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Sunday Overnight Open Thread (3/26/17) Skimpy Edition

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Quotes of The Day

Quote I

Life sometimes gets in the way of writing. Jean M. Auel

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It did this weekend. Sorry for the skimpy ONT.

Quote II

The most expensive hobby a rich man could have is a boat, and the second most expensive hobby he could have is a very old house. Barbara Corcoran

Quote III

Originality consists in thinking for yourself, not in thinking differently from other people.James Fitzjames Stephen

As we approach summer, travel plans take place. If you are into traveling and television This is for you. 10 places to relive your favorite TV shows.


If you spend thousands and thousands on a product, is it yours? Are you free to repair it on your own? According to John Deere, you can't. h/t Hank Curmudgeon

A license agreement John Deere required farmers to sign in October forbids nearly all repair and modification to farming equipment, and prevents farmers from suing for "crop loss, lost profits, loss of goodwill, loss of use of equipment … arising from the performance or non-performance of any aspect of the software." The agreement applies to anyone who turns the key or otherwise uses a John Deere tractor with embedded software. It means that only John Deere dealerships and "authorized" repair shops can work on newer tractors.


Tonight's Science Lesson.


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On this day in 1979, history was made.

In a ceremony at the White House, Egyptian President Anwar el-Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin sign a historic peace agreement, ending three decades of hostilities between Egypt and Israel and establishing diplomatic and commercial ties.


Twitter. Aging. Growing old tweets.


How many books do you have left?

The table below breaks down the number of books you'll have time for if you maintain your current reading habits. Twenty-five-year-old women, for example, have 61 years left to live according to the Social Security Life Expectancy Calculator. Assuming they live that long, average readers in that group have 732 more books to read in their lifetimes.....


Tonic. It goes wonderfully with Gin. But does it go well with coffee?


The ONT Musical Interlude

Speaking of getting old.

March 26, 1965, The Supremes scored their fourth US No.1 single with 'Stop! In The Name Of Love.' The song was included on the Supremes' sixth album, More Hits by The Supremes, and was nominated for the 1966 Grammy Award for Best Contemporary Rock & Roll Group Vocal Performance, losing to 'Flowers on the Wall' by the Statler Brothers. The song was also honored by inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's permanent collection of the 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll. via thisdayinmusic.com

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The story of Rachel Dolezal Or Oingo Boingo Harika Shaniqua or whatever she calls herself these days.

In her heart, she’s still a misunderstood black woman.

Rachel Dolezal — who convincingly passed as an African-American civil rights activist in Spokane, Washington, until her inarguably Caucasian parents outed her as white in 2015 — is now stepping back into the spotlight in all her bottle-bronzed, afro-hair-extensioned glory.


Navy Seals are tough, physically and mentally. How do they become mentally tough?

Mental toughness is a state of mind. Anyone can develop the mental toughness of a solider without being part of the military. Mental toughness is resilience—the ability to stick to something regardless of the obstacles in your way. It’s about being goal oriented, always trying to improve, and being dependable and consistent. I believe mental toughness is fueled by either a dedication to self or a dedication to a higher cause. Ideally it is both.

Masturbation is natural. Sometimes unless you're a Genius Award Winner.

School lunches, ugh except for this Feel Good Story of The Day.


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the Road To Nowhere.

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Notice: Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. Home of the quantity not quality ONT. The Little Blog That Could.

Top 10 commenters:
1 [572 comments] 'TheJamesMadison' [80.35 posts/day]
2 [459 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
3 [397 comments] 'Insomniac - sin valor'
4 [362 comments] 'rickb223'
5 [303 comments] 'Steve and Cold Bear'
6 [302 comments] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [289 comments] ' E Depluribus Unum-'
8 [289 comments] '#neverskankles'
9 [277 comments] 'JackStraw'
10 [267 comments] 'Nevergiveup'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [76 names] 'Steve and Cold Bear' [10.68 unique names/day]
2 [45 names] 'Duncanthrax'
3 [44 names] 'Joe Biden'
4 [43 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
5 [37 names] 'Rick in SK'
6 [36 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [34 names] 'Notorious BFD'
8 [30 names] 'an indifferent penguin'
9 [27 names] 'josephistan'
10 [26 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'


h/t Maetenloch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:02 PM




Comments

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1 here we go...

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 09:55 PM (fZXYQ)

2 foist

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 09:55 PM (b7fwp)

3 first ?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2017 09:55 PM (8HGb7)

4 rats. I coulda just a well read the contents.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 09:56 PM (b7fwp)

5 First?

Posted by: IC at March 26, 2017 09:56 PM (Eu48l)

6 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=13244

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 26, 2017 09:56 PM (vBeA5)

7 MONDAY????

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:56 PM (vRcUp)

8 Dang. No 5 is the new first.

Posted by: IC at March 26, 2017 09:56 PM (Eu48l)

9 There are two Ciceros on the sock puppeteer list!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (DMUuz)

10 >>>The most expensive hobby a rich man could have is a boat, and the second most expensive hobby he could have is a very old house. Barbara Corcoran

I wish I could relate to this quote. Where did you dig up this thing, MH?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (vRcUp)

11 Wooooo! My Lady Bulldawgs are in the Final Four!

Posted by: Country Singer at March 26, 2017 09:59 PM (GUBah)

12 Hey fapsters. For no reason I can identify I'm feeling worse about life than usual. Bleah.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:59 PM (0mRoj)

13 Masturbation is natural. Sometimes unless you're a Genius Award Winner.

Sad that the NY Post has a 'Masturbation' category to file stories under.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:00 PM (TqmC9)

14 " I believe mental toughness is fueled by either a dedication to self or a dedication to a higher cause. Ideally it is both."

I have neither so I guess I'm pretty well fucked.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:00 PM (0mRoj)

15 I continue in my quest to remain drunk all weekend after the shittiest professional week of my life. So far I am exceeding my goals.

I estimate I have another 90 minutes until I have to straighten up and face the new week.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:00 PM (B0O0w)

16
I wish I could relate to this quote. Where did you dig up this thing, MH?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (vRcUp)

I have an old boat and an old home. $$$$ just flies. And I'm not a rich man.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:01 PM (voOPb)

17 Diana Ross was my girlfriend in 1965. No really. We did 'it' every night. Or at least I did. I hope it was good for her to. Wherevever she was.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 10:01 PM (zLDYs)

18 Well top 20 maybe.

Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:02 PM (Jcg9Q)

19 Wooooo! My Lady Bulldawgs are in the Final Four!

You at Westminster? Good luck!

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:02 PM (TqmC9)

20 15 I continue in my quest to remain drunk all weekend after the shittiest professional week of my life. So far I am exceeding my goals.

I estimate I have another 90 minutes until I have to straighten up and face the new week.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:00 PM (B0O0w)

You had to sack a bunch of people, correct? That would definitely suck ass.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:03 PM (0mRoj)

21 The most expensive hobby a rich man could have is a boat, and the second most expensive hobby he could have is a very old house

This Barbara Corcoran woman obviously had no little friends or ladypals with showhorses, ever. Boy, is she ever wrong.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:05 PM (YhV5r)

22 I have neither so I guess I'm pretty well fucked.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:00 PM (0mRoj)

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You have more than you think. Act as if. Fake it until you make it. These are real things I have used, but you have to have a belief in yourself for it to work. You may fake that belief as well.

Things then happen.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:05 PM (B0O0w)

23 Obviously arcs would change shape in a vacuum. The conducting medium (air) changes.

That guy probably needs to be under 24 hour guard for his own protection.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 10:06 PM (oVJmc)

24 That Fodor's link had annoying pop-up ads (the second of which I could not close) and looks like a clickety-clickthrough slide show.

Fair warning . . .

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:06 PM (GsAUU)

25 The most expensive hobby a rich man could have is a boat,

and the second most expensive hobby he could have is masturbating on his boat with a solid gold model of Gwyneth Paltrow's hooha.

Posted by: What Barbara Corcoran Wishes She'd Said at March 26, 2017 10:07 PM (9q7Dl)

26 You have more than you think. Act as if. Fake it until you make it. These are real things I have used, but you have to have a belief in yourself for it to work. You may fake that belief as well.

Things then happen.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:05 PM (B0O0w)

I have a stick-to-it-iveness problem that I've never been able to overcome. Still trying to get past it after all this time.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:07 PM (Jcg9Q)

27 I enjoy my weekly fill of Bar Rescue, but yeah, it also signals that the weekend is over. :-/

The one on now looks really cool, with Taffer helpng bebuild a place in Denham Springs, LA, which got slammed by those floods last summer.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:08 PM (GsAUU)

28 This is what "Skimpy" looks like to a guy like Misanthropic Humanitarian.

...and can you believe he wanted to change that Name?

I think I know why he wanted to change it, but it not only stands for excellence, but the dude was Iconic throughout my small time here.

Once-Again... "Skimpy" means a shitload of content... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:08 PM (6gk0M)

29 i could dig the maserati test drive travel place.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 10:08 PM (fZXYQ)

30 Hey fapsters. For no reason I can identify I'm feeling worse about life than usual. Bleah.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:59 PM (0mRoj)


Hey, I feel that too. Perspective helps; we'll both sleep in beds tonight. I have two dumb hilarious kitties. Gonna have to hit Ye Olde Job Search again tomorrow, but there's food in the house. I'm not in a prison camp, nor am I scraping desiccated soil to try to plant yams.

Things will turn out how they're meant to turn out. If you've got for-real clinical depression or anxiety, nobody's going to be able to talk you out of it, but if it's a rough patch, remember that things were better before and they can be again. Ganbatte.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:08 PM (8nWyX)

31 These Domino's ads with the super-douchey looking version of Ferris Bueller are kinda annoying.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:09 PM (GsAUU)

32 Delurking: just read Warden's article below. What happened to the times that parents told their kids "get out until dinner time, but you better be back then or you're grounded". Mine did. Now my generation is all "Put you're bike helmet on and don't leave my sight". Makes me sad.

Posted by: BigZesty at March 26, 2017 10:09 PM (PM9DX)

33 Wow. I dominated the standings, taking the 6, 6 and 10 spots. What a week it's been, and I owe it all to all of you...

Guess I should focus more on, you know, work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 10:09 PM (JZdsf)

34 Ok, I confess. Took a hot date named Yvonne, we were both 16, to a Supremes concert in Des Moines. We both lost our virginity in the back seat of a 1962 Impala. What a night that was.

Posted by: colfax mingo at March 26, 2017 10:10 PM (PX+kj)

35 Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:05 PM (B0O0w)

How does one fake believing in themself? Especially when you view yourself in the most negative possible way?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:10 PM (0mRoj)

36 Rachel Friggin' Dolezal. I've always wanted to be caucasian, you idiot. I'd like to debate you on which of our delusions is correct.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 10:10 PM (vRcUp)

37 Love the mental toughness. Got to work on this.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:10 PM (tHwdc)

38 You had to sack a bunch of people, correct? That would definitely suck ass.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:03 PM (0mRoj)

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Yep. 12 last week. They needed to go, but it sucks no less to look them in the eye and throw them into UE in this still shitty economy. All at least got 6 months severance though, and a few got a year.

I am now officially "The Crusher" Senior VP at my company.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (B0O0w)

39 In a ceremony at the White House, Egyptian President Anwar el-Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin sign a historic peace agreement, ending three decades of hostilities between Egypt and Israel and establishing diplomatic and commercial ties.

That was an awful deal. Israel really screwed the pooch on that one.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (zc3Db)

40 Now my generation is all "Put you're bike helmet on and don't leave my sight".

I think I've seen strings tied to kids, too. Leashes.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (ZIFyZ)

41 >>>There are two Ciceros on the sock puppeteer list!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (DMUuz)<<<

I!
See!
Two!
Ciceros!

Posted by: Capt. Picard at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (Tstsj)

42 Once-Again... "Skimpy" means a shitload of content... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:08 PM (6gk0M)

Slapweasel, you are far too kind. Instead of prepping ONTs it was working on a boat weekend.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (voOPb)

43 Yvonne, The Supremes and Des Moine. Enchantment like that just doesn't happen much in real life.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 10:12 PM (JZdsf)

44 I have neither so I guess I'm pretty well fucked.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:00 PM (0mRoj)



you have kids. blood children, right? if you feel for them the way i feel for my farm or my cats, much less my stolen kids i took from people who didnt deserve them... you have enough.


we all face darkness and falter. Hate what we see. i truly believe this is why the gospel takes pains to tell us that before Christs Passion, he prayed in the garden and said "Father take this bitter cup from Me." Even the SON OF GOD faced trevails and felt like he couldnt take it. But He slogged on and drained that bitter cup to the dregs, showing us the way.


I am not christian, but that story means something to me. I have faced serious darkness in my life, true horror, to the point where people ask how i take living with the memories and i can only say "I have no choice, so i just do." But i often come back to that story as a huge Teaching moment for me.


just want you to know i too am an insomniac and i want you to know i think of you often and pray for you.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:12 PM (YhV5r)

45 Instead of prepping ONTs it was w**king on a boat weekend.

Fixed for relevance.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (6FqZa)

46 There are two Ciceros on the sock puppeteer list!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (DMUuz)


That's because he was #1 on the IP-puppeteer list, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (zc3Db)

47 Yep. 12 last week. They needed to go, but it sucks no less to look them in the eye and throw them into UE in this still shitty economy. All at least got 6 months severance though, and a few got a year.


All I ever got was my last paycheck and a boot out the door...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (0mRoj)

48 You want to give me a call, Insomniac? Things take-on a different perspective when you figure-out that those who "have it figured-out" don't actually have it "figured-out".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (6gk0M)

49 42: MisHum, you get the photo I sent to pet morons?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2017 10:14 PM (KP5rU)

50 >>>Navy Seals are tough, physically and mentally. How do they become mentally tough?

I've always been a wuss, I'm sure SMFH (where has she been lately) could easily kick my butt.

But the best way to become mentally tough is to take gabapentin (neurontin). You take 900mg of that shit a day, you will be calm, secure. It will tune out all the extraneous shit out of your mind.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 10:14 PM (vRcUp)

51 There are two Ciceros on the sock puppeteer list!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (DMUuz)



Socks within socks, man.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 10:14 PM (JZdsf)

52 Slapweasel, you are far too kind. Instead of prepping ONTs it was working on a boat weekend.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (voOPb)

Did you take a good hard look at the muthafuckin' boat?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:14 PM (0mRoj)

53 Very Kind of Maet to provide the posting stats every Sunday.

Teh Horde appreciates it. Thanks!

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 10:15 PM (1ZlS3)

54 I was riding in my boss's little launch to his small island east of Kristiansand, Norway and saw a skinny black woman on the pier of another island. "Huh" I said. "That looks like Diana Ross." Bjarne said, "Huh. That must be because that IS Diana Ross." She was married to a friend of his, Arne Ness was his name I think. Not going to look it up, one of y'all will correct me if necessary.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 26, 2017 10:15 PM (LheKO)

55 My bil was fired after he refused to overbill the government for work. He got a nice severance and blew the whistle on them. Only crap part is that he and sis will have to move when he finds new work.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 26, 2017 10:15 PM (tnTy7)

56 Chavez, yes the poochie photo came through. Thanks for submitting. Should be up in about 4 weeks. Lots of pet photos have been coming in.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (voOPb)

57 55
My bil was fired after he refused to overbill the government for work.
He got a nice severance and blew the whistle on them. Only crap part is
that he and sis will have to move when he finds new work.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 26, 2017 10:15 PM (tnTy7)























OMG! i just got back from the parents house. AGAIN. mom is not doing so good.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (YhV5r)

58 How does one fake believing in themself? Especially when you view yourself in the most negative possible way?
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:10 PM (0mRoj)

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You know your shit in your area of expertise, right? When you are interviewing for jobs in this area, act as if you are doing them a favor bringing you on. In both Sales and internal promotions, this has not failed me.

Take onsomething that seems impossible. Then, figure out how to do it. Served me well my whole career.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (B0O0w)

59 Hobbies for rich men, ranked in decreasing cost order.

1. Picking the wrong chick
2. Airplane
3. Wooden boat
4. Boat

Posted by: Splunge at March 26, 2017 10:18 PM (iMxBJ)

60 56; Cool.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2017 10:18 PM (KP5rU)

61 In before 100?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 26, 2017 10:18 PM (kP16F)

62 "Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the Road To Nowhere."

WNC has its own "Road to Nowhere". Goes through a tunnel and then ends. Was promised to the inhabitants when the TVA built Fontana reservoir and ran them out of their homes to do it. But they never finished it and never will.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (w+Jhj)

63 Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:12 PM (YhV5r)

You're very kind, thank you. Yes, I have kids. I love them very much. It destroys me that the childhood and life I wanted them to have was rendered impossible.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (0mRoj)

64 Looks like John Deere is begging the competition to carve into market share.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (0tfLf)

65 For those looking for work, I've probably seen a dozen adds today for US Customs and Border protection saying they're hiring.

Hmmm. Wonder why on earth that would be?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (Tstsj)

66 Hello, fappers!

(Except that detective - he's just a dumbass!)

Top 100!


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2017 10:20 PM (8iiMU)

67 Most expensive hobby for a rich man?

Marriage.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 10:20 PM (oVJmc)

68 Owning a professional sports franchise should be somewhere on that list.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:20 PM (HwVbl)

69 All I ever got was my last paycheck and a boot out the door...
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (0mRoj)

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I put my email in my nic. Please get in touch.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:21 PM (B0O0w)

70 ... with a solid gold model of Gwyneth Paltrow's hooha.
Posted by: What Barbara Corcoran Wishes She'd Said at March 26, 2017 10:07 PM


Please, no.

It's bad enough to contemplate chili with carrots. I don't think we can take contemplating cold hooha with carats.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 10:21 PM (DMUuz)

71 Most expensive hobby? I would think cocaine and strippers would be up there.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:22 PM (Tnhbr)

72 There are two Ciceros on the sock puppeteer list!

Posted by: Duncanthrax


I've perpetrated this in the past. It's because we sometimes post from a smartphone and sometimes from our laptops, which have different hashes. Maetenloch's script needs to be modified so as to collate posts with the same usernames, regardless of hashes. I'm not sure what other solution could exist.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 10:22 PM (vRcUp)

73 I made chili tonight. It's cooking on the stove right now. No carrots, however. I'm not a savage.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:22 PM (Tnhbr)

74 Most expensive hobby? I would think cocaine and strippers would be up there.

That's not really a hobby. That's more of a life-calling.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:23 PM (6FqZa)

75 That John Deere story really pisses me off.

I have always had the image of John Deere as good and wholesome and red, white and blue American. Instead, this behavior is petty and greedy and shortsighted.

So, it is red, white and blue American, I guess.

Just not good and wholesome!

Dumbasses. I hope they get right and fly straight.

If not, I hope they get their asses handed to them.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2017 10:23 PM (8iiMU)

76 >>>It's bad enough to contemplate chili with carrots. I don't think we can take contemplating cold hooha with carats.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 10:21 PM (DMUuz)
<<<

*psst* Karats.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM (Tstsj)

77 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (6gk0M)

Perhaps sometime. I appreciate the offer. I also have a weird hangup about talking with people on the phone, so please don't take any standoffishness personally...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

78 This Newsbuster article has an ABC screengrab from the NJ pro-Trump rally, and my question is --

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lfre5aj

Is that a pro or anti protester? If it's a pro Trumper, some Moron has been outed.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM (0rHf9)

79 That's not really a hobby. That's more of a life-calling.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:23 PM (6FqZa)


Some people live to work. Others work to live.

I work to put a stripper through nursing school.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM (Tnhbr)

80 Most expensive hobby?

Ponies! Actually, there's a million of these things. Race cars, owning a restaurant, buying an island that you use once, owning Newsweek... so many things to blow your money on.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (ZIFyZ)

81
You're very kind, thank you. Yes, I have kids. I
love them very much. It destroys me that the childhood and life I
wanted them to have was rendered impossible.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (0mRoj)

they feel that love. i have given a LOT of riding lessons to girls with money and ones without. I have a few times seen spoiled kids want more money for a better horse or more lessons, but i rarely saw a well loved child with enough to eat and poor parents who loved her wish for lots of bullshit crap any more than a rich spoiled kids. usually they are more reasonable. I HAVE BEEN GIVING LESSONS TO UNLOVED AND NEGLECTED RICH KIDS SINCE I WAS EIGHTEEN. Even if parents pretend to love them but dont, the kids know. its very sad when a youngster clings to the friendship of a mean-ass young horsewoman with a potty mouth who "gives lessons like hitler" so desperately because this person is the first person who offered them truth and love.
i am sure your kids wont be those.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (YhV5r)

82 That's not really a hobby. That's more of a life-calling.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:23 PM (6FqZa)

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The rest of the money just gets wasted.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (B0O0w)

83 Hey fapsters. For no reason I can identify I'm feeling worse about life than usual. Bleah.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:59 PM (0mRoj)

Hey man, I'm right there with ya.

I've been accelerating my job search lately, which basically means I'm spending more time in something that shows no results whatsoever. And now I'm spending a week or two on graveyard shift. On the bright side, I have my overtime back, at least for the moment. This staying awake all night though is for the birds.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (Jcg9Q)

84 64; John Deere has a lot of dealers around here. But, in the fields, you see mostly Case/IH. I don't think their bullshit is playing in the real world. Maybe Case is just like JD. I don't know.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (KP5rU)

85 Cirero,

I once was a cute, masculine, guy... still masculine but not longer cute and enjoyed much attention from the XX in the younger years. Then at 22 in a master's program I meet Mrs Mingo in physics 201. Love at first sight and never looked in the rear view mirror. August 13 will be our 47th anniversary. Ever faithful since. Plus, she remains ever sexy, even after 3 children and 7 grandchildren.

Posted by: colfax mingo at March 26, 2017 10:26 PM (PX+kj)

86 I put my email in my nic. Please get in touch.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:21 PM (B0O0w)

---

Don't mind if we do.

Posted by: Spam R Us at March 26, 2017 10:26 PM (sB1y1)

87 "Any human can develop mental toughness by setting goals, pushing oneself a little harder, and working for small victories."

No. No. See your psychiatrist and get meds, and then get drunk every day. That is the only way to power through life.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 10:27 PM (W8bn5)

88 69 All I ever got was my last paycheck and a boot out the door...
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (0mRoj)

=====

I put my email in my nic. Please get in touch.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:21 PM (B0O0w)

Thanks

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

89 "Most expensive hobby? I would think cocaine and strippers would be up there."

You don't even need the strippers if you're on the blow. I was on the road opening for a country star around 1980. One of his sidemen told me, "He's doing a thousand dollars a day, which is just about what he clears a day after all his expenses.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 26, 2017 10:27 PM (3myMJ)

90 Hey man, I'm right there with ya.

I've been accelerating my job search lately, which basically means I'm spending more time in something that shows no results whatsoever. And now I'm spending a week or two on graveyard shift. On the bright side, I have my overtime back, at least for the moment. This staying awake all night though is for the birds.
Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (Jcg9Q)


I've started tentatively looking. I have to start in earnest at the end of April. A few things here, a few overseas. I want to avoid NoVa if at all possible.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:28 PM (Tnhbr)

91 59 Hobbies for rich men, ranked in decreasing cost order.

1. Picking the wrong chick
2. Airplane
3. Wooden boat
4. Boat
Posted by: Splunge at March 26, 2017 10:18 PM (iMxBJ)


--Where does Making America Great Again rank?

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:29 PM (GsAUU)

92 89 "Most expensive hobby? I would think cocaine and strippers would be up there."

You don't even need the strippers if you're on the blow. I was on the road opening for a country star around 1980. One of his sidemen told me, "He's doing a thousand dollars a day, which is just about what he clears a day after all his expenses.
Posted by: Meremortal



Marvin Gaye was a country star?

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 10:29 PM (pY+s4)

93 That's all you do on the farm is modify stuff. Very rarely saw Deere stuff in my area, anyways. Massey Ferguson, Case, New Holland. We still have two little Fords. Had a David Brown. Never a Deere unless it was a little riding mower.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:29 PM (NBHj5)

94 Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (YhV5r)

I hope they won't. It's not the money, it's not having an intact family anymore. I didn't want this for them, and there wasn't a fucking thing I could do to stop it. I don't think I'll ever stop feeling raw about it.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:30 PM (0mRoj)

95 How I wound-up atop the list of posters last week was something that I wasn't ready for.

I know there are people like me who post at a rate, unseen by Man, but...

The only other poster who answers posts at this rate is our resident Top Ten Lister.

I called him "silly" and "soft" last week, but I must apologize to Steve. The guy has heart. A shitload of heart.

I must also chide Bebe's for taking him down so harshly.

Come At Me, Woman.

Yeah... he's always bitching about shit constantly, but he decided to grow a pair and you hated his website of choice.

He pleaded to be forgiven, but there were some 'ettes that would have none of it.

I applaud the dude and his parsing of the content.

Come at me, bra containing overflowing joy.

...no, seriously. Come at me. Faster.

'sbd'Steve, (seriously forgot the three characters), is my buddy and I'll NOT abandon him while he strives to get GAINZ!!!

Mountains of manhood are to be scaled and not cast asunder.

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:30 PM (6gk0M)

96 I want to avoid NoVa if at all possible.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile



Why? Its GREAT here. Traffic congestion, its really expensive, everybody is rude, the subway sucks! Whats not to LOVE!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 10:31 PM (pY+s4)

97 Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 10:29 PM (pY+s4)

Equal opportunity drug, it was everywhere. I was lucky, it just made me nervous and gave me the runs (probably the baby laxative cutter) and I dropped it quick.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 26, 2017 10:31 PM (3myMJ)

98 I cannot believe that a friend told me tonight that she wasn't familiar with Joe Jackson.
That is like saying "Bacon? Never heard of it. What's it taste like?"
I am gobsmacked, to say the least.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (2SERm)

99 "Perhaps sometime. I appreciate the offer. I also have a weird hangup about talking with people on the phone, so please don't take any standoffishness personally..."
-Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

That is not only -not a problem-, but I respect your privacy.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (6gk0M)

100 91 59 Hobbies for rich men, ranked in decreasing cost order.

1. Picking the wrong chick


This hobby is not limited to a particular socioeconomic stratum.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (0mRoj)

101 Why? Its GREAT here. Traffic congestion, its really expensive, everybody is rude, the subway sucks! Whats not to LOVE!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 10:31 PM (pY+s4)


At least in SoCal the weather is nice.

I should try for the intel analyst jobs in the UK or Germany.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (Tnhbr)

102 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:23 PM (6FqZa)

This Breitbart piece reveals a Canadian imam citing one of the hadiths in Arabic; specifically this one --

O Muslim, O servant of Allah, O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.

Back in December. The Religion of Peace and Tolerance strikes again.

http://tinyurl.com/kt5kc2n

The mosque was so proud of it, they posted the video on their website.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (0rHf9)

103 I hope they won't. It's not the money, it's not having an intact family anymore. I didn't want this for them, and there wasn't a fucking thing I could do to stop it. I don't think I'll ever stop feeling raw about it.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:30 PM (0mRoj)

========

You're kids will understand this, even without explanation. Mine did, just using observation.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (B0O0w)

104 Re: boats

What's the old joke? The two happiest days in a man's life are the day when he buys a boat and the day when he sells it.

Posted by: BishopWash at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (YZFbf)

105 Looks like John Deere is begging the competition to carve into market share.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (0tfLf)


Looks like John Deere is running Windows 10 and using MS legal advice.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (0hI48)

106 Joe Jackson, as in "Steppin' Out"-?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (6gk0M)

107 No. No. See your psychiatrist and get meds, and then get drunk every day. That is the only way to power through life.

Yes! This is what works for me!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (qJhUV)

108 Slap, I literally just walked in and saw your 10:30.

Thanks for the shoutout. I *do* disagree that I'm always "bitching about shit constantly," in fact Maetenloch basically taught me to knock that off and I'm trying diligently to follow through.

But still... the kind words are appreciated and I won't dismiss them. I *do* want to spend less time complaining and more time *fixing it.*

I was just going to say, I need to learn this "mental toughness" stuff.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (qazQh)

109 The mosque was so proud of it, they posted the video on their website.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (0rHf9)

--Vibrant!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (GsAUU)

110 Wow. I dominated the standings, taking the 6, 6 and 10 spots. What a week it's been, and I owe it all to all of you...



Guess I should focus more on, you know, work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 10:09 PM (JZdsf)

You're a STAR! You deserve the Platinum membership - with clusters.
Clusters of what, you may ask?
Clusters of fucks to give.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (tHwdc)

111 Re: boats

What's the old joke? The two happiest days in a man's life are the day when he buys a boat and the day when he sells it.
Posted by: BishopWash at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (YZFbf)

My favorite is, "the only thing better than having a boat is having a friend with a boat."

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (GrsIT)

112 I've been accelerating my job search lately, which basically means I'm spending more time in something that shows no results whatsoever. And now I'm spending a week or two on graveyard shift. On the bright side, I have my overtime back, at least for the moment. This staying awake all night though is for the birds.
Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (Jcg9Q)

The job search. The soul-crushing, spirit-destroying job search.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

113 I wonder if the Tesla coil discharge in vacuum is related to the upper atmosphere blue jet and red sprite phenomena.

And if it would be possible to tap into it.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (0hI48)

114 For those looking for work, I've probably seen a dozen adds today for US Customs and Border protection saying they're hiring.

Where, did they say in what capacity?

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (uKRys)

115 Howdy all. Any 'Rons in Louisville?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (smD62)

116 Hmmmm, crab burgers.

Something I would have associated with Sandra Fluke, but they look tasty.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (GsAUU)

117 If I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean.
And if I had a pony,
I couldn't afford both.

Posted by: Honest Lyle Lovett at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (Tnhbr)

118 102: GnuBreed

Diversity is our STRENGTH!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (pY+s4)

119 Obviously arcs would change shape in a vacuum. The conducting medium (air) changes.

That guy probably needs to be under 24 hour guard for his own protection.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 10:06 PM (oVJmc)

I got 16 seconds into it, and punched out. Annoying Paki accent, then he got all shouty. The Paki accent, I can deal with, as long as the owner thereof is speaking respectfully in a nice conversational tone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 10:36 PM (WDdjT)

120 Hoyt Clagwell tractors require constant modification.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 10:36 PM (IqV8l)

121 What's the old joke? The two happiest days in a man's life are the day when he buys a boat and the day when he sells it.
Posted by: BishopWash at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (YZFbf)

=====

Boat:

-Break
-Out
-Another
-Thousand

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (B0O0w)

122 No doubt that detective hums Funkadelic while wanking. My,my,my.

Posted by: Lt. Joe Kenda at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (bc2Lc)

123 Thanks, MisHum for another wonderful ONT!!

Posted by: ibguy at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (vUcdz)

124 I was just going to say, I need to learn this "mental toughness" stuff.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (qazQh)


Same here. It's why I don't post as much here anymore. I think before I start writing, "Is this going to be another 'woe is me' post?" If it is, I don't post it. I don't want to be that guy whose every post is kvetch, kvetch, kvetch.

And by the time I get here, all the witty things I might have written have already been posted by someone else.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (rJUlF)

125 Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch!,
Sorry to hear about your mom.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

126 I like you, qdpsteve. If the past three years hasn't proven it? I don't know what will.

You are silly. You are also comic relief and I am nowhere near your level of proficiency.

I rest while you respond and actually care while providing humor to this blog.

Letterman was "silly". He earned millions.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (6gk0M)

127 **TOP FIVE REASONS I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE ONT**

5. It Simonizes my soul and Turtle Waxes my tumult

4. Duh, the opportunity to post more of these corny top 5 lists (shout-out to MisHum) ;-)

3. Still has this irrational belief that somehow, someway, someday Mila Kunis will join the Horde

2. Complimentary limberger cheese and anchovy paste plates always kindly set out by ace & staff

1. I'm addicted and I can't help myself!!! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (qazQh)

128 *psst* Karats.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM


Yah, technically, but I was going for alliteration, and (I just looked) Merriam-Webster considers it a variant spelling.

LOL on the Capt. Picard comment, BTW.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 10:38 PM (DMUuz)

129 Deuce McAllister!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:38 PM (GsAUU)

130 That is not only -not a problem-, but I respect your privacy.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (6gk0M)

I appreciate that. It's not even really a privacy thing so much as a focal anxiety thing. I used to break out in cold sweats when dialing a number for the first time, regardless of who or what was on the other end.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (0mRoj)

131 I should try for the intel analyst jobs in the UK or Germany.

You have that as an option? Sounds like fun for a while.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (hBig8)

132 Wait until Bebe's gets ahold of me. She's going to sandpaper my dick.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (6gk0M)

133 I've attended Christian churches from time to time, but I can't recall where they preached to go find Jews to kill, much less citing Bible verses or the patristic saints to do it. I must have been dozing during those sermons

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (6FqZa)

134 Btw, the guy and I patched things up.

It's still a bit scary. But...what do ya do? Face your fears, I guess.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (smD62)

135 Roger that, Insomniac.

*over and out*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:40 PM (6gk0M)

136 3. Still has this irrational belief that somehow, someway, someday Mila Kunis will join the Horde.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM


I'm here for you when you're ready.

Posted by: Cora Segal at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (DMUuz)

137 It has been a very good day, and a very bad day.

First:
I made pizza. That is the good day part.

The bad : I'm eating too much.

See?

It is the dichotomy of man, the ying/yang of karma, the everything has consequences. Even doing nothing has consequences.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (p1ZcN)

138
I must have been dozing during those sermons
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo


Like Obama during Reverend Wright's sermons.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (IqV8l)

139 134 Btw, the guy and I patched things up.

It's still a bit scary. But...what do ya do? Face your fears, I guess.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (smD62)


Great news, Pink. I've been reading your story over the weekend. I hope it all works out for the two of you.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (rJUlF)

140 I must have been dozing during those sermons
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (6FqZa)


Try the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (Tnhbr)

141 That is like saying "Bacon? Never heard of it. What's it taste like?"

I am gobsmacked, to say the least.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 10:32 PM (2SERm)

OK, I'm burning with shame. I never claimed to be knowledgeable about music.

Nowadays I regularly watch the 70s music channel on FIOS with artist and song info listed and can't believe how much music I attributed to the wrong artists, back in the day, when I just heard songs on the radio and they were identified in blocks before ad breaks, that I often missed.
Keep in mind, Dalton, that I never had MTV, and a lot of us old-school freaks just knew what we liked.
<Pulls blanket over head and sulks>

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (tHwdc)

142 The job search. The soul-crushing, spirit-destroying job search.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

Yes, the search that requires you have a years' dishwashing experience to get a dishwasher job, or two years' experience to get a job in a warehouse, where fast food places turn you down to your face, etc. etc. etc., and where the average job ad has around 100 or so applicants, even if it's part time.

Yeah that one.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (Jcg9Q)

143 You want to go boating a few times a year? Rent one. Even if you pay $500 per day it is still far cheaper than owning one. And less hassles.

Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (NbRJx)

144 Slap, thanks and I like you too.

And I've learned I don't mind being silly or even being seen as a little bit silly. One of the reasons I realized I had such a hard time as a child and teenager, is that I had *no* sense of humor about myself. I took myself so, so, seriously and I'm sure that turned lots of people off.

There's a great line in the original short story, "Flowers For Algernon": "People like you, if you let them laugh at you. I'm going to have lots of friends where I go." ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (qazQh)

145 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (qazQh)

Shout out, noticed and appreciated.

Thank you Steve.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (voOPb)

146 Wait until Bebe's gets ahold of me. She's going to sandpaper my dick.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (6gk0M)

======

Well, it can feel kinda good until ya really get to it, I guess.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:42 PM (B0O0w)

147 I estimate I have another 90 minutes until I have to straighten up and face the new week.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:00

Be well Flyboy. Just take a glass of water or gaterade stuff to bed and sip on it when you wake up.

Best wishes.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 10:42 PM (o/90i)

148 80 Most expensive hobby?

Ponies! Actually, there's a million of these things. Race cars, owning a restaurant, buying an island that you use once, owning Newsweek... so many things to blow your money on.
Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:25 PM (ZIFyZ)

*******

I would agree with the equus angle. My daughter evented for 12 yrs - coach said was Olympic material and she just needed a $750,000 horse. 1200 lbs termites. Between feed, shoes every 6 weeks, tack and vet expenses - my daughter's horse cost us almost $25,000 in one year just for up keep.

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at March 26, 2017 10:42 PM (osjH4)

149 Looks like John Deere is begging the competition to carve into market share.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (0tfLf)

They have long had a rep for being more expensive than competitive equipment, but worth the difference. If the aggravation factor for the software gets worse, though, maybe the "worth it" goes away.

Question is: are the others doing the same thing?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 10:43 PM (WDdjT)

150 You have that as an option? Sounds like fun for a while.
Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:39 PM (hBig


Possibly. I'd prefer to stay in SoCal since I have better access to my interests (blacksmithing, tango) as well as taking college courses here than trying to do so overseas. On the other hand, I have a very cute friend who lives in Barcelona...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:43 PM (Tnhbr)

151 I got 16 seconds into it, and punched out. Annoying Paki accent, then he got all shouty.

If it's the guy I'm thinking of, you might want to continue watching. He always shocks the hell out of himself accidentally. It's pretty funny.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 10:43 PM (eeTCA)

152 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:33 PM (qazQh)

Keep doing what you need to do to figure shit out, and don't sweat getting static from other people about it.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (0mRoj)

153 For those looking for work, I've probably seen a dozen adds today for US Customs and Border protection saying they're hiring.

Where, did they say in what capacity?


Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (uKRys)

I looked there already. You have to be under 40 for those. I'm not.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (Jcg9Q)

154 "5. It Simonizes my soul and Turtle Waxes my tumult."

See? While that isn't "Stand-Up" funny, it is Horde-Quality Lemonade.

Perhaps you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (6gk0M)

155 114 For those looking for work, I've probably seen a dozen adds today for US Customs and Border protection saying they're hiring.

Where, did they say in what capacity?
Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (uKRys)

--They've had multiple hiring fairs here in EP since Election Day (no coincidence, I'm sure). All of them have been for field agent positions.

If you're interested, they should have active job postings at WorkinTexas.com.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (GsAUU)

156 127 **TOP FIVE REASONS I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE ONT**

5. It Simonizes my soul and Turtle Waxes my tumult
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Shinola at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (DMUuz)

157 I looked there already. You have to be under 40 for those. I'm not.
Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (Jcg9Q


Lie, lie like a rug.
After all it's the government, they lie to us all the time.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (voOPb)

158 LMAO, "It's all fun and games until you're drunk and broke."

Been there, done that.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (GsAUU)

159 Thanks Captain, I super duper appreciate it.

With it being online and long-distance-ish, it makes things, unconventional for sure.

Convention says, with online, you should meet sooner rather than later. But, with the distance...doesn't exactly work.

Convention says first time meeting in person should be a quick coffee date. But, if either of us are driving a significant distance, a quickie date just seems crazy to me.

So...I guess I will just play it by ear.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (smD62)

160 Be well Flyboy. Just take a glass of water or gaterade stuff to bed and sip on it when you wake up.

Best wishes.
Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 10:42 PM (o/90i)

======

Thanks, Farmer.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (B0O0w)

161 Keep in mind, Dalton, that I never had MTV, and a lot of us old-school freaks just knew what we liked.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (tHwdc)


I had this...friend...who would listen to Casey Kasem's countdown every weekend, and would write down the song titles and artists so he'd know what they were. Came in handy later in life at Trivial Pursuit tournaments.

Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (rJUlF)

162 I hope they won't. It's not the money, it's not
having an intact family anymore. I didn't want this for them, and there
wasn't a fucking thing I could do to stop it. I don't think I'll ever
stop feeling raw about it.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:30 PM (0mRoj)


if you love them they will know.


if you dont, they will know, even if you live with them.


I was raised by my gramma and my coaches, mostly. after a bad illness i was moved from the female coach to a Male one that was a retired DI but who was more prestigious and lived closer to my drs and for the first time moved in with my parents full time. I knew my parents didnt love me. I knew Gramma did. I knew my coaches did. Now i am in my fourties and live down the street from that first coach. My parents live an hour away. Stepdad and i have a great relationship now (father is dead since childhood) mom is still strained.


where you live has nothing to do with it. Genuine interest, showing up and guidance show a child who the parent is. As my grandmother lay in the hospital not recognizing anyone, dying... she kept pointing at me and telling the nurses "Thats my baby." She taught me to cook, to sew to be a good sport and love caring for others. My bedroom at that first coach's house still has my stuffed frog on the bed and my Junior competitor show pictures in her tackroom. She always has time for me. She still still helps me break my freak of nature horses when i need her to. Shes 75. Guess who i feel like are my parents?

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (YhV5r)

163 Cora, thanks ;-)

I watched another movie last night, "A League Of Their Own." One of the bits in the movie, that takes place in 1943-44, is that the most talented hitter on the team, is a young woman who is... shall we say... not yuge on the 'looker' list. (The actress looked a bit like Drew Barrymore, although she obviously wasn't.)

Anyway, being on the team brings her personality out and I guess makes her a bit more confident, to the point that a guy falls in love with her while she's belting out a classic blues tune onstage at one of the team's R&R sessions at a local dance joint. She's depicted as the very first member of the women's baseball team that gets married, which made the point: coming out of your shell is what it takes to make it.

I got it. In the past I would have bitched a bit, but no so much any more.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (qazQh)

164 He pleaded to be forgiven, but there were some 'ettes that would have none of it.



I applaud the dude and his parsing of the content.



Come at me, bra containing overflowing joy.



...no, seriously. Come at me. Faster.



'sbd'Steve, (seriously forgot the three characters), is my buddy and I'll NOT abandon him while he strives to get GAINZ!!!



Mountains of manhood are to be scaled and not cast asunder.



-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel





Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:30 PM (6gk0M)

Balls? Absofuckinglutely, a good thing. But don't drink TOO deeply at that well. Balance in all things.
I have only one thing to say in defense of that disagreement - he accused some 'ettes of being feminists: Do.Not.Go.There.

We've made up since. Right, qdpsteve?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (tHwdc)

165 made chili tonight. It's cooking on the stove right now. No carrots, however. I'm not a savage.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Put some corn in there.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (+lVUW)

166 Yez, Slap @ 106.
THAT Joe Jackson. The one that is #2 & #3 on my "desert island " album list.
Meh. She's redeemed herself.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 10:46 PM (2SERm)

167 Lie, lie like a rug.
After all it's the government, they lie to us all the time.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (voOPb)

Generally speaking, I suck at lying, and I don't look like your average illegal, so I'd probably get busted.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:46 PM (Jcg9Q)

168 >>>Where, did they say in what capacity?


Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:35 PM (uKRys)<<<

Wasn't able to actually catch that, but the range of agents they were showing in the commercials looked to be doing everything from security at airports, patrols on the border, and I think they even showed some getting onto/off of a waiting helicopter. You know, the fun stuff.

Do remember them advising to apply online.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 10:46 PM (Tstsj)

169 Thanks for all the kind words, everyone. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:47 PM (qazQh)

170 qdpsteve, FWIW, I like your comments!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:47 PM (GsAUU)

171 So...I guess I will just play it by ear.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (smD62)


It's probably the best way to handle it, I guess. (I make no claim to being an expert on relationships.)

I can relate to the distance thing. I'm seeing someone who had to move 50 miles away due to her job. It's not a huge distance compared to some, but knowing she's that much farther away...well, it's something that I have to handle, I suppose.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (rJUlF)

172 well, as that fightinest sailor man would say, I gotsk to get up early but I like to try and look on the bright side of things --
three words:
Trump, not Hillary.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (b7fwp)

173 For those looking for work, I've probably seen a dozen adds today for US Customs and Border protection saying they're hiring.

Sign of the times. In '82, the Detroit Free Press had quarter page ads placed by the CIA advertising Job openings to be a CIA agent.

I actually wrangled an interview, but flunked (rather badly) the psych interview.

True Story.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (p1ZcN)

174 a big improvement over the past?

age

watching "feud" about the making of "whatever happened to baby jane", those old, over the hill broads davis & crawford were just 54 & 56 years old. and they really were old back then.

back then, 65 was retirement, 70 was old age and if you made it, infirmity.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (WTSFk)

175 re the Deere thingy -- This is not a new trick. Several auto makers have tried to push the same thing, and Apple and Microsoft. Basically, the claim is that the software running the gear is 'leased', never 'owned'. Oh, some textbook publishers have made the same claim about their books.

At some point the SC will have to rule on this.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (0rHf9)

176 Yes, the search that requires you have a years' dishwashing experience to get a dishwasher job, or two years' experience to get a job in a warehouse, where fast food places turn you down to your face, etc. etc. etc., and where the average job ad has around 100 or so applicants, even if it's part time.

Yeah that one.
Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (Jcg9Q)


Try putting military experience and >10 years' programming and sysadmin work on the application for a restaurant or retail or hotel job.

Hahaha just kidding, don't do that because you will never get a callback.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (8nWyX)

177 Miley, right.

I got it: don't use the "F" word (feminist), and only share about A Voice For Men *very sparingly* or maybe best not to share it at all. Which is cool, I'm not obsessed with that site.

No problem, I can live with those rules.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (qazQh)

178 165
made chili tonight. It's cooking on the stove right now. No carrots, however. I'm not a savage.

Posted by: Colorado Alex

Put some corn in there.



Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (+lVUW)

I did BOTH one time, just to see if Grimmy would eat it

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (YhV5r)

179 "Balls? Absofuckinglutely, a good thing. But don't drink TOO deeply at that well. Balance in all things.
I have only one thing to say in defense of that disagreement - he accused some 'ettes of being feminists: Do.Not.Go.There.

We've made up since. Right, qdpsteve?
"
-Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (tHwdc)

*sigh*

How many times does a guy have to apologize to "Grow a Pair?"

He already apologized on numerous occasions.

Bring that shit to ME, not qdpsteve.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (6gk0M)

180 Oh and thanks too Miley!

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (qazQh)

181 logprof, thanks!

BTW everyone, gonna try and thank you all personally tonight for the support. If I forget you, please accept this apology in advance and know that you are appreciated as well. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:50 PM (qazQh)

182 I looked there already. You have to be under 40 for those. I'm not.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:44 PM (Jcg9Q)

Well, that leaves me out.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:50 PM (uKRys)

183 ... i know people in their 70's & 80's who are independent and active. unheard of back then.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 10:50 PM (WTSFk)

184 qdpsteve,

Enjoy your posts, man. Nothing wrong with silly.

There's a quote from Doctor Who that goes something like, "There's no point in being a grownup if you can't be a little childish sometimes." I've always thought that means it's OK to be silly, but put on the "serious" hat when it's needed.



Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 10:51 PM (rJUlF)

185 Apparently there's a thriving black market for John Deere 'parts', specifically software from Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 10:51 PM (DMUuz)

186 Wow. I dominated the standings, taking the 6, 6 and 10 spots. What a week it's been, and I owe it all to all of you...

Guy would finish first and third in a five-man jackoff contest.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 10:51 PM (5p/Pr)

187 Possibly. I'd prefer to stay in SoCal since I have
better access to my interests (blacksmithing, tango) as well as taking
college courses here than trying to do so overseas. On the other hand, I
have a very cute friend who lives in Barcelona...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:43 PM (Tnhbr)


Now, they dance the tango in Argentina, and if you don't like the Argies, you can go to Paraguay or Uruguay instead, since they don't like them either.


Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:51 PM (0hI48)

188 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (6gk0M)

Let's move on Slap. No need to rehash things from almost a week ago.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 10:52 PM (voOPb)

189 Re the job search front:

I've actually been getting some responses from job cover letters/resumes on Craigslist lately, after *years* of no responses from anyone there, ever.

Who knows, maybe the SoCal economy is *finally* getting better?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:52 PM (qazQh)

190 Yeah... I fell asleep to Joe Jackson on plenty of occasions. "Is she really going out with him?" was a great song, as well.

I fell asleep thinking that the hot girls really wanted to go out with me, instead.

Because I was a spelling-geek who played soccer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:52 PM (6gk0M)

191 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 10:52 PM (IcT7t)

192 CW, thanks! :-)

Insomniac, thanks! :-)

MisHum, thanks! :-)

Yes I'm addicted to Smileys!!!! :-) :-) :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (qazQh)

193
Now, they dance the tango in Argentina, and if you don't like the Argies, you can go to Paraguay or Uruguay instead, since they don't like them either.


Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:51 PM (0hI4


There's a decent Argentine tango community in Europe. I went to a festival in Sitges back in 2011. It was full of Russians.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (Tnhbr)

194 The problem is things are getting really intense, and...just really intense.

We were up till 4:30 am this morning, which pretty much destroyed me the rest of the day. I told him no more of that for a while.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (smD62)

195 oh, and I almost forgot, Keith Olbermann is a twat.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (b7fwp)

196 95 Yup.
The key to my successful job search in this economy was to lie and say I wasn't white
Yes really.

Posted by: MAx at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (/RZxG)

197 Evenin' everyone.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 10:52 PM (IcT7t)

======

Evening, Blanco.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (B0O0w)

198
Apparently there's a thriving black market for John Deere 'parts', specifically software from Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Putin hacks your tractor!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (IqV8l)

199 2. Complimentary limberger cheese and anchovy paste plates always kindly set out by ace & staff

What, no pickled herring?My understanding from old Germans was that pickled herring was supposed to go with limberger cheese.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (+lVUW)

200 And I haven't seen Bebe's for some time so I'm wondering what's going on there but I figure she'll be back when she feels like it. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (qazQh)

201 I actually wrangled an interview, but flunked (rather badly) the psych interview.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (p1ZcN)


Absolute favorite question on the submarine psych test:

I sometimes like to pretend that I am dead and no one can see or hear me
[ ] Strongly agree
[ ] Agree
[ ] Neither agree nor disagree
[ ] Disagree
[ ] Strongly disagree

...dafuq?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (8nWyX)

202 mmm nerdygirl, pickled herring...

In fairness, anything and everything tastes better pickled.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:55 PM (qazQh)

203 Putin hacks your tractor!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (IqV8l)


In Putin's Russia, tractor hacks YOU!

Hey, you were all thinking it...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 10:55 PM (rJUlF)

204 Howdy.


That road to nowhere reminds me of a runaway truck ramp near Slick Rock, CO. Coming down into the canyon, the road is about a 7-8% grade and fairly windy (twisty-windy, not blowy-windy). There is a runaway truck ramp and from the highway that goes off toward the canyon, and you cannot see anything beyond the end of the truck ramp (no more hillside, just blue sky).

I always wondered if it worked like a ski jump and the canyon floor below had a large pile of formerly runaway trucks at the bottom.

Missus Muldoon and I call it the Runaway Truck Ramp to Nowhere

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 10:55 PM (wPiJc)

205 hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM

It's all a head game, man. All of it.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:55 PM (p1ZcN)

206 196
95 Yup.

The key to my successful job search in this economy was to lie and say I wasn't white

Yes really.

Posted by: MAx at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (/RZxG)

How does that work at the in person interview?

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:55 PM (uKRys)

207 Up at 4:00 this morning, a busy day and no nap. Turning in. Evening, Horde.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 10:56 PM (5p/Pr)

208 Back to the salt mines tomorrow.

Have a good night, y'all!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 10:56 PM (GsAUU)

209 Roger that, Misanthropic.

I remember the "Peace Agreement" between el-Sadat and Begin. My Father was hopeful about that because Reagan was coming into office.

https://tinyurl.com/omlrgfv

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:57 PM (6gk0M)

210 G'Night, Logprof!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:57 PM (6gk0M)

211 Hey there, Flyboy.

Since I know nothing else about you, how goes the job, x weeks in?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (IcT7t)

212 (otherwise, "feud " is nigh unwatchable. after a promising start it's script is wholly didactic, pedantic and a feminist screed.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (WTSFk)

213 >>>I sometimes like to pretend that I am dead and no one can see or hear me

[ ] Strongly agree

[ ] Agree

[ ] Neither agree nor disagree

[ ] Disagree

[ ] Strongly disagree



...dafuq?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (8nWyX)<<<


Well, that's a stupid question. Obviously it's strongly disagree.
What 'tard sometimes pretends they're dead. You ALWAYS pretend you're dead, and that no one can see or hear you.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (Tstsj)

214
In Putin's Russia, tractor hacks YOU!

Anybody remember the automobile eating combines in Prime Cut?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069121

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (IqV8l)

215 189 CDC is hiring psych techs all day long and waiting for your application
Calling emasculating ballbusters telling you to grow a pair and control mens' speech "feminists" seems like not too much of a stretch

Posted by: MAx at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (/RZxG)

216 Slap, also, thanks again.

Don't have a newsletter but I *have* actually thought about trying to put together something comedy on either video, or maybe even trying stand-up.

The Comedy Store *still* has amateur nights and at this stage in my life I'm not so afraid anymore. It's on my list to get up there and try something sometime sooner rather than later.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (qazQh)

217 Anything that eats, or burns fuel is an expensive hobby. I used to think cars were expensive. Harleys make cars look frigging reasonable.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (aMlLZ)

218 Convention says, with online, you should meet sooner rather than later. But, with the distance...doesn't exactly work.



Convention says first time meeting in person should be a quick
coffee date. But, if either of us are driving a significant distance, a
quickie date just seems crazy to me.



So...I guess I will just play it by ear.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (smD62)

Rules and convention are meant to be broken. I used to be in a breakneck hurry. No longer. Well, for obvious reasons, now.
If there's someone who really, really resonates with you, like uncannily well, and they're at a distance that would require an overnight or more, then you need to decide how strong this resonance is, and whether or not it's worth keeping on a back burner while events play out. Time is precious, but finding the right mate is priceless.
There's a lot to be said for becoming friends first. This CAN happen online. And then there's less chance of bf-gf game playing, I think. That shit is just awful. And unforgiveable if you're a grownup.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:59 PM (tHwdc)

219 Absolute favorite question on the submarine psych test:

I sometimes like to pretend that I am dead and no one can see or hear me

...dafuq?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM


Designed to help determine if you were predisposed to stand watches in the aft machinery compartment.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 10:59 PM (DMUuz)

220 I made the top 10.

Woo hoo.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 10:59 PM (vsYKI)

221 59 Hobbies for rich men, ranked in decreasing cost order.

1. Picking the wrong chick
2. Airplane
3. Wooden boat
4. Boat
Posted by: Splunge at March 26, 2017 10:18 PM (iMxBJ)


A wise man once said, "If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it, don't buy it."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (SRKgf)

222 >>The key to my successful job search in this economy was to lie and say I wasn't white


Yes really.



Posted by: MAx at March 26, 2017 10:53 PM (/RZxG)

How does that work at the in person interview?


Posted by: Infidel

Not bad if your loudmouth parents don't out you.

Posted by: Talcum X at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (/Nite)

223 If I bought a $30,000 tractor and wasn't allowed to service it, I'd probably break up with the tractor company.


I'd write them a Deere John letter.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (wPiJc)

224 That John Deere tractor story is a little incorrect. John Deere doesn't want to sell the computer program to repair the tractors.
One of the dealers gave us the computer program, we repair our own tractors. We also make modifications to them and the dealer knows we do.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (u8Ywb)

225 Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (YhV5r)

I'm sorry it was such a hard road, but it's good you had people who loved you.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (0mRoj)

226 "The most expensive hobby a rich man could have is a boat, and the second most expensive hobby he could have is a very old house. Barbara Corcoran"

I have a friend who lives in a Victorian farmhouse. Lovely place, but what a money pit. It would be worse if her husband wasn't handy.

Posted by: Donna, tan now gone but with &&&&&&& to burn and so there at March 26, 2017 11:01 PM (P8951)

227 204 Missus Muldoon and I call it the Runaway Truck Ramp to Nowhere

Posted by: Muldoon


According to my truck driving cousin, they use progressively deeper gravel on those ramps so the truck's energy is absorbed before the end is reached.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 11:01 PM (0rHf9)

228 Do it, qdpsteve.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:01 PM (6gk0M)

229 A wise man once said, "If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it, don't buy it."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (SRKgf)


A shitload of truth there.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 11:01 PM (aMlLZ)

230 Third most expensive hobby a rich man can have:

Jerry Hall.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 11:01 PM (qazQh)

231 209 Roger that, Misanthropic.

I remember the "Peace Agreement" between el-Sadat and Begin. My Father was hopeful about that because Reagan was coming into office.

https://tinyurl.com/omlrgfv
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:57 PM (6gk0M)

My lawn.....get off it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (cm1Bl)

232 I cannot believe that a friend told me tonight that she wasn't familiar with Joe Jackson.

If you are not aware of it, Google Shatner Common People.

You will know why.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (HV1LS)

233 223 If I bought a $30,000 tractor and wasn't allowed to service it, I'd probably break up with the tractor company.


I'd write them a Deere John letter.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (wPiJc)

Nice one.

If you can buy a new John Deere tractor for 30,000 let me know.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (u8Ywb)

234 Even without being online at home for Lent, I still managed to make the Top 10 sock puppeteers list.

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (ANIFC)

235 229 A wise man once said, "If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it, don't buy it."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 11:00 PM (SRKgf)


A shitload of truth there.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 11:01 PM (aMlLZ)

So, where do they rent sheep in the middle east?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (cm1Bl)

236 @218

Thanks Miley, for being the voice of reason.

I am a follower of rules, to a fault.

So, it's tough when what "is supposed" to happen and what logically should happen are sort of at war with each other.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM (smD62)

237 Someone needs to warn Anna Puma about her obsession with Asian Catgirls.

When there is a predator, a prey will be found.
*cue ominous music*

https://youtu.be/PtHugtXVWlI

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM (0hI48)

238 Well, that's a stupid question. Obviously it's strongly disagree.

What 'tard sometimes pretends they're dead. You ALWAYS pretend you're dead, and that no one can see or hear you.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (Tstsj)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAdlZ2F-fs8

Posted by: The Pretendin' Hat at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM (vBeA5)

239 So, where do they rent sheep in the middle east?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (cm1Bl)



Mo's bride hut?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM (aMlLZ)

240 201
Absolute favorite question on the submarine psych test:

I sometimes like to pretend that I am dead and no one can see or hear me
[ ] Strongly agree
[ ] Agree
[ ] Neither agree nor disagree
[ ] Disagree
[ ] Strongly disagree

...dafuq?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (8nWyX)


I wonder if "strongly agree" might be the preferred answer, since submarines like to be as invisible as possible.

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (sdi6R)

241 Designed to help determine if you were predisposed to stand watches in the aft machinery compartment.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 10:59 PM (DMUuz)


*dolphin fistbump*

Though a better question to test for nukes would be "I sometimesalways do my roving watches with my junk hanging out of my coveralls and my flashlight shining through the 'sack-o-lantern'".

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (8nWyX)

242 165 made chili tonight. It's cooking on the stove right now. No carrots, however. I'm not a savage.
Posted by: Colorado Alex
Put some corn in there.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (+lVUW)

Blasphemy upon blasphemy!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (0mRoj)

243 "My lawn.....get off it."
-Posted by: tcn in AK at March 26, 2017 11:02 PM (cm1Bl)

Your ellipses contain too many periods.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (6gk0M)

244 I sometimes like to pretend that I am dead and no one can see or hear me
[ ] Strongly agree
[ ] Agree
[ ] Neither agree nor disagree
[ ] Disagree
[ ] Strongly disagree

...dafuq?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM (8nWyX)

buzzion strongly agrees!

Posted by: Donna, tan now gone but with &&&&&&& to burn and so there at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (P8951)

245 So, where do they rent sheep in the middle east?
Posted by: tcn in AK


Our portfolio is diversified like you wouldn't believe!

Posted by: Enterprise Rent-a-Sheep Riyadh at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (qazQh)

246 We baaaa harder.

Posted by: Avis Rent-A-Sheep UAE at March 26, 2017 11:05 PM (qazQh)

247 233: Don't tractors of a size you need for working over $100,000?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2017 11:05 PM (KP5rU)

248 Just watched Demolition Man because I have not seen it unedited since probably I saw it in the theater.

Anyway, one line I had forgotten about, they are about to go underground to get Simon Phoenix, Sandra Bullock says "Let's blow this guy!"

Heh

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 11:05 PM (HV1LS)

249 But the best way to become mentally tough is to take gabapentin (neurontin). You take 900mg of that shit a day, you will be calm, secure. It will tune out all the extraneous shit out of your mind.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 10:14 PM (vRcUp)


Working on it. I'm somewhere between 300 and 600 mg a day now. Gonna tell the doc to up the dose next time I see him.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 26, 2017 11:05 PM (jKUeC)

250 Since I know nothing else about you, how goes the job, x weeks in?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 10:58 PM (IcT7t)

=====

Well, the job came with the necessity to whack 12 people. So, sucks.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 11:06 PM (B0O0w)

251 219 Absolute favorite question on the submarine psych test:

I sometimes like to pretend that I am dead and no one can see or hear me

...dafuq?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:54 PM

I don't have to pretend to be dead to be invisible.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:06 PM (0mRoj)

252 175 re the Deere thingy -- This is not a new trick. Several auto makers have tried to push the same thing, and Apple and Microsoft. Basically, the claim is that the software running the gear is 'leased', never 'owned'. Oh, some textbook publishers have made the same claim about their books.

At some point the SC will have to rule on this.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 10:48 PM (0rHf9)

____

Lots of things aren't sold as outcomes. For example you don't buy a jet engine, but the number of hours that jet engine can fly. So you're not buying or even leasing the product itself.

The concept of buying/selling and ownership is getting turned upside down all over the place.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 11:06 PM (vsYKI)

253 Tinkled Pinkk,

I suggest 6 in the center mass 38 spl +p or 357 mag. Problem solved. Spine fragments on the back side score extra points..

Posted by: colfax mingo at March 26, 2017 11:06 PM (PX+kj)

254 * sold as outcomes

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 11:06 PM (vsYKI)

255 Though a better question to test for nukes would be "I sometimesalways do my roving watches with my junk hanging out of my coveralls and my flashlight shining through the 'sack-o-lantern'".
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (8nWyX)

LMAO

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:06 PM (0mRoj)

256 My answer to that snarky response to tcn would be...

"If you want to see what a bunch of built-up periods does to the average male, I suggest you taunt me further".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:07 PM (6gk0M)

257 @253

I'm sorry, what?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:07 PM (smD62)

258 You're welcome, tcn.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:07 PM (6gk0M)

259 >>>So, where do they rent sheep in the middle east?

Posted by: tcn in AK<<<



Red Baaax "vending machines".

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at March 26, 2017 11:08 PM (Tstsj)

260 "Mo's bride hut?"
-Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM (aMlLZ)

Shaven and pre-veiled? $150.00, Out The Door.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:09 PM (6gk0M)

261 Insty had something on the tractor deal - TN was passing some "Right to Repair" law.

I think out there is some legal junk that makes it a crime to break user agreements, and they start putting user agreements on equipment, you can't repair or modify, so doing so, you are breaking the law.

I mean, I get it, stuff that is now so super software driven, and you jailbreak it and run new firmware, you aren't running what they sold you. I can see how it could be warranty voiding, criminal though?

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 11:09 PM (HV1LS)

262 247 233: Don't tractors of a size you need for working over $100,000?
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2017 11:05 PM (KP5rU)

Some of them are 80,000 some of them are 235,000. They are not cheap.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:09 PM (u8Ywb)

263 We're #2. We try harder.

Posted by: Ovis Sheep Rental at March 26, 2017 11:09 PM (JZdsf)

264 And that's why I don't hang out on the ONT much these days.


Later, all.

Endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 11:10 PM (wPiJc)

265 There's a lot to be said for becoming friends first. This CAN happen online.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 10:59 PM (tHwdc)


I'm proof of that...well, sort of. Met my current lady friend in person at first, but we spent a lot of time talking online through FB and texts because of our work schedules. We learned a lot about each other that way, and we became friends before we began really dating.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 11:10 PM (rJUlF)

266 Thanks Miley, for being the voice of reason.



I am a follower of rules, to a fault.



So, it's tough when what "is supposed" to happen and what logically should happen are sort of at war with each other.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM (smD62)

I see no reason why establishing what each other's values are ahead of time should take precedence above the "chemistry" that gets us involved with cray-cray and drama and assorted b.s. Yes, chemistry is important, but if the brain is the biggest sex organ, shouldn't you be attracted first to who a person IS more than what they may look like? And yes, it's OK to exchange photos.


But I think we all need to stop giving so much weight to the superficial. Looks fade, and if all goes well you'll become decrepit together. You love the person, not so much their appearance. I've found that the one you love becomes beautiful to YOU, and unless you're shopping for a trophy to impress others, what YOU think is most important.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:10 PM (tHwdc)

267 264 And that's why I don't hang out on the ONT much these days.


Later, all.

Endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 11:10 PM (wPiJc)

It was the corn in the chili suggestion, wasn't it?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:11 PM (0mRoj)

268 You want to go boating a few times a year? Rent one. Even if you pay $500 per day it is still far cheaper than owning one. And less hassles.

Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (NbRJx)

From time to time, I have given some thought to cashing out some retirement money, and buying an old classic motor yacht in the Fall, on the B.C. coast. Thirty, thirty-five footer, fiberglass, not wood. Pay for moorage or dry storage over the winter, and work on fixing up the little things. Come Spring, use it intensively as much as possible, for the entire summer. Pull it from the water next Fall, do any required service, and sell it the following Spring.

Thing is, you buy a boat that's already fully depreciated, you use it intensively for a boating season, and sell it at the onset of the next season.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (WDdjT)

269 Well, the job came with the necessity to whack 12 people. So, sucks.

Could be worse. My company sold a chunk of itself. Bunch of people transferred with the sale, bennies and time in service "intact". Day one at the new place and a bunch of them got whacked. Glad I'm not the guy that had to tell them, "Welcome aboard, now get your shit and get out."

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (IcT7t)

270 261 Insty had something on the tractor deal - TN was passing some "Right to Repair" law.

I think out there is some legal junk that makes it a crime to break user agreements, and they start putting user agreements on equipment, you can't repair or modify, so doing so, you are breaking the law.

I mean, I get it, stuff that is now so super software driven, and you jailbreak it and run new firmware, you aren't running what they sold you. I can see how it could be warranty voiding, criminal though?

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 11:09 PM (HV1LS)

The competitor dealer out of the area is the one that gave us the software. Maybe they were trying to get more business from us.

We have a lot of tractors.

I don't think they'd give it to the guy with one tractor.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (u8Ywb)

271 This Barbara Corcoran woman obviously had no little friends or ladypals with showhorses, ever. Boy, is she ever wrong.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:05 PM (YhV5r)



IIRC, neither she nor her ladyfriends would have a clue the cost of showhorsing.

Posted by: gNewt at March 26, 2017 11:13 PM (6oxBO)

272 My parents forbid Oreos & only let us have chocolate thumbprint cookies.

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at March 26, 2017 11:13 PM (bc2Lc)

273 >> A wise man once said


Fear the Moonless Night.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:14 PM (T1Co2)

274 268 You want to go boating a few times a year? Rent one. Even if you pay $500 per day it is still far cheaper than owning one. And less hassles.

Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2017 10:41 PM (NbRJx)

From time to time, I have given some thought to cashing out some retirement money, and buying an old classic motor yacht in the Fall, on the B.C. coast. Thirty, thirty-five footer, fiberglass, not wood. Pay for moorage or dry storage over the winter, and work on fixing up the little things. Come Spring, use it intensively as much as possible, for the entire summer. Pull it from the water next Fall, do any required service, and sell it the following Spring.

Thing is, you buy a boat that's already fully depreciated, you use it intensively for a boating season, and sell it at the onset of the next season.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (WDdjT)

This also applies to vacation homes. My husband wants a condo in Hawaii. My friend has one in Wailea Maui (her dad gave it to her). She told me don't buy one, rent. She has problems with upkeep being so far away.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:14 PM (u8Ywb)

275 A Voice For Men is a net positive for Men, Boys, and Western Civilization. This was an issue because qdsteve linked to it? Unreal *double face palm*

This is where the documentary, The Red Pill, where feminist Cassie Jaye investigates Mens and Boys rights movements. 9.1 on IMDB gets plugged again. 3.99 rental on Amazon for a week. Watch it with family and as many friends as you can.

qdsteve- keep up the positivity and red pilling yourself and others. Keep going strong and never give up. Don't EVER let a woman dictate and attempt to dominate you and your life into servitude.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 11:14 PM (1ZlS3)

276 I am a follower of rules, to a fault.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:03 PM


Rules are made by men to be broken by men.

;-)

Or borrow Outback's slogan, "No rules, just right".

Don't worry about it, just do what you know is right. You do know it. Trust me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 11:16 PM (DMUuz)

277 @265

Sadly, I think the friends ship has sailed. Either we meet and see where things go, or we will sort of fade apart at some point. I mean, we ARE friends, are not lacking for stuff to talk about.

@266

I'm not picky when it comes to looks, so as you said, for me, it will be about the chemistry. Will it be there in person? We have shared tons of pics, so I'm perfectly comfortable when it comes to that part of it.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:16 PM (smD62)

278 Re: the John Deere story...

Lexmark has a similar thing going with their printer cartridges. Simply by opening the package, you agree never to resell or reuse the empty cartridge. You can't sell it to a refiller or refill it yourself. A reseller has taken them to court, and it's now before SCOUTS.

Story here.

http://tinyurl.com/m8px7e3

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 26, 2017 11:16 PM (rJUlF)

279 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (u8Ywb)

My late father in law was a farmer and owned several JD tractors. He was Jack of all trades and master of them as well. There wasn't anything he couldn't repair and/or build The computer programs in the JDs would have made him switch brand

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 11:16 PM (voOPb)

280 Barbara Ann Corcoran is an American businesswoman, investor, speaker, consultant, syndicated columnist, author, and television personality. As a television personality, she is a "Shark" investor on ABC's Shark Tank.

Sounds like another Trump. She could be president one day, if she had thought about it sooner.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 11:17 PM (p1ZcN)

281 Today I watched a three-part Australian documentary about the history of airships. Here is the link to part 1, and parts 2 and 3 should be in the sidebar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDWmh0iX7bU

Tying into the last thread, it seems like people had a higher tolerance for risk in times past compared to today.

I mean, after the first half dozen times airships were destroyed by ordinary thunderstorms, you'd think someone would have gotten a clue.

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2017 11:17 PM (sdi6R)

282
264 And that's why I don't hang out on the ONT much these days.


Later, all.

Endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 11:10 PM (wPiJc)

I hope I didn't say something that upset you.

I always enjoy your posts. You are very witty.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:17 PM (u8Ywb)

283 Are you just a "kid" who should be avoiding lawns, Tickled Pink?

Because I have some advice for you and it mirrors Miley's quite well.

And I'm 45, so I'm no Spring Chicken looking for "tail".

If a guy doesn't want to talk to your Father, he isn't interested in Long-Haul Trucking, but short-term fucking.

I rhymed ^right there^ because I'm pretty good at rhyming.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:18 PM (6gk0M)

284 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11

Hi CaliGirl,
what were you saying earlier about pedophilia? I told Jules and she wanted to know more but I couldn't find it. She saw some nasty stuff and is
wondering about the Pizzagate stuff I saw here nd she dismissed earlier.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 11:18 PM (o/90i)

285
But I think we all need to stop giving so much
weight to the superficial. Looks fade, and if all goes well you'll
become decrepit together. You love the person, not so much their
appearance. I've found that the one you love becomes beautiful to YOU,
and unless you're shopping for a trophy to impress others, what YOU
think is most important.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:10 PM (tHwdc)

At the feel good story of the day, there is a link of an older couple in a dancing competition that will warm even the blackest heart, like mine,

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 11:19 PM (uKRys)

286 The tractor thing sounds like a possible antitrust law violation.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:19 PM (0mRoj)

287 279 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (u8Ywb)

My late father in law was a farmer and owned several JD tractors. He was Jack of all trades and master of them as well. There wasn't anything he couldn't repair and/or build The computer programs in the JDs would have made him switch brand
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 11:16 PM (voOPb)

I don't know if the other brands have the computer issue as well. We only have John Deer and some old SAM E tractors.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:20 PM (u8Ywb)

288 I am now officially "The Crusher" Senior VP at my company.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 10:11 PM (B0O0w)


We called those guys 'The Hatchet Men'. Every company has one. Some love the work, though.

Posted by: RickZ at March 26, 2017 11:21 PM (hkdnQ)

289 284 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11

Hi CaliGirl,
what were you saying earlier about pedophilia? I told Jules and she wanted to know more but I couldn't find it. She saw some nasty stuff and is
wondering about the Pizzagate stuff I saw here nd she dismissed earlier.
Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 11:18 PM (o/90i)

I don't think that was me. There's another poster with the nic California Girl. It was probably her.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 26, 2017 11:21 PM (u8Ywb)

290 Anyway, being on the team brings her personality out and I guess makes her a bit more confident, to the point that a guy falls in love with her while she's belting out a classic blues tune onstage at one of the team's R&R sessions at a local dance joint. She's depicted as the very first member of the women's baseball team that gets married, which made the point: coming out of your shell is what it takes to make it.

I got it. In the past I would have bitched a bit, but no so much any more.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (qazQh)

Steve, you might want to check out this little-known Canadian movie, "Bye Bye Blues". Exteriors were shot in the little near-ghost town of Rowley, Alberta, only about 25 miles from stately Peon Manor. Here is a clip from it on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g7EQI0xhvc

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:22 PM (WDdjT)

291 > love the person, not so much their appearance.

'xzac'ly!

Size of her tits don' matter as much as if she swallows, y'see?

Bartender, 'nother round for the house!!!

Posted by: crude old moron, drunk 'n horny at March 26, 2017 11:23 PM (PjWy4)

292 >> She saw some nasty stuff and is
wondering about the Pizzagate stuff


It's a bunch of nonsense made up from whole cloth, apparently.

And now I want a slice of Pepperoni.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:23 PM (T1Co2)

293 If it has tits or tyres, one is bound to have problems with it...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 26, 2017 11:24 PM (kP16F)

294 @283

Whoa, not sure where that came from.

He hasn't said anything about my parents, nor have I asked it of him.

He has assured me he will take everything at my pace.

I just know personally, how this will probably go. I mean, they aren't crazy about the online thing as it is. So, if I were to introduce the model guy, a Catholic Rhodes scholar, Harvard (Notre Dame undergrad of course) educated philanthropist, if I told them it was an online thing....they would be hesitant. A guy a decade older? It would be tough.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:24 PM (smD62)

295 Boats don't have to be expensive. I owned a boat for several years and spent on average under $1K a year to maintain it. And that included reguar maintenance, getting it shrink wrapped and the few things that needed repair. Maybe I was just lucky but it really wasn't a lot of repairs.

Plus since I bought it used (about 10 years old) the depreciation hit already was taken by the first owner.

On average I used it 20 days a summer, average that at 5 hours per day so call it 100 hours of use, worked out to $10/hr for the boat. Pretty damn cheap if you ask me.



Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (vsYKI)

296 293 If it has tits or tyres, one is bound to have problems with it...


And Pistons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (voOPb)

297 292 >> She saw some nasty stuff and is
wondering about the Pizzagate stuff


It's a bunch of nonsense made up from whole cloth, apparently.

And now I want a slice of Pepperoni.
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:23 PM (T1Co2)

It was established that the Podesta brothers are a couple of creepy fucks. Beyond that, who knows.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (0mRoj)

298 Generally speaking, I suck at lying, and I don't look like your average illegal, so I'd probably get busted.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 10:46 PM (Jcg9Q)

I'd say, apply anyway, even if you are over 40. Experience and maturity count for something. Are you a veteran? That should be mentioned, too. I suspect it's actually illegal for them to discriminate against over-40 applicants, unless there is a demanding physical requirement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (WDdjT)

299 *dolphin fistbump*

Though a better question to test for nukes would be "I sometimesalways do my roving watches with my junk hanging out of my coveralls and my flashlight shining through the 'sack-o-lantern'".
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM


Heh. I've gotten the impression that Former Sec'y Mabus would have apoplectic at anything within 100 fathoms of a question like that.

I always enjoyed the stories of Adm. Rickover's interviews. I think I was the only person that didn't have a good one.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (DMUuz)

300 >>It was established that the Podesta brothers are a couple of creepy fucks. Beyond that, who knows.


Pretty sure the lunatic who stoked that fire issued a retraction this weekend.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:27 PM (T1Co2)

301 296
293 If it has tits or tyres, one is bound to have problems with it...


And Pistons Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (voOPb)




Motors or mish?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 26, 2017 11:28 PM (kP16F)

302 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (6gk0M)



Perhaps sometime. I appreciate the offer. I also have a weird hangup
about talking with people on the phone, so please don't take any
standoffishness personally...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

Could help prepare you for interviews, which magnitudes of awful, right?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:28 PM (tHwdc)

303 Pro Tip : Never go out to sea on a boat that has only one motor.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:29 PM (T1Co2)

304
>>>If it has tits or tyres, one is bound to have problems with it...


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 26, 2017 11:24 PM (kP16F)<<<

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Alexander the Great at March 26, 2017 11:29 PM (Tstsj)

305 Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (vsYKI)


Sounds like a nice boat.

I sold mine and bought an older smaller boat. Needs a lot of cosmetic work. That said, it isn't easy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2017 11:29 PM (voOPb)

306 >> I also have a weird hangup
about talking with people on the phone


Step One : You gotta stop asking everyone what they are wearing.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:30 PM (T1Co2)

307 ... i know people in their 70's & 80's who are independent and active. unheard of back then.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 10:50 PM (WTSFk)

Went to a birthday party yesterday for a guy who is 80. He sure don't look it. We're going out 4-wheeling tomorrow morning, and he's driving his old Ford Bronco. Standard shift, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:30 PM (WDdjT)

308 57 OMG! i just got back from the parents house. AGAIN. mom is not doing so good.
Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (YhV5r)

I think she called me as soon as you left. I was downstairs eating, and didn't call back cause I feel like ass.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 26, 2017 11:31 PM (hscyr)

309 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846035682577526784

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846035820838637568

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846035907887157249

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846036003357908993

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846036106227466240

Posted by: kbdabear at March 26, 2017 11:31 PM (AOrEZ)

310 303 Pro Tip : Never go out to sea on a boat that has only one motor.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:29 PM (T1Co2)


_____


Now you tell me.

Posted by: Gilligan at March 26, 2017 11:32 PM (vsYKI)

311 Farmer,
Even Alex Jones has apologized for starting/propagating the Pizza gate crap. It was bunk.


On a side note, I just re-read the Bill Murray story about Roadhouse and Kellys Lynch - damn that is funny stuff. I wish I could sit down for a beer with that man...

http://tinyurl.com/lfszwk6

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 11:32 PM (2SERm)

312 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846036192055508993

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846036307306561540

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846036391305850882

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/846036478723547136

Posted by: kbdabear at March 26, 2017 11:32 PM (AOrEZ)

313 Dad's medi-alert went off this morning as I was about to go to breakfast with my girlfriend.
He's OK, the rig he has triggered accidentally, but I discovered that under pressure my GF drives like a jet pilot* and should have gotten a job driving an ambulance.

(*jet pilots don't often have to back up or parallel park either)


Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 11:34 PM (0hI48)

314 303 Pro Tip : Never go out to sea on a boat that has only one motor.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:29 PM (T1Co2)


My mom only flew in an airplane once. It was a Lockheed Constellation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation

She always said, "I wanted a plane with as many motors and tails as possible."

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2017 11:34 PM (sdi6R)

315 AOP- are you in Drumheller?

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at March 26, 2017 11:34 PM (CL76w)

316 Heya Miley.

Posted by: SMFH at March 26, 2017 11:36 PM (sB1y1)

317 SMFH, wondered if you were around.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 11:36 PM (0hI48)

318 >> She saw some nasty stuff and is
wondering about the Pizzagate stuff


It's a bunch of nonsense made up from whole cloth, apparently.

And now I want a slice of Pepperoni.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:23 PM (T1Co2)


Kinky...

Posted by: Podesta Bros. at March 26, 2017 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

319 My favorite is, "the only thing better than having a boat is having a friend with a boat."

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (GrsIT)


The two best days concerning owning a boat is the day you buy it and the day you sell it.

BOAT = Bust Out Another Thousand

Posted by: RickZ at March 26, 2017 11:36 PM (hkdnQ)

320 ..."He hasn't said anything about my parents, nor have I asked it of him.

He has assured me he will take everything at my pace.

I just know personally, how this will probably go. I mean, they aren't crazy about the online thing as it is. So, if I were to introduce the model guy, a Catholic Rhodes scholar, Harvard (Notre Dame undergrad of course) educated philanthropist, if I told them it was an online thing....they would be hesitant. A guy a decade older? It would be tough.
"
-Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:24 PM (smD62)

What I am saying is that a guy who is unwilling to meet your Father isn't serious.

There is a reason that little step is in the process.

Meet him once. Use your judgement. Meet him twice. Let him loosen up and explain himself.

Meet him Three Times, he meets your Dad or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

THAT puts a guy On The Spot. It makes things REAL. If he is "Scared Away", he never meant to commit to you.

AFTER he meets your Dad? His behavior may get him laid.

And not according to your Dad, but with his opinion in-mind. Considering, (of course), your relationship with your Father.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:37 PM (6gk0M)

321 In fairness, anything and everything tastes better pickled.
Posted by: qdpsteve
------------
Apparently it's the only way to enjoy pigs feet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2017 11:37 PM (ZO497)

322 I'm going 4 wheeling in my Ford Bronto.

Posted by: Fred Flintstone at March 26, 2017 11:37 PM (IqV8l)

323 Heh. I've gotten the impression that Former Sec'y Mabus would have apoplectic at anything within 100 fathoms of a question like that.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (DMUuz)


He wasn't exactly a fan of the Navy.
http://www.duffelblog.com/2016/05/mabus-admits-he-hates-navy/

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:38 PM (8nWyX)

324 S. O. S.

Posted by: Richard Simmons at March 26, 2017 11:38 PM (UEWON)

325 How to make a small fortune in racing...start with a large fortune.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at March 26, 2017 11:38 PM (os0Ma)

326 I endeavor to be perverse.


Carry on.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:38 PM (S6Pax)

327 SMFH - Folk here have been asking about you all week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2017 11:38 PM (ZO497)

328 So what is going on with Richard Simmons? Has he turned into Salvador Dali alone in his castle?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 11:39 PM (0hI48)

329 Lotsa 'ettes here tonight.

I'm feel like I'm surrounded.

And I like it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:40 PM (IcT7t)

330 Work is keeping me busy.

Posted by: SMFH at March 26, 2017 11:40 PM (sB1y1)

331 I endeavor to be perverse.


Carry on.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:38 PM (S6Pax)


Do you also eschew surplusage?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 11:41 PM (0hI48)

332 Bring that shit to ME, not qdpsteve.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (6gk0M)

You want a piece of this? You want a PIECE of this?!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:41 PM (tHwdc)

333 He's sweating to the angel choir.

Posted by: Richard Simmons's Maid at March 26, 2017 11:41 PM (UEWON)

334 >>So what is going on with Richard Simmons?


He's just Sweatin' to the Oldies.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:42 PM (T1Co2)

335 CNN: Finding Jesus.

They'll conclude he's a Tranny Laotian Lesbian who identifies as a black guy from Seattle.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 11:42 PM (pY+s4)

336 Howdy, SMFH!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:42 PM (6gk0M)

337 Hey Slap.

Posted by: SMFH at March 26, 2017 11:43 PM (sB1y1)

338 Well talking about John Deere's...I started farming w/ Grandpa's 520, 1956 I think, a 720 from 1958?, and then a gasoline 1972 4230. This was in 1980 and I used them till 2012.

When her kids sold the farm and I quit farming the 4230 gas JD brought big bucks, only 42 were made. Think they got $42,000 at least, it was amazing.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 11:43 PM (o/90i)

339 329 Lotsa 'ettes here tonight.I'm feel like I'm surrounded.And I like it.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:40 PM (Ic

Waves hi to blanco.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 26, 2017 11:44 PM (hscyr)

340 >>They'll conclude he's a Tranny Laotian Lesbian who identifies as a black guy from Seattle.



It'd be a hard sell, but I've heard crazier.

Posted by: Joseph Smith at March 26, 2017 11:44 PM (T1Co2)

341 @320

Okay, well duly noted, and I appreciate it.

I don't know that he is against meeting my Dad; I can't assume anything either way, and it is probably WAY too early to bring it up.

And, rofl, not sure about the laid thing, but...interesting thought.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:44 PM (smD62)

342 "You want a piece of this? You want a PIECE of this?!"
-Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:41 PM (tHwdc)

*C'mere*

No, I really want to tell you something, but I have to whisper it.

*makes c'mere motion with finger*

No, Seriously. If I whisper it, you'll Know it and nobody else will.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:44 PM (6gk0M)

343 Do you also eschew surplusage?
Posted by: Kindltot


I try to limit my minimalization.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:45 PM (S6Pax)

344 We called those guys 'The Hatchet Men'. Every company has one. Some love the work, though.

Posted by: RickZ at March 26, 2017 11:21 PM (hkdnQ)

At one point it was proposed to send me to Japan to sort out some shit going on over there, and that essentially would have been my role.
Fortunately my boss interceded, saying he needed me here, and so I didn't end up as the gaijin hatchet man commuting back and forth from HQ in the US. /shudder

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 11:45 PM (SRKgf)

345 He's fine. After 3 years of the concern of the public, he still doesn't want you to know he's fine.

He wants you sweatin' to your questions.

Posted by: Richard Simmons's Attorney at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (UEWON)

346 Waves hi to blanco.

*Waves back.* Hope you're doing well. Still can't pronounce the name of those darn shoes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (IcT7t)

347 They'll conclude he's a Tranny Laotian Lesbian who identifies as a black guy from Seattle.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 11:42 PM (pY+s4)


"He"?

How dare you assume my gender!

Posted by: Hipster Jesus at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (vBeA5)

348 I got a GPS for spraying, but no tractor with embedded software.

But it sounded like Deere was just saying "if you repair it yourself, don't sue us if your auto-steer runs off course." Sorta "warranty void if this seal is broken" kind of thing.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (BrMft)

349 That's all I meant to say, Tickled Pink. I wasn't caging anything in a miasma. I just figured that you were young.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (6gk0M)

350 AOP- are you in Drumheller?

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at March 26, 2017 11:34 PM (CL76w)

No, that's another 20-odd miles south of Rowley. I am north a few miles. and on the other side of the Red Deer River by a few miles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:47 PM (WDdjT)

351

Bust
Out
Anorher
Thousand

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 11:48 PM (89T5c)

352 @349

I'm actually not all that young.

But, my dating experience is very very minimal so...in a way, you could say I'm a bit green.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:48 PM (smD62)

353 Roger that, Ma'am.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:49 PM (6gk0M)

354 It's a bunch of nonsense made up from whole cloth, apparently.

And now I want a slice of Pepperoni.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:23 PM (T1Co2)

Kinky...

Posted by: Podesta Bros. at March 26, 2017 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

I am thinking the Podestas and the Comet Pingpong owner got some heavy-duty lawyers to lean on Alex Jones, real hard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:50 PM (WDdjT)

355 That "Comet Ping-Pong" thing isn't really a thing, is it? Where's Pepe?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:52 PM (6gk0M)

356 qdpsteve, you got a shooting schedule yet?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:52 PM (IcT7t)

357 No, Seriously. If I whisper it, you'll Know it and nobody else will.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:44 PM (6gk0M)

<eyes Slap suspiciously>

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:53 PM (tHwdc)

358 Hi SMFH! Howzit goin'?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:53 PM (tHwdc)

359 *c'mere*

No, really.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:54 PM (6gk0M)

360 I promise that I won't hit a lady.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:54 PM (6gk0M)

361 346 *Waves back.* Hope you're doing well. Still can't pronounce the name of those darn shoes.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (IcT7

Low boo tan

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 26, 2017 11:55 PM (hscyr)

362 Low boo tan

You're cussing at me in Thai, arent' you?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:56 PM (IcT7t)

363 I promise that I won't hit a lady.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:54 PM (6gk0M)

Pretend I'm that shady cat in the window from the other night. Dare you look me in the eye?

Posted by: Miley, the Cat at March 26, 2017 11:56 PM (tHwdc)

364 I'm watching The Lobster. It's a weird movie.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (Tnhbr)

365 That detective[s/] police officer will be doing "vertical patrol" in Todt Hill Houses next week.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (brIR5)

366 SSDD, Miley...as usual.

Posted by: SMFH at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (sB1y1)

367

Got it!

Posted by: Fox2! at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (brIR5)

368 Well, I'm glad to see you SFMH.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (0hI48)

369 Nite all, the wife and I are wondering off to bed.
Sleep well and be proud of America tomorrow.

Rock on.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (o/90i)

370
SSDD, Miley...as usual.

Posted by: SMFH at March 26, 2017 11:57 PM (sB1y1)

You were gonna call, did you call? Or try to?

Posted by: Miley, the Cat at March 26, 2017 11:58 PM (tHwdc)

371 362 Low boo tan
You're cussing at me in Thai, arent' you?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:56 PM (IcT7

Noooooo! They got really upset at me fogging up the store window last time I was in London.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 26, 2017 11:59 PM (hscyr)

372 "Pretend I'm that shady cat in the window from the other night. Dare you look me in the eye?"
-Posted by: Miley, the Cat at March 26, 2017 11:56 PM (tHwdc)

Pretend I am a coyote, what waits on the cat.

Dare you go outside?

*Warms-Up Cerberus in the Bullpen*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 11:59 PM (6gk0M)

373 @364

Terrible movie. Just terrible. Most of my movie nerd friends even agree that it's just...not worth watching.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:59 PM (smD62)

374 Mental toughness lives within Jocko Willink and vice versa.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 26, 2017 11:59 PM (nDcc3)

375 G'Night, Farmer!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (6gk0M)

376 And with a furlong to go its John Deere, IH and Case!
John Deere, IH and Case is closing!
And coming up on the outside, its Mahindra!

Tractor racing is exciting. Just don't bet on a apprentice driver.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (FtrY1)

377 Good to see you SMFH.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (Jen0I)

378 <glares at Slap through the window and hisses>

Posted by: Miley, the Cat at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (tHwdc)

379 You were gonna call, did you call? Or try to?
Posted by: Miley, the Cat at March 26, 2017 11:58 PM (tHwdc)

---

More like forgot to call...

In process of moving as well as working.

Posted by: SMFH at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (sB1y1)

380 362 Low boo tan

You're cussing at me in Thai, arent' you?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2017 11:56 PM (IcT7t)

Oh sweetie, just call 'em sailor shoes, and everyone who's ever been to fleet week will know what you mean.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2017 12:01 AM (cm1Bl)

381 ""
-Posted by: Miley, the Cat at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (tHwdc)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:01 AM (6gk0M)

382 Could help prepare you for interviews, which magnitudes of awful, right?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 11:28 PM (tHwdc)

Interviews suck. I'd rather be waterboarded.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 27, 2017 12:01 AM (0mRoj)

383 So, today we are thinking of moving out of our apartment at @$2K into one about $1.5K, and we drove by to see it. It's a house, really, with another apartment in the basement, and there were two moose in the yard eating the birch trees.

So, do you suppose they charge extra for the moose? And can we put them in our freezer?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (cm1Bl)

384
Terrible movie. Just terrible. Most of my movie nerd friends even agree that it's just...not worth watching.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 26, 2017 11:59 PM (smD62)


It's... meh. I kinda get the point, but it tries too hard.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (Tnhbr)

385 From time to time, I have given some thought to cashing out some retirement money, and buying an old classic motor yacht in the Fall, on the B.C. coast. Thirty, thirty-five footer, fiberglass, not wood. Pay for moorage or dry storage over the winter, and work on fixing up the little things. Come Spring, use it intensively as much as possible, for the entire summer. Pull it from the water next Fall, do any required service, and sell it the following Spring.

...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (WDdjT)



Entertaining a shanty boat fantasy and pursuing it on the web I saw some attractive and comfortable looking boats. I seems popular around New England area - a lot of barrier islands and rivulets. I guess BC is the same.

Posted by: gNewt at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (6oxBO)

386 Well, I got the code-required firewall all built in the garage here in the house in AJ. Wall is 24 feet long, by about 12 feet tall; two layers of 5/8 firecode sheetrock. All the sheetrock is now up, and screwed down to the studs by numerous 2" screws. Cordless power screwdrivers FTW! Had a friend come over and help. He hung most of the panels, while I cut them down on the floor, and handed them up.

Think I am about done with construction for this go-round. Not enough days left to start anything big, so I will just cut weeds, tidy up, fix a few small things, and prepare the place to summer-over without me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 12:03 AM (WDdjT)

387 I keep my Heimlich maneuver skills honed to a razor's edge by practicing on surprised restaurant patrons. You never know when you'll encounter someone who could use a good Heimlich or two and I'll be ready.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at March 27, 2017 12:03 AM (6V6KE)

388 In process of moving as well as working.

Posted by: SMFH at March 27, 2017 12:00 AM (sB1y1)

Understood. We'll catch up when you've got a chance.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:05 AM (tHwdc)

389 Noooooo! They got really upset at me fogging up the store window last time I was in London.

I thought the last thing they would notice in London is a little fog.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 12:06 AM (IcT7t)

390 Interviews suck. I'd rather be waterboarded.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 27, 2017 12:01 AM (0mRoj)

Fucking hell yes! I've got a video interview I've been avoiding all weekend.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:07 AM (tHwdc)

391 Hope everyone is doing well

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:07 AM (nDcc3)

392 Entertaining a shanty boat fantasy and pursuing it on the web I saw some attractive and comfortable looking boats. I seems popular around New England area - a lot of barrier islands and rivulets. I guess BC is the same.

Posted by: gNewt at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (6oxBO)

You can do a lot of cruising on the B.C. coast, and never have to enter the open ocean until you hit Queen Charlotte Sound. There a thousands of miles of coastline because of all the deep fjords and offshore islands.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 12:07 AM (WDdjT)

393 So, do you suppose they charge extra for the moose? And can we put them in our freezer?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (cm1Bl)

Moose are a good luck sign. Right? Especially in stew.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:08 AM (tHwdc)

394 Howdy, thathalfrican.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:09 AM (6gk0M)

395 Cordless power screwdrivers FTW!

They're amazing, around they?

Ninety percent of my DIY tasks involve

1. cordless drill
2. cordless impact driver
3. reciprocating saw
4. oscillating saw
5. angle grinder

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2017 12:09 AM (SRKgf)

396 Okay I'm back.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:10 AM (qazQh)

397 Hope everyone is doing well


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:07 AM (nDcc3)

Well enough! No job, but I went shooting this morning, and that was fun.
How are you, thathalfrican?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:11 AM (tHwdc)

398 Slap my man, how goes it

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:11 AM (nDcc3)

399 Gah, got caught up in videos.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 12:12 AM (uKRys)

400 I thought the last thing they would notice in London is a little fog.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 12:06 AM (IcT7t)

Surprisingly enough, London doesn't get that much fog. We get much more here in SoCal. The "London fog" thing started when Londoners all burned coal in a largely futile effort to keep warm, but now that that's banned, fog is relatively rare in London (presumably because the requisite temperature differentials between land and water don't generally exist).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2017 12:12 AM (SRKgf)

401 AOP, thanks, I'll check that out! :-)

Blake, also thanks. I think AVFM is a mixed bag, some good stuff and some bad. Of course others are welcome to disagree and I just don't want to needlessly antagonize some of my friends here, that's all. :-)

Miley, LOL! Picturing you doing your DeNiro impression... :-)

And Blanco: no schedule yet but things *are* coming together. I think I'm going to go with the dark comedy idea rather than the desert horror flick, and that by itself will help accelerate the production. Will keep you posted, thanks for asking. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:12 AM (qazQh)

402 Miley! My dear lady, I'm doing well. I go on call come Tuesday which sucks but w/e it's part of the gig.

I honestly can't complain much, as for you? Get that job you slacker!

Ha!

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:13 AM (nDcc3)

403 Smileys, everyone!! Smileys!!

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve as Ricardo Montalban on Fantasy Island (this week's special guest: Mila Kunis) at March 27, 2017 12:13 AM (qazQh)

404 383 So, today we are thinking of moving out of our apartment at @$2K into one about $1.5K, and we drove by to see it. It's a house, really, with another apartment in the basement, and there were two moose in the yard eating the birch trees.

So, do you suppose they charge extra for the moose? And can we put them in our freezer?
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (cm1Bl)


We often use the line "Moose outside should have told you", but wow, you really do have moose outside.






So... did it tell you?

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2017 12:13 AM (sdi6R)

405 *HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:01 AM (6gk0M)

FYI we lost a kitty to a coyote. Risky business, living adjacent to a canyon. The other two made it fine.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:14 AM (tHwdc)

406 "The Lobster" eh?

I should write a script called "Pizza: The Movie."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:15 AM (qazQh)

407
385 From time to time, I have given some thought to cashing out some retirement money, and buying an old classic motor yacht in the Fall, on the B.C. coast. Thirty, thirty-five footer, fiberglass, not wood. Pay for moorage or dry storage over the winter, and work on fixing up the little things. Come Spring, use it intensively as much as possible, for the entire summer. Pull it from the water next Fall, do any required service, and sell it the following Spring.

...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:12 PM (WDdjT)



Entertaining a shanty boat fantasy and pursuing it on the web I saw some attractive and comfortable looking boats. I seems popular around New England area - a lot of barrier islands and rivulets. I guess BC is the same.
Posted by: gNewt at March 27, 2017 12:02 AM (6oxBO)

Yeah, the back side of Vancouver Island is a great place to motor but get a good radar and chart system. Highly recommend lots of practice buoy mooring. Stooge around, dock for a while, repeat.
Roche Harbor for customs into the US. Less traffic. Cutting the border can draw grumpy DHS types.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 27, 2017 12:15 AM (FtrY1)

408 I'm okay, I guess, thathalfrican... I'm not going to mind The Little Stuff any longer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:16 AM (6gk0M)

409 I honestly can't complain much, as for you? Get that job you slacker!

Ha!


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:13 AM (nDcc3)

Bleah. Will pay the bills, not much more.

I need to write and buy lottery tickets.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:16 AM (tHwdc)

410 Slap, yup.

If you don't sweat the small stuff, you've got the right stuff. Anyone who says otherwise can stuff it. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (qazQh)

411 Slap, hopefully the little stuff is truly little and not big.

I'll tell you like I told my fiance; Dennis Prager's book "Happiness is a Serious Problem"

Is the single greatest self help guide since the Bible.

But if everything is little? Still read the book heh.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (nDcc3)

412 Trust me when I say a boat is a hole in the water you pour money into. There's always something that needs fixing or improving. Your friends who love to come aboard develop alligator arms or left their wallets at home when you're at the fuel dock. Stay and help you wash it down at the end of the day? Not a chance.
Docking fees, launching fees and insurance premiums get higher every year.
They say the second happiest day of your life is buying your boat. The happiest day is the day you sell it...at a yuuge loss.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (6V6KE)

413 Roger that, qdpsteve.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (6gk0M)

414


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:16 AM (tHwdc)

How bout this; if I win the big lotto, I'll hook you up with a sum of cash?Cuz' this rat race is slightly overrated.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:18 AM (nDcc3)

415 Hi all. It's awful late but had to look in.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 27, 2017 12:18 AM (TdMsT)

416 Thank you, Sir. Dennis Prager is indeed an excellent example.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:18 AM (6gk0M)

417 Fucking hell yes! I've got a video interview I've been avoiding all weekend.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:07 AM (tHwdc)

Part of the game unfortunately.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 27, 2017 12:19 AM (0mRoj)

418 qdpsteve, it's good to see you not jammed up with commenters this time!

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:19 AM (nDcc3)

419 thathalfrican, I have that book by Prager. It's great. :-)

I love his story about how, let's imagine there were two books on sale at your local bookstore. One is titled "The Key To Happiness: Keep Saying YES To Yourself!" And the other is titled "The Key To Happiness: Keep Saying NO To Yourself!"

Then Prager asks: gee, which of these books in today's society do you think would become an all-time best seller, and which of these do you think would get recycled into toilet paper within weeks? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:19 AM (qazQh)

420 Slap the mere fact you know of the dopeness that is Prager affirms you're a good dude in my book.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:20 AM (nDcc3)

421 slap and thathalfrican, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:20 AM (qazQh)

422 389 I thought the last thing they would notice in London is a little fog.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 12:06 AM (IcT

Heh

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 27, 2017 12:20 AM (hscyr)

423 Night all.

Here is "Blood and Thunder" from Mastodon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 27, 2017 12:21 AM (vBeA5)

424 And Blanco: no schedule yet but things *are* coming together. I think
I'm going to go with the dark comedy idea rather than the desert horror
flick, and that by itself will help accelerate the production. Will keep
you posted, thanks for asking. :-)


I was reminded to ask you about it the other day when I was told that I could never play a role convincingly.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 12:21 AM (IcT7t)

425 I should write a script called "Pizza: The Movie."
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:15 AM (qazQh)


It's an interesting idea for a movie. The basic premise is a world where people are required to be paired up. A newly single man is taken to a hotel housing other singles, and has 45 days to find love. If he doesn't then he will be turned into an animal of his choosing. In this case, a lobster.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 12:21 AM (Tnhbr)

426 Time to check out. Don't burn the place down without me.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 27, 2017 12:22 AM (0mRoj)

427 thathalfrican,

Back when I lived in Texas and could hear Prager's show, his Happiness Hour every Friday was a huge help to me. I discovered him just after my divorce, when severely depressed. At first, in the state I was in, I thought it was all BS, but I couldn't stop listening. His talks on happiness helped me get through.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 27, 2017 12:23 AM (rJUlF)

428 Blanco, don't listen to the haters. :-)

Bet you'd be a great actor.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:23 AM (qazQh)

429 qdp, Prager is just a beast man. I love that dude, I'm not the most religious guy but he does make me interested in Christianity and Judaism.

The fact he cites the Old Testament as his guide, it makes me want read the whole Bible from front to back and understand it on a deep level.

Then again I like drinking and being lazy which hurts my cause haha.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:23 AM (nDcc3)

430 400 Surprisingly enough, London doesn't get that much fog. We get much more here in SoCal.

Yeah I was just trying to remember how much fog I've seen there, and it's not much. Really only saw ground fog while I lived in Kent.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 27, 2017 12:24 AM (hscyr)

431 Bet you'd be a great actor.

Well, I'm ignorant on most subjects and an arrogant ass. So, yeah.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 12:25 AM (IcT7t)

432 Colorado Alex, hmmm. Kind of interesting, kind of weird.

I think I've mentioned the "twist" of my desert horror flick, right?

The guy drives and drives and drives, and never can find anyone or anything, even though everything tells him he should be in Las Vegas or have passed through at least several towns. Eventually he gets to a place where there's not even signs, he runs out of gas, and the road disappears.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:25 AM (qazQh)

433 Apropos nothing, I feel better, now that I'm coming out of the deep, deep hole that has been my mourning period for the past three-plus years. That's an excellent thing. I can't tell you how much my mood has improved since I've gotten out of that hole. I'm actually looking forward to my next adventure, whatever it will be. And leaving VA at some point.

Had a convo with my MiL yesterday. I was telling her about this, and I got the strangest feeling that she - well, not disapproves, but on some level this is disappointing or at least jarring to her.

There's going to be a big dinner and concert to celebrate FiL's 90th next Sunday. I wonder what she'll think when she sees that I've moved my engagement ring to my right hand.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:26 AM (tHwdc)

434 "qdpsteve, it's good to see you not jammed up with commenters this time!"
-Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:19 AM (nDcc3)

Dude got "cornholed" because he stated that he was reading a website. Then he called the 'Ettes "Feminists". ...lol. *whoops*

Cornered, but not without reason.

You can't call the 'ettes "feminists".

He's honing his edge without becoming anti-female.

He's always been a Good Guy. Period.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:26 AM (6gk0M)

435 Yeah, the back side of Vancouver Island is a great place to motor but get a good radar and chart system. Highly recommend lots of practice buoy mooring. Stooge around, dock for a while, repeat.
Roche Harbor for customs into the US. Less traffic. Cutting the border can draw grumpy DHS types.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 27, 2017 12:15 AM (FtrY1)

Radar, and HF marine radio. There are also some very affordable GPS nav systems for small craft, too.

The idea, which is just at the pipe dream stage right now, is to buy an older, but basically sound boat, which is mostly depreciated. Fix up some small stuff, use the Hell out of it for a boating season, store over winter, and sell next boating season when prices tick up again. Expect to take a loss, but amortize that loss over many, many hours of cruising.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 12:27 AM (WDdjT)

436 I'll tell you like I told my fiance; Dennis Prager's book "Happiness is a Serious Problem"

Is the single greatest self help guide since the Bible.

But if everything is little? Still read the book heh.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (nDcc3)

You're the second person yo mention that book in the last ten days. Guess I'm meant to read it.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:27 AM (tHwdc)

437 Blanco, don't sell yourself short :-)

Thathalfrican, I love Prager as well, but I can't listen to his show anymore because among other things, I think he's too nice, frankly. He seems like one of these people who would rather worry about the left than help solve problems. I think his show would be easier to listen to if he were paired with someone like Hugh Hewitt or Michael Medved, who are more what I'd call "happy warriors" and have major concrete ideas on how conservatives can actually WIN some of their battles.

I love that he genuinely seems to have compassion for everyone, but I'm way past that point unfortunately.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:28 AM (qazQh)

438 Slap, also thanks.

I am definitely one of the good guys, that I know. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:29 AM (qazQh)

439 A foggy day in London Town
Had me low and had me down
I viewed the morning with alarm
The British Museum had lost its charm

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at March 27, 2017 12:29 AM (6V6KE)

440 Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 27, 2017 12:23 AM (rJUlF)

Prager is a boss. He's amazing to be frank, in every sense of the word.

His clarity, morality and.....well everything is just amazing. He's the only dude who can keep me from listening to Rush.

His happiness hour, I used to skip in my 20's and I wish I could go back and slap the shit out of myself then, I missed out on A LOT of shit and I do believe if I took that hour to heart I would have quickened my pace.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:30 AM (nDcc3)

441 Offering bag

"Jelly baby?"

Posted by: Dr Who at March 27, 2017 12:31 AM (brIR5)

442 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:26 AM (6gk0M)

I was here towards the end of that shit. Not a good look all around but qdp is a good dude, just got caught up is all.

It happens.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:31 AM (nDcc3)

443 How bout this; if I win the big lotto, I'll hook you up with a sum of cash?Cuz' this rat race is slightly overrated.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:18 AM (nDcc3)

That's a kind offer. Ditto.
Never, ever been on board with the rat race. I felt like I must be mentally ill or deviant. I no longer think that way. I'm just different, but need to slog my way to a better DIFFERENT life. You can't straddle the fence, gotta pick one side or the other. I'm not a regular person and have to stop trying to pretend that I am. Just looking at job ads makes me shake my head in disgust.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:31 AM (tHwdc)

444 From time to time, I have given some thought to cashing out some retirement money, and buying an old classic motor yacht in the Fall,

...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---------

Hey...didn't I send you a How-To manual for building your own?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2017 12:32 AM (ZO497)

445 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:27 AM (tHwdc)


I push Prager pretty hard here so I'll be the first to admit I'm not impartial at all, but I also do think I speak from the heart with sincerity.

That book will change your life IF, and that's a big if, you let it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:33 AM (nDcc3)

446 Part of the game unfortunately.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 27, 2017 12:19 AM (0mRoj)

LOLOL, sez YOU!
Oh, (((Insomniac)))! I do love you.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:33 AM (tHwdc)

447
412 Trust me when I say a boat is a hole in the water you pour money into. There's always something that needs fixing or improving. Your friends who love to come aboard develop alligator arms or left their wallets at home when you're at the fuel dock. Stay and help you wash it down at the end of the day? Not a chance.
Docking fees, launching fees and insurance premiums get higher every year.
They say the second happiest day of your life is buying your boat. The happiest day is the day you sell it...at a yuuge loss.
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (6V6KE)

As a Fender, Fourth Class, it is part of my job to place my body between boat and dock during those nasty approaches when current and wind both work against you. Not being wet or squished always earns a scrubbed boat.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 27, 2017 12:33 AM (FtrY1)

448 I'd like to get a link to Captain Whitebread's show, if someone would indulge me.

New computer. And the old link was buried and, sadly, never used.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:34 AM (6gk0M)

449 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:31 AM (tHwdc)

I feel you, but as Mike Tyson put it; "Fuck it, it's a fight" and that's the mantra my father and I have for pretty much anything thrown at us in life.

So while I agree with you, try to do different, also do what needs to be done and don't sweat it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:35 AM (nDcc3)

450 I think I've mentioned the "twist" of my desert horror flick, right?

The guy drives and drives and drives, and never can find anyone or anything, even though everything tells him he should be in Las Vegas or have passed through at least several towns. Eventually he gets to a place where there's not even signs, he runs out of gas, and the road disappears.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:25 AM (qazQh)


I hadn't heard about it. Sounds interesting.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 12:37 AM (Tnhbr)

451 thathalfrican... yeah.

The guy has never been a bad dude. He answers questions left-and-right, he entertains thoughts and mindfully answers to the best of is ability.

He is something I could never be... "Sweet".

I believe myself to be mindful and prayerful, but I'm not "sweet".

This dude is and I'll play apologist for him until the End of Days.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:38 AM (6gk0M)

452 Slap, ol' buddy. ol' pal, give me a moment. I'm looking for the direct link to my station's web player.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 27, 2017 12:39 AM (rJUlF)

453 Colorado, thanks.

I *still* haven't given away the ending, bear in mind. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:39 AM (qazQh)

454 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 12:38 AM (6gk0M)

Basically. He's always seemed earnest in his commenting even if it seemed harsh or uncouth.

I would hope we would all call him - or any of us - on bullshit, myself included, if we felt so inclined though without running anyone off the comment section you know?

Keeps things on the up and up.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:41 AM (nDcc3)

455 That book will change your life IF, and that's a big if, you let it.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:33 AM (nDcc3)

LOL, OK - ordered it on Amazon.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:41 AM (tHwdc)

456 Haven't listened to his show for a *long* time, and yet... I'd still like to meet Prager some time.

Guess I should start listening to his show again.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:42 AM (qazQh)

457 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:41 AM (tHwdc)

*high fives*

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:42 AM (nDcc3)

458
That book will change your life IF, and that's a big if, you let it.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:33 AM (nDcc3)

I will see if the library has it. I need to do something.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 12:43 AM (uKRys)

459 Talk at FB that Nigel Farage is in support of helping there become a West California and an East California.

I just joked, their mottos would be:

West CA: "Eureka!"
East CA: "Yeah, well you don't smell so great yourself."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:44 AM (qazQh)

460 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:42 AM (qazQh)

I'm trying to justify paying money to see him, Hugh Hewitt and I think Mike Gallagher at some function.

I'd pay just to hear him but the other two bring the value down

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:44 AM (nDcc3)

461 I would hope we would all call him - or any of us -
on bullshit, myself included, if we felt so inclined though without
running anyone off the comment section you know?

Keeps things on the up and up.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:41 AM (nDcc3)

In the future, I'll run myself off the comments section.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (tHwdc)

462 Slap, I thought I had a direct link to the web player, but I can't find it. Go to

http://www.kool1055fm.com

Click the "Listen Live" button on the upper right, and the player will pop up. You'll have to turn your adblocker off if you have one.

I'm on the air from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Central Daylight Time. Please don't reveal my secret identity.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the all-night request line at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (rJUlF)

463 Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 12:43 AM (uKRys)

I'll fucking buy it for you if it's that serious to you.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (nDcc3)

464 Also, under Farage's plan? *East* California would get the entire border with Mexico, not the West.

So I guess there would finally be some enforcement.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (qazQh)

465 I'd say, apply anyway, even if you are over 40. Experience and maturity count for something. Are you a veteran? That should be mentioned, too. I suspect it's actually illegal for them to discriminate against over-40 applicants, unless there is a demanding physical requirement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2017 11:26 PM (WDdjT)

Not a veteran, but didn't see anything I couldn't handle even at my age. That age limit thing did kinda throw me though, especially being a government ad.

I dunno, will think about it.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (D2vc1)

466 437
Hugh Hewitt or Michael Medved
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:28 AM (qazQh)


*blinks*

*twitches*

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2017 12:46 AM (sdi6R)

467 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (tHwdc)

I know that sword looks comfy but there's no need to fall on it!



Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:46 AM (nDcc3)

468 Moose are a good luck sign. Right? Especially in stew.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:08 AM (tHwdc)

Teriyaki, FTW. On the grill.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2017 12:47 AM (cm1Bl)

469 I'm going to call it a night, folks. Gotta get up early tomorrow and take care of business.

Thanks for a lovely evening!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:47 AM (tHwdc)

470 Thanks Slap and thathalfrican! That means a lot. :-)

The reason I keep coming back here is because you all aren't just a bunch of one-note hitters. We can talk politics, but we can also talk movies, music, electronics, cars... you name it. There's a lot of quality, truly educated people here and I love that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:48 AM (qazQh)

471 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:28 AM (qazQh)

I just read this because of rickl, my man, we have vastly different opinions of him then.

Medved is the ultimate go along to get along and Hewitt is just......well.......who fucking knows.

Prager lords over them.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:49 AM (nDcc3)

472 Night Miley

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:50 AM (nDcc3)

473 rickl, Hewitt and Medved have lots of baggage too, no doubt. :-) Hewitt is too much the GOP rah-rah IMHO and Medved sometimes comes off as the actual real-life Ned Flanders, also IMHO.

I have yet to find the perfect radio talk show host. Larry Elder maybe?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:50 AM (qazQh)

474 I know that sword looks comfy but there's no need to fall on it!






Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:46 AM (nDcc3)

Not comfy, just not going to run through this yet again, regardless of Slap's desire to do so.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:50 AM (tHwdc)

475 thathalfrican, I definitely agree Prager is best in class.

I discovered KABC radio in 1990 or so, looking for, of all people, David Viscott, and discovered Prager by accident. I used to drive my family nuts always going "And then Prager said about this..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:51 AM (qazQh)

476 A friend of mine's dad passed away over the weekend. He was, however overworked the phrase may be, a member of The Greatest Generation. Went away to war, came back to his small town, and made a life. A good life.

The Obit says it all:
http://tinyurl.com/mzebzgc

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2017 12:51 AM (ZO497)

477 Part of the reason I like Medved, I admit, is because Roger Ebert hated him so much for a while.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 12:52 AM (qazQh)

478 Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 12:45 AM (nDcc3)

Hitting hitting the job search every day. UI doesn't go far. If they don't have it I will get it. I am used to giving, not taking, but thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 12:53 AM (uKRys)

479 The most expensive hobby a rich man could have is a hot young girlfriend.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at March 27, 2017 12:54 AM (5fSr7)

480 Though a better question to test for nukes would be "I sometimesalways do my roving watches with my junk hanging out of my coveralls and my flashlight shining through the 'sack-o-lantern'".
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:04 PM (8nWyX)

I thought nukes didn't need a flashlight to light up the "sack-o-lantern"

Posted by: Dr Who at March 27, 2017 12:56 AM (brIR5)

481 qdp Larry Elder is awesome wish he would take Medved's spot

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:01 AM (nDcc3)

482 Thanks, Cap'n! I'm all hooked-up, now.

And yeah, qdpsteve. You're a dude worth defending. You're not a jackass. I should have been chided 100x over, rather than you.

Now that I have hung myself with some of our favorite 'ettes, I'll just back-out gracefully.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:01 AM (6gk0M)

483 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 12:50 AM (tHwdc)

My bad if I brought up bad vibes, just making jokes my dear!

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:02 AM (nDcc3)

484 Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 12:53 AM (uKRys)

I feel you, I just believe so deeply in that book and the outlook it preps you for is all.

Best of luck.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:03 AM (nDcc3)

485 Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at March 27, 2017 12:54 AM (5fSr7)

Pretty much.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:04 AM (nDcc3)

486 Slap: thanks yet again, and you deserve defending too. :-)

Goodnight, see you soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 01:04 AM (qazQh)

487 *unstatic*

G'Night, amigo!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:09 AM (6gk0M)

488 *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:10 AM (6gk0M)

489 I think I better call it a night too. Thanks for the support everyone, and my apologies to anyone I forgot to thank and call out by name.

Happy work week! See y'all soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2017 01:11 AM (qazQh)

490 *unstatic*
Listening to Little Red Corvette on Kool 106.5 FM

http://kool1055fm.com/

Good Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*OUT!*

*steps on cigarette*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:12 AM (6gk0M)

491 Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:03 AM (nDcc3)

Thanks, I wasn't trying to be snippy. I always enjoy your being so positive. Much happiness for your upcoming nuptials. It does help, as do the other morons.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:13 AM (uKRys)

492 All good Infidel, sometimes life IS a shit filled Twinkie.

The response however is all your own, even if the taste does suck.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:16 AM (nDcc3)

Posted by: dartist at March 27, 2017 01:18 AM (6auC4)

494
I have yet to find the perfect radio talk show host.

Rush Steyn

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2017 01:18 AM (IqV8l)

495 Returning briefly after getting ready for bed.

Look, the criticism was of the relentless negative focus of those articles and qdpsteve's relentless pushing of them on that thread, and then name-calling the 'ettes who found them alarming. NOT hating on qdpsteve or implying that he isn't a good guy.

There shouldn't be a battle of the sexes. We need each other.

I get it. I've been aware of the grotesque unfairness of the system against men long before this whole Red Pill stuff began. I was discussing it with friends before the fucking Matrix movie with the Red Pill meme even came out. That was like 20 years ago and more.

The point is to not demonize an entire group because of the bad actors (or actresses) in either group. Bitterness is a natural consequence of being raked over the coals by a bad person and an unfair system.

Learn, be cautious, protect yourself, yes. There are psychos of both sexes. Do not withdraw from participation in all of the good that life has to offer. Don't feed bitterness.

That is all I have to say on this matter.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 01:21 AM (tHwdc)

496 Funny guy. I've been craving twinkies. Haven't had one for years. May be a throwback to by childhood. YUUUGE treat.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:25 AM (uKRys)

497 I wasn't there for the entire shit flinging fiesta but Miley you're alright in my book too.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:26 AM (nDcc3)

498 *unstatic*

Okay... I'm listening to U2 on KOOL 105.5 FM. Sunday, Bloody Sunday.

http://kool1055fm.com/

For those of you who hate U2? I'll give you my address and we'll either have a beer or seven -or- you can use the Front Lawn for Tryin' to Give Me the What-For.

Now Donna Summer is singing "Hot Stuff" and I'm just fine with that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:26 AM (6gk0M)

499 Miley, you are a gem!

Guess I'm talking to myself tonight.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:27 AM (uKRys)

500 Heh sometimes I try Infidel.

Enjoy life.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:27 AM (nDcc3)

501 I knew you "got it", Miley. I am worried about Bebe's because she can drag a dude's nuts across a fire-pit with ease.

...by the hair.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:28 AM (6gk0M)

502
Guess I'm talking to myself tonight.
Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:27 AM (uKRys)


I'm around... sort of. Writing up a report for my econometrics class tomorrow night. What do you want to talk about?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 01:29 AM (Tnhbr)

503 Slap we got KOOL 108 which plays shit before my time but there are stretches where it plays absolute fire. Right now I'm listening to I Want You by Alison Wonderland.

I cannot play this song enough, it's a few years old but it's the theme song to NBA 2K17 and that pretty much put it on the map for me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:29 AM (nDcc3)

504 Funny guy. I've been craving twinkies. Haven't had one for years. May be a throwback to by childhood. YUUUGE treat.

As an aside: Hostess is now owned by "Bimbo". Which makes Twinkie the Kid something like a male prostitute.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 01:29 AM (IcT7t)

505 She doesn't "scare me", but she scares me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:30 AM (6gk0M)

506 I try thathalfrican.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:30 AM (uKRys)

507 ..."I cannot play this song enough, it's a few years old but it's the theme song to NBA 2K17 and that pretty much put it on the map for me."
-Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:29 AM (nDcc3)

*HAH!*

I own three video game soundtracks. Shit gets in your head and you need to JAM.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:31 AM (6gk0M)

508 Slap then you understand the need for the songs then haha. I had the same feeling with Little Brothers "Carolina Agents". Another NBA 2k track from years back which to this day is STILL fire.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:33 AM (nDcc3)

509 "Take the Money and Run" is the only song that is allowed to "rhyme" "Justice" and "Taxes".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:34 AM (6gk0M)

510 Colorado Alex, I think I need help with my resume. I have been told it's fine, but I am not having any luck. The job market has changed so much since I last looked for a job. I also think I may need a 'dumbed down' version. The job market here sucks. Guess I need a reviewer with an unbiased opinion.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:34 AM (uKRys)

511 I'ma look that up, thathalfrican.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:34 AM (6gk0M)

512 1962- "whatever happened to baby jane"

1962- marilyn monroe died

1972 veronica hamel bought monroe's last home and had it remodeled. they found bugging equipment extensively installed throughout the house, equipment available only to govt. agencies at the time. it took $100,000 to remove it all.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 27, 2017 01:35 AM (WTSFk)

513 Oh and Infidel, glad to hear it!

Life is much easier when you got that iced glass lemonade in the shade disposition.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:36 AM (nDcc3)

514 (...and yes, joan crawford did seduce monroe and went down on her.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 27, 2017 01:36 AM (WTSFk)

515 Slap, fair warning you might not dig either song.

One is some weird mix of trap, electro, hiphop and the other is straight hiphop.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:37 AM (nDcc3)

516 That looks like a Carolina Panthers tune, thathalfrican. I'ma Jam it now.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:38 AM (6gk0M)

517 Life is much easier when you got that iced glass lemonade in the shade disposition.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:36 AM (nDcc3)

oooooh, that reminds me, I have a yummy lemonade recipe. Thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:38 AM (uKRys)

518 Something on the main page?

I keep getting the PITA Please Rotate your Screen BS.

Can someone see if something is wrong?

Posted by: rd at March 27, 2017 01:39 AM (iT57s)

519 Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:38 AM (uKRys)

Anything to help

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:41 AM (nDcc3)

520 The background sounds like 1980's ABC Movie Of The Week with 'Nigggas Be Comin' lyrics... LOL

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:41 AM (6gk0M)

521 I added the extra "g" for "Get Some".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:42 AM (6gk0M)

522 I have no idea what that means Slap but that shit made me laugh.

*throws the headphones back on*

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:43 AM (nDcc3)

523 That was a 'relaxin'-ass' little ride, thathalfrican.

How far back do you go, amigo?

Do you know "Don't Want to Fall in Love", by Jane Child?

You might want to look that up.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:45 AM (6gk0M)

524 I'm an 80s baby Slap.

I'll give that joint a listen too.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:46 AM (nDcc3)

525 Right-on, Good Sir.

Pasted for your perusal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWd__w5UWVc

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:50 AM (6gk0M)

526 *sigh*

And I'm back. Damn those evening naps.

-----------------

Colorado Alex, I think I need help with my resume. I
have been told it's fine, but I am not having any luck. The job market
has changed so much since I last looked for a job. I also think I may
need a 'dumbed down' version. The job market here sucks. Guess I need a
reviewer with an unbiased opinion.


Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:34 AM (uKRys)

I've considered leaving college off my resume completely.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 01:50 AM (tHwdc)

527 Oh shit, this Jane Child song I know. Never knew it by name but heard it plenty of times.

Good stuff.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:50 AM (nDcc3)

528 That broad is hot, but she's got that chain from her nose to whatever. I would've walked away. I was eighteen and intimidated by chicks with long chains from their nose to whatever.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:51 AM (6gk0M)

529 I actually look at people who didn't goto college better than those who did.

Sans those who went for the hard sciences and such.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:52 AM (nDcc3)

530 The Horde ain't about Soul 2 Soul, but I grew up with that shit, man. I can Roll Out The Barrels with the Pollocks and Rock a Rhyme that's Right on Time.

...It's Tricky.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:54 AM (6gk0M)

531 I actually look at people who didn't goto college better than those who did.

Sans those who went for the hard sciences and such.


Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:52 AM (nDcc3)

There you go. I wondered if I would get fired for misrepresenting myself as not college-educated, should they find out somehow.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 01:54 AM (tHwdc)

532
I've considered leaving college off my resume completely.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 01:50 AM (tHwdc)

That may be my next option. Overqualified. Had the same job for 11+ years and a part-time job for 10 during the same time.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:55 AM (uKRys)

533 My Buddies paid for College and they're just as stupid as I am.

...and I'm an idiot.

...ask anyone. ...lol

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:56 AM (6gk0M)

534 Infidel, I'm probably the worst person to ask, unfortunately. My last job, my resume wasn't important. According to my boss, he hired me based on input from people who knew me. (Who? I'm not sure. I'm surprised that he found people who spoke well of me. People who know me for any length of time conclude that I'm an asshole.)

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 01:56 AM (Tnhbr)

535 I actually put my last post about college inelegantly; even those who did go for the hard sciences doesn't mean they're brighter or have more wisdom than those who didn't.

It's just that the chance of them being ruined by shitty leftist ideology is less than those who went for queer studies or some such.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:57 AM (nDcc3)

536 Slap LOL, might be tricky but it's always a good time.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 01:58 AM (nDcc3)

537 My problem is that I have a bunch of schooling in one skill set, but no experience in it due to the needs of the Army. So when they want "five years of experience..." I'm fucked. So here I am back in school, trying to expand my horizons.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 01:58 AM (Tnhbr)

538 Oh, I got it. I watch these guys here every day and they astound me.

"All you need to do is knock-off one Hydrogen molecule and you've loosened the bond. No more Water!"

"The hardest gas to dissolve into beer is Helium, so the High-Pitch Beer is impossible".

Fucking scientists and shit. These people are brilliant because they studied it. I just eat vapors and try to gather what they leave behind.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:02 AM (6gk0M)

539 One more replay and then some John Abercrombie and then off to bed, which I should have been in an hour and a half ago.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 02:05 AM (nDcc3)

540 That may be my next option. Overqualified. Had the same job for 11+ years and a part-time job for 10 during the same time.


Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 01:55 AM (uKRys)

I started at my last job as a temp, then worked at other temp jobs for 180 days so I could return and try to get hired permanently. They hired me after a month. I didn't even fill out an application. They had no idea I'd even gone to college.

I was there for 9 years Problem is, I don't have a classification. It was a specialized thing and my value accrued over the years. Got laid off a few days before I turned 61.

And now I'm thinking, yeah, for jobs that only specify high school/GED, I should have a second non-college resume.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:07 AM (tHwdc)

541 I've told The Horde:

"I'm not that smart. I simply know how to spell things correctly."

They choose to listen to me, anyway.

I guess if I can't be informative through knowledge, I should link articles through my RSS Feed and say funny stuff.

...which is how I have survived this place.

Oh... and Praying for people because the least I can do is get down on my knees and thank God for what I have been given; while asking Grace for those who have shown me Love.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:07 AM (6gk0M)

542
And now I'm thinking, yeah, for jobs that only specify high school/GED, I should have a second non-college resume.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:07 AM (tHwdc)

Yep, and the age. I may be having that problem. I'm at the point I may have to flip burgers.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 02:11 AM (uKRys)

543 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2017 02:11 AM (IcT7t)

544 Infidel and Miley, yall strike me as good, smart non-assholish people.

You'll find work, I think, especially in the age of Trump.

That's my hope.

Posted by: thathalfrican - wandering thru Alison's Wonderland at March 27, 2017 02:12 AM (nDcc3)

545 Yep, and the age. I may be having that problem. I'm at the point I may have to flip burgers.


Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 02:11 AM (uKRys)

I don't think I can even get hired as a burger-flipper. I'm doing contract work now for what may soon become minimum wage. Dread having to pay the Obamacare penalty for 2016 when I do my taxes, since the shitweasel GOPes haven't even been able to get rid of that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:13 AM (tHwdc)

546 Miley, I thought there was an EO to eliminate the penalty? I am already going to take a hit for taxes on UI.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 02:16 AM (uKRys)

547 If there was an EO, that's a blessing. Yes to the hit on taxes vis a vis UI. Odd that they offer you the option to not have it taxed. But I need every penny to cover rent.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:18 AM (tHwdc)

548 Stormy tonight, like April couldn't wait.

March came in all ovine,
and is closing all leonine.
It's a topsy-turvy world.
Myanmar Shave

Howdy, up-late hordelings. Just passing by on my way to passing out.

Posted by: mindful webworker - am I here yet? am I here yet? at March 27, 2017 02:20 AM (b2Qci)

549 Passing out sounds good. I'm working on that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:21 AM (tHwdc)

550 Dread having to pay the Obamacare penalty for 2016 when I do my taxes, since the shitweasel GOPes haven't even been able to get rid of that.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:13 AM (tHwdc)

I thought the penalty mandate was eliminated.

Even if it hasn't, you could check the box anyways. I'll admit I did it for '14 even though I didn't have insurance the whole year.

I could of course be wrong, but IMHO the odds of them catching up with that are none and none. It was my little act of rebellion against our tyrannical government at the time.

Yeah I know that's against the law. I don't care.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 27, 2017 02:21 AM (D2vc1)

551 Someone sent me some tastefully-written porn. I may have to return to that. It puts me to sleep, at least.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:23 AM (tHwdc)

552 >Dread having to pay the Obamacare penalty for 2016 when I do my taxes,

So don't pay the Obamacare Tax. Just ignore it, as Trump's E.O. to the IRS instructed them.

Per professional advice of Independent Tax Preparers Union, 2017.

Go on, live on the edge this year! I filed so this way, and it feeelz wondeful!

Posted by: crude old moron, drunk 'n horny at March 27, 2017 02:24 AM (uz/Pv)

553 Yeah I know that's against the law. I don't care.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 27, 2017 02:21 AM (D2vc1)

They require forms for that shit now.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:24 AM (tHwdc)

554 Yeah I know that's against the law. I don't care.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 27, 2017 02:21 AM (D2vc1)

They require forms for that shit now.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:24 AM (tHwdc)

Far as I know, you're not required to file anything with your return, at least the 1095. Unless there's some other form I'm not aware of.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 27, 2017 02:27 AM (D2vc1)

555 G'Night, Blanco.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:28 AM (6gk0M)

556 I grew-up on Seventies Pop/Rock and Country while Mom had everything from Motown on vinyl. Including Elvis. Much Elvis. Blue Elvis. All Elvis. It borderlined on abuse.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:30 AM (6gk0M)

557 I got to listen to my own shit in the Eighties and I tended toward Top 40 and Run DMC because I was a kid from the suburbs who "Wanted to be Down".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:31 AM (6gk0M)

558 Casey Kasem spoke The Hits and I just went along for The Ride. Never in my life did I hear anything funnier than the first time Casey had to say, N.W.A.

It became "N.W.A." shortly thereafter.

(I was rejected as Spam for the Group Name, but Casey Said It... LOL)

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:35 AM (6gk0M)

559 This is "skimpy"? Not in my book.

Nasty mood all day.Disturbed about Trump's comments re. Freedom Caucus and support of Paul Ryan and the bill. Not overly impressed that he thinks we should wait for Obamacare to collapse or explode. There's a whole lot of hurt for a whole lot of people in that wait. Anyway .

Don't want to get all political. Also disturbed because I didn't have time to read the Sunday Book Thread, and can't stand helicopter parents. Also, I can't imagine why a parent thinks their 8 year old needs an iphone 7 and hurries to replace it when the kid loses it. Who would thunk it? An 8 year old kid of today's generation loses a $700 phone and Mommy rushes to replace it. Saw this at work today.

Not going to spoil the evening. I will lurk. Thanks for enduring the rant.

Posted by: gracepmc at March 27, 2017 02:35 AM (OU4q6)

560 Miley: Someone sent me some tastefully-written porn.

She offered her honor.

He honored her offer.

So all night long he was on her and off her and on her and off her.

(Best I could do on short notice & all considered.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - tastefully at March 27, 2017 02:36 AM (b2Qci)

561 Then I grew my hair long and rode Heavy Metal from 1986-Today.

I couldn't play a guitar or a piano yesterday, nor today. I Soul-Wish I could. I can keep a beat, but that has gotten me a tanning salon and a pressure-washing gig.

Not one drum to be found.

I'll listen to anything once. I'll even give it a second-chance. By the third time? If I hate the falsetto faggotry that Neil Young puts forth?

Fuck him and his shitty political views.

But you give me a good beat and a great tune and I'll excuse Green Day and their bullshit all the way to the moon.

I'll sing Cindi Lauper's "True Colors" until you call me a fag and we get out into the Yard.

*spits on hands*

Let's Go. I don't give a shit. I'm getting too old to think things are "cool".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:36 AM (6gk0M)

562 Hey...didn't I send you a How-To manual for building your own?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2017 12:32 AM (ZO497)

I'm fresh out of 3/4" steel plate, and half-inch 7018 welding rods, LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 02:38 AM (WDdjT)

563 "She offered her honor.

He honored her offer.

So all night long he was on her and off her and on her and off her.
"

(Best I could do on short notice & all considered.)
-Posted by: mindful webworker - tastefully at March 27, 2017 02:36 AM (b2Qci)

Ben Roethlisberger could simplify that, I'm quite sure.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:40 AM (6gk0M)

564 "Someone sent me some tastefully-written porn. "


These words make no sense in this order.

Posted by: OXY Moron at March 27, 2017 02:41 AM (hYjJg)

565 One Thing?

I won't leave Bon Jovi on, unless it is "Wanted Dead or Alive".

I'll scrap the rest for pride.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:43 AM (6gk0M)

566 Yeah I'm job hunting as well. My GI bill is on a 2 month hiatus and I'm hurting for money. I have more than a year left to get my degree, and I need to be working during that time.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 27, 2017 02:44 AM (VdICR)

567 These words make no sense in this order.

Posted by: OXY Moron at March 27, 2017 02:41 AM (hYjJg)


I think that's where the plumber wipes his dick off using a napkin rather than her dress.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 02:45 AM (Tnhbr)

568 "Her" meaning the housewife, not Miley.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 27, 2017 02:45 AM (Tnhbr)

569 "Take the Money and Run" is the only song that is allowed to "rhyme" "Justice" and "Taxes".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 01:34 AM (6gk0M)

Actually, the rhyme is "facts is" and "taxes".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 02:46 AM (WDdjT)

570 Prager is one of my favorite people. I'm agnostic, and I would recommend him to anyone.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 27, 2017 02:46 AM (VdICR)

571 The Horde wants Tastefully Written Porn?

Roger That...

I was vacationing in Florida's panhandle for the first time. I had just turned twenty-one. My friends and I had gathered our towels and we were "on the prowl".

When I first noticed the beautiful older woman looking at me, I paid no mind. The second time was too much for me to handle...

BOW-CHICKA-WOW-WOW!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:48 AM (6gk0M)

572 Slapweasel: Praying for people because the least I can do is get down on my knees and thank God for what I have been given; while asking Grace for those who have shown me Love.

From a sidebar box on BluebirdOfBitterness.com:

Were there no God, we would be in this glorious world with grateful hearts and no one to thank.
--Christina Rossetti

Posted by: mindful webworker - praying help! thanks! help! thanks! help! thanks! at March 27, 2017 02:48 AM (b2Qci)

573 564
"Someone sent me some tastefully-written porn. "

That's the kind with two minutes of foreplay.

As a side note, no one ever sends me porn, tasteful or otherwise.

A simple subscription to Penthouse wood have been nice.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 27, 2017 02:49 AM (0rHf9)

574 Here's a bat that is eating fruit for the first time.

https://youtu.be/PZCaZWlYvmU

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 27, 2017 02:49 AM (VdICR)

575 Colorado Alex #568: "Her" meaning the housewife, not Miley.

Nice almost-save there, CA.

Posted by: mindful webworker - missed it by thatmuch! at March 27, 2017 02:50 AM (b2Qci)

576 "Actually, the rhyme is "facts is" and "taxes"."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 02:46 AM (WDdjT)

Actually, you should listen to the song.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:51 AM (6gk0M)

577 It is "Texas" and "Facts is".

The next line?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:52 AM (6gk0M)

578 Here you are, Good Sir!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:53 AM (6gk0M)

579 Here's a bat that is eating fruit for the first time.

https://youtu.be/PZCaZWlYvmU

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 27, 2017 02:49 AM (VdICR)

Little sucker is cute. Makes squirrel-like noises.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 02:53 AM (WDdjT)

580 "Someone sent me some tastefully-written porn. "

That's the kind with two minutes of foreplay.

As a side note, no one ever sends me porn, tasteful or otherwise.

A simple subscription to Penthouse wood have been nice.


Posted by: GnuBreed at March 27, 2017 02:49 AM (0rHf9)


It's more like 750 pages of the sexual adventures of a widowed Long John Silver. It's almost exhausting to read. So many cries of ecstasy.

I'm still trying to figure out if its written as a how-to for men or hope for women. I know it's designed to make me curious about the author.
Alas, he's an atheist.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:55 AM (tHwdc)

581 I like Boobehs that's the Faxes.

Posted by: OXY Moron at March 27, 2017 02:55 AM (hYjJg)

582 #fruitBatPie

Do you know that every deal of Free Cell is, presumably, winnable?

I had to give it up. I play Yukon instead. About 29-30% winnable.

Posted by: mindful webworker - solitarily at March 27, 2017 02:56 AM (b2Qci)

583 Thankfully my mortgage isn't outrageous.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 02:56 AM (uKRys)

584 I'm going to go ahead and keep being right in my little domain, AOP. You just keep telling me what transmission will not fit in a Dodge Dakota.

*ding!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:58 AM (6gk0M)

585 131
I should try for the intel analyst jobs in the UK or Germany.

You'll be busy.

Posted by: gracepmc at March 27, 2017 02:59 AM (OU4q6)

586 Here you are, Good Sir!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:53 AM (6gk0M)

Yeah, the rhyme scheme is A, B, A, B. Texas, Facts is, Justice, Taxes.

So "Texas" rhymes weakly with "justice", and "facts is" rhymes strongly with "taxes". Best I can do.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:01 AM (WDdjT)

587 Here's another thing I don't know, even though I've fried potatoes since forever.

I cannot tell you the smoke point of olive oil v. butter v. canola oil.

Alberta Oil Peon probably can.

I just go to "five" for two of them.

"Four" for butter.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:03 AM (6gk0M)

588 I'm'a pour oneee morrre l.ittle drinkish heeeeere then bye by ebeeddy-by, right?

* hic *

JUST KIDDING. Sober as a priest on Sunday.

Posted by: mindful webworker - overly dosing at March 27, 2017 03:03 AM (b2Qci)

589 I'm going to go ahead and keep being right in my little domain, AOP. You just keep telling me what transmission will not fit in a Dodge Dakota.

*ding!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 02:58 AM (6gk0M)

Just about any transmission will fit in a Dakota if it has an 8-foot bed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:04 AM (WDdjT)

590 Sorry I missed SMFH earlier!

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 03:04 AM (uKRys)

591 There are "Morons" and then there are morons like me.

I just say stuff and try to either make it funny or true.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:05 AM (6gk0M)

592 I just go to "five" for two of them.

"Four" for butter.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:03 AM (6gk0M)

French fried potatoes? Lard FTW. Yummiest fries, evah.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:05 AM (WDdjT)

593 See? Dude knows his shit and I knew he would.

Because I'm still a lowercase moron.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:05 AM (6gk0M)

594 We lowercase morons can still shine.

*spit-polishes post*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:07 AM (6gk0M)

595 Because I'm still a lowercase moron.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:05 AM (6gk0M)

That's a good way to avoid capital PUN-ishment, Slap.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:07 AM (WDdjT)

596 Only 80 pages left to go.


I'm glad I don't have to write a book report about this.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 03:09 AM (tHwdc)

597 #randomlyBlathering

Slapweasel #591: There are "Morons" and then there are morons like me.

Don't sell yourself short.

You're an absolutely cosmically unique personality.

Just like everybody else.

Posted by: mindful webworker - exponentially at March 27, 2017 03:09 AM (b2Qci)

598 What? I had never courted The Death Penalty, had I?

Listen, Mr. Ninth Circuit... I don't like this game you're playing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:10 AM (6gk0M)

599 Yeah... "Unique", just like everyone else.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:11 AM (6gk0M)

600 You know, it doesn't matter that I've only been up for 9 hours. When it's after 2am and I'm gonna be up all night, that tires me out.

My ambitious plans for hitting the gym after work are gonna end up dying in a sea of yawns.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 27, 2017 03:11 AM (D2vc1)

601 *pokes AOP*

Listen, bub. Justice will never rhyme with Taxes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:12 AM (6gk0M)

602 Well, it may be time to hide under the blankies for an hour or two.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 03:17 AM (uKRys)

603 I'm still trying to figure out if its written as a
how-to for men or hope for women. I know it's designed to make me
curious about the author.
Alas, he's an atheist.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 02:55 AM (tHwdc)

---
there is always litterotica.com....

something for everyone, and free too.

or so i've heard.


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 27, 2017 03:17 AM (TWUAj)

604 He reached beneath the blanket to find the cat toy, but he found a pleasant kitty instead...

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:19 AM (6gk0M)

605 Listen, bub. Justice will never rhyme with Taxes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:12 AM (6gk0M)

"justice" is supposed to rhyme with "Texas". The "iss" sound on the end of each word is the rhyme. Yeah, it is weak. And all four words end in an "ess" or "iss" sound, and have a stressed first syllable. There is a weak rhyme between the two words in each line, and a stronger rhyme between corresponding words in the two lines.

I guess if I were an English Major, I'd know the name for that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:19 AM (WDdjT)

606 #randomlyRiffing

Slapweasel #599: Yeah... "Unique", just like everyone else.

There are those who realize this (individual uniqueness
is not unique) is The Truth, and embrace it. We are all reflections of The One True Source - yay!

There are those who realize this is The Truth and the lack of "specialness" drives them mad. "but... but.. I want to be uniquer than anybody."

(Clue: "uniquer" is oxymoronic.)

The pioneer of madness was Lucifer. Couldn't stand the idea that God might be bigger & better than himself.

Posted by: mindful webworker - expositionally at March 27, 2017 03:20 AM (b2Qci)

607 He arose before she had awoken...

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:20 AM (6gk0M)

608 Alberta Oil Peon: ...There is a weak rhyme between the two words in each line, and a stronger rhyme between corresponding words in the two lines.

I guess if I were an English Major, I'd know the name for that.


No, no you wouldn't.

Posted by: mindful webworker - English Major at March 27, 2017 03:21 AM (b2Qci)

609 "Oh, Uni-Q, I love me, Uni-Q"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:22 AM (WDdjT)

610 ..."I guess if I were an English Major, I'd know the name for that."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:19 AM (WDdjT)

I am an English Major and the qualifying description is: "Does Not Rhyme".

Get back to the rear-end ratios compared to speedometers.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:23 AM (6gk0M)

611 I see Slap is feeling frisky.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2017 03:23 AM (uKRys)

612 The pioneer of madness was Lucifer. Couldn't stand the idea that God might be bigger & better than himself.

Posted by: mindful webworker - expositionally at March 27, 2017 03:20 AM (b2Qci)

That's the nature of pride. Nothing can be bigger or greater than the self.

As I've said before at least a dozen times, Leftist thought is nothing more than the sin of pride wearing the stolen clothes of compassion and benevolence.

In the end, the causes they espouse are merely ornaments worn to flatter the almighty self.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 27, 2017 03:25 AM (J+mig)

613 Lest it be a front-end driven automobile, I suppose.

...but I'd be guessing and pounding square pegs into round holes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:25 AM (6gk0M)

614 *shakes-off excess moisture*

*rolls in the grass*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:27 AM (6gk0M)

615 there is always litterotica.com....

something for everyone, and free too.

or so i've heard.




Posted by: redc1c4 at March 27, 2017 03:17 AM (TWUAj)

To be clear, Heartless, I did not seek this out. I've been asked for feedback. So at this point it's a challenge that I've accepted, as it were.
He's an excellent writer. I've read my share of ladyporn back in the
day, and he handles language very well. None of that "throbbing member"
crap. More explicit without being utterly raunchy. It is written by a
man, from a man's perspective.
Yes, it's arousing. No, I'm not interested in having my goodies being manipulated by a stranger, no matter how adept he may be. And I also realize that this is going to be interpreted as playing hard to get, and he's only going to become more intrigued.

And now I've realized that this is only Book 1 and there are another 250-odd pages in Book 2. Gah.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 03:27 AM (tHwdc)

616 What, what?
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2017 03:28 AM (GPaiX)

617 *sneeze*

*sneeze*

*sneeze*

*goes belly-up in bed*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:28 AM (6gk0M)

618
This is "skimpy"? Not in my book.

Nasty mood all day.Disturbed
about Trump's comments re. Freedom Caucus and support of Paul Ryan and
the bill. Not overly impressed that he thinks we should wait for
Obamacare to collapse or explode. There's a whole lot of hurt for a
whole lot of people in that wait. Anyway .

Don't want to get all
political. Also disturbed because I didn't have time to read the Sunday
Book Thread, and can't stand helicopter parents. Also, I can't imagine
why a parent thinks their 8 year old needs an iphone 7 and hurries to
replace it when the kid loses it. Who would thunk it? An 8 year old kid
of today's generation loses a $700 phone and Mommy rushes to replace it.
Saw this at work today.

Not going to spoil the evening. I will lurk. Thanks for enduring the rant.


Posted by: gracepmc at March 27, 2017 02:35 AM (OU4q6)

I too was disturbed by that. I chalk it up to him taking it as a personal insult that they would vote for that crappy bill just because he ordered them to. Kinda stupid of him to get mad that they were voting the way they told their voters they would and even more stupid that he would ever trust Ryan.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 27, 2017 03:29 AM (FTXAT)

619 Here you go: "internal rhyme":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_rhyme

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:29 AM (WDdjT)

620 Cato #612: ...In the end, the causes they espouse are merely ornaments worn to flatter the almighty self.

I think the current term is virtue signaling.

AND THUS, having maxed my limits, I fade....

fade...

...

Posted by: mindful webworker - fading fast at March 27, 2017 03:29 AM (b2Qci)

621 I guess if I were an English Major, I'd know the name for that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:19 AM (WDdjT)

Near rhyme https://literarydevices.net/rhyme/

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 03:32 AM (tHwdc)

622 That's the nature of pride. Nothing can be bigger or greater than the self.



As I've said before at least a dozen times, Leftist thought is
nothing more than the sin of pride wearing the stolen clothes of
compassion and benevolence.



In the end, the causes they espouse are merely ornaments worn to flatter the almighty self.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 27, 2017 03:25 AM (J+mig)

Beautifully expressed. Truth is beauty, beauty is truth.
<returns to porn>

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 03:35 AM (tHwdc)

623 A limerick, of course, is an infernal rhyme, unless it is very, very filthy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:37 AM (WDdjT)

624 * aliens must register television promo *

* national anthem with jets flying over capitol *

* prayer by Rev Billy Graham *

* zzzzz *

Posted by: mindful webworker - in 1956 at March 27, 2017 03:38 AM (b2Qci)

625 "Two Escape"
-and-
"Other People's"

...with the "internal rhyme".

The shovel need to be placed upon the deck, in accordance with rule 101.01:

"A Goofball who tries to prove 'His Truth' shall be placed upon administrative leave for No Longer a duration than Seven Days and No Shorter a duration than said idiot believes is necessary."

I don't like the Code, but I just wrote it. And that needs to change.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:39 AM (6gk0M)

626 Now this guy can spin a rhyme, and an outlaw ballad, too. Richard Thompson, 1952 Vincent Black Lightning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 03:44 AM (WDdjT)

627 There are plenty of other Codes that some idiot can write at the drop of a hat.

We're all going to have to form a coalition against such spontaneous idiocy.

Fight The Code, Brothers!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:46 AM (6gk0M)

628 How does that work at the in person interview?


Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 10:55 PM (uKRys)

Ask Rachel what's her name . The white chick who passed for black despite what she looked like. Also, there are so many varieties on these applications now. And look at Elizabeth Warren -- she be American Indian. It's doable.Have a friend who got a scholarship to Duke years ago on the basis that he was American Indian. He had just found out. It was a minuscule amount of heritage. Didn't look one bit AI -- tall, geeky, lanky, with reddish hair.
Just lost my PT job and seriously thinking of doing it on one or two online job apps . Curious.


Posted by: gracepmc at March 27, 2017 03:48 AM (OU4q6)

629 Just lost my PT job and seriously thinking of doing it on one or two online job apps . Curious.




Posted by: gracepmc at March 27, 2017 03:48 AM (OU4q6)

They really do invite it, don't they?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 03:50 AM (tHwdc)

630 I just wrote a Code against 1950's Thompsons.

You can't do that here.

Not anymore, really.

Lightning and Black are dangerous. I just wrote another Code against them because Hispanic farmers can't cultivate along dangerous Black Electric Lines.

I'm going to stop you.

I've got at least three more Codes this morning.

They'll be passed because we're "racist" against Canadians.

Stop the Syrup-Eating, False-Baconers.

SSEFB isn't "catchy", but it is Flush, True, Plumb and Level.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 03:54 AM (6gk0M)

631 My fight against the Arizonan Canadian has nothing to do with any of you.

I'll take... *trips over box*

I've Got This. Nobody who is Montana's Syrup-Hat has a chance against... *steps over children*

This guy with his... *walks around nesting loonies*

...with his Geese and Molecular Mass of whatever is...

What were you, again?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 04:01 AM (6gk0M)

632 I think he likes oil, but I do too.

*Rolls 1d20*

Sorry. Fireball. Make a Saving Throw versus conflagration.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 04:04 AM (6gk0M)

633 Yes, it's arousing. No, I'm not interested in having my goodies being
manipulated by a stranger, no matter how adept he may be. And I also
realize that this is going to be interpreted as playing hard to get, and
he's only going to become more intrigued.
---
do tell...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 27, 2017 04:05 AM (TWUAj)

634 They really do invite it, don't they?


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 03:50 AM (tHwdc)
Indeed they do. And I don't know if you have looked at any of the applications ethnic whatever listings lately, but they keep adding to them. Although I have yet to see White Hispanic -- one time only category I think for George Zimmerman, But hey it can be documented, so I could go Hispanic. I speak some Italian and if I slur it -- that's gotta be a speech impediment of some sort which becomes -- TaDa -- a speech impediment, which of course, is a disability -- which you also can list. All of this is doable.

Posted by: gracepmc at March 27, 2017 04:07 AM (OU4q6)

635 Well, I am overdue for the rack. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2017 04:14 AM (WDdjT)

636 do tell...


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 27, 2017 04:05 AM (TWUAj)

Nope. I can tell he enjoys breaking down resistance and I imagine he's very good at it. Nothing makes me more resistant than a man like that.

The man to follow my dear departed is going to have to be exceptional. A bag of sex tricks ain't gonna cut it.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 04:16 AM (tHwdc)

637 well, i should prolly go to sleep: tomorrow will be a new day in the latest thriller to grace my life.

Your Thyroid gland... unnoticed companion or deadly threat?

who needs a book thread?

hasta y'all!

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 27, 2017 04:17 AM (TWUAj)

638 I get goofy at times, but if I ever see anyone filming that "Feed the Pig" advertisement around here?

I'm going to "Free Safety" that pig so hard that you won't hear from me for awhile.

I will Ronnie Lott my finger to get a shot at that fake government swine.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 04:17 AM (6gk0M)

639 *folds*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 27, 2017 04:17 AM (6gk0M)

640 <prods thread>



The thread's dead, Zed.


Off to sleep...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 27, 2017 04:46 AM (tHwdc)

641 *plays trumpet*

"ALRIGHT YOU MAGGOTS!" Get your asses out of the rack! And someone start the coffee.

Gah! It's Monday already. :-/

Posted by: Bayou City at March 27, 2017 05:38 AM (uHFrd)

642 Just opening a news site, they had a survey asking if Chelsea Clinton deserved the Life Time Achievement Award. Only 9 percent so far thinks she does. People just don't recognize a great person do they...

Posted by: Colin at March 27, 2017 05:42 AM (odQZE)

643 "ALRIGHT YOU MAGGOTS!" Get your asses out of the rack! And someone start the coffee.

Gah! It's Monday already. :-/



Posted by: Bayou City at March 27, 2017 05:38 AM (uHFrd)

Gah, you sound just like Sgt Simmons during basic training, when I hated getting up,

Posted by: Colin at March 27, 2017 05:51 AM (odQZE)

644 There's no morning thread yet, so good morning, guys and dolls. I hope you have a great day.

I'm screwed.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 27, 2017 05:51 AM (G8B7r)

645 So future prez Chelsea saw a picture/drawing of Lincoln with a red MAGA hat and tweeted "please tell me this is photoshopped. Please?"

many good replies, like "nope, he was wearing that exact hat at the theater"

From "wiped it, like with a cloth" liar Mom to dumb as dirt daughter.

Of course Lincoln came over on the Mayflower, and the MAGA hat was not invented till the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2017 05:52 AM (BrMft)

646 I'm screwed.

Posted by: NaughtyPine

That could either be bad, OR good.

Posted by: Bruce at March 27, 2017 05:54 AM (8ikIW)

647 Future Prez Chelsea Clinton.?...I'd hope she would at least start being a Senator first...I think being a Congresswomen is beneath her station in life. After all her mother went from First Lady to Senator...

Posted by: Colin at March 27, 2017 06:01 AM (odQZE)

648 AOL news last night had the shocking story (as they called it) that Ivana Trump and the President sleep in separate bedrooms...I don't see the story this am, so far. AOL news, another trusted news site.../sarc

Posted by: Colin at March 27, 2017 06:04 AM (odQZE)

649 646 That could either be bad, OR good.
Posted by: Bruce at March 27, 2017 05:54 AM (

Bad. I was sick for a couple weeks and the paperwork just piled up.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 27, 2017 06:07 AM (G8B7r)

650 Bad. I was sick for a couple weeks and the paperwork just piled up.





Posted by: NaughtyPine

That's bad bad. The same would happen to me. Long sick days or a vacation, the bare minimum of my job would be done. Then it would take a week just to get it straightened out.
Best of luck on this bad day.

Posted by: Bruce at March 27, 2017 06:13 AM (8ikIW)

651 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 27, 2017 06:15 AM (u82oZ)

652 I went from a job where I took vacation days to go into work and be productive with my docket, to no paperwork besides signing my name. Life is good.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 27, 2017 06:17 AM (u82oZ)

653 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2017 06:17 AM (J+eG2)

654 In the midst of getting our guest bathroom updated. The great part is, in a 80 year old house, it's plumbing problems galore. It's a good thing we got it done though. It would have not been to long before some of the drain lines would have given out.

Posted by: Bruce at March 27, 2017 06:19 AM (8ikIW)

Helicopter Parents and the End of Childhood Freedom [Warden]

I found this 2014 Atlantic article, The Overprotected Kid, and found myself nodding vigorously at the astonishing difference between my childhood and those that my kids are living.

Admittedly, I was parented by insanely libertarian minded parents who figured that any day I didn't come home maimed was pretty much a win. Even for the standards of the 70's, my brother and I were given so much latitude that our parents were the black sheep of the neighborhood.

There are things I did that I'd never allow my kids to do. My parents were extreme, bordering on neglectful at times. For example, my mom never bothered buying us snow boots even though she could afford to. Nope, sneakers were fine for running around in the snow. Gloves and a hat were optional as well, even on subzero days. I never owned a scarf until my wife bought me one ten years ago. I remain baffled that anyone who doesn't work in life threateningly cold weather would think one a necessity.

Despite this, I think my childhood was far more enjoyable, adventuresome and healthy than that of my children. And I feel guilty about this. I'm the parent, after all. On the other hand, our current culture makes it nearly impossible, legally, socially, and practically, to expose my kids to the same level of risk and freedom that I enjoyed.

Looking back, my parents had it pretty damned easy. By the time I was 8 years old, I would ride my bike a mile and a half to the pool in the summer when it opened and not return until close to dinner. At least half of those evenings, I would rush outside to play with friends right after eating. Mom literally saw me for an hour or two a day.

The sound of children was a constant in my old neighborhood. Kids were everywhere outside, playing sports, racing bikes, chasing each other through back yards. Today, in a suburban neighborhood packed with kids, you can't find a single one outside on most weekends. Even if I wanted to encourage my kids to disappear for a few hours, there's no one for them to run around with.

I'm both saddened and chagrined at the fact that neither of my boys, ages 5 and 10, have every climbed a tree, went creek walking or ran the neighborhood past dark. They've never played kick the can, toilet papered a house or swam in a pond.

I'm sensitive to the damage a sheltered life can cause, and I do my best to foster independence where I can. For example, when I take my 5 year old to the supermarket, I let him roam about the store eating sample and searching the discount fruit bin for good deals while talking to employees and sometimes strangers.

This never fails to cause some well-meaning adult to inform me that I've lost my kid. "No," I tell them. "he knows where to find me." I usually receive disapproving looks. I wonder what they'd think of my mom, who'd let my brother and I wander off into the toy aisle while she grocery shopped in peace, tasking us with the responsibility to catch up with her at the checkout line when she was finished. They'd likely call the cops on her today.

It seems that no matter what I do to give my kids more freedom, I'm stymied by other adults. I used to walk my little one into preschool, open the locked, coded door for him, then kiss him goodbye. It was then up to him to hang his coat, fish his folder out of his backpack, wash his hands and make his way into class.

That is, it was up to him until a couple of months ago when one of his teachers got upset after finding him "wandering the hallway alone" and asked that I escort him into class. "Otherwise," she said, "we could get into trouble."

And so my 5 year old had even that small bit of freedom yanked from him. I'm annoyed, but I don't blame the preschool. Everyone is terrified of being sued.

Even my wife got into the game this past week, freaking out that I left the two boys alone at laser tag for an hour while I went next door for a beer. It was deliberate. I could've gotten a beer inside the laser tag place if I'd wanted to, but I chose to get out of their space. My wife thought this was irresponsible. She's wrong. A 10 year old can look after a 5 year old for an hour in a public place.

And so, I continue to fight a desperate and pathetic rear guard action against overwhelming cultural forces. I'll give my kids a few bucks at a sporting event and let them go find the concession stand (and their way back) on their own. I leave them alone at home while I run errands on the weekend. I have my older son cook breakfast for the younger one once or twice a week.

It all seems so inadequate. I can't win and we can't go back to a different time--one without smart phones, organized sports starting at 4 years old, and a pile of rules and regulations for ever conceivable situation. It makes me sad.

Perhaps I'm someone who just can't let go of things. I have dozens of childhood stories of adventure, mischief, recklessness, foolishness and bravery---hours of planning, exploring, competing, fighting, cooperating, exploring, failing and achieving-- all outside the oversight of our parents. I wonder... what childhood stories will my boys tell?

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1 That essay mirrors my thoughts. Thanks.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (Jcrm4)

2 There are things I did that I'd never allow my kids to do.

Not me. I would want them to do everything I did.

Explore.

Learn.

Fix.

Fuck up.

Dust yourself off.

Do it again.

Build it. Break it. Repair it.

LEARN.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (rxiJx)

3 When I was 8 I had to navigate busy city streets and city buses to get to school. Had a morning paper route when I was 10 -- a real small business

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (8RTTd)

4 why did I just get a "Windows Driver Support" optimizer page replace the Ace page?

as the Big Guy would say... Bad! (why I stopped visiting weaselzippers)

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 07:58 PM (b7fwp)

5 Your kid's school is a little dramatic; my 5 year old daughter's teachers won't let me walk her to class when I take her.

I'm torn between not wanting to smother my kids and my innate paranoia as a cop. I'm also a father to two young girls, which means I'm going to be overprotective until they're emotional teenage girls and then I'm going to Iraq until they're 18.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 26, 2017 07:59 PM (HL3BI)

6 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh? Haters!!1!

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (8fypK)

7 These fuckers at Shitty Minutes are incorrigible.

*clicks back to Bob's Burgers*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:02 PM (6gk0M)

8 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh?

Sorry. In no way, shape, or form ... care. In the least.

Sorry.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at March 26, 2017 08:02 PM (rxiJx)

9 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh? Haters!!1!

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (8fypK)



Those aren't the kind of lesbians I enjoy watching

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 08:02 PM (auHtY)

10 I agree completely. My brother and I did all the stuff you did, and I think that was the most important part of our childhood.

But I think my wife and I are probably going to be part of the problem here anyway. In fact, I would bet that most middle-class parents agree that kids should have more unsupervised time, but they just can't bring themselves to let the kids run loose.

(I do not see the same issue with what you'd call "poor" families. Maybe the real difference is just that we were poor growing up.)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 26, 2017 08:03 PM (OVUYQ)

11 reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes strip: Calvin notes that his clothes are torn and full of grass and mud stains, he's covered in bug bites and scratches, he has all kinds of stuff stuck in his hair... and says something like "I'd call this day conquered!"

maybe playing in dirt all day when I was a kid and had the opportunity explains why I'm not allergic to anything.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:03 PM (b7fwp)

12 You should get your kids some tampons. You've seen the commercials - they can go swimming, horseback riding, play tennis...

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 08:04 PM (ANIFC)

13 Warden, I enjoy these family-related posts. They let people vent and realize their families aren't unique.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:04 PM (5p/Pr)

14 re 6: not until they let men who identify as women play in the league, that's why.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:04 PM (b7fwp)

15 I stayed indoors most of the time as a kid, but that was because I would get beat up & bullied by the neighborhood yutes.

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 08:06 PM (ANIFC)

16 Man this hits home.

I grew up in a Denver suburb, but WAY out in the sticks, up north. And because of my family situation, I was left to my own devices a fair amount of time. That, along with the spread out nature of where I was, meant I had to become self sufficient pretty quick.

So yep, at age 8-9 I was riding my bike just like Warden, all over. If I didn't, I'd be stuck in the house. And to give you a sense of how times have changed...no bike lanes. To get where I needed to go, I'd ride my bike on the shoulder of Federal Boulevard (a four lane 50mph thoroughfare) some miles to the nearest grocery store where I'd meet up with friends.

Today, like Warden, I can't imagine kids doing such things. Something happened. Even something as simple as walking to school is now frowned upon...I learned that students in elementary or middle school in this district MUST either take the bus or get dropped off, even if they live a block away.

Sigh. Whatever changed, we are the poorer for it.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 08:06 PM (2VN2E)

17 I've thought about this a lot. I could never offer my kids the childhood my parents gave me. I think it's a big reason why there won't be any kids for me.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 08:06 PM (ZIFyZ)

18 Trump says he's open to dealing with Dems on tax reform and other big ticket items.

Fuck.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 08:06 PM (vsYKI)

19 maybe playing in dirt all day when I was a kid and had the opportunity explains why I'm not allergic to anything.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:03 PM (b7fwp)


There must be something to that. We played in the dirt, all childhood and most of high school long, and no one I knew had any allergies.

None.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at March 26, 2017 08:06 PM (rxiJx)

20 A couple of years back we camped at Prince Gallitzin State Park in PA.

We took the chirruns, and we gave them their bikes and when to return if they wanted to eat, and to return when it was dark. We were able to let them go, completely. Other campers were doing the same.

It was fantastic. It should always be thus.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:07 PM (HV1LS)

21 "So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh?"

Here's my attitude:

I see a scroll along the bottom of a screen and I see that one team has upset another and I ask myself, "How The Fuck?!?"

...Then I see the NCAA(W) "qualifier" and I Get Pissed.

Because Fuck Title IX and everything it
bled into, like a cheap maxi-pad.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:07 PM (6gk0M)

22 i imagine with you for their dad, your kids will turn out just fine Warden.

seriously

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (fZXYQ)

23 My mom saw me for the sum total of 1 hour a day until I started supporting her and my dad at age 18.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (koJdH)

24 Great post, agree.

Posted by: BuckIV at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (CLfqv)

25 6 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh? Haters!!1!


Because the Penguins are playing the philthy flyers. Tied up right now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (pY+s4)

26 I grew up in the 80s. I rode my bike alone, walked to school alone, hell I too the city bus alone, all before I was 10 y/o. Today the idea of my close to 10 y/o doing any of those things....NO WAY. It's a different world.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (vsYKI)

27 I'm still stunned when I hear parents say their kid(s) have a play date. WTF is a play date?

I used to tell my Mom that me and some of my friends were going to the park to play softball or ride bikes and she'd say just be back by whatever o'clock.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (auHtY)

28 The Maxi-Pad couldn't have bled into anything, so allow me a moment to redirect my language toward the anger it is to have conveyed.

*Under Construction*

...Pardon Our Dust.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:09 PM (6gk0M)

29 on the other hand, when a girl who identifies as a guy comes in 18th in a weight lifting competition against 12 actual guys, I'm sure the SJWs will demand that results be adjusted to take past discrimination into account.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:09 PM (b7fwp)

30 My 20 year old daughter likes to remind me that the parents are the problem here for the special snowflake generation. I tell her that I agree in principle but do not take personal responsibility. She was told from an early age that while we thought she was special, nobody outside of our doors was obligated to treat her the same way. Also, the life isn'fair bit, etc.

We treated her to as much independence as the law and common sense allowed, because she had proven she could be trusted with it.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 08:09 PM (jvDoo)

31 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 26, 2017 08:10 PM (KCxzN)

32 Because the Penguins are playing the philthy flyers.

Oh, Cindy Crosby.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:10 PM (5p/Pr)

33 Yeah, when you think about it, I must have been a relative stranger to my folks. I checked in basically to eat and sleep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 26, 2017 08:10 PM (Tyii7)

34 In part I don't let the kids do what I did as a kid because it is a different world. Even though they all have phones and all that.

But mostly, I worry about all the other busybodies in the world. Remember those folks who were the "free range" parents, let their kids go a WHOLE MILE AWAY to a park, and the cops took their kids from them.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:10 PM (HV1LS)

35 Agree completely and my parents were if anything "worse". Boats, horses, minibikes and of course everywhere on our bikes. My neighborhood and beyond was always full of kids playing outside. I hear parents today say "Who would allow their kids to do that?" about some of the stuff we did and way beyond all the time.

You breed pajama boys, you get pajama boys.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 08:10 PM (/tuJf)

36 Trump says he's open to dealing with Dems on tax reform and other big ticket items.

When the GOP says that, yeah, "fuck!" It's different when Trump says it.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 08:11 PM (NBHj5)

37 NO WAY. It's a different world.
----

Supposedly it's *safer* for kids now, in terms of the accident and crime rates. Though that may just be because kids aren't allowed out alone as much as they used to be.

(Actually, that probably is the reason, now that I think about it. So maybe we're doing the right thing... still a great loss for the kids, though.)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 26, 2017 08:11 PM (OVUYQ)

38 I remember the horrors and joys of the inner city I grew up in. So I made it a point to raise my baby in a better state/city. I can't believe I survived and had fun at the same time. But now I want her to be more successful than I or my wife, but that requires us to "be those parents" at times. I'm so torn. I want her to be an independent girl, but I own firearms for a reason. Thanks for the post. It's a struggle all parents go thru.

Posted by: ATC Guy at March 26, 2017 08:11 PM (EIU0L)

39 Okay... Here Goes:

Fuck the NCAA and everything that it allowed the Title IX Bullshit to bleed into. As if we didn't know that NINE! wasn't a Cheap Pad that would allow Socialist Bullshit to run down the Leg of Society.

*fix'd*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:12 PM (6gk0M)

40 I like the "Let's do this again and not fuck up like the first time" Grandpa Urinestain and Granny Skidmark.

These grandparents want to give their little shit grandkids all the things they neglected or couldn't give to their own kids.

Let it go already.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 08:12 PM (5VlCp)

41 Families were large so parents could spare losing one or two

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 26, 2017 08:12 PM (8RTTd)

42 We shared a similar childhood. My gran knitted a scarf for me when I was at College because we were experiencing the 50 below zero windchills. I delivered papers in sneakers, all seasons, all weather. I learned to ride my bicycle on snowy streets to do so. I used to sneak away during recess and find places to be alone and away from the commotion. The rule at home was go play and don't come back until mealtimes otherwise my parents would find work for us to do, in addition to the normal chores.

Posted by: Locke Common at March 26, 2017 08:12 PM (Gofnu)

43 My wife grew up in Detroit. Not in the suburbs. The hood. She rode city buses to school at single digit ages.

But again - no way with our kids.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:12 PM (HV1LS)

44 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh?

Because we're too busy watching basketball.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 08:13 PM (NBHj5)

45 Sorry I'm with the wife on the laser tag. I had an extraordinarily free childhood, growing up in the city of Pittsburgh. Single mom who left me alone quite a bit as she worked 2 jobs, plus I was a very independent and confident child. But I have a clear memory of being 10, and keeping track of a 5 year old could get a little dicey. I had a good friend who was 7 when I was 10; I was expected to be responsible for her, but she got into some situations that I wasn't adequate to handle at 10. IMO--and it truly is a humble opinion--they are a year or so away from this being a reasonable idea. OTOH, all of my friends who are parents now think that it's crazy dangerous to leave a 10 year old alone at home for even short periods of time, and I think that there's nothing wrong with leaving a prepared and mature 10 year old home for a few hours.

Posted by: rigeldog at March 26, 2017 08:13 PM (Qg0qV)

46 I wonder sometimes if I can give my growing brood the same upbringing I had. We were homeschooled and when we got done around 11am my mom would hand us a sandwich bag with a PBJ and a bottle of water and we'd run off into the woods till dinner. We usually ended up miles away from home in the middle of nowhere. I'm not sure my parents ever knew just how far we walked.
We had a few close calls back there. Snakes. A very angry bull. Falling through a frozen pond.. finding a homeless man... But in the end I have some damn good stories and a great childhood.

Posted by: Inventive at March 26, 2017 08:13 PM (6TVEY)

47 When I was 10 or 11 and it was fall, I'd come home from school, grab a firearm and disappear into the woods until dark.

Yes, it's different now.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 26, 2017 08:13 PM (EUMr7)

48 Now those with soaked socks want to claim surprise, while Title IX dates back to 1972.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:14 PM (6gk0M)

49 I grew up in a town of ~ 12-1300 people. We had a baseball diamond, an outdoor basketball court and woods about 100 meters from the house. Didn't spend much time indoors.

Posted by: Javems at March 26, 2017 08:14 PM (yOqwj)

50 I broke my arm three times before I was 16. Both my boys are now past 17 have never broken anything other than busted lip.

Posted by: freaked at March 26, 2017 08:14 PM (BO/km)

51 I've no standing to comment, not having kids myself but consider this: Harry Reid is still running around free.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 08:15 PM (vRcUp)

52 i let my kids out into the yard every day, weather permitting, and wait for them to ask to come back in...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 08:15 PM (GZ7a6)

53 32: Still the defending Stanley Cup Champions Pittsburgh Penguins 1; the vile despicable flyfuckers 1.

LETS GO PENS!!!

:-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 26, 2017 08:15 PM (pY+s4)

54 19 maybe playing in dirt all day when I was a kid and had the opportunity explains why I'm not allergic to anything.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:03 PM (b7fwp)
*************

This isn't your imagination. Research backs it up.

Pets are also helpful. And agrarian societies have almost no allergies.

Posted by: Warden at March 26, 2017 08:16 PM (YOnlm)

55 Criminy neds, when I was a kid (late '60s, early '70s), I basically checked in for dinner. Instead of going to another school, I rode my bike several miles back and forth for a couple of years.

And what became of me after this hideous, irresponsible neglect? I'm now a Moron commenting at AoSHQ.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:16 PM (K2ygU)

56 Some of my cherished memories as a child was climbing the crabapple tree at my late grandmother's house.

Then picking the crabapples and raining them down on my brothers.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:16 PM (GsAUU)

57 I had that sort of childhood and gave my daughter as much as was possible. the neighborhood I live in now, there are kids out everyday, riding bicycles, skateboards, etc. It's nice. Can't imagine living in a big city anymore.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 08:18 PM (uKRys)

58 LETS GO PENS!!!

:-)

Posted by: Puddleglum


LET GO OF YOUR PENIS!!!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 26, 2017 08:18 PM (vRcUp)

59 My cousin and I got flat fucking lost one time. You know what- we found our way out.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:18 PM (koJdH)

60 44 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh?

Because we're too busy watching basketball.
Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 08:13 PM (NBHj5)


--LMAO.

What, no one bothered to fill out a women's bracket like Bathhouse Barry?

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:18 PM (GsAUU)

61 Another story...

When I was around 9 or so, there was a bully in my neighborhood. He was around my age, a bit large, and so on. He would harass me and my friends as we would walk from school, and do all the other bully stuff.

I would try to avoid him but it wasn't always successful. One day he got very bold and followed me into my yard where he tried to start something. I went inside. My mother wanted to know who the other boy was and I said that he is a bully so I wasn't going to go outside again.

My mother looked at me, got stern, and said no boy should ever have that kind of power. She took me to the front door, put me outside, and closed the door behind me. I then heard her lock the door.

So at that point, what choice did I have? The bully looked rather smug and was trying to intimidate me, but hell I was scared and desperate. So I went up to him, and I hit him in the face as hard as I could. Really hard. I don't think he was expecting it, and he fell backwards when I jumped on him and kept hitting him until I heard him cry. Yes, cry. I stopped and he got up, and walked away without another word. He never bothered me again, nor anyone I was friends with.

I think this is another thing that changed. I think these days there's be parents calling parents, schools intervening, and all of that. It was a hard lesson for me but a necessary one. I hate to think that kids today aren't learning these kinds of lessons.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 08:18 PM (2VN2E)

62 Trees, rocks, bikes, fights, swingsets, sports, dinner.

...and then a die-roll after dinner.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:19 PM (6gk0M)

63
I think a lot of this depends on where you're living. SoCal was exactly like you'd expect: you'd NEVER see kids alone on the street except in the 'hood. Now that I'm living in semi-rural Texas, it's pretty much normal to see kids riding their bikes on the sidewalk or walking home from school.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:19 PM (cuZZW)

64 I don't have kids, but the problem as I see it is that children are not allowed to make mistakes. In this day and age, mistakes and failing are considered the worst thing ever. How exactly is someone supposed to learn anything if mistakes are to be avoided at all costs? It takes away the children's ability to think for themselves, and makes them so much easier to control. So feature instead of a bug?

Posted by: wytshus at March 26, 2017 08:20 PM (EVi2J)

65 I have some younger neighbors who have two adorable little girls. These two are out in the yard almost constantly, playing and being generally rambunctious. There appears to be very little couch potato TV or video game time with those two. Does my heart good to see it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 26, 2017 08:20 PM (Tyii7)

66 ...and by die-roll I mean D&D -or- Atari -or- Intellivision -or- Colecovision in the Winter.

A "Smorgasboard" of Rocks, Sports and Fighting, otherwise.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:22 PM (6gk0M)

67
These fuckers at Shitty Minutes are incorrigible.

You expected something completely different?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 08:22 PM (IqV8l)

68
We gave both our girls as much independence and freedom as they could handle growing up.

They were STILL expected to adhere to the "please, thank you, yessir, no ma'am respect the adults WE had to.

Result has been the 2 most exceptional children in the hemisphere.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 26, 2017 08:23 PM (X35Yt)

69 Amen. We've tried to give our kids (now 20 & 17) long leashes, but they've had no where near the freedom we did.

I grew up in Sunnyvale, the heart of Silicon Valley. We used to hop on the bus to go to the mall 20+ miles away, or take our bikes to the mountains, hitch a ride to the summit, and bomb Hwy 9 downhill. We'd play unrestricted in the orchards and vacant fields. We'd catch tadpoles in the drainage ditch behind the house, and walk along that same ditch for miles into the next town. We'd play with firecrackers, bottle rockets, and cherry bombs. My brother, who was 9 years my senior, used to hunt for rabbits with a .410 in the orchards next to the civic center. One time he and his friend was messing around with a pellet gun in an orchard. A cop drove up and said "bet you $5 you can't hit the blackbird up on that telephone pole." My brother won the bet.

It wasn't always positive. My neighbor almost blew his eye out while we were playing with firecrackers. The kid with no arms down at the park used to freak me out. When I was in gradeschool, my friend and I got jumped by a gang of teenage girls wearing flannel shirts. But I learned some important lessons; lessons that my kids haven't learned...

Posted by: Average Guy at March 26, 2017 08:23 PM (LMcFk)

70 My former girlfriend's ex called the cops on us after we left the 14 year old to look after the eight year old while we went to the gym for an hour. The cop acted like we had left the kids in a crack house. I told him to get a clue . The 14 year old would be driving in less than a year.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 08:23 PM (IDPbH)

71 If your kid isn't bleeding once-a-year? (Month for boys. I'm being nice.)

They are either Indoor Girls or they are not Learning.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:24 PM (6gk0M)

72 I think 60 Minutes is doing a story about "fake news."

After next Monday I can go back to not watching CBS until football season.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:24 PM (GsAUU)

73 When I was eight, I had a bike and the run of the town. When I was a bit older, I took a header on my bike, and a kindly driver stopped and transported me home. My parents were throwing a big party - the high point of the party was my showing up with blood pouring down my face - it was a minor scalp wound.

Inconceivable that this would be tolerated today.

Posted by: Whatever at March 26, 2017 08:24 PM (xnAyb)

74 A while back some of my customers had a young boy(6) . While they rode I would give him a board, hammer and nails.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:24 PM (koJdH)

75 I'm thinking "stitches".

From 8-16? Once-A-Year because things and stuff.

...but mainly things.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:25 PM (6gk0M)

76 It's not safe to let your kids run around any more. There are all sorts of sicko gropists out there. But you must tolerate them because otherwise you would be a racist. So I'm afraid we're stuck with an intractable problem, and the only solution is to coddle your kids until they are 18.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 26, 2017 08:25 PM (vRcUp)

77 Some few years ago we lived on several acres outside Cincinnati. A young couple with young kids moved into the house next door (also on acreage). They would run around the front yard, chasing and yelling, pursued by a couple of Shelties barking their heads off.

One day the dad apologized for the noise. I said, why? That's what they should be doing.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:27 PM (K2ygU)

78 on the other hand, when a girl who identifies as a guy comes in 18th in a weight lifting competition against 12 actual guys, I'm sure the SJWs will demand that results be adjusted to take past discrimination into account.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme


Now that kids are being started on hormone therapy when they are very young, like that female Texas wrestler, it will be interesting to see if they can eventually compete as men. She looked like quite a gorilla, and is probably being pumped full of more testosterone in a week than Lidsey Graham's testicles have pumped into him in a lifetime.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 08:28 PM (vRcUp)

79 I think a lot of this depends on where you're living. SoCal was exactly like you'd expect: you'd NEVER see kids alone on the street except in the 'hood. Now that I'm living in semi-rural Texas, it's pretty much normal to see kids riding their bikes on the sidewalk or walking home from school.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:19 PM (cuZZW)


Delurking...I grew up in Yorba Linda, CA during the late 70s, early 80s and we (the neighborhood kids) were ALWAYS out and about without supervision. This nanny state/helicopter parenting crap began in the 90s from what I remember. I would add that with the growth of the video game industry, most kids decided that they would rather do that than be outside. Hell, I have four nephews and the two oldest (18 and 10) are two of the most antisocial individuals I have ever been around. All they want to do is spend time playing video games or texting on their phones. When they are with me, all that shit comes to a screeching halt and they are forced to interact and have fun...outside and around other people.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (S/qwI)

80 Helps explain the politics of millennials - when you have been taken care off and looked after all your life, you expect that treatment in the future.

Millennials expect the government to be their parents and take care of and look after them.

Posted by: Whatever at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (xnAyb)

81
Hell, some of my fondest memories from childhood scared the living shit out of my Mom once I fessed up 30 or 40 years later. Like playing in the rock quarry at Barbers Point NAS, throwing rocks at 6 foot across bee hives on the quarry walls, hiding forest porn in the brush near some of the abandoned warehouses on base, trying to find a way to climb down into the quarry near the main gate that literally had a rain forest at the bottom (the dirt ramp down to the bottom had been cut off into a 30ft or better dropoff), dodging the base SPs because we were out screwing around past curfew, riding home from Boy Scout meetings at 9pm and stopping to throw rocks onto the corrugated steel roof of the building where the post had Karate classes the same night.

Good times, good times.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (cuZZW)

82 When I was a sixth grader in north Miami I would:

Get on a bus and ride many miles to the museum in south. Stay for the star party one night a week and leave around 9:30 and ride the bus back. Tho the fellow running the planetarium would give me rides back. Something else forbidden today.

I would ride the bus to Crandon Park out in the bay and go to the zoo, the Seaquarium or ride the glass bottom boat. I had free passes.

I would ride the bus to south Miami Beach and spend the day swimming.

I wandered downtown Miami, had a favorite restaurant for lunch and went to the movies. We spent a lot of time in Biscayne Park.

We rode our bikes to the Saturday matinee which let you in for a certain number of bottle caps.

We swam in Biscayne Bay, I still have a scar on one knee from a coral cut. No big deal was made of it.

When I was visiting cousins up north in New Jersey a group of us jumped on bikes and rode 10 or 12 miles to some other cousins house.

They had mobs of 10 to 15 kids running around playing hide and seek until 10 PM when the parents ran us inside. We had Monopoly tournaments.

On thing is the lack of kids in today's neighborhoods. In this neighborhood my kids had two other families with one or two kids. And one set of those were junior future prison inmates. You can't have a pack of 15 kids running around at night when there aren't any kids.



Posted by: agesilaus at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (861WE)

83 and the only solution is to coddle your kids until they are 18.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 26, 2017 08:25 PM (vRcUp)

Please tell me you didn't reproduce.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (uKRys)

84 You and me both buddy.

My children don't (didn't) enjoy a fraction of the independence and unsupervised time I did, and I grew up in NYC in the 1970s. I've written here before, my parents had only two rules:

1) don't call us from jail, we're not coming for you, and
2) don't go above 92nd St

That said, Mrs. Franpsycho and I have done more than most of our peers. Our boy has autism but does his own laundry, helps cook dinner, makes his own school lunch, and gets his own breakfast. He takes out the garbage, sets and clears dinner, loads and unloads the dishwasher.

My sister's kids have all of these things done for them, and she thinks we are cruel to our son.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 26, 2017 08:30 PM (pGvPP)

85 My good Southern Baptist parents raised us on hard work, honesty, okra, oysters, and rice. I think I turned out pretty much as they intended. I even think they would be happy I'm a Presbyterian now.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 08:30 PM (zLDYs)

86 When I got home from Church, my friends were already out in the World. I had to find them.

When we stopped going to Church at the New Place, I had to wait for every other one of my Friends to get home.

We then built, burned, rode, jumped, punched, ran and otherwise forged out way through childhood.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:30 PM (6gk0M)

87 *our*, even.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:30 PM (6gk0M)

88 I had no clue how, but when I was 8 some rope (more like a cord) got tangled up in the rear sprocket of my bike. I borrowed a thread cutter to try to cut it off, and I put too much strength into cutting a piece and the hand with the cutter kept going and cut my scalp.

It did not hurt too much, but boy did I drip a decent amount of blood.

I've always been kind of a spaz.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:30 PM (GsAUU)

89 One day the dad apologized for the noise. I said, why? That's what they should be doing.

That's the way I view it. It gets a tad annoying at times, as the younger one is into that glass-shattering, piercing scream that seems to afflict all little girls at one stage or another. Small price to pay for seeing genuinely happy kids.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 26, 2017 08:31 PM (Tyii7)

90
My kids are raising theirs as we raised them--seems to be a successful method.

In order to do this you need the proper setting--just as rural as can be managed, a city simply won't work.

No freedom to simply be a kid.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 26, 2017 08:31 PM (X35Yt)

91 My mom worked since I could remember. I walked to kindergarten by myself when I lived in Rapid City ,SD. It was probably only a few blocks from my house but of course it seemed much further. My mom did tell me she followed me to and from one day to make sure I didn't deviate.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 08:31 PM (IDPbH)

92 My parents used to throw us out of the house so they could have sex. Same reason they sent us to church on the baptist church bus. My kid played sports since he was 5. Bowling and baseball. He never had much free time and we didn't have any kids in our neighborhood so it was play dates and sports. He's a funny sarcastic macho guy at 29. He'd fit in wonderfully here.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 26, 2017 08:31 PM (eDc0r)

93 My son and a neighbor kid built a really shitty go cart out of old lumber and some wheels off a junk mower today.

There's still some good out there.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 26, 2017 08:33 PM (EUMr7)

94 One of the best times as a kid was coming across a bum's nest in the woods while out and about.

If the bum was home, we would try and get tales of adventure and misdeeds out of him while seeing what porn or booze he was hiding.

If the bum was out, we would raid his nest for anything of value. Good times, good times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 08:33 PM (5VlCp)

95 83 and the only solution is to coddle your kids until they are 18.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 26, 2017 08:25 PM (vRcUp)

Please tell me you didn't reproduce.
Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (uKRys)

--Heh, IIRC Frau Merkel actually has not any children.

Which could explain a lot.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:33 PM (GsAUU)

96 So I'm afraid we're stuck with an intractable problem, and the only solution is to coddle your kids until they are 18.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 26, 2017 08:25 PM (vRcUp)




Obamacare: Why not make it 26?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 08:34 PM (auHtY)

97 Our "pack" consisted of Eight Firework-Seeking, House-Egging, Vandalizing Neer-Do-Wells from the Fourth Grade and below.

We had to learn that we were idiots. My Fourth-Grade, Jesus-Loving buddies thought I was Too Much Fun.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:35 PM (6gk0M)

98 and the only solution is to coddle your kids until they are 18.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 26, 2017 08:25 PM (vRcUp)

Please tell me you didn't reproduce.

Posted by: Infidel


Ok, just checked up on wikipedia. Seems we're good to go, I have no kids and I'm guessing I'm past menopause at this point.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 26, 2017 08:36 PM (vRcUp)

99 If the bum was out, we would raid his nest for anything of value. Good times, good times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 08:33 PM (5VlCp)

--Did he ever show up while you were plundering and give you the bum's ruch?

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

100 Bottlerocket fights.

Our parents let us do that.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (HV1LS)

101 I don't have kids but I am very close to my young 13 year old friend. Her parents have a place at Pelee island in Canada. It's like going back in time about 50 years. She's up there most of the summer and has beautiful, boundless freedom. Rides her bike from her folks to her grandparents and uncles places down the beach and just has to check in occasionally. Just like when I was a kid. I was gone on my bike from dawn to dusk. I basically came home for lunch and dinner. I never thought about it, but as some others of you have said, our parents had it kinda easy. Didn't have to expend much energy helicoptering.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (F2j+i)

102
Hell, I have four nephews and the two oldest (18 and 10) are two of the most antisocial individuals I have ever been around. All they want to do is spend time playing video games or texting on their phones.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at March 26, 2017 08:29 PM (S/qwI)







You just described my two nephews. Annoying as hell. They usually try that "make me some lunch, Uncle Cur" shit with me when I go back to visit for the holidays. Errr, no. Get your ass in here and I'll TEACH you how to make your own lunch, but I ain't playing waiter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (cuZZW)

103 I walked to first grade and on the way home I would try to convince the neighbors horses to let me ride them.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (koJdH)

104 I got good grades to keep my Parents off my ass. I was a Hellion. A respectable, contrite Eddie Haskell without the pretense.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (6gk0M)

105 2 There are things I did that I'd never allow my kids to do.

Not me. I would want them to do everything I did.

Explore.

Learn.

Fix.

Fuck up.



I was not allowed to fuck up. Making mistakes was a cause for scorn and derision, and in some cases punishment. It's really screwed me up even to this day.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:38 PM (0mRoj)

106 27 I'm still stunned when I hear parents say their kid(s) have a play date. WTF is a play date?

I used to tell my Mom that me and some of my friends were going to the park to play softball or ride bikes and she'd say just be back by whatever o'clock.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 08:08 PM (auHtY)

Now you'll get the cops and CPS at your door for that, depending on the kids' ages.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:39 PM (0mRoj)

107 My daughter told me about another girl in school bullying her. I asked her what the girl did when she fought back. She replied that they were taught never to fight back, and to tell their teacher about it. She did this three times before she told me about it.

Next day I called the Principal and raised holy hell. Asked him what was being done to the bully. Nothing, despite complaints from 4 other kids. I told him that I had taught my daughter how to defend herself physically, and that I had authorized her to do her best to kick her ass next time the bully started something. If she were to get into any disciplinary issues for defending herself, they would be hearing from my attorney.

He finally called the bully's parents in for conference. The bullying stopped, but it took a legal threat to get the school to take any action at all. This was when my daughter was 8, in 2002.

When I was 8, in 1971, defending yourself would have just been a playground scuffle, and a teacher would have just cleaned up both kids.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 08:39 PM (TBXMD)

108 107 My daughter told me about another girl in school bullying her. I asked her what the girl did when she fought back. She replied that they were taught never to fight back, and to tell their teacher about it. She did this three times before she told me about it.

All this does is embolden and enable the bullies.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:40 PM (0mRoj)

109 Don't forget to light a tire for Earf Day.

(8:30-9:30)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 26, 2017 08:41 PM (J+eG2)

110 Did he ever show up while you were plundering and give you the bum's ruch?
Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

Yup...a few times. We would play dumb at first then conduct a hasty retreat before the bum could get close enough for blows. These were real hobos, not the street scum you see today. They kinda knew the deal and no hard feelings as they came and went on a regular basis.
Sometimes me and my pals would see them on the street and give them a handout or a smoke just to even things out.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 08:41 PM (5VlCp)

111 You know what else doesn't happen anymore in childhood?

Cousins.

In my family, every single Sunday was spent visiting your grandparents. The adults had their own world and the cousins would all be off somewhere together. I'm not talking about two or three kids, I am talking about hordes of kids. We've been burying all our old aunts and uncles at breakneck speed these past few years and everyone laments the loss of our days together as cousins, something our kids never really had, but no one returns to frequent visiting.

People are so busy...doing I don't know what, but it's the kids who miss out on the fun.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 26, 2017 08:41 PM (oQQwD)

112 My good Southern Baptist parents raised us on hard work, honesty, okra, oysters, and rice. I think I turned out pretty much as they intended. I even think they would be happy I'm a Presbyterian now.

Posted by: Eromero


Ok, sorry to bother you Eromero, I'm not religious, but I am fascinated by Christian theology.

SBC is mostly Arminian (free will) but there are some prominent members like Albert R. Mohler, Jr. who are staunch Calvinists.

Presbyterianism has Calvinism built into its genes because of the WCF.

Just out of curiosity, were your parents Arminian, and then you became Presbyterian because of the Calvinist issue? Or did you become Presbyterian because you reviewed the arguments for/against infant baptism and decided the Presbyterians were right? Again, sorry to bug you, I'm just fascinated by this and would like to get your take.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 08:41 PM (vRcUp)

113
I got good grades to keep my Parents off my ass.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (6gk0M)







Heh. I used to ACE tests all the time......but never, and I mean NEVER did homework. Pissed the teachers off something fierce. "How in the hell are you getting A pluses on the test if you don't do the homework??????"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:42 PM (cuZZW)

114 I was fortunate enough to grow up in the 1950s in a small northeast Kansas town. My best friend and I would frequently be gone from morning until dark running around out in the woods, swimming in muddy cow ponds (where I learned to swim with no adult in sight), fishing and sometimes shooting guns. We also roamed the town, getting on the roof of almost every building in town, climbing to the top of the local grain elevator grain bins and halfway up the water tower. My dad was a self-employed printer/weekly newspaper owner and worked long hours. My mom had four kids younger than me to take care of so, as she used to say, I kind of raised myself. I always felt bad for my friend. He was the youngest of 3 and after getting home at the end of the day would get his butt kicked for being gone all day. No one ever said a word to me.

Posted by: Suds 46 at March 26, 2017 08:42 PM (3booC)

115 "You just described my two nephews. Annoying as hell. They usually try that "make me some lunch, Uncle Cur" shit with me when I go back to visit for the holidays. Errr, no. Get your ass in here and I'll TEACH you how to make your own lunch, but I ain't playing waiter."
-Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (cuZZW)

Amen, Brother!

I had a babysitter that used to put me through The Wringer to do shit on Mom's List. She was old enough to actually Twist My Arm to get me to do things.

I was the Neighborhood Mouth and my Buddies would watch me getting beaten by "A Girl".

She would twist my ass to tears if she thought I was being too much of a smart-ass.

She also brought Jolly Ranchers and cookies for my gay little Brother.

...and me, if I behaved.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:44 PM (6gk0M)

116
When I was 8, in 1971, defending yourself would
have just been a playground scuffle, and a teacher would have just
cleaned up both kids.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 08:39 PM (TBXMD)
This. that is how we grew up. Fight after school out behind the gym.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 08:44 PM (uKRys)

117 Now you'll get the cops and CPS at your door for that, depending on the kids' ages.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:39 PM (0mRoj)



Damn, what would they have done when me and my buddies played army all day? We had our moms pack us a lunch and we took our toy guns and divided up into two groups and went around the neighborhood hunting each others group down all day.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 08:44 PM (auHtY)

118 I got good grades to keep my Parents off my ass. I was a Hellion. A respectable, contrite Eddie Haskell without the pretense.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (6gk0M)

======

Same here. One friends Mom said " He is such a nice and funny guy. Then, he goes out and gets in so much TROUBLE." Yep.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 08:44 PM (TBXMD)

119 I'm still a little worried that one of the other parents called CPS on me yesterday because I left my little kids in the (air conditioned) van with my 12 year old for 15 minutes while waiting for a birthday party to wrap up.


We were out at a ranch in the middle of nowhere, my young kids were sleeping, and of course my oldest could come get me if anything was needed but...still I worry someone took that the wrong way.

That's really my only parenting worry. Busybodies.

Posted by: Lauren at March 26, 2017 08:44 PM (Mbn3u)

120 RondinellMamma- Great point. My grandparents had 10 kids and I had 40 cousins.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:45 PM (koJdH)

121
When I was 8, in 1971, defending yourself would have just been a playground scuffle, and a teacher would have just cleaned up both kids
*****

I got into dozens of fights both in and out of school. The first was when I was 6. Some kid threw rocks at my bike and called it a piece of shit so I slugged him in the mouth and cut up his lips pretty good.

It was no big deal in my neighborhood. At least once a week someone would take an ass beating and walk home crying. You had to fight to earn respect.

Posted by: Warden at March 26, 2017 08:45 PM (YOnlm)

122 I've posted before that my father was either trying to kill me or making sure I'd become a man's man. I got my first gun( if not counting the various bb and pellet guns well before) when I was eight. .410 wingmaster pump. He let me drive our car as fast as it could go down the Chennault airstrip when I was nine. I think I broke 100 . I got a Honda 70 when I was twelve and he signed me up for Little Britches Rodeo when I wanted to be a cowboy. His last purchase for me was a Yamaha 450 enduro for graduation. Then he politely kicked me out of the house because I was 18. I could visit anytime I wanted ,I just couldn't live there. God I miss that man.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 08:45 PM (IDPbH)

123 IllTemperedCur:

I was kind of the same way. Almost never made the six-weeks honor rolls, due mostly to incomplete homework, but almost always made the semester honor roll because I would ace the semester test.

Posted by: Suds 46 at March 26, 2017 08:45 PM (3booC)

124 Hogmartin in last thread- Seiko 5 automatic.
It's the bomb. I wear one everyday.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 08:45 PM (zLDYs)

125 OMG.

Played war with toy handguns and rifles (I'm an 'ette, we all played) walked or rode bikes to the corner liquor store (near a busy street!) and got candy (!), WALKED a mile to school every day, stayed out until dark (when the street lights came on), played in the barranca (i.e., really big culvert) whenever... Had REAL Halloween, when everyone walked the streets and knocked on doors and never worried about anything (all those 'razor blades in candy' stories were crap, but ruined the whole thing anyway). Spent the 60's in Ventura, CA, and 70's in Palm Springs (still a real small town then).... Looking back was heaven. Rode horses all over the desert with friends and none of us had helmets.

I have a 19 year old, he missed all of that, but we have tried to give him experience that make up for it. He loves to camp, and road trip, and go-for-it. Best we could do.

Posted by: exliberal at March 26, 2017 08:46 PM (kjizk)

126 I try and make sure my Scouts have the freedom to explore and test themselves. Sometimes, the moms and dad's don't agree. Now, we do have to make sure they don't get eaten. We've lions and wolves. Bears, Griz and blacks. Coyote. Fox skunk (oh boy was that a bad experience. But he won't do that again). Deer are dangerous. So are cliffs and trees. All I'm saying is, learn the kids HOW to deal. They grow up ok. I've Scouts who are now Army captains and Navy lieutenants, one testing soon for the bar. This generation, despite the ones who get all the air play, I think they'll do OK

McGyver, out

Posted by: Mcgyver at March 26, 2017 08:46 PM (6hAG+)

127 You just described my two nephews. Annoying as hell. They usually try that "make me some lunch, Uncle Cur" shit with me when I go back to visit for the holidays. Errr, no. Get your ass in here and I'll TEACH you how to make your own lunch, but I ain't playing waiter.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2017 08:37 PM (cuZZW)


They have both "tried" me on occasion with the "yeah, naw" responses to my questions and I have had to introduce them to the F5 hurricane that is Aunt I Be That Chick. After leaving them minus both ass cheeks a few times, they have learned to interact with me in a respectful, yet engaging manner. Still, it is an issue that I see them having for a long time, unless they make a change.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at March 26, 2017 08:46 PM (S/qwI)

128 I do have to say though that kids play outside all the time in our neighborhood.

Posted by: Lauren at March 26, 2017 08:46 PM (Mbn3u)

129
Our sixteen month old grandson loves to be outside, so we take him. My sense is that he doesn't enough of that at home. "Devices", y'know, take up a lot of his parents' time.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2017 08:46 PM (v1g1+)

130 .. uphill. both ways, with just a raw potato for lunch ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 26, 2017 08:47 PM (LTHVh)

131 All this does is embolden and enable the bullies.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:40 PM (0mRoj)

======

Yep. Hence the rest of my post.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 08:47 PM (TBXMD)

132 120 RondinellMamma- Great point. My grandparents had 10 kids and I had 40 cousins.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:45 PM (koJdH)

Betcha your holidays were awesome! Crazy, but awesome!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 26, 2017 08:48 PM (oQQwD)

133 108 107 My daughter told me about another girl in school bullying her. I asked her what the girl did when she fought back. She replied that they were taught never to fight back, and to tell their teacher about it. She did this three times before she told me about it.

All this does is embolden and enable the bullies.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:40 PM (0mRoj)

It makes you wonder if the teachers do this on purpose. Years ago, I subbed at a middle school, and one girl was just harassed by the other girls in the class. I intervened, and was told off by the regular teachers, who said that the first girl was not nice, and deserved what she got.

I was flabbergasted.

But it makes me think that this is a common occurrence.

Posted by: moki at March 26, 2017 08:48 PM (wuzmq)

134 By the fourth grade I was walking to school about a half mile through the country because I couldn't stand waiting for the bus. I got there on time, and had a great time doing it. I cut across farms and filbert orchards and made up stories in my head the whole way.

I bet my parents would be arrested today for letting me do that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2017 08:48 PM (39g3+)

135 I had DFACS called on me because my Daughter at FIFTEEN walked home in the evening (still light) from lees than a mile away.. in the country! She even had a neighbor kid with her that was ten..

I was gobsmacked.. and tell the truth so was the DFACS lady.. But she still had to come and interview us!

Posted by: catman at March 26, 2017 08:49 PM (5H2BV)

136 also, in case no one has mentioned this, I'm sure there are more than a few places where your kids can be taken away from you if you let them out of your sight for an hour or two.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:49 PM (b7fwp)

137 I never owned a scarf until my wife bought me one ten years ago. I remain baffled that anyone who doesn't work in life threateningly cold weather would think one a necessity.

I've never worn scarves - even when I worked in life threateningly cold weather. I consider them annoyances more than anything.

Although my mother did have us wear dickeys, which were about as retarded as clip-on ties (and yes, she had us wear those, too). But we were always spared the scourge of scarves.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 08:49 PM (zc3Db)

138
"Don't forget to light a tire for Earf Day."

I'm planning on starting an underground coal mine fire. The gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:50 PM (K2ygU)

139 Speaking of parties apparently some parents won't let their child of ANY age go to parties without them, because pedos.

Posted by: Lauren at March 26, 2017 08:51 PM (Mbn3u)

140 RondinellaMama- 125+ for Christmas dinner.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 08:52 PM (koJdH)

141 I think I grew up at the tail end of the "childhood freedom" generation. In the early 90s my sister and I walked two blocks to school every day, and during summer we and the neighbor kids were given about a 3 block radius to run around and ride our bikes. Often we would only come home at mealtimes and run back outside until dark. We also had a strip of woods behind our backyard that was about 1/4 to 1/2 mile wide, and if you were feeling really adventurous you could walk through it to the road on the other side.

Good times. Nowadays there are some Millenials who never learned to ride a bike. Sad!

Posted by: Aunt Luna at March 26, 2017 08:52 PM (Zd2ZF)

142 This is a good thread, thank you everyone for sharing your stories.

Makes me feel a little less alone in this world. I look around and see things so different than what they were even 20 years ago, and wonder what's going to happen. Glad I'm apparently not the only one.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 08:52 PM (2VN2E)

143 Warden, you should watch the documentary What Happened To Johnny Gosch. This will clarify why parents don't let their children out of their sights.

Spoiler: Human Trafficking & Pedophile networks allowing to operate and thrive.

It's on Netflix right now.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 08:53 PM (1ZlS3)

144 That it takes a Legal Threat to get action is bullshit.

I got my ass kicked on more than one occasion to "understand" the way the World works.

The Teacher's job was intervention and "Clean-Up", as you described, Flyboy.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:53 PM (6gk0M)

145 I got stitches every six months or so as a kid. Rode bike across 20 miles of town. Came home from school took shotgun or .22 and went hunting. Had a paper route at 10, worked night blue fishing on a party boat at 13.

I used to tell my son, go out and don't come back until you are filthy. He took me at my word, head to toe in mud. He's grown into a fine young man of whom I am extremely pround.

Posted by: Jr at March 26, 2017 08:53 PM (v9gSJ)

146
Posted by: Mcgyver at March 26, 2017 08:46 PM (6hAG+)


Spot on. Those young men -- yours and mine -- learn to learn how to deal with life's issues abd how to get along with one another. Boy Scouts is one program which provides such opportunities.

I have had parents more than once question why a patrol is out and about on their own at our camping locations. "Because they are meant to be," is my answer, but it requires a more detailed explanation than that. Nobody has pulled out because their sons are exposed to too much liberty.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2017 08:54 PM (v1g1+)

147 also, in case no one has mentioned this, I'm sure there are more than a few places where your kids can be taken away from you if you let them out of your sight for an hour or two.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 08:49 PM (b7fwp)


Didn't a few stories make the news about a mother who had child defective services threaten her because she let her kid play alone in the playground or something? My mother used to drop us off at the playground and go do what she had to do.

But nowadays people are under the impression that child kidnappers and white slave traffickers are hiding behind every corner ...

Also, when I was a kid there was no bullshit with this 15 mph speed limit in front of a school. Let's be honest, no one who isn't riding a tricycle can go as slow as 15 mph for more than 20 yards. And the kids in the school aren't supposed to be on the road, to begin with, and they all live in the same neighborhood as the school where people are driving the regular speeds on those roads. Personally, I have never heard of any schoolchildren being hit by cars in my state. Never. I've heard of school bus drivers being drunk and running off the road, but never heard of someone slamming into a kid around a school because he was driving the regular speed limit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 08:54 PM (zc3Db)

148
Good times. Nowadays there are some Millenials who never learned to ride a bike. Sad!
Posted by: Aunt Luna


They're waiting for a self-driving UberBike.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 08:54 PM (IqV8l)

149 I had to jump in before reading all the posts because I'll be willowed otherwise.

I'm fifty-two. My, and my siblings' lives were much more unstructured than Warden's, which tells how much this change is happening. And we can project backwards (what is the antonym of project?) and it's always the same. No one wants our children to be feral but this cloistered childhood is not doing anyone any service.

Posted by: kalneva at March 26, 2017 08:55 PM (vhW1R)

150 Damn, what would they have done when me and my buddies played army all day? We had our moms pack us a lunch and we took our toy guns and divided up into two groups and went around the neighborhood hunting each others group down all day.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 08:44 PM (auHtY)

If they're realistic looking, you might get shot.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 08:55 PM (0mRoj)

151 steve and cold bear @ 112-
I'm a Presbyterian because after a lifetime of looking at all of them except islam (devil worship in my opinion), Presbyterian Church In America makes sense to me at age 68. And of course, Romans chapter 8 vs 28-30.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 08:55 PM (zLDYs)

152 Here is the thing with my kids - they are not afraid of us. I am not saying they should live in fear or that we should be scary. But with my mom, I knew when the line was crossed, and I was afraid to do it. That kept my dumbassness within reason.



Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:56 PM (HV1LS)

153 I think 60 Minutes is doing a story about "fake news."

Kind of like watching Muldoon do an episode on puns. A master class.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 08:56 PM (eeTCA)

154 139 Speaking of parties apparently some parents won't let their child of ANY age go to parties without them, because pedos.
Posted by: Lauren at March 26, 2017 08:51 PM (Mbn

Yep. It started with Johnny Gosch being kidnapped in 1983. Then the Franklin Scandal and Boys Town.

There were open pedophile and human trafficking networks back then. All attempts to bring down these networks failed and now 33 years later, they have metastasized.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 08:57 PM (1ZlS3)

155 Those shots of the Xcel Pipeline being constructed again that Judge Jeanine just showed guve me the warm fuzzies.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 08:57 PM (GsAUU)

156 I have dozens of childhood stories of adventure, mischief,
recklessness, foolishness and bravery---hours of planning, exploring,
competing, fighting, cooperating, exploring, failing and achieving-- all
outside the oversight of our parents. I wonder... what childhood
stories will my boys tell?




Wow - now there's food for thought.

Glad I don't have kids. I would be in jail for sure.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 08:58 PM (tHwdc)

157 I have a huge family, so I too am use to being around my aunts, uncles and cousins. My sil (youngest brother) is an only child and her father died when she was 10, so it has been just her and her mother for years. Now that her and my brother have a child, she has become so standoffish. She has said time and time again that she doesn't understand the need to have family get-togethers and expose my nephew to his extended family. She has been told to get f*cked quite a few times by our family members. Needless to say, my brother just brings my nephew to the family functions and she stays home.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at March 26, 2017 08:59 PM (S/qwI)

158 Here is the thing with my kids - they are not afraid
of us. I am not saying they should live in fear or that we should be
scary. But with my mom, I knew when the line was crossed, and I was
afraid to do it. That kept my dumbassness within reason.


Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:56 PM (HV1LS)

Heh, Dad traveled a lot for work when we were younger. Never let the count get to three, and dear Lord I hated the wooden spoon. I don't think I ever heard 'wait till your father gets home'.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 08:59 PM (uKRys)

159 Spot on. Those young men -- yours and mine -- learn to learn how to deal with life's issues abd how to get along with one another. Boy Scouts is one program which provides such opportunities.


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2017 08:54 PM (v1g1+)

--Unfortunately, now that Teh Gheyz and Friends have trounced in, Boy Scouts is going to become just another Social Justice Engineering outfit.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 09:00 PM (GsAUU)

160 i love threads like these.
great stuff everyone.

i am quite the nostalgic, so i'm keen to all these stories.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 09:00 PM (fZXYQ)

161 There was a story a few days ago about four year old Hunter who was suspended from preschool for bringing an expended .22 bullet casing to school because he thought that being shiny, it was pretty.

When I was a kid, we put match heads into .22 casings, pinched the open end closed, and struck them with a hammer resulting in a fun bang. (I was interested in fun bangs even then.) Just an example of how times have changed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 26, 2017 09:01 PM (Nwg0u)

162 Here is the thing with my kids - they are not afraid of us. I am not saying they should live in fear or that we should be scary. But with my mom, I knew when the line was crossed, and I was afraid to do it. That kept my dumbassness within reason.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:56 PM (HV1LS)

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My daughter had a "healthy respect" probably bordering on fear if she really screwed up or mouthed off. This is because she had gotten all of three somewhat light spankings in her entire life. This though let her know the threat was always there. Thankfully, she was and is a great, smart and pretty mellow kid.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 09:02 PM (TBXMD)

163 Part of the difference is the neighbors looked out for one and other, and all of the children in the neighborhood. The worst thing to happen would be a neighbor reporting to my parents about some transgression. My parents knew our neighbors, went to school with them, worked with them, went to church with them. People are so transitory and there are so many people from outside the country that it is impossible to know ones neighbors the way my parents did.

Posted by: Locke Common at March 26, 2017 09:02 PM (Gofnu)

164 These myths about pedo rings lend to the helicopter hysteria.

When I was a kid, we just had to steer clear of the gym teachers.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:03 PM (SEy7A)

165 steve and cold bear @ 112-
I'm a Presbyterian because after a lifetime of looking at all of them except islam (devil worship in my opinion), Presbyterian Church In America makes sense to me at age 68. And of course, Romans chapter 8 vs 28-30.

Posted by: Eromero


Yes, after studying the issue for many years, I really think the Calvinists have all of the texts on their side. And they have given this the most rigorous thought, IMHO. I think you've chosen wisely.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:03 PM (vRcUp)

166 I got my learner's permit when I was 14 and my DL when I was 15. The advantages of living in a 'rural' State .

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (IDPbH)

167 143 Warden, you should watch the documentary What Happened To Johnny Gosch. This will clarify why parents don't let their children out of their sights.
********

The odds of a stranger abducting your kid are astronomically low.

I don't even worry about it.

Posted by: Warden at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (YOnlm)

168 Oh, yeah. coils of the red pop gun 'ammo' with a hammer on the sidewalk. Magnifying glass on ants in the summer. Playing with balls of mercury.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (uKRys)

169 because you reviewed the arguments for/against infant baptism and decided the Presbyterians were right?

? Are Presbyterians Anabaptists? I did not know that. Maybe I'll do a little research on them.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (hBig8)

170 I was the "cool" mom when my daughter was small. Mostly because I wasn't interested in involving myself in the kids' squabbles when they were outside playing. If a certain volume was reached, I'd tell them to hold it down. No blood, no involvement from Mom. Too many parents try too hard to "fix" things so it's "fair".

Posted by: Rosasharn at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (PzBTm)

171 152 Here is the thing with my kids - they are not afraid of us. I am not saying they should live in fear or that we should be scary. But with my mom, I knew when the line was crossed, and I was afraid to do it. That kept my dumbassness within reason.



Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:56 PM (HV1LS)

Kids should know the boundaries but shouldn't live in terror of their parents.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:05 PM (0mRoj)

172 its crazy. I got dropped off at the stable and rode my pony and then my horse for miles and MILES. In California, I followed the Santa Ana riverbed, learned to dodge gangs. was aware of who MS13 was in the late 70s. i can barely fucking believe it. I knew how to take the bus in Oahu all the way to Honolulu. I only went to Ala Moana once with a sack lunch, but i tried it out. I walked miles, sister went to Longs Drugstore when mom and dad were in town and died her hair black before they got home, once, when she was 12. I played in the Jungle, and hiked into the mountains to explore the Tsunami shelters. went fishing, got beat up a few times, beat some kid up back a couple times. I had a boy who sexually harassed me as a young teen. My dads answer was "Kick him HARDER!"


so i did. It worked, too.


I knew my family did not like or want me much, i was a literal "Red headed stepchild," with braces and glasses, and a big crooked nose to boot. Most parents thought i was a boy till puberty hit in earnest.


But Grimmy says growin up in the stables taught me consequences. You fuck up too bad you hurt or kill your horse. I saw it happen, too. I got my pony hurt once being reckless. The shame of it nearly 37 years later still burns as fresh as when it happened. I have seen kids these days less aware of consequences and less careful because i do think they are so shielded. they think they are badasses because they have never been in a real fight. I know girls put themselves in bad positions because they dont think three steps ahead to what happens if it all goes sideways. I learned that hiking in the jungle, getting dumped by a pony that ran home a mile away from the stable, and turning my back on a big wave bodysurfing. No mom or dad to save me.


I think coddling does short circuit a kids ability to learn to think "Now what do i do?" and come up with a good plan. Also you learn to calm yourself the fuck down, because when you are out with your friends you dont wanna cry. and if you are alone, crying does fuckall and you learn that quick.


Damn i am glad i got that pony. I really think he saved my life. And as an adult though i wish i had a better relationship with my mom, i gotta admit i am better off than my very spoiled, sheltered, and deeply loved half-sister. Even my stepdad has said so.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:05 PM (YhV5r)

173 These myths about pedo rings lend to the helicopter hysteria.

When I was a kid, we just had to steer clear of the gym teachers.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie


Okay. This is obligatory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp40GyiE_Zg

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (vRcUp)

174
The odds of a stranger abducting your kid are astronomically low.

I don't even worry about it.
Posted by: Warden at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (YOnlm)

+++

Many years ago the media would give out frightening statistics about child abductions, as if some nut was lurking on every corner. They omitted the fact that well over 90% of the abductions were done by one parent or another - custody cases.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (Ivjge)

175 56 Some of my cherished memories as a child was climbing the crabapple tree at my late grandmother's house.

Then picking the crabapples and raining them down on my brothers.

**************

I always found green pine cones to be perfect for putting my buddies' eyes out.

These days, only my Mormon neighbors let their kids climb trees , wallow in mud, play army and the like.

Myself, I lived in the coal country of Southwestern PA, where we climbed abandoned tipples, sneaked into old mines, and once hunkered down under a railroad bridge and let a slow train roll over us.

I was about eight years old.

Then I lived in rural Idaho, where we kids camped outside of town by ourselves over the weekend, roamed around the surrounding desert , and attempted to ride a couple of horses in a corral, by standing on the fence with a loop of bailing twine to use as reins and jumping on any horse that walked past. The horses mostly ignored us, but one bit a kid in the small of his back. Ouch!

A buddy had a practice hand grenade that his older brother, a Korean vet, had given him. It was the old-fashioned pineapple kind, with clip and pin but no explosive.

Once, we surprised a lady neighbor while holding the grenade. When she saw it my friend pulled the pin. She screamed and ran away.

I was about ten then.

Good times. Good times.



Posted by: noam sayen at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (611Lm)

176 I have seen kids these days less aware of consequences and less careful because i do think they are so shielded.

^^^^
This!

Consequences. Kids do not understand them.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (HV1LS)

177 164 These myths about pedo rings lend to the helicopter hysteria.

When I was a kid, we just had to steer clear of the gym teachers.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:03 PM (SEy7A

Watch the Documentary What Happened to Johnny Gosch, on Netflix, and Conspiracy of Silence, on YouTube, which Discovery wasforced to not air.

There is zero doubt that human trafficking rings and networks exist across the country. There is zero doubt that the powerful have less wealthy and less powerful get kids for them.

Don't call something as serious as child trafficking networks myths without looking at evidence on both sides.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (1ZlS3)

178 These myths about pedo rings lend to the helicopter hysteria.
When I was a kid, we just had to steer clear of the gym teachers.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:03 PM (SEy7A)

Yup.....we all knew who the weirdo 40 year old dude was who liked to try and hang with the kids and the teacher who was a little too friendly in school. We avoided them and laughed at them but kept a healthy fear lest they get their hands on ya.

Sex was not as big a thing then...it was there but wasn't front and center in everything like today. We played spin the bottle and doctor and learned how to give hickeys but anything more was a no-no.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (5VlCp)

179 Our parents are more like drones than helicopters ...

Posted by: The Obama Girls at March 26, 2017 09:09 PM (ZcAbN)

180 I'm both saddened and chagrined at the paragraph that begins with, "I'm both saddened and chagrined at." Sorry, no can reedy prose being so needy.

Posted by: Marooned at March 26, 2017 09:09 PM (KdYVH)

181 Part of the difference is the neighbors looked out for one and other, and all of the children in the neighborhood. The worst thing to happen would be a neighbor reporting to my parents about some transgression. My parents knew our neighbors, went to school with them, worked with them, went to church with them. People are so transitory and there are so many people from outside the country that it is impossible to know ones neighbors the way my parents did.
Posted by: Locke Common at March 26, 2017 09:02 PM (Gofnu)

========

I think this is important in a different way. The town I grew up in that bordered Chicago is called Park Ridge. The whole town, population about 40k back then, was blocks, not neighborhoods. Subdivisions did not exist until I was 16 or so, and they were on the outskirts of town as most of the land was long ago spoken for. You could get across the whole town walking or by bike by crossing 3-4 roads with a 35-45 mph speed limit.

Suburbs are not built that way anymore.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 09:10 PM (TBXMD)

182 I didn't get to use a firearm until I was thirrteen.

...and my father stacked wood in my Grandma's basement until I was able to hit a crayon from ten yards.

...and it went through the seven inches of wood, and ninety-year-old bricks and landed in Grandma's front yard.

-With a .22 Winchester, Bolt-Action, spring-loader, (action?).

That's what he called it. I barely remember it.

Then we ate "hamburgs" and baked beans.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:11 PM (6gk0M)

183 There were 3 or 4 of us back in the teens who used to "explore" the developing Spokane area....

...Once, we bicycled out to a few under-construction houses where the floor trusses typical of the era were barely completed and temporarily nailed stringers covered the concrete-framed, basement below.

During that mischief, one of my long-time friends decided [for whatever reason] to crawl out on one of the floor trusses, and about 5 feet out, one of the nailed end sections gave. He fell the typical 8' distance to the concrete basement floor, and I can still see in my mind a fast-forward video of how we'd all be arrested and put on trial for his negligent homicide...

But the first concern was for my "old" friend. How could he survive an 8' fall to concrete while hanging on to a truss?

A few minutes later after we'd rushed to climb down into the "basement" to see how he was, he'd fully recovered and only wondered, "What happened?".

-Just one of a dozen or more "incidents" that young people go through - if allowed - in becoming "adults". It is unfortunate, BUT if we wish to legislate every cut, bruise and bad experience [mental or physical] associated with the [often idiotic] behavior of "growing up", then we will ALSO legislate out EVERY bit of growth associated with the very painful process of become adults in a universe that is DEMONSTRABLY designed NOT to cotter to our every whim...

By the way, two of those friends - including the one who "fell" - have become successful architects....

Posted by: RhS at March 26, 2017 09:12 PM (ylb28)

184 Up till I was 9 we lived just a few blocks from Wrigley Field. I remember my mom packing me a lunch and off I'd go to watch a game. And my parents were very protective overall, but not obsessively so, as the above vignette about freedom indicates.
That was a different world. A more wholesome one in my opinion.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 26, 2017 09:13 PM (FoTxO)

185 167 143 Warden, you should watch the documentary What Happened To Johnny Gosch. This will clarify why parents don't let their children out of their sights.
********

The odds of a stranger abducting your kid are astronomically low.

I don't even worry about it.
Posted by: Warden at March 26, 2017 09:04 PM (YOnlm

This is true. But that does not mean the networks don't exist and thrive today. Because the odds are low does not mean society should tolerate it because it does happen to 1000's of parents a year.

I didn't mean you. I was making a point that the trend started 33 years ago with the national news of Johnny Gosch. That was my point.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 09:14 PM (1ZlS3)

186 Don't call something as serious as child trafficking networks myths without looking at evidence on both sides.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 09:08 PM (1ZlS3)

--and I think in many ways the world (by which I mean America) is a more dangerous place. An 18 year old should-have-been-a-deportee ninth grader in a suburban school? I had not even conceived that such a phenomenon existed until he and his 17 year old freshman friend got rapey and made the news.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)

187 Are Presbyterians Anabaptists? I did not know that. Maybe I'll do a little research on them.

Posted by: t-bird


NO! Presbyterians believe that a Christian baby is born into a covenant relationship with God, and is hence eligible to be baptized.

Baptists on the other hand believe that in order to be baptized, you must give a credible profession of faith.

Then there is the sprinkling vs. immersion issue which is of less importance.

There are texts on both sides, in Acts about "households" getting baptized, suggesting the Presbyterian covenant theory, and then there are passages suggesting that you need to be able to be able to make a profession of faith before being baptized. It's one of those areas, like eschatology that is a mess. Personally, as an outsider, I don't think this should be a really big deal, as with eschatology, because it is so messy and there isn't that much emphasis placed on it. I think the emphasis lies more with justification, ethics and soteriology than with baptism or eschatology, although lots of people (like Jehovah's Witnesses and Harold Camping) stumble and fall into becoming too obsessed with eschatology.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:17 PM (vRcUp)

188 I got all that beat, I grew up in the Bronx in the 70s and 80s.

We used to play manhunt on the roofs of the connected tenanment houses on our block.

This is unheard of now

Posted by: Kreplach at March 26, 2017 09:17 PM (+lv+r)

189 --and I think in many ways the world (by which I mean America) is a more dangerous place. An 18 year old should-have-been-a-deportee ninth grader in a suburban school? I had not even conceived that such a phenomenon existed until he and his 17 year old freshman friend got rapey and made the news.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)


I wasn't surprised by that, in the least. There had already been a bunch of reports of little girls being sexually molested at public schools - IN CLASS!!

So they have the drivers slowing down to 15 mph outside, for no real reason, while the teachers let the little boys sexually molest the little girls under their school desks. That's typical in the world of the leftist.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:18 PM (zc3Db)

190 I think i see parents more adverse to kids getting hurt too.


I was yelled at for not making my girls wear helmets riding when they were 20!!! Holy fucking shit! they are grown women!


i keep seeing friends freak when the kids get hurt, like stitches. my sister and i were such frequent flyers at the clinic in Hauula, that we ended up personal friends with the dr. She just shook her head and muttered "horsegirls." Mom rolled her eyes when we split our chins on ATCs. or the pool or the rocks bodysurfing where we shouldnt. But even mom has changed these days. she looked at my medical records about a year ago and started to cry because I have broken both ankles, all my toes and fingers my forearm on one arm, and my Humerus on the other. Busted my back twice. Now she doesnt want me riding. Begged me not to. tries to make me miserable over it. Even complains to Bebes Boobs Destroy about it!


PFFFFFT. damage done. what are going to do? Im grown. i like what i do, i hate the pain, but cant imagine changing my life now. it would feel like a cage.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:18 PM (YhV5r)

191 The main thing is that these kiddy porn guys are city folks, you don't see that kind of thing in a rural area because its too hard to hide it and there are fewer vulnerable kids. And, like people said above: other parents looked out for other peope's kids too

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2017 09:18 PM (39g3+)

192 Meanwhile, CNN wonders if Trump is already a "lame-duck."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (8HGb7)

193 BB Gun wars.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (89T5c)

194 I was a kid in Ireland till i wa eight,we plyed outside UNSUPERVISED till dark EVERY night.
When we moved to America my brothers and i got our first bikes ,we rode 4/5 miles to school and back every day.
We three had a paper route of 300 papers every morning 7 days a week ,52 weeks a year no days of not Christmas ,not summer,up at 4 am.
I miss the hell out of it.
This was all back in the 50s'

Posted by: jonjo at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (nIGPZ)

195 Dad talked about a "spring" in a bolt-action LR, but I thought that had to do with a magazine.

As you can tell, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I don't mind that, as long as I can learn from The Horde.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (6gk0M)

196 I think part of the rise of over-protectionism is the rise in pedophilia.

A couple of decades ago, a pedophile did what he did but perhaps felt ashamed of his urges.

Now, there are entire websites out there devoted to his hunger. And he knows he can agitate democrats until they declare his lifestyle "the new normal." (You know Hollywood is pushing for this.)

A decade or two ago, a 14 year old raped by two older teens would be headline news across the county. Outrage would soar.

Now, the story is buried because it doesn't fit the narrative. If the story got out, outrage would soar. And outrage only goes one way for them.

So yeah, I blame the internet.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (MZcWR)

197 It's truly a horrible world filled with horrible people.

Posted by: Chris M at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (6RZos)

198 When I was real little, my dad would sometimes let me lower the bulldozer blade or backhoe bucket at the end of his day. Somehow I don't think letting my kid move the mouse to the corner to put my computer to sleep would provide as lasting of a memory...

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 09:20 PM (29QcC)

199 I read this when it came out and fully agreed with it's premise. Only problem is it was written by Hanna rosin, a big govt. Lib tha never misses a chance to advocate for yet another program and bash those that oppose them. Screw her.

Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2017 09:20 PM (NbRJx)

200 The worst for me at 8 was having a friend stuck in quicksand and not being able to get him out or go for help for fear he would sink deeper. Suddenly an adult showed up and was able to straddle the hole and pull him out. Yeah, we were free range kids back then.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2017 09:21 PM (vV/gB)

201 My wife grew up in Detroit. Not in the suburbs. The hood. She rode city buses to school at single digit ages.
But again - no way with our kids.
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:12

My wife grew up in the south Chicago suburbs, Chicago Hts. She and her friends were allowed to take the train downtown ca. 1970 at age 14.

Times have changed, and not for the better.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 09:22 PM (o/90i)

202 Another memory. Both of my Grandmothers were the typical and sweet, indulgent old ladies that are a typical Grandma is when we saw them every couple of weeks. They baked cakes, pies and cookies and gave the 4 of us candy.

That is, UNTIL, my parents had to go to a Convention in Orlando for a week. They both came to look after the 4 of us for that week. OMG! I had not seen two white haired, old, female drill sargeants before. That's when I understood why my 60s parents were the way they were.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 09:22 PM (TBXMD)

203 Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:18 PM (YhV5r)

I remember many trips to the emergency room for myself or my brother (mostly him, as he had a way of doing the most fucked-up things). Nowadays, when you take a kid into an emergency room for a broken bone or bad scrapes for falling off a bike the parent/guardian gets interrogated like a known terrorist with the assumption that they have beaten the kid. It's crazy. And these shithead doctors are the same ones who refuse to report illegals who come in ... but they really love treating American parents as if they are the worst scum on Earth.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:22 PM (zc3Db)

204 Love reading all the Moron childhood memories. They are reminiscent of my own...riding bikes or horses all over town, building model plastic cars and then rolling them down the sidewalk with a lit cherry bomb on board to watch them explode.

When I was five, Dad built me a motorized go-cart re-working and welding a repurposed tricycle frame; used lawn-mower engine and wheels, an old kitchen chair for a "bucket seat." It was actually a contest between him and his uncle to see who could build the fastest one.

My first solo ride ended in a head-on collision with a big oak tree. But I learned pretty quick and never wrecked it again. So, yeah, learning to "drive" at age 5 was pretty cool. Never tired of riding that cart. It's still down in the barn at my parents' house.

Posted by: EyeTest at March 26, 2017 09:22 PM (5x9My)

205 Gushka With The Kitty!

Welcome back, Darlin'.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:24 PM (6gk0M)

206 Sigh! Grew up on a farm (see nic). Two streams, woods, pastures, 2 barns, 3 families, piles of out-buildings, tool rooms including a smithy, roofs to climb on, blackberries to pick, dogs, cats, cows, pigs, and all the rest. A wet sneaker was so common they got a nickname: a soaker. And when it rained, there was a 60' long attic with a train layout.

Mom would call us home with a bell.

I felt sad that I could not give the same gift to my kids. Although, I let them be pretty free-range, too. Not as much as me, but they wandered all over the small town we live in. So there is that.

Posted by: LochLomondFarms at March 26, 2017 09:24 PM (E3khY)

207 Posted by: Kreplach at March 26, 2017 09:17 PM (+lv+r)

===

You lived in the Forbidden Zone!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 26, 2017 09:25 PM (pGvPP)

208 Oh shit...

I forgot that "The Walking Dead" is on.

BBL.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:27 PM (6gk0M)

209 I think one of the things that has caused hyper protectiveness is that people are having fewer kids so a couple that might have had 3-5 kids is having one kid so that child is more valuable.

Hence the extreme overprotectedness.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 26, 2017 09:27 PM (+lv+r)

210 191
The main thing is that these kiddy porn guys are city folks, you don't
see that kind of thing in a rural area because its too hard to hide it
and there are fewer vulnerable kids. And, like people said above: other
parents looked out for other peope's kids too

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2017 09:18 PM (39g3+)

Not true.My best pal as a teen is still close to me. We both knew there were some cowboys you didnt wanna get alone with, always wanted a pal nearby and still stuff happened. This is Clovis County and so cal when it was all farms. Kern to some extent. Every horse show we went to we knew which Judges were horndogs and AVOID THEM. yeah they didnt care if you were 12, if you looked 14.dont tell me it only happened in the city.

and out in the santa ana riverbed we used to know if you saw MS 13 graffitti you make your pony run like HELL, if you saw a mexican man, much less more than one. This was when it was all bean fields and strawberries and tomatoes.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:27 PM (YhV5r)

211 We rode our bikes all day and tromped through the woods, outdoors all day except for Bugs Bunny on Saturday mornings. One reason we could do that was the cultural cohesiveness, the shared ethos of grown-ups. Today, many of them are confused about who belongs in the womens' showers, not to mention the Rockville restrooms.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 26, 2017 09:27 PM (Ndje9)

212 And it should be noted that a lot of what propels this helicopter parent madness isn't just the scare stories that people eat up but the lawyers and the courts. They are ready to slap lawsuits (and the idiot judges ready to let them run amok in the courts) over anything. You can't have people sledding anymore because if someone gets hurt then the landowner is liable. Etc., etc.

This constitutes a great deal of the tightening of the leash around children. It's killed diving boards in pools. It's killed lots of fun stuff ... because the courts have no common sense and are happy to totally screw over society just to get their own jollies, and a few bucks.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:28 PM (zc3Db)

213 It's already all been said by now, probably, but I've marveled and despaired - mostly quietly - about the near-total disappearance of freedom and childhood from, well, childhood.


No kids myself but my peers' kids were really more programmed then sheltered, plus their circumstances were different. We were lucky to grow up in the pre-sheltered era, in a place with lots of canyons to explore and build forts and find dead coyotes and try to kill yourself in using various methods (bike jumps, etc.).


Boys: you'll be home, like animals, when you're hungry, so between school and dinner, please disappear and return without major injuries or the police. That was it.


Girls: not so sure. They generally didn't do the same outdoor stuff, so I don't know where they went or what they did.


Anyway, no amount of chin-pulling over pedo kidnapping rings or anything else will ever make me do anything but shake my head and feel sorry for today's unfree kids.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 09:28 PM (QDnY+)

214 My childhood was in the 50's ... so maybe a little different than today. When I was 6yo, I was taking the bus downtown alone in December (Edmonton Alberta, at that time city of 1/4 mil.) on weekends to visit all the Santa's a nd score candidates and coloring books. At 10yo, I was riding my bike 15 miles out the hiway to visit grandparents. S summers were all outdoors and check, the winters were as well. Skating rinks in every neighborhood and all crowded with us kids. Scout camp was 2 weeks out in the Rockies after we spent the winter meetings building kayaks. Way out in the Rockies ... 30 to 40 miles of logging road.
No tv. Indoors reading or outdoors playing. Eating carrots out of the garden, stealing crabapples out of neighboring yards. Drinking from garden hoses. Playing in the snow at 30 below.
Good times.
Gone forever except for memories.

Posted by: WingNut at March 26, 2017 09:28 PM (H2A/5)

215 197 It's truly a horrible world filled with horrible people.

Posted by: Chris M at March 26, 2017 09:19 PM (6RZos)

The sooner it all burns in cleansing fire the better.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:29 PM (0mRoj)

216 6 So why isn't the Horde discussing the NCAA women's tournament, huh? Haters!!1!
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (8fypK)

___

Not really interested what "student" athletes who can't spell their names do. This goes for football too.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 09:29 PM (vsYKI)

217 Not true.My best pal as a teen is still close to me. We both knew there were some cowboys you didnt wanna get alone with, always wanted a pal nearby and still stuff happened.

Sure, but I was referring to big rings of essentially slavery, with kids being taken and used by an organization, not just some assorted scumbags. They're everywhere, but that's not what Phone of Blake Lively was talking about and what I was responding to.

I am of the opinion that the number of girls that grew up without at least one molestation incident or attempt are in the single digits. But that's a far cry from a pedo ring.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2017 09:30 PM (39g3+)

218 Nice post Warren, very similar to one I wrote a couple of years ago called " a love letter to childhood". Same kind of responses too. It's sad and not good for our kids.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 26, 2017 09:30 PM (QGamW)

219 "Hence the overprotectedness"


True. Because there are fewer or no older siblings to look after them, and act as a sort of buffer....thus easing a parent's piece of mind....

Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (8HGb7)

220 NO! Presbyterians believe...

Thanks! *strikes from list*

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (/wWB4)

221 TPOP for the win.


The suffocation of freedom, spontaneity, excitement, adventure, charity, and life by liability and a judicially-degraded society are behind much of this.


But of course this wet blanket of Stupid and Ridiculous suffocates freedom for adults, not just kids.


I remain astonished that adult pick-up ice hockey can still be played in the US. For a time in the 70s it was just about shut down in SoCal (along with most rinks) because of a liability onslaught, but somehow it survived and continued.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (QDnY+)

222 And these shithead doctors are the same ones who
refuse to report illegals who come in ... but they really love treating
American parents as if they are the worst scum on Earth.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:22 PM (zc3Db)

for a while my mom was a parole officer for child abusers. Not to excuse officious prickiness but some people really are the scum of the earth and hide it well. Both of my husbands were ACTUALLY neglected enough as kids that one had a broken arm for 10 days and nobody noticed. Grimmy ran cross country on a broken leg for two months because his mom called him a complainer and didnt have time to take him to the dr.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (YhV5r)

223 @207

The insane things we used to do.

We used to play in the train layups and run onto the tracks between the trains.

We used to ride our bikes clear across the boro from one burned down neighborhood to the next.

Fun times

Posted by: Kreplach at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (+lv+r)

224 Where is FenelonSpoke when you really need her? She's a theologian - she could back me up.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:32 PM (vRcUp)

225 When I was in high school, getting good grades and SATs was all you needed to get into a good college. Today, everyone has good grades due to grade inflation. So instead of spending time outside doing stuff, kids today need to spend hours and hours on SAT tutotrs and extra curricular activities that look good for college applications. Simply saying " I rode my bike a lot and enjoyed the outdoors" doesn't get many points.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 09:32 PM (vsYKI)

226 I wish I had good childhood nostalgia stories. I hated most of my childhood and wish I could have it somehow removed from my long-term memory.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:32 PM (0mRoj)

227 Now at "Oceanside", The Walking Dead have barnacles.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:33 PM (6gk0M)

228 Thanks, Warden. Great piece. Something has indeed been lost. Can it possibly be unconnected to the new proliferation of young males who are not men, and who are unlikely to ever be men?

Posted by: Splunge at March 26, 2017 09:33 PM (iMxBJ)

229 True. Because there are fewer or no older siblings to look after them, and act as a sort of buffer....thus easing a parent's piece of mind....
Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (8HGb7)

========

True. I am the oldest of 4 within 6 years. Many I knew were the same. If you screw with my brother or sisters, assuming they did not truly do something to deserve it, you would also be dealing with me.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 09:34 PM (B0O0w)

230 Or Fen would give me a smackdown, but I don't think so. I've never been to seminary, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Even though I'm tight, like Hillary on election night.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (vRcUp)

231 @226 ... I hated being a kid. I remember disliking the lack of freedom and hypocritical adults.

I prefer being a hypocritical adult.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (SEy7A)

232 I live in an older negborhood with relatively little traffic and so me very nice parks. And they are empty. I encourage my kids to go out on their own but most of the other parents keep their kids under lock and key, or at least a very short leash. There are a few kids I never see but I know exist but their parents won't even let them play with the our small group we havebecause, I don't know, too dangerous? I absolutely can't imagine the kids putting b together a pick up game of baseball or football without the adults to run it, even if we had enough kids, which we don't . What is wrong with people?

A neighborhood like this ought to be filled with kids playing in
the park, riding bikes, playing hide and seek, cutting across people lawns, etc... Instead just the occasional parent, mostly Mexicans, escorting their kids to the playground, then back home. It is beyond sad and tragic. It is watching the death of the nation.

Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (NbRJx)

233 228 Thanks, Warden. Great piece. Something has indeed been lost. Can it possibly be unconnected to the new proliferation of young males who are not men, and who are unlikely to ever be men?
Posted by: Splunge at March 26, 2017 09:33 PM (iMxBJ)

The younger generation of males has had masculinity drugged, shamed, beaten, pathologized and criminalized out of them. The product of a feminist and feminized society.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (0mRoj)

234 So they have the drivers slowing down to 15 mph outside, for no real reason, while the teachers let the little boys sexually molest the little girls under their school desks. That's typical in the world of the leftist.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:18 PM (zc3Db)

--and of course leftoids shrug it off as The Price of Diversity.

They'll never get around to informing us of the concrete Benefits of Diversity.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 09:36 PM (GsAUU)

235 230 Or Fen would give me a smackdown, but I don't think so. I've never been to seminary, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Even though I'm tight, like Hillary on election night.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (vRcUp)

I'm a lapsed Presbyterian (PCA) of many many years and you are correct.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:37 PM (0mRoj)

236 Good point about only-children and fewer siblings around. Actually that effect multiplies - fewer kids around period, fewer eyes and ears, fewer people to report on things or correct or fix them.


But a possible chicken/egg dynamic here, too.


I frequently lament the disappearance of Americans from America, meaning of course mindset (not ethnicity or birthplace).


Hard to see today's "helicopter parents" or their poor unfree kids *ever* contributing to a resurgence of a freedom-loving, common sensical and fair-minded American mindset. Control, dependence, regulation, lack of freedom, excessive fear - these are the things that have largely supplanted American freedom (at least in urban/suburban areas where most people live).


And just as much as freedom and accountability were part of growing up for people my age, these dreary and awful things are the norm for today's kids, and apparently their parents.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 09:37 PM (QDnY+)

237 Have to pipe up on the allergies thing. Mr. BTEG played in the dirt plenty as a boy; he's now got about six autoimmune disorders. I did play outside as a kid, including the neighborhood creek, but was relatively a lot cleaner. Outgrew a pollen allergy; no other allergies or disorders yet.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at March 26, 2017 09:38 PM (FQKBL)

238 If anyone screwed with my Brother, he'd have to face me. Not many wanted to because I was "Bad News".

Then I learned that a pair of Brothers I always[i/] screwed with robbed a liquor store and one went to jail.

I wasn't that bad-ass.

But then-again, they never played Backyard Sports with us again and I never had to shove them around... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:38 PM (6gk0M)

239 Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:31 PM (YhV5r)

The vast, vast majority of parents are not child abusers. Not only is it wrong to assume guilt in a parent just because a child has a broken arm but the doctors are also not cops and have no business doing anything but their pay-for-fee services - except that they certainly should reporting those who cannot pay their fee because they're illegals.

To turn doctors into cops because "it's for the children!!!" and interrogate and waterboard parents for every broken wrist that comes into a hospital is insane and un-Constitutional, I would venture.

On top of this, the doctors (psychiatrists and psychologists, mostly) have been responsible for more bullshit coming out of kids' mouths being accepted and ruing people's lives than anything. They love to ask kids leading questions and trick them into saying bad shit about their parents or other adults ... for some twisted reason. But those people are rarely ever held responsible and even less so criminally liable.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:38 PM (zc3Db)

240 The younger generation of males has had masculinity drugged, shamed, beaten, pathologized and criminalized out of them. The product of a feminist and feminized society.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (0mRoj)

======

My 20 year old daughter is dating a 27 year old guy for this reason. When I asked her why the disparity, she said " have you seen the man bunned pussies thst are my age?".

Well played, kiddo.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 09:39 PM (B0O0w)

241 Nice close-tag, Slapweasel.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:39 PM (6gk0M)

242 My older brother, who is now deceased, and I were detailed by old Pappy Eromero to tear down some tenant houses on our place. They were about 3/4 mile from our house. I had a brick fall from the top of a chimney, bounce off the floor, then go up and hit me on top my 6 year old punkin head. Knocked a hold about the size of a quarter in my skull. I walked alone 2 miles to my Aunt Pat's house and she took me to the doctor. No sweat.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 09:39 PM (zLDYs)

243 231 @226 ... I hated being a kid. I remember disliking the lack of freedom and hypocritical adults.

I prefer being a hypocritical adult.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:35 PM (SEy7A)

I try not to be a hypocritical adult, even though I suck at life overall. I learned pretty quickly that a great many of the people around me were nasty little shits, the grown ups in positions of authority being the nastiest little shits of all.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:39 PM (0mRoj)

244 In high school I was in marksmanship class and walked to school with a Marlin .22lr single shot bolt action rifle slung over my shoulder.
I was 13 or 14.

Posted by: navybrat at March 26, 2017 09:40 PM (rnOcr)

245 neverskankles with a very good point about the hyper-competition for college admission these days (to "better" schools, at least) driving some of the scheduled drone lives of high schoolers, in any case.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 09:41 PM (QDnY+)

246 Thanks, Warden. Great piece. Something has indeed been lost. Can it possibly be unconnected to the new proliferation of young males who are not men, and who are unlikely to ever be men?
Posted by: Splunge at March 26, 2017 09:33 PM (iMxBJ)

Good point Splunge. We were taught literally by osmosis from family and friends to treat each other with respect, treat women with respect and try and be a man in all things. We failed a lot but we tried. We would never think of taking advantage of a lady, even if we thought we could get "away" with it. No one is teaching young boys today how to become men and what it entails to be a man.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 09:41 PM (5VlCp)

247 Grandson, who is now 16 still reminisces about the road rash G'ma got while playing catch football with him in the street. You just had to catch that ball, huh?

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 09:43 PM (uKRys)

248

The old, better world has passed away. It slipped from our grasp and torments us as an apparition of a loved one that can no longer be embraced.

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2017 09:44 PM (lmIoG)

249 Good point Splunge. We were taught literally by osmosis from family and friends to treat each other with respect, treat women with respect and try and be a man in all things


Eh. I don't believe anyone is automatically due respect or deference because they possess a certain type of genitalia. Respect is earned.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:44 PM (0mRoj)

250 When I was a kid, I got to watch PBS all day and look how special I turned out!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 26, 2017 09:45 PM (ysprU)

251 Good point Splunge. We were taught literally by osmosis from family and friends to treat each other with respect, treat women with respect and try and be a man in all things. We failed a lot but we tried. We would never think of taking advantage of a lady, even if we thought we could get "away" with it. No one is teaching young boys today how to become men and what it entails to be a man.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 09:41 PM (5VlCp)

========

I was taught by my parents to treat all women like I would like guys to treat my sisters or Mom. Problem solved.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 09:45 PM (B0O0w)

252 I'm a lapsed Presbyterian (PCA) of many many years and you are correct.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor


Thank you sir. PCA is a good denomination (R.C. Sproul). As I've said, I'm not religious so I cannot pray for you, but I wish you good luck, and if you're ever in NYC or Lawn Guyland, I will be happy to buy you a drink.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:46 PM (vRcUp)

253 I learned from watching Trading Places that when you in the join, you shouldn't talk like no jive turkey...so close to Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:47 PM (SEy7A)

254 "The old, better world has passed away. It slipped from our grasp and torments us as an apparition of a loved one that can no longer be embraced."
-Posted by: otho at March 26, 2017 09:44 PM (lmIoG)

Holy Shit, Dude. If I ever see you, I'm going to punch you for that haunting statement.

...in the shoulder because of your past goodness.

...but really, really hard.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:48 PM (6gk0M)

255 Early good evening all.

Worked one graveyard shift and already I'm starting to lose track of what day it is. Stopped by to see what was on ace's mind, forgetting that it's still Sunday.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 26, 2017 09:49 PM (Jcg9Q)

256 Thank you sir. PCA is a good denomination (R.C. Sproul). As I've said, I'm not religious so I cannot pray for you, but I wish you good luck, and if you're ever in NYC or Lawn Guyland, I will be happy to buy you a drink.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 09:46 PM (vRcUp)

Thanks. If I'm ever out that way, I'd be most pleased to hoist a libation with you. Unfortunately I don't get out much.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 09:49 PM (0mRoj)

257 Depressing thread. Kids growing up with no experience or expectation of freedom does not bode well for the future. At all.

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2017 09:49 PM (sdi6R)

258 On top of this, the doctors (psychiatrists and
psychologists, mostly) have been responsible for more bullshit coming
out of kids' mouths being accepted and ruing people's lives than
anything. They love to ask kids leading questions and trick them into
saying bad shit about their parents or other adults ... for some twisted
reason. But those people are rarely ever held responsible and even
less so criminally liable.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:38 PM (zc3Db)


eh. im not really arguing with you. i think i agree with you to simply a lesser degree because i got my daughters by having them taken from people who couldnt give them stable home. One went back to the birth family as a mentally handicapped adult (as is her legal right after 20) the fucked up result was not unexpected. She tried and tried to tell people when she lived with them, someone, ANYONE. Drs, teachers, nobody believed her when she was being molested. so its a wash. i often wonder if the really officious pricks are people who missed one and it went real BAD and they are making up for their guilt by treating everyone as guilty now.
Guilt does strange things to people. Just like fear. Also i think its a class thing. Upper middle class families tend to have fewer kids and coddle them more as a sort of virtue signalling. a kind of "I love my kids more than you do" game. I see it all the time around the horse girls today. BTW i never like those people to ride horses on my property and even asked one person to leave because God help me if precious gets hurt. They would sue me for everything i got.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:50 PM (YhV5r)

259 The old, better world has passed away. It slipped from our grasp and torments us as an apparition of a loved one that can no longer be embraced.

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2017 09:44 PM (lmIoG)


Damn...that's heavy. I'm afraid you're right though.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 09:50 PM (aMlLZ)

260 I learned from watching Trading Places that when you in the join, you shouldn't talk like no jive turkey...so close to Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2017 09:47 PM (SEy7A)

Especially if your a big Barry White looking mofo.....in cell number 9.....on the ninth floor.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 09:51 PM (5VlCp)

261 254
"The old, better world has passed away. It slipped from our grasp and
torments us as an apparition of a loved one that can no longer be
embraced."

-Posted by: otho at March 26, 2017 09:44 PM (lmIoG)



Holy Shit, Dude. If I ever see you, I'm going to punch you for that haunting statement.



...in the shoulder because of your past goodness.



...but really, really hard.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:48 PM (6gk0M)

This. SO MUCH THIS. i am calling dibs on the other shoulder. Grimmy says there are times i even LOOK haunted when i see whats going on now. Or maybe like i am going to cry at the simple WRONGNESS of what our world has become.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:53 PM (YhV5r)

262 *Calls Upon IronGrampa*

This WILL get better. We will find our way through the darkness because We Are Americans. Period.

Underneath the filth that the left heaps upon our children, we Survive!

Beneath that filth, we clean the surface to find the Truth.

We are Americans!

Head is held HIGH!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 09:53 PM (6gk0M)

263 @MyOtherFriend: OMG, did U C what @SoAndSo texted!?

Posted by: Kids Today at March 26, 2017 09:53 PM (TqmC9)

264 In plain English, kids today are fucked. Really don't know what else to say.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 09:54 PM (aMlLZ)

265 ont

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 09:55 PM (fZXYQ)

266 re 265: rats again

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 09:56 PM (b7fwp)

267 Kid carried out groceries to car Saturday. Told Mrs. E and me that selfdriving cars would be the best thing that ever happened, but only if everybody had to use one. Didn't ask the little dude what would happen if I didn't want to be controlled that way.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (zLDYs)

268 264
In plain English, kids today are fucked. Really don't know what else to say.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 09:54 PM (aMlLZ)























Bers, i successfully deprogrammed two girls and one will have kids. My hopes are high that she will have many children and raise them all to be fine people. you do what you can. I steal other peoples kids and fix them, when i need extra hands to help me with the horses and i am lonely.


they hated it when i pointed out the communist messages in the cartoons they loved. but they listened. And they were MAD.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:58 PM (YhV5r)

269 Upper middle class families tend to have fewer kids and coddle them more as a sort of virtue signalling. a kind of "I love my kids more than you do" game.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at March 26, 2017 09:50 PM (YhV5r)


I wouldn't write it all off on virtue signalling. Someone above talked about the fact that people have less kids, now. When I grew up an only child was pretty rare. These days an only child is fairly common. And families with only one child (or even just two) have different feelings about them because of the scarcity. Certainly families with one child have everything riding on that one kid. It makes them do funny things. Not always, of course, but generally.

In Israel they have been having larger families - averaging almost 3 kids per. My Israeli friends used to tell me that they liked to joke about what was happening - this was back during all the suicide bombings all over the place. They used to say, "Well, you have two kids for replacement ... and one more ... just in case." It was only partly a joke, really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 09:59 PM (zc3Db)

270 Anyway, no amount of chin-pulling over pedo kidnapping rings or anything else will ever make me do anything but shake my head and feel sorry for today's unfree kids.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 09:28 PM

------------------

Amen, brother.

+++++++++

Girls: not so sure. They generally didn't do the same outdoor stuff, so I don't know where they went or what they did.

-----------------

Can't speak for anyone else, but I was pretty much a tomboy and up for anything the guys were doing---I was as much at home playing with Tonka trucks on dirt piles, the bike jumps, team fights with hedge-apples (those SOBs HURT when they hit you!), as playing with Barbie dolls. I recall being ridiculed and feeling hurt and shut out by the guys on more than a few occasions. And I could only stand in awe when the contest involved seeing who could shoot their pee the furthest...that was before I learned---oh, nevermind.

Posted by: EyeTest at March 26, 2017 10:01 PM (5x9My)

271 "Damn...that's heavy. I'm afraid you're right though."
-Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2017 09:50 PM (aMlLZ)

He ain't right. He turns off lights behind himself. It is a bit poetic, possibly sane, quite status-quo but it is foolhardy.

I choose to relight the lamp where darkness falls and LOVE the part of me that makes me a Rebel.

I choose to hold the torch and Find Our Light, rather than allow our children to fall under darkness.

Stand with me, Brave Patriots.

Light darkness afire with our passion.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:03 PM (6gk0M)

272 I was born in 1962 in coastal Alabama, so I guess things were different for me. You didn't hang around inside unless the weather was gloomy or excessively cold and even then, we'd just put on some jackets.

I lived in the mud. Broke bones. Caught crayfish and tadpoles in creeks and ponds. Stayed out until dark, only returning home for lunch and supper. We played backyard football without pads, rode our bikes without dorky helmets and beat the stew out of each other sometimes.

We played with toy guns, shooting each other dead with glee. We played basketball and baseball to obsession and every game had a score.

We went fishing and swimming in the bayou near where I grew up. We shot squirrels with pellet guns and .22 Marlins. We blew up mailboxes with fireworks and shot bottle rockets at each other. We threw red clay dirt clods at each other. We kissed girls on the lips and some liked it. And some cried.

I'd love to have one day again as a 10 year old, with the right combination of independence and lack of responsibility.

My boys did a lot of the same things I did and my daughter did some non-traditional things like fishing and hunting, but I think I got some odd looks from other parents when they noticed my children had some freedom at the playground, where I watched from a distance while I read or just reveled in the beauty of a sunny day.

"Aren't you worried about them getting kidnapped?" their disapproving expressions told me. No. The chances of that happening are slim to none and Papa Bear was never a quick sprint away.

I pity this modern generation who is so hermetically sealed in a cocoon of overindulgence and worry. How will they learn critical life lessons by spending the golden days of their childhood in front of a computer or video game console safe from physical danger?

Posted by: grizzledcoastie at March 26, 2017 10:03 PM (GV08/)

273 Posted by: grizzledcoastie at March 26, 2017 10:03 PM (GV08/)

Bless you, Brother. I did the same thing in NorthEast Ohio.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 10:10 PM (6gk0M)

274 I know I spoil my kids rotten. I probably shouldn't. But fuck it, I can afford it and I'm going to give them everything I wish I could have had. They may not have the freedom I had, but damn they'll have a VERY comfortable prison.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 10:13 PM (vsYKI)

275 In one city where I lived from age 4 to 7 we were right on the outskirts bordered on two sides by forest. We'd play there all year round including winter days. About half a mile in it was like the movie Jeremiah Johnson.

There was no expectation my mom would see us more than twice a day.

Posted by: bobbymike at March 26, 2017 10:15 PM (qfMYw)

276 There was no expectation my mom would see us more than twice a day.

Posted by: bobbymike at March 26, 2017 10:15 PM (qfMYw)


"Just make sure you're home for dinner."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2017 10:16 PM (zc3Db)

277 Lady bulldogs won. Big.

That would be the Mississippi State women's basketball team-- most of whose members had childhoods more closely resembling those everyone is being nostalgic about. Because they grew up in fucking rural Mississippi. And learned how to play b'ball.

I like reading the comments here, but those about women's college basketball pissed me off.

My dad-- the one who played king of the hill with us and the neighbor kids-- had a saying: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

So you either say something nice about the Lady Bulldogs, or ... .

Posted by: Marica at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (nlXDo)

278 Yes... my children have no concept of the freedom that I enjoyed when I was young.

But I'm to blame, also.

I let my daughter walk somewhere by herself for the first time (Walgreens) when she was twelve, and I trailed after her, hiding behind trees all the way. I was babysitting other people's infants into the wee hours of the morning when I was eleven.

Posted by: Gem at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (uaHyk)

279 Can't speak for anyone else, but I was pretty much a tomboy and up for anything the guys were doing---I was as much at home playing with Tonka trucks on dirt piles, the bike jumps, team fights with hedge-apples (those SOBs HURT when they hit you!), as playing with Barbie dolls. I recall being ridiculed and feeling hurt and shut out by the guys on more than a few occasions. And I could only stand in awe when the contest involved seeing who could shoot their pee the furthest...that was before I learned---oh, nevermind.
Posted by: EyeTest at March 26, 2017 10:01 PM (5x9My)

---

*fistbump*

Posted by: SMFH at March 26, 2017 10:18 PM (sB1y1)

280 Other posts have mentioned the adults but helicopter parents are mostly those who have not exited childhood themselves.

In their minds and in their statements they may want to protect their kids but it's really about protecting themselves.

Snowflakes on campus are a plague but their indulgent parents are equally to blame for sheltering them to the point where mere dissent sends them into a panic.

Posted by: Patchy at March 26, 2017 10:19 PM (U40VA)

281 Here's a blast from the past: when is the last time you saw kids playing touch football in the street?

I spent my whole boyhood doing that (during football season). During baseball season when we weren't actually playing the game we'd put down the garage door and hit while one of us pitched.

I've played baseball all my life, but the game I most enjoyed was when I was 12, and playing in the Little League All-Star tournament. We'd been eliminated in a squeaker, and felt we'd been robbed. The next day the doorbell rang, and the guys from the ill-fated All-Star team were outside on their bikes, and were rounding up the guys to play.

We went to an asphalt-covered church parking lot and played with a rubber-coated ball (one of those Korean jobs), and called our own balls and strikes and outs, not an adult in sight.

It was the most fun game I've ever played.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 10:34 PM (SRKgf)

282 I let my daughter walk somewhere by herself for the
first time (Walgreens) when she was twelve, and I trailed after her,
hiding behind trees all the way. I was babysitting other people's
infants into the wee hours of the morning when I was eleven.





Posted by: Gem at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (uaHyk)

I walked alone a half mile to elementary school, crossing a major thoroughfare in the process - at age six. My wife couldn't believe it. We now live a few miles away, so I took her there so she could trace the route for herself.In fairness, I wouldn't have let either of my kids do that at six, but back then, I thought nothing of it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (SRKgf)

283 Sorry I am always late for Warden's posts. would like to see more. Many of the same childhood memories.

Posted by: RM at March 26, 2017 10:45 PM (trBqh)

284 I walked alone a half mile to elementary school, crossing a major thoroughfare in the process - at age six. My wife couldn't believe it. We now live a few miles away, so I took her there so she could trace the route for herself.In fairness, I wouldn't have let either of my kids do that at six, but back then, I thought nothing of it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2017 10:37 PM (SRKgf)

Oh, yes. Six-years old was get with the program age. We only had a three block walk to school, but I was ironing my own uniform blouses, making grilled cheese for lunch, and scrubbing out toilets with ammonia when I was in first grade.

Posted by: Gem at March 26, 2017 10:49 PM (uaHyk)

285 As grade school kids in the early '60s in PA we'd play in the strip mines. We'd kill rats with slingshots and lay them on the tracks for the coal train to decapitate.

Posted by: Cosda at March 26, 2017 11:19 PM (Fg+KS)

286 What I notice about these reminiscences is the word "we." I envy you people.

Former farm boy here. SE Kansas. 13 miles from nearest town of consequence. Five miles from two villages, one of which was unexplored territory. Fat, didn't like the outdoors, only rode my bike a half-mile to the corner and back again. One younger sister.

Lonely.

Bookworm that I was, I still would climb one tree (the only one I could handle -- never did learn to shin them), play with my Major Matt Mason gear in the empty loft of one barn, climb the hay bales in the other barn, and climb into the hopper of the combine, my getaway spot. Oh yeah -- I also played in the sand in a former water trough. That thing was concrete, and I would skin my knuckles digging in the sand. Also would frequently find balls of black gunk in there. Would throw them out and keep on digging. Learned many years later that they were cat turds.

I like board games, and I had a lot, but they mostly sat on shelves. My sister would play with me, but -- sister. Sometimes I could get the folks to play. (That continues to this day -- the kids aren't into board games.)

On top of that, I was Frank Burns. I really think I would not have wanted to play with most of you; you come across as having been too rough and mischievous for me. If that makes me a prig, so be it. I am much more crude now at 55. Still try to be respectful and helpful. And I think vandals should be shot.

Don't think the wife and I were helicopter parents. We would take the kids to parks rather than make them walk. Too far and too much traffic to do otherwise. Besides, Dad was needed to push the swings.

Both boys achieved Eagle Scout, and the daughter is a Girl Scout, but none of them is an outdoors type.

But I do agree with you: Something has been lost, and it will be difficult to regain it.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 26, 2017 11:39 PM (83Ufd)

287 This is a great post.

I grew up in a very rural area in the 70s and 80s. We had three TV channels that came in clear without having to turn the antenna. We were pretty isolated.

My dad was a lineman for the local utility and my mom worked in the public school system so she was home on snow days and vacations. We raised livestock and grew much of our own food so that meant a lot of time spent dealing with that. Summer mornings were spent picking strawberries or weeding the beans. Sometimes we would play in the pasture with the new calves (Dad wasn't pleased) or we would swing from our tree swings in the woods for hours. As the veggies started to come in we would be on duty to shell peas or snap beans or other garden related chores.

About once a week or so I would bike the three miles to and from the library to feed my book fix. I'd check out 5-6 books at a time to keep me. Occasionally I would bike down to the village to hang with friends. I had a childhood friend who was #3 of five kids, and their house was the hub of kid activity. With that many kids there was always a gang available for softball or kickball. Arrangements for play dates happened only because we lived so far away from each other.

Last week DH and I were across the street hanging with the neighbors when they brought out a foosball like NHL table hockey game. Our friend's two little boys were fascinated with the whole thing; how you had to strategically move the levers to flip the puck up and down the ice. We all had a blast competing against each other. It was so low tech but we got caught up in it. Just a simple game but so much fun.

Posted by: Pickleweasel (longtime lurker turned poster) at March 26, 2017 11:46 PM (GF2c6)

288 Too bad this is abandoned thread about children, I am 65 the things I have seen as a child, like tears in the rain.

Posted by: drunkineastmesa at March 26, 2017 11:52 PM (2N9Ov)

289 Thell end up with behavioral disorders, It the in thing if you've been watching. Or on drugs, or in jail, or just barely functional sociopaths unable to uphold a simple social contract like working a job.

Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2017 11:53 PM (CQzD3)

290 "But I do agree with you: Something has been lost, and it will be difficult to regain it."

No! No! All is not lost. It's right here. It's right where you are.

Nothing has been lost.

Oh man. I din't think about this possibility. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF CONGRESS???

Posted by: Marica at March 26, 2017 11:55 PM (nlXDo)

291 My Mom, Cica 1963, "Don't come home unless your bleading!!!!"

Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2017 11:58 PM (CQzD3)

292 "Tears in the rain", indead. All mankind's end.

Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2017 11:59 PM (CQzD3)

293 Another scouter (and former Boy Scout) here. Despite the policies passed recently, the organization is still turning out great young men (and women in the Venturing side). In 10 years, our troop has turned out 38 Eagle Scouts and I am proud of every single one not only for his accomplishments in scouts, but his accomplishments out of scouts. Last summer we took 12 boys canoeing in the boundary waters for 10 days, covering over 100 miles without any communication other than from fellow canoeists. This year, 8 boys are backpacking 12 days in the mountains of New Mexico (Philmont). Based on my vantage point, there is plenty to be optimistic about.

Posted by: Tickedoff at March 27, 2017 12:17 AM (NxG7K)

294 Thank you. Well said.

Once I started school, I'd hang out at my friends houses after school and weekends. All within about 3 blocks of my house. When my mom wanted me home, she'd ring this great bell that our uncle gave us that was mounted on the back porch. CLANG, CLANG, CLANG. You could hear that sucker in tacoma, I bet.

When I changed schools in 4th grade, i read the city bus the 3 miles to and from. Until I found if I left 30 minutes earlier, I could walk and keep the 20 cents fare (This was the 60s) .All my parents said was 'DON'T BE LATE FOR SCHOOL'.

Starting about 6th grade, saturdays and school holidays would find me riding my bike to my cousins' house then we'd all walk down to check out the St Vinnie's, Veteran's Thrift Shop, surplus places along south Lake Union (now Amazonville) and north of the Market. All my parents said was, "If you are late for dinner, you're on your own for dinner."



Posted by: Just John at March 27, 2017 12:30 AM (1yGmM)

295 284 Six-years old was get with the program age. We only had a three block walk to school, but I was ironing my own uniform blouses, making grilled cheese for lunch, and scrubbing out toilets with ammonia when I was in first grade.


I truly believe that perhaps the most important words my other ever spoke to my twin and me were "you boys are in second grade, you're old enough to make your own lunches for school."

I don't think either of my parents ever saw any of us get on or off a school bus. "What are you doing inside??!? Go out and play!"

Posted by: LibertyDefender at March 27, 2017 12:43 AM (sKJ3P)

296 I have to send my kids to Russia to run around as freely as I did when I was a kid. Think about that one for a minute.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at March 27, 2017 12:44 AM (W7701)

297 My mother, not my other.

Posted by: LibertyDefender at March 27, 2017 12:44 AM (sKJ3P)

298 Is it REALLY "a different world now"? Seriously? has human nature changed, or something?

Bull-oney.

We just allow ourselves to get stampeded by the constant MEDIA drumbeat, "Dangerous World! Dangerous World! Dangerous World!"

The better to tame us. The better to make compliant slaves of us all. It's up to us, no one else, to make sure our kids have the freedom we had.

Posted by: Beverly at March 27, 2017 01:02 AM (Bxx8Q)

299 I lived largely in what would be called suburbia for the first 17 years I had kids. And my kids wandered around much more freely then other kids. Pre-cell phone days, too. They just had to let us know where they were going. As they got older, they realized they were being allowed to go by themselves to friend's homes that were blocks and blocks away. But that if the friend was invited to out place, mom or dad had to drive.

My youngest was born in ruralville. There's this misperception that ruralville roads are safer for kids on bicycles. They're not; they're far more dangerous. His friends live literally miles away. He's always been driven to their homes. He's always been free to wander around the yard or neighborhood. But hasn't- he had videogames. His older siblings didn't. Now that he can drive- he's got more freedom then most of his friends to drive around. But that's because we trust him. And he let's us know which of his friends aren't trustworthy out of their parent's sight. He just banned two of them from ever staying overnight at our place again because they don't know how to behave. He did- not us. We slept through the misbehavior.

Posted by: gospace at March 27, 2017 01:48 AM (mkqcx)

300 "I'm both saddened and chagrined at the fact that neither of my boys, ages 5 and 10, have every climbed a tree, went creek walking or ran the neighborhood past dark. They've never played kick the can, toilet papered a house or swam in a pond."

That is horrible and all your fault and you know it.

Posted by: SciVo at March 27, 2017 03:26 AM (PlJlM)

301 "A couple of years back we camped at Prince Gallitzin State Park in PA.

"We took the chirruns, and we gave them their bikes and when to return if they wanted to eat, and to return when it was dark. We were able to let them go, completely. Other campers were doing the same.

"It was fantastic. It should always be thus."

That sounds awesome.

Posted by: SciVo at March 27, 2017 04:08 AM (PlJlM)

302 Well, we knew not to go out to Stinkeye Pete's place. It wasn't a place so much as a ditch under a bridge.

He'd twitch suddenly and shout 'motherfucker' and swim in the muddy spillway down there when it stormed.

One day he was gone.



Posted by: Rick at March 27, 2017 04:59 AM (0w6rb)

Open Thread For Various Discussions About Everything Except Dresses

pepper spray.jpg

Posted by: CBD at 06:29 PM




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1 St

Posted by: Straight Razor at March 26, 2017 06:31 PM (lY6OQ)

2 Sorry, CBD! Thanks for not yelling at me for polluting the food thread.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:32 PM (sBOL1)

3 Wow! I'm usually around 300 or so.

Posted by: Straight Razor at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (lY6OQ)

4 Go get em

Posted by: not gonna say it at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (6CZio)

5 First one to talk about dresses, spends a night in the box.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (LAe3v)

6 What about pleated skirts?

Posted by: Meremortal at March 26, 2017 06:34 PM (3myMJ)

7 Love the video.

Her dr***, not so much.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:35 PM (sBOL1)

8 Everybody must still be discussing oysters.

Posted by: Straight Razor at March 26, 2017 06:36 PM (lY6OQ)

9 Whose box?
Makes a difference you know.

Posted by: not gonna say it at March 26, 2017 06:36 PM (6CZio)

10 Everything except dresses??? Whut? Is this the Soviet Union or something???

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:37 PM (dFi94)

11
I would assume that if someone sprayed another person with pepper spray that kicking their ass in retribution is not only legal but required.

But to what level of ass-kicking? Is there a dollar limit of hospitalization costs that they incur, since they started it?

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:37 PM (ZFUt7)

12 @8
I believe you had the duty SR.

Posted by: not gonna say it at March 26, 2017 06:37 PM (6CZio)

13 Can we talk about hippies? It says Hippie at the top. Is that a topic for talking?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (dFi94)

14 Problem was it was Leftists using that pepper spray on Pro Trump people

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (GPaiX)

15 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?

Posted by: freaked at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (BO/km)

16 Because I was looking at some hippie dresses on Friday with my sister.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (dFi94)

17 If anyone still cares, and probably no one does, my spirit animal has still not had her baby giraffe yet.

I went overdue with my first two kids, but by my fourth, I was popping them out early. C'mon April, get with the program.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:39 PM (sBOL1)

18 CBD, Thanks for this new thread. I get to see those SJWs maced and laugh at the no-dress discussion theme. (Although I'm sure bluebell will look lovely in that dress.)

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 06:39 PM (V+03K)

19 Sheesh, almost 10 minutes in, and not a single mention of hittability in photo 1. What's happened to you people? Are you all discussing dresses offline?

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 06:39 PM (LAe3v)

20 I suppose shoe talk is out of the question?

Posted by: Zombie Imelda Marcos at March 26, 2017 06:39 PM (Tyii7)

21 Because I was looking at some hippie dresses on Friday with my sister.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (dFi94)

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Is this the sister that moved away (Colorado, maybe?)

Find anything good?

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:40 PM (sBOL1)

22 I suppose shoe talk is out of the question?


Posted by: Zombie Imelda Marcos at March 26, 2017 06:39 PM (Tyii7)
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I bought three pair last week. Was that wrong?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:40 PM (dFi94)

23 20
I suppose shoe talk is out of the question?


Posted by: Zombie Imelda Marcos


Sequins? What about sequins?

Posted by: Richard Simmons at March 26, 2017 06:40 PM (LAe3v)

24 Dammit. I was going to describe this dress that I'm about to remove, and its removal, in great detail. But it's been expressly forbidden. Oh well!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 06:40 PM (tHwdc)

25 I wonder if there is any new tech in the works for controlling professional mobs of dirty hippies?

Some companies out there must be working on sound or water or waves of drone stingers that can herd the paid hippie masses into waiting scoops?

Be fun to watch and open up a whole new field of employment for those who want jobs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (5VlCp)

26 Problem was it was Leftists using that pepper spray on Pro Trump people
Posted by: Skip 

Well I read the Washington Post today sir and they certainly didn't see the actual events that way!

(Unless you read, very, very, very carefully.)

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (ZFUt7)

27 I bought three pair last week. Was that wrong?
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:40 PM (dFi94)
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That is never wrong.

I only bought one. I need to catch up.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (sBOL1)

28 I love that "Inspirational" poster. heh,

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (uKRys)

29 They be zeros pep.

Posted by: freaked at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (BO/km)

30 Is it just me or does Howard Dean look like Lee Harvey Oswald ? I've always thought that he did. heh.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (G1lQo)

31 (Thank you, JTB.)

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (sBOL1)

32 24
Dammit. I was going to describe this dress that I'm about to remove, and
its removal, in great detail. But it's been expressly forbidden. Oh
well!


Look, every rule has to have some flexibility built in, or we're just being pedantic. I don't want it said that I'm pedantic.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (LAe3v)

33 I bought three pair last week. Was that wrong?

Only if you haven't filled six walk-in closets yet, dear.

Posted by: Zombie Imelda Marcos at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (Tyii7)

34 15 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?
Posted by: freaked
______

Yes.

Posted by: Huma's Lawyer at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (2Omzf)

35 Is this the sister that moved away (Colorado, maybe?)



Find anything good?



Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:40 PM (sBOL1)
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Yes, my sister flew in for about a week to help my mom navigate some of the legal papers involved with my dad's care. We went downtown Lake Geneva - they have a lot of resort wear and some of it borders on hippie sometimes. I saw some skirts (NOT DRESSES CBD) but they were too long for me.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (dFi94)

36 private to Jack Straw: agreed on rum being Nature's Perfect Food or whatever it is that you said. I do love rum.

Have been to the Cruzan distillery in St. Croix and it is the deal of the century. $5 for the tour. You get to see the molasses cooking and really get up close and personal to the process.

At the end, you get to try 2 shots AND you get 2 mixed drinks.

Did I mention $5?

Despite the fact that Beam people bought this family business, it is still run like the family business.

Same day went over to the Diageo "Captain Morgan Experience." Captain Morgan, the rum, has no real connection to STX, though Captain Morgan the pirate is rumored to have anchored there. But anyway, the "Experience" is a big corporate multimedia production chock full of commercials for Captain Morgan.

For $10 you get to ride a little pirate ship themed tram around the plant and see, from the outside, the big industrial distillery. If you didn't know better it could be an oil refinery (like the one you can see from the parking lot). It is huge. Your fee gets you a token for 1 mixed drink.

Can you tell which one I liked better?

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (HV1LS)

37 Can we talk about kilts?

Posted by: ALH at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (Z56vq)

38 "First one to talk about dresses, spends a night in the box."

Old and busted: The Barrel.

The new hotness: The Box.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (noWW6)

39 Anybody wanna see a picture of my new Yamaha outboard? No pockets.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (/tuJf)

40 fun to watch and open up a whole new field of employment for those who want jobs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 06:41 PM (5VlCp)

Where do I apply!

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (uKRys)

41 Anybody wanna see a picture of my new Yamaha outboard? No pockets.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (/tuJf)

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No pockets? I hope it has sleeves, at least.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:45 PM (sBOL1)

42 I'm wearing an old housedre**. It's 80 degrees outside and this is my go to comfie outfit when it's hot.

Not ready to turn on the a/c yet.

Posted by: ALH at March 26, 2017 06:45 PM (Z56vq)

43 Man o Man is North Carolina going to end up playing South Carolina in the Final Four?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:45 PM (dFi94)

44 grammie winger...hippy dresses can be cute. i've got a couple that i love.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 06:46 PM (fZXYQ)

45 39 Anybody wanna see a picture of my new Yamaha outboard? No pockets.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (/tuJf)

++++

Sure.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 06:46 PM (Ivjge)

46 Grammie that would have to be the final, USC is up against Gonzaga.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:46 PM (HV1LS)

47 This will never not be funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuBMWgMn52I

#Feelthebern

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 06:46 PM (8nWyX)

48 Since it's Sunday evening, the menu is "Fend for Yourself"

I had popcorn, he made himself an egg sandwich.

Posted by: ALH at March 26, 2017 06:47 PM (Z56vq)

49 Big Black Max was Winners Dog (best non-champion male of his breed) at today's show in Fort Worth for a 4-point major, putting him at 12 of the 15 he needs. He had already won the title of "Dog We Want Most to Finish So We Never Have to Show Him Again".

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 06:47 PM (gYfDM)

50
Yamaha is like the Rhode Island of outboard engines.

Mercury. Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:48 PM (ZFUt7)

51 I'm gonna break a rule here to tell Bluebell that she is going to look stunning in that dress.

I wouldn't try a flask in the pocket, though. I think it would make to cute pleats lay funny.

Posted by: Emmie at March 26, 2017 06:48 PM (xVuS6)

52 @47 hippies cry. Sad.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:48 PM (HV1LS)

53 grammie winger...hippy dresses can be cute. i've got a couple that i love.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 06:46 PM (fZXYQ)
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I love hippie dre**eS. The only bad thing is I have to wear a bra, not like the good old days when things pointed east. Now they point south, and need a puppet master.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:48 PM (dFi94)

54 Bluebelle.
I just looked. Great dress.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:49 PM (0tfLf)

55 >>Can you tell which one I liked better?

That's a tough one.

A good friend of mine grew up in St Croix and moved back a couple years ago to be a charter captain. Bastard.

When I lived in PR we used to do the tour when we were feeling particular broke or thirsty or both. They used to have a distillery right across San Juan harbor, might still be there for all I know. And back then the tour was free and so was the complimentary rum drinks on their outdoor patio.

Yea it was Bacardi but it was free and we were young and stupid and I love me some rum.

You inspired me to pour a Mt Gay and tonic. Cheers!

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:49 PM (/tuJf)

56
#BlackOutboardsMatter

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:49 PM (ZFUt7)

57 Big Black Max was Winners Dog (best non-champion
male of his breed) at today's show in Fort Worth for a 4-point major,
putting him at 12 of the 15 he needs. He had already won the title of
"Dog We Want Most to Finish So We Never Have to Show Him Again".

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 06:47 PM (gYfDM)
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That's amazing, Kodos. Do dog shows go year round, or is there a limited season?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:50 PM (dFi94)

58 Payless filed for bankruptcy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)

59 Oh, and totally agree with the no flask in the dress pocket.

But man is a resourceful animal. I provide solutions:

http://preview.alturl.com/x2u5e

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:50 PM (HV1LS)

60 10 Everything except dresses??? Whut? Is this the Soviet Union or something???
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:37 PM (dFi94)

******

Svimmvear!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:51 PM (0tfLf)

61 Emmie - it will be open bar, I'm sure of that. No need for a flask!

Diogenes - thank you! I didn't think any men would even bother to look! Not that anyone would care except my dress posse that helped me tremendously last weekened.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:51 PM (sBOL1)

62 https://tinyurl.com/n6yf8bf
Protestors spraying Trump supporters

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 06:51 PM (GPaiX)

63 @grammie @59 can apply for you too....

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:52 PM (HV1LS)

64 >>Mercury. Accept no substitutes.

Motorhead, please. Mercury's are for poseurs.

I was gonna go for a Suzuki cause they are a tremendously underrated motor and we sell them (mostly cause we sell them) but I had a weight issue to deal with.

Seriously, Mercurys just aren't a thing here and trying to find a good Merc mechanic or resell the boat would be harder.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:52 PM (/tuJf)

65 Good heavens, blaster. How do you find these things?

No, don't answer that.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:53 PM (sBOL1)

66 @grammie @59 can apply for you too....

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:52 PM (HV1LS)
==============

Thank you blaster! You're so thoughtful. Always thinking of others.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:53 PM (dFi94)

67 Thanks for announcing "Nood", you miscreants.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:53 PM (6gk0M)

68
Payless filed for bankruptcy. 
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Damn. Going to have to break that news to the wife gently. One of her greatest joys in life is paying full price for her shoes and getting me a pair of sneakers half off.

BoGO. Or something. Some high end math involved.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:53 PM (ZFUt7)

69 Bluebell.
I'm in a house full of wemenzs.
Spousal unit, daughters and one dog. (I decided not to say bitch cause I'm a swell guy.)
So yeah. I can do fashion.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:53 PM (0tfLf)

70 So I followed bluebells link. Now all my Q ads are dresses. Sigh.

Facebook tempted me with a watch ad, one of those things where you can get in early on the investment blah blah blah. Because, you know, R&D on watches.

Whatever.

Facebook will NOT stop hounding me about watches.

Some of which are pretty darned cool and I Must. Not. Click.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:54 PM (HV1LS)

71 Lots and lots of new stuff in my shop. So many here have been good to me and I appreciate it so much. So many pretty's there... check it out Just click on ma nic ya'll...

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at March 26, 2017 06:54 PM (CNHr1)

72 Aw, blaster, you looked too? How sweet.

Sorry about the dress ads, though. Good thing Mrs. blaster is out of town. Start looking up guns and other manly stuff right away.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (sBOL1)

73 Do dog shows go year round, or is there a limited season?

Apart from a couple of weeks at the end of December, they're year-round.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (K2ygU)

74 Too late for the movie thread, I watched 'The Founder' yesterday/this morning, a movie about Ray Kroc, the guy who took McDonald's national.

Michael Keaton does a really good performance. What you think of Ray Kroc after it's all over, I'll leave to you to decide.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (oVJmc)

75 Blaster.
Quick fix. Do a search for Victoria's Secret.
Problem solved.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (0tfLf)

76 Jewells I don't know if you saw but I volunteered you to design ace's wedding ring.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (HV1LS)

77 Open Thread For Various Discussions About Everything Except Dresses

Don't listen to him. Once the number of comments goes past 100, you have a constitutional right to comment about anything you want, and there's nothing that he can do about it.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at March 26, 2017 06:56 PM (vRcUp)

78 I love that the alien does the Nuh-Uh Honey head bob and finger wave.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:57 PM (PhYV5)

79
Seriously, Mercurys just aren't a thing here and trying to find a good Merc mechanic or resell the boat would be harder.
Posted by: JackStraw

That's interesting. Here -- in an area I would describe as from NJ, DE, VA, NC, SC -- Mercury dealers are everywhere.
Evinrude probably second place.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:57 PM (ZFUt7)

80 49 ... Kodos, congrats on today's success at the show.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 06:57 PM (V+03K)

81 @Diogenes well took your advice and now my Q ads are for Toyotas and cheap eyeglasses.

Not sure how that works but now I will listen to bluebell and look up guns and ammo.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:58 PM (HV1LS)

82 Cop shoots hippie's therapy dog.
Hippie starts crying hysterically as her beloved dog bleeds out on the sidewalk.
Cop tells her to "Shut the fuck up or I'll give you something to cry about!"
Hippie can't stop crying.
Cop pepper sprays hippie.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 06:58 PM (0mRoj)

83 Pepper spray is organic? Gosh, I'm going to have to convince them that it's for their own good. Might work, once. Assuming they just smoked organic herb, I might get it in several times. :p

Posted by: Doom at March 26, 2017 06:58 PM (ChhNd)

84 I love that the alien does the Nuh-Uh Honey head bob and finger wave.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:57 PM (PhYV5)

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Second best part, next to the disco ball.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:58 PM (sBOL1)

85 62 https://tinyurl.com/n6yf8bf
Protestors spraying Trump supporters
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 06:51 PM (GPaiX)

+++

The way Yahoo sees it, Trump supporters and "counter-supporters" clashed at rally - in other words, not one side is chastised for the disruption, although they did manage to point out that a few of the "counter-supporters" were arrested.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 06:58 PM (Ivjge)

86 Whoever was recommending Seattle as a place for oysters, maybe not so much for a while.

http://tinyurl.com/kyoc598

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (/tuJf)

87 Evninkvear!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (FtrY1)

88 58: NOOOOO. Payless is the only place I don't mind for buying shoes. They have real feet sizes and they don't insist on helping you.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (Jen0I)

89 New report, I searched for cheaper than dirt and followed google's link, and now my Q ads are for Verizon FiOS which is already my provider.

So I guess I have canceled out my cookies.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (HV1LS)

90 Almost posted a few times ( but don't think I did)
Anyone know of Vic's whereabouts today?

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 07:00 PM (GPaiX)

91 Facebook will NOT stop hounding me about watches.

Some of which are pretty darned cool and I Must. Not. Click.
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:54 PM (HV1LS)


Seiko 5 Automatic.

It was good enough for Gene Kranz, I see no reason to dispute his opinion.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 07:00 PM (8nWyX)

92 Man what a game! (nobody better mention Wisconsin)

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:00 PM (dFi94)

93 Blaster
It worked too well for me.
Mrs D was wanting to know wtf I was searching???
Had to blow $60 on something for her.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:01 PM (0tfLf)

94 We need a national melt a special snowflake day, not literally melt, but a day to taunt and tease them and make them wear purple pussy hats knitted from the wool of organic sheep. Alas, not sure Paul Ryan can marshall that through the House.

Posted by: colfax mingo at March 26, 2017 07:02 PM (PX+kj)

95 Look, every rule has to have some flexibility built in, or we're just being pedantic. I don't want it said that I'm pedantic.


Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (LAe3v)

Nah, I wouldn't want the banhammer to fall on my nakedness.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 07:02 PM (tHwdc)

96 >>That's interesting. Here -- in an area I would describe as from NJ, DE, VA, NC, SC -- Mercury dealers are everywhere.
Evinrude probably second place.

Huh, that is weird. Up here it's Yamaha by a long margin, then Suzuki and both Merc and Evinrude are back in the pack. The e-tec is interesting but again, lack of guys who can work on it up here I think holds the market down.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:02 PM (/tuJf)

97 I guess pantsuits are still on the approved list?

Posted by: Some Fat Broad in Chappaqua at March 26, 2017 07:03 PM (oVJmc)

98 Svimmvear!
Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:51 PM (0tfLf)

Evninkvear!
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (FtrY1)
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Never not funny: https://youtu.be/5CaMUfxVJVQ

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 07:03 PM (sBOL1)

99 This will never not be funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuBMWgMn52I

#Feelthebern

Posted by: hogmartin


That idiot certainly deserved it, but I don't feel comfortable about the fact that they've degenerated into rabid animals. We shouldn't have to deal with that sh*t.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:04 PM (vRcUp)

100 Seiko 5 Automatic.

It was good enough for Gene Kranz, I see no reason to dispute his opinion.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 07:00 PM (8nWyX)


My arms are quite hirsute I can't wear steel bracelets, but I googled this and their is a canvas band one at Jet.com for $114.

Must. Not. Click.

Yeah, I like watches.

I am not like a Tag or Rolex guy (cannot afford) but I like big dials. Current king of my watch castle is a Diesel Big Daddy 2.0 in Red. And if you google that no, we did NOT pay that (birthday gift from wifey).





Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:04 PM (HV1LS)

101 >>>I love hippie dre**eS.

i wear matching colored bras and thin, 3/4 sleeve ralph lauren sweaters with mine.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 07:04 PM (fZXYQ)

102 Hippie Tears are viagra for the pineal gland.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 07:04 PM (1ZlS3)

103 Too bad Wisconsin Ohio State didn't even come close to anything resembling the rankings this season.

In my 90's and Aughts Brackets, I used to choose every Big Ten team to not make the Final Four, Arizona to get upset, Seton Hall to advance to the Sweet Sixteen and two 7/10 and 5/12 teams to advance.

I used to win enough money to keep me ahead of The Pace.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:05 PM (6gk0M)

104 Wait wait wait.

JackStraw did you say Mt. Gay and...tonic?

Not of the body.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:07 PM (HV1LS)

105 Too late for the movie thread, I watched 'The
Founder' yesterday/this morning, a movie about Ray Kroc, the guy who
took McDonald's national.



Michael Keaton does a really good performance. What you think of Ray Kroc after it's all over, I'll leave to you to decide.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (oVJmc)

That is a good flick.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 07:07 PM (uKRys)

106 For those of you who came here looking for a gun thread, allow me to gloat that I'm signed up for the October Urban Rifle course at Thunder Ranch.

Posted by: PabloD at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (7wxks)

107 Huh, that is weird. Up here it's Yamaha by a long margin, then Suzuki and both Merc and Evinrude are back in the pack. The e-tec is interesting but again, lack of guys who can work on it up here I think holds the market down.
Posted by: JackStraw 


I remember pulling in to an obscure backwater Mercury dealer in Virginia years ago. Needed something inconsequential. Looked up on wall and their was 16 x 20 signed autographed picture of Ollie North on the wall.

That's 'merica son.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (ZFUt7)

108 Haha...thanks for the reminder of Wisconsin game.so much awesome

Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (5Uq5D)

109 I like N. Carolina for some reason.

...Oh Yeah.

...they can defeat Duke.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (6gk0M)

110 Hippy tears make me think about the best version of Cry Me A River. I vote Joe Cocker.

Posted by: colfax mingo at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (PX+kj)

111 ***

Do y'all think Richard Simmons is alive?

Posted by: Uhmm at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (6Ti7b)

112 We visited the puppies again! We are trying to decide between the two boy puppies: one is the biggest one in the litter and the other is the smallest. The big boy is cuddly, the small one is agile.
Hubby & KTY are leaning towards big & cuddly.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (Om16U)

113 Evinrude- Sucks- My dad built C and D class racing boats from zip nada and the engines as well. I replaced more lower units than a Subic Bay whore.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:09 PM (koJdH)

114 Posted by: PabloD at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (7wxks)

Does the price include a rifle?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 07:09 PM (PhYV5)

115 Votermom, what kind of puppies?

Posted by: Emmie at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (xVuS6)

116 Well that's it for Kentucky.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (dFi94)

117 Hubby KTY are leaning towards big cuddly.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (Om16U)
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I think that's a good choice too.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (dFi94)

118 86 Whoever was recommending Seattle as a place for oysters, maybe not so much for a while.

http://tinyurl.com/kyoc598
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (/tuJf)
******

No worries. The asshats who control Seattle and King County will use this as an excuse to create another tax.
Marxist sh*theads.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (0tfLf)

119 Has bluebell become disruptive? A discipline problem?

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)

120 Whoever was recommending Seattle as a place for oysters, maybe not so much for a while.

http://tinyurl.com/kyoc598

Posted by: JackStraw


Well, as long as they're cooked, that should kill any of the bacteria in the sewage. Come to think of it, wouldn't the stomach acid kill any bacteria in there?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:11 PM (vRcUp)

121 >>>Thanks for announcing "Nood", you miscreants.


we were waiting for your corn recipe

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 07:11 PM (fZXYQ)

122 I replaced yanked more lower units than a Subic Bay whore.

There. That's how you make a simile.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:11 PM (JZdsf)

123 Sorry Diesel Mr. Daddy 2.0.

That watchline used to be called Super Bad Ass.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:11 PM (HV1LS)

124 115 Votermom, what kind of puppies?
Posted by: Emmie at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (xVuS6)
******

Sweater puppies???

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (0tfLf)

125 WOW one point game!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (dFi94)

126 ..."I replaced more lower units than a Subic Bay whore."
-Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:09 PM (koJdH)

*Throws Flag*

-Shoe-Horning, (koJdH), offense.
-Ten Yards.
-Repeat First-Down.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (6gk0M)

127 Dammit. I was going to describe this dress that I'm about to remove, and its removal, in great detail. But it's been expressly forbidden. Oh well!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess


That's enough for Morons! We'll be in our bunks.

Posted by: mikeski at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (81V3b)

128 >>Not of the body.

Hey, I admitted to drinking Bacardi. Don't judge me!

Long story but I've been drinking Mt Gay forever but I love just all rum. I've got some Cruzan and also some Myers in the cabinet along with the Mt Gay right now.

Whenever I go some place where rum is the local thang I try it. Lights, darks, not a rum prejudicial bone in my body.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (/tuJf)

129 Has bluebell become disruptive? A discipline problem?
Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)

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Qui, moi?

You sound like Sister Mary Frances.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (sBOL1)

130 "There. That's how you make a simile."
-Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:11 PM (JZdsf)

^Professional^

Thank You!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:13 PM (6gk0M)

131 So what's going on? Are we boned?

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 07:13 PM (ANIFC)

132
You sound like Sister Mary Frances.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (sBOL1)
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I hear that a lot.

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:13 PM (Sfs6o)

133 "We were waiting for your corn recipe."
-Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 07:11 PM (fZXYQ)

*shakes head*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (6gk0M)

134 >>> Brussels sprouts vs Okra wars have broken out.<<<

This
is a egregious breach of the protocols of the Geneva Convention. Next
someone will be telling me that chowing on a pig's uterus is a delicacy
in Peruvia.

Posted by: Fritz at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (MF/hn)

135 Rhode Island made one hell of a chicken.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (ivHkJ)

136 Do y'all think Richard Simmons is alive?

Isn't that him singing 'I will survive' in the video?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (oVJmc)

137 ^Professional^

Thank You!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:13 PM (6gk0M)



*curtsies*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (JZdsf)

138 119 Has bluebell become disruptive? A discipline problem?
Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)
*****

Not at all.
She has a dress that hides a dagger and has straps that double as gorrotes.
You don't want to ask her where she keeps the PPK.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (0tfLf)

139 lmao Blaster... I may need some input from you guys. What kind of wedding ring would an ewok wear anyway?

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (CNHr1)

140 JackStraw my current fave is The Kraken. Best spiced rum bar none.

Make sure to mix it Coke de Mexico because cane sugar makes it taste SO much better.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (HV1LS)

141 TIE !!!!!!!!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (dFi94)

142 -Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (JZdsf)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (6gk0M)

143 No time out. Perfect.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (48QDY)

144 That's interesting. Here -- in an area I would describe as from NJ, DE, VA, NC, SC -- Mercury dealers are everywhere.
Evinrude probably second place.

Huh, that is weird. Up here it's Yamaha by a long margin, then Suzuki and both Merc and Evinrude are back in the pack. The e-tec is interesting but again, lack of guys who can work on it up here I think holds the market down.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:02 PM (/tuJf)

=======

I've had great luck with Mariner motors by Mercury. Very tough. When young and dumb, I ran through a muck bank and plugged up the water inlets and impeller. I finished out the day and took it out one other day before noticing it was not pissing water. No damage to the motor.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (jvDoo)

145 What the heck kind of game is this anyway

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (dFi94)

146 Carole and Paula were hippyish chicks, they never wore any dresses IIRC.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (vRcUp)

147
The thing I loved about Mercury is no matter how many horsepower - maybe it stopped at 100 - never checked above that -- you pull the cowling off and there would be this nice little waterproof bag with a rope starter.

I tried once, on a 60 horse engine. Because I really, really thought it *might* conceivably be possible.

Maybe for Arnold Schwarzenegger. Not me.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (ZFUt7)

148 That idiot certainly deserved it, but I don't feel comfortable about the fact that they've degenerated into rabid animals. We shouldn't have to deal with that sh*t.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:04 PM (vRcUp)


Nope, it shouldn't have come to that, but "congratulations! your prize for committing assault and battery on video is OC directly into your dumb face" does keep me a little warmer at night.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 07:16 PM (8nWyX)

149 I was thinking something like the dolphin ring that Will Smith gave to the stripper in Independence Day.

But with Sarlaacs.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:17 PM (HV1LS)

150 Go Zags!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:17 PM (0tfLf)

151 I use to love watches, almost had a Tag Hauer F-1 once, but seem to have lost my love for them with a phone in my pocket that can remind me what time it is.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 07:17 PM (GPaiX)

152 *shades of Christian Laetener?*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:17 PM (6gk0M)

153 I haven't seen Andy Cap in long time. But this discussion reminded me of his wife buying "some new clothes". He asked her what it cost. She said nothing really, it was 50% off, so she used the amount she saved to pay for it.

His expression has been on many a man's face.

Posted by: The Real Bruce at March 26, 2017 07:18 PM (Qr8dA)

154 *Laettner, even.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:18 PM (6gk0M)

155 I use to love watches, almost had a Tag Hauer F-1 once,

Almost?

Did the guy notice you trying to get it off his wrist?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:19 PM (JZdsf)

156 Not at all.
She has a dress that hides a dagger and has straps that double as gorrotes.
You don't want to ask her where she keeps the PPK.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:14 PM (0tfLf)
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In that case, I'd better be polite!

(I miss all the good threads)

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:19 PM (Sfs6o)

157 We shall put our heads together then blaster when the day comes. If it ever comes.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at March 26, 2017 07:19 PM (CNHr1)

158 Wow. Good game. Good game. NC is in. SC is in.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:19 PM (dFi94)

159 G'Night, Bluegrass State.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:19 PM (6gk0M)

160 You people want a hippie dress? Here's your hippie dress:


http://preview.tinyurl.com/n8pjjtk

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:20 PM (vRcUp)

161 I always feel bad for the kids on the losing team.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:20 PM (dFi94)

162 I hat that stupid Oregon team. I hope they choke on their ducks.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:21 PM (dFi94)

163 >>I always feel bad for the kids on the losing team.

Well that's because you're a Cubs fan.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:21 PM (/tuJf)

164 Doigenes- You missed the garter with the 357 holster at mid thigh.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:21 PM (koJdH)

165 153
I haven't seen Andy Cap in long time. But this discussion reminded me of
his wife buying "some new clothes". He asked her what it cost. She said
nothing really, it was 50% off, so she used the amount she saved to pay
for it.



His expression has been on many a man's face.

Posted by: The Real Bruce at March 26, 2017 07:18 PM (Qr8dA)

We have an understanding, the wife and I. I don't ask what she spent on clothes and shoes, and she doesn't ask what I spend on guns and ammo. But neither of us are particularly irresponsible about it either.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 07:22 PM (GX63o)

166 You people want a hippie dress? Here's your hippie dress:





http://preview.tinyurl.com/n8pjjtk

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:20 PM (vRcUp)
==================

oh dear

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:22 PM (dFi94)

167 Well, at least one of my teams made the Final Four.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 26, 2017 07:23 PM (qJhUV)

168 >>I always feel bad for the kids on the losing team.



Well that's because you're a Cubs fan.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:21 PM (/tuJf)
==========================

Seven days to go. Don't start with me.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:23 PM (dFi94)

169 Do y'all think Richard Simmons is alive?
Posted by: Uhmm at March 26, 2017 07:08 PM (6Ti7b)

Ummmmmm...Yes. If he was dead, oh the drama!

Poor bastard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 07:24 PM (5VlCp)

170 147
The thing I loved about Mercury is no matter how many horsepower - maybe it stopped at 100 - never checked above that -- you pull the cowling off and there would be this nice little waterproof bag with a rope starter.

I tried once, on a 60 horse engine. Because I really, really thought it *might* conceivably be possible.

Maybe for Arnold Schwarzenegger. Not me.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 07:15 PM (ZFUt7)



I witnessed 6 Filipinos pull-start a Mitsubishi 6-cylinder diesel on a banka boat one day.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at March 26, 2017 07:24 PM (ivHkJ)

171 >>Seven days to go. Don't start with me.

I haven't even begun with you, missy.

We got a whole new season.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:24 PM (/tuJf)

172 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?

It's because Hillary's running again, full stop.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2017 07:25 PM (5dOnv)

173 Grammie, who are the Ducks playing?

I graduated from there you know, and I think if I tried or possibly had my brains swapped with an anteater's, I could care less about UofO sports.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 07:26 PM (0hI48)

174 161 I always feel bad for the kids on the losing team.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:20 PM (dFi94)

They go home and have to listen to their dads berate them about what stupid worthless losers and complete and total failures they are.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 07:26 PM (0mRoj)

175 86
Whoever was recommending Seattle as a place for oysters, maybe not so much for a while.



http://tinyurl.com/kyoc598

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:59 PM (/tuJf)

Just stay away from the off-color slimy ones. And brush off the bits of Charmin, first.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 07:26 PM (GX63o)

176 We got a whole new season.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:24 PM (/tuJf)
======================

It's weird to think that the Cubs won the WS on a Wednesday, and the following Tuesday, Trump was elected. That's how long we've known that Hillary Clinton will never be president. Time flies when you're having fun.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:27 PM (dFi94)

177 Do y'all think Richard Simmons is alive?

Isn't that him singing 'I will survive' in the video?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Nah, if it was him, he'd be singing 'I will thurvive'.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:28 PM (vRcUp)

178 Back when I was a pup and stationed in Europe and traveling around the world I had this Armitron that had a good slide rule bezel (and the eyes to read it) and when I went to a new country I would just dial the exchange rate in. It must have been about $20 at the PX. It has been lost to time, but I loved that thing. And yeah, the dial was big.

My current stable of watches is an LG Urbane 2 SmartWatch (it has its own number! I can call you from my watch just like Dick Tracy!), and a Ferrari Lap Time (because I can't afford a 308 GTSi Magnum car), and a big dial Fossil Nate, and a Pulsar with an E6B slide rule that I seriously don't have the eyes to read the calculator, as well as the aforementioned Mr. Daddy 2.0.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:30 PM (HV1LS)

179 60 Minutes is gonna tell us about "Fake News".

Rich.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 07:30 PM (48QDY)

180 "Seven days to go. Don't start with me."
-Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:23 PM (dFi94)

As closely as I follow Cleveland Indians baseball, even if we had the two pitchers we lost in the last month of the season?

Our retreads and Minor-Leaguers pitched so well that there wouldn't have been that much of a difference.

The only thing that we might have banked-on is having one or two extra innings from our stellar bullpen.

That being said? I cannot say that it would have made "all the difference", let alone any.

You enjoy those parades, memories and T-Shirts, grammie.

-Cubs Win
-Cubs Win
-Cubs Win!!!

Ho-Lee-Cow!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:31 PM (6gk0M)

181 Open Thread For Various Discussions About Everything Except Dresses

I'm all-in for the Maoist Pantsuit thread!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 26, 2017 07:31 PM (eeTCA)

182 You enjoy those parades, memories and T-Shirts, grammie.



-Cubs Win

-Cubs Win

-Cubs Win!!!



Ho-Lee-Cow!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:31 PM (6gk0M)
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Thank you Slap, that's very gracious of you. I remember the wonderful play-by-play you did during the Series. Stellar.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:32 PM (dFi94)

183 >>Time flies when you're having fun.

I bet it was a hard call for you to pick which of those two event was better. What an incredible week that must have been for you.

But all that ends soon. We are coming for you guys this year and we are bringing lots of (mostly) healthy young arms. Harvey hit 97 today and he might be our 3rd pitcher. Maybe.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 07:32 PM (/tuJf)

184 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?

Well, there's always murder/suicide...

Posted by: tu3031 at March 26, 2017 07:32 PM (qJhUV)

185 164 Doigenes- You missed the garter with the 357 holster at mid thigh.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:21 PM (koJdH)
******

I will not comment on bluebells thighs.
Those soft supple....
Ahem.
Nope.
Mouth shut!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 07:33 PM (0tfLf)

186 60 Minutes is gonna tell us about "Fake News".

Rich.


Finally, something they are expert in.

I don't think I watched that show since, oh, the John Stossel days.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 07:34 PM (2VN2E)

187 Uh, you must be talking about someone else at this point.

Not me.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 07:34 PM (sBOL1)

188 Doh, I'm thinking of 20/20. Just as bad.

Never mind.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 07:35 PM (2VN2E)

189 You're quite welcome, grammie.

I was okay, I guess.

*draws sneaker through dirt*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:35 PM (6gk0M)

190 Why do the coaches in BBall wear suits? They should have to wear the uniform of the players like in baseball.

Or the other way around.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 07:35 PM (5VlCp)

191 Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 07:34 PM (2VN2E)

Stayed on CBS after game. Not for long tho.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 07:35 PM (48QDY)

192 You guys remember Lynn Russell on CNN back in the old days? There used to be a picture of her with a revolver in a garter.

Recently she and her husband were in a hotel, someone tried to break in, and someone - I think the husband, shot the intruder.

It was one of those feelgood stories of the day.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:35 PM (HV1LS)

193 hank you Slap, that's very gracious of you. I remember the wonderful play-by-play you did during the Series. Stellar.


Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:32 PM (dFi94)

Since I was unable to get the game, I hung on every one of Slap's posts. It was a thing to behold!


Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 07:36 PM (uKRys)

194 Watch was on GoodWill bidding site, went for fraction of what it cost.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 07:36 PM (GPaiX)

195 60 Minutes is gonna tell us about "Fake News".

Followed by champagne in my hotel room!

Posted by: Steve Kroft at March 26, 2017 07:37 PM (/wWB4)

196 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?

Well, there's always murder/suicide...


Anthony puts the gun to his head.

"Stop laughing!! YOU'RE NEXT!!!"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 07:37 PM (oVJmc)

197 I bet it was a hard call for you to pick which of those two event was
better. What an incredible week that must have been for you.
===============================


Ummm. Well .... I should probably turn in my copy of the Constitution. In the words of Sean Hannity - "I'm a baaaad American".

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:37 PM (dFi94)

198 Oh... I can't wait to hear what Sixty Bullshit Minutes has to say about "Fake News".

*Hands them The Shovel*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:37 PM (6gk0M)

199 Diogenes- The slit to the hip and the derringer in each pocket should have told you.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:38 PM (koJdH)

200 oh dear

Posted by: grammie winger


Sorry about that grammie, I realize that The Young Ones is not to everyone's taste.

The main reason I've watched it was because Rik Mayall got his libtard characterization pitch perfect. Several decades before the type turned up here in the US in force. Note how is ashamed of himself for 2 seconds, but then his Alinsky training kicks in, and he starts shouting and making counter accusations. Rik gave us about 20-30 years warning about how vile liberalism was and what they are like, and we ignored him.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:38 PM (vRcUp)

201 No one know about Vic? See if he shows up tomorrow.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 07:38 PM (GPaiX)

202 I explicitly came to speak on dresses, but nevermind...

Posted by: ramblingmother at March 26, 2017 07:38 PM (5PMq8)

203 Thank you, Infidel.

*blushes*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:38 PM (6gk0M)

204 Well, there's always murder/suicide...


Wiener would have to make notes to be sure he did the shooting in the right order.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:38 PM (JZdsf)

205
Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?



Well, there's always murder/suicide...

Kids, that's not a bad idea!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 26, 2017 07:39 PM (qJhUV)

206 I was okay, I guess.



*draws sneaker through dirt*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:35 PM (6gk0M)
=======================

More than okay. Lots of folks here couldn't access the game. You brought it to them. It was one of the best things ever.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:39 PM (dFi94)

207 *Flips over to Bob's Burgers.*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:40 PM (6gk0M)

208 You enjoy those parades, memories and T-Shirts, grammie.

-Cubs Win
-Cubs Win
-Cubs Win!!!

Ho-Lee-Cow!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:31 PM (6gk0M)




The 2016 Cubs' playoff games and the MFM coverage of the 2016 presidential election results are two things I can watch over and over again and still enjoy them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 07:40 PM (auHtY)

209 They should have to wear the uniform of the players like in baseball.

Is baseball the only sport that does that? Imagine Olympic swim coaches having to stand there in Speedos.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 07:40 PM (/wWB4)

210 I heard from Mrs. Vic yesterday.

She says Vic got his drain tubes removed Wednesday and today (which would be yesterday) he is drinking for the first time in 7-8 weeks.

May explain his absence today!

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:40 PM (HV1LS)

211 No one know about Vic? See if he shows up tomorrow.
Posted by: Skip 


Last I recall it was about 9 am a day ago and he was going to hit the rocking chair with some brown. It didn't seem like that great an idea to me, but his life.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 07:41 PM (ZFUt7)

212 History channel show about the guys that escaped from Alcatraz.

A photo of two guys supposed to be the brothers in Brazil in 1975.

Facial recognition dude overlaid pictures from back in the day and damned if it doesn't look like one of the brothers.

Dug up coffins and autopsy. Looks like they got away to Brazil. For real.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at March 26, 2017 07:41 PM (r/lvo)

213 Watched the move "The Replacements" for the first time last month. Now I think of it (while imagining football players dancing) every time I hear the Gloria Gaynor song "I Will Survive."

Oh, and Brooke Langton in a cheerleader dress ...

Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2017 07:41 PM (ZcAbN)

214 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out".

Use the Bill and Hillary Plan: you do whatever the hell you want, I do whatever I want. Strangers who share a tax ID.

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2017 07:42 PM (/wWB4)

215 We visited the puppies again! We are trying to decide between the two boy puppies...big boy is cuddly, the small one is agile.
Hubby & KTY are leaning towards big & cuddly.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017

IMO go with cuddly. Our 2 yr old choc lab is the most loving dog, the older 8 yo yellow is more standoffish. Both great.

Think about why you want a pet, to be a benefit to your family. Do you want one that's more emotionally rewarding or one that's agile?

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 07:43 PM (o/90i)

216 History channel show about the guys that escaped from Alcatraz.

A photo of two guys supposed to be the brothers in Brazil in 1975.

Facial recognition dude overlaid pictures from back in the day and damned if it doesn't look like one of the brothers.


History Channel? Let me guess. The other one looked exactly like Hitler with 30 years on him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:44 PM (JZdsf)

217 Speaking of pepper spray, watches, dresses, outboard motors, etc, Lydia just exacted her string cheese tax, because it is impossible to peel the wrapper without her trying to climb up me. Then she assumed the kittyloaf posture on the floor. A few minutes later, and though there was thankfully nothing like Misha's paint-peeling stink, she looked me in the eye and ripped a very impressive *blurrrt*.

So ladylike, that kitty.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 07:44 PM (8nWyX)

218 Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?

Posted by: freaked at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (BO/km)



Gee, I'm glad to hear that. The Weiner seems like such a stand up kind of guy. And when his guy is standing up he's sending pictures of it over the net

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 07:45 PM (auHtY)

219 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:44 PM (JZdsf)

Heh.. No.

This one is actually the US Marshals looking into it.

Not those guys that find Hitler everywhere.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at March 26, 2017 07:45 PM (r/lvo)

220 History Channel? Let me guess. The other one looked exactly like Hitler with 30 years on him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 07:44 PM (JZdsf)



CNN: You know who else looks like Hitler with 30 years on him?!?!?!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 07:45 PM (auHtY)

221 OH GOODY! MIDDLE EAR INFECTION WITH EAR DRUM PERFORATION

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 26, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)

222 You sound like Sister Mary Frances.



Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 07:12 PM (sBOL1)

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I hear that a lot.

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:13 PM (Sfs6o)

That's his nic at the range, bluebell.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 07:46 PM (tHwdc)

223 I keep harkening back to three years before when nobody chimed-in when I did the play-by-play for the Cardinals and Red Sox.

I must have reeled-off thirty lines before noticing that no one else chimed-in on anything but what I was typing about.

I was "new" and I guess people didn't want to hear about Adam Wainwright's curveball, from a New Kid, when the ONT was going-on... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:46 PM (6gk0M)

224 Weiner should consult with Jenna Jameson as to how to get Huma to convert to Judaism.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:47 PM (vRcUp)

225 Only thing worse than being bed ridden sick for a week is being bed ridden sick for a week and having to return to your job with a week's worth of work backed up on top of the backed up work you had before you got sick.

First world problem but the suckiest of first world problems.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 07:47 PM (IDPbH)

226 Posted by: EVLINC! at March 26, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)

Look on the bright side-

The rest of the week has to get better.

I'll see myself out.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at March 26, 2017 07:47 PM (r/lvo)

227
60 Minutes is gonna tell us about "Fake News".

Go to the mirror, boy.
Go to the mirror, boy!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 07:47 PM (IqV8l)

228 ShainS - Did you just not love the cheerleader try out segment? OLe OLe OLe..

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:47 PM (koJdH)

229 "I heard from Mrs. Vic yesterday.

She says Vic got his drain tubes removed Wednesday and today (which would be yesterday) he is drinking for the first time in 7-8 weeks.

May explain his absence today!
"
-Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:40 PM (HV1LS)

Thank You for the update!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:48 PM (6gk0M)

230 221 OH GOODY! MIDDLE EAR INFECTION WITH EAR DRUM PERFORATION
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 26, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB

My face melted with that at the end of the 2nd Set. Encore?

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 07:48 PM (1ZlS3)

231 >>60 Minutes is gonna tell us about "Fake News".


Ah, the memo must've gone out.
Fake News was the first story on the CBS Morning show. Even dusted off Ted Koppel for the occasion. Naturally he claimed it started with Rush and rolled the old footage of fat Rush, the interviewed Sean Hannity, whom Koppel blamed for stirring up the current divide in America (Sean laughed). Then Koppel pleaded with the smug Exec Editor of the NYT to heal the nation. What a spectacle.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 07:48 PM (NOIQH)

232 224 Weiner should consult with Jenna Jameson as to how to get Huma to convert to Judaism.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 07:47 PM (vRcUp

I'm not a fan of the tattoo sleave Jenna got. Not. At. All.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 07:49 PM (1ZlS3)

233
Why did the Republican Shits betray us on obamacare?

a) They feared losing reelection in 2018.
b) They like obamacare (for us, not them).
c) They stayed true to their principles and believe they can do even better than ryan's bill.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 07:50 PM (kWewi)

234 votermom, another suggestion for cuddly. Even a large standard poodle won't be THAT big.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 07:50 PM (V+03K)

235 >>Huma and Anthony are "trying to work it out". Is that so they won't have to testify against each other?


Probably because it looks like Huma (and Hillary) knew about him sexting/skyping with a 14-15 year old, who at times was suicidal, for 4+ months - *and she did nothing about it*.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 07:51 PM (NOIQH)

236 There it is...

"Pizzagate" on Sixty Minutes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:51 PM (6gk0M)

237 That's his nic at the range, bluebell.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 07:46 PM (tHwdc)
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I shoot like a nun, or so I'm told.

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:51 PM (Sfs6o)

238 213 Watched the move "The Replacements" for the first time last month. Now I think of it (while imagining football players dancing) every time I hear the Gloria Gaynor song "I Will Survive."

Oh, and Brooke Langton in a cheerleader dress ...
Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2017 07:41 PM (ZcAbN)

And another enjoyable Keanu Reeves movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (IDPbH)

239 Remember way back when when ace was telling us to learn something?

Well, it finally sunk in, after being reinforced by Scott Adams, and improving my talent stack by taking a Python course online.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (HV1LS)

240 Where is Pepe to extrapolate the "facts" from this sideways Conspiracy?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (6gk0M)

241 Why did the Republican Shits betray us on obamacare?
a) They feared losing reelection in 2018.
b) They like obamacare (for us, not them).
c) They stayed true to their principles and believe they can do even better than ryan's bill.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 07:50 PM (kWewi)

d) Optics, bribe money, kick backs and filthy lucre.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (5VlCp)

242 Then Koppel pleaded with the smug Exec Editor of the NYT to heal the nation.

Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 26, 2017 07:53 PM (Tyii7)

243 They use the only shit-bound "story" to counter the flow of the narrative.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:53 PM (6gk0M)

244 115 Votermom, what kind of puppies?
Posted by: Emmie at March 26, 2017 07:10 PM (xVuS6)

Standard poodle.

Now we are in the naming wars!
*dons armor*

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (Om16U)

245
Republicans campaign on conservative values but govern as Democrats.

Republicans campaign for our votes, but govern for Democrat votes.

Who's the real Loser in this relationship, us or the Republicans?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (kWewi)

246 222. Miley and Weasel, how did the range session go and what was used? This damn cold is keeping me from the range and vicarious shooting will have to suffice for now.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (V+03K)

247 I shoot like a nun, or so I'm told.

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 07:51 PM (Sfs6o)

Sometimes I really wish I knew how to photoshop...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (tHwdc)

248 Remember that, until Recently, the Anarchist/Black Bloc/Commie protesters were demonstrating and rioting against globalization? Then they turned on a dime and effectively started supporting it?

Almost as if someone first directed them to go out against globalization in a flakey antisocial way designed to discredit anti-globalization, then directed them to support it once globalization faced actual real, practical pushback?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (t5m5e)

249 Well, it finally sunk in, after being reinforced by Scott Adams, and improving my talent stack by taking a Python course online.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (HV1LS)



Is it something completely different?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (auHtY)

250 I shoot like a nun, or so I'm told.

Posted by: Weasel


My father was a nun. He was in court and the judge asked him, "Occupation?" and he said "Nun".

Posted by: Baldrick at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (vRcUp)

251 Why did the Republican Shits betray us on obamacare?

It's not a betrayal if we were lying the whole time during the elections.

Posted by: The GOPe at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (eeTCA)

252 Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (HV1LS)

What online Python course is it, blaster?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (Om16U)

253 ...and NOW they've discovered "Bots"!

And it is all about Democrats being "victimized".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:58 PM (6gk0M)

254
nood bad children poat

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 07:59 PM (kWewi)

255 I haven't watched Shitty Minuted since they berated out Israeli Ambassador during the waning years of the Bush administrations and I remember why.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 07:59 PM (6gk0M)

256 Thank you Slap, that's very gracious of you. I remember the wonderful play-by-play you did during the Series. Stellar.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 07:32

Seconded from here, all of the above.

Seriously, WTH? Trump AND the Cubs winning?

Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 07:59 PM (o/90i)

257 Eye opener- 2 years ago a standard remedy for colic in horses was $100.00 per 100 ml bottle. Today the 100 ml bottle cost me $30.00.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 07:59 PM (koJdH)

258 252 Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 07:52 PM (HV1LS)

What online Python course is it, blaster?
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 07:56 PM (Om16U)

Is it the course on SPAM cookery, or on silly walks?

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 07:59 PM (ANIFC)

259 246 222. Miley and Weasel, how did the range session go and what was used? This damn cold is keeping me from the range and vicarious shooting will have to suffice for now.
Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (V+03K)
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Very well, JTB. Thanks. Miley is like some kind of Annie Oakley clone - and is progressing quickly!
Today I took a K38 and a 19-3, two of my favorites. I love shooting those guns. Another shooting pal passed along details of a mint .38-44 available locally that I will probably add to the collection tomorrow.

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (Sfs6o)

260 @vm it is a package from stackskills.

Stackskills has a lot of different courses and packages. Looks like what happens is that other online programs get repurposed. So you get to watch the web videos, but no interaction with the professor or other students.

9 courses for $42 so yeah I get it. If they were answering even 1 email per class they couldn't do it that cheaply.

Finishing up the first class which is Learn Python 3 from Beginner to Advanced

Yeah, I would be watching more if I weren't here!

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (HV1LS)

261 Well, it finally sunk in, after being reinforced by Scott Adams, and improving my talent stack by taking a Python course online.

Posted by: blaster


Hope you didn't pay too much. Unlike most other languages, Python has the easiest, most comprehensive documentation that comes with the download.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (vRcUp)

262 Miley and Weasel, how did the range session go and
what was used? This damn cold is keeping me from the range and vicarious
shooting will have to suffice for now.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (V+03K)

I used a Ruger SR22 today, discovered that .22 ammo is tricky. Missed the utter reliability of Weasel's Sig.

Got to fire a very scary-looking assault rifle. Here is the owner/builder's description:
It was a build I did based on an AR-15. It is a 300 blackout
With a fostec "echo" trigger.

The stock is made by MVB.
The barrel was made by a company called V7 its 6.5" and the front rail system was by SLR rail systems 5.5".


I'm glad you like it. I made it to be very compact but to make an impact at a distance of about 100 yards.
Good times.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (tHwdc)

263 Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 07:54 PM (kWewi)

Did you want the Ryan bill to pass like Trump wanted or not? If you wanted it passed , don't blame the GOPe. It was the conservatives that blocked it. If you didn't want it to pass then you need to praise the Freedom caucus and back them in their efforts to put forth a healthcare reform plan and not just bandaids on Obamacare.

You can't just scream damn Republicans about everything.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 08:01 PM (IDPbH)

264 I still don't like python's regex system. When I need to do anything with text manipulation, I always use Perl.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 08:02 PM (vRcUp)

265 NOOD!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 08:02 PM (6gk0M)

266 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) 

and NOW they've discovered "Bots"! 



Democrats and technology. Like Carnival people and marks.

A bad combination for the country. We're being flimflammed, bamboozled by people too ignorant to own a computer, much less explain why they keep fucking up and losing.

ZeroHedge is all over this stuff.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 08:03 PM (ZFUt7)

267 There ought to be an Historic Preservation law to prevent tampering with landmarks like Jenna Jamison's body

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 26, 2017 08:04 PM (8RTTd)

268 Miley and weasel, Glad you had a great time. And good luck getting the 38-44. That should be a gem.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 08:07 PM (V+03K)

269 No one know about Vic? See if he shows up tomorrow.
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 07:38

What do you mean Skip? Last I heard Vic was home and recovering well. Was heading back to the porch rocker for the first time in months.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 08:07 PM (o/90i)

270 Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 08:07 PM (V+03K)
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Thanks, JTB. Hope you feel better!

Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 08:14 PM (Sfs6o)

271 On Pluto TV, which is free on most devices like ROKU, there is a MST3K channel. For any fans out there who may be a tarded moron like myself.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 08:35 PM (1ZlS3)

272 Very well, JTB. Thanks. Miley is like some kind of Annie Oakley clone - and is progressing quickly!



Posted by: Weasel at March 26, 2017 08:00 PM (Sfs6o)

LOL! Hardly Annie Oakley, but I do love it and apparently I'm good enough to kill someone, so there's that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 26, 2017 08:38 PM (tHwdc)

273 3 Wow! I'm usually around 300 or so.
Posted by: Straight Razor at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (lY6OQ)


Check out the GAINZZZ thread, brah.

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2017 08:38 PM (sdi6R)

Food Thread: Oysters And Bars And Happy Hours

oysters10.jpg

It's no secret that I love the little buggers. Even thoroughly mediocre mass-market oysters that are found at the typical $1 oyster happy hour are pleasant. But occasionally, like last night, I get some really good ones. A touch of brine, firm and creamy flesh, and best of all that marvelous and unique "oyster" flavor that is almost sweet but not quite...almost tart but not quite. Yes, I will turn in my Man-CardTM for using this word, but "umami" might be the best descriptor. I know that oysters are odd, and some people simply can't abide their texture, but if you haven't tried them, and are at all adventurous, give it a shot. But go to a good place. And don't order a dozen. Just order three, and maybe ask for a selection. If you like them, you will probably descend into oyster hell...forever haunting happy hours and out-of-the-way dives that are rumored to have the best oysters in town.

Anyway, the bar was packed, but shockingly they knew how to manage the crowds by taking names for seats at the bar. One of the things I despise about humanity is its conspicuous lack of etiquette. And nowhere is that failing displayed more obviously than at crowded bars. Don't try to elbow your way past me to sit at the newly vacated seat for which I was waiting patiently. Don't rotate your bar stool so you can chat facing your friend; that takes room away from me. And it's rude.

But management at The Mermaid Inn managed these issues quite well. The hostess and bartenders kept lists and enforced them. A rude couple did try to scoot past me to snag those seats, and the bartender firmly put them in their place.

It was glorious.

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This once was a temple of oyster gastronomy; The Grand Central Oyster Bar. Sadly faded, but still a fascinating glimpse into what New York City once was.

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Here are a bunch of links forwarded by artisanal'ette. I think she is pining for some nice Spring weather and lovely Spring food!

Looks simple to make: Roasted Strawberry-Buttermilk Sherbet

Seems "peas" are springy, and so are spring onions. Ran across a bunch of pea and spring onion soups, etc. Pea Consomme

Looks delicious: Lemon-Poppy and Chevre Cheesecakes

I would love this: Soft-Shell Crab And Bacon Sandwiches

Pretty desserts:Spring Garden Cake, and a slideshow!

And another....Martha Stewart Spring Recipes and Food And Wine, Spring Produce

Easter slide shows (fun stuff) Easter Dessert Recipes and Wacky Easter Treats

Six Easter menus and Easter leftovers


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Here's a recipe that Bluebell swears doesn't stink up your kitchen. And that is a big deal for me, since the hood over my stove is crap, because of both design flaws and being underpowered. It is an integrated hood/microwave/convection oven, and two of the three are useful and work well. But form certainly did not follow function in this case.

The Best Salmon You've Ever Had Is Slow-Baked in Just 22 Minutes

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I am all for learning a bit of arcane stuff about food. And this article sort of interesting, but please; ease up on the smug. And the easy pontification about things you know not-quite-enough to be considered an expert. Like this:

Ostriches are the largest birds on earth, which means they lay the largest eggs.

Uh...no. They may be the largest birds on earth, and they may lay the largest eggs, but one does not prove the other. Sorry.

A Guide to Egg Varieties

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I was all set to give you a wonderful arugula and potato salad. I was confident that I had never posted it. Right up until I checked, and found that I had indeed posted it, and not too long ago. Yeah....tell me again what the upside to growing old is....

So you will have to settle for a hastily researched recipe. I never made it, but it looks good. If it sucks, it's not my fault! Leave me alone! I need my binky....

Lentil and Sausage Soup for a Cold Winter's Night

I do have a quibble. I would not use Italian sausage. I think anduille or a chroizo would be a better choice. They are firmer, have a bit of spice, and don't have fennel, which seems discordant in this recipe.

[For food complaints, comments, recipes and the address to which you may send all of your extra antelope backstrap and fresh morels: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com]

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1 *Captures Flag*

*runs away*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 03:55 PM (6gk0M)

2 Ah, finally...

Posted by: HH at March 26, 2017 03:56 PM (DrCtv)

3 I detest seafood

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 03:56 PM (GPaiX)

4 swoon....

Posted by: m at March 26, 2017 03:57 PM (Gqgs8)

5 Cannot say that top pic is very appealing.

Posted by: HH at March 26, 2017 03:57 PM (DrCtv)

6 Sunday dinner? Three words. Chicken fried steak.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 26, 2017 03:58 PM (kTF2Z)

7 I'm not a seafood guy, but I have a recipe for corn "salsa" for your Mexican dishes, if anyone cares to hear about it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 03:59 PM (6gk0M)

8 It's no secret that I love the little buggers.

*this*

Posted by: Hairy Reed at March 26, 2017 03:59 PM (8ZskC)

9 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 03:55 PM (6gk0M)

So, did you get the others? It's on you, Runaway...

Posted by: HH at March 26, 2017 03:59 PM (DrCtv)

10 Oysters= natures viagara. Any truth to that? Or urban legend?

Posted by: Big swingin Al at March 26, 2017 03:59 PM (OUaC+)

11 Ain't nothing wrong with the word 'umami'. It's a legitimate characteristic, there's a lot of chemistry backing it up. Use it with pride.

Also, I'm not trying to be contrarian or eDgY or whatever, but I have not and will not ever snork a cold wad of snot out of a shell. Ever. I don't care how tasty it is.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:00 PM (8nWyX)

12 Wifey is away this week. Means bachelor chow.

Burgers with gorgonzola. Oh yum.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 04:01 PM (HV1LS)

13 Oysters: loogies of the sea.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:01 PM (LAe3v)

14 A peck of oysters was a family Christmas Eve tradition when I was a kid.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:01 PM (Pqytn)

15 "So, did you get the others? It's on you, Runaway..."
-Posted by: HH at March 26, 2017 03:59 PM (DrCtv)

In my four years here, I have never left a previous thread hanging without calling "NOOD!"

...ever.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 04:02 PM (6gk0M)

16 I'm not a seafood guy, but I have a recipe for corn "salsa" for your Mexican dishes, if anyone cares to hear about it.


I'll see your corn "salsa" and raise you one recipe for "pork" chops.

Posted by: George Donner at March 26, 2017 04:02 PM (8ZskC)

17 Hey everybody.

The place I mentioned a few nights ago, The Kickin' Crab, has fried oysters on their menu. Wonder if I should try 'em.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:02 PM (qazQh)

18 "best oysters"

"most popular cancer"

"favorite sucking chest wound"

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 04:03 PM (m5EEX)

19 That "Mermaid Inn" website is fun.
Which one did you go to, CBD? Upper West, East Village, Greenwich?

Posted by: m at March 26, 2017 04:03 PM (Gqgs8)

20 if G*d had meant us to eat sea food, she would not have made the land animals so easy to catch.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 04:03 PM (m5EEX)

21 I'm planning a surprise 60th for my wife. We'll have about 110 guests, and I would like to serve a nice sparkling wine. No way am I springing for champagne, so I'm thinking prosecco or cava. Anyone have any suggestions in the $12-20 range?

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:03 PM (LAe3v)

22 Paul Ryan laid a pretty large egg this week.

Now, back to watching a hot bespectacled Russian chick sweep.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (T1Co2)

23 " ... but still a fascinating glimpse into what New York City once was."

I have some glimpses of faded glory I can share, if I ever get my phone back.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (DMUuz)

24 18 "best oysters"

"most popular cancer"

"favorite sucking chest wound"


Best nude snapshot of Lena Dunham.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (LAe3v)

25 No way am I springing for champagne, so I'm thinking prosecco or cava. Anyone have any suggestions in the $12-20 range?

You prefer box or bottle?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (8ZskC)

26 I made an impromptu spaghetti all' amatriciana sauce today, but I'm too stuffed from breakfast and lunch to partake.

I didn't have guanciale (pork cheeks) and the wha....? expression behind the counter at Wegman's made me feel like an idiot for asking. So I bought some chorizo, sliced, and used that today. Not bad!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (PhYV5)

27 Best oysters are bushels full - fresh out of the Chesapeake Bay, cooked over a wood fire in the backyard with a sheet of metal and plenty of wet burlap.
Served with tons lemon, butter and hot sauce.

Only, give me the ones everyone else says are overdone. Those are the best ones. Texture is an issue for me.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (2SERm)

28 The red-headed man with the man-bun seems a little too interested in that couple to his right.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 04:05 PM (Ivjge)

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 26, 2017 04:06 PM (DMUuz)

30 I'm not that taken with oysters. That said The Acme Oyster House in New Orleans serves chargilled oysters that are wonderful.

Posted by: Aviator at March 26, 2017 04:06 PM (/Nite)

31 I laid the biggest egg of '16! hic

Posted by: Hillary 2020! at March 26, 2017 04:06 PM (En33R)

32 but I have not and will not ever snork a cold wad of snot out of a shell. Ever. I don't care how tasty it is.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:00 PM (8nWyX)
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The photos from your line-crossing ceremony say otherwise.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:07 PM (PhYV5)

33 No way am I springing for champagne, so I'm thinking prosecco or cava. Anyone have any suggestions in the $12-20 range?
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is there a Trader Joe's near you?

they have lots of good options in that range, and even a bit lower, that are quite drinkable

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 04:07 PM (m5EEX)

34
I'm not so sure about a 22 minute baking time for salmon. I baked a one pound hunk last night for 40 minutes at 350 degrees. It was perfect, flaky goodness.

But I use a wet cedar plank which evens the cooking. The strategy is:
Cookie sheet
Line with aluminum foil
Saturated cedar plank
More water in cookie sheet
Salmon
Oven

It's not that the cedar plank imparts any flavor. Forget that. It's just the proper wood for the task.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 04:07 PM (ZFUt7)

35 The first guy to ever eat an oyster must have been really hungry. Either that or it was a hold my beer while I try this moment.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 26, 2017 04:07 PM (kTF2Z)

36 You prefer box or bottle?

Posted by: Cicero


Bottle.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:08 PM (LAe3v)

37 I have not and will not ever snork a cold wad of snot out of a shell. Ever. I don't care how tasty it is.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:00 PM (8nWyX)

Good.

More for me, and more room at the bar.

At the end of the day, it's just food. And having a few foods that, for whatever reason, just gross you out is not important in the least.

I think people who are extremely rigid and won't try anything new are missing out on some fun stuff. And it probably reflects on their world view, but still...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:08 PM (rF0hx)

38 Oysters taste like snot....but good.

Posted by: CMU VET at March 26, 2017 04:08 PM (C+wjz)

39 2 cans Progesso Lentil soup
1 tube sage breakfast sausage
bunch o biscuits.

Viola.

Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2017 04:09 PM (FhXTo)

40 another great food thread CBD!


oysters are also good bbq'd

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 04:09 PM (fZXYQ)

41 Upper West, East Village, Greenwich?

Posted by: m at March 26, 2017 04:03 PM (Gqgs

Upper West Side. But the Village ones are nice too, although the East Village location is small and a bit too crowded.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:09 PM (rF0hx)

42 Bottle.
Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:08 PM (LAe3v)



Sorry. I don't drink any wine that doesn't come with playfully elusive notes of cardboard and staples.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8ZskC)

43 Why are Curling chicks so damned cute?

Besides all the sweeping, time spent on their knees, and the intense focus...

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:11 PM (T1Co2)

44 Funny you mention oysters. Just got back from brunch, half a dozen oysters and Lobster Benedict with two manmosas with champagne not beer.

I'll just be over here on the couch in a food coma.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:11 PM (/tuJf)

45 The photos from your line-crossing ceremony say otherwise.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:07 PM


You've only seen the (comparatively) G-rated ones, fit for public consumption.

Posted by: Neptunus Rex at March 26, 2017 04:11 PM (DMUuz)

46 Oysters= natures viagara. Any truth to that? Or urban legend?
Posted by: Big swingin Al



Like all so-called aphrodisiacs, they're usually rich in something - necessary for proper boneification -- that the body is lacking in. Zinc, in oysters case, iirc.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 04:12 PM (ZFUt7)

47 Food glorious FOOD!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:12 PM (TdMsT)

48 Only have been known to have seafood when inebriated

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 04:12 PM (GPaiX)

49 Bottle.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:08 PM (LAe3v)





Sorry. I don't drink any wine that doesn't come with playfully elusive notes of cardboard and staples.


You got me. It would be difficult indeed to make a box that would contain sparkling wine.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:12 PM (LAe3v)

50 >>Lobster Benedict


Oh, fuck you.

Been a long time since I've had fresh atlantic lobster.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:12 PM (T1Co2)

51 could sit down with a bottle of Frank's Red Hot and eat dozens.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 04:13 PM (89T5c)

52 Anyone have any suggestions in the $12-20 range?

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:03 PM (LAe3v)

Domaine Chandon Brut, for about $17 at deep discount.

But those $10-$12 proseccos are fun too.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:13 PM (rF0hx)

53 A rude couple did try to scoot past me to snag those seats,

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I was sure the next words would be "so I slugged them."

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:14 PM (sBOL1)

54 >>Been a long time since I've had fresh atlantic lobster.

It's just one of the benefits of living in RI. All residents are entitled to as much free lobster as they can eat.

This is a little know benefit and we are trying to keep it on the down low to keep out the riff raft so don't tell anyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:14 PM (/tuJf)

55 Easter menus - browser got gayer just clicking that one.

Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2017 04:14 PM (FhXTo)

56 Here's a fun oyster thingie.

If you google "Stoney Point Rd, Barnstable MA" you get a map. Flip the map to satellite view.

Just north of what you're seeing, in the sand flats of Barnstable Harbor, you'll see what looks almost like a bar code in the sand. Zoom in on that and what you're looking at is the boxes of an oyster farm.

There was a time a few years ago that they were arranged in a pattern that spelled out "eat more oysters".

This should show the current close up view: http://bit.ly/2n6uwId

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 26, 2017 04:14 PM (gIRsn)

57 44 Funny you mention oysters. Just got back from brunch, half a dozen oysters and Lobster Benedict with two manmosas with champagne not beer.

I'll just be over here on the couch in a food coma.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:11 PM (/tuJf)

The mere mention of that 24 hours ago would have made me hurl. I'm just getting my appetite back after not being able to eat for three days. Short term memory is the greatest gift sometimes.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:15 PM (IDPbH)

58 JackStraw, I hope you washed down those oysters and lobsters and mimosas with some coffee milk ice cream.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:15 PM (sBOL1)

59 riff raft

A boat building story.

Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2017 04:16 PM (FhXTo)

60 Oh, I tried sauerkraut rye for the first time yesterday, with a dab of artisanal mustard. So good! I bet a toasted cheese sammich made from same would be exceptional.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:16 PM (PhYV5)

61 51 could sit down with a bottle of Frank's Red Hot and eat dozens.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 04:13 PM (89T5c)


I put that shit on everything!

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 04:16 PM (2SERm)

62 >>JackStraw, I hope you washed down those oysters and lobsters and mimosas with some coffee milk ice cream.


No room today. But I was doing some grocery shopping yesterday in our little local shop and was sorely tempted to pick some up. You guys have got it on my brain now.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:17 PM (/tuJf)

63 Like all so-called aphrodisiacs, they're usually rich in something -///

Rich being the only real aphrodisiac.

Posted by: Ugly Billionaire boning hotties on his yachton at March 26, 2017 04:17 PM (hYjJg)

64 Fried haddock French fries and coleslaw

Posted by: Strobe at March 26, 2017 04:17 PM (sv+WN)

65 JackStraw, I hope you ...

okay, never mind that ...

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:18 PM (Pqytn)

66 artisanal 'ette - thank you for all those Easter links! I love that stuff (bug off, DaveA ).

Easter brunch for 14 here. The number keeps growing.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:18 PM (sBOL1)

67 Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:14 PM (/tuJf)

You're going to choke on that white privilege if you don't watch out.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:18 PM (IDPbH)

68 Dad grew up on Puget Sound and loves oysters.
Dad says on Summer evenings when he was a kid they would go and pick
oysters on low tide off the rocks on a little backwater across
from one of the oyster farms.
Mom used to fry them regularly, but I honestly think she only did it to get the 10 oz oyster jars with the Mason standard threads so she could get free jam jars.

I know she was not happy when the local producer went to plastic jars.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 04:18 PM (0hI48)

69 I love lobster and shrimp, but adult onset allergies preclude them now. Crab I can still do though.

When I was a kid, my dad did some trout on the grill. I climb up on the step stool to watch and there it was. That trout eyeball staring at me. Haven't liked fish since.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 26, 2017 04:18 PM (kTF2Z)

70 best wishes on the party pep!

i threw a 40th for my mom and her twin sister where everybody got bombed on bubbly. it was fun mingling throughout the party listening to the conversations.

i think i served domaine chandon...blanc de nois and brut.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 04:19 PM (fZXYQ)

71 Oysters look pretty gross to me.

I had fried clams once, and liked them. It was probably the breading that made them palatable.

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2017 04:19 PM (sdi6R)

72 pep it all depends on whether you have access to a good value wine store. Meaning one where the owner has mastered the art of getting very solid wines for not much, in the $8-20 range - which drink like $15-$30 bottles.


Or Costco, I guess - not a member, but they are the largest buyer of wine on earth, and must have some good values.


I'm lucky to have an incredible store where the owner has gone from very good at this, to beyond excellent at this. I don't go in as often as I used to, but it was not unusual to snag a close-out/discontinued/etc. premium wine for 1/4 it's normal price. I still remember an amazing Aussie syrah for $20 (originally sold in the $80s) - should have bought a case.


But CBD's suggestion of prosecco is good and on-point here. My store usually has very nice prosecco for under $8. Got in the habit of starting any meal with guests with prosecco after spending a lot of time in Italy. Fallen away from that, need to stock up and revive the tradition.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:19 PM (QDnY+)

73 You guys have got it on my brain now.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:17 PM (/tuJf)
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Hey, toots, you're the one who brought it up. I had never heard of it before.

But it sounds awesome

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:19 PM (sBOL1)

74 Fried catfish filets, ice-cold coleslaw, cornbread with jalapenos, and an ice-cold glass of New Belgium's Trippel.

That should do it - some time in May.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:21 PM (Pqytn)

75 I'm going to Maine in June and I plan to eat lobster every single day.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:21 PM (TdMsT)

76 Yes, I have enjoyed prosecco more than champagne, it's cheaper, and hostesses love getting some as a gift.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:21 PM (PhYV5)

77 >>>Domaine Chandon Brut, for about $17 at deep discount

coke, please

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (fZXYQ)

78 I am a fan of the Grand Central Oyster Bar. Now my grandparents lived out on Long Island when Grandpa still worked in the City (thirty years at Chase Manhattan), so he used to go to the oyster bar in Penn, but it was lost when the old Penn Station was knocked down in the 60s. There is a new raw bar in Penn called Tracks, but I haven't been there. Opened since I was last in NYC in 2010.

Yeah, the one in GCT is faded, and kinda stuck in the 1970s, but dammit, you need to have some landmarks left and the food isn't bad. It still needs a decent restoration.

+1 for the Acme in New Orleans.

Now my ultimate oyster experience in a restaurant, I was working at Fort Polk on the support side, and had to run over to Beaumont, TX. There is a Pappadeaux Seafood on the side of I-10, and anyone who has been to Houston or its satellites knows about the Pappas restaurant family. Anyway, they were advertising locally caught ones on the half shell, 3.99 a dozen. Big, plump, fresh. Every bit as good as the Appalachicola oysters of the Florida panhandle that most folks think are such hot shit.

I think I ate seven dozen. Not the record, the bartender informed me, but a 90th percentile performance nonetheless.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (YS6Xu)

79 I love the fact that Lobster used to be poor people food.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (IDPbH)

80 I can only eat about three dozen before moving to the gumbo.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (LheKO)

81 I'm going to Maine in June and I plan to eat lobster every single day.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:21 PM (TdMsT)

And good Maine steamers. Oh man I love steamers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (rF0hx)

82 Is 'coffee milk ice cream' the same thing as coffee ice cream?
I see y'all talking about it a lot lately.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (2SERm)

83 Rhomboid-
I use Costco and Total Wine; probably not what you have in mind. TBH, the whole experience results in information overload and analysis paralysis, and I know I'll just end up getting whatever the guy at TW tells me is good.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (LAe3v)

84
Oysters cooked, yes. Raw, no. But I will eat raw clams on occasion, but steamed into submission is my preference.

My wifes favorite is a special seafood bowl, spinach at the bottom, then a flounder filet, then oysters, shrimp, crab, cheese, a little white wine. Baked just long enough to solidify the flounder. It's a Chincoteague, Virginia thing.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (ZFUt7)

85 Not an oyster guy.


But I still love the look of the Grand Central oyster bar.


Just finished squeezing a large full bottle of grapefruit juice (yellow grapefruit). Friend has a huge old tree and lives far enough from the coast that the grapefruit ripen to a perfect sweet/tart balance.


Nothing like citrus oil aromas filling the kitchen.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (QDnY+)

86 No recipe for corn "salsa". Dad just called and he's all confused about his roofing insurance.

Gotta go.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (6gk0M)

87 I think people who are extremely rigid and won't try anything new are
missing out on some fun stuff. And it probably reflects on their world
view, but still...
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you'd be wrong.

i was force fed cat food all my childhood, because my parents loved it and we were severely Catholic, so it was served every damn friday, all year long.

recognizing where my distaste for bait originated, i have, as an adult, gone back and tried it at various acclaimed sources, such as the Cajun place out in SW Louisiana, near New Iberia, where the locals stood in line, and right off the boats in Seattle, plus others.

either it doesn't taste like much of anything at all, other than seasonings, or it tastes like feesh, with the odd nasty mouth feel thrown in (calamari, octopus, oysters, sea cucumber, etc)

unless we are starving to death on a desert island, i'll pass, thankyouverymuch.

there are too many options out there that i do enjoy to make myself eat weird shit i don't like, just to prove how hip, k3wl and edgy i am.

YMMV

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (m5EEX)

88 >>I love the fact that Lobster used to be poor people food.

It used to be fertilizer, even the poor people didn't eat it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:24 PM (/tuJf)

89 I love lobster, but it doesn't love me. Took two encounters with lots of lobster and lots of sickness before I figured it out.

I can eat something like lobster bisque, but that's the limit. Makes me sad, because it's delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:24 PM (sBOL1)

90 I think people who are extremely rigid and won't try anything new are missing out on some fun stuff. And it probably reflects on their world view, but still...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:08 PM (rF0hx)


Dunno about that, honestly. People just sort of like different things. The idea of say, a crab boil or an oyster dinner or even just lobstehs is appealing, all fancy but folksy at the same time, but having seen people eat raw oysters, I'm not really tempted. It's like some people who have hangups about eggs, or tartare, or grapefruit, or whatever. If it's repulsive to you and you won't enjoy eating it, don't.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:24 PM (8nWyX)

91 >>I love the fact that Lobster used to be poor people food.

Excuse me? Barack and I adore lobster because it is classy and all the rich people eat it! Next you're going to tell me "waygu" is a Walmart brand...

Posted by: Michelle Obama at March 26, 2017 04:25 PM (NOIQH)

92 I didn't have guanciale (pork cheeks) and the
wha....? expression behind the counter at Wegman's made me feel like an
idiot for asking. So I bought some chorizo, sliced, and used that
today. Not bad!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:04 PM (PhYV5)


Since Chorizo is made out of pork salivary glands, according to what I read in the supermarket, I think you are on the right path.

Silly she-wolf, pork cheeks are best turned into hog-jowl bacon anyways.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 04:25 PM (0hI48)

93 81 I'm going to Maine in June and I plan to eat lobster every single day.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:21 PM (TdMsT)

And good Maine steamers. Oh man I love steamers.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (rF0hx)



OMG I had steamers last time I was there and nearly lost my mind! Prepared by a Camden native--my twin brother's wife.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:26 PM (TdMsT)

94 >>I can eat something like lobster bisque, but that's the limit. Makes me sad, because it's delicious.

Friday night Happy Hour was lobster nachos and lobster bisque.

Yes, I am full of white privilege. And lobster at the moment.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:26 PM (/tuJf)

95 75-

get the lobster rolls while in Maine. So good.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 04:26 PM (89T5c)

96 I gather this for an event, pep? Well you probably won't go wrong with the suggestion of a decent staff person at a wine store. Especially for bubbly that's not super-premium - meaning there's lots of good inexpensive stuff that's fine for most occasions. Time of day, whether there is food and what kind, also affect what works best. But I think you'll do fine with any decent choice.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:27 PM (QDnY+)

97 91 >>I love the fact that Lobster used to be poor people food

Pardon me. Are u gonna eat that tamale?

Posted by: Michelle, my Belle at March 26, 2017 04:27 PM (ivHkJ)

98 Anyone have any suggestions in the $12-20 range?

White wine and a Soda Stream?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 04:28 PM (0hI48)

99 Anyone ever had a "po'boy" sandwich?

I admit the name cracks me up. They're always full of delicious shrimp, lobster, catfish or fried chicken. That boy ain't so 'po' if you ask me...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:28 PM (qazQh)

100 Two best reasons to travel to Maine:

- Great seafood

- To fart in Stephen King's general direction

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:29 PM (qazQh)

101 Two best reasons to travel to Maine:

- Great seafood

- To fart in Stephen King's general direction
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:29 PM (qazQh)


- Kittery Trading Post

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:30 PM (8nWyX)

102 I used to work for a Japanese company and I would go with our Japanese manager and our Japanese clients to dinner. I truly tried to enjoy the food but eventually I had to surrender and order Chicken teriyaki for the remainder of my time with the company. Even that was gross because they left the soft pimply skin on the chicken that I had to discreetly remove.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:30 PM (IDPbH)

103 Concrete Girl and CBD-
thanks for the tip. The wife is very fond of Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand (Marlborough), which is heavy on the citrus. I think I'll try to find a good prosecco that fits that bill.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:31 PM (LAe3v)

104 i threw a 60th party for Resident 3vil 10 years ago...

she still hasn't forgiven me for that, even though it was her stepmom's (who she dearly loved) idea.

no good deed...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 04:31 PM (m5EEX)

105 All right, I am NOT making Martha Stewart's Spring Garden cake. For heaven's sake, enough is enough. I don't think she could cram one more thing into that cake.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:31 PM (sBOL1)

106 I first tasted boiled crawfish in Louisiana. In the small convenience stores during the season, the crawfish were boiled and then put in the plastic tubs that normally held fountain lemonade. Customers would walk up to the counter and give the clerk their orders, and the clerk would pick up an empty plastic bag with one hand and an ice scoop in the other.

Fresh boiled crawfish, covered in Old Bay Spice, or the local equivalent, is something special.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:31 PM (Pqytn)

107 All right, I am NOT making Martha Stewart's Spring Garden cake. For heaven's sake, enough is enough. I don't think she could cram one more thing into that cake.
Posted by: bluebell


Hello!!!

Posted by: Turducken at March 26, 2017 04:32 PM (qazQh)

108 Fun fact: H.P. Lovecraft hated seafood.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:32 PM (PhYV5)

109 Beats prison food.

Posted by: Martha Stewart at March 26, 2017 04:32 PM (vRcUp)

110 A nice prosecco is La Marca (sp?). It can usually be found at Sam's and Costco for around $11-12. I've also seen it in many grocery stores.

Posted by: lindarising on her phone at March 26, 2017 04:33 PM (cGqiy)

111 >>All right, I am NOT making Martha Stewart's Spring Garden cake. For
heaven's sake, enough is enough. I don't think she could cram one more
thing into that cake.



"Ya sure about that?" - Sandra Lee's Kwanzaa Cake

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 04:33 PM (NOIQH)

112 Loogies on the half-shell.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 04:33 PM (0mRoj)

113
Hello!!!
Posted by: Turducken at March 26, 2017 04:32 PM (qazQh)
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Yoohoo! *flutters fingers*

Posted by: Cherpumple at March 26, 2017 04:33 PM (PhYV5)

114 Anyone ever had a "po'boy" sandwich?
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Yes. Meh.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:33 PM (Pqytn)

115 Gators eat boogers.

'Cocks in the Final Four!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 04:33 PM (GsAUU)

116 Fun fact: H.P. Lovecraft hated seafood.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:32 PM (PhYV5)


And minorities!

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (8nWyX)

117 Time of day, whether there is food and what kind,
also affect what works best. But I think you'll do fine with any decent
choice.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:27 PM (QDnY+)

I was thinking of Cheetos, but haven't decided yet between the regular and spicy ones.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (LAe3v)

118 pep Marlborough sauv blanc is sort of the world standard - at least the "new world" standard (non-European). And there are usually reasonably priced offerings around.


I was fortunate, happened to be traveling in NZ in the late 90s, just before Marlborough (and Otago pinot further south on the South Island) started to take off. I remember walking into the Cloudy Bay tasting room - which wasn't finished, workers were doing carpentry still - and that label soon became among the most well-known.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (QDnY+)

119 Did I mention that the first time I visited Kickin' Crab in Cerritos a few days ago, the shrimp (I did not realize) were raw and unprepared?

Never had shrimp before where I had to remove its creepy-crawlies on the bottom and unshell it. And of course it was completely undeveined, so all sorts of fun black-colored surprises inside.

It was still good, but I think I'll stick to their popcorn shrimp for a while at least.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (qazQh)

120 >>Fun fact: H.P. Lovecraft hated seafood.

That's why we kept him up in the Providence Plantation part of the state and never let him into the actual Rhode Island part.

Crazy bugger.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (/tuJf)

121 Hello!!!
Posted by: Turducken at March 26, 2017 04:32 PM (qazQh)
---------

Oh, you're in there, under the fountain and between the carrot-and-walnut cake layer and the zucchini cake. You just think we can't see you because of the cream cheese frosting.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (sBOL1)

122 i have, as an adult, gone back and tried it at
various acclaimed sources

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2017 04:23 PM (m5EEX)

Which means you tried it. That you don't like it is simply personal preference. It doesn't mean you are rigid (though you may be).

So my point stands, and you get two demerits.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (rF0hx)

123 trader joes has lots of prosceco in your price range pep.

are you having the party at your house?

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (fZXYQ)

124 I eat at least 30 Wellfleet oysters a week. Gotta keep my wimminz happy

Posted by: Excelsior 007 at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (XirO5)

125 Oysters as aphrodisiacs ? Sure, just as much as powdered rhino horn makes your dick stay hard longer.

But here's the thing -- If you ask a date out and invite her to go to an oyster bar and she accepts, your chances of getting lucky go way up. Cuz she knows the legend as well.

I'll eat oysters almost any way except raw. Too much of a chance of getting one with vibrio imho. I prefer my bacteria cooked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (0rHf9)

126 98
Anyone have any suggestions in the $12-20 range?

White wine and a Soda Stream?


Posted by: Kindltot


Danger! Warning! Wine snob alert!

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:36 PM (LAe3v)

127 LMAO Gaytor fans in Surrender Cobra.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 04:36 PM (GsAUU)

128 Fresh Rainbow Trout Filets for Dinner, tonight.

Most may scoff at the idea of fileting a Trout, but those people don't catch 6 lb Trout very often.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (T1Co2)

129 Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:31 PM (Pqytn)

Tony Chacheres is the spice that has basically cornered the crawfish /crab market.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (IDPbH)

130 Martha's spring garden cake is fussy!
Here's the Easter cake that we've been making since I was a kid:

https://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/
easter-bunny-cake/b8af0f55-67d5-4fb0-aaec-ab11ff5df7e3

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (NOIQH)

131 My favorite wacky Easter recipe is Peeps Sushi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH5zes9uprs

Always a hit at parties, usually the kind of parties that serve gummi bears soaked in vodka.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (PhYV5)

132 are you having the party at your house?

Posted by: concrete girl


Yep. Should get intimate.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (LAe3v)

133 >>Fresh Rainbow Trout Filets for Dinner, tonight.

What time shall I arrive? Don't want to be late.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (/tuJf)

134 pep, I think the rated sommeliers would definitely say regular Cheetos go with unoaked chardonnay or even a sancerre.


Spicy Cheetos are a challenge. Korbel occasionally used to do a sparkling dry red wine that might stand up to such delicious fare ......

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:38 PM (QDnY+)

135 93 81 I'm going to Maine in June and I plan to eat lobster every single day.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:21 PM (TdMsT)

And good Maine steamers. Oh man I love steamers.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:22 PM (rF0hx)



OMG I had steamers last time I was there and nearly lost my mind! Prepared by a Camden native--my twin brother's wife.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:26 PM (TdMsT)

Never get them in Cleveland.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 04:38 PM (0mRoj)

136 I would only try oysters if directed to a good place by someone knowledgeable while staying somewhere near the ocean. Not happening where I live, mid-country. I did have steamed clams at a clambake in Connecticut about 1000 years ago. Tasted like wet air.

Posted by: Rosasharn at March 26, 2017 04:38 PM (PzBTm)

137 Spicy Cheetos are a challenge. Korbel occasionally used to do a
sparkling dry red wine that might stand up to such delicious fare ......
=======================

I LOVE CHEETOS!

Posted by: Michael Moore at March 26, 2017 04:39 PM (Pqytn)

138 132 are you having the party at your house?

Posted by: concrete girl

Yep. Should get intimate.
Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (LAe3v)

Swinger party?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 04:39 PM (0mRoj)

139 And minorities!
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (8nWyX)
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And yet he married a...Jewess!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:39 PM (PhYV5)

140 Filipino men think fertilized duck eggs will help them attract woman. I find a $20 bill works fine.

Posted by: Tourist at March 26, 2017 04:39 PM (ivHkJ)

141 If God did not mean for us to eat sea food, it wouldn't be so easy to successfully fish while drunk.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 26, 2017 04:39 PM (hVdx9)

142 Oysters as aphrodisiacs ? Sure, just as much as powdered rhino horn makes your dick stay hard longer.

Can imagine the ads for powdered rhino horn or, as Pfizer will rebrand it, Porhornivab.

"May cause irresistible desire to ram your head into large objects. Call 911 if your horn is erect for more than six hours. Ask your doctor if powdered rhino horn is right for you..." :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:40 PM (qazQh)

143 A 'Po Boy' is nothing more than a sub, hoagie, hero, grinder, etc.
Just a regional name for a big sammich.
Done right, they can be good, though.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 04:40 PM (2SERm)

144 Spicy Cheetos?

Dip 'em in straight sour cream. Not a joke, I've done it. De-lish and classes up the dish a bit. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:41 PM (qazQh)

145 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:34 PM (qazQh)

I wouldn't think they were raw. Just boiled with all their fixings attached and chilled.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:41 PM (IDPbH)

146 Oysters are ok but they don't satisfy. Seeing a rude jerkoff of a couple put in their place anywhere, now that's satisfaction.

I also like oyster stew every now and then....oysters. the oyster liquor, heavy cream, butter. That hillbilly joint in Mobile does oysters quite well from what I remember.

Wenzels?......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 04:41 PM (5VlCp)

147 This is going to sound like blasphemy, but I just discovered a local all you can eat Chinese buffet near me.

And they have oysters available. In the buffet.

They aren't the gourmet super fancy raised-in-holy-water kind, but for a fast and easy way to get a fix...damn.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 26, 2017 04:41 PM (2VN2E)

148 Dinner is always at 8.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:41 PM (T1Co2)

149 I'll eat oysters almost any way except raw. Too much of a chance of getting one with vibrio imho. I prefer my bacteria cooked.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (0rHf9)

--Fried for me.

Every Christmas my fam has a bunch of them raw with the meno, and ecery year I sit that out.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 04:42 PM (GsAUU)

150 Catfish Po'boys are good eats.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:42 PM (T1Co2)

151 Filipino men think fertilized duck eggs will help them attract woman. I find a $20 bill works fine.
Posted by: Tourist


$50 if you want one that may have been born female.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:42 PM (qazQh)

152 https://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/
easter-bunny-cake/b8af0f55-67d5-4fb0-aaec-ab11ff5df7e3

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 04:37 PM (NOIQH)

---------------

Lizzy, I make that every year! But I'm pitiful at getting everything to hold together when we travel with it. The first time I made it, we were going to my sister-in-law's house about 45 minutes away. Every time we hit a bump or turned a corner, another piece fell off.

When we got there, her husband looked at it and said, "looks like the rabbit died."

Which means I have made it every year since then, just for him.

They are the ones in London though, so we won't be together for the first time in almost 20 years . I won't be making the cake, although he did offer to make fun of it over Skype or Facetime.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:43 PM (sBOL1)

153 Jack, that's how those shrimp were.

Not used to it. Glad I had the experience, but not sure I want to repeat it anytime soon.

I would love to learn what that delicious spicy cayenne broth is called, and how to make that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:43 PM (qazQh)

154 When I buy salmon, I usually put in in brine for three hours and then move the pieces to the smoker. When done right, it tastes like salmon candy.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (Pqytn)

155 For aphrodisiac stuff nothing beats the little picked snakes in bottles one used to see in Vietnam.


Merely opening my eyes and looking around always was more than sufficient stimulus and inspiration in this regard, for me. Target-packed environment.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (QDnY+)

156
When you have cooked with fresh seafood, your kitchen doesn't stink. My wife loves tuna salad, made from canned tuna. I always accuse her of eating cat food, because it stinks.

I recently planked a fresh tuna filet and made her tuna fish from that. No fish smell whatsoever.

Things like flash freezing and vacuum sealing with gas are taking frozen, then thawed fish into a new realm of freshness virtually identical to freshly caught.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (ZFUt7)

157 Dalton and garrett, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (qazQh)

158 How the hell did lemon become meno?

Yeesh.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (GsAUU)

159 My self-rising flour expired last summer.

I have one hour to make something else.

Cheese biscuits? Can't think of anything else bread-like that will bake quickly...

Posted by: Mama AJ, nice person, not a witch at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (gTQoY)

160 For $20, you could have half the women in Subic Bay blow you.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 04:45 PM (89T5c)

161 Danger! Warning! Wine snob alert!
Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:36 PM (LAe3v)


Nah. I just don't like champagne or wine. I prefer cider or beer, and I am not so hot on most beers either.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 04:45 PM (0hI48)

162 >>For $20, you could have half the women in Subic Bay blow you.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Really....?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 26, 2017 04:46 PM (/Nite)

163 Mama AJ, just google for subs for self-rising flour. You probably just need to add some baking powder.

Cheese biscuits, yum.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:46 PM (sBOL1)

164 OK, there's stupid. There's extremely stupid. There's unimaginably stupid. And there's Chelsea Clinton stupid.

http://tinyurl.com/l3xw6qn

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (97XyN)

165 heh

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (89T5c)

166 Did someone say 'snob alert'?

My week was made when I found out that 1893 Cola now comes in *four* delicious flavors instead of just two. ;-)

(The old ones were original cola and ginger cola; the new ones are grapefruit and black currant cola.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (qazQh)

167 i haven't caught any rainbow trout since i was 7.
time to get down to the river.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (fZXYQ)

168 Bluebell, I make a trippy rainbow layer cake with multicolor frosting into which I press peeps and candy in elaborate designs. It travels pretty well and always raises the penciled-in eyebrows of food snobs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (PhYV5)

169 >>Lizzy, I make that every year!

Heh, love it! My problem is usually that the chocolate cake (has to be chocolate!) crumbs can get into the white frosting --- so I freeze the cake for minimum crumbling while assembling. Maybe keeping it cool helps it stay together, too?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (NOIQH)

170
Nah. I just don't like champagne or wine. I prefer cider or beer, and I am not so hot on most beers either.


Posted by: Kindltot


Well, I could break out the single malt, but that would drive the price up a bit, and probably end up in broken furniture and random underwear spread about the house.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 04:48 PM (LAe3v)

171 >>When I buy salmon, I usually put in in brine for three hours and then move the pieces to the smoker. When done right, it tastes like salmon candy.


Pro Tip : Before you put it in the smoker, you want to let it air dry completely. Put it on a rack and set a fan to blowing over/past it until it dries out enough that the salt starts to form a nice crust.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:48 PM (T1Co2)

172 Fun fact: H.P. Lovecraft hated seafood.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


I offered to fix him up on a date with a large halibut, but he said no. Freakin racist. Fish are hawt.

Posted by: Obed Marsh at March 26, 2017 04:49 PM (vRcUp)

173 >> i haven't caught any rainbow trout since i was 7.


Ice Out was last week. If you can find a reservoir that has trout, they will be on the edges of the shallows getting ready to spawn.

They'll eat like champs for a week or two...then they will lose interest as they begin the spawn.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:49 PM (T1Co2)

174 How 'bout these...with cheeeez?

Cuz I got no buttermilk either!!

http://tinyurl.com/ly4ds2a

Posted by: Mama AJ, nice person, not a witch at March 26, 2017 04:50 PM (gTQoY)

175 Too much of a chance of getting one with vibrio imho. I prefer my bacteria cooked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 04:35 PM (0rHf9)

That is a very good point.

It is a calculated risk, and one that I minimize by sticking with cold-water oysters. No raw gulf oysters for me.

Well....no raw gulf oysters for me unless I am in New Orleans and drunk.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:50 PM (rF0hx)

176 Woo hoo, did anyone else see that Chocolate-Caramel Cake with Sea Salt recipe from (I think) the Easter Dessert slideshow? Oh my.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/k2tf3aw


Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:50 PM (sBOL1)

177 >>I would only try oysters if directed to a good place by someone knowledgeable while staying somewhere near the ocean.

I'm fortunate in the oyster department. My old neighbor is a very successful oyster farmer who ships his oysters to high end restaurants around the country and I am surrounded by farms so the quality is pretty universally high.

But the sickest I've ever been from food was a bad oyster at a restaurant in Boston. It's a really well know place and I had eaten them there many times but one bite, didn't even swallow it, and I was run/staggering between the bedroom and bathroom for a week.

That's half the challenge. You gotta admire prey that still wants to kill you even after it's dead.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:50 PM (/tuJf)

178 Fucking Cocks.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:51 PM (1ZlS3)

179 Well....no raw gulf oysters for me unless I am in New Orleans and drunk.
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That's okay. The alkyhal will kill the bad bugs. Hopefully.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:51 PM (Pqytn)

180 >>
But the sickest I've ever been from food


Ama Ebi.

Doctor had to make a house call I was so fucked up.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (T1Co2)

181 178 Fucking Cocks.
Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:51 PM (1ZlS3)
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Which team is this?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (PhYV5)

182 Bluebell, I make a trippy rainbow layer cake with multicolor frosting into which I press peeps and candy in elaborate designs. It travels pretty well and always raises the penciled-in eyebrows of food snobs.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (PhYV5)
------------

Eris my love, I would expect nothing less from you.

Did you see the Dunkin Donuts with peeps on them from the wacky treats link above?

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (sBOL1)

183 >>Fucking Cocks.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty

Word

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (/Nite)

184 >>>When done right, it tastes like salmon candy.

this.
i like it to have a chew/bite to it.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (fZXYQ)

185 Yep!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:53 PM (PhYV5)

186
Speaking of sushi...

During the intro the 80's tv show Hunter starring former LA Rams player Fred Dryer there's a clip with him standing in an unidentifiable building near a sign This Is Not A Raw Sushi Bar.


What's that about?


(That clip is probably from an episode but I don't rememberberry it.)

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 04:53 PM (kWewi)

187 I'm ok with cake, as long as there's no hookers around. Hookers and cake are my kryptonite.

Posted by: Barney Frank at March 26, 2017 04:53 PM (vRcUp)

188 CBD, Thanks for mentioning oysters. Love 'em but prefer them lightly steamed with copious amounts of lemon butter.

Oh God, I'm drooling at the thought. Sigh!

And JackStraw, add me to the list of those who envy you at the moment. (It would be hate but I'm having flounder Florentine for supper so my suffering will be short-lived.)

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 04:54 PM (V+03K)

189 159 My self-rising flour expired last summer.

I have one hour to make something else.

Cheese biscuits? Can't think of anything else bread-like that will bake quickly...

Posted by: Mama AJ, nice person, not a witch at March 26, 2017 04:44 PM (gTQoY)


Spoon bread. Soda bread. No baking powder in the house? Corn bread : Milk and vinegar or lemon juice + baking powder + cornmeal.

Tortillas are 'brad like' but alas, you need baking powder.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at March 26, 2017 04:54 PM (ivHkJ)

190 181 178 Fucking Cocks.
Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:51 PM (1ZlS3)
---
Which team is this?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (PhYV5)

South Carolina. Bunch of trash-holes

I hate that I find myself having to pull for them. Because Underdog in Tournament.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:55 PM (1ZlS3)

191

Never get them in Cleveland.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 04:38 PM (0mRoj)



Central Ohio here. When ordering seafood, expect to be disappointed, if not poisoned.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:55 PM (TdMsT)

192 You gotta admire prey that still wants to kill you even after it's dead.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:50 PM (/tuJf)
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I can't even contemplate what an oyster that wants to kill me while it's still alive would look like.

I just avoid them all, to be sure. More for you daring folks who don't mind taking your life in your hands when you eat dinner.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 04:55 PM (sBOL1)

193 Central Ohio here. When ordering seafood, expect to be disappointed, if not poisoned.
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Heh.

Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2017 04:55 PM (Pqytn)

194 I love raw oysters. Been eating them that way 64 years. Will do fried, but prefer them raw as GOD intended.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 04:56 PM (zLDYs)

195 >>And JackStraw, add me to the list of those who envy you at the moment.

Come home, brother.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 04:56 PM (/tuJf)

196 Oysters, snot- on- a- halfshell, no thanks.

Anyone who *can* stomach them? Hat's off to ya, eat to your heart's content.

I'll just sit over here with my very rare (but well-seared) steak. We can taunt each other across the table, ok?

Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 26, 2017 04:56 PM (044Fx)

197 Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:55 PM (TdMsT)

Was that a whooosh?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 04:56 PM (IDPbH)

198 164 OK, there's stupid. There's extremely stupid. There's unimaginably stupid. And there's Chelsea Clinton stupid.

http://tinyurl.com/l3xw6qn
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 26, 2017 04:47 PM (97XyN)

--Chelsea did not heed Lincoln's famous admonition not to believe everything you see on the Internet.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 04:57 PM (GsAUU)

199 >>Central Ohio here. When ordering seafood, expect to be disappointed, if not poisoned.


I took a friend hunting in Plentywood, Montana about a decade ago.

The night we got there he orders the 'Captain's Platter' at the local shithole eatery...

yeah.

He spent that whole trip in the bathroom at the Motel. I had to get a seperate room. It was a bad scene.

Who does that?

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:57 PM (T1Co2)

200 186
Speaking of sushi...

During the intro the 80's tv show Hunter starring former LA Rams player Fred Dryer there's a clip with him standing in an unidentifiable building near a sign This Is Not A Raw Sushi Bar.


What's that about?


(That clip is probably from an episode but I don't rememberberry it.)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 04:53 PM (kWewi

Too much tuna sashimi gave Jeremy Piven titties that he had to get surgically reduced a couple of years ago... And give up sashimi (tuna) as well.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:57 PM (1ZlS3)

201 Ama Ebi.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:52 PM (T1Co2)

Did they grill the head for you at least?

Because that is just awesome.

Maine shrimp...the tiny little ones...are the way to eat raw shrimp.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 04:58 PM (rF0hx)

202

Who does that?
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:57 PM (T1Co2)


Who does that? People for whom hope springs eternal.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 04:58 PM (TdMsT)

203 During the intro the 80's tv show Hunter starring former LA Rams player Fred Dryer there's a clip with him standing in an unidentifiable building near a sign This Is Not A Raw Sushi Bar.

What's that about?

(That clip is probably from an episode but I don't rememberberry it.)

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX


There's a website http://www.thisisnotasushibar.com/

but it's in Italian so I can't read it.

Posted by: Nemo sushi at March 26, 2017 04:59 PM (vRcUp)

204 Jeremy Piven's tits went well with his vagina.


No way I am living without Sashimi. If I grow tits, great.
Be nice to play with some of those again.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:59 PM (T1Co2)

205 Maybe Jeremy Piven got mercury poison as well. And grew ditties because of Ahi Tuna Sashimi.

He had a pair of D cupped funbags.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:59 PM (1ZlS3)

206 >>OK, there's stupid. There's extremely stupid. There's unimaginably stupid. And there's Chelsea Clinton stupid.



Guess she's going to have to fire her twitter ghost writer. It's a shame, too, because people were really starting to believe she had a personality....

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 05:00 PM (NOIQH)

207 Here I am talking about fish in central Ohio, and I've been invited to my neighbor's' house for dinner tonight. They are serving fish.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:00 PM (TdMsT)

208 I hate that I find myself having to pull for them. Because Underdog in Tournament.
Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 26, 2017 04:55 PM (1ZlS3)

--Not only underdogs, but continuing gratuitous typing the word 'Cocks.

(--not that an excuse is really needed here)

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 05:00 PM (GsAUU)

209 >>People for whom hope springs eternal.


I warned him.

'Where's the neaarest Ocean?' - I asked.

He didn't listen.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 05:00 PM (T1Co2)

210 175 It is a calculated risk, and one that I minimize by sticking with cold-water oysters. No raw gulf oysters for me.

Well....no raw gulf oysters for me unless I am in New Orleans and drunk.


CBD, I live on the MS Gulf Coast. I just *assume* they're all gulf oysters.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (0rHf9)

211 That's half the challenge. You gotta admire prey that still wants to kill you even after it's dead.
Posted by: JackStraw 


I always give a good long sniff test. The sickest I ever saw my wife was from a bad cooked oyster. I felt bad because I should have checked for her. I've set some aside in the past.

Sneaky little bastids.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (ZFUt7)

212 Got some fine ersters down here in New Orleans. My Dr. says no raw for me but I di love them fried.


Here are a few good places if you ever get down this way. They all serve them the half shell


Drago's - They have their own beds. Specialty is Charbroiled.


Casamento"s - Specialty is fried. Best in town. Thery are only open during oyster season.


Antoine's - Specialty is Rockerfeller


Pascal's Manale - Great oyster bar. Specialty is Barque Shrimp (not what it sounds like).

Acme is OK- They serve a Gumbo in a bread bowl.


Actually hard to miss a good spot when they are in season. Some people don';t like our oysters because they are too big. To each their own.





Posted by: Javems at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (yOqwj)

213 Great oyster place just north of Pikes Place market in Seattle called Cutters. You will not be disappointed.
But you do have to walk past all the drunks, addicts and stoners to get to the door. But worth it.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (0tfLf)

214
That's weird that it's in Italian.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (kWewi)

215 Well....no raw gulf oysters for me unless I am in New Orleans and drunk.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I find that the octane in Gulf seafood is unreliable. Also, they tend to be a bit short on the long chain hydrocarbons.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (LAe3v)

216 I love raw oysters. Been eating them that way 64 years. Will do fried, but prefer them raw as GOD intended.
Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 04:56 PM (zLDYs)


"And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you."

*sad trombone*

(I actually DGAF if people eat oysters or squid or balut or whatever, they just aren't my thing)

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (8nWyX)

217 >>I always give a good long sniff test.


I hate guys like you.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 26, 2017 05:02 PM (T1Co2)

218 --Chelsea did not heed Lincoln's famous admonition not to believe everything you see on the Internet.
Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 04:57 PM (GsAUU)


Well, duh. He stole it from Rousseau.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 05:02 PM (0hI48)

219 Sunday Dinner at Chez Infidel is chicken/green chili enchiladas.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 05:02 PM (uKRys)

220 thanks expert

it's a whole new world here.
i'm going to become an expert too.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 05:02 PM (fZXYQ)

221 Pro Tip : Before you put it in the smoker, you want to let it air dry completely. Put it on a rack and set a fan to blowing over/past it until it dries out enough that the salt starts to form a nice crust.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 04:48 PM (T1Co2)


Pro terminology: to form a pellicle.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at March 26, 2017 05:02 PM (ivHkJ)

222 I live on the MS Gulf Coast. I just *assume* they're all gulf oysters.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (0rHf9)

There are so many spectacularly great ways oysters are prepared on the gulf coast that it's not really a loss to avoid them raw.

But I am weak, so I eat them both ways when in NO.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 05:03 PM (rF0hx)

223 Central Ohio here. When ordering seafood, expect to be disappointed, if not poisoned.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian


Clearly you are unfamiliar with the large herds of crabs that used to cross the prairies, and ultimately ended up in my people's casseroles.

Posted by: Sen. Warren at March 26, 2017 05:04 PM (LAe3v)

224 Iwill be the proclaimed oyster heretic. Smoked, out of the can, with Triscuits.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:04 PM (koJdH)

225 I am working out a recipe for whole wheat bread to enter in the County Fair next Summer. It is interesting to finally get what was a hit-and-miss process into a "should work every time" recipe.

Next goal is to adapt to the potato bread recipe, and after that salt-rising bread, which does not use yeast.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 05:04 PM (0hI48)

226 Clearly you are unfamiliar with the large herds of crabs that used to cross the prairies, and ultimately ended up in my people's casseroles.
Posted by: Sen. Warren at March 26, 2017 05:04 PM (LAe3v)

-- That never gets old.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 05:05 PM (GsAUU)

227 That's weird that it's in Italian.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 05:01 PM (kWewi)
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Looks to be a restaurant in Milan, Italy, so maybe not so weird.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:05 PM (sBOL1)

228 My distaste for fish is well known in my family. Nevertheless, my brother will always pull the old try this, it isn't fishy at all. Yeah, neither is this steak, thank you very much.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 26, 2017 05:06 PM (kTF2Z)

229 219 Sunday Dinner at Chez Infidel is chicken/green chili enchiladas.
Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 05:02 PM (uKRys)

+++

There's a yum.

I love how Skip and some others say "supper". I've always said "dinner", but "supper" sounds so homey to me.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:06 PM (Ivjge)

230 Kentucky-UNC

It's a shame they both can't lose.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 05:06 PM (GsAUU)

231 Iwill be the proclaimed oyster heretic. Smoked, out of the can, with Triscuits.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:04 PM (koJdH)

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Against my better judgment, I had a smoked oyster once.

Once.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:07 PM (sBOL1)

232 >>I live on the MS Gulf Coast. I just *assume* they're all gulf oysters.


One of the really cool things about oysters is that they really are so diverse and dependent on their habitat there is so much diversity even even amongst oysters of the same region or water. We have a seafood fair here every summer and a bunch of oyster farms from all over the northeast come. All of the oysters are different to some degree.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:08 PM (/tuJf)

233 1 Two best reasons to travel to Maine:

- Great seafood

- To fart in Stephen King's general direction
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:29 PM (qazQh)

- Kittery Trading Post
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 04:30 PM (8nWyX)

Gimbles

Posted by: Fox2! at March 26, 2017 05:09 PM (aN6O8)

234 thisisinotashushibar appears to be a chain sushi bar, franchise opportunities available.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 05:10 PM (0hI48)

235 Sickest I've ever been was from a seafood salad (in Seattle, so not "off the ocean").


Violent. About 24 hours, exactly. Felt like I'd been punched in the gut, or run into the crossbar at full speed on the ice - diaphragm was so sore from its exertions.


But did get to see what it's like to spend an entire flight in an airliner bathroom (think I even refused to come out for landing, memory's not clear on that).


Needless to say will never touch another seafood salad again.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 05:10 PM (QDnY+)

236 Greetings:

My Lentil Soup

1 can Progresso Lentil soup
3 Hillshire Hot Links sausages
1 bunch scallions
1 large celery stalk
1/2 Green Bell Pepper

Slice sausages into disks and fry them flat side down.
while fryiign one side, chop veggies into spoonable pieces.
Turn sausage slices when appropriate and add veggies over them.
When appropriately fried, dump in can of soup.and bring to almost a boil.

Alternative A: Add cooked small or medium shell pasta.

ALternative B: Add some (couple of ounces) veggie broth to soup for crusty bread dipping.

Serves one full size human being.

Posted by: 11B40 at March 26, 2017 05:10 PM (evgyj)

237 Somebody told me that bearded clams can be good for your libido too. But I've heard there are a lot of different types so u have to careful Anybody know of a good place to get some in the Chicago area?

Posted by: Big swingin Al at March 26, 2017 05:10 PM (NVqYx)

238
I *want* to believe the Russians hacked Chelsea Clinton's Twitter account. The alternative, that she's *that* farking stupid, gives me the sadz.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 05:11 PM (ZFUt7)

239 On second thought, keep the oysters, bring me a steak.Medium rare, baked potato and asparagus. Then we'll discuss dessert.

Posted by: Rosasharn at March 26, 2017 05:11 PM (PzBTm)

240 Clearly you are unfamiliar with the large herds of crabs that used to cross the prairies, and ultimately ended up in my people's casseroles.
Posted by: Sen. Warren at March 26, 2017 05:04 PM (LAe3v)


So that's where artificial crab came from: Squaw Warren's tribe!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:11 PM (TdMsT)

241 I think I'm forming a pellicle.

Posted by: Ready For Chelsea!!11!! at March 26, 2017 05:12 PM (Tyii7)

242 Gimbles

Posted by: Fox2! at March 26, 2017 05:09 PM (aN6O

I have no idea what that is.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 05:12 PM (rF0hx)

243 Ben Had, no heresy involving triscuits. The originals were always good, and I've tried each of the 39 new flavors, like them all. Good by themselves or with zillions of other things.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 05:12 PM (QDnY+)

244
What does it mean, tho?

This is not a sushi bar.

Okay, then tell me what it IS.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 05:12 PM (kWewi)

245 Best alternative is bacon-wrapped scallops. Best EVAH are at the Lone Star Steakhouse in Manassas VA.
Friggin' melt in your mouth good!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:13 PM (0tfLf)

246 My Lentil Soup

1 can Progresso Lentil soup
3 Hillshire Hot Links sausages
1 bunch scallions
1 large celery stalk
1/2 Green Bell Pepper


I love that the first ingredient of your lentil soup is "lentil soup" (and I mean that in a good natured way) I do like the cooking style sometimes called "half scratch" where you combine pre-made items together to make something new.

Posted by: Max Power at March 26, 2017 05:14 PM (QCc6B)

247 Ben Had, how is your menu coming along for your game tasting? All set?

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:14 PM (sBOL1)

248 237 Somebody told me that bearded clams can be good for your libido too. But I've heard there are a lot of different types so u have to careful Anybody know of a good place to get some in the Chicago area?
Posted by: Big swingin Al at March 26, 2017 05:10 PM (NVqYx)



No matter where you encounter them, stay away from the Brazilian viariety. I hear they can be disappointing.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:14 PM (TdMsT)

249 Bacon-wrapped scallops on the grill are nice.


Speaking of which, need to clean the grill.


Mostly out of bullets so can't avoid that chore any more by reloading. Dang.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2017 05:15 PM (QDnY+)

250 Gimbles

That long-gone department store?

Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 26, 2017 05:15 PM (044Fx)

251 Rhomboid.
Yeah. Seattle can be dicey particularly given the red tide issues they always have in the area. I only go to well known places.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:15 PM (0tfLf)

252 Got biscuits in the oven, half with cheese on top. Only thing I had time to bake.

Would have been fine to do a different recipe, if I hadn't planned on making the shortest recipe (2 ingredients) with the shortest bake time (10 minutes).

>>Spoon bread

I just got a recipe for crawfish spoonbread today.

Will need to try that soon. Some crawfish, a little Cajun seasoning, etc.

Posted by: Mama AJ, nice person, not a witch at March 26, 2017 05:16 PM (gTQoY)

253 I had a housemate from England who loved mussels. Used to buy them maybe twice a month. Keep in mind, this is mid-Michigan, where the only living mussels within 100 miles are clogging power plant intake pipes or stuck to international freighters. He'd steam them, toss the ones that didn't open, watch a movie with a Stella Artois and his mussels and butter, and then explosively evacuate from both ends until about 2pm the next day.

I'm not sure what the moral of this story is.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:16 PM (8nWyX)

254 Nothing much to report on the gastronomic front, except that for breakfast I made a Dungeness crab omelet plus mashed potatoes that made lunch unnecessary.

But. Harvest stew and French hard cider for dinner. The Frogs have it down in the hard cider department.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:16 PM (/WPPJ)

255 I don't eat oysters in the months ending in y , r , h , l , t and e.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:17 PM (IDPbH)

256
I've been to the 'fresh seafood' case at several grocery stores in Ohio. The definition of 'fresh' seems to decay exponentially with distance from ocean.

When you've caught fresh fish, bought fresh fish, the sight of week old fish on ice is gag-Inducing.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 05:17 PM (ZFUt7)

257 Skookumchuk, both your breakfast and your dinner sound heavenly. Mrs. Skook is a lucky lady for sure.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:18 PM (sBOL1)

258 Oysters: Elliots on the Seattle waterfront, if you can stand the progtopia. Kumamotos are my favorite. Have a few and some pints at the bar. Then get a table for the Cioppino. Yum!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 05:18 PM (GX63o)

259 255 I don't eat oysters in the months ending in y , r , h , l , t and e.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:17 PM (IDPbH)

*****

Ha. Right now all across 'Merica people are going...let's see...July. Yeah. That's one. June...

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:19 PM (0tfLf)

260 No matter where you encounter them, stay away from the Brazilian viariety. I hear they can be disappointing.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:14 PM (TdMsT)


Querida senhora, I assure you that the Brazilian variety is never disappointing.

Posted by: The Paolo at March 26, 2017 05:19 PM (8nWyX)

261 bluebell- everything is set, I have added some quail medallions along with the duck for the first course.
I've got the wines for the meal but I need to find another source for a good chocolate port for the dessert. Thank you for asking and you and washrivergirl are still invited.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:20 PM (koJdH)

262 These scallops are raw, you donkey!

Posted by: Gordon Ramsey at March 26, 2017 05:20 PM (kTF2Z)

263 Oh yum, Ben Had - sounds divine.

I sure do wish we could come! Especially since you were kind enough to let us invite ourselves .

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:21 PM (sBOL1)

264 We both have stomach flu. It was awful. I'm a day ahead of my husband so I know we'll both live.

I love oysters. With any luck, we'll sell two places and move to the coast.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 26, 2017 05:21 PM (Lqy/e)

265 Jeremy Piven's tits went well with his vagina.

No way I am living without Sashimi. If I grow tits, great.
Be nice to play with some of those again.

Posted by: garrett


I think you can rest easy. From the bing searches
it looks like Piven claimed his gynecomastia came from *soy* milk, not sashimi. If you really want significant boobage, you should go for implants.

Posted by: Lana Wachowski at March 26, 2017 05:21 PM (vRcUp)

266 Flounder @258.
Good tip. Elliot's is a good choice.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:22 PM (0tfLf)

267 I've been to the 'fresh seafood' case at several grocery stores in Ohio. The definition of 'fresh' seems to decay exponentially with distance from ocean.

When you've caught fresh fish, bought fresh fish, the sight of week old fish on ice is gag-Inducing.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 05:17 PM (ZFUt7)



The only way to eat seafood in Ohio is flash frozen. And some types of seafood don't freeze well.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:22 PM (TdMsT)

268 Never been a fan of any of Martha Stewart's recipes. Not that I've tried many. But her gastronomic skills are vastly overrated. Presentation-wise, she's skilled obviously.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (oAY8z)

269 bluebell, the harvest stew is basically chuck roast with parsnips, turnips, onion, carrots, and diced tomato. You drain the tomato to leave very little liquid, so you are roasting the veggies more than stewing them. Turns out pretty sweet - the parsnips in particular. One of my favorite recipes.

It's kind of funny that none of the checkout clerks have ever tried parsnips. "A few people buy these, but I have no idea what they use them for..."

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (/WPPJ)

270 Regarding Chelsea Clinton's tweets, I am pretty sure that she is not thinking that Lincoln ever wore a MAGA hat, but rather that she is shocked that Trumpers would actually use that image of Lincoln in a MAGA hat on a program. Because the Dems own Lincoln or something.

There, now I have expended more time thinking about a Chelsea Clinton tweet than I ever hoped to.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (HV1LS)

271 268 Never been a fan of any of Martha Stewart's recipes. Not that I've tried many. But her gastronomic skills are vastly overrated. Presentation-wise, she's skilled obviously.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (oAY8z)



I have had astounding success with the Pioneer Lady's recipes.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (TdMsT)

272 hogmartin @ 216- Old Testament, dude. If I had not been meant to eat raw oysters, I would not have been fishing off a bridge at Pawleys Island in the summer of 1952. But I'll ask my pastor at bible Study tonight. He's from N.C. and he eats oysters. Not the mountain kind either.

Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 05:24 PM (zLDYs)

273 Seafood in Ohio.
Walk past the steaks and roasts and say "See? Food!"

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:24 PM (0tfLf)

274 Sounds corny but fun, I heard one of the staff on Carolla's show describe a couples party theme they participated in where you are given a certain amount of money to buy whatever you wanted at a 7-11 and prepare a meal . Best meal to be judged at the party. Sort of like the food network show , Chopped.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:25 PM (IDPbH)

275 It's kind of funny that none of the checkout clerks have ever tried parsnips. "A few people buy these, but I have no idea what they use them for..."
Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (/WPPJ)
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Ha! They should go to the international grocery store I go to occasionally; some of the veggies there are downright scary looking. I swear some of them have teeth.

Roasting veggies is my favorite way to prepare them - they always taste sweeter and better. Especially carrots - yum. And sweet potatoes.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:25 PM (sBOL1)

276 Oysters, one of my favorites. Just the thing for replenishing Previous Bodily Fluids.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 26, 2017 05:25 PM (jX8K2)

277 It's like the old Ben Franklin quote - "oysters are proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:26 PM (/WPPJ)

278 He's from N.C. and he eats oysters. Not the mountain kind either.
Posted by: Eromero at March 26, 2017 05:24 PM (zLDYs)
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So you say, but is he from Rocky Mount, NC?

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:26 PM (sBOL1)

279 Garlic butter sauce will make you do crazy things. I loved the steamed clam and I could even do the escargot.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:26 PM (koJdH)

280 Roasting veggies is my favorite way to prepare them - they always taste sweeter and better. Especially carrots - yum. And sweet potatoes.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:25 PM (sBOL1)


Roasting is tasty, but there is no vegetable that can't be made better by pickling.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:27 PM (8nWyX)

281 256
I've been to the 'fresh seafood' case at several grocery stores in Ohio. The definition of 'fresh' seems to decay exponentially with distance from ocean.

When you've caught fresh fish, bought fresh fish, the sight of week old fish on ice is gag-Inducing.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 05:17 PM (ZFUt7)


What's really sad is living 10 miles from the Atlantic and the Chesapeake Bay, but the local grocery only has fish from Brazil, Chile, Taiwan or China.
Luckily, I don't have to go far to get REAL, fresh fish from a decent fishmonger. Almost anything caught this morning can be bought in time for dinner.

And, with the weather breaking, plenty of friends are just looking for an excuse to take the boat out.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:28 PM (2SERm)

282 I have a cornbread recipe that I have used for years, but it always tastes of baking soda.
for various reasons I altered my recipe last night and wound up with a very nice cornbread recipe, it just takes extra time.

Mix together:
1 cup of cornmeal
1 cup of warm water
1/2 tsp yeast

set in a warm place and let work overnight.

The next morning when you are ready to bake, heat a 9x9 pan in the oven with a tablespoon of shortening or lard,
Do this as you preheat your oven for baking. It will start to smoke if you let it go too long so keep an eye on it.

Mix in a separate bowl:
1/2 cup of water
1/4 cup of dry milk
1 Tbsp molasses
1/2 tsp salt
1 beaten egg
1 cup of flour

Then fold this into the cornmeal and water mixture that was working over night.
Don't overbeat because you want to keep the yeast generated CO2 in the cornmeal.

the batter should be like thick pancake batter.

spoon the batter into the 9x9 pan on top of the heated shortening.

Bake at 300F for 30 minutes or until a knife stuck in comes out clean.

It does not taste like baking soda at all, and actually does rise well

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 05:28 PM (0hI48)

283 The art of French cooking- a good sauce will cover a multitude of sins.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:28 PM (koJdH)

284 >>Roasting is tasty, but there is no vegetable that can't be made better by pickling.

Brussels Sprouts. No way on earth to make them good let alone better.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:29 PM (/tuJf)

285 e'd steam them, toss the ones that didn't open,
watch a movie with a Stella Artois and his mussels and butter, and then
explosively evacuate from both ends until about 2pm the next day.



I'm not sure what the moral of this story is.

Posted by: hogmartin


That genetically, the Brits never recovered from the Somme?

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:30 PM (LAe3v)

286 Substitute biscuits are not pretty.

Sniff.

If you're going to take non-buttermilk biscuits to Southerners, you need to have a good reason or make them wonderful.

These are the ones I usually do and they are pretty and good:

http://www.thecountrycook.net/cream-biscuits-only-2-ingredients

But they taste good, according to my guinea pig, so that's good enough for today!

Posted by: Mama AJ, nice person, not a witch at March 26, 2017 05:31 PM (gTQoY)

287 There's a hoity-toity British hunting magazine called The Field (where they advertise $150,000 Purdey shotguns) and they have a recipe section with the latest entry being "Citrus, ricotta, ans honey cheesecake with a pistachio base" which is next on my list.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:31 PM (/WPPJ)

288 Brussels Sprouts. No way on earth to make them good let alone better.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:29 PM (/tuJf)


We appear to have arrived at the oyster/brussels sprout negotiating table. I'll eat those little green bastards steamed, sauteed, roasted, pickled, whatever. Not going near a raw oyster though.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:31 PM (8nWyX)

289 Brussels Sprouts. No way on earth to make them good let alone better.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:29 PM (/tuJf)

Roasted with pancetta and a glaze of balsamic. Not bad.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (GX63o)

290 Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:26 PM (koJdH)

I wanted to say escargot was disgusting but it wasn't half bad the one time I had it. And yes the sauce it came with probably made it so. Don't think it was a garlic butter sauce though. Could have been?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (IDPbH)

291 270 Regarding Chelsea Clinton's tweets, I am pretty sure that she is not thinking that Lincoln ever wore a MAGA hat, but rather that she is shocked that Trumpers would actually use that image of Lincoln in a MAGA hat on a program. Because the Dems own Lincoln or something.

There, now I have expended more time thinking about a Chelsea Clinton tweet than I ever hoped to.
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM (HV1LS)

+++

Just remember, she debuted her spinach pancakes for all the world to see and they were a disgusting mess on a plate. Really ridiculously horrible looking - but she was so very proud of them. I think she is mentally unwell.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (Ivjge)

292 Brussels Sprouts. No way on earth to make them good let alone better.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:29 PM (/tuJf)

******

Word!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (0tfLf)

293 I have had astounding success with the Pioneer Lady's Woman's recipes.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 05:23 PM

FIFA.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (Dhht7)

294 "Umami" is Japanese for "savory," the word that was in use in English for this flavor for hundreds of years.

It's not pretentious, just unnecessary.

Literally, if you look up the definition of the word, almost every one falls back on "savory" to describe the flavor. Someone literally just substituted the word to gain attention, like someone redefined Pluto as a "dwarf planet" largely to justify publishing a lot of otherwise unmentionable papers in journals.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (wB8Tg)

295 We appear to have arrived at the oyster/brussels sprout negotiating table.

That's like choosing between Iraq and Iran.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:33 PM (LAe3v)

296 >>We appear to have arrived at the oyster/brussels sprout negotiating table. I'll eat those little green bastards steamed, sauteed, roasted, pickled, whatever. Not going near a raw oyster though.

I find this arrangement acceptable.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:33 PM (/tuJf)

297 Brusssels sprouts tossed in bacon fat, roasted with bacon and garlic.

My kids even eat them.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:33 PM (sBOL1)

298 Skookumchuk- Love the pistachio. After learning that the Taliban makes a huge amount of money off them I have backed off.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:34 PM (koJdH)

299 297
Brusssels sprouts tossed in bacon fat, roasted with bacon and garlic.



My kids even eat them.





Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:33 PM (sBOL1)

Yep. Bacon to the rescue, again.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 05:34 PM (GX63o)

300
When I was a kid mom would shop on Saturdays.

Back then EVERYONE did their grocery shopping on Saturdays.

Every we went to the supermarket, I HAD TO stop at the lobster tanks and look at the lobsters. Tap on the glass. Then go.


I'll bet my left nut most of you did the exact same thing.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 05:35 PM (kWewi)

301 Yeah, raw oysters taste like snot. I love them. But, then again, I still pick my nose and eat it. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Spaulding at March 26, 2017 05:35 PM (CEU4j)

302 Roasted with pancetta and a glaze of balsamic. Not bad.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner


As long as "glaze of balsamic" is followed by "and dumped into the compost bin".

I wanted to say escargot was disgusting but it wasn't half bad the one time I had it.

I've had it several times, and enjoyed it thoroughly each time. It's surprising, but there may be something to the French reputation for haute cuisine.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:35 PM (LAe3v)

303 JackStraw have you been to the restaurant in Dubai that you select your fish from a rather large aquarium?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:35 PM (IDPbH)

304 Lincoln wore his ball cap with the bill pointing sideways.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 05:36 PM (IqV8l)

305 Yep. Bacon to the rescue, again.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 05:34 PM (GX63o)

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Our old dinner club had a different theme every time, and once it was bacon. Which means bacon had to be in every dish. I wish I could remember what the dessert was - it might have been chocolate bacon cupcakes.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:36 PM (sBOL1)

306
When mom went to Sears or KMart or whatever department store I had to hide in every single clothes rack. Just had to.

They were all my "forts."

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 26, 2017 05:36 PM (kWewi)

307 >>I would just like to point out that there were a gaggle of perky, young co-eds working at the raw bar/restaurant where we went for brunch today.

There were none at the Brussels Sprouts bar. Because there wasn't one. Because Brussels Sprouts, much like Miracle Whip, are of Satan.

Advantage: Oysters

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:36 PM (/tuJf)

308 I have added some quail medallions along with the duck for the first course.
I've got the wines for the meal but I need to find another source for a good chocolate port for the dessert. Thank you for asking and you and washrivergirl are still invited.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:20 PM (koJdH)
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This is like a turducken of White Privilege. Ye Gods.

But having said that, may I recommend Cove Point Winery's Orange Chocolate Port? Fabulous.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:36 PM (PhYV5)

309 What's really sad is living 10 miles from the Atlantic and the Chesapeake Bay, but the local grocery only has fish from Brazil, Chile, Taiwan or China.
Luckily, I don't have to go far to get REAL, fresh fish from a decent fishmonger. Almost anything caught this morning can be bought in time for dinner.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:28 PM (2SERm)

Calabash, NC. Sad.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:37 PM (48QDY)

310 301
Yeah, raw oysters taste like snot. I love them. But, then again, I still pick my nose and eat it. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Spaulding


Ah, but did you eat it con gusto, or merely for the calories?

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:37 PM (LAe3v)

311 I think she is mentally unwell.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:32 PM (Ivjge)

I don't. Mental illness is an easy out.

I think she is a spoiled, entitled, myopic bitch, who has never had to struggle, who has never had anyone say, "Chelsea, that sucks. Do it over."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 05:37 PM (rF0hx)

312
JackStraw have you been to the restaurant in Dubai that you select your fish from a rather large aquarium?
Posted by: Jack Sock


Restaurant at the end of the universe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 05:37 PM (IqV8l)

313 If I were trapped in a steel shipping container with nothing but oysters and brussel sprouts, I would eat the shipping container.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 26, 2017 05:38 PM (wB8Tg)

314 I once had a steak in France. Didn't think it was too bad until I found out I had shown his brother at the Cow Palace in '73.

This is not a true story.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:39 PM (koJdH)

315 She Who Must Be Obeyed actually makes very good Brussels Sprouts.

Next on the list for me are Ortega Roast Beef Sandwiches, a reminder of my California childhood. Roast beef, an Ortega (Anaheim) chili, Monterey Jack, pepperjack, tomato on buttered sourdough. I think this time I'll make them using the panini press with tongs, in the fireplace.

(Autocorrect doesn't like "panini." It gives me a choice between "Paganini" and "panic."

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:39 PM (/WPPJ)

316 Way back in the 80's I was working in Japan and flying through Osaka a lot. There was a tempura stand there that I liked but the Lord only knows what I ate there. At least it was fried so that helped. For a true culinary adventure buy the box lunches on the bullet train. The more disgusting the living animal looks the more cache it has for the Japanese.

We won't discuss the dining habits of the Phillipino people.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 26, 2017 05:39 PM (LheKO)

317 I think she is a spoiled, entitled, myopic bitch, who has never had to
struggle, who has never had anyone say, "Chelsea, that sucks. Do it
over."


Wait, are we talking about Chelsea or Hillary? Or should I embrace the healing power of "and"?

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:40 PM (LAe3v)

318
I think she is a spoiled, entitled, myopic bitch, who has never had to struggle, who has never had anyone say, "Chelsea, that sucks. Do it over."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 05:37 PM (rF0hx)

+++

Can't disagree on that aternate assessment.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:41 PM (Ivjge)

319 >>JackStraw have you been to the restaurant in Dubai that you select your fish from a rather large aquarium?

No, but I have been one like that in Abu Dhabi. Very good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:41 PM (/tuJf)

320 Brussels Sprouts. No way on earth to make them good let alone better.

Posted by: JackStraw


Cooked brussels sprouts taste pleasantly bitter. How do you feel about broccoli rabe?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 05:41 PM (vRcUp)

321 Ah the Food Threat or as we call it in the Nevergiveup House: Fantasy Land

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 05:41 PM (SjImc)

322 Skynet went active a month ago. The nukes popped everywhere as the machines took over. The resistance was still forming as I discovered a small store that had been heavily damaged but still had some food on the shelves. In one corner were some brussel sprouts.
I was able to gag one down, comforting myself with a strong swallow of wine and the knowledge it wasn't okra.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:42 PM (0tfLf)

323 Dang, the wife is cooking something with garlic downstairs, and there are occasional wafts upstairs. Wafts, I say.

Also, I may have been in the wine.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:42 PM (LAe3v)

324 as we call it in the Nevergiveup House: Fantasy Land

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 05:41 PM (SjImc)

The first great Spring day I will have you over for a mixed grill.

Steak, sausage, lamb chops, scallops.

And booze. Lots of booze.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 05:43 PM (rF0hx)

325 22
Skynet went active a month ago. The nukes popped everywhere as the
machines took over. The resistance was still forming as I discovered a
small store that had been heavily damaged but still had some food on the
shelves. In one corner were some brussel sprouts.

I was able to gag one down, comforting myself with a strong swallow of wine and the knowledge it wasn't okra.


It's that kind of creativity that keeps me coming back here.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:43 PM (LAe3v)

326 All Hail Eris- Thank you for the suggestion. I will be sure and give it an ample tasting.

I may have to change my dessert to accent that, but that's no biggie.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:44 PM (koJdH)

327 Oh man, this orange chocolate port is good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:44 PM (PhYV5)

328 Posted by: pep at March 26, 2017 05:43 PM (LAe3v)

Yep, pep.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:44 PM (48QDY)

329 The first great Spring day I will have you over for a mixed grill.
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Is that a plural "you?" Because it looks like a plural "you" to me.

Hey guys, dinner chez Dildo next nice day! Pass it on!

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:45 PM (sBOL1)

330 316, Dave at Buffalo Roam - did you every go that that fugu place in Dotombori, on a barge in the river?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:45 PM (/WPPJ)

331 319 >>JackStraw have you been to the restaurant in Dubai that you select your fish from a rather large aquarium?

No, but I have been one like that in Abu Dhabi. Very good.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:41 PM (/tuJf)

Maybe that's the one I meant. Saw it on a documentary.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:45 PM (IDPbH)

332 Oh man, this orange chocolate port is good.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:44 PM (PhYV5)

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I'll bet it's great. I love chocolate and orange together. Those Milanos - yum.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (sBOL1)

333 >>Cooked brussels sprouts taste pleasantly bitter. How do you feel about broccoli rabe?

It's more of a personal thing with Brussels Sprouts and me. My folks loved them and my mom made them all the time. And my father was the type where you didn't leave the table until your plate was clean. And he took that seriously.

We had some epic stare downs over and with Brussels Sprouts which I always lost, eventually. So no, I will not willing eat Brussels Sprouts.

FREEDOM!

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (/tuJf)

334 Are oysters the same thing as mussels? I have two bags of mussels in my freezer and I don't know what to do with them. They look like what I imagine barnacles would look like.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (dFi94)

335
Our wild Friday orgy:

1) Go to our favorite Cajun restaurant so Her Majesty can have her chargrilled oysters and drinkie.
2) Walk over to Barnes & Noble.
3) Fall asleep in our chairs while reading.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 05:47 PM (qEnGf)

336 Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:42 PM (0tfLf)

Heh that was awesome.

And that's why this Louisiana raised boy don't eat New Orleans style gumbo.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:47 PM (IDPbH)

337 They look like what I imagine barnacles would look like.

Our plan is working!

Posted by: Mollusk Protection Program at March 26, 2017 05:47 PM (LAe3v)

338 The first great Spring day I will have you over for a mixed grill.

Steak, sausage, lamb chops, scallops.

And booze. Lots of booze.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 05:43 PM (rF0hx)

To bad we can't set up a target in the back and fire off a few rounds while I drink and your cook. I am sure the vimen would love that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 05:48 PM (SjImc)

339 Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (dFi94)

Just wait.

And get some good bread.

But fresh is best.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:48 PM (48QDY)

340 grammie, 334 - in Chile they eat barnacles. If you like mussels, you'll like barnacles.

Mmm. Barnacles.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:48 PM (/WPPJ)

341 Skookumchuk, no I didn't but I heard about it from one of the other guys. The stories from Japan are best shared with others familiar with Japan, lest they think me bullshitting.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 26, 2017 05:49 PM (LheKO)

342 Are oysters the same thing as mussels? I have two bags of mussels in my freezer and I don't know what to do with them. They look like what I imagine barnacles would look like.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (dFi94)


Short answer, no, see comment #253. They're usually steamed either by themselves or in something like a paella.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:49 PM (8nWyX)

343 Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (sBOL1)

Orange and chocolate is a tootsie roll.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:49 PM (IDPbH)

344 Really? Its that bad in Calabash, too?
Must be a Food Lion...

Heh. A 5 iron away from Shalotte.
(I always loved the name of that town)

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:50 PM (2SERm)

345 was able to gag one down, comforting myself with a strong swallow of wine and the knowledge it wasn't okra.

Had some pickled okra once. It tasted ok, but consistency-wise, okra is too starchy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 05:50 PM (vRcUp)

346 Our plan is working!
Posted by: Mollusk Protection Program at March 26, 2017 05:47 PM (LAe3v)

+++

LOL.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:50 PM (Ivjge)

347 Okra = Vile.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 05:50 PM (0tfLf)

348 120 ... "Fun fact: H.P. Lovecraft hated seafood.

That's why we kept him up in the Providence Plantation part of the state and never let him into the actual Rhode Island part."

JackStraw, So glad to see the proper attitude regarding the unwashed in the Providence Plantations part of RI still exists. :-)

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (V+03K)

349 Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:50 PM (2SERm)

Just drive by Boundary House. Others are OK

BTW. Calipari should be in prison.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (48QDY)

350 Okra pickles make great dirty martinis. You people are savages.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (PhYV5)

351 Okra is good fried or in gumbo. Don't touch it otherwise.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (qEnGf)

352 The other night we had brussel sprouts for dinner. Just brussel sprouts without anything else. I made some kind of meat, I think it was shark, and it was horrid. So I dumped it in the garbage can and we were left with the sprouts. I was perfectly happy. Rev seemed a little .... not happy. He ate them though. He said they were good. But he always lies to me about my cooking. Then we went to town and got drinks. So not a bad meal.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:53 PM (dFi94)

353 #216, Jenna Jameson converted to Orthodox Judiasm when she remarried, and she said what she misses most about having gone hardcore Kosher is lobster.

It's OK, I'll eat her share.

Two times coming back in from overseas deployments, we landed at Bangor, Maine to clear customs, and both times I had what I thought was a pretty good lobster roll. Then I was up outside Boston in Quincy, Mass a couple years back, and holy shit. The Lobster Stop, right at the traffic circle where the USS Salem museum used to be before the pier collapsed and they moved her, damn. Get in there and get some. Food is amazing.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 26, 2017 05:53 PM (YS6Xu)

354 There's a hole-in-the-wall fish fry place around here that does a pretty good fried okra. Good breading, nice texture, all that.

Or maybe it's fried orca.

One of those, I'm pretty sure. I think the vegetable.

Or maybe the cetacean.

Whatever, it's tasty.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:53 PM (8nWyX)

355 Orange and chocolate is a tootsie roll.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:49 PM (IDPbH)
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Really? I didn't know that.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:54 PM (sBOL1)

356 It's more of a personal thing with Brussels Sprouts and me. My folks loved them and my mom made them all the time. And my father was the type where you didn't leave the table until your plate was clean. And he took that seriously.

...

Posted by: JackStraw


Heh. I had a similar experience with salmon. I was forced to eat it so many times as a kid, I don't like it anymore because of that association, although I have to admit, there's nothing wrong with the taste of it. Amazing how parents have a gift of conditioning you to dislike certain foods for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 05:54 PM (vRcUp)

357 334 Are oysters the same thing as mussels? I have two bags of mussels in my freezer and I don't know what to do with them. They look like what I imagine barnacles would look like.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (dFi94)


Grammie,
Look for commenter Jean.
He has a great recipe for mussels. Have white wine and some kind of hot pepper on hand.

(I could make up the recipe from memory, but it wouldn't be the same, I guarantee)

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:54 PM (2SERm)

358 Slimy = inedible okra.
Slighty crisp = delicious okra.

I think there are about three elderly black ladies in Mississippi who can cook it properly, but that's just a guess. For example, Sports 22 in Hattiesburg or Louisiana Sisters outside the south gate at Camp Shelby.

Heaven.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 05:55 PM (/WPPJ)

359 You people are savages.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (PhYV5)
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They are, aren't they? Veggie haters, most of them.

Grilled okra is great. My kids ask for it, no lie.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:55 PM (sBOL1)

360 In true AoS tradition the Brussels sprouts vs Okra wars have broken out.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 05:55 PM (koJdH)

361 Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:54 PM (2SERm)
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Okay, I will do that - thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:56 PM (dFi94)

362 and what's this shit about Trump liking a steak well done?

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 05:56 PM (b7fwp)

363 Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (qEnGf)

It should be no where near gumbo. I feel sorry for people who have only had gumbo at those New Orleans restaurants geared to visitors.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:56 PM (IDPbH)

364 So not a bad meal.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:53 PM (dFi94)
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Atta girl, grammie. Keep expectations low, and they'll never be disappointed.

My motto of sorts.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:56 PM (sBOL1)

365 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 05:54 PM (vRcUp)

Should've just done like my wife did with green peas at her family's table.

Puke.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:57 PM (48QDY)

366 350 Okra pickles make great dirty martinis. You people are savages.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:52 PM (PhYV5)

+++

I'm a savage. When I used to go to Dan and Louis's Oyster Bar in Portland, I think I always ordered a hamburger.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:57 PM (Ivjge)

367 Now see, if I converted I would miss bacon the most. Is there an acceptable substitute? I found a hippie soy bacon that I liked, and the turkey bacon is palatable enough, but it doesn't make heaven and nature sing like the scent of bacon hissing and popping in the oven.

Why haven't any joo scientists developed a pig without cloven hooves? Problem solved!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:57 PM (PhYV5)

368 Brussel sprouts are like little cabbage heads of grass

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 05:58 PM (GPaiX)

369 Why haven't any joo scientists developed a pig without cloven hooves? Problem solved!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 05:57 PM (PhYV5)


Erm... most of us half-assed Jews suck down bacon like it's coming out of a firehose, dearie.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (8nWyX)

370 >>JackStraw, So glad to see the proper attitude regarding the unwashed in the Providence Plantations part of RI still exists. :-)

Oh yeah. Us and Them is still alive.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (/tuJf)

371 Keep expectations low, and they'll never be disappointed.



My motto of sorts.





Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:56 PM (sBOL1)
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If Rev's expectations of my cooking got any lower, he'd be shoveling his way through Albuquerque.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (dFi94)

372 309 What's really sad is living 10 miles from the Atlantic and the Chesapeake Bay, but the local grocery only has fish from Brazil, Chile, Taiwan or China.
Luckily, I don't have to go far to get REAL, fresh fish from a decent fishmonger. Almost anything caught this morning can be bought in time for dinner.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:28 PM (2SERm)

Calabash, NC. Sad.
Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:37 PM (48QDY)

See also: Morehead City, NC. The grocery stores sell shrimp they say is "wild caught"...in Chile, or Argentina, or some such South American country. While right down Hwy. 70, I can buy really fresh "wild caught" shrimp from a guy in Beaufort who sells 'em off the boat.

Posted by: antisocialist at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (W2wn0)

373 355 Orange and chocolate is a tootsie roll.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 05:49 PM (IDPbH)
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Really? I didn't know that.
Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:54 PM (sBOL1)


Vodka, Creme de Cocoa, Orange juice.
Sounds gross, but it tastes exactly like a tootsie roll.
Probably the mixed 'mixed drink' I ever had - at 15.

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (2SERm)

374 >>> Keep expectations low, and they'll never be disappointed.

Apparently your cooking is so bad that your kids wil ear okra ;--)

Posted by: fluffy at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (jw2Xw)

375 Had oysters Friday night at Crabbie Bill's at Indian Rocks Beach south of Clearwater. They were serving oysters from the James River. Exquisite. Better than the local oysters and better than I remember James River oysters when I was stationed in Yorktown.

Oysters are a lifetime adventure.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 26, 2017 06:00 PM (8CRUT)

376 Vodka, Creme de Cocoa, Orange juice.
Sounds gross, but it tastes exactly like a tootsie roll.
Probably the mixed 'mixed drink' I ever had - at 15.
Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (2SERm)


Vanilla Stoli, orange juice. Tastes exactly like an orange creamsicle.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 06:00 PM (8nWyX)

377 Isn't Roy Williams on board with the trannypervs like Coach K?

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 06:01 PM (GsAUU)

378 most of us half-assed Jews suck down bacon like it's coming out of a firehose, dearie.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (8nWyX)


LOL

Are you looking at me when you say that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 06:01 PM (SjImc)

379 153
Jack, that's how those shrimp were.



Not used to it. Glad I had the experience, but not sure I want to repeat it anytime soon.



I would love to learn what that delicious spicy cayenne broth is called, and how to make that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 04:43 PM (qazQh)

Look for crab boil in the supermarket or online. I've used Zatarains in the past. You typically have some andouille, lemon, and onion in the boil, then potatoes, and corn going in first, then the seafood at the last few minutes.

Yum!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 06:01 PM (GX63o)

380 Isn't Roy Williams on board with the trannypervs like Coach K?
Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 26, 2017 06:01 PM (GsAUU)

Yes that is why I am not watching

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (SjImc)

381 Are you looking at me when you say that?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 06:01 PM (SjImc)


We can discuss it over the Pesach ham.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (8nWyX)

382 Apparently your cooking is so bad that your kids wil ear okra ;--)
Posted by: fluffy at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (jw2Xw)
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Ha - true! And Brussels sprouts!

There's a method to my madness.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (sBOL1)

383 Oh yeah and sprinkle a bit of Tony's Chachere seasoning on the heap of food after you dump it on the table.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (GX63o)

384
Oh man, this orange chocolate port is good.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


Is that the one next to the USB port?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (IqV8l)

385
We can discuss it over the Pesach ham.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (8nWyX)

Sounds like a plan to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2017 06:02 PM (SjImc)

386 The Boiling Point outside New Iberia is good for fried seafood and the Little River Inn in New Iberia downtown has been a stop for more complex Cajun or Creole food. The McIlhenny empire is nearby at Avery Island too.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 26, 2017 06:03 PM (LheKO)

387 Erm... most of us half-assed Jews suck down bacon like it's coming out of a firehose, dearie.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 05:59 PM (8nWyX)
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Bacon Firehose.

band name!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:03 PM (PhYV5)

388 Hey guys, dinner chez Dildo next nice day! Pass it on!

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:45 PM (sBOL1)

Sure!

I won't be here, so make sure you clean up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (rF0hx)

389 and what's this shit about Trump liking a steak well done?

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 26, 2017 05:56 PM (b7fwp)


With CATSUP.

Second look at impeachment.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (HV1LS)

390 Grilled okra is great. My kids ask for it, no lie.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 05:55 PM (sBOL1)
*****

Someone's kids have the keys to the liquor cabinet.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (0tfLf)

391 Hey, since I think I have most of my dress posse here, here's the winner:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/m234l4n

(Forgive me, CBD, for going OT.)

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (sBOL1)

392 I just found out that Pumpernickel means 'devil's fart' bread.

It's too bad I didn't learn this when I was 9.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2017 06:05 PM (GgzGa)

393
I'm a savage. When I used to go to Dan and Louis's Oyster Bar in Portland, I think I always ordered a hamburger.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 05:57 PM (Ivjge)

When I lived in WA and wold go with a group of people that wanted geoduck, I always ordered a burger.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 06:05 PM (uKRys)

394 Are oysters the same thing as mussels? I have two bags of mussels in my freezer and I don't know what to do with them. They look like what I imagine barnacles would look like.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 05:46 PM (dFi94)

Short answer, no, see comment #253. They're usually steamed either by themselves or in something like a paella.

Posted by: hogmartin


Mmmm. Steamed mussels in cream/lemon sauce.

Grammie, if you've never had mussels before you should go to an Italian restaurant, and maybe get your husband to order them as an appetizer and try one. They are similar to clams, but with a stronger flavor. And ask for a spoon - I can never resist finishing off the broth. Otherwise you'd have to use one of the shells as a McGyver kludge in order to drink it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 06:05 PM (vRcUp)

395 Someone's kids have the keys to the liquor cabinet.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (0tfLf)

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I think all you veggie haters need to come over to my house and let me make veggies for you. Ya bunch of wimps.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:06 PM (sBOL1)

396 386 The Boiling Point outside New Iberia is good for fried seafood and the Little River Inn in New Iberia downtown has been a stop for more complex Cajun or Creole food. The McIlhenny empire is nearby at Avery Island too.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 26, 2017 06:03 PM (LheKO)

You just reminded me of Johnny Hector out jumping me by five feet in the long jump. At least he didn't run over me on the football field like he did to a few of my friends.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 06:07 PM (IDPbH)

397 http://preview.tinyurl.com/m234l4n
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*Squees in girlie delite*

You're wearing ankle strap shoes, right?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:07 PM (PhYV5)

398 I can never resist finishing off the broth.
Otherwise you'd have to use one of the shells as a McGyver kludge in
order to drink it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 06:05 PM (vRcUp)

That's what the bread is for. And grammie, I don't think I'd want to do anything with mussels in the freezer. I was under the impression that you want to get them live, and toss the ones that don't open on cooking.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 26, 2017 06:08 PM (GX63o)

399 You're wearing ankle strap shoes, right?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:07 PM (PhYV5)
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No, either silver sandals or my new spahhhkly black shoes.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:08 PM (sBOL1)

400 grammie winger- Is there a nice diner near you that I can chip in for a meal for the Rev and you?
This man has got to have some vittles.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 06:09 PM (koJdH)

401 Oh, and it has pockets!!!!!

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:09 PM (sBOL1)

402 Oysters.

Watch them red tides!

Seriously.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 26, 2017 06:09 PM (FtrY1)

403 I just found out that Pumpernickel means 'devil's fart' bread.

It's too bad I didn't learn this when I was 9.

Posted by: weft cut-loop


Sounds like something Martin Luther would've come up with, although it predates him. He had a famously salty vocabulary. He'd be a fun drinking buddy, as long as I didn't tell him my dad's Jewish.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 06:09 PM (vRcUp)

404 401 Oh, and it has pockets!!!!!

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:09 PM (sBOL1)
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Winner!

So tired of fishing my stiletto out of my bra.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:10 PM (PhYV5)

405 I wouldn't doubt for one tiny little second that the seafood restaurants aren't serving local fresh fish and shrimp because of any number of regulations preventing them from doing it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 26, 2017 06:10 PM (/f1mm)

406 Hey, since I think I have most of my dress posse here, here's the winner:



http://preview.tinyurl.com/m234l4n




Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (sBOL1)
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Oh how pretty, bluebell! You're going to look wonderful!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:11 PM (dFi94)

407 So tired of fishing my stiletto out of my bra.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:10 PM (PhYV5)

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Gets old, doesn't it?

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:11 PM (sBOL1)

408 245 ... "Best alternative is bacon-wrapped scallops. Best EVAH are at the Lone Star Steakhouse in Manassas VA."

Diogenes, Did you mean Logan's or Long Horn steak house? The only Lone Star steak house I recall was in Chantilly and closed years ago,

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (V+03K)

409 Oh man.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (/tuJf)

410 It has pockets ?!? Why can't I ever find a dress with pockets ?!?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (dFi94)

411 Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (sBOL1)

bluebell, lovely dress. Shoes too! And pockets, so no purse.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (uKRys)

412 @406 is that for ace's wedding? Did we set a date yet?

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (HV1LS)

413 wouldn't doubt for one tiny little second that the seafood restaurants aren't serving local fresh fish and shrimp because of any number of regulations preventing them from doing it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 26, 2017 06:10 PM (/f1mm)

Most local vendors are licensed. It's just easier for the tourist traps to order from the big food vendors.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 06:13 PM (48QDY)

414 405 I wouldn't doubt for one tiny little second that the seafood restaurants aren't serving local fresh fish and shrimp because of any number of regulations preventing them from doing it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 26, 2017 06:10 PM (/f1mm)
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I read that the regs for catching and preparing muskrat in Michigan are so onerous that they just bring them in from Canada.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:13 PM (PhYV5)

415 It has pockets ?!? Why can't I ever find a dress with pockets ?!?
Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (dFi94)
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I tried on a long dress, fancier, by the same maker and it had pockets too. I couldn't believe it.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:13 PM (sBOL1)

416 391 Hey, since I think I have most of my dress posse here, here's the winner:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/m234l4n

(Forgive me, CBD, for going OT.)
Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (sBOL1)


That dress is simply gorgeous. I want it and an event to wear it to!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 26, 2017 06:14 PM (TdMsT)

417 "Okra is good fried or in gumbo. Don't touch it otherwise."

I agree. Fried okra is Nature's Most Perfect Food. Boiled okra is of the devil, unless it's in a stew. Of the devil, I say.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 26, 2017 06:14 PM (97XyN)

418 And not so spendy either. Which leaves more money for shoes. And earrings. And necklace.


I know nothing about any of those things because I did not buy shoes last week and I did not go to the boutiques jewelry store this weekend. Twice.


Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:14 PM (dFi94)

419 Bluebell, what a cute dress!!

Posted by: antisocialist at March 26, 2017 06:14 PM (W2wn0)

420 I once formed a pellicle but my dermatologist removed it.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 06:14 PM (0mRoj)

421 the first time i had deer the old man (parent's friend) told me it was bambi.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2017 06:15 PM (fZXYQ)

422 The reason most of our peeled crawfish tail meat comes from Asia is that they still have not invented a machine that can peel crawfish tails efficiently without tearing apart the meat. It has to be done by hand . To expensive to do here to be profitable .

Step one : Invent that machine

Step two : become rich

Step three: eat a lot of crawfish

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 06:15 PM (IDPbH)

423 @406 is that for ace's wedding? Did we set a date yet?
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:12 PM (HV1LS)
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No, it's for another wedding, but I can easily wear it to his too.

I guess we forgot to set a date for him. We should remedy that.

Lizzy, Eris and I wound up on the Wall of Shame because of all that planning. But luckily ace doesn't seem to go back and read the weekend threads, thank God.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:15 PM (sBOL1)

424 I tried on a long dress, fancier, by the same maker and it had pockets too. I couldn't believe it.





Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:13 PM (sBOL1)
======================

I'm going keep that designer in the file cabinet I keep in my head for important stuff.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:16 PM (dFi94)

425 Thanks for all the kind words, ladies.

No necklace, I think, grammie, because of the lace. But nice earrings for sure.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:17 PM (sBOL1)

426 JTB @408
Hhmmmm. Could be Logans. It's been a few years. I worked in Chantilly. The restaurant was South on 28 just across 66 and on the right.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:18 PM (0tfLf)

427 This must be the most Michigan menu ever: muskrat, sauerkraut, corn, mashed taters, and dessert:

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/03/muskrat_lent.html

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 06:18 PM (PhYV5)

428 I guess we forgot to set a date for him. We should remedy that.

Lizzy, Eris and I wound up on the Wall of Shame because of all that planning. But luckily ace doesn't seem to go back and read the weekend threads, thank God.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:15 PM (sBOL1)


Do the rehearsal dinner on a Wednesday. It's "Wingsday" at Hooters.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:19 PM (HV1LS)

429 Jenna Jameson converted to Orthodox Judiasm when she remarried, and she said what she misses most about having gone hardcore Kosher is lobster.

She should have tried to pressure her husband into becoming Reform. Problem solved.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 06:20 PM (vRcUp)

430 Hhmmmm. Could be Logans. It's been a few years. I worked in Chantilly. The restaurant was South on 28 just across 66 and on the right.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:18 PM (0tfLf)


Yeah that would be Logans. Lone Star is on 50 right before you get to 28.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:21 PM (HV1LS)

431 Hey, since I think I have most of my dress posse here, here's the winner:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/m234l4n

(Forgive me, CBD, for going OT.)
Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (sBOL1)

That dress is simply gorgeous. I want it and an event to wear it to!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian


I could rock that. But the rhinestone shoes look a bit tacky, IMHO.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 26, 2017 06:22 PM (vRcUp)

432 I have run out of vodka but I still have ginger beer.

Have a friend that makes mules with bourbon I got that.

I guess off into the great unknown go I.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:23 PM (HV1LS)

433 "I'm going keep that designer in the file cabinet I keep in my head for important stuff."
-Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:16 PM (dFi94)

-Jesus Christ
-The Rev-Run'
-Family
-U.S.A.
-The Cubbies
-Big Ten Championships
-Not Cooking Anything
-Cute and Functional Outerwear

...am I close?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:24 PM (6gk0M)

434 432, blaster - "but I still have ginger beer."

Bundaberg?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 26, 2017 06:24 PM (/WPPJ)

435 Should've just done like my wife did with green peas at her family's table.
Puke.
Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 05:57 PM

LOL. My wife fed her peas to the dog. under the table.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2017 06:25 PM (o/90i)

436 >>I have run out of vodka but I still have ginger beer.

Get rum instead.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:25 PM (/tuJf)

437 OMG its turning into a fashion thread again

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 06:25 PM (GPaiX)

438 Bundaberg ginger beer is da bomb.

I also like the 1893 ginger cola.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 06:25 PM (qazQh)

439 I could rock that. But the rhinestone shoes look a bit tacky, IMHO.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 26, 2017 06:22 PM (vRcUp)

If you are going to be considered an authentic freak, you must know we dress for other women, not men.

Posted by: Bruce at March 26, 2017 06:25 PM (uKRys)

440 Also, Fever Tree's ginger beer actually has more spicyness than sweetness. Seems designed to be a mixer rather than a drink by itself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2017 06:25 PM (qazQh)

441 @406 is that for ace's wedding? Did we set a date yet?

Posted by: blaster


Is it for ace? I think his obsession with cute animals is his way of getting in touch with his feminine side.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 26, 2017 06:26 PM (vRcUp)

442 Sorry, Skip! We're done. All done. No more.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:26 PM (sBOL1)

443 Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:04 PM (sBOL1)

+++

I can't tell you how much I love that dress!

Posted by: washrivergal at March 26, 2017 06:26 PM (Ivjge)

444 426 ... Diogenes, Sorry to say that Lone Star closed some years ago. Mrs. JTB and I used to go there on occasion.

However, I'm going to find a recipe for the bacon wrapped scallops, which sound fantastic. The next time we're at Wegmans (excellent seafood) I'll get enough for a meal. Sadly, just for me. Mrs. JTB is allergic to any seafood. If I get the scallops, she gets their best boneless pork chops. A win-win situation.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 06:26 PM (V+03K)

445 My favorite dress for a wedding was for my daughter's. She was married a few days before Christmas two years ago, and I wore the dress her father bought me for Christmas the year she was born forty years earlier. Silver, knit, to the floor, with glittery stripes of red and green and maroon.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at March 26, 2017 06:27 PM (Kr0FZ)

446 Aw, thanks, washrivergal. I'm not a sparkly kind of person, so this one suits me quite well. It's navy, but not quite as dark as the picture makes it look.

I love the pleats at the waist. And the pockets. Did I mention the pockets?

(Sorry, Skip!)

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:28 PM (sBOL1)

447 Sorry I didn't look at the "dress link", because man. And because Kentucky - North Carolina.

...but mostly Man.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:28 PM (6gk0M)

448 I wish I could find that old recipe I used to have from Cook's Illustrated for the perfect pan fried pork chop. Omg.

Posted by: Infidel at March 26, 2017 06:29 PM (uKRys)

449 Wenda, that sounds lovely. And you were able to wear a dress from 40 years ago? I'd have to lop off all sorts of appendages to be able to do that. God bless ya.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:29 PM (sBOL1)

450 Is it time for a glass of scotch yet?

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 06:29 PM (GPaiX)

451 Bluebell, for what it's worth; a testimonial. I have a Jessica Howard dress that is washable, comfortable, and has held up well for seven years.

Posted by: Emmie at March 26, 2017 06:30 PM (xVuS6)

452 Current ginger beer is store brand from Giant, made with cane sugar and it is "small batch." Just the right amount of sweetness and spiciness.

I was debating rum, I sometimes do Dark N Stormys when I have dark rum. I have some Cruzan aged that may just work.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:30 PM (HV1LS)

453
Chelsea Clinton sees a picture of Abraham Lincoln with a red 'Make America Great Again' hat and tweets:

Please tell me this is Photoshopped. Please?


Sorry, Chelsea. It's real.
You obviously, are not.
When will our long national nightmare of the Clinton dynasty end. Please?

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 06:31 PM (ZFUt7)

454 Yay, Emmie! I haven't even looked to see if it's washable yet.

Oh my gosh, I just saw the new thread!

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:32 PM (sBOL1)

455 >>I was debating rum, I sometimes do Dark N Stormys when I have dark rum. I have some Cruzan aged that may just work.

Oh yes. Rum is God's own perfect creation.

Cruzan will work just fine.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2017 06:32 PM (/tuJf)

456 JBT- have any secrets to share? I haven't cooked a pork chop in six months that hasn't been tough. I always do thick cuts.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (koJdH)

457 -Jesus Christ

-The Rev-Run'

-Family

-U.S.A.

-The Cubbies

-Big Ten Championships

-Not Cooking Anything

-Cute and Functional Outerwear



...am I close?





Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:24 PM (6gk0M)
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It's like you live in my spare room or sumthin!!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (dFi94)

458 Elitist crap. Oysters are for 1%'ers, aren't they?! You want pleasure, real pleasure, then think about that good feeling that you get as you lick deep into the McD's small vanilla milkshake cup, diving for the cherry. Now that's America! Oysters are something that throw-down-your-guns, run-for-your-lives, kind of hippies eat. Mom used to put them in soup, and that wasn't bad. She had special crackers though, and I didn't see any mention of that here. What the hell good is an oyster without the special little round crackers!? I can't really think of a good ad campaign for oysters. Unless you can sell ugly by the bushel.

Posted by: goon at March 26, 2017 06:34 PM (EaQ6/)

459 CBD put up an open thread so we can talk about everything except dresses, y'all.

Posted by: bluebell at March 26, 2017 06:34 PM (sBOL1)

460 Okay I went with the Cruzan Aged - and I am glad I did.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 06:34 PM (HV1LS)

461 I haven't cooked a pork chop in six months that hasn't been tough. I always do thick cuts.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (koJdH)


If you've got some disposable income, look into sous-vide. Anova is the current winner in the immersion circulator wars.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 06:35 PM (8nWyX)

462 I'm not a huge raw oyster fan, although I'll eat fried ones with abandon. I'll eat fried chicken livers from country gas stations, too, though, so my culinary credentials are obviously impeccable and should be heeded and respected.

I was invited to a wedding near Morehead City where hundreds of oysters were steamed open on hot rocks beside a campfire. I remember being given a paper plate, a butterknife (iffy on that - might've been more specialized), and a bottle of beer.

Delicious.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 26, 2017 06:35 PM (/f1mm)

463 Sorry I didn't look at the "dress link", because man. And because Kentucky - North Carolina.

...but mostly Man.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T)


I don't mean to go all "Sam I Am" here, but I'm telling you, if you look at that dress, you'd castrate yourself just for the privilege of wearing it. Elegant, classy, yet sensual with see through sleeves and shoulders.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 26, 2017 06:36 PM (vRcUp)

464 JTB.
I think the one thing I miss most about that area is Wegmans. Great meat and seafood section and the wines were awesome!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2017 06:36 PM (0tfLf)

465 hogmartin- Thanks

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 06:38 PM (koJdH)

466 The corn "salsa" recipe is as follows:

(Serves Four)

...this is a condiment for your Mexican or Southwestern dish.

-Dice 1/2 medium Bell Pepper of choice into corn-sized pieces.

-Heat a cast-iron skillet to "Blast-Furnace" and turn-off heat. Add 1/2 package Frozen Corn, (8oz.) and wait for shit to get blazing and blackened.

-Add Bell Pepper.

-Shake Coriander onto blackened corn and softened Bell Pepper, to taste. (approx. 1/2 Tbsp.)

-Squeeze the juice of one Lime onto Delicious Concoction.

-Salt and Pepper to taste.

Sprinkle into taco/burrito/enchilada/salsa like you were going to Heaven tomorrow.

-Enjoy!

P.S.: I didn't call it "salsa" because without tomatoes, most people would not consider this sweetened delicacy a "salsa".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:42 PM (6gk0M)

467 Ben Had, We only cook thick pork chops too @ one-half to three quarter inch. Small amount of butter in skillet. Salt and pepper chops. Cover. Mid-way between low and medium. Turn often. Test for 160 degrees or cut and make sure pink is gone. Great brown crust. Cooked through. Guessing only maybe 8 minutes each side but turn often. Cook longer if necessary but do not overcook.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at March 26, 2017 06:43 PM (V+03K)

468 "It's like you live in my spare room or sumthin!!"
-Posted by: grammie winger at March 26, 2017 06:33 PM (dFi94)

I can see in your windows. Close the front-one, at least.

I guess I read a lot on the blog.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:44 PM (6gk0M)

469 Mrs JBT- Thank you. I may have been cooking them at too high a heat. I will give this a try and report back.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2017 06:49 PM (koJdH)

470 Elitist crap. Oysters are for 1%'ers, aren't they?! You want pleasure, real pleasure, then think about that good feeling that you get as you lick deep into the McD's small vanilla milkshake cup, diving for the cherry. Now that's America!

For Heaven's sakes, man, it's not going to bankrupt you to just try raw oysters for once in your life! Cold, slippery texture? Yes, but nothing quite like them with some lemon and that spicy red sauce. And if we're going to mix ideology with food (NTTAWWT) I would not recommend McD's anything. They are just another libtarded megacorporation. They are anything but America, and we shouldn't be funding them (if you, like me, are concerned with that sort of thing).

Although I'm impressed that you could make a description of eating McDonald's swill sound like pornography.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 06:49 PM (vRcUp)

471 Re: bacon wrapped scallops

A few years ago for Thanksgiving I served grilled venison backstrap (taken two days prior) surrounded by bacon wrapped scallops grilled on skewers, and all on a bed of seafood cornbread dressing. Shrimp, crab, and crawdads. A lot of work but a huge hit.

I think cooking the scallops in the oven on skewers in the oven would've turned out almost as good and been a lot less stressful.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 26, 2017 06:49 PM (/f1mm)

472 As "The Guy" who always announces "The Nood", I was asked if I had done that for the previous thread.

Now I have to Willow in my ignorance?

...For Shame.



NOOD!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 26, 2017 06:52 PM (6gk0M)

473 I can't really think of a good ad campaign for oysters. Unless you can sell ugly by the bushel.

Posted by: goon


Lena Dunham wearing a pearl necklace, saying: "Hey, you never know".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 06:54 PM (vRcUp)

474 #422, I came back from an event at Toledo Bend, Louisiana once with two fifty pound boxes of cooked crawfish from an event's leftovers, among many other things. I figured they would take up a lot less room in my fridge tailed and peeled.

Fuck, I peeled crawfish til my fingers bled. Whatever they pay those poor foreigners, they are welcome to it. They must be the equivalent of the little old black ladies with laser accurate fingers that worked the crab picking and packing lines of the Chespeake Bay area pre-WWII.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (YS6Xu)

475 It must be a thing. I just ordered several dozen, if a dozen too many. Shucked and slurped. My first time shucking. I... have to do that again. But it's so expensive, have to order them in.

I am adventurous, with food. Except some mom food. Where do they... never mind. Anyway. Glad to see someone else got in the mood. I also ordered a crab. It's the one thing I miss about living by the sea. Though I think having great steak, pork, and other meats is worth the price. I sort of come down on the side of red and white animal. Well, considering the prices of each, anyway.

Good show, Sport.

Posted by: Doom at March 26, 2017 06:57 PM (ChhNd)

476 Parsnips are wonderful. My favorite root veggie. Celery root is another seasoning veggie that is overlooked in the produce aisle.

Posted by: Uhmm at March 26, 2017 07:00 PM (6Ti7b)

477 They must be the equivalent of the little old black ladies with laser accurate fingers that worked the crab picking and packing lines of the Chespeake Bay area pre-WWII.
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 26, 2017 06:55 PM (YS6Xu)

Thus the suck ass crab cakes at the Boundary House; less than 100 miles up the coast from McClellanville, SC.

Posted by: Golfman at March 26, 2017 07:03 PM (48QDY)

478 The ostrich does lay a mighty big egg, but it's a tiny little nothing compared to the egg laid by the Atlanta Falcon.

Posted by: Tom Brady at March 26, 2017 07:22 PM (7buKX)

479 I loaded two 50lb bags of crawdads into the back of my pickup to deliver to a customer once. When I got there one bag had broken open. Took a while to round them all up, save the ones who made it away from the pavement to the grass.

Posted by: Javems at March 26, 2017 07:36 PM (yOqwj)

480 #477, you want good crab cakes, I recommend Stoney's Kingfisher in Solomons Island, Maryland.

Also, amazingly, a little place called Casey's Crab Company right out the south gate of Fort Meade, Maryland on the side of 198.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 26, 2017 07:58 PM (YS6Xu)

481 I shucked thousands of these things and discovered I was allergic just by handling them. Glad I had that excuse not to try them. Never did have any desire to. They look and feel like snot.

Posted by: Kaldar at March 26, 2017 08:41 PM (8Wsi4)

482 I found a good source for basic, simple recipes. This guy Larry Wolfe has a YooToob channel under the name TheWolfePit.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnJm8wC-ABOvOn2piAt2WYg

His cooking looks really good! He also does a lot of pretty entertaining reviews of pre-packaged processed meals, including the weird stuff you'll see on a store shelf and think, "What? Somebody put that in a can?".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at March 26, 2017 10:17 PM (0OG8D)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 03-26-2017


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Library of Skandia Recluse

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are hotties, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes melt. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which only go to show that wearing your PJs in the middle of the day is perhaps not a modern fad.


Pic Note

Skandia Recluse writes:

The Zane Grey books are book club editions and were published in the fifties, and I had read them all before reaching the sixth grade, usually in bed, late at night, under the covers, by flashlight. Probably why I am very nearsighted...You might notice the figure of Buddha on the top shelf and in the spirit of Mr. Dietrich (V for Vendetta) when asked "Are you Muslim?" replied, "No, I'm in television," I would reply to the question, "Are you Buddhist?" with "No, I am a recluse."


Today is International De-Lurk Day

As I announced last week, I want to turn today's book thread into what you might call a "lurkers' showcase" where all of you lurkers and lurkettes post a book review. That is, if you've enjoyed a book that you first heard about on the book thread, I think you can assume that you might know of a book or two that the rest of us would like to hear about. The value of the book thread is in the comments, where books are recommended, de-recommended, and generally discussed. So I hope many of you will be moved to post your reviews.


Prescience

Over on the MoronHorde group on GoodReads, a few months ago, we read The Camp of the Saints, a French novel from the 1970s which predicted, with uncanny accuracy, the social pathologies that are produced when a western country is inundated by a mass influx of unassimilated third-world immigrants. It was published, mostly forgotten, then became a best-seller in 2011 when the issues it raised became topical again.

So I came across another novel that is kind of like that, meaning, written long ago, forgotten, then rediscovered.

Because Trump:

The Twentieth Day of January, written by acclaimed British author Ted Allbeury and first published in 1980, tells of an incoming American president who is compromised by a sex scandal concocted by Russian spies...“When it was written, Carter was president, Reagan was about to come in…The bare bones [of the plot] are that an aspirant politician who was nowhere near being a serious contender for the presidency somehow through the manipulation of a strike gets into a position where he becomes a possible contender and keeps being helped undoubtedly with financial support, and then becomes president. And the Russians have compromising photographs of him.”

Although a work of fiction, fans of the book have been astonished by the way it seems to predict the rise of Trump and the allegations made against him recently.

Allbeury, an ex-intelligence officer during the Cold War, passed in 2005. It sounds like his professional life was perhaps a bit more exciting than he would have liked:

After his death, his friend and fellow writer Len Deighton recalled: “During the Cold War, Ted was running agents across the border that divided communist East Germany from the west. His luck ran out and the Russians left him nailed to a kitchen table in a farmhouse. Practised torturers, they made sure he had a chance to survive and take the story back to his fellow agents. The war never ended for him. His children were kidnapped and he pursued them to South America. Ted never told me what happened after that. I urged Ted to write his memoirs but he could not be persuaded. He said he’d signed an official document that prevented him doing so. Well, that’s our loss, along with Ted himself: a hero, patriot, family man, friend and outstanding writer.”

You know what other well-known author was a CIA field agent? William F. Buckley. It's probably safe to assume he incorporated his experiences working for the agency into his Blackford Oakes spy novels. I had always wanted Buckley to write an account of what he did during his time in the CIA, but perhaps he was bound by a non-disclosure agreement similar to Allbeury's. Or, maybe he was just an honorable man who didn't think it was proper to divulge secrets that had been entrusted to him.

The Twentieth Day of January is available on Kindle for seven and a quarter.

And Buckley's Blackford Oakes novels, such as Stained Glass and Marco Polo, If You Can, are also available on Kindle, each one for about eight.

Islamic Publishing

I have to give credit to Marcia Nelson, the author of Muslim Publishers Look to Build Bridges, Counter Cultural Misunderstanding for managing to restrain herself from using the word 'Islamophobia' until the 9th (out of 13) paragraph of her Publisher's Weekly piece:

Simon & Schuster’s Salaam Reads is the first imprint at a major publishing house to focus on Muslim characters and stories. Zareen Jaffery is the executive editor at the imprint, which launched last year. Her focus is on books that reflect the diversity within the Muslim community, but authors also explore issues that many Muslims face in the U.S. today. “Unfortunately Islamophobia has been going on for a long time, although it does feel like it’s been heightened today, with mosques burning down and verbal assaults increasing,” said Jaffery. “Feeling threatened tends to permeate the mind and writers respond to that in their work—maybe not directly, but it does show up.”

Well, if she doesn't like mosque burnings, perhaps she should tell her co-religionists to stop setting them on fire. Like that guy in Seattle.

Anyway:

Despite the nuances found in the Muslim publishing industry, one common goal between publishers is clear: to provide resources that accurately represent beliefs and experiences of distinct and numerous communities of Muslims in the U.S. and around the globe. Such books can “expand the base of knowledge” on Islam, according to Jaffery.

OK, fine. I'm all for cross-cultural understanding. I'm a bit of a text geek. That is, I'd like to try to understand texts as the authors intended them to be understood, rather than just making sh* up to fit my preconceived notions. Which, incidentally, is how liberal Christians read the Bible and what progressives do with the U.S. Constitution.

Anyway, with that being said, here is what I would like to see: a book by a 'moderate' Islamic scholar or scholars that refutes the teachings of the Wahabist/Salafist/jihadist school of Islam. The jihadists claim that the Quran commands them to establish an Islamic civilization, by force, if need be (and it always does). And if this involves murdering unbelievers, then the murders will have Allah's blessing, as it is all part of the greater jihad. So I would like the book to be something like: "The jihadis take verse such-and-such from the Quran and use it to justify their atrocities, but the correct interpretation of that verse is actually quite different." And then provide an exegetical explanation of what they think the correct interpretation should be. And they would need to do this point by point, with every Quranic verse and every quote from the Hadiths.

I would be genuinely interested in reading such a book. Because I'm wondering if it is possible to write such a book without pretty much destroying Islam as a religious system and replacing it with some modern, low-cal, secular, liberal substitute. Kind of like how the western progressives turn Christianity into a system of beliefs wherein "God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross" type of namby-pamby liberal Christianity, which, of course, isn't really Christianity at all. You really can't have Christianity without the cross. But can you have Islam without the sword?


A New Interstellar Hero?

Here's a new one (new to me, anyway) that came across my path this week, Starship Grifters, featuring Rex Nihilo, who's a "space-faring ne'er-do-well with more bravado than brains". It looks like a run read:

Rex Nihilo plies the known universe in a tireless quest for his own personal gain. But when he fleeces a wealthy weapons dealer in a high-stakes poker game, he ends up winning a worthless planet…and owing an outstanding debt more vast than space itself!

The only way for Rex to escape a lifetime of torture on the prison world Gulagatraz is to score a big payday by pulling off his biggest scam. But getting mixed up in the struggle between the tyrannical Malarchian Empire and the plucky rebels of the Revolting Front—and trying to double-cross them both—may be his biggest mistake. Luckily for Rex, his frustrated but faithful robot sidekick has the cyber-smarts to deal with buxom bounty hunters, pudgy princesses, overbearing overlords, and interstellar evangelists…while still keeping Rex’s martini glass filled.

Yeah, Rex sounds like a real Moron. And with a robot sidekick, plus buxom bounty hunters, what's not to like?

And if you want to wet your whistle with a cheapie, you can get the Kindle edition of a Rex Nihilo prequel, The Chicolini Incident: A Rex Nihilo Adventure (Starship Grifters Universe Book 0) for 99 cents.


Moron Recommendations

Perhaps the most famous of the many books by C.S. Lewis is The Screwtape Letters. Some years ago, they released an audiobook version, read by the British comedian John Cleese. I have it on cassette tape (that's how long ago I bought it) and I have to say that Cleese does a devilishly good job with the material.

The good news is that this audio version has made it to Youtube. Here is the playlist. You can even use one of those Youtube download apps to store it on your hard drive, if you prefer.

(h/t to TheJamesMadison for this recommendation last month)


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What I'm Reading

I finished Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle last week, the first one of his that I've read. And since I'm also watching the Amazon series, comparisons are inevitable. And this is where I find literary criticism to be extremely difficult. That is, I have some beefs with the book, but are the beefs the result of the author doing a lousy job, or because I have a lousy understanding of the book?

My main complaint is that TMitHC just seemed underdeveloped. Dick had an interesting idea, but he didn't seem to do much with it. For example, there is nothing in the book about any "resistance", nor is there the subplot involving Obergruppenführer John Smith and his family troubles. And I found the ending to be sort of unsatisfying. When I had finished it, my reaction was not so much "what a good story", but rather "yeah, so what?"

Because once you set a story in an alternative universe, you immediately invite all sorts of questions about the different universe, how did it get there and what's it all about? And why is such a setting necessary to tell the story?

These are some of the unanswered questions I had after finishing it.

But I liked Dick's discussions of Japanese culture and modes of thought. Also, his description of how the I Ching is used is so intricately detailed, I get the impression that his experience with it is first-hand, like this is something he seriously played around with at some time in his life. And it plays a way bigger part in the book than it does in the series.

All in all, I prefer the series. But that's maybe because I started watching it first and my expectations were set before I picked up the book.


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Moronette 'votermom' is putting together a list of moron authors over on the Goodreads site which is intended to be accessible to non-members. Here is the list she has compiled so far. Let her know if there's an author she's missing.

http://www.bookhorde.org/p/aoshq-authors.html

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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Posted by: Hrothgar at March 26, 2017 08:58 AM (gwPgz)

2 heh

Posted by: m at March 26, 2017 08:58 AM (Gqgs8)

3 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 08:58 AM (GPaiX)

4 SECOND!!!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 26, 2017 08:58 AM (vRcUp)

5 I sounded the alarm.

Posted by: m at March 26, 2017 08:59 AM (Gqgs8)

6 Thanks to the Book Thread, I ordered "Orphan X" which turns out to be something like Jack Reacher on steroids. I'm about 2/3's through the book and I've been neglecting chores to read it.

I'm also reading O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin "The Ionian Mission" and a second book from James Church in the Inspector O series. Inspector O is a NORK intelligence
operative and his activities and experiences give an interesting insight to a modern police state.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 26, 2017 08:59 AM (gwPgz)

7 >>>But I liked Dick's discussions of Japanese culture and modes of thought.

I like anything involving "dick" and Japan.

Posted by: George Takei at March 26, 2017 09:00 AM (vRcUp)

8 Wonderful to see your magnificent collection, Scandia Recluse.

Really, this could have been included in last night's movie thread as I see some "Top 10" candidates in there.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:01 AM (PhYV5)

9 Finished Napoleon's Infantry Handbook by Terry Crowdy, I have been deeply interested in Napoleoic warfare for 37 years but learned a lot on the minutiae of the daily regimen of the common soldiers.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 09:02 AM (GPaiX)

10 This week I continued with the Honor Harrington series. I read A Rising Thunder by David Weber. This is the seventeenth book in the series and the story still has my attention and is a joy to read. One of the best series that I have read.

Posted by: Zoltan at March 26, 2017 09:02 AM (mB70I)

11 OM, I sent an inexpertly photographed pic of one of my chess sets. It was our family's everyday set but pretty ornate, yet surprisingly sturdy. It has been shipped back and forth for decades and only one little piece of ivory is missing.

By comparison, my prized Indian ivory set was atomized in seconds by one very stout housecat.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:03 AM (PhYV5)

12 Oh, and Good morning, bibliophiliacs!

That tramp The Outside has been luring me away from my pretties, but this intoxicating Spring weather won’t last and I’ll be back inside escaping the blast furnace of Summer soon enough.

Got a rucksack full o’ books from the library. I’ve already mentioned "The Art of ARCHER", which is splendiferous. Lots on what goes into designing the characters and environments. I love that the animators dress up in full kit to take reference shots and get a feel for how their character would move in a tux, armor, evening gowns, or say, a bubble wrap space dress. Imagine basically cosplaying Archer at work. Oh, and I did not know that they included an anime Archer episode as an extra so now I’m furiously trying to find it.

"In the Mountains of Madness: the Life and Extraordinary Afterlife of H.P. Lovecraft" by W. Scott Poole looks to be as densely written and dripping with ichor as any of the master’s work. “Like his Poe-esque narrator, Lovecraft yearned to slip into the past even if the trip took him down a charnel house stair lit with a guttering candle.” Even though H.P. detested the modern world, Poole wants to examine him as a creature of his own place and time, and it looks like Poole will delve into the holy trinity of race, class, and gender. Still, thus far it’s been a very good read.

I judge by covers and I cannot lie, so I checked out two sciffy-looking ones by Becky Chambers, "The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet" and "A Closed and Common Orbit". They look fun.

And on the recommendation of a Horde reader I checked out Charles McCarry’s "Shelley’s Heart". Very timely tale about two political rivals (who are friends) and what happens when the defeated candidate learns that the votes were tampered with. What a writer. You’ll be nodding in agreement with many of his observations.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:04 AM (PhYV5)

13 As I announced last week, I want to turn today's chess thread into what you might call a "lurkers' showcase" where all of you lurkers and lurkettes post a book review.

Err, whut?

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:04 AM (HV1LS)

14 Good Morning all,

I'm about to leave for vacation, but wanted to give a thanks to all here. Both Dome City Blues and it's sequel are free right now on Kindle.

https://www.amazon.com/Dome-City-Blues-Jeff-Edwards-ebook/dp/B005DV9XFO

Read the 1st one previously and liked it. Will read the 2nd on vacation.

Enjoy.

Posted by: NJRob at March 26, 2017 09:07 AM (yxUNy)

15 I'm a heavy lurker, light commenter:
One of my favorite books, "I Can't Said the Ant".

Ok, full disclosure, I don't read books, I read information, lots & lots of information, and this blog. And that's all I need. & this stool, but that's it, that's all I need. & this thermos...

Posted by: Ruth Ruben at March 26, 2017 09:10 AM (RR9wF)

16 "Err, what?"

Shhhh.....he's on a roll.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 26, 2017 09:10 AM (J+eG2)

17 Ah....Blackford Oakes! Great stuff. Well written and good plots. Buckley was quite a talent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 09:10 AM (rF0hx)

18 Skandia, those are all Zane Grey books? Wow!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 09:11 AM (Om16U)

19 Yay Book Thread!

This week on my blog is a bunch of new books mostly by Morons.
Including the newest Amy Lynn.
Check it out when the Book Thread winds down.
Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 09:13 AM (Om16U)

20 Indeed, I read "The Man in the High Castle" years ago, and Dick really just sketched out an idea. I think with the novel, he had something else in mind, in terms of a criticism of modern aesthetics such as he found in California (a place of materialist hedonism run amuck).

Of course, the cable monkeys wanted to really flesh out the story, and make it "real", so it is really two different things.

Indeed, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is more of a philosophical discourse about empathy and what makes people really human, than about hunting down stray Andies as the story goes in "Blade Runner". Again, Hollywood took the germ of an idea from his book and made it "real".

Philip Dick was really weird, and his writing didn't always have mass appeal, but what he wrote and why he wrote wasn't the same as how his writing is portrayed in popular media entertainment. And really, I think that's where our popular culture has gone off the deep end.
Everything has to be literal. There is no subtlety of thought in anything. Hit everybody with a sledge hammer of violence, realism and graphic CGI.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 09:14 AM (S6Pax)

21 Buckley was quite a talent. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 09:10 AM (rF0hx)
=====

Christopher Buckley is as well. His writing hits that sweet spot where both sides' hypocrisy is skewered. Conventional lefty, of course, but funny writer.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 09:15 AM (MIKMs)

22 13 As I announced last week, I want to turn today's chess thread into what you might call a "lurkers' showcase" where all of you lurkers and lurkettes post a book review.

Err, whut?
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:04 AM (HV1LS)

Oregon's been two-timing us with that bimbo chess.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 26, 2017 09:15 AM (Om16U)

23 Niebuhr first thing in the morning. Nice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 26, 2017 09:17 AM (LTHVh)

24 Yikers! OM brings it.

Scandia's book nook has a familiar look about it.

Another superlative Book Thread.

I've read some of Buckley's Blackford Oakes books. Quite tame by comparison with the blood/gore/sex stuff currently in vogue. I also have a signed copy of 'Right Thinking'.

This week finished 'Pearl Harbor: FDR Leads the Nation Into War' by Steven M. Gillon.

The author focuses on the 24 hour period following the Pearl Harbor attack. He doesn't seem to be a Roosevelt worshipper, but spends a good deal of time opining on Roosevelt's physical infirmity and how that might have affected his attitude about other matters.

The book is well-written, and coherent, actually a pretty good read.
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Now halfway through 'Gallows Thief', Cornwell. I needed some entertaining fiction.

Posted by: Hillz at March 26, 2017 09:17 AM (ZO497)

25 Finished a classic old mystery novel by Cornell Woolrich: _The Bride Wore Black_. Woolrich was a pretty big name, once upon a time. He wrote the short story that inspired Hitchcock's _Rear Window_, among a whole bunch of other works.

This one is . . . actually kind of disappointing. The big payoff revelation depends on massive use of the Idiot Ball.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 26, 2017 09:18 AM (cZ3Ws)

26 Christopher Buckley is as well. His writing hits that sweet spot where both sides' hypocrisy is skewered. Conventional lefty, of course, but funny writer.

Posted by: mustbequantum


William Buckley was a brilliant guy, but also pretty weird. There are more than a few clues he had a drinking problem. I think it was hard to be his son, and Christopher has "rebelled" a lot since WFB died. Daddy issues, anyone?

But Chris Buckley is a very funny and talented writer. I think he sort of revolted because he didn't like being pigeonholed with his father's beliefs and political ideas.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 09:18 AM (S6Pax)

27 And since I'm also watching the Amazon series, comparisons are inevitable. 

The Man in the High Castle, season one was worth watching, as the entire 'what-if' scenario was unique. According to my wife, who read the book, much was Inserted by Amazon. Season one left on a discordant note. I was fine with it ending in that fashion.

I started watching Season Two and turned it off after 15 minutes. I just didn't care anymore. I notice that Amazon has returned to advertising it again, as apparently many people share my opinion.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 26, 2017 09:18 AM (ZFUt7)

28 I too preferred the series TMitHC to the book (this could be a thread in itself -- those rare instances of the movie/series being better than the book). It was an idea exercise, and a good one, but there was minimal character development.

The one neat thing the novel did was casually toss of references to genocide, germ warfare against an entire continent, and interplanetary travel (by the 60's) which really takes one aback.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:20 AM (PhYV5)

29 Wow, only 20 minutes late to the thread! Devouring Correia's Grimnoir series like sea salt and caramel popcorn.

And I want Jake Sullivan's Bullpup BAR.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at March 26, 2017 09:20 AM (IJX6l)

30 Still reading "Left Turns" by Tim Grossclose. It does leave me feeling a bit hopeless about Congress. Of course I was already hopeless about the media so at least I can't feel any more let down about them than I have since I was in 6th grade and discovered commies lie.

W/R/T "Camp of the Saints" I remember when it first came out. I ordered it while I was at home visiting for Christmas. I ordered it from some outfit called "The Institute for Western Values" which I remember because one of my sisters mocked it or me or both, probably the last. I read it way back when and was so horrified that I haven't been able to read it again since.

I finished the first Myron Bolitar novel and I felt like he kind of lost steam, or I did. The ending where they hatch the plan to catch the killer seemed overly contrived to me, not exactly the plot but the places where they were hatching the plan and the narrative would stop before the commercial, or maybe I mean at the end of the paragraph, but it was very much like in a movie or TV show where the hero says, "So here's what we're going to do" and then they break, and when they come back, it's time for the big thrilling capture-the-bad-guy moment.

Now I'm back to "We'll Always Have Parrots" by Donna Andrews and I really do enjoy her stuff. It's lighthearted and reasonably clean with enjoyable characters. It's clean enough that I was able to recommend it to a church friend for her teen daughter. It's not perfect, but there's no "on-screen" sex.

And I just started "The Weight of Glory" by CS Lewis. First time for this one, but I will very much look forward to listening to "The Screwtape Letters," so thanks for that.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 26, 2017 09:20 AM (NLPOe)

31 As I announced last week, I want to turn today's chess book thread into what you might call a "lurkers' showcase" where all of you lurkers and lurkettes post a book review. That is, if you've enjoyed a book that you first heard about on the book thread, I think you can assume that you might know of a book or two that the rest of us would like to hear about.

Long time lurker, first time poster. I really enjoyed the Communist Manifesto.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 26, 2017 09:20 AM (vRcUp)

32 Philip K Dick. I don't know that any of his stories, translated to the screen, are all that faithful to what he wrote.

He had some great ideas for stories but the execution was not all that. That could be because most accounts is batshit crazy. Or maybe just tuned into aliens. Or maybe God.

Here is a list of movies from wikipedia of movies made from works by Philip K Dick :

The Adjustment Bureau
Blade Runner
Minority Report
Next
Paycheck
A Scanner Darkly
Screamers
Total Recall


I left off a couple that no one has ever heard of.

I think there is one more that should be included, The Terminator. There is a short story by Dick named "The Second Variety" that is really about Terminators, but there is no time travel involved. Still, I am pretty sure that the story was an influence. I remember reading it and going "Terminators. You're talking about Terminators!"

Note that Dick's craziness was paranoid schizophrenia, and many of those stories are about someone with the ability to see the future or is unsure about his or her own place in the world (DADES is way more about that than about tracking down skinjobs.)

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:21 AM (HV1LS)

33 Somewhere on YouTube there's a video of an interview of Tim Powers about his friendship with Philip K. Dick back in the day. Best moment: the look of blank incomprehension in the college student interviewer's eyes when Powers mentions that Dick was a devout Christian and a fervent opponent of abortion. You can practically hear the circuit-breakers trip behind the kid's forehead.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 26, 2017 09:21 AM (cZ3Ws)

34 28, Eris, I haven't read "The Man in the High Castle" but to my knowledge, the only case in which the movie was absolutely better than the book was "Jaws." The book sucked dead bears.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 26, 2017 09:22 AM (NLPOe)

35 Although a work of fiction, fans of the book have been astonished by the way it seems to predict the rise of Trump and the allegations made against him recently.

Makes me wonder if this is where the Dems got their idea to portray Trump this way.

A similar thing happened with the octopus-on-an-airplane story. It turned out that someone had made the exact same accusation -- against a BBC executive or someone like that.

Posted by: Emmie at March 26, 2017 09:23 AM (xVuS6)

36 Good morning to all the Book Threadists. It's a cool, overcast day here. Perfect for following the book thread and reading while getting over a head cold.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 09:23 AM (V+03K)

37 The only thing I've read for the past 4 days is the back of medicine bottles. Worst period of sickness I've had in decades . Reconfirms my empathy for the morons that unfortunately experience this more frequently. Now that I'm better I have pleasure of being even further behind at work. Endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 09:24 AM (IDPbH)

38 OM...have you ever read "Prophet of Doom"? by Craig Winn?

Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2017 09:24 AM (x9c8r)

39 The problem with MitHC is that its 90% padding. The thread of interest (the origin and meaning of the films) is shoved to the side in favor of subplot after subplot that are obviously there just to drag it out.

The whole series is a tease and the viewer winds up with blueballs.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 26, 2017 09:24 AM (oVJmc)

40 Octopus? Mojitos all around!

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 26, 2017 09:24 AM (cZ3Ws)

41 I see Bossy Conservative posted while I was writing.

I was not peeking on his/her paper I swear!

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:25 AM (HV1LS)

42 Un-lurking for a minute: Re: Man in High Castle, PKD's books were often like that (but still worth reading), and the I Ching stuff appears in other stories; it was definitely an interest of his.

Legacy of Heorot by Niven/Pournelle/Barnes was an interesting one of late (in the midst of the sequel now). I'm on a re-reading -- well, re-listening -- kick with a book series I loved reading 20+ years ago by Philip J. Farmer, starting with To Your Scattered Bodies Go.

Posted by: mngiggle at March 26, 2017 09:25 AM (P3P3c)

43 34 28, Eris, I haven't read "The Man in the High Castle" but to my knowledge, the only case in which the movie was absolutely better than the book was "Jaws." The book sucked dead bears.
Posted by: Tonestaple at March 26, 2017 09:22 AM (NLPOe)
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Ha! That's the example I often use! Robert Shaw (no slouch as a writer) called it "a novel written by a committee, a piece of shit". Ouch! I wonder if they met on set.

The best Benchley is, of course, Robert Benchley.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:25 AM (PhYV5)

44 Whenever I'm confronted with the apparent reality of being an early-retired wonk with degrees in big stuff from a third-tier, farting around with old cars and pissant farming, my old Non-Disclosure Agreement gets me off the hook.

The Official Secrets Act has been the best barroom friend to the deep-thinking yet dull for a whole century now. I'd tell you, hun, but then I'd have to...

We should have a regular OSA thread, so us normal-seeming but exceptionally experienced guys next door can pretend to de-lurk and spill the beans. Ex Navy rating excepted of course: they've already seen it all, done it all, and told it all.

And that scar on my hand is not from a minor bicycle accident in the 60's.
The Russians nailed me to a table, see. Yeah that's the ticket.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 26, 2017 09:26 AM (H5rtT)

45 Rex Nihilo sounds like Harry Mudd

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 26, 2017 09:26 AM (pYtna)

46 title in search of a novel:

"the blighty blighters of blighty cove"

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 09:26 AM (WTSFk)

47 Good Sunday morning!

I'm reading Mark Kurlansky's "Salt" this week. Only a couple of chapters in so far, but it's looking interesting.

Posted by: April at March 26, 2017 09:27 AM (e8PP1)

48 I read "The Screwtape Letters" a year or two ago. A rare combination of entertaining and profound

Currently I'm a fourth of the way through "The Caves of Steel" by Isaac Asimov, which is set in the same continuity as his more famous "I, Robot," though it's not a direct sequel. As it was written in 1954, some of it is insightful, but most of it feels dated now. Still interesting to read how someone from that time speculated about the future.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at March 26, 2017 09:27 AM (Zd2ZF)

49 Yay Book Thread!

Life continues to be absolutely bonkers, but I'm still hanging on by my fingernails. Peter Pan this week in one class; Donne, Herbert, Bunyan, and Milton in the other; and catch-up week in the third. (Next week I'm giving the third class "Casey at the Bat" in honor of Opening Day!) Also working on a poster inspired by The Dream of the Rood to put in my CafePress store for Easter, along with some other (smaller) cross designs. Planning to do an actual painting of it to display at events, but that's going to have to wait until summer, as is finishing Loyal Valley: Diversion--I'm still working on that when I can, but like I said, life's bonkers.

Re: Screwtape Letters: more recently, Focus on the Family produced a version read by Andy Serkis. I'm dying to hear it. I'll bookmark that Cleese link, though--thanks, OM!

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at March 26, 2017 09:27 AM (Bbi5h)

50 I like the Zane Grey collection. I have read a couple of Zane Grey novels--Riders of the Purple Sage and Alcatraz. I really loved Alcatraz. I think I'll put more Grey on my list.

Posted by: April at March 26, 2017 09:28 AM (e8PP1)

51 (i figure it'll be about smugglers.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 09:28 AM (WTSFk)

52 Note that Dick's craziness was paranoid schizophrenia, and many of those stories are about someone with the ability to see the future or is unsure about his or her own place in the world (DADES is way more about that than about tracking down skinjobs.)

Posted by: blaster


PKD was not normal, and paranoid schizo was part of it. But take his books and writing for what they are. And indeed, H-wood takes a germ of an idea and then tortures it into something totally different. They want to make money, and that's how they see it. Of course they're right (face palm).

PKD's problems in life are rooted in his mental issues, which show up in his books a lot. He was crazy. Well, so was Edgar Allen Poe. And a lot of other writers.
I don't like Philip Dick's writing that much, but he was trying to communicate ideas through his writing. It sometimes makes you appreciate your own sanity, and sometimes makes you wonder just who is actually crazy.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 09:28 AM (S6Pax)

53 A lot of writers and artists have mental issues.
I think in some cases it's therapy, but in other cases it might have made them worse mentally.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at March 26, 2017 09:31 AM (Om16U)

54 Agree on Christopher Buckley. "Thank You for Smoking" is a hoot.

As I didn't get started on a new book for this thread, I'll go into the mists of time and recommend the original Myth Adventures series by the late Robert Aspirin. Wannabe thief on a dump of a world works for a wizard. Said wizard conjures a demon, then is assassinated, leaving shlub, Skeeve, confronting demon, Aahz.

"No relation."

That sets the tone for a rollicking run of adventure and laughter.

Sadly, Aspirin hit severe writer'so block after the 20th book, and the final two of the original 12 are shadows of what had gone before, but those first 10. ... Highly recommended.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 26, 2017 09:32 AM (83Ufd)

55 I really envy Skandia's hardback editions of Zane Grey. I'm slowly collecting hardcover versions of my favorite L'Amour books, the ones I re-read frequently.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 09:32 AM (V+03K)

56 @42 Oh man, Riverworld.

Back in HS had some friends who were big readers, we would offer each other books to read. All SciFi stuff. One guy was way ahead of the curve, read Niven way before I got into Niven. He read all the Riverworld there was, for whatever reason I never picked them up. A few years ago I wondered why and started. The first one, To Your Scattered Bodies Go, was pretty good, an interesting milieu and introduction to it.

The Fabulous Riverboat amped it up, but was kind of a mess. And I just couldn't go on with the series.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:32 AM (HV1LS)

57 ... the sequel in this putative hardy boys like series will be about smugglers out west:

"the lying liars of liar's gulch"

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 09:32 AM (WTSFk)

58 I read the The Channings by Mrs. Henry Wood to my parents, husband and 5 kids on a road trip to Yosemite 6 years ago. By the end, we were on pins and needles to find out who spoiled the surplice and what happened to Charles. Excellent.

Posted by: polish pilgrim at March 26, 2017 09:32 AM (YMwXk)

59 all told i have about 5 titles in that vein. now i just have to write the books! wish me luck...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 26, 2017 09:35 AM (WTSFk)

60 Wasn't the Confederacy of Dunces dude also mental . I think his mother got his book published after he committed suicide. Not to disparage the dead, but CoD blew monkey chunks.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 09:36 AM (IDPbH)

61
Oh boy! I was trying to make a sly liberry joke but Muldoon beat me to it with a better one. So I whipped up a scholarly couple of paragraphs about Zane Grey if anyone is interested and the thread goes in that direction.

Oregon Muse wrote : OK, fine. I'm all for cross-cultural understanding. I'm a bit of a text geek. That is, I'd like to try to understand texts as the authors intended them to be understood, rather than just making sh* up to fit my preconceived notions.

Which is a perfect seqway into the Senate testimony of Larry Solum's on reading the US Constitution as an 'originalist' (linked on instapundit).

I'm still reading 'Cowboy Detective' from last Sunday's thread and just finished the Chapter on the Coeur d'Alene Miner's strike of 1892 which made it clear to me that socialism has been a contentious issue far longer than just the anti war protests of the sixties.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 09:37 AM (+Cb51)

62 Looking time lurker, rare commenter.


Started reading first novel of The Expanse, Leviathan Wakes . Love the show, but the book is great. A solid read and seems to be good on the laws of space travel and the dynamics of living in space and how the differing societies evolved.

Posted by: Dandolo at March 26, 2017 09:38 AM (96scd)

63 @54 remember tearing through the Myth books, I can't remember how many of them I read. They were fun, the wordplay was clever.

Another series that was fun: Stainless Steel Rat. Crossing threads, that could have been good movie material.



Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:39 AM (HV1LS)

64 trump
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deport
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Posted by: Original Jake at March 26, 2017 09:40 AM (gp3sW)

65 Um... there are an awful lot of movies in that "library", but I do not see Disturbia, Transformers or Lawless. What's up with that sh*t?

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 26, 2017 09:42 AM (vRcUp)

66 13 As I announced last week, I want to turn today's chess thread into what you might call a "lurkers' showcase" where all of you lurkers and lurkettes post a book review.

Err, whut?

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:04 AM (HV1LS)


Aargh. How could that have happened. Apparently, the Russians have hacked the book thread.

Thank you, I fixed. Or, re-fixed it after one of the cobs fixed it first.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:43 AM (WPSd5)

67 OM...have you ever read "Prophet of Doom"? by Craig Winn?

Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2017 09:24 AM (x9c8r)


No, I haven't. This is one I haven't even heard of.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:43 AM (WPSd5)

68 Louis L'Amour> Zane Grey?



??

Posted by: Original Jake at March 26, 2017 09:43 AM (gp3sW)

69 68 Louis L'Amour> Zane Grey?



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Posted by: Original Jake at March 26, 2017 09:43 AM (gp3sW)

Which one had the better TV movies?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 09:45 AM (IDPbH)

70 OM, I sent an inexpertly photographed pic of one of my chess sets.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:03 AM (PhYV5)


Have not received it yet. Which e-mail address did you send it to?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:45 AM (WPSd5)

71 One neat thing the series shows, within the bounds of current human actor shapes of course, is how the different gravities and environments shape people.

In the most recent episode I watched, the Marine Draper and her superiors were called back to Earth to report on the disaster at Ganymede. Just to be dicks, the UN made sure there was a nice difficult walk from the landing pad to the Martian embassy so that straining under one full G reminded them who was in charge.

I remember in some other novel (by Joan D. Vinge maybe) that spacers didn't think as we planet-bound types do in Up-Down, Right-Left planes, but more 360-spherical. When one of them saw a staircase they were completely mystified as to its purpose.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:47 AM (PhYV5)

72 I read The Dogs of War by Frederick Forsyth. It is the source material for the movie of the same title but has significantly less "action" than the movie. The novel primarily consists of the machinations of the mercenary leader and the unscrupulous British businessman in setting up shell corporations to facilitate the coup in a god-forsaken little African country that happens to have a huge deposit of platinum. I give it a 3.5 out of 5: it is a moderately interesting time-capsule of the early 1970s.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 26, 2017 09:47 AM (5Yee7)

73 This has been a frustrating and enjoyable week for reading. I managed to get through the fall and winter without a sniffle, now I have one of those colds that feels like my head is full of wet cement and twice as dense. Reading new books is ill-advised. But I've been re-reading some long time favorites where I know half the words and needn't think. Louis L'Amour's "Flint" and "Ride The River", some of the Skylark sci-fi series, and a couple of the Thurlo's "Lee Nez" mysteries, and I started the first "Fu Manchu story. All fun stuff.

The frustrating part is I had just received several books that interest me: historical novels, a book providing context for the "Arabian Nights", and a book on the Renaissance throughout Europe, among others. No chance in hell those words were going to penetrate the mush in my head. But I will get to them.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 09:47 AM (V+03K)

74 Also mentioned in movie thread was Frederick Pohl's Heechee saga - there was a lot there that could be explored in movies/TV Series.

The definition of humanity when your consciousness is uploaded to the cloud, the future of medicine, and Gateway - that could be the basis of a great TV show, people get in the ship and it goes where it goes. Would be a platform for different directors and screenwriters, because they all go different places.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:48 AM (HV1LS)

75 Have not received it yet. Which e-mail address did you send it to?
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:45 AM (WPSd5)
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aos hq book thread geemail.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:48 AM (PhYV5)

76 I got halfway through The Screwtape Letters, set it down, and haven't gone back to it yet. It's not the kind of book to read while half asleep- for me, anyway- because of the need to translate/invert everything Screwtape says.

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 26, 2017 09:48 AM (26lkV)

77 No, I haven't. This is one I haven't even heard of.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:43 AM (WPSd5)

Kind of a biography of Mohammed derived from the quran, hadith and sura. Mo was pretty hard on scribes.

Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2017 09:50 AM (x9c8r)

78 Zane Grey
Whenever I mention liking Zane Grey, someone always brings up Louis L'Armour. Grey was a romantic, and his stories are morality tales about ordinary men and women, stalwart yeomen not of noble birth, confronting bad men and difficult circumstances. Grey's heroes are good honest people, who work hard. His stories reinforced the morality that my parents, and extended family, were teaching me; work hard, play fair, be a good boy scout.

Grey wrote about my ancestors who farmed in New York when the land west of the Hudson River was Indian territory. When New York colony became too crowded, my ancestors again moved west into the wilderness of Ohio and Michigan before they were even territories under the protection of a newly founded United States. Zane Grey wrote about those people, my people; fictional accounts of real events and real people.

I got my first pair of eyeglasses while in the fourth grade, and I don't remember reading Zane Grey with my new glasses. I probably did, maybe even into the fifth grade. I don't remember much about fifth grade, but sixth grade I read my first science fiction story and that changed everything.

Grey's stories resonate with me in a way that L'Armour does not. L'Armour wrote about outlaws and amoral, ambitious men. I admit to reading only a small sample of L'Armour's work. Just finished, "The Rider of Ruby Hills" (ASIN: B01HP8PICO). A lot of twists and turns, and a long list of characters to keep straight. It is only the second or third L'Armour book that I've even started. In the wiki biography of L'Armour they mention 'Social Darwinism', you should read about that also.

You should read the wiki biography of both men, and while you are there, Jack London, and Edgar Allen Poe. I enjoyed London's "White Fang", "Call of the Wild", his tales of the north, and his pacific island adventure stories but I did not know anything about the man, Jack London. His wiki biography was a surprise to me.

When I go into an area that Zane Grey wrote about, I feel it. Northern Arizona, and upstate New York, especially. It feels like home to me, until I talk with the people who live there, and then I understand why my ancestors kept moving west.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 09:50 AM (+Cb51)

79 Longtime lurker here. My book review: Tier One by Brian Andrews and Jeffrey Wilson. A veteran Navy SEAL is recruited into a black ops unit that answers only to the president, in order to take down a terrorist organization funded by a seemingly conciliatory Iran.

The action is fast paced and believable. The characters are well drawn and interesting. The authors seem to know their stuff when it comes to military jargon and more importantly, the way actual warriors talk. Recommended for fans of military adventure fiction.

Posted by: LordDilly at March 26, 2017 09:52 AM (pPSjT)

80 Where's your crown, Rex Nihilo?

Posted by: Metallica at March 26, 2017 09:52 AM (NBHj5)

81 aos hq book thread geemail.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:48 AM (PhYV5)


Nope, don't see it. Weird. Try resending it to my OregonMuse yahoo e-mail addy.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:53 AM (WPSd5)

82 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 26, 2017 09:47 AM (5Yee7)

Didn't read the source book but I love that movie. If you want to read a book on what mercenary work may look like in the future I recommend The Profession by Steven Pressfield.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 26, 2017 09:53 AM (IDPbH)

83 PKD's a great high concept type of author, which is why Hollywood likes the "hook" behind his writings.

And why they mostly use his short stories for movies, where they can spin off a Hollywood version of the central high concept.

But, PKD's best novels like "UBIK" or "The Three Stigmata of Eldritch Palmer" or "The Martian Time-Slip" are almost unfilmable due to the constant shifting of reality and identity...

Or so I thought, until-

I started watching the series "Legion" on FX.


It is very much a PKD inspired superhero story, where reality is constantly shifting and things and identities may not be what they seem.

Probably, the best way to handle PKD's best books would be through a limited series,

where you have the time to stretch out a bit in your concept and plot line to allow people to catch up.


So, far for a PKD-inspired series, they've kept things lean and mean with almost zero filler, but still have given the crazy full reign.

I'd love to see "UBIK" for instance, given this treatment.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 26, 2017 09:53 AM (9q7Dl)

84 So this pulp sci-fi novel has "buxom bounty hunters" in it but when you go to amazon to see the cover art all you get is some dude and a robot.
That is not how you do pulp cover art.

Posted by: DM at March 26, 2017 09:54 AM (garNZ)

85 Kind of a biography of Mohammed derived from the quran, hadith and sura. Mo was pretty hard on scribes.
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2017 09:50 AM (x9c8r)


Thank you, I may have to look into this one.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:54 AM (WPSd5)

86 There's been very little writing this week, because I'm getting over a cold. On the reading front, I got through Charlotte Bronte's Villette, which is a hugely depressing book. Oh, and, half the dialogue is in French. I only retained some of my high school French, so I had to run for the French/English dictionary every few lines. Not very conducive to smooth reading.

I also started Georgette Heyer's The Toll Gate, because, well, it's Heyer. It's hard to believe she was writing in the early 1900s; her books have a very timeless feel to them.

Xenophon's Art of Horsemanship was also on the list for this week. I only got a few pages into it, but it's fun to see how ideas from 2000 years ago can be applied to today. A horse is a horse is a horse, I guess, and what makes a good horse hasn't changed much.

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 26, 2017 09:54 AM (26lkV)

87 Lurker here delurking for a moment...

*puts on a reasonably laundered pair of delurking pants*...

I'd like to recommend Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. It's got a little bit of everything: time travel, ghosts, electric monks, and dodo birds. It's also a good intro into the world of Douglas Adams, which means its packed with hilarious British dry wit.

Posted by: 144 at March 26, 2017 09:54 AM (21dSF)

88 For those interested in the classics of Greece and Rome, I learned that some of the Loeb Classical Library is being produced specifically for e-readers. And they are inexpensive: a buck or two. These are the editions published in the 1920 that are still popular and are considered standard translations. Each book has the translated text, the original Greek or Latin, and a third section of the original language opposite the translation.

At the moment, they offer Appolonius's Argonautica and three volumes of Appian's Roman History. I believe there are more to come.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 09:57 AM (V+03K)

89 L'Amour would probably make better movies because more action.

Grey would be more like Josey Wales.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 09:58 AM (+Cb51)

90 The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam.

Posted by: Sharia LaBeouf at March 26, 2017 09:59 AM (vRcUp)

91 The Tragedy of American Compassion by Marvin Olasky is a great read for anyone who wants to see what charity in America looked like before the government got involved and began building the welfare state that we live under today. Olasky discusses the ways our society has dealt with poverty from colonial times up to the 1980s, and he does a great job of showing how government involvement has generally been a disaster - in terms of effectiveness in combatting poverty and in terms of the detrimental moral effects of people generally taking a step back from solving real problems in their communities because "it's the government's job". The book is well researched and includes tons of specific examples and anecdotes, so its the first book I point people to when they say we need a strong social safety net.
/goes back to lurking/

Posted by: NotGoodWithNames at March 26, 2017 09:59 AM (8qHlc)

92 Good morning, Horde. I picked up a few history books over the weekend from a local used book seller: "Bloody Crimes: The Chase for Jefferson Davis" by James Swanson; "The Dawn's Early Light" by Walter Lord, about the Washington & Baltimore campaign in the War of 1812; "Louisbourg: Key to A Continent" by Fairfax Downey, about the sieges of Louisbourg during the French & Indian Wars; "A Higher Call" by Adam Makos, about a Luftwaffe fighter that escorts a crippled B-17 to safety; and "Operation Mincemeat" by Ben Macintyre, about 'the man who never was' deception in WWII. And I also plan on getting "Death Before Glory" by Martin Howard, about the Napoleon campaigns in the Caribbean before my B&N coupon expires today.

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 10:01 AM (ANIFC)

93 What to get/recommend for kids to read seems to come up around here from time to time and for some reason a title from the old days popped into my head.

I wasn't even sure if it was real or not so I looked on Amazon and there it is.

Anyway, I remember reading and enjoying this one when I was a kid.

I think the ending made it stick in my head all these years later.

The Ghost in the Noonday Sun

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 26, 2017 10:03 AM (r/lvo)

94 Sick used iching. To write man in the high castle. The plot points where decided by lot. Which is why it seems kind of pointless.

That's kind of interesting.

Posted by: Simplemind at March 26, 2017 10:05 AM (ZuGkg)

95 the detrimental moral effects of people generally taking a step back from solving real problems in their communities because "it's the government's job".Posted by: NotGoodWithNames at March 26, 2017 09:59 AM (8qHlc)

That's something I've been thinking a lot about. And, on the other side of that equation, the detrimental effects of receiving aid from the government rather than from community organizations.

I think when people are receiving aid from neighbors and local organizations, there is more shame involved. That is not a bad thing--my theory is that the shame would prompt a person to try to overcome as quickly as possible and not be a burden on others.

Posted by: April at March 26, 2017 10:06 AM (e8PP1)

96 73, JTB, don't tease. What's the name of the book providing context for the Arabian Nights? That was one of my faves as a kid.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 26, 2017 10:10 AM (NLPOe)

97 Because once you set a story in an alternative universe, you immediately
invite all sorts of questions about the different universe, how did it
get there and what's it all about? And why is such a setting necessary
to tell the story?


PKD can be a little tricky sometimes. I think in this case you did miss what he was up to--a rumination on the nature of reality (the key being the novel-within-a-novel). In which case the fact of the alternate timeline was more central than its details, which the author could be a touch light with anyway.

Moving on: Last summer in this thread I saw recommended Top Dog, by Jerry Jay Carroll, which was on sale on Amazon at that time, and downloaded it to read. Many months later I finally got around to it this past week during doctor visit (for myself now, as it goes). It's a twist on the usual portal fantasy whereupon our protagonist, a rather sharkish Wall Street type, finds himself plopped into another world's battle between good and evil. The twist here being, instead of the usual heroic archetype, he finds himself in the form of a remarkably large dog...the focus is more on the contrast between the protagonist's old life and mindset and the expectations of his new surroundings. It's about character much more than setting as a result. I rather enjoyed it personally.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, at Provisional Basestar at March 26, 2017 10:11 AM (66CWr)

98 Wifey and I have Legion as one of the few shows we watch (right now that list consists of Legion, FaceOff, and Major Crimes).

Saying Legion is PKD inspired? I can see it, I guess. Influenced certainly, but no direct link into source material that I am aware of (but that doesn't mean much).

Watching Legion I think a few things: First, they can't keep up this level of production value, it has to be dreadfully expensive. Second, there is a lot of WTF in it - and they are plenty okay with letting something left hanging in an episode go until the episode after next to get resolved or even explained. They are as unconstrained by time boundaries in the presentation as reality is unconstrained in the story, with episodes of an hour-ish. Oh, and only 8 episodes in the season! They are certainly taking risks and breaking TV show protocols - I hope it is successful, but it seems like it might be more suited for an HBO or Netflix or Amazon than a basic cable channel. I think that binge watching it might be a better way to consume it than waiting each week - but I may be wrong about that. Back in the day I was travelling a lot, so I got 24 on DVD from netflix and would binge watch it, and the series did not work that way. Too much adrenaline! It wore you out. And you saw inconsistencies in the story line that you might have forgotten about if episodes were 2 or 3 weeks apart, but if you just saw it a couple of hours ago....

But I digress. I like Legion, I don't know how much mass market appeal it will pick up, it's certainly different from other Marvel Universe stuff. I read there will be a season 2. I hope that the suits don't enforce regular TV protocols onto it....

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 10:11 AM (HV1LS)

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:13 AM (0hI48)

100 90 The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam.
Posted by: Sharia LaBeouf at March 26, 2017 09:59 AM (vRcUp)

___

Speaking of such, story on Drudge about a couple in Atlanta who want to name their daughter Allah. That is give Allah as her last name. The state said, uhm, fuck that, a last name has to be a parent's last name. No birth certificate for you!!

Of course the ACLU is suing.

Here's the best part....one of the "hardships" the ACLU is claiming is that the family had to cancel a trip to Mexico because they can't get a passport for her. And the other hardship, they can't collect SNAP or Medicaid for the girl.

So they have enough money to go to Mexico for a fun filled vacation, while needing Medicaid and SNAP.

America in 2017 ladies and Gentlemen.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 26, 2017 10:14 AM (vsYKI)

101 Read "The Dreamers" from Isak Dinesen's Seven Gothic Tales. Lots of stories within stories as the narrator is trying to track down this hawt piece of trim who mysteriously disappeared and has this cryptic jooooo associate that the lovelorn shnook can't figure out. On the trip he encounters a couple other cock hounds who seem to be looking for the same tease. They ultimately find her on a snowy mountain in a perils of Pauline scene along with her swarthy accomplice. Turns out she was a former opera singer who was renowned until she lost her voice in a fire. Since her identity as a performer became her persona, she decided to live multiple lives as different entities and the three hounds were her audience. It was a well told tale.

In "The Commodore" by Patrick O'Brian, Aubrey and Maturin are wrapping things up at home before setting off on a major undertaking against slave states.

In Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire John Cantacuzene has just stepped down in favor of John Palaelogus; Cantacuzene never really wanted the job but was forced into it as the only person who could hold the shit show together after the massive prior fuckups. Unfortunately Gibbon can be so fucking confusing in his narration, and has such an anti Christian bias, that I have to continually consult John Julius Norwich's excellent Byzantium: The Decline and Fall to figure out just WTF really happened.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2017 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

102 I think when people are receiving aid from neighbors
and local organizations, there is more shame involved. That is not a
bad thing--my theory is that the shame would prompt a person to try to
overcome as quickly as possible and not be a burden on others.

Posted by: April at March 26, 2017 10:06 AM (e8PP1)

Agreed...but in addition to shame I think there is the personal connection that signals quite vehemently that, "We care, and we are watching you."

It's not an anonymous drone behind a glass-enclosed counter: It's your neighbor, or at least someone with whom you share some commonalities. Disappointing him is a much bigger deal than disappointing a faceless government bureaucrat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2017 10:14 AM (rF0hx)

103 Another series that was fun: Stainless Steel Rat. Crossing threads, that could have been good movie material.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 09:39 AM (HV1LS)


Harry Harrison said in an interview that he made a good sideline out of selling the movie rights to The Stainless Steel Rat. He'd sell the rights, they'd expire, and he'd sell them again.

Man had the soul of an editor, I think.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:15 AM (0hI48)

104 If someone has a strong stomach and is not prone to nightmares, my recommended three books right now would be (chrono order):

Canticle for Leibowitz
Camp of the Saints
Fallen Angels

How is that for a trifecta of horror?

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 10:15 AM (MIKMs)

105 re: Camp of the Saints. I haven't read it yet but I ordered it from Amazon...can't get it anywhere else. Anyway, it is beyond interesting to read AoSHQ members highly recommend a book and then notice that the top five most recent Amazon reviews utterly denounce it as bigoted trash.

I have a good feeling about this book.

Posted by: squeakywheel at March 26, 2017 10:21 AM (dzorZ)

106 78 ... Skandia, I wasn't aware that Grey wrote about the New York frontier and similar. I've only read a few of his westerns. Thanks for mentioning it. I'll search out his other books.

Bringing up Grey or L"Amour when the other is mentioned is inevitable as they are both among the best known 'western' writers for most folks.

I've read about L'Amour's background. Do you know of a good biography for Zane Grey?

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 10:22 AM (V+03K)

107 Speaking of such, story on Drudge about a couple in Atlanta who want to name their daughter Allah. That is give Allah as her last name. The state said, uhm, fuck that, a last name has to be a parent's last name. No birth certificate for you!!

That sounds divisive.

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 26, 2017 10:23 AM (vRcUp)

108 Started reading Neil Gaiman for the first time. Finished The Graveyard Book and am now on Neverwhere.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 26, 2017 10:24 AM (ppaKI)

109 I would love if Niven went back and rewrote Fallen Angels as a more serious work. It was basically a piece of fan service and spent more time on that than on the story, I thought.

Canticle was put together from multiple novellas, wasn't it? The beginning works better than the end, but you have to wonder how much influence Foundation and Canticle had on each other. But the time period they were written was the Cold War and concern about nuclear armageddon leading to a dark ages, and a priestly order preserving scientific knowledge during the fall was a thing then, I guess.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 10:24 AM (HV1LS)

110 Do you know of a good biography for Zane Grey?

--

No, I don't. Just what I've picked up off the 'net, here and there.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:25 AM (+Cb51)

111 You know what other well-known author was a CIA field agent? William F. Buckley.

I didn't know that. So if he'd socked that queer Gore Vidal in his god damn face he really would have stayed plastered.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 26, 2017 10:25 AM (0mRoj)

112 I'm only a semi-lurker but here is a quickie review of a book. When our host asks for something, we really ought to jump through hoops- OM does a fantastic amount of work on the Book Thread every week.

The Salarian Desert Game by JA MacLachlan

Book 2 in a a YA series, The Salarian Desert Game features Kia, a gifted translator who gets bound up in an interstellar intrigue, steals an identity of a dead girl, and gets dumped in a deadly desert with other fifteen year old girls. The girls' goal is to bond together in an ancient tradition; Kia's goal is to keep them alive with deadly alien scorpions, snakes, and humans out for their blood.

Clean writing with a minimum of PC.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at March 26, 2017 10:25 AM (L0bUn)

113 One genre I enjoy is historical fiction. Last week I finished the first of 3 books from the Revolutionary War, by William Forstchen and Newt Gingrich, To Try Men's Souls. The story is about the Battle of Trenton and events leading up to it including the crossing of the Delaware River on Christmas Eve. Events are shown through 3 main characters, George Washington, Thomas Paine (who apparently actually marched with the Army) and a young New Jersey militiaman. While fictionalized, it brought to me much more understanding of the events, the suffering of the men that winter (the few who remained in the army), their sheer guts and perseverance and the absolute miracle of the victory at Trenton. I am looking forward to the next book Valley Forge.

Posted by: George V at March 26, 2017 10:26 AM (LUHWu)

114 PKD actually wrote a screenplay for "Ubik", although of course it was never made. He had an interesting idea as far as production went; it was that the look of the film (or maybe just the end credits) would become more and more antiquated as the movie went on, until at the very end the film would appear to get stuck in the projector and burn up.

As far as books go, I've been mentioning David Karp's novel "One" to anyone who might be interested. Thought it was kind of unnerving because the dystopia it depicts seems more realistic in a way than the ones in "1984" and "Brave New World"-- a Benevolent State run by social workers and bureaucrats who "only want to he'p yew". Individualism is considered a mental illness (probably somewhere on the autism spectrum), and even most of the individualists themselves want to be "cured". It reminded me of C. S. Lewis' remark about a tyranny set up for the good of its subjects...

Posted by: Golem14 at March 26, 2017 10:26 AM (TuG4U)

115 Fallen Angels, definitely. I brought this one up on a science fiction discussion at work and while the majority nodded and said yup, very prescient, it was interesting that the naysayers really hate it. Like, it's Reagan-era anti-science (!) Cold War paranoia!!!11!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 10:27 AM (PhYV5)

116 Since it's de-lurk day, I'll chime in! I read the book thread every week and especially love the pictures of moron libraries. My guilty reading pleasure of late has been Patricia Wentworth. Yes, most of the books are bonbons, definitely "cozy" mysteries--no danger that anything really bad will happen to the main characters--but the language is genuine fine British English, and the plots move right along. I especially like the books written in the 1930s and during WWII. The give a flavor of the reality of life in England at that time. Many of these now available on Kindle.

Posted by: Emily at March 26, 2017 10:27 AM (mr+ga)

117 Finished "Atlas Shrugged" a week or so ago.
I heard too much about it to ignore its monstrous presence on my bookshelf any longer.
Loved it, but it was a chore to read. There were so many instances where Rand is pouring her (philosophical) heart
out as an author, only to leave the actual character in the book blathering along with plenty of time to sit, ponder, and blather yet the book's theme is (arguably) about actual accomplishments rather than blather.
So, it is highly recommended as a guide to understanding even today's current events, because the themes and political double-speak on display erect a timeless portrayal of how different types of humans ( personalities..not ethnicities, specifically) fare in different socioeconomic situations.
The actions and reactions borne from different types of thinking and the suubsequent outcomes provide a glimpse into the motivations behind these characters and how their successes and failures could be tracked accordingly.
Of course, "failure" and "success" are objective by certain worldly standards whereas others are more subjective. Rand does a thorough job of explaining to the rational mind the pitfalls of being irrational.

So, since then, needing a lighter note I have found a hardback "Adventures of Tom Sawyer"
and also picked up "The Art of the Deal".
I've read the first 50 or so pages of each of these, and having more fun with the Sawyer kid.
Twain commands the heart with laughter.
Society benefiits society, but I find it's the individuals that benefit individuals best.


Happy Reading, Morons!!

Posted by: Orange Mule at March 26, 2017 10:29 AM (E6q3l)

118 No, I don't. Just what I've picked up off the 'net, here and there.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:25 AM (+Cb51)

Zane Grey was descended from Ebenezer Zane (see Zanesville Oh.) frontiersman and builder of the National Road.....prolly influenced some of his work.

Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2017 10:30 AM (x9c8r)

119 The Frontier Trilogy by Zane Grey (Haycyon Classics)
ASIN: B0049P23ES

$1.99 on the kindle.

Life on the Ohio frontier (Lewis Wetzel is mentioned. He was a famous frontier man, Indian fighter.)

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:30 AM (+Cb51)

120 81 aos hq book thread geemail.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 09:48 AM (PhYV5)

Nope, don't see it. Weird. Try resending it to my OregonMuse yahoo e-mail addy.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 09:53 AM (WPSd5)


Both e-mails have arrived, thank you. Looks like a nice chess set.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:30 AM (WPSd5)

121 De-lurk? That's what she said.

Posted by: Fewenuff at March 26, 2017 10:31 AM (gHE26)

122 De-lurking as ordered
Skandia: chargeless Kindle! Me too. Hilarious
Anyway currently reading The Number of the Beast by Heinlein. Ugh dialogue in beginning is awful. Anyone know if this book gets better? I loved Stranger many years ago. Maybe he's always been meh and now I see it. Also reading Dante as I feel it is a bucket list duty and I am nearing half century. (Sadz)
Carry on

Posted by: (not) Lurking Queen at March 26, 2017 10:31 AM (5oWLH)

123 Obviously the e-mails went through the Kremlin first.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 10:32 AM (PhYV5)

124 I've been on a kick of reading the books from which movies were based.

So far and in no particular order (since I really don't remember)

True Grit (awesome)
Right Stuff (double plus awesome)
Starship troopers (always heard it was good)
Master and Commander
The Haunting
2001: A space odyssey
We were soldiers once and young
Blackhawk down
Band of Brothers
I, Claudius
1984

I'm wrapping up 2001. Thinking about Full Metal Jacket next.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 26, 2017 10:32 AM (xJxz7)

125 On Librivox I ran across a novel that was full of bad writing. I'm usually not particular, but this was awful. It was set during the Baron's War, but I think that was only so there could be the threat of the female characters being sent to a convent if they didn't do as their parents wanted (or in one case, just for their parents to save money). I kept forgetting it was set so far in the past because *nothing* else the character said, thought, or did was consistent with the supposed setting.

It was meant to be a Gothic mystery but, when I skipped ahead to the last chapter, it turned out that I had to go *back* about four chapters for the big reveal of the mystery (yes, there were four or five chapters left to go after the mystery was solved so I decided I would find something different to listen to). My guess is that books like this are what gave Victorian novels such a bad name.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 26, 2017 10:33 AM (sEDyY)

126 Life on the Ohio frontier (Lewis Wetzel is mentioned. He was a famous frontier man, Indian fighter colonialist, white supremacist, exploiter, and ruthless oppressor.)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:30 AM (+Cb51)
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Adjusted for political correctness.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:33 AM (WPSd5)

127 @122 I read Number of the Beast and really liked it...when I was in High School. I don't know how well it has aged. Maybe better than I have, I don't know.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 10:33 AM (HV1LS)

128 Regarding Man in the High Castle, I know some people really dig that alternate history stuff, but it appeals to me not at all. I only took a chance on the Amazon series because some of their other dramas are so well done.

By the time the first series concluded, I decided I hated it. I thought it was over, that the series was done, but apparently not. I cannot imagine wanting to read the damn book, and I'm surely not going to bother with the second series.

I really would like to know the point. This alternate reality nonsense. I really would. I don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:33 AM (Pz4pT)

129 Just thinking about Starship Troopers and Full Metal Jacket.

I wrote yesterday that FMJ was like 2 movies tangentially related.

ST (the book) is almost exactly like that. There is the part about basic training, and there is the part about warfare. Different stories.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 10:35 AM (HV1LS)

130 Recently read the Lies of Locke Lamora.

Highly recommended for light fantasy.

About to read Cryptonomicon after it's been sitting on my kindle forever.

Posted by: NJRob at March 26, 2017 10:35 AM (u73cy)

131 Obviously the e-mails went through the Kremlin first.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 10:32 AM (PhYV5)
I was thinking NSA, but eh, same thing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:36 AM (WPSd5)

132 OM...have you ever read "Prophet of Doom"? by Craig Winn?
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2017 09:24 AM
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Heh. Just checked that out on Amazon. The reviews are fairly split and "surprise, surprise!" the vast majority of the one-star reviews come from those named Mohammed, Ahmed, Sayed, etc.

So naturally, I will purchase it.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 26, 2017 10:36 AM (HiDrR)

133 But the time period they were written was the Cold
War and concern about nuclear armageddon leading to a dark ages, and a
priestly order preserving scientific knowledge during the fall was a
thing then, I guess. Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 10:24 AM (HV1LS)
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How much time do we as morons discuss preps to keep knowledge alive? A lot.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 10:36 AM (MIKMs)

134 Yikes - nails to a table and children kidnapped? Not the sexy James Bond spy life for him!

Another good book written by a Mossad spy is "By Way of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky. He even includes stories about earlier Mossad shenanigans that he had to study as par of his training.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 10:36 AM (NOIQH)

135 I really would like to know the point. This alternate reality nonsense. I really would. I don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:33 AM (Pz4pT)


I kind of don't get the aversion. Fiction is already, by definition, Shit That Didn't Happen. It's all alternate reality. There never was a Sherlock Holmes or Huckleberry Finn, or whatever.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:38 AM (8nWyX)

136 Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 26, 2017 10:32 AM (xJxz7)
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Claudius the God.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 10:39 AM (MIKMs)

137 Claudius the God.
Posted by: mustbequantum

Ooo yes. I should have mentioned I read the pair. Thanks, though.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 26, 2017 10:40 AM (xJxz7)

138 Like, it's Reagan-era anti-science (!) Cold War paranoia!!!11!

Okay, this makes me wonder how said naysayers would react to Anna to the Infinite Power. It is *super* dated on the tech side--it was already showing its age when I read it in HS--but the basic questions about personhood and biological determinism are still completely relevant, maybe even more so now than when it was written.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at March 26, 2017 10:40 AM (Bbi5h)

139 Finished "Forbidden Thoughts", a collection of short stories and one non-fiction that are expressly non-PC. It's uneven as many short story collections are, but some are very good. I'll be looking for other works by A.M. Freeman and L. Jagi Lamplighter. I knew of Brad Torgerson but haven't read anything else he's written (recommendations?). I probably should have read "If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love" before reading the hamburger parody. "World Ablaze" by Jane Lebak is probably my favorite.

Now reading "What Jesus Saw from the Cross" by Antonin Sertillanges for Lent. Pretty good so far.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at March 26, 2017 10:41 AM (THS4q)

140 The Expanse, Leviathan Wakes . Love the show, but the book is great ... differing societies evolved.

A lot of fun. The economics make no sense. Someone has to tell the show audio guys to quit putting rocket exhaust noise in space.

Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2017 10:41 AM (FhXTo)

141 >>ST (the book) is almost exactly like that. There is the part about
basic training, and there is the part about warfare. Different stories.


I read Starship Troopers right after Lone Survivor, which also 1/2 about Navy SEAL training and 1/2 about operation red wing. Also took some of the fun out of ST because holy sh#t, BUD/S training is intense.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

142
@126 Oregon Muse

So who do you feel about the movie "The Last of the Mohicans?" the newer version.

Or should I ask how that movie is reviews by the progressive leftists.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:43 AM (+Cb51)

143 I really would like to know the point. This alternate reality nonsense. I really would. I don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:33 AM (Pz4pT)

I kind of don't get the aversion. Fiction is already, by definition, Shit That Didn't Happen. It's all alternate reality. There never was a Sherlock Holmes or Huckleberry Finn, or whatever.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:38 AM (8nWyX)


Which is easier for me to swallow. You (the author) invent a guy, give him a background, a conflict, motivations, and a set of tasks to complete.

I can buy into that. But when I have to work it out in my head, that this REAL person, and these real events, somehow went another way? My brain doesn't run that way, so it takes a monumental step for me to switch tracks and try to go with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:43 AM (Pz4pT)

144 I read Thomas Malthus' An Inquiry on the Nature and progress of Rent, which is actually about "profit" and specifically about "profit from agriculture" but also addresses a lot of the current crop of Socialists-in-government theories that profit is bad.

It is densely written, and written in 1810 so it is one of those books that needs to be chewed and re-read. On the plus side it is a 75 page booklet and is free from Gutenberg

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4336

I am now reading the novel Talents, Inc. by Murray Leinster. A planet is facing being conquered by a bloody handed interstellar empire, and as a last gesture the government plans to take up the fleet to fight a hopeless battle believing that this will slake the blood lust of the conquerors. However, using the talents of a group of psionic oddballs, they win the space battle and spend the rest of the book trying to figure out how to surrender to their conquerors now that they have made them vengeful in defeat.
All of this while the actual planets that are under the heel of the conquerors start rebelling

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:45 AM (0hI48)

145 About to read Cryptonomicon after it's been sitting on my kindle forever.
Posted by: NJRob at March 26, 2017 10:35 AM (u73cy)


Do keep us updated as you read it. That one's a little polarizing. Most people tend to really like it, but some people find the narrative style off-putting and it's monstrously dense - there's an entire chapter about the optimal way of eating Cap'n Crunch while watching a ballroom dancing instructional video.

If you do like it, it pays to come back to it a while after you finish it; it's like one of those movies where you never catch everything the first time around.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 10:46 AM (8nWyX)

146 So who do you feel about the movie "The Last of the Mohicans?" the newer version.

Or should I ask how that movie is reviews by the progressive leftists.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:43 AM (+Cb51)


I'm sure somebody knows where it is, but Twain wrote a rather scathing "review" of Cooper (and others of his ilk?) who wrote about the frontier. I'll have to track it down one of these days, because it was funny as hell (of course, it was Twain!), and from what I remember, fairly legitimate in its criticism.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:46 AM (Pz4pT)

147 my theory is that the shame would prompt a person to try to

Shame is neither universal nor linear in response, resentment is.

Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2017 10:47 AM (FhXTo)

148 I can buy into that. But when I have to work it out in my head, that this REAL person, and these real events, somehow went another way? My brain doesn't run that way, so it takes a monumental step for me to switch tracks and try to go with it.

Posted by: BurtTC


I gib you happy ending. Dat real enough for you, soldier boy?

Posted by: Nancy Kwan at March 26, 2017 10:47 AM (vRcUp)

149 Long time lurker here:

If you want a light and fun but interesting read, that's not only interesting and fun, but also informative... and fun, buy my book, dammit. It's currently available $1 on Kindle for a limited time. (Paperback on Amazon or CreateSpace for a few bucks more.)

To Save Us All From Ruin - A Muldoon Adventure


WWII, tale of three brothers set on a backdrop of the Anzio invasion.

It's got pie!


http://tinyurl.com/n8kghut


Did I mention it is fun?


And it has pie!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 10:48 AM (wPiJc)

150 "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses":

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3172/3172-h/3172-h.htm

On my short list of indispensible writing advice.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at March 26, 2017 10:49 AM (Bbi5h)

151 Since it's de-lurk day, I'll chime in! I read the book thread every week and especially love the pictures of moron libraries.
Posted by: Emily at March 26, 2017 10:27 AM (mr+ga)


Welcome, Emily! Thank you for the de-lurk.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:49 AM (WPSd5)

152 Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/pksg8mt

"Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses"

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:49 AM (Pz4pT)

153 If you want a light and fun but interesting read, that's not only interesting and fun, but also informative... and fun, buy my book, dammit. It's currently available $1 on Kindle for a limited time. (Paperback on Amazon or CreateSpace for a few bucks more.)

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 10:48 AM (wPiJc)


Dang it, Muldoon, why didn't you tell me you were going to do this? I would've announced it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:50 AM (WPSd5)

154 I'm reading Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost. I am soooo glad that I learned about Greek and Roman mythology in high school. Milton uses the G and R myths as the structure against which the story of the fall of man is told. The book includes a nice reference/notes section which is helpful for those stories I either can't remember too well or never learned.

Posted by: squeakywheel at March 26, 2017 10:51 AM (dzorZ)

155 Delurking as requested.
I recommend RE McDermott's Under a Telltale Sky and its sequel. Both are entertaining and instructive post EMP novels. In many ways I think the books are much more thoughtful than One Second After for those of us who enjoy post-apocalyptic fiction. For those morons who have Kindle Unlimited, these two novels are included selections.

Posted by: RimrockR at March 26, 2017 10:53 AM (41diI)

156 Is there a collected edition of Arthur Conan Doyle's short stories (not Sherlock Holmes)?

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 10:53 AM (ANIFC)

157 Anyway currently reading The Number of the Beast by Heinlein. Ugh dialogue in beginning is awful. Anyone know if this book gets better? I loved Stranger many years ago. Maybe he's always been meh and now I see it. Also reading Dante as I feel it is a bucket list duty and I am nearing half century. (Sadz)
Carry on
Posted by: (not) Lurking Queen

I have been reading Heinlein since I was a kid in the'60's, and can comfortably say that "The Number of the Beast" is the worst thing he ever wrote.
I think he was sick at the time (he did suffer from a pulmonary circulatory disease in his later years) and this was a book he wrote to make money.
He wrote a couple of books after this, "Friday" (which tied in with "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress") and "J.O.B., A Comedy of Justice" that were pretty good. So I think he got his writing mojo back before he died.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 10:54 AM (S6Pax)

158 Twain's critique of Cooper is literary criticism is fabulous.

"rule 14: Eschew Surplusage"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (0hI48)

159 Ha!

Fenimore Cooper's literary offenses by Mark Twain

twain.lib.virginia.edu
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pksg8mt
and
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l4sb8y6

and on the wiki

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (+Cb51)

160 >>Do keep us updated as you read it. That one's a little polarizing. Most
people tend to really like it, but some people find the narrative style
off-putting and it's monstrously dense - there's an entire chapter about
the optimal way of eating Cap'n Crunch while watching a ballroom
dancing instructional video.


Ah, so like REAM DE, then?
So dang s-l-o-w in the beginning, but so worth it to get to the rest of the story.
I've had Cryptocomicon on my kindle, too....

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)

161 "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses":

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3172/3172-h/3172-h.htm

On my short list of indispensible writing advice.
Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at March 26, 2017 10:49 AM (Bbi5h)


Your link is cleaner, and easier to read. If folks want to read it, they would be better using your link than mine.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (Pz4pT)

162 ST (the book) is almost exactly like that. There is
the part about basic training, and there is the part about warfare.
Different stories.

Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2017 10:35 AM (HV1LS)

That is why I preferred the Boys of Company C to Platoon. The development of the young Marines, especially Washington is really pronounced while they were in boot camp, Platoon just thrusts guys into chaos. But Full Metal Jacket is one of the most impressive boot camp storylines ever. R Lee Ermey had been a Marine Drill Instructor and his trained delivery of commentary was all ad lib. Great movie and you can tell if you are watching with a Marine, because we are the ones laughing and smiling.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (7N6ox)

163 Almost finished with The Adventures of Gary and Ace in Tahiti- writing it, that is. But, with a whole world out there, this series could go on forever!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (eeTCA)

164 Is there a collected edition of Arthur Conan Doyle's short stories (not Sherlock Holmes)?
Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 10:53 AM (ANIFC)


I can only suggest going to Gutenberg.org, they may not have it all, but they have stuff I've never seen anywhere else.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2017 10:57 AM (0hI48)

165 Muldoon, will it still be a dollar tomorrow? I can do a blog post.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at March 26, 2017 10:58 AM (Om16U)

166 So who do you feel about the movie "The Last of the Mohicans?" the newer version.
Or should I ask how that movie is reviews by the progressive leftists.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:43 AM (+Cb51)


That's one movie I never got around to seeing, so I don't know anything about it. But if it's anything like the execrable 'Dances With Wolves', I don't think I want to sit through a couple of hours of non-historial, pc bullsh*t.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:58 AM (WPSd5)

167 Blutarski-esque

Some book recommendations, for good books they made into pretty good movies---though my list may tilt "ette"
Sophie's Choice
Cosmos
Godfather
Atonement


Posted by: Goldilocks at March 26, 2017 10:59 AM (zz1sH)

168 Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at March 26, 2017 10:49 AM (Bbi5h)

Yep, that's a better link.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:59 AM (+Cb51)

169 Willie Nelson, "It's A Long Story" (My Life) is a great read. What a lively mind. Reading his lyrics raw reveals his poetic writing ability. The stories run the gamut, hilarious, sad, revealing, uplifting, touching.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 26, 2017 11:00 AM (3myMJ)

170 96 ... Tonestaple, The book is "The Arabian Nights: A Companion" by Robert Irwin. Got a used hardcover which was cheaper than the Kindle version. Haven't started it yet (damn!) but it gets good reviews.

I find the Arabian Nights fascinating, both for the stories and the way it is assembled. It is convoluted, involuted, and every other 'voluted'. Although I have different translations, the one I settled on is the Haddawy version. I think Irwin uses that one for his book.

Like most kids, I knew the 'fairy tale' versions of Ali Baba, Aladdin, and (from Popeye cartoons) Sinbad the Sailor. Reading the unexpurgated versions as an adult is much more satisfying.

I wonder if anyone ever did a comparison between The Canterbury Tales and The Arabian Nights for structure and what they reveal about the cultures of the books? Could be interesting in a nerdy way.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 11:00 AM (V+03K)

171 I read "The Man in the High Castle" thirty years ago, so my memory may be faulty, but my main takeaway was that the characters realize through the I-Ching that their reality is a mistake, and that the Allies should have won WWII. A very cool "Whoaaaaa..." moment, which the entire novel leads to.

So, any details about the alternate world are moot, since it's just a colossal fuck-up.


Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 26, 2017 11:00 AM (1ouh3)

172 Oregon Muse -- if you want the straight skinny on Islam then you should look for a website called Political Islam. The owner/operator is Dr. Bill Warner, a former scientist & business man. He's got several YouTube videos where he talks about how he approached the problem of explaining Islam using the Koran, the Hadith and the Sira (the Holy Books of Islam). His first videos are about 4 years old. He wasn't used to public speaking then and it shows but he's gotten better over the years. He has a whole series of books on Islam. They're written in a sparse, Hemingway-esque style. Slim little volumes, they're a pretty quick read.

Posted by: Tim at March 26, 2017 11:00 AM (jiQvT)

173 Ah, so like REAM DE, then?
So dang s-l-o-w in the beginning, but so worth it to get to the rest of the story.
I've had Cryptocomicon on my kindle, too....
Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)


I thought Cryptonomicon was actually easier to get into than REAMDE (which is on my kindle and which I still haven't finished). Same style, just a little more engaging.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:01 AM (8nWyX)

174 Some book recommendations, for good books they made into pretty good movies---though my list may tilt "ette"
Sophie's Choice
Cosmos
Godfather
Atonement


Posted by: Goldilocks

Thank you!

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 26, 2017 11:01 AM (xJxz7)

175 Okay, I'll delurk.

Book I highly recommend in non-fiction is "On Killng" by Grossman. It's written by a psychologist and retired Army Officer and talks about the psychology and history of killing and various ways modern armies have overcome the barrier of killing fellow people. I learned a lot, like did you know the average rate of infantrymen actually firing at the end was about 20% in WWII? Seems to be true in every war prior to Korea. Really worth a read though I am little uneasy with his last chapter.

Also, shameless plug- while ago I wrote a small book meant to help parents navigate the mental health system, as many of my clients seemed to be grasping at straws to figure out where to even begin. It's an ebook on amazon - "A Parent's Guide to Mental Health"

Posted by: aivanther at March 26, 2017 11:01 AM (KkUrF)

176 Books into pretty good movies/series:

Winnie the Pooh
Cat in the Hat
Curious George

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 11:02 AM (MIKMs)

177 Actually, I mis-remembered that completely.

"Friday" was a great adventure story written by Heinlein, and I think the last thing he wrote (completed).

"The Cat Who Walked Through Walls" was the story tied into "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", and that too was a later Heinlein book that was pretty good.

But "The Number of the Beast" was still about the worst thing Heinlein every wrote.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:02 AM (S6Pax)

178 Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 10:48 AM (wPiJc)

Overrated!

Very light on limericks. Very light.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 26, 2017 11:04 AM (r/lvo)

179 Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:43 AM (+Cb51)

That's one movie I never got around to seeing, so I don't know anything about it. But if it's anything like the execrable 'Dances With Wolves', I don't think I want to sit through a couple of hours of non-historial, pc bullsh*t.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 10:58 AM (WPSd5)


Having never read the books, I cannot say how it compares, but the movie with DD Lewis as the lead, is very good.

No PC bs, as far as I recall.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:04 AM (Pz4pT)

180 Dang it, Muldoon, why didn't you tell me you were going to do this? I would've announced it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004


*****

You told us we had to lurk.




Muldoon, will it still be a dollar tomorrow? I can do a blog post.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at


*****

All next week.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 11:04 AM (wPiJc)

181 "Last of the Mohicans" with Daniel Day Lewis is one of my favorite films.

"Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" is laugh-out-loud funny.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 26, 2017 11:05 AM (1ouh3)

182 josephistan, I'm looking at the Bibliography section on ArthurConanDoyle.com, and I'm not seeing a single "Complete Short Stories" type of book. The non-Holmes omnibus volumes appear to be The Professor Challenger Stories (1959), The Conan Doyle Stories (1929--might be what you're looking for), and The Conan Doyle Historical Romances I (1931) and II (1932), the latter of which includes the two Brigadier Gerard collections.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at March 26, 2017 11:06 AM (Bbi5h)

183 >>I thought Cryptonomicon was actually easier to get into than
REAMDE (which is on my kindle and which I still haven't finished). Same
style, just a little more engaging.

PHEW! Only trudged through the beginning of REAMDE because I was on a long plane ride.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 11:06 AM (NOIQH)

184 And it has pie!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 26, 2017 10:48 AM (wPiJc)

Already read it. The image of a Hamster guided arty shell still makes me laugh.

Waiting for the sequel.

Please!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at March 26, 2017 11:06 AM (d76uN)

185 That's one movie I never got around to seeing, so I don't know anything about it. But if it's anything like the execrable 'Dances With Wolves', I don't think I want to sit through a couple of hours of non-historial, pc bullsh*t.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004

I think it is actually a pretty good movie. Not like "Dances with Kitties"

PC, it is not. Shows the Iriquois doing some pretty monstrous things, but you understand why they did it. Some very good action scenes in it.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:07 AM (S6Pax)

186 I've been digging the Frontlines series by Marko Kloos (https://www.amazon.com/Terms-Enlistment-Frontlines-Book-1-ebook/dp/B00CIXX144)

It's a good, modern take on Starship Troopers - messed-up, imperialistic, really alien aliens wants to conquer earth. We're not having it and so we go to interstellar war. Quality military sci-fi, check it out!

Posted by: Filthy Scandi Snowbilly at March 26, 2017 11:07 AM (nIJHj)

187 Books into pretty good movies/series:

Winnie the Pooh
Cat in the Hat
Curious George

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 11:02 AM (MIKMs)


If you mean "Cat in the Hat" cartoon, with Allan Sherman as the cat, then yes. The Mike Meyers live action film was horrible.

Sherman's songs are brilliant.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)

188 PKDick's The Divine Invasion was the wildest speculative fiction I ever read: What if the creator of the universe chose to enter the mortal plane and manifest itself as a human being? (Hint: You can reach a lot of people by becoming a rock'n'roll superstar.) My verdict at the time was that Matthew, Mark and Luke told the story much better.

I always figured he just happened to pick up a bible while zonked out on mushrooms. But the thought upthread that Dick was a Christian believer never even occurred to me. Now I'll probably need to give it a re-read.

BTW, season two of MitHC makes the Grasshopper films a world-changing plot point. Not just a woozy inspirational metaphor, but useful hard data. Frank Spotnitz is a frickin' plotting genius.

Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at March 26, 2017 11:09 AM (UfqKz)

189 Oops. Hit "Post" before I was done.

Anyway - I read a Cooper novel - "The Prairie", I think - and I thought, "This is the stupidest piece of shit I've ever read." Figured it must be me, because, well, Cooper was famous and revered and all.

Later I discovered "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses", by the even more famous and revered Mark Twain, and was ecstatic to be vindicated.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 26, 2017 11:10 AM (1ouh3)

190 After DT became PDT, I went back to reread sections of Walter Russell Meade's Special Providence. Meade therein categorizes and describes four schools of American foreign policy. The title comes from a quote of Otto von Bismarck - "God grants special Providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America." There are many variants of the quote and earlier versions, but they all center on the inexplicable (to the Europeans) luck of the US. Another Bismarck quote might provide a partial explanation, to the effect that America is lucky as it is bordered north and south by weak neighbors and to the east and west by fish. 9/11 put paid to that comfortable isolation.
PDT? - I think a meld of Hamiltonian mercantile policy and Jacksonian populist and strong military policy - none of the Jeffersonian and Wilsonian positions for him. But a central idea of the book is the need for thorough debate and compromise, which PDT is encountering domestically now.

Posted by: chuckR at March 26, 2017 11:10 AM (qS1uX)

191 I need some suggestions from you guys. I want to start reading history again, starting with American history, then European, then who knows. Does anyone know of a bibliography that would give me a list of resources that minimize bias or at least that are upfront about the controversies? I just want to avoid wasting time with someone like Howard Zin and not realizing it until I get far along.

Posted by: Last at March 26, 2017 11:11 AM (8HiDF)

192 Since y'all are discussing books into movies now, what's the deal on Eight Men Out?
I usually don't care one iota about sports, but I genuiney enjoy almost every sports themed movie I've ever seen.

It's supposed to be raining soon, and I see the the movie is coming on OTA TV at noon. A good day to put on a pot of collards, relax with a movie, or possibly crack open Call Of The Wild again (like I've been promising myself).

Posted by: The name... is Dalton at March 26, 2017 11:12 AM (2SERm)

193 Shows the Iriquois doing some pretty monstrous things, but you understand why they did it. Some very good action scenes in it.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:07 AM (S6Pax)


Up to a point, regarding the atrocities. In a way, this might be a modern parallel, especially with the discussion we had yesterday about how the left is trying to "use" muzzies as the point of the speer for their overthrow of Western Civ.

The french used the Iroquois against the British, and then had no way to control just how brutal they would become. And ultimately, had the french won, it is hard to see how they could have reined in their native "troops."

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:12 AM (Pz4pT)

194 124
I've been on a kick of reading the books from which movies were based. . .

Any suggestions?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 26, 2017 10:32 AM (xJxz7)

******


I thoroughly enjoyed Little Big Man by Thomas Berger.

This is the book that inspired the Dustin Hoffman movie.

I read it several years ago right after reading True Grit. I had just watched the new Jeff Bridges movie and re-watched the John Wayne original. I agree that the book is awesome.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at March 26, 2017 11:12 AM (NqQAS)

195
If you mean "Cat in the Hat" cartoon, with Allan Sherman as the cat, then yes. The Mike Meyers live action film was horrible.
Sherman's songs are brilliant. Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)
=====

Martin Short does a really good job with the new cartoon series.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 11:12 AM (MIKMs)

196
If you mean "Cat in the Hat" cartoon, with Allan Sherman as the cat, then yes. The Mike Meyers live action film was horrible.

Sherman's songs are brilliant.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)
---
Wait -- Allan "My Son the Folksinger" Sherman was the Cat in the Hat?

How did I not know this?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (PhYV5)

197 I am currently immersed in learning about the Amazing Randi.

His debunking of the fraud psychics is both hilarious and fascinating.

He shows how they take simple parlor tricks to the umpteenth degree. Youboob videos mostly.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (5VlCp)

198 Also, shameless plug- while ago I wrote a small book meant to help parents navigate the mental health system, as many of my clients seemed to be grasping at straws to figure out where to even begin. It's an ebook on amazon - "A Parent's Guide to Mental Health"
Posted by: aivanther at March 26, 2017 11:01 AM (KkUrF)


I think it's this book here:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O96HMPM/

If you don't mind, I'd like to give your book some pimpage next week.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (WPSd5)

199 @votermom

Not seen on moron author list:
Daniel Humphreys:
A Place Outside the Wild, Fade.

Posted by: justme justme at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (LHwIr)

200 Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:12 AM (Pz4pT)

By the way, I'm talking about the film, and not the books, and in no way am I making a claim about how the french (and the British) used natives as combatants in the pre-American revolution wars.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (Pz4pT)

201 mngiggle upstairs mentioned Legacy of Heorot, which is awesome and I second that recommendation. It's refreshing - maybe because it's a collaborative effort - to read sci-fi that isn't "this is my fiercely-held political opinion, but in the fuuuuuutuuuuure". Human colonists get in trouble because they wreck up the ecology without understanding it, but they also won't listen to the Cassandra voice of the military advisor and it bites them on the ass. It's also just a really good book. The sequel (Beowulf's Children) is excellent as well. There's a third, but I have been advised to pretend there isn't, and after the whole Dune thing, I'll take that advice.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (8nWyX)

202 If you mean "Cat in the Hat" cartoon, with Allan Sherman as the cat, then yes. The Mike Meyers live action film was horrible.
Sherman's songs are brilliant. Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)
=====

Martin Short does a really good job with the new cartoon series.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 11:12 AM (MIKMs)

Oh! I did not know there WAS a new cartoon series.

I'll have to check it out.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:14 AM (Pz4pT)

203 Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)
---
Wait -- Allan "My Son the Folksinger" Sherman was the Cat in the Hat?

How did I not know this?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (PhYV5)


Full version on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jK6l1WJKUU

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)

204 119 ... Skandia, Thanks for suggesting the Frontier Trilogy by Zane Grey. Turns out I got it on Kindle a couple of years ago and forgot about it. This happens more and more. SIGH! It goes on the to be read soon list.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 11:17 AM (V+03K)

205 Jodhi May alone is worth the price of admission to Last of the Mohicans. From A World Apart right up through Tipping the Velvet, she has never failed me.

Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at March 26, 2017 11:18 AM (UfqKz)

206 177 Actually, I mis-remembered that completely.

"Friday" was a great adventure story written by Heinlein, and I think the last thing he wrote (completed).

"The Cat Who Walked Through Walls" was the story tied into "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", and that too was a later Heinlein book that was pretty good.

But "The Number of the Beast" was still about the worst thing Heinlein every wrote.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 26, 2017 11:02 AM (S6Pax)


TNotB was the first Heinlein I ever read. Almost put me off him, it did.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at March 26, 2017 11:18 AM (6GTWP)

207 Glad to see the newest Amy Lynn story out. I almost feel sorry for the would-be crime lord and their pet congress critter. You ticked off Jack. Where do I send the flowers?

Heinlein's Friday would be interesting to see a tele-adaptation of.

As for Ted the former British secret agent. The old Sovs and their DDR 'friends' certainly did play for keeps. Wow.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2017 11:19 AM (Dt3Vr)

208 I am currently immersed in learning about the Amazing Randi.
His debunking of the fraud psychics is both hilarious and fascinating.
He shows how they take simple parlor tricks to the umpteenth degree. Youboob videos mostly.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 11:13 AM (5VlCp)


To me, Randi comes off as a bit of a putz. I don't think I would like him personally, and his atheistic beliefs are diametrically opposed to mine. Nevertheless, I agree with you that he has been doing the Lord's work (heh) exposing psychic frauds, fake faith healers, and other charlatans.

But isn't he, like, 143 years old now? I'm surprised he's still alive.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 11:19 AM (WPSd5)

209 Sunday Moron Library Envy Rant: Another library I can live in. Needs more dog hair puffs and cat hair miasma, but overall: achievable. Thanks, Skandia.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 11:19 AM (MIKMs)

210 106
De-luring..
"Do you know of a good biography for Zane Grey?"
Zane Grey: Romancing the West by Stephen J May, Ohio University Press.

I grew up in Altadena across from his home there and driving thru Ohio stopped at the museum in Zaneville where I picked up the book.

Posted by: meleager at March 26, 2017 11:20 AM (farpF)

211
Full version on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jK6l1WJKUU
Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)
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Thanks!

*settles down with sugary breakfast cereal*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 11:20 AM (PhYV5)

212 De-lurking as requested:

I'm reading the autobiography of Benjamin Franklin right now. I highly recommend it! Although I'm only about half way in the material is fascinating.
I have long been influenced by his list of thirteen virtues but to read his description of trying to perfect those virtues makes him seem much more human and easier to relate to!
Particularly, he says that while he never mastered any of the virtues, he thinks he was likely a much better person for trying to. He also talks about changing his mode of conversation to refrain from saying anything definite but always to say, it appears to me, or, it seems in this instance. Ah diplomacy!
Highly recommended!

Posted by: sugar plum fairy #176-671 at March 26, 2017 11:21 AM (ev9Xs)

213 TNotB was the first Heinlein I ever read. Almost put me off him, it did.
Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at March 26, 2017 11:18 AM (6GTWP)
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I started with the hippie shit as a teenager and moved my way back to the juveniles as a "mature" adult. Oddly enough, it tracked more with my world view this way.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 26, 2017 11:23 AM (PhYV5)

214 Also, I've been meaning to thank all the morons who recommend books regularly here. Almost my entire Christmas shopping was done by just ordering the books i found interesting that were recommended here!

Posted by: sugar plum fairy #176-671 at March 26, 2017 11:23 AM (ev9Xs)

215 126 ... "Life on the Ohio frontier (Lewis Wetzel is mentioned. He was a famous frontier man, Indian fighter colonialist, white supremacist, exploiter, and ruthless oppressor.)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 10:30 AM (+Cb51)
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Adjusted for political correctness."

OM, Thanks for the PC adjustment. Sounds like just what I want. :-)

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 11:24 AM (V+03K)

216 A couple weeks ago I mentioned listening to "How Great Science Fiction Works", a lecture series by Gary K Wolfe. It started out really good, but it took a tumble in the last third. Part of the slip may have been because the subject matter got dumber (The New Wave sci-fi discussed sounded more like lit-shit than actual sci-fi) or it may have been that he started delving into 'social issues' in sci-fi. (I flat out skipped the Gender Questions and Feminism lecture, since the first time he touched on that sort of story it was insultingly banal.)

The final straw was the 'new diversity' lecture, which was supposed to deal with newer sci-fi from outside of US and England. Japan was mentioned once, in a list, without a single word of elaboration. I'm not a huge anime fan, but, c'mon, sci-fi has been anime's bread and butter! I'm sure its been influential, and its not like he hadn't focused on non-book sci-fi in other lectures. At the very least, when Gary was talking about full-body prosthetics (earlier in the series) he should have referenced Ghost in the Shell rather than some John Scalzi novel, since GitS predated the novel by 20 to 30 years....

Posted by: Castle Guy at March 26, 2017 11:25 AM (7aeqx)

217 Number of The Beast is a great Iron Maiden album, though.

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 11:26 AM (ANIFC)

218 I like the pic of Skandia Recluse's library, wondered how long it'd be before someone took a picture of their Kindle.

Listened to Dragonflight (Dragonriders of Pern #1) by Anne McCaffrey, I'd read some of these books as a kid and still liked it, the characters and story are simple but likeable.

Working on In The Shadow Of Young Girls In Flower (In Search Of Lost Time #2) by Proust, where the young boy is growing up, falls in love with Swann's daughter Gilberte and gets to know Swann and Odette's circle of important friends. Good story, love the writing but long way to go. Saw on YouTube this is the longest novel in the world, twice the length of War and Peace. Not sure what I've got myself into.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 26, 2017 11:27 AM (DXrCk)

219 I discovered "A Catechism of the Steam Engine by C.E. John Bourne" 1856 on Gutenberg. It's full of all kinds technical of stuff on engines, boiler, ships, paddle wheels, props, and other archaic and obsolete details. It's interesting though because it's about state of the art tech at the time. It was pretty sophisticated and the engineering was solid.

Posted by: freaked at March 26, 2017 11:28 AM (BO/km)

220 PHEW! Only trudged through the beginning of REAMDE because I was on a long plane ride.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2017 11:06 AM (NOIQH)


I've tried to poke through REAMDE, but it's hard for me to visualize the characters for some reason, and every time I set it down, I forget exactly wtf is happening the next time I pick it up. There's a boat? How did they get on a boat? I thought they were in a hotel? What happened to the taxi lady?

Cryptonomicon might take 10-15 pages to introduce a character instead of just saying "he's kind of a math savant and organ player who ends up stationed in Pearl Harbor in late 1941", but by God do you have a fully fleshed-out mental image of him.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:28 AM (8nWyX)

221 Are there any Mormons among the AoS commentariat? Because they should definitely call themselves the Moroni Horde.

Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at March 26, 2017 11:28 AM (UfqKz)

222 >> Number of The Beast is a great Iron Maiden album, though.


The first 5 are essential.

Read the new Brian Mclellan Powder Mage Book this week.

Good Stuff. Liked that first series and the new one is just as good.

Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2017 11:29 AM (T1Co2)

223 When US science fiction meets animation from Japan. With really bad English songs.

From 1988, first episode adaptation of Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers by Bandai.
https://youtu.be/_WABQwEB4Bg

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2017 11:29 AM (Dt3Vr)

224 But isn't he, like, 143 years old now? I'm surprised he's still alive.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 11:19 AM (WPSd5)

Yup...he is an atheist and a homo to boot. But his use of logic and simple common sense to de-bunk the "gifted" grifters is quite funny and illuminating. He shows how people want to believe and that is what the hucksters prey on most.

But I don't think I would hang out with the guy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 11:29 AM (5VlCp)

225 Sometimes I participate; more I lurk and I will continue to lurk.
I'm ready-slowly-The Last Lion, about Winston Churchill.
Great book but I am ready slowly because if I bite off more than I can chew it will be impossible for me to digest.
That's my reading style.
So what in the name of all that is righteous happened to lionhearted England?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2017 11:31 AM (nBr1j)

226 Comments on Dances with Wolves prompted me to remember Empire of the Summer Moon, by S. C. Gwynne, about the Comanches. Peaceful hunters and pastorialists they weren't. They scared the living shit out of the Apaches, among others, and put up a stiff resistance against the whites through much of the 19th century.

Posted by: chuckR at March 26, 2017 11:31 AM (qS1uX)

227 George Will (in 2015) said Buckley spent decades making conservatism "intellectually respectable and politically palatable". But the CIA aspect of Buckley leads to the conjecture, was William just running a psyop campaign to divide the right. He did push "globalist free trade" and excommunicated Buchanan and Derbyshire and others that said "America First" 25 years ago.

William F's long chin stroking diatribes were given frequent air time by the MSM, as he was ensconced as the standard bearer for all things "conservative". But he had faith in economic theory as if God had written those "laws", with little regard for the limitations even the economic academics recognized.

Buckley stated in 2005 in "Trade the Bumpy Road": "It requires acts of faith in economic laws to applaud free trade. But Adam Smith was resoundingly correct in laying down the law that both parties benefit, giving us the benefit of exposure to Lou Dobbs, and the freedom to reject his council."

But "free trade" theory was already outdated when Buckley wrote that. The "protectionists" (mercantilists, not isolationists) were the ones that had trade surpluses while American neocons played the "trust us" game on our soaring deficits. Dobbs was prescient in 2005, Trump prescient in 1990 on the same issue.

Buckley, deep state psyop agent for the globalist CIA? Intriguing concept.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2017 11:32 AM (BrMft)

228 Yup...he is an atheist and a homo to boot.Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 11:29 AM (5VlCp)

Ha! I knew it! No wonder his bad juju was leaking into my energy field.

Posted by: Yuri The Spoon Bender Geller at March 26, 2017 11:33 AM (r/lvo)

229 Delurking for an invite to the GoodReads group... and I'll throw in a couple recommendations for good measure.
The Pillars of the Earth by Follett.
Pandora's Star by Hamilton.
And anything by Matthew Reilly, except Troll Mountain. That was awful.

Posted by: Shashiga at March 26, 2017 11:33 AM (c89oE)

230 De-lurking here to recommend Jan Struther's 'Mrs. Miniver'. It's a series of vingettes so doesn't really follow a plot but it was written in and around WWII (one of the stories is about how awful it is to have to invite couples to dinner parties because there's an A side and a B side and the B sides are always dire, but another article is seeing a child fitted with a gas mask that is all the more poignant for not being highly emotional). The writing is lovely and it made me look at life a little more closely.

I'm fulfilling a lifetime goal of writing a book right now--it's not really for Morons (clean Regency romance with magical elements)--and it's made me SO tremendously impressed by good writers and good writing. It's not easy, you guys!

Posted by: Beanerschnitzel at March 26, 2017 11:36 AM (8pTPn)

231 Uh oh. Caught it sock fail limbo?

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 26, 2017 11:36 AM (r/lvo)

232 I'm still reading 'Cowboy Detective' from last Sunday's thread and just finished the Chapter on the Coeur d'Alene Miner's strike of 1892 which made it clear to me that socialism has been a contentious issue far longer than just the anti war protests of the sixties.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 26, 2017 09:37 AM (+Cb51)

I read much of Cowboy Detective last week. Yesterday, I was looking at a book that someone just brought in that is something like "100 years of Spokane history as seen through the newspapers," published in the late 1970's. Opened it up at random to a page about the Coeur d'Alene strike of 1892. Mentioned the mines by name and dropping the explosives down the chute.

I managed to get a poor free kindle version. All the hyphens that were at the end of a line were replaced with a space. And many spaces were replaced with carriage returns. Might have to ask for my money back.

Posted by: Just John at March 26, 2017 11:36 AM (1yGmM)

233 John Scalzi has the same problem as many current directors of anime in Japan. They grew up immersed in a world that already had great anime like Nausicaa, Neon Genesis Evangelion, or even Angel's Egg. What results is more a homage/fan-service to what has already happened and trying to use the genre tropes to sell a story instead of actually telling a story.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2017 11:37 AM (Dt3Vr)

234 I like anything involving "dick" and Japan.

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What I learned about Latin this week: the word for dick, mentula, is grammatically feminine and the word for cunt, cunnus, is masculine.

No wonder their empire feel.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 26, 2017 11:37 AM (Nwg0u)

235 Yup...he is an atheist and a homo to boot. But his use of logic and simple common sense to de-bunk the "gifted" grifters is quite funny and illuminating. He shows how people want to believe and that is what the hucksters prey on most.

But I don't think I would hang out with the guy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 26, 2017 11:29 AM (5VlCp)


There's a 13 minute video that sounds a lot like that, wherein an experienced filmmaker blows up the "Apollo landings were faked" thing. From the little I've read about him, if we grabbed a coffee somewhere we'd each respectfully disagree about pretty much everything in a civil manner.

FWIW, it's also a really good video and worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU

Posted by: hogmartin at March 26, 2017 11:38 AM (8nWyX)

236 Posted by: chuckR at March 26, 2017 11:31 AM (qS1uX)

Empire of the Summer Moon is on sale through Kindle for at least today.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 26, 2017 11:39 AM (sEDyY)

237 217
Number of The Beast is a great Iron Maiden album, though.

Posted by: josephistan at March 26, 2017 11:26 AM (ANIFC)

Here is the LEGO link to Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast. AWESOME!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4feWSQlWQy0

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 26, 2017 11:41 AM (7N6ox)

238 I'm fulfilling a lifetime goal of writing a book
right now--it's not really for Morons (clean Regency romance with
magical elements)--and it's made me SO tremendously impressed by good
writers and good writing. It's not easy, you guys! Posted by: Beanerschnitzel at March 26, 2017 11:36 AM (8pTPn)
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Sorry my 'in' into the world of romance died last year (she was 99). However, she always recommended reading the Amazon boards and the RWA (?) stuff. I was impressed by the dedication to quality writing and editing. They really take it seriously.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 26, 2017 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

239 Anonsosaurus Wrecks, you could test out your 'feel' of Latin at the Lupanare Grande in Pompeii...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2017 11:41 AM (Dt3Vr)

240 Who has time to read when Ace and the commenters take up so much time. I feel like I am missing something every time I turn off the computer. But I've read so many books in my lifetime, which is a couple of years past 29. I did read the first "Wearing the Cat". I enjoyed it until the end. And that's all I'll say about that. And thanks OM, for the book thread. I eagerly await it every week.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at March 26, 2017 11:42 AM (T8WfQ)

241 Empire of the Summer Moon is on sale through Kindle for at least today.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

That's a great book. Might be time for a re read.

True story: Quanah Parker tried to buy my grandmother from my great grandfather in Childress, TX. He declined by the way.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 26, 2017 11:43 AM (xJxz7)

242 Posted by: Beanerschnitzel at March 26, 2017 11:36 AM (8pTPn)

Clean, magical Regency would definitely interest me.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 26, 2017 11:43 AM (sEDyY)

243 Indeed, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is more of a philosophical discourse about empathy and what makes people really human, than about hunting down stray Andies as the story goes in "Blade Runner". Again, Hollywood took the germ of an idea from his book and made it "real".

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If I may cross the beams, movies that are better than the writings they are based on:

The Birds
Blade Runner
Minority Report

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 26, 2017 11:43 AM (Nwg0u)

244 You can read my new Kindle book "I Slaughtered Ten Thousand Democrats and ate Them; tasted like Chicken".


Ninety-nine cents, this week only!!!

Posted by: Burp at March 26, 2017 11:43 AM (ihtYN)

245 150 ... Elisabeth, Thanks for the link. I can't find my copy with the Cooper essay on my book shelves although it has to be there somewhere. Read it back in college and wondered if such a revered author like Cooper could be that bad. Turns out Twain was using understatement. The book was horrible. The latest movie version is MUCH better.

If Cooper wrote "Last of the Mohicans" today, he would be sued by some of the tribes for defamation.

BTW, I love the idea of using "Casey at the Bat" for opening of the new season. Glad you feel up to commenting and have at least a little time. We miss you when you don't post on the thread.

Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2017 11:43 AM (V+03K)

246 Started reading Neil Gaiman for the first time. Finished The Graveyard Book and am now on Neverwhere.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 26, 2017 10:24 AM

Tori Amos is a big Neil Gaiman fan, he is mentioned in a few songs.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 11:44 AM (GPaiX)

247 Finished Sabrina Chase's "The Scent of Metal". It's more Star Trek the Next Generation (3rd season on) than Space Opera. While it can be read as a stand alone, it is definitely a lead-in book to a series. I'd give it a solid 3 out of 5 stars.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 26, 2017 11:44 AM (6n332)

248 George Will (in 2015) said Buckley spent decades making conservatism "intellectually respectable and politically palatable". But the CIA aspect of Buckley leads to the conjecture, was William just running a psyop campaign to divide the right. He did push "globalist free trade" and excommunicated Buchanan and Derbyshire and others that said "America First" 25 years ago.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2017 11:32 AM (BrMft)

I rate this: partially true.

Buckley excommunicated the John Birchers from the respectable pages of National Review back in the late 50s or early 60s. Buchanan was thrown under the bus, along with another one of National Review's major columnists, Joseph Sobran, back in the 90s for being a bit too cozy with anti-Semitism than Buckley was comfortable with. And Derbyshire was given the boot some years after Buckley had passed away. So I can't see that your thesis, that Buckley was a deep cover Deep State psyop, has much to it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 26, 2017 11:46 AM (WPSd5)

249 I can't say what all of James Fenimore Coopers writing sins are but have seen every movie version and the latest is one of my favorites and might be the most beautiful movie ever made.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2017 11:47 AM (GPaiX)

250 Oh, yes, Twain was absolutely slashing in Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses. A good few years ago, the administration of the DODDS school at the base I was assigned was encouraging certain military personnel among us to teach brief seminars at the high school. I did a session where I assigned the students to read that essay - and bring in a book they had read which was good, according to Twain's rules, and one which was bad - and to explain the goodness and badness to the rest of us. It was a fun session. Possibly the kids learned something from it.

I've started on an advance copy of a book that (eek!) isn't due out until July: Sons and Soldiers, by Bruce Henderson. It's about German-Jewish refugees in the US, who were drafted or volunteered for the US Army in WWII - and wound up being sent back to Occupied Europe as part of military intelligence teams. Many of them had left family behind, all of them were extremely motivated, and newly-American citizens. The book goes into some of their stories about how they got out, how they were building new lives for themselves ... and then the war began. I've just gotten up to D-Day, and the account of one guy who was assigned to a paratroop unit, he was supposed to jump with them ... but somehow never got around to going through a shake-an-bake jump course. The jump-master took him aside a few hours before he was doe to get on the transport, and showed him how to land correctly after jumping off a tall stack of pallets in the hangar, and gave him some hints about controlling his parachute.
Riveting stuff - and apparently relatively unknown. I'll post a review on Amazon as soon as I've finished it.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 26, 2017 11:47 AM (xnmPy)

251 "Sorry my 'in' into the world of romance died last year (she was 99)"

Who was this?

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at March 26, 2017 11:47 AM (THS4q)

252 And a question, a liberal friend of mine gave me this book called 'zealot' for Christmas.
he was so excited because it's by a Muslim, about Jesus. I haven't touched it yet. Anyone know anything about it? Worth perusing