Saturday Overnight Open Thread (5/26/18 )

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(Feel the calm. Feel the peace.)

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The Saturday Joke

An admiral visited one of the ships of the line under his command.

While eating breakfast with the crew he was impressed to see the Naval
insignia stamped on every biscuit.

He went to the Chief cook to ask how this feat was done, so it could be
used on other ships under his command.

The Chief replied, "I’d be glad to share that with you, Admiral. After each
biscuit is cut, I just slap it here against my belt buckle which bears the
Navy insignia.

Horrified the Admiral exclaims, "That's very unhygienic!"

The Chief shrugs and replies, "Well, If that’s the way you feel, sir, I suggest you avoid the donuts.

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A weekend, a Moron and a machine, life is good.


Cool boats. BOAT, bust out another thousand.


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Every home and office should have one of these to relieve stress. Shredding your stress away.

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Earlier today our very own KT had another wonderful Gardening Thread. Shrub removal unfortunately wasn't covered. Gardening the genius award winner way.

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There are reasons there are road closed signs. Genius Award Winner.

A woman has been caught on camera trying to drive through a half-marathon to get to the other side. She drove her Ford Focus through a traffic cone to try and cross the route, claiming that she couldn’t find another way. A man tried to stop her but she kept on going until a group of runners stopped in front of her. A council officer ordered her to stop during the event in Plymouth, Devon.

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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Spanking.

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1 St

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (/+bwe)

2 2nd est

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (aC6Sd)

3 Oooooo...pretty!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (kufk0)

4 But will most likely be the last so
Good night.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:52 PM (aC6Sd)

5 NOT Thir#383t...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 09:52 PM (e9G8E)

6 The joke. Lol.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (T71PA)

7

Non primus.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (DM+Gv)

8 Maureen O'Hara was hawt, and she would've knock Harvey Weinstein on his ass if he tried any ficus shit.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (f3MDZ)

9 Damnable Javaſcript!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (e9G8E)

10 That is the only John Wayne/ Maureen O'Hara movie I don't really like. I find the big mud fight silly but not funny, unlike the brawl in The Quiet Man.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 09:54 PM (/+bwe)

11 Humphrey Bogart up next on TCM

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:54 PM (+Tibp)

12 Duke of Patriarchy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 09:55 PM (IqV8l)

13 ONT, as the nights grow shorter...

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at May 26, 2018 09:55 PM (zCyNd)

14 Maureen was one good looking lass. Her #1 fan was herself. Still like her though.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:55 PM (Ymy4N)

15 Serenity Now.

Posted by: davidt at May 26, 2018 09:55 PM (wUZ+I)

16 Spanking? There's not even a single monkey in that picture.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned. at May 26, 2018 09:56 PM (kP7RP)

17 Thank'ee kindly, MisHum, for a fine ONT.

What's next for your requests for CBD, Bosox tickets?

And congratulations, NaughtyPine, on your Primus Noctus.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2018 09:56 PM (DMUuz)

18 Hello all! It's been a busy weekend already

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2018 09:56 PM (PEJUg)

19 Fine picture, MisHum. You pick good ones, but the seascapes are always my favorites.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:57 PM (fZuhk)

20 My favorite war movie is going to be "The Dim Presidential primary of 2020".

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:57 PM (Ymy4N)

21 Re the Admiral/Donut story:

I have a kinda/sorta joke like that, about an immigrant who keeps trying to open an "all-natural" restaurant, but keeps getting in trouble with the powers-that-be.

"America says they want natural, but they don't mean it. I make hamburgers with real ham, they don't want it. I make buffalo wings with real buffalo, they don't want it. I make hot dogs..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:58 PM (eMKNe)

22 Happy ONT!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 09:58 PM (qJtVm)

23 Shad rap's my favorite plug. It's all about the bass.

Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 09:58 PM (UdKB7)

24 I NEED that shredder!

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (PzBTm)

25 Shad rap's my favorite plug. It's all about the bass.
Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 09:58 PM (UdKB7)


Hello there!

Posted by: Meghan Trainor at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (eMKNe)

26 It's after 10:00 pm EST and I'm still awake.

This is a major accomplishment for an old lady.

Congratulate me!

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (cAj82)

27 Let's revisit the Great War.

What up, Horde?

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (e7oj4)

28 Oh man, I don't have to work tomorrow. Or Monday. But Tuesday? I have to be at work at 8am!

Feels good, man.

:3

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (fZuhk)

29 Bosox tickets?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2018 09:56 PM (DMUuz)

Heh....

Anyone who wants to give me tickets to a baseball game at Fenway Park is a good egg.

I hate the Boston Red Sox, but they play in a glorious place, and it is a pleasure to watch baseball there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (wYseH)

30 A woman has been caught on camera trying to drive through a half-marathon to get to the other side. She drove her Ford Focus through a traffic cone to try and cross the route, claiming that she couldn't find another way. Girl, 17, and man arrested after teenager stabbed to death A man tried to stop her but she kept on going until a group of runners stopped in front of her. A council officer ordered her to stop during the event in Plymouth, Devon.

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It looks like the one story has a bit from another story mixed in.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (pvjTE)

31 DINGO: And after the spanking, the oral sex.

GALAHAD: I could stay a bit longer!


Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (9rIkM)

32 logprof, seems like the Civil War and WW1 were both ahead of their times, in all the wrong ways.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (eMKNe)

33 It looks like the one story has a bit from another story mixed in.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (pvjTE)


Forget it Anon, it's Plymouth town.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (sXefu)

34 Teh local Wegmans now has beer tastings in store! (After I showed my ID, rather unlike when I vote.) Teh beer wench guilted me into buying a six of "Cerveza Modelo Negra"...

Not bad!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)

35 John Wayne was a conservative. I always liked his movies.

Class act all the way.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:02 PM (cAj82)

36 A woman has been caught on camera trying to drive through a half-marathon to get to the other side. She drove her Ford Focus through a traffic cone to try and cross the route, claiming that she couldn't find another way. Girl, 17, and man arrested after teenager stabbed to death A man tried to stop her but she kept on going until a group of runners stopped in front of her. A council officer ordered her to stop during the event in Plymouth, Devon.

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LOL. I think you copied a bit of extraneous text there. I don't mean to be anal retentive, but that caused me to do a double take and think "Wow! She's really badass if she stabbed people to death while driving just to continue on her way".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (/qEW2)

37 I liked McLintock! It was a lighthearted departure from most of his other movies. Not that any of them were bad.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (IuYIh)

38 So how did you all spend the first day of your three day week-end?
I cleaned house and himself prepped the front porch ceiling for painting.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (cAj82)

39 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (pvjTE)

It was one of those stupid blurbs for another article that sneaked into the text.

I blame James Comey.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (wYseH)

40 "Cerveza Modelo Negra"...

Not bad!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)

Grew up drinking it in TX. One of my favs

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (Ymy4N)

41 I'm meditating with some Kemp's Cherry Fudge Chunk ice cream.

Posted by: davidt at May 26, 2018 10:04 PM (wUZ+I)

42 LOL. I think you copied a bit of extraneous text there. I don't mean to be anal retentive, but that caused me to do a double take and think "Wow! She's really badass if she stabbed people to death while driving just to continue on her way".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

In her defense, she did say she'd cut a bitch.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:04 PM (f3MDZ)

43 32 logprof, seems like the Civil War and WW1 were both ahead of their times, in all the wrong ways.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (eMKNe)

--I the novel, it will veer away from the Western Front, and end with the Battle of Caporetto.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:04 PM (e7oj4)

44 40 "Cerveza Modelo Negra"...

Not bad!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)

Grew up drinking it in TX. One of my favs
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (Ymy4N)

--Agreed.

The wifey likes Pacifico.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:05 PM (e7oj4)

45 Evening all. Spending the night(s) this weekend on the boat, safely tucked into a party cove. There is a flotilla of 8 boats here, and we dare not venture onto the open lake this weekend. The idiots are everywhere on holiday weekends.

I hope y'all are having a great holiday weekend, and I thank greatly those who served and made the ultimate sacrifice to make this weekend possible.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at May 26, 2018 10:05 PM (I16G8)

46 So how did you all spend the first day of your three day week-end?

I cleaned house and himself prepped the front porch ceiling for painting.

Posted by: ALH
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Cut down and sawed up a tree while trying to keep three little neighbor kids from *helping*. I'm beat.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 10:05 PM (9rIkM)

47 Anyone who wants to give me tickets to a baseball game at Fenway Park is a good egg.

I hate the Boston Red Sox, but they play in a glorious place, and it is a pleasure to watch baseball there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (wYseH)

Yeah, as a Tiger fan, I still gotta give ya that one. I'd fly out to Boston in a heartbeat if I got free tickets to the Bosox.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 10:06 PM (IuYIh)

48 Seems like Wayne was always spanking & #MeTooing on O'Hara in their flicks ;^) or maybe I am just thinking of his spanking some gal in Donovan's Reef - that spanking photo posted is from the movie McClintock.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:06 PM (yNyJy)

49 37 I liked McLintock! It was a lighthearted departure from most of his other movies. Not that any of them were bad.
Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (IuYIh)

--McClintock! and The Cowboys are the shit.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:07 PM (e7oj4)

50 Cut down and sawed up a tree while trying to keep three little neighbor kids from *helping*. I'm beat.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 10:05 PM (9rIkM)

We also put mulch on the flower beds in front. It was on sale at the Big Orange Box 5 bags for $10.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:07 PM (cAj82)

51 38>> Played a round of golf today and then mowed and edged the lawn. And now for a scotch and a cigar in the hot tube.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 26, 2018 10:08 PM (L+pr4)

52 So how did you all spend the first day of your three day week-end?
I cleaned house and himself prepped the front porch ceiling for painting.
Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (cAj82)


1. got muh hair did
2. in so doing, took a picture of a table
3. mowed the lawn
4. installed a new router
5. cooked a food
6. maintained a level of constant HQ shitposting in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service, reflecting great credit upon myself and the US Navy

I've been so productive I could just shit.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:08 PM (fZuhk)

53 Look closely at the wryly amused smirk on Teh Duke's face in that last photograph.

He's amusing himself greatly, and knows he's amusing the crowd as well.

You'll find that same mirthsome grin on dozens of Trumpian photographs, too.

Coincidence? I think not.

Y'don't mess with Teh Donald, Pil-grum... unh-huh.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:08 PM (QzJWU)

54 and a cigar in the hot tube.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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Okaaaaay.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (9rIkM)

55 Got to find a replacement for my Starbucks house blend beans. When they go on sale for 4.99 for a 12 oz bag, I always buy a few months worth. Never can pass it up but can't do it anymore. phuckers

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (Ymy4N)

56
photoshop Trump on the Duke and fauxchahontus or hillary on O'hara.

or schumer

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (r+sAi)

57 Pithy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 10:10 PM (yQpMk)

58 So how did you all spend the first day of your three day week-end?


I cleaned house and himself prepped the front porch ceiling for painting.



Posted by: ALH

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Picking up, chopping up and burning up tree branches from the winter. Halfway done, will be sore tomorrow. Hubby weed whacked.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 26, 2018 10:10 PM (RfzVr)

59 56

photoshop Trump on the Duke and fauxchahontus or hillary on O'hara.

or schumer


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (r+sAi)

Melania.

Posted by: davidt at May 26, 2018 10:11 PM (wUZ+I)

60 Teh local Wegmans now has beer tastings in store! (After I showed my ID, rather unlike when I vote.) Teh beer wench guilted me into buying a six of "Cerveza Modelo Negra"...

Not bad!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)
++++++++++
Wegman's is the *only* thing I miss about living in Upstate NY. Their deli was great.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:11 PM (hYcqw)

61 59 56

photoshop Trump on the Duke and fauxchahontus or hillary on O'hara.

or schumer


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (r+sAi)

Melania.
Posted by: davidt at May 26, 2018 10:11 PM (wUZ+I)

Obama

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:12 PM (cAj82)

62 Golden State just slashed HOU' s lead to 2 pts

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (4y8IQ)

63
maybe crybaby comey.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (r+sAi)

64 Can you imagine the #metoo tsunami if Charles Laughton was still around ? Thinking about Maureen

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (Ymy4N)

65 90% chance of rain on Monday. Darn. Guess I'll have to throw the ribs in the crockpot with sauerkraut.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (cAj82)

66 Redacted, Costco has Kirkland beans that are roasted by Starbucks. I haven't priced them lately, but they were significantly cheaper than the name brand.

Posted by: Drink like Vikings at May 26, 2018 10:14 PM (YLycA)

67 So how did you all spend the first day of your three day week-end?
I cleaned house and himself prepped the front porch ceiling for painting.
Posted by: ALH
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Went out for breakfast, got a haircut, bought and assembled some furniture, took a nap, did some reading.

Not a bad day, all things considered.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:14 PM (hYcqw)

68 Thanks to commenter Blutarski-esque for suggesting a reread of "The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon". It is from 2004, I was pretty new to the HQ and wasn't sure what to think except that Ace was a hell of a funny writer and a pretty sick, disgusting individual. This go round I still laughed till I had a coughing fit. Some stuff never gets old. It is first up in the sidebar "Greatest Hitjobs".

Interesting to see how much this place has grown since then. It took 39 minutes for there to be a first comment and total comments was under 100 even after several weeks.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (RfzVr)

69 "Cerveza Modelo Negra"...

Not bad!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)

Grew up drinking it in TX. One of my favs
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (Ymy4N)




A wonderful beer, best served near-freezing, and poured S L O W L Y into a frozen beer mug, fresh out of the freezer.

Pour it faster than slowly, and it'll foam over on ya.

Served in that frozen mug, it is one of the smoothest beers you'll ever enjoy. And the flavor is superb, as well.

Amazing, as it comes from the same company that produces that awful beer-colored water called "Corona".

Real beer does NOT need a citrus shoved up it's ass to be palatable.

And a pox on the servers and patrons who REFLEXIVELY stuff a slice of lime into ANY Mexican beer, just cause they're acting like trained seals who think "Mexican Beer = Lime".

Cause that's what the see in bars and commercials.

Without ever checking in with their own damned palates.

Fucking trendaholics. I despise them.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (QzJWU)

70 Went out for breakfast, got a haircut, bought and assembled some furniture, took a nap, did some reading.

Not a bad day, all things considered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:14 PM (hYcqw)

What kind of furniture?

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (cAj82)

71 What kind of furniture?
Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (cAj82)
An inversion table. Family member threw out his back, was recommended.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:16 PM (hYcqw)

72 66 Redacted, Costco has Kirkland beans that are roasted by Starbucks. I haven't priced them lately, but they were significantly cheaper than the name brand.
Posted by: Drink like Vikings at May 26, 2018 10:14 PM (YLycA)

Nearest costco, one hour five minutes. Any other suggestions ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:16 PM (Ymy4N)

73 Wegman's is the *only* thing I miss about living in Upstate NY. Their deli was great.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:11 PM

How did you escape? I've been held captive* here for over a dozen years now...
*largely because the lovely and long-suffering Mrs Roshia-no Botto actually likes it here -- her family, and all... When the last of Teh Spawn are done with skool, it's back to Maine!!!!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:17 PM (e9G8E)

74
1) Ran down to Lake Jackson to get ethanol-free gas for the tractor.

2) Assembled shelving unit for the tool room.

3) Assembled shelving unit for the garage.

4) Hauled a ton of stuff down to the road for anyone to pick up.

5) Hauled a ton of stuff from the tool room to the garage.

6) Showered, dressed and headed into town for dinner.

7) Did the week's shopping.

Got the dogs put up before storms hit.

9) Gabapentin and bed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 10:18 PM (QixYx)

75 @ ALH.

That porch ceiling. Gonna paint it ha'ant blue?

Or Guards Red?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:18 PM (QzJWU)

76 An inversion table. Family member threw out his back, was recommended.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:16 PM (hYcqw)

I had to look that up. Interesting. You'll have to let me know if it works.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:18 PM (cAj82)

77 Real beer does NOT need a citrus shoved up it's ass to be palatable.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

Why you put lime?! Is beer, not fruit salad!

Posted by: Khan Supenusenpone at May 26, 2018 10:18 PM (f3MDZ)

78 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:18 PM (QzJWU)

Haint blue for the win!

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 10:19 PM (cAj82)

79 Top ten , Birches.
And if i fail,whoa eupn ghox bout to senttint raptor retribution.

Ans Ispelld 'retriuyio\
U know you're fucked when you can't eve understand my posts.

faeegnugin.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2018 10:20 PM (0ogQG)

80 The only time food should have contact with the human body in the preparation process (other than with latex gloved hands) is when it's raw fish on the belly of a woman at a high end sushi joint.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 10:21 PM (/qEW2)

81 Somebody should send one of those heavy-duty shredders to Mueller. He needs all the help he can get in destroying evidence against him (and exculpatory evidence against his victims).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:21 PM (hYcqw)

82 Where do I get a shredder like that? Not only does that look like serious fun, it's awfully practical, too.

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2018 10:21 PM (c/EDo)

83 "Cerveza Modelo Negra"...

An all-time Miklos favorite.

My other favorite Mexican beer is the local Yucatan brew Montejo, named after the conquistador family of that region.

I have noticed that they no longer use their old slogan- "El Sabor que Conquista".

Posted by: Malty Miklos at May 26, 2018 10:22 PM (zCyNd)

84 Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (QzJWU)

---Citrus in beer is not a sin, but it should be the choice of the consumer.

I do love shandy this time of the year.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:22 PM (e7oj4)

85 Amazing, as it comes from the same company that produces that awful beer-colored water called "Corona".

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (QzJWU)


When I was stationed in Arizona in the 80's, I used to shoot pool at this hole in the wall bar off base. One night, one of the civilians I worked with pointed to the glass doored beer cooler and asked me if I noticed anything funny about the Corona. It took a minute or so but I suddenly noticed that the level of beer in each bottle was different. Serious quality control there!!

Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 10:22 PM (IuYIh)

86 What did I do today?

Coffee
Kettlebell workout (Gainzz!)
Made delicious omelet for Mrs. Blutarski
Weird Dave's links
Salmon on the new Blackstone grill (I love it)
War movies
Liqueur store
More war movies
Walk hell hounds
More Salmon, this time for Mrs. Blutarski
Movie thread, plus from here to eternity
ONT

Life is good.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 10:23 PM (+Tibp)

87 Got to find a replacement for my Starbucks house blend beans. When they go on sale for 4.99 for a 12 oz bag, I always buy a few months worth. Never can pass it up but can't do it anymore. phuckers
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (Ymy4N)

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I buy Dunkin Donuts Dark Roast @ 3 16 oz. bags for $19.99.

Good stuff, and as far as I know, apolitical.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at May 26, 2018 10:23 PM (I16G8)

88 The only time food should have contact with the human body in the preparation process (other than with latex gloved hands) is when it's raw fish on the belly of a woman at a high end sushi joint.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 10:21 PM (/qEW2)

How would you know which part is the fish?

Anyway, I'm game.

Posted by: Trigglypuff the WARRIOR at May 26, 2018 10:23 PM (zCyNd)

89 Cerveza Modelo Negra


*******

Man that takes me back. I haven't had a Negra Modelo since elementary school!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:23 PM (mvenn)

90 Miklos, I love dark Modelo in my chili.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)

91 Posted by: Trigglypuff the WARRIOR

Nobody wants that warrior to come out and play.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:24 PM (f3MDZ)

92 90 outside.

80 inside.

Pookette's cousins are supposed to sleep here overnight (if they can sleep).

Blown fuses on Memorial Day weekend SUCK.

Posted by: pookysgirl loves her kittehs, even when they throw up on white carpet at May 26, 2018 10:25 PM (PHGWd)

93 Negra Modelo is a decent beer on tap

Most Mexican restaurants in Columbus (and we have some pretty good ones) have the same Mexican beers on tap:

Pacifico
Dos Equis (Amber and Lager)
Tecate
Corona
Modelo Especial
Negra Modelo

Negra Modelo is my favorite of these, followed by Dos Equis lager. Tecate sux

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:25 PM (oAY8z)

94 Leon Negra > Modelo Negra

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 26, 2018 10:25 PM (L+pr4)

95 ...---Citrus in beer is not a sin....

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:22 PM (e70j4)



I understand those words but not those words in that order.

*shudder*

*pulls Open In Case Of Emergency tab on 16 oz can of Guiness Stout*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:26 PM (QzJWU)

96 McClintock was about giving Patrick Wayne a role besides his lame Sinbad series, and it was a break out role for a very young Stefanie Powers, and Wayne was generous in that regard.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:26 PM (yNyJy)

97 How did you escape? I've been held captive* here for over a dozen years now...
*largely because the lovely and long-suffering Mrs Roshia-no Botto actually likes it here -- her family, and all... When the last of Teh Spawn are done with skool, it's back to Maine!!!!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:17 PM (e9G8E)
+++++++++++
No work, and I wasn't a native. I went there for school, tried to make a go of it there (a girl was involved). Eventually, I told the girlfriend I was going to move back home (Rocky Mountain West) and look for work and I'd let her know when I found it. She stayed, but I had forgotten how great it was to live in the West. There's work out here and people are pretty pleasant. For example, when I get told to "have a nice day" I kinda feel like folks mean it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:26 PM (hYcqw)

98 ghost, I still remember the ads for Tecate "with lime and salt."

Sounds as if even they were kinda/sorta admitting it's crappy, and buyers should try and turn it into a margarita-style drink when they have it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:26 PM (eMKNe)

99 Blown fuses on Memorial Day weekend SUCK.
Posted by: pookysgirl loves her kittehs, even when they throw up on white carpet at May 26, 2018 10:25 PM (PHGWd)


Not to be That Guy, but isn't that easy enough to remedy?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:26 PM (fZuhk)

100 Also, Bud Light is coming out with their own shandies: Orange and Lemon. Yeah, that'll work out great...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

101 59 56

photoshop Trump on the Duke and fauxchahontus or hillary on O'hara.

or schumer


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (r+sAi)

Melania.

Posted by: davidt at May 26, 2018 10:11 PM (wUZ+I)

++++

Should be someone that Trump has kind of a frenemy relationship with. Like a woman in the media, not bad looking, someone who generally opposes him, but isn't totally hateful towards him. Is willing to smile at him as she tries to ask a gotcha question. If such a creature exists.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:27 PM (pvjTE)

102 There are two Negras left. I've popped one in the freezer to try it with a bit of slush... And now, I wait...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:27 PM (e9G8E)

103 Or is it lime? Oh well.
I love limeade, btw.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

104 Hadrian, I have to ask, was the gabapentin for the dogs or for you?!

Posted by: Moki at May 26, 2018 10:28 PM (V+V48)

105 Negra Modelo is teh aw350me.... especially as Jim proposed.

it's the ONLY one to drink W/Mex/Tex-Mex/Kinda sorta Mex food.

IMNSHO, of course.


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2018 10:28 PM (xN9Bo)

106 Miklos, I love dark Modelo in my chili.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)

The carrot in the top of the bottle is for DISPLAY PURPOSES ONLY!

Posted by: Don Miklos de Hacienda Molnar at May 26, 2018 10:29 PM (zCyNd)

107 I'm enjoying a cherry gin, sold by a local distillery. It's good, I like it. There's an Irish nursery rhyme on the bottle..
One for sorrow,
Two for Mirth,
Three for funerals,
Four for birth.

I suppose that's where the panty remover element comes in.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 10:29 PM (nBr1j)

108 Man that takes me back. I haven't had a Negra Modelo since elementary school!
Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:23 PM (mvenn)

That's what we called it when I was a pup. Negra Modelo. Great with gas station tacos in the 70's. That was eating

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:30 PM (Ymy4N)

109 Amazing, as it comes from the same company that produces that awful beer-colored water called "Corona".
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:15 PM (QzJWU)
+++++++++
Inexperienced me like Corona the first time. It is very much *not* hard to do better. I watch "Fast and Furious" movies for their sheer comedic value (The fast-forward button is mandatory, but the "plot" and "acting" get more ludicrous with every episode in the franchise.) I don't think there has ever been a franchise that flogs shitty beer as aggressively as F&F. The Corona sponsorship went from "kinda subtle" to "beating you about the face and neck" over time. There was a scene basically dedicated to the stuff in one of the recent installments.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:30 PM (hYcqw)

110 ah, beer slush, so good on a hot day but so frustrating...the harder you try to rush getting it out of the container, the worse you make it

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:30 PM (oAY8z)

111 Miklos, no carrots in my chili.

Now anchovies OTOH... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:30 PM (eMKNe)

112 Personally, my favorite Beaner brew is Sol.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:30 PM (e7oj4)

113 Leon Negra > Modelo Negra

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 26, 2018 10:25 PM (L+pr4)

Requires further validation.

*considers next grant funding opportunity*

Posted by: Don Miklos, porque sciencia! at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM (zCyNd)

114 Wow, a fuse on my A/C went out too but got a replacement at HD this AM so A/C is running again but it ain't cooling worth a tinker's dam. Think it may need some more Freon charging, so that won't come until after the holiday, ack. So I am sitting here sweating & typing in my birthday suit, trying to think cool thoughts ;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM (yNyJy)

115 I still remember those 15 minutes in the 1990s when Sierra Nevada was really popular...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM (eMKNe)

116 Or is it lime? Oh well.
I love limeade, btw.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

"Put the lime in the coconut..."

Was that Harry Belafonte or Lois Farrakhan?

Posted by: Miklos will stick with bourbon, 'cause that's what he gots at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (zCyNd)

117 Anyone else tried those Doritos Blaze chips?

(No, Glenn Beck's face isn't on the bag.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (eMKNe)

118 90 Miklos, I love dark Modelo in my chili.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)

Blasphemy, I'm gonna sick Hot Dog on your ass

Posted by: Stanley Marsh lll at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (Ymy4N)

119 Miklos, Harry Nilsson.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (eMKNe)

120 One for sorrow,
Two for Mirth,
Three for funerals,
Four for birth.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 10:29 PM (nBr1j)


Well. The four for birth is just a two for mirth, but it's a double because you're drinking for two.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:34 PM (fZuhk)

121 On the topic of beer, has anyone else noticed the weird regionalism in beer? I like porters, but CO's Front Range does *not.* This is IPA town - everyone has half a dozen IPAs but we have something of a porter drought. I was in Portland, OR a few years ago and you couldn't swing a cat without hitting several good porters - but you were SOL if you wanted a good amber.

And on that topic, what porters do y'all like (if you like porters, obviously)?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:34 PM (hYcqw)

122 Gabapentin and bed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 10:18 PM (QixYx)
----
I wish I had some of that. I'm in agony.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2018 10:34 PM (UiRxW)

123 115 I still remember those 15 minutes in the 1990s when Sierra Nevada was really popular...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM (eMKNe)

I think there's still an old Sierra Nevada t-shirt in my rag bin.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 10:34 PM (ANIFC)

124 A beer I tend to see a lot of at supermarkets here in SoCal, is something called 805. Made in the Paso Robles area, I believe (where the area code is, you guessed it).

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:35 PM (eMKNe)

125 (No, Glenn Beck's face isn't on the bag.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (eMKNe)
+++++++
Probably a good move. I doubt that would move much product.

Maybe there's a niche, though. There's got to be some kind of sponsorship opportunity for Bill Kristol.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:35 PM (hYcqw)

126 son of Schmilsson

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:35 PM (oAY8z)

127 ...Anyone else tried those Doritos Blaze chips?

(No, Glenn Beck's face isn't on the bag.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (eMKNe)




Duh, his face is IN the bag, munching away at Mach Sicks!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:35 PM (QzJWU)

128 Sierra Nevada beer is bitter, or maybe it's just my delicate feminine taste. My favorite beer is New Belgian's Fat Tire. Actually any of NB series is good.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (yNyJy)

129 Joe Mannix, Kristol chips! They're all brittle, transparent and flavorless. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (eMKNe)

130 Wow, a fuse on my A/C went out too but got a replacement at HD this AM so A/C is running again but it ain't cooling worth a tinker's dam. Think it may need some more Freon charging, so that won't come until after the holiday, ack. So I am sitting here sweating & typing in my birthday suit, trying to think cool thoughts ;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM (yNyJy)

In a Roald Dahl post, somebody would be dead by the end.

Posted by: Miklos,avoiding the garden at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (zCyNd)

131 "now he's a poof!
he drinks lager and lime. . ."

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (4y8IQ)

132 I don't doubt that there's better Mexican beers than Negra Modelo, but I'm talking the commonly found drafts

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (oAY8z)

133 Jim, I've never seen someone so good at crying and eating at the same time...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (eMKNe)

134 Sierra Nevada beer is bitter, or maybe it's just my delicate feminine taste. My favorite beer is New Belgian's Fat Tire. Actually any of NB series is good.
Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (yNyJy)
++++++++
Their "1554" is quite good, if you like dark, chewy beer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (hYcqw)

135 Maybe there's a niche, though. There's got to be some kind of sponsorship opportunity for Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Maybe a line of sea biscuits?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (f3MDZ)

136 Negra Modelo is nice and thick, with a head* to die for.

*Okay, let's go ahead and get started with the 'head' jokes...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (eMKNe)

137 so the rockets have decided they're tired of #winning. feh.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (4y8IQ)

138 So I am sitting here sweating typing in my birthday suit, trying to think cool thoughts ;^)


Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM


I'm listening. Go on...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (e9G8E)

139 IPA drinkers are Imperialists of Pallor!!!!

Posted by: Friends of Mary from Brattleboro at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (zCyNd)

140 Nope, hogmartin, because every time Pooky swaps out a fuse things get worse. We knew we'd have to get an electrician in here to redo the fuse boxes, but that was supposed to be a "in a month or so" project, not an emergency project. We're calling an electrician tomorrow, but at least it's a family friend so hopefully we won't get screwed over too badly.

Posted by: pookysgirl loves her kittehs, even when they throw up on white carpet at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (PHGWd)

141 Maybe there's a niche, though. There's got to be some kind of sponsorship opportunity for Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:35 PM (hYcqw)
----
They already tried olestra. Didn't work out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (UiRxW)

142 *Okay, let's go ahead and get started with the 'head' jokes...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (eMKNe)
+++++++
Beer is the only reliable head I get!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (hYcqw)

143 136 Negra Modelo is nice and thick, with a head* to die for.

*Okay, let's go ahead and get started with the 'head' jokes...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (eMKNe)

--Last barmaid I had didn't pour any head.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (e7oj4)

144 Friends of Mary, I hear Mrs. B still has a couple dozen bottles of Ripple Red in her basement...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:39 PM (eMKNe)

145 *Okay, let's go ahead and get started with the 'head' jokes...
Posted by: qdpsteve

Very funny asshole!

Posted by: Marie Antoinette at May 26, 2018 10:39 PM (f3MDZ)

146 This is IPA town - everyone has half a dozen IPAs but we have something of a porter drought.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:34 PM (hYcqw)


IPA is kind of brewing in easy mode, if I recall correctly. You're hopping it to hell and back so you can cover up any number of oopsies. Pale Pilsen types, like the generally-reviled mass-market domestics, are actually really tough to do consistently well because everything's right up front.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:39 PM (fZuhk)

147 84-76, GSW over HOU after three.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:39 PM (hYcqw)

148 72 66 Redacted, Costco has Kirkland beans that are roasted by Starbucks. I haven't priced them lately, but they were significantly cheaper than the name brand.
Posted by: Drink like Vikings at May 26, 2018 10:14 PM (YLycA)

Nearest costco, one hour five minutes. Any other suggestions ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:16 PM (Ymy4N)

++++

Shop online.

https://www.costco.com/coffee-sweeteners.html?keyword
=Whole+Bean+Coffee&autosugg=true&dept=All

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:39 PM (pvjTE)

149 I'm an IPA lover

IPAs are my favorite

I'm a cliche'

and I don't care

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (oAY8z)

150 When I was a kid in the 60's, we go down to Acuna and they would have draft Negra Modelo. Ordering one when you were 15 was a trip. Among other things

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (Ymy4N)

151 They already tried olestra. Didn't work out.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Ah yes, memories. Now there was a doomed ad campaign. "The brown trail makes you easier to find by your friends!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (eMKNe)

152 My bullseye for beers tends to run towards the (real import, not the brewed in USA fake) Newcastle Ale, Negra Modelo, and other hearty ales.

Lagers, I want the real import (not brewed by Molson in Canada) Sapporo from Japan, as a "best of" example.

Local brewery "Saloon Door", just up the road a wee bit in Webster, TX, has outrageously great examples of both.

I'll have to make the drive up Monday for a growler of each.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (QzJWU)

153 BebeDahl

You're making me hot around the collar.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (hyuyC)

154 .Anyone else tried those Doritos Blaze chips?

(No, Glenn Beck's face isn't on the bag.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:33 PM (eMKNe)


"Man, Beck was eatin' Doritos like Nabisco needed their bags back..."

Posted by: This is war, Mitchell!! at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (zCyNd)

155
I liked McLintock! It was a lighthearted departure from most of his other movies. Not that any of them were bad.
Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (IuYIh)

--McClintock! and The Cowboys are the shit.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:07 PM (e7oj4)






McClintock! is my second fav Duke film, after Rio Bravo.

It's also Duke's most political film. And unlike the commie cocksuckers in Hollywood, he did it without making a non-entertaining film or being heavy-handed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (eXA4G)

156 *fistbump*

Posted by: Charles Stewart at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (4y8IQ)

157 Marie, go eat cake! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (eMKNe)

158 poor head is better than no head

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (oAY8z)

159 149 I'm an IPA lover

IPAs are my favorite

I'm a cliche'

and I don't care
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (oAY8z)

--The IPA at Spinnaker's in Victoria, BC . . . awesome.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (e7oj4)

160 They already tried olestra. Didn't work out.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (UiRxW)
++++++++
Maybe Haribo can rebrand their GI-tract-destroying sugar substitute for him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (hYcqw)

161 Shop online.

https://www.costco.com/coffee-sweeteners.html?keyword
=Whole+Bean+Coffee&autosugg=true&dept=All
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:39 PM (pvjTE)

Nearest computer, one hour five minutes

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (Ymy4N)

162 No beer tonight, it's too hot for alcohol since my A/C isn't up to par with the heat & humidity.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (yNyJy)

163 Time to turn in.

Have a great night, everyone. May you brag about your night.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (hyuyC)

164 We're calling an electrician tomorrow, but at least it's a family friend so hopefully we won't get screwed over too badly.
Posted by: pookysgirl loves her kittehs, even when they throw up on white carpet at May 26, 2018 10:38 PM (PHGWd)


Aw, sorry

I guess if it was that easy it'd be fixed already.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (fZuhk)

165 They already tried olestra. Didn't work out.

?! Some sort of recall? Is there something I should know?

Posted by: Hillary! at May 26, 2018 10:43 PM (5OO3x)

166 162 No beer tonight, it's too hot for alcohol since my A/C isn't up to par with the heat & humidity.
Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (yNyJy)


But obviously not too hot for drugs. Whadda u , nuts ??

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:43 PM (Ymy4N)

167 I guess I can tell this story now...

A few weeks ago, walking up to the building where I work, I had an 'Olestra moment.' (And it was right in front of a 7-Eleven, too.)

Had to go home, shower and return to work. Lost about an hour.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:43 PM (eMKNe)

168 Bill Kristol is made of olestra and lycasin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2018 10:44 PM (UiRxW)

169 160 They already tried olestra. Didn't work out.


Somebody should lace Hillary's gin with Olestra. It would be spectacular.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 10:44 PM (nBr1j)

170
McClintock! is my second fav Duke film, after Rio Bravo.

It's also Duke's most political film. And unlike the commie cocksuckers in Hollywood, he did it without making a non-entertaining film or being heavy-handed.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (eXA4G)

One of my fav Duke movies is very seldom seen on TV anymore...

Donovan's Reef...

Very non PC...

Posted by: Obi Don Quixote at May 26, 2018 10:44 PM (NgKpN)

171 ?! Some sort of recall? Is there something I should know?
Posted by: Hillary! at May 26, 2018 10:43 PM (5OO3x)
+++++++++
Be careful, Mrs. Clinton. With your health the way it is, you can ill-afford that kind of risk taking. Just crack open another bottle of cheap gin - you don't want to disrupt your internal chemical balance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:44 PM (hYcqw)

172 So I am sitting here sweating typing in my birthday suit, trying to think cool thoughts ;^)


Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM

"When the mercury rises, I write prose in my underwear, and poetry in the alltogether"

-H.L. Mencken (from memory)

Posted by: H. L. Miklos at May 26, 2018 10:45 PM (zCyNd)

173 I actually recently finally found a sugar-free candy I really like:

Sugar Free Chik-O-Stik nuggets in a bag, made by a company called Atkinson. (Not sure if they're related to Atkins.) Made with Splenda, and they were nice and sweet and crunchy and tasty. Mmmm.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)

174 Joe, at this stage Hillary's more gin than woman.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)

175 Donovan's Reef? I swear I watched that yesterday on a movie channel.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 10:46 PM (+Tibp)

176 Bill Kristol is keeping his joints glued together with chamber of commerce help. like in DeathBecomesHer but with semen.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (4y8IQ)

177 130 Wow, a fuse on my A/C went out too but got a replacement at HD this AM so A/C is running again but it ain't cooling worth a tinker's dam. Think it may need some more Freon charging, so that won't come until after the holiday, ack. So I am sitting here sweating & typing in my birthday suit, trying to think cool thoughts ;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:31 PM (yNyJy)

In a Roald Dahl post, somebody would be dead by the end.
Posted by: Miklos,avoiding the garden at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (zCyNd)

Internet rule...

Pics or it didn't happen....

Posted by: Obi Don Quixote at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (NgKpN)

178 I liked McLintock! It was a lighthearted departure from most of his other movies. Not that any of them were bad.

I guess you haven't seen 'The Conqueror.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (oVJmc)

179 FA = Fecal Accident

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (oAY8z)

180 No beer tonight, it's too hot for alcohol since my A/C isn't up to par with the heat & humidity.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (yNyJy)

YER DOIN IT RONG

Posted by: The people of New Orleans, chere at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (zCyNd)

181 176 Bill Kristol is keeping his joints glued together with chamber of commerce help. like in DeathBecomesHer but with semen.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (4y8IQ)
+++++++++
Brutal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (hYcqw)

182 Too hot for alcohol?

What the bloody hell?!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:47 PM (e9G8E)

183 Daughter, SIL, and 2 oldest grandkids arrived last evening just before a glorious thunderstorm. Took them on a 2 hour drive through rolling back roads of lovely Iowa to Sabula, Iowa. Sabula is the only inhabited Iowa island in the Big Muddy and we had great pizza and beer (except the younger grandson) at a funky place called Bombfest. Drove back to our little rural sanctuary and played cards with a lot of catching up converation. Everyone hit the sack early except me.

BTW, I don't keep up with every little thing here, but am I correct in thinking insomniac has disappeared? Hope all is well with him.

Posted by: colfax mingo at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (FoFVZ)

184 Somebody should lace Hillary's gin with Olestra. It would be spectacular.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem.


Overheard in Martha's Vineyard: "Who's that brown blob stumbling around?!?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (eMKNe)

185 Nearest computer, one hour five minutes

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:42 PM (Ymy4N)

++++

Heh. That must make it tough to keep up with this forum.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (pvjTE)

186 Joe, at this stage Hillary's more gin than woman.
Posted by: qdpsteve

An alcohol fueled robot. She may as well change her name to Bender Bending Rodriguez.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (f3MDZ)

187 It's also Duke's most political film. And unlike the commie cocksuckers in Hollywood, he did it without making a non-entertaining film or being heavy-handed.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 10:41 PM (eXA4G)
----
Here, here. Agreed, well except that part about, well, uh, isn't commie c*cksuckas like a double negative;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (yNyJy)

188 Beer is like pizza to me. Some are better than others but it's hard to be bad. Hot summer day and any beer on the planet will be delicious.

Posted by: #neverskankles at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (pJWZ4)

189 Also, I think the Duke is spanking Capucine. But I understand the confusion.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 10:49 PM (+Tibp)

190 I miss the hell out of Wegmans since moving to Colorado. Nothing but Safeway and King Soopers here. Wegmans would do great here too.

Week after next I'll be in Buffalo on business and I'm shipping myself home a Wegmans care package.

Posted by: The Wolf at May 26, 2018 10:49 PM (pxOl8)

191 An alcohol fueled robot. She may as well change her name to Bender Bending Rodriguez.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (f3MDZ)
+++++
Except that she lacks his mischievousness, irreverence and humor. He's a piker compared to her in the crime department, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:49 PM (hYcqw)

192 The funny thing is, if the fuses were slightly different, we'd have no problem since Pooky used to do this sort of thing all the time in the USAF. But, no, we got some "damn civilian fuses!" And I would be in my birthday suit but I've got four kids between myself and our bedroom. Sorry, Morons and Bob From NSA!

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 26, 2018 10:49 PM (PHGWd)

193 Disregard. It's McLintock and not North to Alaska. I stand down on that last post.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 10:50 PM (+Tibp)

194 Joe, at this stage Hillary's more gin than woman.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Mumbai Gin.

Posted by: Miklos, culturally basz meg sensitive at May 26, 2018 10:50 PM (zCyNd)

195 I know you don't want to ask Hillary what her favorite card game is... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)

196 167 I guess I can tell this story now...

A few weeks ago, walking up to the building where I work, I had an 'Olestra moment.' (And it was right in front of a 7-Eleven, too.)

Had to go home, shower and return to work. Lost about an hour.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:43 PM (eMKNe)

I saw William Shatner live the other week, and he had the same thing happen to him - at the debut of his Broadway one man show. Food poisoning the night before.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (ANIFC)

197 josephistan, yup.

Talk about 'shit happens.'

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:52 PM (eMKNe)

198 I know you don't want to ask Hillary what her favorite card game is... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)


Certainly not euchre. On election night, she couldn't be bothered to call trump.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:52 PM (fZuhk)

199 I saw William Shatner live the other week, and he had the same thing happen to him - at the debut of his Broadway one man show. Food poisoning the night before.
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (ANIFC)
+++++++++++++
https://youtu.be/73tjF0bzAi4

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:52 PM (hYcqw)

200 I know you don't want to ask Hillary what her favorite card game is... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)

Acey-Deucy.

Posted by: Huma at May 26, 2018 10:52 PM (zCyNd)

201 I used to call gin panty remover. I hate to think about panty remover and Hillary Clinton together.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 10:53 PM (nBr1j)

202 198 I know you don't want to ask Hillary what her favorite card game is... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)

Certainly not euchre. On election night, she couldn't be bothered to call trump.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:52 PM (fZuhk)

This thread is won. Good night folks.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 10:53 PM (ANIFC)

203 I know you don't want to ask Hillary what her favorite card game is... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)
++++++
I'm guessing it isn't "Top Trumps"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:53 PM (hYcqw)

204 After each biscuit is cut, I just slap it here against my belt buckle which bears the
Navy insignia.

Horrified the Admiral exclaims, "That's very unhygienic!"

The Chief shrugs and replies, "Well, If that's the way you feel, sir, I suggest you avoid the donuts.


========

There are several variations of this joke, as there are for most jokes. This brings up an issue with ancient texts such as the bible. In Genesis there are 3 accounts of a patriarch who visits a foreign land with his wife, taken into custody by the king, and to protect his life lies and says "She's not my wife, she's my sister". The king almost seduces her but is warned by God that she is already married.

This happens twice with Abraham and Sarah and once with Isaac and Rebekah. Could that have happened three times? Maybe, the world was different then. But the accounts all have slight (or not so slight) differences. It's led some to believe that there was an effort to collate various sacred stories into Genesis, and the hypothetical compiler of it had several versions of the same story. And not knowing which was definitive, just decided to put them all in. I don't know if this is true or not but it's an interesting conjecture since we have modern examples which seem to bear similarities as to how stories get modified. That of course assumes the secular view that there must be a naturalistic explanation for the text.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 10:53 PM (/qEW2)

205 Yeah alcohol does not refresh me at all when it's blazing hot outside, it makes me even more uncomfortable. I can only drink seasonally, mostly in the winter. Always been that way.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:54 PM (yNyJy)

206 This is funny.

https://youtu.be/cYlf23dRakk

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 10:54 PM (+Tibp)

207 Bridge, not walls!!!

Posted by: *hic!* at May 26, 2018 10:54 PM (zCyNd)

208 I miss Hannafords and Shaws in Maine... Wegmans will have to do! (Better than Weis, Price Chopper, or Aldi!)


There actually is a Hannafords not too far away from the Zettaibunker in Upstate Newyorkistan... I never been there.

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 10:54 PM (e9G8E)

209 Actually, I read Hillary's fave card game is blackjack.

Whenever she loses, she pummels the winner with her blackjack.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:55 PM (eMKNe)

210 That of course assumes the secular view that there must be a naturalistic explanation for the text.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 10:53 PM (/qEW2)

We're talking bagels, right?

Posted by: Rebbi Miklos at May 26, 2018 10:56 PM (zCyNd)

211 Hey guys. I need to ask y'all a question: What can you tell me about James Allsup? Is he in the Richard Spencer mold, or is he just an activist college Republican? Little from column A, little from column B? If so, how much from each?
Trying to get a feel here. Little is now interested in politics, and he's definitely on the right side of the aisle, but I want to make sure he doesn't get seduced by the dark side, IYKWIM. He showed me a video of this dude reporting on an Antifa protest, now I need to find out where he stands so I can properly talk about him.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (vFKpB)

212 Always the designated driver for my gal pals in the summer, woe is me.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (yNyJy)

213

We have just had the most violent storm I have ever experienced here. The overhead garage door was vibrating. A lightning bolt hit and split a tree out front. Scary.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (eM8BP)

214 One of my fav Duke movies is very seldom seen on TV anymore...

Donovan's Reef...

Very non PC...
Posted by: Obi Don Quixote at May 26, 2018 10:44 PM

I bought it on DVD so I can watch it at Christmas. Lee Marvin in the Christmas pageant is a hoot.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (/+bwe)

215 Hey, Bebe's has a new nic!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (eMKNe)

216 Well know that Hillary did NOT reach the pinochle of success.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (mvenn)

217 Hadrian: God knows what you did last summer...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (eMKNe)

218 We have just had the most violent storm I have ever experienced here.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (eM8BP)


Where is here?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (fZuhk)

219 An alcohol fueled robot. She may as well change her name to Bender Bending Rodriguez.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (f3MDZ)


Gin? I'm using that for enemas.

Posted by: Hills at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (sXefu)

220 https://youtu.be/cYlf23dRakk
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 10:54 PM (+Tibp)
+++++++
Ugh, robo-voice. Even poor speakers are usually better than robots. I don't know why people insist on using robo-voices. I am bombarded by them at work because so much of our training is made by our Indian office and people have trouble with the accents (and I guess being lulled to sleep by a synthetic monotone is preferable).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (hYcqw)

221 Gin? I'm using that for enemas.
Posted by: Hills at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (sXefu)


And she can STILL taste it!...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (eMKNe)

222 Hey guys. I need to ask y'all a question: What can you tell me about James Allsup? I
Posted by: Weirddave

Not a damn thing.
Hope that helps.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (f3MDZ)

223 speaking of semen, Houston sure blew this game

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (4y8IQ)

224 Bill refuses to play poke 'er with Hill.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (mvenn)

225 Beer is like pizza to me. Some are better than others but it's hard to be bad. Hot summer day and any beer on the planet will be delicious.

Posted by: #neverskankles at May 26, 2018 10:48 PM (pJWZ4)




There are Two Kinds of Beer.

The first, are the "Gourmet Beers." Flavorful, to be enjoyed on their own, or matched suitably with robust, tasty foods. Even on their own, after the meal, as the perfect post-prandial delight.

The second are "Lawnmower Beers."

These are the cold, wet and plentiful brews that one throws down past his or her own taste buds, in the haste to rapidly quench the thirst, sate the sobriety and otherwise both hydrate with the water-based brew, and dehydrate from the effects of the alcohol, logic be damned.

The Gourmet Beer Snobs look down upon the Lawnmower Swilling Cretins....but only, because the former pay illegal labor to Mow the Lawns that demand Quenching thus.

And the affcianados of the Lanmower Brews sneer likewise at the Gourmet Snobs, 'cause they know they're drunkifying mightly on but a fraction of the cost of the Upper Crust Suds, and some of the cheap stuff really ain't that bad, after all.

The wise Moron though, knows to gulp down the Busch when sweating it out on the lawn, and is yet wise enough to reward him or herself later, at the restaurant, over fajitas, frijoles and an icy cold Negra Modelo, as a well earned reward to a hard day's work.

This all though, is Trumped, by the glass poured of fine spirits, when one is safely home, the home is shut down for the nonce, and the cops won't pull you over whilst in your recliner.

In this mode now, I salute you all....

CHEERS, HORDE!

*clink!*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (QzJWU)

226 Well know that Hillary did NOT reach the pinochle of success.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (mvenn)
++++++
A Pinochet of success?!?!?!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:00 PM (hYcqw)

227 I just sent Popeye's a very negative report of my customer experience this evening.

FIGHT THE POWER!!!

Posted by: Miklos form la Nouvelle Orleans at May 26, 2018 11:00 PM (zCyNd)

228 Bebedahl is BBD?
:0

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:00 PM (e9G8E)

229 I FA'd when out walking my daughter years ago (she's now 13). Back then, she was in a stroller but old enough to talk. She kept asking why I kept stopping on our walk. I "held things together" until we got back to our house. Seriously, I could pick up a rock and hit my front door, but it was like my sphincter knew we were really close but couldn't wait. Most every time you make it to where you need to make it.

This time, not so much. I was literally unlocking the front door when things went pear-shaped.

A good half hour of cleanup

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 26, 2018 11:00 PM (oAY8z)

230 Well know that Hillary did NOT reach the pinochle of success.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (mvenn)

Yes, because she got Trumped.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 11:01 PM (cAj82)

231 I bought it on DVD so I can watch it at Christmas. Lee Marvin in the Christmas pageant is a hoot.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (/+bwe)


'Boats' Gilhooley has to be one of my all time favorite Lee Marvin characters.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 26, 2018 11:01 PM (sXefu)

232 speaking of semen, Houston sure blew this game
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (4y8IQ)


So they weren't ready to cum out and play tonight?

/sorry

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:01 PM (eMKNe)

233 Hillary: Old Maid?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:01 PM (e9G8E)

234 In this mode now, I salute you all....

CHEERS, HORDE!

*clink!*
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (QzJWU)
++++
Hear, hear!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:02 PM (hYcqw)

235 Hillary always told me her favorite game was Go Fish.

Posted by: Huma at May 26, 2018 11:02 PM (e7oj4)

236 Ghost, that's always fun.

I once had an accident on the way home from the casino after a big win. The extra cash helped my mood... but just barely.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:02 PM (eMKNe)

237 /sorry
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:01 PM (eMKNe)
+++++
Never apologize!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:02 PM (hYcqw)

238 Uno-ranium One?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:03 PM (e9G8E)

239 IPAs and Porters are my favorite styles. I'm blessed with a good selection of craft beers at Wegmans and Harris Teeter, so I usually grab something I haven't tried before. Haven't found a bad one yet. I think Anchor was my first porter long ago, like in the 90s. Danzig Baltic, Port City, Founders, Great Lakes are more recent ones.

Posted by: Drink like Vikings at May 26, 2018 11:03 PM (YLycA)

240 CHEERS, HORDE!

*clink!*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 10:59 PM (QzJWU)

--Well put, and my taste exactly, both for beer and music.

Posted by: Huma at May 26, 2018 11:04 PM (e7oj4)

241 Well know that Hillary did NOT reach the pinochle of success.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 10:58 PM (mvenn)
++++++
A Pinochet of success?!?!?!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Soon.

Posted by: The God-Emperor's Imperial Helicopter Corps. at May 26, 2018 11:04 PM (f3MDZ)

242 The wise Moron though, knows to gulp down the Busch when sweating it out on the lawn, and is yet wise enough to reward him or herself later, at the restaurant, over fajitas, frijoles and an icy cold Negra Modelo, as a well earned reward to a hard day's work.


I believe this is the essence of von Mises' explication of the fundamental nature of rational decision making.

Posted by: Miklos for, from, just words at May 26, 2018 11:04 PM (zCyNd)

243 /Muslim Bro-hood cunny

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 11:04 PM (e7oj4)

244 Soooo... Since my beer du jour is Modelo Negra, does that make me a beer snob?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:06 PM (e9G8E)

245 I never wanted to be a beer snob...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:07 PM (e9G8E)

246 Hillary always told me her favorite game was Go Fish.

Posted by: Huma at May 26, 2018 11:02 PM (e7oj4)


Bullshit. It's the Oregon High-Five, and you know it.

Posted by: Hills at May 26, 2018 11:07 PM (sXefu)

247 Since my beer du jour is Modelo Negra, does that make me a beer snob?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:06 PM (e9G8E)

Enjoy your Negra privilege.

Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at May 26, 2018 11:08 PM (zCyNd)

248 And I would be in my birthday suit but I've got four kids between myself and our bedroom. Sorry, Morons and Bob From NSA!
Posted by: pookysgirl at May 26, 2018 10:49 PM (PHGWd)
-----
Oh no girl. Well luckily I am alone except for my two dogs that seem oblivious to the view. And, I have had probably 15 short cold showers today just to try to get cool. And all my fans are running, I dread my electric bill.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:08 PM (yNyJy)

249 I'd rather be just a...

snob!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:08 PM (e9G8E)

250 Damn Jim, that was beautiful.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 26, 2018 11:09 PM (RfzVr)

251 Bullshit. It's the Oregon High-Five, and you know it.
Posted by: Hills at May 26, 2018 11:07 PM (sXefu)
+++++
I had to look that one up. Never underestimate human inventiveness when it comes to deviancy...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:09 PM (hYcqw)

252 And, I have had probably 15 short cold showers today
just to try to get cool. And all my fans are running, I dread my
electric bill.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:08 PM


How cold were they, Bebe?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:10 PM (e9G8E)

253 What was that about gulping down sweaty bush?

Posted by: Huma at May 26, 2018 11:10 PM (YLycA)

254 Enjoy your Negra privilege.
Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at May 26, 2018 11:08 PM (zCyNd)
--------
Now that's funny, grin.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:10 PM (yNyJy)

255 228 Bebedahl is BBD?
:0
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:00 PM (e9G8E)

What the fuck? NO!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:11 PM (gQQ9b)

256 Man, that turned around. GSW went from -17 to +29. 115-86 final, GSW over HOU.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:11 PM (hYcqw)

257 I found a series of videos on YooToob that's way entertaining than it has any right to be. This guy takes those old Peanuts cartoons and makes classic rock music videos out of them.

Here's Pat Benatar's Hit Me With Your Best Shot...
https://youtu.be/2czxzFVfXy0

Here's How Deep Is Your Love by The Bee Gees...
https://youtu.be/whOrsMXsn3s

Here's Heart's Barracuda...
https://youtu.be/QlqV3nm6Lrk

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 26, 2018 11:11 PM (wSC8T)

258 I went to store for hamburger rolls, found Wimmers skinless hot dogs on sale, found pork chops two for the price of one, discovered at check out stand that pork chops were not two for the price of one, removed pork chops from bag and got refund. Made deviled eggs. Made cream cheese and onion dip. Made supper.

It's too damn hot to do anything else. Of course, the heat is supposed to break Tuesday. Big whup!

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 26, 2018 11:11 PM (eNyDO)

259 211 Hey guys. I need to ask y'all a question: What can you tell me about James Allsup? Is he in the Richard Spencer mold, or is he just an activist college Republican? Little from column A, little from column B? If so, how much from each?
Trying to get a feel here. Little is now interested in politics, and he's definitely on the right side of the aisle, but I want to make sure he doesn't get seduced by the dark side, IYKWIM. He showed me a video of this dude reporting on an Antifa protest, now I need to find out where he stands so I can properly talk about him.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (vFKpB)

++++

His Wiki page is interesting. They look like they want to call him a white supremacist, but since he overtly denies it, they just hint.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Allsup

If I really wanted to familiarize myself with him, I'd start watching his videos at his Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/jamesallsupyt

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:12 PM (pvjTE)

260 Shredder - No Mister Bill? I'm disappointed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:12 PM (FJXGr)

261
Props to the toilet seat lid for putting up the best struggle against the shredder. Overall, though, that was a dumb video.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 11:12 PM (NoLse)

262 I've got a serious decision to make. If I have another gin I'll get all chatty and shit. Should I risk it?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 11:13 PM (nBr1j)

263 How cold were they, Bebe?
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:10 PM (e9G8E)
-------
As cold as I could stand without throwing my body into shock. Plus I don't dry, the flipping the fans can do that. Drippy cranky Bebe;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:13 PM (yNyJy)

264 227 I just sent Popeye's a very negative report of my customer experience this evening.

FIGHT THE POWER!!!
Posted by: Miklos



LOL

Posted by: booknlass at May 26, 2018 11:13 PM (uJ09Y)

265 So how did you all spend the first day of your three day week-end?
Getting a candlestick phone to work with a VoIP switch.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:14 PM (IcT7t)

266 I've got a serious decision to make. If I have another gin I'll get all chatty and shit. Should I risk it?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 11:13 PM (nBr1j)
+++++++
I would. But then, I'm just some weirdo on the internet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:14 PM (hYcqw)

267
I just sent Popeye's a very negative report of my customer experience this evening.

The spinach had listeria

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:14 PM (IqV8l)

268 Miklos, also LOL.

"You call THIS spicy?!?!?" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:15 PM (eMKNe)

269 115 I still remember those 15 minutes in the 1990s when Sierra Nevada was really popular...
Posted by: qdpsteve



Its a good solid brand. I still drink it occasionally. There Summer Lager, Pilsner, and Pale Ale are all really good. Right now I'm consuming coffee (at work). In the fridge at home I have Founders Solid Gold and Devils Backbone Vienna Lager.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 11:15 PM (pY+s4)

270 What the fuck? NO!


Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:11 PM


Well, I was, at least, skeptical! (I'm blaming qdpsteve!)


Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:15 PM (e9G8E)

271 Getting a candlestick phone to work with a VoIP switch.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:14 PM (IcT7t)
++++++
Neat problem. Did you need to amplify it? Those have a hefty power draw IIRC.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:15 PM (hYcqw)

272 Teem - no pain no gain!

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 26, 2018 11:15 PM (YLycA)

273 I've got a serious decision to make. If I have another gin I'll get all chatty and shit. Should I risk it?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem.

It's Memorial Day weekend, I think it's your duty as a Moron to go for it.

Heh heh, doody.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 11:15 PM (f3MDZ)

274 Puddleglum, it's funny. I don't drink beer but I remember so many of the commercials and pitch campaigns.

I still remember when Molson Golden was a thing in the early 1980s. Ads made it sound like a milkshake.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:16 PM (eMKNe)

275 Some people in the movie thread asked about Korean War movies.

The one I was thinking of is The Steel Helmet.

It was actually the first Korean War movie.

Posted by: MAGA at May 26, 2018 11:16 PM (LnOh3)

276 Korean War movies? M*A*S*H, of course.

Although as well all know, it was really about 'Nam...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:16 PM (eMKNe)

277 Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy!


Somehow I found those rockin; Peanuts videos recently, too, and watched them "do" Rush's 2112

Posted by: booknlass at May 26, 2018 11:16 PM (uJ09Y)

278 There's no better group than the Moron Horde. Serious.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 11:17 PM (nBr1j)

279 Bebe, in your bday suit? What about chooze?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 26, 2018 11:17 PM (etv5d)

280 Switched to baseball, and there's an Indian casino called "Morongo" sponsoring the game. Sounds like a place for this crowd ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (hYcqw)

281 265 Getting a candlestick phone to work with a VoIP switch.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:14 PM (IcT7t)

Rotary phone?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (gQQ9b)

282 261
Props to the toilet seat lid for putting up the best struggle against the shredder. Overall, though, that was a dumb video.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 11:12 PM (NoLse)

++++

I admit I didn't watch the full 17 minutes, but I did see the toilet seat. Kind of funny flapping around. I liked the bottle of lotion close to the beginning, squirting itself to death.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (pvjTE)

283 As cold as I could stand without throwing my body
into shock. Plus I don't dry, the flipping the fans can do that.
Drippy cranky Bebe;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:13 PM



I still have the feeling there are *things* you're not sharing...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (e9G8E)

284 I second Devil's Backbone; their 8 Point IPA is a solid pick and can be had at many restaurants around here in Ol' Virginny.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (YLycA)

285 Joe Mannix, I'm goin' to Morongo for a three-day vacation in July. It used to be called Casino Morongo and was one of the first places I ever played blackjack, in the late 1990s.

IMHO, second only to Pechanga in the running for best SoCal indian casino.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:19 PM (eMKNe)

286 255 228 Bebedahl is BBD?
:0
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:00 PM (e9G8E)

What the fuck? NO!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:11 PM (gQQ9b)
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Well gosh, did ya have to rough disclaimer like that, I mean really, talk about breaking a girl's heart.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:19 PM (yNyJy)

287
Ugh, robo-voice. Even poor speakers are usually better than robots. I don't know why people insist on using robo-voices.


There is some news video service on YouTube that employs the robovoice for narration. I despise it to the point where I do not remember its name because I bail out so fast whenever I allow myself to be suckered into giving one of its products a click.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 11:19 PM (NoLse)

288 His Wiki page is interesting. They look like they want to call him a
white supremacist, but since he overtly denies it, they just hint.

I know, but they like to call anyone on the right a white supremacist, so that's not conclusive.
If I really wanted to familiarize myself with him, I'd start watching his videos at his Youtube channel.
Sure, I can do that, and I already watched one, but there's hours of video there, I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 26, 2018 11:20 PM (vFKpB)

289 285 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:19 PM (eMKNe)
+++++++++
Ah, that makes sense given where the game is. A little far afield for me. Enjoy your vacation, and good luck!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:20 PM (hYcqw)

290 I so wish we could have a Moron Meetup at Pechanga, but not enough folks here who live in SoCal it appears.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:20 PM (eMKNe)

291 Bottoms up Jim!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 26, 2018 11:21 PM (nWc4E)

292 Candlestick Phone draws 24 volts, DC.

Best have you a souped up USB port.

You know, the kind Teh Horde uses to distribute bourbon hither and yon.

*hopefully holds up glass under USB port, like waiting for Santa*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. Thankya, cfomom!

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 11:21 PM (QzJWU)

293 Neat problem. Did you need to amplify it? Those have a hefty power draw IIRC.
Reproduction one from the 70's, so it's a bit more gentle on the hardware. Sounds good, too!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:22 PM (IcT7t)

294 Joe, thanks. I admit the name is funny. Another indian casino near Palm Springs is Agua Caliente, which I'm sure you can decipher. It's as if the tribes are taunting us palefaces...

Supposedly the name predates the casino too, as there's a Morongo Valley around there somewhere.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:22 PM (eMKNe)

295
The one I was thinking of is The Steel Helmet.
It was actually the first Korean War movie.
Posted by: MAGA


With "short round" and "baldy."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:22 PM (IqV8l)

296 I still have the feeling there are *things* you're not sharing...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (e9G8E)
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Well yeah, I'm not a porn star like Stormy Daniels but I guess I could attempt to make some stuff up.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:23 PM (yNyJy)

297 I scanned Allsup's wiki... Not sure he's a thing, yet...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:23 PM (e9G8E)

298 Reproduction one from the 70's, so it's a bit more gentle on the hardware. Sounds good, too!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:22 PM (IcT7t)
++++++
Nice. I'm on the lookout for a 1980s-era touch-tone Western Electric payphone. Those suckers are indestructible and sound good and it would be a nice conversation piece (literally and figuratively).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:23 PM (hYcqw)

299 Rotary phone?

Yes. It doesn't dial out, but that's fixable with a $45 kit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

300

Hogmartin,
Brazoria County, Texas.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (eM8BP)

301 BebeDahl, is there a reason you're letting people think your're me?

i've never complained about you stepping on my nic because i don't own the rights to "bebe", but more than one person thought you were me on this thread & you didn't say shit to let them know you're not.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (gQQ9b)

302 284 I second Devil's Backbone; their 8 Point IPA is a solid pick and can be had at many restaurants around here in Ol' Virginny.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings



And in the grocery store. I live DB's Vienna Lager.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 11:25 PM (pY+s4)

303 Looks like The Duke is about to spank a solid One......


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 26, 2018 11:25 PM (8iiMU)

304

A tree out front, perhaps 50 feet from the house, was hit by a bolt and split top to bottom.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 11:25 PM (eM8BP)

305 Jim, if your USB supports whiskey, I'm pouring Jack Daniels.*plug and pray*

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 26, 2018 11:26 PM (YLycA)

306 302: 'love' not 'live'. More coffee.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 11:26 PM (pY+s4)

307 on this day, the first day of many people's 3 day weekend, I delivered the mail to houses on the route where I lived while growing up.

130 fewer boxes than my usual route. on a sunny day of 95 friggen degrees, I appreciated that....

bittersweet to deliver to all the houses and farms I used to know and lived at some, during my long 29 years on the roads where I drove around and drank beer with my friends.

Posted by: booknlass at May 26, 2018 11:26 PM (uJ09Y)

308 Rotary phone?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:18 PM (gQQ9b)


Keep an eye on the apex seals, those things go out like nobody's business.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (fZuhk)

309 I read about this last night. Made me furiously angry. This Gertrude bitch and her spawn should have all been electrocuted to death by 1970.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (eMKNe)

310 No Mister Bill? I'm disappointed.


NOOO....OH NOOOOO.....

Posted by: Miklos, Play-doh's smell has now been patented at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (zCyNd)

311 I don't keep track of hashes... Except Miklos's, just because!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (e9G8E)

312 We're talking bagels, right?
Posted by: Rebbi Miklos at May 26, 2018 10:56 PM (zCyNd)


Oh no. It was mostly 19th century liberal protestants who first came up with theories like this.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (/qEW2)

313 Nice. I'm on the lookout for a 1980s-era touch-tone Western Electric
payphone. Those suckers are indestructible and sound good and it would
be a nice conversation piece (literally and figuratively).


Happy hunting. I've seen lot's of rotary payphones on fleaBay, but touch-tones seem to be a bit more difficult to come by. Then again, I was looking for "antique" phones, so maybe I just missed them.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (IcT7t)

314 I don't drink beer, never liked it, but round these parts ever body seems to think yuengling is the best beer ever. I also hear good things about the local brewery called feed store brewery.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 26, 2018 11:28 PM (myjNJ)

315 Vas ist?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (JaA49)

316 I don't keep track of hashes... Except Miklos's, just because!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (e9G8E)


Whoa, hey, looks like the New Router Fairy left a shiny new hash under my pillow.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (fZuhk)

317 BebeDahl, is there a reason you're letting people think your're me?

i've never complained about you stepping on my nic because i don't own the rights to "bebe", but more than one person thought you were me on this thread & you didn't say shit to let them know you're not.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (gQQ9b)



I so happen to have in my possession, the Election Night pornoPhotographic Proof, of Bebe's Boobs Destroys "true identity."

Therefore, to settle this, once and for all, I hereby demand that BOTH OF YOU email to me, forthwith, new and un-redacted JPGs of your respective "assets" (pudding cups, optional), and I will mediate the conflict, herewith.

I am, after all, but your humble servant.

Lecherously Respectfully,


/snrk



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (QzJWU)

318 Is it bad I've binged the first 3 seasons of Bleach in the last 2 days?
and evening all.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (d/thM)

319 When I was stationed in Arizona in the 80's, I used to shoot pool at this hole in the wall bar off base. One night, one of the civilians I worked with pointed to the glass doored beer cooler and asked me if I noticed anything funny about the Corona. It took a minute or so but I suddenly noticed that the level of beer in each bottle was different. Serious quality control there!!
Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 10:22 PM (IuYIh)

Where in Arizona?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (Tnhbr)

320 299 Yes. It doesn't dial out, but that's fixable with a $45 kit.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

Nice. You know where i can get an adapter for my old rotary with the 4 prong plug, so i can use it when the big one hits?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (gQQ9b)

321 The Duke is mansplaining.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 26, 2018 11:30 PM (EZebt)

322 Worst storm ever in Brazoria County? Now that is saying something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 11:30 PM (V2Yro)

323 Okay I went for it--gin number two is going down. I'm using a double-walled cappuccino glass for the drinking. I'm taking a caffeine break so, this seems like a good alternative use for the glass.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 11:31 PM (nBr1j)

324 >> Lecherously Respectfully,

Me too. We need a titty committee to carefully consider this and make a report to the Horde.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 26, 2018 11:31 PM (8O3HH)

325
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (fZuhk)

That trollop Put!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 11:31 PM (eM8BP)

326 *looks like an early night for Jim down Texas way*

And no pudding cups.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 26, 2018 11:31 PM (JaA49)

327 First decent group on Austin City Limits that I've seen in a while. Asleep at the Wheel

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:32 PM (5OO3x)

328
Pixy!!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 11:32 PM (eM8BP)

329 301 BebeDahl, is there a reason you're letting people think your're me?

i've never complained about you stepping on my nic because i don't own the rights to "bebe", but more than one person thought you were me on this thread & you didn't say shit to let them know you're not.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (gQQ9b
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I don't know what you are even talking about. I am not nor have I ever eluded to you at all. What posts? I only one I saw was the one. Scrolling, still only see one. I have had this name for 40 flipping years. Sorry if that has caused confusion here, or any discomfort to you, but I haven't done anything wrong.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:32 PM (yNyJy)

330 Vas ist?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (JaA49)

Vas deferens.

Posted by: Miklos, more bee than bird at May 26, 2018 11:33 PM (zCyNd)

331 Me too. We need a titty committee to carefully consider this and make a report to the Horde.

Titty committee has a certain cache.
Oh crap. I'm on the verge of getting chatty.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 11:33 PM (nBr1j)

332 Wiki says "He has been described as a white nationalist by The Atlantic."

OK, let's go read that link at the Atlantic.

The press conference was also supposed to include white nationalist social media personalities Baked Alaska and James Allsup, but Spencer said Baked Alaska couldn't make it because his eye had been injured in the melee and Allsup was with him.

That's it. They have a whole piece about the aftermath from Charlottesville, and he gets mentioned because allegedly (per scumbag Spencer) Allsup was supposed to be at a press conference that he didn't even show up for.

So, the Atlantic just throws the "white nationalist " descriptor out there, but provides no reason for doing so. Of course, the narrative at the time was that anyone at Charlottesville was either Antifa or a right-wing hater. And they didn't want to talk much about Antifa.

I don't know a thing about the guy, but he looks like a budding, self-promoting, wannabe Milo type. It looks like all the hateful stuff is left wing exaggerations / smears.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:33 PM (pvjTE)

333 317 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 11:29 PM (QzJWU)

Bwaaaahhh!!!!! Nice try, go hit your bookmarks.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:33 PM (gQQ9b)

334 Vas deferens.

That's not coming out with the wash.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 26, 2018 11:33 PM (JaA49)

335
Nice. You know where i can get an adapter for my old rotary with the 4 prong plug, so i can use it when the big one hits?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
-----------

Probably won't matter, most of the SLICs, ESS centers and such will be smoked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:34 PM (w1zJX)

336 That photo up top - it looks just like the view out our front window. Except, fields and forest instead of ocean and rocks and waves. Other than that, just like.

Thus do I once again stumble into the twilight zone known as the ONT.

Hwdy, Hordelings. Catch me up on the whats. Or not. Whatevs. (pathetic attempt of 65yo 29yo trying to talk like a valgal)

Posted by: mindful webworker - checking in from Mom's house at May 26, 2018 11:34 PM (ECLlc)

337 Worst storm ever in Brazoria County? Now that is saying something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 11:30 PM (V2Yro)



Alvin, TX, even after Hurricane Harvey, still holds the 24 hour rainfall record in the United States.

1979. Forty Three inches of rain.

Contrast with Hurricane Harvey, 2017. Fifty Two inches of rain, but over three days.

When you say "Worst Storm in Brazoria County," you should also be building an Ark.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 11:34 PM (QzJWU)

338 I so happen to have in my possession, the Election Night pornoPhotographic Proof, of Bebe's Boobs Destroys "true identity."


This evidence will be subpoenaed, considering that I have..uh...standing.

Posted by: Miklos. pro se at May 26, 2018 11:35 PM (zCyNd)

339

Today was march around day. 3 separate parades and I am beat.
A mixture, sadness for those who died that we may have this freedom and so much pride to live in this most exceptional country.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2018 11:35 PM (S/hVx)

340 I like the Devil's Backbone brews as well. Right now I'm enjoying a Revolver Brewing Blood & Honey, American Ale. Quite good. Texas made, out of Granbury, Texas (sw of Fort Worth)

I generally go for the ales, enjoy a good rich one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 11:35 PM (V2Yro)

341 324 >> Lecherously Respectfully,
Me too. We need a titty committee to carefully consider this and make a report to the Horde.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Po

What, exactly, are you doing?!

Posted by: publius's ficus at May 26, 2018 11:36 PM (gQQ9b)

342 Vas deferens.

That's not coming out with the wash.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 26, 2018 11:33 PM (JaA49)


I had mine out when I was eight.

They let me have all the ice cream I wanted.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:36 PM (fZuhk)

343 Saturday joke --

Curious glaze on those donuts.

* *

Posted by: mindful webworker - barely into the post so far, obviously at May 26, 2018 11:37 PM (ECLlc)

344 When you say "Worst Storm in Brazoria County," you should also be building an Ark.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

This guy Noah he's talking about.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 11:38 PM (f3MDZ)

345 All this talk of beer reminded me of the 6 pack of Irish Death in my fridge. A dark ale, brewed in Central WA. Often taken with a cigar on the deck.

Posted by: Winston at May 26, 2018 11:38 PM (wgCUV)

346 336 That photo up top - it looks just like the view out our front window. Except, fields and forest instead of ocean and rocks and waves. Other than that, just like. "

Funny, I was thinking the same thing - my view looks just like that! Except my house faces north, not west, so you don't see the sunset. And there's no water. And there's a road in front, and you can't see very far, because the neighbors house and all his trees are in the way. But other than that, yeah, just like it!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 11:39 PM (V2Yro)

347 This guy getting arrested for a DUI is seconds away from going full Randy Marsh; "IS THIS AMERICA?? IS THIS AMERICA?? I'M SORRY! I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!!

He's almost there. Just keep the camera running! Dude is hammered though. Very very hammered.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 11:39 PM (pY+s4)

348 They let me have all the ice cream I wanted.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:36 PM (fZuhk)


"Ice" "Cream"... you're funny. Wanna check out my fireman's pole?

Posted by: Anderson, swinging 365 at May 26, 2018 11:39 PM (zCyNd)

349 I read about this last night. Made me furiously angry. This Gertrude bitch and her spawn should have all been electrocuted to death by 1970.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:27 PM (eMKNe)
++++++++
I am opposed to the death penalty, but some cases make me reconsider that stance. This qualifies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:40 PM (hYcqw)

350 my hometown has flags flying everywhere, as you come into town on the highway, all down the main streets, the cemetery, the old school that's now a "fieldhouse" venue and pizza parlor.

I thought it looked beautiful this afternoon as I left to come home.

Posted by: booknlass at May 26, 2018 11:40 PM (uJ09Y)

351 347: watching "Live P.D."

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 11:40 PM (pY+s4)

352 worst storm ever in Brazoria , er, bullshit. they had Ike and Hervey

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 11:41 PM (4y8IQ)

353
Today was march around day. 3 separate parades and I am beat.

I marched to the grocery store and laid down in the aisle.

Posted by: Lover of Hogg at May 26, 2018 11:42 PM (IqV8l)

354 >> Titty committee has a certain cache.

That it does. Of course, here, it's not an ITBC, Itty Bitty Titty Committee. Nosiree bobtail, just the opposite.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 26, 2018 11:42 PM (8O3HH)

355 Things I did:

1. Replaced carb on my 40 yr old tractor
2. Mowed my place and in-law's
3. Defrosted the garage freezer
4. Primed the well pump
5. Drained the hot tub (cleaning it tomorrow)
6. Watched Heat
7. Read the movie thread. Reminisced a bit and remembered absent friends.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 26, 2018 11:43 PM (di1hb)

356 Often taken with a cigar on the deck.
Posted by: Winston at May 26, 2018 11:38 PM (wgCUV)




*looks at coffee table where a shamefully neglected Peder Jeppesen Neerup #7 sits forlornly next to a tin of Dunhill 965*

Aw shit, fam. The smoking lamp is lit as fuuuuuck in all authorized spaces.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:43 PM (fZuhk)

357 Miklos #13: ONT, as the nights grow shorter...

As we were driving to The City tonight, I noted how far north the sun was setting. "Soon," I said to Milady, "it will be the Solstice. Next thing you know, it'll be the Equinox. And before you know it, it'll be Winter again!"

"Yep," she coldly replied. "That's how it works."

I lamented, "And I haven't even been swimming yet!"

Posted by: mindful webworker - okay, maybe you had to be there at May 26, 2018 11:43 PM (ECLlc)

358 327 First decent group on Austin City Limits that I've seen in a while. Asleep at the Wheel
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc



They've been a band for 40+ years. They know how to entertain.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 11:43 PM (pY+s4)

359 I marched around the local nursery where they had a half price sale on all of their annuals.

The next two days I get to march around my yard planting everything we bought.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 11:43 PM (V2Yro)

360 335
Nice. You know where i can get an adapter for my old rotary with the 4 prong plug, so i can use it when the big one hits?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
-----------

Probably won't matter, most of the SLICs, ESS centers and such will be smoked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:34 PM (w1zJX)

++++

Maybe. But, lots of times plain old copper-wire phone lines will work when all else is down. For one thing, they will work when the electricity is out. With VOIP, you are SOL unless you have battery backup or a generator or something like that. And even then, the internet is much more fragile than regular phone. Your best bet to have working phone service during a disaster is to keep at least one line on the regular phone service.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:44 PM (pvjTE)

361 >> What, exactly, are you doing?!
Posted by: publius's ficus

No need to concern yourself with that, my fair foliant flower, just close your eyes, think of England, and it will all be over soon.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 26, 2018 11:44 PM (8O3HH)

362 Has anybody here tried FilmStruck?

Posted by: booknlass at May 26, 2018 11:44 PM (uJ09Y)

363 ...All this talk of beer reminded me of the 6 pack of Irish Death in my fridge. A dark ale, brewed in Central WA. Often taken with a cigar on the deck.

Posted by: Winston at May 26, 2018 11:38 PM (wgCUV)



Presuming a Double Corona or a Churchill, this would be a ratio of 2:1, beers to cigar.

Which is why gentlemen imbibe at home, and not subject to the vagaries of the law or MADD or other such harridans.

My house is under the jurisdiction of DAMM. Drunks Against MADD Mothers.

Our motto: "Don't Drink And Drive. 'Cause You Might Hit A Bump And Spill Yer Drink!".

Secret Password to enter club: I'm Sotally Tober!



Jim
New Sunk Dwan
Galveston, TX


(im not as think as you drunk i am!)



/snrk

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 11:45 PM (QzJWU)

364 I'm drinking the Negra I've had in the freezer now... Just a bit of slush in the first couple of sips...


It's no longer mere beer -- it's ambrosia!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26, 2018 11:45 PM (e9G8E)

365 G'Night Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 26, 2018 11:45 PM (Ckg4U)

366 earlier in the movie post there was a discussion of world war I. a commenter said pershing was against the armistice and wanted to push on to unconditional victory. i said it was foch who declared that the germans would be back in 20 years.

we were both right.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 11:46 PM (Pg+x7)

367 Hi all, off to bed. Worked today and took care of J and the dongs. Maybe see you later in the nite.

Damn air upstairs quit and it's gonna be 90 + tomorrow. But it works downstairs and I will use the house big fan to draw the cold stuff upstairs, aint; paying time and a half for work on a holiday weekend.

Sleep well, prolly better than us.

Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2018 11:46 PM (yJ1e6)

368 Jim, I've never seen someone so good at crying and eating at the same time...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:37 PM (eMKNe)


The Walrus and the Carpenter fragment:

[. . .]

'The time has come,' the Walrus said,
'To talk of many things:
Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing wax --
Of cabbages -- and kings --
And why the sea is boiling hot --
And whether pigs have wings.'

'But wait a bit,' the Oysters cried,
'Before we have our chat;
For some of us are out of breath,
And all of us are fat!'
'No hurry!' said the Carpenter.
They thanked him much for that.

'A loaf of bread,' the Walrus said,
'Is what we chiefly need:
Pepper and vinegar besides
Are very good indeed --
Now, if you're ready, Oysters dear,
We can begin to feed.'

'But not on us!' the Oysters cried,
Turning a little blue.
'After such kindness, that would be
A dismal thing to do!'
'The night is fine,' the Walrus said,
'Do you admire the view?'

'It was so kind of you to come!
And you are very nice!'
The Carpenter said nothing but
'Cut us another slice-
I wish you were not quite so deaf-
I've had to ask you twice!'

'It seems a shame,' the Walrus said,
'To play them such a trick.
After we've brought them out so far,
And made them trot so quick!'
The Carpenter said nothing but
'The butter's spread too thick!'

'I weep for you,'the Walrus said:
'I deeply sympathize.'
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.

'O Oysters,' said the Carpenter,
'You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none --
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 11:46 PM (2K6fY)

369 Imagine this poor sad thing, but staring at the camera with huge puppy eyes on late night TV with a tearjerky Sarah McLachlan song in the background.

https://stoatnet.org/neerup.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:47 PM (fZuhk)

370 I am opposed to the death penalty, but some cases make me reconsider that stance. This qualifies.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 11:40 PM (hYcqw)

That is the sickest thing I've read in ages. I don't agree with death penalty, but solitary for life imprisonment, yes. That bitch should not have been allowed to "mother" any fellow prisoner. She was a model prisoner only because she was observed constantly, the sick bastard.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 11:47 PM (/+bwe)

371 I love Dunhill 965 and a lot of their other blends. Good pipe tobacco is impossible to find here and good cigars are impossible to afford.
I did find out that there is a cigar factory in Woodinville, WA. San Juan Cigars. A neighbor said he'd been given one and loved it. Not cheap. $20.00 per stick.

Posted by: Winston at May 26, 2018 11:48 PM (wgCUV)

372
Maybe. But, lots of times plain old copper-wire phone lines will work when all else is down. For one thing, they will work when the electricity is out.

If you have a sound powered phone you might be able to talk to others in your neighborhood using similar instruments but if the switching network is down you won't be talking to anybody else.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

373 329 What posts? I only one I saw was the one. Scrolling, still only see one. I have had this name for 40 flipping years:

215 Hey, Bebe's has a new nic!
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (eMKNe)

228 Bebedahl is BBD?
:0
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 26,

279 Bebe, in your bday suit? What about chooze?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 26, 2018 11:17 PM (etv5d)

There's 3, since choos have been part of my "thing" since l g f. more than a few of us that landed here after getting banned can confirm, along with my penchant for men in kilts and trashy lingerie shopping nights.







Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:49 PM (gQQ9b)

374 ALH #26: It's after 10:00 pm EST and I'm still awake.
This is a major accomplishment for an old lady.
Congratulate me!


I suppose it's now 'way to late to congratulate you?

Anyway, my 98yo* mom just toddled off to bed. How y'all doin'?

*(next month)

Posted by: mindful webworker - I yam a fortunate son at May 26, 2018 11:49 PM (ECLlc)

375
Oysters: septic system of the sea.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 11:50 PM (eM8BP)

376 On the topic of beer, has anyone else noticed the weird regionalism in beer? I like porters, but CO's Front Range does *not.* This is IPA town - everyone has half a dozen IPAs but we have something of a porter drought. I was in Portland, OR a few years ago and you couldn't swing a cat without hitting several good porters - but you were SOL if you wanted a good amber.

Where are you?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 11:50 PM (Tnhbr)

377 Good pipe tobacco is impossible to find here and good cigars are impossible to afford.
Posted by: Winston at May 26, 2018 11:48 PM (wgCUV)


Could you give a cursory overview of the WA tobacco laws? I don't know anything about it except that P&C and everyone else has the "no sales to WA" mark of shame that you usually only see with firearms and California.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:50 PM (fZuhk)

378 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
My current stock includes Mark Twain Robustos in a great Maduro wrapper. Yumm. Two beer level smoking.

Posted by: Winston at May 26, 2018 11:51 PM (wgCUV)

379 Oh, yeah: Short but sweet post tonight, MisHum.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I ain't neither suckin up at May 26, 2018 11:51 PM (ECLlc)

380 If you have a sound powered phone you might be able to talk to others in your neighborhood using similar instruments but if the switching network is down you won't be talking to anybody else.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

I discovered during an outage that my plug-in phone no longer worked. That was another reason to ditch the landline.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 11:52 PM (/+bwe)

381 My mother was a Porter.

Posted by: Jerry Van Dyke at May 26, 2018 11:52 PM (IqV8l)

382 Maybe. But, lots of times plain old copper-wire
phone lines will work when all else is down. For one thing, they will
work when the electricity is out. With VOIP, you are SOL unless you have
battery backup or a generator or something like that. And even then,
the internet is much more fragile than regular phone. Your best bet to
have working phone service during a disaster is to keep at least one
line on the regular phone service.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:44 PM (pvjTE)

In our part of NJ, Verizon abandoned the POTS lines a few years ago once they came through with fiber. You had to sign up for VOIP to keep your "landline" or be disconnected by the end of Dec 2016. I told them fine, disconnect us. I kept the POTS line all through the years for dependability, and told them so. But, they were not supporting it anymore, so it's gone.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 26, 2018 11:52 PM (9YBqo)

383 Things I did:

1. Replaced carb on my 40 yr old tractor
2. Mowed my place and in-law's
3. Defrosted the garage freezer
4. Primed the well pump
5. Drained the hot tub (cleaning it tomorrow)
6. Watched Heat
7. Read the movie thread. Reminisced a bit and remembered absent friends.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 26, 2018 11:43 PM (di1hb)



Morons DO shit like this.

Just finishing off the complete replacement of front porch, stairs, and all associated railings.

The amount of "fancy work" on a house built in the 1920s "Craftsman Style" is just short of Victorian in complexity.

That, coupled with the fact that I'm doing everything to be as near to Square and Perfect, as is possible with an out of square structure.

100% of all fasteners, 316 Stainless screws, and Grade 8 Stainless bolts, nuts and washers.

All of the wood, finely finished, be it stain or paintwork.

In contrast to the crude, builder grade dreck which it's replacing.

I could NEVER build an Ark. I'd be too busy getting the joinery JUST RIGHT, before Teh Flood.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 11:52 PM (QzJWU)

384 there's a funny video behind that purty picture up top.

a guided meditation parody. ha ha

Posted by: booknlass at May 26, 2018 11:53 PM (uJ09Y)

385 e. Your best bet to have working phone service during a disaster is to keep at least one line on the regular phone service.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:44 PM (pvjTE)

And that's why i still have a landline.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:54 PM (gQQ9b)

386 Oysters: septic system of the sea.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
------------

Crabs - The possums of the sea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:54 PM (FJXGr)

387
You know, Uncle Harv just gives us filthy ficus foulers a bad name. We're going to have a vote to kick him out at the next meeting.

I was reading about Uncle Harv's perp walk and court appearance. The court sketch artist greatly exaggerated his lard belly for comedic effect. Of course, it may not be too much of an exaggeration because they said the normal size hand cuff and waist chain thingy wasn't big enough, requiring them use a longer chain.

There are three victims involved in what they're charging him with, with includes rape in several degrees. Who knows if he'll end up convicted or not. He's gonna have the best lawyers money can buy.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 26, 2018 11:55 PM (8O3HH)

388
I could NEVER build an Ark. I'd be too busy getting the joinery JUST RIGHT, before Teh Flood.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
-------------

One word - Pitch

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (FJXGr)

389 Joe Mannix and NaughtyPine, exactly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (eMKNe)

390 Spankings?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (iTpm7)

391 Which is why gentlemen imbibe at home, and not subject to the vagaries of the law or MADD or other such harridans.


When Ireland outlawed smoking in pubs, it destroyed the pub business. Without a good talk, why have another round? And what is a good drink and talk, without a pipe or a paper (cig)?


I think there are still Irish pubs-previously an indestructible business-available for free, upon assumption of lease.

Posted by: Miklos O'Molnar at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (zCyNd)

392 One word - Pitch
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
---------

OK, two words oakum and pitch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:57 PM (FJXGr)

393

Now it's clear. Don't like the weather in Texas? Wait five minutes. Droughts are ended by floods and vice versa.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 11:57 PM (eM8BP)

394 Calm Mentor #45: ...Spending the night(s) this weekend on the boat, safely tucked into a party cove. ...we dare not venture onto the open lake this weekend. The idiots are everywhere on holiday weekends.

Oh, gauwd! Holiday boaters! Nightmarish. At least all the idiot drivers tend to stay in the vicinity of the highway. Boaters can go any which way.

Posted by: mindful webworker - another reason I'm a landlubber at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (ECLlc)

395 If you have a sound powered phone you might be able to talk to others in your neighborhood using similar instruments but if the switching network is down you won't be talking to anybody else.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

++++

Yes, it is true that if the phone network is down, you will not be able to use your phone. Thank you for your diligence in pointing that out.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (pvjTE)

396 390 Spankings?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (iTpm7)

Where?!

Posted by: The Ladies of Castle Anthrax at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (gQQ9b)

397 Miley: Shanking? Sure. Why not? You or me the spankee?

Posted by: CMU VET at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (C+wjz)

398 Hello? Anyone? Bueller?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (aljs9)

399 Spankings?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (iTpm7)

OK, but gloves are MANDATORY

Posted by: Miklos, practicing the perfectly cupped hand at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (zCyNd)

400
I still have an old twisted pair landline, but things have changed big time. The "last mile" as one of the phone guys explained to me, goes to a box a ways up the road, where it gets multiplexed onto a fiber network.

I was having problems with line noise. Turned out to be 60Hz power interference, and they just switched to another pair. I was getting him to 'splain the latest.

Now, if your land land is through VoIP over the cable modem, then a power outage usually kills that. Phone system is still independently powered, at least for a while from the local power grid. But the cable system is not.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (8O3HH)

401
I think there are still Irish pubs-previously an indestructible business-available for free, upon assumption of lease.
Posted by: Miklos O'Molnar


A business opportunity for Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:59 PM (IqV8l)

402 >> My mother was a Porter.
Posted by: Jerry Van Dyke

And liked to get drunk off antifreeze.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:00 AM (8O3HH)

403 One word - Pitch
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.




I have some rather spendy measuring tools, which can split the angle on any inside or outside corner, providing me the solution by which, to set the miter saw as to cut a combination that will both fit, and result in a square and true outcome.

Fit *that* compound sentence into yer Funk & Wagnalls!


/obscure Rowan & Martin reference



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 27, 2018 12:00 AM (QzJWU)

404 Okay. I thought I'd banned myself. That was weird.
Hogmartin.
To answer you about laws on tobacco here I don't know who P&C is but JR's and Cigar International has no issues with shipping to me here. Since I'm old and on a small fixed income I tend to buy less expensive cigars but the JR Alternatives can be excellent.
The Mark Twain's are a kind of house brand for C-I as I've never seen them anywhere else. The taxes on cigars or any tobacco product are in the 40-50% range.

Posted by: Winston at May 27, 2018 12:01 AM (wgCUV)

405 Guy Mohawk #56: photoshop Trump on the Duke and fauxchahontus or hillary on O'hara.
or schumer


Entirely different attitude, but Melania might work.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I've GOT to quit commenting on these stale old comments at May 27, 2018 12:02 AM (ECLlc)

406 >> Spankings?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess

There you are, your Grace. Every in^2 you know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:02 AM (8O3HH)

407 Where are you?
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 11:50 PM (Tnhbr)
+++++++
I'm west of Denver.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (hYcqw)

408 I just finished a fifth of Old Elk.

Very good bourbon.

But I may have a prollem.

Let's call this Day Zero.

I will post a similar note for the daywalkers tomorrow.


Goodnight.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (Mkuv2)

409 Welll I thin' I'm going to bed Baba lui.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (nBr1j)

410 $#!+ - now I see the very next comment had the same reply (Melania) I just gave. Okay, going lurk mode 'til I get more caught up.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Return of the Son of the Horde Hive Mind at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (ECLlc)

411 Spankings?



Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (iTpm7)



OK, but gloves are MANDATORY

Posted by: Miklos, practicing the perfectly cupped hand at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (zCyNd)

Hmm, I'm accustomed to gloveless spankings.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (iTpm7)

412 /obscure Rowan & Martin reference



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

Sock it to ME

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 27, 2018 12:04 AM (f3MDZ)

413 Fit *that* compound sentence into yer Funk & Wagnalls!
Posted by: Jim at May 27, 2018 12:00 AM (QzJWU)


Weems & Plath do my angle splitting, TYVM.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:04 AM (fZuhk)

414 ... re: pershing vs. foch:

actually, the other commenter was more correct. pershing wrote a letter to the supreme allied command stating that the allies should fight on to unconditional surrender. foch accepted the armistice of november, 1918, but only complained that the germans would be back in 20 years (he was right) because the terms of the versailles treaty weren't harsh enough.

i looked it up on wikipedia.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2018 12:04 AM (Pg+x7)

415 goodnight, Pug

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (uJ09Y)

416 I don't know who P&C is
Posted by: Winston at May 27, 2018 12:01 AM (wgCUV)


https://www.pipesandcigars.com/

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (fZuhk)

417 411 Spankings?



Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 26, 2018 11:56 PM (iTpm7)



OK, but gloves are MANDATORY

Posted by: Miklos, practicing the perfectly cupped hand at May 26, 2018 11:58 PM (zCyNd)

Hmm, I'm accustomed to gloveless spankings.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (iTpm7)

Are you looking for volunteers, Miley?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (nBr1j)

418 I'm west of Denver.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (hYcqw)


Ah, ok.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (Tnhbr)

419 415 goodnight, Pug
Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (uJ09Y)

'g'night.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (Mkuv2)

420
And liked to get drunk off antifreeze.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:00 AM (8O3HH)

Hmmm. "Porter" doesn't sound very Russian.

Posted by: Miklos, non-Slav at May 27, 2018 12:06 AM (zCyNd)

421 I found a red touch tone General Electric phone at a flea market. I gave it to a co-worker since it was a style that she wanted when she was a kid.
She runs it off a Magic Jack.

I swear though, it looked like it should be waiting for a call from Vlad.

Try looking online for an adaptor. I know they have the 4-pin to the newer connector style out there.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2018 12:07 AM (2K6fY)

422 I'm calling it.
Night Horde.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 27, 2018 12:08 AM (f3MDZ)

423 That shredder video was great. I'd shred everything in my house if I had one, and the house, too, if I had a tub grinder.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 12:09 AM (YLycA)

424 There you are, your Grace. Every in^2 you know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:02 AM (8O3HH)

You're thorough. I like that in a man.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:09 AM (iTpm7)

425 Hmm, I'm accustomed to gloveless spankings.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:03 AM (iTpm7)

Please consider the English language suffixes "-er" and "ee".

Also specify type of glove in detail; extensive, specific detail.

Posted by: Miklos, rather...specific in his "tastes" at May 27, 2018 12:09 AM (zCyNd)

426 okay, from what I've read FilmStruck and its accompanying streaming The Criterion Collection is going to replace Netflix.

yay! I love TCM's movies, but don't want cable. I found FilmStruck tonight, going through my bookmarks and reading on Warner Brothers' streaming service.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:10 AM (uJ09Y)

427 414 ... re: pershing vs. foch:

actually, the other commenter was more correct. pershing wrote a letter to the supreme allied command stating that the allies should fight on to unconditional surrender. foch accepted the armistice of november, 1918, but only complained that the germans would be back in 20 years (he was right) because the terms of the versailles treaty weren't harsh enough.

i looked it up on wikipedia.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp



If memory serves, He was off by a month on his prediction. He never saw that though, he died before WWII started.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 27, 2018 12:11 AM (pY+s4)

428 424 There you are, your Grace. Every in^2 you know. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:02 AM (8O
You're thorough. I like that in a man.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:09 AM (iTpm7)

Oh thank The Hopper, you've arrived to save me!

Posted by: publius's ficus at May 27, 2018 12:12 AM (gQQ9b)

429 Hi morons!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:12 AM (6FqZa)

430 I discovered during an outage that my plug-in phone no longer worked. That was another reason to ditch the landline.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 11:52 PM (/+bwe)

"Is this the party to whom I am speaking?"

Posted by: Ernestine, we don't care, we don't have to at May 27, 2018 12:13 AM (zCyNd)

431 Time for us old folk.
Got thinking as I watched our family, especially our daughters, this evening that they are a pretty good legacy for a man to leave.

And so always remember that we're Americans, so you hold that head HIGH and PROUD.
This weekend is one of the better reasons to do so.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2018 12:13 AM (S/hVx)

432 Hi morons!
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:12 AM (6FqZa)


'allo there

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:14 AM (fZuhk)

433 goodnight, Iron Grampa. Love ya....

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:14 AM (uJ09Y)

434 booknlass, how are those kittens doing?

Posted by: pogomip at May 27, 2018 12:14 AM (qmxp5)

435 Dobraya noch', IG!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:15 AM (e9G8E)

436 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1000406035725774849

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1000406131875958784

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1000406231327141889

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1000406341331152896

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1000406454057259014

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1000406578124742656

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2018 12:15 AM (eh0Va)

437 Dobro pozhalovat', BTH!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:16 AM (e9G8E)

438 Oh thank The Hopper, you've arrived to save me!

Posted by: publius's ficus at May 27, 2018 12:12 AM (gQQ9b)

You'll be dry in no time.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:16 AM (iTpm7)

439 55
Got to find a replacement for my Starbucks house blend beans. When
they go on sale for 4.99 for a 12 oz bag, I always buy a few months
worth. Never can pass it up but can't do it anymore. phuckers

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (Ymy4N)

I found the Kirkland brand Columbian 3lb bag for about $16 or so is an outstanding value. They have another house brand "roasted by Starbucks" that doesn't use as good of beans. Price conscious coffee bean roast blends use either Brazil based or Columbian based blends, usually.
They sell so much that it turns quickly, so many other beans on the shelf are stale.
To keep the beans fresh, pour a weeks worth in a container with a locking top, and tighten up the bag and freeze it. Keep the drinking beans in the cupboard, not the refrigerator. It makes a lot of difference.
I roasted coffee for 15 years and a couple of years ago closed the shop. Other than going to local micro roastaries and paying $15 a pound, I found after searching a lot, this is the best value for relatively consistent freshly roasted coffee.Of course once in a while there are big sales at the big stores with small bags. Only problem is that sometimes it is stale. And not on sale when you happen to run out.





Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 27, 2018 12:17 AM (UsCnO)

440
I was reading the history of the old telephone switchboards years ago. The originally tried teenaged boys to be operators, as they used them for a lot of stuff during the old telegraph days. But that didn't work out.

So they hit on the idea of women, unmarried preferred to be operators. Now, the trope of "Sara" the small town operator was a real thing.

In small towns, the operator would be some unmarried women, some old maid type perhaps living with her mother or sisters. The switchboard would be installed right in her home.

And everyone would know here, and she would be up on all the local gossip, and would be known to listen in on juicy phone calls.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:17 AM (8O3HH)

441 Well, I'm only ~300 comments back now.

Alternate photomanip of Wayne/O'Hara pic: Sarah H Sanders as Wayne, that shmucky press corpse guy for Maureen.

Milady helpfully recalls: Acosta. Yeah, him.

Posted by: mindful webworker - she knows everything that matters; I know all the rest at May 27, 2018 12:17 AM (ECLlc)

442 Dobro pozhalovat', BTH!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:16 AM (e9G8E)

Ah see ya'll Rooshans been colludin' agin....

Posted by: zombie Fritz Hollings at May 27, 2018 12:18 AM (zCyNd)

443 Are you looking for volunteers, Miley?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 27, 2018 12:05 AM (nBr1j)

I have drawn a name from this here hat.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:18 AM (iTpm7)

444 hi pogomip! they're fat, cuddly, sweet and toddly. Starting to play fight, and when they sit like 'big cats' they are lethally adorable.

When do you think I should begin feeding them kitten food, to suppement their mom's milk? she's looking pretty gaunt.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:19 AM (uJ09Y)

445 Crabs - The possums of the sea prairie.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 11:54 PM (FJXGr)

FIFY

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) at May 27, 2018 12:19 AM (vW8Mk)

446
ATandT switchboard history film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ1fKFqt7qU

Random operator training film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tYsjiurepY

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:20 AM (8O3HH)

447 In small towns, the operator would be some unmarried women, some old maid type perhaps living with her mother or sisters. The switchboard would be installed right in her home.

And everyone would know here, and she would be up on all the local gossip, and would be known to listen in on juicy phone calls.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:17 AM (8O3HH)

I guess Edward Snowden has one of those sweet "work form home" jobs these days too.

Posted by: zombie Fritz Hollings at May 27, 2018 12:20 AM (zCyNd)

448 Is this the party to whom I am speaking?"
Posted by: Ernestine, we don't care, we don't have to at May 27, 2018 12:13 AM (zCyNd)

"Whom are you calling, sir? This is not a party line and we do not accept solicitatng calls."

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 27, 2018 12:20 AM (/+bwe)

449 hi Miley! how is your Memorial Day looking to be?

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:21 AM (uJ09Y)

450 When do you think I should begin feeding them kitten food, to suppement their mom's milk? she's looking pretty gaunt.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:19 AM (uJ09Y)

You could bottle feed them kitten formula. We had to do that with the runt of the litter.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:21 AM (iTpm7)

451 I recall seeing a photo of telephone operators back in the day, on roller skates(!), working a very long switchboard...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:21 AM (e9G8E)

452 well, I'm only a quarter Slavic and that's mostly (((you know what))).

In archie news, someone bought a wooden Hawaiian idol in Paris and is set to return it:
tinyurl.com/yc2cadnr

May I suggest that this might not be the correct time to return a wooden idol to the Island.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:22 AM (6FqZa)

453 hi Miley! how is your Memorial Day looking to be?

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:21 AM (uJ09Y)

Hi booknlass! Rainy, maybe. I hope not, we want the traditional grilled meats.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:22 AM (iTpm7)

454 I recall seeing a photo of telephone operators back in the day, on roller skates(!), working a very long switchboard...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:21 AM (e9G8E)


The exchange has a long switchboard?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:22 AM (fZuhk)

455
In small towns, the operator would be some
unmarried women, some old maid type perhaps living with her mother or
sisters. The switchboard would be installed right in her home.



And everyone would know here, and she would be up on all the
local gossip, and would be known to listen in on juicy phone calls.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:17 AM (8O3HH)


My mom ran a plugboard after WWII. She needed the money and her first husband went back into the service.
She said she had to learn things like when the little kid at such and such a number called in for "grandma" you had to remember who grandma was.

The small towns like keeping the local exchanges since the phone company would be in essence paying for the fire watch and emergency operator

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2018 12:22 AM (2K6fY)

456 publius, I love this 1950s film on using Facebook:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iROYzrm5SBM

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2018 12:23 AM (eMKNe)

457 Ah see ya'll Rooshans been colludin' agin....

Posted by: zombie Fritz Hollings at May 27, 2018 12:18 AM


It's what we do!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:23 AM (e9G8E)

458 Miley, I bought some kitten formula for Pepe, the runt, and he just fought me like mad. didn't want it, and exhibited enough strength in his legs I (almost) quit worrying about him.

so i could try it with the rest of them, see if they do want any

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:23 AM (uJ09Y)

459
Mother cat looking gaunt? The nursing will tax them. She needs to eat all she'll eat. Something we've done is feed nursing mother cats raw eggs. Scramble it up. They'll usually lap that right up.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:23 AM (8O3HH)

460 The telephone switchboard eluded Bell; it was invented by a Hungarian named Tivadar Puskas.

Which means that Hungarians have been listening to everyone's phone calls forever.

Mitigation: Magyars no speakee english

Posted by: zombie Tivadar at May 27, 2018 12:23 AM (zCyNd)

461 May I suggest that this might not be the correct time to return a wooden idol to the Island.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:22 AM (6FqZa)


Rather brings to mind the Parable of Bobby Brady, doesn't it?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:24 AM (fZuhk)

462 I have to go to bed. Don't wanna. Trying to squeeze all the reading and moroning out of the hours before work. Have a great weekend!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 27, 2018 12:25 AM (/+bwe)

463 The exchange has a long switchboard?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:22 AM


It would appear so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Sek4u3mpo

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:25 AM (e9G8E)

464 thank you publius, i'll try that

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:28 AM (uJ09Y)

465
The first automatic "dialing" system, at least here, was invented by a mortician (with help). A funeral director. Why?

Well, his competitor's wife was an operator at the local phone exchange (they did use married women sometimes, but there was originally a preference for unmarried). Any time someone would call and ask for "funeral home", she would route the call to her husband's business.

This pissed this guy off and he wanted a way to automate things, to avoid this kind of bias.

It wasn't the dial system, but something else. You can find the history of these designs. Fancy electromechanical switching systems.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:29 AM (8O3HH)

466 Mother cat looking gaunt? The nursing will tax them.
She needs to eat all she'll eat. Something we've done is feed nursing
mother cats raw eggs. Scramble it up. They'll usually lap that right up.


Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:23 AM (8O3HH)

You're such a good cat daddy.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:30 AM (iTpm7)

467 So how come all y'all nerds aren't watching "Solo"?? The seats must all be sold out. That must be it

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:30 AM (6FqZa)

468 I have drawn a name from this here hat.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:18 AM (iTpm7)

Any hat so capacious, so finely designed and made, of only the finest and rarest materials, so as to encircle and adorn an intellect of such rare refinement and sensibility as that of Your Ladyship, is perchance such, that a mere fleeting glimpse would be only for the strongest of heart, and purity of intent.

Posted by: Miklos, face averted at May 27, 2018 12:31 AM (zCyNd)

469 There's 3, since choos have been part of my "thing"
-----
Looks like your "thing" is making a brouhaha with strangers that happen to have the name Bebe or happen to not know or care about your "thing". So what, so there's is two other posts that I also didn't see & also didn't have the wherewithal to blindly respond to. BFD. Does everybody read every post & respond to every post? Of course not. I now take my apology back. I care even less now what your rules are or your expectations are with me. My name is Bebe, deal with it.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 27, 2018 12:31 AM (yNyJy)

470 boulder, that and we don't like things that suck.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2018 12:31 AM (eMKNe)

471 444 hi pogomip! they're fat, cuddly, sweet and toddly. Starting to play fight, and when they sit like 'big cats' they are lethally adorable.

When do you think I should begin feeding them kitten food, to suppement their mom's milk? she's looking pretty gaunt.
Posted by: booknlass

Put some out for everyone! If mom eats it all, she needs it. If the kittens start eating it - even better!

Posted by: pogomip at May 27, 2018 12:31 AM (qmxp5)

472 OK, sleep well all. Think we got upstairs cooled off enough we can sleep.

Tomorrow supposed to be like 94. Hey, whatever, I'm off for 2 days, unheard of!

Oh and for summer songs last night, I remembered my fave, walking past dorms at ISU, it was driving me nuts last night.

I was strolling along Manchester-Hewitt dorms, I think the song blasting out that summer was ""Rock the Nation" by Montrose. Anyone else in to Montrose back then?

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2018 12:32 AM (yJ1e6)

473 It wasn't the dial system, but something else. You can find the history of these designs. Fancy electromechanical switching systems.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:29 AM (8O3HH)


If you have enough relays, patience, time, and flowcharting templates, you can build your own version of a parallel evolution, the electromechanical relay computer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLnUukOJyZE

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:32 AM (fZuhk)

474 I have to say, I can empathize with the woman who tried to drive through the half-marathon. Those routes are mapped out with no consideration for residents who may be blocked in/out of their street for several hours, all so a bunch of smug, self-righteous runners or cyclists can feel good about themselves.

Posted by: biancaneve at May 27, 2018 12:33 AM (A/iod)

475 >> You're such a good cat daddy.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess

High praise coming from such a good kitty mama.

Posted by: publius, the Gloveless Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:35 AM (8O3HH)

476 I was strolling along Manchester-Hewitt dorms, I think the song blasting
out that summer was ""Rock the Nation" by Montrose. Anyone else in to
Montrose back then?

I'm into Montrose now. The music still holds up.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 27, 2018 12:35 AM (IcT7t)

477 369 Imagine this poor sad thing, but staring at the camera with huge puppy eyes on late night TV with a tearjerky Sarah McLachlan song in the background.

https://stoatnet.org/neerup.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 11:47 PM (fZuhk)

Ooooh, were I a wealthier man I would treat myself to one of those. And yes, Dunhill is fine stuff, I get a tin of Nightcap when I think of it.

Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at May 27, 2018 12:36 AM (1FhAQ)

478 photoshop Trump on the Duke and fauxchahontus or hillary on O'hara.

or schumer
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (r+sAi)

If you used Hillary's face, you'd also have to P-shop in a manatee ass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 12:37 AM (WFV7d)

479 Note to self: semi-colons in the name field clears all the fields. Oh-kaay.

Continuing plowing through comments - up to the 200s. Are we at 600s yet?

I like to think there really is a "Bob" at NSA tuned into us, and laughing his ass off at every reference. We surely have won him over by now.

Bob to Edna: "They talk about me!"

Posted by: mindful webworker - Bob and Edna sitting in a van, k-i-s-s-i... wait a sec... at May 27, 2018 12:37 AM (ECLlc)

480 OMG dark thirty alarm awaits.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 27, 2018 12:38 AM (QzJWU)

481 only for the strongest of heart, and purity of intent.

Posted by: Miklos, face averted at May 27, 2018 12:31 AM (zCyNd)

This is very true.
I cheated, though. All of the names are the same. Duchesses are rarely called out on this sort of thing.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:38 AM (iTpm7)

482 Bob to Edna: "They talk about me!"

Posted by: mindful webworker - Bob and Edna sitting in a van, k-i-s-s-i... wait a sec... at May 27, 2018 12:37 AM (ECLlc)

Well, name's Bob, but everybody calls me Tex.

Posted by: Tex and Edna Boil's Organ Emporium at May 27, 2018 12:39 AM (zCyNd)

483 Hey Farmer, I heard Fool For the City today and immediately thought that's what you were talking about last night. Definitely has a Boston vibe to it. 70s. Very blastable. But thanks for the tip on Montrose, haven't heard any of their stuff.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 12:39 AM (YLycA)

484 biancaneve - the 'Bolder Boulder' bullshit has been fucking up my Memorial Day route to the mountains since I moved here.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:40 AM (6FqZa)

485 High praise coming from such a good kitty mama.

Posted by: publius, the Gloveless Poperin Pear at May 27, 2018 12:35 AM (8O3HH)

Mom-mom, but thank you. I'm redolent with the Cat Parasite.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2018 12:40 AM (iTpm7)

486 Put some out for everyone!


okay, pogomip, will do

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:40 AM (uJ09Y)

487 So I read
I know you don't want to ask Hillary what her favorite card game is... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve


I said to Milady, "What's Hillary's favorite card game?"
Milady shrugs.
Me: "Gin!"
Milady: "I thought you were going to say Russian Bank."

Posted by: mindful webworker - You know the card game Spite and Malice? at May 27, 2018 12:40 AM (ECLlc)

488 Hat? Where's the hat? I was refilling my beverage!

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 12:40 AM (YLycA)

489 G'night, everyone!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2018 12:42 AM (hYcqw)

490 goodnight, Jim.

May every minute you sleep rest you like two.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:42 AM (uJ09Y)

491 oh, and there`s a proTrump rally at 1 PM Memorial Day, on the 88th St / 36 overpass. All the drivers coming to/from Boulder will have to see us Deplorables in our red hats. Heh.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 27, 2018 12:42 AM (6FqZa)

492 And on that topic, what porters do y'all like (if you like porters, obviously)?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2018 10:34 PM (hYcqw)

Pig's Ass Porter from some craft brewer in Montana is very yummy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 12:43 AM (WFV7d)

493 Hat? Where's the hat? I was refilling my beverage!

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 12:40 AM (YLycA)

And Who Stole my Beer while I was in the Rear?

Posted by: Dave Bartholomew at May 27, 2018 12:44 AM (zCyNd)

494 Any HDD news AOP?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:44 AM (fZuhk)

495 BebeDahl's got sand. I like that in a fellow 'ette!

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:45 AM (uJ09Y)

496 Pig's Ass Porter - any bacon bouquet?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 12:45 AM (YLycA)

497 If you used Hillary's face, you'd also have to P-shop in a manatee ass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 12:37 AM (WFV7d)
--------
Yeah, then there's that stuff about pirates confusing a manatee for a mermaid thang? ;^)

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 27, 2018 12:45 AM (yNyJy)

498 469 I care even less now what your rules are or your expectations are with me. My name is Bebe, deal with it.
Posted by: BebeDahl at May 27, 2018 12:31 AM (yNyJy)

they're not my rules. impersonating another poster is a big no no. why the flip out instead of just clearly saying you're not me, especially when this was your initial reply:

286 Well gosh, did ya have to rough disclaimer like that, I mean really, talk about breaking a girl's heart.
Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 11:19 PM (yNyJy)

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2018 12:45 AM (gQQ9b)

499 BebeDahl's got sand. I like that in a fellow 'ette!

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:45 AM (uJ09Y)

When all you have is sand, make sandpaper.

Posted by: Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing at May 27, 2018 12:47 AM (zCyNd)

500 I was strolling along Manchester-Hewitt dorms, I think the song blasting
out that summer was ""Rock the Nation" by Montrose. Anyone else in to
Montrose back then?

I'm into Montrose now. The music still holds up.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 27, 2018

Indeed it does. You have superior taste. As an aside I think I smelled pot as I strolled by. It was a delicious summer day about 1977.

Man am I getting old.

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2018 12:48 AM (yJ1e6)

501 Thanks booknlass, I appreciate that.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 27, 2018 12:49 AM (yNyJy)

502 Farmer, in '78 at the U of Illinois, some friends of mine were playing drums and guitars on the mezzanine at Illini Tower one Saturday afternoon. They launched into "Aqualung" and were sounding great.

I was playing the "power hitter," responsible for applying smoke to the musicians' nostrils and mouth area while their hands were busy.

and then we heard the sirens. we escaped!

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 12:51 AM (uJ09Y)

503 When all you have is sand, make sandpaper.
Posted by: Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing at May 27, 2018 12:47 AM (zCyNd)


I look at your finest grit and wonder what happened to "nil carborundum"?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2018 12:51 AM (2K6fY)

504 We have just had the most violent storm I have ever experienced here. The overhead garage door was vibrating. A lightning bolt hit and split a tree out front. Scary.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 10:57 PM (eM8BP)

Just got home from a trip to Pizza Nite in Rowley, Alberta. On the way home, was headed directly at a very active thunderstorm. It hasn't hit here, ...yet, but I expect it will. Doggie is here in the basement with me, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 12:52 AM (WFV7d)

505 I look at your finest grit and wonder what happened to "nil carborundum"?


Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2018 12:51 AM



Thought that was "Illegitmi non carborundum"...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 12:54 AM (e9G8E)

506 I'm cheering for Pepe, the fiesty runt!

Posted by: pogomip at May 27, 2018 12:55 AM (qmxp5)

507 That was me trying to make light of his confusion. Now you are merely dreaming. I didn't impersonate anyone, including you. Now wisely take your fixation with me & stuff it.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 27, 2018 12:55 AM (yNyJy)

508 I look at your finest grit and wonder what happened to "nil carborundum"?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2018 12:51 AM (2K6fY)

The finest grits, in my opinion, are stone ground yellow grits, but de gustibus non disputandem.

Posted by: Marcus Tullius Miklos at May 27, 2018 12:56 AM (zCyNd)

509 507 That was me trying to make light of his confusion. Now you are merely dreaming. I didn't impersonate anyone, including you. Now wisely take your fixation with me & stuff it.
Posted by: BebeDahl at May 27, 2018 12:55 AM (yNyJy)

Riiiigghht. eyeroll.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2018 12:58 AM (gQQ9b)

510 Hey Farmer, I heard Fool For the City today and immediately thought that's what you were talking about last night. Definitely has a Boston vibe to it. 70s. Very blastable. But thanks for the tip on Montrose, haven't heard any of their st
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 12:39

Great, if you like Boston check out Montrose. And IIRC they cleverly labeled their next alblum Montrose II. LOL, clever bastards.

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2018 12:58 AM (yJ1e6)

511 BebeDahl, is there a reason you're letting people think your're me?

i've never complained about you stepping on my nic because i don't own the rights to "bebe", but more than one person thought you were me on this thread & you didn't say shit to let them know you're not.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2018 11:24 PM (gQQ9b)

Late to this party, but BebeDahl =/= bebe's boobs destroy, and most of us who have been here for more than a week or two know that. And both are valued members of the group.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 01:00 AM (WFV7d)

512 the "munk debate on political correctness" much discussed earlier today and in the sidebar is on tv right now on c-span.

i don't have the patience.

they still have rigorous debates art cambridge/oxford debating societies - they occasionally appear on tv and can be entertaining with brilliant argumentation and wordsmithery (sans sophistry - taylor op cit).

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2018 01:02 AM (Pg+x7)

513 "I'm cheering for Pepe, the fiesty runt!"

You are obviously using the spellcheck from Ralph Fiennes.

Posted by: Miklos, liking Checkers, especially dogs name Checkers with respectable Republican cloth coats at May 27, 2018 01:02 AM (zCyNd)

514 ... peterson has begun his opening statement. i've never heard him speak.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2018 01:03 AM (Pg+x7)

515 ... i.e. jordan peterson, who's giving a very interesting argument.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2018 01:04 AM (Pg+x7)

516 Peterson's a thought-provoking, fascinating, and comforting speaker.

Brilliance with that Canadian / Scandi lilt. love it.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 01:05 AM (uJ09Y)

517 Semper ubi sub ubi...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 27, 2018 01:05 AM (e9G8E)

518 ... he's basically defending the individual against the group; free speech against group think.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2018 01:05 AM (Pg+x7)

519 Goodnight all, thanks for the fantastic funny chat tonight. Love it all, including the card game puns. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2018 01:06 AM (eMKNe)

520 Nite all, the queen has retired and after her surgery I'd best follow.

May pop up later or see you tomorrow, be well.

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2018 01:06 AM (yJ1e6)

521 Sobieski has a chilling article on American Thinker about Jarrett. He comes right out and says she's behind spygate.

hope she and her handled POS pay for their crimes.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 01:07 AM (uJ09Y)

522 Goodnight all, thanks for the fantastic funny chat tonight. Love it all, including the card game puns. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2018 01:06 AM (eMKNe)

Steve knows when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em...

Posted by: Miklos, not counting his money at the table at May 27, 2018 01:09 AM (zCyNd)

523 521 Makes sense, can't see Captain Choom showing that much initiative.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 01:09 AM (YLycA)

524 She's got the Jack, Jack, Jack...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 27, 2018 01:11 AM (YLycA)

525 ->You are obviously using the spellcheck from Ralph Fiennes.
Posted by: Miklos, liking Checkers, especially dogs name Checkers with respectable Republican cloth coats at May 27, 2018 01:02 AM (zCyNd)

I'm cheering for the runt of the litter, with 6 liters of beer in me! Spellcheck fvck you, miklos.

Posted by: pogomip at May 27, 2018 01:11 AM (qmxp5)

526 Any HDD news AOP?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 27, 2018 12:44 AM (fZuhk)

No. I resolutely avoided fucking with it today.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 01:12 AM (WFV7d)

527 Late to this party, but BebeDahl =/= bebe's boobs destroy, and most of us who have been here for more than a week or two know that. And both are valued members of the group.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2018 01:00 AM (WFV7d)

I say come out swinging, and may the best boobs win.

Posted by: Miklos, not making boob, I mean book at May 27, 2018 01:13 AM (zCyNd)

528 my little brother, the first time the JEF stole the office, said electing him after 9/11 was like electing a guy named Rudolf Hickler after WWII.

it made no sense for the safety of the country. but we can thank the globalists, Soros, and the lying media for it.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 01:13 AM (uJ09Y)

529 Finally got caught up to my own 1st comment of the night. Strange kinda feeling. Like that scene in The Time Machine (the old one) where he's jetting past things at high-speed. Only, nothing like that, actually

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for time travel comic at May 27, 2018 01:15 AM (ECLlc)

530 ... dyson is on and he denies p.c. is a weapon of the left; he says only the white patriarchy invented groups in order to maintain power.

bullshit and sophistry (taylor op cit).

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2018 01:15 AM (Pg+x7)

531 That Genius Award Winner shrub removal video kind of validates the emphasis on other types of vehicles in the Gardening Thread. Heh.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2018 01:15 AM (BVQ+1)

532 ribbit

Posted by: Pepe at May 27, 2018 01:15 AM (6FqZa)

533 I'm cheering for the runt of the litter, with 6 liters of beer in me!

Thanks for your interest, pogomip! It warms my heart

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2018 01:15 AM (uJ09Y)

534 I'm cheering for the runt of the litter, with 6 liters of beer in me! Spellcheck fvck you, miklos.

Posted by: pogomip at May 27, 2018 01:11 AM (qmxp5)

"6 liters"

*looks for Immigration Enforcement toll-free weekend number*

Posted by: Miklos, non-Green Card holder at May 27, 2018 01:17 AM (zCyNd)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-26-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Memorial Day

So, it's Memorial Day weekend, so let's take some time to talk about some appropriate movies for the holiday.


The Patriot

63. Memorial Day 01.jpg

Roland Emmerich is not a particularly gifted filmmaker, but he did manage to settle himself down and make a solid Revolutionary War movie. It sits at the top of the pack in terms of movies of that era from the last thirty years because it's one of the only Revolutionary War movies made in that time. I understand some reticence of Hollywood to make movies about it, mostly because the battles aren't really built for cinema (armies marching towards each other and firing is rather flat visually), but at the same time it feels like the era is so rich with character, personality, and events that it should be a gold mine of narrative potential. The AMC series TURN did a reasonable job of showing an alternative side to the conflict, but there's still so much room for more.

Anyway, that out of the way, The Patriot is the third movie staring Mel Gibson about how the English are evil bastards (Gallipoli and Braveheart being the first two). It takes a somewhat rose-colored glasses view of the South at the time (I don't think one black person is identified as an actual slave in the whole movie), but the world feels very lived in and real. Of course, it helps when they actually filmed in Charleston.

I live in Charleston, and I can recognize lots from the movie around town. I was walking up Meeting Street one day, showing my father around, when we ended up walking alongside a horse carriage tour. The guide pointed to a house on the other side of the street and said, "That's Aunt Charlotte's house in Charleston from the movie The Patriot." I looked up and immediately saw that the guy was telling the truth.

Gibson's character feels like he takes a very understandable and believable path from war skeptic to full-blown patriot by the end. At the start, he's haunted by the things he did during the French and Indian War. It's that he felt like he lost his sense of humanity in the face of brutality and went too far. He knows that's a part of him, and he doesn't want to let it out. As he gets involved, he does let it out, of course, and it's not anything to be proud of, but through the sacrifices of two of his sons, he begins to "hold the course" and find that he can fight for a just cause but also retain his humanity at the same time.


Black Hawk Down

63. Memorial Day 02.jpg

Customary Notice: I am a Ridley Scott fanboy.

This film is mostly about sharing in a harrowing experience that most viewers will never take part in themselves. That event, set in Mogadishu, Somalia, was one of the less proud moments in American foreign policy of the 90s, but that does nothing to diminish the heroism and tenacity of the young men who took part.

I've read people who call the movie jingoistic (which makes no sense) and racist (we don't get to know any of the brown people), but the arguments make little sense since the movie isn't about policy or even America and it is about the experiences of the men who lived the event.

So, with that said, it's hard to judge the film based on any typical narrative formulae. It's structure is built around how the battle actually played out. The characters do get the kind of attention they need to carry a film, but it can be hard to tell one from another. The themes are about the brotherhood forged through battle. I've always loved Eric Bana's final speech:

“When I get home people will ask me, "Hey Hoot, why do you do it man? Why? You some war junkie?" You know what I'll say? I won't say a god damn word. Why? They won't understand. They won't understand why we do it. They won't understand that it's about the men next to you, and that's it. That's all it is.”

Also, because the movie was directed by Ridley Scott, that means that it's gorgeous to look at, is extremely well edited, and has solid performances all around. Seriously, the man has chops.


Saving Private Ryan

The first twenty minutes of this movie are some of the best filmmaking Steven Spielberg has ever done.

It's terrifying, completely convincing, and incredibly engrossing from beginning to end. The fact that Tom Hanks is our anchor into the scene as opposed to a more typical action movie star type really helps because he does look very much like an everyman. He looks like how most of the men who actually stormed those beaches actually looked. He looks like he could be a schoolteacher.

The rest of the movie is less impressive, but I still love it for the more conventional war movie it becomes. (I remember reading a post from someone who had read the scripts for both this and The Thin Red Line before their releases who thought that The Thin Red Line's script was more conventional.) The world of battle torn Europe is completely convincing in all of its destructiveness. The terror of the soldiers, the hoplessness of the civilians, and the moral confusion of certain choices makes the whole movie feel very real to me. It's not my favorite World War II movie (not even from that year), but, as a whole, it's still near the top of Spielberg's filmography.


Back to You

Do you have a traditional Memorial Day feature? Was it made by Michael Bay?


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Solo: A Star Wars Story
In Darkness

Next in my Netflix Queue:
La Promesse

Movies I Saw This Week:
A Royal Affair (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Poster blurb: "The romance is great. The politics are okay. It really needed a director with a greater sense of irony at the proto-tyrant its main character was becoming by the end." [HBO]
The Great Wall (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1/4) "Seriously, one of the single dumbest movies I've ever seen. Best of the Worst material, for sure." [HBO]
Danton (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) "Incredibly compelling portrait of the adaptability and corruptibility of power." [Netflix DVD]
Escape from Alcatraz (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Terse, spare, and involving. The escape itself is fantastic." [Netflix DVD]
Loving Vincent (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "The movie looks gorgeous from beginning to end, but the actual story is stilted and a bit of a mess." [HULU]
The Bad News Bears (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Quite funny, but I might have watched it too late in life to ever truly love it." [Amazon Prime]
Solo: A Star Wars Story (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) "Just bad. No build up to anything." [Theater]


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1 Oh thank goodness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:08 PM (qJtVm)

2 Ya beat me, Eris.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2018 07:09 PM (8z1xZ)

3 Saw The Patriot in England, in the theater. Half full when it started; about six people left at the end.

Posted by: Muggings Gone Wrong, Inc. at May 26, 2018 07:10 PM (92RO1)

4 . . . but first you will blow me.

Posted by: Mad Mel at May 26, 2018 07:11 PM (bjCNA)

5 Yes, the Patriot is so Hollywood its not funny

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:11 PM (aC6Sd)

6 The Patriot is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (KCgrJ)

7 Mentioned last night in the Memorial Day thread:

War Horse

A very fine movie about the life of a horse in WWI.

A great flick.

I dare you to watch it dry eyed. Can't be done.

Posted by: navybrat at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (w7KSn)

8 Just watched 1994's "The Puppet Masters" about space slugs that attach to the spine and control humans, as they are wont to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yOz2w5IymM

Not a bad little B movie, although I gather the film is nowhere near as good as the original Heinlein story (is it ever?).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (qJtVm)

9 When I saw the 2nd (?) Potter movie, I spend the first half trying to remember where I saw the actor playing Malfoy, Sr. I was convinced it had to be as a German officer.

Posted by: George LeS at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (59GGI)

10 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 07:13 PM (ojwL9)

11 Ya beat me, Eris.
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OregonMuse graciously announced the thread without planting the FOIST! flag himself.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:13 PM (qJtVm)

12 But Black Hawk Down is very realistic from what I have read, actually if anything a Mogadishu vet said there isn't enough RPGs flying around.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:14 PM (aC6Sd)

13 Love Black Hawk Down but that scene you're talking about? Eric Bana chews the same spoonful of rice or whatever that is for almost a minute.

You will never be able to un-see that now. You're welcome.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:14 PM (fZuhk)

14 I've read people who call the movie jingoistic (which makes no sense)
and racist (we don't get to know any of the brown people), but the
arguments make little sense since the movie isn't about policy or even
America and it is about the experiences of the men who lived the event.

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At least three of the men should've been gay and one a woman. No, three gay, one gay guy a crossdresser, and one gay guy a woman. Wait, no, three men should've been gay, one a crossdresser, one a nutcase who demands everyone calls him a woman, and one a woman.

You know, to better represent the actual percentages of the population.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 07:14 PM (VgKNm)

15 11 Ya beat me, Eris.
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OregonMuse graciously announced the thread without planting the FOIST! flag himself.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:13 PM (qJtVm)

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He never goes for first rights, but sometimes I write something that he must respond to so he plants a paragraph or two in the first comment.

It's literally the only way he responds to the content. He lets me write what I want, and for that I thank him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:14 PM (u8L+n)

16 >The first twenty minutes of this movie are some of the best filmmaking Steven Spielberg has ever done.

One D-Day vet said the only thing they missed was the smell.

Posted by: golfman at May 26, 2018 07:15 PM (If3tB)

17 Memorial Day movies., The Longest Day, Saving Private Ryan and the Passion, because it ain't just about Easter.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:15 PM (SOMFK)

18 Seabiscuit is as much a war movie as War Horse.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:17 PM (SOMFK)

19 Not a bad little B movie, although I gather the film is nowhere near as good as the original Heinlein story (is it ever?)."

Futurama's Brain Slugs, which attached to people and lived off their mental energy. Fry is able to break free of their influence, because the one that attached to his brain starved to death.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:17 PM (V2Yro)

20 My morning bike ride went by the Tavern Movie theater and out in front there were around 5 guys in full storm trooper gear.
The Tavern Movie theater is a place you go get a full meal w/ waitresses and tables and watch the movie playing. Never went there yet. We could have seen Dunkirk but I didn't want distractions.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:17 PM (aC6Sd)

21 Currently watching "The Green Berets" on AMC. It's memorial Day weekend and John Wayne's birthday. Happy birthday, Duke!

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:18 PM (ANIFC)

22 "Wake Island".

Made in 1942, just months after the actual battle. The pre-war scenes mesh well with the actual battle story.

The Marines trying to skate and shirk work/inspections when they can is funny too....some things never change.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 07:18 PM (EoRCO)

23 I'm in for a movie that depicts Dresden.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:19 PM (SOMFK)

24 23 I'm in for a movie that depicts Dresden.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:19 PM (SOMFK)

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I'm thinking a song and dance affair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:20 PM (u8L+n)

25 Can't speak to Memorial Day movies--sorry--but my favourite war movie is probably Gallipoli.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 07:20 PM (nBr1j)

26 Netflix dropped "The Longest Day" so now I have to go buy a copy

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:20 PM (ANIFC)

27 And no spoilers because I know some people are still actually watching the Star Wars movies, but I heard the latest one jumped the shark pretty badly. Like "non-superhero midget beating the sh*t out of dozens of grown men who have worked for years as professional killers" level of shark.

NO SPOILERS

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 07:21 PM (VgKNm)

28 Saving Private Ryan is three short movies in one.

The first is better than the second, the second is better than the third.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:21 PM (pV/54)

29 I really enjoyed Escape From Alcatraz. I don't have any goto movies for Memorial Day, however I enjoyed all but the Patriot but, that's because I've seen it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 07:21 PM (IYHxL)

30 #23 Does my sock link count, Ben?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 07:21 PM (Evws/)

31 Seriously, the man has chops.

mmmm, chops

Posted by: Homer at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (EzdLW)

32 I thought The Patriot, Black Hawk Down, and Saving Private Ryan were all great movies. The only thing with The patriot was that Mel isn't moved to fight until something personal happens to him - just as with Braveheart. But that was a minor flaw. Once he starts killing, it's on.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (RPXrN)

33 I'm very happy that Amazon picked up "The Expanse" for Season 4. Apparently Space Dr. No is a big fan of the novels.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (qJtVm)

34 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)

35 Horse Soldiers (book) and 12 Strong (movie) is what came to mind for this weekend.

1776 the movie musical is always appropriate. They knew what they were getting themselves into.

From pet thread earlier about war animals, there was some really interesting and touching story of a small horse in Korea (?) who achieved marine or army honors. Now I have to go look her up.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (MIKMs)

36 TJMP- Actually what happens when you decide to kill your enemy.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (SOMFK)

37 32 I thought The Patriot, Black Hawk Down, and Saving Private Ryan were all great movies. The only thing with The patriot was that Mel isn't moved to fight until something personal happens to him - just as with Braveheart. But that was a minor flaw. Once he starts killing, it's on.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (RPXrN)

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He starts fighting out of selfish reasons, but comes around to fighting for the cause itself.

It's a good arc.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (u8L+n)

38 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)


Hamburger Hill.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (RPXrN)

39 Enjoyed all of them except Black Hawk Down. That hit too close to some bad memories.

God bless us all.

Posted by: Drewbicle at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (orVkZ)

40 The Longest Day until the very end is pretty much a historical account, its said the idea of blowing up the road block was used just to end it, but SPR end of the beach landing is more realistic with small and large groups working their way inward.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (aC6Sd)

41 Hamburger Hill.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (RPXrN)


Vietnam.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (fZuhk)

42 Ridley Scott gets back on my Good List for producing The Terror.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (qJtVm)

43 I watched "We Were Soldiers" when I was in the hospital with a guy who was there. He said it was pretty realistic.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (O5Q3r)

44 I understand some reticence of Hollywood to make movies about it, mostly because the battles aren't really built for cinema (armies marching towards each other and firing is rather flat visually),

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Have to disagree with you there. I think pre-Industrial Age battles would look great on film. You have colorful uniforms, cavalry charges, hand-to-hand combat. And battles of that era were conducted on a smaller stage, so one could take in the whole scope on screen. Modern battles are large and long, and a filmmaker can only focus on a small group of men, and lose the big picture (which was an oft-heard complaint about 'Dunkirk').

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (ANIFC)

45 41 Hamburger Hill.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (RPXrN)

Vietnam.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (fZuhk)

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MASH

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (u8L+n)

46 Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)

Operation Chromite is on Netflix. I enjoyed it even though it's not expressly an American movie.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (IYHxL)

47 Vietnam.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (fZuhk)


My mistake.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:25 PM (RPXrN)

48 There are lots of Korean war movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

49 45 41 Hamburger Hill.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:23 PM (RPXrN)

Vietnam.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (fZuhk)

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MASH
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (u8L+n)
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Still Vietnam, kinda.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (qJtVm)

50 Can't speak to Memorial Day movies--sorry--but my favourite war movie is probably Gallipoli.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 07:20 PM (nBr1j)

Outstanding film.

As always, I have to use the caveat that this is not a movie per se, but Band of Brothers is the best war story ever filmed.


As for "actual" movies, Band of Brothers and Lone Survivor.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (Mkuv2)

51 The Patriot is Braveheart II.

The Brit colonel is a good villain, but can't compare to McGoohan's Longshanks.

And it's unfair that the one has Sophie Marceau, AND Catherine McCormack as an appetizer.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (pV/54)

52 Operation Chromite is on Netflix. I enjoyed it even though it's not expressly an American movie.
Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (IYHxL)


Foreign is fine by me, Koreans know how to movie good. I'll put it on the list, thanks.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (fZuhk)

53 Die Lengste Tag. The casting in that movie is truly excellent, I didn't appreciate it until I had seen it several times. And the writing was spot on because of the advisers he used. Almost every character is based on someone who actually existed, even Werner Pluskat, the German officer in the bunker.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (V2Yro)

54 44 Have to disagree with you there. I think pre-Industrial Age battles would look great on film. You have colorful uniforms, cavalry charges, hand-to-hand combat. And battles of that era were conducted on a smaller stage, so one could take in the whole scope on screen. Modern battles are large and long, and a filmmaker can only focus on a small group of men, and lose the big picture (which was an oft-heard complaint about 'Dunkirk').
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (ANIFC)

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It's not just pre industrial age, but that narrow window when guns were in mass use but tactics were still not really changing because bullets were so inaccurate.

People don't understand why the lines remain once the firing starts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (u8L+n)

55 I love Sergeant York. I was given it on VHS as a gift when I was having major back surgery at age 18. It really stuck with me.

But the family is currently watching The Alamo (the John Wayne version) kids seem to like it-even without all the modern cgi magic.

Posted by: TheMissusInTX at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (hN2IB)

56 BHD is probably in my top 10 war movies

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (aC6Sd)

57 49
MASH
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (u8L+n)
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Still Vietnam, kinda.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (qJtVm)

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Only sorta.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (u8L+n)

58 I will binge watch "Band of Brothers" on Sunday.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (SOMFK)

59 "I don't think one black person is identified as an actual slave in the whole movie),"

Huh? Did you actually watch the movie?

Jay Arlen Jones character "Occam" is clearly identified as a slave. In fact his owner signs him over and Mel Gibson's character asks "Occam" if it's of his own admonition. Later I. The film during battle Donal Logues character, Dan Scott, who was earlier hassling "ocean" about being a slave tells him he's "free".

But yeah, "rose colored glasses" about the South or something. And by the way there is also an acknowledgment pictorially that about 25% of the patriots at The Battle of Yorktown, were African American.

Now don't even get me started about "Blackhawk Down". I have friends who participated in Gothic Serpent that laugh at the inaccuracies in that movie...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (SeyTv)

60 34 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)


Porkchop Hill. And several others, most of them sort of weird IMHO. I'll try to find the titles.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (AMIL/)

61 Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (fZuhk)

They really do, their spy movies are excellent IMO. Plus their martial arts flicks - which is my favorite genre - are really up there with anything the East puts out.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (IYHxL)

62 MASH
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (u8L+n)


Is that a feature-length version of the TV show, or a legit war movie in its own right? I've never seen it (and I could never get into the show).

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:28 PM (fZuhk)

63 Manchurian Candidate for Korea.

A war no one wanted to remember.

We still want to remember Vietnam, for different reasons.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:28 PM (pV/54)

64 Have to disagree with you there. I think pre-Industrial Age battles would look great on film. You have colorful uniforms, cavalry charges, hand-to-hand combat. And battles of that era were conducted on a smaller stage, so one could take in the whole scope on screen."

Sharpe's Rifles did a great job with their Napoleonic War battles, and they only had a fraction of the budget that the big moviemakers have.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:28 PM (V2Yro)

65

Wonder Woman is on.
Debra Winger is little Wonder Woman girl in this episode.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 07:28 PM (e5LQi)

66 Love the Patriot. Jason Isaacs turned the evil to eleven. He's also my favorite Captain Hook.

Posted by: Gem at May 26, 2018 07:28 PM (XoAz8)

67 I blame the demon liquor, but what I meant to type is Black Hawk Down and Lone Survivor.


Old Elk is hella good bourbon.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (Mkuv2)

68 59 "I don't think one black person is identified as an actual slave in the whole movie),"

Huh? Did you actually watch the movie?

Jay Arlen Jones character "Occam" is clearly identified as a slave. In fact his owner signs him over and Mel Gibson's character asks "Occam" if it's of his own admonition. Later I. The film during battle Donal Logues character, Dan Scott, who was earlier hassling "ocean" about being a slave tells him he's "free".

But yeah, "rose colored glasses" about the South or something. And by the way there is also an acknowledgment pictorially that about 25% of the patriots at The Battle of Yorktown, were African American.

Now don't even get me started about "Blackhawk Down". I have friends who participated in Gothic Serpent that laugh at the inaccuracies in that movie...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (SeyTv)

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You're right. The main black guy is indeed a slave.

But not another. Mel's farm goes it of its way to identify as worked by freemen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (u8L+n)

69 The Great Wall

Just read the synopsis for it at IMDb. All I can think is FFS. And here are the top 5 plot keywords:
great wall of china
female general
monster
mercenary
gunpowder

Appears to have bombed domestically, but made a sh*t ton of money overseas, though.

Posted by: Homer at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

70
People don't understand why the lines remain once the firing starts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:26 PM (u8L+n)


I don't understand why they didn't use any sort of protection. Light suits of armor or light shields to protect the lines, at least somewhat. Something.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (RPXrN)

71 d'oh ! off sock

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

72 Inchon was a movie about Korea, but I never saw it. Said to suck

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (pV/54)

73 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)

"Pork Chop Hill".

Bayonet charge too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (EoRCO)

74 It's too late for saving Ryan's privates. We confiscated them and gave them to the Democrats.

Posted by: chamber of commerce at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (/qEW2)

75
The Steel Helmet
Pork Chop Hill
The Bridges at Toko Ri

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 07:30 PM (IqV8l)

76 38 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)

Hamburger Hill.

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I believe you are thinking Of Pork Chop Hill.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 07:30 PM (cHbmY)

77 Porkchop Hill. And several others, most of them sort of weird IMHO. I'll try to find the titles.
Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (AMIL/)


I wonder if that was the one TPOP was thinking of maybe?

They really do, their spy movies are excellent IMO. Plus their martial arts flicks - which is my favorite genre - are really up there with anything the East puts out.
Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (IYHxL)


One of my favorite horror flicks is R-Point, a sort of lost patrol K-horror set during Vietnam. Really good movie if you liked the feel of Jacob's Ladder or Silent Hill on PlayStation.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:30 PM (fZuhk)

78 I think there's a movie about the Inchon landing.

:hurries to IMDB:

Yup. "Inchon." 1981.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:30 PM (ANIFC)

79 Watched Infinity War today.
What do you call killing half of everyone - bicimation?

Also seen, on Netflix:

Anon - decent SF movie
Evil Genius - documentary about evil crazy perps and FBI fail

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 07:31 PM (hMwEB)

80 Porkchop Hill.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (AMIL/)


That's the one I was thinking of!

Hamburger ... Porkchop ... close enough.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:31 PM (RPXrN)

81 "Bad News Bears" is one of my favorite movies and I happen to be watching right now.

Walter Mathau was a national treasure.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 26, 2018 07:31 PM (C1NyB)

82 72 Inchon was a movie about Korea, but I never saw it. Said to suck
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (pV/54)
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A bunch of us saw it when I was in the Navy because some people we knew were extras (one of my instructors).

Not "bad", but kind of stilted and leaden.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:31 PM (qJtVm)

83 Korea War movies: One off the top of my head, not a weird one: The Bridges at Toko Ri. Naval aviation, not ground combat.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:31 PM (AMIL/)

84 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.
Posted by: hogmartin

Pork Chop Hill with Gregory Peck and very young Rip Torn. Also, there's an officer that just happens to be Japanese, but they didn't make a big deal about it. Just showed him as a soldier doing impossible duty. Good flick.

Also, I rewatched Midway today and I can't for the life of me understand why Hollywood has not given this battle a better treatment. So important and the events are almost unbelievable. I'd like to see it.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (+Tibp)

85 Is BoB on a tv channel Sunday? I mostly love the first few to Night of Nights and Bastogne

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (aC6Sd)

86 Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:30 PM (fZuhk)

I'll check that out. I enjoyed Train to Busan which was a zombie flick but I thought they did a good job keeping the tension up.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (IYHxL)

87 Hamburger Hill and We Were Soldiers were the only Vietnam movies that did not suck serious balls.

The Parris Island portion of Full Metal Jacket was good, the second half was less so.

Apocalypse Now is kind of a separate entity, IMO.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (Mkuv2)

88 MASH is a Vietnam movie set in Korea because the studio didn't want to make a Vietnam movie. But the filmmakers did everything they could to tell you it was really Vietnam, including putting all the extras in coolie hats.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (S8YVh)

89 Speaking of Wonder Woman, I discovered that the queen lady of MILF Island was the MILF (literally, that was probably what she was named in the credits) of one of Max's classmates in Rushmore. She's the gorgeous blonde in the convertible. You know the one.

I'd probably choose her over Wonder Woman, but I have a thing for beautiful older women.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 07:33 PM (VgKNm)

90 The first twenty minutes of this movie are some of the best filmmaking Steven Spielberg has ever done.

Felt the same way about Tarantino's "Inglorious Basterds." The first 20 minutes (at the French farmhouse) had me on the edge of my seat.

Then the rest of the movie was just uninteresting revenge pr0n. What a disappointment.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (ITfBP)

91 A list of Korean War movies...a lot more than I thought!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yck4gol2

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (AMIL/)

92 I just read an article about how Richard Hooker (pen name...forgot his real one) absolutely hated what Alan Alda and the TV series did to his books (really, memoirs, since he was a surgeon in a MASH unit).

Posted by: Gem at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (XoAz8)

93 s BoB on a tv channel Sunday? I mostly love the first few to Night of Nights and Bastogne
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (aC6Sd)


BoB is (was?) on Amazon Prime, along with The Pacific and stacks of other HBO stuff.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (fZuhk)

94 I don't understand why they didn't use any sort of protection. Light suits of armor or light shields to protect the lines, at least somewhat. Something."

The guns being carried were at least .50 caliber, and the famous "Brown Bess" muzzleloader was a .75 caliber. Terribly inaccurate, but when it *did* hit they packed a hell of a punch, and would tear through any wearable armor. So there was no point in weighing a man down with it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (V2Yro)

95 For R. Lee Ermey:

https://terminallance.com/2018/04/17/terminal-lance-legends-never-die/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (qJtVm)

96 Sharpe's Rifles did a great job with their Napoleonic War battles, and they only had a fraction of the budget that the big moviemakers have.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I like Master and Commander, too.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (+Tibp)

97 andycanuk, I'm not ignoring you but there are some things I just can't open.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (SOMFK)

98 80 Porkchop Hill.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:27 PM (AMIL/)

That's the one I was thinking of!

Hamburger ... Porkchop ... close enough.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:31 PM (RPXrN)

Boned Rolled Pig Institutional Meat Food Hill

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

99 And he got shafted in the pay area, too, IIRC. Maybe $500 an episode.

Posted by: Gem at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (XoAz8)

100 Wouldn't "Bounty" count as an English are assholes movie?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 26, 2018 07:36 PM (bdx0K)

101 Boned Rolled Pig Institutional Meat Food Hill
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)
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If this isn't an actual anime title, it's a baseball team out of Hokkaido.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:37 PM (qJtVm)

102 Felt the same way about Tarantino's "Inglorious Basterds." The first 20 minutes (at the French farmhouse) had me on the edge of my seat.

Then the rest of the movie was just uninteresting revenge pr0n. What a disappointment.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (ITfBP)


I'm in pretty much total agreement, here. I liked a little more of the beginning than just 20 minutes but the movie fell apart pretty quickly. That's normal for Tarantino crap.

And I hate the stupid narration he likes to do for his movies. It's just friggin annoying as all get-out. That and the ridiculous "chapters". What a load.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:37 PM (RPXrN)

103 Movie for Memorial Day?

Taking Chance is very very good. The Best Years of Our Lives is excellent too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2018 07:37 PM (pY+s4)

104 Best horse and musket battle scenes... "Barry Lyndon" (and the manoeuvres parade in England) although they weren't perfectly accurate either.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 07:37 PM (Evws/)

105 100 Wouldn't "Bounty" count as an English are assholes movie?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 26, 2018 07:36 PM (bdx0K)

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Wasn't Mel's character also British?

I think that takes off at least half a point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:37 PM (u8L+n)

106 Felt the same way about Tarantino's "Inglorious Basterds." The first 20 minutes (at the French farmhouse) had me on the edge of my seat.

Christophe Woltz I think played the villain who is one of the most memorable to me. He and Clarence Bodikker from RoboCop. I really hated those guys.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:37 PM (+Tibp)

107 A good Vietnam War flick is "Platoon Leader".

Some hokey scenes, but the battle of will with the VC/PAVN is pretty good.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (EoRCO)

108 I'm in for a movie that depicts Dresden.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:19 PM (SOMFK)


I've never seen it, but I see on wikipedia that there was a Slaughterhouse 5 film adaptation in '72.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (/qEW2)

109 Where do we get such men?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (QLvwG)

110 "Just watched 1994's "The Puppet Masters" about space slugs that attach to the spine and control humans, as they are wont to do"

How absurd. Who comes up with these weird ideas?

Posted by: HRC at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (UdKB7)

111 I can't bring myself to watch Black Hawk Down. Knowing the circumstances I would be in a towering rage at the political cluster fuck that led to their needless deaths.

If I watch a Memorial Day movie, it will probably be The Longest Day. Second choice would be Ike: Countdown to D-Day with Tom Selleck.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (V+03K)

112 88 MASH is a Vietnam movie set in Korea because the studio didn't want to make a Vietnam movie. But the filmmakers did everything they could to tell you it was really Vietnam, including putting all the extras in coolie hats.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (S8YVh)

You mean they don't wear coolie hats in Korea? Next you're going to tell me that Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese and not the Nazis or that the Television wasn't invented until 1947.

Posted by: Joey Bidet at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (vW8Mk)

113 I have read only 1 of the Sharpe series books, should get into them as its my prime interest, maybe because in Napoleonic land warfare I read historical accounts.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (aC6Sd)

114 "But not another. Mel's farm goes it of its way to identify as worked by freemen."

The story of African Americans in the Revolution is another movie. That wasn't the story they were telling. Otherwise you would be starting at The Boston Massacre with Crispus Attucks, moving along to patriots like Salem Poor or Peter Salem and talking about the 9,000 African Americans who served in the Revolution.

Conversely you may talk about how the British were encouraging African Americans to join them to gain freedom.

Again, that's another complex Story.

We'll have to disagree. I see no evidence they went "out of their way". It was historically accurate for a film.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (SeyTv)

115 Appears to have bombed domestically, but made a sh*t ton of money overseas, though.
Posted by: Homer at May 26, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

Saw it. Utter crap.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:39 PM (U7voe)

116 I don't understand why they didn't use any sort of protection. Light suits of armor or light shields to protect the lines, at least somewhat. Something."

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Firearms were developed during the age of armor. Firearms won that argument. Though there were elite cavalry units that wore armored helmets & chestplates called "currassiers." The armor was mainly ornamental, though it could protect against the sabers & lances of other horsemen

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:39 PM (ANIFC)

117 I've never seen it, but I see on wikipedia that there was a Slaughterhouse 5 film adaptation in '72.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Yep, it's true.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:39 PM (+Tibp)

118 My niece commented that everyone was silent at the end of "Avengers: Infinity War."

I replied "So, you never saw 'Saving Private Ryan' in a theater?"

No.

Posted by: JAS at May 26, 2018 07:40 PM (ii30j)

119 William Bligh made admiral

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:41 PM (aC6Sd)

120 Historical Korean War factoid.

The Chinese had spies on the docks in Japan and inventoried what was getting shipped to the front. They did a psychological profile of MacArthur, and his grandiosity. Put it together and warned Fat Boy's grandpa that the UN would do an amphibious attack at Inchon, which he dismissed as crazy talk.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:41 PM (pV/54)

121 Would all of Star Wars count as "English are Assholes" movies?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:41 PM (V2Yro)

122 I can't bring myself to watch Black Hawk Down.
Knowing the circumstances I would be in a towering rage at the political
cluster fuck that led to their needless deaths.



If I watch a Memorial Day movie, it will probably be The Longest
Day. Second choice would be Ike: Countdown to D-Day with Tom Selleck.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (V+03K)


A word of advice then, don't watch 13 Hours either.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 07:41 PM (QLvwG)

123 Family movie time -

My dad, wwii vet, was a big fan of A Midnight Clear on this weekend . Might be in a Turner station rotation now.

re Scott fanboism -

I was there until Prometheus. That movie was some sort of whack revenge against fans or something. AvP was better, and nearly identical stories.

Posted by: Gooshy at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (D0SjQ)

124 Taking Chance, highly recommended.

Posted by: navybrat at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (w7KSn)

125 117 I've never seen it, but I see on wikipedia that there was a Slaughterhouse 5 film adaptation in '72.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Yep, it's true."

I've seen it. It was... odd.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (V2Yro)

126 23 I'm in for a movie that depicts Dresden.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:19 PM (SOMFK)


Slaughterhouse-Five.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (sdi6R)

127 Boned Rolled Pig Institutional Meat Food Hill
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

Mechanically Separated Chicken Hill

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (U7voe)

128 You mean they don't wear coolie hats in Korea? Next you're going to tell me that Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese and not the Nazis or that the Television wasn't invented until 1947.
Posted by: Joey Bidet at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (vW8Mk)

I'm pretty sure the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Senator John Blutarsky at May 26, 2018 07:43 PM (ANIFC)

129 I've seen it. It was... odd.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Listen: Billy Pilgrim has come unstuck in time.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:43 PM (+Tibp)

130 #97 That's okay, Ben, it was a news story from two days ago about a bunch of apartments etc. being evacuated in Dresden due to an unexploded bomb being uncovered.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 07:43 PM (Evws/)

131 Speaking of Blackhawl Down, I stood 2 feet away from the rotor recovered from Super 61 just yesterday at the Special Ops and Airborne museum down by Bragg.

Posted by: Oedipus at May 26, 2018 07:43 PM (4C/Be)

132 Processed Cheese Food Product Hill

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 07:43 PM (QLvwG)

133 28 Saving Private Ryan is three short movies in one.

The first is better than the second, the second is better than the third.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:21 PM (pV/54)

>> Thanks for this, Ignoramus. I never thought of it this way, but it perfectly describes my take on it, now that you put this concept into words. I enjoy watching the first two parts but can't watch the last one anymore. Can't describe why. Too sad is part of it.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 07:43 PM (AMIL/)

134 103

I agree Taking Chance was very well done.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 07:44 PM (n9EOP)

135 I saw Kimchi Hill

It stunk

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 07:44 PM (EzdLW)

136 I watch 13 Hours about once a month . My hate knows no bounds.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:44 PM (SOMFK)

137 127 Boned Rolled Pig Institutional Meat Food Hill
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

Mechanically Separated Chicken Hill
Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (U7voe)

Lean Finely Textured Beef Hill

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (vW8Mk)

138 Is "The Patriot" about Gibson portraying Francis Marion, the Swamp ox?

Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (yJ1e6)

139 I replied "So, you never saw 'Saving Private Ryan' in a theater?"

No.

Posted by: JAS at May 26, 2018 07:40 PM (ii30j)

I watched it in a theater. As it ended, you could hear a pin drop. I went outside, sat down on the edge of a storm detention basin and bawled. I had never experienced anything like it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (Mkuv2)

140 I will not see another movie in the Alien franchise, and I was a yuge fangirl. Covenant didn't kill the series -- Prometheus did that -- but it did dig up the body, reanimate the corpse, and kill it again.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (qJtVm)

141 Now hear this:

Svengoolie is showing Tanantulas: The Deadly Cargo

That is all.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (+Tibp)

142 122 ... Count, Thanks for the warning abut 13 Hours. These may be brilliant films but I can't get past the recent circumstances.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (V+03K)

143 12 o'clock High

Probably one of the best war films ever. We still use it for leadership training.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (SeyTv)

144 Porkchop Hill,

MASH

Posted by: JAS at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (ii30j)

145 62 MASH
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:24 PM (u8L+n)

Is that a feature-length version of the TV show, or a legit war movie in its own right? I've never seen it (and I could never get into the show).

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:28 PM (fZuhk)

++++

First was the book, then the movie, then the TV series.

The movie was top-drawer. Robert Altman directed. Recommend.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (pvjTE)

146 I couldn't watch BHD until after I read the book by the Blackhawk pilot who was captured .

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (aC6Sd)

147 Scrolling up and addressing some things.

MASH was a feature movie before there was a TV show. Sally Kellerman got naked, Loretta Swit did not.

I am a complete Tarantino fanboi, I loved Inglorious Basterds.

(He has gone downhill since his longtime editor Sally Menke died. There's no more restraining influence on him.)

The scene in Basterds where they fight in a basement is brilliant. The whole movie is 20 minutes of talking leading up to 1 minute of horrific violence. The violence is a punctuation.

Michael Fassbener's accent was off. I was paying attention very closely to see if it slipped at any point, what was the giveaway? And it didn't, it stayed off to just the same degree. And then it turns out it was the way he held three fingers up. I thought that was brilliant.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 07:46 PM (fuK7c)

148 137 127 Boned Rolled Pig Institutional Meat Food Hill
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

Mechanically Separated Chicken Hill
Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:42 PM (U7voe)

Lean Finely Textured Beef Hill
Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (vW8Mk)

Extruded Pork Analog Hill

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:46 PM (qJtVm)

149 Bubba Clinton when President - Blackhawk Down
Hillary Clinton as SOS - 13 Hours

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 07:46 PM (QLvwG)

150 Slaughterhouse 5, the movie - comparing it to movies of that time period, let just say that Zardoz was a movie that was far more rational, reasonable, and easy to follow.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:46 PM (V2Yro)

151 85 Is BoB on a tv channel Sunday? I mostly love the first few to Night of Nights and Bastogne
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:32 PM (aC6Sd)

BoB is just all-around fantastic. I've watched it at least four times from beginning to end. Music is great, too.

Just looked up the composer, Michael Kamen, dec'd. Also did Brazil, Three Musketeers, Highlander, Die Hard, The Iron Giant, Frequency, and From Earth to the Moon.

Posted by: Gem at May 26, 2018 07:46 PM (XoAz8)

152 Slaughterhouse 5 by Kurt Vonnegut.
The book I've read, haven't seen the movie.
The book vaguely relates Mr. Vonnegut's own experience during WWII European Theater, via a fictitious third person.
It was a difficult read for me, because it made huge chronological jumps.

Posted by: navybrat at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (w7KSn)

153 12 o'clock High

Probably one of the best war films ever. We still use it for leadership training.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (SeyTv)

Seconded. Well, I don't know about the leadership training, but it's a good movie.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (U7voe)

154 Korean War? Watch The Bridges at Tokyo Ri.

Yeah, some of that 50's romance stuff. But the storyline is good.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (SeyTv)

155 I watched the 20 minute clip of Saving Private Ryan. That's the first time I've seen it since I saw the movie in the theater.

For those who don't know, you can watch YouTube videos in HD and full screen.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (sdi6R)

156 Last week talked about DANTON, I saw it shortly after it came out but Sunday watched it again, well worth it.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (aC6Sd)

157 134 103

I agree Taking Chance was very well done.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 07:44 PM (n9EOP)

Good call. Taking Chance is the perfect Memorial Day movie. Kevin Bacon was a good casting choice.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (Mkuv2)

158 The Last of the Mohicans was a good war movie. Pre Revolutionary War.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (pvjTE)

159 What always pissed me off about Blackhawk Down was that Les Aspin, Defence Sec at the time, should have been hung, drawn, and quartered for setting up that entire fiasco. At least he had the good grace to die a few months later, on his own.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (V2Yro)

160 Has there been a Revolutionary War movie about Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys? He seems like a character well-suited for dramatic portrayal (Full disclosure, I may or may not be a distant relative.)

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (EzdLW)

161 Patriot - I liked Jasoon Isaacs in it a lot

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (hMwEB)

162 "Mechanically Separated Chicken Hill"

This is getting too close to home.

Posted by: Hybrid Human Chicken Nugget at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (UdKB7)

163 147.

(He has gone downhill since his longtime editor Sally Menke died. There's no more restraining influence on him.)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 07:46 PM (fuK7c)

=======

His movies have begin to feel more like short novels in film form, and I love that.

The Hateful Eight has so much room to breathe life into its characters. I love to revel in that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (u8L+n)

164 119 William Bligh made admiral
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:41 PM (aC6Sd)

And found himself the center of another mutiny, The Rum Rebellion of 1808. Bligh was appointed governor of New South Wales (now Australia), and soon after conflict developed between he & the colonists. 400 soldiers of the NSW army mutinied & overthrew Bligh & declared a republic, which lasted for two years before the British came back to restore Crown rule.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (ANIFC)

165 Has there been a Revolutionary War movie about Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys?

I seem to recall a movie with Burt Lancaster. Maybe from the 1940's?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (+Tibp)

166 I may not make any friends saying this here, but Tarantino (IMO) has become a jerkoff who's in love with the sound of his own voice.

I'm also waiting for the SJW crowd to realize he says "ni**er" eighty thousand times in every movie he makes and Unperson him.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (U7voe)

167 Kurt Vonnegut was very pleased with the film adaptation of Slaughterhouse-Five.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (sdi6R)

168 Covenant didn't kill the series -- Prometheus did that
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (qJtVm)


Never saw Covenant, but I would wade through a mile of Prometheus swamp if I could listen to that score while doing so. That was the best part of the whole thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (fZuhk)

169 161 Patriot - I liked Jasoon Isaacs in it a lot
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 07:48 PM (hMwEB)

======

This makes me wonder about your taste in men...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (u8L+n)

170 I hope Mel Gibsons next movie in the evil Brit series is about the Reptilian queen

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (/VB9J)

171 "What always pissed me off about Blackhawk Down was that Les Aspin, Defence Sec at the time, should have been hung, drawn, and quartered for setting up that entire fiasco. At least he had the good grace to die a few months later, on his own."

Clinton is the person who should have been hung. We requested armor and more overwatch. He refused for the sake of appearances.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (SeyTv)

172 Okay, not a war movie about any of the wars mentioned, but I love Zulu. You have screw ups that come through when they need to. You have comrades in arms. You have respect for a foe that puts up a good fight. It's just a good movie.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (Lqy/e)

173 Kurt Vonnegut was very pleased with the film adaptation of Slaughterhouse-Five."

Of course he was - the movie was insane in exactly the same way he was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (V2Yro)

174 "Michael Fassbener's accent was off."

Fassbender's father is German, and his mother Irish. He grew up in County Kerry, but spent lots of time in Germany and learned the language.

I'm sure he (or his agent) made a point of this when he went for the role.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (pV/54)

175 Is "The Patriot" about Gibson portraying Francis Marion, the Swamp ox?

Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2018 07:45 PM (yJ1e6)


I think he was supposed to be, in large part, Daniel Morgan, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (RPXrN)

176 What's BoB?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (hMwEB)

177 Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (Lqy/e)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSEU5zHgcTc

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (U7voe)

178 What's BoB?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (hMwEB)


Band of Brothers.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (fZuhk)

179 The royals are worthless leaches maybe Mel can feature that aspect of their uselessness

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (/VB9J)

180 Agree on Zulu.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 07:52 PM (zLDYs)

181 Emulsied Pork Sausage Hill

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 07:52 PM (vW8Mk)

182 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 26, 2018 07:52 PM (KCxzN)

183 " but I love Zulu. "

So do I. Michael Caine's first role. A cockney plays an upper crust Brit. That's acting

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 07:52 PM (pV/54)

184 I finally saw Last Jedi last night. Boy, am I glad I didn't pay to see it in a theater. The whole thing was utterly derivative, unengrossing, and a general snoozefest. Daisy Ridley is cute, in a Keira Knightly way, but doesn't have the presence to carry a movie. The only thing I got from Mark Hamill was a reminder that he isn't a very good actor. Kylo Ren is just a pretty boy, who happens to not be pretty, but rather is just odd looking.

Mostly, though, the problem was that the plot and dialog stank on ice on stilts. I was looking at my watch 30 minutes in.

Maybe it's me, because I'm older and look for something more, but I don't think so. There is virtually nothing put out by Hollywood that interests me, or holds my attention. I think it's that they can no longer write movies for adults. It's all formula, and a bad one at that.


Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 07:52 PM (LAe3v)

185 I may not make any friends saying this here, but Tarantino (IMO) has
become a jerkoff who's in love with the sound of his own voice.


---

I stopped caring after whatever was after Pulp Fiction. A couple of movies after that I realized he hadn't really grown any as a filmmaker and was instead relying on all the same things that made Reservoir Dogs cool. Which is fine, because young kids will watch Reservoir Dogs IX and get the same feeling I got when I thought Reservoir Dogs was edgy and cool, but jeez, man. You've got blank checks to make good movies. Show us what else you've got.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 07:52 PM (VgKNm)

186 I love Shaving Ryan's Privates!

Posted by: Shep! at May 26, 2018 07:53 PM (ANIFC)

187 From Here to Eternity coming up on TCM

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:53 PM (+Tibp)

188 HBO The Pacific. My Dad, & coupla uncles were WWII marines. They wouldnt talk about those days. Except for one who served with Jonathon Winters, apparently combat did not make him less funny.

Posted by: BluesFish at May 26, 2018 07:53 PM (5iPef)

189 Fassbender's father is German, and his mother Irish. He grew up in County Kerry, but spent lots of time in Germany and learned the language.


Yes. He's apparently reticent about using it in real life. I read an interview with him in which the German interviewer prodded him to speak German and he refused.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

190 176 What's BoB?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (hMwEB)

Band of Brothers. The singular best thing ever to come from HBO. Read the book as well. Written by the late Stephen Ambrose. The story of E Co. 2nd Bn, 506th, 101st Airborne.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 07:54 PM (Mkuv2)

191 Imitation Pork Patty made of Soy Hill.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 07:54 PM (EoRCO)

192 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk)


I am going to guess that the Korean war movies made by Koreans are incredibly dark, grim, and every main character either dies or will clearly die in the scene just after the credits.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 07:54 PM (2K6fY)

193 Mel to any of the royals:
But first... wait, wtf am I saying??

GTFOOH

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:54 PM (/VB9J)

194 166 I may not make any friends saying this here, but Tarantino (IMO) has become a jerkoff who's in love with the sound of his own voice.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (U7voe)


Yeah, I saw one or two of his early movies, then lost interest. "Violence porn" seems to be an apt description from what I've seen.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 07:54 PM (sdi6R)

195 The royals are worthless leaches maybe Mel can feature that aspect of their uselessness
Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:51 PM (/VB9J)

It'll be called First Do No Harm. It'll star Mel trying to rescue his dual citizen grandson from an NHS hospital.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:55 PM (U7voe)

196 Clinton is the person who should have been hung. We requested armor and more overwatch. He refused for the sake of appearances."

We see things the same way - how I understand the way it went down was that Clinton was concerned with matters here in the States and really wasn't paying any attention to, and didn't really want to have anything to do with, what was happening overseas. He just figured it would all be good, and it fell to Les Aspin to make all the operational decisions, including the order denying armor to the troops there.

Les Aspin had been a military hating shit for his entire career, and then Clinton made him Defense Secretary. Okay, they both should have been hung right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:55 PM (V2Yro)

197 Swamp Ox, Swamp Ox, horns on his hat... nobody knows where the Swamp Ox at...

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 07:55 PM (Evws/)

198 85 Is BoB on a tv channel Sunday?

amc about 4AM pacific

Posted by: Anachronda at May 26, 2018 07:56 PM (6kSmr)

199 Skip

William Bligh was in command for 4, yes FOUR! mutinies. His command of HMS Bounty was too lax, and he had no marines attached.

He was Cook's Navigator, and a highly skilled one. He excelled with little hope.

I think no other officer could have brought a launch and 13 men to safety, traveling 4,000 miles over the Pacific ocean. 1 was killed by natives, and 5 others died from malnutrition after reaching Timor.

7 inches of freeboard. *Shiver*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 07:56 PM (hyuyC)

200 A few good WWI silents:

Wings
The Big Parade

I haven't seen the Lost Battalion but it sounds interesting.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 07:56 PM (Lqy/e)

201 Meesa still most admired performer in Star Wars.

Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at May 26, 2018 07:56 PM (DMUuz)

202 Yeah, I saw one or two of his early movies, then lost interest. "Violence porn" seems to be an apt description from what I've seen."

Last movie of his that I liked was the original "From Dusk to Dawn" - and yeah, that movie literally is Violence Porn.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:57 PM (V2Yro)

203 187 - they really sanitized the action from the book on which it was based. The 50s

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:57 PM (/VB9J)

204 And my old Pappy Eromero told me that Saving Private Ryan was pretty damn close to what it was really like.
PVT. W.A. Eromero29th Inf Div 6JUN1044

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 07:57 PM (zLDYs)

205
From Here to Eternity is on. The movie is much tamer than the first-edition novel, which is much tamer than the original version Jones wrote.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 07:57 PM (3ZK+G)

206 Monty Clift was SO miscast in Eternity

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:58 PM (/VB9J)

207 201 Meesa still most admired performer in Star Wars.
Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at May 26, 2018 07:56 PM (DMUuz)

More admired than anyone in Soylo, for sure.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 07:58 PM (vW8Mk)

208 The movie is much tamer than the first-edition novel, which is much tamer than the original version Jones wrote.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

More nookie talk?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 07:58 PM (+Tibp)

209 Dirty Dozen
Where Eagles Dare
Midway
Father Goose
Operation Petticoat
The Korean War movie where the guys get seperated from the main company, find a tank then are able to contact headquarters who then proceed to shell the hell out of the dirty Chink commies.

Posted by: MAGA at May 26, 2018 07:58 PM (LnOh3)

210 "Okay, they both should have been hung right there."

Completely agree. But the GO's tried to bring it up with Clinton in a briefing. He's made the call to go with Assholes decision. Than after our men were killed he pulled us back.

He should never be forgiven for that. He was probably the worst CinC ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:59 PM (SeyTv)

211 205 I dont know which version I read but it was pretty raw

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:59 PM (/VB9J)

212 198 85 Is BoB on a tv channel Sunday?

amc about 4AM pacific
Posted by: Anachronda at May 26, 2018 07:56 PM (6kSmr)

No, AMC is doing a Jaws marathon on Sunday.

Posted by: Shep! at May 26, 2018 07:59 PM (ANIFC)

213
More nookie talk?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0


More Shep! talk.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (3ZK+G)

214 "I'm also waiting for the SJW crowd to realize he says "ni**er" eighty thousand times in every movie he makes and Unperson him."

Before Hateful Eight came out, Tarantino bought an indulgence from BLM for his profligate use of the N word by agreeing to appear at a NYC rally. Then two NYPD got assassinated the week before.

Awkward.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (pV/54)

215 Than after our men were killed he pulled us back.

He should never be forgiven for that. He was probably the worst CinC ever.
Posted by: Marcus T

Bin Laden used Clinton's cowardice as proof of America's paper Tiger status. When the going gets tough we pull out.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (+Tibp)

216 Watching the Patriot, I couldn't believe they allowed them to make an honest movie. It was refreshing.

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (qB3GS)

217 Greetings:

One of the things I was grateful for during my all-expense-paid tour of somewhat sunny Southeast Asia was all those post-WW II and post-Korean War films I watched during the '50s and '60s. And I don't mean the blockbusters, but the smaller, BW ones like "A Walk in the Sun" or "Breakthrough". Those films prepared me for the range of behaviors I might likely find myself involved with were I to go to war.

I often wonder if today's soldiers have been so benefited.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (evgyj)

218
Leslie Nielsen was the Swamp Fox

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (IqV8l)

219 Mel Gibson was the ersatz Francis Marion. Jason Issac was the ersatz Banastre Tarleton.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 08:01 PM (rnAwa)

220 I did like Death Proof and Kurt Russell as Stuntman Mike.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 08:01 PM (QLvwG)

221 No, AMC is doing a Jaws marathon on Sunday."

What, Portnoy's complaint, Fiddler on the Roof, and a bunch of Woody Allen movies?

Oh wait, you said JAWS. Never mind.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:01 PM (V2Yro)

222 Off flaming news sock

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:01 PM (ANIFC)

223 Saw "Solo" last night. Wasn't as bad as some people were claiming. "Solo" and "Rogue 1" were better than "Force Awakens" and "Last Jedi". None of these movies would have a chance if the Star Wars universe hadn't already been developed back in the 80's.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 26, 2018 08:02 PM (h1jJh)

224 I hope Soylo does badly.

Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2018 08:02 PM (QCc6B)

225 "Okay, they both should have been hung right there."



Completely agree. But the GO's tried to bring it up with Clinton in a
briefing. He's made the call to go with Assholes decision. Than after
our men were killed he pulled us back.



He should never be forgiven for that. He was probably the worst CinC ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 07:59 PM (SeyTv)

Whew! Not Number One!

Posted by: Jimmah Carter, Operation Eagle Claw at May 26, 2018 08:03 PM (QLvwG)

226 I dont remember boogery in FHTE the novel

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:03 PM (/VB9J)

227 224 I hope Soylo does badly.
Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2018 08:02 PM (QCc6B)

Truthfully, I'd rather see a film based around Jar Jar Binks than Soylo.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 08:04 PM (vW8Mk)

228 205 I dont know which version I read but it was pretty raw
Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 07:59 PM (/VB9J)

Yup....lots of gambling, suicide, erotic homosexuals, prostitutes, more gambling, KP duty and a stay in the brig, infantry company politics, more homo stuff and more prostitutes plus lots of drinking then the Japs attack which puts an end to all the fun.

Not much has change in Hawaii over the years.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 08:04 PM (EoRCO)

229 Zulu should be watched after Zulu Dawn

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:04 PM (aC6Sd)

230 I thought that Bligh was found not guilty in the court martial, but was NEVER given command again.

That's what my mom said. But then, she would make up a story every now and then. Like how I am one-eighth Indian.

Posted by: JAS at May 26, 2018 08:04 PM (ii30j)

231 The rest of the movie sucked, but the actual attack on Pearl Harbor in "Pearl Harbor" was good.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:04 PM (ANIFC)

232 I hope it rains its so humid here

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:05 PM (/VB9J)

233 #199 There was a reality-TV recreation of Bligh's journey to Timor (six parts as I recall) that has it's problems but has some good moments too. See the sock link. I don't know if any are on YouTube to watch.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:05 PM (Evws/)

234 Probably already been mentioned but Taking Chance will make you cry, don't care who you are.

Posted by: John Marston at May 26, 2018 08:05 PM (SkuXa)

235 Whew! Not Number One!
Posted by: Jimmah Carter, Operation Eagle Claw at May 26, 2018 08:03 PM (QLvwG)

High five, bro!

Posted by: Zombie James Buchanan at May 26, 2018 08:05 PM (U7voe)

236 Watching "From here to Eternity" in TCM.

Posted by: JAS at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (ii30j)

237 I hope Soylo does badly.

Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2018 08:02 PM (QCc6B)


--

IIRC Disney came out and made a big deal announcement about a future standalone Barbara Fett movie on opening weekend to distract from opening weekend.

Because that's normal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (VgKNm)

238 A Walk in the Sun is one of my all time faves.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (ojwL9)

239 Banastre Tarleton carried 4 captured Revolutionary Army Battle Flags back to England with him, where he hung them in his manor at Hampshire. Americans tried to get them returned, since there are only about 30 confirmed Revolutionary War flags still in existence, but his descendants had always refused. Finally, in 2005, his descendant finally agreed to sell them back to the Americans - for several million dollars, of course.

Assholes right up to the end.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (V2Yro)

240 Firearms were developed during the age of armor. Firearms won that argument. Though there were elite cavalry units that wore armored helmets & chestplates called "currassiers." The armor was mainly ornamental, though it could protect against the sabers & lances of other horsemen
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:39 PM (ANIFC)


Not quite true. Plate was capable of protecting a man from early firearms; the English used to shoot a chest piece and then circle the dent to show that it could withstand a round. However, fulling outfitting entire armies was difficult and expensive, and part of the value of firearms was the ability to rapidly train massive numbers of recruits. Plus, for a long time warfare involved less open combat and more maneuvering for an advantageous position and siegecraft. Why waste time on armor if everything was going to be decided in a single battle, or a ten-month siege?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (Tnhbr)

241 The one thing I didn't like about "The Patriot" was the scene where the British burned a church with the people locked inside. Was there a documented instance of that happening during the American Revolution? If so, I'm unaware of it. I'm inclined to call BS.

On the other hand, the Muslims in Nigeria call that "Sunday".

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (sdi6R)

242 Mel Gibson: faithful husband, loving father. But put pointy instruments in his hands and he becomes a whirling dervish of death.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (yQpMk)

243 My problem with the Patriot was Mel was supposed to be a planter, then he is supposed to be the Deerslayer. The two don't mix in Charleston. A Swamp Fox character would have been a more believable model to go with.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:07 PM (vV/gB)

244 TCM ran a John Ford propoganda piece about Pearl Harbor. Do any of you historians know if there was ever an investigation into spying and sabotage by the local Japanese population? If so, what happened?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:07 PM (+Tibp)

245 231 The rest of the movie sucked, but the actual attack on Pearl Harbor in "Pearl Harbor" was good.
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:04 PM (ANIFC)

I agree. But I must add that all the nurses in that movie were so beautiful. Kate Beckinsale, whoosh!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 08:07 PM (Mkuv2)

246 "Bin Laden used Clinton's cowardice as proof of America's paper Tiger status. When the going gets tough we pull out.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:00 PM (+"

We were debating this earlier today under the banner of WTF was he thinking?

UBL had been exposed to us enough to know that at the dawn of the 21st century we would not back down. We partially concluded another thing he got wrong was the Vietnam analogy. That he could draw us into a protracted fight and civilian pressure would eventually get us to pull back. Partially right with PBO. But he underestimated the effect continually attacking or populace would have.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (SeyTv)

247 No. 1 Son saw Solo today and loved it. (He loves everything the first time he sees it, it takes repeat viewings for him to have any perspective).

It's strictly for fans, though, he tells me. You have to care about the origin of a bet between Han and Lando. I don't.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (fuK7c)

248 Greetings:

A couple of evenings back I watched a RoKorea film entitled "Steel Rain" over the internet. It included, among other things, NORK assassin sent south, NORK military coup, tough-guy RoK President, pacifist RoK President-elect,
Trump-esque American President, and a chubby RoK analyst who befriends the assassin. Pretty darn good,

Worst bit was when the blonde CIA biddy went off the reservation (if that makes any sense these days) and into a progressive gun control elucidation.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (evgyj)

249 its problems
Darn tablet.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (Evws/)

250 hope it rains its so humid here

Posted by: kallisto


Where you ?

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (ojwL9)

251
Yup....lots of gambling, suicide, erotic homosexuals, prostitutes, more gambling, KP duty and a stay in the brig, infantry company politics, more homo stuff and more prostitutes plus lots of drinking then the Japs attack which puts an end to all the fun.

You forgot the murder. The stockade episode is brutal.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 08:09 PM (3ZK+G)

252 I'm also waiting for the SJW crowd to realize he says "ni**er" eighty thousand times in every movie he makes and Unperson him.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (U7voe)

++++

To go after Tarantino for that, they'd also have to get Samuel L. Jackson in the process, since he's the guy whose actually saying the word somewhere around 90% of the time. The Black community is not going to smear Samuel L. Jackson. Or even Jamie Foxx.

Tarantino gets a pass as long as he has prominent black actors in his movies.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 08:09 PM (pvjTE)

253 231 The rest of the movie sucked, but the actual attack on Pearl Harbor in "Pearl Harbor" was good."

The only Pearl Harbor movie worth watching is "Tora, Tora, Tora!" the later Pearl Harbor movie plagiarized "Tora Tora Tora" but also decided "hey lets throw in a boatload of crap that has nothing at all to do with the battle and which means nothing at all, I'll bet people will love that!!!"

Tora, Tora, Tora is on my top 10 list of war movies. Easily.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:09 PM (V2Yro)

254 I'm amazed that no one has done a series centered on the Thirty-Years War. Multiple factions, religious conflict, betrayal, battles mixing medieval combat with the rise of early-modern weapons and theories of warfare...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:10 PM (Tnhbr)

255 Nothing to do with Memorial Day except for the miltary connection, but I've been enjoying the Sharpe's series with Sean Bean. I like his portrayal and the rest of his company. And the weapons are correct, a rare thing in films.


I read somewhere that Cornwell wasn't pleased at Bean being cast since he didn't look like the books description. But he became such a fan during the series he modified Sharpe's description in later books. Haven't read them all yet so I can't confirm that.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 08:10 PM (V+03K)

256 UBL had been exposed to us enough to know that at the dawn of the 21st century we would not back down.


He thought that our reaction would force the Ummah to take sides and rally radical Islam to victory over the West.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:10 PM (yQpMk)

257 "Gardens of Stone". It's set in the Old Guard, the oldest U.S Army Infantry unit and the army's official ceremonial unit. They do all the burials at Arlington and guard the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. James Earl Jones is the CSM and James Caan is an SFC. Kind 1980's corny but a good look, if I recall, of the real Army.

Posted by: Javems at May 26, 2018 08:11 PM (vBx1s)

258 Now I'm remembering that there really needs to be a good movie made about the 6-day War in 1967. Lots of incredibly good material, and the title is obvious - "Torah, Torah, Torah!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:11 PM (V2Yro)

259 it's hard to judge the film based on any typical narrative formulae.

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I had a girl tell me that the movie has no plot but, of course, that's not true. I guess she meant there was no two guys forced by war to cooperate despite fighting over a chick plot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 08:11 PM (+y/Ru)

260 Whoever made that Pearl Harbor movie with the effeminate douche Affleck should be put up against a wall and shot.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 08:12 PM (SeyTv)

261 War movies that need more attention
When the Trumpets fade

Operation Chromite, I enjoyed it because it shoes the Commies hanging people who didn't conform.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 26, 2018 08:12 PM (dKiJG)

262 Tora, Tora, Tora is on my top 10 list of war movies. Easily.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:09 PM (V2Yro)


It should be on everyone's IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfdQod8HTw

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:12 PM (fZuhk)

263 >> I will binge watch "Band of Brothers" on Sunday.


That is so good!
Never saw The Pacific War, though (or whatever it was called).

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (W+vEI)

264 so how do you trim the 30 years war down to 90 minutes? The most concise book is the one written by Cicely Wedgwood and that one was 2" think in the trade edition.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (2K6fY)

265 "The Puppet Masters" about space slugs that attach to the spine and control humans, as they are wont t

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Does explain the Democrats.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (+y/Ru)

266 I'm amazed that no one has done a series centered on the Thirty-Years War. Multiple factions, religious conflict, betrayal, battles mixing medieval combat with the rise of early-modern weapons and theories of warfare...
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:10 PM (Tnhbr)

With a lot of those European wars, you'd need to give out flowcharts with the DVD set so everyone could follow the factions and who's who's great grand nephew twice removed and who's only *once* removed (Looking at you, War of Spanish Succession).

Posted by: Zombie James Buchanan at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (U7voe)

267 You forgot the murder. The stockade episode is brutal.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 08:09 PM (3ZK+G)

Yup...sorry about that, murder too.

The book was long, boring and kinda drab. The movie played fast and loose with the crappy book and was far more entertaining, which is not usually the case.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (EoRCO)

268 260 Whoever made that Pearl Harbor movie with the effeminate douche Affleck should be put up against a wall and shot.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 08:12 PM (SeyTv)

=====

Michael Bay.

Shot for Pearl Harbor and then celebrated for 13 Hours?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (u8L+n)

269 254
I'm amazed that no one has done a series centered on the Thirty-Years War.

I suspect there are some smaller movies about it out there, but regardless, it's a really depressing time in history with nobody that anyone now knows or cares about. The reasons for the war are incomprehensible to most people. Guaranteed box office poison.

Now, put a Kate Upton in there, and you might have something.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (LAe3v)

270 >>Whoever made that Pearl Harbor movie with the effeminate douche Affleck should be put up against a wall and shot.




Nah, he redeemed himself with "13 Hours."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (W+vEI)

271 254 I'm amazed that no one has done a series centered on the Thirty-Years War. Multiple factions, religious conflict, betrayal, battles mixing medieval combat with the rise of early-modern weapons and theories of warfare...
-------------------------
You're describing AOS.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (vV/gB)

272 No. 1 Son saw Solo today and loved it. (He loves
everything the first time he sees it, it takes repeat viewings for him
to have any perspective).



It's strictly for fans, though, he tells me. You have to care about the origin of a bet between Han and Lando. I don't.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (fuK7c)


---

If I'm honest, one of the biggest things that pisses me off is that Disney decided to make a bunch of movies for kids that kids shouldn't go see.

Pansexual black dudes that will f*ck anything and that Disney's movie explicitly addresses?

Yeah, let me explain that to my kids.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 08:14 PM (VgKNm)

273 I have mixed feelings about Saving Private Ryan. Its a great movie in parts, a bleh movie in parts, and obnoxiously manipulative in parts. It feels incomplete, or at least, in pieces. There are some nice sequences, but there's not enough tying it together into a single story. The last act feels very contrived for the last scene, rather than reasonable behavior or events. You have so little sense of the size and scope of the German forces, so there is no real sense of the challenge they face. Everything in the German army seems to be coming down a couple of streets, and the rest of the entire city utterly deserted, which seems implausible, to say the least.

I can't like it, but I can't really dislike it, either. There weren't any truly sympathetic, likable characters. Nobody had to be a standout hero but you never really got to know anyone like you did in even one episode of Band of Brothers, for example.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:14 PM (39g3+)

274 While they are technically not movies, I thought that Band of Brothers and The Pacific were both good. Hanks and Spielberg wet their beaks with Saving Matt Damon, but the scripts were better. We can just pretend they were a couple of really long movies.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (9BLnV)

275 13 Hours. Meh. The book was better. M

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (SeyTv)

276 264 so how do you trim the 30 years war down to 90 minutes? The most concise book is the one written by Cicely Wedgwood and that one was 2" think in the trade edition.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (2K6fY)

======

The mistake would be to try and do the whole thing.

Picking out individual interesting stories to tell is the way to go.

No one makes movies that encompass all of WWII.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (u8L+n)

277 250 - philly burbs

Posted by: Kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (/VB9J)

278 "The Odd Angry Shot" is a good Aussie Vietnam War movie. Sock link about it.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (Evws/)

279 Watching The Green Berets on TV right now. I spent most of my childhood watching John Wayne win wars, conquer Africa and put out oil well fires. They do not make movies - or stars - like that any more. (And dammit, GET OFF MY LAWN!)

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (PzBTm)

280 so how do you trim the 30 years war down to 90 minutes? The most concise book is the one written by Cicely Wedgwood and that one was 2" think in the trade edition.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (2K6fY)


Don't. Do a series on Netflix or HBO. Focus on a few characters, even if fictional, and focus on the goal of surviving in a world that has gone insane.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (Tnhbr)

281 Maybe some specific characters from the pike and shot era, or before. Gotz of the Iron Hand needs his origin story told, I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_von_Berlichingen

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (U7voe)

282 "The Odd Angry Shot" is a good Aussie Vietnam War movie. Sock link about it.
Posted by: andycanuck

That's it! I was trying to remember the title. Thank

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (+Tibp)

283 The Patriot was just not a very good movie to me. Mel Gibson's character is well done but the rest is just a mess. The British commander is pointlessly psychotic, the kind of guy who'd never make it far in his position. The battle scenes feel less like they're part of a sequence of events than the director's efforts to state a bitchen battle scene. All of the characters are pretty flat cardboard cutouts who behave exactly as you'd expect them to, and no more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (39g3+)

284 philly burbs

Same here.

You're right, its humid, but a nice breeze comes up once in awhile.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (ojwL9)

285 253
Tora, Tora, Tora is on my top 10 list of war movies. Easily.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:09 PM (V2Yro)


Seconded.

"Pearl Harbor" had some moments. The aftermath where they were trying to free the men trapped in the capsized battleship was a good scene.

Also Kate Beckinsale rocked a 1941 swimsuit.

But the CGI dogfights were awful. They would have been fine for videogames, but not for a movie about an historical event.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

286 For my money, Kelly's Heros is the one.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:17 PM (vV/gB)

287 255 Nothing to do with Memorial Day except for the miltary connection, but I've been enjoying the Sharpe's series with Sean Bean. I like his portrayal and the rest of his company. And the weapons are correct, a rare thing in films.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 08:10 PM"

I've watched that through, and I've read that the producers took great pains to get the uniforms of all of the different units correct in every army, to the point that Sharpe's Rifles is considered to be one of the most accurately costumed historical war dramas ever filmed. (Barry Lyndon also took great pains at accuracy)

You may have got to the episode where Sharpe interacts with a very daft and idiotic Prince Regent. (later to become George IV) Accounts written at the time seem to agree that this was a pretty accurate portrayal of the Prince Regent - but what is fun is the actor who portrays him, noted writer and director Julian Fellows. He's marvelous in the role!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:17 PM (V2Yro)

288 267 yes the stockade brutality stuck in my brain, I was young and unaware that Americans would treat fellow citizens that way

Posted by: Kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:18 PM (/VB9J)

289 it's a really depressing time in history with nobody that anyone now knows or cares about. The reasons for the war are incomprehensible to most people.

I'd actually play that up: focus on the idea that people caught in the middle and trying to survive have only the vaguest idea about why all this crap is happening.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:18 PM (Tnhbr)

290 That is so good!
Never saw The Pacific War, though (or whatever it was called).
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (W+vEI)


It's got a very different feel, probably because of the source material. It basically follows two Marines and peripherally some of the guys in their orbit rather than being a comprehensive story about an entire company like BoB.

I happen to prefer BoB, but that's purely subjective.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:18 PM (fZuhk)

291 It's strictly for fans, though, he tells me. You have to care about the origin of a bet between Han and Lando. I don't.

When I heard about the film the first time I knew it was going to be nothing more than a bunch of set pieces showing all of Han Solo's distinctives. Kind of like the intro to Last Crusade showed us everything about Indy (where he got his name, where he got the hat, where he learned how to use a whip, where he got the scar on his chin etc) all in one 10 minute sequence, but Solo is just "how did he get his vest? Why is he called Solo? How did he meet Chebacca and get the Falcon?" Instead of a story or a plot, its just Q&A with video game sequences.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:18 PM (39g3+)

292
"The Odd Angry Shot" is a good Aussie Vietnam War movie. Sock link about it.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM



You just reminded me of a war movie I liked, called Attack Force Z.

Early 80s. Mel Gibson, Sam Neill, John Phillip Law. WWII, iirc a squad of Aussie commandos on a mission on Jap held island to rescue someone.

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 08:18 PM (EzdLW)

293 JT I did not know u were a phillyburbian.

Posted by: Kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (/VB9J)

294 Also, I rewatched Midway today and I can't for the life of me understand why Hollywood has not given this battle a better treatment. So important and the events are almost unbelievable. I'd like to see it.

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Whoteywood likes fake drama more than real drama.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (+y/Ru)

295 Bligh's ship HMSGlatton, did a good job at the battle of Copenhagen under VADM Nelson.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (hyuyC)

296 Never saw The Pacific War, though (or whatever it was called).
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (W+vEI)

"The Pacific' was dark, very dark. But it drew faithfully from memoirs written by E.B. Sledge and Robert Leckie, et al. But, in many ways, fighting the Japanese Empire was a far different animal. Which is why it feels so much different than Band of Brothers. Medics and Corpsmen shed their red crosses, picked up weapons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (Mkuv2)

297 I have always like Murphy's War. Peter O'Toole never gives up, never surrenders and gets vengeance for his shipmates.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (QLvwG)

298 283
The Patriot was just not a very good movie to me. Mel Gibson's
character is well done but the rest is just a mess. The British
commander is pointlessly psychotic, the kind of guy who'd never make it
far in his position. The battle scenes feel less like they're part of a
sequence of events than the director's efforts to state a bitchen
battle scene. All of the characters are pretty flat cardboard cutouts
who behave exactly as you'd expect them to, and no more.

Disagree. I thought Jason Isaacs as Tarleton was quite good and Tom Wilkinson as Cornwallis was splendid.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:20 PM (LAe3v)

299 Also Kate Beckinsale rocked a 1941 swimsuit.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

I think her specialty is, "Great looking woman in otherwise terrible movie". See: Pearl Harbor, Van Helsing, the Underworld series.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:20 PM (U7voe)

300 Has buzzsaw90 been around? He lives nearby

Posted by: Kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:20 PM (/VB9J)

301 297 I have always like Murphy's War. Peter O'Toole never gives up, never surrenders and gets vengeance for his shipmates.
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Yeah, remember that one. Probably the best war movie was Lawrence of Arabia. Amazing movie.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:20 PM (vV/gB)

302 JT I did not know u were a phillyburbian.

Yep.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 08:21 PM (ojwL9)

303 248 Greetings:

A couple of evenings back I watched a RoKorea film entitled "Steel Rain" over the internet. It included, among other things, NORK assassin sent south, NORK military coup, tough-guy RoK President, pacifist RoK President-elect,
Trump-esque American President, and a chubby RoK analyst who befriends the assassin. Pretty darn good,

Worst bit was when the blonde CIA biddy went off the reservation (if that makes any sense these days) and into a progressive gun control elucidation.
Posted by: 11B40 at May 26, 2018 08:08 PM (evgyj)

On Netflix.

Northern Limit Line is another ok movie, about the North being asses during the World Cup and everyone thought they would pull the same shit during the Olympics

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 26, 2018 08:21 PM (dKiJG)

304 Another one that would be interesting is Italy during the 14th Century. Follow John Hawkwood and the White Company. Again, you have warfare, politics, intrigue, etc.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:21 PM (Tnhbr)

305 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk

M*A*S*H

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 26, 2018 08:21 PM (PzBTm)

306 "The Odd Angry Shot" is a good Aussie Vietnam War movie. Sock link about it.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (Evws/)

Thanks Andy! I am gonna check it out.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 08:21 PM (EoRCO)

307 veterans of d-day praised the invasion scenes.

veterans of wwII said about the rest: no one cried.

this veteran of movies walked out (i.e. changed the channel) from the over-saturation of maudlin sentimentality. the entire premise was preposterous and just an excuse for spielberg to emote.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 08:22 PM (Pg+x7)

308 I was just out to bring stuff in, thought its nice out

283 - I agree, its not favorite of mine

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:22 PM (aC6Sd)

309 Tom Wilkinson was a good Cornwallis. Then he came back in John Adams and played Ben Franklin!

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:22 PM (U7voe)

310 Gotz of the Iron Hand needs his origin story told, I think:

The man who made famous the phrase "They can Lick my Ass!!!" deserves homage from us all!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:22 PM (V2Yro)

311 ... IN MY OPINION.

(sheeesh)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 08:23 PM (Pg+x7)

312 I'm amazed that no one has done a series centered on the Thirty-Years War. Multiple factions, religious conflict, betrayal, battles mixing medieval combat with the rise of early-modern weapons and theories of warfare...

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The Last Valley is more set during the Thirty Years War than about it, but there's one movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 08:23 PM (+y/Ru)

313 If you want a read a grisly war novel, I can suggest The Five Fingers. German vets serving in French Foreign Legion in Vietnam (Indochina). My Recon Marines loved that book.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:23 PM (vV/gB)

314 I'd actually play that up: focus on the idea that
people caught in the middle and trying to survive have only the vaguest
idea about why all this crap is happening.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile[/i
Oh, I'd watch it for sure. However, I think we can all agree that the AoSHQ cohort is a bit.....atypical.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:23 PM (LAe3v)

315 American imprisoned by Venezuela for 2 years is free

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:23 PM (aC6Sd)

316 Nothing to do with Memorial Day except for the military connection, but I've been enjoying the Sharpe's series with Sean Bean.

They did okay with incredibly limited resources (like the BBC Narnia series). I'd love to see it redone with enough money and time to do the stories accurately and properly. Who you'd cast though, I don't know because Sean is perfect for the role.

Band of Brothers was a masterpiece but Pacific was just... not. If it had come out first, maybe it would have been less of a crushing disappointment to me, but it just was a failure. I mean they took 2 1/2 episodes to tell the Battle of the Buldge in BoB, but they took less than 1 episode to do Guadalcanal? Really?? It moved too fast, there wasn't anyone to really like or identify with, and there's a worse problem.

The breakdown of the marines on Gudalcanal makes sense... if you understand how long, hard, and painful it was with such limited resources. But the single episode dealing with the battles there didn't show it. If you know all that, it kinda holds up, but if you don't it just looks like marines are p*ssies who break down in a few firefights.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (39g3+)

317 The only thing concerning me about the movies is this;

How bad will Solo suck?
How much will it disappoint?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (EZebt)

318 But the CGI dogfights were awful.


That's something that took me a while to appreciate. In the sixties-ish the war was only twenty years old and there was still lots of surplus kit so they could make movies with real planes and tanks and whatnot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (fuK7c)

319 . I thought Jason Isaacs as Tarleton was quite good and Tom Wilkinson as Cornwallis was splendid.
Posted by: pep

The character Tavington was loosely based on Banastre Tarleton who massacred surrendering troops at the battle of Waxhaws. Upon returning to England he was promoted and elected MP from Liverpool.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (f3MDZ)

320 I like to rewatch The Longest Day every couple of years. Every man who was somebody in Hollywood at the time is in it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (yQpMk)

321 305 Are there any movies set during the Korean war? Obviously there must be some, but nothing immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:22 PM (fZuhk
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The Bridge at Toko Ri. I do not recommend it. Hard to believe Mickey Rooney as a combat vet.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:25 PM (vV/gB)

322 Let's throw Puddin' Head from a Prague window!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:25 PM (Evws/)

323 309
Tom Wilkinson was a good Cornwallis. Then he came back in John Adams and played Ben Franklin!

Posted by: Vanya

My favorite lines: "Damn him. Damn that man!", and "you dream, general".

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:25 PM (LAe3v)

324 no one cried.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 08:25 PM (Pg+x7)

325 Are there any movies set during the Korean war?

Pork Chop Hill, about a pointless brutal fight during the peace talks, Gregory Peck stars. Pretty good flick.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:25 PM (39g3+)

326 From Here to Eternity is on. The movie is much tamer than the first-edition novel, which is much tamer than the original version Jones wrote.
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They're at Hotel Street right now. I'd forgotten how seedy and sad some bits of the movie are.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:26 PM (qJtVm)

327 I hope Soylo does badly.
Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2018 08:02 PM (QCc6B)


========

I don't think you have anything to worry about. From boxoffice mojo for opening days:

Rogue One: 71m
Force Awakens: 119m
Last Jedi: 104m

Solo: (est) 35m

They take a franchise that even a nutless monkey could produce profitably, and the SJWs fuck it up. Maybe Disney will shake up its Star Wars division as they did with Marvel comics and ESPN.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 08:26 PM (/qEW2)

328 They're at Hotel Street right now. I'd forgotten how seedy and sad some bits of the movie are.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Montgomery Clift is hitting on George Baily's wife.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:27 PM (+Tibp)

329 My favorite lines: "Damn him. Damn that man!", and "you dream, general".


Posted by: pep

I forgot "how did it come to this". So simple, but masterfully delivered.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:27 PM (LAe3v)

330 The one thing I didn't like about "The Patriot" was the scene where the British burned a church with the people locked inside. Was there a documented instance of that happening during the American Revolution? If so, I'm unaware of it. I'm inclined to call BS.

On the other hand, the Muslims in Nigeria call that "Sunday".
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:06 PM (sdi6R)

Its called artistic license. If you know your history, you know that Braveheart was just for popular consumption. The names of the battles are correct. Well, almost. It was the Battle of Stirling Bridge. Didn't see a bridge, did you? Very little else is accurate, though. But, hey if real life was as exciting as movies, we probably wouldn't go, would we? Except for the overpriced popcorn and candy. And to sit next to little Susie in the dark.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 08:27 PM (9BLnV)

331 266 I'm amazed that no one has done a series centered on the Thirty-Years War. Multiple factions, religious conflict, betrayal, battles mixing medieval combat with the rise of early-modern weapons and theories of warfare...
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:10 PM (Tnhbr)

With a lot of those European wars, you'd need to give out flowcharts with the DVD set so everyone could follow the factions and who's who's great grand nephew twice removed and who's only *once* removed (Looking at you, War of Spanish Succession).

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The War of Spanish Succession is easy to understand compared to the Thirty Years War. I'd like to find a book on the prior All-Europe killfest, the War of The Grand Alliance, aka War of The League of Augsburg.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:27 PM (ANIFC)

332 Hence: Part Three is in the final stages and should go live soon.
Paying attention to continuity sucks.
Exit right to Funway.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 26, 2018 08:28 PM (l9m7l)

333 The breakdown of the marines on Gudalcanal makes sense... if you understand how long, hard, and painful it was with such limited resources. But the single episode dealing with the battles there didn't show it. If you know all that, it kinda holds up, but if you don't it just looks like marines are p*ssies who break down in a few firefights.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (39g3+)

BoB had one training episode and the rest of the series covered about ten months of time. I haven't finished The Pacific, but if it ends on Okinawa that's three years from Henderson Field and Iron Bottom Sound. They tried to put too much stuff into too short of a space and the storytelling suffers.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:28 PM (U7voe)

334 320 I like to rewatch The Longest Day every couple of years. Every man who was somebody in Hollywood at the time is in it."

John Wayne didn't want to do it, because he was pissed at Zanuck at the time. Zanuck begged him to do it, and Wayne said he would only do it for a million dollars, which was an order of magnitude more than anyone else was paid, and a ridiculous amount for the size of his part. Wayne was stunned when Zanuck agreed, and so he just said, okay, I'm in, if you really want me that bad.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:29 PM (V2Yro)

335 Someone needs to make Sir Nigel and The White Company as films but in today's film climate it would never happen. Too much unabashed heroism, honor, masculinity, commitment to duty, and raw goodness on display.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:29 PM (39g3+)

336 Speaking of period pieces, I enjoyed Rob Roy. I think it is one of Liam Neeson's best jobs.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 08:29 PM (9BLnV)

337 From Here to Eternity is on. The movie is much tamer than the first-edition novel, which is much tamer than the original version Jones wrote.
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How do you find the original Jones version ?

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 08:29 PM (ojwL9)

338 If you haven't ever read Cornelius Ryan's The Longest Day, its the source of the movie.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:29 PM (aC6Sd)

339 If you want LULZ at Soylo's expense, I give you Razorfist's breakdown of opening weekend:
https://youtu.be/jo1gfiitKrM

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (f3MDZ)

340 >>I think her specialty is, "Great looking woman in otherwise terrible movie". See: Pearl Harbor, Van Helsing, the Underworld series.




"I saw something nasty in the woodshed!"

No, wait, Beckinsale was a delight in "Cold Comfort Farm."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (W+vEI)

341 327
They take a franchise that even a nutless monkey could produce profitably, and the SJWs fuck it up. Maybe Disney will shake up its Star Wars division as they did with Marvel comics and ESPN.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 08:26 PM (/qEW2)

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Fire Kathleen Kennedy.

Hire me.

Fixed.

Call me, Disney.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (u8L+n)

342 Is Kingdom of Heaven a war movie?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (yQpMk)

343 Beckinsale was terrific in "Love and Friendship", flicks.one of the better Austin

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:31 PM (qJtVm)

344 342 Is Kingdom of Heaven a war movie?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (yQpMk)

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I would classify it so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 08:31 PM (u8L+n)

345 Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (u8L+n)

Please tell me you'll declare TFA and Last Jedi non-canon and tell them to film Heir to the Empire.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:31 PM (U7voe)

346 Except for the overpriced popcorn and candy. And to sit next to little Susie in the dark.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male
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Little Susie and I quit going to the movies. We would drive out into the woods and park.

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (Xgp3y)

347 If you want a read a grisly war novel, I can suggest The Five Fingers. German vets serving in French Foreign Legion in Vietnam (Indochina). My Recon Marines loved that book.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 26, 2018 08:23 PM (vV/gB)


Not about the MRE entree, then?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (fZuhk)

348 As far as stars today, I think Mark Wahlberg is about the best in that he plays great roles like Perfect Storm, Lone Survivor, Deep-water Horizon and the movie about the Boston Marathon bombing.

I don't know if he's left or right, but he keeps his mouth shut. And that's all I ask for.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (+Tibp)

349 Ha, the Four Fingers of Death. Worse than the chicken bar?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (qJtVm)

350 Long day.

Nite all.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (ojwL9)

351 318 But the CGI dogfights were awful.


That's something that took me a while to appreciate. In the sixties-ish the war was only twenty years old and there was still lots of surplus kit so they could make movies with real planes and tanks and whatnot.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 08:24 PM (fuK7c)

It's a trade-off. The 60s WWII movies used real tanks & planes, but they were largely inaccurate, sometimes laughably so. But contemporary movies can get the details right with CG, but CG still looks like CG.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (ANIFC)

352 No, wait, Beckinsale was a delight in "Cold Comfort Farm."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:30

There's always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (jeQxb)

353 Beckinsale was also lovely in the enjoyable "Much Ado About Nothing." Keanu, though....was an interesting choice.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (W+vEI)

354 I don't know if he's left or right, but he keeps his mouth shut. And that's all I ask for.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (+Tibp)


"I can't spare this man, he acts"

- Shit Lincoln said, probably

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (fZuhk)

355 I think the final swordfight scene in Rob Roy makes the whole film. Its a classic confrontation between someone incredibly superior to the other showing desperation and determination winning out over arrogance.

At this point I think the only way to fix the Star Wars franchise is to take a few years off then do something different, like one of the game plots or some of the books. A film based on the Knights of the Old Republic, for example.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (39g3+)

356 Is Kingdom of Heaven a war movie?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (yQpMk)

It's a heavy handed message about racism and tolerance with a story glued onto it.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (U7voe)

357 here's a mash-up of "the patriot" and "saving private ryan":

i knew someone who was a concientious objector in ww II. he was an actual pacifist. he volunteered for civil service which included medical experiments on high altitude effects - they put him in a pressure chamber and raised and lowered the air pressure. he didn't have to do it and did so willingly.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (Pg+x7)

358 Puddin Head @ 313- The Five Fingers. Read that one years ago. Still around here somewheres and a real good read.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (zLDYs)

359 348 - Wahlberg is a conservative Catholic who attends daily mass

Posted by: Kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (/VB9J)

360 I watch the Patriot quite often. My dog likes to watch horses and dogs on TV, and the Patriot has those in spades!

As far as the movie itself... quite good overall.

Savings Private Ryan is ok until Tom Hank's character gets shot. It seems over-the-top at that point.

As far as what I am watching this weekend... just finished watching Shrek. :-P

Posted by: Ann at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (e59uY)

361 Is Last of the Mohicans a war movie?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (yQpMk)

362 Please tell me you'll declare TFA and Last Jedi non-canon and tell them to film Heir to the Empire.
Posted by: Vanya

Who'd be Thrawn? You'd have to cast outside of the Hollywood mainstream. All of the actors with a high enough T-level would be too old at this point.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (f3MDZ)

363 I like Mark Walberg in movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (aC6Sd)

364 No, wait, Beckinsale was a delight in "Cold Comfort Farm."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:30 PM (W+vEI)

THERE IS NO BUTTER IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (U7voe)

365 Just thinking about the Thirty Years War makes my brain hurt.

I think somebody wrote a massive book about it recently which I haven't read.

I don't think even a miniseries would be enough.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (sdi6R)

366 Someone mentioned a recently-found Spanish treasure-ship wreck lost in 1701 and I looked it up and the BBC and Ntl Geo did a crap job of describing the War of Spanish Succession that I used as an example of Gel-Mann amnesia in action.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (Evws/)

367 I don't know if he's left or right, but he keeps his mouth shut. And that's all I ask for.

Both Wahlbergs are pretty right leaning but yeah they aren't mouthy about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (39g3+)

368 Ha, the Four Fingers of Death. Worse than the chicken bar?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (qJtVm)


The worst thing about the chicken bar is waking up the next morning and realizing you went to the chicken bar.

Wait, what were we talking about?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (fZuhk)

369 Little Susie and I quit going to the movies. We would drive out into the woods and park.
Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (Xgp3y)

You mean Susie didn't get any popcorn or candy first? Man, you're cheap. And my hero!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (9BLnV)

370 The problem with war movies is that if you make them realistic they aren't very fun to watch but if you make them fun to watch they won't be real.

War sucks, even for the winners. The wrong people live, and the good people die. Heroes come home, some crippled physically, some crippled psychologically, all of them changed. Innocence is the first casualty.

I served in peacetime so I never saw combat, and I am glad for that. But I know what the military is like. I served with a lot of Vietnam veterans as my NCO's and officers. None of them wanted to talk about it much.

The guys who fought knew they could never explain what it was like to the people who stayed home. So they learned to answer questions in a monotone. "I was in the XX Division stationed at YY."

But every so often those memories come back like it was just yesterday.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (5fSr7)

371 HA! Bubba Ho-Tep is on the MGM Channel. Love that movie!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:36 PM (V2Yro)

372 There was a Korean War film about a horndog surgeon in a MASH unit chasing nurses. Not MASH, a not too good drama starring Humphrey Bogart entitled Battle Circus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 08:36 PM (+y/Ru)

373 I enjoyed The Patriot. And Gettysburg. Always watch that over the 4th of July.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2018 08:36 PM (jeQxb)

374 293 JT I did not know u were a phillyburbian.
Posted by: Kallisto at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (/VB9J)

We should have a Philly MoMe.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:36 PM (ANIFC)

375 Mark Wahlberg is about the best in that he plays great roles like Perfect Storm, Lone Survivor, Deep-water Horizon and the movie about the Boston Marathon bombing.

I don't know if he's left or right, but he keeps his mouth shut. And that's all I ask for.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:32 PM (+Tibp)

I recall Wahlberg talking about meeting Marcus Luttrell and saying later, something along the lines of not feeling like he could make it work, if for no other reason, than Luttrell being about a foot taller.

In short, Wahlberg was honored to try and fill the role. I think he's good people.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 08:36 PM (Mkuv2)

376 205
From Here to Eternity is on. The movie is much tamer than the first-edition novel, which is much tamer than the original version Jones wrote.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 07:57 PM (3ZK+G)

++++

Are you talking about the gay stuff his daughter claimed was originally in the book?

The original manuscript of From Here to Eternity went into "great detail" about the kinds of sexual favours soldiers like Private Angelo Maggio, played in the film by Frank Sinatra, would provide to rich gay men for money, Kaylie Jones revealed in an article written for US news website the Daily Beast.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/nov
/13/censored-gay-sex-scenes-here-eternity

She came up with this stuff in 2009. Her father was long dead, so he couldn't complain. And, it gave her an excuse to release a new version of the book with the "original" passages restored, and make some money.

I call bullshit.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 08:36 PM (pvjTE)

377 Awesome news about the American released from Chez Chavez.

The fact that it embarrasses The Donald's predecessors is just gravy.

Oh, and Black Hawk Down is the best war/combat movie made since 2000.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 08:37 PM (e7oj4)

378 I take back what I wrote, Garry Oldman could pull off Adm. Thrawn really well.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:37 PM (f3MDZ)

379 Please tell me you'll declare TFA and Last Jedi non-canon and tell them to film Heir to the Empire.
Posted by: Vanya

It moved.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:37 PM (ANIFC)

380 Yes, Last of the Mohicans is a war move, French and Indian war. To me one of the most beautiful movies filmed

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:38 PM (aC6Sd)

381 The battle of Agincourt in the movie adaptation of Henry V by Kenneth Brannaugh was great, at least I think it was.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:39 PM (nBr1j)

382 Give me time and I'll atone for the wrong my man did your father.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:39 PM (yQpMk)

383 I recall one case of sabotage. IIRC some pilot crash landed on one of the islands and some Jap Hawaiian helped him out somehow.

Also read of Japanese agetns trying to get Japs in CA to work for their side, not sure they had any success, but that wa why FDR did the concentration camps, for fear of that, and there was evidence they tried.

Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2018 08:39 PM (yJ1e6)

384 378
I take back what I wrote, Garry Oldman could pull off Adm. Thrawn really well.

phrasing?

Posted by: Anachronda at May 26, 2018 08:39 PM (2//jc)

385 Yes, Last of the Mohicans is a war move, French and Indian war. To me one of the most beautiful movies filmed
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:38 PM (aC6Sd)


Certainly one of the better musical scores.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (fZuhk)

386 death becomes her is good and deserves its cult status

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (D0Hw0)

387 Yes, Last of the Mohicans is a war move, French and Indian war. To me one of the most beautiful movies filmed


I think it's a love story, or perhaps an adventure story, set in a war. The movie isn't about the war per se.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (yQpMk)

388 365 Just thinking about the Thirty Years War makes my brain hurt. "

It started off as "Lets all of us Catholic Kingdoms kick the Protestants butts once and for all" and they did, for a while, but then Catholic France figured out that the Catholic Hapsburgs were gonna get way too strong, so they switched sides, and then there was a huge mercenary army that switched sides, and then when it looked bad for the protestants the Swedes, who no one had paid attention to, said "hey we've just built a new army that's better than all of yours, so we're jumping into this game!!! and After That, everyone switched sides a couple more times, and finally they all got sick of it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (V2Yro)

389 Hey TJM! Another great weekend movie thread. Thanks!

Hogmartin, Anon and others, thanks for all the mac chess tips in the previous thread! I will especially check out Stockfish.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:41 PM (eMKNe)

390 365 Just thinking about the Thirty Years War makes my brain hurt.

I think somebody wrote a massive book about it recently which I haven't read.

I don't think even a miniseries would be enough.
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:35 PM (sdi6R)

Peter H. Wilson, "The Thirty Years War: Europe's Tragedy." I read it a few years ago, it's pretty good and readable, as far as the 30 Years War goes. But yeah, the paperback clocks in at a 1,000 pages.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:41 PM (ANIFC)

391 Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM (Ymy4N)

392 Lots of war movies are really love stories taking place during wars

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM (aC6Sd)

393 Re The Patriot, I always had the impression it was basically Braveheart, with the story simply re-superimposed on one individual during the American Revolution.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM (eMKNe)

394 Yes, Last of the Mohicans is a war move, French and Indian war. To me one of the most beautiful movies filmed
Posted by: Skip

I mentioned upthread two memorable villains for me, Hans Landa (Inglorious Bastards) and Clarence Bodikker (Robocop). Last of the Mohicans has another in Magua. I really hated that guy.

Also, the actor Wes Studi who played Magua is Cherokee and spoke only Cherokee until he was age 6. Not kin to Elizabeth Warren at all.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM (+Tibp)

395 Peter H. Wilson, "The Thirty Years War: Europe's
Tragedy." I read it a few years ago, it's pretty good and readable, as
far as the 30 Years War goes. But yeah, the paperback clocks in at a
1,000 pages.

Posted by: josephistan[/i
You know, for those with short attention spans.

Posted by: Shelby Foote at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (LAe3v)

396 Most important thing that came out of the 30 years war was the Treaty of Westphalia, which established for the first time the doctrine and concept of nationalism; the idea that individual nations had the right to do whatever they wished within their own borders, and no one had a right to do anything about it. That national borders were sacred and proper to be protected, and that individual cultures and nations were independent and sovereign.

This created the world we now enjoy, and the left largely ignorant of the consequences, is trying to destroy this peace and this system.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (39g3+)

Posted by: Shelby Foote at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (LAe3v)

398 376
And, it gave her an excuse to release a new version
of the book with the "original" passages restored, and make some money.


my friend the philosophy professor used to claim that Heller had discovered there was a market for lost chapters of Catch-22, so every now and then he would write one.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (2//jc)

399 Peter H. Wilson, "The Thirty Years War: Europe's Tragedy." I read it a few years ago, it's pretty good and readable, as far as the 30 Years War goes. But yeah, the paperback clocks in at a 1,000 pages.
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:41 PM (ANIFC)


That's the book I've read. It's fascinating stuff. Everyone basically looked at the fighting and thought, "here's a chance to gain an advantage for myself" and promptly pissed away anything that they gained.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (Tnhbr)

400 380 Yes, Last of the Mohicans is a war move, French and Indian war. To me one of the most beautiful movies filmed
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:38 PM (aC6Sd)

--Any movie with Madeleine Stowe in it is beautiful.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (e7oj4)

401
Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM



Phew, takes the pressure off me

Posted by: Tom Cruise at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (EzdLW)

402 We don't see how the massacre ends in LotM but Gen Montcalm stops it.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (aC6Sd)

403 I've watched and enjoyed "The Longest Day", but it's really just an Old Hollywood version of D-Day. It's a showcase for every top actor at the time.

I feel the same way about "It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World". The idea seemed to be, "This will be the funniest movie ever made, because it is chock full of great comedians." There are some great bits, but the whole is less than the sum of its parts.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

404 JFK and Elvis are tracking down the Mummy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM (V2Yro)

405 One war movie I like quite a bit is A Bridge Too Far (another one of those 'cast everyone who is a star today' films nobody could afford to make now). Its great at showing how confusing, chaotic, and even ridiculous the entire affair was. So promising and such a hopeful beginning and it all goes horribly wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM (39g3+)

406 I think it's a love story, or perhaps an adventure story, set in a war. The movie isn't about the war per se.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (yQpMk)

++++

True enough. The same could be said about From Here To Eternity.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM (pvjTE)

407 So what would folks here say is the all-time best WW1 movie?

Of course, I'm partial to Mr. Kubrick's Paths Of Glory.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM (eMKNe)

408 Also read of Japanese agetns trying to get Japs in CA to work for their side, not sure they had any success, but that wa why FDR did the concentration camps, for fear of that, and there was evidence they tried.
Posted by: Farmer

They also interned Germans and Italians*. That doesn't get mentioned a lot because white people mistreating white people doesn't advance cultural marxism, but there was a camp outside of my hometown and there weren't many Japanese people living in Iowa in the 40s.

*Not many Italians because the government had an "understanding" with Lucky Luciano that Italian spies wound up at the bottom of the Hudson River in exchange for looking the other way during the duration of the war.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM (f3MDZ)

409 The battle of Agincourt in the movie adaptation of Henry V by Kenneth Brannaugh was great, at least I think it was.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:39 PM (nBr1j)


I really like Brannaugh's version.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 08:45 PM (T71PA)

410 Has there ever been a serious movie about the Battle of Marathon?

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:45 PM (nBr1j)

411 After That, everyone switched sides a couple more times, and finally they all got sick of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (V2Yro)

--Hell, even Mannheim switched faiths in the middle of it.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 08:45 PM (e7oj4)

412 401


Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM





Phew, takes the pressure off me

Posted by: Tom Cruise

**stares into space, says nothing**

Posted by: Hayden Christensen at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (LAe3v)

413 It would be cool if they did a film about the Battle off Samar. Make it a three-hour ensemble piece like The Longest Day. Get serious Hollywood and Japanese actors and do it right.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (Tnhbr)

414 Wes Studi who played Magua is Cherokee and spoke only Cherokee until he was age 6. Not kin to Elizabeth Warren at all.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:42 PM (+Tibp)

I really like Wes Studi. Very compelling screen presence. But he was The Sphynx in Mystery Men, which means he also has a sense of humor.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (Mkuv2)

415 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (39g3+)

Did someone say Westphalia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (U7voe)

416 "I'm also waiting for the SJW crowd to realize he says "ni**er" eighty thousand times in every movie he makes and Unperson him."

-
Tarantino: Says n*gger.

Samuel L. Jackson: Says motherfvcker

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (+y/Ru)

417 395
You know, for those with short attention spans.
Posted by: Shelby Foote at May 26, 2018 08:43 PM (LAe3v)


Well played.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (sdi6R)

418 Of course, I'm partial to Mr. Kubrick's Paths Of Glory.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Ditto! Watch it every time it's on.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:46 PM (+Tibp)

419 See you later. Gotta recharge the tablet.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 08:47 PM (Evws/)

420 358 Puddin Head @ 313- The Five Fingers. Read that one years ago. Still around here somewheres and a real good read.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 08:34 PM (zLDYs)

>> Concur. Another Vietnam novel I enjoy is "A Reckoning for Kings." A fictional account of Tet '68, told from both sides.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 08:47 PM (AMIL/)

421 409 The battle of Agincourt in the movie adaptation of Henry V by Kenneth Brannaugh was great, at least I think it was.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:39 PM (nBr1j)

I really like Brannaugh's version.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 08:45 PM (T71PA)

I love the "Non nobis" sung at the end of the battle.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:47 PM (ANIFC)

422 Has there ever been a serious movie about the Battle of Marathon?
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing


In the long run, it's always been sweaty work trying to jog that kind of subject matter past the Hollywood finish line.

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:47 PM (eMKNe)

423 Hogmartin, Anon and others, thanks for all the mac chess tips in the previous thread! I will especially check out Stockfish.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:41 PM (eMKNe)

++++

No prob. Also, Stockfish is the name of an open source chess engine. Many programs make use of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockfish_%28chess%29

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (pvjTE)

424
Gibson can tell an engrossing story via film, and I love him for that.
None of us can actually know how we will respond until we are personally there. but his are at least within the range of our likely responses. Of our better selves.

I'm glad he's off the Whorywood blackball list.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (0ogQG)

425 JFK and Elvis are tracking down the Mummy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:44 PM



Pharaoh sucks donkey goobers. And Cleopatra does the nasty!

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (EzdLW)

426 So what would folks here say is the all-time best WW1 movie?
---
I'm partial to The BLue Max just for the aerial combat photography with real airplanes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (qJtVm)

427 The fairly recent attempts by movies to show Ancient Greek warfare are disappointing inaccurate

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (aC6Sd)

428 Lots of war movies are really love stories taking place during wars
Posted by: Skip

I remember Rush telling the story of asking his WW2 vet father which WW2 movie was most accurate and the response was "Hell Is For Heroes because it doesn't have a damn love story in it."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:49 PM (f3MDZ)

429 Has there ever been a serious movie about the Battle of Marathon?


The battle itself was pretty short. The heavy Greek infantry hit the Persians as they were landing, attacked at the doubletime to get under the Persian archers and the Persians panicked. I guess you could work some intrigue into it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 08:49 PM (yQpMk)

430 All Hail Eris, wow!

I know that aerial combat was more or less literally invented during WW1.

I believe the very first Oscar winner for Best Picture, Wings, also covered it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:49 PM (eMKNe)

431 22 Has there ever been a serious movie about the Battle of Marathon?
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing

In the long run, it's always been sweaty work trying to jog that kind of subject matter past the Hollywood finish line.

;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:47 PM (eMKNe)

I see what you did there.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:49 PM (nBr1j)

432 They also interned Germans and Italians*. That doesn't get mentioned a lot because white people mistreating white people doesn't advance cultural marxism, but there was a camp outside of my hometown and there weren't many Japanese people living in Iowa in the 40s.

It wasn't as bad, but that was due to a variety of factors, including that the German-heritage areas were away from the coasts, fewer first and second generation immigrants and, IIRC, German-Americans got treated like shit during WWI, when a lot of German culture was suppressed and never recovered.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (Tnhbr)

433 I believe the following are also all WW1 movies:

- Gallipoli
- All Quiet On The Western Front
- Doctor Zhivago

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (eMKNe)

434 I really like Wes Studi. Very compelling screen presence. But he was The Sphynx in Mystery Men, which means he also has a sense of humor.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast

He who questions training, only trains himself in asking questions. - Sphinx

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (+Tibp)

435 Not sure who cast "From here to Eternity ". Very uneven

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (Ymy4N)

436 And Cleopatra does the nasty!
Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM

I hear she did take it in the asp.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (jeQxb)

437 The fairly recent attempts by movies to show Ancient Greek warfare are disappointing inaccurate

That 300 sequel was horrendous. At least the first tried to stay sort of close to actual events, even if immensely stylized.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:51 PM (39g3+)

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 08:51 PM (O5Q3r)

439 427 The fairly recent attempts by movies to show Ancient Greek warfare are disappointing inaccurate
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (aC6Sd)
---
They're not naked!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:51 PM (qJtVm)

440 A good WW1 movie is Flyboys. Don't let the fact that it has James Franco in it scare you.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:51 PM (f3MDZ)

441 The battle scenes in Ran were gorgeously filmed, which is weird but they were beautiful. At least parts of the Battle were beautiful.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (nBr1j)

442 Northernlurker, :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (eMKNe)

443 I believe the following are also all WW1 movies:

- Gallipoli
- All Quiet On The Western Front
- Doctor Zhivago
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (eMKNe)


The Lord of the Rings.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (fZuhk)

444 435 Not sure who cast "From here to Eternity ". Very uneven
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (Ymy4N)
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I liked hearing Ernest Borgnine call Frankie a Wop. They musta laffed at that one.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (qJtVm)

445 hogmartin, really??

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (eMKNe)

446 427
The fairly recent attempts by movies to show Ancient Greek warfare are disappointing inaccurate

Posted by: Skip

Are you suggesting that Eva Green's boobs aren't magnificent?

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (LAe3v)

447 >>"I'm also waiting for the SJW crowd to realize he says "ni**er" eighty thousand times in every movie he makes and Unperson him."


He got taken down with the #MeToo stuff - for enabling Weinstein, and then Uma Thurman kicked it a notch by airing details about the injuries she got during the filming of Kill Bill Vol. II (he had her crash the car without proper protection, broke some bones IIRC, and has had back problems ever since).

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:53 PM (W+vEI)

448 Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.
He died young. Always a good career move.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 08:53 PM (O5Q3r)

449 There have been a bunch of WWI flying movies, daring pilots in rickety cloth planes, being all dashing and honorable. Some of the oldest movies are the best of them, I think.

German-Americans got treated like shit during WWI, when a lot of German culture was suppressed and never recovered.

It was actually illegal to teach German as a language for a few years. They got pretty jobbed over for a while yeah. WWI was a triumph of bigotry and propaganda, one of the ugliest periods in US history. Thank Wilson for that bit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:53 PM (39g3+)

450 hogmartin, really??
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:52 PM (eMKNe)


Dead serious.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 08:53 PM (fZuhk)

451 One of the best WW1 movies is "The Grand Illusion".

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:53 PM (V2Yro)

452 396: mr. taylor:

i did not know that.

you're comments on the debate thread earlier were also sharp. well done.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (Pg+x7)

453
Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.
Posted by: REDACTED


That's my opinion about James Dean.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (IqV8l)

454 McHale's Navy was pretty good.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (MVjcR)

455 Take a look at The Best Years of Our Lives - 1946, directed by William Wyler, another man who directed some outstanding pictures. I also like Gibson in We Were Soldiers - 2002, about the late Hal Moore and the first large engagement in Vietnam.

Posted by: Locke Common at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (+v1++)

456 Clapper looks like a Bizarro World Mike Ehrmentraut.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (e7oj4)

457 I'm partial to The BLue Max just for the aerial combat photography with real airplanes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM

What a bunch of poofs!

Posted by: Squadron Commander The Lord Flasheart at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (jeQxb)

458 Uma Thurman kicked it a notch by airing details about the injuries she got during the filming of Kill Bill Vol. II (he had her crash the car without proper protection, broke some bones IIRC, and has had back problems ever since).
Posted by: Lizzy

I very selflessly volunteer to give Ms. Thurman massages for her back pain. Happy ending no extra charge.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:55 PM (f3MDZ)

459 Yeah James Dean... so much respect and admiration for so little actual accomplishment. That kid in Rebel Without a Cause needed a ten minute ass kicking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 08:55 PM (39g3+)

460 Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.

Posted by: REDACTED




That's my opinion about James Dean.

See #448

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 08:55 PM (O5Q3r)

461 WWI was a triumph of bigotry and propaganda, one of the ugliest periods in US history.
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One reason Eisenhower insisted on filming the concentration camps is that nobody would believe it after all the Hun propaganda from WWI.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (qJtVm)

462 Monty Clift has got to be one of the most overrated actors of all time.

Posted by: REDACTED



That's my opinion about James Dean.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Okay, if we're talking about actors who are generally held in high regard, I put Jimmy Stewart at the top of that list. Yes, he was heroic during the war, when he could easily have stayed home, but I find his acting entirely unconvincing and irritating.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (LAe3v)

463 My recommendation is 1940's Northwest Passage, filmed in glorious Technicolor. Maybe the only movie ever set during the French and Indian War, it stars Spencer Tracy as Maj. Robert Rogers of Rogers Ranger fame. The other featured players are Robert Young as Langdon Towne (his best role) and Walter Brennan as Hunk Marriner.
While the plot concerns a raid to wipe out Indians who've been terrorizing upstate New York, the most memorable elements are the rangers' battles against the elements: carrying longboats over hills, forming a human chain to cross a raging river, mucking their way through a swamp and, ultimately, facing death from starvation. If you have a chance to see it on TCM, don't miss it.
See you at sundown, Harvard.

Posted by: Outside Adjitator at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (pXthv)

464 I said the Battle of Marathon, I was thinking of the Battle of Thermopylae.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (nBr1j)

465

German-Americans got treated like shit during WWI, when a lot of German culture was suppressed and never recovered.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (Tnhbr)


Germans and Italians were also bigger voting blocs.

Know where Japanese-Americans were left unmolested? Hawaii.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (3ZK+G)

466 It was actually illegal to teach German as a language for a few years.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Texas has a large German community that has developed its own language called Texas German. Kind of a patois of English and German.

Anyhoo, my Grandfather spoke it. He would use German POWs in WWII to help with the farm and would often eat lunch with them and converse. The neighbors accused him of being a member of the Bund.

Also, my dad, his son, did not speak a word of German. Probably for that reason.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (+Tibp)

467 456 Clapper looks like a Bizarro World Mike Ehrmentraut.
Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (e7oj4)
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He looks like Ehrmentraut with a slow air leak.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (qJtVm)

468 I know what you mean, HogMartin. There's certainly an element in there. The Dead Marshes are carved out of Tolkien's memories of the Somme, for example.

Frodo never really recovered from his wounds, even though he was on the winning side - the victory was for others, not for him personally. Just as Tolkien never truly recovered his health after being gassed. He wrote from what he knew.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (V2Yro)

469 It's a trade-off. The 60s WWII movies used real tanks & planes, but they were largely inaccurate, sometimes laughably so. But contemporary movies can get the details right with CG, but CG still looks like CG.
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 08:33 PM (ANIFC)


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CGI still looks fakey fakey. It's one of the things that negatively impacts the experience of the Marvel movies for me. They're not that bad on the political correctness scale, but too cartoony. More interesting to see Sean Connery zipping around in a mini-helicopter.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (/qEW2)

470 And one more, Puddin Head and all, before I hit the rack. 'Sand In The Wind' about Marines from boot camp to VN. Forget who wrote it, but it would make a great movie if whoryweird didn't fvck it up.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (zLDYs)

471 >>Gibson can tell an engrossing story via film, and I love him for that.
None of us can actually know how we will respond until we are personally there. but his are at least within the range of our likely responses. Of our better selves.



We recently watch "Blood Father" - Gibson is always watchable.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (W+vEI)

472 I have the "trilogy" by Jim Jones. "From Here to Eternity", "The Thin Red Line" and "Whistle".

Of the three, "Whistle" is the best and should be made into a movie.

And yes, lots of homo stuff in the first, little in the second and none in the third.

But lots of sex, oral especially, in "Whistle". Jim liked it a lot I guess.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (EoRCO)

473 My paternal grandmother came from a German family, whole bunch up near Bay City MI. I asked her one time why she didn't still speak German, as she still had prayer books in German. She told me that when she started school her parents decided that they would speak English at home, as they were Americans. Thing is, she started school in 1914, and had older brothers. I suspect the timing of this decision was important....

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 26, 2018 08:58 PM (JK7Jw)

474 WWI Favs:
Dawn Patrol
The Fighting 69th
Sgt York


Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 08:59 PM (QLvwG)

475 I loves Saving Private Ryan, but Spielberg ruins it for me with the Oppum garbage at the end. The first half hour is brilliant, but I can never get past the ending.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 08:59 PM (Agn5J)

476 That's my opinion about James Dean.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 08:54 PM (IqV8l)

Agreed

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:59 PM (Ymy4N)

477 They also interned Germans and Italians*. That doesn't get mentioned a lot because white people mistreating white people doesn't advance cultural marxism, but there was a camp outside of my hometown and there weren't many Japanese people living in Iowa in the 40s.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:44
True dat, good point PL. Doesn't advance the right narrative. And Wilson imprisoned Mennonites during WW I for objecting to the war.

Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2018 08:59 PM (yJ1e6)

478 I had german ancestors who at the time were living in a large city near Toronto, Ontario, named Berlin, mostly a german speaking community.

After WW1 broke out, it was renamed Kitchener, which is what it is still called today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:59 PM (V2Yro)

479 After WW1, my great-grandfather would never admit to being of German ancestry. Surviving a gas attack left him pretty bitter towards the Vaterland.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:59 PM (f3MDZ)

480 Great WWII films, IMO: Patton, the German version of Stalingrad, and the fairly recent Fury, with Brad Pitt.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:00 PM (Agn5J)

481 Yes, he was heroic during the war, when he could easily have stayed home, but I find his acting entirely unconvincing and irritating.
Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (LAe3v)
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Like doddering grampa playing young Charles Lindburgh?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 09:00 PM (qJtVm)

482 Dunno if it counts as a war movie or a drama, but: Downfall.

Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 09:00 PM (U7voe)

483 I loves Saving Private Ryan, but Spielberg ruins it for me with the Oppum garbage at the end.

That someone could literally freeze up with fear?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:01 PM (yQpMk)

484 Not sure who cast "From here to Eternity ". Very uneven
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 08:50 PM (Ymy4N)

Godfather Vito Corleone. He made sure Frank Sinatra was in it. All it took was a little head in bed.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 09:01 PM (9BLnV)

485 >>>482 Dunno if it counts as a war movie or a drama, but: Downfall.

It's known more for the memes, but the film itself is very well done.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:01 PM (Agn5J)

486 Godfather Vito Corleone. He made sure Frank Sinatra was in it. All it took was a little head in bed.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

An offer he couldn't refuse.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (+Tibp)

487 Yeah, Fury. I liked that movie. The clash with the Tiger was terrifying.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (yQpMk)

488 I very selflessly volunteer to give Ms. Thurman massages for her back pain. Happy ending no extra charge.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 08:55 PM (f3MDZ)


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Back massages only - keep your hands off her feet.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (/qEW2)

489 Watched Guns of Navarone last night. But that was just to see Gia Scala.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (SeyTv)

490 McHale's Navy was pretty good.

No, seriously it was pretty hilarious. Surprising because it was one of those "oh criminy another movie made from a boomer youth TV show" but... it was actually pretty good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (39g3+)

491 480
Great WWII films, IMO: Patton, the German version of Stalingrad, and the fairly recent Fury, with Brad Pitt.

I agree with all of those. Good list.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (LAe3v)

492 Almost 500 in ... and no mention of Kelly's Heroes ?

I give up. Who are you people ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (ftdxp)

493 >>>That someone could literally freeze up with fear?

No, just his entire attitude during the film. The last scene was just the last straw. Simply an annoying, unnecessary character, in my opinion. Matt. Damon. Freezes with fear at the end, but it doesn't ruin it for me. Oppum is different.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (Agn5J)

494 469 That to me is why I put Battle of Britain so highly, they found at least aircraft that looked WWII but were often updated for 20 years, but it would take experts to know that.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:02 PM (aC6Sd)

495 I was thinking of the Battle of Thermopylae.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (nBr1j)

>>> The 300 Spartans, 1962, Richard Egan as Leonidas.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 09:03 PM (AMIL/)

496 >>>487 Yeah, Fury. I liked that movie. The clash with the Tiger was terrifying.


The only working Tiger left on Earth. It's at the Bovington Tank Museum in England

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:03 PM (Agn5J)

497 500 comments and no one brings up Breaker Morant? Just as good as Paths of Glory, IMO

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 26, 2018 09:04 PM (swEzU)

498 Almost 500 in ... and no mention of Kelly's Heroes ?

I give up. Who are you people ?
Posted by: ScoggDog

Donald Sutherland as a protohippie driving a Tiger tank. What's not to like?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:04 PM (f3MDZ)

499

"The Foreign Minister of Germany once said to me 'your country does not dare do anything against Germany, because we have in your country five hundred thousand Germans reservists [emigrants] who will rise in arms against your government if you dare to make a move against Germany.' Well, I told him that that might be so, but that we had five hundred thousand - and one - lamp posts in this country, and that that was where the reservists would be hanging the day after they tried to rise." - James W. Gerard, US Ambassador to Germany, 1913-1917

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 09:04 PM (3ZK+G)

500 I also liked All Quiet on The Western Front. All the romanticism speeches about going to war at the beginning vs the stark horror of war as it plays out.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 09:04 PM (QLvwG)

501
Almost 500 in ... and no mention of Kelly's Heroes ?

I give up. Who are you people ?
Posted by: ScoggDog


#286

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (IqV8l)

502 It's not a critically great film, but I really like Enemy at the Gates, as well. Jude Law as Soviet sniper Vasily Zaitsev. Good stuff.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (Agn5J)

503 overrated actor - Tom Hanks
actually I don't know if he's overrated or just annoying

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (hMwEB)

504 My favorite war movie is "12 O'Clock high" with Gregory Peck. Well, favorite realistic story any way. My favorite is 'Kelly's Heroes" which had it's own kind of realism (real Tiger Tanks and real Shermans, woot).

Posted by: Kristian Holvoet at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (qsDMQ)

505 #286

Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (yQpMk)

506 492 Almost 500 in ... and no mention of Kelly's Heroes ?

Negative waves.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Calhoon Kenobe at May 26, 2018 09:06 PM (Pikr/)

507 Enemy at the Gates was a pretty good WW2 film, from the Russian/German perspective without any Yanks or Brits in it. Awful misery everywhere and a very interesting series of cat and mouse hunts with snipers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:06 PM (39g3+)

508 486 Godfather Vito Corleone. He made sure Frank Sinatra was in it. All it took was a little head in bed.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

Sure you're not talking about Monty ??

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:06 PM (Ymy4N)

509 I'll throw in Das Boot, also. Good war flick.

Posted by: Squadron Commander The Lord Flasheart at May 26, 2018 09:06 PM (jeQxb)

510 It's not a critically great film, but I really like Enemy at the Gates, as well.


I like anything with Rachel Weisz in it. Literally anything.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:07 PM (yQpMk)

511 I also thought Valkyrie was good, ever with Tom Foos.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:07 PM (Agn5J)

512 One of the reasons I like Bubba Ho-Tep so much is after spending most of the movie glorying in wackie B-movie tropes and a hilarious script, suddenly in the last 15 minutes they sneak in a very touching and powerful message about the value of lives that everyone else has forgotten about, and what it means to exit this world with pride.

And that message holds independently of what you think about any of the other things going on.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 09:07 PM (V2Yro)

513 I'll throw in Das Boot, also. Good war flick.

Posted by: Squadron Commander The Lord Flasheart at May 26, 2018 09:06 PM (jeQxb)


Good catch. That is a great movie.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:07 PM (T71PA)

514 >>>I like anything with Rachel Weisz in it. Literally anything.

Crazy stupid hot.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:07 PM (Agn5J)

515 426 So what would folks here say is the all-time best WW1 movie?
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I'm partial to The BLue Max just for the aerial combat photography with real airplanes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 08:48 PM (qJtVm)


I saw that ages ago and liked it.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

516 I was sort of underwhelmed with The Battle of Britain when I watched it the first time. It was okay, but kind of dated and not very effective until... the last sequence where the film just became silent except for music and the aerial combat. And suddenly it was transformed into a masterpiece. I couldn't take my eyes away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:08 PM (39g3+)

517 overrated actor - Tom Hanks
actually I don't know if he's overrated or just annoying
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (hMwEB)

Merle Streep

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:08 PM (nBr1j)

518 Shit. Off, sock. Woof!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2018 09:08 PM (jeQxb)

519 Best war movies of all time:

Charge of the Light Grenade

They Were Expectable

From Here to America

The Battle of the Beluga

The Bridge Over the River Why

Posted by: Joe Biden, Female Hair Inspector at May 26, 2018 09:08 PM (e7oj4)

520 I said the Battle of Marathon, I was thinking of the Battle of Thermopylae.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing


*tries to think of thermal underwear puns*

I got nuthin'.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:09 PM (eMKNe)

521 497 500 comments and no one brings up Breaker Morant? Just as good as Paths of Glory, IMO

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 26, 2018 09:04 PM (swEzU)

++++

Yes, but Memorial Day. Americans. Aussies, though valued allies, don't qualify.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 09:09 PM (pvjTE)

522 I know what you mean, HogMartin. There's certainly an element in there. The Dead Marshes are carved out of Tolkien's memories of the Somme, for example.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 08:57 PM (V2Yro)


Yes, that's one of the most clear examples - a vast landscape, transformed by combat, with the dead from both sides floating everywhere. The whole of Mordor is pretty much the Western front, scorched, shattered, desolate, choked with smoke and death. But like you said, the whole story is what you get when you send a classical language and literature scholar to WWI. The war is everywhere in his writing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:09 PM (fZuhk)

523 My usual Memorial Day movie is Bataan with Robert Taylor, Robert Walker, Lloyd Nolan, and Thomas Mitchell.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at May 26, 2018 09:09 PM (3DZIZ)

524 504 My favorite war movie is "12 O'Clock high" with Gregory Peck. Well, favorite realistic story any way. My favorite is 'Kelly's Heroes" which had it's own kind of realism (real Tiger Tanks and real Shermans, woot).
Posted by: Kristian Holvoet at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (qsDMQ)

I like the movie too but I can help thinking about how left Gregory Peck was. Besties with Jane, for all the left reasons

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:09 PM (Ymy4N)

525 #286

Shh. He's rolling.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (yQpMk)


Heh ... at least SOMEBODY still remembers the classics !!!

For a serious war movie though ... I'll echo Chris Taylor - A Bridge Too Far. Outstanding.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2018 09:09 PM (ftdxp)

526 How bad does Solo suck??


Well, apparently his last name isn't Solo????
WTF!!!!!!
Disney SUCKKKKKKKSSSSS!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM (UfMVm)

527 Rachel Weisz in The Mummy was so adorable I just wanted to take a bite like she was cake. That's such a great film.

And yeah, another thumb up for Valkyrie. Fine movie, and Tom Cruise was actually quite effective in it. Good vehicle for him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM (39g3+)

528 As I understand it, WW1 was the first war to feature in any kind of major way:

- Aerial warfare
- chemical warfare
- use of submarines for reconnaissance/attack

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM (eMKNe)

529 300 Spartans with Richard Egan.
Themistocles.
(and we are Greeks too -a Thespian )

One of my favorites.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM (CuFV9)

530 504 My favorite is 'Kelly's Heroes" which had it's own kind of realism (real Tiger Tanks and real Shermans, woot).

Posted by: Kristian Holvoet at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (qsDMQ)

>>>> Sorry, but those were not real Tiger I's. Good simulations. Check the road wheels against a real Tiger I

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

531 I loves Saving Private Ryan, but Spielberg ruins it for me with the Oppum garbage at the end. The first half hour is brilliant, but I can never get past the ending.


Which bit, where Upham cowards out or when he shoots the prisoner?

It's important to know that when he has the five prisoners at gunpoint the one he'd passed on the stairs says "I know this man, he's a coward".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (fuK7c)

532 I also liked All Quiet on The Western Front.

Oof. Nichts Neues im Westen, I believe. Bleak. Really, really gets its point across.

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (y3sT9)

533 517 overrated actor - Tom Hanks
actually I don't know if he's overrated or just annoying
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (hMwEB)

He was well cast in BP, after that BS. Can't stand him

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (Ymy4N)

534
How bad does Solo suck??


Well, apparently his last name isn't Solo????
WTF!!!!!!
Disney SUCKKKKKKKSSSSS!!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM



Lando will suck anything

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (EzdLW)

535 Also, I'm shocked no one has by now made a great flick about Matthew Brady and his team of cameramen who covered the Civil War, and in the process more or less invented photojournalism.

I even have a great title for the flick: "The Brady Bunch." ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (eMKNe)

536 Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018

LOTR really is a great war story. The book more so than the movie.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2018 09:12 PM (jeQxb)

537 Christopher - I really liked the first Mummy film. Second? Not so much. As for Valkyrie, there were a few great performances, Bill Nighy, Kenneth Branagh, even Eddie Izzard

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:12 PM (Agn5J)

538 Tom Hanks to me is in that category with John Wayne and Arnold Schwarzenegger where they really aren't actors, they're entertainers who take a role. Its still always just them in the part, but they're so interesting and effective at it, you don't really care. Tom has done some terrific work in the past, and some pretty pedestrian and boring work. But he's always just.... Tom Hanks.

Jimmy Stewart had range. He wasn't always given a chance because he was so good at playing that one guy but he really could act, if given a good role to sink his teeth into. I keep bringing this up but the second Thin Man movie demonstrates his skill really well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:12 PM (39g3+)

539 And yeah, another thumb up for Valkyrie. Fine movie, and Tom Cruise was actually quite effective in it. Good vehicle for him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Agreed. And I also like that Eddie Izzard got to show off his acting chops rather than just being "the comedian that cross-dresses". He's got some skill.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (f3MDZ)

540

... the last sequence where the film just became silent except for music and the aerial combat. And suddenly it was transformed into a masterpiece. I couldn't take my eyes away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:08 PM (39g3+)


The music for that sequence was by Sir William Walton. Most of the rest was by Ron Goodwin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (gNwZ2)

541 Tom Servo, thanks for that comment re Tolkien. Now I get it about him, LOTR and WW1. Sounds like JRR used it as kind of a template for the story.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (eMKNe)

542 >>>> Sorry, but those were not real Tiger I's. Good simulations. Check the road wheels against a real Tiger I
Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

Still beats the hell out of Midway where they put in war camera footage of anything they could get their hands on like Corsairs.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (T71PA)

543 One of my Memorial Weekend recommendations is Hell is for Heros with Steve McQueen, Bobby Darin and Bob Newhart

Posted by: DirtySanchez at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (Id8wU)

544 I'm a huge fan of The Great Escape.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (nBr1j)

545 Oooooo, Sara Carter

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (e7oj4)

546 overrated actor - Tom Hanks
actually I don't know if he's overrated or just annoying
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 09:05 PM (hMwEB)


If you watch Apollo 13 with the Jim Lovell commentary, you do get an appreciation of how Hanks captured his little tics and mannerisms when you hear Jim and Marilyn speaking. It's subtle, but I was impressed.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (fZuhk)

547 >>>It's important to know that when he has the five prisoners at gunpoint the one he'd passed on the stairs says "I know this man, he's a coward".

Really? Never noticed that. Nice.

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (Agn5J)

548 Parkland students are getting an invitation to intern for Democrats this summer session. Watch out for the cornhole kids!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (rdl6o)

549 Monty says he's a middleweight. The only time he saw 155 was when he stuffed with 20 lbs of sausage

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:15 PM (Ymy4N)

550 Whatever elxe you can say about him, Tom Cruise picks good scripts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:15 PM (yQpMk)

551 I'm a huge fan of The Great Escape.

Read the book, its so much more. Incredible story, but they couldn't possibly film it all.

Really? Never noticed that. Nice.

He says it in German, no subtitles. In front of the one guy in the squad who speaks German and finally grows a pair.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:15 PM (39g3+)

552 Jimmy Stewart had range.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:12 PM (39g3+)


Truly groundbreaking work as The Cuck Who Lived in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2018 09:15 PM (ftdxp)

553 Okay, if we're talking about actors who are generally held in high regard, I put Jimmy Stewart at the top of that list. Yes, he was heroic during the war, when he could easily have stayed home, but I find his acting entirely unconvincing and irritating.
Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (LAe3v)


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The quavery voice thing he's got going, you either like it or it's grating.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 09:16 PM (/qEW2)

554 If you watch Apollo 13 with the Jim Lovell commentary, you do get an appreciation of how Hanks captured his little tics and mannerisms when you hear Jim and Marilyn speaking. It's subtle, but I was impressed.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (fZuhk)


Prolly voiced over about 100 times

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:16 PM (Ymy4N)

555 Tom Hanks was great in The Burbs. The entire cast was superb. Even the garbagemen, who were in it for about 45 seconds, shone.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:17 PM (f3MDZ)

556 Hey Chris T, seems I can say that same thing for all the big stars ie they were just in a part, like McQueen, Pacino, Deniro, et al. After a while I just see the star as opposed to the character. IMO

Posted by: DirtySanchez at May 26, 2018 09:17 PM (Id8wU)

557 Really? Never noticed that. Nice.
Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (Agn5J)


SPR has a few Easter eggs like that. The surrendering 'Germans' in the trench on the cliff at the beginning are trying to say that they didn't kill anyone and that they're Czech.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:17 PM (fZuhk)

558 Did a search for "Battle of Britain."

One of the first thing that turns up is Roger Ebert's 1969 ONE-star review.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:17 PM (eMKNe)

559 "Has there ever been a serious movie about the Battle of Marathon?"

Our reenactment was a smashing success!

Posted by: Batley Townswomans Guild at May 26, 2018 09:17 PM (UdKB7)

560 [528 As I understand it, WW1 was the first war to feature in any kind of major way:

- Aerial warfare
- chemical warfare
- use of submarines for reconnaissance/attack
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM (eMKNe)


Yes, it started out with the ancient combination of infantry/cavalry/artillery, but the stalemate forced all kinds of technological innovations.

At the start of the war, airplanes were envisioned as scouts to observe enemy troop movements on the ground (balloons were used for that in the American Civil War), but within a couple of months the aircrews were shooting at each other with pistols and rifles.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:18 PM (sdi6R)

561 550 Whatever elxe you can say about him, Tom Cruise picks good scripts.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:15 PM (yQpMk)

His movies make a lot of money

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:18 PM (Ymy4N)

562 Cruise's secretary in Valkyrie has fabulous elbows, by the way. Halina Reijn. https://bit.ly/2L07Eqe

Posted by: Wyatt at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (gA69l)

563 Whatever elxe you can say about him, Tom Cruise picks good scripts.

Tom Cruise does what Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood does. They make movies to make money, and collect scripts they like, then they make the movies from those scripts with their cash and banking on their popularity and power in Hollywood to get the film made, even when it otherwise wouldn't have. That's how movies like Open Range and Unforgiven get made in a Hollywood culture that hates westerns and what they have to say about men and life.

Without Tom Cruise, those Jack Reacher movies wouldn't get made, he's a huge fan. They don't always hit a home run (The Postman, Trouble With the Curve, etc) but they are getting stuff made that wouldn't otherwise and I really like them for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (39g3+)

564
One D-Day vet said the only thing they missed was the smell.

The thing that struck me about Saving Private Ryan was how the audience reacted after the movie. Normally, when you leave after a show, there's chatter. People talking about cool things about the movie, 'what do we do next', 'i want ice cream', etc.

After Saving Private Ryan? Dead silence.

Posted by: rosignol at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (sjCQ+)

565 OT. WTH! American Digest lost its verification. I really like that site! Hope they get it back soon.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (RZWC0)

566 Thin red line was horrible







Posted by: Karl at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (fvf8x)

567 Num nums time

Posted by: Irritated Peoples of Lower Slobovia at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (Id8wU)

568 534
How bad does Solo suck??


Well, apparently his last name isn't Solo????
WTF!!!!!!
Disney SUCKKKKKKKSSSSS!!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at May 26, 2018 09:10 PM


Lando will suck anything
Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 09:11 PM (EzdLW)

Played by Dong Lover, as EVS says it

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (ANIFC)

569 I'm in for a movie that depicts Dresden.

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Not a movie nor about Dresden but if Brit fire bombing of German cities interests you, check out books by Martin Middlebrook. I might suggest The Nuremburg Raid about a Brit heavy bomber raid that went wrong and led to the loss of 94 heavy bombers. He also has books on the Hamburg Raids, the Berlin Raids, the Peenemunde Raid etc.

For fiction, check out Len Deighton's Bomber about a Ruhr raid that goes wrong. It is one of my all time favorite novels.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:20 PM (+y/Ru)

570 If you watch Apollo 13 with the Jim Lovell commentary, you do get an appreciation of how Hanks captured his little tics and mannerisms when you hear Jim and Marilyn speaking.


I watched a CSPAN thing today about Apollo 8, with all of the crew members still alive and onstage.

One of the cute little sidebars was that Lovell called a small mountain near the Sea of Tranquility "Mount Marilyn". NASA took it up and everybody who followed called it that, but the body that officially names things snooted at it and said we don't do that.

Well, they changed their minds two years ago and now it's officially Mount Marilyn.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 09:20 PM (fuK7c)

571 OT. WTH! American Digest lost its verification. I really like that site! Hope they get it back soon.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at May 26, 2018 09:19 PM (RZWC0)

It'll be back. That happened a couple of months ago too. Gerard will get it back.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (T71PA)

572 HOU up 36-22

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (X/A4v)

573 That's the test for me in an actor: when I forget who's playing the part and just see them in the role. Very few who can do that. Most of the "really great" actors you see THEM playing the part rather than them disappearing and the part taking over.

One of the first thing that turns up is Roger Ebert's 1969 ONE-star review.

Shows what he knows. Fat idiot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (39g3+)

574 Yes, it started out with the ancient combination of infantry/cavalry/artillery, but the stalemate forced all kinds of technological innovations.
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:18 PM (sdi6R)


It was also the beginning of modern field guns, since artillery recoil systems had evolved to the point where you could shoot twice and expect to hit roughly the same place, so it became worthwhile to start looking into gun laying as a science instead of just an art. Before that, the state of the art was basically Napoleonic cannon.

Consequently, you get hideous trench warfare, the reintroduction of helmets, and so on.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (fZuhk)

575 I know it's a British movie but has anyone sent the Dambusters movie?

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (nBr1j)

576 Tom Hanks was great in The Burbs. The entire cast was superb. Even the garbagemen, who were in it for about 45 seconds, shone.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:17 PM (f3MDZ)


Great movie.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 26, 2018 09:22 PM (9Om/r)

577 Parkland students are getting an invitation to intern for Democrats this summer session. Watch out for the cornhole kids!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 26, 2018 09:14 PM (rdl6o)


========

Saw that too. The Democrats are encouraging kids to become lying loudmouthed brats who don't think critically about what it is they're espousing. They're corrupting the youth, like the Soviets when they turned kids into heroes for turning in their "subversive" parents.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (/qEW2)

578 My favorite war movie is "Caddyshack"

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (Ymy4N)

579 One of my Memorial Weekend recommendations is Hell is for Heros with Steve McQueen, Bobby Darin and Bob Newhart

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And Fess Parker who died a few days ago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (+y/Ru)

580 Lando will suck anything

Yeah but, here's the thing I don't get.

He's not human. He's from another galaxy entirely. From "long, long ago" no less. He LOOKS human but whatever he does sexually is just whatever that species does. The fixation with making them fit some leftist special identity niche is just tiring. Think more like Arcturians in Aliens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (39g3+)

581 Wow, the Demotards roll out the shittiest of their shit turds for the talk shows on memorial Day Weekend.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (e7oj4)

582 I know it's a British movie but has anyone sent the Dambusters movie?
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (nBr1j)

Dambusters is damngood.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (T71PA)

583 Kinda cool https://youtu.be/ehVxkDiNKIw

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (+Tibp)

584 Lee Marvin was a one off

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (Ymy4N)

585 Don't mention the war!

Posted by: Basil Fawlty at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (ANIFC)

586 logprof, all the better for Tucker Carlson to eviscerate.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (eMKNe)

587 Think more like Arcturians in Aliens.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (39g3+)


What, like more than I'm thinking about them already?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (fZuhk)

588 Dan'l Boone est mort?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (fuK7c)

589 Consequently, you get hideous trench warfare, the reintroduction of helmets, and so on.
Posted by: hogmartin

There was trench warfare in the Civil War. Fredericksburg and Richmond I think. But the European powers refused to study American battles because they viewed the American military and lowbrow militias.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (f3MDZ)

590 If we're talking realism ... nothing comes close to The Last Starfighter.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (ftdxp)

591
I know it's a British movie but has anyone sent the Dambusters movie?

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:21 PM (nBr1j)


Yes. I enjoyed it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (QLvwG)

592 Still beats the hell out of Midway where they put in war camera footage of anything they could get their hands on like Corsairs.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:13 PM (T71PA)

>>> Agreed. That's what makes Tora Tora Tora stand out - the money and effort spent to fashion flying replicas of Japanese aircraft.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (AMIL/)

593
There was trench warfare in the Civil War. Fredericksburg and Richmond I think.

Petersburg.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (LAe3v)

594 586 logprof, all the better for Tucker Carlson to eviscerate.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (eMKNe)

--Sara Carter and Judge Jugs already ripped him.

Tucker won't have much of a carcass to feast on.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (e7oj4)

595 I wanted since last week to put together my top 10 war movies but didn't, so on the fly but not in order
12 O'clock High
Master and Commander
Black Hawk Down
Paths of Glory
Last of the Mohicans
Das Boot
Need 4 more

Tring to decide if Cain Mutiny is a war movie

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (aC6Sd)

596 Thin Red Line was awful

Posted by: Tinkers Toys made Peter Pan smile at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (Id8wU)

597 The civil war scenes in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly were memorable.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (nBr1j)

598 The Fighting Seabees

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (Uysai)

599 some day they will do a space opera from Alastair Reynolds' books

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (X/A4v)

600 Another innovation from WWI: Parachutes.

Yes, Leonardo da Vinci invented the concept in a 15th century drawing, and there had been experiments and tests in the years leading up to WWI, but they became a reality during the war.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

601 Well, they changed their minds two years ago and now it's officially Mount Marilyn.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 09:20 PM (fuK7c)


Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand, yeah, it's nice when things like that happen. On the other, if we just bent the rules every time, Uranus would still be named George.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (fZuhk)

602 589 Consequently, you get hideous trench warfare, the reintroduction of helmets, and so on.
Posted by: hogmartin

There was trench warfare in the Civil War. Fredericksburg and Richmond I think. But the European powers refused to study American battles because they viewed the American military and lowbrow militias.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (f3MDZ)

And in the Crimean War before that, and the Russo-Japanese War, just before WWI. But none of the decision makers were paying attention.

Posted by: Basil Fawlty at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (ANIFC)

603 I know it's a British movie but has anyone sent the Dambusters movie?

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Trivia: What was Guy Gibson's dog's name?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (+y/Ru)

604 Need 4 more



Tring to decide if Cain Mutiny is a war movie

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (aC6Sd)

Sink the Bismark
The Enemy Below

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 09:28 PM (QLvwG)

605 Northernlurker lighter less filing

Yes, the Dambusters about 617 Sqdn was quite well done.

There is a Star Wars link using dialog from the other movie. Some call it a homage. I call it plagiarism.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 09:28 PM (hyuyC)

606 Hah! Good to hear Dr. WTF. That is on my weekend reading list.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at May 26, 2018 09:28 PM (RZWC0)

607 Fess Parker gone?

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:28 PM (aC6Sd)

608 603 I know it's a British movie but has anyone sent the Dambusters movie?

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Trivia: What was Guy Gibson's dog's name?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (+y/Ru

I know.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:28 PM (nBr1j)

609 But the European powers refused to study American battles because they viewed the American military and lowbrow militias.


The Euros had observers at our Civil War battles, and they had observers at the 1905 Russo-Nippo war. They should have known what industrial war looked like but they chose to act as if it were Napoleonic.

WWI makes me mad because it's the stupidest war ever fought the most stupid ways for the most stupid reasons that ended up killing everyone.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 09:28 PM (fuK7c)

610 The civil war scenes in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly were memorable.

They felt really strange though, out of place. Like he'd filmed the sequences earlier and just wanted to use them. At no point in the film did you feel like the movie was set within 1000 miles of the Civil War, then they stumble across a battlefield? And spend a half hour as soldiers, for no real plot reason?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (39g3+)

611 As long as we're straying from movies....the UK arrested, tried, and sentenced Tommy Robinson in a matter of hours and put a gag order on the proceeding. Someone wants Robinson dead, eh? WTF, Britain?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (W+vEI)

612 Heaven Can Wait is coming out on Criterion.

But... it's the 1943 Ernst Lubitsch version, not the 1978 Warren Beatty flick.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (eMKNe)

613 Also, To Hell and Back

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (QLvwG)

614 There was trench warfare in the Civil War. Fredericksburg and Richmond I think. But the European powers refused to study American battles because they viewed the American military and lowbrow militias.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (f3MDZ)

--Read about Cold Harbor and Battle of the Crater.

The first, a sneak peek into the Great War.

The second, one of the biggest clusterfucks in Amrican military history.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (e7oj4)

615 Guy Gibson's dog's name? The N word sounded out.

Alas for Guy Gibson, killed in WWII after writing his book Enemy Coasts Ahead.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (hyuyC)

616 Battle of Britain
Probably A Bridge too Far

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (aC6Sd)

617 They felt really strange though, out of place. Like he'd filmed the sequences earlier and just wanted to use them. At no point in the film did you feel like the movie was set within 1000 miles of the Civil War, then they stumble across a battlefield? And spend a half hour as soldiers, for no real plot reason?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (39g3+)

They did seem kind of out of place.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:30 PM (nBr1j)

618 To Have and to Have Not

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 09:30 PM (Uysai)

619 There was trench warfare in the Civil War. Fredericksburg and Richmond I think. But the European powers refused to study American battles because they viewed the American military and lowbrow militias.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (f3MDZ)


And the Russo-Japanese war, same lessons unlearned, but neither really compared to the stupidly overwhelming scale of WWI. I don't know if there was anything that could have been learned, even if everyone was paying attention.

Tring to decide if Cain Mutiny is a war movie
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:26 PM (aC6Sd)


Gonna go with no, personally. It's a brilliant military absurdity movie and just a really good story, but it feels more like it happens to be set during a war.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:30 PM (fZuhk)

620 Dan'l Boone est mort?

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Wiki says he died in 2010 but I'm sure I read only a few days ago that he died.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:30 PM (+y/Ru)

621 off sock

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 09:31 PM (ANIFC)

622 Trivia: What was Guy Gibson's dog's name?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (+y/Ru)

Don't say it!

Posted by: Samuel L Jackson at May 26, 2018 09:31 PM (QLvwG)

623 They felt really strange though, out of place. Like he'd filmed the sequences earlier and just wanted to use them. At no point in the film did you feel like the movie was set within 1000 miles of the Civil War, then they stumble across a battlefield? And spend a half hour as soldiers, for no real plot reason?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (39g3+)

--The film was shot during the Vietnam War.

"Message," and all that.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:31 PM (e7oj4)

624 "Battle of Britain" was the first move I ever saw in a theater, with my dad, when it first came out.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:31 PM (sdi6R)

625 Great Raid with James Franco. Based on "Ghost Soldiers" book. Bought the movie in 2005.

Also I think it was made for HBO, but "The Gathering Storm" about Churchill and Britain leading up to WW2. Interesting character in that was a guy in the Foreign Office who was secretly feeding info on German rearmament to Churchill in his bid to bring Britain up to speed on Hitler's Germany. Ralph Wigram was his name. His wife is played by the lovely Lena Headey.

Posted by: Rex B at May 26, 2018 09:31 PM (h7GHl)

626 Lizzy,

What they did to Tommy Robinson was vacate a previous sentence under a pretext. Still very bad optics, silencing patriotic Britons over invading barbarians. Very sad situation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (hyuyC)

627 I will catch Private Ryan on TV and that first 15 mins still blows my mind 20 years later.

Posted by: #neverskankles at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (pJWZ4)

628 Fess Parker long gone, but I think his wine is still around thats why I thought he was.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (aC6Sd)

629 WWI makes me mad because it's the stupidest war ever fought the most stupid ways for the most stupid reasons that ended up killing everyone.

I agree. It was a stupid, pointless movie that murdered millions of people and ruined an entire continent. We're paying the price for the madness of those years still to this day. The very landscape of Europe was scarred permanently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (39g3+)

630 If we're talking realism ... nothing comes close to The Last Starfighter.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (ftdxp)


The Death Blossom scene is an excellent portrayal of Iraqi combat tactics.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (Tnhbr)

631 Bandersnatch, as I've written here before, it seems that WW1 was basically a drunken barroom brawl writ large over Europe.

And Christopher, I generally agree. GBU isn't really a Civil War flick, at all.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (eMKNe)

632 Christopher, we're also still dealing with the fallout from the Civil War.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:33 PM (eMKNe)

633 Gee whiz, it's almost like all of the European powers in WW1 were lead by inbred assclowns who had no idea what they were doing and needlessly threw away millions of lives.
Good thing that can't happen today.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:33 PM (f3MDZ)

634 Hamburger Hill

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:33 PM (aC6Sd)

635 Fess Parker long gone, but I think his wine is still around thats why I thought he was.
Posted by: Skip

I swear I saw a bottle this afternoon at the "package" store. Never knew he was vintner.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:34 PM (+Tibp)

636 Britain lost two generations of men In WWI and WWII. The impact was staggering.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 09:34 PM (nBr1j)

637 "a bridge too far" - even at the time i thought it was simply defeatism - it was really about viet nam.

they took monty's preposterous scheme (and what happens after they take the last bridge - you'd have to move a million men in a month or two to exploit it - which no one was prepared to do) and ike's mistake in allowing it - and conflated it with a post-viet nam malaise - "oh, war is all pointless and a failure" thing.

redford at his most philosophical.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:35 PM (Pg+x7)

638 I agree. It was a stupid, pointless movie that murdered millions of people and ruined an entire continent. We're paying the price for the madness of those years still to this day. The very landscape of Europe was scarred permanently.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (39g3+)

--Book Thread tie-in:

Chapter 9 of my incubating novel.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:35 PM (e7oj4)

639 Okay, if we're talking about actors who are generally held in high regard, I put Jimmy Stewart at the top of that list. Yes, he was heroic during the war, when he could easily have stayed home, but I find his acting entirely unconvincing and irritating.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2018 08:56 PM (LAe3v)

++++

I'll give you that he could really be irritating at times, but I think he has done some fine work. Firecreek and Anatomy of a Murder, to name two of my favorites.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 09:35 PM (pvjTE)

640 "WWI makes me mad because it's the stupidest war ever fought"

And WWII was the second half, after a 20 year halftime.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 09:35 PM (pV/54)

641 Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

Only Grand Fenwick can save the EU now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 09:36 PM (hyuyC)

642 WWI makes me mad because it's the stupidest war ever fought the most stupid ways for the most stupid reasons that ended up killing everyone.

And the "peace" lead directly to WWII.

We joke about the French, but they gave a lot in WWI. They almost collapsed.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:36 PM (+Tibp)

643 Speaking of Bizarro World: Lindy Graham is making fucking sense right now.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:36 PM (e7oj4)

644 Except for air warfare WWI is just mass slaughter with hardly any interest for me.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:36 PM (aC6Sd)

645 Bandersnatch, as I've written here before, it seems that WW1 was basically a drunken barroom brawl writ large over Europe.

Then this is obligatory. If WWI were a barfight.


https://bit.ly/1hYdt3Z

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 09:37 PM (fuK7c)

646 I see a car smashed at night
Cut the applause and dim the light
Monty's face is broken on a wheel
Is he alive? Can he still feel?

[Chorus]
And everybody say, "Is he all right?"
And everybody say, "Shine the light!"
Everybody say, "It's not funny"
That's Montgomery Clift, honey!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 09:37 PM (pV/54)

647 wurs da luv?

Posted by: Platoon at May 26, 2018 09:37 PM (Ymy4N)

648 The USA had absolutely no business being in WWI and neither did anyone in Europe, for that matter. It was basically a wang measuring match between Germany and Britain, who had the best toys and was the most important nation. At the cost of the manhood of an entire generation. For what?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:37 PM (39g3+)

649 Holy M1 Grarand! No mention of Battleground in over 600 posts about war movies? For shame!

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 09:37 PM (AMIL/)

650 Speaking of Bizarro World: Lindy Graham is making fucking sense right now.
Posted by: logprof

No, no. I assure just yesterday he said a spy is not an informant.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:38 PM (+Tibp)

651 MarkusT if you are around. What apart from the usual movie crap was different for the guy so the ground in Somalia? Just curious.
Also The Patriot was utter shite.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 26, 2018 09:38 PM (5h9Yn)

652 Guy Gibson's dog? LOL. I have joked with Brits that that word is only acceptable amongst blacks yoday. But that if Blacks now continue to call each other "dog", then perhaps in the Damvudter movie it is acceptable to have a dog named (achooo!)

Posted by: Rex B at May 26, 2018 09:38 PM (h7GHl)

653 648: huh?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:38 PM (Pg+x7)

654 > "Tom Wilkinson was a good Cornwallis."
>> "My favorite lines: "Damn him. Damn that man!", and "you dream, general"."

My favorite lines are the ones that followed that as Cornwallis surveyed the battlefield at Yorktown and knew the vaunted British army was beaten:

"How could it come to this ... an army of rabble ... *peasants*. Everything will change now."

Then a moment of realization: "Everything *has* changed,"

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 26, 2018 09:39 PM (kZZPS)

655 And Battleground, love that movie

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:39 PM (aC6Sd)

656 sigh

Posted by: Zombie Archduke Ferdinand at May 26, 2018 09:39 PM (Tyii7)

657 644 Except for air warfare WWI is just mass slaughter with hardly any interest for me.
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:36 PM (aC6Sd)

Bugger off!!

Posted by: Field Marshal Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck at May 26, 2018 09:39 PM (e7oj4)

658 Except for air warfare WWI is just mass slaughter with hardly any interest for me.


Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:36 PM


The East African Front is pretty interesting and a very different sort of warfare.

Posted by: otho at May 26, 2018 09:40 PM (7xR2D)

659 @629
It helps to view that past and why it was so violent through the prism of alcohol.


Pretty much everyone, including kids drank alcohol, morning till night.
So when you come across something that doesn't make any sense, it's a good bet alcohol was involved.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 26, 2018 09:41 PM (UfMVm)

660 No, no. I assure just yesterday he said a spy is not an informant.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 09:38 PM (+Tibp)

--Wasn't that a Demodouche?

Posted by: Field Marshal Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck at May 26, 2018 09:41 PM (e7oj4)

661 Another good John Wayne war movie: In Harm's Way.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:41 PM (+y/Ru)

662 610 The civil war scenes in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly were memorable.

They felt really strange though, out of place. Like he'd filmed the sequences earlier and just wanted to use them. At no point in the film did you feel like the movie was set within 1000 miles of the Civil War, then they stumble across a battlefield? And spend a half hour as soldiers, for no real plot reason?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:29 PM (39g3+)

++++

It was necessary to the plot because Leone wanted to say the Vietnam War was bad.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 09:41 PM (pvjTE)

663 Kelly's heroes is a caper movie that just takes place like lots of love stories during a war.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:41 PM (aC6Sd)

664 /sorry, Herr Lettow-Vorbeck

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:42 PM (e7oj4)

665 He's not human. He's from another galaxy entirely. From "long, long ago" no less. He LOOKS human but whatever he does sexually is just whatever that species does. The fixation with making them fit some leftist special identity niche is just tiring. Think more like Arcturians in Aliens.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (39g3+)


Huh? Where'd you get that?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lando_Calrissian

Lando Calrissian was a human male smuggler, gambler, and card player who became Baron Administrator of Cloud City and, later, a general in the Rebel Alliance.


Why are you engaging in apologetics for the SJW people at Disney crapping all over the franchise?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 09:42 PM (/qEW2)

666 "We have to push on to Berlin. If we don't show the Germans they're beaten, we'll be fighting his war again in 20 years"
-shit John J. Pershing said

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:42 PM (f3MDZ)

667 654 > "Tom Wilkinson was a good Cornwallis."

An actor that would of fit in any decade

Posted by: Platoon at May 26, 2018 09:42 PM (Ymy4N)

668 There are a few movies that use east Africa during WWI, Africa Queen, Shout at the Devil to name two.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:43 PM (aC6Sd)

669 foch famously predicted that the armistice was a mistake - that you had to march on berlin and utterly defeat germany - and that germany would be back on the march in 20 years. he was right almost to the day.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:44 PM (Pg+x7)

670 WWI started off as basically the Germans vs. the French. The British were allies of the French and got involved. And that eventually drew us in.

I really don't see why there would have been a problem if Germany had rolled over France and conquered them.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)

671 The East African Front is pretty interesting and a very different sort of warfare.
Posted by: otho at May 26, 2018 09:40 PM (7xR2D)

See: The African Queen.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:45 PM (T71PA)

672 Why are you engaging in apologetics for the SJW people at Disney crapping all over the franchise?

Because people in another damned galaxy aren't human. They claim it in the writeups and stuff but seriously? They aren't just from another planet, they aren't just from another star system, they're from an entirely different planet. The need for leftists to inject sexual politics into ALIENS is retarded.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:45 PM (39g3+)

673 The East African Front is pretty interesting and a very different sort of warfare.
Posted by: otho at May 26, 2018 09:40 PM (7xR2D)


And the Eastern Front. And the Atlantic. The only part that really lives up to the meatgrinder of static trench warfare and cloudy with a chance of shells is the Western front, and even then you could make an argument that it's only really places like the Somme and Passchendaele/Ypres and Verdun and so on. There was more maneuver than people often realize.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:45 PM (fZuhk)

674 ... he said unless you defeated germany they would never accept that they lost. he was right.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:45 PM (Pg+x7)

675 I really don't see why there would have been a problem if Germany had rolled over France and conquered them.
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)

--Agreed.

Like in 1871, they would not have stayed put in Paris and just picked off Morocco and some other useless colonies and that would be that.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:46 PM (e7oj4)

676 I really don't see why there would have been a problem if Germany had rolled over France and conquered them.
Posted by: rickl

If America hadn't gotten involved, all of those Germans leaving the Eastern front probably would've rolled the French and the Brits would've sued for peace. France was on the verge of collapse and their army was having uprisings.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:47 PM (f3MDZ)

677 If Band of Brothers was a movie, it would be among the top 20 of all time.

Posted by: Mega at May 26, 2018 09:47 PM (rv0Fo)

678 666: shit pershing said - i think it was foch.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:47 PM (Pg+x7)

679 And the Eastern Front. And the Atlantic. The only part that really lives up to the meatgrinder of static trench warfare and cloudy with a chance of shells is the Western front, and even then you could make an argument that it's only really places like the Somme and Passchendaele/Ypres and Verdun and so on. There was more maneuver than people often realize.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:45 PM (fZuhk)


The early stages of the war were maneuver. The problem was that once the Germans were halted everything settled into a stalemate and commanders had few options.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 09:47 PM (Tnhbr)

680 if the humanoids in star wars aren't actually human there are no stakes.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 09:47 PM (X/A4v)

681 Dunno if it counts as a war movie or a drama, but: Downfall.
Posted by: Vanya at May 26, 2018 09:00 PM


Steiner will come.

Posted by: You know who at May 26, 2018 09:48 PM (DMUuz)

682 A film I've not seen mentioned is a very good one with Clint Eastwood: Heartbreak Ridge.

I've also got a soft spot for the fictionalized post Pearl Harbor movie "In Harm's Way". Patricia Neal steals the show.

Now, I know it's about the Commonwealth air war in WWII, but the movie with the most beautiful airplane ever made, the DH98 Mosquito (with the possible exception of the CF-105 Avro Arrow) is 633 Squadron. It's also possibly at least partially responsible for the X-Wing fighter sequence in Star Wars IV. There's a wonderful send up of this on Youtube, e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU

Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 26, 2018 09:49 PM (KguO5)

683 666 "We have to push on to Berlin. If we don't show the Germans they're beaten, we'll be fighting his war again in 20 years"
-shit John J. Pershing said

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2018 09:42 PM (f3MDZ)

Military writer James F. Dunnigan claims that you only really win a war when your infantry occupy all of your enemy's homeland cities.

Posted by: Gref at May 26, 2018 09:49 PM (AMIL/)

684 I agree if BoB was a Movie it would go into my top 10.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:49 PM (aC6Sd)

685 musical jolly chimp, yup.

In 1945 we kinda/sorta got the next best thing: Germany sliced literally in half, the long way. Kind of an Inspector Clouseau-style resolution...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:49 PM (eMKNe)

686 if the humanoids in star wars aren't actually human there are no stakes.

That's silly. Good writing and good filmmaking can make you care about anything, human or not. I mean people care what happens to Spock and he's Vulcan. People care about what happens to the animals in Watership Down, the hobbits in Lord of the Rings.

Being human is not necessary to making a film matter or for there to be stakes involved. Chewbacca is a walking rug, but people care about what happens to him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:49 PM (39g3+)

687 Military writer James F. Dunnigan claims that you only really win a war when your infantry occupy all of your enemy's homeland cities.
Posted by: Gref

Well shit!

Posted by: James K Polk at May 26, 2018 09:50 PM (f3MDZ)

688 Was America in any kind of depression/recession just prior to WW1, a la 1941 and the sequel WW2?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (eMKNe)

689 ww I started of as the germans (and austrians) against the russians. that triggered france's entry as an ally of russia from treaty obligations. britain entered technically because of the violation of belgian neutrality.,, i think.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (Pg+x7)

690 Black Hawk Down WAS a giant clusterfuck. But, despite all that was fucked up about that day, it was an overwhelming American victory. However, it should have been an even greater victory.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (IuYIh)

691 And the ONT is go!

Posted by: James K Polk at May 26, 2018 09:52 PM (f3MDZ)

692 May I mention one of the greatest war movies that I have ever been a part of...?

Posted by: Rear Adm. Jar-Jar Binks (ret.) at May 26, 2018 09:52 PM (c/EDo)

693 Bandersnatch, your link is exactly why I describe WW1 as a barroom brawl. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 09:52 PM (eMKNe)

694 ww I started of as the germans (and austrians) against the russians. that triggered france's entry as an ally of russia from treaty obligations. britain entered technically because of the violation of belgian neutrality.,, i think.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (Pg+x7)


The Brits were long defenders of Belgium. Part of the reason for the Maginot line was to force the Germans to go through Belgium, both to concentrate French defenses across a smaller area, as well as to draw in the Brits.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (Tnhbr)

695 Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand, yeah, it's nice when things like that happen. On the other, if we just bent the rules every time, Uranus would still be named George.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (fZuhk)
---
I just that read today in a book on our solar system. George III, no less.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (qJtVm)

696 WWI makes me mad because it's the stupidest war ever fought the most stupid ways for the most stupid reasons that ended up killing everyone.

I agree. It was a stupid, pointless movie that murdered millions of people and ruined an entire continent. We're paying the price for the madness of those years still to this day. The very landscape of Europe was scarred permanently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


The stupid was already there before the war.
The wars were interruptions of the stupid.

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (Uysai)

697 I like both A Bridge too Far and The Great Escape if only because I got to meet both Col. Jerry Sage ( a part inspiration for Steve McQueen's character) and Moffat Burris, who led the crossing of the Nijmegen bridge (portrayed by Robert Redford).

Burris was so impressed by the ability of Army engineers to construct bridges from prefab components during Market Garden that he later started a very successful construction company based on what he had seen.

Remarkable men; both gave many talks at schools, and I think inspired more than a few who had the privilege or hearing and meeting them.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (zCyNd)

698 That was close, didn't realize we were into the 600's

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:54 PM (aC6Sd)

699 I keep bringing this up but the second Thin Man movie demonstrates his skill really well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018
------------Interesting, that is my take on JS also, his last scene in the Thin Man 2 was so moving, I almost sympathize with Stewart even though he is the bad guy.
-------------------
I'll give you that he could really be irritating at times, but I think he has done some fine work. Firecreek and Anatomy of a Murder, to name two of my favorites.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 09:35 PM (pvjTE)
---------------------------
Agreed, depends on the script & director, Stewart was a decent actor but was really good when he was casted correctly & had good direction. Otto Preminger directing & musical score for AofaM makes that one a real treat. I even enjoyed Stewart in comedies like The Philadelphia Story & the Mr. Hobbs Takes a Vacation series.

Posted by: BebeDahl at May 26, 2018 09:54 PM (yNyJy)

700 695 Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand, yeah, it's nice when things like that happen. On the other, if we just bent the rules every time, Uranus would still be named George.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:27 PM (fZuhk)
---
I just that read today in a book on our solar system. George III, no less.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 09:53 PM (qJtVm)


To be fair, it was the first time in human history that a new planet was discovered, so there was no existing protocol about what to name it.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

701 ww I started of as the germans (and austrians) against the russians. that triggered france's entry as an ally of russia from treaty obligations. britain entered technically because of the violation of belgian neutrality.,, i think.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 09:51 PM (Pg+x7)

--(Metropolitan) Germany was >95% ethnic German, but was some how more oppressive than Russia, which was ~55% ethnically Russian.

Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2018 09:56 PM (e7oj4)

702 --Read about Cold Harbor and Battle of the Crater.

I think that the second assault at Cold Harbor was the one mistake that Grant admitted to.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 09:58 PM (yQpMk)

703 Nood.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 26, 2018 09:59 PM (T71PA)

704 For those interested in a war movie with likely the most massive non-CGI battle scenes EVAH, check out the epic (> 7hr long!) Soviet version of War and Peace.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063794/

The Battle of Borodino had about 100,000 extras!

The whole movie is visually stunning and puts to shame the Fonda and Hepburn version.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 26, 2018 10:00 PM (KguO5)

705 you know I

youse to hate this guy

but he was persistent.

love ..love ....love

AOSHQ

Posted by: withheld at May 26, 2018 10:01 PM (NLRMV)

706 Although they had had prior successes together, Hitchcock blamed Jimmy Stewart for the box office failure of Vertigo.

I thought he was good in it, although too old for Kim Novak, and in It's a Wonderful Life, for playing a normal guy on the edge of insanity.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 10:02 PM (pV/54)

707 Ignoramus, I LOVE Vertigo.

Great flick for anyone, especially guys who've been fcuked over by women.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (eMKNe)

708 ... i blame ww I on germany. it wasn't so much a wang contest between germany and britain (taylor op cit) as a wang contest between germany and the world. germany was playing catch up to centuries of english and french national imperial dominance during which germamy was a bunch of city-states. they really though of themselves as superior, as the force for the future, for the modern, for the new order in europe.

hitler did, too.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 10:03 PM (Pg+x7)

709 ... in a sense, ww I & II were another 300 years war of german struggle for dominance in europe as a nation state. very costly.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 10:05 PM (Pg+x7)

710 30 year war, not 300 year war [although that might happen].

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 10:06 PM (Pg+x7)

711 ... yeah, i blame germany for the whole damn thing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 10:06 PM (Pg+x7)

712 As I understand it, Germany had a chip on its shoulder for quite a long time in Europe, and WW1 was when someone else finally got fed up enough to knock it off.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 10:08 PM (eMKNe)

713 Vertigo is in my top ten. Great insight into sexual obsession. Some truly magical scenes.

I see it in a meta way, and don't get caught up in low level plot issues.

British Film Institute's Sight & Sound now ranks it #1 ever.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 10:08 PM (pV/54)

714
With a lot of those European wars, you'd need to give out flowcharts with the DVD set so everyone could follow the factions and who's who's great grand nephew twice removed and who's only *once* removed (Looking at you, War of Spanish Succession).
Posted by: Zombie James Buchanan at May 26, 2018 08:13 PM (U7voe)






Hell, look at the Balkan Wars, just before WWI. The Balkan League (Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro) get together with the goal of kicking the Ottomans out of Europe. Presumably for the crime of producing stupid furniture. But I digress.

First Balkan War, 1912-1913: The League defeats the Ottomans in a few months of fighting, and kicks them out of virtually all of their European territory.

Second Balkan War, 1913: About a week after the First Balkan War ends, Serbia and Greece decide to keep more captured territory than was allowed for in their pre-war agreement with their allies. Because fuck those guys. Bulgaria gets pissed off and attacks their formerly allied Serbia and Greek forces. They haven't even finished burying the dead from the last war.

Romania, who had been sitting on the sidelines, figures this is a good time to jump in and steal some land from Bulgaria, so they attack. The Ottomans decide to attack as well, and take back a big chunk of the land they'd lost only a few weeks before.

Basically, it's a total cluster-fuck for about a month, until Bulgaria decides they've had enough of getting their asses kicked.

Serbia (who pretty much instigated both wars, and has been a bunch of troublemaking assholes for decades) is quite pleased with how things turned out and decides to look to Austria-Hungary. And in an attempt to become the biggest assholes on the planet, about a year later their intel service plots the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 10:09 PM (eXA4G)

715 714 ill-tempered cur:

i did not know that. wow.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (Pg+x7)

716 I've gotten older, and so now have opinions I wouldn't have thought of years ago,

Germany is a fucked up nation. Every generation (or at most two) they create a World crisis. And they have sick porn.

A lot of good Germans left and became great Americans. It's nothing genetic, just a European culture rotten at its court.

Am I wrong

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (pV/54)

717 Because people in another damned galaxy aren't human. They claim it in the writeups and stuff but seriously? They aren't just from another planet, they aren't just from another star system, they're from an entirely different planet. The need for leftists to inject sexual politics into ALIENS is retarded.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 09:45 PM (39g3+)


Gah... I completely misread your point. That's a bad habit of mine. My apologies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 10:13 PM (/qEW2)

718 I watched Dunkirk and thought it was very good. Reviews I read complained about a lack of characters. To me that was a plus. It was anonymous soldiers going through hell. I didnt need to know their back stories.and it had no comedic parts either, another thing I thought was a huve plus.

Posted by: #neverskankles at May 26, 2018 10:17 PM (pJWZ4)

719 In Harms Way, Destination Tokyo, The Enemy Below, Run Silent, Run Deep, Time Limit The Rack

Posted by: Locke Common at May 26, 2018 10:27 PM (+v1++)

720 yeah.. late to the party once again..
I do like Saving Private Ryan.. really one of my favorites.. and those first 20 minutes,, ye gods!
Covering the same portion of WWII.. is the HBO Band of Brothers series.. I have the boxed set and break it our every few years or so..
It was also on Netflix streaming for a while..
very well done.. and one could say Spielberg and Hanks and DREAMWORKS weren't done with Saving Private Ryan and Winter's book provided the perfect vehicle to expand on that period.. All the battles SPR could not cover are there.. and I relished each episode.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 26, 2018 10:35 PM (5tSKk)

721 Don't watch anything in particular for Memorial Day, but Himself and I watch Gettysburg every year on the 4th of July. We used to watch 1776 first, but we haven't done that for the past several years.

This may sound silly, but I think Kelly's Heroes is an excellent WW II movie. It demonstrated just exactly what the average GI was up against in Europe -- the Nazis, the terrain, some of their own officers, and the difficulty of fighting house to house. It also portrayed the inventiveness and determination of the average American soldier. Of course, I have also read every Bill Mauldin cartoon from the war, too. So many of the scenes in Kelly's Heroes seemed to have come right out of a Mauldin cartoon.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 26, 2018 10:36 PM (eNyDO)

722 There's a lot of Kelly's Heroes in Three Kings, which is set in the First Gulf War.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 10:40 PM (pV/54)

723 722
So your saying Hollywood remade something....shocka

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 26, 2018 10:46 PM (CDETr)

724 Godfather Vito Corleone. He made sure Frank Sinatra was in it. All it took was a little head in bed.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

Sure you're not talking about Monty ??
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2018 09:06 PM (Ymy4N)

You may be aware of the story. If not, Mario Puzo created the character of Johnny Fontaine, an Italian crooner whose voice wasn't what it used to be. He came to Corleone and begged him to intervene in this Hollywood movie that he'd be perfect in and get him out of his slump. Supposedly, this was based on true incidents in Sinatra's life. His voice was not in the same league as it used to be in, he was in trouble because of his affair with Ava Gardner, and he wasn't able to find work like he had in his heyday. He miraculously got the part of Maggio, for which he won an Oscar, and he was back on top. Sinatra was furious with Puzo for letting the cat out of the bag. Let's be honest: Sinatra was rather homely. His voice, was not the best. He did work with the best musicians, songwriters and music producers and his product was solid. But, there were many singers with voices better than Sinatra. And many people have said that his success came from his mob connections. When some one compliments Siinatra's singing, they usually throw in comments about his phrasing, not the quality of his voice.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 10:49 PM (9BLnV)

725 Not a remake. It takes the plot of Kelly's Heroes and then says what if this happened in April Glaspie's War.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 10:51 PM (pV/54)

726 They Were Expendable.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 26, 2018 11:05 PM (Zskvw)

727 275
13 Hours. Meh. The book was better. M

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2018 08:15 PM (SeyTv)

=============

The book is almost always better, but this movie was as true to the book as any I've seen and tremendously realistic and well-done.

Posted by: ShainS at May 26, 2018 11:08 PM (BiLU+)

728 Glad to see someone mention the Manchurian Candidate...really weird dialogue, bizarre romantic subplots, and one of the great ick moments in film. Still, a classic.

I just watched Bad News Bears on MLB...it's actually kind of dark, reflecting the evolution of the culture in the 70s from fun Little League to free agent Little League. "Hey, Yankees...you can take your apology, and take your trophy, and shove it up your asses!"

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2018 12:04 AM (tBZZb)

Chess Thread 05-26-2018

20180526 chess pic.jpgSo Who Are These Famous, Old-Time Chess Players?
(No fair running a Google or Bing search on this image!)


Pic Note:

I see that the artist got the board wrong. Why does everyone make that mistake?


Easier Problem - White To Play (Bain 179)

Hint: Double check is the key to victory


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r1bk3r/ppp2ppp/2p5/8/4n3/8/PPPB2PP/2KR1B2 w - - 0 1


You Had One Job:

one job - chessboard.jpg


(This photo was snapped in East Lansing by hogmartin, who wonders "Am I supposed to play the f'ng tree?")


More Challenging Problem - White To Play (673)

Can White stave off defeat? If so, how?

Hint: First take care of one pawn, then the other


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5N1K/1p6/8/6p1/8/8/8/2k5 w - - 0 1


Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes:





20180526 dress pr0n 01.jpg




20180526 dress pr0n 02.jpg

20180526 dress pr0n 03.jpg

I wanted to cut out everything in this photo except the girl, but I just couldn't get it to look right. Plus, that ginger beard is completely awesome, so I had to leave the husband in. And the kid is cute, too, so yeah, he stays. The larger version looks way better, which you can see if you click on the pic.




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Solutions Update

Easier Problem - White To Play


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r1bk3r/ppp2ppp/2p5/8/4n3/8/PPPB2PP/2KR1B2 w - - 0 1

1. Bg5+!

No, not 1. Bb4+ Ke8 and the win has slipped away. The bishop is poorly posted on the b4 square.

1...Ke8
2. Rd8#

Boom.


More Challenging Problem - White To Play


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5N1K/1p6/8/6p1/8/8/8/2k5 w - - 0 1

I hope you call saw that White's only strategic goal is to see if he can force a draw. He can't win with just a knight. But perhaps he can capture one of the pawns and then trade his knight for the other.

1.Nh7 g4
2.Nf6 g3
3.Nh5 g2
4.Nf4 g1=Q
5.Ne2+ Kd2
6.Nxg1 Ke3

Phase 1 is now completed. Now for the other pawn:

7.Nh3 b5
8.Ng5 b4
9.Nf7!

This move doesn't look right, but it is the correct one. Wrong is 9.Ne6 b3 10.Nc5 b2 and White cannot stop the pawn.

9...b3
10.Nd6 Kd3

Not 10...b2? because of 11.Nc4+ and the knight fork secures the draw.

11.Nb5 b2
12.Na3 and White can forever shuffle his knight between the a3, b1, and c3 squares, keeping away from the Black king and either blocking the b1 queening square ot trading knight for queen if Black succeeds in pushing his pawn.

Black can try to stop the knight fork by underpromoting:

4...g1=N

But White can then bring his king into the game:

5.Kg7 b5
6.Nd5 Kc2
7.Kf6 Ne2
8.Ke5 Nc3
9.Nb4+ Kb3
10.Nc6 Ka4
11.Kd4 Nd1
12.Kc5 Nf2
13.Kd4 Ng4
14.Kd3 Nf6
15.Kd4 Nd7

Enroute to b8 to attempt to dislodge the knight.

16.Kc3

And Black can make no progress.

But let's say that Black sees the writing on the wall early on and thinks "screw this, I'm going to push the other pawn." Here is what will happen:

2...b5
3.Nxg4 b4
4.Kh7 Kd2
5.Ne5 b3
6.Nc4+ Kc3
7.Na3 Kb2
8.Nc4+ Kc2
9.Na3+ Kc3
10.Kg6 Kb4
11.Nb1 b2
12.Kg7 Kb3
13.Kh7 Kc2
14.Na3+

And Black is stuck.

Hope to see you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

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1 Here we go...

Posted by: HH at May 26, 2018 04:57 PM (mIJBI)

2 It's Peter Lorre and Time Traveling Geoffrey Rush.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 04:57 PM (qJtVm)

3 Melania Trump is 5'-11".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 04:58 PM (rnAwa)

4 Melania Trump is 5'-11".
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Our tallest First Lady after Barack Obama.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 04:59 PM (qJtVm)

5
Melania Trump is 5'-11".

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Our tallest First Lady after Barack Obama.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 04:59 PM (qJtVm)



heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 05:00 PM (ptqGC)

6 2 It's Peter Lorre and Time Traveling Geoffrey Rush.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 04:57 PM (qJtVm)


Yeah, they were part of a vocal group in the 50s. Not known to be chess players, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:00 PM (ITfBP)

7 It's a damned shame Melania doesn't have toned arms.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 05:01 PM (ptqGC)

8 That optic green/ yellow would drive me crazy

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:01 PM (aC6Sd)

9 Thank you OM.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 05:01 PM (hyuyC)

10 And I'll admit the guy on the right does kind of have that shifty, slimy Peter Lorre vibe about him.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:02 PM (ITfBP)

11 7 It's a damned shame Melania doesn't have toned arms.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 05:01 PM (ptqGC)


Transformative arms.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:02 PM (ITfBP)

12 Problem 1.

1. Bg5+ Ke8
2. Rd8#

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 05:04 PM (vWMNq)

13 Oscar Levant is the player on the right? Just a hunch...

Posted by: Bruce Strang at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (eAHdZ)

14 1st problem:

g5 + & discovered +. K-e1
r-d8 # checkmate

2nd problem
tips over white king
goes to next game

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (hyuyC)

15 That looks like one long game considering all the butts layin round.

Torpedoes no doubt!

Kasparov on the right?
What do i know.

Posted by: Loneranger at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (n8kwn)

16 Yeah I see there is no escape in problem #1

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:08 PM (aC6Sd)

17 Hey everybody. Mind if I make this the Chess and *Food* thread?

I just tried the Taco Bell Wild Chicken Chalupa. It's good but I did NOT realize... the chicken *is* the taco shell.

Tasty, but the thing even *looks* like a heart attack...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:08 PM (eMKNe)

18 (This photo was snapped in East Lansing by hogmartin, who wonders "Am I supposed to play the f'ng tree?")
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I play for keeps, hairless ape!

Posted by: The Triffid at May 26, 2018 05:10 PM (qJtVm)

19 The Wookie looked like she was 6-9 but maybe that was because standing next to Jug Ears everyone looks taller.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:10 PM (aC6Sd)

20 *Back to "The Puppet Masters"*

Posted by: The Triffid at May 26, 2018 05:11 PM (qJtVm)

21 Why have I never heard of Metalocalypse before today? Funny af.

Posted by: Pickles at May 26, 2018 05:11 PM (nAjD1)

22 Those guys? Roger Stone and Sal Mineo.

Posted by: Lunchonette at May 26, 2018 05:11 PM (a1s18)

23 I'm guessing Lasker smoking and Capablanca leaning over the board.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:13 PM (cHbmY)

24 I see that the artist got the board wrong. Why does everyone make that mistake?

What? You don't expect us to get it right even half the time do you? - Artists, everywhere

Posted by: tbodie at May 26, 2018 05:13 PM (cd/X8)

25 Kasparov on the right?
What do i know.
Posted by: Loneranger at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (n8kwn)


The drawing was done in 1909, which is a little before Garry's time.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:14 PM (ITfBP)

26 I don't think I ever played a chess game with the clock, not really sure how it works other than if you go over time allowed before opponent you lose no matter the position, right?

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:14 PM (aC6Sd)

27 Tall guy is on his sixth cigar.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 05:14 PM (fuK7c)

28 13 Oscar Levant is the player on the right? Just a hunch...
Posted by: Bruce Strang at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (eAHdZ)


No, sorry.

And, not that it matters, but I have never heard of Oscar Levant.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:15 PM (ITfBP)

29 Problem 2.

First two moves should be:

1. Ne6 g4
2. Nd4 ...

Now pawn on b7 is stopped and pawn on g4 cannot move because of the fork on e2 so next move will be black K. If *not* g4 then Nxg5 and white gets his N to c3 in 2 moves.

I'm going to have to work for a bit now ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 05:15 PM (vWMNq)

30 Is the one on the right young King Farukh?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:16 PM (qJtVm)

31 The guy on the left looks like Oscar Wilde....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2018 05:16 PM (wYseH)

32 And, not that it matters, but I have never heard of Oscar Levant.


The Levant is the area of the Mediterranean which is comprised mostly of Lebanon. An Oscar is an aquarium fish.

So Oscar Levant would be Beirut Sushi.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 05:17 PM (fuK7c)

33 >>> The drawing was done in 1909, which is a little before Garry's time.

I think that's before Capablanca, too. He would have been a youngster.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:17 PM (cHbmY)

34 Home!!!
I am home.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2018 05:17 PM (MzU3W)

35 Re the drawing: pretty sure the guy on the right is Capablanca.

My only guess for the guy on the left: Lyle Lovett. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:18 PM (eMKNe)

36 26 I don't think I ever played a chess game with the clock, not really sure how it works other than if you go over time allowed before opponent you lose no matter the position, right?
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:14 PM (aC6Sd)


Right. Generally, you're given 'x' amount of time to make 'y' number of moves. When it's your move, your clock is running. When you complete your move, you push the button on your side of the clock which stops your clock and starts you're opponent's clock.

Sometime, the entire game must be finished in 'y' minutes. That's the other major time control that gets used.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:18 PM (ITfBP)

37 fluffy, Capablanca was 21 in 1909.
Not sure if he was a wunderkind or not.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:18 PM (eMKNe)

38 Oscar Levanti, old movie piano player.

Posted by: Lunchonette at May 26, 2018 05:19 PM (a1s18)

39 How does Melania Trump manage to walk in those heels. Sure they look great and they make her legs look awesome. And I appreciate the effort but how does she do it?
Better those questions than how does Hillary manage with that cyborg attachment on her back?

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 05:20 PM (eAMlh)

40 Turns out Capablanca was a wunderkind, he first gained notice in 1901 it looks like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Raúl_Capablanca

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:20 PM (eMKNe)

41 First two moves should be:
1. Ne6 g4
2. Nd4 ...
Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 05:15 PM (vWMNq)


That's not my solution. Doesn't mean it's wrong, I'll have to look at it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:20 PM (ITfBP)

42 Let's try this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Raul_Capablanca

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:20 PM (eMKNe)

43 Whoever first said 'Capablanca' for the guy on the right can come up to the window and collect your winnings.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:22 PM (ITfBP)

44 Capablanca is guy on the right, I think.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:22 PM (aC6Sd)

45
Hey! Here's a fashion tip for all the Ladies!


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Lately, the exquisite and fashionable Mrs naturalfake had been wearing some new and just great looking blouses and dresses and so forth.

It turns out that they're all from Ivanka Trump's line, and all 70% off or more.

She was laughing about it telling me that there must be some people politically refusing to buy her line, but that her clothes are great. Excellent fabrics, great tailoring,and stylish.

She said every time she sees them on sale she buys because the price is fabuloso.

And, of course, it's nice to support Trump indirectly.


Anyway, if it's happening around here. It's probably happening where you live.

Give them a try.

You can be both classy and thrifty.

and give a surreptitious poke in the eye to the Dims and NeverTrumpers.

Such a bargain.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 05:22 PM (9q7Dl)

46 So who is Capablanca playing?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:22 PM (qJtVm)

47 He didn't become chess champion until 1927

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:23 PM (aC6Sd)

48 Not sure if he was a wunderkind or not.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:18 PM (eMKNe)


Capa learned to play chess prior to age 5 by watching his father and uncle play. So that makes him a bit of a wunderkind, I'd say.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:23 PM (ITfBP)

49 Again...what do i know?
Not much.

Posted by: Loneranger at May 26, 2018 05:23 PM (n8kwn)

50 23 I'm guessing Lasker smoking and Capablanca leaning over the board.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:13 PM (cHbmY)


One of these is correct.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:24 PM (ITfBP)

51 I looked it up, and it was a lot harder to find than I thought it would be, and not being a chess nut, I had no idea who either guy was anyway. The one who posted "Capablanca" was correct for the guy on the right.

Posted by: MW at May 26, 2018 05:24 PM (wNx6K)

52 >>> Whoever first said 'Capablanca' for the guy on the right can come up to the window and collect your winnings.

Woo hoo! Ampersands for life &&&&

I think I know who the cigar smoker is, but I asked the Internet.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:25 PM (cHbmY)

53 The drawing looks like a New Yorker cartoon, except they didn't start publishing until 1925.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 05:27 PM (fuK7c)

54 That tree is relentless.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:27 PM (fZuhk)

55 I see that the artist got the board wrong. Why does everyone make that mistake?
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Arty types are known to be Liberals, so, it follows that they would get it wrong.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 05:27 PM (c/EDo)

56 Oscar Levant's cynical piano player was the best thing about Humoresque:

Sid Jeffers: [regarding Helen Wright] She was born with a silver flask in her mouth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:28 PM (qJtVm)

57 53 The drawing looks like a New Yorker cartoon, except they didn't start publishing until 1925.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 05:27 PM (fuK7c)


The drawing is from 1909. Which is actually a hint at the identity of the players.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:28 PM (ITfBP)

58

I am marched out. Totally enjoyable day, but real tiring. Now comes the part where you get to eat and mingle.

Plus drink.

We had a shower earlier, it's SO humid that the water literally FELL out of the air. No breeze and I'm not certain the humidity level dropped but a fraction. Feels odd.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2018 05:28 PM (S/hVx)

59 That tree is relentless.
Posted by: hogmartin
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It's bark is worse than it's bite.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 05:29 PM (cp1if)

60 Problem 1:

1. Bg5+ Ke1
2. Rd8#

The first move is a double check, so the king must move.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 05:29 PM (sdi6R)

61 Well don't know what can be for supper except a big salad so I'm going to go start there.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:29 PM (aC6Sd)

62
The drawing is from 1909. Which is actually a hint at the identity of the players.
Posted by: OregonMuse
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The old guy is Vic?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 05:30 PM (cp1if)

63 It looks like Oscar Wilde is going to grab the little fellow's bishop.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2018 05:30 PM (oVJmc)

64 It's bark is worse than it's bite.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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'Its', before the grammar Nazis take me away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 05:31 PM (cp1if)

65 Siegbert Tarrasch

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:32 PM (aC6Sd)

66 That green table makes no sense, not just from the board pattern orientation. Can anyone tell me where the post meets the top? Unless this is an Escher original...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 05:32 PM (lLeln)

67 63 It looks like Oscar Wilde is going to grab the little fellow's bishop.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2018 05:30 PM (oVJmc)


Which is what got him arrested and sent to gaol, I believe.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:32 PM (ITfBP)

68 I was going to say the guy on the right is Capablanca, but I see others have already said that. I don't know who the guy on the left is. I'd have to look up who Capablanca played in 1909 or thereabouts.

The clock seems to have too many numbers on it.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 05:32 PM (sdi6R)

69 >>> That tree is relentless.

Pfft! Just another wood pusher.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:33 PM (cHbmY)

70 I wanted to cut out everything in this photo except the girl, but I just couldn't get it to look right. Plus, that ginger beard is completely awesome, so I had to leave it in. The larger version looks better, which you can see if you click on it.

++++

There is something weird in that pic anyway. If you look in between the couple, just above the wooden rail, there is a flesh colored something extending between them. Is it the gal's arm? If so, it should be sleeved. Plus, it is perfectly straight. The only way I can make it out to be her arm is if she has her elbow in his ribs, with her hand behind her own back. But, still should have a sleeve on that arm, plus why would she pose with her elbow in his ribs? The arm should go the other way, with her hand on him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 05:33 PM (pvjTE)

71 That green table makes no sense, not just from the board pattern orientation. Can anyone tell me where the post meets the top? Unless this is an Escher original...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 05:32 PM (lLeln)


The play field is stainless steel, not glass. You're seeing a reflection of the brick on the building behind me, not the mulch around the tree.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:34 PM (fZuhk)

72 Game Thread, right?

So Battlefield 5 is an SJW trainwreck and looks to be the next culture war in the ongoing battle of the neckbeards vs the SJWs.

#NotMyBattlefield

Featured heavily in the game trailer supposedly set in WWII is a diverse group of gorilla fighters led by a face painted red headed woman with some kind of robotic arm. I'm not fucking kidding. It's like a parody. But it's real.

Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2018 05:34 PM (QCc6B)

73 65 Siegbert Tarrasch
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 05:32 PM (aC6Sd)


No.

So, here is what you guys know so far:

1. The guy on the right is Capablanca
2. The drawing is from 1909.

That should be enough to establish the identity of the other player.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:34 PM (ITfBP)

74 54 That tree is relentless.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:27 PM (fZuhk)

++++

I take it the table was bolted down so you couldn't just rotate it?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (pvjTE)

75 I did an image search on "chess player cigar" and found the guy on the left. I took a guess at the guy on the right and looked for a cartoon of them, and found it. And yes according to wikipedia, it was 1909.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (/qEW2)

76 The play field is stainless steel, not glass. You're seeing a reflection of the brick on the building behind me, not the mulch around the tree.
Posted by: hogmartin


Ah. The reflection lines up so well with the ground features I thought it was transparent!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (lLeln)

77 The guy on the right is the Kip's Big Boy, the later years.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (9q7Dl)

78 That should be enough to establish the identity of the other player.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:34 PM (ITfBP)


Is it The Sicilian?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (fZuhk)

79 >>> Is it The Sicilian?

Inconceivable!

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:37 PM (cHbmY)

80 2. The drawing is from 1909.
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An insouciantly coiffed H.P. Lovecraft?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:38 PM (qJtVm)

81 75 I did an image search on "chess player cigar" and found the guy on the left. I took a guess at the guy on the right and looked for a cartoon of them, and found it. And yes according to wikipedia, it was 1909.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (/qEW2)

++++

A Tin Eye search is quicker. Only 3 hits, but one of them gives it away with the pic's file name.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 05:39 PM (pvjTE)

82 I keep seeing the name Capablanca as Casablanca and then I wonder when I wandered into the movie thread.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 05:40 PM (eAMlh)

83 Solo is an absolute dumpster fire.
How bad is it well...
...Han Solo isn't!!!
Think about how fucking stupid that is.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 26, 2018 05:40 PM (UfMVm)

84 It's Lyle Lovitt and Jon Lovitz.

Doncha just love it?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 26, 2018 05:40 PM (IeDO8)

85 I take it the table was bolted down so you couldn't just rotate it?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (pvjTE)


You assume correctly.

The reflection is also because that was the ONE angle where the glare from an overcast sky didn't wash out the shiny stainless board; playing in anything but heavy overcast would be impossible.* It's a lovely table suitable for any purpose except playing chess. It's here if you want to visit:
https://goo.gl/maps/7bgj3G3v8mD2



* luckily, heavy overcast is our business in mid-Michigan

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:41 PM (fZuhk)

86 Chess Thread Hooray!

3rd pic....dress on the right.

Yup, that come hither look.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 05:41 PM (EoRCO)

87 OK, I searched Capablanca's games in 1909 and figured out that it's Frank Marshall. Looking him up on Wiki confirmed it.

But I didn't Google or Bing search the image!

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 05:43 PM (sdi6R)

88 It's a lovely table suitable for any purpose except playing chess. It's here if you want to visit:
https://goo.gl/maps/7bgj3G3v8mD2

* luckily, heavy overcast is our business in mid-Michigan
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:41 PM (fZuhk)
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I'm more interested in Insomniac Cookies, which makes late night deliveries. Genius!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:44 PM (qJtVm)

89 The cigar-smoking gentleman in the drawing reminds me of Geoffrey Rush. Who, I understand, is ailing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 05:44 PM (Mkuv2)

90 A plan, a department store, an archipelago.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 05:44 PM (/qEW2)

91 Marshall!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:45 PM (qJtVm)

92 >>> I'm more interested in Insomniac Cookies, which makes late night deliveries. Genius!

You're having a fling with one of our prolific commenters?

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 05:46 PM (cHbmY)

93 The first move is a double check, so the king must move.
Posted by: rickl
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“Even the laziest King flees wildly in the face of a double check!”

Posted by: Aaron Nimzowitsch at May 26, 2018 05:46 PM (Zdm89)

94 I haven't seen any pictures of the First Lady since her hospital stay

Posted by: NCKate at May 26, 2018 05:46 PM (B6tS5)

95 Melania could make a burlap sack look good. She just has "it".
Something the Mooch completely lacks.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 26, 2018 05:47 PM (oLa9K)

96 I'm more interested in Insomniac Cookies, which makes late night deliveries. Genius!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 05:44 PM (qJtVm)


Late-night cookie delivery, across the street from campus: for when your after-bar food needs frosting and sprinkles on it.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:47 PM (fZuhk)

97 29 Problem 2.
First two moves should be:
1. Ne6 g4
2. Nd4 ...
Now pawn on b7 is stopped and pawn on g4 cannot move because of the fork on e2 so next move will be black K. If *not* g4 then Nxg5 and white gets his N to c3 in 2 moves.
Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 05:15 PM (vWMN


Black will push his king to d2, spoiling the fork and threatening Kd3 attacking the knight.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:49 PM (ITfBP)

98 Melania could make a burlap sack look good. She just has "it".
Something the Mooch completely lacks.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 26, 2018 05:47 PM (oLa9K)


There is a certain je ne sais quoi about being able to crush a man's skull like a walnut while unhinging her jaws though, non?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:49 PM (fZuhk)

99 87 OK, I searched Capablanca's games in 1909 and figured out that it's Frank Marshall. Looking him up on Wiki confirmed it.
But I didn't Google or Bing search the image!
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 05:43 PM (sdi6R)


Good for you. Yes, the drawing is of the famous Marshall-Capablanca match of 1909.

The particular game is the one they declared illegal because the board was set up wrong.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 05:52 PM (ITfBP)

100 The first move is a double check, so the king must move.

"Bowels no move."

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2018 05:53 PM (QxXRY)

101 Was sketching chess matches common back then? Is it supposed to be like a courtroom sketch, or a caricature?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:54 PM (fZuhk)

102 Does anyone have any recommendations for a good chess program for the Mac?

I finally found two programs at Amazon, HIARCS and ChessKing, but unfortunately they're a little costly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:54 PM (eMKNe)

103 Marshall and Capablanca played a match in 1909. So maybe the next challenge is to figure out which game is depicted in the drawing. But the artist couldn't even get the board right, so he may have just scattered the pieces randomly for all we know.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

104 "I see that the artist got the board wrong. Why does everyone make that mistake?"

Mistake? It worked, mate. They should have designed the board correctly. - The Artist

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 05:55 PM (9BLnV)

105 Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes:

Yes, definitely for the 'ettes, let's go with that.

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2018 05:56 PM (cp1if)

106 Is the couple with the kid part of some Renaissance Festival.

I usually don't like flowered dresses, but I like the one Melania is wearing. Nice colors. I couldn't wear it, but it looks great on her! And as for the heels it looks like she's walking on a smaller version of silts. Looks uncomfortable-those stilleto heels.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2018 05:57 PM (vw6r3)

107 Does anyone have any recommendations for a good chess program for the Mac?
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:54 PM (eMKNe)


What's "good"? You can play vs. the computer with the chess.com site or the app, and the gnuchess front-end at /Applications/Chess.app will be better than I am for the foreseeable future. It doesn't have a decent FEN parser or a position setup that I can find, but it's fine for just having a computer beat me.

Any particular features you're looking for?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:58 PM (fZuhk)

108 Make that "stilts".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2018 05:59 PM (vw6r3)

109 Mark Twain, although that isn't his real name?

Posted by: Carpe Manana at May 26, 2018 06:00 PM (6+W54)

110 As to the hippie family: the girl is lovely, the kid is adorable and the guy made me think back to when my beard and hair wasn't white. (It's been a while.)

The woman on the street with the flying saucer chapeau: what holds the hat on? Is there a hat pin through her head?

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 06:01 PM (V+03K)

111 hogmartin, thanks.

Re features, honestly I loved Chessmate by Gary Kasparov, back when that was available. It ran well, had tons of features, and you could play both the computer or others online. I'd go for a program or site that has all of those features.

The mac comes with a chess game but the graphics are pathetic and it won't even allow you to castle. You get what you pay for I guess.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 06:01 PM (eMKNe)

112 Melania could make a burlap sack look good. She just has "it".
Something the Mooch completely lacks.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 26, 2018 05:47 PM (oLa9K)

Oh, Mooch has "it", alright. I just don't want it.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 06:02 PM (9BLnV)

113 102 Does anyone have any recommendations for a good chess program for the Mac?

I finally found two programs at Amazon, HIARCS and ChessKing, but unfortunately they're a little costly.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 05:54 PM (eMKNe)


My older Mac came with Chess, which is a no-frills program that kicks my ass. Some years ago I downloaded Sigma Chess 6.1, which is pretty versatile. It enables me to set up and analyze positions and the FEN notation works with it. It also kicks my ass.

I'm still running OS 10.6.8, so I don't know what the options are for newer versions.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:04 PM (sdi6R)

114 The mac comes with a chess game but the graphics are pathetic and it won't even allow you to castle. You get what you pay for I guess.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 06:01 PM (eMKNe)


??

Sure you can. I just did to make sure I wasn't going nuts. What version are you running?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:06 PM (fZuhk)

115 >>> Is the couple with the kid part of some Renaissance Festival.

I'm thinking they are Swedes dressed for mid-summer day.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 06:08 PM (cHbmY)

116 I'm sorry that women don't wear hats anymore. The only place you see hats is at something like the royal wedding or on Sunday services at predominantly African American churches.

I used to wear hats a lot-because the sun bothers me and I like hats. Then the local head of the denomination saw me on the boardwalk at our yearly meeting and said, "There's_____ the hat lady!!" I was afraid after that if I were wearing a hat and tried to sneak out of the meeting to go out on the boardwalk for some air he'd know that I had left the meeting. Now I still wear hats sometimes-just not at our meetings!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2018 06:08 PM (vw6r3)

117 qdpsteve, launch the App Store and search for 'stockfish'. If your Mac can run it, install it (it's free).

If that's not a strong enough engine for you... man, I just don't know what to say.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:09 PM (fZuhk)

118 Holy moly, those are tall heels.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:11 PM (yQpMk)

119 I'm thinking they are Swedes dressed for mid-summer day.Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 06:08 PM (cHbmY)

LOL. I guess they're the Swedes who haven't yet forced the women into hijabs or burkhas. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2018 06:11 PM (vw6r3)

120 Melania Trump makes the last one pale in comparison.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 06:12 PM (zLDYs)

121 Generation "Disabled"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/297791/

Posted by: steevy at May 26, 2018 06:12 PM (LiyEm)

122 Melania is something else.

Wow.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 26, 2018 06:13 PM (WEBkv)

123 Late-night cookie delivery, across the street from campus: for when your after-bar food needs frosting and sprinkles on it.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 05:47 PM (fZuhk)



https://youtu.be/2c0SsG_YAG0?t=336

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 06:13 PM (/qEW2)

124 111 hogmartin, thanks.

Re features, honestly I loved Chessmate by Gary Kasparov, back when that was available. It ran well, had tons of features, and you could play both the computer or others online. I'd go for a program or site that has all of those features.

The mac comes with a chess game but the graphics are pathetic and it won't even allow you to castle. You get what you pay for I guess.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 06:01 PM (eMKNe)

++++

Looks like you can still get it. Roughly $35 for new, even less for used.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0000VLYXQ/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:13 PM (pvjTE)

125 Chess thread or book thread, which one or both?...Has anyome read Pieces of Eight?

Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 26, 2018 06:14 PM (99Nt9)

126 Why have I never heard of Metalocalypse before today? Funny af.
One of my favorite series.

Adult Swim has had a handful of gems. It's a real shame Brendon Small wasn't allowed to finish it - even after crowd sourcing some insane amount. [AS] told them to go pound sand, but kept the rights to the franchise. These networks apparently love sticking their finger in the eye of the creative minds that gave them so much money.

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2018 06:15 PM (RHEDC)

127 Can you just unscrew the shiny game board and rotate it 90 degrees? It looks like it's held on with four screws.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:15 PM (yQpMk)

128 We don't get a new thread until mystery man is identified

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 06:15 PM (aC6Sd)

129 115
I'm thinking they are Swedes dressed for mid-summer day.
Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 06:08 PM (cHbmY)


That sounds like a good guess. The photo looks too modern to be of 1960s hippies.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:16 PM (sdi6R)

130 Doesn't everyone care a multitool for just such needs?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:16 PM (yQpMk)

131 As to the hippie family: the girl is lovely, the kid is adorable and the guy made me think back to when my beard and hair wasn't white. (It's been a while.)

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 06:01 PM (V+03K)


Hippies!? Better stay away from Palpatine for awhile, JTB, lest you find yourself in a saber duel or something. That is traditional Slavic costume, I'm pretty sure, though not sure exactly which country.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 26, 2018 06:17 PM (bZ7mE)

132 Can you just unscrew the shiny game board and rotate it 90 degrees? It looks like it's held on with four screws.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:15 PM (yQpMk)


Just use a green vinyl club board, honestly, you have to bring your own pieces anyway.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:18 PM (fZuhk)

133 127 Can you just unscrew the shiny game board and rotate it 90 degrees? It looks like it's held on with four screws.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:15 PM (yQpMk)

++++

Judging by the quality of the craftsmanship, I doubt the screw holes are precisely symmetrical. Meaning that if you rotated it, all 4 holes might not line up anymore. Worth a shot though.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:19 PM (pvjTE)

134 In the lede photograph, is the guy one the left known for "playing the man," with the guy on the right known for hyperfocus on only the game.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 06:22 PM (pV/54)

135 I used to wear hats a lot-because the sun bothers me and I like hats. Then the local head of the denomination saw me on the boardwalk at our yearly meeting and said, "There's_____ the hat lady!!" I was afraid after that if I were wearing a hat and tried to sneak out of the meeting to go out on the boardwalk for some air he'd know that I had left the meeting. Now I still wear hats sometimes-just not at our meetings!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2018 06:08 PM (vw6r3)


Get all the women to wear hats. Tell them it's to obey that 1 Corinthians passage about the head coverings. Then you won't stand out so much if you want to ditch the meeting.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 06:23 PM (/qEW2)

136 I meant lede drawing.

And can't you just pick up the chess table and turn it 90.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 26, 2018 06:24 PM (pV/54)

137 Durward Kirby? Mister Green Jeans?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 06:25 PM (IqV8l)

138
I hate the Sun. But I don't like wearing hats.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:25 PM (e5LQi)

139 Doesn't everyone care a multitool for just such needs?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:16 PM (yQpMk)



Multitool! Multitool!

Posted by: Leeloo Corbin at May 26, 2018 06:25 PM (2K6fY)

140

I hate the Outside.

Also, I miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:26 PM (e5LQi)

141 140

I hate the Outside.

Also, I miss Winter.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:26 PM (e5LQi)

Buy yourself some of that spray on fake snow and use it on your windows. Then, just stay in the house. Easy peasey.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 26, 2018 06:28 PM (oLa9K)

142 138
I hate the Sun. But I don't like wearing hats.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:25 PM (e5LQi)

++++

Burka.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:30 PM (pvjTE)

143 140

I hate the Outside.

Also, I miss Winter.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:26 PM (e5LQi)


Same here. I had to mow the lawn today in oppressive heat and humidity. Now I'm back inside with the air conditioning on, and I may not leave the house again until I go to work on Tuesday.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:30 PM (sdi6R)

144 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:26 PM (e5LQi)

You must live somewhere where it's warm year round.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 06:30 PM (IYHxL)

145 131 ... "Hippies!? Better stay away from Palpatine for awhile, JTB, lest you find yourself in a saber duel or something. That is traditional Slavic costume, I'm pretty sure, though not sure exactly which country."

LOL! Who knew hippies were into cultural appropriation.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 06:30 PM (V+03K)

146
Buy yourself some of that spray on fake snow and use it on your windows. Then, just stay in the house. Easy peasey.

Unfortunately, that won't keep the grass from growing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 06:30 PM (IqV8l)

147 140

I hate the Outside.

Also, I miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:26 PM (e5LQi)

++++

So, you stay inside. And then, what difference does the season make?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:31 PM (pvjTE)

148 I have no idea about Problem 2. I'd prefer to identify as Black in this position.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:32 PM (sdi6R)

149 Ever since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:32 PM (yQpMk)

150 RIP Alan Bean.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 26, 2018 06:33 PM (brIR5)

151 RIP Alan Bean.


Sad, but inevitable. I wonder if the Apollo astronauts ever thought that they would not live to seen men walk on the Moon again. That's the real shame.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:35 PM (yQpMk)

152 We might be exploring the solar system but the Democrats took the money to breed a new crop of rat voters instead.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:36 PM (yQpMk)

153 Because the Chess side of the brain is not the art side of the brain.

The artists don't play chess.

Posted by: JAS at May 26, 2018 06:36 PM (ii30j)

154 I cut all the grass today and when I was done I found a headless chipmunk. Sad.

Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (UdKB7)

155 Problem 1:

Bg5+

Problem 2:

Nd7

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (RPXrN)

156 >>>Egypt, 1960s.#BeforeShariaSpoiledEverything

Maybe this is why the left loves Islam. Not only because it's totalitarian, but they think it contains the secret to get people to voluntarily renounce a free, Westernized society and embrace totalitarianism.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (/qEW2)

157 138
I hate the Sun. But I don't like wearing hats.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:25 PM (e5LQi)
----------------------------------
Me too.

Posted by: Count Dracula at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (0jtPF)

158 That man with the Ginger Beard could be Rollo the Viking, enjoying the French countryside with his new French Princess wife. Well, except for the kid's tennies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (V2Yro)

159 My brain has no chess side. The relaxation side, however, is fully developed.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 06:38 PM (MVjcR)

160 I see that the artist got the board wrong. Why does everyone make that mistake?

Because kids are taught all through school these days that white isn't right.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:38 PM (RPXrN)

161 Tower to Alan Bean, CAPT, USN RET.

You are cleared for unlimited altitude heading 270.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 06:39 PM (hyuyC)

162 Sad, but inevitable. I wonder if the Apollo astronauts ever thought that they would not live to seen men walk on the Moon again. That's the real shame."

Even worse, imagine living to see a time when the only way Americans can get into space is to beg the Russians for a ride.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 06:39 PM (V2Yro)

163 Famous players...Danny Kaye and Gomez Adams?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 26, 2018 06:39 PM (2NqXo)

164 Can White stave off defeat? If so, how?

Yes. Knight to D7 to prevent promotion, King goes after the near pawn, moves to defend Knight, muck about until you can take the 2nd pawn.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2018 06:39 PM (DMUuz)

165 151 RIP Alan Bean.


Sad, but inevitable. I wonder if the Apollo astronauts ever thought that they would not live to seen men walk on the Moon again. That's the real shame.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:35 PM (yQpMk)

Right? There should be at least one mining colony by now. Humanity is simultaneously brilliant and idiotic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 06:39 PM (Mkuv2)

166 I cut all the grass today and when I was done I found a headless chipmunk. Sad.
Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (UdKB7)


Would you like to buy one of mine? The ones I breed are too large to be decapitated accidentally. And they sing.

Posted by: Dave Seville at May 26, 2018 06:41 PM (/qEW2)

167 > "Who Are These Famous, Old-Time Chess Players?"

Film music composer John Barry and currently incarcerated former governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich?

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 26, 2018 06:41 PM (kZZPS)

168 RIP Alan Bean.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 26, 2018 06:33 PM (brIR5)


No kidding? Damn. Alan Bean was the other half of John Aaron's "try SCE to AUX" team. It took Aaron to think of it and Bean to do it, the only two people out of an army of literal rocket scientists who had any idea what the hell was going on.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:41 PM (fZuhk)

169 I'd prefer to identify as Black in this position.Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:32 PMWelcome, but Talcum X is taken.

Posted by: Shawn "Talcum X" King at May 26, 2018 06:41 PM (DMUuz)

170 That
man with the Ginger Beard could be Rollo the Viking, enjoying the
French countryside with his new French Princess wife. Well, except for
the kid's tennies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (V2Yro)


Of course. Tennies are just wrong. Vikings children would wear "Tiu Skor"

Posted by: Kindltotq at May 26, 2018 06:41 PM (2K6fY)

171
Assembled shelving racks, moved stuff from tool room to garage, showered, traveled into town for a seafood dinner and went shopping. Now it's time for a nap.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 06:41 PM (eM8BP)

Posted by: Kindltotq at May 26, 2018 06:42 PM (2K6fY)

173 Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast

We need a strong push from the American public.

Maybe a NASA SUTRA effort in low-earth orbit? That combines science, engineering and sex. Have Pornhub start the financing?

pbho killed the space program.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 06:42 PM (hyuyC)

174 I need to bestir myself to get the chainsaw to cut up some tree trunks left from last weekend because we are looking at a lot of rain over the next couple of days and I will probably not be able to do it latter if I don't do it now. But I don't want to do it now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:42 PM (yQpMk)

175 not even a sock, but a type for a stupid jokes about Icelandic shoes.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 06:42 PM (2K6fY)

176 I thought it was very nice out, low 80's sunny, took my painting hobby out onto the deck.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 06:42 PM (aC6Sd)

177 I would like Mrs. Trump to come to my house and aerate my lawn with those heels. I would offer her mimosas and scrambled eggs. I would also offer her my undying admiration, but she already has that.

She is a treasure.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (Mkuv2)

178 Egypt, 1960s.#BeforeShariaSpoiledEverything

It wasn't sharia that spoiled Egypt (especially as Egypt doesn't have sharia, anyway). Egypt in the 60s was an anti-Western shithole that did nothing but cause problems. Serious, major problems. I don't care what their women were allowed to wear - the place was awful and a burden on the world, to put it mildly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (RPXrN)

179 Solutions are up.

And the two mystery chess masters have been identified as Frank Marshall (left) and J.R. Capablanca (right).

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (ITfBP)

180 The nubile Debra Winger, Amazon sister to Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman, will be featured in the conclusion of a two part story on MeTV in 10 minutes.


Right now Ricardo Montaban is talking about fine Corinthian leather in an episode of The Wild Wild West.

Okay, he isn't talking leather.




Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (8iiMU)

181 I cut all the grass today and when I was done I found a headless chipmunk. Sad.

Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (UdKB7)


Your mower is set too high.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (RPXrN)

182 150 RIP Alan Bean.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 26, 2018 06:33 PM (brIR5)


RIP. Now we're down to four, and the youngest are 82.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts#
Apollo_astronauts_who_walked_on_the_Moon

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:44 PM (sdi6R)

183 I cut all the grass today and when I was done I found a headless chipmunk. Sad.

Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (UdKB7)



Is the Squirrelfather trying to send a message?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 06:45 PM (2K6fY)

184 Pretty soon we will be like that scene from Interstellar where the teacher is claiming that men going into space was all a hoax and a fraud.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:45 PM (yQpMk)

185 It wasn't sharia that spoiled Egypt (especially as Egypt doesn't have sharia, anyway). Egypt in the 60s was an anti-Western shithole that did nothing but cause problems. Serious, major problems. I don't care what their women were allowed to wear - the place was awful and a burden on the world, to put it mildly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (RPXrN)

Yup.....Nasser was a real peach.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 06:45 PM (EoRCO)

186 155 Problem 1:
Bg5+


Yes

Problem 2:
Nd7
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (RPXrN)


No.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 06:46 PM (ITfBP)

187 164 Can White stave off defeat? If so, how?

Yes. Knight to D7 to prevent promotion, King goes after the near pawn, moves to defend Knight, muck about until you can take the 2nd pawn.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2018 06:39 PM (DMUuz)

++++

You're reading the board backwards. Black is moving in the other direction. Nd7 won't prevent promotion, as that pawn will make it's first move to b5. Meanwhile, the pawn on the other side is too far away to catch with the king. As soon as white moves his king in that pawn's direction, he's off to the races. The king can only chase it, 2 squares behind, and watch it make queen.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:46 PM (pvjTE)

188 Problem 2:
Nd7
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (RPXrN)

No.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 06:46 PM (ITfBP)


I was looking at black's pawns moving in the wrong direction. Silly me. I hate when that happens.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:47 PM (RPXrN)

189 152 We might be exploring the solar system but the Democrats took the money to breed a new crop of rat voters instead.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:36 PM (yQpMk)
---
I am very happy that Trump is easing regulations on commercial space flight.

https://www.space.com/40700-trump-space-policy-private-spaceflight-deregulation.html

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 06:48 PM (qJtVm)

190 184 Pretty soon we will be like that scene from Interstellar where the teacher is claiming that men going into space was all a hoax and a fraud.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:45 PM (yQpMk)


Yes. I don't recall the exact quote or who said it, but "A Dark Age isn't when we forget how to do things. It's when people no longer believe it was ever possible to do those things."

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)

191
Anyone else thinking about the gopher and Carl Spackler in Caddyshack?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:49 PM (e5LQi)

192
Quick, name the gopher's song and singer in that movie!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:49 PM (e5LQi)

193 >>Maybe this is why the left loves Islam. Not only because it's totalitarian, but they think it contains the secret to get people to voluntarily renounce a free, Westernized society and embrace totalitarianism.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 06:37 PM (/qEW2)

Yes, but the real reason is they don't understand it.

Posted by: Caliban at May 26, 2018 06:50 PM (QE8X6)

194 Right? There should be at least one mining colony by now. Humanity is simultaneously brilliant and idiotic.

Well, the problem with that idea is that there doesn't seem to be anything worth mining on the moon. When the proto-earth and moon split up (however that played out, most likely a collision between 2 bodies, one smaller than the current earth, the other probably Mars sized) Earth was the lucky one and ended up with all of the metals and heavier elements, as the cores of both proto-planets merged to create the new Earth's massive nickel-iron core.

The moon has no metal core like earths, which is why it is so thoroughly dead. It's mostly just silicates - a big dead rock of little value, except as a platform.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 06:50 PM (V2Yro)

195 Regarding Alan Bean, and all the rest...

These precious few men set foot on another world, came home, and lived their lives, raised kids, played with grandkids, continued the mission. And Buzz Aldrin got to punch a hippie.

These were genuinely good men.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Old Elk Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 06:50 PM (Mkuv2)

196 Quick, name the gopher's song and singer in that movie!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:49 PM (e5LQi)


I'm Alright - Kenny Loggins

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 06:50 PM (RPXrN)

197 189
I am very happy that Trump is easing regulations on commercial space flight.

https://www.space.com/40700-trump-space-policy-private-spaceflight-deregulation.html

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 06:48 PM (qJtVm)


I heard about it. That is a Big Effing Deal.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:50 PM (sdi6R)

198 rickl

Good quote on the dark ages. We have areas of First World interspersed with third world now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 06:51 PM (hyuyC)

199 Quick, name the gopher's song and singer in that movie!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:49 PM (e5LQi)

"I'm All Right".....Kenny Loggins?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 06:51 PM (EoRCO)

200 Guy on the left doesn't look a bit like Barak

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 06:51 PM (aC6Sd)

201 1.Nh7 g4
2.Nf6 g3
3.Nh5 g2
4.Nf4 g1=Q
5.Ne2+ Kd2

++++

My app, the SOB, did this:

4.Nf4 g1=N
5.Ne2+ Nxe2

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:52 PM (pvjTE)

202
I'm Alright, Kenny Rogers?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:52 PM (e5LQi)

203 192 ... Song was "I'm All Right" and the singer was kenny Loggins.

I abase myself.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 06:52 PM (V+03K)

204 Quick, name the gopher's song and singer in that movie!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 26, 2018 06:49 PM (e5LQi)


Bust a Move, Young MC?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:52 PM (fZuhk)

205 Well, summer is definitely here in CenTex...96 but feels like 102. Upper 90's and low 100's for the next 3-4 months.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 06:53 PM (kufk0)

206 "I'm All Right"

No I'm not. Not at all.

Posted by: zombie headless chipmunk at May 26, 2018 06:54 PM (UdKB7)

207 Pretty soon we will be like that scene from Interstellar where the teacher is claiming that men going into space was all a hoax and a fraud.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 06:45 PM (yQpMk)


Remember the article by the SJW claiming that colonizing Mars would be sexist, since it would be encouraging the mindset that men can just grab planets by the mish the way they grab women? So maybe it's better this way.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 06:54 PM (/qEW2)

208 Debbie's got back!

Posted by: zombie headless chipmunk at May 26, 2018 06:55 PM (UdKB7)

209 Anyway, asteroid mining is where it's at baby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqW9HtPCnR0

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 06:55 PM (qJtVm)

210 Upper 90's and low 100's for the next 3-4 months.
Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 06:53 PM (kufk0)


Love you guys, but that's God's way of telling me to stay the hell out of Texas.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:55 PM (fZuhk)

211 colonizing Mars would be sexist, since it would be encouraging the mindset that men can just grab planets by the mish the way they grab women? So maybe it's better this way.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 06:54 PM (/qEW2)
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Mishin' to Mars!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 06:56 PM (qJtVm)

212 198
Good quote on the dark ages. We have areas of First World interspersed with third world now.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 26, 2018 06:51 PM (hyuyC)


And so many of the "best and brightest" in the First World seem intent on surrendering to the Third World.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:56 PM (sdi6R)

213 What ever happen to Jim Messina?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 06:56 PM (EoRCO)

214 201 1.Nh7 g4
2.Nf6 g3
3.Nh5 g2
4.Nf4 g1=Q
5.Ne2+ Kd2

++++

My app, the SOB, did this:

4.Nf4 g1=N
5.Ne2+ Nxe2
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 06:52 PM (pvjTE)


1. That's a brilliant solution.
2. You app has achieved AI.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

215 Are you rickl?
I'm looking for rickl.

Posted by: Sigma Chess 6.1 at May 26, 2018 06:58 PM (Evws/)

216 Anyway, asteroid mining is where it's at baby:
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 06:55 PM (qJtVm)


I signed up for ³He mining on the far side of the moon. Only three years. Seems like a good gig!

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:59 PM (fZuhk)

217 No movie thread? My brain is too small for chess.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 26, 2018 06:59 PM (l9m7l)

218 Right? There should be at least one mining colony by now.

We already know it's not made of cheese and there's no wimminz there so why bother?

Posted by: DaveA at May 26, 2018 06:59 PM (FhXTo)

219 We already know it's not made of cheese and there's no wimminz there so why bother?
Posted by: DaveA at May 26, 2018 06:59 PM (FhXTo)


For the surf rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptEwQN4KcHo

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:00 PM (fZuhk)

220 Look freaked, if that chipmunk had lived on, it might have suffered a painful death from some cat or owl. You did it a favor with a swift, painless execution.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 07:00 PM (/qEW2)

221 There's that bitch, the hat lady!!

Posted by: local head of the denomination at May 26, 2018 07:00 PM (Evws/)

222 OM, I think Anon Y. Mous' app busted your solution.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 07:01 PM (sdi6R)

223 Love you guys, but that's God's way of telling me to stay the hell out of Texas."

It's really not that bad, it all depends on how wet it is. Whenever there's a rain, the temperature cools way off. Now, there's years like the drought of 2011, and that was a beastly year, even the trees were dying. But now we're back to decent. only 94 here in East Texas.

Maybe I built up a tolerance growing up in Phoenix, where I got used to riding my bike when it was 115 out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:01 PM (V2Yro)

224
Quick, name the gopher's song and singer

Gopher Song. David Seville.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 07:01 PM (IqV8l)

225 Yes. I don't recall the exact quote or who said it, but "A Dark Age isn't when we forget how to do things. It's when people no longer believe it was ever possible to do those things."

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)

-

It's weird how it scales down so well, too. If someone could travel back in time and tell people participating in the Harlem Rennaissance (heck, the 1990s) what their great great great great great great grandchildren* would be blaming their failures on, they'd probably laugh in your face.




* see what I did there?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 07:02 PM (VgKNm)

226 What's this crud about no movie tonight?

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 07:02 PM (aC6Sd)

227 What ever happen to Jim Messina?
Wasn't he that creepy looking guy who worked who worked for President Cock Curious?

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 07:03 PM (O5Q3r)

228 "You did it a favor with a swift, painless execution."

I'm thinking a cat already got it and left it there. Most times they are half-eaten though.

Posted by: zombie headless chipmunk at May 26, 2018 07:03 PM (UdKB7)

229 I signed up for ³He mining on the far side of the moon. Only three years. Seems like a good gig!
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 06:59 PM (fZuhk)
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Watch out for Space Nazis! Their secret base is on the far side.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:04 PM (qJtVm)

230 What ever happen to Jim Messina?
Wasn't he that creepy looking guy who worked who worked for President Cock Curious?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 07:03 PM (O5Q3r)

Ummmmm...hahaha....No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 07:05 PM (EoRCO)

231 222 OM, I think Anon Y. Mous' app busted your solution.
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 07:01 PM (sdi6R)


No, my solution has a variation that takes care of the underpromotion line


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 07:06 PM (ITfBP)

232 34 Home!!!
I am home.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2018 05:17 PM (MzU3W)

Welcome home, Diogenes.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 07:06 PM (0bRDi)

233 What did you bring us, Diogenes?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 07:07 PM (qJtVm)

234 nood movie.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 07:07 PM (ITfBP)

235 Welcome home, Diogenes.
Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 07:06 PM (0bRDi)


Tub sweet tub.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 07:08 PM (fZuhk)

236 The Civil War Sesquicentennial was 2 years ago. Enough with the long beards already.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 07:09 PM (ANIFC)

237 And, not that it matters, but I have never heard of Oscar Levant.

!

I thought you knew EVERYTHING !

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 07:09 PM (ojwL9)

238 1981 Texas , 113 straight days of over 110 degrees. Stay out of Texas,

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 07:09 PM (SOMFK)

239 "Watch out for Space Nazis! Their secret base is on the far side."

Not anymore. Funding was unexpectedly cut.

Posted by: Melakon at May 26, 2018 07:09 PM (UdKB7)

240 Here's poor substitute for a movie thread:

Wonder Woman on Paradise Island.

It's one minute, and in Spanish, but that really doesn't matter....LOL...


https://youtu.be/7yzuDPLNbZg



Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 26, 2018 07:10 PM (8iiMU)

241 Just as a note for the MMO nerds (like me) out there. We have two World of Warcraft guilds - Alliance on Rexxar and Horde on Hellscream. Polliwogette and I are on most weekends and a few times on weekday evenings. Since the new expansion is coming out in August, we have high level characters that can help get you leveled up (plus we have lower leveled toons we are playing as well.)

Alliance Guild is "Val U Rite Pudding" on Rexxar.
Horde Guild is "ValU Rite Pudding" on Hellscream. (note the space & lack of same).

Most active on Hellscream, but we have many characters in different levels on both servers.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 26, 2018 07:11 PM (c1VpD)

242 "Watch out for Space Nazis! Their secret base is on the far side."

Not anymore. Funding was unexpectedly cut.

Posted by: Melakon at May 26, 2018 07:09 PM (UdKB7)


That's what they want you to think. Actually, Obama funded a Planetary Community Organizer Outreach Office there to deal with #MarsPrivilege!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (n9EOP)

243 228 "You did it a favor with a swift, painless execution."

A dog story I would never put in the pet thread - an old buddy of mine was driving late at night in a company truck, down near the King Ranch in Texas. He saw this rather large dog laying in the road, it clearly had been hit, he said to himself "that's very sad, it's a narrow two lane road without shoulders, I'll just straddle it so as not to make it messier. "

But just as he got there, the poor dog, not quite dead yet, lifted up its head ans looked at him just before he went over it. He heard a "thump" and it made him kind of sick, but he told himself at least he had put it out of its misery, since it was already badly hurt. Another 30 minutes and he noticed a burning smell from the engine compartment, so he pulled into a small town gas station to get some gas, worried something had been damaged. He popped the hood - and their, right next to the engine mount and the stuck between the engine and the car body, was the dog's head. Not the dog, just it's head, staring at him.

What he did next was the real kicker. He acted nonchalant, walked up to the attendant, paid for his gas, and asked "hey you got a broom?" The attendant loaned him one, and he just went out and used the pole to knock the dog's head out of it's position, onto the concrete below. Then he closed the hood, again without saying anything, took the broom back, and just got in his truck and drove off.

For years everyone who's heard him tell the tale has wondered what the hell the next person to pull into that gas station thought. All my buddy would say was "I don't know, I just know I ain't ever goin' back there."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (V2Yro)

244 Yes. I don't recall the exact quote or who said it, but "A Dark Age isn't when we forget how to do things. It's when people no longer believe it was ever possible to do those things."

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)


Sounds cute but I'm going to have to vote against this sentiment. In the real Dark Ages, Europeans saw the ruins of great works all around them. They knew that doing all these things was possible. They couldn't do them but they knew that people not long before, in that exact place, had done them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (RPXrN)

245 They couldn't do them but they knew that people not long before, in that exact place, had done them.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2018 07:12 PM (RPXrN)

But they thought it was aliens.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 07:34 PM (0bRDi)

246 No, my solution has a variation that takes care of the underpromotion line


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 07:06 PM (ITfBP)

++++

Ah, didn't read far enough to get to that. But, my app takes a different route on that one too. Not sure if it is a winner, but I'm not seeing the solution.

Your line:
8.Ke5 Nc3
9.Nb4+ Kb3

My app:
8.Ke5 Kb3

With that move, the check no longer works.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (pvjTE)

247 Tom Servo, we got 1/4 inch of rain yesterday.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 07:47 PM (zLDYs)

248 230 What ever happen to Jim Messina?
Wasn't he that creepy looking guy who worked who worked for President Cock Curious?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 07:03 PM (O5Q3r)

Gonna have to be more specific

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 26, 2018 07:50 PM (orE2c)

249 Bertrand Russell?

Posted by: LochLomondFarms at May 26, 2018 08:19 PM (GfqQF)

250 Thanks for all the great Mac chess tips everyone!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2018 08:40 PM (eMKNe)

251 I hope Anon Y. Mous is checking back periodically.

My app:
8.Ke5 Kb3
With that move, the check no longer works.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 07:38 PM (pvjTE)


Can your app win as Black from that position? Because the position is similar to mine, i.e. the White knight is covering b4 and will simply capture the pawn and secure the draw if it moves there. I don't see a clear line for Black to dislodge the knight from d5. The White king can always chase the Black knight away from attacking. So it's a draw. Unless your app can come up with a line.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 09:15 PM (ITfBP)

252 I'll get back to it to check. I like to figure things out first and then try what I think is a solution against the app. I know if I forgot something, it will get me. When I don't figure it out, then it's your solution I try against the app. Everything I tries against it from the point it deviated from your solution failed, but I haven't tried to turn it around and see how it deals with its own line. I put it away for now, but I'll get back to it later.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2018 09:23 PM (pvjTE)

253 OK.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 26, 2018 11:30 PM (ITfBP)

254 On Problem #2, why not just underpromote g1=N and use material to advance b7?

Posted by: Lou at May 27, 2018 01:03 AM (MQiMX)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

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Welcome to the almost world famous AoS Pet Thread. Take a break from your weekend activities and enjoy the world of pets.

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A Little of This. A Little of That.

As a boy who lived in a rural setting I was use to being chased by dogs on my bike. Never chased by one of these. Horses on the loose.

While we are on the biking kick. Any of you cyclists have an issue with a moose?

Animal rights? Well explain that to the rabbit.


Is life better with a dog? You decide. Be nice.


A cute little Plumber's Helper. h/t redc1c4


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Meet The PetMorons


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You have posted pictures of my Belgian Malinois, Keeper, and my German Shepherd, Flynn, before. We lost Keeper last year at a little over 13 years old. It was and has been devastating for me. What I didn't realize was how it would affect Flynn. After he was gone, Flynn would not go into the spare bedroom where Keeper slept every night. I tried taking her the dog park where we spent so much time. She would make it through the gate and then just shut down. I could not get her to go any further into the park and she completely ignored any dogs that tried to interact with her. She just sat there facing the gate and wanting to leave. It was heartbreaking. On the anniversary of Keeper's death, I tried again. I took the day off of work and when we got to the park she actually walked in and down to the lake. I got the biggest stick I could find and threw it over and over into the lake for her to chase. We now go every week and she's very excited to get there. The last year has been a difficult transition but Flynn and I are adjusting. Keeper was the very heart of me. He was my protector, my running buddy, and the love of my life. Rest in peace, Baby Boy. The first picture is both of the dogs in better times. The second picture is Keeper's last trip to the beach. The third is a recent pic of Flynn at the dog park.

If this is too long or there are too many pics I understand if it can't make the pet thread.

Thanks, Susie

Your welcome Susie. So, will a new puppeh help? Just an idea.

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Hello! Long time lurker, never poster, SK here. These are my two beauties, Fleury (the small grey one) and Beam. They are polar opposites! Fleury is a sweet, tiny kitty, weighing around 5.5 lbs. We got her in Canada, and named her for the hockey goalie, Marc Andre Fleury. Beam is a brute who loves only his mom! He weighs in at around 14.5 lbs. He hails from Kentucky and is named for Jim Beam, Kentucky whiskey! They are my pride and joy. Thanks for the Pet thread - I look forward to it all week!

Sarah

Good thing you didn't name that little one Gump Worsley. A nice pair of pets who look like they have the world by the tail. Thanks for thinking of us and sending in this photo.

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This is my old cat Jack, back when he was young. I'm having him put down tomorrow. He started losing the use of his back legs and now he's losing use of the front ones. He's had a good fifteen years but now it's time. Out of the many cats I've owned, he is the best.

“Throw out the radio and take the fiddle down from the wall.”
— Andrew Nelson Lytle, Tennessee, 1930

Teri

So sorry to hear about your loss Teri. The time flies by with a pet.

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Ol' Busted Leg, Audrey Claire, part German Shepherd, part pit bull, and I had been working on staying the hell out of the road for nigh on two months, but it obviously hadn't taken yet. As I was doing things in the back of the house, she slipped off unnoticed. I heard the screech of tires then a yelp and I instantly knew what happened. When I'd gotten around to the front of the house, the gal who hit her had stopped and was frantically searching around and under car for my pup. I saw Audrey in the drainage ditch sitting up in the tall grass as though nothing had happened. I was relieved - until I saw her leg, mangled and bloody. I fully expected amputation. And I was pissed, both at her for running into the street and myself for not keeping better watch. The gal asked if the dog was okay.

"No. You broke her leg."

"I didn't do it!"

I was stunned, "Well, it sure as hell didn't break spontaneously!" My anger turned from myself and the dog toward the woman. I let her have it with both barrels, calling her the most awful names you can imagine.

I immediately put Audrey in the Jeep and took her to the Vet emergency room. X-rays showed the break was at the growth plate in her ankle, a pretty good place if you simply must have a broken leg. I calmed down and upon reflection, I realized the woman meant it wasn't her fault, not that she didn't do it - simply a poor choice of words at the wrong time. Haven't seen her since.

I've had problems keeping her out of the stream and from rough-housing with Eleanor, her 'sister'. I've had to take her in to have the split changed twice. The first time she dove headlong into the stream and got the splint completely saturated with water. The second time she ran/jumped right the hell out of it! What a true 'Ron!

Anyway, Ol' Busted Leg is doing fine. -Howard

Quite the adventure there. On a serious note did you have pet insurance or did you take a 2nd mortgage out? Thanks for the submission.

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So, here's the latest on our feral cat Assner - who, by the way, was not named for actor Ed Asner. The origin of the cat's name is a silly little story.

Anyway, Assner went in this past Tuesday for her spay procedure and is now recovering before we release her back outside. Sadly, that first litter she had didn't survive. My husband and I searched around the property (with a few tick travelers....rural livin'!) and never found anything, not even remains. There are coyotes around here and relatively close to the house, so they may have fallen victim to a pack, we just don't know.

The neighbor's male barn cat kept calling on Assner, and funnily enough was prowling our yard they day Assner was up at the clinic. I remarked that he (I named him Gomer) was going to be disappointed when Assner recuperated.

As of now, though, I'm keeping Assner comfortable, warm, and fed while she heals up, and in a few days we'll set her free. The picture is pre-surgery, when she was on our deck "talking" to Boots and Smokey. - Victoria


Good luck on her recovery. And good luck keeping the coyotes away. Thanks for the submission.

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What a group of loved and pampered PetMorons. Thank you for sharing!

Do you have a pet photo you would like to share? Or do you have a tip, story or video related to pets/animals? You can reach us here at: petmorons at gmail dot com

You folks and critters have a great week!!!

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1 Some gave all

Posted by: BigZesty at May 26, 2018 02:52 PM (IyKLO)

2 st?

Posted by: Norman at May 26, 2018 02:52 PM (gLp8g)

3 https://tinyurl.com/y76z729z

Canine officer's son. Try not to tear up a bit. I dare ya.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 02:56 PM (NXsWM)

4 The moose thing is fairly common here this time of year. Lots of mama moose protecting their little ones. Lots of hungry bears wandering around looking to eat one, so everyone is a bit on edge.

This idiot came too close, that's all. It's not like some of the bike paths here--he could see her if he looked. The bike path out by Pt. Woronzof is woods all the way, and I've come a bit close to a moose out there without seeing her right away. Some ladies got stomped out there last spring. Maybe a good place to wait until summer to bike.

That is a cool stretch of road where it passes a huge flag on a flagpole that marks the edge of JBER (Joint Base Elmendorf Ft. Richardson). The Fish and Game guys monitored her and she finally took her baby through the moose fence gates onto base, and now the bike path is open again.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM (NXsWM)

5 I'd like to ask you all for prayers. My son's lab Gunner ate rat poison this morning. It took us 2.5 hours to find a vet who would treat an emergency on this holiday weekend. They did everything they could do but things aren't looking good right now. He is the best dog ever. Thank you in advance.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM (iXmy8)

6 Teri - hugs. It is such a difficult thing to say goodbye.

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2018 03:01 PM (PEJUg)

7 >>>Animal rights? Well explain that to the rabbit.

Huh huh huh huh. I need to get a twained eagle.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at May 26, 2018 03:01 PM (/qEW2)

8 @5, Muad'dib! That is awful. I will pray for a miracle..

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2018 03:02 PM (PEJUg)

9 I did have Jack put down on Thursday, a week later than when I sent out the picture. I gave him another week because it seemed like he felt better. Then he couldn't raise his head and seemed to be having some problems breathing. We had the vet check him out and he agreed it was time. He went quickly. I've never seen anything progress like this. In a month's time, he went from having some problems with his back legs to being unable to get up or turn over.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 03:03 PM (Lqy/e)

10 What is it about a bike that makes some people believe they are invincible?

Note: the three quarter ton animal has right of way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2018 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

11 And the SJW's haven't torn it down yet over the dog named "Nig"?

They will.

Posted by: The Wolf at May 26, 2018 03:05 PM (pxOl8)

12 The boy and I biked to the Campbell Creek Estuary Park yesterday--about 3.5 miles. So begins the year of evil bike butt. We watched sandhill cranes, a whole mess of ducks, a couple of eagles, and a really big hawk who thought we might be lunch, although he figured it out eventually. Anchorage is a different sort of city (in more than one way) in that you can be in the city but you might as well be in the boonies in some places.

Today we take the I-didn't-dogs to University Lake to chase ducks and run around in the woods and get nice and filthy. A dirty dog is a happy dog.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 03:05 PM (NXsWM)

13 Rat poison is awful stuff Prayers for Gunnar. I have a friend that lost her husband. A week later, both her dogs got into rat poison. She lost one over it. There are poisons that are less toxic to dogs and cats, but most folks use the cheap stuff.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 03:06 PM (Lqy/e)

14 In a month's time, he went from having some problems with his back legs to being unable to get up or turn over.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 03:03 PM (Lqy/e)

I am beginning to believe that God makes dogs' lives short so that we learn how to grieve. It's a very hard thing, indeed.

{{{hugs}}}

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 03:07 PM (NXsWM)

15 Note: the three quarter ton animal has right of way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2018 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

It's not legal to shoot a moose in Anchorage. More's the pity. Every time that one young bull wanders in to my yard, all I can think is "Get in my freezer!!!"

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 03:08 PM (NXsWM)

16 Great picture at the top. Very fitting.

Never been chased by a moose, but, I was riding through Edina, MN and startled a deer that was in the front yard of a house, Poor thing took off and that's when I found out deer hooves don't do well on concrete.

Another time, I was out riding a country road on my bicycle, came around a corner and a real live bull, horns and all, was standing along side the road. (there are a few cattle ranchers in the area where I currently live) Being as the bull was keeping an eye on me, I found it prudent to put the pedals down and get a move on.

Anyway, great pet pics! Thank you for posting.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 26, 2018 03:09 PM (WEBkv)

17 Nice pets Ya'll!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 03:10 PM (EoRCO)

18 So sad to lose such close friends. Joyful memories to all of you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (MIKMs)

19 This is the only place I can tell this story as you all will surely understand.

When I was dating my now wife, her pooch of many, many years passed away. As my dear lived in a condo and I owned my own home, we decided to bury Ginger in the backyard at my house.

We soon married and now Mrs. TP and her kids moved in with me and my kids. It turned out that my house was too small for us and all of our children so, we bought a bigger house about a mile down the road after about 9 months together in my original home.
My wife was troubled by leaving G in the old house's back yard but I prevailed upon her there was nothing to be done about it. I told her, *honestly, have you ever tried to get the smell of a dead body out of the trunk?* On the day the new owners of my old house were to take possession, I was out of town on business.

Shortly before the new owners took possession, my wife and her daughter dug up Ginger and placed her remains in a red wagon and walked the wagon and dog to the new house along with a few scoopfuls of dirt from where I had scattered Mrs TP #1's ashes.

They both now rest comfortably in our back yard.

There are many reasons I do not mess with my wife, but this is the biggest one.

She really loved that dog.


Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (9rIkM)

20 Tom Cat brought us a small possum last night.

He likes to share his kills.

Good kitty.

Posted by: ALH at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (cAj82)

21 >>>The Fish and Game guys monitored her and she finally took her baby through the moose fence gates onto base, and now the bike path is open again.

State/local governments are too deferential towards dangerous animals. Fortunately, that seems to be reversing. Wyoming says it's ok to hunt grizzlies. When these things start to become a hazard, let people hunt them until the populations come down sufficiently to remove the threat.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (/qEW2)

22 Four weeks ago yesterday I had to put our sweet kitty Sandy down. She would have been 17 in August.

It's been really, really hard. Haven't been without a kitty during our 32+ years of marriage.

Don't know if I can work up the courage to adopt another. They die too soon.Anyhow, RIP sweet, sweet tiny little girl.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (ptqGC)

23 newish neighbor's formerly indoor cat now working on being feral outdoor cat, but has taken to sleeping in a kitty nest pile of leaves by my door. has begun to allow brief petting.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Calhoon Kenobe at May 26, 2018 03:15 PM (VuR6/)

24 Shortly before the new owners took possession, my wife and her daughter
dug up Ginger and placed her remains in a red wagon and walked the wagon
and dog to the new house along with a few scoopfuls of dirt from where I
had scattered Mrs TP #1's ashes. They both now rest comfortably in our back yard. There are many reasons I do not mess with my wife, but this is the biggest one.
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Brains and heart. A great woman. I hope you know how very, very fortunate you are.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:17 PM (MIKMs)

25 has begun to allow brief petting. Posted by: Adobe Juan Calhoon Kenobe at May 26, 2018 03:15 PM (VuR6/)
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When it brings you mice or other vermin, you have arrived and been blessed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:19 PM (MIKMs)

26 The fox should've hung on longer. The eagle might have gotten fatigued carrying around the extra weight.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 03:22 PM (/qEW2)

27 One of my Siamese cats is resting in the kitchen with one eye open for any "food" action. The other one is sleeping between my wife's legs...Typical day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2018 03:23 PM (SjImc)

28 ... and on the seventh day the Lord rested, except for creating dogs, so Marines could have someone to look up to.

Posted by: Sendarius at May 26, 2018 03:23 PM (iIDgc)

29 Bears are bad here this year with the drought. I think it was last weekend, a 4 or 5 yo little girl was attacked in her yard. Thankfully, she survived.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 03:25 PM (LBSeG)

30 Why does Trump hate dogs ?

Posted by: Harry at May 26, 2018 03:26 PM (eOYN0)

31 I brought four cats with me when I moved here in 2009. (Actually six because I took in two that had belonged to a man at church who'd passed on). I buried three of those in the backyard myself plus two of my husband's cats. One of the rescues disappeared and the other died of kidney failure. The vet dealt with Louie's remains. I had Jack cremated and will bury them in the backyard near his buddies. I'm down to four cats. Maybe I'll be ready for a kitten after the move. I knew I couldn't move a paralyzed cat cross country and this had been his home for a long time.

When the two old dogs died, not long after my husband, I scattered their ashes off the High Bridge. I'd scattered my husband's ashes there.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 03:26 PM (Lqy/e)

32
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM (NXsWM)






One of my fondest memories of being stationed at Richardson back in the 80s was seeing a brand new 2LT (West Pointer) being chased through the woods by an angry momma moose.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 03:28 PM (XWkhW)

33 Went to our local FFL yesterday to pick up my husband's new toy. Guy has 2 cats, one is a bold 3 legged guy. The other one is super skittish, doesn't like strangers. So ...I had both cats all over me the whole time???? The guy and his wife couldn't believe the shy cat took to me like that. They said you never see her when a stranger is over. I've never had a cat before but they sure seem to like me for some reason....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 03:28 PM (kufk0)

34 I know I have talked about this before, but 3yo grandson has decided he is now a cat. He has played dog for quite a while, but now he is hissing and scratching. Cat is a growler, and has terrified him for about a year, does this mean he is getting over his fear? I don't know what to do. 1yo pets cat and brings him toys until he walks away.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:28 PM (MIKMs)

35 I like to tell people that old dogs die to give room in our lives for puppies. I guess, if you want a longer lived pet, you get a parrot. The damn things live forever.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 03:28 PM (Lqy/e)

36 Live camera of osprey nest on the island where I live:

https://tinyurl.com/y872d8xt

The chick is yuge now, exercising its wings, and learning to feed itself. The little bastard murdered its one sibling when they were small (they hatched a few days apart, and the older one wouldn't let the younger one eat and pecked it viciously) while the parents watched. The one unfertilized egg is still in the nest.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 03:30 PM (ptqGC)

37
I told her, *honestly, have you ever tried to get the smell of a dead body out of the trunk?*






*blink*

*blink*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 03:32 PM (XWkhW)

38 Why does Trump hate dogs ?
Posted by: Harry at May 26, 2018 03:26 PM (eOYN0)

You shouldn't have pissed on his leg, harry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2018 03:33 PM (WFV7d)

39 They said you never see her when a stranger is over. I've never had a
cat before but they sure seem to like me for some reason....
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You don't know about the invisible cat signs, glowing in neon, with 'sucker' all over your face.

Cat people tell me that cats like people who don't like cats because nothing is expected of the cat.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:34 PM (MIKMs)

40 39, that must be why my friend's cats always twist between my legs and jump on my lap.

I had a horrible experience with a cat as a child.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 03:37 PM (LBSeG)

41 Another great pet thread.

Kevin Costner has a new series coming out about a horse ranch in Montana. Yellowstone.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 03:37 PM (PW2Rp)

42 State/local governments are too deferential towards dangerous animals. Fortunately, that seems to be reversing. Wyoming says it's ok to hunt grizzlies. When these things start to become a hazard, let people hunt them until the populations come down sufficiently to remove the threat.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (/qEW2)

Um, that's not the point, not up here. Mama moose are allowed to defend their babies. I have no issue with that, the stupidity of the humans in this story notwithstanding.

If you are proposing that we have folks shooting moose in the Anchorage bowl, then apparently you think we don't already have enough Samoan gang-bangers, tweakers and other assorted asshats shooting guns here.

We live in the Last Frontier. We don't shoot moose in the city. We don't shoot the bears, either.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 03:38 PM (NXsWM)

43 Much as I love my kittehs, I doubt they would be much use in a firefight.

Doggehs are truly a gift from God.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 03:41 PM (Mkuv2)

44 This weekend we should thank the to us name less army work dogs who also give their lives

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 03:42 PM (aC6Sd)

45 Doggehs are truly a gift from God.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast


I am convinced that when we Fell, God had the plan for our redemption, but knew we'd need help making it that long.

So God took some of the wolves and helped us make friends of them.

You'll never convince me otherwise.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 03:43 PM (lLeln)

46 Cat people tell me that cats like people who don't like cats because nothing is expected of the cat.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:34 PM (MIKMs)


I've heard it was body language/demeanor. Many humans tend to be gregarious, touchy feely, making vocal noises and eye contact. They think this is somehow inviting and appealing, but it makes cats skittish. Someone who doesn't like cats is more likely to avoid eye contact, or any sudden movements and behave demurely in general. Cats find this appealing, which is why they seek such people out.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 03:43 PM (/qEW2)

47 Right on, Brother Cavil.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 03:44 PM (Mkuv2)

48 Muad'dib at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM
A pray for the dog and let us know please.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 03:44 PM (aC6Sd)

49 I notice Poncho's name on the monument, but not Lefty.

He probably split for O-HI-O

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 03:52 PM (mvenn)

50 I've found Scottish Folds to be very skittish. Took a long time for Simon Sampson to come over for pets and I raised him from a kitten.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 03:53 PM (Lqy/e)

51 Back in 2003 I needed to buy my mom a new dog to keep her company. She'd had cockers, and I settled on a small version - cavalier king charles spaniel. Back then they were quite hard to find, and I found a breeder, and got on the wait list - hoping for something for my Mom's birthday.
He called and said he had 2 siblings, girls (don't use the "b" word) and he didn't want to separate them. They were spoken for, but if one went to my mom, and we kept one, he'd let them go. My wife was adamant that we wouldn't have a dog in our new home. But, I talked her into it. When I brought the pups to her in the office, after an hour or so I said, ok, which one goes to mom? She said, "you know - I don't see hers here".
I did get her another from the same breeder a few weeks later.
The girls were inseparable, complete opposites but yin and yang. One a clown, the other serious. The clown was the alpha, but let the other one think she was top pooch.
Sadly, Dolly got stomach cancer at 9. I drover her from the south bay area of SF to sacramento twice a week for treatment. This was an all day thing, at least 8 hours. For a while she was in remission, but it came back and we lost her. I was devastated, she was my girl (they each picked their humans). Everybody said Daisy would get over it, dogs only remember for a couple of weeks.
Not true. She was miserable for months. She was perky, enjoyed company and eating, but her playmate was gone. One day, a year and a half later, I was getting ready to walk her. Daisy was all excited, she loved her walks. It was really cold outside, so I went and grabbed a jacket in the downstairs closet - an Alfred E. Neuman denim jacket. I threw it on the sofa while fishing out the leash and pooty bags.
I turned around, and Daisy had buried herself in the jacket, and was asleep. I couldn't figure out what was going on and then it hit me. I used to carry Dolly around wearing that jacket when she was so very sick. Every night (several times) I'd carry her outside so she could relieve herself, or be sick.
I hadn't worn the jacket since. It still smelled of Dolly. I'm tearing up right now. I lost Daisy last August just short of 14. She started to have some serious health issues, and I did everything I could to keep her happy and comfortable. She passed on her own terms. It'll be hard to get another dog, especially the same breed.

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2018 03:57 PM (RHEDC)

52 Dogs really do grieve. I've always felt that Wallace came down with pnuemonia because he couldn't deal with losing my husband and his Rott buddy, Tessie.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 04:00 PM (Lqy/e)

53 Beautiful non-human household unit assets! I'm sitting here letting Pepperdog clean up my plate which had a slice of coconut creme pie on it before I ate it. Mrs. E is on a trip. Heh.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 04:00 PM (zLDYs)

54 Marines are Marines, two legs or four. I teared up at that photo. Rest in peace, my canine fellows!

Posted by: empire1 at May 26, 2018 04:04 PM (m0x6k)

55 Wow, clutch. What a touching memory.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 04:07 PM (PW2Rp)

56 Let's watch as Jim tries to outrun this bear.

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at May 26, 2018 04:10 PM (5OO3x)

57 Kitties grieve, too. Our Sandy was sad for months after Spanky died. She walked around the house, and would howl with her normally tiny, quiet voice. Both girls loved to be on the screened porch, watching the birds and deer. Sandy simply refused to go back on the porch.

A week before we discovered her "chronic pancreatitis" was actually cancer, my husband and I sat on the porch watching the sunset, and enjoying a cocktail. She came out and sat on her favorite chair facing us. She even dozed off for a little while. A week later I had to put her down.


She was so sweet and affectionate. She would curl up on my husband's chest every night for a bit, then curl up in my arms. She had the sweetest habit of lying on her back, looking up at me, and placing a tiny paw gently on my check.


Now it's getting dusty in here again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 04:11 PM (ptqGC)

58 I notice Poncho's name on the monument, but not Lefty.

He probably split for O-HI-O
Posted by: Muldoon
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Nonetheless, we ought to save a few prayers for him.

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at May 26, 2018 04:12 PM (5OO3x)

59
between clutch and Jane I'm sitting here bawling.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 04:13 PM (LBSeG)

60 between clutch and Jane I'm sitting here bawling.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 04:13 PM (LBSeG)


*shoves one of my tissues thru USB port*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 04:15 PM (ptqGC)

61 So much good in such small packages...no wonder it hurts to lose them.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 04:16 PM (lLeln)

62 Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 03:12 PM (9rIkM)

You definitely have a keeper there (and you seem wise enough to know it)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 04:16 PM (n9EOP)

63 I notice Poncho's name on the monument, but not Lefty.

He probably split for O-HI-O
Posted by: Muldoon
---------------

Nonetheless, we ought to save a few prayers for him.

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at May 26, 2018 04:12 PM (5OO3x)

I just wonder where he got the dough to go?

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 04:17 PM (n9EOP)

64 That white cat reminds my of Scruffy, one of our departed cats. Scruffy showed up in 2001 at our old house so skinny and covered in ticks and fleas. We were leaving to go somewhere so I promised Mrs. E when we got back I would take her to the vet which I did. She moved to this house with us and died here about 8 years ago. I have before and after pictures somewhere and will send them in sometime.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 04:17 PM (zLDYs)

65 Thanks Jane. So sorry about your kittehs.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 04:19 PM (LBSeG)

66 Lefty is in my prayers, along with the rest of the canine (and human) Marine deceased.

And those still serving, of course, but today is for the deceased.

Posted by: empire1 at May 26, 2018 04:19 PM (m0x6k)

67 Pet Thread!!! Great group this week.

Came home from three days at the farm, and WeaselDog, WeaselCats v1 & v2, WeaselFish and WeaselWoman all seemed happy to see me.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 04:21 PM (MVjcR)

68 Thanks Jane. So sorry about your kittehs.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 04:19 PM (LBSeG)


Thanks. They both got me through son's leaving for boot camp at Parris Island, and my mother's sudden, unexpected death a week later. Spanky used to sleep in our son's room with him, and after he'd been gone for over a month, she stopped going up to his room and even began just picking at her food. When he returned from PI, little Sandy didn't recognize him and freaked out, but Spanky saw "her boy" and ran to him. He scooped her up and she was so happy she drooled on his shoulder! They both were my constant companions during his deployment to Shitcanistan. I called them my little angels in little cat suits.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 04:23 PM (ptqGC)

69 Weasel, did you get all the ticks off? WeaselFamily doesn't want to share.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 04:23 PM (PW2Rp)

70 I have a treasured picture of my paternal grandfather who I never knew, astride his war horse in France in WWI.

He fought in the battle of Argonne and was awarded the Croix de Guerre, which I also have.

My late dad said his father dearly loved animals of all kinds. They even had a little pet goat!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 04:25 PM (ptqGC)

71 69 Weasel, did you get all the ticks off? WeaselFamily doesn't want to share.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 04:23 PM (PW2Rp)
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Actually brought one home. I threw my overalls in the back of the truck yesterday to wash when I got home and when I took them out today immediately found a tick on my arm. I'm looking at sprayers now. War.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 04:26 PM (MVjcR)

72 The Navy SEAL Memorial, on Virginia Beach, has a tribute to combat dogs lost in action, as well as SEALs. They display gold stars to denote the service members KIA, and gold paw prints for the canines. Very classy and touching.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 26, 2018 04:28 PM (YFnq5)

73 Stormy died a couple of weeks ago; just about two weeks shy of her 18th birthday.

She was a Kerry Blue Terrier and the kids named her Stormy cuz she looked like a little storm cloud when a puppy.

Though she was probably the least intelligent dog I've owned, she was by far the sweetest. Just a delightful companion. And being a Kerry Blue was always up to romp and play and explore with the kiddos.

Her Greatest Day Evah were she able to talk was the day she trapped a YUUUUGE opossum in the back yard.

Her terrier instincts kicked into high drive and she stood toe to toe with the possum barking it's its face. When the possum would lunge at her with its big triangular mouth full of nightmare needle teeth, Stormy would dodge and grab the possum by the throat.

But, she had no idea what to do after that! She'd let go and start the whole process over again.

Stormy was so happy. Her tail was wagging a million miles an hour and she wore a great doggy smile.

Finally, I got around them and opened the gate so the possum could run away.

My Goodness, what a proud dog she was! She literally pranced around the house far the rest of the day. Sweet Mystery of Life, at last she'd found you.

In the last year, Stomy started showing signs of Dog Alzheimers. She lost her hearing for the most part and had arthritis.

About a week before she died, Stormy stopped eating and rarely drank water. She began hiding as dogs who are sick or dying will.

She was always scared of the vet, so we decided to let her die at home and long as she seemed okay.

Stormy got weaker and weaker, but one morning when I took her out...Suddenly, the puppy came out.

She gave clumsy play-bow and fell over but immediately righted herself and wanted to play chase.

It was the most rickety, slow, and hobbling version of Chase that you've ever seen in your life. I laughed as I chased (slow walk) her, cause it was so ridiculous, yet so sweet. And so like Stormy.

Two days later, I had to carry her from bed outside in the morning. She stood on her own and squatted to pee.

I got her to eat a little bit of cream cheese and chew a couple of ice chips. She walked out into the yard and lay on the grass in the sun.

I went to work and when I returned, she was dead.

I'm rather proud of Stormy and her last day. She always tried to be a good dog.

And when it was her time to go, she didn't hide but lay out under blue sky beneath God's good sun and on cool green grass. She gave up life in the midst of Life.

I'll miss Stormy.

She was a good dog.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 04:31 PM (9q7Dl)

74
We three - Mrs K, our PWD and me - are back at our summer place in Sussex County for five days. Moura, the 7 y/o PWD, has had opportunities to play with her brown Labrador pal from next door and hasbeen having a blast. Absence does make the hert grow fonder because two years ago Moura was pretty much a stick in the mud when it came to playing with this other dog.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 04:32 PM (NoLse)

75 puppehs and kittehs and horsies oh my!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 04:32 PM (hMwEB)

76 How do we know for sure that one of the dogs (listed on the memorial) was named "Yonnie"? Maybe its name was Laurel.

Posted by: Emmie at May 26, 2018 04:32 PM (/A+Cl)

77 I'll miss Stormy.



She was a good dog.



Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 04:31 PM (9q7Dl)


And now I'm bawling all over again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 04:33 PM (ptqGC)

78 Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 04:31 PM (9q7Dl)
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You were lucky to have had each other. Condolences.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

79 I'm at something of a loss as to why humans become so emotionally engaged with their pets.

It seems worth pointing out that it is not universal across cultures. That kind of suggests that there is something sociological about it, though I'm not sure what. It may be that in contemporary society we simply have the resources to indulge in those affections.

At any rate, I am certainly not immune, as I have two aging and pampered pets at my feet.

This morning I got up from the Weird News, and when I came back : https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydehcqwh

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 04:34 PM (y3sT9)

80 I love dogs. One thing I learned over the years was common sense and that fences/invisible fences/rope/chain can keep a dog from getting a broken leg or even eating rat poison.

Posted by: Noovuss at May 26, 2018 04:35 PM (LSOWG)

81 Mr Doggerel has a new job - baby bunny eviction officer.

Last week he proudly snuffled 3 baby bunnies from their nest.
They hopped away, but he was just interested in their hidey hole.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 04:35 PM (hMwEB)

82

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 04:31 PM (9q7Dl)

And now I'm bawling all over again.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2018 04:33 PM (ptqGC)


This.

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2018 04:36 PM (LBSeG)

83 I called them my little angels in little cat suits.

Jane, as much as it hurts when a kitteh leaves us, it just may be there is a kitteh out there for whom you may be an angel in a human suit. I've lost four kittehs down the years, and I'm no longer young, but I know the two I have now are very grateful to have a home with me.

As for the military meaning of Memorial Day, my dad died suddenly on Memorial Day weekend (heart attack) when I was a teenager. I still can't see an 82nd Airborne insignia without my eyes getting dusty, as you say. I like to think of my dad sitting on the steps of the Pearly Gates with St. Peter, and welcoming my kittehs as they make their way to the cat flap just behind St. Pete (who of course has some freshly caught fish just for them).

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 04:38 PM (3C9q2)

84
Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 04:31 PM (9q7Dl)


That's a beautiful story, NF. Our prior PWD, Buoy, overlapped our current one in the household by about four months; cancer would eventually claim her here in Sussex County. She LOVED to run. Before we brought them both down here together for the last time, I took them for a walk to our neighborhood park. There, Buoy gave Moura a life lesson on how one dog chases another - I could not recall ever having seen her either so energized or so fast. Four days later and down here, we had to put Boo down. We had her cremated and buried her ashes in the garden bed outside the porch corner where she would sit and wait for the neighbors' brown Lab to appear so they could play.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 04:41 PM (NoLse)

85 Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 04:31 PM

Got kind of dusty in here ... thank you for sharing Stormy's story.

Posted by: Paolo at May 26, 2018 04:49 PM (DMUuz)

86 It has to do with their personalities. There are a lot of dogs and cats that aren't memorable. The ones that are characters are the ones that become family and that we share stories about.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 04:52 PM (Lqy/e)

87 Many years ago I talked some friends into giving me their German Shepard. They didn't abuse her but she never had anything more than food put down for her. I had her for several years and I knew her time was getting close. Kim had a real sinking spell about the time I had to be gone for a week to a horse sale. When I got home she walked over to me and I sat down so she could get in my lap where she peacefully passed.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 04:54 PM (PW2Rp)

88 I'm at something of a loss as to why humans become so emotionally engaged with their pets.

It seems worth pointing out that it is not universal across cultures. That kind of suggests that there is something sociological about it, though I'm not sure what. It may be that in contemporary society we simply have the resources to indulge in those affections.


It may not be completely universal, but there is a longer history of human/pet bonding than you might think. There is a recent book by Jilly Cooper about animals in war, not just as beasts of burden but as companions for soldiers; plenty of anecdotes about Civil War soldiers on both sides keeping pets. I also read about the recent excavation of a Roman camp in northern England up near Hadrian's Wall where the archaeologists came across the grave of the centurion's pet cat. He had buried it with a few toys that he had made for it, so the cat was obviously more than just a mouser to keep the camp rat-free. So it isn't just a matter of contemporary people having more resources for pets, although that's obviously part of the picture.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 04:58 PM (3C9q2)

89 Seeing that Marine memorial brings to mind nothing as much as "Who's A Good Dog?".

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:02 PM (0bRDi)

90 And also "Semper Fido."

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:03 PM (0bRDi)

91 I feel incomplete if I miss the pet thread, but dayum does it ever seem to get dusty in here every Saturday afternoon!

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 04:58 PM (3C9q2)
FWIW, I think only civilized cultures have personal relationships with animal pets.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (n9EOP)

92 And also "Semper Fido."
Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:03 PM (0bRDi)

I love that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 05:12 PM (Mkuv2)

93 Check out my URL for my recent blog post on antioxidant supplements for your pooch or kitty.

Posted by: scrood at May 26, 2018 05:12 PM (JHywS)

94 FWIW, I think only civilized cultures have personal relationships with animal pets.

Oh, I certainly agree-- but I still find it interesting how many different civilized cultures have cultivated those relationships, and how many types of evidence of that keep turning up.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 05:13 PM (3C9q2)

95 Petey waited for me before he died too. He was a polydactyl and a real character. He had a stroke and started to go downhill. He was still getting around well, so I just made him comfortable. He liked to sit on a foot stool in the kitchen and talk to me.

Christmas morning, one year, I went into the kitchen and he was lying on the floor hy the fridge. I touched him and he let out that last breath and was gone. I will miss that memory when we leave here.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 05:14 PM (Lqy/e)

96 I feel incomplete if I miss the pet thread, but dayum does it ever seem to get dusty in here every Saturday afternoon!

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 04:58 PM (3C9q2)
FWIW, I think only civilized cultures have personal relationships with animal pets.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 05:05 PM (n9EOP)

I agree. the plains Indians kept dogs, but only as early warning devices, and carcass cleanup duty. They would become food without remorse, should the need arise.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 26, 2018 05:15 PM (Mkuv2)

97 3 https://tinyurl.com/y76z729z

Canine officer's son. Try not to tear up a bit. I dare ya.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 02:56 PM (NXsWM)

Unpossible not to tear up.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:18 PM (0bRDi)

98 Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM (iXmy

Fervent prayers for Gunner and your son and you.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:20 PM (0bRDi)

99 Unpossible not to tear up.

Yes-- lots of dust in here today.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 05:22 PM (3C9q2)

100 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the cartoon in last night's ONT.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 05:23 PM (sdi6R)

101 79 I'm at something of a loss as to why humans become so emotionally engaged with their pets.

It seems worth pointing out that it is not universal across cultures. That kind of suggests that there is something sociological about it, though I'm not sure what. It may be that in contemporary society we simply have the resources to indulge in those affections.

At any rate, I am certainly not immune, as I have two aging and pampered pets at my feet.

This morning I got up from the Weird News, and when I came back : https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydehcqwh

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2018 04:34 PM (y3sT9)

I very much believe that a society that does not treasure its dogs is not a society worth retaining.

Dogs have been humans natural companions for millennia. To dismiss that as something not worth having is to dismiss what it means to be human, to love, to live, to appreciates God's benevolent bounty.


I'm looking at you, Islam. You suck.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 05:24 PM (NXsWM)

102 I'm not crazy about calling yourself a "fur mom" or "fur dad". I don't have "fur kids". I have dogs and cats, different species. (I don't claim the parrots). I expect them to behave differently from people. I think we find it interesting when they interact with us. Jake, my springer, was not well socialized. I think he spent a lot of time by himself in the back yard. He's come a long way in three years. He's learning how to read faces and what words mean. Before, he wouldn't pick up any cues until you were really angry. The only problem now is that he wants to talk to us, all the time. If I can get him to stop barking on command, we'll be happy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 05:26 PM (Lqy/e)

103 I saw the cartoon last night and had problems even reading the thread.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 05:28 PM (Lqy/e)

104 I saw the cartoon last night and had problems even reading the thread.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 05:28 PM (Lqy/e)


Thanks for the tip, I didn't get to the ONT, but that was worth going back for, but it was not an easy cartoon to view!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 05:36 PM (n9EOP)

105
I'm not sure why I come here every week. It mostly is so sad.

Two of the boys were born the year of Katrina and have health issues.

My Dad passed four years ago next month, as well as my precious Gretchen. Dad was expected, Gretchen wasn't...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 26, 2018 05:44 PM (4DCSq)

106
I very much believe that a society that does not treasure its dogs is not a society worth retaining.

Dogs have been humans natural companions for millennia. To dismiss that as something not worth having is to dismiss what it means to be human, to love, to live, to appreciates God's benevolent bounty.


I'm looking at you, Islam. You suck.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2018 05:24 PM (NXsWM)



We lived with dogs in Muslim countries for over ten years. Varying degrees of acceptance, but it was in Jordan where our first chocolate lab was fed poisoned bread by locals. She survived, and by God's grace we had another 18 months with her. But it's hard to forgive someone who intrinsically believes dogs are evil. I think there is something fundamentally wrong with them.

Prayers up for you Muad'ib. I hope your pup makes it through.

Posted by: moki at May 26, 2018 05:44 PM (V+V48)

107 Susie, your Keeper was a keeper; what a great name.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:46 PM (0bRDi)

108 That picture at the head of the post shows the memorial to the US Marine war dogs who served and died in the battle for Guam in WWII. The is a very good book about that bit of history: "Always Faithful: a memoir of the Marine war dogs of WWII" by William W. Putney, 2001.

Putney was a veterinarian before he was called up to active duty. US Marine brass decided, logically enough, that being a vet he would be a good pick to take charge of a war dog unit. He wound up becoming the commander of the 3rd War Dog Platoon.

He gives a great account of how the dogs were trained (and how their handlers won large sums on bets with their Marine buddies who could not believe what these dogs could do). The story of how these dogs served in combat is amazing and fully justifies the title of the book.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at May 26, 2018 05:49 PM (iuRR5)

109 Semper Fido: I just looked up "Fido," and it is from Latin "fido," "I trust"; as fidelis is the Latin noun "trust." Latin pet thread lore!

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:51 PM (0bRDi)

110 I admit to some minor dog annoyance. Went in the kitchen and fixed Pepper's supper, stuck it in the microwave, and came back in here to catch 1 minute of FLA/Tex A n' M softball, smooth forgot to feed her. I realized she should be here jumping up and down to get on my lap. She was still in the kitchen doing her supper dance. What a good girl.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2018 05:55 PM (zLDYs)

111 ahem, fixing 109

fidelis (adjective): faithful, loyal, true, trustworthy
fidelitas (noun): faithfulness etc.
fido (verb): be faithful etc.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 05:56 PM (0bRDi)

112 Latin pet thread lore!

Semper felis, too!

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 06:00 PM (3C9q2)

113 112 Latin pet thread lore!

Semper felis, too!
Posted by: Basement Cat at May 26, 2018 06:00 PM (3C9q2)

Score!

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 06:11 PM (0bRDi)

114 Top picture of war doggies. Room. Room 'shun!

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 26, 2018 06:23 PM (5h9Yn)

115 Yes, it is sad to tell tales about our deceased pets. It's how we keep their memories alive.

I could tell you about our trip to visit the stepson last weekend. It's over two hours and we took all three dogs. It's an extended cab but it's hard for all three to get comfortable. They were good on the trip down and waited while we visited. (His girlfriend is pregnant and we didn't want to risk one of them jumping on her. She did visit with them a bit the one time we let them out for some water. )

We started home and Gary decided he had to ride home in my lap. He is a big springer, probably 80 pounds. We got him four months ago. He is seven and lived a spoiled life until they had a baby. He was jealous of the baby and they almost put him down. So we took him. It's been hard to get him worked into the pack and he barks at too many things when riding in the truck. He slept all the way home with his head in my lap and his body on the floor. I'm surprised that his legs weren't all cramped up. Most dogs just want to belong to somebody and they will try to make you happy if you are that person.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 26, 2018 06:29 PM (Lqy/e)

116 Kindest regards to everyone on the Pet Thread.
So sorry about the doggie that got in to rat poison. We are presently dog sitting, and the dog (being a dog) will sniff everything which is OK, but if he tries to eat anything, no dice, I pull him back on his leash. My wife does not do this and I scold her for that. She let the dog eat a used condom and thankfully, it passed right through, but dogs should not be allowed to eat anything they want to. Certain demons have even been known to poison meat for dogs to eat and leave it around.
Cats will be attracted to those who are aloof to them. They like aloof.
Loved the doggie memorial. Laters.

Posted by: navybrat at May 26, 2018 06:32 PM (w7KSn)

117 Spank me and call me a pet friend. Neighbors just left. Over the past few hours we actually talked about neighborhood pets as well as neighborhood kids. Lovely visit. We remember our pets with joy and gratitude.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 06:33 PM (MIKMs)

118 Just a reminder. if you suspect poisoning get as much milk down your pet as possible.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2018 06:43 PM (SOMFK)

119 108 "Always Faithful: a memoir of the Marine war dogs of WWII" by William W. Putney, 2001.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at May 26, 2018 05:49 PM (iuRR5)

That sounds wonderful. Thank you.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 06:56 PM (0bRDi)

120 Susi and Teri, my total sympathies to you. When I lost my beloved kitty two years ago....man, it was tough. Still is. That little guy (he's the one who moved in with me and wouldn't leave) was almost like a dog he was so devoted. Love is always worth the loss, I guess, but it's so tough.

And congrats to all of you for your beautiful doggehs and kittehs. Makes me think there's room in my heart for one more.

Posted by: PJ at May 26, 2018 07:44 PM (qlTN9)

121 I gotta say, Howard, be reasonable. She stopped, she got out, she showed concern for the dog, and then tried to engage you. It's your dog, not hers, and you knew the risk. But you were "working on it" for weeks or months? I'd say she comes out looking better than you did.

Posted by: Born Free at May 26, 2018 09:32 PM (ooJUc)

Saturday Gardening Thread: Memorial Day Weekend 2018 [KT]

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I've been saving the glamorous photo above for a while now. This is the note that came with it. Hope I timed the photo about right:

This may be a bit early as we're still being told to expect what they laughingly call a 'wintry mix' of rain, sleet, ice and/or snow for tomorrow. Damned good thing we have 'global warming,' or we'd really be up a creek. Anyhow: Once this is done with and the WX starts gettin' more - umm - 'seasonal,' these will make their appearance and put their fragrance in the air. When that happens, I shall break out a mint julep and put 'When It's Sleepy Time Down South' on the wind-up phonygraph ... enjoy.
Dr No

Hello, friends. While some of us are facing a really big storm, we have some garden topics that might remind us that it is still Memorial Day Weekend. Plus something fun for the kids.

Our Heritage:

I love this photo from Illiniwek:

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This is one from the old house looking onto the garden as it is disced. One note says 1938, but another note says the well went in in 1941. The chicken house and wash house were in by 1920, I think. The peonies are in bloom. Concord grapes, and early thirties ... Model T?

Peonies remind me of Memorial Day. And Illiniwek still has some growing. They live a LONG time. These are behind some lilies in bud and the camera focus is on the lilies. This scene reminds me of a memorial park. Maybe it's just because it's this weekend:

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Here's a photo I took during my father-in-law's services at the Tahoma National Cemetery.

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And here is a photo of Illiniwek's everbearing lilacs that just bloomed. "Their best display ever". Some years, growing up, we had lilacs on Memorial Day. I remember being excited when I first heard of re-blooming lilac varieties. Looks like Illiniwek is doing well with his lilac. The re-bloomers may not re-bloom as enthusiastically in the Midwest as is some other places.

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Forget-me-nots and Fairy Gardens

I thought it would be fun to include a close-up of a tiny flower from lurker NadineCharmichael's Fairy Garden. Forget-me-nots just happen to fit in with a Memorial Day Weekend theme. It is often used as a symbol of remembrance.

I never considered myself a gardener until I had kids and thought a veg garden would be fun for them. Found out I liked tending it more than the kids! My new hobby has expanded to include 4 gardens and 2 large containers, and now my husband isn't sure if my fabric-hoarding habit is better or worse than my gardening habit. . .

These are forget-me-nots. I know anything else about them. They're tiny but probably one of my favorite flowers. Simple and sweet and breath-takingly beautiful ("Just like you!" - my husband on the couch.) These are the background in my kid's fairy garden. They seem to thrive on partial shade, average water, clay soil, earthworm castings, and marginal neglect.

So, do you think this is what a fairy's eye view would be?

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The Official State Flower of Alaska is Myosotis alpestris, the Alpine Forget-me-not. But they grow garden Forget-me-nots there, too. There are other attractive species, but only two real Forget-me-nots are commonly seen in gardens in the Lower 48. The first is M. scorpoides, True Forget-me-nots, Water Forget-me-not or Scorpion Grass. It is a true perennial that can become somewhat invasive in wet areas. The "scorpion" reference has to do with the way the flowers curve. This one starts with pink buds and the flowers then turn blue. See the little scorpion tail?

The other is M. sylvatica, the Wood Forget-me-not. It is grown as an annual or biennial and is available in blue, pink and white cultivars. It tends to self-sow where it is happy.

It took a long time for the Forget-me-not to become the Official State Flower of Alaska. Along the way, proposals were accompanied by the earnest rhetoric typical of new states joining the union. And the typical over-earnest poetry. Usually kind of sweet in a way. Here are the last 4 linwa of Esther Birdsall Darling's poem which accompanied a 1917 proposal:


So although they say we're living

In the land that God forgot,

We'll recall Alaska to them

With our blue Forget-me-not.

The background color of the State Flag of Alaska was chosen by its designer, a 13 year old Aleut boy who later became a diesel mechanic, to represent the sky and the Forget-me-not flower.

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If you visit the mountains of Alaska or Western Canada in summer, you might also see the Splendid Alpine Forget-me-not, Eritrichium splendens, a tiny plant with beautiful flowers that look a lot like garden forget-me-nots even though it is in a different plant genus.

The Giant Forget-me-not is also in another genus, a single species from New Zealand that will grow near the ocean, in salt spray.

I think the flowers of the Giant Forget-me-not look a lot like those of the Chinese Forget-me-not, another plant you can grow in your garden. It may take more sun than true forget-me-nots. Best sown where they are to bloom. Note that the flowers don't have the yellow central ring or white bee guides of the real Forget-me-nots in Nadine's garden. It blooms in late summer in most places, earlier if started indoors or in the fall. It prefers cool summers, not too humid.

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This plant has flowers a little larger than the flowers of real Forget-me-nots, is grown as an annual or biennial, and has a native perennial cousin in the mountains of Oregon and California. There is also a wild relative in the Eastern USA and Canada, Blue Houndstongue or Wild Comfrey (often seen after fires). And a troublesome weed imported from Europe.


Cynoglossum Officinale
Common Hound's Tongue or Gypsy Flower, has pinkish or purplish flowers and smells like "rats and mice". Its burrs stick to the wool of sheep, and it can lead to photosensitivity in livestock if they eat the plants. As you may have guessed from the name, this plant was once used to treat a variety of illnesses. And:

By the end of the 1830s, doctors in England were using houndstooth as an antiaphrodisiac to combat venereal excesses.

In 1891, the U.S. state of Michigan identified hounds tooth, along with flea-bane, rag weed, burdock, cockle-bur, and stickseed, as some of the worst weeds in the state

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You don't want this one.

NOTE: They're not as bad as the one above, but the seeds of both Chinese Forget-me-nots and regular Forget-me-nots can stick to your clothes and to pets. They can be kind of a pain to remove. You might want to deadhead plants near paths, especially where dogs walk, or even remove the plants after they flower. But they are lovely. Henry David Thoreau wrote that:

the mouse-ear forget-me-not, Myosotis laxa, has now extended its racemes very much, and hangs over the edge of the brook. It is one of the most interesting minute flowers. It is the more beautiful for being small and unpretending; even flowers must be modest.

I like big flowers, but I've always had a soft spot for dinky flowers. Forget-me-nots, violets, Baby Blue Eyes, little Pinks, Viscaria, etc. Maybe we will need to revisit Fairy Gardens again in the future. In the meantime, Mike Hammer included a link to an ever-so-cute fungus in last week's comments. Did you see it?

Have to admit that this is the first time I've thought of "Fairy Gardens" and "Mike Hammer" at the same time.

By the way, this is NadineCharmichael's Fairy Garden. Some kids know they are loved.

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It's in a shady spot with poor soil, so the plants have to be survivors.

The painted rocks are courtesy of my mother, who has quite a flair for that sort of thing, and my kids love moving them all about the yard. The stone angel picture was a wedding gift from long ago. What does one do with a 20lb stone-cast and bronze angel plate? Hide it away for 10 years and then put it in the fairy garden!

Salvias and Hummingbirds

NadineCarmichael's Fairy Garden features a Salvia which I think is S. coccinea, a native to the Southeast.

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My 1988 edition of the Sunset Western Garden Book lists 12 species of salvia. My 2007 edition lists more than 60 species and cross-species hybrids, plus many named varieties. S. coccinea, one of the three most common salvias in nursery multi-packs around here today, was not listed in the 1988 edition. I am kind of partial to 'Coral Nymph'. Okay, its species name still says "red" but it's not exactly red.

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There are also white and lavender cultivars now. One writer described a white cultivar as smelling like a locker room. Might repel some insects. Who knows?

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Nadine also has a specimen Salvia that holds its own as a foliage plant.

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Her specimen salvia, called "Eucalytus Salvia" on the tag, may be related to Pineapple Sage. Do you love the fragrance of Pineapple Sage? Here's a recipe for Peach Jam with Pineapple Sage, no added pectin. And here's one for Blackberry and Pineapple Sage Soda

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Here's a kid-friendly site with lots of photos of hummers in Arizona and beyond.

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Broadbilled Hummingbird with Cherry Red Sage

Salvias and Hummingbirds seem made for each other. Especially certain species. Ten of them are listed at the bottom of the page. Most of them are rated for USDA Zones 8 and higher (not too cold hardy). Bonecrusher's recent mystery species (we think) makes the list.


The Salvia Study Group of Victoria
notes:

We soon learnt about S. guaranitica the hard way - that it has tubers and will not only walk but run if the soil around it's base is disturbed.

The only way we were going to grow it was in a bottomless pot where it wouldn't escape. If it was planted in a garden and began to walk, then it had to be dug out and destroyed - all little bits will grow. It's perfect for planting out large areas, but definitely not for a small garden.

Here's one that's perennial in zones 5 - 9. Marketed for the Midwest. Four feet tall. Looks like a good hummingbird plant to me.

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Salvia Splendens doesn't make that Top 10 list despite the fact that it is a fabulous bedding plant, here in Taiwan at an international garden show. Wild designs are possible. Puts out some color.

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Trees, Bees and Allergies

Gordon sent in an interesting observation recently:

One of those things you never notice since it happens overhead is that bees fertilize maple trees. They are not easy to see but yesterday there were many.

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Gordon has accidentally hit upon a long-standing controversy about maple pollination: Are maples pollinated by wind or insects? They certainly attract pollinators. But some maples let pollen fly far on the wind, indicating wind pollination. Some trees are bisexual and some produce flowers of only one sex.

Some maples are rated amore allergenic than others. The Box Elder seems to be the most allergenic of the Acer genus. You can look up individual species of trees you are considering planting, plus more information here.

Expecting trouble with allergies at a picnic this weekend? Any tips for those who are expecting some trouble?


Gardens of The Horde

Linda has written in with a request for tips. She would love to be able to grow some Hygrangeas, if possible. Or some other nice perennials.

Almost all of my yard is heavily shaded, with oak, pine, hickory, and magnolia trees predominant.

I have a few - very few - sunny spots.

What does grow well:


  • Dogwood - in several spots, copious flowering
  • Magnolia - only one tree - the one in a very sunny spot - flowers beautifully each spring
  • Azaleas - multiple bushes, thrive in sun or shade, produce stunning displays in multiple colors
  • Jonquils - return each year, sun/shade
  • Roses - in the partly shady areas

I'd like to plant more perennials (OK, I'm basically lazy). I love hydrangeas, but am dubious whether I can get them to establish in my partly shady yard.

I said it's partly shady, but, really, it's MOSTLY shady - and has a very moist soil. I get mushrooms popping up every time there's a halfway good rain.

I live in SC, near Charlotte. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Sounds like a long-term project. Any ideas for Linda?

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1 Garden Thread!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 12:48 PM (MVjcR)

2 Hi, weasel!

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 12:50 PM (BVQ+1)

3 Back from 3 days as tick bait down on the farm.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (MVjcR)

4 And how does your garden grow?

Posted by: Agro-Miklos at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (zCyNd)

5 Hi KT! Great job this week. Look at the flowers!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 12:52 PM (MVjcR)

6 Top Ten?

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 12:55 PM (vW8Mk)

7 NadineCarmichael has done a great job. I have never heard of a Eucalyptus Salvia. I wish growers would put the species or hybrid names on the tags. She says it smells citrus=y. The flowers, just starting to come out, look like Pineapple Sage.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 12:59 PM (BVQ+1)

8 Just popped in to say we just now got the tomato plants potted up along side a few purple petunias. Now we finish demolishing the old raised veggie beds. The soil is bad and full of weed seeds. We really don't need that much planting space anyway. Ever one have a safe and blessed Memorial day weekend.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 26, 2018 01:00 PM (myjNJ)

9 Weasel at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM
Ticks! Yuck. Any tick tips?

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:00 PM (BVQ+1)

10 Last night I dreamt that my garden was being destroyed by giant caterpillars. I wonder what it means.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:00 PM (vW8Mk)

11 madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 26, 2018 01:00 PM
Better to keep your garden to a controllable size, for soure.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:02 PM (BVQ+1)

12 One quick last thought.
Surfperch you may need a gun thread advice for those caterpillars. Alters all.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 26, 2018 01:02 PM (myjNJ)

13 I recall chancing upon a dreamy garden planted w/ forget me nots underneath a wisteria canopy. It was a misty day, a very light rain was falling, and I felt transported to a peaceful, ethereal world

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:02 PM (oxpQH)

14 9 Weasel at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM
Ticks! Yuck. Any tick tips?
Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:00 PM (BVQ+1)

I have tuck tips!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 26, 2018 01:02 PM (vW8Mk)

15 Yep. I'm apparently something of a tick magnate. Get it? Tick Magnate! HAHAHAHA! A little farm & garden humor. I crack myself up.
Anyhoo- I'm going to get a sprayer and turn the place into a super fund site. Not a fan of ticks.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 01:05 PM (MVjcR)

16 The three strawberry plants I grew last year have sent runners. One of them popped up six feet away. I guess that means they survived the dreadful winter.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:06 PM (oxpQH)

17 If you get a chance, click on the link to the Taiwan Flower Show. Just before the brightest red Salvia photo.

There are reasons they uses Salvia Splendens for commercial bedding.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:06 PM (BVQ+1)

18 I better go stick those sunflower seeds in the ground while the moon is still waxing.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:07 PM (oxpQH)

19 That photo is lovely. Blooming right now in our (Connecticut) gardens: bleeding hearts, creeping phlox, flowering ferns, Solomon's seal, euphorbia, columbines, snow drops, trillium, one of our early day lilies (yellow), irises, lady's mantle, azaleas, rhodies, lilacs, beauty bushes and (very soon) peonies. The roses and summer perennials are just getting started.

Posted by: Caliban at May 26, 2018 01:07 PM (QE8X6)

20 Is it too late in the year to plant beans?

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:08 PM (vW8Mk)

21 kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:02 PM

How nice that the remembrance stayed with you.
And nice about the strawberries, too.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:09 PM (BVQ+1)

22 The stone angel picture is perfect for a fairy garden.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:10 PM (BVQ+1)

23 15 Yep. I'm apparently something of a tick magnate. Get it? Tick Magnate! HAHAHAHA! A little farm & garden humor. I crack myself up.
Anyhoo- I'm going to get a sprayer and turn the place into a super fund site. Not a fan of ticks.
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 01:05 PM (MVjcR)

You fool! The more you spray, the more resistance we'll pick up to the spray!

Posted by: The Invincible Ticks at May 26, 2018 01:11 PM (vW8Mk)

24 Good news/ bad news for my garden.
Bad news first, all 4 of my Honey Dew plants died and some insect is eating my cucumber leaves. My mom suggested sprinkling cinnamon on the leaves any one else second or have another suggestion?
Good news is tomatos and peppers are fine, planted 9 green and yellow bean plants from seeds. Also the potatoes and a onion rescued from compost seemingly are growing.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 01:11 PM (aC6Sd)

25 Is it too late in the year to plant beans?
Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:08 PM (vW8Mk)



Depends. Are they magic beans?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 26, 2018 01:11 PM (CPfoe)

26 Ain't there some kinda bird that eats ticks ?

Guinea hen mebbe ?

If so, mebbe intro some to Weasel Acres ?

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 01:12 PM (ojwL9)

27 KT - it was at Longwood , in one of their Italian gardens. Made me a real fan of myosotis and people with that eye color

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:13 PM (oxpQH)

28 Is it too late in the year to plant beans?

Nope. But don't dawdle.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 01:13 PM (ojwL9)

29 20 green or wax like I plant last year gave me beans well through to September.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 01:13 PM (aC6Sd)

30 25 Is it too late in the year to plant beans?
Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:08 PM (vW8Mk)


Depends. Are they magic beans?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 26, 2018 01:11 PM (CPfoe)

They're Black Turtle Beans, I think.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:14 PM (vW8Mk)

31 Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:08 PM
Unless you are in a really hot-summer area, you might try one of the newer bush bean varieties marketed as heat tolerant.

You can also plant lima beans and edamame soy beans after the weather warms up.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:15 PM (BVQ+1)

32 Wait - Skip rescued an onion from compost?

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:15 PM (oxpQH)

33 Mantilja poppies are another thing you do NOT want to plant, unless you don't mind them popping up any/everywhere in your garden.

and they are a stone bitch to eradicate too: neither kind of Round Up seems to faze them, even when sprayed on freshly cut stalks.

ask me how i know...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2018 01:16 PM (79lT1)

34 Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:14 PM
You want to plant beans to serve shelled or dried? Or as green beans?

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:16 PM (BVQ+1)

35 Hey gardening horde!! We are putting in our tomatoes that I started from saved seeds. I'm anxious to see if they produce. I have squash, beans, carrots and blackberries that are doing okay in raised beds, but I must have dropped some seeds from the squash/melon family in a well tilled but in-raised bed part of the garden, because I now have free range plants of unknown origin going berserk. They are happy, and producing blossoms while the raised bed plants are barely past cotyledons. I am rethinking my garden planning for next year- no raised beds.


As far as ticks go, we had well water on our farm that was,,,sulfurous. But not a tick on us. Of course we weren't welcome in public either. Hubby also used sulfur tablets when he surveyed in Arkansas. It kept ticks, mosquitoes and wasps away.

Posted by: Moki at May 26, 2018 01:16 PM (V+V48)

36 I wanted an eco-lawn but HOA will not allow it. So I had to cave and get a lawn treatment service.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:18 PM (oxpQH)

37 we're not bothering with tomatoes again this year in The Valley. i don't think the weather is ever going to get hot, and, if it doesn't they don't grow for shit here.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2018 01:18 PM (79lT1)

38 31 Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:08 PM
Unless you are in a really hot-summer area, you might try one of the newer bush bean varieties marketed as heat tolerant.

You can also plant lima beans and edamame soy beans after the weather warms up.
Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:15 PM (BVQ+1)

Thanks for the advice, KT. I'll have to look around for some heat tolerant bush beans.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:19 PM (vW8Mk)

39 HOAs are un-American

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2018 01:19 PM (79lT1)

40 Skip at May 26, 2018 01:11 PM
Do you have cucumber beetles? Tough to control.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:19 PM (BVQ+1)

41 Wait - Skip rescued an onion from compost?

And he gave it to Palpy to put on his belt.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 01:20 PM (ojwL9)

42 Eritrichiums are one of the holy grails to rock/alpine gardeners. Very, very difficult to grow and flower. E. nanum and similar species are found at high elevations in the Rockies. https://nargs.org/photo/eritrichium-nanum-4

Posted by: Hal Dall at May 26, 2018 01:22 PM (5+rMY)

43 Anybody got some sahdy garden tips for Linda? Favorite perennials?

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM (BVQ+1)

44 I better go stick those sunflower seeds in the ground while the moon is still waxing.

Posted by: kallisto


I grew sunflowers one year; I watched a squirrel
Chew the head off of the biggest one and drag it away.

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM (ojwL9)

45 34 Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:14 PM
You want to plant beans to serve shelled or dried? Or as green beans?
Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:16 PM (BVQ+1)

I was planning on serving them dried.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM (vW8Mk)

46 Neat picture of the old ford by the garden. Probably a model T but mid 20s

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 26, 2018 01:25 PM (czkHE)

47 Hal Dall at May 26, 2018 01:22 PM
Do you know any alpind gardeners?

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:25 PM (BVQ+1)

48 Wow, quite a long post.

I believe that's a Model A, not T, in that great pic.

Posted by: mindful webworker - of the black thumb webworkers at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (XqXVp)

49 37 we're not bothering with tomatoes again this year in The Valley. i don't think the weather is ever going to get hot, and, if it doesn't they don't grow for shit here.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2018 01:18 PM (79lT1)

You might have luck with lettuce, cabbage and related plants if it doesn't warm up.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:29 PM (vW8Mk)

50 43 - ferns are great in shady gardens

44- tasty they are! I am planting them for the goldfinches, but will keep an eye out for squirrels

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:30 PM (oxpQH)

51 Lilacs don't do well in the south, but in their place we've got Crepe Myrtles. Although they're usually not thought of as large, I've got a couple that are quite old and which are probably about 30' tall - definitely tree sized. They start blooming about now, and will keep blooming at least through September.

btw, east texas today - 86 degrees and sunny, beautiful weekend. Woke last night to the sound of thunder, how far off I sat and wondered - but it never got very close.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2018 01:30 PM (V2Yro)

52 Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM
You need to plant a lot of beans for a significant harvest of dried beans. They say you can use Black Turtle as a snap green bean (it probably has a string and requires good ripening weather). It is also used as a fresh shelly bean, which is probably how I would use it if I grew my own.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:32 PM (BVQ+1)

53 Non-gardeningly, my grandfather's Model T (still going when I was a kid) was the first one here in smallville, OK, so I was told. Brought it in by rail because in those days, you couldn't practically drive here from there, as it were. Said road conditions soon much improved by granddad's cement company.

Posted by: mindful webworker spans centuries at May 26, 2018 01:33 PM (XqXVp)

54 KT I looked at the Taiwan salvias, yes they are dramatic large scale. I find myself planting less vibrant tones usually. I admire the rich reds and bright yellows in other peoples gardens but usually I tend to the lower key hues. I do use red as an accent though.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:34 PM (oxpQH)

55 Hydrangeas do well in shade. I'm in Texas and have mine in horrible, clay soil in almost 90% shade and they love it. They also love lots of water like their name indicates. I can only get mine to bloom pink since the soil is so base. It's also very hot here and it will droop in the sun but perk right up in the shade.
Here is a shot right now when it get's it daily sun.

http://tinypic.com/r/e982km/9

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 01:35 PM (kufk0)

56 47 Do you know any alpind gardeners?

I've known many, as I've had a rock/alpine garden in the past and have been a member of the North American Rock Garden Society for most of the last 30 years. There is commonly a significant strain of native plant enthusiasm which draws people to try to grow the lovely things'

Posted by: Hal Dall at May 26, 2018 01:37 PM (5+rMY)

57 Saw Baltimore Orioles at new job! So beautiful...

Must. Feed.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:39 PM (oxpQH)

58 The birds not the baseballers

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:40 PM (oxpQH)

59 I have nearly everything planted. I "may" have had far too many green bean and cucumber plants for available containers (bonus! I now own aqua and purple planters). This transitioning from the ground to containers has been not without cost, and I still have 6 green bean plants in my side gardens in the ground.

I went with: green beans, cucumbers, tomatoes (Roma and cherry), eggplant, cabbage (2 varieties), peas (3 varieties), lettuce (mustard greens, spinach, red lettuce and some "surprise" mix), peppers (5 different varieties). I also have a 5-tier herb tower (OMG I LOVE that thing!!)

There are earth boxes, planters, and a giant bag table taking up a good half of my patio.

The good news about these containers is they are high enough that the rabbits are not feasting nightly on my plants.

The bad news is we are gonna look like rabbits if all this comes up. I swear I have more growing now than when I planted mainly in the ground.

Posted by: Ann at May 26, 2018 01:40 PM (e59uY)

60 Saw Baltimore Orioles at new job! So beautiful...

Must. Feed.

What do they eat ?

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 01:41 PM (ojwL9)

61 I don't see any insects on the cucumber plants during day but keep finding their leaves all eaten through.

I toss all vegetable scraps into compost and find the remains of some growing some time later. So that's what I keep tring to grow, doesn't cast anything for the experiment.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 01:41 PM (aC6Sd)

62 52 Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM
You need to plant a lot of beans for a significant harvest of dried beans. They say you can use Black Turtle as a snap green bean (it probably has a string and requires good ripening weather). It is also used as a fresh shelly bean, which is probably how I would use it if I grew my own.
Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 01:32 PM (BVQ+1)

Thanks, KT, I may end up using them as green beans. I guess I better start planting them.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 26, 2018 01:43 PM (vW8Mk)

63 Great pictures and write up, KT!

Anyway, it's unseasonably cool in the Central Valley and we even had some rain on the north east side of Bakersfield.

Nothing to report on the gardening front. Just letting the front planter fill out with flowers and contemplating building a new planter to fill in a dead space in the front yard.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 26, 2018 01:44 PM (WEBkv)

64 15 Yep. I'm apparently something of a tick magnate. Get it? Tick Magnate! HAHAHAHA! A little farm & garden humor. I crack myself up.
Anyhoo- I'm going to get a sprayer and turn the place into a super fund site. Not a fan of ticks.
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 01:05 PM (MVjcR)

----------------------

I'll never forget my first spring in MN. If you go roaming in the woods in MN during the spring, you will be removing ticks from your body. 13 of them, my first time out, if memory serves.

Uggh.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 26, 2018 01:48 PM (WEBkv)

65 A couple weeks back I helped Mom plant her flower beds and some pots for the back porch. One of my favorite combinations in pots used black petunias, light green potato vines, and a rust-colored plant (maybe a coleus). The bright green and orangey-rust colors displayed well against the velvety black.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 01:51 PM (qJtVm)

66 Ain't there some kinda bird that eats ticks ?
Guinea hen mebbe ?
If so, mebbe intro some to Weasel Acres ?
Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018

Chickens and Quail eat all bugs they can catch.

Guinea fowl can eat ticks and snakes, but are really LOUD and very stupid.

Posted by: pogomip at May 26, 2018 02:00 PM (87V/q)

67 60 - they like oranges and grapes and grape jelly. Some folks
give them hummingbird nectar

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 02:02 PM (oxpQH)

68 Ticks of the wood variety seem to be bad here.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 02:05 PM (aC6Sd)

69 Hal Dall at May 26, 2018 01:37 PM

Rock gardens, especially in friendly climates, can be stunning. And I like finding little treasures tucked here and there.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:10 PM (BVQ+1)

70 Salad is on the menu this weekend! Regular leaf lettuce, baby spinach, romaine, lots of herbs from the containers. Apparently all that rain last week agreed with them.

BTW, thanks for the suggestions for determinant or bush style tomatoes for the EarthBoxes. They went in this week and are thriving. (I've been known to kill plants in 24 hours, hence my enthusiasm.) We are trying a couple of heat loving types. They are called the Phoenix and Heat Master. We'll see how they do.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 02:11 PM (V+03K)

71 www.totallandscapecare.com/
green-industry-news/quails-vs-ticks/

Bobwhite Quail Armies!

Posted by: pogomip at May 26, 2018 02:12 PM (87V/q)

72 kallisto at May 26, 2018 01:34 PM

Many varieties of Salvia splendens are self-cleaning, which cuts down on labor in large plantings.

I tend to go for the less-bright colors, too, except for accents. I generally prefer deep red to bright red and pale yellow to bright yellow.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:13 PM (BVQ+1)

73 cool article on the reblooming Josee lilac (which I'm fairly certain is what I have). The new one is Bloomerang, which doesn't need to be pruned to get a rebloom.

I called it ever-bearing, but that is more of a strawberry term.

No ticks on me ... so far, this year. But the buffalo gnats (black flies) are a nuisance. Record temp for this day is 91 and I have 91 now, forecast high 94. ... supposed to be 90's most of next week.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 26, 2018 02:14 PM (bT8Z4)

74 What beautiful flowers! I wish I could help Linda, but I have different soil and climate. Sedum and hostas are my go-to shade plants, along with some ferns.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2018 02:15 PM (/+bwe)

75 That's a Model A. Introduced 1927 I believe.

Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 02:15 PM (UdKB7)

76 In keeping with my black thumb, this year I am planting whirligigs. My poor spirea is just not doing well the past few years and there are so many gaps that until I can get the strong backs to dig and replant, I will just fill in. I think I will do the same with the big pots this year, last year had beautiful grasses, but they won't come back.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 02:15 PM (MIKMs)

77 My very very old peonies (50+ years old from grandparents house) do not bloom until first week of June.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 02:19 PM (MIKMs)

78 48 Wow, quite a long post.

I believe that's a Model A, not T, in that great pic.
Posted by: mindful webworker - of the black thumb webworkers at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (XqXVp)


Tractor looks like it might be a Farmall M (mfg 1939-1953)

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 26, 2018 02:20 PM (di1hb)

79 I came across mention of dehydrators on another site, which got me thinking. (Always dangerous.) Now We're seriously looking at getting a good one. It doesn't have to be huge but effective. Cabelas has a 10 tray model that gets good reviews. I wouldn't expect much from the garden to dry except for herbs unless the tomatoes go wild. But getting decent amounts from the local farmers market would be a possibilty. The idea of apple chips, dried peaches, tomatoes, etc. for use during the year is enticing.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2018 02:22 PM (V+03K)

80 Thanks as always for a magnificent gardening thread, KT.

Still living vicarously through the pics and stories of other gardeners because the pregnant and lactating deer are continuing to feed on most things in our garden. I'm giving up in the front flower beds and just planting some more darn new gold lantana because they are indestructible and the deer won't eat them. (They are eating ruelias, plumbagos, esperanzas, and even some salvias--all of which they won't eat most of the time. Even the bars of Irish Spring soap won't repel them. Aaargh!)

But the salivas that they don't eat (some variety of salvia greggii and indigo spires) are going great guns.

It will be 96 here today and in 100s for most of the next 10 days, so unless I get any work in the garden done early in the day, it's not happening.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 26, 2018 02:32 PM (S+f+m)

81 Moki at May 26, 2018 01:16 PM

Your dad swallowed sulfur tablets to deter insects?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:33 PM (BVQ+1)

82 lin-duh at May 26, 2018 01:35 PM

Thanks for the great hydrangea photo. If your soil pH is set for pink hydrangeas of that type, better to start out with one that's intended to be pink. Right?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:42 PM (BVQ+1)

83 That's a Model A. Introduced 1927 I believe.
Posted by: f'd at May 26, 2018 02:15 PM (UdKB7)
Yep you are right.
Make a great hot rod

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 26, 2018 02:43 PM (czkHE)

84 Ann at May 26, 2018 01:40 PM

Good luck with your new concentrated elevated garden!

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:44 PM (BVQ+1)

85 My very very old peonies (50+ years old from grandparents house) do not bloom until first week of June.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 02:19 PM (MIKMs)


I have a very old peonies, but it still hasn't lost its bloom.

Posted by: Charlie Rose at May 26, 2018 02:44 PM (/qEW2)

86 Ugh. Defrosting the garage freezer. Bought it a couple of years ago to replace a dead one. I never thought to see if it was frost free. I couldn't imagine someone buying one that wasn't.

Except me, apparently.

Just was looking at price and delivery date when I bought it.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 26, 2018 02:47 PM (di1hb)

87 Skip at May 26, 2018 01:41 PM

Have you tried snail and slug bait? That kind made with iron (pet safe) might be a good choice. You could also set a beer trap to see if you have slugs.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:47 PM (BVQ+1)

88 Dr No left out the name, it's a magnolia blossom. I had a large one in the front yard in California. Haven't been back to see, just hoping the drought didn't kill it. Blooms all summer, it seemed like. Awesome shade.

Posted by: Born Free at May 26, 2018 02:50 PM (ooJUc)

89 mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 02:15 PM

Whirligigs have their place in the garden. Perhaps you could find a place for one companion plant. Keep an eye out.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:50 PM (BVQ+1)

90 Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 26, 2018 02:32 PM

I like Salvia greggii and its hybrids. Nice to know that it is extra deer resistant.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:52 PM (BVQ+1)

91 That is not NOT NOTa Model T.Probably a Model A, a much much more modern automobile.Could possibly be a "B" or a first-year V8.
If you've ever sat behind the wheel there would be no doubt.Model A is a "three box" body, and drives just like...fuck me, I forgot. You can't drive a stick shift manual. God damn it.
Model T has three pedals you would never recognize, plus two levers on the column you should not be allowed to touch. And, crank.
You. People.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 26, 2018 02:56 PM (rtvho)

92 thanks for the Model A replies ... send in your old family car pics, maybe another good thread. I never saw that one myself, just the pic of it and some other nice machines.

I have an M from another uncle, but when I was a kid here they had an H, which I used some for hay. But I have another older pic closer up, that I believe shows it is an M.

And now my favorite "toy" I just bought is like the little Allis Chalmers B from my youth, but this one has a belly mower to eventually mow a few miles of pathways through my woods with many perfectly manicured gardens along the way ... hey, I can dream, can't I? lol

Posted by: illiniwek at May 26, 2018 03:09 PM (bT8Z4)

93 My salvia that I started inside died of neglect, but not to worry, Wal-Mart has them like 6 for under $2. I put out 18 of them in a little spot, nice color, hope they bloom for awhile. The little tag just says "salvia". I'll need to visit a nursery some day for more choice.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 26, 2018 03:16 PM (bT8Z4)

94 All my hydrangeas started blue and are now pink.

Just watched videos on how to make pemmican... interesting. Might try it this fall. It's too hot now.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 03:22 PM (kufk0)

95 I don't see any insects on the cucumber plants during day but keep finding their leaves all eaten through.
__________

Snails, slugs, leaf rollers not far behind, there's a couple more I can't think of.

Ortho makes a pesticide that is nontoxic to humans.
It may be purchased at Hm Dpt.

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 03:37 PM (bxu2Y)

96 Whirligigs have their place in the garden. Perhaps you could find a place for one companion plant. Keep an eye out.
=====

I decided that they would be my hedge this year rather than planting.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 03:37 PM (MIKMs)

97 Will look Tuesday

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 03:39 PM (aC6Sd)

98 KT don't have any beer here, will single malt scotch do?

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 03:40 PM (aC6Sd)

99 Guinea fowl can eat ticks and snakes, but are really LOUD and very stupid.

I guess we won't see THEM on Jeopardy !

Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 03:48 PM (ojwL9)

100 My yard isn't very large so I'm trying tick tubes this year to try to get them under control. You can buy them on-line but I'm making my own.

https://organicdailypost.com/make-tick-tubes/

I put the first batch out in April the 2nd batch will go out in July. The ticks are supposed to live on mice if the mice use the treated nesting material in the tubes that should kill most of the ticks. If it doesn't work I'm only out $20 worth of permethrin I bought. I already had cardboard tubes from paper towels toilet rolls, I used dryer lint for the nesting material.

Posted by: badgerwx at May 26, 2018 03:58 PM (fo5HA)

101
Looking for some advice regarding getting irises to bloom. We have dozens upon dozens of irises - the "regular" kind, nothing special - in our beds at our summer place. The soil is sandy, exposed to sun most of the day and typical rainfall for the Mid-Atlantic region.

At any given year at most 10% of these plants will produce blooms. The remainder have the foliage, which ranges in size from essentially equal to those which did bloom down to "sprouts" about an inch or two tall.

Have folks here any advice as to what we could do to boost the number of blooming plants? T'anks, eh!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 04:23 PM (NoLse)

102
I guess we won't see THEM on Jeopardy !
Posted by: JT at May 26, 2018 03:48 PM (ojwL9)


They are, however, naturals for celebrity newsreaders' Jeopardy.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2018 04:26 PM (NoLse)

103 Guinea fowl can eat ticks and snakes, but are really LOUD and very stupid.

I guess we won't see THEM on Jeopardy !

Posted by: JT
****************

My grandfather used them as watchdogs.
I think they eat snails a and slugs also.

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 04:29 PM (bxu2Y)

104 84. posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 02:44 PM (BVQ+1)

Thank you!

Posted by: Ann at May 26, 2018 04:34 PM (e59uY)

105 I am late, but I managed to get a Korean melon, chamoe yellow melons, planted from seeds I saved from last year.
I sprouted them first in a saucer with a paper towel in it to make sure I would get something.

I was not in because I was helping my niece plan for putting up a deer fence around her garden.
I may take pictures when it is done.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 06:06 PM (2K6fY)

106 Linda, I've found there are two (probably more) types of hydrangea. The stout woody kind grows best in cold climates (zone 5 or less). The southern kind have lightweight, smooth stems. We have a southern kind in our yard. It's massive and really loves the total shade and constantly moist, mossy soil it gets against the house. Blooms as big as a dinner plate, and the clearest baby blue color. I do nothing to it except prune in the winter. Check your zone, and get the right species that can survive your local heat or cold.

Posted by: NadineCharmichael at May 26, 2018 06:22 PM (qgFIz)

107 101 - after a number of years the irises must be divided. Right now the growth energy is going to foliage rather than flower.
You can replant the roots you dig out, or gift to a friend.

Mom planted the dug up rhizomes out back, they were a lovely addition to her rose garden.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 06:24 PM (/VB9J)

108 Skip at May 26, 2018 03:40 PM

I have never heard if slugs like scotch. I know they like beer.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 07:10 PM (BVQ+1)

109 NadineCharmichael at May 26, 2018 06:22 PM

Hey! Welcome to the comment thread!

Sorry about the variable spelling of your nic. Loved your pictures. You have a way with plant combinations.

As you have suggested, are more than two kinds of hydrangeas. We may have to summarize again.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 07:13 PM (BVQ+1)

110 badgerwx at May 26, 2018 03:58 PM

They use something similar to tick tubes in some wild areas. Interesting idea.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 07:16 PM (BVQ+1)

111 Bees don't fertilize maples- they pollinate them

Posted by: S2 at May 26, 2018 08:12 PM (roj2h)

112 Thanks KT! I appreciate you putting so many of my pictures in! Frankly, the Horde frightens me sometimes, but the Garden Thread seems usually safe.

Linda, here is a pic of our southern hydrangeas. They love.the moist soil and complete neglect. I'm about 5'4", and the tallest branches are easily 6'. Beer bottle for size reference, and just because.

http://i68.tinypic.com/oku8b7.jpg

Posted by: NadineCharmichael at May 26, 2018 08:58 PM (qgFIz)

113 Nadine, if that is S. coccinea in your Fairy Garden, be careful when you remove the flowering stems after they bloom. The stems are quite brittle and you can break off more than you intended. Hand shears recommended.

If you deadhead, the plants should bloom all summer.

And thanks for the hydrangea pic in the comment. Beautiful color.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 09:24 PM (BVQ+1)

114 Kindltot at May 26, 2018 06:06 PM

Some of those Korean melons are interesting.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 26, 2018 09:25 PM (BVQ+1)

115 Oakleaf hydrangeas will do great in the shade, they can get tall so place in the back of the border. Begonias and hostas would do well and maybe hang some hanging baskets from the trees with ferns and pretty fuschias.
Fire ants eat ticks, the only benefit to having these horrible insects. You can also put down/spray in beneficial nematodes.
I wish I had more shade, I get full on afternoon sun here in Houston, it even burns my citrus.

Posted by: Dreadpirateroberta at May 26, 2018 11:20 PM (yjbTx)

The not-so-great debate [KT]

Remember that long debate on political correctness featuring Jordan Peterson and three other people? It was linked in the sidebar not long ago. The actual debate starts at about 7:30 if you want to watch the whole thing. I don't think this was a debate packed with great ideas, but it provided some interesting insights into how the Left thinks of "debate". The topic of the debate was supposed to be "Political Correctness: Be It Resolved, What You Call Political Correctness, I Call Progress..."

I'm not sure that this was evident through the course of the debate. David Thompson and his commenters have some follow-up that includes two shorter clips. This post indicates that, to the debaters on the Left, the primary topic was "Be it resolved: Jordan Peterson is a Mean White Man."

I think the debate meandered quite a bit. And Michelle Goldberg started off the debate by excluding her least-favorite parts of political correctness. And by focusing on opposition to Jordan Peterson. I lost patience. So the comments here at AoSHQ and at the link above have been helpful. The stated topic of the debate did not specify White Privilege, but much of the debate seemed to be about White Privilege. Probably because that was the specialty of one of the lefty debaters.

Well, there was feminism, too. No wonder Michelle Goldberg hates bloggers and social media.

In the comments, Joan shares this short but telling clip illustrating the lofty standard of debate offered by Ms Goldberg, one of the New York Times' finest. Readers are invited to watch the clip and then join me in devising possible excuses. For instance,

"I, a professional journalist with a degree in journalism from Berkeley, didn't actually bother to watch the interview that I referred to repeatedly during a public debate and which I cited with great enthusiasm, and in which both the interviewer and interviewee make clear, pointedly and repeatedly - at least three times - that Peterson didn't say what I, a professional journalist and self-styled upholder of good manners, claimed that he said."

Of course the acid test of Ms Goldberg's integrity, such as it may be, is how she responds to the dozens of people who've tweeted her with proof of this, shall we say, error. Will there be a retraction, an admission of ineptness, an apology to Peterson?

One thing that struck me, both from the false quote and the debate in general, was the demonstration, once again, of how little the Left cares about clarity of language.

Lights of the Left on Video

Michelle Goldberg:

Michael Dyson, who seems to have forgotten that he is speaking in front of a Canadian audience:

As at AoSHQ, David Thompson's commenters have some interesting insights. Here are three that I liked:

10:00

Dyson also informs the audience that "white privilege doesn't act according to quantifiable segments," and that to ask for specifics, actual points that might be discussed and tested, is itself a sign of "white privilege," especially when such questions are asked with "lethal intensity."

Kafkatrap!

10:35:

How do you ask a question with "lethal intensity"?

Heh. I think the message being sent is something like, "If you ask me to be specific and substantiate my claims I will imply that your line of questioning encourages violence against minorities."

17:03:

"Slavery as permanent trump card, no matter how many generations have passed since it was abolished."

Well, okay then. If that's how they want to play it...

The Barbary pirates, sometimes called Barbary corsairs or Ottoman corsairs, were Ottoman pirates and privateers who operated from North Africa ... Their predation extended throughout the Mediterranean, south along West Africa's Atlantic seaboard and into the North Atlantic as far north as Iceland, but they primarily operated in the western Mediterranean. In addition to seizing merchant ships, they engaged in Razzias, raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, but also in the British Isles, the Netherlands and as far away as Iceland. The main purpose of their attacks was to capture Christian slaves for the Ottoman slave trade as well as the general Arab slavery market in North Africa and the Middle East.

It could be argued that it was the desire to destroy this practice at its root - the slave trade within Africa - which led ultimately to the end of the Atlantic trade. The fact that the Barbary pirates were finally subdued around the late 18th/early 19th Centuries, just as abolitionism began to gain traction in the British Empire, is surely too neat to be coincidental.

But that would spoil the narrative of European original sin. And this is the really important point: it's not simply that Britain saw the error of its ways, abolishing the slave trade out of some kind of guilty conscience (and in the end managed to convince America); the British Empire was the first civilization to recognise that slavery is wrong in the first place, not just for its own people, but in principle. That's our idea, and without it there would be no guilt, just as the Berbers, the Ottomans, the Arabs, and the West Africans felt no guilt in taking slaves for themselves.

Talk about cultural appropriation...

Did you manage to watch the entire debate? Parts of it? Anything stand out in your mind?

NOTE: This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

If you're in the path of the big storm, be careful.

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1 Aha- I see.

Posted by: Miklos, in the mornin' at May 26, 2018 11:23 AM (zCyNd)

2 Huevos!

Posted by: Jeb! at May 26, 2018 11:23 AM (/qEW2)

3 I said before, the phrase "300 years of slavery" probably means that slavery has not been abolished.

Dyson's grandfather knew Jim Crow I assume. His grandfather's grandfather knew a time when the klan helped elect US congressmen. And his grandfather's grandfather's grandfather knew slavery. He thinks he belongs in that group. And not the select group of people who sell books and appear on TV, like Jordan Peterson does.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 11:25 AM (rnAwa)

4 Here I am. I am here. Am I here?

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2018 11:26 AM (ARQ+P)

5 Remember that long debate on political correctness featuring Jordan Peterson and three other people?

Yesn't.

* retreats to previous thread *

Posted by: mindful webworker - it was supposed to be funny... at May 26, 2018 11:27 AM (XqXVp)

6 I have fallen in front of a tv and can't get up

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 11:27 AM (aC6Sd)

7 I've seen Dyson many times in the past. He's a one note Johnny.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:27 AM (IqV8l)

8 I have fallen in front of a tv and can't get up

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 11:27 AM (aC6Sd)

Wait for the Viagra ads.

Posted by: Miklos, reclining comfortably at May 26, 2018 11:29 AM (zCyNd)

9 11:30 am is the time for a Mid-Day Open Thread at Ace's Place?

How can it be mid-day if Ace is still asleep?

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 11:29 AM (QQwu1)

10 I watched this a few day ago, Not impressed. Jordan was the only one that made any sense. His partner the flaming white suit guy was tolerable but the opponents were not there to debate but to tear down Peterson. Insights into how the left victim mentality thinks were flailed all about. I'm a woman and I'm oppressed or I'm a Black racist preacher here is why Whites are bad.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 26, 2018 11:30 AM (0OmEj)

11 I kill so many threads. Jeezo. Then I feel like an idiot reposting.
Oh well, I'm an idiot:

We're going to go see the photograph's of Vivian Maier this a.m. It's an amazing story. She was a nanny, and an amazing, talented photographer who got zero recognition during her lifetime. There's a 1 hour YouTube documentary about her life. Well worth the watch.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 26, 2018 11:30 AM (ty7RM)

12 How can it be mid-day if Ace is still asleep?

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 11:29 AM (QQwu1)

The people at Greenwich Naval Observatory set their clock by the clink of the Valu-Rite bottles flying from Ace's window.

Posted by: Miklos, 24/7/366 at May 26, 2018 11:31 AM (zCyNd)

13 I want to wish Presdent Obama a "Happy Memorial Day" and thank him for taking care of are vets and not starting any stupid wars like Trump has.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 26, 2018 11:32 AM (qM84C)

14 Morning, Horde. Taking a break from yard work. Need moar coffee.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2018 11:33 AM (hLOaE)

15 Mary is so right!!!

And Mary, I see that your intern is typing for you. Keep that work/life/unpaid staff balance!

Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro at May 26, 2018 11:34 AM (zCyNd)

16 I've seen Dyson many times in the past. He's a one note Johnny.
...
Dyson must keep up the myths of white privilege and racist bogeymen.

Without that thumb on the scale and all things being equal, he would be exposed for the pseudo-intellectual fraud that he is.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at May 26, 2018 11:36 AM (2wOtx)

17

Time to get dressed for the parade. This has turned into a tradition for several of us, one which I'm honored to participate in.
Class A's are kinda hot to walk in, but the uniform still looks good with the chest candy and unit badges.

So I will see you all later on--enjoy the day, and please take just a moment to say thank you to those who made all this possible.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2018 11:36 AM (S/hVx)

18 watched Evil Genius on Netflix (I know) last night

about the pizza guy who was forced to rib a bank, with a bomb stuck around his neck

while the perpetrators were definitely evil, didn't see much genius, just more FB fail

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 11:36 AM (hMwEB)

19 4 Here I am. I am here. Am I here?

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2018 11:26 AM (ARQ+P)


'Ere I am, R.I.

Posted by: Mr. Kurtzman at May 26, 2018 11:36 AM (NL6wI)

20 Clarity of language is the # 1 enemy of leftist "thinking".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 26, 2018 11:38 AM (xJrIn)

21 the pizza guy who was forced to rib a bank...
Somebody's tummy is growling.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at May 26, 2018 11:39 AM (2wOtx)

22 I am nice white man, si? I submit. I do whatever you say. I denounce mean white men.

Posted by: ¡Jeb! at May 26, 2018 11:40 AM (/qEW2)

23 language is a window into a person's mind...

it's kinda hard to write/speak clearly when your thoughts are addled.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2018 11:41 AM (79lT1)

24 good morning morons. Obama ate a dog.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 11:42 AM (KWnR1)

25 Al Gore uses eliminationist rhetoric in address to University of Maryland graduates

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/297775/

Posted by: steevy at May 26, 2018 11:42 AM (LiyEm)

26 I tried and watched most of it. I freely admit I would skip quite a bit of the leftists blather because that's all it was.

People like Dyson who sponge off of racial grievance is the reason we will never have anything approaching race normalcy in the US (and wider west).

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 11:42 AM (+Tibp)

27 I watched the whole debate. Lesson learned: Humor goes a long way.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 11:42 AM (0bRDi)

28 FBI fail that is

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 11:42 AM (hMwEB)

29 There are three types of people in Michael Dyson's world:

1. Michael Eric Dyson.
2. Those who subordinate themselves to Michael Eric Dyson.
3. Racists.

What a blowhard. Didn't much like being called a Huckster did he?

Posted by: phone of kari at May 26, 2018 11:43 AM (VoMt7)

30 "One thing that struck me, both from the false quote and the debate in general, was the demonstration, once again, of how little the Left cares about clarity of language."

Clarity of language is racisss. You're a mean White Man! (Pats self on back).

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 11:44 AM (9BLnV)

31
Al Gore uses eliminationist rhetoric in address to University of Maryland graduates

Poop jokes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 11:44 AM (IqV8l)

32 I didn't watch the whole thing but if you look at comments on it, they are as far as I can tell 100% in support of Peterson and against the lefties. He (and to a lesser extent Frye) came across as informed, polite, on target, intelligent, and prepared. The others came off as idiotic, annoying, obnoxious, offensive, and ignorant, repeating stupid talking points and demonstrating a near-total inability to think rationally and usefully.

Even the leftists who commented lamented that they wished someone better than those two knuckleheads were there to support their side because they were so monumentally idiotic and worthless.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 11:45 AM (39g3+)

33 16
Without that thumb on the scale and all things being equal, he would be exposed for the pseudo-intellectual fraud that he is.
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at May 26, 2018 11:36 AM (2wOtx)


Pseudo-intellectual fraud, indeed. He never misses an opportunity to use a ten dollar word when a one dollar word will do, to show off his erudition and impress the dullards.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 11:45 AM (sdi6R)

34 good morning morons. Obama ate a dog.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 11:42 AM (KWnR1)

Is dog penis considered a delicacy in the Muslim world? I'm sure it is in BO's world, since human penis is, too.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 11:46 AM (9BLnV)

35 Watched the whole thing. Dyson and Goldberg were simply an embarrassment. Dyson mentioned his own book a few times and asked Peterson to flack for it on his twitter because he was the powerful one. Envy is not attractive. Goldberg was just stupid. Steve Fry started slowly, establishing his classical liberal bona fides, keeping on track, and then ending big with humor.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 11:48 AM (MIKMs)

36 Put a big pair of glasses on Michelle Goldberg and she'd look like Edna Mode from the Incredibles.

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 11:49 AM (EzdLW)

37 I found the debate almost entirely predictable and uninteresting (with the usual bouts of irritation over the monotony and dishonesty with which the Left "debates). I don't know why our side doesn't just open and close such debates with the simple observation that PC is a Maoist (i.e., totalitarian) creation so how could it possible be a social good? Anyway, I was also irritated by Jordan Peterson's concessionary insistence that Nazism is a product of the "far right." Please read Dinesh D'Souza, Dr. Peterson.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 26, 2018 11:49 AM (H8QX8)

38 13 I want to wish Presdent Obama a "Happy Memorial Day" and thank him for taking care of are vets and not starting any stupid wars like Trump has.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien


Usually, I just smile at Mary's stupid posts.

So, unusually, this one makes me want to smack Mary upside the head with a big wet tuna. (Modified from what I was going to say.) SPLABPT!

Posted by: mindful webworker runs out of coffee at May 26, 2018 11:50 AM (XqXVp)

39 Watched the debate. Very poor choice of people to take the affirmative position. Neither of them really wanted to deal with the meat. Peterson and Fry were good, but failed to present what is going on across the country including violence and de-platforming of non-PC views. It was quite clear that Dyson felt intellectually inferior to Peterson. Dyson is clearly racist. He made a bizarre point that people weren't used to dealing with smart black men like him. Hmmmm. I deal with smarter black men than him every day. I call them my neighbors and coworkers. Dyson plays only one note and its flat--his experience as a black man trumps all. I was disappointed that Peterson did not say that because he bucked insane PC rules, he was threatened with the loss of employment, prison, and being branded a pariah. He gave a speech a few weeks ago where an arrested protester was found to have a garrote. Goldberg clearly lacked any kind of intellect to have the debate. Peterson kept hammering on a simple question; when has the left gone too far? But his framing of the debate required people understanding that PC was invented by the neo-Marxists to control debate. But the real problem was that neither Dyson or Goldberg could actually defend their position. Stephen Fry was excellent on many levels.

Posted by: IanDeal at May 26, 2018 11:50 AM (5mrLG)

40 The slavery thing deeply confuses me. Slavery officially ended in the UK in 1833. In the US, it was abolished in 1865.

So when these idiots talk about slavery for 400 years, what the hell are they talking about? The Americas weren't even discovered by Europeans until 1498 (the islands in 1492 don't really count but even if they did, that's still not 400 years and there were no black slaves around then). The first slave on US soil was not until 1619. Where does this 400 years thing come from?

My guess is its from the Hebrews being enslaved in Egypt 400 years and just borrowing that number to apply to themselves by blacks in America. It sounds impressive, but its without merit. I mean, America abolished Slavery 89 years after the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 11:50 AM (39g3+)

41 Welp, I better get back out there and finish mowing before I get too comfortable in here and don't want to go back Outside.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 11:51 AM (sdi6R)

42 Moar Peterson: https://youtu.be/hHXi9g54v7Y

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 11:52 AM (+Tibp)

43 I am not a master debater, but I think that Jordan Peterson needs to avoid getting set off. He has mentioned, in other venues, that he knows this. It is usually the better choice to defuse, and if you can't find the words for that, then say you are at a loss for words, which is God's honest truth, or remain quiet, which is also truth.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 11:53 AM (0bRDi)

44 Heck importing slaves into the US was passed in 1807, that's just 31 years after the declaration of independence, and technically the USA wasn't even its own nation until 1781. How the hell does anyone trot out this 400 years thing??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 11:54 AM (39g3+)

45 While waiting to board my flight here in Phoenix I just saw a headline of a local business paper. Amazon Plans 1500 Jobs for Phoenix.
Bwahahaha!!!
Hey Seattle, how many of them were yours?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2018 11:55 AM (r74Oi)

46
Be It Resolved, What You Call Political Correctness, I Call Progress



Even the wording of this "resolution" lacks clarity of language. The word "call". Well, yes, it is true that some call it Political Correctness and some call it Progress. Some could call it a ham sandwich. Some could call it shit and some could call it shinola.

Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2018 11:56 AM (EzdLW)

47 I watch one video of Peterson, now my YT homepage shows me nothing but Peterson videos.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 11:59 AM (+Tibp)

48 Professor Peterson should just reference Kanye West's statement regarding slavery.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 26, 2018 11:59 AM (rdl6o)

49 Boulder t'hobo #24: ...Obama ate a dog.

AoSHQ style guide suggests that we don't know if BO ate a whole dog, nor whether it was only one dog. So the "a" modifier should be dropped. As in:

The stammering, venomous, jug-eared, limp-wristed, mincing, traitorous, c*cks*ck!ng, musloid, America-hating commie bastard son of commies and perverts ate dog.

Posted by: mindful webworker - stylin' moronically at May 26, 2018 12:00 PM (XqXVp)

50 So when these idiots talk about slavery for 400 years, what the hell are they talking about?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 11:50 AM (39g3+)

You can't admit that blacks are still slaves to this very day! The fact that you lie about this scientific fact is a micro aggression and proof of your White privilege. You are also a mean White Man! (Bends over, places head between legs and kisses own ass).

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 12:00 PM (9BLnV)

51
Be It Resolved, What You Call Political Correctness, I Call Progress


Banana,banana,banana.

Posted by: #Fakenews at May 26, 2018 12:01 PM (10vO4)

52 Dyson is so pretentious.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at May 26, 2018 12:01 PM (Un5mv)

53 Expecting clarity of ideas in a "discussion" is a clear sign of oppressive #WhitePrivilege. Just like expecting words to have an enduring meaning that could be looked up in a commonly available reference (like a dictionary).

BTW, I think the four hundred years of slavery is counted from 1619 Jamestown to today because #WhitePrivilege is still enslaving the black man (and maybe the black woman as well). Always found it rather sad that the fact that the muz are still conducting slave auctions doesn't even seem to come up in the discussion. I guess #muzPrivilege is a potentially divisive topic.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 12:01 PM (n9EOP)

54 Slavery is as old as human existence, not totally gone either.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 12:02 PM (aC6Sd)

55
One thing that struck me, both from the false quote and the debate in general, was the demonstration, once again, of how little the Left cares about clarity of language.










One mistake that us right-wingers tend to make about the commies is to think that they're dumb, ignorant or misinformed. I fall into that trap all the time. They know damned well what we are, what our arguments are, and what their own arguments are.

Clarity of language is no different.

They obfuscate the language not because they don't understand the arguments, but as a TACTIC. The willful ignorance of say, gun terminology, is a conscious decision in order to manipulate the audience. In that case, they've been quite open about their intent to blur the distinction between terms in order to achieve a rhetorical goal.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 12:04 PM (XWkhW)

56 So when these idiots talk about slavery for 400 years, what the hell are they talking about?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Math and facts are white constructs meant to support the self-perpetuating white privilege patriarchy.

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 12:04 PM (+Tibp)

57 Posted by: mindful webworker - stylin' moronically at May 26, 2018 12:00 PM (XqXVp)

Thank you, I always find that clearly written topical sentences help to make the finer grammatical points far easier to understand!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 12:05 PM (n9EOP)

58 That Dyson feller can sure use his tongue purtier than a $20 whore, still don't mean he ain't a ******.

Posted by: Mr. Taggart at May 26, 2018 12:05 PM (B/2Ej)

59 You can't "debate" insanity and childish denial.
Leftists will continue to tell their fairy tales despite an entire universe of facts that completely discredit their assumptions.
In Dyson's case, he has to sell the hell out of his racial injustice snake oil, or be lumped in with the rest of the booger-eaters trying to scratch out a living the hard way.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at May 26, 2018 12:06 PM (2wOtx)

60
Dyson is so pretentious.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at May 26, 2018 12:01 PM (Un5mv)





He should go back to what he's best at. Making things that suck.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2018 12:06 PM (XWkhW)

61 Milady read my comment above — "stammering, venomous, jug-eared, limp-wristed, mincing, traitorous, c*cks*ck!ng, musloid, America-hating commie bastard son of commies and perverts" — and noted, "and none of that is exaggeration!"

Ain't it the sad, sad truth!

Posted by: mindful webworker - truth has consequences at May 26, 2018 12:07 PM (XqXVp)

62 Kevin D Williamson is a coward. Trump was elected for one reason: illegal immigration. People were sick of being called "racists" for objecting to the open border demands of Republican Big Business for low-wage slave labor and Democrat government bureaucrats for voting welfare clients. Illegal immigration is where the $$money$$ is.

But he can't directly make an argument for open borders because it would make him sound like the shill for corporate globalism that he is.

So he looks down his nose at cops and the military, and hides like a coward behind vague bullshit terms like "populist nationalist tendency," and "white underclass dysfunction," and hopes it might get him the David Brooks gig at The New York Times.

https://nypost.com/2018/05/26/the-nfl-was-political-spectacle-long-before-kaepernick/

Posted by: marcus gravey at May 26, 2018 12:07 PM (T8/UU)

63 I just get so tired of this so-called debate. There is no debate. We're dealing with religious zealots here. They don't want to hear what you have to say. They have a gospel they're preaching, and that gospel is all about you and what you did. To them.

I'm beginning to accept that there are people I like who belong to that religion. I like them when they're not preaching their gospel. I tolerate them (sometimes) when they are. What that gospel translates to in actual living, I'm more or less of the belief it doesn't. They have to say it, like a strong swig of beer or soda has to cause them to burp.

In other words, if the subject matter does not involve "what's wrong with the world," and not every subject matter must, these are tolerable people. When it does, you just have to listen to them burp up their "white men are to blame" nonsense for a while. Then when they stop, it's time to carry on as if nothing happened. Because really, nothing did.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 12:07 PM (cY3LT)

64 "the coast is clear" (allegedly) arose from the need to check the ocean horizon for the Barbary pirates in their "swift boats", before proceeding down to the beach.

and when do I get my reparations from Germany, since my family escaped being used as cannon fodder in the mid 1800's. There is a letter from some relatives that didn't make it, pleading for even a little money to help them survive the hard times in Germany.

Trying to impose current (Western, welfare/bailout state, racial quota laws) norms into historical rhetoric from two centuries ago is a fool's errand. It's like asking why Columbus didn't just use his Google maps ap on his ipad to chart his course.

And to go back even further, to the time of Christ or the old testament, requires even more ability to realize mere survival was never a given, and being lorded over by corrupt powers was pretty normal. Sure the king might rape and murder on a whim, but if a family was lucky, at least he kept the mongrel hordes at bay. Life was cheap.

From some things I read by Vox Day (brought to my attention by some AoS commenter), Peterson is no academic on his now popular subject. I haven't read enough of Peterson to analyze, and am no academic myself. But the Vox Day commentary on him is interesting. Peterson seems to have globalist connections, and globalist friendly ideals.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/05/two-reports-one-shill.html

Posted by: illiniwek at May 26, 2018 12:07 PM (bT8Z4)

65 42 Moar Peterson: https://youtu.be/hHXi9g54v7Y
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 11:52 AM (+Tibp)

Good clip.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2018 12:08 PM (0bRDi)

66 To paraphrase Elaine Benes: These leftists aren't debate-worthy.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 26, 2018 12:08 PM (H8QX8)

67 They know damned well what we are, what our arguments are, and what their own arguments are.

Not usually. There are leftists who do but for the most part, leftists are like any other group repeating what they've heard or read and agree with, without thinking about it. Most leftists have not really ever engaged any on the right, and aren't even aware there are other arguments. They're so steeped in the sewer of like-thinking people without any dissent that they are wholly unprepared to discuss or debate.

Further, they have never been trained to thing rationally and with any sort of system or rhetorical consistency. This is a skill you have to learn, but which is not taught because it is too "white" and frankly because it leads people to reject the continual contradictions and insanity of the left.

The reason this seems clever to you is because of two things:

1) they are so irrational and unable to think systematically and intelligently that they seem tricky and are frustrating
2) they are trained by the few people who do know better and thought this stuff through to use words incorrectly. This allows them to shape the debate by banning some terms and concepts and manipulating others to their benefit.

Its not that they know or understand. Its that they have been taught by people who did, even if the teaching is just culture.

Leftism is the worldview of the infantile and uncivilized, it fits what we wish to feel to be true, without all that unpleasant questioning, doubting, and thinking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:09 PM (39g3+)

68 It's funny that Trump has done more for the black community in his 17 months than 50+ years of Democrat paternalism.

Also, TCM is running old war movies all day. Nice.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 12:10 PM (+Tibp)

69 In other words, if the subject matter does not involve "what's wrong with the world," and not every subject matter must, these are tolerable people.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 12:07 PM (cY3LT)


It's tough when they are family members.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 26, 2018 12:10 PM (H8QX8)

70 I watched the whole thing. My big takeaway was that Dyson is a complete charlatan.
He's used to spouting Big Words to undergrads and cannot hold his own against mature thinkers. And to see him lose control when Peterson challenged him was instructive: When the left loses a fair argument they start shouting...and eventually worse.

Posted by: PJ at May 26, 2018 12:11 PM (qlTN9)

71 [not adding anything]

dyson?... dyson?... dyson - oh, that guy. part of that first crop of ivy league black studies stars who arose in the 90's to explain how america = racism. holder is part of that academically accomplished cohort.

i heard dyson on his radio show by chance interview jay-z as the greatest living genius in the world. he meant it, which demonstrates:

- he knows nothing about genius.

- he is utterly provincial.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 12:12 PM (Pg+x7)

72 Common knowledge here at AoSHQ but worth repeating in these troubled times:

"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded - here and there, now and then - are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as "bad luck"!"

Robert A Heinlein

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 12:12 PM (n9EOP)

73 Dyson is a classic example of a Sophist: someone trained in the art of making impressive sounding statements and speeches which have no foundation in truth, reason, or logic, and which appeal to the emotion. Sophists used to literally travel around and debate things or give speeches for a living. They would be given a topic, didn't matter what it was, and argue for that topic.

Sophistry is built around emotional appeal and making people impressed with what you sound like and seem to know rather than actual content and meaning. It was despised by Platonic students, considered trash thinking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:12 PM (39g3+)

74 A thank you to Ace and the co-bloggers for the excellent daily content. May you all have a safe Memorial Day weekend.

Posted by: Octopussy at May 26, 2018 12:13 PM (Y5smy)

75 Tried to watch that debate.

Failed.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2018 12:14 PM (oVJmc)

76 Dyson looks like a fat, broke ass Sexual Chocolate.

Is that mean enough?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 12:14 PM (EoRCO)

77 Sophist, yes, fits him to a T.

Posted by: PJ at May 26, 2018 12:14 PM (qlTN9)

78 Re: Peterson. Watched a bunch of videos of him. Some good, some mildly interesting, some not so much. Subscribed to his vids and started a playlist and then just got burned out on him and went cold turkey. Don't especially feel any loss from that. Increasingly, I feel how short is life and how precious is time.

And yet I keep watching Arrow!

I never claimed to be consistent.

Posted by: mindful webworker - vid playlist blog linked here at May 26, 2018 12:14 PM (XqXVp)

79 "OK, I'm a mean white man. And you're an imbecillic mullatto. Now can we carry on with the debate, or are we going to make more trite, obvious observations about each other?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:15 PM (BRvh1)

80 Posted by: Octopussy

I second that. And as I mentioned on a previous thread, I shall reread Ace's Money for Sex Skankathon in the side bar. Treat yourself to some vintage Ace.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 12:16 PM (+Tibp)

81 Just checking, anyone know if Halper is no longer with us ? Leftists were worried his outing would be his demise.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 12:16 PM (aC6Sd)

82 Clarity of language is an obstruction to the left as they seek ever more power.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned. at May 26, 2018 12:16 PM (IcT7t)

83 Just checking, anyone know if Halper is no longer with us?

Who knows? He hasn't been seen or heard from for over a year. Lots of speculation but nobody knows except perhaps some at the FBI or CIA.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:18 PM (39g3+)

84 It's so obvious what's going on with the left. They suffer from a (justified) inferiority complex. This makes them angry, and they try to displace the true cause of it by claiming it is the fault of those who arouse their envy, like fugly feminists who accuse fashion models of creating "impossible standards" of beauty and thus oppressing women. Envious people who lack self-reflection are just tiresome. The problem is that now they feel no need for self restraint and are morphing into a brownshirt mob.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:18 PM (/qEW2)

85 Anyway, I was also irritated by Jordan Peterson's concessionary insistence that Nazism is a product of the "far right." Please read Dinesh D'Souza, Dr. Peterson.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 26, 2018 11:49 AM (H8QX


The Leftist being allowed to claim that Nazism (i.e., National Socialism) and Fascism (proclaimed by Mussolini as a "Third Way" and alternate choice besides Capitalism and Socialism) is maddening to me. If you don't believe in the primacy of the individual but rather that government should interfere and redistribute wealth, you are a Leftist. Collectivism is NOT charity.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2018 12:18 PM (5Yee7)

86 I don't know how often they have the Munk debates, but Steyn and Farage against some open borders duo was excellent. They did not win, but moved the needle to their side bigly.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

87 It's tough when they are family members.

Last time my sister was down here from Colorado, we were getting along like two amicable grown adult siblings, when suddenly she launched into how good Jane Fonda was looking.

Out of respect for the edicts of our mother, at whose house we were, I left the room rather than start yelling about how most folks (read: Morons) with whom I correspond would stand in line to piss on Fonda's grave.

We also don't talk about Trump lest Sis turn purple with rage.

Nice weather we're having, isn't it‽

Posted by: mindful webworker - the price of family peace at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (XqXVp)

88 It's so obvious what's going on with the left. They suffer from a (justified) inferiority complex.

Whatever it once was, the left has simply become a bunch of whiny people who feel small and abused lashing out trying to gain power and happiness through crushing everyone else. Every single leftist group is made up of people who feel bad about themselves, angry over perceived slights, and bitter that their life isn't turning out the way they think they are owed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (39g3+)

89 Once again, I'm reminded of Warai-otoko's second maxim of debate:

"Nuh-uh" is not a valid argument.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (BRvh1)

90 Did Peterson mention that the only reason Dyson can get away with boorish, obtuse behavior is because of black privilege? I think many white liberals pity blacks and will thus refrain from correcting them or reining them in, institutionally. So, for instance, whatever school he's at will not censure him for his remarks.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:21 PM (/qEW2)

91 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:21 PM (/qEW2)

Soft bigotry. Low expectations. Where have I heard that before?

hmm....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:22 PM (BRvh1)

92 I got your "white privilege". Right here...

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2018 12:22 PM (O5Q3r)

93 They did not win, but moved the needle to their side bigly.

In a debate, that is a win, no matter what the judges declare.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:23 PM (39g3+)

94 ... oh yeah, i remember why i wandered over here - i wanted to cite a review of the hbo documentary "the final year" on the last year of obama's foreign policy team (obama, kerry. powers, rhodes, et al). scott johnson's review at power line contains this line, which is oddly appropriate here:

"only 90 minutes long, the film began to grate as we rounded the corner into minute 2."

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 12:25 PM (Pg+x7)

95 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:21 PM (/qEW2)

Behold the principle of #AssymetricPrivilege!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2018 12:25 PM (n9EOP)

96 The modern left seems driven largely by feelings of guilt that they blame everyone outside of them for rather than what they are doing, combined with a deep sense of personal inferiority and anger that they don't get what they think they deserve out of life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:26 PM (39g3+)

97 ... i thought that was funny wordsmithery.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 12:27 PM (Pg+x7)

98 I keep seeing the media refer to David Hogg as "Parkland shooting survivor"...wasn't he at home when the shooting happened?

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 12:28 PM (0+nbW)

99 The left seems to be a few groups:

1) People who engage in abnormal behavior, feel guilty and weird about it, and believe that if everyone was forced to be nice to them and treat them as if they are normal they'd feel good about themselves finally.

2) People who never get what they think they should and feel bad about themselves, so they blame everyone else for that feeling and demand that everyone grovel in obeisance and apology so they feel better.

3) Leaders who want to weaponize all this so that they can gain power and money to enjoy all the benefits of modern society and economy while ripping down everything that produces those benefits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:28 PM (39g3+)

100 [iIt's so obvious what's going on with the left. They suffer from a (justified) inferiority complex. This makes them angry.... [and] now they feel no need for self restraint and are morphing into a brownshirt mob.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:18 PM (/qEW2)]

Hence, the campaign by Leftists to ban those firearms that would be best suited to defending yourself and family from said brownshirt mob. Their endgame is quite apparent.

MOLON LABE

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2018 12:29 PM (5Yee7)

101 It's funny that Trump has done more for the black community in his 17 months than 50+ years of Democrat paternalism.

Did I really read in a previous thread that none other than Louis Farrakhan said something to this effect?

The Trump Effect continues to be jaw-droppingly astonishing.

Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, so very tired of winning... NOT YET! at May 26, 2018 12:29 PM (XqXVp)

102 I keep seeing the media refer to David Hogg as "Parkland shooting survivor"...wasn't he at home when the shooting happened?

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 12:28 PM (0+nbW)


But I could have been at school, H8r!

Posted by: D Hogg at May 26, 2018 12:29 PM (n9EOP)

103 It's so obvious what's going on with the left. They suffer from a (justified) inferiority complex.

In the Harper article "Who goes Nazi?", the author goes around a room of English people in ?1930?. It isn't explicitly said, but you could replace nazi with any ideology that requires a radical change. And anecdotally a small, unattractive man who isn't as bright as his occupation would imply is very susceptible.

So how to you help these people? Purely to the purpose of keeping them from forming a cartel and wrecking your country? I suspect Christianity is an possible solution. I am agnostic.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 12:29 PM (rnAwa)

104 So when these idiots talk about slavery for 400 years, what the hell are they talking about?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 11:50 AM (39g3+)

There are people who believe that Columbus brought slaves WITH him. So 1492+400=1892.

Also there are some idiots who believe that--because it's so overwhelmingly black--that they were the ORIGINAL inhabitants of Haiti. Alone among all the countries of the Caribbean, all the Amerindians were wiped out long ago.

Slavery existed in the United States for.....89 years. And it was a much discussed issue for all of that time--never was every white person on American soil on board with it....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:29 PM (7uYFy)

105 "Nuh-uh" is not a valid argument.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (BRvh1)

Although "I entirely reject your premise" should get used a *lot* more often.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 12:30 PM (rp9xB)

106 >>I keep seeing the media refer to David Hogg as "Parkland shooting survivor"...wasn't he at home when the shooting happened?


He was at school. Went home. Got a camera and came back.

He was that concerned for the safety of his classmates.

At least that was the last I read about it.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:31 PM (QmRgE)

107 He was at school. Went home. Got a camera and came back.

He was that concerned for the safety of his classmates.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:31 PM (QmRgE)

Gonna save the day...w/a camera? I believe it.

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 12:33 PM (0+nbW)

108 90 Did Peterson mention that the only reason Dyson can get away with boorish, obtuse behavior is because of black privilege? I think many white liberals pity blacks and will thus refrain from correcting them or reining them in, institutionally. So, for instance, whatever school he's at will not censure him for his remarks.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:21 PM (/qEW2)


This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:33 PM (G9//X)

109 The other thing about the subject of slavery that bugs me is that it is treated like it ONLY existed in the U.S. It was the way of the world since the beginning of civilization.

What do these people think Julius Caesar did with the conquered white tribes of Gaul or Spain who survived the battles?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:34 PM (7uYFy)

110 Although "I entirely reject your premise" should get used a *lot* more often.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 12:30 PM (rp9xB)


Concur, but only for formal occasions. "Provably false" and then moving on saves time otherwise.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:34 PM (y87Qq)

111 I keep seeing the media refer to David Hogg as "Parkland shooting survivor"...wasn't he at home when the shooting happened?

It seems like he was there, at the time. Not 100% clear of course. But he was a 'survivor' the same way I was a winning member of the Mariners when I watched Randy Johnson pitch a 19 strike out game against the White Sox in the Kingdome. He was present, a distance away from the actual events, in no danger.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:34 PM (39g3+)

112 "Nuh-uh" is not a valid argument.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (BRvh1)


You have to hold your hand up, move your head from side to side, and then say "Tell it to the hand," after saying "Nuh-uh," to make a valid argument.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:35 PM (G9//X)

113 Concur, but only for formal occasions. "Provably false" and then moving on saves time otherwise.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:34 PM (y87Qq)


How about "risibly false?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (G9//X)

114 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:26 PM (39g3+)

Yes. Combining an enormous sense of entitlement backed up by nothing but massive self-conceit leads to a dangerous paranoia when the rest of the world goes its uninterested way instead of providing what the person believes is owed them. It makes them easy tools for loosing on the chosen Emanuel Goldstein.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (rp9xB)

115 I wouldn't know. Jordan deplaformed me.
.

Posted by: Faith Goldy at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (nhgiS)

116 I don't know how often they have the Munk debates, but Steyn and Farage against some open borders duo was excellent. They did not win, but moved the needle to their side bigly.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 26, 2018 12:20 PM (MIKMs)


========

According to wikipedia, they won bigly, by 22%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munk_Debates

Which doesn't surprise me. The debate happened in 2016 after Canada had its taste of terror attacks and Muzzies flooding across the border from New York. Even Justin Trudeau was smart enough to shut that down.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (/qEW2)

117 90 Did Peterson mention that the only reason Dyson can get away with boorish, obtuse behavior is because of black privilege? I think many white liberals pity blacks and will thus refrain from correcting them or reining them in, institutionally. So, for instance, whatever school he's at will not censure him for his remarks.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 12:21 PM (/qEW2)

It's almost as if people like Dyson are daring you to cite statistics that show the results of black crime, out-of-wedlock births, etc that explain why many blacks are where they are today.
So they can cal you a racist for just bringing it up.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (7uYFy)

118 What do these people think Julius Caesar did with the conquered white tribes of Gaul or Spain who survived the battles?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:34 PM (7uYFy)


What do these people think Muslims do today?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (G9//X)

119 How about "risibly false?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (G9//X)


Love it!

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (y87Qq)

120 Although "I entirely reject your premise" should get used a *lot* more often.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 12:30 PM (rp9xB)

Heh.

I remember one of the earlier episodes of Tucker Carlson's TV show, he was interviewing some crackpot who started saying things that were just demonstrably, obviously false, and Tucker eventually blurted out, "Well that's just stupid!"

So yeah, even though flat denial is "Not a valid argument", it is occasionally the right play i suppose.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:37 PM (BRvh1)

121 Heinlein's "Bad Luck" is what would have happened if they had succeeded in driving out Trump.

David Hogg was at school IIRC, and ran home and back to get his video camera. He wanted to interview people. So thoughtful and sensitive.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 12:38 PM (rnAwa)

122 What do these people think Muslims do today?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:36 PM (G9//X)

You enslaved an entire nation. You called it "Chad"...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:38 PM (BRvh1)

123 The other thing about the subject of slavery that bugs me is that it is treated like it ONLY existed in the U.S. It was the way of the world since the beginning of civilization.

Yeah, everybody enslaved everybody else. It was a matter of existence: just surviving took so much time and energy that the only way forward was to have people do at least some of the work for you. People had servants in their homes up into the early 20th century because washing dishes, cutting wood, cooking, prepping food, shopping, cleaning etc was so much work.

Imagine having no power, no gas, and no running water in your house. Forever. Now imagine how much work it would be just to make it through a single day, for the most basic tasks to survive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:38 PM (39g3+)

124 75
Tried to watch that debate.

Failed.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2018 12:14 PM (oVJmc)

I have not even tried. As I know I'm considerably to the right of both Peterson and Fry, why bother?Peterson fights. That is what makes him interesting. Fry is mostly honest. I have not seen anything in the comments here that indicates I would have any interest in wasting my time on the other two.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 12:38 PM (vWMNq)

125 Argh... s/b would *not* have any interest ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 12:39 PM (vWMNq)

126 Crap. Never mind. Ignore 125.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 12:40 PM (vWMNq)

127 It makes them easy tools for loosing on the chosen Emanuel Goldstein.

Sadly. And there is a perpetual, consistent percentage of the population who will always be there to prey upon like this. People who achieve little and demand much, people who believe they are entitled to everything they won't or can't get themselves. People who think they deserve better but aren't inclined to take the effort to get it. They are easy to weaponize by the soulless, honorless, and wicked.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:40 PM (39g3+)

128 Why is it always these coffee colored assholes the ones squawking the loudest about their "blackness"?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:41 PM (BRvh1)

129 99 The left seems to be a few groups:

1) People who engage in abnormal behavior, feel guilty and weird about it, and believe that if everyone was forced to be nice to them and treat them as if they are normal they'd feel good about themselves finally.

2) People who never get what they think they should and feel bad about themselves, so they blame everyone else for that feeling and demand that everyone grovel in obeisance and apology so they feel better.

3) Leaders who want to weaponize all this so that they can gain power and money to enjoy all the benefits of modern society and economy while ripping down everything that produces those benefits.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:28 PM (39g3+)


2.5) People who, with some justification, feel insignificant and ignored, who want to be associated with something larger than themselves so as to imbue themselves with some reflected significance and thereby gain attention.

A benign version of this is rabid fans of some sports team. The left provides a more malign version.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:42 PM (G9//X)

130

Did anyone else noticed Dyson's masturbatory rocking motions? That doesn't look disturbed, does it?

He's a psycho.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 26, 2018 12:42 PM (GdWl+)

131 @128 lactose intolerance ?

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 12:42 PM (vWMNq)

132 read this story a little while ago (the Atlantic):


My Family's Slave
She lived with us for 56 years. She raised me and my siblings without pay. I was 11, a typical American kid, before I realized who she was.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/kgzgutu

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 26, 2018 12:43 PM (hMwEB)

133 Proverbs 29 8 Scoffers set a city aflame, But wise men turn away wrath.

Scoffers are what we now call community agitators. Dyson and his ilk are nothing new, but are just as harmful as they always have been.

Posted by: Drive-by Bible Quoter at May 26, 2018 12:43 PM (juIfU)

134
Imagine having no power, no gas, and no running water in your house. Forever. Now imagine how much work it would be just to make it through a single day, for the most basic tasks to survive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:38 PM (39g3+)

And slaves tended to be captured from conquests or raids. Enslaving them was the sane, rational, humane thing to do, because the alternative was mass executions.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:43 PM (BRvh1)

135 All I could here Dyson prattling "I'm black, I'm black, I'm black and you are white monsters".

The race huckster has only one idea, thinking and debating in good faith is beyond him. In future I will avoid him like the plague and so should every fair minded person.

Posted by: Decaf at May 26, 2018 12:43 PM (Jeu6Y)

136 People who, with some justification, feel insignificant and ignored, who want to be associated with something larger than themselves so as to imbue themselves with some reflected significance and thereby gain attention.

I've seen several polls of young people and the results are remarkably consistent. Their dream is to be either famous themselves... or closely associated with someone famous - their entourage. That's the highest goal in their life, that's what they aspire to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:44 PM (39g3+)

137

Oh, here's my letter to Publix after they caved to Das Hoggenfhurher -

Dear CEO of Publix,

As a 30-year customer of yours, I was very disappointed to hear of your submission to the far-left Marxist David Hogg's childish demands concerning your corporate political contributions. You would have gained much support had you instead issued a statement that your company would not cave in to his outrageous demands and that he has no right to dictate any of your company's policies. Understand that Hogg and his media handlers would gladly put your company out of business if they could.

He does not represent the majority view in any way. His efforts to destroy our legal and human rights are very offensive to me, as they should be to you.

The NRA is not responsible for any school shootings. Blaming the NRA is akin to blaming AAA for a car accident. We should no longer tolerate these senseless attacks orchestrated by our domestic enemies. You had a wonderful opportunity to stand up to these bullies, yet you failed to do so.


Hope Pixy's hamsters don't eat the formatting.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 26, 2018 12:44 PM (GdWl+)

138 Capitalism will save all people eventually. Eell, all people except for close minded fools, like Eric Dyson.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 26, 2018 12:44 PM (iTqVJ)

139 In other words, if the subject matter does not involve "what's wrong with the world," and not every subject matter must, these are tolerable people.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 12:07 PM (cY3LT)


It's tough when they are family members.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 26, 2018 12:10 PM (H8QX


Yep. Family members, colleagues, even people I consider friends.

I view it like they have an illness, which I genuinely believe they do. It's a burden they carry, and it's unpleasant to be around sometimes. I think they carry it, often, not because they are bad people, but because they have been exposed to a viral plague, and they were particularly susceptible to it when they were so exposed.

I don't hate them for it. I don't treat them unkindly for it.

Now the viral perpetrators, that's a different story. Those people should burn in hell... and they will.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 12:45 PM (cY3LT)

140
Why is it always these coffee colored assholes the ones squawking the loudest about their "blackness"?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:41 PM (BRvh1)


They don't start out coffee colored .But the more you start to sound like John Edwards the lighter you get.

Posted by: #Fakenews at May 26, 2018 12:45 PM (10vO4)

141 136 Their dream is to be either famous themselves... or closely associated with someone famous - their entourage.


It's what their boomer parents have cultivated in them since birth.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 26, 2018 12:45 PM (vWMNq)

142 >>Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 26, 2018 12:44 PM (GdWl+)


You forgot to tell them to suck your dick.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:46 PM (QmRgE)

143 At the end of that sham debate the audience also decided that Dyson lost the plot. A greater percentage of the audience agreed with Jordan Peterson after the debate than before the debate.

Posted by: Decaf at May 26, 2018 12:47 PM (Jeu6Y)

144 You forgot to tell them to suck your dick.
Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:46 PM (QmRgE)

Also important to heavily imply *when* to do so, i.e. before all other things.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:47 PM (BRvh1)

145 Just checking, anyone know if Halper is no longer with us?

Who knows? He hasn't been seen or heard from for over a year. Lots of speculation but nobody knows except perhaps some at the FBI or CIA.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:18 PM (39g3+)

When Bill Casey was about to be questioned about Iran-Contra, he declined by having a fatal heart attack.

Let's see if Halper is that dedicated.

Posted by: Miklos, wishing well at May 26, 2018 12:48 PM (zCyNd)

146 >>Also important to heavily imply *when* to do so, i.e. before all other things.


If you are a slave to proper form, then yes.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:48 PM (QmRgE)

147 I've seen several polls of young people and the results are remarkably consistent. Their dream is to be either famous themselves... or closely associated with someone famous - their entourage. That's the highest goal in their life, that's what they aspire to.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:44 PM (39g3+)


Exactly. I think that that's a big driver of leftist politics.

Which I do not understand. What I really want? To be left alone, in peace, to get on with my life. Ignore me. Please.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:49 PM (G9//X)

148 Garden NOOD.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2018 12:49 PM (MVjcR)

149

You forgot to tell them to suck your dick.


That privilege is accorded only to The Empress, under penalty of Ravage.

Or a box full of emu.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 26, 2018 12:49 PM (GdWl+)

150 All I could here Dyson prattling "I'm black, I'm black, I'm black and you are white monsters".
Posted by: Decaf at May 26, 2018 12:43 PM (Jeu6Y)


Did he legit say, in so many words, that white people invented race? I backed it up and listened again and I could've sworn that's what he said. I couldn't find any larger context or anything to tie it to, like he could have just said it in a vacuum and believed it as a standalone statement. I could be wrong though!

That was the point that I stopped listening to any of the dumb words that came out of the mouth of his stupid ass-face and just skipped ahead to the Stephen Fry parts, which were basically the only reason I clicked the link in the first place.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:49 PM (y87Qq)

151 If you are a slave to proper form, then yes.
Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:48 PM (QmRgE)

Without the style guide, all is lost.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:50 PM (BRvh1)

152 'That privilege is accorded only to The Empress, under penalty of Ravage. '

MATCHBOX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiTPAyBsW-U

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 12:50 PM (QmRgE)

153 Question: at what point do we decide that blacks' failures are due to blacks' failings, and NOT due to the current laundry list of excuses?

And even more appositely, when do blacks reach that point?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (G9//X)

154 The Gardening Thread is up. Or you can stick around here if you would like to.

Posted by: KT at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (BVQ+1)

155
Did he legit say, in so many words, that white people invented race?

Why not? They invented everything else.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (IqV8l)

156 Sophistry is built around emotional appeal and making people impressed with what you sound like and seem to know rather than actual content and meaning.

Hence, the ironic "sophisticated."

Posted by: mindful webworker - Humpty's Dictionary at May 26, 2018 12:52 PM (XqXVp)

157 Them swarthy Greek homos stole melanin from Africa!!!

Posted by: The Rev. Al Sharpton! at May 26, 2018 12:53 PM (zCyNd)

158 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (G9//X)

That would be the point when white and blacks (and everyone else for that matter) realize that *A* black's failures are due to that persons failings alone.

Success has a thousand fathers, but failure is a nameless bastard. Or something like that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:53 PM (BRvh1)

159 Did insomniac stop posting?

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 12:53 PM (oxpQH)

160 BUT FIRST YOU WILL BLOW ME!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 26, 2018 12:54 PM (rnAwa)

161 Why not? They invented everything else.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (IqV8l)


Yeah, but white people were themselves invented by the black scientist Yakub 6,600 years ago, Quod Erat Demonfuckingstrandum.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:54 PM (y87Qq)

162
Question: at what point do we decide that blacks' failures are due to blacks' failings, and NOT due to the current laundry list of excuses?


As soon as blacks start voting republican in significant numbers it will dawn on the media that blacks create their own problems

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 26, 2018 12:55 PM (10vO4)

163 Did insomniac stop posting?
Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2018 12:53 PM (oxpQH)


Taking time off for personal reasons, last I heard. Going through some rough stuff and didn't want to mope around the threads. I think people have heard from him by email since.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:56 PM (y87Qq)

164 /one of those two memes is my favorite.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 12:56 PM (rnAwa)

165 dyson?... dyson?... dyson - oh, that guy. part of that first crop of ivy league black studies stars who arose in the 90's to explain how america = racism. holder is part of that academically accomplished cohort.

i heard dyson on his radio show by chance interview jay-z as the greatest living genius in the world. he meant it, which demonstrates:

- he knows nothing about genius.

- he is utterly provincial.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 26, 2018 12:12 PM (Pg+x7)

And 3 - he's black. Or mostly black.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 12:56 PM (9BLnV)

166 That would be the point when white and blacks (and everyone else for that matter) realize that *A* black's failures are due to that persons failings alone.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:53 PM (BRvh1)/i]

That would be the ideal, but we ARE talking about entire demographic groups here, thanks to the left.

So further to your point, at the same time whites and blacks would recognize that *A* white's success was due to his own efforts, and not to "white privilege."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (G9//X)

167 Question: at what point do we decide that blacks' failures are due to blacks' failings, and NOT due to the current laundry list of excuses?

And even more appositely, when do blacks reach that point?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:51 PM (G9//X)

When the black middle class--and above, those who HAVE achieved ---stop feeling guilty about their own success and do something to help those others instead of blaming white people?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (7uYFy)

168 If Black Americans ever began voting Republican in significant numbers, the Democrats would insist that their votes should only count as 3/5 of a vote.

Posted by: The Rev. Miklos at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (zCyNd)

169 Yeah, but white people were themselves invented by the black scientist Yakub 6,600 years ago, Quod Erat Demonfuckingstrandum.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 12:54 PM (y87Qq)


So it's HIS fault!

Btw, where did Yakub publish his results? Did he perhaps write a review article I could read?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:58 PM (G9//X)

170 168 If Black Americans ever began voting Republican in significant numbers, the Democrats would insist that their votes should only count as 3/5 of a vote.
Posted by: The Rev. Miklos at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (zCyNd)

Well they already insist that a Republican vote counts as 0/5 of a vote, so that would kinda be a step up in a way...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:59 PM (BRvh1)

171 I've seen several polls of young people and the results are remarkably consistent. Their dream is to be either famous themselves... or closely associated with someone famous - their entourage. That's the highest goal in their life, that's what they aspire to.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:44 PM (39g3+)

Exactly. I think that that's a big driver of leftist politics.

Which I do not understand. What I really want? To be left alone, in peace, to get on with my life. Ignore me. Please.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 12:49 PM (G9//X)


Imagine if you were the type of person who has no self-confidence, has no way of gauging by looking inside yourself, whether you are moving in the right direction with your life or not.

Imagine if some group came along, and told you they could do all that for you. Not only that, they could explain how everything that's wrong in your world is the fault of some grand conspiracy, being perpetrated by those people who otherwise appear to be succeeding.

Their success is due to them holding you down.

It's a profoundly attractive argument, and if you have NOTHING inside of you that tells you who you are, what your worth is, there's almost no way to resist it.

If you have it inside you, you have no need for such nonsense.

That's one of our major dividing lines in this world. Those who do, and those who don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 01:00 PM (cY3LT)

172 1) Don't be a dick.
2) Some people are dicks.
3) Get over it.

I think that pretty much covers literally every socio-economic problem facing humanity today, or at least America. The rest is just details.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)

173 Well, just got the signal to get on with other things than hanging around the AoS water cooler with y'all.

Onward, full speed, through the fog....

Visit my blog. Hit the donation button. I still don't know if it works. :/

Posted by: mindful webworker - on with the show! at May 26, 2018 01:05 PM (XqXVp)

174 "Significant numbers" of blacks voting GOP - or even just not voting, if they were regular voters - would spell doom for the Dems. Their coastal/urban status would be further emphasized, and even that would shrink a bit.


Trump's approval #s with blacks, esp. black males, are quite ominous (among other ominous things) for the Dems.


Farrakhan jumping aboard the Trump train is most of all amusing, given his whackjob racist fringe status. But it might, *might* be another indicator. If his posturing is in any way related to rumblings from below ......

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2018 01:06 PM (QDnY+)

175 "how little the Left cares about clarity of language"

Oh they care a lot. They are masters of deceptive labeling, categorization and goal-post moving. You call it a bug, they call it a feature. Review the NewSpeak material in the novel 1984.

Posted by: gp at May 26, 2018 01:06 PM (mk9aG)

176 and that to ask for specifics, actual points that might be discussed and tested, is itself a sign of "white privilege," especially when such questions are asked with "lethal intensity."
Kafkatrap!

========

The notion of "systemic" or societal wrongdoing is bullshit. The only way to assess wrongdoing is on an individual, case by case basis.

If there is widespread wrongdoing that conforms to a pattern, you've still got to address it on a case by case basis. If you try to address it in general terms, you end up with a cure that is worse than the disease.

And the beneficiaries continue on to be whiny, ungrateful dishonest hucksters who try to prolong the claims of grievances. So for instance, feminists complaining about the higher cost of clothes and lack of free birth control.

It's tempting to say that any injustices against particular "groups" should have been allowed to go on. If you knew that Dahmer were unjustly accused of a particular murder, it might be better to let that injustice happen and do nothing, since if he's released, you know he'll be free to murder other people. What's the use of "group" justice if that group will act worse than the so called "oppressors" (who were morally sensitive enough to give the group a hearing in the first place)?

These are the dark thoughts that leftists have been causing me to think lately.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 01:09 PM (/qEW2)

177 If Black Americans ever began voting Republican in significant numbers, the Democrats would insist that their votes should only count as 3/5 of a vote.
Posted by: The Rev. Miklos at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (zCyNd)

Well they already insist that a Republican vote counts as 0/5 of a vote, so that would kinda be a step up in a way...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 12:59 PM (BRvh1)


========

Democrat votes typically count as (Al Franken's trunk)/1 of a vote.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 01:13 PM (/qEW2)

178 These are the dark thoughts that leftists have been causing me to think lately.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 01:09 PM (/qEW2)

If you knowingly start with a set of false axioms (call it "Progressivism" writ large), it can't be any wonder that you arrive at absurd results.

In fact, the absurd results are literally indirect proof that the axioms are false.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 01:19 PM (BRvh1)

179 Trump Signs Executive Orders to Speed Up Firing of "Poor Performing" Federal Workers


breitbart.com


Love PDT(No Homo)

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 26, 2018 01:20 PM (r9UYA)

180 off gay sock

Posted by: Under Fire at May 26, 2018 01:21 PM (r9UYA)

181 scott johnson's review at power line contains this line, which is oddly appropriate here:

"only 90 minutes long, the film began to grate as we rounded the corner into minute 2."
Posted by: musical jolly chimp


Not sure what Scott expected.

"A feel-good com-rom romp through the double-oughts with a cameo by Pitbull"?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 26, 2018 01:22 PM (zfrbv)

182 "A feel-good com-rom romp through the double-oughts with a cameo by Pitbull"?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 26, 2018 01:22 PM (zfrbv)

I know we call Mooch some nasty things on these pages, but I think "Pitbull" is a bit beyond the pale, honestly....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 01:23 PM (BRvh1)

183 Gerardo > Pitbull

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM (QmRgE)

184 OK, yardwork is done. Let the weekend begin!

Some neighborhood kids were chasing their Siberian Husky who escaped. He trotted past me on the sidewalk. Those are nice dogs. I hope they caught him.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 01:24 PM (sdi6R)

185 >>Those are nice dogs


If you like chasing runaway dogs, hard to beat a malmute.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:25 PM (QmRgE)

186 I watched an hour of the debate. I got fed up as after watching for an hour nothing was said by Goldberg or Dyson that required any sort of internal thought or analysis.
Shit the way Dyson was speaking I thought dude was gonna break out into a straight up battle rap freestyle. I would have watched that.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 26, 2018 01:25 PM (IYHxL)

187 Gerardo > Geraldo

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2018 01:26 PM (rnAwa)

188 In college I compiled a semi-formal list of Dogs that if a chick owned one, I would not date her.

Malmutes are on there.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (QmRgE)

189 I watched an hour of the debate. I got fed up as after watching for an hour nothing was said by Goldberg or Dyson that required any sort of internal thought or analysis.

Interestingly, Goldberg seems untroubled by her "white privilege."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (G9//X)

190 When the black middle class--and above, those who HAVE achieved ---stop feeling guilty about their own success and do something to help those others instead of blaming white people?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (7uYFy)

Guilty? What kinda racisss claptrap is dat? De only time I feels da need to help others is when dey tells me what de gonna gibs me. Preferably Benjamins, although Grants and Jacksons be OK, too!

As an aside, some of the biggest slaveholders in the South were black. I wonder why they didn't help their bruthas?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (9BLnV)

191 also, any dog without a tail that achieved 100% butthole occlusion.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:29 PM (QmRgE)

192 When the black middle class--and above, those who HAVE achieved ---stop feeling guilty about their own success and do something to help those others instead of blaming white people?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (7uYFy)

Guilty? What kinda racisss claptrap is dat? De only time I feels da need to help others is when dey tells me what de gonna gibs me. Preferably Benjamins, although Grants and Jacksons be OK, too!

As an aside, some of the biggest slaveholders in the South were black. I wonder why they didn't help their bruthas?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (9BLnV)

You already stated the answer in your second paragraph.....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:30 PM (7uYFy)

193 When the black middle class--and above, those who HAVE achieved ---stop feeling guilty about their own success and do something to help those others instead of blaming white people?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 12:57 PM (7uYFy)


How about everybody helps himself? First come, first served, the devil take the hindmost?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 26, 2018 01:31 PM (G9//X)

194 Trump Signs Executive Orders to Speed Up Firing of "Poor Performing" Federal Workers


breitbart.com


Love PDT(No Homo)
Posted by: Shep Smith at May 26, 2018 01:20 PM (r9UYA)

This will explode after the holiday weekend....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:31 PM (7uYFy)

195 https://preview.tinyurl.com/kgzgutu

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books!


That was an interesting read.

Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at May 26, 2018 01:34 PM (AoK0a)

196 Oh they care a lot. They are masters of deceptive labeling, categorization and goal-post moving. You call it a bug, they call it a feature. Review the NewSpeak material in the novel 1984.
Posted by: gp at May 26, 2018 01:06 PM (mk9aG)

And who was erected in 1984? That rayciss bee movie acter Ronald Raygun. It's his fault!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein at May 26, 2018 01:35 PM (7uYFy)

197 Trump Signs Executive Orders to Speed Up Firing of "Poor Performing" Federal Workers


breitbart.com


Love PDT(No Homo)
Posted by: Shep Smith at May 26, 2018 01:20 PM (r9UYA)

If this goes through, my only hope is that the Deep State doesn't use this as a way to get rid of the few remaining conservative federal workers....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:37 PM (7uYFy)

198 In college I compiled a semi-formal list of Dogs that if a chick owned one, I would not date her.

Malmutes are on there.
Posted by: garrett


What about a girl w/2 camels?

youtube
camelsandfriends
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the Pet Critic ... at May 26, 2018 01:37 PM (AoK0a)

199 >>What about a girl w/2 camels?


How many humps? Total.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:38 PM (QmRgE)

200 In college I compiled a semi-formal list of Dogs that if a chick owned one, I would not date her.

Malmutes are on there.
Posted by: garrett

What about a girl with two camels?
Posted by: Adriane the Pet Critic ... at May 26, 2018 01:37 PM (AoK0a)

Two humps?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:38 PM (7uYFy)

201 Also, any chick with more than 1 species of animal as pets.

Out.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:39 PM (QmRgE)

202 Race baitin'. It's one hell of a lucrative gig!

Posted by: Michael "Dog Whistle" Dyson at May 26, 2018 01:40 PM (Tyii7)

203 You want racial harmony? Well screw you.

Posted by: Michael "Dog Whistle" Dyson at May 26, 2018 01:44 PM (Tyii7)

204 188 In college I compiled a semi-formal list of Dogs that if a chick owned one, I would not date her.

Malmutes are on there.
Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:27 PM (QmRgE)


That doesn't seem to be the sort of dog one would have in a college dorm.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 01:45 PM (sdi6R)

205 Also, any chick with more than 1 species of animal as pets.

Out.
Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:39 PM (QmRgE)

Hard to believe but many "cat ladies" were actually quite hot when they were younger.
I'm old enough to remember some "before and afters."

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:46 PM (7uYFy)

206
202 Race baitin'. It's one hell of a lucrative gig!
Posted by: Michael "Dog Whistle" Dyson at May 26, 2018 01:40 PM (Tyii7)

Meme time:

animated .gif of Dyson, with the caption: "Go away. Race 'baitin".

I'm for too stoopid to know how to make that happen. So somebody else get on it, stat!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 01:47 PM (BRvh1)

207 My last two girlfriends had pomeranians.
What does this mean?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:47 PM (7uYFy)

208 Manufactured hatred makes the world go 'round, baby.

Posted by: Michael "Dog Whistle" Dyson at May 26, 2018 01:48 PM (Tyii7)

209 What ard chances of getting the cost of that $70,000 conference table out of McCabe's pention?

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 01:51 PM (aC6Sd)

210 My last two girlfriends had pomeranians.
What does this mean?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:47 PM (7uYFy)


Pomeranians can never be cured, but they can be controlled with medication and diet.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 01:51 PM (y87Qq)

211 I don't care for her feminist twaddle, but Michelle Goldberg is not bad looking. I like that hairstyle.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 01:54 PM (sdi6R)

212 tablet sign-in

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 01:55 PM (Evws/)

213 Pomeranians can never be cured, but they can be controlled with medication and diet.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 01:51 PM (y87Qq)

Lol. What was hysterical was the male pomeranian the one girlfriend had---he had a HUGE penis.....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:58 PM (7uYFy)

214 197 If this goes through, my only hope is that the Deep State doesn't use this as a way to get rid of the few remaining conservative federal workers....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:37 PM (7uYFy)


Interesting point. Hopefully I'm safe since I primarily run in an engineering crowd which has far less lefty stink than, say, HR or contracts.

Though said crowd comprises a lot of smart and hard-working folks, I personally know of one guy who fits the "worthless gubmint worker who would've been fired years ago in the private sector" description to a T. I'm interesting in reading the EO and will be following up with his supervisor in the coming weeks.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 26, 2018 01:58 PM (NL6wI)

215 201 Also, any chick with more than 1 species of animal as pets.

Out.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2018 01:39 PM (QmRgE)


Aw, c'mon. Despite what Venkman says, dogs and cats living together doesn't result in mass hysteria.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 26, 2018 02:00 PM (NL6wI)

216 Lol. What was hysterical was the male pomeranian the one girlfriend had---he had a HUGE penis.....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:58 PM (7uYFy)

Knotting.

Posted by: Pickles at May 26, 2018 02:00 PM (96C7R)

217 he had a HUGE penis.....
-----
Was he ship's dog of the good ship Venus?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 02:03 PM (Evws/)

218 My last two girlfriends had pomeranians.
What does this mean?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 01:47 PM (7uYFy)


You might want to get checked for Pomeranians before your next girlfriend ends up suffering the same fate.

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at May 26, 2018 02:06 PM (oVSFn)

219 Love PDT(No Homo)

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 26, 2018 01:20 PM (r9UYA)
-----
Greatest irony on the internet today.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 02:06 PM (Evws/)

220 I had the misfortune of for 7 years working for a man who wanted the organization to read + discuss a book by Michael Eric Dyson.

Apparently no one came to the discussions so he tried rescheduling them later in the year.

Posted by: Rick67 at May 26, 2018 02:07 PM (tzgR3)

221 Aw, c'mon. Despite what Venkman says, dogs and cats living together doesn't result in mass hysteria.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 26, 2018 02:00 PM (NL6wI)

They usually get along just fine. But the few exceptions can get ugly.
And messy.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2018 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

222 220 I had the misfortune of for 7 years working for a man who wanted the organization to read + discuss a book by Michael Eric Dyson.

Apparently no one came to the discussions so he tried rescheduling them later in the year.
Posted by: Rick67 at May 26, 2018 02:07 PM (tzgR3)


It would be funny if he had to keep rescheduling them for 7 years.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 02:09 PM (sdi6R)

223 Freeman >>> Michael Eric.

Wondered if the two were somehow distantly related, but it doesn't appear so. But just a cursory glance at the Curricula Vitae of them both is just astonishing.

The only thing the two seem to have in common is a professional connection to Princeton.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 02:17 PM (BRvh1)

224 I personally know of one guy who fits the "worthless gubmint worker who would've been fired years ago in the private sector" description to a T. I'm interesting in reading the EO and will be following up with his supervisor in the coming weeks.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 26, 2018 01:58 PM (NL6wI)


President Trump is from the private sector; he expects results.

Posted by: Doctor Venkman, Ghostbuster and man about town at May 26, 2018 02:17 PM (5Yee7)

225 US citizen imprisoned in Caracas for two years on weapons trafficking charges released.

https://tinyurl.com/ybo5nc6z

Not sure how I feel about this.

The 26-year-old Holt had gone to Venezuela in June 2016 to marry a woman he met online while he was looking for Spanish-speaking Mormons to help him improve his Spanish.

Aren't there easier ways to improve your Spanish than travelling to Venezuela to marry someone you met on line?

Sounds like this guy was just trying to bring Venezuelans into the US (many Mormons are open borders), in which case, I wish they'd have kept him.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 02:23 PM (/qEW2)

226 Sounds like this guy was just trying to bring Venezuelans into the US (many Mormons are open borders), in which case, I wish they'd have kept him.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 02:23 PM (/qEW2)

Take the guns. Leave the Spagnioli.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 26, 2018 02:24 PM (BRvh1)

227 Pretty quiet here today.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 02:35 PM (sdi6R)

228 Fooking storm track.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 02:38 PM (lLeln)

229 Soylo going down faster than Monica Lewinsky on a box of cigars. I watched the Ethan Sciver review. Yeah, the SJW bullshit touches would definitely outweigh the good moments, yeah.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 02:38 PM (/qEW2)

230 @229

I've got his "Tears of Soy LIVE" video playing in the background while I clean up my sty.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 26, 2018 02:43 PM (NL6wI)

231 Lol, Drudge's headline "Kim And Moon Back At It" with the photo of them embracing. Is he insinuating something?

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 02:43 PM (sdi6R)

232 Matt Drudge is like Anderson "Teabag" Cooper. There's almost nothing he likes more than to make homo jokes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2018 02:48 PM (6FqZa)

233 >>>Lol, Drudge's headline "Kim And Moon Back At It" with the photo of them embracing. Is he insinuating something?

You know the rumors about Drudge. A lot of gay activists like to "promote" as many people into their ranks as they can. Often posthumously.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 02:48 PM (/qEW2)

234 pets nood

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM (Evws/)

235 Always found it rather sad that the fact that the muz are still conducting slave auctions doesn't even seem to come up in the discussion. I guess #muzPrivilege is a potentially divisive topic.

They don't talk about it because there's no money in it.

Posted by: socratease at May 26, 2018 03:00 PM (2GbWn)

236 You know the rumors about Drudge. A lot of gay activists like to "promote" as many people into their ranks as they can. Often posthumously.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 02:48 PM (/qEW2)
----------------------

Found a site -TheLibertyBell.com that bills itself as the conservative Drudge. It has more links that interest me and fewer Woman eats dog food in street links.

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 03:26 PM (bxu2Y)

237 236 going to take a look

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 04:07 PM (aC6Sd)

238 The entire arsenal of the verbal left is meant to obscure meaning, not to clarify it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 04:09 PM (yQpMk)

239 In other formulation, the Right succeeds to the extent that they can make their ambitions known, the Left succeeds to the extent that they are able to hide theirs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 04:10 PM (yQpMk)

240 In other formulation, the Right succeeds to the extent that they can make their ambitions known, the Left succeeds to the extent that they are able to hide theirs.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 26, 2018 04:10 PM (yQpMk)


========

It's so nice that we're not living in the past when the Right was unwilling to fight to make its ambitions known, when an asshat like Joe Biden could say "they want to put y'all back in chains!" and go unchallenged. Now we call bullshit and assert our ambition is simply MAGA.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 26, 2018 04:14 PM (/qEW2)

241 67 ...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2018 12:09 PM (39g3+)

Almost right. But it's not simply a lack of training which makes them irrational. Irrationality is a core element of postmodern neo-Marxism. (Actually, the original really, if you pushed them, also rejected reason. But not so openly.) They really do deny that reason and language are meaningless. To them, the only use for language is power.

Posted by: George LeS at May 26, 2018 04:15 PM (59GGI)

242 >>> Found a site -TheLibertyBell.com that bills itself as the conservative Drudge. It has more links that interest me and fewer Woman eats dog food in street links.

I think the correct address is theLibertyDaily.com

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2018 04:32 PM (cHbmY)

243 Watched the whole thing. Peterson was Peterson, and clearly the star of the show. Which is why they have to demonize him.

Frye was like always, an aesthete who thinks himself an intellectual. That usage seems to date from about the 30's. At least, Evelyn Waugh objected to the loss of intellect in the meaning of "intellectual".

Goldberg was mostly lefty-fem pabulum, except for lying about Peterson. I wish we could organize the way they do, and concentrate fire on a particular lefty who crosses the line, forcing them to address cases of blatant dishonesty. Then on to another. Not that Goldberg is high-profile enough to be chosen. But if we could discredit a few like that, it'd go a long way to making the world better. But we live in such a target-rich environment it would take actual coordination; today we are too scattershot, with one hitting Pelosi, another Tapper, another Comey, etc.

Dyson was appalling. He did, twice and only twice, show a near-human intelligence. First, his high point was when he at least did acknowledge that others had slaves, but tried to deflect by pointing out that the Greeks' version wasn't racially based. The only thing he said which might have been worth discussing. (Really, are Arabs black?)

The 2nd was when he pretty clearly realized that he'd lost the audience with the "mean, mad white man" line. Note that he soon afterwards tried to justify it. But of course he wasn't smart enough to deflect.

Posted by: George LeS at May 26, 2018 04:33 PM (59GGI)

244 Two points about slavery:

1. It is almost never mentioned that W Europe started moving away from it long before the 19th C. It was dying out in the Middle Ages, from most of the continent. (Please don't confuse serfs with slaves - the differences are very important.) It actually returned in the early modern era, the period of Renaissance and Enlightenment. Serfdom too had been dying, and became more burdensome (where it survived) in the same period. The reasons are complex and debatable, but one factor was surely the increasing classicism of the culture; if you imitate the Romans in as much as possible, that will be included.

2. There were a few places which didn't abandon it, and the most important was in Iberia, where it was simply impossible to stop people from enslaving captives when cheek by jowl with Moslems who did the same to you. And it was Iberia which started the European expansion, worldwide. Note that the American Indians were NOT supposed to be enslaved. But moving around Africa to India, it's not clear they really grasped who wasn't Moslem. Da Gama actually thought that Hindus must be some sort of heretical Christians.

But of course, the Moslem world has never abandoned the idea.

One further point: the Barbary states were able to continue their slave raids in part because the European naval powers were in such constant war among themselves. We Americans tend to regard them as pussies for paying tribute. But really, at the time, it made no strategic sense to alienate people with ports and food, and fight another enemy. Funny that after 1815, when Brits and French and Dutch and all the rest could cooperate, the shit hit the fan for the paynim. No doubt that was racism too.

Posted by: George LeS at May 26, 2018 04:46 PM (59GGI)

245 You'd think at least one leftist would have an epiphany that their hatred of open debate, their love of censorship and the speed which they threaten violence, if not actual violence, that their positions are indefensible.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 26, 2018 04:57 PM (eAMlh)

246 that bills itself as the conservative Drudge. It has more links that interest me and fewer Woman eats dog food in street links.

I think the correct address is theLibertyDaily.com

Posted by: fluffy
--------------------------

You're so right, I must have been projecting.

theLibertyDaily.com

Posted by: gNewt at May 26, 2018 05:12 PM (bxu2Y)

247 "...how little the Left cares about clarity of language."

It's much worse than that. For the Left, clarity of language is their mortal enemy, and the first thing they try to wreck in a discussion.

This was immortalized in Orwell's "Newspeak," where it was fully recognized that control over language is control over almost everything else.

Posted by: MW at May 26, 2018 05:31 PM (wNx6K)

248 @247:

Exactly. Objective reality and its messenger, language, are enemies of the Left. Most of us no longer give a shit what they say or think because it's not moored in truth. We need a divorce.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 26, 2018 07:49 PM (TGW2f)

Weird News Dump

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Good morning little 'rons and 'ettes. Happy Memorial Day weekend Saturday.

*****

Let us take a peak at a few things that didn't get too much if any attention here at the AoSHQ this past week.

Have a fun time with these stories or something else in this open thread. Play nice with one another, no running with sharp objects and have a safe and fun weekend!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:30 AM




Comments

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1 Hah!
Today is NOT going to be a disaster.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 26, 2018 08:21 AM (roQNm)

2 testing and hoping sock is off.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 26, 2018 08:22 AM (3Pma+)

3
.. short of being involved in a car wreck, or falling down dead from a heart attack.

Things are going to GET DONE today!

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 26, 2018 08:24 AM (roQNm)

4
Just as soon as the trash man gets here and opens the transfer station so I can unload these bags of trash.

Any time now

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 26, 2018 08:25 AM (roQNm)

5 Not sure it solves, but it can't hurt

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:26 AM (aC6Sd)

6
Staying positive, even though I have to drive to the other side of town, seventy miles round trip.

I've got a list, a plan, and it's gonna happen according to plan.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 26, 2018 08:28 AM (roQNm)

7 Racing this weekend! Charlotte and Indy.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 08:29 AM (JFO2v)

8 As I understand it, Kweef is calling balls and strikes, and Max Boot will do the color.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 26, 2018 08:29 AM (Jj+59)

9
I have a good friend in Washington DC, who is in the know about these things and he tells that the thing that the bulky coats are hiding on Hillary!'s back is-


a large tick. I mean really large. A YUUUGE example of the order Ixodida. Like 33 lbs of tick.

Apparently, it attached itself years ago and has merged with Hillary! to form HillarTick. though it prefer the name, Daisy Longsucking.

They can't remove the tick because Hillary!'s blood supply is now 98% Lyme Disease Virus.

The Tick is said to be the dominant personality of HillarTick, which explains a lot.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 08:29 AM (9q7Dl)

10 Speaking of coffee it seems from listening to the Chris Stigall show on Tuesday Starbucks reeducation camp for employees went from a all day, to 1/2 day to a hour or so.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:34 AM (aC6Sd)

11 Qualifying for the Monaco grand prix starts in 10 minutes, and while that is the most important thing in this race it isn't the only thing.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 08:37 AM (aC6Sd)

12 A friends daughter just got back from a rather extensive tour of China. (business) He takes pic of McD's. and she photographed a lot of McD's will there. I guess they aren't considered an important military target.

Posted by: Colin at May 26, 2018 08:37 AM (WMfT/)

13 Top twenty

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 26, 2018 08:37 AM (R5lpX)

14 Being Memorial Day weekend, I think it's time I reread Ace's Money for Sex Skankathon. It never gets old.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:38 AM (+Tibp)

15 10 I have the transcript

you you you, pointing a two white girls and a guy, BAAAD!
you you you pointing a MS13er, Tranny, and stoner, GOOODER!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 08:38 AM (JFO2v)

16 Q: Do you know how to identify the special Christmas tin of Alphabetti Spaghetti?


A: No 'L'

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 08:38 AM (mvenn)

17 14 what?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 08:39 AM (JFO2v)

18 Alphabetti spaghetti is fine as long as nobody takes a 'P'

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 08:39 AM (mvenn)

19 What was that old BW science fiction movie where the alien attached itself to you back and controlled you. Hillary?

Posted by: Colin at May 26, 2018 08:39 AM (WMfT/)

20 A: No 'L'

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 08:38 AM (mvenn)

iswydt

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 08:41 AM (0+nbW)

21 I wonder if the Dutch fake steak would meet Ace's Gainzz needs. Probably not, not low carb.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:45 AM (+Tibp)

22 Zontar the Thing from Venus...Might be the old movie where the alien attached itself you your back and controlled you. Hillary?

Posted by: Colin at May 26, 2018 08:45 AM (WMfT/)

23 Q: Do you know how to identify the special Christmas tin of Alphabetti Spaghetti?


A: No 'L'
-----
*groan*

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 08:46 AM (kufk0)

24 "Histrionic personality disorder".....sounds like someone I'd like to hang with.

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 08:46 AM (0+nbW)

25 Whatever happened to the old fashioned bike racks?


*******


Well apparently, according to the other story, they all had to be removed because people kept getting their beavers stuck.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 08:46 AM (mvenn)

26 "Waiter! There's a 'B' in my soup!"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 08:49 AM (mvenn)

27 Husband is taking me to the gun range. I'm going to try out a P365 to see what the hype is all about. Then he wants to pick some stuff up at Academy. I love my husband!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 08:49 AM (kufk0)

28 I can't eat Alphabetti Spaghetti


I'm allergic to "C" food

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 08:50 AM (mvenn)

29 The FBI had at least 2 spies in the opposition parties campaign. FUKN SPIES! The FBI is just a political goon farm!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 08:50 AM (JFO2v)

30 Muldoon in in rare form....watch out!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 08:51 AM (kufk0)

31 The FBI had at least 2 spies in the opposition parties campaign. FUKN SPIES! The FBI is just a political goon farm!
Posted by: rhennigantx

Who was the second? Was it Carter Page?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:53 AM (+Tibp)

32 Life = Good.
Even if I'm still banging down oxycodeine.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2018 08:54 AM (zkOmb)

33 Happy weekend everybody, wow a beaver for breakfast!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 26, 2018 08:54 AM (nWc4E)

34 Starbucks reeducation camp for employees went from a all day, to 1/2 day to a hour or so"

Yeah. Turns out some Charbucks stores managed to "skip" the entire farce. Go figure.

Oh, and Morning, y'all! Nice warm AM here, brisket is on, beer will be chilling soon...

Coffeeeeve and Shipley's. Is this heaven?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 26, 2018 08:54 AM (7LY+6)

35 I've been eating plant-based steak for years.

Cows eat plants, I eat cows.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2018 08:55 AM (fuK7c)

36 Muldoon, that was truly awful.

Bailing. Not only is Pixy dissing my weight, it's knocked me off four times this AM.

Thanks for the interesting stuff, MisHum. Later, horde.

Posted by: f/ass at May 26, 2018 08:55 AM (9Vruh)

37 Racing this weekend! Charlotte and Indy.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 08:29 AM (JFO2v)

Yeah, I get to drive through the pre race traffic in Charlotte and the post race traffic in Indianapolis all in the same day. Aren't I just the lucky fellow.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 26, 2018 08:56 AM (R5lpX)

38 Nothing like starting your Saturday with a coupla beaver stories.

Posted by: BluesFish at May 26, 2018 08:57 AM (5iPef)

39 So, does this new hip make my ass look big?

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2018 08:57 AM (zkOmb)

40
This new action movie looks like a koo-koo bananas version of the "Six Million Dollar Man".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=XyNlKTLUGgg


Only more splodey and splattery.


Should be fun. Call it the anti-Soylo.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 08:57 AM (9q7Dl)

41 So, if the FBI routinely spies on everyone, who were the informants in the Hillary campaign? Have they answered that yet?

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 26, 2018 08:57 AM (bZ7mE)

42 >>Being Memorial Day weekend, I think it's time I reread Ace's Money for Sex Skankathon. It never gets old.

Ah, that was the piece that got me started reading here daily.

And here I am, still here, and still 29.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 26, 2018 08:59 AM (mtfdF)

43 It looks like an old VW Microbus in the photo. They had a cargo version with fewer windows.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2018 08:59 AM (sdi6R)

44 I'll have a Big Mac and a side of Ming.

To go.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2018 08:59 AM (EoRCO)

45 In Philadelphia bike racks are alive and well, there are rent a bikes all over the city, no idea how they work.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:01 AM (aC6Sd)

46 I don't think the Florida town should apologize for the zombie thing. It was clearly a joke. A better response would be "We are happy to be able to change confirm that our broadcast system would indeed be able to reach residents in the case of a real emergency."

The problem, or part of it, is that schools insure that people have neither imagination or a sense of humor.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 09:02 AM (rp9xB)

47 Is it too early for pants?

Maybe after my second cup.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 26, 2018 09:02 AM (qJtVm)

48 So, if the FBI routinely spies on everyone, who were the informants in the Hillary campaign? Have they answered that yet?
----x--
^^^^this! How come no one has asked this question???

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 09:03 AM (kufk0)

49 Speaking of bike racks, a local small town police station has a bike rack out front that looks like handcuffs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:03 AM (+y/Ru)

50 I am certain that Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren et al will have no problem if the Trump administration inserts informers into their presidential campaigns, strictly for their protection of course.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 26, 2018 09:03 AM (nWc4E)

51 We were planning to camp in WV this weekend. Thunderstorms every day.

So we got a cabin. Off in a few hours.

Posted by: blaster at May 26, 2018 09:03 AM (jHrzU)

52 What's next, veggie chicken?

Not exactly.

Posted by: Human Chicken Hybrid at May 26, 2018 09:04 AM (UdKB7)

53 Bucket list item- see the Monaco Grand Prix in person at least once. Would be an amazing experience for this moron.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 26, 2018 09:04 AM (orE2c)

54 Being Memorial Day weekend, I think it's time I reread Ace's Money for Sex Skankathon. It never gets old. "

And still waiting for that sweet DC cash to roll in...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 26, 2018 09:05 AM (7LY+6)

55 Soooo, that plant-based "steak" is made of soy and wheat? Awesome job. Most food fetishists are sure they are allergic to gluten and, contrary to marketing, soy very much *does* have a taste of its own.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 09:05 AM (rp9xB)

56 Say what you may about vegetable-based simulated steak product, it's no boned rolled pig institutional meat food.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 09:06 AM (mvenn)

57 Wife asked if I had a billion dollars what I would do, told her sponsor a F-1 team and travel the world.
But for now got a emergency window repair at my mom and dad's house.

Rats.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2018 09:06 AM (aC6Sd)

58 a large tick. I mean really large. A YUUUGE example of the order Ixodida. Like 33 lbs of tick.

Are they sure it's not a Puppet Master? Operation Suntan is the only way to be sure.

Wait. Operation Suntan. Hillary. Ughhh. She's on her own.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 26, 2018 09:07 AM (brIR5)

59 Bike rack story is hilarious !

Reminds me of the Pipeline Integrity Management Program that was down the hall years ago ... they never acronymmed it for some reason.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 26, 2018 09:08 AM (xJrIn)

60 It never gets old. "

But the participants did. Mid to late 20s, now 40...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 26, 2018 09:08 AM (7LY+6)

61 I got a message in my Cheerios. It said "Ooooooo."

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 09:08 AM (ANIFC)

62 RI Red-

Your surgeon's name wasn't Oscar Goldman by any chance?

'Cause that would be cool if you had a bionic hip.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 26, 2018 09:09 AM (mvenn)

63 And here I am, still here, and still 29.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 26, 2018 08:59 AM (mtfdF)

Proof positive that reading the HQ keeps you young right?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 09:11 AM (rp9xB)

64 The problem, or part of it, is that schools insure that people have neither imagination or a sense of humor.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 09:02 AM (rp9xB)

The problem, or part of it, it that people DO have imagination and a sense of humor. It's just that their imagination and sense of humor are for shit.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 09:11 AM (9BLnV)

65 Prisoner's Log Day 45,
One thing we have noticed is that Captain Bill never hits the salad bar.
We are planning on our opportunity to strike at the desert bar at either 6:00 6:20, 6:30 7:00 or 11:00 or 11:15.


End Log

Posted by: Bill Kristol's Boat People at May 26, 2018 09:12 AM (7+qdf)

66 I knew being fat was good for you!!!

https://tinyurl.com/y8op667n

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2018 09:12 AM (kufk0)

67 I watched a few vids of some F1 practice at Monaco. Cured my nostalgia pretty quick.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 26, 2018 09:14 AM (RuIsu)

68 One thing we have noticed is that Captain Bill never hits the salad bar.
We are planning on our opportunity to strike at the desert bar at either 6:00 6:20, 6:30 7:00 or 11:00 or 11:15.


End Log
Posted by: Bill Kristol's Boat People at May 26, 2018 09:12 AM (7+qdf)

They have a bar with sand in it? Wouldn't that attract the wrong element?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 09:15 AM (9BLnV)

69 Husband is taking me to the gun range. I'm going to try out a P365 to see what the hype is all about.

-

Have a great time. That's probably my next concealed carry purchase years after deciding the search was over after buying and loving my Shield. The increase in capacity is very appealing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:15 AM (VgKNm)

70 Wife asked if I had a billion dollars what I would do, told her sponsor a F-1 team and travel the world.

-

What would you do after first year?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:17 AM (VgKNm)

71 So, if the FBI routinely spies on everyone, who were the informants in the Hillary campaign? Have they answered that yet?
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 26, 2018 08:57 AM (bZ7mE)



Because of her political reliability Hillz was allowed to monitor and report on herself.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 26, 2018 09:18 AM (2K6fY)

72 Who was the second? Was it Carter Page?
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 26, 2018 08:53 AM (+Tibp)

No sure! May have been CIA plant.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 09:18 AM (JFO2v)

73 Now that I think about it, you could probably run near the middle or just outside of the top five and make that billion last four or five years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:19 AM (VgKNm)

74 News that affects Heather Radish at the very least, she is very annoyed by it, Twitter has shut down a lot of cat-based accounts over the last couple of days. It affects me a little since I retweet knitting, cats, and anti-trafficking with Knit'n Kitten, but one of her cat's accounts was shut down.

The issue for her, and I guess many, is that when setting up the accounts they put bio info in as if it were the cat, most cats are under 14, and Twitter *just* decided to enforce that rule. I think the real news is that Twitter *wasn't* enforcing the rule previously. A British account got reinstated by sending Twitter a photo of the cat and its human, but I doubt Heather Radish wants to do that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 09:19 AM (rp9xB)

75 Fat, stupid and self righteous is the only way to go through life

Posted by: Billy Kristol, midget weirdo at May 26, 2018 09:20 AM (FTPVM)

76 @realDonaldTrump 8 minutes ago

Good news about the release of the American hostage from Venezuela. Should be landing in D.C. this evening and be in the White House, with his family, at about 7:00 P.M. The great people of Utah will be very happy!

Posted by: Tami at May 26, 2018 09:20 AM (Enq6K)

77
Plant steak?

No thanks.

I guarantee you that it tastes nothing like a real steak. Kinda like sucking on a beef bullion cube with A-1 sauce, I'll bet.

And texture...

C'mon, this is simply an human version of those "meaty" dog chews.


Sit up and beg for your human chew! Good boy!


Progtards - stop trying to make eating processed bugs and overly processed veggies and fake meat a thing!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

78 68
One thing we have noticed is that Captain Bill never hits the salad bar.

We are planning on our opportunity to strike at the desert bar at either 6:00 6:20, 6:30 7:00 or 11:00 or 11:15.





End Log

Posted by: Bill Kristol's Boat People at May 26, 2018 09:12 AM (7+qdf)



They have a bar with sand in it? Wouldn't that attract the wrong element?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 26, 2018 09:15 AM (9BLnV)

Prisoner's log Day 45 addendum,
We discovered a grammer natzi in our midst, we suspect him of being a spy for Captain Bill. When no one was looking we sent him over the rail.

End log.

Posted by: Bill Kristol's Boat People at May 26, 2018 09:21 AM (7+qdf)

79 Mornin' Horde. Wonder how the weather for the rest of my long weekend will be...

/checks storm track

FUUUUUUUUUU~

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 26, 2018 09:21 AM (lLeln)

80 41 So, if the FBI routinely spies on everyone, who were the informants in the Hillary campaign? Have they answered that yet?
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 26, 2018 08:57 AM (bZ7mE)

More importantly, why was not she PROTECTED from russians?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 09:21 AM (JFO2v)

81 The issue for her, and I guess many, is that when setting up the accounts they put bio info in as if it were the cat, most cats are under 14, and Twitter *just* decided to enforce that rule

-

Twitter has decided they want to be a serious platform for smart, serious people?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:21 AM (VgKNm)

82 My personal trainer is a black guy, born in the Bahamas and I believe he's lived in Africa as well.
He likes Donald Trump. I found it interesting he would get into a political conversation with a client, but I have dropped hints about how I'm conservative. I'm very careful in talking about politics with people I have a professional relationship with. But it was an interesting conversation.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 26, 2018 09:22 AM (nBr1j)

83 Wife asked if I had a billion dollars what I would do, told her sponsor a F-1 team and travel the world.

----Id spend most of it on liquor, gambling, and loose women.

Probably just waste the rest.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2018 09:22 AM (9rIkM)

84 61 I got a message in my Cheerios. It said "Ooooooo."
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 09:08 AM (ANIFC)

mine read o o O O O OOOOO

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 09:23 AM (JFO2v)

85 Sooo....Harv W. was arrested and bonded yesterday? Haven't seen much about it.

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 09:24 AM (0+nbW)

86 likes Donald Trump. I found it interesting he would get into a political conversation with a client, but I have dropped hints about how I'm conservative. I'm very careful in talking about politics with people I have a professional relationship with. But it was an interesting conversation.

Posted by: Northernlurker

-

A moron posted something similar about a Chinese person who is baffled by the hatred of Trump. He said something like, "I don't understand. Americans used to love strong men."

A good observation, and one that has the potential to destroy a nation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:25 AM (VgKNm)

87 Billion dollars = Jay Leno style garage and keepers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:27 AM (VgKNm)

88 Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:21 AM (VgKNm)

Who knows, hard to believe even they would be delusional enough to hope for that. The cats at least all the other stuff more bearable.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2018 09:29 AM (rp9xB)

89 Starbucks reeducation camp for employees went from a all day, to 1/2 day to a hour or so.

-
You racist honkeys need to die. There. I did it in under a minute.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:29 AM (+y/Ru)

90 A nice day to make a visit to the Gun Show at the Pasadena, TX Fairgrounds Auditorium.

Lookin' for an older Remington 870 Wingmaster. Of course, I'd be happy to consider any such offered up for sale by any SCUBA qualified Morons or 'Ettes, soon as they conduct the salvage operation from their nearest waterway.

Any Houston area Horde who might wanna meet up noonish, my email is at my nic, here.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 09:29 AM (QzJWU)

91 @realDonaldTrump 8 minutes ago

Good news about the release of the American hostage from Venezuela. Should be landing in D.C. this evening and be in the White House, with his family, at about 7:00 P.M. The great people of Utah will be very happy!

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The coyotes howl but the moon shines on.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 26, 2018 09:31 AM (+y/Ru)

92 Any Houston area Horde who might wanna meet up noonish, my email is at my nic, here.
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2018 09:29 AM (QzJWU)


I'm down, but it's a little out of my way. Meet halfway in STL maybe?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 26, 2018 09:33 AM (y87Qq)

93 The Tick is said to be the dominant personality of HillarTick, which explains a lot.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 08:29 AM (9q7Dl)


Nonsense. Nobody believes ticks are that avaricious and bloodthirsty.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 09:33 AM (cY3LT)

94 Good news about the release of the American hostage from Venezuela. Should be landing in D.C. this evening and be in the White House, with his family, at about 7:00 P.M. The great people of Utah will be very happy!

Geez, what can't Trump do?

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 26, 2018 09:34 AM (R5lpX)

95 I don't believe for one second that the designers of that bike rack didn't know exactly what they were creating.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 26, 2018 09:36 AM (IuYIh)

96 >>Proof positive that reading the HQ keeps you young right?

Hmm. I might need a refund.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 26, 2018 09:36 AM (mtfdF)

97 Sooo....Harv W. was arrested and bonded yesterday? Haven't seen much about it.

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 09:24 AM (0+nbW)



I think the reason is that Weinstein's lawyer's main talking point is that "HW didn't invent the casting couch" and that these "relationships were all consensual" and that the same thing happens all over Hollywood every day.

And he says this long and loudly and repeatedly.

Nobody in Hollywood or the rest of the media like their dirty laundry aired at all.

How can they be Our Betters if they're all revealed to be creepy rapists and pimps or gross grasping slatterns?

Very few innocents in that mix.

Though the few who appear to have stood up and maintained their self-respect like Mira Sorvino make all the rest look even worse.

And do the same hijinks extend to the news media?

I bet they do.

Probably, at this point they all wish HW would just go away or die or flee to France like Polanski.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 26, 2018 09:36 AM (9q7Dl)

98 Wife asked if I had a billion dollars what I would do

Two chicks at the same time, man.

Posted by: Lawrence at May 26, 2018 09:38 AM (tOsEd)

99 Sooo....Harv W. was arrested and bonded yesterday? Haven't seen much about it.

Posted by: BignJames at May 26, 2018 09:24 AM (0+nbW)

He was carrying a biography of Elia Kazan with him for all to see. Kazan famously "named names." This could get interesting.

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 09:39 AM (ANIFC)

100 I got a message in my Cheerios. It said "Ooooooo."
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2018 09:08 AM (ANIFC)

mine read o o O O O OOOOO
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 26, 2018 09:23 AM (JFO2v)


They make all sorts of Cheerios these days, it's hard to keep track. Fruity, honey nut, banana, chocolate, peanut butter. I must have gotten a box of Sexy Cheerios. Mine reads oo oo o o ooo ooooooo!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2018 09:40 AM (cY3LT)

101 Lookin' for an older Remington 870 Wingmaster

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Good luck in your search. I've got more expensive pieces, and more prestigious pieces, but my wingmaster is definitely my cold, dead hands piece. Love them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 26, 2018 09:40 AM (VgKNm)

102

Stopped for gas and coffee in Lake Jackson. A lady comes into the store wearing pajamas, a bathrobe and slippers. My times sicken me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2018 09:41 AM (BRQ+4)

103 >>>>Wife asked if I had a billion dollars what I would do

Get rid of the wife before she can get rid of you.

Posted by: It's Barry! at May 26, 2018 09:41 AM (Tf/vJ)

104 Let us take a peak (said the goddess Athena, snatching the top of a mountain as she strode toward Athens).