EMT 5/19/19

Is Scotch Saturdays a thing?

It sure seemed like a thing.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:01 AM (isI7q)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:01 AM (BbGew)

3 Why,,,

You dirty rat

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 06:03 AM (A3w0Q)

4 Good morning.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:03 AM (sdi6R)

5 Okay, that's enough excitement for this early and only half a cup down.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 06:06 AM (A3w0Q)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 06:07 AM (icuj/)

7 Welp, off to the supermarkey.

I hope my Life is insanity feels better soon

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 06:08 AM (icuj/)

8 Willowed:
From the NYT link in the comment I quoted in #737, I found this article about Venezuela:

https://tinyurl.com/y6f54uve

I did a word search for "socialism". "Phrase not found".

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:08 AM (sdi6R)

9 Good morning! Coffee is making and the birds are singing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:09 AM (AwVzI)

10 I still have a minute to go for coffee, and not started breakfast.
Not much out there for news.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:09 AM (BbGew)

11 Morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2019 06:10 AM (Tdp9I)

12 Good morning, good night, whatever it takes

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 19, 2019 06:11 AM (NMAzL)

13 High 80's today and tomorrow here,

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:12 AM (BbGew)

14 Thanks JT!

This too, shall pass....hopefully.

Heading home in abt an hour. Normally abt a 4 hour drive, but with the rain and the shape I'm in, (and travelling with mom) it may take longer.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 06:17 AM (vu/qe)

15
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:23 AM (tGyaf)

16 Coffee ?
Breakfast ?

These thoughts are ... intriguing ...

*wanders off, muttering to self*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:24 AM (isI7q)

17
At the airport to fly up to Baltimore to meet Her Majesty and drive Val and the triumphant Delilah home.

I get on a flying machine once a year, if that. Reminded every time how much I hate the whole experience.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:26 AM (tGyaf)

18 I installed Linux Mint on my Mac the other day and have been using the Firefox browser that came with it. I noticed some formatting problems when commenting here. If I quote a comment, it gains additional spaces between paragraphs, and my own comment doesn't have spaces between paragraphs unless I hit return two or three times.

I found that if I compose my comment in a plain text editor and then paste it in the comment window, it is formatted correctly. Something about the comment window doesn't play nice with Pixy. I also notice that it has the non-functional formatting buttons, which didn't appear at all in the Epic browser on the Mac OS.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:27 AM (sdi6R)

19 Traveling across time zones is a pain in the rear.

Well, time to hit the road again.

Greetings from beautiful OKC.

At least, I think it's beautiful and OKC.

Posted by: blaek - used road trip salesman at May 19, 2019 06:29 AM (GU7eD)

20 gonna be cool and rainy here for the next couple of days. Apparently the fallout from El Nino.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:30 AM (AwVzI)

21 Haven't been on a plane since before 9/11, no desire to go through that dog and pony show

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:31 AM (BbGew)

22 So what I'm saying is that I think it's more a Firefox than a Linux issue. Is anyone else using Firefox on a different platform?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:34 AM (sdi6R)

23 Good Morning.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 06:40 AM (JFO2v)

24
Well, on to boarding. Get to stand waiting while some land whale tries to stuff a grand piano into the overhead.
Plus, it looks like everyone in the world wants to fly to BWI this morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:40 AM (tGyaf)

25 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 19, 2019 06:42 AM (GwY6O)

26 I used to love flying when I was a kid. It became tiresome when I did it for work, but mostly because it was so frequent. After 9/11, it is just plain loathsome no thanks in part to the TSA.

Those fucksticks pulled my wife out of line because she had trail mix in her bag. She said the lady who gave her the 'pat down' was all up in her stuff, to the point that my wife asked her if she was gonna buy her dinner. I hate the TSA with the heat of a thousand suns.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:43 AM (AwVzI)

27
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:43 AM (AwVzI)

I have a couple of boxes of keto bars they pulled out and inspected.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:47 AM (tGyaf)

28 Paint by the numbers artiste G Bush saddled the peons with TSA.

Posted by: john doe at May 19, 2019 06:49 AM (WX+x0)

29 I love to fly as well, never had a bad experience internally or externally, love the scenery going by. Been from Europe to Hawaii and California and very small planes locally when I was a kid.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (BbGew)

30 I have a couple of boxes of keto bars they pulled out and inspected.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

When my wife was coming home from PA, they had to inspect the hell out of the Amish whoopie pies she had in her carry on.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (8ikIW)

31 It rained all day yesterday. Except it does not rain here in May. So it's kind of a crisis.

Dobroe ytro, horde.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (EZebt)

32 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:47 AM (tGyaf)

Zombie terrorist Euell Gibbons nods approvingly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (AwVzI)

33 But if you don't let the TSA molest you, the terrorists will win. It is our duty as Americans to submit to intrusive searches. Are you unpatriotic or something?

/s

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:53 AM (sdi6R)

34 But if you don't let the TSA molest you, the terrorists will win. It is our duty as Americans to submit to intrusive searches. Are you unpatriotic or something?

/s
Posted by: rickl

The last time thru the full body scanner and teleporter machine, I got pulled off because it was detecting something on my left leg and on my chest.

Get patted down there and finds nothing other then the buttons for my shirt and leg inside blue jeans. What the hell is that think looking for?
If the machine is supposed to find metallic objects, it sucks.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 06:57 AM (8ikIW)

35 Get patted down there and finds nothing other then
the buttons for my shirt and leg inside blue jeans. What the hell is
that think looking for?

If the machine is supposed to find metallic objects, it sucks.


Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 06:57 AM

---

The screws in my shoulder set off the thing and I get an extra pat down.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 06:59 AM (JUOKG)

36 rickl -

Linux Mint (18.3 Cinnamon 64 bit) & Firefox on a former Win7 laptop (Intel I5).

I don't get any of the weird effects you are seeing, but I think NoScript is part of that.
With scripts enabled I get the nonfunctioning toolbar.
I have never had the add-a-space-between-lines thing, though I see it happening to others here.
Manual paragraph spacing here, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:59 AM (isI7q)

37 I have to admit that other than flying business class, the best commercial flight I had was a trip from DFW to Cancun aboard Aero Mexico...AND it was post 9/11.

The flight was an older plane (a 727 with an analog cockpit) but it was clean and the in flight service was superlative. We had fresh sammiches, fresh coffee and flan for the inflight meal, served on real china with linen napkins and real silverware.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 07:00 AM (AwVzI)

38 TSA is makework theater for wannabe cops. They should all be at the Southern border manning machine gun nests.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:01 AM (UdKB7)

39
Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (zBaqJ)

40 But if you don't let the TSA molest you, the terrorists will win. It is our duty as Americans to submit to intrusive searches. Are you unpatriotic or something?

If you don't let us touch your penis, you are definitely a terrorist.

Posted by: TSA agents everywhere at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (AwVzI)

41 The screws in my shoulder set off the thing and I get an extra pat down.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Strange. I've got 6 screws in my ankle and it never shows that.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:05 AM (8ikIW)

42 38
TSA is makework theater for wannabe cops. They should all be at the Southern border manning machine gun nests.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:01 AM (UdKB7)


THIS.
Although we can only hope they're pointed in the right direction.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:06 AM (sdi6R)

43
The goon in the seat in front will, no doubt, slam the recline all the way back the second the wheels break the ground.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 07:07 AM (hVO90)

44 Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I glanced at the article. It seems he is of the obstruction camp because Trump! tried to get Mueller fired.
Was it written in the report "Today, Trump! tried to fire me"?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:08 AM (8ikIW)

45 36
rickl -



Linux Mint (18.3 Cinnamon 64 bit) Firefox on a former Win7 laptop (Intel I5).



I don't get any of the weird effects you are seeing, but I think NoScript is part of that.

With scripts enabled I get the nonfunctioning toolbar.

I have never had the add-a-space-between-lines thing, though I see it happening to others here.

Manual paragraph spacing here, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:59 AM (isI7q)


Thanks! I'll give that a try.

I have Linux Mint 19.1 on a MacPro desktop that's about 8-10 years old. I just installed it on Tuesday.
I just added Ghostery to block ads and trackers.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:09 AM (sdi6R)

46 Justin Amash is a humorless prick.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2019 07:09 AM (Xqo6t)

47 I quit drinking for 2019 and I must say, that after 40 or so years of pushing it, I find a definite re-alignment of my brain chemistry. I know it's not for everyone, but I'm astonished at the difference I find in my more measured and calm manner of reacting to the same old bullshit of life.

Posted by: Ass Chum at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM (Jj+59)

48 And you can see what I was talking about. I just typed the previous comment directly into the comment window.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM (sdi6R)

49 The goon in the seat in front will, no doubt, slam the recline all the way back the second the wheels break the ground.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I'm 6'9". The only way I can fly without any pain is in first class.
I'm thinking of joining some Americans With Disabilities lawsuit against the airlines.
They could claim they are a private enterprise etc etc. Then fine, let the airlines pay for and be in charge of the TSA.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM (8ikIW)

50 sunday morning

stillness.

eating home fries

listening to jack bruce, "consul at sunset"

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2019 07:11 AM (Pg+x7)

51
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe details) at May 19, 2019 07:12 AM (KCxzN)

52 Jerry Hyman's birthday today..

https://tinyurl.com/yyrnykmb

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 07:13 AM (PUmDY)

53 The screws in my shoulder set off the thing and I get an extra pat down.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman



Strange. I've got 6 screws in my ankle and it never shows that.


Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:05 AM

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Maybe it's the numbers. I have 29 screws in my shoulder.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (JUOKG)

54 I received the bonus TSA scrutiny almost every time I flew from '08 to '13. All my flights were "one way" is the excuse I got from on fellow. Meanwhile, an Uncle Sam tattoo got me past Homeland Security while commuting from St Thomas to St John. The Hatians under the dock didn't fair so well.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (DB16e)

55 Maybe it's the numbers. I have 29 screws in my shoulder.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

That could be it.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (8ikIW)

56 The last time I flew back from California I was so miserable I said I would never fly again. Now Mrs f'd says she want to go to Hawaii. How can I convince her that she doesn't want to go to Hawaii? I have to make it seem like she decided she doesn't want to go.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (UdKB7)

57
I know it's not for everyone, but I'm astonished at the difference I find in my more measured and calm manner of reacting to the same old bullshit of life.

Posted by: Ass Chum at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM


Amen. And it keeps getting better

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe details) at May 19, 2019 07:17 AM (KCxzN)

58 Now Mrs f'd says she want to go to Hawaii. How can I convince her that she doesn't want to go to Hawaii? I have to make it seem like she decided she doesn't want to go.
Posted by: freaked

Has she been there before?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:17 AM (8ikIW)

59
"Although we can only hope they're pointed in the right direction."

Yeah, at each other.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:17 AM (A3w0Q)

60 rickl - I run Ghostery too, also Privacy Badger and Flagfox.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:18 AM (isI7q)

61 I have a walking stick with an EGA on it. TSA has to scan it. Every. Cfukin. Time.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 07:19 AM (AwVzI)

62 I don't mind flying except trying to get my carry-on in the overhead bin. I'm 5'2" and seems no one ever wants to help me.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:20 AM (lwiT4)

63 Justin didn't sit through Sloppy Choppers speech
No new impeachment

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:20 AM (BbGew)

64 60 rickl - I run Ghostery too, also Privacy Badger and Flagfox.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:18 AM (isI7q)


Testing. I just added NoScript and the formatting buttons have disappeared.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:20 AM (sdi6R)

65 Seems to work!

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:21 AM (sdi6R)

66 I don't mind flying except trying to get my carry-on in the overhead bin. I'm 5'2" and seems no one ever wants to help me.
Posted by: grammie winger

I always help the "fun size" ladies

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:22 AM (8ikIW)

67 "Has she been there before?"

Yes, we went to Kaui. Went with family and stayed at a rented house. She enjoyed it, me not so much. I did read all of "Atlas Shrugged" while there.

I also lived on Oahu for three years when I was a kid, dad was stationed at Hickham. That was a long time ago.

What I need is a good volcano or outbreak of leprosy or something to change her mind.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:23 AM (UdKB7)

68 I should always fly with you, Bruce. It would make things so much more pleasant.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:24 AM (lwiT4)

69 And Justin thinks AG Barr is misrepresenting Mueller's report, well then it's all out there, underline the sentences and hold a press conference.
But then he probably hasn't read it yet.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:24 AM (BbGew)

70 And Justin thinks AG Barr is misrepresenting Mueller's report, well then it's all out there, underline the sentences and hold a press conference.
But then he probably hasn't read it yet.
Posted by: Skip

He says he's read it. Unlike the rest of his ne'r do well colleagues.
If they only read it, Trump! would be impeached tomorrow.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:26 AM (8ikIW)

71 Justin Amash has a few things taking away from his credibility.

He's co owner of Dynamic Source International, which is a Chinese company that supplies Michigan Industrial Tools and located in Hangzhou.

Seems to me he has a big bug in his ass about tariffs being supported by Trump....

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:28 AM (IfYaq)

72 Now if only I could get my e-mail set up. It keeps saying the password is wrong. I've tried every one I can think of.

It's been so long since I set up my e-mail accounts on the Mac that I don't remember whether they were passwords I made up myself or whether they were assigned by Comcast. Do I have to call Comcast for help?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:28 AM (sdi6R)

73 Bibi vows to put a Bible on the moon in Israel's next lunar attempt. Sure beats a rainbow flag.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:29 AM (lwiT4)

74 "But then he probably hasn't read it yet.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:24 AM (BbGew) "


Spot-on !
Between this and not reading bills before voting and so forth, I wonder if we haven't kindly provided (very!) gainful employment for four-hundred-and-odd functional illiterates.
Innumerate, too, just look at how they handle money !

*spits*
*repeatedly*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (isI7q)

75 I like going thru the TSA pat downs and such. I usually go thru two or three times before the Head Agent puts a stop to the fun.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (Z+IKu)

76 *spits*
*repeatedly*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Don't forget to hydrate

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (8ikIW)

77 Better take the Rev with ya grammie.
Bruce just said he's 6' 9".
If you sit with him you'll be needing neck rubs due to severe pain in your neck from looking up to talk to him.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:31 AM (A3w0Q)

78 And then fucking Drudge with the BIDEN RUNS TO THE MIDDLE headline. What a stooge. Seems like pre-Trump that headline would have been something a lot more skeptical. Not even skeptical, outright mocking, because I don't think anyone who has followed politics for any length of time credulously believes Joe Biden wants to govern from the middle. He wants the middle to elect him, shut up, pay taxes, and do what it's told.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 19, 2019 07:31 AM (6BOGe)

79 More on Amash:

Justin Amash's brother Jeff Amash is the President at Tekton Inc. and Michigan Industrial Tools.
Tekton & MIT claim their tools are made here, but in reality, they are made in China.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (IfYaq)

80 Was glancing through Justin's Twitter, in April he says he was going to read through Mueller's report carefully and see the nuances in between the sentences and comment then.
Was hoping for some good troll comments because he is a idiot.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (BbGew)

81 Better take the Rev with ya grammie.
Bruce just said he's 6' 9".
If you sit with him you'll be needing neck rubs due to severe pain in your neck from looking up to talk to him.
Posted by: teej

Neck rubs are all art of the service on Air Bruce

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (8ikIW)

82 Better take the Rev with ya grammie.

Bruce just said he's 6' 9".

If you sit with him you'll be needing neck rubs due to severe pain in your neck from looking up to talk to him.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:31 AM (A3w0Q)



6'9"? Why, he should go into the overhead bin-stuffing business!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

83 Time to get ready for church - see ya later, hordelings

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:34 AM (lwiT4)

84 I really feel sorry for those American citizens in Laredo and El Paso. Apparently they don't have the pull folks in Broward County and Palm Beach do.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:34 AM (UdKB7)

85 Pretty cool story and song...

https://tinyurl.com/y57zcxuy


https://tinyurl.com/y57zcxuy


Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 07:35 AM (PUmDY)

86 "he was going to read through Mueller's report carefully and see the nuances in between the sentences and comment then. "

SENTENCE 33 No evidence of collusion was found.

SENTENCE 34 Neither the Trump campaign nor the subsequent Administration have committed any acts of collusion.

Amash: "So you can see the nuance there, between those two sentences, where Mueller is clearly making a 'whacking off' motion as he rights, meaning he's being sarcastic."

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 19, 2019 07:35 AM (6BOGe)

87 "rights"

aw dude no

too early

should be writes, sorry

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (6BOGe)

88 Sheeesh, rickl, that one I can't help you with.

It sounds like the phone call is the only option, they should be able to do a reset, at least.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (isI7q)

89 >>Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment? This fucking turd disgusts me.




AMash is protecting his family's Chinese business:


https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/

1129879754570493952

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (W+vEI)

90 townhall.com/the alleged serial killer you may not have heard of yet and the medias astonishing bias
http://tinyurl.com/yxhftc6q
Heard this on radio Friday, illegal from Africa

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (BbGew)

91 6'9"? Why, he should go into the overhead bin-stuffing business!
Posted by: grammie winger

I have to duck to walk into the plane. The walk in the middle of the aisle, else an overhead bin door crack my skull.
Best part of first class is they will usually rustle me up a beer why the rest are boarding. Of course it's only a half of a beer. Evidently they feel I can't consume an entire 12 oz can in 15 minutes.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (8ikIW)

92 And then there's the company his father started in 1956, Amash Imports, which is when his family left Palestine for America. Amash Imports also operates under the name....Michigan Industrial Tools.

There's also a Charles Amash Imports Inc.

Also interesting - some time ago Amash was visited by the Consul General of China, Hong Lei, who was born in Zhejiang. Hm, that's where DSI is located....

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:37 AM (IfYaq)

93 And of course, my first laugh of the day goes to,, the envelope please,, ** rip ** grammie winger!!

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:37 AM (A3w0Q)

94 "Don't forget to hydrate

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (8ikIW) "


Good point, thanks !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:38 AM (isI7q)

95 For lots more, check out @BenKTallmadge.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:39 AM (IfYaq)

96 I'm sure the 12 votes Amash might get will change the course of the Nation.

Posted by: jsg at May 19, 2019 07:40 AM (WM2oO)

97 Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:08 AM (sdi6R)
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Interesting that, in that article, not once is Socialism named and shamed, just "poor policies".

I was heartened to see lots of pushback against against "It's Trump's fault".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 07:40 AM (kQs4Y)

98 'his family left Palestine for America. '

I think I see the problem here. And this guy claims to be a Republican? Oh yeah, Republicans are barely distinguishable from a pile of dog crap.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:40 AM (UdKB7)

99 >>> Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment? This fucking turd disgusts me.
>>>AMash is protecting his family's Chinese business:

https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/
1129879754570493952
~~~~~

He was also the only Republican in the House to vote against Kate's Law.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 19, 2019 07:41 AM (NtglE)

100 Yeah, Skip, that's quite the story.

Best part ?
Suspect in another 750 deaths.

Guy should be a hero to the "kill all the white people" crowd.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:42 AM (isI7q)

101 how many "screws" does it take to get thru LAX ,PAT?

well they are lookin' fer buttons and bows
and well boobed boobs
guys can pick the 12" or less line
shorties to the left of me
king kong to the right.

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 07:42 AM (5IHGB)

102 See if Sloppy Choppers takes Justin aside soon, she is trying to tamp down this impeachment talk.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:42 AM (BbGew)

103 Got garage rat. Yuck. Put new door bottom seal in too.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:44 AM (t1c4w)

104 >>Suspect in another 750 deaths.

Seriously?
This is the illegal alien from Kenya who's killing seniors, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 07:44 AM (W+vEI)

105 RE: Amish and his Made in China business...


Just got an idea... what if congress passed a "buy American" provision that required very large online retailers, *cough* Amazon *cough*, to keep database records of all products they sell by whether they were made in the USA.. and whenever they display an item for sale that is not, they be required to offer suggestions for any alternatives that are Made in the USA? Workable idea?

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (Xqo6t)

106 I wonder if that idiot, Cenk Uyger, knows he named his show "The Young Turks" after a group that led years of Christian genocide in Turkey? This article may be behind a paywall, but it summarizes a new book from Harvard detailing the thirty year campaign of rape, murder and deportation that reduced millions of Christians to practically none in formerly Greek areas of Turkey. Slave markets were common. Ah, but that's like a hundred years ago dude. Probably can't happen today.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4hh2ens

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (Z216Q)

107 Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (zBaqJ)


Go for it.

What better way to ensure another term?

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (ZfRYq)

108 Jack Posobiec: Justin Amash is the Jeff Flake of Louise Menches

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (IfYaq)

109 Go for it.

What better way to ensure another term?

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (ZfRYq)


What better way to get a unaccountable campaign contributions, aCNN gig, a lobbying job and A-List cocktail party invites?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 07:47 AM (3hr5B)

110 Okay, off to start the day.
Hope it's a good one for all.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:48 AM (8ikIW)

111 Justin Amash was all but expelled from the House GOP caucus years ago, as I recall. Boehner kicked the turd off his committee assignments. What I don't get is he represents Grand Rapids, and I always thought that area was conservative. Instead it seems to be very Rand Paul-ish, and Rand's brother is one of Amash's key supporters.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 07:48 AM (Z216Q)

112 What gender is a computer ?

https://tinyurl.com/y3tctf2f

Posted by: jsg at May 19, 2019 07:48 AM (WM2oO)

113 Biden seems to be wasting no time going into the gutter. PDT will chew him up and spit him out.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 07:50 AM (PUmDY)

114 'What gender is a computer ? '

Binary

Posted by: Hal at May 19, 2019 07:50 AM (UdKB7)

115 >>I wonder if that idiot, Cenk Uyger, knows he named his show "The Young Turks" after a group that led years of Christian genocide in Turkey?




Of course he does.
He also denies there was a Christian genocide in Armenia - says it's a "myth."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (W+vEI)

116 Does Mueller report ever explain that there is no crime called "collusion"?

I'm no legal expert but how can something that's not a crime be investigated as if it were a crime?

We're still not at peak stupid are we.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (t1c4w)

117 Remember when Walmart had the buy American thing. Was it Walmart or Sears? Its been sometime since I heard that.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (+0N+f)

118 Scotch Saturdays IS a thingy
So is Tequila Tuesday...and Whiskey Wednesday

Posted by: Dave A at May 19, 2019 07:53 AM (r21BT)

119 #115 lots of groups carry on in the name of others that committed mass murder.

Really odd that anyone can be attracted to slaughter.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:54 AM (t1c4w)

120 Just got an idea... what if congress passed a "buy American" provision that required very large online retailers, *cough* Amazon *cough*, to keep database records of all products they sell by whether they were made in the USA.. and whenever they display an item for sale that is not, they be required to offer suggestions for any alternatives that are Made in the USA? Workable idea?

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (Xqo6t)


J Bozos: "My good man it would be totally impossible to write software that could sort across millions of items like that and post specifics related to any current order!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 07:54 AM (3hr5B)

121 Attacks against 14-year-old Soph are ratcheting up. The mob is out for her.

https://tinyurl.com/yxwfsh85

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 07:56 AM (H8QX8)

122 Does Mueller report ever explain that there is no crime called "collusion"?

I'm no legal expert but how can something that's not a crime be investigated as if it were a crime?

We're still not at peak stupid are we.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (t1c4w)


Comrade, you are correct, BUT we are ahead of your. We invented the concept of administrative crime, out of whole cloth, and called it "Process Crime"!

Posted by: Zombie L Beria at May 19, 2019 07:57 AM (3hr5B)

123 Rain, again? Fortunately the doggehs got several hiking miles in yesterday, because (unless this rain stops), like the Byrds, we ain't going nowhere today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 07:57 AM (Z216Q)

124 Amash is getting his inner tlaib on.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:58 AM (ShAcG)

125 Does Mueller report ever explain that there is no crime called "collusion"?

I'm no legal expert but how can something that's not a crime be investigated as if it were a crime?

We're still not at peak stupid are we.
Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (t1c4w)


No, one of the Left's new tropes is "yeah, well collusion isn't a crime, Trump made up that word to trick you, so he can't really be "exonerated" of it because it isn't a crime."

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 07:59 AM (ZfRYq)

126 Not creating another expensive ,intrusive bureaucracy staffed mostly by mindless drones (Dems) dedicated to annoying and harassing normal Americans would be letting the terrorists win.


I'd happily go back to airport security the way it was pre-9/11 and take my 1 in 10,000,000 chance the plane get hijacked. Maybe same soldiers strolling around the airport with machine guns looking for suspicious characters (i.e not grandma) but that is all.

Posted by: Ripley at May 19, 2019 08:00 AM (NbRJx)

127 Going over to the local McD's as it is reopening after a rebuilt. It has a robot controlled fryer, one of the first at McD's. Along with the touch screens, and more automation to come. I wonder what Gov Cuomo thinks, time for another ban?

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (+0N+f)

128 Walmart had a buy American campaign?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (PUmDY)

129 Posted by: Zombie L Beria at May 19, 2019 07:57 AM (3hr5B)

Do away with administrative law; do away wioth administrative crime. Do away with administrative agencies and force congress to do their jobs.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (AwVzI)

130 Justin Amash's brother Jeff Amash is the President at Tekton Inc. and Michigan Industrial Tools.
Tekton & MIT claim their tools are made here, but in reality, they are made in China.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (IfYaq)


Amazon sells a metric crapton of Tekton junk.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (3hr5B)

131 >>>Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment? This fucking turd disgusts me.


Wasn't he shit out of a palestinian Hole?

Or, is it just his father who is an inbred muslim scumbag?

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:03 AM (qWZVz)

132 Do away with administrative law; do away wioth administrative crime. Do away with administrative agencies and force congress to do their jobs.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (AwVzI)


What, ask those lazy worthless bastards in Congress to do something for their money besides campaign for the next election?
Pshaw, sir, pshaw I say!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:03 AM (3hr5B)

133
Possibility that the reason Pelousy is tamping down the impeachment talk is that she is now actually controlled by the white hats?

That she has been shown they have "the goods" on her?

That that is the reason PDJT was talking her up for speaker?

No, I haven't seen that alluded to anywhere.
Just think it's a possibility.

Now keep in mind, it wasn't all that long ago that what is now referred to as the deep state was considered "crazy talk."

Consider...

Someone posts a picture in January of a watch, a very expensive watch that appears to be laying on a leather folder next to a presidential pen.
That watch is set to 3:15, I think it was.

A month or so later another watch set to I think 4:59.

I can go look up both to get em exact if needed.

Time passes and then, on Mar 15, at 4:59 AG Barr declares state of emergency.

And you have seen a good many of different things like that done over the past year or so.

Think it might make you at least consider the possibility that there is something to all this?

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:03 AM (A3w0Q)

134
Walmart had a buy American campaign?

Sure! The first time, anyway.

That's where Walmart gets its best ideas, and after that they supposedly just send the product to Chinese suppliers who make knock-offs. And (according to the stories) Walmart only buys the knockoffs from that point forward.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:04 AM (Z216Q)

135 88 Sheeesh, rickl, that one I can't help you with.

It sounds like the phone call is the only option, they should be able to do a reset, at least.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (isI7q)


Thanks for your help! You fixed my formatting problem.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:04 AM (sdi6R)

136 Since I fly out of a rather small airport and I have pre-check, its somewhat easier. They still yell at you if you do something wrong, like step over the line on the floor before being called. Still much better than ORD, what a zoo.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:05 AM (+0N+f)

137 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:05 AM (u82oZ)

138 "Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?..."

This just makes me laugh now. Go ahead -- do it. I'd love it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:05 AM (H8QX8)

139 Amash is getting his inner tlaib on.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:58 AM (ShAcG)

I thought the proper spelling was tlailiban?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (3hr5B)

140 Morning all...

The NYT is all butthurt...what's new huh?

@nytimesworld

Australians shrugged off the warming seas killing the Great Barrier Reef and the extreme drought punishing farmers. Why? https://nyti.ms/2VK064u by @damiencave

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (cF8AT)

141 22
So what I'm saying is that I think it's more a Firefox than a Linux issue. Is anyone else using Firefox on a different platform?


Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:34 AM (sdi6R)
I Firefox on Win10 - developer edition. It does wierd things too when copy/paste and I'm sure you've seen sometimes when I post the spacing is messed up.
Been experimenting with other browsers: Tor (variant of Firefox), Pale Moon, Waterfox (a good one), Brave and a few others.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (D3cJf)

142 teej

How has the rain affected the local lakes? We're getting close to spillway release here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

143 Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (cF8AT)

Another example of why this whole concept of letting the peasants vote is a huge mistake!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:09 AM (3hr5B)

144 We only consider flying if it will take more than a half day to drive. Between the expenses, the time (amazingly similar usually), and going through the security theater with a grumbling pre-teen, a can't-stand-still special needs son with more than a few unusual tendencies, and silly volume limits on toiletries, we've realized we'd rather drive and let the kids get a $10 toy or book at the halfway point as a reward for being good.

Not to mention stopping at zoos and lakes to skip stones and picnic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:10 AM (lPsvG)

145 This is an unsolicited endorsement of Sonos. I love the product. Hope it American.

Whenever I get ti in my head to listen to something, I find it, and get to listen. It doesn't matter what room I'm in, I have an inexpensive speaker connected to the system. If you like music and have a Spotify account (or similar), you can listen to literally anything just by picking up your phone and using the app.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:10 AM (Z216Q)

146 We only consider flying if it will take more than a half day to drive.


Time constraints are the only consideration for me for flying. I will pick driving every time. I hate being on someone else's schedule.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (uTY3H)

147 How has the rain affected the local lakes? We're getting close to spillway release here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

Living on the south shore of Lake Ontario, its "we are all going to die from GW time". It does have a lot to do with how much water is released into the St. Lawrence. Its a balancing act, and I do feel sorry for the people who live right on the lake shore. Sort of like building on a barrier reef along the Atlantic.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (+0N+f)

148 We only consider flying if it will take more than a half day to drive.

My rule too. I hate airports and flying is crazy expensive. Plus, in your car you're able to decide what to eat, and when, and where to stop, and can arrive exactly when you want to.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (Z216Q)

149 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:14 AM (cqNba)

150 Time constraints are the only consideration for me
for flying. I will pick driving every time. I hate being on someone
else's schedule.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (uTY3H)


Time for California's HS rail......./sarc

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:15 AM (+0N+f)

151 Too dad gummed high for me to get any crappie fishing in NaCly.

If they open the emergency spillway there I wonder if the geologists will once again be amazed at how much erosion takes place from that little bit of water.

At least a little bit compared to, say, the receding waters of a cataclysmic, world wide flood.

Hope you and the Mrs are well.
He her I said hi if you would.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:16 AM (A3w0Q)

152 nytimesworld

Australians shrugged off the warming seas killing the Great Barrier Reef and the extreme drought punishing farmers. Why? https://nyti.ms/2VK064u by @damiencave

So much condescension in so few words. Bravo!

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 08:17 AM (XROPS)

153 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top of the mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Hope your son aced his AW quals. This will help him be a rate grabber.

IIANM, you can wear more than one earned Warfare Qual these days. Next - ESWS? Lots of damage control in that qual.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:17 AM (u82oZ)

154 I asked this before on another thread and got the answer that I should throw out Apple products. Failing that, does anyone know a remedy or cause for periodic inability to post here with the message "internal 500 error?" Or something like that.

Posted by: AnnaS at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (hTPJO)

155 Time constraints are the only consideration for me for flying

-

That's kind how I personally am. I'm fortunate that my family LURVS them some staying in a hotel, so even a two day trip usually isn't a big deal. I don't know what it is about it but the kids view it as a big adventure.

I've also discovered that if I splurge a bit on the hotel that the wife stays much happier, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (lPsvG)

156 Tell her

Geez, juuuust a bit outside.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:19 AM (A3w0Q)

157 teej

Thank you. I sure will.

Big COE meeting this Wednesday. We do have some potentially threatened areas below the dam.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:19 AM (u82oZ)

158 Nice rain this morning. We needed it, as it hadn't rained in almost 36 hours in upstate New York.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 08:19 AM (ta49A)

159 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (D3cJf)

Finally got back to Pale Moon on Win 7 Pro, which seems to do what I want for the most part. I really liked a previous version of Brave, but the current version is hosed and not worth fixing.
Never heard of Waterfox, but I'll go look at it.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (3hr5B)

160 "House Democrats will hear from former CIA director John Brennan about the situation in Iran when he speaks next week at a private meeting amid heightened concerns over the Trump administration's sudden moves in the region. . ."


Obama admin people can't stay out of US-Iran relations. Wasn't Brennan's security clearance pulled?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (W+vEI)

161 Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines

So the No-Tell Motel and Motel 6 are right out?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (u82oZ)

162 re: what if congress passed a "buy American" provision
-------------

I say no, and will quote another commenter about a different subject:

Not creating another expensive ,intrusive bureaucracy staffed mostly by mindless drones (Dems) dedicated to annoying and harassing normal Americans would be letting the terrorists win.

Posted by: dDan at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (hwYmz)

163 I didn't watch Biden's re re launch speech yesterday, but I read somewhere he is very slow and babbles. If that's true, it's shameful to run for POTUS in that condition.

Posted by: jmel at May 19, 2019 08:21 AM (OeWgo)

164 >>Posted by: AnnaS at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (hTPJO)


Smart Punctuation is your problem.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:21 AM (qWZVz)

165 141
Firefox on Win10 - developer edition. It does wierd things too when copy/paste and I'm sure you've seen sometimes when I post the spacing is messed up.
Been experimenting with other browsers: Tor (variant of Firefox), Pale Moon, Waterfox (a good one), Brave and a few others.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (D3cJf)


I loaded NoScript as sock_rat_eez suggested and that fixed it right up.

I am planning to try other browsers eventually.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:22 AM (sdi6R)

166 >>Nice rain this morning. We needed it, as it hadn't rained in almost 36 hours in upstate New York.


I miss pizza from the Tinos.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:22 AM (qWZVz)

167 "IIANM, you can wear more than one earned Warfare Qual these days."

Sure can.

But truth be told, I could see an aviation rate possibly grabbing SW as well, like for instance during a long Carrier deployment.

But I have met many a knucklehead who has tried to collect every damn qualification out there. Perhaps to enhance their promotability.

And there seems to be an almost inverse relationship between the number of Quals they wear to their ability to master their primary rate.

They tend to have the largest list of collateral duties as well.

Usually involving diversity.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

168 I just realized the Stray Cats reunited.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:23 AM (PUmDY)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (5/18/19)

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Saturday Night's Alright For Baking


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The Saturday Night Joke


A man was telling his buddy : "You won't believe what happened last night."

My daughter walked into the living room and said : Dad, cancel my allowance immediately, forget my college tuition loan, rent my room out, throw all my clothes out the window, take my TV and my laptop.

Please take any of my jewelry to the Salvation Army or Cash Converters. Then sell my car, take my house key away, and throw me out.

Then disown me and never talk to me again. And don't forget to write me out of your will and leave my share to any charity you choose."

"Holy Smokes," replied the friend, " - she actually said that?"

"Well, she didn't put it quite like that. She actually said :

"Dad, meet my new boyfriend, Mohammed. We're going to work together on Elizabeth Warren’s Presidential Campaign." H/T “Blake - used vacation salesman.”

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The moose out front should have told you................


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It's the internet, is it true? Is it false? We here at The ONT have no clue. But, it is an interesting situation.

Man’s Parents Are Pissed He Reported Car Stolen After His Sister ‘Borrowed It’ Without Permission

Siblings can be the absolute worst sometimes—right? No matter how many times you tell them “no, you can’t borrow my shirt,” they’ll somehow walk out of the house with it on. They just don’t understand the word “no.”


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How was your vacation? Well, the accommodations sucked big time.

It seems that no matter how hard Airbnb’s staff tries to secure and guarantee a welcoming experience for their clients and hosts, the Internet still keeps on posting the most absurd and sometimes even scary Airbnb stories. In fact, there have been some really terrifying ones. Luckily, the one we have prepared for you today is more funny than bad and it does have a happy ending. But just like any other unsuccessful Airbnb story, this one does remind you to always read the reviews and check for the safest options on Airbnb because you never know when you might end up sleeping in a shipping container.

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My suggestion, for what it is worth. Don't forward this to any self-righteous "media" on Twitter. You might just find yourself suspended.

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Practice makes perfect, Unless you're a naked Florida man. Then you get arrested.

A Florida man caught playing basketball naked at a public park said he thought it would help improve his skills, according to police.

A park employee said he saw a man playing basketball while in the buff at Candyland Park in Longwood, Florida, Sunday evening and immediately contacted authorities.


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Tonight's Word of The Night is Vexatious

adjective
causing or tending to cause annoyance, frustration, or worry.
"the vexatious questions posed by software copyrights"
synonyms: annoying, vexing, irritating, irksome, displeasing, infuriating, maddening, exasperating, provoking, galling, rankling, grating, jarring, harassing, harrying, bothersome, tiresome, troublesome, niggling; More
LAW
denoting an action or the bringer of an action that is brought without sufficient grounds for winning, purely to cause annoyance to the defendant.


Yes, Mr. Christopher Fitzgibbon appears to be Vexatious and a possible Genius Award Winner.


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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, i don't see the beauty or have the $91 Million to buy it.

A 3-foot-tall silver bunny just set an art world record. Rabbit, by the playful and controversial artist Jeff Koons, sold for more than $91 million at Christie's Auction House — the most for work by a living artist at auction.

Robert Mnuchin, an art dealer and the father of the Treasury secretary, had the winning bid on behalf of a client.

The stainless steel sculpture is a faceless space bunny, a balloon that's not a balloon. The piece was one of 11 works that were offered from the collection of magazine publisher S.I. Newhouse, the longtime chairman of Condé Nast who died in 2017.


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One needs to complete a job application to become an armed fighter or a suicide bomber. Who knew Al-Qaeda has an HR Department?

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The ONT Musical Interlude


Young Uncle Teddy.......................


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The Gun Thread and The ONT Musical Interlude all wrapped up into one.


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There has to be a better way to raise money for a Woman's Shelter.

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Revoked license? Check. In possession of Meth? Check. On the way to the Police Department? Check. Genius Award Winner.

Woman Drives To Jail On Suspended License With Meth In Her Pants


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Cursing.

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Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

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1 Creative loafing!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (kQs4Y)

2 Good evening!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (IfYaq)

3 Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (BbGew)

4 &#Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (CLcKT)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (icuj/)

6 *tucks Skip in*

(to bed)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (kQs4Y)

7 Just a joke on that purple gang comment, JT.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:58 PM (A3w0Q)

8 Hey oh!

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (9Gcv4)

9 Hiya.

I'm late, sorry, complicated business.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (htgmn)

10 Read the content and watched two of the vids. Where is everyone?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (PkVlr)

11 The guy with the moose is in charge.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (w7KSn)

12 9 Hiya.

I'm late, sorry, complicated business.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (htgmn)


I have the rest of the night........

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (aA3+G)

13 How was your day, Dear?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (htgmn)

14 Well. I tried. Guess it's off to spend time with Jim, Jack, and Jose.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (IfYaq)

15 I have the rest of the night........
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (aA3+G)

What do you have in mind?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (htgmn)

16 Playing a sport naked can improve your skills?? Huh.

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (fiC74)

17 Just a joke on that purple gang comment, JT.

I know, I know !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (icuj/)

18 I am vexed by that disgusting cocktail.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (4knXT)

19 Baking bread for the Overnight Thread!

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (NsI03)

20 I saw Ted Nugent in concert in Des Moines.

He puts on quite a show.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (htgmn)

21 Is that Ma Barker in the top pic ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (icuj/)

22 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (fiC74)

23 Greeting from Belgium, Wisconsin!

It's the middle of May and it's 47 freakin' degrees.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (jNdqc)

24 There has to be a better way to raise money for a Woman's Shelter.

And feminists are fond of calling men pigs.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (+lVUW)

25 Playing a sport naked can improve your skills?? Huh.

Well, not alligator wrestling.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (icuj/)

26
It's the middle of May and it's 47 freakin' degrees.
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (jNdqc)

It was like 92 here in NE GA.

I love living in the South.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (htgmn)

27 Just a few minutes from Manitowac.

Think I should go find that guy? Buy him a sausage?

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (jNdqc)

28 This makes me happy.

Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these kids work hard!

https://youtu.be/4Quc3-AguiQ

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (9Gcv4)

29 Is baker lady carrying a pistol?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (8AONa)

30 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.

Did Hillary lose that one TOO ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (icuj/)

31 The size of that loaf of bread.

Posted by: davidt at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (EfMCv)

32 Is baker lady carrying a pistol?
Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (8AONa)


Nah, she's just happy to see you.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (aS1PU)

33 that's one heck of a big loaf of bread!

she seems proud, and rightly so

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (xIKXj)

34 Who's Granny is that in the top pic?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (htgmn)

35 Is baker lady carrying a pistol?
Posted by: 2009Refugee


Her oven ain't the only thing that packs heat.

Posted by: mikeski at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (P1f+c)

36 RE: Jeff Koons, the late great Spy Magazine had a funny prank where they displayed kid's artwork in a spare white museum space with the usual dense ArtSpeak explaining "The New Neo-Neos". A little girl spray-painted an inflatable bunny rabbit a ala Koons and the crowd was swooning over it. "It's like a very intelligent child painted this."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (kQs4Y)

37 Hey nurse R,

I mentioned today how good Doris Day looked in her buckskin trousers in Calamity Jane and someone came back with that's how you dress when hunting woodpeckers.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (A3w0Q)

38 Is that... Ma Baker?

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (NsI03)

39 Missed the Movie Thread so will ask my question now. Is it Michael Caine who said he never turned down a role that was offered? I watched The Last Witch Hunter last week and he had a part in it. It actually wasn't an awful movie, although it certainly wasn't great either.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (uquGJ)

40 I'm honestly surprised Florida Man was reported to the cops. That seems like small potatoes by their standards.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (2PXwn)

41 Half a loaf is better than none.

As to the moose guy - that looks like a fairly young female. A full fledged male, with antlers, would have run him down and not even noticed that he had a stick or, if he did, it would have just pissed the moose off even more.

That being said - still pretty impressive to stand your ground against any wild animal that size.

Good evening all - In the good ole US of A for my sons graduation from Carnegie Mellon tomorrow. Kudos to all hordling graduates out there!

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (46K9N)

42
What do you have in mind?
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (htgmn)


It has something to do with May snow showers.......

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

43 Her oven ain't the only thing that packs heat.

Posted by: mikeski

And she gets no repeat complaints.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 18, 2019 10:07 PM (8AONa)

44 Does Airbnb still require you to have a facebook account? Never used it because of that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:07 PM (PUmDY)

45 I'm convinced that all the idiotic big ticket 'art' sales are just a money laundering scheme.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (9Gcv4)

46 Who's going to ID the handgun?

Posted by: davidt at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (EfMCv)

47 It was like 92 here in NE GA.

I love living in the South.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (htgmn)

I'm from the Rio Grande Valley. Ya know, The Wall country. It'll be mid90s there from now until November.

Wisconsinites must not own calendars. If they knew it was May surely they would protest!

I miss warm weather.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (jNdqc)

48 Who's going to ID the handgun?

NSA Bob ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:09 PM (icuj/)

49 So I have a decision to make.

Gilligan or the Professor?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:09 PM (htgmn)

50

What's air bnb, the one where the owner is there or not there?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (//+WH)

51 So I have a decision to make.

Gilligan or the Professor?
Posted by: ALH, Herself

Embace the power of AND !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (icuj/)

52 Handgun looks like a Browning 1910. Or maybe I'm not drunk enough yet.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (IfYaq)

53 This is cool. Cross section of the USS Constitution.

https://bit.ly/2LSvLwc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (+y/Ru)

54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day long. All the usual sophomoric tropes are represented. "Men will have a say on abortion when they carry their own baby." "The Bible is not the law of the land." Yada yada yada.

Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

Ugh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)

55 Yes.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (PUmDY)

56 And embrace it too !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (icuj/)

57 Where is my fucking cupcake

Posted by: 4 year old at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (ucNdt)

58 Wisconsinites must not own calendars. If they knew it was May surely they would protest!

I miss warm weather.
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (jNdqc)


I own a calendar and the NOAA says snow showers tomorrow. The air was blue when I read that.

The snowbanks on our dead end road just left on Friday.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (aA3+G)

59 31 The size of that loaf of bread.
Posted by: davidt at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (EfMCv)

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It had to get a family of 15 through the entire winter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:12 PM (4knXT)

60 Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

Posted by: Cicero

-----

That's exactly what I hit them with. Something along the lines of "You can call it whatever you want, but all "successful" abortions result in the death of the child."

I get crickets most of the time back.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 18, 2019 10:12 PM (Y4EXg)

61 I would not consider one in which the owner or other people would be there.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (PUmDY)

62 My God! That's a real drink served in a real bar! The Downfall of Western Civilization is at hand.

Posted by: RickZ at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (Y8PSl)

63 Oh god, that joke. XD

Would it be just for going out with the Mo, volunteeting for Warren, or does it have to be both.

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (OnEJV)

64 Maybe that photo is her snapshot for FarmersOnly. Ingeborg can bake a mean loaf, is a crack shot, and rolls her own ciggies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (kQs4Y)

65
You see the newest ancestry dot com tv ad with the broad who found out she's cousins with George Washington?

He owned slaves!!! How long until that ad gets pulled from tv?

btw, I want you all to remember who predicted Disney will remove the Washington and Jackson robots from their robot presidents. Because I really believe it's gonna happen.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (//+WH)

66 Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

* Goes wheeling down the hall in office chair *

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (NsI03)

67 Once again, I'm counting me lucky charms that Florida Man is no one I know.

Yet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (HaL55)

68 Holy shit I'm like two miles from Lake Michigan!

I can't pick up my load until Monday morning. Tempted to take a short hike over tomorrow.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (jNdqc)

69 Cicero, I received a text from my ex landlord promising she'd mail me a check for my deposit the 31st, and apologizing for 'forgetting.'

that letter, in which I said all that you suggested I say, may have worked a wonder.

I'll let you know if the check ever comes. But thank you for your help!

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (xIKXj)

70
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)

I am seeing the same thing. I had no idea that some of my friends supported infanticide. I am at a loss for words.
There is a huge divide in this world between good and evil.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (htgmn)

71 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.

Eric Weinstein:

Anyone notice a pattern?

A) Mainstream commentators decide amongst themselves that right-of-center positions are only held by a bad fringe.

B) Voters then lie to pollsters in response.

C) A vote is held.

D) Same commentators switch to complaining about dangers of "populism".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (I2/tG)

72 I wonder what the mold was that Grannie used to make that loaf. Some clay thing?

Before she came into a few extra bucks, Nonna TP used empty gallon containers of olive oil with one side cut out as her bread pans.

I didn't know until I went to college that folks baked bread in any other manner.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (Y4EXg)

73 49 So I have a decision to make.

Gilligan or the Professor?
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:09 PM (htgmn)
---
Have a threesome with Thurston and Lovey, followed by cocktails and dancing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (kQs4Y)

74

In fact, I'll bet we can make it happen. A couple of strategic tweets and a facebook post on how it's 'offensive' for Disney to celebrate slave-owning robot presidents...

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (//+WH)

75 28 This makes me happy.

Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these kids work hard!

https://youtu.be/4Quc3-AguiQ
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (9Gcv4)


That's some serious cultural appropriation. It shouldn't make you happy; you should be feeling unsafe.

Posted by: Emmie at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (4HMW8)

76 54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day"

he's not a "friend".

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (V2Yro)

77 I'll let you know if the check ever comes. But thank you for your help!
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (xIKXj)

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Glad I could be of some meager assistance, booknlass!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (4knXT)

78 Have a threesome with Thurston and Lovey, followed by cocktails and dancing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (kQs4Y)


It's a thought....

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (htgmn)

79 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (JFzNN)

80 Flirting with Disaster has a funny b&b plot joke segment.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (PUmDY)

81 I own a calendar and the NOAA says snow showers tomorrow. The air was blue when I read that.

The snowbanks on our dead end road just left on Friday.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (aA3+G)

Life doesn't have to be all about suffering.

You could move to Texas.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (jNdqc)

82 LOL, I think Uncle Todd has been teaching the 4 yr old new words.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (ufFY8)

83 Is Trump in the Hall of President yet?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (kQs4Y)

84
Today's 'Plugger' cartoon. Many here will appreciate it:

http://tinyurl.com/y6puloyu

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (CDGwz)

85 76 54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day"

he's not a "friend".
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (V2Yro)

-------

It's a her. She's a teachers union hack.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (4knXT)

86 Think if you said no to the lady up top you'd get cracked?

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (K22Va)

87

Rabbit season?

Posted by: Daffy Duck at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (aKsyK)

88 B) Voters then lie to pollsters in response.

It's interesting in Australia that even the exit polls were badly wrong, and predicted a left-wing victory.

Clearly, a lot of voters voted for the conservative party, and then lied to a pollster at the polling place about who they voted for.

Good on ya, mate!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (I2/tG)

89 With a pistol no less, lol.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (K22Va)

90 Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

They've gone completely nuts. They used to say that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Now, at Planned Butcherhood events, they're cheering people who admit to having multiple abortions. I guess that being irresponsible enough to have TWO OR MORE unwanted pregnancies is something to be proud of.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (+lVUW)

91
Is Trump in the Hall of President yet?

Someone here said they saw him. I forget who.

But they said Robot President Trump nods his head to Robot President Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (//+WH)

92 Think I'll stick with Martinis, Old Fashioneds, and Sidecars.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (sdi6R)

93 When I look at that baker, I can't help but think they're just ain't many people that tough around anymore. Oh, the SJW's and ANTIFA pussies "think" they're tough - but they're just cosplayers in their own sad little drama. My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.

Look at her eyes; she could put down a riot by herself. Or start one, if she felt like it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (V2Yro)

94 Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

Hopefully, this does not prove vexatious to the Powers-That-Be.

Aw, h*ell, they never read the ONT. Crank up The Village People, AND LET'S PAR-TAY!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (DMUuz)

95 54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day long. All the usual sophomoric tropes are represented. "Men will have a say on abortion when they carry their own baby." "The Bible is not the law of the land." Yada yada yada.

Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

Ugh.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)



Go to the Babylon Bee. This week they have had two great articles. "Liberals demand the overturning of Roe v Wade because abortion should not be decided by old white men" with a picture of the Supreme Court bench that made that decision. And today they had a "you can't oppose killing puppies unless you are willing to adopt all dogs" "opinion" piece

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (l5VZD)

96 Disney World Hall of Presidents? Lol, he never will be.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:20 PM (PUmDY)

97 What happened in Australia?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:20 PM (ufFY8)

98 " he's not a friend." "

Bingo

The older I have become the deeper the meaning has become to that word, friend.

Finding that out would immediately move them into the acquaintance catagory.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (A3w0Q)

99 As I understand it, in australia voting is required under penalty of a heavy fine, turnout is always crazy high, and one would think that polling would be pretty accurate...yet it was way way off.

I think it just shows that political polling is pretty much garbage.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (IfYaq)

100 I made a ham & potato casserole. Should we have it for Sunday lunch, or save it for Monday supper.

It's really nice to have a real meal after work.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (htgmn)

101 Life doesn't have to be all about suffering.

You could move to Texas.
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (jNdqc)


No offense, but Texas topography isn't my favorite.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

102 Clearly, a lot of voters voted for the conservative party, and then lied to a pollster at the polling place about who they voted for.
---
In England they called it the Shy Tory effect.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (kQs4Y)

103 Old Fashioneds rule.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (PUmDY)

104 97 What happened in Australia?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:20 PM (ufFY

Some blokes did some things.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (NWiLs)

105
Then again, someone here also said Disney just put an orange wig on their hitlery clinton robot they had already built in anticipation of hitlery's inevitable victory.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM (//+WH)

106 My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher...
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (V2Yro)


True. My great grandfather was a US Marshall in New Mexico Territory and was shot dead by a bandit he was chasing. Grandma grew up with a step father.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM (aS1PU)

107 94 Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

Hopefully, this does not prove vexatious to the Powers-That-Be.

Aw, h*ell, they never read the ONT. Crank up The Village People, AND LET'S PAR-TAY!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (DMUuz)


Village People?

Its like I don't even know you Morons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

108 EU elections next week and I don't understand much of their process but Farage's Brexit party may surprise everyone.

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (fiC74)

109 350 million people and this is the best they can do? lol

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (K22Va)

110 "Men will have a say on abortion when they carry their own baby."

Also, they're deluding themselves into thinking that women aren't a significant part of the anti-abortion movement. Of course they have the same problem with Trump. They don't get it, that a large part of his support is from women like me who believe that we need to stop encouraging irresponsible and illegal behavior.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (+lVUW)

111 Oh shit that Jihadi job application is funny.

"Any hobbies or pastimes?......"

It's fun to read it out loud like Achmed The Dead Terrorist.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (HaL55)

112 Then again, someone here also said Disney just put an orange wig on their hitlery clinton robot they had already built in anticipation of hitlery's inevitable victory.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM (//+WH)

Did they really? That's hilarious, just as funny as the cancelled fireworks show.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (htgmn)

113 i really really love Ted's tail.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (xIKXj)

114 105
Then again, someone here also said Disney just put an orange wig on their hitlery clinton robot they had already built in anticipation of hitlery's inevitable victory.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM

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Disney will just repurpose the fat drunk pirate who's sleeping with the pigs in Pirates of the Caribbean.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:25 PM (4knXT)

115 On a scale of one to Mazie Hirono discussing quantum physics, how stupid is this?

Calvin Klein is apologizing after the fashion label came under fire for a video campaign showing model Bella Hadid kissing female robot Lil Miquela.
The 30-second ad drew backlash since Hadid identifies as heterosexual, with critics commenting, "There are plenty of real LGBTQ Models that could have been used."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (soHCJ)

116 No offense, but Texas topography isn't my favorite.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

Texas Titties aren't big enough for you, is that what you're sayin'?

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (jNdqc)

117 Disney will just repurpose the fat drunk pirate who's sleeping with the pigs in Pirates of the Caribbean.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:25 PM (4knXT)


Walt Disney is spinning in his grave faster that a neutron star.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (aS1PU)

118 What happened in Australia?

Hillary lost AGAIN !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (icuj/)

119 Is that a Glock in the apron pocket? Because that looks like a Glock.

I'm pretty sure this is proof of time travel.

Was Ace's time machine involved, or is there Another?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (bjCNA)

120 *waves at Nurse Ratched*
Emergency gardening protocol has been activated. My bamboo has escaped the buried metal enclosure that kept it contained. Giant sprouts appeared overnight after the big rain. If I don't appear in the Book Thread tomorrow, avenge me!
I wanna drink...


Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (iwoyh)

121 Aw, h*ell, they never read the ONT. Crank up The Village People, AND LET'S PAR-TAY!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (DMUuz)


The Village People are terribly underrated. Ahead of their time, even.
We have weirder weirdos these days.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (htgmn)

122

No golf fans here?
No fans of knockers, either?

I thought the Six Million Dollar Man clip I linked earlier was darn good. Funny and booby. Perhaps you just missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofxhsVWB5A

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (//+WH)

123 A Florida man caught playing basketball naked at a public park said he thought it would help improve his skills, according to police.


********

Just look at him dribble!

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (m45I2)

124 Cicero, lol!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (PUmDY)

125 I just thought of a fascinating corollary to the problem with polls now (ie, the fact that they are turning out to be so consistently wrong) - What about the politicians and candidates who are always chasing the latest polls to see what they should be thinking and saying? (Like Lizzie Warren, and Buttplug, and Kameltoe, etc) Shouldn't they be worrying that "hey, what if I am basing my entire political persona on false information?"

Well of course that's what they SHOULD be thinking, but since there's some kind if IQ test you gotta fail to be a Dem Candidate today, that will never occur to them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (V2Yro)

126 On that Calvin Klein ad...I couldn't tell which one was the robot.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (IfYaq)

127

As I understand it, in australia voting is required under penalty of a heavy fine

Clearly, a lot of voters voted for the conservative party, and then lied to a pollster at the polling place about who they voted for.


Maybe they'll make it illegal to lie to a pollster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (aKsyK)

128 A Florida man caught playing basketball naked at a public park said he thought it would help improve his skills, according to police.
********
Just look at him dribble!


Amazing ball-handling skills.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (soHCJ)

129 Goodnite Horde.

I'm gonna go fall asleep watching Miller's Crossing.

"What's the rumpus ?"


zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (icuj/)

130 In England they called it the Shy Tory effect.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM


'E's not shy! 'E was in the pool, it's shrinkage!

Posted by: Mr. Tory at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (DMUuz)

131 Also, they're deluding themselves into thinking that women aren't a significant part of the anti-abortion movement. Of course they have the same problem with Trump. They don't get it, that a large part of his support is from women like me who believe that we need to stop encouraging irresponsible and illegal behavior.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (+lVUW)

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They've convinced themselves that the only reason men oppose abortion is because they hate women and want to symbolically enslave them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (4knXT)

132 So in a very exciting day (not really) while waiting for the oven to finish its self-clean cycle, it occurred to me that I could have tossed the nasty old bbq grate in there.

Have any of you ever tried that?

It's stainless steel, I doubt it will explode...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (0ReGO)

133 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)

134 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.
Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (fiC74)

Pixy mentioned it on his blog earlier.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (tVQUs)

135
You hear about this fake outrage?

Cape Cod, Massachusetts: A store was displaying some Shark related paraphernalia such as postcards and stuff with "Nice To Eat You" on it, and "Send More Tourists!"

Guess what happened next.


oUtRaGe!!

The store removed all of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (//+WH)

136 Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (jNdqc)


I enjoy woods and water and have my dream home. The weather can be tolerated at this time in my life.

Now when I turn 39 that may be an issue.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

137
I shit you not. That happened this week.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (//+WH)

138 I need a reading tutor. Halfway through that JackStraw link and it appears to be a hit piece on Bush, Gonzales, Cheney, and Card, and some fluffy cotton candy for commies Comey, Mueller, and Wray.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (ZS+GP)

139 They don't get it, that a large part of his support is from women like me who believe that we need to stop encouraging irresponsible and illegal behavior.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (+lVUW)


So judgy. You're harshing someone's mellow somewhere, violating their safe space. Twitter MUST know all about this MAGA oppression. BRB, well after I hit the GrubHub app first . . .

Posted by: RickZ at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (Y8PSl)

140 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.

Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)

141 No offense, but Texas topography isn't my favorite.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM

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Texas Titties aren't big enough for you, is that what you're sayin'?
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM


Texas hair isn't big enough for you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (DMUuz)

142 You hear about this fake outrage?

Cape Cod, Massachusetts: A store was displaying some Shark related paraphernalia such as postcards and stuff with "Nice To Eat You" on it, and "Send More Tourists!"

Guess what happened next.


oUtRaGe!!

The store removed all of it.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (//+WH


When the mob erupts, people have got to remember to use the tried and true:
Lol, get fucked.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (aS1PU)

143 118 What happened in Australia?

Hillary lost AGAIN !
Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (icuj/)
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Ha!

Never gets old!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (kQs4Y)

144 Now when I turn 39 that may be an issue.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

That's still 10 years away. You can always sell and move into an active adult community.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (htgmn)

145 Hiya BackwardsBoy,

Haven't seen em yet but two Farmer toms are in to help shrink my "footprint" on smaller stages. Already had Farmer foot drum.
Also a new, better Shure than my current Shure kick mic and a couple of Earthworks overhead mics.
Current Shure kick mic will replace current Shure floor tom mic.
I got outvoted so the band bought all of it.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (A3w0Q)

146 A testicle festival?

Do they have a basketball tournament by any chance...?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (IfYaq)

147 My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.
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My grandfather worked his farm with mules, for most of his life. It was a small farm, and they often had to mortgage it to buy seed for the planting season.

My grandfather did the farming, my grandmother did everything else, including raising her chickens and taking care of the garden.

I can remember when the only water was from a hand pump.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (CDGwz)

148 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Three three finalists were "I'm with her.", "Please, give the shoe back.", and "It's vodka in America."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (soHCJ)

149 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)

I recall that they considered "I'm ready for Hillary" and "It's her turn".

Posted by: Surfperch at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (tVQUs)

150 Fucking NYT:


The election had presented Australia, a vital American ally in the
Asia-Pacific, with a crucial question: Would it remain on a rightward
path and stick with a political coalition that promised economic
stability, jobs and cuts to immigration or choose greater action on climate change and income inequality?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (ufFY8)

151 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)

152 148 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Three three finalists were "I'm with her.", "Please, give the shoe back.", and "It's vodka in America."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (soHCJ)

A semi-finalist was "Vote for me you fucking shitbags, Or I will make you sorry you were ever born!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (V2Yro)

153 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)


OH THE HUMANITY!

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (aS1PU)

154 The international date line seriously messes up polling data. Or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (soHCJ)

155 She's with me.

Posted by: Bollard at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (EfMCv)

156 140: two of a kind used to be a stop on the way to two rivers every weekend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (KP5rU)

157 Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these kids work hard!

https://youtu.be/4Quc3-AguiQ
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (9Gcv4)

That's some serious cultural appropriation. It shouldn't make you happy; you should be feeling unsafe.

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*guffaw*......no.
Japanese don't buy into that 'cultural appropriation' bullsh*t because, mascot culture and tentacle porn nowithstanding, they are FAR more sane than the feminazi SJW as*wipes.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (9Gcv4)

158 Oh, and you get fined 20 Australian dollars for not voting.
But, intentionally spoiling your ballot is legal, so you can do that if you want and avoid the fine.
Still, mandatory voting is messed up in a free country.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (ufFY8)

159 Night, JT

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (A3w0Q)

160 Would it remain on a rightward path and stick with a political coalition that promised economic stability, jobs and cuts to immigration or choose greater action on climate change and income inequality?

Yes, that sure is a head scratcher.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (soHCJ)

161 151 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)

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We'll see Horsedrawn Carriage: Journey To The Magic Castle before this trend is finished. The Mouse never leaves a buck on the table.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (4knXT)

162 150, Ian, the NYT is devastated because they thought the left winning in Australia would be a big boost to the Dems here as well as in the UK. Tides shifting and nonsense like that. Bwahahaha..

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:37 PM (fiC74)

163 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)

If this "Testicle Festival" is what I think it is, then I'm buying tickets to Dundas ASAP!

*licks lips*

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 18, 2019 10:37 PM (tVQUs)

164 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)
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Mister Toad's Wild Ride should be made into an LSD-fueled road picture a la Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:38 PM (kQs4Y)

165 Isn't that Grammie from Beverly Hillbillies up top?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2019 10:38 PM (OX6sG)

166 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)
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Sometimes you feel like a nut...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:38 PM (kQs4Y)

167 144 Now when I turn 39 that may be an issue.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

That's still 10 years away. You can always sell and move into an active adult community.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (htgmn)

True, so true.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (aA3+G)

168
My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.

I wish I was able to know them all.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (K22Va)

169 "Gimme all yer dough!!!"

Posted by: Ma Baker at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (m45I2)

170 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)


Nuts.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (htgmn)

171 Mister Toad's Wild Ride should be made into an LSD-fueled road picture a la Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

The drugs took hold under the arch in Cinderella's Castle....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (soHCJ)

172 162
150, Ian, the NYT is devastated because they thought the left winning in
Australia would be a big boost to the Dems here as well as in the UK.
Tides shifting and nonsense like that. Bwahahaha..

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:37 PM (fiC74)

Oh yeah, definitely.
It pleases me that the lying liars in the media got it wrong again.
It's gonna be an early night Down Under, apparently, although its afternoon tomorrow there right now.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (ufFY8)

173 140 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)

Go and have yourself a ball!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (NWiLs)

174 162 150, Ian, the NYT is devastated because they thought the left winning in Australia would be a big boost to the Dems here as well as in the UK. Tides shifting and nonsense like that. Bwahahaha.."

The best part is that the Left in Australia went All In on their version of a Green New Deal. The conservatives (called the Liberal Party in Australia) didn't make that a big deal in the election, the Left did that themselves.

And it turned out to be a total Own Goal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (V2Yro)

175 Jamey Johnson

In Color

https://youtu.be/EYGwxf1gCC4

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (xIKXj)

176 I don't know, Shep, but the strippers in Manitowoc for a competition were talking about going.

Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (sujqA)

177 133
How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?





Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)


I always liked "Stronger Together", because it's the literal definition of Fascism. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

178
That's still 10 years away. You can always sell and move into an active adult community.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (htgmn)

True, so true.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Del Boca Vista

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

179 Oh, and you get fined 20 Australian dollars for not voting.
But, intentionally spoiling your ballot is legal, so you can do that if you want and avoid the fine.
Still, mandatory voting is messed up in a free country.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (ufFY

I wonder how well one would do running solely on ending mandatory voting?

Posted by: Surfperch at May 18, 2019 10:41 PM (tVQUs)

180 True, so true.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Del Boca Vista
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

The Villages.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (htgmn)

181 156 140: two of a kind used to be a stop on the way to two rivers every weekend.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (KP5rU)

That's pronounced T'rivers for all of you non-Sconnie folks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (aA3+G)

182 The late night Chinese electric parade was awesome when I was a kid.i heard they don't do it anymore.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (PUmDY)

183

Cars of the Future (1948 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ZS_EfoYpA


Listen for the word empennage at 1:20. Heh. A rugged empennage. I know women like that!

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (//+WH)

184 been to dundas many times. never went to the testicle festival.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

185 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

The youngest is headed your way later this summer. Her and my future son in law are considering moving to NC

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (aA3+G)

186 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Three three finalists were "I'm with her.", "Please, give the shoe back.", and "It's vodka in America."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (soHCJ)


"Shart. Hic. Burrrrp" came in 4th.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (XROPS)

187 True, so true.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Del Boca Vista
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

The Villages.
Posted by: ALH,
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Del Webb. I don't even know who he is/was, but I despise the SOB.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (CDGwz)

188 I guess I'm with her polled better than It's my turn to run the camps.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 10:44 PM (H5knJ)

189 empennage

I had to look that one up.

It means Junk in the Trunk.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:44 PM (htgmn)

190 How dare you.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (PUmDY)

191 The youngest is headed your way later this summer. Her and my future son in law are considering moving to NC
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Whereabouts are they headed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (CDGwz)

192 The conservatives (called the Liberal Party in
Australia) didn't make that a big deal in the election, the Left did
that themselves.



And it turned out to be a total Own Goal.



Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (V2Yro)


Yeah, the Liberals (i.e. Conservative) vs Labor (whack-jobs). And the "National" party is now aligned with the Liberals, and they are called the Liberal-National party (according to the BBC story I read).
I think the fact that the center part of their country has their time zone on the half-hour really screws them up ( or else they really don't like Perth, and want to be 90 minutes away from them).

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (ufFY8)

193 To be fair, "I'm with her" was better than 2008's "BILL, THE SHITTER'S FULL."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (soHCJ)

194 My ex FIL started farming his dad's farm when he was 12 and his big brother was 17, because their dad lost his mind. early 30's

so that first stanza of "In Color" hits me right between the eyes.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (xIKXj)

195 She's Got Empennage!

Posted by: Vincent Hannah at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (EfMCv)

196 Another useful word for the Horde is embonpoint, the fleshy salient points of a lady's figure.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (kQs4Y)

197 187: hammer, i don't think del was a stand up guy. nothing like his brother, jack. del was a grifter.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (KP5rU)

198 Whereabouts are they headed?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (CDGwz)

Looking at Asheville and the Raleigh areas. That I know of.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (aA3+G)

199 I said grandpa what's this picture here
It's all black and white and it ain't too clear
Is that you there, he said yeah
I was eleven

Great tune booknlass

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (A3w0Q)

200
It means Junk in the Trunk.

Yep. But classy.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (//+WH)

201 Her 2020 bumpersticker will be Finally, I shall have my revenge. She's really well-balanced and sane.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (H5knJ)

202
Looking at Asheville and the Raleigh areas. That I know of.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Quite a contrast between those two.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)

203 Looking at Asheville and the Raleigh areas. That I know of.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (aA3+G)

That area is really growing, a lot of people are moving there. The Biltmore is there.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:48 PM (htgmn)

204 thanks teej. I like it too

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:48 PM (xIKXj)

205 I like Publix fried chicken and wings, but everything else is way overpriced.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (PUmDY)

206 133 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself


A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

207
That area is really growing, a lot of people are moving there.
Posted by: ALH
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It is slowly, actually not so slowly, being destroyed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (xSo9G)

208 Like Steph Curry, Florida Man can dribble two balls at once

Posted by: Stumck at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (IpZ/y)

209 Moose "attack" seemed to be resolved when he formed his arms and stick into the profile of a moose with a huge set of antlers.

Posted by: MW at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (hNTtn)

210 Hooooorde.

Sup.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (IYHxL)

211 Good evening all...

Posted by: Tentotwo at May 18, 2019 10:52 PM (yhf6w)

212 going to holden beach on saturday. we're flying into wilmington. driving through nc this time of year is gridlock. fuck that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:52 PM (KP5rU)

213
Oh, that reminds me. Speaking of airplane tails...

Remember a couple years ago we discussed silly budget/low-cost airline names and how extra-awful it is when they crash? Like when Valujet crashes in the swamplands and the passengers are being eaten alive by alligators and tv shows the wreckage with the cartoon airplane logo?

Yeah, so this week an airline called WOW! went teets up. I figured it was for the best because eventually they'll have a crash and wreckage on TV will show the tail with WOW! on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:52 PM (//+WH)

214 thathalfrican!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:53 PM (KP5rU)

215 Never been to Asheville, I have heard it is beautiful, but even the libs I know who move there say it is very boring and expensive.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:53 PM (PUmDY)

216 Freddie Freeman just took Josh Hader deep in the 10th. Braves win 4-3.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (soHCJ)

217 "Woman Drives To Jail On Suspended License With Meth In Her Pants"

"I couldn't help it! I wath tho thcared I thit mythelf!

Posted by: MW at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (hNTtn)

218 Never been to Asheville, I have heard it is beautiful, but even the libs I know who move there say it is very boring and expensive.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie
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The locusts are sucking the lifeblood out of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (CDGwz)

219 And if it looks like we were scared to death
Like a couple of kids just trying to save each other
You should have seen it in color

It's when he gets to "... eyes so blue and just look at that smile..." that it punches me in the gut booknlass. Even just now thinking about it.

That was Becky.

Love each other fellow babies

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (A3w0Q)

220 If you've ever been to Versailles, and I have, the Biltmore is a shack in comparison.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:55 PM (htgmn)

221
Quite a contrast between those two.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)


There young. In love. And don't know what they want. They are also checking out WA state.

I just smh.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:55 PM (aA3+G)

222 asheville is beautiful. in ten years, it will be totally fucked. commies ruin everything.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (KP5rU)

223 Picture Caption: Labor Party supporters watching news of the results at an election-night event in Melbourne.

Not quite as schadenfreude-y as the wailing nincompoops crying over Hilary, but still funny.
http://tinyurl.com/yxkap7lm

Warning: that link goes to the NYT story.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (ufFY8)

224 The Versailles left me underwhelmed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (kQs4Y)

225 Is there a way to use ampersands on this site?

Posted by: hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (m45I2)

226 What kind of work are they looking for, MisHum?

Young people are looking for their opportunity.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (htgmn)

227 Asheville is turning into Portland, NC. Hippies every damn where.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (soHCJ)

228 &&&&&&&&&

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (kQs4Y)

229 Crouching Tiger - Blazing Saddles is on. They are stuck at the tollbooth.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (RuIsu)

230 151 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


Earworm time.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (+lVUW)

231 Maybe they'll make it illegal to lie to a pollster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (aKsyK)

It's illegal to lie to the sacks of garbage at the FBI, so why not?

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (iG8X1)

232 chavez my dude! What's good?

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (IYHxL)

233 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

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Wait. What was wrong with, "I want your vote to impose my hateful vindictive tyranny on a helpless citizenry while enriching myself beyond measure through unlimited opportunities for graft and influence-peddling at the expense of America's national security interests"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (4knXT)

234 168
My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.
I wish I was able to know them all."

The one great grandparent I knew well was Katie Pettis, an old scottswoman. I think she was born in the early 1880's. She lived out on a farm in Wisconsin her entire life, the last 30 years of it by herself. (husband died) she was my mother's mother's mother.

We stayed at her place a couple of times when I was 6 or 7. Old, old house, as old as she was. One time the tornadoes rolled overhead and the outhouse got knocked over. Another time it was lovely, and I woke up very early at dawn, and walked outside to see the sunrise - everyone else was still asleep. I was amazed, as I went out in front of the house, to see Granny walking out of a stand of woods about 100 yards away, headed back to the house. I met her and said "Granny, what are you doing out so early???" and she gave me a strange look with a half-smile and said "I'm not your granny, I killed her and left her in the woods, I'm a witch and I'm just wearing her skin." The she looked straight at me and laughed and went on into the house.

that scared the shit out of me like nothing ever has, before or since. I was so terrified I couldn't say anything at all to anyone, and she knew it, because she would look at me and grin. Months later, when we were back home, I finally got up the nerve to tell my mother about it, and all she said was "ha! Well that's granny, she thinks its funny to say stuff like that. And she's gotten kinda strange now she's got old and lives by herself."

Damn, granny. You sure knew how to mess with kids minds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (V2Yro)

235 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (kQs4Y)

What is your favorite vacation destination? We like the beach.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (htgmn)

236 I'd smoke that woman's pants meth. All of it.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (FiFer)

237 232; everything my friend. how are things for you?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (KP5rU)

238 225 Is there a way to use ampersands on this site?
Posted by: hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (m45I2)

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Not for the lower castes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (4knXT)

239 It means Junk in the Trunk.

Yep. But classy.


I prefer "callipygian" for that. That has ancient Roman marble statuary levels of class.

Posted by: mikeski at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (P1f+c)

240 while I was working for a national non-profit, they asked me to work in SC, and I lived in Spartanburg for a little while.

the place where SC, NC, and TN meet is some of the prettiest forested land I've ever seen.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (xIKXj)

241 asheville is beautiful. in ten years, it will be totally fucked. commies ruin everything.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
----

The ten years is already up.

When a town begins a needle exchange program, you can pretty much figure it's done. Oh, and the Sheriff a couple of weeks ago announced non-cooperation with ICE.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (xSo9G)

242 201 Her 2020 bumpersticker will be Finally, I shall have my revenge. She's really well-balanced and sane.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (H5knJ)

She said the same thing she'd been saying for weeks.

"Burn them all."

(Back when that show was still great.)

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (iG8X1)

243 you know why that story came to mind? Because that baker lady up top with the shooter reminds me a whole lot of how ol' granny looked. She wasn't very big, but she always had this look that let everyone know, you just do not jack with her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 11:00 PM (V2Yro)

244 OUTSTANDING!!!!

According to leaks, Trump is asking for paperwork to Pardon SEAL Chief Gallagher, on Memorial Day, along with other Military folks charged with 'War crimes'.

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 11:00 PM (NgKpN)

245 222 asheville is beautiful. in ten years, it will be totally fucked. commies ruin everything.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (KP5rU)


We were considering Asheville before it was featured as the next great place to go.

Liberals take that as a challenge: "A NEW place to fuck up. Let's go!"

So we crossed it off the list.

We also cross off the list any place featured in Money magazine as a great place to live. Because it won't be for long.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:00 PM (if8r4)

246 Wait. What was wrong with, "I want your vote to
impose my hateful vindictive tyranny on a helpless citizenry while
enriching myself beyond measure through unlimited opportunities for
graft and influence-peddling at the expense of America's national
security interests"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (4knXT)


(channeling Blazing Saddles): Because we like rape.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (ufFY8)

247 155 She's with me.
Posted by: Bollard


I enjoy watching that youtube. She didn't just pass out. She was stiff, like a board. They had her leaned against the bollard like a board.

Then there was a video of her at Biden's childhood home. As she walked around the kitchen she kept her hands on the kitchen table and chairs. When she walked on a flat surface she held a rail or Biden's hand. The woman could walk unaided.

I still want to know what her medical problem was.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (+lVUW)

248 Sitting here at the emergency vet with the new pup. Our dogs always get sick on the weekends.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (fMHxR)

249 wow, Tom, that's a heckuva good anecdote.

you could lift that right off the woman up top

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (xIKXj)

250 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (KP5rU)

I know I posted on the first anniversary of my moms death. Mother's Day was hard because it was so close in time, my youngest is a ball of fury which will, with proper aiming, help him growing up but right now? He's a terror due to that trait and teething. God help me.
The wife and I are doing alright.
You and yours my guy?

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (IYHxL)

251 #224 when I was about 5 years old I pissed on the courtyard of Versailles.

As I got older I liked it even more.

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (FiFer)

252 When a town begins a needle exchange program, you can pretty much figure it's done. Oh, and the Sheriff a couple of weeks ago announced non-cooperation with ICE.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (xSo9G)

That's terrible. It must break your heart.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (htgmn)

253 I took enough art history classes to cultivate a contempt for postmodern art. Worse was the bullshit word-salad academic writing about Jeff Coons et al. I said, in one of my longer papers, that their English teacher should hang themselves.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 11:03 PM (rnAwa)

254 MH, holy shit. I live in L5P/Inman Park in Atlanta, and a measure like that has never been advanced.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:03 PM (PUmDY)

255 Hey everybody.

Saturday night's all right for frying
get a little bacon in...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:03 PM (miE9U)

256 wife and i thought about moving to nc. no more, that state is fucked, now. fucking yankees.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (KP5rU)

257 223 Picture Caption: Labor Party supporters watching news of the results at an election-night event in Melbourne.

Not quite as schadenfreude-y as the wailing nincompoops crying over Hilary, but still funny.

It's glorious! More please . . .

Posted by: Marybeth at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (MEgUr)

258 TJM and everyone, if you're out there, sorry I missed the movie thread. I was actually trying to get my blu-ray system set up in the living room again (long story) and most of the cords weren't cooperative.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (miE9U)

259 226 What kind of work are they looking for, MisHum?

Young people are looking for their opportunity.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (htgmn)

She's an OT, he's in sales.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (aA3+G)

260 Hold the pickle? Extra lettuce!?
Special orders?? Don't upset us!!!

Posted by: SJWs and Snowflakes at Burger King at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (miE9U)

261 That's great teej. I'm not familiar with Farmer equipment, but I'll look it up. So you play venues that big that you have to mike all your drums? Also awesome.

We mike everything at the club, but it's pretty big. 700 or so max cap. I forgot how many thousands of watts the PA system is, but it's a bunch of them. With subwoofers, which they hardly ever put my bass through because everybody's usually eating when we play. They do crank 'em up for the All Star Band, tho'. As they should.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:05 PM (HaL55)

262 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (KP5rU)

Well shit, Prager has been proven right again, the left ruins everything.
What are you doing to pass the time these days? Drinking doesn't count!

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:05 PM (IYHxL)

263 that scared the shit out of me like nothing ever has, before or since. I was so terrified I couldn't say anything at all to anyone, and she knew it, because she would look at me and grin. Months later, when we were back home, I finally got up the nerve to tell my mother about it, and all she said was "ha! Well that's granny, she thinks its funny to say stuff like that. And she's gotten kinda strange now she's got old and lives by herself."

Damn, granny. You sure knew how to mess with kids minds.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (V2Yro)

Who says she was lying?

MU HA HA

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 11:05 PM (NgKpN)

264 and most of the cords weren't cooperative.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (miE9U)

Are they ever?

I think it's just an excuse for Big Pharma to sell more BP meds.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)

266 thathalfrican, I like Prager but he also frustrates the crap out of me.

He's always wringing his hands about how crazy, bad, wrong and evil the left is, but as far as I can recall, never has any answers or suggests any pushback.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (miE9U)

267 MisHum, you are 100% correct.
[Pops three dozen more Prozac caplets] :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:07 PM (miE9U)

268 262; being retired is a full time gig. never run out of shit that needs doing. hardly have time for drinking anymore.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:07 PM (KP5rU)

269 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (miE9U)

F'real? Prager has answers; vote Republican as - in his words - "any Republican is virtually better than any Democrat"
Don't forget his Bible commentary

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (IYHxL)

270 248 Sitting here at the emergency vet with the new pup. Our dogs always get sick on the weekends.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (fMHxR)


Hey A.G. hope everything works out for the new pup.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (aA3+G)

271 thathalfrican, okay, besides that :-)

Trump has proven, it's gonna take a lot more than just voting Repub to get us outta the shit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (miE9U)

272 Saturday night joke was hilarious.

My male Icelandic Sheepdog's name is Moose, short for Moosehunter Thorsdersen.

I used to live near Lakewood, Oh, the wife donated our Cleveland house to a woman's shelter, I'd guess they made more off of that than that drink.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (Rz2Nc)

273 265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?
Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)

Simple, she read her Margaret Sanger, who was a Eugenicist.

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (NgKpN)

274 Evasive, I'm in Lakewood CA. :-)
Admittedly there's a lot of Lakewoods. I believe Steve Miller is from a neighborhood called Lakewood in TX.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (miE9U)

275 Chick no pic at chick fil a.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (PUmDY)

276 115 On a scale of one to Mazie Hirono discussing quantum physics, how stupid is this?

Calvin Klein is apologizing after the fashion label came under fire for a video campaign showing model Bella Hadid kissing female robot Lil Miquela.
The 30-second ad drew backlash since Hadid identifies as heterosexual, with critics commenting, "There are plenty of real LGBTQ Models that could have been used."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (soHCJ)


I trust the scale is logarithmic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (if8r4)

277 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:07 PM (KP5rU)

Then you must be in the best shape of your life with almost no drinking!
Gimmie some insight to retirement; granted I'm 29 - no seriously, I'm closer to 29 than to everyone else who says it - give me some advice to retirement. Every successful guy has said never to retire.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (IYHxL)

278 Colter Wall
Sleeping on the Blacktop

https://youtu.be/qSYkikkitS0

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (xIKXj)

279 248 Sitting here at the emergency vet with the new pup. Our dogs always get sick on the weekends.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (fMHxR)

Aw, what's the matter with your pup?

Posted by: Jordan61, PNW MoMe Survivor & Awesome Mug Winner! at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (F2aXJ)

280 "HRH! Because America Depends on Depends"

Posted by: mnw at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (Cssks)

281 Weird thing:

I passed by my local Chick-Fil-A today, a Saturday. It was closed! Every other time I've passed by there, they've always been packed (except for Sundays of course).

Maybe my local CFA is run by a nice Jewish person? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (miE9U)

282 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (miE9U)
Totally agree with that assessment and I think Prager would too. We need more Trumps.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:11 PM (IYHxL)

283 Evasive, I'm in Lakewood CA. :-)
Admittedly there's a lot of Lakewoods. I believe Steve Miller is from a neighborhood called Lakewood in TX.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (miE9U)

Nice, I'm certain there are many Lakewoods. The story linked specifically states Lakewood, OH.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:11 PM (Rz2Nc)

284 so a betting house called SportsBet paid out $1.3 million days before the election to punters (weird English/Aussie term) who bet on the lefties in Australia. That means the guys who bet on the loser got paid off as if they had won. The same thing happened with some Irish (as I recall) betting house during the 2016 presidential election. The Irish blokes, as a stunt, paid of those who bet oh Hillary days before the election.

Now let me ask you, how is this even possible or legal? Sure, they can do what they want but who pays off a bet before the contest occurs? Would any American casino or sportsbook pay off a bet as a winner just because someone made a bet? Would any human pay of a sports bet before the match was played? Yeah, they screwed up, but there is something else to this. This is not normal human behavior. Just off the cuff it seems like a payoff to the left, a heads you win tails we lose type of thing.

Someone on their twitter feed mentioned that this could help the conserves because if someone bet on the left and got paid off, they could now change their mind in good conscious or just for fun and vote in what Aussies consider to be conservative. Yeah, it is a stretch but there is a point there. Either way, the world is not getting smarter with social media it seems. No social media or net, no way this happens. They wouldn't even be able to contact the punters before the election. Just weird, these days.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (n13/j)

285 thathalfrican, yup.

I wish it were as easy as just voting Repub. That might have been the case 20-30 years ago. But it's a CULTURE war, not just a political war.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (miE9U)

286
The dreaded second season of Buck Rogers is on.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (//+WH)

287
Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of
school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these
kids work hard!


That's a great band. Not many guys in it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (HaL55)

288 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)


Uh ... isn't that the job of the candidate?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (if8r4)

289 my advice for retirement is keep yourself busy. we gutted our house last year. glad that's done. i never run out of shit that needs to be done.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

290 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)


"Drink up!"

"Vote for me, you useless assholes!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (if8r4)

291 As I understand it there are Lakewoods in NJ, NY, CO, TX and OH as well as CA. Probably others as well.

And then there's Las Vegas in New Mexico. Anyone ever been to it?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (miE9U)

292 Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019

My Mom passed away 15 years ago on Monday. I still miss her. But, the pain isn't as bad as it once was. Hang in there.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:14 PM (aA3+G)

293 265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?
Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)


Less homework to grade.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:15 PM (if8r4)

294 "Vote for me, you useless assholes!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara



ha ha ha ha

that's a good one, Jay

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:15 PM (xIKXj)

295 289 my advice for retirement is keep yourself busy. we gutted our house last year. glad that's done. i never run out of shit that needs to be done.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (KP5rU)


Every marriage needs to go through one major remodel. You Sir are a glutton for fucking punishment.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (aA3+G)

296 There is a Lakewood neighborhood in Atlanta as well.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (PUmDY)

297 Retirement? Probably will involve an ice floe.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (NWiLs)

298 torabora: no less than the authors of Freakonomics claimed, it's believed abortion from 1973 onwards is a major factor why there's less crime overall in the US today.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (miE9U)

299 Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (PUmDY)

You a fan of Nils Lofgren?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (aA3+G)

300 Thanks MH. They did a parvo test which came out negative so thank God for that. So she just has some GI issue which they're gong to treat symptomatically.

Did you get the pic I sent?

Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (fMHxR)

301 I have a bro-in-law who's said, he'll be able to retire about three months after he's dead.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:17 PM (miE9U)

302 298 torabora: no less than the authors of Freakonomics claimed, it's believed abortion from 1973 onwards is a major factor why there's less crime overall in the US today.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (miE9U)


So we import the crime now? Awesome. Talk about free trade.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:17 PM (aA3+G)

303 265 that's just another example that many many thinkers are broken, and people are just making up stuff with their emotions.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:17 PM (xIKXj)

304 MisHum, I know, we gotta keep the ball rollin' :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:18 PM (miE9U)

305 236 I'd smoke that woman's pants meth. All of it.
Posted by: Hunter Biden


Why? You've made so much money on corrupt business deals, you can afford non-pants meth.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 11:18 PM (+lVUW)

306 Oh yeah. Great

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:18 PM (PUmDY)

307 295; mh, it actually went better than i expected. well worth the fucking mess.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (KP5rU)

308 277 thathalf

Will do.

1) Fund your employer-sponsored 401k the second you become eligible to contribute. Capture the employer match even if you have to sacrifice on something else.

2) There is a time value to money. Over any 10-year period since 1900 (I think), the stock market hasoutperformed EVERYTHING. That's where you want your 401k money be! Buy a Vanguard Total Market Return Fund, or one of Vanguard's other index funds. You won't have to worry about anything, ever. (This assumes that you aren't interested in actively managing your own investments.)

Posted by: mnw at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (Cssks)

309 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (miE9U)
Completely agree. My younger brothers and our pops went to see Candace Owens speak tonight. I got the first invite but turned it down mainly because I don't need to be at a Republican conversion convention and that's because Republicans suck asshole.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (IYHxL)

310 Did you get the pic I sent?
Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:16 PM (fMHxR)

I'm not sure, I have a very full In-Box at the moment.

Glad it's not parvo, thats bad shit.

My guy got into moldy wood chips when he was a pup, he had stuff coming out of both ends. Frightened me senseless. ER vet on a Saturday night in a strange town.

It all turned out well.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (aA3+G)

311 my advice for retirement is keep yourself busy. we gutted our house last year. glad that's done. i never run out of shit that needs to be done.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

I agree, we made a little hobby farm, with goats and chickens. Then bought a lake cottage 4-5 years ago. Oh, and did do an addition to the house 6-7 years ago.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:20 PM (Rz2Nc)

312 According to leaks, Trump is asking for paperwork to Pardon SEAL Chief Gallagher, on Memorial Day, along with other Military folks charged with 'War crimes'.
Posted by: Don Q


Can't wait to hear the NeverTurniper's silence and inner rage on the matter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2019 11:20 PM (cXV7n)

313 My Honey Do list will outlast the heat death of the universe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 18, 2019 11:20 PM (u82oZ)

314 MH , he is playing City Winery here next weekend 2 nights.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (PUmDY)

315 Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:18 PM (PUmDY)

He's coming to your town.
I saw his opening show in Minneapolis.
Awesome

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (aA3+G)

316 265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?
Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)


They keep demanding smaller class sizes.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (l5VZD)

317 Just read elsewhere on the web, during WW2, Mexico was asked by Germany if they wanted to ally with them against the US. Mexico declined when they figured out they'd still never win the American southwest back.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (miE9U)

318 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:14 PM (aA3+G)

MH, you gve me great advice on the day of, and, for that I will ALWAYS appreciate you and what you do for the Horde.
You are the fucking truth fam!

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:22 PM (IYHxL)

319 Misanthropic Humanitarian

Great joke tonight. And in the top picture, I bet no one even thinks of criticizing her bread.

Hope you and yours have recovered from your long drive.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 18, 2019 11:22 PM (u82oZ)

320 316 265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?
Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)


They keep demanding smaller class sizes.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (l5VZD)


Well with the birthrate dropping to all time lows, their wishes may come true, along with some pink slips and freezing of wasteful school building, etc.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:23 PM (aA3+G)

321 The dreaded second season of Buck Rogers is on.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (//+WH)

The costume design took a step back in the second season.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 18, 2019 11:23 PM (jp0Bv)

322 Hope you and yours have recovered from your long drive.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 18, 2019 11:22 PM (u82oZ)

Thank you Salty.
Back home in one piece.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:23 PM (aA3+G)

323 MH, never been to Minnesota. You live there?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:24 PM (PUmDY)

324 They keep demanding smaller class sizes.

Well, killing off students will definitely do that. And re: the Freakonomics freaks, shouldn't there be less of everything since there's less people?

Teh maths: how do it work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:24 PM (HaL55)

325 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

That's what I like to hear. My pops who still has two and half, I say half because my sister will be 21 this year, kids to raise and he's nothing like the 60 year olds I've been around.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:24 PM (IYHxL)

326 Republicans don't deserve Candace Owens.

Democrats deserve a 200-ft Candace Owens made of metal who shoots fireballs from her eyes.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (rnAwa)

327  Just off the cuff it seems like a payoff to the left, a heads you win tails we lose type of thing. 

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (n13/j)

Trust me, international gambling is -highly- regulated. Highly. The credit card companies will come knocking on your door if you attempt gambling fraud, and the sites themselves will be burned to the ground for the slightest infraction. I can't even place bets at most of my Euro haunts anymore with a North American credit card. Point is, even if you found the mythical punter ready to lose a shit ton of money just to give Soros his money back, the Australian Liberals, for one, can and will mercilessly investigate anyone looking to exploit links with anyone at the gambling site. We're talking PMITA prison sentences.

More likely they offered cashouts to get people to withdraw their bets at a premium, before the official results were declared and they had to pay out the full winnings. Lots of sites do it. Always have.

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (UhoHP)

328 Colton Wall

Snake Mountain Blues
(by Townes Van Zandt)


https://youtu.be/oP1x7_NuFE4

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (xIKXj)

329 Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:24 PM (PUmDY)

I do, come through between April and September. I can't co-sign any other months and I barely cosign those months.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (IYHxL)

330 Just read elsewhere on the web, during WW2, Mexico
was asked by Germany if they wanted to ally with them against the US.
Mexico declined when they figured out they'd still never win the
American southwest back.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (miE9U)

They probably had their fill of German and French meddling at that point. The Pancho Villa and General Pershing stuff probably was still on their mind too.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (n13/j)

331 He has been subbing in the few Neil Young Crazy Horse shows.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:26 PM (PUmDY)

332 1) Fund your employer-sponsored 401k the second you become eligible to contribute. Capture the employer match even if you have to sacrifice on something else.

2) There is a time value to money. Over any 10-year period since 1900 (I think), the stock market has outperformed EVERYTHING. That's where you want your 401k money be! Buy a Vanguard Total Market Return Fund, or one of Vanguard's other index funds. You won't have to worry about anything, ever. (This assumes that you aren't interested in actively managing your own investments.)

Posted by: mnw at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (Cssks)


EXCELLENT advice.

Another bit of advice: don't monkey around trying to time the market. By trying to time the market you will successfully avoid the run ups, and consistently hit the downturns. Most run ups occur over a very short time. If you're out of the market then, and pile in when they occur, you're an excellent bet to be paying top dollar. That's giving hostages to fortune.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:26 PM (if8r4)

333 97
What happened in Australia?

Easy Prosperity Producing White Guilt + Muslims Funding Destruction of All Western Values.

Posted by: Continually Evolving Yet, Still an Idiot at May 18, 2019 11:26 PM (NnG5Q)

334 Republicans don't deserve Candace Owens.

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As long as she knows her place.

Posted by: Mitt Romney, Severe Conservative & Leading Republican at May 18, 2019 11:26 PM (4knXT)

335 Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (rnAwa)

To me, Candance Owens is Tupac Shakur. They are built and not organic, it doesn't make their content less important but they seem very manufactured.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:27 PM (IYHxL)

336 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (aA3+G)

Worse, the first emergency vet didn't have any parvo tests left, so I had to drive to another emergency vet farther away.

They have her in the back now administering fluids & meds; hopefully I'll be done & a few hundred $s poorer in a few minutes.

On the upside she should be out of it tonight so Average Wife & I will get a good night's sleep. Have to get up early to go visit my dad so it'll be appreciated.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:27 PM (fMHxR)

337

Does anyone here have any experience with the R-134a stop-leak crap they sell? My F-150 has a slow leak and I was wondering about that.

I noticed the thing was cycling and picked up a couple cans of R-134a. Then got home, and noticed I already had two full cans and a partial one left. It took a little over a can to get back right.

It will last all season, but leak down by next summer.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:28 PM (NMAzL)

338


Posted by: mnw at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (Cssks)

Thank you! Looking into what you told me to tomorrow as tonight would yield fuzzy memories.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:28 PM (IYHxL)

339 qdpsteve
I have been to Las Vegas New Mexico.
It is actually quite a bit older than Las Vegas Nevada.
You can have some fun there if you are interested in old buildings, and they have some nice restaurants and such.
I drove through in July one year and they had just received about a foot of hail on the road so it looked like snow.

Posted by: alamogordo at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (A4j5S)

340 323 MH, never been to Minnesota. You live there?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:24 PM (PUmDY)

No, I live in WI.
But see quite a few shows there.
Have a daughter who lives there
Go fishing there usually one week a year.

Minneapolis is a bit closer to me than Milwaukee is.
Madison is closer but they don't have a lot of shows there that I would want to see.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (aA3+G)

341
It will last all season
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:28 PM (NMAzL)

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Not if you huff it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (4knXT)

342 317 Just read elsewhere on the web, during WW2, Mexico was asked by Germany if they wanted to ally with them against the US. Mexico declined when they figured out they'd still never win the American southwest back.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM


Same thing during WW1 too didn't they? Wasn't that actually part of the justification to enter? The Brits had got the communication between Germany and Mexico that if we entered against the Germans then they wanted Mexico to join them and would assist in reclaiming the Southwest.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2019 11:30 PM (l5VZD)

343 Willie Nelson's son's band, Promise of The Real that has been backing Neil is very good when he wants to rock.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:31 PM (PUmDY)

344 331 He has been subbing in the few Neil Young Crazy Horse shows.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:26 PM (PUmDY)

So I've heard.

I guess he's been filling in for Pancho, not sure whats up with him.

But if you can see Nils, go for it. Our show was 2 hours long. Great stories, great music. Just a wonderful evening.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:32 PM (aA3+G)

345 Same thing during WW1 too didn't they? Wasn't that actually part of the justification to enter? The Brits had got the communication between Germany and Mexico that if we entered against the Germans then they wanted Mexico to join them and would assist in reclaiming the Southwest.

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The infamous Zimmerman Telegram. It had nothing to do with Bob Dylan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:32 PM (4knXT)

346 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (aA3+G)

TBF Madison is a college city so when you OFFICIALLY hit post-29 that scene is played out.

At least with a wife in tow.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:32 PM (IYHxL)

347 Does anyone here have any experience with the R-134a stop-leak crap they sell? My F-150 has a slow leak and I was wondering about that.

I noticed the thing was cycling and picked up a couple cans of R-134a. Then got home, and noticed I already had two full cans and a partial one left. It took a little over a can to get back right.

It will last all season, but leak down by next summer.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:28 PM (NMAzL)


Contrarian take: so ... basically you have to pay $10 a summer to have AC all summer ? Sounds like a deal to me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:32 PM (if8r4)

348 alamogordo, I wouldn't mind exploring LVNM.
I also want to try New Mexicaon cuisine, beyond just green chiles on a burger :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:33 PM (miE9U)

349 Buzzion, wow.
Glad Mexico was always smart enough to say no.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (miE9U)

350 288 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)


Uh ... isn't that the job of the candidate?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Yup. Wasn't a problem for Trump.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (+lVUW)

351 1) Fund your employer-sponsored 401k the second you become eligible to contribute. Capture the employer match even if you have to sacrifice on something else.

2) There is a time value to money. Over any 10-year period since 1900 (I think), the stock market hasoutperformed EVERYTHING. That's where you want your 401k money be! Buy a Vanguard Total Market Return Fund, or one of Vanguard's other index funds. You won't have to worry about anything, ever. (This assumes that you aren't interested in actively managing your own investments.)

Posted by: mnw at May 18, 2019 11:19 PM (Cssks)

401k are awesome, but not all will offer Vanguard, so basically whatever index fund you're 401k offer should be good in an up market. In a bear market you'll suffer in an index fund. That's fine if you are young and working still, the index fund will rebound quick, too.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (Rz2Nc)

352 At least with a wife in tow.
Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:32 PM (IYHxL)

Well, I usually tow her along with me to concerts.

After 37 years I still don't have her figured out. And I'll be damned if I'm going to try and figure out some other gal.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (aA3+G)

353 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:32 PM (if8r4)

What's up Jay?

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (IYHxL)

354 I have been to Alpine Valley about 12 times. went to the 89 3 night Dead run with Mydland.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:35 PM (PUmDY)

355 The funny thing was, the Zimmerman Telegram was widely suspected to be an administration forgery until Kraut Foreign Secretary Zimmerman admitted he wrote it in a news interview.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:35 PM (4knXT)

356 Just read elsewhere on the web, during WW2, Mexico was asked by Germany if they wanted to ally with them against the US. Mexico declined when they figured out they'd still never win the American southwest back.
Posted by: qdpste

The Zimmerman Telegram that the US intercepted. Germany promised to give to Mexico Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2019 11:36 PM (XROPS)

357 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (aA3+G)

For a 29 year old that's amazing math! And I was promised we don't do that occult shit here!
However your last statement; I don't blame you my man!

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:36 PM (IYHxL)

358
Same thing during WW1 too didn't they? Wasn't that actually part of the justification to enter? The Brits had got the communication between Germany and Mexico that if we entered against the Germans then they wanted Mexico to join them and would assist in reclaiming the Southwest.
Posted by: Buzzion
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I post again, a link to 'Defense Scheme #1', wherein our polite Canadian neighbors make certain plans:

http://tinyurl.com/yaae6qpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 11:36 PM (xSo9G)

359
Does anyone here have any experience with the R-134a stop-leak crap they sell? My F-150 has a slow leak and I was wondering about that.

If it's a tiny leak, it will work for the Summer, like you said.

Well worth it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 11:37 PM (//+WH)

360 "For many a dark hour
I look up to the sky
Many unkind thoughts are laid
Upon my hazy eyes
Sometimes I get to thinking'
Why wait around to die
But I don't think of you
So I get by"

Colter Wall, Codeine Dream

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:39 PM (xIKXj)

361 Worse, the first emergency vet didn't have any parvo tests left, so I had to drive to another emergency vet farther away.

They have her in the back now administering fluids & meds; hopefully I'll be done & a few hundred $s poorer in a few minutes.

On the upside she should be out of it tonight so Average Wife & I will get a good night's sleep. Have to get up early to go visit my dad so it'll be appreciated.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:27 PM (fMHxR)

You're at the emergency vet now? Good luck, I hope everything turns out ok.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:39 PM (Rz2Nc)

362 Uh ... isn't that the job of the candidate?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Yup. Wasn't a problem for Trump.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (+lVUW)


"Will one of you clowns please tell me what I stand for?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:40 PM (if8r4)

363
My 2001 Navigator took its first 2 cans back in 2015, and has been fine since. If it's a slow leak like that (old age), that stuff works great.

If the condenser is damaged or the line fittings are junk, the leak is too big for that stuff.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 11:40 PM (//+WH)

364 What's up Jay?
Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:34 PM (IYHxL)


Not much, my brother. How are you?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:41 PM (if8r4)

365 What happened in Australia?

The New York Times and Washington Post had their front-page stories already written - this was going to be the Climate Change Election.

The stories would say even Australian rural farmers now accept the reality of climate change, since there have been some bad fires recently (because Australia has no history of fires, of course).

Apparently the logic these voters was supposed to follow was:

1) Climate change is real, because Australia has fires.

2) The Australian economy should be wrecked to reduce the 1% or so of global CO2 emissions that Australia emits, while the Chinese laughingly build more coal plants.

3) As with all "Green New Deal" proposals, the whole point is to transfer wealth and political power from rural and suburban people to inner-city "activists".

Unfortunately, actual voters disagreed with this.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 11:41 PM (I2/tG)

366 What can be commented upon, has been commented upon.

Posted by: Miklos, Hread of Patent and Comment Department, 1902 at May 18, 2019 11:41 PM (QzkSJ)

367 The kid is right. Most everything is a f*cking crisis these days.

Posted by: Every cat everywhere at May 18, 2019 11:41 PM (EZebt)

368 I post again, a link to 'Defense Scheme #1', wherein our polite Canadian neighbors make certain plans:

http://tinyurl.com/yaae6qpg
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 11:36 PM (xSo9G)


And I note that all the points along the front have Canada doing things like "offensive" and "occupy" and "converge"... except the Great Lakes.

Here, the best they can hope for is "defensive posture".

So keep that in mind. The Great Lakes states are America's last best hope against the Canuckistani hordes.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 18, 2019 11:42 PM (t+qrx)

369 Feline sock off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 18, 2019 11:42 PM (EZebt)

370 Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of
school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these
kids work hard!

That's a great band. Not many guys in it

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Yeah, that's the deal with wind bands in Japan. Guys do the jock thing.

High school coach asks the linebacker why he quit the team to join the marching band; "well coach the girls in the band just are prettier and smell better the the girls on the football team."

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 11:43 PM (9Gcv4)

371 The Zimmerman Telegram that the US intercepted. Germany promised to give to Mexico Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

Yeah, that would've worked. (insert eyeroll thingy here)
I bet they'd take Glorious People's Republik of California if we offered it to them now. From what I hear, it's nearly all Communist/Progressive now. All the work's been done for them already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:43 PM (HaL55)

372 More likely they offered cashouts to get people to
withdraw their bets at a premium, before the official results were
declared and they had to pay out the full winnings. Lots of sites do it.
Always have.

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 11:25 PM (UhoHP)
I wansn't really suggesting anything sinister since I really have no idea what could help them by doing this. The result is they paid of both sides, all bets won. If I really had to guess, it is lefty hubris and this company was trying to spike the football in conservatives faces, conservatives on both side of the planet.

I am not a gambler but you might want to look into the story more. These were bets made for labour to win and the payoff is set when you make the bet. The odds don't change latter, the bet is made and that is your payoff amount if you win, it is on the ticket. They paid off the losing side. And again, this happened in 2016 too.with the Irish bookie Paddy Power.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:43 PM (n13/j)

373 "Will one of you clowns please tell me what I stand for?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

O'Barky begins "Democratic Unity Fund"

Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Miklos, highly paid strategerist at May 18, 2019 11:44 PM (QzkSJ)

374 367 The kid is right. Most everything is a f*cking crisis these days.
Posted by: Every cat everywhere at May 18, 2019 11:41 PM (EZebt)


Everything except illegal immigration, opiods, the national debt, and Islamic terrorism, that is.

But we're tackling the plastic straw crisis, so we've got our priorities straight.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:44 PM (if8r4)

375
I was reading -- the stop leak is some compound that (is supposed) to swell the O-ring material. Most of the old age leaks are the O-rings shriking, getting brittle. This stuff is supposed to swell them back up.

If it's more than that, the stuff doesn't work. It would not plug a pin hole or anything like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:44 PM (NMAzL)

376 High school coach asks the linebacker why he quit the team to join the
marching band; "well coach the girls in the band just are prettier and
smell better the the girls on the football team."



...and there goes a perfectly good mouthful of Guinness...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:44 PM (HaL55)

377 Good times...

https://tinyurl.com/y67lao23

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:45 PM (PUmDY)

378 Madison is closer but they don't have a lot of shows there that I would want to see.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (aA3+G)

Not in to watching the hairy-pitted wymyns marching in pussy hats for the abortions they are never going to need?

**so glad I don't live there any more**

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 18, 2019 11:45 PM (vVOK2)

379 Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:36 PM (IYHxL)

Math with a magic wand

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:45 PM (aA3+G)

380 qdpsteve.
There are a LOT of New Mexico dishes other than green chile burgers.
Maybe try a chimichanga, it's nothing like what they have at Taco Bell.
If you like the spicy, there are a lot of nice moles to be had, and things other than taco salad, too!
I can't eat hot chiles, but I find a lot of other good foods to be had.
Just watch out for the hipster fusion type place, they go too far with some traditional dishes.

Posted by: alamogordo at May 18, 2019 11:46 PM (A4j5S)

381 I bet they'd take Glorious People's Republik of California if we offered it to them now.

They'd be idiots to do that. With all the money that gets sent to Mexico from Mexicans in California, why wreck a good thing? If Mexico ran California, it'd be like Oaxaca or Chihuahua in no time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:46 PM (if8r4)

382 It's pretty tiring to wait for a thread to appear, and you keep refreshing, and refreshing, over and over, and then it appears...and even though it appears hours later, it still has the timestamp that says, "Ha ha ha. loser. I was here the whole time, must be your browser, couldn't be the website."
I understand this issue might take #twoweeks or, like, way more than that. Like, "two weeks...on Neptune! Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha! Two weeks on Neptune is five thousand years! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
Or, you know, something similar to that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 18, 2019 11:46 PM (l9m7l)

383 And I note that all the points along the front have Canada doing things like "offensive" and "occupy" and "converge"... except the Great Lakes.
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Last time I posted that, AOP pointed out that the Canadians figured out that us retaining Seattle and Portland more damaging than the Canadians having them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 11:47 PM (xSo9G)

384 Why? You've made so much money on corrupt business deals, you can afford non-pants meth.
Posted by: nerdygirl

The police report did not mention that a copy of the Women's Fashion Supplement to the 1974 JC Penney's catalogue was also found in young Mr. Biden's rental car.

Posted by: Miklos, with anonymous sources, like everybody at May 18, 2019 11:47 PM (QzkSJ)

385 O'Barky begins "Democratic Unity Fund"

Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: Miklos, highly paid strategerist at May 18, 2019 11:44 PM (QzkSJ)


Great news. They've got Barky as their thought leader. Their troubles are over.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:48 PM (if8r4)

386
They'd be idiots to do that. With all the money that gets sent to Mexico from Mexicans in California, why wreck a good thing? If Mexico ran California, it'd be like Oaxaca or Chihuahua in no time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:46 PM (if8r4)

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My neighborhood would be an American festung.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:48 PM (4knXT)

387 The bread maker is three fingered Sam. It's a MAN, baby.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 18, 2019 11:48 PM (xNAv5)

388
Re huffing freon. I had never heard of that until a few years ago when there was some story of some idiot found dead next to a condensing unit.

The fool was attempting to huff the shit and asphyxiated his fool self. Sounds like something Florida Man would do.

I didn't know the hydro-flourocarbons had any kind of physiological effect other than oxygen displacement.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:48 PM (NMAzL)

389 I'm so over airbnb bashing. Find me any business the size of Aibnb and a certain % of customers will have horror stories about their experiences.

I've had good experiences with AirBnb and VRBO. I can't count the number of times I've used it, probably 25, 30. It's like anything else, use your instinct. If a listing looks shady, don't book it.

Same with Uber. I've taken hundreds of rides. Never any issues. Yet the way the MSM treats Uber you'd think 1/3 of all passengers were raped or killed by their driver.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:49 PM (FiUMj)

390 I didn't know the hydro-flourocarbons had any kind of physiological effect other than oxygen displacement.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:48 PM (NMAzL)

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Remember: somebody was the first person to discover that you could get high by licking a toad.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:50 PM (4knXT)

391 Last time I posted that, AOP pointed out that the Canadians figured out that us retaining Seattle and Portland more damaging than the Canadians having them.

I have driven behind a Canadian Army convoy in Washington headed for Fort Lewis for maneuvers, so I've guess they've won without firing a shot.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 11:50 PM (I2/tG)

392 Joe di Genova:
Remember, that briefing of
President-elect Trump occurred on January 6th. And the day before on
January 5th there was a meeting in the White House with President Obama,
Vice President Biden, James Comey, Sally Yates and Susan Rice. And what
were they discussing? The counter intellgence investigation against the
incoming president of the United States. Barack Obama knew that James
Comey was going to blackmail the incoming president of the United
States.

Posted by: undocumented illegal so-called Internet Influencer at May 18, 2019 11:50 PM (e8kgV)

393 alamogordo, thanks for the tips! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:50 PM (miE9U)

394 The fool was attempting to huff the shit and asphyxiated his fool self. Sounds like something Florida Man would do.

I didn't know the hydro-fluorocarbons had any kind of physiological effect other than oxygen displacement.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:48 PM (NMAzL)


AFAIK, they don't. But displacing oxygen is good enough to asphyxiate the genius who huffs the stuff.

See also, drowning, and nitrogen asphyxiation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:51 PM (if8r4)

395 Hubby Alamo and I will be seeing Steve Miller with Marty Stuart at Sandia Casino up in Albuquerque in August. I think it will be a fun show.

Posted by: alamogordo at May 18, 2019 11:51 PM (A4j5S)

396 My neighborhood would be an American festung.
Posted by: Cicero

And so festive!

Posted by: Fey Miklos at May 18, 2019 11:52 PM (QzkSJ)

397 Finally.

G-babies are asleep.

Posted by: SMH at May 18, 2019 11:52 PM (RU4sa)

398 378 Madison is closer but they don't have a lot of shows there that I would want to see.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (aA3+G)

Not in to watching the hairy-pitted wymyns marching in pussy hats for the abortions they are never going to need?

**so glad I don't live there any more**
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 18, 2019 11:45 PM (vVOK2)


I was born there. Mom & Dad moved to NE WI when I was 4. Still have some family friends and relatives there. But try to avoid it like the plague.

The older I get at age 29, I find myself withdrawing from people I have nothing in common with. The Thursday nigh can't make America great , abortion is our right , yadda yadda speeches at the commencement ceremony had steam coming out of my ears.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:52 PM (aA3+G)

399 Remember: somebody was the first person to discover that you could get high by licking a toad.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:50 PM (4knXT)


Ever wonder how many toads that person licked to no effect before they hit the money toad?

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 18, 2019 11:52 PM (t+qrx)

400 "Will one of you clowns please tell me what I stand for?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:40 PM (if8r4)

I deserve to be president because it's my turn and I stood by my serial rapist husband, I've even destroyed the women he rapped.

Somehow that didn't resonate with the voters.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:53 PM (Rz2Nc)

401 I didn't even know Australia had an election. And I'm usually on top of election in 1st world lands. Awesome to hear the news though.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:53 PM (FiUMj)

402 If Mexico ran California, it'd be like Oaxaca or Chihuahua in no time.

This is Victor Davis Hanson's hypothesis - that as California and the American Southwest become increasingly indistinguishable from Mexico, the incentives to illegally immigrate to those areas will be reduced.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 11:53 PM (I2/tG)

403 hola pachucos

Posted by: E. Stan Bull at May 18, 2019 11:53 PM (B+t5k)

404 We are also heading up to Minnesota in June, to Maple Lake to visit one brother, then up to Lake of the Woods area to visit my other brother.
Hoping to catch some nice walleyes and whatever else. I need to restock the freezer with walleye. Can't not have that lovely fish to eat when I get homesick.

Posted by: alamogordo at May 18, 2019 11:53 PM (A4j5S)

405

Some random thoughts on retirement gleaned over the last several years.

Old age isn't what kills retirees, it's the honey-do list.

The first year, you may consider going back to work to get some rest.

Finally, if you are stressed out with so much to do, realize that it's self inflicted--you DID retire.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 18, 2019 11:54 PM (KATBx)

406
Remember: somebody was the first person to discover that you could get high by licking a toad.

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Hell, someone was the first to eat a raw oyster.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 11:54 PM (9Gcv4)

407 This is Victor Davis Hanson's hypothesis - that as California and the American Southwest become increasingly indistinguishable from Mexico, the incentives to illegally immigrate to those areas will be reduced.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 11:53 PM (I2/tG)

___

Federal welfare pays the same whether a county is 0% or 100% Hispanic. That is the attraction.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:54 PM (FiUMj)

408 >>>>Remember: somebody was the first person to discover that you could get high by licking a toad.


It wasn't some one it was Ellie, mid-kids Corgi Stumpy who did thar

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:55 PM (aA3+G)

409 See also, drowning, and nitrogen asphyxiation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18



Ban dihydrogen monoxide NOW!

For the children!

Posted by: Miklos, raising awareness and maybe also funds at May 18, 2019 11:56 PM (QzkSJ)

410 Remember: somebody was the first person to discover that you could get high by licking a toad.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 11:50 PM (4knXT)


But Victor Meyer was the first person to discover that placing mustard gas - which he'd just synthesized - on your tongue was a bad idea.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:56 PM (if8r4)

411 149 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)

I recall that they considered "I'm ready for Hillary" and "It's her turn".
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And * Its about fuckin time *

Posted by: Granddork at May 18, 2019 11:56 PM (kR3UB)

412 I am not a gambler but you might want to look into the story more. These were bets made for labour to win and the payoff is set when you make the bet. The odds don't change latter, the bet is made and that is your payoff amount if you win, it is on the ticket. They paid off the losing side. And again, this happened in 2016 too.with the Irish bookie Paddy Power. 

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:43 PM (n13/j)

Online sites are a different kettle, which is why I insist on this. Bet365, for one example, offers "cash out" awards that ate designed to get people to withdraw their bets before payouts must be made. The amount you get back from a cashout may be partial, or your whole initial bet, or whole bet + a percent of what you could expect to win. Lots of sites use this to get people wary of last minute hykey doings (like in Michigan at 3 AM) a chance to get out early, in exchange for losing some of the payout they may expect.

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 11:57 PM (UhoHP)

413 Remember: somebody was the first person to discover that you could get high by licking a toad.


It wasn't some one it was Ellie





Show me a toad licking Ellie Mae, and I'm in.

Posted by: Miklos Clampett (a third cousin twice removed) at May 18, 2019 11:58 PM (QzkSJ)

414 I am still amazed at the number of people who think that HRC was the perfect candidate, the lamb without blemish.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 11:58 PM (w7KSn)

415 414 I am still amazed at the number of people who think that HRC was the perfect candidate, the lamb without blemish.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 11:58 PM (w7KSn)


Me too. Good thing Ed Gein wasn't the Democrat candidate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:59 PM (if8r4)

416 Some random thoughts on retirement gleaned over the last several years.

Old age isn't what kills retirees, it's the honey-do list.

The first year, you may consider going back to work to get some rest.

Finally, if you are stressed out with so much to do, realize that it's self inflicted--you DID retire.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 18, 2019 11:54 PM (KATBx)

I was able to retire early. What I have found is I miss the stress of deadlines. I make up small stuff to get stressed about. Maybe my wife needs to make a more challenging honey do list.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:59 PM (Rz2Nc)

417 They'd be idiots to do that. With all the money that gets sent to Mexico
from Mexicans in California, why wreck a good thing? If Mexico ran
California, it'd be like Oaxaca or Chihuahua in no time.


My half-assed brother took me on a liquor run to Tijuana when I visited him in San Diego back in '79. What a shithole that place was. Cheap booze, tho', so it was a wash.


The donkey in the street that was spray-painted to look like a zebra pretty much said everything there was to say about the area. The chihuahua tacos weren't bad.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 19, 2019 12:00 AM (HaL55)

418 Hell, someone was the first to eat a raw oyster.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 11:54 PM (9Gcv4)


Or to eat a lobster.

"Hey, I know, let's boil up this gigantic effing cockroach and eat it!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:00 AM (if8r4)

419 Yes, Mr. Christopher Fitzgibbon appears to be Vexatious and a possible Genius Award Winner.

++++

I gotta admit, he is Vexatious. But you wanna know what is even more Vexatious?

Speed bumps. Those things are 100x more Vexatious than the twit.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2019 12:01 AM (k5p6v)

420 I took up with a pretty thing from Asheville.
I loved her more than life and told her so.
She took it tween her fingers nice and natural
And sucked it to the filter like a pro.

Posted by: Robbie Fulks at May 19, 2019 12:01 AM (p6Q7Q)

421 But Victor Meyer was the first person to discover that placing mustard gas - which he'd just synthesized - on your tongue was a bad idea.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

His brother Oscar made the serious money. Never successfully tried for crimes against humanity, either.

Posted by: Miklos, a ketchup-on-hot-dog-putter at May 19, 2019 12:02 AM (QzkSJ)

422 I remember hearing people speak of Hilz as a June Cleaver type. Stunning.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 12:02 AM (RuIsu)

423 414 I am still amazed at the number of people who think that HRC was the perfect candidate

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Who thought that? Nobody. Everyone, even Dems knew she was a pretty shitty candidate. They just figured no way in hell Trump could possibly win, so whatevs.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:02 AM (FiUMj)

424
It was thing for a while in some of these trendy pool parties to pour liquid N2 into the pool. It gave a cool fog effect.

Until several people starting passing out and a few died from the oxygen displacement. The boiling, cool N2 gas lowered the O2 concentration.

Then there was a another crazy thing. Liquid N2 in some mixed drink which gave the same fog effect.

It was all fun and games until someone put too much in and some girl swallowed a slug of liquid N2 and did great damage to her esophagus.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:02 AM (NMAzL)

425 Here is what I have learned about retirement:

a) Stay off of ladders and roofs.
b) Listen more, talk less. When you do speak, be concise.
c) Find something to be happy about, every day. Being cheerful is a daily obligation. No one likes an old grumpy person. You don't want to die friendless and hated.
d) Floss.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 12:03 AM (w7KSn)

426 I don't think I'll ever fully retire. I like making money too much. I'll work less as I get older, but retire, in the traditional sense? I can't see it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (FiUMj)

427 About recent elections and the "shy right-wing voter" hypothesis:

It occurs to me that after Obama's victories, many people kept their Obama bumper stickers on their cars in Portland for years afterwards, to celebrate, and to show how virtuous they are.

I live in a suburban Oregon county that voted more than 45% for Trump, and there are no Trump bumper stickers on cars. None. People realize that it would be an open invitation to have their car vandalized, particularly when they drive into Portland.

Wearing a MAGA hat in Portland would likely get you assaulted, of course. The cops would do nothing.

As the Left successfully narrows the range of political views that you can express publicly, it becomes increasingly difficult to determine how many right-wing voters are actually out there.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (I2/tG)

428 I would like to see mandatory voting, if only to clean up the dead folks on the list.

Posted by: Downcast at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (p6Q7Q)

429 421 But Victor Meyer was the first person to discover that placing mustard gas - which he'd just synthesized - on your tongue was a bad idea.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

His brother Oscar made the serious money. Never successfully tried for crimes against humanity, either.
Posted by: Miklos, a ketchup-on-hot-dog-putter at May 19, 2019 12:02 AM (QzkSJ)


For those who are unfamiliar with mustard gas, it's the worst shit on earth, IMO. It causes enormous, excruciating blisters that break, weep, reform, break again for weeks.

The idea of putting it on your tongue? /shudder

You'd be better off putting a red hot iron on your tongue. Srsly. Because it's a one-off; once burn that heals, that's it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (if8r4)

430 I remember hearing people speak of Hilz as a June Cleaver type. Stunning.
Posted by: Burger Chef

FUN FACT

President Bill Clinton had all meat cleavers, and most other sharp objects removed from the White House.

Posted by: Miklos, the best presidential historian you're likely to get at this hour at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (QzkSJ)

431
I looked it up. That N2 drink incident occurred in Britain in 2012. And her esophagus was okay. It burned a hole in her stomach and they had to remove her stomach to save her life. So she goes through life with no stomach, which is a bitch.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:06 AM (NMAzL)

432 I live in a suburban Oregon county that voted more than 45% for Trump, and there are no Trump bumper stickers on cars. None. People realize that it would be an open invitation to have their car vandalized, particularly when they drive into Portland.

A liberal acquaintance once decried "right-wing violence." I told him I'd put a Bernie or Hillarhoid sticker on my car, if he'd put a Trump sticker on his.

End of conversation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:07 AM (if8r4)

433 The older I get at age 29, I find myself withdrawing from people I have
nothing in common with.


*fistbump* I grok you, dude.

Can't remember his name, but I really identify with the guy in the Bible who said (paraphrasing because Guinness), "I don't know what everybody else is going to do, but for me and my family, we're going to follow God."

That seems to make more and more sense the closer I get to 29. Fuck the rest of the world. Looks like it's gone batshit crazy anyway.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 19, 2019 12:07 AM (HaL55)

434 422 I remember hearing people speak of Hilz as a June Cleaver type. Stunning.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 12:02 AM (RuIsu)

I guess they heard "cleaver" and thought "yeah, someday she'll snap all right."

Which is, by the way, why the Democrat margin of fraud hit its limit in 2016. I guarantee people were being measured for nooses over failing to deliver in the Steel Belt. They'll never enjoy that lack of scrutiny again, between the American revolutionaries and Donald Trump himself.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:07 AM (UhoHP)

435 Dems didn't cheat in 2016, because they didn't think they had do. For 2020.....it will be a tsunami of cheating. That's what worries me the most about next year.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:09 AM (FiUMj)

436 d) Floss.

Whose teeth?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 19, 2019 12:09 AM (HaL55)

437 "Dems didn't cheat in 2016..."

You mean other than using the FBI, CIA, DOJ and any other 3 letter agency against Trump and the GOP?

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 12:10 AM (w7KSn)

438 Just seeing how we're doing

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:11 AM (BbGew)

439 If Mexico ran California, it'd be like Oaxaca or Chihuahua in no time.
-=--
it pretty much already is.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:12 AM (MasTK)

440 It was thing for a while in some of these trendy pool parties to pour liquid N2 into the pool. It gave a cool fog effect.

Until several people starting passing out and a few died from the oxygen displacement. The boiling, cool N2 gas lowered the O2 concentration.


LN2 boil off is extremely dangerous because you have no sense of danger. You just get sleepier and sleepier, until you die. Peacefully.

Dry ice is another story. Inhaling CO2 is actually very unpleasant, causing a burning sensation (try it from a container of soda water), and an increase in the CO2 concentration in the blood triggers panic (respiration is not triggered by lack of O2, but by excess of CO2 in the blood).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:12 AM (if8r4)

441 Online sites are a different kettle, which is why I
insist on this. Bet365, for one example, offers "cash out" awards that
ate designed to get people to withdraw their bets before payouts must be
made. The amount you get back from a cashout may be partial, or your
whole initial bet, or whole bet + a percent of what you could expect to
win. Lots of sites use this to get people wary of last minute hykey
doings (like in Michigan at 3 AM) a chance to get out early, in exchange
for losing some of the payout they may expect.

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 11:57 PM (UhoHP)

I understand. I only mentioned this because I thought people would be interested. I said a company paid off the losing side in the election bet as if they were winners. https://tinyurl.com/y6dppke2

they say are their twitter feed that they paid out $1.3 Million to the losing side. All anyone has to do is google sportsbet australia etc.

I also mentioned Paddy Power in the 2016 election pulling the same stunt and it costing them over a million. It is on the web too, try paddy power clinton. https://tinyurl.com/y2clmskx

I do think we are discussing to different things and that is ok, it is no big deal to me. I get that someone can be paid off at a lower rate early if the other side fears a huge future loss on the bet. But as reported all over the news, that was not the case this time. I believe a bet for labor was paying something like $1.20 to $1 bet and a bet for the conserves was paying almost $7 to $1. The polls and odds said a labour landslide. Again, this company paid of labour bets three days early.

Anyway, there it is if someone is interested fine, if not, fine too.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:12 AM (n13/j)

442 I am still amazed at the number of people who think that HRC was the perfect candidate, the lamb without blemish.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 11:58 PM (w7KSn)


Yeah, that does amaze me. Corruption? What corruption? Hillary has all the warmth and personality of a hungry rattlesnake.

Thinking about it, dangerous I know, if Hillary had campaigned with Bill on a literal leash, at every photo op there he is, next to or behind her with a leash and a collar on, with Hillary holding the leash, the election might have been different. A campaign slogan could have been 'She's In Charge!' or something along those lines. I honestly think if that visual had been a part of her campaign, she might just have won.

Posted by: RickZ at May 19, 2019 12:13 AM (Y8PSl)

443 435 Dems didn't cheat in 2016, because they didn't think they had do. For 2020.....it will be a tsunami of cheating. That's what worries me the most about next year.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:09 AM (FiUMj)

Don't be so sure about that. As I've rewatched the 2016 election results videos for laughs, I notice the last districts to report are always Dem strongholds. Now I will stipulate general incompetence among Democrats, but I can't help but think there were conversations about how many votes were needed before results were reported and they were late because they were trying to figure how much fraud they could get away with.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 19, 2019 12:13 AM (jp0Bv)

444 435 Dems didn't cheat in 2016, because they didn't think they had do. For 2020.....it will be a tsunami of cheating. That's what worries me the most about next year.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:09 AM (FiUMj)

There's a reason the results weren't out until 3 in the morning in major states. The Dems -always- cheat, and while they will try to go even harder in 2020, they have a huge disadvantage with the DoJ under Trump's orders, not Obama's. The only way they'll have a big enough margin is if it's overt. But Trump had a plan to shut then up in 2016- think anyone would report it if Michigan "magically" swung to Clinton, AGAIN?

Hell, no.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:14 AM (UhoHP)

445 (respiration is not triggered by lack of O2, but by excess of CO2 in the blood).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay

Then why does the "bag trick" work to cure hiccups?

Posted by: Foster "Miklos" Brooks at May 19, 2019 12:14 AM (QzkSJ)

446 I don't think I'll ever fully retire. I like making money too much. I'll work less as I get older, but retire, in the traditional sense? I can't see it.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (FiUMj)

Make money with investments, find a hobby. Spend time with family.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 12:14 AM (Rz2Nc)

447 A liberal acquaintance once decried "right-wing violence." I told him I'd put a Bernie or Hillarhoid sticker on my car, if he'd put a Trump sticker on his.

You can still see Trump bumper stickers on cars in rural Oregon counties that voted for Trump by 30% or more, but otherwise, forget it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 12:15 AM (I2/tG)

448 It is insane that Weir would not miss a lyric of Desolation Row but would forget Truckin lyricsi

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 12:15 AM (UbWxe)

449 I was able to retire early. What I have found is I miss the stress of
deadlines. I make up small stuff to get stressed about. Maybe my wife
needs to make a more challenging honey do list.


Not me. Had to make drop dead ship dates for years in manufacturing. That usually meant lots of extra shifts and working all night sometimes to make shipments. Took a while, but I finally stopped waking up automatically at 04:30am.

Do. Not. Miss.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 19, 2019 12:16 AM (HaL55)

450 it pretty much already is.

Try going to an emergency room in a rural California county on Saturday night.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 12:16 AM (I2/tG)

451 Then why does the "bag trick" work to cure hiccups?
Posted by: Foster "Miklos" Brooks at May 19, 2019 12:14 AM (QzkSJ)


Dunno.

The bag trick works for people who are hyperventilating because by doing that they lower the CO2 concentration in the blood, sometimes enough that they stop breathing. Breathing into a bag means that they inhale a much greater concentration of CO2 than is present in air, and so continue breathing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:16 AM (if8r4)

452
I was just reading about mustard gas, and its effects. That is indeed some nasty shit. Check out pictures of the giant blisters.

There was testimony from medical staff back in WWI talking about how it was the most excruciating of anything. Men screaming in pain and nothing they could do about it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:17 AM (NMAzL)

453 One could stick a dozen files into that loaf of bread, plus a heater.

Posted by: mrp at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (Pqytn)

454 You know who hated mustard gas?


*hums the Horst Wessel Song*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (4knXT)

455
Rebreathing never would work for me. What works the best for me is the old hold your breath and gulp water.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (NMAzL)

456 I was just reading about mustard gas, and its effects. That is indeed some nasty shit. Check out pictures of the giant blisters.

There was testimony from medical staff back in WWI talking about how it was the most excruciating of anything. Men screaming in pain and nothing they could do about it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:17 AM (NMAzL)


I've worked with it. And can speak of the pain from experience.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (if8r4)

457 Finally.

G-babies are asleep.
Posted by: SMH
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*heh*

Posted by: G-babies planning on bouncing on gram's bed at 0630 at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (xSo9G)

458 Anyway, there it is if someone is interested fine, if not, fine too.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:12 AM (n13/j)

Hmmm. I see what you mean. I didn't get the payout offer, so I don't know how it's structured. But after Brexit, 2011 Harper, Bolsonaro, Trump, and now Australia? If they insist on getting fucked by conservative fanboy bets, I say have at you.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:19 AM (UhoHP)

459 Anyway, there it is if someone is interested fine, if not, fine too.



Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:12 AM (n13/j)



Hmmm. I see what you mean. I didn't get the payout offer, so I don't
know how it's structured. But after Brexit, 2011 Harper, Bolsonaro,
Trump, and now Australia? If they insist on getting fucked by
conservative fanboy bets, I say have at you.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:19 AM (UhoHP)

hell if they are that in the bag I am going to bet left and vote right lol. The funny thing, the guys who voted conservative won too, but they had to wait until after the election for some reason lol.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:21 AM (n13/j)

460 Crouching Tiger - Blazing Saddles is on. They are stuck at the tollbooth.
*************************
If only.

Posted by: Zombie Sonny Corleone at May 19, 2019 12:22 AM (kR3UB)

461 I've worked with it. And can speak of the pain from experience.




If they ever start putting wasabi on burritos, you California people are done for.

Posted by: Miklos, from the school of Paul Erlich at May 19, 2019 12:22 AM (QzkSJ)

462 hell if they are that in the bag I am going to bet left and vote right lol. The funny thing, the guys who voted conservative won too, but they had to wait until after the election for some reason lol. 

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:21 AM (n13/j)

I cashed out just before Trump won. Call me a pussy, but I no shit thought TFG was going to declare martial law and all bets would be off.

Easiest money I ever made. I'd need a meth lab to make better income.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:23 AM (UhoHP)

463 I was just reading about mustard gas, and its effects. That is indeed some nasty shit. Check out pictures of the giant blisters.

It's perfectly nasty in every respect. The pure stuff is a viscous liquid, rather like maple syrup. Too gooey to weigh out, too viscous to transfer by pipette, so tough to handle. Its vapor pressure at RT is about 1 mm Hg, so kinda low to transfer by vacuum line techniques, but more than enough to burn the shit out of you.

Next, you don't feel anything for about four hours after exposure. That means you could slap the shit as aftershave, and have no ill effects for that time. After which, you'll be in agony for the month or two.

Last, but not least, the vapor dissolves in rubber, and so goes right through rubber gloves. As I found out, the hard way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:23 AM (if8r4)

464 Baking bread for the Overnight Thread!
Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (NsI03)

Is that Ma Baker?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 12:25 AM (7njPr)

465 Old age isn't what kills retirees, it's the honey-do list.

Makes you lose your will to live.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 12:25 AM (NWiLs)

466 446 I don't think I'll ever fully retire. I like making money too much. I'll work less as I get older, but retire, in the traditional sense? I can't see it.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:05 AM (FiUMj)

Make money with investments, find a hobby. Spend time with family.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 12:14 AM (Rz2Nc)

___

I like what I do for a living. It's not really "work", you know what I mean?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:25 AM (FiUMj)

467 OK Hordelings, it's bedtime for Bonzo. Good ONT as usual, MisHum.


Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 19, 2019 12:26 AM (HaL55)

468 I notice the last districts to report are always Dem strongholds.
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This. Always.

The Governor's race in Georgia is a good example.

Same thing happened in NC Governor's race. Durham County, a solid red district was the last reporting. Sadly, in NC, McCrory a damn fine Governor, lost.

The guy came into office with $3 Billion debt left by decades of Dems, left with $500 Million surplus.

Raised teacher's salaries after a 5 year moratorium by the Dems. The Dems hated him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:26 AM (CDGwz)

469 Deplorable Jay

I think the plain vanilla advice you & I offered the poster who asked, "How do I plan for retirement?" was perfect. You don't have to be E.B. White or William Faulkner to teach 8th Grade Language Arts.

When it comes to financial planning, what I want to know is, "Does investing your life savings yourself fascinate you?" If NOT, then what we said. Period, the end.

If it DOES, then it's a whole different world. I don't agree with you COMPLETELY about market timing, only to this extent: an investor can look at the S&P 500 P/E ratio & tell whether stocks are expensive or inexpensive by historical measures. I think one can, & should, adjust a portfolio toward or away from cash equivalents, based on that. However, I think ALL retirement portfolios, prior to age 65 or so, should be majority equities.

But returning to first principles, if you don't make any effort to save, then nothing can help you. That's why cat food cans say "All Meat!" in big letters.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:27 AM (Cssks)

470 Dems cheated in 2016, sure. They always cheat. But they didn't cheat in PA, WI or MI. And even in their normal cheating ways, they probably didn't go all in like they did in 2004 or 2012 (2008 was a gimme as well, didn't need to cheat then either as vigorously)

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:27 AM (FiUMj)

471 Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:27 AM (Cssks)

Fair enough. I said that because I would guess that 98% of people trying to time the market end up hosing themselves by buying high and selling low.

It takes an iron constitution to buy when the market falls out of bed, and to stand down when it's a record highs. Few people have the nerve or the judgment to do that successfully.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:29 AM (if8r4)

472 Republican govs/legislatures need to implement laws where no county/city reports until everyone else is done. Everyone reports results at the same time.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:29 AM (FiUMj)

473 As I have mentioned, a lab close to mine had a cylinder of Phosgene. Always made me a little nervous.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:30 AM (CDGwz)

474 Duterte's party in the Philipines picked up almost all the seats in the most recent election, too.

Makes me wonder what is going around.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 12:30 AM (KTmSx)

475 Not me. Had to make drop dead ship dates for years in manufacturing. That usually meant lots of extra shifts and working all night sometimes to make shipments. Took a while, but I finally stopped waking up automatically at 04:30am.

Do. Not. Miss.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 19, 2019 12:16 AM (HaL55)

I understand that. My adult life projects lasted months, so deadline was in the distant future. As a youth, my first paper route was in 5th grade, the paper had to be delivered by 8:00, I had to be at school by then. My wife was an only child on a farm. She played Librarian Research Assistant, telling the imaginary person on the play phone, "you née it Thursday, I'll have it ready Wednesday", we're both rather strange with deadlines.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 12:31 AM (Rz2Nc)

476 I cashed out just before Trump won. Call me a pussy,
but I no shit thought TFG was going to declare martial law and all bets
would be off.



Easiest money I ever made. I'd need a meth lab to make better income.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:23 AM (UhoHP)
They paid your Trump bet off early as it got closer?

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:31 AM (n13/j)

477 Here is what I have learned about retirement:

a) Stay off of ladders and roofs.
b) Listen more, talk less. When you do speak, be concise.
c) Find something to be happy about, every day. Being cheerful is a daily obligation. No one likes an old grumpy person. You don't want to die friendless and hated.
d) Floss.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 12:03 AM (w7KSn)


Inspiring! Im saving this.

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 12:31 AM (XROPS)

478 473 As I have mentioned, a lab close to mine had a cylinder of Phosgene. Always made me a little nervous.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:30 AM (CDGwz)


Phosgene is toxic as all hell, but I'd work with that long before mustard gas. You just need a good fume hood, and decent Schlenk line technique, and you're good. IIRC, phosgene is only a problem on inhalation, and that's easy enough to avoid.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (if8r4)

479 I have a nice nest egg set. But part of me thinks I'm an idiot for doing that since at some point in the future Dems will get their wish and nationalize all retirement accounts. Cuz...fairness. Why should you white man, have $1M for retirement, when poor Juan Hernandez has nothing.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (FiUMj)

480 However, I think ALL retirement portfolios, prior to age 65 or so, should be majority equities.
------

DRIP's. Stable, reliable mix of blue-chips. I also consistently sold covered calls, just because it's a no-risk way of sweeting things up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (xSo9G)

481 Durham County, a solid red district




For Certain definitions of "red"

Durham County (of Mike Nifong fame) voted 77.66% for Hill.

Posted by: Miklos hereditary Dookie at May 19, 2019 12:33 AM (QzkSJ)

482 The stainless steel sculpture is a faceless space bunny, a balloon that's not a balloon. The piece was one of 11 works that were offered from the collection of magazine publisher S.I. Newhouse, the longtime chairman of Condé Nast who died in 2017.

The "Greater Fool" theory in action.

This bunny thing is laughable. To even call it a "work of art" is a major stretch. $91 million ... LOL.

I wonder what else the Newhouse collection was selling? Art turds? Ready-made Monopoly Games still in their original boxing? Blank canvases ... you're not a real modern art lover without having a blank canvas not painted on by a famous "artiste" around ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2019 12:33 AM (vq6T3)

483 I like what I do for a living. It's not really "work", you know what I mean?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:25 AM (FiUMj)

Actually yes, I enjoyed what I did for a living , too.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 12:34 AM (Rz2Nc)

484 479 I have a nice nest egg set. But part of me thinks I'm an idiot for doing that since at some point in the future Dems will get their wish and nationalize all retirement accounts. Cuz...fairness. Why should you white man, have $1M for retirement, when poor Juan Hernandez has nothing.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (FiUMj)


Yeah, I worry about that, too.

So let's vote on it. Everyone who saved? Everyone who didn't? That's the nightmare scenario.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:34 AM (if8r4)

485 For Certain definitions of "red"

Durham County (of Mike Nifong fame) voted 77.66% for Hill.
Posted by: Miklos hereditary Dookie
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Brain cloud, dammit. 'Blue', as 'Blue' can be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:35 AM (xSo9G)

486 From Jackstraw's link of an article from 2013:

Mueller's term as director has been seen as largely successful - even amid criticism in recent weeks over the FBI's handling of the ricin letters sent to government leaders and its investigation of the men responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings - and the Obama White House has been eager for someone who will continue the path Mueller has laid out, transforming the FBI from a 20th century domestic law enforcement agency to a 21st century international intelligence agency. [b\]

Posted by: dIb at May 19, 2019 12:35 AM (VJOLZ)

487 test

Posted by: dIb at May 19, 2019 12:35 AM (VJOLZ)

488 Brain cloud, dammit. 'Blue', as 'Blue' can be.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:35 AM (xSo9G)


So not "red," but "Red."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:36 AM (if8r4)

489 ...I was just reading about mustard gas, and its effects. That is indeed some nasty shit. Check out pictures of the giant blisters.

There was testimony from medical staff back in WWI talking about how it was the most excruciating of anything. Men screaming in pain and nothing they could do about it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:17 AM (NMAzL)

I've worked with it. And can speak of the pain from experience.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (if8r4)




I've manufactured plenty of Mustard Gas over the years.

Gulden's Spicy Mustard and Hebrew National Franks tend to have that effect, y'know.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2019 12:36 AM (QzJWU)

490 I also consistently sold covered calls, just because it's a no-risk way of sweeting things up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (xSo9G)


A covered call is the same thing as a naked put - outside of minor dividend plays.

Selling covered calls is the same risk as selling naked puts, except that you take on extra risk during dividend distributions.

Just sayin' ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2019 12:36 AM (vq6T3)

491 484 479 I have a nice nest egg set. But part of me thinks I'm an idiot for doing that since at some point in the future Dems will get their wish and nationalize all retirement accounts. Cuz...fairness. Why should you white man, have $1M for retirement, when poor Juan Hernandez has nothing.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (FiUMj)

Yeah, I worry about that, too.

So let's vote on it. Everyone who saved? Everyone who didn't? That's the nightmare scenario.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:34 AM (if8r4)

___

And it's not just Juan. It's Joe and Tim and Steve who blew every penny they made on $75K boats and Vegas trips and $3000 grills and don't have a pot to piss in at retirement.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:36 AM (FiUMj)

492 They paid your Trump bet off early as it got closer?

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:31 AM (n13/j)

They gave out options over the night. At 10 PM I could make my money back. At 1 AM, most of what i could have won. At 3 AM, almost all of it. It was up to me when the play got too rough.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:37 AM (UhoHP)

493 Stable, reliable mix of blue-chips. I also consistently sold covered calls, just because it's a no-risk way of sweeting things up.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

But that requires a measure of intelligence and diligence, as well as deferred consumption.

Which is rayciss, and not to be expected.

Because That's Not Who We Are

Posted by: Miklos, angling for some sweet hard left billionaire funding at May 19, 2019 12:37 AM (QzkSJ)

494 Blank canvases ... you're not a real modern art lover without having a blank canvas not painted on by a famous "artiste" around ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
-------

I wonder if anyone has ever paid a fee for playing John Cages 4'33" ?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:38 AM (CDGwz)

495 I want to defer my consumption, but to right this second.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:38 AM (FiUMj)

496
For Certain definitions of "red"



Durham County (of Mike Nifong fame) voted 77.66% for Hill.

Posted by: Miklos hereditary Dookie

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Brain cloud, dammit. 'Blue', as 'Blue' can be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:35 AM (xSo9G)

Sounds like Travis County Texas. There are some great areas of NC but the good places always attract the left. They get their ideology from bad places that they leave. It also doesn't normally help to have a big college there with some notable exceptions.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:39 AM (n13/j)

497 Oy.

Posted by: Adriane Wot says Oy Alot These Days ... at May 19, 2019 12:39 AM (LPnfS)

498 I wonder if anyone has ever paid a fee for playing John Cages 4'33" ?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:38 AM (CDGwz)


Don't you have to pay even if you only play 10" of it?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2019 12:39 AM (vq6T3)

499 wait'll you inhale mustard gas vapor...

blisters like that, but in your lungs.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:40 AM (MasTK)

500 But that requires a measure of intelligence and diligence, as well as deferred consumption.

Which is rayciss, and not to be expected.

Because That's Not Who We Are
Posted by: Miklos
------------

A fair point. Credit card debt has a lot more appeal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:40 AM (CDGwz)

501 As a small note, the Hungarian government, under it's current leader Mr. Orban, nationalized all retirement accounts.

It has also been done to a more limited extent in Spain and Portugal, and the Dems in the US actually has hearings in Congress when they last had a majority.

Posted by: Miklos, with savings out buried next to the bait worms at May 19, 2019 12:40 AM (QzkSJ)

502 They paid your Trump bet off early as it got closer?



Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:31 AM (n13/j)



They gave out options over the night. At 10 PM I could make my money
back. At 1 AM, most of what i could have won. At 3 AM, almost all of
it. It was up to me when the play got too rough.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 12:37 AM (UhoHP)

no worries, you kept your powder dry.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:40 AM (n13/j)

503
There is some weevil killer stuff, made to kill weevils in grain stored in bins.

It is aluminum phosphide tablets, with some inert buffer. It reacts with moisture in the air to form phospine gas. I would get that confused with phosgene. Phosgene has no phosphorus.

Anyway, you open up the top of the bin, then throw a quantity of the tablets in and shut it tight. The gas is denser than air and sinks down through the grain. But you've got to be careful. That stuff will kill you dead.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:40 AM (NMAzL)

504 471 Jay

Agree entirely.

At my age, after 30 years or so as an active investor, TRYING to buy low & sell high has become second nature. (I did say "trying").

Stocks are pricey now. (DUH!). I want things that pay a high, ultra secure dividend. Stuff I can simply hold & ride out the next recession with. Some of the major integrated oils pay appx 6%, & I regard the payout as literally safer than a 10-year T-bill. Literally.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:41 AM (Cssks)

505 Just dropping in to say hi and :

Durham County, official sh*thole of NC, is 53% white. Half (or more) of those whites are leftists.

And

"have a nice nest egg set. But part of me thinks I'm an idiot for doing that since at some point in the future Dems will get their wish and nationalize all retirement accounts. Cuz...fairness."

-

That's not what will break your heart.

Your neighbors? The ones who have new boats, jet skid, drive new cars and motorcycles, are way overextended on their house, and have 20k in credit card debt?

They'll be in the same nursing home as you. Guess what they'll have to fully expend first? That's right. Nothing. Because they don't really have anything.

Guess what you'll have to burn? All the money you saved.

We're the honorable, noble ones, but we're not the smart ones.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:41 AM (lPsvG)

506 and then some, so a winner

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:41 AM (n13/j)

507 And it's not just Juan. It's Joe and Tim and Steve who blew every penny they made on $75K boats and Vegas trips and $3000 grills and don't have a pot to piss in at retirement.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:36 AM (FiUMj)


Now, see, that really pisses me off. Juan was pretty much born to be broke. I mean, how much can you make mowing lawns?

But Joe and Tim and Steve who had the boats, the vacation homes, the pricey annual vacations, etc. and don't have a pot to piss in and want a handout, those guys piss me off. Bigly.

Me and mine have done without, lived simply,frugally, and sensibly, so as to be captains of our own fate and not have to sponge off of others.

So for my part, fuck Joe and Tim and Steve. Some people's contribution to society is to serve as an example to others.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:42 AM (if8r4)

508 And for all the talk on finances, I understand it's pretty much futile now to do the "offshore account" thing.

U.S. banking laws and treaties have all but done away with "secret" accounts, be they Swiss or Cayman.

Bastards.

Anyone know of any alternatives out there?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2019 12:42 AM (QzJWU)

509 A semi-finalist was "Vote for me you fucking shitbags, Or I will make you sorry you were ever born!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (V2Yro)


That one was actually toned down from the original, "I am the angel of DEATH! My enemies will DIE!" when it polled poorly in 2010

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 12:43 AM (KTmSx)

510 Oh, Helena, I have run my cast iron through the self-cleaning oven, to burn off all the old seasoning to start again.

It is one of those things I have done with a just purchased pan or skillet.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 12:45 AM (KTmSx)

511 That stuff will kill you dead.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear
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There are multiple ways of dying/being killed by grain silos.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:45 AM (CDGwz)

512 No such thing as a secure dividend. GM paid a nice dividend....until it didn't. As did GE. As did a whole bunch of companies over the decades.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:46 AM (FiUMj)

513 Your neighbors? The ones who have new boats, jet skid, drive new cars and motorcycles, are way overextended on their house, and have 20k in credit card debt?

They'll be in the same nursing home as you. Guess what they'll have to fully expend first? That's right. Nothing. Because they don't really have anything.


To avoid just that problem, we recently invested in long term care insurance. If you croak before you need LTC, it acts as life insurance. And if you buy it when you're young and healthy enough, it's not that expensive. I strongly recommend that to those in the Horde who are in a position to do so. It just lays off risk, which at this juncture, is a high priority for me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:46 AM (if8r4)

514 There are multiple ways of dying/being killed by grain silos.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:45 AM (CDGwz)

I saw the movie Witness.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:47 AM (n13/j)

515 Anyone know of any alternatives out there?

Jim
-----
You might ask the SPLC, I understand that they have a lot of experience.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:47 AM (CDGwz)

516 I have a nice nest egg set. But part of me thinks I'm an idiot for doing that since at some point in the future Dems will get their wish and nationalize all retirement accounts. Cuz...fairness. Why should you white man, have $1M for retirement, when poor Juan Hernandez has nothing.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:32 AM (FiUMj)

They'll go for 401k first, then private pension. Private investment accounts will be last. Courts, should overrule it all.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 12:47 AM (Rz2Nc)

517
A liberal acquaintance once decried "right-wing violence." I told him I'd put a Bernie or Hillarhoid sticker on my car, if he'd put a Trump sticker on his.

End of conversation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Yeah, Juan Williams is always bitching about "white nationalist" violence.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:48 AM (aKsyK)

518 Miklos

I dunno what exactly Orban DID, but govt confiscation of all the E*Trade & Ameritrade accounts in the U.S. is just not a risk I care much about. Call me crazy.

And I don't like hedging or covered calls, either.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:48 AM (Cssks)

519 Energy companies tend to pay nice dividends

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 12:49 AM (25Dt7)

520 Grumpy Cat has crossed the Rainbow Bridge

https://twitter.com/RealGrumpyCat/
status/1129310647458467840?
ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:49 AM (MasTK)

521 Your neighbors? The ones who have new boats, jet skid, drive new cars and motorcycles, are way overextended on their house, and have 20k in credit card debt?

I once got gonged on by a collection agency, who said I was in serious arrears on my Discover card.

I almost had a heart attack. "Oh, I'm so sorry, I don't know what happened, how much do I owe?"

Then it hit me: I don't HAVE a fucking Discover card.

It turned out that they were looking for a guy with almost the same name (a classic name of English yeomanry) who was a LAWYER. Who was obviously dead broke.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:50 AM (if8r4)

522
No such thing as a secure dividend. GM paid a nice dividend....until it
didn't. As did GE. As did a whole bunch of companies over the decades.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:46 AM (FiUMj)

Altria for the last 50 years or so Many are surprised to find out is one of the two or three best performers with div reinvestment of all stocks over the last half century plus. But you are correct, they are always safe right up until they are not, and it could happen to any company, including altria.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:51 AM (n13/j)

523 U.S. banking laws and treaties have all but done away with "secret" accounts, be they Swiss or Cayman.

Bastards.

Anyone know of any alternatives out there?
---
give the money to me: the government knows i'm broke, so they will never look here.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:51 AM (MasTK)

524 392 space you got it right about Joe degenova he's putting it all together. Sorry this is formatted so badly I'm learning on the new smartphone. Wife listens to him everyday and shares the most important parts with me. I think he's going to do some kind of chart next week I need that to follow all these players.

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2019 12:52 AM (QTAAG)

525

Just came across the internet:

Ocasio-Cortez's Superhero Alter Ego Shut Down By DC Comics
Entertainment 7 Minutes Ago
NY Post -- Post Staff Report

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3ngvonh


Someone failed May Sweeps badly.

Heh.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 19, 2019 12:52 AM (FlRtG)

526 512 Lurker

OK... then YOU go to your church & I'll go to mine. See, e.g., Altria.

Jay

LTC insurance is the FIRST thing people should but... & most don't.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:53 AM (Cssks)

527 my Dad has stock in all sorts of different railroads here in North America... possibly even elsewhere.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:53 AM (MasTK)

528 Anyone know of any alternatives out there?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


mattresses ???

Posted by: Adriane Wot says Oy Alot These Days ... at May 19, 2019 12:53 AM (LPnfS)

529 And for all the talk on finances, I understand it's pretty much futile now to do the "offshore account" thing.

U.S. banking laws and treaties have all but done away with "secret" accounts, be they Swiss or Cayman.

Bastards.

Anyone know of any alternatives out there?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2019 12:42 AM (QzJWU)


Bitcoin (and the rest of the crypto-currencies) are the new-fangled versions of the numbered account.

Other than that the only way you can keep truly anonymous holdings is physically - gold (the best) and other metals, collectibles (though you lose anonymity when you transfer them), etc. Diamonds, also, but they are difficult to price and you lose too much buying and selling with dealers.

The government has gone so far against letting you have any financial anonymity that you have to report when you take something like $5,000 OF YOUR OWN MONEY out in cash. Banks will interrogate you about what you plan to do with your own money. It's crazy and so un-Constitutional it isn't even funny.

But this is a good part of why cryptos have gained so much popularity for so little reason.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2019 12:53 AM (vq6T3)

530 Anyone know of any alternatives out there?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

Bartertown
Go Amish
Keep money in a network of offshore trust accounts, none of which ever get big enough to draw attention.
Use gold as sailboat ballast

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (25Dt7)

531 A friend attended the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting a couple of weeks ago. Apparently it's one hell of show.

Imagine a meeting where the CEO's show up at the shareholders meeting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (xSo9G)

532 the irony of Altria is that the threat of complete company destruction is the big reason why div reinvestment made this company one of the all time best performers in SP history.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (n13/j)

533 Cool Stranglehold vid. My favorite Nugent song. Dude can play.

But my takeaway is that Uncle Ted dresses right.

*cue Homer Simpson voice*

Stupid sexy Ted!

*reaches for brain bleach*

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (uzjER)

534 Anyone know of any alternatives out there?



Jim


Repeal of at least certain provisions of FATCA (it's really called that).

Posted by: Miklos, not an accountant in your state /province at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (QzkSJ)

535 Forgot,

Forgot, run for office as a Democrat

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 12:55 AM (25Dt7)

536
I've heard stories of men killed in grain/silage cave-ins. They were desperately trying to claw their way out, but their sense of up and down got confused and they were digging themselves deeper.

And that reminds me of a job I'd love to put the precious snowflakes to, shoveling grain out of a bin -- those without the unloading auger inside.

We had one like that, and a buddy came home to visit from college one year, and it was time to shovel in that bin. He thought he was in good shape, working out and all that.

He got in that bin, and didn't last 10 minutes. He crawled out, covered in sweat and just collapsed. It blew his mind that I and the others, who were much older, could last so long.

The trouble was he didn't know how to shovel grain, and wore himself out expending way too much energy in too short a time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 12:55 AM (NMAzL)

537 Posted by: Arbalest at May 19, 2019 12:52 AM (FlRtG)
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link came up 404

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:55 AM (MasTK)

538 425 I'm stealing that Navy brat if you don't mind. I might add even though I'm not retired yet a recent event what make me add watch that last step.
I'm still recovering at home stuck on the couch after 3 weeks and who knows how many weeks longer. As you get older make sure you have sufficient Lighting on your outside steps please.

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2019 12:56 AM (QTAAG)

539
mattresses ???
Posted by: Adriane Wot says Oy Alot These Days
-------

We've kept it buried in the backyard ever since we heard that bastard Sherman was headed this way.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:56 AM (xSo9G)

540 https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/ocasio-
cortezs-superhero-alter-ego-shut-
down-by-dc-comics/

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 12:57 AM (MasTK)

541 Just read elsewhere on the web, during WW2, Mexico was asked by Germany if they wanted to ally with them against the US. Mexico declined when they figured out they'd still never win the American southwest back.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:21 PM (miE9U)

Kind of a shame that they didn't isn't it? Because, if they had, the U.S. southern border would be with Guatemala. Meaning a shorter wall would be needed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 12:57 AM (7njPr)

542 Re: long term care insurance

I'm pretty sure I'm investing in large part to pay for it at some point in the next decade. $5k/year or so is worth not losing everything I've worked for. Along those lines, we've always lived modestly, but I'm hoping we will feel like we got a significant raise once the kids are out of the house and we can start enjoying retirement.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:58 AM (lPsvG)

543 If an investor is REALLY worried about the security of an individual dividend, then... diversification is the answer.

Keep your savings out next to the bait can if you like. Find out the hard way whether inflation is a significant form of risk!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:58 AM (Cssks)

544 LTC insurance is the FIRST thing people should but... & most don't.
Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:53 AM (Cssks)


I'm glad you agree. It's peace of mind. It's just like earthquake insurance here in SoCal. Now we're not near any known major faults, but ... you find out about faults when they break. For $300/yr, I can lay off the risk of a catastrophic earthquake destroying the house. I figure $300/yr for a good night's sleep is well worth it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:58 AM (if8r4)

545 Kind of a shame that they didn't isn't it? Because, if they had, the U.S. southern border would be with Guatemala. Meaning a shorter wall would be needed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 12:57 AM (7njPr)

some concrete barriers, concertina wire, a field of mines, patrolling Warthogs and two batteries of Long Toms. All is well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:01 AM (uzjER)

546
Retry:

Ocasio-Cortez's Superhero Alter Ego Shut Down By DC Comics

Copy-and-paste works for me:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3ngvonh

Original Link (remove space in "e/ ny_post-"):

https://start.att.net/news/read/category/entertainment/article/ ny_post-ocasiocortezs_superhero_alter_ego_shut_down_by_dc-rnypost

Posted by: Arbalest at May 19, 2019 01:01 AM (FlRtG)

547 Does anyone here have any experience with the R-134a stop-leak crap they sell? My F-150 has a slow leak and I was wondering about that.

I noticed the thing was cycling and picked up a couple cans of R-134a. Then got home, and noticed I already had two full cans and a partial one left. It took a little over a can to get back right.

It will last all season, but leak down by next summer.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 18, 2019 11:28 PM (NMAzL)

The stop leak is "probably" a seal swelling agent. Might work, for a while. If you can get by with one can of R134a per season, just keep on refilling it until that no longer works. Stuff is pretty cheap now, compared to a tank of gas, for instance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 01:02 AM (7njPr)

548 Just read elsewhere on the web, during WW2, Mexico was asked by Germany if they wanted to ally with them against the US

Sorry, steve, no.

In WWII, Mexico declared war on the Axis powers, and even sent a fighter squadron (US trained and equipped) to the Big Fight. Didn't do much, but hey.

Posted by: Miklos, neither an Anna nor a Puma at May 19, 2019 01:02 AM (QzkSJ)

549 The "alternatives" discussion has veered off into financial crackpot territory.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:02 AM (Cssks)

550 LTC insurance is the FIRST thing people should but... & most don't.
Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:53 AM (Cssks)

What's LTC insurance? If you're young Whole life insurance is a good idea, create your own bank.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:02 AM (Rz2Nc)

551 If the interest I earn is sufficient to pay for the annual cost of LTC insurance, I'll count that as a win. And it shouldn't even be close.

Off to bed. Y'all have fun.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 01:03 AM (qO/re)

552 And I wonder if that is not a Colt 1903 in Granny's apron?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 01:03 AM (7njPr)

553 What's LTC insurance? If you're young Whole life insurance is a good idea, create your own bank.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42
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Long Term Care

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 01:04 AM (xSo9G)

554 LTC insurance?

I was enlisted. Do they have SPC4 insurance?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:04 AM (uzjER)

555 I'm pretty sure I'm investing in large part to pay for it at some point in the next decade. $5k/year or so is worth not losing everything I've worked for. Along those lines, we've always lived modestly, but I'm hoping we will feel like we got a significant raise once the kids are out of the house and we can start enjoying retirement.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:58 AM (lPsvG)


The sooner, the better, my brother, because like life insurance, it's cheap when you're young and healthy. We transferred a hefty sum over to the insurer, who takes the annual premiums from the proceeds of investing what we transferred. But that's it. End of story.

The insurer gets the use of our money until we need LTC, at which point we get use of our money back, in essence, and in the meantime we get peace of mind.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:04 AM (if8r4)

556
Yeah, Juan Williams is always bitching about "white nationalist" violence.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:48 AM (aKsyK)

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Well, Juan Williams is retarded.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:05 AM (4knXT)

557 Soooo, not Lieutenant Colonel insurance?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:05 AM (uzjER)

558 Thanks, Farmer, that is high praise coming from you.
Mend quickly.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 01:05 AM (w7KSn)

559 Madison is closer but they don't have a lot of shows there that I would want to see.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:29 PM (aA3+G)

Not even some Madison Blues?

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=nQ02Yt-Bla8

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 01:06 AM (7njPr)

560 If an investor is REALLY worried about the security of an individual dividend, then... diversification is the answer.



Keep your savings out next to the bait can if you like. Find out the hard way whether inflation is a significant form of risk!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 12:58 AM (Cssks)

I don't recommend specific stocks period. Anyone can research companies a lot less cyclical than GM that have paid dividends for many, many decades, some increased them regularly like Altria. And you are right about inflation. Sometimes people forget the risk of not getting a return.

And to be clear. I am not recommending Altria and I don't. It is an example of a long time dividend payer and stock winner, but that is history anyone can look up. Hell tootsie roll is another example. Again, this is just history, i have no clue what is coming ahead. The government for example is getting more involved in these companies outcomes, not less.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:06 AM (n13/j)

561 LTC insurance?

I was enlisted. Do they have SPC4 insurance?
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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No one less than Field-Grade officers should apply. It's issued by a major insurance company.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 01:06 AM (CDGwz)

562
552 And I wonder if that is not a Colt 1903 in Granny's apron?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 01:03 AM (7njPr)

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Any truly badass granny would be packing a 1911.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:07 AM (4knXT)

563 Long Term Care
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 01:04 AM (xSo9G)


Thanks, I'd do whole life first, but I don't know anything about LTC. I just know whole term life I've been my own bank my whole life.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:08 AM (Rz2Nc)

564 What's LTC insurance? If you're young Whole life insurance is a good idea, create your own bank.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42


Careful. I'd look VERY hard at whole life insurance. That whole area (no pun intended) is rife with scams.

I went with term life insurance (much cheaper, and even more importantly, transparent) and then long term care insurance (again, transparent). I won't put money into anything I don't at least think I understand fully.

In each case, I know exactly what I pay, and what I'm supposed to get. Whole life insurance is like dealing with a used car dealer. What's your trade-in worth, what is your down payment, what are your monthly payments ... these guys do this shit for a living, and it'll take you YEARS to figure out how they screwed you.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:09 AM (if8r4)

565 552 And I wonder if that is not a Colt 1903 in Granny's apron?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 01:03 AM (7njPr)

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Any truly badass granny would be packing a 1911.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:07 AM (4knXT)

Okay. You go first.

Go on.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:09 AM (uzjER)

566 The care and feeding of aging boomers is the one of the biggest growth areas in the US.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 01:10 AM (w7KSn)

567 The care and feeding of aging boomers is the one of the biggest growth areas in the US.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 01:10 AM (w7KSn)

nurses don't seem to have to look very hard for jobs.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:11 AM (n13/j)

568 Clover's back from the emergency vet & is sleeping in my lap. Vet thinks it might be a bunch of worms, killed by the de-worming med, that's causing her GI distress. Hopefully she'll get over it in a few days. Blue heelers are a tough breed so she should be fine.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 01:13 AM (LMcFk)

569 I believe most large employers offer optional LTC insurance now. I know the federal govt does.

I"m not a financial planner, but I know the first two things many financial planners ask, is:

1) Do you have a will & an Advanced Healthcare directive? (i.e., who decides if they turn off your respirator); &

2) Do you have LTC insurance? If not, RUN & get some.

Nursing home care costs will make your hair stand on end. Plus, you can use LTC insurance for in-home healthcare services too.

As Jay said, LTC insurance is pretty cheap if u r youngish.



Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:14 AM (Cssks)

570 Republican govs/legislatures need to implement laws where no county/city reports until everyone else is done. Everyone reports results at the same time.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 12:29 AM (FiUMj)


Making all counties report before any official tabulations are given out sounds like a great idea, and a kind of expansion of the 'no calling states before the last state closes' rule.

After Germany-Austria in the 1974 World Cup group play last game, where both teams knew before the game if it was a draw, they would both advance, similar changes were made. Both teams literally kicked the ball around, drawing the game and advancing, creating howls of protest against what was obviously a violation of the spirit of the game but also, more importantly, boring. FIFA made a rule where now all group stage last games in a tournament must be played at the same time to prevent such {WINK, WINK} collusion. Even leagues now have the last game of their seasons played at the same time to prevent any quid pro quo hanky panky.

If you know in advance how much vote fraud you'll need, you'll find it. If you don't know in advance, then things get dicey (for the vote fraudsters). Too much and it's not good as it's too obvious and not enough, of course, loses.

Posted by: RickZ at May 19, 2019 01:15 AM (Y8PSl)

571 The care and feeding of aging boomers is the one of the biggest growth areas in the US.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 01:10 AM (w7KSn)

I think they would be best utilized in jobs like sorting recyclables, gathering eggs at free range farms, weeding organic gardens, scraping bird remains off of solar panels, chasing fucking Canada geese off the fucking streets, and staying the fuck outta my way when I go to Walmart.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:15 AM (uzjER)

572 You should talk to a professional, in fact, talk to more than one after getting info on who might be good and fair. The only thing I heard about LTC back in the day was that most wont need it, but if you do, watch out. I guess that is why it is insurance, the company takes a risk and you do too.

I have a sneaking suspicion that more, not fewer will need some type of ltc in the future since we live longer with more maladies. That is all I can say on it and I am just a random guy blabbering here.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:16 AM (n13/j)

573

I remember an economics discussion with a couple liberals about the demographic time bomb. This is baby boom turned bust and how that's going to tax the system greatly.

No problem, think of all the jobs the young people will have taking care of the old people. They'll be in high demand, and thus make big bucks!

Whose going to pay them those big bucks? Well, the old people, with their retirement assets.

Oh, what are those assets?

Paper. The point is, wealth is stuff, and stuff that has to be made. Paper assets are nothing without production of that stuff.

If everybody is busy trying to take care of the surplus of old people, who is going to do that production?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 01:16 AM (NMAzL)

574 Careful. I'd look VERY hard at whole life insurance. That whole area (no pun intended) is rife with scams.

I went with term life insurance (much cheaper, and even more importantly, transparent) and then long term care insurance (again, transparent). I won't put money into anything I don't at least think I understand fully.

In each case, I know exactly what I pay, and what I'm supposed to get. Whole life insurance is like dealing with a used car dealer. What's your trade-in worth, what is your down payment, what are your monthly payments ... these guys do this shit for a living, and it'll take you YEARS to figure out how they screwed you.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:09 AM (if8r4)

I'm not certain what you're talking about. The insurance industry is heavily regulated. Maybe I just happened upon honest insurance sales people. The same people sell the insurance you're talking about. Whole life, instant cash value, term life, no cash value.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:17 AM (Rz2Nc)

575 The Government should pay all costs of putting our older people out into the cold, to freeze with dignity!

It is the way of our people!

Posted by: Chief Chieftaness Liz Warren-Obama at May 19, 2019 01:17 AM (QzkSJ)

576 The "alternatives" discussion has veered off into financial crackpot territory.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:02 AM (Cssks)


If you're referring to my comment and the notion of cryptos then you have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2019 01:17 AM (vq6T3)

577 OK, I'm out.
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the far left lane on the freeway, doing 45mph, with my left turn blinker on.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 01:18 AM (w7KSn)

578 Thanks, I'd do whole life first, but I don't know anything about LTC. I just know whole term life I've been my own bank my whole life.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:08 AM (Rz2Nc)


I'd avoid whole life like the plague. If you can't describe the deal yourself, in your own terms, RUN! Any ambiguity in the deal will end up being stuck up your ass, guaranteed.

We had a guy come into a company I worked for who was flogging off a whole life type of deal. Their brochure showed whacking great returns on investment. PITA scientist that I am, I analyzed the numbers, and realized that those returns DID NOT INCLUDE TAXES. Surprisingly enough, if you don't pay taxes, your money accumulates quickly.

I put this to the guy, who foofed it off by saying he didn't know what our tax rate would be, and so didn't include it.

Turned out that the first 36 months of payments went straight to this asshole as his commission, so if you could bailed at month 37, you had your dick in your hand, and had just pissed away $36,000.

It further turned out that he bought a house down the street from us, and bought the lot next to it, on which he constructed a fancy garage (with a polymer floor) in which he could wash his exotic sports cars in the dead of winter.

I used to imagine how pissed I'd have been if I'd invested in his shit, and hence had helped to pay for his garage.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:18 AM (if8r4)

579 564 Jay

You are en fuego tonite. Maybe we should get a room.

(Just kidding. Mungo straight.)

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:18 AM (Cssks)

580 Slogan Hilarity didn't come up with

Deplorables are morons!


If only she had known!

Posted by: Sock Monkey don't call me Gomer at May 19, 2019 01:19 AM (/9OW4)

581 the one I question is accidental death and dismemberment insurance. I think it is relatively cheap but in this day and age, how often does it pay out? Again, this is just a question, it obviously helps those who end up needing it.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:20 AM (n13/j)

582 ...The care and feeding of aging boomers is the one of the biggest growth areas in the US.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 01:10 AM (w7KSn)



They all get cut up for scrap, and the hull sections containing the reactor are buried in very sophisticated, multiple-materials & lining high tech pits at the Hanover nuclear grounds in Washington State.

What, no?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2019 01:22 AM (QzJWU)

583 The insurance industry is heavily regulated. Maybe I just happened upon honest insurance sales people. The same people sell the insurance you're talking about. Whole life, instant cash value, term life, no cash value.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:17 AM (Rz2Nc)


It is, and it isn't. Let's put it this way: a complicated deal is an invitation to screw you. So I hope you're right, but let me play devil's advocate.

"Instant cash value?" Frankly, my antennae quiver on hearing that. You give me $10, and I'll give you $5 in instant cash value. How MUCH cash value, compared to your investment, is the question.

Honest insurance sales people? Do you think people who come across as grossly dishonest make a living at this? The garage guy I described above came across as an honest Gomer Pyle type, largely because he was too stupid to realize he was screwing people.

Hell, I worry that I got screwed in the LTC deal, despite consulting an attorney and doing a lot of research on my own beforehand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:24 AM (if8r4)

584 What, no?



What?

Posted by: Boomer Esiason at May 19, 2019 01:25 AM (QzkSJ)

585 *shakes monitor*

It's Saturday night! fucking insurance talk?

Sigh.

*trudges off to get another beer*

There better be boobs when I get back!

I'll bring Geritol.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:25 AM (uzjER)

586 581 the one I question is accidental death and dismemberment insurance. I think it is relatively cheap but in this day and age, how often does it pay out? Again, this is just a question, it obviously helps those who end up needing it.
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:20 AM (n13/j)


I had disability insurance, to protect my income. Accidental death and dismemberment insurance, to me, sounds too narrowly drawn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:26 AM (if8r4)

587 I much prefer term life to whole life as well.

If someone can't explain something to me in one paragraph, which I can understand, then the hell with it.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:26 AM (Cssks)

588

lulz

I just saw the Arnold Schwarzenegger thing on fake news.
"Help me...I need a Lamborghini" the attacker was shouting?

Is that the new allahu Anbar?

Posted by: Soothie at May 19, 2019 01:27 AM (MT6Zy)

589 I had disability insurance, to protect my income. Accidental death and dismemberment insurance, to me, sounds too narrowly drawn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:26 AM (if8r4)


Nowadays, lefties buy dismemberment insurance in order to have their dick-removal surgery covered.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2019 01:28 AM (vq6T3)

590 Clover's back from the emergency vet & is sleeping in my lap. Vet thinks it might be a bunch of worms, killed by the de-worming med, that's causing her GI distress. Hopefully she'll get over it in a few days. Blue heelers are a tough breed so she should be fine.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 01:13 AM (LMcFk)

I'm glad Clover is home. Clover is my youngest dogs name, too.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:28 AM (Rz2Nc)

591
I shoulda had disability insurance. But when I would ever need that, I says.

And then I fell down the stairs.

Still fucked up, too.

Posted by: Soothie at May 19, 2019 01:29 AM (MT6Zy)

592 There better be boobs when I get back!
Posted by: Pug Mahon


(.) (.)

Pixy doesn't leave us a lot of options, here.

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2019 01:30 AM (P1f+c)

593 I am now listening to Albert King's immortal blues classic "Long term care and/or Whole Life Insurance Man Ripoff".

Posted by: Increasingly selective Miklos at May 19, 2019 01:31 AM (QzkSJ)

594 I just used the A/c pro super stop leak in the inlaws Dakota and its still holding after a week. I've also used it on a Ford Ranger but still need a can a year. Didn't work on my Dodge Caravan, has a hole in the evaporator.

Posted by: Lord Percy's Cracked Chamber Pot at May 19, 2019 01:32 AM (q/vxu)

595 I thought of a great name for my female Husky: Ma Barker.

Fits her personality! She's a hoodlum. But I got her from a shelter & somebody had already named her... & none too imaginatively, either.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:32 AM (Cssks)

596 LTC insurance?

I was enlisted. Do they have SPC4 insurance?
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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the LTC have insurance, because they fear the SP4 Mafia will destroy their career.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 01:33 AM (MasTK)

597 Accidental death and dismemberment insurance, to me, sounds too narrowly drawn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:26 AM (if8r4)


That type of insurance is most likely a holdover from when jobs were more dangerous and losing a limb was a real possibility. If I remember my History, one of the Pullman strikes/riots in the 1880's-90's was over a railroad worker getting a limb crushed and, being unable to work, was fired. I'm sure it's now the type of insurance where if you have a job that would need it it's probably pretty expensive (due to said job).

I will add, they should sell ennui insurance with every smart phone.

Posted by: RickZ at May 19, 2019 01:33 AM (Y8PSl)

598 Pixy doesn't leave us a lot of options, here.
Posted by: mikeski

Heh! Apparently there are at least three here who do not consider death, disability, and a decrepit old age the number one topic for a Saddy Nite

Posted by: Miklos, old, crippled up and lawd, let me sing my blues at May 19, 2019 01:34 AM (QzkSJ)

599 It is, and it isn't. Let's put it this way: a complicated deal is an invitation to screw you. So I hope you're right, but let me play devil's advocate.

"Instant cash value?" Frankly, my antennae quiver on hearing that. You give me $10, and I'll give you $5 in instant cash value. How MUCH cash value, compared to your investment, is the question.

Honest insurance sales people? Do you think people who come across as grossly dishonest make a living at this? The garage guy I described above came across as an honest Gomer Pyle type, largely because he was too stupid to realize he was screwing people.

Hell, I worry that I got screwed in the LTC deal, despite consulting an attorney and doing a lot of research on my own beforehand.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:24 AM (if8r4)

You're the money genius. All I ever did was never pay a car loan to anyone but myself and retired in my mid 40s. Not all true I had car loan when I was 18 to establish credit.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:35 AM (Rz2Nc)

600 never noticed before, but apparently the shuttlecraft in the star trek episode Galileo Seven landed on kashyyk, the wookie homeworld. you can tell because they keep getting attacked by big walking carpets.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 19, 2019 01:37 AM (6PB3S)

601 I had disability insurance, to protect my income.
Accidental death and dismemberment insurance, to me, sounds too narrowly
drawn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:26 AM (if8r4)

yeah it seems that way to me as well. I am sure the number are out there one the percentage that end up in such an event, then you have to consider line of work, lifestyle etc.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:37 AM (n13/j)

602 Kind of a shame that they didn't isn't it? Because,
if they had, the U.S. southern border would be with Guatemala. Meaning a
shorter wall would be needed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 12:57 AM (7njPr)


Possibly not, since the US was not focused on holding territtory, but it would be assured that the only function Pemex would ever have would be collecting royalties from foreign oil companies drilling and refining Mexican oil.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 01:38 AM (KTmSx)

603 If President Trump doesn't get into gear and get real election reforms enacted, he may overwhelmingly win the next election, but lose it anyway !
Dire warnings of a possibly bleak future ahead.

Posted by: ron n. at May 19, 2019 01:38 AM (om5HK)

604 A Buddy Guy and Barberettes concert would be awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Miklos at May 19, 2019 01:40 AM (QzkSJ)

605
OK, I'm out.
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the far left lane on the freeway, doing 45mph, with my left turn blinker on.
Posted by: navybrat

=====

I'll be right behind you, watching Frasier on my cell phone in my lap.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:41 AM (13CQC)

606 Posted by: ron n. at

Now see? raimondo could learn from this guy.

Posted by: Miklos, not tutoring trolls no mo at May 19, 2019 01:41 AM (QzkSJ)

607 if we'd kept Mexico after the war in the 1840's it might be almost civilized by now...

instead, we only kept the parts with good roads, electricity and safe drinking water.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 01:44 AM (MasTK)

608 Goodnight good people!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 19, 2019 01:45 AM (Rz2Nc)

609 A friend attended the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting a couple of weeks ago. Apparently it's one hell of show.



Imagine a meeting where the CEO's show up at the shareholders meeting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (xSo9G)

It is a three day Woodstock for capitalists tm. Buffet and his partner ( the old school kind) give all kinds of QA sessions, all the companies show up and give out free stuff, and Buffet plays in a company softball game. I don't think any other annual meeting is like it.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:46 AM (n13/j)

610 Now see? raimondo could learn from this guy.

Posted by: Miklos, not tutoring trolls no mo at May 19, 2019 01:41 AM (QzkSJ)
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that presupposes the ability to learn.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 01:46 AM (MasTK)

611 Posted by: Miklos, not tutoring trolls no mo at May 19, 2019 01:41 AM (QzkSJ)
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that presupposes the ability to learn.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 01:46 AM (MasTK)

I've read stuff that one can train cockroaches.

so there's that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:48 AM (uzjER)

612 Comment 600 and no one has discussed the pros and cons of reverse mortgages yet? Sheeesh.

At this rate we won't even get to whether pre-lubed catheters are actually worth the price premium you pay over the ones you lube yourself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:49 AM (4knXT)

613 "I wonder if anyone has ever paid a fee for playing John Cages 4'33" ?"

Ha!

Posted by: pawn at May 19, 2019 01:51 AM (ti2yD)

614
yeah it seems that way to me as well. I am sure the number are out there one the percentage that end up in such an event, then you have to consider line of work, lifestyle etc.
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:37 AM (n13/j)


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If your job is unclogging the intake on automated hay balers by hand, then dismemberment insurance may be a worthwhile investment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:52 AM (4knXT)

615 Bartended a music festival for 23 hours of the last 32 hours of my life.

Older 29 year olds are not meant to live like this.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 01:52 AM (DJSIE)

616 I am hanging out to hear what Wilford Brimley has to say about the diabeetus.

Got my notebook and pencil ready

*licks pencil lead, because that is something folks did or somesuch*

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:52 AM (uzjER)

617 I give up.

Off to watch Rifftrax.

'Night Horde.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 19, 2019 01:54 AM (uzjER)

618
A friend attended the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting a couple of weeks ago. Apparently it's one hell of show.



Imagine a meeting where the CEO's show up at the shareholders meeting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:54 AM (xSo9G)

and a lot of the shareholders show up too, that is truly rare. They come from all over the world. i missed the berkshire thing because i was always afraid Buffett would pass on. People have been worrying about this for decades lol. Anyway, whether the stock is good or not his comments and annual letter to shareholders are gold. You can probably get a lot of recent commentary at the meeting on Youtube. And they say is letters to shareholders over many many years are like a complete course in insurance and investing. I think you can even get the things as a stand alone book.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 01:54 AM (n13/j)

619 Wilford Brumley SNL diabetes ad parody:

Wilford: "Hell, my doctor said he doesn't even know if I HAVE diabetes. He said I just LOOK like I might."

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:56 AM (Cssks)

620 Back in '89, I would have settled for a pre-lubed mortgage.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 01:56 AM (RuIsu)

621 Death & dismemberment insurance is so cheap that many credit cards include it for injuries that are suffered on transportation that was paid for using the card.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:57 AM (4knXT)

622 I give up.

Off to watch Rifftrax.

Well.

Zydeco on the intertubes, semi-live from Lafayette.

Chac'un a son gout.



Posted by: Miklos, not tutoring trolls no mo at May 19, 2019 01:57 AM (QzkSJ)

623 615 Bitter

Lotta good tips at last night's Blues game! Happy drunks tip well!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:58 AM (Cssks)

624 I aint drinkin' no cocktail with a tampon thing in it. I mean,...JAYSUS!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 02:00 AM (Cssks)

625 Lotta good tips at last night's Blues game! Happy drunks tip well!

.....

Yeah, I've made $900 during that span, but f*ck.

My dogs are barking and my back is stiff.

Epsom salts here I come.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 02:01 AM (DJSIE)

626 Death & dismemberment insurance is so cheap that many credit cards include it for injuries that are suffered on transportation that was paid for using the card.
Posted by: Cicero

Sweetheart says I get an upgrade if I fly on a 737MAX.

So nice, she never paid attention to things like that before.

Posted by: Miklos, in love again at May 19, 2019 02:01 AM (QzkSJ)

627 Bitter

WOW!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 02:02 AM (Cssks)

628 Comment 600 and no one has discussed the pros and cons of reverse mortgages yet? Sheeesh.



At this rate we won't even get to whether pre-lubed catheters are
actually worth the price premium you pay over the ones you lube
yourself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 01:49 AM (4knXT)

now you know how I feel when the car talk comes. Now I can say I really like Ensure over the store brands.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:02 AM (n13/j)

629 Ok, I see I have come at a bad time...

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:03 AM (ycWCI)

630 and with vodka it is like White Russian for 29 year olds.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:03 AM (n13/j)

631 is it really that bad? I was enjoying this. Just tapping away, God knows what I said lol. I am done with insurance if all else are. I thought people liked stock talk.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:04 AM (n13/j)

632 630 and with vodka it is like White Russian for 29 year olds.
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:03 AM (n13/j)

Hmmm, Ensure with alcohol. I have had pedialyte with vodka.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:07 AM (ycWCI)

633 I was ptrppr Mediterranean ribs, ,low garlic but I went to the curb to get the oregano and a lizard darted under my foot. *crunch* Super nacuous.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2019 02:08 AM (cXV7n)

634 Just seeing how things are going, coming along nicely.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 02:08 AM (BbGew)

635 I thought people liked stock talk.
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:04 AM (n13/j)

Well, it beats the "modified" talk on the tranny channel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 02:08 AM (7njPr)

636 Hmmm, Ensure with alcohol. I have had pedialyte with vodka.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


I hear they're hiring bartenders at The Villages, and my buddy Carl Spackler says the benefits are Dependable.

Posted by: Miklos, starting his eighth career at May 19, 2019 02:10 AM (QzkSJ)

637 Spoke with my BIL this afternoon on the phone, told him that by answering the phone he'd already taken care of my most pressing question, which was "Is BIL out of the hospital and feeling better"? (And he's pretty much OK, just old and needing periodic maintenance for one thing or the other, thank you for asking.)

Anyhow, we chatted and I told him that Mrs. Tootooie and I were off to see Swan Lake this evening. That she is a big ballet fan, and that I was absolutely gobsmacked when she told me she'd never before seen it live.

If I listed ten million things I might have expected him to reply, his actual words wouldn't have made the list: He said, "I played Odette in Swan Lake in college! It's my greatest claim to fame!" lol

Posted by: The Eponymous Hugh Tootooie at May 19, 2019 02:10 AM (hu22E)

638 >> I thought people liked stock talk.

Stock? You mean like stock car racing? There used to be a dirt track close by -- very redneck, high tone redneck shore 'nuff stuff. Back when I was a kid they used to race every Saturday night.

They'd start up around dusk and you'd hear the engines revving and racing for hours in the distance.

One Saturday night, they all started up, and the roar lasted only about a minute, then got quiet and never started up again.

Turned out they had massive pile-up on the first lap, wrecking ever damn car on the track.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:11 AM (NMAzL)

639 I thought people liked stock talk.
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:04 AM (n13/j)

Well, it beats the "modified" talk on the tranny channel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Stock cars with modified transmissions.

Everybody happy?

Posted by: NASCAR Miklos at May 19, 2019 02:12 AM (QzkSJ)

640
I just looked up dirt tracks around here. I need to take Miley to one of those so she can see the native rednecks in all their drunken glory.

Turns out there is one at, the gods are smiling, Sugartit. The Sugartit Speedway.

That's where I'll take her.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:14 AM (NMAzL)

641
Turns out there is one at, the gods are smiling, Sugartit. The Sugartit Speedway.

That's where I'll take her.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:14 AM (NMAzL)

And they say God has no sense of humor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:15 AM (ycWCI)

642 Actually kind of sounds like somewhere to hold a MOME.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:16 AM (ycWCI)

643 Hmmm, Ensure with alcohol. I have had pedialyte with vodka.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:07 AM (ycWCI)

the illness and cure all at once, brilliant. I have done the same with Gatorade. Hell I once filled a Gatorade bottle with Cisco, it looks real. You can use it for covert ops but I don't suggest it if you are near 29.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:18 AM (n13/j)

644 The Sugartit Speedway.

That's where I'll take her.



Be sure to include the Giant Ass Cheeks in the Sky on your tour.

(For furriners, it's supposed to be a peach, and in a way it is)

Posted by: Miklos, who seen it at May 19, 2019 02:18 AM (QzkSJ)

645 Turns out there is one at, the gods are smiling, Sugartit. The Sugartit Speedway.

That's where I'll take her.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:14 AM (NMAzL)

Dirt track racing, the sprint cars, is the real deal. I know a guy in Montana who used to race them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 02:19 AM (7njPr)

646

You ain't seen nothing until you've seen a bunch of shirtless rednecks drunk off their asses hooping and yee-hawing at a dirt track race.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:19 AM (NMAzL)

647
Well, peachy posterior is one of the Daily Mail's favorite phrases.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:21 AM (NMAzL)

648 If someone can't explain something to me in one paragraph, which I can understand, then the hell with it.
Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 01:26 AM (Cssks)


This.

My corollary: if I can't explain it to a third party in one paragraph, the hell with it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:23 AM (if8r4)

649 You ain't seen nothing until you've seen a bunch of
shirtless rednecks drunk off their asses hooping and yee-hawing at a
dirt track race.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:19 AM (NMAzL)

I have only seen the Monaco Grand Prix. They looked like ants with the tickets I got, I think I might have been in France. But those things are loud as hell when you get up close, which I did.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:23 AM (n13/j)

650
They have several classes of dirt track cars and events. I remember, as a teenager watching some locals build and work on one.

It was basically nothing but a steel tube frame welded together with a bucket seat bolted on a steel plate for a floorboard. Then they put the biggest damn engine that was legal in front, a transmission, a rear axle, then slapped some sheet metal for a body around it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (NMAzL)

651 So now we are on to hearing aids?

Let the good times roll!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (ycWCI)

652 You ain't seen nothing until you've seen a bunch of shirtless rednecks drunk off their asses hooping and yee-hawing at a dirt track race.
Posted by: publius,


Well, Howard dean didn't really get the NASCAR vote, but learned a bit of the yelling part.

Posted by: Miklos, unforgetful at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (QzkSJ)

653 It was basically nothing but a steel tube frame welded together with a bucket seat bolted on a steel plate for a floorboard. Then they put the biggest damn engine that was legal in front, a transmission, a rear axle, then slapped some sheet metal for a body around it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (NMAzL)

Which is pretty much early 20th century racing. No roll cage though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:25 AM (ycWCI)

654 So now we are on to hearing aids?

Let the good times roll!
Posted by: Aetius451AD a

TYPE LOUDER

Posted by: Miklos, 'cause mandatory at May 19, 2019 02:25 AM (QzkSJ)

655 My corollary: if I can't explain it to a third party in one paragraph, the hell with it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:23 AM (if8r4)

The hell with all of it. I remember Rush saying once he doesn't even have health insurance. That was a long time ago and it helps to have millions. But I don't think that was very good advice really.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:25 AM (n13/j)

656 651 So now we are on to hearing aids?

Let the good times roll!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (ycWCI)


Huh? Speak up, sonny!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:26 AM (if8r4)

657 Cisco... that brings back, uh, not exactly memories.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 02:26 AM (RuIsu)

658 Well, Howard dean didn't really get the NASCAR vote, but learned a bit of the yelling part.

Posted by: Miklos, unforgetful at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (QzkSJ)

Yeeaargh!

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:26 AM (n13/j)

659 Cisco... that brings back, uh, not exactly memories.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 02:26 AM (RuIsu)

the blue has a fabulous bouquet.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:28 AM (n13/j)

660 It was basically nothing but a steel tube frame welded together with a bucket seat bolted on a steel plate for a floorboard. Then they put the biggest damn engine that was legal in front, a transmission, a rear axle, then slapped some sheet metal for a body around it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:24 AM (NMAzL)

IIRC, the dirt track cars don't have a transmission as such, just an in-and-out box.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 02:29 AM (7njPr)

661 IIRC, the dirt track cars don't have a transmission as such, just an in-and-out box.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 02:29 AM (7njPr)

Just like Sandra Fluke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:30 AM (ycWCI)

662 blue or blew?

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 02:30 AM (RuIsu)

663 where we be?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 02:32 AM (MasTK)

664 the blue has a fabulous bouquet.
Posted by: Quint

bleu, monsieur

Posted by: Miklos from Csco, a roud member of the Valu-Rite Family at May 19, 2019 02:33 AM (QzkSJ)

665 there

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 02:33 AM (MasTK)

666 here

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 02:33 AM (MasTK)

667 Barbados Rum and Mello Yello Zero verdict:

Not bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:34 AM (ycWCI)

668 I sense Dr Seuss

Posted by: Miklos , neither her nor there at May 19, 2019 02:35 AM (QzkSJ)

669
Another big redneck event that has to been seen to be appreciated is the tractor pull. It's big, loud engines blowing fire out the headers, but on "tractors" which see you can pull the "sled" the most distance.

The sled is this thingamabob that's mounted on tandem axle trailer.It has a huge weight that slides foward as the thing is pulled, making it progressively harder to pull.

They have different power classes. This is souped up tractors. Hell, we went to one years ago, and some fool had rigged a gas turbine jet engine on a "tractor". That was a big crowd pleaser.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:35 AM (NMAzL)

670 and, to tie the late thread together, i wonder if you can get insurance for when you hit the post of evil?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 02:35 AM (MasTK)

671 the blue has a fabulous bouquet.

Posted by: Quint



bleu, monsieur

Posted by: Miklos from Csco, a roud member of the Valu-Rite Family at May 19, 2019 02:33 AM (QzkSJ)

C'est vrai

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:36 AM (n13/j)

672
I'm remembering, at that tractor pull, a fist fight broke out between some drunks over Fords vs Chevys.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:37 AM (NMAzL)

673 pronounced seeescoe

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:37 AM (n13/j)

674 Barbados Rum and Mello Yello Zero verdict:

Not bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

The EBT waz up-on-upped last week. Where yo style? And gimme some.

Posted by: Miklos, careful and diligent user of the SNAP program at May 19, 2019 02:37 AM (QzkSJ)

675 They have different power classes. This is souped up tractors. Hell, we went to one years ago, and some fool had rigged a gas turbine jet engine on a "tractor". That was a big crowd pleaser.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:35 AM (NMAzL)

They do tractor pulling here in Alberta, too. And I have heard of Combine demolition derbies, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 02:37 AM (7njPr)

676 I'm remembering, at that tractor pull, a fist fight broke out between some drunks over Fords vs Chevys.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:37 AM (NMAzL)

sounds like good old fashioned entertainment. Let me guess, they would rather push one than drive the other.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:38 AM (n13/j)

677 Does anyone here have any experience with the R-134a stop-leak crap they sell? My F-150 has a slow leak and I was wondering about that.
-----

Something sticks in my mind, if you DO ever take it in to a shop for a proper repair, they will not be happy with you, something to do with the fact that all refrigerants must be recycled/captured. They have a very expensive machine used for AC work, and the "stop leak" in your system will bugger up their $$$ machine. That's what I've heard.

Heard stories about "fix a flat" in tires, at tire shops. Be sure to tell them beforehand. They do not like that, it gets slime all over their equipment.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 19, 2019 02:38 AM (mzCLD)

678 pronounced seeescoe
Posted by: Quint

I love spaghetti westerns.

Posted by: Miklos, squinting into an imagined sun at May 19, 2019 02:40 AM (QzkSJ)

679 Barbados Rum and Mello Yello Zero verdict:



Not bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD

I had the Barbados with Diet Coke. Then somewhere along the way the low carb thing just slipped away for the day.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:40 AM (n13/j)

680 pronounced seeescoe

Posted by: Quint



I love spaghetti westerns.

Posted by: Miklos, squinting into an imagined sun at May 19, 2019 02:40 AM (QzkSJ)

if the movie is not directed by Italians and shot in Spain, it already has two strikes against it.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:43 AM (n13/j)

681 Then somewhere along the way the low carb thing just slipped away for the day.



Yep. Had that once about lap 180 at Darlington one time.

Posted by: Miklos, from Cale Yarborough's pit crew at May 19, 2019 02:44 AM (QzkSJ)

682
If I ever repair that A/C on that truck, I'll be the one doing it, not a shop. I had to put a new compressor on my '92 F-150. It was R-12. At the time, I had some buddies who could still get R-12. Still do, but it might as well be gold for the price.

Anyway, I remember researching and I went with a blend refrigerant. 134a systems need a bigger condenser, and this blend would do better with the smaller R-12 condenser.

R-12 was chosen for a reason, and it was ideal for automotive applications.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:44 AM (NMAzL)

683
I remember. When I put the system back together, I used a hand vacuum pump to draw it down. That took some work.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:45 AM (NMAzL)

684 you can make anything about cars lol. Cale was one of the best Yarborough's you are ever going to meet though.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:46 AM (n13/j)

685 Adios all, I enjoyed the chat. Have a great rest of the Weekend!

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2019 02:47 AM (n13/j)

686
It's funny. Formula-1, Grand Prix is considered very high end, sophisticated, urbane. That's the racing for the millionaires.

But stock cars are dirt tracks are the low end, redneck stuff.

Same damn thing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 02:48 AM (NMAzL)

687 It was like 92 here in NE GA.

I love living in the South.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (htgmn)

And it was only 77 here in the Arizona desert today. Been a rather cool year so far.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at May 19, 2019 02:51 AM (l7Kbv)

688 Well, I am done for the night. Later, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 02:51 AM (7njPr)

689 Night Quint and AOP.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:52 AM (ycWCI)

690 But stock cars are dirt tracks are the low end, redneck stuff.

Same damn thing.
Posted by: publius

The city rallys in Europe are a lot closer to dirt track racing.

Posted by: Junior Johnson Miklos, in the woods of Caroline at May 19, 2019 02:52 AM (QzkSJ)

691 Well, I am done for the night. Later, Horde.



Threadwise, that is a very close paraphrase of John Maynard Keynes.

Posted by: Miklos, neo-non-Keynesian at May 19, 2019 02:53 AM (QzkSJ)

692 "In the long run, all threads are dead"

Posted by: John Miklonard Keynes at May 19, 2019 02:58 AM (QzkSJ)

693 This thread should have bought some Long Term Care insurance. Or maybe a Whole Life of Thread Policy.

But the threads these days, they don't listen.

Posted by: Miklos, calling Big Lou at May 19, 2019 03:01 AM (QzkSJ)

694 Dirt Track Date

Southern Culture on the Skids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0mNZe472KM

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:01 AM (MasTK)

695 "Redneck" is a derogatory term, much like "nigg*r".

The biggest difference is you don't have to put an asterisk in "redneck" when you type it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 03:02 AM (oFlMR)

696
I self-identify as redneck.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 03:03 AM (NMAzL)

697 and, BTW, it's farging raining here Lost Angels.

it's half way to June and we're still getting rain?

WTF! Glow bulb warming my ass.

and, apparently, it's raining like a mongolian rat bastard up north, to the point some folks are starting to sweat the Oroville dam again.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:05 AM (MasTK)

698 I do too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 03:05 AM (oFlMR)

699
I remembering something about the tractor pulls. They used dry ice to cool the transmissions somehow.

In many cases, they'd be putting some souped-up engine on a near stock drive train. It would be modified somewhat depending.

But heat was the bane and they needed some serious cooling to keep from destroying them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 03:07 AM (NMAzL)

700 my nick is short for redneck, with the c1c4 referring to the first 4 cervical vertebrae.

i stopped at c4 for the plastic explosive reference, as i came up with it back when i was still wearing a uniform on occasion.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:07 AM (MasTK)

701 *heh*
Posted by: G-babies planning on bouncing on gram's bed at 0630 at May 19, 2019 12:18 AM (xSo9G)

---

I wish.

Mom and Dad will have picked them up well before then.

*glances at clock*

Maybe.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:07 AM (RU4sa)

702 And it's Gammy, not Grams.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:08 AM (RU4sa)

703 and, apparently, it's raining like a mongolian rat bastard up north, to the point some folks are starting to sweat the Oroville dam again.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:05 AM (MasTK)

---

They have good reason to.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:09 AM (RU4sa)

704 Gammy. Not bad.

Mine were Mammaw and Grandma.

And Pappaw and Grandpa.

It was a simple system.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:09 AM (ycWCI)

705 Mine were Gammy and Gramps.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:10 AM (RU4sa)

706 Southern Culture on the Skids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0mNZe472KM
Posted by: redc1c4

Thank you for reminding me! Now I have to look for the CD I have somewhere.

Posted by: Miklos, I think it's even signed at May 19, 2019 03:14 AM (QzkSJ)

707 i stopped at c4 for the plastic explosive reference



I always thought it was about the C4, and it still might be.

Therefore unfailingly polite to anyone with c4 int their nic.

Posted by: Miklos, gotta be careful at May 19, 2019 03:16 AM (QzkSJ)

708 https://www.buzznick.com/stomach-turning-pictures/

I got to #3 then immediately closed the tab.

Not so much stomach-churning as horrifying.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:16 AM (RU4sa)

709 I always thought it was about the C4, and it still might be.

Therefore unfailingly polite to anyone with c4 int their nic.
Posted by: Miklos, gotta be careful at May 19, 2019 03:16 AM (QzkSJ)

Other things to watch out for in nics:

'Long Range'

'Silent'

'Vengeful'

'Mirror-Universe'

'*insert four letter first name here*'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:19 AM (ycWCI)

710 By the way, Southern Culture on the Skids were generally known as SCOTS, also good for the generally Celtic background of red mud rednecks.

Posted by: Miklos McMolnar, of the Scots-Irish-Magyar McMolnars at May 19, 2019 03:19 AM (QzkSJ)

711 Just plain ole grandma and grandpa here.

Glad to see your are spending time with grandbabies, SMH. How's ex-ex?

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 03:21 AM (kRPTw)

712 Thinking about it, dangerous I know, if Hillary had campaigned with Bill on a literal leash, at every photo op there he is, next to or behind her with a leash and a collar on, with Hillary holding the leash, the election might have been different. A campaign slogan could have been 'She's In Charge!' or something along those lines. I honestly think if that visual had been a part of her campaign, she might just have won.
Posted by: RickZ at May 19, 2019 12:13 AM (Y8PSl)

---

Bill would have had to consent to that, which means it never would have happened. He was in a weird place in '16 -- forced to pretend to support her candidacy, the way he was forced to pretend she didn't bounce heavy ashtrays off his head and pretend that they had a normal marriage etc., but clearly he was not really on board with the idea of President HRC. His appearances at campaign rallies and his half-hearted endorsements were coerced, and the equivalent of a leash.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 19, 2019 03:21 AM (t5m5e)

713 Other things to watch out for in nics:


"Valentinian"

Posted by: Miklos, just sayin' at May 19, 2019 03:21 AM (QzkSJ)

714 I got to #3 then immediately closed the tab.

Not so much stomach-churning as horrifying.
Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:16 AM (RU4sa)

The internet is often a study in both the fascinating as well as the horrifying.

You know something I cannot get enough of? Urban Exploration photos.

There was one I saw several years ago from an abandoned office building in Detroit. This was of an office where there was a hole in the roof where light was pouring in, but the remains of a desk blotter were still on the desk and a corroding fan set beside moss growing on a table top. I thought 'Some guy worked there many years ago. He may have worked there his entire life and worked to get that office, put a couple kids through college. Probably would hate to see his office in this shape.'

I am strange, but I always think that way when I see anything historical. Rome was a lot of fun. The Colosseum. The Forum.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:22 AM (ycWCI)

715 713 Other things to watch out for in nics:


"Valentinian"
Posted by: Miklos, just sayin' at May 19, 2019 03:21 AM (QzkSJ)

Very good ref.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:24 AM (ycWCI)

716 The Colosseum. The Forum.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I liked three things about the Forum.

1-I could run my fingers over the actual inscriptions

2-after a bit, the Latin came back and I could read and translate it

3-the chicks were impressed

Posted by: Miklosius, of the loyal IX Legio at May 19, 2019 03:29 AM (QzkSJ)

717 1-I could run my fingers over the actual inscriptions

2-after a bit, the Latin came back and I could read and translate it

3-the chicks were impressed
Posted by: Miklosius, of the loyal IX Legio at May 19, 2019 03:29 AM (QzkSJ)

The ladies in Rome were almost universally gorgeous in my experience. Especially a bespectacled lady who worked in the gift shop at the Castel Sant'Angelo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:32 AM (ycWCI)

718 The American ladyfriends I met in Rome were a bit disappointed. They expected the Italians to dress different, somehow more stylish. But they said no, about the same. They bough lotsa shoes anyway.

However, for a Gina Lollobrigida or Luciana Paulucci, I would consider the occasional hot-blooded dumping of a pot of pasta over my head a price worth paying.

Either could even hang my underwear out on the line for all the neighbors to see.

Posted by: Miklos il paisan at May 19, 2019 03:38 AM (QzkSJ)

719 Especially a bespectacled lady who worked in the gift shop at the Castel Sant'Angelo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:32 AM (ycWCI)
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that was a tranny.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:40 AM (MasTK)

720 Germans are weird:

https://tinyurl.com/y3xz53sg

Just have sex and have many blond babies, dude.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:41 AM (ycWCI)

721 the German link was far scarier than the one with 23 pics...

IMHO, of course.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:44 AM (MasTK)

722 and, with that, i'm off...

hasta, y'all!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 03:45 AM (MasTK)

723 Night red.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 03:45 AM (ycWCI)

724 "The next commenter was a man of very different
mould. It would be well if in all councils in this
blog there were men with thoughts so just and
expressions so happy. He is a type of the thinking
Moron. 'What came before this ONT, and what comes
after, all is mystery. The life of each thread, that
is all that each Valued Valu-Rite Customer knows.' An apt simile occurred
to him, beautiful in its simplicity."

Posted by: The Venerable MiklosBede, c. 722 at May 19, 2019 03:47 AM (QzkSJ)

725 Have gpod night all

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:04 AM (BbGew)

726 Night Skip.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 04:13 AM (ycWCI)

727 I might be up for good now, hope not

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:17 AM (BbGew)

728 I'm up too. took a nap yesterday after a grief spell, can't sleep. Scrabbled eggs are better with cheddar. Swiss just isn't the same.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 04:26 AM (kRPTw)

729 Mornin', all.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:43 AM (vu/qe)

730 Infidel, do those eggs sit in your stomach for a spell?

Posted by: clutch at May 19, 2019 04:44 AM (kiSdp)

731 Not really.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 04:49 AM (kRPTw)

732 Swiss cheese is okay with scrambled eggs if you add onions, peppers and cut up sausage links. (imho)

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:55 AM (vu/qe)

733 2nd attempt hiya

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 04:59 AM (icuj/)

734
What have I done? I expected to look down at the lower-right corner of my p.c. and see maybe like 11:07. It's 2:02. Now I'm doomed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 05:02 AM (13CQC)

735
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe) at May 19, 2019 05:02 AM (KCxzN)

736 7 hrs old and still smells fresh.
Awesome content. Hopefully comments just as deplorable.

Posted by: Pickled dirttracker at May 19, 2019 05:03 AM (Tc6m0)

737 223
Picture Caption: Labor Party supporters watching news of the results at an election-night event in Melbourne.

Not quite as schadenfreude-y as the wailing nincompoops crying over Hilary, but still funny.
http://tinyurl.com/yxkap7lm

Warning: that link goes to the NYT story.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (ufFY


In the photo above that one, at least the Liberal Party (the conservatives) have the colors right in their posters.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 05:25 AM (sdi6R)

738 42 and raining here. Since about 4 p.m.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:25 AM (vu/qe)

739
it's just 20 days until the MiMoMe!!!

link in nick for details

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe details) at May 19, 2019 05:26 AM (KCxzN)

740 I woke up at 4:15 to a raging downpour. I got up and went around closing the windows. By the time I got back to bed it had practically stopped. And I couldn't get back to sleep. Bloody weather.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 05:28 AM (sdi6R)

741 42 and raining here. Since about 4 p.m.
Posted by: My life is insanity

How ya feeling ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 05:28 AM (icuj/)

742 >>How ya feeling ?
Posted by: JT


Like i was hit by a truck.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:31 AM (vu/qe)

743 How ya feeling ?
Posted by: JT


Like i was hit by a truck.
Posted by: My life is insanity

That was an honest answer !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 05:35 AM (icuj/)

744 Truth hurts? Haha

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:40 AM (vu/qe)

745 Truth hurts? Haha

Look at the bright side.....at least your gutters haven't fallen down.


Yet !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 05:46 AM (icuj/)

746 I woke up at 4:15 to a raging downpour. I got up and went around closing the windows. By the time I got back to bed it had practically stopped. And I couldn't get back to sleep. Bloody weather.
Posted by: rickl

Dint rain here.

I looked outside after I read your post and NOPE !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 05:49 AM (icuj/)

747 Yet !

At least there is that!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:50 AM (vu/qe)

748 From the NYT link in the comment I quoted in #737, I found this article about Venezuela:

https://tinyurl.com/y6f54uve

I did a word search for "socialism". "Phrase not found".

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 05:52 AM (sdi6R)

749 I wasn't, am now.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:52 AM (BbGew)

750 I was up throughout the night, very strange, 12, 2, 4

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:54 AM (BbGew)

751 >>I did a word search for "socialism". "Phrase not found".
Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 05:52 AM (sdi6R)


No, they are calling it "mis-guided policies"

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:56 AM (vu/qe)

752 Yesterday it rained a lot and the wind blew really hard. It was scary. So this must mean we are in a ferking crisis. Let's destroy America and civilization.
-every leftist ever
But seriously, thank GOD it wasn't so bad we couldn't handle it yesterday. Let's enjoy this Sunday for this is the day the Lord hath made.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2019 05:56 AM (qBNEP)

753 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:02 AM (isI7q)

754 I just snapped awake after less than four hours of sleep. This is not going to be a good day.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 06:02 AM (NWiLs)

755 Pistol Packing Mammaries and a yeasty inflection too...she's no loafer.

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 07:50 AM (5IHGB)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-18-2019 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Pacing

91. Pacing 01.jpg


Here's a concept in storytelling that is super important to some people, but not to me. And because it's not that important to me, I kind of don't get it.

Well, I get what it is and have a rough idea of how to measure it, but I don't get why it's important. It's really a taste thing, but when people throw it up in a critique ("The movie was poorly paced" or "inconsistently paced"), they seem to include it as some sort of objective measure of quality. And I'd disagree vehemently. Its existence is objective, but its importance is (almost) purely subjective.


What is It?

Think back to a couple of years ago when I first started writing these posts and I outlined my model of storytelling, which was based on four major elements of narrative: character, plot, style, and theme. All stories contain all four elements but in different amounts, and all members of the audience have their own priorities. Personally, the single element that's most important to me is theme, but, I've learned, most people seem to prioritize plot.

I think if you were to make a Venn diagram of people who consider pacing and plot to be important, you'd get a circle. Plot is about the actions of a story, and those who like this element of narrative over the others want to see the plot move. They don't want to spend time with a single plot point as other elements get addressed, they'd rather see the next plot point.

So, what is pacing, then? It's the movement of the story from one point to another. Is that plot points? Not necessarily, but usually.


Slow Movies

I like to use the movie Andrei Rublev as my near satirical example of a slowly paced movie. If I were to ever formalize my 11-20 of all time movies, it would appear on it. It's one of seven movies by the Soviet filmmaker Andrei Tarkovsky (the co-screenwriter was another Andrei, Andrei Konchalovsky), and it's about the Russian icon painter. We never see him paint a thing. He wanders around medieval Russia, observing the plight of the common man and life in the era. The last forty minutes or so are about the casting of a church bell. And then we get color images of Rublev's work.

It's really slow.

And I think it's one of the greatest films ever made.
In addition, it's a movie I almost never recommend. In fact, I don't think I've ever recommended it because I know people are hard wired to not like these kinds of films. Hollywood has never made movies like it for mass consumption, and most people in America grow up on Hollywood entertainments. The basic filmic vocabulary of something like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and even Casablanca is vastly different from films made by Malick, Melville, or Tarkovsky. They're all part of the same medium but use vastly different methods to organize the sights and sounds to tell their stories.


Preferences

91. Pacing 02.jpg


As I said earlier, the importance of pacing is largely subjective. However, I am happy to admit that it is important in certain circumstances.

There are types of stories that helped by faster paces. Action movies, in particular, feel like a genre that is generally aided by a faster pace. They don't need to be break neck from beginning to end, but stopping the film for half an hour to deal with character might break up the feel of the film enough to distract from the action at hand. Taking a 45-minute scenic tour of the countryside might work in a drama, but in the middle of a thriller it could cause unnecessary boredom on the part of the audience.

I wouldn't want to write off a film that works like that completely (Independence Day has no action for a solid 30 minutes between its second and third acts), but I think it's safe to say that audiences don't want to spend a long time watching people talk about their feelings in the middle of their exciting action spectaculars. It's a reasonable request, I think.


Fast Movies

The one movie that jumps to mind first when talking about fast pacing is the German film Run Lola Run. It's breakneck.

Part of it is editing. One might call it over-edited. Never using 1 shot when 3 will do, which implies a sense of movement that the single shot wouldn't accomplish on its own.

The other part is the fact that it tells the same story three times, in three different ways, in a short 82 minutes. Lola's boyfriend has lost 100.000 marks for his gangster boss and needs to retrieve it or replace it in 20 minutes. He calls Lola who screams and then, well, runs. She follows through on three different possible paths. The first leads to an unsuccessful grocery store robbery, the second leads to a bank robbery, and the third leads to a pair of lucky runs at roulette that gets the 100.000 marks.

I'm not the biggest fan, but it's definitely a fun movie that clips along nicely. There are implications of themes around determinism, but the movie never has the time to explore them in any meaningful way.

But, the important thing, in regards to this post, is that it's fast. It speeds along to tell its small story in three interesting ways and wraps it up. Not a bad way to spend 82 minutes.


Marketing Lies

Advertisements lie to you. They do it all the time. Marketers will say anything to get you to buy a product, and a movie ticket is no different.

Remember the movie Drive? Here's the trailer:

That looks like a mostly typical action movie, doesn't it? Well, the movie isn't like that, at all. Despite using only images from the movie itself, the marketer who made that trailer created something that looks more like a Fast and Furious movie than a moody, European styled, introspective movie (where Christina Hendrick's head gets all splodded up). The disparity was so bad that a Michigan woman filed a lawsuit against the distributor (it got tossed in 2012). And you thought you were mad about a trailer that lied to you, huh?

This comes down to the idea of expectations. A trailer creates a set of expectations around the movie after the movie has been written, filmed, and edited. Is it the movie's fault that the studio lied about what the movie is? Should a movie be held to account for something that was entirely out of its hands?

Well, as the consumer who walked into Drive expecting a fast, thrilling ride and instead getting something slow and meditative (with punches of extreme violence), who else do you have to blame? The marketer isn't there to yell at. The trailer isn't playing to you. The movie is, and it's not what you expected.


Taking What the Movie Gives You

Half the time I start a movie, I've completely forgotten what it's about when I pop it in, especially when it's a Netflix DVD. I placed that DVD on my queue roughly 4 years ago. I know the title, but I barely know what its genre is, or what the summary on the envelope says. Often, I don't even read the summary and just pop the film in. There was something about this movie that got me to put it in my queue at some point, so that's good enough, I suppose. I have no preconceived notions about what the movie should be, because I have little to no idea what it is at all.

I think this practice has conditioned me to expect nothing from a movie once it starts. Since I barely know what I'm getting into, I'm open to whatever it could end up being. Combine that with the fact that my narrative priorities are out of line with most people who consider pacing to be important, and you have a good mix for an audience willing to follow a slow movie as it spends time wandering the Russian countryside as a painter doesn't paint.

It's all about preferences. Are you wrong because you hear the name Tarkovsky and keel over in pain? Not at all. One of the most knowledgeable men I've ever met in the arena of movies found Tarkovsky boring (that would be Stephen Prince, the film scholar who's written a book or two about Kurosawa). I can think of several people in these glorious comments who find Malick unbearable (for several reasons). I've tried to get people into Bergman and they've hated me afterwards.

The thing is, I'm going to play the advocate for a moment. Slow movies can be wonderful. Slow doesn’t mean bad or boring. If you're not used to it, that doesn't mean that you can't get into it. You need some kind of gateway before you try Andrei Rublev. Might I suggest something like Solaris, by Soderbergh of course.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
A Dog's Journey

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Prime Cut

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:
Manon des Sources (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review Poster blurb: "This is the better half of the whole story, but it couldn’t exist without the first." ["Library"]
Beowulf (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Full Review "So, what we end up having isn’t so much an adaptation of Beowulf, but an adaptation of a master’s thesis on Beowulf." [Personal Collection]
The Virgin Spring (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "This has long been my favorite Bergman, and now that I’m in the middle of the thirty-nine films of the Criterion boxset, I think I can begin to understand why." [Personal Collection]
The Silence (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "That silence (not absence) frustrates Bergman. He wants to hear from God, but he finds God’s vessels on earth (the Church in particular) to be empty." [Personal Collection]
Winter Light (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "These movies are intelligent, touching, and difficult, but they are also extremely rewarding to the patient viewer willing to give the films a chance." [Personal Collection]
Pathfinder (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) Full Review "What an ugly movie." [Netflix DVD]
The Seventh Seal (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "Along the way, as Block continues his game with Death, tricking and being tricked himself on the board, we see the little lives of these people. Jons is the most entertaining character because his nihilism is delivered so drily and with such wit that he’s a joy just to watch." [Personal Collection]
Soy Cuba (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It’s a very good movie, all done in the service to one of humanity’s great evil regimes. Your mileage may vary." ["Library"]


Contact

Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.

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I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 07:59 PM (zZbCU)

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 07:59 PM (zZbCU)


Heh. Had to fix a typo.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:00 PM (b7IdW)

3 I see Cold Blue is only playing here at 7:30 on Thursday

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (BbGew)

4 2 1 Bolded...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 07:59 PM (zZbCU)

Heh. Had to fix a typo.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:00 PM (b7IdW)

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Probably my bad. Sorry.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (zZbCU)

5 Winter Light is my favorite Bergman movie.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (b7IdW)

6 Probably my bad. Sorry.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (zZbCU)


Actually, it wasn't. It was mine. I typo-ed an early close-bold tag.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:02 PM (b7IdW)

7 Most Malick sucks to me because the pacing is way too slow, to the point that it's indulgent to me, not artistic. FFS, he did Days of Heaven in 90 minutes and it's his best.

Kubrick's early flicks The Killing and Paths of Glory are tight as drums. Some have issue with 2001 because it's slow (I don't).

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:03 PM (1UZdv)

8 I think it's very noticeable that movies from 30 years ago and more are much slower paced than movies today have gotten, even action movies. And I find it makes the story telling much more intense and dramatic - often frenetic, constant action is used as a disguise to hide the reality that the plot is just thin.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (V2Yro)

9 Yay, movie thread!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (kQs4Y)

10 Dances with Wolves was incredibly slow and boring.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (PUmDY)

11 I guess the pacing is my problem with Joan of Arc, but I couldn't really put it into words until now, after I just read your essay tonight.

Thanks.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (xIKXj)

12 Lola is hot though in a hood rat kinda way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (Z+IKu)

13 On the advice of the RLM guys I rented “Under the Silver Lake”, from the guy who made “It Follows”. It is available on Amazon.

Odd little flick about obsession, paranoia, and hidden meaning in seedy L.A. A scruffy Andrew Garfield goes down the conspiracy rabbit hole after his cute apartment neighbor disappears. Lynchian with lots of refs to old Hollywood, it dares to employ obvious mat paintings, and it uses a lush score straight out of a Hitchcock movie.

I’m still not sure how I feel about it, It’s interesting, if slo-o-o-ow, but it’s constantly building toward something. It’s a good sweatpants-and-a-beer movie; not sure if I would waste a trip to a movie theater to see it (was it even distributed to theaters?).

Now I’m watching “Mid90s”, another film by the group A24. I tend to like their movies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (kQs4Y)

14 I can handle a slow paced movie if the dialogue is interesting, but I would say I am in the larger group that likes a medium or faster pace.

I remember taking my kids to see The Secret Life of Pets and they were expecting what was in the trailer. Sad disappointment. Boring.
And finally, trailers should save some of the best jokes for the movie, but they rarely do so they aren't as funny as when you see them in the film.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 08:08 PM (r+sAi)

15 5 Winter Light is my favorite Bergman movie.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (b7IdW)

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It's a great one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:08 PM (zZbCU)

16 The one movie that jumps to mind first when talking about fast pacing is the German film Run Lola Run. It's breakneck.



That is a good movie. It shows how one little thing can change the entire course of events and how lives are changed by it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 18, 2019 08:08 PM (IINHo)

17 The slow pace of Solaris works because it forces you to sit there and pick apart the things the movie is asking.

Posted by: Australian Voter at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (oVJmc)

18 Dances with Wolves was incredibly slow and boring.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (PUmDY)


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It takes hours if you're really serious about using every part of the buffalo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (4knXT)

19 Castaway was very slow.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (PUmDY)

20 I've seen Run Lola Run but couldn't tell you what it was about.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (BbGew)

21 20 I've seen Run Lola Run but couldn't tell you what it was about.
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (BbGew

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A girl named Lola. She runs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (zZbCU)

22 I suspect that our culture generally despises slow paced movies today because they ask the audience to think, rather than just react and feel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (V2Yro)

23 I really liked Run Lola Run. That aside, you can usually tell a Euro flick from a Hollywood flick because the Euro films have long pauses. If you watch an 80s/90s film an the camera focuses on a flower for more than a few seconds, it is likely Euro. Even the great Once Upon a Time in the West had that long scene with Jack Elam and the fly You would never see that out of Hollyweird.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (n13/j)

24 I wouldn't want to write off a film that works like that completely (Independence Day has no action for a solid 30 minutes between its second and third acts), but I think it's safe to say that audiences don't want to spend a long time watching people talk about their feelings in the middle of their exciting action spectaculars.



The first half an hour of The Longest Day was just talking. The Allies about should they go, the Germans where and when the Allies will attack. The French about who they'll surrender to. Then all hell break loose. Of course movies were made differently then and audiences were different too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (IINHo)

25 Nostalgia by Tarkovsky is brutally slow.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (y7DUB)

26 Watched Full Metal Jacket last night and made me think of new movie category.

Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.

The other one's that come to mind are

Stripes
Porky's

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:12 PM (2DOZq)

27 The Shawshank Redemption has a leisurely pace that was perfect for unreeling a character-based story. It never got tedious. IMO It's the gold standard of cinematic storytelling.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (4knXT)

28 John Wick 3 is balletic action with great visuals. Little plot, except to set-up John Wick 4.

Wick doesn't understand overkill. He relishes in it.

Saw it in Dolby. Great sound

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (1UZdv)

29 A girl named Lola. She runs."

Are you sure about that?

Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
Lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (V2Yro)

30 @14 And finally, trailers should save some of the best jokes for the movie, but they rarely do so they aren't as funny as when you see them in the film.

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There was an episode of Stargate SG-1 in which the cast tossed around ideas for a movie that would be the follow-up to an in-setting TV series. One of the ideas mentioned was to have the surprise appearance of a long-absent cast member from the in-setting TV series. The SG-1 cast then dismissed the idea, because the surprise would be spoiled in the trailers.

As it turns out, that episode had the surprise appearance of a cast member who hadn't been seen in a while (Richard Dean Anderson). And that surprise appearance was spoiled by the ad for that particular episode.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (Fp6vo)

31 Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.

Heathers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (y7DUB)

32 Having given this a good 15 seconds of thought, I think my favorite type of pacing is a movie that begins slowly but like a freight train rolling down hill it gets faster and faster until in the final real it jumps the tracks and crashes into huge storage tanks at a refinery and there's a huge explosion!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:14 PM (+y/Ru)

33 Couple of weeks ago was slowly getting to see Birth of a Nation but after a few nights stopped, my YouTube will start where I left off if I get back to it.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:14 PM (BbGew)

34 I did not read any prior posts before posting. Now that's a coincidence.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

35 26 Saving Private Ryan

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (BbGew)

36 Even the great Once Upon a Time in the West had that long scene with Jack Elam and the fly You would never see that out of Hollyweird.

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Well, they would've had to pay a union fly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (+y/Ru)

37 36 Even the great Once Upon a Time in the West had that long scene with Jack Elam and the fly You would never see that out of Hollyweird.

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Well, they would've had to pay a union fly.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (+y/Ru

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Free trade honey on the guy's beard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (zZbCU)

38 Recently saw "A Fortunate Man" on netflix. Interesting but depressing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (r+sAi)

39 " Castaway was very slow."

It was meant to give you the feeling of being marooned.

Like Lawrence of Arabia makes you feel the vast, arid desert.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (1UZdv)

40 35 I'd love to see that in a theater but would leave after 35 minutes.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (BbGew)

41 My favorite part of "Open Range was before the action starts, particularly the scene setting first part of the film.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:17 PM (n13/j)

42 I am so fed up with movies.

I saw where "they" are remaking Jacob's Ladder. You couldn't possibly make that movie better than it already is, which I believe is great. YMMV of course.

Daughter (11) wanted to see Avengers Yawn Game today so we went to that. Three hours of Meh bordering on hypnotizing (with the apparent goal being death by ennui).

I would like to see an original script for a decent story with interesting characters, plot and some action.

NOT another superhero movie or a reboot/remake.

Is that really so difficult, Hollywood?

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (smc0A)

43 Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.

Event Horizon.

Posted by: Australian Voter at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (oVJmc)

44 Drive is a movie you're going to either love or hate. I loved it.

There Will Be Blood would be my vote for worst paced movie ever.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

45 Castaway was very slow."



It was meant to give you the feeling of being marooned.



Like Lawrence of Arabia makes you feel the vast, arid desert.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (1UZdv)

but was it really that good? It didn't stick with me but maybe it did with others.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (n13/j)

46 Lola seems nice.

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (qBNEP)

47 Once Upon a Time in America was overly slow and long.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)

48 Castaway was very slow.
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I thought it was brilliant how they contrasted the breakneck pace of his modern life, measured down to the second, with his endless days on the tropical island that seemed to be almost outside the timestream.

They cut to a point years in the future, and he has an almost flat, animal expression, and then suddenly, a spark is lit, his eyes focus and he starts scheming for a way to escape.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (kQs4Y)

49 S-l-o-w paced movie: The Arrival
Super fat: District B13

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (W+vEI)

50 There was an episode of Stargate SG-1 in which the cast tossed around ideas for a movie that would be the follow-up to an in-setting TV series. One of the ideas mentioned was to have the surprise appearance of a long-absent cast member from the in-setting TV series. The SG-1 cast then dismissed the idea, because the surprise would be spoiled in the trailers.

As it turns out, that episode had the surprise appearance of a cast member who hadn't been seen in a while (Richard Dean Anderson). And that surprise appearance was spoiled by the ad for that particular episode.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (Fp6vo)

I recently watched again the 200th Episode - that is one of the most hilarious episodes in any sci-fi series ever, and it is basically just one in-joke after another. At one point, they're talking about copying other popular shows, and they describe "Farscape" which both Ben Browder and Claudia Black had been in, and end that segment with "naah, nobody ever heard of that." (which was always the knock on Farscape, great show that nobody ever heard of)

And then the coup de grace was when they do Marionettes, and they walk through the Gate, and all their strings are cut...

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (V2Yro)

51 Saving Private Ryan is three movies in one. The first better than the second, the second better than the third.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (1UZdv)

52 Manon des Sources - "This is the better half of the whole story, but it couldn't exist without the first."

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After watching both Jean de Fleuret and Manon of the Spring, my observation was that the second film was clearly made to keep you from slitting your wrists after watching the first one.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:20 PM (Fp6vo)

53 Jaws was two movies for sure, both great.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:20 PM (n13/j)

54 52 Manon des Sources - "This is the better half of the whole story, but it couldn't exist without the first."

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After watching both Jean de Fleuret and Manon of the Spring, my observation was that the second film was clearly made to keep you from slitting your wrists after watching the first one.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:20 PM (Fp6vo

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From what I understand, the original author wanted to tell the second half, but just kept expanding the first until it became its own story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:22 PM (zZbCU)

55 from Jean de Fleuret: "I'm not crying! My eyes are crying!"

I've never forgotten that

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:22 PM (xIKXj)

56 Also Euro movies have actual ugly people. Hollywood films have all good looking people but pick one or two for bad make up to play homely. A great Brit film that has actual realistic looking people is "Secrets and Lies". The Spaghetti Westerns had all kinds of not so handsome folk.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:23 PM (n13/j)

57 If I like a slower move it must have beautiful cinematography. It must be big, like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "Doctor Zhivago". A good score doesn't hurt either. Might add "2001 a Space Odyssey" as well.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (xNAv5)

58 The Deer Hunter was also three movies . I liked the one in the middle.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (2DOZq)

59 I've been on a bit of a super hero movie binge. In the last few weeks I've watched Wonder Woman, the two Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man 2 and Green Lantern.
The latter sucked. I liked WW and the Guardian movies because of the light edge they had. I could watch Gal Gadot's face endlessly.
Scarlett Johansson, in Iron Man 2 had a somewhat nicer ass than Brie Larson.
Green Lantern sucked.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:25 PM (JgA4k)

60 Green Lantern sucked.
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A running joke in the Deadpool movies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:26 PM (kQs4Y)

61 Anyone see the movie Everybody Dies ?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:26 PM (2DOZq)

62 @54 From what I understand, the original author wanted to tell the second half, but just kept expanding the first until it became its own story.

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Sounds reasonable. As OM noted above, you can't really watch the second movie without watching the first one. Well, you could. But it wouldn't have anywhere near the same level of impact if you hadn't seen Jean first.

Unfortunately, that means that the first movie is downright painful to watch because of how depressing it is.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (Fp6vo)

63 10
Dances with Wolves was incredibly slow and boring.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (PUmDY)

I loved the first part. It went downhill with the Indians are one with nature/Americans dumb and horrible second act.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (n13/j)

64 "I could watch Gal Gadot's face endlessly"

There's a scene in WW where she gushes over a baby. I'd have married her on the spot.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (1UZdv)

65 Here's a concept in storytelling that is super important to some
people, but not to me. And because it's not that important to me, I kind
of don't get it.

Well, I get what it is and have a rough idea of how to measure it, but I
don't get why it's important. It's really a taste thing, but when
people throw it up in a critique ("The movie was poorly paced" or
"inconsistently paced"), they seem to include it as some sort of
objective measure of quality. And I'd disagree vehemently. Its existence
is objective, but its importance is (almost) purely subjective.
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I assume whoever wrote this is not a musician.

This is because musicians understand the concept of tempo, which is the speed at which the composition is supposed to be played. This applies to all music, and it refers to whether or not it is moving at the right speed.

A piece that is being played too fast is called "rushing" while one played too slowly is "dragging."

It is possible to :"rush" an up-tempo march and "drag" a slow, contemplative dirge.

What's really bad is when you drag a march and rush a dirge.

In movies, pacing is the same thing. You can rush an already fast-paced film and drag a slow one.

Hope that clears it up.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (cfSRQ)

66 I much prefer "How the West was Won" to "Once Upon a Time in the West"

more pioneers, history, love. more of a family movie

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (xIKXj)

67 >>Also Euro movies have actual ugly people. Hollywood films have all good looking people but pick one or two for bad make up to play homely.

They also have regular-looking homes.
This is especially jarring when Hollywood remakes a foreign film. In "Mostly Martha" the lead lives in a 1 bedroom apartment and sleeps on the couch when she has to take care of her niece. In the Catherine Zeta Jones version, she lives in this yuge loft and just plops the niece in her own instant-princess room w/about 100 stuffed animals and toys. Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:28 PM (W+vEI)

68 Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.-----------
Baby Driver. Great setup, meh rest

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 08:28 PM (BRgHt)

69 Paul Thomas Anderson can make some slow long movies.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:28 PM (PUmDY)

70 62 @54 From what I understand, the original author wanted to tell the second half, but just kept expanding the first until it became its own story.

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Sounds reasonable. As OM noted above, you can't really watch the second movie without watching the first one. Well, you could. But it wouldn't have anywhere near the same level of impact if you hadn't seen Jean first.

Unfortunately, that means that the first movie is downright painful to watch because of how depressing it is.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (Fp6vo

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Yes...OM said it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (zZbCU)

71 I've started watching a Filipino movie on Netflix. Really. It's about a female assassin.
The women are all hot, but the movie defines cheesy.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (JgA4k)

72 Buttboy wants to get rid of all things Jefferson.

Isn't T Jefferson's mug on the two dollar bill ???

just sayin

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (DPjeO)

73 My two favorite American remake of European films were Let the Right One In and Point of No Return.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (2DOZq)

74 I'd put 2001 in the slow movies, very slow movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (BbGew)

75 Movie You Love That Everyone Else Hates

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 08:31 PM (BRgHt)

76 66 I much prefer "How the West was Won" to "Once Upon a Time in the West"

more pioneers, history, love. more of a family movie
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (xIKXj)

Which one has Claudia Cardinale? She looks nice.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:32 PM (JgA4k)

77 >>Movie You Love That Everyone Else Hates



Heh, easy: World War Z.
Bring on the hate!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:33 PM (W+vEI)

78 Movie You Love That Everyone Else Hates
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Brain Candy

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:34 PM (kQs4Y)

79 Buttboy wants to get rid of all things Jefferson.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (DPjeO)

What did I do? First my son marries a zebra and now this.

Weezy!.....

Posted by: Zombie George Jefferson at May 18, 2019 08:34 PM (Z+IKu)

80 57
If I like a slower move it must have beautiful cinematography. It must
be big, like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "Doctor Zhivago". A good score
doesn't hurt either. Might add "2001 a Space Odyssey" as well.


Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (xNAv5)

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So what you're saying is that you like the film equivalent of classical music with rich and varied themes within them. You don't mind if it's longer than say a Sousa march, so long as it keeps you interested.

That's what I mean by tempo and pacing.

When I purchase classical music, I pay close attention to the time on each track because that tells me how fast (or slow) the conductor chose to take it. I once saw a recording of the 1812 Overture that was north of 15 minutes. Must have really dragged.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:34 PM (cfSRQ)

81 Teem, that would be 'Once."

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:35 PM (xIKXj)

82 "Hud " was on the other night

IMO, almost a perfect movie

And being raised on east TX ranch from 1951 to 1969, I found it quite accurate

My uncle JW died in 2005 at 88 , with a rag top caddy and a girlfriend.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (DPjeO)

83 I don't think Kubrick did a not slow movie besides maybe Ben Hur. Hmmm, much like PTA.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (PUmDY)

84 In movies, pacing is the same thing. You can rush an already fast-paced film and drag a slow one.

Hope that clears it up.



Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
And dynamics. Pace can't just be speed.

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (gO7fe)

85 73
My two favorite American remake of European films were Let the Right One In and Point of No Return.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (2DOZq)

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The problem with Le Femme Nikita is that France doesn't have a death penalty. So the notion that she's going to be "disappeared" is ridiculous on its face.

Even the most violent European felon will be out in a few years because that's how they roll. The guy who killed a hundred plus in Norway will be out in only a few years because they capped sentences at 20 years. Big deal.

The US version worked because we've got Old Sparky and we know how to use it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (cfSRQ)

86 I loved the "creation" sequence in The Tree of Life, the insertion of which drove some viewers batty.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (kQs4Y)

87 Ooooh... my Best Hash Ever.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 08:38 PM (BRgHt)

88 I've got two words for ya...
Rambo First Blood Part 1

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 18, 2019 08:38 PM (flINI)

89 I loved the first part. It went downhill with the Indians are one with nature/Americans dumb and horrible second act.

Posted by: Quint


"And the 'Great Horse Culture of the Plains was no more . . . "

You mean the horse culture that only started a couple hundred years before when the Spanish brought horses to the Western Hemisphere for the first time?

Not exaclty an ancient culture.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (smc0A)

90 86 I loved the "creation" sequence in The Tree of Life, the insertion of which drove some viewers batty.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (kQs4Y)

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It's God's cinematic answer to Mother's anguish.

It's beautiful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (zZbCU)

91 Movie you love that everyone else hates-

Star Trek TMP

Posted by: Retief at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (yBQiw)

92 Wait, so wasn't Jefferson the guy that wrote the letter to the church about separation that isn't mentioned anywhere in the constitution?

Well, okay (D)s. I guess I'll listen to your idea.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 08:41 PM (lPsvG)

93 Retief, the RLM guys have a ReView on ST:TMP and they like it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUxZmen6G2U

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:41 PM (kQs4Y)

94 Eris, I agree, the rest not near as much. The Nuclear bomb test episode in Twin Peaks Returns was similarly great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (PUmDY)

95 91 Movie you love that everyone else hates-

Star Trek TMP
Posted by: Retief at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (yBQiw)

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You might be wrong:

https://tinyurl.com/y624vvwv

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (zZbCU)

96 47
Once Upon a Time in America was overly slow and long.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)


I only saw it on TV but I liked it.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (sdi6R)

97 Regarding movies, book, whatever; rule is the same as my father's If the critics hate it go to see it. If the critics love it do not see it.

.This rule has never failed me.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (pw+jk)

98 First half/Second half movies:

From Dusk 'Til Dawn (AKA Okay, what the actual fuck just happened?)

Midnight Meat Train (AKA Okay, what the actual fuck just happened)?

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (smc0A)

99
The US version worked because we've got Old Sparky and we know how to use it.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd


When's the last time anyone got sparked?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 08:43 PM (aKsyK)

100 Movie you love that everyone else hates

Night at the Roxbury
Superstar

Just a coincidence that they are both SNL characters. And I don't really like SNL,

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:43 PM (2DOZq)

101 Anyone see the movie Everybody Dies ?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation


Game of Thrones?

Yes. And good riddance to every single character, except the wolves.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (smc0A)

102 Rickl, excited about the Rolling Thunder doc and box ser?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (PUmDY)

103 Buffalo 66

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (w7KSn)

104 And dynamics. Pace can't just be speed.


Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (gO7fe)

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Of course. Do you take time to work through the new theme and let it develop, or just abruptly shift into something new and up-temo?

That why pacing is entirely different from plot. You can go through a plot quickly or slowly. Does it overwhelm you with important events or develop slowly?

Where people have a problem is a thin plot that takes forever or a plot point that seems rushed (i.e. Game of Thrones with psycho blonde chick).

I find GoT tedious and a lot of that is the pacing. We get these long, dramatic-pause-inducing dialogue scenes and then BOOM! A character does something that should have been fully explained, but wasn't.

It's like music that speeds up and slows down randomly.

In my misspent youth I was a tuba player and just for kicks got together with the bass drummer to see how much we could jack up the high school band by ourselves.

The answer is: Quite a bit. We started out dragging the hell out of everything, so that the director was banging the baton and glaring at us, so then we let it rip and in no time flat she was waving her hands to get us to slow down.

The music was supposed to keep an even pace, but we screwed it up.

Drama works the exact same way.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (cfSRQ)

105 Yes...OM said it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (zZbCU)


This always cracks me up...

I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (b7IdW)

106 I consider the LOTR movies to show excellent pacing. Yes, it has beautiful scenery but doesn't turn into a travelogue. Being fantasy it needs a fair bit of explanation but doesn't get bogged down in dialogue. There's always a sense of discovery as well as plenty of action to keep the audience's attention. There's no time to relax until the closing credits.

About the worst pacing in a movie I ever saw was the first Star Trek movie. The director fell in love with the fancy visual effects and forgot to tell the story. I'm surprised it didn't sink the franchise.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 08:45 PM (bmdz3)

107 Until the most recent one in Tennessee (iirc) with lethal injection, the previous two guys put to death chose the electric chair.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

108 Cosmic Charley, the weirdest most Lynchian bits in the new Twin Peaks episodes were the best bits, IMO.

It was the "Slow Dougie" part that dragged for me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:46 PM (kQs4Y)

109 wow, I just went to IMDb and watched a trailer for The Tree of Life.

I'd love to see it. It looks monumental.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:46 PM (xIKXj)

110 I might be the only person in USA that

Never smoked a cigarette, never played a video game and never saw a Star Wars movie

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (DPjeO)

111 @105
This always cracks me up...

I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.

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D'oh...

My bad. I looked at the bottom of the post (which was next to the quote I was borrowing) where the individual who made the post is listed, instead of the top, where JM's name can be found.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (Fp6vo)

112 105 Yes...OM said it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (zZbCU)

This always cracks me up...

I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (b7IdW)

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I don't think there's a good option outside of giving me keys to the HQ van.

I find it funny too, so I don't see it as a big problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (zZbCU)

113 82 "Hud " was on the other night

IMO, almost a perfect movie

And being raised on east TX ranch from 1951 to 1969, I found it quite accurate

My uncle JW died in 2005 at 88 , with a rag top caddy and a girlfriend.

I think that was the first Larry McMurtry novel to make it to film. (Horseman, Pass By) Now he knew what he was writing about.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (V2Yro)

114 106
I consider the LOTR movies to show excellent pacing. Yes, it has
beautiful scenery but doesn't turn into a travelogue. Being fantasy it
needs a fair bit of explanation but doesn't get bogged down in dialogue.
There's always a sense of discovery as well as plenty of action to keep
the audience's attention. There's no time to relax until the closing
credits.



About the worst pacing in a movie I ever saw was the first Star Trek
movie. The director fell in love with the fancy visual effects and
forgot to tell the story. I'm surprised it didn't sink the franchise.



Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 08:45 PM (bmdz3)

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Yes, LOTR has good pacing, but increasingly stupid plot (because Jackson re-wrote it).

The first Star Trek movie is awful. Shoulda cut a half hour from it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:48 PM (cfSRQ)

115 OM, how about:

"[author's] Saturday Evening Movie Thread"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:48 PM (W+vEI)

116 I might be the only person in USA that



Never smoked a cigarette, never played a video game and never saw a Star Wars movie



Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (DPjeO)

I think you might be right.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (n13/j)

117 You need to call it something poncey like "OregonMuse Presents: James Madison on Film", and we cut to TJM in a smoking jacket in front of a crackling fire.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (kQs4Y)

118 Eris, agree completely.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (PUmDY)

119 109 wow, I just went to IMDb and watched a trailer for The Tree of Life.

I'd love to see it. It looks monumental.
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:46 PM (xIKXj

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If you watch it, you really need to give it as much attention as you can.

Last time I watched it, I waited until I had the house to myself, put my phone in another room, turned off all the lights, and dragged my love seat right in front of the television.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (zZbCU)

120 @114 Yes, LOTR has good pacing, but increasingly stupid plot (because Jackson re-wrote it).

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Yup.

The first of the three movies, which sticks most closely to the original source material, has always been my favorite.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (Fp6vo)

121 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (2DOZq)

122 Home at last!!!
Tried watching Infinity Room on Netflix yesterday. Boring!!! Couldn't even finish it....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (HaNEn)

123 Drama works the exact same way.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd

Yep. I'm not a musician, but you're exactly right. What gets missed further is the VISUAL elements. That's a symphony. Masses, movement, framing. Timing being exact.

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (gO7fe)

124 Buttboy wants to get rid of all things Jefferson.

Isn't T Jefferson's mug on the two dollar bill ???

just sayin

Posted by: REDACTED


Just part of the utterly evil progressive goal of destroying the past so people forget where we came from. Easier to put your boot on their neck.

Pete Buttfuck: "The guy who wrote the second most consequential document in human history? Fuck THAT guy. He wasn't perfect. Now where are my free government meds for my prolapsed colon."

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (smc0A)

125 Buffalo 66
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (w7KSn)

Yup...so bad it's good. Weird movie but it's set in Buffalo so it's what you'd expect.

Wasn't Ben Gazzara the creepy dad in that one?

The dinner scene was awful.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (Z+IKu)

126 117 You need to call it something poncey like "OregonMuse Presents: James Madison on Film", and we cut to TJM in a smoking jacket in front of a crackling fire.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (kQs4Y

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After my mouth heals and I can smoke a cigar again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (zZbCU)

127 117
You need to call it something poncey like "OregonMuse Presents: James
Madison on Film", and we cut to TJM in a smoking jacket in front of a
crackling fire.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (kQs4Y)

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Gotta have a snifter of fine cognac.

I love how older films show that - because snifter = class.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (cfSRQ)

128 @115 OM, how about:

"[author's] Saturday Evening Movie Thread"

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Wouldn't have helped in this instance. As I noted, I pulled the name from the bottom of the post where it listed the person who put it up.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (Fp6vo)

129 The only problem I had with Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman was that she was kind of soft. Model legs, not athlete legs. Very nice legs, but soft.

Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (p6Q7Q)

130 I saw the first Star Trek movie in a theater, it was more visual effects to get it going, at the time that was a eye opener but doesn't hold up now.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (BbGew)

131 I think it's true that only the even numbered Star Treks were good.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:52 PM (2DOZq)

132 130 I saw the first Star Trek movie in a theater, it was more visual effects to get it going, at the time that was a eye opener but doesn't hold up now.
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (BbGew

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Those special effects have a dramatic and intellectual purpose. They contrast the size of humanity's achievement with the vast unknown intelligence that is coming to earth. I don't quite love the movie, but the idea that the special effects are empty is flat out wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (zZbCU)

133 121 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (2DOZq)

We're remaking it, it's better now

Posted by: Dr. Ben Carson at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (DPjeO)

134
Yup.



The first of the three movies, which sticks most closely to the original source material, has always been my favorite.



Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (Fp6vo)

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He cribbed from the Bakshi version, which is arguably better in many ways.

There's a youtube where they show how much Jackson stole by putting the two films side-by-side.

I don't like Jackson. "Meet the Feebles" is beyond painful.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (cfSRQ)

135 124
Just part of the utterly evil progressive goal of destroying the
past so people forget where we came from. Easier to put your boot on
their neck.



Pete Buttfuck: "The guy who wrote the second most consequential
document in human history? Fuck THAT guy. He wasn't perfect. Now where
are my free government meds for my prolapsed colon."

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (smc0A)


Straight up evil. I'm not even going to try to finesse it.
Who is he working for? What is the point of his candidacy?

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

136 129 The only problem I had with Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman was that she was kind of soft. Model legs, not athlete legs. Very nice legs, but soft.
Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (p6Q7Q)

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Yes. This is a dealbreaker for me. This is why I resolved to rule out a long term relationship with her.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (4knXT)

137 I'm watching John Wick for the first time on cable, and although the action is impressive, there's really not a whole lot to it, is there?

Oh, John Wick is a bad, tough dude, cool.
Oh, John Wick luvved his lady, he's so sensitive, cool.
And he luvs his dog, even more cool.
Oh, she died, that is so sad. John Wick even looks cool when he's sad.
Bad dudes show up - of course they're Russian, it's gotta be white guys to be PC. And they kill his dog. that is so uncool on their part.
Watch John Wick hunt them all down in cool ways while he drives a cool car. cool.
John Wick kills Big Bad at end. And walks away. Supercool.

Is there anything more to it than that?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:54 PM (V2Yro)

138 huh! IMDb has "freedrive" on which you can watch free movies.

did you know that?

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:54 PM (xIKXj)

139 Those special effects have a dramatic and
intellectual purpose. They contrast the size of humanity's achievement
with the vast unknown intelligence that is coming to earth. I don't
quite love the movie, but the idea that the special effects are empty is
flat out wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (zZbCU)

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No one said empty.

They're tedious. It's a big ship. We get it. Move this damn thing forward already!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (cfSRQ)

140 137
Is there anything more to it than that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:54 PM (V2Yro

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That's about it. It's not great art, but it's solid entertainment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (zZbCU)

141 132

*fistbump*

Posted by: Retief at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (yBQiw)

142 First half/second half movie:

Cabin in the Woods.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (smc0A)

143

Snifter? Why, yes.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (aKsyK)

144 And Buffalo 66 had some big names in it.
The plot was sublime.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (w7KSn)

145 129 The only problem I had with Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman was that she was kind of soft. Model legs, not athlete legs. Very nice legs, but soft.
Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (p6Q7Q)

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Yes. This is a dealbreaker for me. This is why I resolved to rule out a long term relationship with her.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (4knXT)

Yeah, I suppose but her face is gorgeous.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (JgA4k)

146 Is there anything more to it than that?

Posted by: Tom Servo

No, there isn't. It's not really very good.

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (gO7fe)

147 Who is he working for? What is the point of his candidacy?

Posted by: rickl


A. Soros.

B. The destruction of the American constitution and way of life.

Like all the DemonRats.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:58 PM (smc0A)

148 Thanks, James Madison. I'll not have many distractions when I get ahold of a copy of "The Tree of Life." no problem

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:59 PM (xIKXj)

149 I will be seeing John Wick tomorrow.

Here's Razorfist on Blade Runner. Film Noir is in his wheelhouse.
https://youtu.be/E_JxmCZKF-w

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 08:59 PM (rnAwa)

150 >>Straight up evil. I'm not even going to try to finesse it.
Who is he working for? What is the point of his candidacy?


I don't know who he's working for; however, he is 100% Marxist. This is no doubt why he needs to erase Jefferson: he needs to erase his ideas.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:00 PM (W+vEI)

151 "First Blood" was the first Rambo film. But "Rambo" was not in the title.

Posted by: JAS at May 18, 2019 09:01 PM (KOCKb)

152 Well, that's all for me. See everyone at the book thread.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 09:01 PM (cfSRQ)

153 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

154 Similar Movie But Better
Jack Reacher > John Wick

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:04 PM (BRgHt)

155 Just saw John Wick. Gungasm, knife and swordgasm, stupidgasm. I fell asleep.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:07 PM (FTPVM)

156 "First Blood" was the first Rambo film. But "Rambo" was not in the title.


Posted by: JAS at May 18, 2019 09:01 PM (KOCKb)

It was a good film, the first and best of the series. The same with Jaws and Rocky imo, and really, it is not even close.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:07 PM (n13/j)

157 Sorry this is off topic but I need to get it off my chest:

Dear Justin Amash,
Go fuck yourself you fucking fuck.


Carry on.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 18, 2019 09:07 PM (dNzKv)

158 Ugh. One more bit on creepy mayor pete:

The father of Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg was a Marxist professor who spoke fondly of the Communist Manifesto and dedicated a significant portion of his academic career to the work of Italian Communist Party founder Antonio Gramsci, an associate of Vladimir Lenin.

More on his dad's activities to sell Marxism, his life-long passion project: https://tinyurl.com/y5t5wb3s

Ol Pete couldn't even stand up to a little pressure over an interview with Dave Rubin (he cancelled) and yet he thinks he can erase a courageous and brilliant man like Jefferson?? LOLGF

**Apologies for straying from movie discussion**

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:08 PM (W+vEI)

159 114 ... "LOTR has good pacing, but increasingly stupid plot (because Jackson re-wrote it)."

Absolutely agree. The weakest parts of the films are from the rewrites. Aragorn wasn't full of self doubt and reluctant to work towards the crown. That's an unneeded modern trope. Denethor's character is not explained; he's just a bitch. A couple of brief scenes and 30 seconds of dialog would provide the details to show why his is a tragic story. When Gandalf reappears as The White, much of his power and knowledge seems to vanish. Things like these weaken the story in my opinion.

At least Jackson's rewrites in LOTR weren't as bad as what he did with The Hobbit movie.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 09:08 PM (bmdz3)

160 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

Yes he played those roles well but everything in HUD was depressing to me. There was no laughter. No scenes to break up the drudgery. No one got out without being screwed up.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

161 Movies you love that everyone hates-
Paint Your Wagon

Posted by: Tony at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (BceaH)

162 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (JgA4k)

163 My goodness! I had to take a shower after the chess porn. (I'm not quite a total geek.)

So what's on tap?

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (LuPts)

164 I enjoyed Solaris (Ruskie version) more than I thought I would. Even bought on DVD. It's one of those movies that I've watched several times and still can't figure out why I liked it a lot but I did. Weird.

Drive is a great flick. Ryan Gosling seems to do well in movies where he doesn't say much.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2019 09:11 PM (aebXF)

165 That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

Always thought it was his best movie, he got to use his voice very effectively.
Should have join Pat Neal and Mel Douglas as the winner of the best actor Oscar.
Got robbed , Sidney in Lillies, total BS call

Posted by: Dr. Ben Carson at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (DPjeO)

166 >>Is there anything more to it than that?

Nope.
IIRC, it's directed by Keanu's stunt man from the Matrix? Heavy on style, mood and super-cool action.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (W+vEI)

167 @162 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

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ScarJo wrapping her legs around your head? Or Famke Jannsen wrapping her legs around your chest?

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (Fp6vo)

168 If anyone has Amazon Prime, "Cold War" is pretty good. It's in Polish and kinda artsy fartsy but it's a good look at post war Communism and how it just ruined lives. There was a review on The Federalist that brought it to my attention.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (4thlk)

169 ST TMP suffered a lot of production problems I think. Roddenberry was clearly out of his depth and trying to make an intellectual flick of the kind that Star Trek is really ill equipped to tell. Robert Wise's talents didn't translate into the ST genre very well either. Good, even great director, but for more terrestrial contemporary drama.

And yeah, plodding 2001 ASO rip-off scenes just made the entire movie both boring and too self-aware, as well as cynical.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (IfYaq)

170 Solaris is a favorite of mine.

I've never seen the Russian version. worthwhile?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (H5knJ)

171 161 Movies you love that everyone hates-
Paint Your Wagon
Posted by: Tony at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (BceaH)

You do have a bag on your head at the moment, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (DPjeO)

172 164 I enjoyed Solaris (Ruskie version) more than I thought I would. Even bought on DVD. It's one of those movies that I've watched several times and still can't figure out why I liked it a lot but I did. Weird.
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Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2019 09:11 PM (aebXF)

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Maybe you could enjoy Andrei Rublev. Or maybe start with Ivan's Childhood, Tarkovsky's first movie, which is actually pretty short.

The great thing about Tarkovsky is that if you discover him and like him, you're pretty much guaranteed to enjoy the rest. The bad part is that he only made 7 films.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:14 PM (zZbCU)

173 163
My goodness! I had to take a shower after the chess porn. (I'm not quite a total geek.)


Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (LuPts)


I think there were more comments about bombers than chess in that thread. All because of a dress pattern.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (sdi6R)

174

Movies you hate that everybody loves -

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (aKsyK)

175 168 If anyone has Amazon Prime, "Cold War" is pretty good. It's in Polish and kinda artsy fartsy but it's a good look at post war Communism and how it just ruined lives. There was a review on The Federalist that brought it to my attention.
Posted by: lowandslow at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (4thlk)

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I watched it this week. It's really good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (zZbCU)

176 170 Solaris is a favorite of mine.

I've never seen the Russian version. worthwhile?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls



I think it is. I've never seen the Clooney version though. I'm meh on Clooney.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (aebXF)

177 170 Solaris is a favorite of mine.

I've never seen the Russian version. worthwhile?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (H5knJ)

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It's great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (zZbCU)

178 @161 Paint Your Wagon

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Never seen it. Buy my Mom used to listen to the songs all the time when I was young. As a result, songs about things such as 400 men in Lonesome Creek are engraved on my brain.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (Fp6vo)

179 160 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

Yes he played those roles well but everything in HUD was depressing to me. There was no laughter. No scenes to break up the drudgery. No one got out without being screwed up.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:09 PM (2DOZq)


I saw a dubbed copy of "Hud" on EBAY, complete with laugh track

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (DPjeO)

180 Ditto on "Cold War".
If nothing else, great music bits.
AAAND it's a love story.

Posted by: navybrat swimming upstream at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (w7KSn)

181 I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.

The James Monroe Movie Thread !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (icuj/)

182 178 @161 Paint Your Wagon

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Never seen it. Buy my Mom used to listen to the songs all the time when I was young. As a result, songs about things such as 400 men in Lonesome Creek are engraved on my brain.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (Fp6vo

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Gonna paint my wagon
Gonna paint it fine
Gonna use oil based paint
Cause the wood is pine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (zZbCU)

183 Speaking of changing tempos/styles within one piece, Roxy Music were masters. Songs like Virginia Plain.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (PUmDY)

184

I love TJMs movie commentaries. And they're so thoughtful and erudite. I just wish I knew what the hell he was talking about.

Posted by: Splainin at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (NnG5Q)

185 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

Posted by: Northern Lurker


Ilsa Faust (Rebecca Ferguson - be still my beating heart) in MI: Rogue Nation.

I believe the technical term for that move is "Vag Fu".


Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (smc0A)

186 There's a BIG ol' Full Moon out tonight .

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (icuj/)

187 146 Is there anything more to it than that?
Posted by: Tom Servo

No, there isn't. It's not really very good.
Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (gO7fe)


I agree. I don't get the John Wick love. To me, it was just mindless violence, very excessive violence, and nothing else.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (b7IdW)

188 184

I love TJMs movie commentaries. And they're so thoughtful and erudite. I just wish I knew what the hell he was talking about.
Posted by: Splainin at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (NnG5Q

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You and me both.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (zZbCU)

189 171 161 Movies you love that everyone hates-

Paint Your Wagon

Posted by: Tony at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (BceaH)



You do have a bag on your head at the moment, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (DPjeO)'
City Slickers 2.

movie I hate and don't think anyone should love:The Quick and the Dead 1995. Not the L'amour book or film, the Sharon Stone thing.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (n13/j)

190 Paint Your Wagon was one of my father's favorites.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (2DOZq)

191 185
Ilsa Faust (Rebecca Ferguson - be still my beating heart) in MI: Rogue Nation.

I believe the technical term for that move is "Vag Fu".


Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (smc0A

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She plays Jessica, Paul's mother, in the be Dune film out next year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (zZbCU)

192 Pacing is something that I think benefits from comparing book and movie. Obvious example: 3 Days of the Condor. The book was 6 Days of the Condor. Well, why? worth a look.

But the one I go back to over and over is from The Hunt for Red October. There's a crisis near the end involving three submarines. In the movie, their fates are interwoven, over and under each other, huge drama at the end. In the book, the same things happen, I think in the same order, but they're like beads on a string. No building drama. Lots to learn there.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (BCg2A)

193
There's a BIG ol' Full Moon out tonight .
Posted by: JT


Is that one of those songs from Paint Your Wagon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (aKsyK)

194 Lee Marvin was great in Paint Your Wagon

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (FTPVM)

195 Simpson's Paint your wagon

https://youtu.be/VM5-xFenaZI

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (rnAwa)

196 Equalizer 2 > Equalizer

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

197 (ring ring)
Hello?
May I speak to Moron Robbie?
This is he.
Hi, this is Wonder Woman from the recent movie?
Wow. Hey, is your mom there?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (lPsvG)

198 @162 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

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ScarJo wrapping her legs around your head? Or Famke Jannsen wrapping her legs around your chest?

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (Fp6vo)

Simultaneously?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (JgA4k)

199 I recently watched again the 200th Episode - that is one of the most hilarious episodes in any sci-fi series ever, and it is basically just one in-joke after another. At one point, they're talking about copying other popular shows, and they describe "Farscape" which both Ben Browder and Claudia Black had been in, and end that segment with "naah, nobody ever heard of that." (which was always the knock on Farscape, great show that nobody ever heard of)

And then the coup de grace was when they do Marionettes, and they walk through the Gate, and all their strings are cut...
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (V2Yro)

The O'Neill-Carter wedding, presided over by Asgard Supreme Commander Thor, was absolute fan service.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (MwFQu)

200 Another slow movie that is nonetheless good is Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (H5knJ)

201 LOL, in "mid90's" the skatebord punks are getting into it with a rent-a-cop for skating on school property.

Black Cop: F*ck you, n***a
Black punk: No, f*ck you, n***a. You need Jesus.
You're smoking on school property!
Black cop: The Bible is pro-cigarettes, n***a. Jesus smoked cigarettes.
Black punk: Oh yeah? What cigarettes did Jesus smoke?
Black cop: Jesus smoked Cools, n***a!


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (kQs4Y)

202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

203 The James Monroe Movie Thread !
Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (icuj/)

I hate to bust your bubble but Monroe had a farm in the South, so .............

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (DPjeO)

204 Ol Pete couldn't even stand up to a little pressure over an interview with Dave Rubin (he cancelled) and yet he thinks he can erase a courageous and brilliant man like Jefferson?? LOLGF
**Apologies for straying from movie discussion**
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:08 PM (W+vEI)


And then it turns out that James Comey was a communist when he was younger.

GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (b7IdW)

205 A girl named Lola. She runs.

Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand

Why she walks like a woman and pees like a man

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (icuj/)

206 @182 Gonna paint my wagon
Gonna paint it fine
Gonna use oil based paint
Cause the wood is pine.

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Never heard it.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:22 PM (Fp6vo)

207 202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

The audio in the barrel is horrendous

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:22 PM (DPjeO)

208 Yes he played those roles well but everything in HUD was depressing to
me. There was no laughter. No scenes to break up the drudgery. No one
got out without being screwed up.

I agree. That was the style of movie making then? B and W too. Love those movies from the 50's and early 60's.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (K22Va)

209 Dune, the Beatings Will Continue. Opening 2020.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (lPsvG)

210 207 202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

The audio in the barrel is horrendous
Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:22 PM (DPjeO)

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I agree. Genuine affection for Battlefield Earth is barrel worthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (zZbCU)

211 GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (b7IdW)


No.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (aS1PU)

212 There's a BIG ol' Full Moon out tonight .

Posted by: JT

... there's a bathroom on the right.

Posted by: Florida, man. at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (K1IUD)

213 >> Equalizer 2 > Equalizer

Really? I really liked the first Equalizer movie.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (W+vEI)

214 200 Another slow movie that is nonetheless good is Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (H5knJ)


TTSS was just the main character going around talking to people.

Also, in the role of George Smiley, Alec Guinness > Gary Oldman.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (b7IdW)

215 I've watched Cuckshed Anal literally hundreds of times. Some of the biggest cocks I've ever sucke...I mean, seen.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (FTPVM)

216 I hate to bust your bubble but Monroe had a farm in the South, so .............


eieio

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (icuj/)

217 Pacing is an interesting concept in movies (and literature but this isn't the book thread). It's not always allied with action. A film like The Philadelphia Story takes place in a day's time and nothing much happens. But the story is carried by sparkling dialog and the characters' reactions to the words. It does help that the dialog is delivered rapidly, something that Cary Grant did so well.

Oh yeah, it does help that the acting is superb and fun.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)

218 I agree. Genuine affection for Battlefield Earth is barrel worthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (zZbCU)

I didn't say I had affection for it only that I can think of a couple dozen movies I think are way worse. Starship Troopers is 10x as bad.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

219 214
Also, in the role of George Smiley, Alec Guinness > Gary Oldman.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (b7IdW)

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They were very different performances. Guinness was genial while Oldman was very reserved.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (zZbCU)

220 i look at the news and don't know what to do

so many sobs and no way to let them have it

I just read an article by Greenfield on Frontpage about how they're using children to get parents to believe in manmade climate change

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (xIKXj)

221 Equalizer 2 > Equalizer

Really? I really liked the first Equalizer movie.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (W+vEI)

Oh I liked the first one but I liked the second one better.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (2DOZq)

222 I have to admit didn't quite see Franka as my type in the Borne movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (BbGew)

223 I picked up the DVD Miller's Crossing at a yard sale this AM.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (icuj/)

224 Rebecca Ferguson, Karen Gillan and Gal Gadot walk into a bar . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:28 PM (smc0A)

225 I have to admit didn't quite see Franka as my type in the Borne movies.

Franka Sinatra ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:28 PM (icuj/)

226 Dude, Starship Troopers was awesome.

"You apes wanna live forever?"

And when Doogie Fagster says of the Brain bug, " They're afraid of us!"


Classic!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:29 PM (FTPVM)

227 204GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (b7IdW)


I'm old enough to remember when being a rat bastard commie was pretty much a disqualifier for national political office. Good times.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

228 Pacing is an interesting concept in movies (and
literature but this isn't the book thread). It's not always allied with
action. A film like The Philadelphia Story takes place in a day's time
and nothing much happens. But the story is carried by sparkling dialog
and the characters' reactions to the words. It does help that the dialog
is delivered rapidly, something that Cary Grant did so well.



Oh yeah, it does help that the acting is superb and fun.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)

Enchanted April, Remains of the Day, Howard's End. There are so many movies like this that I guess might get made as indies. They are not from any Hollywood "universe" and the action figure market is weak.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:30 PM (n13/j)

229 220 i look at the news and don't know what to do

so many sobs and no way to let them have it

I just read an article by Greenfield on Frontpage about how they're using children to get parents to believe in manmade climate change
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (xIKXj)


There Will Be Blood

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:30 PM (FTPVM)

230 I think I have Mayor Buttplug figured out.

He's been overly ambitious since HS, creating a record for a political career, and kept his gayness on the down low until 2015, into his second mayoral term. Then he met his husband on a gay dating app and came out.

He has no near-term political future to match his ambition. He's in the Midwest, and only has appeal to the Richest, Deep Blue places. So he's a huge negative as a VP nominee.

He wants to be Rachel Maddow. Big salary, big visibility, book deals. Possibilities down the road. If I were Chris Hayes, I'd be worried. MSNBC has found someone gayer than you.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 09:30 PM (1UZdv)

231 I picked up the DVD Miller's Crossing at a yard sale this AM.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (icuj/)

good choice.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (n13/j)

232 Anybody seen the movie Disorganized Crime ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (icuj/)

233 They are having a Mod Squad marathon on the Decades channel. Peggy Lipton was definitely a hottie.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (2DOZq)

234 How about a thread about movies where the sequel was better than the first?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (JgA4k)

235 "The Naked Prey" was fast paced but with little or no words.

They need to do a remake set in modern times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (Z+IKu)

236 Enchanted April, Remains of the Day, Howard's End. There are so many movies like this that I guess might get made as indies. They are not from any Hollywood "universe" and the action figure market is weak.
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Well, there was a "Remains of the Day" lunchbox.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (kQs4Y)

237 235 "The Naked Prey" was fast paced but with little or no words.

They need to do a remake set in modern times.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (Z+IKu)

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"How about in the Amazon?!"
-Mel Gibson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

238 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (FTPVM)

239 234 How about a thread about movies where the sequel was better than the first?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (JgA4k)

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I've gotta throw you people a bone, so sure. I'll do that next time.

Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (zZbCU)

240 Well, there was a "Remains of the Day" lunchbox.

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That would be great to carry leftovers in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (lPsvG)

241 238 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (FTPVM)
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"Jeremiah's Johnson".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

242 Remember when the Left used to rag on conservatives for thinking commies were everywhere? Yeah, about that...

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (BRgHt)

243 Bryan Ferry is touring the full Avalon album later this year, not as exciting as early Roxy, but still hyped to hear.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (PUmDY)

244 My Dinner With Andre was kind of slow moving.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:35 PM (JgA4k)

245 I'm sorry, TJM. I haven't seen "Andrei Rublev".

I have seen "Russian Ark", which proceeds at a slow, stately pace.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:35 PM (kQs4Y)

246 241 238 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (FTPVM)
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"Jeremiah's Johnson".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

"Suck it, Pilgrim!"

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (FTPVM)

247 Jeremiah's Johnson".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

Yeah Mountain Men was Charton Heston and Brian Keith . I liked it but critics did not.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

248 Was there a trapper keeper as well?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (PUmDY)

249 Godfather II >> Godfather I

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (1UZdv)

250 245 I'm sorry, TJM. I haven't seen "Andrei Rublev".

I have seen "Russian Ark", which proceeds at a slow, stately pace.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:35 PM (kQs4Y)

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Ah, the one shot experiment through the Russian Hermitage.

That movie's wonderful. I own it...it's around here somewhere...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (zZbCU)

251 "Jeremiah's Johnson".

LOL !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (icuj/)

252 that gay cowboy romance was a cultural persuasion piece for how great homosexuals are

they use the most attractive people because if they used people that looked like schist and nadless, no one would watch

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (xIKXj)

253 An oldie but goodie, Babette's Feast :p

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (FTPVM)

254 "Jeremiah's Johnson".

There is not a quicker wit on any site in the world, lol.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (K22Va)

255 A film like The Philadelphia Story takes place in a day's time and nothing much happens.
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Geez. Tom Hanks got AIDS and died the same day? No wonder it's such a sad movie.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (BRgHt)

256 Enchanted April, Remains of the Day, Howard's End.
There are so many movies like this that I guess might get made as
indies. They are not from any Hollywood "universe" and the action figure
market is weak.

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Well, there was a "Remains of the Day" lunchbox.





Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (kQs4Y)

The things you can learn here!

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (n13/j)

257 Empire Strikes Back

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (PUmDY)

258 Godfather > Everything Else including II

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:38 PM (BRgHt)

259 "The Naked Prey" was fast paced but with little or no words.

They need to do a remake set in modern times.

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Honkey In Detroit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (+y/Ru)

260 Mad Max II (Road Warrior)

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (1UZdv)

261 I watched Russian Ark. it was anti communism, too. The people who have lived through communism are anti-communism, but the idiots with the microphones are keeping that info on the down low.

they think they'll be more equal than the rest of us

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (xIKXj)

262 An oldie but goodie, Babette's Feast :p
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (FTPVM)


I saw it years ago and knew nothing about it. I loved it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (aS1PU)

263 253 An oldie but goodie, Babette's Feast :p

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (FTPVM)

agreed. I don't know if TJM has ever did a food movie thread but there are some really great ones. My fave is Big Night. There are a bunch of others including Babette's Feast and a lot of Asian ones.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (n13/j)

264 Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (FTPVM)

265 Ok, I put the decline of Star Wars beginning at Empire Strikes Back. That was when Jedi started to morph into godly superheroes instead of spiritual-type warrior monks.

Star Wars was more interesting when the Force was implied to be a belief system accessible to all. Made it easier to identify with Luke.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (IfYaq)

266 How any guy could hate you for trying to get him into Ingrid Bergman...

** slowly shakes head in disbelief **

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (A3w0Q)

267 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.

"Who - all comes to these here parties?"
"Just you and me."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (8ZmvG)

268 I don't turn this off soon the ONT will show up before I know it

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (BbGew)

269 That "Remains of the Day" lunchbox was a joke piece in "Waiting for Guffman". Corkey Sherwood also had a "My Dinner With Andre" lunchbox.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (kQs4Y)

270 Rebecca Ferguson, Karen Gillan and Gal Gadot walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:28 PM (smc0A)

Honestly Karen Gillan is so smokin hot in Jumanji, I'm sure it broke laws in four or five countries

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (BRgHt)

271 Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (FTPVM)

both were super decent imo.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (n13/j)

272 266 How any guy could hate you for trying to get him into Ingrid Bergman...

** slowly shakes head in disbelief **
Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (A3w0Q

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Tell that to Roberto Rossellini.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (zZbCU)

273 Ref Solaris.

Saw both versions, liked both versions.
Don't remember too much about the US one (except that I liked it)
the Russian is slow, moody and fascinating.

I wish they had done a movie
that was more like the book.

Posted by: ArthurK at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (EfDaM)

274 I was thinking it was a Kids in the Hall skit. I knew I had seen that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (PUmDY)

275 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

OK. Give me some bio. When did he live, when did he make movies? He was a Soviet who made 7 films? Why only 7? Were they successful?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (gO7fe)

276 273 Ref Solaris.

Saw both versions, liked both versions.
Don't remember too much about the US one (except that I liked it)
the Russian is slow, moody and fascinating.

I wish they had done a movie
that was more like the book.
Posted by: ArthurK at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (EfDaM)

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So did the book's author.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (zZbCU)

277 264
Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

I always thought it was based on Jeremiah "The Liver Eater" Johnson, a mountain man who ate the livers of enemies but never really showed in the movie.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (K22Va)

278 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

nor Disorganized Crime.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (icuj/)

279 275 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

OK. Give me some bio. When did he live, when did he make movies? He was a Soviet who made 7 films? Why only 7? Were they successful?
Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (gO7fe

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It was Andrei Tarkovsky's second movie about the Russian icon painter. Set in 15th century Russia, the Soviet Union tried to suppress it because it's really spiritual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (zZbCU)

280 Didn't he have a My Dinner with Andre play set?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (PUmDY)

281 GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???

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Used to be you could say that the only good Democrat was a dead Democrat but these days even the dead vote for radical candidates.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (+y/Ru)

282 277 You're probably right. I like to act like I know things

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (FTPVM)

283 I always thought it was based on Jeremiah "The Liver Eater" Johnson, a mountain man who ate the livers of enemies but never really showed in the movie.

Ya won't see that in the Food Thread either.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (icuj/)

284 >>Enchanted April

Love that movie!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (W+vEI)

285 202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme."

Battlefield Earth - who could have imagined that a scriptwriter would rip off "Yor, Hunter from the Future!" ????

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 09:46 PM (V2Yro)

286 284 Enchanted April



Love that movie!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (W+vEI)

I lost some street cred with that recco but oh well.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:47 PM (n13/j)

287 >>>They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.<<<

He can cut out their livers and stuff them In His Ass.

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2019 09:47 PM (LuPts)

288 277 Ha, turns out we're both right! Drink!!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:47 PM (FTPVM)

289 279
275 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.



Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone



OK. Give me some bio. When did he live, when did he make movies? He
was a Soviet who made 7 films? Why only 7? Were they successful?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (gO7fe



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It was Andrei Tarkovsky's second movie about the Russian icon
painter. Set in 15th century Russia, the Soviet Union tried to suppress
it because it's really spiritual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

When was it made? 2nd film, tried to suppress, and yet he still made 5 more?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (gO7fe)

290 Just saw a preview for Shaft.

Once again Hollywood demonstrates just how intellectually bankrupt they are. Yet another raid on the '60s and '79s.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (0tfLf)

291 282
277 You're probably right. I like to act like I know things

lol, the next round of beers is on me.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (K22Va)

292 Brokeback Johnson?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (IfYaq)

293
Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (zZbCU)

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I heard it couldn't hold a candle to Andrei Rublev II: Andrei Owns The Renaissance

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (4knXT)

294 There are no blue dog democrats anymore. If you vote dem, you are a Marxist. There is no middle ground.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (dNzKv)

295 James your description of Andrei Rublev makes me think it is a Communist movie or at least under Communism. Even the Russian version of War and Peace gets a Communist speach ending from Marshal Kutuzov

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (BbGew)

296 289
When was it made? 2nd film, tried to suppress, and yet he still made 5 more?
Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (gO7fe)

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Mid 60s. The Soviet Union could never quite control their artists, as far as I can tell.

Trailer is in the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (zZbCU)

297 Roberto Rosellini?

Never heard of him.

But that close up of her in Humphrey's office in Casablanca, my-my.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (A3w0Q)

298 I will try to check out Rubliev but as of now I don't have any streaming services.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:51 PM (n13/j)

299 Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (FTPVM)

I did not read it right but I did not know that even if I had. Thanks.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:51 PM (2DOZq)

300 People still watch DVDs? I had no idea

Posted by: Ree at May 18, 2019 09:51 PM (vVjnK)

301
47 "Once Upon a Time in America" was overly slow and long.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)


I cannot get behind this as being a "great" movie -- [tedium] ^ tedium

The better half and I watched the Coen Brothers' "The Hudsucker Proxy" last night. What a joy to encounter after so many years away. Its pace is spot on and the visual and audio aspects of the story are perfect. Paul Newman gets me every time with his wisecracking putdowns of Norbert (Tim Robbins).The back and forth dialog between Norbert and Waring Hudsucker (Charles Durning) is always amusing, too. The young kid who first encountered the hula hoop and immediately started doing tricks is a hoot.

Its main flaw, IMHO, is the pas de deux dance number set to an aria from Carmen. What was the point of having it in there at all?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (pNxlR)

302 Trailer is in the post.
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We're too lazy to even look at the pictures in the content!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (kQs4Y)

303 295 James your description of Andrei Rublev makes me think it is a Communist movie or at least under Communism. Even the Russian version of War and Peace gets a Communist speach ending from Marshal Kutuzov
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (BbGew

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It was made under the Soviet Union, but it's very very far from communist propaganda. It's really about the artist and his relationship to the world around him.

For communist propoganda, check out Soy Cuba, which is reviewed at the end of the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (zZbCU)

304 Hey JT.

Read about the purple gang today.
I guess it really was the jooos after all.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (A3w0Q)

305 297 Roberto Rosellini?

Never heard of him.

But that close up of her in Humphrey's office in Casablanca, my-my.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (A3w0Q

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He and Ingrid had a shocking affair in the 50s. They were both married to other people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:53 PM (zZbCU)

306 Trailer is in the post.

"Trailer for sale or rent......"

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:53 PM (icuj/)

307 Hey JT.

Read about the purple gang today.
I guess it really was the jooos after all.
Posted by: teej

Uh-oh.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (icuj/)

308 People still watch DVDs? I had no idea
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It's weird what ISN'T available on streaming at Netflix. And it seems like they're going more and more to exclusive content, so lots of films that were on streaming, ain't. Which is why I still get DVDs.

Like "Mid90's".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (kQs4Y)

309 I've heard that the Battlefield earth books are actually good. That movie. I can watch it, but it requires a lot of beer.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (H5knJ)

310 Nood ONT.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (IfYaq)

311 @300 Posted by: Ree

Is that you raimondo?
Silly me. Keep forgetting.
Average Joe

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (A3w0Q)

312 308 People still watch DVDs? I had no idea
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It's weird what ISN'T available on streaming at Netflix. And it seems like they're going more and more to exclusive content, so lots of films that were on streaming, ain't. Which is why I still get DVDs.

Like "Mid90's".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (kQs4Y)

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I've been thinking of a post about this and who streaming shouldn't be the future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (zZbCU)

313 Oh, and thanks for the feedback on the Russian version of Solaris. I'll check it out.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (H5knJ)

314 ONT is up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (kQs4Y)

315 Just a joke, JT.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (A3w0Q)

316 Waiting for Guffman to get off my lawn.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 18, 2019 09:58 PM (RuIsu)

317 Mid 60s. The Soviet Union could never quite control their artists, as far as I can tell.



Trailer is in the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone,

Watched the trailer. Not sure I was hooked. Soviet filmmakers in the '20's were incredible, but pretty much got snuffed out in the '30's. I'm not very familiar with post-war Soviet film. Haven't seen much at all, but what I've seen is - very strange to me. There are things I'm not getting.
So was this this guy's thing? Spiritual films?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (gO7fe)

318 *Que's up Run Lola Run again.*


Posted by: Just Got Here at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (MouFt)

319 There were 3 good star wars movies: 3.9 (rogue one), 4, 5

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (rnAwa)

320 *queues

Posted by: Just Got Here at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (MouFt)

321 Pacing can add or subtract from a movie but it's not a quality that makes or breaks a film. Most pieces of shit seem to be well paced and you never think about it.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (jNdqc)

322 Equalizer 2 > Equalizer



Are you mad??

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (yQpMk)

323 Opening this weekend; John Wick: Chapter 3 - A Dog's Journey. A heart-warming movie that shows a dog lovingly follow his master, as his master frenetically guns down hundreds of hired assassins. Its the feel-good action movie of the summer!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (Lhaco)

324 I saw Andrei Rublev at the University of Colorado at Boulder in the early 1980s, introduced by Stan Brakhage. It was a big deal as I recall, maybe the film had not been shown in several years or it might have been a longer or restored version. ? Don't really remember.

I do remember the film though. Long, slow, quite beautiful and evocative but slow. Lots of snow. But then the end - I will never forget that. The paintings, in color. One of the greatest film moments of all time. Thank you for reminding me of it.

Highly recommended to those who have never seen it.

Posted by: Artemis at May 19, 2019 04:50 AM (EMx6k)

325 Late to the party (as usual) but I have Tarkovsky's "The Mirror" - bizarre, to say the least. The Soviets had a problem with their artists - they wanted their artists to behave but there wasn't much they could do at the risk of PR (and trust me, they wanted good PR, especially on the international front). Take Eisenstein. Stalin was unhappy with how Ivan the Terrible Part 2 turned out and stopped Part 3 at about the 100-foot of film point. Stalin could have had Eisenstein shot, of course, but he didn't, and one of the biggest reasons why was the international outcry such a move would have triggered. (Eisenstein was already stressed out over just such a fate and eventually died of a heart attack.)

As for Mr. Buttygig: one of the best things that ever happened to the Navy was the day he resigned his commission. Isn't it interesting that he swore to support and defend a document for which he has nothing but passionate hatred and contempt?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 06:09 AM (Xk5BK)

Saturday Afternoon Chess Thread 05-18-2019

unknown 03.jpg1961 U.S. Women's Champion Lisa Lane


As always, the chess/dress pr0n thread is an open thread, so there is no such thing as an off-topic comment.

And TheJamesMadison's movie thread will be up later this evening.


Easier Problem - White To Play (980)

Goal: White can force a mate in 3
Hint: eliminate the back-rank defender - at the appropriate time.


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Chess On Display

On the way home from the PNW MoMe in Yakima last week, Mrs. Muse and I spent a few hours touring the Maryhill Museum of Art, which she has been wanting to do for a while. One of the main attractions of this museum is its collection of chess sets, which is on permanent display. Below are some photos we took with Mrs. Muse's phone. The lighting wasn't all that great and the shadows are annoying and hard to avoid, but we did the best we could:


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More Challenging Problem - White To Play (966)

This is a very fun position to work through. I've heard that Garry Kasparov uses it in the chess Masterclass that he teaches (h/t David Llada).

Goal: White wins by either a quick mate or by forcing a KBN vs. K endgame
Hint: knights are very tricksy


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Dress Pr0n For The 'Ettes:





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(click for bigger mad men)




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20190518 dress pr0n kate.jpg




20190518 dress pr0n latvia.jpg
Greetings from Latvia




20190518 dress pr0n melania.jpg


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Solutions Update

Easier Problem - To Play


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1.Qg6+ Qg7

Or 1...Kh8 2.Rxf8#

2.Rxf8+ Kxf8

This sacrfice eliminates the back rank defender. And now:

3.Qe8#


More Challenging Problem - White To Play


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Before I worked through this problem, I thought that two knights can checkmate is if the king is in a corner, and even then, the position can't be forced. But with the bishops still on the board, the strategic situation is completely different.

Looking at the position, I saw that if I could get the White bishop to the d8-h4 diagonal, it would be mate. Of course, this is not possible, for Black could just move his bishop along the b7-h2 diagonal and block me wherever I went. And I can't just take the Black bishop because stalemate.

So I started looking at knight moves, which is how I found:

1.Ng3!

Because I saw that if 1...Bxc5 then 2.Nf5#. Also, if 1...Bxg3 then 2.Be7#. And 1...Bc7 results in 2.Nf5#. I was surprised to see these checkmates by two knights against a king that has not been driven into a corner square. I didn't think that was possible.

So the only move that Black really has is

1...Kxg3

And this allows White to close out the game with a knight fork:

2.Ne4+ Kf3
3.Nxd6 and with correct play, White will eventually win.


Hope to see you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and paste it into your chess app.

___________

So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:19 PM




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Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:20 PM (vWMNq)

2 That's some braid there.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:20 PM (lwiT4)

3 Top ten!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 05:20 PM (q1Pj5)

4 Slick, she's so sthmart.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (ZS+GP)

5 whoa!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (sy5kK)

6 i love embroidery, but that one needs a v or sweetheart neckline.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (DGS6j)

7 Middle gal in the Mad Men pic is a Scientologist.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (KpItb)

8 darn, I was going to be first, until I stopped and stared at this week's Melania pic.

ok, I can live with that.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (sy5kK)

9 Sorry to bust in the chess/dress thread so early but I have an emergency prayer request. The very dear but very elderly organist for our church just called me to say that she just called the ambulance; She thinks that she's having a heart attack. Her name is Jessie. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ahS0B)

10 That lavender dress would be beautiful even if I couldn't see through it.

Posted by: I Bought these glasses see at May 18, 2019 05:23 PM (ZS+GP)

11 Oh dear, Fen. I hope she'll be okay.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (lwiT4)

12 Kate's dress seems a little ... I don't know. Matronly? Something.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (lwiT4)

13 Easier Problem

1. Qg6+ Qg7 (Kh8 2. Rxf8#)
2. Rxf8+ Kxf8
3. Qe8#

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:25 PM (vWMNq)

14 Problem 2:

Bd4 black bishop moves somewhere
Be5

and white has two bishop moves to mate. Black can't defend and can't move king or threaten anything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2019 05:25 PM (vq6T3)

15 Crossing streams. There's a kewl minimalist chess set in John Wick 3.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 05:25 PM (1UZdv)

16 12 Kate's dress seems a little ... I don't know. Matronly? Something.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (lwiT4)


You mean like a "mother-of-the-bride" wedding dress?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:26 PM (b7IdW)

17 You mean like a "mother-of-the-bride" wedding dress?


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:26 PM (b7IdW)



Yes! That's it exactly.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:27 PM (lwiT4)

18 BTW,

After Bd4, white has mate with Bf6 so black had to use his bishop to defend against this, thus the Be5 move.

Just wanted to add that for clarity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2019 05:27 PM (vq6T3)

19 Fen, prayers up for your friend Jessie!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 18, 2019 05:28 PM (f8dwL)

20 14 Problem 2:

Bd4 black bishop moves somewhere
Be5
and white has two bishop moves to mate.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2019 05:25 PM (vq6T3)


He does? Show me, please. I don't see it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:28 PM (b7IdW)

21 Willowed on the pet thread but Dogs Playing Chess would be another iconic painting.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:29 PM (2DOZq)

22 Top pic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Lane

https://www.oldlifemagazines.com/sports-illustrated-
august-7-1961-us-chess-champion-lisa-lane.html

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 18, 2019 05:29 PM (3tlgA)

23 That museum looks interesting, OM. Can't decide which I like best, but I'm leaning toward the silver and gold set.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (gC2IV)

24
And to think people here were debating yesterday about whether Christina Hendricks is curvy or not.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (TAmPV)

25 game thread!

Jim Sterling 's takedown of the Alien Colon Commando , Randy Pitchford, is a sight to see. Pitchford is most definitely considered harmful.

there's a controversy about Epic Games, how they have their own platform which - unlike Steam - they bother to maintain. perhaps banhappily .

actually two controversies: The Outer Wilds was crowdfunded, but those devs turned around and sold it through Epic. thought is that they hadn't told their backers that. unsure that a refund policy is going to cover it. since that means the backers gave then an interest free loan. yay lawyers.

on the brighter side, A Plague Tale is looking good.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (WLYUH)

26 Kate's dress seems a little ... I don't know. Matronly? Something.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM

*****

I was thinking prom chaperone looking.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (0tfLf)

27 He does? Show me, please. I don't see it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:28 PM (b7IdW)


After Be5 white has mates at:

Bf6 or Bg3

... aaaah but black's move is Be5 ...

back to work to get away from black's bishop ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2019 05:31 PM (vq6T3)

28 It's seems so long ago that the women's tennis pro circuit was sponsored by Virginia Slims. Those under 29 wouldn't believe you if you told them .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:31 PM (2DOZq)

29 whether Christina Hendricks is curvy or not

Seriously? Her curves have curves.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 05:32 PM (H5knJ)

30 Bride wearing face painting or sparkles? I don't like it although she is cute (Quite some hair there!) and the dress is nice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 05:32 PM (ahS0B)

31 Kate's dress seems a little ... I don't know. Matronly? Something.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM



*****



I was thinking prom chaperone looking.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (0tfLf)

I was thinking, "Let her eat a hamburger!"

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:32 PM (KpItb)

32 whether Christina Hendricks is curvy or not

Seriously? Her curves have curves.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 05:32 PM (H5knJ)

That's what I was thinking. She was a little chunky in the movie Drive.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (2DOZq)

33 How can you solve the first problem if you don't know whose move it is?

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (A3w0Q)

34 Rapunzel!

Rapunzel!

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (S4lAP)

35 It's
seems so long ago that the women's tennis pro circuit was sponsored by
Virginia Slims. Those under 29 wouldn't believe you if you told them.




Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:31 PM (2DOZq)

Or tell them plastic bags became the replacement for paper bags at the grocery store because plastic bags were considered to be better for the environment.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:34 PM (KpItb)

36 That girl's hair must drape on the floor, if she's got it braided like that and it still hits her knee.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 05:34 PM (lwiT4)

37 Word is that Christina packs Triple Ds on an otherwise small frame.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 05:35 PM (1UZdv)

38 More difficult problem. Since mate with two knights is not possible, white must force black to exchange his bishop for a knight.

1. Nhg3

A) ... Bxc5 2. Nf5#
B) ... Bxg4 2. Be7#
C) ... Kxg3 2. Ne4+ K any 3. Nxd6 winning.

Unless there is also a mate in line C ... nope.



Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:37 PM (vWMNq)

39 33 How can you solve the first problem if you don't know whose move it is?
Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (A3w0Q)


Actually, you should be able to deduce that from the FEN string, but a fair point. I accidentally left whose move it is out of the title line, but it's now fixed. It's White to move.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:37 PM (b7IdW)

40 Middle gal in the Mad Men pic is a Scientologist.


No way! Peggy?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:38 PM (fuK7c)

41 Now to read the content ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:38 PM (vWMNq)

42 I never thought of being smothered by breast as a way to check out, but seeing Christina again, it's now on my list.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 05:38 PM (1UZdv)

43 38
More difficult problem.


I forgot to note that White cannot take the Bishop because stalemate.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:40 PM (vWMNq)

44 Being a Scientologist in Hollywood is a career choice.

Like signing with CAA.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 05:40 PM (1UZdv)

45 Off to burn things on the BBQ ... back later to check solutions.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:41 PM (vWMNq)

46 Unless there is also a mate in line C ... nope.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:37 PM (vWMNq)


But since you've got it down to KBN vs. K, you can declare victory and give yourself a high-five.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:41 PM (b7IdW)

47 Middle gal in the Mad Men pic is a Scientologist.





No way! Peggy?


Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:38 PM (fuK7c)

Yes, Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:41 PM (KpItb)

48 Game Thread:

So No Man's Sky is going VR. I think this is their swan song for the strangest saga of a game ever released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1tKNonnJeg

Posted by: Max Power at May 18, 2019 05:42 PM (q177U)

49 Thanks OM.
Didn't look at the hieroglyphics.
Rarely do.
I can mostly follow em,,, mostly, but I just tend to look at problems and see if I can solve them.

I never do if I can't find a string of forcing moves leading to mate.
No way to tell how opponent will react.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 05:42 PM (A3w0Q)

50 Problem 2:

Ng3

1) ... BxN
Bf7#

2)... BxB
Nf5#

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2019 05:43 PM (vq6T3)

51 Yes, Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:41 PM (KpItb)


Heh. Now I wonder how much money she's given to her "church"?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:43 PM (b7IdW)

52 46 But since you've got it down to KBN vs. K, you can declare victory and give yourself a high-five.


I think I did. I also think that without the "Kasparov" hint, I would have found the problem much more difficult.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 05:43 PM (vWMNq)

53 The English language is so.......unique.

Half way Watching / listening to tennis college championship when the announcer said ' he was injured in the fall'.

I looked up for a second thinking someone fell but immediately realized he meant ' he was injured in the Fall'

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:43 PM (2DOZq)

54 Republican Amash sides with left against Trump and Barr.

Posted by: WUT at May 18, 2019 05:44 PM (MAstk)

55 She thinks that she's having a heart attack. Her name is Jessie.

Good luck Jessie.

You know how you're not having a heart attack at the ER. They stop paying attention to you.

Posted by: DaveA at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (FhXTo)

56 Yes, Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist.
Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:41 PM (KpItb)

___

And a rabid hater of OrangeManBad.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (Edjcx)

57 I sensed Christina Hendricks. I had to come.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (ycWCI)

58 Just got back from "John Wick 3". Thumbs up from me. Definitely leaves room for a 4th.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (/Njku)

59 Heh. Now I wonder how much money she's given to her "church"?



Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:43 PM (b7IdW)

A lot. Leah Remini's A and E series on Scientology is pretty eye-opening in that respect.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (KpItb)

60 I don't care about Elizabeth Moss' religion or politics. She was awesome as Peggy and Mad Men was the best TV show ever.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:46 PM (fuK7c)

61 Chess Thread Yahoo!

Well, I'm off to Latvia.......gotta see what size that dress is. How much is 14 dollars in Euros?......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 05:47 PM (Z+IKu)

62
Mad Men despoiled the 60's for me.

Never watched an episode, but I know enough about the tv show that it ruined every good thing about the 60's.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 05:47 PM (jK3b3)

63 Scientology and Louis Farrakhan Nation of Islam are or at least were, connected to the hip. Scientology made the first move.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:47 PM (2DOZq)

64 I don't care about Elizabeth Moss' religion or politics. She was awesome as Peggy and Mad Men was the best TV show ever.




Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:46 PM (fuK7c)

I've never seen a minute of Mad Men.
But the Bruins won, right?

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:48 PM (KpItb)

65 Just got back from "John Wick 3". Thumbs up from me. Definitely leaves room for a 4th.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (/Njku)


Recommendations are all relative. What did you think of John Wick 2?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:49 PM (2DOZq)

66 Problem 2 is almost a stalemate. If white moves bishop, *+*-+-black moves bishoip next to white, offering stalemate.

1. N-g6 is the winner. if BxN
2. B-e7 mate.

If 1...KxN,
2. N-e5+ followed by NxB

If 1. BxB
2. N-f5 mate.
***
If 1.....BxB
2.

Posted by: Alan D. McIntire at May 18, 2019 05:49 PM (Qsbec)

67 https://www.oldlifemagazines.com/sports-illustrated-
august-7-1961-us-chess-champion-lisa-lane.html

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 18, 2019 05:29 PM (3tlgA)


Good eye.

Posted by: I Bought these glasses see at May 18, 2019 05:49 PM (ZS+GP)

68 Mad Men was often great, but got stretched in its later seasons.

The Wheel in Season 1 and The Suitcase in Season 4 are outstanding, and can be watched as stand-alones.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 05:50 PM (1UZdv)

69 A lot. Leah Remini's A and E series on Scientology is pretty eye-opening in that respect.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (KpItb)


Mrs. Muse and I have watched every episode of that series. Egads, what a disgusting cult.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 05:50 PM (b7IdW)

70 But the Bruins won, right?


Yes. Legit chance for three major world champions in Boston at the same time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:51 PM (fuK7c)

71 Leah Remini's A and E series on Scientology is pretty eye-opening in that respect.
Posted by: Vendette

There's a documentary on HBO called Going Clear that is awesome. It made Hollywood types jump when it came out. But yes, Leah's series is must watch TV also.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 18, 2019 05:51 PM (+Tibp)

72 Recommendations are all relative. What did you think of John Wick 2?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:49 PM (2DOZq)


----

2 wasn't nearly as entertaining as 1, but I did enjoy it.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 18, 2019 05:51 PM (/Njku)

73

btw, notice how there hasn't been any new "evidence" for global warming in, like, years, other than fake scientists declaring every single year the "hottest on record since..."?

Anyone wanna bet 2019 will be the hottest year on record?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 05:52 PM (jK3b3)

74 John Wick 3 is balletic action with great visuals. Little plot, except to set-up John Wick 4.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 05:52 PM (1UZdv)

75 Yes. Legit chance for three major world champions in Boston at the same time.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:51 PM (fuK7c)

I knew you guys really refuse to share the Patriots with the rest of New England.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:52 PM (2DOZq)

76 Okay,

Qg6 appears to force Kh8 or Qg7

If queen then trade.
Rxf8 trading rooks.
White should be in good enough position to win it by either starting checking with knight or bringing other knight up.

Best get my board out.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 05:53 PM (A3w0Q)

77 That would be neat to see the chess sets.
Almost got sucked into Last of the Mohicans for the 345th time but fought it off.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 05:53 PM (BbGew)

78 Those 60's Mad Men, were the fathers of hippies.

Posted by: I Bought these glasses see at May 18, 2019 05:54 PM (ZS+GP)

79 Never saw Mad Men but The Apartment is how I remember the 60's as a kid.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:55 PM (2DOZq)

80
Twenty years ago we said global warming was a hoax.
Shouldn't have the "scientists" been able to really, really, strengthen their case with evidence in the last 20 years and be able today to say they told us so?

Twenty years is a long time, kinda. Shit they said was gonna happen was supposed to be happening. Well?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 05:56 PM (jK3b3)

81 80 ...Twenty years is a long time, kinda. Shit they said was gonna happen was supposed to be happening. Well?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 05:56 PM (jK3b3)


It's come and gone.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 05:58 PM (ZS+GP)

82 Thank you!!!


Hollywood has always been a reliable source of contributions to Democratic Party politicians and organizations, but perhaps never so more than the 2018 election cycle.

Of the more than $4 million in federal donations made by the top Hollywood executives and entertainers, 99.7 percent went to Democrats and Democratic-leaning political action committees or organizations, according to a Hollywood Reporter data review of Federal Election Commission records.

Posted by: Pelosi at May 18, 2019 05:58 PM (MAstk)

83
Do Nellie and Bruce Ohr remind anyone else of the Rosenbergs?

Julius and Ethel, anyone?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 05:59 PM (jK3b3)

84 Pelosi, you were hot when you were younger.
It's time to go home..

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:00 PM (ZS+GP)

85 @25 actually two controversies: The Outer Wilds was crowdfunded, but those devs turned around and sold it through Epic. thought is that they hadn't told their backers that. unsure that a refund policy is going to cover it. since that means the backers gave then an interest free loan. yay lawyers.

------------------------

Epic's actions are not creating many fans. Their "exclusivity" deals (Epic pays the publisher of a major game, and in return the game is only available on Epic for one year) are causing lots of annoyance among players. Even worse, you have situations like the Vampire: Bloodlines sequel that went up for pre-sale on Steam... only to get pulled down when it switched to an Epic-exclusive at launch title.

I understand that Epic needs users. And since people are generally satisfied with Steam, they're not inclined to switch over to the Epic portal without some sort of inducements. But these sorts of shenanigans are just ticking players off.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:01 PM (Fp6vo)

86 i recently overheard my ma tell a story where she and my pop were at a big time party (he was a deputy d.a.) and when everyone started smoking pot they left.

knowing my pop, it made me smile.

these were mad men days.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 18, 2019 06:01 PM (DGS6j)

87 The stupid adage that the more you fight and kill terrorists the more you create actually appears accurate for Hollywood.

We just created more Communists.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 06:02 PM (2DOZq)

88 Looking for "You and I" by Roberta Flack and Donnie Hathaway and it's as if it does not exist.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:05 PM (ZS+GP)

89 84 Pelosi, you were hot when you were younger.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:00 PM (ZS+GP)


She was?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 06:06 PM (b7IdW)

90 The oceans are rising!

They are. It's the continued aftermath of the end of the Ice Age. Over 400 feet of rise so far. A continuing rise but at a slowing rate. That's certainly the long-term trend. And it's relatively trivial on the trend line.

But if you squint at some data sets for the last century, and extrapolate from variance ... We're all going to drown!

Alarmists also point to natural subsidence, exacerbated by ocean front land development, as evidence that the oceans are rising, when it's actually the land that's falling.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:08 PM (1UZdv)

91 I understand that Epic needs users. And since people are generally satisfied with Steam, they're not inclined to switch over to the Epic portal without some sort of inducements. But these sorts of shenanigans are just ticking players off.
Posted by: junior


Epic will become a IP and PID thieving operation in less than 4 years. That money from the PRC is danegeld that comes at a cost the management refuses to acknowledge.

They and their customers are about to get raped Mongol style. Piss on all of them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2019 06:08 PM (cXV7n)

92 88 Looking for "You and I" by Roberta Flack and Donnie Hathaway and it's as if it does not exist.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:05 PM (ZS+GP)

https://tinyurl.com/yyfah7wn

Not sure it is the one you want, but it came up when I searched for Roberta Flack and You and I. Also the Lyrics go You and I, Back together again.

Sounds very... 70s.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 18, 2019 06:10 PM (ycWCI)

93 Interesting...

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints generally stays out of politics. There have been exceptions (Prop 8 here in California comes to mind), but that's not the rule.

So it's of interest when one of those exceptions occurs.

The LDS Church has released a statement that emphatically comes out against the "Equality Act" that the House of Representatives is considering right now. The reason is pretty straightforward - it removes various religious freedoms that are currently enshrined in Federal Law.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:10 PM (Fp6vo)

94 Nancy had great tits. Which is how she came to fuck JFK in a White House closet.

https://tinyurl.com/y4k5689l

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:11 PM (1UZdv)

95 >> Pelosi, you were hot when you were younger.
It's time to go home..
Posted by: Braenyard

She will be hot when she is older too.

Posted by: Satan at May 18, 2019 06:11 PM (2cuLk)

96 Mad Men was terrific the first couple of seasons then got to be just OK. Still overall a good run.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 06:11 PM (Edjcx)

97 I sensed Christina Hendricks. I had to come.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 18, 2019 05:45 PM (ycWCI)

TMI!!!

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 18, 2019 06:12 PM (pdjM8)

98 78 Those 60's Mad Men, were the fathers of hippies.

Posted by: I Bought these glasses see at May 18, 2019 05:54 PM (ZS+GP)

___

Other than Roger, they were all too young to have been hippie parents. Don's daughter was 14 or 15 in 1970 when the show ended. And by then the hippie movement had kinda faded didn't it?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM (Edjcx)

99 I think Nancy Pelosi was attractive when younger:

https://tinyurl.com/y6cchdtg

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM (ahS0B)

100 @87 The stupid adage that the more you fight and kill terrorists the more you create actually appears accurate for Hollywood.

We just created more Communists.

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Hollywood has lots of lefties because the people in power in Hollywood are lefties. If you want to get ahead, it helps if you espouse and support opinions similar to the people who can give you a job. If key people at the various studios were conservative instead of progressive, we'd likely see a trend among Hollywood-types to support conservative viewpoints in public.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM (Fp6vo)

101 That Equality Act is a terrible thing. I hope that it gets voted down in the Senate. The LDS are correct about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:16 PM (ahS0B)

102 The old-style plane print for the dress is very nice fabric, but they call it a "bomber airplane print". Has anyone pedantically pointed out to the "History Club" that there is no way those single engine prop jobs they've got there would be called "bombers"??? Ok the fact that they're all about to run into each other, I'll just let that go.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:16 PM (V2Yro)

103 >>Nancy had great tits. Which is how she came to fuck JFK in a White House closet.


He knocked her teeth out on the doorknob.

Yep - you guessed it. Surprise anal.

Those Kennedy boys. Such cads.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 06:17 PM (S4lAP)

104 He made it up to her by letting her have Woodrow Wilson's old Dentures.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 06:18 PM (S4lAP)

105 Hollywood has lots of lefties because the people in power in Hollywood are lefties. If you want to get ahead, it helps if you espouse and support opinions similar to the people who can give you a job. If key people at the various studios were conservative instead of progressive, we'd likely see a trend among Hollywood-types to support conservative viewpoints in public.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM (Fp6vo)

____

It's also that people involved with the arts (and yeah I know, movies aren't all that "artsy" per se, but still) are lefties. Musicians, actors, painters, etc.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 06:18 PM (Edjcx)

106 I finally got the yard done. I got a late start today because I was in denial about it. I finally reasoned that it's going to get really hot tomorrow and I would feel even less like doing it then.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 06:18 PM (sdi6R)

107 That Equality Act is a terrible thing. I hope that it gets voted down in the Senate. The LDS are correct about it.



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:16 PM (ahS0B)

Not a chance it gets through the Senate.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 06:18 PM (KpItb)

108 Some of those chess sets make me wish I knew woodturning. The craftmanship in those sets is wonderful.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 06:19 PM (bmdz3)

109 Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM (Fp6vo)

Of course I was talking about our fight / investigation to reveal the Communists in Hollywood during the 50's . That said, acting is pursued by more liberal leaning people than not so it's always been natural that Hollywood would lean Left and always will. It's just that 99% is an alarming number.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 06:19 PM (2DOZq)

110 No; I don't think Nancy Pelosi had an affair with JFK. Her father was involved with SF politics. She probably got invited to some soiree at the WH because of that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:19 PM (ahS0B)

111 So apparently Arnold Schwarzenneger was in South Africa at "Arnold Center", working with thousands of would-be athlete participants. And while he was talking with fans (who all had their smart phones out), out of the blue someone jump-kicked him in the back.

In the video (because of course there's video), he takes a few steps forward, and then turns around to see what just hit him. He stays upright the whole time. His assailant bounces off of him.

That would be impressive for a guy *half* Schwarzenneger's age.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:20 PM (Fp6vo)

112 No; I don't think Nancy Pelosi had an affair with JFK.



It is well documented that JFK gave her surprise anal. I read it in an HQ comment.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 06:21 PM (fuK7c)

113 @107 Not a chance it gets through the Senate.

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Though I'm sure everyone here will be keeping a close eye on which way Romney votes on it...

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (Fp6vo)

114 Oooh, OM, isn't Maryhill where the French couture manikins are housed?

https://tinyurl.com/y6lgcw99

Theatre de la Mode was one of the most amazing exhibitions I ever saw. The complete collection went on tour and I saw it in Honolulu, compete with Jean Cocteau backdrops.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (kQs4Y)

115 Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 06:17 PM (S4lAP)

I heard it wasn't so much the anal as it was the double penetration.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (2DOZq)

116

Mark Di Stefano
@MarkDiStef
NEW: In email to staff, The Guardian says it's changing the style guide when reporting on climate change...

- "Climate emergency, crisis" instead of "climate change"

- "Global heating" instead of "global warming"

- "Climate science denier" instead of "climate sceptic"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (aKsyK)

117 OMG! OMG!!!

Newsweek
@Newsweek
Man-eating tigers could hunt down more humans due to climate change

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (+y/Ru)

118 @107 Not a chance it gets through the Senate.

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Though I'm sure everyone here will be keeping a close eye on which way Romney votes on it...


Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (Fp6vo)

I doubt it'll even come up for a vote.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 18, 2019 06:23 PM (pdjM8)

119 That would be impressive for a guy *half* Schwarzenneger's age.


I saw that. He said it just felt like being jostled in a crowd and he didn't know he'd been jumped until he saw the video.

And then "at least it didn't interrupt my" snapchat/facetime/whatever he was streaming.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 06:23 PM (fuK7c)

120 Who is playing chess in the top picture?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:23 PM (ahS0B)

121 In the video (because of course there's video), he takes a few steps forward, and then turns around to see what just hit him. He stays upright the whole time. His assailant bounces off of him.

That would be impressive for a guy *half* Schwarzenneger's age.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:20 PM (Fp6vo)

I saw that clip, pretty amusing. I instantly thought that was some punk who was raised on video games and action movies where you make the big mighty move and your target is devastated, or something. People like that have no idea that things like body mass and basic raw strength count for more than all the fancy combination moves they can come up with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:24 PM (V2Yro)

122 I couldn't casre less about Sloppy Choppers looks now or ever, her insides are frightening.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 06:24 PM (BbGew)

123 Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:05 PM (ZS+GP)
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https://tinyurl.com/yyfah7wn

Not sure it is the one you want, but it came up when I searched for Roberta Flack and You and I. Also the Lyrics go You and I, Back together again.

Sounds very... 70s.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 18, 2019 06:10 PM (ycWCI)
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Yeah, it did that to me also.
Tube comes up with different songs when "you and I" is punched in. I know little Stevie Wonder did it but my faded mind hears the duo. From the album titled "Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway"

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:24 PM (ZS+GP)

124 No;
I don't think Nancy Pelosi had an affair with JFK. Her father was
involved with SF politics. She probably got invited to some soiree at
the WH because of that.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:19 PM (ahS0B)

Her dad was also the mayor of Baltimore.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 06:24 PM (KpItb)

125 It was published in 1972.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:25 PM (ZS+GP)

126 @102 Has anyone pedantically pointed out to the "History Club" that there is no way those single engine prop jobs they've got there would be called "bombers"???

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Sure, they could be. There were plenty of single-engine bombers during the prop-plane age. Carrier-based bombers, for instance, were all single-engine. Now admittedly, that's not what *I* would call it. I would prefer saving that name for something with two or four engines. But their appearance doesn't rule them out as bombers.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:25 PM (Fp6vo)

127 I guess I'm incorrect. Her father was from Baltimore.
Maybe she didn't get to SF until she got older.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:26 PM (ahS0B)

128 Well, on the topic of Climate Emergency, the tornado warnings just flashed over here. We've been waiting for rain all day, that big storm front that's moving across the country is just about here. Close enough that I can hear all the thunder from it, and see a lot of flashes on the horizon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (V2Yro)

129
I think Nancy Pelosi was attractive when younger:

https://tinyurl.com/y6cchdtg
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Yes indeedy. This is another nice pic from that slide show.

https://tinyurl.com/y2sg77xd

I spose most everyone looked better when they were younger.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (13CQC)

130 Man-eating tigers could hunt down more humans due to climate change.

Are we allowed to send anyone over for their dining pleasure? J/K

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (ahS0B)

131 - "Climate emergency, crisis" instead of "climate change"


- "Global heating" instead of "global warming"


- "Climate science denier" instead of "climate sceptic"



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (aKsyK)

I suppose it could be worse:as in:
climate existential threat, orAnthropecene extinction event, ortechnologic genocide event, orAnthropogenic biosphere sterilization enabler.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (KTmSx)

132 I think Nancy Pelosi was attractive when younger:

-
Are you trying to turn me gay?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (+y/Ru)

133 Jeepers, I was reading about Hunter Biden leaving his crack pipe in a rental car in Arizona, in addition to the aforementioned pipe he left a couple of IDs, a Delaware Attorney General's badge and some secret service business cards. This was in 2016. Do you think if Donald Jr. or Eric Trump had done that it might be in the news?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (f8dwL)

134 darnit pixy!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (KTmSx)

135 Stukas are dive bombers. Dauntlesses are torpedo bombers. Lots of one and two seat single-engine planes were designed to drop one or two bombs and not to dogfight.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 06:28 PM (fuK7c)

136 climate
existential threat, or
Anthropecene extinction event, or
technologic
genocide event, or
Anthropogenic biosphere sterilization enabler.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 06:28 PM (KTmSx)

137 I was very surprised when Robert Mueller wrapped his little investigation up and issued his report. I thought he'd beat that drum and harass Trump & his associates as long as humanly possible.

Now, I'm starting to believe that Mueller wrapped it up because of John Durham. After all, it was Durham who brought down the corrupt FBI office in Boston which had knowingly sent innocent men to prison for 25 years for murders they hadn't committed.

Durham is said to have been working on this case for quite a few weeks now. He's already assembled at least one grand jury. The right questions are being asked. People in "The Resistance" are beginning to turn on each other. Now, no one wants to be associated with the Steele Dossier.

Is this why Robert Mueller shut it down? Are there pee stains in Robert Mueller's shorts? I think so.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 18, 2019 06:28 PM (VDbGO)

138 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:27 PM (13CQC)

Yes, I'm sure we all did. That was just a response to someone saying that she was "hot". I am probably not the best person to judge which women are hot. I just thought she was attractive..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:28 PM (ahS0B)

139 As predicted, Biden wakes up as the plurality front runner in a majority Commie/Aggrieved party.

Today, Biden did a big event where he made himself the nice guy alternative to Trump's craziness. He said he won't attack the other D candidates.

But they're going to attack him! Several are on tomorrow's Sunday programs, and they will.

Biden is doddering. I can see him walking off a debate stage, looking to find his car keys.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:29 PM (1UZdv)

140 Her dad was also the mayor of Baltimore.

-
And look how well that's worked out for them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 06:29 PM (+y/Ru)

141 Climate Beleivers say climate change will remove oxygen from the water and make octopi blind.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 18, 2019 06:30 PM (cxvn3)

142 Her father was involved with SF politics. She probably got invited to some soiree at the WH because of that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:19 PM (ahS0B)

Nope. He was a Baltimore crook.

And the rumor is that Pelosi banged JFK...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2019 06:30 PM (wYseH)

143 And... now the sirens are going. Well, that's always a little bit jarring.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:31 PM (V2Yro)

144 A Dauntless is a dive bomber like the Ju87.

The Devestator was a torpedo bomber.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 18, 2019 06:32 PM (cxvn3)

145 143 And... now the sirens are going. Well, that's always a little bit jarring.
----
Did the cops see you?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 06:32 PM (kQs4Y)

146 Theatre de la Mode was one of the most amazing exhibitions I ever saw. The complete collection went on tour and I saw it in Honolulu, compete with Jean Cocteau backdrops.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (kQs4Y)


Yes! We got some pictures of those little fashion dolls, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 06:34 PM (b7IdW)

147
Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda are in a bed together.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 06:34 PM (jK3b3)

148 Could we just get Mayor Pete knocked out?. No, Mayor Pete, Christianity does not have extremists the way Islam does.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:34 PM (ahS0B)

149 @137 Now, I'm starting to believe that Mueller wrapped it up because of John Durham.

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There's also some speculation that Barr's appointment was (among other things) aimed at Mueller. There's a brief that Barr wrote around the time of the Kavanaugh hearing that drew puzzled looks at the time, but that apparently makes a lot more sense after the release of the Mueller's comments about Obstruction of Justice om the Report. There was an article about it that got linked here (in comments, iirc) a week or two ago.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:34 PM (Fp6vo)

150 Hey Eris, in case I miss you at the book thread tomorrow - I'm really enjoying the Flavia de Luce series! Thanks for talking about it.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at May 18, 2019 06:35 PM (dm05u)

151 120 Who is playing chess in the top picture?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:23 PM (ahS0B)


Apparently, it's 1961 US Women's Champ Lisa Lane. I didn't know who it was when I grabbed the photo and I should add the title to it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (b7IdW)

152 145 143 And... now the sirens are going. Well, that's always a little bit jarring.
----
Did the cops see you?"

No, these are the big ones at several points around the city telling everyone to get away from their windows and get into an interior room. One's only a couple blocks away, and it is really, really loud.

Who wants to do that, though? That's no way to get any good videos on your cell phone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (V2Yro)

153 >>I think Nancy Pelosi was attractive when younger:


Could she take her teeth out back then?

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (S4lAP)

154 148
Could we just get Mayor Pete knocked out?. No, Mayor Pete, Christianity does not have extremists the way Islam does.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:34 PM (ahS0B)


That guy is getting more irritating by the minute.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (sdi6R)

155 @148 Could we just get Mayor Pete knocked out?

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I think it's safe to say that Mayor Pete will knock himself out. People are going to have a hard time taking seriously a gay man whose last name starts with "Butt-"

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (Fp6vo)

156 Japan had all kinds of single engine bombers in their carriers

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (BbGew)

157 Bill Hambrecht was a pioneering investment banker who set-up shop in the Bay Area in the 1970s, going after little tech companies that Wall Street didn't have time for. Apple, Genentech, Adobe. Later Google and Facebook.

He had a junior partner named Pelosi, whose wife learned from her Baltimore mayor dad how to raise money and count favors. She went after the uber-rich techie crowd she met through her husband.

Nancy still controls the purse strings for most of the serious D contributors.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (1UZdv)

158 A Dauntless is a dive bomber like the Ju87.

The Devestator was a torpedo bomber.



Shit. You're right of course. My brain keeps thinking the Ensign Gay squadron what got slaughtered at Midway was SBD Dauntlesses, but the internet says you're right.

I'm going to stop using the internet.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (fuK7c)

159 A Bomber to me has to carry more than a couple of bombs. An f-15 can carry a couple 500 pounders .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (2DOZq)

160 141 Climate Beleivers say climate change will remove oxygen from the water
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 18, 2019 06:30 PM (cxvn3)


Huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (1tY1L)

161
Here's my Most Excellent(tm) response to global warming believers:


https://youtu.be/LJefPaBsSug?t=45s

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (jK3b3)

162 >>Now, I'm starting to believe that Mueller wrapped it up because of John Durham.

According to his hometown paper, the Hartford Courant, Barr has been working on this since last summer. We also have testimony from former General Counsel of the FBI last October where he said he was under criminal investigation by Durham for leaking.

He's been investigating for quite some time.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 06:38 PM (/tuJf)

163 I think Nanny Pelosi is hot now.....power, money and saggy boobs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 06:38 PM (Z+IKu)

164
People in "The Resistance" are beginning to turn on each other.

=========

And that is how we know that justice may be at hand. Not because the evidence is there in plain sight, not because people unambiguously broke laws, but because the guilt is beginning to show in subtle ways.

As long as Hillary was flouncing around the way she was, I never had the slightest belief that she would be caught. Every time another batch of classified emails came out, every time another lie or violation was revealed, I looked only at her demeanor to find out what the consequence would be. As always, nothing.

She's still as cool as a cucumber. It's clear she knows that if anyone swings for this, it's going to be her cohorts, not her.

Their demeanor is another story. They're all racing like the Red Queen to get out ahead of the facts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:39 PM (13CQC)

165 @159 A Bomber to me has to carry more than a couple of bombs. An f-15 can carry a couple 500 pounders .

------------------------

So...

given that there were quite a few planes during World War 2 designed around the idea of flying to a target, dropping one or two bombs, and then flying home...

What would you call those planes?

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:39 PM (Fp6vo)

166 A Bomber to me has to carry more than a couple of bombs. An f-15 can carry a couple 500 pounders .


Yabbut the F-15 can dogfight. There's a crapton of single engine planes that could only drop bombs or torpedoes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 06:39 PM (fuK7c)

167 Vmom, I'm so glad you like them! They only get better as they go along.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 06:39 PM (kQs4Y)

168 I always read Chest Thread. We should have that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2019 06:41 PM (OX6sG)

169 Mueller might well have been told by his boss, Barr, to wrap things up, but probably only after consultations and a chance for Muller to lay out what more he had to do, to keep the special counsel office going. Remember any office like that reports to the AG, or, as for most of this one's existence, to the acting AG. Whose tenure and supervision - and especially the very decision to create the office - really merit very thorough review or investigation themselves.


Wonder if Barr also has that on his agenda.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2019 06:42 PM (QDnY+)

170 What would you call those planes?
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:39 PM (Fp6vo)

widowmakers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:42 PM (V2Yro)

171 You need to place your planes into the era their from to compare them.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 06:43 PM (BbGew)

172
That guy is getting more irritating by the minute.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 06:36 PM (sdi6R)

And he attacked Pence again. I guess he's positioning himself as the "gay" candidate, rather than someone who happens to be gay who has a congruent, appealing vision for America.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:43 PM (ahS0B)

173
former General Counsel of the FBI

Posted by: JackStraw

======

That sniveling smelt James Baker? I lost your pronouns, but did Baker say that Baker was being investigated? God how I'd love that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:43 PM (13CQC)

174 Global warming will evaporate those dire warning mattress tags so we all end up in jail.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 18, 2019 06:44 PM (RuIsu)

175 Nancy grew up in a political machine. She could manipulate Cortez election with half her brain tied behind her back.

Nancy Pelosi's father Thomas D'Alesandro Jr. allegedly was a constant companion of notorious mobster Benjamin Benny Trotta Magliano and other underworld figures during his political years in Baltimore, MD.

http://tinyurl.com/y3vhzgjy


Wonder if it was Kennedy helping her or
she helping him?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:44 PM (ZS+GP)

176 >>That sniveling smelt James Baker? I lost your pronouns, but did Baker say that Baker was being investigated? God how I'd love that.


He did indeed. Last October.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 06:44 PM (/tuJf)

177 Chess#2 White to move.
Why isn't bishop on bishop action the first move here?

Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 06:44 PM (p6Q7Q)

178 Nadler and Pelosi are starting to get all butthurt that Mueller may NEVER show up and testify, and it's NOT because of Trump! It would be because Mueller would see it as him becoming the kickball in between two angry teams, with both of them taking shots at him. Why would he need that, especially at his age? All he has to do is say 'Read my report, it's all there."

Mueller ain't gonna testify for Nadler. Neither is anybody else, now. Nadler's game is over before it even started.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:45 PM (V2Yro)

179
he's positioning himself as the "gay" candidate, rather than someone who happens to be gay who has a congruent, appealing vision for America.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

=====

Live by identity politics, lose by identity politics. Farewell, President Pete.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:46 PM (13CQC)

180

You know the cats with the the little tomato caps on their heads? Or whatever they are.

That's what Mark Zuckerberg looks like with his idiotic hair.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 06:47 PM (jK3b3)

181 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:43 PM (13CQC)

I like that description "sniveling smelt". Do you have anymore-what do you call that "alliteration" using fish names?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:48 PM (ahS0B)

182 You need to place your planes into the era their from to compare them.

Yeah. The F/A18 can carry nearly 3 times the bomb load of a B17, and drop them to become a fighter.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 18, 2019 06:48 PM (yQpMk)

183 177 Chess#2 White to move.
Why isn't bishop on bishop action the first move here?

Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 06:44 PM (p6Q7Q)


Try it! Now what's Black's move?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 06:49 PM (b7IdW)

184 given that there were quite a few planes during World War 2 designed around the idea of flying to a target, dropping one or two bombs, and then flying home...
What would you call those planes?
Posted by: junior

Proto-tomahawks

Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 06:49 PM (p6Q7Q)

185
Did Trump exert executive privilege over Mueller's testimony? If so, why? Why not let the guy go before Congress and spill? Let Democrats ask for the smoking gun and get nothing but smoke.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:49 PM (13CQC)

186 I like that description "sniveling smelt". Do you have anymore-what do you call that "alliteration" using fish names?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:48 PM (ahS0B)


Carping carp?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 06:50 PM (b7IdW)

187 Hey OM, check your Chess.com messages.


*Scurries quickly away*

Posted by: Hacktical at May 18, 2019 06:50 PM (hFbrr)

188 Mayor Buttplug is very ambitious. The kind of guy who joins the Navy to burnish his resume. Who has run his life about where it will put him in twenty years.

I don't understand his recent moves. He's burned himself in the Midwest, and so is poison as a VP nominee. He can't move to NYC and run for mayor, because blacks hate him (he's at 0% with blacks in SC!)

So what's he up to?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:51 PM (1UZdv)

189 >>Did Trump exert executive privilege over Mueller's testimony? If so, why? Why not let the guy go before Congress and spill? Let Democrats ask for the smoking gun and get nothing but smoke.

No, and Barr says he has no problem with Mueller testifying.

The only person stopping him is fat Nadler for the very reason you mentioned. It's just kabuki.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 06:51 PM (/tuJf)

190 The Brexit Party ads* are pretty good. I thought the original Brexit vote was sort of a defining vote contemporary Europe - due to the jaw-dropping, artless defiance of the political class, this vote and the subsequent general election have become even more pivotal.


* available on Nigel Farage's twatters, and now on many others

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2019 06:52 PM (QDnY+)

191 What do you mean? Butt..... is the perfect name for a ghey candidate

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 06:52 PM (BbGew)

192 Helluva halibut?

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 06:52 PM (sdi6R)

193 "The Cold Blue" a new film using William Wyler's WWII footage and digitally enhanced.
It's supposed to be good.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:53 PM (ZS+GP)

194
All that matters now is getting the D nom, which means going very, very far left.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 06:53 PM (jK3b3)

195 BREAKING (to me anyways)
Talks for Mueller to testify have "stalled out" meaning no Mueller!!
BWahahaha
Dems are FUMING!
Mueller knows hes FUUUUCKED!

Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 18, 2019 06:53 PM (aR6C/)

196 @185 Did Trump exert executive privilege over Mueller's testimony? If so, why? Why not let the guy go before Congress and spill? Let Democrats ask for the smoking gun and get nothing but smoke.

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So far as I'm aware, Trump has made no overt moves to influence Mueller. AFAIK, if Mueller is avoiding the House committee, it's Mueller's choice.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:54 PM (Fp6vo)

197 From what I understand, Trump asserted executive privilege because Democrat's were demanding the unlawful release of grand jury testimony.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 18, 2019 06:54 PM (VDbGO)

198 A list of proper animal names. (It's funny) If you scroll about half way down, you see something they've called a "smooth head blob fish" which seems like it would be a good description for some politicians:

https://tinyurl.com/y227arl4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 06:54 PM (ahS0B)

199 Talks for Mueller to testify have "stalled out" meaning no Mueller!!
BWahahaha
Dems are FUMING!
Mueller knows hes FUUUUCKED!



Nadler will offer to exclude the Republicans from the committee meeting.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 18, 2019 06:54 PM (yQpMk)

200 >>> So what's he up to?

Mayor of West Hollywood.

Posted by: fluffy at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (dCRRg)

201 Climate Beleivers say climate change will remove oxygen from the water

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 18, 2019 06:30 PM (cxvn3)

*****

Huh?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (1tY1L)


True. Warmer water holds less dissolved gas in solution, so if water warms up it will hold less oxygen.

Posted by: HTL at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (xOOs/)

202 I don't understand his recent moves. He's burned himself in the Midwest, and so is poison as a VP nominee. He can't move to NYC and run for mayor, because blacks hate him (he's at 0% with blacks in SC!)

So what's he up to?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:51 PM (1UZdv)

He's the fag candidate. End of story.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (pdjM8)

203 It is so much fun to read about the Australian election - *Everyone* predicted the left would have an easy win, right up til the day of the vote, and *every* poll said the Left had a big majority. And they lost!!!! HA HA HA HA!!!

What really makes it so sweet is that the Left in Ozland overtly ran on their version of a "Green New Deal" and said the election was all about Saving the World. (oh, and they were going to stick it to Trump, too, just because)

Green New Deal - DENIED!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:56 PM (V2Yro)

204 True. Warmer water holds less dissolved gas in solution, so if water warms up it will hold less oxygen.


Posted by: HTL at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (xOOs/)

I'm no scientist, but without oxygen you don't even have water, yes? It's just hydrogen.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 18, 2019 06:56 PM (pdjM8)

205 @188 So what's he up to?

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It'll raise his profile, which might help with local political races later on. Or he might parlay his prominence into a political appointment instead of having to go in front of the voters every few years.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:57 PM (Fp6vo)

206 Nadler is fucking fat! And he was fatter before stomach bypass surgery. He lost an entire fat man in weight and he's still fucking fat.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:57 PM (1UZdv)

207
True. Warmer water holds less dissolved gas in solution, so if water warms up it will hold less oxygen.

Posted by: HTL at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (xOOs/)


So the sea levels will fall?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 06:57 PM (ZS+GP)

208
The D candidates are just getting going on their mad dash to the nomination.

We ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 06:57 PM (jK3b3)

209
I like that description "sniveling smelt". Do you have anymore-what do you call that "alliteration" using fish names?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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Haha, I know the guy snivels, and I was trying really hard to think of what he reminded me of visually. White, fishy-lipped. Smelt, that was it.

But here: Hillary Clinton, the blonde bullfrog (enjoy her croaking and chirruping here: https://youtu.be/W8Jvd2eB0DM)



Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:58 PM (13CQC)

210 So what's he up to?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:51 PM (1UZdv)

He's the fag candidate. End of story.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (pdjM

and he is scooping up all of that sweet sweet fag billionaire money in contributions from California, and he is going to have no difficulty at all in putting that into his pocket when his campaign fizzles out. He's a dancing puppet for the billionaires, and he's going to keep dancing as long as they keep paying him. All he has to do is say what they want to hear.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:58 PM (V2Yro)

211 As predicted, Biden wakes up as the plurality front runner in a majority Commie/Aggrieved party.



Today, Biden did a big event where he made himself the nice guy
alternative to Trump's craziness. He said he won't attack the other D
candidates.



But they're going to attack him! Several are on tomorrow's Sunday programs, and they will.



Biden is doddering. I can see him walking off a debate stage, looking to find his car keys.





Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 06:29 PM

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And biden only drew 1/4 the crowd in Philadelphia, PA a union stronghold that Trump draws to any of his rallies.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 07:00 PM (JUOKG)

212
A couple of weeks when the fake indian rejected Fox's invitation, she received 1) much needed publicity, and 2) and positive feedback from her rabid fans.

So, she upped the ante with her "Fox is a hate-for-profit platform" and said she'll run Fox News out of business when she's president.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:01 PM (jK3b3)

213 Mayor Buttblug isn't as smart as he thinks he is. He's now going after Jefferson to win the black vote. Ha!

He talks a good game with Rachel, but he's got no practical political sense. End result of someone who grew up getting As from Harvard government professors.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:01 PM (1UZdv)

214 But here: Hillary Clinton, the blonde bullfrog (enjoy her croaking and chirruping here: https://youtu.be/W8Jvd2eB0DM)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 06:58 PM (13CQC)


I know it's rude to say, but, I couldn't help noticing that belly resting on her thighs.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 07:02 PM (ZS+GP)

215 193 I think I will go see Cold Blue, Anna didn't seem impressed by it.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:02 PM (BbGew)

216

Things with the Democrat candidates will really heat up in September. We'll be shocked at the things coming out of their mouths, then.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:02 PM (jK3b3)

217 I thought the original Brexit vote was sort of a defining vote contemporary Europe - due to the jaw-dropping, artless defiance of the political class,
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There were a shocking number of referendums completely ignored by the EU. If the unwashed electorate voted against it, they would simply hold another referendum, again and again, until they got the desired vote, like with Ireland and the Nice Treaty.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 07:02 PM (kQs4Y)

218
Barr says he has no problem with Mueller testifying.

The only person stopping him is fat Nadler for the very reason you mentioned. It's just kabuki.
Posted by: JackStraw

=====

It's going to be fun come Tuesday morning when Barr doesn't show. I watched some idiots on Lawrence O'Donnell talk about "enforcement" actions. BWAH.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 07:03 PM (13CQC)

219 Buttanotherguy is smart, but he is playing the Leftist guide book.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:03 PM (BbGew)

220 Bill DeBlasio running for president is proof the God loves the Moron Horde and wants us to be entertained.

Posted by: fluffy at May 18, 2019 07:05 PM (dCRRg)

221 OM, check out this university in Germany that has slides for those who want to take a faster route than walking down stairs:

https://twitter.com/41Strange

(top photo)

I see people reading on the ground floor, so it could be a library pic for the Book Thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (kQs4Y)

222 The recent women chess champions seem to be all about looking sexy while playing chess, yet that woman looks kind of frowsy while she's puffing away at a cigarette. I like it. It's down to earth.

There is a nice picture of her looking more attractive on the cover of "Sports Illustrated".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (ahS0B)

223 215 193 I think I will go see Cold Blue, Anna didn't seem impressed by it.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:02 PM (BbGew)


Didn't see the review. But if Puma didn't say it was a maudlin pos, it's probably worth the view just for all the aerial footage.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (ZS+GP)

224 165 @159 A Bomber to me has to carry more than a couple of bombs. An f-15 can carry a couple 500 pounders .

------------------------

So...

given that there were quite a few planes during World War 2 designed around the idea of flying to a target, dropping one or two bombs, and then flying home...

What would you call those planes?
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 06:39 PM (Fp6vo)

Those are always referred to with their descriptor. Mostly 'dive' and they were for windows of opportunity.
Targets. I don't know what other planes you're talking about carrying one bomb that were built for a specific mission and target. No snark. Educate me.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (2DOZq)

225
I suggest you all steer clear of the Fake News shows tomorrow. It's gonna be all about abortion, wherein stupid, weak Republicans will not be able (or be willing) to articulate a non-baby-murdering position.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (jK3b3)

226 What really makes it so sweet is that the Left in Ozland overtly ran on their version of a "Green New Deal" and said the election was all about Saving the World. (oh, and they were going to stick it to Trump, too, just because)
Green New Deal - DENIED!!!!


You know that if it was the conservative side that lost an Aussie election they thought they'd win, the MSM here would be all, like, "what does this election mean for Donald Trump, and is it a portent of 2020?"

But so far, no comment.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:07 PM (b7IdW)

227
So Long, Ultraman!
Take Care!

And hurry back!

https://youtu.be/qZCGQXfsXbU?t=23m47s

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:08 PM (jK3b3)

228
I know it's rude to say, but, I couldn't help noticing that belly resting on her thighs.
Posted by: Braenyard

=====

Head and shoulders becoming as one. I know it's not nice either, but she didn't need to thrust herself into the public eye pretending to be vital and frosty.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 07:09 PM (13CQC)

229 212

So, she upped the ante with her "Fox is a hate-for-profit platform"
and said she'll run Fox News out of business when she's president.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:01 PM (jK3b3)


Censorship of the news is such a quintessentially American platform.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:09 PM (sdi6R)

230 True. Warmer water holds less dissolved gas in solution, so if water warms up it will hold less oxygen.
Posted by: HTL at May 18, 2019 06:55 PM (xOOs/)


Oh FFS. The thermal coefficient of solubility of oxygen in water changes by a minuscule amount over the temperature range in question.

This is a case of people quacking who don't know doodly about science. Sure, if you boil water, you outgas it, but that's not what we're talking about. The difference in water temperature between the Arctic and the tropics is greater than the temperature difference they impute to the putative global warming.

Sheesh.

(Out of curiosity, I looked up the facts. An increase in sea water temperature from 25 C to 30 C - i.e., WAY more than the warmists postulate - decreases the molar solubility of oxygen by 8%. Pfff.

https://tinyurl.com/y6yyfu5f )

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 07:09 PM (1tY1L)

231 Nadler is an obese man in a fat man's body?

Posted by: John FitzJelly Donut at May 18, 2019 07:10 PM (vqIkG)

232 Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (jK3b3)


Except for Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 07:10 PM (ZS+GP)

233
given that there were quite a few planes during World War 2 designed around the idea of flying to a target, dropping one or two bombs, and then flying home...

What would you call those planes?
Posted by: junior


Wishful thinking

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 07:11 PM (aKsyK)

234 I've been a big fan of kayleigh mcenany -- cute as a button, sharp as a tack -- who's now the press secretary for Trump's re-election campaign. Think of a much prettier, much younger Kellyanne who's smarter and quicker on her feet.

She carries Trump's message well

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:12 PM (1UZdv)

235 Tomorrow's headlines:
Black Man Beats Mexican at NASCAR Event

(Bubba Wallace advances to All Star race despite Daniel Suarez/s best efforts to spin him out coming to the finish line)

Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2019 07:12 PM (kOpft)

236 I linked the trailers to Cold Blue early one morning on a ONT, they can be found on YouTube

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:13 PM (BbGew)

237 221 OM, check out this university in Germany that has slides for those who want to take a faster route than walking down stairs:
https://twitter.com/41Strange
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 07:06 PM (kQs4Y)


Wheeeeee!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:14 PM (b7IdW)

238 >>> It's gonna be all about abortion, wherein stupid, weak Republicans will not be able (or be willing) to articulate a non-baby-murdering position.

Nobody on those shows will have the spine to point out that these recent laws are backlash against the Virginia infanticide law.

Posted by: fluffy at May 18, 2019 07:14 PM (dCRRg)

239 For anyone interested, this is a fascinating article describing the long relationship between Mueller and Comey, with a cameo by Wray, and a look at how the whole FISA process got opened to corruption.

It's a long read so you may want to bookmark and read it later but it is very interesting, the puffery of our heroes in the DOJ/FBI not withstanding.

https://tinyurl.com/y6bs45pq

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:15 PM (/tuJf)

240 Dem's please keep pinning your hope on Joey B.

Your 2024 hopes are going to be even less relevant.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2019 07:15 PM (fyf7W)

241
The shitty pope is talking out his ass, again.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:15 PM (jK3b3)

242 @230

But wouldn't warming oceans hold less CO2, and make a contribution to the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.

If so, then more CO2 in the air is a result of warming from other causes, and not itself a significant cause.

Quick math show that if all the CO2 in the air were frozen into dry ice, it's only be an inch crust on the oceans. So this is trace effect, but one that alarmists have made their centerpiece.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:17 PM (1UZdv)

243 Just an fyi, fish breathe atmospheric O2 that is dissolved/mixed into H2O. They don't split H20 molecules to derive oxygen.

Posted by: irright at May 18, 2019 07:18 PM (RVcmP)

244 Remember the blithering idiot who was on this site constantly, angrily posting, "Mueller Time!" right after Andrew McCabe was fired?

I remember thinking that it was either the drunken Andy McCabe himself, or else just a distraught Bill Kristol....

Isn't it FUN watching the wheels fall off?

Isn't it hilarious watching all of their fucking lies being revealed for all to see?

Who do you most want to see sent to prison? I want that corrupt, smug prick Peter Strzok behind bars. I also badly want to see Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Rice, McCabe, and Bruce and Nellie Ohr. Lord, how I would love to see Nellie Ohr forced to explain who she was in communication with on her ham radio....

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 18, 2019 07:19 PM (VDbGO)

245 JackStraw, I have been unable to follow some of your links because- Dial_up

I am catching up in other places though.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2019 07:20 PM (fyf7W)

246 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 07:21 PM (Smav1)

247 Comey and Mueller like a den of thieves

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:21 PM (BbGew)

248 I can email you the link if you need it, Ben.

It's worth your time so let me know.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:21 PM (/tuJf)

249 given
that there were quite a few planes during World War 2 designed around
the idea of flying to a target, dropping one or two bombs, and then
flying home...



What would you call those planes?

Posted by: junior



Wishful thinking

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 07:11 PM (aKsyK)

for a serious answer. I am not a plane guy but what i think one could lump smaller, air to ground "bombers" as attack aircraft. The attack jets were smaller jets that dropped bombs and fired rockets but did not look anything like tactical or strategic bombers. For reference check out planes/jets that start with an A instead of an F. I am not jsut talking ww2 but up to the present day.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 07:22 PM (n13/j)

250 >>It's a long read so you may want to bookmark and read it later but it is very interesting, the puffery of our heroes in the DOJ/FBI not withstanding

https://tinyurl.com/y6bs45pq

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:15 PM (/tuJf)

Read that. Interesting. Thanks Jackstraw!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:22 PM (vu/qe)

251 Hi, JT!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:23 PM (vu/qe)

252 @244 Sam Adams

Your list fits nicely with the perpetrators of the Flynn Frame.

My dream is charges for "denial of civil rights under color of law." They set him up!, for shrt.

Everyone understands Dirty Cops, and it won't abide.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:23 PM (1UZdv)

253 I'm thinking that blue car is a Jaguar because I suspect that lady is whoever the British royalty lady what keeps having babies, but it sure looks like an audi, too. Which is awkward.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 07:25 PM (lPsvG)

254
Check out the Knockers in this hilarious clip from The Six Million Dollar Man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofxhsVWB5A

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:25 PM (jK3b3)

255
lol @ "It's all in the wrist."

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:26 PM (jK3b3)

256 Can I pick Joe Biden for next year's dead pool?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 18, 2019 07:26 PM (NjJUT)

257 Hi, JT!
Posted by: My life is insanity


Soooooo....how was your day ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 07:26 PM (Smav1)

258 I enjoyed both problems today, OM. #2 was particularly satisfying. Once the stalemate idea dawns on one, it gets quite easy to solve that, I think.

Posted by: Philip at May 18, 2019 07:27 PM (bklXd)

259 Images of RBG are only slightly more rare than photos of Hillary standing unassisted.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 07:27 PM (lPsvG)

260 Going to see Cold Blue on Thursday. Little risk. I haven't spent $1OO on movies in a decade, and WWII documentary footage is crack for me.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2019 07:28 PM (QDnY+)

261 JackStraw, Please send me your analysis. That will save time rather than links that take 2 hours.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2019 07:28 PM (fyf7W)

262 @224 Those are always referred to with their descriptor. Mostly 'dive' and they were for windows of opportunity.
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They weren't for "windows of opportunity". They were designed to carry out a style of bombing - i.e. dive bomber, or torpedo bomber. What you're most likely referring to with the word "bomber" is something that is more precisely described as a "level bomber". It's a plane that flies at a steady level or elevation, and drops bombs from there. Dropping bombs in this fashion tends to have accuracy issues, so it tended to work better with larger planes, which could carry sophisticated bomb sights that made it more likely that the bombs would land on target. Additionally, carrying a larger payload of bombs (which you can do with a bigger plane) made it more likely that that target would actually get hit, instead of having nothing but near-misses.

Level bombers were further sub-divided into various classes, such as "heavy" or "strategic" bombers, etc...

Dive bombers were smaller planes. Planes of this size tended not to carry sophisticated bomb sights. Instead, the pilot was expected to "aim" the bomb by pointing his plane toward the target on the ground or water, and releasing the bomb while in this dive. The combination of the pilot's steep dive (putting him nearly over the target for an extended period of time), low horizontal velocity (since most of the pilot's speed is vertical), and the high speed of the release, meant that the bomb had a decent chance of hitting close to where the pilot had intended.

Torpedo bombers are the other "well-known" single-engine bomber. These are level bombers. But unlike other level bombers, they're designed to carry specialized ordinance for use against ships. To the best of my knowledge, there's no reason why a torpedo bomber couldn't carry a regular bomb. But the accuracy against most targets would be horrible due to the lack of appropriate bombsights on such a plane (you don't need much in the way of targeting assistance when you're launching torpedoes against very large ships).

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:29 PM (Fp6vo)

263 A Bomber to me has to carry more than a couple of bombs. An f-15 can carry a couple 500 pounders .
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 06:37 PM (2DOZq)

Uh...more than 20,000 lbs.

Posted by: Agitator at May 18, 2019 07:29 PM (m9DnX)

264 >>Soooooo....how was your day ?
Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 07:26 PM (Smav1)

Got done what we needed to do. However, I don't recommend falling 5.5 feet.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:30 PM (vu/qe)

265 However, I don't recommend falling 5.5 feet.

Ouch !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 07:31 PM (Smav1)

266 @238 Nobody on those shows will have the spine to point out that these recent laws are backlash against the Virginia infanticide law.

-------------------

Didn't it get mentioned here the other day that Chris Cuomo basically flat out lied and claimed that there was no such law when whatsisname tried to bring it up while on the air with Cuomo?

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:32 PM (Fp6vo)

267 solutions up

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:32 PM (b7IdW)

268 At the start of WWII, all the airplanes had been designed in the 1930s before the war. Most nations had two-engine "medium" bombers,but there were few four-engine "heavy" bombers. The B-17 existed at the start of the war, and maybe the British Lancaster. With few exceptions, the Germans and Japanese didn't field heavy bombers.


I suppose a single-engine plane designed to drop bombs would have been called a "light" bomber. Practically all carrier planes were single-engine. The Doolittle Raid launching medium bombers from a carrier was pretty much unprecedented at the time.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:32 PM (sdi6R)

269 re bombers and attack aircraft. This link looks good though I don't vouch for the content. https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Attack_aircraft

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 07:33 PM (n13/j)

270 I guess Thursday I'm going to the movies

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:34 PM (BbGew)

271 >>JackStraw, Please send me your analysis. That will save time rather than links that take 2 hours.

It would take me two hours to summarize. I sent you the link so you can read it at your leisure.

There's a lot of stuff in their about the long friendship of Comey and Mueller and how they were in key positions when the FISA powers and warrantless spying on US citizens under a project code named Stellar Wind got started.

Also note, the huge NSA data center that was recently built to collect all of this data and store it for search?

Utah.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:34 PM (/tuJf)

272 Once the stalemate idea dawns on one, it gets quite easy to solve that, I think.
Posted by: Philip at May 18, 2019 07:27 PM (bklXd)


Yes. Every time I try to solve an endgame problem, I always look for stalemate possibilities and how they can effect things.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:35 PM (b7IdW)

273 241
The shitty pope is talking out his ass, again.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:15 PM (jK3b3)

Dear Lord, what did Pope Lenin say now?

Posted by: Marybeth at May 18, 2019 07:35 PM (MEgUr)

274 Just thought I'd check into the thread and let you Neanderthals know you're still not getting any from me.

Posted by: Alyssa Milano at May 18, 2019 07:35 PM (4knXT)

275 Except the Condor used more as a naval operation aircraft Germany never did develop a heavy bomber

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:36 PM (BbGew)

276 225
I suggest you all steer clear of the Fake News shows tomorrow
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So what I have been doing every Sunday for my entire life? No problemo!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 07:36 PM (BFr0z)

277 there

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:36 PM (/tuJf)

278 Got done what we needed to do. However, I don't recommend falling 5.5 feet.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:30 PM (vu/qe)


Ouch. I hope you didn't break anything, like bone(s).

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:36 PM (b7IdW)

279 At
the start of WWII, all the airplanes had been designed in the 1930s
before the war. Most nations had two-engine "medium" bombers,but there
were few four-engine "heavy" bombers. The B-17 existed at the start of
the war, and maybe the British Lancaster. With few exceptions, the
Germans and Japanese didn't field heavy bombers.


I suppose a
single-engine plane designed to drop bombs would have been called a
"light" bomber. Practically all carrier planes were single-engine. The
Doolittle Raid launching medium bombers from a carrier was pretty much
unprecedented at the time.


Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:32 PM (sdi6R)

good info.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 07:36 PM (n13/j)

280 I suck at this. Still find it interesting though.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

281 junior, pretty sure the TBF torpedo bomber was used by both Navy and Marines as a level bomber, at times.


In fact Bush senior was shot down on such a mission against Chichi Jima.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2019 07:37 PM (QDnY+)

282 275
Except the Condor used more as a naval operation aircraft Germany never did develop a heavy bomber

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:36 PM (BbGew)


That's the one I was thinking of. The Japanese had a four-engine flying boat, but that was mostly used for observation. I don't know whether it ever carried any bombs.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

283 But wouldn't warming oceans hold less CO2, and make a contribution to the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:17 PM (1UZdv)


Sure. But again, a temperature difference of a few degrees is not going to make a huge difference in the solubility of any gas.

The difference in the absolute amount might be huge, but has to be compared with the amount already of the gas already in the atmosphere, i.e., expressed as a percentage, because there's probably not a person in a million to whom an absolute figure would be meaningful. Suppose the amount of CO2 in the air increased by, say, 100 million tons (made up number). Is that a lot? A little? What? You'd have to do extensive calculations to figure out which it was.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 07:38 PM (1tY1L)

284 Here is the order I would like to see convicted, of anything, really, as long as it sticks:

Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Comey, Strozk, and whoever Strozk was banging in the office while cheating on his wife.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 07:38 PM (w7KSn)

285 Udet was the daddy of dive bombing in Germany.

He killed hisself trying to keep up wartime production.

The pressure got to him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 07:39 PM (Z+IKu)

286 If Hitler had a B-17 equivalent, would the Blitz been more effective, and possibly decisive?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:39 PM (1UZdv)

287 Trump could do a debate movie callback for Mayor ButtPlug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfnz32eOpS4

IDK what the +/- voters by state breakdown would be for Dom Deluise fans vs. aggrieved poofters.

Posted by: DaveA at May 18, 2019 07:39 PM (FhXTo)

288 >> Got done what we needed to do. However, I don't recommend falling 5.5 feet.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:30 PM (vu/qe)

Ouch. I hope you didn't break anything, like bone(s).
Posted by: OregonMuse.

Maybe my tailbone. Messed up my shoulder (the good one) ankle swollen. But on the plus side I probably missed breaking my neck by this >

This project is may kill me yet! Or maybe my brother is trying to kill me

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:40 PM (vu/qe)

289 177
Chess#2 White to move.

Why isn't bishop on bishop action the first move here?


Game wasn't played at the Vatican.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 18, 2019 07:41 PM (vWMNq)

290 Ignoramus, ceteris paribus, probably not - Battle of Britain outcome remains the same.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2019 07:41 PM (QDnY+)

291 Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Comey, Strozk, and whoever Strozk was banging in the office while cheating on his wife.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 07:38 PM (w7KSn)


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What? No love for Obama, Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Samantha Power, Rosenstein, and Ohr?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 07:42 PM (4knXT)

292 Oops. This > < much

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 18, 2019 07:42 PM (vu/qe)

293
Pope says the free press is important, and he warns about disinformation.

In other words, the pope endorsed Fake News, and warned against alternative news sites.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 07:42 PM (jK3b3)

294 One of the problems is that people watch a couple segments of Nova, maybe read a little pop sci, half-remember any chemistry they ever took, and then proceed to opine on the matter - but without taking stock of relative magnitudes.

Even many scientists have this problem. Under some conditions, in principle a phenomenon should take place. But does it have a significant influence? (Here warming sea water WOULD reduce the solubility of oxygen.) They never ask the second question regarding relative magnitudes.

I used to tell my students that in principle, you could slow down a oncoming runaway truck by running out into the street and farting toward it. Would that slow the truck? Sure. By an infinitesimal amount.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 07:42 PM (1tY1L)

295 Melania is always so beautiful and elegant. Such a refreshing change from the Moose.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 07:43 PM (htgmn)

296 "What? No love for Obama, Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Samantha Power, Rosenstein, and Ohr?"

Yeah, but I don't expect convictions of any of those in a DC jury pool.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 07:43 PM (w7KSn)

297 K+B+N vs. K is my worst nightmare. I've played that through with chess books, but I don't know if I could actually pull it off in a real game.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:44 PM (sdi6R)

298 The Sunday Shows often kick off the Media Spin Narrative for the week, and hence a window into what the Left is thinking.

Lots of D candidates are on tomorrow. Will they be nice to Nice Guy Biden?

Schiff and Romney also have slots. Because

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:44 PM (1UZdv)

299 Kate sure brings some class to the royals. And Melania of course to the WH.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 07:44 PM (r+sAi)

300 JS, d&co tour starts in 2 weeks.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 07:45 PM (PUmDY)

301 I've lost track I think but another movie night tonight?

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:45 PM (BbGew)

302 @281 junior, pretty sure the TBF torpedo bomber was used by both Navy and Marines as a level bomber, at times.


In fact Bush senior was shot down on such a mission against Chichi Jima.

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Thanks

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:45 PM (Fp6vo)

303 280 I suck at this. Still find it interesting though.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 07:37 PM (NWiLs)


Believe me, I feel the same way.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:45 PM (b7IdW)

304 In fact Bush senior was shot down on such a mission against Chichi Jima.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2019 07:37 PM (QDnY+)
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As much as I don't like the old man he was a tough nut.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 07:46 PM (ZS+GP)

305 "Under some conditions, in principle a phenomenon should take place. But does it have a significant influence?"

Basic understanding of basic calculus principles helps.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:46 PM (1UZdv)

306 @286 If Hitler had a B-17 equivalent, would the Blitz been more effective, and possibly decisive?

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Nope.

Outside of carpet bombing, the B-17 was extremely ineffective against non-industrial targets. There were attempts to use them both to attack enemy ground troops, and against enemy ships. But the results were very poor.

The exception to that was carpet bombing, which essentially consisted of saturating a chunk of ground with a ridiculous number of bombs dropped by waves of heavy bombers. But only the US had the manufacturing capability to do something like that on a consistent basis, as it used up a very large number of bombs. The results were impressive. But so was the cost in materials.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:48 PM (Fp6vo)

307 300
JS, dco tour starts in 2 weeks.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 07:45 PM (PUmDY)


I read that as "disco tour" and thought WTF?

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

308 291 Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Comey, Strozk, and whoever Strozk was banging in the office while cheating on his wife.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 07:38 PM (w7KSn)

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What? No love for Obama, Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Samantha Power, Rosenstein, and Ohr?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 07:42 PM (4knXT)
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The endless list is reason why it's now legal to grow hemp for rope in the USA.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 07:49 PM (ZS+GP)

309 >>JS, d&co tour starts in 2 weeks.

Are you going to some show?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:49 PM (/tuJf)

310 I read that as "disco tour" and thought WTF?
Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

Play that funky music, white boy!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 07:50 PM (NWiLs)

311 >>What? No love for Obama, Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Samantha Power, Rosenstein, and Ohr?

If you are waiting for Rosenstein to get indicted you have a very long wait ahead of you.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2019 07:51 PM (/tuJf)

312 @306 @286 If Hitler had a B-17 equivalent, would the Blitz been more effective, and possibly decisive?

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Whoops...


Wrong Blitz. I answered as if you meant Blitzkrieg. But what you meant was the London Blitz.

Probably not enough to matter. Germany couldn't sustain it for long enough. The German raids were untargeted, as were the British raids that happened during the war. Only the US launched large precision raids, and people still debate just how useful those were.

So if Germany had used large numbers of four-engine bombers, they probably still wouldn't have brought Great Britain to its knees.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:51 PM (Fp6vo)

313 West Coast run 1st week, Wrigley and Boulder weekends, nyc, Boston, Atl, charlotte

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 07:52 PM (PUmDY)

314 @290 and 306.

Thanks. I imagine an effect of carpet bombing was to create firestorms.

Also, am I right that the Hiroshima bombing was like lighting a match to all those wooden buildings and homes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:52 PM (1UZdv)

315 @286 If Hitler had a B-17 equivalent, would the Blitz been more effective, and possibly decisive?


No. Goering was a moron. He sent his planes over willy nilly instead of targeting radar sites ( I think the Brits only had one), ports, shipping and airfields.

Used in conjunction with a U-Boat offensive against the ports and shipping, the results may have been different.

Fat Hermann. He never recovered.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 07:53 PM (Z+IKu)

316 Shakedown St is disco Dead and their cover of Dancing in the Streets.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 07:54 PM (PUmDY)

317 299 Kate sure brings some class to the royals. And Melania of course to the WH.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 07:44 PM (r+sAi)


Kate does.

And Crown Princess Mary of Denmark is just as beautiful and classy.

Posted by: Marybeth at May 18, 2019 07:54 PM (MEgUr)

318 Hanson says the war was over when it started.
We had the B-17, England had the Lancaster.

Ask Hitler, how are you going to bomb NY?
How are you going bomb Detroit?

Ask Tojo, how are you going to bomb San Diego?
How are you going to bomb west coast ports and manufacturing?

Hitler already had more than the EU does today.
Tojo had (almost and would have) had China.


They jumped the gun.
They shot themselves in the foot.
They picked the wrong fight.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 07:54 PM (ZS+GP)

319 I want to believe that Lisa Page has flipped, and they're working on Strzok. They can connect a lot of dots, and validate lots of damning declassified documents.

If we had a real Media they'd be camped on doorstep.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:54 PM (1UZdv)

320 299 Kate sure brings some class to the royals. And Melania of course to the WH.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 07:44 PM (r+sAi)

And of course Melania does as well.

Posted by: Marybeth at May 18, 2019 07:55 PM (MEgUr)

321 @294 They never ask the second question regarding relative magnitudes.

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Back during the '80s, the State of California sprayed malathion from helicopters in an attempt to halt infestations of a particular invasive fruit fly. The locals tended not to like this activity. So when news got out about a report that found that malathion causes cancer, Los Angeles immediately jumped on it and used it to try and get a court order to have the spraying stopped as a health hazard.

Unfortunately, apparently no one in LA bothered to check the details first. Apparently the risk of cancer from malathion was so low that ordinary common dirt was more of a hazard than the insecticide.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:55 PM (Fp6vo)

322 Skip,

The He-177 came in a 4 engine version. Even the Italians got into the game. P 108 4 engine bomber.

The P stands for "pesanti" or Heavy in eyetie

Posted by: John FitzJelly Donut at May 18, 2019 07:56 PM (vqIkG)

323 Fire storms I take it were a phenomenon really unknown before they happened. And it wasn't every bombing raid just a few that came about under the right conditions.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 07:56 PM (BbGew)

324 Bad weather in ETEX, but no nazi Condor bombers (I suppose closest equivalent to B17?).

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2019 07:57 PM (qBNEP)

325 WE GOT MOVIE SIGN!!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 07:58 PM (b7IdW)

326 If Hitler had a B-17 equivalent, would the Blitz been more effective, and possibly decisive?

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Possibly. The Battle of Britain was a close run thing but even if the Nazis had achieved air superiority over Britain, they would have still had to pull a William the Conqueror and they really didn't have the ships or craft to do it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (+y/Ru)

327 The Italians seemed to be really big on three-engine planes.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (sdi6R)

328 102 The old-style plane print for the dress is very nice fabric, but they call it a "bomber airplane print". Has anyone pedantically pointed out to the "History Club" that there is no way those single engine prop jobs they've got there would be called "bombers"??? Ok the fact that they're all about to run into each other, I'll just let that go.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 06:16 PM (V2Yro)

The only way they could be bombers is if they were carrier aircraft. VT/VB/VS were all single engine bombers.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 18, 2019 08:02 PM (MwFQu)

329 @314 Thanks. I imagine an effect of carpet bombing was to create firestorms.

Also, am I right that the Hiroshima bombing was like lighting a match to all those wooden buildings and homes.

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Carpet bombing was used to flatten whatever was underneath it. Panzer Division Lehr had the unfortunate experience of being underneath the first carpet bombing. He reported seeing tanks flipped over, and men suffering from complete breakdowns due to the shock.

Incendiaries weren't used, to the best of my knowledge.

The bomb at Hiroshima essentially caused a massive blast wave. Anything that was close enough and that didn't get knocked over likely caught fire from the heat. But the results likely weren't conducive to setting the entire city on fire. There are enough reports from people who survived the bombings that we have a rough idea of how it worked. If you were outside the immediate blast, and dove behind or into something that could protect you from the blast wave then you'd likely survive the immediate effects (one man apparently survived BOTH Hiroshima and Nagasaki; he warned his wife after the first one, and she survived the second one by jumping into a ditch when she saw the initial flash).

And we really didn't need the atomic bombs to set Japanese cities on fire. We'd been doing that for quite a while using B-29s with incendiary bombs.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:02 PM (Fp6vo)

330 Kate sure brings some class to the royals. And Melania of course to the WH.

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Kate doesn't have the aura that mesmerized people the way Diana did, but she is a lovely lady and had a great sense of fashion. Melania, of course, is a total class act, and is a lot more pleasing than her predecessor, Lady Armpits.

Posted by: Lady in Black, Death to the Man Bun at May 18, 2019 08:03 PM (JoUsr)

331
Who do you most want to see sent to prison? I want that corrupt, smug prick Peter Strzok behind bars. I also badly want to see Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Rice, McCabe, and Bruce and Nellie Ohr. Lord, how I would love to see Nellie Ohr forced to explain who she was in communication with on her ham radio....
Posted by: Sam Adams

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If you believe Rice can go, you must believe that Samantha Power can go. Did someone forge those unmasking requests or not? She needs to have those things thrust under her face on the witness stand and asked whether it's her signature or not.

Going back to the Hillary investigation, I want to at least see Cheryl Mills, Huma, and Heather Samuelson peeing their pants if not prosecuted.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (13CQC)

332 Young Pelosi is a ringer for a young Eleanor Donahue.

Posted by: Lady in Black, Death to the Man Bun at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (JoUsr)

333 @328 The only way they could be bombers is if they were carrier aircraft. VT/VB/VS were all single engine bombers.

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The JU-87 Stuka was also single-engine...

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:05 PM (Fp6vo)

334 Funny how a dress pattern sparked all this discussion about bombers.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (sdi6R)

335 Did someone forge those unmasking requests or not?


I think OK came from the boss.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 08:07 PM (ZS+GP)

336 Later in the war, P-47s and F4U Corsairs were used in ground attack roles, and dropped bombs.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (sdi6R)

337 John Wick 3 is balletic action with great visuals. Little plot, except to set-up John Wick 4.

Wick doesn't understand overkill. He relishes in it.

Saw it in Dolby. Great sound

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (1UZdv)

338 Basic understanding of basic calculus principles helps.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 07:46 PM (1UZdv)


It does, a bit, but more important is understanding relative magnitudes in physics and chemistry. One problem is that we might teach, say, NMR spectrometry one week, and X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy then next, without giving any impression of the relative energies involved. This especially true because in NMR we'd typically talk about ppm shifts, and never talk about absolute magnitudes of energy (typically ~ 0.001 cm-1 for NMR). For XPS, we'd talk about keV, and never point out that the two differ in energy by over 20 orders of magnitude. The two techniques are usually presented as though they're pretty much of a muchness.

THAT is the problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (1tY1L)

339 What Jay Guevara said.

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (qBNEP)

340 >>Also note, the huge NSA data center that was recently built to collect all of this data and store it for search?

Utah.


Guy I know from College is making bank helping the tribes run Data Lines across their sacred land.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (S4lAP)

341 >>Shakedown St is disco Dead and their cover of Dancing in the Streets.


The Disco Big Rivers are where it's at!

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (S4lAP)

342 Back during the '80s, the State of California sprayed malathion from helicopters in an attempt to halt infestations of a particular invasive fruit fly. The locals tended not to like this activity. So when news got out about a report that found that malathion causes cancer, Los Angeles immediately jumped on it and used it to try and get a court order to have the spraying stopped as a health hazard.

Unfortunately, apparently no one in LA bothered to check the details first. Apparently the risk of cancer from malathion was so low that ordinary common dirt was more of a hazard than the insecticide.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 07:55 PM (Fp6vo)


Grrr. See also horse-faced Meryl Streep and Alar. The stupid bitch saw the tox data that said that Alar caused cancer at something like an incidence of 0.001 +- 0.1 per 100,000. So she multiplied the former figure by the population of the US, and then testified before Congress that Alar causes 0.001 X 300 million X 10^-5 cancers per year, ignoring the fact that the error limits on that number were larger than the number itself. So in fact Alar was as likely to be beneficial as toxic, based on those data, i.e., no statistically significant effect.

A classic case of a little knowledge - or in her case, a boatload of ignorance - being a dangerous thing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (1tY1L)

343 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjEg5KRB09o
Florida Man drives Cadillac while sitting on sunroof

Posted by: Florida, man. at May 18, 2019 08:21 PM (K1IUD)

344 Garrett, Punk Rock Bowling next wekend.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (PUmDY)

345 It's going to be fun come Tuesday morning when Barr doesn't show. I watched some idiots on Lawrence O'Donnell talk about "enforcement" actions. BWAH.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 07:03 PM (13CQC)

Gunfight at Main Justice, when the House Sgt at Arms takes on the AG's security detail.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (MwFQu)

346 JFK giving Babs boobs his telephone #.

http://tinyurl.com/yx96n2dk

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (ZS+GP)

347
Gunfight at Main Justice, when the House Sgt at Arms takes on the AG's security detail.
Posted by: Fox2!
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Pretty sure that the power of arrest, indictment, and prosecution lies with the AG.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 08:43 PM (CDGwz)

348 JFK bows to MM's bosom.

http://tinyurl.com/y3d6ulbl

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 08:52 PM (ZS+GP)

349 JFK bows to MM's bosom.

" Happy Birthday Mr. Motorboat- I mean President"

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:06 PM (icuj/)

350 Finally saw the solution to the "easy" one, lol.

Posted by: waelse1 at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (t0oo5)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

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H/T Legally Sufficient

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Good afternoon Morons and Lurkers and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Loosen up that pinch collar, sit, stay and be good. Let's enjoy the world of pets and animals.

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A Little of This. A Little of That.


Owning a dog, it is in the genes.H/T CBD

Owning a dog is influenced by our genetic make-up
Date:
May 17, 2019
Source:
Uppsala University
Summary:
Scientists have studied the heritability of dog ownership using information from 35,035 twin pairs from the Swedish Twin Registry. The new study suggests that genetic variation explains more than half of the variation in dog ownership, implying that the choice of getting a dog is heavily influenced by an individual's genetic make-up.


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RIP Grumpy Cat.

Grumpy Cat, arguably the internet's most popular cat and one of its first viral memes, has died aged 7.

The furry sensation's family announced her death on Twitter on Friday.
"We are unimaginably heartbroken to announce the loss of our beloved Grumpy Cat," Tabatha Bundesen, Grumpy Cat's owner, said.


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Usually the AoS Pet Thread attempts to stay away from politics, but..........When you walk your dog, your dog going potty may effect the environment.

Nobody knows just how many dogs there are in the United States, but there are plenty—and many of them live (and pee) in human cities. Turns out, canine bathroom breaks may have more of an impact on the environment than you might think.

In a new study, a team of Columbia University undergraduate and graduate researchers led by ecologist Krista McGuire looked at the impact of pee on the urban soil microbiome. They found evidence that the nitrogen content and low pH of the urine can make city soil both harder and less absorbent of rainwater, while making the soil microbiome less diverse.


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Some people have bulls for pets and some have bulls for business. Someone is missing a bull. And he's been causing some trouble.

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Talk about a rubber necking traffic jam.


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Cute, but not quite a puppy.


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Viral cat.


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Be careful what you name your pet in China. You could end up in the slammer.

A young dog breeder in eastern China was recently arrested and sentenced to ten days in a detention center after giving two of his canines controversial names that refer to Chinese government and civil service workers.

The 30-year-old man, surnamed Ban, was summoned by police on Monday, after posting on Chinese social network WeChat that he had named two of his dogs Chengguan and Xieguan. The first refers to officials tasked with tackling low-level crime, while the second is a name used to describe informal community workers, such as traffic assistants. Ban said that he didn’t know using the two words as names for his dogs was illegal, and that he had done it as a joke, but police failed to see the humor and launched an investigation after the man’s post went viral online.

So what are some of the names you have named your pets over the years and why?

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Meet The PetMorons


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This is Romeo, who at 10, is still my baby. He is also my shadow, comfort, and joy. He thinks he is William Tell, though, as you can see he has an apple on his head. - Kate J.

Quite the kitteh this Romeo fella. He certainly appears to live the good life. Thanks for sharing with us Kate J.


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Photo-bombing Robinson in the second photo is the annoying little twerp, the infamous Puck, who was introduced in a previous pet thread. We are making progress but she is still pretty untamed and driving everybody (especially Robinson) crazy with her antics. - Corn and Beans

Well it certainly looks like Puck belongs here at the almost world famous Pet Thread. It seems Robinson is a patient cat. Thanks!


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Have read and loved the blog for years and was thrilled when the pet thread debuted! I rarely comment, but am active in the Facebook groups!

My husband and I have never been blessed with children, but He blessed us with dachshunds! I did not like the breed as a child, and when we began dating and I was to meet my then future in laws, I was warned that the family dachshunds Gingie and Nutmeg were going to dislike me intensely, so I was prepared for them to ignore me completely. To everyone's amazement, both took to me and it was love at first sight for me, and I have loved the breed ever since 2001.


Our current pack consists of Snoopy the Pirate King and Sweetie our beagle princess. And a long haired dachshund puppy is joining us this summer! (Image 2935)

The Christmas photo is 2012 and consists of the original Dachsies With Moxie- Thai is on the floor, Ginger and Chip are on Santas lap, Geoff is holding Anna and I have Tasha. - Agnes

Agnes, thanks for your recent email and your wonderful love affair with Dachshunds. Many of us have a love affair with certain breeds. Thanks for the photos.


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Long time lurkers here and we love the pet thread. Here is our Motley Crue...Buddy is the bigger one on the right he’s a lab/beagle mix. Bailey is in the middle and we believe he’s a Jack Russell. They were shelter (cell mates) and couldn’t be separated so we took them both. Billie is the one on the left she’s a Maltese and Shih Tzu mix (Malti-Tzu?) and she came to us from a relative in Chicago who couldn’t take care of her. So from the Windy City to the woods of Michigan it was quite a change for her. This is their Christmas pose and they are naturals when the camera comes out - Mark n Steph

OK, just how many treats were you guys holding to get them to pose for that great photo? Wonderful crew you have there! Thanks for sharing with us.


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I have been a long time lurker and now have attracted my wife to look you over on a regular basis. We both love the AWF AoS Pet Thread. Accordingly, we have submitted a photo of our sibling gray and white cats that we adopted 7 years ago as kittehs. The one with the white mask is a boy named Ed, his sister is Ellie but more commonly is called Bellie for an obvious reason - as their veterinarian told us, "some kittehs are just large". Ed weighs 16 or so pounds, Bellie comes in at a healthy 19 or 20, thus we travel about with nearly 40 lbs of sublime feline felicity. They act more like dogs than cats in that they play, know their name and like people. Ed is the momma's boy and somehow Bellie has attached herself to me. We realize these 2 may outlive us given house cats may live to be 20 years old. - taratko

Cats that like people? Cats that know their names? I want to take you with me to the casino then. What a cute pair of kittehs. Thanks for your support and thank you for taking the time to share with us their stories.


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The three amigos.
Rocky, Max and Miles. Rocky is our 12 year old Yorkie. Max was our freakishly large Pomeranian. 18 lbs. He left us about 3 years ago. He was 11 years old and was a great dog. Miles is our 5 year old Briard. I have sent a picture of him in the past. - Kevin

Thanks for the photo of the 3 Amigos. That is quite the photo! If you are around today tell us about the grooming that must go on with Miles. Great group. Thanks.


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Thanks to everyone who submitted photos of their loved ones and their stories. A great looking group as usual.

Seems the cat people were out full force this week. Just the way the emails come in.

Would you like to submit something to the AoS Pet Thread, hit us up at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Thanks again for stopping by. Have a great week!

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1 Hola amogos.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:03 PM (gC2IV)

2 Happy Caterday everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 03:03 PM (BbGew)

3 Good looking critters today.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:03 PM (gC2IV)

4 I saw on twitter that Dave in Texas lost his beagle this week. Old age, I think.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:07 PM (gC2IV)

5 We are unimaginably heartbroken to announce the loss of our beloved Grumpy Cat," Tabatha Bundesen, Grumpy Cat's owner, said.

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That cat's name wasn't Grumpy Cat.

Imagine Prince making his mom call him Prince.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 03:09 PM (brON7)

6 Nice Pets Ya'll!.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 03:10 PM (Z+IKu)

7 Grumpy cat generated about $100M in revenue.
Incredible.
He died young, but like a lot of pure breds, they have have congenital issues. In Grump's case it shortened his life, but made his owners rich.
Great pet fotos today.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 03:11 PM (w7KSn)

8 Also, if you're studying the effects of dog pee on cities, you have too much time on your hands.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:11 PM (gC2IV)

9 Ah, I looked.

Tard.

Grumpy Cat's name is Tard.

I can see why the multimillionaire might be reluctant to announce Tard's death using Tard's real name.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 03:11 PM (brON7)

10 Afternoon All,

Got a new puppy a week & a half ago, & I'm taaaaaahrd.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 03:13 PM (LMcFk)

11 Clarification: Not 'tard.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 03:16 PM (LMcFk)

12 Our eight-year-old 30lb Lab-and-somethingorantother (border collie?) is having problems with her left rear leg. She'll rarely put weight on it. Vet checked it out, no 'drawer sign' ($3000 surgery to rearrange the mating of the bones, been there done that twice on one of her predecessors), no evident pain, no lumps or bumps or anything broken or any evidence of anything really wrong, vet assumed it's something arthritic but a week of pain medication doesn't seem to have helped.

Time for X-rays later this week.

Posted by: JEM at May 18, 2019 03:18 PM (8erNz)

13 Sorry to hear of Grumpy Cat's death - 7 seems awfully young.
Re: cat names. Over the years I've had Mackenzie, Tarbaby, Nemo and Pippin. Never owned a dog, though. Don't know if it's genetic (as the Swedes have it) or if I just couldn't be bothered with the walking and the scooping.

Posted by: Annalucia at May 18, 2019 03:18 PM (S6ArX)

14 Also, if you're studying the effects of dog pee on cities, you have too much time on your hands.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:11 PM (gC2IV)


Ahem! - San Francisco

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 03:21 PM (aS1PU)

15 Don't know if it's genetic (as the Swedes have it) or if I just couldn't be bothered with the walking and the scooping.

There are people who can put up with being hounded out of bed at 530AM seven days a week to feed them, and there are people who can't. There are people reconciled to having their faces licked with dogfood breath once they come back in from doing their business outside, and there are people who are not.

I'm proud to say we've converted two of my wife's sisters and a number of my daughter's friends' families into dog people.

Posted by: JEM at May 18, 2019 03:21 PM (8erNz)

16 lurker submissions are greaaaat! happy pet day!

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 18, 2019 03:22 PM (DGS6j)

17 Pets!

Posted by: m at May 18, 2019 03:22 PM (Scps5)

18 Great pets this week.

One of our Garden Kitties, Smokey Mama, had an abcess under her chin and had to have surgery. Was mostly shaved and had a drain installed for a few days. Took off The Cone of Shame by herself.

She is almost tame. We met her when she had kittens on our porch.

She is lively, but looks absolutely horrible. Has to have the wound cleaned with warm water on a washrag three times a day still. Still has stitches. Hanging out on the refrigerator in the garage.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:22 PM (BVQ+1)

19 Yay, I'm awake. Boo, grandkidlets are here. Old Dog and New Old dog are unhappy because for some reason the grandkids have been especially 'bouncy' and I have been yelling and using the 'N' word a lot (for those not aware, the real 'N' word is 'NO'). Poor old dogs figure they must have done something wrong. Unsettling for all of us.

Anyway, we have been saving our pennies for Old Dog's almost inevitable tumor surgery. He has had fatty tumors for years, but now they are getting more worrisome/noticeable. So far, peeing and pooping normally, but we both worry so want to be ahead of anything else growing.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 03:24 PM (MIKMs)

20

I'm pretty sure there's nothing worse than a soil microbiome that's less diverse.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 03:24 PM (aKsyK)

21
Delilah was Best of Opposite Sex just now at our National Specialty. Much better than we expected; Her Majesty thought Award of Merit, maybe. Well done, that girl!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2019 03:26 PM (X3lUd)

22 How would I ever catch JJ's EMT if the dogs didn't roust me to feed them?

Posted by: JEM at May 18, 2019 03:26 PM (8erNz)

23 Grumpy Cat's real name was Tardar Sauce. While it was complications from a UTI that killed her, she also had feline dwarfism, which is what gave her her famous face.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 03:26 PM (KpItb)

24 Lovely pets this week.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 03:27 PM (pAkRe)

25 Great Pet Thread again, Mis Hum!

Such a nice group of Pet Morons this week. No matter the critter, the owners know they are blessed.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 18, 2019 03:28 PM (RkS3d)

26

I ain't no ways Tard.

Posted by: Grumpy Hillary at May 18, 2019 03:29 PM (aKsyK)

27 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2019 03:26 PM (X3lUd)

Opposite of what? Congratulations! It just sounds like a funny title, but I don't know anything about showing dogs, so maybe they have some other amusing names too?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 03:29 PM (ahS0B)

28 Congratulations Delilah!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 18, 2019 03:30 PM (RkS3d)

29 Cats-
Ajax, Artemis, Phoebus, Telemacus (Teli), Hector, Brisei,
Persephone. Don't know why.

Posted by: davo at May 18, 2019 03:33 PM (sMLEE)

30 why are dogs loyal? because canines are pack animals.

so, basically, they are like the borg - and see you as incorporated into the borg. resistance is futile!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 18, 2019 03:33 PM (Pg+x7)

31 Was Grumpy Cat living the Rock and Roll lifestyle?
Sure was a shooting star.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 18, 2019 03:34 PM (RuIsu)

32 *Briseis

Posted by: davo at May 18, 2019 03:35 PM (sMLEE)

33 The Motley Crue photo is amazing. With the alert and attentive talent shown there I doubt much ever gets past them. Are they barkers or more silent observers of life? For sure, they are lucky doggies to be living with you.

Posted by: corn and beans at May 18, 2019 03:35 PM (tkNkP)

34 Grumpycat had UTI and feline dwarfism.
Some cats just don't have long life spans.
I had a cat once, it was the cutest thing, adopted it as a kitten. Anyway, it had a congenital defect, the vet told me the name, but it forgot it. Cuteaneous something or other.
Basically the cat's skin was like paper, it tore easily. I had to have the cat stitched up any number of times. It died at 6 years.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 03:38 PM (w7KSn)

35 Dog pee is a bit hard on city soil/grass what a surprise. Said no one who ever had a smallish lawn and a dog. But big whoop. Exposure to dog dander is actually good for kids, they are less likely to develop allergies and asthma IIRC, plus the huge mental health benefits dogs bring to their owners. I'm sure the small hurt to urban flora is more than offset.

Besides the commies are bringing back the days of people using any random patch of ground as a toilet with all the real risks of disease that entails. They can sit down and shut up until they (re)fix that issue.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 03:38 PM (pAkRe)

36 Grumpy Cat's name is Tard.

I think his full name was Tardar Sauce.

Also I think Romeo from the top picture is way more awesome.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 03:39 PM (fuK7c)

37 "There are people who can put up with being hounded out of bed at 530AM
seven days a week to feed them, and there are people who can't."
I raised 5 children, so I had all the early-morning alarums I needed without acquiring any dogs :-/

Posted by: Annalucia at May 18, 2019 03:40 PM (S6ArX)

38 So what are some of the names you have named your pets over the years and why?


No really off-the-wall names for any of my pets, but I have a cousin that will not name a pet until he gets a feel for its personality: Hoppy (cat could jump higher than any cat I've ever seen) , Sly (great at stealing from plates, off the counter, etc.), Siren (noisy/vocal), etc.


He also used to have a Siamese cat he named "Shithead".

Posted by: Bert G at May 18, 2019 03:41 PM (OMsf+)

39 Grumpy Cat spoke for all of us!

#metoo

Posted by: Every cat everywhere at May 18, 2019 03:42 PM (EZebt)

40 Grumpy Cat's dwarfism was why they named it Tard.

Grumpy Cat's celebrity is why they decided they needed to change it to Tardar Sauce.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 03:42 PM (brON7)

41
Grumpy Cat died one night
Died in his bed
Bottle of whiskey
Sleeping tablets by his head

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:43 PM (gC2IV)

42 Happy Caturday! From Bluebird of Bitterness, the Armed Forces Day Caturday edition:

https://tinyurl.com/y55kbl92

The humans in these photos look like mostly Army and Marine Corps personnel, but I'm sure there are kittehs serving proudly with their humans in the Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard.

Anyway, a big thank you to all morons who served or are serving in the Armed Forces of the U.S. (and those in Canada, which celebrates Armed Forces Day on the first Sunday in June).

And if you approve of honoring the troops on the third Caturday in May, thank the CiC: "On 19 May 2017, President Donald Trump reaffirmed the Armed Forces Day holiday, marking the 70th anniversary since the creation of the Department of Defense."

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 03:44 PM (pPNCa)

43 Dog pee is a bit hard on city soil/grass what a
surprise. Said no one who ever had a smallish lawn and a dog. But big
whoop. Exposure to dog dander is actually good for kids, they are less
likely to develop allergies and asthma IIRC, plus the huge mental health
benefits dogs bring to their owners. I'm sure the small hurt to urban
flora is more than offset.



Besides the commies are bringing back the days of people using any
random patch of ground as a toilet with all the real risks of disease
that entails. They can sit down and shut up until they (re)fix that
issue.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 03:38 PM (pAkRe)

Pick up after your dog or get fined.
Pick up after yourself? No worries.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 03:45 PM (KpItb)

44 your dog going potty may effect the environment

"May affect." Or "may have an effect upon."

pic c/o Bookworm:
http://bit.ly/grammar-cops

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Crappy news in Tulsa. Law office broken into, and intruders sicced their dog on the office cat, fatally. Pretty cat. Link in nic.
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Springtime!

Night before last, I heard a sudden noise on the front porch, cats jumping off the folding chair, or something. Went out to investigate, and saw Spirit and Charlie looking at the pots on the front porch.

Looking behind the pots, I heard a little rustling noise and I (with flashlight) saw the end of the snake tail. By the time I found the head of the thing, it was starting to slither in the front door.

Sinuous story short, I killed it. Felt kinda bad because I didn't identify it first, and I don't think it was pizon, but it sure was long. And it was dark. And I'd just had to chase it out of the doorway. Filled with troglodytic killer lust.

Good kitties. Thanks for alerting me.
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Not sure if there's any connection with Spirit bringing in a dead mouse last night.

Uh... good kitty. Sort-of.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for sad story at May 18, 2019 03:45 PM (NsI03)

45 Cat names over the years: Snooger Bot, Samantha, Shear Palm ( a take on Sher Kahn, as he was grumpy and lashed out when startled), Myfanwi (Irish for refuses to pee in the box) aka Piss Bitch, Tokyo Rose ( best damned siamese cat ive ever been graced to share a house with and boy did he put the Piss Bitch in her place), Buggy ( a young siamese kitteh we got when the Piss Bitch passed to keep Tokyo company), MegaRoy (yuuuge Main Coon ), and Splotchy.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at May 18, 2019 03:45 PM (VcFUs)

46 Leftover train song link Los Lobos;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBqrqRDW1Ug

Posted by: DaveA at May 18, 2019 03:46 PM (FhXTo)

47
Opposite of what?

*polite cough*

In Breed competition, the judge makes the following awards

Best of Breed
Best of Winners (best non-champion)
Best of Opposite Sex (to the Best of Breed)
Select Dog
Select Bitch
Awards of Merit may also be given.

So a dog (a male) was the best entry and Delilah was, so to speak, second. Still, quite a win.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2019 03:47 PM (X3lUd)

48 How can we be sure all the dog pee isn't partially from humans in these large cities?

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 03:48 PM (BbGew)

49 Fantastic Motley Crue photo!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Live! And in color! at May 18, 2019 03:49 PM (Z216Q)

50 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2019 03:47 PM (X3lUd)

Thanks; That's helpful for those of us who don't know about show dogs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2019 03:50 PM (ahS0B)

51 The trick is to search for Tard the grumpy cat back around 2010 or 11 btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 03:53 PM (brON7)

52 Has anyone done a study on human pee on city soil?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2019 03:56 PM (vV/gB)

53 51: That would be quite a feat, if he was only 7 yesterday when he died. Was this a 2nd Grumpy cat?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 03:57 PM (pAkRe)

54 How can we be sure all the dog pee isn't partially from humans in these large cities?

UC Davis (are you surprised it's a California vet school?) has a veterinary forensics laboratory that could doubtless identify the species that produced the pee. "As part of one of the largest animal DNA testing laboratories in the world, VGL Forensics provides forensic DNA testing services to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies as well as to the general public."

https://tinyurl.com/y5bd2uft

They even have a Canine CODIS database to help stop dogfighting.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 03:57 PM (pPNCa)

55 48: You can't. I have seen plenty of men pissing on the sidewalks of NYC.

Anyway, the pet morons are a stunning group. I had a "freakishly large" Pomeranian once. I attribute it to his having been neutered young (prior to being available to buyers), he seemed to have a prolonged growth period, we called him the capom.

Posted by: Pussy head putch in stupid hats at May 18, 2019 04:01 PM (U7k5w)

56 Scruffy and Butter Bean have been enjoying the back porch sans rain. The wife is amazed at my ability to tame Scruffy and is flabbergasted that both Butter Bean and Scruffy have become BFF.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2019 04:02 PM (vV/gB)

57 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48308638
Grumpy the cat died

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 04:04 PM (BbGew)

58 Hey, MH! How was the Bloomberg commencement speech? I'm sure it was all about orange man bad, kids are smarter than their parents, the sky is falling, and "look at me...I used to be a Republican and now am a Democrat" (never mind that he was a Democrat before....).

Posted by: ERF at May 18, 2019 04:04 PM (NxG7K)

59 Stupid sock.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 04:05 PM (U7k5w)

60
Oh can't you see it belongs to me

My poor heart aches

For that piece of cake

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 04:07 PM (TAmPV)

61 Grumpy Cat died one night
Died in his bed
Bottle of whiskey
Sleeping tablets by his head
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 18, 2019 03:43 PM (gC2IV)

Hahaha! Now that's funny!

Bad Company will never be the same now........

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 04:10 PM (Z+IKu)

62 I find it difficult to accept that there is a "dog owning" gene or genes.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 04:15 PM (U7k5w)

63 I'm waiting for the Transgender Outrage Machine cats (aka TOM cats) to claw the humans on this thread who misgendered Grumpy Cat. Grumpy Cat was a female kitteh.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 04:15 PM (pPNCa)

64 Love that doggy Motley Crew

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:16 PM (aCNZ6)

65 I think this has been a rough week for Horde pet people. During the week, some talk about their loss, but don't bring it over to the Pet Thread (yet). Just keep all Horde Pets in our thoughts and prayers. Sometimes we can't talk about it.

Thinking about all who have lost this week.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 04:16 PM (MIKMs)

66 My Cinnamon is hanging in at 18 years old.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 04:17 PM (BbGew)

67 2 of our cats are brothers from a stray mama. For some reason Lenny and Squiggy. (from the Laverne and Shirley show) came to me when I named them. I guess it's because they're both so goofy.

Posted by: Aud at May 18, 2019 04:17 PM (uBywd)

68 Most of our dogs arrived pre-named. I named my childhood lab mix was Dixie, and the brindle pibble cross was named Ole by my mom(Ole and Lena not Oh lay) Cats. Tuffy and Shy, Miss Hiss, Grover, Syd 'Vicious' named after she got me with razor kitten claws, Sven, Boots.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 04:18 PM (pAkRe)

69 What beautiful petmorons! Thank you for the pet thread, MisHum.

Posted by: Ladyl at May 18, 2019 04:18 PM (TdMsT)

70 Thinking about all who have lost this week.

+1. It has indeed been a bad week for the AoSHQ pet morons.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 04:19 PM (pPNCa)

71 Agnes I too am a dachshund lover! I currently have a chiweenie, part chihuahua and part dachshund.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2019 04:20 PM (dUJdY)

72 Ed and Ellie do not look too impressed about their photo being taken. Although I do note that Ed is in loaf form.


The Three Amigos: Their fur matches! I'm sure Miles gets a boatload of attention wherever he goes.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 04:23 PM (KpItb)

73 Re dog gene -- Ya know, there is only a certain % of the population who could put up with the hair, drool, walkies, and expense. In a Venn, it could be those who could put up with the similar necessary patience for children.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 04:25 PM (MIKMs)

74 I was told Paisley, my rescue, is a lab/husky cross, but I only saw lab. But now that I've seen her compared to other labs, I realize I've been blessed with a big girl.
She's a delight, who occasionally manages to be a pain in the ass.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:25 PM (aCNZ6)

75 That cat's name wasn't Grumpy Cat.

Imagine Prince making his mom call him Prince.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines


At least he gave up on "the artist formerly known as Prince" before he became eternally "formerly".

Posted by: mikeski at May 18, 2019 04:27 PM (P1f+c)

76 Romeo cat on top looks unimpressed with something.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:28 PM (aCNZ6)

77 Northernlurker.. didn't you just recently adopt her? My memory isn't what it was.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2019 04:29 PM (dUJdY)

78
I was told Paisley, my rescue, is a lab/husky cross, but I only saw lab.
=====

Laughing because you will now buy a new heavy-duty vacuum cleaner every year. (Just like most of us suckers.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 04:30 PM (MIKMs)

79 NL, so glad things continue to go well with Paisley.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 04:30 PM (pAkRe)

80 77 Northernlurker.. didn't you just recently adopt her? My memory isn't what it was.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2019 04:29 PM (dUJdY)

I've had her about six weeks.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:32 PM (aCNZ6)

81 I've never been to Arkansas before. They have really nice rest areas. Top notch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2019 04:32 PM (WNZ0g)

82 Glad it's working out Northernlurker. Our pets can bring such joy to our lives.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2019 04:36 PM (dUJdY)

83 there are AoS FB groups?

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at May 18, 2019 04:36 PM (dm05u)

84 We here at Casa Mayhem adopted a kitty last fall. Girl spawn really wanted a pet and SIL found one on her porch. No idea where it came from just showed up. Her pitbulls will murder any cat so she called me to save the little black kitty. I'm not really an animal person but girl spawn. . So yeh we got a porch kitty. I dont do critters in the house.
Porch kitty was named Pax because she was just such a peaceful ball of fur. Loves to be a lap kitty.
It turns out, Pax is an assassin. Stone cold killer of any small creature that gets her attention. We lost count of how many mice have been murdered. The last few weeks she has outdone herself. She murdered a squirrel, a chipmunk and trotted up with a small garter snake dangling from her mouth. It was not dead and being smarter than the rodents, when she dropped it it just did not move. She got bored and forgot about it. Little snake lived to tell his friends about porch kitty assassin from hell.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 18, 2019 04:38 PM (myjNJ)

85 Or 2012 I guess since Tard was 7.

Also calendars are racist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 04:39 PM (BYgf5)

86 there are AoS FB groups?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at May 18, 2019 04:36 PM (dm05u)

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Not for long.

Posted by: Zuck at May 18, 2019 04:39 PM (WNZ0g)

87 73 Re dog gene -- Ya know, there is only a certain % of the population who could put up with the hair, drool, walkies, and expense. In a Venn, it could be those who could put up with the similar necessary patience for children.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 04:25 PM (MIKMs)


Pets are easier than children at times

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 04:39 PM (aA3+G)

88 In my defense I know very few specific dates and other details about the death or ages of any famous cats.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 04:41 PM (BYgf5)

89 Wait - are they saying genetics can influence behavior?

They must denounce themselves immediately. They obviously have not considered the ramifications of that assertion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 04:42 PM (1tY1L)

90 Every now and then I check out a comic strip called Breaking Cat News. Cat lovers may like it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:43 PM (aCNZ6)

91 Pets are easier than children at times

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Oh goodness yes. People are encouraged to train their dogs to stay in cages when you leave for work.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 04:43 PM (BYgf5)

92 Her pitbulls will murder any cat so she called me to save the little black kitty.

Pitbulls are nice.

Not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 04:45 PM (1tY1L)

93 91 Pets are easier than children at times

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Oh goodness yes. People are encouraged to train their dogs to stay in cages when you leave for work.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 04:43 PM


I can get a dog to sit on command.... my kids? Yeh, not so much.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 18, 2019 04:45 PM (myjNJ)

94 Pets are easier than children at times

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Oh goodness yes. People are encouraged to train their dogs to stay in cages when you leave for work.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 04:43 PM (BYgf5

Paisley came kennel trained. She usually obeys when I tell her to go to her house.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:46 PM (aCNZ6)

95 Well maybe I should say Paisley obeys but she can be whiney about it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:48 PM (aCNZ6)

96 It turns out, Pax is an assassin. Stone cold killer of any small creature that gets her attention. We lost count of how many mice have been murdered. The last few weeks she has outdone herself. She murdered a squirrel, a chipmunk and trotted up with a small garter snake dangling from her mouth.

Pfft. Check out "Ratting with terriers:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNFGLRR27EA

They say they nailed 700 rats that day.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 04:49 PM (1tY1L)

97 What great pet photos! But the dachshunds capture my heart. Our family pet for 16 years was a miniature red dachshund. Gretel was completely spoiled and the queen of the household, which she considered only proper.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 04:51 PM (bmdz3)

98 It turns out, Pax is an assassin. Stone cold
killer of any small creature that gets her attention. We lost count of
how many mice have been murdered. The last few weeks she has outdone
herself. She murdered a squirrel, a chipmunk and trotted up with a small
garter snake dangling from her mouth.



Pfft. Check out "Ratting with terriers:"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNFGLRR27EA



They say they nailed 700 rats that day.


Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 04:49 PM

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The wife's mixed breed dog Maggie is a bird killer. Her body count is over 20 now. Not sure how she does it but she kills birds and leaves them laying there.


The wife puts bait out there in the form of bird feeders.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 04:51 PM (JUOKG)

99 Pitbulls are nice.

Not.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

These two are really friendly to people but hate cats. They also didn't tolerate the neighbors white turkeys wandering over to say hello. It looked like the yard was covered with snow for days that summer with those dead turkey feathers all over the place.
I'm probably awful for laughing my ass off about that.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 18, 2019 04:52 PM (myjNJ)

100 As mentioned before, the grandkids have been wild as bedamned this week and I have been yelling the 'N' word ('NO') way too much recently. Yelling 'Time Out' has both old dogs going to the crate -- when they have not been doing anything wrong. It is very hard on them because they really like their kids and take it very personally when the kids misbehave.

I have to figure a way out of this without the valuable tool of 'time out' for the dogs.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 04:53 PM (MIKMs)

101 Paisley is a stone cold plastic peanut butter jar assassin.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:54 PM (aCNZ6)

102 It turns out, Pax is an assassin.

I hope porch kitty takes care of porch pirates as well as other critters. Package thefts went up 25% in my area last year, mostly because the mayor (a female of color or FOC) cut the size of the city police force.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 04:54 PM (pPNCa)

103 The wife's mixed breed dog Maggie is a bird killer. Her body count is over 20 now. Not sure how she does it but she kills birds and leaves them laying there.

I don't have any problem with birds, but I hate rats, and have no sympathy for them.

But notice that the dogs are having a whale of a time. This is the most fun they can imagine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 04:55 PM (1tY1L)

104 I hope porch kitty takes care of porch pirates as well as other critters. Package thefts went up 25% in my area last year, mostly because the mayor (a female of color or FOC) cut the size of the city police force.
Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 04:54 PM (pPNCa)


Now there's a coinky dink.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 04:56 PM (1tY1L)

105 The name Pax seems to clash with a profession as an assassin.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 04:56 PM (aCNZ6)

106 was told Paisley, my rescue, is a lab/husky cross, but I only saw lab.
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I had that mix once. You have some great years coming up. The conniving, mischievous sneakiness of the husky combined with the goofy awkwardness of a lab is hilarious to live with.

And expect her to lay in every mud puddle when it's hot. Also her water dish.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 04:58 PM (BYgf5)

107 She was just a wee ball of purring fur when she was named.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 18, 2019 04:59 PM (myjNJ)

108 Now there's a coinky dink.

Tell me about it. She also raised property taxes while downsizing the LEOs. If only we could send her to Baltimore-- she'd be right at home there. I don't know whether she "writes" children's books, but she doubtless has other grifting skills.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 05:00 PM (pPNCa)

109 Paisley is a stone cold plastic peanut butter jar assassin.
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Milk jugs -- with the cat getting dibs on the ring for the top.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 18, 2019 05:04 PM (MIKMs)

110 Wait. There's a Swedish Twin Registry and I'm only now finding out about it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 05:07 PM (+y/Ru)

111 Doesn't pax mean peace?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 05:07 PM (BYgf5)

112 Mayhem, you will have to watch Pax for abscesses on her legs if she goes after snakes. But her being a mouser will reduce snake population around your house as well as the mice. Very nice side benefit to you of taking her.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 05:12 PM (pAkRe)

113 Florida Manatee Orgy Near Tampa Bay Highway Causes World's Most Awkward Traffic Jam

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Whoa! Talk about bumping uglies!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 05:13 PM (+y/Ru)

114 Doesn't pax mean peace?

Yes, it's the Latin word for peace. It's also the airlines' abbreviation for passengers, as in "there are 250 pax on the flight." (Full disclosure-- I learned that from a cousin who's a captain with American Airlines.)

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 05:14 PM (pPNCa)

115 I shouldn't say you will have to watch for abscesses. I don't think I ever caught one until the cat had licked the spot bald and I could see the big lump. It was only after him getting one every couple years that I caught him playing with a snake Before that I was always thinking "how does he get in a fight and only get one bite on a paw?"

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 05:16 PM (pAkRe)

116 The Ugly Dachshund was one of my favorite Disney movies.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:17 PM (2DOZq)

117 The pee study is a bunch of bull shit. It's like the effect of a drop of oil in a swimming pool. Where do they think wild animals piss? Are our forest floors like concrete?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:19 PM (2DOZq)

118 "So what are some of the names you have named your pets over the years and why?"

I had a GSD named Boris. Boris the doggy. After Boris the Spider. We had a cat named Peanut, because she liked boiled peanuts.

A guy I used to work for had a GSD named Rommel. That's a good name for a GSD.

Posted by: Uncle Sam at May 18, 2019 05:20 PM (UdKB7)

119 The Ugly Dachshund was one of my favorite Disney movies.

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Grew up to be a froo froo French poodle?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (+y/Ru)

120 Coming soon to San Francisco and Seattle. You must have your dog wear a diaper to protect the soil.


Homeless people are still allowed to piss and shit on the streets though.

Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2019 05:22 PM (Z7lwY)

121 oops off Samsock

Posted by: freaked at May 18, 2019 05:22 PM (UdKB7)

122 A guy I used to work for had a GSD named Rommel. That's a good name for a GSD.


Posted by: Uncle Sam at May 18, 2019 05:20 PM (UdKB7)

My brother had a pit bull named Rommel.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:22 PM (KpItb)

123 My brother had a pit bull named Rommel.

And did any of his neighbors get one named Monty?

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (pPNCa)

124 Grew up to be a froo froo French poodle?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 05:21 PM (+y/Ru)

You havent seen it? it was a Great Dane puppy mixed in with a litter of dachshunds.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (2DOZq)

125 Our dog Ole was a snake killer. The hog snake (look like a small bullsnake) did the play dead and maybe survived. Not sure how wounded it was, Ole grabbed things and shook them like a rat terrier would do. Nabbed a couple prairie dogs, couple skunks (and of course got sprayed every time) and a few bull snakes. I hated the snake killing and would try to grab the dog before he got the snake, saved a few to keep up mice control under haystacks.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (pAkRe)

126 My brother had a pit bull named Rommel.




And did any of his neighbors get one named Monty?


Posted by: Basement Cat at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (pPNCa)

As far as I know, no.

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:24 PM (KpItb)

127 That ratting video explains SO much about dogs and squeeky toys...

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I ain't recommending shit at the moment at May 18, 2019 05:25 PM (lLeln)

128 Since we're past 100 and Disney was mentioned:

It's hilarious how grrrl powerey they've become. We just started one on TV and within the first five minutes a group of a half dozen 8th or 9th grade boys were racing and the one girl who stepped up to run not only beat them all but came from the back to win in the last 10th of the course.

It's like waking up to Woke. Once you see it you'll never unsee it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 05:25 PM (BYgf5)

129 "one girl who stepped up to run not only beat them all but came from the back to win in the last 10th of the course. "

That's a man, baby.

Posted by: freaked at May 18, 2019 05:26 PM (UdKB7)

130 Chess thread is up

Posted by: Vendette at May 18, 2019 05:26 PM (KpItb)

131 I name all my pets after food.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 05:27 PM (BYgf5)

132 Dogs Playing Chess would be another iconic painting.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:27 PM (2DOZq)

133 Robbie, so dumb isn't it? I mean if it was 9 year olds, rather than 9th graders it could be accurate, girls often have an edge via maturing a bit faster, but post puberty, fuhgetaboutit.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 05:29 PM (pAkRe)

134 By Law, every 3rd Male Rottweiler has to be named Rommel.


Just like every 3rd Bunny is named Taffy.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (S4lAP)

135 Taffy? never thought or heard of it. Fluffy and Bugs, but Taffy is new to me.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 05:31 PM (pAkRe)

136
Dogs Playing Chess would be another iconic painting.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation


Cats knocking the pieces off the board.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 05:31 PM (aKsyK)

137 couple skunks (and of course got sprayed every time)

We had a mutt that might have included collie, German shepherd, and corgi, plus whatever brand has the most hair. The dog had lots of hair. She was old and lazy so much that she'd just lie down in the snow and be happy.

Well, one day she got skunked. Like full on right in the chest fur from two feet away skunked.

I kind of like the smell of skunk. It's nature. When it's a mile away. Up close like that it's chemical warfare.

Dog got all the shampoo and all the tomato juice and still didn't understand why she had to sleep in the breezeway for a week.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (fuK7c)

138 Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (fuK7c)

Skunk smell is like a painful loose tooth you can't stop messing with with your tongue.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 05:39 PM (2DOZq)

139 21 -- Hadrian -- Congratulations! I know how hard you and Her Majesty work to make your borzois the best.

Some time, you've got to send in pictures so we can all see how gorgeous your dogs are.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 18, 2019 05:46 PM (ebZss)

140 My German Shepard's registered name was Bjarne Catslapper. We told the kitties is was a bad idea to slap him as a puppy

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 18, 2019 05:55 PM (Lqy/e)

141 Pfft. Check out "Ratting with terriers:"



Send a copy of that to AG Barr.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing relevance at May 18, 2019 06:07 PM (QzkSJ)

142 Dog got all the shampoo and all the tomato juice and still didn't understand why she had to sleep in the breezeway for a week.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2019 05:33 PM (fuK7c)


Use hydrogen peroxide, with a bit of baking soda (as a buffer) and some dishwashing detergent. Wash Fido thoroughly with that. Skunk smell is gone in two minutes.

I did that with our pup, and my wife was dead impressed. Better living through chemistry.

(For those who are interested - which is probably no one! - the hydrogen peroxide oxidizes mercaptans up to disulfides or possibly sulfinic acids, neither of which are very volatile. The detergent is there to emulsify the oxidation products so they can be rinsed out.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 06:23 PM (1tY1L)

143 141 Pfft. Check out "Ratting with terriers:"

Send a copy of that to AG Barr.
Posted by: Miklos, seeing relevance at May 18, 2019 06:07 PM (QzkSJ)


Actually, I previously sent that to CBD with the subject line "metaphor alert."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 06:24 PM (1tY1L)

144 Except for his eye color, Romeo looks exactly like my Ghost.

Posted by: Empire1 at May 18, 2019 07:00 PM (PztJx)

Saturday Gardening Thread, May 18 [KT]

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Admirale's mate sent in the gorgeous photo of a tulip above from Andover, Massachusetts. Love it.

Memorial Day is coming up, but we are still having some weather in parts of the country. Thinking about a trip? Also today, a butterfly migration besides monarchs and lots of photos from The Horde.

Weather

Don in Kansas saw this on his way to work last week.

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There's a lot of flooding in the region -- I see a "flash flood" warning every time I check the weather -- but so far it hasn't directly affected me, and the rains have stopped for the moment here.

Take a look at his more recent posts, too. He has some nice cacti up. And he reminds us that today is World Fiddle Day. Fun.

Let us know if you are facing a challenge like flooding.

We have had unusual rains here in the San Joaquin Valley and it is a little chilly. How are things where you are?

They have had some cold weather in Europe this month, too. This is how they keep Italian grape vines from freezing.

Pretty. But what about the carbon dioxide? Probably helps the vines grow, in addition to protecting them from frost.

Travel

At the end of April, Tailgunnersam a lurker saw weather like this in Chicago:

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And sent these photos:

Was just at Gettysburg and this photo of the Devil's Den from Little Round Top shows some lovely flowers.

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These are flowers on the field of Pickett's Charge.

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I asked if the fence was similar to one that was there during the war:

Yes that fence was put up by the American Battle Field trust to match what was present in July 1863. The guide called it a worm fence and it is when you have more wood and want to put up a fence with less work. And they would be knocked by troops. Here's Matthew Brady's Gettysburg photo of three confederate prisoners.

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So interesting. A trip to consider as Memorial Day approaches.

Photography

Dr_No says these are peonies, photoshopped to alter the pink color and the mood. Do they look like peonies to you?

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A couple of closeups from crisis du jour. Care to try an I.D.?

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Butterfly migrations

The Western population of Monarch Butterflies typically leaves their coastal wintering grounds in late February or early March. I haven't seen any come through yet. I don't most years, at home. Sometimes when visiting the foothills I will see a few. Have you seen any Monarchs yet?

Here's a video of Monarchs in the larger Mexican wintering grounds. There are so many of them that you can sometimes hear a Monarch waterfall when they begin to stir in the morning. Start at 3:30 to listen.

I HAVE seen lots of Painted Ladies. Especially last week when we were stuck in construction traffic, and butterflies were crossing the highway to reach weeds on the other side of the road, and a couple of weeks ago at church, where they were particularly enamored of the Rhaphiolepsis bushes.

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The migration of Painted Ladies from the Southern deserts through Southern California northward toward the Pacific Northwest is said to be the biggest this year since 2005. The migration that year was estimated to be in the billions. I'm not sure that the NBC report that the only wintering grounds for Painted Ladies are in Western Texas and Mexico. But like some of their relatives, they don't go dormant in winter and can't take freezing weather. They make to to most parts of the USA and Canada during the summer. There is a smaller southward migration in fall.

They started showing up in coastal Southern California in March. They can fly 25 miles per hour.


Butterflies At Home
has a nice little summary on Painted Ladies, including a guide on how to distinguish them from American Ladies. I like the furry parts of the open wings near the Painted Lady's body.

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I think the underwing is also intriguing. So different from the upper wing.

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If you buy a kit to grow your own butterflies at home, they are likely to be Painted Ladies, whose caterpillars are not very particular about what they eat. If you find a caterpillar on a hollyhock, a legume or on weeds like thistle or mallow, you can bring them in and watch them turn into butterflies. The little spines are harmless. They usually start out darker than this when small. Often seen where a hollyhock leaf meets the stem, with some webbing.

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You may also be interested in the useful chart of common orange butterflies. Ever seen a Goatweed Leafwing? You can also see the difference between a Question Mark and an Eastern Comma. The page on butterflies (and some moths) of Texas is also very nice.

If you want to grow some Painted Lady caterpillars and don't have enough weeds in your yard, here's a refresher on growing hollyhocks and using alpaca poop in the garden.

Gardens of The Horde

You know those Amaryllis (Hippeasturm) bulbs that people buy for Christmas gifts? Well, if you plant them out here in the San Joaquin Valley, this is about the time of year that they bloom. Actually, they are probably a little late this year because of the generally cooler spring weather (with a few hot days). We had some rain this week! Seems so strange after those years of drought.

These are across the street from me. They stand out from a distance. I like this dramatic size in containers. I generally prefer the slightly smaller ones in the landscape. Though these fit among the dwarf Pittosporum and Agapanthus (for summer bloom) near them.

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The famous Pat* in Idaho sent in a photo and a report:

We're having a few days of chilly rain in the Treasure Valley. This is a photo from just a week ago, of those beautifully scented lily of the valley bells I love so much.

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Do you think this flower from 40 miles north is a daylily or a tiger lily?

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We appreciate the photos we have waiting for next week. If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you want to remain a lurker.

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1 I got nuting.

Posted by: Paladin at May 18, 2019 01:03 PM (K541N)

2 nothing. Picked up 10 bags of mulch , fencing for the wife. Now finishing off a beer at Twin Peaks. After wings and ogling.

Posted by: Paladin at May 18, 2019 01:07 PM (K541N)

3 Paladin at May 18, 2019 01:07 PM

So, you've got plans.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:10 PM (BVQ+1)

4 Closups look like spirea and azaleas, mine are in bloom now too.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 01:12 PM (U7k5w)

5 agree with CN on photo IDs - I also think the last lily is a day lily rather than a tiger

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 18, 2019 01:13 PM (Rarvo)

6 I did some weeding and cut grass so that the spray has a chance to knock it out in one large bed of tulips and iris. My back wants to be done for the day. Perhaps I'll prune a bit on the trees later if I decide I must do more landscaping and get the arms agreeing with my back.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 01:14 PM (pAkRe)

7 Don in Ks. has a great eye!

Raining here now (again) but my wife and I got about an hour in the garden. Cold and wet. We need sunshine and heat to get all in gear.
We weeded... and that's about it.
We bought 5 yds of "compost and topsoil mix" this spring. I'd call it screened wood chips and clay instead. The cellulose and hemi-cellulose of the wood is still obviously breaking down, as every seed sprouted in it is nitrogen starved. Won't buy that again.
Caught a swarm of bees Monday, so there's that!

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 01:14 PM (6CvQL)

8 I also love my lilies-of-the-valley for their scent; this part of the season is my best for scent, with those as well as my mock orange in bloom.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 18, 2019 01:14 PM (Rarvo)

9 Good afternoon,
My lupines are blooming beautifully as are the purple monarda plants. Gladiolus are about 9 inches tall, another liatris that I grew from corms , are looking great. I also noted my first rosebud of the season on a Madame Plantier shrub.It's been a great growing season, my patio tomatoes are fruiting up as well.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 01:16 PM (U7k5w)

10 MarkY at May 18, 2019 01:14 PM

Yes, he does. We have several fine photographers featured today.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:17 PM (BVQ+1)

11 "I asked Vic if the fence was similar to one that was there during the war"
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Corrected.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 01:20 PM (kQs4Y)

12 We have several fine photographers featured today.

Generally, every week!

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 01:20 PM (6CvQL)

13 That Brady photo is memorable for me. When in high school, I had a book of Brady's war photos and this was my favorite.

Where do you think those guys were born? I always liked to think they were Georgians.

Look at the outfits, the boots, bedrolls, hats, beards. The guy on the left with his bandolier, cartridges still on board. His tin cup, plus the knife the Feds let him keep, is all he needs for eating and drinking.

But look at the poses, the expressions. Gettysburg is just one battle they fnought in and survived.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 18, 2019 01:26 PM (5+4v7)

14 I think that pattern inside the tulip must have something to do with bees.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:29 PM (BVQ+1)

15 MarkY at May 18, 2019 01:14 PM

Where did you catch the swarm of bees, and where did you put them?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:30 PM (BVQ+1)

16 The vegetable garden is all planted, except Zucchinis for some reason. We'll probably get some marigolds and other flowers for around the border

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 01:35 PM (Rz2Nc)

17 I need to take some pics of our back area. Did a lot of work last year (and more this spring) and it's just bursting with color.

Also have herbs, tomatoes and peppers growing in pots. I'm so excited!

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2019 01:39 PM (cF8AT)

18 I should say hubby 'did a lot of work'...I just water everything....

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2019 01:40 PM (cF8AT)

19 We have some itty bitty tomatoes coming in. Yay!

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 01:41 PM (htgmn)

20 Tulip peddling canal wogs.

Posted by: Something once posted at May 18, 2019 01:43 PM (xSo9G)

21 I have always liked Painted Ladies. They seem to tolerate people pretty well.

I think I have seen some in the winter here in the San Joaquin Valley, but they could have been American Ladies, too. I guess.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:46 PM (BVQ+1)

22 Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 01:35 PM

What region are you in?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:47 PM (BVQ+1)

23 When I got feed a couple days ago the local coop had tomatoes and peppers and such. I might mention to dad, but if he wants fresh maters he'll have to water them hisself. Probably easier for him to find a farmers market, I think the local kid that used to sell excess produce growed up and quit doing that.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 01:48 PM (pAkRe)

24 Spent the morning cutting back Virginia Creeper that has enveloped the house. Quite pleasant to look through the back upstairs window greenery...but then you realize that a monster is taking over.

Pic http://tinyurl.com/y3be8ohs

Posted by: Something once posted at May 18, 2019 01:50 PM (CDGwz)

25 Oops. /Something sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 01:50 PM (CDGwz)

26 What region are you in?
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:47 PM (BVQ+1)

6a, central Ohio

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 01:51 PM (Rz2Nc)

27 Gorgeous photos, KT. Great post.

>> is a daylily or a tiger lily
I know I thought it was tiger lily when I bought it, but google searches suggest that I was mistaken.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 01:52 PM (o2vOl)

28 Facing a challenge like flooding?

Not at my place. South end of town might end up with problems. I'm towards the north end,,, 11 blocks away.

A duck did just knock on my front door and ask to borrow an umbrella though.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 01:53 PM (A3w0Q)

29 The irises bloomed here this week, they have been spreading pretty good over the years which is fine with me, but the blooms just don't last too long. They have summer long greenery though with their big leaf stocks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 01:53 PM (r+sAi)

30 Something once posted at May 18, 2019 01:50 PM

Uh-oh. One to be careful with.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:54 PM (BVQ+1)

31 There's a wild hive in a walnut tree at an urban park, that throws 2-3 swarms every year.
They always land on the same shrubbery, and the first will have the mated queen. The subsequent swarms usually have maiden queens.
I kept an empty hive box just for that swarm this year. I'm a third year beekeeper, and not very good at it yet. Lost them all due to mismanagement last year.
Just think, if I were a guvment worker, I'd get a raise!

Most beekeepers like swarms because it brings some genetic diversity into the hive yard.

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 01:57 PM (6CvQL)

32 KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:47 PM

Garden's coming along, then. Good.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:58 PM (BVQ+1)

33 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 01:52 P

Tigerlily colored daylily, I would say.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 01:59 PM (BVQ+1)

34 >> 14 I think that pattern inside the tulip must have
>> something to do with bees.

Yes, the tulip marks three separate Helipads and provides silent air traffic control.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:00 PM (o2vOl)

35 M. Hammer
Is that vine saying "Feed Me!"?

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 02:00 PM (6CvQL)

36 >> A couple of closeups from crisis du jour
Great shots, cdj.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:02 PM (o2vOl)

37 Time to quit stalling and get the grass cut.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 02:04 PM (Rz2Nc)

38 Mark Y,

I love raw honey and have thought about doing the bee thing in the recent past. Will probably have to wait a couple years though.

Between work and the music, I got, got, got, got no time.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 02:05 PM (A3w0Q)

39 >> Butterflies At Home has a nice little summary on Painted Ladies

If I said I was going out to take photos of Painted Ladies, I don't think the announcement would be well-received.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:05 PM (o2vOl)

40 re 1: neither does Slow Joe, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 18, 2019 02:09 PM (ZqRa6)

41 teej,
I joined the local bee club about a year before I bought my first 2.
I also did an all-day beginner bee keeper class.
I spend more time watching them then I do working them... fascinating little critters.

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 02:10 PM (6CvQL)

42 Down in Rogue Valley (Medford Oregon) they used to run oil smudge burners to keep the orchards warm enough to not freeze out the peach and pear flowers when the weather dipped in the Spr___. Unfortunately the valley is a bowl and there was the issue of stagnant air and all the fumes getting trapped in the cold air at ground level, so they went to using natural gas burners. One of the orchards had bought a couple of truckloads of mortar powder cylinders and ammo cans, surplus, and rigged them up as burners with the gas pumped in from a central tank.

Around Salem, Oregon, and up in the Columbia Gorge the issue in cherries, pears and blueberries is that the cold air pools at ground level and will freeze off flowers and buds, so they have giant propane powered fans on pylons that they run when there is a threat of frost, to move and mix the air around.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 02:10 PM (KTmSx)

43 Amazing how many things in nature including flower blooms follow the golden ratio.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

44 re: bees
Also, just about any older beekeeper can stand help at times.
Volunteer to be that helper, and collect in honey!
In our club, probably half the beeks are over 70. Honey harvest time is work!

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 02:11 PM (6CvQL)

45 MarkY at May 18, 2019 01:57 PM

Mr. Bar-the-Door likes bees. He has transferred swarms to boxes before. Sounds like you have a hobby developing there. Let us know how the honey turns out.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:12 PM (BVQ+1)

46 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Just got last of my plants in, Japanese Cucumbers, also have various tomatoes and peppers and dill.
Scaled down a little as last two years have largely been bust.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 02:13 PM (BbGew)

47 My peppers are finally sprouting in the seed tray, and I discovered that the corn that I was trying to plant was so old it was no longer fertile.

I used newer seed and that started sprouting too.

Once I get my squash, peppers, beans and corn in, I am mostly finished with planting.

I bought a dozen donuts in a plastic, clamshell tray, and once I ate the donuts I used the clamshell as a planter for sprouting the peppers.
It is actually cheaper than the seed sprouting kits from the garden store, and I got dounts too.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 02:14 PM (KTmSx)

48 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:05 PM

Probaly not. Better say, "butterfly migration" or something.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:14 PM (BVQ+1)

49 Beautiful pics all.


OT: Pitch Meeting, Star Wars, Ep. IV, A New Hope:

https://youtu.be/NbmBY6plKvI

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 02:15 PM (smc0A)

50 Skip,
Had to look up Jap. cukes.
Let us know what you think! We aren't doing any pickling cukes this year, cause wife made a 2 year supply last year!
MarketMore76 for eating fresh this year, like last.

Posted by: MarkY at May 18, 2019 02:16 PM (6CvQL)

51 Sounds like a wise thing to do, Mark.

I am so looking forward to having the time to get my place looking and producing like my place should,,, Lord willing and the river don't rise.

Work, music, mowing, cooking, laundry is about all I can handle.
And yes, something got left out of that list because,,, honest.

Guess I'd best do some dishes so I can fix some breakfast. So far only a couple of off brand pop tarts.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 02:16 PM (A3w0Q)

52 MarkY at May 18, 2019 02:10 PM

Yes, bees are fascinating. I like that you got involved with a club.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:17 PM (BVQ+1)

53 Biden wants free community college. that makes him a moderate.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 18, 2019 02:18 PM (ZqRa6)

54 Skip at May 18, 2019 02:13 PM

Hope you can put those Japanese cucumbers on a fence or trellis.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:18 PM (BVQ+1)

55 Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 02:11 PM

The golden ratio. Interesting.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:19 PM (BVQ+1)

56 CN at May 18, 2019 01:16 PM

I looked up the Madame Plantier Rose. An Alba. Gorgeous. Never seen it before.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:22 PM (BVQ+1)

57 I always plant my cucumbers on the fence line, they are spaced all around. Tried them a few years back and as not for pickles so wanted to try again. Last two years were bad, to much rain little sun.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 02:22 PM (BbGew)

58 Apple CEO Tim Cook to the class of 2019: My generation has failed you

Ah fuck you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2019 02:25 PM (Y+V3r)

59 Also have all tomatoes in cages, peppers I use those H wire stands realtors use for signs.which I will string the pepper plants to, seems every year a T--storm will come up breaking plants.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 02:26 PM (BbGew)

60 I have barely planted anything. It just won't stop raining here. We had 3 beautiful days this week with sunshine and warm weather. Now it's back to raining. I usually have pots all over the deck and patio. Getting pretty discouraged here.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2019 02:27 PM (dUJdY)

61 Biden just mentioned that we are energy independent. Wonder why.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 18, 2019 02:29 PM (ZqRa6)

62 56: Lovely fragrance too.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 02:30 PM (U7k5w)

63 Only since it wasn't me to bring it up
This is a topography map of Gettysburg done a couple of years after of the battlefield. It shows different kinds of fences, and stone walls. The fences are much more by miles than are there now.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3824g.cw0325000a/

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 02:34 PM (BbGew)

64 All cho cho Biden is doing is mouthIng platitudes that have no relation to reality.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2019 02:35 PM (Y+V3r)

65 16: I love marigolds. I had the grandsons plant a few flats of mixed colors , then we added purple petunias. It looks great.
Today, I had them do peppers, basil, and eggplant.

My only real garden issue is seeing raspberry plants springing up where they shouldn't. I will have to root them up and put them in a better place.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 02:36 PM (U7k5w)

66 Surgery restrictions keep me out of the garden and yard. Back to Dr. Monday and hopeful for loosened restrictions. In the meantime, the ornamental peppers that I started in the Winter were becoming pot bound. Wifey volunteered to pull the pansies and plant the peppers. Thinking they would die before I could get to them, I told her to go ahead. Total of 25 plants. She's doing a good job but slow. Full day invested and a little over half way. Her time so whatever it takes her. Tomatoes went in early and thus far look good. All survived transplanting and are covered in blooms. Now if we can avoid all the fungi, viruses, blights, and pests, maybe decent tomatoes.

Posted by: Agitator at May 18, 2019 02:38 PM (m9DnX)

67 Snowing and raining here today. Temps in the 30s. Staying inside and zoning out.

Posted by: Archer at May 18, 2019 02:39 PM (vzk+c)

68 >> Mr. Bar-the-Door likes bees.
>> He has transferred swarms to boxes before.

Confirmation once again that 'ettes prefer thrill-seekers.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:39 PM (o2vOl)

69 The zig-zag lines are the split rail fences, many of the period were higher but are very stout to get around or take apart. The dotted lines are stone walls, dots and dash are post and rail fences,

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 02:40 PM (BbGew)

70 This morning we planted a Lebanese cucumber, cherry tomatoes, and the second seeding of leaf and romaine lettuce. Two hanging baskets of annual flowers are basking in the sun.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at May 18, 2019 02:41 PM (bmdz3)

71 The picture of Devil's Den is very interesting. I think tge only picture if that spot that almost everyone has ever seen is the one with a dead rebel taken shortly after the battle.

This pic and the Pickett's Charge field pic really helps my brain gain a better understanding of what the field of battle looked like.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 02:42 PM (smc0A)

72 It's hard to believe but Biden has gotten worse on the stump.

If you want a fall down drunk drinking game, watch Biden give a speech and have "folks" as the pour word.

Make sure you got plenty of hooch

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 02:42 PM (DPjeO)

73 Fabulous photos, especially those from Gettysburg.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at May 18, 2019 02:43 PM (bmdz3)

74 61 Biden just mentioned that we are energy independent. Wonder why.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 18, 2019 02:29 PM (ZqRa6)



UNCHAINED !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 02:43 PM (DPjeO)

75 >> I looked up the Madame Plantier Rose
Growing roses is like witchcraft. Bone meal. Fish entrails. Too strange for me.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:46 PM (o2vOl)

76 70: I thought about lettuce, but I belong to a CSA, and tend to get lettuces there. It was the reason that I talked the grandsons out of beans, too. I have to use my credit on something.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 02:46 PM (U7k5w)

77 Time check

Posted by: tbodie at May 18, 2019 02:48 PM (IrbWq)

78 >> Also have all tomatoes in cages

You're way ahead of me. I need to get my seeds going...

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:49 PM (o2vOl)

79 75: I guess it's in the blood. My grandmother was a master rotarian, and I loved being part of all that. I did the bonemeal before the last rain.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 02:50 PM (U7k5w)

80 Looks y'all are 4 hours ahead of me. Anyhing going to happen that i need to know about?

Posted by: tbodie at May 18, 2019 02:50 PM (IrbWq)

81 The most famous picture of the supposed dead sniper in Devil's Den was a total fake news set up. The body was dragged to the stone wall build up.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 02:50 PM (BbGew)

82 40 Miles North, you asked about the weather in Anchorage last night and I missed it then.

The weather has been mostly cloudy with lows in mid 40s and highs in mid 60s. Very comfortable .

Posted by: tbodie at May 18, 2019 02:55 PM (IrbWq)

83 >> 79: I guess it's in the blood.
I can certainly appreciate the results, but the procedure itself feels like some kind of Wiccan ritual: "Eye of newt, and toe of frog..."

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:58 PM (o2vOl)

84 Mrs. JTB at May 18, 2019 02:41 PM

Sounds great. Lebanese cucumbers are a little different.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 02:59 PM (BVQ+1)

85 CN at May 18, 2019 02:36 PM

And best to move those raspberries when they're sort of small.

The marigolds and petunias sound great.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:02 PM (BVQ+1)

86 >> The weather has been mostly cloudy with lows
>> in mid 40s and highs in mid 60s. Very comfortable.

Nice. Thanks for responding.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 03:03 PM (o2vOl)

87 Agitator at May 18, 2019 02:38 PM

Best wishes for your recovery and for your garden.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:04 PM (BVQ+1)

88 Kindltot at May 18, 2019 02:14 PM

What kind of squash are you growing?

As I recall, corn seed is on the low side of the viability time scale.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:06 PM (BVQ+1)

89 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 02:49 PM

Buy some plants. Unless you are planning some late-season tomatoes. Maybe cherries.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:07 PM (BVQ+1)

90 83: A little, but the commercial preparations are not always great for the roots, especially for newer plants. Using old garden roses also minimizes freaking out over disease and wintering. I always feel for the people who are pained by their modern hybrids reverting to their root stock on year two...now that does feel like black magic!

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 03:08 PM (U7k5w)

91 Archer at May 18, 2019 02:39 PM

Where are you that you are getting snow?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:08 PM (BVQ+1)

92 >> The marigolds and petunias sound great.

You can grow marigolds, KT? Petunias last awhile here, but marigolds all die of heat stroke inside two weeks. I don't even try them any more. Your thumb must be greener than mine...

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 03:09 PM (o2vOl)

93 CN at May 18, 2019 03:08 PM

Are your old roses all on their own roots?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BVQ+1)

94 92: Here in NJ, they're going to flower til frost. I wasn't sure the orange and purple would be good, but I do like it.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 03:12 PM (U7k5w)

95 93: Yes.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 03:13 PM (U7k5w)

96 40 miles north at May 18, 2019 03:09 PM

I can grow French marigolds early in the season. Or the triploid ones. I deadhead them and plant in part shade. There are also the tiny signet marigolds that are edible, and the Mexican ones that bloom in fall.

Used to like the "African" marigolds in Southern California. They are short-timers around here. Early spring or fall.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:13 PM (BVQ+1)

97 I have been to Gettysburg and walked where American fought against American. It was a day in October with a light wind and warm sun, and it was so quiet that as I walked, I swear I heard what appeared to be the sounds of men fighting and dying. Truly a haunted and venerated place.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at May 18, 2019 03:17 PM (uGbDu)

98 If you want when lottery numbers are posted I can comment in code so you know what they are and quick go get a few winners.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 03:18 PM (BbGew)

99 96: Marigold salad sounds beautiful.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 03:19 PM (U7k5w)

100 Warning from years of experience, if you garden is under a acre do not plant spaghetti squash

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 03:20 PM (BbGew)

101 Too late to post? I just read the comments. I was out mowing. It takes me about 3.5 hours to do my yard and my sainted neighbors.

I love the lilly of the valley picture. They are my second most favorite flower (after wisteria).

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at May 18, 2019 03:21 PM (xpJpI)

102 100: Squash is another thing I get from the CSA.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 03:21 PM (U7k5w)

103 Skip is right about the dead confederate in devils den. It was not Brady who posed that body.

The three Confederates on the rail fence by Brady where men who have been captured and worked in the hospital. Got their choice of clothing and then marched off to a prison camp in the north. No one knows who they are one guy claim to be a descendent but it was proven false.

Posted by: Tail at May 18, 2019 03:24 PM (MnVYk)

104 Le Garde Vieux at May 18, 2019 03:21 PM

Certainly not too late to post. Check back on Sunday, too.

Lily of the Valley is great. You go from big plants to little ones, don't you?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:25 PM (BVQ+1)

105 CN at May 18, 2019 03:19 PM

Some of the edible marigolds are prettier than they are tasty. A few are kind of lemony.

Mexican Tarragon, the one that blooms in fall, is very pleasant, but on the strong side.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:27 PM (BVQ+1)

106 105: Lemony is nice.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 03:29 PM (U7k5w)

107 Tony Litwin at May 18, 2019 03:17 PM

Thanks for the story about your visit. Moving.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:29 PM (BVQ+1)

108 They have done amazing work at Gettysburg. If you go the The Peach
Orchard now, it is a peach orchard. I guess The Wheat Field is planted
with wheat or at least long grass. Other than those, they took down the
observation tower
long ago and continue to improve the landscape. Many don't realize that
the place was much more commercialized and basically dicked up a
hundred years ago. They even had a trolley that went around the park
like a Disney monorail.

One thing they
can't and won't do is recreate the wooded areas that were cleared by
farm animals. During the battle, you could see much further into a wood
line because all the undergrowth was foraged.



Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 03:30 PM (n13/j)

109 Gardner and crew was the ones who were their first at Gettysburg mainly to photograph the dead. Brady didn't get there until a few days after the battle and didn't get any photos of dead as they were all buried by then.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 03:36 PM (BbGew)

110 I haven't been to Gettysburg in maybe 20 years, though as a kid wax there many times. They have done amazing landscaping to get it closer to what the battlefield looked like.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 03:38 PM (BbGew)

111 Just woke up. Update on my cherries (Sakuranbo in Japanese)

They sell cherries for about $3 for 100g in Japan. (that is about a dozen). I am learning why (experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn from no other." - B. Franklin)

Next year I will try hand pollinating. I am also building a nest house for solitary bees. (mamekobachi) although I think it takes years to build up a population.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 03:46 PM (LWu6U)

112 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 03:46 PM

Do you have access to pollen from another compatible variety of cherry?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 04:07 PM (BVQ+1)

113 I am hot, sweaty, tired and smell wonderful. I've been planting alyssums.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 04:20 PM (0tfLf)

114 Diogenes at May 18, 2019 04:20 PM

Sounds like you smell great. Did the alyssum go in front of something else?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 04:33 PM (BVQ+1)

115 This morning we planted a Lebanese cucumber,

Do lebanese cucumbers have big noses ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 04:38 PM (kkoXz)

116 Sounds like you smell great. Did the alyssum go in front of something else?
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 04:33 PM (BVQ+1)

****

I use them to highlight other things in the flower beds. A birdbath. A little budda thing. And spread them around so they are more fragrant.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 04:39 PM (0tfLf)

117 Diogenes at May 18, 2019 04:39 PM

I especially like it with lobelia, if you are in a suitable climate. The white sets off lots of other flowers nicely, though.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 04:52 PM (BVQ+1)

118 JT at May 18, 2019 04:38 PM

Some of them look sort of like certain noses. Heh.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 04:54 PM (BVQ+1)

119 KT,
Since you asked, and I have spent the week researching cherry fertility.

They sell kits on internet, but mostly they just contain the tool and 3kg of powder dye for identifying which flowers have been pollinated. So I think only for farmers. It looks like some farmers actually do hand pollinate, but they strip off the flowers from one tree, dry and separate the pollen, and then use on the other trees. I do not know how long the pollen lasts but since I have two compatible trees, I really don't need pollen. (unless one tree was somehow mislabeled when I bought it.)

This is why they have a festival celebrating the mamekobachi bee in some cities.

Part of the problem is that the flower is only fertile for 12 to 24 hours after opening, and it takes 2-3 weeks for all the buds to open. I would have to do this every day for three weeks.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 04:55 PM (LWu6U)

120 What kind of squash are you growing?



As I recall, corn seed is on the low side of the viability time scale.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 03:06 PM (BVQ+1)


Sweet Meat and Acorn squash. Both from saved seed, so we will see what I actually get.

If I had my druthers I would get delicata, but I didn't grow those and save the seeds.

All my plants except the tomatoes, scarlet runner beans and egglplants are from saved seeds, so there is going to be some odd plants growing.

The seed corn is from maybe five years ago and I only got two out of 24 sprouting, so I am not surprised that it doesn't survive well. It made such good corn plants too, so I am sad to see the end of that year.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM (KTmSx)

121 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 04:55 PM
You may not need as many bees as you think, but you may need to plant some flowers other than cherries to nourish them.

It would be much better to let bees pollinate the cherries if that is feasible. I have hand-pollinated some things in the past. You may be able to just take an anther from one tree and place it on the pistil of the flower from another tree with tweezers.

Posted by: KT at May 18, 2019 05:53 PM (BVQ+1)

122 KT, in case you read back, there are a few new hybrid cherries that self pollinate.

Back when I had contact with the orchardists, they were just starting out trying them, and one grower mentioned that in a bad year of late rain, those trees still have good crops.

Then the ones I saw were Montmorency types, but I suspect if it works there will be other strains as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 05:53 PM (KTmSx)

123 Kindltot,

If you didn't hand pollinate, you might spring for some squash seeds for at least part of your crop. Delicata if you like them, Sand Hill Preservation sells one called 'Honeyboat'.

Sweet Meat is great, and I think Nichols has a special strain.

Gill's Golden Pippin Acorn squash is supposed to be superior to other acorns, and I think it's from your area. Single serving size.

Some other yellow acorns are supposed to be dual use: summer or winter squash.

Posted by: KT at May 18, 2019 06:06 PM (BVQ+1)

124 Kindltot at May 18, 2019 05:53 PM
Yes, there are a few self-pollinating sweet cherries now. And they tend to be good pollinators for other cherries.

Posted by: KT at May 18, 2019 06:08 PM (BVQ+1)

125 Kindltot at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM
If you are looking for interesting types of corn, Sand Hill Preservation has those, too. And there are other sources.

Posted by: KT at May 18, 2019 06:09 PM (BVQ+1)

126 KT -

I actually think my problem is that the bees that are active so early in year are very finicky. Once they start feeding on a species, they do not switch and so farmers are advised to keep nearby flowers to a minimum. I happen to have many other trees, including an ornamental plum nearby. But also the apricot, ume, plum, and a neighbor with a small tulip farm are all active at same time. I know I saw bees in garden, but I do not know type (probably the horned faced one I am looking for) and I am not sure if they were on the Cherry. So I think I need to make my cherry trees a home base for bees to make sure they get attention.

As for self fertile - they still need bees. Cherry flowers do not self pollinate and wind is very unreliable. But there is also the problem of finding a variety that tolerates the Japanese weather.

Or the problem could be pruning. If the tree is too strong, it will drop fruit. Or maybe water -- this was a very dry spring and I did not water them since they looked fine. This is first year both trees were in full bloom at same time, so first year to expect cherries.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM (LWu6U)

127 Kindltot at May 18, 2019 05:30 PM
'
Actually, if you didn't plant summer squash or pumpkins and you don't have neighbors who planted squash or pumpkins, you may get true-to-type squashes from your Acorns and Sweet Meats. They are different species. Cross-pollination is rare.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 06:22 PM (BVQ+1)

128 Busy all morning and afternoon - going out for the evening. Will post later.

Posted by: Pat* at May 18, 2019 06:23 PM (2pX/F)

129 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 06:14 PM

Sweet cherries are definitely a challenge in humid climates.

I was thinking of flowers to keep the bees going once the cherry blossoms are gone.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 06:25 PM (BVQ+1)

130 So my neighbor just told me I should spray my strawberries with HB-101, and I just looked it up and it appears to be homeopathic spray for plants.

>>Make the world happy with the power of bio.
>>The name is derived from "Happy Bio 101%"

Good grief.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 18, 2019 06:26 PM (LWu6U)

131 Passing along a message:

I am a long time moron lurker from North Alabama, and though this is a long shot, thought I could do something to help out fellow morons in the area, if there are any.
I went a little overboard seed-shopping this winter with all the really cool varieties of tomatoes at Baker Creek, and didn't think they would germinate as well as they did, so have a few hundred extra heirloom tomato seedlings. If you know of anyone in the Huntsville/Decatur/Athens area, I would love to share. I really don't want them to die, and if I plant 300+ tomato plants, I will die.
Absolutely love your garden thread every week.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 06:41 PM (BVQ+1)

132 Details on available varieties:

Lots of neat ones like Blue Beauty, White Tomesol, Yellow Garden Peach, and the bizarre Reisetomate. I have some extra peppers too, and had some heirloom french artichokes that sprouted fantastically in my aerogarden, just a few extras of those.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 18, 2019 06:52 PM (BVQ+1)

133 129: Monarda would do the trick. or lots of lavender. Bees adore both. Also, don't purge your lawn of clover, it keeps bees in love with your property. I have spent much effort convincing neighbors not to fall for these lawn services that come weekly to poison another flowering weed. No flowers no bees and butterflies. I'd rather live with wild violets than lose my pollinators.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (U7k5w)

134 I'm stuck in the same boat as agitator. Recovery from broken ankle is preventing me from getting much in. Already had onions and spinach planted but that's all. It's been cold un seasonably cold here anyway we'll see what we can get in in the near future.

Posted by: Farmer at May 18, 2019 09:09 PM (QTAAG)

135 134:Hoping you recover quickly, broken ankles are dreadful, too many bones and so many presentations.

Posted by: CN at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (U7k5w)

136 So many pretty flower pictures. I love flowers. Got my garden planted. Now doing overflow plants in spouses garden. That's where all the sprawling things go, like melons and squash. Using a horse corral for it as the ground is very fertilized from previous occupants.

Posted by: S.Lynn at May 19, 2019 12:35 AM (RbwbO)

137 From Idaho's Treasure Valley: We had some chilly rainy days, but we were blessed with a decent dry day today. My main project is still getting the dead leaves off 2 beds of strawberries (since we've already spotted berries forming). I actually finished the last bit of one bed today, and got over a quarter of the way through the second one, which was great progress for one day. We also planted out 2 of the indoor Big Boy tomato starts, and 2 of the Roma tomato starts. The weather will be cloudy, possibly drizzly, this coming week, so hopefully the plants won't be heat-stressed, and will get some good roots going, before it gets hot again.

I planted seeds for 2 zucchini, 4 butternut squash, 4 cucumber, and 4 cantaloupe this week. A friend gifted me 2 Sugar Baby watermelon starts, and 2 tomato "Black from Tula", which I have to figure out where to put!

I've thinned the carrots and lettuces.

My fall spinach and fall cilantro are seriously bolting. The new spinach is now harvestable. Not going to bother with spring cilantro. I do have to remember to get some basil seeds in. I did get some parsley sprouts from last year's dropped seeds. I cut some final sprouts of thyme (since it's starting to flower), and I continue to harvest and dry oregano.

We gave away a bunch of red raspberry sprouts to 2 of the adults associated with our smallbore rifle class.

The purple Siberian Iris are blooming; there must be more than a hundred flowers in the 5 clumps on the south side of my house. And the hummingbird-attracting seed mix in one of my raised beds is finally sprouting - I need to keep an eye for chamomile sprouts in that bed and pull them out, or the bed will be overrun with them again.

Husband rented a tiller, and tilled the bed that's for corn and beans, plus a new area to grow alfalfa in (for improving the soil and out-competing weeds). Question for those who keep chickens: I was thinking about whether I could cut some of the alfalfa, and give it to a friend for her chickens. Everything I'm reading online about alfalfa for chickens mentions dried bales. Is it OK for them to eat it as fresh greens?

Posted by: Pat* at May 19, 2019 12:43 AM (2pX/F)

138 Pat* at May 19, 2019 12:43 AM

Don't know about fresh alfalfa for chickens. Some legumes have toxic properties when fresh. More research may be in order.

The irises sound wonderful.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2019 01:18 AM (BVQ+1)

Old trains and more old trains? [KT]

F_high_speed_rail_.jpeg

The end of a dream?

This has been a big month for train news so far.

California's High-speed Rail

You may recall that Gavin Newsom killed Jerry Brown's dream for high-speed rail from Los Angeles (much less San Diego) to San Francisco earlier this year. But the truncated train line from Bakersfield to Merced was still supposed to showcase the energy efficiency of the New California. Still wasn't easy. On May 1, the San Francisco Chronicle informed us that California's high-speed rail might start with old-school diesel trains.

The cost of getting high-speed trains up and running in the Central Valley is expected to jump $1.8 billion, California rail officials said Wednesday, but they have a plan to weather that increase -- and it may include starting service with slower diesel trains.

A new report by the California High-Speed Rail Authority details how the state will build and pay for high-speed service between Bakersfield and Merced, now estimated to cost $20.4 billion. It's the rail authority's first plan for moving forward with the controversial train project since Gov. Gavin Newsom called for focusing the effort on a 165-mile Central Valley stretch.

Then on May 10, the LA Times ran a piece suggesting that this high-speed rail project and the feds were no longer on speaking terms.

Don't know why the feds wouldn't want to pay for the glorious plans described above.

Then, from a couple of days ago, Trump pulled a billion dollars in federal funding. Trump stated that he could have gotten the project done if he had been involved in the planning.

Sad. But, WINNING. As Stephen Green noted. Maybe it's back to updating the Amtrak route. That would be pretty hard on Jerry Brown.

For the technically-minded, here's a video noting some of the practical limits on the speed of trains, and asking what happened to hover trains?

The Transcontinental Railroad

Or as Barak Obama called it, the intercontinental railroad:

Back on May 9, David Foster wrote about the transcontinental railroad:

This month marks the 150th anniversary of the US Transcontinental Railroad... surely one of the most important 'infrastructure' projects of all time. Railway Age reprints the contemporary coverage from their predecessor publication, Railway Times.

Union Pacific has completed the restoration of their 'Big Boy' steam locomotive, #4014, and will be running it, together with Living Legend #844, from Ogden, Utah to Cheyenne, Wyoming, as part of the transcontinental commemoration.


It seems likely that, absent the transcontinental railroad, the United States would not have been able to stay together as a nation on a continental basis-certainly, long-distance transportation technology acts as a centripetal force to counterbalance the many centrifugal forces that tend to separate geographies politically. I've previously cited the thoughts of Edward Porter Alexander, a Confederate general turned railroad president, on this topic, while raising the question as to how far this effect can and should extend.

There are songs connected to the transcontinental railroad, including the one in Canada. And some interesting information and views in the comments.

The Federalist also ran a piece emphasizing the brute force necessary in building the transcontinental railroad.

A couple of train songs

Hope you have a great weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread:

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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1 I like trains. I don't like peeing on trains

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2019 11:19 AM (FwN37)

2 It's Thomas Jefferson's fault.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 11:21 AM (EOEiY)

3 If the project you want to build doubles in price, you should look over everything again, because you probably don't need it.

If the project you want to build increases in price without end, fire everyone and quit.

Posted by: DaveM at May 18, 2019 11:22 AM (WWC3Y)

4 I'm gonna take a freight train down at the station, Lord
I don't care where it goes
I'm gonna climb a mountain, the highest mountain, Lord
I'm gonna jump off, ain't nobody, ain't nobody gonna know

I'm gonna buy a ticket as far as I can
I ain't never comin' back
I'm gonna take me that south-bound
All the way to Georgia now

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:23 AM (ywNoU)

5 Till the train it run out of track

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:23 AM (ywNoU)

6 Willowed:

Biggest breakfast disappointment ever?
Garlic bacon.

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If you can find it at your local deli counter (I've never seen it on the shelf or hanging pre-packaged) find some garlic bologna. It's delicious. Wonderful fried in a pan with some onions and then made into a sandwich with some mustard.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 11:24 AM (EOEiY)

7 MYSTERY TRAIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_eE0NPArEY

Posted by: ELVIS at May 18, 2019 11:24 AM (3+RZS)

8 Well, train, train, take me on out of this town
Train, train, Lord, take me on out of this town
Well, that woman I'm in love with, Lord, she's Memphis bound
Well, leavin' here, I'm just a raggedy hobo
Lord, I'm leaving here, I'm just a raggedy hobo
Well, that woman I'm in love with, Lord, she's got to go
Well, goodbye pretty mama, get yourself a money man
Goodbye, pretty mama, Lord, get yourself a money man
You take that midnight train to Memphis
Lord, leave me if you can
Oh, take that midnight train to Memphis
Lord, leave me if you can
Oh, take that train, baby

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:26 AM (ywNoU)

9 Biden 2020: TOOT-TOOOOOOOT!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2019 11:27 AM (oVJmc)

10 Was watching some of those the other day. A Big Boy is going to be traveling around the West a lot this year, the 150th anniversary. Would be awesome to stand next to it as it rumbles by.

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:27 AM (8ruUE)

11 If most pop musicians listened to talented people playing Orange Blossom Special, they might do the right thing and try another career.

The City of New Orleans is also good.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:27 AM (n13/j)

12 and it may include starting service with slower diesel trains.

They can have San Jose's Light Rail if they want it. 20 mph should be fast enough for anybody.

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:28 AM (8ruUE)

13 I'm doing you a favor
As I'm taking all your money
I guess I should feel sorry
But I don't even trust me
There's bad news creeping up
And you feel a sudden chill
How do you do? my name is trouble
I'm coming in for the kill
I'm in for the kill
And you know I will
Set the ball a-rollin'
I'll be clicking off the miles
On the Train of Consequences
My boxcar life of style
My thinking is derailed
I'm tied up to the tracks
The Train of Consequences
There ain't no turning back

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:29 AM (ywNoU)

14 Canadian Railroad Trilogy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXzauTuRG78

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 11:29 AM (m45I2)

15 Solomon L. Wisenberg @WisenbergSol
13h
For God's sake shut up. You disgraced the FBI and your country in 2016 and you disgrace yourself every time you open your mouth. No amount of pandering to the lunatic left will erase the historical judgment on your unprecedented, unprofessional interference in the 2016 election.

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 18, 2019 11:31 AM (BqBId)

16 L.A. proved too much for the man

Posted by: fluffy at May 18, 2019 11:31 AM (dCRRg)

17 All aboard the Incontinental, Huma! Choo! Choo!

Heh-heh... *shart!*

Posted by: Hillary! at May 18, 2019 11:32 AM (8ruUE)

18
and it may include starting service with slower diesel trains.





$10 says that it'll be slower than the existing Amtrak line that's been there for nearly 50 years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2019 11:33 AM (cwL3u)

19
and it may include starting service with slower diesel trains.


Low-speed rail doesn't sound very sexy

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 11:33 AM (TAmPV)

20 This Train is bound for Glory

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2019 11:33 AM (FwN37)

21 Did you see the video of President Trump at the Real Estate convention? He spent a few minutes talking about trains, slow trains. "They can't build a train from San Diego? to San Francisco and they want to build one to Europe?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 11:34 AM (WSVNe)

22 It was a train that took me away from here, but a train can't bring me home.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 11:34 AM (EOEiY)

23 Now I'll tell you where I'm goin' boy
Down the Rock Island Line she's a mighty good road
The Rock Island Line is the road to ride
The Rock Island Line she's a mighty good road
If you ride you gotta ride her like you find her
Get your ticket at the station for the Rock Island Line

Posted by: irright at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (RVcmP)

24 Also 900 miles is a dang good train song.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (EOEiY)

25 Mississippi John Hurt. -

Casey Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfG3s10mfxE


Talking Casey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdHtq2BU7IY

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (m45I2)

26 Can't find the Big Boy schedule. Maybe it will come by our little section of the D&RGW.

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (yBXUJ)

27 "But the truncated train line from Bakersfield to Merced was still
supposed to showcase the energy efficiency of the New California."

Not sure why they want to spend $20 BILLION for train service between two cities with a combined population of less than 500,000.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (JUOKG)

28 Solomon L. Wisenberg , a man with blood on his hands.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 11:36 AM (WSVNe)

29 Bbbbut Europe has trains and everything Europe does is awesome so we need trains!!!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:36 AM (FiUMj)

30 $10 says that it'll be slower than the existing Amtrak line that's been there for nearly 50 years.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2019 11:33 AM (cwL3u)

___

And tickets prices twice as high.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:37 AM (FiUMj)

31 Well, you wake up in the mornin'
You hear the work bell ring
And they march you to the table
To see the same old thing
Ain't no food upon the table
Ain't no pork up in the pan
But you better not complain, boy
You'll get in trouble with the man

Let the midnight special...
Shine a light on me
Let the midnight special...
Shine a light on me
Let the midnight special...
Shine a light on me
Let the midnight special...
Shine an everlovin' light on me

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:37 AM (ywNoU)

32 Tank candy. The T-34 Orange Chocolate does look too bad.

https://bit.ly/2VvXyC1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 11:37 AM (+y/Ru)

33 Done by private industry, if the State of Calfornia had rebuilt this huge locomotive, it would have cost billions, and billions.

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2019 11:37 AM (ERvZ7)

34 Joey Choo Choo likes the train

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2019 11:37 AM (FwN37)

35 schedule:

https://www.up.com/heritage/
steam/schedule/index.htm

(after removing the space, of course)

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:38 AM (elfAG)

36 Talking Casey

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The live version of that is great when the crowd realizes what is being said about the sheep.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 11:39 AM (lPsvG)

37 Midnight Special is not a train song. It's an escape from prison song.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)

38 Honestly, I really like trains; always have. Something about them just seems cool to me, and I think we sometimes don't appreciate how important they still are to national transportation.

But. After a year traveling around in Europe, I don't think there's any way large-scale passenger rail service would work here, unless it was done far differently than over there. Even in Germany, which isn't supposed to have these problems, the schedule is often extremely unreliable, and the fact that most are state-run or state-subsidized means the prices are jacked way up and the services pretty basic. Not saying it can't be done, but I don't see it happening.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 18, 2019 11:40 AM (2PXwn)

39 Commies should quit trying to ruin our fine FREIGHT railroad system trying to create passenger trains. One of the sad things I saw after the recession and start of BO's reign of error was all the railroad cars sitting parked on old sidings.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 11:40 AM (pAkRe)

40 -
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Not sure why they want to spend $20 BILLION for train service between two cities with a combined population of less than 500,000.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM

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You could literally buy everyone there a $30,000 car and save $5 billion.

Posted by: irright at May 18, 2019 11:41 AM (RVcmP)

41 Thanks t-bird. Looks like it's in Medicine Bow this weekend.

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 11:41 AM (yBXUJ)

42 Driving my train, high on cocaine,
Casey Jones you better watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind

Trouble ahead, Lady in red
Take my advice you'd be better off dead
Switchman's sleeping, train hundred and two is
On the wrong track and headed for you

Drive my train, whoo
Trouble with you is the trouble with me
Got two good eyes but you still don't see
Come round the bend, you know it's the end
The fireman screams and the engine just gleams

Driving my train, high on cocaine,
Casey Jones you better watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind

Posted by: Alexandria at May 18, 2019 11:41 AM (WSVNe)

43 Charlie Sykes @SykesCharlie
With the demise of The Weekly Standard and the increasing Trumpification of much of the rest of the conservative media, the Bulwark increasingly stands alone in the breach, shouting "You can't be serious?"
But we need your support..

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 18, 2019 11:41 AM (BqBId)

44 Train robbery song.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IOk71pHqCu8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 11:42 AM (+y/Ru)

45 I lived in NYC for a while and had to go to Boston for bidness. I gave Acela a chance but it was about 90 minutes slower than flying. This was door to door time.

It was less stressful not having to deal with the airport zoo. But still that 90 minutes both ways was more valuable to me.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:42 AM (FiUMj)

46
He spent a few minutes talking about trains, slow trains. "They can't build a train from San Diego? to San Francisco and they want to build one to Europe?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 11:34 AM (WSVNe)


With the exception of Camp Pendleton SD to LA is now almost one continuous city. The Amtrack Surfliner can't even get up to speed so high speed rail is pointless

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 11:42 AM (TAmPV)

47 "But the truncated train line from Bakersfield to Merced was still

supposed to showcase the energy efficiency of the New California."


How energy efficient is a train no one rides?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2019 11:42 AM (oVJmc)

48 Posted by: Dr. T at May 18, 2019 11:40 AM (2PXwn)

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Plus the "high speed" lines aren't really that high speed. The top speed is high, but it's not like they take off at 250MPH and keep that up until the destination. They slow down a lot to 70-80 MPH.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:44 AM (FiUMj)

49 When has a president ever done anything so beautiful as to pull back a billion dollars from Commiefornia.
Sheesh. Trump. Love the guy.

Posted by: PJ at May 18, 2019 11:45 AM (qlTN9)

50 Medicine Bow was yesterday, acc. to the schedule.

Live map says it's stopped in Laramie, on its way to Cheyenne:

https://www.up.com/forms/
steam-trace.cfm

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:45 AM (elfAG)

51 They should allow freight trains to pull passenger cars at the same time.

Posted by: Alexandria at May 18, 2019 11:45 AM (WSVNe)

52 With the exception of Camp Pendleton SD to LA is now almost one continuous city. The Amtrack Surfliner can't even get up to speed so high speed rail is pointless
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 11:42 AM (TAmPV)

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Yeah. If anything, expand the existing lines and schedule. That may help traffic on I-5. But high speed between SD and LA is idiotic. It's basically going from the south side of a city to the north side of a city. You don't need a 200MPH train for that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:45 AM (FiUMj)

53 Whoops, not Laramie. "Miller", WY

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:46 AM (elfAG)

54 train from here to Denver takes over eight hours to travel 250 miles. Granted, it does cross the Continental Divide. You can do quite a bit of day drinking in the club car. Just don't get caught with your own beer.

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 11:46 AM (yBXUJ)

55 Ya know who made the trains run on time right?
Coincidence? I think not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2019 11:47 AM (FwN37)

56 Speaking of train robberies

Robert Earl Keen - Whenever Kindness Fails


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTpvD0bL7y4

I saw the brakeman and the engineer
Drinking wine and eating Brie
I asked them who would brake and who would steer
They started pointing back at me

So I shot 'em down
One by one
And I left 'em on the rails
I use my gun
Whenever kindness fails.

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 11:47 AM (m45I2)

57 There is a a railroad siding near my house. They park trains overnight and sometimes you can see crews getting dropped off to fire up the locomotives.

On occasion I have seen trainspotters stop to to observe. Part of the vacant land had a duplex put in recently. I can't imagine who would want to live with those massive diesels in their backyard.

Posted by: fluffy at May 18, 2019 11:47 AM (dCRRg)

58 Medicine Bow was yesterday, acc. to the schedule.

Live map says it's stopped in Laramie, on its way to Cheyenne

My typical MO, day late and a dollar short. Was thinking it was the 17th.

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 11:47 AM (yBXUJ)

59

Click Clack

https://youtu.be/uNyOr4h2ZLw

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 11:48 AM (aKsyK)

60 saw after the recession and start of BO's reign of error was all the railroad cars sitting parked on old sidings.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 11:40 AM (pAkRe)


I saw them also, any long side track full of new oil tank cars, miles of them. You don't see them around here anymore. Cuomo once talked about building an highspeed RR across the state from Buffalo to Albany. Would have cost billions, far, far more than just updating the Amtrak train which runs the same route. Same in California, rebuild what you already have, not buy land, fight law suits, pay off the local pols, who wanted the HS train to stop in every small town in their district. Which made the route wander all over the Central Valley.

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2019 11:48 AM (ERvZ7)

61 Well, to be fair, the cost of the Bakersfield to Merced route was only $23,415 per foot.

That's such an important, highly sought after travel route for Californians, and that meager amount of money really wouldn't help solve any of California's other major problems such as homelessness or the illegal alien invasion.

Certainly best to spend the money on a really cool set of bullet trains.

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Sarc!

When SMOD finally arrives on it's Holy Mission of Cleansing Fire, it will hit square on the San Andreas Fault.

Or so I pray.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 11:48 AM (smc0A)

62 Gonna lay my head on the track
Get some rest when the wheels go clack
And the train goes a roaring on
And now all my troubles are gone

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 11:50 AM (ywNoU)

63 City of New Orleans is my favorite train song. I think it is one of the only two songs in the world that has Kankakee in it. I was born in K3. Also, I used to ride the City of New Orleans from my so-called home down to college. I liked sleeping on the train. Trains are good for that.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 11:50 AM (lwiT4)

64 Oh, take that midnight train to Memphis
Lord, leave me if you can
Oh, take that train, baby

Posted by: Insomniac


Ah, now THAT is an ear worm to be reckoned with.

Thank you, Brother Insom.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 11:51 AM (smc0A)

65 Got this off utube, it sounds promising:
"Late Saturday, the Australian Broadcasting Corp. called 74 seats in the 151-seat lower parliamentary house as wins for Morrison's conservative Liberal-National party coalition, with 65 seats to Labor and 12 undecided..."

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 11:51 AM (WSVNe)

66 Gavin MacLeod > Gavin Newsom

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:51 AM (n13/j)

67
"But the truncated train line from Bakersfield to Merced was still
supposed to showcase the energy efficiency of the New California."

Not sure why they want to spend $20 BILLION for train service between two cities with a combined population of less than 500,000.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (JUOKG)








And already serviced by a passenger rail line that's rarely at full capacity.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2019 11:52 AM (cwL3u)

68 Charlie Sykes @SykesCharlie
With the demise of The Weekly Standard and the increasing Trumpification of much of the rest of the conservative media, the Bulwark increasingly stands alone in the breach, shouting "You can't be serious?"
But we need your support..

-
Yeah, boy, moonbat progs can hardly get a word in edgewise.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

69 Plus the "high speed" lines aren't really that high
speed. The top speed is high, but it's not like they take off at 250MPH
and keep that up until the destination. They slow down a lot to 70-80
MPH.






Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 18, 2019 11:44 AM

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High speed only makes sense if there are few stops. The Tokyo bullet train only has 6 stops on it's entire route. And the entire high speed train system for the entire Country of Japan only has 15 stops.


At the end of the day you know California would make that train stop at every single little community on the way and it would never get close to it's theoretical top speed.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 11:54 AM (JUOKG)

70 And already serviced by a passenger rail line that's rarely at full capacity.

And serviced even better by Uber/Lyft, I'll bet.

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:54 AM (8ruUE)

71 If the project you want to build increases in price without end, fire everyone and quit.
Posted by: DaveM at May 18, 2019 11:22

What...?

Posted by: The Big Dig at May 18, 2019 11:55 AM (LkJkV)

72 I don't like the Liberal Party (our "conservatives") all that much, but for every policy they have that I dislike, Labor (the centre-left party here) have a matching policy that is at least ten times worse.

So yay us, we continue to slide into Brave New World rather than 1984.


Some say the world will end in Brave New World,
Some say in 1984.
I stand with corporate flag unfurled
And push like hell for Brave New World.
But if it had to die once more,
I know enough of politics
To say that 1984
Could be the fix
I'm looking for.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 18, 2019 11:55 AM (2yngH)

73

And already serviced by a passenger rail line that's rarely at full capacity.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2019 11:52 AM (cwL3u)


It is Moombeam's vanity project.

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 11:55 AM (yBXUJ)

74 Holy crap, how could we forget one of the best train songs ever written?

Johnny Cash's "Texas 1947" (written by Guy Clark IIRC)

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=_KwvQ5lfA2k

Being six years old I had seen some trains before
So it's hard to figure out what we're at the depot for...

(3 minutes long and worth it)

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 11:55 AM (EOEiY)

75 One of my favorite songs, from Roy Rogers and Dale Evans:

"Pardon me, Roy,

Is that the cat who chewed

Your new shoes?"

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 11:56 AM (T09ml)

76 I love me some Orange Blossom Special.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 11:57 AM (aS1PU)

77 Colorado and esp. Denver is all about sexy light rail. I think they diverted road funding to bribing homeless addicts to come here to push folks to want light rail as an alternative to over crowded and potholed highways.

In Weld county, home of a lot of natural gas and oil wells, the county has upgraded a lot of county roads; but I-76 is in horrid shape. The state no doubt wants folks to think "oil trucks == bad roads".

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2019 11:57 AM (pAkRe)

78 Traveling Wilburys - End of the Line


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 11:57 AM (m45I2)

79 [Self-honking warning]

A hook, I do declare, for
Getting from Here to There.

2013 June. for thirty days I pondered, in cartoonish fashion, transportation's past, present, and future.

Link in nic to Panel 1. Click on the "Larger" links to better see.

[Been meaning to reformat this for better readability than the "Daily Doodles" constraints under which they were first done. Any year now.]

um_____________

* puts on carnival barker's fedora *

The PayPal donation buttons on my site work, last I knew. Help me replace this failing tablet for a new, real computer so I can make great webworks again, right? (MGWA? never mind)

* switches to humble artist tattered knit cap *

Whenever I see that rare time someone actually followed a link from Ace to my website (I can't see who, just that), I don't know whether to be amused or apologize. "Sorry I tricked you into seeing the dumb stuff I did."

* switches to cowboy hat, goes for a walk in the rain *

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for transportoon at May 18, 2019 11:57 AM (NsI03)

80 It is Moombeam's vanity project.

I wonder if it's just a scam to fund lawyers, activists, landowners who get a heads up, construction companies, politicians, and unions. Completing it would be a bonus, but completely optional.

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2019 11:58 AM (CMq2e)

81 They need to consult with AOC. She's apparently an expert on how to pull train. Yes, I know the expression is "pull a train".

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 11:58 AM (T6t7i)

82 LA Times is upset that Trump killed the HS rail, after they had run articles about the cost of it. Because Trump did it, its bad, bad, bad. Trump hates us here in California. Trump is a meanie...Mean while the HS Rail Authority says they are going forward. How much forward is taking money from the cap and trade, new gas taxes, etc....Tax payers don't seem to have anything to say about all this, or maybe don't care.

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2019 11:58 AM (ERvZ7)

83 72
I don't like the Liberal Party (our "conservatives") all that much, but
for every policy they have that I dislike, Labor (the centre-left party
here) have a matching policy that is at least ten times worse.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 18, 2019 11:55 AM (2yngH)


That describes our Republicans and Democrats pretty well.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 11:58 AM (sdi6R)

84 Pardon me, Roy,

Is that the cat who chewed

Your new shoes?"
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 11:56 AM (T09ml)

****

Groan.

Haven't heard that joke in 30 years.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 11:59 AM (0tfLf)

85 Pardon me, boy....is this the Transylvania Station?

Posted by: Froederick Frankenstein at May 18, 2019 11:59 AM (LkJkV)

86 I wonder if it's just a scam to fund lawyers, activists, landowners who
get a heads up, construction companies, politicians, and unions.


Do you? Do you really wonder?

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 11:59 AM (T6t7i)

87

So yay us, we continue to slide into Brave New World rather than 1984.

https://tinyurl.com/y9tb4but

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 12:00 PM (aKsyK)

88 Not saying it can't be done, but I don't see it happening.

Posted by: Dr. T


Congrats on your En-Doctor-enating yesterday, Dr. T.


The thing about the US v. Europe and ANY comparison of the possibility of building and successfully operating any mass transportation method is population density.

Simply put, Europe has a high enough pop Density that you can ALMOST make it work without pissing yuge amounts of money down a hole.

In the US, it will never work. Too spread out.

And of course we also like the freedom of jetting around in our cars. Europeans are sheep who've never had the sort of individual car culture we've had.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:00 PM (smc0A)

89
Not sure why they want to spend $20 BILLION for train service between two cities with a combined population of less than 500,000.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 11:35 AM (JUOKG)


Four words: High-speed produce transport.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 12:00 PM (TAmPV)

90 Then things got real quiet
And Momma jerked me back
But not before I got a chance
To lay a nickel on the track

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 12:01 PM (m45I2)

91 "It looks like the Liberals (Australia's conservative party) have pulled off an upset win against Labor to retain power for the nineteenth consecutive year.* (Sydney Morning Herald)"


Wait, wait, I just read (on utube) that Labor did a rout.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 12:01 PM (WSVNe)

92 pixy sighting.

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 12:01 PM (yBXUJ)

93 Groan.

Haven't heard that joke in 30 years.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 11:59 AM

++++

Ok, so I'm old. Don't rub it in.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:01 PM (T09ml)

94 Bbbbut Europe has trains and everything Europe does is awesome so we need trains!!!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker


Europe also has a shitload of nuclear power and pretty restrictive abortion laws.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:02 PM (smc0A)

95 Billy Joe Shaver's "Georgia on a Fast Train" is another all time favorite but it's not really a train song.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=UvpuWk5kwpQ

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:02 PM (EOEiY)

96 Yes, a passenger train line that ends in Merced.

Merced, where the counties biggest employer is???

The Prison system.

Oh, and they won't fix the Freeway here to three lanes because? They still can't decide where the damn train tracks are even going.

99 Highway is the deadliest Highway in the country, and we're going to spend billions on a train that no one will ride, because its a 'Train to nowhere'.

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 12:03 PM (NgKpN)

97 Europeans are sheep who've never had the sort of individual car culture we've had.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:00 PM

Just back from Greece. I had the option of taking a 90 minute tram ride from 10 miles outside of Athens, or driving in Athens. Drove to Athens. It took 25 minutes, and wasn't much worse than driving in Boston. Screw trains.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2019 12:03 PM (LkJkV)

98 Train kept a rollin', all night long.

Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at May 18, 2019 12:04 PM (EgshT)

99 The terminator (Arnie S). was attacked in S. Africa:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxbo8wbj

Posted by: bananadream at May 18, 2019 12:04 PM (YR7aL)

100 ...we're going to spend billions on a train that no one will ride, because its a 'Train to nowhere'.

Finally! I can go home.

Posted by: Nowhere Man at May 18, 2019 12:04 PM (aS1PU)

101 On-topic, that selfish SOB and worldwide-developer Trump probably understands exactly how much graft is involved in important projects like this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:04 PM (EOEiY)

102 Europe also has a shitload of nuclear power and pretty restrictive abortion laws.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:02 PM (smc0A)


Except Germany, Merkel is shutting them all down. To save the earth you know. Just keep buying gas from Russia, that takes care of our needs.

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2019 12:05 PM (ERvZ7)

103
City of New Orleans is my favorite train song. I think it is one of the only two songs in the world that has Kankakee in it. I was born in K3. Also, I used to ride the City of New Orleans from my so-called home down to college. I liked sleeping on the train. Trains are good for that.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 11:50 AM (lwiT4)


Peace Train is the worst train song ever.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 12:05 PM (TAmPV)

104 Just back from Greece. I had the option of taking a 90 minute tram ride from 10 miles outside of Athens, or driving in Athens. Drove to Athens. It took 25 minutes, and wasn't much worse than driving in Boston. Screw trains.

--

We routinely drive for 8-10 hour trips now. With the family there's not much reason not to. Save hundreds if not thousands of dollars, stop to see things we want to look at, and get there in just about the same amount of time as if we'd flown.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:06 PM (EOEiY)

105 Some dude hauls off and kicks Schwarzenegger square in the back. I think it knocks him to the ground but later you see him walking out.

Posted by: bananadream at May 18, 2019 12:06 PM (YR7aL)

106 California's HIGH. SPEED. RAIL. was a non-starter from the get-go, as all grownups (there are a few of us left here) knew right from the start. The only question was how long the farce would continue before the liberals finally acceded to reality.

A conservative buddy has an earnestly liberal wife. When a group of us - all conservative - started ripping on HIGH. SPEED. RAIL. she got very quiet. I went out of my way to dump on it, because my buddy couldn't, as he had to maintain the domestic tranquility, so I did the running.

Next time I'm around her I'm going to dump on it all again (pretending I don't realize that she was all for it, as a member of the community-based reality), and deprecating the intelligence and judgment of those who supported the Chowchilla Express.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:07 PM (1tY1L)

107 A peanut sat on a railroad track

It's heart was all a-flutter

Along came the six-fifteen (Toot Toot)

Peanut butter!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 12:07 PM (q1Pj5)

108 The Smothers Brothers had a song about a train.
Old 49.
It left the station. It went fast. It arrived on time. It didn't crash.
That's pretty much it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 12:07 PM (0tfLf)

109 Four words: High-speed produce transport.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic



Ah, the Lettuce Luge.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 12:08 PM (T6t7i)

110 But the truncated train line from Bakersfield to Merced was still supposed to showcase the energy efficiency of the New California.

And yet, paradoxically and ironically, that's EXACTLY what it does.

You have to laugh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:08 PM (1tY1L)

111 Schwarzenegger attacked (but apparently unhurt) by a man wanting a Lamborghini and an Apple TV.

https://bit.ly/30su3ES

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 12:09 PM (+y/Ru)

112 /sock

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 12:09 PM (aS1PU)

113 But the truncated train line from Bakersfield to Merced was still supposed to showcase the energy efficiency of the New California.

--

You mean the New California that ranks 49th in education?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:09 PM (EOEiY)

114 Ok, so I'm old. Don't rub it in.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:01 PM

****

Yeah. Me too. That's how I recognized it!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 12:10 PM (0tfLf)

115 Just keep buying gas from Russia, that takes care of our needs.

Posted by: Colin


Well at least Germany learned that it is better to just buy shit from people rather than invading them to take their stuff.

That's progress.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:10 PM (smc0A)

116
Ah, the Lettuce Luge.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 12:08 PM (T6t7i)


The Cantaloupe Express.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 18, 2019 12:10 PM (TAmPV)

117 100 ...we're going to spend billions on a train that no one will ride, because its a 'Train to nowhere'.

Finally! I can go home.
Posted by: Nowhere Man at May 18, 2019 12:04 PM (aS1PU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0

No he never returned, no he never returned, and his fate is still unlearned.

MTA song

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 12:11 PM (NgKpN)

118 Oh, and they won't fix the Freeway here to three lanes because?
Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 12:03 PM (NgKpN)


Road diet.

Thanks, Jerry. Retard.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:11 PM (1tY1L)

119 Chattanooga Choo Choo

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 18, 2019 12:12 PM (BqBId)

120 114 Ok, so I'm old. Don't rub it in.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:01 PM

****

Yeah. Me too. That's how I recognized it!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 12:10 PM (0tfLf)

We're not Old! We're CLASSICS!

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 12:12 PM (NgKpN)

121 Hey the The Family Truckster with grandma on the roof is still faster than the California HS choo choo.

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2019 12:12 PM (ERvZ7)

122 You mean the New California that ranks 49th in education?
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:09 PM (EOEiY)


Que?

Yep. That's the one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:12 PM (1tY1L)

123 Steve Goodman playing "City of New Orleans"

Probably the best version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SfPyg-mGhU


Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:12 PM (T09ml)

124 >> 111 Schwarzenegger attacked


What's the dude that kicked him screaming? Is he asking for a Lamborghini?

Posted by: bananadream at May 18, 2019 12:13 PM (YR7aL)

125
Next time I'm around her I'm going to dump on it all again (pretending I don't realize that she was all for it, as a member of the community-based reality), and deprecating the intelligence and judgment of those who supported the Chowchilla Express.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=======

Hee hee hee. Make sure you talk about all the women's shelters they could have built and run with all that money. Name the amount, scope out a hypothetical couple of local buildings, cite a domestic violent crime as close to your area as possible, and shake your head over how that poor woman could be alive and thriving now if it hadn't been for these crazy *men* and their obsession with *engineering* and *science* and how they can't grow up about their precious *toy trains.*

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:13 PM (13CQC)

126 Happy Mt St Helens Day!

I was there. It was incredible. Mother Nature at its most awesome.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 12:13 PM (0tfLf)

127 " One of the sad things I saw after the recession and start of BO's reign of error was all the railroad cars sitting parked on old sidings. "


Not always an economic thing ... here in WI there are long sidings, multi-tracked, that are used to store all the grain hopper cars that are only used at harvest time; in the fall the sidings empty out, then refill over the winter.


Hope they bring #4014 around here some time.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 18, 2019 12:14 PM (isI7q)

128 ust back from Greece. I had the option of taking a 90 minute tram ride
from 10 miles outside of Athens, or driving in Athens. Drove to Athens.
It took 25 minutes, and wasn't much worse than driving in Boston. Screw
trains.

Interesting. I found Athens to be about the worst driving experience ever. My advice to people visiting Greece is see Athens if you must then go to the good parts.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 12:14 PM (n13/j)

129 Oh, and for those who don't know.

Merced to Bakersfield is 2.5 hours drive time.

Straight shot on a crowded freeway, where most of the speed limit is 70 MPH.

And lots, and LOTS of trucks, which a passenger train will not fix.

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

130 My Baby Thinks He's A Train - Roseanne Cash

https://youtu.be/HxzklJK5GpU

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 12:14 PM (q1Pj5)

131
Steve Goodman playing "City of New Orleans"



Probably the best version.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SfPyg-mGhU







Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:12 PM (T09ml)



Nice - thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2019 12:15 PM (lwiT4)

132 I was looking at Amtrak schedules and fares to Arizona.. we have a wedding to go to in the fall..

Closest I can get to Phoenix is Flagstaff.. and that takes 30 hours.. 30 hours! I can drive it myself in less time!

And the fare is twice as much as airfare! Geebus.. government run trains...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 18, 2019 12:15 PM (438dO)

133 Peace Train is the worst train song ever.

Yusuf rocks.

Posted by: John "The Sweetest Sound" Brennan at May 18, 2019 12:15 PM (EgshT)

134
On-topic, that selfish SOB and worldwide-developer Trump probably understands exactly how much graft is involved in important projects like this.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

======

The only chapter you need to read in The Art of the Deal is the one on the Wollman Rink. It ought to be compulsory in American schools.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:17 PM (13CQC)

135 What, no Love Train?

Posted by: The O'Jays at May 18, 2019 12:18 PM (eZfF5)

136 LA Times is upset that Trump killed the HS rail, after they had run articles about the cost of it. Because Trump did it, its bad, bad, bad. Trump hates us here in California. Trump is a meanie...Mean while the HS Rail Authority says they are going forward. How much forward is taking money from the cap and trade, new gas taxes, etc....Tax payers don't seem to have anything to say about all this, or maybe don't care.
Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2019 11:58 AM (ERvZ7)


OK, they started building HIGH. SPEED. RAIL. (I write it that way because of the ponderous and reverential way liberals used to say the words) out in the Central Valley, where all they had to contend with were lettuce fields.

How exactly were they going to get to LA? Bore through the San Gabriel mountains? That sounds cheap.

And how exactly were they going to get to SF, through some of the most expensive and earthquake-prone turf on the planet?

These trifling details were left for others to solve. The liberals basically imposed taxes, pissed away an incredible amount of money (several border walls worth), tooted a train whistle, and called it good.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:18 PM (1tY1L)

137 The weather is nice today but I'm not getting motivated to mow the lawn.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 12:18 PM (sdi6R)

138 Also, 900 Miles may or may not be related to Train 45

Del McCoury's version here:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=2FcQIqBWYjo

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:18 PM (EOEiY)

139 By the time it is all not done, with the very few passengers that ride the high speed hoax, we could have given each one a Ferrari. Or Bentley.


All government is bad but kalifornia government, i.e. demofascist government, is the very worst. This gigantic graft and terrible fascist rule is what the democrat party is and wants all of the USA under... before they kill us.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 18, 2019 12:19 PM (pw+jk)

140 wasn't much worse than driving in Boston

Worse than driving in Boston?

I do not understand those words in that order.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:20 PM (1tY1L)

141 Runaway Train starring Jon Voight and Eric Roberts.
Awesome flick, especially the ending.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 12:20 PM (q1Pj5)

142 Well at least Germany learned that it is better to just buy shit from people rather than invading them to take their stuff.



That's progress.


Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:10 PM

---

The Germans managed to conduct operations for the last 18 months of the War by liquefying coal into fuel once they got cut off from oil sources.

They could do it again if they wanted to.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 12:20 PM (JUOKG)

143 18 minute video of 14 y/o femme going on a political rant. She's on point.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/OdaUDeAGIck/

Posted by: Ex-ex at May 18, 2019 12:21 PM (RU4sa)

144 Happy Mt St Helens Day!

I was there. It was incredible. Mother Nature at its most awesome.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 12:13 PM (0tfLf)

My grandpa saw it happen. He was in his kitchen in Longview, sipping his coffee and watching the mountain because it was a clear day. then kerblooey. There was plenty of ash in Longview, but the northward explosion sent the majority of the ash north and east. Missoula Montana ended up with feet of ash.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 18, 2019 12:21 PM (uzjER)

145 California should find some wood burning steam locomotives for their choo-choo. Sustainable, natural.... What's not to like?

Posted by: Ripley at May 18, 2019 12:22 PM (MxEKc)

146 wasn't much worse than driving in Boston

Worse than driving in Boston?

I do not understand those words in that order.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
...........

I've never been to Boston, but the scariest driving experience I ever had was San Francisco.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 18, 2019 12:22 PM (438dO)

147 Hee hee hee. Make sure you talk about all the women's shelters they could have built and run with all that money. Name the amount, scope out a hypothetical couple of local buildings, cite a domestic violent crime as close to your area as possible, and shake your head over how that poor woman could be alive and thriving now if it hadn't been for these crazy *men* and their obsession with *engineering* and *science* and how they can't grow up about their precious *toy trains.*
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:13 PM (13CQC)


Great idea!

"And think of all the poor brown people we could have helped. We could have called it, "The Tortilla Express."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:22 PM (1tY1L)

148 The conservative party was reelected in Australia, despite pools saying that the Labor Party would win overwhelmingly (sound familiar).

The Left in Australia is going absolutely nuts - among other things, they are passing around suicide hotline numbers, because normal. stable people contemplate killing themselves when their side loses an election.

It's like Trump's and Brexit - when the media explains that you are irredeemable and deplorable for voting for a conservative, people start lying to pollsters.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 12:23 PM (I2/tG)

149 We got a thick dusting of ash in Cody, Wyoming as well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 18, 2019 12:23 PM (uzjER)

150 Runaway Train starring Jon Voight and Eric Roberts.
Awesome flick, especially the ending.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 12:20 PM (q1Pj5)

++++

I saws a runaway train on a milk carton one time.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:23 PM (T09ml)

151 And yes, that is shamelessly stolen.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 18, 2019 12:23 PM (T09ml)

152 because normal. stable people contemplate killing themselves when their side loses an election.

--

Look, it's either that or start a nuclear war with Russia.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:23 PM (EOEiY)

153
Gavin MacLeod > Gavin Newsom
Posted by: Quint

======

Fig Newton > Gavin Newsom

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:24 PM (13CQC)

154 I love trains, the idea of them, the engineering, the history, the legacy, and its just a great way to travel. But they aren't economically viable as built. Every major rail system on earth is heavily subsidized by the government because they cannot charge people enough to pay for the costs of running one. Freight pays its way because it doesn't require space or seats, service or oversight. Your freight isn't going to get sick or drunk or try to hurt anyone.

That said, I think they probably could run trains with a mini nuke as an engine and that would severely reduce operational costs, since the second major expense is fuel (the first being personnel as always). You'd have to get past the people terrified of anything nuclear, and all the jackass protesters, but I think its viable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:24 PM (39g3+)

155 "Missoula Montana ended up with feet of ash."

Better than a feet of clay.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 18, 2019 12:24 PM (4thlk)

156 "The Germans managed to conduct operations for the last 18 months of the War by liquefying coal into fuel once they got cut off from oil sources.

They could do it again if they wanted to.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2019 12:20 PM (JUOKG) "



Worked on a couple of pilot plants trying to do that from "biomass" earlier this century, it happens every time oil prices get high enough to allow numbers to work out on paper.
In practice, not so much ... and then oil prices go down again ...
In wartime, economic considerations go right out the window.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 18, 2019 12:26 PM (isI7q)

157
Great idea!

"And think of all the poor brown people we could have helped. We could have called it, "The Tortilla Express."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

====

Make it personal. Make it real. Make her envision her liberal proteges suffering because of her failure to think things through.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:26 PM (13CQC)

158 Happy Mt St Helens Day!

I was there. It was incredible. Mother Nature at its most awesome.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 12:13 PM (0tfLf)


Me too. My, does time fly. That was before kidlets. Don't mess with mother nature!

Posted by: Infidel at May 18, 2019 12:27 PM (yBXUJ)

159 Iowahawk quoted a hilarious Austrlian Twitter thread, which starts:

My daughter watching @abcnews from Iceland now saying she's not coming home now in tears with my Grandson wondering what the hell is going on. Others have contacted me in tears.. I'm confused ffs .. Strange night #auspol not good for Australia

Followed by:

I've been crying fro the past hour. Tried to eat dinner, couldn't I feel like there's simply no tomorrow.

Les, im now totally ashamed to be an Australian, im starting to loathe this dumb Nation now, just so fucked up on so many levels, just greed, avarice, corruption rules, no compassion, nothing, but cold dead heart, I really hate Australia tonight, How can morons be so dumb, how. ?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 12:27 PM (I2/tG)

160 because normal. stable people contemplate killing themselves when their side loses an election.

Would these be the same people who assured us they would move to Canada, or NZ, or Europe, if Trump won? What's the current count on them?

A little histrionic drama is a big plus in the SJW community.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 12:27 PM (T6t7i)

161 I've never been to Boston, but the scariest driving experience I ever had was San Francisco.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 18, 2019 12:22 PM (438dO)


Pfft. Child's play compared to Boston. At least people stop for red lights in SF (or used to).

My first driving experience in Boston I was stopping for a yellow light, which would turn red before I got there. Behind me there were brakes screeching, tires burning, and people swearing at me. I hadn't known that (at least then) that four or five cars would cruise through a red light before anyone actually stopped. The people behind were accelerating, not slowing, hence the pandemonium when I stopped.

My favorite Boston driving story: an ambulance was driving with its lights and sirens on when a guy pulled up onto a raised divider strip, gunned his engine, raced past the ambulance, then drove back off the raised divider to cut off the ambulance. I couldn't believe it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:27 PM (1tY1L)

162 Silver train is comin'
Think I'm gonna get on now, oh, yeah

Posted by: M. Jagger & K. Richards at May 18, 2019 12:28 PM (4knXT)

163 Better than a feet of clay.
Posted by: lowandslow at May 18, 2019 12:24 PM (4thlk)


I had this dream once...

Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar at May 18, 2019 12:28 PM (aS1PU)

164 The Germans managed to conduct operations for the last 18 months of the War by liquefying coal into fuel once they got cut off from oil sources.

They could do it again if they wanted to.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


Probably true.

But where are they going to find 5 million dudes who are willing to fight and die for the Fatherland?

I think that the possibility of a new World War ever breaking out died with the invention of the smart phone.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 12:29 PM (smc0A)

165 Wreck of the Old 97 - Boxcar Willie
Just shovel in a little more coal

https://youtu.be/lyk3AEXvmLg

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 12:29 PM (q1Pj5)

166 Make it personal. Make it real. Make her envision her liberal proteges suffering because of her failure to think things through.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:26 PM (13CQC)


Another good point.

Of course, her husband and I could just show her our income tax returns. Think that that would personalize it enough?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:30 PM (1tY1L)

167 That said, I think they probably could run trains with a mini nuke as an
engine and that would severely reduce operational costs, since the
second major expense is fuel (the first being personnel as always).
You'd have to get past the people terrified of anything nuclear, and all
the jackass protesters, but I think its viable.


If you made all the trains autonomous and got rid of the people, I suspect that not only would the cost go down dramatically, but safety would improve. It seems like every train accident I hear about is because the engineer was on drugs or drunk.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 12:30 PM (T6t7i)

168 Napoli, Italy.

A city of 2 million. All the standard roads, lanes and traffic lights. Except ... the lanes are optional, three traffic lights are obeyed at any one day, and change the next, and a certain maniacal testosterone surge is needed to get anywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 18, 2019 12:30 PM (u82oZ)

169 I loved seeing different little train sets of the those people that would do the huge landscapes, depots, etc when I was a kid (still do a little bit) but I never wanted to build one.
High speed rail could really only be useful in big city to big city with few or no other stops. Otherwise whats the point.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 12:30 PM (r+sAi)

170 If you made all the trains autonomous and got rid of the people, I suspect that not only would the cost go down dramatically, but safety would improve. It seems like every train accident I hear about is because the engineer was on drugs or drunk.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 12:30 PM (T6t7i)


I heard that Tesla's on it. No worries.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 12:31 PM (aS1PU)

171 How about all those homeless living on San Francisco bay in *makeshift* 15/20 thousand dollar boats?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 12:31 PM (W54U5)

172 Ride the train. Ride the train.
Everywhere I go I ride trains.
Sleeping in the boxcars when it rains.
Ride the train. Ride the train.

Posted by: Ex-ex at May 18, 2019 12:32 PM (RU4sa)

173 I had this dream once...

Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar



I dreamed a dream of days gone by......

Posted by: Fantine at May 18, 2019 12:32 PM (T6t7i)

174 The scene from Dr. Zhivago where the commie train station master instructs the passengers on the use of disinfectant and the removal of night soil during their trip across California, errr, I mean Russia is a favorite of mine.

Klaus Klinski is the only free man on the train.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 12:32 PM (Z+IKu)

175
"The conservative party was reelected in Australia, despite pools saying
that the Labor Party would win overwhelmingly (sound familiar).



Posted by: The ARC of History!"

Are Australian conservatives actually, you know conservative? Or are they just less socialist like euro-conservatives?

Posted by: Ripley at May 18, 2019 12:34 PM (MxEKc)

176 159
Les, im now totally ashamed to be an Australian, im starting to
loathe this dumb Nation now, just so fucked up on so many levels, just
greed, avarice, corruption rules, no compassion, nothing, but cold dead
heart, I really hate Australia tonight, How can morons be so dumb, how. ?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 12:27 PM (I2/tG)


Yes, I really want people like that governing me.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 12:34 PM (sdi6R)

177 How about all those homeless living on San Francisco bay in *makeshift* 15/20 thousand dollar boats?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 12:31 PM (W54U5)

--

I'm told they've got a huge problem with people living in RVs parked on city streets, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 18, 2019 12:35 PM (EOEiY)

178
With no other commentary (it IS technically a silent movie)

Buster Keaton in The Railrodder (Canadian Rail across the continent)


https://youtu.be/xYmcN12M97o

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2019 12:35 PM (KTmSx)

179 When I was a little girl, my mother took me and my sister on a passenger train from Iowa to San Francisco. I don't remember much about it, I was so young, but I remember my mother wanting us to have the experience of long distance train travel at least once in our lives.

Posted by: ALH at May 18, 2019 12:35 PM (htgmn)

180 I rode a train once from Osan AFB to somewhere near Wonju, Korea. The toilet opened directly to the tracks.

I'd hate to see what it looks like between the rails.

Posted by: Ex-ex at May 18, 2019 12:36 PM (RU4sa)

181 Worked on a couple of pilot plants trying to do that from "biomass" earlier this century, it happens every time oil prices get high enough to allow numbers to work out on paper.
In practice, not so much ... and then oil prices go down again ...
In wartime, economic considerations go right out the window.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 18, 2019 12:26 PM (isI7q)


The big difference is in the oxidation state of the starting material. Biomass is typically highly oxygenated, usually consisting largely of carbohydrates (e.g., cellulose, a carbohydrate polymer). As such, its energy density is fairly low; it's already half-oxidized. (That's the problem with ethanol; practically the only thing worse would be burning acetic acid - vinegar - which in principle can be done.)

Coal, OTOH, is not highly oxygenated, and is closer to being just carbon. The Fischer-Tropsch process essentially just hydrogenates coal to make hydrocarbon fuel. That's much more energy dense, and therefore much more cost-effective to produce.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:36 PM (1tY1L)

182 One of my favorite train songs

https://youtu.be/_tvNMU4LMeY

By the little Warby Gals from O Brother Where Art Thou, more grown up

Also, of course,

https://youtu.be/2SfPyg-mGhU

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:36 PM (39g3+)

183 I rode a train once from Osan AFB to somewhere near Wonju, Korea. The toilet opened directly to the tracks.

I'd hate to see what it looks like between the rails.
Posted by: Ex-ex at May 18, 2019 12:36 PM (RU4sa)


It's called "night soil."

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 12:37 PM (aS1PU)

184 I'd hate to see what it looks like between the rails.

Posted by: Ex-ex


Lush?

Posted by: Fantine at May 18, 2019 12:37 PM (T6t7i)

185 It seems like every train accident I hear about is because the engineer was on drugs or drunk.

Self Driving Trains make a hell of a lot more sense than cars: its on a literal rail and is constantly overseen by engineers at central locations.

I'd hate to see the guy in that striped cap be wiped out though

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:38 PM (39g3+)

186 Yes, I really want people like that governing me.


Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 12:34 PM (sdi6R)

he stole all of that from the libs after W was reelected and when Trump won. I will give him the "Australian" part though.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 12:38 PM (n13/j)

187 I'd hate to see the guy in that striped cap be wiped out though
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:38 PM (39g3+)


Don't kill Smiley Burdett!

Posted by: ALH at May 18, 2019 12:39 PM (htgmn)

188 My favorite Boston driving story: an ambulance was driving with its lights and sirens on when a guy pulled up onto a raised divider strip, gunned his engine, raced past the ambulance, then drove back off the raised divider to cut off the ambulance.

I drove from the West Coast to Chicago, and got on the Kennedy Expressway in a blinding rainstorm headed into the city. There was a highly visible ambulance with lights and siren behind me, and it occurred to me and the guy in the adjacent lane that it we stopped, that would create enough space for the ambulance to get by the knot of cars it was trapped in.

So I stop for the ambulance, and the guy behind me immediately starts leaning on his horn.

"I'm back in Chicago, alright", I thought.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 12:39 PM (I2/tG)

189 The Cold Blue, new WWII movie made from digitally enhanced William Wyler footage.

http://tinyurl.com/y4hktmpk
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4hktmpk

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 12:39 PM (W54U5)

190 I rode a train once from Osan AFB to somewhere near Wonju, Korea. The toilet opened directly to the tracks.



I'd hate to see what it looks like between the rails.

Posted by: Ex-ex at May 18, 2019 12:36 PM (RU4sa)
At least it is not 'blue ice' crashing through your roof.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 18, 2019 12:39 PM (q1Pj5)

191 Would these be the same people who assured us they would move to Canada, or NZ, or Europe, if Trump won? What's the current count on them?

A little histrionic drama is a big plus in the SJW community.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2019 12:27 PM (T6t7i)


That just reveals the ignorance of the liberals. They seem to think that those places are just like the US: you just waltz in if the spirit moves you.

I hate to break it to them, but most countries restrict the bejesus out of immigration. You have to have skills that they want, or a buttload of money, and if they let you in at all, some countries specify where exactly you can live.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:40 PM (1tY1L)

192
Another good point.

Of course, her husband and I could just show her our income tax returns. Think that that would personalize it enough?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=====

I've heard of that sort of thing. "You know that [Kitchen Thing] you wanted that would make your life so much easier that cost $800? Here it is. [points to tax return] I gave it to someone else who isn't working. I'm supporting them as well as you."

Every time Liberal Wife talks about spending money -- on something reasonable and labor-saving, mind you -- remind her that you've earmarked that money for someone else who isn't working. If you're in the right part of town or the local news is playing, you should be able to point at a person of dubious deservingness and say "I gave it to him instead."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:41 PM (13CQC)

193 I'd hate to see what it looks like between the rails.

They try to dump it when they're between cities and at speed so its less likely to be a stinky mess in one spot where people are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:42 PM (39g3+)

194 OT, but (thanks to Sean Davis!) the best looking video of the day is Halle Berry (thank you Cleveland) at the range, toning up for John Wick. I could watch this for many minutes. Oh, whathisname Keanu is there too.


https://tinyurl.com/y5mfn7xy

Posted by: Ernest Hemingway, who admires crisp opening sentences at May 18, 2019 12:43 PM (Z216Q)

195 That just reveals the ignorance of the liberals. They seem to think that those places are just like the US: you just waltz in if the spirit moves you.

They also ignore that Canada and New Zealand have had right-wing governments recently.

What are you going to do - live a nomadic existence where you move from country to country every time your side loses an election?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 12:43 PM (I2/tG)

196 Dammit. Now I have a Peace Train earworm.

Posted by: John "The Sweetest Sound" Brennan at May 18, 2019 12:44 PM (EgshT)

197 I hate to break it to them, but most countries
restrict the bejesus out of immigration. You have to have skills that
they want, or a buttload of money, and if they let you in at all, some
countries specify where exactly you can live.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 12:40 PM (1tY1L)

Yeah they are freaking clueless. And in the E.U. Americans are so down the list it is laughable. Like you said, unless you having something they need (most likely you don't), it is going to a hard trek.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 12:44 PM (n13/j)

198 the bell long since tolled for my Hemingway sock

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 18, 2019 12:44 PM (Z216Q)

199 Only rode 2 real trains in my life, when I was a kid rode something called the skunk train in CA on vacation and my wife and I took an Amtrack on vacation once.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 12:46 PM (r+sAi)

200
Klaus Klinski is the only free man on the train.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy

=====

I never understood just what the deal was with that character. He was a prisoner of what/whom?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 18, 2019 12:46 PM (13CQC)

201 My great grandfather (Irish) worked for the RR.
One of his jobs was to roust the drunks engineers and bring them to work.
He was a teetotaler.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 12:46 PM (W54U5)

202 If most pop musicians listened to talented people playing Orange Blossom Special, they might do the right thing and try another career.

The City of New Orleans is also good.
Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:27 AM (n13/j)

There is a metric fuckton of good train songs.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=f9yTqFWxHpA

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2019 12:46 PM (7njPr)

203 They try to dump it when they're between cities and at speed so its less likely to be a stinky mess in one spot where people are.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:42 PM (39g3+)


There was no tank. Just an open portal straight to the ground.

Posted by: Ex-ex at May 18, 2019 12:46 PM (RU4sa)

204 I have ridden Amtrack to Seattle several times and its slow but a nice ride. But they changed the cars, and the last time I went it wasn't so roomy, comfortable, and luxurious, it was more like airplane seating. They went to smaller, lighter, and cheaper cars and it showed

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2019 12:47 PM (39g3+)

205 A local Leftist took the train from Portland to Minneapolis for vacation, and of course put out a Tweet demanding high-speed rail. (He flew back, but he didn't Tweet about that.)

Portland to Minneapolis is farther than Paris to Moscow. Even with HSR, you are going to spending a long, long time on that train.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 12:48 PM (I2/tG)

206 There's a Big Boy and another big UP engine stationed on a bluff coming into Omaha on I 80. John Kennefick, a former CEO of UP, paid at least $1 mil to put them there.

They used to be in a little park area called, for some odd reason or another, Kennefick Park. The city of Omaha and UP got into a squabble over who should maintain it, so it turned into a weed patch.

One day, while I was still working for Waldens, Mr. Kennefick came in to look at some history books. He told me he was finding suggestions for what to get grandpa for Christmas because his grandkids had problems finding anything. Jokingly, I asked him "Well, what do you get the guy who owns his own park?" Without missing a beat, he shot back "A lawn mower!"

A couple years later, UP moved the engines from that little park to the spot on the bluff. It took all day and half the night. The flatbed carrying the Big Boy got stuck trying to make a 90° turn onto the street the new location was. I understand it took them hours to finally make that turn.

But it sure is impressive to see those huge engines up there on that bluff.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 18, 2019 12:49 PM (ebZss)

207 My fave train ride ever was through the mountains from Jasper to Vancouver, with an overnight in Kamloops for touristy stuff. That train is an engineering marvel.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 18, 2019 12:49 PM (Z216Q)

208 I Like Trains:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=jd34Ioye5v4

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2019 12:50 PM (7njPr)

209 And what, no love for Curtis Mayfield?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdKEbnS1eBE

Posted by: The Eponymous Hugh Tootooie at May 18, 2019 1