Wall Street Journal: Google Is Blacklisting Conservative News Sites, Despite Denials Made Under Oath

Reported by the Daily Mail, which recapitulates the WSJ reporting. (The WSJ is behind that annoying paywall.)

Google 'DOES blacklist sites, has targeted conservative news sites and changes its algorithms to favour big businesses,' claims new report - despite the tech giant's denials

The Wall Street Journal claims Google has been blacklisting sites

It also claims that conservative publications have been blacklisted

The WSJ claims that Google made algorithmic changes in favour big businesses over smaller ones including on behalf of a major advertiser, eBay

They claim the blacklist policy instructs engineers, known as 'maintainers', to focus on sites that actively aim to mislead

A Google spokesperson said the company does 'not manually determine the order of any search result'

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The WSJ report also claims that Google made algorithmic changes to its search results that favour big businesses over smaller ones, and in at least one case made changes on behalf of eBay, which is a major advertiser.

The company also boosts some major websites, such as Amazon and Facebook in search results, according to people familiar with the matter.

Google's engineers have also created blacklists to weed out more-incendiary suggestions in auto-complete, the feature that predicts search terms as the user types a query - particularly those relating to controversial subjects such as abortion or immigration.

The WSJ compared Duckduckgo and Google autocomplete results in Joe Biden, and found that 'creepy' was suggested every time by the former but never by Google.

Here's an example of that: I just googled "John Solomon" to find his most recent reporting, and his own blog, JohnSolomonReports.com.

Google answered my query with a page full of media hits on Solomon -- including from the ostensibly-authoritative trash website Daily Beast -- attacking his credibility.

The link to his actual blog did not appear on the first page of results. Frustrated, I opened Bing and searched there.

They do this deliberately. They claim "it's the algorithm," but the algorithm is made -- and repeatedly tweaked and biased -- by intentional human action.



And what does Heritage have to say about this -- you know, Heritage, the supposedly conservative organization?

The "conservative" organization which deceives old people into thinking Heritage will "fight for conservatism" if they include a generous bequeathment to this corrupt organization in their wills?

Well, they say: "Build your own internet, peons."

How original!



Now, I'm sure there's nothing in that suggestion that maybe Heritage is screwing over the old ladies they cadge into donating to them in order to favor the huge monopoly corporations that pay them off.

Except... yeah, Heritage has in fact been on Google's payroll for eight years.



So everybody, make sure you keep sending your money to these corrupt zombie organizations.

I mean, sure, they'll put your money and Google's money together and then strike a fair balance entirely in Google's favor, but do make sure you keep this gigantic DC donation-leech pink and plump with your blood.

68 In regards to the "build your own networks crowd"...Gab did that. I know some people don't like them because icky people use that site but they did it...and then:

Their hosting service dropped them.
Their backup hosting service dropped them.
Their domain registrar dropped them.
Their payment processor dropped them.

Every time they got a new system in place...boom, all of a sudden they got dropped by someone else.

It's almost like there's a concerted effort to control what you are permitted to see.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas

Well, wrongthinker, they're not telling you to build your own website. They're telling you to build your own internet, as well as your own credit-card payment transfer companies so that people can subscribe and donate.

All you need to do is make your own internet and your own banks.

And then hope that Google doesn't just pay its "conservative" allies enough to get them to lobby to make the new internet and new banks illegal.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:04 PM




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1 OT: first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (q80AH)

2 damn, so close...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (8D42x)

3 surprising no one.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 01:06 PM (so+oy)

4 Popped a flare. Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:06 PM (ob5xJ)

5 I think my mama read me this story one time. The Media That Cried Wolf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2019 01:07 PM (+y/Ru)

6 Lied under oath? Let's reward them with more H1Bs!

Posted by: Uniparty at November 20, 2019 01:07 PM (QsyhO)

7 This whole being bought by rich billionaires thing depresses me more than angers me.

I can ignore them fine, but it'd sure be nice to have some sort of intellectual organizations out there fighting for us, especially those with historical ties to the movement.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:07 PM (q80AH)

8 Google is the devil.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:07 PM (ob5xJ)

9 Algorithms are put on earth by a cruel moon god.

Posted by: Moon Moon from google at November 20, 2019 01:07 PM (U7k5w)

10 You will learn to love your oppressor Goolag.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (yRAFu)

11 You realize why the upper Midwest even HAS Democrats? Because the farmers who needed access to railroads or grain elevators were told to build their own.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (8erNz)

12 Can we charge Sundar Pichai with Totally Serious Lying to Congress?
Barr? Anyone?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (koNhm)

13 8 Google is the devil.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:07 PM (ob5xJ)

Don't be evil!!

Posted by: Moon Moon from google at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (U7k5w)

14 They lied!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (1NJJk)

15 We have a feature called "Sound Off" in our local rag. Someone challenged the readers to "google" the term "most trusted news source" and dare to report the answer.

I'm sure it's going to be CNN or some other garbage site. I just need a little ammo to blast back at the Sound Off asswipe - that is, presuming they are an asswipe.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (Ki5SV)

16 Many at Google really need to learn what oppression is. 10 years hard in a Siberian gulag. l

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (Dp5C+)

17 I remember not being able to autocomplete chappaquuddick with Ted Kennedy on G, and laughing to myself at what vile little assholes they are.

Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (7eoML)

18 Under oath doesn't mean a damned thing anymore. Feel free to lie your ass off at any time during your testimony. There will be zero repercussions.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (vtcmf)

19 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (8D42x)

20 Time to break up all monopolies.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (HRtgq)

21 We knew Google was doing this, it was as plain as the jet on Larry Page's runway.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (8erNz)

22 Ah, a perfect Democrat-type lie.

"We do not manually interfere with search results." Probably true, when narrowly defined. "We manually interfere with the algorithm that produces search results" is a slightly different point. They still lied, but they lied in a Congress-friendly way.

Kinda like "I didn't see The Dossier until the IC confab in December." He may well not have. "I saw all of the information in The Dossier, but not a compiled bundle of documents now referred to as 'The Dossier' at that time" is indeed slightly different.

Weasels all of them (with no offense to our weasel, who is not).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (I2dne)

23 Google id probably the worse of all of them. And This prick Wallace on FOX is almost as bad as anyone on cnn and msnbc

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (cEsBM)

24 There have been so many examples of this - Tulsi Gabbard during the debate, Steven Crowder's videos suppressed from searches - why is this still going on unimpeded???

I am so very tired of this "not us, the algorithm" as if people didn't build these GD algorithms.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)

25 Hmm. Google says "most trusted news source" is The Economist. Didn't expect that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (Ki5SV)

26 Duck Duck Go

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (flINI)

27 I looked up the basis for Jussie Smollet's claim in his suit against Chicago for Malicious Prosecution. Apparently it is all based on Jussie's claim that the two brothers who have confessed to the attack, and who were found with some of the items used in the "attack", actually had nothing to do with it, and that the City of Chicago talked them into making a fake confession just to make Jussie look bad.

Seriously, that's his claim.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (Kpl3J)

28 I stopped donating to the HF when they shit-canned DeMint (who may, or may not, have had it coming - never been clear to me). Still get almost monthly requests to "renew my membership".

Last month I wrote them back stating in gruesome detail why I cannot ever envision a reason why I would ever send them another dime of my take-home pay. Reaboi's tweet, above, pretty much summarizes the first point I made.

They're slightly less of a grift than was KristolMeth and Jonah the Whale, bot only slightly.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (DU2N9)

29 I use DuckDuckGo for searches. Been doing so for years. Google collects enough on me without me being an active participant in it.

And Google's motto of "don't be evil"... you know who has to remind themselves to not be evil? People doing evil things.

Posted by: can of spam at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (g0aRc)

30 We should though build a social media site / search engine just for the purpose of banning any inkling of liberal thought. That's how you get the politician's to pay attention and do something about equal access .

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (2DOZq)

31 @18 " Under oath doesn't mean a damned thing anymore. Feel free to lie your ass off at any time during your testimony. There will be zero repercussions."

Actually Good Ol' Wm Jefferson helped moved the Overton Window on that in my opinion. When the left had to choose between preserving the value of a legal oath vs giving one of their own a mulligan you could practically hear societal norms creaking and shifting. They were right to impeach him for lying, wrong not to remove.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (koNhm)

32 Many at Google really need to learn what oppression is. 10 years hard in a Siberian gulag. l

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (Dp5C+)

with all the H1Bs working there you'd think they'd be familiar with the concept...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (8D42x)

33 25 Hmm. Google says "most trusted news source" is The Economist. Didn't expect that.

They're warmists, remainers, they hew to the Establishment line up and down.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (8erNz)

34 Listening to Rush on WBAP. The top of the hour news just spouted exact democrat talking points about the hearing.

Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (XTiHL)

35 Seriously, that's his claim.
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Sounds reasonable to me!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge Transplant to Chicago at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (QsyhO)

36 23 Google id probably the worse of all of them. And This prick Wallace on FOX is almost as bad as anyone on cnn and msnbc
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Chris is but one more nepot that we are supposed to revere. Our criminal class have taken up aristocratic practices.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (yRAFu)

37 Social Credit is good for you comrade.

Posted by: Abzod at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (P/aDH)

38 Gee, bailing on the 'Don't be evil' motto was a big clue for me.

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (X+a7J)

39 Well time for lunch.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (Dp5C+)

40 28 I stopped donating to the HF when they shit-canned DeMint (who may, or may not, have had it coming - never been clear to me). Still get almost monthly requests to "renew my membership".

Same here - they used to have good ideas, now it looks like they're only interested in milking that cash cow as long as they can.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (Kpl3J)

41 33 25 Hmm. Google says "most trusted news source" is The Economist. Didn't expect that.

They're warmists, remainers, they hew to the Establishment line up and down.
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It once was good. But that was in the 1970s.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (yRAFu)

42 I use DuckDuckGo for searches. Been doing so for years. Google collects enough on me without me being an active participant in it.

And Google's motto of "don't be evil"... you know who has to remind themselves to not be evil? People doing evil things.
Posted by: can of spam at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (g0aRc)
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DDG (and their short-form URL of 'ddg.gg' - which is easier to type) works well. I still revert to Google for purely technical searches I need to do my job. Google still seems to do a better job on the focused technical queries. At this point, many others are better in the other areas.

And they walked back that "don't be evil" slogan a long time ago. It has vanished.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (I2dne)

43 This whole being bought by rich billionaires thing depresses me more than angers me.
..........
The media has been owned (and thus the message) by billionaires since the beginning of this country!

Nothing new here..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (so+oy)

44 They're being very naughty. I wonder when they will turn on the Democrats for being insufficiently politically reliable?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (hLRSq)

45 Google's new motto: F*ck it, be evil!

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (g+JC1)

46 Google has paid off every politician in DC. I see this going no where.

Posted by: Galil at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (Pzzpr)

47 12 Can we charge Sundar Pichai with Totally Serious Lying to Congress?
Barr? Anyone?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (koNhm)

I doubt if Pelosi would go for this

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (U7k5w)

48 I don't use the googler, but I had a terrible time getting rid of it as my search engine and it still tries to sneak in occasionally.

Posted by: huerfano at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (9dnxb)

49 Blue and White leader Benny Gantz informed President Reuven Rivlin on Wednesday evening that he did not succeed in forming a governing coalition.
Gantz returned the mandate four hours before the midnight deadline.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (cEsBM)

50 Listening to Rush on WBAP. The top of the hour news just spouted exact democrat talking points about the hearing.

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Not only have the walls moved in, they have collapsed.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (sX1BW)

51 with all the H1Bs working there you'd think they'd be familiar with the concept...

So when we start hijacking the white buses and herding them into pens they'll be familiar with the drill and won't protest too much?

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (8erNz)

52 It's beyond an algorithm. Google maintains a curated blacklist of sites that they will never show results for, including Infowars and the Daily Stormer. Whatever the SPLC decides people should never be allowed to see.

This is why I have to laugh whenever anyone is aghast at the Chinese or Iranians censoring their internet, as if it's not happening in America. It's just been outsourced to the private sector.

Posted by: KRockFM at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (FdFwH)

53 34 Listening to Rush on WBAP. The top of the hour news just spouted exact democrat talking points about the hearing.
Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (XTiHL)

And this is what most people are hearing and reading.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (U7k5w)

54 Anti-Trust, plox.

Also, make every employee register as a Foreign Agent of the Chinese Government.

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (UnA8+)

55 And now they have all your health records.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (uGHnY)

56 >>"We do not manually interfere with search results." Probably true, when
narrowly defined. "We manually interfere with the algorithm that
produces search results" is a slightly different point. They still lied,
but they lied in a Congress-friendly way.


They maintain blacklists, which affect what is included in the search results.

And of course they do, because other countries' governments, such as China, require them too. The technology, the capability exists. They're just getting all creative with it here in the US.

I'd also like to know who in US government they are in contact with re: influencing search results, suspending YT content, etc. Enough Democrats have openly demanding tech companies do this openly for there not to be a lot more happening behind the scenes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (bDqIh)

57 Top 75!

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (gmo/4)

58 31 @18 " Under oath doesn't mean a damned thing anymore. Feel free to lie your ass off at any time during your testimony. There will be zero repercussions."

Actually Good Ol' Wm Jefferson helped moved the Overton Window on that in my opinion. When the left had to choose between preserving the value of a legal oath vs giving one of their own a mulligan you could practically hear societal norms creaking and shifting. They were right to impeach him for lying, wrong not to remove.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (koNhm)

There's another, long term factor. Oaths made sense in a society where the vast majority of the people had deep religious beliefs. Even though they differ, just about all religions agree about the seriousness of oaths and such.

But in a society where no one believes in anything beyond themselves, what's an oath? Just words, nothing more. No better, no worse than any other words. Nice if it makes foolish people think you're serious.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (Kpl3J)

59 Google id probably the worse of all of them. And This prick Wallace on FOX is almost as bad as anyone on cnn and msnbc

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (cEsBM)

Outside of their evening lineup, FNC is virtually indistinguishable from CNN and MSDNC.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (DU2N9)

60 Google lied?!?
Oh, no...

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (XiQ9r)

61 I use DuckDuckGo for searches. Been doing so for years. Google collects enough on me without me being an active participant in it.
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Posted by: can of spam at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (g0aRc)
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This was the greatest bald-faced "lie lie" that Google and Facebook told at the congressional hearings last year. They asserted that they can do what they want because their users accepted their terms of service. When asked directly if they compile information on people *who are not members* and use it, they all said no.

That was a lie. Their cookies and social media buttons track you constantly. I am not a Facebook user, so they don't explicitly know who I am necessarily, but they sure know all about me thanks to all of the cookies and pingbacks. I never agreed to their terms of service, yet they still have a probably very complete dossier on me.

When they got away with telling such an obvious lie, the fix was very clearly in. The state prefers the informal social credit system and treasure-trove databases that these fuckers are building far more than they prefer justice, honesty, liberty, etc.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (I2dne)

62 I listen to some podcasts run by liberals that don't directly involve politics. One in particular is a philosophy podcast called Very Bad Wizards which I find entertaining.

One thing I found interesting is that on multiple occasions, they've talked about articles written by people in tech on topics like self-driving cars or whatever, where somebody has to write a program that would have to make an ethical decision. They've expressed exacerbation when the people in tech doing these things say things like "It's nonpartisan" or "we're not making an ethical judgement, we're just following the science" even when the actual results end up being the ones they agree with. It seems like lots of people in tech have such a poor philosophical foundation that they don't even realize that they are making philosophical and ethical assumptions that come out in the way they write their code.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (KUaJL)

63 Google needs to be broken up. Search functions are so ubiquitous as to be functionally a utility. Put the government in charge of it. They'll still try to skew everything, they'll just be way less competent at it.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (jp0Bv)

64 The media has been owned (and thus the message) by billionaires since the beginning of this country!

You know how the CIA has that wall of awards that no one gets to see?

Well, we have one too (you think we'd let the CIA get one up on us?) and we've got Mary Bono Mack, Dianne Feinstein, and Fritz Hollings on ours...

Posted by: Disney at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (8erNz)

65 I didn't shoot him.
I manually interfered with the bang switch what did it.

Posted by: Totes Honest Sundar Pichai totally not lying to Congress at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (koNhm)

66 18 "Under oath doesn't mean a damned thing anymore. Feel free to lie your ass off at any time during your testimony. There will be zero repercussions."

This has been on full display in the current impeachment farce.

But it's worse that just lack of repercussions -- it's the expectation that your buddies working the back end of the system will "fix" things so that your lies become Truth substantiated by the authoritative factual record.

This has been the entire play of the Russian-Ukraine plot -- establish a narrative circle jerk and have some guys write up the authoritative facts to justify it. The only reason it hasn't worked is that they're lazy and incompetent.

But just wait until the DeepFake tech gets to a degree of convenience where they can just fabricate anything wholesale...you know they're thinking it; you know that's the next step. It's been the "next step" since Stalin's airbrushed photos...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (Hi8cV)

67 Duck duck go user here.

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

68 In regards to the "build your own networks crowd"...Gab did that. I know some people don't like them because icky people use that site but they did it...and then:

Their hosting service dropped them.
Their backup hosting service dropped them.
Their domain registrar dropped them.
Their payment processor dropped them.

Every time they got a new system in place...boom, all of a sudden they got dropped by someone else.

It's almost like there's a concerted effort to control what you are permitted to see.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (xQfPr)

69 I've been using Duckduckgo for a long time now and I'm very happy with it.

Posted by: Bitter Klinger at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (AZ4Ye)

70 Outside of their evening lineup, FNC is virtually indistinguishable from CNN and MSDNC.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (DU2N9)

there was a time I would have argued with you on that. There was a time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 01:17 PM (cEsBM)

71 There's another, long term factor. Oaths made sense in a society where the vast majority of the people had deep religious beliefs. Even though they differ, just about all religions agree about the seriousness of oaths and such.

But in a society where no one believes in anything beyond themselves, what's an oath? Just words, nothing more. No better, no worse than any other words. Nice if it makes foolish people think you're serious.

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Take it a step further. Where one side's religion is their progressive belief. To side against them - even in search of the truth - is blasphemy.

In their perverted belief system, it would be immoral to lie if it meant going against the progressive worldview.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 01:17 PM (sX1BW)

72

Old Gooogl: Don't be evil.

New Gooogl: Don't be evil. That's our job.

Posted by: mindful webworker - spit in the ocean at November 20, 2019 01:17 PM (5RITs)

73 They maintain blacklists, which affect what is included in the search results.

And of course they do, because other countries' governments, such as China, require them too. The technology, the capability exists. They're just getting all creative with it here in the US.

I'd also like to know who in US government they are in contact with re: influencing search results, suspending YT content, etc. Enough Democrats have openly demanding tech companies do this openly for there not to be a lot more happening behind the scenes.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (bDqIh)
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Yup. The blacklist is part of the algorithm and thus "not manual."

Make the entire population of Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. register under FARA and disclose. If what they're doing isn't lobbying at the grandest scale imaginable, I don't know what else would qualify.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:17 PM (I2dne)

74 The conservative case for soul-selling whores taking a paycheck (definitely not to be confused with grifting or quid pro quoing).

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:17 PM (bJ1Sx)

75 "Joe Biden gropes little girls." Vox is first link. Yep. Virtual dictatorship.

Posted by: Dennis the Peasant at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (BrfST)

76 It's duck duck go for me too.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (U7k5w)

77 >>67
Duck duck go user here.

I believe Google bought them a few months ago.

StartPage user here.

Posted by: Galil at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (Pzzpr)

78 Googles maths just doesn't add up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msDuNZyYAIQ

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (HRtgq)

79 Google lied?

Next you'll tell me Youtube isn't demonetizing conservative channels and Facebook is censoring and removing accounts of prominent conservatives.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (qC1Sy)

80 Look, I agree with the philosophy that if you don't like the behavior of Google (or Facebook, or Twitter)...you should create your own platform to further competitive capitalism thus creating a more fluid market that forces the offending entities to change their ways or get pigeon holed into a smaller niche.

Here's the problem. Silicon Valley is conspiring together to assure that is an impossibility. When an upstart challenges one of their chosen group, the other entities circle the wagons and disallow that new company a foothold. For example, Paypal will refuse to do business with them as will every other "chosen" payment processing entity. It's textbook violation of the RICO Act. The only way to compete on a lucrative level would be for a massive investment in the process. You'd need your own server farms. You'd need your own payment processing. And, of course, you would require you own innovative software platform. And, if you think Silicon Valley won't orchestrate an aggressive Civil Suit barrage challenging every single aspect of your platform as a violation of their own patented software, you are fooling yourself. They have a stranglehold on all potential competition simply because they conspire to do so. And, no one tells them they are breaking the law in that regard...so they keep doing it and stifling the free market....purposefully.

Posted by: Orson at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (V+o6A)

81 Babylon Bee is best snark

Posted by: jsg at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (C7gze)

82 Algorithms?, Yea Senator, the Family has a lot of Algorithms.

Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (FhXTo)

83 yeah, too many fake conservative outfits are going the way National Review went back in 1990 or so, when they denounced Americanism and exiled Patriots that believed in God and Country instead of NR's Global Free Trade mantra.

(and actually, these "zombie conservative orgs" are not really zombies ... they were enemy sleeper agents from the get go, imo. But zombie in that their false identity is now dead, yet they keep pretending to be alive)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (Cus5s)

84 Google has a American Indian Network.

https://tinyurl.com/tyd2mqp

The company I work for actually installed and maintains the service for this community. Doesn't look like they are mentioned in most of the articles.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (JKNZq)

85 The Heritage Foundation has a well-earned reputation for the seriousness and practicality they bring to issues that directly impact whether we can go forward as a country the is roughly akin to bringing a dull-pointed Sharpie to a bar fight.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (DU2N9)

86 >>I can ignore them fine, but it'd sure be nice to have some sort of
intellectual organizations out there fighting for us, especially those
with historical ties to the movement.



Project Veritas

I know, not a think tank, but O'Keefe is not only catching them, but he's amassing an army of disaffected media and tech workers who now work for *him* now. Not academia, publict intellectuals/pontificators, but insiders with firsthand knowledge and experience.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (bDqIh)

87
Many at Google really need to learn what oppression is. 10 years hard in a Siberian gulag. l

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (Dp5C+)

with all the H1Bs working there you'd think they'd be familiar with the concept...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:11 PM (8D42x)







Of course, every stinkin' Chinese H1B holder in the US only has it because the ChiCom junta has determined that they are politically reliable enough to work overseas.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (kw0bd)

88 In regards to the "build your own networks crowd"...Gab did that. I know some people don't like them because icky people use that site but they did it...and then:

Their hosting service dropped them.
Their backup hosting service dropped them.
Their domain registrar dropped them.
Their payment processor dropped them.

Every time they got a new system in place...boom, all of a sudden they got dropped by someone else.

It's almost like there's a concerted effort to control what you are permitted to see.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 01:16 PM (xQfPr)
++++++++++++++++
Yes, this is a crucial point. You *can't* "build your own" because they will corner you and kick you out every time.

Most of these companies are monopolies or near-monopolies in their own spaces.

Together, though, they form a cartel. The actively collude in restraint of trade.

You can't swing a cat in Silicon Valley without hitting an antitrust violation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (I2dne)

89 > They claim "it's the algorithm," but the algorithm is made -- and repeatedly tweaked and biased -- by intentional human action.


Yes. The "it's the algorithm" nonsense fools only idiots and members of Congress (but I repeat myself).
if(site-is-not-full-communist){ pagerank = 100000000000000;}

That's an algorithm.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (oQp6r)

90 Heritage, huh. I rank them right up there with AEI as corporatist tools. From wiki:

The health insurance mandate in the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, is an idea hatched in 1989 by Stuart Butler at Heritage in a publication titled "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans".[26] This was also the model for Mitt Romney's health care plan in Massachusetts.[27]

Yeah, thanks a bunch, Heritage. When DeMint left the Senate in 2012 to head up the joint, I had some hopes for the place, but the insiders finally ran him off in 2017. He probably had too many icky conservative ideas. That just won't do.

As to Google, Fuck Google. I think that should be their full name.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (Z4rgH)

91 And Google's motto of "don't be evil"... you know who has to remind themselves to not be evil? People doing evil things.

In fairness, they define evil as conservative.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 01:19 PM (xQfPr)

92 Those algorithms are strong swimmers.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 01:20 PM (HRtgq)

93 Back in 2016 typing in google

Hillary Clinton Cr(imes) returned Hillary Clinton Creme Brulee Recipe

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2019 01:20 PM (JFO2v)

94 It's not "blacklisting", it's a "listing of color."

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 01:20 PM (7HtZB)

95 12 xnycpeasant

I'm pretty upset that Stone will be imprisoned for the rest of his life for lying to Congress over nothing of substance, but all the tech oligarchs blatantly lie about important matters and they are untouchable.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 01:20 PM (ZZDMQ)

96 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan. With Jen Rubin declaringin 2017 at WAPO that the Gay Marriage debate had been Won!

Forget the CA votes, the will of the people...the debate had been declared won by the bought and paid for Conservatives!!! A mere two years later, people here agree. It make one wonder if it really was a matter of principle for you, or exactly what Justice kennedy accused you of. You suck, Boomers.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:20 PM (Fxgkp)

97 They claim "it's the algorithm..."

Right.

Everything a computer of any kind does at any level is following hard or soft code - algorithms.

It's not impersonal. So many times a week I encounter some failure of high-tech ware and, you know, it's not the hardware as a rule.

"Blame the programmers." -Guru Radd Dadd

Posted by: mindful webworker - well short my circuits and call me vaporware at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (5RITs)

98 Google aggregators.
I pull development permits in the Houston area for several clients. As such my name and phone number show up as the contact for the developments.

Google aggregators cull through the local records, forward the data to Google and the annoying calls come rolling in from all over the country.

"Please do not hang up. Your business is not registered with Google..."

Every now and then I will go ahead and play along and a real person will come on if I push enough buttons. They tell me they have available front page space if I will register (pay).

I tell them I don't want to be registered. "But you will not be able to attract new customers if your business isn't registered!" They helpfully explain.

When I tell them I don't want any new customers they don't know what to say.

Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (XTiHL)

99
OT/

Sondland is weak. A scared puppy who is so eager not to commit perjury he is reflexively agreeing to characterizations of OTHER people's testimony and speculations.

And hiis body language is terrible! Fidgety as fuck.

And why the fuck give an opening statement at all? Make the questioners waste time drawing out those details.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (Xqo6t)

100 Hillary Clinton Cr(imes) returned Hillary Clinton Creme Brulee Recipe

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She sent it to Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (sX1BW)

101 >>
Look, I agree with the philosophy that if you don't like the behavior of
Google (or Facebook, or Twitter)...you should create your own platform
to further competitive capitalism thus creating a more fluid market that
forces the offending entities to change their ways or get pigeon holed
into a smaller niche.

Here's the problem. Silicon Valley is conspiring together to assure that is an impossibility.




Yep. just look at how Gab and 8kun have been attacked/kneecapped at every turn.


Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (bDqIh)

102 Of course, every stinkin' Chinese H1B holder in the US only has it because the ChiCom junta has determined that they are politically reliable enough to work overseas.

Not entirely true, but not far off.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:22 PM (8erNz)

103 I feel an algorithm brewing.

Posted by: Eric Fartswell at November 20, 2019 01:22 PM (vtcmf)

104 Well, they say: "Build your own internet, peons."

So build your own infrastructure, network, etc. Yeah, that'll work.

Not. Serious.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:22 PM (DU2N9)

105 "Google answered my query with a page full of media hits on Solomon -- including from the ostensibly-authoritative trash website Daily Beast -- attacking his credibility."


Doesn't kept man Matt K. Lewis work for The Daily Beast? He is their gimp. They pull him out of his cage to bash conservatives and then shove him back in.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2019 01:22 PM (OD2ni)

106 > "Please do not hang up. Your business is not registered with Google..."


Some, probably most, of those are scam artists pretending to be Google.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:22 PM (oQp6r)

107 Outside of their evening lineup, FNC is virtually indistinguishable from CNN and MSDNC.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:15 PM (DU2N9)

there was a time I would have argued with you on that. There was a time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 01:17 PM


FN Radio is now indistinguishable from MSNBC. It's painful to listen to.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 01:22 PM (ejd/p)

108 SH, I called wpab about their news cast claiming PDT had a shadow government in Ukraine.

I asked if any of them had ever read the Constitution. They pulled the report right after my call.

Call the news tip hotline and Tell Them.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2019 01:23 PM (fmXEO)

109 The lawyers running my late mother-in-law's foundation just distributed 13 million dollars the other night at a ceremony remembering her.

That was suppose to be my lying on the beach money.

No, I didn't attend. I share Ace's disgust at old ladies writing checks.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 01:23 PM (U6f/q)

110 2 AM No Knock raids on all of them for lying to congress.

New rules

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 20, 2019 01:23 PM (pw+jk)

111 >>> The "conservative" organization which deceives old people into thinking Heritage will "fight for conservatism" if they include a generous bequeathment to this corrupt organization in their wills?
Well, they say: "Build your own internet, peons."

Apparently the fun pedes at The_Donald are seeing signs on the wall that Reddit is laying the groundwork to kill their sub entirely, not just quarantine it, because they dared post the whistleblower's name there. (Never mind other Reddit subs posted his name and aren't being threatened the same way. The left never plays fair.)

They are looking at alternate platforms like Discord. but it sucks the left created a monopoly on social media, or turn supposedly neutral social media platforms into the leftist borg.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:23 PM (hvf9s)

112

Never donated to them.


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 01:24 PM (vEIlU)

113 Sondland is weak. A scared puppy who is so eager not to commit perjury he is reflexively agreeing to characterizations of OTHER people's testimony and speculations.

I heard some of his testimony earlier on NPR, he sounds like a truly useless human being.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:24 PM (8erNz)

114 > And Google's motto of "don't be evil"

They dropped that motto around the time they went into the advertising business.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:24 PM (oQp6r)

115 You know when I KNEW google was evil?
When google ran a marketing campaign to say don't be evil.
Good people don't do that. Evil people do that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 20, 2019 01:26 PM (pw+jk)

116 ----
Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (XTiHL)


Wow, you've got a whole lot more patience than I do. I have an ancient and heavy steel desk and I usually wait to hear which number to push for a real person. When they pick up I whack the talking end of the receiver against the desk 3 or 4 times, then hang up. Work for an evil company, win hearing loss.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 20, 2019 01:26 PM (kUmUV)

117 96 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan. With Jen Rubin declaringin 2017 at WAPO that the Gay Marriage debate had been Won!

Forget the CA votes, the will of the people...the debate had been declared won by the bought and paid for Conservatives!!! A mere two years later, people here agree. It make one wonder if it really was a matter of principle for you, or exactly what Justice kennedy accused you of. You suck, Boomers.
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:20 PM (Fxgkp)


Oh fuck you. A single quote from the blind squirrel finding a nut and we're in love with him? Bull shit.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (SjIcT)

118 If you really want to be unsettled by big tech, watch this recent PBS Frontline episode on AI.


Frontline: In the Age of AI
Season 2019, Episode 5 --- FRONTLINE
investigates the promise and perils of artificial intelligence, from
fears about work and privacy to rivalry between the U.S. and China. The
documentary traces a new industrial revolution that will reshape and
disrupt our lives, our jobs and our world, and allow the emergence of
the surveillance society.https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyqptk79

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (bDqIh)

119 106 > "Please do not hang up. Your business is not registered with Google..."

Hang up on anyone who says not to hang up. Simple as that.

Unless it's that ex-girlfriend from thirty years ago.

Weird experience: my first real girlfriend had a somewhat unusual first name, and I had occasion to see that name calendared for a meeting somewhere I was going to be. I spent hours pondering...in the end, it wasn't.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (8erNz)

120 Free enterprise is not the answer when there is not a level playing
field. This is just corporate overlords imposing there will on the
defenseless without the defenseless being aware of whats going
on, which makes it even more insidious.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (u6xw0)

121 According to the knowledgeable commentators over at Democratic Underground, the walls are coming off and the wheels are closing in on "Drumpf".

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (qzF84)

122 Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
3h
Trivia: Robert Luskin, who is the Sondland lawyer sitting to his right, is also representing Stefan Halper.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (BqBId)

123 Republic status:

Dead [X]
Not Dead [ ]

Posted by: Guzalot at November 20, 2019 01:28 PM (prSvo)

124 117 Oh fuck you. A single quote from the blind squirrel finding a nut and we're in love with him? Bull shit.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (SjIcT)

It just comes off as "Everyone's a troll but meeeee! I'm the last true Groyperrrrrr!" crap.

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 01:28 PM (UnA8+)

125 I got something for google to search. *bbblllaaaaappppp*

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at November 20, 2019 01:28 PM (9c5tq)

126 Pixie very picky today.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 20, 2019 01:28 PM (u6xw0)

127 121 According to the knowledgeable commentators over at Democratic Underground, the walls are coming off and the wheels are closing in on "Drumpf".
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (qzF84)

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"He'll be gone by Thanksgiving and Romney will be the deciding vote to give House Democrats the bare majority to remove Trump from office. This vote will also take out Pence, giving the presidency to Nancy."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:28 PM (q80AH)

128 117 96 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan. With Jen Rubin declaringin 2017 at WAPO that the Gay Marriage debate had been Won!

Andrew Sullivan is one rung above David Frum.

Presumably Frum has his tongue out.

You can all return to your lunches now.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:28 PM (8erNz)

129 > Work for an evil company, win hearing loss.

Again, those are bush-league scammers, not Google.

Google doesn't sell guaranteed "front page rank", at least not at a price you or I can afford.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (oQp6r)

130 American Enterprise Institute
The Heritage Foundation
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce


What do these 3 organizations have in common?

Posted by: monkey at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (CLteG)

131 tl;dr...right?

why bother, perjury laws only get applied to republicans.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (FEQY4)

132 They do this deliberately. They claim "it's the algorithm," but the algorithm is made -- and repeatedly tweaked and biased -- by intentional human action.

When I worked for the psychopaths, the firm did a lot of tractor trailer litigation. Document retention was always a huge fight and the companies never ever ever kept the documents that were supposed to be kept. The response every time was "The computer deletes that automatically."

Yeah. No. The computer program which was purchased by the company and with settings determined by the IT administrator executed the programming functions that were programmed by actual human beings.

There is no such thing as "the computer did it".

Outlook is still possessed by demons tho.

Oh and any article about build your own social network/search engine/ISP/banking system that does not include a discussion of what happened to GAB when GAB did exactly that is not a serious article.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (mf5HN)

133 Nuke Silicon Valley.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (NWiLs)

134 Who's the turkey baster?

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (RU4sa)

135 I heard some of his testimony earlier on NPR, he sounds like a truly useless human being.
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Well, then he's perfectly suited for his workplace.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (vg8iE)

136 You can sort give Heritage a pass because they've almost literally never seen a mega-corporation that they think should be broken up. It's a Reagan-era ideological legacy to oppose any and all anti-trust enforcement.

But Zombie Reaganism just doesn't have the answers to the current Big Tech monopolies with their potential(?) stranglehold on information itself.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (hdzef)

137 > Presumably Frum has his tongue out.


Frum needs to be declared persona non grata and deported back to Canada.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (oQp6r)

138 135 I heard some of his testimony earlier on NPR, he sounds like a truly useless human being.
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Well, then he's perfectly suited for his workplace.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (vg8iE)

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I should apply to the State Department...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (q80AH)

139 I saw Gigantic DC Donation-Leech Pink and Plump open for the Freelance Whales at the Himalayan Yak in '09.

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (iOigv)

140 Cool - just discovered that Trump will be a block away this afternoon. Going to wander over and see how many protesters show up.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (lD3vL)

141 Nuke Silicon Valley.
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I tried....

Posted by: Max Zorin at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (vg8iE)

142 Trivia: Robert Luskin, who is the Sondland lawyer sitting to his right, is also representing Stefan Halper.

Sometimes I think that the solution to DC is much like the solution to, say, Chicago gang crime.

There's a hundred people who are responsible for 50% of the evil, and if you just took them out and shot them, you'd fix most of the problem.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (8erNz)

143 I just tried the John Solomon thing. Wow.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (E+OcO)

144 134 Who's the turkey baster?
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (RU4sa)

Sasha and Malaria's daddy.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

145 and here are the results of search for "john solomon" on duckduckgo:

john solomon the hill

john solomon wikipedia

john solomon twitter

john solomon reports

john solomon muckrake

john solomon washington times

etc., etc.

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (Pg+x7)

146 Speaking of google...


Fun fact:

For those wondering what's up with Drudge, drudge sold controlling interests in his site to a google controlled websense company.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (lgAXm)

147 >>> articles written by people in tech on topics like self-driving cars or whatever, where somebody has to write a program that would have to make an ethical decision. They've expressed exacerbation when the people in tech doing these things say things like "It's nonpartisan" or "we're not making an ethical judgement, we're just following the science" even when the actual results end up being the ones they agree with.

I will not be surprised if "run anyone over wearing a MAGA hat" gets programmed into the code for self driving cars.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (hvf9s)

148 142
Sometimes I think that the solution to DC is much like the solution to, say, Chicago gang crime.

There's a hundred people who are responsible for 50% of the evil, and if you just took them out and shot them, you'd fix most of the problem.
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (8erNz)

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This is the hope of what the IG Report and Durham's work will lead to.

Fingers crossed!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (q80AH)

149 ... (in order)

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (Pg+x7)

150 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan.

I'm not gay and so never will be in love with Andrew Sullivan.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (WI7YS)

151 OT but bwahaha -- Now the ex-mayor can write a new 'best seller', suggested title

Healthy Holly Figures Out How To Eat Right In Prison

Former Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh has been indicted on federal charges of wire fraud, tax evasion, and conspiracy to defraud the US, reported Fox 45 News Baltimore.

Pugh went missing in April after the FBI and IRS raided her home amid speculation, she was involved in a brazen kickback scheme involving sales of her "Healthy Holly" book series.

via ZH.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (Z4rgH)

152 DM, this is like... the lamest shadowrun campaign ever.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (KUaJL)

153 If the answer to someone who doesn't like Google's behavior and wants it changed is "go create your own (giant search engine)"....

...and Shaun King doesn't like the behavior of white Christian males...

...can I then tell him "go build your own (developed Western democracy)"...?

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (lTllX)

154 Nuke Silicon Valley.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:29 PM (NWiLs)

There was a City Councilman who wished he could do just that back in the 70s to eliminate the area's sprawling suburbs.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (htJYU)

155 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan.

I'm not gay and so never will be in love with Andrew Sullivan.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (WI7YS)


Heh.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (aS1PU)

156 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan.

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Who?

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (RU4sa)

157 Frum needs to be declared persona non grata and deported back to Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=Eu_d32N1HY0

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (8erNz)

158
Fun fact:

For those wondering what's up with Drudge, drudge sold controlling interests in his site to a google controlled websense company.
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how much gin can you buy with 100 million bucks?

Posted by: i'm guessing more than i can drink at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (foYbO)

159 156 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan.

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Who?
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (RU4sa)

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It's a collective guilt.

Now, FEEL BAD!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (q80AH)

160 From "Don't Be Evil: How Big Tech Betrayed It's Founding Principles."

"As John Battelle, who helped launch Wired magazine, once put it to me, 'The tech community doesn't have a good perspective on itself. We aren't humanissts or philosophers. We are engineers. To Google and Facebook, people are alogorithms.' ..."

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (Cus5s)

161 how much gin can you buy with 100 million bucks?
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Not nearly enough.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (vg8iE)

162 I should apply to the State Department...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (q80AH)

_______


The first disqualifying interview question taking on their lie-detector: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party?"

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (iOigv)

163 Hmm, Ukraine MP's demand Trump and Zelenski investigate Ukraine - US corruption, 7.4 billion.

Posted by: teej at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (bIS0g)

164 Apparently Dana Perino was raised on a Fruit Ranch in Wyoming.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (yDWtO)

165 159 156 I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan.

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Who?
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (RU4sa)

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It's a collective guilt.

Now, FEEL BAD!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (q80AH)

That's pretty much my default state so that's not fair!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (NWiLs)

166 Trivia: Robert Luskin, who is the Sondland lawyer sitting to his right, is also representing Stefan Halper.
The Lutefisk guy represents Steven Sondheim and Stephen Harper? Damn

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (n13/j)

167 162 I should apply to the State Department...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (q80AH)

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The first disqualifying interview question taking on their lie-detector: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party?"
Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (iOigv)

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"Never."
-100% truth. I've never lived in a state that required party registration

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (q80AH)

168 I will not be surprised if "run anyone over wearing a MAGA hat" gets programmed into the code for self driving cars.
Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:31 PM (hvf9s)



A year or so back, maybe a bit more, there was this web game going around twitter about oh hey go play with this thing where you have to decide who to plow down if your car goes out of control!

I went through two questions and said to myself, self, this is research for programmers of AI on self driving cars and that's not being disclosed to see how people will really respond.

Yuuuuuuuuppppp. Turned out to be a (an?) MIT experiment.

What the researchers discovered is that, when it is presented as a game, a pretty significant number of people will choose to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (mf5HN)

169 Use duckduckgo.com

You can set them as your default search engine

Posted by: Greg Q at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (/0a60)

170 Apparently Dana Perino was raised on a Fruit Ranch in Wyoming.
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I went to a Fruit Ranch once. Didn't shit right for a month!

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (vg8iE)

171 The first disqualifying interview question taking on their lie-detector: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party?"
Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (iOigv)

Yeah, but... *leans in and whispers* I'm not like one of those republicans.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (KUaJL)

172 Need some help here. How do I send a link to a specific thread. I want to have someone see the moon moon thread and I'm such a klutz I'll never get it right?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (fmXEO)

173 "According to the knowledgeable commentators over at Democratic Underground, the walls are coming off and the wheels are closing in on "Drumpf".
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (qzF84)"


I have not visited that sewer since the Bush years. They were always being scammed by grifters promising they were "10 dollars away from bringing Bush down." Does that fat drunk Will Pitt still post there?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM (OD2ni)

174 Be loud. Be proud.

Posted by: Eric the Swal at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM (qzF84)

175 >>> "As John Battelle, who helped launch Wired magazine, once put it to me, 'The tech community doesn't have a good perspective on itself. We aren't humanissts or philosophers. We are engineers. To Google and Facebook, people are alogorithms.' ..."

So they are finally admitting that all the major tech gurus are psychopaths...

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM (hvf9s)

176 It's a collective guilt.

Now, FEEL BAD!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (q80AH)

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Sorry, I'm currently riding the Nope train to Fuckthatville.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM (RU4sa)

177 Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (RU4sa)

The gay guy/writer who was sort of , vaguely, somewhat conservative at one time and then was who was fixated on Sarah Palin's uterus,laiming Trig wasn't her son and who apparently said something sort of conservative yesterday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM (WI7YS)

178 What the researchers discovered is that, when it is presented as a game, a pretty significant number of people will choose to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (mf5HN)


Children and elderly are worth the most points.

Posted by: Frankenstein at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (wCmLp)

179 175 >>> "As John Battelle, who helped launch Wired magazine, once put it to me, 'The tech community doesn't have a good perspective on itself. We aren't humanissts or philosophers. We are engineers. To Google and Facebook, people are alogorithms.' ..."

So they are finally admitting that all the major tech gurus are psychopaths...
Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM (hvf9s)

========

Patrick Batemans all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (q80AH)

180 The first disqualifying interview question taking on their lie-detector: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party?"
Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:33 PM (iOigv)
++++++++++++++++
"Yes, but I left the party and registered independent when I learned that they were a bunch of mewling totalitarians just like the other party, but were lying somewhat more effectively.

Do I get to go to round 2?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (I2dne)

181 how much gin can you buy with 100 million bucks?



If not a majority share in a distillery, then one hell of a minority share.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (ob5xJ)

182 We better get IG Horowitz on this fast! How can Congress not go after Google after their testimony under oath? The DOJ should of course relinquish all authority to investigate this to an agency that has no power to indict.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (Fxgkp)

183 Jesus, listening to the radio between Rush's breaks is infuriating. The one I just heard said "An earthquake called Sondland just landed in the impeachment hearings today.."

Holy hell.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (9V81o)

184 Hmm, it seems I was wrong. The actual challenge was to google "what is the most honest news source." The answer was something called "The Catalyst," which I've never heard of.

No matter. Google is as trustworthy as Scankles saying "Hey, take a walk over through Fort Marcy Park. The fresh air is good for you!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (Ki5SV)

185 > I don't know, the commenters at THIS SITE last night were in love with Andrew Sullivan.

Nonsense. I realize that you are a communist troll with Beavis and Butthead-style adolescent bimodal judgment (where everything is either "cool" or it "sucks", with nothing in between), but it's possible to agree with one thing someone says without agreeing with everything that person says.
> You suck, Boomers.

Boomers invented the Internet and stared nuclear holocaust right in its goddamned face.


You millennials invented avocado toast and need therapy if someone forgets to call you "xim".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (oQp6r)

186 how much gin can you buy with 100 million bucks?

Posted by: i'm guessing more than i can drink at November 20, 2019 01:32 PM (foYbO)

________


"You'd think you could never burn through billions dollars in hookers and blow ... but you'd be wrong." -- Graft-Hunter Biden

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (iOigv)

187 Next you'll tell me Youtube isn't demonetizing conservative channels and Facebook is censoring and removing accounts of prominent conservatives.

Youtube's doing worse than that. Modern progressivism is animated by the rich being angry that they aren't actually better than us and that technology helped to boost a lot of people up to their level. So YouTube's new policies are intended to emphasize content from Hollywood studios and TV networks and de-emphasize content from everyone else, including their existing stable of YouTube stars.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (ZGrMX)

188 Google controls 98% of all search engine traffic.

Standard Oil and ATandT never even came close to that level of monopoly

There is only one reason to oppose breaking them and fining them out of business--you're getting paid by them.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (k81AA)

189 We had a friend that should have written a cookbook on how to eat right in prison. You want the alternative meal (vegan/religious). It has more volume than the other meals. Then you use the money on your account and buy Cheetos. Crush those up to go on the salad. He would go on and on about it.

We are long overdue to RICO the tech companies. Not sure if it could be tackled any time soon.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (JKNZq)

190
The billionaires and grifting government Marxists behind all this horseshit are coming after you. They're releasing the hounds and coming to your door.

Quadruple your property taxes. Get you fired from your job or even jailed for failing the New Pronoun Simon Says requirements. The New Americans displacing you. Your kids turned over to predators. Protected criminals attacking you in the street or breaking into your house and car. A new economic depression. This is what they want.

Every time I see the utterings of some moronic leftoid public figure, I keep in mind that they are in service of the above agenda.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (AO1Nn)

191

Keep in mind: Sondland implied both Morrison and Volker are liars.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (oIPis)

192 A year or so back, maybe a bit more, there was this web game going around twitter about oh hey go play with this thing where you have to decide who to plow down if your car goes out of control!

I went through two questions and said to myself, self, this is research for programmers of AI on self driving cars and that's not being disclosed to see how people will really respond.

Yuuuuuuuuppppp. Turned out to be a (an?) MIT experiment.

What the researchers discovered is that, when it is presented as a game, a pretty significant number of people will choose to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (mf5HN)

The answer to the self-driving car thing is so obviously simple it's maddening to me that it's even a question.

The car protects whoever is in the car, because whoever is in the car is the person who bought the damn car.

Also, lol about the people trying to get a high score.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:38 PM (KUaJL)

193 I knew a guy who worked career with the state department. He was a hard core libertarian. He made me look milquetoast and I am right of Attila the Hun. I guess he liked the checks.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:38 PM (n13/j)

194 "I saw Gigantic DC Donation-Leech Pink and Plump open for the Freelance Whales at the Himalayan Yak in '09.
Posted by: ShainS -- it's the"


Confession time. I have donated to NRO's legal defense fund for Micheal Mann's BS lawsuit and do not regret it. I appreciated that Rich Lowry stood up to a bully and had Mark Steyn's back.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2019 01:38 PM (OD2ni)

195 Andrew Sullivan used to be very readable, but, when Sarah Palin dared to get above her station, he went nuts, like the rest of the media.

It appears to be that Mr. Sullivan is becoming readable, again, once in a while.

Still doesn't mean I trust Mr. Sullivan nor care for him very much.

Yet, agreement with a decent point = love?

Or, maybe turkey baster is just an idiot.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:39 PM (qC1Sy)

196 193 I knew a guy who worked career with the state department. He was a hard core libertarian. He made me look milquetoast and I am right of Attila the Hun. I guess he liked the checks.
Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:38 PM (n13/j)

========

Ayn Rand collected social security.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:39 PM (q80AH)

197 Yuuuuuuuuppppp. Turned out to be a (an?) MIT experiment.

What the researchers discovered is that, when it is presented as a game, a pretty significant number of people will choose to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (mf5HN)


Could have save time and effort by just watching people play Grand Theft Auto.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:39 PM (SjIcT)

198 So any actual "proof" that the Ukraine about indicting the head of Barissma? I've seen only rumors... and GP has it and he's not very reliable

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 01:39 PM (6XlcD)

199 Need some help here. How do I send a link to a specific thread. I want to have someone see the moon moon thread and I'm such a klutz I'll never get it right?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2019 01:34 PM (fmXEO)


At the bottom of the post it will say posted by and then the time. Click on the time. That is the direct link for that thread.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

200 I knew a guy who worked career with the state department. He was a hard core libertarian. He made me look milquetoast and I am right of Attila the Hun. I guess he liked the checks.
Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:38 PM (n13/j)

Maybe he was the inspiration for Ron Swanson?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (KUaJL)

201 No, its not nonsense you word play, reach around boomer fucks. Andrew Sullivan was celebrated a man of sticking to the analysis at hand. Was he? was he really? The man that fought and won the argument to change the fundamental union of the entirety of Western Civilization -That man? Was that man really someone the Right should look to in arguments of Trannyies and gays? Really, are you that fucking stupid? Are you that trusting? Are that much of a boomer cuck?

Or, are you admitting you are not of the right, and are, just like Jen Rubin, the right flank of the left?

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Fxgkp)

202 >>> I went through two questions and said to myself, self, this is research for programmers of AI on self driving cars and that's not being disclosed to see how people will really respond.

Ugh, creepy! And none of this will one day be used for nefarious purposes, no sir.

I remember how I felt the first time I realized the supposedly benign images that pop up on captcha questions (click on the streetlights, the crosswalks, the cars...) are to help AI recognize images better. Probably to help self driving cars. It creeps me out they are using us online for all these experiments and we get not disclosure about it and no say so.

Glad I got to see the infancy of the internet in its early wild west phase. That was a fun, more innocent time.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (hvf9s)

203 You millennials invented avocado toast and need therapy if someone forgets to call you "xim".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (oQp6r)
---------------

I'm now trying to imagine the current snowflakes growing up under the shadow of nuclear war.

My imagination says this wouldn't be a pretty sight.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

204 Any time I hear the word 'algorithm' know Im going to get screwed.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (oY5lM)

205 alexthechick, Thank You so much.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (fmXEO)

206 Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2019 01:36 PM (9V81o)

I don't know about breaks with Rush, but whenever any local conservative talk station has "And now a break for news" I mute it because it's always the same leftist drivel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (WI7YS)

207 hold on, I have to find some really cute word play to go along with that, that will make my day. !

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (Fxgkp)

208 Does that fat drunk Will Pitt still post there?
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2019 01:35 PM


Back before I could only tolerate a few minutes of exposure a month, he was bounced, readmitted, bounced, readmitted, and finally banned for good.

They truly are different over there. Comparatively, the drama there makes this place look like everyone is the epitome of unharshed mellow.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:42 PM (qzF84)

209 "As John Battelle, who helped launch Wired magazine, once put it to me, 'The tech community doesn't have a good perspective on itself. We aren't humanissts or philosophers. We are engineers. To Google and Facebook, people are alogorithms.' ..."

Well, yes and no. I should have written a book a decade ago.

Was in the belly of the beast at probably the first big search engine.

It was my guys who came up with the data that showed JUST HOW MANY OF OUR SEARCH QUERIES WERE FOR PORN-RELATED TOPICS.

The guys (and girls) who ran the search engine had ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what their traffic looked like, to them running the thing was a technical exercise. They could GAF about monetization. It was a technology demonstrator for a company that built hardware.

When a few organizational changes came along and suddenly revenue mattered, and we showed them where the revenue would come from, the antacids were consumed in bulk.

Then they reviewed their option grants and the vesting dates and quietly, cautiously, said 'yeah'.

You had the nerds, and you had the management nerds, but in the end everyone wanted to be rich nerds.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:42 PM (8erNz)

210 >>I will not be surprised if "run anyone over wearing a MAGA hat" gets programmed into the code for self driving cars.


Oh, don't get e started on self-driving cars, LOL!
Seems
to me that the only way they can make these even close to safe is to
put them on roads that are 100% self-driving. Easier to code when there
is one set of standard behaviors for a car vs. trying to create
responses to the myriad of possible unpredictable human behaviors, etc..


And if that happens, then people will likely stop owning cars (do you
really own it if you don't control it? why bother?), and THEN it will be
like Chinese social credit system or any current social media service
already, where you can be suspended based on a murky, ever-changing,
TOC. It will be: "No, I cannot drive you to that MAGA rally right now
because my programming says there is not currently a safe route."

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:42 PM (bDqIh)

211 It's not good to get into conversations with Turkey baster/trolls.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (WI7YS)

212 Google controls 98% of all search engine traffic.



Standard Oil and ATandT never even came close to that level of monopoly



There is only one reason to oppose breaking them and fining them out of business--you're getting paid by them.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 20, 2019 01:37 PM (k81AA)

The alternative should be to not play on their field. Why do we only play on their field and complain about how they control it. In the lead up to the American Revolution, the internet was a pub. Just saying. We often complain that the left has taken everything over. Well, maybe we should find other things they don't control.

btw, they broke up ma bell and I believe when all was said and done, stockholders received stock in over 70 companies. No one was destroyed even with the break up. If we break up silicon Valley companies, does that mean they new companies have to leave silicon valley and hire normals?

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (n13/j)

213 LOL... Sondland thought he was done lying, I mean testifying

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (6XlcD)

214 I didn't realize that Caitlyn was a lesbian.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7705575

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (XzVUd)

215 That damned coffee mug is at it again.

Posted by: Eric Fartswell at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (vtcmf)

216 Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Fxgkp)

Read this book: "How to make friends and influence people."

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (aS1PU)

217 122 Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
3h
Trivia: Robert Luskin, who is the Sondland lawyer sitting to his right, is also representing Stefan Halper.
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (BqBId)


Oh, for fucks sake. No wonder his opening statement was crafted to comport with everything damaging the anti-damaging the other witnesses said. Layer probably told Sondland you have to back up what other's say about you or you could be in trouble.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (Xqo6t)

218
The car protects whoever is in the car, because whoever is in the car is the person who bought the damn car.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:38 PM


until that morning, when you get in your car & it does the retinal scan or whatever it does to verify it's you, & your car does a quick database check & see's you have an outstanding parking ticket & your car delivers you to the local police station instead of work

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (cuot+)

219 (WI7YS)

207 hold on, I have to find some really cute word play to go along with that, that will make my day. !
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (Fxgkp)


You're all having fun WRONG! Stop it! Stop it right now!!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (SjIcT)

220 What I see in the long term is that American society is increasingly diverging from the Constitutional basis on which it was founded.

Freedom of speech once reflecte, and guaranteed free expression and freedom of conscience in a society that largely valued it.

Today we have large swaths of those who are culturally non-American or anti-American (including native born indoctrinated youth) to the point that they just don't value what the constitution and law supposedly protects.

So in the main our society increasingly operates, day to day, without the values of free speech (cancel culture, doxing yesterdays contested policy as today's heresy, heckler's vetos on campus etc etc).

At their worst the anti-freedom crowd cynically games the law to advance unfreedom. The rest mostly just have a tin ear for the music of freedom vs the notes: believeing "the Constitution" will save them when they are not free in a meaningful sense in their own lives.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (koNhm)

221 ...presented as a game, a pretty significant number of people will choose to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

...Children and elderly are worth the most points.

Wheelchairs, baby carriages, elderly with grocery carts, and, of course, hobos, and the weighting can change according to many factors.

Posted by: mindful webworker - has driven many many hours at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (5RITs)

222 Any time I hear the word 'algorithm' know Im going to get screwed.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM


Dude, by not sending your bone home with you to make soup they screwed you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (qzF84)

223 Rodrigo Borgia,

could not have said it better. And, should we ever get another "Great Depression", the die off will be horrific. These people don't even know how to cook, let alone grow food. Is there a Millennial's "back to the land" movement? of course not. They aren't makers, they are consumers.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (JKNZq)

224 The guys (and girls) who ran the search engine had ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what their traffic looked like, to them running the thing was a technical exercise. They could GAF about monetization. It was a technology demonstrator for a company that built hardware.

AltaVista? That was a great site, I preferred it to Google for as long as it was possible to.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (ZGrMX)

225 Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2019 01:43 PM (aS1PU)

A fine book, even years after it was initially published.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:45 PM (WI7YS)

226 It is Gooble's purpose to correct your thinking. Look at what runs it.

Posted by: klaftern at November 20, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

227 So if conservative sites identify as liberal, what happens?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 20, 2019 01:45 PM (ayFCE)

228
Or, are you admitting you are not of the right, and are, just like Jen Rubin, the right flank of the left?

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Fxgkp)

"The right flank of the left". I like it PH, so I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 01:45 PM (oY5lM)

229 >>The car protects whoever is in the car, because whoever is in the car is the person who bought the damn car.



*cough* Tesla *cough*

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:45 PM (bDqIh)

230 227 So if conservative sites identify as liberal, what happens?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 20, 2019 01:45 PM (ayFCE)

========

Then the definition suddenly includes that you have to go through surgery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 01:46 PM (q80AH)

231 The car protects whoever is in the car, because whoever is in the car is the person who bought the damn car.

Tesla sure got that part wrong.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 01:46 PM (ZGrMX)

232 Is Google a big corporation ?

It is ? Then it's working against your personal liberties in favor of its own. The bigger the company, the more that is true.

No matter what they say, they always do the same thing; blur the line between commerce and government in their favor and against the citizenry.

Sound too "leftist" ? These things ain't as simple as a number line.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 20, 2019 01:46 PM (fBFz0)

233 Or, are you admitting you are not of the right, and are, just like Jen Rubin, the right flank of the left?
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Fxgkp)

Here is wisdom: You talk like a fag and your shit, it is all retarded.

Posted by: Boomer Cuck at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM (CLteG)

234 Today we have large swaths of those who are culturally non-American

or anti-American (including native born indoctrinated youth) to the point that they just don't value what the constitution and law supposedly protects.


They'll shit themselves the first time it is turned on them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM (fBape)

235 You are welcome, Ben Had.


Could have save time and effort by just watching people play Grand Theft Auto.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:39 PM (SjIcT)


I stopped playing GTA not because it made me a sociopath but because it exposed how much of one I was and I was not comfortable with that knowledge.

Story time!

When the late, lamented BFF was first diagnosed with cancer, I moved up to take care of her and we thought this was going to be months long thing, not three weeks. As a result, I brought along my Xbox and various games, including GTAIV (the then most current).

One day, one of her cousins asked me if I cared if her son, who was 10, played my Xbox and I said no problem, what does he want to play. She said GTA. I stared at her and asked her if she knew what the game was and she said yes. I assumed her 10 year old had lied to her and I asked her if she knew that you played a gangster and the game involved things like shooting cops and running strings of hookers. She said oh it was fine he played it at home all the time. I said, that's nice, then he can play at home but not mine. No possible way.

I still cannot believe anyone would let a 10 year old play GTA.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM (mf5HN)

236 guess what, every facet of american life is blacklisting conservatives. FYI.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM (FEQY4)

237 Dude, by not sending your bone home with you to make soup they screwed you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (qzF84)

. Wait is that a geek joke or a cannibal joke Dunc?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM (oY5lM)

238 AltaVista? That was a great site, I preferred it to Google for as long as it was possible to.

*cough* some people have a memory.

Yeah, something like that.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (8erNz)

239 #25, for me it was several articles reporting polling on the question, with answers ranging from "The BBC, PBS, and Fox News" to "The Wall Street Journal" as the answers in them.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (rGgyS)

240 The car protects whoever is in the car, because whoever is in the car is the person who bought the damn car.



*cough* Tesla *cough*

Posted by: Lizzy


Until it catches fire and locks you in.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (fBape)

241 And another thing, you people seem to think Memes are just something you do for fun! Weeeeeee lets see who can make the cutest eva! script about Epstein. OK..thats real effective, lets use volume, rather than what worked in 2016-
Memes are a tool to mock the left, using their own facts, and turning them around on them, back in their faces. THEN and this is important, having a response ready to crush their responses to those memes. You dont have a clue what you're doing. I guess because you're all 65 and over, and remember when PBR came in quarter kegs, rather in bottles for hipsters. They'll be coming door to door for your firearms and you boomers will be content to make a really spiffy haiku about i t.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (Fxgkp)

242 I still cannot believe anyone would let a 10 year old play GTA.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM (mf5HN)

We know there are parents who are taking their children to drag queen story hour and forcing their kids into gender reassignment surgery.....

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (KUaJL)

243 "You realize why the upper Midwest even HAS Democrats? Because the farmers who needed access to railroads or grain elevators were told to build their own."

My hometown in Ohio was told that in the late 1800s. So they did -- raised the money to run rails to the next town and get an engine to run on it. It's long-abandoned, but the station house is still there, and you can make out about half the length of the track in satellite photos.

I saw "Who's Who" type book for the area, and everyone involved in it made sure to mention that in their autobiographical sketches.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2019 01:49 PM (cUXDZ)

244 Ayn Rand collected social security.
You mean she got a super low return on a forced investment.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2019 01:49 PM (r+sAi)

245 "So they are finally admitting that all the major tech gurus are psychopaths.."Posted by: LizLem

right, a valid interpretation. And "manufacturing consent" has become "engineering global consent", not just with false flag events and fake news histrionics, but with more insidious control of search results, and shadow banning of the Patriotic.


They really have the ability to brainwash everyone into being drone workers for the globalist, fed video game gruel to malnourish the soul, and social justice religion as the new opiate of the masses.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 01:49 PM (Cus5s)

246 210 self driving car that is programmed to run over anyone wearing a MAGA hat.

Yes please! where do I get one.

Posted by: Chris Wallace at November 20, 2019 01:50 PM (LilNs)

247 Google is also biased this way in a non-political fashion as well -- they have a huge bias in favor of shopping sites that advertise with Google.

Just yesterday, I wanted to find the Web site of a small company that makes a specific electronic doodad I was looking for. Their URL is a no-brainer -- let's just say the company name is Aardvark Widgets, and the URL of their homepage is aarvarkwidgets.com. However, when I typed "Aardvark Widgets" in the Google search page, the first freaking FIFTY results were for shopping sites (like Amazon and eBay etc.) selling this or that widget made by the company. I think the company's own home page finally appeared on the third page of results. Ridiculous.

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2019 01:50 PM (fK2gX)

248 "I still cannot believe anyone would let a 10 year old play GTA.
Posted by: alexthechick -"


We got my 16yo old an X-Box for making his Eagle Scout and we won't let him play that. Call of Duty is about as violent as we allow.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2019 01:50 PM (OD2ni)

249 Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (Fxgkp)
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Santa needs to bring you a pair of pliers so you can remove that bug from your butt.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM (3Z6pZ)

250 Pixysaved from Italican overrun. Thx, Pixy.

* tosses a box of baking soda into the barrel *

Posted by: mindful webworker - the next person you help might be you at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM (5RITs)

251 to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

As lads the BrothersA and various neighbors played "Kill the Pedestrian" involving bikes and cross street running.

Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM (FhXTo)

252 >>> I'm now trying to imagine the current snowflakes growing up under the shadow of nuclear war.
My imagination says this wouldn't be a pretty sight.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

I think this is credited to G Michael Hopf:

"Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times"

Repeat an an infinity loop forever and that is civilization in a nutshell. America is in the "good times create weak men" stage of this cycle, bleeding into the next stage.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM (hvf9s)

253 I still cannot believe anyone would let a 10 year old play GTA.

There are more YouTube comments than I'm comfortable with from people saying they, for instance, watched their parents play through Resident Evil 2 when they were 3 years old. I was not yet 29 (but within range) when I first played RE2 and it scared the crap out of me.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM (ZGrMX)

254 Wait is that a geek joke or a cannibal joke Dunc?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 01:47 PM


EmbraceTheMagic = (GeekJoke() && CannibalJoke())

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:52 PM (qzF84)

255 Elon Musk makes major contribution to Astronomy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7706933

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 20, 2019 01:52 PM (XzVUd)

256 Santa needs to bring you a pair of pliers so you can remove that bug from your butt.

I believe we generally use the Jaws of Life for that.

https://www.jawsoflife.com/

Hydraulics is wonderful.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:52 PM (8erNz)

257
Posted by: Orson at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (V+o6A)

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Good comment. That and havng Congresscritters, regulators, another bureaucrat in their pockets -- enacting barriers to entry. Crony oligarchy FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:53 PM (iOigv)

258 There's a hundred people who are responsible for 50% of the evil, and if you just took them out and shot them, you'd fix most of the problem.
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (8erNz)

take it on up to 100,000 and you could get rid of 80%.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 01:53 PM (Kpl3J)

259 Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (Fxgkp)

what did I just read?

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:53 PM (n13/j)

260 Or, maybe turkey baster is just an idiot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:39 PM (qC1Sy)

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I thought turkey basters were all tools.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:53 PM (RU4sa)

261 This thread reminds me - anyone watch the show Silicon Valley? Hubby does and it amazes me, given that it's HBO, how it skewers the millennial tech industry

Posted by: VM's phone at November 20, 2019 01:53 PM (EGSGm)

262 I'll link to what I always do when tech engineers view human interaction as a problem to be solved.

David Byrne (yes, that one) from 2017:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608580/eliminating-the-human/


Yuuuuuuuup.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (mf5HN)

263
Someone seems to have confused a turkey baster with a douche.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (kw0bd)

264 Time for some good news. After this morning, the 11th Circuit is majority Republican appointees again.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (OD2ni)

265 Rush talking about Mark Sandy now

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (abQDf)

266 Just because it's (a) great (b) a great period piece (c) haven't heard it in ages, you're subjected to it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_d32N1HY0

If you go to the link, of course.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (8erNz)

267 I'm placing 100 quatloos on the baster as a pretty good sock.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (fBFz0)

268 * tosses a box of baking soda into the barrel *
Posted by: mindful webworker - the next person you help might be you at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM


* foamy slime erupts *

Posted by: The Barrel at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (qzF84)

269 EmbraceTheMagic = (GeekJoke() && CannibalJoke())

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 20, 2019 01:52 PM (qzF84)

LOl. Clever D.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (oY5lM)

270 I didn't realize that Caitlyn was a lesbian.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7705575

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It's like Forrest Gump says. Crazy is as crazy does. And he crazy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2019 01:54 PM (+y/Ru)

271 Hey Priscilla how old are you?

Posted by: look at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (WX+x0)

272 There's a hundred people who are responsible for 50% of the evil, and if you just took them out and shot them, you'd fix most of the problem.
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:30 PM (8erNz)

take it on up to 100,000 and you could get rid of 80%.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Add three more zeros and take it internationally.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (fBape)

273 I thought turkey basters were all tools.
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:53 PM (RU4sa)

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Heh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (qC1Sy)

274 251 to plow down the most people possible, for the lulz.

As lads the BrothersA and various neighbors played "Kill the Pedestrian" involving bikes and cross street running.
Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM (FhXTo)

Smear the Queer.

Nuff said.

Posted by: Don Q at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (NgKpN)

275 146 Speaking of google...

Fun fact:

For those wondering what's up with Drudge, drudge sold controlling interests in his site to a google controlled websense company.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium
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Hmm, this I didn't know. Good thing I haven't provided any clickbait for that clown since Nov 2016.. dRedge indeed.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (c/XJZ)

276 I usually take pepto when my algorithm is off.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (88+cf)

277 There is a documentary out called The Creepy Line that is about search manipulation of what is visible. Duck Duck go uses Google results by the way

Posted by: Kindltot at November 20, 2019 01:55 PM (sCK5I)

278 Shorter Post Google is in the suppression business.

Even shorter post Google is evil.

The problem is what to do about it? Goggle is actively trying to make their login the back door to all information. And so far they are succeeding.

Posted by: Big V at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (B06Zw)

279 #nevertrustalibertarian, or a boomer in a circle jerk of word play.
Whats next, showing off to each other naming that State Capital?
Or how about giving really interesting takes on Music from FIFTY years ago. Because lets be honest, everyone needs to know your opinion of Rubber Soul.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (Fxgkp)

280 tosses a box of baking soda into the barrel *
Posted by: mindful webworker - the next person you help might be you at November 20, 2019 01:51 PM

* foamy slime erupts *
Posted by: The Barrel


Toss a gallon of vinegar in.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (fBape)

281 224 AltaVista? That was a great site, I preferred it to Google for as long as it was possible to.
Posted by: Ian S.


AltaVista was DA BOSS. Best search engine ever. It just gave you the raw results, no filter. It was amazing. People who have never experienced it have no clue what they're missing. People these days are so used to having put through algorithms and filters never realize that they simply aren;t seeing reality or the truth. And it's not like the search engines are incapable of delivering unfiltered results. They are tweaked to filter out the truth specifically so you don't see it.

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (fK2gX)

282 take it on up to 100,000 and you could get rid of 80%.

With luck Voltaire's Admiral Byng approach applies once you get the first 100.

You don't need to kill the next thousand, or ten thousand, you just need to convince them that they, personally, are next.

Which, of course, is what the left is trying to do to us.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (8erNz)

283 having put through = having RESULTS put through

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2019 01:57 PM (fK2gX)

284 The google crap was obscenely obvious on youtube searches a couple of months back. Any search for a creator usually always meant you'd get a litany of video about said creator (usually hit pieces). What's so hard about putting the actual channel up? You can't tell me an algorithm decides that rather than show the channel you're searching for, most people want to see hit pieces?

Same went for actual videos - and still does to some degree. As a test, I entered the actual title for a particular video (rather long) and it didn't show up, at all. At least, I gave up after 50 or so.

They've backed off a bit on YT just because it was so blatant and they were called on it by folks like Dice and Watters. But we had plenty of proof back in 2015 when you could type in "michelle obama is..." on both google and Duck Duck Go (or bing or almost any other search engine) and get wildly different results.

Funny how all of this stuff started in earnest in 2015, pure coincidence, right?

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2019 01:57 PM (Z1ykJ)

285 The problem is what to do about it? Goggle is actively trying to make their login the back door to all information. And so far they are succeeding.
Posted by: Big V at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (B06Zw)


Somebody here smartened me up - if its "free", you're the product.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 20, 2019 01:57 PM (fBFz0)

286 On the topic of self-driving cares: no.

Even if they can be made to work and work well, even if they can be made to work better, on average, than human drivers. The answer is still no.

We can move in this country. I can get in my car and go anywhere I want. I am in control. I press the pedals and I turn the wheel. If I want to pull up stakes and leave my town, state, house, etc., I can do so.

A self-driving car makes me cede that control to the state in some manner - whether it is through a state operator directly or through an agent like a big tech company. Self-driving cars destroy the freedom implied by owning your owns means of conveyance. The part of the self-driving car that you own and get to maintain is the chunk of hardware. The conveyance now belongs to someone else.

No thank you. Not now. Not later. Not ever.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:57 PM (I2dne)

287 Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 01:48 PM (Fxgkp)

what did I just read?


I feel like it's one of those small-m morons who heckles Charlie Kirk for not being a racist.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 01:58 PM (ZGrMX)

288 I blame Vint Cerf.

Posted by: Kid Tyrone at November 20, 2019 01:58 PM (9K+79)

289 217 122 Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
3h
Trivia: Robert Luskin, who is the Sondland lawyer sitting to his right, is also representing Stefan Halper.
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 01:27 PM (BqBId)


Oh, for fucks sake. No wonder his opening statement was crafted to comport with everything damaging the anti-damaging the other witnesses said. Layer probably told Sondland you have to back up what other's say about you or you could be in trouble.
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 20, 2019 01:44 PM (Xqo6t)
************
OMG.... Well, this explains a lot.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 01:58 PM (wiXsO)

290 You don't need to kill the next thousand, or ten thousand, you just need to convince them that they, personally, are next.

Which, of course, is what the left is trying to do to us.
Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (8erNz)
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Or, it serves as a warning if they ever step out of line again.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:58 PM (qC1Sy)

291 Why do autofill suggested searches exist in the first place? Who asked for it?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 01:58 PM (CQ3Qb)

292 If you are going to buy an Aardvark Widget, get the gold anodized finish. It's the best.

Posted by: klaftern at November 20, 2019 01:59 PM (RuIsu)

293 why would anyone waste time with avocado toast? We have had guacamole and tortilla chips for many decades. Is avocado toast better in any way? I didn't think so.

Also, and I should not say this as to keep it on the down low. Gen X probably hates Millennial culture more than Boomers. A lot of those boomers were 60's hippies.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:59 PM (n13/j)

294 287 I feel like it's one of those small-m morons who heckles Charlie Kirk for not being a racist.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 01:58 PM (ZGrMX)

I've been accused (once) of being a troll for bringing that up...

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 01:59 PM (UnA8+)

295 Toss a gallon of vinegar in.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:56 PM (fBape)

Thermite grenade.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 02:00 PM (88+cf)

The Morning Rant

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"This is how we know the impeachment hearings are a clown show:

"1. These hearings are just the culmination of a process that the Democrats started on or about the day Donald Trump was inaugurated. At that time, the whistleblower's leaker's attorney, Mark Zaid, said "the coup has started." And other Democrats have similarly been calling for impeachment from day And this was before Trump had done anything at all, let alone anything impeachable. It's like the crime was pre-determined, and now they're trying to figure out which one it is.

"2. Turns out that the Democrats have been focus-group testing their impeachment strategy. This is probably why the grounds for impeachment have been shifting from "quid pro quo" to obstruction of justice to bribery and extortion. The Democrats are switching the grounds for impeachment in and out so fast, I think I'm going to sue Adam Schiff for whiplash.

"Oh, and Trump should be impeached for undermining long-standing foreign policy put in place by, I don't know, career diplomats. That's a good one.

"4. Impeachment really should be bipartisan thing. But the Democrats haven't been able to peel off one, not one, Republican to stand with them on impeaching Trump. This is actually quite remarkable. They couldn't get even the squishiest RINOs to going along with this. This is an entirely 100% Democratic operation. And it's really funny to see how surly progressives are about this on social media. They keep saying things like "they just worship Trump", "they're all part of the Trump cult" and "it's sad that apparently not one Republican cares about facts and reality." They like to hammer that last point a lot. Oh, those poor blind Republicans. Trump is walking out of the Oval Office with all of the furniture and huge bags of cash with dollar signs imprinted on them and they can't even see it. Of course, the reason for the unyielding Republican intransigence is that they actually can see obvious facts: they know when a man is being railroaded when they see it. They know that Trump's only crime has been that he got elected.

"Lastly, if you want to talk about being oblivious to reality, I would say that it is the Democrats who are oblivious -- oblivious to the damage they're causing our political institutions and the rule of law. Impeachment was meant to be a last resort remedy, but by their constant shrieking of "impeachment!", the Democrats have turned it into just another campaign strategy. They have significantly lowered the bar as to what constitutes an impeachable offense. Heck, everything Trump does going forward that they don't like will be an impeachable offense.

"Of course, it's not going to work, and then they're going to be faced with the possibility that next election, or the one after, the institutions that they've weaponized to use against Trump will be turned around and used against them."







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You Can Just Smell the Desperation:




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Gotta Get One More Fart Joke In:



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Monday's Celebs: Hammer Films 'scream queen' Ingrid Pitt, and English actor Edward Woodward, who incidentally, has a pretty decent singing voice. Both were in the cult classic 1973 film, The Wicker Man.



AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com), as I will be filling in for Fenelon Spoke on the prayer list, for the next 1-2 months while Fenelon recuperates. If you could include the words “prayer request” in the subject of the email, that will help me distinguish it from spam emails.

If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, please feel free to copy and paste it and email it to me.

Updates and new requests:

10/23 - HB requests prayers for “Tikvah” for healing from serious infection of diabetic foot wounds.

10/24 - Cybersmythe requests prayers for his son, who is scheduled to have brain surgery on November 20 to ease his seizures.

10/30 - BW requests prayers for Officer Urbano Rodriguez Jr of the Denton Police Department in Texas. He was shot in the head and leg during a routine traffic stop. He is in critical but stable condition.

11/3 - Chique has offered to help rickl, who lives nearby and is dealing with cancer, if rickl could use any assistance. Rickl, if you are okay with that, please send me (Annie’s Stew) your email address and I will pass it along to chique.

11/5 - Pooky and Pooky’s girl have had a major setback in the process to become adoptive parents. Pooky’s former therapist refused to sign the recommendation form, and now their social worker wants them to withdraw from the program. They ask for prayers as they try to figure out how to move forward.

11/18 - ibguy requests prayers for healing for Jenna, the daughter of a friend and colleague, a wonderful young mother with a very serious case of MS.

11/18 - ibguy also requests prayers for healing and a return to childhood for Elena, the grand-niece of a co-worker. Elena is a 2 ½ year old girl with serious cancer/tumor, who has been in a hospital most of her life.

11/18 - ibguy requests prayers for healing and direction for his mother-in-law, Marilyn, who is 86 years old and was in a bad car accident. Marilyn is transitioning from rehab to Assisted Living.


Praise reports:

10/17 - sock_rat_eez sends thanks for all the prayers! His pre-surgery tests went well and he is hoping for the same for the mid-November tests, so surgery can take place before Christmas!


Requests for continued prayer:
For healing from cancer:

- OldDog’sinMo’s wife, Slapweasel (also for an organ donor) and strength in caring for elderly parents with have memory and other issues, Cheribee, also Tami’s daughter, Circa’s brother,

- VNRedLeg, Scott M., Fox 2!’s friend, Mary Beth for healing from bladder cancer, Mother of a co-worker of Josephistan , Rickl-healing from cancer-he has an additional lesion and numbness in back area, Suzanne’s friend Kevin-told that he has six months to live-is praying for a miracle.

- For Laura who has metastastic breast cancer and told she has 3 years to live. Flounder’s MIL, continued healing from cancer.

9/25 - Update from VNRedLeg - “Still on Luprin for my cancer. 9 weeks of radiation begins in Dec. Next PSA and blood tests 1 Nov. In the meantime had surgery for a distal bicep tendon tear (R arm) and emergency eye surgery for vitreous hemorrhage (R eye). Very grateful for your prayers!”


Other continuing health issues and requested prayers for healing:

- Fixeupperupper’s mothers-kidney function.

- Michelle’s son- continued recovery from car accident.

- Sock-rat-eez, thanks that recovery is going really well, the medical guys have released me from treatment for the dangerous embolisms that occurred during my emergency surgery back in February, so the path is clear to the next step; the surgical team wants a colonoscopy to get a look at things in there before the reversal. Nothing scheduled yet, but hopefully soon.

- USNTakin and wife-he asked particularly that she have relief from pain, but strength and relief from pain for both of them.

- For Allison- in her 30’s-for complete healing after a stroke after having a baby.

- For healing for Josephistan’s mom who has difficulty with daily tasks and is anxious and withdrawn. Also strength for him caring for his mom as he is alone in doing this. Help in finding a caregiver. He also needs job help.

- Hrothgar’s SIL, for diabetes related neuropathy.

- Poster ET going through a difficult time.

- Beltway Elite’s mother-recovery while in recovery from stroke.

- Hrothgar’s friend, a hospice counselor who needs healing after being affected by fumes from muriatic acid.

- Healing for Blaster’s son who has issues with depression.

- 10/17 for continued blessings on sock_rat_eez’ medical condition and care.

- 10/17 LR has pneumonia, and could use prayers for healing.


Job needs and concerns:

- Emperor County Boy asked for prayers for wisdom and guidance and direction in his job search and in other areas.

- Donna&&&& needs FT job in areas of expertise

- PDX Republican needs sedentary PT job.

- Insomniac has been in touch with a company about receiving some work in his field. Please continue to pray for him in this endeavor that this does indeed work out for him as there have been many false starts and dead ends.

- Anonymous poster needs prayers for more work and rough places made smooth.

Wednesdays are days in which mothers in the horde and anyone else says special prayers for children of horde members. Please include the grandchildren as well.

Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after five weeks or so unless we receive an update.

This in NOT because we don’t care; It’s simply because of lack of space. Updates as well as thanks for answered prayer and new prayer requests are always welcome. Please feel free to copy requests which you see on the board and send them to apaslo@hotmail.com. I won’t know unless someone tells me! Thank you and God bless!

Please remember the Prayer of St. Francis:
http://www.prayerguide.org.uk/stfrancis.htm



Today's Edition Of The Morning Rant Is Brought To You By Lasagna:

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1 The guy is Benedict Cumberbatch. I should know the girl -- the pics look like a scene from UFO -- but I don't.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:18 AM (Ejm1K)

2 Lasagna is the worst kind of pasta. Fite me.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:18 AM (KUaJL)

3 damnit.

top 5

now to go look at the pictures and pretend to read the content...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (8D42x)

4 Wait; the 4th pic is from The Prisoner?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (Ejm1K)

5 benedict cumberbatch - yummy

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (a0IVu)

6 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (q80AH)

7 Benedict Cumberbatch and his mom, Bond girl Wanda Ventham!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (bDqIh)

8 I have a type - and its definitely the dark brooding Benedict Cumberbatch type

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (a0IVu)

9 Otter face? Really?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (ngSZO)

10 Lasagna isn't pasta, it's a casserole.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (KUaJL)

11 Prayer's up. Joan Collins and some dude. I made a mexican lasagna on Sunday; it was pretty amazing

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (X+a7J)

12 Way too much wall o'cheese atop that lasagna.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (1XNk8)

13 Mama Cumberbacht

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (N3JsI)

14 Chad Pergram @ChadPergram
45s
The future of the Trump presidency and impeachment could pivot on the next 45 minutes and how Republicans handle Sondland. Remember. Sondland is their witness
*******
He soooooo Hopes

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (BqBId)

15 They were both in Cumberbatch's Sherlock tv show, where she played. . . Sherlock's mom.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (bDqIh)

16 Lasagna is to pasta as chicago deep dish is to pizza

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (KUaJL)

17 That is a woman NOT afraid of her cleavage. Good on her.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (d1uFV)

18 What about Avenatti bishes? He's going to take Trump down and run for President!

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (9VeU0)

19 Lasagna is a casserole with pasta noodles as an ingredient.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (1XNk8)

20 Honor Blackmon and Benedict Cumberbatch

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (E+OcO)

21 Motorboat and Cumberbund.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (prSvo)

22 Nice addition of an image from The Prisioner.

Damn prescient show...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (d1uFV)

23 He tried to stink up the room but after a while it all just evaporated into nothing. Like almost everything Democrats do.

Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (Y274z)

24 Focus-grouping this crap is maybe the only smart thing the Dems have done. It hasn't helped, but I actually understand that one. Impeachment is a political process. You need political capital - that is, you need the people on your side - to press it. I understand the focus groups. I just don't understand why they keep pressing forward.

And this was bipartisan. Some Dems voted against it, along with all of the Repubs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (I2dne)

25 Not sure if it's her, but it looks like Pussy Galore

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (RIvx9)

26 Benedict Cumberbatch is quite yummy.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (d7Ww2)

27 17 That is a woman NOT afraid of her cleavage. Good on her.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (d1uFV)

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Nice to see you around. I was gonna write you an email to see if you were still alive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (q80AH)

28 Willowed

The President and foreign minister of Ukraine both say they were unaware of any Quid Pro Quo demand. What the fuck else do they need? I want to take a flamethrower to these Dems.


Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (Q5ALd)

29 4 Wait; the 4th pic is from The Prisoner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (Ejm1K)


Yes! Apparently she did a guest shot on at least one episode.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (2cwOe)

30 Willowed


465
450

Kelly O'Donnell


@KellyO


SONDLAND TESTIMONY:


He says Pres. never spoke about military aid as a condition to him

"EVER" but he came to learn by Sept 8th that 'EVERYONE" knew and "I was

absolutely convinced it was"








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Well by that standard, who's going down for the Epstein murder?



Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (KUaJL)



So
they all got into Schiffs big circle jerk, made up the story and agreed
to it as "TRUTH" in spite of the facts. Then LtCol Puffy
McMuffinstuffer tried to access the transcript to insert what they all
agreed to and found it to be under lock and key. But the ball was
already rolling and maybe Puffy McMuffinstuffer tried to access the
secure classified server above his authorization level..........

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (ymnmz)

31 Lasagna is a hot sandwich.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 11:23 AM (ngSZO)

32 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 11:23 AM (arJlL)

33 Lasagna is a hot dog Christmas movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:23 AM (q80AH)

34 Benelux Crumple-snap. No idea who the chick is, at all.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 20, 2019 11:23 AM (xPJvm)

35 Mark!

So goooooood to see you!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (d7Ww2)

36 And props to Lizzy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (d1uFV)

37 Chad Pergram @ChadPergram

45s

The future of the Trump presidency and impeachment could pivot on
the next 45 minutes and how Republicans handle Sondland. Remember.
Sondland is their witness


That's some weapons-grade, galactic-level wishcasting right there.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (DU2N9)

38 7 Benedict Cumberbatch and his mom, Bond girl Wanda Ventham!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (bDqIh)


Yes! And you're looking at her now because you, yes ,*you*, mentioned her name on Monday and I looked her up.

So, hat-tip.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (2cwOe)

39 >>Benedict Cumberbatch is quite yummy.


Huh. I think he's strange looking, but he has a great voice.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (bDqIh)

40 Lasagna was secretly the hero!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (1XNk8)

41 39 >>Benedict Cumberbatch is quite yummy.


Huh. I think he's strange looking, but he has a great voice.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (bDqIh)

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He looks great in The Hobbit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (q80AH)

42 Hey Nurse!

Thanks, I'm studying for my interview tomorrow.

I am WAY down on anyone's prayer list but I have an in-person interview on Thursday if anyone is feeling extra charitable in the prayer department.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (d1uFV)

43 7 Benedict Cumberbatch and his mom, Bond girl Wanda Ventham!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019


*
*

Ah! And I see I was right -- she was in both UFO and The Prisoner.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (Ejm1K)

44 Redskins have to host the Lions this weekend. I am worried cuz we might be able to win this one. Bengals have the Steelers coming in so they too may win a game.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (yRAFu)

45 Man, made me feel bad for the ettes today

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (Fxgkp)

46 If I am reading the statement about Sondland correctly, I am genuinely perplexed how these people get into and retain their positions.

The Big Guy never talked talked to his EU Ambassador about a quid-pro-quo. In fact, he explicitly *denied* and desire in that regard.

But then, based on the rumor chamber that is DC and diplomatic corps, Sondland came to believe not what he was directly told by his boss but instead what he was told by others his boss purportedly said to him.

That is weak-minded and weak-spined. No one like that should be an Ambassador to anything.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (I2dne)

47 Lasagna is comfort food on my home world.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (sjdRT)

48 Fen has offered to bring a T-day meal to rickl the day after Thanksgiving. I have written to rickl but haven't heard back. I think he's confused about getting his e-mail on his laptop while in the hospital. I don't give out his e-mail addy (or physical house address) unless I specifically ask him if it's ok. The only exception I made to that is when we were searching for him in Oct. and Wyatt Earp was helping by having an ex-partner of his go to Rick's house.

Also....

Chique- if you're around my e-mail is moronettetami at gmail.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (cF8AT)

49 He looks great in The Hobbit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (q80AH)

His voice, the casting of Martin Freeman, and the opening song the dwarves sing are the only redeemable parts of that movie.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (KUaJL)

50 41 39 >>Benedict Cumberbatch is quite yummy.


Huh. I think he's strange looking, but he has a great voice.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (bDqIh)

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He looks great in The Hobbit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:24 AM (q80AH)

He's no Richard Boone

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (d1uFV)

51 Yum.

That lasagna looks good.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (RU4sa)

52 I am WAY down on anyone's prayer list but I have an in-person interview on Thursday if anyone is feeling extra charitable in the prayer department.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (d1uFV)

Good luck man, crush it

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (RIvx9)

53 Lasagna is lazy pie.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (yRAFu)

54 That gal is gorgeous. What happens if I flip those switches behind her?

Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (Y274z)

55 Lasagna isn't pasta, it's a casserole.
Posted by: joe

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Agreed. After the death of a family member, well wishers brought food. At one point, I had 13 trays of lasagna.

Will. Never. Eat. Lasagna. Again.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (Y4EXg)

56 The guy is Cumberbunk. Don't know the lady.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (+fPHo)

57 Benedict Cumberbatch

Sorry, I think he's ew looking.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (RU4sa)

58 Honor Blackmon and Benedict Cumberbatch
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


Yeah. I'd get on her.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (ob5xJ)

59 42 I am WAY down on anyone's prayer list but I have an in-person interview on Thursday if anyone is feeling extra charitable in the prayer department.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (d1uFV)

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I'll ask the Almighty in the Cathedral basement on Sunday (the upper Cathedral's getting a major paint job).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (q80AH)

60 That lasagna looks good.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (RU4sa)

Just the right amount of cheese, especially on the top layer. Mmmmmm...

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (DU2N9)

61 Good luck, Mark!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (I2dne)

62 With these impeachment hearings the Republic is dead. Not dying, dead. Trump will not be removed from office but the precedent is set and the next Republican elected to the Presidency will also be undermined if not impeached. Character assassination (*cough*Kavenaugh*cough*) or the prospect thereof will keep others away.

A Republic, we couldn't keep it.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (prSvo)

63
Lasagne is a sandwich -- fight me!

(please, please, please! I'm SO lonely!)

-- J'noah "Thought Leader" Goldbrick
Read me in your weekly shopper flyer!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (pNxlR)

64 23 He tried to stink up the room but after a while it all just evaporated into nothing. Like almost everything Democrats do.

Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (Y274z)


Wait, this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (2cwOe)

65 Thanks folks.

Y'all are Quality

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (d1uFV)

66 "Of course, it's not going to work, and then they're going to be faced with the possibility that next election, or the one after, the institutions that they've weaponized to use against Trump will be turned around and used against them."

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Gonna have to disagree there. The democrats know that the GOP doesn't have the stones to do this to their next President. "That's not who we are" etc etc

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (7HtZB)

67 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Just sent a note off to our local rag.

The lead story on page 2 was a snotty "journalism" piece from the AP about Vindman standing tall and insisting on being addressed by his rank. So I pointed out that, in our democratic republic, any civilian outranks a military officer and we can call the fucker "Vindman" or even "Lying Hack Loyal to the Deep State" if we want.

The bastard ought to be court martialed. Instead, he'll probably get a promotion.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Ki5SV)

68 Having lasagna tonight. Thinking of moving it up for lunch now tbh.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ngSZO)

69 I am WAY down on anyone's prayer list but I have an in-person interview on Thursday if anyone is feeling extra charitable in the prayer department.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:25 AM (d1uFV)

Good luck man, crush it
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter



Yeah Mark. What Biggs said. Good luck and crush it!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ob5xJ)

70 "Oh, and Trump should be impeached for undermining long-standing foreign policy put in place by, I don't know, career diplomats. That's a good one."

the chutzpa of that single statement just gob-smacks me. i mean, i get they think they're the smartest and bestest on the planet, but that single statement should be enough reason to empty the halls of government and force everyone to reapply to get their job.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (8D42x)

71 I love lasagna. It is a full meal in a single slice.

Except once, when Mannix, Sr. made one and broke a jar of sauce he uses as a base. He thought it was okay.

Narrator: It was not okay. It was a lasagna with a bunch of broken glass as an ingredient.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (I2dne)

72 I am WAY down on anyone's prayer list but I have an in-person interview on Thursday if anyone is feeling extra charitable in the prayer department.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

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Prayers up for you!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Y4EXg)

73 62 With these impeachment hearings the Republic is dead. Not dying, dead. Trump will not be removed from office but the precedent is set and the next Republican elected to the Presidency will also be undermined if not impeached. Character assassination (*cough*Kavenaugh*cough*) or the prospect thereof will keep others away.

A Republic, we couldn't keep it.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (prSvo)

==========

The precedent will only persist if Democrats aren't punished for it.

The 116th Congress of the United States could end up as a warning for those who wish to abuse impeachment to reverse an election.

We shall see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (q80AH)

74 Who this? A mom and her son. Wanda Ventham and Khaaaaaaan!

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (noE+3)

75 Lasagna is comfort food on my home world.

And the water is wet there !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (arJlL)

76 Willowed

What I find amusing about Anna Karenina is that many women read it in college (including my wife who recommended it to me). Occasionally the subject comes up when discussing books (not something I often do but this one was a fav), I like to point out that Tolstoy was on record as saying he conceived of Anna as a fallen woman not, as was becoming the thing with the rise of communism, as a heroine. Some women who read it in college want to argue with me about it, but I'm always impressed by the women who did not know this and I get to see the lights come on. Many felt the exact same way as Tolstoy but were intimidated by their teachers to believe that they were wrong.
Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (66rlH)


It takes a certain level of obtuseness, regularly found at the old folks home called kollidge, to consider Anna a heroine. Tolstoy was quite a cockster as a young man; doubtlessly he banged a few Anna types and, once he'd extricated himself, thought "maybe I should write a book about a grasping skeezer".

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (y7DUB)

77 56 The guy is Cumberbunk. Don't know the lady.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 20, 2019 11:26 AM (+fPHo)


His mom. Seriously.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (2cwOe)

78 Jusse is suing Shitcago for malicious prosecution.

I laughed.

If this doesn't get thrown out on summary judgement the place is terminal....oh wait...

Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (Y274z)

79 The bastard ought to be court martialed. Instead, he'll probably get a promotion.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Ki5SV)

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That he's not should tell you the caliber of officers residing in the five-sided nuthouse.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (RU4sa)

80
Hair burner in Aisle 62

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (pNxlR)

81
Sounds to me like Trump's big crime was not taking direction from the striped-pants boys. I had no idea we had a Foreign Policy like the Church has a Magesterium.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (1WVHz)

82 "Of course, it's not going to work, and then they're going to be faced with the possibility that next election, or the one after, the institutions that they've weaponized to use against Trump will be turned around and used against them"

i admire your optimism, but we ALL know that's just not who we are. we need to heal the country and work with our friends across the aisle to reduce the adversarial nature of politics and go back to the comity we had prior to that evil, bad, trump guy....

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:30 AM (8D42x)

83 Lasagna is comfort food on my home world.
Posted by: Muad'dib



Brooklyn?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:30 AM (ob5xJ)

84 http://bit.ly/2XvntMM
********
Trump approval ticks up amid impeachment battle: Gallup | TheHill

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:30 AM (BqBId)

85 Now yahoo's breaking news banner is claiming that lawmakers are "quizzing Sondland after he confirms quid pro quo".

This is where a lot of younger people get their news in headline bites.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (v2Axo)

86 "With these impeachment hearings the Republic is dead. Not dying, dead."



How many proclamations of the death of the republic does this make? I know there have been over a dozen.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (hLRSq)

87 Best frozen lasagna is Michelangelo. Closest to homemade I have found.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Q5ALd)

88 Keeping up the struggle for a ginger homeland.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Fxgkp)

89 Broken glass Lasagna reminds me of my wife's cooking

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (FZYNt)

90 Wanda Ventham

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (RU4sa)

91 Sounds to me like Trump's big crime was not taking direction from the striped-pants boys. I had no idea we had a Foreign Policy like the Church has a Magesterium.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (1WVHz)
++++++++++++++
That is the biggest thing I have gotten from this farce. People like me and many others here have always asserted that the Deep State - that is, the permanent bureaucratic/diplomatic/administrative corps - believes that they are entitled to run the country as they see fit and view the citizens as, at best, an irrelevance or, more generally, they view them with contempt.

They finally said it themselves. In congress. Under oath. On national television.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (I2dne)

92 81
Sounds to me like Trump's big crime was not taking direction from the striped-pants boys. I had no idea we had a Foreign Policy like the Church has a Magesterium.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (1WVHz)

The State Department has always been it's own little kingdom. Going all the way back to Adams, at least.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (d1uFV)

93 @stevenportnoy

NEW: @VP's office strongly denies Sondland ever talked aid w/Pence.

"The Vice President never had a conversation with Gordon Sondland about investigating the Bidens, Burisma, or the conditional release of financial aid to Ukraine based upon potential investigations."

"Ambassador Gordon Sondland was never alone with Vice President Pence on the September 1 trip to Poland. This alleged discussion recalled by Ambassador Sondland never happened," says @VP's chief of staff, Marc Short.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (cF8AT)

94 Orange Man Alert...

I repeat, Orange Man Alert...

Posted by: That bald guy with square glasses on the cool phone at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (Z1ykJ)

95 I agree with #73 - the next election will determine if we remain republic. If the Democrats are badly punished at the polls, and I mean brutally punished, we will likely survive. If they win, especially the presidency, we're finished, because it will show that endless investigations, impeachment, and activity by the bureaucracy are tools of the permanent campaign.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (noE+3)

96 86 "With these impeachment hearings the Republic is dead. Not dying, dead."



How many proclamations of the death of the republic does this make? I know there have been over a dozen.
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The Republic was dead at Ft. Sumter.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (yRAFu)

97 Way too much wall o'cheese atop that lasagna.



Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (1XNk

heresy

no such thing as too much cheese...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)

98 "Of course, it's not going to work, and then they're
going to be faced with the possibility that next election, or the one
after, the institutions that they've weaponized to use against Trump
will be turned around and used against them"



i admire your optimism, but we ALL know that's just not who we are.
we need to heal the country and work with our friends across the aisle
to reduce the adversarial nature of politics and go back to the comity
we had prior to that evil, bad, trump guy....

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:30 AM (8D42x)

The stakes for the 2020 election really couldn't possibly be higher. We either continue as a (nominal) Republic - which is only possible if Trump is re-elected and the Democrats get absolutely decimated at the Congressional level - or we continue the long slide into shithole status that the milk-chocolate messiah got us started down.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (DU2N9)

99 Lasagna isn't pasta, it's a casserole.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (KUaJL)

*******

It's an Eyetalian Hotdish

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (flINI)

100 The lead story on page 2 was a snotty "journalism" piece from the AP about Vindman standing tall and insisting on being addressed by his rank. So I pointed out that, in our democratic republic, any civilian outranks a military officer and we can call the fucker "Vindman" or even "Lying Hack Loyal to the Deep State" if we want.

The bastard ought to be court martialed. Instead, he'll probably get a promotion.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Ki5SV)


Listening to the military guys in my Twitter feed, they all say that pretty much every unit has a guy like Vindman in it. And this wasn't meant as a compliment.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (2cwOe)

101 With these impeachment hearings the Republic is
dead. Not dying, dead. Trump will not be removed from office but the
precedent is set and the next Republican elected to the Presidency will
also be undermined if not impeached. Character assassination
(*cough*Kavenaugh*cough*) or the prospect thereof will keep others away.



A Republic, we couldn't keep it.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (prSvo)


Yeah, but we can easily reclaim it, if....if we find our fucking balls.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (9Om/r)

102 "Oh, and Trump should be impeached for undermining long-standing foreign policy put in place by, I don't know, career diplomats. That's a good one."


Truman fired MacArthur to emphasize who gets to set policy, and it wasn't going to be Douglas. Too many people in DC need to re-learn that lesson (if they ever learned it in the first place.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (hLRSq)

103 Watching a CLE right now, guy is going on about how lawyers are the most honorable and unselfish profession and how he gets triggered when people call him an ambulance chaser because it's so inappropriate.

It's almost as cringey as calling the Deep State "public servants."

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (RIvx9)

104 Republicans should go ahead and draw up articles of impeachment for Biden. Sure he's not the President now or will he be, but the rules have changed, no?

Impeach Biden now! Start the hearings.

Let's call it 'preemptive impeachment'.

Fuck you, War!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (GoNER)

105 I love that Kerry's pinkie is up in the cookie jar.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (al6UK)

106 All those months of ranting where are the indictments don't seem so silly now, eh?

Horowitz is in on the coup, and we've allowed our chance to fight back to slip away.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (Fxgkp)

107 I'm so old that I remember when quid pro quo was a euphemism for "Strings".

Those things that always came with federal money.

Also known as leverage.

"You do what we want, how we want it, or we take the money back".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (ob5xJ)

108 Nunes just used "INCONVIENT TRUTH" HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (BqBId)

109 The democrats know that the GOP doesn't have the stones to do this to their next President. "That's not who we are" etc etc
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:28 AM (7HtZB)


In fairness to the GOP (a phrase that I usually don't employ), it's asymmetrical warfare to restore the Constitution, on the rare occasion they do that, versus destroy it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (y7DUB)

110 Prayers up Horde,

Mark Andrews, you are never too far down the list for prayer. Everyone's need is important to them, and thus important to the Almighty. I hope this interview goes well for you!

Posted by: Moki at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (mFoNl)

111 heresy

no such thing as too much cheese...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)

Too much cheese is...binding.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (1XNk8)

112 heresy

no such thing as too much cheese...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)
+++++++++++++
Mannix: I'd like a plain pizza with extra cheese.
:: waits ::
:: pizza arrives ::
Mannix: I ordered extra cheese.
Waiter: That is with extra cheese.
:: disappointment ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:35 AM (I2dne)

113 Elbows and Cumbernuts!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 11:35 AM (LISuA)

114 Wanda Ventham was a Bond girl? Which movie? Or is it the story IMDb tells, that she lost out on the role of Jill Masterson, who gets painted gold, to Shirley Eaton?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:35 AM (Ejm1K)

115 New KHAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 11:35 AM (gmo/4)

116 ... I think I'm going to sue Adam Schiff for whiplash.

______


With that 18" pencil neck and according to the "butterfly effect" (settled science!), victims of Hurricane Dorian could blame the cause of Schiff-for-brains whiplashes this year -- instead of anthropogenic global warming -- and sue him for property damage.

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 11:35 AM (WwKfB)

117
Breaking: Don Trump Jr walked into Sondland testimony with Sondland's brother. They sit down together. Sondland gets amnesia.

Posted by: Frank Pentangeli at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (+oR7L)

118 The main thing 'bout food is that it jump into my belly and includes lasagna. Best I ever had was made by a Italian gal from Ishpeming.

Posted by: cowtown at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (WX+x0)

119 Listening to the military guys in my Twitter feed, they all say that pretty much every unit has a guy like Vindman in it. And this wasn't meant as a compliment.
Posted by: OregonMuse


Every unit has a guy like Vindman and it's one guy too many.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (ob5xJ)

120 If you attack Lt Col Vindman, or allow him to be attacked, you are a traitor.
-Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 19, 2019


So my loyalty should be to the guy the Ukes offered MinDef to?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (oVJmc)

121 So, Jonny, who's our next contestant on 'Hearsay Witness"?

Posted by: Bruce at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (vd8XM)

122 So, why is is the Republicans called this idiot to testify? This is, allegedly, their witness, right? Seems like a moron - he's emphatically told by his boss, directly, that there is no QPQ but is convinced there is because of the buzz of the careerist Trump-haters around him?

Top. Man.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (DU2N9)

123 Wanda's offspring's eyes are too far apart.

Very alien-like.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (RU4sa)

124 Didnt think possible, but drudge is more anti Trump than HotGas these days. The shift is pretty amazing to see.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (zkFz1)

125 So far the Demofascists have made a very persuasive case that Hunter Biden has been a bad boy.

Posted by: Boneless Pork Rectum (R-Utah) at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (LISuA)

126 Every election is the most important election.

No, I'm not being wry. We have tried to 'coast' before and we got Presidents Billy and Barry and all their associated corruption.

Evil never sleeps. And it has to be constantly fought.

Ain't no rest for the wicked.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (d1uFV)

127 I like my cheese with cheese on it.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (88+cf)

128 Carrot Stick diplomacy. It's been around since the inception.

Posted by: portlandon at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (+oR7L)

129 If you attack Lt Col Vindman, or allow him to be attacked, you are a traitor.
-Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 19, 2019

---

EAD

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (RU4sa)

130 Listening to the military guys in my Twitter feed, they all say that pretty much every unit has a guy like Vindman in it. And this wasn't meant as a compliment.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (2cwOe)
++++++++++
Oh, that guy? Ignore that guy that. He's a real Vindman.

I hope this enters the lexicon. "Vindman" is much easier than, "disloyal, machinating, lying shitweasel."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (I2dne)

131 123 Wanda's offspring's eyes are too far apart.

Very alien-like.
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (RU4sa)

I've noticed a lot of young actors & actresses lately have wide set eyes.

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (7HtZB)

132 every unit has a guy like Vindman in it. And this wasn't meant as a compliment.
Posted by: OregonMuse

Yup. Ran into more than a few officers and NCOs who remind me of Vindaloo, and in fact some were part of the reason I did not reenlist.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (xPJvm)

133 Sounds to me like Trump's big crime was not taking direction from the striped-pants boys. I had no idea we had a Foreign Policy like the Church has a Magesterium.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (1WVHz)
------------------------

And this sense of entitlement, that "we're the professionals" absolutely infuriates me.

These so-called "professionals" have done nothing to advance the interests of the US, and, in fact, have actively worked against the US.

Yet, they think "business as usual" is sacrosanct, no matter the lack of accomplishing anything other than attending swanky parties.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (qC1Sy)

134 @FreedomWorks

SONDLAND: "I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo."

Video:

https://tinyurl.com/trjqg3u

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (cF8AT)

135 Oh Nooos...

Trump wanted someone to "do the right thing".

Impeach the motherfucker.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (U6f/q)

136 Listening to the military guys in my Twitter feed, they all say that pretty much every unit has a guy like Vindman in it. And this wasn't meant as a compliment.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:33 AM (2cwOe)

---

Boy, is that true.

Shitbags that fail upwards, sorta like in the civvie world.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (RU4sa)

137 93
@stevenportnoy



NEW: @VP's office strongly denies Sondland ever talked aid w/Pence.



"The Vice President never had a conversation with Gordon Sondland
about investigating the Bidens, Burisma, or the conditional release of
financial aid to Ukraine based upon potential investigations."



"Ambassador Gordon Sondland was never alone with Vice President
Pence on the September 1 trip to Poland. This alleged discussion
recalled by Ambassador Sondland never happened," says @VP's chief of
staff, Marc Short.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (cF8AT)


Now they can call Pence as a witness? Convenient.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (CQ3Qb)

138 If you attack Lt Col Vindman, or allow him to be attacked, you are a traitor.
-Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 19, 2019

And what are you if you ruin General Flynn's life?

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (7HtZB)

139 Posted by: Moki at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (mFoNl)

Thank you most humbly.

And thanks to the rest of youse guys and gals.

I'm gonna go study for a bit. Be back later....ah that feels good to say that again!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (d1uFV)

140 OH, and as the perpetual anonymous guy who needs more work and rough places made smooth, I'd like to say, thank you very much.

I'm not sure it's helping, it's always two steps forward and three steps back... BUT... thanks a bunch anyways..

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, in Erath, Near Carcosa at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (dwojT)

141 Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 19, 2019


His twitter bio: "Investigator who helped expose #TrumpRussia. "


Oh, WELL.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (oVJmc)

142 It's actually sort of funny how Cumberbatch can be so profoundly goofy looking and also incredibly handsome. It's "presence" or something. And of course, he looks like himself and not a generic other actor guy.

Posted by: Synova at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (BD/yx)

143 And this sense of entitlement, that "we're the professionals" absolutely infuriates me.

These so-called "professionals" have done nothing to advance the interests of the US, and, in fact, have actively worked against the US.

Yet, they think "business as usual" is sacrosanct, no matter the lack of accomplishing anything other than attending swanky parties.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (qC1Sy)
+++++++++++++++
There's a word for them. I don't know why the word never really took off. These people are technocrats. Their petty deity is Tom "I'm an expert and we should live in a technocracy" Nichols.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (I2dne)

144 Hey how come nobody gives me any love these days? Everyone is drooling over that slut Ukraine.
- Russian Collusion

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (zkFz1)

145 I hope this enters the lexicon. "Vindman" is much easier than, "disloyal, machinating, lying shitweasel."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (I2dne


Like Roy Munson from Kingpin.

I got Munsoned.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (GoNER)

146 One thing this Schiff Show has brought front and center is just how important these people believe they are.

When you know you cannot be fired for anything less than murdering the person in the next cubicle, you end up with a certainty that whatever you want to do is fine. This attitude is on blatant display in these hearings.

The laws regarding firing these assholes needs to be changed, and anyone running for the House or Senate who offers to change them to something resembling the real world, would win in a landslide.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (v2Axo)

147 If you attack Lt Col Vindman, or allow him to be attacked, you are a traitor.

-Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 19, 2019


Lt. Gen. Flynn and Lt. Col. Oliver North couldn't be reached for comment.

Neither could MAJ Tulsi Gabbard.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (DU2N9)

148 Waiter: That is with extra cheese.
:: disappointment ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:35 AM (I2dne)
-------------

I make pizza dough that's mostly cheese. That way I avoid the bitter disappointment of not being able to fit enough cheese on the pizza itself.

Also low carb.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (al6UK)

149 So, why is is the Republicans called this idiot to testify? This is, allegedly, their witness, right? Seems like a moron - he's emphatically told by his boss, directly, that there is no QPQ but is convinced there is because of the buzz of the careerist Trump-haters around him?

Top. Man.
Posted by: DocJ

______________

The Trump Administration has made some of the most stupid personnel decisions of any Presidency.

And it just keep happening over and over again.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (sjTfF)

150 Gordon Sondlund just read an email and it made me come in my pants.

Posted by: Scott Dworkin at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (LISuA)

151 And what are you if you ruin General Flynn's life?
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:38 AM (7HtZB)
+++++++++
A patriot. Duh.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (I2dne)

152 Too much cheese is...binding.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (1XNk
-------------

That's why you balance it out with Mexican.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (qC1Sy)

153 Good!
West Virginia Stages Revolt Against Drag Queen Story Hour, Forces Cancellation in Public Library

"The Morgantown Public Library System (MPLS) regrets to announce that,
due to multiple threats of violence against the volunteer readers, Drag
Queen Story Time scheduled for November 16 is cancelled," they wrote.

"MPLS remains committed to fostering a love of reading for all ages and
interests and to serving a diverse community. The Library will replace
the cancelled event with a story time conducted by Library Staff.
Families who planned to attend the 10 AM, November 16th story time will
still be able to enjoy a family-friendly event that celebrates our love
of books," they added.


Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)

154 Yup. Ran into more than a few officers and NCOs who remind me of Vindaloo, and in fact some were part of the reason I did not reenlist.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 20, 2019 11:37 AM (xPJvm)

---

Considered reupping in 2008, briefly.

Having the biggest shitbag as my CiC in 2009 made my decision not to so much easier.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (RU4sa)

155 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (d1uFV)

good luck, prayers added. you'll kill tomorrow.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (8D42x)

156 Best frozen lasagna is Michelangelo. Closest to homemade I have found.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Q5ALd)

Nah man.
Hungry Man.
Comes with carrots and an apple dessert thing.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 11:41 AM (88+cf)

157 144 Hey how come nobody gives me any love these days? Everyone is drooling over that slut Ukraine.
- Russian Collusion
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (zkFz1)

Meanwhile Belarus must be wondering when she gets a ride

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:41 AM (7HtZB)

158 Self-importance thought:

My dad is an academic. He's actually world famous in his field and one of the top minds in experimental design.

He's been lauded worldwide, and, in particular, in Sweden.

He's been honored with very formal ceremonies where he had to wear coat and tails and was awarded a traditional Swedish doctor's hat.

He was telling me this, and I responded, "Wow, academics sure do celebrate themselves well, don't they?"

He laughed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:42 AM (q80AH)

159 Mark!
Good luck and prayers up for you.
Crush it.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 20, 2019 11:42 AM (Tt761)

160 Vindman, in the tradition of John Kerry, received his Purple Heart Medal after an IED attack.

He received a band aid and a medic kissed his boo-boo. He returned to duty that afternoon.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (U6f/q)

161 Sondlund, Democrats favorite witness, says he never heard Trump ask for a QPQ. DailyKos calls that a "pretense" and urges him to drop it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (LISuA)

162 The last Cumberbatch pic (drawing) - was he ever in a role like that?

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (G546f)

163 That is the biggest thing I have gotten from this
farce. People like me and many others here have always asserted that the
Deep State - that is, the permanent
bureaucratic/diplomatic/administrative corps - believes that they are
entitled to run the country as they see fit and view the citizens as, at
best, an irrelevance or, more generally, they view them with contempt.



They finally said it themselves. In congress. Under oath. On national television.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (I2dne)

You just have to wonder if this whole damn thing isn't some 11th dimension chess by trump. All the shit in the underbelly is exposing themselves, with enthusiasm. They all stood to be counted. The marxists, the tyrants, the anti americans, the coup plotters...all of them. The entire lid is blown off the deep state and the exact assholes trump warned us about in his inaugural address. Saves a lot of time playing whack a mole, he grouped them up for mass extinction.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (9Om/r)

164 "Of course, it's not going to work, and then they're
going to be faced with the possibility that next election, or the one
after, the institutions that they've weaponized to use against Trump
will be turned around and used against them"



i admire your optimism, but we ALL know that's just not who we are.
we need to heal the country and work with our friends across the aisle
to reduce the adversarial nature of politics and go back to the comity
we had prior to that evil, bad, trump guy....

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:30 AM (8D42x)

The stakes for the 2020 election really couldn't possibly be higher. We either continue as a (nominal) Republic - which is only possible if Trump is re-elected and the Democrats get absolutely decimated at the Congressional level - or we continue the long slide into shithole status that the milk-chocolate messiah got us started down.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (DU2N9)

this i agree with. i just think that given the change the gope would rather fold and keep getting the right sorts of party invites rather than fight for principals, very few excepted from that.

but i think this election could move the date around for electric boogaloo II...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (8D42x)

165 Is there any way that Pencil Neck could be removed from office?

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (Uu+Jp)

166 Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)
+++++++++++
This notion confuses me. Not even necessarily the drag queens part - that's just revolting and evil - but the group storytime thing.

Is this really common? It is something I didn't experience and I am not that old. I had some group story times in kindergarten and group reading exercises in first grade.

Beyond that, every story time was with mom or dad (usually dad) and rarely with my older brother reading to me.

The idea of schlepping out of the house to a group story time somewhere else is totally outside of my experience. I didn't even know this kind of thing existed until the drag queens got involved.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (I2dne)

167 153
Good!
West Virginia Stages Revolt Against Drag Queen Story Hour, Forces Cancellation in Public Library

"The Morgantown Public Library System (MPLS) regrets to announce that,

due to multiple threats of violence against the volunteer readers, Drag

Queen Story Time scheduled for November 16 is cancelled," they wrote.

"MPLS remains committed to fostering a love of reading for all ages and

interests and to serving a diverse community. The Library will replace

the cancelled event with a story time conducted by Library Staff.

Families who planned to attend the 10 AM, November 16th story time will

still be able to enjoy a family-friendly event that celebrates our love

of books," they added.

Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.


Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)
Finally someone (MPLS) gets it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (N39Ws)

168 You just have to wonder if this whole damn thing isn't some 11th dimension chess by trump. All the shit in the underbelly is exposing themselves, with enthusiasm. They all stood to be counted. The marxists, the tyrants, the anti americans, the coup plotters...all of them. The entire lid is blown off the deep state and the exact assholes trump warned us about in his inaugural address. Saves a lot of time playing whack a mole, he grouped them up for mass extinction.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (9Om/r)

Didn't he just say a few days ago before getting aboard Marine One that "I've got them all lined up" or something like that?

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:45 AM (7HtZB)

169 Wanda's offspring's eyes are too far apart.

Very alien-like.
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (RU4sa)

I've noticed a lot of young actors & actresses lately have wide set eyes.
Posted by: josephistan


Inbreeding.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:45 AM (fBape)

170 169 Wanda's offspring's eyes are too far apart.

Very alien-like.
Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 11:36 AM (RU4sa)

I've noticed a lot of young actors & actresses lately have wide set eyes.
Posted by: josephistan


Inbreeding.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:45 AM (fBape)

=========

They need to expand the gene pool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:45 AM (q80AH)

171 Ah, I thought that guy yesterday looked familiar: Edward Woodward, star of one of my favorite movies (Breaker Morant, in which he also sang) and television shows (The Equalizer).

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 11:45 AM (WwKfB)

172 The Trump Administration has made some of the most stupid personnel decisions of any Presidency.

And it just keep happening over and over again.
Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (sjTfF)

It's one way to get rid of him.

I heard on Rush or Levin or somewhere that when Obama came in, he fired the entire diplomatic corp. All of them were gone and although they could reapply, he ended up putting the clowns we see today in place because they were of like mind. Then , the rules to fire these people were changed so the next president could not do the same. I only heard part of the discussion, so don't know the details, but that is why we have Obama loyalists still in place, helping to reinforce the resistance.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (v2Axo)

173 He received a band aid and a medic kissed his boo-boo. He returned to duty that afternoon.


Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (U6f/q)


I don't usually question PH's. If a guy gets hurt in combat I don't like to question his sincerity. But I am curious, if only because Vindman looks like and out of shape desk guy, so is this statement true? Did he in fact have a very minor injury and return immediately to duty?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (LISuA)

174 >>Didn't he just say a few days ago before getting aboard Marine One that "I've got them all lined up" or something like that?

He said:

I caught the swamp, I caught them all.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

175 166
166
Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)

+++++++++++

This notion confuses me. Not even necessarily the drag queens part -
that's just revolting and evil - but the group storytime thing.



Is this really common? It is something I didn't experience and I am
not that old. I had some group story times in kindergarten and group
reading exercises in first grade.



Beyond that, every story time was with mom or dad (usually dad) and rarely with my older brother reading to me.



The idea of schlepping out of the house to a group story time
somewhere else is totally outside of my experience. I didn't even know
this kind of thing existed until the drag queens got involved.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (I2dne)

My town has childrens story hour - something like once a week. I would take my daughter there while she was growing up. And now I have a book hound for a daughter - and that isn't a bad thing.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (N39Ws)

176 Nah man.
Hungry Man.
Comes with carrots and an apple dessert thing.
Posted by: Roland THTG


You should try the Hungry Man Chili. It comes with carrots too.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (fBape)

177 There have been zero changes in Trump's economic team. Would you say they've been a success?

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (JKNZq)

178

Myrna Loy?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 11:47 AM (oIPis)

179 Best frozen lasagna is Michelangelo. Closest to homemade I have found.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Q5ALd)

Nah man.
Hungry Man.
Comes with carrots and an apple dessert thing.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 11:41 AM (88+cf)



Also, when you're done the aluminum tray can be molded into fashionable headgear.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2019 11:47 AM (XVuno)

180 >>The idea of schlepping out of the house to a group story time somewhere
else is totally outside of my experience. I didn't even know this kind
of thing existed until the drag queens got involved.


It's foreign to me, too.

A guess? It's something that started when it became more common for nannies to take kids to the library than parents. Gives them a break to hang with the other nannies while the libraries keep 'em occupied.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (bDqIh)

181 165 Is there any way that Pencil Neck could be removed from office?
Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (Uu+Jp)

only one way I can think of, but we don't talk about that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (Kpl3J)

182 Wanda Ventham is a very handsome woman. Not just pretty, but a very elegant and classic face.

How she got that bug-eyed weirdo kid of hers, I have no idea.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (oVJmc)

183 no such thing as too much cheese...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)

Too much cheese is...binding.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:34 AM (1XNk

that's why you have red wine with cheese, a bottle or two and it'll clean you out pretty well...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (8D42x)

184 June Lockhart and Engelbert Humperdinck

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (3Z6pZ)

185 My town has childrens story hour - something like once a week. I would take my daughter there while she was growing up. And now I have a book hound for a daughter - and that isn't a bad thing.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (N39Ws)
+++++++++++++
It wasn't a value statement. I can see how it would be nice and useful for kids. I just never knew about it - story time was a family affair when I was a kid. When I heard about this drag queen crap, I didn't understand that venue existed (let alone was populated with perverts).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (I2dne)

186
Wanda Ventham from "UFO." Young teenage JJ sez "would hit!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (zBaqJ)

187 Is there any way that Pencil Neck could be removed from office?
Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (Uu+Jp)

Only the House, I believe, can vote him out( like they did with Jim Traficant (D) when he was sentenced to prison. Schiff is from CA, don't know if they have recall laws there for Federal representatives.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (v2Axo)

188 22 Nice addition of an image from The Prisioner.

Damn prescient show...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 20, 2019 11:22 AM (d1uFV)

The panopticon and Deep State rolled into one.

Good to see you brother. Break a leg tomorrow.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (NWiLs)

189 Anyone taking direction from Scott Dworkin needs to be institutionalized.

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (Uu+Jp)

190 There's a word for them. I don't know why the word never really took off. These people are technocrats. Their petty deity is Tom "I'm an expert and we should live in a technocracy" Nichols.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (I2dne)
----------------------

Yep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (qC1Sy)

191 162 The last Cumberbatch pic (drawing) - was he ever in a role like that?
Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (G546f)


No, I think the artist was imagining him as a young Sauron.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (2cwOe)

192 The lady was in the series UFO, which was great, though I know not her name.

She wasn't in the band UFO, which was also great.



The guy is Blunderbuss Hoobestank.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (dMoB0)

193 He was telling me this, and I responded, "Wow, academics sure do celebrate themselves well, don't they?"

He laughed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:42 AM (q80AH)


They're almost as bad as journalists.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (2cwOe)

194 Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (dMoB0)

@ 186.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (zBaqJ)

195 Schiff should bring in The Drag Queens to get their take on the Ukraine call.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (88+cf)

196 I totally get that Trump may have been saddled with Sondlund because firing the entire State Department like JugEars did would be impeachable.

My question is why the fucking fuck did Nunes call this moron to testify? Sounds like all he's doing is muddying the waters.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (DU2N9)

197 "Of course, it's not going to work, and then they're going to be faced
with the possibility that next election, or the one after, the
institutions that they've weaponized to use against Trump will be turned
around and used against them."


This is the only statement I disagree with OM because these institutions are infested by leftist Democrat operatives, no matter who the appointed Director may be, even if a Republican. These operatives will never turn against any Democrat.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (mNUzX)

198 Schiff is from CA, don't know if they have recall laws there for Federal representatives.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (v2Axo)


No such thing as a recall for a Federal elected office.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (CQ3Qb)

199 They're almost as bad as journalists.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (2cwOe)

Posted by: Actors at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (KUaJL)

200 Very minor thing in the grand scheme of things but I'm having another headache day (same as yesterday) - praying types please squeeze me in if possible

thanks

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 11:50 AM (G546f)

201 Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)

People who should read to kids in a library: parents, teachers, librarians, authors. No one else need apply.

Would you want the shoprite cashier or the valu-rite cashier offering to put the kiddies on their laps for a story? How about some random gardening hire? No. But if an unrelated, unqualified, unvetted male puts on loud make up and a dress, a ok? Bullshit

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 11:50 AM (U7k5w)

202 They need to expand the gene pool.

Apparently you weren't around when Ms Wanda needed seeding.

Just think, he got to nurse on those...

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 11:50 AM (8erNz)

203 Is there any way that Pencil Neck could be removed from office?
Posted by: Eric


Yes. Some are more legal than others.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:50 AM (fBape)

204 May God Bless the Afflicted with Health and Healing. May our Prayers be seen as well as heard.

Posted by: Adriane the Machine that Goes PING Critic ... at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (LPnfS)

205 165
Is there any way that Pencil Neck could be removed from office?

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:44 AM (Uu+Jp)

_______


"No comment." -- Zombie James Hodgkinson

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (G8dTy)

206 >>I caught the swamp, I caught them all.


Bigly.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (yDWtO)

207 @stevenportnoy 4 minutes ago

Trump, armed with quotes of Sondland's testimony, says his own telephone affirmation to the ambassador of no quid pro quo "means it's all over."

"This is the final word from the president of the United States," Trump said. "I want nothing."


FBN just played a clip of this.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (cF8AT)

208 >>Didn't he just say a few days ago before
getting aboard Marine One that "I've got them all lined up" or something
like that?



He said:



I caught the swamp, I caught them all.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)


It sure damn seems like it. Now the big question is, wall or helicopter?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (9Om/r)

209

So Sondland's big bombshell was did you talk to the president about a quid pro quo? No. He never heard it mentioned BUT it's the only logical conclusion you can draw from it. More opinion masquerading as facts

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (kw5n8)

210 No such thing as a recall for a Federal elected office.

And even if so, he probably can't buy a soy latte in his own district.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (8erNz)

211 Wanda Ventham from "UFO." Young teenage JJ sez "would hit!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

----

Young TP would have also but, similar to a dog chasing a car, at that age, would we even have known what to do with her once we caught her? lol

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (Y4EXg)

212 "Did he in fact have a very minor injury and return immediately to duty?"

He was probably wounded by a "shell fragment", from the poached egg he had for breakfast.

Posted by: Toad-O at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (ACwLk)

213 198 Schiff is from CA, don't know if they have recall laws there for Federal representatives.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (v2Axo)
No such thing as a recall for a Federal elected office.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (CQ3Qb)

Representatives face election every 2 years, so there's that. But Schiff is exactly what his district wants, they see nothing wrong with what he's doing. Schiff is California. California is Schiff.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (Kpl3J)

214 Library story time has been a fixture in most small town libraries for years. It was a way to help introduce using a library in kids minds, and could help them understand how to use a card catalog( now on a computer) , etc.

It's probably even more important today, with reduced use of libraries, physical books, etc.

Drag queens are just an absolute bizarre idea that comes from where, I don't know. Lesbian librarians?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (v2Axo)

215 Lesson: Fire most of the State Department, replace with your own people. At this point I would prefer we bring back the spoils system. At least that system allowed the President to actually run the executive branch, not a bureaucratic aristocracy. Worse the U.S. Congress basically has handed much of their legislative power over to that branch of government, not the president, but the same aristocracy.

Right now it looks like we have an oligarchy that masquerades as a republic.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (MuTTO)

216 Jussie Smollett sues city of Chicago for malicious prosecution

.. keep on digging

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (3aI0K)

217 Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)


This wouldn't be an issue if the parents would get it through their thick skulls that "drag queen story time" is just sex pervert grooming, and not let their kids attend.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (2cwOe)

218 Trump on a tear.

Posted by: Sooner at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (Fs5vw)

219 208 >>Didn't he just say a few days ago before
getting aboard Marine One that "I've got them all lined up" or something
like that?



He said:



I caught the swamp, I caught them all.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)


It sure damn seems like it. Now the big question is, wall or helicopter?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (9Om/r)

Winston Wolf warning applies.

I think he's exposed a shit-ton of the Swamp, but caught them all? That'd be like catching every tick in the woods in Michigan. Highly unlikely.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (NWiLs)

220 Sondman: Is she prettier than me?

Trump: No.

Sondman: You liar! I can tell you think she's prettier than me! I want a divorce. Also I've been screwing the pool boy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (KUaJL)

221 Oh.

>>KYIV. Nov 20 (Interfax Ukraine) Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions of the legalization of $7.4 billion by the "family" of ex-President Viktor Yanukovych through the American investment fund Franklin Templeton Investments, which they said has ties to the U.S. Democratic Party.

https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (ZLI7S)

222 Of course vmom.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (Y4EXg)

223 Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (dMoB0)

@ 186.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Thanks, JJ.


I have to correct myself.

The guy is actually Braunschweiger Hohenzollern, Patron Saint of Shitty Acting.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (dMoB0)

224 That's not desperation you're smelling. Just saying.

Posted by: Eric Squeezwell at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (2Mnv1)

225 218 Trump on a tear.
Posted by: Sooner at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (Fs5vw)
---------

Where?

Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (G0vdT)

226 Drag is just blackface for gay men.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (oVJmc)

227 Young TP would have also but, similar to a dog chasing a car, at that age, would we even have known what to do with her once we caught her? lol
Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (Y4EXg)

Tie her up, keep her in the basement, and make her your slave using trauma based mind control.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (ngSZO)

228 217 Kids don't need drag queens to read to them. Stop this insanity.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:40 AM (bDqIh)

This wouldn't be an issue if the parents would get it through their thick skulls that "drag queen story time" is just sex pervert grooming, and not let their kids attend.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (2cwOe)

Yep. Some parents need to be horse-whipped.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (NWiLs)

229 Drag queens are just an absolute bizarre idea that comes from where, I don't know. Lesbian librarians?
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (v2Axo)


Child molesters.

https://dragqueenstorytime.com/

Read their own description of what they do and tell me that's not grooming children to not resist being molested.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (2cwOe)

230 Is it me or does Sondland look like a deflating penis?

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (yDWtO)

231 Trump had to remediate the lawless going-OBD of #TheCriminalJoeBiden

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (3aI0K)

232 Pussy Galore?

Posted by: Avi at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (kSq2k)

233 You just have to wonder if this whole damn thing isn't some 11th dimension chess by trump. All the shit in the underbelly is exposing themselves, with enthusiasm. They all stood to be counted. The marxists, the tyrants, the anti americans, the coup plotters...all of them. The entire lid is blown off the deep state and the exact assholes trump warned us about in his inaugural address. Saves a lot of time playing whack a mole, he grouped them up for mass extinction.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:43 AM (9Om/r)

Sadly, the LIV aren't getting that.

I caught the today show first 5 minutes on the way out the door, where they were talking about the hearings yesterday.

the entire vindaloo segment was about his service, his patriotism, his letter to his dad, and how brave he was for coming forward and telling the truth - despite the "danger" to himself.

there was 0, Zero, NADA, ZILCH, about any actual substantive testimony he may have had yesterday.

that was the ENTIRE takeaway - a "patriot" risked his life to come testify in front of the congress of his fathers adopted homeland.

hollyweird couldn't have been more envious of how NBC framed it...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (8D42x)

234 So Sondland's big bombshell was did you talk to the president about a quid pro quo? No. He never heard it mentioned BUT it's the only logical conclusion you can draw from it. More opinion masquerading as facts.

Posted by: TheQuietMan


It's the only logical conclusion except that the military aid was provided and still there isn't a real investigation into Biden and Burisma.

Sondland is just another arrogant jackass who should be reduced to his component atoms, mixed with pig-shit, and fired into the center of the sun.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (dMoB0)

235 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (1XAal)

236 "so is this statement true? Did he in fact have a very minor injury and return immediately to duty?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 11:46 AM (LISuA)


Vindman testified about it himself. The democrat lawyer was going over his resume and asked how long he was incapacitated after the IED attack. Vindman said he was returned to duty that afternoon.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (U6f/q)

237 Posted by: Actors at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (KUaJL)
200 Very minor thing in the grand scheme of things but I'm having another headache day (same as yesterday) - praying types please squeeze me in if possible

thanks
Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 11:50 AM (G546f)

You got it. What is trapped in yarn?

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (U7k5w)

238 >>Would you want the shoprite cashier or the valu-rite cashier offering to
put the kiddies on their laps for a story? How about some random
gardening hire? No. But if an unrelated, unqualified, unvetted male puts
on loud make up and a dress, a ok? Bullshit


Drag queens are adult entertainment.
Would anyone buy into "Porn Star Story Hour" or "Penis Puppeteer Story Hour?"

*Yes, that second one is a thing.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

239 Just getting back to this. Don't know who the lady is but I'd sure like to play connect the dots with her freckles.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (LCzNi)

240 216 Jussie Smollett sues city of Chicago for malicious prosecution
_______________

His lawyers graduated from the Barbra Streisand School of Public Relations.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 11:56 AM (k4dH2)

241 Ooooh.

>>Joe Biden's son and his partners received $16.5 million from Burisma Ukrainian MP

https://tass.com/world/1090971

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:56 AM (ZLI7S)

242 Jussie Smollett sues city of Chicago for malicious prosecution

Dude.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 11:56 AM (Boy/L)

243 234 It's the only logical conclusion except that the military aid was provided and still there isn't a real investigation into Biden and Burisma.

Sondland is just another arrogant jackass who should be reduced to his component atoms, mixed with pig-shit, and fired into the center of the sun.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (dMoB0)

==========

All I know is that 20 Republican Senators are definitely going to convict and remove Trump over this when impeachment sails through the house with dozens of Republicans voting in favor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:56 AM (q80AH)

244 Drag queens are adult entertainment.
Would anyone buy into "Porn Star Story Hour" or "Penis Puppeteer Story Hour?"

*Yes, that second one is a thing.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (bDqIh)


"So I was delivering this pizza...."

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at November 20, 2019 11:57 AM (KUaJL)

245 Can Trump fire any fed employee who donated to Hillary?

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 11:57 AM (1XAal)

246
So Sondland's big bombshell was did you talk to
the president about a quid pro quo? No. He never heard it mentioned BUT
it's the only logical conclusion you can draw from it. More opinion
masquerading as facts


Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM

---

But all of the reporting this morning said he was going to claim that Trump told him to his face that he was going to with hold all aide until they investigated biden.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 11:57 AM (JUOKG)

247 If I may ask for some prayers, my little sister (55) is going in for open heart surgery Friday. Mitral valve replacement. Thanks
Free Tibet

Posted by: free tibet at November 20, 2019 11:57 AM (jexFU)

248 >>Read their own description of what they do and tell me that's not grooming children to not resist being molested.


Exactly.

Why bother teachng your kids "stranger danger" and then sit them in front of a drag queen and tell them it's good to be tolerant of sexual deviance.
WTF?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (bDqIh)

249 My dog just slammed into my knee while I was shoveling snow. I twisted my ankle in the process. I'm hoping my ankle doesn't get sore.

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (Uu+Jp)

250
Drag queens are just an absolute bizarre idea that comes from where, I don't know. Lesbian librarians?
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (v2Axo)

Pervs volunteering to have kids sit on their junk.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (U7k5w)

251 186


Wanda Ventham from "UFO." Young teenage JJ sez "would hit!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (zBaqJ)

_______


Where is old JJ and what have you done with him?

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (0FvcZ)

252 Photo 3 for Erin Grey
I like freckles. I like to connect the dots.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (ms2Wv)

253 no such thing as too much cheese...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)

Yeah, like a woman too pretty, a car too fast or having too much money.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (aOKtJ)

254 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


JackStraw has the best links.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (dMoB0)

255 Very minor thing in the grand scheme of things but I'm having another headache day (same as yesterday) - praying types please squeeze me in if possible

thanks
Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 11:50 AM (G546f)
---------

Heading to Mass right now and will offer it for you. Feel better!

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 11:59 AM (aXucN)

256 Pussy Galore?
Posted by: Avi


Yes. Yes she has.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:59 AM (fBape)

257 Of course Free Tibet. Prayers for your sis.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 11:59 AM (Y4EXg)

258 254 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


JackStraw has the best links.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (dMoB0)

Like a fine golf course.

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 11:59 AM (7HtZB)

259 The Who Dis lady can call an Orange Alert on me anytime.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 11:59 AM (NWiLs)

260 225 218 Trump on a tear.
Posted by: Sooner at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (Fs5vw)
---------

Where?
Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (G0vdT)
-----

Found it. Game over man, game over.

Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

261 Is Mark Zaid still fapping to Twilight Sparkle pr0n?

Is Eric the Fart still smelling up the place?

Has Schiff-4-brains' eyes popped out yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:00 PM (Dp5C+)

262 If I may ask for some prayers, my little sister (55) is going in for open heart surgery Friday. Mitral valve replacement. Thanks
Free Tibet
Posted by: free tibet at November 20, 2019 11:57 AM (jexFU)
---------

And added to my list!

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 12:00 PM (aXucN)

263 All I know is that 20 Republican Senators are definitely going to convict and remove Trump over this when impeachment sails through the house with dozens of Republicans voting in favor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison



Then I will update The List one last time, and go dark.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 12:00 PM (dMoB0)

264 Eric was me. I don't know where that came from.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 20, 2019 12:00 PM (Uu+Jp)

265 $7.4 billion in laundered money from Ukraine sent through a US financial company with ties to the Democrat Party.

$16.5 million to Hunter Biden.


This seems like a big fucking deal.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

266 "...suspicions of the legalization of $7.4 billion by
the "family" of ex-President Viktor Yanukovych through the American
investment fund Franklin Templeton Investments, which they said has ties
to the U.S. Democratic Party" Posted by: JackStraw


and no quid pro quo, just investigating an international crime syndicate.


(the article explains "legalizing" means "laundering", making the money appear to be legal)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (Cus5s)

267 249 My dog just slammed into my knee while I was shoveling snow. I twisted my ankle in the process. I'm hoping my ankle doesn't get sore.

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (Uu+Jp)

Free medical advice: Sink that entire leg into a snowbank for, oh, about 36 hours, to reduce the swelling. Don't worry if you lose feeling in that leg.

Posted by: Holiday Inn Express customer at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (AMIL/)

268 So nobody is paying the Clintons Foundation any more?

Wonder why not?

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (1XAal)

269 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


Jack, someone said you were looking for a link for what day the impeachment vote was supposed to be. Did you ever find it? Do we know for sure if it's going to be on Dec 13th?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (fBape)

270 Re: Quid pro quo and foreign leaders

Did anyone ever ask about the agreement involved in the unmarked billions Barry helpfully flew to Iran?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (aZuds)

271 >>$7.4 billion in laundered money from Ukraine sent through a US financial company with ties to the Democrat Party.



$16.5 million to Hunter Biden.





This seems like a big fucking deal.




WOW.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (bDqIh)

272 I would say "trapped in yarn" probably means
Christmas knitting in progress.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (JKNZq)

273 My dog just slammed into my knee while I was shoveling snow. I twisted
my ankle in the process. I'm hoping my ankle doesn't get sore.



Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM

---

Why are you shoveling snow? There isn't any more snow due to global warming.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:02 PM (JUOKG)

274 Good luck to MAE.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 20, 2019 12:02 PM (E+OcO)

275 162 The last Cumberbatch pic (drawing) - was he ever in a role like that?
Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019


*
*

Isn't that from Doctor Strange?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 12:02 PM (Ejm1K)

276 So nobody is paying the Clintons Foundation any more?

Wonder why not?

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (1XAal)

--

I bet it rhymes with kwid pro kwo.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:02 PM (aZuds)

277 >>Jack, someone said you were looking for a link for what day the impeachment vote was supposed to be. Did you ever find it? Do we know for sure if it's going to be on Dec 13th?

No. Best I can tell it was speculation from CTH.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:02 PM (ZLI7S)

278

I and a ton of others took an oath to protect and defend that has no expiration date.

I mean to fulfill that oath when the time comes.

All of you know we are living in the most exceptional country on this planet, populated by an extraordinary people.

We arrived here by virtue of a political system unique in history. Along the way we've overcome situations that have destroyed lesser systems.
The issue here is pretty simple--do we go forward being governed by our blueprint--the Constitution, or by a political system that will result in the dissolution of our nation?
Which is it, people?

Posted by: irongrampa at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (KATBx)

279 Today's 'For the Ettes'..... huh-uh, huh-uh, huh-uh, no, no, no, no. Not my kinda guy. I'm gonna have to hunt down some male dudes worthy of this category and email them to OM.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (JoUsr)

280 254 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


JackStraw has the best links.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (dMoB0)

Weed too...

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (cF8AT)

281 Sondland was PT's choice. Million dollar Republican contributor. But, he also supported Jeb first.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (ZZDMQ)

282 Vindman testified about it himself. The democrat
lawyer was going over his resume and asked how long he was incapacitated
after the IED attack. Vindman said he was returned to duty that
afternoon.





Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (U6f/q)

Thanks

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (LISuA)

283 Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (ZLI7S)


Again, it baffles me why the Democrats would want to concentrate attention on Ukraine of all places. All it does is reinforce (and the constant attention can't be helping them) the notion that Trump was right to ask them to look into corruption.

Impeach him on his diet Coke consumption would make more sense then going anywhere near Ukraine.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (hLRSq)

284 Jeb!



He lost

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (1XAal)

285 https://tinyurl.com/snm7gbb



Oh, man...you gotta see this. Co!d Fury eviscerates Bill Maher.


Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (fE1wp)

286 Honor Blackman? Looks like her.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (j3npP)

287 OK, so what is going on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (cEsBM)

288 No way in hell Trump didn't set this timing up.

Ukraine didn't just decide to announce these investigation today for no reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (ZLI7S)

289 Read their own description of what they do and tell me that's not grooming children to not resist being molested.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 11:54 AM (2cwOe)

Not one of those freaks should be anywhere near kids. What kid of mom hands her kid off to one of these creeps?

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (U7k5w)

290 $7.4 billion in laundered money from Ukraine sent through a US financial company with ties to the Democrat Party.

$16.5 million to Hunter Biden.

--

Hunter Biden's guy that drove him to the bank once in 2015 is F*CKED.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (aZuds)

291 Weed too...
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (cF8AT)

Pffft. Shitty Rhode Island ditch weed.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (Boy/L)

292 I get to have surgery right before Christmas.

They need to go back into my abdomen following a cancer-related surgery and re-sew together some abdominal muscles that have separated.

W00t!

Posted by: bonhomme at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (9t0Zz)

293 All I know is that 20 Republican Senators are definitely going to convict and remove Trump over this when impeachment sails through the house with dozens of Republicans voting in favor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

___________

Are you being facetious or do you really believe that?

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (sjTfF)

294 if you had my meatball Lasagna

you would want no other

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (rpxSz)

295 Wanda Wanda Wanda who?

Who?

Who wrote the Book of Love?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (m45I2)

296 212
"Did he in fact have a very minor injury and return immediately to duty?"



He was probably wounded by a "shell fragment", from the poached egg he had for breakfast.



Posted by: Toad-O at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (ACwLk)

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The first or the 34th one?

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (D2AQ1)

297 So no fart jokes today?

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (1XAal)

298 So how much of that Ukrainian money got laundered through Vindaloumon's family before hitting his bank account?

Obviously enough to get him a membership at the Desert Lovers Club.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (Dp5C+)

299 @196

Because at the end of the day, Sodenland testified in the secret star chamber and today that, with regards to a QPQ, Trump told him I want nothing.


So you have the President of The US saying there was no QPQ.

You have the President of The Ukraine saying there was no QPQ.


And finally you have the US ambassador to the Ukraine saying the President of the US said there was no QPQ.


They have nothing.

In fact they have less than nothing.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (lgAXm)

300 211 Wanda Ventham from "UFO." Young teenage JJ sez "would hit!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

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Young TP would have also but, similar to a dog chasing a car, at that age, would we even have known what to do with her once we caught her? lol
Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019


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I'm sure she could have tutored you to a high level of skill.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (Ejm1K)

301 293 All I know is that 20 Republican Senators are definitely going to convict and remove Trump over this when impeachment sails through the house with dozens of Republicans voting in favor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

___________

Are you being facetious or do you really believe that?
Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (sjTfF)

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Facetious.

I've never believed impeachment was even going to get a floor vote, much less get a conviction in the Senate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (q80AH)

302 If Wanda Ventham married Howard Hughes, divorce him and married Henry Kissinger she'd be Wanda Hughes Kissinger now.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (m45I2)

303 Thank you all!

Posted by: free tibet at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (jexFU)

304 Free medical advice: Sink that entire leg into a
snowbank for, oh, about 36 hours, to reduce the swelling. Don't worry
if you lose feeling in that leg.

Posted by: Holiday Inn Express customer at November 20, 2019 12:01 PM (AMIL/)

Then slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (gmo/4)

305 http://bit.ly/2s2SfkG
********
Huckabee: Democrats' Trump impeachment theatrics a sign of their growing desperation - Katrina Pierson

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

306 Calling this disaster a clown show makes light of the fact our government is trying to bring down a legit elected president. They are enemies of the country, not clowns.

Posted by: abbynormal at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (I849g)

307 Vindman testified about it himself. The democrat

lawyer was going over his resume and asked how long he was incapacitated

after the IED attack. Vindman said he was returned to duty that

afternoon.









Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (U6f/q)

Thanks


Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM

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It appears he is another john "I got shot three times in Vietnam" kerry.


A bandaid at the aid station and back to work.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (JUOKG)

308 Pull my finger

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (flINI)

309 Vindman said he was returned to duty that
afternoon.

****

The remainder of the douche's career in the army will be..problematic.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (LCzNi)

310 If you attack Gen Flynn, or allow him to be attacked, you are a traitor.

See how that works?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (I2/tG)

311 279 Today's 'For the Ettes'..... huh-uh, huh-uh, huh-uh, no, no, no, no. Not my kinda guy. I'm gonna have to hunt down some male dudes worthy of this category and email them to OM.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (JoUsr)

******
Preach!!! I have yet to see one that is good enough.

Posted by: overit at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (sI15f)

312 So no fart jokes today?
Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (1XAal)
********
We're all out of gas

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (BqBId)

313 It sure damn seems like it. Now the big question is, wall or helicopter?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:51 AM (9Om/r)

why not both? yes, both is good.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (8D42x)

314 7.4 billion?!?! WTF is going on. What about other countries to either Dems or Repubs?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (ngSZO)

315 What scares me and would scare any sane person is that, when this fails, no president can ever be impeached again.

And, Trump, having survived this, could, if he wanted to, do every evil thing they have accused him of or dreamed he would--and there's not one dammed thing they could do to stop him.

The only thing holding him back then would be us--and we will be out for blood.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (k81AA)

316 Why is Bearclaw still working at the White House? In civies no less.

Posted by: Dingbat at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (Qkbqn)

317 286 Honor Blackman? Looks like her.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2019


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Going by looks, Wanda could be her sister, but Honor had a harder, colder look by the time she appeared in The Avengers and in Goldfinger.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (Ejm1K)

318 "The son of Templeton's founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of President Obama's major campaign donors. Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund. It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama's national security advisor," Derkach said.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (ZLI7S)

319 Man, Jennifer Griffin screw the pooch on this tweet. She's been told over and over and over again that Starr was paraphrasing what SCHIFF was thinking. It wasn't STARR'S opinion...yet it's still up with NO correction and has been retweeted over 5k times....

@JenGriffinFNC

Ken Starr, lead prosecutor in Clinton impeachment hearings: "There is now proof that the President (Trump) committed the crime of bribery...This has been one of those bombshell days."

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (cF8AT)

320 It appears he is another john "I got shot three times in Vietnam" kerry.


A bandaid at the aid station and back to work.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:06 PM (JUOKG)

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Seen quite a few of those types in Iraq.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (RU4sa)

321 sondland reminds me of vindman...total control freaks/know it alls/their way or the highway types.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (dnjy6)

322 Because at the end of the day, Sodenland testified in the secret star chamber and today that, with regards to a QPQ, Trump told him I want nothing.


So you have the President of The US saying there was no QPQ.

You have the President of The Ukraine saying there was no QPQ.


And finally you have the US ambassador to the Ukraine saying the President of the US said there was no QPQ.


They have nothing.

In fact they have less than nothing.
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (lgAXm)
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I'm left wondering if this another case of projection on the part of the Dems.

They can't conceive that the Golden Scalp Weasel didn't do it because they do it all the time.

Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (G0vdT)

323 Would anyone buy into "Porn Star Story Hour"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

go on, i'm listening...

they could read Dear penthouse...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (8D42x)

324 I already miss LTC Bearclaw "Flounder" Vindaloo.

He was a great source of humor.

Also, lying under oath, ignoring his chain of command, sedition, and the plaintive cries of tens of thousands of hamburgers being stuffed down his muscular gullet.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (dMoB0)

325 288 No way in hell Trump didn't set this timing up.

Ukraine didn't just decide to announce these investigation today for no reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (ZLI7S)

I just got home

what investigations ?


Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (rpxSz)

326 By the way I believe there are plenty of Republicans who would love nothing more than to vote to impeach Trump.

They know they'll get roasted for it and possibly murdered (who knows but it's not out of the realm of possibility considering how crazy things are getting) so they'll go along to get along for now.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (j3npP)

327 Hunter Biden's guy that drove him to the bank once in 2015 is F*CKED.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (aZuds)
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lol exactly - poor bastard

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (Xvo1a)

328 Hope springs eternal.

Jussie Smollett Sues City Of Chicago For Malicious Prosecution

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (+y/Ru)

329 "They need to go back into my abdomen following a cancer-related surgery and re-sew together some abdominal muscles that have separated. "

My suturing is pretty fair, I use bourbon as an anesthetic and I work cheap.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (F73W5)

330
Why is Bearclaw still working at the White House? In civies no less.

Posted by: Dingbat at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (Qkbqn)


He probably shit his uniform yesterday.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (9Om/r)

331 323 Would anyone buy into "Porn Star Story Hour"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

go on, i'm listening...

they could read Dear penthouse...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019


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*

"Lucy Li Reads Fanny Hill"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (Ejm1K)

332 Most descriptive word ive heard to describe the impeachment show is flea circus.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (O7kBk)

333 I knew a guy who received a purple heart after he fell down a flight of stairs in a hospital in 'Nam while he was detoxing.

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (gmo/4)

334 >>I just got home

>>what investigations ?


Scroll. Ukrainian MPs are demanding investigation into money laundering with a US Financial company with ties to the Democrat Party and Hunter Biden apparently got 5 times the original amount.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (ZLI7S)

335 What about Avenatti bishes? He's going to take Trump down and run for President!

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All from C Block!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2019 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)

336 Jussie Smollett Sues City Of Chicago For Malicious Prosecution

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Damn shame I'm actually rooting for Chicago in this case.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 12:11 PM (RU4sa)

337 323
Would anyone buy into "Porn Star Story Hour"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (bDqIh)



go on, i'm listening...



they could read Dear penthouse...



Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (8D42x)
Horton hears a Ho?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2019 12:11 PM (N39Ws)

338 Is there anything else scheduled today, Nadler / Judiciary Committee?

Posted by: Alice McD at November 20, 2019 12:12 PM (E+yET)

339 279 Today's 'For the Ettes'..... huh-uh, huh-uh, huh-uh, no, no, no, no. Not my kinda guy. I'm gonna have to hunt down some male dudes worthy of this category and email them to OM.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (JoUsr)


Excellent! I am looking forward to your e-mail.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 12:12 PM (2cwOe)

340 Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (F73W5)

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Cool nic.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 12:12 PM (RU4sa)

341 Why is Bearclaw still working at the White House? In civies no less.

Posted by: Dingbat at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (Qkbqn)


He probably shit his uniform yesterday.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (9Om/r)

****

With any luck after this is over he'll be sent to a troop unit.
Ft Lewis maybe.
That would be fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 12:12 PM (LCzNi)

342 My impression of Sondland is that he's being honest, telling it as he sees it, like it or not. His attitude appears to be: If you call me as a witness, I'm going to give my honest take, whether it helps or hurts you. He's not putting up a foreign service or military service shield against any questions about his impressions, integrity, or biases.

The US would be in much better shape if everyone in politics, the judiciary, and the media played it that same way.

Could be wrong!

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 12:12 PM (AMIL/)

343 254 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm



Posted by: JackStraw

===
Odds of this showing up on the news media?

Less than ZERO.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 20, 2019 12:12 PM (pw+jk)

344 I knew a guy who received a purple heart after he fell down a flight of stairs in a hospital in 'Nam while he was detoxing.


Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 12:10 PM (gmo/4)

Unreal. My cousin had to get overrun twice to get his.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 12:13 PM (9Om/r)

345 100% snark-free, no BS, zero snide remark comment:

What's the most realistic scenario for all this illegal Ukraine stuff that's coming to light?

I'm going with some fundraising, possibly some additional taxes paid by the Bidens, and a letter to someone saying "tsk tsk."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:13 PM (aZuds)

346 Finally issued a correction:


@JenGriffinFNC 1 minute ago

Clarification: Starr was quoting Schiff in the first part of what he said below, but added that he would assume new articles of impeachment would now be drawn up, describing today's testimony as "bombshell."

After her initial tweet was retweeted over 5k times...

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:13 PM (cF8AT)

347 "Vindman testified about it himself. The democrat lawyer was going over
his resume and asked how long he was incapacitated after the IED attack.
Vindman said he was returned to duty that afternoon."
So a Frank Burns purple heart.

Posted by: Ron Swansons Beard swill at November 20, 2019 12:13 PM (HKQ4I)

348 >>I knew a guy who received a purple heart after he fell down a flight of stairs in a hospital in 'Nam while he was detoxing.


Old Boss got one playing volleyball.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:14 PM (yDWtO)

349 Drag queens are just an absolute bizarre idea that comes from where, I don't know. Lesbian librarians?
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (v2Axo)


Years ago, I read a book called Literature Lost about the decline of literature and English teaching in high school and college. His theory was (in addition to just stupid, lazy teachers) that teachers just got bored teaching the same things, even if those things were effective. So they played with lit classes in cereal box writing or sight reading or whatever in an attempt to do something new and different.

It wouldn't surprise me if that were the case with the drag queen story hours -- it's different, it's "edgy," it gives bored and stupid librarians something to chatter about.

Posted by: sunny-dee at November 20, 2019 12:14 PM (Z2HD7)

350 254 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


JackStraw has the best links.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (dMoB0)

And primo weed. Well, so I hear.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 12:14 PM (NWiLs)

351 Today's 'For the Ettes'..... huh-uh, huh-uh, huh-uh, no, no, no, no. Not my kinda guy. I'm gonna have to hunt down some male dudes worthy of this category and email them to OM.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (JoUsr)

***

But...but...you promised not to show anyone else my pictures.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 12:14 PM (LCzNi)

352 Oh, Muldoon! That's truly awful. And really funny.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 12:14 PM (fE1wp)

353 Today's 'For the Ettes'..... huh-uh, huh-uh, huh-uh, no, no, no, no. Not my kinda guy. I'm gonna have to hunt down some male dudes worthy of this category and email them to OM.

--

Preach!!! I have yet to see one that is good enough.

--

Ha. And here we see one difference between men and women.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:14 PM (aZuds)

354 Here's the video from Trump reading Sondland's testimony on his way to Marine 1...


https://tinyurl.com/u9yy454

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:15 PM (cF8AT)

355 So no fart jokes today?
Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (1XAal)
********
We're all out of gas
Posted by: Deep State


******

Yesterday merely served to deflate us.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 12:15 PM (m45I2)

356 Trump is on the warpath.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 12:15 PM (RU4sa)

357 OT: I didn't get a chance to send this into AoSHQ prayer chain because I was traveling. My mom is going in for heart valve surgery this afternoon at UW Med. just praying everything goes well for her and glad I was able to be present with my dad during her surgery.

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:15 PM (V40A9)

358 My suturing is pretty fair, I use bourbon as an anesthetic and I work cheap.

I'll give you three chickens and one small pig with a gimpy leg.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (9t0Zz)

359 >>"The son of Templeton's founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of President Obama's major campaign donors. Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund. It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama's national security advisor," Derkach said.


That's gonna leave an indelible mark on Obama's vaunted legacy.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (yDWtO)

360 Vindman testified about it himself. The democrat

lawyer was going over his resume and asked how long he was incapacitated

after the IED attack. Vindman said he was returned to duty that

afternoon.


John Kerry signed the back of his Purple Heart.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (88+cf)

361 Vindman was a fobbit.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (F73W5)

362 342 Gref

Sondland is very rich. I imagine the only thing that would concern him would be a railroading via a process crime, like Stone received. I think that's why he's trying to blur all the lines.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (ZZDMQ)

363 >>My suturing is pretty fair


What you miss I can get closed using Crazy Glue.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (yDWtO)

364 JackStraw has the best links.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 11:58 AM (dMoB0)

Weed too...

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (cF8AT)

well, as Willow's dealer, he'd have too...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (8D42x)

365 Drag queens are just an absolute bizarre idea that comes from where, I don't know. Lesbian librarians?

--

It comes from the same place blackface comes from.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:17 PM (aZuds)

366 361 Vindman was a fobbit.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (F73W5)

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Just like Buttplug was.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 12:17 PM (RU4sa)

367 Unreal. My cousin had to get overrun twice to get his.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 12:13 PM (9Om/r)

I hear you brother. My uncle's ship was torpedoed and sunk then later he was stationed on Stirling Island in the Solomons and wounded there too. Only received one award.

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 12:17 PM (gmo/4)

368 We arrived here by virtue of a political system unique in history. Along the way we've overcome situations that have destroyed lesser systems.
The issue here is pretty simple--do we go forward being governed by our blueprint--the Constitution, or by a political system that will result in the dissolution of our nation?
Which is it, people?
Posted by: irongrampa at November 20, 2019 12:03 PM (KATBx)

Agree totally. How do we organize?

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 12:17 PM (aOKtJ)

369 OT: I didn't get a chance to send this into AoSHQ prayer chain because I was traveling. My mom is going in for heart valve surgery this afternoon at UW Med. just praying everything goes well for her and glad I was able to be present with my dad during her surgery.

More prayers up!

Posted by: free tibet at November 20, 2019 12:18 PM (jexFU)

370 Fobbit:


http://www.armyreal.com/blog/item/2780

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 12:18 PM (RU4sa)

371 The Dem post hearings talking point will be "We have heard from multiple direct witnesses who all corroborated the whistleblower claims." At least according to what I read in the comment section of the Hill.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2019 12:19 PM (dNzKv)

372 @368

By encrypted Carrier pigeon, secret-cyper and drop boxes.


The enemy literally controls all lines of communication even HAM radio.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (lgAXm)

373 Finally read the content and it's a good thing, too. That was an outstanding opener, OM. I would say, though, that this tree of poisoned fruit took root long before Trump's election.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (fE1wp)

374 So no fart jokes today?
Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:05 PM (1XAal)
********
We're all out of gas
Posted by: Deep State


******

Yesterday merely served to deflate us.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 12:15 PM (m45I2)

***

There is a lot of inflatulation with farts here.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (LCzNi)

375 The leftards are amazing in their blind single mindedness. Their assault on Trump is like a beaver trying to gnaw down a steel light pole. Never any progress save tooth wear, but never wavering in their mindlessness.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (O7kBk)

376 Quilters Irish Death

Prayers for your Mom

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (6XlcD)

377 If it's going to go hot, then let it be soon. Yeah, yeah, keyboard commando and all that shit but I don't really give a fuck. If it's going to get nasty then I at least want it to be while I'm still semi-useful.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (NWiLs)

378 What's the most realistic scenario for all this illegal Ukraine stuff that's coming to light?

I'm going with some fundraising, possibly some additional taxes paid by the Bidens, and a letter to someone saying "tsk tsk."
Posted by: Moron Robbie

________________

The biggest thing to come out will be it probably took out Joe Biden, the one Democrat that I think had a good shot beating Trump.

But if I'm being honest, I do think Trump and/or people in Trump's Administration badly handled this and did some stupid things. But because Democrats went with impeachment, it probably just helps Trump with his base in 2020.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (sjTfF)

379 zerohedge:
FBI HAS ASKED TO INTERVIEW UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

380 Walked past the monitors at work. All had CNN on. CNN is garbage.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (vN4+Q)

381 362 342 Gref

Sondland is very rich. I imagine the only thing that would concern him would be a railroading via a process crime, like Stone received. I think that's why he's trying to blur all the lines.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (ZZDMQ)


Yeah, he and Trump have F-- You money. Makes a difference. He is trying to make himself look good as possible, no doubt about it, for future personal and business reasons. But I don't think he's shading things a lot.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (AMIL/)

382 Ha. I just saw Ace's mystery click on the sidebar.

I'm not clicking, but Love and Rockets.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (aZuds)

383 Only the House, I believe, can vote him out( like they did with Jim Traficant (D) when he was sentenced to prison. Schiff is from CA, don't know if they have recall laws there for Federal representatives.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:48 AM (v2Axo)

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Recall of a Congress Critter by the states, or people of the state is not in the US Constitution. Therefore it is unconstitutional and not allowed.

We need a Constitutional Amendment for that and for term limits too.

Posted by: rd at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (+0uDE)

384 >>FBI HAS ASKED TO INTERVIEW UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER

Sounds like Trump has had enough of this clown show.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

385 More prayers up!
Posted by: free tibet at November 20, 2019 12:18 PM (jexFU)

Sometimes these threads are a little hard to figure out if you haven't read the entire thing. Is it your mother that is having heart valve surgery or someone else whom you will be praying for?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (WI7YS)

386 Agree totally. How do we organize?

Posted by: clutch


Very carefully.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (dMoB0)

387 Annie, thank you for the prayer list.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (fE1wp)

388 I didn't get a chance to send this into AoSHQ prayer chain because I was traveling. My mom is going in for heart valve surgery this afternoon at UW Med. just praying everything goes well for her and glad I was able to be present with my dad during her surgery.

More prayers up!
Posted by: free tibet at November 20, 2019 12:18 PM (jexFU)

****

Prayers up.
Im a Coug but will admit the UW does medicine well.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (LCzNi)

389 I'm not clicking, but Love and Rockets.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (aZuds)

Crappy L & R song though. They had much better ones.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (1XNk8)

390 If it's going to go hot, then let it be soon. Yeah, yeah, keyboard commando and all that shit but I don't really give a fuck. If it's going to get nasty then I at least want it to be while I'm still semi-useful.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 12:20 PM (NWiLs)

i'm thinking things might get sporty here in VA pretty quickly if SB16 passes next year.

THAT could be the spark that sets it all off.

it'd be sort of fitting too...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (8D42x)

391 zerohedge:
FBI HAS ASKED TO INTERVIEW UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER
Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:21 PM (3aI0K)
+++++++++++
Why didn't they finish the headline?
... TO ENSURE HE IS ADEQUATELY COVERED AND TO IMMUNIZE HIM FROM PROSECUTION OR DIFFICULT QUESTIONING

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (I2dne)

392 Crappy L & R song though. They had much better ones.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (1XNk

--

Definitely. That one probably helped pay the bills for the others, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:23 PM (aZuds)

393 384 >>FBI HAS ASKED TO INTERVIEW UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER 

Sounds like Trump has had enough of this clown show.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (ZLI7S

Wonder if they are planning a visit with Durham.

Posted by: tofer732 at November 20, 2019 12:24 PM (gAZx+)

394
Jussie Smollett Sues City Of Chicago For Malicious Prosecution
---
Damn shame I'm actually rooting for Chicago in this case.
Posted by: SMH


Can they both lose?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

395 384

Wonder if FBI is investigating the GoFundMe that WB received?

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 12:24 PM (ZZDMQ)

396 But if I'm being honest, I do think Trump and/or people in Trump's Administration badly handled this and did some stupid things.


But because Democrats went with impeachment, it probably just helps Trump with his base in 2020.
Posted by: Blago



Trump and the repubs couldn't stop this shitshow in the House. No matter how they handled anything.

This started they day he was sworn in and much likey way earlier.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (fBape)

397
"Oh, and Trump should be impeached for undermining long-standing foreign policy put in place by, I don't know, career diplomats. That's a good one.

Long standing arrangements that enriched them, hmmm is that enoulements or bribery

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (TT5JW)

398 394
Jussie Smollett Sues City Of Chicago For Malicious Prosecution
---
Damn shame I'm actually rooting for Chicago in this case.
Posted by: SMH

Can they both lose?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

This is definitely a "rooting for heavy casualties" situation.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (NWiLs)

399
Sometimes these threads are a little hard to figure out if you haven't read the entire thing. Is it your mother that is having heart valve surgery or someone else whom you will be praying for?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (WI7YS)

Fen, sorry I ramble ( it's the ADD). My mom is having a TAVR procedure today. Artificial valve replacement. And thank you for all the prayers. Gray box friends are awesome people.

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (V40A9)

400 Would anyone buy into "Porn Star Story Hour"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

go on, i'm listening...

they could read Dear penthouse...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:09 PM (8D42x)
Horton hears a Ho?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2019 12:11 PM (N39Ws)

just beware of green eggs and ham...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (8D42x)

401 Lasagna is good eats.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (v2ozf)

402 I had to turn off Fox News as their WH reporter could not stop dancing on the lawn that Sondland said there was a quid pro quo about Ukraine getting a meeting at the WH.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (v2Axo)

403 If it's going to go hot, then let it be soon. Yeah, yeah, keyboard commando and all that shit but I don't really give a fuck. If it's going to get nasty then I at least want it to be while I'm still semi-useful.
Posted by: Insomniac


Amen. Now. Not in 10 when I'm too old.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (fBape)

404 Preach!!! I have yet to see one that is good enough.

Posted by: overit at November 20, 2019 12:07 PM (sI15f)


Who do you like?

The thing is, I just can't keep doing Cary Grant week after week.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 12:26 PM (2cwOe)

405 SMH and other military types will appreciate this.

Bill Mauldin when he was out-processing to finally go home from Italy in WWII. "Downy-cheeked fugitive from a junior internship" giving him an interview asking about how he got a Purple Heart. LT asks if he had regained full use of his arm and hand.

Mauldin goes "Huh?"
LT, "It says here gunshot wound right shoulder."
Mauldin, "Oh, no I never lost use of my arm or shoulder."

Goes on about hospitalization and scar. Mauldin says no to either. Now the LT is shocked that he got a Purple Heart.

So another voice in the line pipes up after losing his temper, a guy who has obviously been stitched together after getting shot in the gut. "Christ lieutenant, he didn't make the rules! We take what we are given and do what we're told!"

Excerpted from the last pages of The Brass Ring*

*Also in this last chapter Bill had gained a beautiful German Shepard from a surrendering SS officer. The pooch was named Anna. A female State Department officer promised Bill to ship the dog home for him. He never heard from her again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:26 PM (Dp5C+)

406
7.4 billion?!?! WTF is going on.

Tip of the f'ing iceberg. I wonder if people understand how much of this goes to people like George Soros.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2019 12:26 PM (r+sAi)

407 Darnitall, missed the Art Thread again! Interesting piece and really enjoyed the comments.


Youngest submitted her resignation yesterday to accept another job. Her old boss almost cried. Lots more money and a chance to do the muddy boots engineering, so she really wanted to take the new job. Her next week and a half will be tough as she works out her notice.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 20, 2019 12:26 PM (MIKMs)

408 free Tibet, I could've sworn you said earlier it was Friday. Thanks for more current.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 12:26 PM (fE1wp)

409 If you attack Lt Col Vindman, or allow him to be attacked, you are a traitor.
- Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 19, 2019



This is why twitface is such a bad thing. To say something like this face to face gets one a beating. Online, meh.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:27 PM (v2ozf)

410 Trump and the repubs couldn't stop this shitshow in the House. No matter how they handled anything.

This started they day he was sworn in and much likey way earlier.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (fBape)
+++++++++++++
I agree on Trump. I do not agree on the Republicans.

Had Ryan and his caucus spent two years legislating in accordance with the will of their constituents and ideally in a way that furthered the president's agenda instead of spending that time impeding progress and playing little games in back rooms, the Dems wouldn't hold the house and all of the relevant committees.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:27 PM (I2dne)

411 "Kundalini Express" was a great jam.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 12:27 PM (1XNk8)

412 Because seriously, call me a traitor to my face and you can expect to be picking teeth out of your stool.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:27 PM (v2ozf)

413 How.did.they change the definition of a whistle blower without going thru the OMB process?

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2019 12:27 PM (TT5JW)

414 Well I'm in if things get sporty. But not on 11/27. IFC is doing a Monty Python marathon...

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (gmo/4)

415 384 >>FBI HAS ASKED TO INTERVIEW UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER

Sounds like Trump has had enough of this clown show.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)


Really? Well, that sounds to me like someone doesn't care if Adam Schiff starts yelling about witness tampering or obstruction of justice at all.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (hLRSq)

416 >>Crappy L & R song though. They had much better ones.


Sure. But Earth, Sun Moon was a great LP. Daniel Ash gettin all acoustic and shit. I like it.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (yDWtO)

417 Lasagna is the worst kind of pasta. Fite me.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously


Bring it two-legs!

Posted by: Garfiled at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (WA3cK)

418 >>The thing is, I just can't keep doing Cary Grant week after week.

Did you get my suggestions, OM?
I can send more. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (bDqIh)

419 Trump and the repubs couldn't stop this shitshow in the House. No matter how they handled anything.

This started they day he was sworn in and much likey way earlier.
Posted by: rickb223

_____________

I think Trump asking to investigate Hunter Biden on a phone call with Ukraine was stupid. Not illegal or impeachable, just stupid, especially after the whole Russia nonsense.

I still want him as President, just think it was an unforced error and he should have known better.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (sjTfF)

420 i'm thinking things might get sporty here in VA pretty quickly if SB16 passes next year.

THAT could be the spark that sets it all off.

it'd be sort of fitting too...
Posted by: SturmToddler


Who will command the Army of NoVa?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:29 PM (fBape)

421 >> Lasagna is good eats.


Better the next day, though.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:29 PM (yDWtO)

422 I still want him as President, just think it was an unforced error and he should have known better.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (sjTfF)
++++++++++++++
Or it was a setup (him setting up them).

I have no idea what to believe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:29 PM (I2dne)

423 Didn't they have another one that would probably be considered a hit? I can't think of it, but it came later. Very risque.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:30 PM (aZuds)

424 Propaganda Press is on overdrive today, making shit up as the Shiffty case falls completely apart.

Everything you hear should be filtered by the seek-more-sources rule.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:30 PM (LISuA)

425 So Alive?

Ball of Confusion?

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:30 PM (yDWtO)

426 Okay, I cheated. So Alive.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:30 PM (aZuds)

427 FBI HAS ASKED TO INTERVIEW UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER


The Dems and Big Media will immediately change their characterization of the FBI from Apolitical Defenders of the Constitution and Law and Order Against the Dastardly Trump and His Lackey AG Barr, to Politicallly-Motivated, Lawless Tools of the Dastardly Trump and His Lackey AG Barr.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (AMIL/)

428 Haunted

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (1XNk8)

429 415 Mikey

That's why I think the FBI visit is bc of the complaint that Ciaramella received GFM money, which would be illegal.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (ZZDMQ)

430 >> Lasagna is good eats.


Better the next day, though.



I think that is true of all pasta, save pizza. Really, any saucey food can benefit from sitting around.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (v2ozf)

431 (off to hooktube to listen to L&R and J&M Chain, possibly the Fleshtones while I'm there)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (aZuds)

432 i'm thinking things might get sporty here in VA pretty quickly if SB16 passes next year.

Looking at this quickly, is this mostly the ten round magazine limit and adding the 12 round semi-automatic shotgun to the "assault-weapon" category?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (9t0Zz)

433 i'm thinking things might get sporty here in VA pretty quickly if SB16 passes next year.

THAT could be the spark that sets it all off.

it'd be sort of fitting too...
Posted by: SturmToddler


Who will command the Army of NoVa?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:29 PM (fBape)

iono if Lee has any descendants in the army.

or if there's any loyalty to the state vs. the fed as there used to be.

maybe it'll be some Patrick henry type.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (8D42x)

434 Benedict Cumberbatch and his mom, Bond girl Wanda Ventham!


That's his mom? Damm the mailman must have been butt-ugly.

*paging Mr. Katsh$t*

Posted by: Paladin at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (WA3cK)

435 420 i'm thinking things might get sporty here in VA pretty quickly if SB16 passes next year.

THAT could be the spark that sets it all off.

it'd be sort of fitting too...
Posted by: SturmToddler


Who will command the Army of NoVa?
Posted by: rickb223



MS-13

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (vN4+Q)

436 Since this is the Democrats fourth try at impeachment and failing, time to quote Wellington at Waterloo?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (Dp5C+)

437 That lasagna looks good, but if you want a less cheesy/more meaty version, then make the Ree Drummond/The Pioneer Woman blog's lasagna.
YUM!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (bDqIh)

438
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (V40A9)

You weren't rambling. I just didn't see the initial post, so I wasn't sure whose mother it was. God knows whose mother it is, but I like to connect people with the people they "belong" to.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (WI7YS)

439 With any luck after this is over he'll be sent to a troop unit.
Ft Lewis maybe.
That would be fun.[i/]
.
How about NSA liaison to McMurdo Station?
.

Posted by: FireNWater at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (S4rpa)

440 Death!
Death by bunga bunga!

Posted by: Yo! at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (1XAal)

441 I think Trump asking to investigate Hunter Biden on a phone call with Ukraine was stupid.
He didn't exactly do that, but I think it is his DUTY to investigate this and do it jointly with the Ukrainians and if they won't help then withhold aid. A quid pro quo if you will.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (r+sAi)

442 >>MS-13
And CAIR

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (bDqIh)

443 "oblivious to the damage they're causing our political institutions and the rule of law."

This is a feature, destroying our institutions is their default setting and has been for over 80 years. I wonder if destroying the political institutions is a primary goal so as to replace them with something fascist/socialist.

Posted by: American at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (An/EU)

444 Jennifer Griffin of FNC was just called out for making up a story. She then issued a "clarification", changing the story entirely. Thanks Fox. You used to have a legitimate reporter at the Pentagon but, now, you have....Jennifer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (LISuA)

445 Uh, oh. . . .

Posted by: FireNWater at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (S4rpa)

446 Ha. There was a link to Information Society's "Pure Energy" on the So Alive page.

Right down the f*cking rabbithole.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (aZuds)

447 'Actually made me LOL'! CNN's Don Lemon saying he's 'not some partisan liberal Democrat' sends heads crashing to desks

-
Good to know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (+y/Ru)

448 Well with FBI wanting to Interview Eric Ciaramella there is going to be massive goalposts moving here today

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (BqBId)

449 My question is why the fucking fuck did Nunes call this moron to testify? Sounds like all he's doing is muddying the waters.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:49 AM (DU2N9)

Maybe to get it on record what worthless fucking dillweeds these Obama holdovers are?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (/sgva)

450 I think Trump asking to investigate Hunter Biden on a phone call with Ukraine was stupid.
He
didn't exactly do that, but I think it is his DUTY to investigate this
and do it jointly with the Ukrainians and if they won't help then
withhold aid. A quid pro quo if you will.





Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM


---

Actually he is required to ask them for help in potential criminal stuff. We have a treaty with Ukraine that spells it out.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (JUOKG)

451 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning

Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)

452
If it's going to go hot, then let it be soon. Yeah, yeah, keyboard commando and all that shit but I don't really give a fuck. If it's going to get nasty then I at least want it to be while I'm still semi-useful.

Posted by: Insomniac


If the Dims win in 2020, it'll get hot simply because they'll crash the economy so hard it'll pop out in China.

And then, there's their brilliant idea to seize all 401K, etc for "fairness", which they wanted since the first weeks of Oblabla, so that's coming.

Between those two things, there will be a lot of people looking for them to...uh...take responsibility.

They won't want that. It'll probably split the military and then it is on.

Sad.

But that appears what they want.

If Trump wins, they'll still try to wreck the economy.

Interesting times ahead becuz the Dims decided they were going to become an

Insane Kamikaze Communist Death Cult.

Only massive defeat at the polls might...might bring them back to reality.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (9X624)

453 This is a feature, destroying our institutions is their default setting and has been for over 80 years. I wonder if destroying the political institutions is a primary goal so as to replace them with something fascist/socialist.
Posted by: American at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (An/EU)
+++++++++
Done.

They've been hollowing out the institutions (the executive office, the congress, etc.) and replacing them with parallel constructions comprised of technocrat grifters.

They think they're far enough along to accomplish the cutover now. We will see if they're right. I think they're a touch too early.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2dne)

454 i'm thinking things might get sporty here in VA pretty quickly if SB16 passes next year.

Looking at this quickly, is this mostly the ten round magazine limit and adding the 12 round semi-automatic shotgun to the "assault-weapon" category?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (9t0Zz)

it also makes it a class 6 felony to posses an "assault weapon" as defined.

and any long gun that has a detachable mag and any number of common attachments qualifies.

or a shotgun that holds more than 7 rounds.

and ANY semi auto pistol since the magazine can be any size...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (8D42x)

455 You weren't rambling. I just didn't see the initial post, so I wasn't sure whose mother it was. God knows whose mother it is, but I like to connect people with the people they "belong" to.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (WI7YS)

Thank you so very much Fen.

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (V40A9)

456 >> I think Trump asking to investigate Hunter Biden on a phone call with Ukraine was stupid.


He didn't, really.
He asked for an investigation into Ukraine's involvement in the 2016 election.

The Biden thing is/was something that was on the margins of that investigation. The fact that he pointed that out is meaningless.
There was NO detail in the conversation.
Merely a mention of the Biden / Biden's Son thing, in passing.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (yDWtO)

457

Ace must be captivated by the "hearings."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (vEIlU)

458 Blago disagree. We have a signed agreement with Ukraine that each country will assist the other in investigating corruption. When Biden announced his candidacy, he started bragging about his foreign policy experience and the video of him bragging about demanding Ukraine fire a prosecutor investigating Burisma or no money started being shown everywhere. Peter Sweitzers book was out about Hunter. Was Trump just supposed to ignore it?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (v2Axo)

459 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)
+++++++++++
Would be a disappointment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2dne)

460 Biden wasn't a political opponent when these calls were made. He was a retired politician. He had already passed on his best chance to run in 2016. He's old and not in the best health. I think most people assumed he was done.

I can only think that the Left is trying to establish that you can't investigate any democrat any time if you are a Republican.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (v2ozf)

461 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)
+++++++++++
Would be a disappointment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Supposedly to run for Senate.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (ob5xJ)

462 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)
+++++++++++
Would be a disappointment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2dne)


that would suk

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (vEIlU)

463 The Purple Heart should be very special and the the requirements should be clear. I think overall that is still the case as I have seen many decorated Generals without a Purple Heart. I am not saying the shady stuff did not happen over the decades and wars, but I think they may be overstated at times for whatever reason.

It is true that military award requirements seem to differ by war, era, and even service. At Gettysburg, in three days, 64 people earned the Medal of Honor. No one doubts the sacrifices there, but we can go many wars without that many awarded.

I am not saying bad purple hearts have not been issued, they likely were. But I am saying most deserved it and the medal should never be diminished in any way. Many had their physical lives changed forever for that piece of ribbon.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (n13/j)

464 >>Biden wasn't a political opponent when these calls were made. He was a retired politician.


Yep.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (yDWtO)

465 451 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)

Interesting......

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (ngSZO)

466 Would be a disappointment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2dne)

Definitely.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (1XNk8)

467 Drag queens are just an absolute bizarre idea that comes from where, I don't know. Lesbian librarians?
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:52 AM (v2Axo)

Another manifestation of Big Anus.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (/sgva)

468
Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
========

They said that last month too, in connection with the open Senate seat. Is that the plan?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (LISuA)

469 Not sure if it's her, but it looks like Pussy Galore
Aaaa the 80's living in San Diego .... good times, good times.

Posted by: Paladin at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (WA3cK)

470 he needs to be careful here, and begin answering, "i don't recall" more, because he clearly doesn't recall every scenario the lawyer is trying to fuck him up with.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (dnjy6)

471 You know what else this impeachment farce is doing?

It's taking the focus off the disastrous dem presidential campaign candidates.

Posted by: Sooner at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (Fs5vw)

472 402 I had to turn off Fox News as their WH reporter could not stop dancing on the lawn that Sondland said there was a quid pro quo about Ukraine getting a meeting at the WH.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (v2Axo)

It's like we're watching two different hearings!

https://tinyurl.com/suzb6xp

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (cF8AT)

473 So Ken Starr says this is a bombshell testimony and Trump is guilty of impeachable offense of bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (6XlcD)

474 Uh, oh. . . .

Posted by: FireNWater at November 20, 2019 12:33 PM (S4rpa)

saved by pixy...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (8D42x)

475 Yikes, no. I hope Pompeo is staying.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 12:38 PM (a0IVu)

476 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)
+++++++++++
Would be a disappointment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

____________

If that's true, that's REALLY bad.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:38 PM (sjTfF)

477 But RuPaul has become an enemy of the Alphabetsexual variations crowd.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:38 PM (Dp5C+)

478 Precipitation!
It was getting so bad I was worried about my skin splitting wide open from my nose to me groin.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 12:39 PM (Fxgkp)

479 473
So Ken Starr says this is a bombshell testimony and Trump is guilty of impeachable offense of bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (6XlcD)

No he didn't, he was quoting Schiff.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 12:39 PM (CQ3Qb)

480 476 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)
+++++++++++

Rats deserting a "potential" sinking ship in their eyes?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:39 PM (6XlcD)

481 Ouch! Pence's aide just tweeted that the conversation that sondland claimed he had with him never took place.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:39 PM (JUOKG)

482 >>Ken Starr says this is a bombshell testimony and Trump is guilty of impeachable offense of bribery


And Ken Star should be in a lot of hot water for his time at Baylor, no?

Seems to me like he looked the other way while his Football Coaches were burying rape/assualt cases.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:39 PM (yDWtO)

483
No he didn't, he was quoting Schiff

Are you sure?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:39 PM (6XlcD)

484 So Ken Starr says this is a bombshell testimony and Trump is guilty of impeachable offense of bribery
==========

He didn't say that Donna, he literally quoted Adam Schiff as saying that Trump is guilty of impeachable bribery and then said that's what the Democrats will write into an impeachment count.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (LISuA)

485 Frankly, I would like to see Gabbard run for Senate after her POTUS run. Someone has to take out Crazy Lazy Maisie and she would be a reasonable (for some values of (D) reasonable) representative.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (MIKMs)

486 Joey Bidet is a grifter who pretends to be an elected official.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (Dp5C+)

487

remember ACE?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (oIPis)

488 {i}Nah man.

Hungry Man.

Comes with carrots and an apple dessert thing.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 11:41 AM (88+cf)





Also, when you're done the aluminum tray can be molded into fashionable headgear.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2019 11:47 AM (XVuno)

Funny radio bit from a few years back, a local/regional comedienne who appeared weekly around here. Southern trailer-park schtick...

My daughter-in-law is such a little fool, but she just wouldn't quit, said she was gonna do Thanksgiving dinner this year and that was that. Well, she did and you know what she came up with? Twelve Hungry Man turkey dinners, that's what!

Can you believe that?! I mean, don't she know people are gonna want seconds?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (YqED9)

489 If running for President as a Democrat

gives you immunity from criminal investigations

Then Avenatti's political aspirations become understandable

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (rpxSz)

490 Italican fail...

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (YqED9)

491

IF only we had someone who could sense noods....

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (oIPis)

492
He didn't say that Donna, he literally quoted Adam Schiff as saying that Trump is guilty of impeachable bribery and then said that's what the Democrats will write into an impeachment count.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at

Thank you... I thought that couldn't be right

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (6XlcD)

493 remember ACE?


Short mumbling hairy fellow? I think I recall him.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (v2ozf)

494 >>remember ACE?


That guy on the Imported Scooter?

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (yDWtO)

495 So Ken Starr says this is a bombshell testimony and Trump is guilty of impeachable offense of bribery
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (6XlcD)
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Okay. Blow it up an impeach him, then. It's always a solid political move to impeach a guy with 50% popularity and whose party has a very hard map in the upcoming senate election.

If this "bribery" then I'm the queen of England. gimmie a freaking break. Biden, Romney and Lord knows how many others were raking off billions from foreign lands in a convoluted game of influence, yet walk.

If Trump committed bribery, and I don't think he did, then pursuing this while ignoring the rest is exactly the kind of corruption that leads to seriously negative consequences for everyone.

Do it. Pull the damn trigger. Let's finally find out who's right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (I2dne)

496 Trump does need loyal men in the Senate.

I hope Pompeo has a good replacement lined upm

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (28QhM)

497 They think they're far enough along to accomplish the cutover now. We will see if they're right. I think they're a touch too early.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2dne)

The Pelosi/Hillary wing knows that it's too early. They knew they'd never see the Progressive Utopia in their lifetimes, so they were angling for a statue in a prominent place. It's the only thing like immortality in their godless worldview.

The young and stupid are close enough that they can smell it, and their hunger has overridden their senses. They're throwing away a hundred years of hard work and infiltration by jumping the gun.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (J+mig)

498 Donna, go read Sean Davis' twitter or Ryan Saavedra

Be very careful today. The Propaganda Press is in absolute desperation mode. It's all or nothing for them today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (LISuA)

499 Did you get my suggestions, OM?
I can send more. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 12:28 PM (bDqIh)


I thought I used a couple of them. Maybe I didn't. Send 'em again. Send more!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (2cwOe)

500 Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:35 PM (V40A9)

You're welcome. I think prayer is a very good thing. I had a congregation member who had who had this done about two months ago. It takes a while to recover from and takes longer if the person is older ( I don't know how old your mom is, but my congregation member is in her 80s) and there is some depression afterwards because it's a major organ which controls everything, but she is breathing much better now.
What time is the surgery?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (WI7YS)

501 didn't the obama administration also withhold monetary aid?

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (dnjy6)

502 If running for President as a Democrat

gives you immunity from criminal investigations



Then shut this Impeachment shit show down now.
Because Trump is running for re-election as POTUS.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (ob5xJ)

503 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
========

They said that last month too, in connection with the open Senate seat. Is that the plan?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (LISuA)


that would be okay
as long as Trump gets another good one to replace him

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (vEIlU)

504 Fox is claiming Pompeo is resigning
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:34 PM (7eoML)
+++++++++++
Would be a disappointment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

____________

If that's true, that's REALLY bad.
Posted by: Blago

__________

I just read this was for a Senate run he had planned for a while. Much different spin on things.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:42 PM (sjTfF)

505 Jennifer Griffin misreported what Ken Starr actually said and finally posted a correction. But the fake news is running with the misquote

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 12:42 PM (v2Axo)

506 The Purple Heart should be very special and the the
requirements should be clear. I think overall that is still the case as I
have seen many decorated Generals without a Purple Heart. I am not
saying the shady stuff did not happen over the decades and wars, but I
think they may be overstated at times for whatever reason.

It is
true that military award requirements seem to differ by war, era, and
even service. At Gettysburg, in three days, 64 people earned the Medal
of Honor. No one doubts the sacrifices there, but we can go many wars
without that many awarded.

I am not saying bad purple hearts
have not been issued, they likely were. But I am saying most deserved it
and the medal should never be diminished in any way. Many had their
physical lives changed forever for that piece of ribbon.





Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM

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We had multiple Submarine Skippers being awarded Bronze Stars for nothing other than launching Tomahawk missile strikes.


Not sure if they still do that though.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:42 PM (JUOKG)

507 didn't the obama administration also withhold monetary aid?

Posted by: trapper's girl


Everyone does. It's called "strings", "leverage", etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:42 PM (ob5xJ)

508 IF only we had someone who could sense noods....

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (oIPis)

the only noods i'm looking for are the ones from the cleavage up top...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:43 PM (8D42x)

509 Eric was me. I don't know where that came from.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 20, 2019 12:00 PM (Uu+Jp)

Only got about an inch here yesterday. Not enough to make it worthwhile to limber up the shovel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2019 12:43 PM (/sgva)

510 495 So Ken Starr says this is a bombshell testimony and Trump is guilty of impeachable offense of bribery
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (6XlcD)


No, he didn't. He's paraphrashing with Schiff believes to be true. See comment #319.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 12:43 PM (2cwOe)

511 285
https://tinyurl.com/snm7gbb



Oh, man...you gotta see this. Co!d Fury eviscerates Bill Maher.




Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 12:04 PM (fE1wp)

ITS FUNNY CAUSE YOU YOU COULD JUST SAY OK BOOMER TO MAHER AND THAT WOULD BE A SICK BURN.

Posted by: Ben Rothlisbergergler at November 20, 2019 12:43 PM (ymnmz)

512 Jennifer Griffin misreported what Ken Starr actually said and finally posted a correction. But the fake news is running with the misquote
Posted by: Jen the original


Then it wasn't a misquote, it was intentional.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 12:43 PM (ob5xJ)

513 It seems to me a spine salesmen is missing a GOP sales opportunity in DC. They need some desperately the nutless, gutless pussies.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (O7kBk)

514 Oh darn, did not win the Mega Millions last night.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (Dp5C+)

515 Tag: Stuff that is just fun to read


Former national security adviser Michael Anton suggested Wednesday the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump looks "like an inside job" lawmakers unhappy with the president manufactured.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff interrupted Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman's testimony during an impeachment hearing Tuesday and cited an effort to protect a whistleblower.

"It looks like an inside job of a bunch of career bureaucrats getting together and saying, 'We've wanted to impeach this guy for three years. How do we do it? Oh wait, I think we've found a way,'" Anton, a former National Security Council (NSC) spokesman, said to WMAL's "Mornings on the Mall" co-hosts Vince Coglianese and Mary Walter Wednesday. "Here's the issue."

"It just looks phony, and that's what they're trying to avoid coming out," he added.


daily caller

I wish they would stop saying "whistleblower" and say operative

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (vEIlU)

516
Jennifer Griffin misreported lied about what Ken Starr actually said

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Jennifer Griffin is the Fake News.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (LISuA)

517 >>>https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


Fan, meet shit. Shit and fan, you are about to get very well acquainted.

Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (q177U)

518 I just read this was for a Senate run he had planned for a while. Much different spin on things.
Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2019 12:42 PM (sjTfF)

Wouldn't this be a good time for Barr and Durham to get their head out of their asses and present a case against the dems? Or do we need to find the bagpipes version of Jubilation T Cornpone?

Posted by: No reasonable prosecutor at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (U7k5w)

519 The lasagna has the appropriate amount of cheese on top, only if it is Parmesan. Not this cheddar layer of sadness.

Posted by: Downcast at November 20, 2019 12:45 PM (GxCoZ)

520 "I think the reason they don't want him to say it is not so much to protect the whistleblower's identity, whoever it is, it's to protect the phony veneered process that they used to get this impeachment hearing going," Anton said.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:45 PM (vEIlU)

521 Consider every bleating from the media as enemy action.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:45 PM (Dp5C+)

522 It seems to me a spine salesmen is missing a GOP sales opportunity in DC. They need some desperately the nutless, gutless pussies.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (O7kBk)
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Why should a spine salesman set up shop in an expensive city that doesn't have a market?

Those spineless dweebs are happy with it and don't want one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:45 PM (I2dne)

523
Wow.

My baby will have this condition when she's born, and I'm glad there are such awesome people out there:

https://tinyurl.com/sflkfzy

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (GPeXd)

524 should someone check under the shelves to see if Ace is ok?

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (8D42x)

525 Jennifer Griffin has been solid. I give the benefit of the doubt unless this happens again.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (1NJJk)

526 ace is at teh cosplay showing of Bladerunner today. Today is the last day you can watch it without it being in the past.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (ngSZO)

527 Oh darn, did not win the Mega Millions last night.
Posted by: Anna Puma

You're in good company

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (arJlL)

528 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (WI7YS)

Procedure is 1:00 pm Pacific time. Mom is 82, healthy as a horse but has a leaky valve. For a long time she was too healthy to have the procedure done. Now it has become a "standard" surgery for AFib, she was cleared. Thank you also for the insight into recovery. I will keep and eye out for those.

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:47 PM (V40A9)

529 Lee Zeldin has been claiming for the last couple days the the testimony of Mark Sandy from the OMB would explain why the Ukrainian aid was held and it has nothing to do with Trump demanding investigations.

The testimony was given in secret on Saturday and Schiff is refusing to release it.

It will come out eventually. Extinguish hair.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:47 PM (ZLI7S)

530 Eric Ciaramella will never testify, sine he was just a mouthpiece for Vindman and, now, Sondland seems to have blown the Ukraine issue out of the water. He completely exonerated Trump of everything except being a victim of office gossip among the foreign service types.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:47 PM (LISuA)

531 remember ACE?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (oIPis)


The guy I didn't have lunch with today.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (vEIlU)

532 Anna Puma. My condolences.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (O7kBk)

533 So will Ace retire Love?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (Dp5C+)

534 remember ACE?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM (oIPis)

The place with the helpful hardware folks

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (7HtZB)

535 525 Jennifer Griffin has been solid. I give the benefit of the doubt unless this happens again.

yeah, about as solid as Shartwell on a hot mic

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (rpxSz)

536 524 should someone check under the shelves to see if Ace is ok?
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (8D42x)

I know, right?

Posted by: You can do it, we can help at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (U7k5w)

537 Eric Ciaramella will never testify, sine he was just a mouthpiece for Vindman and, now, Sondland seems to have blown the Ukraine issue out of the water. He completely exonerated Trump of everything except being a victim of office gossip among the foreign service types.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:47 PM (LISuA)
++++++++++++
And in so doing, Sondland exposed himself as extremely weak-minded for believing that the rumors he was hearing about what his boss said instead of referring back to what his boss actually told him directly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:48 PM (I2dne)

538
Clarification, the agenesis, not the trisomy-9, but still. what a fuckhead.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (GPeXd)

539 It is rather funny. Mash up Trump vs. Obama on announcing the deaths of terrorists. I'm sure what's his name's audience is laughing because they think he's (Trump) a clown but unlike Obama, Trump is genuine and not a stuffed shirt and empty suit:

https://tinyurl.com/uq6ogsk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (WI7YS)

540 We had multiple Submarine Skippers being awarded Bronze Stars for nothing other than launching Tomahawk missile strikes.


Not sure if they still do that though.


Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 12:42 PM (JUOKG
I am not up to getting into the detail here at this time. But there seems to be two different types of Bronze Stars these days. Way back when, it was considered just below the Silver Starr, which is just below the Medal of Honor. But there seems to be a new, non combat V type of bronze star. That is too bad as it only diminishes the medal. If someone earned it fair and square that is fine. But the impression many have about the Bronze Star is it is for valor in combat and only below two other medals of valor.


The purple heart is no bronze star. If certain services want to expand the issuance of bronze stars that is fine. But you can't expand the Purple Heart. Getting shot is getting shot.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (n13/j)

541 -
--
remember ACE?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 12:40 PM

-------------------

Wanna see my helpful hardware?



Posted by: The Helpful Hardware Man at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (pMGkg)

542 https://tinyurl.com/rzrl8rm

Posted by: JackStraw


Fan, meet shit. Shit and fan, you are about to get very well acquainted.
Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2019 12:44 PM (q177U)


Checkmate Dimocrats

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (vEIlU)

543 You'll note they all pronounce it bureeeeeesma. Like breeeeezy. Like the most inoffensive way to pronounce a name. Like there's no threat or story there. Remember HALLiBURton?

Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 12:50 PM (7eoML)

544 507 didn't the obama administration also withhold monetary aid?

Posted by: trapper's girl

Everyone does. It's called "strings", "leverage", etc.


You show me one President since, oh, maybe McKinley who hasn't.

For God's sake, we have a VICE PRESIDENT ADMITTING TO BEING A CORRUPT SACK OF SHIT, perhaps acting on the orders or at least with the knowledge of his boss, what the Hell is wrong with putting a little bit of pressure on to ensure that he's properly investigated?

Oh wait, he's a Democrat. Circle the wagons.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 12:50 PM (8erNz)

545 Question: If Impeachment is the Go-To process for the most trivial of disagreements, does that mean we can use the impeachment process to ruin the careers of judges who don't agree with us?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 20, 2019 12:50 PM (lD3vL)

546 Wow.

My baby will have this condition when she's born, and I'm glad there are such awesome people out there:

https://tinyurl.com/sflkfzy
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (GPeXd)
+++++++++++++
That is unbelievably fucked up. And in America. Not just America, but in a relatively sane place like Ohio.

It appears that Toledo may have a shithead problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:50 PM (I2dne)

547 Aww, It's Benedict Cumberbunny! If that's a pic of his mom, Wanda Ventham, she played his mom on the show Sherlock, as did his real life dad. And Martin Freeman's partner at the time played his girlfriend/wife Mary Morstan.

I love lasagna. I make an amazing keto zucchini lasagna! And because it's keto I use real ricotta, none of that subbing cottage cheese or whatever to make it lower in fat. Full fat baby.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (hvf9s)

548 Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:47 PM (V40A9)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (WI7YS)

549 538
Clarification, the agenesis, not the trisomy-9, but still. what a fuckhead.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (GPeXd)
What is agenesis?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (6XlcD)

550 The Purple Heart, like the CIB is sacred. Should not be issued to a staffer with a paper cut.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (O7kBk)

551 Former Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh was charged on Wednesday with wire fraud and tax evasion relating to sales of her self-published "Healthy Holly" children's book to charities where she worked, federal prosecutors said.

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (3aI0K)

552 Impeachment and conviction of federal judge Alcee Hastings did not negatively impact his career prospects.

He is now a Democrat in the US House.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (Dp5C+)

553 Sorry Quilter-Jumpy Computer. Yes, the procedure has come along quite a ways that in earlier days.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (WI7YS)

554 Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (3aI0K)

555 538
Clarification, the agenesis, not the trisomy-9, but still. what a fuckhead.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (GPeXd)

I don't know how people can be so nasty to families trying to do the best for their child. Cures and treatments can come at an time, and what was once a dangerous thing, becomes very treatable. 20 years ago one type of AML was always fatal, now it is the most curable.

Posted by: You can do it, we can help at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (U7k5w)

556
398 394
Jussie Smollett Sues City Of Chicago For Malicious Prosecution
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Damn shame I'm actually rooting for Chicago in this case.
Posted by: SMH

Can they both lose?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

This is definitely a "rooting for heavy casualties" situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (NWiLs)

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The only ones that lose will be the Chicago Taxpayers.

Posted by: rd at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (+0uDE)

557 Ace probably fell asleep watching the hearings.. boring!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (so+oy)

558 I wonder how Eric Ciaramella will like being interviewed by the Fibbies...Maybe pull a Swallwell halfway through and see if that quickens things up.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (LISuA)

559 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (WI7YS)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (V40A9)

560 FBI seeks interview with CIA whistleblower
Michael Isikoff and Zach DorfmanReporters,
Yahoo News
November 20, 2019

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (vEIlU)

561 An indictment drawn up by Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that Hunter Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (3aI0K)

562 554
Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (3aI0K)

See Tass and Interfax-Ukraine are both Russia propaganda.
Really, that's what the Left is saying about this report.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (CQ3Qb)

563 Off depot sock.

This is turning into a da full of fake news.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (U7k5w)

564 >>$7.4 billion in laundered money from Ukraine sent through a US financial company with ties to the Democrat Party.

I posted yesterday that I thought there would be no way that the DNC could pass up on that sweet sweet freshly laundered tax payer cash in Ukraine that everyone else was scooping up -

And lo and behold! One day later...yep - they pulled up their brinks truck and made off with over $7B.

Posted by: Boswell at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (32YRo)

565 Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million
Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (3aI0K)
+++++++++++++
That's like 0.2% to the Bidens. They just wet their beaks.

Someone's soaking his beak and I'd love to know who it is.

(note: this doesn't mean that I think the Bidens shouldn't be perp-walked)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (I2dne)

566 head of burisma just indicted in ukraine.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (dnjy6)

567 Wow.

My baby will have this condition when she's born, and I'm glad there are such awesome people out there:

https://tinyurl.com/sflkfzy
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (GPeXd)
+++++++++++++
That is unbelievably fucked up. And in America. Not just America, but in a relatively sane place like Ohio.

It appears that Toledo may have a shithead problem.
======

There's a special place in hell for trash like that. I hope their house burns down on Christmas Eve.

Sick fuckers.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (QsyhO)

568 Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 12:52 PM (3aI0K)

=========

Hookers and blow dealers can confirm.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (LISuA)

569 My baby will have this condition when she's born, and I'm glad there are such awesome people out there:

https://tinyurl.com/sflkfzy
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (GPeXd)

What a messed up article. I'm a special needs parent myself, there is nothing harder or more satisfying. It's strange but tragedy and joy can become strangely intertwined with each other. There's a saying in the special needs community "the lows may be lower than low but the highs are higher than high." Stay strong, my friend.

Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (q177U)

570 568 Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million

Is this new?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (6XlcD)

571 ace failed no nut November last night and now is chasing the dragon again.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (ngSZO)

572 But there seems to be two different types of Bronze Stars these days.
Way back when, it was considered just below the Silver Starr, which is
just below the Medal of Honor. But there seems to be a new, non combat V
type of bronze star. That is too bad as it only diminishes the medal.
If someone earned it fair and square that is fine. But the impression
many have about the Bronze Star is it is for valor in combat and only
below two other medals of valor.

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the error could be on my side. Even a quick check shows that the award was not originally given for specific valorous acts. The combat V award is the one I recall that people had to do a hell of a lot for. Again. I am not disrespecting anyone who earned a medal. But yeah, there have been a hell of a lot of Bronze Stars issued. Lots of dead guys never got one. That is all I am going to say about it.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (n13/j)

573 Tea Pot Dome was supposed to be a warning, not an instructional.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (Dp5C+)

574 Eggplant lasagna is quite good, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (1NJJk)

575 >>Is this new?

yes

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (ZLI7S)

576 Clarification, the agenesis, not the trisomy-9, but still. what a fuckhead.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:49 PM (GPeXd)
What is agenesis?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 12:51 PM (6XlcD)

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Agenesis of the corpus callosum - a symptom of trisomy-9 (in these people's case), a symptom of Dandy-Walker syndrome, in mine.

Poor or nonexistent development of the corpus callosum, leading to serious motor function delays, and often mental disability (50%).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (GPeXd)

577 560 FBI seeks interview with CIA whistleblower
Michael Isikoff and Zach DorfmanReporters,
Yahoo News
November 20, 2019
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:53 PM (vEIlU)

Isikoff? Mr dossier conduit?

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (U7k5w)

578 Eggplant lasagna is quite good, too.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (1NJJk)
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it is. Sadly, though, eggplant makes my mouth burn and then go numb - I think it is a very mild allergy - so I have to minimize my intake.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (I2dne)

579 >>> But RuPaul has become an enemy of the Alphabetsexual variations crowd.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:38 PM (Dp5C+)

Oooooh I would love a link. Drag Race used to be my fave guilty pleasure show, but I stopped watching the last few seasons.

The LGBT community are often frenemies with each other, not allies. They have a tenuous partnership. I always find it fascinating when the seams in that alliance openly start tearing.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (hvf9s)

580 574 Eggplant lasagna is quite good, too.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 12:55 PM (1NJJk)

Vegetable Poo

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (ngSZO)

581 LizLem no link.

Just something that stuck in the memory banks.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (Dp5C+)

582 523
Wow.
My baby will have this condition when she's born, and I'm glad there are such awesome people out there:
https://tinyurl.com/sflkfzy

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (GPeXd)


That there are people out there who would do this completely disgusts me.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (2cwOe)

583 550 The Purple Heart, like the CIB is sacred. Should not be issued to a staffer with a paper cut.
__________

Yeah, this fat fuck gets "injured" in the morning and is back at work in the afternoon?

What did his "injury" consist of? A hangnail? A bruise? This jerk is the Frank Burns of the Army.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (k4dH2)

584 it is. Sadly, though, eggplant makes my mouth burn and then go numb - I think it is a very mild allergy - so I have to minimize my intake.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (I2dne)

Do you have that problem with all nightshades?

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (U7k5w)

585 The LGBT community are often frenemies with each other, not allies. They have a tenuous partnership. I always find it fascinating when the seams in that alliance openly start tearing.
Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 12:56 PM (hvf9s)

The piece from Dave Chappelle's latest standup is incredibly on the nose.

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (KUaJL)

586 Wow.

My baby will have this condition when she's born, and I'm glad there are such awesome people out there:

https://tinyurl.com/sflkfzy
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 12:46 PM (GPeXd)
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That is unbelievably fucked up. And in America. Not just America, but in a relatively sane place like Ohio.

It appears that Toledo may have a shithead problem.
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There's a special place in hell for trash like that. I hope their house burns down on Christmas Eve.

Sick fuckers.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (QsyhO)


This is how horrible the society is deteriorating. God help us.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (vEIlU)

587 540 We had multiple Submarine Skippers being awarded Bronze Stars for nothing other than launching Tomahawk missile strikes.

Back in the day when you had a draft and every block had five or 10 veterans, EVERYONE knew that not everyone who polished a button was a hero.

You had the reckless and the calculating, the eager beavers and the goldbricks. The career guys and the counting-the-days guys. And above all you had the lucky (whether earned or unearned) and the unlucky (likewise).

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (8erNz)

588 also, the 11th circuit was flipped in our favor.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 20, 2019 12:58 PM (dnjy6)

589 Jussie Smollett Sues City Of Chicago For Malicious Prosecution
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Damn shame I'm actually rooting for Chicago in this case.
Posted by: SMH



Kim Fox just launched her reelection campaign. She's going to be fighting Trump, the NRA, whitey and the old boys network. Actual criminals will get a free pass

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 12:58 PM (mpeBU)

590 Do you have that problem with all nightshades?
Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (U7k5w)
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Nope, just eggplant that I'm aware of.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:58 PM (I2dne)

591 585 The LGBT community are often frenemies with each other, not allies. They have a tenuous partnership. I always find it fascinating when the seams in that alliance openly start tearing.
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You'll have that when malignant narcissists try to out-narcissist one another.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 12:58 PM (QsyhO)

592 >> There's a saying in the special needs community "the lows may be lower than low but the highs are higher than high." Stay strong, my friend.

I love that.

Blessings upon you both, Yudhishthira and Max.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (hvf9s)

593 I'm in the waiting room at the hospital. My son is in surgery now. I appreciate all the prayers from the horde.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

594

No TV on, but falling asleep waiting on Ace...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (vEIlU)

595 That's like 0.2% to the Bidens. They just wet their beaks.

Someone's soaking his beak and I'd love to know who it is.
_______________

I wonder how much the Clinton Foundation got.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (k4dH2)

596 The thing is, I just can't keep doing Cary Grant week after week.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at November 20, 2019 12:26 PM (2cwOe)

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A call for photo submissions from morons a la the pet thread?

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (bJ1Sx)

597
I think that is true of all pasta, save pizza. Really, any saucey food can benefit from sitting around.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (v2ozf)

Saucy food is fine. Saucy wenches are better.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (NWiLs)

598 Ah like the cut of that Kin Stah's jib!

Posted by: Lizard Carville at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (vtcmf)

599 Saucy food is fine. Saucy wenches are better.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (NWiLs)
+++++++++++++
You want saucy wenches.
You'll settle for saucy food.
You'll get a sauced Clinton.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (I2dne)

600 HELL OF A WAY TO RUN NOTHING IS GOING HAPPEN

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (BqBId)

601 593 I'm in the waiting room at the hospital. My son is in surgery now. I appreciate all the prayers from the horde.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

Prayers up Cyber. Safe and healthy recovery

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (V40A9)

602 Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

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Done. Whatever it is, may it go well.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 01:00 PM (GPeXd)

603 Has Subway sued Jussie yet for slandering their good name?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:01 PM (Dp5C+)

604 The Purple Heart, like the CIB is sacred. Should not be issued to a staffer with a paper cut.
__________

Yeah, this fat fuck gets "injured" in the morning and is back at work in the afternoon?

What did his "injury" consist of? A hangnail? A bruise? This jerk is the Frank Burns John Fucking Kerry of the Army.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer


Fixt.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:01 PM (ob5xJ)

605 Nope, just eggplant that I'm aware of.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:58 PM (I2dne)

Good! Some people can't eat any pepper or tomatoes either. Few have potato issues.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:01 PM (U7k5w)

606 This is definitely a "rooting for heavy casualties" situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 12:25 PM (NWiLs)

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The only ones that lose will be the Chicago Taxpayers.


Yeah, well they voted for this shit, they can get fragged.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (8erNz)

607 Good! Some people can't eat any pepper or tomatoes either. Few have potato issues.
Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:01 PM (U7k5w)
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Peppers and tomatoes are damn near dietary staples. Super happy I don't have that problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (I2dne)

608 603 Has Subway sued Jussie yet for slandering their good name?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:01 PM (Dp5C+)

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Think Jared beat Jussie there.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (RU4sa)

609 Has Subway sued Jussie yet for slandering their good name?
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Knowing this shitty woke corporate culture, they'll dedicate a new footlong to him.

"Try our new footlong! In your mouth or up your ass!"

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (QsyhO)

610 That's like 0.2% to the Bidens. They just wet their beaks.

Someone's soaking his beak and I'd love to know who it is.

(note: this doesn't mean that I think the Bidens shouldn't be perp-walked)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 12:54 PM (I2dne)

the DNC is my bet...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (8D42x)

611 585 The LGBT community are often frenemies with each other, not allies.
They have a tenuous partnership. I always find it fascinating when the
seams in that alliance openly start tearing.

The "T" was added only during TFGs reign of error. Even the LGB folk know mental illness when they see it.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (DU2N9)

612 603 Has Subway sued Jussie yet for slandering their good name?

Hi there!

Posted by: Jared Fogle at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (8erNz)

613 I think that is true of all pasta, save pizza. Really, any saucey food can benefit from sitting around.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2019 12:31 PM (v2ozf)

lasagna maybe but no way a simple pasta benefits from sitting around Pasta noodles get dry over time and they do not get better. Same with pizza by the way The reason reheated pizza is not as good is that the crust is getting drier and drier

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (n13/j)

614 Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 12:47 PM (V40A9)

They should give you a packet on what to expect after the surgery, but sometimes with everything going on it (understandably) doesn't get read or it's hard to absorb. God bless you and your mom.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (WI7YS)

615 "Try our new footlong! In your mouth or up your ass!"
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (QsyhO)
+++++++++++
It was supposed to "and then OUT your ass" - not up! This was a huge communication problem, likely due to a bad mobile phone connection.

Posted by: Subway Brand Manager at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (I2dne)

616 Knowing this shitty woke corporate culture, they'll dedicate a new footlong to him.

"Try our new footlong! In your mouth or up your ass!"
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (QsyhO)

Black An(g)us Beef

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (NWiLs)

617 Eggplant lasagna is quite good, too.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


Eggplant Parm.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (ob5xJ)

618 This is how horrible the society is deteriorating. God help us.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2019 12:57 PM (vEIlU)

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A "sign" of the times, as it were.

There is also an entire panel of top-notch doctors who are helping us through this at Children's in Aurora, and they very much care about sick children.

We'll see which side of this moral divide wins in the end.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (GPeXd)

619 Peppers and tomatoes are damn near dietary staples. Super happy I don't have that problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (I2dne)

Me too, I can't imagine developing a nightshade allergy

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (U7k5w)

620 Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

What is your mom in surgery for? I will pray for her

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (WI7YS)

621 An indictment drawn up by Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that Hunter Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.


Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (3aI0K)

622 Eggplant lasagna is quite good, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


And lo-carb/keto friendly (though the eggplant itself is kinda starchy)

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (DU2N9)

623 @NBCNews 2 minutes ago

BREAKING: Prince Andrew says he has asked the Queen to step back from public duties "for the foreseeable future, and she has given her permission."

"I continue to unequivocally regret my ill-judged association with Jeffrey Epstein."

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (cF8AT)

624 The "T" was added only during TFGs reign of error. Even the LGB folk know mental illness when they see it.

Yeah, that's about right.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (8erNz)

625 >>Kim Fox just launched her reelection campaign. She's going to be
fighting Trump, the NRA, whitey and the old boys network. Actual
criminals will get a free pass


Also fighting the Chicago police.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (bDqIh)

626

WHOA!

Prince Pedo just announced he's stepping back from his "public duties." This is huge.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (oIPis)

627 EMPEACH!!!

Posted by: Lizard Carville at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (vtcmf)

628 nood WSJ

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (8D42x)

629 ...when Trump signed this Executive Order do you think he already knew about the extensive corruption between the Ukraine government and the Democrats?

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (3aI0K)

630 the DNC is my bet...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (8D42x)
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Very likely, and a constellation of other affiliates. Atlantic Council and ANTAC are probably on the list.

Freaking Soros. Naming his organization designed to squeeze graft out of Ukraine via influence peddling the "Anticorruption Action Center" is downright Orwellian.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (I2dne)

631 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (WI7YS)

Yes we will get post op instructions and side effects/restrictions. Thank you again, and all the horde.

Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (V40A9)

632 Maybe I should not have mentioned Subway... imagine if Jussie had had an Arby's

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (Dp5C+)

633 620 Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

What is your mom in surgery for? I will pray for her
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (WI7YS)

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His son is in surgery.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (RU4sa)

634 the DNC is my bet...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (8D42x)
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I thought they were broke?

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (Xvo1a)

635 Prince Pedo just announced he's stepping back from his "public duties." This is huge.

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That's not what she said.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (sX1BW)

636

I mean, the prince's "pubic duties" are super important and shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (oIPis)

637 BREAKING: Prince Andrew says he has asked the Queen to step back from public duties "for the foreseeable future, and she has given her permission."

"I continue to unequivocally regret my ill-judged association with Jeffrey Epstein."


What, he didn't ask to identify as Prince Andrea and join an order of nuns?

His penance is nowhere near complete.

Posted by: JEM at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (8erNz)

638 Pop flare!

Nood up

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (ob5xJ)

639 We'll see which side of this moral divide wins in the end.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (GPeXd)

We must. May she have a bright future and may research make it even brighter.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (U7k5w)

640
611 585 The LGBT community are often frenemies with each other, not allies.
They have a tenuous partnership. I always find it fascinating when the
seams in that alliance openly start tearing.

The "T" was added only during TFGs reign of error. Even the LGB folk know mental illness when they see it.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (DU2N9)


I'm guessing the Ls don't enjoy being told they're transphobes for not wanting to sleep with a dude with a dick just because he claims he's a lesbian.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:06 PM (SjIcT)

641 Public duties.

The entire royal family should have been taken to the Thames and submerged until the bubbles stopped.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 01:06 PM (1NJJk)

642 463 The Purple Heart should be very special and the the requirements should be clear. I think overall that is still the case as I have seen many decorated Generals without a Purple Heart. I am not saying the shady stuff did not happen over the decades and wars, but I think they may be overstated at times for whatever reason.

It is true that military award requirements seem to differ by war, era, and even service. At Gettysburg, in three days, 64 people earned the Medal of Honor. No one doubts the sacrifices there, but we can go many wars without that many awarded.

I am not saying bad purple hearts have not been issued, they likely were. But I am saying most deserved it and the medal should never be diminished in any way. Many had their physical lives changed forever for that piece of ribbon.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 12:36 PM (n13/j)


So true about many people's physical lives changed forever for their Purple Heart.

My grandpa was badly wounded in the Battle of the Bulge. He was a scout with the 25th cavalry - I think. All I know is he got shrapnel in his arm, head, and back, and was in a hospital in England for a few months.

Once or twice he mentioned he received a Purple Heart.

But he never talked about what is was like being in that battle. One can only imagine how horrendous it must have been.

It's maddening when some arrogrant SOB like Lt Colonel Lardass cheapens it.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (CmURZ)

643 Mother and son Who Dis. Nice.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2019 01:08 PM (AJKgl)

644 How about NSA liaison to McMurdo Station?
.
Posted by: FireNWater at November 20, 2019 12:32 PM (S4rpa)

Can they bust Vindman down to buck private, and make him do Basic Training again?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2019 01:09 PM (/sgva)

645 >>> I'm guessing the Ls don't enjoy being told they're transphobes for not wanting to sleep with a dude with a dick just because he claims he's a lesbian.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 01:06 PM (SjIcT)

The G's too, if they don't like a dude without a wang.

The B's are considered lazy and wanting it both ways, and disliked by both G's and L's. Which is really hurtful to the friends that I have that are bi.

And yes, T's are disliked by LGBs. But they are all in the same car, as Chapelle said, and have to get along for now even if they hate each other.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (hvf9s)

646 BREAKING: Prince Andrew says he has asked the Queen to step back from public duties "for the foreseeable future, and she has given her permission."

He asked, hah. She planted her handbag so far up his ass

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (TT5JW)

647 We must. May she have a bright future and may research make it even brighter.
Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 01:05 PM (U7k5w)

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Thanks

I'll do what I can, in the meantime

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 01:12 PM (GPeXd)

648 616 Knowing this shitty woke corporate culture, they'll dedicate a new footlong to him.

"Try our new footlong! In your mouth or up your ass!"
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 20, 2019 01:02 PM (QsyhO)

Black An(g)us Beef

I denounce myself.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 01:03 PM (NWiLs)

If they were truly woke, they'd be trying to force you to go Vegan.

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 01:13 PM (UnA8+)

649 593
I'm in the waiting room at the hospital. My son is in surgery now. I appreciate all the prayers from the horde.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM


Done


Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (G9Y8y)

650 Can they bust Vindman down to buck private, and make him do Basic Training again?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Not really. They can basically retire him in place. Unless he coordinate d with outsiders like fusion of his brother. Then pain could be brought.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2019 01:14 PM (TT5JW)

651 626

WHOA!

Prince Pedo just announced he's stepping back from his "public duties." This is huge.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 01:04 PM (oIPis)

He has duties?

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 01:18 PM (7HtZB)

652 >>>I'm in the waiting room at the hospital. My son is in surgery now. I appreciate all the prayers from the horde.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

Willowed, but prayers up, my friend.

Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2019 01:21 PM (q177U)

653 646 BREAKING: Prince Andrew says he has asked the Queen to step back from public duties "for the foreseeable future, and she has given her permission."

He asked, hah. She planted her handbag so far up his ass
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2019 01:10 PM (TT5JW)

QEII doesn't say a lot in public.

But you know she's fuming like mad over Randy Andy's latest peccadillo, and she's given him an old-fashioned dressing-down.

She seems like the only reason just about any miscreant in the British Royal Family will temper his or her behavior.

If Charles doesn't completely wreck things after the Queen passes. the only hope that monarchy has - tenuous as it is - will be William and Kate. And that's not saying a whole lot, IMHO.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 20, 2019 01:23 PM (CmURZ)

654 Sorry, Cybersymthe. I read that as your mom, not son. I will pray for your son.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 01:24 PM (WI7YS)

655 I'm in the waiting room at the hospital. My son is in surgery now. I appreciate all the prayers from the horde.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2019 12:59 PM (IpPh0)

Add another prayer for your son, Cybersmythe.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 20, 2019 01:26 PM (CmURZ)

656 >>> I'm now trying to imagine the current snowflakes growing up under the shadow of nuclear war.
My imagination says this wouldn't be a pretty sight.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

I think this is credited to G Michael Hopf:

"Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times"

Repeat an an infinity loop forever and that is civilization in a nutshell. America is in the "good times create weak men" stage of this cycle, bleeding into the next stage.

Posted by: LizLem at November 20, 2019 01:49 PM (hvf9s)

Mid-Morning Art Thread [Kris]

Poussin Arcadia.jpg


Et in Arcadia ego
Nicolas Poussin

Nicholas Poussin was one of the most influential painters of the Baroque era. While other Baroque artists were composing art with dramatic forms and lighting, vivid, radiant color, and huge action, Poussin’s art is quiet scenes of heavy classicism. “Poussinisme” would come to describe art that emphasizes form over color, with clean lines and defined pictorial regions, and compositions that appealed to the mind rather than the heart or emotions. His style would define French tastes for almost a century, until the rise of Rococo.

This work is a pastoral, artworks in idyllic landscapes that a viewer is supposed to just enjoy. The subjects are usually shepherds who while away their days playing their pan flutes or lutes, or just relax, while their animals graze in lush, green fields. Arcadia was an area in ancient Greece where Pan, the god of herds, lived, so an “Arcadia” in art is a pastoral located in ancient Greece.

In “Et in Arcadia Ego”, we see three male shepherds and one female figure. The males crowd around a large stone object that just sits on a rise in the middle of this landscape. It is engraved with the work’s title, which translates to: “I am also in Arcadia.” They think about this when a woman appears. She is not with the men because her clothes and body language are different, and the men seem to defer to her. Usually artists will use attributes to identify their figures so audiences don’t have to guess. Poussin has left her identification ambiguous. Many scholars I’ve read believe she is a goddess.

The woman is tall and statuesque. One hand is on her hip while she gently rest the other on the back of the red shepherd. No emotion shows on her face. If she is a goddess then Poussin is adhering to the Classical trait of aloofness in the gods. She seems to listen patiently to their questions about the object and its meaning.

The color palette is subdued here except in the cloaks of the three central figures. This immediately draws our attention to them. Each figure wears one of the primary colors for further emphasis. Of these three, I think the two on the right, dressed in red and yellow, are the most important. The two most vivid colors right next to each other radiate in the neutral browns and tans surrounding them. These figures are opposites: male and female, body and spirit, confusion and confidence, bent over and standing straight, ignorance and knowledge, emotion and rationality. I think Poussin might be acknowledging the two sides of human existence, but is placing importance on rationality and knowledge and saying that they are found in the Divine.

The goddess is almost mirrored by the young man in tan on the very left. Unlike his friends, he doesn’t examine the inscription closely. Instead it seems as though he realizes its implication, accepts its truth, and is saddened by it. His world isn’t what he thought it was. I think the drab color in his outfit may be a reflection of his mood. I also like that, while he is standing while his friend crouch, he is still not as straight or tall as the goddess. This emphasizes her authority and importance further.

The painting is laid out like a scene in a play. Everything is centered and right up front. The gestures are clear and the figures are very well-defined. The landscape is like a painted backdrop in a play. It establishes that Arcadia is truly paradise—beautiful, with green fields and picturesque mountains that stretch as far as the eye can see. But in the center of it all, mounted on a rise for all to see, is the object and its inscription. Its meaning cannot be ignored.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (cF8AT)

2 I don't get it.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (O+iVW)

3 Art! Thx kris

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (PkVlr)

4 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:31 AM (q80AH)

5 Ancient aliens...gotta be.

Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2019 09:31 AM (X/Pw5)

6 Is the guy in blue sticking his finger in a dyke?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (ob5xJ)

7 Looks like the chick is saying "I told you to ask for directions back at the last stop."

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 09:33 AM (ZfRYq)

8 Momma aint happy

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 09:33 AM (G546f)

9 That doesn't look like any 'ette that I know.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:33 AM (Boy/L)

10
"Crack this safe!"

"But I see no tumbler dial here, as this is not a safe!"

"Question me not, yokel! Crack this safe!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:33 AM (pNxlR)

11
Ancient video game arcades kind of sucked. Pac-Man drawn in charcoal on a stone lacks something...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (kw0bd)

12 The body language of the two on the left to me suggests they aren't aware of the woman's presence.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (O+iVW)

13 Willowed, in case anyone is curious about last Saturday's election in LA:

And in 100 comments you are welcome to chat about it. [CBD]

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (Lyh9/)

14 Ancient Greeks Build a Backyard Barbecue
Wife Supervises

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (oVJmc)

15 thanks Kris for this insight - I know little about art [or Art], so your
descriptions are always interesting!

Posted by: geezer der mensch at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (D80T6)

16 You guys are supposed to be working, nit goofing off and getting stoned

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (G546f)

17 13 Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (Lyh9/)

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Dude, please remember the 100 post rule on art threads. CBD justly guards that rule.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (q80AH)

18 If it ain't Barouqe, don't fix it

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (KUaJL)

19 Thank you, Kris. I like this painting. And I always enjoy your commentary.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 09:36 AM (aXucN)

20
I, Too, Am In Arcadia


I see no PacMan here

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:36 AM (pNxlR)

21 Nicholas Poussin was one of the most influential painters of the Baroque era.

Influential? Pffft! The guy was a chicken when it came to art.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (ejd/p)

22 Yay Kris!

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (y7DUB)

23 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (arJlL)

24 The goddess is almost mirrored by the young man in tan on the very left. Unlike his friends, he doesn't examine the inscription closely. Instead it seems as though he realizes its implication, accepts its truth, and is saddened by it. His world isn't what he thought it was.


You're ugly and your momma dresses you funny.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (ob5xJ)

25 There are two specific images that give away the meaning of the piece. I'll reveal them when the comments reach 100 or so.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (OyyDO)

26 I'm going to have to read Kris's description again. I think I'm missing something.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (lwiT4)

27 Et in Arcadia Ego

-Paolo

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:38 AM (KUaJL)

28
Nicholas Poussin


He was cruelly, and inaccurately, called "Fish-Face" behind his back.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:38 AM (pNxlR)

29 17 13 Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (Lyh9/)

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Dude, please remember the 100 post rule on art threads. CBD justly guards that rule.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (q80AH)


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Huh, I've seen people post willowed stuff in morning threads before, but, ok, I'll wait next time.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:38 AM (Lyh9/)

30 But in the center of it all, mounted on a rise for all to see, is the object and its inscription. Its meaning cannot be ignored.


It says 'Drink More Ovaltine'.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:38 AM (lwiT4)

31 Honestly looks like a tomb to me with the dead person revealed only to the one guy on the right.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:38 AM (O+iVW)

32 The body language of the two on the left to me suggests they aren't aware of the woman's presence.
Posted by: Someguy


"And I told her, no, it's ok. Just put it in your mouth. It'll be ok. Trust me."

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:39 AM (ob5xJ)

33 High Art. Not cartoonish. Like me. Would put on wall.

Posted by: Calvin at November 20, 2019 09:39 AM (vqIkG)

34 One of the shepherds drew a dick on that rock.
She is making them clean it off.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 09:39 AM (88+cf)

35 Oh, and the artist has an unfortunate last name.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:39 AM (Lyh9/)

36
Shepherd Tranny Story Hour..... hard pass

Posted by: I may be drunk, but I ain't THAT drunk at November 20, 2019 09:39 AM (nEmT7)

37 hiya
Posted by: JT


Morning again.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:39 AM (ob5xJ)

38
The goddess tagged the farter.

His companions already knew who did it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM (pNxlR)

39 21 Nicholas Poussin was one of the most influential painters of the Baroque era.

Influential? Pffft! The guy was a chicken when it came to art.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (ejd/p)

Perhaps, but he had the ear of the king, and his style would be THE accepted style for the French Royal Academy. The French Academy essentially set the bar for art for the next 200 years. Including the American ones even after the Revolution.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM (OyyDO)

40 18
If it ain't Barouqe, don't fix it


... tempting ...


Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM (XzVUd)

41 I like the one-shoulder look. Don't know how they manage to keep it on though. Maybe some of that sticky tape they use on cleavage.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM (lwiT4)

42 Many scholars believe "I am also in Arcadia" refers to Death, but the Horde knows it realky refers to surprise otter

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM (G546f)

43 The goddess seems like she needs to hit the gym . . . but that could just be due to all the swaths of clothing she has on.

"Et in Arcadia ego" is Latin, yet these are supposed to be Greek shepherds? Even if they could read, if this is 800 B.C. or whatever it was, close to Homer's time, the Romans hadn't even gotten their village by the Tiber started yet. Well, a touch of anachronism gives the art critics something to wrangle over.

Good painting.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (Ejm1K)

44 Huh, I've seen people post willowed stuff in morning threads before, but, ok, I'll wait next time.
Posted by: Jackal


CBD has recently started re-enforcing the rule.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (ob5xJ)

45 Arcadian Graffiti

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (PkVlr)

46 41 I like the one-shoulder look. Don't know how they manage to keep it on though. Maybe some of that sticky tape they use on cleavage.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM (lwiT4)

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Pine sap maybe?

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (Lyh9/)

47
Being put in the box in Arcadia was tantamount to a death sentence.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (pNxlR)

48 Dude, please remember the 100 post rule on art threads. CBD justly guards that rule.

He swims through the thread like a barracuda

Uh-oh ! Here he comes !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (arJlL)

49 Looks like Tom Sawyer whitewashing a fence.

Posted by: johnd01 at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (ukNFU)

50 "Et in Arcadia ego" is Latin, yet these are supposed to be Greek shepherds? Even if they could read, if this is 800 B.C. or whatever it was, close to Homer's time, the Romans hadn't even gotten their village by the Tiber started yet. Well, a touch of anachronism gives the art critics something to wrangle over.

Good painting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



Good catch.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (ob5xJ)

51 I hate it when I'm reading the interesting description of the painting about the shepherds and the goddess when my IPad news alert flashes with the Sondland 'bombshell.'
This is why the right can never have nice things.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (wiXsO)

52 CBD, the goddess is likely Despoina. Despoina was the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon and sister of Arion. She was the goddess of mysteries of Arcadian cults who was worshipped under the title Despoina ("the mistress"), alongside her mother Demeter, one of the central figures of the Eleusinian Mysteries.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (yRAFu)

53 Influential? Pffft! The guy was a chicken when it came to art.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (ejd/p)

He was only a chicken when he was young.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (WI7YS)

54 *plays 2001: A Space Odyssey theme*

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (HUANM)

55 Art that the viewer is supposed to enjoy, what kind of talk is that?

Posted by: Fat Man on an Ottoman at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (H5knJ)

56 44 Huh, I've seen people post willowed stuff in morning threads before, but, ok, I'll wait next time.
Posted by: Jackal


CBD has recently started re-enforcing the rule.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (ob5xJ)

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Huh, good to know. I haven't been following the morning stuff all that heavily for the past few months.

My apologies, CBD!

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Lyh9/)

57 12 The body language of the two on the left to me suggests they aren't aware of the woman's presence.
Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019


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A good point. It looks as though the goddess has just appeared, poof, and only the guy on the right has realized she's there. Sort of like, "Oops, maybe we weren't supposed to be poking around this monument because it's sacred to her --!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Ejm1K)

58 One of the shepherds drew a dick on that rock.
She is making them clean it off.
Posted by: Roland THTG


LOL !!!

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (arJlL)

59
Reading slowly: "Eat ... moar ... chikin"

Sits back: "It's a crummy commercial!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM (pNxlR)

60 The mood I'm getting from this painting is about the same as what you'd see if you took the characters and photoshopped them into a scene where the 3 dudes were trying unsuccessfully to change a tire or something and the woman's watching and judging.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (KUaJL)

61 31 Honestly looks like a tomb to me with the dead person revealed only to the one guy on the right.
Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:38 AM (O+iVW)

I like that. And the inscription is saying, then, "I am "in" Arcadia, too," lying dead here in the ground.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (oGFm1)

62 High Art. Not cartoonish. Like me. Would put on wall.
Posted by: Calvin



Just like Epstein, this ain't gonna hang itself.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (ob5xJ)

63 60 The mood I'm getting from this painting is about the same as what you'd see if you took the characters and photoshopped them into a scene where the 3 dudes were trying unsuccessfully to change a tire or something and the woman's watching and judging.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (KUaJL)

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Yeah, me too. Some things are timeless.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (Lyh9/)

64 I find paintings like this aggravating. There are clever ways of making the meaning of your puzzle clear. This one just assumes you'll infer what the clues are, what the references are to, and what the artist meant by including them. It's all so inside baseball that I just shut down and don't care. And that ticks me off, because I actually want to understand what motivates people.

It's why I'm even more irritated by modern art, where the meanings are not at all hidden, but simply unattainable by looking at some schmear on a wall. All meaning is projected onto the piece by the viewer, while the "artist" mocks the attempts at discerning what the hell he was thinking. And there's not even any skill displayed in the art in the first place.

Posted by: red speck at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (nrC0n)

65 Her shoes. Would not buy.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (lwiT4)

66 Looks like mom asked the kids to construct something in the garden and she is none too pleased with how they've been wasting their time.

Posted by: red speck at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (nrC0n)

67 65 Her shoes. Would not buy.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (lwiT4)

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Not a fan of sandals?

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (Lyh9/)

68 Death is also in Paradise (Arcadia).

Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (5oWLH)

69 Now Kris has me crawling all over this thing trying to figure it out.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (Boy/L)

70 doesn't this painting have something to do with the 'Holy Grail' / DaVinci code nonsense?

"So Lame The Hair Of Tom"

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (saZtE)

71 If it ain't Baroque, don't fix it.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (NWiLs)

72 The cat on the far left looks something like the young Elvis, if he'd grown his hair like that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (Ejm1K)

73 43 The goddess seems like she needs to hit the gym . . . but that could just be due to all the swaths of clothing she has on.

"Et in Arcadia ego" is Latin, yet these are supposed to be Greek shepherds? Even if they could read, if this is 800 B.C. or whatever it was, close to Homer's time, the Romans hadn't even gotten their village by the Tiber started yet. Well, a touch of anachronism gives the art critics something to wrangle over.

Good painting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (Ejm1K)

For Western art of the time, anything classical might be Greek in origin but will be filtered through Rome. The gods will all have the Roman names, for example. But I think it's probably OK to think of classical imagery in art as Greco-Roman, rather than strictly Greek or strictly Roman.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (OyyDO)

74 Unbeknownst to everyone, "Kilroy Was Here" was written on the back of the rock

Posted by: Scuba Dude at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (Oq/TM)

75 Now Kris has me crawling all over this thing trying to figure it out.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (Boy/L)
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"How to keep a moron busy."

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (aXucN)

76 In the north, we spell it borrow-cue, and while you dry-rub, we use lube.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (HT4Y5)

77 Her shoes. Would not buy.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (lwiT4)
************
She needs a pedicure.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wiXsO)

78 A democrat focus group has determined that accusing Trump of murder would be more damning than bribery.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (LxTcq)

79 68 Death is also in Paradise (Arcadia).
Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (5oWLH)

Too bad they paved it and put in a parking lot.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (NWiLs)

80 64 I find paintings like this aggravating. There are clever ways of making the meaning of your puzzle clear. This one just assumes you'll infer what the clues are, what the references are to, and what the artist meant by including them. It's all so inside baseball that I just shut down and don't care. And that ticks me off, because I actually want to understand what motivates people.

It's why I'm even more irritated by modern art, where the meanings are not at all hidden, but simply unattainable by looking at some schmear on a wall. All meaning is projected onto the piece by the viewer, while the "artist" mocks the attempts at discerning what the hell he was thinking. And there's not even any skill displayed in the art in the first place.
Posted by: red speck at November 20, 2019 09:44 AM (nrC0n)

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I think that there are a lot of memes that are flying over our head when it comes to art. "The past is a different country" and all that.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (Lyh9/)

81 Not a fan of sandals?

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (Lyh9/)



Too strappy. I prefer flip flops.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (lwiT4)

82 I love it, great commentary too.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (U7k5w)

83 Stop it Paolo!


Posted by: Arcadia at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (XzVUd)

84 75 Now Kris has me crawling all over this thing trying to figure it out.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (Boy/L)
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"How to keep a moron busy."

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (aXucN)

They are beautiful knockers aren't they?

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (O+iVW)

85 54 *plays 2001: A Space Odyssey theme*

You beat me to it. It also reminded me of the ape-men and the monolith.

Posted by: Pervy Grin at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (g2h27)

86 Fun fact that pollutes my brain: the name "Cajun" given to folks from a section of the US South (Louisiana, etc) derives from the word "Arcadia".

Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 09:49 AM (5oWLH)

87 Now Kris has me crawling all over this thing trying to figure it out.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:46 AM (Boy/L)
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"How to keep a moron busy."
Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 09:47 AM (aXucN)

1. Bewbs
2. Art
3. Shelving
4. Archery
5. Global thermonuclear war

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:49 AM (Boy/L)

88 Too bad they paved it and put in a parking lot.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (NWiLs)

every time I hear that song, "parking lot" sounds like "f--king lie" to me

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (G546f)

89 81 Not a fan of sandals?

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (Lyh9/)



Too strappy. I prefer flip flops.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (lwiT

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Can't stand flip flops. They most certainly are not made for webbed toes.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (Lyh9/)

90 Woman: "Don't you have work to do."

Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (G0vdT)

91 52 CBD, the goddess is likely Despoina. Despoina was the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon and sister of Arion. She was the goddess of mysteries of Arcadian cults who was worshipped under the title Despoina ("the mistress"), alongside her mother Demeter, one of the central figures of the Eleusinian Mysteries.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (yRAFu)

Interesting. I had not heard that one. I think she is someone else, but yours is a good idea too.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (OyyDO)

92
I think that there are a lot of memes that are flying over our head when it comes to art. "The past is a different country" and all that.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (Lyh9/)

Typically they follow pretty broadly employed rules though. Having a goddess(if that is what is intended) without any of her symbols(as far I can tell) is practically a party foul.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (O+iVW)

93 Her shoes. Would not buy.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:45 AM (lwiT4)
************
She needs a pedicure.
Posted by: redridinghood


Needs a trip to the farrier.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (ob5xJ)

94 5. Global thermonuclear war

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Another Swalwell reference?

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (sX1BW)

95 91 52 CBD, the goddess is likely Despoina. Despoina was the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon and sister of Arion. She was the goddess of mysteries of Arcadian cults who was worshipped under the title Despoina ("the mistress"), alongside her mother Demeter, one of the central figures of the Eleusinian Mysteries.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (yRAFu)

Interesting. I had not heard that one. I think she is someone else, but yours is a good idea too.
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Despoina is later known as Persephone.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (yRAFu)

96 Does the guy with no shoes represent anything other than a guy with no shoes?

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (aXucN)

97
52 CBD, the goddess is likely Despoina. Despoina was the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon and sister of Arion. She was the goddess of mysteries of Arcadian cults who was worshipped under the title Despoina ("the mistress"), alongside her mother Demeter, one of the central figures of the Eleusinian Mysteries.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (yRAFu)


Also the great grandmother, many generations back, of Don Demeter, outfielder with the Detroit Tigers in the mid-60s. Traded to them with another player, by the Phillies, in exchange for Jim Bunning, pitcher and future Hall of Famer, and another player.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (pNxlR)

98 Fun fact that pollutes my brain: the name "Cajun" given to folks from a section of the US South (Louisiana, etc) derives from the word "Arcadia".

Yep, after the British kicked the French out of Nova Scotia.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (Boy/L)

99
"Et in Arcadia ego" is Latin, yet these are supposed to be Greek shepherds? Even if they could read, if this is 800 B.C. or whatever it was, close to Homer's time, the Romans hadn't even gotten their village by the Tiber started yet. Well, a touch of anachronism gives the art critics something to wrangle over.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:41 AM (Ejm1K)

For Western art of the time, anything classical might be Greek in origin but will be filtered through Rome. The gods will all have the Roman names, for example. But I think it's probably OK to think of classical imagery in art as Greco-Roman, rather than strictly Greek or strictly Roman.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019


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Right. For Poussin's purposes, and no doubt to a lot of his public, the "ancient" world was all this monolithic Time Before Christ Came Along, all mixed together. My historian's mind was thinking of it as a snapshot in time: "800 B.C., and what the hell is a Roman inscription doing there?"

But exact historical accuracy was, I suppose, irrelevant to Poussin's purpose, like a modern moviemaker using a U.S. tank dressed in German colors and markings in a WWII film.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (Ejm1K)

100 Despoina is later known as Persephone.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (yRAFu)

The paleness of skin certainly calls her to mind.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (O+iVW)

101 Hey, nobody move! I just dropped a contact. Look around.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (IttZ7)

102 92
I think that there are a lot of memes that are flying over our head when it comes to art. "The past is a different country" and all that.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (Lyh9/)

Typically they follow pretty broadly employed rules though. Having a goddess(if that is what is intended) without any of her symbols(as far I can tell) is practically a party foul.
Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (O+iVW)

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Unless the artist is trying to be sly and is implying her status by her dress (rich colors, gold sandals, etc).

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (Lyh9/)

103 As I look closes at the inscription on the rock it appears to read... Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (wiXsO)

104
Despoina is later known as Persephone.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (yRAFu)


In a manner similar to Epstein, who now is known as Not A Suicide.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (pNxlR)

105 "Guys, look, I know you're all taken by the skill in the carving, but I'm telling you they cheaped out on the materials. Look over here at this fissure, if this was legit stone it wouldn't be this wide alread..."

"What are you shitheads doing? You're flock's across half the district!"

"Sorry, bosslady, I guess we got carried away, what with our useless degrees in lesbian stonecarving we'll spend the rest of our lives paying for."

"Not my fault, now back to work!"

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Rvlwi)

106 Nick Pussy took some great pictures, but this isn't one of 'em.

Posted by: monkey at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (CLteG)

107 86 Fun fact that pollutes my brain: the name "Cajun" given to folks from a section of the US South (Louisiana, etc) derives from the word "Arcadia".
Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019


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I thought it was "Acadia," no "r." Did "Acadia" evolve from "Arcadia"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Ejm1K)

108 86 derives from the word "Arcadia".


No "r".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadia

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (XzVUd)

109 Fun fact that pollutes my brain: the name "Cajun" given to folks from a section of the US South (Louisiana, etc) derives from the word "Arcadia".

Yep, after the British kicked the French out of Nova Scotia.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (Boy/L)

"The Great Upheaval"

Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (X/Pw5)

110 Me.
I mean, it's art, so that's good. But Poussin does "generic tree" so much that it's a trope with him. Check out his trees. They aren't really all that happy. You can't tell species or even genus. This one we have: OK, deciduous dicot. yay Poussy-boy.

Also, the painting could be improved by a cabin. Cabins are always nice.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (CPk08)

111 Interesting. I had not heard that one.
Posted by: Kris


Didja hear the one about The Farmer's Daughter ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (arJlL)

112
Right. For Poussin's purposes, and no doubt to a lot of his public, the "ancient" world was all this monolithic Time Before Christ Came Along, all mixed together. My historian's mind was thinking of it as a snapshot in time: "800 B.C., and what the hell is a Roman inscription doing there?"

But exact historical accuracy was, I suppose, irrelevant to Poussin's purpose, like a modern moviemaker using a U.S. tank dressed in German colors and markings in a WWII film.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (Ejm1K)

Japanese people put English words on products because they think it looks cool. QED.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (O+iVW)

113 105 "Guys, look, I know you're all taken by the skill in the carving, but I'm telling you they cheaped out on the materials. Look over here at this fissure, if this was legit stone it wouldn't be this wide alread..."

"What are you shitheads doing? You're flock's across half the district!"

"Sorry, bosslady, I guess we got carried away, what with our useless degrees in lesbian stonecarving we'll spend the rest of our lives paying for."

"Not my fault, now back to work!"
Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Rvlwi)

==========

*nods sagaciously*

And Moby Dick was just about whaling.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (q80AH)

114 107 86 Fun fact that pollutes my brain: the name "Cajun" given to folks from a section of the US South (Louisiana, etc) derives from the word "Arcadia".
Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019

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I thought it was "Acadia," no "r." Did "Acadia" evolve from "Arcadia"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019


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And the people of the Lafayette-Mamou-Ville Platte area still call it "Acadiana."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (Ejm1K)

115 88 Too bad they paved it and put in a parking lot.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 09:48 AM (NWiLs)

every time I hear that song, "parking lot" sounds like "f--king lie" to me
Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (G546f)

They probably put a few of those in the application for a zoning variance.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (NWiLs)

116 those are some nice sandals. They look like Mephistos. I promise you no one who has owned Mephisto sandals says they don't like them.


Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (n13/j)

117
Unless the artist is trying to be sly and is implying her status by her dress (rich colors, gold sandals, etc).
Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:52 AM (Lyh9/)


She will impart to the Arcadians the secret for making rich Corinthian leather, which is inscribed on the rock.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (pNxlR)

118 Meh, not Me. whatever........

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (CPk08)

119 105 "Guys, look, I know you're all taken by the skill in the carving, but I'm telling you they cheaped out on the materials. Look over here at this fissure, if this was legit stone it wouldn't be this wide alread..."

"What are you shitheads doing? You're flock's across half the district!"

"Sorry, bosslady, I guess we got carried away, what with our useless degrees in lesbian stonecarving we'll spend the rest of our lives paying for."

"Not my fault, now back to work!"
Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Rvlwi)

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Now THAT is the story the painting tells me. I mean, look at her expression for crying out loud!

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (Lyh9/)

120 Does the guy with no shoes represent anything other than a guy with no shoes?



Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 09:51 AM (aXucN)

Paul McCartney.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (88+cf)

121 100
Despoina is later known as Persephone.


According to wiki, they are sisters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demeter

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (XzVUd)

122 111 Interesting. I had not heard that one.
Posted by: Kris

Didja hear the one about The Farmer's Daughter ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (arJlL)

A perfect Horde conversation.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (oGFm1)

123 very good commentary. my own inclination is to the classical over the romantic, line over color, structure over expression.

yet, here i've just bought my second old master painting (my first was a wonderful luca giordano), a large landscape by salvator rosa, perhaps the antithesis of poussin & claude, and considered a proto-romantic for generations of artists.

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 09:56 AM (Pg+x7)

124 Paul McCartney.


Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (88+cf)



ISWYDT

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:56 AM (lwiT4)

125 Art like this would have been for public viewing. This is about the time the Salon developed. The Salon was a biennial art show, free and open to the public. They were very popular. Almost anyone who went to one, where artwork like this was shown, would have known the imagery and symbols, and what they meant. Art at this time was meant to speak to as many viewers as possible because its purpose was to edify and teach. You can't do that if the meanings are obscure.

Modern and post-Modern art are the opposite. It's for the initiated only--like a mystery religion with secret rites. The artists painted for themselves and their buddies. If you don't get it, guess what? It's very pretentious and quite annoying. And still they wonder why people are turned off by it and them. Go figure.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:57 AM (OyyDO)

126 ... oops, i mentioned acquiring a painting... was that wrong?

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 09:57 AM (Pg+x7)

127 *nods sagaciously*

And Moby Dick was just about whaling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (q80AH)

------------------------------------

Wait. There's whaling in Moby Dick? I don't remember that. Maybe I shouldn't have stopped reading after 10 pages.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (xsUk9)

128 127
Wait. There's whaling in Moby Dick? I don't remember that. Maybe I shouldn't have stopped reading after 10 pages.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (xsUk9)

==========

You probably thought it was just about two guys sharing a bed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (q80AH)

129 Things are going great at the Pentagon.

Air Force's Inventory Listed Wrong Sites for 79 Nuclear Missiles

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (Boy/L)

130 Also, the painting could be improved by a cabin. Cabins are always nice.


Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (CPk0

A couple happy little trees would have helped also. Those in the background look a bit mad, if you ask me.

Posted by: Bob R. zombie at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (vqIkG)

131
Also, the painting could be improved by a cabin. Cabins are always nice.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (CPk0


Thatched roof, smoke lazily ascending from the chimney and candlelit windows, too!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:59 AM (pNxlR)

132 rich Corinthian leather

None of those guys look like Ricardo Montalban.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 10:00 AM (Boy/L)

133 91I think she is someone else, but yours is a good idea too.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:50 AM (OyyDO)

Who?

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:00 AM (oGFm1)

134
Et in Arcadia ego was also the name of the part one of Brideshead Revisited. It was engraved on a skull in Charles Ryder's dorm room

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 10:00 AM (mpeBU)

135 Also, the painting could be improved by a cabin. Cabins are always nice.


Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (CPk0

A couple happy little trees would have helped also. Those in the background look a bit mad, if you ask me.
Posted by: Bob R. zombie at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (vqIkG)
*************
Throw in some sheep and it would be perfect.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 10:00 AM (wiXsO)

136 Now THAT is the story the painting tells me. I mean, look at her expression for crying out loud!
Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (Lyh9/)

yeah, you can tell they were all looking at the rock and she sneaks up and puts her hand on one guy's shoulder and he looks startled and guilty
"busted!"

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:00 AM (G546f)

137 She will impart to the Arcadians the secret for making rich Corinthian leather, which is inscribed on the rock.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (pNxlR)

---------------------------------

Seeing as this leads to naked men on ottoman, she should have kept that information to herself.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 20, 2019 10:01 AM (xsUk9)

138 Things are going great at the Pentagon.

Air Force's Inventory Listed Wrong Sites for 79 Nuclear Missiles
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:58 AM (Boy/L)

********

Top
Men

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2019 10:01 AM (flINI)

139 Turned on the radio and more hearings going on (I thought they would take a day off to get the narrative straight) Witness is extremely aggressive, self-righteous, hostile to Trump. Who is this a-hole?

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 10:01 AM (MxEKc)

140 Man in blue tunic: I tell ya it's this doo- hicky right here that's the problem.

Posted by: Catwrangler at November 20, 2019 10:01 AM (hYrMH)

141 Witness is extremely aggressive, self-righteous, hostile to Trump.

Schiff?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Boy/L)

142 124 Paul McCartney.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 09:55 AM (88+cf)

ISWYDT
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:56 AM (lwiT4)

I don't.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:02 AM (oGFm1)

143 Who?

The guy on first.

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (arJlL)

144 I saw that story about the nukes. But you can trust the government with healthcare and all else.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (H5knJ)

145 Witness is extremely aggressive, self-righteous, hostile to Trump. Who is this a-hole?
----
Sondland. He flipped on Trump.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (CQ3Qb)

146 This one is easy.

One of the features that gives away the meaning is the small shrub, cast in shadow, at the right of the picture. Death blights every hope, even of the young. The other is, of course, the unusual growth pattern of the tree directly behind the stone structure. There are no large branches on it until it gets to abut head height, and then it demonstrates a dense brush of shrt heavily leafed branches, quite different from the long, clean-limbed boles of its confreres just behind. It's almost as though it has be pollarded, but in Arcadia, that would be unusual. Likely, it has been struck by a falling limb from its neighbors and injured. Even a brush with death radically alters life.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (CPk08)

147 Baroque Plumbers got around Plumbers Crack by wearing spiffy togas

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (flINI)

148 125 "this was about the time the salon developed for public viewing..."

actually, i think the salon was later. but this is the beginning of the academy (colbert) and poussin defined its standard for years afterward.

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (Pg+x7)

149 Things are going great at the Pentagon.



Air Force's Inventory Listed Wrong Sites for 79 Nuclear Missiles

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)


Is that a public-facing document? If so, what idiot would put the CORRECT location of nuclear missiles in a publicly available document?

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (Rvlwi)

150 Right here! This is the spot where we should slap some hot iron to this doohickey!
Right Ma?
Ma?

Posted by: Ancientus Redneckicus at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (vqIkG)

151 All I can think of is they are playing the Greek national anthem.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (Q5ALd)

152 If we go by the footwear, she's not from another world. The barefoot guy is.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (oGFm1)

153 131


Also, the painting could be improved by a cabin. Cabins are always nice.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (CPk0



Thatched roof, smoke lazily ascending from the chimney and candlelit windows, too!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:59 AM (pNxlR)

=========

I got this.

Posted by: Thomas Kinkade, Painter of Light(TM) at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (IttZ7)

154 One of the features that gives away the meaning is the small shrub

The first known artistic reference to the Knights Who Say Ni.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (Boy/L)

155 It just occurred to me from our 2nd Amendment Sanctuary City still obeying 2019 laws that it's the Democrat cities that actually engage in true 2nd Amendment Sanctuary City activism.

It's incredible to realize that. We're asking to please keep our 10 round magazine limits and may we pretty-please have a piece of paper to allow us to carry this approved FFL purchase, and the Democrats are the ones truly advancing the 2nd Amendment legislation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (aZuds)

156 148 125 "this was about the time the salon developed for public viewing..."

People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (NWiLs)

157 According to my studies...

The object is a tomb. Death is also in paradise.

The woman is more ambiguous. There are no attributes to identify her, so she could be anyone that fits the setting or meaning. I think she is Clio, the Muse of History. She represents the memory and lessons of time. These shepherds are learning of something that happened long ago in the past. So long a go that it seems to have been forgotten. Clio is that memory, and she appears to people who are curious to learn about the past.

She is reminding them of a tragedy from history and warning them that an idyllic existence can end.

That's my take.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (OyyDO)

158 It's the esteemed ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland. (Thanks for your service!!!)

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (MxEKc)

159 154
One of the features that gives away the meaning is the small shrub



The first known artistic reference to the Knights Who Say Ni.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (Boy/L)


Yes, the two-level effect is striking.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (CPk08)

160
"I have a purse AND a phone!"

* wearily * "Oh, ha, ha! We GET IT, Persephone!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (pNxlR)

161 She will impart to the Arcadians the secret for making rich Corinthian leather, which is inscribed on the rock.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


A critical revelation for those men, as their previous livelihoods hunting naugas for their hydes have dried up due to hunting those poor creatures to extinction.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (Rvlwi)

162 This isn't a painting that reveals all its meaning(s) at one glance. As Kris points out, the use of color in the garments matters. Also, the position and posture of each figure makes a difference: acceptance (or indifference) about past glory in the figure in brown; puzzled interest by the shepherd in red being encouraged by the goddess; and the active approach of discovery by the shepherd kneeling in the center of the scene. All have different reactions to a symbol of culture beyond their pastoral world.

I wonder if the goddess could be Athena, encouraging these bucolic figures to relearn wisdom that was lost to their society long before the shepherds were born into it. The action of the figure in blue, trying to understand the markings on the stone, is the same as the blue in the skirt of the goddess. A coincidence or a connection?

I've heard of Nicolas Poussin but haven't paid attention to his art. Now to study more of them for his approach and use of color.

Kris and CDB, thanks so much for these glimpses into the world of painting. They expand my understanding and enjoyment.

Posted by: JTB at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (bmdz3)

163 159 154
One of the features that gives away the meaning is the small shrub



The first known artistic reference to the Knights Who Say Ni.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (Boy/L)

Yes, the two-level effect is striking.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (CPk0

Needs a path through the middle.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (NWiLs)

164 152 If we go by the footwear, she's not from another world. The barefoot guy is.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (oGFm1)

The barefoot guy also is the only one without a brightly colored tunic.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 10:07 AM (O+iVW)

165 157 According to my studies...

The object is a tomb. Death is also in paradise.

The woman is more ambiguous. There are no attributes to identify her, so she could be anyone that fits the setting or meaning. I think she is Clio, the Muse of History. She represents the memory and lessons of time. These shepherds are learning of something that happened long ago in the past. So long a go that it seems to have been forgotten. Clio is that memory, and she appears to people who are curious to learn about the past.

She is reminding them of a tragedy from history and warning them that an idyllic existence can end.

That's my take.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:05 AM (OyyDO)

That's all very convincing.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:07 AM (oGFm1)

166 @155 Moron Robbie- You mean the left is in charge? What gives you that idea?

Posted by: JROD at November 20, 2019 10:07 AM (Ie8wE)

167 Does every painting have to be the DaVinci code?

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 10:08 AM (Q5ALd)

168 Kris, who do you think she is?

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:08 AM (G546f)

169 She shows up and the sheep get a break?

Posted by: Jim H at November 20, 2019 10:08 AM (E8rdu)

170 "I have a purse AND a phone!"

* wearily * "Oh, ha, ha! We GET IT, Persephone!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:


Barack? Is that you?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:08 AM (fBape)

171 A path!
A path!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (QUD4S)

172
"Muh record? Muh record! Why you go diggin' up that part of my past, woman? How's I supposed to know she was only thirteen -- she said she was sixteen! Don' you go bringin' up muh record!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (pNxlR)

173 152 If we go by the footwear, she's not from another world. The barefoot guy is.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (oGFm1)

The barefoot guy also is the only one without a brightly colored tunic.
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Hmm. Maybe he's the one who's dead and it's his tomb?

Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (5oWLH)

174 People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.
Posted by: Insomniac

Do you have a funny shaped head ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (arJlL)

175 146: it's around this time in the 17th century that the lone, leafless tree appears in painting, often thought of as a metaphor for mortality and the power of nature. the "blasted tree" as it's called, becomes a feature in dutch landscapes (ruisdael, wijnants) and my rosa painting has a large one dominating the right foreground.

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 10:10 AM (Pg+x7)

176 US Ambassador to the European Union?

Do we have an ambassador to ISIS too?

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 10:10 AM (sX1BW)

177 Hmm. Maybe he's the one who's dead and it's his tomb?

Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (5oWLH)

It all fits!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 10:10 AM (88+cf)

178 You mean the left is in charge? What gives you that idea?

Posted by: JROD at November 20, 2019 10:07 AM (Ie8wE)

--

Football analogy:

It just sucks to realize we're satisfied to keep getting backed up to our goal and breathing a sigh of relief when they only score two points on a safety by tackling us behind our own goal line again.

Could've been worse! At least they didn't score a TD!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:11 AM (aZuds)

179 oh I see my q was answered - Clio

that's better than my guess, which was Hades' mother in law Demeter

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:11 AM (G546f)

180 She is reminding them of a tragedy from history and warning them that an idyllic existence can end.

Who do we know who died AFTER dying or who dies among the immortals?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 10:11 AM (Boy/L)

181 It all fits!

And that rhymes with TITS !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:11 AM (arJlL)

182 ... but i don't think poussin made any thematic use of the trees in this painting.

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 10:11 AM (Pg+x7)

183 Could've been worse! At least they didn't score a TD!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:11 AM (aZuds)

Our marching band is way better!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 10:12 AM (88+cf)

184
176 US Ambassador to the European Union?

Do we have an ambassador to ISIS too?
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 10:10 AM (sX1BW)


Barky had Chris Stevens slotted for that posting, but an unfortunate turn of events prevented that from going through.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:12 AM (pNxlR)

185 173 152 If we go by the footwear, she's not from another world. The barefoot guy is.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (oGFm1)

The barefoot guy also is the only one without a brightly colored tunic.
-----------------
Hmm. Maybe he's the one who's dead and it's his tomb?

Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (5oWLH)

Those could be burial linens. I just noticed the guy on the left and right are both wearing wreaths.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 10:12 AM (O+iVW)

186 ... but i don't think poussin made any thematic use of the trees in this painting.

Posted by: mjc


He had to include them for it to be classified as "art". Tax reasons, I think.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 20, 2019 10:12 AM (Rvlwi)

187 Buncha Greek Homos probably started that fire at Freddy's Fashion Mart. Yeah.

Posted by: Al Sharptato at November 20, 2019 10:12 AM (VNUun)

188 I wonder if the goddess could be Athena, encouraging these bucolic figures to relearn wisdom that was lost to their society long before the shepherds were born into it. The action of the figure in blue, trying to understand the markings on the stone, is the same as the blue in the skirt of the goddess. A coincidence or a connection?

Posted by: JTB at November 20, 2019 10:06 AM (bmdz3)

This is a good one too. That may explain why she's clothed and wearing shoes. Usually by this time in art history, the gods and goddesses were almost always nood. Minerva is almost always an exception.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

189 The esteemed Ambassador Gordon would be more credible if he wasn't foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 10:13 AM (MxEKc)

190 What happened to Amb Sondland? He went from no quid pro quo in his first testimony to the other side today. Not sure if this is to destroy Rudy or PT and Rudy, but not good.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 10:14 AM (ZZDMQ)

191 189 The esteemed Ambassador Gordon would be more credible if he wasn't foaming at the mouth.
Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 10:13 AM (MxEKc)
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"You mad, bro?"

Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 10:14 AM (G0vdT)

192
Oh, a barefoot boy with stockings
Came walking down the street
His hands were full of pockets
And his shoes were full of feet

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:14 AM (pNxlR)

193 Witness is extremely aggressive, self-righteous, hostile to Trump. Who is this a-hole?
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Sondland. He flipped on Trump.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2019 10:03 AM (CQ3Qb)



He magically started to remember things that he claimed didn't happen before

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 10:14 AM (mpeBU)

194 It's helpful to note it's an unmarked tomb.

Poissin's plain dead.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:15 AM (aZuds)

195 174 People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.
Posted by: Insomniac

Do you have a funny shaped head ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (arJlL)

Not especially but it's large and thick.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:15 AM (NWiLs)

196 The man in red also appears to be pointing not at the tomb or writing but the man reading the inscription, who has neither a wreath nor walking stick.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 10:15 AM (O+iVW)

197 It is a nice shrubbery. I like the laurels especially.

But you must now bring us...ANOTHER SHRUBBERY!
*dramatic music*

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:16 AM (NWiLs)

198 What happens if Prince Andrew becomes too much of a liability for the Windsors? Could they strip him of his titles and would they?

Posted by: Augustine at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (BDZWU)

199 Here's another analysis.

https://tinyurl.com/wxbxkg7

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The woman, who could be an allegorical figure
(representing the art of painting that is challenging death's claim to
rule over Arcadia), looks like a figure from the classical past.
----

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (XzVUd)

200
Arrrrgh! Try again:

Oh, a barefoot boy with shoes on
Came walking down the street
His hands were full of pockets
And his shoes were full of feet

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (pNxlR)

201 198 What happens if Prince Andrew becomes too much of a liability for the Windsors? Could they strip him of his titles and would they?
Posted by: Augustine at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (BDZWU)

Send him to the wall!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (KUaJL)

202 People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.
Posted by: Insomniac

Do you have a funny shaped head ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (arJlL)

Not especially but it's large and thick.
Posted by: Insomniac

It'll fit through a doorway, right ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (arJlL)

203 197 It is a nice shrubbery. I like the laurels especially.

But you must now bring us...ANOTHER SHRUBBERY!
*dramatic music*
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:16 AM (NWiLs)

But not as tall, to get a two-level effect

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 10:18 AM (7HtZB)

204 What happens if Prince Andrew becomes too much of a liability for the Windsors?

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The Queen will sum up the will to live another 50 years.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 10:18 AM (sX1BW)

205 He magically started to remember things that he claimed didn't happen before
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 10:14 AM (mpeBU)
+++++++++++
I think they call that "coaching."

It's lying and obfuscation, enabled by the implicit guarantee that there will be no consequences if playing their parts in the farce is counter to any tangential notion of "truth"

Also, this is a great picture and essay. Thanks, Kris!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 10:18 AM (I2dne)

206 202 People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.
Posted by: Insomniac

Do you have a funny shaped head ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (arJlL)

Not especially but it's large and thick.
Posted by: Insomniac

It'll fit through a doorway, right ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (arJlL)

Depends on the doorway.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:18 AM (NWiLs)

207 Thanks for the thoughtful analysis, Kris.

O/T: just heard Andy McCarthy refer to the ClownHouse ShitShow as the "Seinfeld impeachment" -- because it's an impeachment about nothing. * Status: Stolen *

Posted by: ShainS -- it's the "Seinfeld impeachment": an impeachment about nothing at November 20, 2019 10:18 AM (KS7f3)

208

The Only Question For Sondland is: Were you lying two weeks ago or are you lying now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (A3yzb)

209 Thanks for the informed commentary, Kris; It's very helpful and interesting! I appreciate your time spent on this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (WI7YS)

210 "et in arcadia ego" is latin for "i'm off to the mall to play video games"?

Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (sGtp+)

211 Former B'more mayor has been indicted.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ueaw8h7

Posted by: It's a start at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (vqIkG)

212 207 Thanks for the thoughtful analysis, Kris.

O/T: just heard Andy McCarthy refer to the ClownHouse ShitShow as the "Seinfeld impeachment" -- because it's an impeachment about nothing. * Status: Stolen *
Posted by: ShainS -- it's the "Seinfeld impeachment": an impeachment about nothing at November 20, 2019 10:18 AM (KS7f3)
===

Jimmy Dore absolutely ripped it to shreds.

Posted by: Augustine at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (BDZWU)

213 People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.
Posted by: Insomniac

Do you have a funny shaped head ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (arJlL)

Not especially but it's large and thick.
Posted by: Insomniac

It'll fit through a doorway, right ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (arJlL)

Depends on the doorway.
Posted by: Insomniac

Is that why you're not a cat burglar ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (arJlL)

214 Those are olive trees, I think.

Generic trees are best grown in the climate north of Acadia

Posted by: Kincltot at November 20, 2019 10:20 AM (1glZx)

215 Oh, a barefoot boy with shoes on
Came walking down the street
His hands were full of pockets
And his shoes were full of feet
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (pNxlR)
+++++++++++++
One bright morning in the middle of the night
Two dead boys got up to fight
They faced each other back-to-back
Drew their swords and shot each other
A deaf policeman heard the noise
And came to kill the two dead boys
If you don't believe that this lie is true
Just ask the blind man - he saw it, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 10:20 AM (I2dne)

216 The barefoot guy also is the only one without a brightly colored tunic.
-----------------
Hmm. Maybe he's the one who's dead and it's his tomb?
Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019


*
*

That's interesting, especially as the other two men give no indication that they know he is there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 10:20 AM (Ejm1K)

217 ABC Radio News last night tried as hard as they could to put a positive spin on the SCHITTSHOW cherry picking to soundbites. I just laughed my ass off

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:20 AM (BqBId)

218 I love this. First of all, it's gorgeous and shows remarkable talent and skill.

Second, it's morbid and thoughtful. That "stone object" is totally a gravestone. The sawn off stump of a mighty tree gives it away. The verdant landscape, rich colors and young, strong, clueless men are the juxtaposition. The inscription/title drive home the message that death stalks us all, even in the best and happiest of worlds. Not a bit of subtlety in this one.

I love this. I want to steal this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:21 AM (5aX2M)

219 Is that why you're not a cat burglar ?
Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (arJlL)

Nah, it's a simple matter of risk/reward. Cats don't have much of a street value.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)

220 If we go by the footwear, she's not from another world. The barefoot guy is.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2019 10:04 AM (oGFm1)

The barefoot guy also is the only one without a brightly colored tunic.
-----------------
Hmm. Maybe he's the one who's dead and it's his tomb?

Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019 10:09 AM (5oWLH)

Those could be burial linens. I just noticed the guy on the left and right are both wearing wreaths.
Posted by: Someguy


Bruce Willis! Back in the tomb!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:21 AM (fBape)

221 Since we're past 200 comments, can I ask an unrelated question. I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)

222 Quid pro quo is how foreign policy is supposed to work. It makes me postal that they are trying to make it something nefarious.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (Q5ALd)

223 Nah, it's a simple matter of risk/reward. Cats don't have much of a street value.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)
+++++++++++++
With the right customers (ahem), you could make it up on volume.

Posted by: Seedy Chinese Restaurant at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (I2dne)

224 ABC Radio News last night tried as hard as they could...

--

I walked in to see ABC News on TV yesterday morning with enormous text under an impeachment graphic that said THE THREE AMIGOS

Way to go, journalists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (aZuds)

225 >>I love this. I want to steal this.

Of course you do, it looks like they are rolling dice.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (ZLI7S)

226 Posted by: It's a start at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (vqIkG)
*******
& Elijah Cummings went to Hell to escape being indicted

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (BqBId)

227 221 Since we're past 200 comments, can I ask an unrelated question. I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)


Feel it. If it appears a bit slimy, toss it.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (U6f/q)

228 201 198 What happens if Prince Andrew becomes too much of a liability for the Windsors? Could they strip him of his titles and would they?
Posted by: Augustine at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (BDZWU)

Send him to the wall!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (KUaJL)

Ex-King Edward VIII, who abdicated and then tried to collaborate with the Nazi's, was sent to be Governor of the Bahamas and was never allowed to set foot in Great Britain again. It was a lot like sending Napoleon to Elba.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (Kpl3J)

229 Quid pro quo is how foreign policy is supposed to work. It makes me postal that they are trying to make it something nefarious.

-------------

Its even worse. US Presidents are not to exploit their supreme bargaining power.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (sX1BW)

230 Since we're past 200 comments, can I ask an unrelated question. I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)
++++++++++++++
It's probably fine if it's been refrigerated, especially if it's still sealed. Open it up. Is it slimy, weak or wilted? If so, you may have waited too long. If not, you're probably good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (I2dne)

231 Since we're past 200 comments, can I ask an unrelated question. I have some bagged spinach

which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy
it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by
that date?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)

Probably ok, but you will only be mildly entertained.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (88+cf)

232 Reading too much into this painting. Just a group of people asking for directions.

Posted by: It's a start at November 20, 2019 10:24 AM (vqIkG)

233 Quid Pro Quo We ought to change it to Quid Pro D'OH

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:24 AM (BqBId)

234 I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)

--

Personally I don't think it's worth it, and I'll eat pretty much anything way after the date passes. I know more than a few people who have gotten sick after eating old bagged salad.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:24 AM (aZuds)

235 197 It is a nice shrubbery. I like the laurels especially.

But you must now bring us...ANOTHER SHRUBBERY!
*dramatic music*
Posted by: Insomniac at November 20, 2019


*
*

Would it have hurt us, I wonder . . . to have gathered a few laurel leaves?

Posted by: Capt. Kirk at November 20, 2019 10:24 AM (Ejm1K)

236 Since we're past 200 comments, can I ask an unrelated question. I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

If you had watched the video, you'd know that's what made Swallwell fart .

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 10:24 AM (arJlL)

237 Tell me Ambassador, did the Vice President hold Epstein while Trump strangled him?

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (U6f/q)

238 226 Posted by: It's a start at November 20, 2019 10:19 AM (vqIkG)
*******
& Elijah Cummings went to Hell to escape being indicted
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:23 AM (BqBId)

He just wanted to spend more time with his friends and family.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (Kpl3J)

239 Always fascinated by the intricate straps on their sandals. It would drive me nuts.

#nevertrustalibertarian. Especially not a boomer Libertarian.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (Fxgkp)

240 People watching me get my hair cut would creep me out.
Posted by: Insomniac

Do you have a funny shaped head ?
Posted by: JT


Not especially but it's large and thick.
Posted by: Insomniac


I've been told I have a thick head before, too.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (fBape)

241 (Opens refrigerator and looks lovingly at $1 bottle of mustard stamped USE BY 07-2013)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (aZuds)

242 188 I wonder if the goddess could be Athena
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Not likely. Athena was the goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, law and justice, strategic warfare, mathematics, strength, strategy, the arts, crafts, and skill.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (yRAFu)

243 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 10:25 AM (Kpl3J)
******
Yep

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM (BqBId)

244
Does Sondland think he is auditioning for the role of Frank Pentangeli in a "Godfather" remake?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM (pNxlR)

245 . I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)

Spinach cannot read dates. Use the sniff and feel test.

Also ewww veggies
*munches on bacon in self defense*

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM (G546f)

246
The Art Thread: pearls, swine, some assembly required.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM (1WVHz)

247 Per twatter:
"The inspector general said FBI lacked adequate staff, oversight and provided unclear guidance to conduct its operations involving confidential human sources.
The FBI used confidential human sources in its 2016 investigation of the Trump campaign. Halper and Steele."

Doesn't sound like a bunch of indictments to me.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM (U7k5w)

248 This Prince Andrew: Is he the same royal that people in the '80s used to call "Randy Andy"? Put another way, since there is probably only one Prince Andrew among the Windsors, did people nickname him that?

Posted by: Capt. Kirk at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (Ejm1K)

249 We are down to poor supervision.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (U7k5w)

250 The hands on the hips makes the painting comical to me no matter what its intention was .

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (Q5ALd)

251 Bagged spinach was never any good to begin with.

Notice Mesquite Barbecue Potato Chips never have these kind issues. /s

Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (wedPR)

252 I have some bagged spinach
which I haven't used and it says "Enjoy by 11-13". Will I not enjoy it-ie get the runs or something, or does that just mean it's best by that date?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (WI7YS)

--

Personally I don't think it's worth it, and I'll eat pretty much anything way after the date passes. I know more than a few people who have gotten sick after eating old bagged salad.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


As long as it hasn't turned slimy, you should be ok.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (fBape)

253 Does Sondland think he is auditioning for the role of Frank Pentangeli in a "Godfather" remake?

---------------

Please let Don Jr walk in with his brother and sit in the back.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (sX1BW)

254 Reading too much into this painting. Just a group of people asking for directions.
sock failure in aisle 232. sock failure in aisle 232.

Posted by: randus mcnallycus at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (vqIkG)

255 "The inspector general said FBI lacked adequate staff, oversight and provided unclear guidance
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So the IG met Strozk?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (yRAFu)

256 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM (1WVHz)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (WI7YS)

257 Thank you Kris. Excellent study of thsi painter that allowed me to go back and examine it further. I enjoy it very much. Sometime I enjoy art foe as ons I don't understand. This one. Colors, composition, figures and gestures keep me interested and I keep going back to it attempting to understand what they are thinking. You have helped. I might add that when I see hands on hips, and with a woman it has a slightly different connotation than with a man I believe, I see some mother-child connection. Not biologically but in wisdom. Like she might be attempting to explain at their level of understanding?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (oY5lM)

258 Reasons. Ugh.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:28 AM (oY5lM)

259 Hope the Republicans can point out that Sondland, and all the rest, disagree on Policy with Trump who happens to be the first US President to stand up to the corruption in Ukraine before sending them our tax payer funds. Obama refused to do anything about election meddling and Trump is getting to the bottom of it. Rudy might end up roadkill in all of this.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at November 20, 2019 10:28 AM (KSBDE)

260 251 Bagged spinach was never any good to begin with.

Notice Mesquite Barbecue Potato Chips never have these kind issues. /s
Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2019


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Amazing, isn't it, how spinach in a quiche is just fine, but the stuff by itself is a big turn-off?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 10:28 AM (Ejm1K)

261
200 posts and no booby talk? Are you guys ok?

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (Vbjl4)

262 A whole lot of presuming and assuming in Sondland's testimony

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (abQDf)

263 hey Cannibal Bob, how's da hip?
Are you a hipster now?

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)

264
Personally I don't think it's worth it, and I'll eat pretty much anything way after the date passes. I know more than a few people who have gotten sick after eating old bagged salad.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 10:24 AM (aZuds)


Tell me about it!

-- Huma Abdin

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (pNxlR)

265 The poor babies were understaffed and overworked. Nobody was supervising the poor senior level dearie doos. Now how, I ask you, can you call them criminals, the poor misguided thingies?

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (U7k5w)

266 216 The barefoot guy also is the only one without a brightly colored tunic.
-----------------
Hmm. Maybe he's the one who's dead and it's his tomb?
Posted by: Ohio lurking gal at November 20, 2019
*
That's interesting, especially as the other two men give no indication that they know he is there.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 10:20 AM (Ejm1K)

Or maybe he's just asleep on his feet because he frolicked with the sheep all night.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (Kpl3J)

267 261
200 posts and no booby talk? Are you guys ok?

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019


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*

We're tired. It's a long way until Friday.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Ejm1K)

268 Amazing, isn't it, how spinach in a quiche is just fine, but the stuff by itself is a big turn-off?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



I prefer a baby leaf spinach salad over any made with iceberg or romaine lettuce.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:30 AM (fBape)

269 267

We're tired. It's a long way until Friday.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Ejm1K)

=========

At work, we're having a Thanksgiving dip day with beer.

It's just about the only thing on my calendar for the day.

Maybe the best Wednesday ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:30 AM (q80AH)

270 Schiff-head : "You said Biden."

Sondland : "No I didn't."

Schiff-Head : "Yes you did."

Sondland denies this 7 more times. Schiff-head keeps repeating himself.

Sondland : "FINE! WILL YOU SHUT UP IF I SAY YES?"

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 10:31 AM (UnA8+)

271 I really like the idea that barefoot guy is the ghost of the guy buried under the stone.

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:32 AM (G546f)

272 248 Capt Kirk, *Randy Andy* was dating a porn girl named Koo Stark. I think he has always been an indiscreet troll.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 20, 2019 10:32 AM (a4qVe)

273
Tired? oh ok then.
Carry on!

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 10:32 AM (Vbjl4)

274 Can the prezdent just fire all these motherfuckers and start over?

I think this would have overwhelming support by the American people. Overwhelming support, enthusiasm, and grateful admiration and accolades.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2019 10:33 AM (wedPR)

275 242
188 I wonder if the goddess could be Athena

-------------

Not likely. Athena was the goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration,
civilization, law and justice, strategic warfare, mathematics,
strength, strategy, the arts, crafts, and skill.


arcade. video games. most of those are applicable.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2019 10:33 AM (sGtp+)

276 Ok, Theo, you go long down past the red Chevy and hook left; Mom, block the incoming rushers - give the big guy a forearm to the throat like last time; Alexander - a short jog out to the right - look for the pass when you get to the hash mark - you'll be primary.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 10:33 AM (Y4EXg)

277 I might add that when I see hands on hips, and with a woman it has a slightly different connotation than with a man I believe, I see some mother-child connection. Not biologically but in wisdom. Like she might be attempting to explain at their level of understanding?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (oY5lM)

I see the same thing, some kind of maternal connection. The boy in red is clearly the youngest of the group, not bearded like the man examining the inscription. And by putting her hand on him she is clearly expressing a level of affection, but in an adult/child manner.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 10:34 AM (Kpl3J)

278 I think Minerva is a reasonable interpretation for this woman. You need wisdom to comprehend the meaning of the inscription. The three men represent three different steps for obtaining wisdom: curiosity, inquiry, and acceptance/meditation.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:34 AM (OyyDO)

279 So the IG met Strozk?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 10:27 AM (yRAFu)

And blew him under the table. Horowitz is an Obama guy with roots in SDNY.

Posted by: CN at November 20, 2019 10:34 AM (U7k5w)

280 I was able to zoom in on the painting and the inscription reads: Be sure to drink your Ovaltine

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 10:35 AM (abQDf)

281 The wreath thing is really starting to bother me. Given how influential the Catholic Church was on the baroque period, I want to say that the men with wreaths are saints, the wreaths symbolizing victory over death. The red tunic symbolizes martyrdom. The woman would then likely be the Virgin Mary, but doesn't really have any of her symbols either.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 10:36 AM (O+iVW)

282 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. I like this picture.
Goes looking for coffee

Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2019 10:36 AM (axyOa)

283 263 hey Cannibal Bob, how's da hip?
Are you a hipster now?

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)

A miracle of science VM. God gives doctors more and more technology to work with, and I hope the Dems don't fuck it up. PT had me walking with a walker about 30 minutes after i woke up. I was wobbly but hey. Left the surg. Center 30 min. After that. Little to zero pain, small incision, and now walking confidently with walker. Expect to ditch that by Monday for follow up. i had 2 knees done at once. this is nothing. Thank you for checking on me.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:36 AM (oY5lM)

284 I don't think I've seen art talk so dominate an art thread like this.

Impressive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:36 AM (q80AH)

285 At work, we're having a Thanksgiving dip day with beer.

It's just about the only thing on my calendar for the day.

Maybe the best Wednesday ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison




Please tell me you are bringing the Cherokee Land Crab dip?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:37 AM (fBape)

286 I prefer a baby leaf spinach salad over any made with iceberg or romaine lettuce.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:30 AM (fBape)

Spinach salad with a warm bacon dressing! (vinagrette) Yes, it's real and it's wonderful.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 10:37 AM (Kpl3J)

287 285
Please tell me you are bringing the Cherokee Land Crab dip?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:37 AM (fBape)

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I brought the beer.

I didn't have to do anything for it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:37 AM (q80AH)

288
University of Michigan fan consoles Ohio State fan.

(Hey, this is historical and not present day, okay?)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:38 AM (pNxlR)

289 259 stellastwocents "the first president to stand up to ukraine's corruption before sending them taxpayer's dollars..."

good point and it's consistent with trump's policy toward nato, that they have to pay their share or we walk, and generally with his america first policy.

Posted by: mjc at November 20, 2019 10:38 AM (Pg+x7)

290 Hey, OT but...can someone point me to information regarding Trump's side of the story regarding the Atlantic City casino that failed? Google searches and such turn up politicized emotionally charged stuff. Looking for cold facts. i know that his contractor, Perini, was itself rather corrupt. Curious as to the details, the basic facts.

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 10:39 AM (66rlH)

291 Impressive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:36 AM (q80AH)

You can blame Kris for this. We're being nice cuz we don't wanna get yelled at.

Posted by: Hide me! at November 20, 2019 10:39 AM (vqIkG)

292 She looks like the Statue of Liberty

Posted by: JoeF. at November 20, 2019 10:39 AM (CqE5x)

293 Cannibal Bob, and you didn't even have to slap a hot iron on it? Impressive!!!

Keep walking and heal.fast.

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (G546f)

294 She is not with the men because her clothes and body language are different, and the men seem to defer to her.


I wish I could have been here for the whole thread. Thanks, Kris.

The way she's draping her hand on that guy is very familiar, very comfortable. I don't think they are afraid of her. She may be an authority figure, but everyone is copacetic.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at link in nic at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (wzVKm)

295 146
This one is easy.

One of the features that gives away the
meaning is the small shrub, cast in shadow, at the right of the picture.
Death blights every hope, even of the young. The other is, of course,
the unusual growth pattern of the tree directly behind the stone
structure. There are no large branches on it until it gets to abut head
height, and then it demonstrates a dense brush of shrt heavily leafed
branches, quite different from the long, clean-limbed boles of its
confreres just behind. It's almost as though it has be pollarded, but in
Arcadia, that would be unusual. Likely, it has been struck by a falling
limb from its neighbors and injured. Even a brush with death radically
alters life.


sure, sure. and see those trees way in the back? how they have very few leaves? like they're the grandparents with very little life left.


Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (sGtp+)

296
Were that Athena, I'd expect her to be wearing a helmet, what with Goddess of War and all that.

She is Psychochromia, Goddess of Small Slams and Drawing to An Inside Straight.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (pNxlR)

297 I think Minerva is a reasonable interpretation for this woman. You need wisdom to comprehend the meaning of the inscription. The three men represent three different steps for obtaining wisdom: curiosity, inquiry, and acceptance/meditation.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:34 AM (OyyDO)

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From the rest of the context, I initially thought "Nyx." She's also pallorous by comparison to the men.

But it's in daylight, and she's always depicted wearing black and blue (if anything at all), so I doubt it.

The chick is the mystery in this one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (5aX2M)

298 You know what? As odious as Comey and Brennan are, Schiff has got them both beat. He is truly disgusting and the deference that the media shows him is sickening.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM (CqE5x)

299 "Kilroy was here"? Whattsat mean?

Posted by: klaftern at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM (RuIsu)

300 In my car in traffics. What is going on at the bullshit hearing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM (7Oc9e)

301 Nicholas Poussin was one of the most influential painters of the Baroque era.

Influential? Pffft! The guy was a chicken when it came to art.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (ejd/p)

Perhaps, but he had the ear of the king, and his style would be THE accepted style for the French Royal Academy. The French Academy essentially set the bar for art for the next 200 years. Including the American ones even after the Revolution.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 09:40 AM


*sigh*

Influential? Pffft! The guy was a chicken when it came to art.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 09:37 AM (ejd/p)

He was only a chicken when he was young.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:43 AM


At least Fen got it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM (ejd/p)

302 The goddess is actually Zeus in disguise.

He's waiting for the men to leave so he can bone the stone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM (q80AH)

303 She is not with the men because her clothes and body language are different, and the men seem to defer to her.


I wish I could have been here for the whole thread. Thanks, Kris.

The way she's draping her hand on that guy is very familiar, very comfortable. I don't think they are afraid of her. She may be an authority figure, but everyone is copacetic.
Posted by: Bandersnatch


She's an angel. The guy on the far left is dead. His two buddies just buried him.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM (fBape)

304 So it appears that Sondeland got the memo, you will have no post Trump prospects unless you play ball with our shampeachment efforts.


All these people need smacked.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 10:42 AM (f7vuZ)

305
She's an angel. The guy on the far left is dead. His two buddies just buried him.
Posted by: rickb223


Mostly dead. And not a suicide!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:42 AM (pNxlR)

306
@CalebJHull

Schiff keeps saying he doesn't want to talk about the text message...

Well, here's the text message he doesn't want to talk about:

https://tinyurl.com/ruqzt2z

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (wiXsO)

307 265 The poor babies were understaffed and overworked. Nobody was supervising the poor senior level dearie doos. Now how, I ask you, can you call them criminals, the poor misguided thingies?
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This is how you turn a turd into a Popsicle - you fucked up cuz you didn't have enough staff - so the answer is more staff. Big Government knows how fail upwards.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (yRAFu)

308 Does Sondland think he is auditioning for the role of Frank Pentangeli in a "Godfather" remake?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:26 AM


Someone should remind him how that ended.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (ejd/p)

309 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:36 AM (oY5lM)

dang! great results!
Have a buddy that had to have a hip replacement in his 40s (skateboarder from the 70s) and once it was done and he was getting around 2-3 months later they called him in to tell the 'appliance' had been recalled and would have to be replaced.

He cried...until they mentioned he would not have to pay a dime, would get full PT AND $100,000.

Glad to report he is fine and has a much nicer house and keeps his surfing to the oceans.

Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (XTiHL)

310 Quid pro quo is how foreign policy is supposed to work. It makes me postal that they are trying to make it something nefarious.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 10:22 AM (Q5ALd)

I heard Andy McCarthy say that they just should have owned up to Quid Quo Pro from the beginning.

Now Schiff thinks he's got Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (CqE5x)

311 70 doesn't this painting have something to do with the 'Holy Grail' / DaVinci code nonsense?
Yep. Check out the Wiki for the Priory of Sion.

Posted by: Captain Ned at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (XIfux)

312 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:37 AM (q80AH)

Hey TJM, thanks for the reminder of War and Peace. Just downloaded it. Funny question I guess but is there anything I should keep in mind while reading it?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (oY5lM)

313 Hey, OT but...can someone point me to information
regarding Trump's side of the story regarding the Atlantic City casino
that failed? Google searches and such turn up politicized emotionally
charged stuff. Looking for cold facts. i know that his contractor,
Perini, was itself rather corrupt. Curious as to the details, the basic
facts.

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 10:39 AM (66rlH)

who cares? I am not sure what casino you are referring to. I remember Trump Marina, Trump International (or something like that) and Trump Taj Mahal. I think AC has had a lot of problems over the years. There has been an explosion of casino gambling around the country and near NJ. They have casino gambling in MD, WV, PA, etc. So of course AC has lost some lustre.

I mean, it is AC. Again, what is your point?

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (n13/j)

314 Oooh... no shit... I think the tree in the background is an olive. That might be Athena.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (5aX2M)

315 CNBC already preaching about Sondland's testimony that there was quid pro quo. Sondland originally supported Jeb. Guess this is payback.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (ZZDMQ)

316 I GOT IT!

Barefoot guy is a ghost, right, and therefore represents death.

That means the woman is the tax collector!

Coz Death and Taxes.

Death: I am in Arcadia
Taxes: I am ALSO in Arcadia

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (G546f)

317 298 You know what? As odious as Comey and Brennan are, Schiff has got them both beat. He is truly disgusting and the deference that the media shows him is sickening.
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Thats cuz Schiff has Soros on speed dial.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (yRAFu)

318
Somebody above said Sondland flipped. I don't think so; isn't he the guy that said, in effect, "there's always a quid pro quo. Get used to it."??
The vibe I get is he's just brutally frank and doesn't give a shit who doesn't like it.

Has PDT roasted him in a tweet yet?

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 10:45 AM (Vbjl4)

319 300 Captain NGU, I will address you as Captain, a traffic jam is more fun.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 10:45 AM (C1Lsn)

320 the best goddess story is Peisistratos' attempt to make himself tyrant in Athens. he found some six foot farm girl, put armour on her, and staged a triumphal entry with "Athena".

He got laughed out of the city. (he came back later.) Herodotus remembered this as the most stupid political stunt in the city 's history.

I hope the girl at least found a gig modeling for statuary.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 10:45 AM (I1age)

321 Two guys making shadow puppets while the third man blurps out a sneaky swalwell.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 20, 2019 10:46 AM (9c5tq)

322 Should we really be designing the front triple load washer in granite before we have plumbing?

Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2019 10:46 AM (FhXTo)

323 @CalebJHull

Schiff keeps saying he doesn't want to talk about the text message...

Well, here's the text message he doesn't want to talk about:

https://tinyurl.com/ruqzt2z
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (wiXsO)

Is this authentic?

If so, no wonder Schiff doesn't want to talk about it.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 20, 2019 10:46 AM (CqE5x)

324 Yay GoreBull warming! We are getting some rain here in CA.

Woot!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 10:46 AM (qC1Sy)

325 A bunch of AC casinos failed
Blame NJ

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:46 AM (G546f)

326 Two guys making shadow puppets while the third man blurps out a sneaky swalwell.
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 20, 2019 10:46 AM (9c5tq)

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Ok, I laughed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:47 AM (5aX2M)

327 I GOT IT!

Barefoot guy is a ghost, right, and therefore represents death.
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Like McCartney on the cover of Abbey Road?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 20, 2019 10:47 AM (CqE5x)

328 293 Cannibal Bob, and you didn't even have to slap a hot iron on it? Impressive!!!

Keep walking and heal.fast.

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (G546f)

Tennis is again an option!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (oY5lM)

329 Rudy might end up roadkill in all of this.
Posted by: StellasTwoCents at November 20, 2019 10:28 AM (KSBDE)


Why? I doubt he's done anything illegal and DJT likes him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (y7DUB)

330 lol, now i look it up, apparently the stunt worked. at first.

peisistratos got kicked out because he had an alliance with some other politician and wouldn't bang his daughter.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (I1age)

331 Cannibal Bob, I didn't know you had hip surgery. Glad you are doing so well.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (BLT3V)

332 " mean, it is AC. Again, what is your point?"

I'm not making a point, I'm just asking a question. I'm looking for his side of the story. Why be a dick about simply asking a question?

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (66rlH)

333
Yikes.. Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)

334 "Kilroy was here"? Whattsat mean?
Posted by: klaftern at November 20, 2019 10:41 AM


Sigh. Despite CBD's and Kris' best efforts, not all roads lead to classical appreciation.

ET EPSTEINIVS NON COMMITTERE MORS VOLVNTARIA

Posted by: Gaius Kilroynius at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (qzF84)

335 329 Rudy might end up roadkill in all of this.
Posted by: StellasTwoCents at November 20, 2019 10:28 AM (KSBDE)

Why? I doubt he's done anything illegal and DJT likes him.
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He cleaned up NYC and supported Trump. He is Evil.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (yRAFu)

336 Yikes.. Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)

Yes, but relax

Posted by: JoeF. at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (CqE5x)

337 312 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:37 AM (q80AH)

Hey TJM, thanks for the reminder of War and Peace. Just downloaded it. Funny question I guess but is there anything I should keep in mind while reading it?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:44 AM (oY5lM)

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I'm no expert, but I would just suggest finding a way to keep the names straight. Tolstoy can refer to the same character a few different ways (from nick names to formal titles to Christian names) all in the same paragraph.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

338 DJT likes him.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (y7DUB)

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That's a criminal count in Swampworld.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (5aX2M)

339 I wish Joe Pesci's character from My Cousin Vinny was asking questions during the impeachment hearing.

OK, back to the art.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (OyyDO)

340 338 DJT likes him.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (y7DUB)

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That's a criminal count in Swampworld.

Ain't that the truth

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (6XlcD)

341 Yay GoreBull warming! We are getting some rain here in CA.

Woot!
Posted by: blake


Yay!

Mudslides!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (fBape)

342 >>Yikes.. Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?

I thought we were doing bribery today? Quid pro quo is so two weeks ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (ZLI7S)

343 339 I wish Joe Pesci's character from My Cousin Vinny was asking questions during the impeachment hearing.

The Yutes... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (6XlcD)

344 Guliani is Commissioner Gordon to Trump's Batman

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:52 AM (G546f)

345 Yikes.. Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?

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Sondland started off strong (relatively speaking) for the Dems, but he is weakening, and I suspect by the end of the day will be useless.

Posted by: SH at November 20, 2019 10:52 AM (sX1BW)

346 342 >>Yikes.. Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?

I thought we were doing bribery today? Quid pro quo is so two weeks ago.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (ZLI7S)

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All I know is that impeachment is going to happen because a guy who takes top secret phone calls about potentially illegal acts in public spaces says that he has bad feelings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:52 AM (q80AH)

347 Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)


Ignore those monkey spankers. They're like a Bizzarro world Patterico level of density.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 10:52 AM (y7DUB)

348 I'm no expert, but I would just suggest finding a way to keep the names straight. Tolstoy can refer to the same character a few different ways (from nick names to formal titles to Christian names) all in the same paragraph.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

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I bought a copy from a hobo in NYC, and it had a key printed in the foreword. I don't know if they all have that or not.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:53 AM (5aX2M)

349 I just looked at lot of other paintings by Poussin and the phrase that came to mind was: he knows how to make use of color both as a symbol and to create a realistic impression, but he doesn't rely on it as a way to impress the viewer.

A minor point perhaps, but it is mine. :-)

Posted by: JTB at November 20, 2019 10:53 AM (bmdz3)

350 293 Cannibal Bob, and you didn't even have to slap a hot iron on it? Impressive!!!

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 20, 2019 10:40 AM (G546f)

I was never ours about Heidi with that, SnceI was like and injured wilderbeast. I'd have no chance of out running her.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:54 AM (oY5lM)

351 I'm no expert, but I would just suggest finding a way to keep the names straight. Tolstoy can refer to the same character a few different ways (from nick names to formal titles to Christian names) all in the same paragraph.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

I think it's a Russian thing. When reading Solzhenitsyn, it took me several pages to figure out that the characters have several different names: a first name, a formal family name, and a name based on their father's that was used informally. And then the nick-names popped in every so often.

Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:54 AM (OyyDO)

352 The only way the republicans can save the day in these hearings is to focus solely on Hunter Biden.

Start by saying:

"Ambassador, as you know Barisma hired Hunter Biden, son the then Vice President of the United States, paying him approximately 83 thousand dollars a month. When this Ukrainian company hired him, Hunter was an alcoholic, a drug addict and was just recently thrown out of the Navy Reserve for drug use. He didn't speak the language and had no experience in the energy business."

"Apparently, Hunter Biden's only qualification was that he was the son of Joe Biden, who had responsibility for policy in Ukraine."

"No agency investigated this blaring conflict of interest. No news media bothered to look into this blatant act of corruption."

"Don't you believe that the President would be remiss in his duties if he didn't call for an investigation into this obviously rotten arrangement?"

Everyone after this statement needs to hammer on Hunter being an alcoholic and drug addict.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 10:54 AM (U6f/q)

353 >>All I know is that impeachment is going to happen because a guy who takes top secret phone calls about potentially illegal acts in public spaces says that he has bad feelings.

Here we go again with someone who never was told by Trump that there was any deal, he just made an assumption.

Lot of that going around.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 10:55 AM (ZLI7S)

354 347 Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)

Ignore those monkey spankers. They're like a Bizzarro world Patterico level of density.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 10:52 AM (y7DUB)

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Haven't been there in a while. Is Sundance still an arrogant sanctimonious little shit?

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 10:55 AM (Lyh9/)

355 Well, if you read Drudge, its closing time for Trump. Again.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 10:55 AM (a0IVu)

356
I'm no expert, but I would just suggest finding a way to keep the names straight. Tolstoy can refer to the same character a few different ways (from nick names to formal titles to Christian names) all in the same paragraph.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

Whoa, remembering multiple characters with foreign names is not my forte, Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (oY5lM)

357 Manhattan Tolstoy Hobo is best hobo.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (I1age)

358 348 I'm no expert, but I would just suggest finding a way to keep the names straight. Tolstoy can refer to the same character a few different ways (from nick names to formal titles to Christian names) all in the same paragraph.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

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I bought a copy from a hobo in NYC, and it had a key printed in the foreword. I don't know if they all have that or not.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:53 AM (5aX2M)

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That's actually kinda funny. A key for names.

But a bigger thought about War and Peace:

It's amazing at how simply entertaining the book is. It's full of high emotions, battles, balls, infidelities, and such. It's got this big reputation as unreadable because of its reputation and size, and I don't think it fits. The book is a task because of its size, but it's fun at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (q80AH)

359 I also got a good book on Meiji Japan from that hobo, but I forget what it was called. Dang.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (5aX2M)

360 351 I think it's a Russian thing. When reading Solzhenitsyn, it took me several pages to figure out that the characters have several different names: a first name, a formal family name, and a name based on their father's that was used informally. And then the nick-names popped in every so often.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019 10:54 AM (OyyDO)

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The only other Russian novelist I've read is Dostoevsky, and he did the exact same thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (q80AH)

361 if you read Drudge, you have too much time on your hands.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (I1age)

362 Well, I was back but gotta go again. The fiber optic crew is here with a heavy duty machine to free up the other one they got stuck yesterday. Some day I may actually get fiber optic service.

Keep yer hand on it, Horde.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (fE1wp)

363 VM. Damn auto cucumber. UGH.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (oY5lM)

364 Seen elsewhere:

It's a mistake to vote for any candidate for any office except for a straight white man.

Every other variety is protected from criticism by liberal race, sex and class doctrine. You're racist, sexist or classist if you dare to criticize them.

So, if you want accountability from public officials, you must vote for straight white men.

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (3aI0K)

365 Well, if you read Drudge, its closing time for Trump. Again.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 10:55 AM (a0IVu)

So which time was Sondland lying? Today or the other testimony where he says no quid pro quo?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (6XlcD)

366 It's amazing at how simply entertaining the book is. It's full of high emotions, battles, balls, infidelities, and such. It's got this big reputation as unreadable because of its reputation and size, and I don't think it fits. The book is a task because of its size, but it's fun at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM


I haven't actually read War and Peace yet. I may have to now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (ejd/p)

367 361 if you read Drudge, you have too much time on your hands.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (I1age)

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Agreed. Drudge has gone off the deep end.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (Lyh9/)

368 366
I haven't actually read War and Peace yet. I may have to now.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (ejd/p)

==========

Read 40 pages a day, and you're done in a month.

That's a lot for a single book, but in the end, you've read a great book.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (q80AH)

369 Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)
******
ProTip Stay away from CTH They are batshit crazy

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (BqBId)

370 I don't read Drudge - just glance at the headlines to see what has his panties in wad this time.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (a0IVu)

371 355 Well, if you read Drudge, its closing time for Trump. Again.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 10:55 AM (a0IVu)

The wheels are closing in on the walls that are coming off!!!!1!!

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (J+mig)

372 369 Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)
******
ProTip Stay away from CTH They are batshit crazy
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (BqBId)

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Aka, "the Cult of Sundance"

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (Lyh9/)

373 I also got a good book on Meiji Japan from that hobo, but I forget what it was called. Dang.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

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My Life with Mutsuhito?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 20, 2019 10:59 AM (Y4EXg)

374 Haven't been there in a while. Is Sundance still an arrogant sanctimonious little shit?
Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 10:55 AM (Lyh9/)


I assume so but have no recent first hand knowledge.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 10:59 AM (y7DUB)

375 Keep yer hand on it, Horde.
Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (fE1wp)


That's what SHE said.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 10:59 AM (9VeU0)

376 339 I wish Joe Pesci's character from My Cousin Vinny was asking questions during the impeachment hearing.

OK, back to the art.
Posted by: Kris at November 20, 2019


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Or from Goodfellas.

Schiff: "I'm funny? Funny how? Just how am I funny to you? Am I comical or what? Funny how?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 10:59 AM (Ejm1K)

377 Aka, "the Cult of Sundance"
Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM (Lyh9/)
******
Their God is a Publix Store Manager

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (BqBId)

378  if you read Drudge, you have too much time on your hands. 
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 20, 2019 10:56 AM (I1age) 


So many people here get worked up by what cnn or MSNBC or Drudge says.

They are Dem fronts.

But omg!!!! Did you see what they said?!!!

Posted by: Wut at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (Q5eBq)

379 I live and work in deep blue CA and even the lefties I work with have tuned this whole thing out..its all about getting ready for thanksgiving and christmas. Dems should have started their impeachment nonsense in January.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (a0IVu)

380 "I think it's a Russian thing."

Definitely. Anna Karenina was not too bad about that but I made a point, after previously giving up on The Idiot, to keep a running list of characters and all of their various names.

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (66rlH)

381 Read 40 pages a day, and you're done in a month.

That's a lot for a single book, but in the end, you've read a great book.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM


This plan has merit. And winter is coming. And I have a chair by the fireplace.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (ejd/p)

382 Sometimes you're hungry for knowledge.

Sometimes you're just hungry.

Either way, hobos fit the bill.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (5aX2M)

383 379 I live and work in deep blue CA and even the lefties I work with have tuned this whole thing out..its all about getting ready for thanksgiving and christmas. Dems should have started their impeachment nonsense in January.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (a0IVu)

==========

Fodder for my idea that this will go away as soon as the campaign season actually begins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (q80AH)

384 @370

Drudge no longer runs his site, he sold out a four years ago to an web ad company owned by Google.


The Drudge Report exists in name only.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (f7vuZ)

385 354 347 Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this true?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 10:49 AM (6XlcD)


There are some republicans who are so stupid that they accept the premise that if Trump called for an investigation into Barisma and Biden, it was for the benefit of his campaign.

Our side needs to take the position that any investigation into Barisma and Biden was Trump's duty as president to investigate corruption and to insure no foreign aid given to still corrupt governments.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (U6f/q)

386 Sondland literally and emphatically said today that Trump told him no quid pro quo.

Who cares what anyone says about his testimony. You can hear it for yourself.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (ZLI7S)

387 381 Read 40 pages a day, and you're done in a month.

That's a lot for a single book, but in the end, you've read a great book.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 10:58 AM

This plan has merit. And winter is coming. And I have a chair by the fireplace.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (ejd/p)

==========

It's how I did it. I gave myself a deadline (the day my copy of Bondarchuk's Soviet adaptation was to come in the mail some weeks later), and said to myself that I wasn't going to watch it until I finished the book. I finished about a week before the movie came.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:02 AM (q80AH)

388 Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (ZLI7S)
*******
But But But The Cult of the Publix Store Manager said

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:02 AM (BqBId)

389 WE HAVE THE TRANSCRIPT

Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 11:02 AM (7eoML)

390 341 Yay GoreBull warming! We are getting some rain here in CA.

Woot!
Posted by: blake


Yay!

Mudslides!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (fBape)

They got riots, fires and mud slides
They got sushi in the mall
Water bars and Brontosaurs
Chinese modern lust
Shake and bake life with the quake
The secret's in the crust

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2019 11:02 AM (JFO2v)

391 342
>>Yikes.. Over at Conservative tree house some are ready to jump
off the roof saying Sondland says there was a quid pro quo... Is this
true?



I thought we were doing bribery today? Quid pro quo is so two weeks ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 10:51 AM (ZLI7S)


No don't do the bribery this week.

Posted by: $500m Palletized Cash at November 20, 2019 11:02 AM (ymnmz)

392 No hits for Drudge. Reading https://thelibertydaily.com/ as suggested by Ace the other day. Very good site.

Posted by: dingbat at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (Qkbqn)

393 So a transcript of a call between the President and a foreign leader isn't reliable, and prone to forgery, BUT the hand-written notes of FBI agents is literally gospel.

Got it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (KUaJL)

394 380 "I think it's a Russian thing."

Definitely. Anna Karenina was not too bad about that but I made a point, after previously giving up on The Idiot, to keep a running list of characters and all of their various names.
Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019


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A college lit class forced me to read Notes From Underground. At least it was short. I find I vastly prefer Woody Allen's parody, "Notes From the Overfed." ("I am fat. I am disgustingly fat. . . .")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (Ejm1K)

395 368 366
I haven't actually read War and Peace yet. I may have to now.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (ejd/p)

==========

Read 40 pages a day, and you're done in a month.

That's a lot for a single book, but in the end, you've read a great book.
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The problem becomes one of focus. I still haven't finished Quiet Flows the Don, Anna Karenina, and Brothers Karamazov cuz life keeps getting in the way. Same with Tristan Shandy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (yRAFu)

396
Who cares what anyone says about his testimony. You can hear it for yourself.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (ZLI7S)

I can't.... My BP is too high...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (6XlcD)

397 @317
Remember that Schiff was related by marriage to Soros. Never mentioned, for some reason.

Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (AwPyG)

398 I haven't actually read War and Peace yet. I may have to now.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (ejd/p)


I haven't read it in 20 years (it was the first book the book group I'm in tackled) but only the sheer size has prevented a reread.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (y7DUB)

399 362
Well, I was back but gotta go again. The fiber optic crew is here with a
heavy duty machine to free up the other one they got stuck yesterday.
Some day I may actually get fiber optic service.


i've seen this film before. it doesn't end well.

Posted by: Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly at November 20, 2019 11:04 AM (sGtp+)

400
Glad to report he is fine and has a much nicer house and keeps his surfing to the oceans.

Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2019 10:43 AM (XTiHL)

Excellent DM. Coulda had my knees replaced in my 40's. I was bow legged, played tennis, martial arts, blah blah so wore them out. But then the knees didn't last very long and replacement was guaranteed. Luckily I was an Ortho-surgical rep and had custom knee braces made for athletes and used them to play sports and forestall the replacement so had them done 6 years ago,. I asked if they had had any recalls on the hardware he was using. Nope.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 11:05 AM (oY5lM)

401 395 The problem becomes one of focus. I still haven't finished Quiet Flows the Don, Anna Karenina, and Brothers Karamazov cuz life keeps getting in the way. Same with Tristan Shandy.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (yRAFu)

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I've read three of those! Anna, Brothers, and Tristram.

Ever seen the movie adaption of Tristram Shandy? Stars Steve Coogan as Tristan and...himself. It's meta, and quite fun. It's how I decided to read the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIMQQPdwns

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:05 AM (q80AH)

402 They got riots, fires and mud slides
They got sushi in the mall
Water bars and Brontosaurs
Chinese modern lust
Shake and bake life with the quake
The secret's in the crust
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2019


*
*

"There's a holdup in the Bronx,
Brooklyn's broken out in fights;
There's a traffic jam in Harlem
That's backed up to Jackson Heights.
There's a Scout troop short a child,
Khrushchev's due at Idlewild --

Car 54, Where Are You?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:05 AM (Ejm1K)

403 379 I live and work in deep blue CA and even the lefties I work with have tuned this whole thing out..its all about getting ready for thanksgiving and christmas. Dems should have started their impeachment nonsense in January.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2019 11:00 AM (a0IVu)


Maybe CA is not as far gone as we all think. In Vermont it seems to be the talk of the town. People here are convinced Trump is gone and the only thing left to discuss is the timing. I even had a contractor client take a couple of days off from work to watch the nonsense on the TV - then breathless ask me if I was following it. The holidays are not even on the radar from what I can tell.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 20, 2019 11:06 AM (kUmUV)

404 Our side needs to take the position that any investigation into Barisma and Biden was Trump's duty as president to investigate corruption and to insure no foreign aid given to still corrupt governments.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:01 AM (U6f/q)


My good man, Failure Theater wasn't built on a foundation of such adherence to facts and principles.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 11:06 AM (y7DUB)

405 Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2019 11:03 AM (6XlcD)
*******
So you read the doom blog?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:06 AM (BqBId)

406 Sondland testifies Trump said "no quid pro quo".

Schiff looks like he just swallowed a frog...

https://tinyurl.com/qlvomsu

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 11:07 AM (so+oy)

407 She's an angel. The guy on the far left is dead. His two buddies just buried him.


Not in that crypt, it's old and cracked.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at link in nic at November 20, 2019 11:07 AM (wzVKm)

408 Boy, I dunno... it really looks to me as of she just said, "OK, Boomer".

Posted by: jdm at November 20, 2019 11:07 AM (P9DvC)

409 Remember that Schiff was related by marriage to Soros. Never mentioned, for some reason.
Posted by: artemis


Soros and Schiff are married? Well ain't that a queer one!

(Johnny Carson voice) I did not know that!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 20, 2019 11:07 AM (vcOmj)

410 The only reason the House hasn't impeached Trump as of last January is because they don't have the votes.

Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (AwPyG)

411 Just got done xmas shopping for the granddaughter. Who knew Archie comics would be so popular in 2019.
"Southside serpents gear gramps!"
Slow as I am, it took me a few minutes to realize it was tan updated Jughead, Archie, Veronica in "Riverdale"

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (Fxgkp)

412 Sondland testifies at the impeachment hearing that he asked @realDonaldTrump "What do you want from Ukraine?" He says that Trump abruptly replied "I want nothing, I want nothing, I want no quid pro quo, just tell Zelensky to do the right thing."

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (BqBId)

413 "A college lit class forced me to read Notes From Underground."

What I find amusing about Anna Karenina is that many women read it in college (including my wife who recommended it to me). Occasionally the subject comes up when discussing books (not something I often do but this one was a fav), I like to point out that Tolstoy was on record as saying he conceived of Anna as a fallen woman not, as was becoming the thing with the rise of communism, as a heroine. Some women who read it in college want to argue with me about it, but I'm always impressed by the women who did not know this and I get to see the lights come on. Many felt the exact same way as Tolstoy but were intimidated by their teachers to believe that they were wrong.

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (66rlH)

414 Ever seen the movie adaption of Tristram Shandy? Stars Steve Coogan as Tristan and...himself. It's meta, and quite fun. It's how I decided to read the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIMQQPdwns
------------------
Not yet, but I look forward to seeing it. Currently I'm entangled in reading Charles Portis. The man is likely the greatest American writer of the second half of the 20th C. Now into Masters of Atlantis. Can't stop laughing. I also dread finishing Gringoes cuz there will be no more Portis.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (yRAFu)

415 The only reason the House hasn't impeached Trump as of last January is because they don't have the votes.
Posted by: artemis


They don't have the votes because they don't have a reason.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:09 AM (fBape)

416 @409

Soros' son was married to Schiff's sister.

Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2019 11:09 AM (AwPyG)

417 >>The only reason the House hasn't impeached Trump as of last January is because they don't have the votes.

And they don't have the votes because if they do impeach him over this weak shit Nancy is in danger of losing her gavel.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:09 AM (ZLI7S)

418 410 The only reason the House hasn't impeached Trump as of last January is because they don't have the votes.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2019


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They'd have gone for it in January 2017 if they'd had the House then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:09 AM (Ejm1K)

419
i've seen this film before. it doesn't end well
********
Yes. The first machine has struck a buried meteorite possessed by the soul of an ancient race of sentient snow sharks. The second machine will free him, unleashing a hilariously cliched Armageddon of gore, boobies, plot holes and tired cliches. Our only hope is the senile rasta shaman Ace keeps locked in the basement.
Or something

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Vbjl4)

420 " mean, it is AC. Again, what is your point?"



I'm not making a point, I'm just asking a question. I'm looking for
his side of the story. Why be a dick about simply asking a question?

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 10:48 AM (66rlH)

Why call me a dick when I asked the point? Is this news of some kind?

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (n13/j)

421 @415
Exactly, hence this attempt to find a reason so that those who are holdouts have cover.

Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (AwPyG)

422 How did Nunes manage to get elected in California?

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Uu+Jp)

423 I think whoever said in the comments that they should have just admitted to Quid Pro Quo had it right. Then relentlessly point who and how many times the Dems insist on all that Pork put into bills before they will sign it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (oY5lM)

424 Remember that Schiff was related by marriage to Soros. Never mentioned, for some reason.
Posted by: artemis


Soros and Schiff are married? Well ain't that a queer one!

(Johnny Carson voice) I did not know that!
Posted by: Bozo Conservative


Shiff is boning Soros' daughter.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (fBape)

425 417 >>The only reason the House hasn't impeached Trump as of last January is because they don't have the votes.

And they don't have the votes because if they do impeach him over this weak shit Nancy is in danger of losing her gavel.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:09 AM (ZLI7S)

===========

I think she's already guaranteed to lose it for letting impeachment dominate the Congress for the entirety.

Red district Democrats won't be able to point to anything that they did. And, when constituents ask them about their promises to not pursue impeachment in Congress, these critters won't have a good alibi, especially when they voted for the procedures.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (q80AH)

426 This is going so very badly, I'm starting to believe the GOP could actually have a shot at taking back the House...IF, Kevin McCarthy would come out FOR the President, and not just against the process.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Fxgkp)

427 If the Dems can hang on to the house in 2020 (which should be impossible given the last two years, but it sadly isn't), I wonder if Nancy loses the gavel anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:12 AM (I2dne)

428
Seen elsewhere:



It's a mistake to vote for any candidate for any office except for a straight white man.



Every other variety is protected from criticism by liberal race, sex
and class doctrine. You're racist, sexist or classist if you dare to
criticize them.



So, if you want accountability from public officials, you must vote for straight white men.

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 10:57 AM (3aI0K)

Been my thinking all along actually.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2019 11:12 AM (9Om/r)

429 422 How did Nunes manage to get elected in California?
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He's a dairy farmer so he knows how to handle wine moms.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 11:12 AM (yRAFu)

430 When will the republicans learn that if they act like Quid Pro Quo is a crime, then everyone will think it is.

The best defense is to say "yeah, no money until you clean up your act".

Fucking idiots.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 11:12 AM (U6f/q)

431
dammit, doubled up on "cliche", which is...cliched.

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (Vbjl4)

432 IF, Kevin McCarthy would come out FOR the President, and not just against the process.
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 20, 2019


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*

I liked his work in the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (Ejm1K)

433 Just got done xmas shopping for the granddaughter. Who knew Archie comics would be so popular in 2019.
"Southside serpents gear gramps!"
Slow as I am, it took me a few minutes to realize it was tan updated Jughead, Archie, Veronica in "Riverdale"
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster

........

I thought they killed off Archie!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (so+oy)

434 431
dammit, doubled up on "cliche", which is...cliched.
Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (Vbjl4)

==========

Well, head off those cliches at the pass.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (q80AH)

435 See ole' Vindy showed up to work today at the White House...in a suit. Why is he still working there? Or anywhere in the Govt?

Posted by: dingbat at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (Qkbqn)

436 I think the BS claim that Sondland said Trump asked for a quid pro quo is coming from reading the media. "I've been online doing some browsing and the yahoo and other sites are screaming that Sondland just said that Trump demanded a quid pro quo.

It's why everyone is asking what the hell is going on.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (v2Axo)

437 I thought they killed off Archie!"

They kinda did. Last I saw it in the supermarket, picked it up for old times sake, it was full-on woke. Not the Archie I remember.

Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019 11:14 AM (66rlH)

438 Just got done xmas shopping for the granddaughter. Who knew Archie comics would be so popular in 2019.
"Southside serpents gear gramps!"
Slow as I am, it took me a few minutes to realize it was tan updated Jughead, Archie, Veronica in "Riverdale"
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster

........

I thought they killed off Archie!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


He came out and moved off to San Francisco.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:14 AM (fBape)

439 Update: This is a big problem for Schiff:


Kelly O'Donnell
@KellyO
SONDLAND TESTIMONY:
He says Pres. never spoke about military aid as a condition to him "EVER" but he came to learn by Sept 8th that 'EVERYONE" knew and "I was absolutely convinced it was"


This isn't even hearsay on the quid pro quo for military aid. It's opinion and gossip.

===========

That's from Ed at Hot Air.

This thing is dead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:14 AM (q80AH)

440 Ignore the media.

https://tinyurl.com/tuh6r36

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2019 11:15 AM (ZLI7S)

441 also how fucked up a leader did Ukraine have to offer LTC. Pillsbury Doughboy the Defense Minister spot, not once, not twice but 3 TIMES??? There is a lot more to that story

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:15 AM (BqBId)

442 412 Sondland testifies at the impeachment hearing that he asked @realDonaldTrump "What do you want from Ukraine?" He says that Trump abruptly replied "I want nothing, I want nothing, I want no quid pro quo, just tell Zelensky to do the right thing."
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:08 AM (BqBId)

All righty then - why would Schiff call him as a witness?

Wow.

If he didn't know what this guy would say about quid pro quo, Schiff-for-Brains really is as dumb as we think.

And it's out there for everyone to see. Daily.

Apparently he's also nuts and immune to embarrassment.

Any sane person with a scrap of self-respect would have slinked offstage a long time ago, or never got up on stage at all.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 20, 2019 11:15 AM (CmURZ)

443 437 I thought they killed off Archie!"

They kinda did. Last I saw it in the supermarket, picked it up for old times sake, it was full-on woke. Not the Archie I remember.
Posted by: WTP at November 20, 2019


*
*

The Riverdale series, despite being in color, is kind of film noir. Last I saw a year or so ago, Archie got sent to prison. Yeah, really.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:15 AM (Ejm1K)

444 It's a mistake to vote for any candidate for any office except for a straight white man.



Every other variety is protected from criticism by liberal race, sex
and class doctrine. You're racist, sexist or classist if you dare to
criticize them.

-

Sarah Palin, Clarence Thomas, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Nikki Haley, and Ben Carson could not be reached for comment.

Minorities who happen to be conservative can be criticized just fine, it seems.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (KUaJL)

445 The next phase has already begun. Trump must be removed by the 25th because he is unfit because of adderall and Sudafed use and abuse. The mockingbirds are chipping louder about this.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (ngSZO)

446 How did Nunes manage to get elected in California?
Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Uu+Jp)
+++++++++++
Interior. California is really 2-3 states
Coastal: Communist
Inland: Fairly conservative
--> Potential subdivision here based on proportion of illegal aliens, between "fairly conservative" and "third-world outpost"

Nunes is from CA-22 - an inland district.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (I2dne)

447
Well, head off those cliches at the pass
------------

Somebody's going to get shot in the foot...

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Vbjl4)

448 Veronica and Betty bought a Lesbaru, loaded it up with softball gear and Melissa Etheridge CDs and headed out of Riverdale.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (1XNk8)

449 How did Nunes manage to get elected in California?
Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Uu+Jp)

He represents the farm and ranch areas of the San Joachim area. Check out his official website, and look at this bio. He was heavily involved in helping to get water rights regulations that helped farmers in the area beat back the environuts in CA and held office in CA before running for the House.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (v2Axo)

450 Kelly O'Donnell
@KellyO
SONDLAND TESTIMONY:
He says Pres. never spoke about military aid as a condition to him "EVER" but he came to learn by Sept 8th that 'EVERYONE" knew and "I was absolutely convinced it was"


---


Well by that standard, who's going down for the Epstein murder?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (KUaJL)

451 This painting moves me in all the right ways.

Posted by: Lower GI at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (Pzzpr)

452 MAD Magazine sent Archie to prison in the 50s. Everything old is new again.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (1XNk8)

453 448 Veronica and Betty bought a Lesbaru, loaded it up with softball gear and Melissa Etheridge CDs and headed out of Riverdale.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (1XNk

--------------

Got tired of waiting for Archie to make a decision.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (qC1Sy)

454 When will the republicans learn that if they act like Quid Pro Quo is a crime, then everyone will think it is.

The best defense is to say "yeah, no money until you clean up your act".

Fucking idiots.
Posted by: jwest


Federal money used to ALWAYS come with strings.

STRINGS = ALSO KNOWN AS Quid Pro Quo.
Especially money going to police departments.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 11:18 AM (fBape)

455 Et in Albuquerque ego!



Posted by: Bugs Bunny at November 20, 2019 11:18 AM (gmo/4)

456 447
Well, head off those cliches at the pass
------------

Somebody's going to get shot in the foot...
Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Vbjl4)

==========

Yay!

Potentially obscure reference understood!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 11:18 AM (q80AH)

457 Monkey up

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 11:18 AM (DU2N9)

458 448 Veronica and Betty bought a Lesbaru, loaded it up with softball gear and Melissa Etheridge CDs and headed out of Riverdale.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 11:16 AM (1XNk

LOL.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (oY5lM)

459 @KellyO
SONDLAND TESTIMONY:
He says Pres. never spoke about military aid as a condition to him "EVER" but he came to learn by Sept 8th that 'EVERYONE" knew and "I was absolutely convinced it was"
+++++++++++++
Okay, so I have a probably stupid question. The Big Guy never talked talked to his EU Ambassador about a quid-pro-quo. In fact, he explicitly *denied* and desire in that regard.

But then, based on the rumor chamber that is DC and diplomatic core, Sondland came to believe not what he was directly told by his boss but instead what he was told by others his boss purportedly said to him.

That is weak-minded and weak-spined. No one like that should be an Ambassador to anything.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (I2dne)

460 I think the BS claim that Sondland said Trump asked for a quid pro quo is coming from reading the media. "I've been online doing some browsing and the yahoo and other sites are screaming that Sondland just said that Trump demanded a quid pro quo.

It's why everyone is asking what the hell is going on.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:13 AM (v2Axo)

I"m going to repost this, as 436 left off half my post?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (v2Axo)

461
Love that movie.

Posted by: Gooshy at November 20, 2019 11:19 AM (Vbjl4)

462
Chad Pergram @ChadPergram
45s
The future of the Trump presidency and impeachment could pivot on the next 45 minutes and how Republicans handle Sondland. Remember. Sondland is their witness
*******
He soooooo Hopes

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (BqBId)

463 The President and foreign minister of Ukraine both say they were unaware of any Quid Pro Quo demand. What the fuck else do they need? I want to take a flamethrower to these Dems.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (Q5ALd)

464 304
So it appears that Sondeland got the memo, you will have no post Trump
prospects unless you play ball with our shampeachment efforts.





All these people need smacked.

--------------------------

There are protesters outside his Hotels in Portland (Baghdad on the Willamette)

The libs are pretty much saying: "Nice businesses you got here. It would be a shame if something were to happen to 'em."


Posted by: portlandon at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (+oR7L)

465 450
Kelly O'Donnell

@KellyO

SONDLAND TESTIMONY:

He says Pres. never spoke about military aid as a condition to him
"EVER" but he came to learn by Sept 8th that 'EVERYONE" knew and "I was
absolutely convinced it was"





---





Well by that standard, who's going down for the Epstein murder?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 11:17 AM (KUaJL)



So they all got into Schiffs big circle jerk, made up the story and agreed to it as "TRUTH" in spite of the facts. Then LtCol Puffy McMuffinstuffer tried to access the transcript to insert what they all agreed to and found it to be under lock and key. But the ball was already rolling and maybe Puffy McMuffinstuffer tried to access the secure classified server above his authorization level..........



Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (ymnmz)

466 Chad Pergram @ChadPergram
45s
The future of the Trump presidency and impeachment could pivot on the next 45 minutes and how Republicans handle Sondland. Remember. Sondland is their witness
*******
He soooooo Hopes
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 20, 2019 11:20 AM (BqBId)

It should take all of 15 seconds.

"Hey Sondland, why don't you just go and get your fucking shinebox."

Fin.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2019 11:21 AM (hr2+k)

467 I have zero time in my life anymore for people who can't or won't what these America-hating commie shitstains are.

Posted by: ... at November 20, 2019 11:23 AM (7eoML)

468 And here goes Sondland's credibility

Posted by: Eric at November 20, 2019 11:27 AM (abQDf)

469 No Federal Highway funds until you lower the speed limit to 55! - The 1970's

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2019 11:29 AM (gmo/4)

470 Wanda Ventham was a Bond girl? In which film?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Ejm1K)

471 Wanda Ventham was a Bond girl? In which film?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Ejm1K)
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She might have been a girl in a Bond film, but that doesn't ne cc essarily make her a Bond Girl.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 20, 2019 11:39 AM (3Z6pZ)

472 Oh, a barefoot boy with shoes on
Came walking down the street
His hands were full of pockets
And his shoes were full of feet
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 10:17 AM (pNxlR)
+++++++++++++
One bright morning in the middle of the night
Two dead boys got up to fight
They faced each other back-to-back
Drew their swords and shot each other
A deaf policeman heard the noise
And came to kill the two dead boys
If you don't believe that this lie is true
Just ask the blind man - he saw it, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2019 10:20 AM (I2dne)
+++++++++++++
'Twas midnight on the ocean, not a streetcar was in sight
I stepped across the street just to get myself a light
The man behind the counter was a woman old and grey
Who used to peddle roses on the road to Mandalay
"Good evening, sir" she smiled at me; her eyes were filled with tears
She put her head between her legs and stood that way for years
Her children, six, were orphans, but for one small tiny tot
Who lived in the 2nd story just above the vacant lot.

Posted by: Ain't we crazy at November 20, 2019 11:53 AM (17+9D)

473
"I'm pretty sure the squeekhole is here somewhere."

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 20, 2019 12:08 PM (1hM1d)

474 176 US Ambassador to the European Union?
Do we have an ambassador to ISIS too?

That's gonna be Sondland's next gig...

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 20, 2019 12:16 PM (XN/6y)

475 this is so boring

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 20, 2019 12:29 PM (0O7c5)

476 I saw something different in the painting than what is described in the comment. I see it as a statement on human nature. The Goddess and the tablet represent knowledge. In this case the tablet represents history, (fact,) and the Goddess represents truth or understanding.

The three men represent three different reactions to knowledge. To the left we have indifference as that shepherd seems more concerned with what they will have for lunch. The next one is studying it, and the one to the right is questioning.

That is all.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 20, 2019 12:41 PM (LWu6U)

The Morning Report - 11/20/19

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Good morning kids. Wednesday and for those of us living in the real world, the Democrats' case for impeaching and removing Trump from office collapsed like a wet pierogi yesterday when its star witness, the puffy Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman (in service of whose army he wears the uniform for still a topic for debate). I'll get to the particulars in a second but really, the most important thing to keep in mind that makes any and all of this utterly irrelevant is the transcript of the phone call between Presidents Trump and Zelensky was released about two weeks ago and there is nothing that was said that could even be remotely construed as an impeachable offense. Unlike the REO-Speedwagon-heard-it-from-a-friend-who-heard-it-from-a-friend mid level bureaucrats, traitors and flunkies who are just out and out liars with axes to grind, Lt. General Keith Kellog, who is Mike Pence's national security advisor was actually on the call and has confirmed zero impropriety. Period. Full stop.

But, for those still keen on fabulists, Majorette Bearclaw's testimony included admitting, much that it pained him to say so, that the President makes policy and it is not incumbent upon him to do what the State Dept. or others want, this after going to the NSC to bitch and moan about disagreeing with the President's Ukraine policy. Can you say "insubordination?" He claimed that he advised the Ukrainian President not to trust the Russians, despite later admitting that he never had a private one-on-one with him. In any case it would be funny if he did say something so moronic considering Russia had already annexed Crimea, and who the hell is this fat sack of lipids to give advice to anyone? He also claimed he heard the word "Burisma" mentioned on the call despite not being on the transcript but that that was not a significant omission (pfft!) and conceded that Hunter Biden had zero qualifications for the alleged position he held at that company and most crucially that despite not knowing who the alleged "whistleblower" is gave a very distinct impression that he, Vindman, was a key source of information in the actual whistleblower complaint. And that's when Schiff-for-Brains started banging the gavel like a crack-addicted chimpanzee playing drums for the Evolution Revolution.

Later on, it was the turn of former diplomat Kurt Volker to look like a jackass courtesy of Rep. Mike Turner:

..."So I get to ask you. You had a meeting with the President of the United States, and you believe that the policy issues he raised concerning Ukraine were valid, correct?"

"Yes," Volker said.

"Did the President of the United States ever say to you that he was not going to allow aid from the United States to go to the Ukraine unless there were investigations into Burisma, the Bidens, or the 2016 elections?" Turner asked.

"No, he did not," Volker said.

Turner then asked, "Did the Ukrainians ever tell you that they understood that they would not get a meeting with the President of the United States, a phone call with the President of the United States, military aid, or foreign aid from the United States unless they undertook investigations of Burisma, the Bidens, or the 2016 elections?"

"No, they did not," Volker said.

Turner noted that Volker's answers essentially dismantled the Democrats' entire case for impeaching Trump.

"Pretty much, Ambassador Volker, you just, like, took apart their entire case," Turner said.

So, okay. So far all of the so-called "star witnesses" who we were assured had the smoking gun evidence to remove Trump from office have only made the Democrats and the Media look like the real criminals in the eyes of the American people. More and more are finding this whole thing to be a sham and a hit job to take out Trump. This is turning into a titanic disaster for the Democrats no matter how you slice it. If they do impeach him in the House, which I am sure they are going to have to do, there is no way in hell the Senate will vote to convict. Even if you got a few of the probable defectors to vote with the Dems, the end result is Trump will have been found innocent in a trial, and that is a political disaster for Palsi and the party. Probably, it's a worse disaster than if she pulls the plug and enrages her base.

Beyond the politics of all this is the fact that individuals like Vindman, Volker, Yovanovitch as well as the other names we've come to know and loathe like Page, Strzok, McCabe, Ohr and all the rest represent a cancer on the republic. Vindman's actions and attitude underscore their belief that they control the direction of the nation, and not the people or the politicians they elect for a few years at a stretch. In the case of the State Department and the Intelligence Community, given all we have learned over the past three years and longer, America's national security would not be affected negatively in any significant way if the CIA, NSA and the State Dept. were simply abolished. In fact, you could argue that it would improve. And what of all the other federal agencies and departments that control our lives and issue edicts and rules that have the full effect of law, despite the fact that none of the people issuing them have ever been elected and its damned near impossible to fire them? Collectively, they have the same damned attitude of Vindman. It's a fatal conceit that is already having dire consequences on the body politic.

Anyway, links from around the world, across the nation and up your street. Have a better one and remain blessed.

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 07:01 AM (cF8AT)

2 Ok, now to read...sooo much to read.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 07:02 AM (cF8AT)

3 Howdy and good morning to all.

Posted by: windbag at November 20, 2019 07:02 AM (UdxnN)

4 Pelosi will pay for ignoring the USMCA.

Posted by: Redenzo at November 20, 2019 07:05 AM (E7vND)

5 Sefton News is fresh off the presses!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 07:06 AM (4rXjl)

6 G'mornin' Horde !


Off to see the docs in LaCrosse soon, yay !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 20, 2019 07:07 AM (JwHjN)

7 Happy Birthday, JJ!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:07 AM (cqNba)

8 So did the House and Senate get a budget passed?

Why are we paying these people?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 20, 2019 07:09 AM (lD3vL)

9 Link-O-Rama, thank jj

Posted by: Carpe Manana at November 20, 2019 07:10 AM (PbH71)

10 But all the witnesses were dedicated public servants with compelling life stories. On this alone we must impeach.

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 07:10 AM (MxEKc)

11 8 So did the House and Senate get a budget passed?

Why are we paying these people?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 20, 2019 07:09 AM (lD3vL)


Passed. No border wall funding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:10 AM (zBaqJ)

12 Steve Bullock Features "Lock Him Up" Chant In 2020 Campaign Ad, Doesn't Say What Crime He Thinks Trump Committed

I think it is a fair assessment to make that the Demonic Party isn't concerned with legal/illegal, ethical/unethical, traditional/untraditional, right/wrong they just want to lynch their enemies and clear a path to total dominion.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 20, 2019 07:11 AM (lD3vL)

13 Can't wait for all of Vindman's Ranger classmates to start publicly stating what a shit he was, even then. Swift boat redux, I hope.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 07:12 AM (ZZDMQ)

14 Hump day thanks JJ

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2019 07:12 AM (JFO2v)

15 "they just want to lynch their enemies and clear a path to total dominion. "


Can't say that you're wrong on that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:12 AM (cqNba)

16 Early Fresh Hell is the best Fresh Hell.
Smoke 'me if yinz got 'me...

And Happy Birthday, JJ

Posted by: Heirloominati at November 20, 2019 07:13 AM (+J//Q)

17 The narrative won't be that PDT is innocent, it will be that Rethuglikkkans in the Senate let the criminal free.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 07:13 AM (Z3oWA)

18 We are paying these people because we let them set up (openly, in daylight ! ) a system by which they can compel our payments and obedience without any corresponding accountability.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 20, 2019 07:14 AM (JwHjN)

19 G'mornin' Horde, from Loosianna

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 20, 2019 07:14 AM (+R5Od)

20 Beans, beans, the musical fruit...

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at November 20, 2019 07:15 AM (oVJmc)

21 Foreign-Born Researchers At US Agencies Were Secretly Working For China And Recruiting Others, Senate Report Finds

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 07:15 AM (X5CsJ)

22 17 The narrative won't be that PDT is innocent, it will be that Rethuglikkkans in the Senate let the criminal free.
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 07:13 AM (Z3oWA)


Well, that's what the media will play up but if that's the case, why was/is Palsi desperate not to let this go to trial in the Senate?

Hint, we get to call all the witnesses we want and they will have to answer under oath. And even with Schiff for Brains controlling the show, look at all that has been revealed so far? The Senate will start digging into Hillary, Brennan, Obama and all of the shit that got us to this sorry state.

No way they want to do that, whatever the media will say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:16 AM (zBaqJ)

23
Dem Rep Celebrates Education Week by Tweeting Fake Jefferson Quote



Doesn't she know that Jefferson was a rich, white, slave-banging male?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 07:17 AM (oVJmc)

24 Point of order, I don't believe an actual budget has been passed by congress for many years now.

"Spending agreement" or some jiggery-pokery euphemism. Nothing close to a budget.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2019 07:17 AM (wedPR)

25 The two dims that stood with the GOP against this charade
are looking pretty good at the moment.

My guess is the rest of the dim Mod squad will move with them in a floor vote.

that's what Nancy planned all along

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 07:17 AM (rpxSz)

26 Bitching and moaning or pissing an moaning... pick one. I need a theme today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2019 07:17 AM (3H9h1)

27 A memo given to Fusion GPS in May 2016 includes information from Serhiy Leshchenko, a former journalist and Ukrainian lawmaker.

The memo could shed light on Fusion GPS contractor Nellie Ohr's testimony where she said Leshchenko was a source for Fusion, which is best known for its work on the Steele dossier.

The author of the memo suggested Leshchenko could be used as a "conduit" to publicize information about Paul Manafort.

Leshchenko, who has denied being a witting source for Fusion GPS, is best known for his role in publicizing the "black ledger," which purported to show illicit payments from Ukrainians to Paul Manafort.

Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2019 07:17 AM (X5CsJ)

28 It is "Lt. Colonel" or "Defense Minister" (in Ukrainian) please.

Posted by: Alexander Vindman at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (4rXjl)

29 If being a public servant is so difficult and dangerous, why has every lib I have ever known wanted to be one?

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (MxEKc)

30 " Bitching and moaning or pissing an moaning... pick one. I need a theme today."

If one finds that they must pick....

Boogers seem to be a safe way to go.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (cqNba)

31 Foreign-Born Researchers At US Agencies Were Secretly Working For China And Recruiting Others, Senate Report Finds

With Omar and Vindmann, I'm getting a new insight into the 'divided loyalties' concept.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 07:20 AM (oVJmc)

32 "It's a Civil Offense": Al Green (D)-Olt Falsely Claims Illegal Immigration Is Not a Crime

--

Working here without a permit is, as is the identity theft, SS# fraud, perjury, etc.

Every instance, every day. Go to work, leave for lunch, come back to work? That's two instances with six or more crimes in each.

Billions of crimes every single year, and all from the law-abiding illegals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 07:20 AM (aZuds)

33 NPR poll 2/3 say hearings wont change their mind


should ask

Is there anything that Trump could do, outside of resigning, that you would approve of ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 07:20 AM (rpxSz)

34 top fitty. Happy humpy day, horde types.

Confusion to the enemies, and comfort to our friends.

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, Man about Town at November 20, 2019 07:21 AM (wmfhQ)

35 Boogers seem to be a safe way to go.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (cqNba)

I endorse that message! Word as Biden.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 20, 2019 07:21 AM (IttZ7)

36 29 If being a public servant is so difficult and dangerous, why has every lib I have ever known wanted to be one?
Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (MxEKc)

-------

So true. They love living off the government.

Posted by: Pete Buttigeg at November 20, 2019 07:21 AM (jUVms)

37 Morning, y'all!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 07:21 AM (IttZ7)

38 NPR poll 2/3 say hearings wont change their mind


Other third is lying.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 07:22 AM (oVJmc)

39 I read the article on Chesa Boudin. That little Commie will be making a speech at the Dem convention, and will be proclaimed the next whoever to get us what this country needs, to be determined at a later date. Chris Matthews will be in orgasm.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:22 AM (C1Lsn)

40 39 I read the article on Chesa Boudin. That little Commie will be making a speech at the Dem convention, and will be proclaimed the next whoever to get us what this country needs, to be determined at a later date. Chris Matthews will be in orgasm.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:22 AM (C1Lsn)


Yeah, I agree with that. He's running in 2028 for sure. Maybe even 2024.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (zBaqJ)

41 #WhereIsHunter?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (4rXjl)

42 "Dem Rep Celebrates Education Week by Tweeting Fake Jefferson Quote




Posted by: Mr. Peebles"


What Jefferson actually said was "Access to education regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, immigration status or who you love is a Human Right!"

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (MxEKc)

43 "should ask

Is there anything that Trump could do, outside of resigning, that you would approve of ?"

I'm pretty certain that they would be fine with him taking his own life as another acceptable option.

Unlike Epstein, who as we know, did not kill himself.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:24 AM (cqNba)

44 Happy birthday JJ!

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 20, 2019 07:25 AM (uDh3k)

45 chairborn ranger just made it to lt. col. whats up with that shit performance reviews

Posted by: fireman1 at November 20, 2019 07:25 AM (nAGcF)

46 Moronin', Hourde.

HB, JJ!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at November 20, 2019 07:26 AM (oVl+i)

47 I don't know if JJS linked this, but this offers some perspective on today's travails (from the American Thinker, a collection of some nasty anti-president quotes)
https://tinyurl.com/rhcb4js

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 07:26 AM (IttZ7)

48 Working here without a permit is, as is the identity theft, SS# fraud, perjury, etc.

Every instance, every day. Go to work, leave for lunch, come back to work? That's two instances with six or more crimes in each.

Billions of crimes every single year, and all from the law-abiding illegals.
__________________

Failing to file federal and state tax returns while living and working in the U.S. are also crimes, yet millions of illegal aliens do that every year, and never get prosecuted for it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 07:26 AM (k4dH2)

49 I love Trump and even with the impeachment and other assaults on him, I wish he could do something about this.

Small government? LOLGF! The GOPe just loves increasing the size of the derp state. Thinking that by voting GOP gets you small government doesn't even get lip service from the usual suspects. DJT can veto budgets but that just gives a rallying cry to all the fucking sellouts in training to join the full throated supporters of a coup.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 07:26 AM (y7DUB)

50 " chairborn ranger just made it to lt. col. whats up with that shit performance reviews"

Vindermort?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:27 AM (cqNba)

51 Great to know the CIA is spying on the WH.
Also great to know the CIA is shot through with socialists and Eastern Europe Dictator wannabes.

A Decimation of the Intel Community is long overdue

Posted by: Barney Fife at November 20, 2019 07:27 AM (XaO9F)

52 The Chesa Boudin article was chilling. The idea that someone of his ilk would gain political power nationally....

My condolences again to all who have had recent canoe accidents.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (IttZ7)

53 Pelosi will pay for ignoring the USMCA.


Posted by: Redenzo at November 20, 2019 07:05 AM

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It will never get a floor vote while she is speaker because she is using the failure to pass it to hurt Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (JUOKG)

54 Freedom may be on the march, but it is in route step!

Thanks as always JJS.
I must admit that my, admittedly minor, problem with the Morning Report is that if I read all the articles the cross-links, and think about the implications, it's time for the ONT and I haven't eaten all day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (BiNEL)

55 The actual Jefferson quote was

"A well funded, deeply embedded educational system is crucial for the continued wealth of individuals working in those government programs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at November 20, 2019 07:29 AM (0GvUH)

56 I imagine most career state department people are like the Akroyd/Chase characters in Spys Like Us.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 20, 2019 07:29 AM (xceTB)

57 Since we live under a "Democracy" if leftists can be believed, or even if not, importing illegal aliens, mass migration, is simply dirty pool. Treason, if you want to think about it that way.

It isn't complicated. They can't always get the votes they need for their harebrained schemes through normal voting fraud channels, so they've taken to just import them illegally. Seems to be working.

Gut an institution, kill it, wear its skin as a suit and demand respect. They break all the laws, yet want us to consider the result as legitimate and will force us at gunpoint to comply. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2019 07:29 AM (wedPR)

58 " it's time for the ONT and I haven't eaten all day!


It's a source of news...


It's a weight loss plan!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 07:29 AM (cqNba)

59 54 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (BiNEL)


It's a borgashmord.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:30 AM (zBaqJ)

60 My condolences again to all who have had recent canoe accidents.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (IttZ7)


Darn good thing Virginia has a lot of waterfront!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:30 AM (BiNEL)

61 It will never get a floor vote while she is speaker because she is using the failure to pass it to hurt Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (JUOKG)

And Trump will beat her with that like a redheaded step child. Over and over and over again. Then he start anew.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 07:30 AM (cF8AT)

62 Why the fvck is schiff bringing in these "star" witnesses that are completely destroying his case for impeachment?

It literally boggles my mind that he didn't think to ask these questions when him and his staff were doing witness prep. They can't be that stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 07:31 AM (JUOKG)

63 "40 39 I read the article on Chesa Boudin. That little Commie will be making a speech at the Dem convention, and will be proclaimed the next whoever to get us what this country needs, to be determined at a later date. Chris Matthews will be in orgasm.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:22 AM (C1Lsn)


Yeah, I agree with that. He's running in 2028 for sure. Maybe even 2024.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (zBaqJ) "




Yeah, no question, a bright future ahead for that one.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 20, 2019 07:31 AM (JwHjN)

64 60 My condolences again to all who have had recent canoe accidents.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 07:28 AM (IttZ7)

Darn good thing Virginia has a lot of waterfront!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:30 AM (BiNEL)
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Appomattox County recently declared itself a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. More to follow!

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:32 AM (RrqtM)

65 I still think the SCOTUS should step in and say this isn't good enough for impeachment

just for the fact it might cause the death of a certain justice

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 07:32 AM (rpxSz)

66 Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 07:33 AM (438dO)

67 The idiot congress person represents the wine mom rich Memorial part of Houston. Also heavily Beto territory in the last election. She represents her voters well - idiots all.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 20, 2019 07:33 AM (xceTB)

68 Yeah, I agree with that. He's running in 2028 for sure. Maybe even 2024.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (zBaqJ)


But Comrade JJ, Chesa Boudin will most assuredly provide the kind of leadership that will get Communism right (finally)!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:34 AM (BiNEL)

69 27 SMOD

Leshchenko received a fellowship in 2014 at the National Endowment for Democracy. Congressionally supported, NED came into existence when countries complained about blatant CIA interference. Strange, huh?

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 07:34 AM (ZZDMQ)

70 What a day. Vindman and Windman. Quite a pair.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2019 07:34 AM (ZbwAu)

71 Nancy will not touch the USMCA, making Bad Orangeman look bad (at the expense of the American people). She will drop off a couple cases of her home brew chardonnay at the Chamber of Commerce, leaving through the back exit with cash stuffed pillowcases.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:34 AM (C1Lsn)

72


Lt. Col. Milton Waddums is just upset because Trump took his stapler

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (j3vpe)

73 He's running in 2028 for sure. Maybe even 2024.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (zBaqJ)


Don't think so. What plays in San Fransicko doesn't do so well elsewhere as Willie Brown's jizz receptacle is proving.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (y7DUB)

74 Appomattox County recently declared itself a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. More to follow!

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I support this, but I'm guessing it only applies to current law as of 2019. You're still filling out the required fed paperwork on any new gun purchase and not walking into the local shop and leaving with a suppressor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (0GvUH)

75 President Truman fired General MacArthur over the question of who gets to set US policy, and here we are, going over this point one more time.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (hLRSq)

76 Appomattox County recently declared itself a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. More to follow!

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:32 AM (RrqtM)


RYFKM?

I cannot imagine PWC doing that.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (BiNEL)

77 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:16 AM (zBaqJ)

We do agree PDT will be impeached because he will not be able to legitimately nominate RBG's replacement (in the Dems view) and also because their billionaire donors are telling them to do it.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (Z3oWA)

78 Dem Rep Celebrates Education Week by Tweeting Fake Jefferson Quote





Doesn't she know that Jefferson was a rich, white, slave-banging male?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 07:17 AM (oVJmc)


They thought they were quoting George Jefferson

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 07:36 AM (j3vpe)

79 Good morning y'all!

Posted by: tbodie at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (YE6fT)

80 72 Winner - that's going to leave a mark

Posted by: rammajamma at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (xceTB)

81 74 Appomattox County recently declared itself a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. More to follow!

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I support this, but I'm guessing it only applies to current law as of 2019. You're still filling out the required fed paperwork on any new gun purchase and not walking into the local shop and leaving with a suppressor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (0GvUH)
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It does send a nice message to Richmond.

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (RrqtM)

82 Good morning!

"Lazy chow thief" Lt. Col. Bearclaw


Doesn't that say it all, LOL?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (bDqIh)

83 President Truman fired General MacArthur over the
question of who gets to set US policy, and here we are, going over this
point one more time.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (hLRSq)


Yeah but what did MacArthur ever do compared to the brilliant career of Lt. Col. Milton Waddums?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (j3vpe)

84 My wife, who dislikes Trump with a passion, was yelling at the television last night mad that democrats were putting the country through this for nothing.

She also couldn't understand why republicans didn't ask each witness if they thought Hunter Biden receiving 83K a month for nothing wasn't the essence of corruption.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 07:38 AM (U6f/q)

85 Sock Rat "Off to see the docs in LaCrosse dresser"

Try to at least have them save the TIP.

Posted by: saf at November 20, 2019 07:38 AM (5IHGB)

86 Appomattox County recently declared itself a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. More to follow!

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:32 AM (RrqtM)

RYFKM?

I cannot imagine PWC doing that.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (BiNEL)
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Agreed. I sent a message to the County Supervisor for my district thanking them.

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:39 AM (RrqtM)

87 The Lutheran church has been coopted....

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America... and its Stance on Israel
_________

To be fair, that's only ELCA; there are other Lutheran Churches, e.g., the Missouri and Wisconsin Synods. ELCA is the equivalent of the Episcopalians. But there is no one Lutheran Church.

(And remember, I'm speaking as a Papist. I have a Missouri-Lutheran friend who, speaking of ELCA, sounds just as I do when speaking of lib Catholics.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2019 07:39 AM (ZbwAu)

88 76 Appomattox County recently declared itself a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. More to follow!

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:32 AM (RrqtM)

RYFKM?

I cannot imagine PWC doing that.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (BiNEL)


However, 2A sanctuary county is not much more than virtue signaling for our side.

They vote that no county funds can be spent to disarm people in the county. And it has no "force of law." It's kind of like declaring "This town is called Nats town for the day!"

It isn't like they would not arrest someone for a gun crime, or release someone from jail with an FBI warrant for a crime involving a gun.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 07:40 AM (ZfRYq)

89 Lazy Chow Thief


Is that another fake Indian (feather, not dot) Democrat running for President?

Ha ha.

Seriously, that Vindman asshole really pisses me off.

He should be court-martialed.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 20, 2019 07:40 AM (ufFY8)

90 We do agree PDT will be impeached because he will not be able to legitimately nominate RBG's replacement (in the Dems view) and also because their billionaire donors are telling them to do it.
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 07:35 AM (Z3oWA)

I know that this the dim line and it's a fucking joke

However, don't be surprised if enough GOP senators buy into it

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 07:40 AM (rpxSz)

91 So.. the scenario is impeachment by the end of the year.

And Mitch can set the trial for some time in January.. If he drags his feet, he can hold Warren and Sanders hostage for weeks right when they need to be out on the trail before the early primaries..

Will this affect Pelosi's decision whether to go forward or not? The Dems have put themselves into a real pickle!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 07:40 AM (438dO)

92 LIEUTENANT
COLONEL!

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 07:41 AM (UnA8+)

93 Morning yall. Slept late. Had dreams of heads rolling by, but it was a dream.

Posted by: freaked at November 20, 2019 07:41 AM (Tnijr)

94 I love Trump and even with the impeachment and other assaults on him, I
wish he could do something about (the rapidly increasing spending and growing debt). In fact, smaller government is in
his and our best interest all the way around.


When politicians get RE-elected i yuge numbers for actually making deep cuts on government spending (and therefore, services), the dynamic on spending will change. Not a minute before.

To expect Trump, who never said he was a small-government fiscon, to stick his neck out for this issue, when there is no identifiable constituency for it, in the run-up to an election, is wishful thinking.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:41 AM (DU2N9)

95 When can Trump fire this fat fuck Vindman from the NSC and bust him down to corporal (or whatever) for his insubordination and lying under oath?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 07:42 AM (k4dH2)

96 That cover MacArthur wore with all the egg salad on the visor was actually a Philippine field marshal's hat, an appointment given to him. Bearclaw could have accepted the Ukes' offer and had a real snazzy one made.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:42 AM (C1Lsn)

97 I still think the SCOTUS should step in and say this isn't good enough for impeachment

just for the fact it might cause the death of a certain justice
Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 07:32 AM (rpxSz)


Ol' Yeller has been on a tirade for months about the poor quality of legal punditry on the boob tube, particularly that retarded guinea traffic court idiot on Faux, that doesn't understand the first fucking thing about the Constitution, particularly the specific requirements for impeachment.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 07:42 AM (y7DUB)

98 Good morning, horde!

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 07:42 AM (xQfPr)

99
However, 2A sanctuary county is not much more than virtue signaling for our side.

They vote that no county funds can be spent to disarm people in the county. And it has no "force of law." It's kind of like declaring "This town is called Nats town for the day!"

It isn't like they would not arrest someone for a gun crime, or release someone from jail with an FBI warrant for a crime involving a gun.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 07:40 AM (ZfRYq)
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I'm aware of that. I appreciate the sentiment, regardless.

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:43 AM (RrqtM)

100 62 Why the fvck is schiff bringing in these "star" witnesses that are completely destroying his case for impeachment?

It literally boggles my mind that he didn't think to ask these questions when him and his staff were doing witness prep. They can't be that stupid.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 07:31 AM (JUOKG)


You have to realize that the entire case was based on Trump NOT releasing the transcript of the phone call so that Schiff can claim "cover up!" and then put on a gaggle of witnesses to say anything they want.

Trump destroyed the plan. Now all they have are the witnesses with the transcript to refute any lie they try to make. But they have not option.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:43 AM (zBaqJ)

101 Miller also weighed in on Bret Easton Ellis' new book, "White." The volume examines pop culture from a 2019 lens, excoriating woke groupthink and other modern ills.


He called the book "brilliantly astute" and a balm for our current cultural moment.



Now that sounds much more interesting than the latest Charlies Angels. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 07:43 AM (bDqIh)

102 Good morning chow hounds. Thx for the links JJ

Posted by: Zeera BMGG Books Make Great Gifts at November 20, 2019 07:43 AM (ADkUh)

103 92 LIEUTENANT
COLONEL!
Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 07:41 AM (UnA8+)



"Okay. Lieutenant Colonel Ma'am..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:44 AM (zBaqJ)

104 >>>>> The GOPe just loves increasing the size of the derp state.<<<

The only government I have ever seen the GOP make smaller was Saddam Hussein's.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 20, 2019 07:45 AM (3DZIZ)

105 I find it hilarious that all the mouthbreathers at Occupy Democrats and DU etc think LTC GropeyDonuts title-correcting comeback to Nunes was some sort of SIIIIICK BUUUUUUURN, MAN when, really, to just about anyone it only made Sgt. Pepper look like more of douche than he already seemed.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:45 AM (DU2N9)

106 How the fuck on G-Ds green earth are the dems not just laughed off Capitol Hill?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 07:45 AM (85Gof)

107 I saw that bit with Turner questioning Volker yesterday, and it was great. Turner kept saying so far we've heard about "feelings" and "understandings" etc. while making air quotes and practically rolling his eyes. I was cracking up.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 07:45 AM (aXucN)

108 Lieutenant Colonel Yougonnaeatthat

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (oVJmc)

109 I think it is a fair assessment to make that the Demonic Party isn't concerned with legal/illegal, ethical/unethical, traditional/untraditional, right/wrong they just want to lynch their enemies and clear a path to total dominion.

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It would be nice if the, ya know, GOP caught on to this. Few have, but most still seem to think DC operates normally. It does not.

It's also disappointing Montana elected this Bullock character. I love that state and can't reconcile the rugged, independent people that live there with voting for any Democrat. Ever. Yesteryear's Democrats are not today's Democrats. Sure would be nice if people started catching on to that very important fact.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (JoUsr)

110 The president isn't the only one facing an election.

There's no way this comes in front of the full House. And if Pelosi is stupid enough to entertain the motion it will go down in flames.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (fE1wp)

111 As I left this morning the dogs were up and frisky, thinking for some reason they would get a hike out of me. Sorry!


I'm sure my wife is delighted two eager dogs were whining, watching her intently, and wagging away at 5 am.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (4rXjl)

112 "...ask each witness if they thought Hunter Biden receiving 83K a month for nothing wasn't the essence of corruption."

Certain stories simply don't get mentioned, Republicans are always ever so scrupulous about respecting leftist premises and talking points. A glaring omission isn't an accident.

Occam's Razor suggests plenty of Republicans have family members with no-show jobs that they are not even remotely qualified for, and would dearly wish to avoid the harsh klieg spotlight of truth to be aimed their way. Would be nice to have a real media or news organization. The current crop, I hope they die in a Fire.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (wedPR)

113 So the fat O-5 is the next defense minister of the Ukraine?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (85Gof)

114 The Midnight's Edge video about Charlie's Angels in the sidebar..

Elizabeth Banks said it's important for everyone to go see her movie..

Isn't that something every movie director says?

Posted by: Blanco at November 20, 2019 07:47 AM (Ay9RF)

115 95 TrivialPursuer

According to Twitchy and some info on Twitter, some woman (who is friends w Jarrett and Michelle) got the $160k a year job as Human Resource head over NSC and she refused to let them release him. Her name is Leteeshia Williams, iirc.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 07:47 AM (ZZDMQ)

116 Reading CTH they are saying that the plan in the House is to have a "formal Impeachment proceeding vote" by December 12, last voting day in the House.

Well, no. They have already done that. They are not going to revote it.

Schiff's circus is over Thursday, and the House it out until first week of December.

After Schiff is through, the matter is turned over to Nadler's committee. So he has less than two weeks to get a bill of impeachment out of committee and to the floor of the House for a vote. (This is roughly the timeframe for the Clinton impeachment - the House voted the Bill the last voting day - December 19).

Christmas break I think represents a problem for the Dems - it will break their momentum.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 07:47 AM (ZfRYq)

117 Too bad our Congressman wasn't sitting there when Bearclaw pulled rank. Womack's a retired full bird.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:47 AM (C1Lsn)

118 @maiehirono













Every time @realDonaldTrump opens his mouth, the urgency of the impeachment inquiry becomes clearer.

- hurling false accusations of treason- amplifying conspiracy theories- intimidating a whistleblower
The President is so out of bounds, mere words of criticism don't suffice.


You're a Senator --- show me where in the Constitution it says we can impeach a president for saying mean stuff and rebutting claims that he's committed crimes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 07:47 AM (bDqIh)

119 If I were Mcconnell I would anounce that any articles of impeachment passed by the House without any factual basis what so ever will be trashed on arrival.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 07:48 AM (85Gof)

120 The federal purge is long overdue.

Of course, fire all political appointees who have ever walked past a democrat.

But the real purge will be when Trump finally realizes he's the fucking President and he can do whatever he wants with the executive branch. Move the bulk of the agencies out of Washington with no relocation assistance. Let most of the employees quit. Arkansas would be a fine place for the State Department. North Dakota is made for the IRS.

Breaking up the cabal of fat, lazy federal bureaucrat democrats will do more for the country than anything else.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 07:48 AM (U6f/q)

121 It's also disappointing Montana elected this Bullock
character. I love that state and can't reconcile the rugged,
independent people that live there with voting for any Democrat.
Ever.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM (JoUsr)

50K people moving from Commiefornia (which certainly happened over the last 10-years) can tip a state with an electorate the size of Montana. Same thing is starting to happen to Idaho and Wyoming.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:49 AM (DU2N9)

122 University of Virginia Reinstates Veterans Day 21-Gun Salute: "We Made a Mistake"
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Too late for me. My brother came through town this weekend, and immediately razzed me with "Your alma mater is a bunch of pussies."

I had to agree. And I showed him the latest alumni magazine, which was, as always, a guilt-fest about the University's racist, sexist, and anti-LGBTQUERTY past.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2019 07:49 AM (ZbwAu)

123 62 Why the fvck is schiff bringing in these "star" witnesses that are completely destroying his case for impeachment?

Because it is a show trial. The Dems have already made up their minds. Pelosi (and others) already said Trump committed impeachable offenses.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 07:50 AM (ZfRYq)

124
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2019 07:50 AM (hx3Q8)

125 Israel on it's way to it's 3rd Election in 12 months....great system they have over there . LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 07:51 AM (85Gof)

126 95 When can Trump fire this fat fuck Vindman from the NSC and bust him down to corporal (or whatever) for his insubordination and lying under oath?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 07:42 AM (k4dH2)


Deserved retribution from the Oval Office for Vindman and others should wait until Don Vito is dead (in this case, acquittal in a Senate trial). No need to add fuel to the Dem- and MFM-started public bonfire at this time just to give small-fry like Vindman what they deserve. For now, give him the job of cleaning-up the coffee pot and cups. Being cut out of the loop will hurt his ego more than being fired from NSC.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (AMIL/)

127 Israel on it's way to it's 3rd Election in 12 months....great system they have over there . LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 07:51 AM (85Gof)

If it weren't for their being surrounded by nations who want to push them all into the sea they'd be knifing each other on the floor of the Knesset on a regular basis.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (DU2N9)

128 However, don't be surprised if enough GOP senators buy into it
Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2019 07:40 AM (rpxSz)

Republicans stupidly caved on Nixon. If they cave again, they're finished.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (Z3oWA)

129 To expect Trump, who never said he was a small-government fiscon, to stick his neck out for this issue, when there is no identifiable constituency for it, in the run-up to an election, is wishful thinking.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:41 AM (DU2N9)


I think Trump, as a bidnessman, understands the unsustainable financial situation the Uniparty has put the country in. He also knows fucking A well that doing what needs to be done would make him a one termer. I'm hoping that 2020 results, particularly if it's a landslide, will give him the wherewithal to at least act Reaganesque if not go much further. That's a sheer guess on my part.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (y7DUB)

130 125 Israel on it's way to it's 3rd Election in 12 months....great system they have over there . LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 07:51 AM (85Gof)


Considering what we're going through here...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (zBaqJ)

131 130 Considering what we're going through here...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (zBaqJ)

Not to mention the UK, where they're just going to keep voting over and over until someone who'll cancel Brexit ends up winning.

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 07:55 AM (UnA8+)

132 I think Trump, as a bidnessman, understands the
unsustainable financial situation the Uniparty has put the country in.
He also knows fucking A well that doing what needs to be done would make
him a one termer. I'm hoping that 2020 results, particularly if it's a
landslide, will give him the wherewithal to at least act Reaganesque if
not go much further. That's a sheer guess on my part.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (y7DUB)

Agree with all of that, but it could be that Trump is thinking unless you remove the swamp dwellers first it doesn't matter what you cut, the money still flows back to the swamp. And he can't remove the swamp dwellers until after he's re-elected. January 2021 could be... interesting.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:55 AM (DU2N9)

133 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 07:55 AM (arJlL)

134
I support this, but I'm guessing it only applies to current law as of 2019. You're still filling out the required fed paperwork on any new gun purchase and not walking into the local shop and leaving with a suppressor.

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It does send a nice message to Richmond.

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (RrqtM)

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I agree and I appreciate the sentiment as well.

It's just disheartening when cities, counties, and states are openly telling the feds to go f*ck themselves regarding illegals, pot, and other actual federal crimes, and conservatives ask for permission to please keep the little 2019 slice of 10 round magazines and FFL pie we've got left regarding something that really, truly says shall not be infringed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 07:55 AM (aZuds)

135 "Medicare for All" and the Free Market


********

The notion that instituting Medicare for All will result in a free market option is, IMO, a flawed premise. The authors mention three entities.

1. Concierge or subscription-based practices
2. Specialty surgical centers
3. Medical tourism for care elsewhere.

The first two are relatively niche-oriented services (cherry picking) and their continued existence is predicated on the notion that the regulatory environment will remain static. But Medicare for All, by its very nature can only exist if everybody participates, and that will occur via a change in the regulatory machine. Licensing restrictions for doctors and certification restrictions for facilities have been talked about and implemented for years, on local and state levels, and will only tighten under a federal single payer system.

Medical tourism is not really a practical option for most citizens. The authors mention Mexican hospitals springing up to accommodate the hordes of care seekers. No way THAT could go wrong. /s

These are not really free market entities, they are more like black market entities.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 07:56 AM (m45I2)

136 127 I would think a large number of Knesset members are reservists. It would be kind of lively if they had "Bring your family Uzi to work day".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:56 AM (C1Lsn)

137 @ChadPergram 2 minutes ago

USCP: The USCP is responding to a Suspicious Package at the South Capitol Street Door of the Longworth House Office Building.

Staff and other personnel are directed to AVOID THIS AREA until further notice. Updates will be provided when available.



Just snacks for Vindman....

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 07:57 AM (cF8AT)

138 Hiya JT. I'm happily sitting in my 67 degree kitchen.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 07:57 AM (aXucN)

139 Google Confirms Android Camera Security Threat: 'Hundreds Of Millions' Of Users Affected

The security research team at Checkmarx has made something of a habit of
uncovering alarming vulnerabilities, with past disclosures covering
Amazon's Alexa and Tinder. However, a discovery of vulnerabilities
affecting Google and Samsung smartphones, with the potential to impact
hundreds of millions of Android users, is the biggest to date. What did
the researchers discover? Oh, only a way for an attacker to take control
of smartphone camera apps and remotely take photos, record video, spy
on your conversations by recording them as you lift the phone to your
ear, identify your location, and more. All of this performed silently,
in the background, with the user none the wiser.




Big Tech = Big Brother
https://preview.tinyurl.com/qqgz9sr

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 07:57 AM (bDqIh)

140 Not to mention the UK, where they're just going to keep voting over and over until someone who'll cancel Brexit ends up winning.

Posted by: Allie at November 20, 2019 07:55 AM (UnA8+)

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Last poll had the Tories and Brexit Party winning an outright majority of the votes and leading in something close to 400 constituencies (331 needed for a majority). Still 3-weeks out from the election, but Labor is being led by a lunatic who makes AOC look brilliant and the LibDems have utterly imploded.
BoJo could be looking at leading the largest parliamentary majority since Tony Blair's first election.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:58 AM (DU2N9)

141 I bet the Democrats would be shocked at how many people would like to be allowed to pay cash for routine oil changes but maintain a $75/month service plan that would pay for any unexpected repairs above $10K.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 07:58 AM (aZuds)

142 Day 2 of the Mil Blogs takedown of Democrat Operative Vindman.

I think one site labeled it Operation Crucifixion

By the way, LG Kellogg is a legend. Served in RVN, Silver Star, Ranger, Q Course, MPB, and many more. Also served in Kuwait.

I'll take him over a blue falcon Vindman any day, and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 07:58 AM (F73W5)

143 50K people moving from Commiefornia (which certainly happened over the last 10-years) can tip a state with an electorate the size of Montana. Same thing is starting to happen to Idaho and Wyoming.

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Heartbreaking. And here I was, hoping the cold would keep the California vermin out. I'll console myself with JJ's statement that he's polling badly.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 07:59 AM (JoUsr)

144 There may be a place somewhere in this world where Trump may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but that place is NOT Washington D.C.
He makes them all look like the fools they are.

Posted by: Case my heroes have always been cowboys at November 20, 2019 07:59 AM (9mOGz)

145 It does send a nice message to Richmond.

Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2019 07:37 AM (RrqtM)


Weasel did you see SB 16 on the schedule for next year?

They are not playing. Possession of "assault firearms" a felony, magazines > 10 rounds a misdemeanor.

I was hoping VCDL had something on it, but they don't.

If that bill moves forward next year house is going up for sale.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 07:59 AM (ZfRYq)

146 just fyi, the very first sentence of your post, J.J., needs a bit of work. Looks like a thought you intended to finish that sentence with went AWOL.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 08:00 AM (V2Yro)

147 The president isn't the only one facing an election.

There's
no way this comes in front of the full House. And if Pelosi is stupid
enough to entertain the motion it will go down in flames.





Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 07:46 AM

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At this point they have to keep going on and hold a vote. If they don't they will lose their base for next years election.


I predict they will vote and pass articles of impeachment with no Republicans voting in favor and mcconnell will hold the biggest most extravagant trial in the History of the Senate. They will include bribery, obstruction of justice and some other stuff to pretty it up and hand it off to the Senate.


And it will last weeks and weeks and will absolutely destroy those six democrat senators campaigns who are running for President. They will be forced to sit there for weeks without being able to say a single word. It's going to be great!

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 08:00 AM (JUOKG)

148 And yes the Left hates America.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 08:01 AM (wiXsO)

149 bluebell, is your furnace dead?

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:01 AM (fE1wp)

150 But the real purge will be when Trump finally
realizes he's the fucking President and he can do whatever he wants with
the executive branch. Move the bulk of the agencies out of Washington
with no relocation assistance. Let most of the employees quit.
Arkansas would be a fine place for the State Department. North Dakota
is made for the IRS.



Breaking up the cabal of fat, lazy federal bureaucrat democrats will do more for the country than anything else.


Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 07:48 AM

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Unfortunately Civil Service laws prevent Trump form doing most of that stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 08:02 AM (JUOKG)

151 Republicans stupidly caved on Nixon. If they cave again, they're finished.
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 07:52 AM (Z3oWA)


In retrospect, having lived through Watergate it was such a maximum shitshow of a derp state coup that every turncoat Repuke should've been tied to the whippin' post and had the flesh on his back turned to ribbons. But those were different times. Nixon was a lib weirdo who added the fucking EPA and was an economic retard. Trump has lifted the economy out of the eight year trough Gaylord put it into and having a job, particularly a well paying one, decreases a lot of "fuck this shit" sentiment.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:02 AM (y7DUB)

152 Oh, only a way for an attacker to take control
of smartphone camera apps and remotely take photos, record video, spy on your conversations by recording them as you lift the phone to your ear, identify your location, and more. All of this performed silently, in the background, with the user none the wiser.

--

Huh. This bingo number generator needs access to my camera? Sounds good!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:02 AM (aZuds)

153 I wouldn't worry about impeachment in the next election. I would worry about turnout. If you look at Virginia and Kentucky that's what won it for Dems.

It's the canary in the coal mine, and the GOP is like, meh.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (F73W5)

154 That Vindman is a true believer. He is following orders he received from a person he feels is his direct supervisor. The others are just opportunists, the kind of people I hired Trump to fire.
Vindman reminds me of the Nazi Panzer general who burns in his tank when Henry Fonda rolls 55g of diesel under his Tiger. This Vindman is going down fighting. The rest are pussy hats.

Posted by: Heather Swanson at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (xqwDY)

155 Those aren't medals on Vindmann's jacket, they're jujubes he's saving for later.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (oVJmc)

156 The first two are relatively niche-oriented services (cherry picking) and their continued existence is predicated on the notion that the regulatory environment will remain static. But Medicare for All, by its very nature can only exist if everybody participates, and that will occur via a change in the regulatory machine. Licensing restrictions for doctors and certification restrictions for facilities have been talked about and implemented for years, on local and state levels, and will only tighten under a federal single payer system.

Medical tourism is not really a practical option for most citizens. The authors mention Mexican hospitals springing up to accommodate the hordes of care seekers. No way THAT could go wrong. /s

These are not really free market entities, they are more like black market entities.
Posted by: Muldoon

.............

Medicare for All only works if doctors and hospitals are forced to take the reimbursement the government sees fit.

On the one hand, it is a good deal for hospitals, because they would never get stiffed on a big bill any longer.

I don't know if doctors can afford to stay in practice on only Medicare level reimbursements.

I suspect vast areas of rural America will have zero medical providers under Medicare for All.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (438dO)

157 And (a Senate Impeachment Trial) will last weeks and weeks and will absolutely
destroy those six democrat senators campaigns who are running for
President. They will be forced to sit there for weeks without being able
to say a single word. It's going to be great!


Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 08:00 AM (JUOKG)

The only current Senators who have a reasonable shot at the nomination are Bernie and Lieawatha. So such a trial pretty much kneecaps them and boosts Gropey and Buttplug. Interesting.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (DU2N9)

158 Good morning horde.

To be fair, even members of the ELCA barely acknowledge being Lutheran. They went off the rails years and years ago. LINO's.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (lwiT4)

159 I'm pretty sure the DNC has been in touch with Pelosi, Shiff, et. al. about the impeachment schedule, voting, and the need to have their chosen one on the stump.

The shit show will likely be over early next year so the Dems can focus on election fraud.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (3H9h1)

160 I suspect vast areas of rural America will have zero medical providers under Medicare for All.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM (438dO)

A feature, not a bug.
- Democrat CONgresscritters

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 08:04 AM (DU2N9)

161 Barbara Eden is on the Andy Griffith rerun this morning.

Absolutely smokin' hot.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 08:04 AM (oVJmc)

162 So two patsies are going to take the fall for Epstein's "suicide".

Posted by: Guzalot at November 20, 2019 08:05 AM (prSvo)

163 When can Trump fire this fat fuck Vindman from the NSC and bust him down to corporal (or whatever) for his insubordination and lying under oath?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 07:42 AM (k4dH2)
************
That would be an impeachable offense dontcha know.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 08:05 AM (wiXsO)

164 bluebell, is your furnace dead?
Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:01 AM (fE1wp)
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Hi creeper - no, that's my preferred temp right now! We just got back from spending 4 days up north with my father-in-law who tried to melt us. He had the thermostat set at 82, and we were dying. So we kept turning it down to 72, and then he'd crank it up to 88.

This went on the whole time we were there. We had all the windows open in our room, etc. He had cranked it up to 90 in the middle of the night which we discovered yesterday when we woke up at 4 am unable to sleep because we were being broiled.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 08:05 AM (aXucN)

165 "As we consider the impeachment of Donald Trump, I hope that both sides will keep their grievances in perspective..."

Such sentiments are completely useless.

The playing-out of this conflict is becoming boring. We need one of those "paradigm shifts." If we don't know who the Left is by now and can't act accordingly, to hell with us.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:05 AM (H8QX8)

166 Agree with all of that, but it could be that Trump is thinking unless you remove the swamp dwellers first it doesn't matter what you cut, the money still flows back to the swamp. And he can't remove the swamp dwellers until after he's re-elected. January 2021 could be... interesting.
Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 07:55 AM (DU2N9)


We're on the same page.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:05 AM (y7DUB)

167 Hiya JT. I'm happily sitting in my 67 degree kitchen.
Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 07:57 AM (aXucN)

You know you can cut the heat on!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 20, 2019 08:06 AM (upJBx)

168 Virginians should hope that SCOTUS takes up Worman v. Healy. That's the only hope to stop these unconstitutional state bans.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:07 AM (F73W5)

169 I wouldn't worry about impeachment in the next election. I would worry about turnout. If you look at Virginia and Kentucky that's what won it for Dems.

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I'm going to disagree here. Turnout for Trump next year will be like nothing we've ever seen. And this is cynical me saying that.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 08:08 AM (JoUsr)

170 158: grammie, this is known.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 20, 2019 08:08 AM (KP5rU)

171 I predict they will vote and pass articles of impeachment with no Republicans voting in favor and mcconnell will hold the biggest most extravagant trial in the History of the Senate. They will include bribery, obstruction of justice and some other stuff to pretty it up and hand it off to the Senate.

Yes, they have to vote for it, and they will.

But they have nothing, and they can't be too specific in their articles because of it.

I am thinking it will be "Abuse of Power." Maybe they will also add "Conduct Unbecoming A President of the United States" leaning on the UCMJ for wording.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (ZfRYq)

172 On the one hand, it is a good deal for hospitals, because they would never get stiffed on a big bill any longer.


********

I don't think so. Rather, they would be capped at some arbitrarily determined level (i.e. Medicare rates or Medicare plus a few percentage points, but would lose private insurance reimbursements and self-pay patients, which is currently where hospitals make up for the revenue gap that Medicare rates create.

There may be some hospitals that thrive, but there will also be some that shut down.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (m45I2)

173 "I suspect vast areas of rural America will have zero medical providers under Medicare for All."

Ever watch the BBC medical documentary, Doc Martin?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (cqNba)

174 Can you imagine how the economy would be doing if the left loved America even slightly?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (aZuds)

175 Barbara Eden is on the Andy Griffith rerun this morning.

Absolutely smokin' hot.

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Mr. Peebles suddenly wants a manicure.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (JoUsr)

176 Buen dia horde.

I wonder if the the Evangelical Lutheran Church can spare any of the tears it sheds overs the Muslims "oppressed" by Israel, for the poor Muslims oppressed by China.

I bet not.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (EZebt)

177 Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 08:05 AM (wiXsO)

Command influence is a bad thing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (upJBx)

178 "I'm going to disagree here. Turnout for Trump next year will be like nothing we've ever seen. And this is cynical me saying that.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 08:08 AM (JoUsr)"

Your lips to God's ear. And I hope "all politics are local" stands. But I have to worry about a place like Louisiana and that kind of turnout in a state Trump won handily.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:10 AM (F73W5)

179 "You know you can cut the heat on turn the oven on and make biscuits. Takes the chill right off.!


*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:10 AM (cqNba)

180 LOL, bluebell. I have to admit subscribing to your FIL's opinion of correct ambient temperature. When you get older your blood slows down. At least that's my theory.

Anyway, welcome back and enjoy the coolth.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:11 AM (fE1wp)

181 Hiya chavez! Line up a WELS guy, an LCMS guy, and an ELCA guy, and see which one of them floats.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:11 AM (lwiT4)

182 You know you can cut the heat on!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 20, 2019 08:06 AM (upJBx)
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It's on as high as it's going.

On a related note, I am redoubling my efforts to stay out of hell.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 08:11 AM (aXucN)

183 Barbara Eden is on the Andy Griffith rerun this morning.

Absolutely smokin' hot.



********

That might explain why Don Knotts' eyes bugged out.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 08:12 AM (m45I2)

184 181; morning grammie! you and i know the answer to that one.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (KP5rU)

185 Lieutenant Colonel Yougonnaeatthat
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


LOL!!!!!

Very good !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (arJlL)

186 Mornin' Horde. Seems to me a competent political party might take video of some Dem ranting and transition the audio into babies crying and screaming. One after another. Until finishing with a composite of several Dems ranting and the sound is a bunch of crying, screaming babies.

But I'm just some deplorable keyboard warrior, WTF do I know.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (D5yyd)

187 >>I don't know if doctors can afford to stay in practice on only Medicare level reimbursements.



I suspect vast areas of rural America will have zero medical providers under Medicare for All.- - - -

All you have to do is look at what's happened with NHS.
Local doctors leave medical practice (go overseas, find some other way to do private practice) and medical staff st state hospitals becomes mostly foreign.


As for rural care, I've already seen Lefties spouting off about how rural people will have to suffer because they've chosen to live there; if they want accessible care, then move to the cities, you inbred hicks.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (bDqIh)

188 Passed. No border wall funding.

Was it a real budget or just a "continue what we've been doing for the past decade" bullshit bill.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (xQfPr)

189 So Iran is going through a populist revolt against the religious leaders, and current government.

104 civilians claimed to have been killed by government forces so far.

And the Lincoln CBG just happens to do a planned passage of the straits into the gulf yesterday.


Not saying that the events are related.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (cqNba)

190 I'm happily sitting in my 67 degree kitchen.
Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 07:57 AM (aXucN)


I might be a codger but if not for my wife, I'd have the thermostat set in the low 60s. Maybe I'm a physiological anomaly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:14 AM (y7DUB)

191 Was it a real budget or just a "continue what we've been doing for the past decade" bullshit bill.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (xQfPr)

The latter.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2019 08:16 AM (DU2N9)

192 Hiya JT. I'm happily sitting in my 67 degree kitchen.
Posted by: bluebell

LOL !

Hiya Bluebell, glad to hear it !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:16 AM (arJlL)

193 I've always felt that body heat was the best way to warm up. But that's just me.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:16 AM (F73W5)

194
According to Twitchy and some info on Twitter, some woman (who is friends w Jarrett and Michelle) got the $160k a year job as Human Resource head over NSC and she refused to let them release him. Her name is Leteeshia Williams, iirc.
____________________

Trump should fire her too!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 08:16 AM (k4dH2)

195 We could save so much money if Medicaid patients were only allowed to visit urgent cares and get referred to hospitals if needed, as well as having a warehouse staffed by two or three government nurses for routine visits and any and all daytime concerns. Think DMV but in a salvation army store.

Want free healthcare? Enjoy. Don't want the night nurse making that call? Don't use Medicaid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:16 AM (aZuds)

196 I might be a codger but if not for my wife, I'd have the thermostat set in the low 60s. Maybe I'm a physiological anomaly.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:14 AM (y7DUB)
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I'm more like your wife - even though I'm at the age (29.1) when I should be running hot, I'm still always cold. However, I still have plenty of residual heat from the last few days, so I'm happy right now. But the thermostat is actually set at 70, it's just always cooler in my kitchen.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 08:18 AM (aXucN)

197 "I might be a codger but if not for my wife, I'd have the thermostat set in the low 60s. Maybe I'm a physiological anomaly.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:14 AM (y7DUB)"

I'm pretty sure The Battle of the Thermostat occurs in about 98% of married couples homes.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:18 AM (F73W5)

198 as it a real budget or just a "continue what we've been doing for the past decade" bullshit bill.

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Last actual budget was 1997 IIRC.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:18 AM (aZuds)

199 "Seems to me a competent political party might take video of some Dem ranting and transition the audio into babies crying and screaming"

Like this?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/media

(Second video)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (cqNba)

200 Morning Horde,

The wife and I just found out that we're (well, she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.

Thanks

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)

201 I'm pretty sure The Battle of the Thermostat occurs in about 98% of married couples homes.



*raises hand*

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (lwiT4)

202 Morning Horde and Thanks JJ. Went to first movie in 5 years last night, due to being a WW2 buff. Midway was very good

Posted by: Jonah at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (AIG0e)

203 @169. I'm cynical too. And I agree with you.

What makes me cynical is 8 years of Obama, the Democrats, Federal judges, the News Media, and some sorry ass Republicans.
What gives me hope is President Trump.

Posted by: Case my heroes have always been cowboys at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (9mOGz)

204 But the thermostat is actually set at 70, it's just always cooler in my kitchen.


Thermostat? You one percenter.

My temperature regulation is does it feel like I should throw another log on the fire.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at link in nic at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (wzVKm)

205 200. Congrats Joe

Posted by: Jonah at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (AIG0e)

206 Louisiana, The Lutherans and Chick Fil A go squish.

Not as confident about 2020.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (xXx5y)

207 The wife and I just found out that we're (well,
she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our
growing family.



Thanks

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)



Wonderful news, joe! Congratulations!

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (lwiT4)

208 The wife and I just found out that we're (well, she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.
___________

Congratulations!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (k4dH2)

209 >>I'm pretty sure The Battle of the Thermostat occurs in about 98% of married couples homes.


Yup. I like it colder, I am constantly turning it down, especially at night, LOL

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (bDqIh)

210 187 As for rural care, I've already seen Lefties spouting off about how rural people will have to suffer because they've chosen to live there; if they want accessible care, then move to the cities, you inbred hicks.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (bDqIh)

=========

Let the goats and the remotely controlled combines do all the farming!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (q80AH)

211 Thermostat battles are a 12 month discussion in my house. Wife prefers the house cooler in summer than in winter. Baffles me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (Y3Dab)

212 The Battle of the Thermostat occurs in 98% of offices too!

But, since we went work-from-home, now I get to set it however I want.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (1XNk8)

213 Congratulations dangerously living Joe!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at link in nic at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (wzVKm)

214 >>The wife and I just found out that we're (well,

she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our

growing family.


Fabulous news! Congratulations!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (bDqIh)

215 Congratulations, joe. Leave the thermostat alone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (aZuds)

216 Louisiana, The Lutherans and Chick Fil A go squish.



Not as confident about 2020.



Posted by: Voter theater. at November 20, 2019 08:20 AM (xXx5y)



That particular Lutheran synod went squish decades ago. Nothing to do with Trump.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:21 AM (lwiT4)

217 200 Morning Horde,

The wife and I just found out that we're (well, she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.

Thanks
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)

==========

Congrats!

We just had our second 19 days ago. He's already got a job and translates Homer from the original Greek into medieval French as a side-hobby.

Hopefully you'll be able to do better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (q80AH)

218 It's funny for me to think of Lotte Lenya as Rosa Klebb because my first introduction to her work was from an old photograph record of my fathers, with her singing in "The Threepenny Opera". She was a fine actress and attractive when younger:

https://tinyurl.com/yx7kbkwr

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (WI7YS)

219 183 Barbara Eden is on the Andy Griffith rerun this morning.

Absolutely smokin' hot.


********

That might explain why Don Knotts' eyes bugged out.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 08:12 AM (m45I2)


And also why Ernest T. Bass took a shower and Otis sobered up.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (hr2+k)

220 The wife and I just found out that we're (well,
she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.

Thanks

Posted by: joe, living dangerously


Congratulations!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (ob5xJ)

221 Anybody remember the Baltimore Healthy Holly scandal, that took down the mayor?

https://cbsloc.al/32XOhGM

Insiders have whispered in my ear that she is plea dealing with the Feds, and willing to name names in the Baltimore Pay-to-Pay way of government.

Could be an Epstein moment if she is put into a jail cell.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

222 It's a fatal conceit that is already having dire consequences on the body politic.



_______



"Ah, my favorite conceit." -- Friedrich Hayek


Bravo, J.J.!

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 20, 2019 08:23 AM (WqPYg)

223 The wife and I just found out that we're (well, she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.

Thanks
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)
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Woo hoo! That's wonderful news! I will certainly keep you all in my prayers. The second one is easy, because you already know what to expect. The first one will still keep you guessing, LOL. But of course I think the more, the merrier. Congratulations!

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 08:23 AM (aXucN)

224 Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)


That's happy news. How wonderful for you! Will pray for you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:23 AM (WI7YS)

225 One thing the weak kneed Pubbies in the Senate cannot handle, is losing thier seats. They love the title and power like the rats. They are just smart enough to realize that they are toast trump were ever convicted

Posted by: Jonah at November 20, 2019 08:23 AM (AIG0e)

226 221 Insiders have whispered in my ear that she is plea dealing with the Feds, and willing to name names in the Baltimore Pay-to-Pay way of government.

Could be an Epstein moment if she is put into a jail cell.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

=======

So, another promise of cleaning up a sinkhole of government that will change very little because the voters have grown to like the state of affairs and will just vote in more crooks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:23 AM (q80AH)

227 rickb223

Happy Birthday !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (arJlL)

228 Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)

Congratulations, and good job living up to your nic.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (hr2+k)

229 re: The Battle of the Thermostat

mr. creeper kept the thermostat at 65 (Alt 24. I wore sweaters. In Houston. In August.


When the first hot flash hit my immediate thought was, "Oh, thank God! I'm finally warm!"

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (fE1wp)

230 We could save so much money if Medicaid patients were only allowed to visit urgent cares and get referred to hospitals if needed, as well as having a warehouse staffed by two or three government nurses for routine visits and any and all daytime concerns. Think DMV but in a salvation army store.

Want free healthcare? Enjoy. Don't want the night nurse making that call? Don't use Medicaid.

==

Special facilities for Medicaid patients. I like this idea, and I'd bet a whole gaggle of doctors who take Medicaid patients at depressed rates would agree. You like your gov't healthcare, here ya go. You want better? Many ways to do that for yourself. But a Medicaid-only facility of doctors and nurses...3...2...1...stigma!! We certainly couldn't have that now, could we?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (JoUsr)

231 Ever have that co-worker who wears three layers and a winter coat at her desk in the middle of July when it's in the 90s, and she keeps turning the heat up and hugging herself, complaining that she's freezing?

Now make her your boss. Yikes. Three years of that.

These cold-blooded bird-people subject the Normal Majority to their insane body temperature aberrations.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (1XNk8)

232 Joe

Congrats to you, and the missus.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (cqNba)

233 Lutherans gave into the gays very early

Posted by: Jonah at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (AIG0e)

234 rickb223

Happy Birthday !
Posted by: JT


Thank you. Made another trip around the sun.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (ob5xJ)

235 He's already got a job and translates Homer from the original Greek into medieval French as a side-hobby.

Now if you could just stop him from reciting Homer in a very loud voice in the original Greek during the middle of the night, you'd have it made.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:25 AM (WI7YS)

236 235 He's already got a job and translates Homer from the original Greek into medieval French as a side-hobby.

Now if you could just stop him from reciting Homer in a very loud voice in the original Greek during the middle of the night, you'd have it made.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:25 AM (WI7YS)

===========

It's a problem. We're working on it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:25 AM (q80AH)

237
Thank you. Made another trip around the sun.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (ob5xJ)

Enjoy the day. It's a death spiral that gets faster and faster every orbit.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (hr2+k)

238 Congrats, Joe!

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (JoUsr)

239 Lutherans gave into the gays very early

Did they at least say

"But, first........" ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (arJlL)

240 Insiders have whispered in my ear that she is plea
dealing with the Feds, and willing to name names in the Baltimore
Pay-to-Pay way of government.



Could be an Epstein moment if she is put into a jail cell.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

========
I checked out just in time!

Posted by: Zombie Elijah Cummings at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (IttZ7)

241 Lutherans gave into the gays very early

Posted by: Jonah at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (AIG0e)



Not on Rev's side of the tracks. There is no "one" central Lutheran church.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (lwiT4)

242 reciting Homer in a very loud voice

D'OH!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (1XNk8)

243 These cold-blooded bird-people subject the Normal Majority to their insane body temperature aberrations.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (1XNk
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And you see, that's usually me. I'm one of those "put a sweater on, I'm cold" moms. So if it was too hot for ME, you know it was ridiculous.

Bonus is I think I lost 14 pounds. All water weight, though.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (aXucN)

244 (Second video)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice


Shoulda known.

And gratz joe & family!

Posted by: Brother Cavil at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (D5yyd)

245 As for rural care, I've already seen Lefties spouting off about how rural people will have to suffer because they've chosen to live there; if they want accessible care, then move to the cities, you inbred hicks.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (bDqIh)

=========

Let the goats and the remotely controlled combines do all the farming!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


No food leaves the farms for a month.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (ob5xJ)

246 The notion that instituting Medicare for All will result in a free market option is, IMO, a flawed premise. The authors mention three entities.

1. Concierge or subscription-based practices
2. Specialty surgical centers
3. Medical tourism for care elsewhere.


These are not really free market entities, they are more like black market entities.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2019 07:56 AM (m45I2)


There will be concierge and specialty clinics. The law will provide for these, but the only ones who can use them will be the well-connected. Buried in the law will be a provision for special and speedy care for critical public servants and for people who are deemed critical to the nation's economy, governance, and so forth. We all know this will happen and know how it will work.

Medical tourism for more than simple surgeries will not be affordable for anyone below upper middle class, due to the new explicit or hidden taxes everyone will be forced to pay. Disposable income for out-of-system medical will not be there for most.

Also:

How does medicare for all deal with dentistry? That could become pretty expensive.

Will plastic surgeons still be able to work, outside the Medicare for All regime? I expect so, and I expect many plastic surgery centers would become black market outlets for a lot of medical procedures and surgeries.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (AMIL/)

247 As for rural care, I've already seen Lefties spouting off about how rural people will have to suffer because they've chosen to live there; if they want accessible care, then move to the cities, you inbred hicks.

--

The rural counties averaging a 20%+ minority population and the 11% that are majority non-white?

Those rural places?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (aZuds)

248 "Special facilities for Medicaid patients. I like this idea, and I'd bet a whole gaggle of doctors who take Medicaid patients at depressed rates would agree. You like your gov't healthcare, here ya go."

I have often said, VA needs to get out of the Veteran Healthcare business.

Give veterans vouchers for their choice of healthcare coverage.

Now, what could we do with all those now emptied VA medical facilities, and underused VA doctors?


Thinking....thinking....


Hey, wait a minute!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (cqNba)

249 There is no "one" central Lutheran church.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:26 AM (lwiT4)

That was sort of baked into the design by Luther, wasn't it?

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (hr2+k)

250
Was it a real budget or just a "continue what we've been doing for the past decade" bullshit bill.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (xQfPr)

A continuing resolution till 12 DEC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 08:28 AM (85Gof)

251 175 Barbara Eden is on the Andy Griffith rerun this morning.

Absolutely smokin' hot.

--

Mr. Peebles suddenly wants a manicure.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 08:09 AM (JoUsr)

Everybody goin' to Floyd's for a manicure, including Otis.

Posted by: Some moke in Queens. at November 20, 2019 08:28 AM (MwFQu)

252 248
Now, what could we do with all those now emptied VA medical facilities, and underused VA doctors?


Thinking....thinking....


Hey, wait a minute!!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (cqNba)

==========

*nods sagaciously*

Paintball parks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:28 AM (q80AH)

253 It will be interesting to see where Lt. Col Boris Badenov's immediate career path takes him after he's done "Testifying" .
I mean, he's not just going to go back to his old desk and pick up where he left off is he?
When he gets back to work on Monday, the only password that should be working for him is the Pentagon Dessert Buffet Menu for that day.

Posted by: DOGGFISH at November 20, 2019 08:28 AM (lMn1U)

254 How does medicare for all deal with dentistry? That could become pretty expensive.

Medicare does NOT cover dentistry

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 08:28 AM (85Gof)

255 Now, what could we do with all those now emptied VA medical facilities, and underused VA doctors?


Thinking....thinking....


Hey, wait a minute!!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (cqNba)

==========

*nods sagaciously*

Paintball parks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Yay!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (ob5xJ)

256 Was it a real budget or just a "continue what we've been doing for the past decade" bullshit bill.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (xQfPr)


Pawning off Eddie Munster as a budgetary hawk was one of the GOP's bigger recent high exposure con jobs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (y7DUB)

257 I don't know how this Eric Squeezwell squeaked his way out of Fartgate, but the real narrative and obvious conspiracy of the week is this toxic emission that's rolling thru the antechambers of justice.

Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (2Mnv1)

258 Good Morning JJ and the illustrious Horde. Hump Day is upon us literally and figuratively - It makes me smile just thinking how much wine Nanzi is going through lately.. LOL

Keep it up Gimmedats, keep it up.

Ok, off to the comments....

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (c/XJZ)

259
Happy Birthday, rickb223. Enjoy your day!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (WI7YS)

260 Lutherans gave into the gays very early

--

Chick-Fil-A is hoping they'll eat them last.

And they're right.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (aZuds)

261 Medicare does NOT cover dentistry

That's a dick in the back !

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (arJlL)

262 Thank you. Made another trip around the sun.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (ob5xJ)


How cool you share a birthday with JJ!

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (ZfRYq)

263 Was it a real budget or just a "continue what we've been doing for the past decade" bullshit bill.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 20, 2019 08:13 AM (xQfPr)

A continuing resolution till 12 DEC
Posted by: Nevergiveup


When the impeachment vote takes place.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (ob5xJ)

264 Happy birthday, rickb223! I hope it involves cake.

And with that, I'm off to do stuff. See you later, peeps.

Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (aXucN)

265 262 Thank you. Made another trip around the sun.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:24 AM (ob5xJ)

How cool you share a birthday with JJ!
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (ZfRYq)

========

Don't we all...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (q80AH)

266 263 A continuing resolution till 12 DEC
Posted by: Nevergiveup


When the impeachment vote takes place.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:30 AM (ob5xJ)

===========

JackStraw was looking for a link to that. Did anyone ever find one? I'm just curious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (q80AH)

267 There will be concierge and specialty clinics. The law will provide for these, but the only ones who can use them will be the well-connected. Buried in the law will be a provision for special and speedy care for critical public servants and for people who are deemed critical to the nation's economy, governance, and so forth. We all know this will happen and know how it will work.

Medical tourism for more than simple surgeries will not be affordable for anyone below upper middle class, due to the new explicit or hidden taxes everyone will be forced to pay. Disposable income for out-of-system medical will not be there for most.

Also:

How does medicare for all deal with dentistry? That could become pretty expensive.

Will plastic surgeons still be able to work, outside the Medicare for All regime? I expect so, and I expect many plastic surgery centers would become black market outlets for a lot of medical procedures and surgeries.
Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 08:27 AM (AMIL/)

I read on the internet (so it must be true) that in the Netherlands, they consider sex "a basic human right" and that the government pays for hookers for some people.

So at least we'll have that going for us.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (KUaJL)

268 200 Morning Horde,

The wife and I just found out that we're (well, she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.

Thanks
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)

==========

Congratulations & God bless!

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (7HtZB)

269 Happy Happy rickb223 !!

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (lwiT4)

270 @realDonaldTrump 2 minutes ago

Nancy Pelosi will go down as the least productive Speaker of the House in history. She is dominated by AOC Plus 3 and the Radical Left. Mexico and Canada, after waiting for 6 months to be approved, are ready to flee - and who can blame them? Too bad!

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (cF8AT)

271 JJ your opening rocked. Morning all. Now to linkfu.

Posted by: Some hipster Cannibal at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (oY5lM)

272 How cool you share a birthday with JJ!
Posted by: blaster


*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (ob5xJ)

273 Thank you. Made another trip around the sun.

--

Last year my daughter told me "Congratulations on remaining alive for an additional year."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (aZuds)

274 Back in my twenties, when I was trying to be a Christian, I chose the LCA. That turned out to be a mistake when the pastor started coming on to me. That took care of any faith I might have had.

Now I walk the walk but don't talk the talk.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (fE1wp)

275 I'm just curious.

(yellow) ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:32 AM (arJlL)

276 Last year my daughter told me "Congratulations on remaining alive for an additional year."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (aZuds)

Birthdays are good for your health. People who have more of them live longer.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:32 AM (KUaJL)

277 Our only Chick-fil-a is closed for the rest of the month for renovations. Which seems strange. Mickey D's and others will completely overhaul locations and still keep the drive-thru's going.

Maybe their renovating the kitchens themselves to make SoiBurgers and SoiShakes for their new homies.

When they reopen I won't be in any hurry to go back. It's not a convenient location for me. I ate there mainly to support them.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:32 AM (1XNk8)

278 I am a veteran and I have a REAL radical idea for VA medical. The VA should only be providing medical care to those injured in the military.

They have unique skills and resources for that sort of trauma.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:32 AM (ZfRYq)

279 Uh oh...company is setting up a new web filtering service.

Will the HQ make it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:32 AM (q80AH)

280 I read on the internet (so it must be true) that in the Netherlands, they consider sex "a basic human right" and that the government pays for hookers for some people.

So at least we'll have that going for us.

--

Is that under the plan shared with the wife, or does it require an additional contract?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:33 AM (aZuds)

281
I wouldn't worry about impeachment in the next election. I would worry
about turnout. If you look at Virginia and Kentucky that's what won it
for Dems.



It's the canary in the coal mine, and the GOP is like, meh.



Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:03 AM---

Kentucky? Turnout was not an issue there, a horrible unpopular candidate was the driving force behind the dem wining Governor.


Republicans swept all of the other offices in that election and voted in a Republican AG for the first time in 72 years.


Kentucky will not be an issue next year.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 08:33 AM (JUOKG)

282 Congratulations, Joe. News like that is always welcome.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:33 AM (fE1wp)

283 That turned out to be a mistake when the pastor started coming on to me. That took care of any faith I might have had.


Especially when they're lesbian, with a 'wife'. Don't laugh - that's my cousin's church.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:33 AM (lwiT4)

284 He's already got a job and translates Homer from the original Greek into medieval French as a side-hobby.



Hopefully you'll be able to do better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
=
Pro tip - Don't use "job" in the spiel. Someone may think your child is performing . . and i apologize for saying it this way . . . manual labor.

much better to say the child has "been offered an internship"

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (D4EOp)

285 Especially when they're lesbian, with a 'wife'. Don't laugh - that's my cousin's church.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:33 AM (lwiT4)

Episcopalian?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (1XNk8)

286 200 Morning Horde,

The wife and I just found out that we're (well, she's) pregnant with our second! We'd appreciate your prayers for our growing family.

Thanks
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:19 AM (KUaJL)

Congrats Joe & Mrs. Joe!

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (cF8AT)

287 Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:22 AM (C1Lsn)


Yeah, I agree with that. He's running in 2028 for sure. Maybe even 2024.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (zBaqJ)

===

Disagree. He is a poor campaigner and he barely won election.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (EZebt)

288 Epsteinopalian

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:35 AM (aZuds)

289 287 Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2019 07:22 AM (C1Lsn)


Yeah, I agree with that. He's running in 2028 for sure. Maybe even 2024.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 07:23 AM (zBaqJ)

===

Disagree. He is a poor campaigner and he barely won election.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (EZebt)

=========

This is truly the story of Kamala Harris.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:35 AM (q80AH)

290 Episcopalian?





Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (1XNk



ELCA

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:35 AM (lwiT4)

291 Kentucky? Turnout was not an issue there, a horrible unpopular candidate was the driving force behind the dem wining Governor.

Exactly. The GOP still doesn't understand that upchucking unlikeable candidates isn't a smart thing to do particularly in high exposure races.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM (y7DUB)

292 291 Kentucky? Turnout was not an issue there, a horrible unpopular candidate was the driving force behind the dem wining Governor.

Exactly. The GOP still doesn't understand that upchucking unlikeable candidates isn't a smart thing to do particularly in high exposure races.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM (y7DUB)

========

Well, he was an incumbent who had won his previous statewide election for the same seat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM (q80AH)

293 JackStraw was looking for a link to that. Did anyone ever find one? I'm just curious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (q80AH)


The calendar just lists voting days. It doesn't say "impeachment vote here."

But the resolution on impeachment - HR660 - says it goes to Judiciary from Intel. And then:

The Committee on the Judiciary shall report to the House of Representatives such resolutions, articles of impeachment, or other recommendations as it deems proper.



Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM (ZfRYq)

294
So, another promise of cleaning up a sinkhole of government that will change very little because the voters have grown to like the state of affairs and will just vote in more crooks.


Why else the push for voter turnout in these rotten boroughs, other than more uninformed voters who will vote the way they're pushed?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 08:37 AM (oVJmc)

295 Dog has adorable reaction to soldier's return:

https://tinyurl.com/sy3v8tz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:38 AM (WI7YS)

296 293 The calendar just lists voting days. It doesn't say "impeachment vote here."

But the resolution on impeachment - HR660 - says it goes to Judiciary from Intel. And then:

The Committee on the Judiciary shall report to the House of Representatives such resolutions, articles of impeachment, or other recommendations as it deems proper.



Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM (ZfRYq)

==========

How curious. I mean, Democrats are just honest brokers looking for the answers to questions that worry them about the state of American diplomacy, and they're in the middle of their investigation. Why would they plan on this being wrapped up by a certain date?

It's a mystery...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:38 AM (q80AH)

297
Disagree. He is a poor campaigner and he barely won election.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (EZebt)



I'll defer to your knowledge of SF politics. That said, look at the Democrat field and who they have in congress. Next time around, if it ain't Chesa Boudin it will be someone who is just like him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:39 AM (zBaqJ)

298 Dog has adorable reaction to soldier's return:

--

I can't even watch the ones where the kids are surprised at school or ball games or such. Love them, but jeez those things get to me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:39 AM (aZuds)

299 @266

It's also literally the last day Congress is in sesssion, so that will be the day the uniparty tries to ram suprise anal through the sluices.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 08:39 AM (gceDY)

300 grammie, the pastor was a "he" and he did have a wife. That contributed a lot to my confusion. Dog knows what I'd have thought of a lesbian minister.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:39 AM (fE1wp)

301 292 291 Kentucky? Turnout was not an issue there, a horrible unpopular candidate was the driving force behind the dem wining Governor.

Exactly. The GOP still doesn't understand that upchucking unlikeable candidates isn't a smart thing to do particularly in high exposure races.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM (y7DUB)

========

Well, he was an incumbent who had won his previous statewide election for the same seat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM


Wasn't that victory a bit on the close side too?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (SjIcT)

302 How curious. I mean, Democrats are just honest brokers looking for the answers to questions that worry them about the state of American diplomacy, and they're in the middle of their investigation. Why would they plan on this being wrapped up by a certain date?

It's a mystery...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:38 AM (q80AH)


I know, snark tag I guess.

They are rushing this to get it done because they have a pre-ordained outcome.

Christmas break would mess with their momentum.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (ZfRYq)

303 The Democrats should last-minute through Christmas like Obamacare. Same day and everything. That would be awesome.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (aZuds)

304 >>I read on the internet (so it must be true) that in the Netherlands,
they consider sex "a basic human right" and that the government pays for
hookers for some people.



So at least we'll have that going for us.- - - -


They also consider euthanasia a a basic human right, and they happily off babies born sick, an also assist depressed people such as teens who are having a tough time dealing with being raped!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (bDqIh)

305 301
Well, he was an incumbent who had won his previous statewide election for the same seat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM


Wasn't that victory a bit on the close side too?
Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (SjIcT)

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Bevin won that by 9%.

Apparently, he really pissed off the teachers unions in the following four years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:41 AM (q80AH)

306 It's also literally the last day Congress is in sesssion, so that will be the day the uniparty tries to ram suprise anal through the sluices.
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 08:39 AM (gceDY)


Last voting day of the calendar year. But not last day in session.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:41 AM (ZfRYq)

307 Just turned on Fox and there is Wallace and Bair bloviating that Sondland is the wild card and they are predicting this is a big day. He will be the biggy for the Democrats. White House is "worried." Wallace saying someone has some 'splainin' to do (insinuating Trump)

Posted by: AnnaS at November 20, 2019 08:41 AM (l4l/z)

308 How curious. I mean, Democrats are just honest brokers looking for the answers to questions that worry them about the state of American diplomacy, and they're in the middle of their investigation. Why would they plan on this being wrapped up by a certain date?

It's a mystery...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Maybe because they adjourn on the 14th?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:41 AM (ob5xJ)

309 297
Disagree. He is a poor campaigner and he barely won election.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (EZebt)



I'll defer to your knowledge of SF politics. That said, look at the Democrat field and who they have in congress. Next time around, if it ain't Chesa Boudin it will be someone who is just like him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:39 AM (zBaqJ)


The presidency was about the only election Obama won with any sort of legitimacy wasn't it? Weren't all his other elections won by dirty tricks removing his strongest rival like how he became senator?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (SjIcT)

310 AtC would like this picture, I think

https://tinyurl.com/sdokfvj

(and no, AtC, if you see this you don't have to worry that I'm doing a head fake with a picture of a giant spider.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (WI7YS)

311 305 Apparently, he really pissed off the teachers unions in the following four years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:41 AM (q80AH)

That alone should have motivated KY conservatives to come out. Again, I am not a local so I have no idea.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (zBaqJ)

312 my pa used the term 'lite turds' when referring to Lt. Colonels...

He was but a simple chief warrant officer.

Posted by: LoneRanger at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (C+gy5)

313 I read on the internet (so it must be true) that in the Netherlands, they consider sex "a basic human right" and that the government pays for hookers for some people.

So at least we'll have that going for us.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:31 AM (KUaJL)

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True, and the EU "Human Rights" Court forced the UK to pay for a guy on welfare to fly to Amsterdam for hookers because it was a basic human right.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (RIvx9)

314 meta...Does anyone know if TJM hit the trifecta last night with "404 - Comment not found"?

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (fE1wp)

315 In the Dem Donor Michael Bills Accused of Quid Pro Quo in Virginia. article it mentions that
Democrat Joe Morrissey, was forced to resign for a sexual relationship with a minor in 2014, served jail time and was re-elected.
Virginia has becoming as corrupt and hopeless as California.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (wiXsO)

316 314 meta...Does anyone know if TJM hit the trifecta last night with "404 - Comment not found"?
Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (fE1wp)

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I missed once. It was just so embarrassing. I don't like talking about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:43 AM (q80AH)

317 29 If being a public servant is so difficult and dangerous, why has every lib I have ever known wanted to be one?

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (MxEKc)

Right? Bennies , security and with any luck they'll have some 'power' over us peons. Even if its at the DMV. Oh and when I here a lefty has founded or runs a ' non-profit' I laugh and think government grants or money laundering its incenstuous.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 08:43 AM (oY5lM)

318 Well, he was an incumbent who had won his previous statewide election for the same seat.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:36 AM

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And he was the most unpopular Governor in the US.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 08:44 AM (JUOKG)

319 They are rushing this to get it done because they have a pre-ordained outcome.

Christmas break would mess with their momentum.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (ZfRYq)

That 10 point opposition to impeachment jump among independents could well be a 15 point jump by Dec. 12....so good luck with that, Nan.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 08:44 AM (cF8AT)

320 The Democrats should last-minute through Christmas like Obamacare. Same day and everything. That would be awesome.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


The House should go ahead and impeach on the 13th, and the senate proclaim on the 14th, "no floor vote, impeachment is doa and we are adjourned"!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:45 AM (ob5xJ)

321 Wallace just saying this is "painful jeopardy" for the president. I gotta turn this shit off. Rush is so right about Fox!

Posted by: AnnaS at November 20, 2019 08:45 AM (l4l/z)

322 I would just like to say again how much I appreciate Jim Jordan; He is a very good questioner. I'm assuming he's a lawyer as with a huge percentage of the Congress, but Elise Stefanik is not a lawyer and Bill Jacobsen has an essay at "Legal Insurrection-an essay which commends her for her skilled questioning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:45 AM (WI7YS)

323 "Foreign-Born Researchers At US Agencies Were Secretly Working For China And Recruiting Others, Senate Report Finds"

and which sellout CongressCritters, over the last 30 years, sold their soul to China for donations and various forms of graft?

imo Mitch is at the top of the list, DiFi ... NAFTA people also, since China sold through Canada and Mexico to avoid taxes ... the corruption that got us here is deep. But the Clintons in the 90s ... yeah, they kinda led the way ... or Nixon, just what was his plan in opening that door? (maybe as an economic front to divide any China Russia alliance?)


This guy says China has to invest 7 yuan in the economy, to get one yuan economic growth. Recall the left claiming when government puts one dollar in our economy, it has a multiplier effect of 1.7 or some such ... which may be true in certain cases, but is not an inflexible law like gravity. At some point "free money" breaks the economic concepts on labor and currency. China is an example.

He also says much of the economic power of Hong Kong has been moved to other regions inside (red) China, and the new generation in Hong Kong does not have a promising future ahead. He also sees other countries gaining economic power as China has many "issues", an aging population for one.
Real Vision video -- Tony Nash
youtube.com/watch?v=KGkeseiilMQ

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 08:46 AM (Cus5s)

324 If being a public servant is so difficult and dangerous, why has every lib I have ever known wanted to be one?

Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2019 07:19 AM (MxEKc)

That just goes to show how they're all so selfless and altruistic. Like Jesus. Libs are basically Jesus. All of them. Perfectly loving the Gospel.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 08:46 AM (KUaJL)

325 Likin' the cut of Elise Stefanik's jib. Think I'll drop her a contribution.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:46 AM (1XNk8)

326 256

Pawning off Eddie Munster as a budgetary hawk was one of the GOP's bigger recent high exposure con jobs.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 08:29 AM (y7DUB)

Yes, addition by subtraction, whoever it was that replaced him.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 08:47 AM (Z3oWA)

327 325 Likin' the cut of Elise Stefanik's jib. Think I'll drop her a contribution.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:46 AM (1XNk

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If I remember correctly, she's actually kinda RINO-y. Pro gay marriage and stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:47 AM (q80AH)

328 True, and the EU "Human Rights" Court forced the UK to pay for a guy on welfare to fly to Amsterdam for hookers because it was a basic human right.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter


Indigents get the skank, 82 yr old hooker.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:47 AM (ob5xJ)

329 (and no, AtC, if you see this you don't have to worry that I'm doing a head fake with a picture of a giant spider.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (WI7YS)


Heidi needs a puppy shiatsu.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 08:47 AM (oY5lM)

330 Think I'll drop her a contribution.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:46 AM (1XNk

That's a good idea. I'm sure she could use, it since leftist are encouraging their comrades to donate to her opponent because Stefanik is a "big old meanie".Elise seems to have learned from Donald Trump about using nicknames. She calls her opponent "taxing Tessa".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:49 AM (WI7YS)

331 290 Episcopalian?





Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 20, 2019 08:34 AM (1XNk



ELCA
Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 08:35 AM (lwiT4)

Am I the only one who heard "ELCA" with The Village People singing?

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 08:49 AM (7HtZB)

332 Chris Wallace needs plenty of time at the Dignity Canal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 08:49 AM (1NJJk)

333 Congratulations on the exciting news, joe living dangerously.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2019 08:50 AM (wiXsO)

334 That 10 point opposition to impeachment jump among independents could well be a 15 point jump by Dec. 12....so good luck with that, Nan.
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 08:44 AM (cF8AT)


40% of the Dem caucus voted to impeach Trump over tweets about the squad.

The more I think about it, they are going to make non-specific articles. Abuse of Power and Conduct Unbecoming the President of the US.

Then they are going to run against Republicans for defending the indefensible.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for them.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:50 AM (ZfRYq)

335 Am I the only one who heard "ELCA" with The Village People singing?
Posted by: josephistan



How do you make the E?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:50 AM (ob5xJ)

336 Heidi needs a puppy shiatsu.

Is that like ""John has a long mustache" ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (arJlL)

337 302 How curious. I mean, Democrats are just honest brokers looking for the answers to questions that worry them about the state of American diplomacy, and they're in the middle of their investigation. Why would they plan on this being wrapped up by a certain date?

It's a mystery...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:38 AM (q80AH)

I know, snark tag I guess.

They are rushing this to get it done because they have a pre-ordained outcome.

Christmas break would mess with their momentum.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:40 AM (ZfRYq)


The Articles of Impeachment are already written, lacking only some details to be filled-in using info from depositions and public hearings to be completed within the next week. I do wonder how the Judiciary Committee and then Pelosi will proceed, while paying lip-service to fairness and the gravity of the situation. Will Nadler schedule a vote the day after the proposed Articles are published (pehaps the first day after the Thanksgiving recess), giving each committee member 5 minutes for public "debate?" How much time will Pelosi allot for debate in the full House? I'm sure Pelosi has all of this mapped-out, and I'm sure McCarthy will have few if any options to slow-up the steamroller.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (AMIL/)

338 334
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for them.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:50 AM (ZfRYq)

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Dogde. Duck. Dip. Dive. And Dodge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (q80AH)

339 @ChadPergram

Today's impeachment hearing could be a doozy. Sondland is the most controversial witness to come forward yet. Sondland amended his testimony, indicating there was a quid pro quo. But in text msgs w/acting Amb to Ukraine Taylor, Sondland indicated those suggestions were overplayed

Sondland was at the center of the now infamous "overheard phone call" where there were indications all Trump cared about was investigating the Bidens & not Ukrainian security

One big question today is will Sondland invoke a 5th Amendment shield? There are some here who believe Sondland may face potential criminal exposure. Remember that Sondland is a "Republican" witness.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (cF8AT)

340 That alone should have motivated KY conservatives to come out. Again, I am not a local so I have no idea.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (zBaqJ)


J.J., that's the Achilles heel for rural areas. Conservatism goes out the window when "it's for the chirren".

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:52 AM (fE1wp)

341 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:47 AM (q80AH)

I don't know about that, but she supports Trump and thinks this impeachment is a sham. She's certainly better than "taxing Tessa"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:52 AM (WI7YS)

342 The more I think about it, they are going to make non-specific articles. Abuse of Power and Conduct Unbecoming the President of the US.

Then they are going to run against Republicans for defending the indefensible.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for them.

Posted by: blaster


Then the Senate acquits, Trump addresses Congress and upon entering the chamber, grabs Nancy by the cooter.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 08:53 AM (ob5xJ)

343 341 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:47 AM (q80AH)

I don't know about that, but she supports Trump and thinks this impeachment is a sham. She's certainly better than "taxing Tessa"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:52 AM (WI7YS)

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That's true. Just...let's not get overexcited.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:53 AM (q80AH)

344 311 305 Apparently, he really pissed off the teachers unions in the following four years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:41 AM (q80AH)

That alone should have motivated KY conservatives to come out. Again, I am not a local so I have no idea.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (zBaqJ)

He picked a fight with the Teacher's Unions because he was seriously trying to curb spending. There's a hard to swallow, long term lesson here that I think Trump gets, but most of us can't, yet. Anyone who seriously and diligently tries to cut spending that people have gotten used to is going to lose their next election. It's something that can only be done by someone who's just won re-election and who has 70% plus majorities in his legislature; without that, it's political death.

now I'm sure someone will point out that this means that long term, we're screwed. Well, yep - no argument there.

Only possible defense is to remember that we really are in a war for survival. In a war, you can only focus on winning. Of course you're going to be bankrupt when it's over, no way to win a war without throwing everything you have into it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 08:53 AM (V2Yro)

345 321 Wallace just saying this is "painful jeopardy" for the president. I gotta turn this shit off. Rush is so right about Fox!
Posted by: AnnaS at November 20, 2019 08:45 AM (l4l/z)


He goes on Wallace's show once a month. I hope he now stops that shit or goes on and rips him a new one on the air.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:54 AM (zBaqJ)

346 OT:

There was news that some Hollywood executive tried to convince the makers of the new Harriet Tubman movie to cast Julia Roberts as Harriet because it all happened so long ago that no one will care.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:54 AM (q80AH)

347 Fen- did you ever check out the fart vid?

You don't wanna be the only person in the USA that didn't hear "The Fart Heard 'Round the World", do ya ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (arJlL)

348 That's true. Just...let's not get overexcited.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:53 AM (q80AH)

I can't get too excited. She's not in my district. I just like her questioning and think she's a better candidate than Taxing Tessa.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (WI7YS)

349 There are some in CONgress that I support, but I never completely trust anybody

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (1NJJk)

350 340 That alone should have motivated KY conservatives to come out. Again, I am not a local so I have no idea.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (zBaqJ)

J.J., that's the Achilles heel for rural areas. Conservatism goes out the window when "it's for the chirren".

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:52 AM (fE1wp)


I get that. The problem is kids are not getting educated; they're getting brainwashed. The money is one thing; the long-term child abuse is something else entirely and that should be fought openly and with no quarter given.

That commie Red-for-Ed group was out in full force and they succeeded.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (zBaqJ)

351 Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (arJlL)

I just watched the infrared one, because some nice person here told me I should.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:56 AM (WI7YS)

352 336 Heidi needs a puppy shiatsu.

Is that like ""John has a long mustache" ?

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (arJlL)



The pig has left the nest.

I took care of that thing for you.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 08:56 AM (oY5lM)

353 @346

He was probably sleeping with her because Roberts is for all intents and purposes a washed up actress past her prime with no following or cultural currency.


Besides, she wasn't a particularly good actress when she was a thing.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 08:57 AM (gceDY)

354 * Meant to add Louisiana. That's the one we should find more troubling. They had very high Dem turnout those people are not voting for Trump.

In Kentucky my only worry was that some sites were noting that Dem turnout was much higher than previous elections. Sucky candidate aside, that shows a pattern across at least three states.

I always wonder whether voters in the GOP will get off their asses and actually vote.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 08:57 AM (F73W5)

355 Cannibal Bob, how's the hip thing going for you? Heidi gave us a very positive report the other day.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (3Z6pZ)

356 You know, the Star Trek TNG episode 'The Inner Light' is beautifully written, beautifully performed, beautifully shot and based on an utterly stupid central premise.

OK, so the Kataan civilization is about to be wiped out when their sun goes Nova. So, they launch a space probe with the purpose of injecting a lifetime of memories about their civilization into one person, who turns out to be Picard. With the end result that Picard has these memories and learns how to play the flute.

And... that's it. At the end of the episode, Riker tells Picard the probe shut down and there's nothing on it but a box with a flute inside. One guy holds the memory of their civilization. And then, what happens when Picard dies? Seems like there might have been other ways to preserve your civilization's memory.

Now, maybe they were counting on Picard to write a treatise on the Kataan Civilization, or maybe write a holodeck program about the little desert village where he lived in his memory. But then in the (much, much worse) season 7 episode Lessons, Picard doesn't even tell his girlfriend about Kataan. So, it seems unlikely he told anyone.

That's just always bugged me.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (O7MnT)

357 Israeli papers are reporting Pompeo will resign to run for the Senate.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (85Gof)

358 "Wallace just saying this is "painful jeopardy" for the president. I gotta turn this shit off. Rush is so right about Fox!" Posted by: AnnaS

Wallace and a few others are "used car salesmen" for the left's coup. They are pitching their old Kommie Kar coup as if it was only driven by a little old lady driving to church on Sundays. It is worse coming from FOX since the low info semi-conservative may think they are fair and balanced, instead of more leftist agitprop selling the coup.

The evening lineup at FOX is mostly good, but that also lends credence to the daytime lefties posing as neutral arbiters of "news".

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (Cus5s)

359 Will Nadler schedule a vote the day after the proposed Articles are published (pehaps the first day after the Thanksgiving recess), giving each committee member 5 minutes for public "debate?" How much time will Pelosi allot for debate in the full House? I'm sure Pelosi has all of this mapped-out, and I'm sure McCarthy will have few if any options to slow-up the steamroller.
Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (AMIL/)


Thanksgiving recess starts this Friday afternoon. Schiff's phase of the impeachment ends tomorrow. Theoretically his committee writes up a report and sends evidence to Judiciary. House is not back to "work" until Tuesday, Dec 3.

So they have to draft the bill of impeachment and vote on it and then have it go to the floor. The Dems control all aspects of that, they can get it done in that timeframe. Dec 12 is last voting day of the year.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (ZfRYq)

360 If I remember correctly, she's actually kinda RINO-y. Pro gay marriage and stuff.

Trump is pro-gay-marriage too. I need to hear worse heresies to call someone a RINO.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (6XLoz)

361 I missed once. It was just so embarrassing. I don't like talking about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:43 AM (q80AH)


Saw that. You were only one off. Sounds like you got the turkey with maybe a strike to spare.


Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 08:59 AM (fE1wp)

362 Data points rattling around my head:

41% of the people wanted Trump impeached before a single second of testimony

Scheiff promised the Dem caucus Trump threatened eight times to withhold aid unless Ukraine dug up dirt on Biden

The leaky Whistleblower most certainly promised Scheiff he had seen the call transcript

LTC Memorex admits to trying to access the transcript in the secure server; others then did as well

Trump says he caught them, caught them all

If one wrote a spy novel on the deep state coup, no one would believe it as it's too brazen and incompetent.

The mere fact that Trump has survived the overwhelming forces against him suggests he is in the game counterattacking.

Did Trump leave a phony transcript for Vinderman or others to see?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 20, 2019 09:00 AM (k81AA)

363 The French elected the "conservative" Chirac to reign in spending and reduce the government Leviathan. When he tried to do it, they turned on him, they didn't mean their spending, they meant the other guy's spending. They elected Sarkozy to reign in spending and cut down the government Leviathan. When he tried to do it, they turned on him and said, "I don't mean spending on me, I mean spending on the OTHER guy!".
There is a reason Rand Paul was in single digits the Repubs had a presidential primary. Who is going to support him? This guy wants to cut our benefits and reduce government pay. Where do i sign up!
I get he was not a great candidate, no argument there. But no chance any right libertarian wins a national primary or election. You have to offer people something other than belief in the individual and the free market.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:00 AM (n13/j)

364 > That commie Red-for-Ed group was out in full force and they succeeded.

Yup.

That group here in KY spent every other week protesting Bevin instead of "teaching." Some issues about whether or not they should get paid for "protesting" while they should have been in the classroom were brought up. Lot's of noise about that.

Bevin pissed off all the right people and paid the price for it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2019 09:00 AM (3H9h1)

365 The Articles of Impeachment are already written, lacking only some details to be filled-in using info from depositions and public hearings to be completed within the next week. I do wonder how the Judiciary Committee and then Pelosi will proceed, while paying lip-service to fairness and the gravity of the situation. Will Nadler schedule a vote the day after the proposed Articles are published (pehaps the first day after the Thanksgiving recess), giving each committee member 5 minutes for public "debate?" How much time will Pelosi allot for debate in the full House? I'm sure Pelosi has all of this mapped-out, and I'm sure McCarthy will have few if any options to slow-up the steamroller.
Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2019 08:51 AM (AMIL/)

I agree completely that this was the Plan all along. But... the absolute disaster of these public hearings has thrown a wrench into their finally laid out plans. Schiff had promised slam-dunk quid pro quo and bribery testimony; instead, he's got nothing. The 20 or 30 Dem House members in Trump districts are going to be key. It was easy to talk them into going along with "just an inquiry", but now? Especially when failure in the Senate is guaranteed?

As far as the idea of just having a general complaint, such as "abuse of power", the problem is that the Constitution calls for a Trial of Specific "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", based on specific charges. A general complaint won't meet Constitutional standards, and demands immediate dismissal with no trial at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (V2Yro)

366 356
Now, maybe they were counting on Picard to write a treatise on the Kataan Civilization, or maybe write a holodeck program about the little desert village where he lived in his memory. But then in the (much, much worse) season 7 episode Lessons, Picard doesn't even tell his girlfriend about Kataan. So, it seems unlikely he told anyone.

That's just always bugged me.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (O7MnT)

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Ronald D. Moore blamed the general episodic format of TNG for the lack of follow up. He specifically bemoaned the fact that by the next episode, Picard was back to his normal self.

But that was the bane of the episodic show. You don't have big emotional moments that affect characters for seasons on end. You have to return to normal by the next episode because if someone missed the last episode they won't feel lost.

But yeah, The Inner Light is probably the best episode of Star Trek. It's sad and gentle while also using a simple sci-fi hook to tell the story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (q80AH)

367 rein not reign.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (n13/j)

368 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 08:53 AM (V2Yro)


On spending people get used to. Applies to all entitlements.

If a you give a man a Turkey every week for a year and then stop. He's not going to say "thank you for the turkeys." He's going to say "where's my fucking turkey??"

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 09:02 AM (oY5lM)

369 There's a picture of a smiling Stefanik in the article about her at Legal Insurrection. I wonder how leftists will do a rude, fake photoshop on that one?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:02 AM (WI7YS)

370 I get that. The problem is kids are not getting educated; they're getting brainwashed. The money is one thing; the long-term child abuse is something else entirely and that should be fought openly and with no quarter given.

That commie Red-for-Ed group was out in full force and they succeeded.


351 Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (arJlL)


Is there a specific reason why some state hasn't seriously tried implementing a statewide voucher program?

I feel like it shouldn't actually be that hard of a sell. Put up a figure showing what the state is currently spending per kid per year on schools. Declare that that amount is instead going to be directed into a voucher that the parents get to pick the school.

Do the teachers unions have some sort of contract that the state has guaranteed that they're going to be getting some amount of money in perpetuity or something?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:02 AM (KUaJL)

371 "Anyone who seriously and diligently tries to cut spending that people have gotten used to is going to lose their next election."

So true. Whether you like Bevin or not, he was trying to hold the line on spending. Where exactly do the voters think that money will come from? Do they think Democrats have some magic beans that are going to foot the bill? It coming from taxpayers in some form. Oh and news flash. They are not taking it from some other program or the rich.

The concept of budgeting and finite resources just does not compute with the people who voted for the Democrat.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 09:03 AM (F73W5)

372 365 I agree completely that this was the Plan all along. But... the absolute disaster of these public hearings has thrown a wrench into their finally laid out plans. Schiff had promised slam-dunk quid pro quo and bribery testimony; instead, he's got nothing. The 20 or 30 Dem House members in Trump districts are going to be key. It was easy to talk them into going along with "just an inquiry", but now? Especially when failure in the Senate is guaranteed?


Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (V2Yro)

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I predict there will be no floor vote for articles. Instead, there will be a censure vote against Trump that will probably pass (though that wouldn't necessarily be guaranteed).

Red district Democrats will then find themselves facing ads about how they voted to impeach Trump after promising their constituents that they wouldn't.

"Well, I didn't vote for impeachment, just a measure to advance the inquiry..."

"Bored! You voted for impeachment!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:03 AM (q80AH)

373 f a you give a man a Turkey every week for a year
and then stop. He's not going to say "thank you for the turkeys." He's
going to say "where's my fucking turkey??"

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 09:02 AM (oY5lM)

this is some really clear political philosophy right here. I am not going to add to it as it is that good.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:04 AM (n13/j)

374 Sondland is apparently going to testify that there was 'quid pro quo'. Blake Berman (can't stand him) is reading parts of his opening statement.


Good idea R's calling this guy....

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 09:04 AM (cF8AT)

375 346 OT:

There was news that some Hollywood executive tried to convince the makers of the new Harriet Tubman movie to cast Julia Roberts as Harriet because it all happened so long ago that no one will care.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 08:54 AM (q80AH)

That's the most hilariously stupid thing I've read in a while.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:04 AM (KUaJL)

376 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (q80AH)
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Story arcs didn't come in in a big way until B5.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 20, 2019 09:04 AM (3Z6pZ)

377
Sondland, who is (probably) a pedo and a crook, is going to backstab the president and lie for the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 09:04 AM (A3yzb)

378 Is there a specific reason why some state hasn't seriously tried implementing a statewide voucher program?



I feel like it shouldn't actually be that hard of a sell. Put up a
figure showing what the state is currently spending per kid per year on
schools. Declare that that amount is instead going to be directed into a
voucher that the parents get to pick the school.



Charter schools can be a good alternative as well. My grandkids go to a charter school that was just ranked No.14 out of 1600 elementary schools in the state. But they have teachers who teach, so.....

Posted by: grammie winger at November 20, 2019 09:05 AM (lwiT4)

379 377
Sondland, who is (probably) a pedo and a crook, is going to backstab the president and lie for the Democrats.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 09:04 AM (A3yzb)

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"Why are you having personal phone calls with the president about potentially illegal acts in public spaces? Are you some kind of moron?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:05 AM (q80AH)

380
....But that was the bane of the episodic show. You
don't have big emotional moments that affect characters for seasons on
end. You have to return to normal by the next episode because if someone
missed the last episode they won't feel lost.



But yeah, The Inner Light is probably the best episode of Star Trek.
It's sad and gentle while also using a simple sci-fi hook to tell the
story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (q80AH)


That was why Babylon 5 was so good, I think. Straczynski threaded the needle in terms of having closure to each episode while moving the larger story arc forward.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (IttZ7)

381 357 Israeli papers are reporting Pompeo will resign to run for the Senate.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2019 08:58 AM (85Gof)

It's the Kansas seat being vacated by Robertson, I think. He'd do well there, if that's what he wants. A little more job security than he's got.

And this idea has been floating around for 6 months now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (V2Yro)

382

In fact, if Sondland is the pedo crook shit I suspect he is, he will
even use the focus-group-approved term "bribery" to please shiff.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (A3yzb)

383
He was probably sleeping with her because Roberts is for all intents and purposes a washed up actress past her prime with no following or cultural currency.


Besides, she wasn't a particularly good actress when she was a thing.
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 20, 2019 08:57 AM (gceDY)








Must be he was banging her, because JR hasn't starred in a true hit film in what, 15 years? She's simply not a box office draw anymore.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (kw0bd)

384 380 That was why Babylon 5 was so good, I think. Straczynski threaded the needle in terms of having closure to each episode while moving the larger story arc forward.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (IttZ7)

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I watched the first half of the first season. I thought it was pretty good and just never continued.

A friend of mine kept going at the same time, and he just started to hate it in the late seasons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (q80AH)

385 Almost every thinking person I know has there kids in private or charter schools. But some people don't have the resources or local availability.

Voucher systems would be the final nail in a public school system for many communities l.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 09:07 AM (F73W5)

386 As far as the idea of just having a general complaint, such as "abuse of power", the problem is that the Constitution calls for a Trial of Specific "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", based on specific charges. A general complaint won't meet Constitutional standards, and demands immediate dismissal with no trial at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (V2Yro)


Kinda. I mean, here is what the Constitution says, and everyone loves saying that High Crimes and Misdemeanors means whatever the House says it does. And this why they are saying "bribery" now, because it is actually in the Constitution.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The UCMJ includes article 133, Conduct Unbecoming, which is often called the "catch all" article in military law.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 09:07 AM (ZfRYq)

387 Good morning kids. Wednesday and for those of us living in the real world, the Democrats' case for impeaching and removing Trump from office collapsed like a wet pierogi yesterday when its star witness, the puffy Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman (in service of whose army he wears the uniform for still a topic for debate).
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No. You have to chant "I do believe in impeachment--I do--I do!"

Posted by: Adam Schiff (D-CA) at November 20, 2019 09:07 AM (DuZls)

388 I watched the first half of the first season. I thought it was pretty good and just never continued.

A friend of mine kept going at the same time, and he just started to hate it in the late seasons.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (q80AH)

Isn't that the case with just about any show that goes on for more than about 4 seasons?

Either a show gets cancelled early or goes on long enough to be a shell of its former self.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:08 AM (KUaJL)

389 She's simply not a box office draw anymore.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 09:06 AM (kw0bd)

She did a fine job in "Pretty Woman," and...um...lots of other movies!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2019 09:08 AM (wYseH)

390 385 Almost every thinking person I know has there kids in private or charter schools. But some people don't have the resources or local availability.

Voucher systems would be the final nail in a public school system for many communities l.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 09:07 AM (F73W5)

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Junior goes to a public school. It's one of the best elementary schools in the area, and we bought our house in this part of town specifically so he could go there.

If we got a voucher to go anywhere, we'd move to a much cheaper part of town pretty much overnight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:08 AM (q80AH)

391 School vouchers are way overdue. This is the only way to combat the Culture War that the NEA is waging. Let the parents decide what is best for their kids. Its clear Big Globalism wants to degrade us into compliant drones.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:09 AM (yRAFu)

392 The President MUST wear the dunce cap we've made for him, the President is NOT above the law!

The President must clean the toilets in our offices--the President is NOT above the law!

Posted by: Democrat Nonsequiturs at November 20, 2019 09:09 AM (DuZls)

393 Pompeo looks tired. That man has been doing a lot of the heavy lifting. He needs to give himself a break.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 09:09 AM (F73W5)

394 388 Isn't that the case with just about any show that goes on for more than about 4 seasons?

Either a show gets cancelled early or goes on long enough to be a shell of its former self.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:08 AM (KUaJL)

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The Simpsons was at its best between season 4 and 10 or so.

But yeah, most shows generally wear out their welcome, especially those that pursue story arcs. You have to keep coming up with excuses why this specific story needs to keep going for 10-25 hours year after year.

The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:10 AM (q80AH)

395 But yeah, The Inner Light is probably the best episode of Star Trek. It's sad and gentle while also using a simple sci-fi hook to tell the story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:01 AM (q80AH)

I agree, it was a marvelous bit of writing. It also made great use of a concept that shows up in a lot of C.S. Lewis' works, and others - the idea that one go into another world psychically and an entire lifetime can pass while in this world, only a few minutes go by.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (V2Yro)

396
Meanwhile, LTC Bearclaw's finest work, a report on the growing pastry gap between the U.S. and Russia, remains unopened and unread in the IN boxes of his superiors in the blended Ukrainio-American chain of command that he cobbled together in his demented snd treasonous mind.

Ponder that!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (pNxlR)

397 Screwing with Soros' plans for Ukraine is painful but necessary.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (yRAFu)

398 The president needs to stop tweeting, he is NOT above the law!

Posted by: Democrat Nonsequiturs at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (DuZls)

399 395
I agree, it was a marvelous bit of writing. It also made great use of a concept that shows up in a lot of C.S. Lewis' works, and others - the idea that one go into another world psychically and an entire lifetime can pass while in this world, only a few minutes go by.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (V2Yro)

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Roy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzVlQ653as

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (q80AH)

400 398 The president needs to stop tweeting, he is NOT above the law!
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Please note that Trump has not tweeted during this charade. I sense real news on the horizon.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:12 AM (yRAFu)

401 Schiff looks awfully stiff in the Impeachment Inquiry. I suppose he thinks he needs to maintain gravitas as head of the Intelligence Committee, but he looks inhuman he's so stiff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:13 AM (WI7YS)

402 True, and the EU "Human Rights" Court forced the UK to pay for a guy on welfare to fly to Amsterdam for hookers because it was a basic human right.

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The UK has paid for boob jobs*, so this isn't a stretch, as completely ludicrous as it is. What a world.

*self-esteem and depression related

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2019 09:13 AM (JoUsr)

403

There was news that some Hollywood executive tried to convince the makers of the new Harriet Tubman movie to cast Julia Roberts as Harriet because it all happened so long ago that no one will care.



A) Plausible

B) Still not the dumbest idea to come out of Hollywood.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 09:13 AM (oVJmc)

404

I really really hope I'm wrong about Sondland.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 09:14 AM (A3yzb)

405
What fresh jiggery-pokery will Grand Inquisitor Schiffless offer up today?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:14 AM (pNxlR)

406 Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:12 AM (yRAFu)

He tweeted about Masha Potatovich.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:14 AM (WI7YS)

407 I agree, it was a marvelous bit of writing. It also
made great use of a concept that shows up in a lot of C.S. Lewis'
works, and others - the idea that one go into another world psychically
and an entire lifetime can pass while in this world, only a few minutes
go by.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (V2Yro)


Another Christian writer that did this was Ted Dekker, in his Circle series. Imagine Tom Clancy and C.S Lewis collaborating. Highly recommended.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 09:14 AM (IttZ7)

408 He's
going to say "where's my fucking turkey??"

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Ha! 'Bout time The Turkey got a little of the business, too.

Posted by: The Chicken at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (7HtZB)

409 370 I get that. The problem is kids are not getting educated; they're getting brainwashed. The money is one thing; the long-term child abuse is something else entirely and that should be fought openly and with no quarter given.

That commie Red-for-Ed group was out in full force and they succeeded.

351 Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 08:55 AM (arJlL)

Yes. Red for Ed here was run by teacher unions elsewhere and the teachers here in AZ were to dumb (and greedy) to recognize it. It was NOT a grassroots uprising. I was teacher here and wish I wa as teaching when it happened. They would have hated me. Striking here is illegal and they got away with it. I blame Doug Ducey or Governor for immediately folding on a 20% pay raise. It gave Red for Ed validity. In fact Red for Ed on the sly tried to dismantle the raise at th last minute because they really wanted more. Unions. I thought the striking teachers should have paid a price but they haven't as far as I can see.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (oY5lM)

410 Ronald D. Moore blamed the general episodic format of TNG for the lack of follow up

He did play the flute again in a later episode, but yeah.

And "just let Patrick Stewart carry the episode" is such an obviously good idea I'm surprised it only happened once.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (6XLoz)

411 We have access to one of the best school systems in the state. Yet people still send their kids elsewhere due to the cultural issues, brainwashing, attacks on Christianity and the loathsome, unamerican way these jackasses are teaching. It's a slow rolling dumpster fire that will not prepare your kids for anything except Liberal Indoctrination.

Now with higher taxes to pay for the pleasure of this, people are moving in record numbers. Especially with their kids in private or charter schools. To a lot of people who don't want to sacrifice their kids on Democrat's altar of political correctness , it's a no brainer.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (F73W5)

412 I have to commend Schiff on not wearing dentures. Unlike Pelosi and Biden there is none of that deep thought tongue exploration of dental wear going on with him. Its a nice change of pace.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (yRAFu)

413 253 It will be interesting to see where Lt. Col Boris Badenov's immediate career path takes him after he's done "Testifying" .
I mean, he's not just going to go back to his old desk and pick up where he left off is he?
When he gets back to work on Monday, the only password that should be working for him is the Pentagon Dessert Buffet Menu for that day.

Posted by: DOGGFISH
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Some of us of old timers where discussing this yesterday. I'm of the opinion (as were others) that if he had a Marine uniform on he WOULD be duly charged at least for lying under oath and a litany of other superfluous charges under articles in the UCMJ and be recommended for a General Court Martial and he would have to play legal beagles game of The Price is Right until both sides agreed on a resolution where he'd take a plea agreeing to plead guilty on such and such, get demoted a rank, pay a fine and then retire..

But he's in the Army so......... he'll probably get promoted.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (c/XJZ)

414
To assert S, imply that it is because the President cannot be "above the law".

Ex: The President can't just be allowed to make unsupervised phone calls--the President is not above the law.

Posted by: Congressional Democrat Talking Points at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (DuZls)

415 Boy, Warren really torpedoed herself with her Medicare for all.

Good.

New New Hampshire poll.

Buttigieg 25%
Warren 15%
Biden 15%
Sanders 9%

Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 09:16 AM (G0vdT)

416 410 Ronald D. Moore blamed the general episodic format of TNG for the lack of follow up

He did play the flute again in a later episode, but yeah.

And "just let Patrick Stewart carry the episode" is such an obviously good idea I'm surprised it only happened once.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (6XLoz)

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He also largely carried "Family", the one right after Picard got saved from the Borg.

Picard goes home and gets into it with his older brother who's stayed on the family's vineyard.

It's always been a favorite of mine, though I know that isn't an opinion that many people share.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (q80AH)

417 398 The president needs to stop tweeting, he is NOT above the law!
Posted by: Democrat Nonsequiturs at November 20, 2019 09:11 AM (DuZls)

I heard a soundbite this morning of some CNNBCBS infobint decrying that the President was using - quote - "tax-payer funded twitter account" to attack LTC Bearclaw

Posted by: The Chicken at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (7HtZB)

418 The Simpsons was at its best between season 4 and 10 or so.

But yeah, most shows generally wear out their welcome, especially those that pursue story arcs. You have to keep coming up with excuses why this specific story needs to keep going for 10-25 hours year after year.

The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:10 AM (q80AH)

What if the setting is the main focus? A series of character stories to build a world.

Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (O+iVW)

419 The UCMJ includes article 133, Conduct Unbecoming, which is often called the "catch all" article in military law.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 09:07 AM (ZfRYq)

A legal technicality that may be relevant - while the President is the Commander in Chief, the Constitution specifically states that this is a Civilian position, and the President holds no military rank. Even Eisenhower never appeared in uniform after he became President. Therefor UCMJ does *not* apply to any President, just as it does not apply to any other civilian.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (V2Yro)

420 On that "Move to Amend" article. -- "[Corporations] shall have no rights under this Constitution." but--
[Section 3] Nothing in this amendment shall be construed to abridge freedom of the press."

As if "The Press" is some ordained priesthood, made up only of the ordained institutions of Leftist Agitprop, and certainly not including the deplorable blogger.

The article notes the power of government and unions, versus the counterbalancing power gained from Citizens United. Another really big power group is the Foundations ... billionaires shovel billions tax free through, but then maintain command and control for political and social justice power. And on the the lower levels, use them for more nefarious money laundering as with the Clinton Foundation.


But the mega-power of the Ford Foundation and 1000 like them is immeasurable, and most are leftist in nature. Our future is being determined behind closed doors, and subsidized as the oligarchs run foundations tax free, with their own agenda. It is why Soros can pour millions into certain races, or into various leftist agitprop outlets (e.g. Media Matters, and Beck had a list of 100+ such groups tied to Soros ... an agitprop army)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (Cus5s)

421 Is a "chow thief" what I guess it is? A guy that takes more food than is his ration? On a ship in the Navy, you can eat more and not deprive anyone of their meal. Not so in the Army?

Posted by: JAS at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (DBGf/)

422 New New Hampshire poll.

Buttinguttsex! 25%
Fake Identity Politics 15%
Ok Boomer 15%
Free Stuff! 9%
Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2019 09:16 AM (G0vdT)

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (KUaJL)

423
Isn't that the case with just about any show that goes on for more than about 4 seasons?

Either a show gets cancelled early or goes on long enough to be a shell of its former self.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:08 AM (KUaJL)

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The Simpsons was at its best between season 4 and 10 or so.

But yeah, most shows generally wear out their welcome, especially those that pursue story arcs. You have to keep coming up with excuses why this specific story needs to keep going for 10-25 hours year after year.

The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:10 AM (q80AH)







The X Files tried to walk that tightrope by alternating stand-alone monster episodes with the overarching mythology episodes, with middling success.

My favorite episode is a blend of the two, in the baseball ep with the alien who plays for the Roswell Grays. Very cool.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (kw0bd)

424 My son just got up from bed. He has a bit of hair standing up on his head just like Alfalfa from "The Little Rascals". I'm trying not to laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (WI7YS)

425 I really really hope I'm wrong about Sondland.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 09:14 AM (A3yzb)


Considering what FBN read in Sondland's opening statement...you're not.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (cF8AT)

426 He did play the flute again in a later episode, but yeah.

And "just let Patrick Stewart carry the episode" is such an obviously good idea I'm surprised it only happened once.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (6XLoz)

Well now they got an entire series based on the premise coming up.

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (7HtZB)

427 Points to ponder: Our government is in such sorry shape that Adam Schiff is chairman of the intelligence committee, THAT guy is an Army Lieutenant Colonel, and no one seems to care that we are building multibillion dollar floating paper weights instead of warships.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (Boy/L)

428 Picard goes home and gets into it with his older brother who's stayed on the family's vineyard.

I liked that one as well.

Of course, after the BSG reboot Ron Moore can certainly talk about not following through on plot lines. Special destiny what?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (6XLoz)

429 418
What if the setting is the main focus? A series of character stories to build a world.
Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (O+iVW)

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I like the idea, but network executives don't really understand what works and doesn't work for maintaining an audience. One thing they are convinced works is keeping actors around.

So, Star Trek Discovery was supposed to be, originally, different seasons dealing with different time periods of Starfleet with different casts, but the network shut that down early and we got the incomprehensibly bad product we can all enjoy to ignore today.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (q80AH)

430 True, and the EU "Human Rights" Court forced the UK to pay for a guy on welfare to fly to Amsterdam for hookers because it was a basic human right.


It'd be cheaper to drop 'im off in White Chapel with a couple of quid in 'is pocket.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:19 AM (ob5xJ)

431 Speaking of which, as a civilian, I don't really have to refer to Vindman as Ltc. It is only a courtesy, not law.

Am I right?

Posted by: JAS at November 20, 2019 09:19 AM (DBGf/)

432 The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:10 AM (q80AH)

What if the setting is the main focus? A series of character stories to build a world.
Posted by: Someguy at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (O+iVW)

The best adaptation of War and Peace that I've seen was done by Woody Allen. TheJamesMadison, if you haven't watched that again after your Ingmar Bergman binge, you should.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:19 AM (V2Yro)

433 426 He did play the flute again in a later episode, but yeah.

And "just let Patrick Stewart carry the episode" is such an obviously good idea I'm surprised it only happened once.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (6XLoz)

Well now they got an entire series based on the premise coming up.
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (7HtZB)

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Feels like it's about kung fu kicks from little girls as much as it will be about Picard.

I'm not terribly optimistic. But, hey! 7 of 9! I member her!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:19 AM (q80AH)

434 431 Speaking of which, as a civilian, I don't really have to refer to Vindman as Ltc. It is only a courtesy, not law.

Am I right?
Posted by: JAS at November 20, 2019 09:19 AM (DBGf/)

Yes, you are correct. It is completely appropriate for you to refer to him as "Mister" - his superior officers can refer him to that way as well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:20 AM (V2Yro)

435 Is a "chow thief" what I guess it is? A guy that takes more food than is his ration?
Posted by: JAS



Doesn't do enough work to earn his keep.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM (ob5xJ)

436 Iowa and New Hampshire don't reflect the modern Democrat base. McCain beat Bush in New Hampshire and did pretty well in SC but was pretty much stopped there. There are many examples of people doing well in Iowa and New Hampshire and then falling flat. Do people really think Bootysweat is going to be the nominee?

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM (n13/j)

437 432
The best adaptation of War and Peace that I've seen was done by Woody Allen. TheJamesMadison, if you haven't watched that again after your Ingmar Bergman binge, you should.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:19 AM (V2Yro)

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Love and Death?

I have not. It's in the queue! 4 years and counting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM (q80AH)

438 Ah "Not worth his salt."

Posted by: JAS at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM (DBGf/)

439 436 Iowa and New Hampshire don't reflect the modern Democrat base. McCain beat Bush in New Hampshire and did pretty well in SC but was pretty much stopped there. There are many examples of people doing well in Iowa and New Hampshire and then falling flat. Do people really think Bootysweat is going to be the nominee?
Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM (n13/j)

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Ah, but California is going on Super Tuesday next year.

That's gonna fuck up the Democratic Primary in such glorious ways.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM (q80AH)

440 A legal technicality that may be relevant - while the President is the Commander in Chief, the Constitution specifically states that this is a Civilian position, and the President holds no military rank. Even Eisenhower never appeared in uniform after he became President. Therefor UCMJ does *not* apply to any President, just as it does not apply to any other civilian.

I am not saying that they are going to charge him under UCMJ - just that they could use that as justification for a "general article." Borrow some of the wording.

The Constitution doesn't require anything specific so they can do what they want. They have always known the Senate won't convict.

So they will vote generic stuff and then use "defense of Trump" as a weapon against Republicans.

Unfortunately, enough Republicans are weak kneed enough to say "no I am not defending Trump...."

Whatever else they say after that won't make it on air.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (ZfRYq)

441 the Bully Pulpit extends to Twitter ... (except even Trump ostensibly gets shadow banned by Twitter at times)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (Cus5s)

442 I am Farticus.

Posted by: Swallowswell at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (Ed8Zd)

443
I heard a soundbite this morning of some CNNBCBS infobint decrying that the President was using - quote - "tax-payer funded twitter account" to attack LTC Bearclaw
Posted by: The Chicken at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (7HtZB)


Twitter charges for use of their "service"? News to me.

I'll bet they use Twitcoin if they do charge, though.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (pNxlR)

444 432 The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:10 AM (q80AH)


Is it Amazon Prime? Netficks? I'd love to watch it..

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (oY5lM)

445 Do people really think Bootysweat is going to be the nominee?

I don't think. I hope.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (Boy/L)

446 It's always been a favorite of mine, though I know that isn't an opinion that many people share.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (q80AH)


Mine too. Samantha Eggar was great in that episode as well.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (IttZ7)

447 Iowa and New Hampshire don't reflect the modern
Democrat base. McCain beat Bush in New Hampshire and did pretty well in
SC but was pretty much stopped there. There are many examples of people
doing well in Iowa and New Hampshire and then falling flat. Do people
really think Bootysweat is going to be the nominee?





Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:21 AM

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I don't know, but he is leading in a bunch of the newer polls for the early States.


This is just like the Republican side in 2016. jeb! led almost all of the early polls and then flamed out when the actual voting started.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (JUOKG)

448 Yes, you are correct. It is completely appropriate
for you to refer to him as "Mister" - his superior officers can refer
him to that way as well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:20 AM (V2Yro)

I am not so sure about the second one. I know in the Navy sometimes people are referred to as Mister. But I don't ever recall someone in the Army called MR. They can call him Vindman! in a loud and unpleasant tone of voice though.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:23 AM (n13/j)

449 311305 Apparently, he really pissed off the teachers unions in the following four years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies

That alone should have motivated KY conservatives to come out. Again, I am not a local so I have no idea.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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IIRC the turnout was very good as you can look at the others down the ticket that won big. Old Matt sowed his own bed by continuing to beat down the teachers (and rightly so IMHO) by publically calling them names over and over and over. He alienated the teachers union, many teachers, their families and even their relatives. I'm not saying they voted for fucking Besher but they sure didn't vote for old Matt even though Donnie Two Scoops did his best to pull him up from the depth of a 20% lag to losing by less than 5K votes.

Good thing is that there is a republican super majority in the Kentucky House and Senate which 'should' prevent a complete 180 but WTF do I know.

Just my opinion.....

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 20, 2019 09:24 AM (c/XJZ)

450 The presidency was about the only election Obama won with any sort of legitimacy wasn't it? Weren't all his other elections won by dirty tricks removing his strongest rival like how he became senator?
Posted by: Buzzion at November 20, 2019 08:42 AM (SjIcT)


Yes, all his early victories had elements of corruption. Let's be honest: one of the reasons Gaylord won, aside from "HISTORICAL FIRST" was that he was a fresh new face and not one of the ossified careerist turds in Washlincoln. Who in their right minds would vote for one of them? I'm cheap as hell but I'd pay cash money for an opportunity to horsewhip Chuck Schoooomer, for example. And who did the Top Men run against him but two decrepit losers who everyone hated, Juan Keating McTraitor and Mutt Rombley. Sarah Palin, the only other fresh new face, generated the only other positive upswing.

That's also why we have Trump. People across the country don't like the shitheads the Uniparty litters the legislature with.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 09:24 AM (y7DUB)

451 Do people really think Bootysweat is going to be the nominee?

I've heard Newt Gingrich say Buttplug would be the hardest one for Trump to beat because he checks the right diversity boxes (gay, relatively young) and is smart enough to, like Obama, save the radical left sh-t for after the election.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (O7MnT)

452 424 My son just got up from bed. He has a bit of hair standing up on his head just like Alfalfa from "The Little Rascals". I'm trying not to laugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 09:18 AM (WI7YS)[/I)

LOL! I had to bite my tongue the other day when Sis informed me that her outboard motor isn't working because "it has a bad celluloid".

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (fE1wp)

453 Unfortunately Civil Service laws prevent Trump form doing most of that stuff.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 20, 2019 08:02 AM (JUOKG)

Actually, the Civil Service laws don't come into play.

He has the power to fire all political appointees.

He has the power to move all agencies to wherever he see fit. No congressional input needed.

Behold the power of the Executive Branch. It is all-encompassing within the branch and Trump holds all the cards.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (U6f/q)

454 444 432 The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:10 AM (q80AH)


Is it Amazon Prime? Netficks? I'd love to watch it..
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2019 09:22 AM (oY5lM)

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Criterion released it.

https://tinyurl.com/yxjvyfsr

Made in the Soviet Union, the filmmakers were granted access to the Soviet army to stage the battle scenes. They're some of the grandest ever filmed (I really mean that, they're fantastic).

Bondarchuk, the director who also played Boris, really understood the material as well. The girl who plays Natasha, a former ballerina, is absolutely divine, and the burning of Moscow is one of the greatest single sequences I've seen in film.

It does require a certain familiarity with the book, though, which I read right before watching.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (q80AH)

455 He did play the flute again in a later episode, but yeah.

And "just let Patrick Stewart carry the episode" is such an obviously good idea I'm surprised it only happened once.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2019 09:15 AM (6XLoz)

They should have let Deanna Troi play Picard's flute.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (V2Yro)

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (fE1wp)

457

Prediction: Fake News today will fake-compare Giuliani to Chuck Colson.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 20, 2019 09:25 AM (A3yzb)

458 I heard a soundbite this morning of some CNNBCBS infobint decrying that the President was using - quote - "tax-payer funded twitter account" to attack LTC Bearclaw
Posted by: The Chicken at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (7HtZB)


Methinks someone doesn't know of what they speak.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:26 AM (ob5xJ)

459 I am surprised no one has mentioned the scene in A Few Good Men when Jack Nicholson insisted on being called Colonel. In that scene he was being made fun of. He was not a sympathetic figure.

Full disclosure. I just watched the Vindmann episode and it didn't seem like a big thing to me at all. If the left calls that a burn, well, they are as dumb as I think they are.

Posted by: Quint at November 20, 2019 09:26 AM (n13/j)

460
Is a "chow thief" what I guess it is? A guy that takes more food than is his ration? On a ship in the Navy, you can eat more and not deprive anyone of their meal. Not so in the Army?
Posted by: JAS at November 20, 2019 09:17 AM (DBGf/)





The "chow thief" epithet was mentioned as his rep in Ranger School, so given that Ranger candidates are routinely starved during the class, I'm thinking that it's a LITERAL description of the man.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2019 09:26 AM (kw0bd)

461 I am not so sure about the second one. I know in the Navy sometimes people are referred to as Mister.

Lieutenants and below (including warrants) in the Navy are addressed as Mister (usually by superiors). BUT, that usually only applies to Academy, ROTC, and Warrant officers. Former enlisted LDOs realllllly don't like it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:26 AM (Boy/L)

462 Whoever saved me from embarreling, thank you.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 09:27 AM (fE1wp)

463

The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?



Streaming is a problem. Since people binge watch, plots don't need to move as much. And you wind up with shows like Man In The High Castle that take a season for three episodes' worth of plot.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 09:27 AM (oVJmc)

464 463

The best adaptation of War and Peace I've seen is 7 hours long, but Marvel needs 10 to tell the first season of Daredevil?


Streaming is a problem. Since people binge watch, plots don't need to move as much. And you wind up with shows like Man In The High Castle that take a season for three episodes' worth of plot.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2019 09:27 AM (oVJmc)

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I think it would be harder to make a compelling television show than a compelling movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:28 AM (q80AH)

465 The presidency was about the only election Obama won with any sort of legitimacy wasn't it? Weren't all his other elections won by dirty tricks removing his strongest rival like how he became senator?
Posted by: Buzzion


If you consider vote fruad and campaign finance fraud "legitimate", yeah.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2019 09:28 AM (ob5xJ)

466 And you wind up with shows like Man In The High Castle that take a season for three episodes' worth of plot.

I'm trying to slog through that, but it can be snoozy.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:28 AM (Boy/L)

467 462 Whoever saved me from embarreling, thank you.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 09:27 AM (fE1wp)

If your 'Posted by:' line doesn't carry the tag, the rest of the comments won't either.

Don't ask me why that is. Pixy has his own rules...

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 09:29 AM (cF8AT)

468 If you consider vote fruad and campaign finance fraud "legitimate", yeah.

If there were no IRS bullshit in 2012, that one would have likely gone the other way.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:29 AM (Boy/L)

469 466 And you wind up with shows like Man In The High Castle that take a season for three episodes' worth of plot.

I'm trying to slog through that, but it can be snoozy.
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I did the same with Vikings. Enjoyed the first season and then it started dragging then I avoided it.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2019 09:29 AM (yRAFu)

470 Hey there is a Democrat debate tonight.

Who knew?

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (ZfRYq)

471 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:03 AM (q80AH)

The 2 Democrat women that won formerly red seats north of Detroit last election, I am interested in how they vote. One of them is a former CIA apparatchik.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (aOKtJ)

472 Grey and gloomy here. Rain's moving in. I'd better go cover the woodpile before it starts.

Later, all.

Posted by: creeper at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (fE1wp)

473 nood kris

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:31 AM (q80AH)

474 470
Hey there is a Democrat debate tonight.



Who knew?

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2019 09:30 AM (ZfRYq)

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Yes, there's a debate tonight. Pity us.

Posted by: Joe Biden's Underwear Roadies at November 20, 2019 09:31 AM (IttZ7)

475 And you wind up with shows like Man In The High Castle that take a season for three episodes' worth of plot.

In contrast, the Rick and Morty Season 4 premier jammed at least 2 1/2 episodes of plot into a single episode.

And I think they made absolutely the right call by focusing on a Rick and Morty story and keeping Jerry, Beth, and Summer on the sidelines. After a long hiatus, the fans wanted Rick and Morty.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (O7MnT)

476 I saw Covered Woodpile open for Molly Hatchet at the Astrodome in '82.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (Boy/L)

477 Morning fellow Morons. In case you're curious about the why the Donk down here in LA won the Gov. race I have some articles for your perusal. The first of 6 articles is linked in the description. Short answer: "naive (bullshit more like stupid or didn't give a shit)" businessman hired a bunch of out of state consultants to run his campaign who proceeded to piss off local political hands, mismanage his campaign, and grift their client out of millions. The reason I disagree with Scott McKay assessment of Rispone as naive (article 6 I think) is Rispone's background: He's been involved in the oil business in LA since the 70's. No fucking way he's THAT naive about state politics. I suspect this was pure vanity for him and he didn't give a shit, which was the vibe he gave off to me from day 1. Either that or he's so fucking stupid that he let a bunch of grifter "consultants" take him for a ride, in which case, he really doesn't have any business running the state. So, yeah, LA ain't turning purple.

Posted by: Jackal at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (Lyh9/)

478 475 In contrast, the Rick and Morty Season 4 premier jammed at least 2 1/2 episodes of plot into a single episode.

And I think they made absolutely the right call by focusing on a Rick and Morty story and keeping Jerry, Beth, and Summer on the sidelines. After a long hiatus, the fans wanted Rick and Morty.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (O7MnT)

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The second episode felt weird until the end when the thematic connection between the three stories became clear. I think I'll like it more on a second viewing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (q80AH)

479 Of course, after the BSG reboot Ron Moore can certainly talk about not following through on plot lines. Special destiny what?

Posted by: Ian S.


They never had a plan. They made it up as they went along, just like happened with Lost. Still shoulda just stopped at mid-season 4.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 20, 2019 09:32 AM (Rvlwi)

480 I think it would be harder to make a compelling television show than a compelling movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 20, 2019 09:28 AM (q80AH)

Isn't that a little like saying it's harder to make a series than a single novel?

Sometimes your story needs more than 2-3 hours to tell. Game of Thrones would have been terrible in it's entirety if it were just a movie.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2019 09:34 AM (KUaJL)

481 MISTER Christian!

Posted by: Captain Bligh at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (DBGf/)

482 The UCMJ includes article 133, Conduct Unbecoming, which is often called the "catch all" article in military law.

Posted by: blaster

Article 134 basically states anything not covered in the previous articles is covered here.

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (arJlL)

483 Don't ask me why that is. Pixy has his own rules...
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2019 09:29 AM (cF8AT)


Pixy has frequently forgiven my fuckups on not closing a tag. Maybe that's compensation for past randomly shutting off my access or lack of preview.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (y7DUB)

484 " I've already seen Lefties spouting off about how rural people will have to suffer because they've chosen to live there; if they want accessible care, then move to the cities, you inbred hicks. "

Good one.

Now do "If urban people are suffering from excessive violence and crime, they just need to suffer, due to their choice to live there".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2019 09:35 AM (cqNba)

485 Mister Roberts!

Posted by: The Captain at November 20, 2019 09:36 AM (DBGf/)

486 The left wouldn't be pouring money into Elise Stefanik's opponent, if Elise wasn't important. Smart, young, quick-witted. Ignoring her bc she isn't local seems illogical. I think it's great she's currently the face of an R party that needs to woo suburban women. She's very much worth supporting.

Posted by: Ever at November 20, 2019 09:42 AM (ZZDMQ)

487 I just watched the infrared one, because some nice person here told me I should.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2019 08:56 AM (WI7YS)


Oh dear. Am I on your naughty list now?

Posted by: Emmie at November 20, 2019 09:54 AM (i/wJA)

488 Notice how they are pulling Rudy into the show! Soon Rudy will be main attraction along with Roger Stone. They plan to cement the Russian Hoax with a final report, impeachment and removal of Trump.

Posted by: Charles Daniel Duckworth at November 20, 2019 09:57 AM (ajyBg)

Tuesday Overnight Open Thread (11/19/19)

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THE QUOTES OF THE DAY


Quote I

"You know, sometimes politicians who are stuck in Washington, and don't take the time to get out, don't get out to where real people live and play and work, they lose touch with the reality of where the heartbeat of our country is," she told a crowd at a recent campaign rally. "The heartbeat of our country, it's certainly not in Washington, D.C. The heartbeat of our country is in rooms like this. In communities like yours all across this country, standing up and saying it is time now for our voices to be heard." Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)


Quote II

People are excited about Buttigieg. He's fresh, he's new. He's gay. He's a serviceman. He served in Afghanistan. He's married, and a very, I mean unless you are a homophobe, he's married in a very traditional marriage, you know? Totally monogamous, and that should appeal to the silent majority, whoever they are. Joy Behar


Quote III

For generations, our community has been fed empty promises by Democratic candidates who pledged to fight for minorities and help the African-American community, only to ignore us after rising to power. Herman Cain


Quote IV

If a gay man doesn’t want to have sex with someone who has a vagina and a lesbian doesn’t want to have sex with someone who has a dick, they are not being transphobic. They’re being — how shall I put this? — gay. Andrew Sullivan

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Hillary Clinton Nacho President. And her "foundation" is hemorrhaging like the stuck pig she is.

This is evidenced nowhere more in the fact that the Clinton Foundation has gone from turning over a revenue of almost $400 million in 2013, to actually LOSING almost $33 million since Donald Trump wiped the floor with Hillary in 2016.

Newly released tax records show that the foundation reported a loss of almost $17 million in 2018, to add to the net loss of $16.1 million the previous year in 2017.

The numbers don’t lie.

Total revenue reported for 2018 was just $30.7 million, less than a tenth of what was being pulled in While Hillary was Secretary of State.


So when does the Wicked Witch of The North East hit us deplorables taxpayers up for a bailout?

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The first male birth control is going to hurt. Of course it is.

Would men endure a shot in the penis to prevent pregnancy? Indian researchers think so.

The Indian Council of Medical Research, a government-funded biomedical research agency, has successfully completed a clinical trial on an injectable male contraceptive, the Hindustan Times reported.

“The product is ready, with only regulatory approvals pending [from the government],” Dr. R.S. Sharma, senior scientist with ICMR, told the local news outlet. “The trials are over, including extended, Phase 3 clinical trials for which 303 candidates were recruited with a 97.3% success rate and no reported side effects. The product can safely be called the world’s first male contraceptive.”

The birth control method, which lasts approximately 13 years, involves injecting a polymer, called styrene maleic anhydride, into the vas deferens, effectively blocking sperm from leaving the testicles. The shot, preceded by a dose of local anesthesia, is designed to supplant a traditional vasectomy.


Which reminds me of the Far Side................

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Daily cannabis use lowers odds of using illicit opioids among people who have chronic pain

For those using illicit opioids to manage their chronic pain, cannabis may be a beneficial -- and a less dangerous -- alternative, according to new research from the BC Centre on Substance Use (BCCSU)


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SMOD, is it on its way?

NASA is currently tracking three near-Earth objects (NEOs) due to fly past the Earth on November 20. Worryingly, two of the three were only spotted this past weekend, once again raising tensions over planetary defense.
The first of Wednesday’s cosmic flybys and the largest, measuring 157.5ft to 360.8ft (48 to 110 meters) across, will be asteroid 2019 UK6, which will speed past at approximately 6.20am GMT (1.20am EDT). It is 2019 UK6 we had most prior warning about, as it was first observed on October 24.

NEO 2019 UK6 is an Amor asteroid, which that goes around the Sun and the Earth, occasionally, but very rarely, crossing Earth's path. Apollo asteroids, on the other hand, intersect with Earth’s orbit as the planet travels around the Sun.


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Protesters are planners. Who knew?

Right now: activists with @XRebelDC @ExtinctionR are taking supplements in preparation for an attempted hunger strike at Nancy Pelosi’s office.

The #ExtinctionRebellion activists say they’ll be demanding a sit-down meeting with Pelosi where they will push her on climate action.


The ONT's advice? 66 days of hunger strike will win you a good number of converts. Go for it.


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H/T chavez the hugo


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Lost and found. Odd family reunion.

GLENS FALLS, N.Y. (CNN) After years of not hearing from a Glens Falls, New York, man, Rick Hazelton's family had him legally declared dead.


But a friend of Hazelton wanted answers and with the help of a detective was able to track down Hazelton.

He found out that Hazelton was not dead, but rather he had moved around the country.

"One day I got a letter in the mail that said, 'You're being investigated in a missing persons report.' And I thought, 'That can't be right, I'm not missing. This has gotta be a mistake,'" said Hazelton.

Hazelton says that cellphones and social media just weren't around back then and so he just fell out of touch with friends and family.

Now, 33 years later, he's back in touch with those who love him and is spending Thanksgiving in New York.


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If you remove a GPS monitoring device on your car and remove it, are you a thief?

Back in 2012, the US Supreme Court ruled that it's illegal for the police to attach a GPS tracking device to someone's car without a warrant. But what if you find a GPS tracking device on your car? Can you remove it?

A little more than a year ago, the state of Indiana charged a suspected drug dealer with theft for removing a government-owned GPS tracking device from his SUV. This month, the state's Supreme Court began considering the case, and some justices seemed skeptical of the government's argument.

"I'm really struggling with how is that theft," said Justice Steven David during recent oral arguments.


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Cookies & Cream, good stuff. Rocky Road, simply delicious. Insect chip and mint? Nope, not going to eat it.

Oh ice cream, how I love you! Sometimes ice cream just really hits the spot, especially when you’ve had a really long day or it’s really hot outside. But have you thought about what’s going to happen to food, and more importantly ice cream, when there is a boom in population? Experts estimate that there will be approximately 11 billion people on our planet by the end of the century. This in turn may lead to a severe food shortage. Scientists have mentioned before that we may need to rely on bugs in order to survive in the future. They’re cheap and an easy protein that can help us get through the day. The Economist decided to take this to another level. We all know that bugs are full of protein, fiber, and even calcium. They are inexpensive and more sustainable than our typical animal proteins like beef. The Economist stated, “not having to look at bugs, and emphasizing the environmental benefits might make the idea of eating insects a bit more palatable.” Well check out their recent experiment that was conducted in Canary Wharf in London.


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"Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?"
"A Republic, if you can keep it."

The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) recently held its 25th Annual Gala in Washington, D.C, in which CAIR’s executive director announced a goal of pushing more Islamists into Congress. As the Investigative Project on Terrorism reports, CAIR’s executive director Nihad Awad shares the “formula” he believes will secure Islamists greater political power:


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Rolling Stone: Men Who Abstain From Porn Are Dangerous Alt-Righters

There’s a scene in The Big Lebowski in which The Dude bitterly objects that the pornographer Jackie Treehorn, viewed by the local sheriff as an upstanding citizen who “draws a lot of water” in Malibu, “treats objects like women, man.” Lazy, inarticulate stoner though The Dude may be, even he understands that porn is a shady business and that those who produce it are a detriment to society.

To read Rolling Stone, though, you’d think these people were providing a valuable public service. In a recent piece by EJ Dickson, the expert witness is Dr. David Ley, a “clinical psychologist and sex