Is Comey Setting The Stage For A Legal Defense?

Comey admits 'I was wrong' on FISA conduct, remains defiant on dossier in tense interview

Former FBI Director James Comey admitted on "Fox News Sunday" that the recently released Justice Department Inspector General's report on the launch of the FBI's Russia investigation and their use of the surveillance process showed that he was "overconfident" when he defended his former agency's use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

"He's right, I was wrong," Comey said about how the FBI used the FISA process, adding, "I was overconfident as director in our procedures," and that what happened "was not acceptable."

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1 Hopefull

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (ZCEU2)

2 nd?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (rBtIz)

3 I'll go and summon The Others.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (rBtIz)

4 Sgt James " Schultz" Comey knows nothing, sees nothing.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (ZCEU2)

5 @Doranimated

Comey says "my recollection" every 2 seconds. Who talks like this, except for Tony Soprano after consulting his lawyer? Every time Comey uses the phrase, it shows he's sweating, in deep legal jeopardy. Not deep enough, of course, but still.

Posted by: Ha at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (UU64l)

6 How do you look in orange, Jimmy?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (WsmTT)

7 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (rBtIz)

8 What? Is that a little Nixonian sweat on St James of the Redwoods' upper lip? Indict McCabe and let's see what he has to say.

Posted by: DaveD at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (P5fqQ)

9 Ok, under penalty of perjury I "signed" the FISA warrant applications, but I didn't "sign-sign" them.

Posted by: Sweat scented druid Philosopher at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (QzkSJ)

10 "I was overconfident as director in our procedures," and that what happened "was not acceptable."

Got it. It's all the fault of those damnable procedures.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (T6t7i)

11 I always call them if it's my job

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (ZCEU2)

12 > Who talks like this, except for Tony Soprano after consulting his lawyer?

Pretty much anyone, after consulting his lawyer.

Saying flat-out "I did this" or "that thing happened" can get you charged with perjury, but you can't be charged for having a faulty memory (nor is there any way to prove that your memory isn't faulty).





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (WsmTT)

13
I regret I have but one pension to give to my country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (7rVsF)

14 I was overconfident as director in our procedures

Lying and making shit up used to be ok.

Posted by: James Comey at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (xPcn3)

15 He is overconfident of his innocence.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (38jed)

16 "I said sorry!"

-- Comey

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (RU4sa)

17 Ask not for whom the bus comes, it comes for you Andrew McCabe.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (ZLI7S)

18 I will every day until it happens pray to see Jim in a orange jumpsuit.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (ZCEU2)

19 I was overconfident as director in our procedures," and that what happened "was not acceptable.

That, and the woods were especially compelling that day.

Posted by: James Comey at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (T6t7i)

20 What's fascinating is that Comey gets to tell his side of this, all day long, every day, for as long as he remains a free man.

Now, take just about anybody, and have them tweet something like "gay isn't genetic, and dressing up like the opposite sex is crazy," and you'll be hounded out of public life, essentially forever... or as long as twatter exists. Whichever comes last.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (hku12)

21 Behind bars would be a good look for Comey.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (mO7+Z)

22 but you can't be charged for having a faulty memory (nor is there any way to prove that your memory isn't faulty).





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


Uh, no.

Posted by: "Scooter" Libby at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (QzkSJ)

23
So when does Cummy get frog-marched to PMITA prison?

Pay-per-view?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (eXA4G)

24 > I was overconfident as director in our procedures,

And who is responsible for specifying the "procedures"? Could maybe the director have a small bit of authority in that area? Perhaps? Just a tiny bit?



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (WsmTT)

25 Jimbo,
We're looking for elocution not equivocation.

Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (FhXTo)

26 James Comey is not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (38jed)

27 16
"I said sorry!"



-- Comey

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (RU4sa)

+++
LOL!

Posted by: washrivergal at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (XtntB)

28 "I was overconfident as director in our procedures," and that what happened "was not acceptable."

Got it. It's all the fault of those damnable procedures.
Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (T6t7i)


Nothing says "leadership" like blaming procedures.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 02:38 PM (y7DUB)

29 10 "I was overconfident as director in our procedures," and that what happened "was not acceptable."

Got it. It's all the fault of those damnable procedures.
Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (T6t7i)

Whatever happened to "the buck stops here"?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:38 PM (Uu+Jp)

30 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable.

Posted by: George Custer at December 15, 2019 02:39 PM (hku12)

31 Mind you, I would have said something earlier- like, years ago- but I didn't want to slant the investigation.

Posted by: James Comey at December 15, 2019 02:39 PM (xPcn3)

32 I was overconfident as director in our procedures,

And who is responsible for specifying the "procedures"? Could maybe the director have a small bit of authority in that area? Perhaps? Just a tiny bit?



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


Those "procedures" were put in place by.....Robert Mewler.

Posted by: Miklos, out-pointing at December 15, 2019 02:39 PM (QzkSJ)

33
So when does Cummy get frog-marched to PMITA prison?

Pay-per-view?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (eXA4G)

Will his first prison buggering be recorded?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (Uu+Jp)

34 >>Whatever happened to "the buck stops here"?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods

You rang?

Posted by: The Biden Crime Family at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (2cuLk)

35 The procedures failed us. Darned procedures...

Posted by: Capt. of the Titanic at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (xPcn3)

36 As Lindsey Graham (yeah, I know) said, this is the biggest, most high-profile FISA authorization ever sought, fraught with potential for abuse, and he never asked to see the supporting documentation before he signed it? You can believe that if you want, but there's a better explanation that fits the facts. Someone (my guess is Carlin) has already sung, or will soon sing, with a different, more plausible story.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (jK8Z7)

37 He signed two or three of the FISA applications there by attesting to their veracity under penalty of law. How I would Love to see the FBI swat teams show up at his door he being frog walked to a waiting paddy wagon. Ain't gonna happen, but one can dream.

Posted by: rah at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (QGdgs)

38
So when does Cummy get frog-marched to PMITA prison?

Pay-per-view?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (eXA4G)

Will his first prison buggering be recorded?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (Uu+Jp)





That might be the first and only time I voluntarily watch ghey pron.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (eXA4G)

39 Comey will be overconfident in the joint and use the apple jelly instead of the grape jelly when he is tossing the salads. Salads, plural, with an "s".

The new fish always learn the hard way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (Z+IKu)

40 Will his first prison buggering be recorded?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips

Nah.

VIPs get the privacy of the Epstein Suite.

Posted by: Miklos, almost certain at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (QzkSJ)

41 34 >>Whatever happened to "the buck stops here"?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods

You rang?
Posted by: The Biden Crime Family at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (2cuLk)


Point well made. There have been a lot of bucks stopping at the Biden Crime Family.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (Uu+Jp)

42 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable -

Jan 27, 1991

Posted by: Scott Norwood at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (hku12)

43 Ah, mistakes were made, I just wanted to do my job so well I just got to darned eager, I'm too trusting really is a fault of mine

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (vPKfA)

44 "He's right, I was wrong," Comey said about how the FBI used the FISA process, adding, "I was overconfident as director in our procedures," and that what happened "was not acceptable."
----------------

6' 8" inches of crapweasel with the integrity of Bill Clinton.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (WEBkv)

45 Control Alt Delete the FBI, FISA and CIA.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 02:42 PM (MTxDQ)

46 > Uh, no.

> Posted by: "Scooter" Libby

I thought Libby outright denied being the leaker?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:42 PM (WsmTT)

47 Is Comey Setting The Stage For A Legal Defense?

Of course he is.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (I2/tG)

48 He signed two or three of the FISA applications there by attesting to their veracity under penalty of law. How I would Love to see the FBI swat teams show up at his door he being frog walked to a waiting paddy wagon. Ain't gonna happen, but one can dream.
Posted by: rah at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (QGdgs)


Martha Stewart says that lying to the FBI means hard time.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (aS1PU)

49 This is what Ron Ziegler called a modified, limited hangout. Admit to something small, so that becomes the story and no one notices you haven't admitted to the big thing.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (jK8Z7)

50 Yeah, that whole St. Valentine's Day massacre, I was overconfident.

Posted by: Al Capone at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)

51 No dysgenic at Comeys height.

Posted by: henry at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (J3Rfi)

52
The stage should include a trap door... and and a noose.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (zBaqJ)

53 As a younger man I was driving along too fast for the posted speed limit, and was pulled over, and I remembered the tips to get out of a ticket. Be polite and when asked "Do you know how fast you were going?" to answer "Honestly officer I was paying more attention to my surroundings."

Still got the ticket. St. James needs to remember who he is or was at the time. So fall on your sword or rat out those who told you to do it.

Nope time to post twitter pictures of the forrest.

Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (nonGu)

54 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable-

July 23, 2019

Posted by: Metropolitan Correctional Center at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (hku12)

55 Rudy has been very busy.

@RudyGiuliani

Dem's impeachment for innocent conduct is intended to obstruct the below investigations of Obama-era corruption:

- Billions of laundered $
- Billions, mostly US $, widely misused
- Extortion
- Bribery
- DNC collusion w/ Ukraine to destroy candidate Trump

Much more to come.


Money laundering. Who knew?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (ZLI7S)

56

Alternate post title:


Comey Is Less Of A Shit Than Wray, It Appears

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (hDHPO)

57 I thought Libby outright denied being the leaker?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:42 PM (WsmTT)

Yes. He was convicted for his memory being different from Tim Russert's.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (jK8Z7)

58 Remember, you need to distinguish between local cops, who are incompetent, racist, murderers; and the FBI, which is as pure as the driven snow!

Posted by: The Media! at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (I2/tG)

59 Chris Wallace is an embarrassment to FOX News.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (hYUjK)

60 If I am guilty of anything, it is having faith in our procedures.

Posted by: James Comey at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (xPcn3)

61 49 This is what Ron Ziegler called a modified, limited hangout. Admit to something small, so that becomes the story and no one notices you haven't admitted to the big thing.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:43 PM (jK8Z7)


James "Just the Tip" Comey.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (zBaqJ)

62 "Blessed is he who reveals the secret communications of a corrupt king, for he hath laid the path of many book signings." St. James of the Comey, Pine-scented Druid philosopher

Posted by: fly gal at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (wqpwx)

63 If Carter Page was a CIA asset, used against Russia, as we suspected before the IG report and as it now appears to be the case, why was it necessary to get a FISA warrant on him to get intel on what the Russians were up to?

Fact is, it wasn't, which implies that the actual surveillance target was somebody other than Page. "I wonder who might that be," a curious journalist might inquire.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (1CjJc)

64 30 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable.
Posted by: George Custer at December 15, 2019 02:39 PM (hku12)


I too was overconfident in our procedures, and that thing with the iceberg was not acceptable. But we did almost set a speed record for crossing the Atlantic. - Capt. Edward Smith

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (pNm1M)

65 The real question now is who is the presumed firewall? Who takes one for the team, goes to jail, and breaks the chain? It sounds like Comey is afraid it might be him. We know neither Hillary nor Obama will, but we might just get above the file clerk in the Cincinnati office.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (T6t7i)

66 Is Comey setting the stage for a hung jury?
Sure is

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (ZCEU2)

67 So who still believes this long tall drink of piss? Colbert's clapping seals? Low IQ Meeka? Mega Keating McEatingDisorder? The Rear Admiral and French Davidians?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (y7DUB)

68 Money laundering. Who knew?
Posted by: JackStraw

The State Dept. IG during Hillary's tenure really shoulda noticed the missing billions.

I mean, if there had been one.

Posted by: Miklos, not a believer in coincidence at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (QzkSJ)

69 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable -

July 3, 1863

Posted by: General Pickett at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (hku12)

70 57 I thought Libby outright denied being the leaker?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:42 PM (WsmTT)

Yes. He was convicted for his memory being different from Tim Russert's.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (jK8Z7)


Richard Armitage was the leaker. Free as a bird.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (zBaqJ)

71 Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc., all get the run of the alphabet networks, lie with impunity and make excuses for their behavior with all the sanctimony of the priests who piously rejected the silver returned by Judas.

May they all meet the same end.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (WEBkv)

72 Dysgenic was oxygen before my iPad got to it.

Posted by: henry at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (J3Rfi)

73 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable -

May 6, 1937

Posted by: Hindenburg Captain at December 15, 2019 02:47 PM (hku12)

74 66 Is Comey setting the stage for a hung jury?
Sure is
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (ZCEU2)


Even if Comey and the others actually are put on trial, the jury pool is in the 7 counties surrounding DC.

The venue should be changed to Oklahoma.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:47 PM (zBaqJ)

75 If the dick-head feels the need to set the stage for a legal defense, it's a step in the right direction.

Anytime one of these sippers of cock, by choice I might add, feels the need to take a step back - it's a win.

I like winning.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:47 PM (bYn+n)

76 just sawthe Jewell movie...so agent shaw is st. james big brother...

Posted by: krusty at December 15, 2019 02:47 PM (Psuwu)

77 Richard Armitage was the leaker. Free as a bird.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (zBaqJ)

And Colin Powell knew it and kept his mouth shut while Libby was persecuted. Of course, Libby was of no interest himself. Fitzgerald wanted Cheney and Powell wasn't going to save him.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:48 PM (jK8Z7)

78 Wallace:

"Did you know all of this?"

Pine-scented Druid Philosopher:

"All a whut?"


"Depends on what the definition of IS, is". We've heard this all before.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 15, 2019 02:48 PM (377Zs)

79 The Looming Dufus will make somebody a fine girlfriend in the Federal Pen.

Posted by: ALH at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (eozwC)

80 The venue should be changed to Oklahoma.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Huber in Utah may yet have a role.

Posted by: Miklos, changer of venues at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (QzkSJ)

81 >>Is Comey setting the stage for a hung jury?
Sure is
Posted by: Skip

Or a hung cell mate.

Posted by: Bubba at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (2cuLk)

82 Memory all alone in the moonlight
I can smile at the old days
I was beautiful then
I remember
The time I knew what happiness was
Let the memory live again

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (+y/Ru)

83 43 Ah, mistakes were made, I just wanted to do my job so well I just got to darned eager, I'm too trusting really is a fault of mine

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (vPKfA)

That might fly if it weren't for the sham email server investigation, with predetermined outcome and handing out immunity like candy.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (1CjJc)

84 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable -

Nine months before Jan 3, 2003

Posted by: Malena Ernman at December 15, 2019 02:50 PM (hku12)

85 Richard Armitage was the leaker. Free as a bird.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (zBaqJ)


Bigsby - I'll take W Fuck Ups for $400, Alex

Trebek - This convicted administration member did not receive a pardon from W, even though W knew he was innocent.

Bigsby - Who was Scooter Libby, Alex ? And I shagged your mother rotten.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (bYn+n)

86 OT, but I thought this was very interesting, or concerning, or both.

https://tinyurl.com/tn92vuq

If true, it's time for some JDAM target practice.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:52 PM (T6t7i)

87 i think comey has spent his career avoiding responsibility.

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:52 PM (Pg+x7)

88 Richard Armitage was the leaker. Free as a bird.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 02:46 PM (zBaqJ)

And Colin Powell knew it and kept his mouth shut while Libby was persecuted. Of course, Libby was of no interest himself. Fitzgerald wanted Cheney and Powell wasn't going to save him.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:48 PM (jK8Z7)


And GWB never pardoned Libby.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 02:52 PM (y7DUB)

89 If you glance at the linked article, you'll notice the new buzzphrase: "low threshold."

Yeah, Comey, we get it, the "low threshold" consisted of President Trump daring to win the election.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:53 PM (WEBkv)

90 When you watch Comey, ever since Trump 86ed his pasty ass, he knows he is going to the slammer.

That is why you have the weird walks in the woods, the philosoperrage, everything.

He does not have the well-rested, look of a guy that with 410 million that is enjoying his retirement.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:53 PM (HALdu)

91 Oh, Comey was overconfident alright, along with the other coup plotters.

Everyone in the IC gets a participation trophy!

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 15, 2019 02:53 PM (4pMBB)

92 I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable -

Nine months before Jan 3, 2003
Posted by: Malena Ernman at December 15, 2019 02:50 PM (hku12)


"I too was overconfident as in our procedures, and what happened was not acceptable. In fact, I've got a good mind to sue Trojans for their shitty quality control."

Nine months before 4 August, 1961

Posted by: Zombie Barack Obama Sr. at December 15, 2019 02:53 PM (pNm1M)

93 "5 @Doranimated

Comey says "my recollection" every 2 seconds. Who talks like this, except for Tony Soprano after consulting his lawyer? Every time Comey uses the phrase, it shows he's sweating, in deep legal jeopardy. Not deep enough, of course, but still."

Comey's confederates know what a slimy dick he is. If there is anything serious to come from this, it's a good bet they expect Saint James to roll on them.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:53 PM (iw59Q)

94 No one goes to prison with the Orangeman bad defense.


Happy HoliGays!

Posted by: DC Jury at December 15, 2019 02:53 PM (UU64l)

95 Let's not begin the mutual fellatio just yet, Gentlemen. We all know his defense will be, "At the time I signed the warrant applications, I believed it to be true. I was not lying, I was simply wrong."

And he'll walk.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 02:54 PM (jp0Bv)

96 Even if Comey gets a seat as a director for googl or similar he knows his reputation is destroyed and the everyone that would hire him knows he is a liar.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:55 PM (HALdu)

97 "90 When you watch Comey, ever since Trump 86ed his pasty ass, he knows he is going to the slammer.

That is why you have the weird walks in the woods, the philosoperrage, everything.

He does not have the well-rested, look of a guy that with 410 million that is enjoying his retirement. "

Comey's constant Biblical quotes and generalized sermonizing is straight up a white trash jailbird. He'll roll quicker than a crack whore during Fleet Week.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:55 PM (iw59Q)

98 6 How do you look in orange, Jimmy?
________________

Like a goofy retard, same as I look in every other color!

Posted by: Big Jim Comey, Servant of God at December 15, 2019 02:55 PM (k4dH2)

99 87 i think comey has spent his career avoiding responsibility.

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:52 PM (Pg+x7)

Comey has spent his career profiting off of his relationship and loyalty to the Clintons.

A higher loyalty, indeed.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2019 02:56 PM (1CjJc)

100 >>Let's not begin the mutual fellatio just yet, Gentlemen. We all know his defense will be, "At the time I signed the warrant applications, I believed it to be true. I was not lying, I was simply wrong."

>>And he'll walk.

He's got a lot more to worry about than the Carter Page FISA warrant.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 02:56 PM (ZLI7S)

101 CDKH

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:56 PM (HALdu)

102 i think comey has spent his career avoiding responsibility.
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:52 PM (Pg+x7)


Spoiler Alert - part of the trick to rising in any bureaucracy is
avoiding responsibility. One Oh Shit cancels ten Atta' Boys. That is,
truly, how shit works.

Say it with me - a Bureaucracy is not a Meritocracy. Say it.

To understand this is to understand why things work the way they work, and why they always work out this way - and, I'll add, why the way is always shitty.

Understand this.


Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:56 PM (bYn+n)

103 Comey's constant Biblical quotes and generalized sermonizing is straight up a white trash jailbird. He'll roll quicker than a crack whore during Fleet Week.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:55 PM (iw59Q)



Yes, and the worst thing is that he knows he is a bitch.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:57 PM (HALdu)

104 Comey's constant Biblical quotes and generalized sermonizing is straight up a white trash jailbird. He'll roll quicker than a crack whore during Fleet Week.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:55 PM (iw59Q)
-------------

The Bible quoting thing is why I know Comey is a fake Christian.

If Comey was truly Christian, he'd confess his failures and accept his punishment.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:57 PM (WEBkv)

105 He's got a lot more to worry about than the Carter Page FISA warrant.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 02:56 PM (ZLI7S)

^^this

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 02:58 PM (jK8Z7)

106 Another OT: Greta Thunberg is catching some heat for her "up against the wall" comment. She has now issued an "apology". You'll never guess who is at fault.
"Yesterday I said we must hold our leaders accountable and unfortunately said "put them against the wall". That's Swenglish....means to hold someone accountable...That's what happens when you improvise speeches in a second language. But of course I apologise if anyone misunderstood this."

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:58 PM (T6t7i)

107 "He's right, I was wrong," Comey said about how the FBI used the FISA
process, adding, "I was overconfident as director in our procedures,"
and that what happened "was not acceptable."



See it's not St. Jimmy's fault or the rest of the crooked crew at the FBI. It's those damn procedures that made things go wrong

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 02:58 PM (cWKsE)

108 Comey is going down faster than Hunter Biden for a meth dildo.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:58 PM (HALdu)

109 OT, but I thought this was very interesting, or concerning, or both. 

https://tinyurl.com/tn92vuq

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This is supposed to be Christmas, not Halloween.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 02:58 PM (+y/Ru)

110 Klimafuhrer

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (HALdu)

111 Donald Trump's superpower is that he is presiding over the best economy in at least the last fifty years, while job prospects for "journalists" are as bad as in the Great Depression.

The latest shoe to drop is that Bloomberg Media just took over a website called CityLab from the Atlantic, and laid off all the staff.

CityLab is devoted to explaining how cars are evil, and why everyone should be forced to live in a 500 square foot apartment in a high-rise building next to a mass transit stop.

Kriston Capps, one of the laid-off staffers, is of course whining on Twitter about how Unfair this all is. Kriston's last article in City Lab was about how wonderful is would be to provide tenants facing eviction with "free" legal help (no discussion of what this would do to rents or to screening of prospective tenants), but he also concentrates on the Big Things, like in an article that starts;

It's time to crack down on single-use plastic drinking utensils, the world's most disposable product

Best of luck on the job search, Kriston.

I'd tell you to learn to code, but the joke is that people like you became journalists because you were incapable of learning how to code.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (I2/tG)

112 George Costanza has nothing on Comey.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (38jed)

113 Until one is put in jail I think everyone of them is sure they won't.

For all the posturing Hillary did claiming she did nothing she has to know she should be locked up for life but never will be.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (ZCEU2)

114 and that what happened "was not acceptable.


********

And yet you DID accept it, right?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (m45I2)

115 Comey is going down faster than Hunter Biden for a meth dildo.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 02:58 PM (HALdu)


I'm not placing any quatloos on that square yet.

But - I'll say this - he's not acting confident, for the first time. That means something. And I don't think he's sly enough to bluff. He's concerned.

And I like it.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (bYn+n)

116 If Comey was truly Christian, he'd confess his failures and accept his punishment.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:57 PM (WEBkv)

The Enron treasurer went to my church. He pleaded guilty at his arraignment without a plea bargain and went to medium-security prison for almost 5 years (halfway house for the last few months). His explanation for why he didn't fight the charges? I was guilty.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (jK8Z7)

117 Until one is put in jail I think everyone of them is sure they won't.

For all the posturing Hillary did claiming she did nothing she has to know she should be locked up for life but never will be.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (ZCEU2)



Did you see that pic of her? Who is going to convict a clown?

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (HALdu)

118 The Bible quoting thing is why I know Comey is a fake Christian. 

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A Pelosi Christian.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (+y/Ru)

119 In her interview with the FBI regarding her private email server, The Chappaqua Chipmunk told the FBI 39 times that she, "Could not recall".

THAT'S who talks like this.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 15, 2019 03:01 PM (377Zs)

120 The Bible quoting thing is why I know Comey is a fake Christian.



If Comey was truly Christian, he'd confess his failures and accept his punishment.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:57 PM (WEBkv)


I'm thinking in the manor of what Henry II got

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 03:02 PM (cWKsE)

121 I'm not placing any quatloos on that square yet.

But - I'll say this - he's not acting confident, for the first time. That means something. And I don't think he's sly enough to bluff. He's concerned.

And I like it.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (bYn+n)



Yeah, I am not sure he is going down but I like talking smack almost as much as Hunter Biden likes doing smack.

Your are right about Comey, someone removed his confidence recently. Would guess that with as much wrongdoing as is set forth by the IG he is panicked at what Durham and Barr are going to do to him.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (HALdu)

122 *manner not manor

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (cWKsE)

123 His explanation for why he didn't fight the charges? I was guilty.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 03:00 PM (jK8Z7)


That is noble, and rare.

That's a good man that made a mistake and owned it. I can respect that.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (bYn+n)

124 "100 >>Let's not begin the mutual fellatio just yet, Gentlemen. We all know his defense will be, "At the time I signed the warrant applications, I believed it to be true. I was not lying, I was simply wrong."

>>And he'll walk.

He's got a lot more to worry about than the Carter Page FISA warrant."

Comey definitely is worried. In fact, James Comey thinks he going to the slammer more than I think James Comey is going to the slammer.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (iw59Q)

125 During Senate testimony IG said he referred everything to DoJ for further investigation.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (1g7ch)

126 It's time to crack down on single-use plastic drinking utensils, the world's most disposable product

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (I2/tG)


No kidding, a leftist who wants to crack down on somebody. There's a first.

But he's mistaken. The world's most disposable product is ... journalism.

Posted by: Zombie Barack Obama Sr. at December 15, 2019 03:04 PM (pNm1M)

127 I haven't see the picture of Hillary yet, I'll go look for one

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:04 PM (ZCEU2)

128
I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable.

Posted by: Sir Cloudsley Shovel at December 15, 2019 03:04 PM (7rVsF)

129 I haven't see the picture of Hillary yet, I'll go look for one
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:04 PM (ZCEU2)


Masochist.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 03:05 PM (hku12)

130 The guy is not sure if he should be more afraid of Barr sending him to the slammer or the Clintons shooting him.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:05 PM (HALdu)

131 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 03:05 PM (pNm1M)

132 >>During Senate testimony IG said he referred everything to DoJ for further investigation.

I don't know how so many people missed this. I saw people complaining there weren't any criminal referrals.

No, that's wrong. He referred EVERYONE in the chain of command. Including Comey.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (ZLI7S)

133 The guy is not sure if he should be more afraid of Barr sending him to the slammer or the Clintons shooting him.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:05 PM (HALdu)


Trapped like a rat.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (aS1PU)

134 Yeah, I am not sure he is going down but I like talking smack almost as much as Hunter Biden likes doing smack.



Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (HALdu)


Enjoy it. We've listened to his bullshit long enough.

If relishing that fucker finally flinch is wrong, I don't want to be right either.

*fistbump*

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (bYn+n)

135 I forgive you... I forgive you all.

Posted by: Saint James of Comey at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (flINI)

136 I either want to work in journalism or for a progressive nonprofit!

Posted by: Idiot Millenial With A Liberal Arts Dregree! at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (I2/tG)

137 "116 If Comey was truly Christian, he'd confess his failures and accept his punishment.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 02:57 PM (WEBkv)

The Enron treasurer went to my church. He pleaded guilty at his arraignment without a plea bargain and went to medium-security prison for almost 5 years (halfway house for the last few months). His explanation for why he didn't fight the charges? I was guilty."

Very admirable and an exemplar of what integrity is. Comey will squeal like a pig by contrast.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (iw59Q)

138 Just reminded my husband, as I have every few months since Comey was fired, that Comey was on the west coast when he was fired. Trump's people secured Comey's office before he could strip the incriminating stuff out of it.

No one ever talks about this, but I keep wondering. Donald Trump is--contrary to a lot of "popular wisdom"--a very patient man.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (S+f+m)

139 127 I haven't see the picture of Hillary yet, I'll go look for one
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:04 PM (ZCEU2)


Just make sure you do it before you have dinner.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (377Zs)

140
I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and that what happened was not acceptable.

Posted by: Publius Quinctilius Varus at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (7rVsF)

141 During Senate testimony IG said he referred everything to DoJ for further investigation.

I don't know how so many people missed this. I saw people complaining there weren't any criminal referrals.

No, that's wrong. He referred EVERYONE in the chain of command. Including Comey.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (ZLI7S)




Someone needs to be putting the screws to the judges that approved the warrants.

Either the fbi/doj lied to them or they were involved.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (HALdu)

142 I haven't see the picture of Hillary yet, I'll go look for one

You'd think that a person as wealthy as she is could afford a better plastic surgeon.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (I2/tG)

143 dailymail.co.uk/Hillary-Clinton 72 looks incredibly youthful event Broadway

Holy crap it looks like Botox on crack

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (ZCEU2)

144 I have recently learned that what I did was wrong. I would like to thank the faithful public servants who have shown me the error of my ways.

Posted by: James Comey at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (xPcn3)

145 As some Moron mentioned a few weeks ago, the defense for the big guys will be that they trusted the little guys when they made their decisions. The little guys are going to say that maybe they were wrong, but they didn't make the decisions and the big guys should have done due diligence.. It will be a perfect circle of fuckery.

That one fucker that altered the email is going down though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

146 I haven't see the picture of Hillary yet, I'll go look for one
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:04 PM (ZCEU2)



Her Cheek Implants(?) look crazily unnatural.

Too high. Too bulky. Too fat. Sort like her FUPA.

Piss poor job IMHO.

I think they're supposed to make her smile look more natural. Tough too do when your picture is next to the dictionary definition of "uncanny valley".

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (9X624)

147 It's time to crack down on single-use plastic drinking utensils, the world's most disposable product


Ban the veeblefetzer! Potrzebies forever!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (38jed)

148 Jabba want Hilderbeast !!!!!

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (qM84C)

149 *fistbump*
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (bYn+n)




back atcha

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (HALdu)

150 141:

"
Someone needs to be putting the screws to the judges that approved the warrants.

Either the fbi/doj lied to them or they were involved."

THIS. I'm going with the latter, too, because the judges have an affirmative duty to address fraud perpetrated on the court. There is no FISA exception I know to that rule.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 03:09 PM (iw59Q)

151 You'd think that a person as wealthy as she is could afford a better plastic surgeon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (I2/tG)




silk purse, sows ear

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:09 PM (HALdu)

152 It's time to crack down on single-use plastic drinking utensils, the world's most disposable product


It's time to crack down on useless plastic banana journolist tools, the world's most toxic crap producers

Posted by: Miklos, editor emeritus at December 15, 2019 03:09 PM (QzkSJ)

153



Manu Gómez


@GDarkconrad












What´s going on today at Incirlik AB #Turkey ?
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USAF C17 Globemaster III RCH455 taxiing at Incirlik

Posted by: mary at December 15, 2019 03:10 PM (cyRVk)

154 THIS. I'm going with the latter, too, because the judges have an affirmative duty to address fraud perpetrated on the court. There is no FISA exception I know to that rule.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 03:09 PM (iw59Q)


same here

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:10 PM (HALdu)

155 136 I either want to work in journalism or for a progressive nonprofit!
Posted by: Idiot Millenial With A Liberal Arts Dregree! at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (I2/tG)


But you'll end up making lattes, or asking people if they want fries with their order. That $250,000 college loan debt will melt away in no time when you're knocking down that $15/h.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 03:10 PM (pNm1M)

156 That one fucker that altered the email is going down though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

Isn't he still working for the FBI?

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at December 15, 2019 03:10 PM (UU64l)

157 I don't know how so many people missed this. I saw people complaining there weren't any criminal referrals.

No, that's wrong. He referred EVERYONE in the chain of command. Including Comey.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:06 PM (ZLI7S)

It was insufferable here until Horowitz testified, and even when he testified then the Eeyores were out in full force. It was as if no one here read the report and relied on the "press."

Will there be indictments? Yes.
Will there be convictions? No idea

However, there will be changes in the FISC. Even the Ds during Horowitz's testimony copped to "mistakes were made."

Posted by: Ann at December 15, 2019 03:10 PM (NDO5Q)

158 I keep coming back to the Steele dossier allegations about the Russian hookers peeing.

Was there nobody in the chain of command at FBI who maybe raised one eyebrow of skepticism? Was there nobody who said, "this sounds too good to be true."? Was there nobody who said, okay, let's look into it, but this needs some senior oversight because it doesn't pass the smell test"? Or were they just so hungry to take down Trump that they were only too willing to believe such a ridiculous claim?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:11 PM (m45I2)

159 Someone needs to be putting the screws to the judges that approved the warrants.

Either the fbi/doj lied to them or they were involved.
Posted by: not so

*does Rodney Dangerfield collar loosen*

Posted by: Judge Rudolph Contreras at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (QzkSJ)

160 You'd think that a person as wealthy as she is could afford a better plastic surgeon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (I2/tG)

She had a groupon

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (vd8XM)

161 I will forever have a mental picture of Comey covered in pigeon shit chewing on a dead crow.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (V3fhb)

162 154 And so my presumption the judges were fine with it all and thinking no one will ever know because the coup was going to work.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (ZCEU2)

163 116 If Comey was truly Christian, he'd confess his failures and accept his punishment.

That would have to be a really recent conversion.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (xPcn3)

164 142 I haven't see the picture of Hillary yet, I'll go look for one

You'd think that a person as wealthy as she is could afford a better plastic surgeon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (I2/tG)


Lessee, issue shitty book? Check.
Try to dissipate some ugly via plastic surgery? Check.
Claiming that she could beat Trump again? Check.

Nah. She's not hoping for another shot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (pNm1M)

165 dailymail.co.uk/Hillary-Clinton 72 looks incredibly youthful event Broadway 

Holy crap it looks like Botox on crack

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Ready for my close up, Mr, Demille.

Posted by: Born Again Hillary at December 15, 2019 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

166 If the judges were involved we need to give the phrase "hanging judge" a new meaning.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:13 PM (HALdu)

167 LMAO...guys...he DIDN'T follow the procedures. He, blatantly, IGNORED the procedures put in place over and over. This is a poor man's defense. It's going to be based on "perception." It's, also, a red herring...since procedures can be debated all day long. What's important is the outright violations of Federal Statute, which have little to nothing to do with procedures.

Posted by: Orson at December 15, 2019 03:13 PM (0FSDw)

168 She had a groupon 

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2

Is that like a Throuple?

Posted by: Katie Hill at December 15, 2019 03:13 PM (UU64l)

169 "144 I have recently learned that what I did was wrong. I would like to thank the faithful public servants who have shown me the error of my ways."

You left out the Psalms verse, but otherwise perfect.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 03:14 PM (iw59Q)

170 TCM finally showing some watchable movies. Currently "It happened on 5th Avenue" next up Bell, Book and Candle.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 03:14 PM (MTxDQ)

171 She went to one of those plastic surgery parties in a motel by the freeway where they use quickrete.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:14 PM (HALdu)

172 Top. Men.

Posted by: G marks the spot at December 15, 2019 03:14 PM (GXoKW)

173 dailymail.co.uk/Hillary-Clinton 72 looks incredibly youthful event Broadway


I'm glad she kept the mustache

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 03:15 PM (vd8XM)

174 >>THIS. I'm going with the latter, too, because the judges have an affirmative duty to address fraud perpetrated on the court. There is no FISA exception I know to that rule.

I'm going with the former. The way the process is setup the courts are reliant on the FBI/DOJ to tell the truth when presenting a warrant. There is no reason for the courts to be corrupt if the people submitting the application are corrupt.

And boy howdy were the FBI agents corrupt.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (ZLI7S)

175 Hillary is going to run.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (tGmee)

176 peek a boo!

Posted by: Saint Comey of the Drapes at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (CLteG)

177 dailymail.co.uk/Hillary-Clinton 72 looks incredibly youthful event Broadway


I'm glad she kept the mustache
Posted by: Bruce at December




Young but ugly

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (HALdu)

178 TCM finally showing some watchable movies. Currently "It happened on 5th Avenue" next up Bell, Book and Candle.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 03:14 PM (MTxDQ)

*******

With Alan Hale Junior

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (flINI)

179 Hillary's plastic surgeon was previously best known for duct taping a banana on a wall.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:17 PM (m45I2)

180 Was there nobody in the chain of command at FBI who maybe raised one eyebrow of skepticism? Was there nobody who said, "this sounds too good to be true."? Was there nobody who said, okay, let's look into it, but this needs some senior oversight because it doesn't pass the smell test"? Or were they just so hungry to take down Trump that they were only too willing to believe such a ridiculous claim?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:11 PM (m45I2)

Muldoon, of course you know it's the last thing. They wanted to believe it OR, even worse, they planed the story themselves.

For me, the one that was just too incredible was that Carter Page was going to be bribed with 19 percent of Gazprom, which would be worth billions of dollars. That's just laughable.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 03:17 PM (jK8Z7)

181 "Blessed is he who reveals the secret communications of a corrupt king, for he hath laid the path of many book signings." St. James of the Comey, Pine-scented Druid philosopher
Posted by: fly gal at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (wqpwx)



Loved it!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at December 15, 2019 03:17 PM (5AVMW)

182 122 "manner not manor..."

from hamlet "though i am native here and to the manner born" has morphed into "to the manor born".

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 03:17 PM (Pg+x7)

183 Wait! I'm the sacrifice??? Fuck that, Brennan. You led the charge!!

Posted by: Saint Comey of the Drapes at December 15, 2019 03:18 PM (CLteG)

184 The Broncos can't buy a break today. Chiefs intercept but a holding call gives it back to the Broncs. Next play, another interception.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 03:18 PM (+y/Ru)

185 For me, the one that was just too incredible was that Carter Page was going to be bribed with 19 percent of Gazprom, which would be worth billions of dollars. That's just laughable.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 03:17 PM (jK8Z7)



That was funny. You have to wonder how no one said, wait a minute, how much is 19% pr gazprom worth?

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 03:18 PM (HALdu)

186 179=spewed coffee. LOL. thanks.

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 15, 2019 03:19 PM (6NfxD)

187 Was there nobody in the chain of command at FBI who maybe raised one eyebrow of skepticism? Was there nobody who said, "this sounds too good to be true."? Was there nobody who said, okay, let's look into it, but this needs some senior oversight because it doesn't pass the smell test"? Or were they just so hungry to take down Trump that they were only too willing to believe such a ridiculous claim?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:11 PM (m45I2)
----------------

They needed a premise, no matter how flimsy, to spy on the Trump campaign and, hopefully, find something they could use to sabotage the campaign.

Since that didn't work, they used the dossier as the means to cripple the Trump presidency.

Unfortunately for them, and fortunately, for us, they're so arrogant and stupid, they thought putting this over would be a piece of cake.

The Deep State seriously underestimated President Trump and seriously overestimated their own abilities.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 03:19 PM (WEBkv)

188 It was insufferable here until Horowitz testified, and even when he
testified then the Eeyores were out in full force. It was as if no one
here read the report and relied on the "press."


Then let me clear that up.

The "Eeyores" understand something, even if they don't articulate it and may not even fully understand it. There is no such thing as 400 pages of facts. Not when lawyers are involved. Everything can be parsed, obfuscated, debated, confused, and ultimately distorted. 400 pages of anything other than pure math are up for debate - and subject to the results of the prevailing narrative.

The shorter portion of that report, the summary, was extremely helpful for the Comeys and other coup members. And in any 400 page report, the summary is more important than the total body of work. Don't like that - don't think it's fair ? Tough shit - it's how the world has always worked and always will.

Maybe Barr is able to make chicken-salad out of those 400 pages of chicken-shit - maybe he's even willing. But it was still a fuck-up by Horowitz that will have to be salvaged at best. Don't bother me with shit like "but his scope". Put Holder in that situation and see what happens.


Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:19 PM (bYn+n)

189 Next play, another interception.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 03:18 PM (+y/Ru)

They need to play Houston every week

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at December 15, 2019 03:19 PM (P4Pk9)

190 I'm glad she kept the mustache
Posted by: Bruce

It's from the Black Russian.

Posted by: Miklos, almost certainly correct at December 15, 2019 03:20 PM (QzkSJ)

191
For me, the one that was just too incredible was that Carter Page was going to be bribed with 19 percent of Gazprom, which would be worth billions of dollars. That's just laughable.



Meanwhile, Hunter Biden is stuffing laundered money in his overnight bag on a way to score some coke and bang a stripper...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 03:20 PM (38jed)

192 It's from the Black Russian.
Posted by: Miklos

She's tossing salads now?

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 03:20 PM (vd8XM)

193 St James had only the purest motives

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 15, 2019 03:21 PM (Brq1k)

194 Comey wasn't wrong... he was knowingly criminal. It seems to have finally dawned on him that he may actually be held responsible for his actions.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 03:21 PM (nAiE/)

195 Youthful as in looking like 72 trying to look 60

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:21 PM (ZCEU2)

196 Meanwhile, Hunter Biden is stuffing laundered money in his overnight bag on a way to score some coke and bang a stripper...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 03:20 PM (38jed)
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anyone have Hunter Biden in their Dead Pool?

I'm going with heart attack brought on by drug abuse.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (WEBkv)

197 Was there nobody in the chain of command at FBI who maybe raised one eyebrow of skepticism? Was there nobody who said, "this sounds too good to be true."? Was there nobody who said, okay, let's look into it, but this needs some senior oversight because it doesn't pass the smell test"? Or were they just so hungry to take down Trump that they were only too willing to believe such a ridiculous claim?
Posted by: Muldoon


Of those that did know:

33% Heads down, kids in college, and a pension to secure

33% We have badges. We are the law. We can't be wrong. Procedure uber alles.

33% FuCk TrUmP~! AcK-ReEeE !@@$%^%^^

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (GPz65)

198 183 Wait! I'm the sacrifice??? Fuck that, Brennan. You led the charge!!

Yep, look at the crowd you're dealing with. Not a G. Gordon Liddy in the bunch. They will turn on each other with amazing speed.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (S+f+m)

199 That Dem judge silenced Roger Stone through his trials, as he was trashed everywhere. Yet Comey and the whole coup have CNN and the rest as pulpits from which to preach their own holiness.


Maybe Stone can write a book from prison ... the Apostle Paul did that ... was a best seller. (eventually) But I don't know what Stone was involved in really ... all the political players got some quid pro quo ... but only Trump supporters get the "lying to the FBI on some innocuous detail" charge/conviction.


Manafort was guilty of some things for sure ... but they tortured him in solitary, kept bringing him back to see if he would testify against Trump and tell their scripted lie. I guess he never did that, so off with his head.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (Cus5s)

200 In all fairness, Hillary had requested the "Amanda Blake" special. A beauty mark with three long black hairs growing out of the center, but they were 'out-of-stock'.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:23 PM (m45I2)

201 >>The shorter portion of that report, the summary, was extremely helpful for the Comeys and other coup members. And in any 400 page report, the summary is more important than the total body of work. Don't like that - don't think it's fair ? Tough shit - it's how the world has always worked and always will.


There was no part of that report that was helpful to anyone involved. If you actually read the report or even listened to Horowitz' testimony you would know that everyone involved was criminally referred.

Nobody is helped by being criminally referred to a US Attorney for possible prosecution.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

202 Or were they just so hungry to take down Trump that they were only too willing to believe such a ridiculous claim?
Posted by: Muldoon

They were already hip-deep and had been for years.

Clinton Foundation
Uranium One
Email server
Etc. etc

They realized that their asses were on the line. They attacked Trump on the best defense is offense principle.

Posted by: Miklos, this goes back years and years at December 15, 2019 03:23 PM (QzkSJ)

203 Criminal referrals were made.


Resulting in?

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at December 15, 2019 03:23 PM (UU64l)

204 194 Comey wasn't wrong... he was knowingly criminal. It seems to have finally dawned on him that he may actually be held responsible for his actions.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 03:21 PM (nAiE/)
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I think "sacrificed for his actions" is more accurate.

Either way works for me, though.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 03:24 PM (WEBkv)

205 dailymail.co.uk/Hillary-Clinton 72 looks incredibly youthful event Broadway


I'm glad she kept the mustache
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 03:15 PM (vd8XM)

Her face looks like a jigsaw puzzle, actually two jigsaw puzzles combined into one.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 03:24 PM (Uu+Jp)

206 Youthful as in looking like 72 trying to look 60

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:21 PM (ZCEU2)

********

The only thing her face tits are missing are nipples

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 03:24 PM (flINI)

207 He signed two or three of the FISA applications
there by attesting to their veracity under penalty of law. How I would
Love to see the FBI swat teams show up at his door he being frog walked
to a waiting paddy wagon. Ain't gonna happen, but one can dream.

Posted by: rah at December 15, 2019 02:41 PM (QGdgs)

If the frog march wasn't a very real possibility at this point, Comey would still be acting in his usual arrogant, condescending manner.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 03:24 PM (nAiE/)

208 174 >>THIS. I'm going with the latter, too, because the judges have an affirmative duty to address fraud perpetrated on the court. There is no FISA exception I know to that rule.

I'm going with the former. The way the process is setup the courts are reliant on the FBI/DOJ to tell the truth when presenting a warrant. There is no reason for the courts to be corrupt if the people submitting the application are corrupt.

And boy howdy were the FBI agents corrupt.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (ZLI7S)

Well, I used to be in the "FISA judges were in on it" camp, but after the IG report, I'm not so sure. The FBI/DOJ appears to genuinely have thought there was a chance that the authorization for domestic surveillance wouldn't be issued, because they wouldn't have gone through all the trouble to create a fake paper trail and even alter the CIA's email if they knew the fix was in and they were just putting together a CYA file-stuffer.

Maybe it goes into one of history's curiosities, like why the Polish Communist government never expropriated anyone's real property (except for in Warsaw, which was too badly damaged to identify where the prewar property lines were), or why the Soviet Union felt the need to go through the motions of holding elections, having a legislature, enacting the Communist platform into law, etc., when the Politburo could have just ruled by decree. My personal favorite is Jim Crow laws. If everyone were racist, no laws would be necessary. The real target of Jim Crow had to be whites who weren't sufficiently racist.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 03:24 PM (jK8Z7)

209 He referred EVERYONE in the chain of command.

Trump should start pulling names out of a hat at his rallies.

Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2019 03:24 PM (FhXTo)

210 The only thing her face tits are missing are nipples
Posted by: Truck Monkey

Those are down by her knees

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 03:25 PM (vd8XM)

211
Kennedy Center Honors are tonight. The more superficial the business the more awards and prizes it hands out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 03:26 PM (7rVsF)

212 Hillary's plastic surgeon must be a big fan of Lon Chaney.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 03:26 PM (38jed)

213 Hillary looks like that baboon that guest rants here sometimes
Or it it a mandrill?

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 15, 2019 03:26 PM (Brq1k)

214 in that fox interview, comey said as director he didn't exercise oversight on individual cases. but he apprised trump of the dossier, and immediately after went to a waiting car and reported on trump's reaction to the crossfire hurricane team (i think), not just memorialized the meeting in a memo on his computer, but was in essence spying on trump. he, the director.

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 03:27 PM (Pg+x7)

215 Hillary is going to run.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (tGmee)

Depends

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 03:27 PM (AMcQa)

216 Why aren't I 50 points ahead years younger looking?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:27 PM (m45I2)

217 Truck monkey - someone has to be working on that Photoshop

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 03:28 PM (ZCEU2)

218 "Over confident, no intent, my recollection, mistakes were made, etc. Looks like we have a new set of squares for bullshit bingo.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 15, 2019 03:28 PM (LOq4H)

219 They attacked Trump on the best defense is offense principle.
Posted by: Miklos, this goes back years and years at December 15, 2019 03:23 PM (QzkSJ)

I've previously opined that the Mueller investigation was a giant obstruction of justice scheme to prevent Crossfire Hurricane and its predecessor investigative hijinks from being prosecuted. I also believe the impeachment is a giant obstruction of justice scheme to prevent the goings-on in the Ukraine from being investigated.

"You scratched my anchor!"

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 15, 2019 03:28 PM (jK8Z7)

220
dailymail.co.uk/Hillary-Clinton 72 looks incredibly youthful event Broadway

Holy crap it looks like Botox on crack
Posted by: Skip


Hemorrhoids on steroids

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2019 03:29 PM (aKsyK)

221 anyone have Hunter Biden in their Dead Pool?

I'm going with heart attack brought on by drug abuse.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (WEBkv)

His last words will be "win for me dad".
The word of a Biden.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 03:29 PM (Uu+Jp)

222 The inauguration day had Obama and Trump standing on the steps. Obama wondering if Trump would find out that he had framed him. God I hate him.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2019 03:30 PM (LxTcq)

223 Hillary is going to run.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (tGmee)

Good..........I want to see that Slab of Meat trick again.

Someone call the big, bald, unknown black guy that was at her beck and fall and tell him to stand by.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 03:30 PM (Z+IKu)

224 There was no part of that report that was helpful to
anyone involved. If you actually read the report or even listened to
Horowitz' testimony you would know that everyone involved was criminally
referred.



Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)


Yes Jack, I read it. Get this - people can see what's going on here, and come to a perfectly logical and reasonable conclusion different than yours. Yes Jack - everything we suspected was written down in a report. Yet, the money shot from Hero Horowitz was "Nothing to see, move along".


That's your Achilles Heal. You're not alone in it. You have an extremely inflexible view of how events can unfold, and an even less imaginative understanding of the motivations of others.

For all your surety - there are a virtual army of lawyers pulling apart that report, right now. And an equal number of advocates spinning the public perception of it - which is ultimately money better spent. 400 pages of anything is fertile ground. A summary like Horowitz put out was a gift.

Jack - if public perception is spun to "this doesn't matter" - no fucking judge is ever going to bang that gavel and send a single damn one of them to jail. This isn't an episode of Perry Mason where everyone gasps at the verdict and the big-dog in town goes down.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 03:31 PM (bYn+n)

225 "208 174 >>THIS. I'm going with the latter, too, because the judges have an affirmative duty to address fraud perpetrated on the court. There is no FISA exception I know to that rule.

I'm going with the former. The way the process is setup the courts are reliant on the FBI/DOJ to tell the truth when presenting a warrant. There is no reason for the courts to be corrupt if the people submitting the application are corrupt.

And boy howdy were the FBI agents corrupt.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:16 PM (ZLI7S)

Well, I used to be in the "FISA judges were in on it" camp, but after the IG report, I'm not so sure. The FBI/DOJ appears to genuinely have thought there was a chance that the authorization for domestic surveillance wouldn't be issued, because they wouldn't have gone through all the trouble to create a fake paper trail and even alter the CIA's email if they knew the fix was in and they were just putting together a CYA file-stuffer.

Maybe it goes into one of history's curiosities, like why the Polish Communist government never expropriated anyone's real property (except for in Warsaw, which was too badly damaged to identify where the prewar property lines were), or why the Soviet Union felt the need to go through the motions of holding elections, having a legislature, enacting the Communist platform into law, etc., when the Politburo could have just ruled by decree. My personal favorite is Jim Crow laws. If everyone were racist, no laws would be necessary. The real target of Jim Crow had to be whites who weren't sufficiently racist."

I can't get past the failure to call to account those who perpetrated the fraud. Also, Contreas from memory was close to Strzok. There also were reports hearings weren't even held. That last may have been debunked but I missed it. At best the FISA courts were grossly negligent, but I think it was worse than that, but good point about the fake paper trail.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 03:31 PM (iw59Q)

226 Hillary might have Bill's nuts in those cheeks.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 03:31 PM (Uu+Jp)

227 Hillary will run for President if she thinks she's close to getting charged for her crimes.

Hillary will, with good reason, think the optics of "political persecution" will be enough to keep investigators off her back.

So, maybe Bill in indicted instead?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 15, 2019 03:31 PM (WEBkv)

228 Hillary looks very life-like.

https://tinyurl.com/rpjcmkp

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 03:31 PM (pNm1M)

229 "I've sentenced FBI Directors younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to....felt I owed it to them."

Posted by: Judge Elihu Miklos-Smales at December 15, 2019 03:32 PM (QzkSJ)

230 Comey has a classic tell when he says a big lie. His eyes move to the right and down. He does it a lot

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 03:32 PM (NuJm4)

231 Comey's non-apology reminds me of an incident I saw on the subway in Chicago, a few decades ago. A plains-clothes cop had just nabbed a pickpocket and was about to lead him off the train, when the pickpocket, in cuffs, whined, "Look, she got her wallet back. Can you let me go?" To which the cop responded, as if he were instructing a child: "That's not the point. You shouldn't have taken it in the first place!" We need that cop to explain to Comey that that's not the point: you shouldn't have signed that pack of lies in the first place!

Posted by: Brown Line at December 15, 2019 03:33 PM (S6ArX)

232 RBG did not look life like when she was alive.

Hillary looks like she is doing her Lo Pan impression.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2019 03:33 PM (ycWCI)

233 You'd think that a person as wealthy as she is could afford a better plastic surgeon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 03:07 PM (I2/tG)
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Nah. you inject her ass fat into your cheeks and see what happens.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 15, 2019 03:33 PM (WQZ1O)

234 The inauguration day had Obama and Trump standing on the steps. Obama wondering if Trump would find out that he had framed him. God I hate him.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2019 03:30 PM (LxTcq)

********

Urkel has absolutely no reason to be smug... but he is anyway

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 03:33 PM (flINI)

235 MaMa Comey was right to worry about her son being in legal peril.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2019 03:34 PM (V3fhb)

236 They grafted a baby's butt on to Hilz' face.

Posted by: klaftern at December 15, 2019 03:34 PM (RuIsu)

237 >>Yes Jack, I read it. Get this - people can see what's going on here, and come to a perfectly logical and reasonable conclusion different than yours. Yes Jack - everything we suspected was written down in a report. Yet, the money shot from Hero Horowitz was "Nothing to see, move along".


No, that's wrong, Scogg.

You should have listened to the interview Bill Barr did with the WSJ where he explained the purpose of the IG, the limitations and what he actually reported.

People continue to misstate what Horowitz actually said. He demonstrated and stated that there were multiple biased actions throughout the process but what he did not find was documentary or testimonial evidence that led to specific actions. In other words he didn't find a smoking gun document nor did anyone confess. How shocking.

Barr gets it. Durham gets. And Horowitz gets it or he wouldn't have referred his entire report to Durham.

Sorry, this was far worse for Team Coup than you want to admit.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

238 She is what? 72? At a certain point there is only so much even a very skilled surgeon can do. The body is just saying, fuck looking youthful, we are trying to stay alive here!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2019 03:36 PM (ycWCI)

239 Someone call the big, bald, unknown black guy that was at her beck and fall and tell him to stand by.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 03:30 PM (Z+IKu)


Waving his hand over his head, calling for a fair catch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 03:36 PM (pNm1M)

240 The body is just saying, fuck looking youthful, we are trying to stay alive here!
Posted by: Aetius451AD

The body should give up then

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 03:36 PM (vd8XM)

241 anyone have Hunter Biden in their Dead Pool?



I'm going with heart attack brought on by drug abuse.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (WEBkv)



His last words will be "win for me dad".

The word of a Biden.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 03:29 PM (Uu+Jp)


Plagiarist that he is it will go something like this:

I'm going to tell you something I've
kept to myself for years. None of you ever knew Hunter Biden. It was long
before your time. But you all know what a tradition he was as a Biden.

And the last thing he said to me,
"Dad," he said, "sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks
are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win
just one for the Hunter."

"I don't know where I'll be then, Dad", he said, "but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy." True story. My word as a Biden

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 03:36 PM (AMcQa)

242 When I look down and to the right I am thinking this must be how Jesus felt when he was persecuted for being righteous and pure.

Posted by: Saint Comey of the Drapes at December 15, 2019 03:36 PM (CLteG)

243 Some mistakes were made.

Some airplanes hit the side of the Twin Towers.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 03:36 PM (m45I2)

244 Looking at the "after" photo of Hillary on DM, I yelled, "Phone home!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 03:37 PM (pNm1M)

Pomposity? Insularity? Elitism? Take Your Pick! It's A NYT Trifecta Of Assholishness

Wine is a beverage, meant to be drunk and enjoyed. It isn't a virtue-signalling device or a talisman to ward off yahoos who drink beer and shoot guns. And a big reason why wine is better than ever is modern technology, modern farming techniques, and tremendous improvements in wine making. That is driven by the (relatively) free market in wine, which allows producers to satisfy particular demands without onerous regulations.

The proof is in the bottle, not on the label. If the wine tastes good and is priced for the perceived quality, people will buy, and labels be damned.

But that's not good enough for the vaunted NYT, which has never seen a mass-market product it doesn't love to mock.

Is Natural Wine Dead?

By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine. Made from organically grown grapes, with nothing added or taken away, these wines are no passing fad. They are a return to authenticity.
Authenticity? That's crap. Winemakers have been using whatever they can to make their wines taste good. And if that means adding some extra sulfites or some sugar if the grapes aren't perfectly ripe or herbicides and insecticides to increase the quality and yield in the vineyards, then that is fine with me.

In reality, the issue isn't businessmen trying to take advantage of a niche market to make some money, it is that the NYT has to separate themselves and their pseudo-elite readers from the unwashed masses, and one great way is to create controversies such as this to give themselves another way to draw a big bright line between them and us.

And yes...it is "us." You know, the people who buy wine because it tastes good, and don't really give a rat's ass whether it is "natural," or "biodynamic," or has a Gaia-loving esthetic among its winemakers.

"Natural Wine" means exactly nothing. A lot of those vineyards would be dead and gone if it weren't for modern viticultural and wine-making techniques. It's a marketing tool designed to attract exactly the kind of people who write and read the NYT, and has very little to do with the quality of wine in the bottle. Sure, some "natural" wines are good, just as some mass-market wines are good. But there are plenty of crappy "natural" or "organic" wines that taste like spoiled grape juice filtered through a hobo's sock, but they command a market and a price premium precisely because pompous asshats at the NYT tout them as something special. They specialize in linking banal, everyday events and products with some heightened sense of the world around us, as if the bottle of wine one drinks or the toilet paper one uses to wipe one's ass is in some way imbued with special powers to bring one closer to...something. Anything. As long as it isn't one of us.

With the world perched on the verge of multiple disasters, the battle to defend natural wine might seem to be an elitist fool's errand. We all eat, but we don't all drink, so not everyone connects with the idea of wine as an enduring, magical symbol of humanity. But that's in part the appeal, to me, of natural wine -- as a pure expression of honesty, nutrition, culture, poetry and connection to land, the recognition that each wine comes from a different place.
Wow...I have to give the writer credit, that is pompous, elitist, insular, with a soupçon of stupidity and ignorance all wrapped up in one short paragraph.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 I nooded. Really.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:20 PM (qc+VF)

2 Natural huh?...how do they press the grapes?

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (X/Pw5)

3 Hello? Is this thing on?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (qc+VF)

4 Anything to separate US from the ill-mannered, inbred, gap-toothed masses, right?

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (T09ml)

5 nd

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (BqBId)

6 Rudy Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
In my next thread of tweets I will be sharing some of the evidence I have garnered through hundreds of hours of research. Turn notifications on & stay tuned.
******
This is gonna get good

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (BqBId)

7 Maybe the NYT can "return to authenticity" by, I don't know, doing real journalism?



But for them, it wouldn't be a return, it would be doing it for the first time....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (IttZ7)

8 Whining about wine in the New York Times.

This is news?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (hku12)

9 So, is there a natural beer? I'd like to see what the NYT hipsters "know" about that.

Posted by: Gork at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (VmQ66)

10 I don't understand it. The entire article was written without the use of the word "terroir."

You can't discuss wine intelligently without throwing around the word "terroir."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (XVuno)

11 A Belgian? Abbey?

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (X/Pw5)

12 8 Whining about wine in the New York Times.

This is news?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (hku12)

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Heh.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (RU4sa)

13 BTW, you probably need 3 times the acreage to produce the same amount of grapes produced "industrially"

Insects and plant diseases, don't you know.

Because sustainable.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (T09ml)

14 Natural huh?...how do they press the grapes?
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (X/Pw5)

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Barefoot, organically-raised French farm girls.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (XVuno)

15 All the news that's fit to primp.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (hku12)

16 Sulphide free wine is a gimmick I think mostly.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (ZCEU2)

17 I don't believe "all natural", GMO, locally sourced etc on any product or food.

It's all a crock of Schiff

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (vd8XM)

18 There is gluten free beer

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (ZCEU2)

19 By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine.

I'd never heard of it.

I guess my luck was bound to run out sometime.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pNm1M)

20 Natural huh?...how do they press the grapes?
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (X/Pw5)

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Barefoot, organically-raised French farm girls.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (XVuno)


With yellow vests in their trunks?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (hku12)

21 Barefoot, organically-raised French farm girls.+++++
Yes, but are they free range?

Posted by: Old Dude at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (LGXGf)

22 Extra points to CBD for the use of the word soupçon in a context that has nothing to do with actual soup.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (XVuno)

23 I like my red wine. There are great cheap wines, and great expensive wines, and nasty cheap wines, and nasty expensive wines. If it tastes good and happens to be cheap, so be it. I want my wine to be made by a serious wine dude who cares about his wine, not a fucking hippy who worries about the fucking planet first.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (9Om/r)

24 "Sommelier, there's a toenail in my Hobo sock-filtered Merlot!"

"Yes, Madam, we pride ourselves on providing you the most "authentic" experience possible."

"Well, OK." *bites down on toenail, chews uncertainly*

"Um, Yes, it's quite good."





Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (IttZ7)

25 We need free range wine! Made from grapes that were allowed to roam and play with the other grapes!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (pNm1M)

26 Perhaps this writer just yearns for an earlier, simpler time. A time when most children died, when slavery was prevalent throughout the world and the Lord of the Manor could have his way with the peasant wench of his choice without all this #metoo hubbub.

What could be more civilized?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (jp0Bv)

27 So, is there a natural beer? I'd like to see what the NYT hipsters "know" about that.
Posted by: Gork at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM

++++++

Spencer Trappist beer. Unfiltered and delicious.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (T09ml)

28 O/T, but ohso dumb...

Bank teller steals 88 grand from bank, posts on social media

https://tinyurl.com/yx5qtrjb

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (RU4sa)

29 Wow...I have to give the writer credit, that is pompous, elitist, insular, with a soupcon of stupidity and ignorance all wrapped up in one short paragraph.

Is a soupcon some kind of skiploader?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (pNm1M)

30 By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine.
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I'd never heard of it.

I guess my luck was bound to run out sometime.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pNm1M)


Yes, pretentious twittery always makes it out here to the hinterlands eventually.

Occasionally... not often, but sometimes, when a "trend" is popular on the coasts, we get caught up in it way too early for their tastes, and that ruins it for the coasties.

I kinda like that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (hku12)

31 As a certified one per enter I'll only drink wine that's been filtered through a civet who spent the earlier part of the day filtering expensive coffee.

Now where is my Grey Poupon?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (XVuno)

32 There is gluten free beer
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (ZCEU2)
*******
Yep Anheuser-Busch makes Redbridge, Stella Artois is GF too

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (BqBId)

33 Soupcon...

Progresso is vastly overrated. There, I said it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (hku12)

34 I intensely dislike wine snobs.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (fS3vz)

35 So, is there a natural beer? I'd like to see what the NYT hipsters "know" about that.

Posted by: Gork at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM

Yes. aka, Natty Light. Ask any college kid.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (Dhht7)

36 By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine.

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WTF is 'natural' wine?

Some of us aren't wine snobs.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (RU4sa)

37 We need free range wine! Made from grapes that were allowed to roam and play with the other grapes!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019

+++++

Which reminds me: NEVER buy eggs from free-range chickens.
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Why?
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Because they're runny.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (T09ml)

38 Mrs. Jukin has three Wine Spectator awards from a restaurant we owned a few years ago.
She says "Natural" wine is bunch of shit. More important is the micro climate weather where the grapes are grown.
Oh and another thing, 85% of wine are blended from many growers grapes so She and I do not understand the bullshit the bullshit fake news is trying to peddle.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (pw+jk)

39 Why do women always leave me for total smegheads? Why do they dump me for men who wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a pipe? I mean, natural yoghurt eaters! Reliable, sensible, dependable, and lots of other words that end in "-ible." He's obsessed with house-prices, and spends half his life in antique fairs looking for bargains and drinking wine. It's never beer, is it, it's always wine! "What do you want on your cornflakes, darling?" "Oh, I'll have some wine, please!" Smeg!

Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)

40 The New Yawk Times is not fit to line a bum's nest in any shit hole city in California.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 12:33 PM (Z+IKu)

41 Alls I knows is that I drank too much wine on Thanksgiving. It wasn't my fault!

Posted by: washrivergal at December 15, 2019 12:33 PM (XtntB)

42 What could be more civilized?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (jp0Bv)


Here, hold our dirty stank-footed wine...

Posted by: Anti-Vaxxers at December 15, 2019 12:33 PM (hku12)

43 I'd like to recommend a change to the AoSHQ style guide:


Replace all uses of "elitist" with 'pretentious twat'.

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (8DvH0)

44 Elitist is shorter.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (RU4sa)

45 Yes, pretentious twittery always makes it out here to the hinterlands eventually.

Occasionally... not often, but sometimes, when a "trend" is popular on the coasts, we get caught up in it way too early for their tastes, and that ruins it for the coasties.

I kinda like that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (hku12)


It would be SO much fun to deflate these snobs by saying, "Oh yes, that began in Kansas. So it's finally made its way to Manhattan?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (pNm1M)

46 As a certified one per enter I'll only drink wine that's been filtered through a civet who spent the earlier part of the day filtering expensive coffee.

One must do one's civet doody.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (qc+VF)

47 That was a brutal beat down of pompous, elitist snobs who deserved a brutal beat down. Thank you.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (d9Cw3)

48 I'd like to recommend a change to the AoSHQ style guide:


Replace all uses of "elitist" with 'pretentious twat'.


Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (8DvH0)

44
Elitist is shorter.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (RU4sa)

===PRETWATIST?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (pw+jk)

49 Why do women always leave me for total smegheads? Why do they dump me for men who wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a pipe? I mean, natural yoghurt eaters! Reliable, sensible, dependable, and lots of other words that end in "-ible." He's obsessed with house-prices, and spends half his life in antique fairs looking for bargains and drinking wine. It's never beer, is it, it's always wine! "What do you want on your cornflakes, darling?" "Oh, I'll have some wine, please!" Smeg!
Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)


Get yourself a fedora. I hear that helps.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (hku12)

50 I would file this along with food that "organic "

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (ZCEU2)

51 Weren't all these pretentious twats exposed years ago when they did a blind taste test?

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (8DvH0)

52 Speaking of drinking and pomposity, here is a tale.

When I first left the Army and went into private practice, in a town I won't name but that rhymes with Ban Fantonio, the rival practice group in town tried to either co-opt me or intimidate me. Their lead cardiologist and their CT surgeon invited me to dinner at their private club (no wives, just the boys). The surgeon was a rich boy dilettante whose daddy was a big-name heart surgeon in a nearby capital city that I won't name but rhymes with Faustin. The other guy was a former Army doc like me and known to me as a big dweeb.

They were playing the snobbery card pretty hard. So when the waiter took our drink orders and both of them had looked at the wine list and were touting the merits of this or that wine, I requested a Radler (half beer and half lemonade). Of course I had to explain how to make it. They were visibly aghast. I enjoyed a nice enough meal and thanked them, then never looked back.

It helped that I have never appreciated wine and actually DO prefer the citrus-y taste of a Radler.

If you decide to try this, be sure to do something reverse snobbish and specify that it be made with only authentic Czech pilsner and California free-range lemons or somesuch.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)

53
Why do women always leave me for total smegheads? Why do they dump me
for men who wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a pipe? I mean, natural
yoghurt eaters! Reliable, sensible, dependable, and lots of other words
that end in "-ible." He's obsessed with house-prices, and spends half
his life in antique fairs looking for bargains and drinking wine. It's
never beer, is it, it's always wine! "What do you want on your
cornflakes, darling?" "Oh, I'll have some wine, please!" Smeg!

Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)



===

Get yourself a manbun.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (pw+jk)

54 I like my red wine. There are great cheap wines, and great expensive wines, and nasty cheap wines, and nasty expensive wines. If it tastes good and happens to be cheap, so be it. I want my wine to be made by a serious wine dude who cares about his wine, not a fucking hippy who worries about the fucking planet first.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (9Om/r)

Not cheap..."inexpensive"....ya heathen.

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (X/Pw5)

55 "
Elitist is shorter."


Yes, but it implies there's something elite in play, in lieu of any supporting evidence.

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (8DvH0)

56 BTW, What kind of wine pairs best with corn flakes?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (XVuno)

57 So would you refer to people who constantly rave about all-natural wine as multi-orgasnic?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (m45I2)

58 Why do women always leave me for total smegheads?
Why do they dump me for men who wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a
pipe?

Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)

You need to shop in a different store, not Boring Bitches R Us.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:38 PM (9Om/r)

59 I want my wine to be made by a serious wine dude who cares about his wine, not a fucking hippy who worries about the fucking planet first.

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I will sell no wine, before its time.

Posted by: Ernest Gallo at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (XVuno)

60 Get yourself a fedora. I hear that helps.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (hku12)

Get yourself a manbun.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (pw+jk)
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Get yourself a red onesie and a mug of hot chocolate and some hipster glasses. Can't. miss.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (/669Q)

61
Up next: hobo jerk socks.

Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (LNIqw)

62 By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine.

---------------------------------

I'd never heard of it.



I guess my luck was bound to run out sometime.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pNm1M)

I'd never heard of it either, and I turn my nose up at Yellow Tail. (Not to sniff it). We all have to consider ourselves above something, right?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (NMAzL)

63 Did the article mention the critical importance of the box the wine comes in?

Didn't think so.

Animals. They're animals.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (Y4EXg)

64 There are a lot of wines (I'm looking at you Pinot Noir) that would make a Roman Legionnaire go, "bit sour, eh?"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (1glZx)

65 Yes, pretentious twittery always makes it out here to the hinterlands eventually.

Occasionally... not often, but sometimes, when a "trend" is popular on the coasts, we get caught up in it way too early for their tastes, and that ruins it for the coasties.

I kinda like that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (hku12)

It would be SO much fun to deflate these snobs by saying, "Oh yes, that began in Kansas. So it's finally made its way to Manhattan?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (pNm1M)


I think you just described memes.

Memes originate virtually anywhere, and then eventually the cultural snobs get their hands on them. Sometimes even turn them into teevee commercials, which is a sure sign a meme has been dead for some time.

Which is why the ee-eww banned them, and why Youtube is trying desperately to kill itself deader than a poor Jap bastard in a Logan Paul video.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (hku12)

66 Cisero - Are you putting the corn flakes in the wine or on the side?
With milk or dry?

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (ZCEU2)

67 We all have to consider ourselves above something, right?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (NMAzL)
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Indeed. We're all above dirt so as far as I'm concerned we're in tall cotton.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (/669Q)

68 34 I intensely dislike wine snobs.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (fS3vz)


I was once invited to a wine-tasting in SF. Before the festivities began, I was subjected to the Super Bowl of wine snobbery. ("Oh, I recently has this divine Bordeaux." "Hmm. That year was over-rated. You should have had ...")

The doyen then appeared, pontificated for a while, and then proceeded to put the various bottles of expensive wine in brown paper bags (I stifled a chuckle) and began the tasting.

Afterwards he and all of the faithful agreed that one was clearly superior to all the others, and with a flourish, he pulled out a bottle of ... Chateau Ripple. I guess last week was a good year.

He mumbled something about the expensive wines being corked, but ... nah, bro.

I laughed out loud. Needless to say, I was never invited back. Which suited me just fine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (pNm1M)

69 Okay, I'm laughing because my box o'wine is almost empty and time to go out and get another.

Anyone else see the meme of the elderly (D) leaders announcing their impeachment follies with the State they are from above their heads?

NY and CA only.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (MIKMs)

70 Weren't all these pretentious twats exposed years ago when they did a blind taste test?

I recall a story from a while back -- possibly apocryphal and I'm too lazy to check -- about some scandal where someone entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue ribbon.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (qc+VF)

71 Why do women always leave me for total smegheads?

*******

You should be thankful. Her goal was to turn you into a smeghead, she just got impatient and took a shortcut.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (m45I2)

72 And what's a smeghead?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (m45I2)

73 20 out of 21 bottles I drink are red, not into sweet.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (ZCEU2)

74 Wait, I don't want to know.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (m45I2)

75 *sips his diet pepsi* Yup connoisseur.

Posted by: Drew in MO at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (cGlgB)

76
It must be realized these people can only function in a fictional reality.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (KATBx)

77 Did the article mention the critical importance of the box the wine comes in?

Didn't think so.

Animals. They're animals.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (Y4EXg)
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We have not the time to dive into their ignorance of the importance of a good label. By which I mean pretty, or funny, or clever.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (/669Q)

78 I had to switch to box wine because it was so embarrassing the way the recycle can jingled when I put it out on trash day.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (XVuno)

79 Perhaps this writer just yearns for an earlier,
simpler time. A time when most children died, when slavery was prevalent
throughout the world and the Lord of the Manor could have his way with
the peasant wench of his choice without all this #metoo hubbub.



What could be more civilized?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (jp0Bv)



The criticism is that a lot of the people with media presence want to go back to the Stewarts.

And, hey! With Brexit and the threatened Scottish independence, they may yet have their window!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (1glZx)

80 Wine and Golf. Two upper-class affectations that leave me unaffected.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (38jed)

81 If you decide to try this, be sure to do something reverse snobbish and specify that it be made with only authentic Czech pilsner and California free-range lemons or somesuch.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:36

Heh. Great story. Must do this.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:44 PM (Dhht7)

82 80 Wine and Golf. Two upper-class affectations that leave me unaffected.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (38jed)

---

*fistbump*

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:44 PM (RU4sa)

83 I had to switch to box wine because it was so embarrassing the way the recycle can jingled when I put it out on trash day.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (XVuno)
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Move here! After years of being told that we MUST recycle everything we possibly can, we are now being told that glass is no longer being accepted for recycling and we must put it in our trash.

Word is that China was buying our glass to recyle, and they no longer are. So guess what - it's no longer a priority here.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (/669Q)

84 "Elitist is shorter."

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Yes, but it implies there's something elite in play, in lieu of any supporting evidence.
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (8DvH0)


Same with "intellectual." It looks like it implies intelligence, so some people think it's a compliment.


Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (hku12)

85 This applies to everything - food and drink, clothes, tools, your education - if you really need to tell me how much it cost or where it came from, it's probably not all that great.

If it's good, I'll see it for myself. No need to really tell me anything at all - except for where I can get it, if I ask.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (Y8OTr)

86 I intensely dislike wine snobs.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (fS3vz)


Trust me, in the Venn diagram of wine snobs and horse-and-stable owners, the intersectionality looks like a giant anus.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (1glZx)

87 It would be SO much fun to deflate these snobs by saying, "Oh yes, that
began in Kansas. So it's finally made its way to Manhattan?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (pNm1M)

===
FUN FACT
Almost all French wine can be traced back to cuttings that came from... wait for it... TEXAS.
France's wine vines all had a disease and died. Vines brought over from Texas are what French wine is made from.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (pw+jk)

88 ta fuck? wine thread? seriously? what's next, prolapsed rectums? ingrown hairs, damn, i don't know this place at all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (KP5rU)

89 And what's a smeghead?

The term was popularized by (maybe invented by?) the British sci-fi comedy show "Red Dwarf."

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (qc+VF)

90 I have no idea what natural wines are. I'm not a wine drinker so I don't care. Some vintners produce paleo appropriate wines. That could well be a scam. Again, it doesn't matter to me because I'm not a wine drinker.
But I do take an interest in writing and wonder why it was absolutely guaranteed someone writing about natural wine would be a smug, pompous, elitist asshole.
Could someone write about NW with being a pompous asshole?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (Uu+Jp)

91 I know a couple who made wine commercially for decades.

As of them put it: "You lose your desire for "naturalness" really quick." The grapes for almost every vintage are going to be inadequate in some way, so you introduce outside chemicals (sugar, sulphur) to fix the inadequacies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (I2/tG)

92
I had to switch to box wine because it was so embarrassing the way the recycle can jingled when I put it out on trash day.
=====

Small town here and my recycle guy always asks who was visiting when my recycle cans are overflowing.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (MIKMs)

93 "What kind of wine pairs best with corn flakes?"



You can never go wrong with Apple Boones Farm as a breakfast wine.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (4thlk)

94 From back when The Simpsons was funny:

Cecil Terwilliger: Now make yourself at home. Perhaps a glass of Bordeaux? I have the '82 Chateau Latour and a rather indifferent Rausan-Segla.


Sideshow Bob: I've been in prison, Cecil. I'll be happy just as long as it doesn't taste like orange drink fermented under a radiator.

Cecil Terwilliger: That would be the Latour, then

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (IttZ7)

95 Soooo...you don't like spoiled grape juice filtered through a hobo's sock?

Cretin.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (OX9vb)

96 Wow...I have to give the writer credit, that is pompous, elitist, insular, with a soupçon of stupidity and ignorance all wrapped up in one short paragraph.


While attempting to be light with a touch of citrus and herb, this elitist punches above its weight and fails miserably.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (axyOa)

97 Like all these New York Times lifestyle articles, the point is to distinguish yourself from a deplorable Trump voter in Tulsa who doesn't even know what kale is.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (I2/tG)

98 They were playing the snobbery card pretty hard. So when the waiter took our drink orders and both of them had looked at the wine list and were touting the merits of this or that wine, I requested a Radler (half beer and half lemonade). Of course I had to explain how to make it. They were visibly aghast. I enjoyed a nice enough meal and thanked them, then never looked back.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)


I was having lunch with some friends on the bayside deck at Club Chi-Chi in Marin County. Everyone around us was outdoing each other with their exotic drink orders for water ("I'll the sparkling melted glacier water with a twist of organic Chilean lime." That sort of thing.)

My turn came. "I'll have a Perrier and soda."

Nobody laughed. Nobody.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (pNm1M)

99 I recall a story from a while back -- possibly
apocryphal and I'm too lazy to check -- about some scandal where someone
entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue
ribbon.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (qc+VF)

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Now that it is Tree Buck Chuck it must taste 50% better. Three Buck Chuck for the crushing win!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:48 PM (pw+jk)

100 I grew up on a fruit farm. Fruit is sweet. Sweet attracts insects. Plant a peach tree in your yard and in a few years when it is producing a nice bunch of peaches, look at what happens to them if you didn't spray with insecticide.

My first house had a peach tree in the yard. Yea, free peaches. When I told my parents, they just laughed.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (+lVUW)

101 Didja know the grapes are thrown into cages on their way to the chambers, I mean, presses?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (+fPHo)

102 Now that it is Tree Buck Chuck it must taste 50% better. Three Buck Chuck for the crushing win!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:48 PM (pw+jk)
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Peasant. Around here it's Four-Buck Chuck.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (/669Q)

103 i'm a low rent knuckle scraping asshole. last time i drank wine was in high school. whatever.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (KP5rU)

104 Word is that China was buying our glass to recyle, and they no longer are. So guess what - it's no longer a priority here.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45

Heh. They stopped recycling glass here several yrs ago when they got rid of trashmen and purchased automated trash truck picker-uppers. The recycle can is twice the size of our trash can.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (Dhht7)

105 By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine.

Yep - Bangladeshi peasants, Siberian miners, and Kenyan cattle herders are all anxiously discussing the pros and cons of "natural" wine.

The Steinberg poster showing how insular New Yorkers are was intended to be a joke.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (I2/tG)

106 Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.


Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (hku12)

__________________

Not sure why that reminds me of this, but it does:
"Read the [Mueller] Report!!!"
Asks for citation directly from the report.
"Russian bot!"

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:50 PM (8DvH0)

107 I hope their all natural vineyards get wiped out by a blight.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (FP0mT)

108 Hardest hit by the NYT, wine moms drinking cheap wine.



Honey, they just don't want you.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (HALdu)

109 Did the article mention the critical importance of the box the wine comes in?

Didn't think so.

Animals. They're animals.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (Y4EXg)


Some idiot with a book about saving the planet was exposed for the fact that his/her/its book was wrapped in planet killing plastic.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (hku12)

110 My turn came. "I'll have a Perrier and soda."


*******

Ha!

With a splash of Aquafina.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (m45I2)

111 Yellow Tail sucks BTW

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (JFO2v)

112 Almost all French wine can be traced back to cuttings that came from... wait for it... TEXAS.
France's wine vines all had a disease and died. Vines brought over from Texas are what French wine is made from.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (pw+jk)


I believe that that was California, actually. In fairness, it wasn't the whole vine, but rather the root and stem, onto which the French vines were grafted, because the imported roots and stems were resistant to the phylloxera that had devastated French vineyards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (pNm1M)

113 Candice Giove Twitter
Dems worry about "foreign interference" in elections.

Tomorrow, NY starts issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants where people are one check box away from registration.

The People's Republic of New Jersey is right behind them in doing so

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:52 PM (ZCEU2)

114 I simply cannot drink wine. It makes me a bit sad sometimes.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 15, 2019 12:52 PM (TdMsT)

115 Speaking of elitism, I see The Atlantic has performed one of its patented high-brow snark hit pieces on Tucker Carlson. These people are so one-note, so transparent, so unself-aware. They're trying to delegitimize Carlson as a spokesperson for the "little people" because he has a preppy background and a summer home in Maine. Look in the mirror, assholes. Maybe it's got something to do with CHARACTER.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 12:52 PM (H8QX8)

116 110 My turn came. "I'll have a Perrier and soda."


*******

Ha!

With a splash of Aquafina.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (m45I2)


Shaken, not stirred.

Nobody appreciated my comedic efforts. I was so disappointed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (pNm1M)

117 Is "Yellowtail" a racist thing? Because is sounds as if it might be an "internets movie."

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)

118 Well... I cant fix stupid, but I can have another beer.

Posted by: henry at December 15, 2019 12:54 PM (J3Rfi)

119 If you don't like wine, you don't like wine. There is much I don't like but hardly anything I haven't tried, except saki don't think I ever had it.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)

120 Teetotaler, and don't give a shit about wine.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (H8QX8)

121 i'm a low rent knuckle scraping asshole. last time i drank wine was in high school. whatever.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (KP5rU)


No alcohol consumption at all here, but I used to like Missouri wines. Dry whites, in particular.

I'm no connoisseur, but compared to Californican chardonnays that tasted like buttered wood, the Missouri stuff was great.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (hku12)

122 I found the peanut butter.

My dog is watching White Christmas.

FYI

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (HALdu)

123 Yellowtail is a wide produced wine from Australia

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)

124 I would rather have a spirited discussion over Imperial Sugar sweetened Dr Pepper, or the cheaper and far more plentiful HFCS version.

And never forget, it isn't NYT articles like this that intend to be divisive, its #OrangeManBad

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (lD3vL)

125 Indeed. We're all above dirt so as far as I'm concerned we're in tall cotton.

Posted by: bluebell

(starts singing......)

"Oh, jingetty jing....its Dominic the Donk"ey.....

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (arJlL)

126 Word is that China was buying our glass to recyle, and they no longer are. So guess what - it's no longer a priority here.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (/669Q)

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Nearly all of recycling is a big scam. The industry "processes" most materials in exchange for subsidies from the state, which is where recycling companies make their money. The waste material itself is fobbed off on foreign companies who are often paid to take it, a strategy that is economically feasible only because westbound shipping rates are incredibly cheap on otherwise empty containers headed to Asia. Once the waste gets to its destination, most of it is unceremoniously dumped into landfills. Recycled!

And Gaia weeps.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (XVuno)

127 23 I like my red wine. ... If it tastes good and happens to be cheap, so be it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (9Om/r)

Same here. We typically drink it from a box, and I ain't ashamed to say so. It's really the only economical way to drink as much wine as we do. Heh.

I really love Vina Borgia Garnacha, but it's not readily available. Our second choice, which is our House Wine, is Franzia Pinot Noir Carmenere. For the price, it is very pleasant. And Franzia donates to Fisher House, so I don't have to worry about them being too woke.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (OX9vb)

128 They're trying to delegitimize Carlson as a spokesperson for the "little people" because he has a preppy background and a summer home in Maine.

Of course, the populist president is a billionaire developer from New Yawk. That infuriates them, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (38jed)

129 117 Is "Yellowtail" a racist thing? Because is sounds as if it might be an "internets movie."
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)

No yellowtail is not about Japanese hookers!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (JFO2v)

130 Hi Bluebell, JT, April!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (TdMsT)

131 Teetotaler, and don't give a shit about wine.

Alcohol ages people.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)

132 about some scandal where someone
entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue
ribbon.


The genius of the Gallo family is that they figured out how to make the world's best plonk out of grapes grown in nontrendy places like Modesto, and yes, Gallo does occasionally beat expensive French wines in blind taste tests.

Ernest and Julio Gallo make more wine than the Napa Valley.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (I2/tG)

133 Is "Yellowtail" a racist thing? Because is sounds as if it might be an "internets movie."
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)


Yellowtail, the untold story of Korean-American fighter pilots in the Franco-Prussian war.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (hku12)

134 That article tell us more about the Grey Lady than anyone will ever need to know. Pompous assholes.

Posted by: don_in_central_jersey at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (UPDS7)

135 Yellowtail is a wide produced wine from Australia
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)



So there is no surprise version.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (HALdu)

136 Natural wine? I've got a sawbuck says no one at the NYT could identify a muscadine in the wild.

Posted by: Bert G at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (OMsf+)

137 The best wine is dosed with antifreeze

According to the Simpsons

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (vPKfA)

138 Teetotaler, and don't give a shit about wine.

Alcohol ages people.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)


You started it first.

Posted by: Al Cohall at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (hku12)

139 And Chavez!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (TdMsT)

140 Is "Yellowtail" a racist thing?

The Gallo of Australia. The guy who founded Yellowtail died a while back.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (I2/tG)

141 Is "Yellowtail" a racist thing? Because is sounds as if it might be an "internets movie."

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)

Yellow Tail is an Australian wine company that makes very inexpensive varietals that are perfectly good, simple drinking wines. Are they great? No, but they sure are aggressively priced, and I wouldn't turn a glass down.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (wYseH)

142 Same with "intellectual." It looks like it implies intelligence, so some people think it's a compliment.
Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.
...
Burt TC, ever read Thomas Sowell's Intellectuals and Society?

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (51Wdw)

143 I'd rather have natural wine instead of unnatural wine.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (HaL55)

144 Did someone say, *hic* Chardonnay? *bellows* Huma? Another jeroboam!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (IttZ7)

145 Hiya Ladyl !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (arJlL)

146
I don't drink myself. That leaves more for the status-anxious wine moms who do what the Times tells them to.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (7rVsF)

147 Ladyl!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (KP5rU)

148 137 The best wine is dosed with antifreeze

According to the Simpsons
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (vPKfA)

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Dogs love antifreeze wine, so I've heard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (XVuno)

149 The two buck chuck thing is absolutely true. We have had our oenophile friends over and mixed some two buck chuck in with the good stuff and as often as not they rave about the two buck chuck and knock the good stuff.

Mind you I don't fault them for that because wine is a crap shoot and you have no idea what you are going to get until you start drinking.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (HALdu)

150 Made this comment numerous times,
Price just increases your chances of a good bottle but no means guarantees that.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:01 PM (ZCEU2)

151 OT: yesterday I was channel surfing after the Army-Navy game and ran across The Cowboys with John Wayne. I noticed lots of gaps in the dialogue, and it was obvious that "Get the hell out of here" had been changed to "Get the [pause] out of here" and so forth. Thinking of the speech police I noticed two things.

1. Wayne's rant at the stuttering kid who couldn't spit out that the other kid was knocked off his horse in the river was intact, "You little snot-nosed crybaby, you either get yourself under control and stop y9ur pathetic sniveling (etc. etc.)" right up until the word 'hell' was dropped. Ironic.

2. The black cook is named Nightlinger, and for the first time ever it occurred to me what you get if you leave out the middle five letters. Made me wonder if the writers did that on purpose as a little inside joke or if it was purely coincidental.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:01 PM (m45I2)

152
Yellow Tail is an Australian wine company that makes very inexpensive varietals that are perfectly good, simple drinking wines. Are they great? No, but they sure are aggressively priced, and I wouldn't turn a glass down.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (wYseH)



Thanks. Are they one of the ones that advertise on TV?

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:02 PM (HALdu)

153 Nearly all of recycling is a big scam. The industry "processes" most materials in exchange for subsidies from the state, which is where recycling companies make their money. The waste material itself is fobbed off on foreign companies who are often paid to take it, a strategy that is economically feasible only because westbound shipping rates are incredibly cheap on otherwise empty containers headed to Asia. Once the waste gets to its destination, most of it is unceremoniously dumped into landfills. Recycled!

And Gaia weeps.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (XVuno)


Penn and Teller have a nice episode of their Bulls**t series on recycling.

Best part is, if you add up all the landfill that exists in this country, you'd fill up about 1/10,000 of the whole of Kansas with it.

Not only that, landfills tend to be... filled with land. So not doing any dirty polluting that is done by buildings and roads. Just grass and flowers and trees and other greenery. Grass don't care that it's sitting on top of soupcons.... eh, I mean soup cans.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:02 PM (hku12)

154 Do I have to lift a pinky while commenting on this topic?

Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:02 PM (U7voe)

155
When the lower classes have access to goods once considered luxury then those goods have to be disparaged by RightThinkers and new categories defined.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (7rVsF)

156 You can't discuss wine intelligently without throwing around the word "terroir."

Had a neighbor who had one. Little bastard barked constantly. Very annoying.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (HaL55)

157
Caretaker's Raisin Jack, vintage 1974. Straight from the prison toilet, yo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (zBaqJ)

158 I hate this idea lefties have that some earlier time was some perfect utopia and we fucked it all up.

It's utter bullshit.

Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (3BoiW)

159 Read somewhere there's literally maybe a dozen people worldwide--tops--who can actually distinguish between wine

Or was it here?

Nobody reads the content

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (vPKfA)

160 155
When the lower classes have access to goods once considered luxury then those goods have to be disparaged by RightThinkers and new categories defined.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (7rVsF)


And this is the reason the Scoldilocks brigades want to ban air travel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (zBaqJ)

161 I recall a story from a while back -- possibly apocryphal and I'm too lazy to check -- about some scandal where someone entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue ribbon.

It wouldn't surprise me since Two Buck Chuck is deliberately engineered to sell and such will be altered, for as long it fits a price point, to be agreeable.

From what I gather from the "natural wine", you get whatever came up with minimum interference.

Intelligent Design Win !

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (lD3vL)

162 Alcohol ages people.


*******


Not if loaded with preservatives.

Hell, Twinkies are practically health food.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (m45I2)

163 Around the turn of the century (2000) there was an effort by Illinois to revitalize the wine industry. They ran vineyard tours and encouraged farmers or others to diversify into a few acres of wine grapes ... which in the Midwest are hybrids of the more traditional Vinifera.

The horticulture prof I asked about what was needed, said he thought good winemakers was the key. Some guy in Wisconsin grew up in a wine family in France, and he won some national awards even using the more northern varieties. imo it might be more automated over time since the details are really mostly "cookbook", afaik. The key is diligence at every step, in when to pick, then controlling all the variables meticulously. (something robots could do well).

Only a few of the upstarts survived, as we got the wine glut and "Free Trade" meant cheap imports, and California had Two Buck Chuck, which was not bad I heard. But rebuilding rural economies is still a noble concept, and sipping a local wine with a view of the vineyard has romantic appeal. But in the humid Midwest, a regular spray program will be part of the growing process, or the (natural) rots will take over, and they won't be all that noble.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

164 In other news my dog ate one of my gloves.

Fortunately, it would seem that she tore it into tiny pieces before consuming.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (HALdu)

165 For the true kindasewer,

A Bum Wine review.

https://tinyurl.com/35nnh

MD 20/20
Night Train
Thunderbird
Etc

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 01:05 PM (vd8XM)

166 Same with "intellectual." It looks like it implies intelligence, so some people think it's a compliment.
Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.
.....
Burt TC, ever read Thomas Sowell's Intellectuals and Society?

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (51Wdw)


Not yet. It's sitting around here somewhere. Still packed in a box, I believe.

Paul Johnson's book on the subject is a wonderful red meat screed.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:05 PM (hku12)

167 And this is the reason the Scoldilocks brigades want to ban air travel.

Not exactly. They want to ban air travel for you, peasant.

In the ideal Gaian world the of the future, only private jets for the Important People will be allowed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:06 PM (I2/tG)

168 I endorse this essay. Last Christmas, I was responsible for the revolving Advent Booze Calendar for my brothers and myself. My wife and I re-bottled a selection of American Bourbon in decorative bottles, etc. BUT - i purposefully numbered (not labeled) the bottles, precisely to outflank my snob liberal older brother, who would rate the daily dram based on name, if he could. By numbering them, he was 'forced' to reveal his likes before knowing what brand (I revealed the brand only AFTER the ratings we declared). and sure enough, he gave low marks to about half the top shelf brands, and vice versa.

the best thing about having a lib in the family is the never-ending opportunity to pull his chain.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 01:06 PM (iUjXP)

169 Hi, LadyL!

Too bad you can't drink wine.

We can't drink beer, because carbonation aggravates the GERDS, but wine is no problemo.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 01:06 PM (OX9vb)

170 I hate this idea lefties have that some earlier time was some perfect utopia and we fucked it all up.

It's utter bullshit.

Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (3BoiW)

Read Rousseau's Discourse on Inequality. I'm not saying that because it's good-- it's not, it's imbecilic-- but because of what a case study in leftist primitivist fart-sniffing it is.

Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (U7voe)

171 Yes. We're supposed to live like Little House on the Prairie while they enjoy all the trappings of modern convenience. Because betters.

I don't think so.

Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (3BoiW)

172 And this is the reason the Scoldilocks brigades want to ban air travel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December




In fairness, air travel used to be a lot better before the riff raff was able to afford to fly.

I am just old enough to have caught the tail end of the glamorous flights.

I remember when I was flying somewhere and the plane was nearly empty. I was mid cabin and not able to see a stewardess anywhere. I pushed the stewardess button and a fight attendant came out screaming that I should never push the button again because she was busy. I us that as my reference for when the glamorous flights were over.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:08 PM (HALdu)

173 2. The black cook is named Nightlinger, and for the first time ever it occurred to me what you get if you leave out the middle five letters. Made me wonder if the writers did that on purpose as a little inside joke or if it was purely coincidental.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:01 PM (m45I2)


Probably. Script writers do like their inside jokes, and slipping shite past the censors.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (hku12)

174 Yes. We're supposed to live like Little House on the Prairie mud hut in Africa while they enjoy all the trappings of modern convenience. Because betters.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (lD3vL)

175 Told the story a few months ago on its 40th anniversary I saw Led Zepplin at Knebwoth with 200,000 others and a bottle of MD-20 20. It's still made in many flavors.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (ZCEU2)

176 171 Yes. We're supposed to live like Little House on the Prairie while they enjoy all the trappings of modern convenience. Because betters.

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I think Little Camp on the Prairie is more what they have in mind for Deplorables.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 01:10 PM (XVuno)

177 >>Alcohol ages people.

Aging ages people.

A couple years ago I was in Capetown for a week. My customer, who is a big wine drinker, took me on a wine tasting day, visiting about a half dozen wineries in the Cape region.

I know exactly squat about wine but he swore he could tell the difference between different versions of the same wine from wineries a few miles apart.

I couldn't tell much difference but damn that was a fun. Not everyday you get to drink wine while watching baboons. Real ones, not the human kind.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 01:11 PM (ZLI7S)

178 Read Rousseau's Discourse on Inequality. I'm not saying that because it's good-- it's not, it's imbecilic-- but because of what a case study in leftist primitivist fart-sniffing it is.
Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (U7voe)


The aforementioned Paul Johnson points out that Rousseau was fond of knocking up his maids and other assorted dames of low class, and then having the fledgling spawn left on the doorsteps of churches.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:12 PM (hku12)

179 Maurice Chevalier in later life couldn't drink wine because of health reasons. But would go to a restaurant, order ridiculous price wine, just smell the wine and not drink a drop.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:12 PM (ZCEU2)

180 I would think it was not drinking but drinking too much that ages someone.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (HALdu)

181 I guess Yellowtail is un-person red-state prole wine. I've had it at parties. It was fine.

Posted by: Gem at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (65i3Q)

182
Anyone remember the last time the U.S. news media pretended to be impartial? I'll tell you.

It was during Bush's Iraq invasion. The Fake News told us they couldn't possibly "take sides" in the Iraq war. They told us they compelled by journalistic integrity to treat "both sides" fairly. These were, of course, lies, to cover for their anti-Bush anti-USA coverage.

Fast-forward to today, the Fake News media takes sides on Every Single Issue and Event with the Democrats.

The Enemy Of The People.
They will be the first to pay when the time comes.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (hDHPO)

183 Really just another way of saying, "You should not be having any joy at all, unless we tell you too!

Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (RAG36)

184 Okay, I'm a huge wine snob.

This dude is a poseur and an asshole.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (urZJh)

185 Whoops. I meant that CHICK is a poseur and an asshole.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (urZJh)

186 104 Word is that China was buying our glass to recyle, and they no longer are. So guess what - it's no longer a priority here.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45

Heh. They stopped recycling glass here several yrs ago when they got rid of trashmen and purchased automated trash truck picker-uppers. The recycle can is twice the size of our trash can.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (Dhht7)


California is in a conundrum, which it handling in its characteristically idiotic way.

California imposes a deposit requirement on glass and plastic bottles, aluminum cans, etc. Now that Chinese are no longer taking our crap most of the recycling centers are closed. The few that are still open - the state-run ones - have long lines of motorists waiting up to 45 minutes to recycle their crap.

It's almost as if California just wants to pocket the deposits, in its reflexive desire to extract more money from the kulaks, but wait - there's more. The commies, like rust, never sleep. So what does California do? It issues a $3.6 million enforcement action against CVS for failing to pay the $100-a-day fees per store (matched by another $100/d in civil penalties) by way of "holding retailers accountable for refunding consumers their nickel and dime recycling deposits."

I guess CVS forgot to pay la mordida to the appropriate bureaucrats. So California gets paid coming and going.

Nice work if you can get it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (pNm1M)

187 I've thought that if you want to tweak the "woke" wealthy, start putting significant restrictions on the use of private jets - make them pay the full cost of providing them with air traffic control, make them a nondeductible business expense, prohibit members of Congress from flying in private jets, etc.

The screaming would be epic.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:15 PM (I2/tG)

188 Afterwards he and all of the faithful agreed that
one was clearly superior to all the others, and with a flourish, he
pulled out a bottle of ... Chateau Ripple. I guess last week was a good
year.



He mumbled something about the expensive wines being corked, but ... nah, bro.



I laughed out loud. Needless to say, I was never invited back. Which suited me just fine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (pNm1M)


I got forced into a wine tasting by the inlaws one time, over my objections. So I did it in a way that is fitting to my nic. I put on one of my music T shirts which consisted of a skeleton in chains holding a guitar, and a black leather dress jacket. I get to the wine tasting, listen to the bloviating over this one wine. While everybody is twirling their glasses I just grabbed the glass, poured the whole thing in my mouth, tilted my head back and gargled with it, then swallowed, looked at my inlaws and said "thats some good shit".
Its a mistake they have not repeated.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:15 PM (9Om/r)

189 We need to start bottling Pharaoh's Beer. It was organic I'm sure.

Barton and Guestier Cotes Du Rhone is my go to red, 12 bucks a bottle, 4 Euros in France.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at December 15, 2019 01:15 PM (iTfiy)

190 184 Okay, I'm a huge wine snob.

This dude is a poseur and an asshole.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (urZJh)

185 Whoops. I meant that CHICK is a poseur and an asshole.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (urZJh)


Did you ask this person for their pronouns? Looks like you just assumed.

How DARE you!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:16 PM (hku12)

191 Not a fan of wine.
I can drink it, but I drink wine like I drink beer. Very quickly and then looking for another.
Then it's drunk Bruce time way to early

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (vd8XM)

192 Vanya- I always put Leftism's start in the French Revolution and it's quest for equality and their class warfare.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (ZCEU2)

193 I finally checked out facelift Hillary. Wow! She looks ridiculous. How much wine can she store in those cheeks?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

194 Read Rousseau's Discourse on Inequality. I'm not saying that because it's good-- it's not, it's imbecilic-- but because of what a case study in leftist primitivist fart-sniffing it is.
Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (U7voe)


It really is. Rousseau has so much to answer for. He started that "noble savage in a state of nature" thing. Utter nonsense. You don't have to go to Borneo to find that out. Just have a power outage on a hot summer night in any city to be instantly disabused of Rousseau's risible notion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (pNm1M)

195 193 vodka

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (ZCEU2)

196 It is funny how the inconsistency and unreliability of wine is considered a good thing by oenophiles.


Who wants to buy a car, or anything, where quality varies hugely from year to year?

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (HALdu)

197 So California gets paid coming and going.

Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (pNm1M)


Gets said a million times a week around here... I just don't understand how anyone can justify to themselves staying in that godforsaken state.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (hku12)

198 The Enemy Of The People. 
They will be the first to pay when the time comes.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (hDHPO)

Remember their names and faces.

Posted by: Ha at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (UU64l)

199 Down in New Orleans where everything's fine
All them cats they love sweet wine


Wine, wine, wine
Elderberry
Wine, wine, wine
Blackberry
Wine, wine, wine
Oh cherry
Pass that bottle to me

Posted by: MD 2020 (M being for Miklos) at December 15, 2019 01:21 PM (QzkSJ)

200 $4 a bottle Primitivo at TJ, drink it with pride

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (t1ckn)

201 191 Not a fan of wine.
I can drink it, but I drink wine like I drink beer. Very quickly and then looking for another.
Then it's drunk Bruce time way to early
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (vd8XM)

Few I drink beer slowly. A local brewery has those big steins available but I never use because the beer would be warm by the time I got to the bottom.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

202 Wine? What luxury! We were lucky if we got to smell a grape stomper's feet!

Posted by: a whiner at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Tnijr)

203 http://bit.ly/35qNQXr
*******
THIS is FABULOUS
We're mad as hell & we're NOT going to take it anymore!
#QuidProJoe getting called OUT! "Son of a Bitch he got Fired, right Joe?"

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (BqBId)

204 Few I drink beer slowly. A local brewery has those big steins available but I never use because the beer would be warm by the time I got to the bottom.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

The solution is obvious: drink faster.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

205 I know perfectly well that wine-snob chatter sounds pretentious and meaningless, like they're competing to come up with the most bizarre similes for flavors. "Overtones of creosote and Skittles" or whatever.

But then I listen to beer bores having dick-length contests about hops. "Oh, that's hoppy!" "Not as hoppy as THIS!" "Oh, yeah, well here's one that's TEN TIMES more hoppy!" "Well this one is FIFTY TIMES MORE HOPPY!"

It's all just because nobody is self-confident enough to say "This is good. I like it."

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (urZJh)

206 Whoops. I meant that CHICK is a poseur and an asshole.
Posted by: Trimegistus


Oh sure.

Trimegistus and his Old Falernian.

Posted by: Miklos, unsnobbed at December 15, 2019 01:23 PM (QzkSJ)

207 The solution is obvious: drink faster.
Posted by: Insomniac

Plastic straws may be illegal, but plastic beer funnels are not.

Yet.

Posted by: Miklos, who can also shotgun at December 15, 2019 01:24 PM (QzkSJ)

208 For me it is Fransia or nothing. It is from a box people. At least some of the box is biodegradable

To quote their hero Stalin "There is a quality in quantity."

Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 01:25 PM (RAG36)

209 new york times? they're awful, snotty, elitist, pompous, naughty, bawdy, gaudy, sporty...

42nd street!

it's on the tube right now! what a pip!

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 01:26 PM (Pg+x7)

210

"You aim to please me,
cook black eyed peas me,
drink elderberry wine..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:27 PM (zBaqJ)

211 Paul Johnson's book on the subject is a wonderful red meat screed.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:05 PM (hku12)


It really is. It reveals just what self-serving hypocritical swine most of the intellectuals - including most especially Marx - actually were.

In stark contrast I read a German reader (for language students) published in the USSR on the lives of Marx and Engels. I had not realized that birds used to alight on Marx's shoulders, in recognition of his saintliness.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (pNm1M)

212 There are going to be nationwide rallies to support impeachment on Tuesday.

I predict that it will be hilarious how few people show up.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (I2/tG)

213 208 For me it is Fransia or nothing. It is from a box people. At least some of the box is biodegradable

To quote their hero Stalin "There is a quality in quantity."
Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 01:25 PM (RAG36)


T-34s and IL-2's "Quantity has a quality all its own."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (zBaqJ)

214 "filtered through a hobo's sock" made me bust out laughing. I just got kicked off Twitter for 7th time so I'm back here for laughs.

Posted by: Mimi at December 15, 2019 01:29 PM (8i7Ho)

215 In stark contrast I read a German reader (for language students) published in the USSR on the lives of Marx and Engels. I had not realized that birds used to alight on Marx's shoulders, in recognition of his saintliness.

The Communists just cribbed from the "Lives of the Saints" to provide virtues for their pantheon.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:29 PM (I2/tG)

216 incidentally, i just learned that the taste of mediocre wine can be improved by putting a few berries (eg blueberry, strawberry) in the glass.

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 01:31 PM (Pg+x7)

217 T-34s and IL-2's "Quantity has a quality all its own."

Hitler once got a briefing on how many tanks the Soviet Union was producing. (It turned out that the briefing was quite accurate.)

He flew into a range, screaming that it was simply impossible that the USSR was building so many tanks.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:32 PM (I2/tG)

218 The Communists just cribbed from the "Lives of the Saints" to provide virtues for their pantheon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:29 PM (I2/tG)


Yep. The book danced around how Marx used to sponge off of people around him, and made much of how his family suffered from cold and poor nutrition. Capitalism's fault, you know.

Hey Karl, how about getting off your ass and getting a job, instead of spending all your time writing that drivel while your children pop off from living rough?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:33 PM (pNm1M)

219 In stark contrast I read a German reader (for language students) published in the USSR on the lives of Marx and Engels. I had not realized that birds used to alight on Marx's shoulders, in recognition of his saintliness.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (pNm1M)

Yup...the birds were actually feeding from the open boils and sores which had gone rancid, hence, insects.

Marx was a giver.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (Z+IKu)

220 incidentally, i just learned that the taste of mediocre wine can be improved by putting a few berries (eg blueberry, strawberry) in the glass.
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 01:31 PM (Pg+x7)



Want to see how that goes over with a wine snob.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (HALdu)

221 Oh geez Sooper Genius Grumpy Greta says "overcrowded trains are actually quite a good thing after all because it means less cars on the road". These people alter their reality to suit the moment.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (Tnijr)

222 Yup...the birds were actually feeding from the open boils and sores which had gone rancid, hence, insects.

Marx was a giver.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (Z+IKu)


He was providing a habitat!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:35 PM (pNm1M)

223 All right, I've done some extensive research about Ms.Feiring and "natural wine" (looked sh!t up on wiki) and...this is what happens when zealots take on a somewhat worthy cause. For those who don't have time to do my in-depth research : natural wine movement started in France in the 60's - some purists rebelled agains pesticide and additives and sulfites in winemaking. They wanted to get back to the basics and preserve the ways of old. Nothing wrong with that. Purists do that. Especially French ones. They do it to wine, perfume, saddle making, you name it. In many ways they succeed - wines, perfumes and saddles turn out to be of high quality and prices charged for said goods reflect the meticulous process involved. They do it for the love of product, the love of the game. On the other hand, Mz. Feiring seems to have picked up the banner and is ramming, wine-shaming as it were, innocents for just liking and producing wine that does not confirm to natural wine making standards. As zealots would.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:35 PM (zr5Kq)

224 Klimafuhrer

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (HALdu)

225 I think that is the longest post I've ever entered in my many decades here on AoSHQ !

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (zr5Kq)

226 He was providing a habitat!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

*******

A terroir, if you will.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (m45I2)

227 224 comments and nothing about "wine moms"?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (H8QX8)

228 I've done some extensive research about Ms.Feiring and "natural wine" (looked sh!t up on wiki) and...this is what happens when zealots take on a somewhat worthy cause. For those who don't have time to do my in-depth research : natural wine movement started in France in the 60's - some purists rebelled agains pesticide and additives and sulfites in winemaking. They wanted to get back to the basics and preserve the ways of old. Nothing wrong with that. Purists do that. Especially French ones. They do it to wine, perfume, saddle making, you name it. In many ways they succeed - wines, perfumes and saddles turn out to be of high quality and prices charged for said goods reflect the meticulous process involved. They do it for the love of product, the love of the game. On the other hand, Mz. Feiring seems to have picked up the banner and is ramming, wine-shaming as it were, innocents for just liking and producing wine that does not confirm to natural wine making standards. As zealots would.
Posted by: runner at December




Hunter Biden does the sex version of this.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:37 PM (HALdu)

229 *conform to standards...

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:37 PM (zr5Kq)

230 226 He was providing a habitat!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

*******

A terroir, if you will.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (m45I2)


So he was a ... terroirist?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:38 PM (pNm1M)

231 204 Few I drink beer slowly. A local brewery has those big steins available but I never use because the beer would be warm by the time I got to the bottom.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

The solution is obvious: drink faster.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

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ikr?

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 01:39 PM (RU4sa)

232 Well, this is wine-worthy-


Chris Wallace asked Comey if, had he known about the problems with the FBI FISA applications (Comey signed them, but claims he didn't know about, um, issues), would you have resigned?

"No, I don't think so. There were mistakes I consider more consequential than this during my tenure."

Pray tell, St. James.

Posted by: Miklos, citing an "admission against interest" at December 15, 2019 01:39 PM (QzkSJ)

233 224 comments and nothing about "wine moms"?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (H8QX




I thought the wine moms drank wine to get ready for or forget the surprise analling.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:40 PM (HALdu)

234 comments and nothing about "wine moms"?

I'm going to vote for people who want to fill my nice suburb with Section 8 housing, and raise the price of the gasoline that fuels my SUV to $10, because that nasty Trump Tweets mean things.

Posted by: Wine Moms! at December 15, 2019 01:40 PM (I2/tG)

235 227 224 comments and nothing about "wine moms"?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (H8QX

---

My other g-babie's grandmother is a wine mom.

She has a "Wine-o'clock" sweater.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 01:40 PM (RU4sa)

236 Runner - still here? i had to leave earlier and run some errands, so only saw your follow-up just now.

My grandfather - an Army combat engineer - witnessed war crimes during the Battle of the Bulge. He watched some members of Peiper's column gun down some Belgian civilians. At war's end, he was transferred from the unit he commanded, and assigned to the tribunals, in some capacity. That's what my research entails - trying to find out what he was doing. He never wrote or, to my knowledge, spoke to any family about ANY of this, nor of his 'added' assignment.


Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (iUjXP)

237 like spoiled grape juice filtered through a hobo's sock,


*********

Pied-a-terroir!


(First time I ever made a pun in French.)

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (m45I2)

238 You can shoot your oldtimey smoothbore musket and revel in its authenticity. I will continue to use my newfangled M4 carbine. It works much better for me.

Latest news from Wa. has global enwarmening turning grapes grown in the hayseed portion into a lesser quality product. Beware.
Can't wait for the suns developing Maunder Minimum causing the freezing out of the crop. We can then go on state mandated dead winery tours to rip out vines and pull plows to get ready to plant winter wheat.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 15, 2019 01:42 PM (e1mEI)

239 But CBD, what did you think of the article?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2019 01:42 PM (CPk08)

240
I thought sulfiting red wine was a pretty old practice. Just burn some sulfur and put the SO2 gas into the cask partway through the aging process. Pretty low tech.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 01:42 PM (t5m5e)

241 Skip at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (ZCEU2)


Read John Robison's 'Proofs of a Conspiracy', published in 1798. If I remember it correctly, the last few chapters read like Karl Marx.

Posted by: Grannymimi at December 15, 2019 01:43 PM (u5LFV)

242 Alice is hurting. Her worldview is being threatened. She wants a hug.

Posted by: mrp at December 15, 2019 01:43 PM (Pqytn)

243 Great new tweet by Trump:

"There was tremendous bias and guilt exposed [in IG Report], so obvious, but Horowitz couldn't get himself to say it. Big credibility loss. Obama knew everything!"

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:43 PM (H8QX8)

244 Some people did something.

Posted by: James Comey the Holy at December 15, 2019 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)

245 56
BTW, What kind of wine pairs best with corn flakes?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (XVuno)

A nice wheat vodka.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2019 01:44 PM (CPk08)

246 (First time I ever made a pun in French.)

And funny!


Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (gd9RK)

247 Prison wine is a natural as it gets.

Some water and fruit fermenting in a toilet bowl. 100% organic.

These people are non-smart.

Posted by: nip at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (cpS4u)

248 My grandfather - an Army combat engineer - witnessed war crimes during the Battle of the Bulge. He watched some members of Peiper's column gun down some Belgian civilians. At war's end, he was transferred from the unit he commanded, and assigned to the tribunals, in some capacity. That's what my research entails - trying to find out what he was doing. He never wrote or, to my knowledge, spoke to any family about ANY of this, nor of his 'added' assignment.


Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (iUjXP)

Present! Thanks for that. Good luck to you. I know about Nuremberg (of course), not much, or at all, about the other two that were taking place. I think it is a very worthwhile endeavor. Many who took part did not write memoirs, and I imagine the record is what is "in the record", documents that went into proceedings.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (zr5Kq)

249 People are always going to need status markers to show that they are better than everyone else because actually being better than everyone else would be a lot of work. But wine snobbery doesn't bother me overmuch. You find this kind of behavior in virtually every niche hobby or pursuit. Vinyl records, speakers, gadgets. You name it, there's some one out there who thinks your mundane consumer choices mark you as a savage or imbecile. And they always have a mouthful of jargon to talk down to you about it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 15, 2019 01:47 PM (H5knJ)

250 Life in the Bay Area:

Five more cars were struck by projectiles Saturday night bringing the total number of cases to 61 since February, according to the California Highway Patrol.

...

The CHP said there have been 11 reported attacks in the last three days with two on Thursday and four projectile attacks on Friday.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (I2/tG)

251 Scaled back wine when great craft brews showed up at the market. Now, there is even a brew pub and an actual microbrewery in my podunk town
These are great times!

Posted by: roy_batty at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (lWkJv)

252 So, I was doing a deep clean-out and reorganization of my garage this week. I came across several bottles of home brew beer that I had made back in probably 2007 or so. Obviously I had to crack one open and take a taste.

Lesson learned- skunky beer is NOT improved by a dozen years in a non-temperature controlled garage.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (m45I2)

253 I will tolerate no snobbishness in my wine.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (V3fhb)

254 "Elitist is shorter."



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Yes, but it implies there's something elite in play, in lieu of any supporting evidence.

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (8DvH0)





Same with "intellectual." It looks like it implies intelligence, so some people think it's a compliment.





Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.

Best phrase I heard from elsewhere is "Comfy Class." Degrading without praising.
The best wine story I heard was told by one of the "Freakonomic" authors. When he was a student at Yale, he had to assemble the wine for some faculty shindig. You won't believe what happened next.

Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (rdUEL)

255 Fucking vinyl records. I can't even. I just can't.
I do miss the record covers though, spent many an hour staring at and studying those.

Posted by: nip at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (cpS4u)

256 Of course your URL link won't work.

http://freakonomics.com/2008/07/16/cheap-wine/

Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at December 15, 2019 01:51 PM (rdUEL)

257 When he was a student at Yale, he had to assemble the wine for some faculty shindig. You won't believe what happened next.
Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet

My experience with academic reception wine was that it always had to be the cheapest French white wine.

Posted by: Strom Thurmond's Nose at December 15, 2019 01:53 PM (QzkSJ)

258 I worked for Gallo Winery and sold a ton of different wines...my biggest sellers were white zins and sweet reds in boxes or jugs.... wine snobs would freak

Posted by: Some guy in Wisconsin at December 15, 2019 01:55 PM (ClCgE)

259 I worked for Gallo Winery and sold a ton of different wines...my biggest sellers were white zins and sweet reds in boxes or jugs.... wine snobs would freak
Posted by: Some

I will drink no wine before..Ok, it's time.

Posted by: Miklos the poor man's Oeneophile at December 15, 2019 01:57 PM (QzkSJ)

260 I grew up in Napa, and man do I hate bullshit wine aesthetes.

Posted by: Al Crapton at December 15, 2019 01:58 PM (GlmxK)

261 231 204 Few I drink beer slowly. A local brewery has those big steins available but I never use because the beer would be warm by the time I got to the bottom.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

The solution is obvious: drink faster.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

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ikr?
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 01:39 PM (RU4sa)

I go to the local taproom primarily in the hope of finding people to chat with. And so I chat whilst drinking beer, which makes the drinking slower.
I like the beer produced by local microbreweries but I'm honestly not snobbish about it.
Oddly enough my experience is that people drinking beer are friendlier than people drinking coffee. Or, for that matter, cocktails. Just my personal observation.

I've have never, even once, been in a wine bar.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 01:58 PM (Uu+Jp)

262 It was a light and fruity snark. Pretentious yet lacking in style or fact.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 01:59 PM (axyOa)

263 My town has a microbrewery right next to the Podunk River

Posted by: Regular joe at December 15, 2019 01:59 PM (6/uwW)

264 251 Scaled back wine when great craft brews showed up at the market. Now, there is even a brew pub and an actual microbrewery in my podunk town
These are great times!
Posted by: roy_batty at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (lWkJv)

My small community has two microbreweries and a distillery. Kind of an interesting local development.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:00 PM (Uu+Jp)

265 250 Rocks I presume? Or bottles and other such

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (ZCEU2)

266 What's the word?
Thunderbird!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

267 252
So, I was doing a deep clean-out and reorganization of my garage this
week. I came across several bottles of home brew beer that I had made
back in probably 2007 or so. Obviously I had to crack one open and take a
taste.



Lesson learned- skunky beer is NOT improved by a dozen years in a non-temperature controlled garage.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (m45I2)


You are obviously wrong.

Posted by: Skuns everywhere. at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (CPk08)

268 Taprooms for both microbreweries are child and pet friendly. It's something I appreciate.

I can always start a dog conversation.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

269 What's the word?
Thunderbird!
Posted by: Insomniac

But Olde English 800 has the power.

Posted by: Miklos, hand me anothe Mickey's Big Mouth, s'il vous plait at December 15, 2019 02:03 PM (QzkSJ)

270 One of the few benefits of Twitter is the exposure of "journalists" as largely ignorant and profoundly stupid; their bias was known but the depths of their idiocy was generally not. This article is exactly what you would expect from the Blue Check Mark cretins.

I actually grew up with natural wine. It is absolute crap for the most part, largely because it is so unstable. I traveled through Sonoma and Napa several years back and the trendy "organic" wine was all the rage. I caught the eye of several vinters who seemed amused and disdainful. There were a few exceptions but this was the wine of my youth: unbalanced, too fruit forward, unnecessarily acidic. It often has to be those things, or becomes those things, when sulfites and sugar are not used. "Natural" wines age poorly for the most part, and at their best are a few months old and taste of Gamay.

This is so dumb I hope the writer gets tremendous blowback, but he'll stupidly chalk it up to people's lack of enlightenment.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:04 PM (iw59Q)

271 But Olde English 800 has the power.
Posted by: Miklos, hand me anothe Mickey's Big Mouth, s'il vous plait at December 15, 2019 02:03 PM (QzkSJ)

Back in my day, a fawty of Olde English was as close to craft beer as you were going to get at the gas station convenience store.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:04 PM (NWiLs)

272 Northern, I went to an italian place last night, got a beer and small pizza to go. She forgot the "to go" part so I asked for a plate. Talked to a nice gentleman from OR. He was heading up to ski country. I should do that more often.

Although, I spent all day running errands in meat space, the bar was a nice break.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 02:05 PM (MTxDQ)

273 266 What's the word?
Thunderbird!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

lol. Hows it sold? Good and cold. Whats the jive? Birds alive. Whats the price? Thirty twice. At least it was.

Posted by: Al Crapton at December 15, 2019 02:05 PM (GlmxK)

274 I have a 1976 German Reisling that I've kept cool and shaded. No idea what it would taste like.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 02:06 PM (axyOa)

275 I have a 1976 German Reisling that I've kept cool and shaded. No idea what it would taste like.


===

oh, dear....

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)

276 Diogenes, let someone else open it and taste it...got any neighbors you don't care for ?

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)

277 Drink the 2019 Presumptuous Fop now because Trump is going to turn it into 2020 Flop Sweat.

Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2019 02:08 PM (FhXTo)

278 I have a 1976 German Reisling that I've kept cool and shaded. No idea what it would taste like.


Do whites continue to develop in the bottle? I think not, but I'm not sure.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 02:09 PM (gd9RK)

279 Rocket Fuel malt liquor! DAAAAAMN!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:09 PM (NWiLs)

280 I was once given a bottle of Albanian wine (in the 80's). Less said the better.

I guess Enver Hoxha, as a former French teacher, got all the good stuff.

Posted by: Miklos, Bulgarian brandy also has interesting effects at December 15, 2019 02:10 PM (QzkSJ)

281 Do whites continue to develop in the bottle?

This is the Moron way.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:10 PM (NWiLs)

282 Diogenes - my educated guess not to good, so don't be afraid of opening it. But you never know if you don't.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)

283 Rocket Fuel malt liquor! DAAAAAMN!
Posted by: Insomniac

Look out for the Bull, the Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull...

Posted by: Miklos, now an upscale Valu-Rite snob at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (QzkSJ)

284 Barefoot, organically-raised French farm girls.

You know the rules.

http://www.solsoya.com/blog-1/2016/10/12/wybalena-organic-farm

Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (FhXTo)

285 "278 I have a 1976 German Reisling that I've kept cool and shaded. No idea what it would taste like.


Do whites continue to develop in the bottle? I think not, but I'm not sure."

There are a few high end Spatlese-type Rieslings (I abhor them, but whaevs) that age well. But about 99 percent of whites are meant to be consumed within three years.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)

286 Diogenes - my educated guess not to good, so don't be afraid of opening it. But you never know if you don't.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)

Over the years it's become just something to have.
The cork sure is an interesting color.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 02:12 PM (axyOa)

287 Do whites continue to develop in the bottle?


Is it OK to be white?

Posted by: Woke Chardonnay at December 15, 2019 02:12 PM (QzkSJ)

288 I have a couple of red wines from late 90s, those I expect should be fine barring spoilage.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:12 PM (ZCEU2)

289 Champaign making process is interesting. Ever wonder how those bubbles get in there ?

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:14 PM (zr5Kq)

290 Wine actually seeps into the cork, and if stored upright, air can get in destroying the wine.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:14 PM (ZCEU2)

291 Bottle of Wine

https://youtu.be/FZynyHW2hfw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 02:14 PM (+y/Ru)

292 I have to give the writer credit, that is pompous, elitist, insular, with a soupcon of stupidity and ignorance all wrapped up in one short paragraph.
________

Challenge accepted.

The biblical Noah, for anyone who still believes in the fairy tales from the so-called Old Testament, was fabled to be a vintner. The cultural heritage of natural winemaking and the resultant natural wine are so old that their prediluvian origins are surely components of as-yet undiscovered elements of the human genome. Tragically, this heritage was undermined by the quote-unquote New Testament with its depiction of wine being miraculously created from water; this, it should be noted, was for a wedding. With the parable of an extranatural process of producing wine making its way into Western culture, is it any wonder that divorce rates have skyrocketed over the past two millennia?

Granted it's not a short paragraph, but it has a couple of bonus attacks in it.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 15, 2019 02:15 PM (ScWBu)

293 Italians cheat at wine making.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:15 PM (zr5Kq)

294 I'm having a Heineken of excellent vintage as we speak.

Heineken - the shit you drink out of country when you don't trust anything else. They make Schneider here - which is pretty good - but they don't have it at the bar and I don't feel like walking to the local liquor store.

So - green bottle it is.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:16 PM (bYn+n)

295
Champaign making process is interesting. Ever wonder how those bubbles get in there ?
Posted by: runner


Lawrence Welk bubble machine.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2019 02:16 PM (aKsyK)

296 I have a few local wines people gave me, I wouldn't have liked them new so they are not going to be any better aged and they could be 10 years old.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:17 PM (ZCEU2)

297 There are a few high end Spatlese-type Rieslings (I
abhor them, but whaevs) that age well. But about 99 percent of whites
are meant to be consumed within three years.


Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)

Especially if you're not storing them properly. Most people aren't.
With respect to sulfites, there is a segment of the population that seeks out sulfite-free wine because sulfites, even in just one glass of wine, will give them headaches.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2019 02:18 PM (6ezlu)

298 sniff, the only wine I drink is mead. Scandi nectar of the god /s
I'd probably drink normal wine but my stomach says no go. Rather odd, because I tend more towards cast iron stomach in general.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 15, 2019 02:18 PM (n4y+3)

299 Some madeira originally destined for Thomas Jefferson was salvaged from a sunken barge in the Potomac several years ago. Sold at auction, apparently drinkable, but that's madeira.

Some 1915 champagne destined for the Czar was also salvaged from a ship sunk in the Baltic by a U-Boat. Well preserved, apparently also drinkable.

For myself, to be on the safe side, I try to drink all wine within 30 minutes of purchase. Actually, the supermarket parking lot is fine.

Posted by: Miklos, Waffle House sommelier at December 15, 2019 02:19 PM (QzkSJ)

300 sniff, the only wine I drink is mead.

Way too sweet for me - but, that's why they make all kinds, right ?

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:19 PM (bYn+n)

301 Somebody should do a 4chan style troll of wine snobs by raving about the obvious superiority of wine glasses where the rim diameter, the stem length, and the base circumference follow the golden ratio or a Fibonacci sequence or similar malarkey*. I'd bet a Two Three Four Buck Chuck that nobody calls BS for at least a day.

* This one's for you, Joe!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 02:20 PM (GsSQN)

302 With respect to sulfites, there is a segment of the population that seeks out sulfite-free wine because sulfites, even in just one glass of wine, will give them headaches.


==

True fact. Sulfites suck. Cali reds are rife with sulfites. European red wines, not so much. This is purely based on runner headache tachometer readings.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (zr5Kq)

303 "297 There are a few high end Spatlese-type Rieslings (I
abhor them, but whaevs) that age well. But about 99 percent of whites
are meant to be consumed within three years.


Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)

Especially if you're not storing them properly. Most people aren't.
With respect to sulfites, there is a segment of the population that seeks out sulfite-free wine because sulfites, even in just one glass of wine, will give them headaches."

My girlfriend does. The tannins from red make it worse so she pretty well just drinks whites. Unfortunately, she loathes "natural" wine as much as I do.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)

304 For myself, to be on the safe side, I try to drink all wine within 30 minutes of purchase. Actually, the supermarket parking lot is fine.
Posted by: Miklos, Waffle House sommelier at December 15, 2019 02:19 PM (QzkSJ)

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lol

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:22 PM (RU4sa)

305 295
Champaign making process is interesting. Ever wonder how those bubbles get in there ?
Posted by: runner

Lawrence Welk bubble machine.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2019 02:16 PM (aKsyK)

I grew up thinking champagne had to be horrid because of this show. If it made you want to listen to Norma Zimmer it had to be crap.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 02:22 PM (U7k5w)

306 My girlfriend does. The tannins from red make it worse so she pretty well just drinks whites. Unfortunately, she loathes "natural" wine as much as I do.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)

Does she have the same problem with French, Italian, Spanish reds ?

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (zr5Kq)

307 In all seriousness - this entire discussion breaks down two types of people.

I like the people that turn you on to something good, and then let you know that "it only costs X and you can get it all day at Y". Those are my peeps.

To me - finding a good value is the best type of class distinction.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (bYn+n)

308 For myself, to be on the safe side, I try to drink
all wine within 30 minutes of purchase. Actually, the supermarket
parking lot is fine.

Posted by: Miklos, Waffle House sommelier



Well sure, if you are into pointless self-denial. I try to finish it before exiting the checkout line.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (T6t7i)

309 300: They make mead in varying sweetnesses also. But I don't care for the very dry ones. Regardless I'm just riffing a bit. I'm mostly a barley pop gal and sometimes mixed drinks.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (n4y+3)

310 Serve your "natural wine" along with "natural cheese".


Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)

311 Outtakes of a drunk Orson Welles for Paul Masson wine.

https://tinyurl.com/y6bw8lj8

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (H8QX8)

312 Currently imbibing on a Stag, watching the snow.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (RU4sa)

313 Outtakes of a drunk Orson Welles for Paul Masson wine.

https://tinyurl.com/y6bw8lj8
Posted by: Dan Smoot's

Heh

Posted by: Miklos, raising a glass at December 15, 2019 02:26 PM (QzkSJ)

314 Random thought. If Stormy Daniels writes an autobiography, she could name it Deep In the End Zone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)

315 > Do whites continue to develop in the bottle? I think not, but I'm not sure.

The wines I drink are best consumed from a brown paper bag underneath a freeway overpass.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (WsmTT)

316

Ruinite or Aste Spumanti?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (hDHPO)

317 310 Serve your "natural wine" along with "natural cheese".


Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)

Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (Uu+Jp)

318 "Do whites continue to develop in the bottle?"

They do better in re-education camps. Or so I'm told.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (H8QX8)

319
When wine snobs start caterwauling about the superiority of a particular category of wine, without any thought given to specifics, I'm reminded of The Judgement Of Paris from 1976.

A famous limey wine merchant set up a wine tasting pitting various California wines against well-known French wines with the goal of knocking down the American upstarts (the limey ONLY sold Frog wines). He recruited some of the best, most prestigious wine critics in the world to conduct the blind tasting and publicized the hell out of it beforehand.

To everyone's surprise, including the wine critics (who all HATED the idea of California wines), the California wines came out on top of EVERY category.

Oops.

The limey got himself banned from the French wine tasting tours for a year as punishment for stupidly showing that Frog wines were overrated. And for the next 40 years the Frogs have screamed about how the tasting was biased, the Americans cheated, the sun was shining too brightly that day etc. Anything but that they had spent too many years resting on their previous reputation.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (eXA4G)

320 > Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?

No, that stuff smells better.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:29 PM (WsmTT)

321 I'm mostly a barley pop gal and sometimes mixed drinks.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (n4y+3)


Heard a new term for that just recently - a "frosty wheat soda".

I've probably never had a "good" mead - it's always just a home-made thing. And nothing wrong with that - I've had plenty of great home brews and like to think I made a few in my time. But the mead I've tried always tasted like the stuff I ended up with after the boil, before I pitched the hops.

I'd try it again. But Hell, the list of shit I've tried would make Satan blush.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:29 PM (bYn+n)

322 "306 My girlfriend does. The tannins from red make it worse so she pretty well just drinks whites. Unfortunately, she loathes "natural" wine as much as I do.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)

Does she have the same problem with French, Italian, Spanish reds ?"

Yes, although as you pointed out the Euros aren't as heavy on sulfites. Tempranaillo will give her a headache and it's probably the one least likely to have heavy sulfites.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:29 PM (iw59Q)

323
Oops.

The limey got himself banned from the French wine tasting tours for a year as punishment for stupidly showing that Frog wines were overrated. And for the next 40 years the Frogs have screamed about how the tasting was biased, the Americans cheated, the sun was shining too brightly that day etc. Anything but that they had spent too many years resting on their previous reputation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (eXA4G)

ever see the movie Bottle Shock? I don't know how accurate it is, but it's a fun telling of those events.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 02:30 PM (jp0Bv)

324 "outtakes of a drunk orson welles..."

he was such a pathetic figure those last years, those last decades, but i've watched some interviews from those years on youtube and her's surprisingly lucid, perceptive, unneurotic, and interesting.

worth a review.

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:30 PM (Pg+x7)

325 Ruinite or Aste Spumanti?

Posted by: Soothsayer

No no, you no wanna dat!

Posted by: Aldo Cella at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (QzkSJ)

326 317 310 Serve your "natural wine" along with "natural cheese".

Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)

Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (Uu+Jp)


We need Brie Larsen's take on this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (pNm1M)

327 Wine all comes from the same place: the liquor store. And Lo! and Behold! When I go to the liquor store, I find they have rum and beer, so i get those, instead.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (Ol3ZL)

328 Can weed buffs tell the difference between varieties of bud?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (Uu+Jp)

329 "318 "Do whites continue to develop in the bottle?"

They do better in re-education camps. Or so I'm told."

Along these lines, stock up on South African wines while you can.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (iw59Q)

330 COMEY NOOD

(there's a frightening thought)

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (ZCEU2)

331 Any wine is enhanced by filtering it through a once-worn nylon.

Posted by: Steve Kroft at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (QE8X6)

332 We need Brie Larsen's take on this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (pNm1M)


Of course. Her opinion will be well-considered and extremely intelligent. Because, let's be honest, it's not like she's going to just pull it out of THAT ass.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (bYn+n)

333 > No no, you no wanna dat!

> Posted by: Aldo Cella

Found the 29-year-old.

Sadly, the Intarwebz tell me that the actor who played Aldo Cella died in 2013, at age 73.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:33 PM (WsmTT)

334 Nood.

Comey.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 15, 2019 02:33 PM (rBtIz)

335
the grey lady is nothing but a fine example of maderized, oxidized, corked, brett-laden vinegar...

Posted by: krusty at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (Psuwu)

336 Outtakes of a drunk Orson Welles for Paul Masson wine.

https://tinyurl.com/y6bw8lj8
Posted by: Dan Smoot's

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lol

Looks like the guy holding the bottle wants to use it as a weapon.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (RU4sa)

337 All I remember about wines could fill a thimble. I do vividly recall a wine my father used to drink, Zeller Schwarzcatz ("black cat") because it had a great illustration of a black cat with arched back and a snarling face on the label.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (H8QX8)

338 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (eXA4G)


A loooong time ago I went to a blind tasting of French and California wines, in recognition of that event. There were 50 wines in total. When the verdict was read, it was pretty much split. If you were from Europe, you preferred the French wines. If you were from the States, you went for CA.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (6ezlu)

339 Simplified short story about wine..

An English Wine Grower added some American vines from the East Coast to his green house, and infected Europe with phylloxera, an aphid from America that attacked the roots.

As each area of European wines began dying, from the roots, they brought in American rootstock, and spliced European grapes atop. No Texas or California involved.

Champaign was one of the last hit-and they boasted that their soil was too good to be infected. When phylloxera finally got to Champagne, the east coast roots were found to not grow there. After much concern, a French explorer [hiker] remembered that he saw some grape vines growing on a chalky bluff in Texas. Thus, at last, American grape stock that would grow in Champagne was found. So Champagne is all on Texas roots.

Phylloxera was unable to cross the Rockies. Italian immigrants started the California wine industry before "the blight". California had to re-plant all of its vines on east coast roots some 30 years after Europe did.

Australia did not get phylloxera for a long time. It has been determined that Australia was infected by a set of sister clone aphids. The blight in Australia is entirely monoclonal sisters who reproduce asexually.

There are a few places where vines still grow on their own roots: the Canary Islands, Argentina, the Guadalupe Valley in Mexico...

Posted by: Old Toby at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (tqaPy)

340 My niece and her husband have a small meadery in Idaho. Tasty drink.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (7EjX1)

341
Serve your "natural wine" along with "natural cheese".

Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)

Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (Uu+Jp)

We need Brie Larsen's take on this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (pNm1M)







Yeah, she'll get to the bottom of it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (eXA4G)

342 "With the world perched on the verge of multiple disasters..."
Name one, you pompous ass. Just one.
I'll wait.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (jWe5r)

343 ... wonderful story from welles about churchill on youtube:

"orson schmoozes about winston churchill"

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (Pg+x7)

344 "With the world perched on the verge of multiple disasters..."
Name one, you pompous ass. Just one.
I'll wait.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (jWe5r)

It's one of those lines about the endlessly imminent disaster re: Trump that leftists love to use and know will never invite questioning from their tribe.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:38 PM (H8QX8)

345 Rudy Giuliani @RudyGiuliani
25m
Witness Yuri Lutsenko, inheritor of Shokin's office:

Records proving Amb Yovanovitch perjured herself at least twice.

Doc's showing she was denying visas to witnesses who could prove Biden & Dem corruption.

Clear doc proof of money laundering by Burisma & Biden's.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 02:39 PM (BqBId)

346 "With the world perched on the verge of multiple disasters..."
Name one, you pompous ass. Just one.
I'll wait.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (jWe5r)


We were perched on the verge of one on November 6, 2016, but we averted it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (pNm1M)

347 Rudy Giuliani @RudyGiuliani
Dem's impeachment for innocent conduct is intended to obstruct the below investigations of Obama-era corruption:

Billions of laundered $
Billions, mostly US $, widely misused
Extortion
Bribery
DNC collusion w/ Ukraine to destroy candidate Trump

Much more to come.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (BqBId)

348 Much more to come.
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (BqBId)


How long until these public figures take the next step ?

I envision, and look forward to, folks bypassing the media entirely and going to well-produced podcasts. The cost would have to be worth it.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (bYn+n)

349 "Made from organically grown grapes."
Organic food definition: fertilized with animal shit.

Posted by: FlimFlammed at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (ZTDnL)

350 "349 "Made from organically grown grapes."
Organic food definition: fertilized with animal shit."

A food writer I read (in addition to CBD) cracked wise and wrote "'organic' is just crops raised like they were a generation ago. And that's basically right.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (iw59Q)

351 i think comey's spent his career avoiding responsibility.

Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (Pg+x7)

352 If instant vanilla pudding became rare and hard to come by, first the price would shoot up, and then that lot would be serving it in 5 star restaurants.

Posted by: Codfanglers at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (A0H36)

353
i think comey's spent his career avoiding responsibility.
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (Pg+x7)


Spoiler Alert - part of the trick to rising in any bureaucracy is avoiding responsibility. One Oh Shit cancels ten Atta' Boys. That is, truly, how shit works.

Say it with me - a Bureaucracy is not a Meritocracy. Say it.

To understand this is to understand why things work the way they work, and why they always work out this way.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:54 PM (bYn+n)

354 We drink wine from a box.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (yQpMk)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 12-15-2019

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Rosezella Battles Library, The King's College, New York City


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), old men, old ladies, old drunks, old goats, old poops, old geezers and geezettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which, admittedly, are probably Photoshopped, but that's not going to stop me from laughing at him.



Pic Note:

The King's College is a small Christian college in New York City. The library is appropriately modest:

The collection has roughly 16,000 volumes divided into two sections: Main Holdings and Reference. All of the volumes are related to our majors and all courses taught and represent a wide variety of subject areas. Students may borrow books in the Main Holdings, and may freely use in the library books in our Reference collection.

Now whoda thunk that there would be a Christian College in New York City? It's located in the financial district, not far from Wall Street. Talk about living in the belly of the beast.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®


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"I guess cancel culture is not a
new thing."



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Santa Claus: The Gritty Reboot

Well, actually, I don't know how 'gritty' they are, but a number of authors have reworked the traditional Christmas stories.

The first is Tony Bertauski's Claus series, the first of which is Claus: Legend of the Fat Man:

In the early 1800s, Nicholas Santa discovered an ancient race of elven.

Short, fat and hairy, they have lived peacefully on the North Pole since the Ice Age but Nicholas is quickly swept into the colony’s first and only fracture. The elven known as the Cold One has divided his people. His name is Jack. And Jack’s tired of hiding. Why should they live in a shrinking ice cap when humans occupy the rest of the world?

It’s just not fair.

There’s no stopping Jack from world domination until Nicholas Santa, the only human to enter the elven colony, joins helium-bladder reindeer, artificially-intelligent snowmen, and a merry band of big-footed elven to bring peace back to the North Pole.

And becomes a legend.

In subsequent books, the stories of Jack Frost, Frosty the Snowman, and Ebenezer Scrooge get reworked. All of these adbventures are availble in two collections, Claus Boxed: A Science Fiction Holiday Adventure and Claus Boxed 2: A Science Fiction Holiday Adventure

In Santa Claus: The King of the Elves, author B.C. Chase sends Santa on an epic adventure:

When Santa's true love, Linnea, is kidnapped, he and his loyal High Elf friends embark on an enthralling journey across the perilous lands of Euchaia in a desperate bid to bring her safely home, little realizing that much more is at stake than Linnea's life. By the end, the very survival of all High Elves is in jeopardy and Santa must make a fateful choice between his love for her and the destiny of the elves.

In this spellbinding adventure, internationally bestselling author B.C.CHASE taps the furthest reaches of his mesmerizing imagination to weave a suspenseful tale featuring seafaring dwarves, fiery dragons, cultured goblins, and flying elves that culminates in a battle of epic proportions.


Claus: The Untold Story of Kris Kringle is basically a biography of Santa Claus, that

tells the exciting, and unknown story of the man who embodies the Christmas spirit. In the pages of this book you will follow Kris's life as an infant, born to a royal family just as they were deposed, to his life as a young man venturing out into a larger world than he ever imagined. A world ruled by the sadistic governor who killed his family. A world where toys are illegal and where only Kris can bring joy to the children. All of this, set in a world overshadowed by a mysterious warlock who threatens death to any and all who trespass in the shadow of his mountain.

In this book you will learn how Kris managed to navigate all of these obstacles and emerge, changing the world in which we all live.

I like the blurb for Saint Nick: A Santa Claus Action Thriller, which sounds kind of like one of those cheesy action movie trailers from the 80s:

This Christmas, Santa Claus is still coming to town, but this time he's bringing a fat sack of justice with him.

Oh, yeah:

Army Ranger Nick Campos was never meant to be Santa Claus. He knows nothing about kids, he certainly isn't jolly, and he hasn't eaten a cookie in over a decade. But as Santa is dying of a heart attack, whether Nick wants them or not, Santa bestows his abilities upon him, and changes Nick's life forever.

A year later, Nick has found a way to use the abilities Santa passed along in a way that only a hardass Army Ranger could. To fight the bad guys. And he plans to bring new meaning to the classic line "he knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake."

However, there is one terrorist in particular that pops up on the radar that Nick is all too familiar with. Because he's the monster that killed Nick's closest friend a few years back. Can Nick use his newfound tools to stop an old enemy's plot to kill more innocent people? Or will Nick--the world's best new weapon in the fight against terror--fail to deliver against an evil that is much more prepared for him than Nick could have ever imagined?

Saint Nick is passing out presents and kicking ass, but this year, he's all out of presents.

Of course, we know that Santa Claus was bssed on a real guy, St. Nicholas, an early saint of the undivided church, who was a bit of an action hero himself. He allegedly confronted the arch-heretic Arius at the Ecumenical Council of Nicaea in 325 and popped him right in the puss. We know this true because they caught it on video.

He wound up in jail for doing this, but he made his point.

You can read about his life in The Gospel of Santa Claus by Wayne Van Der Wal, which

...follows the incredible story of Saint Nicholas, born in third century A.D., who overcomes childhood tragedy, feels called by God to take a vow of poverty, endures horrific persecution for his religious faith, and goes on to become one of the most beloved, generous, loving, and famous figures in human history. A meaningful, touching story to be shared with the entire family, Wayne Van Der Wal’s powerful debut historical novel will raise important questions, ignite hope, and reaffirm your faith in God and the human spirit.

The Kindle version is priced at a reasonable $4.99.

Late entry: A lurking moron, "Mortimer Bleak", has just published a small book of Christmas-themed poetry, Christmas Miracle: A Collection of Poems. The cover art is a good indication of the contents.

Finally I'm sure you've all have read, or at least heard of, The Gift of the Magi, the classic Christmas story by O. Henry. Well, now you can read a sequel by 'ette author Libby Malin entitled, appropriately enough, The Gift of the Magi Part Deux.


The Rise of Sorhed From 'Bored of the Rings'

“My spies tell me of black musters gathering in the East, in the dead Lands of Fordor. Hordes of foul narcs and trolls have multiplied and every day red-eyed wraiths skulk even unto the borders of the Sty. Soon there will be much terror in the land from the black hand of Sorhed.”

“Sorhed!” cried Frito. “But Sorhed is no more.”

“Don’t believe everything you hear from the heralds,” said Dildo gravely. “It had been thought that Sorhed was forever destroyed at the Battle of Brylopad, but it appears this was just wishful thinking. Actually he and his Nine Nozdrul slipped out of the mopping-up cleverly disguised as a troupe of gypsy acrobatic dancers. Escaping through the Ngaio Marsh, they pushed their way into the suburbs of Fordor, where...they have been renewing their strength ever since.”

“His Dark Carbuncle of Doom has swollen and soon will come to a head, covering the face of Lower Middle Earth with his ill humors. If we are to survive, the boil must be soundly lanced before Sorhed begins his own loathsome squeeze play.”



They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:

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"These aliens aren't so tough."

(h/t Pulp Librarian)



Moron Recommendations

A lurking moron recommended The Chain by Adrian McKinty:

"Hello."

"Rachel, I've kidnapped your daughter, Kylie. In order to get her back alive, you will pay a ransom of $25,000, and you will need to kidnap another child. If you contact the police, or otherwise notify any authority, I will kill Kylie. I will contact you again soon with further instructions.

"My son has been kidnapped and he will be killed unless you follow these and any further instructions to the letter. If my son dies, Kylie will die."

Paraphrased, this begins an interesting novel of terror and criminal plotting by a suburban housewife. The book is "The Chain" by Adrian McKinty. It follows Rachel through her denial, acceptance and follow through as she tries to keep the abduction from Kylie's school and her family.

Rachel learns that the kidnapping is in a sequence of abductions supported by a group that is known only as The Chain. Rachel is forced to select a kidnap victim, find a hideaway, and somehow collect enough money to pay the ransom, all within a short span of time.

That plot sounds completely diabolical.

Adrian McKinty is a long time author of many mystery fiction novels And while looking at McKinty's book, I also discovered this collection of stories that he edited, called Belfast Noir:

During the decades of the Troubles, Belfast was plagued with riots, bombings, and other violence, and armored vehicles patrolled the streets—a daily darkness that is reflected in the personality of the city. New York Times–bestselling author Lee Child calls it “the most noir place on earth.”

This collection of short stories in the “acclaimed noir series” provides not only a compelling read for fans of mystery and suspense and an opportunity to discover some new must-read authors, but a portrait of the moody, murderous history of Belfast (Publishers Weekly).

Featuring brand-new stories by Glenn Patterson, Eoin McNamee, Garbhan Downey, Lee Child, Alex Barclay, Brian McGilloway, Ian McDonald, Arlene Hunt, Ruth Dudley Edwards, Claire McGowan, Steve Cavanagh, Lucy Caldwell, Sam Millar, and Gerard Brennan.

Sounds like something you'd want to read when you're inside on a cold, gray, rainy day.

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291 I'll pimp for Steven Pressfield again.

Everything he's written is a page turner.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 11:56 AM (2DOZq)

OK, I accept the implicit Pressfield challenge here: I did a search for Pressfield in the Kindle store and the first book I was presented with was 36 Righteous Men: A Novel. Let's take a look at it:

When James Manning and Covina “Dewey” Duwai are called in to investigate a string of murders, their investigations take them from the headquarters of the Russian mafia in Brighton Beach to a sweltering maze of shops in Little Hong Kong, with scant leads on the killer. But when Manning and Dewey apprehend a woman—a disgraced but brilliant rabbinical scholar—fleeing one of the crime scenes, they’re brought face-to-face with the shocking truth: the Jewish legend of the hidden Righteous Men, the 36 who protect the world from destruction, is no legend at all. They are real, and they are being murdered.

As the bodies pile up and the world tilts further into chaos, Manning and Dewey must protect the last of the Righteous Men from a ruthless killer able to beguile his victims and command them against their will. Plunged into a deadly game of cat and mouse, the detectives find their arsenal of bullets and blades of little use against a foe who knows their every move.

Joining forces with the rabbinical scholar and a renowned anthropologist, Manning and Dewey set off on a perilous quest from New York to Gehenna in Israel to confront a murderer who won’t stop until he’s killed every one.

OK, that *does* sound like a book I'd like to read. However, for $12.99, I may wait to see if I can catch it if and when it goes on sale.

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103 I read...an author new to me, Karin Slaughter about a dyslectic detective named Will Trent and was fascinated by the character. Picked up the first book in the series, Triptych, and couldn't wait to read the next books in he series. Will's dyslexia is what makes him a phenomenal detective. His brain makes connections that others miss so he can read a crime scene like no other. Even minor characters have depth but Will is so flawed, so human,you can't help but keep pulling for him to succeed. Slaughter's dry sense of humor pervades the dialogue and keeps gruesome crime details from taking away from the story. I'm now on book six, so highly recommended.

Posted by: Sharon at December 01, 2019 09:59 AM (QzF6i)

The Kindle version of Triptych is $9.99.

One of the Amazon reviewers warned sensitive readers that this book is very descriptive of crime scenes, lots of cussing, and also because most of the victims are young, 14-16 years old.



Who Dis:

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Last week's 'who dis' was Paul Newman.

428 ''Paul Newman was very sexy in his prime.''

Was he ever! Those blue eyes...

Posted by: Tuna at December 08, 2019 01:54 PM (RueoN)

I have to tell you this story: Newman used to race cars in local competition, and there was a moron a few years back, I forget his nic, who competed on the same circuit. Said moron encountered Newman at the track on more than one occasion and said he had the most striking blue eyes he had ever seen. He went on: "...and you know what's weird? I'm a guy. I don't ever notice some other man's eyes."



Books By Morons

If you think progressive clown culture couldn't possibly get any worse, you obviously haven't read Appalling Stories 4: Even More Appalling Tales of Social Injustice, the new anthology featuring stories by Dave Dubrow, Ray Zacek, Paul Hair, Adam Howe and more. They slay the left's sacred cows and make burgers from the carcasses.

You'll find tales of hilarious Hollywood degeneracy, disturbing dystopias, Green New Deals gone black, old-school treasure-hunting, and much more. Triggering, microaggressions, macroaggressions, punching down, punching up, punching Antifa: like the old spaghetti sauce commercial says, it's in there.

From the forward by Denise McAllister:

Some of us who have been watching our culture slouching toward Gomorrah aren’t surprised to see it finally arrive within the gates. Even so, we feel the pinpricks of shock run up our spines and wonder how much further we can go down the rabbit hole of cultural and political decline. Appalling Stories 4 takes those musings and runs with them, driving us all toward dark conclusions that—while extreme—make us think. Exploring the absurd in fantasy often reveals the depths of absurdity in reality. This is what these stories do. They’re a wake-up call to a culture on the brink, a society tipping the balance of rationality and plunging into the insanity of a worldview driven by social justice warriors hell-bent on upending Western civilization.

With woke progressivism corroding every American cultural institution, probably the most subversive thing you can do is laugh at it, and this book will help. Because the devil is a proud spirit who cannot endure to be mocked.

And, as always, if any of you morons are interested in reading and providing Amazon reviews of this or any of the books in the Appalling Stories series, Dave would be more than happy to send out copies free of charge. Just drop him an email at davedauthor atsign gmail dot com.

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'Ette author right wing yankee tells me that has just published "a sweet regency romance, more likely to appeal to the 'ettes, and the perfect little story for when you want a break from putting up the tree and baking mountains of cookies."

Agnes Rawlins would never dream of showing a melancholy face to her brother's guests. She may be a spinster, and treated little better than any common housekeeper, but she is responsible for bringing Christmas cheer into the dark and rambling Blackheath Manor, and she does not shirk her duty, even when she has little reason to celebrate.

William Marlowe, Viscount Claridge, has reluctantly accepted an invitation to spend the Christmas season at Blackheath. It's not his first choice- how anyone could wish to spend time in the gloomy manor house is beyond him- but when he meets the kind and gentle lady of the house, he find that Christmas at Blackheath might not be so bad after all.

Christmas at Blackheath is short, sweet, and the Kindle version is 99 cents.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 It was a monstrous constellation of unnatural light, like a glutted swarm of corpse-fed fireflies dancing hellish sarabands over an accursed marsh; and its colour was that same nameless intrusion which Ammi had come to recognise and dread.

-- H.P. Lovecraft (of course), from "The Colour Out of Space"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (vhcul)

2 !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (arJlL)

3 Oneth?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (HaL55)

4 Shazbot! But I got a Third! two mornings in a row.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (HaL55)

5 Hiya JT! Eaten any good books?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:02 AM (vhcul)

6 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:02 AM (7EjX1)

7 BOOKEN MORGEN HORDEN

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 09:02 AM (G546f)

8 For those who like the old pulp fiction stories (hi Eris) the Kindle Daily Deals has a couple. The Complete tales of Jules De Grandin, Volume 1 and volume 5 by Seaburg Quinn. They are $1.99 each. The Grandin stories were apparently hugely popular whenever they appeared, which was frequently, from the 1920s to the 1950s. I'm not familiar with the tales but willing to risk four bucks to find out.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (7EjX1)

9 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

10
It's Jane Asher. She was Paul McCartney's girlfriend. She starred in Alfie and Brideshead Revisited.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (mKLFv)

11
There's no greater gift a parent can give a child than a house full of books.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (7rVsF)

12 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (1CjJc)

13

Almost forgot. Asher's brother was Peter Asher of Peter and Gordon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (mKLFv)

14 The inventor of the Bass-O-Matic™ was ostercized.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (m45I2)

15 Hiya Eris !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (arJlL)

16 Me wike Lieberry!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (IttZ7)

17 Those pants are fine. We would wear them to a barbeque in the Queen's back yard.

Posted by: Tweedledee and Tweedledum at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (Tnijr)

18 12 Book nerds!
Posted by: Ogre at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (1CjJc)
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*gives Ogre a fake cream pie with a picture of Helen Thomas at the bottom*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (vhcul)

19 "Corpse-fed fireflies" ? And I used to like them...

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (zr5Kq)

20 Whoever received the most votes would be banished from the city for up to a decade.

It's not who votes, it's who counts the shards.

Posted by: J. Stalinokopolis at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (DMUuz)

21 Rick Random? I've got a bud who does a rock-a-billy show....Vic Velvet.

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (X/Pw5)

22 I read the latest installments in Chris Nutall's Learning Experiences series about a war between eager creative humans and immensely powerful ancient civilizations determined to maintain the status quo by wiping out the upstart humans. Worth checking out.

I also started "Famous Men of Ancient Times" by Samuel Griswold Goodrich, an old, inexpensive, yet very readable collection of biographies of historical figures of note. The section on Muhammad was particularly interesting.

I still have a big backlog of books from the cyber Monday sale, and I picked up Robert Kroese's Schrodinger's Gat on a recommendation from a moron last week.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good read!

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (FXjhj)

23 It takes a few clicks but you can get into preferences in your Kindle Unlimited account and see authors you are following. It will also link to their most current release.

Posted by: Mandela Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (JFO2v)

24 There's no greater gift a parent can give a child than a house full of books.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (7rVsF)

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I don't know. A love of reading is a better gift. I despair when I think of how I'm going to deal with my father's book collection.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)

25 Currently reading Churchill's A History of the English-Speaking Peoples ( The Birth of Britain). It's a bit of a slog in parts but on the whole, pretty interesting. It takes a while to get used to his writing style but the old guy was a pretty good storyteller. One thing that really impresses is what a tribulation life must have been in the Middle Ages.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (EgshT)

26 RE: Santa Claus novels


Confidence - a limerick

The story came to me in a dream
It's a North Polean kidnapping scheme
It seems Old Saint Nick
Is an arrogant prick
But he's suffers from low elf-esteem

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:15 AM (m45I2)

27 I read Winter Grave by Helene Tursten, trans. from the Swedish by Marlaine Delargy. This is the second in the Embla Nystrom Investigation series and the second mystery series by Tursten. In this, Embla must solve the case of two missing children. Suspenseful and well-written, but some SJW BS scattered throughout the book.

Recommended here several times, I read Red Metal by Mark Greaney and LTC H. Ripley Rawlings IV, USMC. This is an action-packed page turner as Russians attack through Poland to Stuttgart, Germany on Christmas day; but this is just a diversion for an attack in Africa to secure a rich rare-earth minerals mine in Kenya. Not only an exciting story, but one learns about new weapons systems, new capabilities, and new tactics.

Posted by: Zoltan at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (8jlwn)

28 Those horned aliens on the book cover are not wearing pants.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (NqQAS)

29 I may have an ambitious reading project coming up. No. 1 Son is an extreme Tolkien nerd*. He's read the big ones, and the Silmarillon, and the Children of Chtulu or whatever it's called, and he's now wandering through just about the last published work he could find.

Now he wants to read Beowulf. I told him to read the Seamus Haney translation. He remembers me reading it on a camping trip. He asked if Tolkien had translated Beowulf. I thought he might have for his own amusement, but it turned out that a Tolkien translation from the 1920s was published in 2014.

The reviews call it a lousy translation but a good book. That sounds good. I think you're allowed to take a few liberties with the Beowulf story.

Anyway, the deal is that when we are finished with out current readings No. 1 Son and I will each read the Haney and then the Tolkien and compare notes.


*(he has that stylized JRRT logo tattooed on his bicep)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:17 AM (gd9RK)

30 Ok, on a serious note, I know some 'rons and 'ettes have lost loved ones this year (I lost my mother in May) and as we approach the first Christmas without them, our joy in this season is tempered with our feelings of loss.
A person from our church gave us a set of booklets to help navigate through this time. Jewells, I think you lost a parent this year?

"Journeying Through Grief" is a series of 4 booklets, meant to be read at different times through the first year after a loved one dies. The series is written by a pastor who is also a psychologist. He also has lived the journey in that he lost his own wife to cancer.

One of the things that we noticed after my mother died was that people are super nice to you for a week or two and then they move on, and you can't yet, you're still in the middle of your grief. I compared the experience to getting a load-bearing wall of my life knocked down and having to deal with the aftermath.

These booklets have helped me in my journey, and I hope they will help some of you too. Just keep a box of Kleenex handy.

https://tinyurl.com/voor4sc

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 09:18 AM (IttZ7)

31 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx, the truly American Marxist

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 09:18 AM (HaL55)

32 Those horned aliens on the book cover are not wearing pants.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (NqQAS)

skirts and earrings....hmmm

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 09:18 AM (X/Pw5)

33 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants.....Fred Mertz would be proud.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (Z+IKu)

34 I read a really good book by Ann Patchett called "The Dutch House", about a brother and sister who grow up in an almost oppressively palatial mansion bought by their father for his first wife. She runs away, and in a few years the father marries a pretty woman with two daughters and an eye for the main chance. She slowly squeezes out the brother and sister, eventually taking over the house and business.

It's like a modern-day fairy tale of abandonment with a wicked step-mother. Danny and Maeve move on with school and careers but remain almost chained to the house and their past.

The story covers decades and reveals the story behind every character. I loved the tight bond between the siblings.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (vhcul)

35 Hello, readists!

ok, so what I have been reading, and it is surprisingly entertaining, is the Library of Congress records of the Dachau War Crimes tribunals, from 1946. Fifteen volumes of scanned microfiche. i never paid attention to the Tribunals much before, so i am learning a lot. There were three basic levels, for the US - the international ones (Nuremburg, etc.), the US Military ones, and then the US Army ones, like Dachau. The Dachau trials were just held in the city, didn't have anything to do with the concentration camp there.

anyway, its all part of the research for the book on my grandfather.

Happy reading, all!

Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (iUjXP)

36 Oh, hey everyone.

Had drill last week. Here's the writing update:

Vampires of Michigan is now in the process of being edited. Normally I do a single hard-copy edit, but this MS needs extra work due to the protracted nature of its composition. Lots of continuity errors because my conception of certain items changed along the way.

This means corrections actually entail some significant re-writes.

After that, I'll send it to my proof-readers and then do a second hard-copy edit to fix smaller errors.

Publication schedule is therefore looking like sometime in January. I'm taking time off next week so that should speed things up.

Next up is Battle Officer Wolf Book 2 and then maybe a break. I'm trying to do a book a year, which seems like a reasonable pace.

Thanks for everyone whose bought my books and remember they make great Christmas presents!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:20 AM (cfSRQ)

37 Okay....

Last coupla weeks, I read L.A. Confidential by James Ellroy, I'd read it a long time ago when it first came out....well before the movie. I still found it enjoyable.

Then, while watching the movie Jackie Brown, I experienced an Elmore Leonard jones, and I read Be Cool.

I'm finishing up Badasses - The Legend of Snake, Foo, Dr. Death and John Madden's Oakland Raiders.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:21 AM (arJlL)

38 That photo of Nads...tell me it's photoshopped!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (vhcul)

39 Now he wants to read Beowulf. I told him to read
the Seamus Haney translation. He remembers me reading it on a camping
trip. He asked if Tolkien had translated Beowulf. I thought he might
have for his own amusement, but it turned out that a Tolkien translation
from the 1920s was published in 2014.



The reviews call it a lousy translation but a good book. That
sounds good. I think you're allowed to take a few liberties with the
Beowulf story.



Anyway, the deal is that when we are finished with out current
readings No. 1 Son and I will each read the Haney and then the Tolkien
and compare notes.





*(he has that stylized JRRT logo tattooed on his bicep)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:17 AM (gd9RK)

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Battle Officer Wolf is based on the Seamus Haney translation. I used the annotated version.

My wife bought it for her Tolkien class at Michigan State.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)

40 That Nadler pic might be photoshopped but it's not far from the truth.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:23 AM (dUJdY)

41 anyway, its all part of the research for the book on my grandfather.

Happy reading, all!
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (iUjXP)


Can you reveal more here ? Was your grandfather a POW or take part in the tribunals ?

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:23 AM (zr5Kq)

42 Jewells, I think you lost a parent this year?

Yes, January 5 so this is my first Christmas without her and I find myself thinking of her constantly. Driving down a road yesterday I remember taking her on a drive on that very street about 3 Springs ago. She was like a child, so delighted to see the daffodils, crocus and redbud trees blooming.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:26 AM (dUJdY)

43 Re: Santa Claus novels


Look For The Union Label - a limerick

In a novel by Henry C. Fielding
About bicycle decoration and gilding
They called for a strike
Said, "We'll build no more bikes!"
You could say, "Elves has left the building!"

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:26 AM (m45I2)

44 My question: Is the photo in the "these pants" link doctored or real? Seems to me it could go either way. It's getting harder to tell what is silly exaggeration from reality as far as the Dims are concerned.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:26 AM (7EjX1)

45 Back in the days (when America was already great), we had the Golden Ream Contest for our professors. You voted with pennies. The one with the most pennies got the Golden Ream Award.

He got his revenge served cold, when the report cards came out marked "F".

Survival of the fittest.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at December 15, 2019 09:29 AM (EMi53)

46 Book Notes: I'm currently working my way through LotR at a leisurely pace. Last night arrived at the House of Tom Bombadil. I hope Amazon makes this is a massive TV miniseries, with one episode per chapter. It would be brilliant.

Supposedly the Tolkien Estate has set strict limits on what they can do. So there won't be any stupid Peter Jackson dwarf/elf love affair nonsense.

For a diversion, I picked up The Hidden Origins of Islam, which is the densest book I've ever read. Its an anthology and some of the essays are pretty much incomprehensible to me. One last night had quotations in Arabic with footnotes that included the German translation.

Interesting that a lot of scholarship into Islam's origins comes from Germany. I think my new joke is that I prefer to Koran in the original German.

Anyhow, there are some less intense essays and they bring out the fact that Islam's origins are really obscure. One takeaway quote is that no other world religion is so self-referential as Islam. There are not only no contemporary Arabic accounts of Mohammed, there no accounts from anyone else.

This is why some scholars are starting to wonder if he even existed.

Anyhow, not a book for the faint of heart. Robert Spencer is a bit more accessible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:29 AM (cfSRQ)

47 My question: Is the photo in the "these pants" link doctored or real?

I sincerely hope so, and if not, its STILL a great pic !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:29 AM (arJlL)

48 /sox

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 09:30 AM (JFO2v)

49 Comey on Fox News Sunday plays Sgt. Schultz, I am only The FBI Director and didn't really know the details.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (OFz7E)

50 I finally finished "The Spanish Civil War," by Stanley Payne. This is an academic history, not a popular history, & it was a slog. A short book but it took me weeks to read it. Don't look for any photos or eyewitness accounts. We're talking DRY reading.

Here are a few takeaways:

1) the best thing that can be said for Franco is that the other side started the mass executions, & they were well & truly under way before Franco even took the field.

2) the worst thing that can be said about Franco is that he CONTINUED the mass executions for appx a year & a half AFTER the fighting had stopped.

3) the grand judicial murder score was Republicans appx 60000, & Nationalists appx 110000-- including appx 25000 AFTER the Republican govt had fled into exile, & the fighting had stopped.

4) the civil war was so bitter that prisoner exchanges were out of the question.

5) Franco was an excellent logistician & force preserver, but a mediocre strategist at best. Nonetheless, his plodding, cautious strategy served his side well given all the circumstances under which he labored.

6) The Republicans made the same mistake as the Confederacy, imo. They tried to repeatedly to launch offensive campaigns when they were fighting an enemy with more resources.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (Cssks)

51 The story covers decades and reveals the story behind every character. I loved the tight bond between the siblings.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (vhcul)

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I think V.C. Andrews had a book about tightly-bonded siblings in the late 80s. Flowers for Algernon in the Attic or something.

All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)

52 I can't believe I just bought a book titled "A Santa Claus Action Thriller." But I did, and it looks good.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (oW/8k)

53 Comey says The FBI is an honesty, apolitical organization.

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (OFz7E)

54 All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.

Mom locks a brother a sister up for years, they eventually have sex. The end.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (dUJdY)

55 Started a new book group read "At Swim Two Boys" by Jamie O'Neill. First of all, this was the choice of one of the butt spelunkers in the group because it has a homo component. After much eye rolling I thought I'd give it a chance because I'm a big Paul Bowles fan, for example, but it damn sight better be well written or I'd drop it like a Kennedy who finds a cum dumpster inconvenient. Welp it's very well written; Joycean even. So much so that he uses weird mick made up archaic words that quickly made me do a WTF online search and SHAZAM came upon O'Neill's site where he has a section by section glossary. This is a mixed blessing because on one hand you know what everything means but going back and forth isn't exactly an ideal way to read for enjoyment, even when enjoyment involves using your noggin. Anyway everything is still setup of WW1 era Dublin where the micks are chafing over the Brits but are still pissed off at the fucking Huns, most of the normal semi sober ones at least. And one of the main characters is the son of a widower shopkeeper who's trying to move up in the world. The kid's already had a weird encounter with a Catholic brother teaching the school band, and nothing screams homo like that amirite? Anyway he's buds with the son of the town drunk who seems like he's already well versed with the love that shall not be named so we'll see. There are some secondary characters which I'm not sure how they figure in the plot but that's why we forge ahead.

The library had very few copies of this which was strange considering it was published in 2001 and I thought all things homo would be popular with the progs who run lieberries into the path to perdition. Maybe they just want homo porn.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 09:36 AM (y7DUB)

56 I think V.C. Andrews had a book about tightly-bonded siblings in the late 80s. Flowers for Algernon in the Attic or something.

All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)
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It wasn't that kind of bond, ya freak!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:36 AM (vhcul)

57 6) The Republicans made the same mistake as the
Confederacy, imo. They tried to repeatedly to launch offensive
campaigns when they were fighting an enemy with more resources.





Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (Cssks)

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The Republic had more resources at the beginning and squandered them.

I disagree that Payne is dry. I found it quick going - finished it in a couple of weeks, though I admit I'm a bit more obsessive about these things.

Still, he's a lot better than Hugh Thomas, which tries to be more accessible but is long-winded, obscure and of course badly biased.

Regarding executions, part of the problem was that there was a lot of vengeance in the air. Payback is a bitch, etc. I think Payne notes that Franco won the bodybag sweepstakes because he won the war.

If he had lost, the Republic would definitely have outpaced his total and their killing would have gone on until their government collapsed, just like everywhere else the left takes power.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)

58 VC Andrews is still writing books today, long after her death.

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 09:38 AM (G546f)

59 Question for the Horde: I've been accepted as a vendor for a homeschooling conference in KC in April, and I'd like to reprint a new public domain title, preferably from the Victorian or Edwardian era, that will appeal to homeschooling families... maybe a good history or literature text from that era which has been overlooked or forgotten. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Secret Square at December 15, 2019 09:38 AM (9WuX0)

60 I'm as honest as the day is long. In Antarctica. In June.

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 15, 2019 09:40 AM (EgshT)

61

Horny Scotsmen attempting to switch from sheep to busty bints but gay joker intervenes.....It's a tense deep seated hatred all wrapped up in a 10cent masterpiece.

Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 09:40 AM (5IHGB)

62 Mom locks a brother a sister up for years, they eventually have sex. The end.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (dUJdY)

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Well yes, I know that NOW, but at the time it was kind of funny how evasive they were. Whispered conversations that stopped when guys butted in.

Ah the joys of innocent youth.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:40 AM (cfSRQ)

63 I don't know. A love of reading is a better gift. I despair when I think of how I'm going to deal with my father's book collection.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)

I get your point and I understand. It is also difficult to move your own collection. There is the physical burden of packing, then the realization and sadness that you cannot take them all with you.

But

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 15, 2019 09:41 AM (OFz7E)

64 I watched the movie Timeline (which sucked) and read in the IMDb trivia that Crichton so disliked the movie adaptation that he refused to allow any other of his books to be made into movies. So I read the book which was OK but not great. The movie is considerably different and I can't help but wonder who thought the changes improved the story. They changed the sex of a character from girl power in the book to a guy. They changed relationships making one character the father of another. They ignored a major plot element, the difficulty with language, and niced the bad billionaire up. It would be interesting to hear the rationale for those changes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 09:42 AM (+y/Ru)

65 24 AHL & Your Holiness

My kids are SOL, then, because I return all MY books to the library. I helped a college professor move his books to a new house once. When we got done (group of students), it appeared to me there would be no room left for furniture-- & it was a big house, too.

I decided I would never live like that.

The most impoverished man I ever knew (not the professor) got in trouble with the IRS-- (amazingly, since he was chronically unemployed). One day, the IRS showed up at his hovel with a truck & hauled away all his books.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

66 ...weave a suspenseful tale featuring seafaring dwarves, fiery dragons, cultured goblins, and flying elves that culminates in a battle of epic proportions.

*******

I LOL'ed.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (m45I2)

67 38 That photo of Nads...tell me it's photoshopped!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (vhcul)


Best guess: it's fake but accurate.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 09:44 AM (zGtXn)

68 First off: Tolkein's Beowulf. I liked both his version and Heeney's translation. Tolkein also includes his essay "The Monster and the Critics" which is worth the price of the book, and a prose version "Sellic Spell" (="fairy tale").

But they both tell the same story. It's not like JRRT threw in a car chase or something.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 09:44 AM (urZJh)

69 I continue with the LOTR audio and it is turning out to be a wonderful adjunct to reading. Properly done, these audio versions can really add to the enjoyment of favorite books.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:45 AM (7EjX1)

70 Rosezella Battles Library

I'm rooting for the Library!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 15, 2019 09:46 AM (Ndje9)

71 9 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

No one has any suggestions?

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)

72 My kids are SOL, then, because I return all MY books
to the library. I helped a college professor move his books to a new
house once. When we got done (group of students), it appeared to me
there would be no room left for furniture-- it was a big house,
too.



I decided I would never live like that.



The most impoverished man I ever knew (not the professor) got in
trouble with the IRS-- (amazingly, since he was chronically unemployed).
One day, the IRS showed up at his hovel with a truck hauled away
all his books.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

---
In our old house, we were living the Book Moron lifestyle with bookshelves along just about every wall.

And it was just too much. So we started going through everything and while I held onto much of my collection, I did part with a number of books I didn't like and wouldn't read again but couldn't bear to discard.

Since then we've had to clean out her parents' house, and that taught me a lot about making it easy for the next generation. I'm very discerning about what books I buy and whether they are worthy of adding to my library.

As I noted here previously, a couple of years ago I did a major culling of the collection, getting rid of all the military history/weapons books that I knew had bogus data or outdated information. That opened up a lot of space. (I did keep a few that had sentimental value, like "Weapons and Warfare of the 20th Century" which was gift from my grandmother.)

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

73 Based on last week's recommendation, I bought M.F. Thomas - Arcade. Interesting premise re alien-caused EMP. Fast reading, enjoyable. Liked it enough that I ordered another of his - A Sickness in Time. I suspect I'll blast through it this week.
Yes, Moron Authors, this is a good promotion site.

Posted by: RI Red at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cM3jS)

74 I'm rooting for the Library!


******


I know not what course other Men may take, but as for me, give me Library. Or give me desk!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:49 AM (m45I2)

75 The greatest gritty Santa story is the unending strife between Bun-bun and Santa, and the sub story of the Black Ops Elves, ending up with the book Holiday Wars.
All by Pete Abrams in Sluggy Freelance

Which is apparently all published hardcopy now.

*sigh* So much to read and enjoy, so little time

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 09:49 AM (1glZx)

76 In A People's Tragedy the Rooski civil war is over and, at the risk of being a spoiler, the reds won. The white army never stood a chance because they were too dedicated to the old ways which the masses did not want even though they knew they were fucked by the reds. An old tsarist General, Brusilov, was responsible for rooting the whites out of Crimea, their last stronghold, because he believed in Russian unity. Unfortunately the cocksuckers at the top used his name to promise amnesty to all the holdouts and then murdered every damn one of 'em. Needless to say the old General was depressed at how he'd been used and didn't live much longer.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (y7DUB)

77 Ah, yes, I remember when every high school girl had a copy of _Flowers in the Attic_ (wasn't that the title? Too lazy to check) in her bookbag.

The library had it, and the cover looked like a horror story, so I tried to read it. Gave up after maybe a chapter.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (urZJh)

78 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)




Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?

I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)

79 What? No Hannukah books? Going to see my grandkids next week. Need children's book recommendations about Hannukah.

Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (QzF6i)

80 Good Sunday morning, horde!

This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!

I haven't read much this week, but am still listening to Dog of the South on my commute. Funny stuff.

And Mr. April wanted to rearrange the library after we got a new rug for it, so I'm pleased with that. Life is good.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (OX9vb)

81 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami

Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)

82 Secret Square, what a fascinating question!
I'd be interested in what you find

here's a general primary resource collection on Victorian England

https://www.bl.uk/victorian-britain

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (G546f)

83 No one has any suggestions?

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)

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Lemony Snicket was funny. Maybe too young though, although adults get a lot out of it.

Really depends on the kid. By the time I was 13 I had read The Gathering Storm and A Bridge Too Far and was deep into the Bantam War Books (Fly for Your Life, Reach for the Sky, Brazen Chariots, etc.).

At 14 I got The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers and loved it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (cfSRQ)

84 It's not like JRRT threw in a car chase or something.
----

Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,

Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing

Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)

85 It's not like JRRT threw in a car chase or something.

Ummmm.....Those are my initials.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (arJlL)

86 Speaking of Christmas, Tolkien geeks might groove to The Father Christmas Letters, which are fun and give a glimpse into Tolkien's family life.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)

87 Pish. You should do the original.

Da com of more, under mistleothum

Grendel gongan, goddes yrres baer

In Charger Fordeth, med Hurst on Flur

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (gd9RK)

88 Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)

With a pistol grip four on the floor and mags

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (cknjq)

89 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)



Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?

I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)


Classics are always good, no ? American, English, French, Greek....Unless she already read them.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (zr5Kq)

90 Cap'n Hate

I read that. It's highly regarded by critics.

57 ALH

I don't disagree with anything you posted there very much.

As for the Republic having more resources at the start: on paper. But Franco had the only battle-tested, professional troops-- from Spanish Morocco.

Franco would've lost before the war started if the Republicans could've thwarted his tiny airlift. But that was beyond Republican capabilities.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (Cssks)

91 Good morning, all - busy this week with getting ready for Christmas, and sorting out the garage, which was full of stuff that needed to be gone. Sold some on Nextdoor, the rest to Goodwill. We had thought to do a market on Saturday in New Braunfels, but then it turned out that the manager of it didn't think there would be many customers for it, and the thought of packing the Montero with the tables, the pavilion, the display stuff and the merchandise, hauling it all into the venue, setting up ... and then sitting there all way, waiting for customers ... did not appeal in the least. Our last market this season will be at the Court Street Coffee in Seguin, this Thursday. There'll be a dozen other indy authors there, from 4-8 PM, if anyone in the Horde wants to stop in and check them out! We'll have the print version of the first two Luna City compilations available - and they are finally up at my Amazon author page. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989782344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i8

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (xnmPy)

92 Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?

I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)

Need it for a Christmas present but won't see her until a few days after Christmas. So not too pressing...or you can e-mail it to me at moronettetami at gmail.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (cF8AT)

93 Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,



Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing



Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)

---
Hey, you're getting dangerously close to my racket.

Vito and the boys would like to have a word with you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)

94 I guess the Iliad and the Odyssey are not really a mystery or too humorous...

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:57 AM (zr5Kq)

95 Tolle Lege
Now I promise to follow my advice and stop at the used book store today

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (ZCEU2)

96

Looks like Kings College has Ostracized the Christian Students and now it's a PLAY_STATION club cum Tesla recharging station. tha'ts the way the shards crumble..POT is always a problem in Greece.

I imagine Hillary is often SHARD FACED & BAKED !!?

Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (5IHGB)

97 "These aliens aren't so tough."


They're horny little devils though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (yQpMk)

98 In the last book of Herodotus, even though Xerxes scurried back to Persia in defeat, his troops are still determined to defeat the Greeks so I guess the conflicts will continue until the very end.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 09:59 AM (y7DUB)

99 Speaking of Christmas, Tolkien geeks might groove to The Father Christmas Letters, which are fun and give a glimpse into Tolkien's family life.


There was an exhibit of Tolkieana in NYC a couple of springs ago (or was it last spring?) and one of the Father Christmas letters was the highlight of it for me.

Of course, I wondered when the Tolkien spawn noticed that Father Christmas had the same handwriting and drawing style of Father Tolkien, but it was still wonderful.

Book Morons then told me that they've been published, but I've only read the one that was at the exhibit. "We've had terrible trouble with goblins this year. We have goblins the way you have rats and..."

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:59 AM (gd9RK)

100 Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)

Lemony Snicket was funny. Maybe too young though, although adults get a lot out of it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Thanks! I'll check these out.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:59 AM (cF8AT)

101 Tami,let me ask KTY when she wakes up

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:00 AM (G546f)

102 The list of, shall we say, "revisionist" Santa stories leaves out the original and greatest: The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus, by L. Frank (Wizard of Oz) Baum.

It's good, and very weird. Baum shifts Claus into a non-religious fantasy context. He gets his powers from some vaguely pagan (and kind of Masonic-sounding) dudes like the Master Woodman of the World.

If you remember the old Rankin-Bass "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" TV special, they cribbed a LOT from Baum. Don't know if they credited him or not.

Now to dive into some quasi-serious analysis: I'm not sure what I think about the de-Christianizing of St. Nicholas which has been going on since Clement Moore made him a jolly old elf instead of an Arian-punching bishop.

As a kid in a non-religious household I thought it was swell, of course. Santa as a fantasy character instead of a boring old dead Christian was a lot more fun. Plus it does dodge the question of why a saint is flying around in a reindeer sleigh each year.

As an adult I'm more ambivalent -- which is odd because I'm still not a believer. I love the secular Santa tradition, one of the few remaining bits of actual American shared culture. (Which is why the usual suspects keep trying to ban him, of course.)

And yet there's more to life than candy. A "Messiah" concert means something, too.

Not sure where I'm going with this. Except that it's easy to de-sanctify something than to re-sanctify it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:01 AM (urZJh)

103 Jane Asher, why yes I would,then Marianne Faithful for afters.
Read to them and weep. Mmmmmm aaaaaahhh...and we all lived happily ever after,before and during.

Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 10:01 AM (5IHGB)

104 I know not what course other Men may take, but as for me, give me Library. Or give me desk!
Posted by: Muldoon

stealing this

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:02 AM (G546f)

105 Don't see 1 guess on the mystery woman, looks very familiar but can't place her yet

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:02 AM (ZCEU2)

106 Jane Asher was really the only ginger I can recall from the 60s

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:02 AM (U7k5w)

107 Saint Nick was a hero for punching Arius (who stated JC was the son of God, not God the Son) ... or Nick was Antifa, if Arius was (more) correct.

Standing against tradition makes one a "heretic". By that definition, Jesus was a heretic ... "you have made the Word of God of none effect by your traditions".

Interesting Britannica blurb on that Council of Nicea.

"The council condemned Arius and, with reluctance on the part of some, incorporated the nonscriptural word homoousios ("of one substance") into a creed to signify the absolute equality of the Son with the Father. The emperor then exiled Arius, an act that, while manifesting a solidarity of church and state, underscored the importance of secular patronage in ecclesiastical affairs."

Sure, just change the text, if you don't like what it actually says. It's just a "living document". They burned Arius' books as well.


Long live the disrupters of tradition (Trump, grand disrupter). Solidarity of church and state? Yet our founders saw the problem of such "solidarity", with Europe's kings and popes at war. (maybe the popes had less such solidarity than the kings then, idk ... but Commie Pope has solidarity with some evil globalists).


Council of Nicea was perhaps the foundation of the Institutional Church and Centralized Control, obey men or be ostracized. Luther put a dent in it, but Protestantism quickly became mostly institutional as well.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (Cus5s)

108 More and more of my reading tends toward history and my hobbies. That lead me to re-read "Sixguns by Keith", especially the chapters on long range revolver shooting and cartridge reloading. Some of the information is outdated but less than you might think. Elmer Keith had an interesting writing style and really knew his firearms. He was a moving force behind the development of the 357, 41, and 44 magnum cartridges.

I have a number of classic books on the development and use of various guns. I should thumb through them more often as I enjoy the topic.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (7EjX1)

109 Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

No one has any suggestions?

Hmm...been a while since I've needed books for 13-year-olds, let me think on it.

A good mystery might be The Secret Place by Tana French. It's not a YA novel, but it's about a murder at a boarding school in Dublin. I found it fascinating, but I thought the characters (mostly high school students) would annoy a lot of adults.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (OX9vb)

110 Cap'n Hate

I read that. It's highly regarded by critics.


Thanks for saying that. Am I correct in assuming you didn't enjoy it? It's a very long book so that's a lot of time to invest in a disappointment. If I feel that way I won't be shy about expressing my displeasure.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (y7DUB)

111 Thanks vmom!

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 10:05 AM (cF8AT)

112 Tolle Lege
Now I promise to follow my advice and stop at the used book store today
Posted by: Skip

Where's it at, Skip ?

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (arJlL)

113 I don't disagree with anything you posted there very much.



As for the Republic having more resources at the start: on paper.
But Franco had the only battle-tested, professional troops-- from
Spanish Morocco.



Franco would've lost before the war started if the Republicans
could've thwarted his tiny airlift. But that was beyond Republican
capabilities.





Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (Cssks)

---
The Republic's problem was that they decided revolution was more important than victory. Much of their strength was frittered away in pie-in-the-sky schemes to collectivize everything.

The Republic had:

1. More people
2. More territory
3. International recognition
4. National gold reserves
5. All the arms factories and industrial centers

The foreign aid was roughly equal but Franco had better unity of command, which helped tremendously.

I'm also surprised you left out what Payne considered to be a very important element: morale.

Time and again Nationalist troops proved that they were willing to fight to the death. They'd dig in around a church or cathedral and fight to the bitter end with a prayer on their lips. The defense of the Alcazar was without any equivalent on the Republican side.

Franco gets beaten up for diverting his attack from Madrid to Toledo but he understood that heroic myth was a powerful force in war and by saving the garrison he created one.

In a similar vein, Franco kept the old army largely intact and used his authority to bolster conscripts with battalions of more elite units like the Carlists or Navarrinos.

The Republic trashed the old army and tried to create a new one on the fly based on the Soviet model. This allowed them to field more troops, but only the International Brigades had any staying power and the command structure remained a mess.

Plus: the May Days.

I'm looking forward to reading Payne's biography of Franco, but that my have to wait until spring as I'm in full-on Tolkien/Beowulf mode.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (cfSRQ)

114 107 Saint Nick was a hero for punching Arius (who stated JC was the son of God, not God the Son) ... or Nick was Antifa, if Arius was (more) correct

I can confirm that I'm not the one.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (377Zs)

115 I see, got it now.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (ZCEU2)

116 71 ... "I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

No one has any suggestions?"

Tami, I was never a girl and 13 years old was a loooong time ago. Pure guess: would something like Jane Austen work or is the humor too subtle for that age? Maybe Georgette Heyer?

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:09 AM (7EjX1)

117 TAMI

just remembered a book KTY loved just a few years ago:

13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear by Walter Moers

it's whimsical, illustrated, and appeals to a wide range of ages

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:09 AM (G546f)

118 Now to dive into some quasi-serious analysis: I'm not sure what I think about the de-Christianizing of St. Nicholas which has been going on since Clement Moore made him a jolly old elf instead of an Arian-punching bishop.


The Clement Moore Santa is a tributary in the vast intertwined river of St. Nicks. Moore and Washington Irving and some other Hudson Valley guy were all Dutch, and Santa Claus is just a Dutch way of saying Sankt Niklaus (that's German, I don't know the real Dutch) really fast. Try it.

Even Moore's Santa was still an elf, sprightly and all. He didn't get to be fat and jolly with a red suit until Coca-Cola ads in the 20s.

And lots of cultures have a tradition of a guy who gives presents at Christmas or near it. The Brits have Father Christmas, who inspires Kinks songs. The Germans have the Weihnachtsmann.

Catholic Germans and Austrians have a separate day for St Nick, Nikolaustag, December 6. Children leave their shoes out and in the morning St. Nick has filled them with candy.

I have no problem with their being a secular and a religious tradition to Christmas. Every culture has a solstice celebration because you need hope that the sun is ever going to come back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:09 AM (gd9RK)

119 JTB at December 15, 2019 09:45 AM (7EjX1)

which one are you listening too?

I would like to find the best one to gift a friend who lost their eyesight.

Posted by: dIb at December 15, 2019 10:10 AM (VJOLZ)

120 72 ALH

That post really resonates for me. I'm trying to de-clutter for my kids also. I figure it's the last gift I can give them.

When my mother dies, dealing with all her things was agony. I waited 2 years after her death before I could bear to start.

I sold the last part of her stuff, that I decided not to keep, this past month. Consigned it to an auction house.

I was shocked that by far the most valuable thing I consigned was... an antique, iron, toy stove, circa 1910. I forgot I'd even included it. If I had any girls, I would've held onto it for them. It had lots of removable parts, & I think a couple of them were missing.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 10:10 AM (Cssks)

121 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Am I too late?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:13 AM (Ki5SV)

122 Golf clap, Mr. Muldoon!

Posted by: fly gal at December 15, 2019 10:14 AM (wqpwx)

123 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Am I too late?


You're just in time. We finished the mimosas, you can buy the next round.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (gd9RK)

124 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)


The Trixie Belden books.

Nancy Drew (classic series)

If she's a bit advanced in reading, start her into Agatha Christie and Dorothy Sayers.

If you want more contemporary YA stuff, I highly recommend the Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo. These are more fantasy though and are basically updated Russian fairy tales.

If you want stuff in the Hunger Games genre, the Testing series by Joelle Charbonneau is good, but it is in the teenagers killing/being killed genre so it depends on how you think she/her parents would feel about that.

If she's into scifi at all, Ready Player One the book is good but there is some wildly eyerolling shoehorned in sort of SJW type characters. At 13, she might not be old enough to read over it. Or, frankly, have the background in 80s pop culture to appreciate it.









Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (GbPPJ)

125 Charlaine Harris's Aurora Teagarden series would work for a 13 yr old. Mystery with some humor. Also, main character is very short so is sometimes not taken seriously. (being 5 ft tall, I related). She works in a library and is in a book club that solves mysteries. Perfect, right?

Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (QzF6i)

126 Comey on with Chris Wallace

Comey has a classic tell when he lies. His eyes shift down and to the right. He does it a lot

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 10:16 AM (NuJm4)

127 Comey has a classic tell when he lies. His eyes shift down and to the right. He does it a lot

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 10:16 AM (NuJm4)


I thought it was when his mouth moved and sound comes out.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 10:17 AM (9Om/r)

128 When Boy928 was a little child, he was convinced that Santa was Thor. Big guy, gives gifts to men, had a sled pulled by flying animals. I pointed out that Thor was pulled around by flying goats and he replied, 'Dad, it was the olden days. The reindeer probably hadn't grown their antlers yet so people just thought they were goats'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 10:17 AM (yQpMk)

129 As to Hanukkah books . . . there aren't any enduring universal classics on a par with "A Christmas Carol." And midcentury Jewish songwriters were too busy cranking out novelty Christmas songs to bother layering any secular mythology onto Hanukkah. Even Jews think the dreidel song is tiresome.

Dr. Mrs. T. does recommend some non-lame Hanukkah titles: All the Lights in the Night, by Arthur Levine (historical tale about Russian Jews), and Zagazak! by Eric Kimmel (a more straightforward fairy tale about devils trying to mess with people on Hanukkah and getting outwitted by the rabbi).

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (urZJh)

130 120
72 ALH



That post really resonates for me. I'm trying to de-clutter for my kids also. I figure it's the last gift I can give them.

---
Just a note: there is another poster who goes by ALH. That's not me.

I either use some variant of this nick or full-on sock puppet.

*Troy McClure voice*

You may remember me as Concerned Rock-Solid Conservative Army Vet or Joe Biden of the Horde.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (cfSRQ)

131 I have started reading The Man From The Train: Discovering America's Most Elusive Serial Killer by Bill James, who, as the rear flap tells us, is the creator of the Baseball Abstracts and is, during the day, the Senior Advisor on Baseball Operations for the Red Sox.

Apparently, if you are from Iowa (which I am not), you know about the murder of the Moore family in Villisca in 1912. James' book connects that crime to others pre- and post-1912 and builds a case for them all having been committed by a train-riding ax murderer.

It's quite a read, if true crime interests you.

https://tinyurl.com/ubysw5b

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)

132 When Boy928 was a little child, he was convinced that Santa was Thor. Big guy, gives gifts to men, had a sled pulled by flying animals. I pointed out that Thor was pulled around by flying goats and he replied, 'Dad, it was the olden days. The reindeer probably hadn't grown their antlers yet so people just thought they were goats'.

===

lol, clever

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 10:19 AM (zr5Kq)

133 Girl928, also at a young age and having seen some description of the flat-landers, explained to me that Santa was an N-Dimensional Being, "like Jesus", and that he didn't so much come down the chimney but rather used the fireplace as a locus to find the room. She literally used the term "locus".

My children were strange indeed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (yQpMk)

134 You're just in time. We finished the mimosas, you can buy the next round.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (gd9RK)


Excellent.

**calls out**

Waiter? Dom Peringon '53. And make it a jeroboam this time!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (Ki5SV)

135 Tami, I checked out Goodreads' list of books for 13-year-old girls. I haven't heard of most of them, but they recommend The Book Thief by Markus Zusak.

I have read that, and can recommend it. It's neither a mystery nor funny, but it's good.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (OX9vb)

136 119 ... "which one are you listening too?

I would like to find the best one to gift a friend who lost their eyesight."

It's the unabridged version read by Rob Inglis.

There is a BBC version that is an essemble cast with music and sound effects. I prefer the Inglis version that lets me concentrate on the writing.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (7EjX1)

137 A lot of history classes on the American Revolution tend to focus on the northern areas until they get to Yorktown. But my interest in the southern aspects is growing, partly for a more well rounded understanding and partly because it involved real citizen soldiers using guerilla tactics. I have the latest biography of the Swamp Fox (yes, I can still hear the Disney theme song), books the battles of King's Mountain and Cowpens, and some historically accurate fiction. I'm just starting to go through the material but so far it is fascinating. It does help to keep maps of the areas handy for reference.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:21 AM (7EjX1)

138 Grumpy: you've got great kids.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (urZJh)

139 Thanks everyone!

I'm checking these all out as you recommend them....

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (cF8AT)

140 Tami, also:

The Secret Keeper by Trenton Lee Stewart (and also his series The Mysterious Benedict Society)

The Father Brown Reader (adapted from the Father Brown mysteries by Chesterton)

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (G546f)

141 I'm going to hit the bookstore today to see if I can find some kids books that tell the story of Hannukah. If I find sometihing good will post next Sunday just in time for the start of the holiday. The story is very inspiring where the good guys win. Bonus....they're Jews! Almost as good as the 6 day war outcome.

Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (QzF6i)

142 I'm the one person in the world who hates The Book Thief
bleh

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)

143 The Book Thief is also a fantastic movie, can imagine the book is better.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (ZCEU2)

144 110 Hate

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I read it so long ago (50 years) that I don't remember it very well. I do recall thinking some of it was funny & ingenious.

ALH

Your comments about the war are perceptive.

You give the Republic more credit for potential success than I would. There's a lot to be said for controlling the agricultural part of Spain, & having Salazar's Portugal at Franco's back was a YUUGE plus.

But I agree about morale.

Insom never emailed me, not that I had anything much to offer. I think he protests too much. I always return to the essential fact that he's a licensed atty.

It offends the natural order of the cosmos for such a person to be under long-term duress.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 10:24 AM (Cssks)

145 I know this is O/T, but I missed Ace's thread about "two-hit wonders" the other day. I can only think of two:

The Royal Guardsmen - "Snoopy vs the Red Baron" and "Snoopy's Christmas"

and Jose Feliciano - "Feliz Navidad" and his cover of "Light My Fire."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:24 AM (Ki5SV)

146 Honesty is such a lonely word. Everyone is so untrue.

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (EgshT)

147 Good morning,

I took older grandson out for breakfast (little one has swimming lessons), and we did some shopping for a basketball hoop.

Last night, I bought the collected works of GK Chesterton for kindle. Husband was watching the Father Brown mysteries, and I can't imagine GK spent so much time worried about transvestites. I thought I'd read a few.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (U7k5w)

148 If you want more contemporary YA stuff, I highly recommend the Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo. These are more fantasy though and are basically updated Russian fairy tales.

==

KTY is crazy about these

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (G546f)

149 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.


Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)


The Egg and I by Betty MacDonald

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (1glZx)

150 Those snippets from "Bored of the Rings" make my day. Please don't stop.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (H8QX8)

151

Jeroboam was a Bullfrog was a good (hic) friend of mine till all the bubbly disappeared......we needs bigger bottles.

Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (5IHGB)

152 142 vmom

No you're not.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (Cssks)

153 Charlaine Harris's Aurora Teagarden series would work for a 13 yr old. Mystery with some humor. Also, main character is very short so is sometimes not taken seriously. (being 5 ft tall, I related). She works in a library and is in a book club that solves mysteries. Perfect, right?
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (QzF6i)


Oh yes, those are good.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (GbPPJ)

154 No you're not.

Posted by: mnw

*hi-5*

Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:27 AM (G546f)

155 142 vmom

Haha, that's ok.

I'm the only one who hates Jane Eyre, I think. I've never been able to finish it.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (OX9vb)

156 I'm the one person in the world who hates The Book Thief
bleh
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)



*raises hand* I loathe that book.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (GbPPJ)

157 Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,



Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing



Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)


Pfft. Lotus 7.

The perfect car for Number Six to drive.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (1glZx)

158 I would keep 13 year old girls away from the likes of
Carl v. Clauswitz.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (ZCEU2)

159 Charlaine Harris always has some questionable sex scenes though, just a warning if it's for a young teen

Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)

160 "I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl."

You might try the Artemis Fowl series by Eoin Colfer. About a 12 year old world class master criminal with a huge hulking Butler named Butler.

Semi-harry potter, but more humorous and less up their own backside.

First book is called Artemis Fowl.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, Man about Town at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (wmfhQ)

161 April, concur on the book thief. I'm neither female nor 13 (29, after all), but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think it was an assigned reading for Red,Jr., in HS, and he held onto his copy.
Neither mystery, nor funny, but intensely personal and captivating. Hard to believe, since it's a girl's-eye view of WW II civilian Germany.

Posted by: RI Red at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (cM3jS)

162 Alex and votermom - either of you seen the Book Thief movie?

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (ZCEU2)

163 As I noted here previously, a couple of years ago I did a major culling of the collection, getting rid of all the military history/weapons books that I knew had bogus data or outdated information. That opened up a lot of space. (I did keep a few that had sentimental value, like "Weapons and Warfare of the 20th Century" which was gift from my grandmother.)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

It is hard to cut down the library. My husband is a retired accounting professor (15 years at MSU), and had more journals and texts than he would ever use again. We donated some to interested libraries, and disposed of some others.

Oddly, when I was at a recent auction, a large box of accounting texts brought a few hundred dollars. I'm still glad they're gone. Now to reduce the supply of old cassettes. I can't believe he still has those.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (U7k5w)

164 159 I'm pretty sure that the Aurora Teagarden series is pretty tame. Not anythign like her vampire books which I read for the sex scenes.

Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:31 AM (QzF6i)

165 On the"everything old is new again" theme regarding cancel culture, I'm still reading Douglas Murray's "Madness of Crowds." There's not much new there, in the way of themes or examples, but he writes with a tightness that keeps the topics crisp and clear.

Bottom line: We're living in an age of intellectual darkness, where fear dictates who can say what, and the orthodoxy is being fiercely enforced... even while said orthodoxy changes almost daily.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:32 AM (hku12)

166 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.


Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

The Egg and I by Betty MacDonald
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (1glZx)


I second that, though I wonder about any modern 13 year old being able to appreciate it. In that vein, I'd recommend Rosemary Taylor's Chicken Every Sunday:

https://tinyurl.com/vdyowwh

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:33 AM (Ki5SV)

167 It's from the eyes of a young teenage girl during Germany WWII but Innocence Lost while eye opening doesn't end well until the very end.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:33 AM (ZCEU2)

168 @Tami - Someone may have suggested this already, but I'd recommend the Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie series. They're mysteries set in England and the protagonist is a sassy young girl. They're told from her point of view and she is very funny.

Posted by: Biancaneve at December 15, 2019 10:34 AM (cyKMU)

169 Pratchett's Tiffany Aching series is good for younger teens.

My youngest kidlet really liked the first five or so books of the Butcher Chicago Wizard series at that age.

Anything by Sachar, and the Wayside School books.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 10:34 AM (MIKMs)

170 Charlaine Harris always has some questionable sex scenes though, just a warning if it's for a young teen
Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)


Yeah, I read a lot, I mean a lot, of YA stuff but it's mostly supernatural/fantasy and I'm trying to remember what has sex and violence that would not be 13 yo appropriate.

Take the Beautiful Creatures series. Pretty much classic Southern Gothic tale but I'm not too sure it's 13 yo appropriate.

Dick Francis is great for mysteries, also horses, but I think that would be just a bit outside a 13 yo range.

Oh! The Holes series by Louis Sachar.

STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING BY JOHN GREEN

Not even interpretative dance can express the utter loathing I have for John Green and his works. I find everything he does to be utterly poisonous, the more so because his books are presented as being oh so deep and profound. They are not. At all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:37 AM (GbPPJ)

171 I can't even remember what I was reading as a 13yo. I'm pretty sure that's about when I read The Exorcist, and that was a gripping terror of a mistake.

But I've always read a lot of memoirs. And I wanted to be a comedienne. I read books by and/or about Erma Bombeck, Carol Burnette, Phyllis Diller and the like. Today's girls would probably not be interested.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:37 AM (OX9vb)

172 In Nabokov's biography he's just left Germany for the last time figuring the massive shitstorm will only get worse. He's trying for teaching gigs in the US even though he's well regarded in France. He's decided his future is writing in English but is pissed off that in the UK his works are published by an inappropriate publisher, like Anna Karenina as a Harlequin romance I guess. While in Paris some hawt divorcé was attracted to Vlad with Vera still back home. I don't know if they ever hid the salami, and even though this isn't an *official* biography Vera gave the writer access to anything he wanted, but Vlad acted nervous and guilty while there.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (y7DUB)

173 I have started reading The Man From The Train: Discovering America's Most Elusive Serial Killer by Bill James, who, as the rear flap tells us, is the creator of the Baseball Abstracts and is, during the day, the Senior Advisor on Baseball Operations for the Red Sox.

Apparently, if you are from Iowa (which I am not), you know about the murder of the Moore family in Villisca in 1912. James' book connects that crime to others pre- and post-1912 and builds a case for them all having been committed by a train-riding ax murderer.

It's quite a read, if true crime interests you.

https://tinyurl.com/ubysw5b
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)


Oh hell yes!

He's always been a first rate writer, above and beyond all the geek baseball stuff. The Iowa story in particular, it's probably the most interesting episode in the whole book, for how James teases out the aftermath of the murders.

And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)

174 It is hard to cut down the library. My husband is a
retired accounting professor (15 years at MSU), and had more journals
and texts than he would ever use again. We donated some to interested
libraries, and disposed of some others.



Oddly, when I was at a recent auction, a large box of accounting
texts brought a few hundred dollars. I'm still glad they're gone. Now to
reduce the supply of old cassettes. I can't believe he still has those.





Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (U7k5w)

---
There seem to be two approaches to it.

My wife tries to do the all-in-one-day thing, which can clear out a lot of stuff, but sometimes you get rid of stuff you didn't mean to in the frenzy.

I prefer a more gradual process, where I go through now and then and say "Gee, do I really need this?"

After a health scare, a friend of mine told his elderly father than he had to clean out the house because at some point he would have to go into assisted living. The solution they had was every month he would remove a single, small box of stuff and give it to his kids.

It took years, but it got done. I try to do that for my dad. He has told me I can take books I like with me, so I do that as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)

175 *raises hand* I loathe that book.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (GbPPJ)

I'm another non-fan. I tried reading this when it was so popular (a gift from a colleague who decided that I would love it), but I didn't. May be I'm too old.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:40 AM (U7k5w)

176 ATC, I've never read anything by John Green. Sounds like I haven't missed anything.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (OX9vb)

177 Get the reading in now before she hits HS and develops a loathing for reading.

Cornelia Funke is good and there is a James Patterson branded series for YA that my kids enjoyed at that age.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (MIKMs)

178 And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)


Just like the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)

179 So yeah, have your teenage girls read about axe murders or the insanity of modern living.

Probably better for them than whatever crep passes for young fiction. The real world ain't pretty, kids.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (hku12)

180 It took years, but it got done. I try to do that for my dad. He has told me I can take books I like with me, so I do that as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)

This sounds sensible for may things. But for 50 years of journals, we opted for the quicker approach.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (U7k5w)

181 Oh, Alex is here!

**smishes Her Imperial Malevolence**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)

182 174 It is hard to cut down the library.

I'm ruthless. If it's not a prized book I have re-read and probably will again or a gift from a family member I donate it to the local library.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (H8QX8)

183 OT- not book related at all.

Hint- You can't take it with you in the end. Someone will clean up your mess eventually.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (0OmEj)

184 I love the paintings OM includes each week. They are so pleasant. I can always use pleasant.

Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:44 AM (7EjX1)

185 Used in a sentence:


The Left hates you and wants you ostracized ... like Socrates.


OR


Ostracized? You mean, like, someone with their head up their ass?

Posted by: ShainS at December 15, 2019 10:45 AM (WqPYg)

186 And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)

Just like the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)


Funny thing is, after reading James' version of these events, I've looked for info elsewhere, and there are people who swear one of the two men who were accused of those murders must have done it.

Come on, people. There was zero evidence for either of them, but the rogues who controlled the town and/or the psychopath they let run the investigation, had everyone acting like insane lunatics, looking for a simple solution.

Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)

187 *smishes MP4 back*


ATC, I've never read anything by John Green. Sounds like I haven't missed anything.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (OX9vb)


He can tell a story and he's a good writer. My major issue with him is that the books are all basically look at grand and dramatic suicide and/or dying young of disease is and it's pitched at an audience who will take the wrong message from that. Green is far too smart to not know exactly what he is doing. I find it appalling.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (GbPPJ)

188 I went to a bookstore yesterday, I wanted to go there, and my GF wanted to go to the nearby Thai restaurant.

I picked up another Manning Coles detective novel Night Train to Paris, a Del Rey anthology of Erick Frank Russell, a history of the Heppner, Oregon flood in 1903, Rothbard's History of Banking in the United States, and books on dyeing fiber, and screen printing.

bookstore staff, bless them, they will look at your books and, unlike normal people, just figure you bought them because you are interested in all those things.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (1glZx)

189 Hate

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I read it so long ago (50 years) that I don't remember it very well. I do recall thinking some of it was funny & ingenious.


That's fine. I'm just glad someone here even knows about it so I'm just not ranting to myself. Again.

Btw, I might not comment here next weekend because my house will be overly full with children and grandchildren and my time and property will not be my own. If I show up here it will be because I've given them the traditional Christmas greeting of "fuck off" and run away from home.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:48 AM (y7DUB)

190 ( hoping CBD isn't around)
I much prefer classical paintings, there is so much detail to see and figure out why it's there or has to do with the subject.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:48 AM (ZCEU2)

191 I'm ruthless. If it's not a prized book I have re-read and probably will again or a gift from a family member I donate it to the local library.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (H8QX

I'm not a fiction collector, so I don't have that component to worry about. I did save most of the children's lit I bought decades ago, and I'm glad I did. It's higher quality than the stuff today. An older copy of the same book usually has better quality binding, paper, and even illustrations.

I did donate a large chunk of my cull to the library for the annual sale. Some of the accounting texts went on the first day. When I was in school, I quickly discovered that faculty often taught from older books, while assigning new ones. A trip to office hours always helps you find the real source of their lectures.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (U7k5w)

192 OT: Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.

https://bit.ly/2EkMT77

He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)

193 I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)

194 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)


Funny thing is, after reading James' version of these events, I've looked for info elsewhere, and there are people who swear one of the two men who were accused of those murders must have done it.

Come on, people. There was zero evidence for either of them, but the rogues who controlled the town and/or the psychopath they let run the investigation, had everyone acting like insane lunatics, looking for a simple solution.

Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)


Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)

195 It occurs to me that the majority of Hanukkah stories I can think about (other than retellings of the actual miracle of the lamp itself) are about people celebrating Hanukkah, rather than fantasies.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (urZJh)

196
Has anyone tried for the Who Dis? She looks like some ex-wife of a Beatle, so Jane Asher? Patti Boyd?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (W04rT)

197
I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)

Yeah I'm wondering about that myself. Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #242 clearly states - More is good, All is better.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (9Om/r)

198 Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.

https://bit.ly/2EkMT77

He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)


Holy shit that looks brutal.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (y7DUB)

199 193 I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)

As people who are much, much older than 29, it becomes almost a necessity to move things on.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)

200 196: Tis Asher, IMO

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:56 AM (U7k5w)

201 Heh I was.not aware of Pressfield's latest book. I will spend the money to buy it now. It is a theme outside of his wheelhouse though he has written a couple of other non - ancient military books. Legend of Bagger Vance being the most popular one. What he does include in all his books is the military mindset of valor and honor and focus while under pressure of life or death.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 15, 2019 10:56 AM (2DOZq)

202 OT: Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.

https://bit.ly/2EkMT77

He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)


Okay, I'm confused by that story.

Is the DNA evidence gone or contaminated so it can't be tested?

Because they way it reads, the potential DNA evidence exists, and can be tested, but hasn't been/isn't being tested Because Reasons. Okay, there have been enough faulty convictions that gives me pause.

But if he pardons the guy before the testing, then it turns out the guy is the one who did it, then the guy cannot be charged again, what with double jeopardy.

It seems a bit much to pardon, not just commute, without a definitive answer on the DNA.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:57 AM (GbPPJ)

203 I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick

My local Post Office used to do a book swap/drop-off.

Awhile ago, I picked up a copy of the Koran at a storage auction.

I wanted to read it, but it was written in Jabibese, so I was gonna drop it off at the PO.

Then I remembered that they have cameras there and I didn't want to be a suspected terrorist, so it got ummmmmm...... lost.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:58 AM (arJlL)

204 OT- not book related at all.



Hint- You can't take it with you in the end. Someone will clean up your mess eventually.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (0OmEj)


Sez you. I personally am requesting bids for a pyramid and about 5 cubic yards of Natron salts.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (1glZx)

205 I looked at the website for King's College. It looked like a classical curriculum, but the website was pretty incomplete.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)

206 OT: Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.

https://bit.ly/2EkMT77

He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)


A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive, soulless prick.

In fact.....

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)

207 Sez you. I personally am requesting bids for a pyramid and about 5 cubic yards of Natron salts.


Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (1glZx)


This person gets it!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (9Om/r)

208 Trump has a galactic-sized ego. This was once a character flaw, but tempered with time and some wisdom, and hitched to a higher calling, it's now a ginormous asset

Trump wants to go down as the most momentous POTUS ever. He wants Impeachment and a reality TV Senate trial, and vindication in a landslide re-election

He'll be unleashed in a second term

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:02 AM (NuJm4)

209 Any way, Chesterton fiction is pretty good so far, and of course it was modernized for the series Prof. N is watching. Still it is one of the few things on TV that doesn't cast traditional people in a bad light. The Colin Dexter adaptations do that.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (U7k5w)

210 My local Post Office used to do a book swap/drop-off.

Awhile ago, I picked up a copy of the Koran at a storage auction.

I wanted to read it, but it was written in Jabibese, so I was gonna drop it off at the PO.

Then I remembered that they have cameras there and I didn't want to be a suspected terrorist, so it got ummmmmm...... lost.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:58 AM (arJlL)


Back in the day I thought Sarah Silverman was funny. And cute.

Then I bought her book.

One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)

211 Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)


I skipped at bit ahead - James does admit that his suspect probably went to NO at some point, but he is certain the man is not The Mysterious Axe Man - of whom a fairly decent book came out a couple of years ago, Miriam Davis' Axeman of New Orleans:

https://tinyurl.com/s33umxx

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (Ki5SV)

212 I'm pretty sure the New Orleans axeman was a proto-Mafia operating among the Sicilian immigrants in town. Some guys didn't pay up and got whacked as a message to the rest. Then some joker wrote a letter to the paper claiming he wouldn't strike where a jazz band was playing.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (urZJh)

213 If things were a little different here I would make the coolest little free library you ever saw and put in it books I thought I wouldn't read again.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)

214 203: it can be used as shit paper in a pinch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (F6S6j)

215 One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)

You couldn't return it.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (U7k5w)

216 A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive, soulless prick.

In fact.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)


Few people piss me off as much as the GOP Pom Pom wavers who refuse to understand that we particularly shoved DJT up their monkey asses.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (y7DUB)

217 If things were a little different here I would make
the coolest little free library you ever saw and put in it books I
thought I wouldn't read again.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)


Once upon a time I printed off the PDF of Hayek's The Road to Serfdom in Cartoons to try to give to a coworkers grandkid as "a coloring book"

I have to print some of those out and salt them into the tiny free libraries around town.
Because I am a giver.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)

218 Got to watch Maria Bartiromo on Fox today. If you are not infuriated at what the FBI, CIA, DoJ, The Obama Administration and the media did to try and subvert a President of the United States, then you should revoke your citizenship. There is no limit to what these subversive agencies will do to undermine the people's will. Furthermore, the FISA court and its obviously partisan judges should be disbanded. They are nothing but a political device being used by liberals to help with their anti democratic schemes.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (m/eiQ)

219 Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)

I can't tell from the reviews...anything in this that isn't appropriate for a 13 yo girl?

And thank you everyone...my amazon cart is loaded!

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (cF8AT)

220 I have given up on the DRAGON REPUBLIC, i just can't, the main character I want to see here die.


I have started MISTBORN by BRANDON SANDERSON so far so good, I like how MAGIC is used by using metals. I like the premise where the Hero failed and the Dark Lord wins and reins over Humans.

I would reccomend his other books

Steelheart the RECKONERS series is really good as well where all superpowers are used for evil and Governments have fell because of them, the reckoners go about killing them. If you like THE BOYS on amazon this is much better since it doesn't bash Christians. and it does have some faith that someday Heroes will come.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (B3b/D)

221 I have to print some of those out and salt them into the tiny free libraries around town.
Because I am a giver.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)

Fun idea

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (U7k5w)

222 Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)

I skipped at bit ahead - James does admit that his suspect probably went to NO at some point, but he is certain the man is not The Mysterious Axe Man - of whom a fairly decent book came out a couple of years ago, Miriam Davis' Axeman of New Orleans:

https://tinyurl.com/s33umxx
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (Ki5SV)


One of the crucial takeaways from all this is that police have been bungling murder "investigations" for a long long time, and the illusion that there are a bunch of Sherlock Holmes and Columbos running around solving murders is basically, bullship.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM (hku12)

223 I used to have a very large book collection which covered a shelf running the circumference of the our finished basement. My sons and I read a lot of the same science fiction and history anad so most had been read at least a couple of times. My late husband decided to meticulously box all of them and each box had a computerized record of what was in each box. He did not understand my extreme displeasure at what he had done. Thought he was doing me a favor by conputerizing everything that we had read and cleaning up. Needless to say, those books never came out of the boxes but at least eventually got donated so they could be read again.

Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM (QzF6i)

224 I'm pretty sure the New Orleans axeman was a proto-Mafia operating among the Sicilian immigrants in town. Some guys didn't pay up and got whacked as a message to the rest. Then some joker wrote a letter to the paper claiming he wouldn't strike where a jazz band was playing.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (urZJh)


And New Orleans being New Orleans, they turned the thing in to one great big party.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (hku12)

225 213 - That shouldn't stop me from making one

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (ZCEU2)

226 OK, it's been a nice hour, but I think I will make a cup of tea and read some more of James' book.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (Ki5SV)

227 My 14 year old granddaughter recommends Phillip Pullman's Sally Lockhart series.

Posted by: parker at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM (mmH7U)

228 One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)

You couldn't return it.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (U7k5w)


Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM (hku12)

229 I'm outta here too. Got to get to the bookstore before the Pat's game. Going to make some chili this afternoon.

Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (QzF6i)

230 225 213 - That shouldn't stop me from making one
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (ZCEU2)

No, it shouldn't. It might catch on. Most libraries of this nature (not government run) are for kids.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (U7k5w)

231 Trump has a galactic-sized ego. This was once a character flaw, but tempered with time and some wisdom, and hitched to a higher calling, it's now a ginormous asset

Trump wants to go down as the most momentous POTUS ever. He wants Impeachment and a reality TV Senate trial, and vindication in a landslide re-election

He'll be unleashed in a second term
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:02 AM (NuJm4)


I've watched many interviews he did in the 80's and 90's. The astonishing thing is that he was saying the exact same things then as he says now. He is definitely not a reed blowing in the wind.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (aS1PU)

232 A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy
has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive,
soulless prick.



In fact.....

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)

---
I remember the concern trolls flooding the comments here and trying to tie Bevan to Trump.

Uh, no. Bevan was hugely unpopular and Trump almost saved his sorry ass.

The rest of Kentucky went deep, deep red.

Same with LA governor. Guy's a pro-life Dem. Talk about a rara avis.

It's almost like there's a huge (yuge?) market for socially conservative but economically liberal politics that puts the working class' welfare front and center.

The "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" thing is a very narrow segment when you stop to count the votes, especially since "fiscally conservative" in practice means "Whatever the Chamber of Commerce/Mega-corporations want."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)

233 "The Colin Dexter adaptations do that."



I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)

234
Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM

For my money, I like thinking the author does not benefit from returns.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)

235 Chuck Todd now looking for an exit ramp from Impeachment, using a panel of ordinary people in MI. Media will want to drop this story after Nancy makes her caucus drink the Kool Aid vat so lethal

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (NuJm4)

236 217 Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)

Is that a thing? Do you have a link? I'd be happy to do likewise.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:16 AM (OX9vb)

237 I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)

About time.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (U7k5w)

238 Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think he's pretty family-friendly.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)

239 Rant, Chapter Two

Mukasey, no stranger to the law, noted this morning that Congressional subpoena power under Title 18 does NOT cover phone records and that Congress does NOT have that power. Ergo Schiff's request was in criminal violation of the statute and his release of those records was likely also criminal. By the way, so was the phone companies actually responding to those subpoenas, which they did willfully and which any decent corporate privacy lawyer would deny.

Remember it's not just the abuse of power. It's auspices like phone companies and the media who use requests to satisfy things or stories they are already predispose to.

If they can do this to a sitting U.S. President, imagine what they can do to you.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (m/eiQ)

240 If you like THE BOYS on amazon this is much better since it doesn't bash Christians. and it does have some faith that someday Heroes will come.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (B3b/D)


The Amazon series takes a number of turns differently from the book series, and I'm not sure why.

It's a very different story, in several crucial ways.

I've almost finished the book series, and I think I know where it's going to end, but the tv show, being only one season in, has lots of places it can go, but the cliffhanger is not in the book. The underlying incident is, the reason Butcher is on the path he's on, but the... after effects... not in the book.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:18 AM (hku12)

241 Chuck Todd now looking for an exit ramp from
Impeachment, using a panel of ordinary people in MI. Media will want to
drop this story after Nancy makes her caucus drink the Kool Aid vat so
lethal

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (NuJm4)

---
Freshman MI congresscritter Elissa Slotkin says she'll vote for impeachment even though it will likely cost her re-election.

She ran as a "country before party" centrist and hyped that she worked for both Bush and Obama.

At the CIA.

So yeah, I knew she'd vote to impeach. That was why she ran in the first place.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:19 AM (cfSRQ)

242 238 Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think he's pretty family-friendly.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)

Ok, thanks April!

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 11:21 AM (cF8AT)

243 Remember that every single Democrat Party policy requires you to give up liberty, property or freedom in exchange. This is the hallmark of people who want to rule over you life, not govern. It should be punished by banishing these despots from the political arena for a hundred years.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (m/eiQ)

244 239: we don't have to imagine. we have seen it for years. you just have to be skeptical of everything your government says and does. i haven't trusted them since high school. (i'm retired, now.)

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (KP5rU)

245 The "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" thing is a very narrow segment when you stop to count the votes, especially since "fiscally conservative" in practice means "Whatever the Chamber of Commerce/Mega-corporations want."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)


Yep. Big donor Republicans aren't as bad as the shitty shitty Democrats, but that's about the nicest thing I can say about them.

Trump cares about the little guy. No matter what spin the left and the nevertrumpers put on it, they aren't fooling too many people... at least I hope not.

I want the Trump landslide to include lots and lots of data about working class folks of all skin colors and sex habits, voting for him because... why wouldn't they.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (hku12)

246 238
Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I
all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think
he's pretty family-friendly.

Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)

---
When I was in high school, Dave Barry Slept Here - A Sort of History of the United States was THE book.

We quoted it all the time. From memory:

"The US dropped the atomic bomb Hiroshima because we believed only a horrific display of destructive power would convince Japan to surrender.

We bombed Nagasaki because, hey, we had another bomb."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)

247 131 I have started reading The Man From The Train: Discovering America's Most Elusive Serial Killer by Bill James, who, as the rear flap tells us, is the creator of the Baseball Abstracts and is, during the day, the Senior Advisor on Baseball Operations for the Red Sox.

As discussed on the book thread earlier this year, recommended by 'ette April:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379220

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:24 AM (zGtXn)

248 "Ergo Schiff's request was in criminal violation of the statute and his release of those records was likely also criminal. By the way, so was the phone companies actually responding to those subpoenas,"

They don't care. No reason they should. Nothing will happen to them.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:24 AM (H8QX8)

249 I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)


I hope that's true. Solid crime mysteries, but recent seasons had too much melodrama. I have the most recent season here somewhere. Maybe time to crack it open.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (hku12)

250 I've watched many interviews he did in the 80's and 90's. The astonishing thing is that he was saying the exact same things then as he says now. He is definitely not a reed blowing in the wind.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (aS1PU)

It's pretty astonishing. There may be no figure in American politics who has been so consistently, rationally and boldly pro-American over the years.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (H8QX8)

251 Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)


You could do that a lot easier back in 1912, avoiding prosecution by fleeing to another state. Back then, states were more actual states and not mere administrative units of the federal government.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (zGtXn)

252 Heh I was.not aware of Pressfield's latest book. I will spend the money to buy it now. It is a theme outside of his wheelhouse though he has written a couple of other non - ancient military books. Legend of Bagger Vance being the most popular one. What he does include in all his books is the military mindset of valor and honor and focus while under pressure of life or death.
Posted by: Easy Andy

"The Afghan Campaign", Alexander and his army in Scythia, aka Afghanistan. It ends badly

"The Virtues of War", Alexander and his army against the world. Some of his generals get tired of the war and fall away.

"Gates of Fire", the Spartans at Thermopylae

"Tides of War"; The Peloponesian War, told first person as a reminiscence, as the soldier is about to be executed for assasinating Alcibiades, whom he was ordered to kill. This book actually helped me understand the almost incomprehensible Peloponesion War.

"Killing Rommel", a fast paced and short novel about the British Long Range Desert Group.

"The Profession"; a future fiction that is now unlikely to take place, but is a fun read. Trump-CNN was in this future. Heh.

"The Lion's Gate"; a kind of narrative interview history of the Six Day War in 1967. I read it along with "Six Days of War", by David Oren, and that allowed me to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
"Six Days of War" is a serious history, and is a very good book to read about the 1967 Arab - Israeli War.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....not a Russian agent...yet at December 15, 2019 11:27 AM (bFkYZ)

253 The targets of Schiffs illegal phone records request are now working on legal options. That includes Giuliani and Nunes. They won't be letting that go unanswered.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:27 AM (m/eiQ)

254 I second the rec for the Sally Lockhart mysteries and for Cornelia Funke

Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 11:28 AM (G546f)

255 One of the crucial takeaways from all this is that police have been bungling murder "investigations" for a long long time, and the illusion that there are a bunch of Sherlock Holmes and Columbos running around solving murders is basically, bullship.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM


To be fair, most murders are normal. The killer and victim know each other. The killer has some reason for the killing, no matter how stupid to anyone else. You can start interviewing friends and acquaintances of the victim and eventually the killer's name will be mentioned. Sometimes, the killer will feel remorse/guilt and will be acting differently, or leave the area.

A murder by a serial killer is entirely different. The killer and victim do not know each other. The victim may be an easy victim (hobo, prostitute, runaway) and their absence may not be noticed.

And would anyone have read Sherlock Holmes if every story was 1) Joe killed his wife because he found her messing around with another man. 2) Tony killed Frank because they both were drunk and Frank ate the turkey leg.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 11:29 AM (r6GXX)

256 Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM

For my money, I like thinking the author does not benefit from returns.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)


She's getting old and haggard, and Alyssa Milano has already sewn up the old has-been bitch market on twatter, so I'm thinking Sarah just sits around counting her dwindling income, remembering all the old Hollowwood c**ks she had to suck, and trying to figure out if she should get a job as a waitress somewhere, and can keep whoring herself out to less and less famous for a while longer.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:30 AM (hku12)

257 Read Team of Teams, by GEN McChrystal. I dont care for his politics, but he did call the Obama Administration a bunch of clowns. So he's an equal opportunity political hater. The book, however, is great.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (m/eiQ)

258 One thing about 2020 already seems clear:

Trump will have a much bigger ground game, & a lot more money too.

A recent poll (by somebody respectable, but I forget who) showed the GOP was +7 over the DEMs on "enthusiasm," which is unusual, assuming it's twue.*

"We don't want to fight, but by jingo if we do..."

*("Is it true what they say about you people? It's twue! It's twue!")

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Cssks)

259 Is that a thing? Do you have a link? I'd be happy to do likewise.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:16 AM (OX9vb)



goes to FEE.org for HTML article

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vvbxnou

goes to Mises.org for the PDF

https://mises.org/files/road-serfdom-cartoonspdf

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:33 AM (1glZx)

260 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2019 11:33 AM (u82oZ)

261 Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)

You could do that a lot easier back in 1912, avoiding prosecution by fleeing to another state. Back then, states were more actual states and not mere administrative units of the federal government.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (zGtXn)


Easier, sure, but it's not THAT much better now.

Traveling serial killers are still wildly successful in avoiding capture, and while it's less likely anyone these days is going to get famous the way Dahmer and Gacy and Bundy and all the nickname killers did, there's plenty of evidence that there are perhaps more, not fewer serial killers roaming around today.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:35 AM (hku12)

262 "The US dropped the atomic bomb Hiroshima because we believed only a horrific display of destructive power would convince Japan to surrender.
We bombed Nagasaki because, hey, we had another bomb."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)


Barr's annual, year-end news round-ups are always a hoot. He's pretty even-handed politically, too, and maybe a wee bit conservative. I can't wait to see how he's going to cover the impeachment follies.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:35 AM (zGtXn)

263 I think there have been a few serial killers in modern times who were interstate truck drivers, mostly truck stop hookers who ended up as victims but not always them alone.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (ZCEU2)

264 I'm outta here too. Got to get to the bookstore before the Pat's game. Going to make some chili this afternoon.


Posted by: sharon


Don't forget to swing by the grocer for carrots on your way back from the bookstore!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (N4r5a)

265 Finishing up the book Hrothgar loaned me:

Tuning the Rig: A Journey to the Arctic by Harvey Oxenhorn.

Quite the salty tale to watch the snow fall.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (u82oZ)

266 I can't stay to chat because I'm getting ready for church. However, I looked at that King's College online. On the surface they appeared to be an amazing, Bible-believing school, but once I started poking around the student handbook, I discovered they are super-supportive of their transgender students. In the same sentence they speak of their biblical worldview and also how someone may be a different gender than the one they were "assigned" at birth. Be aware.

Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (L9+g/)

267 And would anyone have read Sherlock Holmes if every story was 1) Joe killed his wife because he found her messing around with another man. 2) Tony killed Frank because they both were drunk and Frank ate the turkey leg.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 11:29 AM (r6GXX)


Right, exactly. Fiction is fiction, and I guess I enjoy it as much as the next guy, but the vast majority of cases look like the ones you describe.

And the freakazoids out there? Yeah, they get away with it in a high percentage of cases.

As the Colin Dexter work was mentioned earlier, I always thought it was amusing to imagine a real life Oxford at which college students and perfessers and housewives were killing and dying at the rate at which they were in the books. Why, Oxford would be as notorious as Detroit.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (hku12)

268 258 One thing about 2020 already seems clear:
Trump will have a much bigger ground game, a lot more money too.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Cssks)


He'll need a lot more money just to combat the epic voter fraud that the Dems are going to try to get away with. They didn't cheat much in 2016 because they thought they had the election in the bag, but in 2020, whoa nellie, look out.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:39 AM (zGtXn)

269 I think there have been a few serial killers in modern times who were interstate truck drivers, mostly truck stop hookers who ended up as victims but not always them alone.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (ZCEU2)


More than a few. I forget the numbers but it's probably at least dozens, if not hundreds. And I'm just talking about over the road truckers. Not your average hooker killer, roaming the streets of his own home town.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM (hku12)

270 Tami, I don't know if anyone has recommended these yet, but Phyllis A. Whitney did a juvenile mystery series that I enjoyed when I was about that age.

https://phyllisawhitney.com/juvenilemysterylist.htm

I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM (/669Q)

271 266 I can't stay to chat because I'm getting ready for church. However, I looked at that King's College online. On the surface they appeared to be an amazing, Bible-believing school, but once I started poking around the student handbook, I discovered they are super-supportive of their transgender students. In the same sentence they speak of their biblical worldview and also how someone may be a different gender than the one they were "assigned" at birth. Be aware.

Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (L9+g/)


Wow. Some people just can't wait to guzzle the kool-aid.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (zGtXn)

272
Has anyone tried for the Who Dis? She looks like some ex-wife of a Beatle, so Jane Asher? Patti Boyd?


Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (W04rT)


It's Asher. I'm still waiting to collect my winnings at #10.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cWKsE)

273 Hiya,

Hope you all are doing well. I've read a few books lately, but I only have time to mention one today. Hopefully, I can post more next week.

Recently, on this thread someone mentioned It Didn't Start With Watergate. I was able to obtain a copy from a local college library, so here's my review:

It Didn't Start With Watergate--though this book was written in 1977, it details political scandals and Democratic opposition strategies that sound like today's news. The author, Victor Lasky, was a conservative columnist. Lasky brings to light the scandals of the JFK and LBJ administrations, and he also somewhat refers back to Eisenhower, Truman, and FDR. Lasky claims that the Watergate impeachment hearings succeeded in removing Nixon from office (by resignation) largely because of the media's influence. He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.

Some examples:
In 1960, when Nixon was running against JFK, in at least one of the debates, one of the panelists had been in contact with the Kennedy campaign and received questions that the campaign wanted asked of Nixon. The panelist did ask the questions, so Nixon had the deck stacked against him.

In 1961, the Kennedy administration used the IRS to target tax-exempt right-wing groups. [Nixon also used the IRS to investigate student leaders, subversives, etc., but Lasky's point is that the press harped on Nixon's transgressions, yet they did not deem it noteworthy to report on Kennedy's].

The Kennedy administration bugged political opponents and civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King.

He briefly mentions the cover-up at Chappaquiddick, and how the media barely covered and quickly dropped the incident.

In 1964, LBJ went after Senator John Williams. Williams was investigating LBJ and Bobby Baker on suspicions of corruption. LBJ had the IRS audit Williams, and he monitored all of Williams communications. Then, the Washington Post "helpfully" published an unchecked story that Williams was using hidden microphones in his office to record interviews.

Lasky states near the end of the book that the Democrats' minds were made up even before the impeachment hearings began--sound familiar?

This book is dry. I would recommend it for people who are interested in Watergate and the Kennedy and LBJ scandals. It is also interesting to see the similarities between then and now, especially with the biased media. I certainly do not think that the ugly politics only started with Kennedy or even FDR. I believe politics have always been ugly. It would be interesting to trace when it was that the media became so biased against conservatives.

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I saw a post above requesting humorous books or mysteries for a 13 year old. I'll think about it today, and try to get back to you later this evening.


Posted by: Violet at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (9ppMC)

274 Picked up The Enemy by Lee Child a while back used and finally got around to reading it. It features Jack Reacher and is a flashback book on close to the end of his military career- not the first book he wrote in the series, but probably the first book in the timeline (and I certainly have not read off of them, so that may not be correct). Liked it- there is a scene close to the beginning that seemed like something Reacher would do, but he miscalculated on who caused something and it had some serious flashback at the end. Thought the plot was going to be a complicated mess, but actually turned out simpler than expected. Pretty solid book and I would recommend. Actually liked one of the other characters that worked with Reacher enough to want to know more about her.

Posted by: Charlotte at December 15, 2019 11:43 AM (Aj6Tl)

275 Pro Tip: I'm fairly certain MacGyver didn't improvise utilizing his nipples as suspenders. Awkward!

Posted by: Fritz at December 15, 2019 11:44 AM (zD38/)

276 Many Christian universities have gone full justice warriors, there is nothing the Left touches it doesn't ruin.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)

277 I'm kind of between books this week. Finished up American Moonshot, which ends a bit anticlimactically when Kennedy is assassinated. I was hoping for more about Armstrong and the development of the Saturn rocket, but apparently once the political heavy lifting was over Brinkley lost interest.

I did start a new (old) book: The Rise and Fall of D.O.D.O. by Neal Stephenson and Nicole Galland. I'm about a quarter of the way into it. Will comment more next time.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (urZJh)

278 I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM


She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)

279 They didn't cheat much in 2016 because they thought they had the election in the bag, but in 2020, whoa nellie, look out.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:39 AM (zGtXn)

My gut feeling is that we either win in a relative landslide or we lose narrowly. In the latter case, the voter fraud will be so grotesquely obvious and result in such an outcry that the election will end up in the courts.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:48 AM (H8QX8)

280 Tami again - I also second alex's recs of the Trixie Belden series, and of course the classic Nancy Drews.

And the rec for the Flavia de Luce mysteries by Alan Bradley.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:49 AM (/669Q)

281 She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
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*ba-DUM-tiss*

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (/669Q)

282 She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)

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Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)

283 Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'

I think you've got a point there.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)

284 It's Asher. I'm still waiting to collect my winnings at #10.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cWKsE)


Your winnings, sir:

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Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (zGtXn)

285 283 Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'

I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)


Very sharp humor, the lot of you.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (zGtXn)

286 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.


Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)

Well they're not mystery or humerous, but the Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCafffrey might be of interest...

HMMV

Posted by: browndog at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (gD6Ka)

287 Still remember in 4th grade the teacher ( and one of my hottest) read Robert Frosts Stopping By the Woods at the end of class. Use to have it memorized.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)

288 He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.

Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)

289 Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'

I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)

Very sharp humor, the lot of you.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (zGtXn)
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You guys really slay me.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (/669Q)

290 Tami, I have a book recommendation for your thirteen-year-old...Essays of E. B. White.

I know it sounds boring. But it's not. Yes, it's an "adult" book but there's absolutely nothing salacious in it. E. B. White wrote "Charlotte's Web" and his writing style really doesn't differ between the two genres. it's funny and educational and even a little sad in spots. But the writing is unparalleled. This is what words were meant to do.

Posted by: creeper at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (XxJt1)

291 I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM

She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)


Leaving aside the building pun-athon here, this is another illustration of the differences between boys and girls.

Girls wait in anticipation of story time. Boys wait in anticipation of getting out of the godawful classroom entirely.

Why, it's almost like there's a hardwire difference....

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:54 AM (hku12)

292 Currently reading Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim.

Actually bought the book.

Kindles suck.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (RU4sa)

293 Well, BurtTC, I see your point, but the boys didn't dawdle because they'd rather listen to a mystery than do more work.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (/669Q)

294 Tami-

Okay.....At the beginning of Big Ttouble, Barry states....

"I'll start with a warning: This is not a book for youngsters. I point this out because I know from reading my mail, that a lot of youngsters read my humor books and newspaper columns, and I'm thrilled that they do. But this book is not for them, because some of the characters use ADULT Language. I did not necessarily want the characters to use this type of language; some of them just went ahead and did. That's how some characters are. "

Sorry if I gave ya a bum steer.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (arJlL)

295 Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?

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Nixon also tried to placate the left rather than oppose it and that's how affirmative action became a federal policy and the EPA became a nationwide bureaucratic overlord.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (XVuno)

296
Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse. Not that he willfully and enthusiastically participated in a coup attempt, and necessarily knew exactly what was going on every step of the way.

A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)

297 Stopping By the Woods

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)

It's a lovely poem.


My wife took an English class that met in Robert Frost's old house....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (wYseH)

298 276 Many Christian universities have gone full justice warriors, there is nothing the Left touches it doesn't ruin.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)


Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)

299 Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse.

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"I put too much faith in my generals."

Posted by: A. Hitler at December 15, 2019 11:57 AM (XVuno)

300 Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)

The Progressive movement in this country was initially evangelical, as Daniel Flynn chronicles in his book "A Conservative History of the American Left."

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:58 AM (H8QX8)

301 A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)


That was the exact same phrase that occurred to me.

I think Comey realizes he could be indicted very soon, so he needs to be *very careful* about the types of statements he makes, and deeds he admits to either knowing or doing, in public forums.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (zGtXn)

302 He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.
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Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)


Incidentally, I watched the Amazon show, "Marvelous Mrs. Maisel," and for the most part it's highly recommended. Great writing and acting, but the third season hits some sour notes. A few of the characters become caricatures, which I think might be an inevitable outcome for any tv show, but worse than that, the writers show their ignorance when it comes to politics of the time.

This is 1960, and if they just left it at "vote for Senator Kennedy, because he's cute," that would be fine. But they get in some digs at Nixon that could only be written after Watergate, and worst of all... they go after Phyllis Schlafly. The heavy handed hatred almost looks personal, and not just stupid ignorance.

Anyhoo, the show is otherwise great, and I would recommend it. Especially Season 2, which rises to a level I would say is brilliant.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (hku12)

303 In 1960 Nixon would have had to overturn the corrupt vote in both IL and TX. Low odds so he didn't fight it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)

304 Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse. Not that he willfully and enthusiastically participated in a coup attempt, and necessarily knew exactly what was going on every step of the way.

A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)
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He has no choice but to admit he was wrong, now that it's all out there in the open. And don't give me this "I had too much faith in the system" bs, you pine-scented Druid. You were the top of the heap - when you saw something this outlandish, you had a responsibility to dive deep into this and make SURE you knew exactly what was what.

Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO, do not collect $100, and stop trying to pass the buck.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:01 PM (/669Q)

305 303 In 1960 Nixon would have had to overturn the corrupt vote in both IL and TX. Low odds so he didn't fight it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)

In those days it wasn't the hard Left it was Tammany Hall style boss corruption.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 12:01 PM (H8QX8)

306 Well, BurtTC, I see your point, but the boys didn't dawdle because they'd rather listen to a mystery than do more work.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (/669Q)


This is true. I had some experience with story time in school, a few teachers who seemed to "get it" when it comes to holding the attention, but boys being boys, we'd still have rather been outside.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (hku12)

307 Do Comey seems to be conscious of his possible peril and bring careful but fat Nadler is out of control

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (StN5E)

308 I'm not a Comey fan; I guess it's pretty obvious.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (/669Q)

309 Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were
clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon
refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work
out?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)




Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)

310 I have to tell you this story: Newman used to race cars in local competition, and there was a moron a few years back, I forget his nic, who competed on the same circuit. Said moron encountered Newman at the track on more than one occasion and said he had the most striking blue eyes he had ever seen. He went on: "...and you know what's weird? I'm a guy. I don't ever notice some other man's eyes."
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Sigh.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:04 PM (/669Q)

311 Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)

The Progressive movement in this country was initially evangelical, as Daniel Flynn chronicles in his book "A Conservative History of the American Left."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:58 AM (H8QX


One might call progressivism a heresy, if we talked about such things in these terms these days.

The world is corrupt. Man is corrupt. The Kingdom of Heaven cannot be brought here, no matter how hard we try.

But we keep trying, and while I get it that the godless would want to do so. I get it less, when Churches decide to give it a shot.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:04 PM (hku12)

312 And saw a tweet from the President that Wray made makes him think he too isn't going to fix what ails the FBI.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:04 PM (ZCEU2)

313 I put a hold on the hardbound copy of 36 RIGHTEOUS MEN in my library but cancelled it after reading the sample and the 1 and 2 star ratings. The book reads like a movie script which is a pet peeve of mine. Nope, not for me.

Back to re-reading THE LAST SAMURAI by Helen deWitt...



Posted by: Oggi at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (Bk5Q+)

314 304; bluebell, comey needs a federal pound him in the ass prison. fuck jail. when he said he could find no intent with regards to hillary, he should have been hanged. that dude is a fucking traitor.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (KP5rU)

315 Left is setting up that Trumps win in 2020 will be fraudulent. "Clear and present danger"

Putin stands ready to buy $1 million in Facebook ads to give them the evidence

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (NuJm4)

316 Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)


Hold my beer.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (zGtXn)

317 Charlotte-

I've read all of the Reacher books several times each.

They're like crack to me.

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (arJlL)

318 I'm not a Comey fan; I guess it's pretty obvious.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (/669Q)


We all saw it for ourselves. Comey laid out Hillory's crimes, and then said... "nah, not going to go after criminal proceedings."

The disconnect was obvious to all, and so here we are.

Yeah, no, douchebag, you don't get to claim ignorance now.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (hku12)

319 316; fuck all y'all. hold my crack pipe.


barry ofuckstick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (KP5rU)

320 316 Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)
Hold my beer.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (zGtXn)


No, you hold my beer.

Posted by: Barak Obama at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (zGtXn)

321 LBJ was far worse than Carter. Vietnam and Great Society

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (NuJm4)

322 This doesn't sound good: Iran has moved tanks and armored vehicles into Iraq, apparently to quell anti-Iran protests.

https://tinyurl.com/sp3nka9

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 15, 2019 12:09 PM (sWM8x)

323 Iran invading Iraq?

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1205975449408548866

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:10 PM (RU4sa)

324 We all saw it for ourselves. Comey laid out Hillory's crimes, and then said... "nah, not going to go after criminal proceedings."

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (hku12)
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And chavez, you said the same thing. Yep, I remember watching that briefing he gave, I think it was July 5, 2016, and hearing him list all Hillary's wrongdoings and thinking, "yes! Yes! Finally!" and then he gets to the end and starts in with the "no intent" and "no reasonable prosecutor" business and I thought are you effing KIDDING ME?

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:11 PM (/669Q)

325 Left is setting up that Trumps win in 2020 will be fraudulent. "Clear and present danger"

Putin stands ready to buy $1 million in Facebook ads to give them the evidence
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (NuJm4)


Million? Silly American. I can buy a thousand dollars worth of Facecrook ads, and that would do the trick.

And send a text message to some assistant to the assistant deputy sub-committee for the Re-election of Trump, and they'll say I'm controlling all of them.

Why do I do this, you ask? World domination?

Nah, it's just fun watching American politicians act like middle school bullies.

Posted by: Pootin, On the Fritz at December 15, 2019 12:12 PM (hku12)

326 Don't see much around from Carter left though sure there are some but LBJ has sown the seeds of our downfall.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:13 PM (ZCEU2)

327 This doesn't sound good: Iran has moved tanks and armored vehicles into Iraq, apparently to quell anti-Iran protests.

https://tinyurl.com/sp3nka9
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 15, 2019 12:09 PM (sWM8x)

323 Iran invading Iraq?

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1205975449408548866
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:10 PM (RU4sa)


Oh my. Sounds serious. Well, good luck to them.

We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)

328 "Iran invading Iraq?"


Good thing we spent 20 years training and arming the Iraqis, this should be a cakewalk for them. But it ain't worth one American life.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (4thlk)

329 We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)

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Yes.

As well as in Kuwait.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (RU4sa)

330 Seems like the logical thing for the parents in the chain to do would be to find a willing "victim" in the form of a terminally ill child medicated to the point that they would not be aware of any pain/torture the kidnappers might inflict upon them, and the parents could take comfort in knowing that their child saved many others from the trauma of being kidnapped and whoever else would've ended up as the final victim from their trauma.
But I guess that wouldn't be a very good novel.

Posted by: Otter Fodder at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (Qqq4N)

331 This thread isn't quite dead, but it sure does seem to be pining for the fjords.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)

332 Kuwait is telling its people to gtfo of Iraq.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (RU4sa)

333 "And now for something completely different..."

Does anybody have recommendations pro or con for a conical burr type coffee grinder? Preferably under $100 or so.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (qc+VF)

334 321 LBJ was far worse than Carter. Vietnam and Great Society
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (NuJm4)


For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)

335 Tami,
What sort of book were you looking for? Nancy Drews hold up pretty well. Encyclopedia Brown, too.
Is she mature enough for Sherlock Holmes? I think that's when I started reading them.
Does she read historical?

Posted by: artemis at December 15, 2019 12:17 PM (AwPyG)

336 Don't see much around from Carter left ...
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:13 PM


Iran?

Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 12:18 PM (r6GXX)

337 Oh, and nood.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:18 PM (qc+VF)

338 327 This doesn't sound good: Iran has moved tanks and armored vehicles into Iraq, apparently to quell anti-Iran protests.

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Tanks? Whatever happened to human wave attacks?

Bastichez have no respect for tradition!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:18 PM (XVuno)

339 We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)

---

Yes.

As well as in Kuwait.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (RU4sa)


Hopefully training all our NATO "allies" so they can do some of their share of heavy lifting.

Get in there, boys. Show 'em whatchoo gots!

Incidentally, from your hash it's obvious you are an agent of Pootin. We can get a FISA warrant on less evidence than that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:19 PM (hku12)

340 As the Colin Dexter work was mentioned earlier, I always thought it was amusing to imagine a real life Oxford at which college students and perfessers and housewives were killing and dying at the rate at which they were in the books. Why, Oxford would be as notorious as Detroit.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (hku12)

And Midsomer county would be even worse, murders always come in multiples there.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:20 PM (U7k5w)

341 In 1960 Nixon would have had to overturn the corrupt vote in both IL and TX. Low odds so he didn't fight it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)


I thought West Virginia was sketchy too.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 12:20 PM (y7DUB)

342 Yeah, I noticed.

Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (RU4sa)

343 I think Comey realizes he could be indicted very soon, so he needs to be *very careful* about the types of statements he makes, and deeds he admits to either knowing or doing, in public forums.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (zGtXn)


I don't think the cabal missed the IG's statement that he referred the whole lot to the DoJ for further investigation.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (1g7ch)

344 For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)

Absolutely correct! Jimmah set in motion the problems we have with Iran to this very day. He also caused the deaths of thousands in Central America by coddling commies and their allies.

He should be tried for crimes against humanity.

He has blood on his hands, and his demise will be celebrated by myself and others.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Z+IKu)

345 For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)


Helicopters crashing in the desert FTL.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (y7DUB)

346 Muse

RE: DEM voter fraud in 2020

I don't agree. The worst vote fraud (attempt) in 2016 was in Palm Beach County, FL. That longstanding scam has been taken off the board forever by Gov. Scott & a whole new team there.

I can't think of any other battleground state, other than FL, where the prospect of actual fraud seems probable.

Now... if illegal voting by foreign aliens is voter fraud, then yes, there's a lot of that, esp in CA. But neither that nor vote harvesting is usually defined as organized fraud.

Can you tell me in which states you suspect the DEM vote fraud will occur in 2020? Pls don't just say "all of them!" because that would just be venom.

Thanks to Gov. Scott, I submit there is likely to be less real old-fashioned ballot box hanky-panky.

There is only one reason federal prosecutors don't prosecute voting by illegal aliens, or voting by lawful permanent alien residents (LAPR's), both of which are federal crimes: they dread the fearful "voter suppression!" blowback. ICE agents usually give a verbal warning only when they run across this.

Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Cssks)

347 314 304; bluebell, comey needs a federal pound him in the ass prison. fuck jail. when he said he could find no intent with regards to hillary, he should have been hanged. that dude is a fucking traitor.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (KP5rU)

Sounds like his FBI assisted her in the destruction of evidence as well.

On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which were placed peculiarly

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)

348 On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which were placed peculiarly
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)

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Like the atom bomb, they had an extra.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:24 PM (XVuno)

349 On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face
lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which
were placed peculiarly
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)


I am waiting for the photoshop of the red spirals on her cheeks

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (1glZx)

350 Well they're not mystery or humerous, but the Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCafffrey might be of interest...

HMMV
Posted by: browndog at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (gD6Ka)

Especially some of the later ones, when Menolly(sp?) becomes the viewpoint character.

Posted by: Anla'shok at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (qyH+l)

351 I am waiting for the photoshop of the red spirals on her cheeks
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (1glZx)

I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)

352 Does anybody have recommendations pro or con for a conical burr type coffee grinder? Preferably under $100 or so.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (qc+VF)

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I'm also looking to replace my Krups burr grinder. The $70 Gourmia GCG205 looks okay. I got an Italian made manual grinder but will probably get the Gourmia too.

Posted by: Oggi at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (Bk5Q+)

353 I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)

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Some people find that Lollipop Guild look attractive. Hey, there's no accounting for taste.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (XVuno)

354
191 . . .
When I was in school, I quickly discovered that faculty often taught from older books, while assigning new ones. A trip to office hours always helps you find the real source of their lectures.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (U7k5w)



As a newly retired professor of computer science, I affirm the truth of this statement.

I di NOT like having to assigned expensive, newer editions when the good stuff was already well explained in older, cheaper editions

Posted by: sinmi at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (A5IVt)

355 I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)


Radiant as in exposed to Chernobyl level fissioning material.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (y7DUB)

356 I would throw away everything my mother has stored in hundreds of boxes in dry storage which she has moved unlooked-at to three different houses if not for the knowlege that in one of them is a pristine signed and dedicated (to my late father) 1st Edition of The Fountainhead.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (w7U7L)

357 Can you tell me in which states you suspect the DEM vote fraud will occur in 2020? Pls don't just say "all of them!" because that would just be venom.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Cssks)


Most likely the purplish states. The reason this is not venom is because the Dems declared war on PDT about 8 minutes after he was elected and the war has not let up since, not once.

And the shampeachment follies. If I told you back in 2017 that the Dems would be thinking of one impeachment scam after another to destroy Trump, would you have said it was just venom?.

Maybe you would. And maybe I would've agreed. Yet here we are.

Is there anything the Dems *won't* do to destroy Trump?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (zGtXn)

358 You left out Pratchett's Hogfather.

Posted by: iowaan at December 15, 2019 01:38 PM (f7co6)

359 So, this week I finished An Accidental Death by Peter Grainger, recommended on a Book Thread a few weeks ago. I really, really liked the protagonist, and while I liked the story, I didn't think the "mystery" was a very good one. But I'll read the next book, simply because I liked DC Smith so much.

I also finished a quick little Regency romance - which is what I read when the world and politics get me down. Needless to say, I have quite a few of those on my list of 2019 completed books. This one was A Governess for the Brooding Duke by Bridget Barton. Something makes me think someone on here mentioned it, but could that be true? Doesn't seem like it.

Also finished Dissolution, the first book in the Matthew Shardlake mystery series, set in Tudor England. Really, really liked the first entry in the series. It was a harsh look at the monasteries during the time they were being dissolved and (since I'm faithfully Catholic) that kind of got my goat a little. But I did like how the main character was so pro-reform in the beginning but began to see the bad side of Cromwell by the end. I liked that the hero didn't stay a wild-eyed "reform at all costs" guy.

I want to read the 2nd in the Shardlake series, but my library doesn't have the second book - though they have all the others in the series. That annoys me. What with Christmas and other personal matters, but $$ for buying are not available at the moment. And I don't really want to OWN it - I just want to READ it. I guess it will be Interlibrary Loan for me.

Currently reading The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides. I'm searching for suggestions for my IRL book club for next year. Recommended by a good friend, I'm not digging it as much as she did, apparently. I find most of the people yucky and unsympathetic. While I don't expect everything to be sunshine and roses in a book, I like to have *someone* to root for.

Well, that was more than you needed to know. I'm consoled by the fact that no one reads this far down!

Posted by: SummaMamaT, who is almost always last at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (84ClH)

360 A little late in suggestions, but I know a couple of just teenagers that really like Susan Cooper's Dark is Rising set of books. The first one is more of a setup and not that interesting, but the rest of them do a bang up job of pulling in a set of kids into Arthur legends and Wales legends. Even got a Newbery award years ago

Posted by: Charlotte at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (Aj6Tl)

361 Currently reading The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides. I'm searching for suggestions for my IRL book club for next year. Recommended by a good friend, I'm not digging it as much as she did, apparently. I find most of the people yucky and unsympathetic. While I don't expect everything to be sunshine and roses in a book, I like to have *someone* to root for.

Well, that was more than you needed to know. I'm consoled by the fact that no one reads this far down!
Posted by: SummaMamaT, who is almost always last at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (84ClH)

I guess I have little stomach for psychological thrillers at all. Unless the person is a psychiatrist or a psychology hospitalist, their knowledge base is generally inadequate for me. A friend told me about another psych centered book she was reading and asked me about the character's medication. The treatment made no sense and would have landed the facility in jeopardy. I also get the same vibe from most movies and television shows, and was so amazed by how well the wrong medications worked that I stopped watching this shit.

Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (U7k5w)

362 Regarding executions, part of the problem was that there was a lot of vengeance in the air. Payback is a bitch, etc. I think Payne notes that Franco won the bodybag sweepstakes because he won the war.

If he had lost, the Republic would definitely have outpaced his total and their killing would have gone on until their government collapsed, just like everywhere else the left takes power.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)

Franco killed the people that needed killing, then he pretty much stopped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 01:51 PM (Ol3ZL)

363 Tami--

If this isn't too late, I recommend "The Westing Game." I didn't read it until I was in my 50s, but it was recommended by two co-workers who read it when they were teenagers. It's a funny mystery and kind of quirky. I thought the heroine might be a bit young for a 13-y.o. but skimming the Amazon reviews, the appeal seems broader. Like me, many of the reviewers re-read it almost annually.

I also think (as someone suggested) Georgette Heyer would be fun, but at 13 I would have spurned them as too girly. (I'm a girl, but more nerdy than girly.)

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 15, 2019 02:26 PM (S+f+m)

364 That last picture has my Mom's old coffee grinder in the background! There was a time, when we were *dirt* poor, we used it to crack whole wheat kernels for mash for breakfast. I was Chief Grinder, so I remember it well...
Meanwhile, back at the Fiction Factory, I have successfully gotten my hero in a LOT of completely undeserved trouble, and he picked up a girl (literally!) from a rooftop by accident. And it isn't even chapter 5 yet (I'm not a vengeful god but I am very, very mischievous)

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (XK6Vj)

365 I have this burr grinder and love it... and oh look, it's on sale for Christmas!
https://preview.tinyurl.com/snobntc

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (0ReGO)

EMT 12/15/19

Happy Sunday Early Morning Thread.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




Comments

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1 Good morning Horde

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Happy Sunday!

Posted by: Bradford C. Dodds at December 15, 2019 06:03 AM (D0J4Y)

3 Good Morning again!

From the Babylon Bee

Middle East Leaders Working On Peace Plan For America

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:03 AM (vd8XM)

4 Got a cup and a lap cat, no breakfast yet

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:04 AM (ZCEU2)

5 G'mornin' Horde !


4 degrees, clear.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 06:08 AM (JwHjN)

6 On Boris Johnson's big win saw a comment somewhere that it's not as much people moving to the Tory party as Labour voters staying away. This could be the case here though I think President Trump is gaining voters from otherwise Democrat voters.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:11 AM (ZCEU2)

7 4 degrees, clear.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Whoa. Makes our 19 feel positively balmy

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:11 AM (vd8XM)

8 Hiya Skip !

How's the toe ?

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:12 AM (arJlL)

9 What's on the menu, Skip? I request egg poached in milk, all poured over thick cut toast, salt, and lots of pepper. Extra toast on the side. My breakfast comfort food.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:13 AM (Z/jzm)

10 Hiya MLii !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:13 AM (arJlL)

11 Willowed

Haven't started my Christnas baking yet. Stollen, biscotti, the best ever roll out sugar cookies, pecan fingers, praline strips, anise cookies are on the list of must-do.
Posted by: My life is insanity

I think MLiI will be inviting some cookie testers over shortly. Sign up now!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:14 AM (vd8XM)

12 "Middle East Leaders Working On Peace Plan For America "



Satire today; tomorrow ... ?

But srsly, last night on movie thread it occurred to me that the analogy seems apt:
Israelis / red state Americans are willing to live and let live if not attacked, paleswinians / commies cannot accept our existence on any terms and want to wipe us out.

Just an interesting sidelight on the problem, still pondering ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 06:14 AM (JwHjN)

13
Top 50!

Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 06:14 AM (RhBlM)

14 Mornin', JT.

I talked about cookies on the ONT, breakfast here. I think I am hungry!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:15 AM (Z/jzm)

15 Better, went to store yesterday, it's going to take a long time to get the slight swelling out. Trying to keep it elevated and did ice it twice yesterday so should keep doing that.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:15 AM (ZCEU2)

16 I bought sausage patties so planning pancakes

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:16 AM (ZCEU2)

17 paleswinians / commies cannot accept our existence on any terms and want to wipe us out.

No, you can stay, as long as you don't interfere, keep paying your taxes, give up your guns, and keep your mouths shut

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:16 AM (vd8XM)

18 I was worried in 2016 that the Democrats would co-opt Trump and bring out his NY liberal values.

Instead, they and the media have pushed him right, and he has embraced the Republicans more than I dreamed possible!

Keep it up CNN!

Posted by: Kortezzi at December 15, 2019 06:18 AM (UgFZj)

19 >>>I think MLiI will be inviting some cookie testers over shortly. Sign up now!
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:14 AM (vd8XM)

A cookie MoMe. This is the latest I've ever started baking. I pared down the list. Daughter said she's making some of the old stand-bys, so I can slack off!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:18 AM (Z/jzm)

20 I talked about cookies on the ONT, breakfast here. I think I am hungry!
Posted by: My life is insanity

Now, you've made ME hungry !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:19 AM (arJlL)

21 A cookie MoMe. This is the latest I've ever started baking. I pared down the list. Daughter said she's making some of the old stand-bys, so I can slack off!
Posted by: My life is insanity

My wife used to bake a bunch of different cookies. It's very labor intensive.
She switched to making candies about 5 years ago.
Butter toffee, peanut brittle, divinity, fudge, caramels. They are a lot easier for her.

I miss the cookies, but I do love the candy

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:20 AM (vd8XM)

22 Long ago my wife and a couple other women would have a cookie baking day, all bringing their favourites then sharing so there would be a dozen varieties.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:20 AM (ZCEU2)

23 Long ago my wife and a couple other women would have a cookie baking day, all bringing their favourites then sharing so there would be a dozen varieties.
Posted by: Skip

My wife used to go a cookie exchange with her friends.
A lot of fun for her, but then you find out that some of your friends do NOT know how to bake

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:22 AM (vd8XM)

24 americanthinker.com/what is going on at drudge report
It's saying they have lost 1/3 of its readers.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:22 AM (ZCEU2)

25 Long ago my wife and a couple other women would have a cookie baking day, all bringing their favourites then sharing so there would be a dozen varieties.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:20 AM (ZCEU2)




Not sure I would be down with that. Sounds like a good way to get a bunch of cookies I do not like.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:23 AM (HALdu)

26 I think it's been a few days I haven't seen Vic.
Yes, no?

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:23 AM (ZCEU2)

27 I read JJ's sidebar post on the Dem congressman not voting for impeachment, and thinking about switching parties.
The Dems are all Greta von Scoldyface....How Dare YOU!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:23 AM (vd8XM)

28 Nobody here to make me breakfast today. I have some cinnamon roll dough in the fridge from a co-worker's kid school-fundraiser. I guess that'll be kinda birthday-like. Was hoping that pineapple upside down cake was already made and here for breakfast...my kid was slacking, too!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:24 AM (Z/jzm)

29 The Dems are all Greta von Scoldyface....How Dare YOU!!
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:23 AM (vd8XM)



Klima Kriegfuhrer or Klimafuhrer, trying to decide which I like better.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:24 AM (HALdu)

30 >>But srsly, last night on movie thread it occurred to me that the analogy seems apt:Israelis / red state Americans are willing to live and let live if
not attacked, paleswinians / commies cannot accept our existence on any
terms and want to wipe us out.


Yeah, well look at Bernie's 2020 campaign (e.g. Linda Sarsour, Bernie's just endorsed Armenian Christian genocide-denier Cenk Uygar), and what some of his top 2016 staffers created: Justice Democrats, the party that gave us Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib --- but also ran (unsuccessfully) a Palestinian-American guy whose grandfather was the mastermind of the Black September attacks. There is a legit US Socialist-Muslim radical alliance.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 06:25 AM (bDqIh)

31 Cookies you don't like?
Maybe cookies you don't like as much as others

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:25 AM (ZCEU2)

32 I think it's been a few days I haven't seen Vic.
Yes, no?
Posted by: Skip

I was wondering too.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:25 AM (vd8XM)

33 Mom used to make a cashew brittle. Heaven.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:26 AM (Z/jzm)

34 CNN's analyst, Cedric Leighton is on television right now saying what a mistake withdrawing troops from Afghanistan would be. He was even confronted with the recent reporting about the American people being lied to and actually said "mistakes were made!"
How do we take any of these assholes seriously anymore?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at December 15, 2019 06:26 AM (vGJY7)

35 Well Happy Birthday ML2! 29 again today?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 15, 2019 06:27 AM (YqED9)

36 americanthinker.com/what is going on at drudge report
It's saying they have lost 1/3 of its readers.

Hmmm.......wonder where they went ?

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:27 AM (arJlL)

37 Cookies you don't like?
Maybe cookies you don't like as much as others
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:25 AM (ZCEU2)




No, cookies I don't like. We make all the Christmas cookies I like. If there was another cookie I liked I would make them.

Who wants to look in the cookie tin and decide whether or not I should eat the cookies I don't like to get them out of the way or have a cookie I like and deal with the detritus some other time?

Besides, as noted above, not all bakers are good.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:28 AM (HALdu)

38 Cookies you don't like?
Maybe cookies you don't like as much as others
Posted by: Skip

Not really. Some people do not know how to bake. it's sad, because it is time consuming.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:28 AM (vd8XM)

39 And no, Vic's been in every morning, pretty much.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 15, 2019 06:28 AM (YqED9)

40 HAPPY BIRTHDAY MLii !!!!

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:29 AM (arJlL)

41 Well I woke up Sunday morning...

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 06:29 AM (JFO2v)

42 I like his columns, very often insightful stuff
https://www.thediplomad.com/
BREXIT Redux: the Dude Punches Back

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:29 AM (ZCEU2)

43 MLII, Happy Birthday. Hope your pineapple upside-down cake is delivered soon.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 15, 2019 06:29 AM (7EjX1)

44 ML2 = MLII = My life is insanity, btw.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (YqED9)

45 americanthinker.com/what is going on at drudge report
It's saying they have lost 1/3 of its readers.

Hmmm.......wonder where they went ?
Posted by: JT at December



They changed their advertising from the company they had used since its founding to some company owned by a chick that is the wife of some goog bigwig.

There are some rumors that Drudge took the money and ran and is out of the thing altogether.

You have to wonder why anyone wold buy Drudge and let him leave, he is the franchise.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (HALdu)

46 HB - good, sometimes don't see a tree in the forest
How is your family holding up?

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (ZCEU2)

47 Who wants to look in the cookie tin and decide whether or not I should eat the cookies I don't like to get them out of the way or have a cookie I like and deal with the detritus some other time?

Heh. Cookies we didn't like would get thrown out. My wife and I would say, It's not worth the calories

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

48 Thank you, HB. Yes!

Well, 29 is close.


Add 30 and you'll be right there.


Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (Z/jzm)

49 ML2 = MLII = My life is insanity, btw.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (YqED9)



So you do not have two MiLs?

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:31 AM (HALdu)

50 And no, Vic's been in every morning, pretty much.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch

I'll have to tune in sooner

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:31 AM (vd8XM)

51 Heh. Cookies we didn't like would get thrown out. My wife and I would say, It's not worth the calories
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:30 AM (vd8XM)




My great grand mother used to bake unbelievable amounts and varieties of cookies every year. Even as good as they were, and there was nothing that was not wonderfully executed, some tasted better than others. And the others were rattling around in the bottom of the tin in February.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:33 AM (HALdu)

52 I haven't confirmed it but my mom said my dad was coming home yesterday, needed to get oxygen first. Will get over there today.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:33 AM (ZCEU2)

53 One was enough!

Just kidding, my mother in law was ok

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:33 AM (Z/jzm)

54 Good news, Skip!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:33 AM (Z/jzm)

55 Drudge without Drudge is the same as the HQ without Ace, nothing.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:34 AM (HALdu)

56
I'm binge watching Batman and Holy Shit Sticks, Robin, it's a guest character overdose!

We get...The Green Hornet and Kato! (real deal Van Williams and Bruce Lee).

That Mudd guy from Star Wars!

AAAANNNDD....dafuq? Rex Reed?
Rex Reed!!!!

Hornet and Batman both wanna throw a bone in Miss Pinkston, who employs Mudd!!! What could go wrong?

Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 06:35 AM (RhBlM)

57 I haven't confirmed it but my mom said my dad was coming home yesterday, needed to get oxygen first. Will get over there today.
Posted by: Skip

Hopeful news!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:35 AM (vd8XM)

58 > This could be the case here though I think President Trump is gaining voters from otherwise Democrat voters.

I think you are right. I don't know even one person who voted for Trump in 2016 who's not voting for him in 2020. I DO know people who didn't vote for him, or who voted for him reluctantly, who will be voting for him enthusiastically next time.

> The Dems are all Greta von Scoldyface

And that little girl grew up to be Rosa Klebb.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 06:38 AM (WsmTT)

59 I've had two MiL's, both now gone to their final reward. One Sicilian, one British, both naturalized.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch, International Man of Mystery at December 15, 2019 06:38 AM (YqED9)

60 And the others were rattling around in the bottom of the tin in February.
Posted by: not so

My dad wouldn't care, as long as he had coffee to dunk it in.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

61 You think these cheeks are puffy? JUST WAIT TIL YOU SEE MY OTHER ONES, AMERICA! HAHAHAHAHA

*racking cough*

Posted by: HRC at December 15, 2019 06:39 AM (ldmQR)

62 My dad wouldn't care, as long as he had coffee to dunk it in.
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)



Same

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:39 AM (HALdu)

63 Morning all.

While preparing breakfast i asked myself, "bacon or sausage?"

then I remembered what I was taught here - embrace the power of "and"

Posted by: weew at December 15, 2019 06:40 AM (gk7if)

64 morng yall.

Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall". What she meant to say was "put on trains".

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 06:40 AM (Tnijr)

65 Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall". What she meant to say was "put on trains".
Posted by: freaked

And then a brisk shower, to wake them up

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:41 AM (vd8XM)

66 > Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall".

As I said on the ONT, it's the same thing as when I say that communists should be thrown out of helicopters.

Just a translation error, from Chilean Spanish.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 06:41 AM (WsmTT)

67 Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall". What she meant to say was "put on trains".

What she REALLY meant was "Put upon by trannys"

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:42 AM (arJlL)

68 I'm becoming convinced that the Dem's won't get more than about 40% of the presidential vote in November.


I don't think Trump gets the full 60% (because Dem third-party protest voters for Green, Socialist, etc.), but probably 55% or so. Wipeout.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 15, 2019 06:42 AM (YqED9)

69 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 06:44 AM (O4024)

70 >>My dad wouldn't care, as long as he had coffee to dunk it in.
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

Cookies you can dunk are the best. But dad definitely cared that they were "good" ones

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:47 AM (Z/jzm)

71 This is pretty cool. Gingerbread replica of Notre Dame. No flames shooting out the top though:

https://tinyurl.com/ttq3hlp

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 06:47 AM (Tnijr)

72 Ok, so far I've got...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Mlii!!!

Mmmm, Christmas cookies.

Skip needs to take it easier on his foot/toe thing.

And interesting "drops" yesterday.
Shiftless given a hard time yesterday in home district (embedded tweet in drop 3677? )
Laura I is a Qtard?,, as someone here referred to us a few days ago.

Every day is one day closer.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 06:48 AM (cdo+X)

73 Stolen biscotti is the best biscotti.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 15, 2019 06:49 AM (0GvUH)

74 Of course, Trump's popularity (like the Tea Party movement) will attract lots of opportunistic weasels running in GOP primaries for the House and Senate. Looks like some of that going on here in NC already. But We Won't Get Fooled Again!
(No offense intended to Slapweasel, Weasel, Stoaty Weasel, Badger, or any other of our esteemed mustelids.)

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 15, 2019 06:50 AM (YqED9)

75 Wow! 7 foot tall gingerbread Notre Dame? That had to be a challenge. Wonder how many parts were broken and eaten in the making

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:51 AM (Z/jzm)

76 Stolen biscotti is the best biscotti.

Until Fat Tony falls on ya !

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:51 AM (arJlL)

77 I see where the ArmyNavy white-power gesture is all the rage this morning.

that's it, you idiot leftist trolls.


Keep f'n that chicken.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 06:51 AM (O4024)

78 "This is pretty cool. Gingerbread replica of Notre Dame. No flames shooting out the top though:

*lights match*

Posted by: Mohammedan at December 15, 2019 06:51 AM (ldmQR)

79 Sorry, Laura I in drop 3670.
Hope I've got those two numbers correct.
Only about a quarter way into first cup so...

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 06:53 AM (cdo+X)

80 Gotta run to the supermarket and get back for the Book Thread.

I hope you have a GREAT DAY MLii !

Once again, HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!!

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 06:53 AM (arJlL)

81 3,000-year-old trees excavated from under Icelandic glacier! Retarded-child sacrifice also discovered -- may have suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome. (I may have made up that last bit.) See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2019 06:53 AM (Dh1wo)

82 Those cinnamon rolls aren't going to bake themselves. Better get moving.

Thanks all, for the birthday wishes!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:55 AM (Z/jzm)

83 telegraph.co.uk/women/boriss win proves soul nation tact proudcountry has done
https://tinyurl.com/vuujuax

I do hope so, there is a striking resemblance betwen us after all.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:55 AM (ZCEU2)

84 Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall".

--

Thank goodness that it can all be forgotten since she's got the proper religious beliefs. It will be like the little communist never even said what she actually said.

You know, like when Trump said "she was so dumb and angry she had blood coming out of her vagina" and "I love to sexually abuse women by grabbing their p*ssies."

But now Greta never said this thing she actually said.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 15, 2019 06:56 AM (Xv8ep)

85 americanthinker.com/what is going on at drudge report
It's saying they have lost 1/3 of its readers.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:22 AM (ZCEU2)

--

My money is on Salem.

Hotair is probably looking with burning rage at a site keeping 2/3rds of its readers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 15, 2019 06:58 AM (Xv8ep)

86 I took my boys to participate in the wreaths across America yesterday. I warned all not to drink the hot chocolate. It is bad

Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 06:58 AM (nonGu)

87 " 3,000-year-old trees excavated from under Icelandic glacier"

The last paragraph in the linked article is very interesting.

From a scientific standpoint.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 06:59 AM (O4024)

88 "have a cookie I like and deal with the detritus some other time?

Besides, as noted above, not all bakers are good.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 06:28 AM (HALdu) "




Never seen a cookie so bad that some bird or squirrel didn't like it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 07:01 AM (JwHjN)

89 3,000-year-old trees excavated from under Icelandic glacier! Retarded-child sacrifice also discovered -- may have suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome. (I may have made up that last bit.) See the sock link.
Posted by: andycanuck

See!! Climate change even 3000 years ago, dogs and cats sleeping together...ummmm ORANGEMANBAD

Send more money
XOX
The Maldives

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:01 AM (vd8XM)

90 I even though Greta apologized for "The Wall" Comment, I still wonder what she meant by the "Trains". Shipped north to Siberia?

Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 07:02 AM (nonGu)

91 66 > Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall".

That is to say, her keepers, realizing she came too close to revealing innermost totalitarian longings, instructed her to apologize.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:02 AM (H8QX8)

92 Dobroe ytro from the One Party State morons.

Thinking of Vic, haven't seen VNN in a while.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2019 07:03 AM (EZebt)

93 That is to say, her keepers, realizing she came too close to revealing innermost totalitarian longings, instructed her to apologize.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

Then had to teach her what an "apology" was

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:03 AM (vd8XM)

94 #87 For those not link-hitters...

The simple reality is that glaciers worldwide expanded enormously during the
Little Ice Age, arguably to their greatest extent since the Ice Age.
Despite decades of retreat since the 19thC, they are still abnormally
large by historical standards.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2019 07:04 AM (Dh1wo)

95 That is to say, her keepers, realizing she came too close to revealing innermost totalitarian longings, instructed her to apologize.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice





Klimafuhrer

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 07:05 AM (HALdu)

96 Impeachment has literally disappeared from the news.


I wonder why?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 15, 2019 07:05 AM (JUOKG)

97 That is to say, her keepers, realizing she came too
close to revealing innermost totalitarian longings, instructed her to
apologize.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice



Then had to teach her what an "apology" was



Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:03 AM

---

She didn't "apologize", she said it was an error in translation. That was not an apology.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 15, 2019 07:06 AM (JUOKG)

98 VIA, In Summerville? Any luck in finding new home?

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 15, 2019 07:06 AM (7EjX1)

99 She didn't "apologize", she said it was an error in translation. That was not an apology.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 15, 2019 07:06 AM (JUOKG)




Arbeit macht frei, sometimes things get lost in translation.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 07:07 AM (HALdu)

100 The simple reality is that glaciers worldwide expanded enormously during the
Little Ice Age, arguably to their greatest extent since the Ice Age.
Despite decades of retreat since the 19thC, they are still abnormally
large by historical standards.
Posted by: andycanuck

We have room on the train for that Deplorable!!

First Class. That means you get to stand next to the shithole

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:07 AM (vd8XM)

101 "That is to say, her keepers, realizing she came too close to revealing innermost totalitarian longings, instructed her to apologize."


Pretty much.

Any collection of individuals can be evaluated by whom they chose to identify as their thought leader, or leaders.

In this case...She's a 16 years old, High School drop out with Aspergers, and a belief that she possesses superpowers, just might want to give the Left pause to consider their choice of leader.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:07 AM (O4024)

102 The simple reality is that glaciers worldwide expanded enormously during the
Little Ice Age, arguably to their greatest extent since the Ice Age.
Despite decades of retreat since the 19thC, they are still abnormally
large by historical standards.
Posted by: andycanuck




The Klimafuhrer is not going to reject nuking the glaciers because sometimes you have to destroy the climate to save the climate.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 07:08 AM (HALdu)

103 She didn't "apologize", she said it was an error in translation. That was not an apology.
Posted by: Mr. Scott

We didn't say it. If we said it we didn't mean it.

If it's written down anywhere, our twatter/farcebook account was hacked

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:09 AM (vd8XM)

104 Mmmmm Batman is on right now.
Julie Newmar as Catwoman....

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:10 AM (vd8XM)

105 Brian Stelter
Brian Stelter Retweeted Donald J. Trump
Our daily reminder that Fox and Friends has a serious responsibility. And yet this morning Fox told the prez that the dossier was made up

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 07:10 AM (JFO2v)

106 "I still wonder what she meant by the "Trains". Shipped north to Siberia?"

Disneyboden

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:10 AM (Tnijr)

107 "In Summerville? Any luck in finding new home?"

Just finished putting all our Household goods in storage here yesterday.

Not much n the market right now, but we are in no rush to settle for whatever comes along. So we will look around some more at communities, butane normal expectation of finding anything this trip.

Then back to Baltimore to look remotely while we stay at my MiL's for a while.

But it's amazing.
The difference in folk between here and Baltimore is absolutely amazing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:12 AM (O4024)

108 Disneyboden
Posted by: freaked

It's a small world (that we want to rule) after all...

Everybody sing!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:12 AM (vd8XM)

109 Didn't know dr. jill was running for president too. And even defending the loser son.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 07:12 AM (MTxDQ)

110 It will be one fine day when DeNiro drops dead. I didn't care how good he is at play acting, I will never go see that asshole in anything.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:12 AM (Tnijr)

111 WTF

@GQMagazine
Why the codpiece remains one of menswears most essential accessories

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 07:13 AM (JFO2v)

112 Wow...

Auto-cucumber still continues to haunt my postings, even down here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:13 AM (O4024)

113 @GQMagazine
Why the codpiece remains one of menswears most essential accessories
Posted by: rhennigantx

Playing football?

Or just in case you get kicked in the cod.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:14 AM (vd8XM)

114 But srsly, last night on movie thread it occurred to me that the analogy seems apt:
Israelis / red state Americans are willing to live and let live if not attacked, paleswinians / commies cannot accept our existence on any terms and want to wipe us out.

Just an interesting sidelight on the problem, still pondering ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 06:14 AM


Forget left/right, etc. It comes down to people who want to control other people, and those who have no such desire.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 07:14 AM (DMUuz)

115 Auto-cucumber still continues to haunt my postings, even down here.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

We will fund ewe!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:14 AM (vd8XM)

116 It comes down to people who want to control other people, and those who have no such desire.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere

I would like to, but it seems like a lot of work for me

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:15 AM (vd8XM)

117 Or just in case you get kicked in the cod.
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:14 AM


Which can lead to floundering about.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 07:15 AM (DMUuz)

118 I would like to, but it seems like a lot of work for me
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:15 AM


That's why minions exist.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 07:17 AM (DMUuz)

119 The Babylon Bee explains common racist hand signals!
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/
1206072280092049410

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2019 07:18 AM (Dh1wo)

120 Or just in case you get kicked in the cod.
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:14 AM

Which can lead to floundering about.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere

I just looked it up. Codpiece was from middle English meaning scrotum.

A new nick for Tater

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:18 AM (vd8XM)

121 I read an email from my dad yesterday written by a instructor at Pensacola. He said that the Saudi students were mostly sons of Sheiks and such and the most unruly students there. They skate by and the instructors are not allowed to reprimand them.

At least 10 other Saudis knew of the plan ahead of time and did nothing. Some allies huh?

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:18 AM (Tnijr)

122 So Joe Biden is gonna be a grandfather again.

Somebody might want to consider getting Hunter fixed, and micro-chipped.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:19 AM (O4024)

123 Greta is the 1 in 1,000 who probably believes her crap because she never has know anything else but what she has been told about global warming.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 07:19 AM (ZCEU2)

124
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2019 07:19 AM (AHWpc)

125 How many teenaged activists does it take to change the world?

Only one, but it has to really WANT to change.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 07:19 AM (m45I2)

126 guten morgen horden

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 07:20 AM (G546f)

127 >>Greta has apologized for saying politicians should be put "against the wall". What she meant to say was "put on trains".

Heh. exactly. It wasn't a translation error, it was an 'oops I repeated something in public that my eco activist parents, handlers and I say in private.'

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 07:20 AM (bDqIh)

128 I get a bit of schadenfreude considering the"Llost Generation" of activists; those in their 40's now, who patiently waited for the flower child generation to pass the torch, only to find it had been passed to the Hoggs and Thunderbunnies instead of them.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 07:22 AM (m45I2)

129 New Dem bill restores SALT deduction for richest 10% of taxpayers. I luv me some progressivism!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 07:22 AM (JFO2v)

130 Yeah Vic has been over @ Skips every morn suckin' sore toes and dipping his dough balls in strong coffee while the cookies crumble.NO NOT THAT NOW!!!!!!

REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED.

upside down pineapple cake is not what you think it is.................................

Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 07:23 AM (5IHGB)

131 111 WTF

@GQMagazine
Why the codpiece remains one of menswears most essential accessories
Posted by: rhennigantx



Interesting. Taking fashion que's from the movie The Clockwork Orange.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 15, 2019 07:23 AM (ce3ya)

132 You need a codpiece if you are a cod-carrying member ofTthe Horde.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 07:24 AM (m45I2)

133 >>Greta is the 1 in 1,000 who probably believes her crap because she never
has know anything else but what she has been told about global warming.


It is so much worse than that. She has autism, OCD, anxiety, depression and thanks to her mom's eco activism, she know believes that the environmental crises caused her autism and other maladies. So she doesn't see the environmental "crisis" as a bystander, she believes harming the planning is harming her personally. She is very messed up, and the adults who are encouraging this are abusing her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxqwrgft

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 07:25 AM (bDqIh)

134 A codpiece can keep your recently attached junk from falling off.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:26 AM (Tnijr)

135 Llost => Lost

Macular degeneration is a hell of a thing.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 07:26 AM (m45I2)

136 "Interesting. Taking fashion que's from the movie The Clockwork Orange."

There were several documentaries from that period which the Left loves to look toward for guidance.

Clockwork Orange
1984

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:26 AM (O4024)

137 I hear that Trump is considering skipping presidential debates because it's a rigged deal. I agree. Demand C-Span produce and moderate or they can all go to hell.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:26 AM (H8QX8)

138 Almost forgot..

Fahrenheit 451

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:28 AM (O4024)

139 You need a codpiece if you are a cod-carrying member ofTthe Horde.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 07:24 AM


So, interesting origami for us cardboard cod-carrying members ahead?

Greta shudders.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 07:28 AM (DMUuz)

140 1. Trump is trying to pick up black voters

2. This will divert black votes from Democrats

3. Anything that diverts black votes from Democrats is voter suppression

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 07:28 AM (JFO2v)

141

What can I say boss?
I tried.
I know you guys saw it.
Well, at least there is a remnant here.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 07:28 AM (e5f4b)

142 A codpiece can keep your recently attached junk from falling off.
Posted by: freaked


********

Gird your tenderloins.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 07:29 AM (m45I2)

143 I hear that Trump is considering skipping presidential debates because it's a rigged deal. I agree. Demand C-Span produce and moderate or they can all go to hell.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

He said he would attend, as long as he can use the "you're so full of shit your eyes are brown" at least 3 times during each debate

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:31 AM (vd8XM)

144

Nailed it at 133, Lizzy.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 07:31 AM (e5f4b)

145 A codpiece can keep your recently attached junk from falling off.
Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:26 AM


Can you use it for the recently detached?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Caitlyn at December 15, 2019 07:31 AM (DMUuz)

146 " 1. Trump is trying to pick up black voters "

I don't know if he is simply trying to pick up black voters in a normal political sense.

Or if he simply desires to break the chains which bind them to the Democratic party, and a continuing existence of slavery and government dependency.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:32 AM (O4024)

147 Gird your tenderloins.
Posted by: Muldoon

You'll go blind, or at the least, need glasses!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:32 AM (vd8XM)

148 Tenderloins stole my childhood.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at December 15, 2019 07:34 AM (EgshT)

149 He said he would attend, as long as he can use the "you're so full of shit your eyes are brown" at least 3 times during each debate
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:31 AM


"But I drank methylthioninium chloride before the debate. Don't it make my brown eyes blue?"

Posted by: Democratic Candidate at December 15, 2019 07:36 AM (DMUuz)

150 "But I drank methylthioninium chloride before the debate. Don't it make my brown eyes blue?"
Posted by: Democratic Candidate

It could make your brown eye blue.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:37 AM (vd8XM)

151 Morning all...

For those following the 'Reggie saga' (rickl's cat), I have an update from Linda (rick's sister):

Hi Tami,

Reggie the elusive cat was finally captured! We did find a small, no kill shelter (and they promised that they NEVER kill the animal, he will live out his life there if he is never adopted). We gave a $500 donation to care for him the rest of his life if needed, which I feel is a wonderful bargain. But if you would care to distribute the remainder of Rick's fund to them, they may be nice, because this feisty boy may live several years with them.

They are called Cats Bridge to Rescue. The website is catsbridge.org and you can mention to them its for Reggie (in memory of Rick). I think Rick would be pleased to know that Reggie will be safe and loved for the rest of his life.

I hope you and your band of "morons" have a blessed and joyous Christmas season, and a New Year filled with happiness.

Blessings,
Linda


I'll be sending the remaining money from Rick's meal acct to them ($220). I've already made a donation of $250 to Toys for Tots. If anyone else is so inclined, please feel free to make a donation to the rescue.

Note on the donation it's for 'Reggie's care, in memory of Rickl'.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 07:37 AM (cF8AT)

152 "Construction began Friday on the future Harvey Milk, a fleet oiler named for the slain gay rights leader and the first openly gay man elected in the state."

Is it possible to get the name changed? I imagine there would be an uproar from the homo mafia, and It would be fabulous.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:38 AM (Tnijr)

153 Is it possible to get the name changed? I imagine there would be an uproar from the homo mafia, and It would be fabulous.
Posted by: freaked

The Milk Dud?

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:39 AM (vd8XM)

154 >>@GQMagazine

Why the codpiece remains one of menswears most essential accessories

Posted by: rhennigantx
Seems sort of toxically masculine. . .?
*checks wikipedia*
subculture attire --- A jock strap is another protective article of clothing that resembles a codpiece. Imitations of them made of leather may be worn in leather subculture attire to cover and confine the genitals of a man, sometimes while wearing leather chaps.
Rather than accentuating the male genitalia through exaggeration of the
size of the wearer's penis and testicles, attention may be drawn to the
genital area through decorative adornment such as metallic studs in
such articles of clothing.

Chaps?!
Ah, now I get it, why gay fashion designers would tell us codpieces are an essential accessory.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 07:39 AM (bDqIh)

155 Only presidential debates I have heard about DJT is there is no point to a Republican primary. You couldn't make me believe he wouldn't love to go at the Democrats.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 07:39 AM (ZCEU2)

156 Tami...


Thank you for that update on Reggie.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:39 AM (O4024)

157 Snap, crackle and pop. The three things my body says every morning

Good Morning, Hordelings

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2019 07:39 AM (V3fhb)

158 That's the feel good story of the morning Tami. I'm sure rickl is smiling. Thank you Tami and Linda.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:40 AM (Tnijr)

159 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 15, 2019 07:41 AM (cknjq)

160 Only presidential debates I have heard about DJT is there is no point to a Republican primary. You couldn't make me believe he wouldn't love to go at the Democrats.
Posted by: Skip

Shifty Shiff has said Trump! can be there, but will not be allowed to speak

So it is written, so it is done

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:41 AM (vd8XM)

161 Codpieces are the 'circle game' of an earlier and more innocent time.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:41 AM (O4024)

162 Can I wear a codpiece with mistletoe on it to work this Friday?

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:42 AM (vd8XM)

163 Morning mouth breathing is the worst mouth breathing.

Posted by: eleven at December 15, 2019 07:43 AM (M0u+N)

164 Great news, Tami! Glad to hear Reggie is safe and well cared for.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 07:43 AM (bDqIh)

165 If Trump does debate, the first thing he should do is list the moderator's involvement in Democratic politics, i.e. Chuck Todd's democrat consultant wife, Chris Cuomo's brother, Candy Crowley's defense of Obama, Stephanopoulos's loyal service to the Clinton's. etc. They would be spluttering in outrage so hard they wouldn't be able to ask any questions.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 07:43 AM (IttZ7)

166 You're welcome VIA and freaked!

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 07:45 AM (cF8AT)

167 Can I wear a codpiece with mistletoe on it to work this Friday?
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:42 AM (vd8XM)


If not, then the terrorists have already won.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 07:45 AM (fBFz0)

168 Bing has an interesting pic today. A snowy Ardennes. 75 years after the Battle of the Bulge

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:45 AM (vd8XM)

169 If not, then the terrorists have already won.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby

Then I'm going to un-retire, and go find a job!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:46 AM (vd8XM)

170 Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 07:37 AM (cF8AT)

Bless you dear Lady!

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 07:47 AM (MTxDQ)

171 Looking at our 10 day forecast. No snows expected and temps in the mid 30 thru Christmas.
That'll make it easier to get around

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:48 AM (vd8XM)

172 "She doesn't see the environmental crisis as a bystander, she believes harming the planet is harming her personally"

This! A couple of nights ago my husband got curious as to who this Greta Thundberg was and looked up some of her talks on You Tube. Long story short... while we don't agree with her at all, I can kinda understand where she's coming from since I have Asperger traits myself, and when I was her age, I took what people said literally and was very prone to expecting the worst. I used to be so afraid of tornadoes that I would be literally sick to my stomach whenever there was a tornado watch or severe thunderstorms in the forecast. I can only imagine how I would have felt if I had been subjected to the global warming propaganda machine to the extent she has.

One thing she said that actually made sense was that if the politicians and scientists who SAY global warming is a threat to life as we know it really believed it, they would act as if it were an emergency and talk about nothing else. We see the disconnect between their rhetoric and actions as evidence that their rhetoric is bullshit; she sees it as evidence that they aren't being serious enough about a real threat. In any event I feel rather sorry for her and would rather save my anger/hatred for her parents and other adults who are obviously taking advantage of her.

Posted by: Secret Square at December 15, 2019 07:48 AM (9WuX0)

173 "A codpiece can keep your recently attached junk from falling off.

Can you use it for the recently detached?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Caitlyn"

That would be a tunapiece.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:49 AM (Tnijr)

174 I saw the Richard Jewell movie last night. What was the name of the WaPo reporter skeeze that screwed the FIB guy?

Posted by: clutch at December 15, 2019 07:49 AM (+mbOC)

175 Thanks, Tami for letting us know. I've had that cat on my mind for days. Good to know he's been found a safe place.

Linda, if you are checking in, be sure to say hi. I sure miss your brother's updates .

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 07:49 AM (Z/jzm)

176 I'll be sending the remaining money from Rick's meal acct to them
($220). I've already made a donation of $250 to Toys for Tots.


Very cool and well done, Tami. Linda seems like a real peach.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2019 07:50 AM (EgshT)

177 174 I saw the Richard Jewell movie last night. What was the name of the WaPo reporter skeeze that screwed the FIB guy?
Posted by: clutch at December 15, 2019 07:49 AM (+mbOC)

It was an AJC reporter Kathy Skruggs

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 07:52 AM (JFO2v)

178 174 I saw the Richard Jewell movie last night.
Posted by: clutch at December 15, 2019 07:49 AM (+mbOC)

How was it?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:54 AM (H8QX8)

179 As someone smarter than I observed, if your local politicians are talking about the "climate emergency", you can bet there's a gazillion other things they aren't talking about, namely things they are supposed to be talking about, but they surely don't want to.

Often as not, they (or at least the policies they champion) are the proximate cause, not the solution. If they are talking about fine-tuning the weather a hundred years from now, rest assured your city is fooked.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 15, 2019 07:54 AM (hptIz)

180 I saw a brown wet spot on the carpet next to doggeh's bed this morning

"oh no! no, how could you! you never have accidents"

but cleaning it up I realized it wasn't doggeh - it must have been water dripping frrom the wheels of KTY's rolling suitcase sunce she stood it there last night

Poor doggeh's been framed!

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 07:56 AM (G546f)

181 175 Thanks, Tami for letting us know. I've had that cat on my mind for days. Good to know he's been found a safe place.

Linda, if you are checking in, be sure to say hi. I sure miss your brother's updates .

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 07:49 AM (Z/jzm)

I saw you mentioned something about 'the best ever sugar cookie' on the ONT. Would you be willing to
share the recipe?

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 07:57 AM (cF8AT)

182 Thank you, Tami, for the Reggie update. When Rick first discovered he was seriously ill, he seemed more concerned w the care of his kitty than himself. It is wonderful that Linda found some loving cat ppl to care for him.

And, thank you, again, Tami, for all you have done.

Posted by: EveR at December 15, 2019 07:57 AM (R0z7P)

183 >>We see the disconnect between their rhetoric and actions as evidence
that their rhetoric is bullshit; she sees it as evidence that they
aren't being serious enough about a real threat. In any event I feel
rather sorry for her and would rather save my anger/hatred for her
parents and other adults who are obviously taking advantage of her.


Well said.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 07:57 AM (bDqIh)

184 OMGosh, the cutest cats pictured on that website for the organization that took in rickls cat! I could easily become "that cat lady"!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 07:57 AM (Z/jzm)

185 I have no interest in or capacity for feeling pity for Greta. It's a useless emotion at this point. She's playing on a large stage and attempting to wield coercive power -- emotional and otherwise -- over millions of people. She needs to be discredited.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:58 AM (H8QX8)

186 Right sidebar shows a DEM planning to switch to Rep. What, other than opportunism, does that historically show for a switch hitters voting record?
Faithful like a mutt finding a home, or are we talking Arlen Specter/Charlie Crist/Justin Amash here?

Posted by: Downcast at December 15, 2019 07:58 AM (1PYHw)

187 but cleaning it up I realized it wasn't doggeh - it must have been water dripping frrom the wheels of KTY's rolling suitcase sunce she stood it there last night


Makes note to self, get 20 roller suitcases...

...Shillary...

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:59 AM (vd8XM)

188 >>I saw you mentioned something about 'the best ever sugar cookie' on the ONT. Would you be willing to
share the recipe?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 07:57 AM (cF8AT)

Yes! It was my great grandma's recipe. (Don't know where she got it.) I will post it on the food thread

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 07:59 AM (Z/jzm)

189 I saw the Richard Jewell movie last night.

My local rag online has a review - Politics get in way of compelling story in Clint Eastwood's 'Richard Jewell'. I just shook my head at the cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2019 08:00 AM (EgshT)

190 Can I wear a codpiece with mistletoe on it to work this Friday?
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:42 AM


T'ain't a good idea.

Posted by: Your HR Director at December 15, 2019 08:00 AM (DMUuz)

191 Can I wear a codpiece with mistletoe on it to work this Friday?
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:42 AM

T'ain't a good idea.
Posted by: Your HR Director

For you, I'll wear it backwards

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:01 AM (vd8XM)

192 Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 07:47 AM (MTxDQ)

Thanks but I think Linda and rickl's neighbor deserve the thanks. That neighbor has been taking care of rick's cat since he went to the hospital the last time...and all the times before that too. I was kinda hoping she would take the cat but Linda said she was unable to take Reggie. She didn't elaborate on why.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 08:01 AM (cF8AT)

193 190 Can I wear a codpiece with mistletoe on it to work this Friday?
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 07:42 AM

Technically the mistletoe would need to be over it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:01 AM (H8QX8)

194 Thank you Lord for another day.

More Tami's and less Greta's, please.

Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 08:02 AM (D46E0)

195 I hear that Trump is considering skipping presidential debates because it's a rigged deal.
_________________

He should do at least one, and especially if Buttgig is the nominee, so people can see how Trump towers over the pathetic Dim.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 15, 2019 08:02 AM (k4dH2)

196 thank you Tami
been wondering about rickl's cat

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:02 AM (G546f)

197 Dan Smoot, I highly recommend Richard Jewell, it seems like Clint gets better and better.

No, the name of the WaPo skeeze, not AJC, wasn't it Allie something? I'm asking because local Fox says reporters screwing for stories never happens.

Posted by: clutch at December 15, 2019 08:03 AM (+mbOC)

198 Yes! It was my great grandma's recipe. (Don't know where she got it.) I will post it on the food thread

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 07:59 AM (Z/jzm)

YAY! Thank you!

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 08:03 AM (cF8AT)

199 Yes! It was my great grandma's recipe. (Don't know where she got it.) I will post it on the food thread
Posted by: My life is insanity

When I mentioned before that some don't know how to bake. A number of times, some of the women at the cookie exchange would show up with the Sugar Cookie in a Tube cookies. Maybe the would decorate them.
Sorry ladies, not a Christmas cookie

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:03 AM (vd8XM)

200 Trump should get a truly neutral 3rd party to run a debate
didn't the League of Women Voters used to do ut?

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:04 AM (G546f)

201 Whoa, this bright yellow thing is in the sky. Gotta make the doughnuts while the makin' is good.

Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 08:04 AM (D46E0)

202 Journalists have just become spin doctors for propaganda.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:05 AM (ZCEU2)

203 I have committed no crime you mouth breathing heathens...how dare you.

Posted by: Dreamy James Comey at December 15, 2019 08:05 AM (cR+fB)

204 Technically the mistletoe would need to be over it.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

I give up. So many rules. No fun at all anymore..
Bah! Humbug!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:05 AM (vd8XM)

205 Technically the mistletoe would need to be over it.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:01 AM


Why is Engineering always such a negative Nancy?

Posted by: Your VP of Marketing at December 15, 2019 08:05 AM (DMUuz)

206 "didn't the League of Women Voters used to do ut?"

League of Women Voters is a leftist voting bloc.

Hardly neutral.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:05 AM (O4024)

207 195 I hear that Trump is considering skipping presidential debates because it's a rigged deal.
_________________

He should do at least one, and especially if Buttgig is the nominee, so people can see how Trump towers over the pathetic Dim.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 15, 2019 08:02 AM (k4dH2)

He can borrow Castros shoe shine box

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 08:06 AM (JFO2v)

208 204 Technically the mistletoe would need to be over it.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

I give up. So many rules. No fun at all anymore..
Bah! Humbug!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:05 AM (vd8XM)

Duct tape it to your belly button.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 08:06 AM (cF8AT)

209 200 Trump should get a truly neutral 3rd party to run a debate
Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:04 AM (G546f)

C-Span. Made to order solution. Just provide feed to the networks.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:07 AM (H8QX8)

210 if there's no neutral panel that can host.the debates, how about both sides host

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:07 AM (G546f)

211 "Duct tape it to your belly button."

Belly Button lint keeps the tape from sticking.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:07 AM (O4024)

212 Bruce, i agree! It takes practice to bake well. So often recipes are changed to be "healthier," sometimes that works but not always. In my opinion, holiday baking is rare, go with the good stuff & eat in moderation. The better it is, the more satisfying, the less you need to eat. Kinda like good chocolate.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (Z/jzm)

213 Upper Room Daily Devotional

"Healing":

https://tinyurl.com/yx7rwvkx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (WI7YS)

214 Duct tape it to your belly button.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 08:06 AM


Technically, that would require an outie.

Posted by: Your Director of Engineering at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (DMUuz)

215 if there's no neutral panel that can host.the debates, how about both sides host
Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform

They could take calls from listeners.

Yes Dave from Tacoma, what's your question?

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (vd8XM)

216 i.e. Chuck Todd's democrat consultant wife, Chris Cuomo's brother, Candy Crowley's defense of Obama, Stephanopoulos's loyal service to the Clinton's. etc.

******

Don't forget Donna Brazile feeding debate questions to Hillary's campaign prior to one of the Dem debatesin 2015-16 when she was foundering.


Lifesaver™ - a limerick

It seemed like a really big deal
With the Dem nomination to steal
Here's what I'm thinking
Her campaign was sinking
So they tossed her a buoy from Brazile

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (m45I2)

217 I have one more batch of peppermint bark to send out. Ghirardelli white choc and red and green peppermint.

Next Sat. kidlet and I make all of the cookies and deliver.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (MTxDQ)

218 DrJill Biden: "Hunter did nothing wrong, and that's the bottom line."


The whole family's a bunch of sociopaths....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (IttZ7)

219
@GQMagazine
Why the codpiece remains one of menswears most essential accessories



But we're TOTALLY NOT GAY!!!

/GQ

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (38jed)

220 Huh.

Trying to think of an organization I'd trust to run Presidential debates ... and drawing a total blank.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (JwHjN)

221 My daddy will beat your daddy

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 15, 2019 08:09 AM (L8NtX)

222 "Duct tape it to your belly button."

Belly Button lint keeps the tape from sticking.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

And a Brazilian wax on my tummy

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:09 AM (vd8XM)

223 First time caller, long time listener.

Posted by: Dave from Tacoma at December 15, 2019 08:09 AM (EgshT)

224 200 Trump should get a truly neutral 3rd party to run a debate
didn't the League of Women Voters used to do ut?
Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:04 AM (G546f)

Now call League of Women with Both Holes and Poles

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 08:10 AM (JFO2v)

225 I can't believe you morons are doubting the tensile strength of duct tape.

Hand over your man cards....

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 08:10 AM (cF8AT)

226 >>I have no interest in or capacity for feeling pity for Greta. It's a
useless emotion at this point. She's playing on a large stage and
attempting to wield coercive power -- emotional and otherwise -- over
millions of people. She needs to be discredited.



I think pointing out all her health issues does discredit her. If you understand that she is a pawn who literally can't take care of herself (she starves herself, FFS), whose alleged logic on climate is bogged down with emotional baggage, then the whole "Eco Joan of Arc" charade they've been selling falls apart. We see her parents and radical activist handlers behind the curtain.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 08:10 AM (bDqIh)

227 >>Whoa, this bright yellow thing is in the sky. Gotta make the doughnuts while the makin' is good.
Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 08:04 AM (D46E0)

You really make donuts?

Now that's something i'd like to learn. I've made eclairs, never donuts.

My bucket list is getting longer, people!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM (Z/jzm)

228 Bruce, i agree! It takes practice to bake well. So often recipes are changed to be "healthier," sometimes that works but not always. In my opinion, holiday baking is rare, go with the good stuff & eat in moderation. The better it is, the more satisfying, the less you need to eat. Kinda like good chocolate.
Posted by: My life is insanity

Remember the low fat craze in the 90's
Let's replace butter with applesauce and or yogurt in these brownies.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM (vd8XM)

229 Is there any way to get rid of the nonsense of the media declaring a "WINNER" of the debate? That irritates me.

(which really isn't a debate to begin with, it's a sound bite competition)

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM (m45I2)

230 223 Welcome, and nice comment number to start

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM (ZCEU2)

231 "Trying to think of an organization I'd trust to run Presidential debates ... and drawing a total blank."

Jane Curtin and Garret Morris.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM (O4024)

232 My bucket list is getting longer, people!
Posted by: My life is insanity

That's a good thing.
You don't want to get to the end of it

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:13 AM (vd8XM)

233 We Biden`s keep everything in the family. Don`t we Jill?...hee hee wink wink

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 15, 2019 08:13 AM (L8NtX)

234 You people are dreaming, there isn't anything in the sky, its one big sheet of grey

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:13 AM (ZCEU2)

235 Lifelong conservative here. I am really concerned about some things Trump has been doing.

Posted by: Totally NOT David French at December 15, 2019 08:13 AM (D46E0)

236 229 Is there any way to get rid of the nonsense of the media declaring a "WINNER" of the debate?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM (m45I2)

No. They need to be taken out of the equation. That the MSM has lorded over this process for so long is a scandal and a sign of total GOP impuissance.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:13 AM (H8QX8)

237 I'd trust the Salvation Army to run the debates, that's about it.

"Plague of Women Voters" not so much.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 15, 2019 08:14 AM (hptIz)

238 Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 08:10 AM (bDqIh)



Totally agree. I don't think she has the education to understand the full meaning of her "politicians should be put "against the wall" " quote. Somebody (who did know) told her to say that.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 08:14 AM (IttZ7)

239 The lowfat craze, yes. I was here for that. Didnt fall for it.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 08:15 AM (Z/jzm)

240 Dems: We must overturn 2016 and 2020 elections to save democracy.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 08:15 AM (JFO2v)

241 Trump should get a truly neutral 3rd party to run a debate


******

WWF

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:15 AM (m45I2)

242 " Is there any way to get rid of the nonsense of the media declaring a "WINNER" of the debate? That irritates me."

What do you think this is? Soccer?

Posted by: The media at December 15, 2019 08:16 AM (Tnijr)

243 The league of 1/2 the voters in America covers way to many Leftists

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:16 AM (ZCEU2)

244 WWF
Posted by: Muldoon

Will folding chairs be provided?

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:16 AM (vd8XM)

245
Hillary = Schlonged

Corbyn = Johnsoned

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:16 AM (38jed)

246 Bruce, i agree! It takes practice to bake well. So often recipes are changed to be "healthier," sometimes that works but not always. In my opinion, holiday baking is rare, go with the good stuff & eat in moderation. The better it is, the more satisfying, the less you need to eat. Kinda like good chocolate.
Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 08:08 AM (Z/jzm)




Baking is not difficult so long as you do as you are told.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM (HALdu)

247 Moderator Thomas Sowell? That would be awesome.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM (IttZ7)

248 245
Hillary = Schlonged

Corbyn = Johnsoned
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:16 AM (38jed)

Sounds like a cock fight

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM (JFO2v)

249
223 First time caller, long time listener.
Posted by: Dave from Tacoma at December 15, 2019 08:09 AM (EgshT)
-----
Hi Dave! Where you from?

Posted by: Weasel at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM (MVjcR)

250 " ... impuissance. "


With the Book Thread less than an hour away, we have a strong contender for Word Of The Day !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM (JwHjN)

251 I read an email from my dad yesterday written by a instructor at Pensacola. He said that the Saudi students were mostly sons of Sheiks and such and the most unruly students there. They skate by and the instructors are not allowed to reprimand them.

At least 10 other Saudis knew of the plan ahead of time and did nothing. Some allies huh?

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 07:18 AM (Tnijr)


I have always wondered how many "connected" Saudis were in the country pre 9/11, but were given quick unimpeded passage out of the country by GWB?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM (BiNEL)

252 But it's amazing. 
The difference in folk between here and Baltimore is absolutely amazing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 07:12 AM (O4024)

*********

Looks like Maryland is missing another Moron. We'll miss you.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 08:18 AM (flINI)

253 Trying to think of an organization I'd trust to run Presidential debates ... and drawing a total blank.

Whoever they would be, I know they're racist enemies of democracy who are worse than Hitler.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2019 08:19 AM (xXwKS)

254 Hillary = Schlonged



Corbyn = Johnsoned

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:16 AM (38jed)


I object strenuously to that heinous obloquy aimed at my good name, Sir!

Posted by: Dr Samuel Johnson at December 15, 2019 08:19 AM (IttZ7)

255 223 Welcome, and nice comment number to start
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:11 AM


A fine example of the caliber of commenter here!

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 08:19 AM (DMUuz)

256 Baking is not difficult so long as you do as you are told.
Posted by: not so

I had seen that,
Cooking is an art,
(good)Baking is a science

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:19 AM (vd8XM)

257 GWB is an honorary Saudi Prince!

Posted by: Tentotwo at December 15, 2019 08:20 AM (yhf6w)

258 Trying to think of an organization I'd trust to run Presidential debates ... and drawing a total blank.


Ringling Brothers?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:20 AM (38jed)

259 Totally agree. I don't think she has the education to understand the full meaning of her "politicians should be put "against the wall" " quote. Somebody (who did know) told her to say that.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 08:14 AM (IttZ7)


To be fair to sweet young thing, "Against the Wall" and "Edge of a Ditch" are literally identical in der original Svedish!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:20 AM (BiNEL)

260 256 Baking is not difficult so long as you do as you are told.
Posted by: not so

That applies to everything in life.

Posted by: Greta's parents at December 15, 2019 08:20 AM (H8QX8)

261 Ringling Brothers?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Zombie Groucho Marx?

I'd watch a debate for a change

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:21 AM (vd8XM)

262 I am still laughing about that dem congressman from NJ who is switching parties over impeachment. Wonder how much airtime that will get.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 15, 2019 08:21 AM (Bdrx8)

263 I even though Greta apologized for "The Wall" Comment, I still wonder what she meant by the "Trains". Shipped north to Siberia?
Posted by: Picric

And I don't like the sound these here Boncentration Bamps.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 15, 2019 08:21 AM (VNfwt)

264 And I don't like the sound these here Boncentration Bamps.
Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski

LOL!!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:21 AM (vd8XM)

265 GWB is an honorary Saudi Prince!

Posted by: Tentotwo at December 15, 2019 08:20 AM (yhf6w)


One Global Oligarchy to Rule them All!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:22 AM (BiNEL)

266 262 I am still laughing about that dem congressman from NJ who is switching parties over impeachment. Wonder how much airtime that will get.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 15, 2019 08:21 AM (Bdrx

That guy just became an instant smallpox blanket.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:22 AM (H8QX8)

267 donsurber.blogspot.com/actually rudolph was trump supporter
https://tinyurl.com/sz555p

A repeat link I saw during the Movie thread but think it deserves another try.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:22 AM (ZCEU2)

268 That guy just became an instant smallpox blanket.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

And being a middle of the road Dem, he becomes a far right Repub in most cases

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:23 AM (vd8XM)

269 read an email from my dad yesterday written by a instructor at Pensacola. He said that the Saudi students were mostly sons of Sheiks and such and the most unruly students there. They skate by and the instructors are not allowed to reprimand them.

At least 10 other Saudis knew of the plan ahead of time and did nothing. Some allies huh?

Posted by: freaked at December




Everyone in Saudi is a sheik or a prince.

Weirdly one of the guys he killed was a muslim.


Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 08:23 AM (HALdu)

270
And it's up against the wall, redneck mother
Mother who has raised her son so well
He's thirty four and drinkin' in a honky tonk
Just kickin' hippies' asses and raisin' hell

Posted by: I don't think she was talking about this guy at December 15, 2019 08:24 AM (Tnijr)

271 Weirdly one of the guys he killed was a muslim.

Posted by: not so

Gotta break a few eggs...

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:24 AM (vd8XM)

272 Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:17 AM

Surprises me not one bit

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 08:25 AM (ZCEU2)

273 >>" Is there any way to get rid of the nonsense of the media declaring a "WINNER" of the debate? That irritates me."


Last I saw, several newspapers were officially weighing in (i.e. trying to cast a vote) for impeachment.

Would love it if Trump's clever campaign team suggest an alternative to the tired, rigged MSM debate. Not only is is just another opportunity for them to torpedo the GOP candidate, but it hasn't been very helpful to voters in really understanding where the candidates stand (answer times too short, scope and tone of questions asked are limited, etc.).


Wish they would do something closer to the McCain and Obama (separate) interviews by Rick Warren. Given how many good podcasts/internet interviewers there are, such as Dave Rubin, why not select one or more of them to ask the questions, and make it more of a conversation, where there is more time for answers and for follow-up questions.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 08:25 AM (bDqIh)

274 Sorry ladies, not a Christmas cookie

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:03 AM (vd8XM)

True Christmas cookies start with butter and sugar, everything else is incidental!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:25 AM (BiNEL)

275 I had seen that,
Cooking is an art,
(good)Baking is a science
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:19 AM (vd8XM)




Wife is a genius cook retard baker.

There is no improvisation.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 08:25 AM (HALdu)

276 True Christmas cookies start with butter and sugar, everything else is incidental!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December




Yes

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (HALdu)

277 why not select one or more of them to ask the questions, and make it more of a conversation, where there is more time for answers and for follow-up questions.
Posted by: Lizzy

And try to find one that doesn't interrupt or talk over the candidate

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (vd8XM)

278 Weirdly one of the guys he killed was a muslim. 


Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 08:23 AM (HALdu)

********

Mohammedans have never been overly worried about killing their fellow Mohammedans. It's a feature not a bug.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (flINI)

279 Duct tape is just another name for Field Expedient Codpiece.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (m45I2)

280 people want jobs!!

More than 5.9 million individuals dropped off food stamps since President Donald Trump assumed office in February 2017, according to the latest data released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 08:27 AM (JFO2v)

281 And try to find one that doesn't interrupt or talk over the candidate

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (vd8XM)


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Sean Hannity at December 15, 2019 08:27 AM (IttZ7)

282 Wife is a genius cook retard baker.

There is no improvisation.
Posted by: not so

Eh, one teaspoon, two teaspoons, what's the diff

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:27 AM (vd8XM)

283 Morning all!

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (zr5Kq)

284 ...lots of cod talk this a.m.

so tonite it shall be fish & chippys and maybe smushed peas.

Posted by: krusty at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (i1+3K)

285 Well, no storm yet but they are promising snow today and freezing drizzle tonight and a wintry mix tomorrow. Better get out and get those eggs if I'm gonna bake today. Sitting here with a cup of coffee and hanging with you morons is more appealing.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (dUJdY)

286 More than 5.9 million individuals dropped off food stamps since President Donald Trump assumed office in February 2017, according to the latest data released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture
Posted by: rhennigantx

People are starving because of Trump!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (vd8XM)

287 Don't call me Porn 'Stache, Fatty! You want to do push-ups/. I keeeeeel you!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (m45I2)

288 Greetings fappers and fappees.

It's hard to fathom that Little Greta Thunderbitch came from the same country that gave us The Swedish Chef.

"Bork bork bork!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (HaL55)

289 Mohammedans have never been overly worried about killing their fellow Mohammedans. It's a feature not a bug.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (flINI)


When you are taught that killing yourself is not a big deal if it is for the cause, killing a few fellow believers is also no big deal.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (BiNEL)

290 And try to find one that doesn't interrupt or talk over the candidate

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (vd8XM)

*********

Buckle up everybody!

Posted by: Shawn Hannity at December 15, 2019 08:29 AM (flINI)

291 279
Duct tape is just another name for Field Expedient Codpiece.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:26 AM (m45I2)


You know, I just had an idea....

Posted by: Person who won't wax Jonathan Yaniv's naughty bits at December 15, 2019 08:29 AM (IttZ7)

292 Hi Dave! Where you from?

Uh...um...uh...I'll hang up and listen.

Posted by: Dave from Tacoma at December 15, 2019 08:29 AM (EgshT)

293 Oh FFS just tape yer banana to the wall and we can all kiss yer ass goodbye,for $120,000....happy now???

Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 08:29 AM (5IHGB)

294 "The Saudi personnel are "hand picked" by their military and often come from elite families"

I saw that the Pensacola shooter had only been there 5 days but can't confirm it anywhere else.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 08:30 AM (Tnijr)

295 Eh, one teaspoon, two teaspoons, what's the diff

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:27 AM (vd8XM)


Quite! In a strict mathematical sense, they are approximately the same!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:30 AM (BiNEL)

296 000-year-old trees excavated from under Icelandic glacier! Retarded-child sacrifice also discovered -- may have suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome. (I may have made up that last bit.) See the sock link.
Posted by: andycanuck


This is cool . Forest covering Iceland 3k years ago. During Earth's early global warming period. Which, as we all know, was caused by refrigerators and automobiles.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM (zr5Kq)

297 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Sean Hannity

Reminds me of..

Knock Knock
Who's there?
Interrupting Cow
Interrupting ..
*MOO**

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM (vd8XM)

298
debate moderators: Dan Bongino, Tim Pool, & Ted Nugent

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM (AHWpc)

299 debate moderators: Dan Bongino, Tim Pool, & Ted Nugent

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM (AHWpc)


I'd pay to see that, but only if not one cent went to the Dems!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:32 AM (BiNEL)

300 My daddy never swam nude in front of female secret service agents, this was a lie. He always wore a tight fitting thong and halter top!

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 15, 2019 08:33 AM (L8NtX)

301 This is cool . Forest covering Iceland 3k years ago. During Earth's early global warming period. Which, as we all know, was caused by refrigerators and automobiles.
Posted by: runner

The entire population of the earth was wiped out. Only cockroaches and Twinkies survived.
The earth then cooled again, and civilization started anew.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:33 AM (vd8XM)

302 It's Seftons Birfday today as well...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 08:33 AM (flINI)

303 286
More than 5.9 million individuals dropped off food stamps since
President Donald Trump assumed office in February 2017, according to the
latest data released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture

Posted by: rhennigantx



People are starving because of Trump!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:28 AM (vd8XM)

In the civilian world, this would be viewed as a success. In DC circles however.........

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 15, 2019 08:33 AM (D3cJf)

304 Two teaspoons are 100% more than one teaspoon while one teaspoon is only 50% less than two teaspoons.

Schrödinger's measuring spoon.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:33 AM (m45I2)

305 A properly done debate doesn't need anything but a guy to read the question and run a stopwatch.

Letting dickbags like Acosta get screen time is the mistake.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:35 AM (38jed)

306 True Christmas cookies start with butter and sugar, everything else is incidental!
Posted by:


THIS is truth.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 08:35 AM (MTxDQ)

307 Predictably one of the reviewers pf "Richard Jewell" says Eastwood doesn't care about the man at all; He just trying to score political points. Really? Eastwood probably wouldn't make a move about him if he didn't care.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2019 08:35 AM (WI7YS)

308 299 debate moderators: Dan Bongino, Tim Pool, & Ted Nugent

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM (AHWpc)

David Horowitz, Dennis Prager, Kurt Schlicter

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:35 AM (H8QX8)

309 Two teaspoons are 100% more than one teaspoon while one teaspoon is only 50% less than two teaspoons. 

Schrödinger's measuring spoon.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:33 AM (m45I2)

.........

White privilege...

Posted by: Sha'Quanda'a Jefferson Jackson at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM (flINI)

310 I want to visit Iceland. See what's up with Icelandia.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM (zr5Kq)

311 Two teaspoons are 100% more than one teaspoon while one teaspoon is only 50% less than two teaspoons.

Schrödinger's measuring spoon.
Posted by: Muldoon

That's okay if you're cooking cat-atouille
For a Pineapple upside down cat, it'll be a disaster

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM (vd8XM)

312 298
debate moderators: Dan Bongino, Tim Pool, & Ted Nugent
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM (AHWpc)


"Ahem!"

- - Editor, AOS Morning Report

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM (zBaqJ)

313 I saw that the Pensacola shooter had only been there 5 days but can't confirm it anywhere else.
Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 08:30 AM (Tnijr)




Think he was here for training, went home for a while, and came back. Not sure how much time was between the first and second.

Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (HALdu)

314 The media arm of the Republican Party is Donald Trump himself. So bring a chair for Hillary at the next 100 rallies and let Trump run the proceedings. Every rally she (or Liz or Joe or whoever. He'll, invite 'em all!) attends will do wonders for her attendance figures!

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (xXwKS)

315 >>More than 5.9 million individuals dropped off food stamps since

President Donald Trump assumed office in February 2017, according to the

latest data released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture
Considering Obama doubled the number of people on food stamps, I would call that a good start, not a tragedy!!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (bDqIh)

316 1 cup, 2 cups , all the same ??

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (zr5Kq)

317 Predictably one of the reviewers pf "Richard Jewell" says Eastwood doesn't care about the man at all; He just trying to score political points. Really? Eastwood probably wouldn't make a move about him if he didn't care.

A) He's dead. 'Caring' doesn't mean a fucking thing.

B) The relevant issue to our time is that the process that rolled over him is still rolling.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (38jed)

318 - - Editor, AOS Morning Report

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM (zBaqJ)


I'd pay serious money to see that!

JJ unleashed, FTW!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (BiNEL)

319 More than 5.9 million individuals dropped off food stamps since



Self deportation may have had something to do with it.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:38 AM (zr5Kq)

320 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2019 08:35 AM (WI7YS)

Gee the media sure have their panties in a bunch over this movie. I wonder why?

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:38 AM (dUJdY)

321 So bring a chair for Hillary

Better, bring a bollard

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:38 AM (vd8XM)

322 317 Predictably one of the reviewers pf "Richard Jewell" says Eastwood doesn't care about the man at all; He just trying to score political points.

Pure projection. They can't conceive either of caring about somebody they exploit, or of not trying to score political points.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:39 AM (H8QX8)

323 Unexpectedly....



https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/351458/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:39 AM (O4024)

324 bring a chair for Hillary


Comfy van

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:39 AM (zr5Kq)

325 Gee the media sure have their panties in a bunch over this movie. I wonder why?

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:38 AM (dUJdY)


We may never know the real reason...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:39 AM (BiNEL)

326 So bring a chair for Hillary


If her quads are as pumped as her face, she probably can't sit down.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:39 AM (38jed)

327 how about a debate where the quesare published ahead of time, and the candidates just go at it, their mics get cut off when their time is up

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (G546f)

328 "Think he was here for training, went home for a while, and came back. Not sure how much time was between the first and second."

There were still a bunch of Saudi trainees still at large and I have heard nothing about the rest of them being rounded up and hopefully interrogated.

Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (Tnijr)

329 How about a no-host debate format, with no packed audience, no retarded set-up questions and set time periods for answers and rebuttals?

Posted by: Grand Rapids at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (Xo3T0)

330 My brother in law was removed from the respirator this morning they expect he will pass quickly. Pray for him please.

Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (0OmEj)

331 >>"Ahem!"



- - Editor, AOS Morning Report
- - -

Fred: "What did you think of last nights debate?"

Ed: "Pretty good, but that one guy kept calling Joe Biden "Joe Bite-me" and I'm not sure why everything is supposed to happen two weeks . . .?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 08:41 AM (bDqIh)

332 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:39 AM (O4024)

My good man, I insist upon a deodorized Walmart with reserved Tesla charging stations close to the door!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:41 AM (BiNEL)

333 How about no debates? They are a waste of time.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:41 AM (zr5Kq)

334 Prayers up, usntakim.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 08:41 AM (HaL55)

335 debate moderators: Dan Bongino, Tim Pool, & Ted Nugent
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2019 08:31 AM

=====

"Ahem!"
- - Editor, AOS Morning Report
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM


On your birthday? Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: zombie GHWB at December 15, 2019 08:42 AM (DMUuz)

336 My brother in law was removed from the respirator this morning they expect he will pass quickly. Pray for him please.
Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot

Prayer up

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:42 AM (vd8XM)

337 Instead, they and the media have pushed him right, and he has embraced the Republicans more than I dreamed possible!
Keep it up CNN!
Posted by: Kortezzi at December 15, 2019 06:18 AM (UgFZj)

All he's done is try to keep every campaign promise. You've got it backwards. They haven't pushed him right. They can't leave him alone because he had no intention of doing anything but keep his promises.

Posted by: ... at December 15, 2019 08:42 AM (7HyDs)

338 "Ahem!"
- - Editor, AOS Morning Report
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM

Captain Hate as his second

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (vd8XM)

339 Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (0OmEj)

Done. I'm so sorry.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (dUJdY)

340 Eastwood should follow this up with a movie about Steven Hatfill.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (38jed)

341 JJ unleashed, FTW!

It would need sub-captioning for the hard-of-AoS-meming.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (xXwKS)

342 Ali Watkins is the name of the WaPo reporterette knob gobbler. I finally found it online.

Richard Jewell is a terrific movie.

Posted by: clutch at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (+mbOC)

343 Little over an hour west of ya Jewells.
Looks like we got 1 to 2 inches overnight.
Still coming down as fine stuff at about medium rate.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 08:44 AM (e5f4b)

344 340 Eastwood should follow this up with a movie about Steven Hatfill.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (38jed)

Yes. There are so many stories on this theme it's an embarrassment of riches.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:44 AM (H8QX8)

345 Of course as soon as I said it...here comes the snow.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:45 AM (dUJdY)

346 Of course as soon as I said it...here comes the snow.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:45 AM (dUJdY)


Jewells! Don't abuse those special powers!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:46 AM (BiNEL)

347 usntakim now a russian bot

==

I'm so sorry for your loss

loving prayers

Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 08:47 AM (G546f)

348 I'm binge watching Batman and Holy Shit Sticks, Robin, it's a guest character overdose!



We get...The Green Hornet and Kato! (real deal Van Williams and Bruce Lee).



That Mudd guy from Star Wars!



AAAANNNDD....dafuq? Rex Reed?

Rex Reed!!!!



Hornet and Batman both wanna throw a bone in Miss Pinkston, who employs Mudd!!! What could go wrong?



Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 06:35 AM (RhBlM)


Who wouldn't back then? Pinky Pinkston was played by the beautiful Diane McBain

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 08:47 AM (mKLFv)

349 I am so sorry, usntakim.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2019 08:47 AM (1CjJc)

350 Ahem!" 
- - Editor, AOS Morning Report 
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 08:36 AM 

Captain Hate as his second

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (vd8XM)

********

Add Masturbatin' Pete and I think you have sonething

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 08:47 AM (flINI)

351 My brother in law was removed from the respirator this morning they expect he will pass quickly. Pray for him please.

Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (0OmEj)


Prayers for you brother in law

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 08:48 AM (mKLFv)

352 JJ unleashed, FTW!

It would need sub-captioning for the hard-of-AoS-meming.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2019 08:43 AM (xXwKS)


Bluebell could publish an AoS meme translation handbook!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:48 AM (BiNEL)

353
Add Masturbatin' Pete and I think you have sonething
Posted by: Truck Monkey

Fun for the whole family

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:48 AM (vd8XM)

354 AtC has to be a AoSHQ moderator. Right?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 08:48 AM (IttZ7)

355 Michelle Obama`s penis is actually larger then rumored to be.

Posted by: Detective Arlo at December 15, 2019 08:50 AM (/Rqse)

356 How about no debates? They are a waste of time.

How about some substantive questions? "Polls consistently show overwhelming public support for securing the Mexican border. What are your plans to do this?"

"Our federal deficit is at an all-time high, leading to inflation which results in a decreased standard of living for all Americans and harms the poor most of all. Will you balance the budget?"

"Man-caused climate change has been proven to be a hoax more than once. Do you believe it?"

"During the Kavanaugh hearings, many of his opponents proved that they no longer consider anyone innocent until proven guilty. Do you support this universally recognized human right? If not, why not?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 08:50 AM (HaL55)

357 Will do, usntakim.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2019 08:50 AM (bDqIh)

358 Can't have an AOSHQ sponsored debate without Mandela Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy on stage.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:50 AM (m45I2)

359 The Race Draft!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z3wUD3AZg4

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 08:51 AM (JFO2v)

360 Bluebell could publish an AoS meme translation handbook!

"It's a cookbook!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 08:51 AM (HaL55)

361 "During the Kavanaugh hearings, many of his opponents proved that they no longer consider anyone innocent until proven guilty. Do you support this universally recognized human right? If not, why not?"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain.

Do you believe that Epstein killed himself?

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:51 AM (vd8XM)

362 Can't have an AOSHQ sponsored debate without Mandela Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy on stage.
Posted by: Muldoon

Oh geez, I'd pay good money for that debate

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:52 AM (vd8XM)

363 Is there a Mrs. Masturbating Pete?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:52 AM (m45I2)

364 363 Is there a Mrs. Masturbating Pete?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:52 AM (m45I2)

Is this a debate question?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2019 08:53 AM (1CjJc)

365 I know Hrothgar!! Dammit!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:53 AM (dUJdY)

366 will do, usntakim !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 15, 2019 08:53 AM (JwHjN)

367 Moderator asks a question, Fake Sign Language Guy provides a fake translation that takes up so much time that the moderator cuts off the candidate before they start to answer and moves on to the next question.

This has potential.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:54 AM (m45I2)

368 Bluebell could publish an AoS meme translation handbook!

"It's a cookbook!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 08:51 AM (HaL55)


"99 ways to prepare crow!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:54 AM (BiNEL)

369 " Is there a Mrs. Masturbating Pete?"


I believe there is.


Posts as 'Frustrated"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 08:54 AM (O4024)

370 Is there a Mrs. Masturbating Pete?

Handy Harriet ?

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 08:54 AM (arJlL)

371 Is there a Mrs. Masturbating Pete?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:52 AM (m45I2)

*********

All good systems will have redundancy as one of its components

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2019 08:55 AM (flINI)

372 will do, usntakim !

seconded

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 08:55 AM (arJlL)

373 107 V I A
Moving? Consider Nashville or Huntsville.

I used to live in Baltimore long ago. First marriage. First career. It was nice then. That was then.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at December 15, 2019 08:56 AM (ucI+2)

374 Debate question-


Which Trump policy do you disagree with and what is your alternative?

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 15, 2019 08:57 AM (cknjq)

375 Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 08:50 AM (HaL55)

Do you believe that the 2A was meant to apply only to smoothbore muskets and not for personal self defense nor to permit a people's confrontation with a powerful tyrannical government??

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 15, 2019 08:57 AM (BiNEL)

376 345 Of course as soon as I said it...here comes the snow.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 08:45 AM (dUJdY)

I'm SE of you...waiting.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 08:58 AM (cF8AT)

377 Ruth Bader Meinhoff still alive?

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 08:58 AM (Z+IKu)

378 Is there a Mrs. Masturbating Pete?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 08:52 AM (m45I2)


10 bucks, same as in town ?

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 08:59 AM (zr5Kq)

379 Which Trump policy do you disagree with and what is your alternative?
Posted by: weirdflunky

All of them,
More taxes

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:59 AM (vd8XM)

380 330 My brother in law was removed from the respirator this morning they expect he will pass quickly. Pray for him please.

Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at December 15, 2019 08:40 AM (0OmEj)

Prayers for him and your family.

Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:00 AM (cF8AT)

381 Okay, time to get something done

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 09:00 AM (vd8XM)

382 362 Can't have an AOSHQ sponsored debate without Mandela Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy on stage.
Posted by: Muldoon

Oh geez, I'd pay good money for that debate
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 08:52 AM (vd8XM)

*puts up hands like 2 feathers behind head*
*makes jack off sign*
*plays out dollar bill making it rain*

as PDT says Liawathas Wealth Tax is just one big jack off idea


Posted by: Mandela Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy at December 15, 2019 09:00 AM (JFO2v)

383 " usntakim now a russian bot."

Prayers sent.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (O4024)

384 Should Trump refuse to be part of "debates" with the Dems? I think so, and it should be because like everything else in our political landscape, it's fake - obviously so - and a set up by the fascistic Leftist media complex. The position of strength here is to tell the networks, all of them, that, nope, the rules have changed and you no longer get to have that sort of influence.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (AEEhl)

385 Book thread up!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (vhcul)

386 Cookies you don't like?
Maybe cookies you don't like as much as others
Posted by: Skip

Someone made a sour cream cookie. Bleh. Not really a fan of shortbread, sugar cookies, or cookies made with trendy substitute ingredients like carrot butter, or something.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (1CjJc)

387 Trump will do the debates. It's his single chance other than the SOTU to talk directly and unfiltered to the people.

Posted by: ... at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (7HyDs)

388 http://bit.ly/2tg5Buh
*******
Democrat Rep. Collin Peterson Confirms He'll Vote Against Impeachment

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (BqBId)

389

"99 days to prepare crow!"

Me thinks that will come in handy around here.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 09:08 AM (e5f4b)

390
Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
Comey now arguing IG Horowitz didn't say any FBI agent engaged in criminal misconduct. Completely false. So false, Horowitz submitted the entire 400+ page report to U.S. Attorney John Durham as a criminal referral.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 09:17 AM (BqBId)

391 Hey D S i i S S,

One of the "and others" you spoke of the other day, here.
Really appreciate what you've been doing here.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 09:21 AM (e5f4b)

392 Gonna pass on the book thread.
A quick check back at the map dot pub site and then to something around here.
Maybe even breakfast.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 09:23 AM (e5f4b)

393 91 Hey D S i i S S,

One of the "and others" you spoke of the other day, here.
Really appreciate what you've been doing here.
Posted by: teej at December 15, 2019 09:21 AM (e5f4b)
*******
No Problem, Glad to be of help

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (BqBId)

394 How about a series of real debates?

One topic per session: timed statements of candidates positions on said topic, followed by timed questions from opposition, followed by timed rebuttals.

There may not have been an actual debate for a national office since Lincoln and Douglas squared off.

Posted by: Skrapheap at December 15, 2019 10:00 AM (XB+eA)

395
Holly Crap!!

James Comey says he did worse things before this FISA abuse!

"Mistakes more consequential during my tenure".

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (BqBId)

396 Comey following the media's lead picking parts of sentences out and making it the headline.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:05 AM (ZCEU2)

397 #11 Bruce....do you have a good biscotti recipe? Is it in the moron cookbook?

Posted by: AnnaS at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (l4l/z)

398 This is cool . Forest covering Iceland 3k years ago. During Earth's
early global warming period. Which, as we all know, was caused by
refrigerators and automobiles.
-------
I blame Loki but then, who doesn't??

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2019 10:50 AM (Dh1wo)

399 Willowed again!

Loki!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2019 10:58 AM (Dh1wo)

400 Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 07:37 AM

Thank you, Tami. I sent donation to catsbridge for Reggie's care in rickl's memory.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (Dhht7)

401 dead thread, eh?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (Dh1wo)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (12/14/19)

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The Saturday Night Joke - 1

During World War II, a grande dame calls the company commander at a local Army base. "This is Mrs. George Harrison Wattersill. I would like to invite 10 of your men to Christmas dinner here at Long Acres."

"That would be very nice," the commander replies.

"But," Mrs. George Harrison Wattersill continues, "no Jews, please. I hope you understand."

"Perfectly. Leave it to me."

Christmas comes and the guests are announced at Long Acres. Descending the staircase, Mrs. George Harrison Wattersill is horrified to see 10 black enlisted men standing at attention.

"My God!" she gasps. "There must be some horrible mistake!"

"No, Ma'am!" the first sergeant booms. "Cap'n Goldberg, he nevuh make a mistake!" (H/T Hadrian the Seventh)

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The Saturday Night Joke - 2


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What a messed up family. Man sues his ex-wife and 2 young daughters.

Father Sues His 8- and 10-Year-Old Daughters for Slander
Be good, boys and girls, or we'll sue you, too.

The daughters allegedly told police officers, the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services, "and other persons" that the father had punched the 8-year-old and pulled her hair; this led to the father being "arrested on a Domestic Violence charge," which "remains pending.

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People More Likely To Believe In Hell After Shopping At Walmart

U.S.—A lot of people don't believe in hell anymore, thinking the concept of a place of eternal torment is archaic.


But one new study suggests people are much more likely to believe in the concept of hell after shopping at Walmart, especially during the Christmas season. From waiting in eternal lines to dealing with hundreds of not-quite-right customers throughout the store, people start to get what hell might be like.

After enduring the hellscape of a busy Walmart, people tend to be able to better conceive of a place where people are tortured for eternity.

"Honestly, it would be unjust for there not to be a hell," said one man after he waited for 30 minutes for someone to come unlock the Xbox games in the electronics department. "God is love, but He is also justice, and whoever runs this place needs to pay."


***

Location, location, location. Would you like to live in Arizona? Do you want a unique home? Do you qualify for a $400,000 mortgage? Here's the house for you.

Abandoned Nuclear Missile Complex in Arizona For Sale $400,000

Have you thought about buying a missile complex, I mean a new home, but looked at the row upon row of little boxes that constitute modern housing complexes with horror?

Would you like to consider something way off in the left-field, a real fixer-upper but a property that would prompt discussion or years to come?

Well, look no further than a decommissioned Titan II intercontinental ballistic missile silo located in the middle of the Arizona Desert and being sold by www.realtyexecutives.com


***


Black Sabbath had quite a coke habit way back when.


***


Ryan Gunderson, former captain of the Washington Generals tells his interesting story.

I WAS THE CAPTAIN OF THE TEAM THAT LOSES TO THE GLOBETROTTERS EVERY NIGHT
As the Generals’ point guard, my job was to be a jerk and get humiliated on the court. But behind the scenes, it was a different story

Only an elite minority of the nation’s high school basketball players are given the chance to continue playing in college. An even smaller number are able to say they’ve played basketball professionally.

Ryan Gunderson is one of those few. Now, you won’t see Gunderson’s jersey lofted into the rafters of the United Center or his highlights posted to Instagram, but there is no doubt that he made it to a level almost no one else on this planet reaches: getting paid to play basketball in front of giant, international crowds.

And bomb. Night after night.

Gunderson survived what many might consider the worst job in professional sports: playing for the Washington Generals. He was the team captain and starting point guard for a team whose sole existence is to lose to the Harlem Globetrotters.

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If you were a realtor, how would you list this home? Stunning 4 bedroom 3 bath home needs a little TLC shitton of paint.


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Australia is quite the place.

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Not my cup of tea coffee.

Pepsi is upping the ante when it comes to caffeinated beverages.

The soda giant has announced plans to launch Pepsi Café, a cola-coffee drink that has roughly twice the amount of caffeine as a regular Pepsi. The drink will debut in April and could give Pepsi a head start in this new market.

The Coca-Cola Company has a similar product, called Coke Plus Coffee, available in international markets, but has not yet announced a U.S. launch date, though it is widely expected to do so.


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With a protractor like this, perhaps geometry would have been easier.

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This guy is right.


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What's wrong with hot hot water and soap? Vampire facial and HIV.

The so-called vampire facials that have been touted by celebrities for ostensible rejuvenation benefits have been linked to two cases of HIV in New Mexico, according to health officials.

The New Mexico Department of Health first warned that clients of the since-closed VIP Spa in Albuquerque should be tested for possible blood-borne infections—including HIV, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C—last fall after an inspection found the spa’s practices could have put some clients at risk

Going to a strange location and using unknown sources of bodily fluids, nope don't see anything bad happening.

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THE ONT CHRISTMAS MUSIC INTERLUDE


THE ONT says Bah Humbug MoFos.

Holiday music is bad for your mental health, according to science — here's why

Incessant repetition of holiday music can have a psychological impact.

At first, holiday music can be uplifting, but after a certain period of time, it can cause boredom — and even distress.

It can remind listeners of the other stressors of the holidays, like finances and family.


Now here's your nightly dose of Christmas music.



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SQUIRREL Genius Award Winner.

A D.C. resident may have inadvertently set their own apartment on fire in an attempt to scare away what is believed to be a squirrel with a lit stick of incense.

Around noon on Wednesday, a resident of a three-story apartment building in the 1300 block of Congress St. SE tried to drive off a small mammal with a lit stick of incense — scent unknown. The critter knocked the burning tip of the stick off, setting fire to the attic of the apartment, according to D.C. Fire and EMS.

To make matters worse, the resident’s smoke alarm had been disabled because it kept going off while they were cooking.

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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Linguistics.

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. Saturday nigh is alright for ONTing. Join us for Sunday's Christmas Party ONT.

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1 First?

Posted by: Slash Buzz at December 14, 2019 09:59 PM (SK+Tm)

2 ?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 14, 2019 09:59 PM (X3oxg)

3 I'll get the others...

Posted by: Slash Buzz at December 14, 2019 09:59 PM (SK+Tm)

4 Not first.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 09:59 PM (TdMsT)

5 Nope. Beat by Slash Buzz.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 14, 2019 09:59 PM (X3oxg)

6 Wow, top 10? Top 15?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 09:59 PM (fNFgo)

7 Evening all!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 10:00 PM (Y4EXg)

8 Nice ONT MisHum.
I knew you liked poker :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:00 PM (L2ZTs)

9 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 14, 2019 10:00 PM (RwnR0)

10 I like this thread. Cozy. Perfect for a child.

Posted by: Jack Torrance at December 14, 2019 10:01 PM (I99aF)

11 No noods? No more noods?

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 10:01 PM (a4qVe)

12 Nice Heisman ceremony. Burrow seems like a very nice young man with enough character to withstand the downside of NFL success.

Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2019 10:02 PM (RueoN)

13 I'm watching a 2012 Neil Diamond concert on PBS.
I think it's his original band members and back up singers. They ain't 29.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 14, 2019 10:03 PM (2DOZq)

14 8 Nice ONT MisHum.
I knew you liked poker :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:00 PM (L2ZTs)


Sadly, a Sheepshead Image couldn't be located.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:03 PM (aA3+G)

15 "Honestly, it would be unjust for there not to be a hell," said one man after he waited for 30 minutes for someone to come unlock the Xbox games in the electronics department. "God is love, but He is also justice, and whoever runs this place needs to pay."


I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:03 PM (TdMsT)

16 MisHum, nice quote from Mrs Paste Eating Jill Biden. :-)

How drunk do you suppose she is on most days?

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:04 PM (L2ZTs)

17 Jackie Vernon - best Frosty voice ever.

Fight me!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 10:04 PM (Y4EXg)

18 Good Evening Horde

Posted by: wing at December 14, 2019 10:05 PM (JFzNN)

19 ''How drunk do you suppose she is on most days?''

Living with at crew? I'm guessing pretty drunk.

Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2019 10:05 PM (RueoN)

20 I saw a variant of the cat meme -
Greta on the left
white cat on the right "Holy Shit! Bring the other bitch back"

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:06 PM (G546f)

21 at=that

Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2019 10:06 PM (RueoN)

22 Yes, but on the Theresa Heinz Kerry scale, how drunk is Jill Biden, usually?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:06 PM (I99aF)

23 Um, Mis Hum, regarding the sidebar, that's DOCTOR Paste-eating Jill Biden.

Posted by: Willie Brown at December 14, 2019 10:06 PM (+lVUW)

24 yay! *gives free hugs*

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 10:07 PM (ykYG2)

25 With that hand, why are there chips still there?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 10:07 PM (LOq4H)

26 16 MisHum, nice quote from Mrs Paste Eating Jill Biden. :-)

How drunk do you suppose she is on most days?
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:04 PM (L2ZTs)

Either that or first stage Alzheimer's.

Another Dem broad with a bra size bigger than an IQ

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

27 Can't help it, but I just love that white cat. So clever!

Unlike that purple house. OMG! That is way over the top, even for HGTV.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:07 PM (fNFgo)

28 How did you get my motorcycle video?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 10:07 PM (BiNEL)

29 What? Asking my neighbor if I'm next while he's snowblowing his driveway is uncouth?

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:08 PM (dUJdY)

30 ''What? Asking my neighbor if I'm next while he's snowblowing his driveway is uncouth?''

Brazen is a better word for it.

Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2019 10:09 PM (RueoN)

31 23 Um, Mis Hum, regarding the sidebar, that's DOCTOR Paste-eating Jill Biden.
Posted by: Willie Brown at December 14, 2019 10:06 PM (+lVUW)


Is she a medical doctor or an piled higher and deeper doctor?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:09 PM (aA3+G)

32 If you were a realtor, how would you list this home? Stunning 4 bedroom 3 bath home needs a little TLC shitton of paint.

Is that paint color Sherwin Williams "Whorehouse Purple"?

Posted by: Willie Brown at December 14, 2019 10:11 PM (+lVUW)

33 Going to a 3rd world country and using unknown sources of bodily fluids, nope don't see anything bad happening.

I don't get it.

Posted by: Neil Bush at December 14, 2019 10:11 PM (ykYG2)

34 lol Tuna.. I can be brazen at times. But no I've never asked a neighbor to shovel our driveway. We hire someone at the beginning of winter. Sort of on retainer kind of thing. If it snows more than 3 inches you will come and shovel our driveway.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:11 PM (dUJdY)

35 29 What? Asking my neighbor if I'm next while he's snowblowing his driveway is uncouth?
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:08 PM (dUJdY)


Hi Jewells!

I just realized I don't have enough time before Christmas to get everything done!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:12 PM (TdMsT)

36 There's not enough primer in the world for that house. Tear out the walls. Re-sheetrock everything.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:12 PM (I99aF)

37 I cant compete with the runners in the other heat is rock and roll

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 14, 2019 10:13 PM (PUmDY)

38 While en-route to home, after having to accomplish a bit of after-hours vehicle juggling at work, I'm stopped at a light at 61st St. here in Galveston.

Location of this intersection has two cemeteries sited at diagonal quadrants, so there's one to my immediate right, and the other across the intersection to my left.

Wherefrom a full-grown Coyote emerges, not at a full-run, but certainly an urgent scamper, heading South, straight down the center Northbound lane on 61st.

He kept looking behind him as he ran, too.

Something spooked him in the graveyard, I reckon?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2019 10:13 PM (QzJWU)

39
Is she a medical doctor or an piled higher and deeper doctor?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Piled higher and deeper. Education, which is about as low as you can get.

The more useless the doctorate the more insistent the holder being called "doctor".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 10:14 PM (7rVsF)

40 I just realized I don't have enough time before Christmas to get everything done!

I hear ya. I've been madly trying to keep the shop up to date, wrap presents, keep the house halfway presentable.. oh and I still work full time. I did manage to do that thing we talked about.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:14 PM (dUJdY)

41 Not a protractor. An exotic version of a draftsman's French curve.

Posted by: MW at December 14, 2019 10:15 PM (hNTtn)

42 black sabbath story left out ozzy snorting the ant hill. cray mofo he was.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:15 PM (KP5rU)

43 I read the content. Most excellent ONT, much thanks! CC 'n coke

Posted by: Zeera BMGG Books Make Great Gifts at December 14, 2019 10:15 PM (zUdXR)

44 Storm moving in tomorrow. I may be in all day. I may kill my husband. Maybe.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:15 PM (dUJdY)

45 Since when is New Mexico a foreign country??? *Looks around*, never mind...

Posted by: lin-duh at December 14, 2019 10:16 PM (UUBmN)

46 All riiiight, a Saturday Overnight Open Thread!

Now we're going to see some serious action!



Howdy, peculiars.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I solemly swear I am up to no good at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (f/e+k)

47 That house is Pimpbarrassing

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (D46E0)

48 44 Storm moving in tomorrow. I may be in all day. I may kill my husband. Maybe.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:15 PM (dUJdY)


The ultimate peaceful present

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (aA3+G)

49 "Cap'n Goldberg, he nevuh make a mistake!"

Ahoy! The ship is sinking. Full speed ahead!

Posted by: Jonah, the mistake prone Goldberg at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (Z4rgH)

50 lol Tuna.. I can be brazen at times. But no I've never asked a neighbor to shovel our driveway. We hire someone at the beginning of winter. Sort of on retainer kind of thing. If it snows more than 3 inches you will come and shovel our driveway.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:11 PM (dUJdY)
* * * *

We have a neighbor who cleared our driveway of six inches of new snow. We were out of town at the time and returned to a nice, clear driveway. He refused payment of any kind, so we took freshly baked biscuits and homemade chicken noodle soup to him today.

I should mention that we just moved here to the Land that Has Winter, and he knows we are still getting accustomed to winter weather, having not seen it for a long, long time.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (fNFgo)

51 DOCTOR Jill Biden must really want Joe out of the house.
Can't blame her for that but she's got to be drunk all the time or is being held hostage and has Stockholm Syndrome.

Maybe Scoldilocks can put her up against a wall?

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (Tt761)

52 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (fNFgo


Cookies make an excellent dessert with a meal of biscuits and soup, just sayin'

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

53 Had to look up "French curve", which linked to another article about a delightfully named device called a "lesbian rule". The more you know.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:18 PM (I99aF)

54 The purple house just needs some yellow accents and you can sell it to a LSU super fan.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 14, 2019 10:19 PM (2DOZq)

55
I hear ya. I've been madly trying to keep the shop up to date, wrap presents, keep the house halfway presentable.. oh and I still work full time. I did manage to do that thing we talked about.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:14 PM (dUJdY)


I haven't done it yet. I just found out tonight that I need stocking stuffers for TWELVE people! I been wrapping the other gifts for three days. I've overcommitted every day next week. It's gonna be a marathon week!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:19 PM (TdMsT)

56 A cocaine budget?

The mark of any successful band.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 10:19 PM (Z4rgH)

57 MisHum..you know I'm kidding. But being pent up in the house all day..ugh. I just won't venture out anymore if it's bad outside. And I need eggs. I forgot to order eggs when I put my grocery order in. So.. maybe no baking tomorrow.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:19 PM (dUJdY)

58
Bombshell! Megan Rapinoe of the Soccer Team of Womxn from the United States has endorsed Fauxcahontas!!! - !

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 10:19 PM (7rVsF)

59 45 Since when is New Mexico a foreign country??? *Looks around*, never mind...
Posted by: lin-duh at December 14, 2019 10:16 PM (UUBmN)\


Hey, I was racing for an ONT, I didn't see the "New"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:20 PM (aA3+G)

60 Ladyl.. twelve people?? Jesus. I freak out over the 4 I have to do.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:20 PM (dUJdY)

61 Evening all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2019 10:21 PM (c5pD3)

62 Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:19 PM (dUJdY)


I do, just had to razz you.......

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

63 Hey Jewells
Ship my key chain before killing the husband. Priorities, ya know?

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:21 PM (Tt761)

64 Nice Christmas picture!

Red and green chips . . .
Three kings . . .
A Full House, which reminds me of Candace Cameron, who's now Candace Cameron Bure, who's on a lot of those Christmas movies . . .
Booze . . .

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 10:21 PM (ScWBu)

65 ..Maybe Scoldilocks can put her up against a wall?

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:17 PM (Tt761)



"A Wall Job". WWII Brit Slang for a lady of the evening to turn a trick sans bedroom or bed. Usually by means of bracing her backside against a wall (typically in an alleyway), while her John .. shall we say "pins her in place" from the front.

But, they're classy, see. It's the accent!

*sniffs magisterially*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2019 10:21 PM (QzJWU)

66 Cocaine is a helluva drug.

Posted by: Rick James at December 14, 2019 10:21 PM (D46E0)

67 Meant to share, from the movie thread:

Greta Thunberg apologizes for her 'against the wall' comment, says it was a translation error. Uh huh.

She also said "this is what happens when you improvise speeches in a second language. But of course I apologize if anyone misunderstood this."

Not feeling the remorse, Greta. Not feeling it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (L2ZTs)

68 60 twelve people?? Jesus.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:20 PM (dUJdY)

Yes.

Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (7HyDs)

69 Cookies make an excellent dessert with a meal of biscuits and soup, just sayin'
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

Excellent idea! Just wish I knew what his favorite might be... Have to be so careful nowadays what with food allergies and dietary restrictions.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (fNFgo)

70 Oh anyone that wasn't around earlier, AoS keychains back in stock!! One of youse guys already ordered one.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (dUJdY)

71 At first, holiday music can be uplifting, but after a certain period of time, it can cause boredom - and even distress.

It can remind listeners of the other stressors of the holidays, like finances and family.
-----

They are listening to the wrong kind of 'Holiday' music.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (xSo9G)

72 58: congratulations. two people i give zero fucks about in the same sentence. awesome.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (KP5rU)

73 Lori Laughlin should do a new Hallmark special: Hard Time at Work Camp Christmas.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (I99aF)

74 53 Had to look up "French curve", which linked to another article about a delightfully named device called a "lesbian rule". The more you know.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:18 PM (I99aF)


Try gurgling "lesbian rule" and see what comes up. I never knew...

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (377Zs)

75 By the way Jewells I just for the first time checked out your stuff today. It's lovely. Gonna buy wifey something in the next couple weeks.

Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (7HyDs)

76 Winnowed:
My washing machine decided to break down this past week. It couldn't have broken down on or right after black friday. Too much to ask. To top it off we'll have a ten day wait for delivery. So the mountains of laundry are slowly but steadily building.

But yet, all in all it makes me realize how amazingly blessed I am to live in the USA while Trump is President, the UK told the left to f*off, our stock market is yuuuge and if Brexit goes through will be even more so, the state of Virginia is blanketing themselves into 2nd sanctuary havens, capitalism still reigns supreme and I can buy a freaking brand new super duper large capacity washing machine of the color of my choice unhindered by the commie and environazis scum!
Posted by: Floridachick at December 14, 2019 10:10 PM (TzmYC)


I have nothing to add, I just thought that was succinct summation. Sargon of Akkad et al are full of joy and it is fun to listen to it. A smile is great protection from the vampiric left.


Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (LxTcq)

77 Rusty Nail, "Christmas At Leavenworth"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (L2ZTs)

78 The music links aren't working for me tonight.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (TdMsT)

79 There's not enough primer in the world for that house. Tear out the walls. Re-sheetrock everything.


Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:12 PM (I99aF)

Have to say the carpet that ran up the sides of the bathtub and the sink in the bathroom were a nice touch. Not the first time I've seen that, just not in that color.

Posted by: Vendette at December 14, 2019 10:23 PM (6ezlu)

80 Hi Ladyl.

Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 10:24 PM (7HyDs)

81 *With a protractor like this, perhaps geometry would have been easier.*

The only exception to the No Math rule at the ONT!

Posted by: tbodie at December 14, 2019 10:24 PM (V0CWC)

82 I like the Christmas season less and less each year.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:24 PM (eqHr7)

83 31 23 Um, Mis Hum, regarding the sidebar, that's DOCTOR Paste-eating Jill Biden.
Posted by: Willie Brown at December 14, 2019 10:06 PM (+lVUW)


Is she a medical doctor or an piled higher and deeper doctor?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Okay, now I'm trying to refresh my memory. A few years ago we were on here commenting about a female professor who did something nuts. Yeah, I know, not uncommon. Anyway she yelled something like, "That's DOCTOR Amy Whatever!"
I'm trying to remember the details.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

84 80 Hi Ladyl.
Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 10:24 PM (7HyDs)


Hi ... !!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:25 PM (TdMsT)

85 Greetings fappers and fappees.

Nice musical choices once more, MisHum. One can never have too much Greg Lake or Jethro Tull or Gene Autry.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:25 PM (HaL55)

86 we had a guy who worked for us got into some legal mumbo jumbo. said he was going to new mexico because the cops couldn't get him there. being a foreign country and all. we didn't have the heart to correct him.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:25 PM (KP5rU)

87 $400k for a missile silo? That's a bargain!

You couldn't even buy a burnt-out methhouse for that here in #Failifornia.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2019 10:25 PM (tVQUs)

88 Jewells - Are the keychains at your website?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:25 PM (xSo9G)

89
Idiot mayor Sylvester Turner in leading the re-election vote.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 10:26 PM (7rVsF)

90 Well, hell! I read the content!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 14, 2019 10:26 PM (CjFDo)

91 ❘❘❘❙❙❚♠ Voila! I am arrived.

___

This guy is right.

No, he isn't. It's "Daylight Saving," no "s" at the end.

Other than that, yeah.

Posted by: mindful webworker - we hates DST we hates it forever at December 14, 2019 10:27 PM (f/e+k)

92 60 Ladyl.. twelve people?? Jesus. I freak out over the 4 I have to do.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:20 PM (dUJdY)

I don't have to buy all the gifts for each stocking, but if I only buy two per stocking that's still 24 stocking stuffers. And I never know what to get!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:27 PM (TdMsT)

93
Well, hell! I read the content!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


Don't do that again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 10:28 PM (7rVsF)

94 Hey Insom, I see you survived another night of debauchery and made it home.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:28 PM (HaL55)

95 Don't do that again.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

............
I should know better.. but I was eating a sammich and drinking a beer.. got distracted!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 14, 2019 10:28 PM (CjFDo)

96 lol Winston!! You know I will take care of ya'll. And I WAS only joking. He's a gem..just drives me a bit nuts sometimes.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (dUJdY)

97 Ah, Dinner Cat

Posted by: logprof at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (oZuI0)

98 Graveyard Coyotes can be kept at bay by wearing wolfbane around the neck.

Also works for werewolves and lesser wolves of every sort. Heed this warning and advise.

Posted by: The Count at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (XXaRO)

99 34 lol Tuna.. I can be brazen at times. But no I've never asked a neighbor to shovel our driveway. We hire someone at the beginning of winter. Sort of on retainer kind of thing. If it snows more than 3 inches you will come and shovel our driveway.
Posted by: Jewells45


That's what I do. It's a good feeling looking at a foot of snow and knowing I won't have a heart attack moving it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (+lVUW)

100 *With a protractor like this, perhaps geometry would have been easier.*



The only exception to the No Math rule at the ONT!

Posted by: tbodie



Math? I thought geometry was just points, lines and shapes.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (LOq4H)

101 70 Oh anyone that wasn't around earlier, AoS keychains back in stock!! One of youse guys already ordered one.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (dUJdY)

I just ordered one too. Thanks Jewells they look great.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 10:30 PM (D46E0)

102
*With a protractor like this, perhaps geometry would have been easier.*


That profile looks just like the ever-popular "Haulin' Ass" mud flaps on every third OTR truck that passes you on the interstate.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:30 PM (HaL55)

103 ..I don't have to buy all the gifts for each stocking, but if I only buy two per stocking that's still 24 stocking stuffers. And I never know what to get!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:27 PM (TdMsT)



Do *not* sub-contract this job out to Masturbatin' Pete.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2019 10:30 PM (QzJWU)

104 Mike Hammer yes.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 10:31 PM (dUJdY)

105 Hah! Jewells
I knew that. This place brings out my better nature. Which amazes me that I still have one.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:31 PM (Tt761)

106

Do *not* sub-contract this job out to Masturbatin' Pete.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2019 10:30 PM (QzJWU)


OMG.

I will not!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

107 re Turner, we just have to go back to Lee Kwan Yew. In a multiracial 'democracy', people vote skin. They don't vote policy.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 10:32 PM (ykYG2)

108 Thanks for posting one of my favorite Christmas songs, MH

Great live version even though Ian Anderson looks like an Oxford professor and Greg Lake looked like an owner of a mobbed up Italian restaurant

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 10:34 PM (qAR6u)

109 My washing machine decided to break down this past week. It couldn't have broken down on or right after black friday. Too much to ask. To top it off we'll have a ten day wait for delivery. So the mountains of laundry are slowly but steadily building.

During the Obama years, this would have qualified your home for Superfund status, and you would have been forcibly evicted.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:34 PM (L2ZTs)

110 I don't have to buy all the gifts for each stocking, but if I only buy two per stocking that's still 24 stocking stuffers. And I never know what to get!

Posted by: Ladyl

---

Throw a couple of Chocolate coins in each one, some lint and a few bread crumbs.

It's the season to be a giver!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 10:34 PM (Y4EXg)

111 B'Gal and I saw a "Warning Coyote" sign near downtown O'town last week.

That was a first. Been hearing about them for a couple of years, but never a sign like that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:35 PM (HaL55)

112 Moar Tull! Excellent! Greensleeved"on that album is really good too. I've used it as intro music for our Christmas Eve service at times. Livens things up a bit.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 10:35 PM (7ZQe3)

113 *Math? I thought geometry was just points, lines and shapes.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (LOq4H)*

They told me it was math in HS.

Posted by: tbodie at December 14, 2019 10:35 PM (V0CWC)

114 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (fNFgo)

If warm chocolate chip cookies kill you, you deserve to be dead

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (aA3+G)

115 That's one of the things I really like about Christmas. It's the only time of year where it's considered okay to be obsessed with stockings :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (L2ZTs)

116 Greta Thunberg apologizes for her 'against the wall' comment, says it was a translation error. Uh huh.

She also said "this is what happens when you improvise speeches in a second language. But of course I apologize if anyone misunderstood this."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:22 PM (L2ZTs)

Translation Error? I won't believe it until I see what it was translated from.

Swedish is very closely related to English, most "translation errors" between the two tend to be relatively minor things like using the wrong word order or the use of out of place, uncommon words like "glistering". I seriously doubt there could be a translation error that massive and consequential between Swedish and English.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (tVQUs)

117 Is she a medical doctor or an piled higher and deeper doctor?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Her doctorate is in Education, iirc.

The pinnacle of human achievement.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (Z4rgH)

118 36 There's not enough primer in the world for that house. Tear out the walls. Re-sheetrock everything.
Posted by: Rusty Nail


When I bought this house it had that fakey dark brown "wood". You know, that cheap crap builders used in developments in the 70's. It was used in all the trim, the kitchen cabinets, wainscotting in the dining room, and as paneling in the family room.

So, I paid to have the inside of the house painted, including all of that dark brown "wood". Part way through the job they called me and told me they had to add to the estimate because it was going to take an extra coat to cover that chocolate brown paneling, etc.

It was well worth it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (+lVUW)

119 NY Times.

Hermit Crab Wealth Inequality.

Really.

https://tinyurl.com/vzce98q

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 10:37 PM (D46E0)

120 Surfperch, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (L2ZTs)

121 Ladyl

How about some small lumps of coal for the stockings?
Tastefully wrapped of course.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (Tt761)

122 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/wpf5ra4

https://tinyurl.com/qm9n3fk

https://tinyurl.com/vqgb8qw

https://tinyurl.com/uozbumf

https://tinyurl.com/vft6new

https://tinyurl.com/yx7n96sc

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (qAR6u)

123 Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:29 PM (+lVUW)

I guess I will forever, I ordered a plow and a snowblower today

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (aA3+G)

124 Dr. Amy Bishop. She didn't get tenure, took a gun into a department meeting, and started shooting.

Posted by: Lirio100 at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (JK7Jw)

125 When I bought this house it had that fakey dark brown "wood". You know, that cheap crap builders used in developments in the 70's.

Posted by: nerdygirl

---

One of the homes I rehabed had that also - except in the kitchen, it had fake red "brick" paneling. When I ripped that down there was wallpaper with six foot daisies printed.

It was an abomination.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 10:39 PM (Y4EXg)

126 If warm chocolate chip cookies kill you, you deserve to be dead
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

Agreed! But what a way to go!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:40 PM (fNFgo)

127 Wonderful as always Mis Hum!

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 10:40 PM (O/X1S)

128 The missile silo story is error-ridden. One would think that a "military history" site would be more careful.

One; the first pic is captioned: "A deactivated Titan II nuclear ICMB is seen in it's silo. GETTY." It's "ICBM", dipshits. (also, apostrophe error!)

Two: "The Titan II carried one enormous warhead with thermonuclear capability equivalent to nine megatons or nine million tons of TNT.

To give some idea of how massive the Titan's explosive capacity was, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was the equivalent of sixteen thousand megatons." How about 16 kilotons, dipshits? Even if one doesn't understand the concepts of kilotons and megatons, how the Hell is "9 twatwaffles" so much greater than "16 thousand twatwaffles"?

The article does not say which site is for sale, but I have visited one on Missile Base Road, near Marana which is about 20 minutes from Tucson on I-10, so that might be it.

And $395000 is about $345000 too much to pay for it. At 50 G's, a do-it-yourselfer like me would snap it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 10:40 PM (Ol3ZL)

129 Mr. Seria & Backwards Boy, glad you liked tonight's music

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:40 PM (aA3+G)

130
Throw a couple of Chocolate coins in each one, some lint and a few bread crumbs.

It's the season to be a giver!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 10:34 PM (Y4EXg)


I'm not Scrooge!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:41 PM (TdMsT)

131 121 Ladyl

How about some small lumps of coal for the stockings?
Tastefully wrapped of course.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (Tt761)


Actually, that might be kinda funny...

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:42 PM (TdMsT)

132 Dr. Amy Bishop. She didn't get tenure, took a gun into a department meeting, and started shooting.

Posted by: Lirio100 at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (JK7Jw)


She also shot and killed her brother in 1986, but got off on the charges because Mom said it was 'an accident'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 10:43 PM (Z4rgH)

133 You betcha MisHum. There's a Tull for every occasion.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (7ZQe3)

134 94 Hey Insom, I see you survived another night of debauchery and made it home.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:28 PM (HaL55)

I did indeed. I've gotten good at weathering all manners of abuse.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (NWiLs)

135 Greta Thunberg apologizes for her 'against the wall' comment, says it was a translation error. Uh huh.

She also said "this is what happens when you improvise speeches in a second language. But of course I apologize if anyone misunderstood this."

Not feeling the remorse, Greta. Not feeling it.
Posted by: qdpsteve


More like, this is what happens when you let an idiot kid think she's qualified to tell all the adults in the world what to do.
She needs to be told to shut up and go study for her geometry test.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

136 And $395000 is about $345000 too much to pay for it. At 50 G's, a do-it-yourselfer like me would snap it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


The asbestos mitigation would be a little pricey on top of it. Interesting the old KCBS building, FULL of history, was cheaper to demolish than rehabilitate.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (LOq4H)

137 123; what kind of snowblower, mishum?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (KP5rU)

138 nerdygirl, hear hear!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 10:45 PM (L2ZTs)

139 People placed against a wall, in Sweden, were simply putting together a row of wooden shelves. It is quite innocent.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2019 10:45 PM (LxTcq)

140 I did indeed. I've gotten good at weathering all manners of abuse.

"I've got people waiting in line to abuse me."

/Bill Murray

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:45 PM (HaL55)

141 KTE just learned that a girl she went to HS with, but 2 years younger than her, died. Either suicide or OD, not sure.
Really pretty, sweet, smart kid, just 21

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:46 PM (G546f)

142 I did indeed. I've gotten good at weathering all manners of abuse.
-----

I make people take a number.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)

143 141 KTE just learned that a girl she went to HS with, but 2 years younger than her, died. Either suicide or OD, not sure.
Really pretty, sweet, smart kid, just 21
Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:46 PM (G546f)

That's awful.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:47 PM (NWiLs)

144 Why are those people messing with a cat with a plate of vegetables?

Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2019 10:47 PM (zD38/)

145 Watched the 1951 Scrooge movie starring Alistair Sim

At that time Sim was usually cast in comedy films, so today it would be like Eric Idle or John Cleese playing Scrooge.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 10:48 PM (qAR6u)

146 139 People placed against a wall, in Sweden, were simply putting together a row of wooden shelves. It is quite innocent.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2019 10:45 PM (LxTcq)

IKEA You !

Posted by: Greta at December 14, 2019 10:48 PM (D46E0)

147 142 I did indeed. I've gotten good at weathering all manners of abuse.
-----

I make people take a number.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)

I'm not that organized.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:48 PM (NWiLs)

148 How about some small lumps of coal for the stockings?
Tastefully wrapped of course.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (Tt761)

I almost put a lump of coal in my sister's stocking as a kid.

I only decided against it when I thought about the potential consequences of my actions.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2019 10:49 PM (tVQUs)

149 Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (KP5rU)

28" DR

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:49 PM (aA3+G)

150 KTE just learned that a girl she went to HS with, but 2 years younger than her, died. Either suicide or OD, not sure.

Really pretty, sweet, smart kid, just 21


That's bad enough on its own, but this time of year makes it worse. Prayers up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:49 PM (HaL55)

151 capitalism still reigns supreme and I can buy a freaking brand new super duper large capacity washing machine of the color of my choice unhindered by the commie and environazis scum!
Posted by: Floridachick


How DARE you!? You've destroyed my childhood and we're all gonna die because you won't wash your clothes in the river!!
Against the wall, you Trump supporter!

Posted by: Scoldilocks at December 14, 2019 10:49 PM (+lVUW)

152 Marilyn Monroe "protractor" is not a protractor. It is basically a replacement for the drawing tool known as a "French curve". I want one, though!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 10:49 PM (Ol3ZL)

153 "145 Watched the 1951 Scrooge movie starring Alistair Sim"

All others are but a dull imitation.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 10:49 PM (D46E0)

154 123; what kind of snowblower, mishum?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (KP5rU)


He hired Ozzie Osbourne.

My word as a Biden.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 10:50 PM (Z4rgH)

155 1 Dunno if the Horde has seen this: Jeff Van Drew (D-NJ) is switching to (R-NJ) after a talk with PDT

it really is
KTE wasn't close to her, but had the vague impression she'd been in rehab / NA a while
so sad to see kids doing this

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:50 PM (G546f)

156 Nail in my head from my creator
You gave me life, now show me how to live

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:51 PM (NWiLs)

157 KTE just learned that a girl she went to HS with, but 2 years younger than her, died. Either suicide or OD, not sure.

---

There's been a rash of that in our area too. All ages. Makes you wonder if there's a common thread, besides depression,. What a horrible thing

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 10:51 PM (7ZQe3)

158 149: supposed to be a good machine.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:51 PM (KP5rU)

159 I ordered a plow and a snowblower today
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:38 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

So we can hire you to clear snow for us? Horde discount?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:52 PM (fNFgo)

160 155 oops paste error - meant to reply to.insomniac

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:52 PM (G546f)

161 Who the hell is Dr. Amy Bishop?

Oh wait, you mean Doctor Amy Fucking Bishop?

Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 10:52 PM (7HyDs)

162 He was the team captain and starting point guard for a team whose sole existence is to lose to the Harlem Globetrotters.

-
Can we make him an honorary GOPe-er?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 14, 2019 10:53 PM (+y/Ru)

163 160 155 oops paste error - meant to reply to.insomniac
Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:52 PM (G546f)

That makes more sense now.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:53 PM (NWiLs)

164 5 Watched the 1951 Scrooge movie starring Alistair Sim"

All others are but a dull imitation.
Posted by: jsg
-----

*fist bump*

The rest are cheesy wannabes.

I have the DVD.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:53 PM (CDGwz)

165 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:52 PM (fNFgo)

The mileage charge is gonna be a bitch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:53 PM (aA3+G)

166 That makes more sense now.
Posted by: Insomniac

yeah, that must have been leftover copied stuff from.an earlier thread

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:53 PM (G546f)

167 Can we make him an honorary GOPe-er?

I think the position of Paul Ryan is already filled.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 10:54 PM (HaL55)

168 oops paste error
Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:52 PM (G546f)


Rookie mistake.

Posted by: Joe "Joe Biden" Biden at December 14, 2019 10:54 PM (t+qrx)

169 Why are those people messing with a cat with a plate of vegetables?
Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2019 10:47 PM (zD38/)
* * * *

I think the cat is messing with the people... from the memes I have seen, anyway. They are hilarious!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 10:54 PM (fNFgo)

170 i usually abuse them first. get the niceties out of the way quick. i'm not waiting around for anybody. fuck em.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 10:54 PM (KP5rU)

171 Had to look up "French curve", which linked to another article about a delightfully named device called a "lesbian rule". The more you know.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2019 10:18 PM (I99aF)

(stage whisper) "Wait until I show him the hermaphrodite calipers."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 10:54 PM (Ol3ZL)

172 Is Greta going to find out where we fans really stand?

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 10:55 PM (ScWBu)

173 Asst. DA here died yesterday. Fentanyl + alcohol.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:55 PM (CDGwz)

174 Did I say "translation error"?

I meant "comprehension error."

Posted by: Gerta Thunderborg, High Priestess of the Ecological Conflagration Cult at December 14, 2019 10:55 PM (f/e+k)

175 I just discovered murderpedia.org while searching for info on Dr. Bishop murdering her brother.

I shoulda known there'd be a dedicated wiki...

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 10:56 PM (Z4rgH)

176 124 Dr. Amy Bishop. She didn't get tenure, took a gun into a department meeting, and started shooting.
Posted by: Lirio100


But she had that doctoral degree, dammit.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (+lVUW)

177 Asst. DA here died yesterday. Fentanyl + alcohol.

Sounds like a suicide or maybe a hit. Definitely time to look at the books. And at his boss

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (ykYG2)

178 IKEA You !

Posted by: Greta
________

Aw, don't Saab.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (ScWBu)

179 173 Asst. DA here died yesterday. Fentanyl + alcohol.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

I've heard some versions of fentanyl will kill you regardless - do they think it's accidental OD?

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (G546f)

180 Right after watching Scrooge, I watched Night of the Hunter

Robert Mitchum was born to play sinister and menacing characters

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (qAR6u)

181 People often have demons we just don't know about. God knows I have mine. And I wanted to be dead well before hitting 21, but that's a whole other story.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (NWiLs)

182 >>>Can we make him an honorary GOPe-er?<<<

The DC NeverTrumpers!

https://youtu.be/QaNhdA5pjBA

Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2019 10:58 PM (zD38/)

183 Where is WaterCow?

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 10:58 PM (TdMsT)

184 I've heard some versions of fentanyl will kill you regardless - do they think it's accidental OD?

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform

Did this person know the Clintons?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 10:58 PM (LOq4H)

185 Asst. DA here died yesterday. Fentanyl + alcohol.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 10:55 PM (CDGwz)


I wonder how many successful drug cases he has prosecuted.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 10:58 PM (Z4rgH)

186 The fentanyl on the street is strong as hell from what I hear. Seems like unintentional OD is a pretty easy thing to happen.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:59 PM (NWiLs)

187 Didn't DOCTOR AMY BISHOP get married at some point?

tinyurl.com/yagn6oox

Mother. Of. Four. She must have been an absolute wildcat in the sheets.

btw, the article mentions that Amy has said sorry. For the murders.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 10:59 PM (ykYG2)

188 wonder how many successful drug cases he has prosecuted.

seems he just sentenced one to execution

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:00 PM (ykYG2)

189 People often have demons we just don't know about. God knows I have mine. And I wanted to be dead well before hitting 21, but that's a whole other story.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (NWiLs)
* * * *

Glad you are still with us, Insom.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:00 PM (fNFgo)

190 Alcohol plus opioids seems a sure fire recipe for respiratory arrest.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:01 PM (NWiLs)

191 Dr. Amy Bishop. She didn't get tenure

-
Next best thing. She's set for life.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 14, 2019 11:01 PM (+y/Ru)

192 Glad you are still with us, Insom.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:00 PM (fNFgo)

That's very kind, thank you.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (NWiLs)

193 Ladyl, are the stockings for adults, kids or a mix? Go with some candy and then something practical, like a mini flashlight or first aid kit. The dollar store is a great place to look for stocking stuffers, or the dollar spot at target, if you shop there. I don't know if Wally-world has a similar area full of dollar items, but I suspect they would.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (mFoNl)

194 181 People often have demons we just don't know about. God knows I have mine. And I wanted to be dead well before hitting 21, but that's a whole other story.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (NWiLs)


Stick around, Insom. You are a favorite here.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (TdMsT)

195 Thanks for all the love you guys. Keychains are almost gone... but more coming!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (dUJdY)

196 Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (TdMsT)

You're simply too kind, Ladyl.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:03 PM (NWiLs)

197
That's very kind, thank you.
Posted by: Insomniac

Insom, you are one of the pillars of the blog. We love you, you know.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:03 PM (mFoNl)

198 hai moki !

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:03 PM (ykYG2)

199 Where is WaterCow?

Posted by: Ladyl
________

Hi, Ladyl!! I'm just chillaxing. Trump is getting IMPEACHED and I can't help but feel that my Internet trolling efforts helped to make that happen!!!!

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (ScWBu)

200
193 Ladyl, are the stockings for adults, kids or a mix? Go with some candy and then something practical, like a mini flashlight or first aid kit. The dollar store is a great place to look for stocking stuffers, or the dollar spot at target, if you shop there. I don't know if Wally-world has a similar area full of dollar items, but I suspect they would.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (mFoNl)


Four children and eight adults. I'm going to try Tuesday Morning-- they often have good things. And I'll definitely do candy, hot sauce, etc.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (TdMsT)

201 hai boulder!!! what's shakin'?

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (mFoNl)

202 Hi, Ladyl!! I'm just chillaxing. Trump is getting IMPEACHED and I can't help but feel that my Internet trolling efforts helped to make that happen!!!!
Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (ScWBu)

Aha! Fock Sail!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (Ol3ZL)

203 I'm reeeeealy chillaxing.

Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (ScWBu)

204
Hi, Ladyl!! I'm just chillaxing. Trump is getting IMPEACHED and I can't help but feel that my Internet trolling efforts helped to make that happen!!!!
Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (ScWBu)


But but but --where's WaterCow????

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (TdMsT)

205 Isom.

Gotta keep you around. You're the only one I can count on to get the Covfefe delivered.

*cryptic remark

But yeah, the package arrived today. Thanks!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (QzJWU)

206 nerdygirl: She needs to be told to shut up and go study for her geometry test.

Milaldy sez: We'll send her a Marilyn Protractor.

Posted by: mindful webworker - she gives me all my best lines at December 14, 2019 11:05 PM (f/e+k)

207
Asst. DA here died yesterday. Fentanyl + alcohol.

Posted by: Mike Hammer


They should name a drink after that.

Lights Out?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 14, 2019 11:05 PM (4kUit)

208 The Bidens are Married...with Children on crack and Thunderbird.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 11:05 PM (D46E0)

209 @33
That's almost as bad as eating truck stop sushi.

Posted by: White Rabbit Object at December 14, 2019 11:05 PM (U/vzj)

210 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 14, 2019 11:05 PM (Zo3HG)

211 Aha! Fock Sail!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
________

Nuh-uh!!

Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:05 PM (ScWBu)

212 Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:03 PM (mFoNl)

Gonna make me blush...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (NWiLs)

213 203 I'm reeeeealy chillaxing.
Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (ScWBu)


THERE you are!!!

You kinda failed on the the British election, though.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (TdMsT)

214 But but but --where's WaterCow????

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (TdMsT)

And... WHO IS PHONE?

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (qAR6u)

215 God love you, Ladyl. That's a lot to have to get together. I hope it all comes together easily for you!

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (mFoNl)

216 I've been imagining how to colonise Venus (the planet). Just trying to figure out how to get a story around it all.

You ?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (ykYG2)

217 205 Isom.

Gotta keep you around. You're the only one I can count on to get the Covfefe delivered.

*cryptic remark

But yeah, the package arrived today. Thanks!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2019 11:04 PM (QzJWU)

Excellent, and you are welcome.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (NWiLs)

218 also we need Insomn to deliver the big bag of dicks to Adam Schiff

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:07 PM (ykYG2)

219 Cookies make an excellent dessert with a meal of biscuits and soup, just sayin'
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

Finally, dietary advice that makes perfect sense!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:07 PM (BiNEL)

220 So much happiness here. 'fraid to ask a question.

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:07 PM (O/X1S)

221 196 Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:02 PM (TdMsT)

You're simply too kind, Ladyl.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:03 PM (NWiLs)


Well --I just love you to the ends of the earth, even though we've never met!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:08 PM (TdMsT)

222 218 also we need Insomn to deliver the big bag of dicks to Adam Schiff
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:07 PM (ykYG2)

Heh. Need to call my supplier, I'm almost out...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:08 PM (NWiLs)

223 But but but --where's WaterCow????

Posted by: Ladyl
________

The office offered a seminar this past week about NEVER admitting to making a mistake. I'm just going through some of the hand-outs.

Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:08 PM (ScWBu)

224 Gave the doggeh the spaghetti pot to lick out. She ought to be able to leave an extra-large mohammed out in the back yard snow tomorrow.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (Ol3ZL)

225 anybody here have a jeep wrangler? any good, or junk?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (KP5rU)

226 216- rewriting my ya WWII poland book, and commiserating with Mr. Moki who is on his second week of chemo cream. He looks like death, and feels like it. He accidentally got a little on me, and I got sick from it. It's been a journey...

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (mFoNl)

227 So much happiness here. 'fraid to ask a question.
Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:07 PM (O/X1S)
* * * *

Ask away!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (fNFgo)

228 Grandkids are spending the night and this is what I learned. There's a shitload of amateur stop action Transformer videos on YouTube.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 14, 2019 11:10 PM (+y/Ru)

229 Well --I just love you to the ends of the earth, even though we've never met!
Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:08 PM (TdMsT)

{{{Ladyl}}}

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:10 PM (NWiLs)

230 lol.. busted!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 11:11 PM (dUJdY)

231 Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:07 PM (O/X1S)

Go ahead
We're the Horde

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 11:11 PM (aA3+G)

232 The big problem with buying a former missile silo to survive a zombie apocalypse is what if it is old fashioned nuclear Armageddon?

You would end up getting hit with a just in case strike during the bounce the rubble phase.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at December 14, 2019 11:11 PM (B06Zw)

233 175 I just discovered murderpedia.org while searching for info on Dr. Bishop murdering her brother.
Posted by: GnuBreed


I used to watch true crime networks like "ID" and "Justice" , but I stopped. It was just depressing. A lot of it was spouses, significant others, and family members murdering each other. There are kids who murder their parents for inheritances and life insurance.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:11 PM (+lVUW)

234 Grandkids are spending the night and this is what I
learned. There's a shitload of amateur stop action Transformer videos
on YouTube.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler



Heh, no 53rd screening of Frozen?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (LOq4H)

235 A D.C. resident may have inadvertently set their own apartment on fire in an attempt to scare away what is believed to be a squirrel with a lit stick of incense.



What was the squirrel doing with the incense?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (TFr9u)

236 i ask questions all the time. no one ever answers. ask away.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (KP5rU)

237 I've heard some versions of fentanyl will kill you regardless - do they think it's accidental OD?
Posted by: votermom
------

They are calling it an 'accident'. Pretty generous considering fentanyl was involved.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (CDGwz)

238 Gnight y'all. Much love and sweet dreams to all of you!

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (mFoNl)

239 Four days until the one-year-since of the suicide of my oldest friend's youngest child. Beautiful boy, caught in the riptides of cultural confusion. Bless his mama.

Posted by: mindful webworker - life is hard at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (f/e+k)

240 People often have demons we just don't know about. God knows I have mine. And I wanted to be dead well before hitting 21, but that's a whole other story.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 10:57 PM (NWiLs)

Insom, I think everyone has demons, but some demons are more fierce than others, and some people are stronger than others.
I'm glad you keep fighting yours, don't listen to them my brother!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:13 PM (BiNEL)

241 215 God love you, Ladyl. That's a lot to have to get together. I hope it all comes together easily for you!
Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (mFoNl)


I got my calendar out and have scheduled the rest of the shopping, wrapping and cooking (still don't know if I'm supposed to bring food). I've got an out of town event all day Wednesday and I'm super over-scheduled for tennis (they're desperate for subs right now). My own fault, of course.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:13 PM (TdMsT)

242 Four days until the one-year-since of the suicide of my oldest friend's youngest child. Beautiful boy, caught in the riptides of cultural confusion. Bless his mama.
Posted by: mindful webworker

----

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:13 PM (Y4EXg)

243
Frosty The Snowman by Leon Redbone with Dr John

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAtZBE5XXFo

Both of these men went mort in 2019, just a week apart.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (4kUit)

244 It was an evil squirrel and he needed the incense, a bell, and a book to send it back into the dimension whence it came.

Alex The Chick would understand.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (ykYG2)

245 My friend {{{Insom}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (TdMsT)

246 I currently have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I really like it. I've also have owned an older Jeep Wrangler, I'd have to look it up but maybe mid to late 90's, and I've had an early 80's Jeep CJ7. Oh, and a 2008 Jeep Commander that I got rid of to get The 2018 Jeep. So, I guess I kind of like them.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (Rz2Nc)

247 You kinda failed on the the British election, though.

Posted by: Ladyl
________

Independent and sovereign socialist dystopias totes work for our side too you know.

Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (ScWBu)

248 246; good to know. thanks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:15 PM (KP5rU)

249 242 Four days until the one-year-since of the suicide of my oldest friend's youngest child. Beautiful boy, caught in the riptides of cultural confusion. Bless his mama.
Posted by: mindful webworker

----


Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:13 PM (Y4EXg)


So terribly sorry.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:15 PM (TdMsT)

250 Oh that was for this:

anybody here have a jeep wrangler? any good, or junk?
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (KP5rU)

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:15 PM (Rz2Nc)

251 accidental fentanyl is like accidental anal. I mean, come on. you knew what you were risking when you asked for it

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:15 PM (ykYG2)

252 Four children and eight adults. I'm going to try Tuesday Morning-- they often have good things. And I'll definitely do candy, hot sauce, etc.

Travel samples @Walgreen's.

Practical & fit in your purse / backpack.

Posted by: Adriane the Best Policy Critic ... at December 14, 2019 11:15 PM (LPnfS)

253 I've been imagining how to colonise Venus (the planet). Just trying to figure out how to get a story around it all.

You ?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:06 PM (ykYG2)

Seed the planet with airborne algae, or maybe algae-coated balloons? Algae colonies grow, eventually become to massive for the balloons to support, and fall to the surface, where they become coal or oil, because no oxygen to burn them up. Let it go on long enough, atmosphere is shrunken, oxygen is liberated, and most of the carbon in the CO2 is sequestered on the surface as hydrocarbons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:16 PM (Ol3ZL)

254
Independent and sovereign socialist dystopias totes work for our side too you know.
Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (ScWBu)


Bless your sweet heart.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:16 PM (TdMsT)

255 Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (mFoNl)

Modi, I have become an irregular and didn't know this, prayers up for the both of you!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (BiNEL)

256 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:13 PM (BiNEL)

Some days they're louder than others but I keep on keeping on.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

257 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:09 PM (fNFgo)

Dad passed away 2 days before his 79th birthday in August 18. Hospice kicked him out and my daughter
and I took care of him 24/7 till he passed.

I found a beautiful Christmas card he got for her and never gave. They were very close. What do I do with it? I want to give to her, but what should I write?

Having a bad night, missing other daughter who this year too.

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (O/X1S)

258 Modi, darn clumsy fingers!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (BiNEL)

259 Third time is the charm Moki,

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:18 PM (BiNEL)

260 Who passed this year. Eyes are cloudy.

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:18 PM (O/X1S)

261
The office offered a seminar this past week about NEVER admitting to making a mistake. I'm just going through some of the hand-outs.
Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:08 PM (ScWBu)


WaterCow--you're doing a fantastic job. Just don't stop being you.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:18 PM (TdMsT)

262 and most of the carbon in the CO2 is sequestered on the surface as hydrocarbons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:16 PM



And then, we figure out to way to send St Greta there!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 14, 2019 11:19 PM (RwnR0)

263 Beautiful boy, caught in the riptides of cultural confusion. Bless his mama.
Posted by: mindful webworker - life is hard at December 14, 2019 11:12 PM (f/e+k)


mindful - may your Best Friend be blessed with a Peace that passeth understanding. My she be filled with Strength & Grace to carry on for herself & her other children.

Posted by: Adriane the Best Policy Critic ... at December 14, 2019 11:19 PM (LPnfS)

264
Ookla was Thundarr's sidekick; he was a moki.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 14, 2019 11:19 PM (4kUit)

265 257: sit down at a quiet place with the card. your dad will guide you. stay strong, my friend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:19 PM (KP5rU)

266 230 lol.. busted!!

???

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 11:19 PM (D46E0)

267 And then, we figure out to way to send St Greta there!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 14, 2019 11:19 PM (RwnR0)

"Quick, Robin! To the Batamaran!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (Ol3ZL)

268 260 Who passed this year. Eyes are cloudy.
Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:18 PM (O/X1S)

Oh man. {{{Infidel}}}

Did your dad write anything in the Christmas card?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (NWiLs)

269 Thanks for the pics of the missile silos in Arizona.

I spent most of first grade in Arizona when my father worked on those silos, so it was interesting to get a glimpse of what he worked on all those years ago.

Posted by: girldog at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (SJiiM)

270 Ugh, that's rough Infidel. My thoughts are with you.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (Y4EXg)

271 btw, the article mentions that Amy has said sorry. For the murders.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo


Not sorry enough to take responsibility and accept staying in prison where she belongs.
She has managed to come up with a number of excuses, including mental illness, allergies, and steroids. Then there are her complaints about her lousy lawyers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (+lVUW)

272 Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (O/X1S)

Not that I have a clue about dealing with people in general, but I think I would give her the card untouched, but with a cover letter from you saying whatever is in your heart about the three of you!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:21 PM (BiNEL)

273 She has managed to come up with a number of excuses, including mental illness, allergies, and steroids. Then there are her complaints about her lousy lawyers.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (+lVUW)

People always bitch about lawyers.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:21 PM (NWiLs)

274

Amy Bishop admitted to murdering her brother?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 14, 2019 11:21 PM (4kUit)

275 265 257: sit down at a quiet place with the card. your dad will guide you. stay strong, my friend.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:19

PM (KP5rU)

Sorta what I thought. Pray and it will come to me

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:22 PM (O/X1S)

276 Hi, Ladyl!! I'm just chillaxing. Trump is getting IMPEACHED and I can't help but feel that my Internet trolling efforts helped to make that happen!!!!
Posted by: FireHorse


From your keyboard to Pelosi's ear.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:22 PM (+lVUW)

277 I found a beautiful Christmas card he got for her and never gave. They were very close. What do I do with it? I want to give to her, but what should I write?

...
Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (O/X1S)

Just give it to her. I really don't think you have to write anything. She will know.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 14, 2019 11:22 PM (x8Wzq)

278 Infidel--Im sorry for your loss. I think it would be nice to share the card with your daughter.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:22 PM (TdMsT)

279 AOP: I was going to fly a wide winged, polymer aerocraft against the 100 m/s winds at the equator, at 70 km up where the air pressure is like cruising altitude here.

Partly buoyed by superheated carbon monoxide, partly by aerodynamic lift, partly by lower gravity over Venus. The dynamos are powered by solar, which is stronger than here.

The aerocraft would be dragging a fuselage cabin behind it. Maybe even a big platform for shuttles to land from Earth.

This avoids the sulphuric acid clouds beneath them. Because they are flying against the wind they can be in daylight forever (Venus' "day" is stupid slow, as well as retrograde).

On a scale of Stevie Nicks to Hunter Biden, how much cocaine is this idea worth?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ykYG2)

280 Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:17 PM (O/X1S)

Will be a year since I lost my father on Feb 5.

The firsts without are really hard. I can't imagine your pain losing a daughter too. Praying for your family.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (D46E0)

281 talking about dr. amy fucking bishop at christmas? might as well discuss the redeeming qualities of charlie manson.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (KP5rU)

282 Sweet Infidel,

Your instinct to give your daughter the card is a good one, I believe. She would treasure it all the more knowing he got it especially for her. Perhaps write nothing. Explain it to her in person preferably, or in a separate note if that is not possible. The blank card will convey a moving message of love and loss as no written words can possibly do.

Sorry you are having a bad night. Hang in there. We are here for you.

{{{Infidel}}}

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (fNFgo)

283
Oh man. {{{Infidel}}}

Did your dad write anything in the Christmas card?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:20 PM (NWiLs)

No.

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (O/X1S)

284 Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:08 PM (ScWBu)

Can I get a copy of the briefing? I have some great footnotes I could add!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (BiNEL)

285 Bless your sweet heart.

Posted by: Ladyl
________

Thanks!!

Now to finish reading the content of this post.

Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ScWBu)

286
Four children and eight adults. I'm going to try Tuesday Morning-- they often have good things. And I'll definitely do candy, hot sauce, etc.
Posted by: Ladyl


What? No underwear and socks?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (+lVUW)

287 {{{infidel}}} i'm sorry. i am sure whatever you write will be well received.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (ykYG2)

288 Not that I have a clue about dealing with people in general, but I think
I would give her the card untouched, but with a cover letter from you
saying whatever is in your heart about the three of you!


I was going to suggest something along those lines.

Prayers up for all the Morons in need of them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (HaL55)

289 Infidel - may the memory of your Father's Wisdom and your Daughter's Joy be with you always ...

Posted by: Adriane the Best Policy Critic ... at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (LPnfS)

290 What? No underwear and socks?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (+lVUW)


For these picky people? Heavens, no!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (TdMsT)

291
Thanks!!

Now to finish reading the content of this post.
Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ScWBu)


{{{WaterCow}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:25 PM (TdMsT)

292 (Venus' "day" is stupid slow, as well as retrograde).
------

Yeah...really slow. Longer than a Venus year. I've always thought that a Venus calendar would be interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 11:26 PM (xSo9G)

293 I should buy the Missile Silo-
Back in the 80's the military was getting rid of them and we had one on a 12 acre site on our farm in KS. We offered to buy it back from the military as it was originally our land, but they said No,No,No, that's just crazy. So they blew the whole fucking place up with a jillions pounds of dynamite, smoothed it all flat and gave it back to us. I took pictures from the air as it was blown up and it was wild. Stupid fuckers.

Posted by: DBCooper at December 14, 2019 11:26 PM (bttOm)

294 Yeah...really slow. Longer than a Venus year. I've always thought that a Venus calendar would be interesting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 11:26 PM (xSo9G)


Can't be any worse than the weather forecasts.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:27 PM (t+qrx)

295 On a scale of Stevie Nicks to Hunter Biden, how much cocaine is this idea worth?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ykYG2)

I think this should be calibrated in standard Biden lines!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:27 PM (BiNEL)

296 I had a 1942 Willy's jeep...my first daily driver....then life....
wish I coulda kept that awesome ride , but life and an offer to buy far above what I bought..back in my 20's....and rent was due and I was partying FAR TOO MUCH.....and...hey, I could tell you some stories...tell you some lies...Haight-Ashbury...oh dang...they were some total freak people.....now they are deep in the gubermint and I battle on....




Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 14, 2019 11:27 PM (kFkpX)

297 lost my father in 2005. this time of the year has it's' days yet. getting closer to my turn every fucking day.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:27 PM (KP5rU)

298 Now to finish reading the content of this post.
Posted by: WaterCow at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ScWBu)

Wait, a second. Since when did trolls care about reading content. Hmmmm.

Lol

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (Rz2Nc)

299 yep

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (kFkpX)

300 Can't be any worse than the weather forecasts.

I'd think those would be rather monotonous.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (HaL55)

301 Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (HaL55)

I like your advice, leave card untouched

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (aA3+G)

302 redeeming qualities of charlie manson.

Posted by: chavez the hugo


You do know President Trump pardoned him?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (LOq4H)

303 246 I currently have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I really like it. I've also have owned an older Jeep Wrangler, I'd have to look it up but maybe mid to late 90's, and I've had an early 80's Jeep CJ7. Oh, and a 2008 Jeep Commander that I got rid of to get The 2018 Jeep. So, I guess I kind of like them.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:14 PM (Rz2Nc)

My favorite Jeep CJ

https://tinyurl.com/rwqpxzm

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (qAR6u)

304 No.

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (O/X1S)

I try not to stick my nose in these situations, because I am an unromantic ass sometimes.

But...there is absolutely nothing here other than the joy of your father thinking enough to buy a sweet card for your daughter. It is 100% a good and happy thing, and you should be joyful that you were lucky enough to find it!

Give it to your daughter and laugh and smile and be happy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (wYseH)

305 Ozzie ain't much as a snowblower, but he can do a hella acapella Crazy Train while you shovel your own driveway.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (Z4rgH)

306 Prayers up for all the Morons in need of them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (HaL55)

This, always this!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (BiNEL)

307 224 Gave the doggeh the spaghetti pot to lick out. She ought to be able to leave an extra-large mohammed out in the back yard snow tomorrow.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Good grief. If I let my dog eat anything like that, there would be consequences, smelly, silent, but deadly consequences.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (+lVUW)

308 I just watched Green Book. It was entertaining and the performances were good.
I might watch it again someday.

But because it takes place in 1962, they just HAD to throw a contrived bouquet to the Kennedy's at a key moment in the film.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (o1fzk)

309 I could look this up myself, but does Venus rotate backwards? Clockwise or anti-clockwise? I wonder what a calendar for Uranus would look like, what with it rotating on its side and all...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (RwnR0)

310 when people look down their nose at "wal-mart" and "wal-mart" people "shoppers" it kind off chaps my hide. I get it some stores are in poorer sections. Wal-mart provides more value for the money with most of their products. Wal-mart provides good jobs and competitive pay rates. I get that they sale made in china crap. The people that work there and shop there are not the stereotype. I get it too that some people are just plain weird and fucked up. I am a vet, conservative and Catholic. I have two stents employed by them (5 years total) and I shop there regular like. My son works there (full time with overtime) and makes a good wage for a 21 year old kid. My Mother worked there (with disabilities) fore years. My sister in law for years. My Brother in law for 25+ years and counting. Good people live good lives and raise families on careers at Wal-mart. I get that they have gone "anti" gun (fudd). That should not reflect on the low level employees. Enough of the people of wal-mart crap because it is CRAP.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (0OmEj)

311 Posted by: DBCooper at December 14, 2019 11:26 PM (bttOm)

But they are the brightest & bestest from the Ivy League

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 11:30 PM (aA3+G)

312 chavez the hugo, feeling the same, need to get my shit on order.

But. it's like the mechanic with the broke down car

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:30 PM (O/X1S)

313 I'd think those would be rather monotonous.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (HaL55)


Wait, wasn't there an old short story about a kid in school on Venus, and the class is waiting for the one day of clear weather every hundred years or something. And the classmates are all jerks, and the kid misses the one day of nice weather.

Sorry if I ruined that for anyone. What was that story, though?

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:30 PM (t+qrx)

314 293
I should buy the Missile Silo-

Back in the 80's the military was getting rid of them and we had one
on a 12 acre site on our farm in KS. We offered to buy it back from
the military as it was originally our land, but they said No,No,No,
that's just crazy.



Because you'd be on the Russian's target map.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:31 PM (XzVUd)

315 I just sent this link to Weasel, so maybe it will make it into the gub thread, but PSA is selling a special lower to help fund the VCDL:

https://tinyurl.com/wtbh7ac

Posted by: Bert G at December 14, 2019 11:31 PM (OMsf+)

316 The Jovian lunar calendar would be interesting, too...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 14, 2019 11:31 PM (RwnR0)

317 I should buy the Missile Silo-

Back in the 80's the military was getting rid of them and we had one
on a 12 acre site on our farm in KS. We offered to buy it back from
the military as it was originally our land, but they said No,No,No,
that's just crazy. So they blew the whole fucking place up with a
jillions pounds of dynamite, smoothed it all flat and gave it back to
us. I took pictures from the air as it was blown up and it was wild.
Stupid fuckers.

Posted by: DBCooper



The attack on Cuba was going to be carried out by the missile silos around Spokane. They others were too close. Local rumor. They were 18 minutes from launch...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 11:31 PM (LOq4H)

318 Venus calendar is easy, they use the synodic sync with Earth. 584 days. Regular Hohmann-transfer visits to/from us.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:32 PM (ykYG2)

319 Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (qAR6u)

A man of good taste and discernment as always!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:32 PM (BiNEL)

320 Prayers up for all the Morons in need of them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:24 PM (HaL55)
* * * *

Amen.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:32 PM (fNFgo)

321 hogmartin - Ray Bradbury, All Summer In A Day.

There was a made-for-telly movie. 1976. So they didn't name the planet.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:32 PM (ykYG2)

322 311- Mis H
We offered them 250K for it and they spent more than that blowing it up.

I'd still be living in that bunker...

Posted by: DBCooper at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (bttOm)

323 They? Well, can't blame booze...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (LOq4H)

324 The aerocraft would be dragging a fuselage cabin behind it. Maybe even a big platform for shuttles to land from Earth.

This avoids the sulphuric acid clouds beneath them. Because they are flying against the wind they can be in daylight forever (Venus' "day" is stupid slow, as well as retrograde).

On a scale of Stevie Nicks to Hunter Biden, how much cocaine is this idea worth?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ykYG2)

I think any colonization of Venus that does not involve terraforming it would have to rely upon "floating cities" that somehow fly above the densest part of the atmosphere.

I wonder how many nuclear bombs it would take to blow 4/5 of Venus' atmosphere off into space?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (Ol3ZL)

325 Because you'd be on the Russian's target map.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:31 PM (XzVUd)

Aren't we all ?

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (D46E0)

326 I like your advice, leave card untouched

Thanks but I was just echoing Pug Mahon's advice. If they were close, words might not be needed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (HaL55)

327 309 I wonder what a calendar for Uranus would look like,



It would have a surprising number of otters.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (XzVUd)

328 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (wYseH)

Sometimes?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (aA3+G)

329 hogmartin - Ray Bradbury, All Summer In A Day.

There was a made-for-telly movie. 1976. So they didn't name the planet.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:32 PM (ykYG2)


Thank you!

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:34 PM (t+qrx)

330 Venus calendar is easy, they use the synodic sync with Earth. 584 days. Regular Hohmann-transfer visits to/from us.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:32 PM



Right, then! Why didn't I realise that?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 14, 2019 11:34 PM (RwnR0)

331 My Brother in law for 25+ years and counting. Good people live good lives and raise families on careers at Wal-mart. I get that they have gone "anti" gun (fudd). That should not reflect on the low level employees. Enough of the people of wal-mart crap because it is CRAP.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (0OmEj


I agree with you. Putting down WalMart shoppers is a cheap shot, and says more about those making fun than it does about the people who shop and work there.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:34 PM (TdMsT)

332 Aren't we all ?

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (D46E0)

Perhaps but the enemies missile silos are the prime target and if it looks like a missile solo ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:35 PM (XzVUd)

333 317-
Parabolic Arc.

Posted by: DBCooper at December 14, 2019 11:35 PM (bttOm)

334 If I was in the market, income bracket, and geographical area I'd buy the purple house as is.

Posted by: hadsil at December 14, 2019 11:35 PM (Wdt2K)

335 I'm only hear to keep myself from going away from my keyboard to do....very bad things....If I went away from the keyboard.....that is why I stay at the keyboard....yep

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 14, 2019 11:35 PM (kFkpX)

336 A fine day for team orange.

DEMs are suddenly realizing that this isn't turning out as expected.

And Americans who watch TV are learning that the DEMs have about a dozen Cynthia McKinney clones.

Oh... andhat NJ Congressman from a blue collar district who switched sides? He was from a blue collar district.

Can anyone think of another conservative politician who flipped a bunch of blue collar districts & won in a landslide recently?

Posted by: mnw at December 14, 2019 11:35 PM (Cssks)

337 My favorite Jeep CJ

https://tinyurl.com/rwqpxzm
Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (qAR6u)

Yes, that would be a nice one to have!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:36 PM (Rz2Nc)

338 Infidel, I think Hrothgar said it best. I would leave the card blank and put a small separate note regarding the card and how it "came to be"

I'm so sorry for your losses. This time of year really amplifies the feelings. Take care and know that prayers are being sent for you and your loved ones.

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 11:36 PM (a4qVe)

339

Good evening, good people.

I found something in my bookmarks that had been forgotten,and I wish to share it with y'all.

It's a compilation of President Trump's accomplishments to date. I can't do links on this machine (Because reasons) so here is the address---magapill dot com.
This is for those becoming discouraged by the constant drumbeat of negative from the media and other slime.

May have to post that on the daytime threads, I don't do the comments any more because of the eeyores.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 14, 2019 11:36 PM (KATBx)

340 Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (0OmEj)

Agree. So much agree.

I was gifted by TFG with a staycation in 2009. I did the unemployment thing for half a year, then said fuck it.

for 2 1/2 years I unloaded trucks and hauled product for Walmart. It kept me active, the company was one of the better ones I ever worked for, and best of all, I DID NOT FEEL LIKE SOME KIND OF USELESS POS!!!!

Like you, I get really het up about Walmart being the problem. the individual store will reflect the clientele that was already there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 14, 2019 11:37 PM (x8Wzq)

341 People always bitch about lawyers.
Posted by: Insomniac


Well, apparently she thinks hers were incompetent because they couldn't get her off for murdering 3 people and shooting a couple more, who were, um witnesses.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:37 PM (+lVUW)

342 Can anyone think of another conservative politician who flipped a bunch
of blue collar districts won in a landslide recently?


Single-handed.

Trump is unbelievable.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:37 PM (XzVUd)

343
Perhaps but the enemies missile silos are the prime target and if it looks like a missile solo ...


Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know



It's the rule of fences around whatever. Six fences, it's targeted.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 11:37 PM (LOq4H)

344 boulder t'hobo

hogmartin

----

Okay you two. Here's a tale I can't remember the title of, or the author:

A robot and a guy are trapped together in some sort of small enclosure/capsule and the robot goes has a breakdown and goes berserk. It is attacking anything that moves (literally) so, every time our intrepid hero moves the robot beats the snot out of him. Finally our guy uses a flashlight or laser to illuminate the robot's control box on the wall and the robot smashes it to bits basically killing himself.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:39 PM (Y4EXg)

345 found a 2012 wrangler sahara. low miles, clean as new. damn tempted to pull the trigger.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:40 PM (KP5rU)

346 Zettai, lol, sorry.
for whatever reason I've been thinking about the planet Venus a lot over the past month.
i blame autism.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:40 PM (ykYG2)

347 Thanks CBD, and all, give it blank.


*big sigh*

Posted by: Infidel at December 14, 2019 11:41 PM (O/X1S)

348 Just saw a cartoon: man buying two $16.99 copies at the bookstore of "Math For Dummies."

The checkout clerk says, "that'll be $50."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:41 PM (L2ZTs)

349 Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:37 PM (XzVUd)

If only we had a Uniparty wing that was in opposition to the progressive wing instead of in opposition to our elected president!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:41 PM (BiNEL)

350
Good evening, everyone. Let's not talk about my nightmare about that missile silo. It looks like a place you could buy if you wanted to really mess people up. Like H.H. Holmes. I wish my mind didn't go that way.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2019 11:41 PM (W04rT)

351 I agree with leaving the Christmas card as-is, and providing your own separate note.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2019 11:42 PM (NWiLs)

352 Finally our guy uses a flashlight or laser to illuminate the robot's control box on the wall and the robot smashes it to bits basically killing himself.

Any ideas?

Adam Schiff ?

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 11:42 PM (D46E0)

353 The checkout clerk says, "that'll be $50."
Posted by: qdpsteve

----

HEY OOOOHHHHH!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:42 PM (Y4EXg)

354 Howdy you Morons. What's shaking?
I saw there was talk of cookies. Well I had a bunch left over for my Christmas deal last weekend and Frozen but I thought I'd give some to the neighbors. Is he is a great guy and is helping out with Mowing and all kinds of stuff absolutely great guy.

So I put together a plate of cookies and took him over tonight. He was thrilled as the two girls well be very happy. To tell the truth I kept the cookies I really liked, the ones with M&M'S. I think I'll go get another one right now.

Posted by: Farmer at December 14, 2019 11:42 PM (vubS5)

355 All this talk of colonizing Venus... but what if....

youtube.com/watch?v=kHomWdiXch0

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:42 PM (qAR6u)

356 A robot and a guy are trapped together in some sort of small enclosure/capsule and the robot goes has a breakdown...
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:39 PM (Y4EXg)


Got nothin'. Sorry.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:43 PM (t+qrx)

357 Dang......stupid me and over focused on my own pathetic daily grind.

Sad for my children,cousins and uncles. This is the first Christmas without Grand Parents. Lost my Father-in-law back in August and there went that linage.....life moves so fast.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 14, 2019 11:43 PM (kFkpX)

358 nightmare about that missile silo. It looks like a place you could buy if you wanted to really mess people up

Or if you wanted to visit the planet Mongo

Posted by: dr hans zarkov at December 14, 2019 11:43 PM (ykYG2)

359 The checkout clerk says, "that'll be $50."
Posted by: qdpstevE
DUDE!! No maths!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 11:43 PM (a4qVe)

360 Typically great ONT, thanks MisHum.

Watched "Resolution," really great film by the guys responsible for "The Endless."

Highly recommended, just be warned there aren't any sympathetic characters.

Hello, everyone!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 14, 2019 11:44 PM (l9m7l)

361 I was at Mart du Wal twice this week, & found it to be a perfectly routine experience; no hassles.

I was impressed by the overall quality of the sales clerks. They know where stuff is & made a genuine effort to help me.

Posted by: mnw at December 14, 2019 11:44 PM (Cssks)

362 So I put together a plate of cookies and took him over tonight. He was thrilled as the two girls well be very happy. To tell the truth I kept the cookies I really liked, the ones with M&M'S. I think I'll go get another one right now.
Posted by: Farmer at December 14, 2019 11:42 PM (vubS5)
* * * *

Wonderful! And enjoy the ones with the M&M's!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (fNFgo)

363 It's a compilation of President Trump's accomplishments to date.

Posted by: irongrampa
________

He pushes back against the corrupt news media. That would be enough for me -- at least it would have been, given how low my expectations used to be for everyone.

He's draining the swamp, too -- and he using the other side's impeachment fetish to do it.

Everything else is extra frosting.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (ScWBu)

364 348 Just saw a cartoon: man buying two $16.99 copies at the bookstore of "Math For Dummies."

The checkout clerk says, "that'll be $50."
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:41 PM (L2ZTs)


I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (TdMsT)

365 345 found a 2012 wrangler sahara. low miles, clean as new. damn tempted to pull the trigger.
Posted by: chavez the hugo


When my sister buys used cars she takes them to a mechanic for a check up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (+lVUW)

366 Tonypete, well SOMEBODY'S gotta pick up the slack since Johnny Carson died!

Cheribebe, true.
ONT + math = no fun

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (L2ZTs)

367 365; nerdygirl, i would do the same. it would be my last ride.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:46 PM (KP5rU)

368 Worst Walmart I ever went to was in Rosemead CA

The floors were so dirty and sticky I didn't dare use the bathroom

I was pleasantly surprised how clean and normal the ones in my area of FL are.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:46 PM (qAR6u)

369 when people look down their nose at "wal-mart" and "wal-mart" people "shoppers" it kind off chaps my hide. I get it some stores are in poorer sections. Wal-mart provides more value for the money with most of their products. Wal-mart provides good jobs and competitive pay rates. I get that they sale made in china crap. The people that work there and shop there are not the stereotype. I get it too that some people are just plain weird and fucked up. I am a vet, conservative and Catholic. I have two stents employed by them (5 years total) and I shop there regular like. My son works there (full time with overtime) and makes a good wage for a 21 year old kid. My Mother worked there (with disabilities) fore years. My sister in law for years. My Brother in law for 25+ years and counting. Good people live good lives and raise families on careers at Wal-mart. I get that they have gone "anti" gun (fudd). That should not reflect on the low level employees. Enough of the people of wal-mart crap because it is CRAP.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 14, 2019 11:29 PM (0OmEj)

I don't mind Walmart, if it wasn't for them I'd have to drive a bit further and pay more for some household items. My only complaint would be, when they first started growing they were made In USA, now not so much. Here, the also built a heck of a lean to shed for the Amish to park there buggies, water and hay available.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:47 PM (Rz2Nc)

370 ONT + math = no fun

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (L2ZTs)

Are you saying algebra is ok?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:48 PM (XzVUd)

371 M&Ms are delish in cookies, and brownies but not good on ice cream. Cake, has anyone ever had M&Ms on/in cake?

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 11:48 PM (a4qVe)

372 Are you saying algebra is ok?
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:48 PM (XzVUd)

The Little Mermaid had an algaebra.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (Ol3ZL)

373 wal mart's are a reflection of the neighborhoods they are in. at least around here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (KP5rU)

374 345 found a 2012 wrangler sahara. low miles, clean as new. damn tempted to pull the trigger.
Posted by: chavez the hugo


Also, I had a'05 jeep liberty that I kept for 13 years without any real issues. I bought a jeep cherokee a little over a year ago, with no issues so far.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (+lVUW)

375 350- BM
When I was young on the farm in KS I could see the lights of 14 of those silos from my house. We knew we were toast the minute anything happened. Incinerated. Grew up that way knowing it. I wanted to build a house out of it. Not whatever you were thinking....

Posted by: DBCooper at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (bttOm)

376 More like, this is what happens when you let an idiot kid think she's qualified to tell all the adults in the world what to do.

She needs to be told to shut up and go study for her geometry test.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2019 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

Her idiot parents let her drop out of school (cause who needs to be edumacated when the world is going to end in two minutes)... so no geometry tests for her!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (nAiE/)

377 All this talk of colonizing Venus. . . but what if. . . .

Posted by: kbdabear
________

I would have bet my last dollar that you were going in tthis direction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5an-EDaw81Q

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (ScWBu)

378 Well the gingerbread house was a bust - complete failure. We ended up dismantling it and put icing between the parts of the house and ate them just like that. Protip - rye DOES go with iced gingerbread - who knew?

So, I make a fast batch of PB cookies. Day is saved - grandbabies happy. Oldest one helped me mix the dough and she had questions about Jesus so overall, a great day.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (Y4EXg)

379 if any of you M&M's have had the opportunity of driving in a jeep made for the war II let me know your impressions.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (kFkpX)

380 I was at Mart du Wal twice this week, found it to be a perfectly routine experience; no hassles.



I was impressed by the overall quality of the sales clerks. They know where stuff is made a genuine effort to help me.


There's a Wally-Mart food market near stately Casa Backwardio that I'm in at least once a week. Some employees have been there for several years, which I consider a good sign at any bidness. Was also in the new one up the road. Very clean and well stocked.
I don't get the Wal-Mart shopper hatin' either. I like getting as much value for my money as possible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (HaL55)

381 Enquiring: NO.
(I gave up on algebra in college, when we got to 'imaginary numbers.')

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:50 PM (L2ZTs)

382 Don't know if Al Pacino was one of the judges....

National Daisy Dukes Championship

youtube.com/watch?v=ssDvXK83R24

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2019 11:50 PM (qAR6u)

383 I've read Walmart is growing like crazy in... Mexico.

Now I bet THOSE prices are cheap!...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:50 PM (L2ZTs)

384 Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 11:48 PM (a4qVe)


Back in college if we went to the movies there would be someone who would dump M and Ms in a bag of popcorn.

Posted by: Vendette at December 14, 2019 11:50 PM (6ezlu)

385 He pushes back against the corrupt news media. That would be enough for me -- at least it would have been, given how low my expectations used to be for everyone.
Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:45 PM (ScWBu)


If he had pushed back against the media and not drained the swamp - dayenu!

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:50 PM (t+qrx)

386
Or if you wanted to visit the planet Mongo
Posted by: dr hans zarkov

=======

Planet Mongo! It has six moons and you can walk its circumference in a week.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2019 11:51 PM (W04rT)

387 found a 2012 wrangler sahara. low miles, clean as new. damn tempted to pull the trigger.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:40 PM (KP5rU)

If it's a good price, why not?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 14, 2019 11:51 PM (Rz2Nc)

388 The Little Mermaid had an algaebra.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (Ol3ZL)


Readies trebuchet with Canadian size basket ...

Posted by: Adriane the Warmongering Critic ... at December 14, 2019 11:51 PM (LPnfS)

389 381
Enquiring: NO.

(I gave up on algebra in college, when we got to 'imaginary numbers.')


That's not algebra. It's a democrat budget.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 14, 2019 11:51 PM (XzVUd)

390 381 Enquiring: NO.
(I gave up on algebra in college, when we got to 'imaginary numbers.')
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 11:50 PM (L2ZTs

Doesn't new math use nothing but imaginary numbers?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:52 PM (BiNEL)

391 387: the wife.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:52 PM (KP5rU)

392 All this talk of colonizing Venus. . . but what if. . . .
Posted by: kbdabear

I would have bet my last dollar that you were going in tthis direction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5an-EDaw81Q
Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (ScWBu)


I was way off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPEhQugz-Ew

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:53 PM (t+qrx)

393 Walmart

'Pickles' cartoon this week:

https://tinyurl.com/sassalp

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 14, 2019 11:53 PM (xSo9G)

394 Tonypete #242:

Funny how much that one little frownie means to me.

THx, Tonypete

Posted by: mindful webworker - life is hard at December 14, 2019 11:53 PM (f/e+k)

395 Wal-mart like any large corporation has its good side and bad side. When I lived in small town Tennessee we used to joke that "if Walmart ain't got it I don't need it". The other side of that coin was that Walmart also drove several of the towns store out of business because they were bigger and cheaper. I have seen *unique* people in Whole Foods and Kohl's. But there's something about Walmart that makes different, or that's just where the mean girls go to stir shit.

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 11:54 PM (a4qVe)

396 391 387: the wife.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:52 PM (KP5rU)


Tell her you need it to get her around after knee surgery

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 11:54 PM (aA3+G)

397 Planet Mongo! It has six moons and you can walk its circumference in a week.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


But Planet Claire has pink Air !!!

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=AgLgu1ElH70

Posted by: Adriane the Warmongering Critic ... at December 14, 2019 11:54 PM (LPnfS)

398 The Little Mermaid had an algaebra.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (Ol3ZL)

Muldoon is a terrible influence on you. You know that, right?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:55 PM (HaL55)

399 hogmartin, i was going to go Bananarama

Posted by: dr hans zarkov at December 14, 2019 11:56 PM (ykYG2)

400 I wiil vote for President Trump to continue his ass whipping of the MSM and the Democratic/Commie construct in 2020.

It is so freaking easy to type 2020...2020....2020...almost like it is a given of natural progression ...2020...2020...2020..

and Trump being Trump in 2020...2020...2020...

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 14, 2019 11:56 PM (kFkpX)

401 396: that avenue is in my thoughts.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:56 PM (KP5rU)

402
When I was young on the farm in KS I could see the lights of 14 of those silos from my house. We knew we were toast the minute anything happened. Incinerated. Grew up that way knowing it. I wanted to build a house out of it. Not whatever you were thinking....
Posted by: DBCooper

=======

Man, that's crazy! When I was a kid I saw dugouts or whatever you call them for guns on the beaches in San Diego -- must have been inside a military base, probably in Point Loma.

The missile silo has tons of potential, but living underground would get to me. Maybe I'd buy it, fix it up, and AirBnb it out.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2019 11:57 PM (W04rT)

403 I asked my BIL going for a master's in math at NYU what class he was taking that semester. He gave the name of the class and said, "It's calculus with imaginary numbers." Aaaand that ended that conversation.

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 14, 2019 11:57 PM (4pMBB)

404 hogmartin, i was going to go Bananarama
Posted by: dr hans zarkov at December 14, 2019 11:56 PM (ykYG2)


There are no wrong answers.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:57 PM (t+qrx)

405 M&M's are best either plain or in trail mix of some type.

And we are talking the plain chocolate M&M's. The original kind.

That is all.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2019 11:57 PM (fNFgo)

406 Posted by: Cheribebe at December 14, 2019 11:54 PM (a4qVe)

If Walmart or Tractor Supply Company doesn't have it, I probably don't need it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 14, 2019 11:57 PM (BiNEL)

407 Sometimes?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (aA3+G)

Fucking cheese-heads...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2019 11:58 PM (wYseH)

408 **For Anyone Missing Lost Loved Ones This Christmas**

Got a card in the mail yesterday-- no return address-- a poem inside, printed out on pretty stationery but no signature. The only notation is at the top, handwritten: "My First Christmas In Heaven"... (my Dad's)

The poem is lovely.

preview.tinyurl.com/usm5yvy

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2019 11:58 PM (gP/Z3)

409 Soothsayer #243:
Frosty The Snowman by Leon Redbone with Dr John
https://youtu.be/DAtZBE5XXFo
Both of these men went mort in 2019, just a week apart.


What a gem! Thank you.

Posted by: mindful webworker - ho? ho ho? ho ho HO! at December 14, 2019 11:58 PM (f/e+k)

410 380 I was at Mart du Wal twice this week, found it to be a perfectly routine experience; no hassles.



I was impressed by the overall quality of the sales clerks. They know where stuff is made a genuine effort to help me.

There's a Wally-Mart food market near stately Casa Backwardio that I'm in at least once a week. Some employees have been there for several years, which I consider a good sign at any bidness. Was also in the new one up the road. Very clean and well stocked.
I don't get the Wal-Mart shopper hatin' either. I like getting as much value for my money as possible.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 11:49 PM (HaL55)



Its just that its the most common store out there. And well you're eventually going to get places and times where the less savory or polite customers show up. If you ever do late night shopping for whatever reason you will hate it, just because they close down all the checkout lanes except the self checkout.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2019 11:59 PM (Z7lwY)

411
But Planet Claire has pink Air !!!

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=AgLgu1ElH70
Posted by: Adriane the Warmongering Critic

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Oh yes. If I fix up the silo and Airbnb it out, it will have Planet Claire and The Jetsons music playing all the time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 12:00 AM (W04rT)

412 Riposte to snow shoveling lame-o-gram:
You cannot afford my rates.

Posted by: Wit's End at December 15, 2019 12:01 AM (ROYpB)

413 fucking cheeseheads? what the fuck? don't get me started.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:01 AM (KP5rU)

414 Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 11:53 PM (t+qrx)

She has nice planets

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2019 12:01 AM (qAR6u)

415 What did cheeseheads do to jeeps?

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 15, 2019 12:02 AM (a4qVe)

416 the wife.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 11:52 PM (KP5rU)

Oh, yes. I have one of those.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 15, 2019 12:02 AM (Rz2Nc)

417 Skittles in ice cream is so weird because they freeze like rocks. Who comes up with this stuff?

Posted by: ... at December 15, 2019 12:03 AM (7HyDs)

418 415; it's cbd, who the fuck knows.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:03 AM (KP5rU)

419 413 fucking cheeseheads? what the fuck? don't get me started.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:01 AM (KP5rU)

Let it go, he's a Jets fan, he needs symparhy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (aA3+G)

420 Swedish is very closely related to English, most
"translation errors" between the two tend to be relatively minor things
like using the wrong word order or the use of out of place, uncommon
words like "glistering". I seriously doubt there could be a translation
error that massive and consequential between Swedish and English.
Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2019 10:36 PM (tVQUs)


It probably was an error of cultural mistranslation. In Sweden everyone expects to put the leaders against the wall because that is the proper flow of Socialist throught, and all the politicians are busy trying to make sure they are trying to get ahead and lead that parade to try to make sure they aren't "it" so the whole concept is sort of unreal.

Of course in the US, where punishments are something other than "maximum of 20 years and you aren't allowed chocolate pudding for dinner" death threats are understood a bit differently.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (1glZx)

421
Nothing wrong with the Walmart nearest me except that it's out in the dreary, ugly part of town. Nothing but big-box stores and scrub out there. Big ugly parking lot.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (W04rT)

422 417 I often wonder how they come up with flavor combinations. Like, who thought of sour cream and onion potato chips or even French onion dip?

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (a4qVe)

423 THx, Tonypete
Posted by: mindful webworker

---

I'm glad it helped - even if it is a tiny bit.

What do you say to a loved one, friend, anyone really that has suffered a devastating loss? I still struggle with it.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (Y4EXg)

424 419 413 fucking cheeseheads? what the fuck? don't get me started.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:01 AM (KP5rU)

Let it go, he's a Jets fan, he needs symparhy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (aA3+G)



But isn't he also a Yankees fan, so fuck him?

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2019 12:05 AM (Z7lwY)

425 419: no sympathy here, my friend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:05 AM (KP5rU)

426 I want to colonize Orion and turn it into a planetary Las Vegas

Posted by: Capt James T Kirk at December 15, 2019 12:05 AM (qAR6u)

427 402- BM
The Silo would be great! 20 min from Tucson. Totally rent it out. 60's style deco Price isn't bad.


Posted by: DBCooper at December 15, 2019 12:05 AM (bttOm)

428 buzzion speaks fucking truth.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:06 AM (KP5rU)

429 The Cheeseheads stole my childhood.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at December 15, 2019 12:07 AM (EgshT)

430 Thanks 2 LadyL

Adriane: may your Best Friend be blessed with a Peace that passeth understanding. May she be filled with Strength & Grace to carry on for herself & her other children.

Amen. Three older brothers. And an extended family of great devotion and love. So very hard to lose him.

John 14:2-3: My Father's house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

Posted by: mindful webworker - many mansions at December 15, 2019 12:07 AM (f/e+k)

431 Planet Mongo! It has six moons and you can walk its circumference in a week.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia


That immediately made me think of Prince Mongo. He's still around and still running for mayor:

https://tinyurl.com/sqd2jux

Posted by: Bert G at December 15, 2019 12:07 AM (OMsf+)

432 429: keep talking bitch. we'll steal everything.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:08 AM (KP5rU)

433 What do you say to a loved one, friend, anyone really that has suffered a devastating loss? I still struggle with it.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (Y4EXg)


You don't, really. You listen.

Or may ask ... 'Would you like to talk?' and then listen.

Or just do something simple and keep them company in silence.

Posted by: Adriane the Warmongering Critic ... at December 15, 2019 12:08 AM (LPnfS)

434 Let it go, he's a Jets fan, he needs symparhy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM (aA3+G)

I was a Jets fan until Kaepernick and Goodell cured me of my NFL addiction.

I'm also a Mets fan so it had gotten to be masochistic.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2019 12:08 AM (qAR6u)

435 Tonypete, that is the toughest.

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 15, 2019 12:09 AM (a4qVe)

436 A funny...

A very wealthy middle eastern businessman is in New York securing a very important deal when he is taken seriously ill and needs a blood transfusion.
Unfortunately he is an extremely rare blood group and the Hospital struggle to find a suitable match.
Eventually they track down an elderly Democrat farmer who is the only person with that blood group.
He gladly donates and the businessman makes a full recovery. As a gesture of his thanks, he gives the Democrat farmer a yacht in Monaco, a brand new Bentley and a solid  gold Rolex.
Unfortunately, a few months later he falls ill again , but this time the Hospital can react more quickly.
They telephone the farmer to see if he is willing to help. "I find myself available " said the farmer and he is whisked off to New York in a private jet.
The businessman again makes a full recovery and as a gesture of his gratitude he gives the farmer a box of Girl Scout cookies.
The farmer calls the businessman to check on his health and drops into conversation that perhaps he was not quite as generous this time.
True, said the businessman, but I have got Democrat blood in me now.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 12:09 AM (axyOa)

437 Well CBD does make a mean Bologna sammich

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:10 AM (aA3+G)

438 I like cheese

Many forms of cheese are delightful to my palette with wine or roasted wild boar and wine or freshly fired tortilla chips and other bev's or dipped in, covered over potatoes, drizzled over toast, crackers, mixed in a soup or made into a sandwich...... or just munched from my hand.

Cheese is yum cold or warm or hot......even the stinky stuff .

Ya got to expand yer horizons

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:11 AM (kFkpX)

439 437: so did stormy daniels. big fucking deal.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:11 AM (KP5rU)

440 I often wonder how they come up with flavor combinations. Like, who
thought of sour cream and onion potato chips or even French onion dip?


Lay's had a competition a couple of years ago where they made some of the winner's ideas. They made "biscuits and sausage gravy" potato chips. Being from Alabama and having at least one chromosome dedicated to both of those foods, I had to get a bag.


It was...um...interesting. Tasted remarkably like B ampersand G.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 12:11 AM (HaL55)

441 BB that would almost be like hash browns smothered and covered

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 15, 2019 12:13 AM (a4qVe)

442 She has nice planets
Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2019 12:01 AM (qAR6u)


Agree

Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2019 12:13 AM (t+qrx)

443 Aaaaand, prayers for peace and good things and good health to y'all and to all a good night!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 15, 2019 12:14 AM (a4qVe)

444 Well CBD does make a mean Bologna sammich
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:10 AM (aA3+G)
* * * *

Food of the gods, if prepared correctly.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 15, 2019 12:16 AM (fNFgo)

445 Its just that its the most common store out there. And well you're eventually going to get places and times where the less savory or polite customers show up. If you ever do late night shopping for whatever reason you will hate it, just because they close down all the checkout lanes except the self checkout.
Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2019 11:59 PM (Z7lwY)

Yes, even my little slice oh heaven. Beginning of the the month when EBT is distributed, stay away. On the other hand, this time of year, if you go in the evening, it appears to be where the young Mennonite wives are, in their tight denim skirts down to their ankles. I live in a different place.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 15, 2019 12:16 AM (Rz2Nc)

446 The classics like onion dip derive from Sour Cream...with is at least , an off-shoot of cheese production..though an altered production...maybe a abrupt stoppage of the process which produced something marvelous at the end of the day.....lucky us don't ya think?

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:17 AM (kFkpX)

447 > Greta Thunberg apologizes for her 'against the wall' comment, says it was a translation error. Uh huh.

Sure. Just like it's a translation error when I talk about throwing communists out of helicopters.

A translation error from Spanish. Chilean Spanish.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 12:17 AM (WsmTT)

448 Nobody goes to Walmart anymore, it's too crowded.

Posted by: klaftern at December 15, 2019 12:17 AM (RuIsu)

449 On a scale of Stevie Nicks to Hunter Biden, how much cocaine is this idea worth?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 14, 2019 11:23 PM (ykYG2)


If you run it like an aerostat or a kite, you could use a weighted cable of some sort (beanstalk like cable dipping down into the denser layers) with a drogue on the end to act as a storm anchor to keep it both oriented and stable. It would not be in contact with the ground so would not be a risk in fouling. I believe you could also alter the length to modify your travel. I wonder if it would cut enough magnetic fields to act as a current generator, or if it would be possible to place some sort of spinning rotor on the end to generate additional current.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:17 AM (1glZx)

450 True, said the businessman, but I have got Democrat blood in me now.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TRANSFUSIONS CAN CHANGE THE DNA IN YOUR INTERNAL ORGANS.

tinyurl.com/vm2tu4w

Posted by: dr hans zarkov at December 15, 2019 12:18 AM (ykYG2)

451 Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 12:09 AM (axyOa)

Lol, good joke! It was a joke, right?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 15, 2019 12:19 AM (Rz2Nc)

452 You do know President Trump pardoned him?
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 14, 2019 11:28 PM (LOq4H)


nah, dude. He pardoned his sister, Marilyn.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:20 AM (1glZx)

453 OK Hordelings, the eyelids are getting heavy, heavy...

Y'all try to behave. Pray.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 12:21 AM (HaL55)

454 Got a card in the mail yesterday-- no return address-- a poem inside, printed out on pretty stationery but no signature. The only notation is at the top, handwritten: "My First Christmas In Heaven"... (my Dad's)

The poem is lovely.

preview.tinyurl.com/usm5yvy
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2019 11:58 PM (gP/Z3)
* * * *

Indeed it is. Thank you.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 15, 2019 12:22 AM (fNFgo)

455 nah, dude. He pardoned his sister, Marilyn.


Posted by: Kindltot


Well, there ya go. IMPEACH!!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 15, 2019 12:22 AM (LOq4H)

456 I'ma go look at the Missile silo. The Titan missile museum isn't far from there. Who doesn't want to spend the night in a missile silo? Even in the 60's, probably cost them 10 million to build one.

Posted by: DBCooper at December 15, 2019 12:24 AM (bttOm)

457 453
OK Hordelings, the eyelids are getting heavy, heavy...

Y'all try to behave. Pray.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain.


I'm going to count to 3 and snap my fingers, when you awake you will tirelessly campaign for President Trump, President Trump, President Trump...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 15, 2019 12:24 AM (LOq4H)

458 Yup, never really been in a Walmart until I got roped into going with a few friends this past year. Hundreds of not-quite-right customers the article says. Thats putting it mildly, it was a frigging freak show. I didn't even get in the place and there was a chick giving the finger to the employee working the door, and while that was happening 2 thug looking mofos went running past the other person working the door while carrying some kind of bag. They basically said screw you. I get inside, see all the weirdos, spent about 30 minutes there, come out and there's cops outside. None of it was related. Yeah, fuck that place.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:25 AM (9Om/r)

459
Yup, never really been in a Walmart until I got roped into going with a
few friends this past year. Hundreds of not-quite-right customers the
article says. Thats putting it mildly, it was a frigging freak show. I
didn't even get in the place and there was a chick giving the finger to
the employee working the door, and while that was happening 2 thug
looking mofos went running past the other person working the door while
carrying some kind of bag. They basically said screw you. I get inside,
see all the weirdos, spent about 30 minutes there, come out and there's
cops outside. None of it was related. Yeah, fuck that place.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Ours is pretty nice, close to a military base. Lots of families, damn those service people breed like rabbits!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 15, 2019 12:27 AM (LOq4H)

460 Try this in a crock pot

Two bags of Idaho shredded potatoes open the bags and throw them in

Salt....3 pinches...pepper...3 pinches, garlic cloves X 4, minced. Brown Onion 1, minced, butter (yeah baby) do the cube.......cook on low for 6 hrs. open the lid , mix chopped chives , shallots and 1 cup of freshly cooked maple smoke bacon.... cover for another 30 mins and serve with eggs prepared to your liking.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:28 AM (kFkpX)

461 I think any colonization of Venus that does not
involve terraforming it would have to rely upon "floating cities" that
somehow fly above the densest part of the atmosphere.



I wonder how many nuclear bombs it would take to blow 4/5 of Venus' atmosphere off into space?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (Ol3ZL)


L. Neil Smith wrote a book where the final act was where a group of Asteroid Belters hit Venus with a hypervelocity lump of rock; only they weren't trying to blow the atmosphere off, they were looking to break it into another asteroid belt to settle.

I had a plot where there were these giant factory ships that picked up raw material at the Asteroid belt from the Belters, and ran a profoundly elliptical orbit around the Sun that took it within the orbit of Venus to allow both higher solar energy for working ore into rough and finished castings, and to allow loading of CO2 from Venus' atmosphere as well as to capture protons from the solar wind close in where they were denser, to convert the CO2 into H2O for sale, along with the finished products, at the Asteroid belt.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:31 AM (1glZx)

462 Try this in a crock pot

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:28 AM (kFkpX)
* * * *

Sounds yummy. But no cheese on top?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 15, 2019 12:32 AM (fNFgo)

463 Blonde M., maybe you're thinking of the coastal artillery installations on Pt Loma? The actual batteries have been taken to use for the city's water treatment operation, but several observation/command bunkers remain.


A local group has restored the main observation bunker, and it's open most weekends. They even have a real, pristine sound-powered phone donated by a collector - but nobody to call on it, of course. There are hopes to restore other elements of the system, though apparently an earlier plan to get the searchlight on the bay side working again may not work out.


The old [concrete blockhouse] radio shack is close to the historic lighthouse and has a remarkably good, very small exhibit on the Pt Loma [Fort Rosecrans] and other harbor defenses and also the panic of '42 [sub attack near Goleta and the "battle of Los Angeles" air defense scare.


The last bunkers of the southern-most battery, down near the Mexican border below the SEAL HQ, was taken out not that long ago to make room for the new SEAL range and training facility. The stuff in La Jolla and Del Mar was taken out not long after the war.




Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2019 12:32 AM (El6T/)

464 462.........totally busted

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:33 AM (kFkpX)

465 I wonder how many nuclear bombs it would take to blow 4/5 of Venus' atmosphere off into space?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2019 11:33 PM (Ol3ZL)


1 gas nadler would do it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:35 AM (9Om/r)

466 Don't piss the lawyers off..at least not in Pakistan.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50757383

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467 There is nothin' like a Dane,
Nothin' in the world,
There is nothin' you can name
That is anything like a Dane!

Mossad helps Denmark bust 20 terrorists - report

https://t.co/Al610BLBeB
http://preview.tinyurl.com/wh6zjus

Posted by: Dames at Sea at December 15, 2019 12:35 AM (7cJE3)

468 Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:28 AM (kFkpX)

6hrs for a side dish? Sounds good but need my taters faster than that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:37 AM (aA3+G)

469 Sorry I missed the Palestinian movie thread. I hope the 2002 movie Divine Intervention got mentioned. Just because of the Palestinian Ninja Scene.

https://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/04/palestinian-matrix-movie.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2019 12:38 AM (Or3k7)

470 I'm surprised that's so many where find of M&M cookies. I love Christmas cookies and these are one of my faves. Don't know how much we will have produced here is Joel's is still recovering. But I think we'll get some cookies done. It's Christmas after all.

Posted by: Farmer at December 15, 2019 12:39 AM (SNjR4)

471 Brace yourselves - but I think the "WalMart experience" will vary tremendously depending on the area and clientele. As with most things. Used to get ammo there before I started reloading, we still get some basics occasionally, cuz price.


But speaking of store stereotypes, and flavored potato chips, Trader Joe's had an amazing item during November - turkey and stuffing-flavored chips. Amazing. They actually ran out "early" because they just flew off the shelf. Next year I'm hoarding [and I rarely allow myself to buy chips].


Located on a college campus, the young hotties are abundant but of course I barely notice them. Well, a little - so not a store where the people are any problem.




Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2019 12:40 AM (El6T/)

472
Well, watching "The Invaders" on MeTV, I noted with pleasant surprise that they accurately portrayed silencers being used. No "pew pew", but an accurate less loud gunshot bang.

Peter Gunn did that, as well as the Naked City, and maybe a few others that I can't remember.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 15, 2019 12:41 AM (f1Vqw)

473
Blonde M., maybe you're thinking of the coastal artillery installations on Pt Loma? The actual batteries have been taken to use for the city's water treatment operation, but several observation/command bunkers remain.

=======

rhomboid, that was probably it. Definitely on Point Loma, probably on Fort Rosecrans. I was a little kid.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 12:42 AM (W04rT)

474 462.......but if I would,

A French "Raclette" would be my call, but may be a tad over the top for this dish. This cheese is usually melted over simple roasted potatoes without all the seasonings.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:43 AM (kFkpX)

475 > (I gave up on algebra in college, when we got to 'imaginary numbers.')

A worse name was never invented (in fact, the guy who came up with the term "imaginary numbers" called them that to deride them).

An "imaginary number" is just a distance along a different axis. It's as "real" as any other number (not at all, other words... all numbers are just mental concepts).

Think about a x-y plane (or, to make it even more concrete, a street grid).

Giving directions to get from one place to another on this grid requires two numbers ("three blocks east, one block north"), yes?

For (fundamentally idiotic, as noted above) reasons, one of these numbers is called "real", and the other "imaginary".

Instead of "3 east, 1 north", the mathematicians would write 3 + 1i. The i just signifies that it's in the y direction rather than the x.

And that's basically all there is to "imaginary numbers". There are algebra rules for combining them so that the shit works out right, but if you think of them in "street grid" terms, those rules make perfect sense.

In three dimensions you have three axes, so math in 3D often uses i, j, and k notation rather than "regular number + other number times i", but the basic idea is exactly the same. Confusingly, the convention there is to use i for the distance along the x axis (rather than y), j for the y axis, and k for the z axis. These can also be written as "unit vectors", where i = [1,0,0], j=[0,1,0] and k=[0,0,1], where the numbers represent the distance along the x, y, and z axes respectively. This is very handy for combining them using the rules of matrix manipulations (which computers are wizard at).


The other common notation uses a radius from the center and an angle ("3 km at an angle of 75 degrees") which is more convenient for some jobs (for instance, if you're flying, or aiming an artillery piece, rather than walking along the street grid), but the two are equivalent and can easily be converted back and forth.

Then there's weird shit like quaternions, which I'm not gonna go into here.






Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 12:44 AM (WsmTT)

476 > Doesn't new math use nothing but imaginary numbers?

All math uses nothing but imaginary numbers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 12:45 AM (WsmTT)

477 Rodrigo, thanks.

Sounds like you're talking a bit about absolute values, which is a math concept I think I do understand.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2019 12:46 AM (L2ZTs)

478 468
The first time I tried it, I threw Bratwurst in for another hour and my work-mates went cra-cra over the results.....so I'm playing with it on every attempt.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:47 AM (kFkpX)

479 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 12:44 AM (WsmTT)


Ehhh gadz, no math

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:49 AM (aA3+G)

480 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 12:44 AM (WsmTT)





Ehhh gadz, no math

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:49 AM (aA3+G)

Man no shit. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:51 AM (9Om/r)

481 One more funNy and I'm off to bed.

I was watching an old star wars movie with my granddaughter. She asked my why Solo cut open a taun-taun and put Luke inside.

I told her it was so they could stay warm.

She asked how warm it was inside it.

I told her it was Lukewarm.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 12:51 AM (axyOa)

482 ..The last bunkers of the southern-most battery, down near the Mexican border below the SEAL HQ, was taken out not that long ago to make room for the new SEAL range and training facility. The stuff in La Jolla and Del Mar was taken out not long after the war.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2019 12:32 AM (El6T/)




The San Luis Hotel (high-end resort) on Seawall Blvd. here in Galveston, is built on top of a pair of WWII Naval 12 inch gun emplacements.

One of which is still clearly visible from the road, though most who see it every day haven't a clue as to what that concrete monolith is all about.

Point of Amusement. Water depth at the range of six miles from the beach? Mostly, about forty to fifty ft. deep.

Not exactly a Submariner's Paradise.

In theory, I guess a German surface raider might've cruised out there in shelling distance.

But I doubt that any such vessel would've been able to evade U.S. patrols all along the East Coast nd Caribbean, in order to make it to the Upper Texas Coast.

Now, as to the approaches to the Mississippi River? THAT was a Submariner's Paradise.

And Jerry flat out sunk the shit out of a LOT of U.S. shipping coming in and out of that port.

WWII was so much more of a close-run thing than most folks will ever realize. And damn sure more than today's histrionics books will ever describe.

The War on Wokeness is every bit as real now. It's not that it doesn't have a casualty count. It does.

But it really hasn't yet cleared it's throat for the main chorus.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2019 12:52 AM (QzJWU)

483 e^(pi*i) = -1

Posted by: Euler at December 15, 2019 12:52 AM (CDGwz)

484 I'm functionally innumerate... I'm not ashamed of that...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 12:52 AM (RwnR0)

485 Been seeing some meteors tonight, some of them are bluish green and last around 3 to 5 seconds

Looked it up and the Geminid Meteor shower is tonight

Sorry, no SMOD tonight

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2019 12:53 AM (qAR6u)

486 I'm functionally innumerate... I'm not ashamed of that...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 12:52 AM (RwnR0)

I can't even remember how to do long division.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:56 AM (9Om/r)

487 I don't know where I left off

I don't know where we are now

I know I won't be back until tomorrow's coffee is brewed.

But I bet we had fun.

Posted by: mindful webworker - did you click? at December 15, 2019 12:56 AM (IjxMe)

488 > Sounds like you're talking a bit about absolute values

Kind of the opposite, really. Absolute value ignores "direction" entirely.

I can say I'm 3 km from the center location. That's an absolute value, but doesn't really tell me exactly where. The only thing it tells me is that I'm somewhere on a circle with radius 3km from the center (the "origin", as math people call it).

I can say I'm 3 km east of the center. That's 3 + 0i (3 in the x direction, 0 in the y).

I can I'm 3 km north of the center. That would be 0 + 3i (0 x, 3 y).

I can say I'm 3 km west of the center (-3 + 0i, or -3 x, 0 y) or 3 km south (0 -3i, or 0 x, -3y).

What about 3 km northeast, or some other direction? Well, there you have to apply some trigonometry.

The takeaway idea is that to specify a position on a plane, you need two numbers. One number to specify the east-west position (called "real", for stupid reasons) and one number to specify the north-south position (called "imaginary", for equally stupid reasons).




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 12:57 AM (WsmTT)

489 Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2019 12:53 AM (qAR6u)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2019 12:57 AM (aA3+G)

490 I can't even remember how to do long division.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:56 AM



Times are hard... Gazintas are harder!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 12:57 AM (RwnR0)

491 Berserker, wanna know how much of a nerd I was in elementary school?

I ENJOYED long division. I couldn't understand why anyone couldn't understand it, so long as you had your times tables memorized. I used to finish my work with it early and ask for more long division problems.

Sometimes I look back and realize, no wonder I was so unpopular...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2019 12:58 AM (L2ZTs)

492
Imaginary numbers are no less real than negative numbers or even fractions. A famous discussion between a philosopher and a mathematician is oft used to illustrate that.

The philosopher accused the mathematician of being a mystic since he "believed in" imaginary numbers. The mathematician then retorted with the above.

Show me the square root of negative 1 pieces of chalk demanded the philosopher. The mathematician said I will when you show me one half of a piece of chalk.

The philosopher said easy, and took a new stick of chalk, and carefully broke it in two about half way down the length.

There, he said. The mathematician said, what, I see one distinct piece of chalk...

Think about it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 15, 2019 12:58 AM (f1Vqw)

493 Mathematics, Calculus, hell Physics all languages that just a few of us are lucky to understand or master.

It starts when your young and given a pathway to understanding........most of us never saw, or were intrigued by the pathway and so.....

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 12:58 AM (kFkpX)

494 Good evening y'all!

Someone must have called on the neighbors........not me because I don't want to get in a fight......volume went way down

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 15, 2019 12:59 AM (/UQ/R)

495 Times are hard... Gazintas are harder!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 12:57 AM (RwnR0)


I work with gazintas alot, especially with harleys. This part gazinta the garbage, that part gazinta the garbage, etc etc

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:01 AM (9Om/r)

496 You know I thought I would not like not respect Tiger for the rest of his career, however I did see real joy and respect from him tonight

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 15, 2019 01:01 AM (/UQ/R)

497 I can't even remember how to do long division.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:56 AM (9Om/r)


I looked over the lessons a few years ago, because I was a little ashamed about it. I should know how to do this, or at least figure it out with enough paper. It's basic stuff.

I got the hang of it after about a half hour and stone-cold forgot it again in less time than that.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2019 01:02 AM (t+qrx)

498 > There, he said. The mathematician said, what, I see one distinct piece of chalk...

A math prof was explaining this in class when I was in undergrad.

"The concept of 'two' exists only in the mind. No one has ever seen a 'two'."

My smartass buddy: "Seen one? I've dated them."

(Professor attempts to look stern to keep from cracking up... fails)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 01:02 AM (WsmTT)

499 WDS.

First, *hugs*

Second. Get a system about 150% more powerful than theirs.

Put a mic on your side of the street, but where it picks up their speakers.

Feed that signal into your system, with your system's speakers pointing directly back at theirs.

They'll end up a percent or three out of phase.

I would not be surprised should nausea be induced in the confluence zone.

*rubs hands together*

*evil grin*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston,TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2019 01:03 AM (QzJWU)

500 Interpretations; history repeating itself (and so predictably).

McConnel (Republican) asked to recluse himself in an investigation. MEANING ?

Demorats packed the investigation in their favor and with useable stooges, but are afraid they still might fail. Answer to the problem ? A or some Republicans must recluse themselves to give the win to demorats. Seen many times used in this way already. Who after him ? Lindsay Graham ?

Posted by: ron n. at December 15, 2019 01:03 AM (3qP6l)

501 well this thread didn't improve my opinion of the human race
twitter.com/lovemegxn/status/1204919146053545986

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 15, 2019 01:06 AM (ykYG2)

502 Languages were always my thing... I took all three languages (German, French, and Spanish) offered in high skool -- simultaneously! And I've taught myself the basics in many others, yet I'm only reasonably fluent in English...

I always figured that were I to find myself in a strange land with a different tongue, I was well positioned to quickly learn to speak with the IPs...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:06 AM (RwnR0)

503 I can't even remember how to do long division.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:56 AM (9Om/r)



I looked over the lessons a few years ago, because I was a little
ashamed about it. I should know how to do this, or at least figure it
out with enough paper. It's basic stuff.



I got the hang of it after about a half hour and stone-cold forgot it again in less time than that.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2019 01:02 AM (t+qrx)

I hate math with the heat of 1000 suns. I have to use more than I like to, but its mostly reading micrometers, calculating clearances, or basic formulas for balancing engines.

NASA level stuff? lol, they would have died on the launch pad.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:07 AM (9Om/r)

504 Jim.......hugs back at you!

Way above my pay grade Just glad it's turned down

Would I love to do something to take her down........yes

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 15, 2019 01:08 AM (/UQ/R)

505 I work with gazintas alot, especially with harleys. This part gazinta the garbage, that part gazinta the garbage, etc etc

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:01 AM



You'd have loved to get hands on my ol' long-gone Sportster... I can easily imagine there would be nothing left in short order!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:10 AM (RwnR0)

506 what happened with Tiger?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2019 01:10 AM (El6T/)

507 Good night, all.

Sorry about the math lecture.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 01:11 AM (WsmTT)

508 But let me please throw flame on our current form of education which is for the most part, at least as the inner cities are concerned, (Maximum condescending verbage of total condemnation of the Socialist/commie construct firmly emboinked deeply with the teacher's unions) who will always scream to their brethren commie media when they go on strike every year...."FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!"

Go F Y S into the nearest river with a stone weight around your collective necks.....and die.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 01:11 AM (kFkpX)

509 Languages were always my thing... I took all three languages (German, French, and Spanish) offered in high skool -- simultaneously! And I've taught myself the basics in many others, yet I'm only reasonably fluent in English...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:06 AM (RwnR0)


An old boss, who was much better at math than I am, once wondered out loud why I was the programmer and she was the manager, since I need a calculator to figure sales tax (but speak a couple of languages), while she's an absolute math rockstar but only knows English.

It made perfect sense to me.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2019 01:11 AM (t+qrx)

510 The last of my dad's 6 brothers passed away 2 days after Thanksgiving. I went to his funeral today in Kamiah Id. Amongst the many items of tribute on the stage was a large picture of PDT and Melania.

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511 rhomboid.......US won Presidents Cup with Tiger as player captain

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 15, 2019 01:15 AM (/UQ/R)

512 You'd have loved to get hands on my ol' long-gone Sportster... I can easily imagine there would be nothing left in short order!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:10 AM (RwnR0)


If it was an old iron head you would probably be right, lol. Those poor things got the snot beat out of them. In reality 90% of any of harley problems are usually due to the owners doing stupid shit, or so called mechanics that really shouldn't touch a harley engine.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:15 AM (9Om/r)

513 slide rule > long division

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 15, 2019 01:16 AM (ykYG2)

514
as for WWII technology, the allies were a generation of two ahead of the Axis in electronics. Radar, Sonar, underwater mine detection, Proximity fuse and even jets the American F113 was equal to or superior to the Me-262. For bizarre reasons they were not allowed to leave the States. The Germans and the Japanese could not last long with the Allies superior electrical technology, especially the computer code breaking and cannons deadly accuracy in hitting targets, combined with American ingenuity and mass productions. The Krauts and Japs were darn lucky to have lasted as long as they did.

Posted by: ron n. at December 15, 2019 01:16 AM (3qP6l)

515 One thing I have noticed, that I think kinda/sorta relates to this whole "do you or do you not get math, languages, etc" kind of thing:

I have a lot more trouble remembering things today than I did 10, 20, 30 years ago.

The term I use is that when you're very young, your brain is naturally "sticky." You hear things, you learn things, and they STICK in your brain. You remember them. And when you're younger, it seems that much more things about life, the universe and everything, are much more interesting.

But as you grow older, you get bored with things, life loses its luster a bit, and your brain becomes less sticky. To the point that you have to make yourself interested in things sometimes, to keep your brain sticky. You also have to rely on memory 'crutches,' as it were, like writing things down on post-its, putting them in easy-to-find places, etc.

I would give anything to have a brain as 'sticky' again, as I did when I was 15 years old. I can remember tons of movies, rock bands and songs, and all sorts of TV trivia (who played Schneider on One Day At A Time? Pat Harrington) and junk like that, but I have difficulty remembering passwords I use often online.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2019 01:16 AM (L2ZTs)

516 ..NASA level stuff? lol, they would have died on the launch pad.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:07 AM (9Om/r)



Friend of mine from a local cigar store, recently retired from NASA as the Orbital Dynamics Engineer on the ISS program.

Not only did he bear responsibility for "shaping" the ISS's orbit, but also for de-conflicting with thousands of other bits of space-borne hardware, mostly "junk" cast off from hundreds of previous launches.

Suffice to say, he understands "math" in a way you n' I never will even remotely comprehend.

But at least I did gain traction with him when in conversation, it became apparent that I knew what an Apogee and Perigee were in Orbital terms, along with several other nerd-points such as we often discuss here in the ONT.

The cigar world is every bit as powerful as he shooty world, as to providing introductions to many people you'd otherwise not come to know.

Applies to the motorcycle world, too.

And in my experience, even to my detriment. Those are all greater-than the sailing world, which does tend to self-select for snobs, elitists and look-down-on-their-lessers wanna-bees.

*my bourbon now, Jeeves...*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2019 01:17 AM (QzJWU)

517 501 well this thread didn't improve my opinion of the human race
twitter.com/lovemegxn/status/1204919146053545986
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 15, 2019 01:06 AM (ykYG2)

My soul just died.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 15, 2019 01:17 AM (a+QMf)

518 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:15 AM



*ponders whether trying to turn an '86 XL 883 into a café racer was such a wise idea...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:21 AM (RwnR0)

519
Rodrigo's post about complex numbers made me try to remember something. I think it's impossible to get a full algebra (however that is precisely defined) for 3D, that is triple of numbers.

Hamilton was trying to do that, IIRC, and in what he described as a spark of inspiration, realized he need 4 dimensions, 4 numbers. That was what he called the quaternions.

The next level up is ocotonions, eight dimensions, although there are a bunch of others in four dimensions.

There is the spacetime alegrba that gives a quaternion like system, but with this properties of Minkowski space 4-vectors (1 time like, 3 spacelike). I remember playing with that latter, but I've forgotten it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 15, 2019 01:22 AM (f1Vqw)

520 But at least I did gain traction with him when in conversation, it became apparent that I knew what an Apogee and Perigee were in Orbital terms, along with several other nerd-points such as we often discuss here in the ONT.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2019 01:17 AM (QzJWU)


I could teach a graduate-level course in asking a relevant question about the one single thing I know about a given subject and hoping people think I know what I'm talking about (I don't).

Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2019 01:23 AM (t+qrx)

521 The Tik Tok Tarts are cute...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:24 AM (RwnR0)

522 *ponders whether trying to turn an '86 XL 883 into a café racer was such a wise idea...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:21 AM (RwnR0)


Well that was an EVO engine, and thats basically what the Buells used, so not actually a crazy idea. They could take more of a beating than the older ones.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:25 AM (9Om/r)

523 7th anniversary of newton massacre and still the american people have been prevented from bringing the nra to justice! We will have to wait 2024 when AOC is elected president.

Posted by: raimondo at December 15, 2019 01:26 AM (pBIWW)

524 ..*ponders whether trying to turn an '86 XL 883 into a café racer was such a wise idea...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:21 AM (RwnR0)



Better had you turned it into an American version of a Ducati Monster.

Café Racers are the Soccer Players of the motorcycle world.

Everything they do looks "athletic". Until they find themselves on a Rugby Field or U.S. High School Gridiron.

Or a 1st generation Yamaha V-Max.

On that one, if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, tX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2019 01:27 AM (QzJWU)

525 Oh lord! raimondo in the house and still as dumb as a box of rocks

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 15, 2019 01:28 AM (/UQ/R)

526 Funny.......when I typed in dumb......my tablet autocucumber popped up with Republicans

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 15, 2019 01:30 AM (/UQ/R)

527 Posted by: raimondo at December 15, 2019 01:26 AM (pBIWW)
---ah yes.... forgotten, but not gone.

GFY, needle dick.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2019 01:32 AM (Zo3HG)

528 ..I would give anything to have a brain as 'sticky' again, as I did when I was 15 years old. I can remember tons of movies, rock bands and songs, and all sorts of TV trivia (who played Schneider on One Day At A Time? Pat Harrington) and junk like that, but I have difficulty remembering passwords I use often online.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2019 01:16 AM (L2ZTs)



For every "sin" that QDP has committed against MS HUM, this post is full and complete absolution and forgiveness.

Go and read it all.

It is profound.

It. Is. Profound.

Shit like this is why the ONT is the ONT.

Y'all go read this, and then give QDP the accolades he deserves for such a tight bit of writing as this.

I fk'n mean it. Go and read what he wrote. You'll be better for it.

Me, I've gotta hit the snoozer. Alarm in five hours.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2019 01:33 AM (QzJWU)

529 I did what I still consider solid things to the motor: punched out to 1200cc, S&S carburettor, Screamin' Eagle valve kit, 8,000 rpm ignition module... The clip-ons and rear-sets, tiny ghey fairing around the headlight, not so much...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:34 AM (RwnR0)

530 Jim, aw shucks thanks :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2019 01:34 AM (L2ZTs)

531 523




Burp...sorry my American Scotch caused me to totally ignore whatever you were saying.....try smoke signals next time or if you can find a Western Union out near whogivestwoshits Nebraska, and make sure you type s l o w l y...it's cold out there right now....and they are a going to forget you as soon has you leave the window.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 01:37 AM (kFkpX)

532 ...lowered the suspension 2", progressive shocks, dual-disc front binders, spray painted crinkle black...

It gets worse!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:38 AM (RwnR0)

533 I did what I still consider solid things to the
motor: punched out to 1200cc, SS carburettor, Screamin' Eagle valve
kit, 8,000 rpm ignition module... The clip-ons and rear-sets, tiny ghey
fairing around the headlight, not so much...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:34 AM (RwnR0)

Yeah, those are pretty solid mods. The 1200 kit really wakes them up. Those frigging SS carbs are $700 now if you can believe it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:38 AM (9Om/r)

534 Naught times naught is naught.

Posted by: klaftern at December 15, 2019 01:40 AM (RuIsu)

535 Goodnight all, and thanks for the great fun chat tonight. I learned stuff. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2019 01:41 AM (L2ZTs)

536 Naught times naught is naught.

and a dumb dad and a stupid mum make ... a raimondo

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 15, 2019 01:42 AM (ykYG2)

537 Misanthropic Humanitarian - Thanks again for the pet thread & posting my submitted photo...

Fox News Sunday supposed to have James Comey & Adam Schiff on later this a.m...

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2019 01:43 AM (+EDVk)

538 Mathematics, Calculus, hell Physics all languages that just a few of us are lucky to understand or master.

Posted by: Nightwatch
________

Everyone understands something. No one understands everything.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 15, 2019 01:43 AM (ScWBu)

539 ...No instruments whatsoever, took out the high-beam and signal lights, kept only the low-oil-pressure and neutral lights mounted with super glue in the hole in the centre of the upper fork brace...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at December 15, 2019 01:45 AM (RwnR0)

540 538

Trust me....I am well versed in what I don't understand....

Good night to you sir.

Posted by: Nightwatch just at December 15, 2019 01:46 AM (kFkpX)

541 Good evening,

Good content to promote conversation, good comments to respond to, thought I would just fall asleep instead.

That is not happening. I thought I could process some old issues but just getting agitated instead.

So.....

Good evening wing - unless you wear socks, that is the only comment I ever see from you. Feel free to comment more.

Sometimes people here wonder how to get lurkers to post. Responding to their comments might help.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 01:49 AM (8+B0H)

542 Adrian, thanks for your thoughtful prayers for Morons in need. Prayers going up here as well. May the pain of loss be lessened with treasured memories of times with loved ones.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 01:53 AM (8+B0H)

543 All this math? Seriously!!?

I was told there would be no math.

Actually glad that there are minds that are happy working in numbers. i can, but prefer not to.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 01:55 AM (8+B0H)

544 Hiya "AK away"! Sorry ya can't sleep....
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Kamiah is a bit down the road from me, but I know of the place. Yes, PDT is well-liked in this state (except probably Boise, but well, screw libtarded Boise!)

Posted by: JQ at December 15, 2019 01:56 AM (gP/Z3)

545 7th anniversary of newton massacre and still the american people have been prevented from bringing the nra to justice! We will have to wait 2024 when AOC is elected president.

Posted by: Raimondo
________

Why would AOC primary an incumbent Democrat?

Posted by: WaterCow at December 15, 2019 01:56 AM (ScWBu)

546 Not going to judge the dad based on the excerpt. Too many false accusations out there. We still accept "innocent unless proven guilty", right.

Walmart:I work had for my money, I will go where I can get best product for best value, and Walmart often provides that.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:00 AM (8+B0H)

547 Sometimes people here wonder how to get lurkers to post. Responding to their comments might help.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 01:49 AM (8+B0H)

I'll respond to anything and anybody if I have anything to add, which usually isn't much. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 02:00 AM (9Om/r)

548 I imagine hell wil be worse than waiting in line for 30 min.

Mike Hammer, if you are still around, what is the radio station that you listen to Christmas music on?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:02 AM (8+B0H)

549
Interpretations; history repeating itself (and so predictably).



McConnel (Republican) asked to recluse himself in an investigation. MEANING ?



Demorats packed the investigation in their favor and with useable
stooges, but are afraid they still might fail. Answer to the problem ? A
or some Republicans must recluse themselves to give the win to
demorats. Seen many times used in this way already. Who after him ?
Lindsay Graham ?

Posted by: ron n. at December 15, 2019 01:03 AM (3qP6l)

I am sure the Turtle's response was to tell them to get fucked.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 02:03 AM (nAiE/)

550 ...7th anniversary of newton (sic) massacre...

Ninja, puh-leeze! Newtown-- Pffft!

If all those kids had been simply aborted, you leftards would have been celebrating their mothers' "empowerment" or some such BS. (As if The Children meant a damned thing to you all.)

Gimme a break!

Posted by: JQ at December 15, 2019 02:04 AM (gP/Z3)

551 Th genius award was full of strangeness. Like, scent of incense unknown. Completely pertinent detail that was left out and yes, what was the squirrel doing with incense?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:07 AM (8+B0H)

552 berserker, I often feel the same way.... Would love to respond, but don't have anything to add.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:10 AM (8+B0H)

553 JQ,
Thanks for the sympathy on the insomnia.

Nice thought on "Dad's first Christmas in heaven"

I hope you found comfort in it. Our loved ones' absences by definition leave a hole in our existence.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:17 AM (8+B0H)

554 Also, genius award mentioned smoke alarm turned off because it kept going off while they were cooking..... I will admit I have done this with what seemed like an overly sensitive alarm.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:20 AM (8+B0H)

555 * takes off public service sock...sniffs it

Dang forgot I'd had that on for so long.

Yea JQ one thing that progtards definitely don't have a clue about is small town America.


* sprays troll repellent

Never sure about the manatee guy

* sprays him anyway

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:20 AM (aT8XW)

556 Children mean nothing more to the left than a manipulation and power play.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:21 AM (8+B0H)

557 Math. Interesting thing math. Most of us don't have any further knowledge of math than algebra we took in high school or college. But even still, we unconsciously use it every day. Comparing prices at the grocery store. Figuring out how long its going to take us to drive to a specific destination. I look at bowling scores and see what the maximum score I can achieve during a game. We do it without thinking about it. It seems to be hardwired into our thinking. Even the most unintelligent among us seem to grasp the concept. Your ghetto drug dealer figures out how many grams he can sell out of an ounce of a product, and how much he can sell it for. Basic math appears to be hardwired into our brains. I don't know how else to explain it. It all depends on what you do with it, much like everything else in our existence.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 15, 2019 02:22 AM (VNmG1)

558 Gimme a break!
Posted by: JQ

* fist bump

He doesn't have the cognitive skills to grasp what you said to him but WTH .

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:23 AM (aT8XW)

559 Did the impeachment show make it out of committee?

Anyone care to give me an update?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:27 AM (8+B0H)

560
McConnel (Republican) asked to recluse himself in an investigation. MEANING ?



Demorats packed the investigation in their favor and with useable
stooges, but are afraid they still might fail. Answer to the problem ? A
or some Republicans must recluse themselves to give the win to
demorats. Seen many times used in this way already. Who after him ?
Lindsay Graham ?

Posted by: ron n. at December 15, 2019 01:03 AM (3qP6l)

I am sure the Turtle's response was to tell them to get fucked.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner

They're playing for the tie. McConnell will definitely tell them to GFY but the dims will use his refuse to recuse as the reason any Senate results are tainted. Don't know what move they might make after that but I expect more outrageous BS coming to an airport lounge near you soon.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:30 AM (aT8XW)

561 Anyone care to give me an update?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:27 AM (8+B0H)

Two articles. Both very weak. Goes to the full House for a vote. Will be along party lines, but some Dems may jump ship and not vote for it.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 15, 2019 02:31 AM (VNmG1)

562 The first two jokes were similar in a not funny way. I get that the military was turning the tables on the snobby lady, but why interact with her at all? If she s going to exclude some military members, why would anyone go?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:31 AM (8+B0H)

563 402- BM
The Silo would be great! 20 min from Tucson. Totally rent it out. 60's style deco Price isn't bad.


Posted by: DBCooper at December 15, 2019 12:05 AM (bttOm)

Well the one I went to is at the end of Missile base Road, which is not a marked exit on the I-10. If you cruise the east side frontage road, north from the main Marana exit, you should find it. I don't recall seeing any portals to underground facilities, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 02:31 AM (Ol3ZL)

564
They're playing for the tie. McConnell will
definitely tell them to GFY but the dims will use his refuse to recuse
as the reason any Senate results are tainted. Don't know what move they
might make after that but I expect more outrageous BS coming to an
airport lounge near you soon.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:30 AM (aT8XW)

Nobody with any sense believes anything coming out of a Democrat's moth any more... not even their fellow travelers.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 02:32 AM (nAiE/)

565 Thanks Old Blue. When will the House be voting?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:33 AM (8+B0H)

566 Thanks Old Blue. When will the House be voting?

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:33 AM (8+B0H)

Wednesday, supposedly.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 02:35 AM (nAiE/)

567 If she s going to exclude some military members, why would anyone go?
Posted by: AK

Sometimes you just hsve to run a little smelly stuff under the uppity noses. Sometimes they even understand.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:35 AM (aT8XW)

568 *mouth not moth. And on that note, I am going to bed.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2019 02:36 AM (nAiE/)

569 I'm a person of few wrds typically, and have thrown out several tonight, so gong into lurk mode for a bit

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:37 AM (8+B0H)

570 Did the impeachment show make it out of committee?

Anyone care to give me an update?

Posted by: AK away
________

What Old Blue said.

Anyway, you know how Trump was in Russia's pocket while acting as that country's foreign agent? And then he committed campaign finance violations? And Bribery? And Treason? And rape? And gross incompetence and insanity?

The charges are Abuse of Power (ISTN, and delivered with neither shame nor a sense of irony) and Obstruction of Congress (which may mean trouble for you or me but I don't think can fly against a coequal branch of the government).

This is a worse story than the last season of Battlestar Galactica.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 15, 2019 02:39 AM (ScWBu)

571 556- children are media shields, pawns, brainwash subjects, and shock troops for the left....they are so useful you wouldn't think the left would be so insistent on murdering them in the womb.

and I think any mom who takes a kid to a drag story time at the library should have the child removed from the home. send 'em to grandma.

Posted by: vivi at December 15, 2019 02:39 AM (11H2y)

572
Nobody with any sense believes anything coming out of a Democrat's moth any more... not even their fellow travelers.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner

Only the frequent fliers who still try to board planes with nail clippers and small bottles of shampoo in their pockets. Apparently the dims think they're an important voting bloc.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:40 AM (aT8XW)

573 To be perfectly honest, I'm really, really tired of hearing Dems saying "No one is above the law". If that were true, Hildabeast, Comey, Brennan, and a bunch of others would be playing canasta in some lockup somewhere. And the same with "We have to defend the Constitution." Crap, those ass hats have been trying to shred the Constitution for the last 50 years or more.

A phrase I remember from the late sixties. "Trust neither the actors nor the politicians, for both have been taught to lie for their bread." Something to live by.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 15, 2019 02:43 AM (VNmG1)

574 I'm a person of few wrds typically, and have thrown out several tonight, so gong into lurk mode for a bit
Posted by: AK away

Lurkers out of their shells are always appreciated on the horde menu. This coming from a guy who fights his uncoordinated fingers trying to type something semi articulate on his phone.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..troll monitor at December 15, 2019 02:44 AM (aT8XW)

575 When will the House be voting?

Someone else probably knows for sure... but I thought they were *supposed to have done it* earlier this week? Meh.

Of course, they probably want to refresh themselves a bit after getting it out of committee, whip any suspected defectors within their ranks get new clothes & haircuts, hit the Sunday talk shows before getting in front of CSPAN's cameras and actually holding the House Vote.

Kabuki...

Posted by: JQ at December 15, 2019 02:44 AM (gP/Z3)

576 OT,but last night I had a wonderful dream that my late husband and one of his best Friends were at the house and we were trying to put together a meal it was nice. Michael's been gone since 2009; Jack since 2012 . it was great to see them.

Posted by: vivi at December 15, 2019 02:45 AM (11H2y)

577 Night all. See you on the gub thread tomorrow.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 15, 2019 02:45 AM (VNmG1)

578 Vivi, I've had similar dreams about those that have passed, and always appreciate them.

Nite, Old Blue

JQ, kabuki indeed.

Posted by: AK away at December 15, 2019 02:50 AM (8+B0H)

579 ... it was great to see them.
Posted by: vivi at December 15, 2019 02:45 AM

Those dreams are comforting and sweet, aren't they? It's so real and joyful if only for those brief moments!

Posted by: JQ at December 15, 2019 02:52 AM (gP/Z3)

580 vivi- hug them tight as you fall asleep tonight.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 15, 2019 03:09 AM (CjFDo)

581 I am still here. Spent some time away from the thread, in my "radio shop", sorting transformers. I have a mittfull of them. Some new old stock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 03:10 AM (Ol3ZL)

582 Did the impeachment show make it out of committee?

Anyone care to give me an update?

Posted by: AK away
.........


Yes. It goes to a full House vote next week.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 15, 2019 03:11 AM (CjFDo)

583 @545 why wouldn't AOC primary biden in the unlikely event he doesn't come down with alzheimers (assuming he doesn't already have it!

Posted by: raimondo at December 15, 2019 03:26 AM (pBIWW)

584 @556 thats more then they me to the right.

Posted by: raimondo at December 15, 2019 03:27 AM (pBIWW)

585 Everyone understands something. No one understands everything.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 15, 2019 01:43 AM (ScWBu)

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wut?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2019 03:35 AM (Zo3HG)

586 @556 thats more then they me to the right.
Posted by: raimondo at December 15, 2019 03:27 AM (pBIWW)

You know, raimondo, as long as there is a frozen flagpole going unlicked, you are not realizing your full potential.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 03:44 AM (Ol3ZL)

587 @585 the posters here prove you are wrong!

Posted by: raimondo at December 15, 2019 03:45 AM (pBIWW)

588 Well, it's late here. Time for a long winter's nap. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 03:45 AM (Ol3ZL)

589 1) If you go to Walmart to buy ammo before noon expect to wait a minimum of thirty minutes while they find a manager with a key and the requisite training to sell you said ammo. Minimum. Thirty minutes. Minimum. Minimum.
2) I had a friend (alas, he is morte), who used to rappel into abandoned missile silos to strip out the copper wire to sell for eating money. Ah, to be young again...but not hungry. Or stupid, or well...being twenty-nine is not so bad.

Posted by: Waepnedmann at December 15, 2019 04:10 AM (4YfbU)

590 Good evening everyone! As always, I'm late to the discussion. Dozens of cookies to decorate before I sleep. Mis Hum, I can't tell you how much it means to see/hear the Father Christmas video. The song came out in 1975. I met NavyDad on March 10, 1976, and the song reminds me of our first Christmas together. Specifically, it reminds me of riding in his car on the way home after a date. Just a snippet of time, but it's like I can smell the car and see my (not yet) husband at age 21. What a powerful thing music is. Anyway, I have to wipe away the moisture from my eyes and get back to work. Those cookies aren't going to decorate themselves! God bless all of you!

Posted by: NavyMom at December 15, 2019 04:51 AM (kqqrA)

591 Latest I have been here in awhile

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 05:27 AM (ZCEU2)

592 Latest I have been here in awhile
Posted by: Skip

We're gonna have to dock you.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:31 AM (vd8XM)

593
Good morning all. Just posted some breaking news in the sidebar.

Yup. Shaping up to be an early night for Trump!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 05:31 AM (zBaqJ)

594 Mornin', all

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 05:36 AM (Z/jzm)

595 Van Drew's decision comes after a meeting with Trump on Friday.

Trump! probably got him hooked up to some of that sweet sweet Ukraine moohlah...
It's the best

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:38 AM (vd8XM)

596 I see raimondo is along for the ride this morning. Someone toss him up on the roof in the luggage carrier.

Posted by: Tentotwo at December 15, 2019 05:38 AM (yhf6w)

597 raimondo has been showing up just before me some mornings, I figure it's like someone letting the dog or cat out.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 05:41 AM (ZCEU2)

598 I see raimondo is along for the ride this morning. Someone toss him up on the roof in the luggage carrier.
Posted by: Tentotwo

Or pull into the next rest area, and open the door

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:44 AM (vd8XM)

599 Saw a little bit of the Army Navy game.
When they introduced Trump!, he got a nice round of polite applause. /s

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:45 AM (vd8XM)

600 I don't mind waking up early some mornings, I just wish I knew which ones it would be, before i went to sleep

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:46 AM (vd8XM)

601
Or pull into the next rest area, and open the door
Posted by: Bruce
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Phhhht. No need to even slow down.

Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 05:47 AM (RhBlM)

602 My case its the opposite, like last night saw it was after 9 and thought I will be up in the 4am hour so better turn this off.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 05:50 AM (ZCEU2)

603 Phhhht. No need to even slow down.
Posted by: Gooshy

Hmmm. Even better!

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:50 AM (vd8XM)

604
Hey, I know you won't believe it, but I found an SF movie even I couldn't watch! It's called Battalion and oh geeez, it's a stinker.

I'd say it's worse than Prometheus, but that isn't possible.

Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 05:51 AM (RhBlM)

605 600 I don't mind waking up early some mornings, I just wish I knew which ones it would be, before i went to sleep

..........

I hear ya. I've been up since 4. Went to bed at 9 and fell asleep watching Green Acres. Woke up at midnight with my glasses still on and tv all lit up. The great thing about Sunday is that I can go back to bed if I want!

Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2019 05:52 AM (FE1WP)

606 My case its the opposite, like last night saw it was after 9 and thought I will be up in the 4am hour so better turn this off.
Posted by: Skip

I was head bobbing at 830 last night. Stayed up until 930...Woke up at 130 CST because I'm 29...could not get back to sleep.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:52 AM (vd8XM)

607 Up and got my coffee and fruitcake, mid day tortilla, venison jerky. Off to work!

Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2019 05:52 AM (UUkQp)

608 The great thing about Sunday is that I can go back to bed if I want!

Posted by: Molly k.

I'm with you.
I'm trying to decide if I should have a nap after breakfast, or wait until after lunch....or both

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:54 AM (vd8XM)

609 Up and got my coffee and fruitcake


The holidays do make for some fun breakfasts.
With coffee this AM I had homemade fig cookies and biscotti.
I still need a breakfast though

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 05:55 AM (vd8XM)

610 Ran across a movie called Battalion but not placing it, didn't think it was Sci-fi though

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 05:57 AM (ZCEU2)

611 Coffee is up

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 05:59 AM (ZCEU2)

612
Roku or Vudu, Skip. Alien robot invasion. NOTHING happens for 30 minutes.

Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 06:02 AM (RhBlM)

613 Not what I saw then

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:04 AM (ZCEU2)

614 Haven't started my Christnas baking yet. Stollen, biscotti, the best ever roll out sugar cookies, pecan fingers, praline strips, anise cookies are on the list of must-do.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:04 AM (Z/jzm)

615 Was up late bingeing on Hill Street Blues. Borrowed season 1 & 2 from the library

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 15, 2019 06:07 AM (Z/jzm)

616 Minor correction. Bless your heart is not exactly FU, it is better translated as:

You're an F'ing moron!

Posted by: Linda Fox at December 15, 2019 06:08 AM (3uqJZ)

617 NOOD

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 06:10 AM (vd8XM)

618 Said yesterday the EMT is the only time I usually don't declare nood, guess I should.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 06:13 AM (ZCEU2)

619 My late aunt would have LOVED that purple house!

Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2019 06:59 AM (7hcwx)

620 You don't get the snow shoveling joke?

I and my brothers had to shovel our driveway for free. When asked to shovel the neighbor's driveway, we got paid and hot chocolate too. And it was A SNOW DAY!!! Time to go sledding!!

The joke's on you.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at December 15, 2019 08:37 AM (EMi53)

621 You morons!

That is not a Marilyn Monroe PROTRACTOR.

It is a Marilyn Monroe AMERICAN CURVE.

It is much superior to the traditional French Curve, available on Amazon.

https://tinyurl.com/sosj2qn

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at December 15, 2019 08:55 AM (EMi53)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 12-07-2019 [Hosted By: Moviegique]

Tel Aviv On Fire


I have, in the past, noted the irony that Chinese films seem a lot less censored than those from Hollywood, and today I will note the irony that Israeli movies seem a lot less political. (This is true of Israeli movies, I will say, but absolutely not Palestinian movies. Palestinian movies—every one we've seen—framed blowing civilians up as a Good Thing, and indeed in many cases the only happy ending.) Case in point, Tel Aviv on Fire: a wacky comedy about a Palestinian soap opera writer who finds the fate of his soap opera characters—and the desires of people on either side of the wall regarding those fates—are tied to his own.

tel aviv 01.jpg
Maisa Abd Elhadi (Mariam) doubts I can stick this landing.


Our hero is Salam, a slacker we first meet as he tries to win back his ex-, Mariam. But as she points out, and he can't deny, he's just bumbling through life, and even the soap opera he's starting to work on—well, he just got the job because his uncle, the producer, needs someone with good Hebrew for his Arabic actors (who are playing Israelis). Their soap opera, "Tel Aviv on Fire", takes place on the eve of the Six-Day War, and the plot is that a Palestinian general sends his lover across the border to seduce and spy on (and ultimately kill, presumably) the Israeli General.

Salam helps out with some simple pronunciations but then immediately objects to a situation where the one of the generals compliments the heroine's beauty by saying "You look explosive." He earns the ire of the writer by objecting to that line but wins the favor of the French star, Tala. As tense as things are there, things really heat up for him when he's stopped at the border by a belligerent commander, Assi. Salam tries to smooth things out by claiming to write the show, and giving the commander some inside info.

tel aviv 02.jpg
Salam tries to keep it professional, but you know how actresses are.


Well, as it turns out Assi's wife is a huge fan of the show, as are her girlfriends, and Assi is rather annoyed by her enchantment with the Palestinian general. "He's a terrorist!" Assi exclaims in exasperation, to which his wife retorts, "Not everything is about politics." (Of course, the Six-Day War was the attempt of the Arabic world to wipe out Israel and as we have seen nearly succeeded, and this soap is definitely meant as propaganda, but "not everything is about politics".)

Anyway, Assi is pissed that the Israeli general is such a stiff and he demands Salam write him better. Salam, who is completely at Assi's mercy—he cannot cross into Palestine without Assi's approval—exploits this by suggesting Assi write the scenes that he wants to see from the Israeli general. Before you know it, the Israeli general is the hot ticket, and the dramatic conflict endears him even further to Lubna. But he's also slipping in little messages to Mariam that she invariable sees because everyone in the hospital she works at watches "Tel Aviv on Fire", especially as the audience grows with the shows unexpected twists and turns.

Salam grows as well. Assi's contributions got him a shot to actually script the show (especially after the pissed-off writer quit) but he realizes that the Israeli commander's experiences can only partly fuel thing, and so he starts to write the romantic things from his relationship (and from anyone he can eavesdrop on, like a true writer).

Assi unfortunately grows increasingly bellicose: Salam has promised him (back when he was pretending to write the show) that the Israeli general and the Palestinian spy would get married. But the show's backers aren't going to allow that. His uncle's solution is simple: Have the wedding, but have Tala be strapped for explosives so she can blow everyone up. Salam argues that's too cliché, they've all seen it a million times. (I wasn't kidding about Palestinian movies.)

tel aviv 03.jpg
The uncle is played by Nadim Sawalha, a character actor in many English-language movies, like "The Spy Who Loved Me".


So at our climactic moment, we have Salam needing to assuage Assi, and his uncle, and his uncle's Palestinian financiers, and Mariam (because Lubna is coming on strong), and not least to defend his newly acquired position as a writer of some skill and the self-respect that has brought him. The solution he does come up with is quite delightful.

It's a lot of fun. And it's really not very political. (In fact, you'll see some critics complaining exactly that: It's not political enough! It goes for goofy fun instead of biting satire!) The anodyne suggestion made here is, essentially, "what we've been doing up till now hasn't worked, maybe we should try something different." And I can't help but note the subtext of the financiers basically stoking the fires of hate.

The stars of the film, Kais Nashif (as Salam) and Lubna Azabal (Tala, Coriolanus, Incendies), co-starred in 2005's Paradise Now which was my introduction to Palestinian cinema, and features the "happy ending" of one of the characters blowing himself up on a bus full of Israeli soldiers. It's a great introduction to the mindset, really, which is "Jews are evil. They oppress us and are responsible for all our woes. We must kill them all." I can only recommend it for that purpose—understanding the mindset—because it was genuinely morally repugnant (and showered with awards, naturally).

It would be nice to think that that mindset were changing but director/co-writer Sameh Zoabi (writer/director of 2010's charming Man Without A Cell Phone) is Israeli as are all the producers (from what I can tell). It's pretty routine to hear cries for "solutions" and "compromise" from that side of the wall. But the next Palestinian movie I see with that viewpoint will be the first.


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She's hesitant because the targets she's shooting at are...gasp...pictures of Palestinian "Freedom Fighters".

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1 Ah Hah!

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 14, 2019 08:08 PM (VNfwt)

2 Popcorn time

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:09 PM (ZCEU2)

3 Watching Rudolph over here Boss!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:09 PM (Y4EXg)

4 Guy in the last pic looks like Borat.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 14, 2019 08:09 PM (b7IdW)

5 meh.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2019 08:10 PM (KP5rU)

6 Not any movies this week but slowly getting through the British tv series Danger UXB, finished 7 episodes so far, very watchable.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:11 PM (ZCEU2)

7 3 Watching Rudolph over here Boss!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:09 PM (Y4EXg)

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The original How the Grinch Stole Christmas is currently on TBS.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:11 PM (CAJOC)

8 The original How the Grinch Stole Christmas is currently on TBS.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:11 PM (CAJOC)


"You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch."

Sung by Thurl Ravenscroft, AKA the voice of "Tony the Tiger."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 14, 2019 08:12 PM (b7IdW)

9 Thurl Ravenscroft was apparently his real name, too.

Posted by: moviegique at December 14, 2019 08:13 PM (CcUfv)

10 8 The original How the Grinch Stole Christmas is currently on TBS.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:11 PM (CAJOC)


"You're a foul on, Mr. Grinch."

Sung by Thurl Ravenscroft, AKA the voice of "Tony the Tiger."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 14, 2019 08:12 PM (b7IdW)

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They just don't make names like that anymore.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:13 PM (CAJOC)

11 Uhhh

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 08:14 PM (Tnijr)

12 I do love the voice of Boris Karloff.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at December 14, 2019 08:14 PM (Vf4Y7)

13 Movies with Mikey, John Wick 3

https://youtu.be/pAZtxmCRnxs

(Spoilers: Some people try to kill John Wick, but this proves to be too hopeful and he ends up shooting them twice in the head.)

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2019 08:15 PM (LxTcq)

14 9 Thurl Ravenscroft was apparently his real name, too.

Posted by: moviegique at December 14, 2019 08:13 PM (CcUfv)


Totally awesome name.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 14, 2019 08:15 PM (b7IdW)

15 The original How the Grinch Stole Christmas is currently on TBS.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:11 PM (CAJOC)

THE GRINCH! MY HOMIE!!!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 14, 2019 08:15 PM (dJGLL)

16 Not any movies this week but slowly getting through
the British tv series Danger UXB, finished 7 episodes so far, very
watchable.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:11 PM (ZCEU2)


It's top notch. Anthony Andrews was good as always. Deborah Watling of Dr. Who fame was ever so lovely.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2019 08:15 PM (XKWDE)

17 Wherein art all thou fair motherf*****s?

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 14, 2019 08:16 PM (qMnBn)

18 And Boris Karloff was really Bill Pratt.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2019 08:17 PM (38jed)

19 just finished GWTW on TCM. Still awesome. I wonder how much longer until it goes down the memory hole?

Posted by: vivi at December 14, 2019 08:17 PM (11H2y)

20 The kids were watching The Return of a Man Called Horse this week - I caught a glimpse of "Elk Woman" who looked awfully familiar. Clearly an older actress and had the bearing of someone that had been in the business forever.

After looking into her, it turns out it was Gale Sondergaard (b. 1899). She tested for The Wicked Witch in TWOO. Turns out makeup couldn't quite get her ugly enough to land the role.

https://tinyurl.com/wr9l3o2

Interesting.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:18 PM (Y4EXg)

21 It's Oscar bait season. So far the only interesting film is 1917.

We have another blacks are horribly oppressed film.

Posted by: WOPR at December 14, 2019 08:18 PM (/eFK2)

22 just finished GWTW on TCM. Still awesome. I wonder how much longer until it goes down the memory hole?

Posted by: vivi at December 14, 2019 08:17 PM (11H2y)


#Soon.
#WhitePatriachyDelendaEst

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 14, 2019 08:21 PM (BiNEL)

23 Oh FFS. They have to show Grinch opposite Rudolph?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2019 08:22 PM (gd9RK)

24 I wanted to go see "Richard Jewell." but it snowed. And going to a theater is a chore. And it snowed.

Watched Gorgo instead. Limey Godzilla.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 14, 2019 08:23 PM (x8Wzq)

25 Oh FFS. They have to show Grinch opposite Rudolph?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

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I know! It's just The Man trying to keep us down!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:23 PM (Y4EXg)

26 25 Oh FFS. They have to show Grinch opposite Rudolph?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

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I know! It's just The Man trying to keep us down!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:23 PM (Y4EXg)

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What channel is Rudolph on?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:24 PM (CAJOC)

27 Okay, this is a tv show. Has anyone else watched Bob Hearts Aboshola? It's another Chuck Lorre comedy. I want to completely write it off but it kept surprising me. Bob runs the family business (played by the lead from Mike and Molly). He has younger twin brother and sister that are woke idiots. He falls in live with Aboshola, whose a single mom, nurse from Nigeria. The blacks have their own disfunctional families. They made fun of woke advertising. And when his mom has a stroke, they show him in the hospital chapel.

I'm not sure what to make of it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 14, 2019 08:24 PM (Lqy/e)

28 Oh FFS. They have to show Grinch opposite Rudolph?
Posted by: Bandersnatch


Decisions be hard, yo!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 14, 2019 08:24 PM (BiNEL)

29 ooh movies

Posted by: votermom planning her campaign platform at December 14, 2019 08:24 PM (G546f)

30 @WOPR ... Parasite, reviewed here last time, is worth a watch. I'm not sure if it's Oscar-bait or not, since I have no idea how the Koreans feel about it.

1917 is on my list.

Posted by: moviegique at December 14, 2019 08:25 PM (CcUfv)

31 Rudolph is on CBS. alexthechick pointed out -- before I hung up on her to watch Rudolph -- that it's an amazing re-mastering. You can see every stictch on the puppets.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2019 08:26 PM (gd9RK)

32 I watched Gone with the Wind some years ago, because I felt an obligation to do so.

Did. Not. Like.

Carol Burnett was a much more likeable Scarlett.

I do admit, though, that I liked Olivia Dehaviland. Far as I know she still ain't dead.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 14, 2019 08:26 PM (x8Wzq)

33 I have Hulu and it says Rudolph is on CBS. But it wont let me watch.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 08:26 PM (TdMsT)

34 I have to say that some of my favorite movies are made in Australia. They also get a thumbs up for doing FarScape.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 14, 2019 08:27 PM (2DOZq)

35 Ladyl - go to ustvgo.tv and pick CBS there.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:27 PM (Y4EXg)

36 Hey everybody. Movie thread yay! Thanks Moviegique! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2019 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)

37 The uncle is played by Nadim Sawalha, a character actor in many English-language movies, like "The Spy Who Loved Me".





A funny story about The Spy Who Loved Me. Well I think it's funny. During the filming at an excavation site in Egypt where Bond and Barbara Bach are being chased by Jaws. They wanted Richard Kiel to run across some scaffolding. He said he couldn't because he's afraid of heights. They looked up at him (7'2") and he said, Oh I'm even afraid to be up this high

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2019 08:29 PM (XKWDE)

38 If fire fighters fight fires and crime fighters fight crime, what do freedom fighters fight? - Some Old Dead White Guy

Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 08:29 PM (7HyDs)

39 Oh FFS. They have to show Grinch opposite Rudolph?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Easy choice for me. Grinch. Rudolph was kind of uncomfortable for some reason. As a kid, one thing that got me is how did the abominable snowman shrink from a towering form that makes mountains look small to a bulky furry guy with bad teefs.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 14, 2019 08:29 PM (x8Wzq)

40 Hey, qdpsteve!

TQM -- Hey, that's a pretty funny story!

Posted by: moviegique at December 14, 2019 08:30 PM (CcUfv)

41 35 Ladyl - go to ustvgo.tv and pick CBS there.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:27 PM (Y4EXg)


I'll try that, thanks!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 14, 2019 08:31 PM (TdMsT)

42 And they've decided to follow the Grinch with Elf on the Shelf.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:31 PM (CAJOC)

43 37 got a chuckle from me

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:31 PM (ZCEU2)

44 GWTW is overrated.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 14, 2019 08:32 PM (/OpAr)

45 How interesting. Thank you for the review, moviegique.

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:32 PM (zr5Kq)

46 Grinch is Dr. Seuss and Chuck Jones (all the best Bugs Bunnys). With jazz. It's perfect.

Rudolph I haven't seen in forever. The claymation is amazing. I pity the kids today who have to settle for CGI.

Tonight it's Rudolph for the nostalgia and the amazing remastering.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2019 08:33 PM (gd9RK)

47 39 Oh FFS. They have to show Grinch opposite Rudolph?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Easy choice for me. Grinch. Rudolph was kind of uncomfortable for some reason. As a kid, one thing that got me is how did the abominable snowman shrink from a towering form that makes mountains look small to a bulky furry guy with bad teefs.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 14, 2019 08:29 PM (x8Wzq)

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Back in college, on of my bosses had his own version of the elf song.

"We are Santa's elves
Playing with ourselves..."

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:33 PM (CAJOC)

48 1939 was the year of the classic.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 14, 2019 08:33 PM (2DOZq)

49 Thanks for reading, runner!

Posted by: moviegique at December 14, 2019 08:34 PM (CcUfv)

50 Yukon Cornelius needed to get guitar strings?

I had missed that all these years.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2019 08:34 PM (Y4EXg)