The Morning Report - 11/19/18

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Good morning kids. Shortened work week as we head into the home stretch towards Thanksgiving and the start of the Christmas season. Let's dive right in. First up in politics, well at long last the attempted theft of the Florida and Georgia marquee races has failed and Rick Scott, Ron DeSantis and Brian Kemp have officially won. Bloated, blithering, blathering Bolshevik bobodon Stacey "Tank" Abrams exhibited the class, grace and dignity that Democrats are noted for by refusing to acknowledge that Brian Kemp is in fact the legitimate governor of Georgia. Meh, gey henge dich mit a tzucker schtrickel un hob'n'er ziessen toydt." Also of note, geriatric Lt. Uhura doppelganger Brenda Snipes has resigned as Broward County election supervisor, presumably to spend more time with her family. Just as she was getting her life turned around, too. Damn shame, that. In all seriousness, I hope that in his new term, Governor DeSantis does everything he can to dismantle the Broward's and Palm Beach Counties' corrupt Democrat-led election rigging enterprise. Along with the rule of a just and stable law - also on the ropes in our republic - free and fair elections are the glue that holds our society together. This kind of banana republic crime is poison.

In related news, it turns out that the Dems failed to swipe at least 5 seats in Florida's state legislature, and the final one is still in a recount. Also, RINO Mia Love is now holding onto a thin margin in her race in Utah (have heard nothing new on this as of this morning). Still, on the down side, Orange County, California which was once staunchly Republican has finally turned blue, owing to the mass influx of immigrants, legal and otherwise, to the region. The usual gang of moneyed leftists are trying to buy the Mississippi Senate seat vacated by Thad Cochran for Mike Espy in his runoff against Cindy Hyde-Smith, vapid, bucktoothed, bug-eyed dolt Loopy Ocasio-Fiasco proves yet again that she is utterly clueless about how our government works and is also part of a more and more open revolt against Nancy Palsi and the geriatric generation within the Democrat Party, a newly elected Tennessee Dem is a shining example of the detest her party has for Republicans and actual Americans, what will the GOP do with its time left as a lame duck, Kamala-Toe and her anti-American rant against ICE, Leftist mega-donors are already plotting strategery for 2020, and time for the House Freedom Caucus to declare independence. How, what, and why is open to interpretation on that one. And lastly, a lament about our nation that echoes my sentiments from last week (save it for cocktail hour).

On the Invasion front, the residents of Tijuana, Mexico are not thrilled to have the invaders in their midst and are loudly protesting them. Maybe Brenda Snipes can go there and steal the elections for the Democrats in 2020. In Mueller-gate, the President is giving acting AG Matt Whitaker total freedom to do whatever he needs/wants in regard to overseeing the witch hunt. The NRA and 2-A Foundation are suing Washington State over its ruling raising the legal age to purchase firearms to 21 and in First Amendment and Fake News news, Mark Levin raises a cromulent point about the Jm J Acosta decision and a look at the NeverTrumpers' attack on the Federalist Society from, appropriately enough, The Federalist website.

Moving to the international desk, a look at the Brexit fiasco, Macron's chutzpah, a Palestinian man who was refused a Muslim burial for the unforgivable crime of selling land to evil Jooz was given dispensation to be buried in a Jewish cemetery, and a report that Merkwurdige Merkel tried pressuring the president of Romania not to move their embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. I wonder where her father was during the war...

A couple of articles on defense from the Free Beacon, first on our reported lack of preparedness in the wake of evolving terror threats (does that include the Democrat Party?) and the desperately needed expansion and modernization of our armed forces is for sure imperiled by the new Democrat-controlled House.

Domestically, the president toured areas devastated by the California wildfire with Gavin Newsom and vowed to give full assistance to the region, he also took a swipe at DHS chief Kirstjen Nielsen who is supposedly about to get the chop, Kentucky has won the right to be right-to-work, the administration is rescinding Obama era SNAP non-work requirements, record low unemployment recorded in 10 of the 57 states, IBD calls for the privatization of the Postal Service, Jersey governor Phil Murphy is an incompetent, blame-shifting jerk (and thus perfectly suited for that job), on Amazon's decision to locate in DC and NYC, and Bernardo Sandersnista Emanuel Goldstein-izes Wal-Mart.

From hither and yon, Hollywood calls for a boycott of Georgia since the Dems failed to steal the governorship for the gap-toothed gargantua, the Cleveland Browns supposedly are looking at Condoleeza Rice as a potential head coach (that'll bring back the fans), oh joy, the Obamas are on their way to being billionaires (and they most certainly didn't build that), Daniel Greenfield on the Democrat airbrushing of history, with the rise of the new/old socialism the future of American Jewry is Orthodox, another look back at the Jonestown massacre 40 years on, the great Victor Davis Hanson on the all-seeing progressive synopticon, and lastly a feel good story - hundreds of mourners show up for the funeral of a veteran who had no family. Despite all the hate we see every day, there is still goodness in this world and it does a heart good to see it.

Anyway, links from around the world, across the nation and up your street. Have a better one and remain blessed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:00 AM




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Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2018 07:01 AM (Dagiw)

2 Also of note, geriatric Lt. Uhura doppelganger Brenda Snipes has
resigned as Broward County election supervisor, presumably to spend more
time with her family.

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So she won't be going to prison, then?

Posted by: ShainS - Kavanaugh Shitshow Survivor at November 19, 2018 07:01 AM (WqPYg)

3 damn./..

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2018 07:01 AM (Dagiw)

4 Good morning horde you have my permission to take the whole week off.

Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2018 07:02 AM (UdKB7)

5 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 07:03 AM (JFO2v)

6 Hollywood wants to boycott Georgia? Fine I will boycott California.

Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2018 07:04 AM (UdKB7)

7 Early.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 07:06 AM (2El4P)

8 Morning Horde! from the other side.

Posted by: TickledPink at November 19, 2018 07:06 AM (VpnSm)

9 i'm only up because i woke up out of a sound sleep to use the can... (beer late @ night when you're nearly 29 is a bad idea... filed to log book)

and there's water running outside somewhere...

SoCal so no, it's not frozen pipes, and they're new, so likely not a break.

that means vagrants.

LAPD was called just before 0400. and it's a "priority" call, but not code 3, which means "whenever" they get done with coffee and doughnuts, partner sex, shakedowns, whatever it is they do instead of fighting crime...

oh well, at least i got a day walker weekday thread "First!" out of it...

and a big water bill, because who knows how long it's been on.... or when those lazy bastards will get here.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2018 07:06 AM (Dagiw)

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The Obamas Are On Their Way to Becoming a "Billion Dollar Brand"

At least Trump became rich before becoming president. And he actually did something to earn it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2018 07:07 AM (LsBY9)

11 The Dems edge in the House is almost completely because of CA. They will hold a 45-8 Edge.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2018 07:08 AM (bim/x)

12 In terrible coincidences, the Redskins' QB suffered the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day after Joe suffered it. Joe was in attendance. Even the final score was the same as 33 years ago: 23-21.

Posted by: Vendette at November 19, 2018 07:08 AM (tT986)

13 Morning Horde! from the other side.
Posted by: TickledPink



Sweet! Heaven has AoSHQ!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 07:09 AM (2El4P)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread (11/18/18 )

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The Quotes of The Day

Quote I

“What hurts the most is this wanton disregard for the public safety of the community, apparently for some sort of personal vendetta, I don’t know … but it’s definitely gonna be difficult. It just made a difficult job more difficult.” Garden City (MO) Police Chief Thomas Alber


Quote II

For example, the several hundred people who were arrested for felony rioting at the time of the President's inauguration have all been let go. But, on the other hand, there’s complete Unequal Justice in Charlottesville, at the Unite The Right Rally. People who were simply defending themselves are going to jail. The people who attacked them were being let off.

So, yes, we've reached the limits of American pluralism. Peter Brimelow


Quote III

When stupidity seems a sufficient explanation, there is no need for recourse to any more elaborate analysis. Michael M. Uhlmann
h/t Hrothgar


Quote IV

“Everything government touches turns to crap.” Ringo Starr

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Tonight's giggle...........

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Brilliant, fvcking stupendously brilliant.

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Sissy Patriotic French President has a wee bit of a problem.

At least one person has died and 229 others have been injured as around 282,000 people protested against soaring fuel prices throughout France. Police used tear gas to stop demonstrators at the Champs-Elysees.
Starting from the early hours of Saturday, tens of thousands of people have taken to the streets of French cities to express their discontent with the policies of President Emmanuel Macron and the French government’s recent decision to raise fuel prices through additional taxes.

“Gasoline prices never stop rising. It’s the straw that broke the camel’s back. Macron and his buddies just let… things go from bad to worse,” one protester told RT.

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If this teacher is telling the truth, The Snowflake Nation continues to swell.

“Long story short, one of the kids wanted to see the counselor, and then two days later I was asked to leave the building and never come back,” he said during a school board hearing this Tuesday, according to station KMOV.

The school revealed to him that the student had told them he’d been “hurt” my Furkin’s remark, and according to KTVI, this “hurt” that Furkin allegedly delivered to the boy counted as an act of “bullying.”


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I wish Congress critter Eric Swalwell (D-CA) had a pair of balls and was honest about his intentions.

Dem Rep Left Speechless After Dana Loesch Asks the One Gun Control Question He Couldn’t Answer

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No word if this is the congress critter as a young boy............


Strong resemblance.

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Will organizations and businesses calling for "open borders" pick up this tab? Forbes Mag: Illegal Immigrants Cost Taxpayers $18.5 Billion/Yr. In Health Care Costs

Illegal immigrants cost the U.S. billions a year in health care costs that the illegals never pay for, a Forbes Mag. report says. And that is even though federal law supposedly prohibits this spending.

Federal law claims that no federal dollars can go to pay for health care for illegals. Unfortunately, this is a smoke screen because literally BILLIONS of our tax dollars go to fund medical care for illegals anyway.

Forbes magazine’s Chris Conover recent ran the numbers and came up with at least $18.5 billion of our tax dollars wasted on health care for illegal immigrants.


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I'm guessing we all have had some crappy maybe even shitty jobs over the years. Probably none this shitty.


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Murder is murder. Countries kill their own citizens, shocking isn't it. Why wont the USA hold Saudi Arabia responsible?

There’s One Reason America Refuses to Hold Saudi Arabia Responsible for Murder

The apparent extrajudicial execution of Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey on Oct. 2, 2018 seemed like a watershed moment in the protracted push to hold the autocratic, theocratic Saudi regime accountable.


The moment seems to have passed. The recent U.S. elections have overshadowed the story, and neither Khashoggi’s murder nor U.S. relations to the Saudi government were election issues.


How is it possible that neither party took advantage of the controversy to stake out a position opposing such a criminal state? The answer is that Saudi Arabia is a linchpin of U.S. imperialism, and the American way of life makes it inevitable that we turn a blind eye to murder and crime from regimes like Saudi Arabia. Undoing that is something neither party intends to do.


Besides being a "Journalist", He was also an Islamic terrorism sympathizer.


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As of late there has been a big push for more compassion in the criminal justice system. From prison reform to allowing felons to vote. #MeToo movement doesn't believe in forgiveness or compassion.

Before killing himself with a drug intended for rapid and painless animal euthanasia, Richard A. Morrisett had endured a nightmare at the University of Texas in Austin. The 57-year-old tenured professor of pharmacology and toxicology was once a rising star in the College of Pharmacy – a man regarded as a first-rate research scientist and teacher during his 21 years at the state's flagship university. Morrisett's research offered new insights into alcohol-related brain disorders and alcoholism – an arcane area of research among neuroscientists. Some colleagues called him “brilliant.”

Morrisett's career, however, was destroyed by a single newspaper article. Published by the Austin American-Statesman, a metropolitan daily, the article dredged up an ugly episode from Morrisett's past – a domestic violence incident involving his girlfriend at the time.


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Bill Maher is a fvcking a$$hole.

Merely days after the death of the comic world’s superhero, Stan Lee, television host and political commentator Bill Maher has blamed him for creating a culture responsible for electing President Donald Trump.

Lee, who died on Monday at the age of 95, was the creator or co-creator of characters such as the Fantastic Four, Thor, Iron Man, the Hulk, and the X-Men. How this led a generation to elect Trump is unclear from Maher’s post, titled “Adulting,” that he shared on his blog early Saturday.

“The guy who created Spider-Man and the Hulk has died, and America is in mourning,” he wrote in his post. “Deep, deep mourning for a man who inspired millions to, I don’t know, watch a movie, I guess.


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This is how your betters slobber over their desired Overlords.

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Wanna go on a cruise with me?

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The ONT Musical Interlude



November 18, 2017, Australian musician and songwriter Malcolm Young died age 64. Young was best known as a co-founder, rhythm guitarist, backing vocalist and songwriter for AC/DC. Except for a brief absence in 1988, he was with the band from its November 1973 beginning until retiring permanently in 2014. Young was born in 1953 in Glasgow before his family emigrated to Australia when he was 10. His family confirmed he was suffering from dementia in 2014. via thisdayinmusic.com

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November 18, 1962, Born on this day, Kirk Hammett, guitar, Metallica, (1991 UK No.5 single 'Enter Sandman', 1991 US & UK No.1 album 'Metallica'). via thisdayinmusic.com

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Digital Social Credits: How authoritarian and a new play in the Democrats playbook.

“As individuals rack up DSCs, they would have both a permanent balance they’ve earned over their lifetime and a current balance. They could cash the points in for experiences, purchases with participating vendors, support for causes, and transfer points to others for special occasions,” Yang states on his website. “As their permanent balance gets higher, they might qualify for various perks like throwing a pitch at a local ballgame, an audience with their local Congressperson or meeting their state’s most civic-minded athlete or celebrity.”


Sounds like this candidate has been culturally misappropriating from the Commies of China.


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That is an impressive resume, party planner and Genius Award Winner.

TANUGGYI, Myanmar -- A hot air balloon packed with pyrotechnics exploded over a crowd during a popular festival in Myanmar, sending revelers running for cover.

The frightening scene unfolded Nov. 14 during the Tazaungdaing Festival of Lights, an annual celebration that marks the end of the wet season in Myanmar. According to local media reports, festival organizers invite participants to launch unmanned balloons full of fireworks to usher in a new season.


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At the right place, at the right time with the right attitude. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

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Weekly commenter stats for week of 11-18-2018

Top 10 commenters:
1 [390 comments] 'Skip' [54.75 posts/day]
2 [386 comments] 'Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism'
3 [361 comments] 'hogmartin'
4 [357 comments] 'qdpsteve'
5 [345 comments] 'Jonah'
6 [330 comments] 'Yudhishthira's Dice'
7 [313 comments] 'willow'
8 [309 comments] 'Insomniac'
9 [305 comments] 'yankeefifth'
10 [302 comments] 'runner'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [51 names] 'Miklos, at the Waffle House' [7.16 unique names/day]
2 [40 names] 'Adirondack Patriot'
3 [35 names] 'LeftCoast Dawg'
4 [31 names] 'Duncanthrax'
5 [26 names] 'Notorious BFD'
6 [24 names] 'Duncanthrax'
7 [23 names] 'Bertram Cabot, Jr.'
8 [23 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
9 [23 names] 'Meade Lux Lewis'
10 [22 names] 'Julia Ioffe'

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1 Proverbs 5

For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil, but her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword. Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell. Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.

Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth. Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house...


Yea verily, even the Wisdom of Solomon teacheth us that into the crazed thou shalt not stick thine rod.

Posted by: mindful webworker - yes at November 18, 2018 09:44 PM (n3Kee)

2 Ont

Posted by: Beartooth at November 18, 2018 09:44 PM (QWpu1)

3 first

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 09:44 PM (H5knJ)

4 shuckydarns

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 09:45 PM (H5knJ)

5 Hey! Ringo's a Moron!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (HJhxx)

6 Aw, loads of content. Thanks! This might take a little while to... collate.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 09:47 PM (t+qrx)

7 And bear and I both read the entire content before commenting, including all links and videos, right, bear?

Posted by: mindful webworker - and you can believe me at November 18, 2018 09:47 PM (n3Kee)

8 How come, unlike the paintings posts, nobody ever talks about the sniper in the ONT pics? I mean, he's right there!

Posted by: mindful webworker - in a Waldo hat with a kitten at November 18, 2018 09:48 PM (n3Kee)

9 The frightening scene unfolded Nov. 14 during the Tazaungdaing Festival of Lights, an annual celebration that marks the end of the wet season in Myanmar. According to local media reports, festival organizers invite participants to launch unmanned balloons full of fireworks to usher in a new season.


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What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:49 PM (HJhxx)

10 Myanmar's problem is it had great brand capital as Burma. Now, who's ever heard of Myanmar?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (HJhxx)

11 Reading? I just look at the purty pictures.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (H5knJ)

12 Oh, and MisHum once again pulls a brilliant content rabbit out if that magic hat of his.

Huzzah!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:53 PM (HJhxx)

13 Beam me up Scotty

Posted by: Roger Ramjet at November 18, 2018 09:54 PM (NtIho)

14 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (CLcKT)

15 Oil is 51 bucks a barrel and the Europeans have taxed it so much the people are rioting. Good grief.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (gNCcC)

16 Bill Maher is a serious a hole. so he is at it again huh? Mayor dressed in a grotesque costume very shortly after Steve Irwin Crocodile Hunter died. It will give me great satisfaction to punch Bill Maher right in his face.

Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 09:56 PM (e/WPM)

17 15 Oil is 51 bucks a barrel and the Europeans have taxed it so much the people are rioting. Good grief.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (gNCcC)

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THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:56 PM (HJhxx)

18 It's the ONT! Another fabulous one, MisHum. Except the bits about the perversion of justice. That stuff pisses me off royally.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (TdMsT)

19 FYI:

Victor Davis Hanson is Mark Levin's guest tonight on Life, Liberty & Levin (FOX) starting in a minute.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (NtglE)

20 Where is that refinery fire? Worked in one to pay for college and there were a few frightening explosions and fires. Why they stuck me on the fire crew I'll never know.

I mean it wasn't like I was hitting on the plant manager's daughter.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (QWpu1)

21 Myanmar's problem is it had great brand capital as Burma. Now, who's ever heard of Myanmar?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (HJhxx)

Yeah, Myanmar-Shave just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (+F0Wk)

22 "Ocasio-Cortez: We Need To Work Our Butts Off To Take Back 'Three Chambers Of Congress'"

You know what has three chambers there, champ?

Lizard hearts.

*looks around hopefully*

OK, I don't know where I was going with that. Sorry.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 09:58 PM (t+qrx)

23 THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!

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The King is a fink!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 09:58 PM (9rIkM)

24 Now, who's ever heard of Myanmar?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM
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Seriously. Myanmar Shave? I don't think so.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 18, 2018 09:58 PM (NtglE)

25 Evening Friends in Grey Boxes!

That top pic is cool.

Posted by: ALH at November 18, 2018 09:59 PM (dczB+)

26 But you'll never take our ________.

Posted by: Lizardheart at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (H5knJ)

27

Several Hollywood actors have called for a boycott of Georgia's film industry after Republican Brian Kemp officially won the state's gubernatorial contest.

The reaction from Hollywood comes after Abrams has continued to argue, without evidence, that Kemp purposely suppressed black voters while he led the Georgia Secretary of State's office.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (aKsyK)

28 Brilliant, fvcking stupendously brilliant

Stunning. Hard to believe the Democrats elected a parody meme poster girl to one of the three branches of Congress.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for cortez eye exame at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (n3Kee)

29 THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:56 PM (HJhxx)


THEY CERTAINLY ARE!

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (q7IoS)

30 I realize it is not the Food Thread anymore, but just realized that I started Tatar Beefsteak in the Hungarian Way one week ago, so probably tomorrow, wish us well.

Posted by: Miklos, tatar steak is actually an American thing at November 18, 2018 10:01 PM (zCyNd)

31 Where is that refinery fire?

Maybe the BP fire in Texas City?

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 10:01 PM (1uG1d)

32 I worked my ass off this weekend getting ready for my kids visit.

Good thing I can rest at work tomorrow.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (9rIkM)

33 Thirst!

time to go light the charcoal for cooking the steak that will be dinner!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (Dagiw)

34 I'm taking bets on how long it's going to take for Washington DC to chew up Ocasio Cortez and spit her out.. if ignorance is bliss Cortez must be living in a permanent orgasm

Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (uVK9r)

35 Brenda Snipes resigned! No word if she has committed suicide yet with three shots to the back of the head, though.

Posted by: jmel at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (OeWgo)

36 Brenda Snipes resigned! No word if she has committed suicide yet with three shots to the back of the head, though.
Posted by: jmel at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (OeWgo)

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The penalty for getting caught?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 18, 2018 10:03 PM (+F0Wk)

37 The "Good News Bible" version of Proverbs 5:
Don't put your dick in crazy.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:03 PM (3HNOQ)

38 Yeah, Myanmar-Shave just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (+F0Wk)

Seriously. Myanmar Shave? I don't think so.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 18, 2018 09:58 PM (NtglE)

All hail the Horde hive mind!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (+F0Wk)

39 Nite all, off too bed.

To bed here, be well.

Posted by: Farmer at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (yJ1e6)

40 Brenda Snipes resigned!
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Now who's gonna fix the 2020 elections????

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (kufk0)

41 Low comment volume this past week.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (NWiLs)

42 Read all the content and links and still in the top 50? wow, im pressed with myself!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (GBteo)

43 Night Farmer.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:05 PM (T3zWB)

44 Good evening all.

OANN showed a clip of a French government spokesman defending Macron's actions, and while I don't remember the exact wording, it was along the lines of "the French government will not be held hostage by these thugs, it will stand up for what it believes in." Arrogance, thy name is Jacques. (or whatever)

Posted by: T at November 18, 2018 10:05 PM (Vgw1E)

45 41 Low comment volume this past week.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe the 'hq has low T?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:05 PM (GBteo)

46 I am Duncanthrax.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 10:05 PM (DMUuz)

47 23 THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!

Posted by: Cicero
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The King is a fink!!
Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 09:58 PM (9rIkM)

The Lone Haranguer strikes again!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 10:05 PM (NWiLs)

48 Brenda Snipes finally realized the meaning of "The Peter Principle."

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:05 PM (3HNOQ)

49 No, I am Duncanthrax.

Posted by: ALH at November 18, 2018 10:06 PM (dczB+)

50 A the content is amazing

B the content is amazing

C I wish I took the pic. Damn.

Thanx MisHum

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:06 PM (T3zWB)

51 34 I'm taking bets on how long it's going to take for Washington DC to chew up Ocasio Cortez and spit her out.. if ignorance is bliss Cortez must be living in a permanent orgasm
Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (uVK9r)

No, not really
See:
Gwen Moore
Hank Johnson
Sheila Jackson Lee
Cynthia Kinney

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 10:06 PM (aA3+G)

52 Who is Duncanthrax?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:06 PM (kufk0)

53 That Metallica concert in Russia is insane. It looks like a million people.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (CE5C/)

54 Wow, wonderful content - Thanks, MisHum!

Baby Sister Update follows

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (vUcdz)

55 ibguy!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (9rIkM)

56 Baby Sister Update: Birthday edition

Seems weird to write that title, but her long-time friend Sue D arranged for Joyce's Ohio folks to gather together to join in celebrating what would have been her 55th birthday.

As Sue said in her invitation:

"This gathering comes **EXACTLY** 25 years after having Joyce's 30th birthday party at my home! Even the same house! So I'm serving BW3 wings, as I did 25 years ago :-)"

So we gathered this afternoon to plant this tree in Joyce's memory, and to share fond stories and memories (and some yummy wings). And guess who joined us?

The one and only LadyL! What a treat to have her there to celebrate Joyce's memory. And of course this says so much for this community.

I am so grateful to Sue for making this happen (and I'm sure that Joyce is, too).

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (vUcdz)

57 I'm taking bets on how long it's going to take for Washington DC to chew up Ocasio Cortez and spit her out..
Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (uVK9r)


No, she will be swaddled in bubble wrap. She's too valuable once she's sworn in"inaugurated". As long as she learns to play nice, she will spend the next 60 years with the Party hand up her ass as a golden sockpuppet.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (t+qrx)

58 Low comment volume . . . election burnout probably. Also, this place had gotten a bit angsty (not a criticism; I don't exempt myself from the sentiment).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (H5knJ)

59 Macron in German means Turd.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (T3zWB)

60 Dear Mr. Boot,

Go DIAF! Preferably in steerage along with the other pretend conservatives.

Signed,
7.62 x 39



Posted by: Beartooth at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (QWpu1)

61 Starting on decorating the house for Christmas early this year.
I've also been culling through my decorations, downsizing a little, and hopefully making someone else's holiday happier when they find it at the Goodwill.

Posted by: ALH at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (dczB+)

62 Several Hollywood actors have called for a boycott of Georgia's film industry after Republican Brian Kemp officially won the state's gubernatorial contest.

The reaction from Hollywood comes after Abrams has continued to argue, without evidence, that Kemp purposely suppressed black voters while he led the Georgia Secretary of State's office.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (aKsyK)


Honestly, I don't think it would be such a bad thing if they did. The film industry's probably brought some business to the state, but it's also brought in a bunch of hipsters and "artistes" who make Atlanta even more of a nightmare and turn Georgia that much bluer. And it gives the Chamber of Commerce crowd that much more leverage over the GOP.

If a film boycott will weaken those two groups, I say go for it.

Posted by: T at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (Vgw1E)

63 Macron in German means Turd.
Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (T3zWB)

-------

Nope. Not enough syllables.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 10:09 PM (HJhxx)

64 y'all racists made Brenda Snipes resign

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 18, 2018 10:09 PM (oAY8z)

65 Great ONT. Thank you. May I add for discussion my last comment sadly willowed in the weapons free thread:

"would definitely be better if we could hold off the freezing times.

Posted by: yankeefifth


Seriously.

All these fucking imbeciles pushing GoreBull Warmening as THE END OF THE WORLD have no idea what the true "resting" state of this planet is (hint - we are currently in a slightly warmer interglacial period IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ICE AGE) and has been for the last 20 million years:

MIND-FUCKINGLY COLD!!!

If only public policy was made in the US by people with brains, rather than ignorant people based on hysteria.

/Rant off
Posted by: Sharkman"

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 10:09 PM (2eKoI)

66 d.c. will love little lupe. braindead peeps are easily led. she will be perfect. soon to have a freezer full of cash.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 10:09 PM (KP5rU)

67
This next two years are going to be non stop fun, I bet.

Te President should do an XO outlawing liberals and Democrats.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 18, 2018 10:10 PM (S/hVx)

68 When stupidity seems a sufficient explanation, there is no need for recourse to any more elaborate analysis.


Never ascribe to incompetence what can be adequately explained by malice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 10:10 PM (yQpMk)

69 Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:06 PM (T3zWB)

Thanks Smaug

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 10:10 PM (aA3+G)

70
Low comment volume this past week.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe the 'hq has low T?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes


The orange juice lacks palp.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 10:10 PM (aKsyK)

71 Ibguy! Li'l bro!

Posted by: Ladyl at November 18, 2018 10:11 PM (TdMsT)

72 snowflake nation

By praising certain students for standing, the students who made the decision not to stand [for the Pledge] were humiliated and then teased...

I would say, would the last one leaving reality turn out the lights, but there's nobody left who knows how.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the horror! the horror! at November 18, 2018 10:11 PM (n3Kee)

73 Good evening, everyone, and thank you.
This is not a complaint, just an observation. I have no idea how a YouTube video, uploaded today, with no fanfare or link-stuff, can garner a Like.
I guess there's some YouTube God (or Goddess--hey, baby!) who looks over these things. Great.
I sure wish there was someone in the same league who could send me a few bucks so I could stop being underwater, money wise.

But you know, those gods and goddesses in Greek and Roman times were really, really specific, so perhaps they need time to catch up to current times.
Thanks for the like.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:11 PM (l9m7l)

74 58 Low comment volume . . . election burnout probably. Also, this place had gotten a bit angsty (not a criticism; I don't exempt myself from the sentiment).

bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (H5knJ)

..........

I hear that. Been a fucked up bit lately (not the Horde). Our country is one step from a shit hole. Yay demoncraps!

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:11 PM (T3zWB)

75 even money on whether or not Cortez gets cast aside or sent to finishing school to perfect her agitprop

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 18, 2018 10:12 PM (oAY8z)

76 THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!


They stink on ice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 10:13 PM (yQpMk)

77 I didn't know Ringo Starr was a libertarian. The things you learn here.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:13 PM (sdi6R)

78 Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (vUcdz)

Dusty in here

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 10:14 PM (aA3+G)

79 Also, this place had gotten a bit angsty
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (H5knJ)


Yeah. I've noticed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:14 PM (GBteo)

80 Rutgers university should be ashamed of occasional -Cortez but I doubt it.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 18, 2018 10:15 PM (QWpu1)

81 Trump trolled Adam Schiff today. Called him Little Allen Schitt.

How can you not love this man?

Posted by: ALH at November 18, 2018 10:15 PM (dczB+)

82
I didn't know Ringo Starr was a libertarian. The things you learn here.
Posted by: rickl


Maybe he doesn't like government because it doesn't do enough?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 10:15 PM (aKsyK)

83 Well here is a happy note. Maine coon kitteh is ensconsed next to dragon wife, who has drifted off to sleep with Ipad in hand. They are both well loved.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:16 PM (T3zWB)

84 Maher makes me happy I don't watch television. The only reason I know his name is because I read it here.
My life is better for not knowing Maher.

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at November 18, 2018 10:17 PM (nBr1j)

85 83 Well here is a happy note. Maine coon kitteh is ensconsed next to dragon wife, who has drifted off to sleep with Ipad in hand. They are both well loved.
Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:16 PM (T3zWB)

Cute. I have a Maine Coon cat, she's a bit skittish, but very sweet.

On the flip side, she sheds like crazy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:17 PM (GBteo)

86 Well here is a happy note. Maine coon kitteh is ensconsed next to dragon wife, who has drifted off to sleep with Ipad in hand. They are both well loved.
Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:16 PM (T3zWB)


D'awww

:3

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:17 PM (t+qrx)

87 Bill Maher - is he supposed to be funny?

Stan Lee was funny.

Here's Stan's last video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB688EBY-LM
&list=PLG3_B3t82rnJeUcpVgMw892igcQBdHosU

(The 2nd line is not required, but takes you to the latest Other People's Videos playlist du jour.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - thwwiippp at November 18, 2018 10:18 PM (n3Kee)

88
Does Max Boot also applaud Swallwell's threat to nuke Americans? Probably.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:18 PM (LsBY9)

89 Last time I saw Ringo, he was a caveman.

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 10:19 PM (RuIsu)

90 Maine Coons are TIGHT!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:19 PM (l9m7l)

91
RIP Malcolm Young.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2018 10:20 PM (LkFnL)

92 5 Hey! Ringo's a Moron!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (HJhxx)
----------------------------
He favored Brexit too!


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 10:21 PM (Rxduq)

93 Hey, anybody seen platypus lately?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:21 PM (t+qrx)

94 71 LadyL

Hey Big Sis!

78 MisHum

It was such a fun time!! It appears that my Baby Sis woulda been a true 'Etta,
!

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:22 PM (vUcdz)

95 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at November 18, 2018 10:22 PM (JFzNN)

96 Video of the party balloon exploding - scary $#!+

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=Y0lq_1542492480

Posted by: mindful webworker - partying heartily at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (n3Kee)

97 51.57 Are you kidding me? Ocasio Cortez has called for a civil war within the Democrat Party and she isn't even inaugurated yet. She will be marginalized at best unless you can come up with a Freak Show caucus.

Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (uVK9r)

98 Hey, anybody seen platypus lately?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:21 PM (t+qrx)

-----------------

Now that you brought it up, no. Sucks when people just go silent.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (ffYR/)

99 This is how your betters slobber over their desired Overlords.
---
Swalwell and his party are the reason America's Founders intended the citizenry to possess military grade weaponry.

Posted by: Methos at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (kOpft)

100 The gas prices in France.

All the taxes from gas go to pay pensions for transit workers (bus drivers, the railroad, etc) that sort of work for the government.

So all things considered, more people that get to retire at 55 or so want their pensions, and the rest of the country has to pay for them with higher gas prices, even though (actually) oil prices are falling worldwide.

Good call Macron. Good call.

Posted by: shibumi's friend, Bozo in the Mitten Kingdom at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (z1Dz9)

101 Mr. Bassman and I are spending tonight in Albuquerque. Are there Albuquerque morons who might want to meet us for breakfast tomorrow? We're thinking of going to Breakfast Club.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (SsXuM)

102 94 moi

Ummm... 'Ette.

Thanks autocucumber!!!!

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:24 PM (vUcdz)

103 94 71 LadyL

Hey Big Sis!

78 MisHum

It was such a fun time!! It appears that my Baby Sis woulda been a true 'Etta,
!
Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:22 PM (vUcdz)


Ibguy--it was such a lovely tribute to Joyce. I was honored to have been included.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 18, 2018 10:24 PM (TdMsT)

104 All hail the Horde hive mind!
Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM
~~~~~

Posted by: IrishEi at November 18, 2018 10:24 PM (NtglE)

105 France? Just like California.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:25 PM (3HNOQ)

106
I ain't spending my life here... I ain't livin' alone... ain't breakin' no rocks on the chain gang... I'm breakin' out and heading home.

Posted by: otho at November 18, 2018 10:25 PM (LkFnL)

107
On the flip side, she sheds like crazy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:17 PM (GBteo)

......

Yup, honeywell air cleaners and brush OUTSIDE. Gawd, danderish and the fur is like a bad Dr Who episode where you get swarmed. But he is also very comedic. Tied for best life kitteh.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:26 PM (T3zWB)

108 Now that you brought it up, no. Sucks when people just go silent.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (ffYR/)


It wouldn't be the first time she's gotten distracted and wandered off for a week or so, but yeah... I don't recall her around last weekend either.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:26 PM (t+qrx)

109 ...Does Max Boot also applaud Swallwell's threat to nuke Americans? Probably.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:18 PM (LsBY9)



He sure as hell did.

Y'know, sometimes I envy you folks who live 'round D.C., California, NYC, Portlandia, etc.

Such target rich environments!

envy/off!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 10:26 PM (QzJWU)

110 57 I'm taking bets on how long it's going to take for Washington DC to chew up Ocasio Cortez and spit her out..
Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (uVK9r)

No, she will be swaddled in bubble wrap. She's too valuable once she's sworn in"inaugurated". As long as she learns to play nice, she will spend the next 60 years with the Party hand up her ass as a golden sockpuppet.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:08 PM (t+qrx)


You better get used to seeing her face and hearing her voice. She is America's future.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:27 PM (sdi6R)

111 Just remembered that 30 years ago today I graduated from Navy OCS, Newport R.I.

Time has flown.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 10:27 PM (2eKoI)

112 Hi BC. Dragon waves.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:28 PM (T3zWB)

113 Hi Smaug. Um, chasm waves? Yeah, chasm waves!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:29 PM (l9m7l)

114 steak on,' tater baked, cheese and butter room temp!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 10:29 PM (Dagiw)

115 TANUGGYI, Myanmar -- A hot air balloon packed with pyrotechnics exploded over a crowd during a popular festival in Myanmar, sending revelers running for cover.

Never happened when it was Burma.

Posted by: Uncle Lt. Col. Miklos, 1st Punjabi Lancers (ret.) at November 18, 2018 10:29 PM (zCyNd)

116 Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (uVK9r)

We agree to disagree

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 10:29 PM (aA3+G)

117 President Trump tweeted out that he is willing to Garner Republican votes to get Pelosi inaugurated as Speaker of the House.Ocasio Cortez has put out a call to arms against all establishment Democrats. She is in la-la land if she thinks she can gain any momentum against the lights of Pelosi's gang and the CBC.

Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:30 PM (uVK9r)

118 Myanmar's problem is it had great brand capital as Burma. Now, who's ever heard of Myanmar?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (HJhxx)

And "Myanmarshave" didn't fit on the little signs.

I remember seeing actual BurmaShave signs, in the wild, as it were.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:30 PM (fDU8w)

119 I'm going to be very disappointed if Brenda "Weasely" Snipes gets away with just a resignation.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:30 PM (vOkuK)

120 I do not understand the gun-grabbers preoccupation with 'pistol grips', but then, why should I?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 10:30 PM (1+J19)

121 118; as do i.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 10:31 PM (KP5rU)

122 116 sure thing pass the popcorn

Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:31 PM (uVK9r)

123 > Now, who's ever heard of Myanmar?

Same people who've heard of "Mumbai" or the "Willis Tower".

No one.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:31 PM (vOkuK)

124 Burma Shave.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (3HNOQ)

125 > I do not understand the gun-grabbers preoccupation with 'pistol grips', but then, why should I?

These are the same people who think coloring a rifle black makes it more deadly.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (vOkuK)

126 Yeah, chasm waves!

BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:29 PM (l9m7l)

......

Well that's just fun. Love you perking up. Love yourself.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (T3zWB)

127 I'm going to be very disappointed if Brenda "Weasely" Snipes gets away with just a resignation.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
--------------
Bwahahahaha.

You just don't get it, do you?

Posted by: Lois Lerner at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (1+J19)

128 You better get used to seeing her face and hearing her voice. She is America's future.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:27 PM (sdi6R)

--------------

Back in the bad old days pre PDT, I was almost certain this was the case. Now, not so sure anymore.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (ffYR/)

129 Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (vUcdz)

z"l

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (EZebt)

130 "Everything government touches turns to crap." Ringo Starr




Ringo for the win

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (SiINZ)

131 Hi BC. Dragon waves.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:28 PM (T3zWB)

---
is that anything like Dragon Energy?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (Dagiw)

132 What's happening, 'rons and 'ettes?

I hope your week has gone well.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (rJUlF)

133 I am old enough to remember when Bejing was Peking.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (3HNOQ)

134 And "Myanmarshave" didn't fit on the little signs.



I remember seeing actual BurmaShave signs, in the wild, as it were.
---
I don't think I saw them, but my grandparents had a book documenting all the ads.

Posted by: Methos at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (kOpft)

135 There are still some Burma Shave signs on Route 66.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 10:35 PM (mGxqO)

136 Such a sweet story, ibguy!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 10:35 PM (Rxduq)

137 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242361105096705

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242446413021185

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242535885938693

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242633671888898

Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2018 10:35 PM (0Ntuf)

138 I am old enough to remember when Bejing was Peking.

Posted by: JAS at N




would guess being in pekig during the opium wars would have an impact on you.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 10:35 PM (MTjB1)

139 Hello Cap'n Whitebread. How did your week go?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (pHzbJ)

140 I am old enough to remember when Bejing was Peking.



Posted by: JAS
----And Pluto was a planet?
And gay meant happy?And fag was a cigarette?
And you could smoke at work?

Damn, I just bummed myself out.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (9rIkM)

141
is that anything like Dragon Energy?
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (Dagiw)

.....


Well it all is here (other than drooly dooling trolls).

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (T3zWB)

142 "Low comment volume ."

Even Stakhanov took time off.

Whether he wanted to or not.

Posted by: Minimally productive Miklos at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (zCyNd)

143 Oil is 51 bucks a barrel and the Europeans have taxed it so much the people are rioting. Good grief.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (gNCcC)

And it is about $26 per barrel here in Alberta, because we lack the pipeline capacity to get it to market, thanks to treehuggers and commie politicians.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (fDU8w)

144 > You just don't get it, do you?
> Posted by: Lois Lerner

That was when Eric Holder was running DoJ.

If Sessionzzz were still in charge, I'd agree with you, but I'm cautiously optimistic that the new AG (whoever it turns out being) will actually enforce the law.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (vOkuK)

145 I am old enough to remember when Bejing was Peking.


Pfft. I remember back when Germany was the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (HJhxx)

146 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242723862061056

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242812512813056

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242894226276353

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064242973850943488

Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (0Ntuf)

147 Ringo for the win

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (SiINZ)

---
it is the accepted wisdom at our house that Ringo is the happiest and most successful Beatle, if only because he never got the big head, and just lives life to the fullest, without getting full of himself.

he strikes me as a great guy to have a beer with and shoot the shit. down to earth, and low on arrogance. he got luck and he knows it.

"Sir" Paul, OTOH, strikes me as an arrogant asshole, and his music is for shit, unless he lucks into w*rking with someone who has more talent than he does. he also got lucky, but won't admit it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (Dagiw)

148
Ringo for the win

Posted by: TheQuietMan


John Lennon: Yoko Ono

Ringo Starr: Barbara Bach

Nuff sed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (LsBY9)

149 128 You better get used to seeing her face and hearing her voice. She is America's future.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:27 PM (sdi6R)

--------------

Back in the bad old days pre PDT, I was almost certain this was the case. Now, not so sure anymore.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (ffYR/)


This last election makes me think that Trump is just a speedbump on the road to socialism.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (sdi6R)

150 Oh my God somebody hand ocasio-cortez a copy of How to Win Friends and Influence People stat https://tinyurl.com/ycgkxqju

Posted by: sOME mORON at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (uVK9r)

151 Pluto was a Disney dog. Turned out be only a "planetoid".

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (3HNOQ)

152 129 San Fran

Todah rabbah

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (vUcdz)

153 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064243064917643265

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064243168105897994

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064243268492423168

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1064243378358022146

Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (0Ntuf)

154 at the Unite The Right Rally. People who were simply defending
themselves are going to jail. The people who attacked them were being
let off.
***

This is one of the real problems we face.
Everyone is familiar with "their violence is free speech, our free speech is violence"...but the left is now treating this as the law.

As a point to consider...if a black nationalist rally had ended with Neo-Nazis attacking them, with the implicit approval of the local mayor, wouldn't that mayor be in jail right now?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (+DkQm)

155 Or deulling trolls

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (T3zWB)

156 147: agreed. paul is the consumate asshole.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (KP5rU)

157 I am old enough to remember when Bejing was Peking.

Posted by: JAS
-------------

I still call Sri Lanka 'Ceylon', and Thailand 'Siam'.

I enjoy the offense it gives in some quarters.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (CDGwz)

158 136 Margarita

Thank you, ma'am.

Was a lot of fun.

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (vUcdz)

159 I'm old enough to remember when I could tell fellow students campus that I was an intern for the Senate Republicans, and they said, "cool, man."

Posted by: Ladyl at November 18, 2018 10:39 PM (TdMsT)

160 I remember when "Happy Holidays" was "Blessed Feast of the Nativity of our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ."

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 10:39 PM (3HNOQ)

161 You guys and gals are the best. I hope you're not too upset when the inevitable happens.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:39 PM (l9m7l)

162
I still call Leningrad "St. Petersburg". Oh, wait...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:40 PM (LsBY9)

163
And it is about $26 per barrel here in Alberta, because we lack the pipeline capacity to get it to market, thanks to treehuggers and commie politicians.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:36 PM (fDU8w)

.....

More inclined to first blame Globalist Fucktard Oligarchs who hire the jackwads to protest.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:40 PM (T3zWB)

164 And who's ever heard of "Czechia"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 10:40 PM (HJhxx)

165 You guys and gals are the best. I hope you're not too upset when the inevitable happens.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:39 PM (l9m7l)


Prostate cancer?
Hemorrhoids?
Canine hip dysplasia?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 10:42 PM (HJhxx)

166
And who's ever heard of "Czechia"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


Still Bohemia and Moravia to me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:42 PM (LsBY9)

167 I still call Cesar Chavez Blvd, Army St.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 10:42 PM (EZebt)

168 161 You guys and gals are the best. I hope you're not too upset when the inevitable happens.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:39 PM (l9m7l)

.......

BC that's effed. If I interpret you correctly than call for help.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:42 PM (T3zWB)

169 I'm only 29, so I'm not quite old enough to remember when Istanbul was Constantinople.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:42 PM (sdi6R)

170 117. Brilliant move by Trump. Endorse pelosi, which discredits her with dem base. Pass the popcorn

Posted by: Jonah at November 18, 2018 10:43 PM (7T5tR)

171 I'm only 29, so I'm not quite old enough to remember when Istanbul was Constantinople.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:42 PM (sdi6R)


I'll bet Vic remembers when it was Byzantium.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 10:43 PM (HJhxx)

172 does chevy now just market vehicles to hipster phucktards? earth to chevy...... those asswipes don't buy vehicles. gm should have been allowed to just fade away.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

173 Saudi Arabia should've had the good sense to use a drone for their extrajudicial killing.

They could've been up for a Nobel Peace Prize that way.

Posted by: Sjg at November 18, 2018 10:44 PM (gDSJf)

174 There's no such place as Vienna or Naples or Moscow or Munich either. If you create the place, you should get to name it and if someone comes along and calls it something else, tough titty for them. Just pretend you don't know what they're talking about when they ask for directions.

I make an exception for Burma/Myanmar because the people who run the place are shitheads and shouldn't be allowed to name their own pets.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:44 PM (t+qrx)

175 A crook named Snipes
Tried voting swipes.
Soon may these types
Start wearing stripes.

Burma Shave!


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:44 PM (vOkuK)

176 56 Baby Sister Update: Birthday edition

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM (vUcdz)

I always looked forward to reading your updates and your sister's attempt to not just survive the disease, but to enjoy life. Her example provided inspiration for me, since the first time I really noticed them was shortly after my diagnosis. I am happy to see that you are still celebrating her life.

Posted by: half a mind at November 18, 2018 10:44 PM (np68J)

177 Bill Nelson upset tonight. Tweets that he will now have to pay for his adult diapers, out of pocket. POS

Posted by: Jonah at November 18, 2018 10:45 PM (7T5tR)

178 Brilliant move by Trump. Endorse pelosi, which discredits her with dem base. Pass the popcorn

Jonah at November 18, 2018 10:43 PM (7T5tR)

.......

Wish he was 20 years younger. Make him benevolent till senile.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:45 PM (T3zWB)

179 Selective Law Enforcement. We own it.

Posted by: Dems at November 18, 2018 10:45 PM (NpvYf)

180 As a point to consider...if a black nationalist rally had ended with Neo-Nazis attacking them, with the implicit approval of the local mayor, wouldn't that mayor be in jail right now?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (+DkQm)

------

I would hope so.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 10:45 PM (55Mek)

181 125 > I do not understand the gun-grabbers preoccupation with 'pistol grips', but then, why should I?

These are the same people who think coloring a rifle black makes it more deadly.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:32 PM (vOkuK)

Yeah, it's just about the talking points. The goal is, and always has been, complete ban of civilian ownership of firearms. They try to use silly catch phrases to scare LIVs and give their NPC's talking points.

"semi-automatic" "pistol grip" "assault-style" "high capacity" etc. etc.

The media uses one or more of those phrases in every single negative story about guns to reinforce their point.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:46 PM (GBteo)

182 > There's no such place as Vienna or Naples or Moscow or Munich either.

I've never heard of an Austrian getting pissy about people who still calling Vienna.

I haven't seen English people getting pissy about the French calling it Londres, either.

Nor even Americans getting pissy about the Mexicans calling our country Los Estados Unidos.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:47 PM (vOkuK)

183 I do not understand the gun-grabbers preoccupation with 'pistol grips', but then, why should I?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 10:30 PM (1+J19)

Perhaps they think it enables you to shoot a rifle one-handed, therefore you shoot two at once?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:48 PM (fDU8w)

184 Nor even Americans getting pissy about the Mexicans calling our country Los Estados Unidos.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:47 PM (vOkuK)

Norte Americano, amigo!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 10:48 PM (GBteo)

185 Sharkman,
I did as well. 2nd Batt.
Goglia

Posted by: NavyLurker at November 18, 2018 10:49 PM (/tdLl)

186 > I'm only 29, so I'm not quite old enough to remember when Istanbul was Constantinople.

Good point. Does hogmartin think we should force the Turks to change it back to Constantinople, or Byzantium?

The Greeks built it, and gave it those names. Istanbul is a name given to it by the Turkish conquerors.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:50 PM (vOkuK)

187
When Hollywood stops making movies with gun violence, I'll know the Democrats are serious about gun violence.

Most gun violence in the US is Democrats shooting Democrats.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:50 PM (LsBY9)

188 PaleRider,

Pretty well. Work was uneventful (i.e., no griping from the usual negative nabobs), I started sound and light work for the community theatre's christmas play, and got to meet so new folks at a karaoke bar in the city.

Only downside is having to buy some new tires this week. But I'm not worried.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 18, 2018 10:50 PM (rJUlF)

189 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 18, 2018 10:33 PM (rJUlF)

Good to see you, CW.

Posted by: tbodie at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (OZZ16)

190 now just market vehicles to hipster phucktards? earth to chevy...... those asswipes don't buy vehicles. gm should have been allowed to just fade away.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at N



well, they have decided to start marketing their full size pickups to women.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (MTjB1)

191 I don't expect to ever have semi-automatic weapons.

I just wonder at this point how I can convince my father to give me the guns he bought for me when I was young back.

It's only a .22 Revolver and a .243 Hunting Rifle, but I'd still like to have them back.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (pgXNG)

192 I'd never dream of making the Turks call Instanbul something else. Murdering the Turks and renaming Instabul on the other hand . . .

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (H5knJ)

193 There's nothing to worry about so cease worrying. But you have my thanks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (l9m7l)

194 I seem to recall a Horde member being from Albuquerque, but I do not recall who it was.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (55Mek)

195 Most gun violence in the US is Democrats shooting Democrats.

This is a better point than arguing the niceties of which caliber goes with which semi-automatic.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 10:52 PM (lK7fO)

196 190: noticed that. brilliant.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 10:52 PM (KP5rU)

197 Oh, and MisHum once again pulls a brilliant content rabbit out if that magic hat of his.

Huzzah!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 09:53 PM (HJhxx)



https://youtu.be/voo60HArCnU

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 10:52 PM (mUa7G)

198 Chavez, well what is Chevy going to do? Appeal to patriots? Good luck with that after the bailout, screwing bondholders to give stock to the UAW, targeting dealerships that had donated to R candidates etc. I swore off them back then. If Ford for pickups and Honda,Toyota, VW etc for cars for me. I buy used cars but I'm not buying factory parts from GM.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM (pHzbJ)

199 I'm in a frustrating position when it comes to cars.

I need a new car. I've had my current one for 10 years.

But it only has 69,000 miles on it, and any other car with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM (pgXNG)

200
I'd never dream of making the Turks call Instanbul something else.

West Yerevan.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM (LsBY9)

201 "West Yerevan."

make the Dardanelles Phrygian again

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 10:54 PM (k+6VI)

202 More inclined to first blame Globalist Fucktard Oligarchs who hire the jackwads to protest.
Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:40 PM (T3zWB)

Well, yeah. But they are sort of included under "commie politicians". Soros may not be in public office, but his puppets are.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:55 PM (fDU8w)

203 understand the gun-grabbers preoccupation with 'pistol grips', but then, why should I?

These are the same people who think coloring a rifle black makes it more deadly.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at N



when we were in ny I called a gunshop outside the city to inquire about buying a benelli with a pistol grip, he nearly freaked out. not worried with selling the plain old benelli but the second I inquired about the pistol grip, he lost it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 10:55 PM (MTjB1)

204 If you create the place, you should get to name it and if someone comes along and calls it something else, tough titty for them.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:44 PM (t+qrx)

Nope.

The people who speak a language get to decide what they want to call you and your country when they speak their language. Maybe they'll adopt what you call it, maybe they won't.

Posted by: Sjg at November 18, 2018 10:55 PM (gDSJf)

205 198: my last gm product was a 2007 saturn. i'll never buy another gm vehicle of any kind.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 10:55 PM (KP5rU)

206 Pelosi machine raised all that dark money for House Seats.

She gets dumped and they lose the brick and mortar that united the dem front

Posted by: Jonah at November 18, 2018 10:56 PM (7T5tR)

207 ...I seem to recall a Horde member being from Albuquerque, but I do not recall who it was.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 10:51 PM (55Mek)


Always a slick dressed smartass, usually wearing an ensemble of grey n' white. Big ears, enamored of carrots?

He had an epiphany that he should've taken a right turn, there, Doc.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 10:56 PM (QzJWU)

208
But it only has 69,000 miles on it, and any other car with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM

.....

I got a chevy silverado 2003 w over 300k. Just keep you auto. Save the newcarbill.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:56 PM (T3zWB)

209 186 > I'm only 29, so I'm not quite old enough to remember when Istanbul was Constantinople.

Good point. Does hogmartin think we should force the Turks to change it back to Constantinople, or Byzantium?

The Greeks built it, and gave it those names. Istanbul is a name given to it by the Turkish conquerors.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:50 PM (vOkuK)


This might be a case where it may be better to leave it to the Russians to sort out.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:57 PM (sdi6R)

210 The Horde knowledge of world geography (current & ancient) is impressive.

Posted by: tbodie at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (OZZ16)

211 I need a new car. I've had my current one for 10 years.

But it only has 69,000 miles on it, and any other car with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM (pgXNG)

--------------------

May I ask why you feel that you need a new one? That car should go another 100k miles easily, unless it has issues already.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (ffYR/)

212 I've never heard of an Austrian getting pissy about people who still calling Vienna.

I haven't seen English people getting pissy about the French calling it Londres, either.

Nor even Americans getting pissy about the Mexicans calling our country Los Estados Unidos.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:47 PM (vOkuK)


I didn't hear anyone getting pissy about anything. If the people who live somewhere want to change what it's called, I don't care, they can change it. They live there. The few times a year I care what it's called, I can either remember it or look it up or call it by the old name. Whatever someone who doesn't speak their language decided it sounded like a couple hundred years ago isn't inherently a more valid name just because it's what I grew up calling it.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (t+qrx)

213 Big ears, enamored of carrots?

I thought B. Cochran was from Florida?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (DMUuz)

214 Saudi Arabia should've had the good sense to use a drone for their extrajudicial killing.

They could've been up for a Nobel Peace Prize that way.
Posted by: Sjg at November 18, 2018 10:44 PM (gDSJf)

That article was typical Marxist crap. Khashoggi needed killing. They made a messy job of it, but he was one of theirs. Ain't no right to due process in the magic kingdom.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (fDU8w)

215 An original Burma Shave jingle from a site I just found on the web:

With glamour girls
You'll never click
Bewhiskered
Like a
Bolshevik

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (vOkuK)

216 208 I got a chevy silverado 2003 w over 300k. Just keep you auto. Save the newcarbill.
Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:56 PM (T3zWB)

My grandfather has started bugging me to buy a new car.

I don't have as much money in my savings as he expects me to have, though.

Maybe going into next January, I have enough to buy a new car with cash, but I really don't want to do it...

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (pgXNG)

217 199 I'm in a frustrating position when it comes to cars.

I need a new car. I've had my current one for 10 years.

But it only has 69,000 miles on it, and any other car with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM (pgXNG)

Why do you need a new one then?
I drive a 2008 with 125,000 miles on it. Works fine.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (Rz2Nc)

218 211 May I ask why you feel that you need a new one? That car should go another 100k miles easily, unless it has issues already.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (ffYR/)

Because my grandfather is riding my ass about it.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:59 PM (pgXNG)

219 > This might be a case where it may be better to leave it to the Russians to sort out.

Or maybe a joint commission of Armenians, Greeks, and Serbs.


That would work out well, I'm sure.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:59 PM (vOkuK)

220 >>Most gun violence in the US is Democrats shooting Democrats.


Felons wiping out felons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 11:00 PM (aA3+G)

221 next time the Saudis want to disappear some Ikhwan terror propagandist they should use a human sized cuisinart. obviously carving them by hand takes too long

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 11:00 PM (k+6VI)

222 217 Why do you need a new one then?
I drive a 2008 with 125,000 miles on it. Works fine.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 10:58 PM (Rz2Nc)

I'm driving a 2009 Nissan Versa that I paid for straight up in cash.

Well, I didn't exactly.

My grandfather gifted me a $17,000 dividend check that I used to buy it, heh. He told me to buy a car with it.

But yeah, he wants to know why I'm still driving the same car after 10 years.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:01 PM (pgXNG)

223 Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:59 PM (pgXNG)


Hey Gramps you buy me a new one

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 11:01 PM (aA3+G)

224 Felons wiping out felons
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at N


lol, they are most worried about the fact that every shooting costs them two votes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:01 PM (MTjB1)

225
Always a slick dressed smartass

Every girl's crazy 'bout a slick dressed smartass.

Posted by: Zed Zed Toppp at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (aKsyK)

226
Well, yeah. But they are sort of included under "commie politicians". Soros may not be in public office, but his puppets are.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:55 PM (fDU8w)

.....

Agree. Hate that nazi war criminal POS. How he keeps breathing? Why Israel has not extradited based on Steve Kroft interview? But Soros POS is only one of hundreds of globalist oligarchs who wish us dead.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (T3zWB)

227 223 Hey Gramps you buy me a new one
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 11:01 PM (aA3+G)

That's not going to happen.

He wiped out most of what he had left taking care of his wife when she got sick.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (pgXNG)

228 Top picture makes it all worthwhile in this crazy world.

Posted by: Summer of Love at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (FJrl0)

229 > lol, they are most worried about the fact that every shooting costs them two votes.

Only one in Florida, though, thanks to that new law.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (vOkuK)

230 Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 11:00 PM (k+6VI)

Lol

They might want to consider the following phrase as well, location, location, location

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 11:03 PM (aA3+G)

231 The Russian pronunciation of their capital is Moskva; we call it Moscow. I guess I don't see why the two need to align.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 11:03 PM (H5knJ)

232 But it only has 69,000 miles on it, and any other car with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM

.....

I got a chevy silverado 2003 w over 300k. Just keep you auto. Save the newcarbill.
Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 10:56 PM (T3zWB)

Yeah, I'm currently rocking an '09 civic with 209,xxx on it.

I'll be excited to upgrade, for sure, as I've had it since new and am looking for something better, but I'm saving money to buy something newer and less practical for cash.

The Civic runs fine, I'm just bored with it ha.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (GBteo)

233 Only one in Florida, though, thanks to that new law.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at N




well, they have to do their tie first so that could take them out of the election for one or two congressional elections.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (MTjB1)

234 > Why Israel has not extradited based on Steve Kroft interview?

Nah, Israel is too soft on criminals.

Extradite him to Malaysia, where they have laws with teeth.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (vOkuK)

235 But it only has 69,000 miles on it, and any other car with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:53 PM (pgXNG)

Why do you "need" a new car? If it's ten years old, and has only 69,000 miles on it, it's practically a new car. My newest vehicle is an '08 Suburban with about 240,000 km on it = 145,000 miles. These things now typically run to over 400,000 km now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (fDU8w)

236 Beg to differ on who and when powder monkeys were created.

Can't say for sure off hand exactly when the job was created but it was created by the NAVY. The British Navy.

The young were used because they could speed up and down the low ceilinged decks and in the magazine more easily than a full grown man or even teenager. Many or most powder magazines had thick wet felt cloths placed over small openings into the magazine where the Gunner mates put together the charges for the guns to prevent fire and explosions from setting off the powder. These charges were handed to the powder monkeys who scampered through the curtains and the short doors and up to their respective guns.

This was probably also used in forts and such but they could protect the magazine better as they had only a few directions to be concerned about incoming.

Most apprentices jobs aboard naval vessels were how the training of new sailors was done as it took years to impart all the knowledge of a master.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (D+X8V)

237 I think Alexandra Ocasio- Cortez is stupid. I don't mean just because of her politics. (I give her some slack on that. Many young people are indoctrinated or ill informed. However, her social skills seems to be underdeveloped. Even if the press treats her as a rising young star of progressivism and she laps it up, I would think that it might have occurred to her that coming to DC for the first time it's probably not a good idea to piss off Nancy Pelosi who still welds a lot of power.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (AllCR)

238 That's not going to happen.

He wiped out most of what he had left taking care of his wife when she got sick.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (pgXNG)


Still not seeing how he has any say in what you drive here.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 11:05 PM (t+qrx)

239 I'm driving a 2009 Nissan Versa that I paid for straight up in cash.

Well, I didn't exactly.

My grandfather gifted me a $17,000 dividend check that I used to buy it, heh. He told me to buy a car with it.

But yeah, he wants to know why I'm still driving the same car after 10 years.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:01 PM (pgXNG)

Tell him it makes the best financial sense.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 11:05 PM (Rz2Nc)

240 > The Russian pronunciation of their capital is Moskva; we call it Moscow. I guess I don't see why the two need to align.

We should start calling it Muscovy again, just to change things up.

Also: we should go back to calling the Middle East Outremer.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:06 PM (vOkuK)

241 Yes; MisHum always picks the nicest photos.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:06 PM (AllCR)

242 with only 69,000 miles on it is going to cost more than the value I'll get from what I've got now (When I bought the car, it had 30 miles on it).
Posted by: Hikaru
0



richard pryor had some advice for your gramps




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYfenUt0u9A

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:06 PM (MTjB1)

243 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (AllCR)

Don't you remember what it was to be 28? It was only a year ago


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

244 232 I'll be excited to upgrade, for sure, as I've had it since new and am looking for something better, but I'm saving money to buy something newer and less practical for cash.

The Civic runs fine, I'm just bored with it ha.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:04 PM (GBteo)

I've never had a Honda.

I've had 5 cars so far.

Can't name the make/models without tripping the spam filter, but here are the years.

-1991
-1994
-1992
-1995
-2009

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:07 PM (pgXNG)

245 when we were in ny I called a gunshop outside the city to inquire about buying a benelli with a pistol grip, he nearly freaked out. not worried with selling the plain old benelli but the second I inquired about the pistol grip, he lost it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 10:55 PM (MTjB1)

-------------

This sounds like my brother, lifelong Chicagoan. Several years ago, I told him I had bought an AK-47. He flipped his shit. I asked him to describe what that rifle was and did. I got every Libtard talking point in the book recited to me. I just told him the only thing he said that was accurate was that they had higher capacity mags than sone rifles.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 11:07 PM (ffYR/)

246 238 Still not seeing how he has any say in what you drive here.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 11:05 PM (t+qrx)

He wants me to spend money that I don't have.

And he expects me to do it because of seniority.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (pgXNG)

247 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2018 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

LOL. I'm so tired it seems much longer than that

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (AllCR)

248
These charges were handed to the powder monkeys who scampered through the curtains and the short doors and up to their respective guns.

"Look at that little monkey run!" - Adm. the Hon. Sir Howard Cosell, KCB, DSO

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (LsBY9)

249 Because my grandfather is riding my ass about it.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:59 PM (pgXNG)

Tell him if he wants to give you a new car, you will take it, but that you have better plans for your money than sending a car salesman to Mazatlan for 2 weeks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (fDU8w)

250 wife and i both drove strictly gm products. now, both of us drive nissans.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (KP5rU)

251 I put 100k on mine. a lot of that was from driving to Houston and back. otherwise I don't drive much except to commute

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (k+6VI)

252
He wants me to spend money that I don't have.

And he expects me to do it because of seniority.
Posted by: Hikaru


???????????????

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (aKsyK)

253 Who is Max Boot and why should I care?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (nBr1j)

254 Some would say that space aliens travel thousands and thousands of miles, maybe even light-years, and to do what?

Insert probes into our sensitive no-no orifices? I need something MOAR!

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 11:09 PM (Z9C5C)

255 I've never had a Honda.

I've had 5 cars so far.

Can't name the make/models without tripping the spam filter, but here are the years.

-1991
-1994
-1992
-1995
-2009
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:07 PM (pgXNG)

This is my first Honda. Previously I had a Ford truck, a Dodge truck, and an Infiniti sedan.

The trucks were more fun, but had way more problems. The Ford lasted much longer, the Dodge barely limped to 100,000 miles.

My infiniti had 305,000 when I donated it (it was all rusted to shit. New England winters and all.)

I have nothing but good things to say about Japanese cars. Well, except they're not as much fun or as cool to drive. But overall... amazing value.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:09 PM (GBteo)

256 Good night brilliant Hordians. And again a hat doff to MisHum. That pic was amazing.

Posted by: Smaug at November 18, 2018 11:09 PM (T3zWB)

257 249 Because my grandfather is riding my ass about it.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 10:59 PM (pgXNG)

Tell him if he wants to give you a new car, you will take it, but that you have better plans for your money than sending a car salesman to Mazatlan for 2 weeks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (fDU8w)

He's 90.

If he wants me to get a brand new car that bad, it's going to have to wait until he's dead.

And I don't want him dead any time soon.

My family may not like me much, but I can't really imagine them not being around.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:09 PM (pgXNG)

258 lol, they are most worried about the fact that every shooting costs them two votes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:01 PM (MTjB1)

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Do you think that a little thing like death is going to keep them away from the polls?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:09 PM (HJhxx)

259 I did as well. 2nd Batt.
Goglia

Posted by: NavyLurker


Forgot our Company LT's name. He was a tiny fireplug of a guy who took us on "Jungle Runs" periodically - Run 5 miles stopping each mile to do a hundred push-ups and a hundred sit-ups. Our Chief was Chief Francis. He was stereotypically awesome. I was Oscar Company.

I seem to recall the correct answer to the piloting final exam was running aground. At least that's what I did and still scored an A.

Good, good times.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 11:10 PM (2eKoI)

260 Hikarua, well you are a grownup now. If you want to trade up in car to a 2-4 year old car, maybe one bigger than a Versa do it because you want a nicer car, not to impress gramps or the neighbors.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (pHzbJ)

261 Is your grandfather Japanese, Hikaru?

The parents and grands (especially the Obashans) of my Japanese friends are very concerned with appearances.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (90KoH)

262 Max Boot wrote a book about Vietnam and somehow got billed as this big Murrkan patriot conservative.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (k+6VI)

263 Real "adulting" includes not using nouns as made-up verbs.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (m45I2)

264 255 I have nothing but good things to say about Japanese cars. Well, except they're not as much fun or as cool to drive. But overall... amazing value.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:09 PM (GBteo)

Let's try this. I had a Chevy, a Ford, a Toyota, another Chevy (SUV), and a Nissan.

The Toyota was probably the most fun to drive, but it sucked the most in winter.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (pgXNG)

265 Oddly, I have no specific recollection of when I was 28. Moreover, I'm not going to try to remember. Pretty sure I was busy being irresponsible.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (Ibwur)

266 Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (nBr1j)

OT-How was the mission assignment?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:12 PM (AllCR)

267 He wants me to spend money that I don't have.

And he expects me to do it because of seniority.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:08 PM (pgXNG)


Well I don't want you to buy a new car that you can't afford, and I'm the King of Spain.

Problem solved.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 11:12 PM (t+qrx)

268 He wiped out most of what he had left taking care of his wife when she got sick.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:02 PM (pgXNG)

Tell him he should be proud of you for being thrifty, and making that car last for ten years, and that it is still going strong. And remind him that the depreciation it incurs, rolling off the lot is the largest single expense in a car's lifetime.

You are not making loan payments, not paying interest, and probably pay much less for insurance than you would for new car. You are in an enviable position.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:12 PM (fDU8w)

269 At present, my ride is a 2000 Ford F-150 XLT. 4.2 V-6, automatic.

Sitting at 123,000 miles, it's got a lot of life left in it. Sure, it's ugly as sin and rough as a cob.

But run it does.

Can't see a reason to make a change, at least not for now.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 11:13 PM (QzJWU)

270 Your grandpa is obviously not Dave Ramsey.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 11:13 PM (aKsyK)

271 My first new car was a Honda Civic, but that was back when they were still horse-drawn.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:13 PM (HJhxx)

272 Is Max B the Ferris Bueller of the left?

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (RuIsu)

273 268 You are not making loan payments, not paying interest, and probably pay much less for insurance than you would for new car. You are in an enviable position.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:12 PM (fDU8w)

My insurance is actually ridiculously expensive, mostly for being black.

A cousin of mine (white lesbian) has totalled 3 cars, and she still pays less than half what I do.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (pgXNG)

274 MSM is finally paying a bit of attention to the unrest in Haiti, at least the Miami Herald is.

Most of them are studiously ignoring it, which I'm sure has NOTHING AT ALL with the protestors being convinced that their "president" has siphoned off billions in earthquake relief money, in collusion with the Clintons.


Their "president" did not travel to the Battle of Vertières commemoration ceremony in Cap-Haïtien today (contrary to long-standing tradition), opting instead to "lay a wreath" at a museum right across the square from his palace.

Rule of thumb: if a "president's" residence is referred to as a "palace", the country is almost certainly a shithole/

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (vOkuK)

275 Real "adulting" includes not using nouns as made-up verbs.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (m45I2)


Dude! Verbing is totally thinging, right?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (mUa7G)

276 if it was Honda, it was probably drawn by Japanese peasants.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 11:15 PM (k+6VI)

277 About older automobiles: I am still driving my mother's 1990 Mazda 323 5-speed. Great little car.

Posted by: Grannymimi at November 18, 2018 11:15 PM (u5LFV)

278 Do you think that a little thing like death is going to keep them away from the polls?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at N



lol. getting felon voting rights restored was silly. now they ae out committing more crimes and fucking things up by voting.

fl democrats would have been better of making having crack or weed capital offenses.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:16 PM (MTjB1)

279 157 I am old enough to remember when Bejing was Peking.

Posted by: JAS
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I still call Sri Lanka 'Ceylon', and Thailand 'Siam'.

I enjoy the offense it gives in some quarters.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 10:38 PM (CDGwz)

Burma.
Bombay.
Rhodesia.

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 11:16 PM (uBX7f)

280 > And remind him that the depreciation it incurs, rolling off the lot is the largest single expense in a car's lifetime.

Indeed. if Hikaru doesn't insist on driving a brand-new car (which he obviously doesn't), he'll save a lot of money by buying a year-old model.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:16 PM (vOkuK)

281 A Japanese car with 69,000 miles on it is barely broken in.

I bought a 1991 Toyota Corolla station wagon in 1999 with 85,000 miles on it, and kept it for 15 years. The only reason I got rid of it was because the rust was so bad it wouldn't pass inspection.

But that engine still ran like a champ. Hopefully someone pulled it out of the junkyard and is putting it to good use.

*sheds tear*

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 11:17 PM (sdi6R)

282 Let's try this. I had a Chevy, a Ford, a Toyota, another Chevy (SUV), and a Nissan.

The Toyota was probably the most fun to drive, but it sucked the most in winter.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:11 PM (pgXNG)

Eh, I've never had a problem with any cars in the winter. But again -- New England.

You kind of just get used to driving in the snow.

I've never owned snow tires either.

But I mean obviously my 4x4 trucks handled weather much differently then my front wheel drive cars.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:17 PM (GBteo)

283 276 if it was Honda, it was probably drawn by Japanese peasants.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 11:15 PM (k+6VI)

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Back then the Japanese were too busy buying up all the prestige real estate on the West Coast to have any time to pull a rickshaw.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:17 PM (HJhxx)

284 Dude! Verbing is totally thinging, right?

*****

Snort !!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 18, 2018 11:17 PM (m45I2)

285 my ride is a 2000 Ford F-150 XLT. 4.2 V-6, automatic.

Sitting at 123,000 miles, it's got a lot of life left in it. Sure, it's ugly as sin and rough as a cob.

But run it does.

Can't see a reason to make a change, at least not for now.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at N




the green one?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:18 PM (MTjB1)

286 This sounds like my brother, lifelong Chicagoan. Several years ago, I told him I had bought an AK-47. He flipped his shit. I asked him to describe what that rifle was and did. I got every Libtard talking point in the book recited to me. I just told him the only thing he said that was accurate was that they had higher capacity mags than sone rifles.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at N



lol, well they do love their science

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:19 PM (MTjB1)

287 My insurance is actually ridiculously expensive, mostly for being black.

A cousin of mine (white lesbian) has totalled 3 cars, and she still pays less than half what I do.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (pgXNG)

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This can not possibly be the reason your insurance is what it is. Any insurance company charging high rates due to ethnicity would have the Feds so far up their ass a colonoscopy would be like a beach vacation.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 11:19 PM (ffYR/)

288 Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (pgXNG)

I don't know about the rates for blacks, but the rates for young people are very high-no matter what your race. I don't recall them even asking one's race.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:19 PM (AllCR)

289 I can see Bill`s nipples thru his wet T shirt on the Lido deck...how damn hawt can he be???

Posted by: Cuckstar Rick Wilson at November 18, 2018 11:19 PM (yhf6w)

290 282 You kind of just get used to driving in the snow.

I've never owned snow tires either.

But I mean obviously my 4x4 trucks handled weather much differently then my front wheel drive cars.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:17 PM (GBteo)

Rear-Wheel Drive and about 3900 lbs.

Under ideal conditions, it could reach 140 MPH (and I drove it at 125 driving up from Harrisburg to Allentown).

It pretty much needed snow tires and weight in the back.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:20 PM (pgXNG)

291 Besides being a "Journalist", He was also an Islamic terrorism sympathizer.

and a spy for the Secret Police.

Khashoggi was a known threat playing fatal games with homicidal players.

Now he is dead. No surprise.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 11:20 PM (LL1Be)

292 And they surely don't ask your sexual orientation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:21 PM (AllCR)

293 I drove my 1986 Toyota pickup til 2012, when we left LA.. Only reason I didn't being it back here with me is because it didn't have AC.

Got 1250 dollars cash for it. It was at 300,000 and still ran fine.

Only thing I ever had to do to it was replace one clutch, the master/slave cylinder, and have the carburetor rebuilt. Of course I had to replace the battery a few times, but with God as my witness, I think the spark plugs only got changed once or twice.

I still miss her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 18, 2018 11:21 PM (90KoH)

294 > I don't know about the rates for blacks, but the rates for young people are very high-no matter what your race.

Young men, especially.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:22 PM (vOkuK)

295 Under ideal conditions, it could reach 140 MPH (and I drove it at 125 driving up from Harrisburg to Allentown).

It pretty much needed snow tires and weight in the back.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:20 PM (pgXNG)

Aha. The real cause of the high insurance rates, maybe? Too many tickets?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:22 PM (fDU8w)

296 ...the green one?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:18 PM (MTjB1)



That would be correct.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 11:22 PM (QzJWU)

297 292 And they surely don't ask your sexual orientation.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:21 PM (AllCR)

Probably not, but birth/RL gender is certainly on the actuarial tables.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:22 PM (pgXNG)

298 292 And they surely don't ask your sexual orientation.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:21 PM (AllCR)

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They should.

Its said that gay men have a much higher incidence of rear end collisions than the population at large.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:22 PM (HJhxx)

299 Eh, I've never had a problem with any cars in the winter. But again -- New England.

Chicago here. Front wheel drive made my world much nicer in snow.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 11:23 PM (K22Va)

300 295 Aha. The real cause of the high insurance rates, maybe? Too many tickets?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:22 PM (fDU8w)

No.

I've only had 2 tickets in my lifetime.

And the last one was over 15 years ago.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:23 PM (pgXNG)

301 when we left LA.. Only reason I didn't being it back here with me is because it didn't have AC.

Got 1250 dollars cash for it. It was at 300,000 and still ran fine.

Only thing I ever had to do to it was replace one clutch, the master/slave cylinder, and have the carburetor rebuilt. Of course I had to replace the battery a few times, but with God as my witness, I think the spark plugs only got changed once or twice.

I still miss her.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at N




you sold her?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:23 PM (MTjB1)

302 they surely don't ask your sexual orientation


I am a North-South guy myself.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 11:23 PM (LL1Be)

303 My insurance is actually ridiculously expensive, mostly for being black.

A cousin of mine (white lesbian) has totalled 3 cars, and she still pays less than half what I do.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (pgXNG)

Insurance is totally risk based, but I doubt they're allowed to take race in to account.

When I was 25 and living in a city, my insurance was 3x what it was when I was 27 and living in a ruralish area near a city in a different state. I don't know how old you are, but rates drop dramatically as you age -- the first big milestone is hitting 25.

I pay like $45 a month now for full coverage w/ pretty high liability coverage on my one car, living in a small city in a rural state with a car that's worth very little. I also have a perfect driving record, which helps.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:24 PM (GBteo)

304 300 I've only had 2 tickets in my lifetime.

And the last one was over 15 years ago.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:23 PM (pgXNG)

One was for parking, the other was for having a light out.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:24 PM (pgXNG)

305 I've only had 2 tickets in my lifetime.

And the last one was over 15 years ago.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:23 PM (pgXNG)

Well, shop around for other insurers. You are old enough now that the horrendous "under 25" rates should not factor in any more.

Seems to me you need to get out from under the thumb of your family. Pack up and move to Texas. Go where the work is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:26 PM (fDU8w)

306 One was for parking, the other was for having a light out.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:24 PM (pgXNG)


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Having a light out, or taking a light out?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:26 PM (HJhxx)

307 I am with the GM no good idea. The company should have gone into bankruptcy and let the sharks buy off the salvageable parts. Easy choice for me as I am Ford since my first Fairlane 1957 2 tone with a 289 3 on the tree and an overdrive under the dash. I miss the 1950s.

Posted by: colfax mingo at November 18, 2018 11:26 PM (tCvhJ)

308 Good news, everyone! We've negotiated Congressman Swalwell down to conventional warheads! Whew, what a relief...

Posted by: GOPe at November 18, 2018 11:26 PM (Z1eux)

309 306 Having a light out, or taking a light out?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:26 PM (HJhxx)

I'm glad you think I'm such a lame-ass libtard that I'd run into someone else.

But no.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:27 PM (pgXNG)

310 One was for parking, the other was for having a light out.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:24 PM (pgXNG)

Only moving violations should affect insurance, and it should drop after 5 to 7 years.

Must be location based.

...Or you're getting hosed. Maybe shop around for insurance?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:27 PM (GBteo)

311 you know what, insurance in colorado and ny are about the same. but the colorado insurance is worse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (MTjB1)

312 310 ...Or you're getting hosed. Maybe shop around for insurance?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:27 PM (GBteo)

I tried.

I was told I wouldn't get a better rate than I'm getting where I am now.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (pgXNG)

313
I'm glad you think I'm such a lame-ass libtard that I'd run into someone else.

But no.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:27 PM (pgXNG)


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Bah. I was just funnin' with you. I'm sure you're a superb vehicle operator!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (HJhxx)

314 Sharkman,
IIRC, CPO Francis was a large AA sailor.
I was Delta Co. BMC Goglia. Terror.
Brick Alley Pub back patio for massive quantities.
O'Club let me have tab. Prior enlisted.
Don't miss the 5 milers.
Finish AD 1Aug. Good ride.

Posted by: NavyLurker at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (/tdLl)

315 313 Bah. I was just funnin' with you. I'm sure you're a superb vehicle operator!


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (HJhxx)

Heh, no. You obviously think I'm a drug addict who rams into the back of people.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (pgXNG)

316 I am so grateful to Sue for making this happen (and I'm sure that Joyce is, too).
Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 10:07 PM

Very cool. Best to all Joyce's loved ones.

Posted by: Farmer at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (yJ1e6)

317 After being a Ford man for all my years up till 2003 I was completely turned off by them after buying a Ford Ranger.

I had recently had a 1987 Ford Ranger and loved it. So I was all excited when I was able to buy a new car in 2003.

Went to the Ford dealer and said get me one of those. I unfortunately did not do a test ride and when I got the new car realized they had changed so much about it from the older models that is was almost undriveable. Oh and it's extra special safety anti theft system failed on the 2nd day of ownership and I had to wait for 2 days for warmer weather before the truck would start.*grrrrr* 2. days brand new

And all through it's 7 year life it provided me every day with reasons why I would never buy a Ford again. The very last thing was when I was trying to separate the transmission (manual) from the engine and could not get it to come apart. Still don't know what I did wrong or what special situation caused my failure. I needed to separate it so I could repair the hydraulic clutch (another 'innovation' that sucked) as a result I had to junk the car as I couldn't afford to have the work done. (best estimate was 1,000)

I hated that truck and I've never hated a vehicle before.

I have a Dodge right now that I've had longer than the Truck and was older than the truck when I bought it. Runs like a swiss watch. Go. Figure. I want a newer one but it's not going to be a Ford. And I regret to this day that I didn't go to the Toyota Dealer when I was ready to buy a truck back in 2003.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (D+X8V)

318 you know what, insurance in colorado and ny are about the same. but the colorado insurance is worse.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (MTjB1)

You've got all those stoners there now, driving around in a daze. So they raise rates to cover all the 'uninsured driver" cases.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (fDU8w)

319 Sounds like you need an insurance check up Hikaru. Now if your cousin lives in an area with fewer *uninsured, cough illegal alien, cough* drivers plus getting the woman discount that might account for the rate difference, but if you haven't asked an independent agent if they can find you a better deal you may be paying too much.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (pHzbJ)

320 1. Get a breakdown of your premium from the insurance company, line by line itemized with the extra racial fee hilighted
2. Hire a lawyer, or more likely, hire the survivor of the attorney Battle Royale that spontaneously erupts outside your house, each one fighting to the death to try to take your case on contingency
3. Buy every new car that there is so nobody else can ever own a new car and drive one of your brand new cars every day and throw it away at night with the settlement

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 11:30 PM (t+qrx)

321 319 Sounds like you need an insurance check up Hikaru. Now if your cousin lives in an area with fewer *uninsured, cough illegal alien, cough* drivers plus getting the woman discount that might account for the rate difference, but if you haven't asked an independent agent if they can find you a better deal you may be paying too much.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (pHzbJ)

My cousin lives in Fort Worth.

So that might be part of it.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:30 PM (pgXNG)

322 Never had a ticket, but drove past the speed limit often.

Posted by: colfax mingo at November 18, 2018 11:30 PM (tCvhJ)

323 hey there, AOP, any thoughts about snow boots. want to buy a new pair even though I have no need.


have traditionally gone with sorels. was looking at sorel, la crosse, and baffin. any input?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:30 PM (MTjB1)

324 I tried.

I was told I wouldn't get a better rate than I'm getting where I am now.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (pgXNG)

Weird. I was with State Farm for years, I switched to like Ohio Mutual or something (I don't even know to be honest) on the advice of an insurance agent. Saved probably 20% a year though.

Not HUGE, but not nothing either.

Plus I got free glass coverage and a lower deductible.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:31 PM (GBteo)

325 311
you know what, insurance in colorado and ny are about the same. but the colorado insurance is worse.

I've been wondering with weed legal and stoners flying off those winding mountain roads. Can't be good for anyone.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 11:31 PM (K22Va)

326 324 Weird. I was with State Farm for years, I switched to like Ohio Mutual or something (I don't even know to be honest) on the advice of an insurance agent. Saved probably 20% a year though.

Not HUGE, but not nothing either.

Plus I got free glass coverage and a lower deductible.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:31 PM (GBteo)

I'm with Penn National.

Any of the big companies wanted to charge more.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:32 PM (pgXNG)

327 312; hikaru, our son lived in downtown st. paul mn. car insurance there was crazy. because of theft, vehicle break ins, etc. he moved to a gated community in the outskirts of las vegas. his insurance was basically half of what it used to be.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:32 PM (KP5rU)

328 I tried.

I was told I wouldn't get a better rate than I'm getting where I am now.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:28 PM (pgXNG)

Told by whom?
You can go online to something like progressive and compare rates. Also, with how few miles you drive annually, you should get a discount.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 11:32 PM (Rz2Nc)

329 Just remembered.

LT Voight.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (Kge8X)

330 Fun fact: The last two accidents I had both involved my parked car being hit at work when I wasn't even in it.

The first time, I was like "well that was a fluke".

Then it happened again about eight years later, with a different car in the same parking spot.

I changed parking spots.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (sdi6R)

331 320 1. Get a breakdown of your premium from the insurance company, line by line itemized with the extra racial fee hilighted

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Oh yeah. The diabolical "Urban Surcharge"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (HJhxx)

332 have traditionally gone with sorels. was looking at sorel, la crosse, and baffin. any input?
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:30 PM (MTjB1)

Sorels work for me, although lately, I find pointing the truck south, and pressing on the accelerator with my sneaker does a better job of keeping my feet warm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (fDU8w)

333 I always laugh at the USAA commercials where they show vets and their families.

Couple of black and white shots of vets in uniform back in the day.
Then : " yeah, bro. Our house got all fucked up and shit with that really bad (insert natural disaster here) but USAA was right there by our side, fixing our house. "
Yeah. Amazing.

Fixing the home that you paid out the ass for homeowners insurance for. Homeowners insurance. Fixing homes.

Who knew?

Like total elven magic.

Such a nauseating whoring out of veterans and their service by a private company for marketing.


Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (LL1Be)

334 I'm with Penn National.

Any of the big companies wanted to charge more.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:32 PM (pgXNG)

Yeah, with the big companies you're paying a premium for their massive advertising budgets.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (GBteo)

335 Sorels work for me, although lately, I find pointing the truck south, and pressing on the accelerator with my sneaker does a better job of keeping my feet warm.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at N




lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:34 PM (MTjB1)

336 > have traditionally gone with sorels. was looking at sorel, la crosse, and baffin. any input?

Sorels are okay, but the Chinese-made ones nowadays aren't nearly as good as the old-school Canuck-made ones.

They've improved somewhat since Columbia bought them out of bankruptcy (common story... young smartass punk goes to B-School, takes over the family business, ruins the brand by outsourcing production to China).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 11:35 PM (vOkuK)

337 Oh yeah. The diabolical "Urban Surcharge"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:33 PM (HJhxx)

Yeah, like I said, it was a massive drop for me moving from a city to right outside a smaller city in a different state. With the same coverage and company, I was paying a little more than 1/3 of what I was paying previously. When I switched companies, I'm actually a little below 1/3.

It's wild how much money I saved on insurance by moving a few hours away.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:35 PM (GBteo)

338 Who knew?

Like total elven magic.

Such a nauseating whoring out of veterans and their service by a private company for marketing.


Posted by: mikeyG at N




well, the accident forgiveness commercial thing is funnier.

they have run several variations, all but one are women and minorities going on about how insurance is so unreasonable and unfair but this accident forgiveness is super.

sure it is, they pay for it by charging you more every month.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:37 PM (MTjB1)

339 Car crap aside...

...I took Monday off of work.

Because EVERYBODY except me took Friday off.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:37 PM (pgXNG)

340 Fixing the home that you paid out the ass for homeowners insurance for. Homeowners insurance. Fixing homes.

Not getting what you mean. That's why you buy insurance, right?

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 11:37 PM (K22Va)

341 My insurance is actually ridiculously expensive, mostly for being black.

A cousin of mine (white lesbian) has totalled 3 cars, and she still pays less than half what I do.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:14 PM (pgXNG)

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I have never encountered an insurance company that charged different rates based on skin color. They don't even ask about it. And I'm pretty sure it's illegal.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 11:38 PM (cpTaT)

342 Sorels are okay, but the Chinese-made ones nowadays aren't nearly as good as the old-school Canuck-made ones.

They've improved somewhat since Columbia bought them out of bankruptcy (common story... young smartass punk goes to B-School, takes over the family business, ruins the brand by outsourcing production to China).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at N




lol. surprise. that is my concern, who wants chinese made anything. think la crosse was bought out by some vc firm.

one thing I like about Danner, even though they were bought out by the japanese is that they make some of their boots here and they are recraftable.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:39 PM (MTjB1)

343
well, the accident forgiveness commercial thing is funnier. *


*Accident forgiveness not available in California.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 11:39 PM (aKsyK)

344 Someone posted a good joke about Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez in the comments section of Legal Insurrection in the thread about her:

https://tinyurl.com/yb3ztqbp

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:40 PM (AllCR)

345 accident forgiveness.

Because we love you, man.

And you pay us.


But mostly because "we love you, man".

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 11:40 PM (LL1Be)

346 Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:29 PM (D+X8V)

Now, see, I have a 2006 Ford Ranger Sport and I love it beyond reason. I will say that the tranny slips on me now and then, but it never does it for the guys at the shop, so maybe it's something I'm doing. (Except it's not)

I also have an 2017 F150 Raptor that I love as well, I just wish it had a full sized bed. But when your old man is 6'5, you gotta go SuperCab on at least one vehicle. (Never mind that he squeezes himself into a Scion regularly)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 18, 2018 11:40 PM (90KoH)

347 @341 I have never encountered an insurance company that charged different rates based on skin color. They don't even ask about it. And I'm pretty sure it's illegal.
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Yup. Very illegal. In fact, my recollection is that here in California they even banned using zip codes to influence auto insurance rates in part due to accusations that companies were using them as a form of racism. "That zip code is mostly populated by people from that ethnic group, so we'll charge this rate instead of the rate that we charge in that zip code where another ethnic group is in the majority."

Posted by: junior at November 18, 2018 11:40 PM (Qvm+G)

348 We need to light up a flaming skull!!! Brenda Snipes has resigned in Broward County, FL!!!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yddfbh2k

Posted by: Mr. Right at November 18, 2018 11:41 PM (iEe0A)

349 Don't get me started on the accident forgiveness thing.
They always make it sound like there is no fault involved.
And, in some cases there is actually no individual fault (the other person hit YOU). But, I sense that they are targeting the peeps that are actually causing the accidents.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 18, 2018 11:42 PM (8iiMU)

350 Another thought, Hikaru: are you still paying for collision and comprehensive coverage on that 2009 car? That you have no bank loan on? Cancel that right out. Should save you a bundle on insurance. Figure the replacement cost value of your car, and take some of your savings, and put it in an interest-bearing account called "car contingency". If you have a mechanical issue, or a wreck, you can replace the car from your contingency fund. It's called self-insurance. You won't be able to do that with your liability insurance, unless you can post a bond of a couple of million dollars, though. But eliminating collision and comprehensive can save much $$$. And you can keep fire and theft on it quite reasonably, unless you are in a high-crime neighborhood, or own a theft-prone model.

I'm not a fan of car alarms; I regard them as useless, but some sort of secret disabling device, with a hidden switch, could foil all but the most resourceful car thieves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:43 PM (fDU8w)

351 Long ago I worked as a law clerk in the in-house law firm of a big insurance company. I suffered through all the Big Company bullshit like pressure to contribute to United Way, participation in bogus weekend charitable events, etc. I hated it.

One time they had a contest where employees were invited to submit ideas for a new slogan. You know, "You're In Good Hands," "Like a Good Neighbor" type stuff.

Knowing how they actually handled their claims, I submitted, "We're [ABC] Insurance Co. Fuck you and your claim."

To my surprise, it didn't even make the Final Five.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:43 PM (HJhxx)

352 Never had a ticket, but drove past the speed limit often.
Posted by: colfax mingo
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77 mph, two lane road, in a turn which I had slowed for.

Deputy was rounding the turn from the opposite direction. I just pulled over and waited for him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 11:44 PM (hkMWc)

353 the accident forgiveness thing.
They always make it sound like there is no fault involved.
And, in some cases there is actually no individual fault (the other person hit YOU). But, I sense that they are targeting the peeps that are actually causing the accidents.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at N


there is the one with the redhead the goes on about "you barely hit the other car and the damage was so slight you could have covered it by filling in the scratch with a pen?

really?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:44 PM (MTjB1)

354 How about, don't hit anyone with your car? These cars are like beer cans these days.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 11:44 PM (K22Va)

355 I have never encountered an insurance company that
charged different rates based on skin color. They don't even ask about
it. And I'm pretty sure it's illegal.
Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 11:38 PM (cpTaT)

They can figure out pretty easily by where you live and that may be what they're really charging extra for is the increased risk of theft and vandalism in urban areas.

See the insurance companies unless forced to do otherwise (and then they lose money) assess risk. They don't care about social justice or profiling. The go by FACTS. And the fact is, driving/owning a car in a city is riskier than in the boondocks.

More people, more crime, more chances of accident or damage.

I did that drivers thing with progressive and that knocked my ins. down about 15% even tho I already live in a rural area. I could get more as a senior but I'm too lazy to take the class you have to do for it. it's like another 5%. In PA.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:44 PM (D+X8V)

356 as a nazi, i'm surprised my insurance any higher, what with all the "heil trump" salutes i'm forced to do while driving. everybody knows nazi's are notoriously shitty drivers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:45 PM (KP5rU)

357 Hikaru,

Other than tending to the sheep and chickens, and splitting firewood, I have been retired since 2005 when I sold my construction company. So except for that everyday is a day off unless the Missus tells me otherwise.

Goodnight all, be of good cheer, love your family and neighbors, and stay alert. There is never enough ammo or lerts.

Posted by: colfax mingo at November 18, 2018 11:45 PM (tCvhJ)

358 I thought the motto of the last firm I worked for should have been: It puts the lotion on or it gets the hose.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 11:45 PM (H5knJ)

359 To my surprise, it didn't even make the Final Five.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:43 PM (HJhxx)

LOL.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 18, 2018 11:45 PM (8iiMU)

360 356 as a nazi, i'm surprised my insurance any higher, what with all the "heil trump" salutes i'm forced to do while driving. everybody knows nazi's are notoriously shitty drivers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:45 PM (KP5rU)

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Nazi membership shouldn't make a difference if your car is an automatic. Your right hand will still be free for the Nazi salutes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (HJhxx)

361 there is the one with the redhead the goes on about
"you barely hit the other car and the damage was so slight you could
have covered it by filling in the scratch with a pen?



really?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:44 PM (MTjB1)

Yes.
Precisely.
Shut up, wench.

LOL

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (8iiMU)

362 Posted by: Mr. Right at November 18, 2018 11:41 PM (iEe0A)

Doing it to avoid legal problems,I suspect. She'll still get her full pension and nothing will happen to her because D.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (AllCR)

363 Yeah I think Hikaru is paying $$ ins. because he lives in Caili or Colo or a similar shit state where uninsured motorist coverage is mandatory and they refuse to take horrible aliens who drive drunk off the roads plus big city. Maybe has too low of a deductible or is at the point where dropping comprehensive/collision on the 10 year car makes sense.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (pHzbJ)

364 350: aop, a stick shift transmisdion is the world's best anti-theft device today.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (KP5rU)

365 I took Monday off of work.

Because EVERYBODY except me took Friday off.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:37 PM (pgXNG)

Good thinking!
When I was gainfully employed, I'd do stuff like that. Now I have a hobby farm, there are no days off.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (Rz2Nc)

366 nazi, i'm surprised my insurance any higher, what with all the "heil trump" salutes i'm forced to do while driving. everybody knows nazi's are notoriously shitty drivers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at N




well, that explains their fondness for tanks.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (MTjB1)

367 I took Monday off of work.

Because EVERYBODY except me took Friday off.
Posted by: Hikaru at N




well, who made their request first?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:48 PM (MTjB1)

368
I could get more as a senior but I'm too lazy to take the class you have to do for it. it's like another 5%. In PA.
Posted by: jakee308


What do they teach in "senior" school?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (aKsyK)

369 365 365 I took Monday off of work.

Because EVERYBODY except me took Friday off.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:37 PM (pgXNG)

Good thinking!
When I was gainfully employed, I'd do stuff like that. Now I have a hobby farm, there are no days off.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (Rz2Nc)

Even my supervisor that doesn't like me and hates when I take days off told me that he'd have done the same if he was me (and he NEVER takes days off).

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (pgXNG)

370 Well, our insurance here in the wilds of the Ozarks is not appreciably any cheaper than it was in SoCal.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (90KoH)

371 364; transmission. fucking ipad.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (KP5rU)

372 more as a senior but I'm too lazy to take the class you have to do for it. it's like another 5%. In PA.
Posted by: jakee308

What do they teach in "senior" school?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at N




what the vertical pedal on the right is for and how the turn signal works.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (MTjB1)

373 @ Hikaru.


Check and see if there's a Farm Bureau in your state.

For example, here it's Texas Farm Bureau. In Florida it's Florida Farm Bureau.

Same logo design, different words.

You're simply not going to beat their rates, I believe. 'Cause their entire customer base are, like you, low-loss-experience, older than 25, safe driving record drivers.

Moreover, because they really ARE a "Farm Bureau" that sells insurance, mostly to non-city dwellers... their customer base is overwhelmingly "deplorable", with all that entails as to work-ethic, responsibility, etc.

As compared to the stereotypical citified rice-rocket driver who's street racing at 3 am, or any/all other higher risk factors one finds in the more crowded environments.

You get a quote from Farm Bureau (if they operate in your State), and let me know how it comes out, okay?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (QzJWU)

374 362 FenelonSpoke: Yeah, I can't imagine she wouldn't have been forced out by the new Governor, but I sort of expected them to let that happen and them scream "racism" all over the media for weeks.

Posted by: Mr. Right at November 18, 2018 11:50 PM (iEe0A)

375 367 well, who made their request first?
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 11:48 PM (MTjB1)

Nobody.

They all called off on Friday Morning.

Even though I was in the building at 6 AM (and didn't get to leave until 7 PM the night before, and still didn't get to go home, thanks to the weather).

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:50 PM (pgXNG)

376 Being retired is like every day is Sunday.

Sometimes I have to stop and think what day of the week it is cause I lose track.



The downside is I get bored a lot.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:50 PM (D+X8V)

377 77 mph, two lane road, in a turn which I had slowed for.

Deputy was rounding the turn from the opposite direction. I just pulled over and waited for him.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 11:44 PM (hkMWc)

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Early on in my driving, I was on a 2 lane road in Wisconsin. I was at about 75 in a 55. An oncoming cop flipped the gumballs as soon as he passed me. I pulled onto the shoulder and waited for him right away, over a hill.

He came screaming over that hill and couldn't even slow down enough not to pass me. He had to back up to get to me. He gave me a thank you and a 64 over ticket, 1 point.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 11:52 PM (ffYR/)

378 376
Being retired is like every day is Sunday.

I don't like the weekends because there are too many people around.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 11:52 PM (K22Va)

379 I think they teach defensive driving to the Seniors and taking time to be sure what pedal you're pushing on.

You get older you zone out a bit and forget what you're doing and if you don't take certain steps (like a mental check list and also don't hit the gas until all pedals and feet are accounted for) you can do damage.

We can get distracted a bit easier than someone younger altho that depends these days with some young ppl.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:53 PM (D+X8V)

380 378: this. a million times. i love monday.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:54 PM (KP5rU)

381 Heh.

I passed a cop car on my way up towards Allentown/Whitehall doing 115, back around 2005.

But it was an empty car with a mannequin in it, and I didn't get pulled over, nor did I get mailed about it.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:54 PM (pgXNG)

382 370 Well, our insurance here in the wilds of the Ozarks is not appreciably any cheaper than it was in SoCal.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (90KoH)

Like I said -- it's all risk based.

The math is the math. If you live in, say, Bridgeport, CT, you're chances of filing a claim are much higher then if you live in Brattleboro, VT.

And the insurance companies have decades of data and a very healthy sample size. They hire the best actuaries in the world to correlate things like the kind of car you drive, the age and gender you are, the zip code you live in, etc. to your chances of making a claim.

It's unbelievably accurate in the aggregate.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:54 PM (GBteo)

383

For all you retirees out there--it isn't old age that will kill you--it's the honey do list.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 18, 2018 11:55 PM (S/hVx)

384 Fifth picture down-of someplace in WI reminds me of some of the colors in MisHum's top photo:

https://earthporn.org/




Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 11:55 PM (AllCR)

385 I would take Monday off over Friday every single time. I have never understood why anyone wants Friday off. Friday is the best day of the week.

When I worked 9/80s, I wanted Monday off instead of Friday, but the state of CA would not allow it. They said workers are cheated out of Monday holidays that way. I asked if I could sign a waiver, and the answer was no. California apparently knows better than I know myself how I prefer to use my time.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 18, 2018 11:56 PM (90KoH)

386 Even my supervisor that doesn't like me and hates when I take days off told me that he'd have done the same if he was me (and he NEVER takes days off).
Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:49 PM (pgXNG)

If your supervisor doesn't like you and hates when you take off you're doing something right.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 11:57 PM (Rz2Nc)

387
Being retired is like every day is Sunday.

You can never eat at Chick-fil-A

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 11:57 PM (aKsyK)

388 I am retired as well I prefer maydays as well, quiet house all to myself. Solitude has its merits.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 18, 2018 11:59 PM (0OmEj)

389 350: aop, a stick shift transmisdion is the world's best anti-theft device today.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 18, 2018 11:47 PM (KP5rU)

Heh. True enough. But they will chew up the transmission gears trying.

I can tell this now, because, Look Ma, no ashtrays! Back in the 1990's when '80's and '90's Toyotas were getting routinely stolen because the punks had figured out how to quickly beat the ignition lock, a friend of mine theft-proofed his family's Toyota fleet by mounting an ordinary push-button switch behind the dashboard ash tray, wired into the crank circuit from the ignition switch. If the ash tray was pushed fully into place, it hot the switch button and completed the circuit, and the car would start in the usual fashion when the key was turned. With the ashtray pulled out even as little a quarter-inch, the circuit was broken, and the car could not be started with the key.

So the drill was to drive somewhere, park, and give the ashtray a little tug to move it out a tiny bit. Upon reentering the car to go on, push the tray in, and start and go. He said passengers never even noticed him doing it.

And if a thief enters the car, first thing they did was pull the ashtray out, looking for the spare key that many drivers stashed there. Failing to find that, they'd punch the ignition lock, and be unable to start the car. Most of those teenage thieves were not mechanically inclined; they learned to punch the lock because a buddy showed them how to do it. Hot-wiring was not in their repertoire. and they'd already wasted too much time on that car, so off to another.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 11:59 PM (fDU8w)

390 386 If your supervisor doesn't like you and hates when you take off you're doing something right.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 11:57 PM (Rz2Nc)

Normally, yeah.

But since I was stuck as the only person at all to come in on Friday, he said even he would find it bad if I didn't get a day off to make up for everyone else taking one without warning, heh.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 18, 2018 11:59 PM (pgXNG)

391 378: this. a million times. i love monday.

On the road doing my thing somewhere between when people go to work and come home. Way more kids on the road around here.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:00 AM (K22Va)

392 388: yes it does.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:00 AM (KP5rU)

393 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 11:54 PM (GBteo)

Yes. There are any amount of factors that go into it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:00 AM (90KoH)

394 MONDAYS not maydays. Damn autocucumber.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:00 AM (0OmEj)

395 was rounding the turn from the opposite direction. I just pulled over and waited for him.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at N




lol, had nearly same thing happen. was going downhill on a two lane road easily doubling the speed limit when some sheriff drove by in the opposite direction. while waiting on the of the road, watched him do a u-turn and turn on his lights. suddenly, he did another u-turn and took off in the other direction.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:00 AM (MTjB1)

396 Every day is Sunday FOR ME! not every body else.

Most times if I need something from the rest of the world I will check to see if they are open before heading out.

I only get fooled about some of the weird state/local holidays.

But i'm never in a hurry (which is very relaxing) as I have to where I have to be.

They should allow people to "retire" when they are young and then after 10 years make them go to work to pay for that 10 years of finding out a lot about life and yourself.


Course there'd always be somebody who'd abuse it.

That's why the human race can't have nice things.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 19, 2018 12:02 AM (D+X8V)

397 mayday is a fuckin commie holiday. fuck mayday.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:02 AM (0OmEj)

398 Well, we've arrived in Albuquerque.

Posted by: Emmie at November 19, 2018 12:03 AM (cpTaT)

399 Oi.

A friend of mine got his car impounded because I couldn't drive Stick.

He got pulled over and arrested for DUI after failing a breath test (he thought he was sober, and I believed him)

He failed the breath test, but I passed it.

The cops asked me if I could drive stick, and I said I couldn't.

They said that if I could drive stick, they'd have let me drive my friend back, but since I couldn't, they were locking him up for the night and making me pay for a hotel room until they let him out.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:03 AM (pgXNG)

400
Time for the old folk who are retired and smiling about it all day.

Never despair, good people. We WILL, because we're Americans, prevail through this the latest situation, as we have in the past.

There'll be heartbreak and frustration along the way but victory is ultimately ours--IF we stay the course.
So remember, we are Americans, thus that head is held HIGH and PROUD.

Goodnite, good people. Be safe and sleep well.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 19, 2018 12:06 AM (S/hVx)

401 The commies hijacked a holiday that has been celebrated for centuries.

I love May Day, and still celebrate it. Making fewer and fewer May baskets these days, but the old folks in the nursing home love getting them and remember making them when they were children.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:06 AM (90KoH)

402 They said that if I could drive stick, they'd have let me drive my
friend back, but since I couldn't, they were locking him up for the
night and making me pay for a hotel room until they let him out.

Why didn't you say you could and give it a try?

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:06 AM (K22Va)

403 A friend of mine got his car impounded because I couldn't drive Stick.

He got pulled over and arrested for DUI after failing a breath test (he thought he was sober, and I believed him)

He failed the breath test, but I passed it.

The cops asked me if I could drive stick, and I said I couldn't.

They said that if I could drive stick, they'd have let me drive my friend back, but since I couldn't, they were locking him up for the night and making me pay for a hotel room until they let him out.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:03 AM (pgXN

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This literally cannot possibly be true.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (ffYR/)

404 Being retired is like every day is Sunday.

Sometimes I have to stop and think what day of the week it is cause I lose track.



The downside is I get bored a lot.
Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 11:50 PM (D+X8V)

I think of it more as Saturday, I can do all the work I want or next to nothing. Sunday here is God's day, a day of rest, community standard and all.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (Rz2Nc)

405 402 Why didn't you say you could and give it a try?
Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:06 AM (K22Va)

Mostly because they would have followed me until I made it back onto the highway.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (pgXNG)

406 I never could drive stick until I tried.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (aKsyK)

407 403 This literally cannot possibly be true.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (ffYR/)

It was.

You can want to say it's not and shit on me all you want, but it was.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:08 AM (pgXNG)

408 Neither of my millennial progeny know haw to drive a stick. It was second nature for me. I don't drive anymore so I guess I don't drive a stick either. Gah I miss driving!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:08 AM (0OmEj)

409 Neither of my millennial progeny know haw to drive a stick. It was second nature for me. I don't drive anymore so I guess I don't drive a stick either. Gah I miss driving!
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at N




well, not many manufacturers make them anymore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:09 AM (MTjB1)

410 Hey everybody. Nice to be on the top ten list again!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:10 AM (miE9U)

411 I soooo miss driving a stick. I'm not sure they even make them any more?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:10 AM (90KoH)

412 yeah, the flappy paddles are fun not as much as the real stick.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:10 AM (MTjB1)

413 Hope nobody minds if I recycle this, I first posted it this morning in the food thread...

**TOP FIVE RECIPES FROM DEPLORABLE COOKBOOK II**

5. Cornish game hen stuffed with missing Broward ballots

4. Peruvian bathtub "whiskey"

3. Caravan Road Chili, with secret migrant spices

2. Deep-fried roadkill, Mexican-style

1. Spatchcocked Sinema Surprise

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:11 AM (miE9U)

414 407 403 This literally cannot possibly be true.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (ffYR/)

It was.

You can want to say it's not and shit on me all you want, but it was.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:08 AM (pgXNG)


Yes, I totally believe it.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2018 12:12 AM (sdi6R)

415 411; tammy, the mustang g.t. is made with a 6 speed stick. i've been looking for a used one. won't consider an automatic. i miss having a manual transmission.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:12 AM (KP5rU)

416 soooo miss driving a stick.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at N




so, Thor holding out on you?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:12 AM (MTjB1)

417 I think a manual transmission is an option on fewer and fewer cars. Extra cash if you want a clutch. All of the cars at the kim hause have that awful cvt thing.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:13 AM (0OmEj)

418 mayday, mayday

Posted by: Zombie Senor Juan McCain at November 19, 2018 12:13 AM (Tyii7)

419 409 Neither of my millennial progeny know haw to drive a stick. It was second nature for me. I don't drive anymore so I guess I don't drive a stick either. Gah I miss driving!
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at N




well, not many manufacturers make them anymore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:09 AM (MTjB1)



Most cars though seem to have a "manual" shift mode though. My Hyundai has it, and I think my parents Buick also has it.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:13 AM (cAnNx)

420 Sharkman,
IIRC, CPO Francis was a large AA sailor.
I was Delta Co. BMC Goglia. Terror.
Brick Alley Pub back patio for massive quantities.
O'Club let me have tab. Prior enlisted.
Don't miss the 5 milers.
Finish AD 1Aug. Good ride.

Posted by: NavyLurker


Chief Francis was indeed a very large AA. We called him the "Spine-ripper".

Thank you for your very long service to our country. I was supply, got out after 4 and went to law school. I did enjoy my 4 in, especially when at sea. Something about being on the open ocean, don't know what it is.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2018 12:13 AM (Kge8X)

421 Most cars though seem to have a "manual" shift mode though. My Hyundai has it, and I think my parents Buick also has it.
Posted by: buzzion at N



right, but no clutch. does it require you to move the lever?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:14 AM (MTjB1)

422 As I recall it, when the Mazda Miata first came out, it was available ONLY with a stick. No automatic option.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:14 AM (miE9U)

423 It was.

You can want to say it's not and shit on me all you want, but it was.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:08 AM (pgXNG)

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Not shitting on you in any way. Please cite the law that would compel you to pay for a hotel room for your "friend" and I will totes believe you.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (ffYR/)

424
Something about being on the open ocean, don't know what it is.
Posted by: Sharkman


You can see the stars.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (aKsyK)

425 It was.



You can want to say it's not and shit on me all you want, but it was.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 19, 2018 12:08 AM (pgXNG)



Yes, I totally believe it.

Me too.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (K22Va)

426 Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:12 AM (KP5rU)

Ooooooooooh.....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (90KoH)

427 y5, I think the "manual" shift does require the lever to be moved, instead of using a clutch.

I'm afraid to touch it. I don't wanna grind my gears, literally.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (miE9U)

428 421; mine does. but, still not like having a clutch. paddle shifters suck.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:16 AM (KP5rU)

429 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:12 AM (MTjB1)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:16 AM (90KoH)

430 y5, I think the "manual" shift does require the lever to be moved, of using a clutch.

I'm afraid to touch it. I don't wanna grind my gears, literally.
Posted by: qdpsteve at N


you won't grind your gears if you do not have to worry about the clutch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:16 AM (MTjB1)

431
This literally cannot possibly be true.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:07 AM (ffYR/
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Why not? It actually seems kind of . . . practical.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2018 12:17 AM (13CQC)

432 Wanted to gloat a bit: I just got the box sets of the TV series The Critic, and The Rockford Files. :-)
Should be fun.

Also, I don't know if it's still available, but earlier today Amazon had the blu-rays of the entire series of The Sopranos on sale, for 50 bucks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:17 AM (miE9U)

433 yeah, the flappy paddles are fun not as much as the real stick.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:10 AM (MTjB1)

That's what she said.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:17 AM (fDU8w)

434
421 Most cars though seem to have a "manual" shift mode though. My Hyundai has it, and I think my parents Buick also has it.
Posted by: buzzion at N



right, but no clutch. does it require you to move the lever?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:14 AM (MTjB1)



Right, no clutch. And yeah you have to move the lever. On my car, when it is in Drive you push it towards you and that puts it into it's "manual" shifting up for a higher gear and down for lower. But it does automatically shift down after certain points while breaking, so if you're in 6th gear and coming to a stop it will automatically drop down to 1st.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:18 AM (cAnNx)

435 My flappy paddles are built for luvin', baby

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (miE9U)

436 434; exactly.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (KP5rU)

437 mine does. but, still not like having a clutch. paddle shifters suck.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at N



yeah rarely touch the paddle shifters. why bother.


the only time I am tempted to use them is to downshift. does not seem to be much point in accelerating. stomp on the accelerator and the computer adjusts the shift points.

but why downshift? would rather put wear and tear on my brakes than on my transmission.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (MTjB1)

438 Not shitting on you in any way. Please cite the law that would compel you to pay for a hotel room for your "friend" and I will totes believe you.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (ffYR/)

I read it as the cops put his friend in the drunk tank, and he was left with no option but to take a hotel room so he could bail his buddy out in the morning and get a ride home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (fDU8w)

439 I have had fried road kill, with a side of pinto beans, so I guess you could call it Mexican style!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (90KoH)

440 Tammy, uh, yum? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (miE9U)

441 The purpose of an insurance company is to maximize earnings for its owners/shareholders, not to pay claims.

All complaints about insurance company practices flow from this simple truth, which very few people are aware of.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (Kge8X)

442 Right, no clutch. And yeah you have to move the lever. On my car, when it is in Drive you push it towards you and that puts it into it's "manual" shifting up for a higher gear and down for lower. But it does automatically shift down after certain points while breaking, so if you're in 6th gear and coming to a stop it will automatically drop down to 1st.
Posted by: buzzion at N



got it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (MTjB1)

443 I like driving a stick. Every car I've owned after my first one has been a stick.

It used to be that manual transmissions got better gas mileage than automatics, but I think that has flipped the other way around in recent years with computer controlled automatic transmissions.

Still, I think manuals are probably cheaper to repair.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (sdi6R)

444 wtf is a paddle shifter?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (90KoH)

445 438 Not shitting on you in any way. Please cite the law that would compel you to pay for a hotel room for your "friend" and I will totes believe you.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:15 AM (ffYR/)

I read it as the cops put his friend in the drunk tank, and he was left with no option but to take a hotel room so he could bail his buddy out in the morning and get a ride home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (fDU8w)



Likely with the cops answering a question of "What am I supposed to do?" with "Well if you can't get someone to pick you up to take you home you're gonna have to get a hotel room for the night until we release him."

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:21 AM (cAnNx)

446 You have never seen a stary sky untill you have seen it from the middle of the Atlantic ocean. I sometimes miss being at sea then I wake up and remember the stupid shit that goes with it. I hated the 1MC and the damn boatsun whistle. To this day I hate that noise almost as much as I hate pagers (from my 24/7 oncall civie jobs, I still have nightmares with the pager noises)

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:21 AM (0OmEj)

447 That's what she said.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at N




lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:21 AM (MTjB1)

448 but why downshift? would rather put wear and tear on my brakes than on my transmission.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (MTjB1)

Downshifting puts no more wear and tear on the transmission than upshifting. And if you are towing a trailer, or simply descending a long mountain grade, you do not want to rely solely upon your brakes, because no matter how good they are, you can overheat them, and bring on brake fade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:22 AM (fDU8w)

449
The purpose of an insurance company is to maximize earnings for its owners/shareholders

Just like any other company.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 12:22 AM (aKsyK)

450 444: paddles behind the steering wheel.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:22 AM (KP5rU)

451
I read it as the cops put his friend in the drunk
tank, and he was left with no option but to take a hotel room so he
could bail his buddy out in the morning and get a ride home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:19 AM (fDU8w)

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Same here. I got stuck for an extra day in another city once when I had to hang around waiting for my ride to get out of jail for a DUI.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2018 12:22 AM (13CQC)

452 It's well after midnight, am I allowed to vent?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 12:23 AM (x591V)

453 444 wtf is a paddle shifter?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (90KoH)



Gear shifters on the steering wheel where you rest your hands so you can push them without taking your hand off the wheel. They're really popular on super-cars. I became aware of them from Top Gear.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:23 AM (cAnNx)

454 Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:20 AM (miE9U)

The rabbit was fine. The venison backstrap was okay, but I am not a huge fan of venison in general, other than summer sausage.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:23 AM (90KoH)

455
You have never seen a stary sky untill you have seen it from the middle of the Atlantic ocean.

Never saw it from the Atlantic. Saw it plenty of times from the middle of the Pacific.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 12:24 AM (aKsyK)

456 Tammy, I enjoy summer sausage but it inflames my gout like crazy. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:24 AM (miE9U)

457 Tammy al-Thor at N




little paddles on the steering wheel or behind the steering wheel that shift the transmission up or down depending upon which you use.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:24 AM (MTjB1)

458 I never got to the pacific. never not once.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:25 AM (0OmEj)

459 paddle shifters were spawned in formula 1 cars i think. more eurotrash dumped on us. fuckers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:25 AM (KP5rU)

460 The act of pushing in a clutch with one foot, and the other on the brake. Pushing a gear shift into first and letting out the clutch until the gear is engaged is dead in the USA? Damn shame, damn shame.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:25 AM (K22Va)

461 Gear shifters on the steering wheel where you rest your hands so you can push them without taking your hand off the wheel. They're really popular on super-cars. I became aware of them from Top Gear.
Posted by: buzzion at N



do you still watch top gear? did you switch to the grand tour?

don't really care for top gear without the three that quit. not too fond of their new venture though.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:26 AM (MTjB1)

462 We don't have to hitch up horses anymore, either.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 12:27 AM (aKsyK)

463 Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:23 AM (cAnNx)

Well that explains why I have never heard of them, thanks!

I thought maybe it was just the thing that you move to go into reverse and drive, and there's Neutral and D2 or some such thing, too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:27 AM (90KoH)

464 @401 The commies hijacked a holiday that has been celebrated for centuries.

I love May Day, and still celebrate it. Making fewer and fewer May baskets these days, but the old folks in the nursing home love getting them and remember making them when they were children.
--------------

I call it "International Victims of Communism Day". Seems appropriate.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 12:27 AM (Qvm+G)

465 were spawned in formula 1 cars i think. more eurotrash dumped on us. fuckers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at N




completely agree, except they are so much faster and really do reduce wear and tear on the clutch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:28 AM (MTjB1)

466 It's well after midnight, am I allowed to vent?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 12:23 AM (x591V)

-----------°

Of course. Drop it here, Bitter.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 12:28 AM (ffYR/)

467 Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:24 AM (miE9U)

Oh you poor dear!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:28 AM (90KoH)

468 The act of pushing in a clutch with one foot, and the other on the brake. Pushing a gear shift into first and letting out the clutch until the gear is engaged is dead in the USA? Damn shame, damn shame.
Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:25 AM (K22Va)

Same in Canada. They even let you take your driver's test in an automatic. Some logic to that, I suppose. Newbies can concentrate on traffic hazards and rules of the road, instead of on shifting gears, which apparently requires superhuman powers of coordination.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:28 AM (fDU8w)

469 @411 I soooo miss driving a stick. I'm not sure they even make them any more?
---------------

Your average commuter vehicle, no. Some of the more specialized cars - like more expensive muscle cars - give you the option to have a manual transmission.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 12:29 AM (Qvm+G)

470 paddle shifters were spawned in formula 1 cars i think. more eurotrash dumped on us. fuckers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:25 AM (KP5rU)

I think they were on the steering column long before 4 on the floor.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:29 AM (Rz2Nc)

471 you have a much greater appreciation of speed when you have to shift the transmission all the way. you also enjoy the feel and noise more.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:29 AM (MTjB1)

472 Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 12:27 AM (Qvm+G)

Perfect.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:29 AM (90KoH)

473 do you still watch top gear? did you switch to the grand tour?

don't really care for top gear without the three that quit. not too fond of their new venture though.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:26 AM (MTjB1)


Never watched it after they all were fired/quit. I had Prime for a year but never got around to watching The Grand Tour

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:30 AM (cAnNx)

474 Tammy, it's okay, it's not great for me anyway. :-)
Better meats out there...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:30 AM (miE9U)

475 Never watched it after they all were fired/quit. I had Prime for a year but never got around to watching The Grand Tour
Posted by: buzzion at N


same, never watched it without them. the grand tour is a little too scripted. you are not missing anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:31 AM (MTjB1)

476 We don't have to hitch up horses anymore, either.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 12:27 AM (aKsyK)

All my neighbors do.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:31 AM (Rz2Nc)

477 Anybody know where I can hitch up WITH a horse??
Uh, asking for a friend...

Posted by: Lena Dunham at November 19, 2018 12:32 AM (miE9U)

478 One thing I've been snacking on a lot lately, is cheese.
It's GAINZZ friendly, right?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:32 AM (miE9U)

479 My first car was a 57 Chevy and first gear was so short you had to be quick to go up on the tree to second or the trans would be screaming. A tank.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (K22Va)

480 i'm out. good night all. be well. and, fuck paddle shifters. like soccer in a car. euroshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (KP5rU)

481 All my neighbors do.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:31 AM (Rz2Nc)

Some of mine do; we have Amish nearby. And Menonites, but they can drive as long as the vehicles are black.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (90KoH)

482 completely agree, except they are so much faster and really do reduce wear and tear on the clutch.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:28 AM (MTjB1)

I have never driven a car with paddle shifters. Do they even have a clutch? I sort of assumed they were basically an automatic transmission with torque converter, that one simply shifted manually by means of the paddles. My 2008 Suburban has a manual setting, and I can upshift and downshift by means of a little rocker on the shift lever itself. But even in manual mode, if I exceed certain RPM limits for the gears, either high or low, it will throw a shift automatically, to prevent damage to the engine or transmission.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (fDU8w)

483 469
Your average commuter vehicle, no. Some of the more specialized cars - like more expensive muscle cars - give you the option to have a manual transmission.
Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 12:29 AM (Qvm+G)


I have a Mazda 5 with a manual transmission. I think I got the very last one before they stopped making them.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2018 12:34 AM (sdi6R)

484 I have never driven a car with paddle shifters. Do they even have a clutch? I sort of assumed they were basically an automatic transmission with torque converter, that one simply shifted manually by means of the paddles. My 2008 Suburban has a manual setting, and I can upshift and downshift by means of a little rocker on the shift lever itself. But even in manual mode, if I exceed certain RPM limits for the gears, either high or low, it will throw a shift automatically, to prevent damage to the engine or transmission.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (fDU8w)

No clutch. It's similar to tiptronics. Pretty lame.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 19, 2018 12:36 AM (GBteo)

485 ...Some of mine do; we have Amish nearby. And Menonites, but they can drive as long as the vehicles are black.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (90KoH)




.... she had two Mennonite.


/justthepunchline




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2018 12:36 AM (QzJWU)

486 Some of mine do; we have Amish nearby. And Menonites, but they can drive as long as the vehicles are black.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (90KoH)

All my neighbors are Amish or Menonite, the Menonites don't seem to do the black car thing. You in PA? I'm in Holmes county Ohio.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:37 AM (Rz2Nc)

487
I have never driven a car with paddle shifters. Do they even have a clutch? I sort of assumed they were basically an automatic transmission with torque converter, that one simply shifted manually by means of the paddles. My 2008 Suburban has a manual setting, and I can upshift and downshift by means of a little rocker on the shift lever itself. But even in manual mode, if I exceed certain RPM limits for the gears, either high or low, it will throw a shift automatically, to prevent damage to the engine or transmission.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:33 AM (fDU8w)



That's what I was talking about. Though I don't think mine has an automatic shift at high thresh holds. Or if it does I've never been stupid enough to let it hit that RPM level. However it doesn't let you shift into a higher gear until you hit a certain RPM/Speed either. Like you can't go from 5th to 6th until you are like at 45 - 50 mph or so I think.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 12:38 AM (cAnNx)

488 Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:37 AM (Rz2Nc)

No, sir, I am in the Arkansas Ozarks.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:39 AM (90KoH)

489 487: in manual mode, mine will still upshift @ 6500 rpm.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 12:39 AM (KP5rU)

490 have never driven a car with paddle shifters. Do they even have a clutch? I sort of assumed they were basically an automatic transmission with torque converter, that one simply shifted manually by means of the paddles. My 2008 Suburban has a manual setting, and I can upshift and downshift by means of a little rocker on the shift lever itself. But even in manual mode, if I exceed certain RPM limits for the gears, either high or low, it will throw a shift automatically, to prevent damage to the engine or transmission.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at N


your rocker switch is the same thing different location. the rev limitations are the same too. you will not be allowed to downshift in a situation that would over rev the engine and your transmission will shift when you are accelerating to avoid over revving too.

not really necessary, mostly fun.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 12:40 AM (MTjB1)

491 Surprised this hasn't gotten more play here:

Today in a tweet, PDT called Adam Schiff "little Adam Schitt."

Someone at Qu... another site, just asked if that was intentional or not. (*eyeroll*)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:42 AM (miE9U)

492 Ahhh, being at sea . . .

1. The stars/Milky Way - like nothing you have ever seen before;

2. Sailing for a week on a sea that is smooth as glass;

3. Sailing through rough weather;

4. Seeing the horizon churn then seeing that churn get closer and closer as 50 porpoises rush to the ship to ride the bow wave . . . for miles.

5. Unrepping a carrier;

6. Re-enlisting a sailor aboard a CH-46 that is being jinked up and down and side to side during the swearing in by the really very un-funny pilot;

7. Standing on the fantail at night watching the phosphorescent sea critters churned up in the wake;

8. The smell of clean air.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2018 12:43 AM (Kge8X)

493 There are a wide variety of Mennonites, some of which are no different than any other mainstream Protestants. (Wear modern clothes, etc)

Ours moved down from Missouri (which has a large population of them and Amish) when MO made photo IDs mandatory, with no exceptions.

They have to go to Little Rock to get special paperwork, but so far Arkansas doesn't force them to get their pictures taken for ID.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:44 AM (90KoH)

494 Jim!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:44 AM (90KoH)

495 Joking with Mrs. Kim maybe we should move into an assisted living center. We both move like old folks. Life sucks. I'm 50 she's 48. We are too young to be like this. Sickness is not for the weak. Fuck, I would take her arthritis away if I could. Damn damn damn.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:45 AM (0OmEj)

496 No, sir, I am in the Arkansas Ozarks.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:39 AM (90KoH)

Oh, wow, how nice. Any chance you're near beaver lake?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:46 AM (Rz2Nc)

497 I think they were on the steering column long before 4 on the floor.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:29 AM (Rz2Nc)

They were all on the floor up until circa 1940. But not the little short stick we see now. A long skinny one that went directly into the top of the gearbox. Mostly three speeds, but some four, like on Euro cars.

Then someone had the bright idea to put the shifter on the steering column, making the middle seating position on the bench front seat a lot more useful. The transmission got two short levers on the side, operated by linkage rods from the base of the steering column. Adoption of this happened over a 2-3 year span, IIRC. Most transmissions were still 3 speeds, and the same "H" pattern was used; its orientation just changed. There were a few 4-speed column shifters, too, but not many.

The muscle-car era made floor shifters a thing again, but they did not revert to the long lever in the top of the box; they had a short lever, mounted on a support further back, and connected by short linkage rods to those selfsame two or three levers on the side of the tranny case.

And Japanese and Euro cars used what was called a "remote" shifter. The lever sat in a socket at the rear of the transmission, and worked internal linkage rods that acted on the top of the gearset under the front portion of the gearbox cover. Datsun and Toyota, and practically any pickup made today with a manual shift.

Front-drive cars nearly all had remote shifters of some sort, owing to where the parts have to be.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:47 AM (fDU8w)

498 Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:45 AM (0OmEj)

Has she tried tumeric? It is by no means any kind of miracle cure, but I do think it brings a little relief, and every little bit does help.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:47 AM (90KoH)

499 The purpose of an insurance company is to maximize earnings for its owners/shareholders

Just like any other company.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Exactly.

It's just weird that for some reason people don't realize this about insurance companies.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2018 12:47 AM (Kge8X)

500 Just wanted to let everyone know:

I really enjoy being in the top ten of commenters every week, so I've designed a bot that will post a generic message signed 'qdpsteve' for me every couple hours when I can't be here. Here's the message:

"Question at Quora! Question at Quora! Pantyhose! Pantyhose! Defeat the Dems! Why don't women like me???"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:48 AM (miE9U)

501 Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:46 AM (Rz2Nc)

Yes!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:49 AM (90KoH)

502 Night all. Recoil dreams for the horde!
Sweet sweet recoil dreams.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 19, 2018 12:51 AM (0OmEj)

503 Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:48 AM (miE9U)

LOL!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:52 AM (90KoH)

504 Guns, Memes, and Societal Ills

https://youtu.be/p3rDfErT4l0

I like the cut of his jib.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 19, 2018 12:52 AM (rnAwa)

505 There are a wide variety of Mennonites, some of which are no different than any other mainstream Protestants. (Wear modern clothes, etc)

Ours moved down from Missouri (which has a large population of them and Amish) when MO made photo IDs mandatory, with no exceptions.

They have to go to Little Rock to get special paperwork, but so far Arkansas doesn't force them to get their pictures taken for ID.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 12:44 AM (90KoH)

That makes sense. My mother lives in MO. Both my parents are from there. Most of my neighbors are Old Order Amish with some Swartzentrouper mixed in. I'm certain I spelled that wrong.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:53 AM (Rz2Nc)

506 ...And I just got a note from MisHum that he's already proactively banned my bot. Oh well!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:55 AM (miE9U)

507 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:47 AM (fDU8w)

Thanks, I know when I learned to drive the shifter was on the steers no wheel shaft in the driving simulation class. .

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 12:57 AM (Rz2Nc)

508 Well, I am going to call it a night. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2018 12:59 AM (fDU8w)

509 I've bartended now for just over 25 years.

It's s weird profession, because generally you get people from all walks that have drinks and then tell you things that no person would share in their right mind.

For years I've observed the steady, incremental downward slide of humanity, but lately it is just starting to weigh heavily on me. I'm used to hearing gripes from people about ex-wives, child-support, cheating husbands, asshole bosses and the like. But lately I can't help but notice the absolute degineration of society.

I used to have the occasional oddball, be it drug addict, dumb slut, weirdo cross-dresser, etc, that came in, I'd endure the visit, and then I'd sit around with the regulars and we'd laugh about "that one time".

But what do you do when there are more weird fuckers than you have normal human beings? What happens when the world is full of people that have no shame?

Tonight at the bar I had two it-thing shemales with everything peirced and dressed as dudes talking about eating pussy, I had some girl telling me about how she used to be a stripper, but had to move out of Texas away from her kids to dodge meth charges and hooked up with a methadone addict here in Tennessee and had a kid, but he was shot and killed in a drug deal so she had herself tattted to commemorate him. She told me about her plan to beat a drug test so that she could get visitation with her 4 year old son, who was being raised by her grandparents.

I had some millennial with a curly-Q mustache yapping about craft beer, yoga, organic colon cleansing and tiny houses.

It occurred to me that I had no normal person to laugh at these people with. This is the new normal. And the next generation is going to grow up with this not as the occasional horror story, but as the common place reality. How fucked up are their kids going to be. That shit can't be good.

It's f*cked. It's well and truly f*cked and it's highly depressing. I don't know that I hold any hope for the world my daughter will have to live in with weird, f*cked up, arrested development, Peter-f*cking-Pan non-human f*cktards she is gonna have to share society with.

Jesus. The Lord can not come back soon enough to this degenerate, confused, sick-ass world to straighten sh*t out. If He doesn't, we are all and truly screwed.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:03 AM (x591V)

510 We have the Swartzentruber (?) down here, as well, I think.

Great neighbors, though I feel they could feed their livestock better!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 01:06 AM (90KoH)

511 Thank you all for allowing me to vent.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:07 AM (x591V)

512 When I was a kid, learning how to drive a manual transmission was the only way you could drive a car. Radio, heater, whitewalls were extra.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 01:09 AM (K22Va)

513 When I was a kid, learning how to drive a manual transmission was the only way you could drive a car. Radio, heater, whitewalls were extra.
Posted by: dartist at N




you must have been glad when they put the floor in and you could quit using your feet.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 01:10 AM (MTjB1)

514 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:03 AM (x591V)

I'm hoping for a bit of a backlash from the freaks. I am technically a Boomer, but at the very tail end and I grew up with a burning hatred and revulsion for hippies.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 01:11 AM (90KoH)

515 We'll be ok people. Hang tough.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 01:12 AM (K22Va)

516 We have the Swartzentruber (?) down here, as well, I think.

Great neighbors, though I feel they could feed their livestock better!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 01:06 AM (90KoH)

I would imagine you do. Livestock here seems to be taken care of.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 01:13 AM (Rz2Nc)

517 Bitter Clinger.

We oughta open a bar down here 'round Galveston.

Shot n' beer kinda place. Jukebox with traditional country, Rock, Blues and such.

Small dance floor, live bands on Fridays n' Saturdays.

Smoke 'em if you've got 'em, but they can't be pot.

We'll call it "Norm's".

No, not as in "Cheers".

But, NORMALS.

This bar is for normals. If you come in because you were stapled to the chicken, you need to leave, now.

Bet'cha it'd be a success.

But, oh.... one thing.

You'd have to teach me how to mix a drink more complex than "bourbon, neat", and fast, too!

*pours bourbon*




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2018 01:14 AM (QzJWU)

518 I don't meant that the freaks themselves will backlash, but that the young kids watching the shit-show will be repulsed by it and turn back into warriors and fire-breathing Conservatives like my brothers and I did..

I am so sleepy, I am not making sense. Good night, y'all!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 19, 2018 01:15 AM (90KoH)

519 you must have been glad when they put the floor in and you could quit using your feet.

Oh, Flintstone racist!

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 01:15 AM (K22Va)

520 Thank you all for allowing me to vent.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:07 AM (x591V)

No problem. I assume you work in a city.
All I can say is kids are being made here as fast as possible. Maybe some day they will realize they need to vote.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 19, 2018 01:16 AM (Rz2Nc)

521 Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2018 01:14 AM (QzJWU)

Jim,

That's brilliant.

Don't worry about the training, your recipes are already on point. If it's good bourbon, it needs nothing other than an ice cube.

I could've ranted further. I had what would have been a perfectly beautiful young lady in as well that decided it was necessary to pierce her nose, eyebrow, and put those shower curtain grommets in her ears. She ordered a "Witches Brew" from me, which I'd never heard of.

She informed me it consisted of Patron XO coffee flavored tequila, Diet Coke and 5 lime wedges.

Really? This is what it's come too? I've spent this many years behind the bar to make that drink?

No Jim, I'll take that bourbon neat, thank you.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:23 AM (x591V)

522 just got thru watching betrayal. he knew nixon was a crook I didn't know he was a traitor too! listening to the johnson library secret tapes where nixon is committing treason with south vietnam most enlightening. 1968 wasn't the only election where treason occurred. their doing the next one on bill caseys deal with iran to hold the hostage to win the 1980 election. the start of iran contra.

Posted by: ramondo at November 19, 2018 01:26 AM (NNZVe)

523 ramondo

Just about covers it all. 522

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2018 01:29 AM (K22Va)

524 Bitter Clinger.

On the very upper end of that scale, dig into what local talk-radio host Michael Berry has done with his "Redneck Country Club" format.

https://theredneckcountryclub.com/


I'm thinking more along the lines of the Fire Marshall calling it a day at 'bout 120 in attendance. Not ten times that number.

But, he's got some of the essentials right, and it's been a roaring success, from the start.

Pity, I don't have a cent of free capital to fund such a project.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2018 01:30 AM (QzJWU)

525 @509 Jesus. The Lord can not come back soon enough to this degenerate, confused, sick-ass world to straighten sh*t out. If He doesn't, we are all and truly screwed.
------------------

Jeremiah was the topic of discussion today in my Sunday School class. And you can't talk about Jeremiah without talking about Babylon. Or, as the Bible sometimes refers to her, "The Whore of All The Earth". The person teaching the class read a few choice quotes about Babylon, and how it gained that particular appellation.

We're pretty much there. And some parts of the country (I'm looking at *you*, San Francisco) are way past it.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 01:37 AM (Qvm+G)

526 Jim-

Now that looks like my kinda place.... especially that crawfish boil. Love them mud bugs.

Ted Cruz rally there tells me they got their head in the right place on politics too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:43 AM (x591V)

527 We're pretty much there. And some parts of the country (I'm looking at *you*, San Francisco) are way past it.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 01:37 AM (Qvm+G)

Amen.

Gonna sign off for the night.

The Horde is the best, blessing on all your houses and may the Lord look down on all of you with extreme favor. That is my prayer for you good folk.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:47 AM (x591V)

528 350 Some jackass made a video with a much better way to theft-proof your car: https://tinyurl.com/ya2mqnlj
MAxIE approved!!!

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at November 19, 2018 01:55 AM (9TR2V)

529 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat. Here comes Thanksgiving Week...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 02:07 AM (miE9U)

530 Surprised this hasn't gotten more play here:

Today in a tweet, PDT called Adam Schiff "little Adam Schitt."

Someone at Qu... another site, just asked if that was intentional or not. (*eyeroll*)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 12:42 AM (miE9U)

I bet it was autocorrect, sort of like how my phone used to change "Andrew Gillum" to "Andrew Gollum" whether I wanted it to or not.

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 19, 2018 02:19 AM (m2bLi)

531 We are doomed.

Posted by: Robert Ferguson at November 19, 2018 02:40 AM (/ynHD)

532 0900 VA MD appointment in the daylight.

with luck, i'll get seen elevinish....by some youngster who will know nothing about my case or history, and whom i will never see again.

because they just don't GAF at the LA VA...

#basta!

hasta, y'all!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2018 02:55 AM (Dagiw)

533 What a lovely, rich ONT. Thanks, MisHum!

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 03:15 AM (5k7/f)

534 ConservaTwitter comparing AOC to Trump, because both are politicians mocked by the other side -- so we should take her seriously, because Trump won too.

Pbbbbt.

Trump actually had a resume before running. AFAIK, she's just winner of the Hot Girl lottery who wants to give stuff away.

That would make her the Game Show Girl Of Congress.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at November 19, 2018 03:46 AM (vr3wn)

535 That would make her the Game Show Girl Of Congress.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at November 19, 2018 03:46 AM (vr3wn)


Occasional-Cortex couldn't do Vanna White's job.

Posted by: RickZ at November 19, 2018 04:26 AM (Y8PSl)

536 535 That would make her the Game Show Girl Of Congress.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at November 19, 2018 03:46 AM (vr3wn)

Occasional-Cortex couldn't do Vanna White's job.

Posted by: RickZ at November 19, 2018 04:26 AM (Y8PSl)



She could replace the horse that counts with its hoof.


Oh wait, she's a socialist, she can't count.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 04:47 AM (cAnNx)

537 Up numerous times during night. But up for good now.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 04:50 AM (6VrXf)

538 What Leftist game show would be fair? Everyone would win, well based on race gender class.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 04:55 AM (6VrXf)

539 pjmedia - florida school orders male teacher to watch transgender girl undress in-the boys locker room
https://tinyurl.com/ybqhowuf
Its getting bizarre out there

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:00 AM (6VrXf)

540 Hey Skip!

What's for breakfast?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2018 05:01 AM (wYseH)

541 Got sausage patty for egg cheese English muffin and instant oatmeal. I'm hungry

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:11 AM (6VrXf)

542 >>>511 Thank you all for allowing me to vent.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 19, 2018 01:07 AM (x591V)

Thank you for the story. It's a wonderful story; painful, but your insight is appreciated.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:15 AM (5k7/f)

543 Maybe should have broken up the sausage fried it and mixed into egg. Maybe tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:21 AM (6VrXf)

544 Skip, now I'm hungry.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:22 AM (hyuyC)

545 517 >>>This bar is for normals. If you come in because you were stapled to the chicken, you need to leave, now.

What does that mean, "stapled to the chicken"?

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:23 AM (5k7/f)

546 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:23 AM (hyuyC)

547 Up early because of a bad cold. Can't sleep well while coughing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:25 AM (hyuyC)

548 Holy shit, just did a quick calc on those French gas prices.

Gas costs $6.50 a gallon which is massively taxed because the current barrel price for petroleum is $0.92 a gallon.

It would cost $65 to fill up an econo box and $110 to fill up the average SUV.


I fill up roughly 4-5 times a month, so my costs would be $260-325 per month.


No wonder they are rioting.

I see Guiateen futures soaring in France.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2018 05:26 AM (qxq6t)

549 Fluffy sausage gravy smothering hash browns/onion/cheesr & biscuits is good this time of year. It's 13° here. A couple runny yolk eggs, a splash of hot sauce, buttered toast, and strong hot coffee.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:26 AM (WOjjq)

550 548 >>>I see Guiateen futures soaring in France.

-->guillotine

Took me a minute!

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:27 AM (5k7/f)

551 Or $227.5 to fill my truck

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:29 AM (6VrXf)

552 It seems governments are subject to human nature in a big way. They will raise taxes to the point of collapse, or print funny money till the currency collapses, whichever comes first I guess.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:30 AM (WOjjq)

553 Its like I went to McD's and didn't have to leave home.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:31 AM (6VrXf)

554 World-wide, the elites do not seem to care about the people they deem beneath them, which seems to be most of their society.

Very odd, and short-sighted.

I tell my students "Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:32 AM (hyuyC)

555 >>>541 Got sausage patty for egg cheese English muffin and instant oatmeal. I'm hungry
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:11 AM (6VrXf)

This reminds me I need to pick up American cheese slices at the store. And now, maybe English muffins.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:33 AM (5k7/f)

556 Letting Chillstep Mix 2018 wash over me. Quite calming synth-pop music.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:34 AM (hyuyC)

557 Morning all.

I'd love a big hunk of CBD's sourdough bread and a big slab of dry Monterey jack cheese for breakfast.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 05:34 AM (AtaaG)

558
A judge affirmed his order Friday to evict Michael Avenatti's law firm from a California office building for skipping out on $213,000 in rent over four months.

/ what a dumbass

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 19, 2018 05:36 AM (e7O7B)

559 557 Morning all.

I'd love a big hunk of CBD's sourdough bread and a big slab of dry Monterey jack cheese for breakfast.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 05:34 AM (AtaaG)

Maybe you and Skip could be in charge of the breakfast menu at Jim's bar:

517 Bitter Clinger.

We oughta open a bar down here 'round Galveston.

Shot n' beer kinda place. Jukebox with traditional country, Rock, Blues and such.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:37 AM (5k7/f)

560 That's to go along with the scrambled eggs with fried salami in them.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 05:38 AM (AtaaG)

561 The key to a good english muffin is they need to be well browned almost crispy. It's not a bread substitute, McD's doesn't understand that. And then lots of butter. They forgot that too.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:39 AM (WOjjq)

562 @551

And the even crazier thing is countries like Norway have even higher gas prices, nearly $8 a gallon in Norway.


We get all cranky pants when gas goes much above $2 a gallon, politicians would be dragged from their homes and beaten if gas prices taxed to those staggering heights.


That may be what eventually goes down in France.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2018 05:39 AM (qxq6t)

563 Ben Had

Top o ta morning to ya.

*Makes note of your breakfast desires*

Sends Monterey Jack slab to your usb port. Some molecular assembly may be required with your replicator.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:40 AM (hyuyC)

564 54 1/4 A Day? i need to get out more

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:41 AM (6VrXf)

565 Norm's bar would feature steak and eggs.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 05:42 AM (AtaaG)

566 I always double toast English muffins, i like golden brown tasty goodness.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:43 AM (6VrXf)

567 Skip, AoSHQ is addictive.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:43 AM (hyuyC)

568 564 54 1/4 A Day? i need to get out more
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:41 AM (6VrXf)

We were entertained! 54 3/4:

#1 [390 comments] 'Skip' [54.75 posts/day]

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:44 AM (5k7/f)

569 565 Norm's bar would feature steak and eggs.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 05:42 AM (AtaaG)

And rotating specials.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:45 AM (5k7/f)

570 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:45 AM (cqNba)

571 My husband-who is a huge fan of the Beatles- laughed at the quote by Ringo Starr. I think Ringo is underrated. He got presented as the goofy, dumb drummer when he was actually smart All that time being sick and on his own as a kid probably made him reflective.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 05:45 AM (AllCR)

572 So she is riding off into the sunset....



https://tinyurl.com/yb96u7ws

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:46 AM (cqNba)

573 NaCly , I would like your input on the Civics 101 class that I am going to hold starting after the first of the year.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 05:47 AM (AtaaG)

574 >>>572 So she is riding off into the sunset....

https://tinyurl.com/yb96u7ws
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:46 AM (cqNba)

I had hoped it was Hillary!.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 05:47 AM (5k7/f)

575 40 degrees in ETEX! Put another log on the fire and drink your cofveve, mukluk up and mush.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2018 05:47 AM (zLDYs)

576 The fast food model doesn't pencil out for me anymore. It is still convenient, sort of, but it's not fast anymore, and not particularly tasty, and is kind of expensive for what you get. And then there's the surly, beligerantly ignorant employees. No thanks.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:47 AM (WOjjq)

577 israellycool.com - us series s-w-a-t demonizes jews and israelis
https://tinyurl.com/yaagsot6
Never saw this program and probably never will.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:48 AM (6VrXf)

578 Ben Had

As you wish, Ben Had. Let me know what you want. I was quizmaster on our Constitution Bee efforts, so that is a strength. I knew a lot about how things worked or did not work in DC, but let's leave out that cynicism.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:49 AM (hyuyC)

579 I believe Mr. Starr said "Everything government touches turns to shit." He's still a lefty douche I'd wager. Nowhere near the asshattery of some of the other lads perhaps.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:50 AM (WOjjq)

580 "And then there's the surly, beligerantly ignorant employees. No thanks."

Try Chick-fil-A.


Somehow, I have never met a rude employee at one.

Always polite and helpful.

As if they hire from another planet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:51 AM (cqNba)

581 Village Idiot's Apprentice

When I get a chance, I'll tell you about my time window. Is lunch a good plan, or do you need a wingman for something?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:51 AM (hyuyC)

582 "Christ was always among men giving out something, never once going among men to get something.....This is the mind of Christ and Christ would have his followers take his mind and live by that mind....We too have something to do, something to give, a cheery word, a pleasant expression, something that gives cheer and hope to those in sadness and sorrow. Living by his mind is our business."

Dr. Henry Foster (died 1902)
From the book "Life Lessons"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 05:51 AM (AllCR)

583 I believe Mr. Starr said "Everything government touches turns to shit." He's still a lefty douche I'd wager. Nowhere near the asshattery of some of the other lads perhaps.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:50 AM


♫ Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman♫

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 19, 2018 05:53 AM (e7O7B)

584 20 ℉ here.

That guy that said "Winter is coming." wasn't kidding. Three snowfalls so far.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:53 AM (hyuyC)

585 Buy say a hundred yankee dollars groceries at Brookshires grocery and get a dime off per gallon at their pump. Mrs. E and I have gotten as much as 60 cents off around this time of year with holidays meals etc.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2018 05:54 AM (zLDYs)

586
Somehow, I have never met a rude employee at one.
Always polite and helpful.
As if they hire from another planet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:51 AM


I know a chef who was making nice coin who took a cut in pay to work for them. Reason? He wanted to go to church on Sunday with his family.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 19, 2018 05:55 AM (e7O7B)

587 " Is lunch a good plan, or do you need a wingman for something?"

Lines are often long, yet move remarkably fast.

Drive thru is the same way with double lanes and a very efficient through-put of vehicles.

Inside, they will take your order, give you a stand-up thingy with a number for you to put on the end of your table.

And your seat, put your numbered things were they can see it.

Relax.

Your food will be brought to you shortly.


And the Ap makes it even easier if you want to order ahead.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:55 AM (cqNba)

588 VIA: I've been meaning to try. Chic-F-A even has a good app for smartphones. I should have been more careful about dissing fast food places. I am referring to the larger corporations who were the model of efficiency and value at one time. I've sworn them off. They lost the plot somewhere along the way. I don't need or want fancy goat cheese salads, just a good burger and fries. They screwed that up too.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 05:56 AM (WOjjq)

589 Only going to be high of 32 here Thursday

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:59 AM (6VrXf)

590 I had a visitor from the UK recently, who couldn't believe the gas prices here in the USA, gas is so cheap.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:03 AM (Yt3le)

591 VIA, I hear you are getting a new Police Commissioner from TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2018 06:04 AM (AtaaG)

592
Only going to be high of 32 here Thursday

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:59 AM (6VrXf)


Just a couple of days ago I looked at the temp for Thanksgiving and it was going to be 45. Looking this morning, its says 30........

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:05 AM (Yt3le)

593
When Bill Clinton and the Senate Rino's went along with his shitty trade deals and the shiv got stuck in the back of manufacturing jobs, millions of Americans lost their Monday through Friday jobs and landed smack dab in the service industry working 'flexible' hours. Which often meant seven fvcking days a week.

It's nice that Chic-F-A gives their employees at least one day of the weekend off.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 19, 2018 06:05 AM (e7O7B)

594 It's not that the gasoline is "cheap", it's that fuel taxes are outrageous in those countries. This directly impacts the price of everything else. Every thing. The current crop of young folk have been worked over so much there are basic business concepts, the law of supply and demand, they have no idea of what they speak. They just regurgitate lefty talking points and thought ending cliches. It's maddening.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2018 06:07 AM (WOjjq)

595
589 Only going to be high of 32 here Thursday
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:59 AM (6VrXf)


A high temperature of 28 degrees Fahrenheit is forecast for the northern Delmarva Peninsula on Thursday. Oh, joy! Rapture!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2018 06:07 AM (pNxlR)

596 Only going to be high of 32 here Thursday

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 05:59 AM


Twenty degrees BELOW average high for the Philly area.

Handy little Philly area temp chart here:
http://www.stormfax.com/phlminmax2.html

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 19, 2018 06:08 AM (e7O7B)

597 Just a couple of days ago I looked at the temp for Thanksgiving and it was going to be 45. Looking this morning, its says 30........
Posted by: Colin

It's all your fault! QUIT LOOKING!!!

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:08 AM (8ikIW)

598 Do you think the fires in California wiped out all the pols hard work trying to keep the air clean by shutting down the nearby power plant....Now we have to get power from Quebec or some such place far, far away.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:08 AM (Yt3le)

599 . . . 600

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 06:10 AM (5k7/f)

600 600!

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 06:10 AM (5k7/f)

601 Handy little Philly area temp chart here:
http://www.stormfax.com/phlminmax2.html
Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly

Interesting how far back the temps go. I've looked at the Weather Underground record temps, and they seem to not go back farther than 1980.

Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:11 AM (8ikIW)

602
Do you think the fires in California wiped out all the pols hard work trying to keep the air clean by shutting down the nearby power plant....Now we have to get power from Quebec or some such place far, far away.
Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:08 AM (Yt3le)


California is a colonial state. Keep the filthy, messy, nature harming infrastructures outside our borders. Hail, Gaia!

Fine, do that. The demolition of your dams in the Sierra Nevada Mountains will take place, when, Gaia lovers?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2018 06:13 AM (pNxlR)

603
Good Morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2018 06:14 AM (LsBY9)

604 Interesting how far back the temps go. I've looked at the Weather Underground record temps, and they seem to not go back farther than 1980.

Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:11 AM


They don't want you to see the record high temperatures of more than a century ago. They're fully vested in the Global Warming scam.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 19, 2018 06:15 AM (e7O7B)

605 The local college has a meteorological section, teaching students to be weather people. (and how to be a TV weather person, I'd bet)) Their records go back to 1880, still recent as far as records go.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:16 AM (Yt3le)

606 Good Morning Glories!

It's Thanksgiving week and the start of the shopping season.

Wal-mart was a zoo this week-end.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2018 06:18 AM (dczB+)

607 547 Up early because of a bad cold. Can't sleep well while coughing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:25 AM (hyuyC)


Yeah, me too.

The coughing fits suck.

And just in time for Thanksgiving. .

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2018 06:18 AM (UsCnO)

608 547 Up early because of a bad cold. Can't sleep well while coughing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 05:25 AM (hyuyC)

I'm saving up my days off in case I get the flu again.
Even a bad case of bronchitis can lay you up for a few days.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2018 06:20 AM (dczB+)

609 Their records go back to 1880, still recent as far as records go.
Posted by: Colin

When the Globull warming people point out that if it's a real cold day or week, they say it's weather, not climate.

Okay, how far back are you taking those climate models then? 20 years? The earth is how old?

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:20 AM (8ikIW)

610 572 So she is riding off into the sunset....



https://tinyurl.com/yb96u7ws
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 05:46 AM (cqNba)

after she stole the ag commissioners election

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:20 AM (JFO2v)

611 LeftCoast Dawg

Get well soon.

I tried a massage me cure request, but my wife said no dice. Now she thinks I can do more chores, since I'm not that sick.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 06:21 AM (hyuyC)

612
The earth is how old?

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:20 AM (8ikIW)


Created at 6:00 PM on October 22, 4004 BC.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2018 06:24 AM (LsBY9)

613 ALH

Have not missed work. It's everything else I missed.

I should be immune, since I've been exposed to the disease reservoir in America, public schools, for a while. And I get a flu shot and wash my hands. Sigh.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 06:24 AM (hyuyC)

614 @609
About 4.5 billion years old.
But twenty years of spotty and massaged "data collection" is sufficient to prove GLOWBULL CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2018 06:25 AM (qxq6t)

615 The story goes Ben Franklin took daily meteorological readings in the area that is now the Philadelphia airport so thats were they alway are taken. I have looked on line and found records of snow fall and know for a fact now got my first bike Christmas 1966 because of a snow storm that came Christmas eve.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 06:27 AM (6VrXf)

616 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 06:27 AM (2El4P)

617 @610
Yep and hoping the typical GOP sop is "Let's come together and heal!" and let bygones be bygones and then let this breathtaking corruption and criminality skate and get hosed by it further down the line.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2018 06:27 AM (qxq6t)

618 "VIA, I hear you are getting a new Police Commissioner from TX."

That is the rumor on the streets, yes.

Police Commissioner in Baltimore is sort of like being #1 in Al Qaeda.

Both have a target on their back.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 06:28 AM (cqNba)

619 To stop coughing, try a spoonful of raw honey, the darker and thicker, the better. It really works.

And get a humidifier for your bedroom - inexpensive is fine. Use it every night and clean it regularly. It's amazing how much it helps. I started doing that a few years ago, as soon as we turn the heat on, and I've very rarely gotten sick.

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2018 06:28 AM (U5tDi)

620 I've actually been to that Tazaundaing festival in Myanmar. Pretty cool, but we stayed well out of the way in a viewing stand, and still ended up moving because the wind changed. It's especially dangerous for the people launching the balloons, and yes, there was a bad accident the year I was there (but not the night I went).

Posted by: Meh at November 19, 2018 06:29 AM (9zmxg)

621 Got to head down that short road,have a great day everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 06:30 AM (6VrXf)

622 Have a great day everyone.

May every traffic light turn green as you approach.

I've been telling the GOP politicians I know for years to cheat in elections. It is the only way to fix the problem. When the Left loses, they will work to fix it. They all discount cheating as beneath them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2018 06:31 AM (hyuyC)

623 Speaking of GW, didn't Florida just declare Gore the winner...after many, many recounts.../sarc

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:32 AM (Yt3le)

624 Has the "Evening with the Shysters, I Mean Clintons" started its world tour yet?
I looked at the venue in Toronto, (Toronto?) for Nov 27th, and it seems as if they invited a lot of empty seats

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:32 AM (8ikIW)

625 Morning Hordelings

Posted by: wing at November 19, 2018 06:32 AM (JFzNN)

626 G'morning from the Central Time Zone

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 19, 2018 06:38 AM (boNFp)

627 With all of the pre Black Friday sales going on since Halloween, are prices really really going to be cheaper this Friday?

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:38 AM (8ikIW)

628 Test

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2018 06:40 AM (bim/x)

629 Morning all

Now it lets me post

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2018 06:41 AM (bim/x)

630 With the effects of man made global warming all of the pre Black Friday sales going on since Halloween, a year long fire season, and the end of snowfall as we know it be the new normal are prices really really going to be cheaper this Friday?

*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2018 06:44 AM (cqNba)

631 Every store is in on the "early" Black Friday sales now. They are probably only having sales on a few items, since they have had Black Friday prices for awhile now. The "loss leader" stuff.....16 dollar printers as such.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:46 AM (Yt3le)

632 Every store is in on the "early" Black Friday sales now. They are probably only having sales on a few items, since they have had Black Friday prices for awhile now. The "loss leader" stuff.....16 dollar printers as such.
Posted by: Colin

I just checked my emails. I have one from Amazon about the Black Friday Week Sales.
I'm sure next week will be a Remember Black Friday? Week Sale

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:49 AM (8ikIW)

633 Walmart, the place to be on Friday early, trying to hold back the mob trying to get those 99 dollar TV's.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 06:49 AM (Yt3le)

634 wonder how this will work out?

New York entrepreneur and Democratic 2020 candidate Andrew Yang wants to implement a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with digital social credits (DSCs) for good behavior.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:53 AM (JFO2v)

635 wonder how this will work out?

New York entrepreneur and Democratic 2020 candidate Andrew Yang wants to implement a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with digital social credits (DSCs) for good behavior.
Posted by: rhennigantx


It will last until he realizes that all the credits are going to law abiding Republicans.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 06:54 AM (2El4P)

636 Quick Trip Corp. will now spread concealed carry to employees after Kansas stores showed the way.
And local premium gas in Cowtown at the QT is 2.47/g.

Posted by: John Doe at November 19, 2018 06:54 AM (WX+x0)

637 New York entrepreneur and Democratic 2020 candidate Andrew Yang wants to implement a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with digital social credits (DSCs) for good behavior.
Posted by: rhennigantx

I hope it's like airline frequent flyer miles and I can buy credits if I've been bad.
We could call those Indulgences!

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:55 AM (8ikIW)

638 Every store is in on the "early" Black Friday sales now. They are probably only having sales on a few items, since they have had Black Friday prices for awhile now. The "loss leader" stuff.....16 dollar printers as such.
Posted by: Colin

I just checked my emails. I have one from Amazon about the Black Friday Week Sales.
I'm sure next week will be a Remember Black Friday? Week Sale
Posted by: Bruce


Pre-Halloween Black Friday Sale.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 06:55 AM (2El4P)

639 In the last few days something strange has happened to your board.
It now takes over 210 megabytes of data just to load the home page.

Posted by: gaines Wright at November 19, 2018 06:56 AM (uTe/t)

640 Mouse body count in my house stands at 4 this morning. They are getting in through the dryer vent. We did not have this many last year.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2018 06:56 AM (JUOKG)

641 636 Quick Trip Corp. will now spread concealed carry to employees after Kansas stores showed the way.
And local premium gas in Cowtown at the QT is 2.47/g.
Posted by: John Doe at November 19, 2018 06:54 AM (WX+x0)

I saw 2.15 yesterday

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:57 AM (JFO2v)

642 Quick Trip Corp. will now spread concealed carry to employees after Kansas stores showed the way.
And local premium gas in Cowtown at the QT is 2.47/g.
Posted by: John Doe


Highway robbery. I'm regularly seeing $2.16. Saw $1.99 at a Wal Mart in Frisco/Plano.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 06:57 AM (2El4P)

643 I hope it's like airline frequent flyer miles and I can buy credits if I've been bad.
We could call those Indulgences!
Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:55 AM (8ikIW)

Do you get point for do or not doing?

Like how many points for NOT sticking your dick in crazy?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:58 AM (JFO2v)

644 I hope it's like airline frequent flyer miles and I can buy credits if I've been bad.
We could call those Indulgences!
Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2018 06:55 AM (8ikIW)

Do you get point for do or not doing?

Like how many points for NOT sticking your dick in crazy?
Posted by: rhennigantx


And define "good behavior".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 06:59 AM (2El4P)

645 Highway robbery. I'm regularly seeing $2.16. Saw $1.99 at a Wal Mart in Frisco/Plano.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 06:57 AM (2El4P)


2 years ago it was 1.99 at the local Speedway, at this time of year, and that is in upstate NY, not noted for low prices. Its 2.59 this am.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2018 07:00 AM (Yt3le)

646 I've been telling the GOP politicians I know for years to cheat in elections. It is the only way to fix the problem.

You do know that there is a Double Standard.

Compare and contrast when a D does something sinful. Say, like molest an intern in oval office or actually rape someone, The Party and the Enemedia (birm) treat it as a non-event. If it gets play, its only through alternative news methods. In fact, when the sexual deviancy bled into other areas and an investigation on suborning perjury, The Party believed that misdirection away from the perjury to the sex was the best media play. That is, adultery, molestation and rape charges are better than a perjury charge in the eye of the public.

Compare to Larry Craig who was hounded out of his Senate office over having a "wide stance" in an airport restroom.

Tom Price is condemned and chased out of office for his charter flights on small business jets, yet no one cares about Nancy Pelosi when she routinely has huge drunken orgies aboard tax payer funded C-32 (aka Boeing 757) because she can't be inconvenienced with having to make a fuel stop in fly-over-country on her repeated trips between DC and her district.

The point being, the GOP can't cheat or even give the appearance of cheating (e.g. actually win) because:
1) The Enemedia will run 24/7 coverage until the "cheater" is not only run out of office, but is thrown in prison with everyone else who might have been nearby.
2) The Party itself will lead in throwing the alleged cheater under the bus, and will make all kinds of reconciliary efforts to award the offended party by vowing now to compete in that race for the next ten terms.
3) Anyone involved in that effort (consultants, pollsters, etc.) will never find work in the GOP again (but will gladly work for the opposition)
4) Will accept the charge that ALL GOP politicians cheat and will thus lay down and accept as a Party many of the demands levied upon them by the opposing party.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 19, 2018 07:01 AM (boNFp)

647 Is the Snipe Hunt called off?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2018 07:02 AM (bim/x)

Gun Thread: It Just Blowed Up! [Weasel]

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No worries - That'll buff out!

When it comes to ruining your day, this is a pretty effective way to do it.

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Just Some Honest Holster Wear


Today let's talk about getting a bigger bang than expected. Or a smaller bang than expected. Or pretty much any sort of bang other than expected.

Squib Loads and Barrel Blockages
Over the years, I have reloaded a lot of handgun and rifle ammunition, and have had a squib load block the barrel exactly once. When I pulled the trigger, I could tell the recoil and sound were completely wrong and fortunately didn't pull the trigger again. After making the gun safe I took a peek and could see the bullet resting peacefully about 1/4 inch from the end of the barrel just waiting to cause a disaster. Ruh Roh!

What had happened is this; I was load testing and measuring muzzle velocity in a series of cartridges with decreasing powder charges, and although still above the published minimum, this particular round didn't make it out of the barrel. Muzzle velocity = 0 feet per second. Test concluded.

And it can happen with commercial ammunition, too!

There are a couple of lessons here. First, pay attention to what the hell is going on while you're shooting. It is possible to become so focused on the target, and looking good for the range babes, that you lose sight of everything else. If something jams, or breaks, or sounds and feels different, stop pulling the trigger and investigate. If you're a new shooter and not quite sure what to do, put the gun down (pointed in a safe direction!!) and call over the RSO. Explain what you think is going on and let them help you. Second, be very careful when reloading. Things can go wrong even when you haven't done anything overtly retarded. I was trying to find a lower velocity accuracy node and while I was technically above the minimum published load, apparently the bullet didn't get the memo. If I hadn't realized what had happened, I could have turned an annoyance (tapping the bullet out later) into a big mess - ruining the barrel of a nice revolver, or worse.


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How is This Even Possible?


Here's an extremely lucky cat who just used up eleven lives and is fortunate to have only ruined a barrel. Hands and fingers and eyeballs are much more difficult to replace. Did someone really pull the trigger that many times, even stopping to reload the gun, without realizing something was wrong?


And speaking of reloading...

Big Reloading No-No: Double Charge or Wrong Powder
Reloading can be fun and a rewarding part of shooting. For competitive shooters it can be a necessity, and for normal people it can be an economical way to shoot more and not be totally dependent on retail ammunition supply. It can also turn a fun day at the range into a complete nightmare if you are not absolutely focused on the job at hand while at the reloading bench. I'm pretty cautious by nature, and even more so while I'm reloading. Just as there are safety rules to follow while handling firearms, some must also be followed while reloading.

First, I allow zero distractions. Realizing my limited mental faculties do not permit me to do even two simple things at once, I don't watch TV or listen to the radio while I'm reloading. I don't even want anyone talking to me while I'm at the reloading bench, and will stop what I'm doing if a distraction presents itself. I pause at each step and check my work.


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Can you Tell a Difference?


The biggest potential for excitement relates to powder. When I started reloading I was surprised to learn there are literally hundreds of types of gunpowder all burning at different rates. The unit of measure for gunpowder is the grain (gr) which is equal to 1/7000th of a pound. In some cases, a safe load can become unsafe when it varies by as little as a few tenths of one grain, so imagine the mayhem if you inadvertently doubled the amount of powder in a cartridge. One good way to avoid this is by selecting a powder in which the desired load cannot be doubled without overflowing the case (volumetrically greater than 50% of the case capacity). Hopefully the observant reloader will notice gunpowder spilling all over the place and make some adjustments. Another problem is forgetting the powder altogether - see squib, above - and I visually check the powder level in each case before seating the bullet.


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Confusing on Purpose?

A mistake with potentially disastrous consequences is simply using the wrong powder, and it's easy to do if you're not paying attention. Pressures developed in modern cartridges can easily exceed 50,000 psi and selecting the incorrect powder, for example using a fast burning powder in place of a slow one, can easily exceed the design pressures of the gun and result in a catastrophic failure. The only way I know to help prevent this is to never keep more than one powder on the reloading bench at a time and always check and recheck the powder you have selected before beginning a reloading session.

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This Is Not Bueno


Have any of the reloaders among us had an accident (or a scare) related to reloading? What happened and how would you recommend preventing it from happening again?

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Link-O-Rama
Cool Video - .22LR Ammunition Manufacture
SAAMI - Sporting Arms and Manufacturer's Institute
Article: Chamber Pressure Measurement
Chart: Cartridge Pressures


***This Old Cartridge***

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54 Burnside Cartridge


This week we have another submission from Neon Madman, who frankly at this point is just showing off!

This is the .54 Burnside cartridge, used in the Civil War carbine of the same name. Ambrose Burnside was a gunsmith and businessman who had resigned his military commission before the war to work full-time on his design for a breechloading carbine. This was not truly a self-contained cartridge, it still used an external percussion cap to ignite the black powder charge thru a small hole in the tapered end of the cartridge. The Burnside carbine was the third most popular in the war (after the Sharps carbine and the Spencer carbine). Reenactors can still shoot it today, using new cartridge cases sold by the good people at Dixie Gun Works.

After the war, Burnside went on to serve three terms as Governor of Rhode Island, a term as U.S. Senator, and was the first president of the National Rifle Association.

Thanks again for making all other entries inadequate, Neon Madman!


***This Old Cookbook***

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Greatest Cookbook Ever


OK you clowns - buy a copy of the cookbook. If you already have one for your own bad self, then give one as a gift this season. Remember; it's only pennies per day, all proceeds go to charity, and if you don't buy a copy then bluebell will be sad.

And you wouldn't like bluebell when she's sad.

Yes! I want to be a WeaselWarrior and prevent sadness in bluebell!!


*************

Please note the new and improved gmail account MoronGunThread for sending in stories and pictures. Thanks for your patience and please let me know if you have any more trouble (with the email). Again, that's morongunthread at gmail dot com. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:05 PM




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Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (H5knJ)

2 Related, Bugs Bunny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKcdlj-Uiw

Posted by: andycanuck at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (Evws/)

3 There is a video of guys rapid firing a AR until it fails

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 07:08 PM (6VrXf)

4 I was at Sig Sauer once while they were failure testing barrels. I seem to recall the goal was 10,000 rounds.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (MVjcR)

5 What is that picture of?
11 jammed bullets inside of a barrel?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:11 PM (miE9U)

6 With 11 rounds stuck in it, that's a high-capacity barrel right there. Totally illegal in California.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (HJhxx)

7 Woah, that M1A had a bad day. It frigging grenaded.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (9Om/r)

8 There is a video of guys rapid firing a AR until it fails
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 07:08 PM (6VrXf)


And another with a suppressed M249 fired continuously until (after) the suppressor glows red and gets droopy and then falls off.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (t+qrx)

9 Only gun I saw destroy itself were Gau-8As

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (6VrXf)

10 5 What is that picture of?
11 jammed bullets inside of a barrel?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:11 PM (miE9U)
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Yep!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

11 Depressing/Aggravating News:

https://tinyurl.com/yc9rz2l2

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (EbOpT)

12 Surfperch, aren't bump stocks kind of useless anyway? That's what I remember reading.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (miE9U)

13 What is that picture of?
11 jammed bullets inside of a barrel?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:11 PM (miE9U)
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Yep!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

How did that happen?

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (EbOpT)

14 Ouch, that M1A looks exactly like.....one I've seen.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 07:14 PM (zLDYs)

15 I am not happy with my Walter PK-22.
May be buying Mrs D sometynew for Xmas.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 07:14 PM (0tfLf)

16
Yep!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

How did that happen?
Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (EbOpT)
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Not sure, but it appears somebody kept shooting after the first one got stuck.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:15 PM (MVjcR)

17 Weasel, thanks.

I assume if a bullet isn't proceeding EXACTLY straight out of a barrel, it can jam inside.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:15 PM (miE9U)

18 Weasel, I assume it's a miracle the gun didn't explode?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:15 PM (miE9U)

19 (I assume a lot tonight)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:15 PM (miE9U)

20 Is this thread safe to be queer? Asking for my wife.

Posted by: Cuckstar Rick Wilson at November 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhf6w)

21 It's Thanksgiving week already. I was totally not paying attention.

And those are some nasty kabooms.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 07:16 PM (NWiLs)

22 Never a kaboom, but close. Like a few years back with a .357 SIG cartridge in a .40 Smith & Wesson mag. A little voice said "why don't you check each one just to make sure..." Yup.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 18, 2018 07:17 PM (CeJUf)

23 13 What is that picture of?
11 jammed bullets inside of a barrel?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:11 PM (miE9U)
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Yep!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

How did that happen?
Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (EbOpT)

Sometimes, Surfperch, when a bullet loves a gun barrel very very much...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 07:17 PM (NWiLs)

24 That is one heck of a strong barrel to do that. Is it for real?

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:17 PM (UdKB7)

25 Was talking with someone on the gun thread last week about primer drag on my Sig P365. I had some slight drag on mine the last time I shot it but also noticed that there is primer drag on my Glock 43 and it is about the same as the Sig P365.


Did some searching around the internet recently and it appears that a whole lot of people are getting primer drag from compact and sub compact 9mm pistols no matter who makes them.


Not sure slight primer drag is going to be a real issue or not.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 18, 2018 07:18 PM (JUOKG)

26
re: AMBROSE BURNSIDE

This dude has quite the interesting history. A real character.

You really should've included a pic of Ambrose. Legend has it, they coined "side burns" after this guy. If you saw his pic, you'd understand why.



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 07:18 PM (b16/K)

27
Incidentally, many many many years ago here, we discussed Ambrose Burnside.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 07:19 PM (b16/K)

28 Weasel, You are so correct about being aware of the 'feel' of a shot. I've never had a squib load but I've stopped shooting to check the barrel a few times. (I always have a small flashlight with my shooting gear for just that reason.)

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 07:19 PM (758Rh)

29 There is a video of guys rapid firing a AR until it fails
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 07:08 PM (6VrXf)


*****

Back in 1974 the army tested a Russian PKM light MG. Ran over 50,000 rounds through it just to see how it held up.
Remarkably well as it turned out. Accuracy dropped off after awhile but it still threw lead down range.
Simple
Cheap.
Deadly.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 07:20 PM (0tfLf)

30 Recently got an underfolder stock for my Ruger 10/22 Compact from the aptly-named underfoldstocks.com. Very nice. Fits in a tennis racket case even with the 25-round mag attached (which I wouldn't do outside of just seeing if it works.)

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 18, 2018 07:20 PM (j4zcI)

31 Stupid leftists in action...

https://twitter.com/ninaburleigh/status/
1064264494958997504

Posted by: andycanuck at November 18, 2018 07:20 PM (Evws/)

32 18 Weasel, I assume it's a miracle the gun didn't explode?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:15 PM (miE9U)
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Agreed. You can see the barrel is bulged but does not appear to have ruptured. I'm not convinced that someone didn't do that on purpose.

As far as your other question, for precision handloads, bullet runout is measured with a micrometer to make certain they start out perfectly in line with the bore. When a bullet exits the barrel canted, the rotation changes from that of the bore axis to the bullet center of gravity and induces yaw.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:20 PM (MVjcR)

33 re: AMBROSE BURNSIDE



This dude has quite the interesting history. A real character.



You really should've included a pic of Ambrose. Legend has it, they
coined "side burns" after this guy. If you saw his pic, you'd understand
why.









Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 07:18 PM (b16/K)

Damn, he may have inspired the word "epic" also.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:21 PM (9Om/r)

34 Surfperch, aren't bump stocks kind of useless anyway? That's what I remember reading.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (miE9U)

Yes, but the ruling (should it go into effect) will lay the groundwork for the potential banning of semiautomatic guns as well some designs of certain components such as trigger groups.

And besides, the ruling will punish law-abiding citizens for things they legally did before it came into effect.

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:21 PM (EbOpT)

35 24 That is one heck of a strong barrel to do that. Is it for real?
Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:17 PM (UdKB7)
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I found it on the internet so it has to be real.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

36 When a bullet exits the barrel canted, the rotation changes from that of the bore axis to the bullet center of gravity and induces yaw.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:20 PM (MVjcR)


I presume it will still leave the muzzle, assuming normal pressures behind it?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:22 PM (t+qrx)

37 There were cases in the Civil War of rifles found with multiple loads in the barrel. The explanation most given was a soldier, in the heat of battle, would load, not cap the rifle, aim, cock, and pull the trigger. Panic can really cloud things, and the soldier, thinking he had fired would repeat the process, including omitting the cap.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 07:23 PM (xzqr4)

38 That barrel cross-section is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. It looks like things almost went really bad after shot 4, but the barrel held.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at November 18, 2018 07:23 PM (SN4NF)

39
I assume if a bullet isn't proceeding EXACTLY straight out of a barrel, it can jam inside.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:15 PM (miE9U)
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I suppose that could be part of the problem but suspect it's usually an insufficient powder charge.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

40 Surfperch, aren't bump stocks kind of useless anyway? That's what I remember reading.

In some people's opinion (including mine) yes. But personal opinions about something as vague as "usefulness " is a poor basis for the government taking people's stuff and putting them in jail.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 18, 2018 07:24 PM (YJxmg)

41 I'm trying to figure out what kind of gun it's from. Threaded barrel, big round front sight.

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:24 PM (UdKB7)

42 Damn, he may have inspired the word "epic" also.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:21 PM (9Om/r)


Those sideburns look like they actually generate downforce.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:24 PM (t+qrx)

43 That is one heck of a strong barrel to do that. Is it for real?
Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:17 PM (UdKB7)
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I found it on the internet so it has to be real.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

Everything on the internet is true and accurate.

Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at November 18, 2018 07:25 PM (EbOpT)

44
Since only The Men are in here, I have a vid to share:

This expert shows us, with a chart, which women are "wife" material.

Please watch. It's really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuI6GTY9eVc

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 07:25 PM (b16/K)

45 Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (EbOpT)

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Squib load + teh stoopid + G-d smiling on his dullest creations.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 07:25 PM (5aX2M)

46 After the battle of Gettysburg, the ordnance boys collecting discarded muskets found many of them had multiple loads rammed down the barrel. I believe the recrd number was twenty. A lot of boys were failing to prime their muskets after loading, apparently. Why they didn't notice that the rammer wasn't going as far down the barrel as before is left as an exercise for the reader.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 07:26 PM (XXadE)

47
I presume it will still leave the muzzle, assuming normal pressures behind it?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:22 PM (t+qrx)
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I think so. I'm not sure you could get a round to chamber that was so messed up that bullet can't alone would cause a squib.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:27 PM (MVjcR)

48 Weasel, thanks for explaining all this stuff to me.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:27 PM (miE9U)

49 I've got a semi-auto PPS-43 "pistol" on the way. It's the Russki submachinegun that was a simplified version of the PPSh-41 (all steel with a folding stock). This version fires from a closed bolt and has the stock permanently welded in the folded position, so it doesn't need an awkward-looking 16" barrel on it.

Absolutely the goofiest gun purchase I've ever made. The thing has no practical purpose whatsover. But it looks friggin' cool.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 18, 2018 07:29 PM (j4zcI)

50 41 I'm trying to figure out what kind of gun it's from. Threaded barrel, big round front sight.
Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:24 PM (UdKB7)
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Older Colt .38 would be my guess.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:29 PM (MVjcR)

51 thirst!

the local toy store has a couple of barrels as shown above...

filled to the rim with Brim, as it were.

the only thing like that i've every encountered personally is a torn case heeding to be extracted from a chamber... dealt with that several times in the Army.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 07:29 PM (Dagiw)

52 My problems were caused not by reloaded ammo, but retail ! I had been shooting all day with Norma ammo. After going through a box except two rounds , I touched off one of the two rounds left. It Seemed to recoil more that the rest of the Norma. I fired the last round, and the muzzle climb was very noticeable, in fact, I couldn't open the weapon at all. I was only successful in opening it after I rocked the cylinder in place for a while. It finally opened and I extracted the empty round. Because back then, hearing protection was considered sissy, I wasn't wearing any. My ears have been ringing ever since. My bad!

Posted by: John Boeve at November 18, 2018 07:30 PM (8ZsLy)

53 Just picked up my new M1A1 didn't like the pic. of the exploded one. Springfield had a warning not to use reloaded ammo. What do you morons think? Very long lurker from the little green football days.

Posted by: Yep at November 18, 2018 07:30 PM (shvYT)

54 'Older Colt .38 would be my guess.'

You'd think after the bulge appeared they'd stop. Maybe it was a factory test?

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:31 PM (UdKB7)

55 48 Weasel, thanks for explaining all this stuff to me.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:27 PM (miE9U)
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Sure! I always available at the gun thread email too.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:31 PM (MVjcR)

56 I've got a semi-auto PPS-43 "pistol" on the way.
It's the Russki submachinegun that was a simplified version of the
PPSh-41 (all steel with a folding stock). This version fires from a
closed bolt and has the stock permanently welded in the folded position,
so it doesn't need an awkward-looking 16" barrel on it.



Absolutely the goofiest gun purchase I've ever made. The thing has no practical purpose whatsover. But it looks friggin' cool.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 18, 2018 07:29 PM (j4zcI)


I fired a real PPSH-41 some years ago. It had the 71 shot drum. Just wow....

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:31 PM (9Om/r)

57 I want to turn my 12 gauge 870 into a home defense gun.

https://tinyurl.com/y7mquqyb

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 07:32 PM (+6jVU)

58 I have seen that sectioned pistol barrel before, I believe it was a marketing or gun writer test stunt to see if the barrel would blow or not.

I suspect it is for a Ruger revolver, which are known for being very sturdy.

I will check my books.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 07:32 PM (mUa7G)

59 Famously after Gettysburg rifles collected from the ground many were found to have 2 or more rounds in the barrel. It was a common error in muzzleloader erea.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 07:32 PM (6VrXf)

60 I'm trying to figure out what kind of gun it's from. Threaded barrel, big round front sight.

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I'm guessing a SW N-frame. Maybe done on purpose by the Smith boys to demonstrate the gun's strength.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 18, 2018 07:32 PM (j4zcI)

61 To bring the gun and movie thread topics together:

How many gun wranglers must there have been on the set of John Wick?!? Good grief...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:33 PM (miE9U)

62 I know a Phd in mechanical engineering who flies around the Country testifying as an expert witness in such products liability cases. He makes good money doing that.

Posted by: CMU VET at November 18, 2018 07:34 PM (C+wjz)

63 And besides, the ruling will punish law-abiding citizens for things they legally did before it came into effect.
Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:21 PM (EbOpT)

simple solution: move bump stocks into the same category as machine guns and SBR's. And for those who can prove prior ownership, deem the tax paid as of the date of the status change. So existing bump stock owners get grandfathered, and newbies who want to acquire one pay the tax.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 07:34 PM (fDU8w)

64 53 Just picked up my new M1A1 didn't like the pic. of the exploded one. Springfield had a warning not to use reloaded ammo. What do you morons think? Very long lurker from the little green football days.
Posted by: Yep at November 18, 2018 07:30 PM (shvYT)
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Howdy Yep and welcome. I'm pretty certain every gun I have ever purchased has had the same warning regarding reloads. I shoot them all the time, but only ones I have loaded myself. Never, ever, ever shoot anyone else's reloads. Ever.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

65 And besides, the ruling will punish law-abiding citizens for things they legally did before it came into effect.

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 07:21 PM (EbOpT)



Jersey has been doing that for years.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:35 PM (9Om/r)

66 I want to turn my 12 gauge 870 into a home defense gun.

No problem. Go out on the balcony and fire two shots. You're welcome.

P.S. Got any daughters?

Posted by: Joe "Joe" Biden at November 18, 2018 07:35 PM (YJxmg)

67 I blew up a 7mm Rem Magnum. This was pre-internet and I found some article saying you should fill the empty space in a big cartridge with creme of wheat. This supposedly kept the powder tight against the primer. HAH! We were shooting outside Sun Valley ID, loaded one of the new loads, pulled the trigger, and converted that gun to scrap. NO injuries, thank God. One amazed gun smith in Sun Valley. I donated the welded gun for him to hang on the wall, may still be there.

Posted by: agesilaus at November 18, 2018 07:36 PM (DJzdA)

68 I want one of those Hollywood chicka-chicka guns. You know, the ones that go "chicka-chicka" every time you point it at someone for emphasis. Sometimes several times in a row.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 18, 2018 07:36 PM (j4zcI)

69 No problem. Go out on the balcony and fire two shots. You're welcome.

P.S. Got any daughters?
Posted by: Joe "Joe" Biden at November 18, 2018 07:35 PM (YJxmg)

Huh you're right. It already is.

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 07:36 PM (+6jVU)

70 Desocking before I forget.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 18, 2018 07:36 PM (YJxmg)

71 Famously after Gettysburg rifles collected from the
ground many were found to have 2 or more rounds in the barrel. It was a
common error in muzzleloader erea.

Posted by: Skip
Yeah - my grandpa gave me an ancient muzzleloader rifle when I was a teenager. He was a collector and had hundreds of rifles. The barn was full of them. Some priceless but mostly junk. We never were able to determine much about the rifle. No real barrel marks or other identifying features but appeared to be very old.

I had it drilled out and it had two rounds in it. Never fired it - it hangs above the mantle.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 07:37 PM (9rIkM)

72 I admit there's a lot I don't know about guns.

Like, what are the advantages of a rifle over a handgun? Or vice versa?

To me, rifles look like "old technology" guns.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (miE9U)

73 I've only ever had a squib fire in a revolver.

Kind of a PITA when it happens as you have to stand there for a minute or so and not turn the cylinder just in case.

Posted by: Big V at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (CGfsq)

74 I admit there's a lot I don't know about guns.



Like, what are the advantages of a rifle over a handgun? Or vice versa?



To me, rifles look like "old technology" guns.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (miE9U)


You're not going to reach out and touch someone with a handgun.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:39 PM (9Om/r)

75 67 I blew up a 7mm Rem Magnum. This was pre-internet and I found some article saying you should fill the empty space in a big cartridge with creme of wheat. This supposedly kept the powder tight against the primer. HAH! We were shooting outside Sun Valley ID, loaded one of the new loads, pulled the trigger, and converted that gun to scrap. NO injuries, thank God. One amazed gun smith in Sun Valley. I donated the welded gun for him to hang on the wall, may still be there.
Posted by: agesilaus at November 18, 2018 07:36 PM (DJzdA)
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As you found out, you can cause a big change in the pressure curve by reducing case volume. I have heard of doing that in some sort of reduced powder gimmick but would never try it (I'm a chicken too)

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

76 Berserker, so you're saying I should let my high-powered scope do the walking? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (miE9U)

77 here were cases in the Civil War of rifles found with multiple loads in the barrel. The explanation most given was a soldier, in the heat of battle, would load, not cap the rifle, aim, cock, and pull the trigger. Panic can really cloud things, and the soldier, thinking he had fired would repeat the process, including omitting the cap.

I think that probably fairly common back in the muzzleloading days. Some of the destructive testing that the US Army did to its musket barrels looks to me like they expected to have soldiers loading multiple times before the gun actually went off.

By the Civil War, BTW, Springfield and Harper's Ferry were using high quality iron and welding up the skelp with triphammers. The resulting tubes were very tough, rather tougher than most repros today, I suspect. It was actually some testing with US Armory barrels that led to the notion back in the 1960s and 70s that you couldn't load black powder to the point that it would burst a barrel, the idea being that it burned slowly enough that excess powder would blow out before it could build enough pressure to be dangerous. This was not so, of course, and there were some nasty accidents with poorly-made barrels before people caught on.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (bZ7mE)

78 I really can't get worked up over the bumpstock ban. We have lived with laws banning private ownership of machine guns, and modifying a semiautomatic to fire full-auto has been illegal for just as long.

While you can argue all day about how a bumpstock is not mechanically anything like converting a semi, the end result is still the same. "But, you can make a bumpstock out of a belt! What's your plan for that?" Simple, when you catch someone using a belt to get their rifle to continuously fire, you arrest him for using a bumpstock and mark the belt as "weapon modification" at trial.

I know this is liable to make a few gun-thread folks mad at me, but rapid-fire weapons are either illegal or not. I can't get choked up over a genuine loophole closing.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at November 18, 2018 07:41 PM (SN4NF)

79 nothing wrong with reloads per se:

there are factory reloads, which are as reliable as factory new, for various values of reliable.

personal reloads are safe too as long as, and only if, you abide by all the rules mentioned above...


Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 07:41 PM (Dagiw)

80 Like, what are the advantages of a rifle over a handgun? Or vice versa?


Unlike a rifle, you can bring a handgun into Dennys.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2018 07:41 PM (HJhxx)

81 Guns should have little warning light icons, like a car dashboard.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 07:41 PM (/qEW2)

82 Look at a 45 pistol round against a 30-06 rifle cartridge and you will see one advantage.

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:41 PM (UdKB7)

83 'reach out, reach out and shoot someone
reach out, reach out and just go bang...'
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:41 PM (miE9U)

84 skelp
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (bZ7mE)


I learned a word.

Thank you.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:42 PM (t+qrx)

85 Cicero, true. :-)
So, (1), compactness/concealibility. Okay.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:42 PM (miE9U)

86 Like, what are the advantages of a rifle over a handgun? Or vice versa?

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Rifle - more powerful, more accurate, longer range.

Pistol - small, portable, concealable.

There's an old saying - "You use your pistol to get to your rifle."

Of course, a shotgun then says, "That's so adorable."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 18, 2018 07:42 PM (j4zcI)

87 Taro, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:43 PM (miE9U)

88
To me, rifles look like "old technology" guns.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (miE9U)
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Sure, old technology, but I can (usually) hit a 10 inch circle from 1000yds with a rifle bullet. Handguns would be for inside 50yards or so.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

89 Weasel, so accuracy as well. Makes sense.
Longer barrel probably helps with that...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:45 PM (miE9U)

90 Yes, I went to the range this week! Yesterday, to my local range, at NRA HQ.

I must be blessed I am able to walk in and go straight to a lane - no waiting. On a Saturday afternoon!

I have had an AR15 in the safe for about 5 years - never fired a round. I remedied that yesterday. My training on the M16 (A1 thank you!) was several (cough) years ago, so I mostly recalled how it all worked, but needed to lube up the brain a little. But apparently I got better at shooting in the intervening years. Though I tried to use a nail to adjust the sites just like dear old Uncle Sam taught me - yeah, that doesn't work. There is a tool for this now! Who knew?

Also put some rounds through my EDC PF9. It goes bang and the bullets pretty much go where I point them to. Found out its time to replace the battery on the laser.


Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 07:45 PM (VhKw6)

91


Agreed. You can see the barrel is bulged but does not appear to have
ruptured. I'm not convinced that someone didn't do that on purpose.


Couldn't you do that with a hydraulic press? Whoever did that had a band saw at their disposal, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:45 PM (HaL55)

92 and mark the belt as "weapon modification" at trial.

And that doesn't strike you as, um, absurd if not an outright abuse of the legal system?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 18, 2018 07:46 PM (YJxmg)

93 Although I have a progressive loading press, I've never used it. I'm sufficiently paranoid to assume something will go wrong on one stage when I'm paying attention to another. Maybe if I shot hundreds or thousands of rounds a week like some competitors I would feel different.

I prefer to take my time, using batch processing for each stage.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 07:46 PM (758Rh)

94 Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 07:45 PM (VhKw6)
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We should get together and do some shooting sometime.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:47 PM (MVjcR)

95 Still want to make your own at home?



https://tinyurl.com/ydx4fbxg

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 18, 2018 07:47 PM (cqNba)

96 blaster @ 90--, I have the same battery in a Crimson Trace on a G26 for the past 6 years. Still gets nice and all red-like everytime.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 07:48 PM (zLDYs)

97 Weasel, so accuracy as well. Makes sense.
Longer barrel probably helps with that...
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:45 PM (miE9U)


Part of it is the time and distance the projectile is in contact with the rifling and being pushed by the charge, but not all of it. Do a search for "sight radius" to get an idea of one of the factors that goes into that. It is a factor on any weapon that has separate front and rear sights that are used in conjunction.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:48 PM (t+qrx)

98 hogmartin, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:49 PM (miE9U)

99 Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 18, 2018 07:46 PM 

If the belt was being used to fire multiple rounds per second instead of holding pants up, I would call it a moment of unusual legal clarity.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at November 18, 2018 07:50 PM (SN4NF)

100 You'd think after the bulge appeared they'd stop. Maybe it was a factory test?

Has to be on purpose. Even I, with the least handgun experience of anybody, would be scratching my head before the 11th shot.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 07:51 PM (lK7fO)

101 Incidentally, I have managed to bulge a barrel. Yugo rebuild of a Mauser '98 Gewehr (long barreled WWI variant) with a rather corroded bore. I cleaned it as best I could with a brush and chemical cleaners (didn't know bout JB Bore Paste at the time) and went to do shoot it to see if I needed to lap it. 20 rounds of 8mm Przi Partisan, followed by some surplus ammo also from Yugoslavia - about the 3rd round of surplus I noticed the light shining off the barrel in an odd way, and, lo and behold, it was bulged about 2/3 up the barrel. It is still sitting in my bedroom, waiting for me to decide to sell it for parts, rebarrel it (as much as the gun cost in the first place), or just keep it as a wall-hanger.

I've never determined for sure what caused that bulge. For awhile I thought that there must have been some weak spot or a maybe a scrap of cleaning patch down there. A couple years back, though, I discovered that contrary to what everyone seems to think, nitrocellulose-based propellants do deteriorate over time and when they do can ignite erratically, with much the same effect as an underloaded round. Since the surplus ammo in question dated to the early 90's, it was just at the end of its estimated shelf life.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 07:51 PM (bZ7mE)

102 46 After the battle of Gettysburg, the ordnance boys collecting discarded muskets found many of them had multiple loads rammed down the barrel. I believe the recrd number was twenty. A lot of boys were failing to prime their muskets after loading, apparently. Why they didn't notice that the rammer wasn't going as far down the barrel as before is left as an exercise for the reader.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 07:26 PM (XXadE)

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Absolute terror.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 18, 2018 07:51 PM (ZwF/t)

103 93 Although I have a progressive loading press, I've never used it. I'm sufficiently paranoid to assume something will go wrong on one stage when I'm paying attention to another. Maybe if I shot hundreds or thousands of rounds a week like some competitors I would feel different.

I prefer to take my time, using batch processing for each stage.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 07:46 PM (758Rh)
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I first bought a progressive for handgun rounds, unpacked it, looked at it, and put it on the shelf. Never loaded a round on it for the very reasons you gave!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:53 PM (0H9Ub)

104 From what I understand, pistol powder in a rifle cartridge can really ruin your day.

Anyway, shot a Garand match yesterday. Also had a turkey shoot.

Had a great time but, I much prefer my K-31 for 200 yard matches. Though, that may be due to the fact I've not shot the Garand in High Power matches that often.

Anyway, so far, this month, I've shot: IDPA, M1 Garand match and had a family gun together.

Oh, and bought more ammo which I've made a significant dent in.

Time to get more!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 07:55 PM (WEBkv)

105 Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 07:55 PM (WEBkv)
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Nicely done! Garands are fun, aren't they?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:58 PM (0H9Ub)

106 As you found out, you can cause a big change in the pressure curve by reducing case volume. I have heard of doing that in some sort of reduced powder gimmick but would never try it (I'm a chicken too)
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (MVjcR)
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Yep. Pressure curve is why one must use ammo specifically built for the M1 Garand rather than just any old off the shelf 30-06 ammo.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 07:59 PM (WEBkv)

107 The wrong type or amount of powder is an obvious one, but handloaders, especially bulk loaders of bottle-necked rifle cartridges, need to pay very close attention to case length.
There is a very good reason every decent loading manual specifies a MAXIMUM case length and why every good manufacturer of reloading equipment offers a case trimmer, case gauges, measuring tools, etc.
If the case is too long, it may well chamber, but with the added "interesting feature" of the front of the case neck being compressed into the bullet jacket by the chamber itself. Pressure WILL seriously "redline" in these conditions.
In the space of a couple of months, I saw a SiG AMT and a genuine, original AR-10 both damaged by reloads assembled on over-length cases. .
Hand-cranked trimmers are cheap insurance for most folks, but if you shoot and reload on a serious scale or are "time-poor", there are electrically powered units in abundance. I have a Dillon unit that serves me well.

Posted by: Bruce at November 18, 2018 08:00 PM (7rlrd)

108 Nicely done! Garands are fun, aren't they?
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:58 PM (0H9Ub)
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More fun than I should be allowed to have.

For whatever reason, the Garand speaks to me in a way the AR-15 never will.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:01 PM (WEBkv)

109 Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 07:51 PM (bZ7mE)
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Hi Grey Fox - are you certain it wasn't there before? Barrel steel is awfully strong. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened as you suggest, just curious.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:01 PM (0H9Ub)

110 I shot the 21 Thompson twice, got my retarded DPMS Recon II to run a whole mag without farting, Shot plates with the 1911's and got to shoot simunition at a SEAL team wed and thurs night in urban warfare training. Got 3 the first night in a traffic jam, two the next night and got KIA both times.
Kinda odd to be pointing guns at people and shooting at them. All in all a good week!

Posted by: DBCooper at November 18, 2018 08:02 PM (bttOm)

111 We should get together and do some shooting sometime.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 07:47 PM (MVjcR)


Sounds a winner - we had tried to connect up before - my schedule has changed which should make it easier to do. I think you go to BRA?

I have been there but HQ is just a couple miles down the road.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:02 PM (VhKw6)

112
For whatever reason, the Garand speaks to me in a way the AR-15 never will.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:01 PM (WEBkv)
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*fistbump and bro hug*

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:03 PM (0H9Ub)

113 Hand-cranked trimmers are cheap insurance for most folks, but if you shoot and reload on a serious scale or are "time-poor", there are electrically powered units in abundance. I have a Dillon unit that serves me well.
Posted by: Bruce at November 18, 2018 08:00 PM (7rlrd)
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That is some great information. I always assumed that, when I started reloading, I would be trimming cases. But, I never thought about the fact one could seriously increase chamber pressure through seating an over-length case.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:03 PM (WEBkv)

114 I participated in the Belle Glade Rotary Club Turkey Shoot this week. Does that count?

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 18, 2018 08:04 PM (Jj+59)

115 114 I participated in the Belle Glade Rotary Club Turkey Shoot this week. Does that count?
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 18, 2018 08:04 PM (Jj+59)
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That is outstanding! What were the parameters of the match?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:05 PM (WEBkv)

116
I have been there but HQ is just a couple miles down the road.
Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:02 PM (VhKw6)
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I remember that!
I let my BRA membership lapse and just shoot at the farm now. The NRA is close to my office in Merrifield, and I have never been inside!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:05 PM (0H9Ub)

117 Oh, guy in the next lane to me had a full auto MP5. I THOUGHT the rules at HQ were no full auto at least during public hours. Guy let one rip - maybe 10 rounds - and EVERYBODY stopped shooting and looked down the line. I think maybe the range officer had a talk with him, because after 3 bursts he didn't shoot full auto again.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:05 PM (VhKw6)

118 One of the most famous squib loads in Hollyweird history -- the death of Brandon Lee (Bruce Lee's son) while filming a scene in The Crow :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Lee#Death

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 18, 2018 08:07 PM (Z4rgH)

119 One of these days I'll do a thread on rifle match case prep if you all are interested,

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:07 PM (0H9Ub)

120 Hey, into OT.

The Bengal Slices recreation is a pretty solid everyday Latakia/Oriental/Virginia and cheap as chips at about $14 per 1.75oz tin. If anybody's into that kind of thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 08:07 PM (t+qrx)

121 Looked up the rules - full auto bad during public hours at NRA HQ.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:08 PM (VhKw6)

122 117 Oh, guy in the next lane to me had a full auto MP5. I THOUGHT the rules at HQ were no full auto at least during public hours. Guy let one rip - maybe 10 rounds - and EVERYBODY stopped shooting and looked down the line. I think maybe the range officer had a talk with him, because after 3 bursts he didn't shoot full auto again.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:05 PM (VhKw6)

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Everyone was just jealous he didn't offer to let them try the MP5!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:08 PM (WEBkv)

123 119 One of these days I'll do a thread on rifle match case prep if you all are interested,
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:07 PM (0H9Ub)

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I'm in!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:09 PM (WEBkv)

124 Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:05 PM (VhKw6)
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Would you believe my shooting buddy has not one but TWO full auto MP5s?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:09 PM (0H9Ub)

125 from a couple of threads ago
No "hate crimes" as such, but hatred as a motive for an actual crime to be an aggravating factor for sentencing does not seem out of line to me.
What exactly is the difference, AOP?

Murder is murder.

Enhancing the sentence due to divined thoughts and intent is Big Brother - no matter how you look at it.



Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:10 PM (LL1Be)

126 Would you believe my shooting buddy has not one but TWO full auto MP5s?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:09 PM (0H9Ub)


Isn't that how you clear trees at the farm?

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:11 PM (VhKw6)

127 Kinda odd to be pointing guns at people and shooting at them.
Posted by: DBCooper at November 18, 2018 08:02 PM (bttOm)


We used the blue barrel simunitions in FPFT and that was a surprisingly difficult mental hurdle to overcome. Because it's an M9, you wear one every duty day... and you want me to do WHAT with it? Won't I get in trouble? You mean... AT him?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 08:11 PM (t+qrx)

128 Murder is murder.

Enhancing the sentence due to divined thoughts and intent is Big Brother - no matter how you look at it.



Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:10 PM (LL1Be)

Well, I was thinking more in the case of expressed thoughts and intent. Judges should not be acting as mindreaders.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 08:13 PM (fDU8w)

129 Here is a P64 barrel I bulged double tapping when a bad round squibbed on me.

https://flic.kr/p/NKwiXj

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 08:13 PM (WAJor)

130 We used the blue barrel simunitions in FPFT and that was a surprisingly difficult mental hurdle to overcome. Because it's an M9, you wear one every duty day... and you want me to do WHAT with it? Won't I get in trouble? You mean... AT him?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 08:11 PM (t+qrx)

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Hey, at least it isn't the kind of training Russian's do.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:13 PM (WEBkv)

131 > Why they didn't notice that the rammer wasn't going as far down the barrel as before is left as an exercise for the reader.

Having Confederates firing grapeshot at your ass probably tends to interfere with your concentration.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 08:13 PM (vOkuK)

132
Isn't that how you clear trees at the farm?

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:11 PM (VhKw6)
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Either an MP5 or an Uzi. MP5 is faster!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:13 PM (0H9Ub)

133 I've seen three different pistols with 9mm white box Winchester bullets stuck in the barrels. Their quality control sucks and I'll never use that ammo in my weapons.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 18, 2018 08:14 PM (bML9A)

134 Enhancing the sentence due to divined thoughts and intent is Big Brother - no matter how you look at it.



Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:10 PM (LL1Be)


Yeah, I am going to have to kinda sorta disagree with you there.

Intent has long been a part of the law. "Murder is murder" but there are all kinds of degrees of it.

I get and agree with the purpose of hate crimes legislation but of course like anything it gets abused.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:14 PM (VhKw6)

135 Hi Grey Fox - are you certain it wasn't there before? Barrel steel is awfully strong. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened as you suggest, just curious.

I did consider that possibility. I owned the gun for about six months prior and never noticed anything wrong until that day, though. Can't say for sure it wasn't already there, but I don't think so.

The barrel WAS strong, which is why it only bulged a bit and didn't rupture, I think.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 08:15 PM (bZ7mE)

136 Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 08:13 PM (WAJor)
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Wow - check that out. What did the second round feel like?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:15 PM (0H9Ub)

137 Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 08:15 PM (bZ7mE)
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Amazing. Good to know. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:17 PM (0H9Ub)

138 Weasel @ 124- full auto. Yeah, I couldn't afford to do full auto these days. Last time was back in 95 at Little Creek and Uncle Sugar was picking up the tab.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 08:17 PM (zLDYs)

139
Well, I was thinking more in the case of expressed thoughts and intent
With the exception of cold-blooded assassins, murder is almost always a crime that is result of hate.

I am good with hate being part of motive. But sentencing?
I can see the ProgLeft abusing this to no end.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:17 PM (LL1Be)

140 Turning an 870 or Mossberg 500 into a home defense gun is simple. 18.5 in barrels are easy to get and use. The Remington shotguns can have an extended mag tube installed with little effort. Both are good options.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable at November 18, 2018 08:18 PM (0OmEj)

141
Intent has long been a part of the law. "Murder is murder" but there are all kinds of degrees of it.

And sentencing is a completely different part of the law.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:18 PM (LL1Be)

142 133 I've seen three different pistols with 9mm white box Winchester bullets stuck in the barrels. Their quality control sucks and I'll never use that ammo in my weapons.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 18, 2018 08:14 PM (bML9A)
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It's also the filthiest ammo in .38 that I've ever seen.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:18 PM (0H9Ub)

143 Wow - check that out. What did the second round feel like?


The first round sounded a bit strange but I was already dropping the hammer on the second one. There was smoke and a brass frag struck my check.

And the slide was stuck back over the bulge. I had to use a rubber mallet to get it off.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 08:19 PM (WAJor)

144 And sentencing is a completely different part of the law.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:18 PM (LL1Be)


Yes, and?

Why do we have first degree and second degree murder?

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:19 PM (VhKw6)

145 So I get to thinking since I'm the gun thread - What If? 40 minutes later I find out that there is a new safety lever for a Model 30 C96 Mauser available. Thank you gub buddies.

Posted by: Panhandler at November 18, 2018 08:19 PM (c8xLq)

146 138 Weasel @ 124- full auto. Yeah, I couldn't afford to do full auto these days. Last time was back in 95 at Little Creek and Uncle Sugar was picking up the tab.
Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 08:17 PM (zLDYs)
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Yep. My buddy has a significant investment in them.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:20 PM (0H9Ub)

147 Hogmartin.
Yeah it was weird, Guy has his M4 up as he came around the corner and I double-tapped him under his elbow and he jumped a bit which made me stop shooting but the traffic jam ensued so got what I thought was 4 double taps total. Round count was 5 doubles. Second night I got in a longer affair with three guys and they shot a bunch at me and I never got hit. I did a mag change and shot 26 times. Third guy got me in an awesome move i couldn't engage. He said 'good thing I got you because you were gonna get the dog'...

Posted by: DBCooper at November 18, 2018 08:22 PM (bttOm)

148
Why do we have first degree and second degree murder?

Premeditation vs spur of the moment action.

Depending up on the jurisdiction.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:23 PM (LL1Be)

149 The guy on the other side lane had a lever gun in what looked like 45-70.

Whatever it was, that sumbitch was LOUD.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:24 PM (VhKw6)

150
Well, I was thinking more in the case of expressed thoughts and intent. Judges should not be acting as mindreaders.


And it intents and thoughts are crimes in and of themselves, let alone punishment multipliers, then why isn't attempted murder treated as successful murder.

If anything, I want a screw-up who can't even pull of a proper murder to go to prison too. Why should incompetent murderers be treated with leniency?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:25 PM (lD3vL)

151 Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 08:19 PM (WAJor)
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Holy crap.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

152 re the barrel full of bullets: that looks like what i've read is the the typical failure mode of open-bolt machine pistols: one squib and brrrrrrp! unscrew and
replace barrel, carry on.
o

Posted by: Gooshy at November 18, 2018 08:26 PM (CVnIW)

153 Again, "hate" might be an important part of determining motive. But incorporating it into sentencing ?

who deserves to me murdered most? least?

1) cheating spouse
2) member of identity, race, political or religious group
3) innocent bystander
Answer: it shouldn't matter, under the law. All were murdered.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:27 PM (LL1Be)

154 Premeditation vs spur of the moment action.

So is there some sort of time threshold that needs to be crossed before "spur of the moment" becomes "premeditated"? What is that?

A few seconds? minutes? hours? days?


Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:28 PM (lD3vL)

155 when i was at Benning for Infantry School a few years back, our M-203 qualification was fun.

seems they had a bad lot of dye marker rounds (the ones you qual with for the window shot.

a guy in my platoon pulled the trigger, and the 203 barrel went "blooie"...

he was shook. the drills gave him another 203 and another round and....

you guessed it.

he about shit himself. two or 3 more barrels went, so they called a cease fire, huddled up, then gave everyone a hit on the window section, and we continued on with the course or fire, HE only...

IIRC, just about everyone got expert that day, since the window was the only really hard part.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 08:28 PM (Dagiw)

156 *fistbump and bro hug*
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:03 PM


I want to laugh harder at this, but given the awesomeness of the Garand, I can't.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 18, 2018 08:28 PM (DVvHX)

157 Answer: it shouldn't matter, under the law. All were murdered.

And in states like PA, the DP is available only if the murdered was a politician or LEO.

Animal Farm.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:29 PM (lD3vL)

158 I've seen three different pistols with 9mm white box
Winchester bullets stuck in the barrels. Their quality control sucks
and I'll never use that ammo in my weapons.


Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 18, 2018 08:14 PM

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Agree. And I came upon something called Winchester Service Grade ammo. Got 500 rounds bulk at the pawn shop. It is garbage ammo that is dirty, unreliable and inconsistent. I won't buy it again.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 18, 2018 08:29 PM (JUOKG)

159 he about shit himself. two or 3 more barrels went, so they called a cease fire, huddled up, then gave everyone a hit on the window section, and we continued on with the course or fire, HE only...

IIRC, just about everyone got expert that day, since the window was the only really hard part.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 08:28 PM (Dagiw)
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Consider the irony: The HE was safer than a dye round.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 08:31 PM (WEBkv)

160 there are four kinds of homicide

felonious
actionable
justifiable
praiseworthy

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 08:32 PM (Dagiw)

161
Didn't gay radical leftist Gavin Newsome grow?
I saw him on TV today and he was like 6'5".

Was he wearing high heels so he wouldn't be shorter than President Trump?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 08:33 PM (b16/K)

162 160 there are four kinds of homicide

Where does negligent fit in?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:34 PM (lD3vL)

163 4am coming quick so I'm out.
Have a good night horde.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 08:34 PM (6VrXf)

164 'Night Skip.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:34 PM (MVjcR)

165 Couldn't a good attorney prove that a previously responsible gunowner and reloader was actually "premeditating" murder from the time he bought his first gun?
One neighbor hearing (or misremembering) "liberals want to steal my guns - I hate them all!" could be interpreted as politically motivated 'hate'.

Most juries would buy the shit out that.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:35 PM (LL1Be)

166 Soothsayer: Louboutin makes a line just for him I believe :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 08:36 PM (miE9U)

167 who deserves to me murdered most? least?

1) cheating spouse
2) member of identity, race, political or religious group
3) innocent bystander
Answer: it shouldn't matter, under the law. All were murdered.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:27 PM (LL1Be)

Consider this: Murderer A kills a man because the guy cut him off in traffic. A gets his licence plate number, identifies him, and tracks him down and kills him. Absolutely premeditated murder. But really, no random people are at risk, because he is so focused.

Murderer B kills a man because the victim belongs to a different race, and B hates all members of that race. B would have killed any member of that race at any time, because they all look alike to him. So any random person with those racial characteristics is a potential victim.

The very randomness of B makes him more of a threat to society, IMHO.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 08:36 PM (fDU8w)

168 My husband got me a Kimber Micro 9 for my birthday last week...took it to the range for a test drive today. Sweet! Al least, once I got used to the size, it's smaller than my .380. Then - I got to try out his Ruger Redhawk. Oh, my. Perhaps I should have asked for that instead of the Kimber...

Posted by: Antisocialist at November 18, 2018 08:36 PM (2shuf)

169 Where does negligent fit in?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:34 PM (lD3vL)


Somewhere between felonious and actionable, depending.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 08:36 PM (t+qrx)

170 Premeditation vs spur of the moment action.

Depending up on the jurisdiction.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:23 PM (LL1Be)


So it's based on intent. Which is my point.

Terrorism is an intent based crime.

There is a reason why cross burning is a crime - because it is about what you are intending to do - you are trying to frighten/intimidate a group of people. That is why killing a person because of their race is a different deal than killing them because you want their wallet.



Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:38 PM (VhKw6)

171 Consider this: Murderer A kills a man because the guy cut him off in traffic.

Lots of cars out there. And drivers.
I'm saying the threat is pretty much equal.

If the guy will murder for cutting off in traffic?

What happens to the barista that gets his coffee order wrong?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:39 PM (LL1Be)

172 in Gub related news, i got an e-mail copy of my 03 FFL this week, so go me!

questions for those in the know:
do they send me a book, or do i have to buy one someplace? if so, where?

do i get a hard copy in the mail? i'm thinking yes, since the delay was because they sent the first one to Bass Lake, up by Yosemite, rather than to here in The Valley, like totally. that one is now canceled, with notes in the file that it was miss-sent, so if someone does anything stupid with it, i should be covered.

any helpful suggestions, other than don't do stupid shit and do all required paperw*rk immediately, so i don't forget and miss a deadline?

i've got one question regarding collection versus "for sale", which i do NOT plan on engaging in, as to marking collection items " not for sale"... rather than have to individually tag everything we own, which would be a royal PITA, i'm going to ask if i can just mark the safes. and yes, i will get the answer in writing, for future reference, just in case.


Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 08:39 PM (Dagiw)

173 There is a reason why cross burning is a crime - because it is about
what you are intending to do - you are trying to frighten/intimidate a
group of people.



So why isn't flag burning a crime?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:40 PM (LL1Be)

174 Agree. And I came upon something called Winchester Service Grade ammo. Got 500 rounds bulk at the pawn shop. It is garbage ammo that is dirty, unreliable and inconsistent. I won't buy it again.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 18, 2018 08:29 PM (JUOKG)


I thought I'd never see dirtier ammo than Remington but Winchester white box sets the bar for dirty, unreliable ammunition.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 18, 2018 08:41 PM (bML9A)

175 Speaking of BOOM.....

Weasel, you need to get that motorhome, load up Weasel Woman n' both Weasel Dog n' Cat, and head out to Idaho for Boomershoot.

The guns don't go ka-boom. The targets though, do. They use Boomerite, a reactionary explosive much like Tannerite, but more potent. Its mixed and containerized on site for the event.

Joe Huffman, the founder and HMFWBIC there, has the federal licenses necessary, and runs a team of volunteers to stir up the mix. Containers are small and large Chinese Take Out tubs. Small ones at (IIRC) 380 yards and the large ones out at +/- 700 yards.

Opening ceremony is an Anvil Launch, followed by The Fireball.

Closing? The "Cleanup" shoot. All the unexploded targets are brought to a distance of about 80 yards, and opened up on, firing-squad style.

Equipment and accuracy wise, you'd be among family...just having more fun, and glee making the big booms, just because ya can!

And I think it'll take a Boomershoot Gun Thread to out do this here Ka-Boom thread, which is in itself, deserving to be a feature in any of the national gun magazines.

I do mean *any*. You done this one good, sir.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 08:41 PM (QzJWU)

176 'Hate crime' is a slippery slope.

Accepting and agreeing with increasing sentencing based on the politically incorrectness of the motive is agreeing with the Libs "lawfare" strategy.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:43 PM (LL1Be)

177 Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 08:39 PM (Dagiw)
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I think you have to come up with your own book. I just keep a printed list of acquisitions/disposals under the license with the necessary info.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

178 There is a reason why cross burning is a crime - because it is about
what you are intending to do - you are trying to frighten/intimidate a
group of people.

So why isn't flag burning a crime?
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:40 PM (LL1Be)

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I don't agree with flag burning, but one is seen as a freedom of political expression, the other is to intimidate/terrorize.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 08:43 PM (ffYR/)

179 With my Lee Precision press it's almost impossible to double load a cartridge. And the only way to load a squib is if you run out of powder without noticing. I've loaded thousands of 38 special rounds without any mishaps. The worst thing about the press is the chain operated mechanism that returns the powder disk which I replaced with a rod made out of 1/8 steel shaft. I've got a few extras that I made if anyone wants one.

Posted by: JimK at November 18, 2018 08:44 PM (uAlm4)

180 Just asked my 13-year-old niece what she wants for Christmas. Her reply: "Money and clothes."

Yup, she's a woman all right ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 08:44 PM (miE9U)

181 Kinda OT on gub thread - I started watching the old Bronson Death Wish today. I watched maybe 20 minutes. I had never seen the original, and had seen the Bruce Willis one earlier this year.

Real quick hits - VERY 70s. The editing is horrible. OMG that rapist kid is JEFF GOLDBLUM!?!? Bronson's co-worker calls him a "bleeding heart liberal."

People don't do THAT anymore, especially in a big movie.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:45 PM (VhKw6)

182 So why isn't flag burning a crime?

Universally, the flag burner isn't looking to frighten/intimidate someone, it is about provoking someone (the one offended at flag burning) to throw the first punch.

Flag burning is all about getting someone else to do a crime.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:45 PM (lD3vL)

183 but one is seen as a freedom of political expression, the other is to intimidate/terrorize.
"Seen".
By whom?

Many people like me see flag-burning as a threat to me and my way of life. Historically , commies did it when they wanted to intimidate my nation.


Do I count?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:46 PM (LL1Be)

184 the concept of hate crimes is ridiculous.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 08:46 PM (MTjB1)

185 Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2018 08:41 PM (QzJWU)
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Thanks, Jim. Coming from you that's quite a compliment!
And does Boomershoot ever sound like FUN.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

186 They use Boomerite, a reactionary explosive much like Tannerite, but more potent. Its mixed and containerized on site for the event.

Too bad they don't make clays out of that. Would spice up trap shooting.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:47 PM (lD3vL)

187 red, you mean your bound book, i assume. you provide that.
Brownells book for gunsmiths is nice, i'd assume the sales centric book is good too. slightly different layouts.

Posted by: Gooshy at November 18, 2018 08:47 PM (Nberq)

188 questions for those in the know:
do they send me a book, or do i have to buy one someplace? if so, where?
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 08:39 PM (Dagiw)


Congrats!

You can buy purpose-printed books, but lots of C&Rs just repurpose a blank ledger from Staples or quad ruled engineering notebook. Some download and print templates and use comb binders or whatever. It just can't be a stack of loose sheets or an electronic-only record (though 3 ring binders should be fine).

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 08:47 PM (t+qrx)

189 Do I count?

Sadly, not anymore.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:48 PM (lD3vL)

190 "Seen".
By whom?

Many people like me see flag-burning as a threat to me and my way of life. Historically , commies did it when they wanted to intimidate my nation.

Do I count?
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:46 PM (LL1Be)

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You are asking me to defend something that I alreadt stated I disagreed with. Had you quoted my full post instead of cherry picking, that would be obvious.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 08:49 PM (ffYR/)

191 Antisocialist @ 168- Mrs. E's carry is a micro9, but when she goes to her deerstand she packs a Ruger GP100.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 08:49 PM (zLDYs)

192 Universally, the flag burner isn't looking to frighten/intimidate
someone, it is about provoking someone (the one offended at flag
burning) to throw the first punch.



Flag burning is all about getting someone else to do a crime.



Not seeing a significant difference.

Also, are there enhanced penalties for terrorists for yelling "Allahu Akbar" right before attempting the murder of infidels like me?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:49 PM (LL1Be)

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:49 PM (LL1Be)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:49 PM (lD3vL)

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:50 PM (LL1Be)

196 You guys are firing blanks

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 08:50 PM (miE9U)

197 Does the gun thread barrel have Tannerite in it?

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2018 08:50 PM (VhKw6)

198 What the fuck with the italics?

I closed the tag 3 times, Pixy.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:51 PM (LL1Be)

199 Also, are there enhanced penalties for terrorists for yelling "Allahu Akbar" right before attempting the murder of infidels like me?
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:49 PM (LL1Be)

Well, there should be.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 08:52 PM (fDU8w)

200 I closed the tag 3 times, Pixy.

Apparently not.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:52 PM (lD3vL)

201 yankeefifth

I really really do not like hate crimes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 08:52 PM (hyuyC)

202 Hating hate crimes is a hate crime!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 08:53 PM (miE9U)

203 Ask Nakoula Basseley Nakoula about "hate crimes".


Or the Conservative Tea Party organizations attacked by the IRS.


Or Channon Gail Christian and Hugh Christopher Newsom, Jr.

Or Dinesh D'souza.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:55 PM (LL1Be)

204 COMPLETELY OT But this is INCREDIBLE
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http://bit.ly/2zhOOaC -Bohemian Rhapsody - Performed by The Black Jacket Symphony featuring Marc Martel - YouTube

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 08:56 PM (BqBId)

205 mikeyG

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:56 PM (LL1Be)

206 mikeyG [ / i] [ / i ] [/ i ]

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:57 PM (LL1Be)

207 What the fuck with the italics?

I closed the tag 3 times, Pixy.


Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:51 PM



Come to me, mikeyG.

*slips Pixy a $20*

Posted by: The Barrel at November 18, 2018 08:57 PM (DVvHX)

208 There are legends of men dead on Civil War battlefields, lying next to their muskets which are loaded with 7, 8, even ten loads stacked upon each other in the barrel, yet the weapon has not been primed and no effort made to discharge it.

In a time before intense training somehow suppressed the normal human aversion to killing another human being, men faced with certain death would still refuse to fire their weapons at those about to kill them.

Makes you think.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 08:57 PM (2eKoI)

209 Perhaps I was not explicit enough in my original post in the other thread that set mikey off. I'm really not in favor of a special category of hate crimes at all, but if lawmakers must virtue-signal about the issue, then doing it as a sentence enhancement is the way to do it, because eventually it will get ignored by judges, and we go back to the status quo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 08:57 PM (fDU8w)

210 I really really do not like hate crimes.

I think "hate" crimes are a way for the Fe'ral government to step in to a garden variety State or local crime and take over.

The synagogue shooting was a State crime, but because the voting citizens of PA believed that gunning down Jews who are not politicians isn't worthy of the death penalty, no matter how many are killed; due to the nationalized and politicized nature of the crime, the Fe'ral Government co-opted the whole process declaring by fiat that this is a "hate crime" and thus usurping State's rights, the will of the people of PA to protect their mass murderers against a DP sentences (unless the perp guns down a holy and noble politician), by declaring the sentence of "death" before there is even a trial or formal charges filed.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 08:58 PM (lD3vL)

211 You guys are firing blanks

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 08:50 PM (miE9U)

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mickeyG was trying to avoid me, but i'm a patient predator...

Posted by: The Barrel at November 18, 2018 08:58 PM (Dagiw)

212 Tremendous thread, by the way.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 08:58 PM (2eKoI)

213 208 There are legends of men dead on Civil War battlefields, lying next to their muskets which are loaded with 7, 8, even ten loads stacked upon each other in the barrel, yet the weapon has not been primed and no effort made to discharge it.

In a time before intense training somehow suppressed the normal human aversion to killing another human being, men faced with certain death would still refuse to fire their weapons at those about to kill them.

Makes you think.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 08:57 PM (2eKoI)
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I can't imagine and sometimes wonder how anyone survived any of those battles.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

214 Posted by: The Barrel
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You should crush mickeyG.

Like a bug.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:59 PM (LL1Be)

215 212 Tremendous thread, by the way.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 08:58 PM (2eKoI)
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Why thanks, Sharkman. Appreciate that.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:00 PM (MVjcR)

216 Is that second photo a Ruger Blackhawk, or at least what's left of one?

Wow. Those things are built like a brick shithouse. Not sure what you'd have to stuff into that cylinder in order to blow it to bits like that. 88mm round from a German Tiger tank, perhaps.

Posted by: Pastafarian at November 18, 2018 09:03 PM (sgHEm)

217 i'm blessed that we deal with not one but two FFLs locally that are happy to give me advice and suggestions.

and i am listening closely and taking notes.

fortunately, given my background in pharmacy dealing CII narcotics and such, and having been an armorer more than once in the Guard, most of that shit is already engraved in my muscle memory, as it were.

to begin with, we're just using it to buy ammo on line, but there will be a day when we'll buy something, and i want all my ducks in a row for that event.

i'm allergic to surprises...

and prison.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 09:03 PM (Dagiw)

218 The barrel with the eleven squibs - can that be done by eleven rounds with primers only?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:04 PM (lD3vL)

219 In a time before intense training somehow suppressed the normal human aversion to killing another human being, men faced with certain death would still refuse to fire their weapons at those about to kill them.

Makes you think.


It makes me think that the nipple was clogged, or that they forgot to clean the oil out of the barrel before loading the first charge.

I think that a couple hours on the range with a Civil War rifle-musket would have cured Colonel Gross of his romantic belief in men that refuse to kill, in favor of the much simpler explanation of malfunctioning guns and men running on autopilot and too scared to notice that only the cap was detonating.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:05 PM (bZ7mE)

220 216 Is that second photo a Ruger Blackhawk, or at least what's left of one?

Wow. Those things are built like a brick shithouse. Not sure what you'd have to stuff into that cylinder in order to blow it to bits like that. 88mm round from a German Tiger tank, perhaps.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 18, 2018 09:03 PM (sgHEm)
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That's what it looks like to me.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:06 PM (MVjcR)

221 fortunately, given my background in pharmacy dealing CII narcotics and such,

You would have made far more money if you were dealing schedule I. And a much more interesting customer base when making the transition into dealing firearms.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:06 PM (lD3vL)

222 I am ruthlessly unforgiving.

Posted by: The Minx 0.7 alpha at November 18, 2018 09:07 PM (Tyii7)

223 It gets mentioned once in a while on the gun thread but it could be fun to have a thread on all the bad information and impressions about firearms shown on TV and in movies. The obvious ones are the 29 shot single action revolvers or fire fights without hearing protection where people can hear whispers right after.

There's room for humor in the topic but I wonder how many newcomers have fired a 357 or 44 magnum and wondered where their hearing went.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 09:08 PM (758Rh)

224 218 The barrel with the eleven squibs - can that be done by eleven rounds with primers only?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:04 PM (lD3vL)
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Yes, absolutely, but I'm not sure if it would bulge the barrel like that. I'm just guessing, though.

Primers are surprisingly strong - about like a 22 cartridge, at least sound wise.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:08 PM (MVjcR)

225 Regarding cartridge pressure. Could one build a test fixture to measure that? Suppose you made a "dummy" chamber, very, very stout, with an equally stout breechblock. A short smooth barrel with a piston in it. Chamber end of the piston is recessed to make a smooth fit to the bullet. The other end is fitted with a hardened point tip, like in a industrial hardness tester. Place the whole thing in an arbor press frame, and fire it by pulling a long string (or electrically, if you must). Round fires, drives piston out, point makes divot in target plate. Size of divot is related to chamber pressure. (related, but not necessarily in a linear fashion)

Calibrate it by firing rounds of known, agreed-upon chamber pressures.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:10 PM (fDU8w)

226 really really do not like hate crimes.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at N




lol, I hate them.

my guess is that hate crimes were the way to get the camel's nose under the tent for pc.

you start with some things that are so heinous and horrendous that they need some special criminal category to handle them.

once you get some to agree with that they it is not hard to ease them into the belief that there are some words and ideas that are too horrendous and henious to speak.

evil people.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:10 PM (MTjB1)

227 I never understood the hate crime designation. It should have been some variation of first degree murder, where the premeditation is replaced by targeting of a victim of certain characteristics instead of targeting a known individual. To try to dogpile extra charges based on conjecture or assumed biases is too arbitrary.

Posted by: Johnny Dangerously at November 18, 2018 09:11 PM (VWE5i)

228 Pic. Yup, counted the pieces. Looks to be 14, ergo, M14.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 09:12 PM (xSo9G)

229 Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 09:08 PM (758Rh)
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I'm working on something sort of like that for next week. Although confined to one particular 'gospel truth'. I'm not enough of a tv or movie guy to think of many examples in popular cultur.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:12 PM (MVjcR)

230 yankeefifth

I used to not believe in evil.

I do now.

I guess the ultimate purpose is to have crimes to charge all the unbelievers. I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.
In a rational world, climate change deniers would be called ethical, data-driven scientists.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:13 PM (hyuyC)

231 a thread on all the bad information and impressions about firearms shown on TV and in movies.

Or when the protagonist gets the total crap beaten out of him, but manages to slowly lift his bloody self from the ground, huffing and puffing, produces a snub nose pocket .38, and from the dark and gloom manages to fire his one an only shot at a moving target 50 yards away scoring what appears to be a CNS hit due to the instant death of the intended target.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:14 PM (lD3vL)

232 I have never done any type of reloads, but my friend's dad did. We took a bunch of his primers and put them on a railroad track and waited for a train to watch the engineers freak out. We were horrible children. I won't tell you what we did with the gunpowder because it was probably even more illegal than messing with train tracks.

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 09:14 PM (1uG1d)

233 Y5 @ 226--, you are exactly right. It's like the old punchline, 'we've already determined you're a prostitute. Now we're just dickering price.'

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 09:15 PM (zLDYs)

234 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:10 PM (fDU8w)
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Yes, there are proofing tools for measuring chamber pressure, but if I recall correctly they measure the degree of expansion in the chamber steel. Or something like that.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:15 PM (MVjcR)

235 There are legends of men dead on Civil War battlefields, lying next to their muskets which are loaded with 7, 8, even ten loads stacked upon each other in the barrel, yet the weapon has not been primed and no effort made to discharge it.

In a time before intense training somehow suppressed the normal human aversion to killing another human being, men faced with certain death would still refuse to fire their weapons at those about to kill them.

Makes you think.
Posted by: Sharkman at N




wouldn't you think they were too terrified to fire the gun?

we took a guy pheasant hunting once. he was an idiot on every level but we did not realize this until we were en route to the hunting fields.

he used some lousy pump shotgun. every time a bird got airborne he would start cycling his pump until he was out of shells. never pulled the trigger once. when the shooting was over he could not quit yelling about how he had "beamed" every bird in the field.

were the field not so overgrown we would have had someone walk behind him and collect his shells.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:15 PM (MTjB1)

236 I guess the ultimate purpose is to have crimes to charge all the unbelievers. I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.
In a rational world, climate change deniers would be called ethical, data-driven scientists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:13 PM (hyuyC)

Even using the term "denier" without the scare quotes is letting the Left set the terms of discourse. It's an attempt to otherize climate skeptics by putting them in the same bin as Holocaust deniers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:16 PM (fDU8w)

237 I agree that photo looks like a Ruger Blackhawk. I can't imagine what would blow out the top strap like that. Some reloading manuals had a separate section for loads only safe in Blackhawks and Contenders because they were so strong. This was before the Super Blackhawk came along. Scary.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 09:17 PM (758Rh)

238 a thread on all the bad information and impressions about firearms shown on TV and in movies.

Or practically any spaghetti western where the protagonist fans his single action revolver striking six lethal center mass targets conveniently spaced equally apart in a semi circle.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:17 PM (lD3vL)

239 a thread on all the bad information and impressions about firearms shown on TV and in movies.

Silencers make any weapon sound like a dart gun.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 09:17 PM (Z1eux)

240 used to not believe in evil.

I do now.

I guess the ultimate purpose is to have crimes to charge all the unbelievers. I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.
In a rational world, climate change deniers would be called ethical, data-driven scientists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at N


same here, except I do believe that logic and reason will ultimately win out. the worry is how much suffering we will have to endure before they do.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:18 PM (MTjB1)

241 Even using the term "denier" without the scare quotes is letting the Left set the terms of discourse. It's an attempt to otherize climate skeptics by putting them in the same bin as Holocaust deniers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at N



you are unfortunately right.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:18 PM (MTjB1)

242 This was before the Super Blackhawk came along. Scary.

Then you consider the S&W 460XVR and what it is capable of.

You don't simply fire the .460 magnum, you detonate it.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:19 PM (lD3vL)

243 219
I think that a couple hours on the range with a Civil War rifle-musket would have cured Colonel Gross of his romantic belief in men that refuse to kill, in favor of the much simpler explanation of malfunctioning guns and men running on autopilot and too scared to notice that only the cap was detonating.
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:05 PM (bZ7mE)


Yes, I always figured that they were loading and firing as fast as they could, and with the noise of battle, failed to notice that their own musket was not actually firing.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 09:19 PM (sdi6R)

244 Yes, there are proofing tools for measuring chamber pressure, but if I recall correctly they measure the degree of expansion in the chamber steel. Or something like that.

They used to use lead and copper washers, and see how many were crushed. My copy of Lyman's Black Powder Handbook has all the pressures listed in Lead or Copper Crush Units. Problem is that it isn't possible to translate that into psi. Nowadays they can directly measure that kind of pressure, I think.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:19 PM (bZ7mE)

245 @ 226--, you are exactly right. It's like the old punchline, 'we've already determined you're a prostitute. Now we're just dickering price.'
Posted by: Eromero at N



sad but true.


Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:19 PM (MTjB1)

246 fortunately, given my background in pharmacy dealing CII narcotics and such,



You would have made far more money if you were dealing schedule I.
And a much more interesting customer base when making the transition
into dealing firearms.





Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:06 PM (lD3vL)

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yeah, i saw that right after i poasted...

"...dealing with CII narcotics..."
one j*b i had was auditing anesthesia records and anesthesiologists.

one guy was obviously diverting ketamine, but absolutely NO one would act on it... and it was for own use on duty.

the moar you know about health care, the moar you pray you stay healthy.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 09:20 PM (Dagiw)

247 Late to the great thread, as usual.
Yep, have had one squib, likely primer with no powder. Distraction during reload, maybe.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:20 PM (sYLo5)

248 Gather around, ya'll and pay heed. The lesson for this holiday season, as hunting season winds down, is "one shot, one kill."

Delicious steaks are just a butcher board away.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 09:20 PM (Z9C5C)

249 Alberta Oil Peon

And yet they have no control over the solar progression cycle.

And there is an identifiable world-wide feedback mechanism to reduce carbon dioxide levels, and get this, it produces oxygen!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:20 PM (hyuyC)

250 Even using the term "denier" without the scare quotes is letting the Left set the terms of discourse. It's an attempt to otherize climate skeptics by putting them in the same bin as Holocaust deniers.

I just refer to them - to their faces - as "Mathusians". Almost all of the time they have no idea what I mean, and that is why it must be said with the tone and facial express of contempt.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:20 PM (lD3vL)

251 I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.

I expect we'll see show trials and convictions in Europe by the end of the decade.

Great thread. Wish I had caught the reloading bug myself. Could have saved a considerable amount of denaro over the years.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 09:22 PM (Tyii7)

252 It's Sunday evening. Do you know where you're Guns are?

Posted by: jakee308 at November 18, 2018 09:22 PM (D+X8V)

253 Yes, there are proofing tools for measuring chamber pressure, but if I recall correctly they measure the degree of expansion in the chamber steel. Or something like that.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:15 PM (MVjcR)


Well, I was thinking about something that could be made by anyone with a decent lathe. Your "chamber" could be a two-inch diameter slug of mild steel, your breach plug a large bolt, and the piston a piece of hardened steel drill rod.

You make divots with several different brands and hotness of factory ammo, measure divot sizes, and then see where you handloads fall in relation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:22 PM (fDU8w)

254
244 Yes, there are proofing tools for measuring chamber pressure, but if I recall correctly they measure the degree of expansion in the chamber steel. Or something like that.

They used to use lead and copper washers, and see how many were crushed. My copy of Lyman's Black Powder Handbook has all the pressures listed in Lead or Copper Crush Units. Problem is that it isn't possible to translate that into psi. Nowadays they can directly measure that kind of pressure, I think.
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:19 PM (bZ7mE)
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That's starting to sound familiar. I think one of the units of measurement is CUP for copper units (of) pressure

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:23 PM (MVjcR)

255 230
I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:13 PM (hyuyC)


Hell, plenty of people have explicitly called for that.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

256 Notorious BFD

Time is the fuel we burn with no reload. Buying ammo commercially is time saving.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:24 PM (hyuyC)

257 252 It's Sunday evening. Do you know where you're Guns are?

I have been fondling the Grand Power P1 this whole evening.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:25 PM (lD3vL)

258 What was the civil war procedure for clearing the barrel of a faulty cartridge? Would be difficult to notice lack of recoil, even in haste.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at November 18, 2018 09:25 PM (0MIFZ)

259 Great thread. Wish I had caught the reloading bug myself. Could have saved a considerable amount of denaro over the years.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 09:22 PM (Tyii7)

Not sure I've saved any money, but I shoot a lot more for the same amount.
Yeah, I guess it's the same.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:25 PM (sYLo5)

260 > You make divots with several different brands and hotness of factory ammo, measure divot sizes, and then see where you handloads fall in relation.

Sort of an inverted Rockwell or Brinnell hardness tester. Instead of a controlled indentation force with an unknown hardness test plate, you have an unknown indentation force with a controlled hardness test plate.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 09:27 PM (vOkuK)

261 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:22 PM (fDU8w)
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The field of internal ballistics (before the bullet leaves the gun) is really pretty interesting but I just know something about a few key aspects related to reloading. Powder burn rates and case capacity often behave counter intuitively, or so I'm told.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:27 PM (MVjcR)

262 wouldn't you think they were too terrified to fire the gun?

- Y5


Yes. Knowing myself, were I in such a situation (standing shoulder to shoulder a hundred yards away from a crowd shooting at me) I know my mind would simply have gone blank and I am sure my autonomous nervous system would have tried to make an attempt at least to have me appear to be human. There was nothing rational at all I what those men were faced with in the Civil War. Standing still in broad daylight firing across fields. Nuts.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 09:27 PM (2eKoI)

263 The barrel is ribbed for her pleasure, and rifled for his pleasure.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 09:27 PM (Z9C5C)

264 rickl

If I was in the dock, I like to think I would stay true to my scientific roots.

"Sun Cycles exist."

IF we do not change course, the world will be in trouble.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:28 PM (hyuyC)

265 258 What was the civil war procedure for clearing the barrel of a faulty cartridge? Would be difficult to notice lack of recoil, even in haste.

Picking up the rifle of your dead comrade.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:28 PM (lD3vL)

266 230
I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:13 PM (hyuyC)
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they better hurry up and get started before the mini Ice Age gets here, because they're all going to freeze to death in their solar heated efficiency apartments.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 09:28 PM (Dagiw)

267
a thread on all the bad information and impressions about firearms shown on TV and in movies.

Old Western movies and TV shows where the guy with the revolver outshoots the guys with rifles.

Posted by: Rick E. Ricardo at November 18, 2018 09:29 PM (aKsyK)

268 Yes. Knowing myself, were I in such a situation (standing shoulder to shoulder a hundred yards away from a crowd shooting at me) I know my mind would simply have gone blank and I am sure my autonomous nervous system would have tried to make an attempt at least to have me appear to be human. There was nothing rational at all I what those men were faced with in the Civil War. Standing still in broad daylight firing across fields. Nuts.
Posted by: Sharkman at N



oh yeah, you are right. there was nothing rational about what they were doing, daylight march towards guys shooting at them. yeesh.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:30 PM (MTjB1)

269 247 Late to the great thread, as usual.
Yep, have had one squib, likely primer with no powder. Distraction during reload, maybe.
Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:20 PM (sYLo5)
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Thanks, RI Red. I suspect a primer only is about the most common cause, wouldn't you think?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:30 PM (MVjcR)

270 AOP, look up "copper units of pressure". I'm on a phone and cant do squat.

Posted by: Gooshy at November 18, 2018 09:31 PM (Nberq)

271 Guns will be important when harvesting medical supplies and chicken noodle soup cans from Hilldog supporters in the freezing times.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:31 PM (hyuyC)

272 In any event, the last thing I seem to think about is cost factor when I'm throwing lead downrange. It usually hits me when I get home and realize I left with a shit ton of ammo and came back with none.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (Tyii7)

273 Old Western movies and TV shows where the guy with the revolver outshoots the guys with rifles.

Given the ease of access to firearms experts, I am convinced that Hollywood has some sort of informal deal where they deliberately show techniques that, if copied, would result in rapid injury or death in the practitioner.

Part of Hollywood's War on Gun Owners. Show them how to get wounded or jailed as Really Good Ideas.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (lD3vL)

274
One America News Retweeted
GCUCCIA_OANN's avatar
Gabrielle Cuccia @GCUCCIA_OANN
27m
#BREAKING: #BrendaSnipes has submitted her resignation. #BrowardCounty

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (BqBId)

275 you know, one thing I think would be useful and would like to have the media do is quit referring to assault rifles and assault rifle bans. simply refer to them as rifles and rifle bans.

someone, Tucker, whoever, should be asking his guests why they want to ban rifles. when they reply that they only want to ban assault rifles, make them explain what an assault rifle is and distinguish it from a regular rifle. make them carry the burden.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (MTjB1)

276 Calibrate it by firing rounds of known, agreed-upon chamber pressures.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:10 PM (fDU8w)


There are a number of different tests that do that, traditionally they were "crushing a metal block" either of lead or copper.

The problem is that there is also issues with the burn rates and pressure curves of different powders, and also things like the shape of the chamber and the throat and the barrel also would come into play. Most of these pressure calibrations, from when I paid attention in the early 90's at least, were estimations from a standard chamber.

George Nonte talked about the variables, as did Frank Barnes and they both considered any computation to predict pressure would be so complicated it would give bad information as it would give good.


Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (mUa7G)

277 > #BREAKING: #BrendaSnipes has submitted her resignation.

Yeah, only in Chicago do you get to keep collecting a government paycheck while you're in the jug.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 09:33 PM (vOkuK)

278 Sort of an inverted Rockwell or Brinnell hardness tester. Instead of a controlled indentation force with an unknown hardness test plate, you have an unknown indentation force with a controlled hardness test plate.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 09:27 PM (vOkuK)

Exactly! In fact, I was just watching a youtube of Brinnell hardness testing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:34 PM (fDU8w)

279 271 Guns will be important when harvesting medical supplies and chicken noodle soup cans from Hilldog supporters in the freezing times.

Yep, medical supplies, along with any other addiction item, make excellent barter.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:34 PM (lD3vL)

280 > Yep, medical supplies, along with any other addiction item, make excellent barter.

Learn how to make beer, wine, and whiskey.
Learn how to grow tobacco (which can be grown in surprisingly cold climates... it won't be top quality, but it will do the job).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 09:35 PM (vOkuK)

281 Notorious BFD

While my wife pledges on a regular basis to not visit me in jail, she is thankful my vices are so cost-effective. Books, synthpop and trance CDs and the very occasional range time.

My last range time I realized I did not want a left-handed Tabor, after firing a right-handed one. Saved $1,900 with that decision.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:35 PM (hyuyC)

282 BrendaSnipes has submitted her resignation.

Whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 09:36 PM (Tyii7)

283 266 230
I expect to see crimes for climate change deniers in my lifetime.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:13 PM (hyuyC)
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they better hurry up and get started before the mini Ice Age gets here, because they're all going to freeze to death in their solar heated efficiency apartments.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 09:28 PM (Dagiw)


I said yesterday that the solution for a colder climate will turn out to be exactly the same as the solution for a warmer climate: Less individual liberty and more socialism.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 09:36 PM (sdi6R)

284 AOP, look up "copper units of pressure". I'm on a phone and cant do squat.
Posted by: Gooshy at November 18, 2018 09:31 PM (Nberq)

Weasel's third link at the top of this thread covers that quite nicely, albeit without any diagrams of the test setup.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:36 PM (fDU8w)

285 One America News Retweeted
GCUCCIA_OANN's avatar
Gabrielle Cuccia @GCUCCIA_OANN
27m
#BREAKING: #BrendaSnipes has submitted her resignation. #BrowardCounty
Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (BqBId)

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I'd rather that she had been cuffed and perp walked, butI'll take it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 09:36 PM (ffYR/)

286 Snip snipes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:37 PM (Fh8wK)

287 Yep, Weasel. Seems to me that powder errors are more likely to be on the high side - double charge being king. Underloading would only likely occur on purpose, e.g. checking out the low side of a recipe, as you noted.
Much easier to simply skip over one cartridge. That's why I try to follow the exact same sequence with every load. Funnel goes to next empty before anything else is done.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:37 PM (sYLo5)

288 My last range time I realized I did not want a left-handed Tabor Tavor, after firing a right-handed one. Saved $1,900 with that decision.

You uncircumcised Philistine.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:37 PM (lD3vL)

289 snipes was merely trying to resign before she got fired.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:37 PM (MTjB1)

290 Less individual liberty and more socialism.

Well, duh, you have to be more social what with all the huddling together for warmth because wood burning fireplaces are banned.

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 09:37 PM (1uG1d)

291 would have thought getting fired would have been better for snipes' career as a civil right hero.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:38 PM (MTjB1)

292 I had some improperly crimped .300 blk ammo from....an L.A. based ammo company. It was reman and it had some rounds that...worked loose. While I was shooting at the range.

It was a miracle I didn't have a kaboom. I got the gun unfucked but, apart from a brief test fire with factory ammo, I haven't touched it since. Probably just voodoo fear but....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:38 PM (xJa6I)

293 Only sound worse than the hammer falling on a primer without a bang? The sound of an aircraft engine that just now up and quit. Whoa mama.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 09:38 PM (zLDYs)

294 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

Thank you for the typo correction.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:39 PM (hyuyC)

295 Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:37 PM (sYLo5)
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When I'm reloading handgun cartridges, I dump the powder into 50 cases in a loading block then inspect each of the 50 visually with a light. I'm like a nervous cat.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:39 PM (MVjcR)

296 would have thought getting fired would have been better for snipes' career as a civil right hero

Yes. A much higher martyrdom factor.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 09:39 PM (Tyii7)

297 If I am not mistaken. Supervisors of Ekections are put there by the Gov. Right?
Lets not fuck this up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:39 PM (Fh8wK)

298 What was the civil war procedure for clearing the barrel of a faulty cartridge? Would be difficult to notice lack of recoil, even in haste.

Picking up the rifle of your dead comrade.


I was about to say the same thing.

To remove a stuck projectile in a muzzleloader -or one loaded without powder (a surprisingly common mistake) one usually uses a screw attachment on the ramrod to screw into the soft lead and pull it out. A more complicated procedure was to remove the breechplug and simply push it out. Usually that is a gunsmithing job, but there are period accounts of people doing that in their own homes or out in the woods. Neither are really good procedures to have to follow when you are being shot at, though.

These days we can use pressurized air, as well, and people have been known to dribble enough powder down the touch hole or nipple to get the ball out of the barrel, though in the case of the latter you have to be careful not leave a gap between the powder and the ball.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:40 PM (bZ7mE)

299 Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 09:36 PM (ffYR/)
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Patience Young Grasshopper, why would someone resign that still had 2 more years to go, Including a Presidential Election

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 09:40 PM (BqBId)

300 Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:39 PM (Fh8wK)
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Nope she was elected

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 09:40 PM (BqBId)

301 Ekected? I thought I read Jeb appointed her?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:41 PM (Fh8wK)

302 Yesterday at the range, shot some with my new Ruger 10/22 take down and my PPQ 45.

I discovered that the 10/22 is not 100% intuitive. I had noob face for a long time. And once I got my ass on straight, I discovered two of my non-Ruger magazines...wouldn't feed ammo out of it.

NOT. AMUSED.

I tossed both mags and used the Ruger mags which actually worked. Still had a couple ammo mis-fires but...eh. Rimfire. It comes with the territory.

I was still shooting to the right, but that may have been how I was mounting the rifle.

The PPQ shot well, very very well when I could focus. Shooting is as much mental as physical, I've found. It makes it a challenge but that's why I love it. It's me against me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:41 PM (xJa6I)

303
It done blowed up real good!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 18, 2018 09:42 PM (pNxlR)

304 no good deed

Cleaner air, a colder world, and more power density needs makes nuclear power the wave of the future. In a rational world.

I'd throw in high capacity, room temp superconductor research and urban farming high rises.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:42 PM (hyuyC)

305 Part of Hollywood's War on Gun Owners. Show them how to get wounded or jailed as Really Good Ideas.



Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (lD3vL)

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from people i've talked to, Hollyweird *gets* expert advice, but they ignore it for whatever the director thinks looks kewl...

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 09:42 PM (Dagiw)

306 George Nonte talked about the variables, as did Frank Barnes and they both considered any computation to predict pressure would be so complicated it would give bad information as it would give good.


Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 09:32 PM (mUa7G)

Well, my proposed gadget would not "predict" anything. What it would allow you to do is compare the effects of an unknown (or new) loading to the effects of known loadings with generally-accepted values of chamber pressure, and allow one to estimate the chamber pressure of the unknown.

And it would be easy to build from commonly-available metal stock.

And damn right, if I built one, I would arrange to operate it remotely, in case something went wrong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:42 PM (fDU8w)

307 Only sound worse than the hammer falling on a primer without a bang? The sound of an aircraft engine that just now up and quit. Whoa mama.
Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 09:38 PM (zLDYs)

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Having had this experience as a private pilot, concur. Fortunately I was on initial approach and could deadstick it in.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 09:43 PM (ffYR/)

308 Shooting is as much mental as physical, I've found. It makes it a challenge but that's why I love it. It's me against me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:41 PM (xJa6I)
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This x a bazillion.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:43 PM (MVjcR)

309 NaCly Dog

Seriously, other than the greater than 2MOA accuracy, the high cost and the great quantity of plastic, what do you not like about the Tavor?

I like the excellent weapons retention, tight confinement/CQB capability, and quickness since all the weight is in the shoulder.

If its the AR-15 ergos, there is the X95.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:43 PM (lD3vL)

310 Only sound worse than the hammer falling on a primer without a bang? The sound of an aircraft engine that just now up and quit. Whoa mama.
Posted by: Eromero at N




how does the line go? the loudest noise in gunfight is when your gun goes click.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:44 PM (MTjB1)

311 Ok I see Bush appointed her to fill a spot then she got elected

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:44 PM (Fh8wK)

312 If you were to weigh the finished cartridges, would a double-charge or no-charge stand out enough to notice?

Posted by: JB1000 at November 18, 2018 09:45 PM (WxYoh)

313 So in Broward County it will always be a left einger

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:45 PM (Fh8wK)

314 Just got my first gun last week: a Ruger Mark IV (22LR), which is a lot of fun to learn the ins and outs on. Bought a Bersa Thunder (.380 ACP) today and can't wait to hit the range.

This is an addicting hobby

Posted by: In Exile at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (SDmIR)

315 well, if she resigns in the middle of her term does the gov get to appoint her replacement?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (MTjB1)

316 There was a problem in the late 40's and early 50's with reports of 30-06 squib loads blowing surplus rifles up. There was a concern that the empty space in the cartridge would somehow allow an amplification of the pressure, or the powder would pulverize and turn into a fuel-air explosive.

The experts and gun writers tried to re-create the issue but had poor success in predicting it. There was an issue with misfires when the muzzle might be a bit low in that the powder was not in touch with the primer and the flash was not able to ignite the powder. George Nonte suggested a card wad over black powder to keep it compressed correctly. Black powder does need to be compressed slightly to ignite correctly

Filling the cartridge with cream of wheat was suggested when "blowing out" or pressure forming improved shouldered brass, or doing something like turning trimmed down 30-06 into 7.7 Arisaka.
This was always done with a squib load of powder, cream of wheat, and either a dribble of wax or a card-wad in the neck to keep the cream of wheat from dribbling into the action of your gun.

I don't think anyone suggests that now.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (mUa7G)

317 OT, but my club put a 1,000 yd range in over the summer. I've been away and haven't gotten my membership renewal back yet.
Can't wait to give it a whirl. That's when I'll be on the phone to Weasel!

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (sYLo5)

318 from people i've talked to, Hollyweird *gets* expert advice, but they ignore it for whatever the director thinks looks kewl...

Like how the hero can somehow manage to get a good sight picture when simultaneously firing pistols from the left and right hands.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:47 PM (lD3vL)

319 Ekected? I thought I read Jeb appointed her?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:41 PM (Fh8wK)

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She was appointed in '03 to fill a term by Yeb! After that she was elected.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 09:47 PM (ffYR/)

320 318 from people i've talked to, Hollyweird *gets* expert advice, but they ignore it for whatever the director thinks looks kewl...

Like how the hero can somehow manage to get a good sight picture when simultaneously firing pistols from the left and right hands.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:47 PM (lD3vL)

There's a really good scene with that in The Usual Suspects. In the parking garage fight, you see Stephen Baldwin lining up both pistols individually rather than John Woo-ing it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:48 PM (xJa6I)

321 have you considered the steyr aug or fn2000 in lieu of the tavor?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:48 PM (MTjB1)

322 Hey, I got 3000 fps from my cream of wheat!

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at November 18, 2018 09:48 PM (Tyii7)

323 Guns will be important when harvesting medical supplies and chicken noodle soup cans from Hilldog supporters in the freezing times.

Awww, you got chicken noodle soup? All I got was a bag of kale...

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 09:48 PM (QrTqV)

324
Well, my proposed gadget would not "predict" anything. What it would allow you to do is compare the effects of an unknown (or new) loading to the effects of known loadings with generally-accepted values of chamber pressure, and allow one to estimate the chamber pressure of the unknown.

And it would be easy to build from commonly-available metal stock.

And damn right, if I built one, I would arrange to operate it remotely, in case something went wrong.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:42 PM (fDU8w)
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There is some very good predictive software that can be used for this, with a very large library of powders and cartridges. One of the ones I use is Quickload, and I compare it to observations on the range (mostly velocity) but it also estimates pressures. Just mentioning it to demonstrate some of the tools available, not a substitute for bench tests.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:48 PM (MVjcR)

325 AOP, i missed that. Nosler's homepage might be informative.

Posted by: Gooshy at November 18, 2018 09:49 PM (Nberq)

326 314 Just got my first gun last week: a Ruger Mark IV (22LR), which is a lot of fun to learn the ins and outs on. Bought a Bersa Thunder (.380 ACP) today and can't wait to hit the range.

This is an addicting hobby
Posted by: In Exile at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (SDmIR)

It really is

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:49 PM (xJa6I)

327 > To remove a stuck projectile in a muzzleloader -or one loaded without powder (a surprisingly common mistake) one usually uses a screw attachment on the ramrod

They had bigger versions for use on cannon, if I remember right.

Especially with naval guns, you'd have to draw and replace the charge periodically because it would absorb moisture.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 09:49 PM (vOkuK)

328 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

I did not like the way the Tavor handled on the range. Not a rational reason, but it felt too clunky.

All the fine qualities you noted were part of my selection process, which is why I test fired the weapon. Plus Academy Sports had it in the online catalog.

I'll look into the X95. I want a left-handed CQB weapon, just because.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:50 PM (hyuyC)

329 312 If you were to weigh the finished cartridges, would a double-charge or no-charge stand out enough to notice?
Posted by: JB1000 at November 18, 2018 09:45 PM (WxYoh)
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With an accurate scale, it sure would.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:50 PM (MVjcR)

330 individually rather than John Woo-ing it.

The problem I have with John Woo-ing it, is getting the doves to fly around me when putting rounds down range.

Other than the dove problem, the RSO is usually forcefully removing from the range a few seconds into practicing some of those advanced techniques.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (lD3vL)

331 I have been giving very serious thought to a Kel Tec RFB in .308.

The wife has given a green light for another rifle purchase before the WA law goes into effect in Jan.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (xJa6I)

332 These days we can use pressurized air, as well, and people have been known to dribble enough powder down the touch hole or nipple to get the ball out of the barrel, though in the case of the latter you have to be careful not leave a gap between the powder and the ball.
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:40 PM (bZ7mE)

Slide a brass tube down the barrel from the muzzle end. Using a long-shanked drill bit, that just fits the I.D. of that brass tube, drill through the stuck bullet with a tap drill of appropriate size. For a .50 cal rifle, that might be 3/8" N.C. Tap the drilled hole, using a tap on a long shank. Wrap electrical tap around most of the tap so it cannot scratch the rifling. Withdraw the tap, and thread in a piece of threaded rod; attach to a slide hammer, and pull it out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (fDU8w)

333 330 individually rather than John Woo-ing it.

The problem I have with John Woo-ing it, is getting the doves to fly around me when putting rounds down range.

Other than the dove problem, the RSO is usually forcefully removing from the range a few seconds into practicing some of those advanced techniques.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:51 PM (lD3vL)

They really hate it when you take someone's Face Off.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 18, 2018 09:52 PM (xJa6I)

334
Can't wait to give it a whirl. That's when I'll be on the phone to Weasel!
Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:46 PM (sYLo5)
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All right!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

335 yankeefifth

Thanks. I'll look into them. Maybe we can hold off the freezing times. This is my Plan A.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 09:52 PM (hyuyC)

336 My problem with "hate crimes", apart from it being an exercise in mind reading, is that it is not applied uniformly. The left pretends they have this new objective principle, but it is really just an excuse for them to commit hate crimes and bash groups they are prejudiced against, and ignore the same hate crimes done by members of groups they favor.

So, it should be done away with. Stick to the original standard. Anything beyond intent does not add to the seriousness of the act, including any ideologies the perp may have had.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 09:53 PM (/qEW2)

337 I'll look into the X95. I want a left-handed CQB weapon, just because.

I would trade in my Tavor for a Desertech MDR in a heartbeat. Same bullpup packaging, lighter and far more accurate.

I think it would make an excellent Run & Gun rifle. Now to see how to get it suppressed for night matches.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 18, 2018 09:53 PM (lD3vL)

338 Thanks. I'll look into them. Maybe we can hold off the freezing times. This is my Plan A.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at N



would definitely be better if we could hold off the freezing times.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 18, 2018 09:54 PM (MTjB1)

339 Removing a misfired muzzleloader?

Why, just grab your Ball-Puller® and have at it!

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 09:54 PM (2eKoI)

340 After all, how card can it be? If you can shoot a 1" group at 100 yds, surely you can do 10" at a thousand!

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (sYLo5)

341 Well, good and gentle people, TWD is bout done and so am I. Gets up early, I does.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (zLDYs)

342 *prepares to be humbled at actual 1000 yd shoot*

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (sYLo5)

343 would definitely be better if we could hold off the freezing times.

Posted by: yankeefifth


Seriously.

All these fucking imbeciles pushing GoreBull Warmening as THE END OF THE WORLD have no idea what the true "resting" state of this planet is (hint - we are currently in a slightly warmer interglacial period IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ICE AGE) and has been for the last 20 million years:

MIND-FUCKINGLY COLD!!!

If only public policy was made in the US by people with brains, rather than ignorant people based on hysteria.

/Rant off

Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (2eKoI)

344 And there's the ONT. Thanks again, Weasel, for a fun, interesting, and informative thread.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (YJxmg)

345 #BREAKING: #BrendaSnipes has submitted her resignation.

Does she get to keep her 2nd pension? Hey, no hard feelings, Governor, right?

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (NAs56)

346 Having had this experience as a private pilot, concur. Fortunately I was on initial approach and could deadstick it in.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 09:43 PM (ffYR/)

I was a passenger in a Cessna 185 when that happened. On climb-out after takeoff, just when the pilot throttled back after the initial climb. Engine didn't outright quit, but pilot shut it off after we saw fuel streaming past the windows.

Fortunately, the plane was on floats, and there was lots of lake left, so he made a descending 180, and then another, and dead-sticked it into the wind. Very smooth landing. We then drifted down the lake while the float base sent out a motorboat to tow us in.

The mechanic had failed to tighten the fuel injector flare nuts on the freshly-installed engine.

And yes, once that was fixed, we took off again, without incident, and got to where I was going.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (fDU8w)

347 342 *prepares to be humbled at actual 1000 yd shoot*
Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:57 PM (sYLo5)
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I can coach you. No worries. Start measuring your neck for medals.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 10:00 PM (MVjcR)

348 Weasel, yankeefifth and Blue Bird of F'ing Joy, thank you.

Good information & lots to think about.

May you all have a wonderful night, full of on-target dreams.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 10:01 PM (hyuyC)

349 OK, that it for this week. Thanks everyone for making this fun!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (MVjcR)

350 Well, shootin' buds and budettes, that's about it tonight. Great info from everyone, especially our host.
And everyone, buy the Cookbook! We don't want to see blubell's shiv.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 10:02 PM (sYLo5)

351 340 After all, how card can it be? If you can shoot a 1" group at 100 yds, surely you can do 10" at a thousand!
Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:55 PM (sYLo5)
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You can hold the10 ring!! No problem.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 10:04 PM (MVjcR)

352 Bill Hickok drew and reloaded the charges in his cap and ball Navy pistols every morning while drinking his coffee.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 10:23 PM (yQpMk)

353 > Bill Hickok drew and reloaded the charges in his cap and ball Navy pistols every morning while drinking his coffee.

Cautious man. Too bad he screwed up the one time and didn't sit with his back to the wall, but that's all it takes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 10:28 PM (vOkuK)

354 "Have any of the reloaders among us had an accident (or a scare) related to reloading?"

**Action Jackson raises his hand sheepishly as he admits to being a reloading moron.**

Yep. I blew up my Glock with my own reload. Nobody got hurt, for which I am forever thankful.

I got started with reloading back in the Obama years when ammo of pretty much any caliber was unavailable, and even components were scarce. So when I came across a pistol powder that might work, I bought a lot of it. As it turns out, I probably bought a lifetime's supply.

Anyway, my powder is one of those which will allow me to double-fill a case. And I don't remember if the phone rang, or my wife needed me for something, or what it was, but somewhere along the line, I got out of my rhythm in reloading and ended up double charging a case.

I found the round when I was at an IDPA match. **Boom** it went, and I and everyone else knew that something had gone very wrong. The slide was totally locked up, and the explosion blew off the extractor from the right side of the frame and the slide release from the left side.

At the gunsmith the next day, he applied a carefully aimed mallet and got the slide open. The barrel was bulged, so that had to be replaced, as well as the missing parts that I'd blown off the gun. It wasn't until I got home and showed the barrel to my son that he noticed that I'd also cracked the chamber.

Mrs. Action Jackson was livid (not that I blame her), and read me the riot act. So now, I am **very** careful about distractions while I am reloading and after a reloading session, I set aside the ammo until I have a chance to weigh every single round. Anything too far off gets set back on the reloading bench for me to pull the bullets and start over.

Posted by: Action Jackson is my name. Bold Adventure is my game. at November 18, 2018 11:34 PM (kJuhe)

355 Yikes, Action Jackson. Don't know that I have to attention to detail to reload.

Posted by: In Exile at November 19, 2018 12:23 AM (SDmIR)

Food Thread: Subverting The Dominant Roasting Paradigm, One Microwaved Turkey At A Time

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Somebody has done it. You know it's true.

In reality, I'm pretty sure that it can be done. If I were to try, I would microwave the thing for about five minutes at a time, checking the internal temperature and then rotating it after every dose of microwave. It will undoubtedly heat very unevenly, so this is an important step.

My guess is that it would also give off a huge amount of moisture, so putting it into a container with a lip of some kind and then draining it periodically might be smart. I would reserve the liquid and make some sort of gravy with it. And when the internal temperature (checked in several different spots) reached a reasonable point, I would take it out, dry it off, and use a blow torch on it to brown the skin. Maybe even put it on the grill to get some crispiness.

So...who is going to try it? I'll toss in a two year Platinum membership with Troll-B-GonTM and ampersand utility for anyone who can provide documentary evidence of the cooking of a microwaved Thanksgiving turkey and it being consumed by human Morons.

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Hah! You thought you could get away with not buying another copy? Not a chance.

Seriously, the cookbook is loads of fun, is actually quite useful, and 100% of the profit goes to worthy causes.

Click on the cover art (or the link on the main page sidebar) to go to the Amazon page. It's easy! Buy two!

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There is so much disinformation about food safety that sometimes people lose sight of the fact that lots of people have studied it for a very long time. One of my pet peeves is the constant drumbeat that declares ridiculous target temperatures for cooked food. For instance, The USDA dropped its recommended minimum for pork from an astoundingly awful 160 degrees to a still-overcooked 145 degrees. They are obviously assuming that American pork is riddled with trichinosis, but it really isn't. Sure, if you buy a pig from a local farmer who feeds table scraps to his pigs and lets them do what pigs do (be cannibalistic), then assuming trichinosis is reasonable. But commercial pork? Nope...it's pretty damned safe.

Oh...that 145 degrees? They want you to cook your steak to that temperature. What's the term for more than well-done?

Lets get the food safety science right at Thanksgiving

It is a well-accepted fact that 100 percent of poultry products are contaminated with salmonella. You read right, 100 percent of the Thanksgiving turkeys carry salmonella. It is only the cooking to proper temperatures and the avoidance of cross contamination that stands between health and sickness.

Not quite, FSIS actually does a great job in reporting contamination levels of Salmonella in poultry, and shows that in turkey contamination is much lower (like only 1.7% positive in turkey). And campy is around the same.
I'm all for talking about food safety and risk reduction and using the holidays as a hook - but lets get the numbers right, avoid the fake news, and give people real risk information.

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Fermented foods are great! Yeah....it's not just beer and wine and booze; there are hundreds of other delicious things one can make using the power of yeast and bacteria. Here's a company [Hat Tip: redc1c4] that makes a nicely designed top for Mason jars in which you are making pickles or kimchi or whatever floats your boat. Obviously this can be done in a bunch of different ways, and the company itself is a bit too smug and hipsterish and touchy-feely for my taste, but the product is undeniably well designed.

How many of you do this stuff at home? I have made pickles, and a long time ago knew someone whose mother made the best kimchi in the world, but I almost always buy my fermented stuff (except for sourdough!).

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Yes, I am proud of that loaf, and will be boring you with my sourdough exploits until I move on to something different.

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She wanted to serve her guests mushroom-smothered steak, but she had no mushrooms and no time to buy them.

Her husband suggested, "Why don't you go pick some of the mushrooms that are growing wild down by the stream?

"No, some wild mushrooms are poisonous."

"Well, I see squirrels eating them and they're OK."

So she picked a bunch and washed, sliced and sauted them for her dinner.

Then she went out on the back porch and gave Spot, their dog, a double handful.

Spot ate every bite.

All morning long, she watched the dog.

The wild mushrooms hadn't affected him after a few hours, so she decided to use them.

The meal was a great success.

After everyone had finished, her daughter came in and whispered in her ear,
"Mum, Spot is dead."

Trying to keep her head about her, she left the room as quickly as possible, called the doctor and told him what had happened.

The doctor said, "That's bad, but I think we can take care of it. I'll call for an ambulance and I'll be there as quickly as I can. We'll give everyone enemas and we'll pump out their stomachs and everything will be fine. Just keep them calm."

Before long they started to hear the sirens as the ambulance tore down the road. The Paramedics and the doctor had their suitcases, syringes, and a stomach pump. One by one, they took each person into the bathroom, gave them an enema, and pumped out their stomach.

Well after midnight, after the last one was done the doctor came out and said, "Everything will be okay now," and with that he left.

The hosts and the guests were all weak and knackered sitting around the living room when the daughter came in and said to her mum.....

"I can't believe that guy!"

"What guy?"

"You know, that bastard who ran over Spot; He never even slowed down."

[Hat Tip: Blake]
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Brussels Sprouts are good...with bacon. Actually, they are great with bacon (as are all other foods), and reasonably good prepared in other ways. I think. I don't really know because bacon seems like the perfect ingredient to make them tasty, so why bother with anything else.

High heat, salt and pepper, some olive oil to get the browning started, lots of cut-up bacon, and you are good to go. This one of those foods that does not need multiple layers of flavor and lots of ingredients (in a pinch you can leave out the Brussels sprouts, the salt, the pepper and the olive oil).

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Pecan pie is something that I very rarely eat, but when I do it is a real pleasure. yes, they can be quite sweet, and sometimes they are too gloppy for their own good, but a well-executed pecan pie is a real treat. This year I will be adding chocolate, for no particular reason other than I have free will and a lot of chocolate, but mostly a lot of chocolate.

I looked at a fair number of recipes, and there is nothing out of the ordinary about chocolate in pecan pie, so I'm going to wing it. I did find this recipe for Maple Chocolate Pecan Pie, which seems a bit busy, but as long as you aren't using maple syrup on your French Toast, I'll allow it.

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Food and cooking tips, Haggis, young wild pigs, Scotch Eggs, thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 Bird is the word!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (kQs4Y)

2 That will never work

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (6VrXf)

3 My daughter just gave me an early Xmas present. She asked me to help her in stocking her bar with good but not extravagant liquor. This is right up my alley. The only thing better would be doing the same thing for my bar.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (T6t7i)

4 I'm doing a coffee brine a la Gronkowski this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feL14Qkb44o

Coffee brine, coffee-vanilla bacon lattice, and espresso gravy.

The recipes: https://tinyurl.com/ydeqpcgh

I can afford to experiment this year because it's just me, and heck, I'll eat it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (kQs4Y)

5 Eris' job to fetch the corgis

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (6VrXf)

6 Mmm, brussel sprouts. With bacony goodness!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:06 PM (WEBkv)

7 I use to have a very good selection of wine some years ago, barely can keep a few bottles now.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:07 PM (6VrXf)

8 I like brussel sprouts. But occasionally I can persuade the missus to make them with bacon and brown sugar, which is awesome.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (H5knJ)

9 That loaf of sourdough does look good.

I told the wife I need to try making pan seared steaks with garlic and butter.

So, it's on the menu and sometime in the next week, I'll give it a go.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (WEBkv)

10 When did the scare about not cooking stuffing in in the turkey start. I've heard about it for years, but we've always put stuffing in the turkey for as long as I can recall and nobody ever got sick. I'm planning to cook stuffing in the turkey this year. I hope we all survive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (AllCR)

11 Nom nom food thread!!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (fnWQo)

12 It is a well-accepted fact that 100 percent of poultry products are
contaminated with salmonella. You read right, 100 percent of the
Thanksgiving turkeys carry salmonella. It is only the cooking to proper
temperatures and the avoidance of cross contamination that stands
between health and sickness.


Also, turkeys cause global warming and shingles. True story!

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:10 PM (T6t7i)

13 "How many of you do this stuff at home?"

I have kombucha and "friendship bread" starter living next to each other on the counter. Just started new mixed veggie ferments (one soy/sesame and one sugar/vinegar) yesterday because I felt like the old ones weren't getting as good of a flavor any more.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:10 PM (uquGJ)

14 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (kQs4Y)

Sounds interesting and potentially wonderful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:11 PM (uquGJ)

15 It's been mentioned on other threads. MeTV is showing the WKRP in Cincinatti Turkey episode at 7:30 eastern tonight. Also, Youtube has a video of the whole episode if you don't get MeTV.

I've seen that show so many times and laugh like a loon every time. Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (758Rh)

16 Speaking of food safety, I have a bet with my wife. If you have some leftover meat, say turkey, you have enough to eat for a few days, keeping it refrigerated and all, then you decide to make, say quesadillas with it. Normally, the turkey is good for maybe 4-5 days before you have to throw out whats left. BUT, if you cook it again, say fry it or whatever, you know, for the quesadillas, does your timer start over again for the twice cooked turkey in the quesadilla's, and they might be good for another 4-5 days?
My wife says "no way, Jose", I say we're good to go for the extra.


Posted by: Last at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (8HiDF)

17 I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (lwiT4)

18
Scotch eggs: death pills.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (LsBY9)

19 I'm going to do low and slow turkey this year. My friends have done it at 200 degrees, but some fancy-pants guy at Splendid Table set his oven at 170. This just seems madness to me.

CBD or anyone, have you used this method before?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (kQs4Y)

20 When did the scare about not cooking stuffing in in the turkey start. I've heard about it for years, but we've always put stuffing in the turkey for as long as I can recall and nobody ever got sick. I'm planning to cook stuffing in the turkey this year. I hope we all survive.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (AllCR)
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Anymore, when I stuff a turkey, I put in onions, garlic and maybe a bit of fresh rosemary. Helps keep things moist.

Did one on a charcoal grill a few years ago and it was incredible. Bit of work keeping the grill going, but did that turkey have some flavor.

Glad we're eating soon!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (WEBkv)

21 Did the oven-cooked bacon thing last week. It was really nice to have all the bacon done at once and be able to work on the other food (pancakes) while it was cooking.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (uquGJ)

22 Wife bought these
https://nourishedessentials.com
and has already made some fermented sweet pickles... my favorite!

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (wcNiW)

23 Don't really use a microwave. When I was a single guy I had someone house/dog sitting for me, she rented some movies and picked up some microwave popcorn. Calls me up to find out where my microwave is, I told her I don't have one. Next day she calls to find out where I kept my iron, I had to tell her I don't have one of those either.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (Rz2Nc)

24 There are mushroom hunters who take people on hikes to ID the fungi. I met one recently, a 30 yr. old guy.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (HKPap)

25 Anymore, when I stuff a turkey, I put in onions, garlic and maybe a bit of fresh rosemary. Helps keep things moist.

It sounds good. Does it protect from death by salmonella?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (AllCR)

26
You can kill the bad taste of pecan pie with Ice Cream.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (b16/K)

27
Very orthodox Thanksgiving this year at Schloss Hadrian: turkey, scalloped potatoes, cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie. We've had lamb, roast, and cajun-seasoned duck in the past.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (LsBY9)

28 Speaking of buying the cookbook, have you bought the cookbook yet?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (MVjcR)

29 Posted by: Last at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (8HiDF)

Uhm...I routinely keep meat for two weeks (before any recooking which I wouldn't say restarts the clock but does push it back a bit) and none of us have ever gotten sick. I wouldn't want to keep it out on the counter endlessly before hand though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (uquGJ)

30 Rosemary is like cilantro. Hate them both. Also caraway seeds.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (lwiT4)

31 I will not accept the challenge to microwave a turkey. I would go to Hell.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (NMAzL)

32 Brine, brine BRINE your turkey and you will be amazed just how tender and juicy it is. I think the other key is the covered resting phase before carving.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (fnWQo)

33 Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (WEBkv)

I no longer particularly care for the taste of turkey, but grilled/smoked turkey is definitely wonderful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (uquGJ)

34
Oh, and ordered soup greens for the leftover turkey.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:17 PM (LsBY9)

35 Nice loaf there, CBD. Hat tip.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:17 PM (HKPap)

36 CBD, I would love to have your sourdough bread recipe. I have starter.

On another note, There is a gas stove top in the kitchen that is black glass. I hate is because it is such a b**ch to clean. Any ideas for replacement?

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (SzQWn)

37 If you do a slow cook method for turkey how long do you cook it and at what temperature?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (AllCR)

38 Why go to all the trouble to nuke the turkey? Put it in the oven with a thermometer.
Drink.

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (wcNiW)

39
Never much liked pecan pie, which is too sweet for my taste. Not to disparage it as a dessert.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (LsBY9)

40 Speaking of buying the cookbook, have you bought the cookbook yet?
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (MVjcR)

I just unpacked my copy - it's been hidden in a box since April.

Right now I'm zeroing in on Cajun-style fried chicken and a better-than-acceptable biscuit. Also, I've discovered a love of turnip greens doused with Texas Pete pepper juice. The ones made with ham hocks at Cracker Barrel are the best I've found so far.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (NMAzL)

41 I'm also in charge of the pies for Thanksgiving. Thank the good Lord for the Lake Geneva Pie Co.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (lwiT4)

42 Anymore, when I stuff a turkey, I put in onions, garlic and maybe a bit of fresh rosemary. Helps keep things moist.



It sounds good. Does it protect from death by salmonella?


Don't be silly. It only protects against vampire turkeys, which you've never seen because it works so well.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (T6t7i)

43 Wouldn't microwaving cause the texture to be different even if the turkey reached the same temperature? Ie. wouldn't it taste like warm, raw goop as opposed to oven baked? I thought bacon was the only sort of flesh you could microwave properly.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (/qEW2)

44 There is a spiffy good recipe for turkey on the grill in the cookbook.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (MVjcR)

45 >>Brussels Sprouts are good

This is wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

46 39


Never much liked pecan pie, which is too sweet for my taste. Not to disparage it as a dessert.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Totally agree. It's diabeetus on a plate.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (T6t7i)

47 Rosemary is one those spices/herbs that is too easy to over do. I buy cracked Rosemary and only use the tiniest of pinches. The flavor is there but more subtle. Before it was just too much and I didn*t ike it at all. It really is meant as a background flavor and is amazing on pork!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (fnWQo)

48 Slow bake turkey is some pound per time equation, all in all a good time tested way to do it. I am sure thats how my aunt will cook hers.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (6VrXf)

49 Polliwog yesterday's garden thread made reference to fermented food benefitting our health. Can you share some kombucha tips? Buying it is so expensive!

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (HKPap)

50 Here's another cocktail which is guaranteed to be delight pre-dinner on Thanksgiving.

From roughly the 1850s, via the Waldorf Astoria cocktail book from 1935-

The Emerson

2 oz Old Tom Gin*
1 oz Sweet red Vermouth**
.5 oz fresh lime juice
.1 oz Maraschino liqueur

Shake with ice. Strain into cocktail glass. Drink!

This one is really nice. Perfectly balanced as these classic cocktails tend to be.


* I used Hammer and Son Old English Gin
* I used Contratto Vermouth Rosa

But use what you wish/like.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (9X624)

51 45
>>Brussels Sprouts are good



This is wrong.


It is known.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (T6t7i)

52 We had about 15 people over for a Thanksgiving dinner one year, and after the turkey was in the oven for a couple of hours we discovered the oven was broken and the turkey was uncooked. Everyone was getting hungry, so in desperation I threw it into the microwave for about an hour and a half. It came out perfect.

Posted by: Angel Artiste at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (CqqFJ)

53 Never much liked pecan pie, which is too sweet for my taste. Not to disparage it as a dessert.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (LsBY9)

I wonder if I could make one with only half to one third of the super-sweet filling. It could work if the crust is flaky enough.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (NMAzL)

54
Brussels sprouts, wax beans, creamed corn: Satan's veggies.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (LsBY9)

55 It sounds good. Does it protect from death by salmonella?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (AllCR)
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No, but it might protect one from unwanted advances!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (WEBkv)

56 >>Brussels Sprouts are good



This is wrong.

It is known.
Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (T6t7i)

They're really tasty when halved and roasted with EVOO and salt and pepper.

My SiL picks all of the leaves apart and sautees them.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (NMAzL)

57 Kenji Lopez-Alt has a good discussion of safe food temperatures in which he explains that safety is a product of both temperature AND time. If internal temperature is lower, it needs to be cooked longer to kill dangerous bacteria. For example, a boneless chicken breast cooked sous vide at 136 F needs to be cooked for 68.4 minutes to reach the USDA's standard for killing bacteria.

Entire article is here: https://tinyurl.com/ybqcd8uv

The 165 F number is premised on the idea that the food cooks for basically no time at all. That temp is sufficient to incinerate bacteria--and most of the flavor--almost instantly.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (S+f+m)

58 That top photo reminded me of our first Thanksgiving in the new-to-us house. My in-laws had come out from Wisconsin. One third of the way through roasting the turkey the oven died. No warning, no hesitation, it just died.

We thought about finishing it in our tiny microwave but it was too big to fit so I hacked it in two. But the thing just wasn't powerful enough. So we had a hacked up, mostly raw turkey and no way to cook it. It was not a pretty sight. We ate out that year for Thanksgiving.

Our Christmas present from Mrs. JTB's parents a few weeks later was one of the larger Nesco cookers. We've used that for the turkey for the last 30-plus years. It works.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (758Rh)

59 Which pies are you getting grammie?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (HKPap)

60 17 I am making jello for Thanksgiving.
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Squints critically...
With shaved carrots, or mini marshmallows?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (uBX7f)

61

Brussels Sprouts taste like DIRT.

The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (b16/K)

62 I would not use time/weight charts.
Use a meat thermometer!!

I seriously doubt whether the bird really is better at 200 degrees rather than 275, or even 325.
We aren't talking ribs with collagen or anything.

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (wcNiW)

63
Artichokes. Now there's a tasty veggie.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:24 PM (b16/K)

64 47 Rosemary is one those spices/herbs that is too easy to over do. I buy cracked Rosemary and only use the tiniest of pinches. The flavor is there but more subtle. Before it was just too much and I didn*t ike it at all. It really is meant as a background flavor and is amazing on pork!
Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (fnWQo)
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Where my wife and I live, rosemary is is pretty much a weed. We just go out and hack off a few stalks and away we go.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (WEBkv)

65 Hey everybody, again.

If I had the money, I think I would get a turkey fryer. I've heard so many people tell me how incredibly tasty fried turkey is.

I also very much like the idea of being able to fry 30 chicken wings at a time. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (miE9U)

66 The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (b16/K)

Well duh.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (NMAzL)

67

Pastene, I think, makes little jars of artichoke hearts marinated in some liquid...vinegar?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (b16/K)

68 45 >>Brussels Sprouts are good compost material

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM

Fixed it for us

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (6VrXf)

69 I use rosemary on my venison backstraps and lamb both.
Olive oil, thyme, rosemary, garlic and salt.
Only way I think it's good is to cook it on the grill. I do NOT like it in sauces.

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (wcNiW)

70 Which pies are you getting grammie?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (HKPap)


Pumpkin, because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to. Raspberry/Blackberry, because at least you can call it a fruit, and daughter will thereby maybe, just maybe, let the grandkids have some. She's a food nazi.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

71 Brussels Sprouts taste like DIRT.



The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.



Seriously. Who would eat those things voluntarily? At least add some garlic.

Posted by: Escargot at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (T6t7i)

72 Brussels Sprouts taste like DIRT.

The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (b16/K)

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Wow, the thread is infested with a bunch of cooking savages. Next thing you know, they'll be talking about putting syrup on waffles.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (WEBkv)

73 There are many dried, cured versions of ham that aren't cooked. I wonder what would happen if you tried that with turkey. Rub salt all over it then hang in a low humidity room for several months. Turksciutto.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (/qEW2)

74 I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types? I*m looking to see what i don*t know!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (fnWQo)

75 Everyone was getting hungry, so in desperation I threw it into the microwave for about an hour and a half. It came out perfect.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (CqqFJ)
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THis is like a holiday miracle complete with culinary angel visitation. No way you can microwave a turkey!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (kQs4Y)

76 I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM

Hey, grammie. I can top that. Was 'spose to go to SIL's and she was cooking. However, son calls and says he's coming home to surprise Mom. (She's been under the weather.)

So instead of going out to get all the fixins I placed order with Cracker Barrel for the whole dinner. Couple hours in the oven, and voila': Turkey and sides for 10-12.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (Dhht7)

77 Squints critically...

With shaved carrots, or mini marshmallows?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (uBX7f)



No this time I'm dumping a bag of frozen mixed fruit into it. Again, so the little ones are allowed to eat it, because, fruit.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (lwiT4)

78 I will not accept the challenge to microwave a turkey. I would go to Hell.

Only if hell is a place of intense fire caused by stupidity in cooking turkeys. I don't recall that in any of my theology classes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (AllCR)

79 76 I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM

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With or without grated carrots?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (WEBkv)

80
I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types?

The type that's in ice cream.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (LsBY9)

81 Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (HKPap)

I watched a bunch of YouTube videos before starting. It does take a purchased bottle, if you don't want to buy a SCOBY, and some patience. I completely ignored the stuff about organic tea/sugar/etc. and it seems to be working. I opted for green tea because I had a new box of 100 bags and have used a couple different sugars with no apparent ill affects to the SCOBY.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (uquGJ)

82 I think at least one of the major fires raging right now in California was caused by someone trying to microwave an entire Thanksgiving turkey... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (miE9U)

83 Hits the spot

Posted by: That bastard at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (aKsyK)

84

No this time I'm dumping a bag of frozen mixed fruit into it. Again, so the little ones are allowed to eat it, because, fruit.


Also dump a bag of Candy Corn into it.

Corn is healthy, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (b16/K)

85 So instead of going out to get all the fixins I
placed order with Cracker Barrel for the whole dinner. Couple hours
in the oven, and voila': Turkey and sides for 10-12.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (Dhht7)



Good thinking! And no prep or clean-up! I would do that if it was just us. As it stands, my kids actually like to cook. So I stand there with a glass in my hand, watching them.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (lwiT4)

86 gramme winger, do what I do. Sculpt an entire turkey out of pumpkin pie filling and ReddiWip.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:30 PM (miE9U)

87 *fistbump* on the napkins, grammie.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

88 Sooth - yes, corn is very good. I'll try it!

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:30 PM (lwiT4)

89 23 Don't really use a microwave. When I was a single guy I had someone house/dog sitting for me, she rented some movies and picked up some microwave popcorn. Calls me up to find out where my microwave is, I told her I don't have one. Next day she calls to find out where I kept my iron, I had to tell her I don't have one of those either.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (Rz2Nc)

As a single guy, I'm ashamed to say, "check" and "check."

No microwave. No iron.

I do have a frying pan though. And a cutting board! AND a wine bottle opener.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 04:31 PM (GBteo)

90 We make our own vanilla, a few beans split down center and a small bottle of vodka. Takes a good month but after that you will not run out for years. Just replenished a few beans and vodka after maybe 10 years.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (6VrXf)

91 Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (lwiT4)

Something they have at the market which is adorable is a small sculpted butter shaped like a turkey. If I was having a fancy-schmantzy lovely decorated table I might get that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (AllCR)

92 Home made pickled veggies, like sauerkraut, are superior to the commercial stuff. I have a device simialr to CBD's link in the post but haven't used it yet. It is easy to do lacto-fermented veggies and instructions are all over the internet. There are major health benefits to the process as well. I've done kraut, Greek yogurt, kafir and sourdough bread. Takes time for the process but it isn't difficult.

That sourdough bread looks fantastic. I have to get my sourdough starter going again.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (758Rh)

93 Does an AoSHQ Platinum Membership include an indulgence for Maple Syrup on French Toast?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (DMUuz)

94 Brussels sprouts have a pleasant, mildly bitter taste, though I prefer the more intense bitterness of broccoli rabe, its close relative.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (/qEW2)

95 Rosemary infused olive oil is nice to drizzle over roasted potatoes.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (HKPap)

96 Duncanthrax: CBD says no, everyone else says yes. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (miE9U)

97 Something they have at the market which is adorable is a small sculpted butter shaped like a turkey. If I was having a fancy-schmantzy lovely decorated table I might get that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (AllCR)
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I'm going to keep my eye out for one of those. My wife would like it and it would be fun to put on our table for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (WEBkv)

98
Earlier I queried about "lime rickeys."

Limerick. Lime ricky. Anyway...

Lime Rickeys are enjoyed by people who like Odd Things, such as rhubarb pie and dark chocolate.

btw, I could not, for the life of me, tell you what's in a lime ricky.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (b16/K)

99 She asked me to help her in stocking her bar with good but not extravagant liquor.
Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM


Just make sure all whiskeys have an 'e' in them, and are decent, and you'll be good to go.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (DMUuz)

100 Turkey butters at thanksgiving
Tree butters at Christmas
Lamb butters at Easter
These are midwestern traditions!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (fnWQo)

101 I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types? I*m looking to see what i don*t know!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:27


Probably too late, but a few years ago a friend gave me a bottle of some high end vodka. I bought some vanilla beans on Amazon and made vanilla extract. Had some fancy bottles and made some spiffy labels on the printer and viola, Christmas gifts.

Still using the bottle I have. IIRC, I started soaking the beans in early October. Left the beans in.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (SzQWn)

102 Soothsayer: a lime ricky is easy.

Just mix together some lime juice, rum and some of the cremated ashes of Desi Arnaz...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (miE9U)

103 And contrary to the post this AM,

It's Pee-can

Posted by: golfman at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (GL/05)

104 >>>It is easy to do lacto-fermented veggies and instructions are all over the internet. There are major health benefits to the process as well.

Don't go there. This is the food thread. We only deal with one end of the alimentary canal.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (/qEW2)

105 Speaking of pickles, KT's gardening thread from yesterday has a link to pickling cranberries in various ways. Definitely wrth checking out.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (758Rh)

106 https://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/lime-rickey

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (miE9U)

107
Just make sure all whiskeys have an 'e' in them, and are decent

The stuff that says "Wiskee" on the label will make you go blind.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (LsBY9)

108 And contrary to the post this AM,

It's Pee-can
Posted by: golfman at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (GL/05)


Only if you can't find it in bottles or on tap.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (t+qrx)

109 Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (WEBkv)

Just wanted to clarify that it's shaped like a live turkeys with feathers-not a frozen turkey which would not be as fun. I found it in the section with egg nog which was odd, not with the regular butter section.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (AllCR)

110 81. thanks Polli! I don't know what a SCOBY is?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (HKPap)

111 The stuff that says "Wiskee" on the label will make you go blind.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (LsBY9)


NOW you tell me!!

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (miE9U)

112 Damn that's some fine cover art on The Deplorable Gourmet.

There are drawings on the inside, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (fuK7c)

113 He wouldn't eat his goddam mushrooms.

Posted by: just the punchline at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (fDU8w)

114 kallisto, you've never heard of SCOBY-Doo?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (miE9U)

115 turkey contamination is much lower (like only 1.7% positive in turkey)

Only 1.7%? You're wasting a lot of money on sanitary work habits, gringuitos...

Posted by: "Honduran" "Refugees" at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (NpvYf)

116 Only if hell is a place of intense fire caused by stupidity in cooking turkeys. I don't recall that in any of my theology classes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (AllCR)

I think it falls under some category of willfully doing the Devil's work.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (NMAzL)

117 Congratulations to Senator Rick Scott and governor Ron Desantis.


And also to Marco Rubio, US Rep Matt Gaetz, and AG Pam Biondi for showing a rare occurrence of Republicans with a spine.

Please go to Arizona and give a seminar to those GOP wimps

Posted by: Jonah at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (HrSJb)

118
It's Pee-can

*sniffs superciliously*

Sophisticated Europeans pronounce it "Pee-saan."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (LsBY9)

119 There are drawings on the inside, too.

I love the last page. My favorite part.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (CE5C/)

120 Eris' job to fetch the corgis
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (6VrXf)

So she's the one who left me Willowed in the last thread?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (fDU8w)

121 I have a book about pickling that I've found very helpful. "Fermented Vegetables: Creative Recipes for Fermenting 64 Vegetables & Herbs in Krauts, Kimchis, Brined Pickles, Chutneys, Relishes & Pastes" by Kirsten Shockey.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (758Rh)

122
I love conversations that go like this:

Are you hungry?
Yeah, I could eat.



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (b16/K)

123 Scuttlebutt continues to circulate that bluebell and Weasel are at work on Volume II of TDG.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (DMUuz)

124 Hi all...

Been making a big ass pot of turkey broth today. Roasted 4 ginormous turkey wings with onions, carrots, S/P. Drizzled with olive oil and some butter. Roasted for about 1 1/2 hours+ @ 400. Got them nice and golden. Then moved everything to a big stock pot...added fresh thyme, sage, more S/P and enough water to cover. Deglazed the pan they were roasted in to get the good brown bits and have been simmering it for a while.

Smells good in here.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (cF8AT)

125 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (AllCR)
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Thanks.

Hopefully, those are available on the left coast.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (WEBkv)

126 Only 1.7%? You're wasting a lot of money on sanitary work habits, gringuitos...

Left out a term in the sock, dammit!

Posted by: "Honduran" "Refugee" "Families" at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (98WNR)

127 51 45
>>>Brussels Sprouts are good



>> This is wrong.

> It is known.

You are all correct. Attempting to cover up the "Satan's flatulence" smell and taste of Brussels Sprouts with bacon would simply be a waste of good bacon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (vOkuK)

128 When did the scare about not cooking stuffing in in the turkey start. I've heard about it for years, but we've always put stuffing in the turkey for as long as I can recall and nobody ever got sick. I'm planning to cook stuffing in the turkey this year. I hope we all survive.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (AllCR)

I'm sure you will. Same deal in my family, for years. But I think one should take all of the stuffing out of the bird before refrigerating the unconsumed part of the carcass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (fDU8w)

129 No microwave. No iron.

I do have a frying pan though. And a cutting board! AND a wine bottle opener.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 04:31 PM (GBteo)

This describes my kitchen.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (NMAzL)

130 74 I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types? I*m looking to see what i don*t know!
Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (fnWQo)

If you are close to Costco or Sam's clubs, they have a very large bottle of pure vanilla that is about 16 bucks, and it's pretty good. One of those lasts me about 3 months. (We love and respect vanilla in our household.)

Trader Joe's has bourbon vanilla that is very good, and is about 6-8 bucks for 8 ounces. I have been happy with the baked goods I have made with that.

If you want to splurge, get Nielsen Massey. High end grocery stores should carry it, or you can order from Williams Sonoma or King Arthur Flour. It's expensive, but is absolutely divine. This is my stocking request every year. Because vanilla.

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (mFoNl)

131 The NYT has yet to call Florida. They did call Georgia. They have Mia Love ahead by about 600 votes in Utah.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (lwiT4)

132 >>>So...who is going to try it? I'll toss in a two year Platinum membership with Troll-B-GonTM
and ampersand utility for anyone who can provide documentary evidence
of the cooking of a microwaved Thanksgiving turkey and it being consumed
by human Morons.<<<

Hmm. Throw in a pair of those schlong trousers with extra girth, and I'll see if I can find somebody from the trailer park side of the family to sample it.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (Z9C5C)

133 Speaking of French toast have sausage patty this weak for breakfast. Have bagels, a English muffin for sausage egg and cheese breakfast sammy.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (6VrXf)

134 Shrimp jalapeño poppers would make a lovely snack right about now.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (fnWQo)

135 I forgot to say I do this to have a shit ton of gravy...hate not having enough gravy.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (cF8AT)

136 >>I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Heh! One of my contributions will be store-bought Panera mac'n cheese in a casserole dish, because my son is a super picky eater. I don't even want to get into the various dietary needs of both sides of my family (some medical, some not). *Rolls eyes*

I love my family and accommodate, wherever we celebrate - would never dream of telling, say, the vegetarian SIL to step off. It just makes it more , er, creative sometimes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (W+vEI)

137 Scuttlebutt continues to circulate that bluebell and Weasel are at work on Volume II of TDG.

I may have a few thousand recipes to add after your deadlines have passed...

Posted by: Brenda Snipes at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (98WNR)

138 I've got my traditional Swanson's Hungry Man turkey dinner, so I'm ready for Thanksgiving.

And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (sdi6R)

139 Wegmans had the little turkey butter sculptures.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (kQs4Y)

140 Your sourdough loaf is gorgeous, CBD!!
Impressed.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (W+vEI)

141 And contrary to the post this AM,

It's Pee-can
Posted by: golfman at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (GL/05)


Don't be so nit pecan.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (/qEW2)

142 I've started a new tradition with breakfast. I have a cup of Yorkshire Gold tea with a tiny amount of sweetner and milk. It's smooth and just slightly sweet and goes very well with the meal. I have my black, perked coffee after breakfast.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (758Rh)

143
Just asked Her Majesty if I was a rat bastard for not getting her a Lexus for Christmas. She replied I was a rat bastard for not getting her a Class-C RV for Christmas.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (LsBY9)

144 I think it falls under some category of willfully doing the Devil's work.Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (NMAzL)

Only if it was your devilish intention to possibly kill of some people in your home or the firefighters who came to put out the fire. I think the devil is not so interested in home cooking with non nefarious purposes. The Bible says Satan comes to "kill, steal and destroy" but it didn't mean simply Thanksgiving stupidity.


Are you and the man going somewhere or just having TG on your own?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (AllCR)

145 100 Turkey butters at thanksgiving
Tree butters at Christmas
Lamb butters at Easter
These are midwestern traditions!
Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (fnWQo)

I've only seen the Easter lamb, I'll keep my eyes open for the others.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (Rz2Nc)

146 Only if hell is a place of intense fire caused by stupidity in cooking turkeys. I don't recall that in any of my theology classes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM


Your professors probably leaned to the theoretical, and as one of the preeminent philosophers of the 20th Century, Peter Lawrence Berra observed, "The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is none, but in practice, there is."

Y'all come on over to Texas for Thanksgiving, and you'll have your pick of at least 20 or 30 intense fires resulting from attempts to deep-fry a turkey.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (DMUuz)

147
And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.

Posted by: rickl


Cook? Ooooh, master chef!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:44 PM (LsBY9)

148 139 Wegmans had the little turkey butter sculptures.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (kQs4Y)



I KNOW!!!!!!! They are adorable. And half price after Thanksgiving.

How are you doing, Eris?!

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:44 PM (mFoNl)

149 We've been happy with Rodelle vanilla.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (S+f+m)

150 120 Eris' job to fetch the corgis
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (6VrXf)

So she's the one who left me Willowed in the last thread?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (fDU8w)

Sorry, babies, I'm always chasing the next skwerl.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (kQs4Y)

151 I'm going to keep my eye out for one of those. My wife would like it and it would be fun to put on our table for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM

They also make molds so you can make your own turkey butter pats. Here's one from Wally World. It's for chocolate but works for butter.

https://tinyurl.com/y8m7oehv

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (Dhht7)

152 After reading this thread, I'm starting to think I was some kind of weirdo because I cooked all the time when I was single.

Make a large meal, leftovers for lunch the next day.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (WEBkv)

153 The 165 F number is premised on the idea that the food cooks for basically no time at all. That temp is sufficient to incinerate bacteria--and most of the flavor--almost instantly.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (S+f+m)

That must be why all deep-fried foods are so tasteless and disgusting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (fDU8w)

154 My wife's cousin passed away yesterday. On the bright side, having to go to my Mother-in-Laws for Thanksgiving is cancelled. This will be the first time since 1988 that we haven't made to trek to the armpit of Alabama.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (yQpMk)

155 The funny thing about brussel sprouts is depending on how you make them they can be incredibly savory, incredibly sweet or neutral in taste and act like a palette cleanser.

I often have brussel sprouts in my main menus and usually make enough during the holidays so that pretty much everyone can eat their weights worth if they want to.

Gin Gimlets also help.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (qxq6t)

156 Cheribebe, mmmm :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (miE9U)

157 Y'all come on over to Texas for Thanksgiving, and you'll have your pick of at least 20 or 30 intense fires resulting from attempts to deep-fry a turkey.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (DMUuz)


Open, or in a pressure cooker?

https://stoatnet.org/kitchenremodel.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (t+qrx)

158 She replied I was a rat bastard for not getting her a Class-C RV for Christmas.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (LsBY9)


Phtttt. You should spring for the Class A. A Prevost, daggone it.

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (mFoNl)

159 On the down side, always good eats at the MiL's Thanksgiving spread.

It will be missed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (yQpMk)

160 That should be Lawrence Peter Berra.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (DMUuz)

161 Okay gravy makers; what do you use?
Arrowroot?
Cornstarch?
Flour/roux?
Cream, potato water and/or stock?

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (fnWQo)

162 112 Damn that's some fine cover art on The Deplorable Gourmet.

There are drawings on the inside, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (fuK7c)
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Yeah! Its a cookbook and an art book! Buy one today! Black Friday pricing is now in effect - only $14.99!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (MVjcR)

163 I NEVER use the microwave to defrost meat. EXCEPT, I had to. What a great surprise. I used the defrost button. It wanted the weight of the item. I entered it (It took me several attempts to get that right). Voila! Perfectly defrosted meat. It's not all full power with pauses. It must be a lower output mode.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (3HNOQ)

164 I was raised to cook the turkey empty not for reasons of salmonella, but for even cooking. Empty cavity (not counting loose veggies and garlic) lets heat in the inside.

Full cavity makes the heat all come in from the outside.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (fuK7c)

165 Nelson has finally conceded the Florida senate race to Rick Scott.

Posted by: DocJ at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (IbD2v)

166 Weasel, are you and bluebell taking recipes for Deplorable Cookbook II?

Because if so, I think I would have one or two recipes to share.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (miE9U)

167 Pumpkin, because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

(sobs unconsolably)

Posted by: Gamera at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (fDU8w)

168 Okay gravy makers; what do you use?




Heinz has gravy in a jar. I think I have one around here somewhere.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (lwiT4)

169 Well, I guess that news is 2-hours old, but for whatever reason I only just now saw it on DC. Carry on.

Posted by: DocJ at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (IbD2v)

170 > It's not all full power with pauses. It must be a lower output mode.

Yeah, defrost mode on microwaves is lower power.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (vOkuK)

171 JAS, I just got a new microwave and it asks the same thing, how many ounces are you defrosting.

You enter it, and it actually does a good job. Me thinks micronuke tech is getting a little better these days...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (miE9U)

172 My firefighter brother loved making deep-fried turkey when we were invited over for Thanksgiving and insisted that peanut oil was the only right kind. While it made for a moist turkey produced with plenty of entertaining antics in the back yard, the drawback was NO GRAVY!!! I ask you, how can there be turkey with NO GRAVY? Gotta have my gravy, that's the whole point! I blamed this blasphemy on the SIL, who's a humorless vegan (I suppose we should have been grateful that she even allowed any meat in their house).

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (CIkpt)

173 Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (HKPap)

Symbiotic Colony Of Bacteria & Yeast. It's the "mushroom" that causes kombucha to be called mushroom tea.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (uquGJ)

174 Open, or in a pressure cooker?

https://stoatnet.org/kitchenremodel.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM


Generally open. The lid embedded in the ceiling in the picture is a nice touch, though!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (DMUuz)

175 I wonder if food safety varies by an individual's genetics? Like if someone had a really acidic stomach, they could safely cook turkey or pork at much lower temps. It would be hard to test though without inducing vomiting, so probably not worth it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (/qEW2)

176 I've got my traditional Swanson's Hungry Man turkey dinner, so I'm ready for Thanksgiving.

And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (sdi6R)

Fancy, fancy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (GBteo)

177 Y'all come on over to Texas for Thanksgiving, and you'll have your pick of at least 20 or 30 intense fires resulting from attempts to deep-fry a turkey.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (DMUuz)
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And yet, there are plenty of youtube videos wherein the turkey chef is deep frying well down the driveway away from any structures.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (WEBkv)

178 And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.
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Talk about old skool. And here I am, still not allowed to use the oven without supervision.

Kidlet and I are planning our Thanksgiving breakfast foods so she and siblings can hit the sales in time. Then I can go to back to bed and ignore everything.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (MIKMs)

179 tankascribe, try some good ol' Heinz turkey gravy :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (miE9U)

180 How are you doing, Eris?!
Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:44 PM (mFoNl)

I'm doing well, thanks. I'm itching to start cooking!

I finally sorted through all the recipes I cut out and printed and promptly forgot. I think I use about 5 of them. I'm putting them into protective sheets in a binder.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (kQs4Y)

181
123 Scuttlebutt continues to circulate that bluebell and Weasel are at work on Volume II of TDG.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (DMUuz)
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Are you trying to get me killed?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (MVjcR)

182 Troll-B-GonTM

* Doesn't work

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (FhXTo)

183 My daughter just gave me an early Xmas present. She
asked me to help her in stocking her bar with good but not extravagant
liquor. This is right up my alley. The only thing better would be doing
the same thing for my bar.


Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (T6t7i)

Yes it is a wonderful thing when your children are wealthier than you.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (3HNOQ)

184 Look it wont even c+p the TM

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (FhXTo)

185 CBD, Be ready to throw the turkey to the dogs and take the microwave to goodwill, and thanks for the brussells sprouts/bacon reminder, don't forget to add mushrooms.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (zLDYs)

186 I forgot to say I do this to have a shit ton of gravy...hate not having enough gravy.
Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (cF8AT)

Making turkey neck gravy ahead of time has made the Thanksgiving feast less stressful. Then I make a fresh batch for the leftovers.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (NMAzL)

187 Passing this along from Tami this morning as a yummy idea for gluten-vegetarian friendly side: Maple-Dijon Brussels Leaf Salad

https://tinyurl.com/yahtzvlt

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (W+vEI)

188 Weren't Brussel Sprouts genetically engineered to poison vermin? Unfortunately, the French got a hold on them, and so here we are.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (Z9C5C)

189 https://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/lime-rickey
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (miE9U)

So basically a gin Margarita. (brightens up a little)

Posted by: Gamera at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (fDU8w)

190 Gotta have my gravy, that's the whole point! I blamed this blasphemy on the SIL, who's a humorless vegan (I suppose we should have been grateful that she even allowed any meat in their house).
Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM


??? The drippings from tofurkey make a fine accompaniment.

Posted by: Why yes I'm a Vegan, Why do you ask? at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (DMUuz)

191 Gotta take off for now - meeting publius' parents for dinner. Pray for me.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (NMAzL)

192
I finally sorted through all the recipes I cut out and printed and promptly forgot. I think I use about 5 of them. I'm putting them into protective sheets in a binder.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (kQs4Y)



And standing, front and center and proud, will be the banana cranberry candelabra, yes??!!

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (mFoNl)

193 Turkey neck gravy?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (lwiT4)

194 I've deep fried, plain roasted, brined, spachcocked and the for the last 2 years used a roasting bag to cook a turkey.

Everyone likes different methods but for me the bag wins hands down. Evenly cooked, can still make gravy and seems to cook faster.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (cF8AT)

195 Posted by: DocJ at November 18, 2018 04:48

I went to FoxNews and have a pic of Nelson up that looks like a human being!

Posted by: Farmer at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (T5tjg)

196 qdpsteve, may G-d strike you dead for such a blasphemous suggestion! (gasps) That store-bought crap is only good for stretching the good stuff two days afterward (disdainful sniff).

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (CIkpt)

197 Brussels sprouts are Satan's dingleberries.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (NWiLs)

198 166 Weasel, are you and bluebell taking recipes for Deplorable Cookbook II?

Because if so, I think I would have one or two recipes to share.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (miE9U)
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bluebell has made it very clear that I would die slowly from puncture wounds if I ever talk about another cookbook.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (MVjcR)

199 I wonder if food safety varies by an individual's genetics? Like if someone had a really acidic stomach, they could safely cook turkey or pork at much lower temps.


I don't know if it's nature or nurture but I can eat old and "off" foods without any reaction worse than the occasional ... err .. loose shits. Growing up, we just cut the mold off and ate whatever.

On the other hand, Mrs928 has a surprisingly sensitive stomach.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (yQpMk)

200 Are you and the man going somewhere or just having TG on your own?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (AllCR)

No firm plans, but I'm off the hook as far as making the dinner this year.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (NMAzL)

201 You always have the pluck to make gravy with.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (yQpMk)

202 tankascribe and Weasel, never mind then :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (miE9U)

203 And standing, front and center and proud, will be the banana cranberry candelabra, yes??!!
Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (mFoNl)
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I need to make that the cover picture! Thanks for the idea.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (kQs4Y)

204 Wonder if my local Popeye's will have the fried turkey?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (HKPap)

205 > Weren't Brussel Sprouts genetically engineered to poison vermin?

I remember that way back when, France had only short-range nuclear missiles, so they were basically only capable of nuking the hell out of Belgium.

Someone at the time observed that this might've been in retaliation for inventing Brussels Sprouts.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (vOkuK)

206 I'd have to think a turkey cooked that way would be horrible. In general, a microwave doesn't do a good job cooking meat properly.

Heating, yes, cooking, no. I'd expect something the texture of an inner tube.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (oVJmc)

207 Making turkey neck gravy ahead of time has made the Thanksgiving feast less stressful. Then I make a fresh batch for the leftovers.

Miley, got a recipe for that? I'd like to try it!

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (CIkpt)

208 It's the end of an era in Famiglia Bander. Mommy has always hosted Thanksgiving, but at 84 it's too much and we're all meeting at a restaurant.

I offered to do the cooking* but she claimed that the other aging relatives didn't want to travel either and the restaurant was the better part of valour. So now it's down to my cousin Kathy who hosts Christmas to keep the family together.

*(There was one year when Mommy had just had a surgery and I got to cook everything. I thought it was great, she'd just be in the bedroom and I'd call out when dinner was served. Instead she ensconced herself in a comfy chair in the corner of the kitchen and called out criticisms of every move I made. Then complimented me when everything came out perfect. Am I oversharing?)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (fuK7c)

209 202 tankascribe and Weasel, never mind then :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (miE9U)
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But hold onto them just In case.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (MVjcR)

210 Are you trying to get me killed?
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM


Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.

Between that, and the fact that bluebell is one of the finest ladies I had the pleasure to meet at the TXMoMe, you'll be fine.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

211 No firm plans, but I'm off the hook as far as making the dinner this year.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (NMAzL)

Way to go!. Congrats! I've been together with FenSpouse since 1987 I don't get a reprieve from cooking. LOL He did say he would help and we're not having many people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (AllCR)

212 Bander, do you cook Thanksgiving dinner in a sarong too?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (kQs4Y)

213 My youngest turned 31 today. He requested garish socks for his present.

Apparently that is a thing where he works. LOUD and OUTRAGEOUS socks.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (yQpMk)

214 **TOP FIVE RECIPES FROM DEPLORABLE COOKBOOK II**

5. Cornish game hen stuffed with missing Broward ballots

4. Peruvian bathtub "whiskey"

3. Caravan Road Chili, with secret migrant spices

2. Deep-fried roadkill, Mexican-style

1. Spatcocked Sinema Surprise

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (miE9U)

215 Bander, do you cook Thanksgiving dinner in a sarong too?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM


You're foreshadowing a musical, aren't you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:58 PM (DMUuz)

216 A thread on another forum got into a discussion of booze, mostly whisky, used in the colonies and early America. That brought up Pusser's Rum. It's supposed to be the same recipe the British Navy served on board ship for over 300 years. The Brits discontinued the daily ration in the 1970s and someone bought the rights to make it for the public.

I'm no expert but this is a very good sipping rum. It has a slight smoky quality to go with the sweetness of dark rum It is smooth and 84 proof so it won't singe your throat. I'm going to add it to the boozes I enjoy.

BTW, Pusser is a corruption of 'purser', the one who dispensed the liquor on board ship.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:58 PM (758Rh)

217 Oops, that should be spatchcocked.

But, spatcocked is funnier...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:58 PM (miE9U)

218 My contribution, as usual, is the perfect can-shaped cylinder of cranberry sauce for admiration; and the real sauce from cranberries and sugar simmered down to pour over vanilla ice cream after the main social obligations are done. Only sauce I can reliably make and it also works for Christmas.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (MIKMs)

219 When making pecan pie, add a tablespoon of bourbon to the filling. You're welcome.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (gC2IV)

220 Apparently that is a thing where he works. LOUD and OUTRAGEOUS socks.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (yQpMk)


Ben Roethlisberger?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (t+qrx)

221 Miley, got a recipe for that? I'd like to try it!

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (CIkpt)


Just search 'make ahead gravy'. There are many recipes out there for it.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (cF8AT)

222 Am I oversharing?)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (fuK7c)

No; I point it out when I think it's probably too much personal-and I do stress "personal" sharing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (AllCR)

223 >>Pumpkin, because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to.


Never liked regular pumpkin pie that much, but my aunt always made a frozen pumpkin chiffon pie w/gingersnap crust and man oh man, that's tasty! I use this Libby's filling recipe here and make my own crust (but bought graham cracker crust is great, too):

https://www.verybestbaking.com/recipes/28202/
easy-pumpkin-cream-pie/

Super easy!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (W+vEI)

224 No microwave. No iron.
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One of my favorite Bob Marley songs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:00 PM (Rxduq)

225 bluebell has made it very clear that I would die slowly from puncture wounds if I ever talk about another cookbook.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (MVjcR)
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Shoot, I would think that with all the experience you and bluebell have, you should be able to get TDG part II together in two weeks.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM (WEBkv)

226 Between that, and the fact that bluebell is one of the finest ladies I had the pleasure to meet at the TXMoMe, you'll be fine.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)
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I think her exact words were that I'd "beg for the sweet release of death" or something to that effect. She's skerry!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM (MVjcR)

227 I gained a half pound just opening this post.

It would have been a full pound but brussels sprouts.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (Z4rgH)

228 173. Oooh, Sciencey! I figured the 'Y' was for yeast but never would have gotten the rest. Thanks again, can't wait to get started.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (HKPap)

229 Just FYI everyone, agreed about brussels sprouts.

There's some foods that should be demoted to "food-like substances."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (miE9U)

230
Shoot, I would think that with all the experience you and bluebell have, you should be able to get TDG part II together in two weeks.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM (WEBkv)
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She did all the work. Really! I just made a few phone calls.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (MVjcR)

231 Phtttt. You should spring for the Class A. A Prevost, daggone it.
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oooooo, a Prevost... That's my retirement dream, to travel the country in style in a Prevost but I'd settle for a newer Tiffin...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (kufk0)

232 Wow! Thanks, Tami! Where has this been all my life? My mom wasn't much of a cook, and I didn't start to really get into cooking/baking until after retirement, so I'm continually playing catch-up. Much to the vast mirth of my cookin' friends.

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (CIkpt)

233 I wouldn't have the vaguest idea as to how to deep fry a turkey. It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (AllCR)

234 oooooo, a Prevost... That's my retirement dream, to travel the country in style in a Prevost but I'd settle for a newer Tiffin...
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (kufk0)
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I'm trying to see if I can get the numbers to work so my wife and I can buy a class A RV this next year so we can travel after I retire.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (WEBkv)

235 I wouldn't have the vaguest idea as to how to deep fry a turkey. It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (AllCR)

I think the store-boughten turkey fryer setups come with instructions.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (fDU8w)

236 I don't even like turkey cooked the regular way, much less in a microwave.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (DjIXP)

237 Done the microwave turkey thing a couple of years ago. Make sure it's completely thawed. Depending on size its 20 min on high and then 90 on half power. It needs to be breast side down for most of that time and then flip it over. May need to cover too edged of legs and wings with foil (it reflects the waves) otherwise they'll turn to something like plastic. Let it rest for 10 minutes or so. Internal temp to 165. Keep adding time at half power until temp reached if needed. You won't get a crispy brown skin in the microwave but you can pop it under the broiler for that.

Posted by: CDG at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (x0r9/)

238 Finally back from the MNL's.
Checking in.
Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (0tfLf)

239 "It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

ISWYDT

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DjIXP)

240 I think her exact words were that I'd "beg for the sweet release of death" or something to that effect. She's skerry!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM


Nate Silver says there's an 86.4377% chance she's bluffing.

In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DMUuz)

241 > It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Most important part: Archimedes' Principle is a thing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (vOkuK)

242 >>A thread on another forum got into a discussion of booze, mostly whisky, used in the colonies and early America. That brought up Pusser's Rum. It's supposed to be the same recipe the British Navy served on board ship for over 300 years. The Brits discontinued the daily ration in the 1970s and someone bought the rights to make it for the public.

Puser's main operation is in Tortola where they have a nice little pub that unsurprisingly makes the best Painkiller. They purchased Marina Cay not to long ago which is a personal favorite and some of the best snorkeling in the Caribbean but sadly I think it could destroyed in the hurricane.

Very good rum for sipping particularly under a Caribbean sky.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (/tuJf)

243 I wouldn't have the vaguest idea as to how to deep fry a turkey. It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.


Otherwise they might come a cropper.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (yQpMk)

244 239 "It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

ISWYDT
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DjIXP)
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Are we calling fowl on that comment?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (WEBkv)

245 "In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe
kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the
most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the
bowls down, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax"

You named your kitten Ace also?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (DjIXP)

246 Just Google vanilla beans and get them bulk price. I might get more, much cheaper than store bought.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (6VrXf)

247 Pecan pie is not one of those things I ever look for; it's like baclava: too sweet. But I really like the texture of pecan pie.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (H5knJ)

248 >>It's the end of an era in Famiglia Bander. Mommy has always hosted Thanksgiving, but at 84 it's too much and we're all meeting at a restaurant.



Aw, that's rough! I've done two family thanks giving at restaurants when a key member was ill, and while it is lovely to have a hug buffet and no work, the no leftovers part makes it seem incomplete. Where's my leftover pie for breakfast?! My day after Thanksgiving tradition/indulgence...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (W+vEI)

249 225 bluebell has made it very clear that I would die slowly from puncture wounds if I ever talk about another cookbook.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM


Hmmmm. When I met her in Virginia awhile back, she pretty much said the same fate would befall any who volunteered her name again.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (0tfLf)

250 90
We make our own vanilla, a few beans split down center and a small
bottle of vodka. Takes a good month but after that you will not run out
for years. Just replenished a few beans and vodka after maybe 10 years.



Hmmmm. I don't know about flavored vodka, although I do have some Madagascar vanilla beans I got from Penzey's before I realized the boss, who inherited the business, is a leftist a***ole.


Yes it is a wonderful thing when your children are wealthier than you.


Posted by: JAS


At her age, I was still in grad school, and didn't drink much of anything besides cheap wine. She's already making almost as much money as I do at the end of my career, and since I know a bit about booze, I'm happy to tell her what I've learned. Plus, best Christmas shopping trip EVAR!

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (T6t7i)

251 Tonight is spinach, hard boiled eggs, salmon salad, walnuts, cranberries and homemade lemon vinagrette with shallots and thyme.

Mmm. Canned fish.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (EZebt)

252 Well. I won a turkey at the KoC turkey bingo. Just couldn't keep my mouth shut. Had to scream BINGO in the first game. I got the same Butterball that I donated. So, technically, I didn't donate anything. I did make a cash contribution to the Charity Jar. Now. What to do with the turkey. I already am planning "Festive Pork Loin" for Thursday.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (3HNOQ)

253 As for pecan pie, you have to treat it as if it were candy --- which it pretty much is. A tiny slice is enough.

I like to cut a half-inch slice and put it on a scoop of ice cream.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (Rxduq)

254 232 Wow! Thanks, Tami! Where has this been all my life? My mom wasn't much of a cook, and I didn't start to really get into cooking/baking until after retirement, so I'm continually playing catch-up. Much to the vast mirth of my cookin' friends.

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (CIkpt)

It's life changing. What I described @ 124 is the first part of the make ahead gravy.

I'll strain everything from the stockpot, make a roux then start adding the stock I made and season it as I go. (Can be frozen for up to 3 months.)

I will still make gravy from the turkey drippings and then add the pre-made gravy to it.

Gravy-palooza!

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (cF8AT)

255 244 239 "It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

ISWYDT
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DjIXP)
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Are we calling fowl on that comment?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM



Don't be peckish.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (0tfLf)

256 In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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That's too funny. Our kitten Bleu also eats out of our dogs bowl. She can usually only get a few pieces down before the dog inhales the rest. And I was worried about the dog hurting the kitten over food... the kitten will just sit in the dog bowl and the dog will try to eat around her.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (kufk0)

257 In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DMUuz)


That's the best. Entitled, demanding kittens are so entertaining. It's amazing how much assertiveness and attitude can fit into the approximate volume of a potato with a tail.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (t+qrx)

258 Actually I have gotten a reprieve from cooking. A couple of times different friends invited us over but they never repeated the invitations so we must have been deplorable (before the word recently)became a good thing) guests. A couple of people died rather than invite us over again, I suspect (They died before TG) Once we went out, though, and I enjoyed that and we're still allowed back in the restaurant..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (AllCR)

259 Colonial spirits . . .

You can buy Applejack for a very reasonable price. Basically the calvadoes of the colonies. Really enjoyable.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 05:11 PM (H5knJ)

260 You named your kitten Ace also?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM


Well, her full name is "Ace of Spades-Ben Had", but "Ace" is her sietch name.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:11 PM (DMUuz)

261 Cider brining the turkey and spatchcocking it again this year. Will roast it on a bed of onion, apple and celery.
Mashed spuds, gravy, homemade cranberry relish, green beans and sweet potato casserole. I raised the sweet potatoes. Only 3 of us this year. We're going to eat very, very well.
And of course pumpkin pie. Recipe off the Libby can with extra amounts of the spices.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 18, 2018 05:11 PM (N3JsI)

262 "Don't be peckish.

Posted by: Diogenes"

I think we're going to get a flock of comments on this one.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (DjIXP)

263 It is a blessing that none of my kids live at home. The all have spouses and children. The youngest is 36.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (3HNOQ)

264 Bander, do you cook Thanksgiving dinner in a sarong too?




Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM




There's a mental image I can do without.



*Waves at Bander*

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (tT986)

265
In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DMUuz)
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Thanks for the update on Ace, Duncanthrax. Can we get a picture sometime? I was looking at one of WeaselWoman holding him today.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (MVjcR)

266 In looking into the gluten free breadfruit or taro options for stuffing, I came across a recipe for "Moroccan pumpkin pie" which is just replacing the molasses with pureed dates. Sounds good actually

Posted by: Total Control Racist at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (z2W2E)

267 "Well, her full name is "Ace of Spades-Ben Had", but "Ace" is her sietch name.

Posted by: Duncanthrax"

Mines named for Ace from KISS. Gets in about as much trouble too.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:13 PM (DjIXP)

268 It's the end of an era in Famiglia Bander. Mommy has always hosted Thanksgiving, but at 84 it's too much and we're all meeting at a restaurant.


Isn't that wonderful you still have a mom to celebrate TG with. My last TG with mom was 1982.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:13 PM (AllCR)

269 There was a girl who was a roommate my senior year in college who was a pecan pie savant.

She couldn't really do much else competently, but her pecan pies were incredible. Perfect consistency and balance of caramel sweet to salty nuts, every time.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:14 PM (EZebt)

270 Sock off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 05:14 PM (EZebt)

271 I'm trying to see if I can get the numbers to work so my wife and I can buy a class A RV this next year so we can travel after I retire.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (WEBkv)
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Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.

My wife and I bought an RV a few years ago and made one trip in it. Got back home and sold it and ate a big loss. Did not care for the parks, the people in the parks or the management in most parks.

Posted by: Willie Brown at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (B3kya)

272 251 Tonight is spinach, hard boiled eggs, salmon salad, walnuts, cranberries and homemade lemon vinagrette with shallots and thyme.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (EZebt)
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Time?
Address?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (Rxduq)

273 There's a mental image I can do without.


*Waves at Bander*

Posted by: Vendette



*waves back*

I rock a sarong. I bet you do, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (fuK7c)

274 Probably the biggest mistake people make when frying a turkey...well 2 mistakes really. Not pre-measuring with water to see how much oil they'll need. If you put in too much, it will overflow when you put the turkey in and then...well fire in the hole!

Also, believe it or not, some people don't defrost the turkey enough before they put it in the fryer...water meets hot oil.

I think Alton Brown had a whole video on how to do it correctly...and it's amusing.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (cF8AT)

275
If you do a slow cook method for turkey how long do you cook it and at what temperature?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM


I'm a believer in fast cook based on weight of bird, then set oven to a 'keep warm' temperature for hours on end. The entire house smells wonderful and guests dig in with gusto.

The only warnings are the turkey must be kept hydrated with water and white wine to keep it from drying out. Since I cook small it's usually a seven pound bird which fits inside a Dutch oven easily.

Like Bander, no stuffing inside the bird. Messes with even cooking.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (e7O7B)

276 Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since
the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in
those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going
to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.



I have it on good authority that a $100 bill dragged through a trailer park will result in much happiness.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:16 PM (T6t7i)

277 >>>There's some foods that should be demoted to "food-like substances."<<<

It's interesting how some people attribute the flavor of soap to cilantro, - if one were to characterize the flavor of Brussel sprouts, I'm imagining it's akin to cleaning your automotive battery posts with your tongue.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 05:17 PM (Z9C5C)

278 Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since
the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in
those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going
to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.


Did it consist of 500 rococo and utterly unnecessary steps?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:17 PM (T6t7i)

279 Isn't that wonderful you still have a mom to celebrate TG with. My last TG with mom was 1982.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke



Oh, condolences Fen. That's a good long time ago.

I keep trying to explain demographics to my Mom. She's in very good health other than aches and pains. I tell her that at her age everything that kills people her age has already killed them and there's no real "life expectancy" any more.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:18 PM (fuK7c)

280 Well, that didn't work at all. Should have been:
[iI think Alton Brown had a whole video on how to do it correctly...and it's amusing.

Did it consist of 500 rococo and utterly unnecessary steps?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:18 PM (T6t7i)

281 When I was little, grandma and grandpa did Thanksgiving. When grandpa died, my dad took over the cooking and grandma just had to clean the silver, etc with help from grandkids. Dad would cook Thanksgiving and just haul all the dishes over to wherever we were having it that year. When dad died, brother-in-law took over the cooking. He died a few months ago, so we are not having the big dinner any more. One of the nephews will do Christmas, but for Thanksgiving we are all on our own. Nota bene, nobody has ever asked me to cook anything; my job was the perfect can-shaped cranberry 'sauce' and lotsa booze.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 05:19 PM (MIKMs)

282 It's interesting how some people attribute the flavor of soap to
cilantro, - if one were to characterize the flavor of Brussel sprouts,
I'm imagining it's akin to cleaning your automotive battery posts with
your tongue.



No, I find that a DieHard has an insouciant puckishness. Brussels Sprouts just suck.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (T6t7i)

283 Wife convinced me to try smoking our turkey this year. I've smoked pork, ribs, chicken and brisket but never a turkey.

Won't help that its going to be a high of 28'F and snowing when I try it. Thankfully I upgraded to the dual burner vertical propane smoker earlier this year so I can maintain 225'F even in these cold conditions.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (kI/3T)

284 Fermented foods are great!
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I'll take a pass on the Icelandic shark.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (XXadE)

285 It's interesting how some people attribute the flavor of soap to cilantro...
Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 05:17 PM (Z9C5C)

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This is due to a known genetic mutation present in about 10% of the population.

It makes for easy identification.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (EZebt)

286 Speaking of Alton Brown and brussels sprouts, if you have the Cooking Channel the brussels sprouts episode of Good Eats starts in 7 minutes.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (tT986)

287 Did it consist of 500 rococo and utterly unnecessary steps?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:18 PM (T6t7i)


Lol!

Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/y8zhwyvg

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (cF8AT)

288 Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti. Supposedly U.S. troops have seized control of the Port-au-Prince airport, and the U.S. Embassy has reportedly urged that all Americans leave rural areas immediately, and those in urban areas "shelter in place".

Today is "Battle of Vertières Day", a patriotic holiday in Haiti.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (vOkuK)

289 >>>Are we calling fowl on that comment?<<<

Some puns, like other folks gravy, are just offal.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (Z9C5C)

290 Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.

My wife and I bought an RV a few years ago and made one trip in it. Got back home and sold it and ate a big loss. Did not care for the parks, the people in the parks or the management in most parks.
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Well, to be honest there is a huge difference between a class A motorhome and the various classes of towables. We have had both and our current class A is 15 plus years old so we are the "trailer trash" of the motorhome world. It is a different lifestyle and not for everyone. The upper end class A's are a whole different world...one I've only seen and heard about. When you drive around million dollar motorhomes you aren't generally staying in walmart parking lots.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (kufk0)

291 261. yum.I believe I must come and sit at your holiday table.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:22 PM (HKPap)

292 My wife ordered three cookbooks as Christmas gifts after friends asked where we got ours. Really is a good cookbook.

Posted by: Agitator at November 18, 2018 05:22 PM (atO6j)

293 FenelonSpoke, I have never stuffed a turkey. My family makes dressing instead. That's just how we do it. This year, my folks are coming out to us. My mom has to make the rolls because I am not even close to the baker she is. I think I am switching out the pumpkin pie with a pumpkin dump cake. I'm the only one who really loves the pie. I think I can survive with only apple and pecan.

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:23 PM (1uG1d)

294 > some of them are not the kind of people you are going to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.

Err... isn't the whole point of an RV that if you don't like where you are, you can move somewhere else?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:24 PM (vOkuK)

295 M'kay, whoever thought of the Pusser's Rum I say mucho gracias. Gotta have some of that here in the compound for medicinal purposes.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (zLDYs)

296 269 There was a girl who was a roommate my senior year in college who was a pecan pie savant.

She couldn't really do much else competently, but her pecan pies were incredible. Perfect consistency and balance of caramel sweet to salty nuts, every time.
Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:14 PM (EZebt)
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This is a bizarre phenomenon, isn't it?
My mother is a terrible cook, just awful, but no one can match her flan or her pecan cookies. Absolute perfection on those 2 items.

I've got her recipes, I've watched her every move making the stuff, but I only ....come close. Weird.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (Rxduq)

297 Since both Pere naturalfake and Mere naturalfake have joined the Choir Eternal,

it's hard(impossible) to get all the family together for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

My brother and I used to takeover the cooking of Christmas dinner.

It was always a great amount of fun.

Maybe I'll try to work a Christmas goose into our Christmas.

If you haven't tried Christmas goose, you must try it at least once.

And goose-fat roasted potatoes are the Yummiest Potatoes in the Universe!.

Maybe I'll sneak in French Carrot Crecy Soup too.

That by the way is the Yummiest Winter Vegetable Christmas Soup!

Hmmmmmm.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (9X624)

298 I presume that both microwaving the bird as well as stuffing it carry high risk of food borne illness.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (EZebt)

299 271. That is what hubs and I discovered; RVing has changed. There are now a lot of off the grid folks out there. I still want to see the country so I just want a big Durango or Expedition to drive and explore comfortably in and then stay at hotels to sleep.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 05:27 PM (fnWQo)

300 Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:23 PM (1uG1d)


What is a pumpkin dump cake?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:27 PM (AllCR)

301 292 My wife ordered three cookbooks as Christmas gifts after friends asked where we got ours. Really is a good cookbook.
Posted by: Agitator at November 18, 2018 05:22 PM (atO6j)
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Thank you!! Toys for Tots and Fisher House thank you, too!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:28 PM (MVjcR)

302 > Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti.

Al-Jazeera (yeah, I know) has a story. Nothing else in the MSM yet that I can see.

https://tinyurl.com/haitiviolence

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:28 PM (vOkuK)

303 Well, to be honest there is a huge difference between a class A motorhome and the various classes of towables. We have had both and our current class A is 15 plus years old so we are the "trailer trash" of the motorhome world. It is a different lifestyle and not for everyone. The upper end class A's are a whole different world...one I've only seen and heard about. When you drive around million dollar motorhomes you aren't generally staying in walmart parking lots.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (kufk0)

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My wife and I are thinking 30' class A, maybe 6 or 7 years old.

Not interested in Class C, as we don't care for the layout and have no use for sleeping space over the cab.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:31 PM (WEBkv)

304 A dump cake is a when you cover a filling with a yellow cake mix and pour melted butter over it and bake it. Super easy and so very tasty. https://lilluna.com/pumpkin-dump-cake-2/

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:31 PM (1uG1d)

305 Whole bird is way too much for just my wife and I so this year I bought the 37 cent a pound ones and thawed them mostly out. Cut into 2 breast halves and 2 leg-thigh quarters. The rest simmered with celery, carrot, onion into a stock for dressing. Vacuum froze with thyme and butter. Pull them out of freezer and sous-vide at 147 for 4 hours or so and they're done. Skin to be crisped separate in broiler after.

Posted by: geoffb at November 18, 2018 05:32 PM (zOpu5)

306 All this holiday talk makes me crave egg nog. Off to Wawa I go. It's back on the shelves!

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:32 PM (HKPap)

307 It's not a coup in Haiti...

IT'S GODZILLA!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvyFhvtUTCk

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 05:33 PM (9X624)

308 Well, time to eat at Che Blake!

Stay hungry, everyone!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:33 PM (WEBkv)

309 Blake,
We have a 2003 Tiffin Phaeton that we bought in 2010. It is 35'. We switched to a class A from a towable because of the kids. They have a lot more freedom and you aren't constantly looking for a bathroom. Plus with a 100 gallon tank you can drive all day without tanking up but when you do it can be a sticker shock.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (kufk0)

310
Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti.

How could they tell?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (aKsyK)

311 anyone got a good recipe for kimchee, W/O feesh stuff in it?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (Dagiw)

312 Bought a bottle of Riesling to pour into the bottom of the pan along with a cup of water for the turkey. Did not buy turkey. I was at Walmart and as I was checking out the turkeys, my eyes swept past three pig's heads wrapped in plastic and sitting in the cooler. I backed off. There just some things I do not wish to see even though I am no vegan.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 05:36 PM (zEo4V)

313 I followed the Al Jazeera link about Haiti, checked some foreign press, and tried the google news, and all I get is riots and protests about misuse of funds.

(Funds from Venezuela. wtf?)

Don't see anything about coup or U.S. presence.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:36 PM (fuK7c)

314 > It's not a coup in Haiti...

> IT'S GODZILLA!!!!!!

Heh... yeah, pretty much.

Border between Haiti and the Dominical Republic:

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/DsUZDBzX4AAP87z.jpg

Supposedly the protestors are upset by the government looting the country in collusion with the Clinton Crime Family.

Which explains why the MSM is ignoring this.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:37 PM (vOkuK)

315 > Don't see anything about coup or U.S. presence.

Phone videos of shooting, soldiers in the streets, etc. on Twatter.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:38 PM (vOkuK)

316 I want to like egg nog. I like dairy. I like alcohol. But I don't like egg nog. My wife drinks my share.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 05:40 PM (H5knJ)

317 Wouldn't microwaving cause the texture to be different even if the turkey reached the same temperature? Ie. wouldn't it taste like warm, raw goop as opposed to oven baked? I thought bacon was the only sort of flesh you could microwave properly.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear



No, it would be dry as particle board before it reached temp. CBD is just annoyed that no one is going to follow his unamerican lead and miss out on turkey.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 18, 2018 05:40 PM (pnMCv)

318 anyone got a good recipe for kimchee, W/O feesh stuff in it?
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM


Was just looking at the Kraut Source link CBD provided in the content above. They have a pretty traditional one on their site, w/the fish sauce optional. Sized for their quart maker; you can always scale up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:42 PM (DMUuz)

319 My Class A MH is 42 years old.

Posted by: freakde at November 18, 2018 05:42 PM (UdKB7)

320 Pressed for time, my DIL once put raw chicken in the microwave. Horrible. Rubbery and tasted terrible. I can't see how microwaving a turkey would be a success.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 05:43 PM (zEo4V)

321 If I had the money, I think I would get a turkey fryer. I've heard so many people tell me how incredibly tasty fried turkey is.


You also need one of those 150 lb CO2 extinguishers that they have on the flight line for piston powered aircraft.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (MwFQu)

322 306 All this holiday talk makes me crave egg nog. Off to Wawa I go. It's back on the shelves!
Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:32 PM (HKPap)


Wawa? The State Store (excuse me, the "Wine and Spirits Shop") has the good stuff.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (sdi6R)

323 Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:31 PM (1uG1d)


Thanks. Sounds good. Happy TG to you and your family!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (AllCR)

324 I hope there's no unrest in Haiti. This is always used as an excuse to import new Democrats-to-be in order to flip counties. Being a refugee should be a temporary thing, until the crisis they are seeking refuge from is over. They should always be put in a camp, and then once the conflict is over, they can be sent back to joyously return to their communities.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (/qEW2)

325 BBof F'n Joy won one of the cookbooks as a door prize at the MoMe and I never seen someone so happy.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (T1Aes)

326 William Shatner has the definitive amusing video of how not to deep fry the turkey.
Don't throw away the dingle-dangle!

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (3HNOQ)

327 I can't see how microwaving a turkey would be a success.


As weft-cut just pointed out, while CBD may be the best cob (that's the sucking up part) he is not always your friend.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:45 PM (fuK7c)

328 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (/tuJf)

I have wondered if the distillery in Cane Garden Bay survived.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (SzQWn)

329 325 BBof F'n Joy won one of the cookbooks as a door prize at the MoMe and I never seen someone so happy.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (T1Aes)
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Yeah, that was great! Didn't lin-duh's second husband win the other?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (MVjcR)

330 > Being a refugee should be a temporary thing, until the crisis they are seeking refuge from is over.

If the "refugees" are males of military age, they should be handed a rifle and a box full of ammo, and sent back with instructions to fix the problem themselves.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:47 PM (vOkuK)

331 Weasel, yes he did.

I'm ordering 5 more to get through the Christmas season.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:49 PM (T1Aes)

332

I'm ordering 5 more to get through the Christmas season.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:49 PM (T1Aes)
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Thank you, Ben Had!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:49 PM (MVjcR)

333 Three pig's heads wrapped in plastic? That means it's tamale time!!! Yum.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 05:50 PM (S+f+m)

334 That means it's tamale time!!


Tomalley > tamale.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:51 PM (fuK7c)

335 322. I guess I drink the virgin egg nog.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:51 PM (UWzjE)

336 Thanks for the update on Ace, Duncanthrax. Can we get a picture sometime? I was looking at one of WeaselWoman holding him today.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM


I'm trying to get a reasonably good one. If I can't get a better one over Thanksgiving, I'll send one I took yesterday.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:52 PM (DMUuz)

337 how many copies of the cookbook have been sold?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:52 PM (Pg+x7)

338 333 Three pig's heads wrapped in plastic? That means it's tamale time!!! Yum.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 05:50 PM (S+f+m)

+++

I had no idea. I saw goat in the refrigerator case at Win Co and that threw me for a loop, too.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 05:53 PM (zEo4V)

339 That first photo makes me cringe because you are about to blow up your microwave. Supermarket turkeys usually have various metal clips and ties in place when you buy them, and of course they haven't been stuffed either.

Posted by: jdgalt at November 18, 2018 05:54 PM (3SFo/)

340 337 how many copies of the cookbook have been sold?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:52 PM (Pg+x7)
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A little over 2,400 copies and we've donated a total of $6,500 between the two charities.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:55 PM (MVjcR)

341 Are you trying to get me killed?


Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM


Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.


Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

Do that and I'll shiv you myself.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM (wYseH)

342 I bought the kindle version of the Deplorable Gourmet. I wish I got the hardcopy instead.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (3HNOQ)

343 Twitchy as a post up around regionally-favored sides for Thanksgiving:

https://twitchy.com/ jacobb-38/2018/11/18/ the-left-coast-has-been-disqualified -from-the-next-election-because -of-its-favorite-thanksgiving-side/

remove the spaces, or use this:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc42v9t4

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (DMUuz)

344 2,400? wow, that's damn good. congrats!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (Pg+x7)

345 I made chicken mushroom tetrazzini for lunch, but instead of pasta, I put it on a bed of cheesy risotto.

The gamble paid off, it was really good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (5aX2M)

346 Murky

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 05:58 PM (nR2Re)

347 342 I bought the kindle version of the Deplorable Gourmet. I wish I got the hardcopy instead.
Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (3HNOQ)
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Well just mosey upthread and click on the book cover!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:58 PM (MVjcR)

348 Any hardcopies still available?

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)

349 That microwaved turkey might benefit from maple syrup.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (nBr1j)

350
Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.


Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

Do that and I'll shiv you myself.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM (wYseH)
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Well this is a pickle!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (MVjcR)

351 348 Any hardcopies still available?
Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)
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Yes!! Amazon makes them to order.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (MVjcR)

352 I bought the kindle version of the Deplorable Gourmet. I wish I got the hardcopy instead.
Posted by: JAS
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Those are extremely rare.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (5h/3t)

353 344 2,400? wow, that's damn good. congrats!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (Pg+x7)
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Yep! Amazing. I remember hoping to sell 250 or so and cover the up front costs.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (MVjcR)

354 349 That microwaved turkey might benefit from maple syrup.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (nBr1j)

+++

I think CBD pulls our chains on some subjects and never fesses up.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (zEo4V)

355 Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (SzQWn)
No recipe. I know about how much flour I want to use, and I just dump the starter into about half of it, along with some salt. Then I mix and knead and add more flour and stop and let it rest and repeat until I like the texture. Then I let it rest, covered, for about three hours and then try not to burn the shit out of myself when I transfer it to the hot dutch oven!
I'll poke around and see if I can find a good recipe, but the ones I have used are pretty much guidelines and not hard and fast.
Dough is a bitch.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (wYseH)

356 If the "refugees" are males of military age, they should be handed a rifle and a box full of ammo, and sent back with instructions to fix the problem themselves.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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The 10-15 thousand Hondurans should have been marching on the capital.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 06:03 PM (nR2Re)

357 It's always tamale time!

Posted by: Little Lupe at November 18, 2018 06:03 PM (Tyii7)

358 351 348 Any hardcopies still available?
Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)
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Yes!! Amazon makes them to order.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (MVjcR)
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And they're extremely rare. Jump if you find Amazon has them in stock.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (MVjcR)

359 Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.





Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)





Do that and I'll shiv you myself.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM (wYseH)



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Well this is a pickle!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (MVjcR)


Remember that Bluebell knows where you live.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (tT986)

360 I think CBD pulls our chains on some subjects and never fesses up.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (zEo4V)

Never.

I have no sense of humor...just ask the people who have met me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (wYseH)

361

Remember that Bluebell knows where you live.
Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (tT986)
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WeaselDog will protect me!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:05 PM (MVjcR)

362 Weasel

How are the sales of the cookbook doing? I take it the Eastern European knockoff is hurting EU sales?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:06 PM (hyuyC)

363 362 Weasel

How are the sales of the cookbook doing? I take it the Eastern European knockoff is hurting EU sales?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:06 PM (hyuyC)
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I doubt the rip off site is hurting us too much. Sales are predominantly in the U.S. but every now and then we sell one or two in Europe. Sales now are around 10-15 copies (paper and ebook) total per month.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:09 PM (MVjcR)

364 Dough is a bitch.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018


It is. Maybe I haven't been letting it rise long enough. 3 hours seems long. Will try again next wknd.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 06:09 PM (SzQWn)

365 Pro Tip:

Do not anger bluebell. Underneath her smiling, classy exterior is the heart of a stone-cold killer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:10 PM (hyuyC)

366 Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox. Posted by:
Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM

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Do that and I'll shiv you myself.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM

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Well this is a pickle!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM


No need to act like a sour Kraut. Instead, negotiate like Donny Two-Scoops.

Acknowledge the mastery with which the Sox dealt with the Yankees this year.

Simultaneously, forswear any usage of maple syrup on Toast Quebecois.

TDC II. It'll be yuge! Luxurious!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 06:10 PM (DMUuz)

367 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:17 PM (LsBY9)

What are soup greens?

Posted by: clutch at November 18, 2018 06:10 PM (kiSdp)

368 Youtube seems to have blown up again.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 18, 2018 06:12 PM (vWMNq)

369


DOUGH!

Posted by: Homer Simpson at November 18, 2018 06:13 PM (aKsyK)

370 Howdy folks!

Just back from Columbus where several of us (including a *VERY* special guest) celebrated someone's birthday.

If you followed my BSU's, then you'll want to tune-in to tonight's ONT.

Oh, we had wings, too (see: food-related!)

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 06:14 PM (vUcdz)

371 Also, I recently made a dirt simple recipe that was da bomb.

Bowtie pasta in cream/parmesan sauce, with cremini mushrooms sautéed in white whine and prosciutto fried up like bacon and broken into little bits.

Man, I want some now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:15 PM (5aX2M)

372 It is. Maybe I haven't been letting it rise long enough. 3 hours seems long. Will try again next wknd.
Posted by: Infidel/i]

Look up "no knead" 24 hour dough.

Fold the ingredients together until mixed, then cover with oiled plastic in a oiled bowl for 24 hours. Use lots of flour when you turn it out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 18, 2018 06:17 PM (pnMCv)

373 It is. Maybe I haven't been letting it rise long enough. 3 hours seems long. Will try again next wknd.

Between first rise and proofing, three hours isn't unreasonable...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 18, 2018 06:17 PM (7s3Gx)

374 Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie (turkey, peas, carrots, gravy, mushrooms, etc.) shepherds pie (for the spuds) topped with cranberry sauce, fruit pies, pecan pies.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 06:18 PM (758Rh)

375 Alex Smith got the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day that Theismann got his.

Ouch.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:19 PM (/tuJf)

376 OH! And whichever brilliant Moron left that spicy chicken recipe last week - THANK YOU!!

Was wonderful!

Side note: mrs ibguy has developed some tummy issues and found that even the small amount of hot sauce I used was too much, so will swap it out for a balsamic reduction next go.

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 06:21 PM (vUcdz)

377 Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie (turkey, peas, carrots, gravy, mushrooms, etc.) shepherds pie (for the spuds) topped with cranberry sauce, fruit pies, pecan pies.
Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 06:18 PM (758Rh)

Stuffing pie with gravy?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 06:21 PM (uBX7f)

378 375 Alex Smith got the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day that Theismann got his.

Ouch.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:19 PM (/tuJf)

Yeah, saw the video and immediately thought of Joe T. Smith's tibia basically was turned backward. Ugly. Done for the year, maybe a career-ender.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at November 18, 2018 06:22 PM (1FhAQ)

379 I just made some fried apples to go with baked pork chops. Quite tasty, if I say so myself. Butter, brown sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 06:22 PM (Dhht7)

380 Youtube seems to have blown up again.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 18, 2018 06:12 PM (vWMNq)

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I was just there via hooktube and it ran fine.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 06:22 PM (ffYR/)

381 An FB friend posted an old sign: "Please! No floozies in the jacuzzi!"

I added, "Look out! Those floozies are boozy!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:23 PM (miE9U)

382 YD, my local HEB carries a porcini mushroom/truffle cappellacci. I sautee chicken in white wine and add the pasta and smother the whole thing in basil pesto.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:24 PM (T1Aes)

383

Loozie got some splainin to do!

Posted by: Rick E. Ricardo at November 18, 2018 06:24 PM (aKsyK)

384 Ok, this is important. Like life cHanging.

Today we cooked a test turkey in our new charbroil infra-red oil-less fryer. Everyone and I mean everyone should have one. In fact if I win lotto I'm getting everyone one of them.... and a gun.

13 lbs. 2 hours. Moist. Wonderfullness.

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (+6jVU)

385 Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:24 PM (T1Aes)

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Lord in heaven, that sounds amazing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (5aX2M)

386 I think I posted this before.

My late husband was the cook. And Thanksgiving was his holiday. The first Thanksgiving after his death, my friend invited me to her house for Thanksgiving. She had a lot of people over.

She started the turkey early and checked on it around noon. Then she discovered her mom had accidently turned the oven off when she checked it that morning. One of the guests said "we're going to need more wine." I went into town with them and it was a good choice. My friend cut up the turkey and tried to cook it in the microwave. She was not very successful. We did have a few things to eat and we had wine. I would not recommend cooking a turkey in the microwave.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (Lqy/e)

387 turkey fryers are way less than $100, so cost shouldn't be much of a barrier there.

that much peanut oil, if you're only going to use it for a single bird, is more of a sticker shock...

measure how much oil you are going to need a day or 3 ahead, by putting the bird, on it's stand, in the pot and measuring how much water it takes to cover it.

on cooking day, put measured amount of oil in the cooker, located OUTSIDE, on level ground, away from anything flammable, and with no dogs, children, drunks, etc, to run into it or knock it over.

heat oil to cooking temp, using thermometer. shut off flame when you reach it.

only *then* do you (very) slowly lower the bird into the oil, having used paper towels, etc, to remove as much surface moisture as you can... it's still going to his and spit, but you do NOT want to put a wet bird into the oil and you also do NOT want to lower it in all at once.

when submerged, re-light the flame, and cook as directed.

when the bird is done, turn off the flame, THEN remove the bird. if you're cooking another one, this is the time to immerse it, then, if necessary, add oil BEFORE relighting the flame.

other wise, let the oil cool, and drain into storage containers, straining it in the process.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (Dagiw)

388 I left a comment on Breitbart (GOP Sen. Blunt: 'It Would Be a Huge Mistake Not to Let the Mueller Investigation Come to a Conclusion').

I asked "Where are the probes on Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Soros, Jarrett, bho?" Under moderation for 15 minutes. WTF?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (hyuyC)

389 BLESSED SUNDAY YO ALL THE WARRIORS OUT THERE, THR ONES BATTLING THE MAN CUBTS AND CHOMOS! SHBSCRIBE TO MY YOURUBE PAGE TO WATCH ME IN SCTUON!!

Posted by: Based Herk at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (2APeU)

390 I am going to pioneer the trend of cooking a turkey with an Oxyacetylene torch.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (dNzKv)

391 374 Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie (turkey, peas, carrots, gravy, mushrooms, etc.) shepherds pie (for the spuds) topped with cranberry sauce, fruit pies, pecan pies.
Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 06:18 PM (758Rh)
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This is a genius idea. You could have a savory quiche for the veggie course.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (kQs4Y)

392
That was one ugly injury to Alex Smith, as evidenced by there being no replays when they realized how gruesome it was.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 06:28 PM (LsBY9)

393 I thought the money dried up after major elections.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:28 PM (dNzKv)

394 And you can use it for pork loin, etc. no oil. Easy Peary.


Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:29 PM (+6jVU)

395 393 I thought the money dried up after major elections.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:28 PM (dNzKv)

It's BSG. We're his hobby, I surmise.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at November 18, 2018 06:29 PM (1FhAQ)

396 Hadrian the Seventh

Sad for him. He was doing OK after KC let him go.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (hyuyC)

397 Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (+6jVU)

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Ha! I was just telling my bro that when I win Mega Millions next week, every Moron gets a Barrett M107.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (5aX2M)

398 Ben Had, that HEB you menitoned is one I'm familiar with. Stopped there when passing through to get some traveling snacks before, but next time we are stopping at your place instead.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (zLDYs)

399 388 I left a comment on Breitbart (GOP Sen. Blunt: 'It Would Be a Huge Mistake Not to Let the Mueller Investigation Come to a Conclusion').

I asked "Where are the probes on Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Soros, Jarrett, bho?" Under moderation for 15 minutes. WTF?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (hyuyC)


That's why I don't read breitbart. Went to crap when Andrew died. They permabanned me for saying "Conservatives like big government when big government forces people to do what THEY want."

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:31 PM (dNzKv)

400 Uuurrgghhh, I just watched the Alex Smith video. His leg just got all floppy and weird.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (kQs4Y)

401
Ha! I was just telling my bro that when I win Mega Millions next week, every Moron gets a Barrett M107.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (5aX2M

Whoa. You get a ticket this week? I'll look forward to it. Good luck!

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (+6jVU)

402 redc1c4, thanks for all that info.
Think I will get a turkey fryer between this T-day and next T-day and give fried turkey a shot in 2019. In the meantime, buffalo wings baby!! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (miE9U)

403 https://tinyurl.com/ybe3kbam

Pickle pizza. WTF

Posted by: Total Control Racist at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (z2W2E)

404 Eromero, I will cook for you any time. Matter of fact, I may just make you come to dinner so I can give you your Jar back!

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:33 PM (T1Aes)

405 Cat Ass Trophy

First time for me.

Been doing OK as part of my Age of Reason outreach at Breitbart. I was going for a "symmetry is stable" statement. Hmmm...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:34 PM (hyuyC)

406 Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (+6jVU)

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Thanks, and I'm hardly kidding. I would consider arming you Morons to the hilt with heavy weapons to be a mitzvah and a public service

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:35 PM (5aX2M)

407 when I win Mega Millions next week, every Moron gets a Barrett M107.

Hmm, I should probably let you win because I might have only gotten me the single-shot version.

Powerball and Mega Millions are both at $139 million. How often does that happen.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 06:37 PM (nIvDu)

408 Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti.

How could they tell?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (aKsyK)

Fist bump!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:38 PM (fDU8w)

409 Oh CBD, that bread does look good. Yum.

Posted by: bluebell at November 18, 2018 06:38 PM (U5tDi)

410 Cat Ass Trophy

27 minutes to be approved by a mod. Hmmm...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (hyuyC)

411 Yud, thanks so much but I'd prefer the cash. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (miE9U)

412 Eagles are serving turkey early

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (6VrXf)

413 Ben Had, just ate the last of the venison/wildhog chili and had apple pie with Bluebell homemade vanilla. Now I need to get a drink before the gub thread, I mean, since I missed church and all. Right?

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (zLDYs)

414 I actually took the time to glance thru the posts since my way earlier input.
Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died and thankful no one brought up the most vile of green things...okra.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:41 PM (0tfLf)

415 Just got back from a trip to Trader Joe's which is always fun but especially at this time of year. So many things to try including fresh Brussels sprouts still on the stalks. They had a whole bin of them.

Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2018 06:42 PM (jm1YL)

416 ''the most vile of green things...okra.''

French fried okra is yummy. It's a southern thing.

Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2018 06:43 PM (jm1YL)

417 Eromero, scratch that,maybe I will just bring the Jar back and see if I can get a dinner invite.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:43 PM (T1Aes)

418 QDP, money may not always be able to get you a gun, but a gun can always get you money.

JK, LOL, don't ban me, dudes!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:43 PM (5aX2M)

419 Brussel sprouts! Okra! BAH! We had to scrape the algae off of rocks in the ditch for our Thanksgivings!

Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:44 PM (UdKB7)

420 My Class A MH is 42 years old.
Posted by: freakde at November 18, 2018 05:42 PM (UdKB7)

Mine, if I ever get it back on the road, is a 1947 model:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9rg7t3w

Really in better shape than this one, too. And it does run and motivate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (fDU8w)

421 >>Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died

>>Just got back from a trip to Trader Joe's which is always fun but especially at this time of year. So many things to try including fresh Brussels sprouts still on the stalks. They had a whole bin of them.

They never go away.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

422 Then she discovered her mom had accidently turned the oven off when she checked it that morning"
You sure that wasn't mother-in-law, Marie Barone?

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (3HNOQ)

423 The woman at nourishingday.com has a nice cookbook on fermented vegetables.

I did kombuchu before it was called that. It was easy to make where we lived in the Gorge but I've had no luck here. And I didn't have any luck making kefir recently. I'm going to wait until we move to try again.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (Lqy/e)

424 Can't watch the video of Alex Smith. Ugh.. feel bad for him.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (dUJdY)

425 Link don't work aop

Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (UdKB7)

426 We had to eat chinaberries or indian cigars off catalpa trees and pretend it was okra, that most divine green vegetable, right, morons?

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (zLDYs)

427 Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died

I love them. I cut the ends of and quarter them then fry them with garlic. Yum.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (dUJdY)

428 421 >>Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died

>>Just got back from a trip to Trader Joe's which is always fun but especially at this time of year. So many things to try including fresh Brussels sprouts still on the stalks. They had a whole bin of them.

They never go away.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

Like herpes.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)

429 Alex Smith got the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day that Theismann got his.

Ouch.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:19 PM (/tuJf)

And Joe T. was there, as it was alumni day. He knew right away and was really heartbroken for Alex. Very sad.

And balsamic vinegar for the last few minutes in the oven (save your pan and use parchment paper) on those caramelized sprouts will make them delicious if you don't have bacon. Because I know you just ate all of the bacon, didn't you?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (t0Z53)

430 Haiti: A slave revolution in which all the white people were slaughtered. Gee. I just don't understand why there has NEVER been any investment there since.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (3HNOQ)

431 Ok...wait..we gotta eat the damn thing, too? I'm out. Did brussels with bacon last year. Hit with a good balsamic before serving. Make you almost ignore the main course...almost...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (5WpEK)

432 Is there a link for the brussels sprouts recipe?

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (XLiDf)

433 William Shatner demonstrates his exquisite acting in this turkey-fryer PSA.

https://youtu.be/XVixbf-bubs?t=28

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (rnAwa)

434 Just cooked "Momma's Quick Prep Pot Roast" (#340, pg 232 in The Deplorable Gourmet, posted by Holdmyscotch), with my 7 year old daughter as sous-chef. Big hit all around. Delicious with a loaf of sourdough to mop up the broth. And a bottle of Pacific NW Syrah shared with the wife. Absolutely love the book - if there's a vol 2, I will submit a contribution.

Posted by: Mike at November 18, 2018 06:49 PM (/A6g2)

435 You celebrated thanksgiving? We were so poor we didn't have a calendar to know what day thanksgiving was on!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

436 435 You celebrated thanksgiving? We were so poor we didn't have a calendar to know what day thanksgiving was on!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

We were so poor we couldn't afford to give thanks. The best we could do was grudging acknowledgement.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (NWiLs)

437 They never go away.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

Like herpes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)


*******

I feel a rash coming on.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (0tfLf)

438 One year we turned a rock in the ditch over and found a lobster under there. That was the best Thanksgiving ever.

Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (UdKB7)

439 So Based Herk does appear to have a YT channel, but sadly it contains no content. But it does have several hundred subscribers, which is odd. Maybe people just looking forward to some insane, incoherent videos.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (5aX2M)

440 Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (5WpEK)

Great minds!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (t0Z53)

441 IIRC, Joe Theisman's legs didn't break. The lower leg went the wrong way at the knee. Am I misremembering it?

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (3HNOQ)

442 437 They never go away.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

Like herpes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)


*******

I feel a rash coming on.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (0tfLf)

Valtrex (acyclovir) can reduce recurrent outbreaks, and shorten the duration of current ones. Ask your doctor about Valtrex!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

443 Gee. I just don't understand why there has NEVER been any investment there since.

I've done what I could. ...without Hillary finding out, that is!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (CE5C/)

444 443 Gee. I just don't understand why there has NEVER been any investment there since.

I've done what I could. ...without Hillary finding out, that is!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (CE5C/)

Spread herpes?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (NWiLs)

445 Valtrex (acyclovir) can reduce recurrent outbreaks, and shorten the duration of current ones. Ask your doctor about Valtrex!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM

******

I'm thinking this rash may last longer than 4 hours.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (0tfLf)

446 Yud, hmmmmmm... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (miE9U)

447 Today we cooked a test turkey in our new charbroil infra-red oil-less fryer. Everyone and I mean everyone should have one. In fact if I win lotto I'm getting everyone one of them.... and a gun.

13 lbs. 2 hours. Moist. Wonderfullness.
Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (+6jVU)

If there's no oil, it's not a fryer. Full stop. Frying is defined as cooking food in hot oil or grease. Sometimes just thin film in fry pan, sometimes by immersing it.

What you have is just a big toaster oven. It might even cook good turkey, but the critter is being roasted, not fried.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (fDU8w)

448 Made a test run of shoo-fly pie today. Not bad but needs a little twerking.

Hmmmm. . . What would Freud say about that?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:53 PM (9rIkM)

449 What to do with your Brussels sprouts
https://youtu.be/3-uxdrMt4k0

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:53 PM (6VrXf)

450 IIRC, Joe Theisman's legs didn't break. The lower leg went the wrong way at the knee. Am I misremembering it?

You might be remembering a running back who had that happen to both knees on a hit. MacGhee? Something like that.

Theismann had a compound fracture.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 06:54 PM (Y9zp1)

451 I am pretty sure my mom tried cooking a turkey in a microwave oven back when the ovens were a new thing.

Posted by: RTW at November 18, 2018 06:54 PM (jJlJu)

452 That's a horrible story. Poor doggie.

Posted by: ALH at November 18, 2018 06:54 PM (dczB+)

453 Maple syrup is not only good with French toasts but with bananas

Posted by: Marc at November 18, 2018 06:55 PM (V3Esc)

454 Mmmmmmm Shoo-fly pie

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:55 PM (6VrXf)

455 I am going to pioneer the trend of cooking a turkey with an Oxyacetylene torch.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (dNzKv)

Saw that many (inserts extra "many" upon reflection) years ago on the old "You Asked For It" TV show. The guy used a large rosebud heating tip, IIRC. Cooked chickens, though, not a turkey.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:55 PM (fDU8w)

456 Open fire and a spit

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:56 PM (6VrXf)

457 I've seen a house fly.
And I've seen a horse fly.
But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:56 PM (0tfLf)

458 But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

I have.

Posted by: GWB at November 18, 2018 06:57 PM (Y9zp1)

459 I'm eating one of those prepared meals with barbecued ribs. I'm not real crazy about it. It tastes OK, but I'm more used to boneless meat.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

460 But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

Posted by: Diogenes
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Diogenes, from Dumbo?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:58 PM (9rIkM)

461 It tastes OK, but I'm more used to boneless meat.

Posted by: rickl
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Whatever makes you happy son.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:58 PM (9rIkM)

462 Although I want a turkey fryer, I once saw a brochure on using one. It was titled:

"So you're going to set yourself, your house and all your loved ones completely on fire"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:59 PM (miE9U)

463 Hey AOP the tinyurl link didn't work for me.

Hey i just remebered there's these things that appeared in the pantry today called "double chocolate muffins".

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:00 PM (UdKB7)

464 Theisman tweeted that the injury was exactly like his. Reports say that he's correct. Broken tibia and fibula. Joe said that he thinks medical advances give him hope for better recovery for Alex.

Isn't an air fryer pretty much a convection oven?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:00 PM (t0Z53)

465 'I have.
Posted by: GWB'

Ha!

Posted by: Duck! at November 18, 2018 07:01 PM (UdKB7)

466 Story at HotAir:

"Cindy McCain: President Trump is 'a negative Nancy'"

Oooo! Watch that mouth, Cindy!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:02 PM (miE9U)

467 I ain't never seen an elephant fly.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 07:02 PM (3HNOQ)

468 But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

Posted by: Diogenes
----
Diogenes, from Dumbo?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:58 PM

*****

More or less. Paraphrase.
Best I could do after a weekend at the in-laws (who are Mormons) and I'm only now getting caught up on my single malt intake.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 07:03 PM (0tfLf)

469 Wow, the thread is infested with a bunch of cooking savages. Next thing you know, they'll be talking about putting syrup on waffles.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (WEBkv)


Well, I'm a Savage because I like peanut butter and maple syrup on my waffles...and pancakes...and French Toast.

Posted by: Travelin' Man at November 18, 2018 07:03 PM (a8wxA)

470 Link don't work aop
Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (UdKB7)

Try this:


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7gb6du8

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (fDU8w)

471 Isn't an air fryer pretty much a convection oven?



Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:00 PM (t0Z53)


Yes, it's a convection oven.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (tT986)

472

Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died and thankful no one brought up the most vile of green things...okra.

Okra is only vile if it's not fried and served with cornbread.

Greetings, gastronomical Morons.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (HaL55)

473 I now know what I want to do with the KoC turkey. I am going to pick up a deep fryer in the after Thanksgiving sales.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (3HNOQ)

474 Well, I'm a Savage because I like peanut butter and maple syrup on my waffles...and pancakes...and French Toast.
Posted by: Travelin' Man at November 18, 2018 07:03 PM (a8wxA)

******

Mash a banana into that peanut butter and you are a true brute!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (0tfLf)

475 Steamed okra is like....turds.
Gotta be fried. Or cut up and put into gumbo.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (3HNOQ)

476 JAS, I mentioned this before, but my favorite Cajun place has fried okra. They call it "the devil's popcorn."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (miE9U)

477 Nood

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (H5knJ)

478 Debating whether to fry up some buffalo wings, or just get something at Wahoo's tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (miE9U)

479 Hiya, BackwardsBoy.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (t+qrx)

480 Oh a Flexible. Very cool. What kind of motor does that thing have?

Mine's a 76 GMC. Like in Stripes, minus the machine guns and rocket launchers.

Posted by: Duck! at November 18, 2018 07:09 PM (UdKB7)

481
What you have is just a big toaster oven. It might even cook good turkey, but the critter is being roasted, not fried.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (fDU8w)

That's just mean.

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (+6jVU)

482

If there's no oil, it's not a fryer.

Thank you for pointing out of Life's Truisms.
That's like UCF proclaiming their 2017 football team to be National Champions simply because they were undefeated. That's bullshit and if there's a way to email the NCAA, I'm going to do that tomorrow to ask if there was another college national championship that was not televised that the entire rest of the country somehow missed.
UCF didn't even play My Beloved Crimson Tide, much less defeat them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (HaL55)

483 We had a "convection" toaster oven that made crouton toast. You couldn't turn off the stupid fan. It died in a fire of its own making and there was much rejoicing.

The oil to fry a turkey costs about 50 bucks and is kind of difficult to save and reuse.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (t0Z53)

484

Hey, hogmartin and all the rest of the Horde. Here's hoping everybody has a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (HaL55)

485 Least favorite way to eat okra is raw. Fried is probably next least. Stewed is perfectly acceptable. But in gumbo (African word for okra, I think) is on the table in heaven. Every day.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (zLDYs)

486 Hey, hogmartin and all the rest of the Horde. Here's hoping everybody has a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (HaL55)

Seconded!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (t0Z53)

487 Regarding a recipe for turkey neck gravy, I just looked one up on the interwebs. The idea is to get some good fat and broth, so I sometimes buy additional parts to get a good batch up.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 07:14 PM (NMAzL)

488 That's like UCF proclaiming their 2017 football team
to be National Champions simply because they were undefeated. That's
bullshit and if there's a way to email the NCAA, I'm going to do that
tomorrow to ask if there was another college national championship that
was not televised that the entire rest of the country somehow missed.
UCF didn't even play My Beloved Crimson Tide, much less defeat them.




Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (HaL55)


I understand why UCF feels like they're getting the short shrift, but they need to quit complaining. It doesn't help their case.


Also, College GameDay shows up in Orlando and the best they could do for a guest picker was Maury Povich!?!?

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 07:14 PM (tT986)

489

I understand why UCF feels like they're getting the short shrift, but
they need to quit complaining. It doesn't help their case.


They're not getting shorted. They didn't make the NCAA football playoffs for some very good reasons, chief among them is they didn't play any highly ranked teams to qualify. Tough shit for them. Try harder next time. You lost.


They're acting like children, which is most unbecoming. The NCAA needs to stop this or else everybody will just proclaim themselves NatChamps. I can't understand why they'd allow that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:24 PM (HaL55)

490 >>> Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving.<<<

One word: Trainwreck! In Spades!

You'll be dropped out of the Thanksgiving dinner rotation for a decade.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 07:28 PM (Z9C5C)

491 Brussels sprouts were always iffy for me because all too often they were bitter. Brussels sprouts that are not bitter and slathered in butter is a great dish. But I now believe that cutting the white off the bottom helps with the bitterness. And I agree that bacon adds to the flavor. I mean, what doesn't bacon improve?

Had great Brussels sprouts at a Greek restaurant earlier this year. They were halved and sauteed (to within an inch of their life), with bacon, walnuts and pomegranate seeds. The surprise was that they rested on a bed of mashed butternut squash, and the dish was seasoned with Ras el Hanout ("Top of the Shelf"), a middle eastern spice that is a mixture of about a dozen different "sweet" spices, like cinnamon, cardamon, etc. It was one heavenly dish! I still make it when the grocer has fresh Brussels sprouts available.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at November 18, 2018 07:32 PM (RkS3d)

492 I understand why UCF feels like they're getting the short shrift, but they need to quit complaining. It doesn't help their case.

Git yer own TV network to sponsor you! We're full up at NBC.

Posted by: Notre Dame at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (OiC69)

493 70
Which pies are you getting grammie?



Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (HKPap)


Pumpkin,
because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to.
Raspberry/Blackberry, because at least you can call it a fruit, and
daughter will thereby maybe, just maybe, let the grandkids have some.
She's a food nazi.


Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

grammie, I have found that the food nazi parents I have witnessed over the years are generally terrible at, or just hate cooking.

Why they take their failures out on their kids is another story altogether.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 18, 2018 07:39 PM (UsCnO)

494 Git yer own TV network to sponsor you! We're full up at NBC.


Posted by: Notre Dame at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (OiC69)


Pretty much.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (tT986)

495 My M I L did a chicken that wy. It was inedible, but to be fair, nothing she cooks is fit to eat.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 18, 2018 08:01 PM (Jj+59)

496 The optimum temperature to cook a whole turkey is 400 F.

It helps to have the turkey at room temp or at least even temperature when starting.

Posted by: MAGA at November 18, 2018 08:08 PM (/8RAd)

497 I'm not cooking this year, just bringing Bakers Square pies.

This thread gives me the sadz. I'm going to miss having good stuffing. My SIL makes the worst.

Posted by: Gem at November 18, 2018 08:18 PM (XoAz8)

498 Re that chocolate pecan pie - It's been a constant at our Christmas Dessert orgy for years. One year someone made it with German Chocolate and it was even better. Go for it.

Posted by: Ruth H at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (jxaoW)

499 My husband did something like that, in around 1982(3?).

He'd been given a turkey - about 12 pounds or so. He decided to speed up the process of cooking it - so stuck it into the microwave. He finished it off for about an hour in the oven.

It was terrific - moist and juicy. He only blasted it with microwaves for around 15-20 minutes or so. But, as a result of that pre-cooking, he took our making dinner process from over 4 hours to around 1-1/2 hours.

Posted by: Lnda Fox at November 19, 2018 04:46 AM (V1Os2)

An Unequivical Lesson On How Not To Deal With Terrorism

One of the goals of terrorist groups around the world is to provoke an overreaction from the government being attacked, and precipitating a backlash that weakens the target in the eyes of the world. Israel is no stranger to this, and has suffered that backlash no matter what its initial reaction. The UN in particular relishes terrorist attacks on Israel, because it can then trot out its tired old canards about disproportionate force and illegitimacy and a host of thinly veiled anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist arguments. They are followed by the same list of countries proclaiming their own moral superiority over Israel, while conveniently forgetting their own behaviors in response to terrorist attacks.

The unfortunate expectation is that no matter what Israel does in response to terrorism, or steps that it takes to prevent terrorist attacks will be seen by much of the world as inappropriate. So why bother trying to carefully titrate its response to the daily attacks on its land and people, whether by "lone Wolf" attacks at bus stops or concerted efforts to storm the border by thousands of rioters, or most dangerous, the launching of rocket attacks into Israeli cities?

What happens when Israel does not respond forcefully is exactly what just happened.

How Hamas Brought Israel to the Brink of Election Chaos

Israel’s defense minister Avigdor Lieberman resigned on November 14 in the wake of a ceasefire agreement with Hamas in Gaza. His resignation has now plunged Israeli politics into chaos as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must juggle what’s left of his fragile coalition government and is being pressured to appoint Naftali Bennett, head of the Jewish Home party, as the new defense minister. Hamas, which has been challenging Israel with six months of protests and rocket fire from Gaza, has now achieved what it sees as a victory. Despite its inability to penetrate Israel’s defenses around Gaza, it may bring down the government.
The problem with Netanyahu's strategy is that after so many years, the pallies now know that what is inside the velvet glove is not an iron fist but a bowl of Jello. Until the people of Gaza are more afraid of Israel than they are their rulers, the attacks will continue, and Israelis will be killed. If Israel is to be vilified no matter what, then the rational response is to inflict maximum damage on its enemies until they lose the will or capacity to conduct terrorist attacks on Israel. If that means immediate artillery attacks on all rocket launch sites regardless of their locations? Then do it. If that means pushing back the border to provide more room for crowd control? Do it. If that means destroying all Hamas facilities no matter where they are? Do it.

Israel will be demonized no matter what. Why not get the best bang for that public-relations disaster buck?

Posted by: CBD at 02:25 PM




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1 Love Jews but hate Israel.
Love free speech but also love beating people up for talking.
Love fair and free elections but take it to court when they lose

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2018 02:28 PM (uEbPt)

2 This doesn't happen very often.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 02:28 PM (K22Va)

3 Proportional responses are the recipe for a cycle of violence/reprisal. Either hit them so hard it takes years to recover or don't hit them at all.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 18, 2018 02:32 PM (jp0Bv)

4 Israel needs to comply (finally) with the instructions given to them by God himself: push those people off of your land.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 18, 2018 02:32 PM (KCxuz)

5 1 Love Jews but hate Israel.
Love free speech but also love beating people up for talking.
Love fair and free elections but take it to court when they lose
Posted by: ... at November 18, 2018 02:28 PM (uEbPt)


This is why I cannot relate to the Left. No self-consistency.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 02:33 PM (4HMW8)

6 Nelson officially conceded to Scott. Whew!

Posted by: Jmel at November 18, 2018 02:33 PM (WJvBz)

7 Also, proportional responses are actually immoral. When in a war, the only ethical path is to pour on maximum damage to end the war as fast as possible. We should learn this lesson ourselves.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 18, 2018 02:34 PM (KCxuz)

8 Imagine a boxing match where the fighters are limited to hitting their opponent no harder than they were just hit.

You hit me, I hit you back, now you hit me again so I can hit you back. There would be no end to the fight.

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 02:34 PM (hrcfq)

9 Just flatten the fux.

Israel will be blamed anyway.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at November 18, 2018 02:36 PM (h7sWp)

10 I've always wondered, is Netanyahu related to Yahoo Serious?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 02:38 PM (+y/Ru)

11 Called the corgis.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 18, 2018 02:38 PM (KCxuz)

12 Imagine a boxing match where the fighters are limited to hitting their opponent no harder than they were just hit.

You hit me, I hit you back, now you hit me again so I can hit you back. There would be no end to the fight.

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Reminiscent of Ares in Wonder Woman.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 02:39 PM (+y/Ru)

13 So we're officially clear now with Kemp, DeSantis and Scott. Mia Love looks like she will win her race. So they only stole AZ and Florida AG commish.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at November 18, 2018 02:40 PM (NOtE/)

14 Naftali Bennett had awsome election ads in the last Israeli election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGWJ1vIf44

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 18, 2018 02:41 PM (vWMNq)

15 I think Hamas already got their win when the Israeli government agreed to a cease-fire a week after saying the gloves are coming off.

A few months down the road the rocket and mortar attacks will start back up and then what? They'll threaten to take their gloves off again? And then probably agree to another cease-fire a few days after that.

Posted by: Sjg at November 18, 2018 02:41 PM (gDSJf)

16 I would adopt an ROE that ensures the fight will eventually end. Such as: every time a Hamas bomb gets thrown at Israel, the army goes in and annexes the place it came from. Permanently.
If Israel can only have peace by annexing every inch of land between the borders of Greece, India, and Sudan, and killing every Muslim there, then do it and get it over with.

Posted by: jdgalt at November 18, 2018 02:42 PM (3SFo/)

17 So we're officially clear now with Kemp, DeSantis and Scott. Mia Love looks like she will win her race. So they only stole AZ and Florida AG commish.
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at November 18, 2018 02:40 PM (NOtE/)

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Aren't they doing a hand recount of Florida Ag still?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 02:42 PM (ffYR/)

18
Time to cut off all ties to the palis. Permanently wall off every road into Gaza and the West Bank. No more palis crossing into Israel for work every day. No more money, freight or anything moving in either direction. Let the PLO and Hamas savages figure out how to feed their own people, and run their own economy.

As bad as the recent weak responses are to pali aggressions, the current system of Israel subsidizing the pali economy is even worse. Like it or not, the palis are effectively independent, so kick 'em to the curb, sink or swim.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2018 02:42 PM (eXA4G)

19 Just saw some very upsetting news:

Young Kim, the Korean-American woman (R) Ca with the compelling personal story, who you never heard of, who won her seat after 100% on election night...has LOST because of 6,000 "found" ballots.

WTF is conservative media on this? Proof that, with a few exceptions, Fox is a lost cause. Even Breitbart dropped the ball.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at November 18, 2018 02:43 PM (vr3wn)

20 The FL Ag Commissioner issues and does oversight of CCW permits. The Dem is a gun grabber.

That was the whole point of the Broward fraud

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 02:44 PM (mUa7G)

21 Hamas, which has been challenging Israel with six months of protests and rocket fire from Gaza, has now achieved what it sees as a victory. Despite its inability to penetrate Israel's defenses around Gaza, it may bring down the government.

Does this mean that Israel is about to turn left too?

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 02:45 PM (sdi6R)

22 Nelson officially conceded to Scott. Whew!


Nelson's face, however, has still not budged on the issue.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 02:47 PM (LL1Be)

23 A few months down the road the rocket and mortar attacks will start back up and then what? They'll threaten to take their gloves off again? And then probably agree to another cease-fire a few days after that.

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They say that it's easy to draw the sword but hard to sheath it in its scabbard. That's not been the case for Israel's enemies. They draw the sword whenever they wish then just end the war when they begin to lose. It's time for a little live by the sword, die by the sword.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 02:49 PM (+y/Ru)

24 Israel will be demonized no matter what. Why not get the best bang for that public-relations disaster buck?

Better to be hung as a sheep rather than as a lamb.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 02:51 PM (xSo9G)

25 Young Kim, the Korean-American woman (R) Ca with the compelling personal story, who you never heard of, who won her seat after 100% on election night...has LOST because of 6,000 "found" ballots.

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The wonderful thing about ballots is ballots are wonderfully found.

Posted by: Donk Tigger at November 18, 2018 02:52 PM (+y/Ru)

26 Sidebar spit-take


I never said People of Color because it's the sort of thing People of Stupid say

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 02:52 PM (LL1Be)

27 Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 02:53 PM (Fh8wK)

28 from the previous thread:

63 Steve Bannon talks at Oxford

https://youtu.be/8AtOw-xyMo8

Required viewing, although maybe not on a nice Sunday afternoon
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 01:21 PM (rnAwa)

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 02:54 PM (eJj1Q)

29 Of course, the exact argument applies to Leftists from Americans viewpoint.

Posted by: SDN at November 18, 2018 02:57 PM (4epXx)

30 I never said People of Color because it's the sort of thing People of Stupid say

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Two unanswerable questions: How high is up! How crazy is unhinged?

Posted by: Donk Tigger at November 18, 2018 02:59 PM (+y/Ru)

31 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period. They are either there, or they aren't there.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM (lwiT4)

32 As noted above, Nelson conceded to Scott for senate in Florida.

Nelson conceded gracefully, too. Apparently he didn't get the DNC memo to throw a tantrum and scream about cheating.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM (miE9U)

33
If my neighbor was firing rockets towards my house and threatening my life, and those I love? I would kill him dead. With my bare hands, if needed.

'Collateral damage'? Tough shit. Should have thought of that beforehand.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:01 PM (e7O7B)

34 Re Israel, I hope they are still working with Saudi against Iran, which seems to have become less of a threat lately.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 03:02 PM (miE9U)

35 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period. They are either there, or they aren't there.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM


Just like a game of poker. Everyone shows their hand at the same time. No one sees the other players cards and reaches back into the stack for a better card.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:02 PM (e7O7B)

36 31 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period. They are either there, or they aren't there.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM (lwiT4)
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I've been thinking the same thing. Make the cutoff for absentee ballots a month earlier.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 03:02 PM (SCOEt)

37 Adam Schmitt responds to Trump calling him Little,

- Good one Mr. President. Did you come up with that on your own.


Or something like that.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 18, 2018 03:04 PM (1g7ch)

38 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period. They are either there, or they aren't there.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM (lwiT4)
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Certainly better than playing the Schroedinger's Ballot game.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 03:05 PM (XXadE)

39 I saw an article by Billy Graham about voting in the November 7, 1960 issue of Life magazine. Hopefully this link will go directly to the article, but if not, it's on pages 109-110:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yau66crw

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 03:05 PM (sdi6R)

40
You think the media wasn't getting 'exit polling' data and passing it onto the (D)'s?

Psst. You need 20,000 votes.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:05 PM (e7O7B)

41 Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down....
Do do do do
Whatever. Just thought I would share that.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 18, 2018 03:07 PM (myjNJ)

42 One of the goals of terrorist groups around the world is to provoke an overreaction

Short of nukes....There isn't one.
Premeditated, nation-sponsored murder as policy?

Too bad, goat-humpers. Just consider the retaliation as the will of Allah.



Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:08 PM (LL1Be)

43 Israel just needs to pound the shit out of them. And we need to pound the shit out of the Democrap fraud machine.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 03:08 PM (NWiLs)

44 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period. They are either there, or they aren't there.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM (lwiT4)


You'd think that was the point of the Florida law requiring reporting of the total number of ballots cast shortly after the polls close. But apparently you just slip some judge a few c notes and then you can keep the polls open, not report results, even collect ballots days after.

Not to say that some judge was bribed, but I would be disappointed if they did it for nothing but loyalty to the fascist party.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 18, 2018 03:09 PM (1g7ch)

45 Soundtrack for this thread

You go back, Jack
You go back
Do it again
Wheel's turnin' round and round
You go back, Jack
Do it again

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 03:10 PM (+y/Ru)

46 43 Israel just needs to pound the shit out of them. And we need to pound the shit out of the Democrap fraud machine.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 03:08 PM (NWiLs)


I agree with you completely, but how is that going to happen short of lethal force?

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 03:10 PM (sdi6R)

47 Geez! The correct answer is obviously stuffing.

https://bit.ly/2Fvu3O6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 03:14 PM (+y/Ru)

48 There has never been a ceasefire only a hudna.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 03:16 PM (T1Aes)

49 If you don't punish bad behavior you get more of it

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 03:16 PM (6VrXf)

50 The sad fact is that After Begin and Sharon, Israel has let it's "Deterrence" go to shit.

Part of the problem is admittedly the movement left of the Western Democracies, including up till PDT America. But part of the problem has been the lack of an Israeli Leadership with balls. That kind of Leadership died in an ambulance outside of Hebrew University Hospital at Ein Karem.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 03:16 PM (Fh8wK)

51 I never said People of Color because it's the sort of thing People of Stupid say
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 02:52 PM (LL1Be)


This.

I enjoy goofing on liberals about this.

"He's tall? That's offensive. You mean 'he's a person of height.'" Etc.

The other one I like to do is to change up the preposition at random.

He's a person with color/ about color/ between color/ to color/ in color/ etc.

Drives libs wild.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:16 PM (1+J19)

52 I agree with you completely, but how is that going to happen short of lethal force?

Obama and Hillary cultivated the Deep State.
Soros funded his SOS project and got inside the OODA loop. The Prog-coms then looked at the big red map of (R) counties and started pouring even more money into local races.

We need to tighten our turns so that we are inside of their loop. Somehow. While we hold full-time non-activist, non-agitator jobs.

Appointing judges is Trump's effort to at least beat them in the judicial branch. One hellacious confirmation at a time.
"I might fail" - Donald J Trump

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:17 PM (LL1Be)

53
There has never been a ceasefire only a hudna.
Posted by: Ben Had


Is that the rock creature on Star Trek?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 03:17 PM (aKsyK)

54 I agree with you completely, but how is that going to happen short of lethal force?
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 03:10 PM u(sdi6R)

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Can't and won't. What are you gonna do? Take them to court?

We all know there's no law for them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 03:18 PM (5aX2M)

55 HEY!!! Has the DemoCRAZY'S stolen Fla. Governor's & Senator's race like some here were screaming about running around with their hair on fire ?? Asking for a friend

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 03:18 PM (BqBId)

56 If you don't punish bad behavior you get more of it

-
See Clinton, Hillary and Bill.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 03:18 PM (+y/Ru)

57 'Collateral damage'? Tough shit. Should have thought of that beforehand.
Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:01 PM (e7O7B)


German and Japanese civilians nod.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:19 PM (jyVW0)

58 Appointing judges is Trump's effort to at least beat them in the judicial branch. One hellacious confirmation at a time.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:17 PM (LL1Be)


Trump's reformation of the Federal judiciary is a rare and welcome beacon of hope.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:20 PM (jyVW0)

59 I love when the demonrats start talking about getting money out of the elections. My first reaction is, yeah and you can start with all the Soros money. Then move on to Steyer and Bloomberg

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 03:21 PM (gEvQ8)

60 The penalty for an attack, any attack, has to be the use of overwhelming force. Until the penalty for a behavior exceeds the perceived gain, then the behavior will continue.

It's not a difficult concept, particularly if I can figure it out.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 03:22 PM (MVjcR)

61 Slaving a battery of 155 Paladins to the excellent Iron Dome radars would have counter battery fire falling on the launch sites in 90 seconds. Warn the civilians that if they hear rockets launching, they better run for their lives.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:22 PM (yQpMk)

62 57 'Collateral damage'? Tough shit. Should have thought of that beforehand.
Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:01 PM (e7O7B)

German and Japanese civilians nod.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:19 PM (jyVW0)
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Exactly.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 03:23 PM (MVjcR)

63 Has the DemoCRAZY'S stolen Fla. Governor's & Senator's race like some here were screaming about running around with their hair on fire ??


They came shockingly close in the Senate race, and succeeded in AZ.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:23 PM (yQpMk)

64 Shouldn't Lieberman see the same thing as us that his resignation is seen as a victory for Hamas? He could have hung on and continued to make his case or waited . Will his resignation cause Israel to take the gloves off?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 03:25 PM (2DOZq)

65 - Good one Mr. President. Did you come up with that on your own.



The deadly Rubber-Glue Gambit. Do right, no defense!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:26 PM (yQpMk)

66 61 Slaving a battery of 155 Paladins to the excellent Iron Dome radars would have counter battery fire falling on the launch sites in 90 seconds. Warn the civilians that if they hear rockets launching, they better run for their lives.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:22 PM (yQpMk)


Does anybody do MLRS anymore?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 18, 2018 03:26 PM (1g7ch)

67 All Hamas needs is a pallet of cash. Everybody knows that.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 18, 2018 03:27 PM (Y9zp1)

68 Israel could use a "bulldozer" right about now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 03:27 PM (Fh8wK)

69 Rules? We don't need no stinking rules, - this is WAR!

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 03:27 PM (Z9C5C)

70 McSally lost Arizona. Trump helped make it closer race.
McSally still had a few million left in the campaign fund when it was all over with.
Best comment on that thread?
" I'm at almost 3/4 fuel. Returning to base."

- Fighter Pilot McSally

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:27 PM (LL1Be)

71 What Would Patton Do?

Kill them until it is over.

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 03:28 PM (RuIsu)

72 "Go ahead and make your jokey-jokes, Mr. Jokemaker."

Posted by: Little Adam Schitt at November 18, 2018 03:28 PM (LL1Be)

73 71
What Would Patton Do?



Kill them until it is over.

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 03:28 PM (RuIsu)

Then kill them again, just to make sure.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 03:29 PM (gEvQ8)

74 Good one Mr. President. Did you come up with that on your own.

Well, I think the "Schitt" part he probably came up with on his own.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 03:29 PM (AllCR)

75 How ham fisted was the cheating in WI?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

76 59 I love when the demonrats start talking about getting money out of the elections. My first reaction is, yeah and you can start with all the Soros money. Then move on to Steyer and Bloomberg
Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 03:21 PM (gEvQ


And then they bleat about Citizens United (corporations putting money into elections) but shrug about unions doing exactly the same thing.

I believe unions are legally corporations themselves, in the sense of being a group of natural people acting as if they were a person. Legal beagles, is that correct?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:30 PM (CDGwz)

77 Make the locals part of the effort. If you tolerate assholes in the neighborhood launching rockets, then don't act all WTF? when your shit gets blown up. Pretty soon their tolerance for anti-social behavior will begin to fade.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 03:31 PM (MVjcR)

78 70 McSally lost Arizona. Trump helped make it closer race.
McSally still had a few million left in the campaign fund when it was all over with.
Best comment on that thread?
" I'm at almost 3/4 fuel. Returning to base."

- Fighter Pilot McSally

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:27 PM (LL1Be)
i don't think she wanted to win....i don't think she's as a type as people would have us believe......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:31 PM (0O7c5)

79 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period.

I'm sure there already is. Even better would be "everybody report at midnight".

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 03:31 PM (98WNR)

80 The "disproportionate response" for America is to build a wall or enforce borders at all. At least Israel is internally willing to fight and control their border with substantial barriers, and to blow up tunnels even with terrorists in them.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2018 03:33 PM (Cus5s)

81 I think McSally is likely to be appointed to the other Senate seat by Ducey when it is vacated , right?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:33 PM (LL1Be)

82 >>You go back, Jack
You go back
Do it again
Wheel's turnin' round and round
You go back, Jack
Do it again

Jeff Baxter has to be one of the most interesting guys in rock. He was interested in some of the software and algorithms used in recoding and it led him to to a second career in missile technology.

Now he works as a defense contractor advising the government on missile technology.

Carry on.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 03:34 PM (/tuJf)

83 Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:23 PM (yQpMk)
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10,000 + votes is shockingly close ?

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 03:35 PM (BqBId)

84 McSally may not have been the best candidate but what type of person votes for her fucked up opponent? I blame the voters just like in Alabama.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 03:36 PM (2DOZq)

85 81 I think McSally is likely to be appointed to the other Senate seat by Ducey when it is vacated , right?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:33 PM (LL1Be)
i hope not.....she didn't fight for the seat....i voted for her....because i wasn't going to vote for a commie....and that always seems to be the problem here in az....it's either a rino or a commie running for these important seats.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:36 PM (0O7c5)

86 i don't think she wanted to win....i don't think she's as a type as people would have us believe......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:31 PM (0O7c5)

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I'm sure she wanted to win, she just didn't want to do the work it would have taken to get there. Like Felonia, she seemed to want it just handed to her.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 03:37 PM (ffYR/)

87 Israel will be demonized no matter what. Why not get the best bang for that public-relations disaster buck?
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Gee, that can just as easily be rewritten:

"Conservatives will be demonized no matter what. Why not get the best bang for that public-relations disaster buck?"

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 03:38 PM (WEBkv)

88 We're backing the weak horse with Israel. Ive always backed them, but they're losing their will to exist.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 18, 2018 03:38 PM (7PllL)

89

Two Republican state lawmakers have released draft legislation that would address Indiana's lack of a hate crimes law by giving judges the ability to consider bias as an aggravating factor when considering prison sentences.

The draft covers bias-motivated crimes based on race, religion, color, sex, gender identity, disability, national origin, ancestry and sexual orientation.

Indiana is one of only five states without an explicit hate crimes law.

Gov. Eric Holcomb called on lawmakers in July to pass a hate crimes law after anti-Semitic graffiti was spray-painted at a Carmel synagogue.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 03:39 PM (aKsyK)

90 i hope not.....she didn't fight for the seat....i voted for her....because i wasn't going to vote for a commie....and that always seems to be the problem here in az....it's either a rino or a commie running for these important seats.
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:36 PM (0O7c5)
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When I lived in AZ, Janet Napolitano was governor.

AZ has some serious schizophrenia when it comes to politicians.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 03:40 PM (WEBkv)

91 10,000 + votes is shockingly close ?

Barely .1% so, yeah.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:40 PM (yQpMk)

92 Posted by: Regular joe at November 18, 2018 03:38 PM (7PllL)

Crap

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 03:40 PM (Fh8wK)

93 Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:29 PM (yQpMk)
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are you missing I SPECIFICALLY stated Fla. on purpose ???

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 03:41 PM (BqBId)

94 Looking at Bannon's speech at Oxford Union.

He makes a lot of interesting points, I just wish he didn't look like a hobo somebody baby-wiped and stuffed into a peacoat.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 03:42 PM (kQs4Y)

95 calm mentor.....that could be
blake....we sure do....it's strange....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:43 PM (0O7c5)

96 Especially considering that 701,469 people voted in Broward County alone. Apparently 24,763 voters left the Senate race blank, thank you God,.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:43 PM (yQpMk)

97 Two Republican state lawmakers have released draft legislation that would address Indiana's lack of a hate crimes law by giving judges the ability to consider bias as an aggravating factor when considering prison sentences.
Excellent.


Operation Mindcrime - brought to you by the letter "R".

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:44 PM (LL1Be)

98 are you missing I SPECIFICALLY stated Fla. on purpose ???


???

The margin of Scott's victory appears to be about .12%.

I guess I don't understand your point.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:45 PM (yQpMk)

99 Make a law. You can't 'find' ballots after the polls have closed. Period. They are either there, or they aren't there.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 03:00 PM (lwiT4)

-----------------------------

Unfortunately gramm it just means Dems will conveniently lose R ballots on election night leaving us with no recourse. You can't reason with the unreasonable.

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2018 03:45 PM (uEbPt)

100 What's the latest on Mia Love?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 03:46 PM (2DOZq)

101 When are there elections again and could Netanyhu lose to more of a hardliner?i

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 03:48 PM (AllCR)

102 Colorado is lost. I read in the local fish wrap yesterday that they are pushing for Cali emissions by 2022.

smfh

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (SzQWn)

103 This rule applies to dealing with the Left in general. They will always be viciously attacking you no matter what so don't bother worrying about mitigating your response.

It's the principle laid out in the Life or Brian blasphemy trial.

"You're only making it worse for yourself"

"Worse??? How could it get any worse?"

No matter how conciliatory you are, they'll be just as vicious.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (/qEW2)

104
Prior to Nagasaki and Hiroshima the US Air Force dropped leaflets on both towns (and a few others) advising the civilians to get the hell out of Dodge. I've never heard reports that either place was a 'ghost town' when the atoms split.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (e7O7B)

105 i don't know why we have early voting, i don't know why we have absentee for people who not actually absentee.....
the day of the vote is the day of the vote.....get there or don't get there.....only the ones that get there, with their id, get to vote. make the proper arrangements.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (0O7c5)

106 Does anybody do MLRS anymore?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 18, 2018 03:26 PM (1g7ch)

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Yes.

Posted by: SMH at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (D5Wea)

107 The draft covers bias-motivated crimes based on race, religion, color, sex, gender identity, disability, national origin, ancestry and sexual orientation.

How about political affiliation?

Hate crimes are bullshit. What's the antonym - love crimes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (Wd55D)

108 Last I'd heard, she'd gone ahead.

And why the crap are they still counting ballots ten days later?!?!?!

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 03:50 PM (XXadE)

109
Republican Scott wins Florida U.S. Senate seat after manual recount




So the Republicans were able to win a few seats in spite of all of the outright fraud going on

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 18, 2018 03:50 PM (SiINZ)

110 105 i don't know why we have early voting, i don't know why we have absentee for people who not actually absentee.....
the day of the vote is the day of the vote.....get there or don't get there.....only the ones that get there, with their id, get to vote. make the proper arrangements.
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (0O7c5)


This.

Now we've moved from "early voting" to "late voting." A week or two later is cool now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:50 PM (Wd55D)

111 "I believe unions are legally corporations
themselvesPosted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

i'm not a lawyer, but unions act as a mob ... or the mob. Teachers give the mob money, the mob owns the politicians ... politicians give the teachers golden deals, clear quid pro quo ... to the tune of $120B debt in IL. Arrest the teachers for bribery.


But yeah, Citizens United let corporations in "the game" ... when it was already unions and the MSM giving billions in free campaign "ads". Now we've added corporations who are globalists and want open borders and "free trade".


They got their tax cuts and deregulation ... but we get zero on the open border front.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2018 03:51 PM (Cus5s)

112 White people is racist. I prefer Person of Whiteness

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2018 03:51 PM (uEbPt)

113 Person of Pallor.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:51 PM (yQpMk)

114

What's a "fire ecologist?"

And what's "fire suppression" in terms of nature in a developed area??



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:51 PM (b16/K)

115 102 Colorado is lost. I read in the local fish wrap yesterday that they are pushing for Cali emissions by 2022.

smfh
Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (SzQWn)


The liberals worry about carbon dioxide in the air, but fruits - now including Colorado's governor - scampering about spreading disease is A-OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (Wd55D)

116 Burnt Toast, I hear Trump actually called Schiff "Adam Schitt."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (miE9U)

117
So the Republicans were able to win a few seats in spite of all of the outright fraud going on

The Republicans were able to hold on to a few seats they Won, you mean.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (b16/K)

118 What's the latest on Mia Love?


Still hawt. I don't care what Trump says.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (fuK7c)

119 Still hawt.


A definite 1.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:53 PM (yQpMk)

120
Republicans are huge huge pussies.

Scott and Desantis would've done nothing, Nothing, if the Democrats and Fake News succeeded in stealing those elections.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:53 PM (b16/K)

121 The Republicans were able to hold on to a few seats they Won, you mean.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (b16/K)


Not so fast. They just found a few thousand more ballots in the trunk of a Buick outside a Kinko's.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:54 PM (Wd55D)

122 This.


Now we've moved from "early voting" to "late voting." A week or two later is cool now.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 03:50 PM (Wd55D)
all from the same people (the left) who would never count the military vote because it didn't arrive on time!!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:55 PM (0O7c5)

123 White people is racist. I prefer Person of Whiteness

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2018 03:51 PM


Nah. Ask for a color chart. I'm an interesting blend of pink, raw umber, and yellow uchre.

How dare you be so color blind as to label me so ignorantly.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 03:55 PM (e7O7B)

124 The Republicans were able to hold on to a few seats they Won, you mean.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (b16/K)



Yeah, that. But others unfortunately were outright stolen or went to the Dems because of the stupidity of the people who vote

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 18, 2018 03:55 PM (SiINZ)

125 When are there elections again and could Netanyhu lose to more of a hardliner?i
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 03:48 PM (AllCR)

good chance of early elections being called. And no. If Netanyahu can not form a Majority, it would likely fall to the a Centerish party

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 03:56 PM (Fh8wK)

126

Like someone here said the other day, McSally sure wanted to win...

the Republican primary.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:56 PM (b16/K)

127 20 The FL Ag Commissioner issues and does oversight of CCW permits. The Dem is a gun grabber.

That was the whole point of the Broward fraud
Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 02:44 PM (mUa7G)

Did Matt Caldwell concede to the Dem bit**?

Posted by: Marybeth at November 18, 2018 03:57 PM (MEgUr)

128 I was reading about Coco Chanel last night.

It kind of pisses me off that she got such a pass for helping out the Nazis, mainly because she was considered rich, pretty and fashionable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 03:58 PM (miE9U)

129
Mitt Romney is our next bane.

This piece of shit Romney only ran for the Senate seat to be a be a Pain In The Ass to President Trump.

You doubt me?
You'll see.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 03:59 PM (b16/K)

130 Over the years I have been amazed at the restraint Israel displays. I would be going Joshua all over the Palis.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 03:59 PM (3HNOQ)

131 Adam Schmitt responds to Trump calling him Little,

- Good one Mr. President. Did you come up with that on your own.

Or something like that.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 18, 2018 03:04 PM (1g7ch)


Proper response. Of course. Unlike you NPCs, we're able to think for ourselves.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)

132 As it does appear that Nikki Fried defeated Republican Matt Caldwell for the Fla Ag Commissioner job, I imagine it would be trivial for the Legislature to move the CCW program to the AG's office. Especially if it was being abused by Fried.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:59 PM (yQpMk)

133 Persons under color of law.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 04:00 PM (aKsyK)

134 Sooth, yup. I think Romney wants to be the next McCain.

"If Trump is for soft fluffy puppies, I'm agin' 'em!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:00 PM (miE9U)

135 Steve: as I mentioned to Burnt Toast, I heard Trump called Schiff "Adam Schitt."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:00 PM (miE9U)

136
I was reading about Coco Chanel last night.

It kind of pisses me off that she got such a pass for helping out the Nazis, mainly because she was considered rich, pretty and fashionable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 03:58 PM


Hell's bells, Jane Fonda got away with aiding and supporting the enemy in a time of conflict for the exact same reasons.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 04:01 PM (e7O7B)

137

Mitt Romney only wanted to win the R primary in Utah for 2 reasons:

1. To lose to the D in the general election, like he did with obama.

or 2. To be a US senator and thwart the President of the United States

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:01 PM (b16/K)

138
This piece of shit Romney only ran for the Senate seat to be a be a Pain In The Ass to President Trump.

He saw how the media loved Flake and wants some of that love.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 04:01 PM (aKsyK)

139 132 Grump - isthe sky blue?

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (6VrXf)

140 Colorado is lost. I read in the local fish wrap yesterday that they are pushing for Cali emissions by 2022.

smfh
Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 03:49 PM (SzQWn)



We may be irrefutably into the Mini Ice Age the Sun seems to be planning for us.

So, a lot of that silly green shite go away by then.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (9X624)

141

Oh, Romney will be much worse than McCain.

Romney is a bad, bad man.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (b16/K)

142 A thousand of theirs to one of ours is a proportional response. Know it, live it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:03 PM (fDU8w)

143
We may be irrefutably into the Mini Ice Age the Sun seems to be planning for us.

So, a lot of that silly green shite go away by then.
Posted by: naturalfake


Wood stoves to make a comeback!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 04:03 PM (aKsyK)

144 Gradually, I think Fonda and Chanel were very similar as people, i.e. very amoral.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:03 PM (miE9U)

145
*points at you*


HIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

Posted by: Mitt Romney with his Bride of Frankenstein white sideburns at November 18, 2018 04:04 PM (9X624)

146 Paul Ryan Democrat. Remember Pauli justice delivered by God is the sweetest kind. Enjoy!

Posted by: John Doe at November 18, 2018 04:04 PM (WX+x0)

147 Romney is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (b16/K)

Romney is berry berry bad man

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 04:04 PM (Fh8wK)

148 81 I think McSally is likely to be appointed to the other Senate seat by Ducey when it is vacated , right?




Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:33 PM (LL1Be)



i hope
not.....she didn't fight for the seat....i voted for her....because i
wasn't going to vote for a commie....and that always seems to be the
problem here in az....it's either a rino or a commie running for these
important seats.





Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 18, 2018 03:36 PM (0O7c5)


It's very possible. When Jon Kyl was appointed he made it clear he was not going to stay long. It's widely expected he'll call it quits by the end of the year. Whoever Ducey appoints will have the option of running in 2020 to fill the remaining two years of the term. Odds are pretty decent McSally will be appointed.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (tT986)

149 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)
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That Adam Schitt answered it all tells me his Squeakhole is tightening

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 18, 2018 04:06 PM (BqBId)

150 >>Oh, Romney will be much worse than McCain.

>>Romney is a bad, bad man.

On what? He's been advocating for a border wall since he was governor. He was a supporter of of Kavanaugh before Trump knew who he was. He ran on repealing Obamacare. He and Netanyahu have been close friends for years.

What's he going to go against him on? He may not like Trump's temperament all that much but I don't see him voting against him on policy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:07 PM (/tuJf)

151 Good one Mr. President. Did you come up with that on your own.
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Mitt Romney will try to form a bloc with Sasse, Collins, and Murkowski. If he succeeds he might as well be leading the Senate, and you'll have an effective Dem majority. Needless to say, I hope he fails.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (5aX2M)

152 He may not like Trump's temperament all that much but I don't see him voting against him on policy.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:07 PM (/tuJf)

Wanna bet? It will happen. I hear what your saying but I don't trust him.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (Fh8wK)

153 Copy and paste fail

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (5aX2M)

154 The FL Ag Commissioner issues and does oversight of CCW permits. The Dem is a gun grabber.

That was the whole point of the Broward fraud
Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2018 02:44 PM (mUa7G)

Time for the Governor and the FL legislature to change the duties of his job. He should be responsible for nothing more than ensuring that the stamped labels on grapefruit are legible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (fDU8w)

155
On what? He's been advocating for a border wall since he was governor
*cough* Romneycare *cough*
He actively campaigned against Trump - during a tiny gap in history when he, Romney, wasn't running for office himself.
NeverTrump = EverHillary

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 04:10 PM (LL1Be)

156
Romney is a fraud, Jackstraw.

For instance, Romney's is all for tax cuts...if they're "deficit neutral."

Romney is for border security...to welcome in all who wish to enter.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:10 PM (b16/K)

157 >>Wanna bet? It will happen. I hear what your saying but I don't trust him.

Yea.

Hey, I didn't trust Trump when he was a liberal the day before he announced for the presidency. Besides, with Democrats owning the House how many bills do you think we are going to see coming through Congress over the next 2 years?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:11 PM (/tuJf)

158 Grump - isthe sky blue?


*peeks out*


Cloudless.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:11 PM (yQpMk)

159 Wanna bet? It will happen. I hear what your saying but I don't trust him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (Fh8wK)

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Romney only cares about Romney. The most advantage for Romney is with the Democrats, so Romney will be with the Democrats. Anyone who trusts him is in for a nasty surprise.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 04:11 PM (5aX2M)

160 Mitt Romney will try to form a bloc with Sasse,
Collins, and Murkowski. If he succeeds he might as well be leading the
Senate, and you'll have an effective Dem majority. Needless to say, I
hope he fails.



Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (5aX2M)


Sasse disagrees with Trump for different reasons than Collins and Murkowski. For the latter two, abortion is often the issue. Sasse is pro-life.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 04:11 PM (tT986)

161 leave not one stone upon another and plow the land with salt.

F the Paleostinians.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (Dagiw)

162

Romney ran for Senate to make certain there'd be an impeachment vote from Utah, either from him or the Democrat he threw the election to.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (b16/K)

163
Romney will side with the Democrats on everything. You'll see.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (b16/K)

164 Romney ran for Senate to make certain there'd be an impeachment vote from Utah, either from him or the Democrat he threw the election to.



Sadly, I cannot just laugh at this theory.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (yQpMk)

165 ...With James Acosta as Moses...

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (RuIsu)

166 When Israel does not utterly destroy the enemy they disobey God. Bad move. Go old testament or surrender.

Posted by: John Doe at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (WX+x0)

167 "Unequivocal"

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (LL1Be)

168 Slaving a battery of 155 Paladins to the excellent Iron Dome radars would have counter battery fire falling on the launch sites in 90 seconds. Warn the civilians that if they hear rockets launching, they better run for their lives.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 03:22 PM (yQpMk)

Problem with that is the paliscum rocketeers don't care. They will fire their rockets by remote control, or with a timer, and will have unassed the area long before the rocket even ignites.

Israel needs to have AWACS planes in the air at all times, with special cameras (maybe AI-operated?) watching for paliscum setting up launchers. Keep watching until the rockets appear at the site, then call in artillery fire or a drone strike, before the rockets are launch-ready. That way, you destroy their ordnance, and kill some of the trained operators.

And if they use human shields? Fuck it, blast 'em anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (fDU8w)

169 - Fighter Pilot McSally
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:27 PM (LL1Be)

She was an A-10 pilot. Technically, that's not a fighter, is it? I appreciate the snark, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (fDU8w)

170
A girl fighter pilot. My ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (b16/K)

171 McSally may not have been the best candidate but what type of person votes for her fucked up opponent? I blame the voters just like in Alabama.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 03:36 PM (2DOZq)

It's my understanding that it was a bitterly-contested primary, and perhaps many of Kelli Ward's supporters just sat on their hands rather than vote strategically for McSally.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:24 PM (fDU8w)

172 Operation Mindcrime - brought to you by the letter "R".
Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 03:44 PM (LL1Be)

Well, that is how it should be handled. No "hate crimes" as such, but hatred as a motive for an actual crime to be an aggravating factor for sentencing does not seem out of line to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (fDU8w)

173 Evidently, nobody called "nnod". Or "nood", for that matter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (fDU8w)

174 163
Romney will side with the Democrats on everything. You'll see.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (b16/K)


I know. That man is absolute scum. My loathing for him knows no bounds.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (sdi6R)

175 Gay Rumors hurt McSally with Ward voters.

Posted by: Jonah at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (HrSJb)

176 173 Evidently, nobody called "nnod". Or "nood", for that matter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (fDU8w)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (kQs4Y)

177 116 Burnt Toast, I hear Trump actually called Schiff "Adam Schitt."
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 03:52 PM (miE9U)

I hear it was Little Adam Schitt, so was funning on Adam Schitt taking offense at being called "little" because even he knows he is a Schitt.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (1g7ch)

178 It is complicated:
Rashida Tlaib has been under fire for her endorsement and donations from the political action committee of J Street: [insert demented laughter]
@:http://tinyurl.com/y9bnzn34

Here he is dancing after her victory: thx Minn..
http://tinyurl.com/y9taa9h7

Posted by: Wontsubmit at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (122Gu)

179 McSalley didn't give up till the GOPe pulled the plug (support) on her.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 18, 2018 05:54 PM (rSHlY)

180 Late to the thread.

Where to send Palis survivors to clear Gaza? Is any country on earth willing to accept them as new citizens? Maybe not Germany. Can't let them stay after you seize Gaza.

The Israeli action is mildly Darwinian. For Palis.

To be effective, Israel needs Egypt. Shooting to kill and wound at fence rallies is also effective over time. Operant conditioning.

One out of the box solution is to make Gaza a nation state. The first attack, declare war. Win, and rule. But what to do with the Pali survivors is still the stopping point.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (hyuyC)

181 The map used at the DM article on global warming referred to Israel as Judea. No Palestinia on the map.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 18, 2018 06:07 PM (rSHlY)

182 One of the goals of terrorist groups around the world is to provoke an overreaction

Short of nukes....There isn't one.
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I have to argue against that.

Nothing would have sent a clearer message to the world, and islam in particular, that US citizens inside our borders are off limits, than had we nuked the two cities in Afghanistan.

They expected us to and we are seen as weak because we failed to.

Posted by: Methos at November 18, 2018 07:01 PM (kOpft)

183 I have to argue against that.

Nothing would
have sent a clearer message to the world, and islam in particular, that
US citizens inside our borders are off limits, than had we nuked the two
cities in Afghanistan.

They expected us to and we are seen as weak because we failed to.


Posted by: Methos at November 18, 2018 07:01 PM (kOpft)

This. We should have hit the ME with nukes until the earth looked like a Life Saver candy.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (9Om/r)

184 No "hate crimes" as such, but hatred as a motive for an actual crime to
be an aggravating factor for sentencing does not seem out of line to me.

What exactly is the difference, AOP?

Murder is murder.

Enhancing the sentence due to divined thoughts and intent is Big Brother - no matter how you look at it.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 08:12 PM (LL1Be)

185 CBD, I know this was supposed to be a somewhat disconsolate article, but I'm ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC over your incrediible use of the word 'titrate'!! Since I work in chemistry and have even done my own titrations in the past, I could barely contain myself when I saw that sentence! You deserve an award for that usage! I haven't been in such raptures over a single word in ages.

(Of course, it's the immediate context that makes it so wonderful - this really is better than dark chocolate!!)

Posted by: Philip at November 18, 2018 08:54 PM (5pZ+4)

186 Hmmm.
I just watched DEATH WISH 3, the crazy over the top installment of the series with an insanely high body count.
Reading the reviews of this at IMDB was almost more fun than watching the movie.

Posted by: Beverly at November 19, 2018 12:18 AM (Jhi8d)

1st Amendment For Me, But Not For Thee...


This reminds me, obliquely, of Anatole France's famous quotation:

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.
When the elites live behind fences and guarded gates, and walk amongst us only when protected by police or private security (armed of course) or a complian judiciary, the laws mean very little to them. Hillary can have her personal Praetorians control the world around her, without respect for the Constitution, or for that matter most other laws.

Normals are at risk every time we express our political opinions, because the full weight of the lawless left will fall upon us, dispatched by the very people whose right to speak is protected by government or those very same thugs masquerading as "anti-fascists."

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1 Ooh

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:35 PM (13CQC)

2
Hey, this could be in the book thread, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:35 PM (13CQC)

3
We should do a bitchy one on Michelle Obama's eight-figure book 'n' swag tour.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36 PM (13CQC)

4
Okay, I have to go eat.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36 PM (13CQC)

5 Do forget about the 30 million that steal our money, destroy our schools, endanger our lives with communicable diseases and drunk driving living totally outside ow laws.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 12:37 PM (JFO2v)

6 Liking Laura's work lately

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 12:38 PM (6VrXf)

7 Top ten!

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 18, 2018 12:38 PM (OUaW7)

8 3
We should do a bitchy one on Michelle Obama's eight-figure book 'n' swag tour.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36 PM (13CQC)

at least we got her out of public housing!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 12:38 PM (JFO2v)

9 hey no farting during match play!

https://deadspin.com/farting-controversy-clouds-grand-slam-of-darts-quarterf-1830512545

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 12:40 PM (JFO2v)

10 Laura should find a judge to declare her 1st amendment rights to interview Hillary unchallenged.
Should be as easy as unicorn hunting.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 12:41 PM (6VrXf)

11 We should do a bitchy one on Michelle Obama's eight-figure book 'n' swag tour.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36 PM (13CQC)

at least we got her out of public housing!!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 12:38 PM (JFO2v)

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An immigrant stole her job.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 18, 2018 12:41 PM (C1NyB)

12 I have decided to just speak my mind. I never initiate political discussions -- it's always the lefties -- but a calm, measured response such as a slap across the face with one's motoring gloves, or a clean slice with the cane-rapier, establishes a dialog. And perhaps I can challenge an outlook, who knows?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 12:41 PM (kQs4Y)

13
Michelle Obama's book sales figures are unbelievable.

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 12:44 PM (hrcfq)

14 Dont go anywhere hear a liberal democrat their a deadly virus and need to be sent away far far away

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at November 18, 2018 12:44 PM (FLiOE)

15 The MBM interprets the first amendment to mean that they have the freedom to lie but we don't have the freedom to tell the truth.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 12:47 PM (+y/Ru)

16 Michelle Obama's book sales figures are unbelievable.

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You can say that again!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 12:47 PM (+y/Ru)

17 For those who haven't heard, there are no Republicans in Congress currently representing Orange County in California. Kim, who initially had the majority of votes in that district immediately following the election, has conceded to Cisneros.

Posted by: junior at November 18, 2018 12:48 PM (XkSVO)

18
Big Mooch's "Swingin' Dick" Book Tour!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 18, 2018 12:50 PM (H991r)

19

Yes, LL should sue Her Heinous for denying her First Amendment rights. Or do those only apply to Little Jimmy Accost-her?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 12:52 PM (HaL55)

20 DOG accused of a hate crime after fouling outside a home

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All I have to say is, "That son of a bitch!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

21
17 For those who haven't heard, there are no Republicans in Congress currently representing Orange County in California. Kim, who initially had the majority of votes in that district immediately following the election, has conceded to Cisneros.
Posted by: junior at November 18, 2018 12:48 PM (XkSVO)


And the moribund CA GOPe challenged not one of the "miracle counts", amirite?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 18, 2018 12:52 PM (H991r)

22 13
Michelle Obama's book sales figures are unbelievable.
Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 12:44 PM (hrcfq)
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Buy the Deplorable Gourmet! We can still catch up!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 12:53 PM (MVjcR)

23 Your speech is violence...

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2018 12:54 PM (GVYd7)

24 17 For those who haven't heard, there are no Republicans in Congress currently representing Orange County in California. Kim, who initially had the majority of votes in that district immediately following the election, has conceded to Cisneros.
Posted by: junior at November 18, 2018 12:48 PM (XkSVO)


Coming soon to a county near you.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 12:55 PM (sdi6R)

25 >>Michelle Obama's book sales figures are unbelievable.


They are solely a way of providing funds for the Obamas. Publishing is just a form of graft.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2018 12:56 PM (GVYd7)

26 >>For those who haven't heard, there are no Republicans in Congress currently representing Orange County in California.


Portability. FTW.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2018 12:57 PM (GVYd7)

27 garrett at November 18, 2018 12:56 PM
I was thinking money laundering.

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 12:57 PM (hrcfq)

28 Kim, who initially had the majority of votes in that district immediately following the election
And suddenly, boom! A whole crap ton of ballots show up and every one was for her Demonrat challenger. Every.Single.One. Curious that.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 12:57 PM (gEvQ8)

29 Can I walk in and start shouting questions to this judge in court?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 18, 2018 12:58 PM (oVJmc)

30 Michelle Obama's book sales figures are unbelievable.

In a just world, that would never happen. So ludicrous and undeserved.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 12:58 PM (Tyii7)

31 Obliquely is an under celebrated word.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 12:59 PM (MVjcR)

32 The more exposure Hillary! gets, the more her horribleness is exposed. I'm o.k. with that.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 12:59 PM (+ZMGe)

33 But there is complete moral equivalence between the modern left and conservatives. Complete.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 01:00 PM (NWiLs)

34 Kim, who initially had the majority of votes in that district immediately following the election. And suddenly, boom! A whole crap ton of ballots show up and every one was for her Demonrat challenger. Every.Single.One. Curious that.

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Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 01:00 PM (+y/Ru)

35 And how many NGO's have bought up scores of the wookies books?

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 01:00 PM (SzQWn)

36 Hm - guess being an Obama Ghostwriter does have certain rewards.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 18, 2018 01:00 PM (Uiz/V)

37 I am SO looking forward to the dem primaries for 2020.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 01:01 PM (MVjcR)

38 Well PDT just branded Adam Schff in a tweet as "little Adam Schitt"' LOL

Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2018 01:01 PM (jm1YL)

39 >>>those very same thugs masquerading

That guy speaking in that video has the greatest voice, and is so calm-like.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:02 PM (+ZMGe)

40 >>>3
We should do a bitchy one on Michelle Obama's eight-figure book 'n' swag tour.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36 PM (13CQC)

Maybe we can just ignore here? I'd vote for that.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:04 PM (+ZMGe)

41 And how many NGO's have bought up scores of the wookies books?
Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 01:00 PM (SzQWn)

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Also, how many did DNC, state and local Dem orgs buy as giveaways to donors?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 01:04 PM (ffYR/)

42
How many people voted for Obama? 60 million or so?
I guess there would be half a million fanatical cult followers who would buy the book.

I quit buying political books somewhere around the end of George W's reign. Though I see a Levin book copyright 2015 on the shelf, half read.

They all are who we thought they were.

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 01:05 PM (hrcfq)

43 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36

Re: last thread
You can by bottles of liquid vitamin E and not have to fool around poking capsules.

Posted by: Farmer at November 18, 2018 01:05 PM (T5tjg)

44 The 5th Amendment protects Leftist reporter press passes and abortion doctors.

It's right there in the Goebbels penumbra, next to the Mengele emanation.

Posted by: Judge George Haolelakachooma - 9th Circuit - Maui District at November 18, 2018 01:09 PM (LL1Be)

45 Why do Democrats even bother claiming a principle like "free speech" to justify tolerance of Acosta? Just admit that they have only one principle - takeover, and by that principle, Acosta is entitled to misbehave at press conferences and has a right to attend nevertheless. Also, Hillary has the right to deprive reporters of their right to speak.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 01:09 PM (/qEW2)

46
Has anyone here seen ads for curiousitystream.com? It's I Fookin Lurve Science videos for a monthly subscription fee.

What a metric shit-ton of effusive self-preening they are. What gets me to yell "Eff off!" every time in the ego stroking phrase that refers to "your brilliant, curious mind".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 18, 2018 01:10 PM (H991r)

47

And how many NGO's have bought up scores of the wookies books?

Umm, all of them?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 01:11 PM (HaL55)

48
47
And how many NGO's have bought up scores of the wookies books?

Umm, all of them?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 01:11 PM (HaL55)


Or else ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 18, 2018 01:12 PM (H991r)

49 Now I'm gonna be That Guy here. Again.

Loomer was ejected from an event, and so was Acosta. So much the same. But the suit wasn't about the ejection, it was about the removal of him from the press pool. The judge didn't rule that someone couldn't be ejected, only that they had to get a procedure to alert them of being removed from the pool beyond a tweet and being told by the Moose Out Front.

So the argument really is more about employment and losing a position rather than speech. Its a spurious argument, but that's the distinction here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2018 01:13 PM (39g3+)

50 17 For those who haven't heard, there are no Republicans in Congress currently representing Orange County in California. Kim, who initially had the majority of votes in that district immediately following the election, has conceded to Cisneros.
Posted by: junior at November 18, 2018 12:48 PM (XkSVO)


Cisneros won by four Buicks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:14 PM (gHCnG)

51 Please! Our Selective Law Enforcement officers have earned our utmost respect and admiration...

Posted by: The Left at November 18, 2018 01:14 PM (NAs56)

52 >>>So the argument really is more about employment

I don't follow the "employment" part of this comparison, in either instance: Acosta was still employed at CNN, and Laura Loomer's employment wasn't an issue.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:15 PM (+ZMGe)

53 there are no Republicans in Congress currently representing Orange County in California.

I predict they will come down like a ton of bricks on Orange County, such that it can never rise again. Full control of elections.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 01:16 PM (NAs56)

54 My world is filled with socialists rich enough to insulate themselves from the predictably disastrous results of the loony policies they advocate for others.


Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 01:16 PM (EZebt)

55 Well PDT just branded Adam Schff in a tweet as "little Adam Schitt"' LOL

Heh. That may very well have originated here at the HQ.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 01:18 PM (Tyii7)

56 Has anyone here seen ads for curiousitystream.com? It's I Fookin Lurve Science videos for a monthly subscription fee.
What a metric shit-ton of effusive self-preening they are. What gets
me to yell "Eff off!" every time in the ego stroking phrase that refers
to "your brilliant, curious mind".
=====

LOL. Gives new meaning to the I Luv Science Sexually theme.

You, my friend, are a person of taste and distinction demonstrated by your purchase of this amazing object/service, and you will impress all of your friends with the fact, fact mind you, that you are a person of taste and distinction.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 01:18 PM (MIKMs)

57 And how many NGO's have bought up scores of the wookies books?

Umm, all of them?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 01:11 PM (HaL55)


Seriously. I could easily imagine a cabal of leftist billionaires - it appears that there is no other type - buying up the books and warehousing them, thereby giving Mooch money (legally) and building some momentum for her politically.

Then later, after generating the requisite publicity, they sell the books off, recouping the money they fronted.

I strongly suspect that that's EXACTLY what they did with Obama's poxy book. Remember when conservatives were talking about Obama eating a dog, and liberal reporters - again, is there any other kind? - were howling about that as a nasty canard? Obviously none of them had read Obama's book, and if THEY couldn't be bothered ...

The same considerations apply a forteriori to Mooch's "book." Who the hell would be interested in reading her spew (or, more accurate, her ghostwriter's spew)? Even those stupid broads on The View can't be bothered, I would venture to guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:20 PM (Ry8mf)

58 She is definitely not a "journalist." Talk to @Jack.

Posted by: Blue Check Mark at November 18, 2018 01:20 PM (EFmfL)

59 So the argument really is more about employment and losing a position rather than speech

This is all stupid.

The White House doesn't pay Accoster, therefore is not his employer. If getting kicked out of the press pool affects his employment that is his and CNN's problem.
Accoster behaved in a threatening manner. He doesn't like Tweets? Fuck him. He's lucky the Secret Service didn't drag his ass into a room for interrogation. Next time the President should have "You're Fired!" painted on a rock and thrown at the uncooperative reporter.

The Judicial Branch does not get to decide who the Executive branch can kick out of the White House.
Overreach. It's the new hotness.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 01:20 PM (LL1Be)

60 You, my friend, are a person of taste and distinction demonstrated by your purchase of this amazing object/service, and you will impress all of your friends with the fact, fact mind you, that you are a person of taste and distinction.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 01:18 PM (MIKMs)

All their sources/research can be found on wiki.

Posted by: BignJames at November 18, 2018 01:20 PM (cxHbL)

61 Farmer

That is what I am rubbing on a recent surgical incision. Liquid Vitamin E. Wait until the suture is really close, or about a month after surgery.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 01:21 PM (hyuyC)

62 56 Has anyone here seen ads for curiousitystream.com? It's I Fookin Lurve Science videos for a monthly subscription fee.
What a metric shit-ton of effusive self-preening they are. What gets
me to yell "Eff off!" every time in the ego stroking phrase that refers
to "your brilliant, curious mind".
=====

LOL. Gives new meaning to the I Luv Science Sexually theme.

You, my friend, are a person of taste and distinction demonstrated by your purchase of this amazing object/service, and you will impress all of your friends with the fact, fact mind you, that you are a person of taste and distinction.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 01:18 PM (MIKMs)


As a scientist, it drives me wild when some liberal pontificates on a scientific issue based on his viewing of a few segments of Nova, or the like. STFU.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:21 PM (Ry8mf)

63 Steve Bannon talks at Oxford

https://youtu.be/8AtOw-xyMo8

Required viewing, although maybe not on a nice Sunday afternoon

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 01:21 PM (rnAwa)

64 These are the reasons we have the 2nd Amendment. While the overbearing elists want to use law enforcement and other armed agencies to push their agendas, many of those enforcers have loved ones and homes they want to return to at the end of the day. There are the FBI agents shot dead at WACO, one believes they knew the risks, but did not plan to be killed.

Posted by: Psycho Chicken at November 18, 2018 01:21 PM (RE8Ho)

65 11 We should do a bitchy one on Michelle Obama's eight-figure book 'n' swag tour.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 18, 2018 12:36 PM (13CQC)

at least we got her out of public housing!!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 12:38 PM (JFO2v)

=========
An immigrant stole her job.
Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 18, 2018 12:41 PM (C1NyB)

=======================

That is brilliant on so many levels! Thanks for that one.

Posted by: Shoeless Guy at November 18, 2018 01:22 PM (p+/iO)

66

OK Hordelings, life beckons. NASCAR Championship race is in a couple of hours and I need Guinness.
Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 01:25 PM (HaL55)

67 How many people voted for Obama? 60 million or so?
I guess there would be half a million fanatical cult followers who would buy the book.


The local library bought half a dozen copies. Integrated over the entire US, that's got to be a substantial number.

But I still bet Soros et al. had a warehouse full of the damned things to propel the book onto the best-seller list, and then later sold them off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:25 PM (xSo9G)

68 Speaking of immigrants mostly of the illegal kind, I'm waiting for an outbreak of typhus, cholera, or dysentery to break out in Tijuana. You just know it's going to happen. And it appears that there is currently a protest going on by the locals who don't want the invaders in their town. Heh.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 01:25 PM (gEvQ8)

69 So if I con someone into hiring me as a White House reporter, the White House is OBLIGATED to give me a hard pass?


Hm.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 18, 2018 01:26 PM (KLtfe)

70 48
47
And how many NGO's have bought up scores of the wookies books?

Umm, all of them?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 01:11 PM (HaL55)

Or else ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 18, 2018 01:12 PM (H991r)

===

Just let the wookiee win!

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 01:26 PM (EZebt)

71 Mooch signing her book which I found in a trash receptacle:

"Dear Mr. BFD - my husband and I are thrilled that we in some small way were able to contribute to the worst eight years of your life!".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 01:26 PM (Tyii7)

72 63 Steve Bannon talks at Oxford

https://youtu.be/8AtOw-xyMo8

Required viewing, although maybe not on a nice Sunday afternoon
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 01:21 PM (rnAwa)


The Oxford Union is notoriously lefty, and always has been. Recall its resolution that it would not fight for King and Country in the run-up to WWII. Adolf certainly appreciated the sentiment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:27 PM (xSo9G)

73 Which cartel runs Tijuana?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 01:29 PM (uBX7f)

74 Which cartel runs Tijuana?

The Donkey Cartel.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at November 18, 2018 01:30 PM (Tyii7)

75 73
Which cartel runs Tijuana?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 01:29 PM (uBX7f)

Just spitballing here, but I'd guess the Sinaloa cartel.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 01:30 PM (gEvQ8)

76 Send the dart gas guy to Mooch's next book signing.

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 01:31 PM (RuIsu)

77 68 Speaking of immigrants mostly of the illegal kind, I'm waiting for an outbreak of typhus, cholera, or dysentery to break out in Tijuana. You just know it's going to happen.
Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 01:25 PM (gEvQ


Definitely. You left out tuberculosis, measles, etc., btw, not to mention a sudden upsurge in crime as the "migrants" redistribute some wealth ... to themselves.

All of which will happen as surely as the sun rose in the east this morning.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:32 PM (1+J19)

78 55 Well PDT just branded Adam Schff in a tweet as "little Adam Schitt"' LOL

Heh. That may very well have originated here at the HQ.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 18, 2018 01:18 PM (Tyii7)


You have to wonder how many lines we've contributed to conservatives.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:33 PM (1+J19)

79 Steve Bannon talks at Oxford

https://youtu.be/8AtOw-xyMo8

Required viewing, although maybe not on a nice Sunday afternoon

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 01:21

Thank you for that. Just started it.

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 01:33 PM (hrcfq)

80 Speaking of immigrants mostly of the illegal kind, I'm waiting for an
outbreak of typhus, cholera, or dysentery to break out in Tijuana. You
just know it's going to happen.


Open sewers that dump into the river and the ocean plus a sudden population increase of immigrants.


What could go wrong?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 18, 2018 01:34 PM (LL1Be)

81 I keep seeing hints of disease outbreaks in schools of ailments not found much anymore.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 01:35 PM (6VrXf)

82 25 >>Michelle Obama's book sales figures are unbelievable.


They are solely a way of providing funds for the Obamas. Publishing is just a form of graft.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2018 12:56 PM (GVYd7)


This.

"Unbelievable" being literally true.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:35 PM (1+J19)

83 Mooch's book sales are probably pumped up by bulk purchases. A long time ago, a guy wrote a book while locked up for 9 months. Everybody in his party had to buy it, and it became a best seller, making the author wealthy.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 01:36 PM (xzqr4)

84 Jim Acosta pooped in a vase at the White House. He did, I saw him do it, and we all should talk about it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 01:36 PM (rnAwa)

85 Definitely. You left out tuberculosis, measles, etc., btw, not to
mention a sudden upsurge in crime as the "migrants" redistribute some
wealth ... to themselves.

Throw in a little Ebola just to make it interesting and fun for the whole family.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 01:37 PM (K22Va)

86 Mooch's book sales are probably pumped up by bulk
purchases. A long time ago, a guy wrote a book while locked up for 9
months. Everybody in his party had to buy it, and it became a best
seller, making the author wealthy.



Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 01:36 PM (xzqr4)

Yeah, if you pay enough money for a ticket to her book tour, you get a "free" book. Pay more and you can get it signed. I'm sure those books aren't coming gratis from the publisher. That's how many thousands of books right there.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 01:39 PM (tT986)

87 Cali is lost and frankly I think forever. A lot is gop types keep urging the conservatives to not flee the state but to stay here and fight and my response is 'why? You guys roll over and never fight for us when there is blatant election fraud. So why the fuck should we stay and fight for you?'

Posted by: IC at November 18, 2018 01:39 PM (4lu7W)

88 All smart-assed comments aside: What are we normals to do about the privileged elite?
Don't lecture me about the gdamned ballot box - Florida? And has anyone listened to the harping from Kamala Harris? Ballot box, really?
Maybe if qualified Constitutional candidates were running with reasonably informed voter base. But that is not our situation.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at November 18, 2018 01:39 PM (AsjQP)

89 81 I keep seeing hints of disease outbreaks in schools of ailments not found much anymore.
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 01:35 PM (6VrXf)


Be of good cheer, as it will hit hardest at the children of liberal soccer moms with duck feathers for brains who refuse to have their kids vaccinated.

Darwin moves in mysterious ways, his wonders to achieve.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:39 PM (VP1E6)

90 >>>38 Well PDT just branded Adam Schff in a tweet as "little Adam Schitt"' LOL
Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2018 01:01 PM (jm1YL)

It will, hopefully, distract from something that needs distracting from.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:40 PM (+ZMGe)

91 But I still bet Soros et al. had a warehouse full of the damned things to propel the book onto the best-seller list, and then later sold them off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:25 PM (xSo9G)


This is a common tactic. There were a few scandals not that long ago about megachurch pastors (like Marc Driscoll and Stephen Furtick) getting various satellite churches and organizations to buy their books in order to get them on the NYT bestseller list.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 01:41 PM (/qEW2)

92 87 Cali is lost and frankly I think forever. A lot is gop types keep urging the conservatives to not flee the state but to stay here and fight and my response is 'why? You guys roll over and never fight for us when there is blatant election fraud. So why the fuck should we stay and fight for you?'
Posted by: IC at November 18, 2018 01:39 PM (4lu7W)


Yep, and more to the point, who do you think the Reds have in mind to pay for all their hare-brained schemes (e.g., socialized medicine even for wetbacks, free tuition, "affordable housing," etc.)?

If you're thinking you and me, you win a prize. They're just itching to gut Prop. 13 and sock it to the bourgeoisie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:42 PM (IMdOQ)

93 stand down orders for thee, but not for me.

Newt just sent a letter to regarding the (fake) investigation into the Awan, and how they failed to do a real investigation. This is the typical "fake investigation" used on sedition/treason/fraud by any of their own. Awan seemed to have access to much of Congress, and looked to be selling that info, and or bribing member of congress, perhaps in cooperation with Pakistan? ... yet our DeepState decided to cover it all up ...


https://twitter.com/newtgingrich

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2018 01:43 PM (Cus5s)

94 83 Mooch's book sales are probably pumped up by bulk purchases. A long time ago, a guy wrote a book while locked up for 9 months. Everybody in his party had to buy it, and it became a best seller, making the author wealthy.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 01:36 PM (xzqr4)


My favorite story is when that a-hole "Tookie" Williams purportedly "wrote" a children's book while on Death Row. The book sold 300 copies. Guess how many lawyers were in the firm defending him?

No prizes for guessing 300.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:45 PM (IMdOQ)

95
All smart-assed comments aside: What are we normals to do about the privileged elite?
---
In the late 1770s, a bunch of American farmers (to be fair there were other trades represented as well) took up arms and made the territory they lived in a no go zone for the servants of the king that trampled their rights.

Note that they did not march/sail all the way back to Britain and try to wrest control of the entire empire (that eventually withered and died on its own). They just said 'We and our lands are no longer subject to you and your decrees.' And defended the proposition with sufficient force to make it stick.

Twice, technically.

Posted by: Methos at November 18, 2018 01:46 PM (kOpft)

96 Even as the hard evidence of forest mismanagement is coming to light, and the fact that the Dems, with their crackpot schemes and kowtowing to the greens,are behind it, Cali will not change. The majority seem to have the attention span of a fruit fly and the memory of a moth.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 01:46 PM (xzqr4)

97 I figured out straight away Awan having access to half the Democrat email and equipment and soft wear theft was going straight to Pakistan

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 01:48 PM (6VrXf)

98 Jim Acosta pooped in a vase at the White House. He did, I saw him do it, and we all should talk about it.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 01:36 PM (rnAwa)


I feel like we're at that point of absurdity. Acosta could literally take a dump on the floor and shout "What are you going to do about it? You cannot deny me my Constitutional rights".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 01:50 PM (/qEW2)

99 96 Even as the hard evidence of forest mismanagement is coming to light, and the fact that the Dems, with their crackpot schemes and kowtowing to the greens,are behind it, Cali will not change. The majority seem to have the attention span of a fruit fly and the memory of a moth.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 01:46 PM (xzqr4)

Fire deaths might shake them up.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:52 PM (+ZMGe)

100 100!

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:52 PM (+ZMGe)

101 "Tookie" Williams purportedly "wrote" a children's
book while on Death Row.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:45 PM (IMdOQ)

Oh hell, he wrote a lot of shit, all of which was praised beyond belief by the criminal-loving media.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 01:53 PM (wYseH)

102 I think Fox News gets their chryon material from the AP. It said that while Trump was in Cal yesterday he was asked if he still denies climate change. It went on to say that he falsely claimed that it was bad forest management. Crap, after all the green sh*t they've passed out on the left coast, the fuel load out there is probably higher than it's ever been. Natural forest fires probably managed the forest better than the greenies have.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 01:53 PM (gEvQ8)

103 Fire deaths might shake them up.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:52 PM (+ZMGe)

Not even. People are expendable.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 01:54 PM (gEvQ8)

104 We fought a war because this aristocracy thing was bogus. And if we don't don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto, we'll be as bogus as them.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 01:54 PM (yQpMk)

105 No prizes for guessing 300.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 01:45 PM


Damn.

Posted by: Leonidas at November 18, 2018 01:55 PM (DMUuz)

106 Natural forest fires probably managed the forest better than the greenies have.

And all the Spotted Owls were burned to death anyway. The end.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 01:56 PM (K22Va)

107 MST3K Turkey Day Marathon being streamed here:

https://www.shoutfactorytvlive.com/

Posted by: IrishEi at November 18, 2018 01:56 PM (NtglE)

108 Trump needs to toss words like "falsifiability" at the CAGW crowd.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 01:57 PM (XXadE)

109 Not even. People are expendable.


Posted by: Old Blue at November 18, 2018 01:54 PM (gEvQ


Eggs. Omlet.

Posted by: Grannymimi at November 18, 2018 01:57 PM (u5LFV)

110 People are expendable.

Of course. It's for the chirruns.

Posted by: every "progressive" at November 18, 2018 02:00 PM (Tyii7)

111
Bannon is a bit of a scatterbrain isn't he. The Oxford people should like that.

I'm not sure how many in the audience are getting all the cultural references. The questions might be interesting.

(You can hear the protesters shouting in the hallway!)

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 18, 2018 02:00 PM (hrcfq)

112 107 MST3K Turkey Day Marathon being streamed here:

https://www.shoutfactorytvlive.com/
Posted by: IrishEi at November 18, 2018 01:56 PM (NtglE)
---
News I can use! I was just wondering about this.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 02:01 PM (kQs4Y)

113 The greens concern for human life can be summed up by the way they place a third rate bait fish over the livelihood of thousands of agricultural workers and farmers.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 02:01 PM (xzqr4)

114 Fire deaths might shake them up.
Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 01:52 PM (+ZMGe)

Moar money needed to study the "Urban/Wildfire Interface", subset of DOI LandFire Program.

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 02:01 PM (uBX7f)

115 Maybe if qualified Constitutional candidates were running with reasonably informed voter base. But that is not our situation.

==

Realize first that knowledge/information is not the issue. Yeah, the MSM lies but the fact is even if they didn't it still wouldn't matter.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at November 18, 2018 02:01 PM (z2W2E)

116 I keep seeing hints of disease outbreaks in schools of ailments not found much anymore.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 01:35 PM


A couple weeks ago I drove past a Phoenixville school. Fire truck out front. When I got home I went to their web site to see what it was about.

A nice little drop down menu to choose what language you want the results displayed in. I'm like WTF? How much does that f_in cost?

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 02:02 PM (e7O7B)

117 108 Trump needs to toss words like "falsifiability" at the CAGW crowd.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 01:57 PM (XXadE)


This.

Note the CAGW crowd has never, not once, produced a falsifiable prediction. The closest they come is to say that their models WOULD have predicted the past climate. Which, of course, is risible, since their models were parameterized from the past climate. All they have done is confirm that they did the parameterization correctly to reproduce the data from which the parameterization originated.

So ... no points.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 02:05 PM (Ry8mf)

118 110 People are expendable.

Of course. It's for the chirruns.
Posted by: every "progressive" at November 18, 2018 02:00 PM (Tyii7)


Just like abortion. It's for the children!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 02:06 PM (Ry8mf)

119 This is an ad for One America News vs. CNN. It's funny and short:


https://tinyurl.com/ycdncpkz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 02:07 PM (AllCR)

120 Has Nelson conceded in Florida?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 02:08 PM (yQpMk)

121 Michael Obama's book sales can be explained away as people buying them as souvenirs. No one will actually read it--unless it's their job to do so.

Posted by: Shep! at November 18, 2018 02:08 PM (NFEMn)

122 I think actual people probably are buying Michelle's book. There are a great many rich liberal women who feel a bit of guilt over their privilege plus need to fit in with peers who will *buy* the book. Many will flip to the hot topic page or randomly flip to some section so that they can coo about something w/o having to actually read a whole book that is not a bodice ripper.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 02:08 PM (pHzbJ)

123 because you Cali' residents failed to stop global warming (breathing too much) ... you will each be issued either some Delta Smelt, a Spotted Owl, Armagosa vole, or a big eared bat ... their care is your responsibility ... minimum one year sentencing for the non-cooperative and/or dead endangered animals.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2018 02:08 PM (Cus5s)

124 Am I supposed to watch Bannon or MST3K? Both is a tad intense.

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2018 02:10 PM (RuIsu)

125 MST3K, klaftern. This is a day of rest.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 02:10 PM (kQs4Y)

126 I'm very pleased to share with the discerning membership of AoSHQ our 2018 Holiday Gift Guide:

https://goop.com/holiday-gift-guide/

Posted by: Gwenyth P., Lifestyle Advisor at November 18, 2018 02:13 PM (DMUuz)

127 think actual people probably are buying Michelle's book. There are a great many rich liberal women who feel a bit of guilt over their privilege plus need to fit in with peers who will *buy* the book. Many will flip to the hot topic page or randomly flip to some section so that they can coo about something w/o having to actually read a whole book that is not a bodice ripper.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 02:08 PM (pHzbJ)

It's a souvenir, a momento---something to place of a coffee table or shelf to virtue-signal....

Posted by: Shep! at November 18, 2018 02:13 PM (NFEMn)

128 " Note the CAGW crowd has never, not once, produced a
falsifiable prediction. The closest they come is to say that their
models WOULD have predicted the past climate. Which, of course, is
risible, since their models were parameterized from the past climate.
All they have done is confirm that they did the parameterization
correctly to reproduce the data from which the parameterization
originated.



So ... no points.





Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2018 02:05 PM (Ry8mf)"
They do it all the time, the problem is that the media retcons it into oblivion. Their day of reckoning will come; what is up in the air is whether it's before, during, or after the Great Unpleasantness

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 18, 2018 02:13 PM (67XdO)

129 Off Shep! sock.....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 18, 2018 02:14 PM (NFEMn)

130 Weird how Il Duce Cuomo made the announcement that New Yorkers will pay billions of Amazons taxes after the election- huh?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:16 PM (SS4vH)

131 Weird how Il Duce Cuomo made the announcement that New Yorkers will pay billions of Amazons taxes after the election- huh?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:16 PM (SS4vH)

--------------

Seems to me that he would've been elected no matter what.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 02:17 PM (ffYR/)

132 Gwynnie has a global private jet expedition package for $126,888.00.

Also, sequined Hammer pants for $425.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 02:17 PM (kQs4Y)

133 You buy the book, put a bookmark in it about halfway (something like a coexist or rainbow flag bookmark), and lay it on the table at Starbucks, all while looking smug and satisfied, even as a homeless guy is mainlining heroin at the next table.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 18, 2018 02:18 PM (xzqr4)

134 130 Weird how Il Duce Cuomo made the announcement that New Yorkers will pay billions of Amazons taxes after the election- huh?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:16 PM (SS4vH)


Sucks to be them.

HA-Ha!

-Nelson Muntz

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 02:19 PM (sdi6R)

135 Cuomo estimated about 1-1.2 million Ban rifles existed before he passed his unconstitutional Second Amendment fiat. After it was passed, less than 50,000 were registered.

What do you call it when you pass legislation and almost everyone ignores it?

Expect more of this as left wing legislators pass illegal diktats.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:20 PM (SS4vH)

136 The punctuation on "anti-fascists" should be: "anti"-fascists.

Posted by: DM at November 18, 2018 02:21 PM (w5zcK)

137 'Gwynnie has a global private jet expedition package for $126,888.00. Also, sequined Hammer pants for $425.'

For that price it should include the pants.

Posted by: freakde at November 18, 2018 02:21 PM (UdKB7)

138 "Seems to me that he would've been elected no matter what.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 02:17 PM (ffYR/)"

Maybe. But since the announcement a lot of people who actually pay taxes are getting suspicious. But hey, too bad.

Keep voting like it's some kind of team sport whose outcome doesn't impact you.

The government of New York has almost ceased doing what it is meant to be doing, and has started doing everything it should not.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:23 PM (SS4vH)

139
What do you call it when you pass legislation and almost everyone ignores it?

Expect more of this as left wing legislators pass illegal diktats.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:20 PM


I've seen it described as 'Irish Democracy'.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 02:23 PM (e7O7B)

140 Note the CAGW crowd has never, not once, produced a

falsifiable prediction.


Yes they have. They predict future temperature trends. Not only falsifiable but false. What more could you ask?


Posted by: Off the reservation at November 18, 2018 02:25 PM (vWMNq)

141 130 Weird how Il Duce Cuomo made the announcement that New Yorkers will pay billions of Amazons taxes after the election- huh?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:16 PM (SS4vH)

Sucks to be them.
--------------------------------------------------------------

They deserve it. New Yorkers view themselves as cosmopolitan, worldly and open-minded when in reality NYC is a small-minded, one-party provincial town....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 18, 2018 02:27 PM (NFEMn)

142
James Scott:

One need not have an actual conspiracy to achieve the practical effects of a conspiracy. More regimes have been brought, piecemeal, to their knees by what was once called ''Irish Democracy,'' the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal, and truculence of millions of ordinary people, than by revolutionary vanguards or rioting mobs.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 02:28 PM (e7O7B)

143 Weird how Il Duce Cuomo made the announcement that New Yorkers will pay billions of Amazons taxes after the election- huh?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:16 PM (SS4vH)

--------------

Seems to me that he would've been elected no matter what.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 02:17 PM (ffYR/)

He could have gunned down his opponent in Times Square and he would have been elected.

Cuomo is the biggest douche of all and it would give me untold pleasure to see him get taken down for the corrupt POS he is.....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 18, 2018 02:29 PM (NFEMn)

144 Nood.

Posted by: dartist at November 18, 2018 02:29 PM (K22Va)

145 James Scott:

One need not have an actual conspiracy to achieve the practical effects of a conspiracy. More regimes have been brought, piecemeal, to their knees by what was once called ''Irish Democracy,'' the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal, and truculence of millions of ordinary people, than by revolutionary vanguards or rioting mobs.
Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 02:28 PM (e7O7B)

In many ways, this is what's being done to Trump.
No matter what he does some judge somewhere will side against him.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 18, 2018 02:31 PM (NFEMn)

146 Stacey 'big fat and round' Abrams tried the cheating route and when that failed she is now playing the role of victimized woman of color at the hands of white supremacist task master Kemp who used a good old boy network of racist corruption to deny her victory 'for the children and minorities world wide'. This pathetic slob is a perfect example of what an Obama/Hillary child would be.

Posted by: Tentotwo at November 18, 2018 02:32 PM (yhf6w)

147 re 135: Ayn Rand explained this in Atlas Shrugged. The totalitarians know that most people will ignore many of the laws; but having the laws on the books gives them a ready club to beat anyone who makes waves to keep the masses behaving like good sheep.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 18, 2018 02:34 PM (pHzbJ)

148 The challenge presented (especially) by a compliant judiciary is the most pernicious danger, including most egregiously a DOJ that refuse to prosecute or even sometimes to investigate obvious crimes.

America is eroding away as politicians get wealthy in office and then construct a judicial system that doesn't contest their plundering. Is humankind naturally suited for feudalism?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, AntiDemFa (Anti-Demofascist) at November 18, 2018 02:35 PM (Z216Q)

149 135
What do you call it when you pass legislation and almost everyone ignores it?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:20 PM (SS4vH)


Civil war?

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 02:38 PM (sdi6R)

150 Nood

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 18, 2018 02:38 PM (KCxuz)

151 What do you call it when you pass legislation and almost everyone ignores it?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:20 PM (SS4vH)

Civil war?
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 02:38 PM (sdi6R)

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Said upthread. Irish Democracy.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 02:40 PM (ffYR/)

152 Expect more of this as left wing legislators pass illegal diktats.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2018 02:20 PM (SS4vH)

And this is why I am not hair on fire screaming depressed about the future of our country. Most people will simply ignore these stupid dictators.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 18, 2018 02:57 PM (myjNJ)

153
What's going to happen in this country when The Big Chinese Economic Crash Finally Happens?

Opportunities to make money in the US market, or just a bunch of shit and disaster worldwide?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (ZwF/t)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 11-18-2018

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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, and everybody who's holding your beer. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these (mildly NSFW) pants, a woefully misguided attempt at sexual liberation, but this was the 70s and everyone was messed up on drugs and also Eldridge Cleaver was a nut case even back then (h/t Hank Curmudgeon).


Pic Note

This pic has been on my hard drive for over a year and I forget where I got it from. Is it a still from some movie or TV show? I had to lighten it up a bit because the original is so dark, it's kind of hard to see. At least for my old eyes it is.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

A COCKMADAW is a pompous, conceited little man.

PUSSIVANTING is making a great fuss over nothing; making an ineffectual commotion.

Usage: And when you cross a cockmadaw with a pussivanter, you get Michael "Slappy" Avenatti.




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I remember some years ago when we went on vacation back east to visit Mrs. Muse's family. We spent one day at the home of her younger sister. It was a nice day, so we all were outside at the pool. The conversation turned into a discussion of family issues and memories and reminiscences that I knew nothing about. Bored, I went back into the house, looking for something to do. I thought, maybe I could grab something to read, to pass the time. So I went into the living room, but there wasn't a bookcase, nor any books lying on any of the couches. Then I went into the family room. No books. But there was a big-screen TV with a game console, in fact, there was a TV in almost every room of the house, but no books. Not even an old Reader's Digest in the bathroom. A couple of the TVs were on and blaring sound, even though we had all gone outside, so I switched them off. It's one of my pet peeves. Why is the TV on if no one is watching? Anyway, I was disappointed that I couldn't find anything to read, so I just gave up and went back outside. I just couldn't imagine a house without books. And even harder not to get all snooty about it.


Moron Recommendations

242 I've been reading Lumen by Ben Pastor (a pseudonym of Maria Verbena Volpi). Our hero, Martin Bora, is a young captain in German army intelligence in Poland during the very early days of WWII. He's not so much anti-Nazi as he is apathetic, much as he is not so much Catholic as apathetic. He's seen some bad stuff during the invasion but but this is, after all, war and will soon be over. The true depravity of Nazism has not revealed itself and Bora hopes to simply be left alone while he performs the honorable profession of an officer in the military.

All is well and good until a Polish abbess thought to be a saint who has stigmata, performs miracles, and prophesizes the future is murdered in her convent. Bora is the natural choice to investigate being Catholic and multilingual. He doesn't think much of her prophecies given that she had said that in five years, in 1944, Warsaw will be in flames when clearly the war will be long over by then. Still, she did prophesize that conquerors bearing flags with crosses would come from the west and be led by Round City (Rundstedt) and Ram (Bock) so she's not always wrong. She had prophesied that she would be killed through her name which may refer to the Latin motto she was obsessed with, Lumen Christi Adiuva Nos (Light of Christ, Succor Us). Absent any other leads, Bora follows this prophecy...

I'm quite enjoying this book but I'm a sucker for misunderstood prophecies like those of the witches in Macbeth. I hope the ending lives up to my expectations. This is a well written book filled with realistic characters set in an extraordinary time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)

You can get Lumen (Martin Bora Book 1) on Kindle for $6.67. Also available in hardcover and paperback.

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56 Per moron recommendation, I read Jon Ronson's book "The Psychopath Test". It delves into the world of psychiatry and mental health. Lot of scary stuff in it that will have you shaking your head in disbelief, such as: in England, if they think you are crazy but can be cured, they can hold you in a psych facility/prison until someone signs off on you being sane enough to return to society, but if you are deemed un-curable, then you serve time for whatever crime you commit and then are released back out into the public.

Just started Tucker Carlson's "Ship of Fools". I'm about half way through it. He really reams everyone's favorite cruise director, Bill Kristol.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 11, 2018 09:28 AM (p0nVR)

The Amazon blurb for The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry describes it as

...a fascinating journey through the minds of madness. Jon Ronson's exploration of a potential hoax being played on the world's top neurologists takes him, unexpectedly, into the heart of the madness industry. An influential psychologist who is convinced that many important CEOs and politicians are, in fact, psychopaths teaches Ronson how to spot these high-flying individuals by looking out for little telltale verbal and nonverbal clues. And so Ronson, armed with his new psychopath-spotting abilities, enters the corridors of power. He spends time with a death-squad leader institutionalized for mortgage fraud in Coxsackie, New York; a legendary CEO whose psychopathy has been speculated about in the press; and a patient in an asylum for the criminally insane who insists he's sane and certainly not a psychopath.

The power of indefinite incarceration Darth Randall mentions that the British Government gives to its psychiatric institutions is not something that happened recently. C.S. Lewis was complaining about it over 50 years ago. He argued such an end-run around the standard legal system was inherently unjust and gave too much power to ethically dubious doctors and scientists. In fact, one of the subplots in his novel That Hideous Strength concerned the small band of good guys springing from prison the husband of one of its members who had served his sentence, but then had been falsely declared mentally deficient so that he could be used for psychiatric experimentation.

Ship of Fools: How a Selfish Ruling Class Is Bringing America to the Brink of Revolution has some hilarious one-star reviews (like the "independent" who complains about the Koch Bros.) so I'm thinking it's good red meat for conservatives:

The host of Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson Tonight offers a blistering critique of the new American ruling class, the elites of both parties, who have taken over the ship of state, leaving the rest of us, the citizen-passengers, to wonder: How do we put the country back on course?

Probably won't convince anyone who isn't already, but I'm thinking it'll be a fun read.


Another Controversial Book

And by "controversial", I mean offensive to the 21st century kultursmog of feminism, progressivism, and marxism. It wouldn't have been controversial 50 (or maybe even 30), years ago but it's controversial now because girl power.

The book is Being There: Why Prioritizing Motherhood in the First Three Years Matter by Erica Komisar.

What did Komisar claim in this seemingly innocuous book that has so traumatized our cultural elites?

That “mothers are biologically necessary for babies.”

She also claimed that a mother provides different benefits to a newborn child than a father, and that the absence of mothers can lead to developmental problems for the child later in life.

Komisar came to these conclusions after treating families for three decades, first as a clinical social worker and then an analyst.

In her practice she dealt with children with psychological and emotional problems:

“What I was seeing was an increase in children being diagnosed with ADHD and an increase in aggression in children, particularly in little boys, and an increase in depression in little girls. More youngsters were also being diagnosed with ‘social disorders’ whose symptoms resembled those of autism—‘having difficulty relating to other children, having difficulty with empathy.’”

She noticed that a common factor in all of these cases was absence of a mother on a daily basis in these children's lives. This WrongThink™ got Komisar's book

...welcomed on Christian radio and Fox & Friends, but shunned by NPR, and covered coldly by Good Morning America, whose interviewer (according to Komisar) told her before going on air, “I don’t believe in the premise of your book at all. I don't like your book.”

I would have liked to have seen that GMA segment. The interviewer probably sat there with her face all pinched wrinkled up like someone was holding a dog end under her nose.


Books By Morons

Longtime lurker River Cat writes:

I've been reading Ace's blog regularly for more than ten years now (just as a lurker), and since you've been noting books by morons, I thought I'd contact you and see if this moron could get a mention. Earlier this year I started a company called Little White Cabin (in Alabama) to publish books and music (my own at first, then when I get some publishing experience, other writers). My first book is a novel called The Book of Cain, available on Amazon in paperback and Kindle.

RC describes his debut novel as a coming-of-age story:

Richard Tyler is a “bad boy.” Seventeen, going on thirty-five. A dangerous predator with extraordinary fighting skills and a record of extreme violence. In a last-ditch effort to keep him out of prison, Doctor Lillian Last is brought in to do what no one else has accomplished. She must peel back the scales and scar tissue of his mysterious past to discover some redemptive goodness under the hard shell of the boy who calls himself “Cain.” It would take a miracle to find the truth. And when that miracle comes, the truth is an earthquake that shakes their world into a new and awesome form.

He's got another one coming out called The Relic: A Christmas Sea Story, which also sounds interesting:

Chickamauga Antietam Charles, otherwise known as Chick, is an old man living in the Safe Haven homeless shelter. Lame and destitute, his only valuables are cached away in a secret pocket of his ancient pea coat. It is Christmas. He awakes to find he has been given a present by a stranger who passed through in the wee hours of the morning when all were asleep, save for one little girl who insists it was Santa. The gift is a lottery ticket. And when it hits, the others want him to share the wealth, but he has only one goal, and it obsesses him to his very marrow. He must go to Spain. To retrieve what was taken from him so many years ago—a theft that made him into the wreck he has been ever since. But to do it he must relive the sea story that started it all.

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Moron lurker Max, another escaped oaf, has asked me to mention his thriller, The Gods Who Walk Among Us:

Adam Azoulay scrapes out a meagre existence as a paparazzo in New York. One night he shoots video of an African president-for-life spending half his country’s GNP on jewelry for his mistress. The next day a non-profit charity run by a rich kid hires him to track down a reclusive human-rights icon who might’ve been in the video. When Adam discovers the icon has an ugly past, he learns that the world of human rights is one of secrets and even murder. The deeper he gets the more he must be stopped.

This novel is available as an ebook on Amazon and is on sale for $0.99 for the month of November.

Heh. On the book's Amazon page, Max says this about himself:

I am not a member of the paparazzi, but the main character in my book is. He's also a NYC lawyer, which I am too.

Walking around the streets of Manhattan, I've had over one hundred celebrity sightings: actors, musicians, even political figures. On a few occasions I may have unavoidably made eye contact, and the look of horror on their faces convinced me that, if worse ever came to worse, I might have a future as a paparazzo. This novel is a chronicle of that imaginary experience.

A couple of the Amazon reviews say this novel really works well as a satire of New York City and its upper-crust glitterati. Sort of like Bonfire of the Vanities meets The Big Sleep.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 08:58 AM (6VrXf)

2 It's here!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 08:58 AM (kQs4Y)

3 Well done Skip. I saw the time/space continuum in flux and knew OM was posting the Book Thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 08:59 AM (kQs4Y)

4 Good morning my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 08:59 AM (758Rh)

5 Book Thread and Sunday Baroque on the radio,
on a cold Arizona morning.

Times have been worse...

Posted by: retropox at November 18, 2018 09:01 AM (rgquC)

6 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 09:02 AM (JFO2v)

7 Wow book thread sneaked in on me. What am I re-reading ? Corps series by WEB Griffin.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 18, 2018 09:03 AM (mpXpK)

8 'I just couldn't imagine a house without books.'

If you came to my house I'd have to move some books for you to be able to sit down. You are not coming over wearing those pants though.

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 09:03 AM (UdKB7)

9 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 08:58 AM (6VrXf)

How do you do that? Your success rate is phenomenal!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 18, 2018 09:04 AM (f3oO4)

10 It’s carbon-dated, but I’m enjoying the old-fashioned can-do pulpiness of Contraband Rocket (1955) by Lee Correy (real name: G. Harry Stine). It feels very free-wheeling, all-American and Heinleinian, and sure enough he and his wife were friends of the Heinleins. Several of Heinlein's books are dedicated one or both of them, most particularly Have Spacesuit – Will Travel. He had free-market Libertarian ideas about space colonization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Harry_Stine

He shows the bureaucracy our ragtag team of space nuts has to cut through to make their dream of a privately owned ship a reality. In this imagined future, the United Nations has its nose in everything, and there is a lot of happiness engineering to keep the populace content and complacent. The very notion of space obsession by amateurs is so aspie that professional headshrinkers could swoop in and reprogram them at any moment.

How pulpy is my book? The pages are falling out as I read it, and the spine is crumbling.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:04 AM (kQs4Y)

11 Wait. How in the hell did you get a picture of my library? I never submitted one.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 09:04 AM (sdi6R)

12 Halfway through History of Friedrich II of Prussia, Volume 21


Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 09:05 AM (6VrXf)

13
The book is Being There: Why Prioritizing Motherhood in the First Three Years Matter by Erica Komisar.

Everyone understands the concept of 'dog years'. Everyone understands that infant pups shouldn't be separated from their mothers before X number of months.

Anyone wanna do the math for humans? I'd imagine it's within months of three years.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 09:05 AM (e7O7B)

14 Re-read Norman Maclean's 'Young Men and Fire'. Last August driving out west there was so much smoke due to forest fires from Canada to California that at times it was like being in fog. It got me thinking about his book.

August 4, 1949 lightning started a fire a wee bit north of Helena, Montana at Mann Gulch in the Gates of the Mountains Wilderness area. August 5 the US Forest Service dropped 15 Smokejumpers to fight it. 2 hrs after landing 10 Smokejumpers and a forest ranger (a former Smokejumper who was already on the ground) were dead. 2 more Smokejumpers would die the next day from their burns.

The Mann Gulch fire would change the way the Forest Service and Fire Sciences would fight forest fires, but that change was slow. His book is at times gut wrenching, but a very good read.

Virtual Mann Gulch field trip.
http://formontana.net/gulch.html

Some head music.

Mediaeval Baebes - Scarborough Fayre
https://youtu.be/2lTDDf9NoLg

Iggy Pop - The Passenger
https://youtu.be/KMB8B2rFLfA

The Black Ryder - Outside
https://youtu.be/CSa4QLrLd7s

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at November 18, 2018 09:06 AM (vJVIn)

15 Had a note from Voltaire copied from book and Pixy stopped me.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 09:06 AM (6VrXf)

16 Good morning, Cockmadaws!

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:06 AM (sYLo5)

17 I can't imagine living in a home without books. I'm practically living in a home made of books.

Are there kids living there? Without books?! Call CPS.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:07 AM (kQs4Y)

18 Currently reading 'Dreadful Diseases and Terrible Treatments: The Story of Medicine Through the Ages' by Jonathan J. Moore.

This book appeals to my morbid sense of curiosity about history that is seldom written about, nor discussed with polite company, but makes history fun. It's chock full of bizarre cures and treatments. Poop and pee from humans and animals seems to have been quite popular for a lot of conditions, such as hair loss, keeping a youthful appearance, and for use in cosmetics.

False teeth often weren't false but real. After the 1815 Battle of Waterloo so many teeth were taken from the dead it kept the industry in business for decades. These would later be called 'Waterloo Teeth'. Grave robbers, called resurrectionists, and poor street urchins were also a source. The teeth might be used in dentures, or jammed in the hole from a newly pulled tooth which often caused nasty infections and transmitted diseases such as syphilis. Even our Civil War dead had teeth taken.

Doctors/Surgeons/Barbers were often a main cause of death from their lack of cleaning themselves and instruments after procedures. The early 19th century obstetrician Charles Meigs once said; 'Doctors are gentlemen and a gentleman's hands are clean.' Meigs and his peers did a lot of good for medicine, but many would die due to their arrogant ignorance.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at November 18, 2018 09:08 AM (vJVIn)

19 Corps series by WEB Griffin.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 18, 2018 09:03 AM (mpXpK)


WEB Griffin writes the ultra formulaic set of series, yet I have hard copy of almost all of them and he is one of the few authors I have re-read, sometimes more than once.
I read a magazine interview with him years ago (have no idea what mag or when), and he sounded like a great guy to have a beer with!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 18, 2018 09:08 AM (f3oO4)

20 16 Good morning, Cockmadaws!
Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:06 AM (sYLo5)

Take a break from yer pussivanting and pull up a chair.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:08 AM (kQs4Y)

21 Prager wonders why there are no Leftist controversy writers, only conservative writers have controversial opinions.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 09:08 AM (6VrXf)

22 C.S. Lewis was complaining about it over 50 years ago. He argued such an end-run around the standard legal system was inherently unjust

I had a British philosophy professor, a WWII vet, who was generally leftish (but not closed minded). But when he got on this subject, he sounded EXACTLY like Lewis.

Lewis, BTW, wrote T S Eliot urging him to write on this, too. I don't know if anything came of it. The two weren't friendly until late in life.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 18, 2018 09:09 AM (VaN/j)

23 This pic has been on my hard drive for over a year and I forget where I got it from.

It's really weird.

Posted by: m at November 18, 2018 09:09 AM (vcxAT)

24 Good morning, all!
Grateful for my Kindle this week, as I had to burn an entire day on jury duty, and much of another getting prescriptions renewed! So - sitting in jury room/waiting rooms, with the Kindle. I went through most of Roy Griffis' Lonesome George series (say - when is the next volume in the series due out?) which is powerful and depressing all at once, as an alternative history. Ironic that Alec Baldwin is a heroic character...
Also, when at home, working my way through a very hagiographic bio of Mary Ann Bickerdyke, who served throughout the Civil War as a nurse and hospital administrator. It seems that although the US Army had doctors, orderlies and hospitals sufficient to serve the tiny pre-war military establishment, such was insufficient for the hugely-expanded Union Army, and the vast number of casualties ... and so civilian bodies and individuals like the Sanitary Commission, and Mrs. Bickerdyke stepped in - pretty heroically, it appears. (All this is research in service to my next historical novel...)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 18, 2018 09:10 AM (xnmPy)

25 I'm reading "When Slappy Met Sloppy" by Ike Ellison and Kato Acosta.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 18, 2018 09:12 AM (Ndje9)

26 Thanks, OM, for the mention. Much appreciated.
So, as to the words of the day: would "pussicock" be the appropriate portmanteau for Mr. Avenatti?
Also, I'm reading 1984 and as I go I find myself comparing Big Brother and his Ingsoc Holding Company to the current Big TransBrother and xer Social Justice League in terms of language use/destruction and fear-mongering. Any of y'all drawn those comparisons? There seem to be some interesting similarities and differences.

Posted by: River Cat at November 18, 2018 09:16 AM (P34JQ)

27 That pic up top - we don't have quite that many books, but it does well display our system of organization of them.

Milady took it upon herself to clean and rearrange the bookshelves, including her kitchen bookshelves. Days of work, lots of dust, lots of stacks on tables while the work went on.

Finally done, she said, I think I've handled every book in the house! Then she remembered the three cardboard boxes, filled with books....

Posted by: mindful webworker - judging by the covers at November 18, 2018 09:17 AM (RmsK9)

28 19
Corps series by WEB Griffin.



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 18, 2018 09:03 AM (mpXpK)



WEB Griffin writes the ultra formulaic set of series, yet I have
hard copy of almost all of them and he is one of the few authors I have
re-read, sometimes more than once.

I read a magazine interview with him years ago (have no idea what
mag or when), and he sounded like a great guy to have a beer with!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 18, 2018 09:08 AM (f3oO4)

I have almost all of his but I stopped buying them then he he moved into the SA spy stuff. I even have his Phylly cop stuff.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 18, 2018 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

29 I love that top picture. The quantity seems sufficient but it is a bit neater than my book cave would be.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 09:19 AM (758Rh)

30 The trouble with lifelong book collecting is that eventually they stack up the way they do in the picture. Between the two of us, we more and more often can't find what we're looking for. This is compounded by my ever decreasing ability to move them around.

I'll want to read something, and can't find it. Months later, it surfaces. How does that happen? Are there really book tides in one's library?

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 18, 2018 09:19 AM (VaN/j)

31 Downloaded two Moronworks (Luna City 1 and A Place Called Hope) and one Shelby Foote Civil War this week. Alas, have been pussigallivanting this week.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:20 AM (sYLo5)

32 'Any of y'all drawn those comparisons?'

With "1984"? Naaah.

Posted by: Guy without a clue at November 18, 2018 09:20 AM (UdKB7)

33 29 I love that top picture. The quantity seems sufficient but it is a bit neater than my book cave would be.
Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 09:19 AM (758Rh)


Needs more dust.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 09:21 AM (sdi6R)

34 That appears to be a book dungeon. You can see light from a tiny window hole. That one guy has wised up and is using books to keep warm.

Posted by: freakd at November 18, 2018 09:23 AM (UdKB7)

35 Finished Tucker Carlson's "Ship of Fools". Definitely worth a read. His take downs of Bill Kristol and Ta-Nehisi Coates brought a smile to my face.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 18, 2018 09:23 AM (p0nVR)

36 Big Brother got charge of Amazon, Google, PayPal, and MasterCard.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 09:24 AM (1siNL)

37 Joes dick
https://tinyurl.com/yb7rfcpq

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 09:26 AM (JFO2v)

38 The trouble with lifelong book collecting is that eventually they stack up the way they do in the picture. Between the two of us, we more and more often can't find what we're looking for. This is compounded by my ever decreasing ability to move them around.

I'll want to read something, and can't find it. Months later, it surfaces. How does that happen? Are there really book tides in one's library?
Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 18, 2018 09:19 AM (VaN/j)


Posted here before, but relevant:

http://wondermark.com/442

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 09:27 AM (t+qrx)

39 According to Wikipedia, Cleaver died a member of the LDS Church and a conservative of sorts. Seems like an interesting guy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, AntiDemFa (Anti-Demofascist) at November 18, 2018 09:29 AM (Z216Q)

40 I read The Seven and 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle by Stuart Turton this week. This may be the most convoluted book I have ever read. The author describes this work as a combination of time travel, Agatha Christie and Quantum Leap. If he had thrown in Groundhog Day and Downton Abbey it would be a pretty good description. The narrator comes to himself (or perhaps to somebody else) in the rain in a woods not knowing who he is, where he is, or why he's there. He immediately becomes the earwitness to a murder and seeks to aid the victim and apprehend the killer but the fact that he is wounded and cowardly prevents that. In the first few chapters he learns that he is at a huge but decaying English estate of a decaying aristocratic family who have invited fifty or so of their disreputable guests to a masquerade party on the nineteenth anniversary of the murder of their seven year old son on the night of a ball at the estate with many of the same guests. Further, he learns that he will inhabit the bodies of eight of the guests and servants, one each day for eight days (except they're really all the same day, the day of the murder) and that he is there to solve the murder. (No, not that murder and no, not that murder either, you see, well, it's complicated.) If he fails he will be doomed to repeat the sequence until he succeeds. He's probably already been there a few decades (or at least he would have been if they weren't all the same day).

Now, you may be wondering, who's the bad guy? It's quite simple: all of them. Nobody is who he seems and nothing is as it seems. That's why this is so convoluted. The reader sees many incidents numerous times from different perspectives and with different information and that is confounded by the fact that many witnesses are mistaken or lying.

I'm sure this is not everybody's cup of tea but I loved it. It was one of those books I couldn't put down because I wanted to see what would happen next. And there are plenty of surprises. I love time paradoxes and mysteries so this was right up my alley.

Incidentally, one of the ways I judge a book or movie is by how skillfully the exposition is handled. That is because expositions are often artificial and boring. Here the author begins with an invitation to the masquerade identifying many of the characters and the situation. I'd never seen that before.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 09:30 AM (+y/Ru)

41 32
'Any of y'all drawn those comparisons?'


With "1984"? Naaah.Posted by: Guy without a clue at November 18, 2018 09:20 AM (UdKB7)


The similarities are easy. One of the interesting differences has to do with the whole group-identity, intersectional, diversocratic shame culture that Orwell didn't envision. Or how academia became the kettle where the whole witch's brew is cooked.

Posted by: River Cat at November 18, 2018 09:30 AM (P34JQ)

42 Good Morning Book Thread!

This week, I read Matthew Bracken's Enemies Foreign and Domestic - a great action-adventure thriller about a tyrannical government's attempt to outlaw guns and the inevitabl;e violent reaction to their over reach. The story is very well done, but ended on a bleak note that discouraged me from reading the rest of the series. Too much like real life!

I also read Declan Finn's amazing Hell Spawn (Saint Tommy, NYPD Book 1). Declan has a great formula going here: a combination of an action-packed police procedural with a supernatural thriller featuring a detective who is a literal saint - able to smell evil and invoke divinely inspired powers to triumph over a demon-possessed villain. I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at November 18, 2018 09:30 AM (1pQvR)

43 Greetings fellow book-lovers!

This week I finished David Horowitz's excellent "Radical Son."

I've been reading him for years in a roundabout way and I was in college when his Heterodoxy paper appeared on the campus news stands. It was a bracing breath of fresh air.

I know other Morons have read it and offered their insights, but one thing I think is critical to emphasize is that everything we are seeing about the left going nuts was known to Horowitz and pointed out in 1997 when he published the book. It's all in there, even the recent Never Trump meltdown.

Horowitz doesn't flinch from self-examination or from looking at the psychology of his fellow Jews, most of whom were entirely secular. To them, politics became their religion, whether on the left or right. That meant that every struggle was existential and therefore beyond normal rational thought.

The passages where he describes questioning the left and people he thought were incisive, bright, fearless thinkers suddenly shut down and refuse to examine their own beliefs when challenged are telling.

He also points out that the left was NEVER about racial integration from the get-go, that was just a stalking horse to distract attention from the Soviet Union's own atrocities. Any time a critic pointed out the Gulag, leftists could say "Jim Crow" and it was treated as a wash.

This why was why the Black Panthers were the "true" representatives of what the left wanted, which was a revolution that would bring down the West once and for all. Only then could the New Man be made.

The only complaint I have is that he gets very personal and hearing about how his marriages came apart is interesting, but also somewhat distracting from what I wanted to know.

Still, it's superbly written and as every bit as relevant as it was in 1997.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

44 Speaking of W.E.B Griffiths "Corps" series...

I found a pre-war Faibairn-Sykes stilleto at the gun
show this summer for a hundred bucks.

...this doesn't make me Killer McCoy, though.

Posted by: retropox at November 18, 2018 09:32 AM (rgquC)

45

I officially Challenge ALL Democrats to a Fight.

My Pimp Hand is STRONG, even at Christmas time.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 09:33 AM (9lyhM)

46 Re-read Norman Maclean's 'Young Men and Fire'.


I love that book. He pulls off a thing not unlike 'A Perfect Storm', where right in the beginning he introduces you to a cast of attractive young characters and says they're almost all going to die but you go on the journey anyway.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 09:34 AM (fuK7c)

47 'shame culture that Orwell didn't envision.'

That was probably in the prequel.

Posted by: freakd at November 18, 2018 09:34 AM (UdKB7)

48 In authoring news, I'm pushing ahead with my novel about the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. The end of the first draft is in sight and I'm trying to keep this one short and focused. More of a novella, methinks.

Still working on a title for it, though. My original was "Three Weeks with the Coasties: a tale of the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill."

But I don't think that grabs attention. So I'm still working on that part.

Even then, I'll have to submit it to the JAGs so I don't get court-martialed or something. So it may have to wait until I retire before I publish it, but at least it will be done.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:34 AM (cfSRQ)

49 Good Morning Readers!

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Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:35 AM (MVjcR)

50 33 29 I love that top picture. The quantity seems sufficient but it is a bit neater than my book cave would be.
Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 09:19 AM (758Rh)

Needs more dust.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 09:21 AM (sdi6R)


Patience. It'll show up soon enough.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 18, 2018 09:36 AM (VaN/j)

51 44
Speaking of W.E.B Griffiths "Corps" series...



I found a pre-war Faibairn-Sykes stilleto at the gun

show this summer for a hundred bucks.



...this doesn't make me Killer McCoy, though.

Posted by: retropox at November 18, 2018 09:32 AM (rgquC)

I would love to have one of those.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 18, 2018 09:36 AM (mpXpK)

52 Morning all from Bob Evans in Maryland

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:36 AM (nyCAU)

53 Garcon, there's a chess match in my book thread!



j/k

thanks for the book.thread, OM, much content to peruse.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 18, 2018 09:37 AM (XZ3Gp)

54 ' Morning all from Bob Evans in Maryland'

Hi Bob!

Posted by: freakd at November 18, 2018 09:37 AM (UdKB7)

55 About the illustration at top... my French is kinda rusty:

Julie Proust Tanguy est aussi l’animatrice du Blog De Litteris

Je me moque des frontières littéraires et je tords le cou à la fiction. La fiction, c’est cette histoire secrète de la littérature que nous devons dénicher.


https://curiosaetc.wordpress.com/category/curiosa-caetera/entretiens/
(scroll all the way to bottom)

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 09:38 AM (e7O7B)

56 Thanks for the tip, Eris !

Ace Double, what fun !

Bezos' Minions will have it here by the end of the month.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2018 09:39 AM (tSXzq)

57

Bob Evans makes good breakfasses.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 09:39 AM (9lyhM)

58 I love that book. He pulls off a thing not unlike 'A Perfect Storm', where right in the beginning he introduces you to a cast of attractive young characters and says they're almost all going to die but you go on the journey anyway.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 09:34 AM (fuK7c)


The counterpart is the story where you know ahead of time that everyone survives, but find yourself at times wondering if they're going to.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 09:39 AM (t+qrx)

59 CNN Headline
House Ethics Committee chides Meadows, Kihuen over sexual harassment allegations

real story
Meadows did not do enough when he saw sexual harassment
Kihuen was doing some harassing himself

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 09:40 AM (JFO2v)

60 And they ( Bob Evans) make it with a smile

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:40 AM (K0Dlp)

61 My spinach reading is still Bryan Burroughs’ Days of Rage. Spinach, in that I have to force myself to continue reading. I feel a burning rage against these upper middle class college kids but even more so for the nostalgia some feel for these “revolutionaries”. But it’s excellent pop history, he has a reporter’s eye for the facts and doesn’t have a political axe to grind.

Obama’s mentors Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn figure prominently, natch. It’s Bernadine who is one of the most aggressive leaders of the Weathermen, and she held the other members in thrall. “Power doesn’t flow from the barrel of a gun,” snarled member Mark Rudd, “Power flows out of Bernadine’s c*nt.”

Endless rounds of self-criticism, followed by drug-fueled orgies – not just for fun, but to break down middle class notions of propriety, dissolve individualism, and transfer allegiance to the collective. It was a cult, basically. Of course it was a disaster; all it did was inflame petty jealousies and give rise to rampant STDs called Weather Crud.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:40 AM (kQs4Y)

62 Country Fried Steak and Eggs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2018 09:41 AM (K0Dlp)

63 That "library" is highly disorganized. Hard to find anything.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 09:41 AM (3HNOQ)

64 Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2018 09:39 AM (tSXzq)

You know it's crap, right?

But fun crap.

Sturgeon's Law.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:42 AM (kQs4Y)

65 I've learned not to click the pants link, so I don't know what it shows. But if it's the 70s as is implied, it recalls something my friends and I wondered at the time. Which is why they didn't try to revive the codpiece. The culture of the 70s was exactly right for it. Narcissism, showing off, faking it, shocking grandma, all the elements were in place.

By the 90s the time had passed. Too aggressively masculine.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 18, 2018 09:42 AM (VaN/j)

66 From my nightly stroll thru Charles Fort's Wild Talents I came across this little section:

Is life worth living? Like everybody else, I have many times asked that question, usually deciding negatively, because I am most likely to ask myself whether life is worth living at times when I am convinced it isn't. One day, in one of my frequent, and probably incurable, scientific moments, it occurred to me to find out. For a month, at the end of each day, I set down a plus sign, or a minus sign, indicating that, in my opinion, life had, or had not, been worth living, that day. At the end of the month, I totaled up, and I can't say that I was altogether pleased to learn that the pluses had won the game. It is not dignified to be optimistic.

Posted by: freakd at November 18, 2018 09:42 AM (UdKB7)

67 Brought Max Hastings' "The Secret War" on a trip, mostly for the long trans-Pacific flights, have only made it 100 pages or so in.

It's fine, lots of familiar ground, some interesting and silly generalizations, one or two errors.

Well written, flows nicely and draws you in, partly because Hastings' encyclopedic knowledge of WWII.

Posted by: Rhomboid at November 18, 2018 09:43 AM (NyQaH)

68 I forgot to mention that the codpiece conversation was inspired by Stand on Zanzibar.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 18, 2018 09:43 AM (VaN/j)

69 Vic,
The Fairbairn was bought to make a set with the
Shanghai Municipal Police Colt 1903 .32 I have.

Fairbairn, the guy who invented close-quarter pistol
combat with semi-auto pistols, and trained the British
SAS and the OSS was a true badass.

Posted by: retropox at November 18, 2018 09:45 AM (rgquC)

70 I regret not staying home with the kids when they were little, but I'm very grateful that I was able to find stay at home moms to care for them while I was at work. Very stable, loving homes. It was a blessing.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 18, 2018 09:45 AM (XZ3Gp)

71 Hans Schantz, you are doing yourself a disservice if you don't finish up Bracken's triad, and then go on to read "Red Cliffs".
His storytelling gets better with each book and he has his finger on the pulse of modern times.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:45 AM (sYLo5)

72 The counterpart is the story where you know ahead of time that everyone survives, but find yourself at times wondering if they're going to.


My whole family read "Seven Came Through" on vacation the year that I was eleven. It was Eddie Rickenbacker's account of being lost at sea in a liferaft for some inordinately long time.

Because I was eleven, I didn't get the significance of the title or put it together with the fact that there were eight men in the liferaft.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 09:46 AM (fuK7c)

73 I know other Morons have read it and offered their insights, but one thing I think is critical to emphasize is that everything we are seeing about the left going nuts was known to Horowitz and pointed out in 1997 when he published the book. It's all in there, even the recent Never Trump meltdown.
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This is so true! The sloganeering in Days of Rage is the exact same crap we're hearing today -- everything is institutional racism/sexism/oppression, and since it's woven into the very fabric of America, it has to be burned to the ground.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:46 AM (kQs4Y)

74 I believe the pic above is titled The Cemetery Of Forgotton Books. Drawing a blank on where exactly it's from.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 18, 2018 09:46 AM (Uiz/V)

75 is not this racist??

http://victorygirlsblog.com/is-the-fda-racist-or-just-stupid/

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 09:47 AM (JFO2v)

76 Have you really not previously linked to Eldridge's Cleaver pants? Certainly among the top worst pants ever, even counting all those knitted things.

Posted by: mindful webworker - pantalooney at November 18, 2018 09:48 AM (RmsK9)

77 So, I got a little package of cheeriness via interlibrary loan a little bit back: The Taking and Displaying of Human Body Parts as Trophies by Amerindians, edited by Chacon and Dye. About 700 pages of anthropological and archeological analysis. I haven't had time to read all the way through it, but if anyone wants a nice in-depth analysis of finger necklaces from the Plains, I recommend this book. Also has some stuff on archeological evidence for cannibalism among the Iroquois.

On a serious note, there seems to be an abundance of archeological evidence to back up early European accounts of violence and war among the Amerindians. Something for me to file away for the next time someone claims early accounts are exaggerated for propaganda.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 18, 2018 09:48 AM (bZ7mE)

78 This week I finished David Horowitz's excellent "Radical Son."

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I don't think it was Radical Son but another of his books which paints a portrait of his parents dying bitter and disappointed, waiting for the revolution that never came.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 09:49 AM (+y/Ru)

79 everything is institutional racism/sexism/oppression, and since it's woven into the very fabric of America, it has to be burned to the ground.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:46 AM (kQs4Y)

and rebuilt with what??? TADA socialism! Every cure for every disease is always socialism!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 09:49 AM (JFO2v)

80 I need a bigger library in my next house. My current library is full, along with the dining room and the game room. Will have to go with floor to ceiling shelves next time.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2018 09:50 AM (Eg45A)

81 SAy, OM, re browsing old QST's, didja see #309 on last weeks book thread ?
QST on CD in TIFF image format.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2018 09:51 AM (tSXzq)

82
Daycare??

Last week in my local fake news:

"4 Employees Fired After Three Toddlers Walk Away From Daycare Center"

Yeah, the little ones just left.

I think the daycare place is called "Pigtails & Cowlicks Daycare." Cutesy names are cute until something bad happens. For instance, Valujet's cutesy logo of a cartoon airplane was cute until their passengers were getting eaten alive by alligators in the Everglades.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 09:51 AM (9lyhM)

83 Cleaver said that one of the reasons for coming back to the U.S.A. was his son was playing soccer and not baseball and football in Europe.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 09:52 AM (3HNOQ)

84
You Had ONE Job!

Right?

The job: Watch the kids.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 09:52 AM (9lyhM)

85
I think the daycare place is called "Pigtails & Cowlicks Daycare." Cutesy names are cute until something bad happens. For instance, Valujet's cutesy logo of a cartoon airplane was cute until their passengers were getting eaten alive by alligators in the Everglades.


===

That's why I refuse to fly on Spirit Airlines.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 18, 2018 09:52 AM (Uiz/V)

86 Morning all. On the road this week and read through a pulp series about a failed musician turned reluctant Hollywood detective, called Artemis Black, from a writer I was unfamiliar with, Russell Blake. There are a few books in the series, starting with "Black" and extending through five total books. Easy, entertaining reads. Perfect for airplanes, trains, beaches or whatever.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, AntiDemFa (Anti-Demofascist) at November 18, 2018 09:52 AM (Z216Q)

87 Good morning!

Here's the interview of Erica Komisar on GMA.. about what you'd expect..

http://tinyurl.com/y9zc49zl

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2018 09:52 AM (438dO)

88 70
I regret not staying home with the kids when they were little, but I'm
very grateful that I was able to find stay at home moms to care for them
while I was at work. Very stable, loving homes. It was a blessing.



Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 18, 2018 09:45 AM (XZ3Gp)

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I think the most vile thing (among many) that the cultural left has done was to denigrate and stigmatize motherhood.

My wife has struggled for years to balance the needs of our kids with the perception that if she doesn't have a job, she's somehow a failure.

Over the last year, she's finally embraced motherhood completely, largely because she's seeing the differences between our kids and their peers.

Ours are resilient, capable, confident and well-grounded. They talk to us and tell us what's going on. Their friends are unstable, fragile, and while their families have more stuff than we do, they're miserable.

The other day we saw a commercial for "dinner in a box" and the millennials this thing was pitched to were all "wow, now we can cook at home with all the ingredients pre-measured and clear instructions on what to do!"

My wife and I stared at each other in total disbelief. I said: "How f*cking hard is it to brown ground beef, boil some noodles and open a jar of spaghetti sauce!?"

My wire replied that they obviously never saw anyone in their family do that, which is simply terrible.

What a total mess.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)

89 Eris, yes indeed I do ... it's the hardest category of reading to find these days.
Serious, technical, historic, abstruse, weird, I got lotsa dem onna shelves.
Fun crap, not so much.

"Ace Double"practically says that all by itself.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2018 09:54 AM (tSXzq)

90 Darn, must get back to yesterday's chores.
Weasel, while I'm choring, can you send over a Deplorable Gourmet? Delivered by 15 16 y.o. girl, please.

Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:55 AM (sYLo5)

91 This pic has been on my hard drive for over a year and I forget where I got it from. Is it a still from some movie or TV show?

Its from an alternate universe where Hillary is president, Spock has a beard, and chessboards are oriented with the white square on the left corner.

(Sorry, this is my minor version of OCD)

Posted by: Chuck C at November 18, 2018 09:55 AM (YTxkQ)

92 Still working on War and Peace. As a critique of Russian monarchy/aristocracy it's just devastating in a completely deadpan, non-didactic way. After the battle of Austerlitz, when their army is virtually destroyed and Napoleon is master of Europe, the aristocratic officers come home from the front and . . . go to parties. Hold banquets. Have love affairs and fight duels. No sense of crisis, no change.

This is how you get Lenin.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 18, 2018 09:55 AM (KqziQ)

93 As to the shocking lack of domestic skills, my eldest kid was once the superhero of the shared college apartment because when the stove's electric igniter didn't work, my kid knew how to LIGHT A MATCH and make the stove work. None of the other residents knew about that one weird trick.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 18, 2018 09:57 AM (KqziQ)

94 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:54 AM (cfSRQ
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All these people need cookbooks!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:57 AM (MVjcR)

95 78
This week I finished David Horowitz's excellent "Radical Son."



-

I don't think it was Radical Son but another of his books which
paints a portrait of his parents dying bitter and disappointed, waiting
for the revolution that never came.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 09:49 AM (+y/Ru)

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That's in there. He talks about how the repudiation of Stalin really wounded them. His father in particular was a ball of inarticulate rage.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:57 AM (cfSRQ)

96 You folks are really denying yourself something by not clicking on the Pants link.

What have we learned over the years? ALWAYS click on the link. Strange pleasures await!

"Shockingly...it was never a great success."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:57 AM (kQs4Y)

97 90 Darn, must get back to yesterday's chores.
Weasel, while I'm choring, can you send over a Deplorable Gourmet? Delivered by 15 16 y.o. girl, please.
Posted by: RI Red at November 18, 2018 09:55 AM (sYLo5)
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We'll need to agree on S&H first!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:58 AM (MVjcR)

98 Last week in my local fake news:

"4 Employees Fired After Three Toddlers Walk Away From Daycare Center"

-
In our local news, a doctor is in trouble because during an operation he painted the patient's vagaygay purple as a joke. Turns out she didn't have a sense of humor.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 09:58 AM (+y/Ru)

99 For instance, Valujet's cutesy logo of a cartoon airplane was cute until their passengers were getting eaten alive by alligators in the Everglades.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 09:51 AM (9lyhM)


This is legitimately one of my hangups about people who wear costumes to the office on Halloween. What if you spin out and hit a bridge abutment on the way home and they have to cut you out of the car? What if there's a round of layoffs and you get called in and let go? What if you get a call from the hospital and have to rush in to see your spouse or kid in the ER? You will do these things with those silly deely boppers on your head. How could someone take that risk?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 09:58 AM (t+qrx)

100 I worked in a daycare. The most psychologically healthy kids were the ones who spent fewer than ten hours a week there.

One four-year-old kid who was there for all the hours we were open was practically demon-possessed. (I was trying to calm him one time and he said, "I want Jesus to kill me."). His mom and her boyfriend would pick him up at closing and take him to childcare at the gym where they would work out for hours every day.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 09:58 AM (4HMW8)

101 94
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:54 AM (cfSRQ

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All these people need cookbooks!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 09:57 AM (MVjcR)

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Wouldn't go any good. They don't know what words like "simmer" or "broil" mean, or how to measure ingredients or even where to get them.

That's the telling thing. If you see people cook, if you help cook, it becomes second nature. Once you know the basics, you can experiment and find new twists on stuff.

But if you've never seen it, you don't know where to start, so you order in and watch Netflix.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 09:59 AM (cfSRQ)

102 My mother went back to work very soon after I was born . I consider myself perfectly normal.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 09:59 AM (2DOZq)

103 As a critique of Russian monarchy/aristocracy it's just devastating in a completely deadpan, non-didactic way.


I wonder if that's a 'does a fish know it's wet' kind of thing. I read Turgenev's "A Sportsman's Sketches" not long ago.

I thought I was going to read about a guy who goes hunting and fishing, but so much of it was taken up by the social relations of everyone. Peasant farmers, tenant farmers, landowners, gentry, merchants, eighty-four kinds of aristocracy, and each of them absolutely fixed at their rung of society.

Of course you got Lenin.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 10:00 AM (fuK7c)

104 73
This is so true! The sloganeering in Days of Rage is the exact same crap we're hearing today -- everything is institutional racism/sexism/oppression, and since it's woven into the very fabric of America, it has to be burned to the ground.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:46 AM (kQs4Y)


I remember back during the 2008 campaign when calling Obama a socialist was deemed racist.

Lately I've been noticing how often Trump and his supporters are called racists or white nationalists. I think the reasoning goes something like this:

Racism is unacceptable.

Opposition to socialism is racism.

Therefore, opposition to socialism is unacceptable.

I believe this would have been made explicit if Hillary had won, and may yet be if/when Blotto or Occasional-Cortex or their ilk become President.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 10:00 AM (sdi6R)

105 In our local news, a doctor is in trouble because during an operation he painted the patient's vagaygay purple as a joke. Turns out she didn't have a sense of humor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 09:58 AM (+y/Ru)


That is one weird doctor.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 10:00 AM (4HMW8)

106 Grey Fox has the best coffee table books.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 10:01 AM (kQs4Y)

107 Well, I stayed home with my kids from the time they were born until about a year and a half ago. The youngest is 9. I have also taken them to a TxMoMe. I may be doing this all wrong....

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:01 AM (kufk0)

108 While Tolstoy's my downstairs book, upstairs I'm reading a book about George Washington's spy ring in New York: _George Washington's Secret Six_, by Brian Kilmeade.

It's . . . okay. The subject matter is sufficiently interesting that I can overlook the book's flaws. But boy does it have flaws. The author insists on dramatizing scenes between characters -- which means I have to grit my teeth to avoid flinging the book out of the window at the way his 18th-century characters use contemporary patterns of speech.

My guess is that he was thinking about a movie deal while writing it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 18, 2018 10:01 AM (KqziQ)

109 >>>The trouble with lifelong book collecting is that eventually they stack up the way they do in the picture. Between the two of us, we more and more often can't find what we're looking for.

Well hello, sailor!

Posted by: Dewey Decimal at November 18, 2018 10:02 AM (/qEW2)

110 107 Well, I stayed home with my kids from the time they were born until about a year and a half ago. The youngest is 9. I have also taken them to a TxMoMe. I may be doing this all wrong....
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:01 AM (kufk0)
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Very nice and mannerly little chirrun', too!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 10:02 AM (MVjcR)

111 and so civilian bodies and individuals like the Sanitary Commission, and Mrs. Bickerdyke stepped in - pretty heroically, it appears. (All this is research in service to my next historical novel...)

Don't forget the many Catholic Sisters who served as nurses, often despite the opposition of Proper Protestant Society Ladies.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 18, 2018 10:03 AM (MwFQu)

112
hogmartin, that reminds me of the great advice we all got from our grandmas and great-aunts:

Always Make Sure You're Wearing Clean Underwears...Because You Never Know What Might Happen

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 10:03 AM (9lyhM)

113 I must have a pair of those pants.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 10:04 AM (5aX2M)

114
Grandma would say: What if you get into an accident?!?!


So, wear clean undies. Or else.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 10:04 AM (9lyhM)

115 I think the most vile thing (among many) that the cultural left has done was to denigrate and stigmatize motherhood.

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Life would be a lot better if women weren't punished with babies.

Posted by: Emperor of Everything Obola at November 18, 2018 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

116 96
You folks are really denying yourself something by not clicking on the Pants link.



What have we learned over the years? ALWAYS click on the link. Strange pleasures await!



"Shockingly...it was never a great success."



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 09:57 AM (kQs4Y)

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I was too young to benefit from the bra-less look of the 70s. Also missed the freewheeling pre-AIDS teenage scene.

Still, the late 80s and early 90s were a damn sight better than things are today.

Also, photos of me in high school aren't particularly embarrassing. A t-shirt, jeans and worn sneakers never go out of style.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (cfSRQ)

117 Always Make Sure You're Wearing Clean Underwears...Because You Never Know What Might Happen
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But if something happens they won't be clean anymore....duh!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (kufk0)

118 I've spent so much time the last couple of weeks being enraged at the news and news coverage, it messed with my reading. Couldn't enjoy history books, philosophy, or even modern novels. And if anything advertises itself with words like "torn from today's headlines", it goes right in the trash where it belongs.

Two areas are saving my reading enjoyment.

The first is books about art: appreciation, techniques, ven how the paints were made in earlier times. But especially books about winston Churchill and his painting.

The second area is humorous books: Wodehouse, Pat McManus, Jerome K. Jerome, the Liturgical Mysteries, and Amory's "The Trouble With Nowadays, A Curmudgeon Strikes Back".

I intend to enter the holiday season in a pleasant and positive mood and these books help. Also, I start my annual rereading of LOTR soon.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (758Rh)

119
Parents today don't tell their loser-spawn to wear clean undies because the young parents of today don't wear undies and they completely shave their privates so they look like babies down there.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (9lyhM)

120 I'm reading a book about George Washington's spy ring in New York: _George Washington's Secret Six_, by Brian Kilmeade.

I'm sort of reading 'Washington's Spies'. (That means I've started it but am also reading other things). It was disappointing to know that Nathan Hale did nothing and that wasn't his quote.

Kilmeade...I saw him on a CSPAN thing promoting a history book. He's not an historian, he's a Fox News douche. He was just promoting. Like, "hey, if you don't want to talk about this book, let's talk about all the other wonderful things I think about me".

I wouldn't really have noticed him on the newz if I hadn't seen that and now I can't stand him.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 10:06 AM (fuK7c)

121 102
My mother went back to work very soon after I was born . I consider myself perfectly normal.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 09:59 AM (2DOZq)

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Those affected are often the last to know.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 10:07 AM (cfSRQ)

122 This is the only place on the Interwebz where vulgarity becomes educational.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 10:07 AM (y3cH7)

123 77
So, I got a little package of cheeriness via interlibrary loan a little bit back: The Taking and Displaying of Human Body Parts as Trophies by Amerindians, edited by Chacon and Dye.

Just a stroll through the Table of Contents makes for some intriguing themes:
"Heads, Women, and the baubles of prestige"
"Human finger and hand bone necklaces..."
"The House of cut-off heads..."
I need to get this book.

Posted by: River Cat at November 18, 2018 10:07 AM (P34JQ)

124 Grandma would say: What if you get into an accident?!?!
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 10:04 AM (9lyhM)


She wasn't wrong.

But if something happens they won't be clean anymore....duh!
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (kufk0)


They'd be able to tell if they were clean before. Somehow.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:07 AM (t+qrx)

125 I have to grit my teeth to avoid flinging the book out of the window at the way his 18th-century characters use contemporary patterns of speech.
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"Yo, Georgie my man!", or "I can't deal right now, I'm still processing this."?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 10:07 AM (kQs4Y)

126 While Democrats may be Cockmadaws, I don't think we can say they are pussivanting. For while they make frequent, even constant, great fussess over nothing, their commotions are quite effectual. Just look at all the seats they flipped this month. Or the border. Or Obamacare.

Posted by: JoeofPA at November 18, 2018 10:09 AM (vLYq9)

127 Watched Special last night on Jim Jones and the People's Temple. It wasn't overt but it had the sense of that old excuse that the Socialism of the People's Temple would have worked but for....

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 10:09 AM (2DOZq)

128 >>>in England, if they think you are crazy but can be cured, they can hold you in a psych facility/prison until someone signs off on you being sane enough to return to society

Well, we don't want crazy people running around free. And let's face it, given how self-evidently true Islam is, you'd have to be crazy not to be a Muslim. Thus the Shahada is the test for sanity.

Posted by: Saddiq Khan at November 18, 2018 10:09 AM (/qEW2)

129 I intend to enter the holiday season in a pleasant
and positive mood and these books help. Also, I start my annual
rereading of LOTR soon.



Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (758Rh)

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Started last week after finishing Horowitz.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at November 18, 2018 10:09 AM (cfSRQ)

130 "Life would be a lot better if women weren't punished with babies.
Posted by: Emperor of Everything Obola "


You can say that again.

Posted by: zombie Stanley Ann Dunham at November 18, 2018 10:10 AM (UdKB7)

131 While Democrats may be Cockmadaws, I don't think we can say they are pussivanting. For while they make frequent, even constant, great fussess over nothing, their commotions are quite effectual. Just look at all the seats they flipped this month. Or the border. Or Obamacare.
Posted by: JoeofPA at November 18, 2018 10:09 AM (vLYq9)

That goes to my often repeated description of the Left. They are bold but not brave.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 10:11 AM (2DOZq)

132 My book group is almost done with "A Handful of Dust" by Evelyn Waugh and I can almost say for sure that if this was the first work of Waugh's we'd read we would never have undertaken Brideshead Revisited. It's not so much that it's poorly written, although parts have a slapdash air of having been hastily put together from scraps here and there, but just about everyone in it are such unlikeable dickweeds and whores. Even the kind of sympathetic clueless cuckec husband comes off like a early version of George Costanza when he starts fooling around with some young thing on a cruise ship and can't understand why she becomes distant when he lets slip that he's kind of married. There's dark humor which permeates the whole book; but it's kind of a scuzzy and creepy type that makes you feel guilty for enjoying it. It's different than Lolita in which Nabokov is calling out the reader for enjoying a book about a pedophile; at least that was superbly written.

Have any of the Horde of the Book read From Here to Eternity? That's what the book group has lined up next and already I'm feeling irritated for not having blackballed it and that it's going to be some low to middlebrow crap that will irritate the fuck out of me before I tell them to stop wasting my time with these shitty choices. Not that I'm judgemental and I'm open to any of you telling me I'm full of shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 18, 2018 10:11 AM (y7DUB)

133 The Taking and Displaying of Human Body Parts as Trophies by Amerindians
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32 bucks on Amazon just for the Kindle! And there's no "Look inside!" function.

One reviewer mentions a drum made with stretched human hide. That is seriously Metal.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 10:12 AM (kQs4Y)

134 I thought Cockmadaw was the alternate universe MSNBC anchor.

Posted by: Corndog at November 18, 2018 10:12 AM (V2CIU)

135 I think the most vile thing (among many) that the cultural left has done was to denigrate and stigmatize motherhood.

My
wife has struggled for years to balance the needs of our kids with the
perception that if she doesn't have a job, she's somehow a failure.
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This.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, AntiDemFa (Anti-Demofascist) at November 18, 2018 10:12 AM (Z216Q)

136 124 Grandma would say: What if you get into an accident?!?!
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 10:04 AM (9lyhM)

She wasn't wrong.

But if something happens they won't be clean anymore....duh!
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 10:05 AM (kufk0)

They'd be able to tell if they were clean before. Somehow.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 10:07 AM (t+qrx)

Bill Cosby says they only way they are gonna be clean in a wreck is if they are in glove compartment!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 18, 2018 10:13 AM (JFO2v)

137 The United States also used to practice indefinite detention for the severely mentally ill. Now we just leave them out on the street to turn our cities into the nightmarish hellscapes they are.

The severely mentally ill should be institutionalized, for their own and for our sake. I've had this argument with many lefties in the past. They will claim that Ronald Reagan shut down all of the California mental institutions in order to save money and cut taxes for the rich. I will counter that indefinite detention was sued out of existence by the usual suspects, the vanguard of the revolution, the Lawfare Left.

Posted by: motionview at November 18, 2018 10:14 AM (pYQR/)

138 This week I read and enjoyed "The King's Grave: The Discovery of Richard III's Lost Burial Place and the Clues it Holds" by Philippa Langley and Michael Jones. It may have been recommended from the Book Thread. It was on my wish list and I can't recall how it got there.

For those who don't know the story, the grave was discovered under a parking lot in Leiscester over 500 years after Richard was quickly and unceremoniously buried after the Battle of Bosworth Field. Enjoyable book for those who like English history and archaeology. Langley is a bit over the top in trying to rehabilitate Richard's reputation, but I can see how that can happen when you're trying to offset centuries of hearing only one side--the Tudor one--of his life story.

The other thing that struck me about the book was Langley's tolerance for the innumerable layers of UK bureaucracy (national and local) that she had to navigate to make the archaelogical dig happen. The labyrinth of regulations and approvals was almost comically impenetrable.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 10:15 AM (S+f+m)

139 I messed up a few days ago. Mrs. Wrecks' birthday is coming up and she is a big Camelot/JFK fan so I bought her A Very Private Woman, a book about one of JFK's side squeezes whose unsolved mysterious murder is the stuff of conspiracy theories. My error was revealed yesterday when the book's author, Nina Burleigh, revealed herself to be an idiot by tweeting that all AR-15 owners are mass murderers. And I gave her some of my money!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2018 10:16 AM (+y/Ru)

140 I saw a few interesting books at the SBL conference here. Michel Cuypers thinks that suras 88-112 were gathered in that order to set forth an apocalypse about the end of the world. Daniel Beck has another book arguing that many of these suras started out as apocalyptic Christian (Syrian) sermons but got repurposed

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 18, 2018 10:17 AM (AXMqy)

141 I would worry about one of those lamps tipping over and setting fire to all those books.

Morning oh literate literati of the Horde. So who is reading the books that the Disney movie The Black Cauldron was based on after yesterday's discussion?

I think this graphic sums up many of our lives n'est ce pas?
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y74gszpp

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 18, 2018 10:18 AM (d+6Pw)

142 Nina Burly sound like a good drag queen name.

Posted by: freakde at November 18, 2018 10:18 AM (UdKB7)

143 That "mothers are biologically necessary for babies."

She also claimed that a mother provides different benefits to a newborn child than a father, and that the absence of mothers can lead to developmental problems for the child later in life.


But what if the father was the one who gave birth? Then the baby would only need the one parent.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 10:19 AM (/qEW2)

144 Watched Special last night on Jim Jones and the People's Temple. It wasn't overt but it had the sense of that old excuse that the Socialism of the People's Temple would have worked but for....
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 18, 2018 10:09 AM


In the PBS American Experience: Jonestown, they interview three or four of the survivors/escapees and they all basically say "it should have worked", 'we were doing something great", etc. I will never understand that psychology.

Posted by: Chuck C at November 18, 2018 10:19 AM (YTxkQ)

145 Watched the Coen Brothers Netflix anthology story yesterday, called "The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs". It was unlike anything I've ever seen and seemed almost book-like in its pacing and short-story kind of construction. It almost seemed like I was reading a set of offbeat stories of the west, a little similar in style to the Berrybender stories from Larry McMurtry.


Highly recommended (if you like the Coen Bros. stuff).

Posted by: Huck Follywood, AntiDemFa (Anti-Demofascist) at November 18, 2018 10:19 AM (Z216Q)

146 93 ... "when the stove's electric igniter didn't work, my kid knew how to LIGHT A MATCH and make the stove work. None of the other residents knew about that one weird trick."

That reminds me of being approached by a woman in a parking lot whose key fob wouldn't work to open the car door. Did I know anything about cars? I suggested she put the key in the lock and open it by hand. The look she gave me was priceless. It never occured to her to open the car manually.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 10:19 AM (758Rh)

147 'shame culture that Orwell didn't envision.'


Traditionally, Judeo-Christian culture is a Guilt Culture.

The emphasis in a guilt culture is personal responsibility and personal improvement. Notice how the idea of personal improvement has disappeared.

As long as American was a Judeo-Christian Guilt culture, we were successful as a nation because everyone knew they were responsible for their own success in life.

That's why it was so important for the left to turn American culture into a Victim Culture.

That way individuals are never responsible for their own failures. And there is no need to improve or educate yourself because you are a perfect and precious little snowflake blown about by forces beyond your control.

That's why the leftard victimoltariet scream the factually and demonstrably insane claim that you're beliefs ARE KILLING THEM!!!!111!!!.

Yeah, no.

So, if we're all tied together by their philosophical viewpoint, which they believe we are, then we must be shamed and educated to follow the correct and righteous path and accept their punishment.

Hence, the new American Shame Culture.

By the way, Shame cultures are a distinctive feature of both Communist/socialist and Muslim societies, which are objectively the least successful societies on the Planet Earth.

Yes, it is a religion for the Progtards. I don't see a peaceful way out of this situation because the Progtard insanity allows none.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 10:20 AM (CRRq9)

148 Watched Special last ni