Groucho Marx Redux: "Who Are You Going To Believe, Me Or Your Own Eyes?"
Islam Isn't Responsible For Islamic Terrorism? Huh?

My grandfather was a policeman in pre-independence Israel, and he used to patrol Arab villages on horseback (he also hunted wild pigs with a spear!). He used to say that the people were always friendly, but that they were incredible liars, and here we have a fine example of just that!

Professor Claims Islam Is Not The Root Of Islamic Terrorism

This continues a common trend of denying the Islamist roots of jihadi attacks, even as survey data show that a deeply disturbing minority of Muslim believers support terrorism. As Israeli analyst Shmuel Bar wrote in 2004, in leading Islamic clerical circles, “radical ideology does not represent a marginal and extremist perversion of Islam, but rather a[n] … increasingly mainstream interpretation.”
But I thought that "Islam is a religion of peace!"

Of course none of this is new, but what I find interesting are the similarities between this apologist for mass murder and the modern Left in America. They effortlessly obfuscate and lie and ascribe their own beliefs and actions to their enemies. Perhaps that is why they are such vociferous defenders of Islamic hate and killing?

Below the fold is a short video on "Tagiya," which isn't quite what the learned professor is doing, but its close!

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1 Afternoon Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:16 PM (Y4EXg)

2 Roomy!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (a4EWo)

3 We have the whole place to ourselves DDS.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

4 Islam - religion of war, conquest, deception, slavery

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 12:19 PM (G546f)

5 3 We have the whole place to ourselves DDS.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

There's a dentist in the house?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 12:20 PM (NWiLs)

6 A religion of slaves and slayers, raiders and robbers. It sucks the West is declining just as Islam ramps up its fuckery, what am I saying, cause and effect.

Posted by: Brother Cavil says at October 20, 2019 12:23 PM (D5yyd)

7 Oh, I tend to judge a person or group not by what they say, but what they DO.

Which is why that taqiyya bullshit doesn't work on me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:24 PM (Z4rgH)

8 But I thought that "Islam is a religion of peace!"

You would be correct.

Posted by: Mesquite-scented Druid phiolospher GWB at October 20, 2019 12:24 PM (EgshT)

9 Islam - religion of war, conquest, deception, slavery

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 12:19 PM (G546f)

Ya left out 'submission'.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 12:25 PM (X/Pw5)

10 Just finished Haxan, and now convinced Hillary is a witch

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:26 PM (ZCEU2)

11 David Wood's videos on Islam are simultaneously entertaining, educational and depressing.

Posted by: Grimaldi at October 20, 2019 12:26 PM (JCZqz)

12 It's not a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: Abdul Costanza at October 20, 2019 12:27 PM (ZLI7S)

13 Lots of people practice Taqiyya. If you live in some states, or work in some places, you do it every day, because if the people around you knew you were not a practicing leftists, they would get you fired from your job, kicked out of your university, or wouldn't let you shop for groceries without hounding you, or worse.

So if you're someone doing that, it sure makes sense. Two questions though: Why are you living there, and what are you doing to fight the leftists with whom you associate?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:27 PM (hku12)

14 OT. WAY OT...

Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

Felicity... just STFU.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 12:28 PM (Cssks)

15 It would fun to have a conversation with him, and say "you know I agree with you, I don't think it's Islam, I think rather that it's simply the fact that all Arabs are vicious untrustworthy barbaric murderers."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (V2Yro)

16 Let's not bicker and argue about who kills who.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (XVuno)

17 It's on my tablet as a ebook but haven't read it in awhile History of Jihad, Mohammed to Isis by Robert Spencer so I have no illusions on what Islam's followers are doing.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (ZCEU2)

18 What would we do without those tenured dhimmis?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (y7DUB)

19
A religion of slaves and slayers, raiders and robbers. It sucks the West is declining just as Islam ramps up its fuckery, what am I saying, cause and effect.
Posted by: Brother Cavil


What will China and Indian have to say about it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (aKsyK)

20 You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere who disapprove of tactics like suicide bombing - except in Israel.

Sorry - if you support terrorist bombings of civilian targets in Israel, eventually you will support terrorist bombings of civilian targets everywhere else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2019 12:30 PM (I2/tG)

21 Of course Islam is THE religion of peace!

Peace comes after you subjugate the non-believers, and keep a tight lid on what the believers can and cannot do.

Peace is easy, when you have total control.

Peace is not freedom.

Again, look at your leftist enclaves. They SEEK peace, they crave it! They want YOU to adhere to their standards, and will work tirelessly to see that you do, because to them, peace will come when nobody disagrees with them.

Peace, needless to say, is overrated.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:31 PM (hku12)

22 Until we get the balls to really fight back, this will continue

make a "she devil" list and carry it out

check off one or two, it will stop

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:33 PM (rpxSz)

23 Oh, I tend to judge a person or group not by what they say, but what they DO.



Which is why that taqiyya bullshit doesn't work on me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:24 PM (Z4rgH)


Bingo. I view islam as a cancer, its followers as cancer cells, and nukes as chemo. Fuck'em

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 20, 2019 12:33 PM (9Om/r)

24 Just came to me Leftism is also a religion of peace, they constantly say do what we want and we will leave you alone as long as you follow our beliefs.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (ZCEU2)

25 14 Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

"They made us eat the sushi with a plastic fork!!"

"I couldn't even get a hair appointment!"

"The house wine was terrible. They called it 'Pruno'."

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (Z4rgH)

26 Tagiya!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6amDbAwlY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

27 Islam is the religion of submission.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2/tG)

28 Chris Wallace thinks if he blows Rick Wilson in a gloryhole. he's a connected republican

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:36 PM (rpxSz)

29 You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere

We do? Well I'll be dipped in barbecue sauce!

Posted by: Mesquite-scented Druid phiolospher GWB at October 20, 2019 12:36 PM (EgshT)

30 25 14 Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

"They made us eat the sushi with a plastic fork!!"

"I couldn't even get a hair appointment!"

"The house wine was terrible. They called it 'Pruno'."
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (Z4rgH)

"My schmundie's the wrong shade of pink"

oh, wait

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:38 PM (rpxSz)

31 And since I have to go out for the day, imma go OT too.

Drinking (and partying in general) is a violent pastime.

So go ahead, have a shot or ten. Pound it down, slam back another, and get

smashed, hammered, ripped, wasted, tanked, bombed, plowed, totaled, wrecked, spaced, stoned, lit, blasted, tore up, blitzed...

Afterwards, don't blame me for the hangover.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:38 PM (Z4rgH)

32 Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Posted by: Islam Hulk at October 20, 2019 12:39 PM (+y/Ru)

33
Sorry - if you support terrorist bombings of civilian targets in Israel, eventually you will support terrorist bombings of civilian targets everywhere else.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


They'll claim there are no civilian Israelis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

34 I think the administration should be backing Mulvaney more.

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2019 12:39 PM (ZfRYq)

35 The house wine was terrible. They called it 'Pruno'.

That's good stuff. *hic* *shart*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at October 20, 2019 12:40 PM (EgshT)

36 Islam is not worth one drop of American blood

Bombs R US, it's what we do

Should have flatten Mecca after 9-11

I don't mean bomb, I mean flatten

It's what they understand

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:41 PM (rpxSz)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 10-20-2019

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University Library of Leuven-Louvain, Belgium


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), jokers, smokers, midnight tokers, and the pompatus of love, whom I just know gets up early on Sundays just for this thread. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look like a lot of wishful thinking went into making them. In fact, one might call them the triumph of hope over experience.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®




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'Girl Reading', Franz Ebyl, 1850

A Book By A Bunch of Guys Named Dave

This is cute:

The history of science fiction and fantasy is littered with stories by Davids of distinction. Now, for the first time, an anthology by people named David, for everyone.

Read along as editor David Afsharirad guides you through the strange, wondrous imaginations of the great Davids of the field, past and present. Fifteen tales by David Weber, David Drake, Gregory Benford & David Brin, David B. Coe, D.J. Butler, Avram Davidson, David H. Keller, and many more.

And what do these Davids like to write about?

Herein you will find: a Depression-era magic man who comes face-to-face with an ancient evil. A once-promising filmmaker whose fate depends on a movie-producing AI. A shape-shifting detective on the trail of a pack of werewolves. A sentient tank who must confront one of its own. And a diner regular who gets more than he bargained for when he orders the soup du jour.

Yes, The Chronicles of Davids has all that and more!

Some SJW types are whining at Baen because, well, because all of the authors are named Dave and so therefore it's not very inclusive. Particularly toward women. So Baen said, hold on, we've got this, Women of Futures Past, edited by Kristine Kathryn Rusch.

You'll find Northwest Smith, C.L. Moore’s famous smuggler who predates (and maybe inspired) Han Solo by four decades. Read Leigh Brackett’s fiction and see why George Lucas chose her to write The Empire Strikes Back. Adventure tales, post‑apocalyptic visions, space opera, aliens‑among‑us, time travel—these women have delivered all this and more, some of the best science fiction ever written!

Also stories by Lois McMaster Bujold, Pat Cadigan, CJ Cherryh, Zenna Henderson, Nancy Kress, Ursula K. Le Guin, Anne McCaffrey, Andre Norton, James Tiptree, Jr., and Connie Willis.

And then the SJWs went, "oh, women, pfft!" and rolled their eyes. I guess they wanted more gay Muslim midgets of color. And complained that there weren't any *contemporary* women authors.

Hell with them. Let them watch the new, super-woke Batwoman series on CW. Nobody else is.




Who Dis:

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Last Sunday's 'Who Dis' was Ethan Hawke.



Moron Recommendations

Vic digs up an old classic:

8 I started to read Islands of Rage and Hope by John Ringo but I noted reference to a 1950s dystopian book named 'Alas, Babylon' by Pat Frank. It was about a nuclear war between the US and Russia and how a small town in FL coped with it. It sounded interesting so I downloaded it and read it. It was a short novel and pretty cheap. It was interesting.

Posted by: Vic at October 13, 2019 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

That brings back memories. I first read Alas, Babylon when I was in high school back in the 70s. What I remember best about it is the episode where the family had to find a source of salt. In post-apocolyptic America, there is no electricity and hence no refrigeration, so the preservative qualities of salt have suddenly become very important.

Alas, Babylon is a 1959 novel by American writer Pat Frank (the pen name of Harry Hart Frank). It was one of the first apocalyptic novels of the nuclear age and has remained popular more than half century after it was first published, consistently ranking in Amazon.com's Top 20 Science Fiction Short Stories list (which groups together short story collections and novels) and has an entry in David Pringle's book Science Fiction: The 100 Best Novels. The novel deals with the effects of a nuclear war on the fictional small town of Fort Repose, Florida, which is based upon the actual city of Mount Dora, Florida. The novel's title is derived from the Book of Revelation: "Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come."

So it's the godfather of the post-apocalyptic science fiction sub-genre.

Sometimes Amazon will gouge you for these sorts of classic books, but surprisingly, the Kindle edition is only $2.99. As Vic says, it's a short, cheap read.

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Stuff they don't teach in schools any more:

31 Last week, my wife, the lovely and gracious Annalucia, and I visited Montpelier, the home of James and Dolley Madison. The estate has been restored relatively recently and is well worth visiting. Madison's study on the second floor, a small room looking east that in his day was literally stacked high with books, is impressive in its simplicity; and to stand in the place where that genius devised his "Virginia Plan", the first draft of what was to become the US Constitution, was for me quite moving. If you have the opportunity, you should go.

I mention this because the docent who guided us through the mansion, and who was excellent, recommended "The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President" by Noah Feldman. Annalucia and I are reading it aloud, as is our habit, and we're about halfway through the Philadelphia convention. So far, the book is excellent. Feldman organizes and presents this complex material in a way that is lucid and compelling.

Previously, I'd read Lynne Cheney's biography of Madison, and found it to be superficial. Feldman is much more substantive. I think it is a good introduction to Madison's life and thought; and understanding Madison is a key to understanding our Republic. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Brown Line at October 13, 2019 09:17 AM (S6ArX)

The Amazon blurb for this book is quite lengthy. Madison hoped to

...eradicate partisanship yet found himself giving voice to, and institutionalizing, the political divide. Madison’s lifelong loyalty to Thomas Jefferson led to an irrevocable break with George Washington, hero of the American Revolution. Madison closely collaborated with Alexander Hamilton on the Federalist papers—yet their different visions for the United States left them enemies.

This is great stuff. What *do* they teach in schools these days?

We may be more familiar with other Founding Fathers, but the United States today is in many ways Madisonian in nature. Madison predicted that foreign threats would justify the curtailment of civil liberties. He feared economic inequality and the power of financial markets over politics, believing that government by the people demanded resistance to wealth. Madison was the first Founding Father to recognize the importance of public opinion, and the first to understand that the media could function as a safeguard to liberty.

"Could".

One wonders what Madison would have to say about what our media has become, namely, fluffers for the basest sorts of perfidy, assholery, and totalitarianism. Of course, it was Geo. Washington (I think) who referred to the journalists of his day as "infernal scribblers", so maybe he wouldn't be all that surprised.

It's $12.99 for the Kindle edition of The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President

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A lurker writes:

I just finished a copy of Thomas Sowell's In Search of Cosmic Justice. Written about 20 years ago, still worth the read and very prescient.

Any book whose Amazon blurb begins with:

This is not a comforting book

...is probably worth a look:

[I]t is a book about disturbing issues that are urgently important today and enduringly critical for the future. It rejects both "merit" and historical redress as principles for guiding public policy. It shows how "peace" movements have led to war and to needless casualties in those wars. It argues that "equality" is neither right nor wrong, but meaningless.

The Quest for Cosmic Justice shows how confused conceptions of justice end up promoting injustice, how confused conceptions of equality end up promoting inequality, and how the tyranny of social visions prevents many people from confronting the actual consequences of their own beliefs and policies. Those consequences include the steady and dangerous erosion of the fundamental principles of freedom -- and the quiet repeal of the American revolution.

The Quest for Cosmic Justice is available on Kindle for $12.99, but there are cheap, used paperbacks available, too.

Of course, pretty much any book by Thomas Sowell is worth reading. The man is a national treasure.


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Old and Busted:

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The New Hotness:

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Books By Morons

Last we heard from conservative author Adam Lane Smith, his action hero, Maxwell Cain, couldn't eat his burrito lunch without bad guys trying to kill him. But now it seems he's pioneering a new subgenre of science fiction, called "heavy metal Christian pulp" with his latest novel, Gideon Ira: Knight of the Blood Cross, which is the first installment of his new Deus Vult Wasteland series:

Demons and Necromancers haunt a burnt and blasted future in the ruins of what was once America.

A holy crusader sworn to slaughter the dark cults of Ba’al the Ever-Hungry must rescue a band of innocent children with his blade and blood-soaked gauntlets, or die trying.

All of Hell thirsts for his blood, but a man of God will never be broken. This holy crusader’s vengeance will be brutal.

The Kindle edition is $3.99. It is also available in paperback.

This is the first in Smith'a Deus Vult Wastland series.

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I think pimping an academic author really classes up the joint. A lurking moron author e-mails:

I'm a history/archaeology professor at a small Texas College (TJC-The College of East Texas) and publish quite a bit, usually in other people's books.

But, my own collaborator, Jennifer Loughmiller-Cardinal recently published our own book on Native American tobacco.

It's an academic book, so it is not cheap. They're expensive because the print run is so small.

At any rate, for those who are interested in not reading anything political, it's about pre-Colombian tobacco among the Maya peoples of Central American, the largest group of Native Americans in the Americas, its ritual, medicinal, and recreational uses, the oldest snuff bottle tradition in the world, and the chemistry, biology, history, and archaeology of all of the above.

And not just the Maya, apparently, because the Amazon blurb says

...this volume assembles scholars from a variety of disciplines and specialties to discuss tobacco in modern and ancient contexts. The chapters utilize research from archaeology, ethnography, mythic narrative, and chemical science from the eighth through the twenty-first centuries.

And he ain't kidding about it not being cheap. Breath and Smoke: Tobacco Use among the Maya sells for $75.00, hardcover.

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And speaking of another expensive academic book, another really smart moron wrote a philosophical treatise, The Epistemological Skyhook: Determinism, Naturalism, and Self-Defeat

Throughout philosophical history, there has been a recurring argument to the effect that determinism, naturalism, or both are self-referentially incoherent. By accepting determinism or naturalism, one allegedly acquires a reason to reject determinism or naturalism. The Epistemological Skyhook brings together, for the first time, the principal expressions of this argument, focusing primarily on the last 150 years. This book addresses the versions of this argument as presented by Arthur Lovejoy, A.E. Taylor, Kurt Gödel, C.S. Lewis, Norman Malcolm, Karl Popper, J.R. Lucas, William Hasker, Thomas Nagel, Alvin Plantinga, and others, along with the objections presented by their many detractors. It concludes by presenting a new version of the argument that synthesizes the best aspects of the others while also rendering the argument immune to some of the most significant objections made to it.

This isn't a light read. The Kindle version is north of $50, but you get a lot of meat for your money. But Jim gave a couple of interviews (here and here) where he talks about the issues he raises in his books, as well as many other books and authors.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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1 Rosemary Clooney

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (U7k5w)

2 The history of science fiction and fantasy is littered with stories by Davids of distinction.

best one is David Weber.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 I did NOT expect a first. Hence the answer to who's dis?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:04 AM (U7k5w)

4 Wow. Way to go, OM. BBL when I've absorbed the content.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 09:04 AM (+a9vj)

5 Nice Lieberry!

Russian Bots, what can't they do......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 09:05 AM (Z+IKu)

6 Rosemary Clooney
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM

I didn't know she was green with tentacles. The things you learn on the book thread!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (COzlW)

7 Good morning fellow Book threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (bmdz3)

8 I also love the "askhole" word. You'd think with all these damn phones, people could look up the answers and not bother others.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (U7k5w)

9 Booken morgen has

Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (G546f)

10
Congress is chockablock with askholes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (pNxlR)

11 I didn't know she was green with tentacles. The things you learn on the book thread!
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (COzlW)

She didn't used to be, but she was reincarnated

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (U7k5w)

12 The library of leavin lovin London is full of Brexiters

Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (G546f)

13 Nice video. Has to do with words-if not reading.

https://tinyurl.com/y4vgc8ux

And on a reading note, I am reading "How happiness happens" by former pastor and devotional book author Max Lucado. It's a light, but nice reading with lots of references to Scripture and the Christian life.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (j0JAA)

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I see Biden porn has earned a place at our table.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (pNxlR)

15 Picked up a couple of used non-fiction books.

Berlin 1961 by Frederick Kempe
and
One Hell of a Gamble by Aleksandr Fursenko and Timothy Naftali


Two of my favorite Cold War subjects. Berlin post WWII and the Cuban Missle Crisis.

Can't decide which to read first!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 09:08 AM (1GAHG)

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Have been reading a new author and series by Michael Manning, the Mage Born series. It has been a good one and someone to definitely follow. I am now on the 4th book in the series.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

17 Those pants are fine. I would wear them to CC a crossbow to a barbeque in my back yard.

Posted by: Daktari at October 20, 2019 09:08 AM (Tnijr)

18 What's that 19th Century chick reading?!

Ann Radcliffe?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

19 i wonder if Rosemary and her sister were commie-loving mouth breathers like George is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 09:11 AM (1GAHG)

20 I just downloaded the free sample of Skyhook.

Maybe this week I'll stick to reading kiddie lit to the grandsons.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:11 AM (U7k5w)

21 I know I probably shouldn't, but I laughed at the picture of Hitler on a sled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2019 09:12 AM (j0JAA)

22 19
i wonder if Rosemary and her sister were commie-loving mouth breathers like George is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 09:11 AM (1GAHG)

Rosemary Cloony was find until her son died and then she wound up going off the deep end. She gained so much weight it took 10 pallbearers to carry her coffin at the funeral.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

23 find = fine

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

24 I read Alas, Babylon in Jr. High!

I'm slogging through Cloudsplitter, which is about America's radical abolitionist John Brown through the eyes of his son, Owen. The writing captures the painstaking style from the 19th Century (2-3x too verbose). It helps me go to sleep...

Posted by: scrood at October 20, 2019 09:14 AM (V2Lun)

25 Plan is to read Les Miserables again when winter kicks in. I really love that book.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (wIfek)

26 Reading news: The Spanish Civil War obsession is fading. I'm on my last book: Polikarpov I-15, I-16, and I-153 Aces.

This is one of the Osprey Aces books, and it's a little different from the others since it focuses on an airframe that was in multiple conflicts. A couple of things I've already learned:

Soviet pilots that came back from Spain with lots of kills were treated like heroes (and even named Hero of the Soviet Union) but when the Germans attacked, a lot were used as scapegoats to cover up the crappy state of Soviet airpower. You had guys who were jumped up to general and then shot for treason. Nice place to work.

Other tidbit: Soviet manufacturing was really shoddy. Like so shoddy that wings would fold up without warning. Some of the batches of aircraft (I-16 in particular) were so badly made that the pilots refused to fly them.

Another win for Communist manufacturing!

Still mean to get a copy of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia, but I'd like to case the local used book stores before I go online.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

27 Still reading Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, which is about how insanely complicated our biological makeup is, which leads to the Design Hypothesis.

Just started Consciousness and the Universe: Quantum Physics, Evolution, Brain & Mind, edited by physicist Roger Penrose. Promises to be a difficult and enlightening read.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:16 AM (88cFV)

28 I found a copy of Cinnabar the One O'clock Fox, and some other Marguerite Henry books in the recesses of my home library. Should make nice reading to the boys, who love animal stories.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:17 AM (U7k5w)

29
Montpelier, James Madison's home, was last owned privately by Marion duPont Scott, who had been married to Randolph Scott (yes, THAT Randolph Scott). She was instrumental in establishing the steeplechase racing circuit here in the U.S..

Let's just say that the decor in some rooms, being horsey set focused, did not do the place justice when I visited it in the late 1980s.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:17 AM (pNxlR)

30 I'm reading "Limestones and Marls - Coastal Plain of Georgia." - printed 1916.

Content is kind of dry, unless maybe you want to learn how to make your own lime.

Content aside, I found this at a library old book sale. This book is over 100 years old and I was wondering about the binding. I looks like it could be vinyl but of course it's not. Some kind of fabric I suppose. It's well bound and printed, one of those books that's more fun to look at than read.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 09:17 AM (Tnijr)

31 For those with an interest in U.S. history, Jas. Townsend and Son is having a sale on their 18th century cookbooks and travel journals about the frontier of the time. I have a number of them in paperback and they are well done. I am fascinated with the period. Check the website.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:18 AM (bmdz3)

32 "Like so shoddy that wings would fold up without warning."


Dive mode. Feature not a bug.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (Tnijr)

33 Writing news: Took the first halting steps of writing again after the cardiac event last month. Tough going after a break like that because you lose the mood and the sense of where things are.

On the other hand, I'm not really pushing the plot forward so much as adding detail and additional scenes to fill the story out. So it's kind of like a review. Based on word count, I'm little over halfway there. I've a busy week ahead of me, but after that things are reasonably open.

Plus, the weather is changing, which means I won't get pulled outside as much. Writing is a great way to pass the cold, dark winter in Michigan.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)

34 "So it's the godfather of the post-apocalyptic
science fiction sub-genre."

Yeah. sure.

I'd be happy to discuss it, but I have to go pick up
a pound of pastrami, a can of kraut, and six bagels
to bring home for Emma

Posted by: Al Leibowitz at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cprte)

35 26: My husband's cousin (now 95) married a Spanish Civil War vet who joined the US Army after Franco forced out his kind. He was an anarchist asshole who wanted to be a Basque Hemingway, but failed. His great novel was not translated, so I never read it.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (U7k5w)

36 I read Alas, Babylon in high school. I remember it as a whole book, not a short story. Hmmm. Now I wish I hadn't culled my copy.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (axQWp)

37 I don't always recognize the reading celebrity in the photos but today's was easy. That's what Rosemary Clooney looked like when she made "White Christmas" with Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye, a movie I've seen about 5 gazillion times.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (bmdz3)

38 Dive mode. Feature not a bug.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (Tnijr)

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Surprise dive.

The book says that five pilots were killed by 'wing failure.'

The rest of the pilots held out for inspections and rebuilds before getting into the things.

The next batch had engine defects and what the author calls "defective armament." Presumably the machine guns didn't work, which can make dogfighting extra challenging.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)

39 36
I read Alas, Babylon in high school. I remember it as a whole book, not a short story. Hmmm. Now I wish I hadn't culled my copy.


Posted by: Laura Montgomery at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (axQWp)

Its only 189 pages.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:23 AM (mpXpK)

40 Those sci-fi anthology books that I used to read years ago always seemed to have a story by Ursula K LeGuin, one of the only woman authors usually in them

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2019 09:23 AM (UwZJZ)

41 The next batch had engine defects and what the author calls "defective armament." Presumably the machine guns didn't work, which can make dogfighting extra challenging.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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No wonder the Sovs thought that mid-air ramming was a viable tactic.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (iB1oa)

42 I read a very good book about a little known act of heroism. Lucky 666 is the story of a group of misfits in the south pacific in WWII. On a constantly bombed front line base on Papua New Guinea, the men take a bad luck B17 airframe, tail number 666, rebuild it, and convert it to a photo reconnaissance plane. They add in a couple of dozen extra guns since they don't plan on carrying bombs. One day, they are asked to photograph Bouganville Island, over 600 miles away, to glean information prior to the American invasion. Without spoiling too much of the story, this flight will earn more than one medal of honor and entail the longest running dogfight in US military history.

I wish I could tell Clint Eastwood about this book - what a movie this would make.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (G4pfN)

43 I'm reading _The Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard_, an anthology of, well, what it says on the cover.

When he sticks to Texas folklore and rural horror, Howard's pretty good. But when he tries to stray into Lovecraft territory, the results are almost comical. I say that because Howard couldn't -- I almost think he physically couldn't -- write the kind of neurasthenic, fragile, helpless protagonists Lovecraft used in his stories of humans shattered by encounters with cosmic weirdness.

So Howard trying to write Lovecraft winds up being, basically, ". . . and then the powerfully-built man of pure ancient Celtic stock murdered the fuck out of the tentacled horror. The end."

Entertaining, yes, but not especially spooky.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (DYSh2)

44 What?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (eWeSU)

45 I really enjoyed Alas, Babylon as a high school kid. Not sure if I read it on my own or was assigned to read it in class.

I surmise the latter, based on my memory of my friends and I referring to it sarcastically as "Alice, Bologna".

Great story that was a realistic portrayal of what it would be like to survive after a nuclear war.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:25 AM (88cFV)

46 Yeah, I too read "Alas, Babylon" back in high school ... same stand of hard-re-covered paperbacks by a window where I found "A Canticle For Leibowitz".



LOL, "heavy metal Christian pulp" !

Might read that just because the very idea of it makes me smile.
The Amazon reviews are good, fwiw ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 09:25 AM (bwo3w)

47 Read In Order to Die by Henry Ainley. Published in 1955, it is the memoir of a Britisher that joined the French Foreign Legion to fight Communists in Indochina. The author served in a battalion that provided security services near the Cambodian border from 1951 - 1953. Not as much combat accounts as I was expecting because he was literate, he was used as an acting Company and Battalion Sergeant Major rather than a platoon leader. His experiences thoroughly disillusioned him due to the rampant corruption, alcoholism, cattle-rustling, looting, rape and murder committed by the troops (and condoned by the officers) he served with; it's no wonder France couldn't hold Indochina because they treated all the Vietnamese like trash, even those pre-disposed to remain under French rule. Ultimately, a somewhat interesting worm's-eye view of that war. Rating = 3.9/5.0

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 20, 2019 09:26 AM (5Yee7)

48 So Howard trying to write Lovecraft winds up being,
basically, ". . . and then the powerfully-built man of pure ancient
Celtic stock murdered the fuck out of the tentacled horror. The end."



Entertaining, yes, but not especially spooky.



Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (DYSh2)

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You can see Lovecraft's influence on Howard in some of the later Conan stories.

And yeah, it's like that. The ancient evil rises up, everyone else runs away, wails in fear and Conan walks up and uses his mighty thews of steel to rip the bugger into four pieces, all the while cursing it as a dog.

Then he carries off the babe in the translucent dress.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)

49 Who Dis : Anal surprise Annie.......it was a ghostly nite with Hemmingway @ the tiller..........

Girl reading Franz Ebyl is aboot to go totes rub a dub dub and lose her place in the book.........Fapulous read...

Sorry my pants are at the cleaners don't ask don't smell...................the Belgium Library is roomy preparing for the non brexiters and waffle houseians

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:28 AM (5IHGB)

50 When America Online started calling themselves AOL,
I couldn't unsee "Albertian Order of Leibowitz".

Posted by: retropox, AOL Booklegger at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (cprte)

51 No wonder the Sovs thought that mid-air ramming was a viable tactic.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (iB1oa)

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Yep. They learned it in Spain. It's mentioned in the book.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (cfSRQ)

52 Everyone I Don't Agree With Is A Russian Bot
A child's guide to media and government excuse-making for political failings.

With a Forward Trajectory by Seth Rich

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (Ndje9)

53 By the way, didn't the beastly Hun torch that library in 1914?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:30 AM (DYSh2)

54 Girl reading Franz Ebyl is aboot to go totes rub a dub dub and lose her place in the book.........Fapulous read...


Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:28 AM (5IHGB)

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Ace just texted me to say that picture made his pants feel funny.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

55 Best example of Lovecraft vs. Howard is the Weird Tales round-robin story "The Challenge of the Unknown" which they wrote along with Kuttner and Moore. It's a hoot and a half to watch those four grabbing the steering wheel away from each other.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:32 AM (DYSh2)

56 Reading aloud with your spouse.....priceless!

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 09:32 AM (5aCkc)

57 "I find television to be very educational. Whenever somebody turns one on, I go into another room and read a book."

- Grouch Marx, the only Marxist worth paying attention to because he got the most screen time and Harpo never spoke in their movies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 09:33 AM (HaL55)

58 I read Alas, Babylon in Jr. High!
...
Posted by: scrood at October 20, 2019 09:14 AM (V2Lun)


I also highly recommend Alas, Babylon!. Pat Frank is pretty much forgotten now, but he was good author just not a lot of output (he started out as a crime reporter). The decisions the characters make, both good and bad, generally "ring true."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (5Yee7)

59 With a Forward Trajectory by Seth Rich

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (Ndje9)

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It would have flowed better if he hadn't organized his remarks with bullet points.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (cfSRQ)

60 The Girl Reading brought back a great memory . I'd be in bed reading one of my favorite genre of Vampire, Werewolf, romance novels and my late husband would walk in the room and say"you've got that look on your face". I knew I would be in for a great night. She has that look.

Posted by: Sharon at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (QzF6i)

61 Plus, the weather is changing, which means I won't get pulled outside as much. Writing is a great way to pass the cold, dark winter in Michigan.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)

I always found the Michigan winter to be a productive time and always took an extra course during the winter trimester at MSU, I went when they had that system.

Glad you're recovering.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (U7k5w)

62 And yeah, it's like that. The ancient evil rises up, everyone else runs away, wails in fear and Conan walks up and uses his mighty thews of steel to rip the bugger into four pieces, all the while cursing it as a dog.

Then he carries off the babe in the translucent dress.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)

I saw Translucent Negligee open for Mighty Thews back in 88

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (G546f)

63 "You smell that? Do you smell that?... Books, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of books in the morning."

-Joseph Conrad

Posted by: DC at October 20, 2019 09:35 AM (/TvO8)

64 The week's reading was mostly Linux manuals, stuff that makes dryasdust look positively scintillating ... the light reading was "The Captain From Connecticut" by C. S. Forester.
Strange but true, never read a word of any of his books; dunno why, just never caught me, never picked one up cheap and used, or found one as the only reading matter available when caught bookless, but I hear much talk of him in this thread, so when it came up for 99 cents in some suggestion category on the Kindle, I bought it. Good read. Bought a couple more 99-centers afterwards.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 09:35 AM (bwo3w)

65 1 Rosemary Clooney

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (U7k5w)


Very nice! A first AND a correct guess.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 09:37 AM (jjpZH)

66 Just started reading Molly's book, "Justice on Trial"

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 20, 2019 09:37 AM (F6tBH)

67 When Hillary says "Russian assests", she means America's uranium $upply.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (Ndje9)

68 57 "I find television to be very educational. Whenever somebody turns one on, I go into another room and read a book."

- Grouch Marx, the only Marxist worth paying attention to because he got the most screen time and Harpo never spoke in their movies.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 09:33 AM (HaL55)

This is so true.

When my kids were kids, my husband and I hated TV and insisted they do better things. They thanked us for that as adults. Now, however, he wants to watch some tiresome show nearly every evening. I bought better headphones to cancel it out so I can do other things, but it still irks me that he is becoming Chauncey Gardner.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (U7k5w)

69 Read second book of P.F. Kuang trilogy, The Dragon Republic. Don't like it. Book is reading as some fun fiction by inexperienced author. Main character just annoying, pro-abortion scene does not add anything to story line, anti-western turn of plot. Disappointment. Good thing, I borrow this book in the library and did not pay for it

Posted by: remonkey at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (KL1FG)

70 Any Hillary surrogates show up on the morning shows to defend her incoherent babbling? I refuse to watch them.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (UwZJZ)

71 Finished The Hobbit audio book and started The Fellowship of the Ring both read by Rob Inglis who's very good. Also started The Saxon and Norman Kings by Christopher Brooke. It's a bit dry.

Making note of the Madison bio since I'm trying to read bios of all the presidents.

Alas Babylon was required reading in some classes in my high school, but since I wasn't in any of those classes I've never read it. I should probably try to find a copy.

Posted by: sinalco at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)

72 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (X/Pw5)

73
Very nice! A first AND a correct guess.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 09:37 AM (jjpZH)

Thanks. I did not expect a first, and it looks like an odd way to announce that feat!

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (U7k5w)

74 LOL, retropox, AOL !

Same here.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (bwo3w)

75 I finished a book by Nabokov, Despair, originally written in Russian in the 30s, as part and parcel of reading his two part biography and reading what he wrote chronologically. Strangely enough, although he's still a young man when he wrote this, Ive now read more than 50% of the number of titles he wrote, although some of the later works like Pale Fire and Ada were much longer works.

The book was kind of a slog to get through because it was written by a nutty guy who was writing an after the fact account of committing a perfect crime of insurance fraud by killing this deadbeat guy who he thought looked exactly like him and then running off and assuming his identity after which his wife would join him, after collecting the death benefit, and they'd be rich and happy together. Except nobody thought the other guy looked that much like him, including the other guy; as soon as the cops found the stiff with all the murderers IDs on him they knew it wasn't him. The murderers car was run off with by whoever came across it and when the cops finally found it, it had the dead guy's walking stick in it with his name embossed on it so his "perfect crime" turned to shit. The title is what he was feeling when he finally realized that.

It's too bad Nabokov isn't still around and with a website where you could ask him questions about this book. For starters this had plenty of Dostoyevskian elements throughout it (the main character even refers to "Old Dusty" at one point) and Nabokov badmouthed Fyodor's writing brutally in his Lectures on Russian Literature. Part of that might have been class based because he considered Dostoyevsky a lowlife who often wrote hurriedly to pay off gambling debts. But he also criticized what he thought were half assed Freudian elements so who knows. Also I've mentioned before that Nabokov uses very imaginative descriptions of the settings of his characters. Welp those are present here as described by the main character except they're clunky and awkward. So I'd like to ask him that too.

Even though I don't consider this in his top tier of books it's stayed in my mind a lot longer than an inferior book would. Writing from the perspective of a loon (his wife was obviously banging an artist friend who he thought she couldn't stand) is as old as Don Quixote, about which Vlad wrote a book of lecture notes, and this was subsequently done in Pale Fire. I just don't feel he pulled it off that successfully.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

76 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (arJlL)

77 I'd be happy to discuss it, but I have to go pick up a pound of pastrami, a can of kraut, and six bagels to bring home for Emma

Posted by: Al Leibowitz


Heh.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (88cFV)

78 *delurk*
It may amuse the denizens here to know that Kris Rusch originally wanted to title "Women of Futures Past" as "The Women that Women Forget".
*relurk*

Posted by: CMB at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (7yxtP)

79 Crap. Here, take this letter "O" and put it in my previous comment. Anywhere will be fine.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (HaL55)

80 University Library of Leuven-Louvain, Belgium

Are all the books in Belgish ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (arJlL)

81 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

I love Rosemary Clooney. I don't care for what her voice became after she had her nervous breakdown, though. And let me recommend three albums of hers for your listening pleasure - Rosie Solves the Swinging Ridddle, Clap Hands! Here Comes Rosie! and her duet album with Der Bingle, Fancy Meeting You Here.

Speaking of "infamous scribblers," that's the title of a book about the Founders and their antagonistic relations with the worthless Fourth Estate:

https://tinyurl.com/yyuru5og

And I know I've recommended The Annotated HP Lovecraft here before. There's now a new companion volume, Beyond Arkham:

https://tinyurl.com/y3mjb4gq

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (Ki5SV)

82 I really splurged this week and ordered an unabridged audio CD of the LOTR. It is read by Robert Inglis. I played some of the first disc and I'm impressed. This isn't the dramatized version by the BBC, which I find somewhat distracting with the background music and sound effects.

So far, Inglis' narration is clear, varied by character, and pleasant. Also, his pace of reading makes me think this is how Tolkien would do it, based on a few examples of him in interviews I've found.

I don't use audio books often. But I so enjoyed Gary Sinise reading "Travels With Charley" and the audio of "Master and Commander" by Simon Vance. I've re-read LOTR annually for over fifty years and almost don't need my eyes to see the words on the page. But the audio of the books above gave added insight with the reader's delivery. I thought it would be worth a try with LOTR.

Anyone else try this approach with books they are thoroughly familiar with? Did it add to your enjoyment?

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (bmdz3)

83 Good morning all ... that library had the misfortune to have been destroyed twice over - in both world wars.
http://libraryhistorybuff.com/louvain.htm
The first time around, it was seen as a deliberate attempt by the invading Germans to destroy all memory of Belgian history and culture. It was rebuilt with extensive donations of money and books from England and America ... just in time to be bombed in the second war.

For myself, work proceeding on the next book, and some discussion with my co-author on the next Luna City installment. We're getting ready for the Christmas marketing season, so November and December will be very busy months for us...

We had a market yesterday, on the grounds of a local community college, and I read nearly all of Kurt Schlicter's "Indian Country". It's a book that is almost too ultra-violent for my taste, but since it concerns all-out guerrilla warfare, that's baked-in. It's redeemed by a lot of bitter humor, regarding social-justice strictures being taken to their logical ultimate extent. (Like the differentially-abled airline pilot. Who is blind...)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (xnmPy)

84 Bigunjames..........period..........

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (5aCkc)

85 Glad you're recovering.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (U7k5w)

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Thanks. I've been feeling pretty good of late. Lost some weight and I'm sleeping longer.

My freshman year was the last year MSU did the old system. After that it was semesters. I enjoyed the solid month off in December-January.

One of the challenges I'm dealing with is that my vampire story was started more than a decade ago and a lot has changed in Michigan. Smart phones, social media, cameras everywhere - all that imposed changes on the narrative.

Also the disappearance of CDs. Little things like that. Makes me feel old.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (cfSRQ)

86 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?
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"Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)

87
34 "So it's the godfather of the post-apocalyptic
science fiction sub-genre."

Yeah. sure.

I'd be happy to discuss it, but I have to go pick up
a pound of pastrami, a can of kraut, and six bagels
to bring home for Emma

Posted by: Al Leibowitz at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cprte)

******

It's been over 40 years since I read "Canticle". I may still have a copy in a box up in the attic. I have a few boxes I haven't gone through since we moved here 17 years ago.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (NqQAS)

88 I finished the history of the Missouri synod last week. I really loved it, I will have to write some lectures on a it.

Read a novel called Throne of Glass recommend by my cousin easy read but to girl power for me.

Starting the last 3 Fritz Lieberman books now.

Posted by: Dread0 at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (thwGF)

89 Every day is period day on the book thread.

Posted by: . at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Tnijr)

90 I've hurt my right shoulder, so typing is painful. But I have to say the Skyhook book looks interesting, though far beyond the capacity my wallet. I note "Look Inside" doesn't include the index in the Kindle version, but does under Hardcover. That's useful. Also the bibliography has SIX works cited by British PM, Balfour.

Reading through section one, it does seem promising, especially the following Epicurus section.

A key question is one of an ambiguity in words like "cause" or "determine". There is a clear distinction between the physical efficient cause of something, and (for a belief) its rational grounds. If I err in reasoning, it doesn't mean that the laws of physics or chemistry were violated in my brain. They are running on as usual. It is my reasoning which is at fault.

I do object to one thing: the use of the PC Feminine. It's just a distraction, this current use of "she" where English has always used "he". The problem isn't really a question of why one does so, rather it's simply that it breaks the flow of reading, which in a work of this sort is a problem. I suppose it's just a matter of today's academic nonsense. It may seem natural in that context; to the rest of the world, comes across like confusing which of the "two/too/to" family one uses.

I'm surprised to see no entry for "intentionality". I'd have thought that would be relevant.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (ZbwAu)

91 "Fathers and Sons: the Autobiography of a Family," by Alexander Waugh.

Evelyn's grandson. Fourth generation man of letters, & guess what? He can WRITE.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

92
My calendar just reminded me that I have to set out for Sussex County in order to begin closing up for the winter months. BBL ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:44 AM (pNxlR)

93 'Girl Reading', Franz Ebyl, 1850

They had those rubber band wrist thingies in 1850 ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:45 AM (arJlL)

94 Alas Babylon was required reading in some classes in my high school, but since I wasn't in any of those classes I've never read it. I should probably try to find a copy.
Posted by: sinalco at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)


Mucho paperbacks out there for cheap. If you want a hardback 1st ed; that's going to set you back at bit. I paid about $45 for mine without the jacket but Facsimile Dust Jackets (great site, by the way) has high-quality reproduction jackets for $22 plus shipping.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 20, 2019 09:45 AM (5Yee7)

95 Rosemary Clooney !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (arJlL)

96 Reading aloud with your spouse:

are PANTS optional in this situation

"and he ripped off her bodice while her heaving breasts turned on the pages and him too as the turgid
text demanded a deeper meaning than mere lust,it was a hard read she screamed as they read to the twins at bedtime..................... to be continued fer sure......"

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (5IHGB)

97 "Still mean to get a copy of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

A great book! Orwell loved the taste of "true socialism" that he got in Spain, which is sort of confusing in light of his other more famous books.

But the dude could write.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wYseH)

98 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?
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"Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)


The pains of Eve; the Curse; 28 day nosebleed; riding the rag; that time of the month...

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (y7DUB)

99 One other point. After reading a bunch of unsatisfactory mysteries I decided to play it safe and read a Perry Mason. This was the Drowning Duck.

An interesting point I noted. It was published in 1942. In it, both Perry and the judge have to ask "What's a detergent?"

It also make explicit what is implied in both the books and the show: Paul Drake's office is in the same building and on the same floor as Perry's. Since Mason is a high-priced lawyer, and his office is fairly posh (again, true both on the screen and on the page), that sounds pricey for a PI.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (ZbwAu)

100 "Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y3qe7ccr

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (X/Pw5)

101 Sussex County...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:44 AM (pNxlR)

New Jersey or England?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (wYseH)

102 91
"Fathers and Sons: the Autobiography of a Family," by Alexander Waugh.



Evelyn's grandson. Fourth generation man of letters, guess what? He can WRITE.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

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Great book. There was a companion show for it on Youtube that was quite good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:49 AM (cfSRQ)

103 So this week I have been reading Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl) and the CIA (furious at Nixon's attempts at détente). Al Haig also stars as the conniver who more or less escorts Nixon out of the White House in order to gain more power for himself.

The problem with the book is that it is plagued on nearly every page with misspellings, grammatical errors and bad proofing, which make the book read like someone's self-published opus rather than a dispassionate look at Nixon, and for that reason, I can see why the book got such bad reviews when it came out.

I'm also slowly making my way through Steven Ambrose's one-volume bio of Eisenhower, which is a very good read that I recommend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (Ki5SV)

104 Time to take down the tampon tree.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (X/Pw5)

105 The rain finally let up enough for me to go out to get some bread for lunch sandwiches. But too late now so I'll heve to get something else.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (mpXpK)

106 66 Eisenhorn

I read "Justice On Trial" too. Admired the journalism; hated what I read.

I don't EVER want anybody telling me that political discord right now is really no worse than it has been in the past, blah blah blah.

We're in uncharted waters. Don't tell me about 1968! I was there, & this is far worse.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (Cssks)

107 Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (X/Pw5)
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Gah.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (iB1oa)

108 A great book! Orwell loved the taste of "true
socialism" that he got in Spain, which is sort of confusing in light of
his other more famous books.

But the dude could write.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wYseH)

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I've read it before, but didn't fully understand what was going on.

Now that I've been fully immersed and know the difference between POUM, FAI, CNT, etc., it will make more sense.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:51 AM (cfSRQ)

109 " 'Women of Futures Past' edited by Kristine Kathryn Rusch." But... But... But everyone knows women weren't allowed to write science fiction until Margaret Atwood!

Posted by: RNB at October 20, 2019 09:51 AM (DjjZJ)

110 Prolly don't wanna read Alas Babylon if you live in the Tampa-St. Pete area...too close to home, in a literal sorta way.

Good book, though. HS assignment was probably why we had it in the house for me to find. I read it in Jr. High, but all my sibs are older.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 20, 2019 09:52 AM (XuBZu)

111 The pains of Eve; the Curse; 28 day nosebleed; riding the rag; that time of the month...

Posted by: Captain Hate


Ridin' the Cotton Pony

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:52 AM (88cFV)

112 Rosemary Cloony was find until her son died and then she wound up going off the deep end. She gained so much weight it took 10 pallbearers to carry her coffin at the funeral.

After they put her in the coffin, did they have to jump up and down on her to maker her fit ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:52 AM (arJlL)

113 which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl)

Ol' Yeller despises Dean as a disbarred felonious piece of lying human garbage. Is there any wonder CNN worships him?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:53 AM (y7DUB)

114 I am also at this moment staring at a pile of notebooks on my desk, reminding me that I should be working on my own damned book.

Were any of you around for the movie thread last night? That was the longest and only piece of writing I have done in over a month.

As Teh Donald would say, "Sad!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Ki5SV)

115

The library seems cold........they lost that Leuven feeling.

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (5IHGB)

116 I know I probably shouldn't, but I laughed at the picture of Hitler on a sled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Wait til ya see Mussolini on a Vespa.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (arJlL)

117 71 I should probably try to find a copy.

Posted by: sinalco at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)


It is available for the Kindle from Amazon for 3.99.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (mpXpK)

118 The library seems cold........they lost that Leuven feeling.
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*throws tomato*

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (iB1oa)

119 One of the challenges I'm dealing with is that my vampire story was started more than a decade ago and a lot has changed in Michigan. Smart phones, social media, cameras everywhere - all that imposed changes on the narrative.

Also the disappearance of CDs. Little things like that. Makes me feel old.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (cfSRQ)

Make it a "period piece" and set it pre-cell phone. If there's a danger element, the lack of ability to capture the event on camera or call 911 will work better anyway. Can you imagine how most literature would suffer if the damsel in distress could grab her phone?

I was long away from MSU, but we had a professor friend from the English department who spent many holidays with us in NJ. He loved going into NYC for the theater, and we were cheaper than any hotel. Plus, we loved having him stay a week here and there. He hated the semester system and believed that the trimester was one of MSU's attractions. One could explore more subjects in 12 sessions than in 8. The work load could be a little stressful, but I agreed generally. The trimester allowed me to vary my subject matter as I was able to take more electives with 48 courses (based on a 4 course trimester) than with 32. It was nice to break up the required courses with forays into literature and history.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (U7k5w)

120 I have just finished reading Bess of Hardwick: Empire Builder. What a fascinating lady. One of the few high ranking Tudor ladies who survived the wrath of Good Queen Bess multiple times

Posted by: Jmel at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (OeWgo)

121 Pat Frank also wrote "Hold Back the Night", a novel about a Marine Company Commander during the retreat from the Chosin Reservoir. Very good.

This week I also re-read "On Valor's Side" by T. Grady Gallant, a memoir of his recruit training at Parris Island just before Pearl Harbor and his service with the Old Breed on Guadalcanal.
Even though his boot camp experiences were some 30 years before mine, it brought back a lot of memories. I never knew until much later that the DIs would get together after the training day was over and laugh about the seemingly insane sh*t their platoons would pull.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 20, 2019 09:56 AM (wZ9cV)

122 Wait til ya see Mussolini on a Vespa.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (arJlL)
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Tojo on a tricycle?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:56 AM (iB1oa)

123 These are the Daves I know.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/luuzqc9

Posted by: Dave at October 20, 2019 09:57 AM (/bvAs)

124 MP4 I missed the movie thread - gonna go read it now

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 09:57 AM (G546f)

125 Stalin on a Pogo stick

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2019 09:58 AM (UwZJZ)

126 How did I celebrate period day Bloody Caesars for 5 days straight......................we need this holiday weekly..........

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:58 AM (5IHGB)

127 Been reading the 3rd volume about the war in the Pacific, Flood Tide. Really enjoying them.

A question for any navel personnel out there: do modern carriers have to "turn into the wind" to launch and recover? Just curious.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (VNfwt)

128 Beto O'Rourke Announces Support for Menstrual Equity Act on National Period Day


Of course he does......................

Via insty.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (5aCkc)

129 Alas Babylon. My wife caught me hoarding salt shortly after we were married. Funny now but book made a lasting impression on a 16 yr boy. Haven't thought about it in a while. Hahaha

Posted by: NativeNH at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (dtRY5)

130 Make it a "period piece" and set it pre-cell phone.
If there's a danger element, the lack of ability to capture the event on
camera or call 911 will work better anyway. Can you imagine how most
literature would suffer if the damsel in distress could grab her phone?


Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (U7k5w)

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Too late now...

Maybe in a prequel.

RE: Higher ed, it's garbage. I don't want any of my kids to get a college education because it's worthless. I'm pushing them to applied degrees/certifications.

The switch to semesters culled a lot of classes and then PC culture started creating cookie-cut mandatory indoctrination classes in place of the varied electives that counted for other stuff.

For example, instead of picking from a list of humanities or arts classes, they made Integrated Arts and Humanities 201, which everyone had to take.

And of course now even the profs are afraid to teach lest they get reported for wrongthink.

Very sad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ)

131 97 "Still mean to get a copy of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

A great book! Orwell loved the taste of "true socialism" that he got in Spain, which is sort of confusing in light of his other more famous books.

But the dude could write.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wYseH)
________

We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist. It really comes out if you read the 4 vol set of essays his wife edited. For instance, he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in fact. And he did read and review Road to Serfdom; giving that as a reason he didn't buy Hayek's argument.

Here's the review:

https://maudestavern.com/2008/10/09/ george-orwell-review/

(Remove space.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

132 I bought three books from the bargain bin not long ago.

Art of War, The Federalist and The Prince with other writings of Machiavelli.

I've just finished the Art of War. Trying to decide which to read next .

What we want , The Federalist or what you eventually get, The Prince.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (2DOZq)

133 Good morning Book Horde! I'm going through my stuff, doing a little fall cleaning & have some books to de-access:
"Russian Warships in the Age of Sail" by John Tredrea & Eduard Sozaen
"Destroyer Weapons of World War 2" by Peter Hodges
"The Army's Navy Series Volume II: Assault and Logistics Union Army Coastal and River Operations 1861-1865" and "Over Seas: U.S. Army Maritime Operations 1898 Through the Fall of The Philippines", bith by Charles Dana Gibson & E. Kay Gibson
"General Monck" by Maurice Ashley
"Our First Revolution: The Remarkable British Upheaval that Inspired America's Founding Fathers" by Michael Barone
"A History of Britain Volume II: The Wars of The British 1603-1776" by Simon Schama
Several volumes of "The Journal of Military History" ca. 2006-2009.

Any Morons interested in these books let me know

Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Izzlo)

134 Here's some Rosie and Bing - the title track from Fancy Meeting You Here.

https://tinyurl.com/y3bj9xm5

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Ki5SV)

135 Aunt Flo pays a visit.

Posted by: JAS at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (DBGf/)

136 According to Granny, the whole world is full of Russian assets--except the Downtown Moscow branch of Putin Savings & Loan where Bill gives half-million dollar speeches.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 10:03 AM (Ndje9)

137 In the early days of WWI, the Germans burned the midieval library of Louvain as a reprisal for a quite possibly imaginary attack on them by civilians.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

138 "Homage to Catalonia" is a fascinating book, but requires historical context, or else... what the hell?

Orwell wasn't there very long-- a few months. First he got shot-- in comparison to his Spanish comrades, he was so tall that he must've been a sniper's wet dream.

Then, he came VERY close to getting arrested, & perhaps executed, by the NKVD. Maybe his British passport would have saved his life, but who knows?

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 10:04 AM (Cssks)

139 "Earth abides " by Steward ( I think) was another good read

Posted by: NativeNH at October 20, 2019 10:05 AM (dtRY5)

140 I've reached the point in A People's Tragedy where Figes describes how Lenin has unleashed The Terror with the Cheka sadistically torturing and killing everyone who stimulated their ire. Killing the Romanovs was a no brainer but carried out as ineptly as possible. But this was probably the first time the general population realized how fucked up these assholes were in charge. Lenin said it was better if 100 innocent people suffered than one guilty person go free. Anyone who says things only turned to shit under Stalin are lying tools.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

141 I wonder if -- after Animal Farm and 1984 -- anything bad happened to the NKVD officers who let Orwell get out of Spain alive?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:07 AM (DYSh2)

142 Were any of you around for the movie thread last night? That was the longest and only piece of writing I have done in over a month.

As Teh Donald would say, "Sad!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Ki5SV)
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I would say: writing is writing and it was great to read something so erudite.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 10:07 AM (WEBkv)

143 Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

Britain's King George royally screwed his cousin. Pun intended.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:08 AM (2DOZq)

144 There was a whole genre of YA postapocalyptic novels in the 1970s and 1980s. Were publishers pushing the idea that "Nuclear stuff is bad, m'kay?" to the kiddies, or was it just that it was in the air at the time?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (DYSh2)

145 Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Izzlo)
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I'm interested in several of those books.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (iB1oa)

146 Now that I've been fully immersed and know the difference between POUM, FAI, CNT, etc., it will make more sense.

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Splitters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (+y/Ru)

147 49 brexiters and waffle houseians
Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:28 AM (5IHGB)

heh

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 10:11 AM (GJ5tO)

148 Nazi Pelousi on a unicycle.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 10:11 AM (HaL55)

149 I am rereading The Mauritius Command right now, as I somehow began reading the O'Brian series in order again, but I stopped to read a pdf short story my brother sent me, called "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson (linked below, if you're interested).


It is a reprint of a story she published in the New Yorker in 1948, concerning a New England sounding village that holds a lottery every year, whose "winner" is put to death so to make the harvest bountiful. It is a well done story and incredibly disturbing; the difference between civilization and barbarism may not be as large as people hope.


https://tinyurl.com/ybtuhlbo

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (NVYyb)

150 We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist..For instance, he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in fact.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)


Of course, we all know that's nonsense.

Posted by: Google at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (jjpZH)

151 I would say: writing is writing and it was great to read something so erudite.
Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 10:07 AM (WEBkv)


Thank you. You're very kind.

Someone on that thread mentioned Nosferatu, which I shall have to do one day. Not just because it is - using a word I hate - an iconic film, but because we are incredibly lucky to have it at all.

As almost everyone knows, Nosferatu is Dracula set entirely in Eastern Europe. Instead of Count Dracula, we have Count Orlok. Instead of Jonathan Harker, Thomas Hutter, and so on. It's so obviously stolen that Bram Stoker's widow sued for copyright infringement and won, the verdict being that all copies of Nosferatu were to be destroyed. Fortunately, one copy (not the master negative, however), survived and it is from that copy that all other copies were made, which explains why many public domain versions are of such poor quality.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (Ki5SV)

152 So this week I have been reading Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl) and the CIA (furious at Nixon's attempts at detente). Al Haig also stars as the conniver who more or less escorts Nixon out of the White House in order to gain more power for himself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

If you find Stone's premise interesting, you may wish to read
Silent Coup, by Len Kolodny

When G. Gordon Liddy had a radio show, he would periodically have Kolodny on to talk about Watergate and all that, and push the book. This was Liddy's theory about what happened, as he actually didn't know what was going on around him when he was involved. Well, he came to know later, of course.

And yes, John Dean is a real shit-weasel.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (hVpH7)

153 In Herodotus I've reached the point where Xerxes is bearing down on Greece and a lot of people are saying we preemptively surrender rather than being wiped out. Xerxes, at least how he's portrayed, would often seem weirdly benevolent toward people you'd think he'd be prone to crushing; but that's not exactly a good way to live.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

154 144 There was a whole genre of YA postapocalyptic novels in the 1970s and 1980s. Were publishers pushing the idea that "Nuclear stuff is bad, m'kay?" to the kiddies, or was it just that it was in the air at the time?
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (DYSh2)


Yes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (jjpZH)

155 I wanna know what book that girl was reading.

rawr

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (ZLI7S)

156 Orwell ended up serving in the POUM by mistake if I remember right.

He went to Spain as part of the ILP volunteers which were assigned to the POUM militias. Orwell mentioned in his book that he wanted to transfer to the main Commie command in Madrid but he never was able to get it done.

So he came to being a POUM outlaw after the Commie crackdown by mistake or things may have turned out quite differently.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (Z+IKu)

157 Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl)

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That is the basic theme of Len Colodny's Silent Coup which G. Gordon Liddy thinks is the true story.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)

158 The post-apocalyptic book that made a big impression on early me was Nevil Shute's book "On The Beach", which was originally called "The Last Days On Earth". It still is a chilling thought.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (NVYyb)

159 The partisanship or "factionalism" of the Founders was inevitable after the unity of purpose of the Revolution had been accomplished.

Jefferson was more vehement on media bias than any of them. Also on judicial tyranny.

Americans today are more propagandized than Soviet citizens in the Cold War.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (Ndje9)

160 We have a lot of stuff, music, educational materials, and books on CD, so this move away from them and their players is a concern. We've been getting backups for the players. There's no way we could replace it all with streaming versions, even assuming we wanted to spend the money for the service and storage.

And it is one more example, of too damn many, of not having physical control over property. I can't be the only one who resents this constant and ever faster obsolescence.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (bmdz3)

161 Faded Page has Alas Babylon and Pat Frank's other novels for free, but cautions they are "books in the Canadian public domain, which may be under copyright in other countries. If you live outside Canada, check your country's copyright laws before downloading or accessing the files."
https://www.fadedpage.com/csearch.php?author=Frank,%20Harry%20Hart

An yes, he was a good, commonsense writer.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (1vSH9)

162 Britain's King George royally screwed his cousin. Pun intended.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:08 AM (2DOZq)


Figes in a footnote is pretty scathing about that bit of betrayal.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:17 AM (y7DUB)

163 Been reading the 3rd volume about the war in the Pacific, Flood Tide. Really enjoying them.

A question for any navel personnel out there: do modern carriers have to "turn into the wind" to launch and recover? Just curious.

Posted by: Blutarski


Yes, I also read "The Navy at Flood Tide" last year. Very good book.

And not a Navy guy at all, but yes, they still turn into the wind to get lift on the planes at launching from catapults.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2019 10:18 AM (hVpH7)

164 145 Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Izzlo)
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I'm interested in several of those books.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (iB1oa)

My email should be in my nic

Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:21 AM (Izzlo)

165 136
According to Granny, the whole world is full of Russian assets--except
the Downtown Moscow branch of Putin Savings Loan where Bill gives
half-million dollar speeches.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 10:03 AM (Ndje9)


I saw Secret Russian Assets open for Pussy Riot in Red Square in 98.

Posted by: Spetnaz Pee Whores at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (9dzlp)

166 reading MP4's interesting Haxan review reminded me - I kinda wanna make one of those online quizzes - it would be "What kind of serial killer are you?"

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (G546f)

167 That is the basic theme of Len Colodny's Silent Coup which G. Gordon Liddy thinks is the true story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)


IIRC. Liddy talked about a break in at a Republican office a year or so before Watergate. Either I dreamt that or it has been scrubbed from the interwebs.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (2DOZq)

168 Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl)

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That is the basic theme of Len Colodny's Silent Coup which G. Gordon Liddy thinks is the true story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)


Stone references Silent Coup quite a bit, and I will have to get around to reading that some day. And somewhere in the bowels of Stately Poppins Manor I have Liddy's autograph.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (Ki5SV)

169 144 ... " There was a whole genre of YA postapocalyptic novels in the 1970s and 1980s. Were publishers pushing the idea that "Nuclear stuff is bad, m'kay?" to the kiddies, or was it just that it was in the air at the time?"

I wasn't reading YA stuff in the 70s and 80s but it sounds like "you can't trust adults and their values". (Western values). Sort of an intensification of "don't trust anyone over thirty" from the Hippies.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (bmdz3)

170 161
Faded Page has Alas Babylon and Pat Frank's other novels for free, but
cautions they are "books in the Canadian public domain, which may be
under copyright in other countries. If you live outside Canada, check
your country's copyright laws before downloading or accessing the
files."

https://www.fadedpage.com/csearch.php?author=Frank,%20Harry%20Hart



An yes, he was a good, commonsense writer.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (1vSH9)

Gutenberg has it for free too and in fact I downloaded it from them originally. But I never could figure out how to get in on my Fire HD10 so I could read it. So I did what Amazon wanted with their new HD10, I bought it from them and let their service load it for me.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 10:23 AM (mpXpK)

171 I remember Alas Babylon, and the tag line at the end from some General who's asked what it means now we've lost a nuclear war. The General famously says "But we Won!!!"

The first post-apocalyptic book that really grabbed me was Daybreak - 2250 AD (also called Star Man's Son) Loved the cover art - originally published in 1952.

https://tinyurl.com/y4z9qhut

A lot of people have noticed that this one feels like the godfather of Thundar the Barbarian and that genre. I loved the passages of the young savage exploring the ancient ruins of the mysterious sckyscrapers, and wondering how humans could ever have lived in such things.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 10:24 AM (V2Yro)

172 Tom Servo, remember reading a lot of Andre Norton as a kid, not that one though

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:25 AM (G546f)

173 "Death In Yellowstone"
Non-fiction, Lee H. Whittlesey

A collection of incidents at Yellowstone National Park that led to unfortunate deaths. Mostly involving being scalded after falling in to boiling pools. Heartbreaking reading, truly, especially those stories about parents with young children who got away from them quickly, and fell in. Just a few seconds in the hot spring can render 2nd and 3rd degree burns, and once you have those on 70% or so of your body, not much to be done, death can be agonizing, slow and certain.
Cheery stuff.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (w7KSn)

174 IIRC. Liddy talked about a break in at a Republican office a year or so before Watergate. Either I dreamt that or it has been scrubbed from the interwebs.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (2DOZq)


I'm sure it happened. When I first heard about Watergate it struck me as something LBJ, and his shithead operatives like Bill Moyers, routinely did.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

175 Everyone brags about Lucifer's Hammer but I can't get started. Read the first couple of chapters at least 3x .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

176 Maybe I should change it to a "What kind of violent offender are you" online quiz... hmmm

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:27 AM (G546f)

177 149 I am rereading The Mauritius Command right now, as I somehow began reading the O'Brian series in order again, but I stopped to read a pdf short story my brother sent me, called "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson (linked below, if you're interested).


It is a reprint of a story she published in the New Yorker in 1948, concerning a New England sounding village that holds a lottery every year, whose "winner" is put to death so to make the harvest bountiful. It is a well done story and incredibly disturbing; the difference between civilization and barbarism may not be as large as people hope.


https://tinyurl.com/ybtuhlbo
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (NVYyb)
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1. IMO, Mauritius Command is the best of the lot, and I love the whole Aubrey series. It is also very accurate as a portrayal of the battle. Just change a few names. Lord Clonfert is entirely made up, and of course, Maturin. The rest is spot on. (Jack Aubrey = Josias Rawley, the actual commander.)

2. We read The Lottery in HS, back in the 60s, in NY. My teacher completely missed on the pagan sacrifice aspect. My wife, OTOH, went to school in rural VA. Her teacher missed it too, but she says one of the guys asked "Were they having a drought that year?" Blew her teacher's mind.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:28 AM (ZbwAu)

178 Leigh Brackett started her file career writing on the screenplay for The Maltese Falcon, and ended with The Empire Strikes Back.
I knew her by reading her The Ginger Star trilogy which is about her principal protagonist, John Eric Stark, and his travels across the dying planet Skaith and its adapted and bred natives.

The Ginger Sun books are pretty much Barsoom books in world building, Skaith is a dying planet who's sun grows colder every century, and its seas have been drying up. It is a world of narrow tropical equatorial lands and seas, broad dry plains and frigid poles and mountains. The inhabitants are mostly like humans, and are slipping into barbarism from a high technological culture that had great abilities to shape themselves and other species to fit ecological niches: all of whom in their separate ecological roles become other than what they were. They mostly standard Skaith cultures go from the florid and corrupt states around the equatorial seas to the steppe nomads who have become fully raiding barbarians. All of whom kill strangers.

The modified Skaithians go from the ocean adapted ones who have devolved to become cannibals preying on the land-walkers who they butcher and eat in rites in ruined temples dedicated to the goddess of the sea, to the ones that live sealed away in caverns below the mountains who devote themselves to study of the ancient technology. The modified animals include the psychic hounds that kill by projecting their thoughts of terror and loss on their victims.

Stark was raised by the ape-like natives on Mercury, where he was orphaned and lost as an infant, where he learned to become tough and resilient as a child, and inured to deprivation, thirst and pain. He was taught to be human by an explorer, Clark Ashton, a great souled man who he considers his father. Stark went to Skaith to be part of the work to try to move some of the Skaith population to a world that was not doomed. He became separated from the embassy and had to travel across Skaith to be rescued. The Trilogy is about his travels across Skaith to rescue himself.

Link in my nick

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 10:29 AM (xG/b0)

179 btw:

a few minutes ago it was 10/20/10:20

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:29 AM (Pg+x7)

180 I just finished "Throne of Bones" by Vox, the first in the Arts of Dark and Light series.

It was hard getting into at first. It reads as a alt-history of the roman legion in the beginning but then picks up speed. A sword and sorcery genre with the requisite dwarves, elves, wizards, etc... but in a more realistic setting revolving around a proxy for Rome and the Catholic Church. Intrigue in the Senate and the church magisterium, vassal states rebelling all while an evil menace rises.

I liked it enough to get the next in the series.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 20, 2019 10:29 AM (l6b3d)

181 "file career" should be film career

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 10:30 AM (xG/b0)

182 ... one more chance tonight for the last 10/20/10:20.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Pg+x7)

183 OK, it's time for some tea and perhaps writing. Or a nap. Or a day drinking into insensibility. Who knows?

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Ki5SV)

184 And of course now even the profs are afraid to teach lest they get reported for wrongthink.

Very sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:31 AM (U7k5w)

185 I'm reading _The Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard_, an anthology of, well, what it says on the cover.

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I've been watching Thriller with Boris Karloff on MeTV, a horror anthology series, and quite enjoying it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:32 AM (+y/Ru)

186 Everyone brags about Lucifer's Hammer but I can't get started. Read the first couple of chapters at least 3x .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

I got through it, but it was a bit of a slog, mostly because the writing was sophomoric. It's a nice idea, executed not too well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 10:32 AM (wYseH)

187 ... 10-22.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (Pg+x7)

188 My email should be in my nic

When ya click da link, ya get a 404 not found

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (arJlL)

189 I've been watching Thriller with Boris Karloff on MeTV, a horror anthology series, and quite enjoying it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

It was available on Prime, not sure if it still is. Also available is One Step Beyond, a true supernatural series on about the same time as the original Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (VNfwt)

190 150 We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist..For instance, he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in fact.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

Of course, we all know that's nonsense.
Posted by: Google at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (jjpZH)
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IMO, the free markets of classic economics are like the frictionless universe of classical physics. Instructive, and a model which tells a lot of truth, but ultimately unreal.

Even if we had Rothbard, Friedman, and Hayek write up a constitution and laws for the republic, there'd still be crooked enforcers, and crooked companies subverting it.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:34 AM (ZbwAu)

191 I got through it, but it was a bit of a slog, mostly because the writing was sophomoric. It's a nice idea, executed not too well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 10:32 AM (wYseH)

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Read it way back in my youth and really liked it.

But, again, yout's aren't necessarily the most discerning when it comes to writing.

Though, even at a yout, the book definitely came under the heading of, "Read it once, that's good enough" category.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 10:35 AM (WEBkv)

192 I wasn't reading YA stuff in the 70s and 80s but it
sounds like "you can't trust adults and their values". (Western values).
Sort of an intensification of "don't trust anyone over thirty" from the
Hippies.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (bmdz3)

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It's funny how currents in the popular culture can pass you right by. I didn't read sci-fi or fantasy growing up, moving directly into military history from Dr. Seuss. At first I liked the big picture books and would read the photo captions, then I'd get into the text.

The Flying Tigers was one of my first paperbacks (bought through the school book sale - imagine that today!) and that got me hooked on pilots - Fly for Your Life, Reach for the Sky, To War in a Stringbag, The Dam Busters, etc.

Kinda missed the YA genre entirely.

I remember in high school a bunch of the girls toting around V.C. Andrews' Flowers in the Attic and giggling about it, but they wouldn't tell us guys what was in it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:37 AM (cfSRQ)

193 189 I've been watching Thriller with Boris Karloff on MeTV, a horror anthology series, and quite enjoying it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

It was available on Prime, not sure if it still is. Also available is One Step Beyond, a true supernatural series on about the same time as the original Twilight Zone.
Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (VNfwt)

Both are available on youtube

Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:37 AM (Izzlo)

194 (... 10-22 = take no further action; disregard.)

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:38 AM (Pg+x7)

195 "The Lottery" has been spooking students for decades. I read it in junior high in the mid-60s and the sacrificial, pagan feeling leaped off the pages. That was part of the horror: it had gone on for so long what started as murderous superstition had become acceptable ritual carried out for no actual reason and therefore with no appeal.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (bmdz3)

196 "true supernatural"

Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (VNfwt)

the best kind

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (X/Pw5)

197 And not a Navy guy at all, but yes, they still turn into the wind to get lift on the planes at launching from catapults.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2019 10:18 AM


And also speed up the ship to maximize the wind coming over the bow. Every little bit helps.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (DMUuz)

198 Orwell was a big factor in turning me off of/to pop fiction.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (RuIsu)

199 153
In Herodotus I've reached the point where Xerxes is bearing down on
Greece and a lot of people are saying we preemptively surrender rather
than being wiped out. Xerxes, at least how he's portrayed, would often
seem weirdly benevolent toward people you'd think he'd be prone to
crushing; but that's not exactly a good way to live.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

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Classical tyrants valued their reputations for cleverness and honesty. They would also offer mercy when it was in their interest to appear benevolent.

Thus, having lost a round to a fierce warrior people, it was completely in character to praise their courage, offer them a prize position in your own command structure but remind them that further resistance would result in total destruction.

You only need a few examples of both extremes to make the point, and honestly having hardasses fighting for you is a better deal.

For one thing, it makes the whole "divide and rule" thing easier. The more diverse and disparate tribes personally loyal only to you, the better.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (cfSRQ)

200 And of course now even the profs are afraid to teach lest they get reported for wrongthink.

Very sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ

My husband taught in the business school, and accounting and finance are at least partially immune from this. I shudder to imagine SJW microbiology or physiology, but I see that "sustainable energy" is already a sort of major at Princeton, so who knows.

Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.

Even in the 70s, most MSU students were herded into ATL and Hums which could be breeding grounds for group think. The honors college gave you permission to pick and choose, I took real literature classes rather than ATL and real European history rather than "humanities". If I ruled academia, those herd classes would be abolished

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM (U7k5w)

201 A comment on The Godfather got me thinking. I never read the book but it is one of the few movies I've heard people say was as good or better than the book.

Almost every movie made based on a book I've read has been a huge disappointment. I was thinking about my top two disappointments and came up with The Lords of Discipline and The Legend of Bagger Vance.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM (2DOZq)

202 The other mystery I've just reread is Michael Gilbert's Killing of Katie Steelstock (aka Death of a Favorite Girl). I'm a big Gilbert fan - I've recommended him here - but this might be his worst. (There are 2 set in the Alps which are also below par.)

He breaks faith with the reader, violating basic principles of fair play mysteries. The ending is extremely forced, with an out of the hat solution, not something you could reasonably figure out. Since I'd read it before, I payed close attention to clues about the real murderer. They aren't there. The most I can say is that there are things consistent with the ending, but no indicators.

Also, both the community it happens in, and the courtroom scenes are below his usual standard. The one good thing in it is a portrait of an emotionally disturbed leftist.

So I'm now rereading his Death Has Deep Roots, which if not his best, is certainly his most typical book.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM (ZbwAu)

203 Ok, in the last 2 weeks, I read "Juiced" by Jose Canseco.

I never liked him, and I like him even less after reading da book.

He comes across as more than a little whiny, and quite proud of himself for having introduced steroids to MLB.

One good thing: at the beginning of each chapter, there is a quote about Canseco by someone else.

Near the end is a quote by Letterman : " If you're a baseball purist like me, you know the season doesn't really begin until Jose Canseco gets arrested".

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:43 AM (arJlL)

204 I saw Translucent Negligee open for Mighty Thews back in 88

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (G546f)


Ahem, phrasing.

Oh wait, maybe you wrote it that way intentionally, just to be naughty.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:44 AM (jjpZH)

205 I read 1984 in high school. The idea that Winston's TV watched him, that there was nowhere he could escape the surveillance of the state, really bothered me.

Fast forward to 2019 and Iphones and Google....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (d6Ksn)

206 Then I read Bo Knows Bo by Bo Jackson and Dick Schapp.

And it was a welcome change from whiny Canseco.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (arJlL)

207 [Canseco] comes across as more than a little whiny, and quite proud of himself for having introduced steroids to MLB.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:43 AM (arJ


Say what?

Posted by: Barry Bonds at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (jjpZH)

208
For one thing, it makes the whole "divide and rule" thing easier. The more diverse and disparate tribes personally loyal only to you, the better.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (cfSRQ)

And we're seeing divide and conquer with "diversity" here, IMO. The melting pot is being exchanged for a tribal mosaic for exactly that reason.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:46 AM (U7k5w)

209 We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end
of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist.


Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

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A lot of otherwise sensible leftists can't fully cross over because they can't get past the problems they see with capitalism.

I think it really boils down to a lack of religion, or fully understanding human nature, particularly original sin. If you reject that, and think that sure, we're smart and *should* be able to build a just society, you never stop hoping that someone will figure it out.

So you focus on monopolies, or greed, or profit and completely ignore that socialism incorporates all of these, just in a more hidden way.

Plus, since you don't believe in redemption, you can claim virtue by believing in something superior to everyone else, regardless of whether it works.

Thus, Orwell could write well and often about Stalin's crimes, police states and so on, but he could never quite bring himself to understand that the left ultimately had no solution for the problems he pinned on the right.

The right didn't, either, because there is no solution on this side of immortality. A lot of people can't understand that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (cfSRQ)

210 What exactly is "Young Adults'" fiction supposed to mean? Why is it a thing?

When I was a teen, my favorite fiction writers were probably Conan Doyle and Saki. And Lewis Carroll. And they're still up there.

It's true I no longer read Hornblower novels, but that's only because O'Brian is so much better.

Anyone else read Kirk's Creature of the Twilight? Not great, but a lot of fun.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (ZbwAu)

211 Then I read Bo Knows Bo by Bo Jackson and Dick Schapp.

And it was a welcome change from whiny Canseco.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (arJlL)

I think Bo could have been the Decathlon record holder for a century if that is what he pursued. But I really like him because he is an archery enthusiast.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (2DOZq)

212 Ahem, phrasing.

Oh wait, maybe you wrote it that way intentionally, just to be naughty.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:44 AM (jjpZH)


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Sez the guy who put the pre-fapping chick at the top of the thread...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:48 AM (cfSRQ)

213 210 What exactly is "Young Adults'" fiction supposed to mean? Why is it a thing?

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it's a marketing thing
a lot of the books are actually aimed at 30-40 year old women

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM (G546f)

214 Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM


It's creeping into engineering, too.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM (DMUuz)

215 Next on my to-read list - Anne Tyler's VINEGAR GIRL, a retelling of Shakespeare's The Taming Of The Shrew. This is one of the Hogarth Shakespeare series. I enjoyed the Jo Nesbo's MACBETH and waiting for Gillian Flynn's retelling of HAMLET.

Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 10:50 AM (Bk5Q+)

216 91 "Fathers and Sons: the Autobiography of a Family," by Alexander Waugh.

Evelyn's grandson. Fourth generation man of letters, & guess what? He can WRITE.
Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

So glad you posted this. I was trying to remember the title "Brideshead Revisited" a little earlier and, poof, you mention Waugh. Whew.

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 10:50 AM (GJ5tO)

217 Nobody knows Bo like I do.

Posted by: Peep at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (DMUuz)

218 Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (bmdz3)

Now, my HS teacher delved into the idea of human sacrifice during the reading of this work, sometimes without an obvious connection. I agree that the horror of Jackson's story is that people were doing it without a real reason, long after a connection to pagan gods.

I think western culture is partially moving back towards a pagan culture, and I find that even more horrifying.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (U7k5w)

219 And we're seeing divide and conquer with "diversity"
here, IMO. The melting pot is being exchanged for a tribal mosaic for
exactly that reason.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:46 AM (U7k5w)

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To an extent, but a lot of policy is currently driven by people too stupid to even know what will happen next.

You can go mad trying to figure out an inner logic or cunning conspiracy when sheer idiocy is the most likely cause.

Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)

220 My husband taught in the business school, and accounting and finance are at least partially immune from this.

Accounting has its methodological order to it that makes it attractive to logical types. Then you have to start assigning values to intangible things like Goodwill...

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)

221 Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 10:50 AM (Bk5Q+)

The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

222 Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:53 AM (U7k5w)

223 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

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I went to high school with one of the actresses in that movie. Oddly, I've never gotten around to actually watching it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:54 AM (cfSRQ)

224 Sez the guy who put the pre-fapping chick at the top of the thread...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:48 AM (cfSRQ)


You may not believe this, but the reason that painting caught my eye was the girl's hair. It made me wonder what the artist had to do, what brushstrokes or whatever, to get it to look like that.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:54 AM (jjpZH)

225 "Young Adult" fiction is what we call "Children's books" when teenagers read them.

Seriously: look at older "children's books" like Dr. Dolittle or The Wind in the Willows -- or The Hobbit! They're VASTLY more sophisticated both in writing and themes than these bloated soap-opera YA series published today.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (DYSh2)

226 The ever proliferating cornucopia of genders and pronouns is building an even more fragile Tower of Babel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (E2dMO)

227 Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)

Yet a bit more history could help here. We should be reading about how collectivism was forced on people, instead we're seeing little coverage of what Venezuela has become in the name of justice.

When the news is suppressed for political ends, it can be difficult NOT to see a guiding hand.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)

228 "My husband taught in the business school, and accounting and finance are at least partially immune from this. I shudder to imagine SJW microbiology or physiology..."

So... I teach microbiology.

Imagine the horror on the little boogers faces when
I describe how the person I know, who "became"
a girl (testosterone shots and "top surgery"),

...and left the "bottom" intact.

But no one notified the E. coli

As it Turns out, testosterone and a female reproductive tract
are a prescription for unrelenting urinary tract infections.

heh.

"It's science, bitches!" ~Jesse Pinkman.

heh. Pinkman. get it?
I'll be here all week. try the veal.

Posted by: retropox, AOL Booklegger at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (cprte)

229 Needed a break from reading so I'm listening to some podcasts.

OM, maybe have a thread on interesting podcasts sometime?

Thanks for all you do!

Hugs.

Posted by: mpfs at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (79p/O)

230 209

Plus, since you don't believe in redemption, you can claim virtue by believing in something superior to everyone else, regardless of whether it works.

Thus, Orwell could write well and often about Stalin's crimes, police states and so on, but he could never quite bring himself to understand that the left ultimately had no solution for the problems he pinned on the right.

The right didn't, either, because there is no solution on this side of immortality. A lot of people can't understand that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (cfSRQ)
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I don't think "claim virtue" is fair in Orwell's case. Others yes, but he was pretty free of that.

And he sort of admitted that the left had, as yet, no solutions. But he couldn't shake his faith that there MUST be a solution in democratic socialism. (He says that in several essays.)

Another weak spot in his arguments is that he often put a lot of emphasis on the way the world was headed. That's another reason he rejects Hayek. But in fact, he saw, in other contexts, that things could change rapidly. E.g., when writing about James Burnham.

Of course he was strongly anti-Christian, especially anti-Catholic. But he never seems to have even tried to understand the philosophical arguments. It's always on a level of popular piety and on it's (perceived) social effects. A lot of this comes out in his review of Winwood Reade's Martyrdom of Man. And his very frequent - and sometimes sympathetic - comments on Chesterton and Waugh. (He was grossly unfair to Ronald Knox, though. Misread him completely.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (ZbwAu)

231 it's a beautiful painting, OM

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (G546f)

232 I hate Nike and their Leni Riefenstahl, Shelton Lee, but the Bo Knows commercials were hilarious. I still watch them online for a laugh.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (y7DUB)

233 226 The ever proliferating cornucopia of genders and pronouns is building an even more fragile Tower of Babel.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (E2dMO)

I hate this with enough rage to poison a metropolis. On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (U7k5w)

234 Before that, I read One Good Deed by David Baldacci.

GREAT story, GREAT characters, GREAT plot.

Which brings me to the ending.

..........WHADYACALLIT ALERT !..........

I'm gonna tell ya the ending......

The story was set in the Late'40's-early '50's

And a dead guy on a dictaphone confessed to the 3 murders !

WHAT a LUCKING FETDOWN !

So all you authors and would-be authors take note here....

If you're writing a story and you're stuck for an ending.....

Just pull a dead guy and a dictphone outta yer ass and you'll be all set !

(I've been watching Rickles on YouTube of late. Does it show ?)

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (arJlL)

235 You may not believe this, but the reason that
painting caught my eye was the girl's hair. It made me wonder what the
artist had to do, what brushstrokes or whatever, to get it to look like
that.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:54 AM (jjpZH)

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I believe you, and I also know that my statement is not incompatible with your explanation.

An old friend of mine was severely turned on by long, flowing hair. As men are wont to do, we'd reminisce about exes and such and he'd tell about some girl or other, comment on all the things that drove him nuts about her and how it was never going to work out, but then he'd pause.

"Her hair, however, was exquisite."

You like hair and shoes. Fair enough.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)

236
Accounting has its methodological order to it that makes it attractive to logical types. Then you have to start assigning values to intangible things like Goodwill...


Ugh.

I was writing banking consulting software prior to the RTC closing down most of the Savings & Loans.

These S&Ls were vanity tax dodges. Many had art as assets and the "Goodwill" column always had huge numbers relative to anything else.

Big play for TX oil and cattle men.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (lD3vL)

237 225 "Young Adult" fiction is what we call "Children's books" when teenagers read them.

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some is, but mixed in are a lot of books you REALLY don't want your teen reading

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (G546f)

238 Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)


Right, and there's actually a counseling service you can get to online, I think it's called The Sudden Money Institute, that helps people who have won the lottery, or come into an inheritance, or an insurance settlement, etc., to help them manage their new wealth.

There are lots of sad case histories you can read about, people who were suddenly millions of dollars richer, and then p*ssed it all away.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (jjpZH)

239 So, I just swung by and wrote an email to Tulsi, explaining how super awesome she is, and how she's the only hope to upset the corrupt apple cart that is the Dem party, in much the same way as Trump has done in the GOP.

And how, if they're going to freeze her out and call her a Russian bot, then she SHOULD make a third-party run to teach them a lesson.

Hopefully I've done my small part to feed her towering ego, and to rub salt in her wounded pride.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (5aX2M)

240 218 Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (bmdz3)

Now, my HS teacher delved into the idea of human sacrifice during the reading of this work, sometimes without an obvious connection. I agree that the horror of Jackson's story is that people were doing it without a real reason, long after a connection to pagan gods.

I think western culture is partially moving back towards a pagan culture, and I find that even more horrifying.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (U7k5w)
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C S Lewis thought that pagansm would be better than where we are headed. He said he'd be more optimistic if a garlanded white bull were sacrificed at the opening of Parliament. We know we can convert people like that. He saw something worse coming.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (ZbwAu)

241 134 Here's some Rosie and Bing - the title track from Fancy Meeting You Here.

https://tinyurl.com/y3bj9xm5
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Ki5SV)

That's just wonderful!

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (GJ5tO)

242 Imagine the horror on the little boogers faces when
I describe how the person I know, who "became"
a girl (testosterone shots and "top surgery"),

...and left the "bottom" intact.

But no one notified the E. coli

As it Turns out, testosterone and a female reproductive tract
are a prescription for unrelenting urinary tract infections.


heh. Pinkman. get it?
I'll be here all week. try the veal.
Posted by: retropox, AOL Booklegger at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (cprte)

I'd like to see this stopped too. Doctors and APNs who write for this bullshit should lose their licenses. Telling a male he can become a female is a straight out lie and malpractice.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)

243 there's also some great fantasy and sf marketed as YA

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (G546f)

244 I love good podcasts.
My faves are
Dennis Miller
John Batchelor

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (w7KSn)

245 There are lots of sad case histories you can read about, people who were suddenly millions of dollars richer, and then p*ssed it all away.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (jjpZH)

Navin Johnson comes to mind.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (X/Pw5)

246 I hate this with enough rage to poison a metropolis. On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."

Just put down XX or XY based on how God originally configured you.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (lD3vL)

247 210 ... "What exactly is "Young Adults'" fiction supposed to mean? Why is it a thing?

When I was a teen, my favorite fiction writers were probably Conan Doyle and Saki. And Lewis Carroll."

I assume the age group for young adult is teenage and it wasn't enough to read literature like Sherlock Holmes. The stories had to be about them and all their teen angst, which they think (I use the word 'think' loosely) is the most important matter in the world. It allows these youngsters (NOT adults) to indulge every self-centered, egotistical sense of self-importance. Add in the sexy aspects and they consider themselves adults, which they aren't. It's like the 13 year old girl who thinks because she needs a bra and shaves that she is now a woman.

Mini-rant off.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (bmdz3)

248 Hopefully I've done my small part to feed her towering ego, and to rub salt in her wounded pride.

They won't read it unless its written on the back of a depositable cheque.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:02 AM (lD3vL)

249 You like hair and shoes. Fair enough.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)


Heh. Hair and eyes, actually, I'm completely indifferent about shoes.

In fact, I've gotten so many negative comments about the Friday shoe pr0n that I'm thinking of dropping it. I just don't have an eye for what the 'ettes like.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:02 AM (jjpZH)

250 You like hair and shoes. Fair enough.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)
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Who doesn't like hair?

Posted by: Joey B. at October 20, 2019 11:02 AM (iB1oa)

251 I enjoyed the Jo Nesbo's MACBETH and waiting for Gillian Flynn's retelling of HAMLET.


The one with Phil Silvers where they did HAMLET is my favorite episode of GILLIAN FLYNN'S ISLAND.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (oVJmc)

252 That painting of the little girl caught up in her book is lovely. Thanks, OM.

On the other hand, 'these pants' make me think of a long pants diaper. Thisis not a good look.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (bmdz3)

253 Of course he was strongly anti-Christian, especially
anti-Catholic. But he never seems to have even tried to understand the
philosophical arguments. It's always on a level of popular piety and on
it's (perceived) social effects. A lot of this comes out in his review
of Winwood Reade's Martyrdom of Man. And his very frequent - and
sometimes sympathetic - comments on Chesterton and Waugh. (He was
grossly unfair to Ronald Knox, though. Misread him completely.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (ZbwAu)

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Even otherwise thoughtful Brits still seem to have a hangup about Catholicism.

I watch a fair bit of British cinema, particularly period pieces. It's almost a requirement that whenever a Catholic character is identified, self-flagellation must then follow.

My wife and I laugh out loud now whenever we see it, because it's transparent bigotry but if confronted, I'm certain none of the producers or crew would find anything wrong with it. Orwell is of that world. Can't help it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (cfSRQ)

254 A comment on The Godfather got me thinking. I never read the book but it is one of the few movies I've heard people say was as good or better than the book.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM


Coppola justifiably cut out two sub-plots: the sex life of the bridesmaid Sonny was screwing, and Johnny Fontane's relationships.

The only scenes I wish he had included are 1) the two college boys who ruined Bonasera's daughter getting turned into hamburger by an ex-boxer; the backstory for Neri.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (r6GXX)

255 In fact, I've gotten so many negative comments about the Friday shoe pr0n that I'm thinking of dropping it. I just don't have an eye for what the 'ettes like.

Whoa 1

Why not ask the 'Ettes ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (arJlL)

256 On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."


==

I'd write something in different alphabet (maybe look up something in Korean) and act all offended if I get questions

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (G546f)

257 C S Lewis thought that pagansm would be better than where we are headed. He said he'd be more optimistic if a garlanded white bull were sacrificed at the opening of Parliament. We know we can convert people like that. He saw something worse coming.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (ZbwAu)


Exactly right. Lewis is another great prophetic voice. He knew where we were headed back in the 1950s. Nobody listened to him. I always wonder if he ever felt like Cassandra, cursed by the gods to have absolute perfect knowledge of the future, and to be believed by nobody.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:07 AM (jjpZH)

258 The girl reading actually resembles Mrs Eeyore. Well, much younger.

She reads like lightning, so she can read modern popular books. I've given that up entirely.

(God my arm hurts. I bragged months ago about finding out I was not inclined to opiate addiction. Good thing I left many pills in the vial. I'm using them now. The only "good' feeling is still the lessening of pain.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:07 AM (ZbwAu)

259 Whoa 1

Why not ask the 'Ettes ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (arJlL)


I have! But I've received scant response.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:08 AM (jjpZH)

260 I'd like to see this stopped too. Doctors and APNs
who write for this bullshit should lose their licenses. Telling a male
he can become a female is a straight out lie and malpractice.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)

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My daughter didn't respond well to conventional narcolepsy medication. We tried it all, nothing worked.

Nicotine did, though. So we tried to get this prescribed. Oh no, no way in hell! That's off-label use! Forbidden!

Yet the "puberty blockers" are also off-label and no one bats an eye.

I get the sense that all those mesothelioma lawyer ads will be replaced with puberty blocker ones. Too much money just sitting there.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (cfSRQ)

261 Some Moron recommended the Bernie Gunther novels of Philip Kerr so I'm reading the first, March Violets. Gunther is a former "bull" of the Berlin Kripo, Kriminalpolezei, who resigned and became a private investigator when he became unpopular with his superiors for being insufficiently pro-Hitler. The term March Violets refers to those who became fanatically party members after Hitler's rise to power, particularly those who acquire phony early party membership numbers marking them as Alter Kaempfer which is very good for appointment to powerful government positions. Set in Berlin in 1936, Gunther becomes involved in a double murder, arson, theft which implicates the power struggle between the old wealth and the new order. One of the intriguing style points is his use of criminal slang which makes the prose colorful but can cause some confusion. For example, a U-Boat is a fugitive who has gone underground. I'm quite enjoying it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (+y/Ru)

262 IMO, Edgar Rice Burroughs is a young adult author as well as Rudyard Kipling.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (2DOZq)

263 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

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I liked that movie with Julia Stiles and Heath Ledger and the soundtrack too.

Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Bk5Q+)

264 Tolle Lege
Late to this party but my gutters are all cleaned out.

Slowly moving along on both books I'm reading, 100 Days from Patrick O'Brien and With Eagles to Glory by John Gill, both Napoleonic era books.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (ZCEU2)

265 I'd write something in different alphabet (maybe look up something in Korean) and act all offended if I get questions
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (G546f)

That's good! Needless to say, I skipped their YK services and went to a service where we individually raced through the prayers and heard a sermon about fear and bravery, and how they were not separate. The rabbi called servicemen brave, the one at the other place would have maligned them

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (U7k5w)

266 And he sort of admitted that the left had, as yet, no solutions. But he couldn't shake his faith that there MUST be a solution in democratic socialism. (He says that in several essays.)

Yep.

Classic different understanding of human nature. The Calvinists see man as fallen, flawed and sinful and seeking unrighteousness constantly.

The rest of the world, despite millennia of evidence, believes that man is essentially good and can lift himself by his own bootstraps.

That is why our Founders said that a Constitutional Republic is only for a moral people and completely unsuitable for any other.

In other words, the Framers looked around, saw Presbyterians and figured it would be that demographic for ages, or they figured that they would be dead and gone before the Reprobates took over and destroyed everything.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (lD3vL)

267 I fully expect that we will see several murders by some of the kids "transitioned" early. Some, at least, will get back at those who did this to them.

And if I were on the jury, they might get off.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (ZbwAu)

268 You may not believe this, but the reason that painting caught my eye was the girl's hair.

Speaking of hair, I was at a crowded flea market and got stuck behind a white guy with dreadlocks and maaaaan, did his hair STINK !

I thought briefly of performing a public service by setting his hair on fire, but instead moved quickly away.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (arJlL)

269 Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM

It's creeping into engineering, too.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM


No way!

Posted by: Florida International University bridge designers at October 20, 2019 11:12 AM (r6GXX)

270 Greetings:

I'm currently reading "Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy 1945-1975" by Max Hastings and can recommend it highly especially for next-gens with the interest and time to go through its 700+ pages (at about 20pp per hour pour moi).

The author keeps his British-ness under control and his bits of progressive troth plighting (and where would we be these days without such) seem both perfunctory and inconsequential. He's a bit gentle on the anti-war/draft movement in America but is clear on the failures of the media, military brass, and politicians.

He only goes into depth on a couple of battles but his sub-chapter on "Fieldcraft" (pp 392 ff) tracks so closely with my own experience that I can recommend those pages highly. The author and I seem to disagree greatly about the M-16 as an infantry weapon but as my favorite Platoon sergeant told us, "The basic combat load is 22 magazines. We hump 29." And Charlie humps a handful or less.

I was unfamiliar with the author but plan to read his "The Secret War" soon.


Posted by: 11B40 at October 20, 2019 11:13 AM (evgyj)

271 On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."

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"If you can read this name tag, you're invading my personal space."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)

272 These S&Ls were vanity tax dodges. Many had art as assets and the "Goodwill" column always had huge numbers relative to anything else.

Big play for TX oil and cattle men.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (lD3vL)


When I was wasting my work life at a third rate electric utility, I wasn't a bean counter per se but understood accounting enough to understand the chicanery that was being pulled. I really respected Arthur Anderson for refusing to sign off on their books until they stopped larding up assets with non cash revenue while building a nuke so they could keep increasing dividends to gull the rubes. When Arthur was the fall guy for Enron I figured that was a crooked outcome, which Sidney Powell subsequently confirmed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 11:14 AM (y7DUB)

273 263 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)


And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.

All of our stories are footnotes to Shakespeare.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (jjpZH)

274
Why not ask the 'Ettes ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (arJlL)

I have! But I've received scant response.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

Whoa !

Mebbe post pics of scantily clad male bodybuilders wearing women's shoes.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (arJlL)

275 Exactly right. Lewis is another great prophetic voice. He knew where we were headed back in the 1950s.

Don't forget Francis Schaeffer in that list.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (lD3vL)

276 Any Morons interested in these books let me know
Posted by: josephistan

I'm interested, but da link in yer nic don't work !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (arJlL)

277 That's good! Needless to say, I skipped their YK
services and went to a service where we individually raced through the
prayers and heard a sermon about fear and bravery, and how they were
not separate. The rabbi called servicemen brave, the one at the other
place would have maligned them

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (U7k5w)

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Our parish has taken a strong turn back to orthodoxy. Part of the reason is the scandals in the Church, and our pastor decided to harass one of the other priests. (Nothing criminal, no other allegations, but he's been removed from ministry.)

Interestingly, that same pastor used to hold a talk on sex for the college kids, nominally answering questions about Catholic doctrine, but it has a more sinister aspect in retrospect.

The younger priests seem much more assertive on doctrine. It's nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (cfSRQ)

278 Damn. Belgian kids studying in a library. What a novel concept. Also probably thinking of get some now in the stacks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (C1Lsn)

279 I'm tempted to pick up the Madison book mentioned above, but I've noticed something about my reading. There are books recommended here, and they sound both interesting and useful.

However...

Sometimes when I get into them I realize it's not the book for me. There are just some subjects that, while it would be good for me to get into them, I don't need to get THAT far into them.

I doubt that would be the case with the Madison book, but it is with, for example, some of the war books. I'm a big picture guy with war, and when I get into the details of this battle or that, I find my interest waning. So I'll put that book down, probably never to be opened again.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (hku12)

280 >>175 Everyone brags about Lucifer's Hammer but I can't get started. Read the first couple of chapters at least 3x .

Footfall is a better Niven-Pournelle collaboration, better pacing, more interesting characters, more of a novel setting, yet similar to hammer.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (l6b3d)

281 269 Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM

It's creeping into engineering, too.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM

No way!
Posted by: Florida International University bridge designers at October 20, 2019 11:12 AM (r6GXX)
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Way.

Look at climate scientists. And look at the biology of sex differences.

Orwell wrote about this, too. Scientific objectivity will be tolerate only so far as it is useful to the rulers. 2 + 2 = 4 is seen as "true" only so far as it is useful in things like building bridges. And no farther. This is Pragmatism 101.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (ZbwAu)

282 I get the sense that all those mesothelioma lawyer ads will be replaced with puberty blocker ones. Too much money just sitting there.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (cfSRQ)

And I think attorneys can logically go after the prescribers and the parents for criminal abuse. No child can foresee or truly appreciate the side effects and horror of these medications and surgeries.

A couple from my husband's bridge circle have a 15yo adopted daughter who had a top surgery. She allegedly hated her body and cried a lot. Any female on testosterone will hate her body and have mood swings. And I just don't recall too many 15yo girls who adored the way they looked, especially after the 60s and Twiggy. The couple are proud of their actions, but I think they belong in jail. I wonder how the kid is digging those suture lines? Monsters.

As I have mentioned for months, this gender crap helped me to early retirement. We were about to be forced into adopting programs to assist "transitioning" people. Retirement was my "you can't make me" solution.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (U7k5w)

283 I just finished "Throne of Bones"

I read that as "Throne of Boners"

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (arJlL)

284 Godfather I and II were real ground breakers. The movies were actually better than the book, particularly II. And also not following tradition, the sequel II was better than the first I.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (mpXpK)

285
And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.

All of our stories are footnotes to Shakespeare.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (jj
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The one at that took place at Elsinore Brewery? You think?

Mel Blanc swearing at the boys was a hoot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (cfSRQ)

286 GWTW movie was better than the book too.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

287 And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM


South Park with Phillip doing Hamlet's final scene: (remove spaces)

https://southpark.cc.com/ clips/104213/ venom-to-thy-work-buddy

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (r6GXX)

288 273 263 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.

All of our stories are footnotes to Shakespeare.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (jjpZH)
___________

Clueless came from Jane Austin.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (ZbwAu)

289 286
GWTW movie was better than the book too.


Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

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Other examples:

Last of the Mohicans
Jaws
M*A*S*H

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

290 You have to skim the first two chapters of Lucifer's Hammer, then settle down and read the rest.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (mpXpK)

291 Footfall is a better Niven-Pournelle collaboration, better pacing, more interesting characters, more of a novel setting, yet similar to hammer.
Posted by: banana Dream at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (l6b3d)
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Fun fact: "Footfall" is the book N and P wanted to write in the '70 s, but their publisher didn't like the alien invasion aspect. So they recast it as a survival novel.

Posted by: Joey B. at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (iB1oa)

292 Vlad wrote a book of lecture notes, and this was subsequently done in Pale Fire. I just don't feel he pulled it off that successfully.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (y7DUB)


I should introduce you to my mother CH. She was a student of Nabokov in college, and still has some of her own lecture notes from her two classes with him. As a general matter, as I recall, he was unbelievably detailed in his plotting. For example, in discussing Dickens Bleak House, Vlad designed models of all the principal rooms in which repetitive action played out, like he was blocking a play.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (NVYyb)

293 Off hair-sniffing sock.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 11:21 AM (iB1oa)

294 I have never read the books for Mash (Catch-22) or Jaws so I could not say.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:21 AM (mpXpK)

295 On puberty blockers: Lupron is commonly used for prostate cancer and endometriosis, it is not for kids. I have seen it used to try to preserve fertility in some female chemo patients, but giving it to children to make them girlish is depraved.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:23 AM (U7k5w)

296 I think Jaws is a wash. I'm glad they left out the sex /affair out of the movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 11:23 AM (2DOZq)

297 I think Bo could have been the Decathlon record holder for a century if that is what he pursued. But I really like him because he is an archery enthusiast.
Posted by: Easy Andy

His first match as a high school wrestler, he was grappling and winning and his opponent pinched him.

And Bo body slammed him and got penalized by the ref.

They went at it again, and his opponent pinched him AGAIN and Bo pile drove his head into the canvas.

Bo was disqualified, and gave up wrestling.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:25 AM (arJlL)

298 'Alas Babylon' was part of our 10th grade reading assignments in Literature back in the '70s in Lake Worth, Fl. Worthwhile read, even today.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:26 AM (RcMUX)

299 286 GWTW movie was better than the book too.
Posted by: Vic

disagree

Princess Bride, OTOH...

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (G546f)

300 Greetings:

I'm currently reading "Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy 1945-1975" by Max Hastings and can recommend it highly especially for next-gens with the interest and time to go through its 700+ pages (at about 20pp per hour pour moi).

The author keeps his British-ness under control and his bits of progressive troth plighting (and where would we be these days without such) seem both perfunctory and inconsequential. He's a bit gentle on the anti-war/draft movement in America but is clear on the failures of the media, military brass, and politicians.

He only goes into depth on a couple of battles but his sub-chapter on "Fieldcraft" (pp 392 ff) tracks so closely with my own experience that I can recommend those pages highly. The author and I seem to disagree greatly about the M-16 as an infantry weapon but as my favorite Platoon sergeant told us, "The basic combat load is 22 magazines. We hump 29." And Charlie humps a handful or less.

I was unfamiliar with the author but plan to read his "The Secret War" soon.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 20, 2019 11:13 AM (evgyj)


My thing is, with the anti-American bent of some writers, it's sorta like being pregnant. Either you are or you aren't, and if you are, I'm not interested in what you have to say.

Max is one of those guys with a big fat round belly showing.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (hku12)

301 Here's some Rosie and Bing - the title track from Fancy Meeting You Here.

https://tinyurl.com/y3bj9xm5
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Ki5SV)

That's just wonderful!

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Mrs. Wrecks is into The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel partly because of the period music. Incidentally, Tony Shalhoub plays the Jewish patriarch. It's common to see Jews portray gentiles (even Nazis) but unusual for a gentile to portray a Jew.

Speaking of Prime, the Russki WWII documentary series Soviet Storm is pretty good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

302 I have never read the books for Mash (Catch-22) or Jaws so I could not say.
Posted by: Vic

They were ALL good, but I agree with Andy, the affair of Mrs. Chief Brody was a downer.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (arJlL)

303 as i mentioned a few weeks ago, john nash's nobel prize in economics is coming up at auction (christie's, 10/25). it's a book sale that includes first editions of hammett, ian fleming, orwell, et al.

following the sale of nash's medal is reinhard selten's nobel prize. who? selten received the prize in economics for his contributions to game theory in 1994 along with nash! (a third recipient, john harsanyi also received the award). i don't remember the movie showing all three getting the award.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Pg+x7)

304 "Clark Ashton"? Nice call-out to the Xothique stories.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ykYG2)

305 289... "Last of the Mohicans
Jaws
M*A*S*H"

Boy, did you get that right. The movies were better than the books, especially the latest version of Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis.Jaws the book wasn't terrible but it was pretty formulaic and predictable.

The best thing about the book Last of the Mohicans is the hilarious lambasting Mark Twain gave it.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (bmdz3)

306 And if I were on the jury, they might get off.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (ZbwAu

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Oh hell yeah. It's inevitable that one of these boys will eventually hack up the parents who hacked him up... I wouldn't convict. That's just a Darwin award waiting to happen.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

307 303 as i mentioned a few weeks ago, john nash's nobel prize in economics is coming up at auction (christie's, 10/25). it's a book sale that includes first editions of hammett, ian fleming, orwell, et al.

following the sale of nash's medal is reinhard selten's nobel prize. who? selten received the prize in economics for his contributions to game theory in 1994 along with nash! (a third recipient, john harsanyi also received the award). i don't remember the movie showing all three getting the award.
Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Pg+x7)

Nash's son must need the money. He is, unlike the character in the movie, sicker than his father ever was.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (U7k5w)

308 Where's Eris ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (arJlL)

309 Where's Bluebell ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (arJlL)

310 Where's Weasel ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (arJlL)

311 They were ALL good, but I agree with Andy, the affair of Mrs. Chief Brody was a downer.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (arJlL)

back in the 70s, rutty slutty shameful sex was kind of a fad in bestseller paperbacks

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (G546f)

312 OT but I think many will enjoy.

This is my birthday, which means that it is also my twin brother's birthday. I am a person of little importance, but he is a warrior and a hero, and I want to celebrate him on our birthday by sharing one of his stories with men and women who will value it, and him.

When he was in Viet Nam, on one occasion he and his men were fairly near an ammo dump, which was under fire from the Viet Cong. They were at a safe distance so they merely watched. A colonel called my brother and told him there were nine men trapped in the dump, so not to fire on it if he could avoid it.

My brother said, "You can talk to them and I can't. Tell them I'll drive my jeep through the dump at top speed, turn and drive back. That should give them time to gather in the middle. I'll slow down there so they can jump on."

The colonel said, I wasn't asking that, but I'll tell the general. My brother said, Don't you dare, he won't let me do it.

He howled with laughter, describing how nine men piled on top of each other, clinging to every imaginable part of the jeep. He had to hold one onto the hood at an angle so he could see to drive, so he drove all the way back one-handed.

And he saved them all.

Happy birthday, Spike. God bless.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (H3c5F)

313 Where's Insomniac ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (arJlL)

314 I think Jaws is a wash. I'm glad they left out the sex /affair out of the movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 11:23 AM (2DOZq)

If Benchley had instead made a throuple out of Hooper, Mrs. Brody, and Chief Brody, the tag line would have been:
We're gonna need a bigger bed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2019 11:32 AM (5v5Zx)

315 Happy birthday Wenda and Spike!!!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:33 AM (G546f)

316 Oh hell yeah. It's inevitable that one of these boys will eventually hack up the parents who hacked him up... I wouldn't convict. That's just a Darwin award waiting to happen.
Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

They would completely deserve it, and the self-orphaned kids should inherit. Let's not forget that some of these sicko SJW parents are also spaying their daughters and giving them double mastectomies.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:33 AM (U7k5w)

317 I just finished "Throne of Bones"
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I read that as "Throne of Boners"
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (arJlL)


*Writes that down*


Oh, who am I kidding. There shall be no more books coming from me.

Or boners.

Posted by: George RRRRRR Martin at October 20, 2019 11:33 AM (hku12)

318 307 cn: notes on the sale state proceeds go to the john nash trust. the sale also features original notes, theses and publications that also benefit the natl. alliance for mental illness.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 11:34 AM (Pg+x7)

319 If Benchley had instead made a throuple out of Hooper, Mrs. Brody, and Chief Brody, the tag line would have been:
We're gonna need a bigger bed.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2019 11:32 AM


Fun fact: "You're going to need a bigger boat" is not in the novel.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 11:34 AM (r6GXX)

320 312 ... Happy Birthday to you Wenda and to your brother. And thanks for the story. It made for some interesting images.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (bmdz3)

321 ]i]We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end
of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist. It really comes
out if you read the 4 vol set of essays his wife edited. For instance,
he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in
fact. And he did read and review Road to Serfdom; giving that as a
reason he didn't buy Hayek's argument.


Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

Mr Orwell still didn't understand the business cycle or the role of central banking in creating the boom-bust cycle.
Which is sad, because he had all the facts demonstrated to him in Spain

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (xG/b0)

322 Transvengeance: All in the Family

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

323 318: If you saw the son, you'd want him to get some cash. I'm hoping the trust helps him in some way. The family got nothing from that movie. Ron Howard and the studio were the beneficiaries.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (U7k5w)

324 I should introduce you to my mother CH. She was a student of Nabokov in college, and still has some of her own lecture notes from her two classes with him. As a general matter, as I recall, he was unbelievably detailed in his plotting. For example, in discussing Dickens Bleak House, Vlad designed models of all the principal rooms in which repetitive action played out, like he was blocking a play.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (NVYyb)


Damn straight. Your mother was surely much more mature than I was at that age to appreciate what she was being exposed to, although I had a paltry few really good profs who piqued my interest to stimulate me to do more than sit in the back of the lecture hall rolling my eyes. I'm very envious.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (y7DUB)

325 Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (H3c5F)

Happy birthday to both you and your brother!

And thanks to your brother for his service.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:37 AM (d6Ksn)

326 The ever proliferating cornucopia of genders and pronouns is building an even more fragile Tower of Babel.

Bad Analogy.

The Tower of Babel would have been successful sans Divine Intervention.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:37 AM (lD3vL)

327 322 Transvengeance: All in the Family
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

It's hard for me to feel anything but sorrow and anger on behalf of the kids. If a stupid adult chooses this, ok, but parents are supposed to protect the kids not encourage mutilation for SJW aims.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:38 AM (U7k5w)

328 Happy birthday Wenda and Spike!!!
Posted by: vmom happy

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:38 AM (arJlL)

329 "throuple" makes me think of a thermocouple

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:38 AM (G546f)

330 The Tower of Babel would have been successful sans Divine Intervention.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:37 AM (lD3vL)
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That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me.

Posted by: Dr. Egon Spengler at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (iB1oa)

331 A library pic that actually has people in the library, looking at books. Unusual!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Red Reed read a good read at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (ECLlc)

332 316
Oh hell yeah. It's inevitable that one of these boys will eventually
hack up the parents who hacked him up... I wouldn't convict. That's just
a Darwin award waiting to happen.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

Sex change operations or permanent chemical treatments of any kind should be outlawed for anyone under the age of 25. I don't think these sicko SJW parents understand the gravity of what they are doing to their children or the potential horror they will unleash on the rest of society with these disfigured and damaged individuals. Sounds like something you'd see in Dr. Mengele's (sp?) labs....

I wouldn't convict either.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (RcMUX)

333 "throuple" makes me think of a thermocouple

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Hot! Hot! Hot!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (+y/Ru)

334 And thanks to your brother for his service.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.

Yep !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:41 AM (arJlL)

335 I have! But I've received scant response.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:08 AM (jjpZH)

The shoes I like and the shoes I can actually wear for more than 5 minutes these days are two different things.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:41 AM (d6Ksn)

336 I'm sure Bluebell and Weasel, and many others, are traveling today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 11:41 AM (V2Yro)

337 I'm gonna try to get stuff done before the rain.

I'll check back later

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (arJlL)

338 Those who have read "The Epic Poem of Gilgamesh" will have surely noted many similarities with the Book of Genesis, as in:
A Great Flood
An Ark
The Tower of Babel
The Nephelim

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (w7KSn)

339 Fifteen tales by David Weber, David Drake, Gregory Benford & David Brin, David B. Coe, D.J. Butler, Avram Davidson, David H. Keller...

"Davidson"? That's cheating!

Posted by: mindful webworker - what da vid? at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (ECLlc)

340 Note that all postapocalypse stories are essentially ripping off "By the Waters of Babylon" by Stephen Vincent Benet, published in 1937!

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 11:43 AM (DYSh2)

341 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:43 AM (+y/Ru)

342 And he saved them all.

Happy birthday, Spike. God bless.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (H3c5F)


You are NOT a person of little importance!

I believe everyone has a purpose in this world, and your brother's, you have well documented here.

The challenge for all of us is to find our purpose, and one of yours, in a way that is VERY important, is to honor his actions, which you are doing quite well.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:44 AM (hku12)

343 Fifteen tales by David Weber, David Drake, Gregory Benford & David Brin, David B. Coe, D.J. Butler, Avram Davidson, David H. Keller...

"Davidson"? That's cheating!
Posted by: mindful webworker - what da vid? at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (ECLlc)


Yeah! Get back to us when you get his dad's stuff.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:46 AM (hku12)

344 341 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

are you saying trannies can't have babies? that's hate speech dude!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:46 AM (G546f)

345 Orwell was a human with both blind spots and sharp insights. He deserves great credit for his courage in confronting the horrors of Stalinism at a time when most intellectuals turned a blind eye to its' evil. Paul Johnson thinks that if Orwell and Camus had both lived longer, they might have ended up conservative since they had an integrity that others lacked, but of course, we'll never know.

Nobody gets it right all the time - which is why reading widely is a good thing. You get a bit of wisdom from one writer, a bit of wisdom from someone else and so on - but no one person has a lock on The Truth.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:47 AM (d6Ksn)

346 OT but while I'm on my soapbox - I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

And add another amendment limiting House of Representatives' salary to 2X median income in their district and no post-government pension, health insurance, security, etc.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:47 AM (RcMUX)

347 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

are you saying trannies can't have babies? that's hate speech dude!
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:46 AM (G546f)


Egad, I had to do a double take there. I thought Wrecks was suggesting the couples are having sex... WITH their kid!!

As in, you want to have sex with your daughter, but then you have a son? No problem! Just start buying him finger nail polish and Barbies!!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)

348 Sex change operations or permanent chemical treatments of any kind should be outlawed for anyone under the age of 25. I don't think these sicko SJW parents understand the gravity of what they are doing to their children or the potential horror they will unleash on the rest of society with these disfigured and damaged individuals. Sounds like something you'd see in Dr. Mengele's (sp?) labs....

I wouldn't convict either.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (RcMUX)

I suspect that these sex change doctors are motivated by more than just money, although greed is certainly a factor. Like Mengele, they welcome the chance to hack up human beings and conduct their little experiments. The difference of course, is that Mengele's victims didn't give consent, whereas their victims pay for the "privilege" of being mutilated.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:50 AM (d6Ksn)

349 It's trannies all the way down.

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says... at October 20, 2019 11:51 AM (EgshT)

350 AOC: We Must Nationalize American Society So We Can Have More Freedom

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We must learn to love the lash!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)

351 OT but while I'm on my soapbox - I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

And add another amendment limiting House of Representatives' salary to 2X median income in their district and no post-government pension, health insurance, security, etc.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:47 AM (RcMUX)


Nah, they can have a pension, but the amount is 1 435th of 10 percent of every dollar they cut from the federal budget.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

352 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?

All my sentences were declarative.

Book related: Mrs. the B came home from the TxMoMe with a copy of The Deplorable Gourmet. Thank you whoever was responsible for that.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (qc+VF)

353 I'm currently re-reading the Jester/Fool's Guild series by Alan Gordon. The premise is that the jesters who served kings and princes in Medieval Europe were more than just entertainers, but were part of an organization that worked to promote peace and stability.

The first book is a sort of sequel to 12th night by Shakespeare, then it goes off from there in all sorts of directions. The books are consistently hilarious, entertaining, and packed with fascinating historical detail and likable characters. Despite the odd premise, it works very well and even makes sense the way its presented (and it even has faux historical notes in the back, as if Gordon has uncovered documentation of the Fool's Guild).

There are eight books in the series so far.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

354 Paul Johnson thinks that if Orwell and Camus had both lived longer, they might have ended up conservative since they had an integrity that others lacked, but of course, we'll never know.

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PJ makes remarkable assessments of people. I recommend "Intellectuals" to all Morons. It does a great job of illustrating how our modern "giants" had feet, legs, torsos, arms and heads of clay. And by clay, I mean "poo."

Also, as an aside, he once said Robert Maxwell was so radiant with evil that he refused to be near him, and didn't even like being in the same room with him.

Given Ghislaine's proclivities, I can believe this is no exaggeration.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:53 AM (5aX2M)

355 I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

Hear hear! It wrecked the role of the Senate and the Founders intentions, creating a six year term second House of Representatives. Mob rule FTL.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 11:54 AM (y7DUB)

356 The difference of course, is that Mengele's victims didn't give consent, whereas their victims pay for the "privilege" of being mutilated.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:50 AM (d6Ksn)


Funny thing about "informed consent" though, if the person is nuts on a shingle, it's not possible for them to give it.

So.....

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:54 AM (hku12)

357 Dr. Sowell:

"In a sense, proponents of "social justice" are unduly modest. What they are seeking to correct are not merely the deficiencies of society, but of the cosmos. What they call social justice encompasses far more than any given society is causally responsible for. Crusaders for social justice seek to correct not merely the sins of man but the oversights of God or the accidents of history. What they are really seeking is a universe tailor-made to their vision of equality. They are seeking cosmic justice.

Socially counterproductive policies are just one of the many costs of the quest for cosmic justice. The rule of law, on which a free society depends, is inherently incompatible with cosmic justice. Laws exist in all kinds of societies, from the freest to the most totalitarian. But the rule of law-- a government of laws and not of men, as it used to be called-- is rare and vulnerable. You cannot redress the myriad inequalities which pervade human life by applying the same rules to all or by applying any rules other than the arbitrary dispensations of those in power. The final chapter of The Quest for Cosmic Justice is titled "The Quiet Repeal of the American Revolution"-- because that is what is happening piecemeal by zealots devoted to their own particular applications of cosmic justice."

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 11:55 AM (Ndje9)

358 Nah, they can have a pension, but the amount is 1 435th of 10 percent of every dollar they cut from the federal budget.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

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Assuming they made meaningful cuts, they'd all be billionaires.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:55 AM (5aX2M)

359 347
Egad, I had to do a double take there. I thought Wrecks was suggesting the couples are having sex... WITH their kid!!

As in, you want to have sex with your daughter, but then you have a son? No problem! Just start buying him finger nail polish and Barbies!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)
_________

That's on the menu. Count on it.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:56 AM (ZbwAu)

360 Great posts with great information. Long, long time lurker and this is only my second comment. Back in the 70's during the height of the Cold War, I read Nevil Shute's On The Beach, published around 1959 I think.This is an excellent post apocalyptic novel with submarine involvement. Makes one think very deeply about nuclear war.
One other thing, would you ever do a post on cold war espionage? This genre has evolved since the golden age of spy novels in the 50's, 60' 70's and early 80's and today there are a lot of violent, one-man-on-a-mission types of novels that are not really "spy-espionage" novels. There are some new authors that do try to continue the golden age sagas but are not very well known. Thanks again for the book thread and pet thread. My wife and I look forward to the moron (of which I am one) pet thread each week. Smiles are sometimes hard to come by these days. Thanks again for the great work.

Posted by: Dennis Collins at October 20, 2019 11:56 AM (nNjWO)

361 Paul Johnson thinks that if Orwell and Camus had both lived longer, they might have ended up conservative since they had an integrity that others lacked, but of course, we'll never know.

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PJ makes remarkable assessments of people. I recommend "Intellectuals" to all Morons. It does a great job of illustrating how our modern "giants" had feet, legs, torsos, arms and heads of clay. And by clay, I mean "poo."

Also, as an aside, he once said Robert Maxwell was so radiant with evil that he refused to be near him, and didn't even like being in the same room with him.

Given Ghislaine's proclivities, I can believe this is no exaggeration.
Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:53 AM (5aX2M)


Seconded. Assuming he's still alive, Johnson is a living treasure.

There was an article, waaaay back in the Spy Magazine days, when one of their writers went to Johnson's home to "interview" him, and I don't recall the details, but the guy was basically having a lark, asking all sorts of stupid questions.

After a few minutes of this, Johnson got up, left the room, and never returned.

The writer wrote his little piece for Spy, completely oblivious to the fact that only one person emerged from this little encounter with his dignity intact.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:58 AM (hku12)

362 355
I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.



Hear hear! It wrecked the role of the Senate and the Founders
intentions, creating a six year term second House of Representatives.
Mob rule FTL

With retirement rapidly approaching I'm looking for a worthwhile cause to fill my days....

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (RcMUX)

363 No idea but will take a guess even getting a engineering degree bet you are not getting away without a trans genders contributions to modern architecture class.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)

364 341 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

People who "change" their child's gender are perverse. It cannot be done, all you do is disfigure mentally and physically.

I know you're making a joke, but the cruelty of these parents in the name of politics is real and horrific. They should be made to take these drugs, too. You can bet they'd drop out after a dose or two.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (U7k5w)

365 Nah, they can have a pension, but the amount is 1 435th of 10 percent of every dollar they cut from the federal budget.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

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Assuming they made meaningful cuts, they'd all be billionaires.
Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:55 AM (5aX2M)


And the taxpayers pay 90% less than they are now.

I'm going to suggest we try it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (hku12)

366 In the middle of "The Strange Alliance", the memoir of the head of the US Military Mission in Moscow, 1943-45, Gen. John Deane. Published in 1947.


Very, very good. Plain, straightforward, good sense of humor.


He wasn't a Soviet hand, and his gradual, relentless education in the problems with the Soviet attitude is clearly documented.


He also documents that, outside the bubble of Moscow, or the direct glare of the Boss and whatever the reigning attitude of the day was, Russian soldiers and officers were very friendly and cooperative to Americans - to the extent of front commanders coordinating air operations with American forces without telling the Stavka.


Highly recommended for anyone with interested in that part of WWII.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (QDnY+)

367 Even after his injuries Bo Jackson is a first round draft pick for a zombie apocalypse survival team.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (B06Zw)

368 I got a book from the library called The Golden West, which is a compilation of three stories, one by Max Brand, one by Zane Gray, and one by Louis L'Amour.

The person who did the compilation is Jon Tuska, and he has an introduction to each story. For both Brand and Gray he has poetic praise and worship, going into great detail about how wonderful they were and how their stories dig deeply into the human condition and psychology, how many books they wrote, and how amazing they were.

Then he does the L'Amour intro, and after a brief "OK he led an amazing life and wrote a zillion books" bit, he launches into a diatribe about how L'Amour's books are riddled with errors, and how he only had seven plots he recycled, and how he was a crass self-promoter and on and on.

It was so annoying and blatantly filled with bitter envy that it kind of ruined the whole book. Brand is no better an author than L'Amour, nor is Gray. Gray's books are riddled with historical errors which L'Amour avoided, for example. Max Brand was a creative plotter, but he fell into patterns as well. And it is exactly Gray's fixation on human emotion and relationships that make his books kind of boring to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 12:01 PM (KZzsI)

369 I'm an intellectual.

Posted by: Little Lupe at October 20, 2019 12:01 PM (EgshT)

370 And not that I think I will be going to this fairly far away job but have spied a used book store near there so I need to finish these books.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:02 PM (ZCEU2)

371 No idea but will take a guess even getting a engineering degree bet you are not getting away without a trans genders contributions to modern architecture class.
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)


I'm assuming every "hard" science now includes a large dollop of tranny truth and glow bell warmening.

Can't gradgeate without it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:02 PM (hku12)

372
I bought three books from the bargain bin not long ago.

Art of War, The Federalist and The Prince with other writings of Machiavelli.

I've just finished the Art of War. Trying to decide which to read next .

What we want , The Federalist or what you eventually get, The Prince.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (2DOZq)






As iconic as The Prince is, one should take it with a grain of salt. It's rather out of character with Machiavelli's other writings, which are much more friendly to a representative republican form of government.

He wrote it with the intent of gaining a government post with the new Medici regime in Florence (Nicky had been a rather high-ranking official in the Florentine Republic, before the Medici came back in and re-took the city). It's even more of a head-scratcher because about a month after the Medici came to power, they arrested Machiavelli and mercilessly tortured him using the strappado (the same torture the North Vietnamese used hundreds of years later to ruin John McCain's arms).

Why he would go to the Medici begging for an important public post after that is something that's puzzled me for years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2019 12:05 PM (eXA4G)

373 355 I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

16th has to go. It's what fuels Leviathan.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 12:08 PM (NWiLs)

374 Egad, I had to do a double take there. I thought Wrecks was suggesting the couples are having sex... WITH their kid!!

As in, you want to have sex with your daughter, but then you have a son? No problem! Just start buying him finger nail polish and Barbies!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)
_________

That's on the menu. Count on it.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:56 AM (ZbwAu)


Sort of off-topic, but then not, it still sticks in my craw. Dave posted in his overnight thread the other day, a link to an article by a psychologist who was basically saying the concept of repressed memory is a myth.

What a dangerous and absurd idea!

This guy was claiming, since in the 90s there were zealots who were "helping" kids recover memories that were not real, that then ALL repressed memory is fake!

The guy should have his license shredded. I feel sorry for any patient he sees, because he's as dangerous to them as they false memory folks were.

Ask any adult who was sexually abused as a child, just how easy it is to recall the memories. It's sometimes damned near impossible, because the human brain is like that. It layers protections over the harder things for the conscious brain to recall, and there are COUNTLESS people who have been REALLY REALLY abused.

Just because this psychologist clown points to the false memory cases doesn't change that fact.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:08 PM (hku12)

375 The Art of War is just common sense, when you get down to it.
If you go to war, don't be stupid.
Like don't attack a well armed enemy of an unknown number as he sits behind cover and concealment.
Gen. Lee should have heeded that one.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 12:08 PM (w7KSn)

376 RE: The Godfather

I read Mario Puzo's autobiography once-- as I recall, it's a collection of autobiographical essays, fwiw. But it seemed pretty much like an autobiography to me.

It was fascinating, at least to me.

Pre-Godfather, he was an author who had never been able to support his family by writing. He held a long series of forgettable jobs-- one of the longest as a railroad freight clerk.

Some of his pre-Godfather writing received critical success. He was prolific.

The Godfather was his Hail Mary, mid-life attempt to achieve at least SOME commercial success before he died. He had led a life that barely supported a lower middle class existence for his family.

So... he plotted Godfather with commercial success as his one & only aim. He describes how he put a lot of stuff in there, i.e., how Sonny liked one girl because she was the only one who could accommodate his enormous penis, that Puzo wasn't exactly proud of.

The reader already knows how Puzo's one last attempt to write something that would finally SELL turned out.

Having achieved fame (& enormous fortune) late in life gave him a quizzical perspective about success, & people in general. He was a born-again skeptic.

I read a few of his pre-Godfather novels, & they were interesting. He clearly had talent & knew his craft. But... novels based on his experiences as a poor, second generation Italian immigrant never found an audience.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 12:10 PM (Cssks)

377 16th has to go. It's what fuels Leviathan.

The 16th Amendment eradicated legal recognition of private property and completely turned the relationship of We The People with a servant government into a hostile occupying enemy force with chattel to rule over.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 12:12 PM (lD3vL)

378 275 Exactly right. Lewis is another great prophetic voice. He knew where we were headed back in the 1950s.
Don't forget Francis Schaeffer in that list.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (lD3vL)


I was reading a lot of Francis Schaeffer back in the 80s at the same time I was reading Ayn Rand. It amazed me how they were each saying nearly identical things despite being about as far apart philosophically as you can get.

Too bad about Schaeffer's kid, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 12:12 PM (jjpZH)

379 He also documents that, outside the bubble of Moscow, or the direct glare of the Boss and whatever the reigning attitude of the day was, Russian soldiers and officers were very friendly and cooperative to Americans - to the extent of front commanders coordinating air operations with American forces without telling the Stavka.

They must have known who the embedded backstabbers were and how to freeze them out, because that was a dangerous course of action.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

380 Liar nood.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:16 PM (Y4EXg)

381 OM, maybe have a thread on interesting podcasts sometime?
Thanks for all you do!



Hugs.
Posted by: mpfs at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (79p/O)


A good podcast is like a good Netflix show. Really up to individual tastes and hard to explain.

However: Tom Wood's Show (Economics), Your Welcome with Michael Malice (cultural and God knows what), Walk-ins Welcome with Bridgette Phetasy (spotty and woo at times but focused around addiction recovery and politics), Contra Krugman (economics), Quillette (Libertarian NPR), Talking Biotech Podcast (Geeks talk about doing biotech), Free Thoughts (from the Cato institute on Libertarianism.org website - spotty), Accad and Koka Report (MDs talk about medicine) and on top of that Jordan Peterson and The Bablyon Bee both have podcasts.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:17 PM (xG/b0)

382 Nood, for quite some time.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (Cssks)

383 We must learn to love the lash!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)


People must be induced to accept (and even like!) their inevitable social destinies.

The lash is for later, when they balk and try to object out of disrespect and resentment at what we have done for them.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:22 PM (xG/b0)

384 Thanks for your good wishes, everybody.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (H3c5F)

385 I'd like to catch up on all arguments about epistemological analysis of past cultures and their influence on formation of current cultures/states ... but in general I find the Bible has such history in a nutshell. Man desires liberty, while societies demand obedience and conformity. God (Christian and Jewish view, imo) demands we love God first ... just how we love our neighbor becomes subject to a lot of self determined decisions, but culture influences that "determination". (teach, your children well)


Our founders broke new ground in establishing government that recognized God's provenance and man's liberty, forming a more perfect union ... unions (governments) being an essential element of protecting societal achievements in liberty from the violent Genghis Khan thieves.

The free society allows liberties, if they don't impose damage on others. (state rights, individual rights, protecting children from drag queens) ... but the despot demands conformity in thought (purging the deplorable/irredeemable via deceit and violence, special laws for certain political identities).

As Orwell noted, the totalitarian must infiltrate and destroy, rewrite history even. e.g. The first man was from China, Russians invented everything, Islamists invented all math, US was built on the backs of slaves, the noble savage arguments ... etc. Most aimed against the exceptional/successful "manifest destiny" dreams of "The West".


Russians had to infiltrate our culture, not create their own nirvana (real communism can't be done right). Jihadists infiltrate by stealth (taqiya)... China also uses stealth. "Free Trade" was mostly WallStreet using stealth against US, so they ("globalists") could use slaves (not very neighborly) and freely pollute.


The environmental movement had good elements, but then became a purely commie movement, perverting science itself, now becoming tyrannical.


And the march through the institutions, all to pervert what was built, because they can't build on their own. "They" are a cancer. "The thief comes not but for to steal, kill, destroy". (and then mafia element infiltrates as well, where the law is ignored, connected crooks become above the law, if you speak up, YOU are prosecuted)


The godless ones have to infiltrate the churches ... imo the attack on "Catholics" is mostly because Catholics are more monolithic, while Protestants are "diverse". That freedom to be diverse is good (free will) ... but many stray further away from scripture, rather than toward it.

Summary, man chooses liberty for himself and others (love God and neighbor), or he chooses to reign (become god) in this world by steal, kill, destroy methods -- to gain power over his fellow man. (this can all apply to religious institutions being perverted, as a variant type of "government", and/or to crime syndicates that act as another form of shadow government ... DeepState, narco states, corporatism, banking syndicates)


At times individuals must rise up against their captor government (to form a more perfect union), but we still hope argument and elections can save our Republic. imo there are still majority "good people" that have been deceived to various degrees. The evil ones are being exposed.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (Cus5s)

EMT 10/20/19

You ever sneeze so hard you bit your tongue and hurt your ribs?

I think I am officially old.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Put some ice on it.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:00 AM (vd8XM)

2 willowed from ONT --

First?

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (NH9pa)

3 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, October 20, 2019. On this day in 1944 liquefied natural gas leaked from storage tanks in Cleveland and then exploded, leveling 30 city blocks and killing 130 people. That LNG is some nasty stuff folks.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

4 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

5 PeeLousy leads a group of commies on an illegal visit to the Mideast and call it a 'bi-partisan' group. She included one DIABLO from TX (CR 40). I sure she will have a well balanced screed to fire at Trump with the other 10 Democrats in the group.


https://tinyurl.com/yyutb84z

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

6 Tulsi Gabbard lays into Scankles after her insane attack on her.


https://tinyurl.com/y5od23g6

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

7 The first Chick-fil-A in the UK is forced to close 6 months after it opened because the mall they leased the building from bowed to radical homosexuals cfr-cfr4dee4ex who were protesting them. They could not have done that in the US.


https://tinyurl.com/y3rtsy2b

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

8 JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon says controlling capitalist companies is socialism not social democracy, sets record straight


He's technically wrong, it Fascism not Socialism.


https://tinyurl.com/y25svm76

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

9 > Put some ice on it.

Slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (Do2h6)

10 OK, so not exactly "willowed" per se --

Took a nap at 9:50 p.m. -- woke up a few minutes ago and made it to the ONT --

-- I'm all messed up.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (NH9pa)

11 Another RINO calling it quits for 2020.


https://tinyurl.com/y2vyakkh

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

12 Democrat assholes have demonstrated that Republican Politicians can not dine out at restaurants anywhere in the US.


https://tinyurl.com/yxqyk7lq

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ramirez


https://tinyurl.com/y4qb5qsy


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)

15 > That LNG is some nasty stuff folks.

"Then I saw her face... now I'm a BLVEr..."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (Do2h6)

16 Fear of the Left is the biggest motivating factor in the country, and apparently in Great Britain as well.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:04 AM (ZCEU2)

17 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip

What you mean?
Like math?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:05 AM (vd8XM)

18 14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)

Like roof-work?

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 06:06 AM (I9xeT)

19 Democrat assholes have demonstrated that Republican Politicians can not dine out at restaurants anywhere in the US.

Can you imagine the screams of RACIST if any roles were reversed?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

20 It has been raining continuously here since yesterday in the early afternoon with that tropical storm moving through.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

21 I think Skip teed up a softball for us, there.

14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip

What you mean?
Like math?
Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:05 AM (vd8XM)

Like roof-work?
Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 06:06 AM (I9xeT)

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (I9xeT)

22
Taking liquor orders only from semi drunk hotties no totties. A black russian...you aren't Justin Trudeau 'eh ------suckin' up for votes tomorrow......................


BLACK FACE MAN BAD,

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (5IHGB)

23 You ever sneeze so hard you bit your tongue and hurt your ribs?

Posted by: Krakatoa
________

No, but I knew a guy when I was stationed at Camp Frostbite in Alaska. It was the height of the Cold War, and things were always tense. We were always on the lookout for infiltrators from outside the fence as well as watching the sky for ICBMs. Polar bears were always a potential threat to security, too . . .

. . . oh, man -- I think I'm having a flashback.

Posted by: Colonel Fuzby at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (NH9pa)

24 I do need to clean gutters but still dark for another hour

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (ZCEU2)

25 G'mornin' Horde !

41 degrees, dense fog, 1/2 moon up there.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (bwo3w)

26 70.3F and drizzling rain with fog.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

27 In Chicago, the shooting totals for the weekend up to 10:35 PM Saturday

0 Dead
25 wounded.

Hey fellas, ya know them guns got sights, don't ya?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:12 AM (vd8XM)

28 Rodrigo, I was the right age for it I guess but I really liked that band.

Mother's complain about how hard life is
And the kids just don't understand

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:12 AM (hFbrr)

29 And to think I started up my heat pump on Friday when it was 47F.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:12 AM (mpXpK)

30 Start on the hard stuff....I'm in my bunk,waiting....warm yer hands first......

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 06:13 AM (5IHGB)

31 Good Morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:14 AM (CQ8KO)

32 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:15 AM (arJlL)

33 You ever sneeze so hard you bit your tongue and hurt your ribs?

Why was your tongue on your ribs ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:15 AM (arJlL)

34 I had gutters put on the front and back of my house about 15 years ago. Every Spring I would check them. Found nothing. I had all my pine trees cut down about 25 years ago. So there is really nothing there to put mess in the gutters. So I quit cheking them other than looking at the discharge when it is raining.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:16 AM (mpXpK)

35 I broke some ribs playing industrial league softball about 20 years ago. Every time I sneezed or coughed it hurt like Hell for months.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:17 AM (mpXpK)

36 I think Skip teed up a softball for us, there.

14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip


Constipated ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:19 AM (arJlL)

37 The Texas MoMeet lives in memory and in the databases of various national security and search engine compilation entities.

What a great time! Ben Had and a crew of her friends put on a wonderful show. Jane D'Oh and her gently cooked shrimp of unusual size will be the take away memory for the few that drank less than needed for memory blackout.

This group knows how to party. Led by uh ... uh, [OPSEC].

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:20 AM (CQ8KO)

38 Walk it off.

Like Altuve.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 20, 2019 06:21 AM (Dh1wo)

39 Vic - Notorious RBG laughed that shit right off.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:21 AM (ZCEU2)

40 RBG is probably stuffed to the gills on Quaaludes.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

41 Still working on the Haxan movie

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:24 AM (ZCEU2)

42 0 Dead
25 wounded.


Life in wartime. Can you imagine? I may hear twenty-five shots in a weekend, but I know they're all going into targets.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 06:24 AM (NpvYf)

43 Sounds like it was a good time, NaCly!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 06:25 AM (Z/jzm)

44 It taught me that after you go past 40 you can no longer dive into 2nd base to try and avoid a tag when idiot first base coach waves you on.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:26 AM (mpXpK)

45 Thank you for those links, Vic. Much appreciated.

The link on Rand Paul was a bit squeaky when opened. Ouch!

But there is a solution to tat problem, close at hand. And those Leftist totalitarian asshole would deserve it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:27 AM (CQ8KO)

46 No, but if I sneeze once, I sneeze 6 times, every time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 06:28 AM (EZebt)

47 krakatoa

You are not old. Old is having more hair on your ears and nose than on your head.

I bet I have socks older than you, my young pup Cob.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:29 AM (CQ8KO)

48 What I find so amusing about "Pleasant Valley Sunday" is that it was written, played, and listened to in an attitude of scorn for the stupid whitebread middleclass values described in it ... which we have all come to value and mostly exemplify.

LOL, not.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:29 AM (bwo3w)

49 t taught me that after you go past 40 you can no longer dive into 2nd base to try and avoid a tag when idiot first base coach waves you on.
Posted by: Vic

I played in a over 40 tournament about 25 years ago.
One of the rules was no sliding. I remembered that rule as I was running to second on a deep fly out. Farked my knees up trying to stop at the base instead.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

50 My life is insanity

Oh my, yes it was fun. We have stories! But we can't speak them on the open blog.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:31 AM (CQ8KO)

51 Thinking back on various instances of cracked ribs and one of, I guess, separated rib cartilage.

Think I'll just bring those thoughts back forward about 35 years.

Now, what should be my first listen today.
Hmmm
5:30 am.

I think, yeah.
The great Satchmo.
You know the one.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:31 AM (hFbrr)

52 No, but if I sneeze once, I sneeze 6 times, every time.

And that's divisible by 3 !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:31 AM (arJlL)

53 SanFranPsycho, similar here, but 3 times.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:32 AM (bwo3w)

54 "Wonderful World" ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:33 AM (bwo3w)

55 I just watched the Astros game highlights.
I find baseball players the most like kids. Even with their beards, goofy hair, gold chains, etc. When they get the big win, they all hop around excited like 10 year olds again, for the game

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:34 AM (vd8XM)

56 49 I played in a over 40 tournament about 25 years ago.

One of the rules was no sliding. I remembered that rule as I was
running to second on a deep fly out. Farked my knees up trying to stop
at the base instead.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

We went by the official rules for slow pitch softball. There was no rule against sliding, in fact since there was a rule against charging a player guarding a base you pretty much had to slide.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:34 AM (mpXpK)

57 You are not old. Old is having more hair on your ears and nose than on your head.

I suspect, but cannot prove, that the Sandman sprinkles Miracle-Gro in my nostrils and ears whilst I sleep.

I also think he smudges my glasses.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:34 AM (arJlL)

58 Well, have a blessed day, everyone.

May all the Horde have safe travels back to home.

Gonnna sneak down to the fitness room and do something light, like look for chigger bites in the mirror. I think I'm good. But it was a very big ranch, especially to the machine gun shoot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:35 AM (CQ8KO)

59 We went by the official rules for slow pitch softball. There was no rule against sliding, in fact since there was a rule against charging a player guarding a base you pretty much had to slide.
Posted by: Vic

That's what I usually played. I have no idea why you could not in this tournament.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:37 AM (vd8XM)

60 Our league was not based on age, all you had to be by the rules was an employee of the company sponsoring your team. That kept managers from bringing ringers.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

61 Good morning y'all.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 20, 2019 06:39 AM (n0Iwq)

62 Our league was not based on age, all you had to be by the rules was an employee of the company sponsoring your team. That kept managers from bringing ringers.
Posted by: Vic

I had played in a lot of bar leagues. After getting married, I no longer played (I don't remember why /s)
This was about 10 years after I had gotten married. My cousin thought it would be fun. It was, but I think my knees paid a price

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (vd8XM)

63 30 degrees right now. Die skeeters!!!

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (n0Iwq)

64 That's the one, sock!

I'd tell ya about the one on now but fifty of ya would gang up to yank my man card.

Let's just say, a cute little thing, before she went all diva and waaay too many warbly falsettos, doing a Jackson Five song, unplugged.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (hFbrr)

65 I also think he smudges my glasses.
Posted by: JT

And, in my wife's case, then hides them around the house

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (vd8XM)

66 That's what I usually played. I have no idea why you could not in this tournament.



Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:37 AM (vd8XM)

The team managers usually had a pre-tournament meeting to determine if they wanted to put in any special "tournament only" rules. For example in our tournaments we all agreed to eliminate the 12 run slaughter rule.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (mpXpK)

67 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 06:43 AM (cqNba)

68 And now, a tune of Gary's about his dad.

True North doing Old Martin and a Mandolin.
You might like that one too, MLii.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:46 AM (hFbrr)

69 Another vid of capitalism having enough of your bullshit

https://tinyurl.com/y5oxmj7o

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 06:53 AM (wIfek)

70 I also think he smudges my glasses.
Posted by: JT

And, in my wife's case, then hides them around the house
Posted by: Bruce

One time, I couldn't find my glasses.

I looked all over, couldn't find them


So I thought "let me sit down and think where they could be.

And I sat on them.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:57 AM (arJlL)

71 We played a tournament in Raleigh, NC once with the "Home Office". We could have used that 12 run slaughter rule. I knew that after seeing their team of hulks hitting the field. They were all
10 feet tall, 4 feet wide, and their knuckles drug the ground kicking up
sparks.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:59 AM (mpXpK)

72 I was in an old-people's softball game once. Competitive as hell. Pitcher threw a high-arc beanball, batter charged the pitcher. A minute and a half later, he was at the mound. The pitcher dropped his glove and was ready to go at it. Both benches cleared. By the time the umpires restored order, all the players were at Walmart. I don't remember who won.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (NH9pa)

73 The kissing the Devil's ass scene in Haxan.

Reminded me of Hillary for some reason.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (Z+IKu)

74 Another vid of capitalism having enough of your bullshit

https://tinyurl.com/y5oxmj7o
Posted by: jsg

Why do turd chewers with nothing to say, insist on yelling it thru a megaphone?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (vd8XM)

75 teej, I "subscribed" to the True North channel on the u tube. I've been running through all of the selections and enjoying them all!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:02 AM (Z/jzm)

76 I played in slo pitch softball tournaments a couple of times.

Never got it. Some people think they're Albert Pujols or something because they can actually hit a giant ball. Sort of funny.

Same guys who couldn't hit an 80 mph fastball in Senior league.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:03 AM (wIfek)

77 Competitive as hell. Pitcher threw a high-arc beanball, batter charged the pitcher

The rules prohibited intentionally throwing bean balls. I don't know why. In slow pitch the required arc and drop was such that they could be easily avoided. But charging the pitcher was also prohibited, in fact, charging anyone was prohibited.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:03 AM (mpXpK)

78 I played in slo pitch softball tournaments a couple of times.

Never got it. Some people think they're Albert Pujols or something because they can actually hit a giant ball. Sort of funny.

I played a few years of little league. I didn't play softball until I was about 22 or so. We we're usually sponsored by a bar.
I was there for the drinking

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:04 AM (vd8XM)

79 I was there for the drinking
Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:04 AM (vd8XM)

OK that is totally understandable.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:05 AM (wIfek)

80 76
I played in slo pitch softball tournaments a couple of times.



Never got it. Some people think they're Albert Pujols or something because they can actually hit a giant ball. Sort of funny.



Same guys who couldn't hit an 80 mph fastball in Senior league.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:03 AM (wIfek)

Those balls may have been larger than a baseball but they were also a soft
core ball so that every hit was not a home run.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:06 AM (mpXpK)

81 73 just passed that point of the movie,could be Hillary

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:07 AM (ZCEU2)

82 Why do turd chewers with nothing to say, insist on yelling it thru a megaphone?
Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (vd8XM)

It may have something to do with noone would hear them with their soft voice owing to the fact that their testicles have not yet dropped.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:07 AM (wIfek)

83 Those balls may have been larger than a baseball but they were also a soft
core ball so that every hit was not a home run.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:06 AM (mpXpK)

The really sad part is I actually saw a guy swing and miss.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:09 AM (wIfek)

84 Another vid of capitalism having enough of your bullshit

Posted by: jsg
________

Those protesters have a point.

I don't know what the point was, but it was loud. My awareness has been . . . raised? . . . I guess.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:09 AM (NH9pa)

85 It may have something to do with noone would hear them with their soft voice owing to the fact that their testicles have not yet dropped.
Posted by: jsg

I would have to get one of those marine air horns, stick it in their face, and fire back

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:10 AM (vd8XM)

86 Glad to hear it MLii!

They're not for everyone but if you appreciate good lyrics and music that can't really be pigeonholed into one slot...

How I ended up playing music with that guy, even sitting in for the drummer in that band a couple of times, I have no idea.

It will end too soon, I'm sure.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:10 AM (hFbrr)

87 In a civilized culture the In and Out asshole would be leaving in an ambulance or hearse.
Zero tolerance for these shitstains.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at October 20, 2019 07:11 AM (IWA6/)

88 83 The really sad part is I actually saw a guy swing and miss.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:09 AM (wIfek)

I have seen several people strike out. its easy to do if you have a large drop and the ump doesn't call it and the batter is swinging for the fences.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (mpXpK)

89 So on our local NextDoor social media, somebody posted a picture of some cute pups in an open box.

And said that their anti depression meds have just arrived.

Cute pix.
Cute pups.

makes you smile.



So of course a local fun-sponge has to reply that making light of clinical depression is no laughing matter, and that they are offended.



Every idiot needs a social media platform.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (cqNba)

90 happy houston won.

no surprise here:

- that verlander gave up homers. he often does, early.

- that chapman gave up a homer. he often does, late. but amazing to see him dominate the first 2 batters throwing nasty strikes, then go wild losing the plate and giving up a walk and home run.

- that altuve came up big.

nut the houston defense really shone in the last 3 innings. that earned the win.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (Pg+x7)

91 I think it would be fun to see them live.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:14 AM (Z/jzm)

92 In a civilized culture the In and Out asshole would be leaving in an ambulance or hearse.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler
________

Did you see the protesters on top of the London subway train? The funny thing was how the protesters proudly posted the video as though they were right.

(Summary: Idiots stopped the Tube, said their protest was non-violent. Commuters pulled them from the top of the train. Their response was non-non-violent.)

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:14 AM (NH9pa)

93 In the meanwhile, the times, they are a -changin'

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/345852/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:14 AM (cqNba)

94 Great essay from Walter Russell Mead in todays WSJ on his belief the Trump administration has hurt itself badly with how it handled the Syria announcement. Almost nothing good has come of saying it wants to move the fifty troops around.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:16 AM (NVYyb)

95 Congratulations Houston. Nix the Nats.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:17 AM (lwiT4)

96 ... incidentally, i wouldn't count washington out. i think houston is the better, more complete team. but little wild-card d.c. actually has the 4th highest payroll in baseball, a lot on their starters, which makes it interesting.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (Pg+x7)

97 Morning Grammie.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (n0Iwq)

98 94 Great essay from Walter Russell Mead in todays WSJ

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:16 AM (NVYyb)


Walter Russel Mead is FOS. The WSJ went left about 5 or 10 years ago when they got new owners.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (mpXpK)

99 Hot 100!

Posted by: fluffy, mostly sock free at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (dCRRg)

100 To clarify that statement, the WSJ news has always been left leaning, but the editorial pages used to be center right, but that changed.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:20 AM (mpXpK)

101 That guy at In and Out with the bullhorn should leave with that thing sticking out his ass. What an annoying bozo.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:21 AM (NVYyb)

102 Vic calling Mead a POS is just ignorant.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (NVYyb)

103
42 years ago today, a Convair CV-240 ran out of fuel and crashed in Gillsburg, Mississippi, near the end of
its flight from Greenville, South Carolina, to Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Lynyrd Skynyrd's lead singer Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist/vocalist Steve Gaines, backing
vocalist Cassie Gaines (Steve's older sister), assistant road manager
Dean Kilpatrick, pilot Walter McCreary and co-pilot William Gray all
died as a result of the crash.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (lwiT4)

104 That guy at In and Out with the bullhorn should leave with that thing sticking out his ass. What an annoying bozo.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

I'm not sure what kind of decibel level it would be at that distance. I would think you could charge them with assault to your hearing though

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:23 AM (vd8XM)

105 sorry about the formatting, I blame pixy.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:23 AM (lwiT4)

106 It's October 20th and you guys are still talking baseball? Can't it wait for spring training?

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 07:23 AM (g0Lfb)

107 Congrats to the Astros. Altueve is amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:24 AM (NVYyb)

108 Question for the Horde. (Morning, thank Heaven's for whole bean 8 o'clock Coffee)

Is it realistic to want to increase weight loss faster than the 2 lbs a week I've averaged? 16 weeks so far. Is that about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair, "you wuss!" ??

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 07:25 AM (Qirt6)

109 Wait! The Astros played yesterday? At the MoMe, the only sports they talked about was Baylor football.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (edlKR)

110 They are, to me, better live than on cd.

Now that I'll be overseeing the sound and running faders at the bigger gigs where a sound company is involved or doing it all when using their own system, hopefully it will stay that way.

Why so many "sound pros" want to punch the audience in the spine with the bass and the kick drum, it's beyond me.

Hey Dummy!!
This ain't techno!!!

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (hFbrr)

111 89 So of course a local fun-sponge
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (cqNba)

heh

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (I9xeT)

112 >>42 years ago today, a Convair CV-240 ran out of fuel and crashed in Gillsburg, Mississippi
...

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (lwiT4)

Doesn't seem possible that was 42 years ago! I was in HS, remember hearing about it.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (Z/jzm)

113 Altueve is amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:24 AM (NVYyb)



Did they name him MVP of the ALCS yet?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (lwiT4)

114 " Is that about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair,"

I wanna think that two pounds per week, sustained, is a desired target rate.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (cqNba)

115 102
Vic calling Mead a POS is just ignorant.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (NVYyb)---------------------------------------

I did not call him a POS, I said he was FOS.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (mpXpK)

116 I agree- playing baseball this late, and into November, is crazy. I went to one of the WS games between the Cubs and the Indians and I kept thing, what a lousy idea for Cleveland and Chicago to play baseball in November. Not warm weather cities. Plus, the Cubbies beat us. Which I did not enjoy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (NVYyb)

117 Is it realistic to want to increase weight loss faster than the 2 lbs a week I've averaged? 16 weeks so far. Is that about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair, "you wuss!" ??
Posted by: Common Tater

The experts (HA) say 2 pounds a week is good.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:28 AM (vd8XM)

118 Is it realistic to want to increase weight loss
faster than the 2 lbs a week I've averaged? 16 weeks so far. Is that
about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair, "you
wuss!" ??

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 07:25 AM (Qirt6)


I've never managed more than 2 lbs a week, except for that first few days of shedding water weight. Or having the stomach flu.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:28 AM (lwiT4)

119 113: yes. mvp alcs.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (Pg+x7)

120 That's cool, teej!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (Z/jzm)

121 Oops my mistake Vic. Fat finger typing on my phone. Well, restating then, since you did not read the essay you cannot say he is FOS. He is a fait minded guy making valid points.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (NVYyb)

122 I agree- playing baseball this late, and into November, is crazy.



I think they should play every day of the year, excluding Christmas.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:30 AM (lwiT4)

123 Morning grammie.

That plane crash.
We've lost to many, too soon.

Hope Dagny isn't around. Pretty sure I got the to and the too all wrong.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:30 AM (hFbrr)

124 yes. mvp alcs.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (Pg+x7)



Good. He deserves it.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:31 AM (lwiT4)

125 Of all the great players in baseball today Altueve is the guy who I wish was on the Indians. He makes things happen every time the game comes his way.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:31 AM (NVYyb)

126 'Morning teej!

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

127 Everyone is an expert on what the president should or shouldn't do. If you were in that position, would you want a bunch of people second guessing you? That's how Bush ran his administration. Barky didn't suffer from that, because all his decisions were made for him

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (Tnijr)

128 121
Oops my mistake Vic. Fat finger typing on my phone. Well, restating
then, since you did not read the essay you cannot say he is FOS. He is a
fait minded guy making valid points.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (NVYyb)

The one statement that Trump "hurt himself" is BS if he said it, on that score he is full of shit. The Democrats and NeverTrumpers all belie the Trump policy in Syria, but they hate everything Trump dies.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (mpXpK)

129 >> think they should play every day of the year, excluding Christmas.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:30 AM (lwiT4)

The Brewers could keep the roof open and bring in a Zamboni. Wear ice skates....I'd pay to see that!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:33 AM (Z/jzm)

130 Hah! Ok grammie. They can play every day. Just not in Cleveland. Or on the northside either. Arizona maybe.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:33 AM (NVYyb)

131 127 Everyone is an expert on what the president should or shouldn't do. If you were in that position, would you want a bunch of people second guessing you? That's how Bush ran his administration. Barky didn't suffer from that, because all his decisions were made for him
Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (Tnijr)

Pretty good summary.

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 07:34 AM (I9xeT)

132 "...excluding Christmas."

And no games until after 2:30pm on Easter.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:34 AM (hFbrr)

133 Fudge, chance of rain today so definitely need to clean out gutters.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:35 AM (ZCEU2)

134 Has the situation with the Kurds become desperate enough for Congress to authorize war?

No?




How odd.......

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:36 AM (cqNba)

135 Everyone is an expert on what the president should or shouldn't do.

Posted by: freaked
________

Not everyone. I, personally, defer to the guy at work.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:36 AM (NH9pa)

136 Trump is like me, he was against Barky going into Syria to begin with. As I said a LONG time ago, there are no good guys in that shit-hole. And we have no national interests there.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (mpXpK)

137 "Pretty good summary.
Posted by: m "

PDT is the best damn president I have ever seen and I support him even if he makes a mistake, which I don't think he has in the case of Syria. All of the "experts" can prove me wrong once they get elected and kick the shit out of the Dems.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (Tnijr)

138 I agree Trump hurt himself in Syria, empowering the idiot Turks, splitting the GOP, and causing every ally to wonder about how far to trust the US. Moving 50 guys around is inconsequential, though getting them out of harms way is a good thing. The PR part of it was the failure. Not sure anything good has come out of this at all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (NVYyb)

139 138 The PR part of it was the failure. Not sure anything good has come out of this at all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (NVYyb)

The 'good' is 100 US troops will return home soon

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:39 AM (mpXpK)

140 "Not everyone. I, personally, defer to the guy at work."

Well "everyone " meaning his critics and even many of his supposed allies. It's suprising how many "experts" are, as Vic says, FOS.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:39 AM (Tnijr)

141 I did not call him a POS, I said he was FOS.
Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (mpXpK)

Trump only "hurt himself" because the donks and the MSM will turn everything he does into a fatal mistake.

The Kurds have been battling the Turks for many years, centuries. When we went into Syria, it was not to establish a Kurdish state or to save the PKK from retributions. We cannot remain everywhere to prevent anything bad from ever happening. The fact that ISIS was a common enemy, does not mean we owe them a state or eternal protection and allegiance.

If Congress wants us to fight the Turks, let them declare war and not just whine.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:39 AM (U7k5w)

142 I'm in with the there are places we have no business to be in and Hell holes like Syria are one of those.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:40 AM (ZCEU2)

143 " Not sure anything good has come out of this at all."

At the local level, more and more people are becoming educated to the roll that Congress plays in declaring war.

I bet that in the last week, I have had that simple conversation with at least twenty people in real life.

Which generally leads to a discussion about the Constitution, and government.

Now if each of us were to do that......

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:40 AM (cqNba)

144 Having said that, i still support PDJT totally and would never concede an inch to the lousy GOPe. It is not like their motives are pure in their criticisms. Most of them want to police the world, using somebody elses kids to do so.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:41 AM (NVYyb)

145 The PR part of it was the failure.

What country have you been in since early 2008? The MFM has hated on Trump since then with one lie after another. He has had no PR from the media.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:41 AM (mpXpK)

146 Vic, keep dreaming. Those guys are in SA, where we are adding more troops.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (NVYyb)

147 Raining steady on the Outer Banks again, The National Weather Service is calling for about 4 inches.

Should not be an issue as we had been mostly dry for twenty days. Even the low roads and bridges had dried out.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (B06Zw)

148
Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (pNxlR)

149 Even the PR aspect of this shows that PDT is not afraid to do what he thinks is right. He charges ahead, PR and media be dammed. Lesser presidents would hem and haw, and let themselves be led by generals and advisors, many of whom got us into the mess in the first place.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:43 AM (Tnijr)

150 Syria was a no-win situation. We supposedly have two allies over there: NATO Turkey and the guys fighting ISIS, the Kurds. T vs. K means two 'allies' fighting each other.

How is it bad PR for Trump to chose the safety of our own troops over an unresolvable situation of not being able to decide which 'ally' to defend in the battle of the Ts vs. Ks?

It was a solid decision. The PR part is the sour grapes of the leftist media trying to damage Trump. Don't listen to the propagandist media.

Posted by: squeakywheel at October 20, 2019 07:44 AM (XTHpI)

151 If ISIS was attacking Kurds, I might understand this "abandonment" bullshit. We did not enter Syria to protect Kurds from Turkey. This is another conflict.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:44 AM (U7k5w)

152 146
Vic, keep dreaming. Those guys are in SA, where we are adding more troops.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (NVYyb)

Trump recently put some troops in SA. Those are for Iran not Syria. The one who he is looking at bring back to the States were in Syria from Obama.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

153 Syria is, was and has always been a turd.

President Trump decided it's time to stop polishing.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 07:45 AM (Z+IKu)

154 Even the PR aspect of this shows that PDT is not afraid to do what he thinks is right.

This is correct, I think.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:46 AM (NVYyb)

155 OK, so I see a few live bodies that somehow made it safe out of the TxMoMe.

I'm guessing the cops were all busy and didn't have anyone able to patrol the roads within a hundred miles of the event.

Rental-Car = NASCAR

I'm glad he MoMe was spread out over a few days. No way to pack in all that much fun in just one evening.

For all of those I didn't completely offend at the MoMe, I'll try to correct that in the next few months in AoSHQ.

And for those who got stuck with the TxMoMe Official Coffee as door prizes, give the beans a few more days to rest - the roast is THAT fresh.

(except for those who got the Guatemalan roast (indicated by a 'G' on the bottom of the bag) - that is prime Right Now)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 07:47 AM (lD3vL)

156 I have become callous in regards to the Middle East. I believe that a good 90% of the muzzie population wants to kill each other, and, when finished, kill us. No US troops anywhere on the ground should be policy, and while we're at it, a scorched earth withdraw from Incirlik wouldn't hurt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (C1Lsn)

157 Something has bothered me about "Communist" China for some time.

With allowing private property but only controlled by party members. With concentration camps for political reeducation and suppression of religion. With the repression and forced removal of ethnic minorities.

How is China not only facist but full on Nation Socialism?

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (B06Zw)

158
46 No, but if I sneeze once, I sneeze 6 times, every time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 06:28 AM (EZebt)


I sneeze in pairs. I also am more prone now yo prolonged fits of sneezing than it seemed that I was in times past.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (pNxlR)

159 but did trump have to say "like 2 kids in a lot, you have to let them fight..."?

the u.s. withdrawal may see some good in the region, aside from removing our troops from harm's way, but that was crass. you might say "but it's true" or "who cares, it's not our fight", but 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive and 2) given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (Pg+x7)

160 " I also am more prone now yo prolonged fits of sneezing than it seemed that I was in times past."

Climate change.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (cqNba)

161 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

Good to meet you. And there is a story in that. One where you are the much put upon good guy!

OK, I'm over it.

Would have loved to have you join our discussion on China, for your take.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (CQ8KO)

162 Fat black women on OWN blame Trump for their plight

Wonder if Hattie McDaniel voted for Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 07:52 AM (rpxSz)

163 The fact that ISIS was a common enemy, does not mean we owe them a state or eternal protection and allegiance.

It is also true that when change comes it comes suddenly. This qualifies. But we need allies, both here and in the ME. Who among our allies thinks this policy change was well handled?

Your point is absolutely right, but I do not think anyone knew in the area we were going to do this until we did. That is the problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:52 AM (NVYyb)

164 It looks like the G7 will be at Camp David now. That was a bad PR move too, as portrayed by the MSM. In this case Trump bowed, but to an acceptable alternative.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:53 AM (Tnijr)

165 I agree Trump hurt himself in Syria, empowering the idiot Turks, splitting the GOP, and causing every ally to wonder about how far to trust the US.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (NVYyb)

I'm not sure about this. I think when a leader does what he knows is right, and what the people in the streets feel what is right, it accrues to his benefit in deeper, long-term ways. Trump comes off as a leader who is honoring his pledges. His stated logic about every angle of this felt true -- the Kurds are no angels, it's an ancient tribal conflict, not our affair. Meanwhile he didn't split the GOP (it's already split) but exposed and shamed the badgering warmongering munchkins.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (H8QX8)

166 I find it extremely telling all these "experts" are REEEEE!!!! about our troops protecting the Turkish/Syrian border 7,000 miles away, but they can't be bothered to protect our own border, something they are bound to do by law.

It is absurd and getting weirder by the day, or hour even. Last year the "experts" were claiming it is unconstitutional to use the military to protect our border.

I'm sure the founders were cool with that notion. Invading Armies are entitled to instate tuition and can't be questioned about their "status" right?

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (Qirt6)

167 Our church formed a team in a church softball league. We innocently thought the teams would be all middle-aged congregants with no ringers. Oh, were we surprised!

I'm 5'7" 200 lbs , a lefty, and slow as hell. I played SECOND base and batted LEADOFF. (At least I could walks or dump a single.) The one athletic guy on our team batted behind me. He would lace one in the gap and be breathing down my neck halfway between 2nd and 3rd. Fun times...

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (fbFye)

168 "given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage. "


It is well that war is so terrible.
Otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (cqNba)

169 159 but did trump have to say "like 2 kids in a lot, you have to let them fight..."?

the u.s. withdrawal may see some good in the region, aside from removing our troops from harm's way, but that was crass. you might say "but it's true" or "who cares, it's not our fight", but 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive and 2) given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (Pg+x7)

Turks v Kurds has been going on for very long time. Just because we HAD a common enemy, doesn't mean we have to support their independence movement/war, or support them in any other conflict. Nor, does it mean that we have to import more fucking refugees. The nation states with Kurdish populations do not want to cede territory. Do we want to fight their other enemies too?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:56 AM (U7k5w)

170 >>> Wonder if Hattie McDaniel voted for Trump ?

Why, is she slender?

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (dCRRg)

171 I agree the man in the street was glad to hear PDJT say to the world that we are not sending our sons to fight every war. As a policy change going forward, that is very welcome.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (NVYyb)

172 Yeah those women's lives sure went downhill in the last 3 years

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (ZCEU2)

173 We need to decrease our involvement in international wars

And greatly INCREASE the punishment for hitting the US

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (rpxSz)

174 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam
and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive and 2) given
the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.





Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (Pg+x7)


BS, Obama is the one who put US troops in Syria to begin with. He had the full backing of "I never met a shitty war I didn't want us to get in McShitty".

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (mpXpK)

175 "given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage. "

It's Chicago. What can you do.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (Z1eux)

176 170 >>> Wonder if Hattie McDaniel voted for Trump ?

Why, is she slender?
Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (dCRRg)

at the moment, probs

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 07:59 AM (rpxSz)

177 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive

Ahh, I remember the media denouncing this as a PR disaster for Obama....not.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 08:00 AM (wIfek)

178 "It's Chicago. What can you do."

Latest Chicago stats are something like 25 shot...no deaths.


Sounds more like plinking, then war.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:00 AM (cqNba)

179 Hey Baltimore who would be an excellent replacement for Cummings? How about another Cummings?

"Rep. Elijah Cummings' widow, Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, may run for his congressional seat, according to a report."

The article also stated that other potential candidates "will make room for her out of respect for her and her late husband" if she decides to run in April.

- Breitbard

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (Tnijr)

180 I admit to thinking Erdogan is an ass, bordering on an enemy. I blame Obama for kissing his ass for eight years, and the Muslim Brotherhood generally.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (NVYyb)

181 2) given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.

They're muzzies. If there were only rocks it would be savage.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (wIfek)

182
94 Great essay from Walter Russell Mead in todays WSJ on his belief the Trump administration has hurt itself badly with how it handled the Syria announcement. Almost nothing good has come of saying it wants to move the fifty troops around.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:16 AM (NVYyb)


I disagree. If all the naysayers believe that it was crucial to have kept those fifty in harm's way, then get Congress to vote on authorizing to keep them there. Absent that, it is just another Congressional dodge to avoid their constitutionally assigned duties, just as they have been doing for decades now with the budget process.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (pNxlR)

183 Just because we HAD a common enemy

The one which Obama helped create and/or supply? I don't think we've heard the last of Syria. Remember when we went in, and nobody could say why, or remember who we were helping? It was very strange.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (NpvYf)

184 Hattie McDaniel in her GWTW days. Has she ever been slender? And BTW she was great in that role, but disowned it in later life.


https://tinyurl.com/y3r3q58t

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (mpXpK)

185 Morning all. I just happened to hit today's Day-By-Day and loved the moron quality. We should be proud:
https://www.daybydaycartoon.com/
Carry on.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at October 20, 2019 08:03 AM (bIrK9)

186 180 I admit to thinking Erdogan is an ass, bordering on an enemy. I blame Obama for kissing his ass for eight years, and the Muslim Brotherhood generally.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (NVYyb)

He's a dangerous Islamist (happy to flood Europe with muslims), and Obama's "favorite" foreign leader. Sadly, Turkey is in NATO and we have more than a few nukes parked there. Before we tangle with Turkey, we should get our assets out. What do you think about that?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)

187 BTW, I also do not like Rob Manfred, though he is no Turk. Juicing baseballs all season and then supposedly unjuicing them in the playoffs is just weird. Baseball NYC office sucks.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:04 AM (NVYyb)

188 Grumpy Greta is on the move to South America from Canada. I wonder how she will get there. Maybe on the backs of some migrating hummingbirds?

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (Tnijr)

189 "The article also stated that other potential candidates "will make room for her out of respect for her and her late husband" if she decides to run in April. "

She would be a perfect fit.

It's Cumming's seat.

Why give it to a stranger.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (cqNba)

190
162 Fat black women on OWN blame Trump for their plight


Eschew the free gubmint cheese, dimwits.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (pNxlR)

191 I was shocked to hear we still have nukes in Turkey. They should have been removed before now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (NVYyb)

192 "59 but did trump have to say "like 2 kids in a lot, you have to let them fight..."?

The intellectuals don't like that but the people get it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (H8QX8)

193 183 Just because we HAD a common enemy

The one which Obama helped create and/or supply? I don't think we've heard the last of Syria. Remember when we went in, and nobody could say why, or remember who we were helping? It was very strange.
Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (NpvYf)

Obama's JV team, IIRC.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (U7k5w)

194 186 Turkey is in NATO and we have more than a few nukes
parked there. Before we tangle with Turkey, we should get our assets
out. What do you think about that?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)

I posted a link a few days ago where we pulled them out back in 2012. The only people who mentioned pulling them out now was the NYT. They are professional liars.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:06 AM (mpXpK)

195
189 "The article also stated that other potential candidates "will make room for her out of respect for her and her late husband" if she decides to run in April. "


Vote Cummings - 'Rats Have No Greater Friend!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:06 AM (pNxlR)

196 For a few years, more people have been leaving our country than entering it, Merkel said. Wherever it is possible, we must lower the entry hurdles for those who bring the country forward.

So instead of making Germany a place people wish to stay we will just remake the citizens.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at October 20, 2019 08:07 AM (JFO2v)

197 191 I was shocked to hear we still have nukes in Turkey. They should have been removed before now.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (NVYyb)

I'm surprised you're surprised. Did anyone think Obama would remove nukes from buddy Erdogan's territory? Maybe the big surprise is that he didn't just give them to Erdogan and the Islamists.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:07 AM (U7k5w)

198 "we will just remake the citizens."

When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for the government to cast off the bonds of repression, and elect a new citizenry....


Been doing it here in the US for quite some time now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:09 AM (cqNba)

199 VIA beat me to it @168.

Though I was thinking battle won, battle lost.

I wonder if PDJT just thinks these folks need to learn, or relearn, this lesson.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 08:09 AM (hFbrr)

200 The Conservative Case for Nepotism

Posted by: David French at October 20, 2019 08:11 AM (wIfek)

201 "137 "Pretty good summary.
Posted by: m "

PDT is the best damn president I have ever seen and I support him even if he makes a mistake, which I don't think he has in the case of Syria. All of the "experts" can prove me wrong once they get elected and kick the shit out of the Dems.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (Tnijr) "



This !


As far as I can see this is just one of the left / media's more successful attempts at gaslighting.


If PDT hadn't moved the 50 troops, or had sent more troops, the exact same people would be screaming about insane warmongering or some other bs.


Life is too short already without wasting time on garbage.


My 0.02 only, you are not gonna change my mind so please don't try, okay ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 08:12 AM (bwo3w)

202 There's no inheritance tax on Congressional seats.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:12 AM (QrTqV)

203 I am surprised CN because, like The Vic link says, I thought they were out already. Erdogan has not been our friend for a long time, so why tempt him? I keep hoping Turks who have had enough depose him some fine morning but no such luck.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:12 AM (NVYyb)

204
"Rep. Elijah Cummings' widow, Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, may run for his congressional seat, according to a report."
_________________

Isn't she under criminal investigation for something (not that that would stop the idiot Dims in Baltimore from electing her).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 08:13 AM (k4dH2)

205 We should remove our nuclear weapons from Turkey, probably from the EU as well.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:14 AM (U7k5w)

206 It is well that war is so terrible.
Otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
________

War is only good if our own country has NOTHING TO GAIN from it!!!!!

SAVE THE KURDS!!!

Posted by: WaterCow at October 20, 2019 08:14 AM (NH9pa)

207 I'm hungry again already. And in my last visit to the doc last week he said he wanted be to get my blood sugar down below 150. If I keep, eating mid-meal snacks that will never happen.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:14 AM (mpXpK)

208 I tend to believe that the nukes are no longer on Turkish soil either.

As a matter of policy, at least back in the old days, would be to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at any installation, or on any Naval vessel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:15 AM (cqNba)

209 BTW, I am not in favor of us deposing him. Not our fight. Also, CIA is busy trying a coup here at home so I am more focused on leveling the agency than giving it a job in Turkey.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:15 AM (NVYyb)

210 184 Hattie McDaniel in her GWTW days. Has she ever been slender? And BTW she was great in that role, but disowned it in later life.

she was one of the first make up awards.

Oscar shoulda went to Olivia but no

political, even then

like Irene Dunn, a "virulent" Republican, no Oscars

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:16 AM (rpxSz)

211 @201 -

Concur

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 08:16 AM (hFbrr)

212 "Isn't she under criminal investigation for something (not that that would stop the idiot Dims in Baltimore from electing her)."

She was indeed.

Co-mingling of charitable and non-charitable monies involving two firms that she runs.

Oddly enough, no one can find the results of the investigation.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:17 AM (cqNba)

213 I heard on the radio yesterday that Sanders has received AOC's "coveted" endorsement. The news readers leave no doubt as to their position.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:17 AM (Tnijr)

214 Many reports say that we still have weapons in Turkey. Others say Obama admin moved them to Romania (who denies it, but of course they would). If Trump says they are in Turkey, I have no reason to doubt him and every reason to doubt that Obama moved them.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:19 AM (U7k5w)

215 196 For a few years, more people have been leaving our country than entering it, Merkel said.
_______________

That's probably because of the shitty kind of people you've been encouraging to come there, Merkel. Germans don't want to stay in Germany and be taxed up the wazoo so that they can support Achmed and his 4 wives and 18 kids.

Quantity isn't quality. And little Muhammad isn't German just because he was born in a Dusseldorf hospital.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 08:19 AM (k4dH2)

216 Been doing it here in the US for quite some time now.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:09 AM (cqNba)

Cap'n Kristol thought this was a brilliant strategy, and we know what a conservative he is?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:20 AM (U7k5w)

217 Watch Gabbard finesse and slash her way to the nomination. It's going to be interesting.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:20 AM (H8QX8)

218 Vic - Read this. It is not too difficult or technical.

http://www.burnfatnotsugar.com/assets/if.pdf

It works. It isn't "easy" but it sure is simple.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (Qirt6)

219 It wasn't pulling out of Syria that will hurt us. It was the execution and unserious way it was handled. Creating that kind of vacuum for terrorist groups and terrorist nations like Iran has never ended well for us. Ask Clinton or Obama. These types of knee jerk actions hurt your credibility in a region where we've had a decent amount. The response to that is always for these assholes to test the boundaries. That means more men at risk. A negotiated withdrawal where we set the terms would have helped lessen the impact- and that's what we were doing. But the president got frustrated and pulled out. I think we're all sick of doing the heavy lifting for these ME assholes, but nobody wants to see them gaining enough strength again to blow up our embassies, kill our men on foreign bases or taking down another WTC or attacking the Pentagon.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (8ts9m)

220 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?

Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

221 So liberals tell me that we can learn a lot from the European way of government.


I am beginning to think they are correct.


https://reut.rs/35OT3Jl

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

222 AOC on Cummings:

"His guidance and vision was an enormous gift. I will forever cherish his example," she added. "May he rest in power"

Not rest in peace, but in power. Sheesh.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (Tnijr)

223 I'm kind of amazed that people still write things like "Trump's p.r. was lacking" regarding anything.

CNN is actually promoting impeachment pr()n and people think he's going to get fair coverage on the Kurds???

Trump exposed the War Party in all its sordid repulsiveness. He also made it clear to the military that Trump has their back - he wants these stupid, endless, unwinnable deployments to end.

That, by the way, is why Soros dispatched a bogus soldier sock puppet here yesterday.

What Trump did do is highlight how much Obama screwed up everything, forced the Dems to go all-in on WAR FOREVER and now he steps back and plans his next move.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cfSRQ)

224 With allowing private property but only controlled by party members. With concentration camps for political reeducation and suppression of religion. With the repression and forced removal of ethnic minorities.

How is China not only facist but full on Nation Socialism?
Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (B06Zw)

===

This is my point of view, because the Han Chinese are every bit as racist in their worldview as the Nazis.

I think this tends to be overlooked.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (EZebt)

225 Hey everybody...

'No' is here.


Say Hi to No.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

226 Vic- you getting any flooding brother?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (8ts9m)

227
Germany will solve all its problems with this one neat trick: replace 82 million people with mean IQ of 100 with 100 million people possessing a mean IQ of 82.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:24 AM (pNxlR)

228 I eat one (1) meal a day, about 6 PM. So basically a 24 hour fasting daily. No snacks, nothing. Black coffee. No exercise, maybe 1200 calories a day. Eat whatever you want, just count the calories. Your body will protest, but soon get used to it. 3 meals a day is a legacy of when people worked their ass off outside.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (Qirt6)

229 I think we're all sick of doing the heavy lifting for these ME assholes, but nobody wants to see them gaining enough strength again to blow up our embassies, kill our men on foreign bases or taking down another WTC or attacking the Pentagon.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (8ts9m)

Stop taking on more muslim "refugees" and "students". We don't owe the world an education or a place to live. And I feel the same way about all the other "huddles masses yearning to get on the American benefit merry go round".

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (U7k5w)

230 "It wasn't pulling out of Syria that will hurt us. It was the execution and unserious way it was handled."

It doesn't matter what way it was done, the Dem/GOP/Media conglomerate would throw a hissy fit .

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (Tnijr)

231 She would be a perfect fit.

It's Cumming's seat.

Why give it to a stranger.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (cqNba)

she's got two things in her favor

she's already a crook

Gary Coleman's dead

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (rpxSz)

232 >> Even the PR aspect of this shows that PDT is not afraid to do what he thinks is right.

Yes, and he has been aggressive in explaining why he is doing what is doing. It is refreshing to hear someone in DC (finally say): we do not belong on conflicts that have been going for hundreds of years, and it's time for someone else in the region to step up. Yes and yes. We did what we intended with ISI, so buh-bye!

Morning, all!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (bDqIh)

233 Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

I'm thinking a McMullin/French ticket should breeze it's way to victory.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (H8QX8)

234
No, No. Just no.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (pNxlR)

235 Damn...that Merkel article I linked to is nine years old.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (cqNba)

236 I was talking with my fellow infantrymen this morning at the DFAC, and all of us are outraged about Trump not letting us get another deployment in Syria. The per diem is awesome and the Kurds are nice, friendly people.

The Turks, on the other hand, eat their young. Screw them. We're all ready and waiting to stand by our allies the Kurds and nuke Turkey until the shadows glow.

Anyone up for lynching some Democrats?

Posted by: Rock-Solid Conservative GOP Army Vet at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (cfSRQ)

237 How big a win will PDJT have next election? Bigger than the last one. THe Demofascists have endorsed recession, joblessness, perpetual war, infanticide, racism and total poverty. Not a winning platform, especially when your leading candidates are Creepy Joe and Liawatha.



Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (NVYyb)

238 219 marcus t: much there, there.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (Pg+x7)

239 2029 is a ways off. I expect to be able to fly to Mars in my car by then.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (Tnijr)

240 JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon says controlling capitalist companies is socialism not social democracy, sets record straight


He's technically wrong, it Fascism not Socialism.


https://tinyurl.com/y25svm76

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)



Little SJW Jamie is all in on the lefty agenda except when it hits his wallet. Like so many of the other liberal CEO types. Which is why they love the Clintons and other out and out crooks. They can bribe them to leave them alone while virtue signaling to the world. It's why I want Squaw Liz as the nominee. Let's see all of the millionaires like Warren Buffett who claim they should be taxed more support getting scalped by Warren

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (N88Be)

241 Say Hi to No.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

VIA, I'd rather say No to No.
How'd they get him out from under the bridge this early?

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:28 AM (+a9vj)

242 237 How big a win will PDJT have next election? Bigger than the last one. THe Demofascists have endorsed recession, joblessness, perpetual war, infanticide, racism and total poverty. Not a winning platform, especially when your leading candidates are Creepy Joe and Liawatha.



Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (NVYyb)

Don't forget transgenderism. They support that lie, too

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:28 AM (U7k5w)

243 218
Vic - Read this. It is not too difficult or technical.



http://www.burnfatnotsugar.com/assets/if.pdf



It works. It isn't "easy" but it sure is simple.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (Qirt6)

Long article. I will read it later but yes, bottom line if you eat a lot of normal food you will elevate your sugar. Sugar-free stuff is hard to find around here and there is not even much at Amazon. I have upped my insuline shot and tried harder at dieting. We will see.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:28 AM (mpXpK)

244 220 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?
Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

LOL!

Thank you. I really did need that.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (wIfek)

245 "How'd they get him out from under the bridge this early?"


I'm guessing there is heavy rain where he is.

The river....it be a rising.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (cqNba)

246 "Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (U7k5w)"
"Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (Tnijr)"

Agree on both counts watching Democrats and their media division on this is like living in an alternate universe. Seeing Pelosi and the Democrats in Jordan would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious. They wont even pass a bill to protect the border or pass our trade deal.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (8ts9m)

247 213 I heard on the radio yesterday that Sanders has received AOC's "coveted" endorsement.
_____________

It's almost funny that her endorsement is "coveted." She's a know-nothing former bartender who essentially won a beauty contest to get herself elected to congress. She probably knows less about government policies than your average 8th grader, but because she has big tits and gets a lot of camera face time, Dim presidential candidates want her seal of approval. Just another indicator of the ludicrous times in which we live.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (k4dH2)

248

Fat black women on OWN blame Trump for their plight




Because they were supermodels before he got elected?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 08:30 AM (N88Be)

249 Even though I hate the Never Trump scum like Bill Kristol, we have to admit he makes some good points.

Trump is a loose cannon, a total wild card. A measured foreign policy would involve the US carving out quasi-states all over the place, sustained by pure, patriotic American firepower and sustained by the endless courage of our fearless volunteers who will spend generations protecting these highly lucrative enclaves.

Trump's still stuck on the stupid idea of declaring war, admitting that Syria has actual borders and other b.s. My infantry brothers would never read the Cuckshed, but I hear that scumbag Charlie Sykes did have a good take on this last week.

I'm not going to use the link because I haven't read that scum, though I hear it's really, really good.

Posted by: Rock-Solid Conservative GOP Army Vet at October 20, 2019 08:30 AM (cfSRQ)

250 226
Vic- you getting any flooding brother?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (8ts9m)

No flooding here, but it has been raining for two days straight. I'm sure there is some flooding somewhere.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:30 AM (mpXpK)

251 "Don't forget transgenderism. They support that lie, too"

Ah...the theory of the female penis.

I often bring that one up in conversation in real life.

Seems a bridge too far for some folk.
And they begin to tip back toward thinking that maybe this whole transgender thing is a mental illness.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (cqNba)

252 nobody wants to see them gaining enough strength again to blow up our embassies, kill our men on foreign bases or taking down another WTC or attacking the Pentagon."

FWIW, each one of those is a direct result of the Colin Powell school of acquiescence. Don't do anything that might offend, you know...

Morning, y'all! Fine Texas AM, so Coffeve for all!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (6qErC)

253 How big a win will PDJT have next election? Bigger than the last one. THe Demofascists have endorsed recession, joblessness, perpetual war, infanticide, racism and total poverty. Not a winning platform, especially when your leading candidates are Creepy Joe and Liawatha.
------

You left out eating bugs, rolling electrical blackouts, giving up your car, and NO SMOKING, Chicks with Dicks Choose Your Own Adventure Bathrooms!, and So Much More!

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (Qirt6)

254 Yesterday was "National Period Day". No wonder I was so bitchy.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (Tnijr)

255 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?

Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)



2029? Math. How do it work?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (N88Be)

256 Trump killed Bambi's mom

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:32 AM (8jYrs)

257 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 20, 2019 08:32 AM (cknjq)

258 The stale tropes of conventional wisdom always stage a final desperate rally to protect their barren regions before the onrushing gusts of fresh, bold and patriotic thinking.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:33 AM (H8QX8)

259 The 2020 election is:


[ ] Socialism

[ ] Not Socialism.


Chose only one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:33 AM (cqNba)

260
Trump is a loose cannon, a total wild card. A measured foreign policy would involve the US carving out quasi-states all over the place, sustained by pure, patriotic American firepower and sustained by the endless courage of our fearless volunteers who will spend generations protecting these highly lucrative enclaves.


It is to LOL. Well done.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:34 AM (pNxlR)

261 I don't think I could get by in one meal a day, but reducing food intake by a lot sounds smart to me. Exercise helps me a lot, keeping the muscles in my legs strong. I need to do that mostly because I have a bad right knee from playing football as a kid. So I eat small meals during the day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:34 AM (NVYyb)

262 255 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?

Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

I love toast. Especially when slathered with the chunky jam of media and Leftist innards.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

263 Problem isn't just food containing "sugar". It is carbs in general. Bread, pasta, fruit, starchy foods, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (UUBmN)

264
Cannot stale tropes be put to good use like, say, as salad croutons?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (pNxlR)

265 Nobody will beat Trump. I only worry who will follow him. There isn't a single person in the GOP I can think of that has the same temerity to fight.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (8ts9m)

266 256 Trump killed Bambi's mom
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:32 AM (8jYrs)

Which, IMO, an excellent reason to support him. The deer population in NJ is disgusting, and they are less fearful of humans than ever.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (U7k5w)

267 " Especially when slathered with the chunky jam of media and Leftist innards. "

That's not jam.

That's souse.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (cqNba)

268 263
Problem isn't just food containing "sugar". It is carbs in general. Bread, pasta, fruit, starchy foods, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (UUBmN)

The carbs is the sugar.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (mpXpK)

269 "Trump killed Bambi's mom"

I don't believe strippers. They are notorious liars.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (Tnijr)

270 I miss chocolate chip cookies. And blueberry pie.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (NVYyb)

271
Which, IMO, an excellent reason to support him. The deer population in NJ is disgusting, and they are less fearful of humans than ever.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (U7k5w)


Authorize bow hunting in the suburbs. A tree stand in every back yard!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (pNxlR)

272 There's some bint named Heather Cox Richardson that my annoying niece always links to on Farce Book.
She writes fairly well-written articles from the lefty point of view. It's so discouraging - well-written and completely factually wrong. And Mrs. Red points out that they think the same of us and our positions.
There's no way this ends well.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (+a9vj)

273 "Authorize bow hunting in the suburbs."

Crossbows.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (cqNba)

274 Trump hates old people, kids, and dogs

Posted by: Tin Cup starring No at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (wIfek)

275 Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (6qErC)"

Truth. The question is not whether these threats exist, it's how you handle them. Powell was a giant fail on handling them.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (8ts9m)

276 Sorry,

checking the Vegas o/u on Bernie going horizontal

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (rpxSz)

277 Long article. I will read it later but yes, bottom line if you eat a lot of normal food you will elevate your sugar. Sugar-free stuff is hard to find around here and there is not even much at Amazon.
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Read it, Vic. The whole "diet" thing is a SCAM. They make so much money off junk food, they'd declare martial law if people started to eat sensibly. I'm only halfway joking. I eat whatever I want. I'm not into planning "1PM. Half cup of fat free celery, and 2 ounces of recycled douglas fir sawdust."

F that. Life is too short. I make meatloaf and mashed potatoes and gravy, steak and eggs, reuben sandwiches with chips, milk, whatever you want. Read the article!

The first 25 pages of Goolag results on dieting is probably 90 per cent BS.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:39 AM (Qirt6)

278 "There's no way this ends well."

Depends on the definition of 'well'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:39 AM (cqNba)

279 Authorize bow hunting in the suburbs. A tree stand in every back yard!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (pNxlR)

I'd love that, but the leftist loons only want deer "birth control", and no killing ever of female deer, which guarantees that the population will continue to soar, deer shit will be everywhere, and that they will only be preyed upon by SUVs.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:40 AM (U7k5w)

280 "but the leftist loons only want deer "birth control", and no killing ever of female deer,"

Mental image of WineMoms putting a condom on a rutting buck.


Now THAT won't end well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:42 AM (cqNba)

281 A deer got hit by a car that broke some legs, and then crawled to die under underbrush at the side of the house. We found it by smell

There are some jobs that always get relegated to dad. Because ....

I also got to cleanup the dead skunk caught in a rat trap in our garage

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:42 AM (8jYrs)

282 I pc of toast with grape jam has 45 grams of carbs. That's 1/3 of my daily allotment.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:43 AM (mpXpK)

283 I set up my deer birth control clinic in a tree in my back 40 a few weeks back.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:43 AM (+a9vj)

284 "I set up my deer birth control clinic in a tree in my back 40 a few weeks back."


12th trimester abortions?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:44 AM (cqNba)

285 In Westchester we have coyotes who feed on deer. They're.in the foresty part of Van Cortlandt Park in The Bronx

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:45 AM (8jYrs)

286 Mental image of WineMoms putting a condom on a rutting buck.


Now THAT won't end well.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:42 AM (cqNba)

I doubted the "wine moms" stereotype until I saw it for myself. Last week I took my grandson to a local farm to pick out a few pumpkins and get some of the last Jersey vegetables before the season ends. This farm has a small winery, and there, at 11AM were the fabled "wine moms" swilling goblets of white wine. Move over orange juice, now white wine is breakfast food.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:45 AM (U7k5w)

287 265 Nobody will beat Trump. I only worry who will follow him. There isn't a single person in the GOP I can think of that has the same temerity to fight.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (8ts9m)

Laura Bush

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:46 AM (rpxSz)

288 12th trimester abortions?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:44 AM (cqNba)

Free "pills".

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:47 AM (+a9vj)

289 I'd love that, but the leftist loons only want deer
"birth control", and no killing ever of female deer, which guarantees
that the population will continue to soar, deer shit will be everywhere,
and that they will only be preyed upon by SUVs.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:40 AM (U7k5w)

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They tried this in Ann Arbor. It (predictably) failed.

It's funny because they won't just go all-in and spay the females. That might actually work. Instead, they tried to tie the tubes in order to inflict minimal harms on creatures almost entirely made up of delicious meat.

The result was totes predictable: Females still went into heat, couldn't get pregnant, after the alpha bucks gave 'em a go, all the betas took a shot and since they were still in heat, bucks from outside the area also picked up the scent.

Total shitshow.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 08:47 AM (cfSRQ)

290 Laura Bush"

God help us. America's School Mom.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:48 AM (8ts9m)

291
Over the course of the past three years our domicile has been blessed by the gifting of fasteners and tools from relatives who either have passed on or have moved out of their long time homes. I have been tasked with sorting through this treasure trove. Yesterday I consolidated easily two dozen pounds of 12d common nails. Perhaps we'll have the grandkids build a treehouse ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:48 AM (pNxlR)

292 274 Trump hates old people, kids, and dogs
Posted by: Tin Cup starring No at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (wIfek)

Pelosi, AOC and Talib, no ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:48 AM (rpxSz)

293 I feed the deer here apples by hand. As I'm doing it I say "eat up, one day that Will make you more tender in a stew".

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:49 AM (8ts9m)

294 "The result was totes predictable: Females still went into heat, couldn't get pregnant, after the alpha bucks gave 'em a go, all the betas took a shot and since they were still in heat, bucks from outside the area also picked up the scent.

Total shitshow."

Sounds more like deer gang-rape.

You would think that liberals would be against stuff like that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:50 AM (cqNba)

295 An interview of Crowder on Joe Rogan's show, it auto-played in the background. It took me a while to catch on that the interview is 4 years old.

Crowder saying that the dem nominees don't disagree on the tiniest things. For example, someone like Rogan who describes himself as pro-choice, but as he draws a line on the ghastliest procedures, would never win a primary. They're not capable of disagreement because they lack the small fortitude to discuss at all. If it wasn't for trans people the party would be stuck in amber like the Jurassic Park mosquito.

And he mentions in the gop primary, that Trump said "The Iraq war was a disaster!" For a moment you could hear a pin drop, and then everything continues.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2019 08:50 AM (LxTcq)

296 I doubted the "wine moms" stereotype until I saw it
for myself. Last week I took my grandson to a local farm to pick out a
few pumpkins and get some of the last Jersey vegetables before the
season ends. This farm has a small winery, and there, at 11AM were the
fabled "wine moms" swilling goblets of white wine. Move over orange
juice, now white wine is breakfast food.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:45 AM (U7k5w)

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The local Whole Foods had a display for Easter last spring right when you walked in the store: mimosas. A refrigerator case with nothing but organic, fresh-squeezed orange juice and champagne.

Because Easter Sunday is a drinking holiday to these people.

(Every holiday is a drinking holiday in my family, but we're Irish.)

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 08:50 AM (cfSRQ)

297 289: Other NJ residents are depending on a growing coyote population. The lunacy knows no limits.

Bow hunting is "cruel" they say, so I would favor buck shot.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (U7k5w)

298 Celery is a utensil, not a food.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (RuIsu)

299 https://www.romper.com/p/a-short-history-of-the-wine-mom-meme-9709313

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (cqNba)

300 Candice Owens can follow Trump.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (hl+Pg)

301 "Yesterday I consolidated easily two dozen pounds of 12d common nails. "

When my Grandpa died, it was like inheriting a hardware store. 10 years later I am still sorting thru stuff.

Occasionally I'll use something out of that inventory that was Grandpa's and I'll look upward and say "Thanks Grandpa!" I like to think he would be happy to see it.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:53 AM (Tnijr)

302 Mimosa. That word makes me think of the word smegma.
Nope, not even Sunday evening.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:53 AM (+a9vj)

303 Mimosa.

Aspirin for Wine Moms.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:53 AM (hl+Pg)

304 298 Celery is a utensil, not a food.
Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (RuIsu)

I kinda like raw celery

but cooked, omg, nasty

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:54 AM (rpxSz)

305 Raw celery under peanut butter or cream cheese is good.

Celery cooked with a nice roast is good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:55 AM (hl+Pg)

306 "Wine mom" seems like the old 1950s cocktail moms

Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 08:56 AM (G546f)

307 306 "Wine mom" seems like the old 1950s cocktail moms
Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 08:56 AM (G546f)

Did they start drinking before lunch?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:57 AM (U7k5w)

308 There will only be one Trump with his unique flair and command over the theatrics. After 8 years of that people will be ready for a change. The problem is I don't see anyone at the moment who possesses his core desire to serve the people and pursue an American agenda, not some corporate, globalist worldview.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:57 AM (8ts9m)

309 305
Raw celery under peanut butter or cream cheese is good.



Celery cooked with a nice roast is good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:55 AM (hl+Pg)
Raw celery with bleu cheese and spicy hot chicken wings are very good.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (D3cJf)

310 308 There will only be one Trump with his unique flair and command over the theatrics. After 8 years of that people will be ready for a change. The problem is I don't see anyone at the moment who possesses his core desire to serve the people and pursue an American agenda, not some corporate, globalist worldview.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:57 AM (8ts9m

Hey there!
Hello!

Posted by: Candice Owens at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (1GAHG)

311 " "Wine mom" seems like the old 1950s cocktail moms"


Except around here, they all seem to be of the SJW variety.

They talk the same way.

They write comments on social media the same way

They vote the same way

They emote the same way.

And on...and on.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)

312 Re: hurting when sneezing. I had a heart valve replaced 5 years ago. It's still painful if I have a hard sneeze.

Posted by: Ron at October 20, 2019 08:59 AM (K0xn1)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:00 AM (pNxlR)

314 They emote the same way.

And on...and on.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)

Do they go to those acrylic painting parties to get sloshed, too? I just heard about those.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:00 AM (U7k5w)

315 Celery cooked with a nice roast is good.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:55 AM (hl+Pg)

rather eat a bocce ball

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 09:00 AM (rpxSz)

316 books up

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

317 Marcus, considering how much has changed over the last 8 years, I'm sure if I have no clue how things will look in two or three years.
But it will certainly be different.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 09:01 AM (+a9vj)

318 I guess Mo me is over? I asked and asked about it. Sent message on side board. Crickets. Is it a closed group?

Posted by: AnnaS at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (l4l/z)

319 300 Candice Owens can follow Trump.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (hl+Pg)

You said it. Been thinking this myself. I'm done with politicians. Owens/Bongino ticket 2024. By my calculation she'll have just turned the legitimate age.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (H8QX8)

320 Except around here, they all seem to be of the SJW variety.



They talk the same way.



They write comments on social media the same way



They vote the same way



They emote the same way.



And on...and on.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)


THIS. They were the same women I worked with 20 years ago who fresh out of college spewed every liberal talking about while not understanding a word of it but they said it and supported it because they thought it made them smart and "progressive". 20 years later they are still as empty headed as ever except they've had a couple of kids and moved the the suburbs and they along with their beta male husbands are still voting the same way and flipping districts to lefty Dems.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 09:03 AM (PZ7zc)

321
Did not clear the posting box entirely, I guess.

Opinions and points of view that struggle mightily to rise to "emptyheaded" when sober are never improved upon when delivered along the path of becoming half in the bag. To wit: our son's in-laws.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:03 AM (pNxlR)

322
Hattie McDaniel in her GWTW days. Has she ever been slender? And BTW she was great in that role, but disowned it in later life.


https://tinyurl.com/y3r3q58t

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (mpXpK)

A columnist asked her in later life if she resented playing a maid, and she replied, "I'd rather play one than BE one". The black groups went after her with a vengeance, but she did very well for herself. An amazing actress. Just that scene of her and Melanie walking up the stairs after little Bonnie Blue was killed is just incredible. She was THE focus of that scene.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (9YBqo)

323 AnnaS, I'm sorry that we somehow missed connections about the MoMe.

Again, my apologies and hopefully it will work out for next year.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (7CZws)

324 18
14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)



Like roof-work?

Posted by: m


Roof work isn't hard, but the landing sure does suck.

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at October 20, 2019 11:01 AM (qZdIZ)

325 Vic.

I started on the Zone about 6 months ago. As shown cut almost all bad carbs and moved to more lean meats (which I barbecue) and lots of veggies. Still have an occasional burger and stuff and do about a 16 fast between dinner and breakfast. Threw in riding my bike 10 or so miles every other day. Anyway, I am 60 and have lost 74lbs. in 5 months, but more importantly 10 in. off my waist and have never eaten more great food in my life. And threw away all my meds and CPAP. Do it for a month and then it's easy and not complicated. I am never going back.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at October 20, 2019 11:14 AM (377Zs)

326 1, 9, 38, rub some dirt on it. Get back into the game.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (7JWs5)

327 Yes.

Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at October 20, 2019 11:53 AM (L9+g/)

328 Sneezed so hard it caused a muscle spasm in my neck. It hurt to breathe, let alone move. Had to get to a physical therapist with ultrasound equipment to relax the muscle.

Posted by: ChupaMe at October 20, 2019 12:01 PM (gGMVa)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (10/19/19)

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The Saturday Night Joke


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Hey Kids! You might just have to get your own damn NetFlix account.

For a much longer time than anyone could have really expected, Netflix’s surprisingly reasonable willingness to look the other way when it came to mass password-sharing was a bright spot in an otherwise cruel and merciless universe. But since nothing gold can ever stay, it seems these halcyon days of virtually limitless password swapping are numbered.

In the company’s third-quarter earnings interview on Wednesday, Netflix executives announced that they’re keeping an eye on password sharing and are exploring ways to crack down on the practice. The company didn’t detail any specific course of action, but, as the Daily Dot posited, future attempts to curb password swapping will likely involve limiting the number of devices or IP addresses that can be linked to any one account.

Logically, this is a perfectly reasonable step for the streaming service to take, and various other competitors in the streaming space have already begun flirting with similar tactics. Disney+ initially announced its subscriptions would be limited to 10 devices, but later claimed the 10-device limit would only apply to downloads on mobile devices following pushback from customers. The platform will still limit the number of devices that can be streaming at once to four — a policy common across streaming services, including Netflix.

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So if you're driving through the Badlands, be careful. Bison return to Badlands National Park.

Little known, highly depressing fact: the bear on California’s state flag doesn’t exist anymore. It’s a California grizzly, and they were hunted to extinction in the 75 years following the Gold Rush, which began in 1848.

The United States maintains a checkered-to-woeful history with much of its iconic wildlife. Consider its national bird and national mammal, the bald eagle and bison, respectively. In 1963, there were only 417 pairs of nesting bald eagles left in the contiguous 48 states. Poaching, synthetic insecticides and habitat disruption all contributed to the decline. Bison, meanwhile, once dominated North America; an estimated 30-60 million roamed the continent in the 1500s. By the year 1884, that number was down to an astonishing 325.

Each of those creatures has made a massive comeback in the last 100 years or so, though, thanks to hard-fought battles by conservationists. The bald eagle was famously removed from the endangered species act in the mid-1990s, and is now humming along (relatively) thanks to a variety of protective measures. And bison, which climbed to nearly 250,000 by the end of the 1990s, are having a good century.


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Capitalism is not alive and well in Columbus, OH.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) — Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein says a lingerie store that doubled as a strip club has been shut down.

Klein announced Monday that Columbus secured an emergency court order to vacate and shutter an east side lingerie store located at 1471 East Livingston Avenue, called “Sexxy 4 Less” that was a front for an underground strip club called “Club Sexxy.”

According to court documents, the Columbus Division of Police began covert surveillance of the premises earlier this summer, obtaining evidence of illegal drug and alcohol sales.

Klein also states that investigators also linked a July shootout at the premises to a homicide that had occurred a month earlier.

Families with children lived in apartments directly above the lingerie store.

“There were armed security guards with body armor, and even the dancers were packing heat, which tells you all you need to know about the danger this illegal club posed to employees, patrons, and the residents living there,” said Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein.


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If it doesn't sound good from the "get-go", what makes you think it will work? College kids should know better.

Alabama freshman Connor Bruce Croll was arrested in Tuscaloosa on Sunday morning after cops say he called in a false bomb threat to LSU’s Tiger Stadium. According to the police, Croll did so because he wanted to get the game canceled and save his friend a bunch of money.

Croll is being held in Tuscaloosa County jail pending charges after being listed as a fugitive from justice, per Tuscaloosa News. An Alabama spokesperson told the News, “Threats and pranks can have serious ramifications and necessitate an appropriate response. The university and UAPD are cooperating fully with the investigation, but we cannot provide any additional details on a pending matter.” He will likely be charged in Baton Rouge.


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Will we ever run out of Participation Trophies? Only time will tell.

Kyle Williams told NBC10 he knew he was dangerously close to breaking the rules Saturday morning when his youth football team, the Conshohocken Golden Bears, went up 30 to 0. The rules of the Keystone Sports League, which features kids no older than 7 years of age, prevent a team from going up by more than 30 points.

“Less than two minutes left I called a timeout because I wanted to pull the starters off the field,” Williams said. “I put kids in there who normally never played.”

When one of the second stringers, a 5-year-old boy, got the ball he ran toward the end zone as Williams ran along the sideline and repeatedly yelled for him to fall down. The boy still scored however, putting the team up 36 to 0.

Now Williams is facing a possible $500 fine and a 2-game suspension.

“I have three sons,” Williams said. “I’m not gonna tell my son, especially if he’s running the ball, ‘Don’t go out there and give it your all.’”


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Did you know that the company which made your Grandmother's sewing machine also made weapons of war?

The M1911A1 handgun was designed by prolific arms developer John Moses Browning. The slab-sided semi-automatic handgun holds seven rounds of .45 ACP ammunition and was the standard sidearm of the U.S. military from World War I to the 1980s, a remarkable longevity. During World War I and World War II, companies that produced civilian machinery retooled to produce weapons, including the 1911. The Union Switch and Signal company, maker of railroad equipment, made the firearm. So did the typewriter manufacturer Remington Rand.

In 1939, the U.S. War Department contracted the Singer Sewing Machine Company to build 500 1911A1s. The contract, Educational Order W-ORD-396, was a test to see if Singer could produce 100 guns a day, a number it thought was doable. The War Department got its handguns, serial number series S800001-S800500, but the company was unable to live up to the pace of 100 guns a day.


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This story has been floating around for the better part of a week now. Too funny not to put it in a Saturday ONT.


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THE ONT MUSICAL INTERLUDE


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How to seduce a woman, if you are a Genius Award Winner.
A. [ ] Whisper sweet nothings in her ear?
B. [ ] Gift her with flowers and candy?
C. [X] Whip out your penis and hope for the best?

Nicholas Sheehy, 23, was arrested Friday afternoon at the Dollar General in Ottumwa, a city about 85 miles southeast of Des Moines. Sheehy, an Ottumwa resident, was charged with indecent exposure, a serious misdemeanor.

When confronted by police, Sheehy “admitted that he ‘whipped it out’ referring to his penis,” a criminal complaint alleges. “The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it sexually.”

Instead, the woman contacted cops, who reported that Sheehy “admitted that he exposed himself for sexual gratification.”

Pictured above, Sheehy was booked into the Wapello County jail, from which he was released after posting $1000 bond.


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The NFL has been spiraling down the toilet the past few years with their SJW shit. But not everyone in the league is a SJW. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day. H/T Bitter Clinger

New Orleans Saints linebacker Demario Davis' has raised $120,000 for a local Mississippi hospital through the sale of his "Man of God" headband that earned him a fine from the NFL back in September.

"This is amazing, it just shows you the power of God... I would have never thought this whole movement would have happened."

— Demario Davis on Fox Nation's "Laura and Raymond"

"This is amazing, it just shows you the power of God," said Davis on the latest episode of Fox Nation's "Laura and Raymond." "You know, I would have never thought this whole movement would have happened — and it's not just here in New Orleans. It's been national."


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the fact that The ONT Is Always Looking Out For You TM

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. Not responsible for Texas MoMe bonds or collect calls.

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1 Evening Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (Y4EXg)

2 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (JFzNN)

3 Even read the content.

Posted by: Philemon at October 19, 2019 09:53 PM (IToxY)

4 Huh. Early again. Hmmph.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 09:53 PM (J6P5a)

5 Evening all.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 09:57 PM (axyOa)

6 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 09:57 PM (7WaWV)

7 PARTICIPATION!!!

That counts.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 09:58 PM (x8Wzq)

8 Lotta truth to that bottle cap...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (7s3Gx)

9 Also proves I at least skimmed the content.

Boo.

Yeah.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (x8Wzq)

10 hoping the Astros win tonight

Posted by: wing at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (JFzNN)

11 Ha. And I (possibly) own the rifle that shot the last grizzly in Ca., Pacoima, to be exact. A .40-65 "86 Winchester, carried by my gggg-uncle Fred Graves, (son of Graves child survivors of the Donner Party.) He was a turn of the 20th century California Ranger. Of course, I can't prove anything, but as far as I can see, it can't be disproved, either.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (J6P5a)

12 Buona Sera, Fapperini!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at October 19, 2019 10:05 PM (vhcul)

13 " 'I have three sons," Williams said. "I'm not gonna tell my son, especially if he's running the ball, 'Don't go out there and give it your all.' "

Except that that's exactly what he did to someone else's son, who'd never gotten a chance to play in the game before. He yelled at a five year old to fall down so the kid couldn't get a touchdown.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:05 PM (+lVUW)

14 At this very moment, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton are having a "conversation" in a hall in Portland!

It's very strange - the event allegedly sold out, but Andy Ngo (who is attending) tweeted a picture fifteen minutes before the event was supposed to start showing that about two-thirds of the seats in the front section were empty.

The organizers took special steps to prevent the resale of tickets - after all, the secondary market for Hillary and Chelsea tickets is huge. The cheapest tickets cost $45 (which includes a copy of the book that Hillary and Chelsea "wrote"), while the most expensive tickets were $220, which I'm sure includes a meet-and-greet with Hillary and Chelsea.

Oh - and the total seating capacity of the hall is 850. Hillary's appeal is becoming more selective, you see.

Ngo described the crowd as "filled with middle-age white women, their husbands, and gay men."

I'm so sorry I'm missing out.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (I2/tG)

15 Wow, pretty quiet 'round here tonight.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (2PXwn)

16 >>Now Williams is facing a possible $500 fine and a 2-game suspension.

Dura lex, sed lex. You wanna teach kids to break the rules, coach?

Williams' team of kids should've been forced to cut grass for the entire summer.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (XzT/D)

17 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (EqKj1)

18 Chelsea Clinton has Nosferatu hands.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (XzT/D)

19 Doral no longer a G7 meeting option.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (x6XkS)

20 15 Wow, pretty quiet 'round here tonight.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (2PXwn)

right??

Texas Mo Me must off da hook, yo!

Did I get the shtreet talk right?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:10 PM (x8Wzq)

21 Demario Davis sounds like a classy guy, who lives his faith. More power to him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:10 PM (QugKX)

22 So, for $45 you get to listen to Hillary list the many, many excuses she's come up with for her loss.
Oh, and you also get a book that lists the many, many excuses she's come up with for her loss.

And as Ace said the other day, "she's plopped out another one."

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:11 PM (+lVUW)

23 Chelsea Clinton has Nosferatu hands.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (XzT/D)

and a bloated, scary clown face.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:11 PM (x8Wzq)

24 Dandy ONT, Mis Hum! Thank you.

About that guy who whipped it out in the Dollar General Store... I know there is a joke in there somewhere...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (TY826)

25 Wow, pretty quiet 'round here tonight.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (2PXwn)


Hard to text from the drunk tank.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (axyOa)

26
So the media goaded Bush 1 into Somalia and 30 years later we have imported a fuck load of fucked in the head Somalis to the USA.

Our government is full of fuck heads who import welfare recipients

Not winning

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (EqKj1)

27 >Sheehy "admitted that he exposed himself for sexual gratification."

Is that wrong?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:13 PM (jYnPD)

28 The Association. Saw them in 1973 at a little club in Ohio. Was a very good show, (except for the guy who got too drunk and ralphed on my back. Luckily was wearing a jacket.)

"Cherish", "Along Comes Mary", "Windy". Their harmonies were great.

Seems like they got caught between eras and seemed "uncool" to the up and coming hard rock folks. They did do many fine songs.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:13 PM (RfzVr)

29 About that guy who whipped it out in the Dollar General Store... I know there is a joke in there somewhere...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (TY826)

You just know that a Dollar Store dick is gonna have melamine in it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (QugKX)

30 Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:11 PM (+lVUW)

Going to see Hillary & Chelsea on a Saturday night. Talk about a sad existence.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (aA3+G)

31 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?

Posted by: George at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (wuG1L)

32 If Trump were having that event, instead of Hillary and Chelsea, there'd be 20,000 people inside, 20,000 people outside, and they'd have been waiting outside since 6 A.M.

As Hillary is speaking to her "throng" of supporters, she should think about that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)

33 the best thing to happen to bison? capitalism. bison aren't farmed exactly but they are culled, and the meat sold for burgers etc.

they aren't even all that expensive.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (aUjDc)

34 I saw Mit Romney suck a fart from Kurdistan at CBGB in 1975

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (EqKj1)

35 Penn State is trying to lose this game.

The Hokies won in 6 OTs against UNC. Longest OT game in ACC history.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (6rRyd)

36 Sheehy "admitted that he exposed himself for sexual gratification."

Is that wrong?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:13 PM (jYnPD)

Hell, met too. That and having to take a whiz. Mostly taking a whiz.

Okay. Taking a whiz. And that one time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (x8Wzq)

37 31
Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?

Posted by: George at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (wuG1L)
An asshole.

Posted by: Peaches at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (14URa)

38 You just know that a Dollar Store dick is gonna have melamine in it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (QugKX)
* * * *

Ha!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (TY826)

39 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (TY826)

You're welcome

Not sure about a joke but there could be a song in it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)

40 11 Ha. And I (possibly) own the rifle that shot the last grizzly in Ca., Pacoima, to be exact. A .40-65 "86 Winchester, carried by my gggg-uncle Fred Graves, (son of Graves child survivors of the Donner Party.) He was a turn of the 20th century California Ranger. Of course, I can't prove anything, but as far as I can see, it can't be disproved, either.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (J6P5a)

Still a cool story, either way.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (jYnPD)

41 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?
Posted by: George at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (wuG1L)

Yeah. The time to bring out the bench-warmers would have been when they were up 14-0.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (QugKX)

42 Chelsea is going to need a turn in the clinton family bath. a shame Epstein isn't around anymore to supply the virgins

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:17 PM (aUjDc)

43 Going to see Hillary & Chelsea on a Saturday night. Talk about a sad existence.

Actually, the venue has a restaurant and a couple of excellent bars.

I'm sure that the husbands who were dragged to this thing were pounding them down prior to having to endure Hillary and Chelsea.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:17 PM (I2/tG)

44 the CU Buffs look like an endangered species after tonight. they got slaughtered.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (aUjDc)

45 I'm sure that the husbands who were dragged to this thing were pounding them down prior to having to endure Hillary and Chelsea.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

----

You're talking drinks, amiright?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (Y4EXg)

46 Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)

I misread that as thong.

Arrrrgghhhhhh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

47 I kept reading that "Bison return to Badlands national park" headline posted various places and thinking "return, the Teddy Roosevelt NPs (both north and south units) in the Badlands has had Bison since I was a kiddo" Finally I clicked. Ohhh, there is a Badlands national park in SD.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (n4y+3)

48 Not sure about a joke but there could be a song in it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

Quite possibly! Trying to think of one...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (TY826)

49 Singer, like most other manufacturers, produced various precision war material.

I recall prowling around a B-17 and noting windows made by Lionel. At least one of the engines was a Studebaker.

As an aside, I have a vintage Singer bench grinder.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (Pu/Kw)

50
Willowed:

the White armies spent too much time playing The Running Of The Jew and not enough time consolidating their positions and coordinating tactics
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (aUjDc)

-------

This was a problem. But moreso, the quibbling over monarchism versus provisional government. I'd argue that Semenov and the above mentioned Ungern-Sternberg were their best commanders, but Wrangel and Kolchak basically anathematized them.

And it didn't help that Ungern-Sternberg was a barking mad Buddhist ascetic Baltic-German Tsarist warlord who dreamt of a global Mongolian Khanate above the other goals.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (5aX2M)

51 the best thing to happen to bison? capitalism. bison aren't farmed exactly but they are culled, and the meat sold for burgers etc.

they aren't even all that expensive.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (aUjDc)

They ranch them here in Alberta, and have for years. I know a family who run a bison ranch about a dozen miles from here. Fences and corrals run big $$, because the critters are so strong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (QugKX)

52 Regardless if PSU chokes this game away or not, my hatred of Harbaugh will never quench. What a douche.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:20 PM (6rRyd)

53 They ranch them here in Alberta, and have for years. I know a family who run a bison ranch about a dozen miles from here. Fences and corrals run big $$, because the critters are so strong.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

----

Regular barbed wire would just be a suggestion for those critters.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (Y4EXg)

54 I recall prowling around a B-17 and noting windows made by Lionel. At least one of the engines was a Studebaker.

As an aside, I have a vintage Singer bench grinder.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (Pu/Kw)

The B-17 based at Falcon Field in Mesa has 3 Studebaker engines on it. Saw that last January.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (QugKX)

55 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (TY826)


Ted Nugent from Free For All, when in doubt I whip it out, got me a rock n roll band, it's a free for all

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (EqKj1)

57 I am hoping for a return of the mammoth . how cool would a mammoth ranch be.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aUjDc)

58 I am hoping for a return of the mammoth . how cool would a mammoth ranch be.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aUjDc)

But if one got sick and died, to bury it would be a mammoth undertaking.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (QugKX)

59 Funny thing is, many companies made guns when push came to shove. New England Westinghouse made M1891 rifles for the Czar, Smith Corona produced 03-A3's for Uncle Sam, and the M1 carbine was turned out by IBM, Rock-ola, etc. And I may be mistaken, but didn't General Motors make M3 submachine guns?

Posted by: eastofsuez at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (U2zca)

60 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (TY826)


Ted Nugent from Free For All, when in doubt I whip it out, got me a rock n roll band, it's a free for all
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

You da man!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (TY826)

61 >>56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (EqKj1)

Wunnerful, wunnerful!

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (XzT/D)

62 Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:20 PM (6rRyd)

Another thing we can completely agree upon,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

63 In a thread a few days ago a commenter said Netfllix never made a dime and was a losing venture. I said they did report a profit this quarter and have done so for a few quarters now though I put out the option that it was accounting tricks. I also said that they have probably lost more money in previous years as to overwhelm their recent profits. BTW, all this is major paraphrase.

But to be clear, the commenter was right. Netflix is hemmoraghing cash regardless of a reported profit the last few quarters. It is a money losing machine.

My personal issue with Netflix other than their lefty bias is they robbed me. I quite the site long ago but checked in on the account and found they were charging my CC with Brazilian Reals. No way anyone got my account info in a normal way. Somehow someone in Brazil logged on to my "cancelled" account and started charging it in Reals. When I called them the CS rep admitted this was a thing and not singular to me. I was done with them from that day on. Cancelled everything. I should follow up with them as they owe me money., My suggestion is to check even if you cancelled nutflix. In this day and age there is cancelling, and there is cancelling. These guys never really cancel an account unless you stomp on them about it.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (n13/j)

64 I am hoping for a return of the mammoth . how cool would a mammoth ranch be.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM



A glyptodon ranch would be waaaaay cooler...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (7WaWV)

65 If Trump were having that event, instead of Hillary and Chelsea, there'd be 20,000 people inside, 20,000 people outside, and they'd have been waiting outside since 6 A.M.

Trump campaigned a couple of times in Oregon (not in Portland) last time, and I'm sure will do so again this time - the Trump campaign is allegedly targeting Oregon (at least according to Hillary).

A majority of Oregon voters outside of the county that Portland is in voted for Trump - however, given Portland's North Korean-level voting patterns, Trump still lost by ten points statewide.

I continue in my belief that I could see a Republican presidential candidate winning in Oregon, but it wouldn't matter, since that would mean a Republican landslide nationally.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (I2/tG)

66 Re the Netflix limitations.

When we used to have Netflix (we cancelled when they gave the the Obama's $$$ for nothing, and told them that was the reason) we did share our password with our son.

Gonna limit people to 10 devices?! Oh no, the horror!

I can't even fathom having 10 devices that Netflix would be on. My home computers, that's two. My tablet, my phone, ok we're up to 4. A couple to your trusted family members, we're at six. Who the hell needs more than 10. If you have that many devices, you are plenty well off and can just go ahead and buy another subscription.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (RfzVr)

67 31 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?
Posted by: George


And then runs along the sidelines yelling at a five year old to take a dive.

I went to girls' elementary school basketball games. It was a hoot.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

68 And it didn't help that Ungern-Sternberg was a barking mad Buddhist ascetic Baltic-German Tsarist warlord who dreamt of a global Mongolian Khanate above the other goals.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (5aX2M)
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His units had a rainbow coalition of Chinese, Mongols, Buryats, Russians, Cossacks, etc. The man was a uniter!

My favorite fun anecdote was the Baron holding an enemy's head over a train smokestack.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (vhcul)

69 I was in the Badlands (North Dakota) a month ago. Fabulous country, great GOLF COURSE! and cold beer. Highly recommended.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (n/eZB)

70 And I may be mistaken, but didn't General Motors make M3 submachine guns?
Posted by: eastofsuez at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (U2zca)

GM made the most M1 carbines, IIRC. Inland.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (jYnPD)

71 How boring or weirdly partisan would you have to be to pay to see Hillary and her spawn in 2019?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (H5knJ)

72 I suppose we already have a giant sloth preserve , on Capitol Hill.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (aUjDc)

73 The John Inglis company, a Canadian appliance manufacturer, made Browning Hi-Powers:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y29swznl

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (QugKX)

74 But if one got sick and died, to bury it would be a mammoth undertaking.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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Go to your room!

*nice one AOP! Snort.*

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (Y4EXg)

75
Surprise Wee-Wee

I thought she would show me her tits
Once she caught sight of my dangly bits
But that creepy ho'
In the One-Dollar sto'
Said my dangly was not worth two bits.

Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling dooning at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (qBbz7)

76 I suppose we already have a giant sloth preserve , on Capitol Hill.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (aUjDc)
* * * *

You are being way too kind...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:27 PM (TY826)

77 How boring or weirdly partisan would you have to be to pay to see Hillary and her spawn in 2019?

Suburban wine moms and middle-aged women with cats.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (I2/tG)

78 35 Penn State is trying to lose this game.


Not hard enough.

Posted by: iron308 at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (vEy8k)

79 Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling dooning at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (qBbz7)
* * * *

*snort*

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (TY826)

80 My favorite fun anecdote was the Baron holding an enemy's head over a train smokestack.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (vhcul)

--------

Oh... I'm partial to "disciplining soldiers for drunkenness by throwing them naked into an icy river and making the survivors fend for themselves against the wolves, and promoting those who survived the second ordeal."

There was a reason that even the demon Dzerzhinsky feared him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (5aX2M)

81 69 I was in the Badlands (North Dakota) a month ago. Fabulous country, great GOLF COURSE! and cold beer. Highly recommended.
Posted by: free tibet



I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places. Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc. Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (6rRyd)

82 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?

You got scholarship players who have earned the right!

Posted by: That Coach on MadTV at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (Ry8mf)

83 >>71 How boring or weirdly partisan would you have to be to pay to see Hillary and her spawn in 2019? Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (H5knJ)

Would not pay to see her spawn. Would point and stare in speechless horror at observing the act, but would not pay to do so.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (XzT/D)

84 Ah, The Association.

When I was a kid, our neighbors named their little dog 'Windy'. Cute lil' rat dog pocket-sandwich football wire-haired terrier... whenever that dog stood still, she'd literally be trembling. Dunno if she was cold or just always overly-excited.

Thanks for the memory, lol.

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (gP/Z3)

85 "Kyle Williams told NBC10 he knew he was dangerously close to breaking
the rules Saturday morning when his youth football team, the
Conshohocken Golden Bears, went up 30 to 0. The rules of the Keystone
Sports League, which features kids no older than 7 years of age, prevent
a team from going up by more than 30 points.
......

Now Williams is facing a possible $500 fine and a 2-game suspension."


The rule is poorly worded/conceived. The game should *end* when one team is up by 30, not prevent the team from scoring. If they want to keep the game going, then don't count the points scored by the winning team. Clearly, the league is run by idiots, but what else is new. *cough* Bud Selig *cough cough*

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (XKZwp)

86 Suburban wine moms and middle-aged women with cats.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (I2/tG)

Male feminist predators.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (jYnPD)

87 >>Suburban wine moms and middle-aged women with cats. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (I2/tG)

Incels.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:30 PM (XzT/D)

88 Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (XKZwp)


Rodger Goodell feels slighted pooky

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (aA3+G)

89 Penn State is trying to lose this game.

Worst lead in the world to have: up by two (touchdowns in case). Other team scores and all of a sudden everyone gets real tight.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (IMdOQ)

90 So what is the suburban wine moms thing?


I know

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (EqKj1)

91 40 11 Ha. And I (possibly) own the rifle that shot the last grizzly in Ca., Pacoima, to be exact. A .40-65 "86 Winchester, carried by my gggg-uncle Fred Graves, (son of Graves child survivors of the Donner Party.) He was a turn of the 20th century California Ranger. Of course, I can't prove anything, but as far as I can see, it can't be disproved, either.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (J6P5a)

Still a cool story, either way.


I am not sure if owning such a weapon is a felony today but I am certain it is an impeachable offense!

Posted by: JB1000 at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (1NxC3)

92 BSU TD !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (EqKj1)

93 Why in heavens name would Nick Mulvaney agree to be on with Chris Wallace tomorrow?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (KSBDE)

94 So has Muldoon retired from commenting, and limericking here at the HQ, or is it just the Limerick-a-Day site that is retired?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (QugKX)

95 During WWII Gerber Baby Food canned food for the army. My grandma who had a fruit farm and couldn't sell much in crops during the depression was suddenly able to sell anything she could grow to Gerber. Some of the farmers were paid in Gerber stocks. After my grandma died, my mom and her sisters inherited Gerber stock that had sat for years growing in value.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (+lVUW)

96 I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places. Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc. Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Farmington, NM has a public course that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pinion Hills, I think.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (VNfwt)

97 Nice Twatter takedown of the 'moderate' Tulsi Gabbard. Her going after Kameltoe and Skankles is great but lest anyone forget, she comes from the toxic socialist stew that is Hawaii. (Mazie Hirono, anyone? Or Hawaiian judge blocks Trump [again], anyone?) As the Twat thread shows, she's batshit crazy, but she isn't as batshit crazy insane as the rest of the Democrat Klown Kar Kandidates. I call that damning with faint praise. Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp. No wonder the soyboys on the right are in love with her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2z8ob24

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (Y8PSl)

98 i dont think incels would bother with Hillary events. they hang with Yang.
4chan taught me this.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (aUjDc)

99
I know a bunch of wine moms.

All super cool and fun

What I missing?

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (EqKj1)

100 The John Inglis company, a Canadian appliance manufacturer, made Browning Hi-Powers:



https://preview.tinyurl.com/y29swznl

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (QugKX)
yeah, the hi power was used on both sides in ww2. After they Germans took over Belgium, they made them in Canada as you say. The Brits used the Hi Power right up til very recent times and Saddam loved the weapon. Screw Saddam but the Hi Power is a classic.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (n13/j)

101 Love the North Dakota badlands and South Dakota badlands. Seen lots of Buffalo in both. I love seeing the tourons (tourist morons) try to get close for a picture.

Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (2GZs0)

102 >>Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp.

Trump, he down. Respec'.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:34 PM (XzT/D)

103 Also, auto factories in Michigan switched over to making planes, and so on. There have been a number of companies around Michigan that make tanks and/or tank parts.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:34 PM (+lVUW)

104 Why in heavens name would Nick Mulvaney agree to be on with Chris Wallace tomorrow?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (KSBDE)

He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone ever again.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 19, 2019 10:34 PM (xPl2J)

105 I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places. Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc. Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.

We stayed in Medora at a great hotel. Plenty of eating/drinking places. It was past Labor Day and the Medora musical was over but that is a great time, as is the pitchfork fondue. Gorgeous country. Hiking, biking, four wheeling, etc.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (f6lTY)

106 Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling dooning at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (qBbz7)

....and Mindful takes up the mantle.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (i/wJA)

107 Farmington, NM has a public course that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pinion Hills, I think.

Should I?

Posted by: The Monterey Peninsula at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (1+J19)

108 Species becoming extinct is not necessarily a bad thing.

I am glad there are no T Rex or other carnivorous dinosaurs stalking me when I go to the local Kroger.

And unless someone can make a good case against, I would not care if mosquitos became extinct. Gnats also.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (RfzVr)

109 Rodger Goodell feels slighted pooky


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (aA3+G)

Roger Goddell did not RUIN the uniqueness of the ultimate championship game of his sport with inter-league play and he did not WREAK PHYSICAL HAVOC on players' bodies by lengthening the playing season. He has plenty of faults, to be sure, but they pale in comparison to what Bud Selig has done to the traditions of baseball.

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (XKZwp)

110 So has Muldoon retired from commenting, and limericking here at the HQ, or is it just the Limerick-a-Day site that is retired?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (QugKX)

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Full hiatus. May or may not return from exile.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (5aX2M)

111
I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places.
Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc.
Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.

Posted by: Puddleglum

i am going to have to agree with you there. Western Nebraska is no Ireland or Myrtle Beach. But that could be a good move if you go in Summer. Some of the Northern US Open courses are the nicest we have because they get relatively less play per year.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (n13/j)

112 He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone ever again.

Maybe it's a training mission. Kid's got to learn sometime.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (g0Lfb)

113 >>extinct

Botflies.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (XzT/D)

114 mosquitoes deserve genocide.

you are right that Jurassic Park should not be a thing.

I still want a mammoth safari.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (aUjDc)

115 As the Twat thread shows, she's batshit crazy, but she isn't as batshit crazy insane as the rest of the Democrat Klown Kar Kandidates. I call that damning with faint praise. Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp. No wonder the soyboys on the right are in love with her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2z8ob24
Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (Y8PSl)

Tulis Gabbard should be no hero to the Right, but she is a loose cannon on the Donks' gun deck, and that is very amusing in itself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (QugKX)

116 56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment
Posted by: Yo!

When my dad was still alive I would put that on for him on Saturday night. That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

117 What I missing?
Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (EqKj1)

It is considered common wisdom that their vote is mush-minded, emotional outburst, probably stemming from the 2018 midterm performance.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (jYnPD)

118 As Hillary is speaking to her "throng" of supporters, she should think about that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)


Hillary is speaking to her thong supporters.

Writing that, I just hurled dinner, lunch then breakfast.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (Y8PSl)

119 Farmington, NM has a public course that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pinion Hills, I think.



Should I?

Posted by: The Monterey Peninsula at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (1+J19)

what is the green fee now? I would guess $600 -$700 but that is just a guess.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (n13/j)

120 Whoever did the costuming for Lawrence Welk like bright colors and lots of frou frou.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (+lVUW)

121 Check out the Golf Course at Devil's Tower. expensive to join but they have a stay and play deal that is outstanding. Very nice "cabins" right at the course.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (f6lTY)

122 113 >>extinct

Botflies.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (XzT/D)

hillary's POTUS prospects.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (jYnPD)

123
Doral no longer a G7 meeting option.
Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm

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There's always something 4-D with Trump's thinking. What is it this time? I can't believe he just plain surrendered.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (13CQC)

124 Full hiatus. May or may not return from exile.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (5aX2M)

That is sad. If you meet him in meat space, please give him my best wishes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (QugKX)

125 I give kudos to anyone who coaches kids bc it is a difficult job, but I agree w the earlier comment that questioned why he didn't put the 5yo in earlier at 14-0. Rotating players so all the little kids can play just seems appropriate at that age.

Posted by: Ever at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (ZZDMQ)

126 >>extinct

Botflies.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (XzT/D)
* * * *

Rattlesnakes.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (TY826)

127 So exactly where those strippers in Columbus carrying their heat?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Uu+Jp)

128 The Odious RBG should go extinct... Soon...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (7WaWV)

129 >>Hillary is speaking to her thong supporters.

Paid to endorse the Feeldoe.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (XzT/D)

130 Until 1800 or so, there were Woods Bison in the east.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Pu/Kw)

131 The Singer 1911 is a classic, rare piece. If there is a WW3, i doubt Whastapp and Pewdiepie will be chipping in to make Sigs.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:41 PM (n13/j)

132 The Monterry Peninsula is a world famous golf resort so not really off the beaten path. Also, way outside my budget. I'm not planning any trips at the moment. I'm sort of between jobs. I gave a 2 week notice and will start a new job soon (whenever the sec clearance paper work mosy's through the glacial Fed Gov). I have a sec clearance but they don't follow you job to job all that easily. Because, Fed Gov.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:41 PM (6rRyd)

133 Penn State is trying to lose this game.

Need an OC? Because Mississippi State has a head coach they'd like to get a refund on.

Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (OMsf+)

134 51 Hey AOP I saw that your fellow Albertans were less than cordial to Scoldilocks
How dare you you have ruined her childhood

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (9TR2V)

135 >>I have a sec clearance but they don't follow you job to job all that easily. Because, Fed Gov.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:41 PM (6rRyd)

This is correct.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (XzT/D)

136 BYU QB is named Romney

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (EqKj1)

137 Hey everybody.

The Association - Never My Love

GREAT song MisHum... one of my favorites... I have the Association's greatest hits CD... but oh man does it make me feel old. It came out when I was 1, and just seems so 1960s-era dated to me. (Dated isn't always bad, it just fades things a bit sometimes.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (L2ZTs)

138 That is sad. If you meet him in meat space, please give him my best wishes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (QugKX)

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Secondhand knowledge. Apparently he's done with the internet presence for awhile. If he's lurking I'm sure he knows he's missed though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (5aX2M)

139 There's always something 4-D with Trump's thinking. What is it this time? I can't believe he just plain surrendered.

Camp David. Maybe the military gets to keep out our domestic enemies.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (nIvDu)

140 NFL ratings are back to 2016 levels. Junkies cant stay away. Also why they will keep coming back to the NBA.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (w9bLq)

141 When my dad was still alive I would put that on for him on Saturday night. That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

A classic spoof, by Stan Freberg:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=3g17vqRY6-w

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (QugKX)

142 I think Romney is pitching for the Yankees

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (aUjDc)

143 Most sports fans would give up food and water before they gave up watching.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (xPl2J)

144 Green fee at Pebble Beach is $550. If you stay at theLodge it is $500. Lodge is $800/night. 10 minutes away in Carmel you can get a good room for $150.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (jOEDM)

145 History will clearly show that Monica was an acceptable alternative to bedding the fatfuck sow Hillary!

Posted by: Bent dick Bill at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (yhf6w)

146 I wish so many things...on the plus side, these heel-less slippers from WalMart seem to be doing pretty well.
Oops a message from my backup program, so, see you. If you're not lucky.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (l9m7l)

147 123

********
I wonder if PT is going to reveal the Doral bid and compare to the new site cost to prove how ridiculous the hate towards him has gotten, to the point of costing the country money. I'm thinking a rally point. JMHO.

Posted by: Ever at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (ZZDMQ)

148 nerdygirl #116: ...Lawrence Welk... That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.

The best one
https://youtu.be/t8tdmaEhMHE

Posted by: mindful webworker - sweet Jesus! at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (qBbz7)

149 So exactly where those strippers in Columbus carrying their heat?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Uu+Jp)


Don't stick your dick in magazines

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

150 Is there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today?

I would guess Frank Zappa's early stuff (Freak Out! and Hot Rats), but I'm not familiar with those...

And for the Zappa fans here, a rarities set is coming out re Hot Rats for its 50th anniversary:

"The Hot Rats Sessions"
https://tinyurl.com/y2h2v4nm

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:45 PM (L2ZTs)

151 Good evening roonz and roonettez, what's everyone up to?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 19, 2019 10:46 PM (T8A10)

152 I had a brief exchange with the good doctor here a few evenings ago... He said he valued my opinion more than most doctors he'd worked with ( ! )...

Not worthy...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 10:46 PM (7WaWV)

153 Good evening roonz and roonettez, what's everyone up to?
Posted by: GGE
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It's gotten chilly here out west. Frost the other morning. You getting rain?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (Pu/Kw)

154 pas moi, the NBA and i are fin. The NFL can be ok but it doesn't have the same importance. They can't make me care again. I know go with baseball and golf. It has never been more clear that these are just businesses., just like the start up down the street. I understand why people care, it is part of our heritage. But the further these businesses stray from that, they risk losing out.

Hell, Millennials in particular care less about main stream sports than anyone.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)

155 There are some amazing golf courses in Montana and Idaho. And relatively cheap, by coastal standards. Also BC and Alberta. That whole area has incredible courses carved into mountains.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (w9bLq)

156 134 Albertan hospitality: https://tinyurl.com/y6mlbt48
https://tinyurl.com/y248tro7
O Canada!

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (9TR2V)

157 I'd love to golf at Bandon Dunes at some point. It's the SW coast of Oregon. Pricey but not nearly as pricey as Pebble Beach.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (6rRyd)

158 who would pay to see Hill and Chelsea..? Furries..?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (ZqRa6)

159 "there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today? "

bowie, space oddity

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (aUjDc)

160 Did I just read something about Hillary in a thong?
Arrrg - my eyes.

Posted by: An Observation at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (3HBUR)

161 Good evening horde. The Redneck Yacht Club is having their end of summer party this evening. My wife and I went for a while, it was fun. I bit my tongue and didn't mention summer has been done for nearly a month.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (f9A2A)

162 It's gotten chilly here out west. Frost the other morning. You getting rain?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (Pu/Kw)


Yep, got some today, it was nice yesterday and Friday but we had rain Thursday. It was in the 70s all week but the rain knocked the temperatures back down into the 60's. Looks like fall has fallen all over us.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 19, 2019 10:49 PM (T8A10)

163 >>>56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment

When my boys were at the age of "tweens, till driving themselves" they knew if they acted up in my car that Mommy would put her polka tapes in the player and be blasting it at top volume with the windows down as they arrived at school in the morning and blazing it in the parking lot in the afternoon..

They behaved.


Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:50 PM (RfzVr)

164 "there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today? "


How about Rainy night in Georgia?

Posted by: An Observation at October 19, 2019 10:50 PM (3HBUR)

165 156 Fuck yeah Alberta the first place she ever got pushback

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (9TR2V)

166 My favorite Frank Zappa interview was his last, I believe by Connie Chung. He was on limited time due to cancer (prostate?) and she asked him why he is still smoking. He replied "because tobacco is my favorite vegetable"

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (KSBDE)

167 >>158 who would pay to see Hill and Chelsea..?

"Requiem For A Dream" Jennifer Connelly final-scene kinda thing? Or just boring, preachy lecture kinda thing?

The former? Sure. I'd pay to see that. Some things *must* be seen.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (XzT/D)

168 Thanks for ONT, mishum. 'Night, morons,

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (jYnPD)

169 164 "there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today? "


How about Rainy night in Georgia?
Posted by: An Observation



Some country music hits from that era, maybe? Glenn Campbell?

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (6rRyd)

170 cfomom 163
That's diabolical.
I like it.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (Tt761)

171 It has never been more clear that these are just businesses., just like the start up down the street. I understand why people care, it is part of our heritage.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)


People like rooting for laundry (team jerseys, etc.)

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (Y8PSl)

172 High in low 40s all weekend. Normal high is mid 50s. All the leaves are off trees already since it has been below freezing every night for the past week. That usually doesnt happen until well into Nov.

Fuck off Al Gore and especially the angry Swedish August. Fuck off to you in particular.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (w9bLq)

173 This course is 3 miles from my home in Alberta.

https://www.travelalberta.com/us/listings/ worlds-largest-golf-tee-1490/

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (QugKX)

174 Space Oddity - early Prog Rock

Rainy Night In Georgia - early Philly Soul (I think)

I was also grooving on the Moody Blues last night. I remember as a 15-year-old in 1981 being very surprised that this "hippie group" (that's how I thought of them) was doing so well with their comeback. I had an art teacher in junior high who liked to play their original stuff during class...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (L2ZTs)

175 laundry, like how Alvarez just shat himself at the plate?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:54 PM (aUjDc)

176 I've noticed a lot of late 1960s songs point to the 1970s, and a lot of late 1970s songs point to the 1980s.

Cases in point: I'd bet most people think Rainy Night In Georgia is a 70s song. It came out late 1960s.

And Gary Numan's Cars, as well as a lot of Blondie's early stuff, actually came out in the late 1970s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:54 PM (L2ZTs)

177 The courses in the Banff area are wow!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (w9bLq)

178 This photo was taken by the Baron's Bolshevik captors, after his final, failed Siberian offensive. Behold the stoic defiance. Right before they shot him, he shoved his Order of St. George in his mouth and chewed up the medal, so they couldn't take it is a trophy.

I hope to have such a demeanor, when the Communists take me.

https://tinyurl.com/yy6opeq5

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (5aX2M)

179 If you love cats and dogs, you will go to heaven.

If ONLY cats, it might take a moment longer. For you.
Thank you MisHum for another great ONT

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (l9m7l)

180 I would've fined the coach.

Playing only starters until two mintues were left. He intentionally ran up the score to satisfy his own ego.

I'm not at all surprised he had kids who had never played before. This jackass would've made them sit on the bench all season if he could've.

Posted by: Sjg at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (gDSJf)

181 Just got back to our hotel room after the Texas MoMe - what fun we had! Finally got to put faces to names, are some great food, and got to shoot a machine gun!

Yes, there are pictures, and yes, they can be posted - who's gonna mess with a gal who shot a machine gun?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (CQ8KO)

182 I played Torrey Pines once and thought it was waaaaaay overrated. Nice views sure, but kinda disappointed after all they hype about it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:56 PM (w9bLq)

183 actually, I think the only reason some people might pay to see Hillary is because she might fall down and crap herself. Selfies for everyone!

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (ZqRa6)

184 No updates from Andy Ngo on the Hillary and Chelsea festivities in Portland.

Perhaps he expired from boredom.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (I2/tG)

185 mallfly: if Hillary falls down and craps herself, your ticket at her next event is free! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (L2ZTs)

186 This course is 3 miles from my home in Alberta.

https://www.travelalberta.com/us/listings/ worlds-largest-golf-tee-1490/
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (QugKX)
* * * *

That's one huge tee!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (TY826)

187 Where will these pictures of MoMe be posted?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (KSBDE)

188 >>Playing only starters until two mintues were left. He intentionally ran up the score to satisfy his own ego.

The 'Melian Dialogue' made real for kids. Children should learn at an early age what is to get the ass-whuppin'.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (XzT/D)

189 cfomom 163
That's diabolical.
I like it.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (Tt761)


I brought back a tape of Turkish music years ago. My kids hated it.
Hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (axyOa)

190 Where will these pictures of MoMe be posted?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (KSBDE)


On post office walls.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (Y8PSl)

191 Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)

I still like watching sportsball events. But I do not attach my ego to any one team. Except the Vikings! Vikings!

Not really. I like the game. But I do not talk sports the next Monday.

if the Vikings win, yay!. if not, they still get enormous paychecks.

I guess my point is this: I like watching football. And hockey. And baseball.

I spend little to no money on "The Product." So boycotting would amount to nothing more than me feeling smug about something.

I do plenty of that outside of sportsball.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (x8Wzq)

192 Did PantyFa show up at the Hillz and Chubz bun-toss in Portland?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (QugKX)

193 did the Baron secure an independent Mongolia?

Mongolia, Tibet, and Manchuria were all claimed by the Qing Emperor . post revolution China didn't hold those territories. after WW2 , China had Manchuria back, Mao took Tibet.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (aUjDc)

194

The Saturday Night Joke


That reminds me of Ed Norton referring to himself as a subterranean aquatic engineer. What does that mean? I work in the sewers

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (CEK6U)

195 After my grandma died, my mom and her sisters inherited Gerber stock that had sat for years growing in value.

I should check and see what their stock's worth these days. Gerber's been sold a number of times since Frank Gerber started it. Nestle, Novartis, etc.

My dad was Gerber's head instrument tech for quite a few years until he retired. Maternal grandfather and his first cousin (both Kingsfords) worked there and the latter is in the photo of the 1930's vintage car Gerber used for their early sales.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (7s3Gx)

196 Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Glad you enjoyed.
And your observations about the pets seem spot on

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (aA3+G)

197 One of the best comments about Scoldilocks on Yahoo News:

"Didn't I once see her in a horror flick?"

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (+lVUW)

198 Doral no longer a G7 meeting option.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm



========



There's always something 4-D with Trump's thinking. What is it this time? I can't believe he just plain surrendered.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (13CQC)

put it in the worst section of a big city. I think Trump simply did not realize how badly everyone was going to go after him at every turn. They moved the PGA Tour even out of Doral and put it in Mexico. i have no problem with and even in Mexico, i think it is pretty cool really. But the people against Trump will do anything and everything to otherise him. They think it is ok to trash him and all near him incessantly and we will not respond in kind when a lefty Dem gets in

I don't think Doral is a big issue here but what is an issue is how easy it is to stop the president when he wants to do something. I don't recall that being so easy when Obama was in office. Repubs used to say how hard it was to oppose him and they did their best.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (n13/j)

199 My sports watching is mostly golf and racing. Indycars and IMSA seasons are over. NHRA and F1 are still going on. Indifferent to NASCAR. I'm not sure the pro golf season ever ends.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (6rRyd)

200 >>I guess my point is this: I like watching football. And hockey. And baseball.

Yep. And no self-important grandstander (or whiny embargo-fanatic scold) is going to convince Zod not to watch another Redskins losing season, either.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:02 PM (XzT/D)

201 Hello how was your day, Dear?

It rained all day today. The drought is over!

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2019 11:02 PM (CxzJp)

202 Repubs used to say how hard it was to oppose him and they did their best lied.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (n13/j)


Gotta love all the virtue signaling from the pols of the president's party. As if the left will hate them any less.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (Y8PSl)

203 So glad to hear the reports of the spectacular Mo Me. So jealous also. Looking to hear more details as the bedraggled come to and are able to post.

Next year. I am already planning. Gonna take the Texas Eagle there and back (Hubby and I do not fly.)

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (RfzVr)

204 No updates from Andy Ngo on the Hillary and Chelsea festivities in Portland.

Perhaps he expired from boredom.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (I2/tG)


He'll be found tomorrow floating face down in the Williamette River with two gunshot wounds to the back of the head. Ruling will be suicide.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (axyOa)

205 TJM, if you're out there: sorry I missed the movie thread this week. I've been meaning to tell you all about Haxan coming to blu-ray.

I also wanted to mention, Criterion is releasing Fail-Safe on blu-ray and DVD early in 2020.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:04 PM (L2ZTs)

206 I don't recall that being so easy when Obama was in office. Repubs used to say how hard it was to oppose him and they did their best.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (n13/j)

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Of course that's what they said.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (XVuno)

207 did the Baron secure an independent Mongolia?

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Yes. They called him the White God of War because his forces liberated Kutuktu (the Living Buddha) from the Chinese and placed him back on the throne. But it was short lived.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (5aX2M)

208 When my boys were at the age of "tweens, till
driving themselves" they knew if they acted up in my car that Mommy
would put her polka tapes in the player and be blasting it at top volume
with the windows down as they arrived at school in the morning and
blazing it in the parking lot in the afternoon..

They behaved.




Posted by: cfo mom

........


I love it!
Beer Barrel Polka! A-One A-Two A-three!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (438dO)

209 Yep. And no self-important grandstander (or whiny embargo-fanatic scold) is going to convince Zod not to watch another Redskins losing season, either.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:02 PM (XzT/D)

yeah man. Vikings are doing well so far. Can't wait for them to disappoint me again.

*DEVIL HORNS*

*LT Speers voice* "It's all just a game. You're already dead."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (x8Wzq)

210 199: NHRA is the craziest, most fan friendly, form of motorsports, in person. Been to all the others, nitro drag racing is insane.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (KP5rU)

211 (Hubby and I do not fly.)

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM



*fistbump

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 11:06 PM (7WaWV)

212 It rained most of the day here as well. No drought here. Had a bunch off outside things to do that didn't get done

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

213 Next year. I am already planning. Gonna take the Texas Eagle there and back (Hubby and I do not fly.)
Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (RfzVr)

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With a well-designed trebuchet, you would fly.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (XVuno)

214 When my boys were at the age of "tweens, till
driving themselves" they knew if they acted up in my car that Mommy
would put her polka tapes in the player and be blasting it at top volume
with the windows down as they arrived at school in the morning and
blazing it in the parking lot in the afternoon..


They behaved.




Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:50 PM (RfzVr)

My dad would make us, lovers of hard rock, listen to ABBA as punishment. If we were really, really bad, we had to listen to the whole record album. Yes, he would drag out the record player just to torment us. He now denies it happened, even though it's four testamonies against one, but I think he's just avoiding being tried for war crimes under the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (XKZwp)

215 CFO Mom and Zettai:

As I've mentioned here before, I flew for the very first time in my life 3 times last year: Long Beach to Sacramento, Sacto to Denver, Denver to Long Beach.

I'm glad I did it finally... but I'm not really very excited to repeat the experience. If I never fly again, meh.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (L2ZTs)

216 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....!

went to refresh the HQ this AM, only to get a screen that the satellite wasn't paid...

not of burning importance to Resident 3vil, it was only restored a few minutes ago.

and people ask me why i drink.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (P0DGT)

217 210: Maybe next year. The NHRA went to Richmond, VA this year. I assume they'll show up next year too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (6rRyd)

218 today was a wasted day. didn't go to bed until 4 am.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (KP5rU)

219
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)



I still like watching sportsball events. But I do not attach my ego to any one team. Except the Vikings! Vikings!



Not really. I like the game. But I do not talk sports the next Monday.



if the Vikings win, yay!. if not, they still get enormous paychecks.



I guess my point is this: I like watching football. And hockey. And baseball.



I spend little to no money on "The Product." So boycotting would amount to nothing more than me feeling smug about something.



I do plenty of that outside of sportsball.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (x8Wzq)
understood. Don't change. The Left wants nothing more than for you and me to change. They want us to abandon cultural tent posts. But the NFL means less to me as they have chosen to be more divisive and less of an American constant. Look at late night tv. Years ago, late night hosts brought the country together. It was late and nothing else was on. We had to share the same experience. Now, almost no conservatives watch late night tv. And the funny thing is, we are not missing anything.

But again, root for your NFL team. I still want my team to win on Sunday. Unfortunately it just doesn't matter as much as it did once.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (n13/j)

220 The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a
pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it
sexually.





I'll allow it.

Posted by: Judge Pornhub at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (RbeRr)

221 what is a good book about 1918 Khan?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (aUjDc)

222 In spite of all the resistance and impediments, Trump is making good on his campaign promises.
2 Supremes and over 150 Federal judges will make for a more conservative future for a generation.

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (0bwIz)

223 OffBeat Cinema is showing White Zombie.

I wonder is White Zombie's have privilege over the Zombies of Colour.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (oVJmc)

224 Pets define us.
Dogs love us more than we deserve.

Cats love us...on their terms. Which we are always SO eager to meet.

Dog and cats are our true masters. Some day, we'll recognize that.

Thanks again MisHum.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (l9m7l)

225 As I've mentioned here before, I flew for the very first time in my life 3 times last year: Long Beach to Sacramento, Sacto to Denver, Denver to Long Beach.

I'm glad I did it finally... but I'm not really very excited to repeat the experience. If I never fly again, meh.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (L2ZTs)

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Steve, Sacramento was your big mistake, flying there ruins it for a lot of people, sometimes for good.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (XVuno)

226 148 nerdygirl #116: ...Lawrence Welk... That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.

The best one
https://youtu.be/t8tdmaEhMHE
Posted by: mindful webworker - sweet Jesus!


So, Geritol and medical marijuana.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (+lVUW)

227 I love flying in airplanes.

I loathe air travel.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)

228 Did PantyFa show up at the Hillz and Chubz bun-toss in Portland?

They were busy today engaging in the most Portland of activities - a strike by a militant burger worker's union, which is part of the International Workers of The World. (I am not making this up.)

Among other things, the union is demanding a five buck an hour raise, full medical benefits for all (including part-time workers), and the right to wear left-wing propaganda on the job.

The workers put up a "picket line", which consisted of refusing to let anyone into the restaurant for a couple of hours, and refusing to let anyone use the driven. The cops did nothing, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (I2/tG)

229 Good evening, Horde, and Thanks, MisHum for another rollicking ONT.

LOVE the SNJ - will definitely be using that.

I do have a MIL update, but it's late and we just got home. Mom's doing okay, all things considered, but has been diagnosed with breast cancer (no details on stage, etc). Had left ankle operated on yesterday, and is currently in step-down from ICU.

Unfortunately, her SO isn't faring as well: he transitioned to Hospice this afternoon. The two units' nurses thoughtfully arranged for Mom to visit with him one last time: they help hands and tried to look at each other. It was the most beautiful, heartbreaking things I've ever witnessed.

Finally, our breast cancer walk this morning was wonderful, and out little team ended up #2 in fundraising among over 400 teams total. And your humble ibguy ended up #7 in the individual standings, among some 2,600.

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (EHVbt)

230 pookysgirl, I actually *like* the Abba albums Super Trouper and The Visitors.

The Visitors ends with a surprisingly touching IMHO song about death, called Like An Angel Passing Through My Room. Kind of haunting.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (L2ZTs)

231 I developed a fear of flying late in life and spontaneously for reasons I can't explain... I never really liked flying before but it was tolerable...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (7WaWV)

232 puddlegum, richmond is on the schedule for next year. you won't forget nitro drag racing if you are a gearhead.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (KP5rU)

233 Cicero, LOL.
If it helps I never left the airport, which as it turns out is a distance away from the city proper.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (L2ZTs)

234 229 moi

Sorry for the typos, just a VERY long day.

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (EHVbt)

235 today I got up early, had coffee, did a poop, went to the gym, had breakfast, and then... went back to bed.
and then it was 2:45 pm.
not a wasted day exactly but where did the time go?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (aUjDc)

236 Faith Goldy is kinda super-hot when she says "aboot"

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (9TR2V)

237 i've been to a strip club twice, i think, the last time a small, fairly grungy place - the stripper took interest in me, eyeing me as a mark, probably, but was definitely dancing to my benefit, which got the attention of a biker type down the bar, who gave me about the worst death-stare i've ever seen - her boyfriend? - there was a lot of tension in the air, i finished my drink and got out of there. the better part of valor and all.

Posted by: mjc at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (Pg+x7)

238 True story

Only listened to ABBA Gold

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (EqKj1)

239 "The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it sexually."


Man, don't tell me you can't even put your faith in porn.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (oVJmc)

240 I've only read one book about him - "The Bloody White Baron," by James Palmer. It was pretty good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (5aX2M)

241 I might get into the professional bull riding association. They don't seem likely to go full lefty for some reason.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (n13/j)

242 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/yxlcozxq

https://tinyurl.com/yxj743pb

https://tinyurl.com/y4carjzb

https://tinyurl.com/y5f37evq

Posted by: kbdabear at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (qAR6u)

243 The workers put up a "picket line", which consisted
of refusing to let anyone into the restaurant for a couple of hours, and
refusing to let anyone use the driven. The cops did nothing, of
course.


Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (I2/tG)

Send in Scrubs Guy from yesterday's post. He'll break up the line.

"GTFO! I gotta get back to work! WTF is wrong with you people?!"

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (XKZwp)

244 227 I love flying in airplanes.

I loathe air travel.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)

---------

1. TSA Pre-Check
2. Asian carrier
3. Business class

You're in like Flynn.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (XVuno)

245 Abba also had a non-hit song on the album Super Trouper, called On And On And On.

Kind of funny. It pokes fun at what passed for 'night life' in the late 1970s/early 1980s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (L2ZTs)

246 Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (


You're forgiven


This time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (aA3+G)

247 The cops did nothing, of course.

It's been eight days now, and the Portland cops have still made no arrests in the case of the Antifa-guy killed by an SUV riddled with bullet holes, and have yet to provide any explanation of what happened, thereby complying with Antifa's demand that no one talk to the news media.

I thought better of the Portland Police Bureau, but my level of cynicism is rapidly rising.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (I2/tG)

248 >>>With a well-designed trebuchet, you would fly.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (XVuno)

That might actually be fun! Airlines, not so much.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (RfzVr)

249 Antifa=mafia.
RICO time.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:14 PM (aUjDc)

250 Good evening, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:14 PM (vQ89V)

251 You guys and gals are all great. I love all of you.

If you were dogs and cats, I'd pet all of you. You dogs would love being petted. You cats would pretend to hate every moment of being petted, but would actually love every moment and would scratch if such moments were interrupted.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:15 PM (l9m7l)

252 Boss dragged me to The Diamond by the San Diego airport.

Hottest strippers

Worst was dragged to strip club in Ensanada Mexico on same work trip, not hot there

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 11:15 PM (EqKj1)

253 PS I am not actually a cat.

DAMN IT.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:15 PM (l9m7l)

254 249 Antifa=mafia.
RICO time.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:14 PM (aUjDc)

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RICO assumes they have assets to take.

A box of Kleenex and a premium subscription to pornhub aren't assets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:16 PM (XVuno)

255 ladyl!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:16 PM (KP5rU)

256 They were busy today engaging in the most Portland
of activities - a strike by a militant burger worker's union, which is
part of the International Workers of The World. (I am not making this
up.)


Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM


Holy shit, what a bunch of self-entitled, economically illiterate freaks.

https://twitter.com/BVWkrUnion

Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (OMsf+)

257 Hey fappers.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

258 I've been commuting across the Minnesota River valley for almost 30 years. Within the last 10 I'd probably see a bald eagle once a month. Over the last couple years it's almost a daily occurrence. It's really something.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (4UlPP)

259 RICO assumes they have assets to take.

Two kinds of Antifa people: broke losers, and trust fund babies (like Tim Kaine's kid).

Don't assume that they don't have assets.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (I2/tG)

260 ibguy, that is so sad. Prayers being said for all involved. May God give peace.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (RfzVr)

261 Chavez!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (vQ89V)

262 eyeing me as a mark, probably,"

"She belong to that man Jose"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (6qErC)

263 "According to court documents, the Columbus Division of Police began covert surveillance of the premises earlier this summer, obtaining evidence of illegal drug and alcohol sales."

I wonder how many beejers and lines of coke the vice cops went through before they decided they had enough evidence...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (NWiLs)

264 Hey fappers.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

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*high five*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XVuno)

265 246 MisHum

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (EHVbt)

266 >>a militant burger worker's union

Haha.

I said 'no pickles,' prole.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XzT/D)

267 I thought she belonged to Bad Man Jose

Posted by: Texican ette at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (xQ9Ht)

268 *high five*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XVuno)

Uh, would you mind washing your hands first? Just in case.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (NWiLs)

269 Pro Tip: Never let a commie make your burger.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:20 PM (XVuno)

270 250 LadyL

Hey, Big Sis!

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:20 PM (EHVbt)

271 If you were dogs and cats, I'd pet all of you"

Rawr...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 19, 2019 11:20 PM (6qErC)

272 Ibguy-I'm so sorry about your mom's friend. Praying for your mom, her friend and your families.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:20 PM (vQ89V)

273 I might get into the professional bull riding association. They don't seem likely to go full lefty for some reason.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (n13/j)
* * * *

They would be dead last to lean lefty.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (TY826)

274 I thought she belonged to Bad Man Jose"

At the little cafe.

Just south of the border

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (6qErC)

275 260 cfo mom

Thank you, ma'am. It is indeed.

We don't know if she really 'gets it' yet. Time will tell.

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (EHVbt)

276 >>the stripper took interest in me, eyeing me as a mark

(squats, spits)

Is whore. How much for the mouth-work?

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (XzT/D)

277 {{{Ibguy}}}

Li'l bro...

Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (vQ89V)

278 268 *high five*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XVuno)

Uh, would you mind washing your hands first? Just in case.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (NWiLs)

---------

*wipes hand on curtain*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (XVuno)

279 Wouldn't it be GREAT to carve out YOUR OWN destiny. no MATTER what shape that destiny happened to form.

PS: no kittens

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:21 PM (l9m7l)

280
I think Trump simply did not realize how badly everyone was going to go after him at every turn.
...

Posted by: Quint

=======

If that's the case, I'm disappointed in him.

I still hope there's something 4-D about it. Probably the other G7 leaders were pumped about going to Doral and now figure damn, another stodgy old 5-star they've probably already been to instead of one of Trump's ultra-cool cribs. Then next year they'll all BEG to go to one of Trump's places.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 11:22 PM (13CQC)

281 pookysgirl, I actually *like* the Abba albums Super Trouper and The Visitors.




The Visitors ends with a surprisingly touching IMHO song about
death, called Like An Angel Passing Through My Room. Kind of haunting.


Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (L2ZTs)

I don't remember what album(s) we were forced to listen to, I must have blocked it from my memory. We were hard rock children, my parents were... not. My mother once took a meat tenderizer to a cassette of my brother's that she had previously forbidden. (To be fair, the lyrics were objectionable.)
If you wanted to argue for certain music, your argument had better be solid, with music theory to back it up. I still remember a heated discussion on the harmonization of one song on the radio-and that was between my parents! I had a bizarre childhood, but in retrospect, arguing was a form of love.

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 11:25 PM (XKZwp)

282 Ibguy-I'm so sorry about your mom's friend. Praying for your mom, her friend and your families.
Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:20 PM (vQ89V)
* * * *

Ditto.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:25 PM (TY826)

283 Been to all the others, nitro drag racing is insane.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
-------
Speaking of nitro, I've been in the pits at Indy during qualifying. Burning eyes and lungs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 11:26 PM (Pu/Kw)

284 I know a bunch of wine moms.

All super cool and fun

What I missing?
Posted by: Yo

Same

Posted by: Pualo at October 19, 2019 11:27 PM (B7KlG)

285 Hey Beckoning Chasm. Another week behind us.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 11:29 PM (n4y+3)

286 283; Hammer, breakfast of champions. NHRA is as far from left as you will see. Last weekend, lot of drivers wearing MAGA hats for their interviews after winning.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:29 PM (KP5rU)

287 Finally, our breast cancer walk this morning was wonderful, and out
little team ended up #2 in fundraising among over 400 teams total. And
your humble ibguy ended up #7 in the individual standings, among some
2,600.

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (EHVbt)

Never, never, never quit! My thoughts are with you. I have seen things i wish I hadn't when loved ones suffer. The fundraising part is inspirational. We all need to be reminded to never quit, i know i do.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:29 PM (n13/j)

288 Here's another great photo, that shows the other side of the coin.

NKVD agent in the Karelian during the Winter War defiantly laughing at his fate, in the hands of his Finnish captors:

https://tinyurl.com/y8rxht5d

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:29 PM (5aX2M)

289 I know a bunch of wine moms."

Pics?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 19, 2019 11:30 PM (6qErC)

290 220 The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a
pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it
sexually.

Man, don't tell me you can't even put your faith in porn.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (oVJmc)


I have a pet theory that part of the reason the South Asian migrants get all rapey when they get to the West is that they watch too much porn and think it's real.

You get raised being told the women in Europe and America are all uncovered prostitutes and whores, then you watch movies with the western women acting like whores and you show up expecting BJs are like handshakes.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:31 PM (jp0Bv)

291 Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (EHVbt)

Wow, no words.

I'm glad the fundraiser went well for you.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at October 19, 2019 11:32 PM (f9A2A)

292 Ibguy - so sorry to read that about your mom's friend. I was pulling for him to make it through this.

Posted by: IC at October 19, 2019 11:32 PM (3SIip)

293 I know a bunch of wine moms.
Pics?

$$$

Posted by: Judge Pornhub at October 19, 2019 11:34 PM (RbeRr)

294 NKVD agent in the Karelian during the Winter War defiantly laughing at his fate, in the hands of his Finnish captors:

https://tinyurl.com/y8rxht5d
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:29 PM (5aX2M)

You'd have thought they'd take that nice greatcoat off him before shooting him, so as not get blood all over it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:34 PM (QugKX)

295 If that's the case, I'm disappointed in him.



I still hope there's something 4-D about it. Probably the other G7
leaders were pumped about going to Doral and now figure damn, another
stodgy old 5-star they've probably already been to instead of one of
Trump's ultra-cool cribs. Then next year they'll all BEG to go to one of
Trump's places.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 11:22 PM (13CQC)

we see it all the time. The only way to stop the lefty madness is to stand up to it. There is really no other option. The more you lay down the more they want.

I am not blaming Trump. I would have thrown in the towel long ago. He has has made mistakes for sure and there are things i would change if I were he. But this man has been attack incessantly since long before he took office. These people are the least original people in human history. We know they will go on full blast over everything and they never disappoint. I guess they never heard it helps to be original some times. My guess is President Trump has other battles to fight, but that is just a guess. I hope he is playing them. They are so linear they should be able to be played easily.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:35 PM (n13/j)

296 Ibguy-Its a horrible thing for both families. I hadn't heard of the breast cancer diagnosis. Prayers for all of you.

Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 11:36 PM (2GZs0)

297
Peace out.

night

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (EqKj1)

298 and you show up expecting BJs are like handshakes"

I'll shake hands. The rest?

Nah

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (6qErC)

299 night, Yo!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (KP5rU)

300
You know, my ideas of where something goes in a kitchen and the universe is ideas of where something goes in a kitchen are so often not the same idea.

Its dramatically compounded by the fact that this kitchen with designed by an orangutan with a significant Trisomy mutation and expensive hallucinogenic mushroom habit...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (UFLLM)

301 For a while I have been considering a California flag that the silhouette of the Shasta Ground Sloth on it.
Can't find one in production . . . Can't imagine why.

the comeback of the bald eagle has been amazing. Last week I was crossing the Willamette on a bridge and looked down river, and spotted an adult bald eagle in one of the cottonwoods on the bank. When I was a kid that would have made the papers.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (xG/b0)

302 You'd have thought they'd take that nice greatcoat off him before shooting him, so as not get blood all over it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:34 PM (QugKX)

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Meh, they were busy.

And I doubt Finnish soldiers in the Karelian meatgrinder would turn their noses up at a soiled coat.

BTW, the Finns refused to release that photo til about ten years ago, for fear it would embolden Russians.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:41 PM (5aX2M)

303 ...bald eagles...

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (xG/b0)

I stopped by a friend's business several months ago. It is near the intersection of Rte 46, the Garden State Parkway, and Rte 20 in northern NJ. Definitely not rural

A fucking bald eagle was cruising around!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 19, 2019 11:41 PM (wYseH)

304 For a while I have been considering a California flag that the silhouette of the Shasta Ground Sloth on it.
Can't find one in production . . . Can't imagine why.

the comeback of the bald eagle has been amazing. Last week I was crossing the Willamette on a bridge and looked down river, and spotted an adult bald eagle in one of the cottonwoods on the bank. When I was a kid that would have made the papers.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (xG/b0)

Ground Sloth makes yummy burgers. You can do 'em in the slow cooker.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:42 PM (QugKX)

305 LOL Alberta Oil Peon.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 11:43 PM (n4y+3)

306 Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 19, 2019 11:37 PM (UFLLM)

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Umm, watcha vaping tonight?

*edges toward door*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:43 PM (XVuno)

307 And then there was dancing...


God help us all...

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (igaOn)

308 I have a pet theory that part of the reason the South Asian migrants get all rapey when they get to the West is that they watch too much porn and think it's real.

You get raised being told the women in Europe and America are all uncovered prostitutes and whores, then you watch movies with the western women acting like whores and you show up expecting BJs are like handshakes.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:31 PM (jp0Bv)
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Sounds plausible. I would couple that with their cultural belief that men are weak-willed and allowed to become sex-crazed animals by simply seeing a woman who is not covered head to toe in a black sack (and that it is the woman's fault they are driven this way).

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (TY826)

309 lotsa bald eagles along the Yellowstone

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (CMq2e)

310 You'd have thought they'd take that nice greatcoat off him before shooting him, so as not get blood all over it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

The Finn's had a lot of Russian agreat coats

Posted by: Pualo at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (B7KlG)

311 I've seen bald eagles along the superslab near the river in southern Newyorkistan...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (7WaWV)

312 Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (igaOn)

{{{SMH}}}
I knew I was going to regret leaving so early!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 19, 2019 11:45 PM (rQnTU)

313 Ground Sloth makes yummy burgers. You can do 'em in the slow cooker.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:42 PM (QugKX)

Alright, that there is funny.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at October 19, 2019 11:45 PM (f9A2A)

314 I once shot an elephant in my pajamas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:46 PM (XVuno)

315 Arroz Caldo. Cute little Filipina spinner who hangs around is a killer cook...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 19, 2019 11:46 PM (UFLLM)

316 307 And then there was dancing...

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Dancing? Or, "dancing"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (XVuno)

317 I think the bald eagle is doing quite well. We all picture him soaring over a canyon out west somewhere. But they have bald eagle preserves in the East too. I think they are doing well.

The White Tailed Deer has come back so strongly as to be a nuisance. I think people realize the issue with deer. But I wonder if they realize how large the population is to what we had decades ago. For real, if you shot a nice buck in 1930, that would get into a small town paper. I read yeas ago that Texas has ten times the deer population the USA had 90 years ago.

The lefty greens talk about the good ol days but they have not freaking clue.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (n13/j)

318 Fire's still burning Hrothgar.

Come back...

Come.

Back.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (igaOn)

319 TXMoMe is winding down

Ben Had and I did an Angel From Montgomery duet as promised

Posted by: hogmartin at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (tH42J)

320 I once shot an elephant in my pajamas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:46 PM (XVuno)


Okay, I'll bite: How did an elephant get inside your pajamas?

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (Y8PSl)

321 evening

seven nation army by the white stripes

https://youtu.be/0J2QdDbelmY


Do you like it?

Posted by: booknlass at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (xIKXj)

322 I once shot an elephant in my pajamas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:46 PM (XVuno)

Too late. He probably already stretched the waistband so badly they won't stay up any more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (QugKX)

323 What is the genetic condition of North American Bison today if there were only 325 animals remaining in the late 1880s? By definition, there would be no more than 112 possible mating pairs even if you assume none of those 325 animals were siblings.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (+Kpte)

324 Hey SMH

Posted by: hogmartin at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (tH42J)

325 Cicero...

If I told you, I'd have to kill you.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (igaOn)

326 Houston trying to clinch the series, up 4-2 in the 8th, one on and Gurriel hits a single out to right - all the announcers talk about is how Judge took a step to get in front of it and gosh how hard that is to do to make that play and blah blah blah. Houston will play Washington in the World Series and they'll still be talking about the Yankees.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 19, 2019 11:49 PM (4UlPP)

327 *glares at hogmartin*

Smart ass.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:49 PM (igaOn)

328 Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (igaOn)

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Gotcha.

*wink*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:50 PM (XVuno)

329 For real, if you shot a nice buck in 1930, that would get into a small town paper. I read yeas ago that Texas has ten times the deer population the USA had 90 years ago.

The lefty greens talk about the good ol days but they have not freaking clue.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (n13/j)

Probably why chronic wasting disease has jumped from Congress to the deer population; just too many of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:50 PM (QugKX)

330 Smart ass.
Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:49 PM (igaOn)

*waves*

Posted by: hogmartin at October 19, 2019 11:50 PM (tH42J)

331 A fucking bald eagle was cruising around!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 19, 2019 11:41 PM (wYseH)
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Chickens, or otters?

*ducks to avoid getting hit*

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:51 PM (TY826)

332 "JQ, the paint is coming off the kitchen walls... wtf?! How much garlic DID you put in the pot roast?"

"A bit, because we both love garlic."

*tastes roast* ----- *hmmmm*

"Tastes good to me, honey."

(sigh)

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 11:52 PM (gP/Z3)

333 *ducks to avoid getting hit*
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:51 PM (TY826)

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You're on your own, man.

Posted by: The Ducks at October 19, 2019 11:52 PM (XVuno)

334 Ibguy

Prayers up your "crew" for from here. You are a great example for many of others!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 19, 2019 11:52 PM (rQnTU)

335 Sounds plausible. I would couple that with their cultural belief that men are weak-willed and allowed to become sex-crazed animals by simply seeing a woman who is not covered head to toe in a black sack (and that it is the woman's fault they are driven this way).
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:44 PM (TY826)

Oh yeah. It's just one facet of the incompatibility of the two cultures.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:53 PM (jp0Bv)

336 330 Smart ass.
Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:49 PM (igaOn)

*waves*
Posted by: hogmartin at

It's always so sad when people opt to read their devices at social events rather than talk.

Duck. Runs. Now that i'm wearing my boots.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 19, 2019 11:54 PM (1gZ9R)

337 "too much garlic"

...sorry, I don't understand these words in that order.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:54 PM (L2ZTs)

338 *runs for her life*

HELP!

Hogmartin is rabid!

Or drunk...dunno...but still...

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 11:54 PM (igaOn)

339 I actually like this one better

Ball and Biscuit

https://youtu.be/urEeUMqRhA4

Posted by: booknlass at October 19, 2019 11:54 PM (xIKXj)

340 Hogmartin's okay. He just had some of the 7-Eleven hooch.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:55 PM (L2ZTs)

341 My muscles are sore tonight, back especially. Spent too many hours working the wooden-lever backhoe. Filled in one hole, then dug up my now-dormant rhubarb plant and moved it. That sucker had tap roots 3 inches in diameter!

Then continued digging where the rhubarb plant used to be, in an effort to get down to the portion of the exterior flange on the septic tank where it appears to leak.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:55 PM (QugKX)

342 seven nation army by the white stripes

https://youtu.be/0J2QdDbelmY


Do you like it?
Posted by: booknlass at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (xIKXj)
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There's one out there of them performing this and Death Letter at the Grammys that is outstanding. A whole lot of sound from 2 people. Bonus rambling intro from Beck too.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 19, 2019 11:55 PM (4UlPP)

343 Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 19, 2019 11:48 PM (+Kpte)

No math on Saturday night ONT, please!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 19, 2019 11:56 PM (rQnTU)

344 For real, if you shot a nice buck in 1930, that
would get into a small town paper. I read yeas ago that Texas has ten
times the deer population the USA had 90 years ago.



The lefty greens talk about the good ol days but they have not freaking clue.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:47 PM (n13/j)



Probably why chronic wasting disease has jumped from Congress to the deer population; just too many of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:50 PM (QugKX)

Lots of lefty areas where they don't allow hunting. The deer suffer from starvation and disease. A lot of people get into car accidents too. Damn the lefties are dumb.

As for Congress, there are likely too many but my view is to limit their time spent scewing us over. They are a congress, a meeting. They should meet for a short period and then go the freak home. It should not be a primary job. It should be a meeting to get some things done and them go home.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:56 PM (n13/j)

345 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:55 PM (QugKX)
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Good luck with that, AOP.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:56 PM (TY826)

346 The North American Crocodiles were nearly extinct... But some Army base in Florida (IIRC) has a research reactor with a runoff moat that makes a perfect, warm brackish area for the crocs to hang out and breed, and they've bounced back to a population in the hundreds and growing.

The Army even changed the firing ranges once they figured out was going on, to protect them.

Plus: croc moat, and that's pretty awesome.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:57 PM (5aX2M)

347 Too many deer were hired as Congressional aides, and you know how it is with Congress Critters... a couple of side cars after hours, a little blow, the next thing you know your Congress Critter is on all fours singing John Deere Green... chronic wasting disease spreads to the deer and then you get a mass die-off.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 19, 2019 11:57 PM (UFLLM)

348 Good luck with that, AOP.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 11:56 PM (TY826)

Thanks!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:58 PM (QugKX)

349 quattuor quattuorque

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:59 PM (R6eDj)

350 I had no idea there were crocodiles in North America. I thought it was only alligators.

Sonofagun.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:59 PM (XVuno)

351 The Army even changed the firing ranges once they figured out was going on, to protect them.

Plus: croc moat, and that's pretty awesome.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:57 PM (5aX2M)

Crocodiles, as opposed to alligators? Crocs have broader jaws, or something?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:59 PM (QugKX)

352 Oh yeah. It's just one facet of the incompatibility of the two cultures.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:53 PM (jp0Bv)

No, no, no! That cannot be. My betters have road me repeatedly that Diversity is our strength!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 19, 2019 11:59 PM (rQnTU)

353 If Trump was only about free advertising/boosting of his Dural resort by wanting to host the G7 there then MSDNC et al did him a huge favor by making a big stink. Now I think he genuinely figured he could keep the damm pantifa anarchists away and give the G-7 a good time and productive meeting.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 20, 2019 12:00 AM (n4y+3)

354 Florida is fine, but not after you've developed a palate for Egyptians.

Posted by: An American Crocodile at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (XVuno)

355 Holy shit. Joe Buck is insufferable.

Posted by: free tibet at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (n/eZB)

356 Stros up

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (R6eDj)

357 If Trump was only about free advertising/boosting of his Dural resort by wanting to host the G7 there then MSDNC et al did him a huge favor by making a big stink. Now I think he genuinely figured he could keep the damm pantifa anarchists away and give the G-7 a good time and productive meeting.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 20, 2019 12:00 AM (n4y+3)

There's got to be a resort on an island somewhere. What about South Padre Island?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (QugKX)

358 Crocodiles have two cloacas...

Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (UFLLM)

359
Crocodiles, as opposed to alligators? Crocs have broader jaws, or something?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Caiman, I expect.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:03 AM (Pu/Kw)

360 358 Crocodiles have two cloacas...
Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (UFLLM)

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Go on...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2019 12:03 AM (XVuno)

361 Beats the chicken and marshmallows they feed us...

Posted by: Louisiana Swamp Tourist Alligator at October 20, 2019 12:04 AM (TY826)

362 Qdp-- oh, yeah-- garlic, FTW!!!!

But, um, there ain't enough mouthwash to make me & hubby presentable for, oh at *least* a week, lol!

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 12:04 AM (gP/Z3)

363 Caiman, I expect.

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Still Porsche's cheapest sports car.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (XVuno)

364 ... and the poor kitchen needs repainting anyway, right?

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (gP/Z3)

365 Caiman, I expect.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Which reminds me, while looking into Woods Bison, I noticed that Bison are being shipped from Alberta to Russia.

Collusion. It's only a matter of time until it is attached to Trudeau.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (Pu/Kw)

366 yankees tie it up .

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (B+t5k)

367 Caiman, I expect.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:03 AM (Pu/Kw)

Genetically engineer them to grow fur coats, and then turn loose a breeding population in Minneapolis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (QugKX)

368 >>Holy shit. Joe Buck is insufferable.


He's the worst.

But GO Yankees!

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (ypTww)

369 Caiman, I expect.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:03 AM (Pu/Kw

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Nope. NA Crocodiles. Rare as hell. Especially on the mainland. They've been relocating them to the Caribbean wherever possible, because they do better there, and there aren't as many people to kill them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (5aX2M)

370 Porsches have two cloacas?

Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (UFLLM)

371 what's an astro anyway ?

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (B+t5k)

372 Maldonado getting paid to miss pitches and take this to extra innings ? come on, man.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (R6eDj)

373 Genetically engineer them to grow fur coats, and then turn loose a breeding population in Minneapolis.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (QugKX)
* * * *

**snort**

Posted by: Louisiana Swamp Tourist Alligator at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (TY826)

374 Collusion. It's only a matter of time until it is attached to Trudeau.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:05 AM (Pu/Kw)

An alligator would look good, attached to Trudeau.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 12:07 AM (QugKX)

375 Yankee don't go home !

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:07 AM (B+t5k)

376 From YouTube videos I learned that golf courses are the natural habitat of American alligators.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2019 12:07 AM (XVuno)

377 Once one goes cloaca, he never goes back-a...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (7WaWV)

378 game is always "fixed" when your team is messing up. true story.

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (B+t5k)

379 There's got to be a resort on an island somewhere. What about South Padre Island?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 12:02 AM (QugKX)

that is a good idea. At leas the cops won't bow down and kow tow to Antifa. For sure it should be the reddest of states. Maybe area 51 just to screw with the left.

Posted by: Quint at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (n13/j)

380 370 Porsches have two cloacas?
Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (UFLLM)

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Not the base model.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (XVuno)

381 Pedo Island is probably available for the G7.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (a4EWo)

382
*runs for her life*

HELP!

Hogmartin is rabid!

Or drunk...dunno...but still...
Posted by: SMH

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Do we need to send a rescue party out there?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (13CQC)

383
Genetically engineer them to grow fur coats, and then turn loose a breeding population in Minneapolis.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I've mentioned the greenies suggestion to re-introduce the Red wolf to the environs of Chapel Hill, NC., in order to control the beaver population. Given that it is the hyper-Progressive home of UNC, I endorse the idea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:08 AM (Pu/Kw)

384 Do we need to send a rescue party out there?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Armed with dart guns.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 12:09 AM (Pu/Kw)

385 Local news chick kept saying "door ohl". Kids these days can't even pronounce cigarette brands correctly.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 12:09 AM (RuIsu)

386 SAVE THE BEAVER !

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:09 AM (B+t5k)

387 American crocodiles:

https://tinyurl.com/y575qhy8

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:10 AM (5aX2M)

388 and then there's this

Zep

17 March 1969

https://youtu.be/qSIS0o7vtPE

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:11 AM (xIKXj)

389 SAVE THE CLOCK TOWER!!

Posted by: Back To The Future Walk-On Character # 6 at October 20, 2019 12:11 AM (XVuno)

390 I think a good Operation Chaos would be to support Tulsi Gabbard in states where it doesn't matter how you vote and there are open primaries.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 20, 2019 12:12 AM (438dO)

391 Red wolves are genetically unable to distinguish between traditional prey, wine mom's, and smelly hippie University professors. Unleash the wolves!

Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:12 AM (UFLLM)

392 SAVE THE BEAVER !
Posted by: > alan lana

didn't figure you for an Islamophobe.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:12 AM (R6eDj)

393 Damn Yankees

Posted by: Pete Seria at October 20, 2019 12:13 AM (Y2Gnn)

394


Cloaca job? Do go on old fellow...

Posted by: Surprise Anal Otter at October 20, 2019 12:13 AM (UFLLM)

395 jhawk, I hadn't seen that performance with Beck's intro.

I'll check it out!

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:13 AM (xIKXj)

396 From YouTube videos I learned that golf courses are the natural habitat of American alligators.
Posted by: Cicero
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They routinely go after golfers down along the SE coast.

https://tinyurl.com/y9jk2q9m

Gator got her.

Posted by: Carrie Heffernan at October 20, 2019 12:14 AM (Pu/Kw)

397 Fact that they will run Warren as Hillary 2.0 cracks me up.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2019 12:15 AM (LxTcq)

398 Altuve.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:15 AM (R6eDj)

399 I sacrifice the 2-iron in my bag for an 870 with slugs...

Posted by: Surprise Anal Otter at October 20, 2019 12:15 AM (UFLLM)

400 altuve is a midget but dude can rake.

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:17 AM (B+t5k)

401 Pedo Island is probably available for the G7.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

assuming they all haven't already been there

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:17 AM (R6eDj)

402 391 Red wolves are genetically unable to distinguish between traditional prey, wine mom's, and smelly hippie University professors. Unleash the wolves!
Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:12 AM (UFLLM)

the License plate on me truck?

GR WLF.

Grey Wolf, a nick name given me by some of the best sword fighters in the world.

I will take this under advisement.

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 20, 2019 12:17 AM (NgKpN)

403 Zep

17 March 1969

https://youtu.be/qSIS0o7vtPE
Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:11 AM (xIKXj)
* * * *

Great vid. Hard to believe it's 50 years ago.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 20, 2019 12:17 AM (TY826)

404 ALTUVE!

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:17 AM (R6eDj)

405 Ha! Altuve

Posted by: Pete Seria at October 20, 2019 12:18 AM (Y2Gnn)

406 toldja

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:18 AM (B+t5k)

407 Sooner or later someone's gonna take Jay Ferguson's late 1970s song "Thunder Island" and do a spoof, "Pedo Island."

'Doo doo doo doot, doo doo doot...'

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 20, 2019 12:18 AM (L2ZTs)

408 "Don't throw it again."


That's what I said.

Do. Not. Throw. It. Again.


Fucking Altuve. That little bean can hit.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:18 AM (ypTww)

409 They routinely go after golfers down along the SE coast.

https://tinyurl.com/y9jk2q9m

Gator got her.
Posted by: Carrie Heffernan at October 20, 2019 12:14 AM (Pu/Kw)

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So a 9' gator went for her Sheltie, and she decided to fight the gator, unarmed, for the dog.

And she taught small children.

Top. Women.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:19 AM (5aX2M)

410 409 They routinely go after golfers down along the SE coast.

https://tinyurl.com/y9jk2q9m

Gator got her.
Posted by: Carrie Heffernan at October 20, 2019 12:14 AM (Pu/Kw)

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So a 9' gator went for her Sheltie, and she decided to fight the gator, unarmed, for the dog.

And she taught small children.

Top. Women.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:19 AM (5aX2M)

Darwin is laughing.

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 20, 2019 12:19 AM (NgKpN)

411 Dibs on room 69! IAnd get a better dry cleaner! The last time my 'suits' came back full of bear spray...

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at October 20, 2019 12:19 AM (UFLLM)

412 the left should be sad and made to feel it.

Hillary = Barney Fife. Warren = Warren. They should always realize she is not their real choice, but second best.

Posted by: Quint at October 20, 2019 12:19 AM (n13/j)

413 altuve is so little, the baseball looks bigger to him, so easier to hit .. like a beach ball .. that's all I got.

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 20, 2019 12:20 AM (B+t5k)

414 and he's a little guy!

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 12:20 AM (Pg+x7)

415

Do not take Altuve if you are allergic to Altuve.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 12:21 AM (aKsyK)

416 17 March 1969

https://youtu.be/qSIS0o7vtPE
Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:11 AM (xIKXj)

STB

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:22 AM (rpxSz)

417 Altuve , little or not, is cucking Paolo tonight

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:22 AM (R6eDj)

418 >>Zep

17 March 1969


Jimmy with a Broadcaster/Telecaster in his hands is a beautiful thing.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:23 AM (ypTww)

419 Whats an Altuve? Sounds like an organic homeopathic never tested on animals anal lube and digestive biscuit... Possibly also suitable for use as a floor wax and dessert topping...

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at October 20, 2019 12:24 AM (UFLLM)

420 Yankee Go Home!!!!



Ha!

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 12:24 AM (88cFV)

421 The FL alligators at KSC have developed a taste for the feral pigs that are overrun ing the place.

Posted by: Pualo at October 20, 2019 12:24 AM (B7KlG)

422 Legally sufficient, can you believe the power displayed in that Zep video?

tight, tight band.

i loved the way Jones smiled when Plant sang "Oh Rosey"

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:25 AM (xIKXj)

423 95 After my grandma died, my mom and her sisters inherited Gerber stock that had sat for years growing in value.

I should check and see what their stock's worth these days. Gerber's been sold a number of times since Frank Gerber started it. Nestle, Novartis, etc.

My dad was Gerber's head instrument tech for quite a few years until he retired. Maternal grandfather and his first cousin (both Kingsfords) worked there and the latter is in the photo of the 1930's vintage car Gerber used for their early sales.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy


They were required to sell for the Nestle buyout. It was at something like $24 or $26 per share, and Nestle bought it at over $40. So they did well. There were people in the Fremont area who made a bundle. My younger sister had bought some shares shortly before the buyout, not knowing that it was coming. She almost doubled her money within a couple of months. If she'd bought a lot, it would have looked like insider trading.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 20, 2019 12:25 AM (+lVUW)

424 421... can I watch...

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at October 20, 2019 12:25 AM (UFLLM)

425 >> Legally sufficient, can you believe the power displayed in that Zep video?


JPJ is just fucking thumping on that one.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:26 AM (ypTww)

426 Old sock off

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2019 12:26 AM (B7KlG)

427 I brought back a tape of Turkish music years ago. My kids hated it.

Hilarious!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (axyOa)


I used to play Turkish music in my car stereo, it made me drive aggressively.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:26 AM (xG/b0)

428
Dawn Wells, aka Mary Ann, is playing in tonight's episode of "The Invaders" on MeTV, I just noticed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 20, 2019 12:28 AM (NMAzL)

429 393 Damn Yankees
Posted by: Pete Seria



https://youtu.be/l_uh8XjgLTE

A damn good band.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 20, 2019 12:29 AM (6rRyd)

430

Dawn Wells does not have two cloacas.

What she has, that's just right...

Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:30 AM (UFLLM)

431 Wait... SC alligators have developed a taste for schoolteachers?

*puts on thinking cap*

*prepares draft of letter to Secretary DeVos*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:31 AM (5aX2M)

432 >>A damn good band.


They never really took me high enough.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:32 AM (ypTww)

433 booknlass, I like The Glitch Mob cover, but even better I like this cover of Seven Nation Army:

https://youtu.be/LchNPInfYs4

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:33 AM (xG/b0)

434 garrett,

JPJ is the stealth member of Zep, isn't he

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:33 AM (xIKXj)

435 Wait... SC alligators have developed a taste for schoolteachers?
-------

More specifically, NY teachers. I feel mixed emotions, but not much.

Posted by: Carrie Heffernan at October 20, 2019 12:34 AM (Pu/Kw)

436 Mary Wells > Dawn Wells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuQt3fgNqik

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:34 AM (ypTww)

437 I'm allergic to clinoril

for too much racquetball

about midnight one evening in late 70's

felt like I had poison ivy of the blood

What was cool was the doc told me to pay and get ready to go home, about 1 mile

then he shot me up with huge dose of benadryl

told me I would be out in 10-15 minutes

they would never do that now

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:34 AM (rpxSz)

438 I saw that the Astro's won. Didn't watch the game. Was the TV coverage mournful because the Yankees lost?

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 20, 2019 12:34 AM (6rRyd)

439 Altuve's wrists and forearms are about as thick and strong as a man's legs.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 20, 2019 12:34 AM (Od14x)

440 Oh yeah.













lolgf yankees!

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 20, 2019 12:35 AM (Od14x)

441 >>JPJ is the stealth member of Zep, isn't he


Yep. He's the driver. He keeps everything grounded and fills a ton of space that would normally require another guitarist.

... and probably the best critical voice (production wise) in the band.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:35 AM (ypTww)

442 thanks REDACTED I'll check out STB.

I enjoy those "reaction" videos

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:36 AM (xIKXj)

443 But, man...
Page.

In late 68 to early 69?

With that Tele in his hands.

Damn. That's some incredible stuff. There's a reason he has the reputaion he does. Fuckin' insane attack he had back then.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:38 AM (ypTww)

444 Just turned over to the Boise State game. They're playing BYU, whose QB is...Baylor Romney.
Because of course.

Posted by: Bert G at October 20, 2019 12:38 AM (OMsf+)

445 Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:36 AM (xIKXj)

Anytime you're listening to LZ, you're in STB

simply the best

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:40 AM (rpxSz)

446 Most excellent TXMoMe! Really. Seriously. Stupendously excellent TXMoMe.
Thanks everyone!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 12:40 AM (WoLDS)

447 127 So exactly where those strippers in Columbus carrying their heat?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Uu+Jp)

.22 derringers in their derriere's.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 12:41 AM (MwFQu)

448 Calgary Stampeders defeated Winnipeg Blue Bombers 37-33 in Calgary tonight. Pretty high score for a CFL game.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 12:42 AM (QugKX)

449 Russell Johnson, the actor who played the professor on Gilligan's Island, flew 24 I think missions in the South Pacific on B24 or B25s I forget, as a bombardier. He got shot down over the Philippines breaking both ankles. Hilarity ensued and he eventually was recovered.

just another man who did extraordinary things with his life and then went on to be an actor.

We are not the race of our forefathers.

Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:42 AM (UFLLM)

450 Kindltot, that Peach Stealing Monkeys cover of 7NA was outstanding! thank you

when I see the Koreans marching, though, I'm moved to compassion and sadness, because they seem so thin and exhausted, and they have to step so high

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:43 AM (xIKXj)

451 Porsches have two cloacas?
Posted by: M K Ultra at October 20, 2019 12:06 AM (UFLLM)


Well, In my experience they can fit a couple of pricks sort of comfortably.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:43 AM (xG/b0)

452 The Derrieringer will be marketed to Denver strippers, and patented by YD, Inc., with no attribution for creative rights.

Sorry, not sorry.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:44 AM (5aX2M)

453 I'm think that STB was the first acronym i came across

The English used it alot when describing antiques

like maybe 1969

the English are very fond of saying somethings the "best"

kinda like Americans like to say somethings "perfect", which I hate

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:44 AM (rpxSz)

454 >>> 446 Most excellent TXMoMe! Really. Seriously. Stupendously excellent TXMoMe.
Thanks everyone!
Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 12:40 AM (WoLDS)


We're still here. What are you doing out there???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 20, 2019 12:46 AM (LU7uF)

455 Damn. That's some incredible stuff. There's a reason he has the reputaion he does. Fuckin' insane attack he had back then.
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:38 AM (ypTww)

I've seen him play up close a few times

just rips, my fav

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:47 AM (rpxSz)

456 hi Helena!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:47 AM (ykYG2)

457 I just found out Bhutan worships dongs, thanks to a guy named Drukpa Kunley.

The more you know!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:48 AM (5aX2M)

458
We're still here. What are you doing out there???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 20, 2019 12:46 AM (LU7uF)
------
Early flight. Stop having fun without me!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 12:48 AM (WoLDS)

459 yeah, I agree

Simply the Best

John Henry Bonham mercilessly beating the drums

Robert the rock romantic, innovative to an extreme

Jones, renaissance man, relaxed genius. and Page, to boot!

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:48 AM (xIKXj)

460 BYU, whose QB is...Baylor Romney.

Please let him be a Baptist. Just for the irony.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:49 AM (ykYG2)

461 when I see the Koreans marching, though, I'm moved
to compassion and sadness, because they seem so thin and exhausted, and
they have to step so high
Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:43 AM (xIKXj)


They are, and they are. There is great evil being done there.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:49 AM (xG/b0)

462 428


Dawn Wells, aka Mary Ann, is playing in tonight's episode of "The Invaders" on MeTV, I just noticed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 20, 2019 12:28 AM (NMAzL)

I just noticed too.

Meow.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 20, 2019 12:50 AM (ufFY8)

463 Anytime somebody smaller than I am is not just a professional athlete but an All Star - I am really impressed. Way to go Altuve.

Posted by: An Observation at October 20, 2019 12:50 AM (GNoIH)

464 ha ha, REDACTED I thought you meant

Soul Train Bro reacting videos haha

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:50 AM (xIKXj)

465 "too much garlic"

...sorry, I don't understand these words in that order.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:54 PM (L2ZTs)


Oh, you have no idea.

Decades ago, a recipe correction in the NYSlimes for their garlic chicken: 'The recipe listed 40 knobs of garlic as an ingredient when it should have read 40 cloves. We regret the error.' So did anybody sitting next to anyone who made the uncorrected recipe.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2019 12:54 AM (Y8PSl)

466 From Wikipedia:

"Kunley's penis is referred to as the "Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom" and he himself is known as the "fertility saint". For this reason women from all around the world visited his monastery to seek his blessing."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 12:54 AM (5aX2M)

467 Soul Train Bro reacting videos haha
Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:50 AM (xIKXj)

busted

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:55 AM (rpxSz)

468 Kunley's penis is referred to as the "Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom"

I hope he uses a condom.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:56 AM (ykYG2)

469 That pickup in The Invaders -- it's got a 'crew cab'... I didn't know those existed in that era...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 20, 2019 12:56 AM (7WaWV)

470 >"Kunley's penis is referred to as the "Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom"


AKA: The Heat Seeking Moisture Missile.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 12:57 AM (ypTww)

471
On The Invaders, when the aliens die, they turn red and vaporize. And all their clothes and guns and anything else with them goes poof too.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 20, 2019 12:58 AM (f1Vqw)

472 GN buds and tc

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:59 AM (rpxSz)

473 All of you who do a Mo Meet without Weasel to run the aimin' n' chootin, iz stealing from your attendees.

He's also got excellent tastes in cigars. Gotta give him that.

There was a plethora of excellent chootin, more guns at a Mo Meet that ever before, great chow, wonderful people, and much mirth, laughter, communion and conversation, and I'm vastly underdescribing it all.

To all I got to meet for the first time, WOW!, I'm honored. To those I've met before, but were even then still glad to see me there? WOW!, I'm honored. But I was gladder to see YOU there, first!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 01:00 AM (rQnTU)

474 Very nice to meet you, Jim, and all the rest of the crew I've just meet for the first time. And the familiar faces, too. Heck of a time, that.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 01:04 AM (tH42J)

475 I hope he uses a condom.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 12:56 AM (ykYG2)

-----

No. Only sailors use condoms.

Posted by: Austin Powers at October 20, 2019 01:05 AM (5aX2M)

476 That pickup in The Invaders -- it's got a 'crew cab'... I didn't know those existed in that era...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 20, 2019 12:56 AM (7WaWV)

Yeah, they existed. Dodge made quite a few. Mostly only sold to fleet buyers, back then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 01:07 AM (QugKX)

477 VW made crew cabs from way back as well.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:08 AM (ypTww)

478 just made it back home from the momee myself. wonderful time. Note to Ben Had which I doubt is news to you - 6 miles out from the ranch on 709, came closer to taking out a mule deer than I have in many year. Tired as I was, I was glad I could still do a hard dodge at the last second; I'd say I missed her by 6 inches at 65 mph. Luckily for both of us I was fast and she was slow!

and Now I'm off to bed; wonderful time, and damn am I tired!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 01:09 AM (V2Yro)

479 Trying on my new nic... feels like it fits.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:10 AM (5aX2M)

480 471


On The Invaders, when the aliens die, they turn red and vaporize.
And all their clothes and guns and anything else with them goes poof
too.





Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 20, 2019 12:58 AM (f1Vqw)

Too bad one of them didn't grab hold of Hillary when he croaked.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 20, 2019 01:10 AM (ufFY8)

481 Babe I'm gonna leave you

the same night in '69

https://youtu.be/wO6bRjcyQN8

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 01:13 AM (xIKXj)

482 Chevy had Crew Cabs all the way back to the "Square" body style starting in appx. '76 or so.

But only available in 1 ton, or above.

The first half-ton four door pickemup truck was the Ford F-150 Super Crew, appx, yr. 2000.

Dodge Power Wagon was available as Crew Cab all the way back to the early '60s. But then, EVERY Power Wagon was a 3/4 ton or 1 ton or greater.

Ford offered the Super Crew in the F-150, starting 'round 82 or so.

But no four-door "non commercial" cabs till 2000 or so, unless you count the heavy duty F-650 2-1/2 ton trucks, most often sold to Utility Companies.

International Harvester has had 4 door trucks in the 2 ton range and above, since forever. But IH dropped out of the private pickemup truck market 'round 71 or so.

Such is a pity.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 01:15 AM (rQnTU)

483 Interesting thing an F book.

Friend of mine just posted an anti Global warming article, and FB posted TWO unsolicited 'responses' under his article, dismissing it because it was not 'peer reviewed', but marking those responses as 'FACT CHECKS'.

Neither disputed the facts.

Pure and simple propaganda.

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 20, 2019 01:16 AM (NgKpN)

484 Correction to above.

Ford offered the SUPER-CAB (not Super Crew) in the F-150, starting around '82 or so.

*** edit ***

Wasn't my fault. Blame the bourbon.

As always.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 01:17 AM (rQnTU)

485 Lol, RickZ.

40 cloves of garlic would also be a bit much, right? Unless, you're talking *several* chickens-- admittedly, I've not seen that actual recipe.

I think I put maybe 10 cloves in our 2-lb roast tonight. Whew, potent, but we do love garlic!

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 01:19 AM (gP/Z3)

486 Wasn't my fault. Blame the bourbon.

As always.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 01:17 AM (rQnTU)

Good Sir! It is NEVER bourbon's Fault!

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 20, 2019 01:19 AM (NgKpN)

487 Acronym For The Day:

ENIGMA

Every Night It Gets More Amusing

;-)

Posted by: The Last To Post at October 20, 2019 01:19 AM (BPmuO)

488 Well, getting sleepy here. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 01:20 AM (QugKX)

489
Finally.

I'm freed of the ancient curse of my old nic, to pursue my new destiny - healing the lonely nuns of South Asia with my Sword of Enlightenment.

What a relief.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:20 AM (5aX2M)

490 150 Is there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today?"

Late 60's Stones does not sound dated to me. Oh, their attempt at psychedelia, "Their Satanic Majesties Request" does. But not Jumping Jack Flash or Sympathy for the Devil.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 01:21 AM (d6Ksn)

491 Oh and congrats, Astros fans.

Gotta love Altuve.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 01:22 AM (d6Ksn)

492 Friend of mine just posted an anti Global warming article, and FB posted TWO unsolicited 'responses' under his article, dismissing it because it was not 'peer reviewed', but marking those responses as 'FACT CHECKS'.


I don't 'do' fakebook, but if this happened to me I'd delete their phony fact-checks from my page, saying that 97% of my peers rejected them as False.

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 01:23 AM (gP/Z3)

493 Lol, RickZ.



40 cloves of garlic would also be a bit much, right? Unless,
you're talking *several* chickens-- admittedly, I've not seen that
actual recipe.



I think I put maybe 10 cloves in our 2-lb roast tonight. Whew, potent, but we do love garlic!

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 01:19 AM (gP/Z3)

I have heard of recipes that use really high garlic clove counts. If you roast them they are much less pungent and nuanced. They get almost sweet and carmelized if roasted properly.

Posted by: Quint at October 20, 2019 01:23 AM (n13/j)

494 Robert Plant at 20.

sigh

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 01:24 AM (xIKXj)

495 Curtis Mayfield.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:24 AM (5aX2M)

496 I saw Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom open for Sword of Enlightenment at Uxfest in '87...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 20, 2019 01:24 AM (7WaWV)

497
I can remember crew-cabs back in the 70s in my childhood. They were indeed more "fleet" vehicles used by construction crews and such.

Looking it up, the first crew cab Ford offered was in '65, for the F-250 ("3/4 ton"). It was special order.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 20, 2019 01:24 AM (f1Vqw)

498 goodnight Alberta Oil man

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 01:25 AM (xIKXj)

499 40 cloves of garlic would also be a bit much, right?

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 01:19 AM (gP/Z3)


I like garlic but, . . . . 40 cloves may work in garlic bread if you're making it for 400 people. But a dinner for two or four? Shots of Scope should be served with dessert.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2019 01:25 AM (Y8PSl)

500 I think it is a dating tip that if the chick orders a meal with garlic, the date is not going well. But if you guys are into each other, you can both order the shrimp scampi.

Posted by: Quint at October 20, 2019 01:28 AM (n13/j)

501 >>Looking it up, the first crew cab Ford offered was in '65, for the F-250 ("3/4 ton"). It was special order.


VW predates those a few years. Granted. You could only tow a Big Wheel.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:30 AM (ypTww)

502 >> I think it is a dating tip that if the chick orders a meal with garlic, the date is not going well. But if you guys are into each other, you can both order the shrimp scampi.


I asked the Ex once, early on in our dating relationship, if she was planning on spending the night...

because I really wanted Thai Food that night.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:31 AM (ypTww)

503
Looking at F-series history. The line before the f-xxx line was the F-1, F-2, F-3 and F-4. The F-1 became the F-100, the F-2 and -3 became the F-250, and the F-4 became the F-350.

The F-150 came along in the '70s, and for several years, you had both the F-100 and F-150. The F-100 was dropped somewhere around '80 or so.

We had a '72 F-100. 302.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 20, 2019 01:31 AM (f1Vqw)

504 As a Mets fan, I'm drinking the tears of Yankee fans

Posted by: kbdabear at October 20, 2019 01:32 AM (qAR6u)

505 I invited a vampire over to dinner.

I served 40 knobs of roasted garlic.

The side dish was hardened Hickory Stakes.

On mirror polished silver plates.

Engraved with a Crucifix.

Paired with a glass of '82 Holy Water.

I named the dish Vampire Flambe.

It will be in the next Horde Cookbook.

It will be Number One, with a Silver Bullet.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 01:32 AM (rQnTU)

506 I like garlic but, . . . . 40 cloves may work in
garlic bread if you're making it for 400 people. But a dinner for two
or four? Shots of Scope should be served with dessert.
Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2019 01:25 AM (Y8PSl)


My GF is Korean. I have watched her dip a fresh, peeled garlic clove in gochujang (chili paste), munch down on it and then say, "whoo, that was hot" and then do another one.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 01:32 AM (xG/b0)

507 >>Is there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today


Hits are generally less prone to being timeless. Mostly because hits were chasing the formula of something that was previously successful.

If not, they were copied and became dated through the same process.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:33 AM (ypTww)

508
think it is a dating tip that if the chick orders a meal with garlic, the date is not going well. But if you guys are into each other, you can both order the shrimp scampi.

------

Use my revered and hallowed line:

"It would seem from your legs and muscular thighs that your pelvic thrust is particularly efficient, let's see how you perform."

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:33 AM (5aX2M)

509 >>As a Mets fan, I'm drinking the tears of Yankee fans



You are a Mets fan, too?


My sincerest condolences.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:33 AM (ypTww)

510 499 40 cloves of garlic would also be a bit much, right?

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 01:19 AM (gP/Z3)

I like garlic but, . . . . 40 cloves may work in garlic bread if you're making it for 400 people. But a dinner for two or four? Shots of Scope should be served with dessert.
Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2019 01:25 AM (Y8PSl)

I made chicken with 40 cloves of garlic once. The writer of the cookbook assured me that the long cooking time would make the garlic very mild. It was quite good. The garlic was soft and I spread it on French bread and ate it with the chicken.

The next afternoon, a coworker at the cubicle next to me said "I must be going nuts. I've been smelling garlic all day."

Apparently it was coming out though my pores.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 01:35 AM (d6Ksn)

511 COSMIC SLOP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vBDET3kbI

Posted by: FUNKADELIC at October 20, 2019 01:36 AM (ypTww)

512 Been a minute since I watched Cosmic Slop. Is that the one where aliens come to harvest blacks for melanin to fuel their ships in exchange for technology? I I think that's the one.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:39 AM (5aX2M)

513 The show, not the song I mean.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:42 AM (5aX2M)

514 With a name like Baylor Romney... A guy would have to dress every day like he just came from a Scotch ad.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 01:44 AM (RuIsu)

515 I have heard of recipes that use really high garlic clove counts. If you roast them they are much less pungent and nuanced. They get almost sweet and carmelized if roasted properly.

Posted by: Quint at October 20, 2019 01:23 AM (n13/j)


I agree about roasting garlic to take away some of its, uh, pungency. I use roasted garlic as a sandwich spread (warm roasted cloves fork mashed into a paste using parmigiano reggiano as the 'abrasive' in lieu of salt) and for garlic bread (mixing softened butter into the garlic/cheese mash before spreading on bread and baking). But even the corrected Slimes recipe did not call for roasted garlic cloves.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2019 01:45 AM (Y8PSl)

516 This is what I'm talking about:

https://tinyurl.com/yycozffg

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 01:45 AM (5aX2M)

517 Goodnight Horde, I'm glad so many of you had fun at the MoMe, one of these years I'm going to get there.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 20, 2019 01:47 AM (a4EWo)

518 Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 01:49 AM (rQnTU)

519 goodnight Jim!

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 01:56 AM (xIKXj)

520 Many use garlic simply as a flavour for other foods, but it's actually a vegetable just like its cousin, the humble onion, and should be used as such...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 20, 2019 02:02 AM (7WaWV)

521 Cream Farewell concert on the BBC

quite humorous in places, ala monty python or spinal tap

https://youtu.be/7FZ0pv9R1uY

Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 02:13 AM (xIKXj)

522 Tryin' on a new nic... Zettai, Russian Asset!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Aseto at October 20, 2019 02:13 AM (7WaWV)

523
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 20, 2019 02:14 AM (M9XOx)

524 Hey, AltonJackson

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 02:16 AM (M9XOx)

525 I dunno... Teh Go Ogle Translate informs me that "Roshia-no Shigan" might be more proper Nipponese...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Aseto at October 20, 2019 02:23 AM (7WaWV)

526 Errr, Roshia-no Shisan...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Aseto at October 20, 2019 02:24 AM (7WaWV)

527 The Tx MoMe is officially over and WOW doesn't even begin to cover it

To hogmartin and AltonJackson- Thank You can't even begin to cover everything you both did.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 02:32 AM (W4ER+)

528 What a fantastic MoMe weekend! Thank you, Ben Had, for organizing and everyone else for so incredibly much fun!!!

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 20, 2019 02:41 AM (MYse9)

529 SnailRacer, you are a treasure, darling.

my unending gratitude.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 02:46 AM (W4ER+)

530 Reading about the Nine-0-Nine crash... The flaps were retracted on approach... (Our own Anna Puma posted the preliminary report some days ago, and that detail caught my attention...)

I'm no pilot but I believe the flaps should have been extended on approach... So the aircraft stalled whilst trying to land!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Aseto at October 20, 2019 02:47 AM (7WaWV)

531 'Scuse me while I whip this out

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at October 20, 2019 02:51 AM (rt0xh)

532 Ben Had, good to see you made it home safe and did not have a run in with Tom Servos mule deer.

Tom, so glad you and the mule deer did not make contact!

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 20, 2019 02:52 AM (MYse9)

533 when I see the Koreans marching, though, I'm moved
to compassion and sadness, because they seem so thin and exhausted, and
they have to step so high
Posted by: booknlass at October 20, 2019 12:43 AM (xIKXj)

Remember that under Juche, the Army eats first. Well, after the nomklatura.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 02:57 AM (MwFQu)

534 The press originally asked for the G7 conf not to be held at Camp David because of the limited facilities and the need for a bumpy 1 hour press bus ride in and out each day.

But the MSM (including Fox) kept yammering on Doral so now the conf will now be held at..

... Camp David.

The conf will be at the least attractive venue choice and the one with the biggest logistical hassle for the MSM.

So Trump now has received tons of free publicity for Doral, which doesn't cost him a penny now, and the press gets to be miserable schlepping themselves and their gear an hour in and out of the woods for several days.

Posted by: HuskerDu at October 20, 2019 03:45 AM (d3MA1)

535 PARTICIPATION!!!

That counts.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 09:58 PM (x8Wzq)


Here, have a raspberry.

cfomom, that's just mean. I was born in the in-between times -- My parents told me "Turn that shit down" and my kids begged me to. wtf.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 03:49 AM (Z4rgH)

536 So Trump now has received tons of free publicity for Doral, which doesn't cost him a penny now, and the press gets to be miserable schlepping themselves and their gear an hour in and out of the woods for several days.
Posted by: HuskerDu at October 20, 2019 03:45

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 03:49 AM (m+0jM)

537 GnuBreed, thought I was the only one.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 03:55 AM (m+0jM)

538 *Hilarious* tweet: somebody I've never heard of responding to Hillary! expounding on the history of women working with NASA:

https://tinyurl.com/y48n9nw2

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 04:02 AM (I9xeT)

539 Clocking in
At work I use wtf are we listening to? very often

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:08 AM (ZCEU2)

540 I think I get more sleep during the week than weekends.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:13 AM (ZCEU2)

541 14 At this very moment, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton are having a "conversation" in a hall in Portland!

It's very strange - the event allegedly sold out, but Andy Ngo (who is attending) tweeted a picture fifteen minutes before the event was supposed to start showing that about two-thirds of the seats in the front section were empty.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (I2/tG)

He's got some excerpts on his twitter feed; it sounds more dreadful than I could even have imagined, and Chelsea is looking like she's getting tired of it:

@MrAndyNgo

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 04:19 AM (I9xeT)

542 I think I do too. Can't sleep, but made homemade waffles and bacon. Windows and screens are clean, and this 29 yo body is sore. Oh, gutters clean too.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 04:19 AM (m+0jM)

543 I am not climbing upon my roof at 4:22 am to clean gutters

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:22 AM (ZCEU2)

544 Yesterday laid here almost two hours before getting up to make coffee. Might as well just get up right away today.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:31 AM (ZCEU2)

545 Skip, lol, I hired that out. I figured it was cheaper than a hospital visit. I used to be a roofer, back in the old days. Now, not so much. I just started really looking and cleaning around here. I'm realizing Dad was faking it for a long time before I noticed it. I thought it was just forgetful old age.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 04:32 AM (m+0jM)

546 Not seeing anything new out there yet this morning

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:48 AM (ZCEU2)

547 The cleaning. Heh. We lovingly used to call mom Mrs. Clean. Now she doesn't notice, and when I do the cleaning, she wonders why I'm doing it.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 04:49 AM (Z/jzm)

548 I'ts dark. That is why you can't see.

time stamp: 2:50 a.m.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 04:50 AM (m+0jM)

549 Dark here at 3:50

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 04:50 AM (Z/jzm)

550 Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 04:49 AM (Z/jzm)

lol. Same here.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 04:51 AM (m+0jM)

551 My friends thought it was weird when I automatically took my shoes off when I came to their house, or told them to take theirs off when they came to mine. Yeah. Better to do that than endure mom's wrath.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 04:54 AM (Z/jzm)

552 97 Nice Twatter takedown of the 'moderate' Tulsi Gabbard. Her going after Kameltoe and Skankles is great but lest anyone forget, she comes from the toxic socialist stew that is Hawaii. (Mazie Hirono, anyone? Or Hawaiian judge blocks Trump [again], anyone?) As the Twat thread shows, she's batshit crazy, but she isn't as batshit crazy insane as the rest of the Democrat Klown Kar Kandidates. I call that damning with faint praise. Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp. No wonder the soyboys on the right are in love with her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2z8ob24
Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (Y8PSl)

Here's the unrolled thread of that:

https://tinyurl.com/y3kmdn2z

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 04:57 AM (I9xeT)

553 My life, I get it. Same here. One of Dad's friend's passed suddenly from a heart attack shortly after Dad. Has a beautiful home. No shoes allowed in the house, but you could smoke. Has a wonderful bar with a beautiful view in his home. M, W and F was happy hour. Come one come all.

I was so disgusted at his wake. His niece thought it was so cool she was wearing shoes in his home, yet no smoking allowed. She bragged about wearing shoes in the house.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 05:02 AM (m+0jM)

554 >>At work I use wtf are we listening to? very often
Posted by: Skip

We have sirius xm at work. But the adjoining fast food place has control of the choice of station. For a long time it was set to the Garth Brooks station. Now it's 60s on 6. I don't mind it, and most of the customers think it's fun, even the younger ones comment on it being music their parents played when they were kids.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:03 AM (Z/jzm)

555 >> His niece thought it was so cool she was wearing shoes in his home, yet no smoking allowed. She bragged about wearing shoes in the house.
Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 05:02 AM (m+0jM)

Obnoxious!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:04 AM (Z/jzm)

556 If it hadn't been his wake, I would have smacked the bitch. Although, thinking back, he may have enjoyed that looking down at us. lol. He was that kinda guy.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 05:07 AM (m+0jM)

557 Yesterday i thought about making waffles, but didn't. Maybe today. Out of bacon tho.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:10 AM (Z/jzm)

558 Infidel, that or a comment to put here in her place!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:12 AM (Z/jzm)

559 I hate oldies (60,70,80s), heard them all 10,000 times already.
And those kind of stations play the same songs every day, for awhile someonewasplaying Sirius oldies whichplayedthe same songs thed commercial station plays.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:13 AM (ZCEU2)

560 It was good. Got to feed the freezer too. Now I think it's time for bed. Laundry is going and the 'ol bod is sore.

Oh, was going thru some drawers in a hutch that was grandma's.
today, found a packet of 2 Bayer aspirin that expired in 7/85.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 05:15 AM (m+0jM)

561 The same songs played over and over. Yeah, you can almost set your clock by it! I can easily tune it out, and customers are in and out fairly quick so they don't notice that. I agree about tho about rather having a better mix of music.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:16 AM (Z/jzm)

562 From '85! My brother and I started going through the basement here. No meds, but lots and lots! of really old stuff. Amazing how much stuff is down there.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:20 AM (Z/jzm)

563 Sleep well, Infidel.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:20 AM (Z/jzm)

564 Found a small box with military pins/medals(?) that were my maternal grandfathers. Must be WW1 era. In the box was also a small rock that was sort of heart shaped. Crudely engraved on it were my grandfather + grandmother's initials. So sweet!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:24 AM (Z/jzm)

565 MLii - have you identified any of the medals?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:26 AM (ZCEU2)

566 No, not yet.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:26 AM (Z/jzm)

567 Grandpa died when I was 5. I never really knew him, and the only personal stories I ever heard were how he and grandma met, how his early childhood was really rough, hunting stories that my dad experienced with him as his son in law, and that at one point when my mom was younger, he had tuberculosis. (That's not what killed him tho). After he died, grandma never talked about him.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:33 AM (Z/jzm)

568 If your interested it it it should be easy to find on the internet.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:34 AM (ZCEU2)

569 Porn lovers are defenders of Freedom and Capitalism: BULLSHIT. Grow up idiot.

Posted by: Chouinard at October 20, 2019 05:34 AM (90dpd)

570 Yeah, i am. I was thinking i should be able to find out his service dates somewhere, too.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:37 AM (Z/jzm)

571 Many medals awarded haved stayed the same for last 100 years, also could be theater or command, as well as ceremonial.
I think we have my Father-in-law's from WWII.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:47 AM (ZCEU2)

572 Yeah, i am. I was thinking i should be able to find out his service dates somewhere, too.
Posted by: My life is insanity

It's amazing what you can, and can't find.
If he was a WW2 vet, a lot of the service records were destroyed in a fire in 1973

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 05:48 AM (vd8XM)

573 Mornin' all

Just started on first cup-o-joe.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 05:51 AM (hFbrr)

574 Mornin', Bruce. This would've been WW1 era.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 05:55 AM (Z/jzm)

575 First?

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 05:55 AM (NH9pa)

576 > And Gary Numan's Cars, as well as a lot of Blondie's early stuff, actually came out in the late 1970s.

Devo was formed in 1973, so not even late 70s for them. First album and national TV appearance in '78.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 20, 2019 05:57 AM (Do2h6)

577 On last 1/2 of a cup, feel like could go back to bed

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:57 AM (ZCEU2)

578 On last 1/2 of a cup, feel like could go back to bed
Posted by: Skip

C'mon Skip!

Almost there!

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:00 AM (vd8XM)

579 NOOD

Krak's alarm went off

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (vd8XM)

580 > Is there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today?

Jimi Hendrix sounds dated, it's just that the date is somewhere around 4,000 AD.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (Do2h6)

581 EMT is up.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (NH9pa)

582 I sure hope those strippers were packing heat...............

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 06:22 AM (5IHGB)

583 Mexico will pay for the G7 meeting st the Doral

Posted by: Kurt at October 20, 2019 08:41 AM (0g0ya)

584 The Singer 1911 is the Holy Grail of 1911's. A few years ago a pristine one auctioned for $414,000.

Posted by: ERF at October 20, 2019 12:02 PM (NxG7K)

Satuday Evening Movie Thread 10-19-2019 [Hosted by: TheJamesMadison]

Hello all, TJM, here. So, Mary Poppin's Practically Perfect Piercing (MP4) reached out to me with an idea for a post. It was about one of his favorite silent films, Haxan, a movie I hadn't yet seen. So, I encouraged him to write it himself, which he has done! I really liked what he wrote, so I'm giving him the floor tonight.

MP4 knows more about the silent era than I do. I know much of the highlights of the era, but MP4 has spent time digging into the nooks and crannies of the time and place and has accumulated such a wonderful compendium of knowledge on the time and place. He's even gone so far as to write some fiction set in the era, mostly around the silent vamp Theda Bara, star of the lost silent epic Cleopatra and her makeup man Toby.

Also, you should buy his books.


Häxan (Witchcraft Through the Ages)

98. Haxan 01.jpg

Good evening, 'rons and 'ronettes. Thanks to TheJamesMadison, Moviegique, OregonMuse and Ace for letting me pester you all with some words about silent movies; or, rather, one in particular: Häxan, called by writer Jack Stevenson "the world's strangest film" (though that, like Plan 9 from Outer Space being the "worst movie ever made" is debatable; I think Tales from the Quadead Zone is a hell of a lot stranger).

Horror has been a movie staple almost from the beginning; the Edison studio put out a truncated Frankenstein in 1910, whose biggest special effect consisted of the monster rising out of a bubbling cauldron. And, depending on how you want to define "documentary," you could make the argument that Fred Ott's Sneeze – Edison's 1894 short of a studio employee doing just that – constitutes a documentary, since it's showing the viewer a real event. But the combination of the two, though now common in "found footage" crap-fests such as The Blair Witch Project and the Paranormal Activity franchise, had been for many years a rarity, and in fact, I can only think of
Häxan prior to the 1970's.

Häxan (in English, The Witch) was the brainchild of Danish director Benjamin Christensen. His two earlier films, Blind Justice and The Mysterious X, had attracted American notice and the Vitagraph studio in New York offered to make him a supervising producer, but by that time Christensen had the notion to make a trilogy about the history of superstition. Häxan was part one of this never-completed project.
Christensen's viewpoint was that there was no such thing as "real" witchcraft, but only an hysteria such as that affecting modern-day psychiatric patients. Not a particularly objectionable statement in itself, but he went further than that – just as the witches of the Middle Ages were tortured and forced to confess their worship of Satan, he argued, "compassionate" treatment of the mentally ill, with its cold showers, electroshock treatments and confinement to "cure" patients were no better than the thumbscrew and rack of the Inquisition.

Häxan begins with a present-day lecture. Christensen takes us through ancient views of the universe, making the point that witchcraft, sorcery and belief in demons has been with mankind from the beginning. But, he asks, who and what are witches? What do they do?

98. Haxan 02.jpg

The movie then travels back in time to the year 1488. An ominous title card reads "I will now illustrate a trial for witchcraft from beginning to end taking place at the time when the Pope sent traveling Inquisition priests out to Germany." We are introduced to the family of a scribe who is dying from some unknown disease. Frantic for a scapegoat, the sick man's sister-in-law (Karen Winther) runs to the Inquisition to accuse a poor elderly weaver, Maria (Maren Pedersen) of being a witch. Maria is kidnapped and tortured by the holy judges, though Christensen never shows her actually on the rack or in the thumbscrew. He does, however, show the instruments of torture to us and, in an effort to help us understand how an innocent person could admit to congress with the Evil One, notes "One of my actresses insisted on trying out the thumbscrew. . .I will not reveal the terrible confessions I forced from the young lady in less than a minute."

Maria the weaver is doomed. We know that. But in her agony, she has confessed to the judges (in a scene that intercuts with views of witches gathering for the Sabbat and engaging in child sacrifice and demonic sex) that the scribe's wife and sister, too, are witches, and an eager Inquisition snatches them up for torture and burning.


But Christensen isn't done yet. The vindictive sister-in-law is herself swept up as a sorceress and jailed. Häxan is not a horror film as such; no deaths are shown and there is only a brief shot of a child being thrown into a boiling pot, but the scene where the sister-in-law is promised freedom if she will only confess her witchery still packs a gut punch 97 years later.


"1488" is really the centerpiece of Häxan. Christensen then moves on briefly to the story of Sister Cecilia (a spooky Clara Pontoppidan), brooding on the persistent presence of the Devil (a role taken by the beefy director himself), who "forces" her to impale the sacred Host on a knife, to spit on a picture of the Christ Child and whose hysteria eventually overcomes the entire convent, throwing them into fits of shrieking and dancing. Watching these scenes, it's almost inevitable that we would consider the nuns sexually frustrated, but I don't believe that was Christensen's view; I think (and repeat viewings convince me) that he attributed their "hysteria" to a morbid preoccupation with sin. Not sex, but religion is responsible for suffering.

98. Haxan 03.jpg


Finally, Häxan moves to the present day, in a sequence that in both 1922 and today is considered the weakest part of the movie. We see a woman (Tora Teje) who portrays, in various scenes, a sleepwalker, an arsonist and a kleptomaniac. All three of the women are said to suffer from "nervous exhaustion" and because of that, see things in their sleep or are forced "against their will" to perform acts that they would never do when they were awake. This, says Christensen, is the true source of the witch craze: a combination of shattered nerves, suspicion, morbid obsession and an instinctive dislike of the crippled, the aged or the just plain different. In the Middle Ages, the Church persecuted the witch; in our time, the "witch" is persecuted by the law.

Häxan was, on the whole, poorly received by the critics, who damned it for its portrayal of nudity and "perverted cruelty." Christensen himself admitted that "after The Witch, I was out in the cold for two years." He did eventually find a position at Germany's UFA, but left for America when MGM offered him a director's chair. His tenure there was difficult, and after four films with Warner Brothers, he soured on Hollywood and moved back to Denmark. His last film, 1942's The Lady with Light Gloves, was "an unmitigated disaster" and he never made another movie. The remainder of his life was spent in seclusion, owning and running a small cinema house until his death in 1959.

Häxan, though, lived on. It was revived in 1941, but then dropped out of sight until 1967, when the Danish Film Museum screened it during a retrospective of Christensen's work. The next year, English filmmaker Antony Balch cut its 104 minute running time to 76 minutes, re-titling it Witchcraft Through the Ages, adding not only a grating "jazz" score but enlisting counterculture icon William S. Burroughs to provide what has been described as an "arch" and "dully spoken" narration, though Burroughs does little more than read Christensen's original title cards. This is the version most familiar to the modern age, and I recall seeing it myself as a young child on some strange public access channel.

In 2001, Criterion released Häxan on DVD as a double bill with Witchcraft. It's now also available in a remastered 2K Blu-ray restoration, with Witchcraft, outtakes, commentary and Christiansen's own introduction to the 1941 re-release.

If you've never seen a silent, Häxan is probably not the place to start (that's a topic for another day). But if you're looking for something a little different for your Hallowe'en viewing, it's a good choice.


A Thank You

TJM here again. I just want to thank MP4 for doing this. His insight into the history and meaning of a silent classic like this is wonderful to read. Also, the rest of you should really buy his books.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Maleficient: Mistress of Evil
Zombieland: Double Tap

Next in my Netflix Queue:
The Walk

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:
Joker (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "I wanted to like this film more, but it's first half is just too messy with too much obfuscating the actual story at hand. The second half goes a good way making up for it, but not quite enough." [Theater]
El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Full Review "Watched as the final three episodes of Breaking Bad probably makes it flow a bit better, viewing it as the last three episodes of a television series, rather than as a stand alone movie." [Netflix Instant]
Exorcist II: The Heretic (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) Full Review "Everyone else has known that this movie was insane nonsense for more than 40 years, and you just found out. Time to tell the world!" ["Library"]
Crisis (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1/4) Full Review "Ingmar Bergman's first movie has a handful of charms, but it's ultimately an unfocused bit of over-assured storytelling that never comes together." [Personal Collection]
Fear and Desire (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1/4) Full Review "This is the work of an immature, unfocused, and pretentious bore. This Stan Kubrick guy has no future in the movies. He should just go back to New York and become a dentist or something." [Amazon Prime]
Paths of Glory (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "It's a temporary reprieve for them before they are sent back to the meat grinder where they will once again become subject to the whims of the French military command. It's perhaps their final moment of humanity." [Personal Collection]
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "This movie is a classic for good reason." [Personal Collection]
Eyes Wide Shut (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "It's a descent into dream logic and another world while also touching on themes that are extraordinarily grounded. I think it's an underrated work from one of the greatest of filmmakers." [Personal Collection]


Contact

Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.

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I've also archived all the old posts here, by request.

I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.

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Posted by: DR.WTF at October 19, 2019 08:12 PM (aS1PU)

2

Svengoolie is on. The movie is The Mummy's Handjob.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 08:13 PM (EdeJT)

3 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:14 PM (arJlL)

4 I avoid all movies with umlauts in the title.

I hate umlauts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:14 PM (XVuno)

5 4 I avoid all movies with umlauts in the title.

I hate umlauts.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:14 PM (XVuno)

=====

Be careful of your insurance choices, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:15 PM (zZbCU)

6 Anyone looking forward to the release of Star Wars IX? I'm not.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:15 PM (XVuno)

7 I see The Bad Seed ( 1959) is on Movies staring Greta Thunberg at1015pm

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 08:16 PM (ZCEU2)

8 When do we get to the part where a moose bites someone's sister?

Posted by: pep at October 19, 2019 08:16 PM (T6t7i)

9 I first heard of Haxan when Ace linked to a YouTube video of Season of the Witch featuring scenes from the movie.

I found a torrent and downloaded the film with anticipation.

There was a lot less nudity than I expected.

Posted by: damn Danes at October 19, 2019 08:17 PM (860sb)

10 A film with sexually frustrated nuns? It has possibilities...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:18 PM (XVuno)

11


Plan 9 from Outer Space being the "worst movie ever made" is debatable




On Rifftrax I saw a steaming turd called Birdemic. It's The Birds Meets
Greta Thunberg. The birds are attacking people because of global
warming. It's Manos: The Hands of Fate level of film making with a lefty
preachy message.



Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 08:18 PM (Um89f)

12 When do we get to the part where a moose bites someone's sister?

Starring Insomniac's sister !

Who went on to play the woman in the opening of JAWS!

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:19 PM (arJlL)

13 4 I avoid all movies with umlauts in the title.



I hate umlauts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:14 PM (XVuno)


An umlaut once bit my sister.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 08:19 PM (jYnPD)

14 I avoid all movies with umlauts in the title.



I hate umlauts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:14 PM (XVuno)


You didn't like Spinal Tap?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 08:19 PM (Um89f)

15 I watched Haxan for the first time earlier today.

I loved it. It was fascinating and cruel and really unsettling.

The trial is as terrifying as Joan of Arc's trial in The Passion of Joan of Arc.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:19 PM (zZbCU)

16 Wasn't Haxan a video game?

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 08:20 PM (6rRyd)

17 Plan 9 from Outer Space being the "worst movie ever made" is debatable

It really is. Ed Wood actually knew what he was doing; he simply didn't have the resources to put his vision on the screen.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:21 PM (Ki5SV)

18 The trial is as terrifying as Joan of Arc's trial in The Passion of Joan of Arc.

"You can't handle the truth !"

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:21 PM (arJlL)

19

Tickets please and keep your feet off the seats and dicks in the popcorn container...........enjoy the show.

Posted by: saf at October 19, 2019 08:21 PM (5IHGB)

20 13 lol

Posted by: mjc at October 19, 2019 08:22 PM (Pg+x7)

21

J.B. Witchdance (1993) featuring Ginger Baker

https://youtu.be/mKhGSCDR-F0

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2019 08:23 PM (aKsyK)

22 You didn't like Spinal Tap?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 08:19 PM (Um89f)

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Technically speaking, two dots above a consonant doesn't really qualify as an umlaut.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:23 PM (XVuno)

23 I thought the post would be about Nosferatu, which has become a Halloween classic. My high school used to show Freaks. I'll probably watch my copy this year.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (Lqy/e)

24 Thanks for the kind words, TJM. I don't deserve them, but I appreciate them.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (Ki5SV)

25 Haxan is a Satan movie. If you watch it, Satan will eat your soul.

In other words, it's no "Bone Tomahawk."

Or maybe it is.

Anyway, ZOD. Souls. Eating.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:25 PM (XzT/D)

26 24 Thanks for the kind words, TJM. I don't deserve them, but I appreciate them.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (Ki5SV)

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Seriously, though, your knowledge of the silent era is fantastic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:25 PM (zZbCU)

27 Spinal Tap should have used a tilde above the "n". Less Teutonic, more Hispanic.


Ay, yay yay yay yay!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:25 PM (XVuno)

28 Thanks for the kind words, TJM. I don't deserve them, but I appreciate them.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (Ki5SV)


Nice post MP4. You've made me want to see Haxan.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 19, 2019 08:26 PM (aS1PU)

29 I thought the post would be about Nosferatu, which has become a Halloween classic. My high school used to show Freaks. I'll probably watch my copy this year.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (Lqy/e)


There's a lot I could say about Nosferatu, but I thought Haxan would be a choice that might encourage people to watch it.

If you like Nosferatu, I'd recommend the Willem Dafoe movie Shadow of the Vampire, whose plot is that Dafoe - as Max Schreck - is a real vampire who agrees to be in the movie if director F.W. Murnau will give him the leading lady to drain dry at the end of the shoot. It's very well done, IMO.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:27 PM (Ki5SV)

30 Watched the Resident Evil films this week. Alice doesn't tell the audience enough that her name is Alice.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 19, 2019 08:27 PM (Od14x)

31 Started watching it

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 08:28 PM (ZCEU2)

32 A relentlessly (not silent) creepy movie that haunts me is the 2008 version of Martyrs, directed by Pascal Laugier.

Very mysterious ending as well as just evil and creepy. Very well made, I have to admit.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 08:29 PM (88cFV)

33 Also, Fuck The Yankees.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 08:30 PM (88cFV)

34 Also, Fuck The Yankees.

That's pretty spooky

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:32 PM (arJlL)

35 I've watched bits of Haxan (As a matter of fact, it showed up on some broadcast channel a few weeks ago in the evening!), but I've never got that drawn into it. A lot of imagery, but the quality of the prints you usually see are pretty poor and it's a jumpy narrative to deal with.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 08:33 PM (oVJmc)

36 35 I've watched bits of Haxan (As a matter of fact, it showed up on some broadcast channel a few weeks ago in the evening!), but I've never got that drawn into it. A lot of imagery, but the quality of the prints you usually see are pretty poor and it's a jumpy narrative to deal with.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 08:33 PM (oVJmc)

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The embed Mp4 used up above is from a very fine print that the Swedish film Institute put together.

It's a great option, especially considering the price.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:34 PM (zZbCU)

37 and it's a jumpy narrative to deal with.

Like The Ghost and Mr. Chicken ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:35 PM (arJlL)

38 The embed Mp4 used up above is from a very fine print that the Swedish film Institute put together.

Isn't that where Greta Sourpuss is from ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:37 PM (arJlL)

39 Found out in the last month there are lots of places on the web you can see old movies besides those on YouTube

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 08:37 PM (ZCEU2)

40 Like The Ghost and Mr. Chicken ?
Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:35 PM (arJlL)


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Nothing is like The Ghost and Mr. Chicken. That there is a cinematic masterpiece.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:37 PM (XVuno)

41 Dude you have got to lay off the Kubrick. It will warp your mind.

Thanks for the excellent exposition MP3. It makes me want to go to the Witches Confluence tomorrow at the County Fair building!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 19, 2019 08:38 PM (EZebt)

42 Found out in the last month there are lots of places on the web you can see old movies besides those on YouTube
Posted by: Skip

Do we hafta buy your book to find out where ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:38 PM (arJlL)

43
Nothing is like The Ghost and Mr. Chicken. That there is a cinematic masterpiece.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:37 PM (XVuno)



Atta boy, Luther!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 08:38 PM (Um89f)

44 41 Dude you have got to lay off the Kubrick. It will warp your mind.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 19, 2019 08:38 PM (EZebt)

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Oh, it's done. Now I'm watching Billy Wilder's movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:39 PM (zZbCU)

45 I loved Shadow of the Vampire! I've not actually seen Haxen. I'll have to try and find time this weekend.

The thing I would remind people about silents: if you see some technique that has been used in modern films, remember that it was brand new in the silent.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2019 08:39 PM (Lqy/e)

46 "Battleship Potemkin" is a fine movie without the original Russian voice-over.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:39 PM (XzT/D)

47 I don't know which early Cleopatra it was (maybe the lost silent one), but the massive sets were left behind on the isolated CA central coast beach where it was shot, and every ten years or so a good sized storm will uncover parts of "ancient Egypt" near Pismo.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 19, 2019 08:40 PM (I99aF)

48 Spain was the first jurisdiction in Europe to say witchcraft was a fantasy, in the 1600s. England's last witch execution was 1701; Scotland's was 1745 (or '43).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Basque_witch_trials

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 08:40 PM (Dh1wo)

49 46 "Battleship Potemkin" is a fine movie without the original Russian voice-over.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:39 PM (XzT/D)

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I had long preferred Strike, but I watched both recently and discovered that Potemkin really is the better of the two. Hadn't seen them since college.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:40 PM (zZbCU)

50 The thing I would remind people about silents: if you see some technique that has been used in modern films, remember that it was brand new in the silent.

Except for the screaming.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:41 PM (arJlL)

51 47 I don't know which early Cleopatra it was (maybe the lost silent one), but the massive sets were left behind on the isolated CA central coast beach where it was shot, and every ten years or so a good sized storm will uncover parts of "ancient Egypt" near Pismo.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 19, 2019 08:40 PM (I99aF)

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That might have been Griffith's Intolerance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:41 PM (zZbCU)

52 Shadow of the Vampire is great. Has a bit of humor with the vampire being a typically demanding actor.

Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2019 08:42 PM (RAfu9)

53 I don't know which early Cleopatra it was (maybe the lost silent one), but the massive sets were left behind on the isolated CA central coast beach where it was shot, and every ten years or so a good sized storm will uncover parts of "ancient Egypt" near Pismo.

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I remember that. Today they probably have Prop. 65 placards stuck all over them.

Because Failifornia.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:42 PM (XVuno)

54 Just about the only movie I am looking forward to seeing these days is 1917. I seriously don't know if I should even bother with Star Wars IX. Other than that, movies are a big "meh" now.

I thought I'd throw this out there: something I thought of while looking at other B-movies. Is it possible that what we regard as B movies are, in some cases, nothing more than "test drives" for some directors to screw around and see what is possible and what they would like to work on in the future as a no-kidding A-movie? (Some director puts something together that he KNOWS will suck but he's just testing out effects, themes, camera angles, etc, and when he/she is done is of the mind "oh well, may as well recoup SOME cost. I'll release it.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 08:43 PM (ZXzOT)

55 The Criterion Channel has Haxon available for streaming.

It sounds horrifying and fascinating, like 'Come and See', which is also on the CC.

I haven't the gumption to watch either quite yet.

Posted by: lizabth at October 19, 2019 08:43 PM (L3Rsz)

56 Man, the inaccuracies... I should probably say nothing.

Posted by: Hillary! at October 19, 2019 08:44 PM (cfSLd)

57 JT - I find some 60s or 70s movie and start looking it up, it often pops up to watch on some website.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 08:44 PM (ZCEU2)

58 48
Spain was the first jurisdiction in Europe to say witchcraft was a
fantasy, in the 1600s. England's last witch execution was 1701;
Scotland's was 1745 (or '43).


According to Hillary, Tulsi Gabbard is a witch.

Posted by: pep at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (T6t7i)

59 I had long preferred Strike, but I watched both recently and discovered that Potemkin really is the better of the two. Hadn't seen them since college.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:40 PM (zZbCU)

As for me, give me Alexander Nevsky and Ivan the Terrible Part 1. I have both on DVD.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (ZXzOT)

60 Now I'm watching Billy Wilder's movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:39 PM (zZbCU)


I always recommend Sunset Boulevard, of course, and One, Two, Three. But I would be interested to know what you think of The Emperor Waltz, with Bing Crosby and Joan Fontaine.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (Ki5SV)

61 I am going to have to break down and watch one of these silent films. I think to start it will be the Great KA Train Robbery. If it is a Western it will be easier to appreciate the different art. No way I can just start with silent and super weird Also I will check out Buster Keaton at some point. His films sound interesting and important.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (n13/j)

62 According to Hillary, Tulsi Gabbard is a witch.
Posted by: pep at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (T6t7i)

Why, did Rep Gabbard turn her into a newt?





...she got better.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 08:46 PM (ZXzOT)

63 If you mute "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and sync the beginning of the movie with Devo's "Freedom Of Choice" album, you will achieve complete understanding.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:46 PM (XzT/D)

64 []
Why, did Rep Gabbard turn her into a newt?



...she got better.

Actually, I think the newt is an improvement.

Posted by: pep at October 19, 2019 08:47 PM (T6t7i)

65 54 I thought I'd throw this out there: something I thought of while looking at other B-movies. Is it possible that what we regard as B movies are, in some cases, nothing more than "test drives" for some directors to screw around and see what is possible and what they would like to work on in the future as a no-kidding A-movie? (Some director puts something together that he KNOWS will suck but he's just testing out effects, themes, camera angles, etc, and when he/she is done is of the mind "oh well, may as well recoup SOME cost. I'll release it.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 08:43 PM (ZXzOT)

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B movies kind of don't exist anymore. Straight to video movies kind of exist there now.

But that's exactly what B movies offered up and coming directors. Look at the earliest films of the directors of the 70s. Scorsese's first film was a bit trashy. Spielberg's first was a TV movie about a killer semi.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:47 PM (zZbCU)

66 " Is it possible that what we regard as B movies are, in some cases,
nothing more than "test drives" for some directors to screw around and
see what is possible and what they would like to work on in the future
as a no-kidding A-movie?"

Supposedly, Hitchcock's Psycho was an experiment to see what would happen if someone really good made a B movie.

Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2019 08:47 PM (RAfu9)

67 I don't know which early Cleopatra it was (maybe the lost silent one), but the massive sets were left behind on the isolated CA central coast beach where it was shot, and every ten years or so a good sized storm will uncover parts of "ancient Egypt" near Pismo.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 19, 2019 08:40 PM (I99aF)


I think that you're actually referring to the set of Cecil B. DeMille's 1923 The Ten Commandments:

https://tinyurl.com/yyqnb5md

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:48 PM (Ki5SV)

68 60
I always recommend Sunset Boulevard, of course, and One, Two, Three. But I would be interested to know what you think of The Emperor Waltz, with Bing Crosby and Joan Fontaine.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (Ki5SV)

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I'm going through them all.

And that's the one I watched earlier today.

Quite delightful, and self aware of the conventions of musicals. I really enjoyed it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:48 PM (zZbCU)

69 "Barry Lyndon" is best watched while debauching a saucy wench.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:49 PM (XzT/D)

70 61 I am going to have to break down and watch one of these silent films. I think to start it will be the Great KA Train Robbery. If it is a Western it will be easier to appreciate the different art. No way I can just start with silent and super weird Also I will check out Buster Keaton at some point. His films sound interesting and important.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (n13/

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The Great Train Robbery is a short, so it won't take long.

And yeah, Keaton. I'd recommend starting with The General. It's also an action movie with fantastic setpieces.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:50 PM (zZbCU)

71 The wife and I saw "Joker" today. We could barely talk afterwards. What a film. What a performance. Phoenix took from Nicholson and Ledger's Jokers and added heartbreaking pathos.

And it didn't hurt that there was an anti-Antifa vibe to it.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 19, 2019 08:51 PM (j4zcI)

72 Anyone looking forward to the release of Star Wars IX? I'm not.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


I celebrate its opening because that signals the final end of the long national nightmare that Star Wars has become.

Hoping against hope that they really will end it.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 08:51 PM (88cFV)

73 Supposedly, Hitchcock's Psycho was an experiment to see what would happen if someone really good made a B movie.
Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2019 08:47 PM (RAfu9)

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It is said that when Paramount greenlighted The Godfather it was expected that Coppola would just churn out a B movie gangster flick.

Coppola had other ideas and fought the studio the entire way to let him make something that was large scale and operatic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:52 PM (XVuno)

74 looking back at Kubrick's filmography, it is pretty much a joke how talented the guy was. 2001 was beyond original I know people who have never been interested in sci fi that were transfixed by that movie. Throw in The Killing, Barry Lyndon, Spartacus, and most of FMJ And those are just the films I liked. If he is not top five all time I don't know who is.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:52 PM (n13/j)

75 74 looking back at Kubrick's filmography, it is pretty much a joke how talented the guy was. 2001 was beyond original I know people who have never been interested in sci fi that were transfixed by that movie. Throw in The Killing, Barry Lyndon, Spartacus, and most of FMJ And those are just the films I liked. If he is not top five all time I don't know who is.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:52 PM (n13/

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"What about me?"
-Ed Wood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:53 PM (zZbCU)

76 "Corvette Summer" is not the best film of all time.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:53 PM (XzT/D)

77 I am going to have to break down and watch one of these silent films. I think to start it will be the Great KA Train Robbery. If it is a Western it will be easier to appreciate the different art. No way I can just start with silent and super weird Also I will check out Buster Keaton at some point. His films sound interesting and important.


There is a Lon Chaney movie I recommend for a first time silent called 'Tell It To The Marines.' It tells a good, followable story, and has a great performance by Chaney with no makeup or fantastic elements.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 08:54 PM (oVJmc)

78 The Great Train Robbery is a short, so it won't take long.



And yeah, Keaton. I'd recommend starting with The General. It's also an action movie with fantastic setpieces.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:50 PM (zZbCU)

Will Do. Your posts illuminated the genre. No way I would have thought about it without them.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:54 PM (n13/j)

79 I still think _Aelita, Queen of Mars_ is the most batshit insane silent movie ever made. Ever seen that one, MPPPP?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 19, 2019 08:54 PM (DYSh2)

80 I am going to have to break down and watch one of these silent films. I think to start it will be the Great KA Train Robbery. If it is a Western it will be easier to appreciate the different art. No way I can just start with silent and super weird Also I will check out Buster Keaton at some point. His films sound interesting and important.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:45 PM (n13/j)

The Great Train Robbery
is actually a good place to start. It's not very long and does tell a fairly coherent story. Silent comedy is a difficult genre - something I like might not be something you would like, although I would recommend any of the Fatty Arbuckle / Buster Keaton shorts, such as The Garage from 1920:

https://tinyurl.com/y4k4zzv6 (try to ignore the rinky-dink piano score).

As far as Keaton is concerned, I think The General is his best movie, though it does sag a little bit in the middle.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:54 PM (Ki5SV)

81 "...just as the witches of the Middle Ages were tortured and forced to confess their worship of Satan..."

The witch craze was a Renaissance and early Modern phenomenon. The first witch trial on record took place in 1500. There's a lot of misinformation about this out there. 99% of the time, the Christian church stopped witch trials. It was local folk religion that really fueled them. The 1% of the time when the church let them happen, or even played a role in them, are noteworthy for being so out of the ordinary.

Posted by: Jim S. at October 19, 2019 08:55 PM (ynUnH)

82 I still think _Aelita, Queen of Mars_ is the most batshit insane silent movie ever made. Ever seen that one, MPPPP?
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 19, 2019 08:54 PM (DYSh2)


I actually haven't, though it's been on my "list" for a long time. Hell, I still have Frau Im Mond in my queue and haven't watched it yet. I really should grab a copy and watch.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 08:56 PM (Ki5SV)

83 >>99% of the time, the Christian church stopped witch trials. It was local folk religion that really fueled them. Posted by: Jim S. at October 19, 2019 08:55 PM (ynUnH)

You will produce sourcing for this peculiar assertion.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:56 PM (XzT/D)

84 Watch The General and see if you like it.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 08:57 PM (ZCEU2)

85 Zod's handguns are never loaded with tow.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:58 PM (XzT/D)

86 Eyes Wide Shut is either underrated or overrated. I rate it "rated".

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 08:58 PM (Dqci2)

87 It turns out I was thinking of De Mille's silent Ten Commandments. The sets in question are buried in the dunes near Guadalupe, just south of San Luis Obispo.

This should not be confused with the Charlton Heston Ten Commandments, which came much later.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 19, 2019 08:58 PM (I99aF)

88 Six Modern Myths about Christianity and Western Civilization by Philip Sampson, chapter 6. Also The Witch in History by Diane Purkiss.

Posted by: Jim S. at October 19, 2019 08:58 PM (ynUnH)

89 "Corvette Summer" is not the best film of all time.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:53 PM (XzT/D)

I disagree.

Posted by: Mark H. at October 19, 2019 08:59 PM (n13/j)

90 85 Zod's handguns are never loaded with tow.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 08:58 PM (XzT/D)

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Note to self:

Do not get in staged duel with Zod.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 08:59 PM (zZbCU)

91 A movie that you might think a horror piece but which really isn't is Eyes of the Mummy from 1918, starring a young Pola Negri.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:00 PM (Ki5SV)

92 here is a Lon Chaney movie I recommend for a first
time silent called 'Tell It To The Marines.' It tells a good,
followable story, and has a great performance by Chaney with no makeup
or fantastic elements.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 08:54 PM (oVJmc)

thanks to all for the reccos. i will check that one out too.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:00 PM (n13/j)

93 Spielberg's first was a TV movie about a killer semi.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

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"Duel" with Dennis Weaver and a semi.

Semi not credited.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:00 PM (Y4EXg)

94 I still think _Aelita, Queen of Mars_ is the most batshit insane silent movie ever made. Ever seen that one, MPPPP?


I *HATE* that movie. It's pushed as a science-fiction film but it's really just a dreary film about dreary life following the Russian Revolution.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 09:01 PM (oVJmc)

95 So, basically, Haxan is a Jack Chick flick.

Director hates the Church, hates Christianity, and is fully pig-ignorant about the Inquisition(s).

Of course, in fairness, back in the 1920s the only Official Version of the inquisitions was the Black Legend popularized by English protestants.

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at October 19, 2019 09:01 PM (QU+qf)

96 Duel" with Dennis Weaver and a semi.

Semi not credited.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:00 PM (Y4EXg)

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Anthropomorphic SUVs were not yet a thing back then.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 09:01 PM (XVuno)

97 Catch Thirty-Thr33:

I would also like to see 1917, as it is a WWI flick and allegedly is one long take. It will be a struggle for me, though, to swallow the premise: A company (110 men) of British soldiers will be annihilated in a coming attack unless a soldier can get a message to them of some sort.

I will be sitting there saying: "AYFKM? The British will expect to lose 110 men in the first millisecond of any attack, and by 1917 had lost 500,000 men killed. What could possibly be so special about these 110 men that the British army would actually try to keep them from being killed in an attack?"

Anyway, still looks like it will be an interesting film.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 09:02 PM (88cFV)

98 Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome is more dreamlike than I remembered. Probably less masculine and dangerous than the other three. Tina Turner seems to not be used to her full potential.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2019 09:02 PM (LxTcq)

99

The ca

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 09:03 PM (EdeJT)

100
The car AND the truck from DUEL was used in an episode of The Incredible Hulk tv series. For real.

So, naturally, someone made this "alternative ending" to Duel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjhtr0vTtcw

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 09:06 PM (EdeJT)

101 The link to your full review of Joker goes to your review of Exorcist II.

Posted by: Jim S. at October 19, 2019 09:08 PM (ynUnH)

102 Saw the trailer for 1917, think I'd go see it

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 09:08 PM (ZCEU2)

103
The link to your full review of Joker goes to your review of Exorcist II.

Posted by: Jim S.



Your point?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 09:09 PM (EdeJT)

104 101 The link to your full review of Joker goes to your review of Exorcist II.
Posted by: Jim S. at October 19, 2019 09:08 PM (ynUnH

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Remove space. Sorry.

https://davidmvining.wordpress.com/ 2019/10/06/joker/

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:09 PM (zZbCU)

105 Someone should make a horror-documentary about Baron von Ungern-Sternberg. That would be a crazy, awesome movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 09:10 PM (5aX2M)

106 Trump killed Bambi's mom.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 09:11 PM (Kr4LK)

107 There is nothing wrong with "The Sound Of Music" that could not be improved by addition of two strafing Me-109s in the hilltop-dancing scene.

This is known.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:11 PM (XzT/D)

108
The car AND the truck from DUEL was used in an episode of The Incredible Hulk tv series. For real.


The TV show reused footage from the movie. You'd be surprised how often what you see as a TV episode is just filler around film clips.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 09:11 PM (oVJmc)

109 Cicero, your bold challenge to my pedantry re German operation code names in the last thread spurred me to review the topic and in so doing I came across a movie, so on-topic, kinda.


Documentary - rah-rah propaganda style, done during the war - "Rout of the German Forces Before Moscow". Just began it, but it's good, for those with an interest in such things. Apparently it was released in the US too.


The music is mostly variations on the melody of the rousing classic, "March of the Defenders of Moscow" - so probably won't find it in mixes of best movie scores. And no commercial product placements, far as I can tell ......







Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 09:12 PM (QDnY+)

110
There is nothing wrong with "The Sound Of Music" that could not be
improved by addition of two strafing Me-109s in the hilltop-dancing
scene.



This is known.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:11 PM (XzT/D)


See the Dave Allen (Irish comedian) version

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:12 PM (Um89f)

111 mad max is a western. thunderdome is an opera.

Posted by: mjc at October 19, 2019 09:12 PM (Pg+x7)

112

Yeah, it's called B-Roll.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 09:13 PM (EdeJT)

113 I think the semi from DUEL did petition to join SAG but Vin Diesel had already been taken.

( Sorry, couldn't resist. )

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:14 PM (Y4EXg)

114 "Semi not credited"

I did it as a favor for Spielberg. But the c*cksucker never gave me the role he promised

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:14 PM (Kr4LK)

115 I will be sitting there saying: "AYFKM? The British will expect to lose 110 men in the first millisecond of any attack, and by 1917 had lost 500,000 men killed. What could possibly be so special about these 110 men that the British army would actually try to keep them from being killed in an attack?"

Anyway, still looks like it will be an interesting film.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 09:02 PM (88cFV)

Agreed on both counts. Given the Brits had no qualms about coughing up 50,000 or so in a single day, what's the value of 110? For me, I just want to see a rare film about WWI.

I saw a modern version of All Quiet On The Western Front in 9th Grade in history class. It easily makes the list of Top 5 Most Depressing Movies I Have Ever Seen.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 09:15 PM (ZXzOT)

116 There is nothing wrong with "The Silence Of The Lambs" that could not be improved by the capture of Agent Starling and her joining the 'fat girl' at the bottom of Jame Gumb's dungeon-well, roll credits.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:15 PM (XzT/D)

117 Yeah, it's called B-Roll.


I've been watching The Time Tunnel (which I never got the opportunity to see before) and it's actually a brilliant idea on Irwin Allen's part, considering how many movies (like Khartoum) he could edit around while not having to film large chunks of each episode. Cheap, fast, and plenty of production value.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 09:16 PM (oVJmc)

118 115
Agreed on both counts. Given the Brits had no qualms about coughing up 50,000 or so in a single day, what's the value of 110? For me, I just want to see a rare film about WWI.

I saw a modern version of All Quiet On The Western Front in 9th Grade in history class. It easily makes the list of Top 5 Most Depressing Movies I Have Ever Seen.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 09:15 PM (ZXzOT)

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Ever seen A Very Long Engagement?

It's French and set during World War I by the guy who made Amelie (and...um...Alien Resurrection). It's very very good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:17 PM (zZbCU)

119 I saw a modern version of All Quiet On The Western Front in 9th Grade in history class. It easily makes the list of Top 5 Most Depressing Movies I Have Ever Seen.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

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Was that the one with Ernest Borgnine and Richard Thomas?

Yeah. Downer.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:17 PM (Y4EXg)

120 Re-watched "The Exorcist 3 (Legion)" today. Absolutely excellent, better than the first movie.
Kinderman: You know, I wonder if both of us are dreaming this.Father Dyer: No, Bill. I'm not dreaming.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at October 19, 2019 09:18 PM (nWmg2)

121 98 Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome is more dreamlike than I remembered. Probably less masculine and dangerous than the other three. Tina Turner seems to not be used to her full potential.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2019 09:02 PM (LxTcq)

I admit I prefer Mad Max and The Road Warrior. Beyond Thunderdome is good but it lacks the gritty feel of the previous two. I've always said Beyond Thunderdome is a more polished, slicker variation of the Mad Max movies.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 09:18 PM (ZXzOT)

122 Nice thread......thanks MP4!

Silent movies are fascinating as they give us a glimpse of a time when movies where still in their infancy and still give great entertainment and knowledge when compared to today's drek.

Like messages in a bottle from a more civilized time.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 19, 2019 09:18 PM (Z+IKu)

123
109 Cicero, your bold challenge to my pedantry re German operation code names in the last thread spurred me to review the topic and in so doing I came across a movie, so on-topic, kinda.

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Wait. Should I get a restraining order?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 09:19 PM (XVuno)

124 There is nothing wrong with "The Sound Of Music" that could not be
improved by addition of two strafing Me-109s in the hilltop-dancing
scene.

Or even better Capt Hilts racing by on a BMW motorbike in a German uniform chased by a squad of Germans on motorbikes with sidecars

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 09:19 PM (ZCEU2)

125 Was that the one with Ernest Borgnine and Richard Thomas?

Yeah. Downer.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:17 PM (Y4EXg)

The same. I recognized Ernest Borgnine in it but now one else sprang to mind.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 19, 2019 09:20 PM (ZXzOT)

126

Irwin Allen vs Quinn Martin?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 09:22 PM (EdeJT)

127 I saw a modern version of All Quiet On The Western Front in 9th Grade in history class. It easily makes the list of Top 5 Most Depressing Movies I Have Ever Seen.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33


Mostly because they gave the Paul Baumer role to Fucking John Boy Walton, but also the combat and ending.

Want depressing war film? I just finished watching The Pacific, ten part miniseries by the same folks who made Band of Brothers.

The last three episodes of The Pacific are EB Sledge fighting on Peleliu and Okinawa. Just awful, horrible relentless combat in the worst conditions possible. Sledge survived and wrote With The Old Breed On Peleliu and Okinawa, a classic.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 09:22 PM (88cFV)

128 All Quiet on the Western Front is another great movie but as it's right after the war it's going to be a sad anti war movie.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 09:23 PM (ZCEU2)

129 I like "Marooned: A Tragedy On Three Bases" performed by the Yankees tonight

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:24 PM (aUjDc)

130 >>Sledge survived and wrote With The Old Breed On Peleliu and Okinawa, a classic.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 09:22 PM (88cFV)

"Helmet For My Pillow" is good, too.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:24 PM (XzT/D)

131 WW1 was wasteful and like many wars, seems pointless once it was over. But no doubt popular history has won the World War 1 debate. That war in particular is deemed wasteful and even complicit in ways other wars are not. You don't see WW2 portrayed as senseless waste like you do WW1 It gets to the point of shows like Blackadder that show the leaders as basically insane.

My guess is that goes too far and is only part of the story. You used to see the same with popular views of the US Civil War. You would constantly hear or read "how stupid were they to line up like that and get shot" Or, "the doctors were so barbaric, they just sawed off legs".

The reality is usually a bit different if you dig a little deeper. I am not saying WW1 was not a waste, for sure it was. But tactics and technology can catch up with you sometimes. And it is chauvinistic to think we know better while the people living that experience were clueless. You see that with the Civil War. People today think the Generals had no clue how dangerous the weapons were.

Anyway, i bet they knew this is ww1 but didn't come up with a better alternative.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:25 PM (n13/j)

132 The plot of Joker is 1) Taxi Driver, 2) King of Comedy, and 3) Bernard Goetz, the Subway Vigilante, put in a blender with a dollop of Bruce Wayne origin

I found the first half good at giving the feel of The Bronx in the 70s where and when I grew up

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:26 PM (ARoqv)

133
On Rifftrax I saw a steaming turd called Birdemic. It's The Birds Meets Greta Thunberg. The birds are attacking people because of global warming. It's Manos: The Hands of Fate level of film making with a lefty preachy message.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 08:18 PM (Um89f)

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I still have no idea what that movie is trying to do. It is terrible in every possible way. Its only value is to be made fun of.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 19, 2019 09:26 PM (CAJOC)

134 Hey everybody! .. just kidding it's only me.

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 19, 2019 09:27 PM (B+t5k)

135 a better alternativve to WW1 would be almost any alrernative.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:27 PM (aUjDc)

136 135 a better alternativve to WW1 would be almost any alrernative.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:27 PM (aUjDc)

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"Does that include me?"
-The Russian Revolution

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:28 PM (zZbCU)

137 Would love to stay up until the ONT but 4am comes early even if I don't have any reason to get up then.
Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 09:28 PM (ZCEU2)

138

"Helmet For My Pillow" is good, too.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:24 PM (XzT/D)


Starring Mike Lindell

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:29 PM (Um89f)

139 134 Hey everybody! .. just kidding it's only me.
Posted by: > alan lana

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With that nick, you should have just said "Surprise!"

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 19, 2019 09:29 PM (CAJOC)

140 And if I made a horror movie about the Mad Baron, I'd work from the assumption that his belief that he was the reincarnation of Genghis Khan and the living manifestation of the God of War were correct. And there'd be dead commies all over the place of course.

It could be a really cool horror movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 09:29 PM (5aX2M)

141 >>Or even better Capt Hilts racing by on a BMW motorbike in a German uniform chased by a squad of Germans on motorbikes with sidecars
Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 09:19 PM (ZCEU2)

Yakety sax.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:29 PM (XzT/D)

142 I still have no idea what that movie is trying to
do. It is terrible in every possible way. Its only value is to be made
fun of.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 19, 2019 09:26 PM (CAJOC)



It is shit-tastically bad. It's Manos: The Hands of Fate level bad film making but with the lefty bilge throw in it's even worse. There was a sequel made apparently just as bad and the writer/director wants to make a third one.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:31 PM (Um89f)

143 The plot of Joker is 1) Taxi Driver, 2) King of Comedy, and 3) Bernard Goetz, the Subway Vigilante, put in a blender with a dollop of Bruce Wayne origin

I found the first half good at giving the feel of The Bronx in the 70s where and when I grew up
Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:26 PM (ARoqv)


That's a good summary, and indicates why I don't have any desire to see that movie.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:31 PM (Ki5SV)

144 Gallipoli was a great, depressing WWI movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 09:31 PM (5aX2M)

145 144 Gallipoli was a great, depressing WWI movie.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 09:31 PM (5aX2M)

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Is there a happy go lucky fun WW1 movie?

Like, song and dance in the trenches?

I want there to be one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

146 "Lair Of The White Worm" is not the best horror film of all time.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:33 PM (XzT/D)

147 the Italian run at World War I was pretty comical.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:33 PM (aUjDc)

148 Since there's some discussion of bad movies, I ought to mention Michael Adams' Showgirls, Teen Wolves and Astro Zombies: A Film Critic's Year-Long Quest to Find the Worst Movie Ever Made:

https://tinyurl.com/y632y33j

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:33 PM (Ki5SV)

149 "I think (and repeat viewings convince me) that he attributed their "hysteria" to a morbid preoccupation with sin. Not sex, but religion is responsible for suffering."

This has the ring of truth to it.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

150 >>144 Gallipoli was a great, depressing WWI movie.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 09:31 PM (5aX2M)

The series by the same name is really good.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:34 PM (XzT/D)

151 The plot of Joker is 1) Taxi Driver, 2) King of
Comedy, and 3) Bernard Goetz, the Subway Vigilante, put in a blender
with a dollop of Bruce Wayne origin



I found the first half good at giving the feel of The Bronx in the 70s where and when I grew up

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:26 PM (ARoqv)



That's a good summary, and indicates why I don't have any desire to see that movie.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:31 PM (Ki5SV)

Is it really that strong? Taxi Driver, Bernie Goetz? I thought the left was just projecting. If so, it seems dated though we could be going back to that NYC I guess. I might see Joker just to piss off the left. The last batman movie I saw wast the Dark Knight. And that was on the teevee.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:35 PM (n13/j)

152 Some movies are so bad that they can be fun to watch.

I put Showgirls in this category

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:37 PM (o2gg/)

153 151 Is it really that strong? Taxi Driver, Bernie Goetz? I thought the left was just projecting. If so, it seems dated though we could be going back to that NYC I guess. I might see Joker just to piss off the left. The last batman movie I saw wast the Dark Knight. And that was on the teevee.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:35 PM (n13/j)

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The Dark Knight Rises pissed off the far left because it is a retelling of A Tale of Two Cities and the modern left are Jacobins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:37 PM (zZbCU)

154
Is there a happy go lucky fun WW1 movie?

Sergeant York

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2019 09:38 PM (aKsyK)

155 "Bone Tomahawk."

"They don't eat negroes."
"Why not? Do they think they're poisonous?"

Probably Kurt Russell's finest work.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:38 PM (XzT/D)

156 Yes it is that strong. And The Bronx of that time could be that bad

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:38 PM (Ijy7v)

157 Is there a happy go lucky fun WW1 movie?

Like, song and dance in the trenches?

I want there to be one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:32 PM (zZbCU)


Did you ever see All This And World War II?

https://tinyurl.com/y6gyduap

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:38 PM (Ki5SV)

158 the Italian run at World War I was pretty comical.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:33 PM (aUjDc)

Have you seen Mediterraneo? it was set in WW2 but pretty comical as well. I realize it is simplistic and a generalization, but they showed the Italians as a nation are not really that big on war and conquest these days. They showed they care more about La Dolce Vita, and I don't fault them for that. I understand it is just a movie and only one side of the Italian character.

Regardless, it is a good movie.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:39 PM (n13/j)

159 OT - Just heard of building collapse in New Orleans.

*looks around for Engineer-in-a-Box CAD/CAM software*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 09:39 PM (Pu/Kw)

160 Is there a happy go lucky fun WW1 movie?



Like, song and dance in the trenches?



I want there to be one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at October 19, 2019 09:32 PM (zZbCU)


Joyeux Noel - 2005 is set during the Christmas truce of 1914 has singing in the trenches. Including Diane Kruger singing for the troops from both sides

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (Um89f)

161 "Bone Tomahawk."
Probably Kurt Russell's finest work.
Posted by: Zod

I think it's available on Prime right now.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (VNfwt)

162 Pure bullshit. It was the Catholic Church that sent Inquisators out to determine if real witchcraft was being done or if false claims were being made against widows in efforts to steal the leaseholds. In most cases, the person being accused was given a chance to explain and, if necessary, a chance to repent.

Posted by: JAS at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (DBGf/)

163 Joyeux Noel - 2005 is set during the Christmas truce of 1914 has singing in the trenches. Including Diane Kruger singing for the troops from both sides
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (Um89f)

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Singing in the trenches is TIGHT

Posted by: Pitch Meeting Guy at October 19, 2019 09:41 PM (XVuno)

164 >>I think it's available on Prime right now.
Posted by: Blutarski at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (VNfwt)

It is. With luck, there will be a sequel.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:41 PM (XzT/D)

165 Including Diane Kruger singing for the troops from both sides
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (Um89f)

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I'm tired
Tired of being admired
Tired of love and desire

Posted by: Lili Von Schtupp at October 19, 2019 09:42 PM (XVuno)

166 >>a chance to explain and, if necessary, a chance to repent. Posted by: JAS at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (DBGf/)

And, if necessary, a chance to die in a state of grace.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:43 PM (XzT/D)

167 what JAS said . leyenda negra, indeed.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:43 PM (aUjDc)

168 '
the Italian run at World War I was pretty comical.
"
Earnest Hemingway would disagree. Nothing like Military Police arresting you and you being tried and immediately executed to take the comedy out of it.

Posted by: JAS at October 19, 2019 09:43 PM (DBGf/)

169 161 "Bone Tomahawk."
Probably Kurt Russell's finest work.
Posted by: Zod

I think it's available on Prime right now.
Posted by: Blutarski at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (VNfwt)


That movie caught me completely by surprise. I thought it was going to be more or less a standard western. Heh. Little did I know...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 09:45 PM (jjpZH)

170 169 161 "Bone Tomahawk."
Probably Kurt Russell's finest work.
Posted by: Zod

I think it's available on Prime right now.
Posted by: Blutarski at October 19, 2019 09:40 PM (VNfwt)

That movie caught me completely by surprise. I thought it was going to be more or less a standard western. Heh. Little did I know...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 09:45 PM (jjpZH)

It went from zero to WTF pretty quick toward the end.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 09:46 PM (NWiLs)

171 Dear Santa:

Zod has been good this year. For Christmas he would like a throat-whistle like the guys have in the bone tomahawk movie, which was awesome (have you and Mrs. Claus seen it? You should!)

Cookies and milk in the usual place.

Thanks and bye,
your friend Zod

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:48 PM (XzT/D)

172 I watched Forbidden Planet last night. I've always thought that if I wasn't (a) grossly fat and (b) unable to sew a stitch, I'd like to go to a con dressed as one of the crew of the C57-D.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:49 PM (Ki5SV)

173 Peak Anne Francis. Twin peaks actually

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (8/I0m)

174 Twin peaks actually

Posted by: Brian Dennehey at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (8/I0m)


Speaking of that. The Caves of Androzani is on the Dr Who channel on Pluto TV. Nicola Bryant was a terrible actress but wow did she have...yuge tracks of land

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 09:53 PM (Um89f)

175 Small market underdogs from The Bronx putting up a fight. Can they overcome Satanic Kate Upton Ju Ju?

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 09:54 PM (fmKKb)

176 What about dressing up as Walter Pidgeon? Yeah. Anne Francis. Bunk time.
Leslie Nielsen was a serious actor once. Go figure.

Posted by: JAS at October 19, 2019 09:54 PM (DBGf/)

177 I see 'Christine' is almost over on AMC. The scene where the flaming Fury runs down the running thug is one of my favorite scenes. Too bad about his Camaro though.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 09:56 PM (Pu/Kw)

178 I have been on the fence with Bone Tomahawk. It comes up as a recommended film. I guess i will have to check it out.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:56 PM (n13/j)

179 a better alternativve to WW1 would be almost any alrernative.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo


I once called in to a radio show in Seattle during which the guest kept saying:

"Imagine a world without nuclear weapons!!!"

I said: "World War II. 55 million dead, and then nuclear weapons ended it."

The guest was too much hippie to get the point, sadly.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 09:58 PM (88cFV)

180 "Can they overcome Satanic Kate Upton Ju Ju?"

Kate Upton can come over to my place

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (aUjDc)

181 >>178 I have been on the fence with Bone Tomahawk. It comes up as a recommended film. I guess i will have to check it out.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 09:56 PM (n13/j)

It's complex and misunderstood. Deserves a thoughtful, attentive viewing.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (XzT/D)

182 Well, it's been nice hanging out with you all. Hope you enjoyed my little post.

Have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (Ki5SV)

183 >>Kate Upton can come over to my place
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (aUjDc)

Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:02 PM (XzT/D)

184 Oh and one more note... Roman Fyodorovich Ungern-Sternberg was the only White commander - perhaps the only human being, period - who Feliks Dzerzhinsky feared and respected.

He even spooked out Iron freakin' Feliks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:04 PM (5aX2M)

185 182 thanks for doing it. I will look into this movie because you took the effort. It won't be my first choice but it will be remembered. There is nothing like learning something new.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:04 PM (n13/j)

186 the Russian Civil War was one conflict I wished all the sides lost. except the Czechs and Poles.

the White armies spent too much time playing The Running Of The Jew and not enough time consolidating their positions and coordinating tactics

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (aUjDc)

187 Regarding Witchcraft Through the Ages, when I recently saw the scene of the hysterical "modern" woman imagining her physician magically entering her room in the middle of the night to molest her, my first thought was, "She was the Christine Blasey-Ford of the 1920s!"

But, no, not really, because the crazy woman of the 1920s was not deliberately lying.

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (2RBkF)

188 the White armies spent too much time playing The Running Of The Jew and not enough time consolidating their positions and coordinating tactics
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (aUjDc)

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This was a problem. But moreso, the quibbling over monarchism versus provisional government. I'd argue that Semenov and the above mentioned Mad Baron were their best commanders, but Wrangel and Kolchak basically anathematized them.

And it didn't help that Ungern-Sternberg was a barking mad Buddhist ascetic Baltic-German Tsarist warlord who dreamt of a global Mongolian Khanate above the other goals.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (5aX2M)

189 The movie that has haunted me through the decades - since 1968 - is "The Conqueror Worm" with Vincent Price. The ending is weird, unfinished, bizarre.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 19, 2019 10:17 PM (u5LFV)

190 Also, while I haven't yet watched Carl Theodor Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc, I have seen another "witch hunt" movie by the same director, Day of Wrath. Oddly enough, the star of the latter movie is a dead ringer for Elizabeth Montgomery in Bewitched.

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 19, 2019 10:22 PM (2RBkF)

191 Just finished Haxan. I'm pleasantly surprised that it was as well done as it was. Nosferatu good.

Posted by: Rob in Seattle at October 20, 2019 12:28 AM (INhlc)

192 179 a better alternativve to WW1 would be almost any alrernative.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

I once called in to a radio show in Seattle during which the guest kept saying:

"Imagine a world without nuclear weapons!!!"

I said: "World War II. 55 million dead, and then nuclear weapons ended it."

The guest was too much hippie to get the point, sadly.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2019 09:58 PM (88cFV)

Bravo, Sharkman.

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 03:22 AM (I9xeT)

193 Here is the trouble watching Haxan as a person who is a serious, albeit amateur, Egyptologist: About 5 minutes in, the Egyptian goddess of childbirth was depicted as an element of evil. Hard pass at that point.

Posted by: Mutnodjmet at October 20, 2019 09:58 AM (sPJyv)

194 PS. However, after switching off Haxan, I turned to a delightful Italian horror made in the 1970's, Suprisia. I enjoyed that, for a seasonal film treat. There is also an newer version of the film with Tilda Swinton.

Posted by: Mutnodjmet at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (sPJyv)

195 So I'll probably get chewed out for posting to an old thread but it'll be worth it. Thank you, MP4. This was excellent.

Posted by: creeper at October 20, 2019 10:53 AM (MHz7Y)

196 145. Is there a happy go lucky fun WW1 movie?



Like, song and dance in the trenches?



I want there to be one.
The closest I can come to that is Oh! What a Lovely War (1969), directed by Richard Attenborough. It's actually an anti-war film, but told by contemporary musical numbers. It's a forgotten gem.

Posted by: Brett at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (W8x4j)

Saturday Afternoon Chess Thread 10-19-2019

GM Anton Korobov.jpg
GM Anton Korobov, apparently contemplating a less-than-ideal position

(Either that or he's just realized he could've saved 10-15% on car insurance by switching to Geico.)

(h/t lurker 'Guy' for the photo)

TheJamesMadison will be along later with the movie thread. This week, he'll be sub-letting (or is it sub-sub-letting?) the thread out to MP4, whose movie review of an old classic will be getting us into the spirit of Halloween early.

As always, the chess/dress pr0n thread is an open thread, so there is no such thing as an off-topic comment.



Beginner Problem - White To Play (Chess #3544)

Yeah, I know this position looks kind of weird. How did White's king get all the way up there behind the black pawns? I didn't notice this until it was too late to pick a better probem.

Goal: White can force mate in 2 moves
Hint: One of those knights is kind of in the way


20191019 - Problem 1.jpg
3K1Rn1/3p2p1/1pp1k3/4pN1R/2P1NP2/4np1b/B2b4/6q1 w - - 0 1



Chess Babe o' the Week:

WIM Cecile Haussernot 02.jpg
WIM Cecile Haussernot (FRA)



The Game of Chess, Reviewed By Gamer

Mildly amusing. Sort of NSFW for language. (h/t 'MesterJeger')'



Intermediate Problem - Black To Play (1053)

Goal: Black can force mate in 6 moves
Hint: Draw White's king even further out by sac'ing a piece


20191019 - Problem 2.jpg
1rb1k1nr/p1qpppbp/6p1/8/2N1P3/2PK1BN1/P2P1PPP/R1BQ3R b k - 0 1



Advanced Problem - White To Play (1054)

How does White play this position? Again, once you think you've found a good first move for White, try to find Black's best defense.

Hint: Find a way to quickly bring the rook into play


20191019 - Problem 3.jpg
rn1q1k1r/pb1n2pp/1p1P4/8/2Bp4/8/PPP1Q1PP/R1B3K1 w - - 0 1



Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes:




20191019 dress pr0n 01.jpg




20191019 dress pr0n 02.jpg




20191019 dress pr0n 03.jpg




20191019 dress pr0n kate.jpg




20191019 dress pr0n Oktoberfest 01.jpg
(Greetings From Oktoberfest)

More Oktoberfest fotos:

Moar bier!
A busty barmaid
Some real dogs




20191019 dress pr0n melania.jpg

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Solutions Update

Beginner Problem - White To Play


20191019 - Problem 1.jpg
3K1Rn1/3p2p1/1pp1k3/4pN1R/2P1NP2/4np1b/B2b4/6q1 w - - 0 1

Mate in 2:

1. Nd4+ exd4
2. Re5# 1-0

Intermediate Problem - Black To Play


20191019 - Problem 2.jpg
1rb1k1nr/p1qpppbp/6p1/8/2N1P3/2PK1BN1/P2P1PPP/R1BQ3R b k - 0 1

It's mate in 6 -- or less.

1...Qxc4+
2.Kxc4

If 2.Kc2 then 2...Qa4+ 3.Kd3 Ba6+ 4.c4 Qxc4+ 5.Ke3 Bh6#
2...Ba6+
3.Kc5 Rb5+
4.Kc4 Rb6+
5.Kc5 d6+
6.Kd5 e6#


Advanced Problem - White To Play


20191019 - Problem 3.jpg
rn1q1k1r/pb1n2pp/1p1P4/8/2Bp4/8/PPP1Q1PP/R1B3K1 w - - 0 1

Answer:

1. Bg5 Nf6

The Bishop is immune from capture here. If 1...Qxg5 then 2.Rf1+ Nf6 (2...Bf3 3.Rxf3+ Qf6 4.Qe7#) 3.Qe7#)

2.Rf1 Bf3

Black is reduced to throwing pieces at the coming onslaught.

3.Rxf3 Qxd6
4.Rxf6+ Qxf6
5.Bxf6 gxf6
6.Qe6 Kg7
7.Qf7+ Kh6
8.Qxf6+ Kh5
9.Be2#

Hope to see you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and paste it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:21 PM




Comments

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1 I came back to see chess babes
thats just wrong

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:21 PM (Bf3hj)

2 2nd

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:21 PM (Bf3hj)

3 3rd

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:21 PM (Bf3hj)

4 wake up people

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:21 PM (Bf3hj)

5 Was that really necessary?

Posted by: DaveA at October 19, 2019 05:22 PM (FhXTo)

6 Hello!

Posted by: IC at October 19, 2019 05:22 PM (3SIip)

7 Speaking of games, I'm going to have Sam Adams Oktoberfest beer at my poker game tonight.

Posted by: HH at October 19, 2019 05:23 PM (mIJBI)

8 Going to see the Joker tonight. A Sam Adams Oktoberfest before going in sounds damn good

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:24 PM (Bf3hj)

9 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:25 PM (arJlL)

10 that Dior gown is gorgeous

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 05:25 PM (G546f)

11 That chess babe needs some, uh,
make up

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 05:25 PM (ZCEU2)

12 That chess babe needs some, uh,
make up
Posted by: Skip

Prolly deoderant too.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:27 PM (arJlL)

13 11 That chess babe needs some, uh,
make up
Posted by: Skip

==

I thoyght it was the Yakov tranny from Canuckistan

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 05:28 PM (G546f)

14 Huh! Someone knows how it feels! On to problem 1...

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 05:28 PM (Ry8mf)

15 Chessssssssss ... gollum.

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 05:28 PM (vWMNq)

16 And a haircut.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:28 PM (arJlL)

17 Melania is ALWAYS stunning.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at October 19, 2019 05:28 PM (h7sWp)

18 that Dior gown is gorgeous

Which one is the Dior gown ?

And how do ya tell ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:29 PM (arJlL)

19 Alright, alright, I'll put up a chess babe!

Sheeesh...

Give me a minute.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 05:29 PM (jjpZH)

20 I think I have the easy and intermediate problems solved ... on to the advanced ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 05:34 PM (vWMNq)

21 11
That chess babe needs some, uh,

make up

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 05:25 PM (ZCEU2)


Transposition to female.

Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2019 05:34 PM (RAfu9)

22 18 that Dior gown is gorgeous

Which one is the Dior gown ?

And how do ya tell ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:29 PM (arJlL)


In this case, it says so in the text directly above the photo.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 05:35 PM (jjpZH)

23 Hiya, JT!
That Melania dress is interesting. Wonder where it was that she wore it.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 05:35 PM (Vf4Y7)

24 Chess babe looks sardonic.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 19, 2019 05:35 PM (2qy8c)

25 Bon.

Posted by: DaveA at October 19, 2019 05:36 PM (FhXTo)

26 Beer babe on the right has really nice eyes, and cleavage.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 19, 2019 05:36 PM (1g7ch)

27 I came back to see chess babes
thats just wrong
Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:21 PM (Bf3hj)


At first glance I thought it was Rosanne Barr.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 19, 2019 05:38 PM (1g7ch)

28 The big news in gaming last week was, Hail The Communist Party Of The Glorious Chinese Nation!

Some running dogs of the American swine are set for an inevitably futile protest of BlizzCon -
youtube.com/watch?v=5FuxsoqHaCs

Blizzard have also canceled the Overwatch event, refusing generous offer by Chinese Liberation Army forces to provide security -
youtube.com/watch?v=oWQXY5WZNZM

Any one caught using an image of Winnie The Pooh will be garrotted and the string billed to family.

Long life to Xi!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 05:38 PM (ykYG2)

29 I'm cracking up

French too

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 05:38 PM (ZCEU2)

30 In this case, it says so in the text directly above the photo.

oh.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:39 PM (arJlL)

31 Hiya Mrs. Leggy !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 05:39 PM (arJlL)

32 Painted a bathroom this afternoon. Ready for a beer. And boobs.

Beer babe on the right has really nice eyes, and cleavage.
Posted by: Burnt Toast

---

True but the woman next to her has crushed her beer in a hurry - she may be a better choice to entice with my charming patter.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 05:42 PM (Y4EXg)

33 Oktoberfest babe on the left: MY NAME IS SUSAN AND I JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON.

Posted by: JuJuBee at October 19, 2019 05:43 PM (RqQOX)

34 A busty barmaid


Now that should be the chest babe.

Posted by: Vic at October 19, 2019 05:44 PM (mpXpK)

35 Latest revelation from the Sainted Greta?

We are not enemies of a political party. PHYSICS is our enemy.

/facepalm

Literally declaring WAR on the Universe itself.

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 19, 2019 05:44 PM (NgKpN)

36 Is this also the cocktail/cigar hour thread? Because that what I'm planning to have in a few minutes.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 05:45 PM (Vf4Y7)

37 Chess Thread Huzzah!

That chess "broad" Anton looks like one of the democrat candidates.

The Oktoberfest ladies sure seem nice.....Uberraschung anal and bier jedermann!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 19, 2019 05:47 PM (Z+IKu)

38 36 Is this also the cocktail/cigar hour thread? Because that what I'm planning to have in a few minutes.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 05:45 PM (Vf4Y7)

/Yells like in the movie 300

THIS IS AOS!

its always cocktail and cigar hour, pants optional.

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 19, 2019 05:47 PM (NgKpN)

39 Getting ready to have 25 folks at the house for a going away bbq for my boot camp
Bound son.

First to Mass, then the chaos begins....

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 19, 2019 05:49 PM (PkVlr)

40 35: Calculus is terrorism!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 05:49 PM (0PqGj)

41 Let's get physics banned
Physics banned
I wanna get physics banned
Let's get into physics banned
Lemme hear Gaia talk
Gaia talk
Lemme hear Gaia talk

Posted by: Greta Neutron-Bomb at October 19, 2019 05:50 PM (RqQOX)

42 Today Melania is shown wearing a $5,500 sequined Erdem cocktail dress worn at NYE party in Mar-a-lago 2018.

Clusters of embroidered flowers are scattered throughout the forties-inspired silhouette.

Though Erdem released the dress with a periwinkle-color belt, Melania removed it for the New Year's Eve party at Mar-a-Lago.

The resulting look, then, was more eighties than its original iteration.

She finished the look off with pointed-toe stilettos in a matching shade of pink.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 05:50 PM (Dhht7)

43 What do you mean you don't want to wear a stupid leotard. HOW DARE YOU.

Posted by: Greta Neutron-Bomb at October 19, 2019 05:51 PM (RqQOX)

44

How are those women carrying those beers in the Moar bier picture?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2019 05:51 PM (aKsyK)

45 Advanced Problem.

1. Bg5 Qxg5
2. Rf1+ any (either Qf6 or Nf6 ... or Qf5)
3. Qe7#

So black needs to try something else on move 1.

1. Bg5 Nf6
2. Qe6 Qe8
3. Qxf6+ gxf6
4. Bh6#

Black can give away the B on b7 to make this one move longer.

It seems to me that any other move for black leaves him open to Rf1+ ... except Qf6 so ...

1. Bg5 Qf6
2. Bxf6 Nc6 ( ... Nxf6 3. Qe6 any 4. Qf7#).
3. Qe6 Ne8 (or Qf7#)
4. Qe7#

I think that covers everything.

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 05:52 PM (vWMNq)

46 Thank the good Lord. It's been a long day. And it's beautiful outside.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 05:52 PM (Vf4Y7)

47 oooh a dark & mysterious Chess Babe for Halloween. Thanks!

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 05:53 PM (Bf3hj)

48 Anton is trying to think of a way to checkmate his opponent in 20 moves.

Posted by: dantesed at October 19, 2019 05:53 PM (88xKn)

49 Lovely fashion photos. The Dior gown is simple perfection though.

Posted by: Tuna at October 19, 2019 05:54 PM (jm1YL)

50 Ms. Haussernot appears satisfied and at peace.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 05:54 PM (XVuno)

51
Here's another angle on that Extinction Rebellion extinction.

https://twitter.com/PetiteNicoco/status/
1185555981821980673

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 05:56 PM (13CQC)

52 Those last Octoberfest girls are scrimping with my beer order.

Waterboard them wup wupp wuppp.

Frauleins und other round for mein thirsty girlfreund...ze ish still zober......

Posted by: saf at October 19, 2019 05:56 PM (5IHGB)

53 Kate in Jenny Packham I believe. The teal blue is a beautiful color. Also love our little Korean model in the navy and while polka dots.

Posted by: Tuna at October 19, 2019 05:58 PM (jm1YL)

54 I'm still stuck on #1

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 05:58 PM (ZCEU2)

55 "The religious voter and Trump." Even my Dem clergy friends were upset that Beto suggested removing the tax free status of churches which according to Beto-have an anti LBGT agenda. What would be the next step after that?:

https://tinyurl.com/y25mtm5g

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 05:59 PM (j0JAA)

56
How do they get all the chess chix and the dress ladies to stand still for the paintings. hUH?


aaah so TAXIDERMY...makes sense now.....

Posted by: saf at October 19, 2019 06:00 PM (5IHGB)

57 How are those women carrying those beers in the Moar bier picture?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2019 05:51 PM (aKsyK)


I don't know. Their biceps must be just yuuuge.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:00 PM (jjpZH)

58 54
I'm still stuck on #1


It's really simple. A bit hard to see but just try everything!

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 06:00 PM (vWMNq)

59 Germanic titties, good for keeping you warm in the winter...

Posted by: Poor Bastard at October 19, 2019 06:01 PM (T+7wg)

60 Moar Bier Chick No. 1 sports quite an impressive set of choppers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:01 PM (XVuno)

61 Oktoberfest babe on the left: MY NAME IS SUSAN AND I JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON.

One day, whilst walking back to work, I met an attractive young lady, and we started talking, and she was just out of prison, living in a halfway house.

Unfortunately, this story doesn't end like Bitter Clinger's.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:01 PM (arJlL)

62 Kate Middleton is on the red carpet in a Jenny Packham Sheer Cap Lace Chiffon Sleeve Evening Dress.

Unfortunately, what cannot be seen is the absolutelely stunning lace back of the dress.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 06:03 PM (Dhht7)

63 Germanic titties, good for keeping you warm in the winter...
Posted by: Poor Bastard at October 19, 2019 06:01 PM (T+7wg)



The Germans lost the Battle of Moscow because of the cold. Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:03 PM (XVuno)

64 How are those women carrying those beers in the Moar bier picture?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2019 05:51 PM (aKsyK)

I don't know. Their biceps must be just yuuuge.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monito

Not to mention their pectorals.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:03 PM (arJlL)

65 Not to mention their pectorals.
Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:03 PM (arJlL)


Don't overlook the washboard abs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:04 PM (XVuno)

66 Germanic titties, good for keeping you warm in the winter...
Posted by: Poor Bastard at October 19, 2019 06:01 PM (T+7wg)


The Germans lost the Battle of Moscow because of the cold. Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: Cicero

"Ach ! I KNEW we forgot to bring somezing !"

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:05 PM (arJlL)

67 I think that covers everything.
Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 05:52 PM (vWMNq)


What about 2...Nbd7 to defend the knight on f6?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:05 PM (jjpZH)

68 One day, whilst walking back to work, I met an attractive young lady, and we started talking, and she was just out of prison, living in a halfway house.

Posted by: JT

----

Don't leave me hanging! Did you ask what she was in for?

Big difference between being in for solicitation or aggravated murder/kidnapping.

Just say'n.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 06:05 PM (Y4EXg)

69 Inconsistent deployment of the Boobengruppen units probably cost Germany a victory in Operation Barbarossa.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:06 PM (XVuno)

70 Serve the Germans right for not taking enough titties to Moscow...

Posted by: Long Dong Wong at October 19, 2019 06:07 PM (UFLLM)

71 I finally saw the beer girls, very nice

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 06:09 PM (ZCEU2)

72 60 Moar Bier Chick No. 1 sports quite an impressive set of choppers.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:01 PM (XVuno)


Each one of those barmaids in that photo are carrying 12 (!) steins of beer. 12! And they don't look like the small size, either. How is that even possible?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:10 PM (jjpZH)

73 Is this also the cocktail/cigar hour thread? Because that what I'm planning to have in a few minutes.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy

If I was there, I'd light your cigar for ya.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:10 PM (arJlL)

74 It's a pretty damn happy crowd here at CenTexMoMee. Especially after we got to shoot a 30 caliber machine gun.

Carry on.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at October 19, 2019 06:11 PM (nV9fs)

75 One day, whilst walking back to work, I met an attractive young lady, and we started talking, and she was just out of prison, living in a halfway house.

Posted by: JT

----

Don't leave me hanging! Did you ask what she was in for?

Big difference between being in for solicitation or aggravated murder/kidnapping.

Just say'n.
Posted by: Tonypete

I didn't ask, and I didn't WANNA know.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:12 PM (arJlL)

76 69 Inconsistent deployment of the Boobengruppen units probably cost Germany a victory in Operation Barbarossa.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:06 PM (XVuno)


Was this the so-called 'Titzkrieg' that's in all the history books?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:12 PM (jjpZH)

77 67 What about 2...Nbd7 to defend the knight on f6?


Qf7#

That was the point of Qe8.

I showed Qf7# in the third line and I thought it was obvious. The line ending with Bh6# is the prettiest. It is a version of <someone-or-others> mate ... let me look it up.

Boden's mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 06:13 PM (vWMNq)

78 OM, the Game of Chess Reviewed by a Gamer was a good one. Enjoyed it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 06:13 PM (Dhht7)

79 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 05:59 PM (j0JAA)

Those are very interesting comments in the post from the "I could never vote for that icky Trump" contingent. I honestly can't fathom people who claim to be so appalled by -- what, his brashness? -- that they would stand by and let a Hillary, Fauxcahontas, or Beto have the presidency. Even though those horrible Dems stand for baby-killing, socialism, graft, political violence and forced imposition of radical social changes -- every evil that they claim to oppose.

But Trump is icky? Really? Honestly, he just seems to drive some people insane.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:14 PM (XVuno)

80 Inconsistent deployment of the Boobengruppen units probably cost Germany a victory in Operation Barbarossa.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:06 PM (XVuno)

Was this the so-called 'Titzkrieg' that's in all the history books?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:12 PM (jjpZH)
-----
The SS Bustenhalterbatallion nearly won the Battle of the Bulge for the Germans.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 19, 2019 06:16 PM (iB1oa)

81 79 Honestly, he just seems to drive some people insane.


No. It is insane, lying, democrat propaganda that has poisoned the well so thoroughly that anyone without the wit to check facts believes what they are told.

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 06:17 PM (vWMNq)

82 Am I banned again?

Posted by: concerned people's front at October 19, 2019 06:17 PM (NM/OW)

83 Am I banned again?
Posted by: concerned people's front at October 19, 2019 06:17 PM (NM/OW)


Yes. You go now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:18 PM (XVuno)

84 Beto and Castro pimping for free tampons because it is #nationalperiodday or something.

There is no depth to which they will not stoop to pander.

Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2019 06:18 PM (ZfRYq)

85 >>> 83 Am I banned again?
Posted by: concerned people's front at October 19, 2019 06:17 PM (NM/OW)
Yes. You go now.

You been heah foah owah!

Posted by: fluffy at October 19, 2019 06:19 PM (dCRRg)

86 My disappeared comment was:
Jeesh, Warren, Sanders and Biden. I've seen younger faces on cash!

Posted by: concerned people's front at October 19, 2019 06:19 PM (NM/OW)

87 Each one of those barmaids in that photo are carrying 12 (!) steins of beer. 12! And they don't look like the small size, either. How is that even possible?

Same way ya get to Carnegie Hall.

PRACTICE !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:19 PM (arJlL)

88 Wasn't das motorboating a favor German torture technique?

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 19, 2019 06:20 PM (2qy8c)

89 Well technically Cicero, Moscow was Typhoon, not Barbarossa, but you 1%ers are allowed leeway on such matters.


And the bier madchen staff does appear healthy.


Makes me .... thirsty, that's it. Thirsty.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 06:21 PM (QDnY+)

90 77 67 What about 2...Nbd7 to defend the knight on f6?
Qf7#

That was the point of Qe8.


Oops. Try this:

1.Bg5 Nf6
2.Qe6 Qd7

Now what?

(I think 2.Qe6 is premature. I'm not seeing a mate in this line.)

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:21 PM (jjpZH)

91 I haven't been hear ten minute. Pork fried rice ready.

Posted by: concerned people's front at October 19, 2019 06:21 PM (NM/OW)

92 62. It's just as well. Half the time Middleton's clothes look like they're wearing her. This is one of those times.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 06:21 PM (qYKU9)

93 Hiya

Love that Dior dress!

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2019 06:21 PM (CxzJp)

94 I'm finishing a hefeweizen at a local brewery. They have steins. I drink too slowly for them.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 19, 2019 06:22 PM (2qy8c)

95 I see OM is back on good terms with his Korean girlfriend. Last week she wouldn't make eye contact.

Posted by: fluffy at October 19, 2019 06:25 PM (dCRRg)

96 95 I see OM is back on good terms with his Korean girlfriend. Last week she wouldn't make eye contact.
Posted by: fluffy at October 19, 2019 06:25 PM (dCRRg)


Sometimes she's shy.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:26 PM (jjpZH)

97 Looking at the beer girls its hard to say which to me is the prettiest, and while I don't know for sure if a poll was taken that you had to pick one, which would you?

1. 2,3,4,5

Me 5

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 06:26 PM (ZCEU2)

98 Me 5

Me Tarzan

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:28 PM (arJlL)

99 The Germans made a terrible mistake, thinking there was Christmas bread at Stollengrad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:28 PM (Pu/Kw)

100 Trumpenrally in Nuremburg, I mean Misissippi, tonight.


Trump's energy level alone makes a dramatic contrast with his pathetic would-be challengers.


"This is the point in the movie where the scientists realize attacking the monster only makes it stronger"



Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 06:28 PM (QDnY+)

101 Maybe Melania should have used the periwinkle belt that came with the dress. I'm a FLOTUS fangirl, so it pains me to say this - She looks like she's wearing a 1940s lampshade.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 06:29 PM (qYKU9)

102 Kate for the win in contemporary fashion. Otherwise, that Dior is perfect.

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2019 06:29 PM (U7k5w)

103 90 Oops. Try this:


I think you're right about "premature" ... so.

1. Bg5 Nf6 (Q does not work above)

Either Re1 or Rf1 seems "obvious" if Qe6 is "premature" but now Black has way too many choices. I'd bet on:

2. Rf1

because it threatens

3. Rxf6+ gxf6
4. Bh6# (ish) ...

But I'm out of time for tonight.

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 06:30 PM (vWMNq)

104 Maybe Melania should have used the periwinkle belt that came with the dress. I'm a FLOTUS fangirl, so it pains me to say this - She looks like she's wearing a 1940s lampshade.


meow

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:31 PM (arJlL)

105 Kate's dresses always seem to overwhelm her.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 06:31 PM (Vf4Y7)

106 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 06:14 PM (XVuno)

Yes; I don't understand NeverTrumpers who think Trump is so brash that it would be o.k. not to vote for him even if that meant we get a progressive who curtails religious freedom and many other freedoms.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 06:32 PM (j0JAA)

107 Easy problem: 1. Nd4+ e5xd4 (forced) 2. Re5#
Intermediate: 1. ... Qxc4+ 2. Kxc4 Ba6+ 3. Kc5 or Kd5 d6+ or e6+ forces king to 6th rank and rapid mate.

Posted by: civil truth at October 19, 2019 06:32 PM (QMp6w)

108 Melania's dress looks as if it had a Japanese/Chinese influence.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 19, 2019 06:33 PM (MwFQu)

109 Hiya Fen !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:33 PM (arJlL)

110 My favorite dress is the purple-ish and white sheer flowered dress on the blonde model.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 06:33 PM (j0JAA)

111 Melania's dress looks as if it had a Japanese/Chinese influence.
Posted by: Fox2!

So, ya mean, on one hand, it wants to bomb Pearl Harbor, and on the other hand, it wants to unleash Chiang Kai Shek ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:36 PM (arJlL)

112 Yes; I don't understand NeverTrumpers who think Trump is so brash that it would be o.k. not to vote for him even if that meant we get a progressive who curtails religious freedom and many other freedoms.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
-----

They have been exposed to non-stop, every-waking-hour diatribes accusing the man of of being an ogre. After a while, it becomes an inextricable pathology

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:36 PM (Pu/Kw)

113 Fen - one day I will explode on my older relatives who snicker at each other when one mentions something negative about Trump, and every one is a religious church goer whovotes Democrat

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 06:36 PM (ZCEU2)

114 Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 06:30 PM (vWMNq)

Yeah, 2.Rf1 is necessary.

I probably would've went for 2.Qe6, too. These sorts of subtleties are damn hard to see OTB.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:37 PM (jjpZH)

115 Damn I miss Oktoberfest.
Had many awesome adventures there and a great mug collection!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 06:37 PM (axyOa)

116 Melania's dress looks as if it had a Japanese/Chinese influence.
Posted by: Fox2!
------

Conclusive proof of collusion!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:37 PM (Pu/Kw)

117 104. Astros are gonna smoke the Yankees.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 06:37 PM (qYKU9)

118 Is that the Unknown Stooge up there?

Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 19, 2019 06:38 PM (ls8Ac)

119 104. Astros are gonna smoke the Yankees.
Posted by: kallisto

Ya really know how to hit a guy where it hurts !

LOL

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:39 PM (arJlL)

120 1. 2,3,4,5

Me 5
Posted by: Skip at

****

4

German ginger. Very special. She vill make you talk!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 06:40 PM (axyOa)

121 >>> 97 Looking at the beer girls its hard to say which to me is the prettiest, and while I don't know for sure if a poll was taken that you had to pick one, which would you?
1. 2,3,4,5
Me 5

Two observations:

1) They all have brown eyes

B) #5 reminds me of Jenna Marbles

Posted by: fluffy at October 19, 2019 06:40 PM (dCRRg)

122 They have been exposed to non-stop, every-waking-hour diatribes accusing the man of of being an ogre. After a while, it becomes an inextricable pathology
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:36 PM (Pu/Kw)


You should peruse any of the anti-Trump twitter threads. Everybody is in a competition to come up with the worst, bad thing they can say about Trump and they just whip each other up into a mindless frenzy of hatred. It's actually kind of scary to watch.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:40 PM (jjpZH)

123 Is that the Unknown Stooge up there?

Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

Me Tarzan

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:41 PM (arJlL)

124 The Brexit fun continues. Now BoJo sends required request for delay to EU, but *also* sends letter arguing agin' it.


No-deal, clean Brexit may yet happen by Oct. 31. Woo hoo.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 06:41 PM (QDnY+)

125 Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 19, 2019 06:38 PM (ls8Ac)


There aren't any. Well, Magnus Carlsen maybe. But that's about it. All the rest look like the geeks and nerds you made fun of in high school.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:42 PM (jjpZH)

126 114 I probably would've went for 2.Qe6, too.


I just missed Qd7. I *thought* about Rf1 but that would have been much more work ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 19, 2019 06:42 PM (vWMNq)

127 You should peruse any of the anti-Trump twitter threads. Everybody is in a competition to come up with the worst, bad thing they can say about Trump and they just whip each other up into a mindless frenzy of hatred. It's actually kind of scary to watch.

Ya mean when he shot the Invisible Swordsman ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 06:43 PM (arJlL)

128 >>> Me Tarzan

Me furry

Posted by: Beto! at October 19, 2019 06:44 PM (dCRRg)

129 Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 06:36 PM (ZCEU2)

I can understand why you might explode on them. My approach is not for everybody, but I try not to argue too much (After all I was a church goer who voted Dem for years until Obama ran) and just stick in little comments. When my friend said he was upset by Beto wanting to tax churches who don't support the LBGT agenda I said, "Well, I think they all endorse that. They just didn't say it out loud" or "I think you're more of a moderate Democrat" because some still think I vote Democratic. I said to one, "Did you hear Maxine Waters say, "First we're going to impeach Trump and then we'll go after Pence"?
it may be stuff they've never heard before and may get them to think. With one friend whom I really think is a liberal and not a leftist I agree with him when he says "It's a different world now. White men really are being demonized".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 06:45 PM (j0JAA)

130 Trump rally in Tupelo MS is on Friday 11/1.

Kallisto--I hope you are right about the Astros smoking the Yankees. Seems like they should, but...

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 19, 2019 06:46 PM (S+f+m)

131 Hope we get a range report from the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Notorious BFD, double-naught Rooskie asset at October 19, 2019 06:46 PM (EgshT)

132
Prediction, and this one I guarantee:

England's highest court, whatever it's called, will stop Brexit.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 06:47 PM (EdeJT)

133 I love our President. I pray for him and his family every day.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 06:47 PM (Vf4Y7)

134

What's that song that goes tupelo honey?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 06:47 PM (EdeJT)

135 Guess I'll check back in the movie thread to see which classic MP4 has queued up. Last week's mouie thread was really interesting.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 06:47 PM (qYKU9)

136 Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at October 19, 2019 06:47 PM (Vf4Y7)

Great! It heartens me to think that so many people are praying for President Trump and his family daily.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 06:48 PM (j0JAA)

137 ^^^ She was in for the nightlife but stayed for the licker..................

Posted by: saf at October 19, 2019 06:49 PM (5IHGB)

138 Mom and I went into a boutique today and the proprietress had an array of Trump hats and knit caps. We complimented her on her bravery and she laughed. One of her prospective salesgirls for hire flounced off in a hufff saying she could NEVER work in a store that sold such awful stuff. Okaaaaayyy, the sales lady said showing her the door.

The owner is Canadian and she loves Trump and hates socialism.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 19, 2019 06:50 PM (ls8Ac)

139 Fen - Its usually a no politics, and often enough I am the only one not Democrat unless my sister or one cousin is there.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)

140 130. it's just a feeling I have about them, same as I had two years ago.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 06:50 PM (qYKU9)

141 Tupelo Honey lyrics--

You can't stop us on the road to freedom
You can't stop us 'cause our eyes can see
Men with insight, men in granite
Knights in armor intent on chivalry

Amen.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 19, 2019 06:52 PM (S+f+m)

142 A gingerkraut... Very nice!

Go Houston!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 19, 2019 06:53 PM (Tf125)

143 Anton looks like the "It's Pat" of the chessworld.

The chess chicks are far preferable. Brains and looks are a solid combo.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2019 06:53 PM (nFitA)

144 Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 19, 2019 06:50 PM (ls8Ac)

That's good to hear.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2019 06:54 PM (j0JAA)

145 After 2. Rf1, N(d7 would seem to provide quite a challenge for white.

Posted by: civil truth at October 19, 2019 06:55 PM (QMp6w)

146 Maybe Melania should have used the periwinkle belt that came with the dress. I'm a FLOTUS fangirl, so it pains me to say this - She looks like she's wearing a 1940s lampshade.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 06:29

Lol. The Mrs. thought it looked like Japanese inspired upholstery.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 06:56 PM (Dhht7)

147 Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 19, 2019 06:38 PM (ls8Ac)
--------

I suppose someone could start a Bridge Thread.

https://tinyurl.com/y36dfxlb

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:57 PM (Pu/Kw)

148 Correct, next Friday, though it was today for some reason.


Actually, the delayed/bungled Brexit process may have additional value. The perfidy and idiocy of those trying to sabotage things may help purge them from office. Though best way for that is a general election pre-Brexit, which might not happen.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 06:57 PM (QDnY+)

149 Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 19, 2019 06:38 PM (ls8Ac)
--------

I suppose someone could start a Bridge Thread.

https://tinyurl.com/y36dfxlb
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
------

Oh, wait, you said 'young'...
https://tinyurl.com/y23l257t

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:58 PM (Pu/Kw)

150 Melania looks like someone wrapped her in old Christmas paper.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 19, 2019 06:58 PM (lwiT4)

151 "thought" it was today [Trump rally]

Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 06:58 PM (QDnY+)

152 I'm wondering if they are getting rain at the TX MoMe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 06:59 PM (Pu/Kw)

153 Would at best think Eris a chess nerd all you would get

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 07:02 PM (ZCEU2)

154 A busty barmaid



Ja, grosse titten

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 07:03 PM (Um89f)

155 > Me Tarzan

Me furry
Posted by: Beto!

Its the lady prisna !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:03 PM (arJlL)

156 So which R senators beyond Romney, Collins, and Murkowski, will vote to remove PDT and install Pence?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 19, 2019 07:03 PM (4ZE6o)

157 I'm wondering if they are getting rain at the TX MoMe.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


If it's anywhere between Dallas and Galveston, nope. Just checked radar. Not a cloud in the sky.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2019 07:03 PM (W2taJ)

158 Looks like 84 and sunny at the TxMoMe.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 07:05 PM (Dhht7)

159 Kallisto--I hope you are right about the Astros smoking the Yankees. Seems like they should, but...
Posted by: Art Rondelet

You guys are gangin' up on me !

Where's NGU ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:06 PM (arJlL)

160 Hi grammie. How you doing?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 07:06 PM (Dhht7)

161 One of the San Fran sign-tossing viewers spliced the two videos together and put them in sync...

https://twitter.com/hs17dev/status/
1185569796492070913


Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 07:07 PM (Dh1wo)

162 What's that song that goes tupelo honey?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 06:47 PM (EdeJT)


That would be "Tupelo Honey".

By Van Morrison.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 07:08 PM (jjpZH)

163 What's that song that goes tupelo honey?

Elvis was from Tupelo.

It lies on the number line between Onepelo and Threepelo.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:09 PM (arJlL)

164 That blue floral silk dress.

Want.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2019 07:10 PM (i/wJA)

165 143 Anton looks like the "It's Pat" of the chessworld.

The chess chicks are far preferable. Brains and looks are a solid combo.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2019 06:53 PM (nFitA)

I thought trigglypuff for one awful second

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2019 07:11 PM (U7k5w)

166 I thought trigglypuff for one awful second

Posted by: CN[/i/]


pfffffft. Like Trigglypuff could play chess.

Posted by: pep at October 19, 2019 07:15 PM (T6t7i)

167 BTW, how come there's no white king in the first puzzle???

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 07:17 PM (Dh1wo)

168 Only one slash there, pep.

Posted by: Zombie Robert Donner at October 19, 2019 07:19 PM (7s3Gx)

169 167 BTW, how come there's no white king in the first puzzle???
Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 07:17 PM (Dh1wo)


It's on d8.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 07:21 PM (jjpZH)

170 167 the white king is self identifying himself as the black king, OM mentioned he couldn't figure out how he got there but I have had games where I couldn't mate the opposition and chased the king to the other side.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 07:21 PM (ZCEU2)

171 Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


Is 29 too old? I mean, we're all sitting right here!

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 07:24 PM (BEjc7)

172 163 What's that song that goes tupelo honey?

Elvis was from Tupelo.

It lies on the number line between Onepelo and Threepelo.
Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:09 PM (arJlL)

Threepolo Honey, is that what that Star Wars Robot's girlfriend used to call him?

Posted by: Don Q Bot at October 19, 2019 07:26 PM (NgKpN)

173 the white king is self identifying himself as the black king,..
-------

Were it the Queen, it would be termed 'The Dolezal Gambit'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 07:26 PM (Pu/Kw)

174 Well technically Cicero, Moscow was Typhoon, not Barbarossa, but you 1%ers are allowed leeway on such matters.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 19, 2019 06:21 PM (QDnY+)


I'd have to disagree, respectfully. Barbarossa was the overall plan to achieve capitulation of the Soviet Union through, ultimately, the capture of Moscow (if not before). Typhoon was the specific operation to surround and capture Moscow and as such it was certainly a key element of Barbarossa.

The Huns didn't give up on Barbarossa until Typhoon failed. After than, they began improvising, starting with Case Blue in the Spring of '42.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 07:26 PM (XVuno)

175 That video was funny, ok there bored guy how about simultaneous moves, each side plans their move then at same time shows the other person and both move together.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 07:27 PM (ZCEU2)

176 Geez, give us a young chess stud once in a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


Magnus Carlsen's the best I could find:

https://tinyurl.com/y6f9movq

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 07:30 PM (Ki5SV)

177 solutions up.

movie thread will be up in about half an hour.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 07:31 PM (jjpZH)

178 Magnus Carlsen's the best I could find:
https://tinyurl.com/y6f9movq

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 19, 2019 07:30 PM (Ki5SV)


Yep. Slim pickings for the 'ettes, I'm afraid.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 07:32 PM (jjpZH)

179 At first glance I thought it was Rosanne Barr.

Reminds of that Englishwoman who blew Simon Cowell (and all of us) away, Susan Boyle.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 07:33 PM (BEjc7)

180 The white king stole all of my childhood dreams.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:34 PM (EgshT)

181 solutions up.

movie thread will be up in about half an hour.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

So if ya want popcorn or ya hafta pee, do it now.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:35 PM (arJlL)

182 I don't get the hate for an overachieving team from the small market Bronx

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 07:36 PM (GhJCk)

183 Yep. Slim pickings for the 'ettes, I'm afraid.

Slim Pickens was a pretty good actor.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:36 PM (arJlL)

184 ... the white king is self identifying himself as the black king ...

=======


To hereafter be known then as the Shaun King.

Posted by: ShainS at October 19, 2019 07:37 PM (WqPYg)

185 The white king stole all of my childhood dreams.

That honkie !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:37 PM (arJlL)

186 I don't get the hate for an overachieving team from the small market Bronx
Posted by: Ignoramus

I KNOW !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:38 PM (arJlL)

187 Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:34

It's late October and you really should be back at school.

Posted by: Rod Stewart at October 19, 2019 07:38 PM (dCRRg)

188 *feral grimace*

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:38 PM (EgshT)

189 #169 "He" identifies as a white queen??

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 07:39 PM (Dh1wo)

190 Reminds of that Englishwoman who blew Simon Cowell


?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:40 PM (arJlL)

191 I know I keep you amused but I feel I'm being used.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:40 PM (EgshT)

192 182
I don't get the hate for an overachieving team from the small market Bronx

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 07:36 PM (GhJCk)

=======


I've traditionally rooted against the modern Yankees and the Dodgers (my favorite team as a boy in the 60s and 70s) mostly because they tend to shell out the big bucks for the best players, so it's more of a rooting for the underdog thing.

Posted by: ShainS at October 19, 2019 07:40 PM (WqPYg)

193 188 *feral grimace*

Recess is over, Thunderbug, so shoo!

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 07:41 PM (BEjc7)

194 *feral grimace*
Posted by: Greta Thunberg,

Have a coupla Ex-Lax !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:41 PM (arJlL)

195 Why is Ng5 not mate in 1?

Posted by: Greg Q at October 19, 2019 07:41 PM (weiuN)

196 Oh Greta, you couldn't have tried any more!

Posted by: Rod Stewart at October 19, 2019 07:42 PM (dCRRg)

197 191
I know I keep you amused but I feel I'm being used.


Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:40 PM (EgshT)

==========

Heh.


I wish I'd never seen your face ...

Posted by: ShainS at October 19, 2019 07:42 PM (WqPYg)

198 Oh AlGore, I wish I'd never seen your face.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:43 PM (EgshT)

199 195 Why is Ng5 not mate in 1?
Posted by: Greg Q at October 19, 2019 07:41 PM (weiuN)

Qxg5

Posted by: Hillary at October 19, 2019 07:43 PM (wIfek)

200 >>> Why is Ng5 not mate in 1?

** shrugs **

Dunno.

Posted by: Black queen on g1 at October 19, 2019 07:45 PM (dCRRg)

201 movie thread will be up in about half an hour.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

So if ya want popcorn or ya hafta pee, do it now.
Posted by: JT


They won't be holding the blog for anyone.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2019 07:46 PM (W2taJ)

202 Ate too much. Dairy Queen too.

Dammit.

Posted by: jsg at October 19, 2019 07:46 PM (wIfek)

203 'What's that song that goes tupelo honey?'

Louie Louie

Posted by: freaked at October 19, 2019 07:46 PM (Tnijr)

204 'What's that song that goes tupelo honey?'

Thet Tupelo Honey
Stole alla mah money

Everbody said it was a shame
That her mama was a-workin' on a chain gang

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:49 PM (arJlL)

205 Michigan at Penn State. I want James Franklin and Penn State against Saban and Alabama in the Last Game

Franklin coaches young men to play out of their minds and exceed their base physical skills

Saban hones cove for the NFL machine

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 07:50 PM (q1HEj)

206 oh, that was polk salad Annie.

I always get them mixed up.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:50 PM (arJlL)

207 Okay. I thought the queen was the 'icon' with the closed crown; and the king had the pointy, open-top one but I see it's the opposite.

Never mind my "where's the king?" question then.

Bitch.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 07:50 PM (Dh1wo)

208 204
'What's that song that goes tupelo honey?'



Thet Tupelo Honey

Stole alla mah money



Everbody said it was a shame

That her mama was a-workin' on a chain gang


That's the sound of the men working on a chain gaaaa-aang


Posted by: pep at October 19, 2019 07:51 PM (T6t7i)

209 That chess boy is hot.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:51 PM (EgshT)

210 Cogs

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 07:51 PM (q1HEj)

211 Was this the so-called 'Titzkrieg' that's in all the history books?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 06:12 PM (jjpZH)

-----




The
most impressive division in the Wehrmacht was the 38DD Panzer. They
were the big guns the Germans brought out to bring the Allies to their knees

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 07:52 PM (Um89f)

212 >>> That chess boy is hot.

No boys!

Go to your room and practice your scowl.

Posted by: Mrs Thunberg at October 19, 2019 07:53 PM (dCRRg)

213 That's the sound of the men working on a chain gaaaa-aang

By the late, great Sam Cooke.

Who was shot with no pants on whilst chasing a woman.

(Not on The Book Thread , of course)

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:54 PM (arJlL)

214 Go to your room and practice your scowl.

Which one, mama?

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 07:55 PM (EgshT)

215 Sam Cooke is truly one of the greats

One of my favorite albums CDs is his Live at the Harlem Square Club

King Curtis on sax. He also died by homicide

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 07:56 PM (q1HEj)

216 I'm re-watching an episode of House. In a scene at Cuddy's place, there is a Clive Cussler hardcover on the bookshelf.

That seems ... unlikely ...

Posted by: someone's having a larf at October 19, 2019 07:57 PM (860sb)

217 King me.

Posted by: jsg at October 19, 2019 07:57 PM (wIfek)

218 King Curtis on sax. He also died by homicide

I bet he had his pants on.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 07:58 PM (arJlL)

219 #216 Cuddy is used to going down with the ship.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 07:59 PM (Dh1wo)

220 I'm wondering if they are getting rain at the TX MoMe. 
Posted by: Mike Hammer 


If it's anywhere between Dallas and Galveston, nope. Just checked radar. Not a cloud in the sky.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2019 07:03 PM (W2taJ)






Nah. It's been beautiful all day. The grilled goat was good eats.

I understand that he was kind of a jerk, so onto the grill you go!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2019 08:00 PM (jxv7F)

221 Levin just showed a 2011 clip of Steve Croft on 60 mins questioning why the Congress critters (Pelosi) can get away with insider trading when no one else can and sighted the Credit Card legislation. It is time this kind of stuff gets loud and proud and brought to the forefront so liberal idiots can see that this is how the corruptocrats get rich. It is so frustrating that this kind of stuff stays in the background so the average person isn't aware of it. Unless you are listening to Levin, you won't know about it.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 08:00 PM (KSBDE)

222 Oh, 99 bottles of beer on the wall.....


Who puts beer on the wall ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:00 PM (arJlL)

223
Help! Tulsi is stalking me.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at October 19, 2019 08:00 PM (f1Vqw)

224 We're livin' on Tulsi Time.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at October 19, 2019 08:01 PM (EgshT)

225 If it's anywhere between Dallas and Galveston, nope. Just checked radar. Not a cloud in the sky.

"Are the stars out tonite?
I don't know if its cloudy or bright"

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:02 PM (arJlL)

226 Is that the Credit Card Legislation that Papa Joe got passed for MBNA. Where Hunter got a $350k job out of law school

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 08:02 PM (q1HEj)

227
False Alarm. It was just Max Boot. But stay vigilant, my friends.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at October 19, 2019 08:04 PM (f1Vqw)

228 We're livin' on Tulsi Time.
Posted by: Greta Thunberg,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrT0DpvfVI

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:05 PM (arJlL)

229 this is a sad day. the bishop is reassigning our priest.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 08:05 PM (rByfi)

230 Is that the Credit Card Legislation that Papa Joe got passed for MBNA. Where Hunter got a $350k job out of law school
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 08:02 PM (q1HEj)


No wonder that Hunter is such a no account. He's never had do a lick of work.

Also the other night at the Dallas rally, Trump said Hunter "got kicked out of the Navy, like a dog." That cracked me up.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 19, 2019 08:06 PM (aS1PU)

231 Stella - Its a rare congressman or Senator who doesn't come out a lot wealthier coming out of office

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 08:06 PM (ZCEU2)

232 this is a sad day. the bishop is reassigning our priest.

"Thy will be done"

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:07 PM (arJlL)

233
I'm seem to recall a liquor in my parents' stash called CUTTY SARK.

Anyone remember this?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 19, 2019 08:08 PM (EdeJT)

234 I'm seem to recall a liquor in my parents' stash called CUTTY SARK.



Anyone remember this?



Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 19, 2019 08:08 PM (EdeJT)


I don't recall seeing it in your parents' stash

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 08:09 PM (Um89f)

235 I'm seem to recall a liquor in my parents' stash called CUTTY SARK.

Anyone remember this?

Scotch.

I've got a big jug of it.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:09 PM (arJlL)

236

They still make it?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 19, 2019 08:09 PM (EdeJT)

237

As a kid I liked the bottle because it had a ship on it.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 19, 2019 08:10 PM (EdeJT)

238 Play ball!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 08:10 PM (Dh1wo)

239
Play ball!

Posted by: andycanuck



Is this the nood nood?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 19, 2019 08:11 PM (EdeJT)

240 They still make it?
Posted by: soothsayerwing

I dunno

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:11 PM (arJlL)

241 Cutty Stark was one of the fastest clipper ships. They carried high value cargo like tea from China

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 19, 2019 08:12 PM (HNQeO)

242 boy, houston looks very, very determined & focused.

Posted by: mjc at October 19, 2019 08:12 PM (Pg+x7)

243 I'm seem to recall a liquor in my parents' stash called CUTTY SARK.



Anyone remember this?



Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 19, 2019 08:08 PM (EdeJT)

I
believe it is a blended Scotch of disputed quality. Some like it and
some don't. In Goodfellas, Tommy asked Spider for a Cutty and water.
Spider didn't hear him and it did not go well.

i think they do still make it.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:12 PM (n13/j)

244 WE GOT MOVIE SIGN!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 19, 2019 08:12 PM (jjpZH)

245 They still make it?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover

Ya mean my jug is rare ?

Worth MILLIONS ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 08:13 PM (arJlL)

246 Did your bishop ever say, "If you like your parish priest, you can keep your parish priest"??

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 08:13 PM (Dh1wo)

247 No, Sooth. The baseball game just started -- top of the first all ready over.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 08:14 PM (Dh1wo)

248 "already"

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2019 08:15 PM (Dh1wo)

249 Boden's mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern


Thanks for that. Stuff always looks familiar, but I have no patterns to fall back on.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 08:15 PM (gHCnG)

250 Paul Ryan started out years ago and lived in a split level in Racine, WI. Once he had tenure and retired, he had a walled mansion. Now where did he get that? Or how about Harry Reid's net worth of 43 Million. Once they get into congress and do their time, they are eligible for graft. If the Repubs would start a very loud investigation and the press would do their jobs....Oh, right, never mind. So, I feel so good about paying my taxes to these fers. Also amazing that we all know about the sex fund but still no investigation. I put politicians of both parties in the same category as child molesters.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 08:15 PM (KSBDE)

251 As a kid I liked the bottle because it had a ship on it.

Yep. There seems to be a lot of products they advertised the hell of, back in the day, and now they just depend on us to remember them. Riunite is probably around somewhere, too.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 08:17 PM (Ry8mf)

252 I'm no chess expert, but on the easy problem, wouldn't moving the pawn from C4 to C5 be mate in one?

Posted by: TN Deplorable at October 19, 2019 08:19 PM (mgeBd)

253 @252... Knight interposes.

Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2019 08:22 PM (RAfu9)

254 oh, that was polk salad Annie.
-------

Poke Salat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 08:23 PM (Pu/Kw)

255 Riunite is probably around somewhere, too.
Posted by: t-bird
----
White Rain shampoo.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (Pu/Kw)

256 Spinal Tap should have used a tilde above the "n". Less Teutonic, more Hispanic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (XVuno)

257 I want James Franklin and Penn State against Saban and Alabama in the Last Game

I don't think they're deep enough, but yeah, Franklin is good with the kids. He's upbeat and encouraging, whereas the whiny little bitch Harbaugh will be a whiny little bitch tonight if things don't go his way. It tears his team down. He was so good at Stanford. Don't know what happened.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 08:24 PM (aKxkI)

258 that chinese broad looks like a mannequin, doesn't look real. creepy

Posted by: > alan lana < at October 19, 2019 08:25 PM (B+t5k)

259 As a kid I liked the bottle because it had a ship on it.



Yep. There seems to be a lot of products they advertised the hell
of, back in the day, and now they just depend on us to remember them.
Riunite is probably around somewhere, too.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 08:17 PM (Ry8mf)

St. Pauli Girl is still around but the adverts are gone. The tobacco companies do this with cigs. They decide which brands are worth promoting and the rest get no promotion dollars at all. I guess this goes with all brands really. When was the last time there was a commercial for Mallomars or Keebler cheese and peanut butter sandwich crackers?

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 08:27 PM (n13/j)

260 Qxg5
Posted by: Hillary at October 19, 2019 07:43 PM (wIfek)

Duh.

Thank you

Posted by: Greg Q at October 19, 2019 08:29 PM (weiuN)

261 Regarding all the dresses, you gotta have the tits to fill it. Only Melania and the one German blonde satisfy that requirement/

Posted by: JAS at October 19, 2019 09:32 PM (DBGf/)

262 The dress after the stunning Dior, really thin waisted lady in the print, photoshopped, or whatever they called it back then, very noticeable in images from the era. Even in older fashion photos same things done, the ultra thin waist was in but few, with an even close to curvy figure, have waists that small.

Posted by: Fred at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (vNeO/)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

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Good afternoon Morons & Lurkers. Welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Sit. Stay. Enjoy the world of pets!

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A Little of This. A Little of That.


Cute. H/T Tami


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Cute video, Cats In Therapy. H/T Hank Curmudgeon


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Quite the one trick pony doggeh.


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Why do dogs live such a short time? A six year old explains.

The little boy seemed to accept Belker’s transition without any difficulty or confusion. We sat together for a while after Belker’s Death, wondering aloud about the sad fact that dogs’ lives are shorter than human lives. Shane, who had been listening quietly, piped up, ”I know why.”

Startled, we all turned to him. What came out of his mouth next stunned me. I’d never heard a more comforting explanation. It has changed the way I try and live.

He said, ”People are born so that they can learn how to live a good life — like loving everybody all the time and being nice, right?” The six-year-old continued,

”Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don’t have to stay for as long as we do.”


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One hell of a happy ending.

A 14-year-old Fox Terrier was reunited with her owner on Friday after she went missing 12 years ago from Florida and was found Tuesday over 1,000 miles away in Pennsylvania shivering under a shed.

Humane Animal Rescue in Pittsburgh facilitated the reunion of the dog named Duchess with her owner Katheryn Strang.


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MEET THE PETMORONS


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Well, lookee here! Levon the Terrible is a year old. 13 months now actually. He is just a big lovable goof, (large for an English Setter at this age) but has to be the weirdest dog we have ever had. When he awakes in the morning (often too early) he makes a continuous noise like an air raid siren until he is let out of his crate. A couple months back, we made the mistake of leaving him the van with 48 rolls of toilet paper. We hope he grows out of it. Hard to stay mad at this face though. -Thomas

Even when they are terrors, nothing is better than a Setter. OK, I'm biased. What a beautiful trouble maker. Thanks for sharing.


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MisHum,

See if anyone can identify this dog breed.

Eromero

OK, I'll venture a guess. Could it be a Border Collie Kangaroo? So let us know exactly what we have here Eromero.


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Greetings once again,

Our canine overlord, The Countess Etta Hildegaard von Dusseldorf, Ruler of Upper Schnauzernia, was featured several months ago and in the interim, we have further complicated our lives by introducing 'the twins' to the Royal Menagerie.

These two brothers are The Baron Wilhelm Reinhardt von Meowsensturm, Ruler of Middle Felinenbrau (the grey and white short-hair) and The Archduke Johann Heinrich von Schwartzenschnitzel, Ruler of Lower Raubkatzenbruk (the black fur ball).

Neither lacks for attention or love from our daughters and both are infinitely patient with the questionable actions of their Relentlessly Adorable Toddler Subject.

Long may their odoriforous litter box activities bless this kingdom! - Brian

These photos are precious. Every child should have a pet in their life, you have provided in an abundance. Thanks so much for sharing your family with us today.


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Lurker, here, when I post, it’s as “Reine”.

I absolutely love the pet thread, and I’ve sent in photos of my pets. These two belong to my daughter, and they are watching as Le Roi fixes a plate of food. What you see here is pure, unadulterated HOPE that a scrap will come their way. Alas, it was not to be. The light colored pup on the right is Sam, about 9 years old with a few age-related issues creeping in. He’s been with my daughter since her college days and she could not have asked for a more loyal and protective buddy. The black pup on the left is Rosie, a foundling, about a year old. She is a pit bull, and as best we have been able to determine, she was abandoned after having a litter of puppies. We are thankful she seems not to have been used as a bait dog; she is as sweet a dog as it’s possible to be. She had to be treated for an infection and for heartworms, but it’s all behind us now and she is healthy.

So you have a pair of barkkuum cleaners, how adorable!!!! It appears that Sam and Rosie are best buds as well as kitchen supervisors. We are happy to hear that you love the Pet Thread. Thank you.


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Hi Ace:
Recreant here. I've previously shared pictures and described the antics of Saki, our rice wine kitteh. This is Clipper. She and her brother came to our place this past April. Her left ear shows that she was a feral cat who was neutered (hence the name Clipper, duh). A friend who does TNR work and fosters abandoned kittens told us its not unusual for a feral cat to become domesticated, if they're caught while young or if they find a home where they're fed, cuddled and have a warm, dry place to sleep. Every feral cat has an ancestor who was domesticated. Cats are hard wired to be our companions, even though they can be standoffish at times.

The Horde have big hearts and it was quite obvious that you Recreant. Cute kitteh, here's hoping for a long and happy life as a lap cat. Thanks for sharing.


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This is Whiskey. We got him at the rescue society. We were told he was around eighteen months old. He seems to be part chow. He's very affable. He goes nuts, running in circles around the yard -- run, run, run, LEEEEEAAAAP!

He loves his squeaky toys, and he enjoys dropping them at my feet so I'll toss them for him to chase. When he's done with that game, he'll pile them all in one place and guard them. In the photo, he's lying on his hoard: you can see the dragon and part of the goose. He's got a plushy bone, a duck, and an amorphous plushy thing underneath him. He also really enjoys disemboweling the toys. The goose, the duck, and the dragon have long since gone to that squeaky toy heaven...

From long time lurker, Lee Also.


Whisky sure has puppy eyes. He sure seems like a happy puppeh. We don't think that he has enough toys. You probably should get him some more. We appreciate your submission.

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MH -
Mrs. OCiS and I sent to Acadia National Park a couple weekends ago with our Flat-coat Retriever mix Fenway. This was taken around Ship Harbor which is on the southeastern portion of Mount Desert Island. As you can see, she had an opportunity to enjoy the ocean water here. Fenway, even at 9 years old, absolutely loves climbing on rocks and boulders. Wish my knees and ankles did.

For dog lovers out there, Acadia National Park and Bar Harbor are VERY dog friendly. We stayed in a cabin at a campground that allows dogs. Many restaurants in Bar Harbor allow you to eat outside and have your (well behaved) dog at your side. The public shuttles that transport you from campgrounds to inside the park also allow dogs. The lakes and ponds within the national park don't allow dogs to swim in them as they are a public water supply. So off to the beach trails like we did.

There is lots of hiking trails for all abilities. Many many miles of carriage trails which is basically crushed stone roads that are great for bicycling, horseback riding, and walking. The Rockefeller family purchased over 1,000 acres that abuts Acadia National Park. Many trails are cross from one to the other. Best part is the Rockefeller family will allow you to walk your dog off leash on their land. Once you are back on Acadia National Park, you have to leash up.

If any 'rons want more info on Acadia, recommendations for accomodations, etc., feel free to email me at ourcountryisscrewed at the gmail dot com.

Thanks MH for keeping this much anticipated weekend post alive on Ace of Spades.
--Our Country is Screwed

OCIS, I appreciate your kind words. Wow, what a gorgeous setting for Fenway's
photo. Acadia National Park sounds like a beautiful place. And a place you love. Awesome.


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What a great group of PetMorons, Morons & Lurkers. Thanks for taking the time to submit your pet photos and stories. Also the links were great as usual. Keep up the good work.

If you have something to share you can reach us at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Have a great week!!!

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1 Does your wallaby give your cat massages?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 03:02 PM (xG/b0)

2 Nice Pets Ya'll!.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 19, 2019 03:03 PM (Z+IKu)

3 That was unexpected.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 03:03 PM (xG/b0)

4 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 03:06 PM (ZCEU2)

5 Funny stories today
Lurkers, we don't bite just like the furry horde doesn't, pop in and say hi.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 03:09 PM (ZCEU2)

6 Cats are hardwired to be our companions Rulers.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 19, 2019 03:13 PM (EZebt)

7 Loved the dachshund video!

Posted by: Dr Alice at October 19, 2019 03:16 PM (oW/8k)

8 Cats are interesting, to be domesticated they had to break from being solitary hunters to being sociable and be positive towards humans. There are only two locuses of domestication, being Egypt and the near East, though there is some limited admixture in Europe.

Cats are hard to come by in the archeological record, since ill cats tend to wander off and hide to die. and there is not a lot of meat on them for them to be found in middens.

Dogs were routinely sacrificed up through the late Roman times, often being buried under threshholds and new constructions, but cats usually were not. In Egypt they were mummified, but a review of the mummies show that mostly the cats used were early adult stage, which indicates that the cats were raised by the temples specifically for mummifying.
In England during the late medieval and early enlightenment dried cats were placed posed over door frames inside walls, presumably to guard the house against mice and bad spirits and witches. However, outside of that, I have heard zoo-paleontologists say that it is hard to find early cat remains during domestication.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 03:21 PM (xG/b0)

9 Bless all the animals and all the animal-lovers!

Posted by: gp, Kwakwaka'wakw Carver/Artist at October 19, 2019 03:26 PM (mk9aG)

10 Lee Also, that was a really fun read.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2019 03:30 PM (GJ5tO)

11 I have a 9 year old dog. For the first 8.5 years of its life it didn't give a shit about the vacuum. Then about 6 months ago out of the blue it started hating the vacuum with a passion I had not seen before.

And now every time I vacuum, I have to put him away lest he attack the thing.

Who says you can't teach old dogs new tricks?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 19, 2019 03:31 PM (FiUMj)

12 Maybe it's a wallaby instead of a kangaroo?

Posted by: m at October 19, 2019 03:32 PM (GJ5tO)

13 Sign at saw at a local toy store (this may be old and everyone knows about it but first I'd seen it).

____

Thousands of years ago, cats were treated as Gods in Egypt.

And they have not forgotten.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 19, 2019 03:33 PM (FiUMj)

14 And now every time I vacuum, I have to put him away lest he attack the thing.

Who says you can't teach old dogs new tricks?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 19, 2019 03:31 PM (FiUMj)

Did you get a different vacuum?

Odd thing with Ajax, he went vicious when I had a stand up vacuum. Snarling, attaching, etc. However a Roomba, he completely ignores almost to the point of it not existing.

I have two theories:

One, there is a frequency to some vacuum cleaners that drives them crazy that we cannot hear.

Two, it is some weird dominance/protection thing when we are holding/using the vacuum.

Or both, or something else entirely that I am not thinking of.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2019 03:38 PM (ycWCI)

15 >>>Every feral cat has an ancestor who was domesticated.

And every domesticated cat has an ancestor who was feral.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2019 03:39 PM (GJ5tO)

16 Great looking group of moronimals. Thanks for sharing and thank you MisHum for the pet thread.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 03:42 PM (Dhht7)

17 See if anyone can identify this dog breed.

Eromero


A Whippet?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 03:43 PM (Dhht7)

18 OT: good video from Karl at InRangeTV about the China/Hong Kong/NBA/Youtube/Google mess:

https://tinyurl.com/y4efyed8

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2019 03:43 PM (ycWCI)

19 Hey everybody.

Got a recent pet story, but not so lovable. My sister's cat peed my bed yesterday morning. (Thankfully I was not in it at the time.) Yick what a stench. That darn cat!

Of course the cat, Timmy, is denying all responsibility. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 03:43 PM (L2ZTs)

20 Of course the cat, Timmy, is denying all responsibility. :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 03:43 PM (L2ZTs)

It was two Russian hookers. I haz video!

Posted by: Timmy the Cat at October 19, 2019 03:46 PM (QugKX)

21 Does anyone here travel with their dog? What do you do when you want to leave the trailer and go visit a historic site or such where Pooch's antics are frowned on?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 19, 2019 03:47 PM (EXxnH)

22 See if anyone can identify this dog breed.

Eromero

I have no idea!

Posted by: Wally B. at October 19, 2019 03:48 PM (EXxnH)

23 It's raining and Tom Cat won't go outside.
He is one smart kitty.

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2019 03:51 PM (0bwIz)

24 Good Saturday afternoon, horde!

As usual, lovely pets. LOL at leaving a dog unattended with 48 rolls of toilet paper. Would have been fun to see that extravaganza in action!

Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 03:51 PM (OX9vb)

25 16 Great looking group of moronimals. Thanks for sharing and thank you MisHum for the pet thread.
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 03:42 PM (Dhht7)

You're welcome olddog

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 03:52 PM (aA3+G)

26 Dogs display guilt. Cats have no concept of guilt. I like cats.

Posted by: Burger Chef at October 19, 2019 03:52 PM (RuIsu)

27 Our bulldog pups, 8 months old now, have been getting really bad at pulling hard on the leash when walking, and they are big enough that it's hard for me to control them. They are just bad! when taking a walk.

Today, I tried walking them separately while hubby stayed home with the one not walking, and they were like different dogs! Stayed with me, trotted when I let them run, and didn't pull at all.

They must be competitive and trying to outdo each other, get out in front of the other, prove that they can terrorize every cat in every alley, etc. Looks like it will be separate walks from now on.

Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 03:56 PM (OX9vb)

28 Our doggeh had a heyday (many years ago...) with bags of
aluminum cans we'd left on the back porch, LOL!

Backyard was littered from end to end when we got home from w*rk.

Elderly neighbor lady couldn't stifle her laughs as she told of the 'great show' she'd watched that afternoon...

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 03:58 PM (gP/Z3)

29 Has anyone ever had a cat suddenly start making a kind of dry heave/gag motion, but make no noise?

One of my semi ferals is running to her dish to eat, and she'll lick up the liquid, but then she starts making a kind of thrusting motion with her head like she's trying to thrown up. Then she wanders a few steps away from the dish, and the motions continue for a second. She did once bring up a bit of clear saliva looking liquid, like they do when they eat grass.

I'd say it was just a hairball, but there is absolutely no noise and it isn't near that violent, so to say, of a reaction. It's almost as if she has an acid reflux kind of thing where bile might be coming up when she leans in to eat?

Posted by: Velvet glove, iron fist at October 19, 2019 03:59 PM (ISMp4)

30
They must be competitive and trying to outdo each other, get out in front of the other, prove that they can terrorize every cat in every alley, etc. Looks like it will be separate walks from now on.
Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 03:56 PM (OX9vb)


Pinch collar and firm instruction.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 04:00 PM (aA3+G)

31 Eromero's dog is an Australian Roo. Not good for much except for keeping Bunyips at bay.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 19, 2019 04:01 PM (aS1PU)

32 18
OT: good video from Karl at InRangeTV about the China/Hong Kong/NBA/Youtube/Google mess:



https://tinyurl.com/y4efyed8



He's wrong about youtube. He thinks that China is forcing them into this but they are *happy* to comply.


Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:02 PM (vWMNq)

33 It was two Russian hookers. I haz video!
Posted by: Timmy the Cat at October 19, 2019 03:46 PM (QugKX)


Oh, well that explains everything!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:03 PM (L2ZTs)

34 Is pinch collar the same as choke collar? I've been considering getting those for the walks. The firm instruction by itself doesn't seem to be effective.

Of course, according to the chart posted last week, bulldogs are among the least training intelligent (just stubborn, if you ask me--they are smart enough), requiring 80-100 repetitions of a command to learn it. Heh.

Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 04:05 PM (OX9vb)

35 Also, thanks to doggeh, we discovered that the stuffing from *just one* outdoor chair pad will lightly coat approx. 1/4 acre of lawn...

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 04:05 PM (gP/Z3)

36 34
Is pinch collar the same as choke collar?


I don't think so. My daughter the vet tech told me the difference once but I don't remember the details. A web search should tell you.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:07 PM (vWMNq)

37 I have already sent out that cat therapy video to many friends. So funny and I LOVED the social dig of including the pup who is "identifying" as a cat.

Posted by: corn and beans at October 19, 2019 04:07 PM (tkNkP)

38 And now it's time for yet another of qdpsteve's Very Old Jokes.

"Mommy, I can't find my cat anywhere!! Won't you please help me find him??"

"Shut up and eat your stuffed turkey!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:07 PM (L2ZTs)

39 Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 04:05 PM (OX9vb)


no, it's not the same

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:07 PM (rpxSz)

40 To Pinch Or Not To Pinch Collar? Link to CanineJournal.com

https://tinyurl.com/yxj8tcna

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:09 PM (vWMNq)

41 When I'm good , I get the choke collar

I know the diff

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Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:10 PM (rpxSz)

42 Cat observations:

1) If you provide a clean place for the cat to pee in (aka a Litter Box), the cat will pee and poo there rather than another place. Cats peeing in undesired places usually are the result of litter box neglect.
2) Cats will try to barf up if they have a hair ball or other obstruction. They will eat grass (if they have grass) in order to help them do this. Some oily food helps, there are ointments that taste like fish, they can help.

Wonderful pets today, thanks for the thread!

Posted by: navybrat, should not be posting under my circumstances at October 19, 2019 04:10 PM (w7KSn)

43 A pinch collar? What's next, a bail bondsman leash?

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 04:11 PM (Y8PSl)

44 Cats peeing in unwanted places can also indicate urinary tract infection.

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 04:11 PM (gP/Z3)

45 navybrat, agreed about the litter box. My sister admits she needs to empty it more often.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:12 PM (L2ZTs)

46 38 And now it's time for yet another of qdpsteve's Very Old Jokes.


wuts the diff btwn a bowling ball and Talib's schmundie ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:12 PM (rpxSz)

47 JQ, I'll mention that to my sister, thanks.

As for the pinch collar, I believe Hillary tried that for Bill once but after a while the pain made him even MORE sexually excitable... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:13 PM (L2ZTs)

48 34 Is pinch collar the same as choke collar? I've been considering getting those for the walks. The firm instruction by itself doesn't seem to be effective.

Of course, according to the chart posted last week, bulldogs are among the least training intelligent (just stubborn, if you ask me--they are smart enough), requiring 80-100 repetitions of a command to learn it. Heh.
Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 04:05 PM (OX9vb)


Pinch collar is different than a choke collar.
Pinch collars have prongs which humanely let your dog know who is master and subject

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 04:14 PM (aA3+G)

49 REDACTED, one is big, black, round, packed with sawdust, has tiny holes, and the other is a bowling ball.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:15 PM (L2ZTs)

50 Cats are very prone to urinary tract infection.
They prefer to drink running water.
Static water in a bowl, they will drink it only after the UTI infection, and dehydration, possible kidney damage, have occurred.
Buy a drinking fountain with running water for your cats. They will drink more often and have fewer UTI issues.
The downside of the fountain, it make a trickling sound, which means when I hear it, I need to pee.

Posted by: navybrat, should not be posting under my circumstances at October 19, 2019 04:15 PM (w7KSn)

51 84 which the dog will promptly ignore, if they're like mine :-)

Posted by: BigZesty at October 19, 2019 04:15 PM (sLfpq)

52 I have a question for everyone. Our Weimaraner Smokey is 12. That's quite old for a dog but he has been fairly healthy his entire life. We think he has suddenly gone blind. On Tuesday he was acting strangely, running into the couch, walking into doors. Being in the RV he probably has things memorized but he is terrified of going up and down the steps. We help him and my husband will pick him up if he has to. Could this happen suddenly? He seems fine otherwise.

Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 04:16 PM (2GZs0)

53 navybrat, also thanks :-)

In the meantime, I gotta keep my room door closed I guess.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:16 PM (L2ZTs)

54 Pinch collars have prongs which humanely let your dog know who is master and subject
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 04:14 PM (aA3+G)

duh, thank you, I never knew this :O

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:16 PM (rpxSz)

55 oh i guess that was 48 oops

Posted by: BigZesty at October 19, 2019 04:16 PM (sLfpq)

56 49 REDACTED, one is big, black, round, packed with sawdust, has tiny holes, and the other is a bowling ball.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:15 PM (L2ZTs)

missed by this






much

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:17 PM (rpxSz)

57 Cats get a lot of their liquid from food. Too much dry food can lead to UTIs.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 04:17 PM (Y8PSl)

58 I have already sent out that cat therapy video to many friends. So funny and I LOVED the social dig of including the pup who is "identifying" as a cat.

Posted by: corn and beans at October 19, 2019 04:07 PM

Heh. Same here.

Here's an oldie but goodie by the same guy. "Sad Cat Diary." I still watch this couple times a year.

https://youtu.be/PKffm2uI4dk

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 04:17 PM (Dhht7)

59 Of course, according to the chart posted last week, bulldogs are among the least training intelligent (just stubborn, if you ask me--they are smart enough), requiring 80-100 repetitions of a command to learn it. Heh.
Posted by: April at October 19, 2019 04:05 PM (OX9vb)

It has nothing to do with intelligence.

My bichons are whippish smart

obey

NFW

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:19 PM (rpxSz)

60 52 Could this happen suddenly?


I think I've heard of this happening ... some kind of parasite, IIRC (probably not) and maybe temporary?

Did a search on "sudden blindness canine" ... several hits on canine specialist sites. There are quite a few different possibilities.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:19 PM (vWMNq)

61 wuts the diff btwn a bowling ball and Talib's schmundie ?
Posted by: REDACTED

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You can only get three fingers in a bowling ball.

Woof!! (in honor of pet thread)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 04:19 PM (Y4EXg)

62 More advice for litter boxes.
For every cat you own, you should have that number of litter boxes + 1, for instances in which you fall behind on the upkeep.
I have 2 cats, therefore 3 litter boxes.
Nature's Miracle makes good ones made of recycled paper, when they get too rank, just throw them out and replace.

Posted by: navybrat, should not be posting under my circumstances at October 19, 2019 04:19 PM (w7KSn)

63 RickZ, thanks for that

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:19 PM (L2ZTs)

64 navybrat, you're just a font of cat wisdom today :-)
Thanks

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:20 PM (L2ZTs)

65 Did you know litter boxes can also talk?
Evidence: last week's DNC debate

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:20 PM (L2ZTs)

66 wuts the diff btwn a bowling ball and Talib's schmundie ?
Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:12 PM (rpxSz)


drumroll

YOU COULD EAT THE BOWLING BALL IF YOU HAD TO

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:22 PM (rpxSz)

67 REDACTED, even I'm not THAT sick-minded ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:22 PM (L2ZTs)

68 67 REDACTED, even I'm not THAT sick-minded ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:22 PM (L2ZTs)


Iz KK

I'm sick enuff 4 us all

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:23 PM (rpxSz)

69 Sudden blindness in dogs.

SARDS

Detached Retina

Diabetes

Cushings Disease

There are some others.

Too much detail to post here. Some of these are permanent and some temporary. See your vet.

SARDS in particular has sudden onset (a couple of days) and is permanent.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:24 PM (vWMNq)

70 i can really clear a room, huh ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:24 PM (rpxSz)

71 Thanks Enquiring Minds, we have been googling everything we could think of. Our other weim is fine, so I guess a vet appointment is in our future. One of the down sides to traveling in an RV. We have to find a vet. We emailed our vet and she gave us the number of a good one in the area.

Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 04:24 PM (2GZs0)

72 Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:24 PM (vWMNq)

I've had 2 goldens with SAS

why I gave up on them

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:25 PM (rpxSz)

73 wanna another sick joke ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:26 PM (rpxSz)

74 My advice is for indoor cats, of course.
My sister has nothing but outdoor cats, they have miserable and short lives, never see a vet, usually found in flattened form on highways and such. She says "if they come home, I'll feed them for one more day".
My cats live up to 20 years, hers, maybe 2.
We disagree on things.

Posted by: navybrat, should not be posting under my circumstances at October 19, 2019 04:26 PM (w7KSn)

75 wanna another sick joke ?

We've had enough of Hillary this week, thank you very much.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 04:28 PM (pPNCa)

76 I got my first golden in 1961, I was 10

My grand dad gave him to me

When we trucked in produce to the Dallas Farmers Market, I would bring him with

not many peeps knew about goldens then

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:29 PM (rpxSz)

77 And every domesticated cat has an ancestor who was feral the King of the Jungle.

Don't worry. They'll remind you.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 04:29 PM (IMdOQ)

78 looove the pet morons!
so cute!!!


btw, not my pet, but check out this incredibly beautiful horse

https://twitter.com/welcomet0nature/status/
1185331221389336581

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 04:30 PM (G546f)

79 72 I've had 2 goldens with SAS


I rented a room from someone who owned a Golden. Three brain cells: tennis ball, cat, walkies ... one of the other tenants had the cat.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:30 PM (vWMNq)

80 We've had enough of Hillary this week, thank you very much.
Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 04:28 PM (pPNCa)

Cankles is to easy, nevah do

IK, phrasing

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:30 PM (rpxSz)

81 Just like every American believes they'll be a millionaire some day, every cat believes they'll be a lion some day.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:31 PM (L2ZTs)

82 I rented a room from someone who owned a Golden. Three brain cells: tennis ball, cat, walkies ... one of the other tenants had the cat.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:30 PM (vWMNq)

I remember you !!

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:31 PM (rpxSz)

83 btw doggeh will jump on me and KTY if we hug
it's like " group hug!!! "

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 04:32 PM (G546f)

84 SAS is horrible

the dog can seem fine and then 10 secs l8r

BOOM , dead

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:32 PM (rpxSz)

85 83 btw doggeh will jump on me and KTY if we hug
it's like " group hug!!! "
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 04:32 PM (G546f)


Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:33 PM (rpxSz)

86 Kittehs making plays on words:

https://tinyurl.com/y3yjvcdm

(SFW-- it's the Pet Thread, after all)

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 04:35 PM (pPNCa)

87 84
SAS is horrible



Special Air Service took out your dog?

I remember when they cleared the Iranian Embassy in London in 1980. That was impressive.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:35 PM (vWMNq)

88 I would send pics in of my Bichons

but Mrs. REDACTED is in them all

Maybe I can get one clothed

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:36 PM (rpxSz)

89 Story at Babylon Bee: "Hillary accuses sample lady at Costco of being a Russian asset"

Hil LOVES her microwave kielbasa and can't stand when she gets cut off... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 04:38 PM (L2ZTs)

90 Special Air Service took out your dog?

I remember when they cleared the Iranian Embassy in London in 1980. That was impressive.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:35 PM (vWMNq)

You're taking one of the most traumatic moments of my life and making a joke of it

I'm am 1rretrievably crestfallen


JK

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:40 PM (rpxSz)

91 I have a question for everyone. Our Weimaraner Smokey is 12. That's quite old for a dog but he has been fairly healthy his entire life. We think he has suddenly gone blind.
Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 04:16 PM


Our second doggeh went blind. Cushings disease. She also put on a lot of weight and became incontinent. Lived for another 2-3 yrs.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 04:40 PM (Dhht7)

92 90 You're taking one of the most traumatic moments of my life and making a joke of it

I apologise but ...

I couldn't find SAS under canine diseases ... the SAS disambiguation page on Wikipedia is very long but no veterinary references.

Who Dares Wins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kiTysOJCI

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:42 PM (vWMNq)

93 Thomas looks like he might use that trampoline for a quick trip around the neighborhood. Cool Dog.

Love flat coat retrievers. That is one happy Dog by the water.

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Bf3hj)

94 91 I have a question for everyone. Our Weimaraner Smokey is 12. That's quite old for a dog but he has been fairly healthy his entire life. We think he has suddenly gone blind.
Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 04:16 PM

I'm hesitant to tell you this but our golden, Nick, suddenly went blind this summer.

He wasn't well at all

And although he passed

He had a great life, roaming the Berkshire Hills

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:44 PM (rpxSz)

95 Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:42 PM (vWMNq)

sudden aortic syndrome

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:46 PM (rpxSz)

96 Cat in training for Feline League Baseball:

https://tinyurl.com/yxofn28t

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 04:46 PM (pPNCa)

97 Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:42 PM (vWMNq)

Vets are like nurses


Know enuff to be dangerous

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:47 PM (rpxSz)

98 I apologise but ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:42 PM (vWMNq)

dont, IK ur just kidding

ur kewl

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:50 PM (rpxSz)

99 *waves from Texas*

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 04:50 PM (igaOn)

100 Well, I'm going drinking,

C YA L8R

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:51 PM (rpxSz)

101 Is Eromero going to pop in today and let us know what type of puppeh is in his pic or just leave us hanging?

He's at the TxMoMe isn't he.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 04:51 PM (Dhht7)

102 95 sudden aortic syndrome


Thanks. Seems to happen in people too. But it does not appear to be connected with blindness.

All the searches come back with SubAortic Stenosis as the official name; but same initials.


Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:52 PM (vWMNq)

103 99 *waves from Texas*
Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 04:50 PM (igaOn)

native Texan waves back

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:52 PM (rpxSz)

104 Eromero is here.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 04:52 PM (igaOn)

105 Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 19, 2019 04:52 PM (vWMNq)

have a crushing night, my friend

ADDAIWD

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2019 04:53 PM (rpxSz)

106 Cat in training for Feline League Baseball:

https://tinyurl.com/yxofn28t

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 04:46 PM

Don't think baseball is its sport. Pretty good at spiking, though. Maybe should tryout for volleyball league.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 04:54 PM (Dhht7)

107 I'm here, too. (People have been saying that they've never seen me comment.)

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 19, 2019 04:57 PM (UGLi1)

108 I'm not there

Posted by: lin-duh at October 19, 2019 04:58 PM (UUBmN)

109 Eromero is here.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 04:52

Well, if you could let Eromero know that his 'roo looking puppeh is featured today on the Pet Thread. Much appreciated if he would he let us know what type of puppeh it is.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 04:59 PM (Dhht7)

110 Herm Springer prong collar

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 04:59 PM (G546f)

111 I'm not there

Posted by: lin-duh at October 19, 2019 04:58

Sorry to hear that. Did you get son into clinic today? Doing any better?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 05:00 PM (Dhht7)

112 He looks to have strep...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 19, 2019 05:01 PM (UUBmN)

113 He looks to have strep...

No wonder you stayed home from the MoMe. Hope your son gets better ASAP.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 05:04 PM (pPNCa)

114 I'm here, too. (People have been saying that they've never seen me comment.)
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 19, 2019 04:57 PM (UGLi1)

PARTY CRASHER!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 05:05 PM (x8Wzq)

115 Well, if you could let Eromero know that his 'roo looking puppeh is featured today on the Pet Thread. Much appreciated if he would he let us know what type of puppeh it is.
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 04:59 PM (Dhht7)

---

Will do.

Weasel says hi y'all.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 05:07 PM (CNuL3)

116 vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 19, 2019 04:30 PM (G546f)

I went to that link, and there is a John Oliver video that is hilarious. It's all about the evil critter that is president? of Turkmenistan. I laughed my head "almost" off.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 19, 2019 05:07 PM (u5LFV)

117 lin-duh!!!!

I was looking for you yesterday...bummed that you can't be here.

Hope your son gets better ASAP.

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 05:08 PM (igaOn)

118 That sidebar vid of Jagger and Bowie's "Dancing in the Streets" without music is funny as hell!!

Watched it like four times already.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 05:10 PM (x8Wzq)

119 Looked at some GSD puppies the other day. One week old. Made no commitment. $750 seems kind of steep.

Posted by: freaked at October 19, 2019 05:11 PM (Tnijr)

120 I'm bummed too. First TxMoMe I've ever missed.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 19, 2019 05:13 PM (UUBmN)

121 First TxMoMe I've ever missed.

Maybe Ben Had and the other morons can take pics and/or make a short video for you.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 05:15 PM (pPNCa)

122 We're considering a GSD puppy after our old doggeh is gone...

$750? Yikes!

Likely we'll cruise the Shelter and adopt-a-pet events first. Somehow, the best pets have merely *happened along* in our lives.

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 05:16 PM (gP/Z3)

123 All of the pets are adorable. Thank you for sharing them.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at October 19, 2019 05:18 PM (bmdz3)

124 121 First TxMoMe I've ever missed.

Maybe Ben Had and the other morons can take pics and/or make a short video for you.
Posted by: Basement Cat at October 19, 2019 05:15 PM (pPNCa)

---

We can make you a XXX video...

Posted by: SMH at October 19, 2019 05:19 PM (igaOn)

125 Likely we'll cruise the Shelter and adopt-a-pet events first. Somehow, the best pets have merely *happened along* in our lives.

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 05:16 PM (gP/Z3)

--

Pounds are extra depressing these days. I went to a half-dozen or so a few years ago and 90% of the dogs there are pit bulls with questionable upbringing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 19, 2019 05:24 PM (a7+mS)

126 Thanks everyone. Smokey is still dancing for meals and loves the long walks. We'll take him next week to be checked but at 12, we expect anything. He's an amazing dog and has had a wonderful full life with us. And he has enriched our beyond words.

Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 05:26 PM (2GZs0)

127 Moron Robbie, that is so sad about the pitties, isn't it?

Who could be blamed for not wanting to deal with a potentially violent animal?

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 05:32 PM (gP/Z3)

128 Chess Nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 19, 2019 05:35 PM (Dhht7)

129 Late to the party. Dogsitting. Thanks, MisHum. As always, you made my Saturday.

I love every one of these critters...even that thing with the long ears. But the Irish setter takes the cake. Who could possibly look at that face and not smile?

Posted by: creeper at October 19, 2019 06:42 PM (MHz7Y)

130 Time and again I marvel and how many big hearts out there give homes to strays and foundlings. Makes up for the depressing news and politics. Thank you all for doing good works, and thank you Misanthropic Humanitarian for taking the time to put it all together each week. Bless you all.

Posted by: Gadzooks Mike at October 19, 2019 07:13 PM (mAxkE)

131 Oh, I should clarify re: pit bull dogs--

I do not believe the breed is inherently violent!

Rather, that the "questionable upbringing" of those shelter dogs would be off-putting (to me) regarding adoption *from them*, as opposed to adoption from more reputable sources.

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 07:46 PM (gP/Z3)

Saturday Gardening Thread, October 19 [KT]

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Hello, Gardeners, Putterers and those who just like to observe their handiwork! It's getting fall-ish where I am. How about where you are? Today, we've got a few landscapes as we move into fall. There are still a few critters out there, too. Expecting some more fall foliage photos to come in from The Horde. Love the landscape above from Larro. It's from Bar Harbor, Acadia National Park.

Landscapes

This is a photo of a professional landscape, taken by The Invisible Hand during the summer. A Japanese garden. Lovely. We're all pulling for you, by the way.

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This photo is from the backyard of Admirale's Mate. Looks relaxing. The daylilies fit the setting.

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Plant/Insect Identification Challenge

Two vines/scramblers and an insect today. Remember Hank Curmudgeon's excellent Moron's Guide To Identifying Insects last week for the butterfly.

From Le Vieux Garde. Down by the lake, near a fig tree. Photos were taken a while ago. Maybe we can get him to describe the seed heads that developed from the flowers now.

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Monarch Butterflies are going south

Monarchs, 2019

Numbers are rebounding some. Good news. Have you seen any this year?

Other Critters

Weasel sent in this great photo of a Tractor Spider! Notice the color coordination. I asked if the web was nice and orderly. He said,

Yes, but it seemed a lot thicker right under the spider.

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Recognize that spider?

I'm not sure I can recommend a mouse village for the average gardener. But certain mice are kind of cute.

Simon Dell, a wildlife photographer from Sheffield, United Kingdom, was taking pictures of birds in his garden, when he spotted a cute little house mouse standing on the grassy ground. He knew he couldn't miss the opportunity, so he came up with the brightest idea. With the intent of protecting the mouse from neighboring cats, and providing wonderful backdrops for his new subjects, Simon fashioned a house for the small mouse, that he named George. He built him a nice and functional house made from piles of logs, old fruits, and vegetables. It didn't take long for George to notice the lovely house Simon made, and he was more than happy to move there with his fellow mice That Simon named Mildred and Mini. Take a look at Simon's wonderful photographs of George and his little family, while having the time of their lives in their cozy, new home.

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Halloween approaches

Today, a couple more photos of that remarkable corpse flower sent in by Moron Robbie,

Not only smells like a corpse, kind of starts to look like it could accompany a corpse.

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Moron Robbie didn't mention seeing this guy at the botanical garden:

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Got any other garden-related costume ideas?

The Edible Garden

We have been discussing paste tomatoes in the comments. I wish they would think of another name for "paste tomatoes". Anyway, 40 miles north sent in this:

Those San Marzano tomato vines in the picture below have produced a lot of great tomatos. However, those two vines as well as another one were stripped of nearly every leaf by two tomato worms. However, the two caterpillars responsible for all the damage will never become hawk moths. I feel better now.

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Got a tomato recipe to share?

Looking for a vacation idea? You can sign on for tours to go foraging in Sweden. Especially for mushrooms and berries.

The Right of Public Access . . . is a unique principle, dating back to the Middle Ages and protected by law, which allows everyone to roam pretty much anywhere in the countryside (except for private residences, cultivated land or within 70 meters of a house). Whether you fancy kayaking or swimming in a lake, fishing on the coast, camping in a beautiful meadow or foraging in the forest, being at one with nature is positively encouraged. The only caveats? Don't disturb and don't destroy.

"According to the government, only four percent of all berries in Sweden are picked each year," says Marcus Eldh, founder of WildSweden, who often incorporates foraging into his wildlife adventure tours. One of the most abundant - and packed with antioxidants - is the Nordic blueberry (or bilberry), which can be found on low-to-the-ground shrubs that grow everywhere from the roadside to deep in the forest. Another staple of the Swedish diet - and also known for their health benefits - are arctic cloudberries (similar to raspberries but smaller and orange) and lingonberries (often served up alongside meatballs), both of which are ripe for picking during the summer.

Gardens of The Horde

40 Miles North also sent in this lovely photo of a Phoenicia Azalea:

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If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you want to remain a lurker.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 01:03 PM




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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 01:05 PM (ZCEU2)

2 Garden Spider


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argiope_aurantia

Posted by: zmdavid at October 19, 2019 01:09 PM (xqRaG)

3 Went back to dutifully call and see it was done.
Made a fantastic stomboli last night using my hot & sweet peppers, tomato, basil and oregano from the garden, actually sent photos to CBD so we might see them someday if worthy enough.

And working on getting the first leaves into the compost bin so maybe send in something for show and tell here in a couple of days.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 01:09 PM (ZCEU2)

4 Sounds delicious, Skip!

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 01:15 PM (BVQ+1)

5 zmdavid at October 19, 2019 01:09 PM
So the spider is not going to kill Weasel?

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 01:16 PM (BVQ+1)

6 What lovely landscapes, flowers, yards etc. I am making an effort to trim dead branches and take out at least the smaller dead trees in the yard. I'd like to get the large dead elms down but I probably need to hire a pro or else just continue as we have been and hope that they don't take out vehicles or hit the roof when the wind eventually knocks them down.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 01:17 PM (n4y+3)

7 5 zmdavid at October 19, 2019 01:09 PM
So the spider is not going to kill Weasel?
Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 01:16 PM (BVQ+1)
I don't think so. I only responded so fast because I've saw one before and remember looking it up before" I thought it was called an Orange Gerden Spider, but I according to wikipedia its more commonly called a Yellow Garden Spider, which makes more sense as oranges don't grow anywhere around here.

Posted by: zmdavid at October 19, 2019 01:20 PM (xqRaG)

8 As always I like the photos in the thread and this week is no exception. But those mice are adorable and I never pass by adorable after the news of the week. Of course, they aren't in my garden or loose in the house, so I can be charmed.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 01:23 PM (bmdz3)

9 I hate mice. Sure they are cute. They are very destructive when they get inside a building.

Posted by: Ronster at October 19, 2019 01:30 PM (YhCN5)

10 I always make sure my mice are well fed. (D-Con)

Posted by: Ronster at October 19, 2019 01:32 PM (YhCN5)

11 Bilberries (those Swedish blueberries) are supposed to be especially good for your eyes.

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 01:33 PM (BVQ+1)

12 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 01:36 PM (NWiLs)

13 Anybody ever tasted and Arctic Cloudberry?

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 01:37 PM (BVQ+1)

14 The photo in the post reminds me I have to make a note to get San Marzano tomato seeds for the next garden. We used them a few years ago when we grew roma style and they were fabulous. A number never made it to the kitchen or even out of the yard.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 01:37 PM (bmdz3)

15 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 01:37 PM (arJlL)

16 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19
Posted by: Insomniac

Hiya, Mr. Sunshine !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 01:39 PM (arJlL)

17 The figure on the torso of that spider looks sort of alien. I wonder . . . .

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 01:39 PM (BVQ+1)

18 Bilberries (those Swedish blueberries) are supposed to be especially good for your eyes.

Better than contact lenses ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 01:41 PM (arJlL)

19 The figure on the torso of that spider looks sort of alien. I wonder . . . .

Looks like Spiderman........

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 01:47 PM (arJlL)

20 These are fake pictures!! AOC says global climate change has destroyed all life on the earth !!!!

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at October 19, 2019 01:56 PM (qM84C)

21 Does anyone know, or have an opinion about whether blueberries grown in the north are more flavorful?

My grandmother grew up as a Quebec farm girl and she told me they used a lot of blueberries. She continued that while raising a big family in central Mass. I remember how good they were when we visited.

This is from an ancient memory so it might just be nostalgia and there is no one left from her generation or our parent's.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 01:58 PM (bmdz3)

22 Bar Harbor! Wife and I were there in June. Great trip.

Posted by: TrainmanTim at October 19, 2019 02:01 PM (Lcjwg)

23 JTB at October 19, 2019 01:37 PM
There are several strains of San Marzano tomatoes. Make sure you get one that suits your needs.

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 02:02 PM (BVQ+1)

24 JTB at October 19, 2019 01:58 PM
The rabbiteye blueberries that grow in more southerly states are a different species than the ones that grow further north. There has been some breeding work on the rabbiteyes in the last few decades, and I think the hybrids are probably better than most of the wild ones.

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 02:05 PM (BVQ+1)

25 so many swallowtails, idk that one, kinda like Baird's Swallowtail, maybe not quite. Monarchs seem to have gone from here a couple weeks ago ... fall color just starting in the hard maples.

Love the well kept back yard water features ... mice can be cute, but I spent part of the morning trying to seal up their pathways into my base cabinets in the kitchen. They say a hole the width of a pencil can let them get in. Cats and black snakes like them ... field mice feed a lot of animals, so they are useful in the food chain I guess.

cheers to the growers ...

Posted by: illiniwek at October 19, 2019 02:05 PM (Cus5s)

26 9 I hate mice. Sure they are cute. They are very destructive when they get inside a building.

===============

Agreed. Ever seen what they can do to a vehicle's wiring harness? How about when they climb up into a vehicle's inner a/c cabin filter, defecate, breed, and then die there?

Cute, but destructive and nasty little creatures.

Posted by: DC at October 19, 2019 02:06 PM (/TvO8)

27 Of course, JTB, in most of the West, special provisions must be made to grow any blueberries at all.

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 02:06 PM (BVQ+1)

28 DC at October 19, 2019 02:06 PM
We have had recent wiring damage in our truck from a rat or squirrel. Or other rodent. Persistent critter.

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 02:08 PM (BVQ+1)

29 23 and 24 ... KT, Thanks for the information. I'll have to see if we kept any notes about the specific tomato seeds we used. Also, my memory is that the local blueberries my grandmother used weren't large but very flavorful. I though there might be a difference between what she had available and what I get now in the south.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 02:13 PM (bmdz3)

30 Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 02:08 PM (BVQ+1)

Bizarre as it sounds, I actually feed the black snakes under our concrete pad near the driveway chicken eggs. Their presence is benign to us personally but they are deadly to mice and field rat nests.

I have had to repair and clean up so much damage to our vehicles from these critters than I am glad to contract it out for a few chicken eggs a month, hahaha.

Posted by: DC at October 19, 2019 02:14 PM (/TvO8)

31 Funny thing about field mice here is you see 1 and seen them all, they all are mousey brown on top white bellies. In the house it's no prisoners but outside occasionally let one live.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 02:15 PM (ZCEU2)

32 Pretty sure that's an autumn clematis. It can get way out of hand, but it's beautiful.

Posted by: Velvet glove, iron fist at October 19, 2019 02:21 PM (ISMp4)

33 mousey brown on top white bellies


Those are what we call deer mice. They carry the Hantavirus.

Posted by: Ronster at October 19, 2019 02:22 PM (YhCN5)

34 There are several strains of San Marzano tomatoes

"When the swallows come back to San Marzano...."

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 02:23 PM (arJlL)

35 We finally got the very last of the cherry tomatoes a few days ago. I'm kinda glad it's over since the plants look completely used up and I felt guilty they were still trying to produce.

The thyme we didn't pick seemed to die or at least turned brown. We dried a lot of it this year. But moving the old growth aside, we saw fresh plants coming up. Pretty damn tough stuff, apparently.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 02:24 PM (bmdz3)

36 I'm using the bracket fungus zombie make-up
in microbiology class this semester.

I'm telling the nursing students it's real.

Only 4 more weeks until I spring it on them.

I can't wait!

Posted by: retropox at October 19, 2019 02:26 PM (cprte)

37 In the Oregon Cascades there are specific areas that are treaty areas for the tribes to harvest berries.

Otherwise, on public land it is open to harvest, but few people do.
Except the himalaya thickets on the roadsides.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2019 02:28 PM (xG/b0)

38 Ronster: close, but no cigar.

"mousey brown on top white bellies.
Those are what we call deer mice.
They carry the Hantavirus."

Deer mice are colored like that, but they transmit
Lyme Disease through ticks to humans.

Hantavirus is transmitted by urine from
Peromyscus maniculatus, the pinyon mouse.
Also brown-gray over white.

I take off points on the final exam if they mix them up.

you, as a card-carrying Moron, are of course excused

Posted by: retropox at October 19, 2019 02:30 PM (cprte)

39 We had a frost warning in northern Virginia last night. Didn't quite get there but it was close and the dew on the grass was thick. Damn! It felt good after the heat and humidity of this summer. And despite the cool temps, brushing my hand across the latest growth of dill still left a wonderful fragrance.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 02:37 PM (bmdz3)

40 The butterfly is Spicebush Swallowtail.
The white flowers are Autumn Clematis.
The purple flowers are Ironweed.
The thin orange threads among the flowers is Dodder, a parasitic vine that can weaken and/or kill the host plant, if not kept in check. Keep an eye out for it in the springtime and remove it in post and in haste.
What do I win?

Posted by: Equirhodont at October 19, 2019 02:37 PM (+2GwM)

41 Mr. retropox


They can transmit Lyme disease and/or Hantavirus.You are the one that gets no points.

Posted by: Ronster at October 19, 2019 02:42 PM (YhCN5)

42 Yes we have seen a couple Monarchs fluttering about, a welcome sight!

Posted by: jkallisto at October 19, 2019 02:47 PM (my0dy)

43 When we lived in NJ back in the last century, my 2 preschool daughters and I would start scouting the woodsy area behind our house for wild blueberries as soon as it warmed up. We had to get them before the birds could when they ripened. Since we nibbled as we picked, it took awhile to collect enough for baking yummy things. They weren't very big but they certainly were good.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at October 19, 2019 02:47 PM (Hzze0)

44 That wild clematis is invasive here. I've been battling it since the neighbor (now long gone) planted it.
Sun, shade, makes no difference.

Posted by: MarkY at October 19, 2019 02:48 PM (xF990)

45 W seldom have mice in the house and they aren't much of a problem outside. We have well fed hawks and owls in the area. But we've been in the house for 35 years and a couple of times the field mice were everywhere. Maybe they have population explosions every now and then, like lemmings. Once that phase is over, they mostly disappear.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 02:50 PM (bmdz3)

46 3. Skip, if I promise to bring Kat Copeland, can I come to your house for stromboli?

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 02:51 PM (my0dy)

47 46 Would make one for each

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 02:53 PM (ZCEU2)

48 Aww, Skip's a good host!

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2019 02:59 PM (my0dy)

49 The threads are going to be a little slow this weekend. A lot of the usual suspects, umm I meant commenters, are at the Texas MoMe.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2019 03:05 PM (bmdz3)

50 Greetings from the Texas Mome


So sorry y'all can't be here.

Thanks to SMH for letting me use her laptop!

Posted by: LADYL at October 19, 2019 03:07 PM (igaOn)

51 Hope the weather is great in Texas

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 03:15 PM (ZCEU2)

52 Equirhodont at October 19, 2019 02:37 PM
Dodder! Must remove post-haste!

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 03:21 PM (BVQ+1)

53 pets are up

Posted by: m at October 19, 2019 03:36 PM (GJ5tO)

54 That scary-looking mushroom monster is scary.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2019 03:37 PM (GJ5tO)

55 13
Anybody ever tasted and Arctic Cloudberry?

I've had fresh in Finland, also jam and cloudberry liqueur (Lakka). They are less sweet than most Rubus species with a little astringency. Reminded me of a sweeter salmonberry.

Posted by: Hall Dall at October 19, 2019 03:45 PM (q6ffO)

56 Rainy windy & cold here.

Tomatoes peppers and flowers have been cut down & hauled away, except for Autumn Joy sedum which are still in full bloom.

Need to get groceries. Good day for pot roast!

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 03:51 PM (gP/Z3)

57 Hall Dall at October 19, 2019 03:45 PM
Thanks for the cloudberry details. Some people are offering a hybrid commercially. Wonder if it is different?

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 03:55 PM (BVQ+1)

58 Little difference in "freedom to roam" between the different Scandinavian countries. Interesting Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam
It's why I could pick cloudberries in Finland.

Posted by: Hall Dall at October 19, 2019 04:24 PM (TqDdh)

59 Some people are offering a hybrid commercially. Wonder if it is different?

I don't know about taste, but wild type is reportedly tough to grow. I picked them in swamp forest, not too easy to duplicate.

Posted by: Hall Dall at October 19, 2019 04:26 PM (TqDdh)

60 Though tomatoes were poor quality this year I seem to get a few up until the first frost.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 04:57 PM (ZCEU2)

61 From Idaho's Treasure Valley: I would have been here sooner, but we had a power glitch just before noon, then the power went out an hour later, and stayed down for 2 hours. We did have some rain at 8 AM, various wind gusts, and even a short band of sleet, but I don't know what the direct cause of the outage was. I *do* know we only got part of today's project finished - we started making apple pie filling, for canning, from the probably-Jonathans we collected.

The probably-Jonathan tree never has many apples, but this year it has a bunch of reasonably sized ones, that will do well in the peeler-corer gizmo. Husband had prepared a bunch of apples, we were getting all the ingredients and equipment out - and down goes the power. Oh, poo. Well, tomorrow's not booked, so tomorrow it is - we can probably also get started on applesauce, with the smaller Jonathans and some of the Golden Delicious. Once we decide we have enough applesauce, the rest become cider.

Under garden-deconstruction: so far, I've torn out the poblano plants, Roma tomato plants, green bush beans, and basil from raised beds. Some of the paddock's corn stalks have gone to people who wanted porch decorations. (As for me, I bought 2 mid-size/small pumpkins from a local place, and put a bunch of my immature butternut squash next to them - might as well get some use out of the inedible ones.) There's still zucchini plants in a raised bed, plus the tomatoes and green beans in the paddock, to tear out.

It's good we did a bunch of leaf raking yesterday, even if the areas we cleared are covered with leaves again, after all the wind gusts. We shredded crabapple, linden, and some maple leaves, and put that in the leaf compost bin. I raked up 4 bags of Annoying Sycamore leaves, which I had to put on the porch so they didn't get soaked or blow around.

As I sit by the front window, I'm watching leaves blow south down the street - the neighborhood properties seem to share leaves, so you never do know where the leaves you're raking actually originated...

An off-topic item of quirky interest - I was following my husband down a gym hallway this week, when a man nearby calls out "Appleseed!" I was wearing my Project Appleseed T-shirt - so, I stopped to talk with him. Turns out he recognized my husband walking by, and my T-shirt gave him the context. We knew each other from Project Appleseed events in Castro Valley, CA - 700 miles from here, and many years ago! It constantly amazes me how often I meet a fellow Rifleman while wearing Appleseed T-shirts! (I met one in Grand Island, Nebraska, this summer at the 4-H National Shooting Sports Championship.) Has anyone else been to a Project Appleseed event, and are there any other Riflemen here?

Posted by: Pat* at October 19, 2019 05:42 PM (2pX/F)

62 Pat* at October 19, 2019 05:42 PM
Sounds like quite an apple project.

Don't assume that your immature butternuts are all inedible. There may be uses for them, though they won't store too long. I would look into recipes for the more mature Zucchetta Tromboncino type squashes. They are sort of like really long butternuts. One of my friends peeled them and cubed into soup.

I'm a little surprised that you bought pumpkins, but ornamental pumpkins are low on my garden priority list, too.

Posted by: KT at October 19, 2019 06:19 PM (BVQ+1)

63 Sorry I missed the live responses. Love the colorful spider! Also very glad it lives far from me. The little orange webweaver is about as much as I can handle, and wolf spiders scare me.

We had a beautiful day for a change. Fall colors reaching their peak. I prepped for doing the finishing touches aka staining on the shed. Should take a gallon at most.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 19, 2019 07:22 PM (/+bwe)

64 BTW, Equirhodant wins my admiration!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 19, 2019 07:24 PM (/+bwe)

65 Brrr... colder, windier and rainier (rainy-er? haha) than before. So much for raking up more fallen apples today!

Perhaps tomorrow.

And damn it, didn't get the chair cushions in before they got too damp to stow away. Strewn about in an outbuilding until they can be properly bagged and stored...

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 07:53 PM (gP/Z3)

Her Majesty? [KT]

Ship-in-the-Bay.jpg

San Francisco Waterfront, 1851

Time for an Empress? Or Something?

Well, yesterday we learned that Hillary Clinton believes that Donald Trump plans to stay in office forever, that she has secret information that Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein are Russian assets and that ten year olds are responsible for her election loss. For some reason, after I learned all this, Emperor Norton, who reigned for 20 years in San Francisco, popped into my head.

At age 41, three years after losing everything, Norton christened himself Emperor of the United States. When France's Napoleon III invaded Mexico in 1861, Norton added "Protector of Mexico" to his imperial title.

It's been about three years since Hillary lost the Big One. Is it time for a novel new occupation for her?

Emperor Norton's life history at the link above is interesting. The NPR-type progressive posturing is a little annoying, but perhaps Norton IS the ideal symbol of San Francisco in some ways.

Not much is known about Emperor Norton's early life, according to John Lumea, president of the Emperor's Bridge Campaign, which focuses on researching Norton's life and sharing it with the public.

Here's what we do know.

Emperor Norton was born Joshua Abraham Norton in 1818 to Jewish parents in present-day London. At age 2, he moved with his parents to South Africa, where his dad set up a successful ship supplies business.

After some reversals in fortune and after becoming Emperor by simply publishing a declaration in a newspaper, Norton lived an active life in San Francisco:

For lunch, Norton could go to almost any tavern in town and for the price of a drink, no more than 25 cents, get access to a full lunch spread of salmon, roast beef, tomatoes and more.

"He really makes himself part of the life of the city," Lumea says. "He goes to political meetings. He goes to the theater. He goes to the saloons. He makes himself a public presence. He's in the streets."

Could Hillary find a little waterfront somewhere to live a life kind of like this? Maybe with an ankle monitor? The local police could be ordered to salute her when she passed. Perhaps the mayor could order that people call her "your majesty" (or another preferred pronoun), on pain of a large fine. Preferred pronouns are important.

Emperor Norton sometimes sounded more rational than Hillary sounded yesterday. Not always, though.

Many of the "decrees" attributed to Norton I were fakes; written in jest by newspaper editors at the time for amusement, or for political purposes.

Fake news is not new!

Those "decrees" listed here were, we believe, actually issued by Norton.

A few of Norton's decrees:


  • July 16, 1860 - Decree from Norton I dissolved the United States of America.

  • October 1, 1860 - Decree from Norton I barred Congress from meeting in Washington, D.C.

  • August 12. 1869 - Decree from Norton I dissolved and abolished the Democratic and Republican parties because of party strife now existing within

  • December 16, 1869 - Decree by Norton I demanded that Sacramento clean its muddy streets and place gaslights on streets leading to the capitol.

  • March 23, 1872 - Decree by Norton I that a suspension bridge be built as soon as convenient between Oakland Point and Goat Island, and then on to San Francisco.

Best update on Hillary's interview yesterday?

This made the sidebar, too. Can you find a better one?

Evan McMullin believes Hillary. Tulsi Gabbard is working with the Russians.

Light Weekend Reading and Viewing

A few links I have saved from Powerline:

Punctuation

Scott Johnson was prompted to study punctuation when he read, for fun, an essay by Montaigne and learned that the original didn't even have paragraph separations. Here is the secret history of the exclamation point. And part 2.

Seems appropriate to the times. I think some people in Montaigne's day must have had powers of concentration superior to ours. The long sentences common in the 19th century can sometimes be a challenge to me. What would I do without paragraphs?

Climate

A 12-minute video by Tony Heller on junk climate science.

Steven Hayward's Green Weenies from the end of September. Heh.

Steven Hayward also reports that The Economist published a surprisingly good piece on the limitations of computer climate modeling.

Music

Libertango. Improvisation.

We have seen one of these sisters playing before. The other was turning pages.

Hope you have a good weekend!

Yes! this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread!

Serving your mid-day open thread needs!


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1 That guy that invented the wheel. Did we get him drug tested? The "fire" guy too.

Posted by: klaftern at October 19, 2019 11:31 AM (RuIsu)

2 Vote Clinton/Norton 2020......Because 2 crazies are better than one!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 19, 2019 11:31 AM (Z+IKu)

3 If you think Trump will win 40+ states, get some bloodwork done.

It's going to be close, either way.

Posted by: Wut at October 19, 2019 11:33 AM (keBn8)

4 Your Majesty, I present your midmorning liter of Seagram's.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:33 AM (cMzzD)

5 "Time for an Empress? Or Something?"

Don't we already have one of those? She's the one with the emus.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 19, 2019 11:35 AM (M9XOx)

6 >>It's going to be close, either way.

No it won't be.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2019 11:35 AM (ZLI7S)

7 Servants! Lunchtime approaches! Prepare the Imperial Sponge Bath!

Yes, Your Worship, we've removed all their belts and shoelaces after last week. We're also adding Prozac to their food.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:35 AM (cMzzD)

8 Could Hillary find a little waterfront somewhere to live a life kind of like this? Maybe with an ankle monitor? The local police could be ordered to salute her when she passed. Perhaps the mayor could order that people call her "your majesty" (or another preferred pronoun), on pain of a large fine. Preferred pronouns are important.

What's going on in Elba these days?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (jp0Bv)

9 "Armenia Georgia Line" would be easier to pronounce.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (NH9pa)

10 Even though I'm deeply upset about Trump's coarse language, don't bother me making a casual reference to lynching Democrats.

That's
totally different because while tweets are literally a hate crime, it's
common for committed Republicans like ourselves to may references to
hanging our political opponents like you-know-who.

I can say that here because we're sophisticated people, who don't use schoolyard taunts or anything.

I'd love to stick around, but as part of our continuing education my fire team is reading Kafka in the original German.

Posted by: Concerned Rock-Solid GOP Veteran at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (cfSRQ)

11 1 That guy that invented the wheel. Did we get him drug tested? The "fire" guy too.
Posted by: klaftern at October 19, 2019 11:31 AM (RuIsu)

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Them Greek homos stole the wheel from the black Africans.

Posted by: Rev. Al Sharpton at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (ZYB2s)

12 3 If you think Trump will win 40+ states, get some bloodwork done.

It's going to be close, either way.
Posted by: Wut at October 19, 2019 11:33 AM (keBn

I don't think he'll clear 40, but I don't think he'll lose much if any ground, and will probably add 1-3 "surprise" states.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (ySTzA)

13 It is time for Hillary! to answer for her crimes.

Posted by: Zombie Emperor OrangeNorton at October 19, 2019 11:37 AM (EgshT)

14 What's going on in Elba these days?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (jp0Bv)

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Evil was I, ere I saw Elba.

*hic*

HUMA MOAR GIN!!!

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be President of the United States at October 19, 2019 11:38 AM (ZYB2s)

15 The ducks are like fuck it. It's raining. It's cold. I aint flying.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 19, 2019 11:38 AM (5Ezu/)

16 Oh, almost forgot to ritually denounce David French and Bill Kristol who I of course hate as traitors, even though I'm making the same arguments.

The difference is that I totally support Trump, I just want him to act weaker and do what the Swamp says.

Posted by: Concerned Rock-Solid GOP Veteran at October 19, 2019 11:38 AM (cfSRQ)

17 It's going to be an early night.

Posted by: Zombie Emperor OrangeNorton at October 19, 2019 11:39 AM (EgshT)

18
I don't think he'll clear 40, but I don't think he'll lose much if any ground, and will probably add 1-3 "surprise" states.

..

Based on the 16 results, he could conceivably flip NV, NH, ME and MN.

But he also won states by a razor thin margin.

To be consistent we must also say they could flip.

Posted by: Wut at October 19, 2019 11:39 AM (keBn8)

19 I don't think he'll clear 40, but I don't think he'll lose much if any ground, and will probably add 1-3 "surprise" states.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (ySTzA)

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The Dems and Soros will do everything they can to bring the U.S. economy to its knees before the election.

Also, they have Kamala advising them. On being on its knees, I mean.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:40 AM (ZYB2s)

20 Does "Her Majesty" refer to Hillary Clinton or the Queen of Diamonds from Hawaii?

Posted by: FireHorse at October 19, 2019 11:40 AM (NH9pa)

21 I have no idea how close the elections will be. I don't talk to pollsters, if I did I think I'd lie if it was a media/D poll. I would not want them to know how much cheating they needed to do.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 11:41 AM (cDw3P)

22 You know who scares me in the Election? Al Gore. If he jumped in, he could combine all the brain washed Greta von Greenbritchez wannabees, all the Never Trumpers and pull a ton of Democrats with the chance to vote against Trump and to set the 2000 Election right in their eyes. He's got less of the Marxist stank of today's candidates while being oh so swampy for the money people.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:41 AM (jp0Bv)

23 The Tri-Delts stole the wheel from Kappa Alpha Psi?

Posted by: klaftern at October 19, 2019 11:41 AM (RuIsu)

24 "Armenia Georgia Line" would be easier to pronounce.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 19, 2019 11:36 AM (NH9pa)

(thick accent)

"I laid my head on ze vailroad tvack, vaitink on ze old A and G,

But ze goddam tvain it yumped ze tvack, poor, poor pitiful me.."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:41 AM (QugKX)

25 Last time I heard that clip of Hillary accusing Tulsi of being an asset, it just happened to be followed by the ad for the Parkinson's meds that talks about the hallucinations some Parkinson patients suffer. Made me remember all the talk about her having Parkinsons. But then I remembered her Vast Right Wing Conspiracy rantings several years ago. The woman has been nutz for a long time. Thank G-d Jill Stein kept her out of the Oval Office.

Posted by: itsacookbook at October 19, 2019 11:43 AM (yPxXc)

26 Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 19, 2019 11:41 AM (jp0Bv)

He's also old, fat, white and primarily remembered today for 1) losing, 2) being ruthlessly skinned by South Park in the ManBearPig episode and 3) not actually inventing the internet.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:43 AM (cMzzD)

27 Hillary's brain has some open threads.

Posted by: JuJuBee at October 19, 2019 11:43 AM (RqQOX)

28 On the whole Syria kerfuffle. I have the impression that PDT knew the Turks were going to come in regardless of anything that he could have said or done. If he had left the 50 soldiers there and they were attacked by Turkish forces, the outcome would have been bad in a lot of ways.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 19, 2019 11:43 AM (VNmG1)

29 Nice music selection. Love the wooded setting with the birds chirping in the background.

Posted by: Tuna at October 19, 2019 11:43 AM (jm1YL)

30 Maud'dib,

I would take it as a personal favor if you were to kill as many ducks as allowable on this day when the Huskies play the ducks today at noon PST. I always knew you were a good man.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (PkVlr)

31 I wish some conservative psychologists would start doing interviews on Fox diagnosing Hillary, like they've done to Trump.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (hl+Pg)

32 He's also old, fat, white and primarily remembered today for 1) losing, 2) being ruthlessly skinned by South Park in the ManBearPig episode and 3) not

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I'll remind you that the current Dem front runner pretends that she's an Indian.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (ZYB2s)

33 Trump won in 2016 despite being a political novice with no record, with 3 different campaign managers and half the resources Hillary had. He was also up against Obama's intel community as well as several foreign governments.

In 2020 he has a solid record of accomplishment including the best economy in 50 years, record low unemployment across the board, ending overseas wars and an enormous campaign war chest with a field organization that has been under construction since 2018. In Minnesota, he had one part time field staffer in 2016. He already has 20 full time staff in MN and is hiring more. And that's in a state he lost. Trump uses his rallies to not only pump up his supporters but as a very strategic tool to identify voters by state. It's a very sophisticated plan. And he has the power of incumbency behind him.

The Democrats are fielding a team that excites nobody. The DNC is desperately behind in the cash war and hasn't recovered from what Obama and Hillary did to screw it up. And starting very soon the drip drip drip of what they did in 2016 to try and screw Trump and his supporters will start to leak out and it will go right through next election.

Trump is getting ready for a serious schlonging.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)

34 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:41 AM (QugKX)

The only Armenians I know of are the Kardashians and System of a Down. So... No thanks.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (cMzzD)

35 He's also old, fat, white and primarily remembered today for 1) losing, 2) being ruthlessly skinned by South Park in the ManBearPig episode and 3) not actually inventing the internet.
Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:43 AM (cMzzD)

Not to mention to "chakra release" episode.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:45 AM (QugKX)

36 Hillary knows that Jill Stein has to be a RUSSIAN agent because she dropped the Hillary funded recount in three states that Hillary lost... after the recount showed clear cut vote fraud in Michigan.


The worst case was a ballet box with a tally sheet showing 300 votes for Hillary, but only 50 ballets inside. Only a RUSSIAN stooge would stop because of things like that. A real Hillary American would just dredge up a few hundred ballets and make up for it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 19, 2019 11:45 AM (1g7ch)

37 If he had left the 50 soldiers there and they were attacked by Turkish forces, the outcome would have been bad in a lot of ways.

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And the Dems and the media would have pilloried him for it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:45 AM (ZYB2s)

38 HA Alabama. You think there are conservative shrinks? If they exist you think they would pull the BS of diagnosing someone based on media clips?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 11:45 AM (cDw3P)

39 You know, suppose Trump and Gabbard *are* secretly working with the Russians.

If my choice was that or Progressive-driven policy ruin, I'd rather go with Russia.

Not because I like Russia, but because my stance on Progressive crypto-socialism is "anybody but you". And I do mean that. From the entire history of mankind's journey from the swamp to the stars, there have been no worse leaders than the socialists. No policy set, short is a Jim Jones style mass suicide, is more destructive to nations.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 19, 2019 11:45 AM (ySTzA)

40 I'll remind you that the current Dem front runner pretends that she's an Indian.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (ZYB2s)

True. But she has a vagina and hasn't spent the last eighteen years as a punchline.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:46 AM (cMzzD)

41 a lamerick

Over the Hill

Conspiracies can be a bit confusin'.
Mostly they just seem to be amusin',
As when Hillary doth decree,
Plainly, everyone but she
Is puppet of her enemy, the Roossian!

Posted by: mindful webworker - muldoonishly at October 19, 2019 11:46 AM (qBbz7)

42 Goddamn autocucumber.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 19, 2019 11:46 AM (ySTzA)

43 The worst case was a ballet box with a tally sheet showing 300 votes for Hillary, but only 50 ballets inside. Only a RUSSIAN stooge would stop because of things like that. A real Hillary American would just dredge up a few hundred ballets and make up for it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 19, 2019 11:45 AM (1g7ch)



So basically anyone and anything that went against Hillary's campaign is Russian!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 19, 2019 11:46 AM (hl+Pg)

44 I wish some conservative psychologists would start doing interviews on Fox diagnosing Hillary, like they've done to Trump.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (hl+Pg)

Well, it's supposed to be unethical for mental health professionals to "diagnose" public figures not under their care.

Which is why Libs can do it, and the Right cannot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:48 AM (QugKX)

45 This constant barrage of Russian collaboration bullshit is likely giving Putin and his crowd endless hours of laughter. Makes our whole country seem fucking nuts.

Posted by: keena at October 19, 2019 11:48 AM (DJgfe)

46 So basically anyone and anything that went against Hillary's campaign is Russian!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 19, 2019 11:46 AM (hl+Pg)

Beep boop. I am a Russian bot.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:49 AM (cMzzD)

47 Posted by: mindful webworker - muldoonishly at October 19, 2019 11:46 AM (qBbz7)

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Hah! That's good. But if the point is to lure Muldoon back, it's too good.

You'll have to drop your game a bit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:49 AM (ZYB2s)

48 So Hilldog! What ever happened to that old phrase Better Red than Dead?

Posted by: Old Blue at October 19, 2019 11:49 AM (VNmG1)

49 General Mattis's zinger at Trump---" He earned his battle scars at the doctor's office" --might make sense if Trump were all about bombing and invading every country in sight and putting other people's sons and daughter's in harm's way. But he's not. He's quite the opposite.

So Mattis's joke is really stupid.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:49 AM (NFEMn)

50 This constant barrage of Russian collaboration bullshit is likely giving Putin and his crowd endless hours of laughter. Makes our whole country seem fucking nuts.
Posted by: keena at October 19, 2019 11:48 AM (DJgfe)

"Hey Sergei! Did you see who our agents are now?"

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:50 AM (cMzzD)

51
The only Armenians I know of are the Kardashians and System of a Down. So... No thanks.
Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (cMzzD)
And Cher.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 19, 2019 11:50 AM (MwFQu)

52 48 So Hilldog! What ever happened to that old phrase Better Red than Dead?
Posted by: Old Blue at October 19, 2019 11:49 AM (VNmG1)

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You'll never hear that phrase from the lips of a lifetime Goldwater Girl like the Hildabeast.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:51 AM (ZYB2s)

53 Posted by: Fox2! at October 19, 2019 11:50 AM (MwFQu)

I forgot about her. She's not actually Gypsy, is she?

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:51 AM (cMzzD)

54 The only Armenians I know of are the Kardashians and System of a Down. So... No thanks.
Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:44 AM (cMzzD)
And Cher.
Posted by: Fox2! at October 19, 2019 11:50 AM (MwFQu)

I think the lead singer of Korn is one too.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 19, 2019 11:51 AM (ySTzA)

55 I can't believe that as fat and foolish and stupid and delusional Hillary is, she still has such a large and loyal following.

And they talk about Trump's base being a "cult."

Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:52 AM (NFEMn)

56 Fusion Ken is worried.

>>The prosecutor conducting the review, Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, has expressed his intent to interview a number of current and former intelligence officials involved in examining Russia's effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including former CIA Director John Brennan and former director of national intelligence James Clapper, Brennan told NBC News.

>>Durham has also requested to talk to CIA analysts involved in the intelligence assessment of Russia's activities, prompting some of them to hire lawyers, according to three former CIA officials familiar with the matter. And there is tension between the CIA and the Justice Department over what classified documents Durham can examine, two people familiar with the matter said.

>>With Barr's approval, Durham has expanded his staff and the timeframe under scrutiny, according to a law enforcement official directly familiar with the matter. And he is now looking into conduct past Donald Trump's inauguration in January 2017, a Trump administration official said.

https://tinyurl.com/y4fhcdw8

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2019 11:52 AM (ZLI7S)

57 Whew, we live to see another rainy day.

Posted by: The Ducks at October 19, 2019 11:52 AM (EgshT)

58 quack

Posted by: The Ducks at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (EgshT)

59 Two girls, one keyboard

(apologies)

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (i/wJA)

60 Actually, Norton was the emperor of the Royal Flatbush Sewer, Defender of the Realm of the Huck-a-Buck, and faithful disciple of Captain Video. His legacy as reliable defender lives on in the name of a certain anti-virus program.

His charge was Sir Ralph Kramden of the Madison Avenue Transport, Duke of Brooklyn and sire to Alice the Greatest, Duchess of the Moon (Order of the Bangzoom).

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (gAXBD)

61 55 I can't believe that as fat and foolish and stupid and delusional Hillary is, she still has such a large and loyal following.

And they talk about Trump's base being a "cult."
Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:52 AM (NFEMn)

Projection is not just a river on the Peruvia-Kekistan border.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (ySTzA)

62 55 I can't believe that as fat and foolish and stupid and delusional Hillary is, she still has such a large and loyal following.


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You forgot "drunk" and "decrepit." What are you, some crypto Hillary shill?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (ZYB2s)

63 The only Armenians I know of are the Kardashians and System of a Down. So... No thanks.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman
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There was Doctor Death, and the guy that used to coach UNLV basketball. . . .

Posted by: FireHorse at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (NH9pa)

64 So Mattis's joke is really stupid.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:49 AM (NFEMn)

Mattis got taken for a ride by the Theranos bitch. I won't talk smack on his generalship, but his judge of character card is fucking *revoked*.

Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (cMzzD)

65 And Cher.
Posted by: Fox2! at October 19, 2019 11:50 AM (MwFQu)

Mike Connors, actor in Mannix, IIRC. And a guy named J.C. Agajanian, who was very prominent in California hot rod culture, back when California was sane.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (QugKX)

66 There was Doctor Death, and the guy that used to coach UNLV basketball. . . .
Posted by: FireHorse at October 19, 2019 11:53 AM (NH9pa)

And that guy who attempted a hostile take over of Chrysler.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:54 AM (NFEMn)

67 I forgot about her. She's not actually Gypsy, is she?
Posted by: Vanya, Imperial Footman at October 19, 2019 11:51 AM (cMzzD)

Nor Cherokee.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 19, 2019 11:54 AM (MwFQu)

68 How did they get the piano in the woods ?

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2019 11:55 AM (arJlL)

69 I know a lot of Armenians. I have one in my French class here in DC.

I also have a friend who is Azerbajaini. I have to make sure they never visit at the same time.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 19, 2019 11:55 AM (gAXBD)

70 To me it's obvious Hillary is headed to the insane asylum, of course there mostly gone so it's best to lock her up in house and the media needs to let her slip away into history.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)

71 How did they get the piano in the woods ?
Posted by: JT


Damn bears

Posted by: Bruce at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (vd8XM)

72 There have always been a fairly large number of Armenians in my area.

One thing about Armenian-Americans? You'll never find one who is poor.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (NFEMn)

73 Two girls, one keyboard


That's hot.

Posted by: Matt Plauer at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (EgshT)

74 Steven Hayward's Green Weenies from the end of September. Heh.
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Here's the rule: The more strident a public figure (celebrity, politician) is about 'Global Warming', the greater the likelihood that their 'Carbon Footprint' is proportional to their stridency.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (YPJrZ)

75 And they talk about Trump's base being a "cult."

Posted by: JoeF.
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No projection there. [/extreme sarcasm]

Posted by: FireHorse at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (NH9pa)

76 Very cool music selection

Posted by: itsacookbook at October 19, 2019 11:56 AM (yPxXc)

77
And that guy who attempted a hostile take over of Chrysler.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 19, 2019 11:54 AM (NFEMn)

"MEN! I shall lead to to glory on a e