The Most Overrated A-List Actors Of All Time (Or Our Time)?

Obviously it is a deeply personal list, but I can't help putting Meryl Streep right at the top, or damned close to it.

The conventional wisdom is that she is superbly flexible with an incredible range. But everything I recall is the same tired whine and odd mannerisms and awful accents. And I'm being polite and ignoring her breathtaking stupidity and arrogance. Alar anyone?


  • Meryl Streep
  • Al Pacino (post 1980)
  • Annette Bening
  • Mark Ruffalo
  • Ben Stiller

I have seen Bening on film and on stage, and damn! She stinks on stage more than on the big screen. Ruffalo too....he was wooden and almost monotonal on stage, and was clearly the weak link

Pacino is obvious. He is a characature of himself, and has been for 30 years.

Stiller is nails-on-a-chalkboard unpleasant for me. Has he done anything that isn't sophomoric and formulaic?

Oh...we can quibble about the "A-List" part. So in the interest of world peace, we can say A, A-, B+ actors.

PS. Honorable mentions include Gwyneth Paltrow, Leonardo DiCaprio (great in "Blood Diamond"), Nicolas Cage (is he a D-List now?), Marlon Brando, Harrison Ford.

Posted by: CBD at 02:05 PM




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1 Tom Cruise. QED.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:06 PM (T6t7i)

2 Yes yes yes to Al Pacino!

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:06 PM (hutaE)

3 Pacino is really good in Heat. Other than that, though...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at August 18, 2019 02:07 PM (zZbCU)

4 Now I am a self-caricature.

Posted by: Robert DeNiro at August 18, 2019 02:07 PM (dCRRg)

5 all of them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 02:07 PM (SEclx)

6 Stiller was great in Simple Jack!

Posted by: scrood at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (q2+kD)

7 The shark in Sharknado 4. I just didn't get the sense that he believed in his character.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (T6t7i)

8 Tom Cruise impossible to watch without thinking, "hey, I'm watching Tom Cruise".

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (YpRda)

9 Oh and the only thing I can tolerate Nicholas Cage in is Raising Arizona.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (hutaE)

10 Natalie Portman.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (duxRF)

11 Argh... willowed. This one is too good not to repeat.

185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7368429

Lord Mountbottom ... rum sodomy and the lash ... seemed to have fulfilled the second requirement anyhow.

Some creepy pictures of him with Charles.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (vWMNq)

12 I disagree about Leo DeCaprio. Blood Diamond is one of his movies that I saw and thought he did quite well.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (dCRRg)

13 Al Pacino plays Al Pacino in Pacino! The Movie!

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 02:10 PM (RuIsu)

14 Liam Neeson.

Posted by: Some other guy not that other one at August 18, 2019 02:10 PM (EyFCU)

15 Yeah, I'm going to have to go with Nicholas Cage as the most overrated. Man cannot act.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at August 18, 2019 02:10 PM (9DBja)

16 Grind it out. Paciino was an excellent Dutch Uncle in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. There are also lots of uplifting events and characters in Tarantino's latest. Watch the whole thing. The actors, well, lets all get over ourselves.

Posted by: 80's music fan at August 18, 2019 02:10 PM (glGDV)

17 I chuckled that you had put Ben Stiller on an A-list.

Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2019 02:10 PM (ABjxW)

18 Harvey Keitel. Joe Pesci. Jennifer Lawrence. Samuel L. Jackson. Jeff Goldblum. Natalie Portman.

Posted by: orthodoc at August 18, 2019 02:11 PM (Absx4)

19 John Travolta.

Posted by: Some other guy not that other one at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (EyFCU)

20 Tom Cruise doesn't even do a decent job of playing Tom Cruise.

Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (ABjxW)

21 Kirsten Stewart
Hayden Christiensen
Brie Larson

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (ltuaO)

22 Jack Nicholson

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (Dgce0)

23 This may be a unpopular opinion, but I think Katherine Hepburn was very overrated. I enjoyed her movies. They were entertaining, but she didn't have any range, but that may be the fault of what they put her in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (+0VWg)

24 Madonna.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 02:13 PM (sGotD)

25 Deniro, without question. They called him a chameleon in the 70s, and he had some fine roles, but for 30 years he's been a Deniro parody.

Now all he plays is himself as a grumpy old crackpot.

Waste of talent.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 18, 2019 02:13 PM (6/uwW)

26 Who chews the most scenery (after those listed by CBD)? For my (not spending any) money: Will Smith.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:13 PM (Y8PSl)

27 20
Tom Cruise doesn't even do a decent job of playing Tom Cruise.

Posted by: Roy


I disagree. I think he does an excellent job of portraying a mentally weak a**hole.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:13 PM (T6t7i)

28 Ashley Judd is unwatchable and unfortunately still off her meds.

Posted by: mc at August 18, 2019 02:13 PM (l1TIo)

29
I have always said Meryl Streep doesn't portray a character, she portrays Meryl Streep portraying a character.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:14 PM (Wx/+I)

30 I will add Pauly Shore and Adam Sandler. Pauly Shore was so bad i don't think he is invited to anyones movies anymore

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 02:14 PM (flINI)

31 Madonna.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 02:13 PM (sGotD)
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Not sure what Madonna does is considered "acting". She's definitely overrated, though.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at August 18, 2019 02:14 PM (9DBja)

32 Dwayne Johnson is a surprisingly competent actor. No Olivier, but still, better than you would expect.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (T6t7i)

33 Sean Penn

Posted by: Some other guy not that other one at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (EyFCU)

34 gee, i don't even know who mark ruffalo is, what he's been in or looks like.

i don't belong here.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (Pg+x7)

35 Concur on Dwayne Johnson. He's fun.
Concur on Stiller. Horrible.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (yhYmR)

36
Victor Mature was turned down for membership at a country club because he was an actor. "I'm not an actor," Mature replied, "and I have 64 pictures to prove it."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:16 PM (Wx/+I)

37 Alan Alda belongs on the a-list of over rated.

Posted by: Mush not Mash at August 18, 2019 02:16 PM (vqIkG)

38 (...and thank goodness they pulled the plug on will ferrell.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:16 PM (Pg+x7)

39 Julia Roberts

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

40 Stiller was great in Simple Jack!

He wasn't acting.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (lD3vL)

41 Robert Redford

Posted by: Phil Williams at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (rgddY)

42 Julia Roberts - graduate of the Tom Cruise Acting Institute.

Posted by: jd at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (wG3nb)

43
Sorry if I'm a minority of one, but Robin Williams.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (Wx/+I)

44 Oh and the only thing I can tolerate Nicholas Cage in is Raising Arizona.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (hutaE)

I rather liked him in National Treasure.

Posted by: Grannymimi at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (u5LFV)

45 39 Julia Roberts
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

Ha, beat me to it! I was just getting ready to post that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (hutaE)

46 Couldn't tell you too much what else he was in, but I thought Pacino was awesome in Devil's Advocate.

Posted by: Oedipus at August 18, 2019 02:19 PM (N4r5a)

47 The list is too long. You're going to need a bigger blog.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 02:19 PM (aS1PU)

48 Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (Pg+x7)

It's o.k. I don' know who he is either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:19 PM (+0VWg)

49 DeNiro should be on that list. I've only seen him play semi-idiotic Italian criminals.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (l9m7l)

50 How can we leave Ryan Gosling off of the list? Wooden as Charlie McCarthy in First Man.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (EgshT)

51 Matt Damon

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (xPl2J)

52 I recently re-watched Serpico, Started out ok but Pacino became more annoying as the movie progressed, I stopped watching 3/4 into it

Posted by: Creek at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (13BOh)

53 (... i hate stiller.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (Pg+x7)

54 Sorry if I'm a minority of one, but Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (Wx/+I)
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Robin Williams performed more than acted. Jim Carrey was the same way.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (9DBja)

55 Kevin Costner should be at or near top of list

Posted by: Cristobal at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (2j42I)

56 Easy to say which actors are good. Much easier.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (pw+jk)

57 Tom Cruise does pick good movies. I don't mind him.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (aS1PU)

58 Tom Cruise. Harrison Ford. After seeing Ford's lop-sided signature smile the first time, I knew I would get tired of that real fast, and I did.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (9+jnX)

59 I disagree. I think he does an excellent job of portraying a mentally weak a**hole.
Posted by: pep

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Pep, yes, Cruise does come up short.

(HA! I kill me! )

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (Y4EXg)

60
Every softball interview with an actress should ask the question, "Who did you have to sleep with to get your start?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (Wx/+I)

61 55
Kevin Costner should be at or near top of list


He was surprisingly good in The Highwaymen. Maybe he's learned a few tricks in his dotage.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:22 PM (T6t7i)

62 LOL. Brando. I saw Apocalypse Now with my Mom years ago, and spent all of his scenes leaning over and asking "what did he say?" Mom would reply "I don't know, I can't hear him."

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 02:22 PM (AkkRZ)

63 Some actors are only good if they're playing the (actor's name) part. Arguably, that's not really acting at all.

Example: Bruce Willis. He can be entertaining when he's playing the Bruce Willis part. I don't think he'd do well in Hamlet, though.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 02:22 PM (b1Typ)

64 And let's not forget Jar Jar Binks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 18, 2019 02:22 PM (EgshT)

65 Sorry if I'm a minority of one, but Robin Williams. 

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (Wx/+I)

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Agreed. Tried WAY too hard to be liked by everyone. His acting skills have really died the last couple of years.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 02:22 PM (flINI)

66 50 How can we leave Ryan Gosling off of the list? Wooden as Charlie McCarthy in First Man.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 18, 2019 02:20 PM (EgshT)

The only thing I've seen Ryan Gosling in was The Nice Guys with Russell Crowe, which I really liked.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:22 PM (hutaE)

67 This is era of the Coen Bros and Clint Eastwood in film history.

Posted by: Fredo at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (rgddY)

68 Every softball interview with an actress should ask the question, "Who did you have to sleep with to get your start?"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

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Let's not limit the interviewer to actresses only. Would make for an interesting talk.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (Y4EXg)

69 >>> Sean Penn

Another disagreement. As obnoxious as he seems to be in person, he does well on screen.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (dCRRg)

70 Any of the Fondas.*

*pere Henry gets a pass for Cheyenne Social Club and possibly Once Upon a Time in the West as exceptions from the rule of stars basically playing themselves in roles.

Posted by: NeoOtter at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (0x00j)

71 Was The Godfather the last movie in which both Brando and Pacino were good?

I'd say yes.

Not a big fan of Godfather parts II or III.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (b1Typ)

72
LOL. Brando. I saw Apocalypse Now with my Mom years ago, and spent all of his scenes leaning over and asking "what did he say?" Mom would reply "I don't know, I can't hear him."
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon


Well, he was part of the "scratch your ass and mumble" method school of acting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (aKsyK)

73 Every softball interview with an actress should ask the question, "Who did you have to sleep with to get your start?"
__________________

Harvey!

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (k4dH2)

74
Another contrarian view: Alec Baldwin was pretty good in the roles I've seen him in.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (Wx/+I)

75 Natalie Portman.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (duxRF)

Oooh...nice one!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (wYseH)

76 Not a Robin Williams fan either. He always seemed like he was trying too hard, hyper.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (9+jnX)

77 Since most Hollyweird actors are 'woke', I think a better question would be: Who would you part with your hard-earned dollars to see in a film? I have very few in that category. Michael Caine is one but then, he's from an older Hollyweird. Most of the newer actors simply suck donkey dick as they take themselves oh so seriously, being actual parodies of good actors. That's why I agree with the comments about Dwayne Johnson -- he doesn't take himself so seriously.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (Y8PSl)

78 Samuel Jackson is a melanin rich Pacino with his scenery chewing.

Posted by: mc at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (l1TIo)

79 >> >>> Sean Penn

>> Another disagreement. As obnoxious as he seems to be in person, he does well on screen.

Sean Penn is only good when he goes full retard (e.g., Fast Times at Ridgemont High, I Am Sam). In other words, playing the Sean Penn part.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (b1Typ)

80 Brad Pitt !

Posted by: Matt Damon! at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (bUjCl)

81 Johnny Depp.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (l9m7l)

82 The fact that whorrywood hasn't had an original idea in decades doesn't help. I always hated Liza Manelli.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (BLFnH)

83 Any fuckin left winger that runs his mouth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (sw2Uv)

84 Pacino's strength was his reserve, his stillness, in the Godfather and in Serpico. Then he decided to chew all the scenery.

He does not chew the scenery in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. He plays a character, not Al Pacino, who moves the plot along efficiently.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (fuK7c)

85 You'll never see me on this list!

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (EgshT)

86 BEN AFFLECK

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (Rarvo)

87 Who is the miserable troll who parades around in all the Iron Man CGI?

That guy, whomever he is.

Posted by: Lickmuffin at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (m/owh)

88 > Johnny Depp.

Here I've gotta disagree. Depp is a talented, if quirky, actor.

I give him a lot of credit for overcoming the "teen heart throb" niche that has been the end of so many careers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (b1Typ)

89 80
Brad Pitt !

Posted by: Matt Damon!


Disagree entirely. I think Pitt is a very good actor hamstrung by the fact that he was a lady's favorite for so long.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (T6t7i)

90 Any fuckin left winger that runs his mouth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (sw2Uv)

Wouldn't that be all of them?

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (ltuaO)

91 >>> Kevin Costner should be at or near top of list

>>> He was surprisingly good in The Highwaymen.

He was also good in Open Range, but definitely overrated.

Maybe Robert Duval kept him in line.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:27 PM (dCRRg)

92 Nor I!

Posted by: John Wayne at August 18, 2019 02:27 PM (2j42I)

93 Any fuckin left winger that runs his mouth

As someone stated earlier, we're gonna need a much bigger blog.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 18, 2019 02:28 PM (EgshT)

94 Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (Y8PSl)

Mine aren't a-list actors, but I really like Clive Owen, Lennie James, and Peter Stormare.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:28 PM (hutaE)

95 that is the so much of what is wrong with actors now, when you go to a movie you get to see robert deniro doing whoever. were deniro in some production of hamlet it would not be as some angst ridden nordic prince it would be as some angry italian cab driver walking around with danes everywhere saying "are you talking to me" and "can you believe this mohterfucker."

they are less about acting like the character and more about being their sorry self in the charachter's role.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:28 PM (HALdu)

96 Any fuckin left winger that runs his mouth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2019 02:25 PM (sw2Uv)

Wouldn't that be all of them?
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (ltuaO)

My list is long and glorious

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2019 02:28 PM (sw2Uv)

97 ironically actors were better when the studios were in control and the actors knew to do what they were told.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (HALdu)

98 Don't care for Matt Damon. Boston/Irish accent, just, no. Horrible.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (9+jnX)

99 Not a Robin Williams fan either. He always seemed like he was trying too hard, hyper.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:24 PM (9+jnX)


I will say that 'One Hour Photo' was really creepy, and being really creepy was an acting stretch for Williams, to his credit.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (Y8PSl)

100 MATT DAMON's friend from Boston... what's his name... he was in Good Will Hunting and Pearl Harbor...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (flINI)

101 45 39 Julia Roberts
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

Ha, beat me to it! I was just getting ready to post that.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (hutaE)

GMTA. Hers is one of the most inexplicable Hollywood careers I can think of.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (NWiLs)

102 Early Ben Stiller, e.g. The Ben Stiller Show, I'm ok with. Later Ben, it's the same character every time.

As for Brando, his mumbling is so notorious, the Mad satire of The Godfather rode it long and hard.

"Mumble, mumble..."

"What'd he say?"

"Someone one off the kid..."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (7s3Gx)

103 I always like Nicholas Cage and I never like Dustin Hoffman. Not sure I'm a good one to ask about over-ratings.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (DCYln)

104 Tom Cruise plays Tom Cruise mockingly.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (RuIsu)

105 Costner is really good in Yellowstone.

But, speaking of contrarian, I liked Waterworld.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (fuK7c)

106 robin williams was surprisingly effective in dramatic roles. there are a number of comedians who've done well in dramas - jackie gleason and, more recently, adam sandler come to mind.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:31 PM (Pg+x7)

107 Dustin Hoffman

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 18, 2019 02:31 PM (kfxG9)

108 Stiller is nails-on-a-chalkboard unpleasant for me. Has he done anything that isn't sophomoric and formulaic?
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The guy does low brow humor, that is his thing, and frankly he does it pretty well.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:31 PM (WdocV)

109 speaking of actors, guessing that mulan whore is going to wish she had never opened her bat mouth. #boycottmulan

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:31 PM (HALdu)

110 alright alright alright, Matthew mcconaughey

Posted by: NCKate at August 18, 2019 02:31 PM (lknvV)

111 >>> I will say that 'One Hour Photo' was really creepy, and being really creepy was an acting stretch for Williams, to his credit.

I think he played creeps disturbingly well.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:31 PM (dCRRg)

112 Harrison Ford. After seeing Ford's lop-sided signature smile the first time, I knew I would get tired of that real fast, and I did.

I dunno, the guy is an icon in at least three major identities as Han Solo, Indiana Jones and Jack Ryan.

You don't get to be that person with just a lop-sided signature smile.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at August 18, 2019 02:32 PM (lD3vL)

113 Meryl Streep is GREAT. In fact she is the best.

Any time I need help falling asleep I pop in one of her movies and off to la la land I go.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:32 PM (WdocV)

114 This is when I say : "Wait ! Actors and Movie-stars are not one of the same".

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:32 PM (bUjCl)

115 The guy does low brow humor, that is his thing, and frankly he does it pretty well.
Posted by: 18-1 at A




that is like saying the guy runs a lousy restaurant and he is consistently lousy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:32 PM (HALdu)

116 I will say that 'One Hour Photo' was really creepy, and being really creepy was an acting stretch for Williams, to his credit.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (Y8PSl)

+++Okay, I'll give him One Hour Photo, but that's all.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:32 PM (9+jnX)

117 So yeah, Elizabeth Taylor.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:33 PM (bUjCl)

118 Someone beat me to Robert Redford. I loved Jeremiah Johnson but the Canadian Rockies was the star in that one. Beautiful movie.

Bob Redford is overrated.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 18, 2019 02:33 PM (Xwyl/)

119 Reece Witherspoon and Sarah Jessica Parker; absolutely insufferable!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 02:33 PM (a4qVe)

120 i prefer old timey actors. watchin an audie western now.

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 18, 2019 02:33 PM (gOcqq)

121
jackie gleason and, more recently, adam sandler come to mind.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp


Fred MacMurray's best roles were ones he was a creep.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:33 PM (Wx/+I)

122 110
alright alright alright, Matthew mcconaughey

Posted by: NCKate


It's utterly beyond me to figure out what Lincoln was thinking when they made him their spokesman. He sounds like an idiot, scratch that, a drunk idiot.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:34 PM (T6t7i)

123 Disney's Mulan actress, Liu Yifei, supports police brutality and oppression in Hong Kong.
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So let me understand this.


If you say "blue lives matter", complain about Antifa or BLM terrorists killing cops, or point out the FNM is lying about a number of high profile police incidents here in the US, Hollywood will blacklist you.

If you support Tienanmen Square Round 2 though, that is a-ok?


Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (WdocV)

124 I'm here to admit that my thespian talents were...uh...limited. That big dorky lizard wasn't much better, though.

Posted by: Mothra at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (EgshT)

125 Did you McConnaughey haters watch True Detective?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (fuK7c)

126 Bob Redford is overrated.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin'


I dunno. Tell me who does a finer jaw clench, or artfully tousled hair better than Redford.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (T6t7i)

127 Brad Pitt !

Posted by: Matt Damon!
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Disagree entirely. I think Pitt is a very good actor hamstrung by the fact that he was a lady's favorite for so long.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (T6t7i)


I also disagree about Brad Pitt. I enjoyed 'World War Z', 'Fury' and 'Moneyball', the latter being surprisingly understated and good.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (Y8PSl)

128
alright alright alright, Matthew mcconaughey


Go watch Frailty and see if that changes your mind...


Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (WdocV)

129 Kevin Costner is probably overrated but I like him. See Mr. Brooks for a VERY good Costner movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (Xwyl/)

130 Nicholas Cage plays the best Nic Cage in the movies designed to have a Nic Cage in them. Who else would play Nic Cage as well as he does?

Michelle Rodriguez is like that - you wrote a part for a bad-ass Hispanic female - that's her.

Denzel Washington is one of the greatest actors of our time.


Posted by: batterup at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (U2JQS)

131 why the hate for tom cruise, he does movies that fit his style, kind of maverick does pilot, spy. he does no go for maverick does hamlet then inflict it on the world.

not sure about why the nicholas cage hate either, while I am not a fan, he is not that different from any other major actor that does themselves doing a role.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (HALdu)

132 >>> 116 I will say that 'One Hour Photo' was really creepy, and being really creepy was an acting stretch for Williams, to his credit.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (Y8PSl)

+++Okay, I'll give him One Hour Photo, but that's all.

Insomnia, The Secret Agent

Creeps

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (dCRRg)

133 MATT DAMON!

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (WdocV)

134 This may be a unpopular opinion, but I think Katherine Hepburn was very overrated. I enjoyed her movies. They were entertaining, but she didn't have any range, but that may be the fault of what they put her in.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (+0VWg)
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I'm with you, Fen. I always think she comes off as stiff and humorless (even in comedies) and someone I'd not like to be around.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (aXucN)

135 Lord Mountbottom ... rum sodomy and the lash ... seemed to have fulfilled the second requirement anyhow.

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Good Bad Lord!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (+y/Ru)

136 Nicolas Cage has had some good movies like National Treasure I II and some bad movies. His problem is that he spends money like water and has to take the bad scripts just to stay afloat.

As far as God Father I and II those are two of the best movies ever made. God Father III stunk though.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (mpXpK)

137 Mine aren't a-list actors, but I really like Clive Owen, Lennie James, and Peter Stormare.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:28 PM (hutaE)


Agree on all of those, particularly Stormare. I can't tell if he's a versatile actor or just the guy they call when they need to cast "that weird guy" but he blows it away every time. Thoroughly enjoyable.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (t+qrx)

138 It's utterly beyond me to figure out what Lincoln was thinking when they made him their spokesman. He sounds like an idiot, scratch that, a drunk idiot.

He was a marginally better choice than that little girl they gave the Jim Beam commercials to.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (nIvDu)

139 One Hour Photo was good. The others, not so much.

Don't think I've seen a movie in a theater is over 10 yrs.


Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:36 PM (BLFnH)

140 Denzel Washington is one of the greatest actors of our time.

***

Agreed, watch Man on Fire, Training Day, and Flight together to see his range.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (WdocV)

141
Disagree entirely. I think Pitt is a very good actor hamstrung by the fact that he was a lady's favorite for so long.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (T6t7i)
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It's not easy being a favorite of the ladies.

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (MVjcR)

142 Daisy Ridley can't act.
Idris Alba is boring.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (ltuaO)

143 Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (WdocV)

Ohhh I LOVED Frailty.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (hutaE)

144 Stiller? I think he's better than that, especially considering he does so much of the writing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (oVJmc)

145 119 Reece Witherspoon and Sarah Jessica Parker; absolutely insufferable!
Posted by: Cheriebebe

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Weren't SJP and Julia Roberts born at the same stable?

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (Y4EXg)

146 There was a huge pressure from the studio to give the Ironman role to Tom Cruise rather than RDJ. If you want to make the case that Marvel is a mixed bag of people who know and people who don't know what they are doing.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (LxTcq)

147 They are all a bunch of self aggrandizing assholes

and at the top of the heap are Barbara Streisand and George Clooney.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2019 02:37 PM (WysMc)

148 That's the trouble with picking an "overrated actor". They all have at least one movie I really think they did well in.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (a4qVe)

149 I'm here to admit that my thespian talents were...uh...limited. That big dorky lizard wasn't much better, though.
Posted by: Mothra at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (EgshT)


Don't worry big girl, compared to Elliot Gould you're the best.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (aS1PU)

150 Streep is good with accents but she has a range and doesn't do well outside of it.

Pachino is just great. Yes, he's done crap and he's played 'Pachino' instead of a character AND he's done shout-acting way too much...but he's put in really solid work even after 1980. The first half of the Devil's Advocate he was good, he was solid in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, his stage work is stellar, particularly Shakespeare.

The rest of the list, yeah, they're crap.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (xJa6I)

151 Sorry if I'm a minority of one, but Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (Wx/+I)


You're not although Terry Gilliam had the right block and tackle to drag out decent, but still irritating, performances.

The answer is everyone but Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones and Angelica Huston. And Gene Hackman and Danny Glover.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (y7DUB)

152 Aren't we missing some really obvious ones here like Amy Schumer?
Out of fat, slovenly, rude b*tches who play themselves in every role she's not even in the top 10 best.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (WdocV)

153 Bradley Cooper unless he's playing a confident jerk. I watched a clip from A Star is Born and in the crying scene I kept expecting him to peak through his fingers to see if she was buying it. He's good as a cartoon raccoon but then again, confident jerk plus the raccoon has a better range of physical expression of emotions.

Re: Streep - We finally watched The Deer Hunter and it was not bad up until the last scene when Streep starts singing "God Bless America" I just started laughing. It ruined the whole film.

Posted by: BatCracker at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (taXNc)

154 Greg Peck is always a piece of wood that talks. Steve McQueen and Clint Eastwood are scene stealers. Quint (Jaws) is a real actor.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 02:39 PM (OSgHz)

155 why the hate for tom cruise

Because he's Tom Cruise.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:39 PM (T6t7i)

156 Streep is good with accents but she has a range and doesn't do well outside of it.

Pachino is just great. Yes, he's done crap and he's played 'Pachino' instead of a character AND he's done shout-acting way too much...but he's put in really solid work even after 1980. The first half of the Devil's Advocate he was good, he was solid in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, his stage work is stellar, particularly Shakespeare.

The rest of the list, yeah, they're crap.
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no he sucks

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:39 PM (HALdu)

157 I also disagree about Brad Pitt. I enjoyed 'World War Z', 'Fury' and 'Moneyball', the latter being surprisingly understated and good.
Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (Y8PSl)


And in 12 Monkeys.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 02:39 PM (t+qrx)

158 (...and thank goodness they pulled the plug on will ferrell.)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:16 PM (Pg+x7)



Will Farrell pulled the plug on himself with "Holmes and Watson".

Holy Cow, that was bad.


I predict Anchorman 3 soon cuz that's all he's got.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 02:39 PM (SHtRW)

159 George Clooney's best role was special guest on The Facts of Life.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (WdocV)

160 Pretty good list, but then I try to think of actors not over-rated. Jude Law is the only one I can come up with, but I am guessing many will disagree.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (r+sAi)

161 William Macy, Steve Buscemi Bill Paxton are/were some of the finest actors around... IMHO

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (flINI)

162 *pere Henry gets a pass for Cheyenne Social Club and possibly Once Upon a Time in the West as exceptions from the rule of stars basically playing themselves in roles.

Posted by: NeoOtter at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (0x00j)

I have Cheyenne Social Club on a VHS tape. It is so funny. But Fonda's portrayal of Frank in Once Upon a Time... was superb.

Posted by: Grannymimi at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (u5LFV)

163 As for over-rated, there are damn few actors that are any good at acting anymore, at least in front of the camera.

Anne Hathaway has done some good work but I'd call her over-rated.

I don't think anyone's ever rated Scarlett Johansen as a good actress.

Kirsten Stewart is laughably bad and wooden, but she kept getting work because of Twilight.

I find Channing Tatum to be overrated.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (xJa6I)

164 >>> Agreed, watch Man on Fire, Training Day, and Flight together to see his range.

He was great in Flight, which has a 'pin your head to the seat back' opening.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (dCRRg)

165 Not many movies that call for acting these days. Most are superhero hokum.

Most compelling movies in the 21st century are cartoons.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (6/uwW)

166 Very few of the big time actors have a range wider than Taylor Swift's ass. Don't anyone sit there and tell me John Wayne had range, either, he was John Wayne starring John Wayne. They have the niches they're good at and leave the rest.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (hpTWt)

167 Alan Alda belongs on the a-list of over rated.

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That's a bingo!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (+y/Ru)

168 141


Disagree entirely. I think Pitt is a very good actor hamstrung by the fact that he was a lady's favorite for so long.



Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:26 PM (T6t7i)

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It's not easy being a favorite of the ladies.

Posted by: Weasel


I know, but I've persevered, and have overcome.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (T6t7i)

169 Oh, George Clooney....very over-rated. He has a narrower range than Streep.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:40 PM (xJa6I)

170 Tom Cruise plays the best Tom Cruise in Hollywood. And he as some range - look at Tropic Thunder.


But then again watch him in Valkyrie. He is *painfully* out of place among more talented actors.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (WdocV)

171 that fine and all but his offenses are not so severe as those of others. he is like a basketball player, he does one sort of character well and sticks to that guy in different movies.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (HALdu)

172 The Lollipop Guild ensemble was pretty good.

Posted by: Mothra at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (EgshT)

173 I also never liked Henry Fonda. I know a lot do.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (ltuaO)

174 Denzel Washington in The Preachers Wife. It's a fluffy movie but that man is soooo outstanding in it!
I love Denzel!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (a4qVe)

175 With Pacino -

1980 was the year of "Cruising".


So, "Cruising" the beginning of the end or his last good movie?

Your call, morons and ettes!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (SHtRW)

176 129 Kevin Costner is probably overrated but I like him. See Mr. Brooks for a VERY good Costner movie.
Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (Xwyl/)

Costner is the baseball player guy & he does it very well. Haven't really cared for much else he does.
Highwaymen was awful and long and awful

Posted by: batterup at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (U2JQS)

177 Denzel puts me to sleep.

Posted by: nip at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (RXwUQ)

178 Greg Peck is always a piece of wood that talks. Steve McQueen and Clint Eastwood are scene stealers. Quint (Jaws) is a real actor.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 02:39 PM (OSgHz)


Agree, except for Moby Dick.

No riffs, please.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (aS1PU)

179 There is no possible way for the Hong Kong situation to play out that doesn't make China look monstrous deservedly. The Mulan actress and her Disney handlers will regret being "woke" sooner than you think.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (LxTcq)

180
I find Channing Tatum to be overrated.
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I could watch that man all day. Especially topless.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (WdocV)

181 Alan Alda was Ray Donovan's psychiatrist in the last season. It was interesting to see 85 year old Hawkeye.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (fuK7c)

182 Qualified as having gotten over himself:
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Victor Mature was turned down for membership at a country club because he was an actor. "I'm not an actor," Mature replied, "and I have 64 pictures to prove it."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:16 PM (Wx/+I)

Posted by: 80's music fan at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (glGDV)

183 166 Very few of the big time actors have a range wider than Taylor Swift's ass. Don't anyone sit there and tell me John Wayne had range, either, he was John Wayne starring John Wayne. They have the niches they're good at and leave the rest.
Posted by: Vanya

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Case in point: John Wayne in The Conqueror as Genghis Khan

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (Y4EXg)

184 Cary Grant and Kevin Bacon.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (OSgHz)

185 Tom Cruise plays the best Tom Cruise in Hollywood. And he as some range - look at Tropic Thunder.


But then again watch him in Valkyrie. He is *painfully* out of place among more talented actors.


Posted by: 18-1 at A




you should have said "He is *painfully* out of place among more talented actors and unicorns."

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (HALdu)

186 G. Clooney - now THAT is one overrated Hollywood creation.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (bUjCl)

187 And Gene Hackman and Danny Glover.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:38 PM (y7DUB)


No on Danny Glover.

Gene Hackman, however, had 'range'.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (Y8PSl)

188 The only movie Robert Redford ever made that was WAS was Butch Cassady and the Sundance Kid. And Paul Newman carried him through that movie.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (mpXpK)

189 I don't think anyone's ever rated Scarlett Johansen as a good actress.


She's the female Keanu Reeves.

Great at picking scripts that allow her to do "her thing" well.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (SHtRW)

190 More over-rated:
Sarah Jessica Parker
Julia Roberts
Rene Zelweigger or however you spell her last name
Anna Farris

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (xJa6I)

191 Ok nobody is going to like this, but I mostly can't stand Tom Hanks.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (hutaE)

192 Did Annette Benning show her boobs? I seem to remember that, but maybe my memory fails me.
Grifters?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (eAMlh)

193 Paul Giamotti has more range and ability than any other.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (WysMc)

194 I like Brad Pitt, Sean Penn, and Alec Baldwin as actors. It is very hard now, however, to separate them from their politics, so I avoid watching recent movies altogether.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (9+jnX)

195 The Natural gets an honorable mention though.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (mpXpK)

196 i think russell crowe acts fine, but when he tweeted about nobama being a god, he lost me.

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (gOcqq)

197 Denzel puts me to sleep.

Posted by: nip at August 18, 2019 02:41 PM (RXwUQ)

Man On Fire was good, but otherwise...yeah.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (ltuaO)

198 How about something more recent?

Something about Leonardo DiCaprio gives me the impression that I'm watching a BAD high-school play!

Posted by: gastorgrab at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (u6OFe)

199 189 I don't think anyone's ever rated Scarlett Johansen as a good actress.


She's the female Keanu Reeves.

Great at picking scripts that allow her to do "her thing" well.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (SHtRW)

She's good as Black Widow, I'll give her that. But she's worse than Natalie Portman, who can be good enough with the right director handholding her.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (xJa6I)

200 William Macy, Steve Buscemi Bill Paxton are/were some of the finest actors around... IMHO

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John Goodman is good too. He was the best part of The Big Lebowski. Hilarious!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

201 41 Robert Redford
Posted by: Phil Williams at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (rgddY)

This a thousand times over. Jeremiah Johnson was ok and Paul Newman carried him a couple times, but he is pure shit and an ordeal to watch.

Posted by: Living in Amash's District at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (Xo3T0)

202 Did Annette Benning show her boobs? I seem to remember that, but maybe my memory fails me.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (eAMlh)


This is what they call "lighting the Bandersnatch signal".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (t+qrx)

203 Stumbled on to Gran Torino again last weekend. I like that flick.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (BLFnH)

204 191 Ok nobody is going to like this, but I mostly can't stand Tom Hanks.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:43 PM (hutaE)

The way you shoot, nobody is going to argue with you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (xJa6I)

205 Gary Oldman and Alan Rickman both had range, especially Oldman-- Commissioner Gordon, Mr. Zorg and Stansfield ( which was ballistic scenery chewing but whatever).

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (hpTWt)

206 Now Brian Dennehy, that man had range. What am I talking about, he IS a range.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (Y4EXg)

207 152 I think it is assumed that model-actresses, sports star cameo actors and other such hyphinates are going to be bad.

Posted by: Piratepatch at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (taXNc)

208 Something about Leonardo DiCaprio gives me the impression that I'm watching a BAD high-school play!
Posted by: gastorgrab at August 18, 2019 02:44 PM (u6OFe)
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I thought he was good in Catch Me If You Can. But that was quite a while ago.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (aXucN)

209 Did Annette Benning show her boobs? I seem to remember that, but maybe my memory fails me.
Grifters?


Full frontal in Grifters.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (fuK7c)

210 alright alright alright, Matthew mcconaughey

Intersteller ???

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (LPnfS)

211 I've never liked Meryl Streep. She always played Meryl Streep.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (eAMlh)

212 Stumbled on to Gran Torino again last weekend. I like that flick.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (BLFnH)

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that was the last time we went to a theater to watch a movie.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (SEclx)

213 Agreed, watch Man on Fire, Training Day, and Flight together to see his range.
Posted by: 18-1

And A Soldier's Story

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (arJlL)

214 Just a point of order...would it not be easier to simply list the Hollywood mean girls that are NOT progressive fvckwits for the left?

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (VcFUs)

215 especially Oldman-- Commissioner Gordon, Mr. Zorg and Stansfield ( which was ballistic scenery chewing but whatever).

Posted by: Vanya


You forgot Churchill.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (T6t7i)

216 Bridget Fonda, despite coming from dickweed genetic stock, was at least very good in everything she did until she stopped doing movies. Maybe she's the token sane member of the family.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:46 PM (y7DUB)

217 Something about Leonardo DiCaprio gives me the impression that I'm watching a BAD high-school play!



Another overrated one.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (bUjCl)

218 What was the movie with Michael Douglas where he goes ballistic on the freeway?

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (BLFnH)

219 There are so many.

Every actor has some bad movies. Even John Wayne and Clint Eastwood.

But overrated? Jackie Robinson, Sally Fields & Terry-Thomas

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (u82oZ)

220 So we're on to great actors now? One of my favorites is Gary Oldman- can do quite a range of parts. He was even very good in Lost of Space-which was not a good movie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (+0VWg)

221 Was that Darkest Hour? Didn't see it.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (hpTWt)

222 But overrated? Jackie Robinson, Sally Fields & Terry-Thomas
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (u82oZ)
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Now, now. Terry Thomas was perfect in Mad Mad World and I'll not have you knocking that performance. Where's MP4 when I need him???!!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (aXucN)

223 What was the movie with Michael Douglas where he goes ballistic on the freeway?

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (BLFnH)

Falling Down.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (ltuaO)

224 105 Costner is really good in Yellowstone.

But, speaking of contrarian, I liked Waterworld.


Not a big fan of Waterworld, but it did have Jeanne Tripplehorn.......damn she was hot.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (dpJfi)

225 Gary Oldman was excellent in State of Grace, which no one ever references.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (fuK7c)

226 DiCaprio's a lightweight but ok. For some reasons most of his movies are spectacles where the movie sort of happens around him, which may not sound like a compliment but I think it's harder than it looks.

Nick Cage doesn't seem to take himself too seriously. He's not a great actor but he may yet achieve a sort of Shatner-esque cult status someday.

Posted by: GalosGann at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (z6Rh+)

227 160 Pretty good list, but then I try to think of actors not over-rated. Jude Law is the only one I can come up with, but I am guessing many will disagree.
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Viggo Mortensen ?

Posted by: Some other guy not that other one at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (EyFCU)

228 Fen, did you ever see The Fifth Element? I seem to recall that we'd recommended that one to you.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (t+qrx)

229 Very few performers are worth the money, especially mine. I see them as part of the " bread and circuses " mentality described by someone on 5he book thread. I am better off entertaining myself, teaching the grandsons some skills, or learning something new than pretending that the films are somehow important. They're not.

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (U7k5w)

230 125 Did you McConnaughey haters watch True Detective?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:35 PM (fuK7c)

Or Dallas Buyer's Club?

He may be a doped out hick but he CAN act and he can do it well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (xJa6I)

231 @218
Falling Down

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (DB16e)

232 221
Was that Darkest Hour? Didn't see it.

Posted by: Vanya


yes

As to Annette Bening, that brings up Warren Beatty. Brings up, as in an emetic.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (T6t7i)

233 Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 02:48 PM (t+qrx)

No; It slipped my aged mind.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (+0VWg)

234 >>> What was the movie with Michael Douglas where he goes ballistic on the freeway?

Can't. Gravity.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (dCRRg)

235 I like Nicholas Cage.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (YA914)

236 My Top 3

Brendan Gleeson
Paul Giamotti
Tom Wilkinson

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (WysMc)

237
Falling Down.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August


Thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (BLFnH)

238 This entire topic and comments regarding it is a simple case of "De gustibus..."

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (pDYQ0)

239 Quick and the Dead, the Kid vs Herod

https://youtu.be/Q53rpoyfRx8

I think Gene Hackman plays larger or smaller depending on who he is sharing the scene with. When Lance Henrickson or Keith David chew the scenery, he does as well to match them.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (LxTcq)

240 Gary Oldman is excellent in everything he's done.
He almost makes Romeo is Bleeding tolerable.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (xJa6I)

241


Tom Hanks. I don't know who told him he could be a serious actor but they were lying

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (p+3oP)

242 Cop-Hating Mob At Brooklyn Housing Project Injures Three NYPD Officers

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Damn white supremacists and their MAGA hats!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (+y/Ru)

243 I am better off entertaining myself, teaching the grandsons some skills, or learning something new than pretending that the films are somehow important. They're not.


I know how you feel. When I see a thread that doesn't interest me I go somewhere else and do something else.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (fuK7c)

244 This entire topic and comments regarding it is a simple case of "De gustibus..."
Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 18, 2019 02:49 PM (pDYQ0)


De Gusitbus was objectively shit.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (t+qrx)

245 Robert Redford

Posted by: Phil Williams at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (rgddY)


Yes, he has the acting ability of a 2 x 4.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (p+3oP)

246 https://washex.am/2Mov7Gh
*******
Lindsey Graham says Horowitz FISA report will be 'ugly and damning' for DOJ

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (BqBId)

247 What was the movie with Michael Douglas where he goes ballistic on the freeway?

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (BLFnH)


Falling Down.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (Y8PSl)

248 Full frontal in Grifters.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (fuK7c)


Grifters had top of the line performances from Cusack, Huston and Benning. Not exactly an uplifting flick though.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:50 PM (y7DUB)

249 So we're on to great actors now? One of my favorites is Gary Oldman- can do quite a range of parts. He was even very good in Lost of Space-which was not a good movie.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:47 PM (+0VWg)

He is great. So are Christian Bale and Ed Norton.

Kate Beckinsale is pretty good - even outside of the action genre

Posted by: batterup at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (U2JQS)

250 Agree on McConnoughey. .

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (OSgHz)

251 Tom Cruise and Di Caprio are annoying when you see still pictures of them out on the town or partying in the gossip columns, but they come alive on film and are both good actors.

Actors that elevate every film they're in? Denzel, Gary Oldman, Tom Hardy....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (o1fzk)

252 Tom Maverick

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (WDnN1)

253 Tom Cruise. QED.


Cruise may be overrated as a actor but he's a very smart picker of scripts. He basically has two looks, his goofy smiling one and the ability to make his eyes bulge on command. The later servers for both overpowering internal sadness and anger.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (yQpMk)

254 Old one but...I think Mickey Rooney is over-rated. Especially his early, star-making roles.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (xJa6I)

255 Daniel Day-Lewis in "There Will Be Blood" was hands down one of the best performances I've seen.

Posted by: MAGAnanamous at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (LINkS)

256 Tom Hanks. I don't know who told him he could be a serious actor but they were lying


Posted by: TheQuietMan

I know, right? I hate that guy.

Posted by: Peter Scolari at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (T6t7i)

257 193 Paul Giamotti has more range and ability than any other.


He and Laura Linney in John Adams is excellent.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (mFoNl)

258 Dustin Effing Hoffman. Can't stand him.

Posted by: Frank Pembleton at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (X8/eF)

259
What I think about classical musicians should also hold for Hollywood types. The less you know about them as people, the better.

They should be treated as they used to be thought of: barely above the estate servants of one-half step up from common prostitutes. Interchange parts.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (Wx/+I)

260 Andie McDowell is a terrible actress. Just because a person is pretty to look at as a model it doesn't mean that they can act.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (+0VWg)

261 I know, right? I hate that guy.
Posted by: Peter Scolari at August 18, 2019 02:51 PM (T6t7i)

LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (hutaE)

262 Lord Mountbatten

He was aggressively bi-sexual. This is known. But he. really did his best as a father to his two daughters and as an Uncle to Prince Charles

What can I say? A sailor ruined by British schooling. And his wife Edwina was not a help here, after a brief honeymoon for them to star in a Douglas Fairbanks movie in Hollywood. So we can blame Hollywood too.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (u82oZ)

263 Michael Rennie was great in "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (MVjcR)

264 I've never liked Meryl Streep. She always played Meryl Streep.

"Ooh, she's doing an accent! How special is that!" Big friggin' deal.

Maybe she did some good things before she was a star, but after they become a star, the director or somebody makes it obvious they're a star. Sort of like the insufferable Robert Redford and Barbara Streisand. Again, they might have been great before stardom hit. I don't know how Paul Newman avoided that fate.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (Z1eux)

265


Burt Lancaster. There was another block of wood and commie bastard to boot.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (p+3oP)

266 I am really, really f-in sick of Harrison Ford. That is all.

Posted by: West at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (h3Ro8)

267 Cruise ... basically has two looks, his goofy smiling
one and the ability to make his eyes bulge on command. The later
servers for both overpowering internal sadness and anger.

Posted by: Grump928(C)



That's a very good analysis.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (T6t7i)

268 Ok nobody is going to like this, but I mostly can't stand Tom Hanks.
Posted by: Jordan61 at A



you know that was old news here a long time ago, similar to how, bruce springfield sucks. there is a whole list of unspeakable truths here.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (HALdu)

269 Andie McDowell is a terrible actress. Just because a person is pretty to look at as a model it doesn't mean that they can act.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:52 PM (+0VWg)

Agreed. I loved Groundhog Day but she is just dull in everything she does.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (ltuaO)

270 I think Woody Harrelson is a good actor.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (OSgHz)

271 George Clooney kinda sucks.

He's in some good movies, but they aren't good because of his acting, IMO.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 02:53 PM (YA914)

272 I like Gabriel Byrne, but he's probably more in the character actor vein as opposed to A list. And the late Roy Scheider.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (AkkRZ)

273 You know, for over-praised....I might go ahead and nominate John Cusak.

He did some good teen/young adult movies back in the 80's but since then....mostly crap. He was good in Grosse Pointe Blank but that was him playing against type.

He's ok, just over-praised.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (xJa6I)

274 Clancy Brown has to rank as my favorite C list Actor. I would say he has a good range from the Kurgan in Highlander to Mr. Krabs in Spongebob.

Shawshank Redemption wouldn't have been nearly as successful without his presence.

Posted by: theATL at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (yFgwo)

275 I thought DiCaprio was great in The Aviator.

Posted by: cnation at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (DML7G)

276 Ya'll need to see DiCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. May change your mind.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (dUJdY)

277 Moki, Yes

He did John Adams and was 180 degrees off of that in Duets

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (WysMc)

278 Burt Lancaster.


he was the one in From here to eternity ? rolling on the beach ? he made girls swoon , ergo - great actor. like Brad Pitt.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (bUjCl)

279 Ben Stiller is considered a great actor?

*looks at drink*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (ycWCI)

280 he's a very smart picker of scripts. He basically has two looks, his goofy smiling one and the ability to make his eyes bulge on command. The later servers for both overpowering internal sadness and anger.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at A




what he said.

in other words a man's go to know his limitations.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (HALdu)

281
Sorry if I'm a minority of one, but Robin Williams.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (Wx/+I)


Make that two

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (p+3oP)

282
Burt Lancaster. There was another block of wood and commie bastard to boot.



Yep. Caught a bit of a western yesterday and realized I never really cared for him.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (oVJmc)

283 243: I got it, go away C N. I haven't been caught up in this Hollywood shit for decades. One day, I was at a party where people were droning about what characters should or shouldn't have done, and what happened next for them. I blurted out that nothing happened next, the costumes were left behind and they went on to other projects. Too many people get lost in these stories and neglect themselves

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (U7k5w)

284 32 Dwayne Johnson is a surprisingly competent actor. No Olivier, but still, better than you would expect.
Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (T6t7i)

CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN????

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (WDnN1)

285 Might apocrypha, but I heard a story where Eastwood asked Streep before they started shooting Bridges of Madison County "Are you gonna do one of your gawdamn accents?"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (1b0OH)

286 Danny Glover. He's not in much now, but back in his day he was dreadful in a lot of movies.

Posted by: David Gillies at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (tjHrt)

287 i wanted to see McConnaughey actually say "alright" and found a compilation video on youtube of every time he's said "alright" in a movie:

280 times!

and it fits a surprising number of circumstances.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (Pg+x7)

288 To me, Eyes Wide Shut proved that Kidman was a way better actor than Cruise.

Also, they have zero on screen chemistry. If you haven't seen it and want to feel good about your sex life, check it out.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (AkkRZ)

289 Shawshank Redemption wouldn't have been nearly as successful without his presence.
Posted by: theATL at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (yFgwo)

Another unpopular opinion: I think Shawshank is WAY overrated. So much of the dialogue is clunky and cringeworthy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (hutaE)

290 I think Paul Giamatti is under rated

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (O2RFr)

291 Laura Linney was outstanding in You Can Count on Me where Mark Ruffalo played her asshole brother.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (y7DUB)

292 eye update:

Good news! Eye doc checked me out and said it's just the vitreous shrinking. He told me no heavy lifting or head banging for a week. Since we are moving KTY to college tomorrow that means I just get to order them around LOL

I see him in a month; or call if I see a curtain .
I'm so relieved. Thanks for your prayers and advice guys!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (+72t1)

293 Viggo Mortensen is a good actor. Terribly miscast as Aragorn but good in lots of movies.

I loved him in A History of Violence. He had me convinced that he wasn't Joey, until he was.

And William Hurt was good as always.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (yQpMk)

294
Costner, I think, can be great or terrible, never in-between.

My favorites include Jimmy Stewart, Mel Gibson, Hope and Crosby and Kaye, Kate Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, Crowe, and I'll throw Brad Pitt in there. And never forget Bruce Willis, although he'll phone one in here and there.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (r+sAi)

295 "205 Gary Oldman and Alan Rickman both had range, especially Oldman-- "

I like almost and part Oldman plays. Someone's already mentioned the otherwise mediocre Lost In Space movie. His portrayal of Smiley in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy was great.

Posted by: GalosGann at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (z6Rh+)

296 Sorry if I'm a minority of one, but Robin Williams.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:18 PM (Wx/+I)


Make that two
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Three !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (arJlL)

297 Cage is a bit like Micky Rooney or Red Buttons or Ernest Borgnine. Potentially a great actor just prone to going over the top a lot. It becomes a question of script and director. Many good actors make terrible choices of material, and many need strong directors to shape a performance.

But I agree that Streep is uniformly mannered and insufferable.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (H8QX8)

298 Maybe she did some good things before she was a star, but after they become a star, the director or somebody makes it obvious they're a star. Sort of like the insufferable Robert Redford and Barbara Streisand. Again, they might have been great before stardom hit. I don't know how Paul Newman avoided that fate.
Posted by: t-bird at A




"Maybe she did some good things before she was a star"

yes and they were all on the casting couch

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (HALdu)

299 I always liked Brendan Fraser. He was perfect for the Mummy movies. Also funny as hell in Bedazzled.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (1b0OH)

300 #74 The Baldwin part he promised! But never delivered;

Leaving America

Posted by: torabora at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (Y274z)

301
Look at the second-tier supporting actors and actresses from the 30s and 40s and it's amazing how versatile they were.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (Wx/+I)

302 Jeff Bridges and Mel Gibson are never over-rated.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (o1fzk)

303 Clancy Brown has to rank as my favorite C list Actor. I would say he has a good range from the Kurgan in Highlander to Mr. Krabs in Spongebob.

Shawshank Redemption wouldn't have been nearly as successful without his presence.
Posted by: theATL at August 18, 2019 02:54 PM (yFgwo)
******
Clancy Brown was also in Badboys with Sean Penn way way way Back

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (BqBId)

304 Matthew Broderick

Fortunate to be picked for some of the most iconic movies. But his acting always draws me out of the picture. I'm watching an actor acting.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (l6b3d)

305 ''Oh and the only thing I can tolerate Nicholas Cage in is Raising Arizona.''

He was funny as hell in "Moonstruck"'

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (jm1YL)

306 Indy car just had a horrible accident. NBCSN. They all walked away but its sickening to see.

Red flag to clean it up. Little tiny guys with cast iron gonads.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (cknjq)

307 Giamatti is a good character actor. did he not win an Oscar already ? Not that it matters.


Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (bUjCl)

308 Jeremy Irons, but I give him a pass on The Man in the Iron Mask, where he was quite good. The movie also had an honorable mention candidate, Gerard Depardieu.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (OxpGy)

309
He told me no heavy lifting or head banging for a week

Stay in bed. No network news.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (Wx/+I)

310 Better fat actor:

John Candy, John Goodman or Chris Farley?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (YA914)

311 20 Tom Cruise doesn't even do a decent job of playing Tom Cruise.
Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (ABjxW)

"You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you are up in the air, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous."

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (WDnN1)

312 Burt Lancaster is a great actor. Commie bastard or not.
The Sweet Smell of Success
The Swimmer
Seven Days in May
Elmer Gantry
Here to Eternity
Jim Thorpe
The Killers
All the Pirate movies

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (xJa6I)

313 Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (+72t1)

Thanks for the update. Glad it's nothing that has to be taken care of right away-but take it easy-as much as you can in bringing your daughter to school.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (+0VWg)

314 Matt Damon belongs near the top of the list. After watching "Downsizing" is when I fully realized that MKULTRA is probably the only reason anyone even knows his name. It sure isn't the chops.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farm at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (owkQl)

315 291 Laura Linney was outstanding in You Can Count on Me where Mark Ruffalo played her asshole brother.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (y7DUB)

Linney is a good case of actually having range. She was hateful in The Truman Show, but adorable in Frasier (as an example.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (ycWCI)

316 As for some of the young actresses out there, Jennifer Lawrence and Jessica Chastaine are two I find profoundly annoying and devoid of any kind of charm that makes an actor a draw.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (1b0OH)

317 vmom, what great news! Thank you for letting us know. I came into that conversation late but I'm very glad you got it checked out. And now you have official orders to sit in a comfy chair and direct the move-in! You just need a drink with an umbrella in it for full effect.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (aXucN)

318 Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (+72t1)

+++
Great news!

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (9+jnX)

319 310 Better fat actor:

John Candy, John Goodman or Chris Farley?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (YA914)

Going with John Goodman, then Candy, then the cokehead

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (xJa6I)

320 Robin WIlliams was pretty good in One Hour Photo.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (oVJmc)

321 Pacino had a few good ones post-1980 - Scarface (of course), Carlito's Way with Sean penn, and Donnie Brasco come to mind immediately.

Posted by: cnation at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (DML7G)

322 Meryl Streep had a career because she was Fredo's girlfriend

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (U7k5w)

323 Matt Damon

Normally I don't care for him, but he was good in the Martian

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (O2RFr)

324 Another unpopular opinion: I think Shawshank is WAY overrated. So much of the dialogue is clunky and cringeworthy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (hutaE)


I don't know; it hits all the right notes for me. What's not to like about a railroaded man beating the system. See also: The Fugitive.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (y7DUB)

325 Turning off the sock? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (owkQl)

326 316 As for some of the young actresses out there, Jennifer Lawrence and Jessica Chastaine are two I find profoundly annoying and devoid of any kind of charm that makes an actor a draw.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (1b0OH)

Pug is speaking pure truth here.

Though JLaw WAS good in Winter's Bone she's augered her career into the dirt since then.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (xJa6I)

327 Tom Cruise's best role was Grossman in Tropic Thunder. Why? Cuz it took me nearly the whole movie before I figured out it was him.

Brilliant!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (1b0OH)

328 I always liked Brendan Fraser. He was perfect for the Mummy movies. Also funny as hell in Bedazzled.
***

There was some weird story behind what sunk his career - was he the guy who turned down some gay movie exec and got his career destroyed over it?


Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (WdocV)

329 Fat actors? John Goodman is easily the best.
And he's still alive.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (o1fzk)

330 Fuck it, they all suck. Some of the best are probably mostly unknown, because the left always fails up. Shit rises to the top.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (9Om/r)

331 Matt Damon

Normally I don't care for him, but he was good in the Martian



Well cast in Interstellar, I think.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (yQpMk)

332
Pacino had a few good ones post-1980

Glengarry Glen Ross

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (Wx/+I)

333 Great actors?

Cary Grant playing Cary Grant.

Steve Buscemi. He was great in Living in Oblivion. One of these days I'll find a DVD of Death of Stalin.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (u82oZ)

334

I always liked Brendan Fraser. He was perfect for the Mummy movies. Also funny as hell in Bedazzled.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 02:56 PM (1b0OH)



Bedazzled is Dudley Moore, Peter Cook and Raquel Welch as Lust. Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (p+3oP)

335 Humphrey Bogart
Lauren Bacall
John Wayne

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (ycWCI)

336 vmom, what great news! Thank you for letting us know. I came into that conversation late but I'm very glad you got it checked out. And now you have official orders to sit in a comfy chair and direct the move-in! You just need a drink with an umbrella in it for full effect.

Posted by: bluebell

Great advice, there Bluebell !

Now she's gonna poke herself in the eye with the umbrella !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (arJlL)

337 321, Scent of a Woman

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (o1fzk)

338 Matt Damon

Normally I don't care for him, but he was good in the Martian
Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (O2RFr)

Do not disagree. I liked the movie way more than I thought I would.

But I would say his most accurate role was in Team America.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (1b0OH)

339 I also think Julia Roberts is overrated and not a good actress although attractive to look at.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (+0VWg)

340 ruffalo lost me with that cringingly bad Normal Heart grotesquerie he did


no more appetite for Julia Roberts after that one either

Posted by: happyfeet at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (dMWxj)

341 Definitely Goodman best among the fat actors, I just hated him in "O Brother" which was the what he was supposed to bring out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (r+sAi)

342 >>310 Better fat actor: John Candy, John Goodman or Chris Farley?

Goodman has more range. Candy and Farley are funny as hell and better at comedy. But different styles and eras really.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (l6b3d)

343 Sean Connery is aces

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (flINI)

344 If we're going to rate great actors, I'll start with Gene Hackman. Fantastic range, always believable.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (LbKi2)

345 344 If we're going to rate great actors, I'll start with Gene Hackman. Fantastic range, always believable.

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (O2RFr)

346 Lauren Bacall

Posted by: Aetius451AD

Oh, no, no, no! Not Bacall !

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (bUjCl)

347 Now she's gonna poke herself in the eye with the umbrella !
Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (arJlL)
---------

I neglected to mention that for the fullest effect, she will be wearing large oversized sunglasses.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (aXucN)

348 I don't know; it hits all the right notes for me. What's not to like about a railroaded man beating the system. See also: The Fugitive.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 02:59 PM (y7DUB)

Prison rape.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (ycWCI)

349 Bedazzled is Dudley Moore, Peter Cook and Raquel Welch as Lust. Accept no substitutes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (p+3oP)

Never liked Dudley. So, never seen it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (1b0OH)

350 Nose Hoffman, da woirst

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:03 PM (+8+gB)

351 Another unpopular opinion: I think Shawshank is WAY overrated. So much of the dialogue is clunky and cringeworthy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (hutaE)

The poster covering the hole was more animated than the actors. And more entertaining.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 18, 2019 03:03 PM (e1mEI)

352
Jack Lemmon. He was good in The Great Race because it was the most Lemmonesque role imaginable.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 03:03 PM (Wx/+I)

353 Susan Hayward

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2019 03:03 PM (WysMc)

354 344 If we're going to rate great actors, I'll start with Gene Hackman. Fantastic range, always believable.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (LbKi2)

Quick and the Dead is a surprising movie.

Also Lance Henrikson(sp?) in that one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:03 PM (ycWCI)

355 I think people have all kinds of opinions on actors and actresses, and a lot of it boils down to your personal preferences.

But one thing we can all agree on, George Lazenby was the best James Bond.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (YA914)

356 I think it's getting obvious that the Left is trying to get the inner cities hopped up and violent, figuring Trump will get the blame.

I don't think it's going to work.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (o1fzk)

357 Never liked Dudley. So, never seen it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (1b0OH)


He was great in Arthur. Not sure about anything else.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (9Om/r)

358 Now she's gonna poke herself in the eye with the umbrella !
Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (arJlL)

I would totally do that

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (+72t1)

359 Now she's gonna poke herself in the eye with the umbrella !
Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:01 PM (arJlL)
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I neglected to mention that for the fullest effect, she will be wearing large oversized sunglasses.
Posted by: bluebell

Oh, okay.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (arJlL)

360 Giamatti is a good character actor. did he not win an Oscar already ? Not that it matters.


Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 02:57 PM (bUjCl)


No. I thought he had for Sideways but the Academy screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (y7DUB)

361 Bruce Campbell.

Hail to the King, baby.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (adC0H)

362 Burt Lancaster was fantastic in Sweet Smell of Success and Field of Dreams. How's that for range?

Posted by: Regular joe at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (6/uwW)

363 312
Burt Lancaster is a great actor. Commie bastard or not.

The Sweet Smell of Success

The Swimmer

Seven Days in May

Elmer Gantry

Here to Eternity

Jim Thorpe

The Killers

All the Pirate movies

Every time I saw him I always thought 'oh, that's Burt Lancaster playing Burt Lancaster'. Always thought the same with Kris Kristoferson.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (LbKi2)

364 All right, gonna make some cookies.

BBL on the gun thread.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (xJa6I)

365 I forgot Damon was in Interstellar. One of my favorite SF films yet.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (owkQl)

366 Fuck it, they all suck. Some of the best are probably mostly unknown, because the left always fails up. Shit rises to the top.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 03:00 PM (9Om/r)

331 Matt Damon





you got that out right before I was going to say the same.

everything about the actor is less important than everything else in the movie. none of the great movies ere made great by the actor and no lousy movie was ever saved by the actor.

they are of about the same importance to a movie as the decor is to a restaurant, they might make it nicer but it is not essential.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (HALdu)

367
Sophia Loren
Raquel Welch
Ursula Andreas

Who cares how they acted?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (Wx/+I)

368 you need to differentiate btwn Movie Stars ad Actors

John Wayne is a great movie star

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:05 PM (+8+gB)

369 I think it's difficult to overrate an actor. The best one can be is "good/satisfactory." Like a ditchdigger.

A ditchdigger can be conscientious and a good worker, but nobody is going to be raving that so-and-so is a "ditchdigger par excellence, truly without equal in his time. This unmatched virtuoso of the dirt-pile staggered me with his performance... he's the clear front-runner for Mudchucker of the Year."

The art of filmmaking is in the hands of the set crew, the cameramen, the screenwriter, the musicians, the makeup people, SFX, the director, he'll... the caterers are more skilled than the actors.

The actors just do as they're told. Their only real value is looking good in the costumes, and parroting written lines.

You can be bad at that, but it's damn near impossible to be great at it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:05 PM (5aX2M)

370 Meryl Streep and Tom cruise
( my tablet knew, hardly had to type them)

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:05 PM (BbGew)

371 Redford gets a lifetime pass from me for Jeremiah Johnson and The Sting. Pachino, DeNiro, and the rest of the cast in "Heat" were all terrific (and check out Kilmer's tactical reload during the heist shootout!)

Posted by: Pitts at August 18, 2019 03:05 PM (oarkx)

372 No. I thought he had for Sideways but the Academy screwed the pooch.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:04 PM (y7DUB)

Really good movie, although I have to be in just the right mood to enjoy it. Virgnia Madsen was smokin' in that one. She seems to have aged well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (1b0OH)

373 ''Oh and the only thing I can tolerate Nicholas Cage in is Raising Arizona.''

The ony thing I liked Streep in was "Sophie's Choice" maybe because she was paired with Kevin Kline for part of it and he is a very good actor.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (jm1YL)

374 306; pocono and indy cars just don't get along. a bonehead move. crazy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (KP5rU)

375 John Wayne is a great movie star
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:05 PM (+8+gB)

Wayne also had range. He did not get a chance to use it often, but he had it. The Searchers and Red River are examples.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (ycWCI)

376 Jonathan Winters in IAMMMMW.

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (MVjcR)

377 Who cares how they acted?


Sophia Loren could act. Two Women.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (fuK7c)

378 George Clooney plays the same guy in every roll.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (cknjq)

379
Sorry, Newman carried Redford in The Sting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (Wx/+I)

380 Never overrated: Robert Duvall.

He's good even when he's phoning it in for a paycheck. *cough*A Bight in Old Mexico*cough*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:07 PM (yQpMk)

381 One actress who showed some range but who I can no longer stand watching is Sigourney Weaver.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:07 PM (Y8PSl)

382 or Night


either or

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:07 PM (yQpMk)

383 Never liked Dudley. So, never seen it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:02 PM (1b0OH)


Watch the 1967 version of Bedazzled. It's very funny. He and Cook were very good together and had some classic comedy routines like the one legged Tarzan.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:07 PM (p+3oP)

384 Someone beat me to Jack Nicholson. Talk about people who are caricatures of themselves.


And DiCaprio seems perpetually 17 to me. I can never take him seriously.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:07 PM (zXnjg)

385 Kevin Costner is a wooden boy.
I can see his strings.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (hYUjK)

386 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

387 Someone they need to stop trying to make happen already:

Melissa McCarthy

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (hutaE)

388 worker, but nobody is going to be raving that so-and-so is a "ditchdigger par excellence, truly without equal in his time. This unmatched virtuoso of the dirt-pile staggered me with his performance... he's the clear front-runner for Mudchucker of the Year."

The art of filmmaking is in the hands of the set crew, the cameramen, the screenwriter, the musicians, the makeup people, SFX, the director, he'll... the caterers are more skilled than the actors.

The actors just do as they're told. Their only real value is looking good in the costumes, and parroting written lines.

You can be bad at that, but it's damn near impossible to be great at it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at A




yes

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (HALdu)

389 Redford was entertaining in Three Days of the Condor I've seen recently.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (bUjCl)

390 Don't talk to me about Gene Hackman:

https://youtu.be/8txLht1rJZw

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (adC0H)

391 Old one but...I think Mickey Rooney is over-rated. Especially his early, star-making roles.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:51

Hah. Agree. I hadn't thought of him in eons until OM posted picture of young Elizabeth Taylor few weeks ago. They were in National Velvet together. He had top billing, iirc.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (Dhht7)

392 Jonathan Winters in IAMMMMW.
Posted by: Weasel

The codebreaker ?

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (arJlL)

393 '' If we're going to rate great actors, I'll start with Gene Hackman. ''

Robert Duvall

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (jm1YL)

394 Oh come on, they all suck.

Posted by: Gmac - Winning never gets old, like me ... But I'm still winning dammit! at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (qZdIZ)

395 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)


Top Secret.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (t+qrx)

396 Pat O'Brien starring as Pat O'Brien in another Pat O'Brien film "Pat O'Brien, The Plucky Fast Talking Irishman But Not A Priest This Time".

Posted by: Vasily Balzfalov at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (U7Mh9)

397 Jeremy Irons, but I give him a pass on The Man in the Iron Mask, where he was quite good. The movie also had an honorable mention candidate, Gerard Depardieu.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (OxpGy)

I maintain the Jeremy Irons saying "Fuck it" and turning it up to eleven is one of the great joys of entertainment. He's in the awful Dungeons and Dragons, he was Large Ham on rye when he did The Lion King. It's his voice, I think, he just *sounds* like an over the top bad guy so well I can't help but like him.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (hpTWt)

398 To tell the truth, they are all overrated

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (+8+gB)

399 >>361 Bruce Campbell.

Bruce Campbell gives you exactly what you want. Bruce Campbell. And I'm happy with that. He showed a bit more of his acting chops in Bubba Hotep where he played and elderly man in a retirement home that was being preyed upon by a mummy.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (l6b3d)

400 The actors just do as they're told. Their only real value is looking good in the costumes, and parroting written lines.


That's silly. I can remember lines and I'm quite good looking, that doesn't make me an actor.

A good actor makes you forget that you're watching an actor, the performance becomes a real person whom you feel.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (fuK7c)

401 Greatest old
Henry Fonda
John Wayne
Katherine Hepburn

New?
Have to think, I like Mark Wahberg

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (BbGew)

402


Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)


yes - The Doors where he played Jim Morrison.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (bUjCl)

403 I assume at least some of you liked Matt Damon in Rounders. Or at least liked the movie. KGB, bitchezz.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (y7DUB)

404
The codebreaker ?
Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (arJlL)
-
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)

405 Someone they need to stop trying to make happen already:

Melissa McCarthy
Posted by: Jordan61

Agree. They are trying to make her out to be something she isn't

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (vd8XM)

406 Kevin Costner is a wooden boy.
I can see his strings.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (hYUjK)


That's weird, then why's he acting like there's a hand up his ass?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (adC0H)

407 Billy Bob Thornton has had a lot of drastic range in his characters.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (YA914)

408 Category for consderation: Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off:

Michael Biehn
Fred Ward

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (ycWCI)

409 A ditchdigger can be conscientious and a good worker, but nobody is
going to be raving that so-and-so is a "ditchdigger par excellence,
truly without equal in his time. This unmatched virtuoso of the
dirt-pile staggered me with his performance... he's the clear
front-runner for Mudchucker of the Year."


That was pretty funny.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (T6t7i)

410
Duvall has to be near the top of good actors too.

I'll watch Henry, but agree the rest of the Fondas, no.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (r+sAi)

411 I've probably said this, but I will never forget when I was a kid and we were sailing thru Newport Harbor out to Catalina. John Wayne had a home on the Harbor. We always looked to see if he was around. One nice Saturday afternoon, we saw him outside and we were jumping up and down waiving, and he waved back. Was a real highlight!

Who doesn't love the Duke.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BLFnH)

412 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)



Top Secret.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (t+qrx)


That was some funny shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (9Om/r)

413 and I see it was said already...

5
all of them.


Posted by: redc1c4

Well ... DITTO DAMMIT.

Posted by: Gmac - Winning never gets old, like me ... But I'm still winning dammit! at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (qZdIZ)

414 386 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

Real Genius

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (ycWCI)

415 I don't think having a wide range as an actor is necessary. Some very good actors weren't good if they left their niche roles. Doesn't make them bad, just limited.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (ltuaO)

416 Farley can't act for shit anymore. It's as if he was dead.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (flINI)

417 has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?


The buddy detective thing with Russel Crowe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (fuK7c)

418 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)
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A masterpiece.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (aXucN)

419 John Malkovich - never over-rated.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (r+sAi)

420 Robert Duvall add to the greatest in the old category

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (BbGew)

421 My favs are probably Melvin Douglas and Olivia de H


Which reminds me, Peter Sellers is over the top overrated

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (+8+gB)

422 has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?


Oh, and Thunderheart. I love that one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (fuK7c)

423 sorry Melvyn

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (+8+gB)

424 Diane Keaton

Posted by: DAWG at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (lMn1U)

425 Fat actors? John Goodman is easily the best.
And he's still alive.

-
Not by much.

In a 2009 interview, Goodman opened up about his alcoholism, saying, "I don't know how much the old Jackie Daniel's franchise ruined my memory, which is going anyway, because of my advancing decrepitude. I had a 30-year run, and at the end I didn't care about anything. I was just fed up with myself. I didn't even want to be an actor anymore." In October 2012, he said, "If I'd picture in my mind a drink - usually straight out of the bottle - I couldn't not do it." He said that, while acting in plays, "I'd have the shakes so bad I'd have to have a drink to get through the show. I'm lucky I never got fired." Eventually, he "bottomed out" and has been sober since 2007. He tries to attend an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting every morning.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

426 @123 If you support Tienanmen Square Round 2 though, that is a-ok?
----------------
If you don't, then you'll suddenly vanish for a few months with no one having the slightest idea where you are. That's what happened when Bingbing Fan had a disagreement with the government about her taxes.
Celebrity won't save you. And it probably makes it more likely that the PRC government will scrutinize what you say, and how enthusiastic you are when saying it.

Posted by: junior at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (GJHOM)

427 418 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)
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A masterpiece.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (aXucN)
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It is! I love that movie,

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (MVjcR)

428 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (hpTWt)

429 I finally saw "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood." Never cared for Tarantino but he's done good and morally informed work here. His best movie, I think. He coaxes this movie along slowly and slyly, and it builds. The scene at Spahn Ranch is great -- grim and foreboding. My only quibble was that I thought DiCaprio's performance was overly broad. Many good cameos. Damien Lewis, who plays Steve McQueen, does an uncanny impersonation.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (H8QX8)

430 has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?

Wonderland where he played a coked out John Holmes, based on a true story.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (y7DUB)

431 Tom Hanks is another playing Tom Hanks in a Tom Hanks movie

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (BbGew)

432 Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off

Don Cheadle.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (T6t7i)

433 I'll watch Henry, but agree the rest of the Fondas, no.

Bridgette is pretty good

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (arJlL)

434 Oldman and Denzel top my list of great actors.


First time I remember seeing Denzel was in Glory. The lashing scene is heartbreaking not just because of the situation, but because Denzel made it heartbreaking without speaking a word.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (zXnjg)

435 John Wayne is a great movie star

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:05 PM (+8+gB)



Wayne also had range. He did not get a chance to use it often, but he had it. The Searchers and Red River are examples.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:06 PM (ycWCI)



Not sure if this is an apocryphal story or not but Wayne idolized Harry Carey Sr and on a movie they were making he brought up to someone that he wanted to do roles outside of being John Wayne on screen. The person pointed to Carey and said, Would you want him to play anything but the roles he does? Wayne said, No. And the person said, Well that's how your fans feel about you too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (p+3oP)

436 t's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)


On long road trips, my wife and I will discuss doing a remake of a film like that, or any of the other big cast ones, with todays "stars"

I don't think you could do it

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (vd8XM)

437 It is! I love that movie,
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (MVjcR)
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It's nice to find someone who enjoys the same highbrow tastes that I do.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (aXucN)

438 I've probably said this, but I will never forget when I was a kid and we were sailing thru Newport Harbor out to Catalina. John Wayne had a home on the Harbor. We always looked to see if he was around. One nice Saturday afternoon, we saw him outside and we were jumping up and down waiving, and he waved back. Was a real highlight!

Who doesn't love the Duke.
Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BLFnH)


He used to moor in San Diego too. That was a big motor yacht.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (aS1PU)

439 <i>George Clooney plays the same guy in every roll.</i>
gravity was it for me

Done.

Posted by: happyfeet at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (dMWxj)

440 Maybe not the Greatest Actors who ever lived, but I will watch anything with Fred Astaire, Cary Grant, or Jimmy Stewart in it. Also Audrey Hepburn.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (lwiT4)

441 Which reminds me, Peter Sellers is over the top overrated
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (+8+gB)

??!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Lionel Mandrake, the President AND Dr. Strangelove? And didn't he play like fifteen people in Kind Hearts and Coronets?

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (hpTWt)

442 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)
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A masterpiece.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (aXucN)
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It is! I love that movie,
Posted by: Weasel

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (arJlL)

443 Category for consderation: Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off:



Michael Biehn

Fred Ward



Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (ycWCI)


Yeah, Biehn was great in the first terminator movie.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (9Om/r)

444 432 Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off

Don Cheadle.
Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (T6t7i)

Oh yes

* rolls eyes *

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (+8+gB)

445 So let me understand this.


If you say "blue lives matter", complain about Antifa or BLM terrorists killing cops, or point out the FNM is lying about a number of high profile police incidents here in the US, Hollywood will blacklist you.

If you support Tienanmen Square Round 2 though, that is a-ok?


Posted by: 18-1 at A



yes.

however, she is not really American, she got her citizenship then went back to china, now she is trying to make it as an actress here.

not sure how someone could not support the hong knog protesters against the chicom orcs.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (HALdu)

446 In one movie Tom Hanks could be alone on a island in WWII with flashbacks to his friend named Sally.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (BbGew)

447 He showed a bit more of his acting chops in Bubba Hotep where he played and elderly man in a retirement home that was being preyed upon by a mummy.
Posted by: bananaDream at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (l6b3d)


That was a surprisingly good little film considering. And you're right, I can't think of anything he was in where he wasn't Bruce Campbell. No doubt he's the same guy he played in Burn Notice, wearing a Hawaiian shirt, using the hidden key to get into your apartment and checking your fridge for a cold beer.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (adC0H)

448 Brian Denehy

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (GaOgf)

449 The way you shoot, nobody is going to argue with you.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 18, 2019 02:45 PM (xJa6I)

Heh, sure, if they stand real still, about 3 yards away, and give me like 10-15 seconds to line up my sights.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (hutaE)

450 Who doesn't love the Duke.
Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BLFnH)

He was Grand Marshal at the Cody (WY) Stampede parade a couple years before he died. Big hit. Funny thing though, is my dad was more stoked to see Jimmy Doolittle the following year (or the year before, can't remember).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (1b0OH)

451 Maybe not the Greatest Actors who ever lived, but I will watch anything with Fred Astaire, Cary Grant, or Jimmy Stewart in it. Also Audrey Hepburn.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (lwiT4)
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Me too, grammie. Charade is one of my all-time favorites.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (aXucN)

452


An actor who is always enjoyable to watch was William Powell. Especially good in the Thin Man movies.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (p+3oP)

453 105 Costner is really good in Yellowstone.

But, speaking of contrarian, I liked Waterworld.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (fuK7c)

Waterworld isn't as bad as everyone thinks, but why do *two* post-apocalyptic movies (the Postman) back to back?

He lost his mojo there for a while, and has only gotten it back some by playing grizzled old men.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (ijEPD)

454
Somehow It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World never came together for me. It's like everything except the kitchen sink and everyone in Hollywood who needed a paycheck.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (Wx/+I)

455 442
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)

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A masterpiece.



Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:11 PM (aXucN)

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It is! I love that movie,

Posted by: Weasel



Seconded !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (arJlL)

+++Love it, too. Hadn't watched it for a long while and when I did, I was laughing so hard, I was crying.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (9+jnX)

456 ''Jeremy Irons, but I give him a pass on The Man in the Iron Mask, where he was quite good. ''

Watch him as Shakespeare's Henry IV. Wow.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (jm1YL)

457 437 It is! I love that movie,
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (MVjcR)
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It's nice to find someone who enjoys the same highbrow tastes that I do.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:13 PM (aXucN)
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Also, The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming!

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (MVjcR)

458 Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off

Don Cheadle.




I want to like Don Cheadle, but he just doesn't do it for me. I'd rather have Will Smith in his roles.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (yQpMk)

459 Love Andy Garcia

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (a4qVe)

460 I like Will Smith

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (BbGew)

461 In one movie Tom Hanks could be alone on a island in WWII with flashbacks to his friend named Sally.
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (BbGew)

He builds a plane to escape with his friend Wilson, but it crashes in the Hudson because the oxygen tank exploded and they get abducted by Somali pirates.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (hpTWt)

462 Also, The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (MVjcR)
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Yes! Yes! Yes! And The In-Laws!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (aXucN)

463 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)



Top Secret.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM (t+qrx)


That was some funny shit.
Posted by: Berserker-

Agreed ! LOL !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (arJlL)

464 has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?


The buddy detective thing with Russel Crowe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

I thought thought that was Ryan Gosling, not Kilmer. Or is that a different movie?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (Dhht7)

465 408 Category for consderation: Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off:

Michael Biehn
Fred Ward
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (ycWCI)



Michael Biehn was and may still be absolutely gorgeous. I never cared for Tom Cruise or whoever was the "hot guy" when I was young, but Michael Biehn? Yum.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (mFoNl)

466 I like Jackie Chan.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (YA914)

467 Category for consderation: Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off:

Ed Norton, Parker Posey and Amy Madigan.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (y7DUB)

468 I thought thought that was Ryan Gosling, not Kilmer. Or is that a different movie?


I may be thoroughly mistaken.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (fuK7c)

469 Why is it that so many rappers make decent actors? Ice Cude, Ice T, Queen whatsherface, Cool Jay, Will Smith etc.

Is Rap just an act to begin with?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (yQpMk)

470 ''Me too, grammie. Charade is one of my all-time favorites. ''

Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. Perfect chemistry despite the age difference.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (jm1YL)

471 I rather liked Brian Dennehey as the iceberg in Titanic.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (QZxnf)

472 Lionel Mandrake, the President AND Dr. Strangelove? And didn't he play like fifteen people in Kind Hearts and Coronets?

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:14 PM (hpTWt)



Alec Guinness was in Kind Hearts and Coronets. He played the entire D'Ascoyne family. Sellers played a number of roles in The Mouse That Roared.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (p+3oP)

473 Clint Eastwood is one of the greats.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (GaOgf)

474 Morgan Freeman always seems the same to me, starring as The Narrator, but I always like him.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (lK7fO)

475
Me too, grammie. Charade is one of my all-time favorites.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (aXucN)
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WeaselWoman says you have great taste!

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (MVjcR)

476 Love it, too. Hadn't watched it for a long while and when I did, I was laughing so hard, I was crying.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 03:16 PM (9+jnX)
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I've told this story before, but many years ago when it first came out on VHS, I saw it in Costco and picked it up to give my husband for Christmas. When he was unwrapping it, I suddenly wondered if something I thought was so darn hilarious when I was a kid would seem funny now that I was an adult.

Oh my goodness, when we sat down to watch it we laughed so hard we cried all the way through it. And our kids have seen it with us so many times they can quote parts of it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (aXucN)

477 Peter Sellers in The Party.

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (MVjcR)

478 I really liked Lancaster in Local Hero.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (OSgHz)

479 Morgan Freeman is ... the Numinous Negro

Coming this fall to CBS.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (yQpMk)

480 Grump- yes

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (BbGew)

481 393
'' If we're going to rate great actors, I'll start with Gene Hackman. ''



Robert Duvall

**********Both are great.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (LbKi2)

482 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

I saw Goodman playing with his band at Mardi Gras in 1995, and yeah, he was *smashed* there up on stage.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:19 PM (ijEPD)

483 Ed Norton, Parker Posey and Amy Madigan.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:17 PM (y7DUB)

I like Edward Norton too. The first thing I saw him in was Primal Fear. He was great in that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (hutaE)

484 Danny Glover has really bad politics, but he never has a bad performance.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (GaOgf)

485 WeaselWoman says you have great taste!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (MVjcR)
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As does she, obviously!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (aXucN)

486 Bob Duvall is a horde favorite.

Posted by: kallisto at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (jtf24)

487 a-hole list : barrack obama

Posted by: barry soetoro at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (/9em5)

488 Clint Eastwood is one of the greats.
Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (GaOgf)

He is, but he's not exactly a chameleon either.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (hpTWt)

489 I've always thought John Wayne was wooden. On the other hand Denzel Washington was incredible in Glory.

Posted by: Aud at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (uBywd)

490 Other than Tombstone, has Val Kilmer been outstanding in anything?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:08 PM

Real Genius.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (QZxnf)

491 Grump- yes


Yes Rap is just an act?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

492 I wonder if Meryl Streep would have been a better actress if she would have had slightly smaller parts rather than always been the headliner.
She might not be so annoying if she was in a secondary role.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (eAMlh)

493 474
Morgan Freeman always seems the same to me, starring as The Narrator, but I always like him.



Posted by: t-bird



This is a different category: the hopelessly overexposed. Samuel L. Jackson and (at one point) Helen Hunt also belong there.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (T6t7i)

494 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM (MVjcR)
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A masterpiece.

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"A masterpiece"? There's not one LGBTEIEIO character in the whole movie!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (+y/Ru)

495 470 ''Me too, grammie. Charade is one of my all-time favorites. ''

Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. Perfect chemistry despite the age difference.
Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (jm1YL)

And just a damn fun movie. Coburn in it as well, also a great turn by Walter Mathhau.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (ycWCI)

496 I like Jackie Chan.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at A




chicom

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (HALdu)

497 Category for consderation: Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off:

Jim Caviezel, but he won't be part of anything he doesn't consider adhering to traditional values.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (y7DUB)

498 you know who can't act at all? musicians. back in the 30's & 40's they'd appear in bit parts and generally stand around like posts. which is surprising since they're performers with on-stage experience. same thing with a lot of pop musicians today.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (Pg+x7)

499 >>466 I like Jackie Chan.

So do we. Big fans.

Posted by: PRC at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (l6b3d)

500 A good actor makes you forget that you're watching an actor, the performance becomes a real person whom you feel.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:09 PM

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This is impossible when you're famous. I can't forget I'm watching an actor unless they're unknown.

In other words it's a skill that can be exercised (perhaps best) by a worker with the least experience.

And I was a good-looking kid who had to take a couple acting classes for Comms credits, and I kicked ass at it, with zero interest and commitment.

All you have to do is read the script for context so you know what the character is "supposed" to be "feeling," and then mimic that. A child can do it. It's basic reading comprehension.

Plus be super good looking, and have a great agent who knows whose back to scratch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (5aX2M)

501 I like Edward Norton too. The first thing I saw him in was Primal Fear. He was great in that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (hutaE)



He was pretty good in the sewers too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (p+3oP)

502 Cary Grant and Sean Connery are the only two actors I can think of who essentially played themselves every time, but could pull it off.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (zXnjg)

503 Adam Sandler and Will Ferrell. How in god's name have they made the kind of money they have with the ridiculous movies they have been in?

Posted by: Mamawolf at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (tpY/7)

504 I did like Bening in "Open Range."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (I5SAg)

505 Clint Eastwood performance was a tour de force in Every Which Way But Loose.

And that orangutan! That was so dope!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (YA914)

506 Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (p+3oP)

Of course. My mistake

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (hpTWt)

507 With rare exceptions, once an actor "makes it," they invariably start to play versions of themselves.

One of the rare exceptions is Daniel Day Lewis and Michael Shannon to name a few.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (HuoE/)

508 Jim Caviezel, but he won't be part of anything he doesn't consider adhering to traditional values.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (y7DUB)

Frequency is an underrated movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (ycWCI)

509


Cary Grant was very talented he could go from Notorious to Arsenic and Old Lace and be equally good in both

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (p+3oP)

510 Danny Glover has really bad politics, but he never has a bad performance.
Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (GaOgf)


Agreed. He seems like an amiable dunce.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (aS1PU)

511 Birdie Num-Num!
https://tinyurl.com/y6co3nf6

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (MVjcR)

512 I like Edward Norton too. The first thing I saw him in was Primal Fear. He was great in that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (hutaE)

American History X. The movie was eeeehhhh, but he was good.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (hpTWt)

513 498
you know who can't act at all?

Stan Lee. Fortunately, no longer an issue.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (T6t7i)

514 An actor whose career never took off was Lillo Brancato, Jr. (A Bronx Tale). Now, though, he's trying out for the lead role in a remake of 'Shawshank Redemption', except he's not innocent.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (Y8PSl)

515
Cary Grant was very talented he could go from Notorious to Arsenic and Old Lace and be equally good in both
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (p+3oP)

Plus he was sexy.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (GaOgf)

516 I'm sitting here imagining an actor from the last three generations reading this thread and wondering why he's not been mentioned.

Really, how would you feel if you were Alan Arkin?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (fuK7c)

517 497 Category for consderation: Actors you liked, but who never seemed to take off:

Jim Caviezel, but he won't be part of anything he doesn't consider adhering to traditional values.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (y7DUB)

I went to high school with him for a year. We didn't have any classes together or anything, but still.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (ijEPD)

518 Bad link, Weasel.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (aXucN)

519 Who the Hell is Mark Ruffalo?

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (I5SAg)

520
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
6m
Juan Williams at @FoxNews is so pathetic, and yet when he met me in the Fox Building lobby, he couldn't have been nicer as he asked me to take a picture of him and me for his family. Yet he is always nasty and wrong!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (BqBId)

521 old timey great actor: John Garfield

Posted by: kallisto at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (jtf24)

522 495 470 ''Me too, grammie. Charade is one of my all-time favorites. ''

Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. Perfect chemistry despite the age difference.
Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:18 PM (jm1YL)

And just a damn fun movie. Coburn in it as well, also a great turn by Walter Mathhau.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:20 PM (ycWCI)

And George Kennedy! I love the movie, because of the American Express office. It was the actual office in Paris, (I had to go there for calls home, etc, when I lived there) and it was exciting to see it in the movie. I remember using the phone booths for trans atlantic calls.

Also, get off my lawn.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (mFoNl)

523 Watch Stranger than Fiction for a good Will Farrell movie. It's got a good story and good acting, although Farrell does go a little overboard.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (a4qVe)

524 Will Ferrell, all of those Avenger people.

Posted by: Abby at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (2Zu6X)

525 507 With rare exceptions, once an actor "makes it," they invariably start to play versions of themselves.

One of the rare exceptions is Daniel Day Lewis and Michael Shannon to name a few.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (HuoE/)

Lewis so gets into the role you can't even think it's him.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (ijEPD)

526 Daniel Day-Lewis is great, but there's no daylight between what he did in The Will Be Blood and Gangs of New York.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (hpTWt)

527 519 Who the Hell is Mark Ruffalo?
Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (I5SAg)

The Hulk I think.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (eAMlh)

528 Cary Grant was very talented he could go from Notorious to Arsenic and Old Lace and be equally good in both
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (p+3oP)

Plus he was sexy.
Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (GaOgf)

Another good example is North By Northwest.

That train scene. They set the car on fire.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (ycWCI)

529 It is! I love that movie,
Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:12 PM (MVjcR)



Mad mad mad is awesome. Along the same lines I thought about another farce.

As much as Streisand has turned into a lunatic,

What's up Doc? is a fun movie.









What's up Doc? is a fun movie.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (cknjq)

530 Really, how would you feel if you were Alan Arkin?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (fuK7c)
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Mentioned as being good or bad? I like him. He starred in two of the movies the most excellent Weasel and I were discussing, The Russians are Coming and The In-Laws.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (aXucN)

531 Clint Eastwood performance was a tour de force in Every Which Way But Loose.

And that orangutan! That was so dope!
*******
Right Turn Clyde

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (BqBId)

532 292 eye update:

vmom:

No heavy lifting or head banging for a week!

(stern look)

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (+72t1)

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (2VrwR)

533 ''Alec Guinness was in Kind Hearts and Coronets.''

Probably one of the finest actors ever. He could portray a lifetime of living with just his eyes.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (jm1YL)

534 Always got a kick out of Michael J Pollard.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (k3WO2)

535 519 Who the Hell is Mark Ruffalo?
Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (I5SAg)



Punk from Kenosha. His family runs the hair salon on Highway 50. True story.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (lwiT4)

536 test

Posted by: HH at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (mIJBI)

537 Clint Eastwood was great in Gran Torino and Forgiven, 2 of his more recent movies.

You don't stay in show business for 60 plus years unless you have talent.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (GaOgf)

538 Bob Duvall is a horde favorite.
Posted by: kallisto

He was great in Lonesome Dove, as was Tommy Lee Jones.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (arJlL)

539 Who the Hell is Mark Ruffalo?
Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (I5SAg)

He's the Hulk in the current MCU Avengers, and...

and...

...

Nothing else I can remember. He's also a diehard leftist glue sniffer.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (hpTWt)

540 Mentioned as being good or bad?


That's my small point. As anything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (fuK7c)

541 Frequency is an underrated movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:22 PM (ycWCI)


Back when over the airwaves tv showed movies, I accidentally turned on a channel after it was underway and was instantly fascinated. I yelled to my wife to come watch it but make it quick because it's already hard to explain. After it was over I immediately rented it to watch the whole thing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (y7DUB)

542 You don't stay in show business for 60 plus years unless you have talent.

Posted by: ALH


Disagree.

Posted by: Lorne Michaels at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (T6t7i)

543 love clint eastwood but gran torino is essentially retired harry callahan handles the hood.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (HALdu)

544 519 Who the Hell is Mark Ruffalo?
Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (I5SAg)

Bruce Banner/The Hulk in the MCU.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (ijEPD)

545 ''Who the Hell is Mark Ruffalo?
Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (I5SAg)



Punk from Kenosha. His family runs the hair salon on Highway 50. True story.''

Also, nasty leftist POS.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (jm1YL)

546 I think rap is a act, it's not just getting lines, it's the moves that keep it going

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:27 PM (BbGew)

547 vmom:

No heavy lifting or head banging for a week!

(stern look)

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 02:55 PM (+72t1)
Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (2VrwR)

Not even with a hockey helmet?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:27 PM (eAMlh)

548 Bob Duvall is a horde favorite.
Posted by: kallisto

That's because we don't rent pigs.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:27 PM (GaOgf)

549 Alec Guinness was in Kind Hearts and Coronets.''

Probably one of the finest actors ever. He could portray a lifetime of living with just his eyes.
Posted by: Tuna

Unless he poked one with a drink umbrella !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:27 PM (arJlL)

550 I'd wager James Woods is a favorite 'round here too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:27 PM (YA914)

551 But Al Pacino is Michael Corleone. Forever and ever and ever. And so I give him a pass.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (2VrwR)

552 Another vote for Will Ferrell. I cannot stand anything he does. He essentially provides the same awkwardness to every film and it's cringey, not funny, every time.

Posted by: LOOK IM A 6-FOOT-SOMETHING OGRE PRETENDING TO BE SIX YEARS OLD AGAIN at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (EFmfL)

553 Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:26 PM (y7DUB)

It was a potential "comeback" movie for Dennis Quaid. Very watchable.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (ijEPD)

554 518 Bad link, Weasel.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (aXucN)
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Well damnit. Not sure why that didn't work.

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (MVjcR)

555 one of the great, great actors of all time:

edward g. robinson

whether playing a good guy or villain, always conveyed a profound humanity.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (Pg+x7)

556 James Gardner is another great actor

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (BbGew)

557 The only thing I can watch Will Farrell in is Elf. Other than that, I've been wondering why the fvck anyone has thought he was funny since he was on SNL.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (zXnjg)

558 love clint eastwood but gran torino is essentially retired harry callahan handles the hood.


No. Harry Callahan is a static character. Walt Kowalski evolves.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (fuK7c)

559 @526
That is simply not true, watch any scene in the respective movies and you will see that the two characters are performed, voiced and exhibit vastly different idiosyncrasies, mannerisms and motivations.

Lewis is simply phenomenal in performance.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (HuoE/)

560 whether playing a good guy or villain, always conveyed a profound humanity.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (Pg+x7)

Hmmm, not much humanity in Key Largo, except the bad parts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (ycWCI)

561 I'm a big Wil Ferrell h8er

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (BbGew)

562 Try this with space before 'watch' removed

https://m.youtube.com/ watch?v=ZFKJuzrCGj4

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (MVjcR)

563 I do make an exception for comedic actors. They often write their own stuff, and the have to make people laugh, which is very hard.

One of these *braces for incoming* is Ben Stiller, and I think he makes me laugh because many of his jokes come from his contempt for the celebrity culture he grew up in.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (5aX2M)

564 old timey great actor: John Garfield

Posted by: kallisto at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (jtf24)


If you rewatch his movies, you'll notice he never did anything really physical. He had a bad heart and Hollywood covered that up with roles where he didn't have to much physical anything.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (Y8PSl)

565 Clint Eastwood performance was a tour de force in Every Which Way But Loose.

And that orangutan! That was so dope!

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Little known fact. The orangutan was played by Morgan Freeman in an uncredited role.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (+y/Ru)

566 Harry Callahan is a static character. Walt Kowalski evolves.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (fuK7c)

Indeed.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (GaOgf)

567 The first rule of activity is the camera has to love you. Once you got that you got it all.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (OSgHz)

568 Rev's favorite actors are Edward G Robinson and James Cagney.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:30 PM (lwiT4)

569 Wil Ferrell even ruins The Grinch who stole Christmas

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:30 PM (BbGew)

570 Little known fact. The orangutan was played by Morgan Freeman in an uncredited role.

.....

No shit!

That's why I love this place, I learn something new every time I come here.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:30 PM (YA914)

571 That's because we don't rent pigs.
Posted by: ALH


LOL !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:31 PM (arJlL)

572 538
Bob Duvall is a horde favorite.

Posted by: kallisto



He was great in Lonesome Dove, as was Tommy Lee Jones.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (arJlL)

+++What a great combo they were. Love the movie and the book.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 03:31 PM (9+jnX)

573 I always liked Humphrey Bogart even if he always played Humphrey Bogart.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:31 PM (eAMlh)

574 Michael Douglas was good back in the day. Loved him and Kathleen Turner in War of the Roses.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:31 PM (GaOgf)

575 Another great actor, surprisingly (or maybe not):


Bill Murray


I'm having trouble thinking of a bad movie he's been in.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (zXnjg)

576 I don't know about the rest of their work, but the two leads from Whatever Happened to Baby Jane were great.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (hpTWt)

577 568
Rev's favorite actors are Edward G Robinson and James Cagney.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:30 PM (lwiT4)

The finest.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (9+jnX)

578 Little known fact. The orangutan was played by Morgan Freeman in an uncredited role.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:29 PM (+y/Ru)

Brian Dennehy was sublime as the pickup truck.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (ijEPD)

579 Michael Biehn is an asshole.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (dUJdY)

580 old timey great actor: John Garfield

Posted by: kallisto at August 18, 2019 03:23 PM (jtf24)

If you rewatch his movies, you'll notice he never did anything really physical. He had a bad heart and Hollywood covered that up with roles where he didn't have to much physical anything.
Posted by: RickZ

That's why he steered clear of pornos.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (arJlL)

581 Bill Murray


I'm having trouble thinking of a bad movie he's been in.
Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (zXnjg)

What about Bob?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (ycWCI)

582 I thought Annette Bening did well in Open Range.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (wzzJf)

583 Whatever happened to the blonde guy who played alongside Gallipoli. I liked him in that role but I don't think I've seen him since.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (eAMlh)

584 "What's "T" stand for?"

"Trustworthy"

"Romancing the Stone" was fun.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (I5SAg)

585 I always liked Humphrey Bogart even if he always played Humphrey Bogart.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:31 PM (eAMlh)


The Caine Mutiny is the go-to reply for that. Queeg is not a classic Bogart character.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (t+qrx)

586 Rev's favorite actors are Edward G Robinson and James Cagney.
Posted by: grammie winger

Cagney was great in Mr. Roberts

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (arJlL)

587 453 105 Costner is really good in Yellowstone.

But, speaking of contrarian, I liked Waterworld.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 02:30 PM (fuK7c)

Waterworld isn't as bad as everyone thinks, but why do *two* post-apocalyptic movies (the Postman) back to back?

Road Warrior With Boats

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (WDnN1)

588 I'm having trouble thinking of a bad movie he's been in.
Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (zXnjg)


....

Lost in Translation ?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (YA914)

589 That one worked, Weasel. I've never seen that movie. Is it good? On par with our other faves, would you say?

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (aXucN)

590 James Gardner is another great actor


Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (BbGew)

Random fact: If you ask Julie Andrews who was the best kisser among all of her male co-stars, she'll answer James Garner.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (1Kr4l)

591 It was a potential "comeback" movie for Dennis Quaid. Very watchable.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:28 PM (ijEPD)


I thought the two of them interacted very well. I'm sure it was a win/win for both. Caviezel has a bit part in a movie "I am Adam" that is very confusing all the way through until everything comes together in the end.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (y7DUB)

592 Sarah Jessica Parker is so ugly it's painful. Impossible to watch that new HBO show Divorce because she's so ugly.
Funny thing about lefty kook Alex Baldwin...the only role I liked him in was in Outside Providence when he very effectively played an Archie Bunker type factory worker.
Underated...Robert Ryan. Had the evil squint before Bronson.

Posted by: Garth Hudson at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (ffwQz)

593 Scrooged with Bill Murray is a favorite of mine.

I tell you another actor who's good is Billy Bob Thornton.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (GaOgf)

594 The very best Stallone film was "Oscar."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (I5SAg)

595 > "Tom Hanks is another playing Tom Hanks in a Tom Hanks movie."

Which is what James Stewart did for basically his entire career, playing variations of himself. I don't necessarily mind that if the actor is interesting to watch.

What I do object to is top actors getting first offer of plum roles playing real-life famous celebrities when they're clearly not the best actors for those parts. Like Tom Hanks playing both Walt Disney and Fred Rogers, when he obviously neither sounds nor looks like either of those two people.


Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (E6u0J)

596 Evolving is overrated. Static is fine if you've already got it right. You really want to see Callahan get all emotional over killing some punk and enter the priesthood and begin a life of street preaching and outreach to troubled youths?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (H5knJ)

597 Lost in Translation ?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (YA914)

Scarlett Johansson's ass steals that movie, and it is the highlight of the film (which is a low bar to clear.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (ycWCI)

598 Gotta run off and bake a cake.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (aXucN)

599


Alec Guinness was another actor with tremendous range. From the Ealing comedies to Bridge on the River Kwai. Here's a quote from him in 1999 one year before his death that stood out to me considering our times and he perhaps saw our current insanity 20 years ago.




"We live in an age of apologies. Apologies, false or true, are expected
from the descendants of empire builders, slave owners, persecutors of
heretics and from men who, in our eyes, just got it all wrong. So with
the age of 85 coming up shortly, I want to make an apology. It appears I
must apologize for being male, white and European."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (p+3oP)

600 Jonathan Winters in IAMMMMW.

"Alright, if that's the way you want it, that's the way you're gonna get it!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (7s3Gx)

601 I thought Annette Bening did well in Open Range.

Great movie all around, Benning, Costner, Duvall. The villain was over the top, was that Michael Gambon?

The scene at the end when the townsfolk are chasing the last bad guy reminded me of the peasants attacking the downed bandit with garden tools in Seven Samurai.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (fuK7c)

602 Impossible to watch that new HBO show Divorce because she's so ugly.
Posted by: Garth Hudson at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (ffwQz)

Gotta say, that network plus that title would keep me away regardless.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (hpTWt)

603 What was the first movie in which you first saw an actor who went on to a long career.
I think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (eAMlh)

604 Glenn Close.

Susan Sarandon

Jane Fonda

Leonardo DiCaprio

George Cloony

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2019 03:36 PM (nRWPy)

605
SAMUEL L JACKSON (Mr. Yells-All-The-Time)!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 18, 2019 03:36 PM (dyaak)

606 581
Bill Murray





I'm having trouble thinking of a bad movie he's been in.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (zXnjg)



What about Bob?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (ycWCI)

+++
I am a fan of Murray's. However, he ruined the movie Andy Garcia made (I think he wrote and directed) about the commie takeover of Cuba. For some reason he put Murray in it as a stand-up comedian who is caught in the mayhem, still trying to be funny with one-liners in a very serious movie. Didn't work.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 03:36 PM (9+jnX)

607 Gotta run off and bake a cake.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:34 PM (aXucN)

As long as you don't have the runs after baking that cake.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:36 PM (eAMlh)

608 immortal actors:

Peter O'Toole
Katharine Hepburn
Anthony Hopkins

"Lion in Winter"

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 03:36 PM (2VrwR)

609 "What's "T" stand for?"

"Trustworthy"

"Romancing the Stone" was fun.
Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM

"Those shoes are Italian."

"Now, they're practical."

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (GaOgf)

610 Taps had a ton of "had long careers" guys in it.

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (nRWPy)

611 James Garner is always James Garner.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (TpkkL)

612 Rev's favorite actors are Edward G Robinson and James Cagney.
Posted by: grammie winger
---

Cagney was great in Mr. Roberts

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (arJlL)


'Mr. Roberts' was William Powell's last movie role. Good way to go out, though.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (Y8PSl)

613 Jimmy Stewart once did a very strange film. He was a lefty professor dishing up anti-Western Christianity and one of his students killed a friend "just for fun." I cannot find the film on imdb.com.

When he found out what they did, he was beside himself with grief.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (I5SAg)

614 523 cheriebebe

Stranger Than Fiction

this may be the best role will ferrill ever had/did
Dont know who could have done it better.
Truly a fine movie.

His role overdone?... perhaps ...but the whole story is overdone to a degree and yet makes perfect sense..in a very absurd way.

In my top five of all time.

Posted by: Krusty at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (2j42I)

615 What was the first movie in which you first saw an actor who went on to a long career.
I think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (eAMlh)


GATTACA had Ethan Hawke and Jude Law pretty early in their careers.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (t+qrx)

616 He was great in Lonesome Dove, as was Tommy Lee Jones.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:25 PM (arJlL)

+++What a great combo they were. Love the movie and the book.
Posted by: washrivergal

Same here

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (arJlL)

617 I think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.


I don't remember if that was before or after Year of Living Dangerously, but yeah.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (fuK7c)

618 Bening was good in Bugsy. Also, Valmont. Not sure how much she's done after marrying Beatty.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 03:38 PM (bUjCl)

619
Plus be super good looking, and have a great agent who knows whose back to scratch.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:21 PM (5aX2M)

Think the actor has to do the so called back scratching, iffin ya know wad ameen.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 18, 2019 03:38 PM (e1mEI)

620 What about Bob?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 03:32 PM (ycWCI)

I thought that movie was hysterical.

Plus, he spent nearly the whole shoot piercing Richard Dreyfuss' overblown ego. To the point they haven't spoken since.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:38 PM (ijEPD)

621 "Lion in Winter"


James Bond was in that, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 03:38 PM (fuK7c)

622 SAMUEL L JACKSON (Mr. Yells-All-The-Time)!

I wish he had yelled and cursed more in Star Wars. It needed it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (g0Lfb)

623 'Mr. Roberts' was William Powell's last movie role. Good way to go out, though.
Posted by: RickZ

Yep, and quite a different turn from the Thin Man flicks

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (arJlL)

624 Michael Keaton has made several movies I've loved.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (GaOgf)

625 The Donks are all in on you're-a-racist.

Beto O'Rourke@BetoORourke
Our country was founded on racism-and is still racist today. In Arkansas, I said why I believe there's no denying this reality; and why it's on all of us to change it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (+y/Ru)

626 Hugh Grant. Aeful

Posted by: mpfs, Waiter, I'll have the Juan de Fuca Plate at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (79p/O)

627 Jimmy Stewart once did a very strange film. He was a lefty professor dishing up anti-Western Christianity and one of his students killed a friend "just for fun." I cannot find the film on imdb.com.

When he found out what they did, he was beside himself with grief.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (I5SAg)

That movie is Rope, by the one and only Alfred Hitchcock. Except it was adapted from an actual case, it was two students and I got the implication that he'd fucked both of them.

But yeah, it's a great movie.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (hpTWt)

628 185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7368429

Lord Mountbottom ... rum sodomy and the lash ... seemed to have fulfilled the second requirement anyhow.

Some creepy pictures of him with Charles.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (vWMNq)

It would not surprise me to learn that this is a smear perpetrated by Soviet moles within MI5 ot MI6. Philby, Burgess, and McLean, all fags themselves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (a72/q)

629 What was the first movie in which you first saw an actor who went on to a long career.
I think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (eAMlh)

Kevin Costner, No Way Out.

Great thriller.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (ijEPD)

630 Krusty, that movie is one of my all time favorites. It just hits you on so many levels.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (a4qVe)

631
Jimmy Stewart once did a very strange film. He was a lefty professor
dishing up anti-Western Christianity and one of his students killed a
friend "just for fun." I cannot find the film on imdb.com.



When he found out what they did, he was beside himself with grief.





Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (I5SAg)


Rope 1948. It was a Hitchcock movie and based on the Leopold and Loeb murder case

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (p+3oP)

632 I liked Pacino in Heat. Thought he held his own with De Niro.

Posted by: dougW at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (kDzRu)

633 I think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (eAMlh)


First Gibson flick I saw was 'The Year of Living Dangerously', with Sigourney Weaver.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (Y8PSl)

634 613Rope

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (U7k5w)

635 Waterworld wasn't *horrible,* in my opinion. It was decent.

It was beyond horrible for its investors. It earned a little money, but nowhere enough for the time, money, and effort they stuffed into that turkey.

Universal was still trying to get return off of it for years by leasing set pieces (notably for Titanic, and for the Waterfalls video by TLC).

It's remembered as a flop by the bankers, not the audiences.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (5aX2M)

636 I liked Pacino in Heat. Thought he held his own with De Niro.
Posted by: dougW at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (kDzRu)

But she's got a GREAT ASS!

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (hpTWt)

637 626 Hugh Grant. Aeful
Posted by: mpfs, Waiter, I'll have the Juan de Fuca Plate at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (79p/O)

I think he's cute. Loved him & Julia Roberts in Notting Hill.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (GaOgf)

638 In Arkansas, I said why I believe there's no denying this reality; and why it's on all of us to change it.


Hot tip Beto: Learn where you are.

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (nRWPy)

639 think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:35 PM (eAMlh)

First Gibson flick I saw was 'The Year of Living Dangerously', with Sigourney Weaver.
Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:40 PM (Y8PSl)

I did see that but I can't remember which I saw first.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (eAMlh)

640 Eddie Murphy probably doesn't get as much credit as he deserves as an actor. He dominated the box office for a good decade or so.

Most people just remember him for making the greatest rock song of all time, My Girl Wants to Party All the Time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (YA914)

641 If you ask Julie Andrews who was the best kisser among all of her male co-stars, she'll answer James Garner.

Posted by: Vendette at August 18, 2019 03:33

I had to look up what movie they were in together. Turns out there were 3. I'd forgotten Victor Victoria (1982.) Also, "The Americanization of Emily" (1964), and "One Special Night" (1999.)

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 18, 2019 03:41 PM (Dhht7)

642 Plus, he spent nearly the whole shoot piercing Richard Dreyfuss' overblown ego. To the point they haven't spoken since.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:38 PM (ijEPD)


LOL if that's true. I used to love how Dreyfuss played nutty characters so well until it sunk in that he wasn't really acting.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 03:42 PM (y7DUB)

643 Thanks Vanya.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:42 PM (I5SAg)

644 627 Jimmy Stewart once did a very strange film. He was a lefty professor dishing up anti-Western Christianity and one of his students killed a friend "just for fun." I cannot find the film on imdb.com.

When he found out what they did, he was beside himself with grief.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:37 PM (I5SAg)

That movie is Rope, by the one and only Alfred Hitchcock. Except it was adapted from an actual case, it was two students and I got the implication that he'd fucked both of them.

But yeah, it's a great movie.
Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:39 PM (hpTWt)

Yikes. Sounds great.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 03:42 PM (2VrwR)

645 .@jaketapper: "Do you think that it's a racist act to cast a vote for President Trump in 2020?"

Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg: "At best it means looking the other way on racism."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:42 PM (+y/Ru)

646 John Wayne ( 1st because,,, American)
Cary Grant ( best scene in N by NW,, the courtroom scene )
Henry Fonda
Glen Ford
Jimmy Stewart
Lee Marvin
Clint Eastwood

Funny, I never thought of "the great actresses" as great actresses.
I just drooled I guess.

Audrey Hepburn
Maureen O'Hara
And oh my word to die for YeVonne de Carlo

Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 03:42 PM (A9A9H)

647 Year of Living Dangerously I bet without looking is a early Mel Gibson movie

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (BbGew)

648 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:42 PM (+y/Ru)

If supporting Trump makes me a Nazi then I look great in black and silver.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (hpTWt)

649 Jimmy Stewart

Yep, I will watch anything with him or John Wayne. Maybe a few others.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (BLFnH)

650 The first role I saw Tommy Lee Jones in was as Mark in the ABC soap, One Life to Live. He was cheating on his sweet wife.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (lwiT4)

651 I think Gallipoli was the first time I saw Mel Gibson.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 18, 2019

---------

Freaking awesome movie. That one's a work of art. And it might be Gibson's first movie, period. He was very young.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (5aX2M)

652 647 Did see that in the theater when first came out

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:44 PM (BbGew)

653 650 The first role I saw Tommy Lee Jones in was as Mark in the ABC soap, One Life to Live. He was cheating on his sweet wife.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (lwiT4)

That had to be before Coal Miner's Daughter, which is where I first saw him.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:44 PM (ijEPD)

654 613: "rope"?

rope was kind of an experiment. hitchcock filmed it in one continuous take with no cuts or edits.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 03:44 PM (Pg+x7)

655 Benning was good in The Grifters and her cameo in Postcards From The Edge was funny and well done, but once she hooked up with Beatty she phoned it in.

Beatty and Redford are another two untalented, insufferable twats.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at August 18, 2019 03:45 PM (TdCQk)

656 Ah. Jeanne Tripplehorn.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:45 PM (I5SAg)

657 And it might be Gibson's first movie, period. He was very young.

I thought Mad Max was his first?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 18, 2019 03:46 PM (dUJdY)

658 ''Year of Living Dangerously I bet without looking is a early Mel Gibson movie''

Lord, he was good looking in that one.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:46 PM (jm1YL)

659 Jimmy Stewart



Yep, I will watch anything with him or John Wayne. Maybe a few others.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (BLFnH)


They made two good movies together. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is a classic.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 03:46 PM (p+3oP)

660 rope was kind of an experiment. hitchcock filmed it in one continuous take with no cuts or edits.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 03:44 PM (Pg+x7)

Well, there are cuts because he didn't have a two-hour reel of film, but he panned behind scenery or character's backs to hide them. But yeah, besides that the whole thing is one take with the camera moving through the apartment.

Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:46 PM (hpTWt)

661 645: Tapper is such a red

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 03:46 PM (U7k5w)

662 Underated...Robert Ryan. Had the evil squint before Bronson.

He was in one of my all time faves - The Wild Bunch

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 03:47 PM (arJlL)

663 Recall that at least a third and possibly a half of name Hollywood stars are such because of nepotism, or fornicated their way onscreen, and a good chunk of such lists explains itself.

Posted by: Utility muffin at August 18, 2019 03:47 PM (oS0xz)

664 Nope Gallipoli was two years after Mad Max. I guess it just felt older to me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:47 PM (5aX2M)

665 Kilmer was great in Spartan and Dudley Moore in 10 is awesome.

Posted by: rammajamma at August 18, 2019 03:48 PM (xceTB)

666 I agree with Cheribebe that I like one movie that a lot of these folks made, although I generally agree that they are overrated. Some of the movies are, I admit, obscure. Don't watch many modern movies.

Meryl Streep--Defending Your Life
Ben Stiller--Zero Effect
Marlon Brando--The Freshman
Dustin Hoffman--Wag the Dog
Harrison Ford--Working Girl
Burt Lancaster--(not good acting but a rollicking good movie that shows off his acrobat history)

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 03:48 PM (S+f+m)

667 Rear Window is another classic.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:48 PM (BLFnH)

668 And it might be Gibson's first movie, period. He was very young.

I thought Mad Max was his first?
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 18, 2019 03:46 PM (dUJdY)

He was in one called Tim, with Piper Laurie. Very young in that one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (8qegj)

669 I was wrong,
I never promised you a rose garden 1977
Mad Max 1979
Gallipoli 1981
YoLD 1982
The Bounty 1984

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (BbGew)

670 good one:

Ray Milland

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (2VrwR)

671 I will add Pauly Shore and Adam Sandler. Pauly Shore was so bad i don't think he is invited to anyones movies anymore

Pauly was on Watters World last night and was actually pretty funny, cracking on Fredo and Biden.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (6XLoz)

672 It's utterly beyond me to figure out what Lincoln was thinking when they made him their spokesman. He sounds like an idiot, scratch that, a drunk idiot.
Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:34 PM (T6t7i)

Maybe that's who Lincoln wants to buy their cars. It's been a damned long time since discerning fans of fine automobile craftsmanship were seeking to buy Lincolns.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (a72/q)

673 This era is fortunate to have 2 of the rangiest actors of all time

Russell Crowe

DD Lewis

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (+8+gB)

674 Redford in Downhill Racer is as bad as it gets

Posted by: rammajamma at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (xceTB)

675 Jimmy Stewart



Yep, I will watch anything with him

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Perhaps not a great film but a highly enjoyable one, Winchester '73.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (+y/Ru)

676 Paul Newman in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, Cool Hand Luke, The Sting, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid.

Another great actor with a career that spanned decades.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (GaOgf)

677 526 Daniel Day-Lewis is great, but there's no daylight between what he did in The Will Be Blood and Gangs of New York.
Posted by: Vanya at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (hpTWt)

Cecil? Hawkeye? Lincoln?

Posted by: Caliban at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (QE8X6)

678 The first role I saw Tommy Lee Jones in was as Mark in the ABC soap, One Life to Live. He was cheating on his sweet wife.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (lwiT4)


I saw Tommy Lee Jones in 'Love Story', without knowing who he was (because it was his first film role, I cheated and looked that up). I also saw him in 'The Eyes of Laura Mars', again without knowing who he was. It was his role as Gary Gilmore, in 'The Executioner's Song', which put him on Hollywood's map, which is ironic as that was a made-for-tv movie.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:50 PM (Y8PSl)

679 I happened to see "10" and "The Woman in Red" within days of each other. Which copied which?

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 03:50 PM (I5SAg)

680 Tommy Lee Jones, believe it or not, had a cameo in Love Story. Now that's old. Played one of Oliver Rich Boy's Harvard room mates...they were playing poker.

Posted by: Garth Hudson at August 18, 2019 03:50 PM (ffwQz)

681 most underrated actress of all time


Linda Lovelace

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:50 PM (+8+gB)

682 Beatty and Redford are another two untalented, insufferable twats.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at August 18, 2019 03:45 PM (TdCQk)

Amen.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:50 PM (ijEPD)

683 589 That one worked, Weasel. I've never seen that movie. Is it good? On par with our other faves, would you say?
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 03:33 PM (aXucN)
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It's not on the same scale as the other two, but it's pretty damn funny. Sellers accidentally gets invited to a party - hilarity ensures.

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:51 PM (MVjcR)

684 And it might be Gibson's first movie, period. He was very young.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:43 PM (5aX2M)


Nope. 'Mad Max' was before 'Gallipoli'.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:51 PM (Y8PSl)

685 My band mate Levon Helm was good as Loretta Lynn's father in Coal Miner's Daughter.

Posted by: Garth Hudson at August 18, 2019 03:51 PM (ffwQz)

686 DD Lewis

Gah, there is a flaming left wing atty here in town who writes to the paper all the time and has that name.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:51 PM (BLFnH)

687 My English teacher made us watch Gallipoli in 11th grade. I thought I'd hate it, because school.

Wrong!

It was haunting.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 03:52 PM (5aX2M)

688 ''Cecil? Hawkeye? Lincoln?''

Hawkeye please. He and Madeleine Stowe had AAA chemistry.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:53 PM (jm1YL)

689 676 Paul Newman in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, Cool Hand Luke, The Sting, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid.

Another great actor with a career that spanned decades.
Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (GaOgf)

Don't forget The Verdict. He was excellent.

He was by all accounts, like James Garner, an all around decent guy.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:53 PM (ijEPD)

690 679 Women in Red was five years after Bo and Dudley

Posted by: rammajamma at August 18, 2019 03:53 PM (xceTB)

691 It's not on the same scale as the other two, but
it's pretty damn funny. Sellers accidentally gets invited to a party -
hilarity ensures.

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 03:51 PM (MVjcR)

+++Very funny.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 03:53 PM (9+jnX)

692 Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall are two of my all-time favorites, and Lonesome Dove stands out as the best reason why: First time I saw it was after the credits had rolled, and it took me a long time to figure out who I was seeing. I had read the book a couple of times already, and was stunned at how well they captured Gus and Woodrow.

Hell, the entire cast was splendid.

Reminds me. Chris Cooper is another one of those guys I want to see in more movies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:53 PM (8qegj)

693 Gah, there is a flaming left wing atty here in town who writes to the paper all the time and has that name.
Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:51 PM (BLFnH)


AFTER he got thru playing for the Boys ???

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:54 PM (+8+gB)

694 Ellen Burstyn should have won best actress for The Exorcist. Not a false note anywhere, 100% believable. All the leads are excellent too, including Blair.

Posted by: Utility muffin at August 18, 2019 03:54 PM (oS0xz)

695 Stacey Abrams Says Voter Suppression Worse Now Than In The 1960s

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It's really not fair for us to call her Tank. She far more rezembles a barrel. Barrel Abrams.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 03:54 PM (+y/Ru)

696 Reminds me. Chris Cooper is another one of those guys I want to see in more movies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:53 PM (8qegj)

I first saw him in October Sky, and thought he was fantastic.

He just *had* to do American Beauty to ruin that.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:55 PM (ijEPD)

697 Unbearable Lightness of Being was another early date movie saw in a theater with DD Lewis

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 03:55 PM (BbGew)

698 Paul Newman in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, Cool Hand Luke, The Sting, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid.

Another great actor with a career that spanned decades.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 03:49 PM (GaOgf)


{GASP} You forgot 'Slap Shot'.

Posted by: RickZ at August 18, 2019 03:55 PM (Y8PSl)

699 Kevin Costner gives cue card readers a bad name, and his best performances are of well-intentioned dipsticks, like in Silverado ...wait, I take that back. He sucks there, too.

Similarly, Canoe Reeves' method proves there's more variety at a lumber yard. Imagine him in Shakespeare: "Nice skull, dude!"

Posted by: ArmChair in sin at August 18, 2019 03:55 PM (Nig2g)

700 Streep just plain sucks in musicals.

Demi Moore has to be on this list but I think they figure it out twenty years ago.

Posted by: James OBrien at August 18, 2019 03:55 PM (8v5tS)

701 Worst casting - John Wayne as Genghis Khan.

Posted by: Vasily Balzfalov at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (/dN1M)

702 At least I'm not over-rated anymore!

Posted by: Kevin Spacey at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (C78No)

703 Yeah, should have put Newman on that list.
I think my favorite of his was The Hustler.

To me, Tommy Lee Jones is one of those guys who plays himself though I can't say I've seen a lot of his stuff.
He does it very well though.

The Fugitive
US Marshalls

A bit off the hook in Under Siege

Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (A9A9H)

704 55 Kevin Costner should be at or near top of list
Posted by: Cristobal at August 18, 2019 02:21 PM (2j42I)

Costner has never been highly rated for his acting, but damn the camera loves that guy. Also, he seems to have honed his craft over the years, and I appreciate that he gives a damn enough to work on it.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (EZWNE)

705 He just *had* to do American Beauty to ruin that.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:55 PM (ijEPD)

Yuck. Hate that POS. I liked Adaptation a lot, though. Also an example of how Nicolas Cage is very good with the right role and director.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (8qegj)

706 ''He was by all accounts, like James Garner, an all around decent guy.''

Little movie towards the end of his career that I liked was "Murphy's Romance" with Sally Field.

Posted by: Tuna at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (jm1YL)

707 I always loved Basil Rathbone.

He was supposed to be quite the party animal, along with his wife, Quida Bergere, a hillbilly from Arkansas that reinvented herself as Euro trash.

I think her real name was Eula

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 03:57 PM (+8+gB)

708 701 Worst casting - John Wayne as Genghis Khan.
Posted by: Vasily Balzfalov at August 18, 2019 03:56 PM (/dN1M)

Even worse - he cast *himself*.

And gave everyone cancer by filming it in Nevada during atomic bomb tests.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2019 03:58 PM (ijEPD)

Even The Most Well-Meaning Pundits Simply Don't Get Why We Have Trump

Daniel Pipes has a fine mind, and he often bucks the trends with regard to the Middle East. His knowledge of the Arab world and Islam makes him a worthwhile read.

But this time? I have no idea what the hell he is talking about, but he is far off the mark. My suspicion is that he has been immersed in the polite Right for too long, even though he disagrees with much of what they say about the dangers of militant Islam and Israel. But this is too much like a typical Acela pundit pontificating about OrangeManBad and accepting the reporting about the intense pressure that President Trump supposedly put on Netanyahu.
How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position

For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.
This is idiotic. Where he got this idea, assuming it didn't come out of a fever dream or a hash pipe, is beyond me.
Second, excluding Omar and Tlaib hands them a shiny new grudge to deploy against the Jewish state: its intolerance of criticism. Now in addition to alleging Israel's oppression of the Palestinians, the congresswomen can publicize their own personal maltreatment by Netanyahu. Permitting Tlaib to visit her grandmother will not change that fact.
These two rancid Jew-hating bitches don't need any assistance from anyone to continue their vendetta against Israel and Jews. It is laughable that Pipes even considers the possibility that these two harridans base their vile rhetoric on facts.

There's more in the article, and it is equally illogical and incoherent. Israel has the obvious right to exclude those who wish to agitate against the existence of the state, and an equally defensible right to exclude those who wish to create the conditions for civil unrest.

This is a rare misstep, and Mr. Pipes can do better.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 Firstest as always

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:18 PM (BbGew)

2 They know why we got Trump, they just don't like it so the act shitty.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (mpXpK)

3 I fetched em

Wait until they start saying Boris is a Trump puppet

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:20 PM (BbGew)

4 This trope is from the well-trod "acting against your enemies only makes them stronger" theory of international relations.

It's very popular among college freshman and those who happen to support the enemies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:24 PM (amw5z)

5 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.

House and Senate members routinely visit Israel. They could do one of these visits at any time. What they wanted was a license to do an Israeli version of the Mexican border visits. The Palestinians created their reality and insist on Israeli surrender to achieve redress. When you pick a fight and lose, crying "injustice" rings a little hollow.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 18, 2019 12:25 PM (XrCyE)

6 who?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (KP5rU)

7 Pipes is looking at it from a different angle than Trump. He buys into the idea that Trump told Benjamin what to do.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (z1Mr1)

8 It's very popular among college freshman and those who happen to support the enemies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:24 PM (amw5z)

Pipes is neither of those. It is a flawed analysis from a man who is usually pretty accurate in his assessments of geopolitical events and trends.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (wYseH)

9 Danial Pipes is a well respected writer (IMHO).

He doesn't often make mistakes like this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 12:27 PM (cqNba)

10 5 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.


Hahahahahahahaha snort hahahaha

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2019 12:27 PM (O2RFr)

11 Hash-Pipes?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 12:27 PM (z1Mr1)

12 This isn't the first thing Pipes has gotten wrong. Yes his batting average is good but he sometimes comes up with head scratchers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 12:27 PM (y7DUB)

13 ...the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something...

They were not going to Israel to learn anything.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 12:27 PM (aS1PU)

14 Pipes is neither of those. It is a flawed analysis from a man who is usually pretty accurate in his assessments of geopolitical events and trends.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (wYseH)

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I used to respect the legal acuity of Laurence Tribe but Trump drove him mad. I hope the same hasn't happened to Daniel Pipes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:28 PM (amw5z)

15 The fact their itinerary labeled it a trip to Palestine tells you everything you need to know about their motives, and just how capable these two Jew-hating c**ts are of "learning" anything at all.

Posted by: Pablo El Toro at August 18, 2019 12:28 PM (pPQeR)

16 11; more like sewer pipes. ah hell, they're all pipes. heard that on tv once.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 18, 2019 12:28 PM (KP5rU)

17 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.
...


Good grief.

Posted by: HA at August 18, 2019 12:29 PM (MAstk)

18 Working on making lunch so reading the link is taking time.

First off he assumes a Leftist can be swayed by reality.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:29 PM (BbGew)

19 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something....

I can count the number of times that's happened on one hand, the one I no longer have!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 18, 2019 12:30 PM (DCYln)

20 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.

Erm, what else you got, Dan?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:30 PM (amw5z)

21 How do you visit a country you don't think exists? How do you visit another country that really does not?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 12:30 PM (lwiT4)

22 Mr. Dildo, suggested fodder for a future thread.

UK now bans ads for promoting sexist stereotypes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49332640

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:31 PM (fuK7c)

23 17 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.

How? They were not gonna meet with anyone from the Israeli Gov. and they called Israel Palestine.. If that wasn't enough their trip was paid for by a known terrorist sympathizing group.
...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2019 12:31 PM (O2RFr)

24 My suspicion is that he has been immersed in the polite Right


That phrase brings back to mind what 'alt-Right' initially meant until the MSM and Establishment redefined it as 'racist.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 12:31 PM (oVJmc)

25 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.

The mathematical way to express this probability is with "when pigs fly" or "a snowball's chance in hell".

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 12:31 PM (DCYln)

26 We hate your country and wish to harm it.

Why don't you allow us to visit?

No, not going to learn anything.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 12:32 PM (dCRRg)

27 http://bit.ly/2MnUibV
*******
HUGE!... MUELLER TEAM LIED! Attorney for Joseph Mifsud Confirms He is Western Intelligence Operative -- And NOT a Russian Operative (VIDEO)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 12:33 PM (BqBId)

28 Everything they need to know about Israel they learned from Louis Farrakhan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:34 PM (amw5z)

29 Oh, by all means, give these two viscous pukes the benefit and allow them to go on a Jew-hating squawk-fest. Really, I am sick and tired that these shrews have become the front and center of every single event, now at an international level. It is disgusting.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 12:34 PM (9+jnX)

30 expecting towelwrappers to learn something that goes against the 'Holy Koran' (PTUI)?

may as well expect unclean pigs to fly

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 18, 2019 12:34 PM (RKQ/v)

31
For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.

The possibility exists that I'll find a pot of gold in my back yard. A very remote possibility.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 12:35 PM (aKsyK)

32 GFY

Posted by: Actual Shrews at August 18, 2019 12:35 PM (amw5z)

33


lol @ well meaning

They're all Shits.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 18, 2019 12:36 PM (+QKNe)

34
excluding Omar and Tlaib hands them a shiny new grudge to deploy against the Jewish state

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This was their plan all along. Let the gruesome twosome in to propagandize for BDS, or deny them and make them martyrs. If it's a lose-lose for Israel,
Israel might as well choose how it "loses."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:37 PM (13CQC)

35 The reasoning is very weak in this article. The logical fallacy I believe is called "appeal to unicorns". He could have just as easily written an article supporting the opposite of his conclusion.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 12:38 PM (nIvDu)

36 http://bit.ly/2MpUsiQ
*******
Scaramucci Goes Full Never-Trump: Calls Trump a Cult Leader and His Supporters Cultists (VIDEO)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 12:38 PM (BqBId)

37 I agree that Pipes is rock solid (usually) about Islam, but knee-jerk orangemanbad objections to Trump are to be expected. I haven't followed him recently, but am unsurprised... he's a think tank journalist on the "right," and therefore a card-carrying member of the Conservative Media Ecosystem™.

In-group preferences, social status, and business considerations dominate all other factors in that club, so anything with the slightest orange tinge to it will be roundly denounced in unison.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:39 PM (5aX2M)

38 Another point that Pipes misses -- Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib would have tried the same exact stunt against Israel even if Hillary Clinton were president. Therefore it's not Trump.

Posted by: Jussie at August 18, 2019 12:40 PM (786Ro)

39 CBD's comment about Pipes can be applied far more generally. I keep saying this but I am more convinced every day that mainstream pundits, ostensibly smart, still don't get why Trump won. The world is different now, and these people are stuck talking about a different universe.

Posted by: Richard Feynman, political analyst at August 18, 2019 12:40 PM (NVYyb)

40 /off sock

Posted by: Hands at August 18, 2019 12:41 PM (786Ro)

41 Scaramucci Goes Full Never-Trump: Calls Trump a Cult Leader and His Supporters Cultists (VIDEO)

All I know about Scaramucci is that he's still under investigation about the Fandango.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 12:41 PM (nIvDu)

42 Israel has the obvious right to exclude those who wish to agitate against the existence of the state, and an equally defensible right to exclude those who wish to create the conditions for civil unrest.

Also America.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 12:42 PM (LxTcq)

43 Scaramucci Goes Full Never-Trump: Calls Trump a Cult Leader and His Supporters Cultists (VIDEO)


**looks left, looks right, quickly blows out candles, covers up golden scalp weasel shrine with a tarp**

Posted by: Hands at August 18, 2019 12:42 PM (786Ro)

44 What a dope - his premise that Helms changed his position on Israel due to being "strongly affected" after a 1985 visit is in direct opposition to the VERY FIRST sentence in the Helms book he links:

"In 1984, people who were working against my reelection spread a rumor among my friends indicating that I was not supportive of Israel. Of course, nothing could have been farther from the truth, but until that time I had never had the opportunity to meet with pro-Siraelie leaders in the US. "
Helms goes on to recount the murderous nature of the Palis esp Arafat.

Pipes neglects the opportunity to also call out the lies of Dan rather in this endeavor as Rather lied on TV and said Helms trip was taxpayer-funded.


The whole article seems to be an excuse to exercise Pipe's TDS - starting with the ad-hominem that Trump is "emotional and unpredictable"

Lazy garbage writing

Posted by: batterup at August 18, 2019 12:43 PM (U2JQS)

45
Scumbag scaramoochi teamed up with the other scumbag loser omarosa last week on msnbc to talk shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 18, 2019 12:43 PM (+QKNe)

46 Does Scaramucci think he's defending Fredo? Fuck those guys in particular.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 12:43 PM (y7DUB)

47 Oh well, at least didn't try to claim Trump's tweet was an Article I violation on grounds of restraining legislative debate.

So the award for Stupidest Orangemanbad Hot Take of the Week still goes to Frum.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:43 PM (5aX2M)

48 When Mearsheimer published his antisemitic screed, along with that doofus Stephen Walt, who would have ever guessed his ideas were the future of the Demofascist party? Not me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, dog hikest at August 18, 2019 12:44 PM (NVYyb)

49 It reads like a writing assignment or debate position: Resolved: Netanyahu's Entrance Denial Is Bad.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 12:44 PM (Ydn2k)

50 Hillary would have tried to pressure Israel to take them

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:44 PM (BbGew)

51 @29 "these two viscous pukes"

Ewww. That's, like, the really runny kind, right?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (8ZmvG)

52 All I know about Scaramucci is that he's still under investigation about the Fandango.
Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 12:41 PM (nIvDu)


Well, he certainly cannot be accused of writing this fandango.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC9NHzt7s-c

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (aS1PU)

53 The possibility exists that Daniel Pipes might learn something real about why Trump won by attending a MoMe.

Posted by: Hands at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (786Ro)

54 "18 Working on making lunch so reading the link is taking time.



First off he assumes a Leftist can be swayed by reality.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:29 PM (BbGew)
"
..That's pretty ironic considering that modern "progressivism" is a cult built around the notion that reality doesn't exist, therefore all you have to do to make something "true" is to hold your breath, grunt, and imagine harder than the next guy.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (67XdO)

55 As a comparison imagine in late 1939 that a couple of pro-NAZI congresswoman wanted to go to France. Should France have been forced to let them in?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 12:46 PM (WdocV)

56 If Trump didn't go around pissing everyone off we'd all be a lot happier.

Posted by: Ben "Baby Snark" Sharpiro at August 18, 2019 12:47 PM (Tnijr)

57 If we want to talk about real outrages, how about our "ally" Britain refusing to let American/Canadian citizens visit because they are political conservatives?

Or better yet them arresting a British citizen for the crime of reporting news the British State Media want to squelch.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 12:48 PM (WdocV)

58
Pipes is looking at it from a different angle than Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (z1Mr1)

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yeah: he has his head in his ass.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 12:48 PM (SEclx)

59 Willowed:

Any books or thoughts hordians?

Cheriebebe


Any book or video by Dr. Scott Hahn. He is great at explaining Christ's meaning and reality.

Also, Death on a Friday Afternoon by the late Father Richard John Neuhaus. It is very philosophical, but also excellent at describing and explaining the How and Why of Christ's redemptive mission.
Posted by: Sharkman

Posted by: Sharkman at August 18, 2019 12:49 PM (bQngX)

60 51
@29 "these two viscous pukes"

Ewww. That's, like, the really runny kind, right?


Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (8ZmvG)

+++
LOL. Should have been "vicious". But the other works, too. Both words rather tame as I would be banned from the internet to say what is really on my mind.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 12:49 PM (9+jnX)

61 The possibility exists that Daniel Pipes might learn something real about why Trump won by attending a MoMe.

Posted by: Hands at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (786Ro)

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he can score the targets

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 12:49 PM (SEclx)

62 If Trump didn't go around pissing everyone off we'd all be a lot happier.
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The amusing thing here is I am pissed Trump isn't doing enough of that. For example, President 18-1 would have responded to the courts by ordering the re-printing of the last census form that had the citizenship question on it verbatim.


If the SC still screamed I'd still John "Souter" Roberts that if he wanted to set the agenda for the executive agencies he was welcome to run for president.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 12:50 PM (WdocV)

63 Or better yet them arresting a British citizen for the crime of reporting news the British State Media want to squelch.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 12:48 PM (WdocV)


The Beeb has always been Exhibit A of an unfree press. So the Uniparty had to create a domestic equivalent.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 12:51 PM (y7DUB)

64 "For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have
learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to
Israel.'
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A very smart man I worked with was explaining to his daughter how if you start off with 1+1=3, no matter how meticulous your theories are afterward it is all wrong.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 18, 2019 12:51 PM (pw+jk)

65 Daniel Pipes might learn something real about why Trump won by attending a MoMe.

I could see both parties would enjoying that time together. Imagine the shock and horror, though, that a George Will would experience, getting duct-taped to the bar with his bowtie dunked in a glass of commoner beer.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 12:52 PM (nIvDu)

66 From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from
the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. 49"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.-- Luke 12:49-51

Posted by: SMOD at August 18, 2019 12:53 PM (e8kgV)

67 Scaramucci Goes Full Never-Trump: Calls Trump a Cult Leader and His Supporters Cultists (VIDEO)





Brilliant move there Fredo. All of these Never Trumpers will do or say anything to try to remain relevant. They must be too stupid to know that the lefties ass they are kissing will discard them like yesterday's papers once their usefulness is done.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 12:53 PM (GOcZA)

68 "Appeal to unicorns."

Oh, I say. Well categorized indeed.
That right there is what "Analytical Philosophy" ought to be all about.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 18, 2019 12:54 PM (8ZmvG)

69 John "Souter" Roberts

Has that weak kneed excuse for a Chief Justice said one fucking thing about the threat by the Senate extortionists?

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 12:54 PM (y7DUB)

70 The possibility exists that Daniel Pipes might learn something real about why Trump won by attending a MoMe.


Orange Man still makes me cringe sometimes, but what keeps me in his camp is them attacking his supporters.

His base are my peeps. You're telling me that all of my friends are wrongpeople. Upon reflection, fuck that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:54 PM (fuK7c)

71 I don't know much about the protocols and traditions on these things, but it seems our representatives either go on a personal level (seeing mom was allowed) or they go representing the US (if they are making public appearances or pushing a political stance).


Just from the US (POTUS) stance, they should not be going to take political action against an ally (and worse than "against", they are in bed with the terrorists, more or less). The do no get to (ethically?, legally?) obstruct POTUS foreign policy, especially in undermining a key ally.


From the Israel side, even more direct reason not to allow them to come under the shield of representing the US, when in fact they are subversive against US policy (and acting as an enemy to Israel).

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 12:56 PM (Cus5s)

72 At some point Trump will have to defy the judiciary or agree to let them run the show.

I was in favor of rubbing their noses in the census precisely because most people wouldn't object besides the hard Left and the cucks, who object to everything.

The judiciary are terrified to the soles of their feet by a defiant legislature or executive. All it would take is for him to ignore them on one of these small matters, and they'd shut their traps and be on their best behavior for the rest of his administration.

Democrats understand the fundamental weakness of these people... it's why they are publicly threatening them lately.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:57 PM (5aX2M)

73 Pipes is wrong. If allowed in, they would have learned nothing, their trip was solely for anti-Jewish propaganda and would have led to criticism of Israel regardless.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 12:57 PM (bUjCl)

74 may as well expect unclean pigs to fly

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 18, 2019 12:34 PM (RKQ/v)

I've known pigs that smell cleaner than a muzzie broad I encountered.

Posted by: Grannymimi at August 18, 2019 12:58 PM (u5LFV)

75 73 Pipes is wrong. If allowed in, they would have learned nothing, their trip was solely for anti-Jewish propaganda and would have led to criticism of Israel regardless.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 12:57 PM (bUjCl)

Bingo. You don't let a venomous snake into your house in hopes it'll learn to play nice with people.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 12:58 PM (NWiLs)

76 Pipes should review the parable of "The Frog and the Scorpion." He could learn much about the muzzie scum from that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 18, 2019 01:01 PM (pw+jk)

77

I couldn't pick David Pipes out of a line up.

Who cares what he says.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 18, 2019 01:01 PM (+QKNe)

78 Pipes is in journalism. In order to stay in journalism, be considered a respected author by all the right people and not be lumped with "alt-far-right", he is forced to dance this dance, where he has to show "balanced view". Someday these people will need to figure out a way to do it without compromising own sanity.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:02 PM (bUjCl)

79 ""For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have
learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to
Israel.""



Right, and I'm going to become a jazz musician. Nothing less than a smoking crater where Israel used to be would diminish their hostility,

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 01:02 PM (9Om/r)

80 P.S. I love the "Baby Snark" sobriquet.

Fits Shapiro like a glove.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:02 PM (5aX2M)

81 Oh boy oh boy oh boy!

We had corn for dinner last night!

My poop has a color scheme! And texture!

Posted by: Kurt at August 18, 2019 01:03 PM (ljFsL)

82 Bashing and insulting the other side, as in "basket-full of deplorables," "knuckle dragging Neanderthals," "cultists," "ignoramuses who couldn't find Greenland on a world map," etc. seems to me a unlikely way of obtaining the vote for your side, but maybe I am not savvy enough to understand the winning strategy in the political game.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 18, 2019 01:03 PM (9+jnX)

83 Yeah, weird offshoot thoughts from Pipes, generally a logical and reasonable writer. But he must know those two hideous fustylug klazomanics would rather kill him as soon as look at him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 18, 2019 01:03 PM (r+sAi)

84
What I don't get is why Pipes and others seem to believe that muslims don't take their horrible religion seriously at all.

I mean, I get it. The sun enters a puddle of mud at night and that's reality cuz that's what the koran sez, but c'mon, man.

Just cuz you don't take you're religion all that seriously doesn't mean that they don't.

And if you're a muslim, well, you're pretty much instructed by your prophet to hate and/or kill Jews.

There no disconnect there.

Are Omar and Talib as devote muslims (as they claim) more likely to follow the teachings of mohammed or more likely to follow Pipes', et al dreamcasting?

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 01:04 PM (mIQCW)

85 Who cares what he says.
Also, Ingmar Bergman never made a movie with John Wayne in it. OK then.

Yeah, "The Frog and The Scorpion" would be instructive, but now that we know this one thing about him, I'd rather tie him down and have him listen to PDJT read the lyrics of "The Snake" a hundred times. Should cure him.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 18, 2019 01:04 PM (8ZmvG)

86 One very important thing to keep in mind - no one objects to Trump because of his "crudeness".


Obama told his followers to get in the face of their "enemies" and to bring metaphorical weapons to deal with them. He made casual racial slurs. He called Hillary Clinton a pig. He gave the audience the finger, and on and on.


Bill Clinton was famously a rapist, which they knew, and many on the left lined up to say they'd personally sexually satisfy him if that was what was needed.


So spare me Trump saying someone has a weight issue or calling the animals in MS-13 animals as some sort of beyond the pale statements.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 01:05 PM (WdocV)

87 Daniel Pipes



Oh Danny boy
the pipes the pipes are calling

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 01:06 PM (GOcZA)

88 When my poop tastes like corn
And my dog's tongue is warm
That's a fredo...

Posted by: Kurt at August 18, 2019 01:06 PM (ljFsL)

89 On a lighter note: August 17, 1943 General George S. Patton won the race to Messina against Monty Mongomery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz9lOuw_DhU


His speak pattern and word choice is reminiscent of one of our current leaders....hmmm.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 18, 2019 01:07 PM (xcd1u)

90 When you call Trump a cult
and his voters insult
That's a Fredo

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 01:08 PM (LxTcq)

91 M-O-O-N spells wrong Mr. Pipes. Even I can see that.

Posted by: Tom Cullen at August 18, 2019 01:09 PM (5v5Zx)

92 >>Scaramucci Goes Full Never-Trump: Calls Trump a Cult Leader and His Supporters Cultists


That ugly little freak is just pissed Eric Trump stole his ride.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2019 01:09 PM (mHgYT)

93 Posted by: Kurt at August 18, 2019 01:03 PM (ljFsL)


Or...


We could choose the unconditional surrender and government mandated decline of the middle and working classes offered by the Democrats and their socialist agenda as well as the abolition of our nation due to open borders.

Hmmm.

What a difficult choice.


Oh, wait. That's not difficult at all.


I'll take Trump. Every. Single. Time.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 01:09 PM (mIQCW)

94 Whoops, Don Jr.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2019 01:09 PM (mHgYT)

95 Youtuber Distributist talks about the roles of leadership that conservatives do not pursue

https://youtu.be/z3ktYIkzS0I

If you are worried about 2024 after Trump then this is for you.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 01:09 PM (LxTcq)

96 When Obama said "they bring a knife you bring a gun" he wasn't being metaphorical. It was part of his ongoing plan to sow race/class division and violence.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 18, 2019 01:10 PM (xcd1u)

97 The possibility exists that I'll wake up tomorrow morning and discover that I've been named Czar of All the Russias.

Nonetheless, I'm not going to spend any time picking out new drapes for the Winter Palace.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:10 PM (b1Typ)

98 Let's see...

The left wants full on socialism, thought and speech controls, open borders, and the extermination of "whiteness".


Trump says mean things.


Oh, that's a tough choice right there.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2019 01:11 PM (WdocV)

99 there is a broader effort by the left to coordinate with foreign nations (friends and foes) ... "just wait out Trump and WE (DeepStateMafia) will get back to selling out USA in short order. And maybe you can even help us get rid of Trump."


All these actions (Kerry, others in the resistance) are subversives, perhaps committing real treason (we are on a war footing still, against terrorists ... Iran should be on that list, and in the 4G Warfare perspective, China and others as well. There is a coordinated subversive effort ... they are the terrorists ... hang em high.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 01:12 PM (Cus5s)

100 Pipes' rationale:

Nice job you got there, Daniel. Be a shame if something happened to it.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 18, 2019 01:13 PM (m79Dg)

101 No, Mr. Pipes, they expect you to die.

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at August 18, 2019 01:13 PM (r+sAi)

102 His speak pattern and word choice is reminiscent of one of our current leaders....hmmm.


His voice is surprisingly thin and reedy. Think what he could have done if he sounded like George C. Scott.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:13 PM (fuK7c)

103 Anyone ever make pee ice cubes? They are great in my mom's lemonaide.

Posted by: Kurt at August 18, 2019 01:14 PM (ljFsL)

104 Trump has had the lightest touch with Israel of any President. Bush and particularly Obama were quite heavyhanded by comparison.

How does a tweeted suggestion from a super-friendly president like Trump put Netanyahu in any kind of "untenable" position? What did he have to lose, if he chose to ignore Trump and let these scrunts in?

Nothing.

Trump just provided him with diplomatic cover for something he likely wanted to do anyway.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:14 PM (5aX2M)

105
Posted by: Kurt


Your sister's glove.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 18, 2019 01:15 PM (+QKNe)

106 98. You are a funny guy. Pinches your facial cheek and shakes it.

Posted by: Throbbing Tonsil at August 18, 2019 01:15 PM (9PtLS)

107 Who farted?

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 18, 2019 01:16 PM (aS1PU)

108 Posted by: Kurt at August 18, 2019 01:03 PM

Like father, like son. The acorn don't fall too far from the tree.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 01:16 PM (DMUuz)

109 Kurt is smart. Not dumb like everybody says!

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 18, 2019 01:16 PM (cknjq)

110 Bush was harsher on Israel than Obama, IMHO. Yes, bo hated, but practically ? not much. Bush put a ton of pressure. But not as much as pappy.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:16 PM (bUjCl)

111 Posted by: Kurt at August 18, 2019 01:14 PM (ljFsL)


Or...


We could have completely open borders with the Democrats destroying Social security and the social safety net by shoveling it toward illegal aliens who never have and never will pay for anything.

As the citizen who have paid in get less and less and finally nothing.


Hmmmm.

What to choose.


That's a puzzler.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 01:17 PM (mIQCW)

112 102 His speak pattern and word choice is reminiscent of one of our current leaders....hmmm.
-----------------------------------------------

His voice is surprisingly thin and reedy. Think what he could have done if he sounded like George C. Scott.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:13 PM (fuK7c)


Yes, also straightforward and plain; no mincing of words.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 18, 2019 01:18 PM (xcd1u)

113 I am supremely convinced that Linda Graham is a complete moron

She just reads shit on the net and then repeats it on the air

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 01:19 PM (+8+gB)

114 Seems there is a troll in need of a shine box.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 01:19 PM (BLFnH)

115 GHWB surrounded himself with jooooo haters. It wasn't by accident.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 01:19 PM (y7DUB)

116 Skull and Bones runs deep.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 18, 2019 01:20 PM (xcd1u)

117
Trump didn't instruct the Israelis to do anything. They came up with this response on their own. The Harpy Excursion is not the Israeli's first rodeo. Celebrities wanting to visit and stir up shit is so common that the Israelis passed a law for this specific situation, which they invoked to keep
the slags out.

It was the obvious, sensible, and predictable thing for them to do.

Trump informed them after the fact that he had no problem with it.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 18, 2019 01:21 PM (t5m5e)

118 GHWB surrounded himself with jooooo haters. It wasn't by accident.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 01:19 PM (y7DUB)


Arabists. Oil men.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:21 PM (bUjCl)

119 Kurt is just waiting for 2 fingers of Don with a sick twist of leMon

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 01:21 PM (+8+gB)

120

Bush was/is a fake Christian.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 18, 2019 01:21 PM (+QKNe)

121 Pipes took the blue pill.
Not the orange one.

Posted by: snufflelupagus at August 18, 2019 01:22 PM (TO8Xm)

122 Oh, look, it's sKwurt with a non sequitur.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 01:22 PM (oVJmc)

123
Every time a Wounded Warriors tv ad comes on, I want
to smash George Bush's stupid face.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 18, 2019 01:23 PM (+QKNe)

124 Pipes wasn't being paid to be better than that.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 18, 2019 01:23 PM (ABuva)

125 One very important thing to keep in mind - no one objects to Trump because of his "crudeness".



I have a friend who is kind of a RINO who voted for Kasich in the primaries, and he gave me this very reason why is he not sure if he can vote for Trump. I asked him about externals, like the economy and such, and he was happy. My advice was you're voting for results, not for a person you like.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 01:23 PM (AkkRZ)

126 hmm, hasn't been about a year since mcstain kicked the bucket? Wonder how he and the swimmer are liking the heat down there?

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 01:23 PM (BLFnH)

127 Some good things came out of pappy's tenure, as far as Israel/Pali conflict. Madrid conference.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:24 PM (bUjCl)

128 Bush was harsher on Israel than Obama, IMHO. Yes, bo hated, but practically ? not much. Bush put a ton of pressure. But not as much as pappy.
Posted by: runner at August 18,

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I take your point , what with the Road Map. But Obama threatened to intervene militarily against Israel on behalf of Iran. It's actually a tough call, as to who interfered more.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:25 PM (5aX2M)

129 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 01:22 PM (oVJmc)

Or your faithful coblogger with a few minutes on his hands...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2019 01:25 PM (wYseH)

130 I find Pipes wrong more often than not. Par for the course.

Posted by: nip at August 18, 2019 01:27 PM (RXwUQ)

131 I wish Marv Rosenthal would "redo" a tape he made when he was heading up the Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry.

How Israel Became a Nation.

I used to own a copy.

Short version of one of many things in it...

It's 1948. Israel is about to declare herself a nation.
The "Palestinians", who ended up refugees, are told by the surrounding Arab nations to leave and, when we finish destroying Israel, you can go back and have your land and your neighbors land too.

Many left.

Didn't quite work out for em.

The surrounding nations could have easily absorbed them but nooooo. Better to keep them living in squalor, mostly due to their own leadership, so others can point at them and say "See, see how terrible Israel is!"

Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 01:28 PM (A9A9H)

132 Some grandma is some mother-in-law too.

Posted by: Rapapo at August 18, 2019 01:28 PM (W5wR3)

133 http://www.danielpipes.org/16834/why-i-just-quit-the-gop

This guy?

He thinks Trump is a scary neo-fascist.

This is NOT a rare misstep. The guy is eGOP another George Will type.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 01:28 PM (ltuaO)

134 bo's efforts backfired and led to a "sunni-Israel" axis of sorts. Actuayly, that was sort of started by king Abdullah after 9-11. Gotta love the house of Saud. Very practical.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:29 PM (bUjCl)

135 133-thank you

Posted by: nip at August 18, 2019 01:29 PM (RXwUQ)

136 actually, that is.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:29 PM (bUjCl)

137 Was convinced for 8 years Barky hated Jews, nothing has ever changed that.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 01:30 PM (BbGew)

138 "Even The Most Well-Meaning Pundits Simply Don't Get Why We Have Trump"

Revised to improve agreement with reality:

"Especially The Most Silver-Tongued of Pundits Simply Can't Admit Why We Have Trump"

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 18, 2019 01:31 PM (e5/cJ)

139 133-thank you

Posted by: nip at August 18, 2019 01:29 PM (RXwUQ)

I have never understood the respect these empty suits get.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 18, 2019 01:32 PM (ltuaO)

140 If Trump told anything to Netanyahu, it would be the let the loonies in, not to stop them from visiting, if only for optics.

Posted by: Rapapo at August 18, 2019 01:32 PM (9/wag)

141 This is NOT a rare misstep. The guy is eGOP another George Will type.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August

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Wow. I said I was unsurprised by his orangemanbad virtue signalling, but that's rich. He's as over the top as Max Boot or Tom Nichols.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:32 PM (5aX2M)

142 17 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel.
...

A committed lottery player, I'll wager... and that's NOT a long-shot!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 18, 2019 01:34 PM (e5/cJ)

143 Per their "Palestinian" schedule, they only planned on speaking w fellow travelers. How would there be a possibility of change in an echo chamber?

Posted by: Ever at August 18, 2019 01:34 PM (uFCZe)

144 Yea, Kurt got the MUMRban.

CodeLearningWise I wonder how many responses there are?
Does anyone besides ace write them.
Do they repeat?
Are they aimable by miscreant hash?

Posted by: DaveA at August 18, 2019 01:35 PM (FhXTo)

145 For starters, the possibility exists that the congresswomen would have learned something during their travels to diminish their hostility to Israel. 

---------

The possibility exists that The Nationals will sign me to a multiyear multimillion dollar contract at 55 too.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 01:36 PM (flINI)

146 I thought the message from the President to the Israeli government was in a Tweet but could be wrong on that.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 01:36 PM (BbGew)

147 Ew I just learned that the movie "Grease" is "Vaselina" in Spanish.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 01:37 PM (Tnijr)

148 A committed lottery player, I'll wager... and that's NOT a long-shot!

The thing about lotteries is that people really have won.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 01:37 PM (Ydn2k)

149 Or your faithful coblogger with a few minutes on his hands...

Well disregard my prior questions and carry on Good Sir.

Posted by: DaveA at August 18, 2019 01:37 PM (FhXTo)

150 For all his faults, and I suspect WASPy type anti-semitism, I , grudgingly, respect Jim Baker's diplomatic chops. He was one of the more effective diplomats of the post-war period.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:38 PM (bUjCl)

151 The Gateway Pundit is fvcking clickbait.

Also did you know the GP and The Hill share the same Disqus filters? (bans, keywords, etc)

Posted by: Rapapo at August 18, 2019 01:39 PM (/M/Zj)

152 Plus, he helped to cut like a razor throught algore's bs and put an end to hanging chads.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:39 PM (bUjCl)

153 love the house of Saud. Very practical.

While we're on this side of the Genocide solution anyways.

Posted by: DaveA at August 18, 2019 01:40 PM (FhXTo)

154 Wait, he was sort of present during 2016 election too. Don't remember in what capacity, though.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:41 PM (bUjCl)

155 Ew I just learned that the movie "Grease" is "Vaselina" in Spanish.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 01:37 PM (Tnijr)



Vaselina is also Kurt's stage name when he goes to sing at open mike night at the Sausage to Taco Bar.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 01:41 PM (mIQCW)

156 Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 01:36 PM (BbGew)

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Yeah, he basically just tweeted "Pffft... Bib, you should just brush off these h8rz."

That's all he did.

I did like how he said Tlaib's grandma is the real winner in all of this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:42 PM (5aX2M)

157 152 Plus, he helped to cut like a razor throught algore's bs and put an end to hanging chads.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:39 PM (bUjCl)


The only decent thing he did. And it wasn't out of decency that he did that. He is the chair of some liberal university think tank today.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 18, 2019 01:43 PM (wXw18)

158 @155

🤣 🤣 🤣

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 01:45 PM (bUjCl)

159 Vaselina is also Kurt's stage name when he goes to sing at open mike night at the Sausage to Taco Bar.





Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 01:41 PM (mIQCW)

Only because "Todd' was already signed up.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 18, 2019 01:45 PM (5v5Zx)

160 Remind us all again why we are supposed to give credence to ANY PUNDIT who writes ANYTHING or bloviates on any site or TV show?
Just look at the half wits who show up daily,some repeats,who will say anything for a buck because HONEST TOIL is beyond their ken.
They are basically willow the wisps,gone with the breeze,while the BIG DOGS get major bucks each Sunday,in particular, and on CNN et al daily.
They all get "TITLES" Senior Dick head for political white house bafflegab" and their minions have to parade in strikingly tight cocktail attire,while the male ANCHOR!! (good title) says thanks Ginger nice to see you again as he tamps down his boner....

THIS IS NEWS...................Maury Povtich gives out more news,than these lock step puppets.
Nightly we watch these INDEPENDENT channels repeat the same stories non really newsworthy taking shots at Trump for 10 minutes then on to B>S crap nonesense......who watches this Hmm prolly 49% Demos,in RAPTURE...see I told you so BOB!!!.

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 01:46 PM (5IHGB)

161 The more I think about it, these Appeals To Unicorns are the ones the GOPe and judges fall for every time. It's the checkmate move.

"The possibility exists" that Russia swung the election for Trump so he wouldn't be convicted of having a hooker pee on him. Gotta investigate that, right?

"The possibility exists" that baby harbor seals might beginning snorting cocaine with a discarded plastic straw.

"The possibility exists" that a spotted owl would be harmed by building The Wall.

"The possibility exists" that we were too harsh on Maurice Hill by arresting him. He might turn himself around!

Etc., etc.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 01:51 PM (98WNR)

162
Found Trump's tweet... I laughed.

https://tinyurl.com/y248rdr8

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:51 PM (5aX2M)

163 it's not that they don't get why we have Trump, or that they refuse to understand why we have Trump...

the problem is more fundamental than that: people like Trump are simply NOT supposed to be elected officials.

he is the wrong sort, of the wrong class, hasn't got the proper credentials and punches on his tickets, is crude, rude and refuses to play the game by the well established rules.

*that's* what they hate most about Trump.

(besides him being successful in the position, of course)

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 01:53 PM (SEclx)

164 La Vaselina es La Palabra.

Posted by: Juan Travolta at August 18, 2019 01:53 PM (Ydn2k)

165 YD, The Golden Scalp Weasel is the ultimate bait set up for these idiots. May be time to watch this again,


https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=jNjuu0blPmI

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 01:55 PM (BLFnH)

166 That ugly little freak is just pissed Eric Trump stole his ride.
Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2019 01:09 PM (mHgYT)
~~~~~

Yeah. Scaramucci is scum.

He cheated on his pregnant wife, was hated by everyone who had to work for him in the WH, and has turned on Trump because his China deals are hurt by PDTs trade policies there.

There is not a single redeeming quality I can think of for this dirtbag.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 01:56 PM (sGotD)

167 We need a recession, God damnit!!!

Posted by: Sunday New York Times at August 18, 2019 01:57 PM (cFmc+)

168 Huh. Tinyurl didn't work.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/
status/1162493654432460801

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:58 PM (5aX2M)

169 There is not a single redeeming quality I can think of for this dirtbag.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 01:56 PM


Eventual agricultural supplement potential?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 01:59 PM (DMUuz)

170 The sooner we understand that the United States is NOT a serious country, the better.

Everyone take out their passports - you know, those things you have to present to an immigration official at each country you visit upon crossing the border. Look for the page with the rules, regulations, advice for travelers, and so on. On that page, it will tell you that in a foreign country, you are subject to its laws.

This also means (!) that, contrary to American thinking, you have no automatic right to visit a foreign country.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 18, 2019 01:59 PM (WDnN1)

171 Worked for me YD.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 02:01 PM (BLFnH)

172 #GoatHateHasNoHomeHere

Posted by: Little Omar at August 18, 2019 02:02 PM (EgshT)

173 Eventual agricultural supplement potential?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 01:59 PM (DMUuz)
~~~~~

Okay. That.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 02:03 PM (sGotD)

174 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 01:51 PM (5aX2M)

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link fail

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 02:03 PM (SEclx)

175 Seen as a reply on Trump's Twitter feed:

In 2016, Trump voters were Deplorable

In 2017, Trump voters were Russians

In 2018, Trump voters were Nazis

In 2019, Trump voters are wittingly or unwittingly, white supremacists.

The people calling you these things would like you to vote for them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 02:04 PM (+0VWg)

176 He cheated on his pregnant wife

What kind of douchebag would do such a thing?

Posted by: The Silky Pony at August 18, 2019 02:04 PM (EgshT)

177 173
Eventual agricultural supplement potential?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 01:59 PM (DMUuz)

~~~~~



Okay. That./

Nope. Toxic levels of sleaze.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:04 PM (T6t7i)

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:04 PM (T6t7i)

179 Has that weak kneed excuse for a Chief Justice said one fucking thing about the threat by the Senate extortionists?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 12:54 PM (y7DUB)

Mr. Roberts, the high school student council president? No, but I'm sure he's really worried that if he followed the Constitution in his rulings, that it would end his time on the DC cocktail circuit and otherwise stop his DC social life, which he clearly sees as far more important, as befitting a high schooler who never grew up.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 18, 2019 02:05 PM (WDnN1)

180 'Sup, y'all?

Posted by: Weasel at August 18, 2019 02:05 PM (MVjcR)

181 the replies are hysterical....

unhinged, insane, but hysterical.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 02:06 PM (SEclx)

182 Nood.

Posted by: pep at August 18, 2019 02:06 PM (T6t7i)

183
We need a recession, God damnit!!!

Posted by: Sunday New York Times at August 18, 2019 01:57 PM (cFmc+)



CNBC and Bloomberg: We're headed into one right now!!!!! And every day we'll blather on and on about a slowing economy no matter what the numbers say

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 02:07 PM (t0WdV)

184 willowed again

Posted by: The Silky Pony at August 18, 2019 02:07 PM (EgshT)

185 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7368429

Lord Mountbottom ... rum sodomy and the lash ... seemed to have fulfilled the second requirement anyhow.

Some creepy pictures of him with Charles.


Posted by: Off the reservation at August 18, 2019 02:07 PM (vWMNq)

186 Posted by: Rapapo at August 18, 2019 01:39 PM (/M/Zj)
*******
& it is linked to another site Numbnuts

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (BqBId)

187

Watching a 1954 Disney movie "Davy Crockett: King of the Wild Frontier on the INSP channel on cable. They are censoring out the word "injun."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (aKsyK)

188 As I understand it, Israel has a law that mandates denying visas to the twats. Ignoring the law would be a major ask of Netanyahu that would require some positive inducement.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 18, 2019 02:12 PM (yQpMk)

189 Eventual agricultural supplement potential?

An actual term for that is "soil amendments", which is high-falutin' for cow shit.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 02:15 PM (lK7fO)

190
Watching a 1954 Disney movie "Davy Crockett: King of the Wild Frontier on the INSP channel on cable. They are censoring out the word "injun."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (aKsyK)

Just bought a copy of The Jerk on DVD. It's not even a personal favorite, I mean I like it well enough, but there are much funnier flicks out there. I just have a hunch movies like that will be wiped out pretty quickly. I also bought Back To School with the great one, Rodney Dangerfield.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 18, 2019 02:29 PM (1b0OH)

191
Watching a 1954 Disney movie "Davy Crockett: King of
the Wild Frontier on the INSP channel on cable. They are censoring out
the word "injun."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 02:09 PM (aKsyK)


If they are soooo offended by it then don't show the movie, but don't butcher it to fit their precious sensibilities.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 02:33 PM (p+3oP)

192 Commie demands that these twotwats be allowed into Israel sounds a lot like Commie demands that people should be allowed to inject themselves with Fentanyl laced heroin.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 18, 2019 02:58 PM (e1mEI)

193 Greetings:

"Two Congress-bitches of colors" works for me.

Posted by: 11B40 at August 18, 2019 03:15 PM (evgyj)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 08-18-2019

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Biblioteca Universitaria di Bologna, Italy


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), secret agents, sleeper agents, double agents, travel agents, Indian agents, and, the worst of them all, insurance agents. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, writing, and publishing by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which should be proof enough that not all yoga pants are hot and sexy.



Pic Note

The University of Bologna's library appears to be bigger and more grand than your average library:

It is worth remembering that in addition to the Library’s enormous wealth of written and printed heritage – now amounting to over 1.250.000 volumes – it also comprises an art collection made up of over 400 portraits of illustrious figures, while 16th century frescoes, only recently restored, make the library an even greater visual feast for its visitors.

Boy, I'll say.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

The German word VORFÜHREFFEKT—literally, ‘the demonstration effect’—refers to a situation in which something stops working, and then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.

Oddly enough, I am comforted by the fact that somebody actually invented a word to describe this phenomenon.




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Discover Conservative Fiction Authors

One of my Twitter followers maintains a list on her site of books written by right-leaning authors. This is the intro:

The writers listed here are conservative and libertarian. While many of their novels are apolitical, you will never find liberal snark in their work, and you will find some real gems of political philosophy in the pages of many.

The list is here. Some of the authors will no doubt be familiar to you, but there will be new. Here is one that caught my eye, Attack of the 50-Foot Democrats, which is probably worth reading just for the title alone:

A power-hungry billionaire dreams of re-shaping America into a perfect society of his leftist ideals. A mad scientist is working on a serum he believes will drastically improve the human race. An idealistic Republican Senator is ready to retire, having despaired of turning the tide of his beloved country’s decline. A charismatic President, on the verge of easy re-election, just wants to read his teleprompter and bask in the media’s adulation. However, when an impetuous Democrat politician gets his hands on a vial of not-quite-perfected “miracle” serum, everyone’s plans are, quite literally, torn apart.Follow a small band of patriots as they try to save their country from the double threat of physical destruction and leftist takeover in this over-the-top hilarious hybrid of 50’s horror movies and modern political satire.

$4.99 for the Kindle edition is not a bad price.



They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:

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Recommended Podcast

A lurker e-mails:

The John Batchelor podcast includes a lot of great book reviews on major historical events as well as biographies. Overall it’s must listening on a daily basis.

You can access the John Batchelor podcast here.



Who Dis:

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Books by Morons

A lurker writes:

I'm an old scribbler, been writing for over fifty years. One of my books had a brief moment in the sun, that was Carl Melcher Goes to Vietnam, named a 2001 Frankfurt eBook Award finalist.

Here's his book, Carl Melcher Goes to Vietnam:

The year is 1968. Like thousands of other American boys, Carl Melcher is drafted and sent to Vietnam. His new company is infected with the same racial tensions plaguing the nation. Despite that, Carl makes friends on both sides of the color line. The war, like a tiger lurking in the bushes, picks off its victims one by one. Naively over-optimistic, Carl believes that karma and good intentions will save him and his friends. Then fate intervenes to teach Carl something of the meaning of life, and death.

...Crossing Over (a novella), tells the story of an ordinary American family forced to take to their camper and flee to the Canadian border as the second American civil war breaks out.

Crossing Over is

Set some time in the not-too-distant future, the existence of two simultaneous presidents has split the country along ideological lines.

The idea that there could be two presidents is disturbingly plausible. Particularly since the progressives have demonstrated their absolute refusal to accept election results. It would be just like them to declare their own President. The only question is how would they make it stick.

The protests are becoming violent, sections of the country have formed their own militias, along with the militias of the two warring parties. In the midst of shortages of food and other necessities, gangs and thugs are terrorizing formerly safe neighborhoods. Realizing that it is no longer safe to remain in their home, Mike McNerney decides to pack the camper and flee to Canada with his wife, Marie, and disabled teenage daughter, Elly. Unfortunately, everyone else has the same idea...Clayton’s premise is chillingly realistic. The book does not focus on the politics, but instead focuses on regular Americans who not long before led totally normal lives, and who are quickly turned into refugees as they try to escape the crime and violence taking over the country.

If we're going to have Civil War 2.0, this might be what it looks like.

The other, Talk to a Real, Live Girl, is a sci-fi collection. The title tale is a novella about the intersection of the #MeToo moment and the rise of the sexbots, in a distant future. NOTE: there is no gratuitous sex in this story. It is a good positive tale for young men, an actual love story, with action and suspense. Two other sci-fi tales complete the book, and a 'bonus' story.

Talk to a Real, Live Girl: And Other Stories is 2.99 on Kindle. The Amazon blurb says:

A genuine love story, Talk to a Real, Live Girl explores consequences of a #MeToo movement run amok, and of adaptations brave individuals may be forced to make.

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Moron Recommendations

71 On the Kindle I finished Charbonneau: Man of Two Dreams by Wil Blevins. Jean Baptiste Charbonneau was born to Sacajawea and a French fur trapper. As an infant he traveled with the Lewis and Clark expedition. At the age of six he was left in St. Louis with William Clark who was governor of Missouri. Charbonneau was raised in society and received a Jesuit education. At 18 he met the Duke of Wurttenberg and traveled with him to Germany to help the Duke with his book about America. He continued his education there and found he had a talent for music. After six years he returned to the United States and entered the fur trade. Soon he was in the mountains of the West and and met with his mother's band of the Shoshone. Charbonneau led an interesting life and Blevins wrote an excellent account of it.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 28, 2019 09:34 AM (wuQ4y)

$4.99 for the Kindle edition of Charbonneau: Man of Two Dreams is a mighty reasonable price.

Charbonneau became an American explorer, guide, fur trapper-trader, military scout during the Mexican-American War, alcalde (mayor) of Mission San Luis Rey de Francia, and a gold prospector and hotel operator in Northern California. He spoke French and English, and learned German and Spanish during his six years in Europe. He also spoke Shoshone and other western Native American languages, which he learned first from his family and then during his years of trapping and guiding.

'Larger than life' is probably not an exaggerated description of him.

___________

340 Good morning Horde,

I recently finished 11/22/63 by Stephen King. I never thought I would read a King novel because most are too scary for me, and I'm not into horror. But, 11/22/63 is more of an alternate history/time travel book about trying to change history by preventing the JFK assassination. I really enjoyed it, and I discovered that Stephen King is a great writer.

Last night, I finished Castle of Water by Dane Huckelbridge. I had no idea what to expect, but I really enjoyed this one, too. Admittedly, it did start off a bit slow, but after the first couple of chapters, I could hardly put it down. It is about a plane wreck and being stranded on a desert island and survival as well as love and heartbreak.

Posted by: Violet at August 11, 2019 11:50 AM (9ppMC)

I've read most, if not all, of King's early works. I stopped about the time his Dark Tower series came out. He never struck me as being a particularly great writer, I found his books were hard to put down once I started them. In order to make sense of my this, I had to make a distinction, so this is what I came up with: Analogous to how a woman can be "pretty" or "sexy" with the two not necessarily being the same thing (although there is usually lots of overlap), an author can be a writer or a storyteller, and the two don't have to be the same. A storyteller is an author who has the ability to keep you asking "What happened next? And then what happened? OK, and then what happened?" over and over again. It's like we humans have some kind of 'story' center in our brains, and the good storytellers, like Stephen King, have figured out how to tweak it. Of course, in order to be a good storyteller you have to have at least some skill as a writer, and King has at least that.

The other book Violet mentioned, Castle of Water, is a story about two different people on one very small island:

For Sophie Ducel, her honeymoon in French Polynesia was intended as a celebration of life. The proud owner of a thriving Parisian architecture firm, co-founded with her brilliant new husband, Sophie had much to look forward to—including a visit to the island home of her favorite singer, Jacques Brel.

For Barry Bleecker, the same trip was meant to mark a new beginning. Turning away from his dreary existence in Manhattan finance, Barry had set his sights on fine art, seeking creative inspiration on the other side of the world—just like his idol, Paul Gauguin.

But when their small plane is downed in the middle of the South Pacific, the sole survivors of the wreck are left with one common goal: to survive. Stranded hundreds of miles from civilization, on an island the size of a large city block, the two castaways must reconcile their differences and learn to draw on one another's strengths if they are to have any hope of making it home.

The Kindle edition is $13.99.

___________

I recently heard an interview with Dr. Stephen Davies who recently wrote a book called The Wealth Explosion: The Nature and Origins of Modernity.

He intrigued me so much that this is on my to-order list

His book is about modernity and how it has worked to make us affluent, and then goes on to describe the elements that made it so. He calls this Modernity. He also argues that there have been a number of periods of affluence that have most of the same elements as today, but they only lasted on the average of about 150 years before the societies slumped back to authoritarian societies without freedom and without affluence.

I suspect the goal is to end modernity and go back to the stable and predictable and engineered "post modernist" society; the elite stay the elite without having to fight over it.

Davies' view of what caused European Enlightenment affluence is quite different from Jared Diamond's Guns Steel Germs book, and his interview showed much more theory and discussion on society than Carlo Cipolla's Guns Sails and Empires (a fascinating book in itself that describes how societies either succeeded or failed to turn themselves inside out to reach modern technology and become economic and military powerhouses)

OF COURSE I have to add that I only heard a 30 minute interview and have not read the book yet, but it sounds riveting.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2019 02:06 PM (q2o3

The Amazon blurb for The Wealth Explosion: The Nature and Origins of Modernity adds nothing to Kindltot's review, but be prepared for some sticker shock. The cheapest paperback versions sell for $35 and there are no e-book versions available.

For a book that, I think, covers the same ground but is less expensive, there is Rodney Stark's How the West Won: The Neglected Story of the Triumph of Modernity. Among other things,

Stark also debunks absurd fabrications that have flourished in the past few decades: that the Greeks stole their culture from Africa; that the West’s “discoveries” were copied from the Chinese and Muslims; that Europe became rich by plundering the non-Western world. At the same time, he reveals the woeful inadequacy of recent attempts to attribute the rise of the West to purely material causes?favorable climates, abundant natural resources, guns and steel.

$9.99 on Kindle.

More of the same: One of the accounts I follow on Twitter is Orwell & Goode, because they repost goofy sh* from left sources (for examples, this, and that) that are a good chronology of the decline of Western Civilization. I thought it was interesting when O&G came out with a book, A Matter of Time: How Time Preferences Make or Break Civilization:

No lasting civilization can stand merely living for today--there must be an implied interest in the future beyond the life expectancy of the individual, which their children will inherit. Western birth rates have plummeted to an unprecedented low. Divorce rates and other family-oriented stats paint a bleak picture for the future. And, paradoxically, despite the wonderful GDPs we boast, individuals seem more disinclined than ever to start families--or think about the future.

In this book, we delve into several potential spiritual and material reasons as to why Westerners have become so present-minded. Why collective self-confidence has been lost and vapid, cheap, entertainment seems so appealing. This book seeks to illustrate the decivilizing tendencies of high time preferences--instant gratification--on a social scale, how they manifest, what causes them, and how to begin combating a temptation for present-minded consumption over something more future-oriented.

So when the time comes after the societal collapse when our overlords are nearly naked men with colander masks ruling the barren wastelands, at least we'll know how we got there.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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Comments

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1 Currently reading Witches Bell by Odette C Bell which you can get free. It is the first book in a series.


https://tinyurl.com/y52h9vwp


I had started on a new one by Jeff Wheeler, Storm Glass, I gave it up after a few chapters. It was boring. Nothing lost, it is free too.


https://tinyurl.com/y5zaoq9t

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (arJlL)

3 Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (cqNba)

4 I think the dude in those pants is seated next to me on this flight.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (aZNua)

5 16th century frescoes"

Huh. Wouldn't Fresca go stale by now?

sorry...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 09:04 AM (6qErC)

6 John Batchelor is a great interviewer. He has a wide variety of guests.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (nDe2U)

7 Since I am a formal sort of guy, I put on some pants before coming to the book thread.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (NVYyb)

8 Bruce Lee is da who dis.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (arJlL)

9 Wild guess....Bruce Lee?

Posted by: BignJames at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (ykq7q)

10 I'm disappointed that conservative list did not have David Weber or John Ringo.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

11 Those pant are fine. I would wear them to barbeque on my poop deck.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Krisco at August 18, 2019 09:06 AM (Tnijr)

12 I read Where Stuff Comes From by Harvey Molotch. Published in 2003, the author attempts to explain how "stuff" appears the way it does. He uses the term "design" in order to differentiate appearance from how products are manufactured. The book is moderately interesting and he does have some flashes of insight: he argues that people consume "stuff" because is satisfies some need rather than being exploited by Capitalists. He does address the failure of the Soviet Union to provide enough consumer goods but misses the point that a vast array of consumer goods is a product of free markets and does not realize that corrupt governmental leadership and a lack of free markets leads to a poorer life-style. Unfortunately, every time he starts to get a glimmer that Leftist dogma is flawed, he has to virtue-signal again, such as when he goes into bit of a rant about the internal combustion engine and we really should have stayed with steam engines (there's a reason we don't have steam-powered aircraft) or using the term "so called Americas." Rating = 2.5/5.

I also read Why We Fight by Sebastian Gorka. Published in 2018, it is a short analysis of 4th Generation Warfare (although he doesn't use that term); i.e., a return to limited "small wars" in the future rather than nations-at-arms such as WWII. Gorka also gives us some biographical insight about how he got to be where he is now. A pretty quick read, it is more a primer for the interested layman, rather than an informed student of 4GW. Rating = 4.0/5.0

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 09:07 AM (5Yee7)

13 Oh that's the guy Brad Pitt beats up in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:08 AM (fuK7c)

14 At first glance, I thought that library was a church.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:09 AM (lwiT4)

15 I think the dude in those pants is seated next to me on this flight.
Posted by: Diogenes

In the pic, it looks like he's ready to "Take a Meeting" !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:09 AM (arJlL)

16 It sounds like Vorführeffekt may be a variety of Heisenbug.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/5jmol4

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 09:10 AM (t+qrx)

17 At first glance, I thought that library was a church.
Posted by: grammie winger

Same here.

Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:10 AM (arJlL)

18 I read Heart of Barkness by Spencer Quinn. This is the latest in the Chet and Bernie series. The mysteries may not be the greatest, but I love this series. The narration by a number-challenged dog, Chet (The Jet), is very funny. His frequent asides and his dog's point of view keeps a smile on my face while I read the books.

I also read Survival in Auschwitz by Primo Levi, the author of The Periodic Table. A short, interesting account of Levi's one year in Auschwitz. Particularly interesting was his account of surviving the last ten days between when the Germans fled and the Russian army arrived.


Posted by: Zoltan at August 18, 2019 09:11 AM (wuQ4y)

19 "They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:"

Mr f'd has a family songbook from the 20's she showed me the other day and one of the songs is "KKK Katy". I'm pretty sure you can't do that no mo.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Krisco at August 18, 2019 09:11 AM (Tnijr)

20 The German word VORFÜHREFFEKT—literally, ‘the demonstration effect’—refers to a situation in which something stops working, and then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.
-----------

Conversely, there is the phenomenon of a product that has always worked perfectly, but fails miserably when demonstrated to a potential buyer.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both experienced this, in fairly spectacular fashion.

I once worked with a VP of Sales, who wisely refused to do more than display and talk about our products at trade shows, on account of that risk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:11 AM (yAc+w)

21 eeeww off greasy sock



Anyway here's the story:

K-K-K Katy, written 1917, by a Canadian!

The lyrics tell of a brave but awkward soldier called Jimmy who is lovesick over the beautiful Katy. He buys a wedding ring before going to fight in France.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 09:13 AM (Tnijr)

22 I subscribed to Kindle Unlimited a couple of months ago. It lets me try out authors I might never have heard of. I usually go for suspense/mystery. So far its been a mixed bag of mediocre to pretty good. Yesterday's book was pretty good. "A Litter of Bones" by JD Kirk, a murder mystery set in the Scottish Highlands. I can't complain about the mediocre ones because, free. After this month, I'll have to pay ten bucks a month though. Not bad for all the books you can read.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (lwiT4)

23 Still working on 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb', Rhodes.

The biographical information of the sundry physicists is comprehensive and fascinating.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (yAc+w)

24 Read "Monte Cassino" by Matthew Parker. He tells the story of the four assaults against Monte Cassino, and the surrounding towns and mountains in central Italy from January-May 1944. After the successful allied landings in Italy the German strategy was to fight a delaying action by establishing "lines" of defense. The most formidable was the western end of the Gustav Line centered near Monte Cassino that blocked the route to Rome. Field Marshal Kesselring made it into an attackers nightmare. Buildings and trees were removed to improve fields of fire. Low ground was flooded. Mines, booby traps, and barbed wire were laid everywhere. Due to the winter weather vehicles bogged down in the mud. Often the best mine clearing equipment were goats, and mules were more valuable than vehicles.

Mostly told from first person accounts of those who fought there: American, British, Canadian, New Zealanders and Maoris, French and their N. African colonials, Indians, Gurhkas, Sikhs, Polish, Italians as well as the Germans.

Parker also includes humor. Apparently the New Zealanders weren't into the spit and polish routine. A British general who visited their headquarters complained to their commander LtGen Sir Bernard Freyberg, "Your people don't salute very much do they?" Freyberg said, "You should try waving at them. They always wave back."

German view from Monte Cassino.
https://tinyurl.com/yypzptym
Allies view of Monte Cassino.
https://tinyurl.com/y3ldjopg

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (TDyHc)

25 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx, my kind of Marxist

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (HaL55)

26 Hiya JT!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (lwiT4)

27 Good morning on behalf of Mr. JTB who is attending an all-day event at our club. I am sure he will give a full report on Weasel's thread this evening. In the meantime if you like Egyptology, archaeological adventure and murder mysteries, try an Amelia Peabody book written by Elizabeth Peters.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (bmdz3)

28 22
I subscribed to Kindle Unlimited a couple of months ago. It lets me try
out authors I might never have heard of. I usually go for
suspense/mystery. So far its been a mixed bag of mediocre to pretty
good. Yesterday's book was pretty good. "A Litter of Bones" by JD Kirk, a
murder mystery set in the Scottish Highlands. I can't complain about
the mediocre ones because, free. After this month, I'll have to pay ten
bucks a month though. Not bad for all the books you can read.


Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (lwiT4)

How much does that kindle unlimited cost per year? I have been thinking about it.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (mpXpK)

29 Nice ending. That Ikea meme is hilarious.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (Z1eux)

30 Oh, of course willowed this morning.

269 Good morning, brethren and cistern.

Salty, thumbs up on propane generator with auto transfer. Up here in Siberian NH, the power goes out monthly, more in the winter. Don't have a whole-house genset, just critical circuits - stove, furnace, fridge, Xbox. Oh, and router so I don't lose you guys.
And thinking ahead, nice to have in the burning times. Just get a really large underground tank.

Sorry, Oregon Muse, I'll get to books in a moment.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:16 AM (RqZyu)

31 How much does that kindle unlimited cost per year? I have been thinking about it.


Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (mpXpK)



The first three months I got free. After that it's ten bucks a month. I'm not sure if you have to be a Prime member or not. (I am).

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:17 AM (lwiT4)

32 Per a Moron's recommendation, I've also started 'Paris in the Terror', Loomis.

If you're here, thanks for the suggestion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:17 AM (yAc+w)

33 It sounds like Vorführeffekt may be a variety of Heisenbug.


I'm on a discussion board about Vorführeffekt and no one can come up with an English equivalent.

People have tried Murphy's Law, but that's too generalized. The Brits have a Sod's Law, which is Murphy with the stipulation that it go wrong in the worst possible way.

The word isn't in the main dictionary (dict.leo.org is your friend if you German), but all of the Germans in the discussion group are familiar with it and looking for the way to express the same thing in English.

There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (fuK7c)

34 if you like Egyptology, archaeological adventure and murder mysteries, try an Amelia Peabody book written by Elizabeth Peters.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (bmdz3)



That sounds right up my alley. I'll add it to my list - thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (lwiT4)

35 On airplanes this past week, I found the Foundation books on my Kindle and now I am into rereading the third one.

It started as a trilogy, as everyone knows, but Asimov could not resist the filthy lucre and so he kept going, eventually tying them into his Robot books as well. So I guess I will reread those next, which is OK, because the first couple of Robot books have great vitality and are among his best.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (NVYyb)

36 John Batchelor is a great interviewer. He has a wide variety of guests.


Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (nDe2U)

something about him rubs me the wrong way, and I can't listen to him.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 09:21 AM (q2o38)

37 drat

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 09:21 AM (q2o38)

38 My Mom gave me Bologna sammiches,but she never told me aboot her Library.
Don't the greasy fingered Bolognese mess up the Bibles?


There is more space in there than a JJ Morning Report!!!

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:22 AM (5IHGB)

39 Looking for recommendations to learn more about Critical Theory, but something a little lighter than Michael Walsh's "The Devil's Pleasure Palace."

(If writing could be said to be baroque, that book would be a great example.)

Posted by: secdroid at August 18, 2019 09:23 AM (33NcR)

40 Looks like you don't need prime to sign up. You get the first 30 days free and then its $10/month + taxes

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (mpXpK)

41 Morning!

Some nice thunderstorms coming through here this morning.. got the dog out just before this wave hit!

Does reading the latest Popular Science and Popular Mechanics count? I simply cannot get interested in reading books lately.. I think it must have something to do with too much time on the internet.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (438dO)

42 I see Milan has a NO ITALIANS ALLOWED rule...

ou est la Bibliotheque Marco?

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (5IHGB)

43 I've also started 'Paris in the Terror', Loomis.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:17 AM

I think you'll enjoy it. It's one of the best history books I've read in a long time.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:25 AM (TDyHc)

44 FWIW, I subscribed to Kindle Unlimited for a couple of years when it first came out. We enjoyed sampling new authors for a while, but then it seemed that they didn't really add any new stuff. It may have improved since then.

I now pay the same amount for an Austin Public Library card (since I live outside of the city). It's not inconvenient since we only use it for ebooks. Much happier with the selection and it's saved me a ton on books that I would otherwise have bought.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 09:26 AM (S+f+m)

45 Vic - just a note. Not all books are available on Kindle Unlimited. For instance, I was hoping to read all the Agatha Christie books, but they are not available on KU.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:26 AM (lwiT4)

46
Turn Down The Volume - a limerick

We set all the books in a line
And at first we thought things were fine
'Til the sixth one got lost
How'd those numbers get crossed?
Ah! A six is an upside down nine

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:28 AM (mvenn)

47 44 I now pay the same amount for an Austin Public
Library card (since I live outside of the city). It's not inconvenient
since we only use it for ebooks. Much happier with the selection and
it's saved me a ton on books that I would otherwise have bought.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 09:26 AM (S+f+m)

I am a member of the library here and it is free. They have a few kindle books but they are always checked out and there is a waiting list. And the selection is limited.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

48 I have started The Sun Also Rises which I haven't read in ages. It was my first Hemingway novel. I had a fantastic high school English teacher who still influences the way I think about reading.

I think I mostly liked it because there's a fishing trip in the middle and lots of drinking wine with peasants and also I should learn a bunch of languages so I can go out in the world.

What surprises me this time is the opening of the book. "Robert Cohn was a Jew from Princeton who took up boxing because Princeton made him feel insecure about being a Jew at Princeton. He broke his Jew nose boxing and that improved it".

That's a paraphrase, but it's the effect. I also noticed recently in the short story "The Battler" that H could be very casual with the N word. I don't really remember noticing these things all those years ago.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:29 AM (fuK7c)

49 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Still reading The Poppy War--I didn't do much recreational reading this week.

I am thinking of going to church this morning, but on the fence. Haven't been a church-goer in my adult life, and was raised Methodist, but there is a Catholic church just a block away from me in this small town. I've been a few times, but the songs are different and I am lost with the ritual.

I kinda feel like I should go, but I really don't much care for church. Decisions.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:29 AM (OX9vb)

50 Another empty library.

Posted by: Chouinard at August 18, 2019 09:29 AM (ua1m6)

51 Or I could just keep hanging around here, which I really like a lot.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:30 AM (OX9vb)

52 I suspect that any really popular books are not on the list. That was the problem I had with prime. All the good movies I already had and their selection was very limited.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

53
I'm on a discussion board about Vorführeffekt and no one can come up with an English equivalent.

People have tried Murphy's Law, but that's too generalized. The Brits have a Sod's Law, which is Murphy with the stipulation that it go wrong in the worst possible way.

The word isn't in the main dictionary (dict.leo.org is your friend if you German), but all of the Germans in the discussion group are familiar with it and looking for the way to express the same thing in English.

There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019


*
*
"The demonstration failure effect"?

"The demonstration embarrassment effect"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:31 AM (4c+5M)

54 the songs are different and I am lost with the ritual.



That's exactly how I felt when I got married and started going to Rev's church (Lutheran). It took me months to figure out the liturgy. I'm not really a liturgical person.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:31 AM (lwiT4)

55 My tongue-bath interview with Mayor Buttplug was delish!

Posted by: Fake Fapper at August 18, 2019 09:32 AM (NjJUT)

56 *deep sigh* Oh, the books already mentioned or discussed which have piqued my interest...
I finished that first Maisie Dobbs mystery this week - don't think that I'll carry on with the others, just yet. Got another couple of chapters into Cruise of the Lanakei ... and started the first of Alma Boykin's Colplatschki series - which is at least mildly interesting.

The Daughter Unit and I were at a launch party for another local author last night; at the Lone Star Lounge on New Braunfels' Main Street. Met up with a handful of other local authors, including two that will be at the Giddings Word Wrangler next month - so yay! We can say that we have a real-world social life! We've committed to visiting the middle school to talk to three sixth grade classes about writing and storytelling; all part of trying to grow another generation of readers, you see.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 18, 2019 09:32 AM (xnmPy)

57 Grammie, If you have Amazon Prime, keep an eye out for daily book deals. We are not interested in most of them, but sometimes they put Agatha Christie on sale or for free.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (bmdz3)

58 Just finished A Little Rebellion, third in the Crimson World Series. Jay Allen.
Great Heinlein-esque space opera. The only problem is that I got to the end and see that there are six, count 'em, six more books in the series! I'm not sure I can stay with it that long.
Seems to me a story can be told in a trilogy.
For those of us with shorter attention spans.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (RqZyu)

59 I suspect that any really popular books are not on
the list. That was the problem I had with prime. All the good movies I
already had and their selection was very limited.


Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:30 AM (mpXpK)



Yes, the really popular books probably will not be on KU. I was hoping the latest Daniel Silva book would be, but alas. That one I will have to check out from the library.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

60 Good morning, readers and writers!

I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (i/wJA)

61 Mrs JTB - I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (lwiT4)

62 I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?
Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM

Book 9 is upside down.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (TDyHc)

63 Reading Nothing Lost, by John Gregory Dunne, who wrote True Confessions. It's sort of a John Grisham courtroom novel, told from several viewpoints. One of his narrators, Max Cline (a self-described "queer Jew"), even mentions Grisham's novels at one point.

I was really bored by True Confessions -- maybe the movie with DeNiro was better -- but this is at leas entertaining.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (4c+5M)

64 I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?
Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (i/wJA)

#6 is showing as #9, upside down.

Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (2GPSc)

65 Tolle Lege
Finally took my own advice and am reading With Eagles to Glory by John Gill, it's a historical account of France's German allies during the 1809 Aspern-Essling and Wagram campaigns.
Two things to help get reading again, first something your very interesting in and two it was free on Amazon.
Still might be but not sure, it's a third edition.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (BbGew)

66 Book 9 is upside down.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (TDyHc)


*smacks forehead*

Thanks, Jake.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (i/wJA)

67 K-K-K Katy, written 1917, by a Canadian!

The lyrics tell of a brave but awkward soldier called Jimmy who is lovesick over the beautiful Katy. He buys a wedding ring before going to fight in France.
Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 09:13 AM (Tnijr)


I am familiar with that song. I heard it growing up. You don't sing 'K K K' as in 'bedsheet-wearing clowns' but you make the 'kuh' K sound like you're stuttering:

"K-K-K-Katy
Beautiful Katy
I'll be waiting at the
K-K-K-kitchen door"


Don't know how the rest goes.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (JVrQi)

68 I didn't get it either, Emmie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (fuK7c)

69
I am thinking of going to church this morning, but on the fence. Haven't been a church-goer in my adult life, and was raised Methodist, but there is a Catholic church just a block away from me in this small town. I've been a few times, but the songs are different and I am lost with the ritual.

I kinda feel like I should go, but I really don't much care for church. Decisions.
Posted by: April

.............

It's funny that you say you get lost in the ritual, because so many Catholics (back in my day at least) took comfort in that ritual.. and very much rebelled at any changes in it! The original Mass in Latin was always my favorite.

I haven't been to church in many years, myself.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (438dO)

70 Uhh, bander, that demonstration failure thing does have a word.
Erectile dysfunction.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (RqZyu)

71 #6 is showing as #9, upside down.
Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (2GPSc)


Thank you.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:39 AM (i/wJA)

72 I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?
Posted by: Emmie


*****

see mine at #46

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:39 AM (mvenn)

73 I am reading Henry James's novella The Turn of the Screw. I had forgotten how good it is. I don't think there are ghosts, I think the governess is bat shit crazy.

Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (OeWgo)

74 I finished a couple books this week. One was The Overstory by Richard Powers and it reminded me of why I swore off him a while back. It's very well written, although what passes for editing these days is very substandard with homonym and tense violations passing right through, and the characters are vividly portrayed. But all the praise for his writing makes him think he's really really smart about sciency things and he's not. First of all don't lecture me about man made science change, punk. You're just as fucking dumb as the presstitutes doing the same and I don't buy into it. At all. Second, we all like trees and admit that wantonly destroying them is wrong. But don't take some Secret Life of Plants nuttery and act like they're these really brilliant sentient beings that we're too fucking stupid to comprehend and that forest management to prevent fires is being daft. To his credit he presented his band of eco terrorists with varying degrees of sympathy. And he had a very interesting IT genius who got tired of creating software that created elaborate imaginary worlds and broke off to use advanced AIs to compile data on how planet earth really works. Things like that don't insult my intelligence while still being speculative. So I gave it a three on Goodreads. And a warning to the book group to up their game.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

75 When you talk about storytellers, do not overlook comic strip creators.

Milton Caniff, the genius behind "Terry and the Pirates" and "Steve Canyon," said that his job was to sell tomorrow's newspaper.

I'm well into "Nine Princes of Amber." Amber, as best as I can define it, is the true realm of existence, and all others, such as our Earth, are merely substandard copies; that is, they differ from Amber in several respects -- the sky is red, the moons are violet, the dominant species have six fingers per hand -- you get the idea. The royal siblings are able to travel to these realms, called Shadows.

The princes of Amber are competing for the vacant throne. Corwin, the lead character, is allied with his brother Bleys, leading a military force against their hated brother Eric, who has claimed the crown.

Eric has just used control over the weather and other elements to stall Corwin's armada. Corwin has escaped to where Bleys' army is being raked by sandstorms and other nastiness. The body count is in the thousands.

Looks as if Eric will be the winner in this book, but there are four more novels to go.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (HztAI)

76 Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:31 AM (lwiT4)

54 Yeah, you were, what--Baptist? Pentecostal? Those would be so different. The thing I always liked best about church was the singing, and it just isn't the same in Catholic church.

So, I'm trying to decide--does God need us to go to church? Or is He ok with us worshiping and praying privately?

I guess this is off topic, so I'll be quiet about it now.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (OX9vb)

77 68 I didn't get it either, Emmie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (fuK7c)


Want to sit in the doofus section with me?

By the way, I was hoping Mr. Bassman would be able to work some of his magic for you, but no one has called him back either.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:41 AM (i/wJA)

78 April, I vote that you should go ahead and go to the church, but of course you probably knew I would.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 09:42 AM (aXucN)

79 April - I was raised Baptist, then I went Big Box Non-denominational. I love the singing too. I'll be quiet about it now too, so as not to de-rail. I say, go. Now I'm zipping it.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:42 AM (lwiT4)

80 Re: ebooks, I do find that the library sites have a good selection. The big problem is that popular reads have a long waiting list.

I go ahead and have them auto-check out as soon as they are available, so then I'm pleasantly surprised when something shows up on my kindle that I was waiting to read.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OX9vb)

81 Also, we have that Little Golden Book above.

All together now: "Of course you do!"

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (aXucN)

82 76

I think God wants us to worship together when possible because Christ has said where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there. But, each Christian has his/her individual relationship with Christ, so alone time with Him is acceptable also. I will always defer to Grammie or Fen though! Just my two cents!

Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OeWgo)

83 Sometimes, while traveling, I take time out to go into the local library and join. They usually have electronic collections available and they are different one from the other. In addition to my local library I belong to three others.

Always borrow a book, as my skinflint grandfather would probably say, rather than give Lord Bezos money, if you can!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:44 AM (NVYyb)

84 see mine at #46
Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:39 AM (mvenn)


*hearty chuckle*

I missed that as well as I was perusing comments for a clue.

It's time to get ready for church. I think I'll sit in the doofus section today.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:44 AM (i/wJA)

85 Im on the fence about seaaon of ash, its an ambitious folliow up by volpi, actually thr 3rd such, coverinf fron 1920s america a siviet union, to 2000, hungary and germany become setpieces, he tackles genetics macroeconomics the soviet bioweapoms program

Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 09:45 AM (uWSeN)

86 Always borrow a book, as my skinflint grandfather would probably say, never return one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:45 AM (fuK7c)

87 75 Looks as if Eric will be the winner in this book, but there are four more novels to go.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (HztAI)

That was a good series the first time I read it. I have i in the large paperbacks (2). I down loaded the Kindle version of the first two last year but I found that it wasn't as good the 3rd time around.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:46 AM (mpXpK)

88 A storyteller is an author who has the ability to keep you asking "What happened next? And then what happened? OK, and then what happened?" over and over again.

-
An author frequently cited as such is action adventure novelist Rafael Sabatini, author of such works as Captain Blood, The Sea Hawk and Scaramouche. His technique is simple. Place the hero in some life threatening situation often by means of betrayal, have him navigate from one cliffhanger to another and a climax with an ironic surprise ending.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)

89 Of course you do.

We had it, too, in the wicker basket with all the cardboard childrens' books.
Books made of cardboard, not children.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:46 AM (RqZyu)

90 As part of my ongoing project to read old science fiction novels I managed to miss while growing up, I've been working my way through _The Godwhale_ by T.J. Bass. It's weirdly fascinating.

The story (such as it is) is about a motley group of far-future rebels aboard a giant whale-cyborg ocean harvester ship, battling against the totalitarian overpopulated land society called the Hive.

Yes, it's a 1970s "ecological" novel, but it's interesting to see how the focus of the environmental obsession has shifted. Bass's novel is dystopian, but the focus is on how overpopulation has resulted in dehumanization and totalitarian rule. In short, overpopulation and environmental destruction are bad because of what they do to humanity.

Contrast the modern "original sin" view that humanity is the problem, and the goal isn't stewardship but actual human extinction.

Anyway, the book's interesting. Bass knows his science (he was an M.D.) or at least can fake it convincingly (he was an M.D.). There are implausibilities (the oceans recover from being utterly sterile in an amazingly short time) and at times the bad guys have to pick up the "Idiot Ball" to give the good guys a chance of winning.

But overall it's a good book.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 18, 2019 09:47 AM (pQA5D)

91 One that always perturbed me:

Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the lord my soul to keep
If I should die before I wake
I pray the Lord my soul to take


How many six-year-old kids have lain wide-eyed awake in bed after reciting that?

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:47 AM (mvenn)

92 65 Tolle Lege
Finally took my own advice and am reading With Eagles to Glory by John Gill, it's a historical account of France's German allies during the 1809 Aspern-Essling and Wagram campaigns.


Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019

*
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He really gets around, this Gill fellow. Last I heard he was running the planet Ekos.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:48 AM (4c+5M)

93 The kindle versions are $6 each.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

94 Well, you gotta return them to friends Senor Bander. Some people can get ticklish about unreturned books. But, me? Go ahead, take them. One fewer in my house.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:49 AM (NVYyb)

95 I am reading Henry James's novella The Turn of the Screw. I had forgotten how good it is. I don't think there are ghosts, I think the governess is bat shit crazy.
Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (OeWgo)


Henry James appeal is mainly lost to the young and assigning him to most high school students is sheer torture. When I reread The Portrait of a Lady post 60 I got a lot more out of it than when I first read it in my 30s or 40s, over and beyond the joys of rereading. Another bone of contention with my book group's numbskulls is they won't read more James which I've come out and told them illustrates their pedestrian tastes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 09:50 AM (y7DUB)

96 94
Well, you gotta return them to friends Senor Bander. Some people can
get ticklish about unreturned books. But, me? Go ahead, take them.
One fewer in my house.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:49 AM (NVYyb)

I am very ticklish about my hardcover book, SC A History, that someone borrowed and hasn't returned. It was expensive as Hell because they use it for a textbook at USC (SC).

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:51 AM (mpXpK)

97 How many six-year-old kids have lain wide-eyed awake in bed after reciting that?


Yes, that always struck me as gruesome. So did when the bough breaks the baby will fall.

Of course, in my non-religious household it was

Now I lay me down to sleep
A bag of peanuts at my feet
If I should die before I wake
Give them to my brother Jake.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:51 AM (fuK7c)

98 Muldoon, that prayer disturbed me as a child. So much so that I wouldn't say prayers. It made me feel like I wanted to die. Heavy stuff for a less-than-seven-year-old!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 09:52 AM (a4qVe)

99 76
I think God wants us to worship together when possible because Christ has said where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there. But, each Christian has his/her individual relationship with Christ, so alone time with Him is acceptable also. I will always defer to Grammie or Fen though! Just my two cents!
Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OeWgo)


The more older I get, the more I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing Christians can do.

The fact that the Hong Kong protestors are singing hymns reinforces this.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)

100 I was in church for a funeral yesterday. Our retired minister was leading it, and the (relatively speaking) new guy participated. It reminded me very forcefully of why he and I had to part ways.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (NVYyb)

101 "Rock-a-bye-baby" isn't a lullaby, and I don't know why anyone uses it that way. It's a play song: you hold the toddler and sing it, suiting actions to the words. Rock the kid at first, then pretend to drop when you get to "breaks" and put the kid down amid squeals of glee. You'll probably have to do it a few more times.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 18, 2019 09:54 AM (pQA5D)

102 Trimegistus, my first introduction to biochem and nutrition was The Godwhale.
It also taught me the lie of "the greatest good for the greatest number" which distills down to "misery for everyone, forever."

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 09:54 AM (q2o38)

103 How many six-year-old kids have lain wide-eyed awake in bed after reciting that?
Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:47 AM (mvenn)


Well, to be fair, I think this little prayer came from years ago, back when families losing one or two kids was not uncommon.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:55 AM (JVrQi)

104 Bluebell, we also had a Children's Hymn Book. The only song I remember is "Jesus wants me for a sun beam." As I kid I always heard it as sun bean.
Never could find them in the garden, but I pictured them as sunflower seeds.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:55 AM (RqZyu)

105 "Gorka ... Why We Fight" 4th Generation Warfare (although he doesn't use that term); i.e., a
return to limited "small wars" in the future rather than nations-at-arms
such as WWII."

thanks for that term, I'd heard it but never gave it much thought. So after a 12 minute You-Tube, I'm now an instant expert. ha
https://tinyurl.com/y6k65mbj
But yeah, the 4GW is ongoing as I see it, except our side (government/DeepState) is fighting for the globalists, their sides are fighting for themselves. We need to unite our "Christian Hemisphere", while retaining sovereignty. Europe may already be surrendered, idk. Notre Dame was symbolic ... we will see if the new one has a minaret.


imo this ties directly to OM's "Matter of Time" book ... blurb says "... why Westerners have become so present-minded. Why collective
self-confidence has been lost and vapid, cheap, entertainment seems so
appealing." As I see it, the Why, is that DeepState has picked up the ball from the old Soviet infiltration, and it is all one big 4GW against Western Civ.

The DS is attacking elements Liberty on multiple small war fronts (Hollywood, education, news, infiltrated government bureaucracy, corporate autonomy (?), academic fascism, infiltrated churches ... now with the DeathStar of Google thought control fully operational.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 09:56 AM (Cus5s)

106 Most of the grand European library photos depress me, but at least the eye ties seem to want to resist Islam. I hope the rest of West Europe have the sense to evacuate their cultural treasures to the US once the ummah begins asserting its rights over Europe. Though I'm not sure if they care to be remembered in posterity, even.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 09:56 AM (+Vf+y)

107 Having been raised a Catholic, as well as being saved and baptized a Baptist and currently not "churched"; I am lost on cultivating the relationship with Christ. I pray daily to our Heavenly Father. I speak with him frequently, but I really don't understand my place with Christ. Any books or thoughts hordians?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 09:57 AM (a4qVe)

108 "Alas, Babylon" by Pat Frank Kindle edition Normally $15.99 is available for $1.99 @ Amazon right now

Posted by: Ken at August 18, 2019 09:57 AM (G6QBb)

109 The current version of that song was written in the 17 hundreds.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:58 AM (mpXpK)

110 Our retired minister was fantastic, starting his homily with Noah being promised a rainbow and finishing with the lyric from When You Wish Upon A Star

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:00 AM (NVYyb)

111 I really don't understand my place with Christ. Any books or thoughts hordians?


Start at the Book of Matthew and keep going all the way through.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:00 AM (lwiT4)

112 I think God wants us to worship together when possible because Christ has said where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there. But, each Christian has his/her individual relationship with Christ, so alone time with Him is acceptable also. I will always defer to Grammie or Fen though! Just my two cents!
Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OeWgo)


Your contribution is worth more. The practice of religion is a social thing. You can engage in private contemplation to figure things out but the actual practice is a joint celebration. This shouldn't be controversial.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:01 AM (y7DUB)

113 107: CS Lewis' The Case for Christianity

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 10:01 AM (U7k5w)

114 Question because I don't really know. When it comes to kindle ebooks, you don't actually own them do you?

You are paying for access that can go away?

Posted by: Booky MacBookface at August 18, 2019 10:01 AM (vqIkG)

115 You own Kindle books.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:03 AM (fuK7c)

116 Start at the Book of Matthew and keep going all the way through.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:00 AM (lwiT4)
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Good idea. And I will add, get a study guide to help you understand. Otherwise a lot of it may seem cryptic. Not Matthew in particular, but the Bible in general.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:03 AM (lCuSi)

117 Got to get my day going. First order of business is to change out of tighty whities. Otherwise the ONT folks will laugh and point.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 10:04 AM (RqZyu)

118 I was watching Veronica Mars when the book The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin was presented as proof that the child reader was smart and sensitive. I'd never heard of it so I looked it up and saw that it is a beloved, award winning children's mystery novel. So I thought I'd read it.

It concerns the death of an eccentric millionaire who relies on the greed of his enemies to seek revenge from beyond the grave. He sets up an elaborate game in which the winner will reveal his murderer and inherit his fortune. I have not finished but it doesn't particularly appeal to me. The setup is too artificial for me, the writing itself is rather pedestrian and likeable characters are few and far between. However the mystery of what is actually happening keeps me reading and I think I've figured out a major message/clue which will likely appeal to conservatives.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 10:05 AM (+y/Ru)

119 117 Got to get my day going. First order of business is to change out of tighty whities. Otherwise the ONT folks will laugh and point.

I just sit an a bowl of bleach.

Posted by: Ouch at August 18, 2019 10:05 AM (qul7b)

120 Yes, unless you can download in some form free of DRM, you don't own anything you buy. This is also true for music, video, and cloud-based software. The people you purchased the viewing rights from may alter or remove content at will.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:05 AM (+Vf+y)

121 Well, to be fair, I think this little prayer came from years ago, back when families losing one or two kids was not uncommon.
Posted by: OregonMuse.

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True enough. There is a small abandoned cemetery near our place with tombstones dating from the 1870's. Of 10 markers, four are of children, including two siblings under age three who died within two days of each other.

Still, the line from the prayer seems pretty stark and almost threatening as opposed to comforting.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 10:06 AM (mvenn)

122 The DS is attacking elements Liberty on multiple small war fronts (Hollywood, education, news, infiltrated government bureaucracy, corporate autonomy (?), academic fascism, infiltrated churches ... now with the DeathStar of Google thought control fully operational.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 09:56 AM (Cus5s)


I agree. That's why I have begun planning to have my two grandsons read some of the older books about the American heroes that I read when I was a boy. Those books are still out there, although some becoming rather expensive. My plan is: read this book and Pop-Pop is going to give you a reward. Thus, gradually counter the anti-American crap that they constantly here but not be preachy about it and give them a pay-out. My Mom paid me to read (her goal was just to jump-start my reading because I was a "reluctant reader") but she admitted that she created a person that loved to read.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 10:06 AM (5Yee7)

123 115
You own Kindle books.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:03 AM (fuK7c)

But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it. And if it like about half of my books that Amazon never recovered after deleting my library it is gone for good.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:07 AM (mpXpK)

124 The people you purchased the viewing rights from may alter or remove content at will.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's

They stole Vic's books and hid them in LadyL's driveway for awhile.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 10:07 AM (arJlL)

125 You own Kindle books.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

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Incorrect.

"All content included in or made available through any Amazon Service, such as text, graphics, logos, button icons, images, audio clips, digital downloads, and data compilations is the property of Amazon or its content suppliers and protected by United States and international copyright laws."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:08 AM (+Vf+y)

126 But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it.


That is not my experience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:08 AM (fuK7c)

127 Thanks for the answers. Looks like a divided result. 1 Yay and 1 nay.

I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (vqIkG)

128 Cheriebebe, et al. The Epistles to the Romans, Ephesians, Galatians, Colossians, Philippians, and Hebrews; then the Gospel of John. Then C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity. Then Robert Boyd Munger, My Heart, Christ's Home. Then two devotional works by E. Young, The Word at Work and The Spirit at Work. Sincere good wishes and blessings to you!

Posted by: A little help at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (zVPWv)

129 Amazon did remotely wipe copies of "1984" (of all things, right?) from peoples' Kindles. It looked pretty bad for them, as you can imagine. My monkey-level understanding of the case is that the publisher only had electronic distribution rights in the UK, but copies had been sold elsewhere, so it's more analogous to receiving a copy that someone didn't have the right to sell you.

That said, people did in fact wake up one morning to discover that their copies of "1984" had disappeared down the memory hole.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2avwbyq

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (t+qrx)

130 American Ulysses. Bio of US Grant.

Posted by: BluesFish at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (WQZ1O)

131 126
But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it.





That is not my experience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:08 AM (fuK7c)

Go through your library on your device and find one with no check mark on the cover and open it while the modem is not connected.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (mpXpK)

132 K K K Katy,
Beautiful Katy,
You're the only G G G girl that I adore.When the M Moon shines
Over the M mountain,I'll be waiting at the K K K kitchen door."

I'm embarrassed to admit that's from memory.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (RuhkN)

133 Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 09:57 AM (a4qVe)

That's kind of where I am, also.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (OX9vb)

134 My bride returns today from another fishing trip, to Wyoming this time. She goes with a group of four high school girl friends. The dogs and I are supposed to make dinner, which requires I fo to the grocery store. Think I will get to that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (NVYyb)

135 127 I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (vqIkG)

I suspect it doesn't matter what you reader is if you get it from Amazon. I had some I bought directly from the publisher though that did not do that. But I lost all of those when my App collapsed.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (mpXpK)

136 Amazon did remotely wipe copies of "1984" (of all things, right?)


Huh. I didn't know they had the ability to do that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (fuK7c)

137 There are two parts to the Catholic Mass. The first part is "the liturgy of the Word" which varies week to week in a three year cycle. The second part is "the liturgy of the Eucharist" which does not vary.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:13 AM (I5SAg)

138 The more older I get, the more I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing Christians can do.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)
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The Catholic interpretation of "Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day" includes going to Mass on Sunday. That is why it is a requirement of Catholicism and it is a mortal sin if you miss Sunday Mass without a good reason (although many Catholics were never taught this or have forgotten this).

And of course, personal prayer to God is always encouraged! But Sunday worship for us is a must.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (aXucN)

139 To mark August 17th being the 50th anniversary of Hurricane Camille devastating the Gulf Coast I decided to finally read Philip D. Hearn's Hurricane Camille: Monster Storm of the Gulf Coast which was published in 2004 by University Press of Mississippi.

I was frankly disappointed in the overall layout of the chapters. Upon reflection it seems Hearn could not decide if he was writing a purely historical 'just the facts' type book or an oral history as the first chapter is built around people's impressions and reactions to Camille's approach while the second and third document the history of the Mississippi Gulf Coast and what makes a hurricane. Fourth chapter switches focus back to people's recollections and fifth chapter again goes into 'just the facts' mode. The sixth chapter is again about the people while the final chapter is spent trying to forecast the next Camille and what should be done.

This is not to say I did not find anything interesting in the book as I did. Camille was a compact and fast moving storm, New Orleans and Mobile barely felt tropical storm winds and rain as the eight mile wide eye of Camille came ashore in Pass Christian and would punch through the Gulf Coast in a mere three hours late that Sunday night in 1969. Or in the aftermath of the storm in Ocean Springs, National Guard troops would get into a fire fight with looters. That for a few years after the storm, some survivors would have a party in their driveways to eat Vienna sausages and drink booze diluted by water. And the true story of what happened at Richelieu Apartments in Pass Christian is documented to refute the false tale pushed by Gerlach of there being a hurricane party.

One thing that would immensely help any reader who is not familiar with the Mississippi Gulf Coast, Hearn should have provided at least one map to help visualize the locales.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (6zCBb)

140 I thought Amazon said that 1984 snafu was not for all copies of the book, only for one version that was the subject of a copyright infringement suit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (NVYyb)

141 Huh. I didn't know they had the ability to do that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (fuK7c)

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Yup. They haven't begun rampantly censoring wrongthink (yet, they will, though).

But you sign an agreement explicitly stating you have no rights to the content, only that you purchased a right foot to be "made available," dependent on the approval of Amazon.

Virtually all web-based content from any company carries the same caveat.

Unless you possess a local, digital copy, free of DRM, someone else actually owns it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:18 AM (+Vf+y)

142 OK, I'ma go. Be back later.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 10:18 AM (OX9vb)

143 They can not delete it if your device is not connected to the modem. And Amazon says it has changed its policy and will no longer delete books on people's devices. But as I said you have to re-download it periodically to open it.

https://tinyurl.com/mkbp75g

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:20 AM (mpXpK)

144 I bailed on my KU membership last month when I realized it was accelerating the deterioration of my mind. I found myself reading junk just because it was free.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (RuhkN)

145 I've been reading "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" which I have seen recommended at the HQ on a couple of occasions. Quite profane, and humorous in places, the book seems to draw inspiration from the Stoics in some of its basic premises. One such premise is that life, a great deal of the time, is a giant shit sandwich and characterized by struggle, strife, and negative occurrences. The sooner one accepts this, the sooner one can start learning how to cope with these things and approach them more constructively. We have a finite number of fucks to give, and giving them all, all the time, about everything, is a formula for disaster.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)

146 Bye April!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (aXucN)

147 The second book I finished was The Gypsy's Curse by Harry Crews. Like most of his books I was bouncing along thoroughly enjoying every vignette but noticing the pages were dwindled and I had no clue of how he'd wrap that sucker up. Welp he did in magnificent fashion. Library of America needs to visit a proctologist to remove that stick up their ass and release his collected works before the publishing dimwits let all his stuff go OOP.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (y7DUB)

148 Our pastor does expositional reading tbrough romans acts and were finishing with luke he also provides much of the context to the events of the times

Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (uWSeN)

149 Quite profane, and humorous in places,

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)
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And again, you know what I am going to say.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (aXucN)

150 149 Quite profane, and humorous in places,

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)
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And again, you know what I am going to say.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (aXucN)

Heh. I do indeed.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:23 AM (NWiLs)

151 Here's a plausible scenario for having two Presidents:
A number of states have passed or are passing laws to keep a candidate off the ballot if they do not release their tax returns. PDJT does not release his returns and is not on the ballot in one or more states. On election day He loses the electoral college by a few points. He files suit and appeals on the grounds that releasing tax returns is not a constitutional requirement for President. While the court process is playing out, the Democrat-dominated Electors vote in Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: motionview at August 18, 2019 10:24 AM (pYQR/)

152 Autocucumber is really fucking with me this morning.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:25 AM (y7DUB)

153 The more older I get, the more I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing Christians can do.

The fact that the Hong Kong protestors are singing hymns reinforces this.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)
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The older I get, the less I care if anyone is offended when I come right out and proclaim that I am a Christian that believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 18, 2019 10:25 AM (WEBkv)

154 Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:20 AM (mpXpK)

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Yes, but again, this is a matter of corporate policy... subject to change without notice... the content still doesn't belong to their customers in any legal sense.

It's like going to a museum. You pay for your ticket to enter. But if the museum decides to have a guard walk in, take the painting you're viewing off the wall and set fire to it, they're completely within their rights to do that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:25 AM (+Vf+y)

155 "I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one
another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing
Christians can do."

imo, it is parallel to the constitution. Individual sovereignty, but cooperation is needed in fighting coordinated enemies. That is true in the community, and to other extents, nationally, or maybe across the West. Certainly the left's 4GW (my new bone, got it in my teeth for now, ha) ... the enemy has infiltrated churches as part of their PsyOp war to divide us. It was clearly an old Soviet tactic ... (and probably the devilish tactic going back to the Apostle Paul)

And as with government, the individual must be always diligent or they lose control to centralized power, and that power corrupts.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (Cus5s)

156 I found myself reading junk just because it was free.


One of the beauties of Kindle is how many of the classics are free. If it's out of copyright it's likely free on Kindle.

I'm charging mine right now so I can't check but I've downloaded Melville, Conrad, Twain, Turgenev, Conan Doye (the putz!), Cervantes, Henry James (mentioned above, I hated "The American", but at least now I've read it), and more all for absolutely free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (fuK7c)

157 Bill Maher called the BDS movement "a bullshit purity test by people who want to appear woke but actually slept through history class," and Ratshit Taliban can't deal.

Rashida Tlaib@RashidaTlaib

Maybe folks should boycott his show.

I am tired of folks discrediting a form of speech that is centered on equality and freedom. This is exactly how they tried to discredit and stop the boycott to stand up against the apartheid in S. Africa. It didn't work then and it won't now.

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I'm not sure that promising to make Israel into the glory that is South Africa is as powerful an argument as you think it is, Ratshit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (+y/Ru)

158 Our pastor does expositional reading tbrough romans acts and were finishing with luke he also provides much of the context to the events of the times
Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (uWSeN)
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That's so important, isn't it? It makes a world of difference, to me anyway.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (aXucN)

159 And of course, personal prayer to God is always encouraged! But Sunday worship for us is a must.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (aXucN)
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For me, Sunday worship is where I go to escape the world and refocus on what matters.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)

160 I thought Amazon said that 1984 snafu was not for all copies of the book, only for one version that was the subject of a copyright infringement suit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (NVYyb)


Yes, the version was sold by a publisher that didn't hold the copyright to the appropriate region or something. It wasn't Amazon just being jerks on general principle; if they hadn't pulled it, they'd be on the hook for facilitating copyright infringement, same as if someone in Eastern Europe were to sell bootleg digital copies of a cookbook that was under copyright. And they gave refunds, apologized, and said they wouldn't do it again. But it did happen, and could again. Even if they no longer have the ability to remotely remove the book, they can withhold the decryption key.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y23wsp4r

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:27 AM (t+qrx)

161 It is not a mortal sin to miss Sunday Mass. "For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: 'Mortal sin is a sin whose object is a grave matter and is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."

The five precepts of the Catholic Church:

1. You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor.

2. You shall confess your sins at least once a year.

3. You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season.

4. You shall observe the days of fasting and abstinence established by the Church.

5. You shall help to provide the needs of the Church.



It

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:29 AM (I5SAg)

162 One thing that would immensely help any reader who is not familiar with the Mississippi Gulf Coast, Hearn should have provided at least one map to help visualize the locales.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (6zCBb)


Inexcusable. To understand any historical event the reader has to know "where did this happen and what were things like around it".

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:29 AM (y7DUB)

163 JAS, it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday without a good reason. If you knowingly miss Mass just because you don't feel like going, for example, that's a grave matter committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.

Ask your priest about this if you don't believe me.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:31 AM (aXucN)

164 JAS, it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday without a good reason.

So what are you doing here, child? Scurry off to Mass!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:32 AM (fuK7c)

165 One of the other vignettes that sticks with me after reading Hearn's book is that of one survivor who is witnessing his double French doors popping off the hinges and his Olds 88 trying to float into the house due to the storm surge. He had to open the doors on the car to make it sink and then remembered he had put in the trunk of the car for safekeeping all the electronics from his boat. After Camille no trace of the boat was ever found.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:33 AM (6zCBb)

166 Way ahead of you, Bander. We went to 8:00 Mass.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:33 AM (aXucN)

167 finally got thru to the eye doc - he left vm that he'd see me at 1 today
hopefully it's another big nothing
thanks horde

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 10:35 AM (+72t1)

168 John Batchelor is a great interviewer. He has a wide variety of guests.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (nDe2U)



Once upon a time, he was known as -

John Calvin Batchelor....a novelist!


He wrote two pretty good novels -

"The Birth of The Peoples Republic of Antarctica" -

which I believe most morons would like.

And-

"American Falls" - near great book concerning NYC in the Civil War times, but he loves his characters too much to bring the book to a satisfactory end.

He wrote several others not nearly as good.

Plus, a TIME reviewed, log-rolling success thriller titled-

"Father's Day" - not very good, however good enough to be optioned for a (never produced?) movie. All the cliches of it's time are there.

JCB admitted that he wrote it to enable him to pay for college for his daughter...so mission accomplished!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 10:35 AM (mIQCW)

169 So sorry bluebell. A grave matter is a biggie. Like Grand theft, or murder. Grave means grave. Serious. btw, I attend Mass every Sunday and on holy days of obligation.

1855: "Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law. It turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:36 AM (I5SAg)

170 Oecolampadius, Sermons on 1John: A Handbook for the Christian Life, covers one of the most important and most basic letters in the Bible.

Posted by: Slow learner at August 18, 2019 10:38 AM (zVPWv)

171 1858: "Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments,..."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (I5SAg)

172 Or as the storm waters of Camille destroys the house around them; a woman and her disabled sister join in praying to God as the maid reads aloud from the Bible while holding a hammer in one hand.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (6zCBb)

173 JAS, I think you should ask your priest about this.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (aXucN)

174 I'm not sure that promising to make Israel into the glory that is South Africa is as powerful an argument as you think it is, Ratshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (+y/Ru)


One of my kollidge roomies was a consultant on designing and building prisons. He travelled to a lot of places that wouldn't be on my A list to visit; he absolutely loved being in Mexico City, for example. South Africa was the only place where he felt constantly at risk and couldn't get out of there soon enough.

The do gooders really screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (y7DUB)

175 164 JAS, it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday without a good reason.
So what are you doing here, child? Scurry off to Mass!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:32 AM (fuK7c)


( *Ponders* ) I wonder if I could petition the Pope to give special dispensations to morons who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (JVrQi)

176 Sermons on 1John: A Handbook for the Christian Life, covers one of the most important and most basic letters in the Bible.

Posted by: Slow learner at August 18, 2019 10:38 AM (zVPWv)


John is much less 'Ooooo Ahhhh Wow!' than the other Gospels, and much more 'Jesus is God - and here's why.' There are only 7 miracles described in John.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:40 AM (lwiT4)

177 Part 3, Article 8 of the Catechism is very straightforward.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (I5SAg)

178

Willful murder and missing Mass are both Mortal Sins which will condemn your soul to Hell forever?

Can you buy an Indulgence to miss Mass?

Posted by: Ouch at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (qul7b)

179 156 One of the beauties of Kindle is how many of the classics are free. If it's out of copyright it's likely free on Kindle.



I'm charging mine right now so I can't check but I've downloaded
Melville, Conrad, Twain, Turgenev, Conan Doye (the putz!), Cervantes,
Henry James (mentioned above, I hated "The American", but at least now
I've read it), and more all for absolutely free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (fuK7c)


If you go to Gutenberg you can download it for free. But I have had a lot of difficulty getting it to my device and having it recognize it as there.. Amazon charges a small fee for those and I just go ahead and get it from them.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (mpXpK)

180 Once again, I am linking an essay from Gatestone, which is relevant to today's discussion of Christianity and observance:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org /14691/extinction-christians-middle-east

The torturous summer cold that has just about done me in is finally breaking up and maybe I can concentrate for longer than 30 mins (a short essay) and get back to regular books.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (MIKMs)

181
'Jesus is God - and here's why.' There are only 7 miracles described in John...Number 5 will shock you!!!

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182 South Africa was the only place where he felt constantly at risk and couldn't get out of there soon enough.




Thanks for that. My daughter is in South Africa as we speak

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:42 AM (lwiT4)

183 ( *Ponders* ) I wonder if I could petition the Pope to give special dispensations to morons who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (JVrQi)


Only if we have a joint reading of Das Kapital and like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (y7DUB)

184 - 145 insomniac: that's very interesting.

- so who's the guy reading in the library? bruce lee?

- ok, i'm watching tv, not reading, and lindsey graham is walking tall on maria bartiromo (who does a bang-up job, generally).

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (Pg+x7)

185 As Camille did the unexpected and stayed on course to hit the coast, Paul Williams took shelter with his wife, his children, and two grand children in Trinity Episcopal Church in Pass Christian. By the break of day on the 18th, Paul Williams had lost his wife, all but two of his children, one grand child was killed, and the other grand child was never found.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (6zCBb)

186 Hi, Grammie. Thanks for the tip. I think the book of sermons, though, is on the First Epistle of John, as I recall, not the Gospel. Have a great day. I'll go hunting for those miracles!

Posted by: Slow learner at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (zVPWv)

187 Sorry guys, didn't mean to derail the Book Thread.

More on topic, I am reading through the Flavia de Luce books recommended by Eris, and they are just the thing for bedtime reading - light, funny, and mysterious! Many thanks to you, Eris, if you are here.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)

188 ... graham on russia-gate, not red flag laws, i.e.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (Pg+x7)

189 Missing Mass is a violation of the Precepts of the Church. But I bristle when someone calls it a mortal sin.

2041: "...The obligatory character of these positive laws decreed ... is meant to guarantee to the faithful the very necessary minimum in the spirit of prayer and moral effort, in the growth in love of God and neighbor."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:46 AM (I5SAg)

190 Nice library! Do they have a permanent display for the Weiner-Mobile?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at August 18, 2019 10:46 AM (XuBZu)

191 One of the beauties of Kindle is how many of the classics are free. If it's out of copyright it's likely free on Kindle.

I'm charging mine right now so I can't check but I've downloaded Melville, Conrad, Twain, Turgenev, Conan Doye (the putz!), Cervantes, Henry James (mentioned above, I hated "The American", but at least now I've read it), and more all for absolutely free.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (fuK7c)


We among the Horde have had this debate before. Digital media certainly has a portability advantage over books. But digital media is not permanent and can deleted/altered easily by the Big Brother. The only way I'm losing my books to the Thought Police is if they show up on my door-step (and then I have more immediate concerns than propaganda messages).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 10:46 AM (5Yee7)

192 Thanks for that. My daughter is in South Africa as we speak

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:42 AM (lwiT4)


He might've been in a really bad area compared to her. Iirc Jane D'oh vacationed there and didn't like it much.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

193 Last night on the Movie Thread people mentioned the slow, nothingness of the movie-

"Stalker".

However, "Stalker" is based on one of the greatest SF novellas of all time IMHO-

"A Roadside Picnic" by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky

Hard to find cheap. But, very much worth the read.

Buy it today.



"Stalker" is but a pale shadow of "Roadside Picnic".


Though in fairness to Tarkovsky, "Stalker" was to be a movie that adhered much more closely to the written story with great (for the time) special effects.

Unfortunately, the lab with all of the special effects footage burned to the ground(if I'm remembering correctly) and destroyed every bit of those parts of the film.

They couldn't afford to redo those parts.

So, Tarkovsky re-editted and reshot some scenes and it "Stalker" became the slow, pointless movie you know and love where people talk a lot about the dangers or difficulties which we, the movie goers, never see or experience.

Pro-Tip: Movies are a visual medium.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (mIQCW)

194 For reasons I don't understand, I'm reading rock and roll biographies at the moment. First I read Pete Townshend's "Who I Am," and now I'm reading Keith Richard's "Life."

Strangely enough, the latter is way more accessible and interesting than the former.


Also, if you're going to invite a living member of The Who over to your house, it should be Roger Daltrey.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (AkkRZ)

195 More on topic, I am reading through the Flavia de
Luce books recommended by Eris, and they are just the thing for bedtime
reading - light, funny, and mysterious! Many thanks to you, Eris, if
you are here.





Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)



I love Flavia. I wish the author would write another book in the series, but it looks like the last book was published several years ago. Nothing since.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (lwiT4)

196 116 -

Yes, if you want to talk about cryptic, read John.

Posted by: Matthew, Mark, and Luke at August 18, 2019 10:48 AM (oaP2c)

197 I'm on a discussion board about Vorführeffekt and no one can come up with an English equivalent.....


There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".

====

My I try this ? How about "fail". Not as a verb, but a noun ? And not "failure" ?

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:48 AM (bUjCl)

198 'the demonstration effect' refers to a situation in which something stops working, and then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.

It's like when you're having trouble explaining just how corrupt the Clintons are--and then they off Epstein.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 18, 2019 10:48 AM (Ndje9)

199 Razorfist: Epstein is fake noose.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (LxTcq)

200 love Flavia. I wish the author would write another book in the series, but it looks like the last book was published several years ago. Nothing since.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (lwiT4)
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Oh no! Your comment made me run to do a search, and I found his website. His latest blog entry is from Feb. 2, 2019 announcing "The Golden Tresses of the Dead," so hopefully he is still writing.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (aXucN)

201 194 shibumi:

keith richards is a voracious reader and has a very large library.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (Pg+x7)

202 Re childrens' books --

The illustrator of that prayer one did a lot back in the day. One of my kids was absolutely in love with her illustrations and wanted to 'live there' in those simple stories. I never figured out what enthralled her so much, but stocked up on as many as I could find. She is not much of a reader still.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (MIKMs)

203 I don't use Amazon for books very often, because of the possibility of them snatching them back. The few I have I have stripped the drm and placed them in my Calibre ebook management system. They can't get to them there.

Posted by: Abby at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (eejEu)

204 OK, got enough juice into my Kindle to fisk this:

But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it.

If it doesn't have a checkmark it's in your library but you haven't downloaded it.* The check means that you have downloaded it and it's resident on your device.

If you clear space for new books the cleared books are still in your library and can be re-downloaded later, but any book resident on your device is yours and will stay there without maintenance.

(With the sole exception of the 1984 incident).

And as to the copyright and ownership by Amazon quoted above, they're saying that either they or their partners own the copyright and are therefore entitled to sell it to you.

*It is also possible to share a library with someone. I share mine with a 'ette because it seemed like a fun idea at the time but our reading lists have absolutely nothing in common. So, I can see her books but they're not mine until I download them to my Kindle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (fuK7c)

205 Oh, I don't think I have anything to add to the church discussion. Carry on...

I'm on the road anyway.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (oaP2c)

206 keith richards is a voracious reader and has a very large library.


the keith richards ?

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (bUjCl)

207 Only if we have a joint reading of Das Kapital and like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (y7DUB)


The AoSHQ Fact Check algorithm rates this statement: Probably true.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (JVrQi)

208 His latest blog entry is from Feb. 2, 2019 announcing "The Golden Tresses of the Dead," so hopefully he is still writing.





Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (aXucN)



I did read that one. For some reason I thought it was from 2011. Duh. I hZ teh dumZ.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (lwiT4)

209 imo too many denominations become "institutionalized", and the tendency toward "whited sepulchers" is nothing new. A social vibrancy between "members" (or just neighbors?) is perhaps more important than devotion to a cold bureaucracy.


That is not an easy thing to maintain ... church elders have to pull a lot of weight, getting involved with families, reaching out to address personal needs ... more actual ministering as a servant, not lording over as an authority. .... Bureaucracy creep is also parallel to government concentration of power. Family is the first level of importance for Christian parents, imo. As with schools, one can't just turn the kids over to the bureaucracy and expect them to do magically implant Christianity, or goodness, whatever.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (Cus5s)

210 Yeah so number 6 is upside down, but where is #9 I wanted to check out.......can I just read #6 upside down till you cheapskates BUY #9!

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (5IHGB)

211 206 keith richards is a voracious reader and has a very large library.
the keith richards ?
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (bUjCl)


Yes. I posted a pic of his library on the book thread two three years ago.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (JVrQi)

212 Read "Quick and Dirty" by Stuart Woods, which is what I would call a fun, beach mystery- as in a book that is pretty well plotted with a mystery that does not require a lot of thinking that you could read relaxing on the beach.
It is full of rich people in New York (which includes the investigator attorney Stone Barrington) and is about an art theft. There are other books with the main character in them.

Don't regret reading it and probably will read one or two more if I want light reading, but will not go out of my way to track down and read every book in the series.

Posted by: Charlotte at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (Rwqrz)

213 If you go to Gutenberg you can download it for free. But I have had a lot of difficulty getting it to my device and having it recognize it as there.. Amazon charges a small fee for those and I just go ahead and get it from them.
Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (mpXpK)


If you're willing to do the work, the Calibre app (and probably others) will let you format the free content from Gutenberg (or anywhere else) for viewing on Kindle. Lots of control over typesetting, images, and such. But there's nothing wrong with paying someone to do the formatting for you either.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (t+qrx)

214 HaHa...the upside book reminds me of one of the greatest high school pranks I have ever heard of: A friend grew up in farm country, and on the last day of school, a group of seniors released 3 baby piglets into the school. They were numbered 1, 2 and 4.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 10:55 AM (ty7RM)

215 Yes. I posted a pic of his library on the book thread two three years ago.


huh, interesting.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (bUjCl)

216 I did read that one. For some reason I thought it was from 2011. Duh. I hZ teh dumZ.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (lwiT4)
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Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (aXucN)

217 The book thread what shows Keith Richards' personal library:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=359842

Warning: Do NOT post on old threads. That's a autobanning offense.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (JVrQi)

218 Well the Bible is the book, why libraries were institited why thr print___ press came about.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (uWSeN)

219 Don't regret reading it and probably will read one
or two more if I want light reading, but will not go out of my way to
track down and read every book in the series.


Posted by: Charlotte at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (Rwqrz)



The neighbor lady had a garage sale with lots of Stuart Woods books. I took them all but haven't gotten around to reading them yet. The font is not unbearingly small, so I should be okay with them. That's what I like about my paperwhite - I can set the font size and boldness.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (lwiT4)

220 The Milanese do a nice Starbucks...but where are the homeless and horde?OK it's morning Report time and I'm first in line for Caligula unexpurgated.

Oh it's closed for Bidens' RALLY.......or interment.

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 10:57 AM (5IHGB)

221 I was in Gulfport, Miss. during Camille. A few things I remember well; the howling noise and blackness, the drifts of roofing shingles, and the human behaviors dealing with the stress of living in the aftermath.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 18, 2019 10:58 AM (knNho)

222 Elizabeth Peters was a very good writer/storyteller. Interesting that she lost so much cachet because her books were 'popular' -- Barbara Mertz, PhD, was dissed because of her popular writing. I think similar to Barbara Tuchman in being denigrated because of her popularity.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 18, 2019 10:59 AM (MIKMs)

223 Also, if you're going to invite a living member of The Who over to your house, it should be Roger Daltrey.
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (AkkRZ)


I would've never guessed that but his performance with that dimwit reporter over Brexit showed some Moron affinities. Plus wasn't Townsend accused of child porn? Sorry but lacking some reason the state would plant it on you that's a major red flag to even be accused. And some musicians are noted regular porn fans who've steered clear of that; John Mayall for example.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:59 AM (y7DUB)

224 213 If you're willing to do the work, the Calibre app
(and probably others) will let you format the free content from
Gutenberg (or anywhere else) for viewing on Kindle. Lots of control over
typesetting, images, and such. But there's nothing wrong with paying
someone to do the formatting for you either.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (t+qrx)'
I don't think Gutenburg books have DRM on them.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (mpXpK)

225 Oh no, grammie - I was doing a little more searching, and on his agency's website it says "The Golden Tresses" is the 10th and final book in the series. Waaaaah!

https://tinyurl.com/y2axaef6

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (aXucN)

226 Oh the Keef library and stories are awesome.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (fuK7c)

227 Jinx, you should contact the University of Southern Mississippi to see if they are still compiling oral histories of Camille survivors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 11:02 AM (6zCBb)

228 Oh no, grammie - I was doing a little more searching, and on his
agency's website it says "The Golden Tresses" is the 10th and final book
in the series. Waaaaah!



Oh crap. That little Flavia really gets to me. I will miss her. A wonderful character.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 11:02 AM (lwiT4)

229 Thank you, OM. That was good to see. I do not remember that one.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:03 AM (bUjCl)

230 Oh crap. That little Flavia really gets to me. I will miss her. A wonderful character.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 11:02 AM (lwiT4)
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Me too. We'll have to ask Eris to find us something new.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:03 AM (aXucN)

231 I'm reading one of Fred Saberhagen's Berserker collections, The Ultimate Enemy. These stories are set in a universe where self-replicating machines whose only goal is to destroy life are menacing through human civilization as it exists in the future in numerous solar systems. It is guessed that the machines were built by an ancient, extinct civilization who intended they be used to wipe out their enemies and then they lost control of them (hence, extinct).

They're not great, but they're still quite enjoyable, and there's a bunch of them. Saberhagen was a Catholic, and he also wrote a book entitled Love Conquers All which I think is about abortion, but I haven't read it.

Posted by: Jim S. at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (ynUnH)

232 Weak Geek...the Amber series actually goes on for ten books. They've all been collected into a big ol' single volume, too, which I tried to get for my grandson this past Christmas, but someone had scarfed it already at BandN when I went to buy it. (It had been on the shelf for several months!)
All Zelazny's books are worth a read. Fourteen Hugo nominations, seven wins, back when it meant something

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (XuBZu)

233 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (aVNi6)

234 "1, 2 and 4"

I laughed at that one.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (RuhkN)

235 Are there any techie morons/ettes around this a.m.? I an older Garmin Nuvi that I love; I drive 35K mi/year, and love the heads up display. I am sick of updating a 12 y/o piece of hardware at $50.00 a pop, though. It's going to fail.
Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?
If anyone has direct experience, I'd like to know. I found a nice silicon mount cheap on Amazon; it doesn't use suction cups, it sits on dash.
It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ty7RM)

236 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (aVNi6)


Prove it.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (bUjCl)

237 229 Thank you, OM. That was good to see. I do not remember that one.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:03 AM (bUjCl)


Heh. Turns out I posted that one nearly four years ago. Los of water under the bridge and lots of book threads gone by since then.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (JVrQi)

238 Keith's autobio is quite good. Opening scene of the Stones getting busted in the Deep South before their 1975 tour is hilarious.

Biggest reveal: Keith loved being a British boy scout

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (+HkAB)

239 235
Are there any techie morons/ettes around this a.m.? I an older Garmin
Nuvi that I love; I drive 35K mi/year, and love the heads up display. I
am sick of updating a 12 y/o piece of hardware at $50.00 a pop, though.
It's going to fail.

Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?

If anyone has direct experience, I'd like to know. I found a nice
silicon mount cheap on Amazon; it doesn't use suction cups, it sits on
dash.

It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ty7RM)

The new Garmins have free updates. Mine does.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

240 I don't think Gutenburg books have DRM on them.
Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (mpXpK)


They don't, but not all of them are formatted for comfortable reading. Depending on how they were uploaded, some of them aren't broken up into chapters, footnotes aren't linked in the text, and so on. They may just be the original text.

If you have one that's just a long text file, you can use Calibre to add chapter breaks and footnote links and inline images.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:07 AM (t+qrx)

241 "My plan is: read this book and Pop-Pop is going to give you a reward." retired Buckeye Cop

excellent, and a brief discussion with you to accent some highlights, add insights. Involved grandparents can really enrich a child's life, imo.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 11:07 AM (Cus5s)

242 Do you suppose Jeffrey Epstein had a library?

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 11:07 AM (RuhkN)

243 We are off to visit my friend and her 96-year-old mother - see you all later!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aXucN)

244 Print is dead.

Posted by: Egon Spengler at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aVNi6)

245 Prove it.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (bUjCl)


I said it, didn't I?

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aVNi6)

246 In Houston I found a used copy of Dario Fernandez-Morera's The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise.

This is an ISI book, like Spencer's Did Muhammad Exist? and - more to the point - Reilly's The Closing of the Muslim Mind. It cites Emmet Scott's Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited; which was NERP, not ISI, but both books are of the same stripe. They're all controversialist monographs, and not narrative histories. They are also all ranty and error-riddled.

Fernandez - I think that's how you're supposed to use last names in Spanish - does collect an impressive array of facts. So did Spencer and Scott, and maybe Reilly (I didn't check).

Before Fernandez, it was common for Islam apologists in the West to discuss Islamic Spain as an "ornament of the world" practicing cross-religious "convivencia". Fernandez points out that the Muslims destroyed Roman civilisation in Spain, which the Vandals and Visigoths had NOT done; Spanish art, literature, and architecture all went into a dark age. As for "convivencia", this worked like Jim Crow worked in the old American South. Everyone got along as long as everyone knew their place, which was about fourth place for Christian and Jewish dhimmis.

For all this book's faults, I do think its message got across to historians of Muslim-era Spain. It helps that Fernandez rubs the Islam apologists' nose in their own tu- er, words.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (ykYG2)

247 Ray Bradbury Something Wicked This Way Comes is a coming-of-age story, perhaps THE coming-of-age story. I got it on CD so I could listen to it on the drive.

The circus is coming to town, in late October, and it's really magic. There's a carousel which changes peoples' ages, which someone uses to relive his youth. Two local boys Jim Nightshade and Will Halloway witness this, and foil the plot, but the carnies find out and attempt revenge.

I get the impression Stephen King liked this story a lot and ripped off its main themes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (ykYG2)

248 Here is the new 5" Garmin with lifetime free updates.

https://tinyurl.com/y5meu4xe

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (mpXpK)

249 Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:42 AM

Hope not for long, don't read anything good about that country these days.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (BbGew)

250 Heh. Turns out I posted that one nearly four years ago. Los of water under the bridge and lots of book threads gone by since then.
Posted by: OregonMuse.


==

Right ? That Donald Trump character may yet have a chance at this Presidency thingy. Richard's quote is surprisingly ...profound !

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (bUjCl)

251 Nice pic! Little known fact hordlings: Pater Redux is an alumnus of the University of Bologna Medical School! Ended up as a surgeon (Major, US Army, retired, CO of an EVAC in Viet Nam) Became an OB/GYN (Had enough of seeing people die - wanted to bring life into the world!) and retired fully about 20 years ago.

He went back to teach a class to the foreign med students about 25 years ago and I went with him. It was a truly great experience and the University gave him a villa in the hills above Florence to use for a month.

The other interesting factoid - Pater Redux was born in Brooklyn and did not speak a word of Italian before going (!). The Redux's are Irish on one side and Italian on the other.

Anyhoo. always nice to see the dadster's alma mater.

So - Anyone seen Fenelon today? When does he take his hiatus. Fenelon - if you are still listening in - best of luck with everything and speak to you when you get.

Also - In Singapore most of this week - glad to be missing the Hong Kong craziness - but have o g back in a few days.

Pax Ex!

Posted by: Publius Redux at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (O7Q7l)

252 The first story in Ultimate Enemy called "The Smile" is certainly an interesting take on how to get revenge. Plus something of a who dunnit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (6zCBb)

253 Heh. Turns out I posted that one nearly four years ago. Los of water under the bridge and lots of book threads gone by since then.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (JVrQi)


Love it. It must have been when I was on a voluntary hiatus.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (y7DUB)

254 Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?

Waze. It's a combination GPS and social media. Not like chat with each other social media, but sharing information.

Users report accidents, traffic, cops, etc. Waze will steer you around bad scenes based on current user reports. (Why is it telling me to get off at Exit 22? I know I'm going to 36. Yeah, well, a car is on fire down the road. We're getting off at 22 and taking some back roads).

And it has the turn right in 5.4 miles, it's 42 miles to your destination, you'll get there at 12:15, and it's free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

255 All your print are belong we much!

Posted by: Baghdad Al at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (XuBZu)

256 We are off to visit my friend and her 96-year-old mother - see you all later!
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aXucN)


My grandmother just turned 95. She takes no medicines, only a shot of Flonase in each nostril once a day.

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (aVNi6)

257
It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM


Waze is the app yo want

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (KCxzN)

258 then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.

"Looks fine to me. Ship it!"

Posted by: Your Manager at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (NAs56)

259 Vowed not to get a book in e-book if I really want it for life.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (BbGew)

260 Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?
If anyone has direct experience, I'd like to know. I found a nice silicon mount cheap on Amazon; it doesn't use suction cups, it sits on dash.
It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ty7RM)


I use either Waze or Rever.

Garmin has a navigation app called Drive, 4/5 stars. Have you looked into that?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (t+qrx)

261 I said it, didn't I?

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No. You typed it. FAIL.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (bUjCl)

262 257


It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.



Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM



Waze is the app yo want

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (KCxzN)

My wife's Toyota came with a map program on it. But she still prefers her Garmin as it is much easier to use.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:11 AM (mpXpK)

263 167 finally got thru to the eye doc - he left vm that he'd see me at 1 today
hopefully it's another big nothing
thanks horde
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 10:35 AM (+72t1)

Yay. You'll let us know.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 11:11 AM (2VrwR)

264 Never mind about Garmin Drive, I just downloaded it and it looks like it wants to connect to a Garmin device.

Like others have mentioned, Waze is very good about real-time traffic conditions and routes. It also has a speed function and an optional overspeed warning for the road you're on.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:13 AM (t+qrx)

265 The closest phrase in software is "Bug Closed: Can Not Reproduce"

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 11:14 AM (QrTqV)

266 The closest phrase in software is "Bug Closed: Can Not Reproduce"


I misspent a couple of years in SQA.

You could always tell the developers were pissed when they wrote FAD, functions as designed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:16 AM (fuK7c)

267 Official Soothsayer Prediction:

I guarantee, that within the next 5 years, this whole turning the clocks back/forward will be deemed racist, if it hasn't already.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 01, 2015 10:56 AM (DgBcT)

Only a few months left. Want to walk that back or stick with it, Soothie?

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (vqIkG)

268 I thinknI have those pants

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (+72t1)

269 > Discover Conservative Fiction Authors

I started a very long fantasy series by Terry Goodkind. He seems to be conservative. In the first book, he has a peasant denouncing a socialist agriculture plan (shortly before he's executed) without saying the word socialist.

I've heard that he gets somewhat Randian around the 7th or 8th book then swings back.

The first book's title is "Wizard's First Rule". I'm about 2/3rds through and am enjoying it a lot.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (PE3lH)

270 No. You typed it. FAIL.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (bUjCl)


How do you know I didn't say it while typing?

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (aVNi6)

271 Free books/download with amazon prime from Kindle store.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (bUjCl)

272 > 267 Official Soothsayer Prediction:

I guarantee, that within the next 5 years, this whole turning the clocks back/forward will be deemed racist, if it hasn't already.
Posted by: Soothsayer,

Only a few months left. Want to walk that back or stick with it, Soothie?
Posted by: Booky MacBookface

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36 states are looking into ending it.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/Permanent-Daylight-Saving-Time-550145631.html

Posted by: ArthurK at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (PE3lH)

273 How do you know I didn't say it while typing?


You probably mumbled it and we don't hear that well. Plus, your accent is stupid and your voice has no timbre. You really shouldn't bother talking, it just annoys people.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (fuK7c)

274 I need to learn to read. Still got over a year.

Posted by: Durnitt MacDurnittface at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (vqIkG)

275 Christianity and Islam in Spain: AS 756-1031. 1889
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15262/15262-h/15262-h.htm

History of the Moors in Spain. 1840
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22337/pg22337.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 11:20 AM (6zCBb)

276 You probably mumbled it and we don't hear that well. Plus, your accent is stupid and your voice has no timbre. You really shouldn't bother talking, it just annoys people.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (fuK7c)


Who are you, my wife?

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:20 AM (aVNi6)

277 How do you know I didn't say it while typing?
Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (aVNi6)


"if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound ?"

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bUjCl)

278 Just finished First Man, an excellent authorized biography of Neil Armstrong by James Hanson. I continue my obsession with Apollo 11 and all things space travel!

Also just finished a very good short novel called A Funny Thing Happened On The Moon, by Joey Rogers. Well-conceived and well-written, fast-paced and sympathetic characters, the story was great and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bQngX)

279 Plus wasn't Townsend accused of child porn?

Yes, Townsend was accused of child porn and took a plea. He explains it in the book. Basically, he was doing a search for something an ran across it years ago, and was appalled; he suspects he was raped as a young boy. It bothered him, and he decided that since you have to put in a credit card that the banks were complicit in it-- which is correct-- and he wanted to catch them at it. So he put in his credit card and went no further. He was going to write an expose on it.

Well, he got grabbed in a bust, and advised to take a plea. Much later, it did come out that there was proof he never went past the payment page.


And yes, his explanation sounds incredible and stupid, but he has a bit of the White Knight syndrome, which he admits. Also, musicians are that stupid.

Finally, Mick Jagger is a jackass.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:23 AM (AkkRZ)

280 >>>Even if it's these pants

Why did I click that.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 11:24 AM (2VrwR)

281 CNN is pushing the movement to stop advertising on extremist web sites. Some examples? Breitbart and Gateway.

The lefts assault on free speech is just getting started.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 18, 2019 11:25 AM (htyuy)

282 267 I guarantee, that within the next 5 years, this
whole turning the clocks back/forward will be deemed racist, if it
hasn't already.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 01, 2015 10:56 AM (DgBcT)



Only a few months left. Want to walk that back or stick with it, Soothie?

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (vqIkG)

A lot of States have already gotten rid of it. The only people that want it or the merchants who think they sell more by being open while there is light. Doesn't seem to effect 24/7 stores like Walmart. My State will probably never get rid of it.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:25 AM (mpXpK)

283 ( *Ponders* ) I wonder if I could petition the Pope to give special dispensations to morons who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM


I don't think you have to go all the way to the Pope to get a dispensation for not wearing pants for the Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 11:28 AM (DMUuz)

284 I like 10pm sunsets in June and July. So Im all for dst.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 18, 2019 11:29 AM (htyuy)

285 There is a book called French Classics on Kindle. Yay ! Wait , 120 pages ?? That can't be right...and then you read reviews to find out what's in it.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:29 AM (bUjCl)

286 Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)

I may just be in the wrong mental space, but I find those books (especially the interactions with-in the family) to be extremely sad.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 18, 2019 11:29 AM (uquGJ)

287 86- It would seem that that is why I have Samuel L. Clemon's copy of Gulliver's Travels.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 18, 2019 11:30 AM (w7U7L)

288 SC does have a bill to make daylight savings time year round instead of specific months but congress must pas a law to give States this option. They could have killed it with no action for congress but they sneaked this fake shit in so people will be fooled into saying the did something.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:30 AM (mpXpK)

289 And yes, his explanation sounds incredible and stupid, but he has a bit of the White Knight syndrome, which he admits. Also, musicians are that stupid.

Finally, Mick Jagger is a jackass.
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:23 AM (AkkRZ)


Thank you for that explanation; I'll revise my opinion accordingly to less of a perv and more of a dumbass.

And absolutely the latter.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

290 One of the Antifa soy boys arrested in Portland Saturday had a T-shirt reading "BETA CUCK 4 LYFE". I am not making this up, and it was confirmed when he was unmasked by police. I'm sorry, but you can't "reclaim" that.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 18, 2019 11:32 AM (6XLoz)

291 I'm sorry, but you can't "reclaim" that.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 18, 2019 11:32 AM (6XLoz)


"This mulch contains 50% post-consumer reclaimed Antifa by weight"

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:34 AM (t+qrx)

292 i pointed out keith richards is a big reader to explain why his autobiography biography might be well written. which actually brings up an interesting question - how important is extensive reading to good writing? i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)

293 I just finished the Flavia book with the terrible ending and I agree, very sad.
Midway through the next one

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (+72t1)

294 i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)


I think it's similar to music or graphic art - appreciation and creation are two separate but complementary things.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:40 AM (t+qrx)

295 I want to turn the clocks back to 1954.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:40 AM (+y/Ru)

296 i pointed out keith richards is a big reader to explain why his autobiography biography might be well written. which actually brings up an interesting question - how important is extensive reading to good writing? i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)

I agree with you on both. Reading improves one's writing. Or at least it should. Good writing is artistry, and is a gift.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:42 AM (bUjCl)

297 Writing is an art and a craft. You study the craft by reading other writers.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:43 AM (fuK7c)

298 i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)


A good editor can make good writing great. Gordon Lish, not a particularly compelling writer, turned Raymond Carver's writing into something I couldn't put down by cutting large swaths out of it. Carver and his whore enabler complained about it and eventually just started releasing wordy substandard crap where you had to cut through the brush to find the underlying essence. The dimwit crits praised it anyway, which illustrated why Nabokov held them in such obvious contempt.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:45 AM (y7DUB)

299 Warning: Do NOT post on old threads. That's a autobanning offense.

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Drumhead court-martial followed by immediate execution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:48 AM (+y/Ru)

300 290 One of the Antifa soy boys arrested in Portland Saturday had a T-shirt reading "BETA CUCK 4 LYFE". I

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Bullshit!! I don't believe it. No way the Portland police arrested anyone from Antifa!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 18, 2019 11:48 AM (Yevmp)

301 "Over the M mountain,I'll be waiting at the K K K kitchen door."

I'm embarrassed to admit that's from memory.
Posted by: creeper"

Also known as "The Stuttering Song". Just over a 100 years old now, was a big hit way back then. It's got two strikes against it, even though it's in no way racist. I don't think it's ever coming back.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 11:49 AM (Tnijr)

302 I have just learned that Heidi Klum calls her boobs Hans and Franz.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (fuK7c)

303 Writing is an art and a craft. You study the craft by reading other writers.

Agreed. It would appear that I've somehow turned into a professional freelance writer, and I really don't read new American fiction, since it's mass market stuff. I read mostly older European fiction or really, really weird world fictition. I know this makes me sound like a pretentious snob, but I actually like wird stuff, so..it is what it is.


Want to take a great fiction trip? Read "The Wild Sheep Chase" by Murakami. Amazing, amazing book and plot.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)

304 ou est la Bibliotheque Marco?


Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (5IHGB)



Polo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 11:53 AM (hjWzb)

305 .... which actually brings up an interesting question - how important is extensive reading to good writing? believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)


If by "writer," you mean an author of fiction, then I would agree somewhat. However, a person with an extensive history of reading should do better writing non-fiction than a person who doesn't read extensively for entertainment. For example, most engineers are atrocious when it comes to technical writing and many don't read anything else but poorly written technical papers. On the other hand, the engineer in his mid-20s with whom I share an office is a good writer but he reads for fun and likes older books.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 11:53 AM (5Yee7)

306 Close to finishing "The Last Mission", about the last B-29 raid of the war.


A quick read and nothing wrong with it, but pretty thin - mostly the co-author's pretty well done summary of the struggle within the Japanese leadership over how to respond to the Potsdam Declaration, including the attempted coup against the Emperor's surrender decision and the effort to prevent broadcast of his recorded address, wrapped around a spare account of the mission from the radioman on one of the planes.


The final 24 hours leading up to the broadcast of the address at noon on Aug. 15 still contain big gaps in knowledge of what actually happened, and much of what is "known" relies on the accounts of 2 surviving military types, who themselves had limited information, and reasons to shade their post-war accounts.





Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 11:54 AM (QDnY+)

307 "K-K-K-Katy
Beautiful Katy
I'll be waiting at the
K-K-K-kitchen door"

Don't know how the rest goes.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (JVrQi)


Has it been reclassified as a Klan song yet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 11:55 AM (hjWzb)

308 Storytelling is a talent. Writing is a craft.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 11:55 AM (+72t1)

309 Right ? That Donald Trump character may yet have a chance at this Presidency thingy.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (bUjCl)


Heh. I would not change a word of that Trump == 'The Mule' bit that I wrote back then. Just like that Mule character in Asmov's 'Foundation' trilogy, Trump has thrown the Established Order of Things into absolute chaos. And the guardians and gatekeepers still have NO idea how to deal with him.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 11:55 AM (JVrQi)

310 Writing is an art and a craft. You study the craft by reading other writers.


==

oh, that's good !

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:57 AM (bUjCl)

311 Want to take a great fiction trip? Read "The Wild Sheep Chase" by Murakami. Amazing, amazing book and plot.
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)


Thanks for the heads up. I put it in my Goodreads "want to read" folder and found out my older daughter has done likewise.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:57 AM (y7DUB)

312

All of the MFM stories I've seen about Portland have described it as far-right extremist group and anti-fascist counter protestors. You see comrades, the gallant wonders of Pantifa are just fighting fascists

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 11:57 AM (hjWzb)

313
Want to take a great fiction trip? Read "The Wild Sheep Chase" by Murakami. Amazing, amazing book and plot.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)



Yeah, great book. It really put Murakami on the map.


I still think it's my favorite novel of his.


Everything great about Murakami in an easy to swallow pill.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (mIQCW)

314 Sean Spicier: I`d be more offended at being called a Cuomo than a Fredo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

315 I finished The Beauty and the Sorrow by Peter Englund. I highly recommend it. The author is a historian and a war correspondent. He wanted to write a book about what World War I was like. He follows 20 people, different nationalities and campaigns. Some are civilian. Each chapter starts with a synopsis of the war for that year. The material is drawn from primary sources and is fascinating.

People tend to think history is carved in stone but books like this show how fluid it was.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (Lqy/e)

316 Saw on Fox news 13 ( only, please) Antifa ( Ready Pro Fascists). were arrested. Even after tearing out a bus window and spraying inside with a spray chemical that had passengers.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:01 PM (BbGew)

317 Rep. Haaland (D): Antifa Are 'Peaceful Protesters' Trying To 'Safeguard Their City'

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So there, haters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)

318 I finished The Beauty and the Sorrow by Peter Englund. I highly recommend it. The author is a historian and a war correspondent. He wanted to write a book about what World War I was like. He follows 20 people, different nationalities and campaigns. Some are civilian. Each chapter starts with a synopsis of the war for that year. The material is drawn from primary sources and is fascinating. 

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I liked it, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

319 The UK has a new rule against gender cliches in advertising and has just banned an ad from Volkswagen and one from Philadelphia cream cheese for being sexist.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:06 PM (fuK7c)

320 The German word vorfuhreffekt

My crew chief in the USAF would right on the repair report
Can Not Duplicate
when a pilot would report a problem that we couldn't find and tests were all satisfactory.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:06 PM (BbGew)

321 317 Rep. Haaland (D): Antifa Are 'Peaceful Protesters' Trying To 'Safeguard Their City'

-
So there, haters!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)

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Funny, but the civic leaders in Munich said the same thing about the Brownshirts.

It didn't end well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:07 PM (amw5z)

322 The little girl on the cover of the Golden Book prayer book is a sweetie, who will probably grow into a beautiful young lady. Her brother has the look of a brother ready to kick ass and take names if somebody screws with his sister. Deus Vult.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 18, 2019 12:07 PM (C1Lsn)

323 ...and I really don't read new American fiction, since it's mass market stuff. I read mostly older European fiction or really, really weird world fictition. I know this makes me sound like a pretentious snob, but I actually like wird stuff, so..it is what it is....


Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ



Yes, I tend to read those types of books myself.

You may enjoy my novel "Wearing the Cat". It a black comedy, picaresque novel that's meant to be different from the usual American novel.

It's on Amazon in two parts on paper and the Kindle.

Amazon gives a very generous sample so you can test drive it to see if it's for you.

Best regards.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 12:08 PM (mIQCW)

324 322 The little girl on the cover of the Golden Book prayer book is a sweetie, who will probably grow into a beautiful young lady.

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By strange coincidence, that girl is our own Fen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:08 PM (amw5z)

325 I have just learned that Heidi Klum calls her boobs Hans and Franz.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fi

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So, "the girls'" pronouns are "he/him?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:09 PM (5aX2M)

326 The UK and Europe can't go soon enough to the Caliphate, at least they will then get the sex differences straightened out.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:09 PM (BbGew)

327 Philly cheese should appeal the decision.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 12:12 PM (bUjCl)

328 Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)

Try Mark Helprin, and if you are a baseball fan, start with his short story called, "Perfection, A Story."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2019 12:14 PM (wYseH)

329
Waze is the app yo want


I use Waze but I sometimes suspect that it's sending me off on a backroads detour not for my benefit but to collect data or out of spite for ignoring its previous instructions. Also, it seems to really not get that an unprotected left hand turn across a major downtown street at rush hour might not be such a good idea.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 18, 2019 12:15 PM (qc+VF)

330 Be sure and read Roger Daltrey's autobiography. It's better than Townsend's and almost as good as Richards. I just read a biography of Cass Elliott that was good, if you need another one. Seems she died from drugs. The autopsy claimed no drugs or alcohol but she had been to a couple of parties that night and was seen drinking.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2019 12:16 PM (Lqy/e)

331 Philly cheese should appeal the decision.

The Volkswagen ad cut back and forth between a male amputee athlete with one of those blade legs doing the long jump and a woman sitting on a bench with a baby carriage.

That showed men as active and women as passive. Banned.

The Philadelphia ad shows two men out with their babies at one of those restaurants with the conveyor belt, like sushi except with bagels and toast and stuff that has cream cheese on it. One of the fathers likes the cream cheese so much that he forgets that he left the baby on the conveyor belt and he sees the kid snaking around to the other side of the store.

That disparages the competence of men as fathers. Banned.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:17 PM (fuK7c)

332 CUCK NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (BbGew)

333 Not much serious reading for the week, so romance roundup.

Wallflower Wager by Tessa Dare; this author is an auto-buy for me. This one was good as usual, but animal-lover tropes are just not my thing. I thought the revelation of secrets was disjointed from the rest of the plot.

Married by Morning by Lisa Kleypas; good but not one of my favorites by Kleypas.

Weighing in on Kindle Unlimited, I do find it to be worth the price. Often, the In the Mail links from Instapundit are available on KU. I read the first two Vindolanda books on KU and then bought the third because I like them so much.

Posted by: MMcK at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (xHxJf)

334 nood

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (mpXpK)

335 I'm going to be reading The Shepherd's Life by James Reback. It seems to be a defense of traditional life. The preview was very good.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2019 12:20 PM (Lqy/e)

336 Any books or thoughts hordians?

Cheriebebe


Any book or video by Dr. Scott Hahn. He is great at explaining Christ's meaning and reality.

Also, Death on a Friday Afternoon by the late Father Richard John Neuhaus. It is very philosophical, but also excellent at describing and explaining the How and Why of Christ's redemptive mission.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 18, 2019 12:21 PM (bQngX)

337 Sean Spicier: I`d be more offended at being called a Cuomo than a Fredo.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

Sean, you can't have an opinion on this because you've never known the grim reality of brutal oppression faced every day in this country by People of Pasta such as myself.

Posted by: Fredo "Chris" Cuomo at August 18, 2019 12:22 PM (tVQUs)

338 That disparages the competence of men as fathers. Banned.


==


OK. That is beyond comical, and my cynical side is telling me that someone somewhere forgot to grease a few palms. But that's just me.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 12:22 PM (bUjCl)

339 I use Waze but I sometimes suspect that it's sending me off on a backroads detour not for my benefit but to collect data or out of spite for ignoring its previous instructions. Also, it seems to really not get that an unprotected left hand turn across a major downtown street at rush hour might not be such a good idea.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 18, 2019 12:15 PM (qc+VF)


Check your navigation settings in Waze; you can tell it to avoid "difficult intersections".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 12:24 PM (t+qrx)

340 If I were Kraft, I'd run the following ad on BBC properties...

Black text scrolling on white screen:

"Our recent ad for Philadelphia cream cheese was proscribed by the Advertising Standards Authority for portraying humans in a manner that suggested that some could be construed as having what were once considered "male" or "female" characteristics.

We did not have the budget to reshoot the ad using androgynous androids.

We considered scrapping it for a new script, but realized that nothing could reliably satisfy ASA and Ofcom, with their arbitrary, capricious and draconian enforcement of ever-shifting left-wing cultural norms.

So: we beseech you to purchase Philadelphia cream cheese. It's good. Not better than anyone else's mind you - we don't want to cheese shame anyone. Their lived experience informs their truth with regard to cheese quality.

So enjoy our cream cheese, and your stifling culture, Great Britain!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (5aX2M)

341 I borrowed "Saintly Advice - A prayer for every problem" from our Adoration Chapel this week. Basically it is a list of Saints and their assigned patronage. I've seen dozens of these type of books throughout the years but this one jumped out at me as very well done.

The physical construction of the book is first rate - first class paper was used and the binding is wonderful. Many of the popular Saints are listed of course but, since this volume has almost 200 pages, there also are listed many of the minor patronages; Burns - St. John the Apostle, Child Abuse - Ss. Alodia and Nunilo, Vanity - St. Rose of Lima, Rape Victims - St. Joan of Arc, and on and on.

A great choice for quiet reflection before bed. I'll buy my own copy and get this back to where it belongs. Else, I'll need to pray for the intercession of St. Leonard of Noblac - patron Saint of Burglary.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 12:29 PM (Y4EXg)

342 Yes Keef has a fine library...he reads slowly though..

ONE TOQUE OVER THE LINE................

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 12:37 PM (5IHGB)

343 Or as the storm waters of Camille destroys the house around them; a woman and her disabled sister join in praying to God as the maid reads aloud from the Bible while holding a hammer in one hand.
Posted by: Anna Puma

What was she gonna do with the hammer ?

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (arJlL)

344 OM

I do appreciate your appeal to celebrate my belief in Christ openly and publicly.

I will do a better job of not looking both ways before I pray the Rosary on the bus, lest I offend someone. I will openly pray with my kids before meals at a restaurant.

Thank you.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 18, 2019 12:47 PM (PkVlr)

345 Oh no, grammie - I was doing a little more searching, and on his
agency's website it says "The Golden Tresses" is the 10th and final book
in the series. Waaaaah!


Her maid bonked her with a hammer.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 12:53 PM (arJlL)

346 "So enjoy our cream cheese, and your stifling culture, Great Britain!"

The people who are responsible for that ad have been sacked.

Posted by: The Moose at August 18, 2019 12:56 PM (Tnijr)

347 I read an excellent bio of Joseph Lister, which focused on the transformation of surgery from a grisly Victorian horror show to something rather modern-looking, in the space of only 20 years or so.

I also read Tony La Russa's "One Last Strike," about the 2011 season. It has strong autobiographical elements too..

Posted by: mnw at August 18, 2019 12:58 PM (Cssks)

348
I've long been a fan of histories about domestic and foreign
communism, so I was surprised to come across Harry Stein's "The
Red Decade, Redux" in the summer issue of City Journal. In
discussing Eugene Lyons' "The Red Decade," which was published in
1941, Stein compared today's political climate to that of the
Popular Front era in 1930s America. Lyons, it turns out, was a
commie fellow traveler in the 1920s until years as a
reporter in the Soviet Union showed him that Stalin was a monster.
Despite my past reading, I had never heard of "The Red Decade"; I
looked for a copy at AbeBooks and Amazon, but even reprints are
pretty pricey. I finally got a copy from Hillsdale College through
the Michigan inter-library loan system.



Lyons presents a ton of hard facts about the Red Menace,
starting with its post-World War I roots. Always a pawn of Moscow,
the American party (ahem) religiously followed the line pushed by
the Communist International. The Popular Front was only one in a
series of Comintern plots to undermine non-communist nations. To
promote the Popular Front in the U.S., the party used such slogans
as "Communism is 20th Century Americanism" and "a communist is a
liberal in a hurry" to put a happy, non-threatening face on its
dark ambitions. Although the party never had that many
card-carrying members, it could rely on millions of fellow
travelers, stooges and just-plain naive citizens to entrench
itself into virtually every element of American life: popular
culture, education, mass media, politics, the government itself.
As Lyons notes, it appealed to everyone "from the sharecropper to
the shareholder."




And Lyons names names. Plenty of names. Some he identifies as
party members, others as commie symps. Still others are called
fellow travelers but proved to be Reds (sometimes even spies)
after World War II. Forget Joe McCarthy. Lyons points out that the
U.S. Labor Department was riddled with communists and
sympathizers, as were other agencies. A smart-mouth elevator
operator would announce "First Soviet," "Second Soviet" and so on
while traversing the floors of the State Department Building. The
way things worked, Lyons explains, is that the department director
or his top assistants would be hard-core fellow travelers who
would, in turn, appoint sympathetic managers below them. The real
communists would be in the ranks of low-levels workers. The Reds
had every base covered.



"The Red Decade" is a book not to be missed if you can
find a copy.

Posted by: outside Adjitator at August 18, 2019 01:25 PM (NvFiZ)

349 @232 --

I had heard (once on the Book Thread, even) that the latter five books weren't worth the time.

I have the first five in a two-volume hardback set that I bought used in the mid-'80s. It shows the copyright for the fifth novel, "The Courts of Chaos," was 1978 -- when I was still in high school. Maybe Zelazny hadn't resumed the series then.

Anyway, I think I'll stop with the fifth book. I have so many others to read. I hope to live long enough to read everything I own.

All I have to do is stay out of bookstores.

...

Shit.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 18, 2019 01:30 PM (p2Yw7)

350 Just finished Nowhither, which is the sequel to Somewhither and highly recommend if you like action adventure fantasy mystery religious alternative history multidimensional philosophy. John C. Wright is the author.

Posted by: Simplemind at August 18, 2019 01:54 PM (ZuGkg)

351 There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (fuK7c)

Well, call it "The Law of Paradoxical Observation". Wherein, if a thing, known to work/not work, is demonstrated to an observer, it perversely not works/works, as the case may be. That pretty much covers it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (a72/q)

352 Does reading the latest Popular Science and Popular Mechanics count? I simply cannot get interested in reading books lately.. I think it must have something to do with too much time on the internet.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (438dO)

You a masochist? Love submerging yourself in Gerbil Worming and SJW propaganda? Those magazines have completely jumped the shark.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:11 PM (a72/q)

353 I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.
Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (vqIkG)

Likewise for me. Even if you own a digital book outright, what happens when the device it is stored upon goes tits up?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (a72/q)

354 And it has the turn right in 5.4 miles, it's 42 miles to your destination, you'll get there at 12:15, and it's free.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

And Goolag knows exactly where you are, and probably has a good idea of what you a re doing there.

The beauty of a real GPS is that it is a passive device, and does not (and cannot) transmit data back to its satellites.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (a72/q)

355 I want to second the comment about lots of reading being helpful to writers of nonfiction. I have mostly been a voracious reader all my life, but couldn't write fiction if I had to. But I'm a very, very good writer (and editor) of nonfiction and technical writing.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (S+f+m)

EMT 8/18/19

The EMT abides.

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1 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:00 AM (BbGew)

2 Just one thing, krak: Do you have to cuss so durn much?

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 06:02 AM (dCRRg)

3 Nice bookends, skip.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 06:02 AM (dCRRg)

4 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, August 18, 2019. On this day in 1587 in Roanoke colony Virginia Dare, was born becoming the first English child born in the Americas.


Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

5 Blue on Blue due to hard left commie scrunt.


https://tinyurl.com/y6sqn24w

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

6 Howdy Horde. Damn it's almost beer thirty. Working nights has made me a day drinker. Have tonight off so I just might drink all day.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 06:03 AM (eZ4HD)

7
Fox says these cities have the highest sales tax in the US with Chicago taking the top honors at 10.24%. I have some news for them, my local city Hicktown, SC beats them at 10.5%.


https://tinyurl.com/y3t9lqbm

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

8 G'mornin' Horde !

64 degrees, lightning, thunder, but not raining at the moment; range day may be canceled.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2019 06:04 AM (XNDy+)

9 Want to know why Trump is now considering new gun control laws, including Red Flag laws. Can you say Ivanka who is a liberal.


https://tinyurl.com/y5zhktjd

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

10 FL neighborhood beset with vultures because stupid woman is feeding them. Neighbors can do anything about it because BION they are frigging protecting birds unde the stupid migratory bird act. That is a law that needs some serious changes. I had to take down my bird feeder because of grackles and cow birds which are also protected. I still would have shot them if I didn't have a sheriff's deputy living down the street from me.


https://tinyurl.com/y6drn3a7

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

11 Something the MFM is not telling you while not posting in photos of the Philly cop shooter. He was a radical muzzie.


https://tinyurl.com/y43grwdq

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

12 Ramirez


https://tinyurl.com/yyyq28tm


And that's it for today. Nothing out there today.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ivanka needs to be barefoot, pregnant and chained to the stove.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 06:06 AM (eZ4HD)

14 When I worked overnight a lifetime ago we use to go to bar at 7am.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:06 AM (BbGew)

15 Yep, back in the day in Hampton Roads, the bars opened at 7am.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 06:07 AM (eZ4HD)

16
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 18, 2019 06:08 AM (KCxzN)

17 14
When I worked overnight a lifetime ago we use to go to bar at 7am.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:06 AM (BbGew)

The earliest any bar here opens is 2 pm. Most don't open until 4 pm. And they are all inside the city limits except one.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:08 AM (mpXpK)

18 1 pm where I live in the Upstate. The Last Chance Saloon opens at 1 and the VFW usually opens at 3.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 06:10 AM (eZ4HD)

19 There were a few around here that opened at 7am, though wondering maybe 8. Remember it was a hour after we finished work after working all night. That was way back in the early 80s, no idea if that is still the case.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:12 AM (BbGew)

20 Back in the 70s when I lived in CA there was a bar in Alameda that opened at 6 am. When we were on a tear when they closed at 2 am (State law) we would go to Denees eat breakfast and dawdle until 6 am and hit that bar.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:14 AM (mpXpK)

21 11 11 Something the MFM is not telling you while not posting in photos of the Philly cop shooter. He was a radical muzzie.

If he'd ever said something nice about Trump, that would have been newsworthy. But a devout muzzie, with the prayer bump on his forehead to prove it?

Crickets.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2019 06:18 AM (Z4rgH)

22 Seems like I remember the Gateway Lounge in San Diego was open 24 hrs, but I was a kid then, the 60's, so I could be wrong. A friend of the family owned it.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 06:19 AM (eZ4HD)

23 Watching the local ABC news that night they interviewed the woman ( there was a female teenager with her) who were on the floor above the shooter. The woman was saying the girl was saying thinks derogatory about the police who saved them but the woman told her not to since they did a good job to get them out.
There is a lot of animosity to the police in the black community, all propagated by Democrats.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:23 AM (BbGew)

24 Hong Kong rally going on now again.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:25 AM (BbGew)

25 22
Seems like I remember the Gateway Lounge in San Diego was open 24 hrs,
but I was a kid then, the 60's, so I could be wrong. A friend of the
family owned it.

Posted by: Traveling Man at August 18, 2019 06:19 AM (eZ4HD)

When I was in CA in the 70s State law they had to close at 2 am if they served liquor and could not open until 6 am. If all they served was beer and wine there were no set hours in the law.

Here they can not open until noon and must close at 2 am unless saturday, must close at Midnight.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:25 AM (mpXpK)

26 That could have been what it was Vic. I was just a kid then and I've slept a time or two since then.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 06:30 AM (eZ4HD)

27 When I worked overnight a lifetime ago we use to go to bar at 7am.
Posted by: Skip

Used to go to a bar that was in unincorporated Cook County (Chicago area) that had a 23 hours license. They would close from 5 to 6 AM. There were many 24 hour factories in the area. This bar would also cash paychecks. They would charge 50 cents for that.

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 06:32 AM (vd8XM)

28 There are reports that a John Kennedy III is thinking about primarying Ed Markey.

He'll be perfect. Dumber than Markey and he is young, so he can spend 4 decades in the seat until cirrhosis does him in.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 06:33 AM (dCRRg)

29 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 06:33 AM (arJlL)

30 Hey !

I'm 29 !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 06:34 AM (arJlL)

31 >>> This bar would also cash paychecks. They would charge 50 cents for that.

Sounds like a lucrative business model.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 06:35 AM (dCRRg)

32 Well got to go fill my pill caddy. BBL

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:35 AM (mpXpK)

33 Sounds like a lucrative business model.
Posted by: fluffy

Very much so. Especially on Thursday nights when a lot of the guys, me included, would get paid working 2nd shift. Get off work, crack your check, and enjoy a few (?) beers.
Then you didn't have to go to the bank in the morning

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 06:39 AM (vd8XM)

34 Way back then there were many factories with 24hr shifts, wonder how many are still around.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:42 AM (BbGew)

35 Good morning you people. Rainy day here. Saves me from cutting firewood again today.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 18, 2019 06:46 AM (yztq2)

36 Rainy day here.

What's that?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at August 18, 2019 06:47 AM (lD3vL)

37 I've been working nightshift for decades. A morning beer is nothing new.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 18, 2019 06:49 AM (IQW98)

38 *yawns, stretches*

All right, up and at 'em, tiger. Gotta race to win.

*checks back of drawers*

dammit

Posted by: Biden at August 18, 2019 06:53 AM (1Ze3Q)

39 >>> I'm 29 !

Are we still aspiring to post comment #88 or did we squeeze all the entertainment out of that one?

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 06:53 AM (dCRRg)

40 So good to be here..

Posted by: Model_1066 at August 18, 2019 06:56 AM (EAA/O)

41 Nah, the current Most Fashionable Thing is posting "Comment Not Found" at #404.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2019 06:59 AM (XNDy+)

42 Are we still aspiring to post comment #88 or did we squeeze all the entertainment out of that one?
Posted by: fluffy

Its been squoze so much that I is the new 88 !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 07:01 AM (arJlL)

43 *sits, pours bowl of Kaboom, adds prunes, grabs Tom Mix spoon*

*reads back of box, frowns*

Where the hell is Little Orphan Annie?!

*pauses, checks rear of drawers*

DAMMIT!

Posted by: Biden at August 18, 2019 07:03 AM (1Ze3Q)

44 Mornin', all.

Posted by: My life is insanity at August 18, 2019 07:03 AM (Z/jzm)

45 Mornin', all.
Posted by: My life is insanity

Good Morning !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 07:08 AM (arJlL)

46 10> Here in the Bluegrass Turkey Vultures are actually going after live animals. They've been known to kill animals as large as calves. They skin them alive and strip them down to their bones.

They're a "protected species" here.

Farmers hate them. They're creepy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2019 07:08 AM (3H9h1)

47 *sits, pours bowl of Kaboom, adds prunes, grabs Tom Mix spoon*

*reads back of box, frowns*

Where the hell is Little Orphan Annie?!

*pauses, checks rear of drawers*


Mmmmm. Pudding!

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 07:08 AM (vd8XM)

48 MLii Did you get mom out for her birthday?

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 07:08 AM (BbGew)

49 34
Way back then there were many factories with 24hr shifts, wonder how many are still around.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:42 AM (BbGew)


Plenty, we have three here plus the power plant. I worked shifts most of my life.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:10 AM (mpXpK)

50 Need prayers And maybe advice
Late last night suddenly got a lot of new floaters in one eye - looked like ink dispersing in a glass
This morning just one big floater and a couple tiny ones left
Thing is we drive KTY to college tomorrow and ate staying a couple of days (her bday) - 5 hours away.
Do I just ignore it until we get back?

Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 07:11 AM (+72t1)

51 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:12 AM (cqNba)

52 Bars outside of Newport News shipyard would be open at 0600. Night shift at the shipyard needs a place to unwind.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:12 AM (cqNba)

53 Dude!

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:13 AM (r666Q)

54 50

That sounds like what my ophthalmologist once told me to look out for as retinal detachment. You seriously might want to get it looked at sooner than later, just to be safe.

Posted by: Biden at August 18, 2019 07:14 AM (1Ze3Q)

55 The law has an option for farmers to shoot crows but they have to get a permit first. I suspect they have the same option for buzzards.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:15 AM (mpXpK)

56 Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

Grackles are protected?

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:15 AM (5nf9+)

57 >>MLii Did you get mom out for her birthday?
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 07:08 AM (BbGew)

I did. We ended up going for lunch. Always an adventure taking her out!

Posted by: My life is insanity at August 18, 2019 07:17 AM (Z/jzm)

58 We are in Mitchell, SD this morning, we'll see if we can find the corn palace. On our way to Roundup MT tonight with a stop at Mt. Rushmore.

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:17 AM (5nf9+)

59 Good morning.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 18, 2019 07:17 AM (gAXBD)

60 VMom, it's your eyes.
Hopefully your eye doc has answering service that can get ahold of him TODAY.

Hope that's all that needs saying.

Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 07:18 AM (A9A9H)

61 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 18, 2019 07:18 AM (cknjq)

62 50
Need prayers And maybe advice

Late last night suddenly got a lot of new floaters in one eye - looked like ink dispersing in a glass

This morning just one big floater and a couple tiny ones left

Thing is we drive KTY to college tomorrow and ate staying a couple of days (her bday) - 5 hours away.

Do I just ignore it until we get back?

Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 07:11 AM (+72t1)+

Sounds like cataracts but should get it checked as soon as possible,

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:19 AM (mpXpK)

63 56
Grackles are protected?

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:15 AM (5nf9+)
yes

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:20 AM (mpXpK)

64 PDT says no to red flag laws because he talked to his "gun guy" Don Jr., who he says knows more about guns than anyone he knows.
He wants to house the crazies, which is exactly what needs to happen.

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:22 AM (5nf9+)

65 Vic is a grackle the same thing as a starling? I hope not for my sake.

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:22 AM (5nf9+)

66 >>> Grackles are protected?

We get them at our feeders. There seem to be neighborhood grackles and roving grackles.

The neighborhood birds are a group of four or five and seem calmer. The roving flocks have two or three dozen birds and are very skittish. Just waving a hand by the window panics one bird and they all fly off.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 07:24 AM (dCRRg)

67 Vic is a grackle the same thing as a starling? I hope not for my sake.
Posted by: clutch

No. The starling (I believe) is not protected. It is not an indigenous song bird.
I believe they can be shot on sight.

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 07:25 AM (vd8XM)

68 Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2019 07:08 AM (3H9h1)

Wow, turkey vultures would be subject to the 3s rule if'n i had cattle.

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:25 AM (5nf9+)

69 Why are grackles protected? There is no shortage of them.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 18, 2019 07:26 AM (IQW98)

70 There are over 800 species are currently on the list. There are exceptions for game birds like dove and quail because they are covered by "game laws" and limits. And the law allows you to apply for a permit for some migratory birds like crows and their cousins the grackles and cow girds.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:26 AM (mpXpK)

71 He wants to house the crazies, which is exactly what needs to happen.

Great. Now Alex Jones will be back on the FEMA camps rant again.

When the insane (the Left) decide who is "crazy", they will come hunting for their enemies who they have long and often promised they would gladly jail and kill.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at August 18, 2019 07:26 AM (lD3vL)

72 There was a blog article a couple weeks ago pointing out if DJT was a private citizen he would be on that Red Flag list, remember all that has no bearing on any court case, just accusations.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 07:27 AM (BbGew)

73 Of course a herd of Grackles will strip out your feeders as quick as a herd of starlings, which is a murmuration.

They won't stop until everything is gone, or flicked to the ground

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 07:27 AM (vd8XM)

74 69
Why are grackles protected? There is no shortage of them.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 18, 2019 07:26 AM (IQW9


There is no shortage of crows either but they are on the list and you must get a permit first to shoot them. "Shortage" has nothing to do with it being on the list.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:27 AM (mpXpK)

75 >>> Vic is a grackle the same thing as a starling? I hope not for my sake.

Sorry for interrupting.

Grackles have a distinctive white eye and blue-black iridescent feathers and a dark bill. They are also larger.

Starlings are brownish and variegated in color with a yellow bill. They are a bit nasty. I prefer grackles.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 07:28 AM (dCRRg)

76 After we got home, because she said she felt so full, she wanted to take a walk. She hasn't wanted to do that in a while because she says her legsare too old. (This from a woman who used to walk at least 3 miles Every. Single. Day. as late as 3 years ago!) We walked to the library, grabbed a few more books and a couple of movies. It was a slow trip, but she admitted that she enjoyed it.

Posted by: My life is insanity at August 18, 2019 07:31 AM (Z/jzm)

77 *pauses, checks rear of drawers*
Mmmmm. Pudding!


That is disgusting. Why are we still talking about changing underwear?


Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at August 18, 2019 07:31 AM (lD3vL)

78 Usually in shell peanuts and sunflower in the feeders will keep starlings and grackles at bay.

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 07:31 AM (vd8XM)

79 >>> No. The starling (I believe) is not protected. It is not an indigenous song bird.

Eurotrash.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 07:31 AM (dCRRg)

80 Migratory bird sanctuary city lists are a PITA. Birds like crows and ravens are on the list despite not being any where close to endangered. I lose as much fruit to birds as I do to insects these day.

Posted by: Big V at August 18, 2019 07:31 AM (xV6Pj)

81 A grackle once bit my sister.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 07:32 AM (arJlL)

82 When I was a kid in Ohio, there was a bounty on crows. Two bits each, and you brought in the left wing as proof of assassination. A kid with a 22 could make a few bucks. Also, I was watching some cooking show about wild game, and they showed some nuts here in Arkansas preparing crow. I'll think about that next time I see a couple of them chowing down on some day old possum road kill.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 18, 2019 07:32 AM (C1Lsn)

83 Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 07:28 AM (dCRRg)

Thanks I have both. I guess it is starlings that visit my pellet gun.

Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2019 07:33 AM (5nf9+)

84 When I was a kid, an elderly neighbor would crush the eggs of the starlings when she found the nests. She hated those birds!

Posted by: My life is insanity at August 18, 2019 07:33 AM (Z/jzm)

85 Starlings have two puurposes.

1. Annoy homeowners.
2. Their feathers are good for tying certain small fishing flies.

Number 2 has the additional benefit of knowing the feathers mean there is one less of these F'ers on the planet.

Posted by: JTB at August 18, 2019 07:33 AM (bmdz3)

86 Also, I was watching some cooking show about wild game, and they showed some nuts here in Arkansas preparing crow. I'll think about that next time I see a couple of them chowing down on some day old possum road kill.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

The crows or the guys preparing the crow?

Posted by: Bruce at August 18, 2019 07:34 AM (vd8XM)

87 86 I knew some guy would say that, although it could be either.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 18, 2019 07:35 AM (C1Lsn)

88 Literally Hitler

Posted by: jsg at August 18, 2019 07:36 AM (bHInI)

89 VMom - If you can't get to your eye doc today, emergency rooms will have an ophthalmologist on call. They'll assess you and call him in if it's a detached retina.

I had a similar thing happen on a Sunday while out of town. Since I've been told I'm at high risk for detachment, I went right in to ER. The ophthalmologist they called instructed me to meet him at his office. Turned out to be PVD - posterior vitreous detachment, which is treated with moisturizing drops and considered to be non-sight-threatening.

Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 07:37 AM (2GPSc)

90 Well, numerically, at least, according to unwell MSDNC hosts.

Posted by: jsg at August 18, 2019 07:37 AM (bHInI)

91 Hare is a list of birds on the list. Unfortunately it is not arranged in alphabetical order by the common name. Grackles and starlings are both on the list.


https://tinyurl.com/j5dawoc

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:38 AM (mpXpK)

92 60 VMom, it's your eyes.
Hopefully your eye doc has answering service that can get ahold of him TODAY.

Hope that's all that needs saying.
Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 07:18 AM (A9A9H)

Seconded.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:40 AM (r666Q)

93 The EMT abides.

The rug really ties The Barrel together.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 07:40 AM (DMUuz)

94 MLii sounds like a very good day

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 07:40 AM (BbGew)

95 91 Hare is a list of birds on the list. Unfortunately it is not arranged in alphabetical order by the common name. Grackles and starlings are both on the list.

I have no idea what a Bushtit is, but now I really want to see one.

Posted by: jsg at August 18, 2019 07:41 AM (bHInI)

96 Here is a Bush Tit. No it doesn't have a nipple.

https://tinyurl.com/y6hbous5

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:42 AM (mpXpK)

97 "I have no idea what a Bushtit is, but now I really want to see one."

Sounds like a blue-footed boogie, with a merkin.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:43 AM (cqNba)

98 92
60 VMom, it's your eyes.

Hopefully your eye doc has answering service that can get ahold of him TODAY.



Hope that's all that needs saying.

Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 07:18 AM (A9A9H)



Seconded.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:40 AM (r666Q)

Thirded

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 07:43 AM (mpXpK)

99 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Sigh. 4:43AM...dang. Off to Augusta this morning. The airport smells like sweaty people and dirty socks.
Morning Horde.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 07:44 AM (aZNua)

100 Ok called the eye doc's answering service

Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 07:44 AM (+72t1)

101 The Pit Bar and Liquor Store just outside Seward AK is open from 8:00 am to 5:00 am. Yes, "and Liquor Store."

Ah, Alaska.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 07:44 AM (S+f+m)

102 At first glance, I read that as "bush tit".

*looks again*

Huh.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 07:44 AM (t+qrx)

103 Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 07:37 AM (2GPSc

Thanks! That's encouraging

Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 07:45 AM (+72t1)

104 96 Here is a Bush Tit. No it doesn't have a nipple.

Life's disappointments continue apace...

Posted by: jsg at August 18, 2019 07:45 AM (bHInI)

105 I have no idea what a Bushtit is, but now I really want to see one.
Posted by: jsg at August 18, 2019 07:41 AM


National Geographic used to run photos of them.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 07:46 AM (DMUuz)

106 Ok. This airline service animal thing is bullsh*t! WTF people???!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 07:46 AM (aZNua)

107 In these times, I wonder if there is a gummint employee on-the-ball enough to notice, and wonder why around dawn on a Sunday there was a burst of traffic to a particular Fish & Wildlife page.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2019 07:48 AM (XNDy+)

108 Morning fellow slackers and mouthbreathers!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2019 07:49 AM (BrRAn)

109 100 Ok called the eye doc's answering service
Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 07:44 AM (+72t1)

Good for you! I expect they'll want to see you; hang in there.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:49 AM (r666Q)

110 In these times, I wonder if there is a gummint employee on-the-ball enough to notice, and wonder why around dawn on a Sunday there was a burst of traffic to a particular Fish & Wildlife page.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2019 07:48 AM (XNDy+)

*****
Got cha covered!

Posted by: NSA Bob at August 18, 2019 07:49 AM (aZNua)

111 "Ok. This airline service animal thing is bullsh*t! WTF people???!!!"

My first "Common sense gun control law" would be that any individual needing a comfort animal or emotional support animal to handle the emotional stress of interacting with the public should be banned from owning a firearm.

Or purchasing milkshakes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:49 AM (cqNba)

112
My first "Common sense gun control law" would be that any individual needing a comfort animal or emotional support animal to handle the emotional stress of interacting with the public should be banned from owning a firearm.

Or purchasing milkshakes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:49 AM


or driving

or voting

THERE! I SAID IT!

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 18, 2019 07:51 AM (KCxzN)

113 106 Ok. This airline service animal thing is bullsh*t! WTF people???!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 07:46 AM (aZNua)

The NYT disagrees:

The Completely Reasonable Reason People Are Flying With Mini Horses
The New York Times

Not that I'll read the NYT.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:52 AM (r666Q)

114 We are in Mitchell, SD this morning, we'll see if we can find the corn palace. On our way to Roundup MT tonight with a stop at Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by: clutch


What a huge waste of time. Or a small waste of time.

The Corn Palace. Not worth going to. Been there, done that.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 18, 2019 07:52 AM (S6Pax)

115 112
My first "Common sense gun control law" would be that any individual needing a comfort animal or emotional support animal to handle the emotional stress of interacting with the public should be banned from owning a firearm.

Or purchasing milkshakes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:49 AM

or driving

or voting

THERE! I SAID IT!
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 18, 2019 07:51 AM (KCxzN)

Can pilots have them?

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:53 AM (r666Q)

116 >>> The Completely Reasonable Reason People Are Flying With Mini Horses

Mini horses can fly?

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 07:53 AM (dCRRg)

117 Well, if you're not going to read the NYT...at least read this.

With your latte.

Or a nice cup of coffee, with cream and sugar.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13575

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:54 AM (cqNba)

118 I vote neigh on the mini horse thing.

Posted by: jsg at August 18, 2019 07:54 AM (bHInI)

119 Finally. The airport bars are opening!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 07:54 AM (aZNua)

120 116 >>> The Completely Reasonable Reason People Are Flying With Mini Horses

Mini horses can fly?
Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 07:53 AM (dCRRg)

god as my witness I thought horses could fly

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:54 AM (r666Q)

121 "Mini horses can fly?"

With a big enough engine strapped to them....yes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:55 AM (cqNba)

122 117 Well, if you're not going to read the NYT...at least read this.

With your latte.

Or a nice cup of coffee, with cream and sugar.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13575
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:54 AM (cqNba)

VIA. "Thanks."

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:55 AM (r666Q)

123 That mini horse craps in my seat I'm gonna rub the owners nose in it and beat him with a newspaper.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 07:55 AM (aZNua)

124 Good morning Glories!

I love having my morning coffee while sitting outside on the patio and hanging out with you all.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 07:56 AM (GaOgf)

125 On the other hand, the NYT is suggesting there is a racist connection to a nice lawn.

https://nyti.ms/31tDALz

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 07:56 AM (cqNba)

126 When I worked overnight a lifetime ago we use to go to bar at 7am.



Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:06 AM

---

Our VFW used to open at 7am when there was a factory with a third shift. That place closed 15 years ago and we now open at noon. I have been told the crowd was three deep at the bar from 7 until noon.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 18, 2019 07:57 AM (JUOKG)

127 122

That's not cattle rape. I've seen cattle rape.

Posted by: Reverend Johnson at August 18, 2019 07:58 AM (1Ze3Q)

128 How would anyone at the NYT know anything about a lawn when all their dirt is covered with concrete.

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 07:58 AM (s0Rod)

129 "On the other hand, the NYT is suggesting there is a racist connection to a nice lawn"

There is a racist connection to everything. I can't look at the ceiling without thinking "That ceiling is racist".

Posted by: an orc at August 18, 2019 07:59 AM (Tnijr)

130 127 have you ever indulged?

Posted by: ALH at August 18, 2019 07:59 AM (GaOgf)

131 How can a nice yard be racist?
I have a nice yard and a crew of Mexi....err...fine young men who come every Saturday to keep it that way.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 08:00 AM (aZNua)

132 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:00 AM (u82oZ)

133 "That's not cattle rape. I've seen cattle rape."

Cattle should not be allowed to walk amongst men, without being covered.

And never without a male member of the herd accompanying them.

-Other shit that the pedophile might have said

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:02 AM (cqNba)

134 130

https://tinyurl.com/y5o8jp53

Posted by: Reverend Johnson at August 18, 2019 08:02 AM (1Ze3Q)

135 Mini-horse drama queens. *gestures*

I'll bet you Ben Had knows her horses. They need her for support.
Advantage: 'ettes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:02 AM (u82oZ)

136 G'morning, Salty.

Any updates to the storm damage?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:02 AM (cqNba)

137 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:03 AM (u82oZ)

138 Meet the Flockers : I get a nice cross section of noonies (birds) at my feeder (squirrel proof) from Nov thru May.Yes the starlings can be greedy but nowhere as rapacious as squirrels.It is delightful,relaxing and a learning experience watching the BlueJays (easily spooked) Cardinals (wary) Doves (prefer ground seeds) and the lesser breeds.The wild rabbits enjoy the fallen mixed seeds as do the squirrels.I buy decent seeds on special and prolly drop a coupla hundred a year.

One nice thing is the starlings hang around all year
and scout my lawn almost daily for grubs and creepy crawlies so it's fair exchange.Bug Free grass for a few meals,
Had a woodpecker raise a brood on my fence line,great watching him prepare the dead trunk for his brood. Mutual of Omaha is in talks with me for "Wild Warblers"

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 08:04 AM (5IHGB)

139

Let those calves in here!

Posted by: Pedo Bull at August 18, 2019 08:05 AM (qul7b)

140 After looking at the link...I have been invaded by starlings...
Not crackles.

Little stubby tails in relation to the overall body length.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:06 AM (cqNba)

141 Canada Geese might be migratory but here in Indiana they never leave.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at August 18, 2019 08:07 AM (Vf4Y7)

142 >>> One nice thing is the starlings hang around all year
and scout my lawn almost daily for grubs and creepy crawlies so it's fair exchange.Bug Free grass for a few meals

We have had flickers pass through the yard for years. Not daily, but they are around. Recently we have seen them eating suet at the feeder.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 08:08 AM (dCRRg)

143
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:09 AM (Wx/+I)

144 PDT always donates his salary back to the country. Any other candidates saying they will do this? No, I didn't think so.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:09 AM (Tnijr)

145 "Canada Geese might be migratory but here in Indiana they never leave."

We're sorry.

Posted by: The Canadian Geese at August 18, 2019 08:09 AM (cqNba)

146 No damage to the house, although one skylight was letting water into the people tank. My tractor does not want to start, so I'll have to switch the battery. That delays dragging the down mock cherry to my burn pile.

For $25,000 I can get an automatic propane whole house generator. Not sure if I want it to autostart, but I can't see my wife toddling out, yanking the transfer switch, and firing that puppy up. And I'm not home all the time.

We get 97% service availability. But one good ice storm in 2007 knocked out the power for two weeks, according to the previous owners.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:09 AM (u82oZ)

147 Beware the grackles.

Posted by: Thad Beaumont at August 18, 2019 08:11 AM (1Ze3Q)

148
Something the MFM is not telling you while not posting in photos of the Philly cop shooter. He was a radical muzzie.

More evidence of the dangerous threat of White Supremacy!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:11 AM (Wx/+I)

149 140
After looking at the link...I have been invaded by starlings...

Not crackles.



Little stubby tails in relation to the overall body length.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:06 AM (cqNba)

Unlike me, if you don't have any cops living around you and you are not inside the city limits apply the 3 s's rule. Shoot shovel and shutup. But be careful, even though I am not in the city limits . . . yet, it is illegal here to discharge a weapon in a residential neighborhood,

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 08:11 AM (mpXpK)

150 AOC says she's not going to Israel either. That'll show 'em.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:12 AM (Tnijr)

151 So Mrs VIA has been stricken with the binge bug and the Canadian TV series 'Kim's Convenience"

And the overeducated friend was visiting, and while it was on said 'is that customer African American?

My response was... Looks more African Canadian to me.

Her: Well, the store owners are Korean.

Me: No....they're Canadian.


And so on.



But....it's a pretty funny and quirky show.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:12 AM (cqNba)

152
Now streaming the Concerto for Orchestra by Witold Lutoslawski.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:13 AM (Wx/+I)

153 Need prayers And maybe advice
Late last night suddenly got a lot of new floaters in one eye - looked like ink dispersing in a glass
This morning just one big floater and a couple tiny ones left
Thing is we drive KTY to college tomorrow and ate staying a couple of days (her bday) - 5 hours away.
Do I just ignore it until we get back?
Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 07:11 AM (+72t1)



Especially if they were small floaters like a bunch of pepper grains.

You need to see your opthamologist ASAP.

That could be a retinal detachment .


If you're approaching "29", it could be a vitreous detachment, which isn't serious but sometimes you can get retinal tears or detachment at the edges when your vitreous fluid detaches.

In any event, see your doc ASAP.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 08:13 AM (mIQCW)

154 The corn palace is not a shoe in for entertainment,but the Bunion boutique beats the Verucca Bar foots down.

Mt Rushmore...why they stop working on it, I have an old Passport photo I can give the guys.........

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 08:13 AM (5IHGB)

155 "For $25,000 I can get an automatic propane whole house generator. Not sure if I want it to autostart, but I can't see my wife toddling out, yanking the transfer switch, and firing that puppy up. And I'm not home all the time. "

Yeh...the old 'ABT vs MTB, Normal seeking vs Power seeking discussion comes to mind.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:14 AM (cqNba)

156 I may want to get a pellet gun. We have a turkey vulture or two that rest on the roof crest. Not a bad omen or anything. No Siree.

They love the breeze coming up the hill, and soar over the house at 10 feet above it to catch the thermals. Downside, no more rabbits in the front yard. But I blame bobcats and coyotes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:15 AM (u82oZ)

157 Weapons of war is the new slogan for Leftists and their media arm the MSM.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 08:15 AM (BbGew)

158 Not heard from eye dr yet - maybe he's in church

Posted by: VMom's phone at August 18, 2019 08:15 AM (+72t1)

159
Trump rally in NH - 11,500 people
Biden rally at the same time - 30 people

There were thousands of people outside and driving by the Biden rally though.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:16 AM (Tnijr)

160 92 60 VMom, it's your eyes.
Hopefully your eye doc has answering service that can get ahold of him TODAY.

Hope that's all that needs saying.
Posted by: teej at August 18, 2019 07:18 AM (A9A9H)

Seconded.
Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 07:40 AM (r666Q)

Thirded.

ER as back up, especially if you have extreme myopia, or otherwise extreme eyeball distortion.

Posted by: Ghoti at August 18, 2019 08:17 AM (MwFQu)

161 156 They love the breeze coming up the hill, and soar
over the house at 10 feet above it to catch the thermals. Downside, no
more rabbits in the front yard. But I blame bobcats and coyotes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:15 AM (u82oZ)

We have a little baby rabbit that comes around. I am surprised because even though the popo have ordered her to get a fence or tie them up she lets them run free.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 08:17 AM (mpXpK)

162 "Weapons of war is the new slogan for Leftists and their media arm the MSM."

Oddly enough, the Mosin Nagant 91/30 has killed hundreds of thousands, in battle.

And I am not aware of a single military force which uses the AR-15 as a battle weapon.

Yet....here we are.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:18 AM (cqNba)

163 Skip

They want us to be the French or Italians. Alas for them, we're Americans.

After he was no longer President, Grant toured Europe as a good will ambassador. He was pretty effective.

At one meeting he was surrounded by the top brass of Germany, all asking questions on his experience in the Civil War.

"Why did it take you so long to win?" Grant replied, "Because we were fighting Americans."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:19 AM (u82oZ)

164
"Weapons of war is the new slogan for Leftists and their media arm the MSM."

*hides bayonet*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:21 AM (Wx/+I)

165 Vic

I've seen that cycle of life. Scampering babies, darting young ones, fast, experienced mature bunnies, dawdling large seniors. Then start over.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:22 AM (u82oZ)

166 freaked - Those driving by were just the hecklers

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 08:22 AM (BbGew)

167 Wait. Biden didn't even show up for the Biden rally?

Despite the candidate not being present, the small crowd did display some energy, according to the Eagle-Tribune, especially when they chanted "Go, Joe! Go, Joe!" n unison.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:22 AM (Tnijr)

168 So a neighbor was telling us about touring a University recently.

Safe rooms in most of thee buildings in case of tornadoes.

And someone asked about active shooters.

'Oh, the students are trained to rush into the safe room, and lock the door from the inside."

My immediate response was...what if the second shooter is dressed asa student, and waiting inside the safe room till the doors are locked?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

169 Just one thing, krak: Do you have to cuss so durn much?"

He is Groot.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:23 AM (6qErC)

170 Good morning all! Prayers for my SIL and nieces and nephew please. My BIL has decided he doesn't want to be married anymore, so he has moved in with his brother and my homeless SIL and her kids are now with my MIL. It's a mess.

Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 08:23 AM (OeWgo)

171 " >>> The Completely Reasonable Reason People Are Flying With Mini Horses "



Please tell me that's from the Babylon Bee.
Even if it's not.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2019 08:23 AM (XNDy+)

172 "especially when they chanted "Go, Joe! Go, Joe!" n unison."

Maybe he was just in the bathroom.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:24 AM (Tnijr)

173 Vic, I hope you, your wife and your brother are all OK, for varying amounts of OK.

And is your neighbor still on the wagon? That is remarkable.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:24 AM (u82oZ)

174 About to board my flight. Any bets on where the screaming baby is gonna be seated?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 08:24 AM (aZNua)

175 "Good morning all! Prayers for my SIL and nieces and nephew please. "

Sent.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:25 AM (cqNba)

176 Whatever those dark birds are that do amazing wheeling maneuvers in flocks of several hundred in the fall, here's a thought for the lean times.

An old man once told me that when he was young, he'd watch an old guy (one of those who never fully came out of the Depression) take his 20 gauge, sneak up on a flock loitering in his yard, and unload. The guy would take a 5 gallon bucket and barehanded rip the breast meat off the dead birds, take it inside, and prep it for dinner. Free meat.

Posted by: Utility muffin at August 18, 2019 08:25 AM (1Ze3Q)

177 "Any bets on where the screaming baby is gonna be seated?"

Sucker's bet.


Fly safe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:26 AM (cqNba)

178 Something the MFM is not telling you while not posting in photos of the Philly cop shooter. He was a radical muzzie.


https://tinyurl.com/y43grwdq

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 06:05 AM (mpXpK)


Just like we aren't hearing about the Dayton shooter being a Squaw Liz and Antifa supporter. Just like the Proud Boys rally in Portland was described as far-right extremist group and anti-fascist counter protesters. It's all propaganda all the time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 08:26 AM (eHcY5)

179
"Why did it take you so long to win?" Grant replied, "Because we were fighting Americans."

I was reading one of Bruce Catton's books. The North could have won in 1862 but instead of having a Patton as general we had a bunch of Montys: conscientious, knowledgeable, even courageous soldiers who wouldn't move unless every button was done up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:26 AM (Wx/+I)

180 the NYT is suggesting there is a racist connection to a nice lawn. "

Ah, so it is the 90's again - when "lawns" were rayciss, "picnic" was the new "n" word, and "rule of thumb" meant you could smack the ol' English broads w/a stick that size...

What's next, the Hansen Bros tour? Mmmmmm Bop.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:26 AM (6qErC)

181 Village Idiot's Apprentice

** Biden thought **

I know! Let's make killing someone illegal. We can all chant "murder bad" together.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:26 AM (u82oZ)

182 125 On the other hand, the NYT is suggesting there is a racist connection to a nice lawn.

Guess I'm gonna have to tell my son-in-law he's "acting white." Him with that nice yard that he can't leave alone, the good job, and the half million dollar house. Who does he think he is, anyway?*

*Democrats everywhere

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 08:27 AM (OX9vb)

183 Weapons of war is the new slogan for Leftists and their media arm the MSM."

*hides bayonet*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

****

Why no. That's not a flame thrower. It's a yard ornament.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 08:27 AM (aZNua)

184 We are in Mitchell, SD this morning, we'll see if we can find the corn palace. On our way to Roundup MT tonight with a stop at Mt. Rushmore. 
Posted by: clutch 


What a huge waste of time. Or a small waste of time. 

The Corn Palace. Not worth going to. Been there, done that.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 18, 2019 07:52 AM (S6Pax)

---------

Seconded. I remember going there expecting something remarkable. I was sorely disappointed

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 08:28 AM (flINI)

185 "I know! Let's make killing someone illegal. We can all chant "murder bad" together."

I told somebody IRL yesterday...
We need to make it illegal for folks to illegally possess a firearm.

Took them a bit........

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:28 AM (cqNba)

186 Trump rally in NH - 11,500 people

Biden rally at the same time - 30 people



There were thousands of people outside and driving by the Biden rally though.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:16 AM (Tnijr)


But the latest poll says every Dem wins in a landslide. The other thing the MFM has really started to push is Trump's re-election in jeopardy because of slowing economy. They are really pounding the recession drum as much as they can to get the LIVs to believe the economy is crashing.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 08:29 AM (eHcY5)

187 Hadrian the Seventh

But the uniforms looked fabulous during inspections. And the marching! Oh la la.

McClellan. *Spits*

To be fair, he did a great job organizing the Army.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:29 AM (u82oZ)

188 the black vultures are the aggressive ones (from what I just checked) ... the article says the turkey vultures won't attack cattle. Southern Illinois is (from article) the northern edge of their range, and they have killed calves there, not by me. They said turkey vultures only eat carrion.


I like watching the turkey vultures soar, and they clean up dad animals ... fun to watch them swoop around tracking down the smell. Dead animal in the road ... there is usually a turkey vulture working on it till the meat is gone ... nice tenderized meal.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 08:32 AM (Cus5s)

189 To be fair, he did a great job organizing the Army."

Shoulda stuck w/the railroads...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:32 AM (6qErC)

190 179 I was reading one of Bruce Catton's books. The North
could have won in 1862 but instead of having a Patton as general we had
a bunch of Montys: conscientious, knowledgeable, even courageous
soldiers who wouldn't move unless every button was done up.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:26 AM (Wx/+I)

The South's problem wasn't the Generals. It 3was Jefferson David who micromanaged the Generals. Lee hated his ass. Lee could have taken Washington DC early in the war but Davis order him back.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 08:32 AM (mpXpK)

191 TheQuietMan

I want to get a group of my friends to attend a Biden rally with me.

We nod our heads at the right parts, and at the end, we put on MAGA hats and yell, "Sore losers."

Unlikely to happen.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:33 AM (u82oZ)

192 Oooooo....
I wanna sit next to her!!!
I wanna sit next to her!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 08:33 AM (aZNua)

193 Kentucky has some stupid rule about only two beers per person per nine holes. How do they expect a person to play nine holes on only two beers?

I'm used to teeing off at 7am with a jug of Bloody Mary and a 12 pack to chase it down with.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:34 AM (eZ4HD)

194 Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 07:37 AM (2GPSc)

That was nice of you to give some advice and support.

Just a note-You might want to change your nic if you meant "quiet" ones instead of "quite". The support is quite nice but it's not the same as "quiet" And FTR, I make lots of typos-just usually not in my nic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 08:34 AM (+0VWg)

195 ^^^ I've been workin' on the railroads all day long..

chuff chuff chuffed....

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 08:34 AM (5IHGB)

196 I wanna sit next to her!!!
I wanna sit next to her!!! "

What, you're not in bidness class? Back row for you!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:34 AM (6qErC)

197 MAGA is not a real word in english.

:SNOPES

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:34 AM (cqNba)

198 Trump rally in NH - 11,500 people
Biden rally at the same time - 30 people


Did Biden hold a rally or go to McDonald's?

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 08:35 AM (g0Lfb)

199 197
MAGA is not a real word in english.



:SNOPES

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:34 AM (cqNba)

Its an acronym.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 08:35 AM (mpXpK)

200 illiniwek

I cal the turkey vulture's Gaia's recyclers.

Large deer roadkill + vultures = bones in 4 days. And some fat and happy birds.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:35 AM (u82oZ)

201 SNOPES is a bunch of partisan dopes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 08:35 AM (+0VWg)

202 What do you get when the Bee combines PDT with HGTV?


This.

https://bit.ly/30bOzt6

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:37 AM (cqNba)

203 157 Weapons of war is the new slogan for Leftists and their media arm the MSM.
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 08:15 AM (BbGew)

"Weapons of War" should be the most protected if they were consistent about the "militia" requirement, especially in the most common US calibers.

But they are not.

Posted by: Ghoti at August 18, 2019 08:37 AM (MwFQu)

204 For this years automated polls, I will be a 45 yo black female who loves her some Cory Booker or that New Age guru.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:38 AM (u82oZ)

205 SNOPES is a bunch of partisan dopes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 08:35 AM (+0VWg)


Snopes is two joyless NYC wretches in an apartment that smells like stale cat piss.

Rating: true

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 08:38 AM (t+qrx)

206 The Babylon Bee is not really news.


:SNOPES

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:39 AM (cqNba)

207 >>> Did Biden hold a rally or go to McDonald's?

Close. A pizza joint.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 08:39 AM (dCRRg)

208 Village Idiot's Apprentice

The Babylon Bee delivers the funny. Thanks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:40 AM (u82oZ)

209 For this years automated polls, I will be a 45 yo black female who loves her some Cory Booker or that New Age guru.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:38 AM


Why not yin to my yang?

Posted by: Andrew Yang at August 18, 2019 08:41 AM (DMUuz)

210 Andrew Yang

No. You have an ability / ego mismatch worthy of pbho. Just no.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:42 AM (u82oZ)

211 "especially when they chanted "Go, Joe! Go, Joe!" n unison."


Proof that every one of them was being paid $ to attend.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2019 08:42 AM (XNDy+)

212 Is Biden a stalking horse for someone ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 08:43 AM (+8+gB)

213 I like watching the turkey vultures soar, and they clean up dad animals ... fun to watch them swoop around tracking down the smell. Dead animal in the road ... there is usually a turkey vulture working on it till the meat is gone ... nice tenderized meal.
Posted by: illiniwek


At the end of winter, the buzzards return to Hinkley, Ohio. The town puts on a watch for them, and has a big pancake breakfast. It's kind of a fun big-deal.

Hinkley was just down the road from where I once lived in suburban, Cleveland, in North Royalton.
It's actually a nice little town in the high rolling hills, and most of it is all forested over with big trees and evergreens. Home to the buzzards.

Carry on.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 18, 2019 08:43 AM (S6Pax)

214 especially when they chanted "Go, Joe! Go, Joe!" n unison." 

-----------

Cue Leslie Nielson "Naked Gun" bathroom scene

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 18, 2019 08:43 AM (flINI)

215 Stayed at a Best Western hotel Friday night.

The fast-talking girl at the front desk told me the restaurant was 'Timex Confusion.'

It took me about ten seconds to figure out she was saying 'Thai-Mexican Fusion.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 18, 2019 08:44 AM (oVJmc)

216 sock_rat_eez

Nay. The Dems are like schools of fish. They just need a leader, and they spiral around and chant on cue.

At a Trump rally it is individuals uniting to chant "USA! USA! USA! "

Words never heard in a Dem rally.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:44 AM (u82oZ)

217 >>> Is Biden a stalking horse for someone ?

The Villages

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 08:44 AM (dCRRg)

218 Is Biden a stalking horse for someone ?
Posted by: REDACTED


A very.... small stalking horse. Maybe like a comfort animal?

He can travel on airplanes, you know?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 18, 2019 08:45 AM (S6Pax)

219 Kentucky has some stupid rule about only two beers per person per nine holes. How do they expect a person to play nine holes on only two beers? "

Really? 'cause I've played golf in Kentucky before... FWIW, tho - that's the rules at a lot of golf courses these days. Can't have people drinking, you know. They might have fun.

Thanks, MadMothersAgainstEverthing.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:45 AM (6qErC)

220 "SNOPES
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Its an acronym."

Saving
News
Or
Propaganda
Exalting
Socialism

Like that?

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 08:45 AM (Tnijr)

221 Are there a lot of golf cart accidents?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:46 AM (u82oZ)

222 ^^^ Travelling Man doesn't the golf interfere with your drinking?

Little known fact ALL NEAR WINNERS on the PGA for the last 35 years were HAMMERED by the last hole and took a Octruple Bogey and drowned in the greenside pond.

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 08:47 AM (5IHGB)

223
If it saves one caddy...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2019 08:48 AM (Wx/+I)

224 "Are there a lot of golf cart accidents?"
Can't be.

Otherwise MAGA (Mothers Against Golfing Alcoholics) would be screaming it to the tops of the mountains.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:48 AM (cqNba)

225 @anon y mouse

It's a public course so I guess ABC rules or something.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:48 AM (eZ4HD)

226 If it saves one caddy... "

So if there are caddys, then drinking is OK?

That's just SLAVERY, man!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:48 AM (6qErC)

227 The other thing the MFM has really started to push is Trump's re-election in jeopardy because of slowing economy. They are really pounding the recession drum as much as they can to get the LIVs to believe the economy is crashing.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 08:29 AM (eHcY5)

I noticed this last week. No matter what network or show, one (or more) of the talking heads on any panel brought up "slowing economy/recession"....what?

Posted by: BignJames at August 18, 2019 08:49 AM (ykq7q)

228 Hellooooo.....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 08:50 AM (l0HIT)

229 It's a public course so I guess ABC rules or something."

IIRC, Kentuk is one of those states that allows bizarre local rules. Not as bad as the old Carolina rules, but still stupid.

But it's for the chillen, so there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:50 AM (6qErC)

230 Work is done. Drink a beer or two, take a nap, then go play a round. See if I can walk on and join a threesome so I don't have to play by myself.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (eZ4HD)

231 Is Biden a stalking horse for someone ?
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2019 08:43 AM (+8+gB)
~~~~~

Michelle Obama.

No matter how many times she swears she doesn't want to run. She will.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (sGotD)

232 Sad about family breakup, pray he sees its a hard road but better in the long run.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (BbGew)

233 I got your bizarre alcohol rules right here.

Posted by: Commonwealth of PA at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (nDe2U)

234 No matter what network or show, one (or more) of the talking heads on any panel brought up "slowing economy/recession"....what?"

Yeah, that's a trial balloon that burst - the OMG MACY'S reports of last week got kinda bent by Amazon's increases...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (6qErC)

235 'I noticed this last week. No matter what network or show, one (or more) of the talking heads on any panel brought up "slowing economy/recession"....what?"

Perhaps this can explain it...

Democrats, chose only one.




[ ] Trump re-elected on a strong economy

[ ] Trump loses election, due to faltering economy

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (cqNba)

236 Well, time to get started on chores. Last night I dropped a tiny part inside the tractor. Could not fish it out. So I got to assemble a strong wet / dry vac to pull it out.

Then I can repair it.

Have a serene day, everyone. Stay blessed.

Remember, this is an absolutely exciting time to be alive. The historians will get it all wrong. But we will know, because we were there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:52 AM (u82oZ)

237 Walk on and join a threesome sounds kind of kinky now that I think about it.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:52 AM (eZ4HD)

238 Flipped to Clown Cable News, seems President Trump polls only at 40% and all Democrats even Warren poll higher.
Guess it's over, was fun while it lasted

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 08:52 AM (BbGew)

239 Be safe, Salty.


Good luck with the Wet/Dry

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:53 AM (cqNba)

240 Kentucky has some stupid rule about only two beers per person per nine holes. How do they expect a person to play nine holes on only two beers? "

***

Embrace the concept of a flask.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 08:53 AM (aZNua)

241 McClellan. *Spits*



To be fair, he did a great job organizing the Army.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2019 08:29 AM (u82oZ)
McLellan should be the patron saint of the NeverTrumpers. He hated Lincoln, did everything he could to sabotage him, and ran against him for President in 1864 on a platform of the War is a huge mistake and the north should recall it's armies and sue for peace immediately.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 18, 2019 08:53 AM (KS7KL)

242 237 Walk on and join a threesome sounds kind of kinky now that I think about it.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:52 AM (eZ4HD)

I almost Commented on that. And "so I don't have to play alone." Lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 08:54 AM (l0HIT)

243 My other hobby being cars n' stuff, the web folk have been hammering "car sales bad Trump Sux" for months - yet sales are still above levels during the reign of Teh Won, and profits PNVR are at record or near record levels...

*per new vehicle retailed*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:55 AM (6qErC)

244 Kentucky has some stupid rule about only two beers per person per nine holes. How do they expect a person to play nine holes on only two beers?

***

Embrace the concept of a flask.


Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 08:53 AM (aZNua)

*fistbump* Jameson... a shot after every third hole

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (BrRAn)

245 >>> Flipped to Clown Cable News, seems President Trump polls only at 40% and all Democrats even Warren poll higher.

President Elizabeth Warren.

I don't burst out laughing, but I have a smirking grin worthy of Covington Catholic.

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (dCRRg)

246 @ Cannibal Bob,

In all seriousness, for me, it's not as much fun playing golf as a single. Besides, in my travels, I meet all kinds of interesting people.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (eZ4HD)

247 A point of personal privilege!

Have we kowtowed to transgender Muslims enough this week? Answer me that, Vox!

Posted by: That Guy From Sacramento at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (NVYyb)

248 *per new vehicle retailed*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:55 AM (6qErC)

Don't forget that terrific program..Cash for Clunkers. Gees.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (l0HIT)

249 seems like the answering service lady screened me out before as "not a medical emergency" - I told her a possible retinal tear is an emergency - she said she'll call the dr again(?)

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 08:58 AM (+72t1)

250 But the latest poll says every Dem wins in a
landslide. The other thing the MFM has really started to push is Trump's
re-election in jeopardy because of slowing economy. They are really
pounding the recession drum as much as they can to get the LIVs to
believe the economy is crashing.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 08:29 AM (eHcY5)
it has occurred to me that again, because they have no impulse control, they've jumped the gun. You start this claim after the conventions, late summer 2020, maybe it has a shot at convincing people. But now? And we go to an election with them having screeched this for 16 months straight without it ever happening????That's the mistake that the global warming fanatics still haven't figured out. If you're going to predict Doom, Death, and Destruction year after year, sooner or later a little bit of that Doom has got to show up, otherwise people get wise to the fact that you're just the hippy on the street corner holding a sign saying 'THE END IS NEAR!!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 18, 2019 08:58 AM (KS7KL)

251 " and profits PNVR are at record or near record levels...

*per new vehicle retailed*

As a percentage of selling price, which is higher..

Automobiles, or Apple phones?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)

252 As a percentage of selling price, which is higher..

Automobiles, or Apple phones?"

Taxes on Gasoline and other vehicle products.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:59 AM (6qErC)

253 I am still stuck on yesterdays pet thread. With two Vizslas every day is a floppy-eared over-energized pet thread.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 08:59 AM (NVYyb)

254 fistbump* Jameson... a shot after every third hole
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (BrRAn)

****

*Fistbump*

But why are you skipping so many holes?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 09:00 AM (aZNua)

255 248
*per new vehicle retailed*



Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 08:55 AM (6qErC)



Don't forget that terrific program..Cash for Clunkers. Gees.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (l0HIT)

The used car inventory is just starting to recover from that BS illegal program.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:00 AM (mpXpK)

256 The books


They have arrived.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 09:01 AM (cqNba)

257 books up

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

258 In all seriousness, for me, it's not as much fun playing golf as a single. Besides, in my travels, I meet all kinds of interesting people.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 18, 2019 08:57 AM (eZ4HD)

Yeah, get it. I played golf twice. Both company trips. Got hit in the forearm with a drive when I shanked a ball and was looking for it. It would have embedded itself in my face if I hadn't gotten my hand up. And another when my drunken partner slid the cart sideways and launched me out. That was the best job I ever had. If I had the temperament for it, I could see it being a great sport for me. Stuck with tennis. Both you can play well into your 'mature' years.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (l0HIT)

259 The used car inventory is just starting to recover from that BS illegal program."

But the dealer body never has. But you folk in flyover country didn't need all those car and truck stores anyway, 'cause we're smahter than you and know what you really need.

'lectric golf carts. With solar panels and stuff.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (6qErC)

260 I told her a possible retinal tear is an emergency - she said she'll call the dr again(?)

Sounds like an emergency to me, vMom, and probably the rest here agree. Call back and tell her Dr. Horde instructed you to see an eye doctor immediately, if not sooner.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:03 AM (NVYyb)

261 The used car inventory is just starting to recover from that BS illegal program.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:00 AM (mpXpK)

Yes. Just. What a debacle.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 09:04 AM (l0HIT)

262 Kentucky has some stupid rule about only two beers per person per nine holes.

But there's four of us, so we get eight beers per nine holes. Math!

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 09:04 AM (NAs56)

263 Let us know how it turns our for you, VMom. I'm hoping for a good outcome.

When I had this a couple of years ago (29 + beaucoup), my doc only recommended moisturizing drops. I thought, "my eyes never really feel dry", but turns out the drops really do help mitigating that internal age-related dryness wrt the vitreous gel. I've not had a repeat episode since I've been using the drops.

Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (2GPSc)

264


The recession, the economy crashing talk the MFM is taking a page out of its 1992 playbook where Bush Sr. coming off the Gulf War looked unbeatable until the MFM started screaming that we were in a recession and playing up that he was clueless about it. What they can't get through their thick skulls is Trump isn't a Bush punching bag

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (WquF+)

265 I had a detached retina. Went blind in about 30 minutes. For it fixed fast. Get to a doctor.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (l0HIT)

266 Michelle Obama.

No matter how many times she swears she doesn't want to run. She will.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 08:51 AM (sGotD)

This sort of thing pops up in every cycle -- the fantastical candidate and candidacy, or the "brokered convention." For sure, these are strange times and anything can happen, but if she doesn't announce before the primaries, very difficult to imagine.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 09:08 AM (H8QX8)

267 But why are you skipping so many holes?

Man! If there was a shot after every hole, it'd be tough to drive home.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 18, 2019 09:09 AM (BrRAn)

268 >>> No matter how many times she swears she doesn't want to run. She will.

"Welcome, Ms. Obama. So tell us, are you proud of your country today?"

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 09:10 AM (dCRRg)

269 Good morning, brethren and cistern.

Salty, thumbs up on propane generator with auto transfer. Up here in Siberian NH, the power goes out monthly, more in the winter. Don't have a whole-house genset, just critical circuits - stove, furnace, fridge, Xbox. Oh, and router so I don't lose you guys.
And thinking ahead, nice to have in the burning times. Just get a really large underground tank.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:12 AM (RqZyu)

270 Join a threesome and there is a hole for everyone......

when is the British and American open........by the fifth hole in the HOLE Putt it in...who sez golf is a good walk "WASTED".......

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:19 AM (5IHGB)

271 This sort of thing pops up in every cycle -- the fantastical candidate and candidacy, or the "brokered convention." For sure, these are strange times and anything can happen, but if she doesn't announce before the primaries, very difficult to imagine.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 09:08 AM (H8QX
~~~~~

This is true. I thin we will see her throw her hat in the ring just before the Iowa primary..

Then again, I also predicted that the Obamas would be divorced within a year of him leaving office.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 09:19 AM (sGotD)

272 This is true. I thin we will see her throw her hat in the ring just before the Iowa primary..



Then again, I also predicted that the Obamas would be divorced within a year of him leaving office.





Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2019 09:19 AM (sGotD)'''
I suspect the Mooch will be "drafted" at the Democrat convention. The Democrat bosses don't like the current candidates and they know Trump will mop up the floor with any of them.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (mpXpK)

273 I wonder what Marilyn Monroe the III or IV is up to. Kennedy on the prowl!

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (RuIsu)

274 CINCPAC to Adm. Rockwell Torrey, who was having trouble with one of those gutless officers in "In Harm's Way":

"Lincoln had a problem with McClellan. He was a great little organizer but he couldn't make up his mind to fight. Grant didn't give a damn about organization but he knew when to fight. Torrey, you're gonna be my Grant."

'Moroning, Horde.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 09:50 AM (RuhkN)

275 " CINCPAC to Adm. Rockwell Torrey, who was having trouble with one of those gutless officers in "In Harm's Way":

Lots of lessons to be learned, watching that movie.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 09:58 AM (cqNba)

276 50 Need prayers And maybe advice
Late last night suddenly got a lot of new floaters in one eye - looked like ink dispersing in a glass This morning just one big floater and a couple tiny ones left
Thing is we drive KTY to college tomorrow and ate staying a couple of days (her bday) - 5 hours away.
Do I just ignore it until we get back?
------------------------------------------

Indeed, sounds like a PVD (posterior vitreous detachment). The posterior chamber of the eye is filled with collagen fibers and mucopolysaccharides that are remnants of the embryonic vasculature that fills the back of the eye during development, that magically degrades and becomes transparent before birth. The vitreous is loosely attached to the retina in a ring around the optic nerve and major drainage veins. As we approach the age of 29 (50+ in Moron years), the vitreous liquefies and can pull away from the retina.

This gives the flashes, caused by mechanical traction on the retina, and a sudden shower of floaters, which usually subside in 1-2 weeks. There is a small statistical chance of retinal detachment, so a full dilated retinal exam is recommended initially, followed by a follow-up exam at 6 weeks (the chance of retinal detachment is almost nil after 6 weeks). Almost everyone does well, but the floater(s) can persist and be a bit of a nuisance, but do not affect the health of the eye.

Posted by: stumck at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (IpZ/y)

277 My take on McClellan was he built up this great army and didn't want to see it ruined or take the chance of losing.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 11:12 AM (BbGew)

278 Vorkfukkenheit........my dick started working again dear.

Yeah ,so, I was at the Gym and this babe started spinning in front of me.....................

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (5IHGB)

279 It's genuinely very difficult in this active life to listen news on Television, thus I just use web for that purpose, and get the most recent news.

Posted by: descargar facebook at August 18, 2019 12:48 PM (l7KZ7)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (8/17/19)

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The Saturday Night Joke

Once upon a time, a Prince asked a beautiful Princess,

“Will you marry me?”

The Princess emphatically replied, “No!”

And the Prince lived happily ever after,
and
rode motorcycles
and
dated thin, long-legged, full-breasted women,
and
hunted and fished
and
raced cars, and went to titty bars
and
dated ladies half his age
and
drank whiskey, beer, and Captain Morgan,
and
never heard any bitching
and
never paid child support or alimony,
and
dated cheerleaders
and
kept his house and sports memorabilia,
and
ate spam, potato chips and beans,
and
blew enormous farts,
and
never got cheated on while he was at work,
and
had lots of dogs
and
all his friends and family thought
he was cool as hell,
and
had tons of money in the bank,
and...
left the toilet seat up.

The End H/T Legally Sufficient

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7 signs you are ready for the nude beach and resort


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This made me giggle.......


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We all work with an idiot or maybe more. But, have they ever made YouTube?


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Once upon a time I was a bachelor. Never, ever thought of doing this.

Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.

“Conventional wisdom — and basic common sense — tells us that we should change our underwear every day, or at least wash them after every wear,” Tommy John said in its statement announcing the results. “But how many people actually follow this golden rule? After surveying 1,000 Americans, we found that this basic standard of underwear hygiene is definitely not universal.”


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Quite the affliction.


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We previously covered this on The ONT, IIRC under the topic of long bows vs. cross bows. Cross bows for the win if you are a cultist. H/T Bitter Clinger


Members of German crossbow sex cult suicide pact took knock-out drops before they were willingly killed in attempt to be 'reborn in a higher realm', investigators believe

In May, a man and a woman were found with crossbow bolts through the heart, the female shooter had then turned the weapon on herself in Bavaria

Two days later, two other women who belonged to the sex cult were found dead 400 miles north in Wittengen

Detectives revealed today the two shot by crossbow had taken a knock-out narcotic, similar to a date rape drug, before they were willingly killed

Two found at the separate address are believed to have poisoned themselves


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"There, but for the grace of God, go I." Quite the photo essay.


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The ONT Musical Interlude



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He is honest. But still a Genius Award Winner.

A suspect who used a stolen debit card to purchase a cell phone, beer, and cigarettes signed the sales receipts as “Thief,” according to a Pennsylvania court filing.

Police report that the male suspect swiped the card from a woman who gave him a ride home from a bar last week. The debit card, cops say, was inside a purse in the center console of the woman’s vehicle.

The victim, Joei Thompson, noticed the purse was missing the following day and filed a report with police in Butler, a Pittsburgh suburb. But Thompson’s debit card had already been used to purchase a $200 iPhone 6S at a MetroPCS store and a case of beer and pack of cigarettes from Butler Beer and Tobacco


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Moron Campers.

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. Oh hell who am I kidding. I posted The ONT without permission. It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:30 PM




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1 Oh, my. Early.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:31 PM (w7U7L)

2 And first. Huh.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:31 PM (w7U7L)

3 Shall I keep talking to myself, or nood?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:32 PM (w7U7L)

4 Well, talking to myself is fun.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:32 PM (w7U7L)

5 Better than talking to Democrats.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:33 PM (w7U7L)

6 Or trolls.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:33 PM (w7U7L)

7 Except that troll from this morning. He was entertaining.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:33 PM (w7U7L)

8 Well, I nooded.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:34 PM (w7U7L)

9 Still empty, though.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:35 PM (w7U7L)

10 Hello (hello hello).

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:35 PM (w7U7L)

11 I want to get wasted on humburgers.

Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2019 09:35 PM (ed8K1)

12 What's the record for consecutive posts?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 09:35 PM (w7U7L)

13 Second?

Posted by: Lump at August 17, 2019 09:36 PM (p9n/K)

14 Early ONT with a good joke to boot.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at August 17, 2019 09:36 PM (+ldAm)

15 I could have interrupted Charles, but you were on a roll

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:36 PM (aA3+G)

16 Not second.....

Posted by: Lump at August 17, 2019 09:36 PM (p9n/K)

17 When meeting people in the nude, you can't make as many snap judgements about their lives or personalities.

LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 09:37 PM (UILOn)

18 This made me giggle.......

That's Tesla's new autonomous bike riding software being tested out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 09:38 PM (UILOn)

19 Shit, my secret has been found out

Posted by: Jughead Jones at August 17, 2019 09:39 PM (xY8lA)

20 ONT already?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:39 PM (tVQUs)

21 20 ONT already?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:39 PM (tVQUs)


Yup,

Have a problem with that?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:40 PM (aA3+G)

22 22nd!

Posted by: Robert, Metalhead Forevermore at August 17, 2019 09:41 PM (kBL6g)

23 It's not good for me to see the top of this thread

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2019 09:41 PM (BbGew)

24 Wow early ONT? Nice!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 17, 2019 09:42 PM (dUJdY)

25 Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days

The other 55% were lying.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:42 PM (tVQUs)

26 Good evening.

I am at a shipper.

They are shipping Element TVs.

I have been here since two in the afternoon.

I'm barely halfway through to the loading docks.

People?

If you want a cheap TV?

May I recommend Vizio.

Posted by: Robert, Metalhead Forevermore at August 17, 2019 09:43 PM (kBL6g)

27 ONT already?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:39 PM (tVQUs)


Yup,

Have a problem with that?


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:40 PM (aA3+G)

Not really, but seeing it at this hour threw me off.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:43 PM (tVQUs)

28 Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:43 PM (tVQUs)

I felt like posting early.
Sorry if I threw you off.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:46 PM (aA3+G)

29 Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.

The poll was mostly conducted in Detroit and Minnesota.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 09:46 PM (UILOn)

30 Posted by: Surfperch at August 17, 2019 09:43 PM (tVQUs)

I felt like posting early.
Sorry if I threw you off.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:46 PM (aA3+G)

It's fine.

Posted by: Surfperch, wondering where the rest of the Horde went at August 17, 2019 09:47 PM (tVQUs)

31 Howdy

I keep getting Error messages when trying to post something dumb so I'll keep it simple. Got nothing tonight anyway. Tired. Back to lurking and hitting F5 over and over and over......

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 17, 2019 09:47 PM (IQW98)

32 7. You understand that nude resort doesn’t equal sex resort.


Well, there goes my fat naked Germans fantasy.

Posted by: Pantsless Uncle Miklos-Bud at August 17, 2019 09:47 PM (QzkSJ)

33 29 Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.

The poll was mostly conducted in Detroit and Minnesota.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 09:46 PM (UILOn)

Since when do the wizard of the middle east wear underwear?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:48 PM (aA3+G)

34 Life is bleak meaninglessness filled with despair. No, wait. That was last thread.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 17, 2019 09:48 PM (+y/Ru)

35 The guy in the red dress at Walmart is George Carlin.

Posted by: Pantsless Uncle Budklos at August 17, 2019 09:48 PM (QzkSJ)

36 Puddleglum, don't feel alone.

I do that many nights as well.

well, I don't hit F5, I hit the reload clockwise symbol....

Posted by: booknlass at August 17, 2019 09:49 PM (xIKXj)

37 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days

That's disgusting.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 17, 2019 09:49 PM (dUJdY)

38 The Saturday Night Joke

I love a story with a good ending. Wish someone told me that a long long time ago. *sigh*

Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2019 09:49 PM (NWiLs)

39
Yikes!

Posted by: Spun & Murky at August 17, 2019 09:49 PM (4DCSq)

40 In May, a man and a woman were found with crossbow bolts through the heart, the female shooter had then turned the weapon on herself in Bavaria

Suicide by crossbow.

That's serious stuff. I think the coroner came out with the theory that Epstein committed suicide with a crossbow he made out of bed sheets, shoe soles, snot and bed springs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 09:49 PM (UILOn)

41 Tent full of heaven

Don't need 9-11

Posted by: Pantsless Uncle Budklos with the biker chick at August 17, 2019 09:50 PM (QzkSJ)

42 Since when do the wizard of the middle east wear underwear?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:48 PM (aA3+G)


It's a new thing for them so they get attached to them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 09:51 PM (UILOn)

43 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days

That's disgusting.



Right? Who wears underwear?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 09:51 PM (fuK7c)

44 I felt like posting early.
Sorry if I threw you off.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Premature mishumulation

Posted by: Pantsless Uncle Budklos with two (2) biker chicks at August 17, 2019 09:51 PM (QzkSJ)

45
Premature mishumulation
Posted by: Pantsless Uncle Budklos with two (2) biker chicks at August 17, 2019 09:51 PM (QzkSJ)


LOL

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 09:52 PM (aA3+G)

46 I'll wear jeans for a prolonged period of time, but underwear gets changed at each shower.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2019 09:53 PM (NWiLs)

47
What is it about 16 hours of underwear use that's the magic optimum? Maybe we're the ones who are disgusting and on some other planet they change every 8 hours.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 17, 2019 09:54 PM (13CQC)

48 I'll wear jeans for a prolonged period of time, but underwear gets changed at each shower.
Posted by: Insomniac

Especially the golden ones.

Posted by: Insom's Russian Chickpals at August 17, 2019 09:54 PM (QzkSJ)

49 Eleventh Sign of China's Imminent Collapse: The global shortage of Moo Goo for my Gai Pan.

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2019 09:55 PM (e8kgV)

50 Mis Hum thank you for the ONT and for "Dead Skunk"
I just drove past one last night on the way home from work, and thought of that song!


one more time, just in case somebody might like it: a wonderfully inspirational pro-POTUS 4 min. vid.

https://youtu.be/gWAgIVNzHKs

Deplorables Unite
(Do You hear the People Sing)

Posted by: booknlass at August 17, 2019 09:55 PM (xIKXj)

51 I'm being straight up when I say I don't ever think I've worn the same pair of underwear two days in a row - except maybe when camping or "on the road", until I could get changed.

Jeans are another story. Do that many people wear dirty underwear?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 09:56 PM (oAY8z)

52 I'll wear jeans for a prolonged period of time, but underwear gets changed at each shower.

-
Or every two weeks, whichever comes first.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 17, 2019 09:56 PM (+y/Ru)

53 Maybe we're the ones who are disgusting and on some other planet they change every 8 hours.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 17, 2019 09:54 PM (13CQC)

Maybe aliens wear their underwear on the outside like Superman.

Posted by: Robert, Metalhead Forevermore at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (kBL6g)

54 I wish I had video of all the Workers Comp claims I've handled. 80% of them would refute any serious njury as claimed occurred. 10% would be horrific though.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (2DOZq)

55 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days

That's disgusting.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 17, 2019 09:49 PM


The survey doesn't say "regularly", it implies "ever".

Also, does "two days" mean more than 48 hours or more than 24 hours.

And is that continuously? Or re-wear the next day when going to the laundromat?



Posted by: Chuck C at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (zCabI)

56 Jeans are another story. Do that many people wear dirty underwear?
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

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Clearly you have never worked in an ER or a Delivery Room.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (Y4EXg)

57 Eleventh Sign of China's Imminent Collapse: The global shortage of Moo Goo for my Gai Pan.
Posted by: SMOD

Substitute fugu.

It's killer.

Posted by: Iron Chef Miklos at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (QzkSJ)

58 A suspect who used a stolen debit card to purchase a cell phone, beer, and cigarettes signed the sales receipts as "Thief," according to a Pennsylvania court filing.


Justice 4 Thief!

Posted by: Jussie at August 17, 2019 10:00 PM (786Ro)

59 Mom was and E R nurse when I was a kid. I remember many conversations ending abruptly when I entered the room and my dad stifling laughter. I eavesdropped one time and heard tales of men coming in with all manner of things lodged in their rectums

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 10:01 PM (oAY8z)

60

Underwear gets changed daily, jeans according to what the chores are.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 17, 2019 10:01 PM (KATBx)

61 Not changing underwear daily I get.

Shoving things in your ass? That's a whole 'nother story.

Posted by: Robert, Metalhead Forevermore at August 17, 2019 10:02 PM (kBL6g)

62 . . .. when I entered the room and my dad stifling laughter. I eavesdropped one time and heard tales of men coming in with all manner of things lodged in their rectums
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

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Ah yes - and those items used to end up mounted (swidt) on the "trophy board" in the Physician's lounge.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 10:02 PM (Y4EXg)

63 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 10:02 PM (TcIpY)

64 Don't worry about posting early, MisHum. It gave me something to do before dinner.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 17, 2019 10:03 PM (w7U7L)

65 Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.



Disgusting. Sorry. I have taken as many as three showers and complete clothes changes in a day thanks to summer.

Evening all.

Evening all.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:03 PM (DlU13)

66 Well, that was a new one one me tonight.

Bartending a baby shower. It actually was pretty enjoyable. It was all black folks at the shower, so I was the token whitey. They were very nice people, fed me ribs and cornbread.

I'm not sure how I feel about Hennessey and Coke as a cocktail, but they certainly seemed to enjoy it and tipped me well.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:03 PM (YA914)

67 60

Underwear gets changed daily, jeans according to what the chores are.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 17, 2019 10:01 PM (KATBx)


That sounds like my routine.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:03 PM (aA3+G)

68 57 Eleventh Sign of China's Imminent Collapse: The global shortage of Moo Goo for my Gai Pan.
Posted by: SMOD

Substitute fugu.

It's killer.
Posted by: Iron Chef Miklos at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (QzkSJ)

---------------------------

If you're on a budget, and need to sub fugu for Moo Goo, go to Hugo's where your fugu is bogo.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:03 PM (Zbbka)

69 Clean underwear or Valu-Rite?

Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose" is more relevant than ever.

Posted by: Miklos, sans culotte at August 17, 2019 10:03 PM (QzkSJ)

70 Well hello hello. I'm not going to last long...it's been a long week, I'm exhausted and tipsy.

Our garage has been installed on the new property. The house has been ordered to specification. Countdown approximately 2-3 months for move.


Hey you, big bro. I hope all is well in your world.

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:04 PM (SRarZ)

71 Obamam inauguration speech -

Underwear should always be worn on the outside so the government can check that you have changed it every half hour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkYfmRwryQo

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:04 PM (UILOn)

72 Speaking of Vizio.

Are there *any* decent grade, modern TVs that aren't set up as in-home spy devices?




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 17, 2019 10:04 PM (QzJWU)

73 Good grooming tip #7-turning underwear inside out will double wear time and save the environment.

Give a hoot-don't pollute!

Posted by: Dusky Bull at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (XXaRO)

74 If you're on a budget, and need to sub fugu for Moo Goo, go to Hugo's where your fugu is bogo.
Posted by: No One of Consequence

There's a song about that.

Posted by: Miklos "Pere" Ubu at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (QzkSJ)

75 Cognac and Coke? Hmmm. Which is just brandy and coke.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (ycWCI)

76 Somebody cleaned up that joke. The first time I saw it, it said "ass-f*cked cheerleaders".

Just thought the Horde should know. What with all the b*tt sex fascination.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (RqZyu)

77 70 Well hello hello. I'm not going to last long...it's been a long week, I'm exhausted and tipsy.

Our garage has been installed on the new property. The house has been ordered to specification. Countdown approximately 2-3 months for move.


Hey you, big bro. I hope all is well in your world.
Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:04 PM (SRarZ)

Hey Lil Sis.
So good to see you here.
Sounds like the move is coming along!
Good for you folks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (aA3+G)

78 tipsy?

Piker

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (oAY8z)

79 I change my skivvies every day. I hate not having fresh skivvies.

I will wear the same shirts and jeans forever. But my stuff must be cradled in cottony freshness.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (1b0OH)

80 Who the f doesn't wear clean undies everyday? Yikes.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (BLFnH)

81 I love nude beaches and nude saunas. I think nudist resorts are weird.

The first two are hey your body is natural and this is a cool thing to do. The resort sounds like hey let's all go look at each other naked.

I haven't been to a resort, so this is just prejudice.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (fuK7c)

82 Clearly you have never worked in an ER or a Delivery Room.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (Y4EXg)


I thought all mothers warned their children to always wear clean underwear just in case they were in an accident and had to go the Emergency Room ... That's like classic Americana.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (UILOn)

83 boy-oh-boy, did you see that cement truck fall in that hole?!

i love foreign films.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (Pg+x7)

84 "Take away the bird baths
And dirty birds will soon be ev'rywhere
Take away their feathers and
The birds will walk around in underwear....."



How often do birds change their underwear?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (Vy7tf)

85 have a lovely ONT, all.

I'm tucking in sewing a binding onto a quilt so I can mail it off Monday for a world convention raffle.

so I'll be watching TV with one eye, and sewing with the other.

might see ya's later

Posted by: booknlass at August 17, 2019 10:07 PM (xIKXj)

86 82 Clearly you have never worked in an ER or a Delivery Room.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (Y4EXg)

I thought all mothers warned their children to always wear clean underwear just in case they were in an accident and had to go the Emergency Room ... That's like classic Americana.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (UILOn)


Mine did.
And my Father threatened to send me to the ER on several occasions.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

87 A quick thought, relating to the movie thread.

So artsy filmmakers use rape in their stories to ruminate on the human condition but that shits old hat and easy to figure.

Now if artsy filmmakers were to tell stories ruminating on why guys shove things up their ass? THAT would be interesting!

Posted by: Robert's asshole is inviolable at August 17, 2019 10:07 PM (kBL6g)

88 58 A suspect who used a stolen debit card to purchase a cell phone, beer, and cigarettes signed the sales receipts as "Thief," according to a Pennsylvania court filing.


Justice 4 Thief!
Posted by: Jussie



Ah, my beloved home state. The Florida of the North.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (IQW98)

89 82 Clearly you have never worked in an ER or a Delivery Room.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 09:57 PM (Y4EXg)

I thought all mothers warned their children to always wear clean underwear just in case they were in an accident and had to go the Emergency Room ... That's like classic Americana.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:06 PM (UILOn)

------------------------------

Of course, the flaw in that logic is that the skivvies probably won't be clean after the accident.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (Zbbka)

90 He who has not worn the same underwear two days in a row, has not stayed up all night on a drunken bender and gone in to work the next day with no sleep and still drunk.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (YA914)

91 >>> I thought all mothers warned their children to always wear clean underwear just in case they were in an accident and had to go the Emergency Room

If it's an accident fit for the ER, the underwear won't be clean.

Posted by: fluffy at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (dCRRg)

92 Are there *any* decent grade, modern TVs that aren't set up as in-home spy devices?




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

Get an old Soviet "Luks" TV.

It spies, but SECAM and PAL are not compatible.

Posted by: Miklos for YOU! from KMIK Live, reporting at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (QzkSJ)

93 76 Somebody cleaned up that joke. The first time I saw it, it said "ass-f*cked cheerleaders".

Just thought the Horde should know. What with all the b*tt sex fascination.
Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (RqZyu)

Needs more boobs.

https://tinyurl.com/y6ovlhca

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (ycWCI)

94 Hello, how are you? It's been very warm here today. Hot, even.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:09 PM (GaOgf)

95 Have we reached consensus vis-a-vis loins? Once girded, how long is TOO long to stay that way?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (t+qrx)

96 The Wilson Sisters are the first broads of American Rock! I cannot think of anyone before or since as good. {Please don't try and place Joan Jett in their class.}

Posted by: Locke Common at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (NanIO)

97 Hey Lil Sis.

So good to see you here.

Sounds like the move is coming along!

Good for you folks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:05 PM (aA3+G)


Yeah, it's coming along. After lagging for so long, things have gone into full speed ahead mode. Scary, and my anxiety has kicked in full speed but I keep reminding myself that this is 5 acres of paradise and I have nothing to fear at all.

Off to blue state hell, but a red county and close enough to mom and dad for a visit for supper, which I have never experienced. It will be a blessing.

Nice to see you all!

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (SRarZ)

98 95 Have we reached consensus vis-a-vis loins? Once girded, how long is TOO long to stay that way?
Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (t+qrx)

We talking cod pieces?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (ycWCI)

99 >>> Ah, my beloved home state. The Florida of the North.

Hold my bee-yuh.

Posted by: Maine at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (dCRRg)

100 He who has not worn the same underwear two days in a row, has not stayed up all night on a drunken bender and gone in to work the next day with no sleep and still drunk.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Yep.


Could barely watch all the porn I had scheduled for that shift.

Posted by: Federal Employee, AFSCME at August 17, 2019 10:11 PM (QzkSJ)

101 He who has not worn the same underwear two days in a row, has not stayed up all night on a drunken bender and gone in to work the next day with no sleep and still drunk.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:08 PM (YA914)


It's not a "new" day until you go to sleep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:11 PM (UILOn)

102 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at August 17, 2019 10:11 PM (JFzNN)

103 Oh, dear, Aetius. The distraction could affect the aim.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:11 PM (RqZyu)

104 Jim, not the new ones. I have flat screens before the lenses. Hope they last.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:11 PM (BLFnH)

105 Plus there's sweating that occurs in this kind of heat. I mean, ewww. If there's an area that screams for clean fabrics to cover, it's the taintular region

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 10:11 PM (oAY8z)

106 I thought all mothers warned their children to always wear clean underwear just in case they were in an accident and had to go the Emergency Room ... That's like classic Americana.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

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My mom sure did. But the ironic thing about that is - if you are busted up enough to wake up in the ER, you really don't care what your apparel looks like.

Mom worked midnights in the delivery room - a number of times she'd sit at the breakfast table and tell her brood that she sent a patient back down to the ER to be hosed off so that the patient was clean enough to participate in a safe delivery.

Thanks Mom!

*gently pushes bowl of Kaboom away*

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 10:12 PM (Y4EXg)

107

Underwear should be boxer briefs with three holes. Everyday you slide to the right one hole. After 3 days you turn in my inside out and slide back. The seventh day you go commando as God intended. One pair of week to save the Earth for the children!

Posted by: Panty Sniffers Monthly at August 17, 2019 10:12 PM (BSLTV)

108 You get skeets and scabida from not changing your draws. Don't even get me started on fromunda buildup.

Posted by: dartist at August 17, 2019 10:12 PM (K22Va)

109 More thunderstorms tonight. There goes my gardening plans. I hope my husband turns the damn tv off tonight. Bitching and moaning this morning because he got no sleep. TV kept sending out tstorm warnings. Never occured to him to turn it off I guess.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 17, 2019 10:12 PM (dUJdY)

110 98 95 Have we reached consensus vis-a-vis loins? Once girded, how long is TOO long to stay that way?
Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (t+qrx)

We talking cod pieces?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (ycWCI)

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Who the hell girds their loins with pieces of cod?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (Zbbka)

111 Along the lines of the joke, but considerably more ribald, the Best Divorce Letter Ever:

http://bit.ly/2YZYkOs

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (fuK7c)

112 We talking cod pieces?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Egads!

Forsooth!!

Posted by: Miklospeare at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (QzkSJ)

113 What kind of underwear do you prefer? For yourself, I mean.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (GaOgf)

114 We talking cod pieces?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (ycWCI)


An excellent question.

Guidance is clearly needed.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (t+qrx)

115 113 What kind of underwear do you prefer? For yourself, I mean.
Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (GaOgf)
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Clean?

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2019 10:14 PM (iS8aH)

116 Who the hell girds their loins with pieces of cod?
Posted by: No One of Consequence

It's been a while, you know?

Posted by: 17th century fisherman at the Grand Banks at August 17, 2019 10:14 PM (QzkSJ)

117 Who the hell girds their loins with pieces of cod?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (Zbbka)


You've never seen "cod loins" on a menu?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:14 PM (t+qrx)

118 What kind of underwear do you prefer? For yourself, I mean.


Yeah, but now I'm gettin' old, don't wear underwear
I don't go to church and I don't cut my hair
But I can go to movies and see it all there
Just the way that it used to be

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:15 PM (YA914)

119 What kind of underwear do you prefer? For yourself, I mean.
Posted by: ALH



Boxer briefs.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:15 PM (DlU13)

120

What is gird, anyway?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:15 PM (aKsyK)

121 We talking cod pieces?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (ycWCI)

An excellent question.

Guidance is clearly needed.
Posted by: hogmartin

CONSUMER ALERT

Many "codpeices" are actually made of cheaper kinds of fish.

Posted by: Miklos for YOU!! reporting at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (QzkSJ)

122 Yeah, it's coming along. After lagging for so long, things have gone into full speed ahead mode. Scary, and my anxiety has kicked in full speed but I keep reminding myself that this is 5 acres of paradise and I have nothing to fear at all.

Off to blue state hell, but a red county and close enough to mom and dad for a visit for supper, which I have never experienced. It will be a blessing.

Nice to see you all!
Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (SRarZ)

We've been at our new place almost a year now. In our dream place. Glad your folks are still alive to visit now and again.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)

123 Clean. Boxer Briefs. I'm no fashionista, but I started wearing the boxer briefs in the early '90s before they were a "thing".

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (oAY8z)

124 120

What is gird, anyway?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:15 PM (aKsyK)


------------------------------

The 58th gender?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (Zbbka)

125 What is gird, anyway?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Similar to battening down the hatches.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (DlU13)

126 I am not ready for a nude beach and/or resort. I have never been ready for a nude beach and/or resort. I will never ever be ready for a nude beach and/or resort.

Also Sprach bluebell.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:17 PM (aXucN)

127 Hello, how are you? It's been very warm here today. Hot, even.
Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:09 PM (GaOgf)

Not here. Some moments of warm, but mostly breezy and cool. Lots of clouds rolling overhead.

And yet. And yet. Some time in early September we'll get the Official Declaration: August 2019 Hottest Evar!

Just like the one I recently saw: July 2019 Hottest Evar! Despite the fact that me and Mrs. Mahon drove to Steamboat Springs in mid-July, and saw six or more inches of fresh snow on the passes (Cameron and Rabbit Ears). We saw rain and swollen rivers all the way to Meeker.

I wave my genitals at the Glowball Enwarmening dipshits. In a derisive manner, to be clear.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:17 PM (1b0OH)

128 Muchas cosas buenas Senor MisHum!

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 10:17 PM (K026y)

129 Boxers ever since the army took the clothes from my back and sent them home.

Posted by: dartist at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (K22Va)

130 Every year, I put one thing at the top of my Christmas List. (to buy for myself)...

Two dozen new pairs of high-quality cotton boxers.

And the same number of new cotton tee shirts.

Old tee shirts get put in the fire-tight rag bin out in the garage, or torn up into gun-cleaning cloths.

And unlike the Clintons, I don't write the old ones off on my taxes.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (QzJWU)

131 Many "codpeices" are actually made of cheaper kinds of fish.
Posted by: Miklos for YOU!! reporting at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (QzkSJ)


a.k.a. the pollock pouch.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (t+qrx)

132 but not tucking, gird but never tuck unless sh#t gets very real

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (oAY8z)

133 121 We talking cod pieces?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:10 PM (ycWCI)

An excellent question.

Guidance is clearly needed.
Posted by: hogmartin

CONSUMER ALERT

Many "codpeices" are actually made of cheaper kinds of fish.
Posted by: Miklos for YOU!! reporting at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (QzkSJ)

----------------------------

Beware "scrodpieces". They're cheap Chinese knock-offs.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (Zbbka)

134

Captain Kirk is fighting rubber vomit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (aKsyK)

135 We need rain, or the grass will start turning brown.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (GaOgf)

136 We've been at our new place almost a year now. In our dream place. Glad your folks are still alive to visit now and again.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)


Oh I am so happy for you!!! This is our dream place as well. 5 acres of solitude in the country, entire property is wooded except for what Mr D has cleared for the house/garage/garden/chicken coop. I am so glad to be getting out of the DFW metroplex with it's 7+ million people. I am a country girl at heart.

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (SRarZ)

137 What kind of underwear do you prefer? For yourself, I mean.
Posted by: ALH

Answer correctly, play a bit of sax, and you too can be President one day.

Posted by: Miklos "Arsenio" Hall at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (QzkSJ)

138 126 I am not ready for a nude beach and/or resort. I have never been ready for a nude beach and/or resort. I will never ever be ready for a nude beach and/or resort.

Also Sprach bluebell.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:17 PM (aXucN)


Me thinketh you protesteth too mucho

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (aA3+G)

139 Hello and good evening, bluebell! Welcome to the ONT. Please enjoy your stay.

You'll never guess what the topic of conversation is.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (t+qrx)

140 I will never ever be ready for a nude beach


What about getting nekkid on a beach if you and your boy have it all to yourselves?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (fuK7c)

141 So I just spent a week at my parents' in Houston, or in /Ioag as pixy called it. Said kaddish (poorly) for grandma. Fortunately nobody seemed to notice.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (ykYG2)

142 When your briefs walk away
At the same time of day
That's disgusting.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (RqZyu)

143 135 We need rain, or the grass will start turning brown.
Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (GaOgf)

We are about to that point.
Had a wonderful day hope you did as well.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:20 PM (aA3+G)

144 Old tee shirts get put in the fire-tight rag bin out in the garage, or torn up into gun-cleaning cloths.



*fistbump

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:20 PM (DlU13)

145 Also Sprach bluebell.

Posted by: bluebell

No place to hide the shiv.

Ich verstehe.

Posted by: Miklos von Lettow-Vorbeck at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (QzkSJ)

146 Bander, I can't imagine ever a beach that my boy and I would have all to ourselves, so no.

Also, I have become so sensitive to sun that I just hide under umbrellas and big hats and sunglasses, even covered with sunscreen. In fact, my husband is always having to clean sunscreen off the arm rests in the car where I sit. He doesn't complain about it, much.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (aXucN)

147 I go to beaches and resorts to look at pretty things and swim in the ocean. 55 year old wrinkly nutz, gutz, and bewbz owned by strange perverts will never be pretty, and getting my schwanz nipped by crabs will never be fun.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (ykYG2)

148
Took a nap, got woken up by the 8:00 alarm for Her Majesty's medicine. Another nap until midnight, then another at 4:00 AM, at which point I'll stay up. Hope we can go to a 6-hour cycle soon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (Wx/+I)

149 Had a wonderful day hope you did as well.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:20 PM (aA3+G)

We went to a country auction tonight. Those are always fun.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (GaOgf)

150 I'm ignoring the underwear talk because....*vomit*

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (SRarZ)

151 Speaking of Heart this song really taps into some part of me that wants to put on green tights and traipse around jolly ole fucking Engerlond.

Sylvan Song/ Dream Of The Archer

https://youtu.be/NIZUlS7c4yg

Posted by: Robert's asshole is inviolable at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (kBL6g)

152 113 What kind of underwear do you prefer? For yourself, I mean.
Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:13 PM (GaOgf)

Boxer briefs. Just the right amount of support without being constricting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (ycWCI)

153 Is the traditional cod piece superior to the flounder redounder?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (YA914)

154 Said kaddish (poorly) for grandma. Fortunately nobody seemed to notice.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (ykYG2)
-------

Ah, dear hobo, sorry about your bubbe.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (aXucN)

155 Switchin' freeks...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (7WaWV)

156 134

Captain Kirk is fighting rubber vomit.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:18 PM (aKsyK)

Operation: Annihilate?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (ycWCI)

157 There is a reporter for a Portland alt-weekly named Katie Shepherd. She mostly writes about Antifa (or "anti-fascists", as she puts it). She is completely and utterly pro-Antifa - her stuff reads like North Korean propaganda on behalf of Antifa.

It would not surprise me in the slightest to discover that she lets Rose City Antifa review her articles prior to publication.

Well, Katie isn't going to be writing for the alt-weekly anymore. She has been hired by the Washington Post.

Aside from the fact that it is astonishing that anyone would read her stuff and think. "this is just the sort of thing I want her to write for my paper!", I do wonder what Bezos is thinking.

Not that Bezos makes individual hiring decisions, but he does control the direction of the paper. Antifa is comprised of individuals that would stand by the roadside and cheer as Bezos was trundled off to the guillotine.

I'm sure he thinks that Antifa is a useful ally against Trump, but if things ever go south in this country, I'm not sure if Bezos has thought through the consequences of encouraging an organization that generally believes that all rich people should be executed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (I2/tG)

158 Aaaaah... That's better!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (7WaWV)

159 My condolences, BTH.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (ycWCI)

160 150 I'm ignoring the underwear talk because....*vomit*
Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (SRarZ)

You'll love the seclusion. We are in the middle of our property and can't see anyone. Helps living on a dead end street as well.

I really am a misanthrope

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

161 Said kaddish (poorly) for grandma.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:19 PM (ykYG2)


It's good that you did that.

How are your parents?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (t+qrx)

162 I'm ignoring the underwear talk because....*vomit*
Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:22 PM (SRarZ)
---------

*fistbump*

Is this your new home in Delaware you've been talking about? When's the move-in day? So exciting!

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (aXucN)

163 Hadrian the Seventh

Thank you for the music.

And sounds like you are a caring, concerned husband. Prayers ascending for you both.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (u82oZ)

164 Bluebell, you know the rules. Pix, or we can't correctly judge whether the nood beach is right for you.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (RqZyu)

165 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (Wx/+I)

Prayers ascending. you are one of the good guys.

God bless.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (1b0OH)

166 Bander, I can't imagine ever a beach that my boy and I would have all to ourselves, so no.


Academic tip, since you're unlikely to use it. Out on the outer Cape go to a beach. Say, Head of the Meadow Beach in Truro. Walk down the beach a mile or two.

There are only so many access points and nobody walks more than a few hundred yards or half a mile at most. Walk more than a mile and you have the best beach in the world all to yourselves and you can enjoy the liberating nekkidness.

This isn't theory, I have pictures.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (fuK7c)

167 owned by strange perverts will never be pretty, and getting my schwanz nipped by crabs will never be fun.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:21 PM (ykYG2)

Snap

Snap

*Winks an eye stalk at you*

Posted by: A Saucy Crab at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (kBL6g)

168 Yoko goes commando.

Posted by: Intragalactic Yoko Ono Artistry Appreciation Association, AoSHQ Claque at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (DMUuz)

169 RI Red, never in a million years, and you have to trust me on this, you're far better off not seeing anything.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:25 PM (aXucN)

170 Me thinketh you protesteth too mucho

Don't go to a nude beach. Go to a beach in Turkey frequented by Russian tourists. The beauty of many of the women is simply astonishing, and they are 95% naked anyway.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2019 10:25 PM (I2/tG)

171
and
died alone

Posted by: Thomas Cranmer at August 17, 2019 10:25 PM (pZ7QW)

172 >>> getting my schwanz nipped by crabs will never be fun.

You're not doing it right, then.

Posted by: fluffy at August 17, 2019 10:26 PM (dCRRg)

173 My blessed mother was an ER nurse for 30 years. She scoffed at that. More often than not if they needed someone's pants off they cut them off. We changed the whitey tights every day because she told us to.

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 10:26 PM (K026y)

174 parents are good. grandma actually passed over a decade ago but it just took my mum this long to decide how she wanted to do the memorial service. since she's Christian although grandma wasn't.

Religion's always been weird in our house.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:26 PM (ykYG2)

175 Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.


But how many of us are free balling?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 17, 2019 10:26 PM (yQpMk)

176 Bander, I'm just going to have to take your word for it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:27 PM (aXucN)

177 52 I'll wear jeans for a prolonged period of time, but underwear gets changed at each shower.

-
Or every two weeks, whichever comes first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 17, 2019 09:56 PM

Well, yeah.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2019 10:27 PM (NWiLs)

178 Posted by: A Saucy Crab

Kamala and Willie are over there *points over there*

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:27 PM (ykYG2)

179 One purchases new underwear when it either becomes threadbare or the elastic wears out.

Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM (cNlpM)

180 grass had been brown in central OH for many weeks, crazy rains in April/May/well into June, then the good Lord turned off the water and turned up the heat big time.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM (oAY8z)

181 Confucius say women who wear low cut blouses will be looked down upon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM (YA914)

182 AoSHQ Claque



Is a group of Cercopithecinae a Claque of Macaques?

Posted by: Miklos who had clackers as a kid at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM (QzkSJ)

183 I jumped to the bottom, so maybe answered already, but that car that fell off the rack- did it crush two people?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM (87EdW)

184 I'll wear jeans for a prolonged period of time, but underwear gets changed at each shower.

-
Or every two weeks, whichever comes first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur

Rains here every day.

Posted by: Miklos, doing his best unwashed Frenchman shrug at August 17, 2019 10:29 PM (QzkSJ)

185 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish

Yeah, been a weird year in CO. Wonder if it's going to be a rough winter. We're due.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (BLFnH)

186 Ok, maybe I'm sharing too much, but Mrs. R and I had a beach to ourselves in the Caribbean once and got nekkid. Of course we were maybe in our 30s and buff.
The kicker? It was just south of Pedo Island.
NTTAWWT.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (RqZyu)

187 I really am a misanthrope

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)


Like big bro like little sis...


*fistbump*



Is this your new home in Delaware you've been talking about? When's the move-in day? So exciting!



Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:24 PM (aXucN)



Yes! We plan move around late October/early November if all goes to plan. The house will supposedly be built/installed in 6-8 weeks. Also need well and septic done and power hooked up as well as gas. Then we will have a place that is not finished completely (deck on back, porch front and other improvements) but can be moved into. We've sold our house here, have to close by Dec. 6 but plan to before then. I cannot wait to get back home-ish and be close to my family/friends!

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (SRarZ)

188 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (ycWCI)

189 grass had been brown in central OH for many weeks


When the river catches fire, local ordinances prohibit watering the lawn.

Posted by: Miklos, Burn on, Big River at August 17, 2019 10:31 PM (QzkSJ)

190 Or the Polish girl who had panties embroidered January, February....

Posted by: CMU VET at August 17, 2019 10:31 PM (C+wjz)

191 wear out of the package?

Phrasing?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:31 PM (YA914)

192 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Thought the "package" was supposed to be inside.

Posted by: Miklos, but what do I know at August 17, 2019 10:31 PM (QzkSJ)

193 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?
Posted by: Aetius451AD



Wash first.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (DlU13)

194 I wonder if a lifelong habit of changing one's underwear at least twice a day is weird...

(Inquiring on behalf of an acquaintance!)

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (7WaWV)

195 What is gird, anyway?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:15 PM (aKsyK)


What a girder does ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (UILOn)

196 wash first. same as bras.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (BLFnH)

197 You know who else just needs a good belt? Huma! Open the backup liquor cabinet!

Posted by: Hillary! at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (gHCnG)

198 188 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (ycWCI)


Is there a correct answer?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (aA3+G)

199 "But the Prince never looked into the eyes of his newborn daughter and saw there the face of G-d, and so died, after his long and adventurous, free life, with a broken heart."

Posted by: Sharkman at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (bQngX)

200 Members of German crossbow sex cult suicide pact ... were willingly killed in attempt to be 'reborn in a higher realm',...

..., a man and a woman were found with crossbow bolts through the heart, the female shooter had then turned the weapon on herself in Bavaria

Two days later, two other women who belonged to the sex cult were found dead 400 miles north in Wittengen



The cheer of East German Chancellor, Angela Merkle is pervasive.

Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (cNlpM)

201 AoSHQ Claque



Is a group of Cercopithecinae a Claque of Macaques?
Posted by: Miklos who had clackers as a kid at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM (QzkSJ)


I wonder what they might be called if they were endemic to the Carolinas.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:33 PM (t+qrx)

202 wear out of the package?

Phrasing?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Pret-a-Porter or off the rack?

Posted by: Miklos, attentive K-Mart Shopper at August 17, 2019 10:33 PM (QzkSJ)

203 And, BTW, you boxer lovers. Ever heard of old man b*lls? Not happening with tighty whiteys.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:33 PM (RqZyu)

204 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (ycWCI)


Why would you take them out of the package? It ruins the collector value.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (t+qrx)

205 Is a group of Cercopithecinae a Claque of Macaques?
Posted by: Miklos who had clackers as a kid at August 17, 2019 10:28 PM


"What are we, chopped liver?"
-- Baboons and Vervets

Posted by: Intragalactic Yoko Ono Artistry Appreciation Association, AoSHQ Claque at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (DMUuz)

206 I cannot wait to get back home-ish and be close to my family/friends!
Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (SRarZ)
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That's wonderful. Sounds like you'll have Christmas back home at the very least and probably Thanksgiving too. I'm so happy for you.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (aXucN)

207 199 "But the Prince never looked into the eyes of his newborn daughter and saw there the face of G-d, and so died, after his long and adventurous, free life, with a broken heart."
Posted by: Sharkman at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (bQngX)

The newborn, this is not the Prince's daughter.

Posted by: Paolo at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (NWiLs)

208 Is there a correct answer?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (aA3+G)

Not really. Just curious. I wear straight out of the plastic, I do not care what that episode of House said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (ycWCI)

209 R and I had a beach to ourselves in the Caribbean once and got nekkid. Of course we were maybe in our 30s

You people are sick! Sick and twisted.

Posted by: Zombie Jeffrey Epstein at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (EYsyU)

210 I wonder what they might be called if they were endemic to the Carolinas.
Posted by: hogmartin

Adirondacks.

Posted by: Miklos, speciesist at August 17, 2019 10:35 PM (QzkSJ)

211 Yeah, boxer briefs hit the sweet spot for me with respect to support and comfort.

I've never liked the feel of all that extra fabric down the legs with classic boxers, plus the fabrics they make most regular boxers out of is kind harsh, and generally sucks at absorbing sweat (and yeah, the occasional accidental drip).

Classic briefs are TOO confining.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 10:35 PM (b1Typ)

212 wash first. same as bras.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (BLFnH)


Same as all clothes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:35 PM (UILOn)

213 But the Prince never looked into the eyes of his newborn daughter and saw there the face of G-d, and so died, after his long and adventurous, free life, with a broken heart."
Posted by: Sharkman

This moran gets it!

*High five

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 10:35 PM (K026y)

214 Confuscious say man who no wash new underwear with fabric softener wear out package.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2019 10:35 PM (YA914)

215 Yeah, been a weird year in CO. Wonder if it's going to be a rough winter. We're due.
Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (BLFnH)

Wondering that myself.

When I lived in Montana, we had a summer (1993) that really was not a summer. Rained every day. Saw snow in the Bozeman area even in July. 4th of July in Cody WY, it was cold and cloudy, upper 50s. Truly bizarre.

This summer in CO might not be that crazy, but it has not been any kind of what I usually see here.

Just a week ago we were driving through the Flat Tops and saw rain and temps in the upper 50s.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:35 PM (1b0OH)

216 Greetings fappers and fappees. Just got in from my gig, got B'Gal fed and boy I can't think of anything to put at the end of this sentence. I mean, no joke, no nothin'.

I haz sad.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (HaL55)

217 Why would you take them out of the package? It ruins the collector value.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (t+qrx)

Spoken by a true commando.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (BLFnH)

218 "German crossbow suicide sex cult".

Five words that one would ever imagine would go together in exactly that order, but upon further reflection, one would immediately smack one's forehead and exclaim: " But of course."

Posted by: Sharkman at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (bQngX)

219 188 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (ycWCI)

depends

Posted by: Hillary at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (GaOgf)

220


There once was a man from Nantucket
Who purchased a shirt from Untuckit
It started to stink
And it started to shrink
When washed in an old rusty bucket

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (aKsyK)

221 That's wonderful. Sounds like you'll have Christmas
back home at the very least and probably Thanksgiving too. I'm so
happy for you.



Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (aXucN)


Thank you, bluebell, you are such a good soul.

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (SRarZ)

222 Plus, straight boxers have a tendency in my experience to bunch and fold things which should not be bunched and folded.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (ycWCI)

223 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?

Never gonna wear out the package!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM (EYsyU)

224 Ever heard of old man b*lls?

Is this another Don Lemon pickup line?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:37 PM (ykYG2)

225 Thank you, bluebell, you are such a good soul.


I've seen her. Prolly looks good nekkid, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:37 PM (fuK7c)

226 224 Ever heard of old man b*lls?

Is this another Don Lemon pickup line?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:37 PM (ykYG2)

Smell the Glove is Lemon's favorite album.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (ycWCI)

227 Weasel, you still here? Out at the Pine Tree Farm of Death?

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (RqZyu)

228 Pug. Just drive through MT and Wy. Stopped in SD. Never made it out of the 50's until SD. And then just barely.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (V6X0L)

229 Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:30 PM (SRarZ)

Pre-fab home? That's what ours is. Was delivered August 21 and we moved in Sept 7th.
We still are doing things around here, but we are getting there.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (aA3+G)

230 > But how many of us are free balling?

Classic Tom Petty song.

(and now you'll sing it that way to yourself every time you hear the song, or maybe even out loud, depending on company and blood alcohol content... trust me on this)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (b1Typ)

231 I've never liked the feel of all that extra fabric down the legs with
classic boxers, plus the fabrics they make most regular boxers out of is
kind harsh, and generally sucks at absorbing sweat (and yeah, the
occasional accidental drip).


Two words: Hanes ComfortSoft Boxers.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (HaL55)

232 Drove not drive. One margarita and I'm drunk.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (V6X0L)

233 Plus, straight boxers have a tendency in my experience to bunch and fold things which should not be bunched and folded.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Ve haff also for spindle und....mutilate. Ja.

Posted by: German Crossbow Underwear Suicide Cult at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (QzkSJ)

234 "German crossbow suicide sex cult".

There's a German word for that:
Deutscher Armbrust-Selbstmord-Sex-Kult

Posted by: Chuck C at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (zCabI)

235
224 Ever heard of old man b*lls?

Is this another Don Lemon pickup line?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:37 PM (ykYG2)


What about me?

Posted by: Cooper Anderson at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (aA3+G)

236 And on that note, I'm going to bed. Stay well, 'rons. <3

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (SRarZ)

237 If you're having problems with boxer fit, you may not have tried really good ones. It's night and day. Not that I care one way or the other what anyone wears, but I've never had any of the problems I'm hearing.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (t+qrx)

238 All righty folks, I'm off - enjoy your undies discussion! Good night.

Posted by: bluebell at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (aXucN)

239 Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.

Try some serious international travel, say, from the US to China, Australia, India or South Africa, where the layovers don't include enough time to consider a hotel, but several hours between flights.

I have had some trips that took over 48 hours total travel time one way. Nice thing about Qatar airport, some of the lounges have showers.

Posted by: Wheat Supremacist
Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (lD3vL)

240 Underwear: wash first or wear out of the package?

I wash new sheets before putting them on the bed. They're softer.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:39 PM (GaOgf)

241 Pug. Just drive through MT and Wy. Stopped in SD. Never made it out of the 50's until SD. And then just barely.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (V6X0L)

Yup.

and yet we will see headlines: August 2019 Hottest Ever and Shit! Totes true, you Guys!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:40 PM (1b0OH)

242 And, BTW, you boxer lovers. Ever heard of old man b*lls? Not happening with tighty whiteys.
Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:33 PM (RqZyu)


Put one down each side and they won't hang as low.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 17, 2019 10:40 PM (1g7ch)

243 Night Dangergirl.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:40 PM (ycWCI)

244 I find this shock fat people might wear underwear two days in a row kind of amusing. What on Earth do you think people did for thousands of years before they had all the clothes options I have today? It's not like we're in the same Mondays two days in a row is going to give you ass cancer or something. Heck people used to live with animals in their house well we got two dogs and a cat I guess we still do.

On another subject it sounding like fall here I can hear the cicadas. Hope my late-planted beans and peas will produce I do have a cover so I think I might get away with getting something. I'm not going to try to correct all the audio mistakes here I'm too tired but you get the gist even if it's this stupid smartphone.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (ia/Ba)

245 This made me giggle...

And then the bus backs up over him to get off the road.

Posted by: t-bird at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (OiC69)

246 grass had been brown in central OH for many weeks

When the river catches fire, local ordinances prohibit watering the lawn.
Posted by: Miklos

----

Hey! That was the Cuyahoga, not the Olentangy or Scioto!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (Y4EXg)

247 "There, but for the grace of God, go I." Quite the photo essay.


Oh, man, the people at my Walmart dress like poor people, modest poor people.

Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (cNlpM)

248 Wait

When they ask if I've ever worn my underwear for two days, what if it wasn't my underwear? that doesn't count, does it?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (jp0Bv)

249 I wash new sheets before putting them on the bed. They're softer.
Posted by: ALH

But you have to launder the mattress first.

Posted by: Miklos, germophobe like Howard Hughes at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (QzkSJ)

250 Nice musical interqualudes, MisHum. Haven't heard either one of those tunes in a while.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 10:41 PM (HaL55)

251 We still are doing things around here, but we are getting there.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (aA3+G)

What's your current project, MisHum?

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:42 PM (GaOgf)

252 Sweet Jesus but why haven't I heard this song before?

Heart - Mistral Wind

https://youtu.be/UOfQaYPYXSo

Posted by: A Saucy Crab at August 17, 2019 10:42 PM (kBL6g)

253
Oh, man, the people at my Walmart dress like poor people, modest poor people.
Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator


No spats. No top hat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 10:43 PM (aKsyK)

254 Thank you, bluebell, you are such a good soul.
Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at August 17, 2019 10:36 PM


This, as well as being pulchritudinous and perspicacious

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2019 10:43 PM (DMUuz)

255 'Night bluebell.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 10:44 PM (HaL55)

256 Ingmar Bergman's Weebl and Bob

https://youtu.be/kDbxpmyZmWQ

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2019 10:44 PM (LxTcq)

257 Trying to do new things has a surprising level of difficulty. Especially, I should add, if one has been doing a lot of drinking.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 17, 2019 10:44 PM (l9m7l)

258 And, BTW, you boxer lovers. Ever heard of old man b*lls? Not happening with tighty whiteys.
Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:33 PM (RqZyu)


Put one down each side and they won't hang as low.
Posted by: Burnt Toast

Eureka!

The Ballssiere

Posted by: Miklos, million dollar idea guy at August 17, 2019 10:44 PM (QzkSJ)

259 The survey reminds me of a set of "posters" included in an old Mad Magazine, some of which included helpful hints:

"Today is the Day to Change Your Underwear"

Another one off of the top of my head:

"**IN CASE OF NUCLEAR ATTACK, EVACUATE**

your bowels"

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 17, 2019 10:44 PM (DTX3h)

260 > And, BTW, you boxer lovers. Ever heard of old man b*lls? Not happening with tighty whiteys.

As the meme puts it, if you are googling for pictures of grandfather clocks, do not, under any circumstances, leave out the "l".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 10:45 PM (b1Typ)

261
251 We still are doing things around here, but we are getting there.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:38 PM (aA3+G)

What's your current project, MisHum?
Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:42 PM (GaOgf)

Still working on landscaping.
Need to build lattice covering for under the porch.
And fishing, need to get fishing in.

Posted by: Cooper Anderson at August 17, 2019 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

262 In my yewt I frequented a couple of wilderness hot springs in Idaho. Clothing was optional although I can't recall ever seeing any. The most popular one was about 11/2 hrs from Missoula. Numerous University of Montana coeds frequented the place.

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 10:45 PM (K026y)

263 What on Earth do you think people did for thousands of years before they had all the clothes options I have today?


Died from a simple infected cut from being dirty.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:46 PM (DlU13)

264 Miklos, I'm afraid you're behind the times. It's called a jockus strapus.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:46 PM (RqZyu)

265 >>>What on Earth do you think people did for thousands of years before they had all the clothes options I have today?


Died from a simple infected cut from being dirty.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:46 PM (DlU13)


Ha!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (UILOn)

266 Walmart does not create the customer, nor the associate. Walmart accepts the customer and associate it is dealt. The Walmart stores in my AO are well-run and the customers are not what the stereotype suggests.

that said, there are Walmart stores I avoid, like Commerce City CO.

I just get tired of the reversed mindset that Walmart is what creates the fucked up mess of humanity that graces its aisles.

Full disclosure, I was once a Walmart associate, during the glorious Obama-nation. So I do have a god in the hunt.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (1b0OH)

267 I'll wear jeans for a prolonged period of time, but underwear gets changed at each shower. 

Or every two weeks, whichever comes first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Nothing sez I need to change my undies like 21 days in MOPP-2. That is the NASTIEST I've been. Fvck the muzzies that forced it on my unit and fvck GW1 for not going ALL. THE. WAY. THROUGH. BAGDAG.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (VcFUs)

268 dog

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (1b0OH)

269 208 Is there a correct answer?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 10:32 PM (aA3+G)

Not really. Just curious. I wear straight out of the plastic, I do not care what that episode of House said.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (ycWCI)

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It causes Lupus?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (Zbbka)

270 As the meme puts it, if you are googling for pictures of grandfather clocks, do not, under any circumstances, leave out the "l".

You're still get a couple of pendulums.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2019 10:48 PM (LxTcq)

271
Still working on landscaping.
Need to build lattice covering for under the porch.
And fishing, need to get fishing in.

My grandpa had fruit trees on his farm in Nebraska. I remember picking cherries and apples and my mom making pies and freezing them. It was always nice when she baked one during the winter.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:48 PM (GaOgf)

272 Miklos, I'm afraid you're behind the times. It's called a jockus strapus.
Posted by: RI Red

Offensive. Triggering. Toxically masculine.

Get with the times, h8r

Posted by: Miklos, OK, but apparently half of guys are transitioning to hear the media tell it at August 17, 2019 10:49 PM (QzkSJ)

273 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (1b0OH)

I really like WalMart but the level of worker they have at some of their stores has plummeted over the past few years. Just awful. People with no concept of retail business. No concept of anything, to be honest.

The WalMarts used to be run pretty well but most of them around me are going downhill fast. There are some WalMarts that I avoid - not because of the customers but because of the asshole retards they have manning the stores, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:50 PM (UILOn)

274 As late as 100 years ago people died from gum disease.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:50 PM (GaOgf)

275 So I do have a god in the hunt.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:47 PM (1b0OH)

I approve this phrase. It is most metal.

Posted by: Robert at August 17, 2019 10:50 PM (kBL6g)

276 > I just get tired of the reversed mindset that Walmart is what creates the fucked up mess of humanity that graces its aisles.


A lot of the crap you hear about Walmart is due to the sheer size of the company. There's a phrase, "Walmart scale". If there are million to one odds against some weird-assed, totally fucked up customer interaction occurring, that thing will happen an average of *ten times a day* at some Walmart somewhere.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 10:51 PM (b1Typ)

277 Bif, if GB had rolled up the Highway of Death to Baghdad, we wouldn't have wasted a whole bunch of Americans the next time around.
It also would have shown that we actually know how to and want to win wars.
Which hasn't been the case since Korea.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:51 PM (RqZyu)

278 Poll conducted in the USA:
Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 45% admitted they had worn the same pair of undies for two or more days, with 13% saying they had worn the same pair for a week or more, Tommy John said.

Poll conducted in Venezuela:
Out of 1,000 people responding to an informal poll conducted by the underwear maker, 100% admitted they had eaten all their underwear and 89% said they were working on their jeans.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 17, 2019 10:51 PM (QMwOT)

279 can't really blame walmart for that shit. might as well blame gm or ford for transporting those lazy fucks there. scumbags gotta scum. convenience stores are worse. swamp mommas everywhere.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 17, 2019 10:52 PM (KP5rU)

280 In my yewt I frequented a couple of wilderness hot springs in Idaho. Clothing was optional although I can't recall ever seeing any. The most popular one was about 11/2 hrs from Missoula.


We had a family vacation in Montana, flew in and out of Oregon. On the way back I looked at a map. There was a straight line that went to Eugene, and half an inch under it there was another parallel line going all the way across.

Lolo Hot Springs was on the lower line. I've never been to a natural hot spring and also Lolo was featured in A River Runs Through It, so I asked the wife if we could go the half inch out of our way and she said sure.

Well, when we got to the first straight line there was a sign that said Lolo 120 miles. Those westerners sure have an odd idea of scale. We didn't have 240 miles in the time budget.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:52 PM (fuK7c)

281
Not really. Just curious. I wear straight out of the plastic, I do not care what that episode of House said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 10:34 PM (ycWCI)


I don't watch House but what do you save by not throwing clothes you buy into the hamper, first? Is that one washing going to make any difference to the life of the clothes?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 10:52 PM (UILOn)

282 I approve this phrase. It is most metal.
Posted by: Robert at August 17, 2019 10:50 PM (kBL6g)

Isahn. I think Isahn should do this one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:52 PM (1b0OH)

283 The vast majority of those Walmart pics are photoshopped.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 17, 2019 10:52 PM (QMwOT)

284 Way too many ugly bodies on clothing optional beaches. I got to the point I wished I had bathrobes to hand out. I did like the people who brought their own privacy screen.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 10:52 PM (x7OgJ)

285 "a god in the hunt"

You did not want to mess with Artemis.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:53 PM (ykYG2)

286 There is a spot off I-70 in Glenwood Springs that is an overflow to the Colorado River. It's called the hippy dips. There are several rock lined pools with water overflow from the hot springs before it hits the river. It's a little hike down the hill. Harder if your drunk and it's muddy. A wonderful peaceful place.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:53 PM (BLFnH)

287 As late as 100 years ago people died from gum disease.
Posted by: ALH

Bad cases of Wrigley's affected certain baseball fans more recently than that.

Posted by: Miklos, up in the chaep seats at August 17, 2019 10:53 PM (QzkSJ)

288 A wonderful peaceful place.
Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:53 PM (BLFnH)

Right up until you're surrounded by naked hippies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:54 PM (1b0OH)

289 > I wear straight out of the plastic, I do not care what that episode of House said.

I haven't seen that episode either.

I just imagine a Chinese laborer scratching her itchy hooha right before putting the final crotch seam into my new undies.

Yeah, that shit goes in the washer before I wear it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 10:55 PM (b1Typ)

290 what do you save by not throwing clothes you buy into the hamper, first?


You buy new clothes to avoid having to wash the old ones. That's the point.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:55 PM (fuK7c)

291 can't really blame walmart for that shit. might as well blame gm or ford for transporting those lazy fucks there. scumbags gotta scum. convenience stores are worse. swamp mommas everywhere.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

The scooters should give electric shocks every 5 minutes. With increasing intensity.

Posted by: Miklos, pedestrian at August 17, 2019 10:55 PM (QzkSJ)

292 Clothes from the store smell like a textile so I wash them right away. I doubt many of them have poop-particles or whatever House said.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2019 10:55 PM (LxTcq)

293 Okay...I admit it...I ran into the back of a car once while cycling.
My cleat came out of the pedal and I was looking down at it to fix it, and...bang!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 17, 2019 10:56 PM (wYseH)

294 Boxers are Indian underwear......always sneaking up on you.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2019 10:56 PM (Y+IGD)

295 291; ejection seats would be hilarious.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 17, 2019 10:56 PM (KP5rU)

296 > Boxers are Indian underwear......always sneaking up on you.

Nah, they're Chinese. Always rebelling.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 10:57 PM (b1Typ)

297 I just imagine a Chinese laborer scratching her itchy hooha right before putting the final crotch seam into my new undies.

Yeah, that shit goes in the washer before I wear it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

The Horde cries out!

Uncle Palp the Launderer, heed our need!

Posted by: Miklos from GECSPLAN at August 17, 2019 10:57 PM (QzkSJ)

298 Right up until you're surrounded by naked hippies.

Right, afternoon is best.

Guess I just lucked out the couple times I was there.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 10:57 PM (BLFnH)

299 A lot of the crap you hear about Walmart is due to the sheer size of the company. There's a phrase, "Walmart scale".



Your company might be considering ordering one or two semi loads.

Wal Mart is deciding if they need 20 or 30 railcars for the east coast alone.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 10:58 PM (DlU13)

300 There is a spot off I-70 in Glenwood Springs that is an overflow to the Colorado River. It's called the hippy dips.

Tempted to give this a try tomorrow or next weekend . . .

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 10:58 PM (ykYG2)

301 295 291; ejection seats would be hilarious.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 17, 2019 10:56 PM (KP5rU)

The people I see using those scooters are usually morbidly obese. That would have to be a jet powered ejection seat.

Posted by: ALH at August 17, 2019 10:58 PM (GaOgf)

302 Otay, butt wheats, it's time to chuck my undies in the hamper and get into nice fresh sheets.
With any luck, I'll talktype to you in the am. Maybe Book Threadish.
Hasta Lumbago!

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2019 10:58 PM (RqZyu)

303 @277
Yeah, I k ow. But that still (phrasing) chaps my ass that our elite betters didn't wanna actually win. The vast majority of my active duty was during the cold war. My peers and I truly wanted the Soviets to say " one, two, three go" just so we could nuke that a$$ and get it over with.

To this day I still want to go to the mat, chew on a ear and just choke the snot out of a bully.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 17, 2019 10:59 PM (VcFUs)

304 Right up until you're surrounded by naked hippies.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 10:54 PM (1b0OH)


And that's when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the other naked hippies you didn't even know were there.

Posted by: Dr. Alan Grant at August 17, 2019 10:59 PM (t+qrx)

305 Wal Mart is deciding if they need 20 or 30 railcars for the east coast alone.
Posted by: rickb223

Yep. Also just learned the "Wal" is short for walrus

Posted by: Miklos from observation at August 17, 2019 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)

306 Yep. Also just learned the "Wal" is short for walrus
Posted by: Miklos from observation at August 17, 2019 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)


Narwhalmart.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 11:00 PM (t+qrx)

307 bth, downtown, park at a hotel and walk down to the middle of the exit and hop over the guard rail.

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 11:01 PM (BLFnH)

308 It's a little hike down the hill. Harder if your drunk and it's muddy. A wonderful peaceful place.
Posted by: Infidel

The trick is to drink and be merry after you get in the hot springs. I can still remember getting almost lobster and then jumping into the crick next to it which was about 45 °

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 11:01 PM (K026y)

309 Anyone here ever try wearing Mormon underwear?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:01 PM (b1Typ)

310 I've just recently figured out what's up with The Younger Zettaispawn...


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2kln6hx


That tartlet in the pic at the link looks very much like my dear daughter!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 11:02 PM (7WaWV)

311
And that's when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the other naked hippies you didn't even know were there.
Posted by: Dr. Alan Grant at August 17, 2019 10:59 PM (t+qrx)

*sobbing in the ER later*

So much skin, and saggy sacks, and...and...all that hugging!

*sob*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at August 17, 2019 11:02 PM (1b0OH)

312 The trick is to drink and be merry after you get in the hot springs. I can still remember getting almost lobster and then jumping into the crick next to it which was about 45
Posted by: Sock Monkey's



Sounds like Hot Springs, AR.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2019 11:02 PM (DlU13)

313 Narwhalmart.
Posted by: hogmartin

I asked the greeter where I could find flensing knives once.

Looked at me real, real funny.

Posted by: Miklos , with am easier solution for Capt. Ahab at August 17, 2019 11:02 PM (QzkSJ)

314 @309
We talking rough spun commando here?

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 17, 2019 11:02 PM (VcFUs)

315 260 Rodrigo

I haven't laughed that hard that's pretty effing funny.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at August 17, 2019 11:03 PM (ia/Ba)

316 We have an El Walomarto at the opposite end of town and the only real complaint is the parking lot always has trash in it. I did see a dependapotomus with a Denver broncos logo tattoed across her back from shoulder to ass crack.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 17, 2019 11:03 PM (BrRAn)

317 Thirst!

and i'm still in the middle of ruining dinner.

someone, no names, got home WAYYYYY late from the hairdresser.

i hope he had a good time.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 17, 2019 11:03 PM (SEclx)

318 The people I see using those scooters are usually morbidly obese.

"See what they're buying? Don't buy that."

Posted by: Over In The Grocery Section at August 17, 2019 11:04 PM (C78No)

319 > The people I see using those scooters are usually morbidly obese.

I've got an elderly relative who really needs those. She's had a stroke. She's still mentally fine, can walk for short distances, but finds it hard to navigate a box store while carrying purchases.

Generally the fatties have all the carts in use, so she has to do the best she can with a wire basket thingie she has that hooks on to her walker.

So, yeah, sore subject there.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:04 PM (b1Typ)

320 JackStraw is making and selling hamburgers from his van on the beach? Dude has a vision.

Posted by: ben shapiru at August 17, 2019 11:04 PM (QwmrN)

321 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 17, 2019 10:56 PM (wYseH)

Now that I know you are ok.

LOL

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:04 PM (aA3+G)

322 The guy in the red dress at Walmart is George Carlin.

Posted by: Pantsless Uncle Budklos at August 17, 2019 09:48 PM (QzkSJ)

I wonder if some of those people appeared as they did as the result of losing a sports bet?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:05 PM (a72/q)

323
Right up until you're surrounded by naked hippies.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish

My experiences were in the 70's so there were a few left over hippies. Can't really remember. The naked coeds...those I remember

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 11:05 PM (K026y)

324 Mormon underwear...

One doesn't wear 'magic underwear', magic underwear wears YOU!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 11:05 PM (7WaWV)

325 I wash everything before it gets used: clothing, towels, curtains, etc. I'm more worried about dust and little bugs.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 11:05 PM (x7OgJ)

326 There was a link in the sidebar a week or so back about a writing competition with a deadline at the end of August.

Does anyone remember what that was?

My eyes popped open last night at 2 am with a story idea that I might want to try to hammer out and submit if I can figure out that link.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 17, 2019 11:06 PM (bQngX)

327 That tartlet in the pic at the link looks very much like my dear daughter!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

The girl is named Caprese.

Her gramma Mozzarella and grandad Pomidoro must have come up with that.

Posted by: Miklos, capisco, si at August 17, 2019 11:06 PM (QzkSJ)

328 What on Earth do you think people did for thousands of years before they had all the clothes options I have today?

Who was that ascetic in Greece who wore the bed sheet he slept in? He was a month or two ago.

Posted by: t-bird at August 17, 2019 11:07 PM (nIvDu)

329 Diogenes was the most famous hobo philosopher among the Greeks.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 11:08 PM (ykYG2)

330 We have an Insignia. It's good and not really a smart tv. I use a Roku with it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2019 11:08 PM (Lqy/e)

331 326 There was a link in the sidebar a week or so back about a writing competition with a deadline at the end of August.

Does anyone remember what that was?

My eyes popped open last night at 2 am with a story idea that I might want to try to hammer out and submit if I can figure out that link.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 17, 2019 11:06 PM (bQngX)

--------------------------------

Here ya go

https://tinyurl.com/y3j4be8u

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 11:08 PM (Zbbka)

332 someone, no names, got home WAYYYYY late from the hairdresser.

i hope he had a good time.
Posted by: redc1c4

I'm sure the blue looks PERFECT

Posted by: Miklos, oh Lawd at August 17, 2019 11:09 PM (QzkSJ)

333 > Diogenes was the most famous hobo philosopher among the Greeks.

He didn't get many chicks, though.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:10 PM (b1Typ)

334 I went to a nude beach in Barbados. 80/20 gorgeous humans to circus freaks. It was quite something really...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 17, 2019 11:10 PM (flINI)

335 Her gramma Mozzarella and grandad Pomidoro must have come up with that.


Her older brother is named Basilico.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:10 PM (fuK7c)

336 Anyone here ever try wearing Mormon underwear?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:01 PM (b1Typ)


I wore Jewish underwear when I was a kid (went to orthodox school for a couple of years). Tsit-tsit - just an undershirt .... but it counts.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 17, 2019 11:10 PM (UILOn)

337 Diogenes was the most famous hobo philosopher among the Greeks.

Oh, that's right. The lamp.

Posted by: t-bird at August 17, 2019 11:11 PM (NAs56)

338 Diogenes was the most famous hobo philosopher among the Greeks.

He didn't get many chicks, though.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

They had rivers, but hadn't invented vans yet.

Posted by: Miklos, who actually lives down by the river at August 17, 2019 11:11 PM (QzkSJ)

339 > The girl is named Caprese.


A Caprese is a person who's half Japanese, half capybara.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:12 PM (b1Typ)

340 334 I went to a nude beach in Barbados. 80/20 gorgeous humans to circus freaks. It was quite something really...
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 17, 2019 11:10 PM (flINI)

-------------------------------------

Only four other people on the beach, huh?




I keed, I keed....

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (Zbbka)

341 can't blame walmart for how the vagrants dress when they show up in their stores. dress codes are racist or some shit. people are lazy and fucked up today. not walmart's fault. society is fucked.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

342 Diogenes was the most famous hobo philosopher among the Greeks.

Oh, that's right. The lamp.
Posted by: t-bird

Yep. The blondes couldn't figure out how to turn if off.

Posted by: Miklos, also no car doors to close at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (QzkSJ)

343 This underwear you speak of- how do you wipe your asses with left hand with underwear on? You are pigs.

Posted by: Achmed at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (f6iMo)

344 Do you know when it's time to change your underwear? When you throw them against the wall and they stick.

Posted by: CMU VET at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (C+wjz)

345 263 Rick

Well sure they did. But that's not likely doodle we're in the same Mondays two days in a row or something. I've heard Americans are the most obsessed about hygiene followed by the Dutch. Not sure if that's true. But a lot of people still live with a lot of Filth. And apparently the Dems are happy to let them come into our country yay.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (ia/Ba)

346 Waylon Jennings is on PBS.


I've Always Been Crazy

Posted by: Sock Monkey's ...recycled primate at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (K026y)

347 I was in Barbados but I didn't know there was a nekkid beach there. Officially there is no such thing on the island :
barbados.org/barbados-beaches-nude-bathing.htm

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 11:13 PM (ykYG2)

348 Last I heard, the Wilson sisters had split the blanket; Ann was touring solo last year or so.

I did get to see Heart a couple of times, the last at the Biloxi Hard Rock circa 2010 or thereabouts.

Great show, though Ann ate the stage afterwards. She was ginormous.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 17, 2019 11:14 PM (Z4rgH)

349 Fun fact. British Army infantry at the battle of Waterloo wore no underwear . The long tails of the linen shirt they wore under their jacket sufficed.
.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 17, 2019 11:14 PM (12qmF)

350 "Rio Bravo" is highly recommended, by the way.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 17, 2019 11:14 PM (l9m7l)

351 lol, Jamaica has "Booby Cay".

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 11:15 PM (ykYG2)

352 When in Barbados, do as the Bar Babes do

Posted by: Miklos, quite tolerant of such things when allowed at August 17, 2019 11:15 PM (QzkSJ)

353 Fun fact. British Army infantry at the battle of Waterloo wore no underwear . The long tails of the linen shirt they wore under their jacket sufficed.
.
Posted by: NZFrank

So. "The Thin Red Line" had nothing to do with thongs.

Posted by: Miklos, who thought it was Gen. Camembert who said "Merde!" at August 17, 2019 11:17 PM (QzkSJ)

354 Hmm, this is interesting. I have FF and highlighted the Heart tune Mistral Wind upthread, opened in a Private Window and lo and behold, what was one of the suggestions on the YooToob page?


Sylvan Song/ Dream Of The Archer which was in the thread way before the Heart song link. I thought by using a PW, Goolag couldn't see what we were commenting on. I see I'm mistooken. There's no way to hide from them, looks like.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 11:18 PM (HaL55)

355 290 You buy new clothes to avoid having to wash the old ones. That's the point.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 10:55 PM (fuK7c)


I did that to some degree back when I was dependent upon my apartment complex's coin-op laundry and nearly every damned machine was left unattended with soggy clothes within. So, I built up quite a large stash of skivvies that I still rotate through. Been years since I bought new ones.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 17, 2019 11:18 PM (DTX3h)

356 > Tsit-tsit - just an undershirt .... but it counts.

That's the garment that looks sorta like a bib, with tassels on it, right?

From what I understand, the Mormon stuff looks like long underwear, with special symbols embroidered on it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:18 PM (b1Typ)

357
I jumped to the bottom, so maybe answered already, but that car that fell off the rack- did it crush two people?
Posted by: Farmer Bob

======

That's what it looked like to me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 17, 2019 11:18 PM (13CQC)

358 When in Barbados, do as the Bar Babes do

Posted by: Miklos, quite tolerant of such things when allowed at August 17, 2019 11:15



IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE 'BARBADOS' MEANS 'BEARDED ONES'!

Posted by: ZETTAI ROSHIA-NO ROETHLISBERGER at August 17, 2019 11:19 PM (7WaWV)

359 > So. "The Thin Red Line" had nothing to do with thongs.

No, they were excused from duty when having their periods.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:19 PM (b1Typ)

360 Cape May used to have Higbee's Beach where bathers could let it all hang out. It was really cool when the passengers on the Lewes ferry got to see the gay guys with their dongs a-flopping cruising the beach. That was special.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 11:20 PM (x7OgJ)

361 Anyway, Barbados is Tory-tier conservative as the Caribbean goes. The Crown had a tight rein on that island for hundreds of years on account of (1) strategic location (2) size (166 sq mi). It ain't Jamaica.

If you're looking for decadent fun in the Caribbean, go French like Martinique. Maybe Jamaica but you'll want to get gangsta stabbing insurance first

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 11:20 PM (ykYG2)

362 > They had rivers, but hadn't invented vans yet.

If Diogenes lived in the present day, he'd be crashing on someone's couch and smoking a lot of weed.

He was basically the Kato Kaelin of his time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:21 PM (b1Typ)

363 Maybe it was Sint Martin...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 17, 2019 11:22 PM (flINI)

364 Posted by: GnuBreed at August 17, 2019 11:14 PM (Z4rgH)


They reunited for a tour this summer

Price of tickets incredibly expensive
Mrs. MH is a big fan and said no to the show in St. Paul

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:23 PM (aA3+G)

365 I had a proto-libertarian insight on a nude beach. Nantucket, between Surfside and Miacomet.

There were naked people up and down the beach but at distances, from 200 yards you can't tell whether a young skinny person is a boy or a girl. I was smoking a joint. I was with the naked girl that I was going to marry. I had salt drying on my skin from having swum in the ocean.

And I thought this is the best I've ever felt and I'm not hurting anyone. Society may frown on the nudity and the ganja, but I'm just sitting here bothering no one and it's spectacular.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:23 PM (fuK7c)

366 Didja marry her?

Posted by: Infidel at August 17, 2019 11:24 PM (BLFnH)

367 Concert tickets are crazy expensive. I wanted to see ELO when they were touring last year but tix in the nosebleeds were $200. Yikes!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 17, 2019 11:25 PM (a4qVe)

368 I was with the naked girl that I was going to marry.




" I was gonna marry her, but I got high..."

Posted by: Miklos, recalling a classic hit from the Top 40 at August 17, 2019 11:25 PM (QzkSJ)

369 /sockoff

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 11:26 PM (7WaWV)

370 Hey everybody.

Last night I turned on a local news opinion roundtable show and Gloria Allred was on it, along with Antonio Villaraigosa and somebody from the Daily Caller. Here's a transcript I made of Gloria's comments:

"Blah blah I support women blah blah rape culture blah blah penis privilege blah blah can't wait to vote for Warren blah blah orange man bad blah blah the ERA should have passed in the 1970s blah blah I love abortion!!"

(I was able to transcribe all this while having her on mute the entire time.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:26 PM (L2ZTs)

371 Didja marry her?


I did. And she whelped two masculine children.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:27 PM (fuK7c)

372 Apparently they arrested an antifa, Tom Nichols impersonator, in Portland wearing a "BetaCuck4Life" t-shirt.

I think I should trademark the phrase and make a fortune selling them to the Never Trumpets.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (9BmSv)

373
When in Barbados, do as the Bar Babes do
Posted by: Miklos

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE 'BARBADOS' MEANS 'BEARDED ONES'!
Posted by: ZETTAI ROSHIA-NO ROETHLISBERGER


What does Adrienne Barbeau mean?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (aKsyK)

374 if you have privacy you can tan au naturel in your own back yard. You don't need to inflict your skin suit on the world at large.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (x7OgJ)

375 Poco has a great song called Barbados.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuL5teIoPc

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:29 PM (L2ZTs)

376 What does Adrienne Barbeau mean?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (aKsyK)

Ginormous boobehs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:29 PM (a72/q)

377 84 "Take away the bird baths
And dirty birds will soon be ev'rywhere
Take away their feathers and
The birds will walk around in underwear....."
****
That's the Tennessee bird walk!

Posted by: Cosda at August 17, 2019 11:29 PM (ajm49)

378 I did. And she whelped two masculine children.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:27 PM (fuK7c)


The past tense of "whelp" should be "wholp".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 17, 2019 11:29 PM (t+qrx)

379 Speaking of word meanings, doesn't the word "lieutenant" actually literally mean "placeholder"?

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:30 PM (L2ZTs)

380 > Speaking of word meanings, doesn't the word "lieutenant" actually literally mean "placeholder"?

Yes, the tenant of a position in lieu of someone else.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:30 PM (b1Typ)

381 (I was able to transcribe all this while having her on mute the entire time.)

Yeah, it's not like we don't already know what a prog's gonna say anyway. SOS.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 11:31 PM (HaL55)

382 I think "barbeau" is the French for 'over-sized, pendulous, grossly asymmetrical tits'...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 17, 2019 11:31 PM (7WaWV)

383 Speaking of word meanings, doesn't the word "lieutenant" actually literally mean "placeholder"?

Huh.

*looks at word*

Yes, it does. That never occurred to me.

Huh.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:31 PM (fuK7c)

384 > Ginormous boobehs.

I was envious of Swamp Thing, back in the day.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:31 PM (b1Typ)

385 370. good work by you steve

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 11:32 PM (x7OgJ)

386 Apparently they arrested an antifa, Tom Nichols impersonator, in Portland wearing a "BetaCuck4Life" t-shirt.

I think I should trademark the phrase and make a fortune selling them to the Never Trumpets.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (9BmSv)

They actually arrested an Antifa? Bad cop, no doughnut.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:32 PM (a72/q)

387

Heather Locklear was in The Return of Swamp Thing

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 11:33 PM (aKsyK)

388 Criticized for masturbating in public, Diogenes replied "If only it were as easy to banish hunger by rubbing my belly."

Posted by: Philosophy You Can Use at August 17, 2019 11:34 PM (b1Typ)

389
Last night I turned on a local news opinion roundtable show and Gloria Allred was on it, along with Antonio Villaraigosa and somebody from the Daily Caller. Here's a transcript I made of Gloria's comments:

Posted by: qdpsteve

======

Antonio Villaraigosa? That dorito is still around? Once upon a time he was going to be the California governor...and then the US president! The last I remember of him he was botching a vote at a Democratic convention or something. What did he have to say?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 17, 2019 11:35 PM (13CQC)

390 I saw Heart at the Ga. Tech stadium ~1980. Sad that Ann let herself go since then.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 17, 2019 11:35 PM (YPJrZ)

391 They reunited for a tour this summer

Price of tickets incredibly expensive
Mrs. MH is a big fan and said no to the show in St. Paul

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:23 PM (aA3+G)


It's the lure of easy money, it's got a very strong appeal...

Good for them though.

if you have privacy you can tan au naturel in your own back yard. You don't need to inflict your skin suit on the world at large.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (x7OgJ)


City dwellers don't have that choice in general.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 17, 2019 11:37 PM (Z4rgH)

392 Blonde, here's my transcript of Antonio's remarks:

"Blah blah I love Gloria blah blah when I was mayor there was no crime in LA blah blah orange man bad blah blah I'll vote for anything with a D after its name blah blah California will smash Trump in the courts blah blah I love Newsome blah blah"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:37 PM (L2ZTs)

393 > Heather Locklear was in The Return of Swamp Thing

Those Swamp Things get all the hot babes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:38 PM (b1Typ)

394 Antonio also said "blah blah no human is illegal blah blah California belongs to Mexico blah blah"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:38 PM (L2ZTs)

395 Is Trump going to classify antifa as a terrorist organization?

Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator at August 17, 2019 11:39 PM (cNlpM)

396 393 > Heather Locklear was in The Return of Swamp Thing

Those Swamp Things get all the hot babes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:38 PM (b1Typ)

It's the nanotechnology.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:39 PM (ycWCI)

397 City dwellers don't have that choice in general.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 17, 2019 11:37 PM (Z4rgH)

No place private to air the privates.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:39 PM (a72/q)

398 Heart is good but they aren't Rolling Stone priced ticket good

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:40 PM (aA3+G)

399 Top Ten sweep! Charles the Simple I salute you

Posted by: NeoOtter at August 17, 2019 11:40 PM (0x00j)

400 kallisto, thanks

I may have a future in democrat transcribing if I can avoid punching out the TV.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:42 PM (L2ZTs)

401 Also at HotAir, story that Bill Maher is still saying, yes a recession would be worth it to get rid of PDT.

Bill doesn't wanna know what *I* think would be worth it to get him to shut his child molesting porkhole forever.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:43 PM (L2ZTs)

402

When shopping at the mall with my son, we would sometimes visit the kiten gadget places and when asked if he could be helped, he would tell them that he was looking for a "cheese sraightener" for a present for his Mom.

Mostly blank looks and often a quited yet animated discussion with an equally baffled manager. It's really good practice for keeping a straight face.

I thought he was just really funny and loved Monty Python.

I realized later he was just practicing his lying skills.

Posted by: pawn at August 17, 2019 11:43 PM (PveK5)

403 Heart is good but they aren't Rolling Stone priced ticket good
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
-------

Honestly, I wouldn't have gone to see them, disliking concerts as I do, but the femme du jour wanted to, so...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 17, 2019 11:45 PM (YPJrZ)

404 Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:43 PM (L2ZTs)


Careful there Scooter

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:45 PM (aA3+G)

405 Cheese straighteners? Son, they are over in Hardware next to the lumber stretchers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:45 PM (a72/q)

406 391. rooftop decks. But in the city there's always some knucklehead with a telescope two highrises over. And then there's the chopper pilot who circles back to get an eyeful. Yes privacy in the city is a challenge. I'm in the burbs and have no privacy. I don't sunbathe anymore anyway.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2019 11:45 PM (x7OgJ)

407 For all us old geezers, here's a great graphic I found at FB earlier today:

"Back In My Day": Walking To School

https://tinyurl.com/y6toheyu

The only things the artist forgot are that (a) it was uphill both ways, and (b) the falling pianos.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:45 PM (L2ZTs)

408 Ok, picked up the Tostitos 'Cantina Style' tortilla chips. Tentative thumbs up. They are crisp and have that nice thin thing going for them.

How many people in Lexington Kentucky (or US at large) have ever been to a Cantina to know what their tortilla chips are like?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:46 PM (ycWCI)

409 MisHum, gotcha

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:46 PM (L2ZTs)

410 I have to assume Tommy John did their survey in a homeless encampment. Unless you go in for really pricey underwear, how often are you in a situation where you don't have enough on hand to get you through to the next time you can do laundry? There was one occasion where travel plans were really screwed up and I was far from home with just the clothes on my back for nearly three days. I found the closest Walmart/Target (I forget which) and bought a six-pack each of briefs and socks, along with a cheap shirt and a pair of shorts. It was an annoying expense on top of everything else but it felt immensely better to be able to change clothes.


Posted by: Epobirs at August 17, 2019 11:47 PM (AJKgl)

411 Toothpick-shooting Tiny Crossbow

http://bit.ly/2YWEBiL

Need I say more?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:47 PM (fuK7c)

412 I think Nancy Wilson is the most underrated guitarist in rock.

And I always had a crush on Ann Wilson, even after she started packing on the weight.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 17, 2019 11:48 PM (PHotS)

413 Aetius, there was a comedian (forget his name, but he was on Whose Line Is It Anyway?) who once did a bit about getting Mexican food in London.

"Would you like an en-chee-lahh-dahh?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:48 PM (L2ZTs)

414 Heart is good but they aren't Rolling Stone priced ticket good

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:40 PM (aA3+G)


When they appeared at the Beau Rivage Biloxi around 2012, the cheap seats were $60. I passed.

Most I ever paid for tix was $50 to see Van Halen with Sammy; I got a nosebleed.

I liked it better when the live events were mostly run at a loss to promote their albums, which I actually did buy.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 17, 2019 11:48 PM (Z4rgH)

415 How many people in Lexington Kentucky (or US at large) have ever been to a Cantina to know what their tortilla chips are like?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I was in one when a wild young cowboy came in, wild as the West Texas wind.....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2019 11:48 PM (Y+IGD)

416 How many people in Lexington Kentucky (or US at large) have ever been to a Cantina to know what their tortilla chips are like?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:46 PM (ycWCI)

If I am going to a den of scum and villainy, the last thing on my mind would be tortilla chips.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:49 PM (a72/q)

417 Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:46 PM (L2ZTs)

Thanks Bud

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 17, 2019 11:49 PM (aA3+G)

418 I was in one when a wild young cowboy came in, wild as the West Texas wind.....
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2019 11:48 PM (Y+IGD)

Was he dancing and daring, a drink he was sharing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:50 PM (ycWCI)

419 How many people in Lexington Kentucky (or US at large) have ever been to a Cantina to know what their tortilla chips are like?


Was it me that shot him down in the cantina
Was it my hand that held the gun?
Come, let us fly, my Magdalena
The dogs are barking and what's done is done.

Posted by: Romance in Durango at August 17, 2019 11:50 PM (fuK7c)

420 Also, are cantinas known for their ultra thin tortilla chips?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:50 PM (ycWCI)

421 I remember once hearing years ago, cantinas are where you go to hear the Mexican waitresses whine. "Can't Tina do it? Can't Tina do that?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:51 PM (L2ZTs)

422 I was in one when a wild young cowboy came in, wild as the West Texas wind.....
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2019 11:48 PM (Y+IGD)

Was he dancing and daring, a drink he was sharing?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Yep, that wicked Felina.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2019 11:51 PM (Y+IGD)

423 Yep, that wicked Felina.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2019 11:51 PM (Y+IGD)

What a bitch.

Did you challenge his right for the 'love' of this 'maiden'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:53 PM (ycWCI)

424 I think after Marty got killed, Felina later found work in a little cafe just the other side of the border, moaning "come a little bit closer, you're my kind of man" to whomever would dance with her... :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVkkE9AaCs

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:53 PM (L2ZTs)

425 Toothpick-shooting Tiny Crossbow

http://bit.ly/2YWEBiL

Need I say more?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 17, 2019 11:47 PM (fuK7c)

Hmmm. In the picture, the center screw, that holds the bow assembly to the stock, is not all the way in. And the four little flathead screws that hold the bow leaves (?) to the center section are not fully countersunk. As far as I can see, there is no advantage to be gained by countersinking those little screws, and round-head screws without countersunk holes would make for a stronger assembly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2019 11:55 PM (a72/q)

426 That car falling off the lift on those guys is going to give me nightmares. I had one fall on me years ago. I still won't get under a car to this day.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2019 11:56 PM (9Om/r)

427 Cheapest underwear at Tommy John is $25.00.
Dollar store has quality, stretchy underwear for $1.25.
Paid $12.00 for some at Amacommie.
The Dollar Store undies are more comfortable.

One more thing. Tommy John doesen't do waist size.
It's 4, 6, 10, 14, 16, etc. Really? I don't think so.

Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator at August 17, 2019 11:56 PM (cNlpM)

428 I liked it better when the live events were mostly run at a loss to promote their albums, which I actually did buy.

I have a concert ticket around here somewhere for the Stories of Louie, Louie, Louie fame.


$3.00. Which was a bit overpriced. There was a drought of concerts in Huntspatch that year and we were bored and would listen to anything as long as it was loud.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 17, 2019 11:57 PM (HaL55)

429 Felina also had a sister named Lola who worked at the copacabana in Miami...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:57 PM (L2ZTs)

430 Here ya go

https://tinyurl.com/y3j4be8u

Posted by: No One of Consequence



Thank you very much.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 17, 2019 11:58 PM (bQngX)

431 A Caprese is a person who's half Japanese, half capybara.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2019 11:12 PM (b1Typ)


A Caprese is a mixed drink that is garnished with capers. It tastes like goats.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2019 11:58 PM (q2o38)

432 Wasn't there a song about a trannie named Lola, as well?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 17, 2019 11:58 PM (ycWCI)

433 And I always had a crush on Ann Wilson, even after she started packing on the weight.
Posted by: Dave in Fla


In Modern America, Ann Wilson crushes you!!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 17, 2019 11:58 PM (S6Pax)

434 there was a comedian (forget his name, but he was on Whose Line Is It Anyway?) who once did a bit about getting Mexican food in London.
"Would you like an en-chee-lahh-dahh?"


I too fondly remember hearing about djallappennoes in England. And fadjittas.

It's even more amusing when one considers that Spain is about as far from England as Mexico (or at least the US Southwest) is from much of the US. And when one considers the horde of Brits who "holiday" on Spanish beaches.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 17, 2019 11:58 PM (ykYG2)

435 Aetius, that was Felina and Lola's uncle. The family doesn't talk about him...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 17, 2019 11:59 PM (L2ZTs)

436 Wasn't there a song about a trannie named Lola, as well?


Yah

Posted by: The Kinks at August 18, 2019 12:00 AM (fuK7c)

437 I liked it better when the live events were mostly run at a loss to promote their albums, which I actually did buy.
Posted by: GnuBreed


With the way that music is marketed digitally, album/record/CD sales are now abysmal. So touring artists really need to make money on tour now.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 18, 2019 12:00 AM (S6Pax)

438 That car falling off the lift on those guys is going to give me nightmares. I had one fall on me years ago. I still won't get under a car to this day.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2019 11:56 PM (9Om/r)

I have a 4-post drive-on lift in my shop here. First thing I do, after raising a vehicle, is walk around and verify that all 4 pawls have securely latched in the "ladders". Then I give the whole thing a shake. If it seems solid, I am good to go.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 12:00 AM (a72/q)

439 I was at the LBG airport Monday. Har Karishnas? (sp) were ahead of me in the security line, it was weird, haven't seen them since the 70's. Except they were wearing gold and brown. It was like having flashbacks. Or maybe it was this horrible chest cold.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:01 AM (BLFnH)

440 boulder, yup.
I wonder if the Brits think Mexicans also speak with a lisp...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:01 AM (L2ZTs)

441 436 Wasn't there a song about a trannie named Lola, as well?


Yah
Posted by: The Kinks at August 18, 2019 12:00 AM (fuK7c)

I remember some vague reference to Cherry Cola, I am guessing because it rhymed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:01 AM (ycWCI)

442 My youngest left for a very hot and sandy place this morning.

Pride and worry make for uneasy companions within me.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 18, 2019 12:01 AM (Y+IGD)

443 Infidel, LBG airport? Not LGB?
(I live close to the LGB airport)
:-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:01 AM (L2ZTs)

444 Jim Gafficant? did a great routine on working in a Mexican restaurant in Indiana.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 18, 2019 12:03 AM (Y+IGD)

445 I remember some vague reference to Cherry Cola, I am guessing because it rhymed.


"I met her in a bar down in north SoHo where they drink champagne and it tastes just like Coca-Cola
C-O-L-A cola"

Changed to cherry cola for BBC airplay because they had rules against using brand names.

Posted by: The Kinks at August 18, 2019 12:03 AM (fuK7c)

446 How many people in Lexington Kentucky (or US at large) have ever been to a Cantina to know what their tortilla chips are like?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

"tortilla chips" are, I think, an America invention, much like "chop suey" is.

But Mexican restaurants (the real ones in Mexico) have adopted them, though.
Mexican tortilla chips I have eaten (in Mexico) are pretty bland.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 18, 2019 12:03 AM (S6Pax)

447 Jinx, I recently found out that Jim Gaffigan is gonna do a show at Agua Caliente Casino/Resort in Rancho Mirage this December. I might just go see him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:04 AM (L2ZTs)

448 Down in the West Texas town of El Paso
I fell in love with a tortilla chip.

Posted by: BigZesty at August 18, 2019 12:04 AM (IcXnp)

449 OK Hordelings, it's bedtime for Bonzo.

Y'all try to behave. Pray for protection and pray for our President.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 18, 2019 12:05 AM (HaL55)

450 I'll get in trouble for admitting this but...

I've found I actually like Bruce Springsteen's original of Blinded By The Light, better than Manfred Mann's version.

Although it does sound on Bruce's original like he was (a) half drunk and (b) pretty much making everything up as he went along...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:05 AM (L2ZTs)

451 Night BB.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:05 AM (ycWCI)

452
Blonde, here's my transcript of Antonio's remarks:

"Blah blah I love Gloria blah blah when I was mayor there was no crime in LA blah blah orange man bad blah blah I'll vote for anything with a D after its name blah blah California will smash Trump in the courts blah blah I love Newsome blah blah"
Posted by: qdpsteve

=======

a-HA. So my suspicions are true.

Newsom is running for president in 2024, and Antonio will run for governor again.

Thanks, qdp!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:05 AM (13CQC)

453 (I live close to the LGB airport)
:-)

yes. The brandy is kicking in.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:05 AM (BLFnH)

454 I recently found out that Jim Gaffigan is gonna do a show at Agua Caliente Casino/Resort in Rancho Mirage this December. I might just go see him.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Can think of many worse ways to spend some cash and an evening.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 18, 2019 12:06 AM (Y+IGD)

455 Changed to cherry cola for BBC airplay because they had rules against using brand names.
Posted by: The Kinks at August 18, 2019 12:03 AM (fuK7c)

"Cherry cola" is really a better lyric choice, given the degree of fruitiness.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 12:06 AM (a72/q)

456 387

Heather Locklear was in The Return of Swamp Thing
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 11:33 PM (aKsyK)

Heather Locklear just got involuntarily committed to a mental institution for 20 days. Group therapy just got a whole lot more interesting for a few folks tomorrow.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 18, 2019 12:06 AM (jp0Bv)

457 Infidel, wish I had known. Maybe we could have gotten together. :-)

Jinx, yup!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:06 AM (L2ZTs)

458 Blonde, happy to help

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:07 AM (L2ZTs)

459 Bezosabub sells many toothpick crossbows and cannons, miniature cannons and fuse, don't know if he sells cannon powder.

One could set it on his office desk and while - no I wouldn't be right to point it at the employee while holding a lit match close to the fuse.

Posted by: Braenyard - Roof Korean, white supremacist and cultural appropriator at August 18, 2019 12:08 AM (cNlpM)

460 I wonder if the Brits think Mexicans also speak with a lisp...

Brits who take Spanish classes are aware of non-lisping dialects of Spanish, like Mexican and Cuban.

I was amused to hear lisping affectations again among Latino activists in American universities. HACER @Rice pronounced "Hather" for instance. Yeah bullshit, you don't pronounce it like this amongst yourselves.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 12:08 AM (ykYG2)

461 Heather Locklear just got involuntarily committed to a mental institution for 20 days. Group therapy just got a whole lot more interesting for a few folks tomorrow.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 18, 2019 12:06 AM (jp0Bv)

She should have bought an AR-15, a hundred-round drum mag, and threatened to kill a mess of people. That would have kept her out of the booby hatch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 12:09 AM (a72/q)

462 qdp, it was a quick trip. Took the ferry to Catalina to dump dad's ashes where we used to sail. Managed to get a horrible cold that is still hanging on.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:09 AM (BLFnH)

463
Heather Locklear just got involuntarily committed to a mental institution for 20 days. Group therapy just got a whole lot more interesting for a few folks tomorrow.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls

=======

I would love to know how that happened. Must have been a very serious threat to herself or others. We tried to get my psychotic friend committed, but even with *several* LENGTHY *WRITTEN-DOWN* suicide threats, they let her go after a brief interview.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:09 AM (13CQC)

464 "Holly came from Miami F.L.A.
Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.
Plucked her eyebrows on the way
Shaved her legs and then he was a she
She said, hey babe, take a walk on the wild side,
Said, hey honey, take a walk on the wild side."


There are a couple of cool songs about trannies.

Posted by: Lou Reed at August 18, 2019 12:09 AM (fuK7c)

465 Bilwis and AOP, any info where Heather is committed?

If she's at the facility where I used to work, LOL...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:10 AM (L2ZTs)

466 Infidel, understood.
Anyway, you have now been in my neighborhood, literally. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:10 AM (L2ZTs)

467 Heather Locklear has been buggy for some years now.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 12:11 AM (ykYG2)

468 boulder, Heather's software has been un-updated since Baywatch I think :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:11 AM (L2ZTs)

469 Bilwis and AOP, any info where Heather is committed?

If she's at the facility where I used to work, LOL...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:10 AM (L2ZTs)

There was some reference to it this morning. Don't know which rubber room.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 12:12 AM (a72/q)

470
She should have bought an AR-15, a hundred-round drum mag, and threatened to kill a mess of people. That would have kept her out of the booby hatch.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

======

LOL, too true.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:12 AM (13CQC)

471 heh, qdp. Been there lots in the past. Some old stompin grounds.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:12 AM (BLFnH)

472 Infidel, please let me know when you pass through again. I really am close by and would love to meetcha. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:14 AM (L2ZTs)

473 qdpsteve, technically it is a "ceceo" and the Castillians all use the unvoiced theta.

My personal fascination is the the Argentine habit of turning all Y sounds into CH sounds.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 12:16 AM (q2o38)

474 {{qdp}}

Ditto if you are ever on the western slope!

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:16 AM (BLFnH)

475
Heather Locklear just got involuntarily committed to a mental institution for 20 days.
=======
I would love to know how that happened. Must have been a very serious threat to herself or others.


Heather Locklear has pleaded no contest to charges that she fought with first responders during two visits to her Southern California home last year.

Locklear entered the plea in Ventura County court Friday afternoon to five counts of battery on a peace officer, one count of battery on emergency personnel and two counts of resisting, obstructing or delaying a peace officer.

A judge sentenced her to 120 days in jail, but the sentence was stayed pending completion of a substance-abuse treatment program.

The 57-year-old "Melrose Place" and "T.J. Hooker" actress was also sentenced to three years' probation.

Deputies and paramedics answering calls about domestic disputes at Locklear's home in March and June of 2018 said that she pushed, kicked and shouted at them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 12:16 AM (aKsyK)

476 What does Adrienne Barbeau mean?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2019 11:28 PM (aKsyK)

Ginormous boobehs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Ginormous boobehs.

The only good thing about the 70s, really.

Posted by: Miklos, un-nostalgic at August 18, 2019 12:17 AM (QzkSJ)

477 Infidel, thanks :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:18 AM (L2ZTs)

478 Deputies and paramedics answering calls about domestic disputes at Locklear's home in March and June of 2018 said that she pushed, kicked and shouted at them.


And she gets her happy room time in August 2019?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:18 AM (fuK7c)

479 Doors that go Shhh

https://youtu.be/7tAIbx-l8YA

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 12:19 AM (q2o38)

480 Heather must have some strong demons. Poor thing. She needs prayers.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:19 AM (BLFnH)

481 >I was at the LBG airport Monday.


You don't change planes; you transition.




Posted by: Miklos, not sure about Show Low Regional airport either at August 18, 2019 12:21 AM (QzkSJ)

482 > How many people in Lexington Kentucky (or US at large) have ever been to a Cantina

She was dancing when I seen her
In a Mexican cantina
In a neighborhood they call La Zona Roja

She had a child's smile
But she told me in a while
It would take a lot of gold to get to know her

I knew there's no one cuter
Then she said she was a puta
I say what does "puta" mean?
And so she told me.

Then we went to meet the dealer
We smoke, and drink tequila
Then the lights went out and I guess that's when she rolled me.

Posted by: Shel Silverstein at August 18, 2019 12:22 AM (b1Typ)

483 I've read that the 'lisping' Spanish accent is considered 'effeminate' (ghey) in most New World hispanic ethnic groups...

Also in the 'lisping' dialects of Spanish, the 's' sound (where it's spelt with an 's') is aspirated, sounding more like the 'h' sound...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 18, 2019 12:23 AM (7WaWV)

484 The only good thing about the 70s, really.
Posted by: Miklos, un-nostalgic at August 18, 2019 12:17 AM (QzkSJ)

Point.

Counterpoint:
https://tinyurl.com/yyrq7yqy

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:23 AM (ycWCI)

485 Miklos, wow, I had no idea so many of you were passing by so closely.

Everyone, standing invitation to give me a yell if you're at LGB. There's a food court there where I can meetcha. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:23 AM (L2ZTs)

486 Bander : And she gets her happy room time in August 2019?

Locklear is an Important Person, like Epstein
- tinyurl.com/y33zlr89

Or like Ted Kennedy.

When Important People make a little boo boo, like assaulting cops, or diddling tweens or driving girls into lagoons, they get the punishments they deserve. And what they deserve is to be let off, with some bogus mark on their record so the local authorities can save face.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 12:24 AM (ykYG2)

487 > I've read that the 'lisping' Spanish accent is considered 'effeminate' (ghey) in most New World hispanic ethnic groups...

Legacy of an inbred monarch with a speech impediment, as I understand it. See also: "upper class" British speech.

Posted by: Shel Silverstein at August 18, 2019 12:24 AM (b1Typ)

488 Wasn't there some Spanish king with a lisp and all the courtiers imitated it to suck up to him and that's how we got Castillian?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:24 AM (fuK7c)

489
And she gets her happy room time in August 2019?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic

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Seems like she got it in September 2018 and now she's sentenced to a "treatment program."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:24 AM (13CQC)

490 Hey! Who's effeminate? Prepare to die!

Posted by: Inigo the Spaniard at August 18, 2019 12:25 AM (knNho)

491 Kindltot the only Argie quirk I recall was from porteno, the B.A. version, where double "l" becomes "j" ["CA-jay la-VAHJ" for Calle LeValle, one of the pedestrian streets downtown].

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:25 AM (QDnY+)

492 This song would be the official theme song of the ONT, if we could get Metallica to cover it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHlpEEr-RAs

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:25 AM (L2ZTs)

493 Heather Locklear, and myself, are somewhat distaff members of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina.

White Man's Crazy is simply The Way of Our People.

Posted by: Miklos, respected tribal elder at August 18, 2019 12:25 AM (QzkSJ)

494 The Medicine Woman. Holy Moly.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 12:25 AM (BLFnH)

495 Heather is a republican. Just putting that out there.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 12:26 AM (9Om/r)

496 LBG Airport

These rainbow uniforms are so ghey.

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at August 18, 2019 12:26 AM (EgshT)

497 Heather Locklear, and myself, are somewhat distaff members of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina.

Posted by: Miklos, respected tribal elder



Distaff means girl.

Are we keeping with the musical theme?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:27 AM (fuK7c)

498 I was at the LBG airport Monday.

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I hope you weren't headed for Hermopoulous airport because the LBG-TXYZ route can leave you in some freaky shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:27 AM (amw5z)

499 Counterpoint:
https://tinyurl.com/yyrq7yqy
Posted by: Aetius451AD

That Jane is not a Plain Jane.

Posted by: Miklos, a man of fixed opinions at August 18, 2019 12:27 AM (QzkSJ)

500 495 Heather is a republican. Just putting that out there.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 12:26 AM (9Om/r)


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Conservative or GOPe? There's a difference.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:28 AM (amw5z)

501 I bet Nellie Ohr wears boxers.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at August 18, 2019 12:28 AM (Jj+59)

502 the B.A. version, where double "l" becomes "j" ["CA-jay la-VAHJ" for Calle LeValle, one of the pedestrian streets downtown].

My dad who worked with Caracas and Buenos Aires, during their brief moments of lucidity, confirms this.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 12:29 AM (ykYG2)

503 Night all thanks for the entertainment here you guys always crack me up. I'm off for a nap may see you later. Have to work a short day tomorrow but that's no problem.

Be well you Morons..

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at August 18, 2019 12:29 AM (ia/Ba)

504 Distaff means girl.

Are we keeping with the musical theme?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:27 AM (fuK7c)

If we ever get the casino, tax free booze and tobacco licenses, you can slap my ass and call me Shorty.

Posted by: Miklos, needing only moderately corrupt politicians at August 18, 2019 12:30 AM (QzkSJ)

505
Broke her heart, lost my own
Adios mi corazón

Spanish is the loving tongue
Soft as music, light as spray
'twas a girl I learned it from
Living down sonora way
Well I don't look much like a lover
Still I say her loved words over
Mostly when I'm all alone
Mi amor, mi corazón

Haven't seen her since that night
I can't cross the line, you know
They want me for the gamblin' fight
Like as not it's better so
Still I've always kind of missed her
Since that last sad night I kissed her
Broke her heart, lost my own
Adios, mi corazón
Broke her heart, lost my own
Adios, mi corazón
Adios, mi corazón

Posted by: Bob Dylan at August 18, 2019 12:31 AM (vfOIM)

506 That Jane is not a Plain Jane.
Posted by: Miklos, a man of fixed opinions at August 18, 2019 12:27 AM (QzkSJ)


Truth. I also love, the picture is very tasteful, but at the bottom is something about 'all nude celebs.com' or something. It could be my jaded eyes, but she is not... nude.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:32 AM (ycWCI)

507 Also in the 'lisping' dialects of Spanish, the 's'
sound (where it's spelt with an 's') is aspirated, sounding more like
the 'h' sound...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 18, 2019 12:23 AM (7WaWV)


Not in my experience. The S is more like you making an S noise with your tongue set where you as an English speaker pronounce the T in 'timber'

As for the ceceo? Ponces, all of them. Real men drop their Gs and any S that comes before a T.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 12:32 AM (q2o38)

508 Night Farmer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:32 AM (ycWCI)

509 And don't get me started on people who say Oiga and Andale all the time.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 12:33 AM (q2o38)

510 More 1970's loveliness:

https://tinyurl.com/y3c3gc56

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:33 AM (ycWCI)

511 I bet Nellie Ohr wears boxers.
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn
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And has a mean fist. I can see her working a bug, "CQ CQ CQ"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 12:34 AM (vfOIM)

512 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at August 18, 2019 12:34 AM (amw5z)

513 And don't get me started on people who say Oiga and Andale all the time.
Posted by: Kindltot

But the kids love it!

Posted by: Miklos' Tzampotli Family Fun Park and Endless Taco Bar at August 18, 2019 12:35 AM (QzkSJ)

514 "working a bug?"

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 18, 2019 12:36 AM (7WaWV)

515 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Passed out and dreaming of Beto.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at August 18, 2019 12:36 AM (EgshT)

516 I bet Nellie Ohr wears boxers.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn



I'm betting she has a cod piece.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 12:37 AM (9Om/r)

517 There's a German restaurant on Calle LeValle - ABC - where I ate decades ago. Hosts were young local journalist types. They said the place had staff who were Graf Spee crewmen who had never left the area after the famous scuttling of their pocket battleship off Montevideo. They certainly looked the part, and the age/numbers penciled out. Never did look into it, a mistake. If true, an amazing story. Along with German POWs in America, the luckiest Germans of the era.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:37 AM (QDnY+)

518 More 1970's loveliness:


Hawt.

On the other hand...I met her. Sort of. I sold her a $3,000 paperweight in '83. It was my get to the big city job.

Anyway, she was either coked up or extremely dumb. There was absolutely nothing going on behind her eyes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:38 AM (fuK7c)

519 "working a bug?"


Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at August 18, 2019 12:36 AM (7WaWV)

A semi-automatic telegraph key, with a paddle that is moved side to side, instead of a lever that is tapped down.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 12:38 AM (a72/q)

520 I'm betting she has a cod piece.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

She loved it so much she named it Bruce.

Posted by: Miklos from some insurance company at August 18, 2019 12:38 AM (QzkSJ)

521 Anyway, she was either coked up or extremely dumb. There was absolutely nothing going on behind her eyes.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:38 AM (fuK7c)

Someone throw Bander in front of a train, please.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:39 AM (ycWCI)

522 Trumpentwatters has that GIF of the TIME magazine cover about Trumpism forever.


I'm already very pre-bored with January 21, 2O25. Whoever it is.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:40 AM (QDnY+)

523 You'll never think of crochet quite the same way:

https://tinyurl.com/y5gck28q

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:40 AM (ycWCI)

524
You'll never think of crochet quite the same way:



https://tinyurl.com/y5gck28q





Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:40 AM (ycWCI)


I think you're quite right about that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2019 12:42 AM (9Om/r)

525 Something was in the water in the 1970s.

Something that made people sexier and made their clothes fall off more easily.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 12:42 AM (L2ZTs)

526 Never did look into it, a mistake. If true, an amazing story. Along with German POWs in America, the luckiest Germans of the era.

Posted by: rhomboid

The redoubtable Strom Thurmond, as governor of SC, had ex-German POWs as both driver and executive chef.

The chef stayed on as chef at the governor's mansion until he (the chef) retired in the 80's.

Posted by: Miklos, with Fun Facts to know and tell at August 18, 2019 12:43 AM (QzkSJ)

527 Something was in the water in the 1970s.

Something that made people sexier and made their clothes fall off more easily.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Polyester is pretty water resistant.

Not flame retardant, though.

Posted by: Miklos, allergic to polyester at August 18, 2019 12:44 AM (QzkSJ)

528 Here today somebody mentioned the Navy going to physical messages [notes attached to bean-bags, dropped from choppers] for secure comms between ships. [something like this was done in WWII by carrier planes of several navies]


I thought: huh? How about signal lamps? Impervious to distant interception and decoding, or jamming. Of course, range limited. What's the practical range limit for signal lamp comms - assuming reasonably clear conditions?


Morse Code will ride again!




Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:45 AM (QDnY+)

529 Ex-Nazis make great drivers, but not as great as Chinese spies. Hands down they're the best drivers.

Posted by: Sen. Dianne Feinstein at August 18, 2019 12:45 AM (amw5z)

530 You'll never think of crochet quite the same way:



A Purl of Great Price....

Posted by: Miklos, with Manchu Fu at August 18, 2019 12:46 AM (QzkSJ)

531 Colombia and Venezuela turn the LL and Y and sometimes the initial I like in [h]ielo into that French-sounding ZHA sound.

The BA folk get excited and it turns into a SH or a CH

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 12:46 AM (q2o38)

532
Morse Code will ride again!




Posted by: rhomboid

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One if by land, two if by sea!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:47 AM (13CQC)

533
A semi-automatic telegraph key, with a paddle that is moved side to side, instead of a lever that is tapped down.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


https://tinyurl.com/y2flt6np

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 12:48 AM (aKsyK)

534
Ex-Nazis make great drivers, but not as great as Chinese spies. Hands down they're the best drivers.
Posted by: Sen. Dianne Feinstein

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If they were driving well, that should have been your first sign that something was amiss.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 12:49 AM (13CQC)

535 Morse Code will ride again!

"How to Succeed in COMSEC Without Really Trying"

Posted by: Robert Morse at August 18, 2019 12:49 AM (QzkSJ)

536 Ran across this lady, Nancy Cameron while doing the research:

https://tinyurl.com/y2nsenuy

Nancy Cameron. Evidently a Playboy playmate from 1974. The boobs caught my attention, but there is something about the eyes that seems timeless.

For the more complete lady (sfw):

https://tinyurl.com/y33plw23

Obviously, there are also a variety of NSFW images out there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:50 AM (ycWCI)

537 Miklos, did not know that about Thurmond. Nice.


All I knew was the orange hair, and THE hottest front office personnel in the Senate at the time. Matsunaga [HI] was the other consistent high performer in that category [Asian, Japanese lovelies]. There were certain offices you'd go to yourself, when there was paper to move, instead of sending an intern or a subordinate. For reasons.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:50 AM (QDnY+)

538 There were certain offices you'd go to yourself, when there was paper to move, instead of sending an intern or a subordinate. For reasons.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:50 AM (QDnY+)

Important men. On important, vital business.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:52 AM (ycWCI)

539 Nellie may have acquired a Ham ticket, but I would bet a very large sum that wouldn't know Morse if she heard it.

I'm betting that she is/has communicated with someone, or someones, via one of the digital modes. No wiretaps or phone records that way.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 12:53 AM (vfOIM)

540 https://tinyurl.com/y2flt6np
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 12:48 AM (aKsyK)

almost as purdy as a Lucas voltage regulator, but undoubtedly works better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 12:53 AM (a72/q)

541 Those Russians. They sure had some great proverbs and shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:54 AM (amw5z)

542 Important men. On important, vital business.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

On such occasions, it's spelled bidnis.

Posted by: Miklos the orthographer at August 18, 2019 12:55 AM (QzkSJ)

543 "As Charlie (Wilson) always says, you can teach them to type but you can't teach them to grow tits".

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:56 AM (fuK7c)

544 Aetius you probably recall the age at which one topic dominated all action, inaction, thought, lack of thought, and imagination.


June was good. New crop of interns or summer fellows [uh, "she-fellows"], lots of lobbyist receptions. Free dinner, good hunting.








Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:56 AM (QDnY+)

545 Aetius you probably recall the age at which one topic dominated all action, inaction, thought, lack of thought, and imagination.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 12:56 AM (QDnY+)

Rhomboid, my good friend, I just developed a crush on a playboy playmate who posed for them a year before I was born.

I never left that age.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 12:58 AM (ycWCI)

546 June was good. New crop of interns or summer fellows [uh, "she-fellows"], lots of lobbyist receptions. Free dinner, good hunting.


That Rhomboid boy was ever so sweet.

Posted by: Fanne Fox, the Tidal Basin Bombshell at August 18, 2019 12:58 AM (QzkSJ)

547 Posted by: Fanne Fox, the Tidal Basin Bombshell at August 18, 2019 12:58 AM (QzkSJ)

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You gave my Wilbur a reason to live.

Posted by: Mr. Ed at August 18, 2019 12:59 AM (amw5z)

548 Ken Levine has a good blog post today featuring some very un-PC old ads:

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2019/08/weekend-post_17.html

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:00 AM (L2ZTs)

549 I shared this at the movie thread earlier today, but:

I got my bluray copy of Bad Lieutenant (why I asked the question about the word earlier) today.

I did *not* know it was one of the few movies that is actually rated, NC-17. Not R or Unrated... it's NC-17.

Must be quite the show.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:01 AM (L2ZTs)

550 I had a boss at the Space Center that was a German POW who was held in Kansas or somewhere like that. When he was repatriated he went home and had no family left except for a sister who had "married" a Polish deserter and started working his way back to the States before they shut down the East. Lots of intriging stories about a massivly chaotic time. He was a very practical fellow.

Posted by: pawn at August 18, 2019 01:02 AM (PveK5)

551 I did *not* know it was one of the few movies that is actually rated, NC-17. Not R or Unrated... it's NC-17.

Must be quite the show.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:01 AM (L2ZTs)

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If it has less man junk close-ups than Game of Thrones, consider it a win.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:05 AM (amw5z)

552 boxers are easy:

the Army used to issue green ones, so you didn't have to change them, and brown ones, so you didn't have to wash them,

pick one.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 18, 2019 01:05 AM (SEclx)

553 Cicero, ay carumba!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:06 AM (L2ZTs)

554 550 I had a boss at the Space Center that was a German POW who was held in Kansas or somewhere like that.
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His name wasn't von Braun by any chance, was it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:07 AM (amw5z)

555 almost as purdy as a Lucas voltage regulator, but undoubtedly works better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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*waxes nostalgic, thinking of burnishing regulator contacts*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 01:07 AM (vfOIM)

556 As for myself, whether a character is circumcised is entirely irrelevant to his character arc.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:08 AM (amw5z)

557 Cicero, just be glad you're not the mens makeup artist on GoT :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:10 AM (L2ZTs)

558
In San Diego.

I hear a lot of thumping booms in the far distance, far south. Like fireworks. Why would there be fireworks today?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 18, 2019 01:10 AM (t5m5e)

559 A rather large portion of my youth was growing up in San Diego, CA.

'Bout the time I was a sixth grader, we got new neighbors in the corner house. Japanese, and he was once Imperial Japanese Navy.

He was one of the few survivors of having been sunk by U.S. Navy forces, and rescued by the same.

The fact that he had accepted rescue, forever stained his name in Japan, and so he applied for immigration to the U.S., and went through the process.

They moved in 'round about 1972. He had just became a U.S. Citizen. He and his family prospered, and became successful.

Sadly, I could never attract the attention of his also same age as me daughter. I was Gaijin, even there in San Diego, USA.

Nuked too much, or not enough?

Van Der Leun asks the question, often. And I still don't know exactly the correct answer, thereto.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:12 AM (QzJWU)

560 Wash first or wear out of package?

Depends.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 01:12 AM (RuIsu)

561 Von Braun was not, um, exactly treated like a POW [thought they were treated very well].


pawn - your boss might have been held at Concordia, Kansas. There's a good documentary on UToob on the POW camp there, worth watching if the topic interests you. Many prisoners returned or stayed.


Just last week, someone told me about a story similar to your old boss'. Except a boy - 12 or so - who was the "man" in the family [father had been taken away for forced labor by the Red Army - they were in East Prussia]. He got to the western zone, got help with tricks to get his family to the west as well, got Canada as a young man, then here. Lots of incredible stories like that.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 01:13 AM (QDnY+)

562 Semi-literate thug - really?


Sea World. They used to do them every night in the summer [earlier time during the week] - now, just Fri/Sat, I think. Can see them when the marine layer is not too thick.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 01:16 AM (QDnY+)

563 I am told that when the German POWs got to the US and saw how big it was, they realized they would never win.

I was also told that when the Luftwaffe pilots saw the Americans were no longer painting their planes, but leaving them in bright Aluminum, they knew it was over, since they paint jobs were just slowing down deployment and costing extra money.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 01:16 AM (q2o38)

564 553 hey qdp what's up with the momee???

Posted by: MAxIE, SJW Elite at August 18, 2019 01:16 AM (9TR2V)

565 I liked von Braun's one effort at popular music, I'm In A Peenemunde State Of Mind.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:18 AM (amw5z)

566
I did *not* know it was one of the few movies that is actually rated, NC-17. Not R or Unrated... it's NC-17.

Must be quite the show.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:01 AM (L2ZTs)

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Harvey Keitel's dick. The rest of it is practically primetime t.v. by today's standards.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 01:18 AM (13CQC)

567 Just found a website "A Detail Enthusiast".

It seems to be about old cars and stuff. Lots of pix of details, which is the kind of stuff I end up shooting.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 01:18 AM (RuIsu)

568 Well, my transmission repair job is nearly complete. Ready to put the pan back on, and the manual valve lever and range switch on the outside of it, then back in the truck it goes, hopefully to work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:20 AM (a72/q)

569
It seems to be about old cars and stuff. Lots of pix of details, which is the kind of stuff I end up shooting.
Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 01:18 AM (RuIsu)

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Is a red flag report in order then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:20 AM (amw5z)

570 ea World. They used to do them every night in the summer [earlier time during the week] - now, just Fri/Sat, I think. Can see them when the marine layer is not too thick.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 01:16 AM (QDnY+)

Wrong direction, and a little bit later than previous Sea World shows. I can generally see the Sea World ones in the distance, and didn't see anything.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 18, 2019 01:20 AM (t5m5e)

571 I am told that when the German POWs got to the US and saw how big it was, they realized they would never win.



A whole cluster of German companies, first BASF and Hoechst in the 60's then BMW, located to the environs of Spartanburg SC at the recommendation of former POWs who had been held at Camp Croft.

Apparently they held the locals in high regard, plus the Autobahns I-26 and I-85.

Also they don't like unions.

Posted by: Miklos, drinking and knowing things at August 18, 2019 01:21 AM (QzkSJ)

572 MaxIE, it's still on! One week from tonight!
I sent you the information, right?

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:21 AM (L2ZTs)

573 Blonde, thanks for the warning. Bleah.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:21 AM (L2ZTs)

574 Wrong direction, and a little bit later than previous Sea World shows. I can generally see the Sea World ones in the distance, and didn't see anything.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 18, 2019 01:20 AM (t5m5e)

Maybe they got the trebuchet working at last, and the thumps are the wetbacks landing on the tin roof of the donkey-show cantina in TJ.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:22 AM (a72/q)

575 Also they don't like unions.

That thing they tried with Austria didn't work out, either.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targetting at August 18, 2019 01:22 AM (xkSJa)

576 The main challenge with German POWs was determining who the hard core were - there was always a small group of true believers - and separating them out [different camps]. I believe the hard core killed another prisoner at Concordia, and probably elsewhere.


Kind of predictable. Relieved, safe, well treated young German soldier finds a friendly huge beautiful country, is naturally disarmed and content. Nazis go nuts at this, attempt to enforce discipline - fail.


I think it was at Concordia - or maybe Windsor up in Sonoma - the POWs later told stories about waking their "guard" - who was napping - when their agricultural day labor was done. Think one time a guard lost his shotgun and they found it for him, too.


Definitely the part of the war to be in, looking at it from one perspective.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 01:23 AM (QDnY+)

577 I hear Sea World's reputation has improved since they quit the "tuna" canning operation... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:23 AM (L2ZTs)

578 If Sea World would thrown Rosie O'd into the tank, they could still put on Whale Shows.

Well, ONE show.

Then the word would get out as to what they'd done, and stampedes of people would thunder away from the admission gates.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:23 AM (QzJWU)

579 I liked von Braun's one effort at popular music, I'm In A Peenemunde State Of Mind.
Posted by: Cicero

I kinda liked his "Love Missile F1-11" as Sigue Sigue Sputnik

Posted by: Miklos, probably downrange at August 18, 2019 01:23 AM (QzkSJ)

580 577 I hear Sea World's reputation has improved since they quit the "tuna" canning operation... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:23 AM (L2ZTs)

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Wait. Whut?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:24 AM (amw5z)

581 If the nations of Europe were people, Poland would have had about 100 restraining orders filed against Germany by now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:24 AM (L2ZTs)

582 Then the word would get out as to what they'd done, and stampedes of people would thunder away from the admission gates.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:23 AM (QzJWU)

That would be one gnarly whale: a gnarwhal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:25 AM (a72/q)

583 That thing they tried with Austria didn't work out, either.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Uh uh

"Edelweiss" is your earworm, not mine.

Posted by: Miklos, it prolly anti-Nazi racist though at August 18, 2019 01:26 AM (QzkSJ)

584 thug - Sea World is always 1OPM on the dot. Heard it tonight. Didn't hear anything else. But we're in different places - I'm down near Mission Valley.


Dunno what else it would be.


But there have been a few mysterious fireworks events this summer. Maybe another one.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 01:26 AM (QDnY+)

585 Cicero, you don't remember the ad jingle?

"It takes all kinds-a undersea critters to make Sea World's tuna fritters" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:26 AM (L2ZTs)

586 585 Cicero, you don't remember the ad jingle?

"It takes all kinds-a undersea critters to make Sea World's tuna fritters" ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:26 AM (L2ZTs)

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No. I must have been away at reform school for that one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:27 AM (amw5z)

587 Van Braun was the script writer for many key episodes of The Honeymooners.

You don't think Krammden's "To the Moon!" threats to Alice were coincidence, did'ja?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:28 AM (QzJWU)

588 If the nations of Europe were people, Poland would have had about 100 restraining orders filed against Germany by now.


Dear Poland, you are the flat place betwen Germany and Russia. You chose unwisely.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:28 AM (fuK7c)

589 And then there was that time when, after he got arrested for exposing himself, Sea World hired on the Gorton's Fisherman... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:28 AM (L2ZTs)

590 Bander, Poland has twice as many orders against Russia ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:29 AM (L2ZTs)

591 584 thug - Sea World is always 1OPM on the dot. Heard it tonight. Didn't hear anything else. But we're in different places - I'm down near Mission Valley.

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Brings back days of my yute in Anaheim, with the Magic Kingdom popping off every night at 9:30. I had a great view of the show from my backyard if I cared to go watch it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:30 AM (amw5z)

592 "It takes all kinds-a undersea critters to make Sea World's tuna fritters" ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve



https://www.theonion.com/american-consumer-masses-agree-it-fish-time-1819570899

Posted by: Miklos, ni hao at August 18, 2019 01:30 AM (QzkSJ)

593
I am told that when the German POWs got to the US and saw how big it was, they realized they would never win.

Did they know how big Russia was?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 01:31 AM (aKsyK)

594 If tuna is "chicken of the sea", does that mean that crow is "pollock of the plains"? And if not, why not?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (a72/q)

595 I think the Germans thought that if they could just take Moscow, everything else would topple like dominoes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (L2ZTs)

596 I am told that when the German POWs got to the US and saw how big it was, they realized they would never win.

Did they know how big Russia was?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2019 01:31 AM (aKsyK)

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We learned, Comrade.

Posted by: Field Marshal Friedrich Paulus at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (amw5z)

597 Then there are the words that Spanish-speakers have taken from other languages and mangled, the same as we do with foreign words.

In one of his non-fiction books, Robert Heinlein relates being directed to contact a Senor "Ho-Nace" about some issue that arose while he was in a Latin American country. "Could you spell that, please?" "Si. J-O-N-E-S"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:33 AM (b1Typ)

598 (569) Didn't mean to alarm the crowd. "Shooting" used to be slang for taking pictures.

These days, the word might bring the SWAT. Which used to be the method by which one would execute flying insects.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 18, 2019 01:33 AM (RuIsu)

599 595 I think the Germans thought that if they could just take Moscow, everything else would topple like dominoes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (L2ZTs)

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Pffft.

Posted by: N. Bonaparte at August 18, 2019 01:33 AM (amw5z)

600 tuna = "chicken of the sea"
pork = "the other white meat"
beef = "it's what's for dinner"
turkey = "Democrats in edible form"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:34 AM (L2ZTs)

601 "It takes all kinds-a undersea critters to make Sea World's tuna fritters" ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:26 AM


You will be hearing from my lawyers in the morning.

Posted by: Farmer Vincent at August 18, 2019 01:34 AM (zCabI)

602 https://www.theonion.com/american-consumer-masses-agree-it-fish-time-1819570899
Posted by: Miklos, ni hao at August 18, 2019 01:30 AM (QzkSJ)

Heh! priceless.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:34 AM (a72/q)

603 > If tuna is "chicken of the sea", does that mean that crow is "pollock of the plains"? And if not, why not?

Rat is the venison of Caracas.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:34 AM (b1Typ)

604 595 I think the Germans thought that if they could just take Moscow, everything else would topple like dominoes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (L2ZTs)

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That is one of the more interesting historical questions of the 20th century.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:35 AM (amw5z)

605 Bought a custom, luxury home in San Antonio, TX, back in 1995.

Could sit on the back deck, and look out OVER neighbor's 2nd story ROOF, and watch the fireworks at Fiesta Texas.

Not saying my place was at the top of the hill, but it was at the top of the hill.

Kinda diamond shaped, quasi-trapezoidal shaped 1/4 acre lot, and with 29 very large, mature trees in the backyard.

Pity the ex-was a demented shop-a-holic, with a complimentary nagging harridan complex.

Otherwise, I might've been perfectly happy there.

And don't even ask me about my present domestic bliss. 'Cause it doesn't exist.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:35 AM (QzJWU)

606 Miklos, LOL.

"I dunno what's in this mystery paste, I just know I can't stop eating it!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:35 AM (L2ZTs)

607 > Rat is the venison of Caracas.


Make that the venison of Venezuela. Damn, missed the obvious alliteration there.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:35 AM (b1Typ)

608 I think the Germans thought that if they could just take Moscow, everything else would topple like dominoes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (L2ZTs)

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That is one of the more interesting historical questions of the 20th century.



But wait! That town over there has Stalin's name on it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:36 AM (fuK7c)

609 > Dear Poland, you are the flat place betwen Germany and Russia. You chose unwisely.

Tell us about it.

Posted by: Belgium, the flat place between Germany and France at August 18, 2019 01:36 AM (b1Typ)

610 Sea World didn't help things with their follow-up ad campaign either.

"Dolphins schmolphins!! YOLO! Try our new 'Kaviarr'!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:37 AM (L2ZTs)

611 Most of the German POWs during WW2 came here to work agriculture. FDR went on the internet and said that they could come here and pick fruit and vegetables. I'm talking about JOBS! Ones that Americans couldnt do or were unwilling to do.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 18, 2019 01:38 AM (8fb4f)

612

Evening fappers and distinguished guests.

Posted by: Rockery Hudpeck at August 18, 2019 01:38 AM (qul7b)

613 611 Most of the German POWs during WW2 came here to work agriculture. FDR went on the internet and said that they could come here and pick fruit and vegetables. I'm talking about JOBS! Ones that Americans couldnt do or were unwilling to do.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 18, 2019 01:38 AM (8fb4f)

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German POWs taught Americans how to make sausage. True fact.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:40 AM (amw5z)

614 ...595 I think the Germans thought that if they could just take Moscow, everything else would topple like dominoes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:32 AM (L2ZTs



Pre Industrial Revolution, it used to be that when you captured and invested a Capital City, it was pretty much the same thing as in the Chess Thread, you topple the King.

Stailin, withdrawing East of the Urals though, drew up an entirely different Chessboard.

And Adolph sucked at 3-D chess, altogether.

Bet there's already a video of him sucking at 3-D chess, too.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:40 AM (QzJWU)

615 > But wait! That town over there has Stalin's name on it.

Think I'm gonna go listen to Al Stewart's Roads to Moscow before turning in.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:40 AM (b1Typ)

616 Did they know how big Russia was?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Noel Coward could have told them that it's large, very large.

Posted by: Miklos, understudy for Private Lives at August 18, 2019 01:41 AM (QzkSJ)

617 Dear Poland, you are the flat place betwen Germany and Russia. You chose unwisely.


Tell us about it.

Posted by: Hungary, in the Carpathian Friggin' Basin at August 18, 2019 01:42 AM (QzkSJ)

618 Say what you will about Hitler, but he had some real talent in watercolor.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:43 AM (amw5z)

619 Harvey Keitel's dick.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 01:18 AM (13CQC)

Better known by his stage name, "Robert DeNiro"

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 18, 2019 01:44 AM (jp0Bv)

620 Tell us about it.

Posted by: Hungary, in the Carpathian Friggin' Basin



Oh right. Hungary. The gateway to Serbia. Oh boy.

Posted by: Germany at August 18, 2019 01:45 AM (fuK7c)

621 Hungary? How about some Turkey and Chile?

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:46 AM (L2ZTs)

622 Most of the German POWs during WW2 came here to work agriculture. FDR went on the internet and said that they could come here and pick fruit and vegetables. I'm talking about JOBS! Ones that Americans couldnt do or were unwilling to do.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 18, 2019 01:38 AM (8fb4f)

Nach unten springen, sich umdrehen, einen Ballen Baumwolle pflucken.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:47 AM (a72/q)

623 ...Nach unten springen, sich umdrehen, einen Ballen Baumwolle pflucken.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:47 AM (a72/q)



I ran that through the Ultra translator, and all I got was: "Drink moar Ovaltine".




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:49 AM (QzJWU)

624 Nobody knows
Da troubles I seen
Nobody knows de sorrow

Posted by: German Agricultural POW # 52885 at August 18, 2019 01:50 AM (amw5z)

625 Nach unten springen, sich umdrehen, einen Ballen Baumwolle pflucken.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Whoa up!

Picken bailen baumwollen
Picken bailen pro Day

Posted by: Miklos, Swinging Low at August 18, 2019 01:50 AM (QzkSJ)

626 I think the Germans thought that if they could just take Moscow, everything else would topple like dominoes.

Robert Harris (whom I don't read anymore because he's a Polanski supporter) mooted in "Fatherland" that to the extent the Nazis could have "won" WW2, they'd have stopped at the Urals. The USSR would still be a thing in Siberia and the Turkestan SSRs.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 01:50 AM (ykYG2)

627 Good one Miklos. "God bless and keep the Czar...far away from us" L'Chaim!

Posted by: pawn at August 18, 2019 01:51 AM (PveK5)

628 pawn, that line is from Fiddler On The Roof. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:51 AM (L2ZTs)

629
Harvey Keitel's dick.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 01:18 AM (13CQC)


Better known by his stage name, "Robert DeNiro"
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls

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Belongs out of sight. Streams waste matter.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 01:52 AM (13CQC)

630 There's gonna be a stage play about Anthony Wiener and Huma, by the way:

"Diddler and the Woof"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:52 AM (L2ZTs)

631 Du lädst 16 Tonnen, was kriegt dein Geduld?
Einen Tag älter und tiefer in Schuld

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:52 AM (fuK7c)

632 Fiddler On The Roof, Cats, what's the difference?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:52 AM (amw5z)

633 Cicero, quality for one... ;-)

Fiddler On The Roof = can watch and enjoy
Cats = paying customers gouge eyes out before intermission

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:53 AM (L2ZTs)

634 the POWs later told stories about waking their "guard" - who was napping - when their agricultural day labor was done. Think one time a guard lost his shotgun and they found it for him, too.

I knew someone whose father guarded Italian POWs in the United States during WWII. After they had selected out the handful of Italian Fascists, the remaining Italian prisoners were not viewed as a security risk, to put it mildly. There were not a lot of guards assigned, so things were pretty "informal" for a POW camp.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2019 01:53 AM (I2/tG)

635 L'Chaim!
Posted by: pawn

Egeszegedre!!

Posted by: Miklos, drinking that Midnite Special Value-Rite at August 18, 2019 01:54 AM (QzkSJ)

636 ...Fiddler On The Roof, Cats, what's the difference?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:52 AM (amw5z)




Hairballs, yakked.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 01:54 AM (QzJWU)

637 If I were a rich man...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:54 AM (L2ZTs)

638 > Nach unten springen, sich umdrehen, einen Ballen Baumwolle pflucken.

Spring zu, Jakob Krahe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:55 AM (b1Typ)

639 637 If I were a rich man...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:54 AM (L2ZTs)

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Don't kid around. You wouldn't last a day in a stetl.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:55 AM (amw5z)

640 Opps! It's late. That's it, yeah.

Sack time.

L'Chaim! anyway.

Posted by: pawn at August 18, 2019 01:55 AM (PveK5)

641 Napoleon took Moscow. The Russians burned whatever they couldn't carry away and skedaddled East. The French army hung out awhile, noticed their long supply lines were getting torn up pretty bad, got short of food, and began the great retreat that killed 90% of them.

I don't see why capturing Moscow would have won the war for the Nazis.



Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 18, 2019 01:55 AM (t5m5e)

642 Du lädst 16 Tonnen, was kriegt dein Geduld?
Einen Tag älter und tiefer in Schuld
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Now that's just showing off.

Posted by: Rheinland-Pfalz Ernie Ford at August 18, 2019 01:56 AM (QzkSJ)

643 If I were a Flintstone
Yabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba doo

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:56 AM (fuK7c)

644 [pulls out his Yiddish-to-English/English-to-Yiddish dictionary]

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:56 AM (L2ZTs)

645 Cicero, probably not

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:57 AM (L2ZTs)

646 > Baumwolle

I had no idea the German word for cotton was "tree wool". Makes sense, I guess. Much more so than the British "cotton wool".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 01:57 AM (b1Typ)

647 Now that's just showing off.


Oh come on. That was good. Where else could I do that?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 01:57 AM (fuK7c)

648 Hans Heinrich war ein Stahl schmachen Mann.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 01:58 AM (a72/q)

649 Rodrigo, I think about half of British English at this point is designed just to troll Americans... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 01:58 AM (L2ZTs)

650 Fred Flinstone was a yid? This explains a lot.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 01:58 AM (amw5z)

651 Wunsch Baumwolle wurd Affe

Posted by: Miklos and the Gang at August 18, 2019 01:59 AM (QzkSJ)

652 Well, time for me to go bring the dog in. She's keeping all the hoodoos awake by barking at them.

Be well, horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:00 AM (a72/q)

653 I don't see why capturing Moscow would have won the war for the Nazis.

Supply wasn't the Nazis' problem in the Deutsch-Sowjetische Krieg. The Nazis had roads and tanks and vehicles, which Napoleon did not.

The Nazis' problem was the sheer number of loyal Russians whom Stalin could muster. Because the Nazis were brutal overlords out East, burdened with an insane racial theory about Slavs.

Turns out that Slavs don't like it when you call them subhuman and murder their families. Who knew.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 02:01 AM (ykYG2)

654 > I don't see why capturing Moscow would have won the war for the Nazis.

I don't know that it would, either, but the situations weren't exactly parallel.

Stalin had far more central control than Alexander I, making a strike at the head likely to be more effective.

The boyars of Alexander's time were still more or less laws unto themselves. Under an autocratic czar, yes, but that autocracy wasn't anything like Stalin-level. For one thing, the technology just wasn't there to administer a centralized state of that nature.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 02:01 AM (b1Typ)

655
half of British English at this point is designed just to troll Americans... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve

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Their teeth and their cooking help a lot towards that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 02:01 AM (13CQC)

656 ...I don't see why capturing Moscow would have won the war for the Nazis.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 18, 2019 01:55 AM (t5m5e)



Had Adolph had adopted "Island Hopping" per Nimitz/MacAurthur, as regards the major "prestige" cities, then he could have pushed Ivan back to behind the Urals and clear to a Commie surrender.

But Adolph was committed to Places and Names.

And that sunk his Battleship.



Let us pray always, for enemies as stupid as Adolph.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 02:01 AM (QzJWU)

657 Blonde, true

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 02:02 AM (L2ZTs)

658
night aop

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 02:02 AM (13CQC)

659 > Rodrigo, I think about half of British English at this point is designed just to troll Americans... :-P

Sort of like my theory that a lot of French "food" is just the French having a joke on the British. :-)

Good night, all.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2019 02:02 AM (b1Typ)

660 I had an attractive co-worker who,one day, commented about her sock. I glanced down and noted that she was wearing socks.
I said, "You wear socks and underwear?"
She replied with a little tilt of her head, "Well, one out of two ain't bad."
Since I went commando, too, a foundation was laid for memories I can fondly recall while in my rocking chair in front of the wood stove after I turn 29.
Oh, "Your wanted by the police and my wife thinks your dead."

Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 18, 2019 02:03 AM (pmvzs)

661 Goodnight Rodrigo!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 02:04 AM (L2ZTs)

662
Let us pray always, for enemies as stupid as Adolph.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

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Sometimes I think it's only by the stupidity of our enemies that we're even here. Then I behold our education system. We're dangling by a thread.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 02:05 AM (13CQC)

663 Sort of like my theory that a lot of French "food" is just the French having a joke on the British. :-)


One man's fish is another man's poisson.

Posted by: Miklos a son gout at August 18, 2019 02:05 AM (QzkSJ)

664 One man's fish is another man's poisson.

Hat tip.

Posted by: Rockery Hudpeck at August 18, 2019 02:07 AM (qul7b)

665 "Your wanted by the police and my wife thinks your dead."
Posted by: Waepnedmann

Junior Brown is, in fact, the Greatest of All Time.

This is known.

Posted by: Miklos with absolute certainty at August 18, 2019 02:07 AM (QzkSJ)

666 Stalin had far more central control than Alexander I, making a strike at the head likely to be more effective.

Most of the Soviet governmental agencies were already evacuated to Kuybyshev (now Samara), and although Stalin himself remained in Moscow, he could have easily been evacuated, had it been needed.

The Soviets planned to do to Moscow what they did to Kiev - identify the likely locations of military headquarters if the Germans took the city, and placing enormous quantities of hidden explosives in those buildings on time delay. For days after the conquest of Kiev, buildings holding German headquarters kept blowing up.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2019 02:08 AM (I2/tG)

667 ...I had an attractive co-worker who,one day, commented about her sock. I glanced down and noted that she was wearing socks.

I said, "You wear socks and underwear?"
She replied with a little tilt of her head, "Well, one out of two ain't bad."

Since I went commando, too, a foundation was laid for memories I can fondly recall while in my rocking chair in front of the wood stove after I turn 29.

Oh, "Your wanted by the police and my wife thinks your dead."

Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 18, 2019 02:03 AM (pmvzs)



My friend.

I lived on a sailboat as a bachelor, from '99 to '06. Stories, I can tell.

After, that is, the Satutes of Limitations have expired.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX



Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 02:09 AM (QzJWU)

668 and placing enormous quantities of hidden explosives in those buildings on time delay.

When they demolished the Moskva Hotel in the mid-2000's, they found 250 kg of TNT buried under the building that everyone had forgotten about.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2019 02:12 AM (I2/tG)

669 ...Sometimes I think it's only by the stupidity of our enemies that we're even here. Then I behold our education system. We're dangling by a thread.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 18, 2019 02:05 AM (13CQC)]/I]


We're dangling by US, the damn few that have even a remote memory of what it was to be an American, and Free.

They've voted us into this shit.

We're gonna have to shoot our way OUT of it.

And with that, and a six am alarm, I'm to the snoozer.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 02:13 AM (QzJWU)

670 Goodnight Jim!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 02:13 AM (L2ZTs)

671 The Nazis played it wrong. Stalin was popular in the sense that he managed to murder anyone who disagreed with him and make other people take the credit for that.

So, you had an insanely top down control system. Also remember the army had just been purged, so there were not a lot of experienced commanders all the way down to the sergeant level. You take out the head of that top down system, and the system has no real way to organize against you. If you do not care about massacring the populace, then it becomes a mop up operation.

Stalin also managed (if you want to use that word) a gigantic ethnic quilt that he used various means to suppress (exile to the east, purge, etc.) If you had exploited that, and also cut the head of the top down admin off, then it becomes a huge mess.

Barbarossa was ineptly carried out, but the supposition of how the Soviet military would be able to react to a gigantic surprise attack was not one of the mistakes made.

They attacked too late in the year. This caused not just a problem with the weather (and the winter of '41/'42 was one of the worst in memory.) It also caused an issue with supply and attire for the army.

They did not use the ethnic grievances against the Soviets to the extent they should have. Also, they got bogged down in their own petty stupid racial idiocies before the job was done.

Plus, there is a lot of widespread stupidity by the Nazis (mostly Hitler) in how they carried the war out. They kept getting their army- which was based on mobility, bogged down in either sieges (Leningrad) or punishing street to street fights of no value beyond propaganda (Stalingrad) or gigantic static fights that did not allow the generals there to do what they did best (Kursk.)




Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:14 AM (ycWCI)

672 ...
Plus, there is a lot of widespread stupidity by the Nazis (mostly Hitler) in how they carried the war out. They kept getting their army- which was based on mobility, bogged down in either sieges (Leningrad) or punishing street to street fights of no value beyond propaganda (Stalingrad) or gigantic static fights that did not allow the generals there to do what they did best (Kursk.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:14 AM (ycWCI)



A mostly horse and carriage drawn force, said to depend on "mobility".

The Blitzkrieg was a tiny mechanized force, followed closely by horses and marching troops.

But for the horses, the German troops in the East would have starved quite a bit sooner.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


/hasta la nite nite, Horde!

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 02:18 AM (QzJWU)

673 Goodnight Jim!

I gotta go too. Thanks for the great chat tonight, everyone. I learned stuff! :-)

And one more reminder, just one more week 'til the Southern California Moron Meetup. By all means, feel free to email me for more details.

2019SoCalMoMee@gmail.com

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2019 02:20 AM (L2ZTs)

674 Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2019 02:18 AM (QzJWU)

Granted, and maneuver is probably the better way to describe it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:21 AM (ycWCI)

675 Night Jim and qdpsteve.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:21 AM (ycWCI)

676 Germany did not anticipate going much beyond Moscow. The colonization was to be focused in Ukraine and southern Russia - rich agricultural areas. The Russians to be left everything to the east.


Unlikely fall of Moscow would have, in itself, led to defeat. A lot of industry and many central govt. functions had already been evacuated by December '41 [the latter to Kuibyshev].


Stalin, at the last moment [his special train was waiting at the station] decided to stay [October]. This may have helped stabilize the situation - Zhukov's organization of the defense, the Germans reaching their exhaustion point, and the weather took care of the rest.


"in itself" - but defeat at Moscow might have opened up other possibilities pertinent to the overall outcome - such as Japan deciding to junk the neutrality pact and attack in the east. It was probably considered in summer '42, when the Germans were on their 2nd big romp, to the east/southeast. While they were busy with conquest of the southern resource region after Pearl Harbor, if Moscow fell, it's possible the Kwantung Army in Manchukuo [very strong, not the hollowed out shell it became later] might have been used to nibble off Soviet territory in the Far East.


Soviet forces had been moved from the east to help at Moscow - they played a key role in the successful defense - and the Soviets themselves recognized the grave threat Japanese forces posed to the Trans-Siberian Railroad [a lot of it close to the un- or lightly defended frontier].


So while a stretch, the fall of Moscow changing Japanese behavior, in a way greatly increasing pressure on the Soviets [including loss of the Pacific Lend-Lease pipeline], is plausible.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:22 AM (QDnY+)

677 Soviet forces had been moved from the east to help at Moscow - they played a key role in the successful defense - and the Soviets themselves recognized the grave threat Japanese forces posed to the Trans-Siberian Railroad [a lot of it close to the un- or lightly defended frontier].


So while a stretch, the fall of Moscow changing Japanese behavior, in a way greatly increasing pressure on the Soviets [including loss of the Pacific Lend-Lease pipeline], is plausible.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:22 AM (QDnY+)

Can you think of a bigger military what if scenario in history with bigger long range implications? I think this is why it is so fascinating.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:25 AM (ycWCI)

678 And if you get Moscow, how much more do you need? IIRC, and I could be wrong, Moscow was the heart of the entire Soviet railway network:

https://tinyurl.com/y2zwaf48

What do the soviets do about anything west of Moscow if they lose Moscow?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:28 AM (ycWCI)

679 Aetius, it certainly is among the biggest/best of the "what ifs", if not THE biggest/best.


And that the Germans had reached their classical exhaustion points, in both '41 and '42, seems not sufficiently recognized. In terms of offensive operations [weather etc all play into it, but that's the point of the classical concept of exhaustion point]. And their enemy was so vast, and so resourceful in ways that mattered ..... the odds were always very long, and negative.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:33 AM (QDnY+)

680 And their enemy was so vast, and so resourceful in ways that mattered ..... the odds were always very long, and negative.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:33 AM (QDnY+)

Agreed. And borne out by history. However, I think there was no better situation that could have been present. A brittle, completely top down state where everyone was afraid to do anything without it being under orders from Stalin.

It is still a long shot, and I am not sure anyone would do it unless it was a gotta type situation, but I still think it would be doable.

Think about the flip side. If Stalin is getting ready to invade, what is the plan to repel?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 18, 2019 02:37 AM (ycWCI)

681 As I said Aetius, to the extent any plans, even notional, about expansion in the east were documented, they didn't involve going beyond Moscow. The slavs were to be left to the east - and up to 3O million of them expelled, force-worked to death, or simply killed, to create elbow room in the conquered agricultural areas, where German warrior/farmers would produce crops and police the frontier.


Losing Moscow complicates Russian logistics, of course. But it probably doesn't change much in the long run, as long as Lend-Lease and Caucasus oil remain the same. The enormous mobilization and the industrial effort did not depend on holding Moscow.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:39 AM (QDnY+)

682 Don't think the USSR was that brittle, actually. The chaotic defeats of '41 were due to basics - lack of equipment, lack of training, lack of personnel, lack of leadership capacity in the officer corps. The few decent leaders [Rokossovsky's an example] actually had some impact amidst the general defeat.


I find very plausible the views of veterans who said that Order No. 227 ["not one step back"] was very helpful in stabilizing things in '42, culminating in the Stalingrad debacle - it was aimed at the officers much more than the men. But the men had themselves recognized that endless retreat was simply unacceptable. Fighting literally for your home territory obviously introduces motivation that transcends even the surreal hellish madness of Stalin's USSR.


There was a single, day or two-long breakdown of order in Moscow in October '41. Really the only thing like it Soviet history up to the end times near '91. Portraits and party literature tossed into the streets, open contempt for the state - completely unthinkable things. But it fizzled quickly. When it became known Stalin was staying, and with the Germans at the gates, there was no question of such a thing happening again.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:53 AM (QDnY+)

683 Y'all will have to continue to re-fight the eastern front without me - off to see what happened when the final B-29 raid of the war reached its target in northern Honshu, and how the related Tokyo blackout supposedly contributed to the failure of the coup against the Emperor and his surrender decision/address.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 02:56 AM (QDnY+)

684 Wow, this ONT is above average. Well done even.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at August 18, 2019 03:05 AM (1L9V9)

685
WW2 ... Germans take Moscow ... etc ...

If you search YouTube for the Tik" channel:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=TIK

you will find several (long) videos on the WW2 Eastern Front, and discussions of several facets of the conflict.

He makes the argument that lack of petroleum essentially forced the German loss, that the Germans needed to win Real Quick or they would lose.

He also points out that the German Army was unsupplyable once units were far enough east (Smolensk-Kharkov, or some-such line; I forget exactly what he says).

The combination of no paved roads and not-even-remotely-enough motor transport (which needed petroleum), and no alternatives (the Soviet rail system was a different gauge, and since much of it had been destroyed anyway, thousands of miles would have to be built), meant that combat operations could not be sustained, no bullets, fuel, etc.

The Soviets did not face the supply problems when they moved west, as they had 500,000 US Lend-Lease trucks.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 18, 2019 03:09 AM (FlRtG)

686 Humm. couldn't sleep. Used some vaporub and ate some soft boiled eggs. It's deep on the ont tonight.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:32 AM (BLFnH)

687 and dead. Maybe try sleep again.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2019 03:37 AM (BLFnH)

688 and dead. Maybe try sleep again.
Posted by: Infidel

...perchance to dream....

Posted by: Miklos, East of the Rockies at August 18, 2019 03:56 AM (QzkSJ)

689 I think Mis Hum is demonstrating intolerance toward those of us who think underwear has more than a one-day groin life. What a racist!

Posted by: Brennan at August 18, 2019 04:19 AM (ogaHx)

690
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 18, 2019 04:44 AM (KCxzN)

691 My family heritage is entwined with the oilfields of Western PA.

My Dad used to tell me with pride that the motor oil we sent to the Russians in WW2 was largely unrecognized, major factor in the outcome. The tanks, trucks and planes needed to perform well in horrible conditions and that the American oil industry was able to peovide a superior probuct in quantities enough to share.

Stepping back from all the talk, it is interesting (for me) to note that considering so much of the war was mechanized at that point in time, how something as mundane as motor oil could be a vital consideration.

Posted by: pawn at August 18, 2019 04:56 AM (PveK5)

692

Was it over when Soviet B-29's nuked the ball bearing plants north of Tokyo? Hell No!

Posted by: Rockery Hudpeck at August 18, 2019 05:04 AM (qul7b)

693 "beta cuck 4 life"

A t-shirt an ANTIFA punk was wearing at Portland's protest.

While wielding an 'assault hammer' smashing windows.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at August 18, 2019 05:08 AM (DB16e)

694 My Dad used to tell me with pride that the motor oil we sent to the Russians in WW2 was largely unrecognized, major factor in the outcome.


Products like Gumout and Seafoam were developed to ensure that vehicles were operable when delivered.

Posted by: Miklos, still East of the Rockies at August 18, 2019 05:11 AM (QzkSJ)

695 Back in the day, when I was oh 19 or 20, I told my dad "I'm going to Black's Beach." He replied "If you see a gal with three breasts, let me know." At the time there was no staircase to get down to the beach from the Torrey Pines Glider Port. There was a road down but parking in the residential neighborhood above was problematic. At low tide, however it is possible to walk to it from La Jolla Shores to the south.
So I leave bikini clad goddesses at La Jolla Shores and walk north. And when I get there I find the 40-something professor types. I didn't stay long. (SWIDT?) And when I got back to the regular beach with all those sweet sweet beautiful girls, I knew that Black's Beach held no attraction for me.


Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 05:20 AM (I5SAg)

696 Hilarious and excellent content, wonderful day at AOS.

Posted by: Summer of Love at August 18, 2019 05:28 AM (FJrl0)

697 Here is a new feature. The text I write persists.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 05:38 AM (I5SAg)

698 Maybe not.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 05:38 AM (I5SAg)

699
The cyclist and the bus -- what an oblivious dork

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 18, 2019 05:41 AM (dyaak)

700 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 05:45 AM (BbGew)

701
g'mornin', Skip

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 18, 2019 05:50 AM (KCxzN)

702 #160 so envious and some day......

Posted by: Summer of Love at August 18, 2019 05:50 AM (FJrl0)

703 Thought it was Monday when I first got up

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 05:52 AM (BbGew)

704 Last!

Posted by: fluffy at August 18, 2019 05:59 AM (dCRRg)

705 Or not

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 06:00 AM (BbGew)

706 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 06:08 AM (arJlL)

707 https://tinyurl.com/yy2h3vbo

Illinois keeps coming up with good reasons to make me glad I

Posted by: doomed at August 18, 2019 06:12 AM (oS0xz)

708 Glad I left.

Posted by: doomed at August 18, 2019 06:12 AM (oS0xz)

709 "It's the kind of Bill you can get behind."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 06:22 AM (I5SAg)

710 In this case, it's the kind of Bill you have to bend over for.

Posted by: doomed at August 18, 2019 06:23 AM (oS0xz)

711 At Skidmarks nudist club undie changing is optional.Their dingle-berry spa is to die for and the Tucks Bar just wipes all others in the area.

Hat tip to Ace.

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 07:38 AM (5IHGB)

712 All guys who don't get married are great guys whom everybody thinks are cool? I don't think so. Anymore than all married guys are great guys whom everybody thinks are cool.Or all unmarried women are cool. So Prince lived solely for pleasure? O.K..

Yes, I get it's a joke. I think "Legally sufficient" is divorced or going through a divorce.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 08:49 AM (+0VWg)

713 What's the point of dying with lots of money in the bank?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2019 08:54 AM (+0VWg)

714 Why the hell is this Prince eating spam?

Posted by: Mattsky at August 18, 2019 01:25 PM (pEYms)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 08-17-2019 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Ingmar Bergman

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Ingmar Bergman was one of the greatest of filmmakers. He stands next to the likes of Orson Welles, John Ford, Alfred Hitchcock, Charlie Chaplin, Stanley Kubrick, Akira Kurosawa, and Jean Renoir as the titans of the art form. He made some of the most iconic images in cinema of the 20th century, and now I'm going to force you people to talk about him.


As a Man

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Born to a Lutheran minister, Bergman was raised in a strictly religious household. He chaffed under the rules of the house (which were quite strict) as well as at school. He entered the world of theater in college and never really left. He started working for the Swedish film industry as a writer of studio melodramas and soon began to direct them. He reached international acclaim in the mid 1950s and eventually retired from filmmaking in the 1980s.

He was married five times, had numerous affairs with his actresses, and fathered nine children. He called himself an inattentive father and carried an aversion to children his whole life. He struggled with the idea of God and His relationship to Bergman for decades, eventually finding some level of answer in the 1960s. He was, by all accounts, a warm and joyful man. His sets were often described as places of great fun and laughter, even on movies that are considered dour. He died in 2007 at the age of 89.


As a Filmmaker

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There are really three, largely distinct, periods in Bergman's career. The first could be called the Studio Period, where he made studio melodramas. The second could be called the God Period where he was obsessed with questions related to the Almighty, in particular his silence towards Bergman. The third could be called the Woman Period (though most of his films across his whole career dealt with women primarily) where he dug deeply into women's psyches and their relationships to