The Democrats: The Party Of The Wealthy!

There is a lazy assumption among the media (wow...that never happens!) that the Republican Party is in its essence for the wealthy, and the Democrat Party is for the little man...the real people of America.

But anyone who has been paying attention has realized by now that the concentration of wealth in the pure blue cities and in the tech sector is overwhelmingly leftist.

Dem Dot Coms vs. Trump's Soldiers and Steelworkers

Providing free health care for illegal aliens at taxpayer expense may not be very popular nationwide, but is commonplace in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle and Boston. Gun control is a loser nationwide, but a sure thing in the big blue cities. Even proposals to take away private health plans, allow rapists and terrorists to vote from prison, and open the border pick up more support there.

The 2020 Democrats aren’t speaking to Americans as a whole. Instead they’re addressing wealthy donors from 6 major cities, and some of their satellite areas, whose money they need to be able to buy teams, ads and consultants to help them win in places like New Hampshire and Iowa.

New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles show up in the top 5 donor cities for most of the top 2020 candidates, including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Pete Buttigieg. Boston shows up in the top 10, not only for Bernie and Warren, but for Kamala and Buttigieg. Seattle appears in the top 10 for Bernie, Warren, and Buttigieg. Washington D.C. features in the top 10 for Bernie, Booker, Warren, Kamala, and Buttigieg. And the rest of America doesn’t really matter.

The Republican Party in my dreams and fantasies would be hammering the Democrats as out-of-touch billionaires who are insulated from financial and social upheaval because they have been stealing from real Americans for years. But that Republican Party does not exist. President Trump does make clear distinctions, like his marvelous criticisms of the four whores of the apocalypse, but without the support of his party he is a voice in the wilderness.

Imagine a concerted effort to demonize the mega-wealthy Democrat donor class. Many of them are wealthier than Trump, so the ads would practically write themselves...

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1 Firstest?

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:30 PM (BbGew)

2 Whoo hoo.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:30 PM (BbGew)

3 And the Media always pins the wealthy donors as Republicans.

Corgis dutifully called btw

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:33 PM (BbGew)

4 But that Republican Party does not exist.

No shit.

GOP vs DNC is rarely a binary choice anymore, just facets of the UniParty.

Posted by: Stealth Poster at July 21, 2019 02:33 PM (sCVDB)

5 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2019 02:34 PM (MasTK)

6 Benjamin Boyce talks with James Lindsay

https://youtu.be/TFBWyCcwZK4

They look at the university and political correctness

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 21, 2019 02:34 PM (LxTcq)

7 If a nood was yelled in a forest, would anyone hear it?

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:34 PM (BbGew)

8 Apparently no...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 21, 2019 02:37 PM (UUBmN)

9 We tried to tell ya decades ago.

It's the suits vs the dungarees.

But would you listen?

NooOOOoooo

Posted by: SNL at July 21, 2019 02:38 PM (27q/y)

10 Shakin the bush, boss.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:38 PM (BLFnH)

11 Make it rain!

Posted by: Tiffini in Woodland Hills at July 21, 2019 02:39 PM (35XGF)

12 While there is a break in the action, guess I will go water the garden.
At least the rain barrel is full.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:39 PM (BbGew)

13 The New Oligarchs

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

14 I hate actors/ entertainers that spout retarded political statements. I hate even more foreign actors / entertainers that spout retarded statements on American politics.

Orlando Bloom and Justin Bieber need to stay in their lane.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:40 PM (2DOZq)

15 The Big Lie. It's gotta work better than the truth.

Posted by: klaftern at July 21, 2019 02:41 PM (RuIsu)

16 The New Oligarchs
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 02:40 PM (NWiLs)


Perfectly concise. Now, good luck convincing the "GOP good, DNC bad" crowd.

Posted by: Stealth Poster at July 21, 2019 02:41 PM (sCVDB)

17 so the ads would practically write themselves...

They'll have to, because the GOPe sure as hell won't.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 02:41 PM (sdi6R)

18 The Republican Party, as a defense against the communists, is a nearly worthless pile of shit. I say nearly because they do hold the Senate and are shoving through Judges as fast as possible.

When we finally have to turn them into the new Whig party, the new mascot must be a Honey Badger.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 21, 2019 02:42 PM (HumTc)

19 It's also the automotive engineers vs the shadetrees.

3 hours to yank a flippin starter.

Sons 'o' bitchez must pay.

Posted by: SNL at July 21, 2019 02:42 PM (27q/y)

20 Can't wait to see the C-130 fly into town this week!

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:43 PM (BLFnH)

21 But Tax cuts seems to be the argument.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2019 02:43 PM (ycWCI)

22 The Democrats have always been the party of evil, wealthy people.

The Republicans have always been the party of lazy, wealthy people.

Two shitty tastes that taste even shittier together.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 02:44 PM (Z+IKu)

23 Cruz thinks working with AOC is a positive. I keep losing more and more respect for him as time goes on.

It's so true that everyone will eventually disappoint you.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:45 PM (2DOZq)

24 And here comes the rain finally. Sky looked decidedly odd when I just woke up. Not green, had that under lit heavy cloud thing going on, like at twilight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2019 02:47 PM (ycWCI)

25 eaa starts today. warbirds flying around right now. going to be a great week.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 21, 2019 02:47 PM (KP5rU)

26 But Tax cuts seems to be the argument.

But the increase in tariffs and inflation reduce if not eliminate that benefit.


Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:47 PM (lD3vL)

27 23 Cruz thinks working with AOC is a positive. I keep losing more and more respect for him as time goes on.

It's so true that everyone will eventually disappoint you.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:45 PM (2DOZq)


Cruz working with AOC helps keep her face in the forefront.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 02:48 PM (jQI/A)

28 Cruz working with AOC helps keep her face in the forefront.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 02:48 PM (jQI/A)

It gives her some legitimacy. She deserves none.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:48 PM (2DOZq)

29 Cruz thinks working with AOC is a positive. I keep losing more and more respect for him as time goes on.

It's so true that everyone will eventually disappoint you.


As I keep saying, "The quickest way to demon possession is to relocate to Washington DC".

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:48 PM (lD3vL)

30 Well, Cruz barely won reelection in Texas. He almost got knocked off by a guy who nationally is an asterisk. So it's not like Cruz is a political genius.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 21, 2019 02:50 PM (H5knJ)

31 26 But Tax cuts seems to be the argument.

But the increase in tariffs and inflation reduce if not eliminate that benefit.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:47 PM (lD3vL)

I did not say the argument had merit. Or that most rich seem to find a way to shield themselves from paying taxes anyway.

Now my phone goes off: 'Flash Flood Warning!' really, it is raining heavily and there might be flooding? How does weather work?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2019 02:50 PM (ycWCI)

32 Well, Cruz barely won reelection in Texas. He almost got knocked off by a guy who nationally is an asterisk. So it's not like Cruz is a political genius.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls


Goldman Sachs anyone?

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:51 PM (BLFnH)

33 "dot Coms" -- heh!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 02:52 PM (kQs4Y)

34 Trump does make clear distinctions, like his marvelous criticisms of the
four whores of the apocalypse, but without the support of his party he
is a voice in the wilderness.


It's a pretty powerful voice, nonetheless.

Posted by: pep at July 21, 2019 02:53 PM (T6t7i)

35 Now my phone goes off: 'Flash Flood Warning!' really, it is raining heavily and there might be flooding? How does weather work?!





Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2019 02:50 PM (ycWCI)

++++I set my phone to indicate only "Presidential Alerts" - I live on the edge.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 21, 2019 02:54 PM (9+jnX)

36 When you wrote "four whores of the apocalypse" those four got all pissed off out of the blue.

Posted by: torabora at July 21, 2019 02:55 PM (OqSi4)

37 Also, I think what often appears to be corruption in the GOP is really cowardice. They're afraid to do something new, because it might cost them their seat. They prefer to hang back, and let the (very rare) PDTs of the world blaze a trail, which they will then follow and claim as their own (provided it all goes well).

Profiles in courage they are not.

Posted by: pep at July 21, 2019 02:56 PM (T6t7i)

38 C-130 rides are a hoot

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:57 PM (BbGew)

Oh Goody! Another Debt-Busting Budget Deal, This Time Courtesy Of The Usual Suspects: Everyone In DC

This is one of the things that worried me about President Trump; his comfort with huge amounts of debt. That's the way real estate works, and he was better than most at playing the game. At first I entertained the naive hope that with a booming economy and even a cursory attempt at budget control we would be able to grow our way out of the spiraling deficits that have become the new normal.

Clearly that isn't going to happen: Hey...nobody said I was smart.

'Indistinguishable from Democrats': Daniel Horowitz tells Mark Levin what's behind Republicans' debt-exploding budget deal

Horowitz explained that the current spending levels are the result of the budget deals that congressional Republicans cut during the last session of Congress, “and now they’re looking for a repeat performance” in the current spending debate. They appear ready to hand Speaker Nancy Pelosi a debt-exploding deal that suspends the debt limit, busts spending caps, and “give away the president’s leverage on the border.”
Read the article...it's the usual gang of craven and shortsighted politicians who simply don't care about the future financial health of the country. Government spending has become so ridiculous that I wonder whether they are still trying to buy votes! How many voters actually pull the lever for the incumbent because he voted for some pork? Spending is out of control on all fronts, so how do people recognize directed spending vs. the background abomination that is the federal budget?

It reminds me of watching a chain smoker; lighting one cigarette from the stub of the previous one, never enjoying it but driven by his addiction to the process.

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Posted by: Big Star at July 21, 2019 12:16 PM (nb8+g)

2 The inevitability of the debt crash.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at July 21, 2019 12:16 PM (l7Kbv)

3 th

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at July 21, 2019 12:20 PM (BqBId)

4 IN regards to the weather this past week: I think the great 20th Century Philosopher Beavis said it best when he said "Butthead this SUCKS, Make it STOP"

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at July 21, 2019 12:20 PM (BqBId)

5 I can't blame Trump for this. Republicans have been spending like Democrats for a long time. They just have different priorities and pet constituencies.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 12:22 PM (sdi6R)

6 This subject is why I wonder why we have Federal Taxes. What's the point when we finance most of the budget anyway? I know that politicos use taxes and subsidies as a way to control behavior, but in the aggregate if debt doesn't matter neither should revenue.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (r+sAi)

7 It's OK we'll just print more money!!
- AOC

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (FiUMj)

8 The Romans used decimation to put some backbone into troops, and Sulla used proscription to rally the lazy self-indulgent upper classes.

Are the lessons of Rome applicable here?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee in hand at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (cyuo5)

9

Hey, it worked for Zimbabwe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

10 Now I want a Cigarette.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:24 PM (yE4ie)

11 Once you hit DC, whatever your good intentions are, you get sucked into other people's money spending.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 12:25 PM (BbGew)

12 Now I want a Cigarette.
That'll be 4 bitcoins.

Posted by: Inflation Master at July 21, 2019 12:25 PM (r+sAi)

13 First line in the new Federal Budget should be a Remittance Tax of 95%.

Followed by about 50 lines of Welfare Reform.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:26 PM (yE4ie)

14 Now I want a Cigarette.


Running drugs?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 12:26 PM (fuK7c)

15 >>Once you hit DC, whatever your good intentions are, you get sucked into other people's money spending.


You can't take your cut of Zero Dollars Spent.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:27 PM (yE4ie)

16 Part of the problem I think is we've had people screaming about the debt for 30 years. Ross Perot got 20% of the vote twice on the matter. People kind of shrug their shoulders now. And anyone who points out that the debt situation is unsustainable is tuned out by the masses because they've been hearing about a debt bomb all their lives and it has never happened.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:27 PM (FiUMj)

17 Meh, the debt is never going to decrease, and no one outside of a small percentage of white men - whom no one is going to listen to - are ever going to ask for government spending to decrease, or even to stop *increasing* quite so fast.

Unfunded liabilities will eventually become never-paid-out "we took the liberty of bullshitting you" non-liabilities, and the tears will be delicious.

The only question is which factor breaks up the US first: financial collapse, or demographic balkanization. Either way, figure 15 years, maybe 20 tops. Possibly much less.

Posted by: John Bradley at July 21, 2019 12:29 PM (2ZZVu)

18 "How many voters actually pull the lever for the incumbent because he voted for some pork?"

There must be something to it, since many politicians have made huge careers out of it.

Sure as hell voters will vote for the other guy if the first guy cuts the pork that's already there.

Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:29 PM (hNTtn)

19 5 I can't blame Trump for this. Republicans have been spending like Democrats for a long time. They just have different priorities and pet constituencies.
..

Yep.

It's yet another thing the GOPe lies about.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:29 PM (MAstk)

20 My one small thought about the deficit/national debt is that it will require something like "the military base closing commission" to address the problem. Remember that?

It took a bipartisan buy-in, & delegation of Congressional authority to the commission, to make VERY unpopular decisions. Once the commission made its decisions to close military bases, Congress could've overridden the commission, but did not.

To do something like that again, only on a vastly bigger scale, a crisis would probably be a necessary condition precedent.

Posted by: mnw at July 21, 2019 12:29 PM (Cssks)

21 If interest rates ever go up, hoo boy. Of course Teh Fed has a large amount of control of this, until it doesn't.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 12:30 PM (r+sAi)

22 How many voters actually pull the lever for the incumbent because he voted for some pork?
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It worked for Robert Byrd. I'm not sure how many are "craven and shortsighted". Many are doing what they went to Washington to do. And they get praised for "governing" and "doing the people's business" and crap like that.

Of course, there are turncoats, too. Paul Ryan first arose as someone who would fight it. That worked great, didn't it? In a sense, we're better off with McTurtle, who at least knows what he's doing.

The best thing we could do is adopt the Shirley Jackson solution. An annual lottery of the 535 members of the two houses. The one chosen will be stoned by taxpayers on April 15th, every year. Might not actually fix anything, but it'd be fun.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (VaN/j)

23 P.S. I think people will wake up when Social Security benefits start being cut. And that's no surprise: every letter I've ever gotten from Social Security says right up front in the boilerplate: "These benefits are no guarantee of future benefits." They have the right to cut them if they think it's necessary, and say as much.

Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (hNTtn)

24 >>If interest rates ever go up, hoo boy.


If they don't, this whole 'recovery' is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (yE4ie)

25 the only way to reduce debt is to attack entitlements. they won't. trump campaigned on not touching soc. sec. & medicare and most likely would have lost had he intended otherwise.

i gave up on being a fiscal hawk back in the bush II years.

i read somewhere that servicing the debt is already in the hundreds of billions and will reach a trillion in around a decade. something like that.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 12:32 PM (Pg+x7)

26 18 "How many voters actually pull the lever for the incumbent because he voted for some pork?"

There must be something to it, since many politicians have made huge careers out of it.

Sure as hell voters will vote for the other guy if the first guy cuts the pork that's already there.
Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:29 PM (hNTtn)

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There is an air force base in by district. The last 2 election cycles all the incumbent's ads mentioned how hard she fought to keep the base open. And in 2018 the challenger to the incumbent was a state legislator whose ads all mentioned how much money she got to her district from the state.

Pork wins elections, no doubt about it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:32 PM (FiUMj)

27 The Fed is going to cut rates at the next meeting.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:32 PM (MAstk)

28 Painting of the Horde.

https://bit.ly/2JRgB66

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 12:32 PM (+y/Ru)

29 Clinton admin. guaranteeed that anyone under the age of 30 (in 1992-4 or so, I forget) was NOT going to receive their benefits.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:33 PM (yE4ie)

30 8 The Romans used decimation to put some backbone into troops, and Sulla used proscription to rally the lazy self-indulgent upper classes.

Are the lessons of Rome applicable here?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee in hand at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (cyuo5)
________

You and I (#22) are on the same page here.

I'm not letting Trump off the hook entirely. He's not the ultimate cause, but he DID promise he wouldn't let it happen again. He needs to at least offer some resistance.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:33 PM (VaN/j)

31 Now I want a Cigarette.
Running drugs?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 12:26 PM

Probably worse than that, loosies

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 12:34 PM (BbGew)

32 How many fingers am I holding up now, Winston?

I want the budget to go so far down the rabbit hole that they can never get it out of the red. I used to care about such things but my fellow Americans seem not to so fuck it. I want medicare and Social Security Ponzi for all, RV's and Harleys for all the old farts who still think they are teenagers and free kollege for all the utes in the Young Pioneers. Land of the Freebies and Home of the Broke Ass.

Serves us right for being so selfish, short sighted, stupid and voting for Santa Marx.

As the government ponzi check hits my checking account, I have won the battle against myself. I have learned to love Big Debt.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 12:34 PM (Z+IKu)

33 Clearly that isn't going to happen: Hey...nobody said I was smart.

Of course you are. No one bats 1.000.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:34 PM (YqDXo)

34 I'm not letting Trump off the hook entirely. He's not the ultimate cause, but he DID promise he wouldn't let it happen again. He needs to at least offer some resistance.
..

Then we have another worthless govt shutdown that T gets blamed for.

We saw this last winter. The Dems never get the blame. Then at some point the GOP caves and Pelosi gets what she wants anyways.

Lose-lose.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:35 PM (MAstk)

35 23 P.S. I think people will wake up when Social Security benefits start being cut. And that's no surprise: every letter I've ever gotten from Social Security says right up front in the boilerplate: "These benefits are no guarantee of future benefits." They have the right to cut them if they think it's necessary, and say as much.
Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (hNTtn)
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Not a problem. Soylent Gray is Boomers.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:35 PM (VaN/j)

36 Batman seduces Catwoman.

https://bit.ly/2Y7sUQG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 12:36 PM (+y/Ru)

37 The budget deficit & Social Security deficit are 2 different problems, & SSA is much easier to fix.

Posted by: mnw at July 21, 2019 12:36 PM (Cssks)

38 The debt will never be repaid. They go through the motions to try to convince as many people as possible that the financial system isnt smoke and mirrors -- but it is. One day the merry-go-round will stop, but it wont stop just in the USA, the whole world will be hit and the entire global economy will change. Congress will never stop it.

Posted by: Revenant at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (bD2Jh)

39 Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (hNTtn)


It's guaranteed they will take your money but not guaranteed they will give it back.

It's a safety-net!

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (MAstk)

40 BTW, my wife recently told me the original model for Catwoman was Hedy Lamarr. That beauty than which no greater can be conceived.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (VaN/j)

41 The Romans used decimation to put some backbone into troops, and Sulla used proscription to rally the lazy self-indulgent upper classes.

He also used it to raise cash, because those on the proscription lists were executed and forfeited their wealth to the state.

Say, anyone seen George Soros around?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM (YqDXo)

42 The conventional wisdom was that Congress would NEVER close all those military bases, but they did.

Posted by: mnw at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM (Cssks)

43 Posted by: Revenant at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (bD2Jh)

Yep.

We are running trillion dollar deficits with 3+% growth.

Insanity.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:39 PM (MAstk)

44 hedy lamarr?

julie newmar was something special. & also a genius.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 12:39 PM (Pg+x7)

45 ... (newmar invented and patented a kind of spanx back in the '70s).

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 12:40 PM (Pg+x7)

46 I agree this is a "defect" of Trump conservatism. He doesn't give a damn about spending.

I really don't think anything serious is going to be done until it's a real crisis.

I'll say this though, I don't think voters care about the issue and I think the debt can be kicked down the road for another generation or two and Trump realizes this and just wants to get reelected.

It's far more important Trump get reelected and appoint more judges than token reforms that maybe cut 1% off discretionary spending.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:41 PM (UfkIY)

47 23 P.S. I think people will wake up when Social Security benefits start being cut. And that's no surprise: every letter I've ever gotten from Social Security says right up front in the boilerplate: "These benefits are no guarantee of future benefits." They have the right to cut them if they think it's necessary, and say as much.

Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (hNTtn)


From what I've read, Social Security is fixable (raising the retirement age, means testing, etc.), but Medicare isn't. Medicare is unsustainable as it is today; "Medicare For All" would probably require a Third World standard of health care.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 12:41 PM (sdi6R)

48 debt for the future? Well one good point...I will be dead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2019 12:42 PM (85Gof)

49 Are the lessons of Rome applicable here?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee in hand at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (cyuo5)

Yeah. Rome fell.

Once you realize that in any country that has a debt based financial system you can never pay off the debt, you can come to the understanding that the entire purpose of the Federal Government and, now, the State Governments is to borrow more money into existence. The Romans did this, but they were able to go out an conquer other entities so they could just steal the interest from them. We're more "woke" than the Romans, so we just place the debt onto the peasants. The system will default some day. The scum in DC and your State Capitols are just trying to time it so they're no longer there when the SHTF. Maybe that's why we're seeing so many retirements?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2019 12:42 PM (m79Dg)

50 44 hedy lamarr?

julie newmar was something special. & also a genius.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 12:39 PM (Pg+x7)
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Hedy's #1, but Julie was special too. The very first Playboy I ever saw had a pictorial of her (she was much hotter than the centerfold.) One picture has remained with me, always.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:42 PM (VaN/j)

51 Obligatory:

That's Hedley!

Funny how that never gets old.


Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 21, 2019 12:42 PM (aurSP)

52 In this case, I think I'll practice the subtle art of not giving a f*ck.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 12:42 PM (H8QX8)

53 BTW, my wife recently told me the original model for Catwoman was Hedy Lamarr. That beauty than which no greater can be conceived.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (VaN/j)


And smart with it. She (with a co-inventor, IIRC) invented frequency-hopping as a way of preventing the jamming of torpedoes. The electronics of the time couldn't implement her invention, but frequency-hopping is used routinely now.

You'd have thought Hedda Hopper would have thought of it first...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:42 PM (YqDXo)

54 Think of the debt as refinancing a house in perpetuity. It will never be paid off.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:43 PM (FiUMj)

55 I forgot to mention that Hedy was apparently the model for the first comic book Catwoman. Long before it made it to a screen. Anyway, that's what my wife tells me.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (VaN/j)

56 The problem is that every time the Republicans "reform" taxes they crow about how many people they've taken off the tax rolls. Too many people in this country get from Uncle Sugar but don't contribute.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (xQfPr)

57 52 In this case, I think I'll practice the subtle art of not giving a f*ck.
..

That's my newly adopted position.

Although I do, greatly.

But *no one* will do what needs to be done.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (MAstk)

58 56 The problem is that every time the Republicans "reform" taxes they crow about how many people they've taken off the tax rolls. Too many people in this country get from Uncle Sugar but don't contribute.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (xQfPr)

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Dubya started this stupidity.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:45 PM (FiUMj)

59 Yay me!

I made delicious migas for brunch.


Satisfied tummies all around.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 12:45 PM (2EMYr)

60 The debt will never be repaid. They go through the motions to try to convince as many people as possible that the financial system isnt smoke and mirrors -- but it is. One day the merry-go-round will stop, but it wont stop just in the USA, the whole world will be hit and the entire global economy will change. Congress will never stop it.
Posted by: Revenant at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (bD2Jh)


The only way out, short of frank collapse: to inflate the bejesus out of the currency.

"OK, we owe you $10,000,000,000. Here ya go. That'll buy a loaf of bread now. I dunno, maybe two."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

61 And the Social Security withholding they have confiscated, without my permission, since I was 15? Lucky if I see a dime.

*spit*

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 12:46 PM (BLFnH)

62 From what I've read, Social Security is fixable (raising the retirement age, means testing, etc.), but Medicare isn't. Medicare is unsustainable as it is today; "Medicare For All" would probably require a Third World standard of health care.
Posted by: rickl

____________

Yea, Social Security could be fixed pretty easily, at least for everyone here to get their full benefits. It's probably going to be something both sides don't like, raise payroll tax cap and the age of eligibility. They also need to cut the disability nonsense.

MediCare is the big issue that needs real reforms, something like a voucher system

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:46 PM (UfkIY)

63 56 The problem is that every time the Republicans "reform" taxes they crow about how many people they've taken off the tax rolls. Too many people in this country get from Uncle Sugar but don't contribute.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (xQfPr)


Exactly! I remember seeing an article in the Bush 43 years that said that. So his tax cuts had the effect of ensuring that fewer voters even give a shit about taxes.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 12:47 PM (sdi6R)

64 The only way out, short of frank collapse: to inflate the bejesus out of the currency.

"OK, we owe you $10,000,000,000. Here ya go. That'll buy a loaf of bread now. I dunno, maybe two."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

______________

The thing is, most of the "debt" are entitlements you can't inflate away. Things like Social Security are tied to inflation rates.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:47 PM (UfkIY)

65 When I lived in Europe the leftists had some ridiculous pie-in-the-sky program (you're astonished, I know) and to be fair, a reportertte asked the leading leftist proponent how he'd pay for the program.

"Easy - we'll borrow the money!" he chirped, apparently not grasping the distinction between paying for the program and financing the program.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:48 PM (YqDXo)

66 Yea, Social Security could be fixed pretty easily, at least for everyone here to get their full benefits. It's probably going to be something both sides don't like, raise payroll tax cap and the age of eligibility. They also need to cut the disability nonsense.

___

Raise the cap without raising the benefits for those who pay more. Awesome!! But this will only affect rich old white guys so it's all good.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:49 PM (FiUMj)

67 Honestly, it's this kind of stupid shit that makes me think about investing in bitcoin.

And bitcoin is a literal nothing. Worse than the Great Tulip Balloon. At least, you got a snazzy garden outta that.

A round of "go fuck yourself"s for the members of Congress.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 12:49 PM (2EMYr)

68 Probably worse than that, loosies
Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 12:34 PM (BbGew)

Punishable by summary execution!

Posted by: NYPD at July 21, 2019 12:49 PM (NWiLs)

69 A nation that doesn't even have real budgets for its departments and agencies doesn't give a damn about deficits and debt.

The national debt? That ship has sailed son and it ain't ever coming back.

You might as well find something else to fret about.

This ain't it chief.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 12:50 PM (cknjq)

70 "OK, we owe you $10,000,000,000. Here ya go. That'll buy a loaf of bread now. I dunno, maybe two."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Zimbabwe bucks.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 12:50 PM (NWiLs)

71 The thing is, most of the "debt" are entitlements you can't inflate away. Things like Social Security are tied to inflation rates.
Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:47 PM (UfkIY)


That's true. Also, after a while, lenders get leery about lending money because of the inflation threat, since they don't want to be paid off in funny money, or if they will, they demand an exorbitant interest rate.

Cue "quantitative easing," where we lent ourselves money because the Chinese snapped their checkbook shut.

I like the idea of lending yourself money. Btw, I'm now a billionaire, as I loaned myself a billion dollars on some very generous terms.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:51 PM (YqDXo)

72 Remember when

that financial genius Paul Ryan, he with his 75 year plan to balance the budget, couldn't round up enough votes from fiscally conservative Repubs to pass the yearly spending bills so he gave the DEMS moar money than they asked for to get the bills passed with big Dem votes?

Cuz I do.

And Mitch ain't no better.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 21, 2019 12:51 PM (Z4rgH)

73 Zimbabwe bucks.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 12:50 PM (NWiLs)


Exactly. I used to have a zillion Zimbabwean dollar bill. I forget how many zeroes were on it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:52 PM (YqDXo)

74 Raise the cap without raising the benefits for those who pay more. Awesome!! But this will only affect rich old white guys so it's all good.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker

__________

Yea, pretty much.

It always has been a welfare program and not a real pension.

The people that contribute very little make out like gangbusters, the people that max it out get something like a 1% rate of return on their money.

The average American would probably retire with 7 figures if they could drop that money in the S&P500 instead.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:53 PM (UfkIY)

75 28 Painting of the Horde.

https://bit.ly/2JRgB66
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 12:32 PM

KINKS !!!

Posted by: Heirloominati at July 21, 2019 12:53 PM (hgEPl)

76 67 Honestly, it's this kind of stupid shit that makes me think about investing in bitcoin.

And bitcoin is a literal nothing. Worse than the Great Tulip Balloon. At least, you got a snazzy garden outta that.

A round of "go fuck yourself"s for the members of Congress.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 12:49 PM (2EMYr)


Much like the Democrats' risible notion of a trillion dollar coin. For my part I thought we should mint it, and use it to be welfare.

"Here ya go. Can we get change for the difference?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:53 PM (YqDXo)

77 Bernie calls for the electoral college to be abolished. Then . . .

David Burge
@iowahawkblog
Get your wife on it, she's good at bringing down colleges

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

78 use it to PAY welfare

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:54 PM (YqDXo)

79 The problem I have with Trump on this is he gets nothing for it. No wall, no final killing of obamacare, etc. Even PP continues to get funding.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 12:55 PM (r+sAi)

80 >>Bernie calls for the electoral college to be abolished.


Retarded Commie can't be bothered to read our founding documents and play by the rules set forth.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:56 PM (yE4ie)

81 Now here's the real pisser: we pay foreign aid to various shitholes countries. Where do we get the money? WE BORROW IT. Now why can't the shithole countries just borrow the money directly? Because they're shithole countries, and no one in his right mind would lend the contents of his handkerchief to them.

Maybe we should get Chelsea's hubby Mezvinsky on this. He thought Greek debt was going to be a brilliant financial play for his (now defunct) hedge fund. I hope that that was just a scheme to launder money for crooked Democrat politicians. I hate to think any higher primate was actually that stupid.

Then again, he DID marry Chelsea, so the jury is still out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:57 PM (YqDXo)

82 77 Bernie calls for the electoral college to be abolished.

___

Should be simple. Just takes 2/3 of congress and 3/4 of states.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 12:58 PM (FiUMj)

83 Oh, everybody's here.

Oh well, my last comment in the last thread fits in here.

Everyone is a Keynesian. When seen from that perspective, all of this starts to make sense.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:58 PM (cY3LT)

84 I still believe nobody gives a shit about shutdowns.

The first republican with teh balls to do it will be rewarded.

I mean really - does the rest of the country worry about non essential washington dc?

Posted by: Socialist Man at July 21, 2019 12:58 PM (7NSrk)

85 >>Now here's the real pisser: we pay foreign aid to various shitholes countries. Where do we get the money? WE BORROW IT. Now why can't the shithole countries just borrow the money directly? Because they're shithole countries, and no one in his right mind would lend the contents of his handkerchief to them.


Stop Redlining!

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (yE4ie)

86 Both Social Security and Medicare are welfare programs, if you reach the point where you receive more benefits than you paid in. Beyond that, they're pure welfare.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (sdi6R)

87 Honestly, it's this kind of stupid shit that makes me think about investing in bitcoin.

And bitcoin is a literal nothing. Worse than the Great Tulip Balloon. At least, you got a snazzy garden outta that.

A round of "go fuck yourself"s for the members of Congress.

Posted by: naturalfake

___________

I love the concept of bitcoin and no government involvement, but to me it's like paying money for a video game score.

If you really worry about this, buy physical gold. It will almost certainly be dead money in terms of growth, but even in a collapse I could see it preserving wealth.

I've just stopped worrying about it, I actually think fiscal issues are more easily solved than other bigger issues like a million illegals walking over here every year.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (UfkIY)

88 Who runs bartertown?!! won't actually be a meme someday.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:00 PM (r+sAi)

89 The only way out, short of frank collapse: to inflate the bejesus out of the currency.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

No, that's only the way your elected representatives prefer. They are more beholden to the private entities that finance the debt than they are to you. The only way out is to take back control of the government, hoping that the military and police forces don't decide to support the financiers (like the Soviet military), and repudiate the debt. This is the main reason they want to outlaw your right to bear arms. And arm bears.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2019 01:00 PM (m79Dg)

90 SS works like this

Pay in $10 get back $100

Pay in $25 get back $50

Pay in $50 get back $25

Pay in $100 get back $10

So basically a welfare program disguised as a pension plan.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:00 PM (FiUMj)

91 The fundamental problem: we've expanded the franchise MUCH MUCH too far. People who cannot handle their own finances, and who contribute f-all to the nation's, get a say in how the nation handles ITS finances. (Yeah, I'm looking at you, Peggy Joseph. Did Barack pay your bills from his stash? Did you learn anything when he didn't? I'm betting "no.")

THAT'S the fundamental problem. Hat tip to de Tocqueville. He called it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:00 PM (YqDXo)

92 I still believe nobody gives a shit about shutdowns.

The first republican with teh balls to do it will be rewarded.

I mean really - does the rest of the country worry about non essential washington dc?
Posted by: Socialist Man

_____________

I sort of agree, but I just know every Republican will eventually fold, so it just seems to accomplish nothing.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:01 PM (UfkIY)

93 Which perpetual motion machine stops first?

Posted by: klaftern at July 21, 2019 01:02 PM (RuIsu)

94 I mean really - does the rest of the country worry about non essential washington dc?
Posted by: Socialist Man at July 21, 2019 12:58 PM (7NSrk)

Ummmmmmm......Nope.

Lay all their asses off permanently.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 01:02 PM (Z+IKu)

95 I've just stopped worrying about it, I actually think fiscal issues are more easily solved than other bigger issues like a million illegals walking over here every year.
Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (UfkIY)

A million illegals walking over here every year is engineered by those that finance the debt to distract you from focusing on your slavery.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2019 01:03 PM (m79Dg)

96 86 Both Social Security and Medicare are welfare programs, if you reach the point where you receive more benefits than you paid in. Beyond that, they're pure welfare.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (sdi6R)


Include my bete noire, the earned income tax "credit," which is straight-up welfare. A credit is a cashless forgiveness of a future obligation. Getting cash from the Federal government is welfare, coming and going.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

97 A million illegals walking over here every year is engineered by those that finance the debt to distract you from focusing on your slavery.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

___________

I think if you get control of who's here, a lot falls into place.

A big reason why CA is in the shape it's in is because of who their residents are.

If the US never had an illegal immigration problem, my guess is most of these fiscal issues would be much less just because of the voter base.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (UfkIY)

98 It's OK we'll just print more money!!
- AOC


As self-evidently stupid as that is, it's an actual economic theory being taken seriously by actual economists. They've even given a a seriously Marxist sounding name: "Modern Monetary Theory." NPR has reported on it a couple of times. Apparently, the idea is that as long as the economy as a whole is growing and inflation is not too high, you can kick the can indefinitely. AFAIK, the theory doesn't say what happens if those conditions change.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (E94D/)

99 Man, 65, made fake bomb threat to get date with flight attendant
The Serbian man, who has not been named, wanted to keep the woman in the country longer after she refused a date with him.

. . . .

All 130 passengers and five crew members had to leave the aircraft while it was searched by a special police squad and sniffer dogs.

https://bit.ly/2M5Ak4z

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)

100 Stop Redlining!
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (yE4ie)


Exactly. Oooh, now you've done it.

The Reds and the bruthas would have us believe that banks won't loan money to the bruthas because they're racist.

We must know different bankers. The ones I know would loan money to Satan if they thought the loan would perform. It's not as though if they loan money in the ghetto that they have to marry their daughters off there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:06 PM (YqDXo)

101 Include my bete noire, the earned income tax "credit," which is straight-up welfare. A credit is a cashless forgiveness of a future obligation. Getting cash from the Federal government is welfare, coming and going.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

___________

And this was championed by conservatives like Milton Friedman as a way to avoid welfare.

My theory has been even if you only make $1 a year, at least some portion should be going to taxes just make people understand where the government gets its money.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:06 PM (UfkIY)

102 Then we should eliminate public unions. Why lay them off? They will get unemployment. Can't fire them because of union contracts. The whole thing has turned into a house of cards.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 01:06 PM (BLFnH)

103 77 Bernie calls for the electoral college to be abolished.

Once again, demonstrating his brave and original thinking. What a leader!

What a schmuck. My brother voted for him in 2016. He said it was best he'd ever felt about voting. I said, "have you ever listened to him? He's schmuck." End of conversation.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 01:07 PM (H8QX8)

104

David Atkins, who is the regional director of the California Democrat Party, tore into "rural white Americans" in a Twitter rant.

"You know who is not grateful enough? Rural white Americans," he said. "They are heavily subsidized, drowning in federal largesse, blessed with political affirmative action & overrepresentation, have all their bills paid by cities and blue states, but they whine and yell constantly."

https://tinyurl.com/y2olh29e

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 01:08 PM (aKsyK)

105 Irish guy just won the British Open played in Ireland (Northern) . First time in 68 years that British Open played in Ireland. Wonder why? /s

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:08 PM (2DOZq)

106 I think if you get control of who's here, a lot falls into place.

A big reason why CA is in the shape it's in is because of who their residents are.


Semi OT: we just this morning saw our first tent in our upscale coastal community. It begins. Grrrrr.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:08 PM (YqDXo)

107 blessed with political affirmative action

WTF?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:08 PM (YqDXo)

108 Medicare would maintain itself if they took the gathered funds out of the general fund and put the monies collected into its own untouchable account.

It's sustainability projects much further into the future.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:09 PM (x3tTl)

109 Burning time exchange rate:

BB/Pellet Penny
00 Buck Nickle
.22 Dime
9mm/38 Quarter
45acp/357/.223 2Bits
30-06/.308 Dollar

Bitcoin, you get shot for being a fool

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2019 01:09 PM (yYouH)

110 I mean really - does the rest of the country worry about non essential washington dc?

Posted by: Socialist Man at July 21, 2019 12:58 PM (7NSrk)



Ummmmmmm......Nope.



Lay all their asses off permanently.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 01:02 PM (Z+IKu)


THIS!!!! I know someone who works for a federal agency. He makes a yuge salary. He "works from home" every Monday and Friday. And working from home means taking his kids to movies, going out to eat and generally fucking around. He's job is a total waste of taxpayer money and I'm sure there are thousands just like that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 01:09 PM (6ooku)

111 We're living on borrowed money and borrowed time.


Now, it's just a race between financial collapse and cultural collapse. At this point, I'm betting con cultural collapse to win, so that will solve the debt problem.


You're welcome.



Posted by: McLurkerson at July 21, 2019 01:10 PM (7UCSd)

112 "You know who is not grateful enough? Rural white Americans," he said. "They are heavily subsidized, drowning in federal largesse, blessed with political affirmative action & overrepresentation, have all their bills paid by cities and blue states, but they whine and yell constantly."

-
Hey! At least we're house broken!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 01:10 PM (+y/Ru)

113 >>Semi OT: we just this morning saw our first tent in our upscale coastal community.


Unless it is made of Canvas, it'll go up fast.

Just a hint of flame and...

Poof!

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:10 PM (yE4ie)

114 Lay all their asses off permanently.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 01:02 PM (Z+IKu)

I had hopes Trump would prove to be that kind of radical reformist. My naivete.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 01:10 PM (H8QX8)

115 electoral college:

If OH passes the referendum this fall on "the national vote compact," & it might do so if the turnout is low enough, we will then be one micrometer away from abolishing the electoral college.

The left has shown real genius in flying this below the radar.

Posted by: mnw at July 21, 2019 01:11 PM (Cssks)

116 I don't understand the objection to conditioning voting on paying taxes (or having served in the military). If someone doesn't pay taxes, and hasn't served in the military, why should he have any say in our taxes are spent, or how the military is deployed?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:11 PM (YqDXo)

117 Rural white Americans put food on that douchebags table. But like all urban retards they think food just magically appears in the grocery stores.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:12 PM (2DOZq)

118 Semi OT: we just this morning saw our first tent in our upscale coastal community. It begins. Grrrrr.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:08 PM (YqDXo)

Yup. I hear them things sprout like mushrooms after a rainstorm.

Then comes the heartbreak of drum circles.

Gonna need some Slayer, you guys.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 21, 2019 01:12 PM (aurSP)

119
Here's my hope-

That Trump says..

"Well, I'm all for spending this money, but we have to be responsible.

So, I want a 10% cut in budgets plus 10% personnel cut across all federal departments effective immediately.

To make it fair, we'll begin with the most junior personnel.

Oh, and I get my wall."

That would be stab at fiscal responsibility and I think most people would go along with that.

Plus...BONUS! The 10% personnel cut of the most junior would almost certainly scoop most, if not all, of the Obama personnel out of the gov't.

Win win win.


But, I'm afraid, it's all just a beautiful dream.

A beautiful, beautiful dream.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 01:12 PM (2EMYr)

120 >>I don't understand the objection to conditioning voting on paying taxes (or having served in the military). If someone doesn't pay taxes, and hasn't served in the military, why should he have any say in our taxes are spent, or how the military is deployed?


You should only get the representation you pay for.

Pay Property Taxes - You get to Vote Local.
Pay Income Tax to the State - You get to Vote at the State level.
Pay Income Tax to the Feds - You get to Vote in the Federal Elections.


No Representation Without Taxation!

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:13 PM (yE4ie)

121 "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery."

~Charles DIckens

Can I get my economics degree now?

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:13 PM (sdi6R)

122 I don't understand the objection to conditioning voting on paying taxes (or having served in the military). If someone doesn't pay taxes, and hasn't served in the military, why should he have any say in our taxes are spent, or how the military is deployed?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:11 PM (YqDXo)

I agree. But we, the West, are so lost to this sort of severe common sense, there's no way.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 01:13 PM (H8QX8)

123 No Military exemptions, though.

You people trust the military too much.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:14 PM (yE4ie)

124 As self-evidently stupid as that is, it's an actual economic theory being taken seriously by actual economists. They've even given a a seriously Marxist sounding name: "Modern Monetary Theory." NPR has reported on it a couple of times. Apparently, the idea is that as long as the economy as a whole is growing and inflation is not too high, you can kick the can indefinitely. AFAIK, the theory doesn't say what happens if those conditions change.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (E94D/)


The economy does an occasional oopsie, and when it does, some of the haves will collapse entirely, many will see a noticeable drop in their overall wealth profile, and the rest will go on just as before, with at most a temporary inconvenience.

The have-nots, well, some of them will die miserable horrible deaths, and many of them will suffer catastrophic drops in their overall wealth and well-being, and some may join us in the sky chambers above, having learned how to game the system.

So it all works out.

When you die, you will be mourned by some, your death will be a welcome relief to others, and the vast majority of the world will go on as if nothing of any significance happened. Because it didn't.

This is the pervasive mindset of the rich and powerful who make most of the decisions as to which levers get pushed and pulled.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:15 PM (cY3LT)

125 Reason #342 Voting is not going to solve this problem.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2019 01:15 PM (EZebt)

126 A preponderance of people get their money from the government, be it entitlements, financial assistance, direct government employment, government contracting or providing services that are paid for by the government.

This is why the system can and never will work at this point,

I can't pay a government worker $100, tax back $30 of it and continue to pay the $100 again.

The ratio is now, and has been for a while, such that the earnings of the private sector are no longer sufficient to bridge the gap to overcome this.

In my estimation, you need 75% of the country operating in a private economy free from government compensation in order to tax creates wealth enough to fund the other 25% employed in the public sector.

This will never happen. Ever.

So the question becomes: Is there ever a maximum borrowing limit for the federal government?

That answer is no.

So then the next question is: What happens when the balance sheets are such that the rules of accounting no longer apply?

I don't know, but I suspect it will be chaotic when the illusion of fiat currency as having any intrinsic value is broken.

I think many states are already banking on that outcome. States with huge debt loads are purchasing infrastructure at incredible levels ahead of an impending dollar crash, at which point their debt will mean nothing, but the infrastructure acquisition will already be realized.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 01:16 PM (48XXE)

127 I do think people like Ron Paul were unfairly dismissed by conservatives when he would talk about reforming the Federal Reserve.

A lot of our spending problems is a FED that basically hands out the credit cards. if you could put the brakes there, a lot would be fixes.

Problem is, people don't that to happen on both sides of the aisle and it probably would have some major short term pain economically.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:16 PM (UfkIY)

128 David Atkins, who is the regional director of the
California Democrat Party, tore into "rural white Americans" in a
Twitter rant.



"You know who is not grateful enough? Rural white Americans," he
said. "They are heavily subsidized, drowning in federal largesse,
blessed with political affirmative action overrepresentation, have
all their bills paid by cities and blue states, but they whine and yell
constantly."



https://tinyurl.com/y2olh29e

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 01:08 PM (aKsyK)


The left keeps trotting out that bullshit and that red states get the most welfare. Because the south and west sides of Chicago are so self-sufficient.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 01:17 PM (6ooku)

129 99 Man, 65, made fake bomb threat to get date with flight attendant
The Serbian man, who has not been named, wanted to keep the woman in the country longer after she refused a date with him.

. . . .

All 130 passengers and five crew members had to leave the aircraft while it was searched by a special police squad and sniffer dogs.

https://bit.ly/2M5Ak4z

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)


I bet that impressed the hell out of her.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:18 PM (sdi6R)

130 I think if you get control of who's here, a lot falls into place.

A big reason why CA is in the shape it's in is because of who their residents are.

If the US never had an illegal immigration problem, my guess is most of these fiscal issues would be much less just because of the voter base.
Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (UfkIY)

You mean like the US did prior to the 21st century? Oh, wait, we didn't do that when we had an insignificant illegal immigration problem, did we?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2019 01:18 PM (m79Dg)

131 112 "You know who is not grateful enough? Rural white Americans," he said. "They are heavily subsidized, drowning in federal largesse, blessed with political affirmative action & overrepresentation, have all their bills paid by cities and blue states, but they whine and yell constantly."


Big Cities make their money cataloging, facilitating, and allocating the transfer of goods produced elsewhere. Big cities secondary income is from the federal government.

More and more Big Cities primary functions are being moved away from city confines to more business and family friendly suburban areas.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:18 PM (x3tTl)

132 The paying taxes as a requirement is too convoluted to do that now. Keeping track who qualifies each year would be too burdensome. I would be more for a system of those that were banned from voting based on the government benefits they were receiving. But that definitely would never happen.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:18 PM (2DOZq)

133 >>California Democrat Party, tore into "rural white Americans" in a
Twitter rant.



California is a cancer.

It should be excised and drowned in the Pacific.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:19 PM (yE4ie)

134 The left keeps trotting out that bullshit and that red states get the most welfare. Because the south and west sides of Chicago are so self-sufficient.
Posted by: TheQuietMan

____________

And take a wild guess what demographics in the Red States get the most subsidies? The southern red states have a very high population of black voters that are anything but Republican.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:19 PM (UfkIY)

135 >> The paying taxes as a requirement is too convoluted to do that now. Keeping track who qualifies each year would be too burdensome.



Nah - Just go Paper with a Vote Coupon attached.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:20 PM (yE4ie)

136 126 A preponderance of people get their money from the government, be it entitlements, financial assistance, direct government employment, government contracting or providing services that are paid for by the government.


This is correct. It explains the current voting patterns of the "collar counties" of southeastern PA, who have very rapidly turned purple/blue from solid red, and who are very happy with RINO (or just Dem) governance all of a sudden. Our high standard of living is either partly or entirely dependent on govt - even in the "private sectors" of banking, credit, and pharma.

Not sure if its possible, but the only potential fix is to grow the private sector enough. It's a tough battle.

I'm still slightly hopeful however. If not, yeah, it's gonna collapse.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 21, 2019 01:20 PM (Rarvo)

137 Have a little sympathy for the commies. They have done a lot to destroy this country and it will not go down. Cloward and Piven stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
For the commies the free market system is one huge macroaggression. Their own countries do not qualify as safe spaces. Sucks to be them.

Posted by: Random Poster at July 21, 2019 01:20 PM (zeg38)

138 We must know different bankers. The ones I know would loan money to Satan if they thought the loan would perform. It's not as though if they loan money in the ghetto that they have to marry their daughters off there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:06 PM (YqDXo)


Most of the bankers I've encountered are coiffed middle aged women who don't seem to notice anything about me and my person, other than my credit score.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:21 PM (cY3LT)

139 You mean like the US did prior to the 21st century? Oh, wait, we didn't do that when we had an insignificant illegal immigration problem, did we?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

_________________________

You don't think California has changed dramatically since the era when a Ronald Reagan could be Governor?

I have family in CA and the state went from something of a paradise with its only real problem being traffic to now being completely gone and might as well be its own 3rd world country.

illegals are about 90% to blame for it.

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:22 PM (UfkIY)

140 I don't understand the objection to conditioning voting on paying taxes
A review of history will reflect that it puts power in only the wealthy. Yes, the pendulum has swung way to far the other way in putting power in those that receive govt largess, but no reason to swing power all the way back to Soros and Zuckerberg fiats.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:22 PM (r+sAi)

141 California Democrat Party, tore into "rural white Americans" in a
Twitter rant.



California is a cancer.

It should be excised and drowned in the Pacific.
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:19 PM (yE4ie)


I'm not sure the Pacific is capable of handling the job. Can we go in with blow torches and machetes?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:23 PM (cY3LT)

142 97% of climate scientists agree that red states get all the money.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 01:23 PM (oVJmc)

143 the budget's exploding again, newly
discussed here as yearly and duly.
it's really too late,
so i'd rather debate
who's sexier -hedy or julie?


Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 01:24 PM (Pg+x7)

144

We (wife and I) won our personal war on poverty some time ago.

We did it by practicing all the ways to save money possible.

We aren't rich, just comfortable--or so our financial advisor tells us. At least we won't be waiting by the mailbox for the SS check.

All this was done (from MY standpoint , not wife's) with out factoring SS into retirement. Basically, I don't need it.

I still receive it, since I was enrolled by my parents long before I ever worked. I mean to take it until I reach my total contribution into the fund. Sort of a tax rebate if you will.

It'll become a donation after that, to what is undecided right now.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2019 01:24 PM (KATBx)

145 every letter I've ever gotten from Social Security says right up front in the boilerplate: "These benefits are no guarantee of future benefits." They have the right to cut them if they think it's necessary, and say as much.

Don't you love one way contracts where you are beholden to every jot and tittle in the contract, have no say, no remediation other than the one they select, and they can change the contract at any time for any reason.


In this case, the other party can confiscate all of your goods and kill you in your own home if you don't comply.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:25 PM (lD3vL)

146 You're never going to pass anything regarding voting eligibility and taxes. You would have retirees on social security completely locked out of voting, and that's actually a huge swath of the Republican vote.

Far easier to just pass some reforms, and much of this is actually popular but elected Republicans are spineless.

Remember how everybody was afraid to touch welfare reform and the when someone finally had the balls to say we should end it, even Democrats were scrambling to say they also wanted to end it?

Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:26 PM (UfkIY)

147 Nah - Just go Paper with a Vote Coupon attached.
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:20 PM (yE4ie)

===

When I really began to lose faith in the ballot: Paper Ballots in the bay

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2019 01:26 PM (EZebt)

148 You must answer 5 random simple civic questions in the voting booth or your vote doesn't count.


Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:26 PM (2DOZq)

149 Most of the bankers I've encountered are coiffed middle aged women who don't seem to notice anything about me and my person, other than my credit score.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:21 PM (cY3LT)


There is no personal relationship with a bank anymore. You are account # xxx, they look at your record with them, your credit rating, your income, and your debt.

That's what they base their *decision on.


*pending federal affirmative action regulation

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:26 PM (x3tTl)

150 All 130 passengers and five crew members had to leave the aircraft while it was searched by a special police squad and sniffer dogs.

https://bit.ly/2M5Ak4z

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)

I bet that impressed the hell out of her.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:18 PM (sdi6R)


It should. Any woman who can't appreciate that level of dedication to her must be a rug muncher.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:27 PM (cY3LT)

151 Horowitz explained that the current spending levels are the result of the budget deals that congressional Republicans cut during the last session of Congress...

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"Budget deals"

Yawn.

We haven't had a budget since 1997. We're riding this train to the end of the line and busting through it full speed ahead.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:27 PM (+0ddm)

152 I have to wonder, don't the DC crowd know that sooner or later they won't have chairs when the music stops? That sooner or later there will be a crop that kicks the can and has it bounce back in their face? Do they just assume it won't be them? Or do they just all scoot up to Canada or the UK or NZ or whatever as it all burns down?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, something something punk at July 21, 2019 01:29 PM (lLeln)

153 Every day the rhetoric from Leftists makes me more certain I'd be a candidate for happy camp when they come into power.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 01:29 PM (BbGew)

154 You don't think California has changed dramatically since the era when a Ronald Reagan could be Governor?

I have family in CA and the state went from something of a paradise with its only real problem being traffic to now being completely gone and might as well be its own 3rd world country.

illegals are about 90% to blame for it.
Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:22 PM (UfkIY)

No, the illegals are not the cause. They are just a symptom. You're ignoring the camel's nose under the tent and focusing on the camel being fully in the tent.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (m79Dg)

155 Unless it is made of Canvas, it'll go up fast.

Just a hint of flame and...

Poof!
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:10 PM (yE4ie)


Don't tempt me.

I saw a recent interview of a vagrant in LA who was a veteran. So ... sympathetic, right? But he frankly said he'd rather live on the streets and do drugs than straighten up and fly right.

So military service is one transaction, but it does not offset this second transaction, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

156 148 You must answer 5 random simple civic questions in the voting booth or your vote doesn't count.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:26 PM (2DOZq)


"Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (sdi6R)

157 Biden: "This is not a generation of socialists." Blue-on-Blue just went to eleventy.
Y'know what I miss? I haven't heard peep from Brennan, Clapper, or Comey for weeks. Whatsup with that?

Posted by: mrp at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (Pqytn)

158 And take a wild guess what demographics in the Red States get the most subsidies? The southern red states have a very high population of black voters that are anything but Republican.

The South is also made up of a large number of retirees who prefer the warmer year round weather and don't want the excessive tax burden of the Blue States.

Part of the lie w/r/t the recipients of "government money" is that the money is in the form of SS and Medicare.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (lD3vL)

159 I have to wonder, don't the DC crowd know that sooner or later they won't have chairs when the music stops? That sooner or later there will be a crop that kicks the can and has it bounce back in their face? Do they just assume it won't be them? Or do they just all scoot up to Canada or the UK or NZ or whatever as it all burns down?


Gather rosebuds while ye may.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 01:31 PM (oVJmc)

160 So military service is one transaction, but it does not offset this second transaction, IMO.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

Unfortunately that's the profile of the patients you see over burden the VA.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:31 PM (2DOZq)

161 I do think people like Ron Paul were unfairly dismissed by conservatives when he would talk about reforming the Federal Reserve.

A lot of our spending problems is a FED that basically hands out the credit cards. if you could put the brakes there, a lot would be fixes.

Problem is, people don't that to happen on both sides of the aisle and it probably would have some major short term pain economically.
Posted by: Blago at July 21, 2019 01:16 PM (UfkIY)


Ron Paul was/is dismissed because he's a goof, bordering on being psychotic.

I'm not sure I ever saw or heard anyone say he was wrong about everything. The problem is, you can't have part of Ron Paul. You only ever get all of Ron Paul, so on balance, we're better off without any of Ron Paul.

Same with the Libertarian Party.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:31 PM (cY3LT)

162 "Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.

... and certain members of Congress..

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:31 PM (lD3vL)

163 >>Don't tempt me.


"Pro Tip : Hey Kid - You want some Fireworks?"

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:31 PM (yE4ie)

164 No, the illegals are not the cause. They are just a symptom. You're ignoring the camel's nose under the tent and focusing on the camel being fully in the tent.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2019 01:30 PM (m79Dg)


Exactly right. The cause is the Great Liberal Infestation that began after the ill-named "summer of love." The infestation really kicked into high gear in the 70s, when the state first elected Jerry Brown, and went downhill from there.

It used to be commonplace for people to ask others where they were from, and when they'd moved here. That is where the problem came from.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (YqDXo)

165 47 23 P.S. I think people will wake up when Social Security benefits start being cut. And that's no surprise: every letter I've ever gotten from Social Security says right up front in the boilerplate: "These benefits are no guarantee of future benefits." They have the right to cut them if they think it's necessary, and say as much.

Posted by: MW at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (hNTtn)

From what I've read, Social Security is fixable (raising the retirement age, means testing, etc.), but Medicare isn't. Medicare is unsustainable as it is today; "Medicare For All" would probably require a Third World standard of health care.

Posted by: rickl

It all depends how many doctors will be willing to deliver health care for almost no money.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (/Fmtj)

166 We (wife and I) won our personal war on poverty some time ago.

We did it by practicing all the ways to save money possible.

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We've done the same. It's boring but effective. No credit cards, cook meals at home, etc.

One of the things that irritates me the most about it is that if I walk into a car dealership with cash in hand I'll get a WORSE deal on a car than if I finance it for 144 months. That's mind-blowing.

I understand it, but that's a horrible direction for society to have moved in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (+0ddm)

167 "Name the three branches of government"
Oak, Maple and Fern!

Posted by: AOC at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (r+sAi)

168 I'd be happy if it twern't 5,000 degrees outside.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 01:34 PM (MVjcR)

169 Unfortunately that's the profile of the patients you see over burden the VA.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:31 PM (2DOZq)


I'm not surprised. That's why I rage-stroke when those libertarian idiots want to legalize drugs. Does Singapore have a drug problem? A vagrancy problem? A crime problem? No.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:34 PM (YqDXo)

170 Meanwhile all my "Hate Has No Home Here" neighbors don't seem to see a connection between "rising school enrollment" de facto open borders and taxes.

And, at the same time the SALT deduction max was lowered to well below our current tax rate, my magnanimous neighbors overwhelmingly voted for a new 60M local bond issue for school taxes. Yes, that's 60 million dollars for "improvements" to various "aging infrastructure" yada yada yada.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:34 PM (SqopC)

171 I've given up worrying about the debt - no one will ever do anything about it, and yeah, it's going to cause a huge crisis and collapse of some sectors when it comes. So plan on it, get ready for it. The only real question is who is going to be in positions of power, ready and waiting to take advantage of the crisis when it happens.

Not joking, for example that could be a perfect opportunity to strip all of the universities of their endowments, when it happens. A lot of big cities like Chicago will go bankrupt, it'll be a good time to put them under martial law as well. So, give up trying to fight it, accept it and get ready for it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2019 01:35 PM (V2Yro)

172
"Name the three branches of government"
Oak, Maple and Fern!
Posted by: AOC


And the trees were all made equal by hatchet, ax and saw.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 01:35 PM (aKsyK)

173 "Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.

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50? You're such an optimist.

It's no-joke 75%.

https://tinyurl.com/y5fe436a

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (+0ddm)

174 One of the things that irritates me the most about it is that if I walk into a car dealership with cash in hand I'll get a WORSE deal on a car than if I finance it for 144 months. That's mind-blowing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (+0ddm)


No, you don't get a worse deal. You get a higher up-front price, but overall, including interest, you get a much better deal.

I'm old enough to remember when automobile loans were for three years. It seems so long ago.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

175 "Name the three branches of government"

Graft
Racial feelgoodz
Free shit

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (SqopC)

176 Social Security taken out of the general fund (read: petty cash drawer) and placed in its own account would be extended many more years.

But that fix is too simple.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (x3tTl)

177 I've been shying away from investing in a couple of mutual funds, because I'm expecting the market to tank and wipe everything out.

However, another part of me says go for it, because the next crash will probably take out everything, banks, bonds, etc., so, might as well see if I can make a few bucks before the inevitable.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (WEBkv)

178 If trump signs it, will he still be your huckleberry?

Posted by: macleod at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (SOVvt)

179 "Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.

Easy: masculine, feminine, and neuter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

180 Alternatively, I'd also be happy if Kate Upton were here fanning me and feeding me grapes.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (MVjcR)

181 Far easier to just pass some reforms, and much of this is actually popular but elected Republicans are spineless.


One easy reform would be to require for at least one year that every single entitlement check is picked up in person by the designated recipient, along with utility bills and grocery receipts.

That would weed out all of the dead, the pets, illegals, multiple enrollments, the financially capable, Disney characters and whoever else is making claims and receiving public money.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:37 PM (lD3vL)

182 Most of the bankers I've encountered are coiffed middle aged women who don't seem to notice anything about me and my person, other than my credit score.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:21 PM (cY3LT)


There is no personal relationship with a bank anymore. You are account # xxx, they look at your record with them, your credit rating, your income, and your debt.

That's what they base their *decision on.

*pending federal affirmative action regulation
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:26 PM (x3tTl)


I went into the bank last week, something I rarely do anymore. This woman had so much cake on her face, it was sorta symbolic. The artificial layer keeping her from showing herself...

We completed our interaction, she was nice, I was nice, but there wasn't anything real about the experience, from one human being to another.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:37 PM (cY3LT)

183 Meanwhile all my "Hate Has No Home Here" neighbors
don't seem to see a connection between "rising school enrollment" de
facto open borders and taxes.



And, at the same time the SALT deduction max was lowered to well
below our current tax rate, my magnanimous neighbors overwhelmingly
voted for a new 60M local bond issue for school taxes. Yes, that's 60
million dollars for "improvements" to various "aging infrastructure"
yada yada yada.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:34 PM (SqopC)


It's really amazing how stupid people are when it comes to their taxes. I try to explain to people at work about the massive waste of our taxes (our money) and the idiot response of "Well they need it for...." They need to waste our money?!?!?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 01:37 PM (6ooku)

184 What I expect will happen with SS is that it will become asset based. You own a house? sorry too rich.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (r+sAi)

185 173 "Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.

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50? You're such an optimist.

It's no-joke 75%.

https://tinyurl.com/y5fe436a

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (+0ddm)


That's why I'm skeptical about the Flynn effect, the gradual rise in IQ scores over time. I sure as hell don't see any evidence of it. Quite the contrary.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (YqDXo)

186 @ 168

Weasel, write those words down, so you can refer to them come January.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (KATBx)

187 However, another part of me says go for it, because the next crash will probably take out everything, banks, bonds, etc., so, might as well see if I can make a few bucks before the inevitable.

Plus all of your prepper supplies and "surplus" will be collected and redistributed.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (lD3vL)

188 It's really amazing how stupid people are when it comes to their taxes. I try to explain to people at work about the massive waste of our taxes (our money) and the idiot response of "Well they need it for...." They need to waste our money?!?!?

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But it's not taxes. It's a bond.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (v4v6L)

189 Pay Income Tax to the State - You get to Vote at the State level.

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What if the state has no income tax?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (FiUMj)

190

Weasel, write those words down, so you can refer to them come January.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (KATBx)
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Heal yes! I'll be whining about short days, ice and cold!

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 01:39 PM (MVjcR)

191 "Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.
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Easy: masculine, feminine, and neuter.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (YqDXo)


I was gonna guess Nina, Pinta, Santa Maria.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:39 PM (cY3LT)

192 One of the things that irritates me the most about it is that if I walk into a car dealership with cash in hand I'll get a WORSE deal on a car than if I finance it for 144 months. That's mind-blowing.

I understand it, but that's a horrible direction for society to have moved in.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (+0ddm)
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No house and no car payments here at Che Blake.

It's mind blowing how much more money one has when one doesn't have those payments.

Even though our cars are worn and all, I just cannot bring myself to go buy a new car. Well, in our case, a used late model car.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 01:39 PM (WEBkv)

193 Heal = Hell

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 01:39 PM (MVjcR)

194 Romans were in a box because they still thought "money" had to be a physical thing like gold or silver. They didn't realize it could just be a promise by somebody to maybe do something or not sometime, maybe. One you understand "Money" in today's economy, you will understand "debt."

They're both like the spoon in the Matrix. You look at it, you hold it, you think it's real.

But there is no spoon. Understand that and you can do anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2019 01:39 PM (V2Yro)

195 Been sharpening drill bits in basement, just took a index out to my truck, has to be 20 degrees temperature difference.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (BbGew)

196 One of the things that irritates me the most about it is that if I walk into a car dealership with cash in hand I'll get a WORSE deal on a car than if I finance it for 144 months. That's mind-blowing.

I understand it, but that's a horrible direction for society to have moved in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (+0ddm)


Buy it on finance then pay it off in three months.
Making sure the terms have no penalty for early pay off.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (x3tTl)

197 The only future we have for this nation is a hot economy and budget cuts. They don't have to be deep, but they hvae to be real. Instead, congress tries to spend more and more and more every year at an almost exponential rate.

Its a war between congress and the president, and Trump keeps capitulating. He has GOT to draw the line here and say "no further". He must.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (39g3+)

198 >>What if the state has no income tax?


They'll figure it out.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (yE4ie)

199 184 What I expect will happen with SS is that it will become asset based. You own a house? sorry too rich.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:38 PM (r+sAi)


Notice Democrats mumbling about taxing assets instead of income. They're clearly thinking in that direction.

It's a win-win-win for them. They get their snouts further in the trough, they can use the proceeds to buy votes (and pocket some for shipping, handling, and restocking costs), AND they hose the bourgeoisie, as commanded by St. Karl of Trier.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (YqDXo)

200 And, at the same time the SALT deduction max was lowered to well
below our current tax rate, my magnanimous neighbors overwhelmingly
voted for a new 60M local bond issue for school taxes. Yes, that's 60
million dollars for "improvements" to various "aging infrastructure"
yada yada yada.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:34 PM (SqopC)

___

Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (FiUMj)

201 The GOP elites are bear much responsibility for our problems. They helped crush the Tea Party and collaborated with the Democrats. Paul Ryan probably retired due to the fear people were about to find out all that he had done.

Posted by: Random Poster at July 21, 2019 01:41 PM (zeg38)

202 I think my bank is the exception since it's a family owned Texas Bank.

Frost Bank still tries to make sure you're not just an account number. At least in my experience. I could very well be the exception.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 01:41 PM (2DOZq)

203 https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/mobile/
Less than 15 minutes until the Lunar module leaves Tranquility base.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 01:41 PM (BbGew)

204
Democrat presidential candidate Bernie Sanders announced this weekend he will cut staffers' hours so that they can effectively be paid a $15-an-hourminimum wage,prompting mockery from critics who say the move is more evidence that Sanders' plan to raise the national minimum wage is hypocritical and would only lead to less work and more unemployment.





Economics. How do it work, Comrade Bernie?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 01:41 PM (6ooku)

205 177 I've been shying away from investing in a couple of mutual funds, because I'm expecting the market to tank and wipe everything out.

However, another part of me says go for it, because the next crash will probably take out everything, banks, bonds, etc., so, might as well see if I can make a few bucks before the inevitable.
Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (WEBkv)

Actually the next crash will be met by a frantic attempt at inflating everything, so the sign of the next crash will be when the DJIA hits 50,000, then 100,000, then 500,000, in quick order. And then everyone will have millions of nothings in their bank accounts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2019 01:41 PM (V2Yro)

206 "Name the three branches of government" would eliminate more than half the population.
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Easy: masculine, feminine, and neuter.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (YqDXo)


I was gonna guess Nina, Pinta, Santa Maria.



Moe, Larry and Curly.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 01:42 PM (oVJmc)

207 196 One of the things that irritates me the most about it is that if I walk into a car dealership with cash in hand I'll get a WORSE deal on a car than if I finance it for 144 months. That's mind-blowing.

I understand it, but that's a horrible direction for society to have moved in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (+0ddm)


_____

Car ads don't even have prices anymore, only monthly payments are advertized.

But the way to work the system is take the 144 month loan, get the incentives that come with it, make sure there is no prepayment penalty and pay it off the next day.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:42 PM (FiUMj)

208 >>Heal = Hell


It's the Burn that lets you know it's working.

Posted by: Hot Iron at July 21, 2019 01:42 PM (yE4ie)

209 175 "Name the three branches of government"

Graft
Racial feelgoodz
Free shit

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:36 PM (SqopC)


I think we have a winner.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:42 PM (sdi6R)

210
Actually the next crash will be met by a frantic attempt at inflating everything, so the sign of the next crash will be when the DJIA hits 50,000, then 100,000, then 500,000, in quick order. And then everyone will have millions of nothings in their bank accounts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2019 01:41 PM (V2Yro)
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In many ways, this is the story of the Obama and Bush administration.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (WEBkv)

211 Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a
vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between
county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR
SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (FiUMj)



The bloated salaries, benefits and pensions are for the children.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (6ooku)

212 Notice Democrats mumbling about taxing assets instead of income. They're clearly thinking in that direction.

What the hell do you think a property tax is?

Its a wealth tax - on hypothetical wealth. (Cuz you really don't know what it is worth until you sell it).

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (lD3vL)

213 Even though our cars are worn and all, I just cannot bring myself to go buy a new car. Well, in our case, a used late model car.
Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 01:39 PM (WEBkv)


I've owned precisely one new car in my life. Since then we've only bought used cars. What's the point of a new car, when you spend half the time sitting in traffic on the freeway? A Trabant would do perfectly well. Let some other sucker take the depreciation hit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (YqDXo)

214 "i buy gold from rowland capital"

william devane

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (Pg+x7)

215 No, you don't get a worse deal. You get a higher up-front price, but overall, including interest, you get a much better deal.

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Granted that over the life of the loan it can be, but I just mean an outright price. It's a worse deal initially because there are promotions based on the financing. I've seen as much as $1500 off.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (+0ddm)

216 I don't buy new cars, either, so this is solely academic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:44 PM (+0ddm)

217 rosland not rowland. i swear i'm going to shoot splchk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 01:44 PM (Pg+x7)

218 "Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time."

And the biggest reason is that the schools have all the troops on the ground.

Our local Board of Ed routinely violates the spirit, if not the letter of the law prohibiting public funds for electioneering, by sending out all kinds of blast emails to every parent in the District about how necessary the new budget is. That, and the teachers all vote at 105% participation in favor of the budget in generally low turnout elections.

If only there were some kind of political organization, call it a "party" that would take the cause of taxpayers and maybe even organize some counter messaging and a voter turnout campaign.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:44 PM (SqopC)

219 "Name the three branches of government"

Regulatory,
Hawaiian Judge,
George Soros

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:44 PM (lD3vL)

220 197 The only future we have for this nation is a hot economy and budget cuts. They don't have to be deep, but they hvae to be real. Instead, congress tries to spend more and more and more every year at an almost exponential rate.

Its a war between congress and the president, and Trump keeps capitulating. He has GOT to draw the line here and say "no further". He must.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (39g3+)

As long as we have a political situation that is balanced on a 50/50 knifes edge, the one most willing to spend public money in susceptible areas wins. Trump has to spend like a drunken sailor to stay in office.

Cutting budgets is the luxury of a government with 75% support or better. Until we achieve that, we cannot do it.

and if we cannot ever do it, well chalk that up to one of the prime reasons that Democracy has a lot of things in its favor, but it is not a sustainable form of government over the long run.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2019 01:45 PM (V2Yro)

221 Yeah, I get tired of the constant votes for school bonds. I think we have won 5 times in a row now (shockingly), but there is always at least one on the ballot. But I lost the previous 15 or 20 in a row, so property taxes are plenty high.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:45 PM (r+sAi)

222 "Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time."

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Just wait until you get the lottery to pay for it, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:46 PM (+0ddm)

223 Various lenders compete for car loans so the lenders offer incentives to get the business. $1500 to $3000 is the typical incentive. So buying with cash is a bad move since nobody will offer incentives to take your cash. It makes sense from that standpoint.

The dealers also get a kickback from the financing companies so they hate cash buyers.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:46 PM (FiUMj)

224 My favorite appliance cars are $10-$15K Japanese with 50K miles or so.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (+0ddm)

225 When the dollar collapses, and it will, I think the union breaks up. It might be a good thing. Until the people forget the lessons of history once again.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (RM0Vx)

226 221 Yeah, I get tired of the constant votes for school bonds. I think we have won 5 times in a row now (shockingly), but there is always at least one on the ballot. But I lost the previous 15 or 20 in a row, so property taxes are plenty high.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:45 PM (r+sAi)
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Heck, I work for the local school system and I vote against every single one of those bonds, even though it might cost me my job.

The bonds still sail through with flying colors, which just blows my mind. And it's not like this area doesn't have some economic issues, due to the city being in CA.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (WEBkv)

227 Granted that over the life of the loan it can be, but I just mean an outright price. It's a worse deal initially because there are promotions based on the financing. I've seen as much as $1500 off.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:43 PM (+0ddm)


Fair enough. I love the promotions that say "$1500 cash back." Where do the rubes think that that $1500 comes from? GM's stash?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (YqDXo)

228 Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (FiUMj)


Same here, they always pass, and then immediately we start seeing new buildings being thrown up, fancier football stadium, nicer cars on the teacher's lot, and more and more and more "administrators" in the business of administratin' the skrewel system on six figger salaries.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (cY3LT)

229 Just wait until you get the lottery to pay for it, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 01:46 PM (+0ddm)

___

Oh we have that too. And also some additional surtax on license plates. But it's never fucking enough.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (FiUMj)

230 I've owned precisely one new car in my life. Since then we've only bought used cars.

I went with two new cars, after inheriting two well used ones. My last vehicle purchase was in 1995.

As long as I can find parts.
Also telecommuting and two wheeled transport go a long way. I'm down to two tanks of fuel a year. (yet another reason I hate ethanol)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (lD3vL)

231 I dunno. President Trump has probably decided that Western finance is a Ponzi scheme holding up unsustainable debts that no nation is interested in paying back. He is probably correct.

If you see a war coming, the correct option is to max out your leverage early and use the benefits to get ready for the worst. If Trump wins, he can inform the useless financiers that tried to act against America that they are being dispossessed. If he loses, he will be too dead to care.

Posted by: trev006 at July 21, 2019 01:48 PM (o5jh5)

232 "Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time."


"It's for the children!"

In American Republic 2.0, I propose that anyone bleating those words be immediately dragged outside and shot.

Anyone second that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:49 PM (YqDXo)

233 "Every single year (sometimes twice a year) there is a vote in my area for more money for schools. It alternates between county and the various towns/cities, but there is always a VOTE YES FOR SCHOOLS campaign. And they pass with 60-70% every time."

--

Just wait until you get the lottery to pay for it, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles


In the local cage liner this am, editorial from the "editor" of the paper. They are worried the school mill levy won't pass because there is a road mill levy on the ballot.


On a happy note, the Air Show is next weekend, the Blue Angels will be here and I can see most of it from the back patio.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (BLFnH)

234 Nothing anyone can do about it right now. Our best course of action is to thrive despite it.

On the bright side, people have been predicting the imminent debt disaster since before I could even vote. The logic behind the arguments makes sense to me, but somehow it hasn't happened yet. I

Posted by: GalosGann at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (z6Rh+)

235 Second!

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (sdi6R)

236 Anyone second that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:49 PM (YqDXo)

I'd like to be on the enforcement committee. Extend the mandate to people who drop connection on Xbox Live when they are losing.

Posted by: trev006 at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (o5jh5)

237 Third.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (nDe2U)

238 Oh we have that too. And also some additional surtax on license plates. But it's never fucking enough.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (FiUMj)


Here in CA we have sky-high gasoline taxes, supposedly to pay for roads. But now they're proposing toll roads, having pocketed the gasoline taxes to pay off their public sector union cronies.

I just hope we have enough lamp posts at the appropriate time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:51 PM (YqDXo)

239 @228
You left out the new Diversity and Inclusion positions.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 21, 2019 01:51 PM (SqopC)

240


We don't buy new cars, either. Year old is fine, that massive depreciation is over with, plus there are applicable warranties left.
I try for the single payment plan, and if you want to get to the nut cutting right away, bring cash.

Let them know it's walking right back out the door unless they REALLY want to deal.

As in any car dealing, you best be prepared as far as knowing what you want and will pay, etc.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2019 01:51 PM (KATBx)

241 Jays just miss pulling a triple play on in-field bases-loaded hit! 1-0 Tigers.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2019 01:52 PM (Dh1wo)

242 Just wait until you get the lottery to pay for it, too.

The amount of greed and waste within the Texas Public School Cartel is amazing.

The state lottery is allegedly used for schools, one-half of the state gasoline tax is sent to the schools, the largest by over 50% portion of the property tax is funneled to the schools.

When Rick Perry's administration grew the "Rainy Day Fund" the school unions treated it as an uncashed lottery ticket and demanded that they get massive raises just because the money existed.

The pension and the school funding problem is so out of control now, if all of the schools closed forever and every teacher paid through their contract, the bond servicing and the pensions would still require another forty years of taxes at current rates to be collected.

Its a total complete Communist racket that can't even be burned down by fire.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:53 PM (lD3vL)

243 When buying a car, whether used or new, never negotiate on payment. Negotiate price. Then if you have to finance figure out the financing. But negotiating a payment is a sure fire way to get fucked as the buyer.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:54 PM (FiUMj)

244 " "Modern Monetary Theory." NPR has reported on it a
couple of times. Apparently, the idea is that as long as the economy
as a whole is growing and inflation is not too high, you can kick the
can indefinitely. AFAIK, the theory doesn't say what happens if those
conditions change."Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg


also heard it called "Cold Fusion" ... and yeah, it is actually gaining a little traction in discussions, I guess because there is no other political choice available.


But it is better to just print the money out of thin air (Quantitative Easing) than have to sell bonds and pay interest. The problem is there is no discipline imposed ... but we have no discipline in any case, so at least quit paying the interest.


My brainstorm is a one time QE to pay current debt (call it $25T) and link that with a balanced budget amendment. That would force the necessary cuts (and other hard choices, like build the wall) to the rest of the $200T unfunded liabilities, but as Barry Obama did, delay the pain for a couple years, so those that only care about the next election can vote for it.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 01:54 PM (Cus5s)

245 Public employee unions are a criminal enterprise. Few believe how much money is wasted on them.

Posted by: klaftern at July 21, 2019 01:55 PM (RuIsu)

246 Here in CA we have sky-high gasoline taxes, supposedly to pay for roads. But now they're proposing toll roads, having pocketed the gasoline taxes to pay off their public sector union cronies.

I just hope we have enough lamp posts at the appropriate time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:51 PM (YqDXo)

I drove to LAX yesterday and some stretches of the 405 are just horrible - pot holes, uneven surfaces..pretty pathetic.

Posted by: IC at July 21, 2019 01:56 PM (fiC74)

247 Oops. 1-1

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2019 01:56 PM (Dh1wo)

248 It all depends how many doctors will be willing to deliver health care for almost no money.



Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (/Fmtj)

+++This is what kills me - the Dem candidates all raise their hands, generously offering free health care to the illegal migrants. No regard whatsoever for the doctors/health staff who have to attend to their needs, without anyway near adequate recompense, no regard whatsoever for the taxpayer who has to subsidize the needy invaders. Just come on in!

Posted by: washrivergal at July 21, 2019 01:56 PM (9+jnX)

249 "It's for the children!"



In American Republic 2.0, I propose that anyone bleating those words be immediately dragged outside and shot.



Anyone second that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:49 PM (YqDXo)


Second!

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (sdi6R)

Third.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (nDe2U)

Motion passed. Next order of business get rid of government pensions.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 01:57 PM (6ooku)

250 +++This is what kills me - the Dem candidates all raise their hands, generously offering free health care to the illegal migrants. No regard whatsoever for the doctors/health staff who have to attend to their needs, without anyway near adequate recompense, no regard whatsoever for the taxpayer who has to subsidize the needy invaders. Just come on in!
Posted by: washrivergal at July 21, 2019 01:56 PM (9+jnX)

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Easy. H1B doctors will gladly work for $40K a year. See England's NHS for Exhibit A.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:57 PM (FiUMj)

251 My brainstorm is a one time QE to pay current debt (call it $25T) and link that with a balanced budget amendment. That would force the necessary cuts (and other hard choices, like build the wall) to the rest of the $200T unfunded liabilities, but as Barry Obama did, delay the pain for a couple years, so those that only care about the next election can vote for it.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 01:54 PM (Cus5s)


Delaying the pain for a while has the virtue (?) of using the electorate's stupidity against its worse instincts to achieve a desirable end.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:57 PM (YqDXo)

252 When buying a car, whether used or new, never negotiate on payment. Negotiate price. Then if you have to finance figure out the financing. But negotiating a payment is a sure fire way to get fucked as the buyer.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:54 PM (FiUMj)


I've walked in and out of many a car dealership. That very act I think is sufficient to get the message across.

I hate nickel and diming over anything. I don't care if it's a major purchase that ends up being financed, or a tomato.

Just tell me what you are selling it for. I'll buy it or I won't. If you think you pulled a fast one over on me, so be it. I don't care. I want what I want, and I'll pay what seems reasonable, or go somewhere else.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (cY3LT)

253 On a happy note, the Air Show is next weekend, the Blue Angels will be here and I can see most of it from the back patio.

In Texas, the Blue Angels will be in Fort Worth while on the same date the Thunderbirds are in Houston and Ben Had hosts the TxMoMe.

(sigh)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (lD3vL)

254 What about funding to help gays and lesbians in the budget ???? WE does not support this bbudget until more money for gays, lesbians, and children of coler our added !!!

Posted by: Mary Cloginstein from Obamaboro, VT and Proud of it !!! at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (qM84C)

255 Easy. H1B doctors will gladly work for $40K a year. See England's NHS for Exhibit A.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 01:57 PM (FiUMj)


Nah. Replace Medicaid with SanteriaCare. Most of the recipients would probably be thrilled.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (YqDXo)

256 221 Yeah, I get tired of the constant votes for school bonds. I think we have won 5 times in a row now (shockingly), but there is always at least one on the ballot. But I lost the previous 15 or 20 in a row, so property taxes are plenty high.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:45 PM (r+sAi)


That new athletic arena sure is pretty.
And the auditorium too.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:59 PM (x3tTl)

257 In Texas, the Blue Angels will be in Fort Worth while on the same date the Thunderbirds are in Houston and Ben Had hosts the TxMoMe.

(sigh)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (lD3vL)


I keep hoping the Blue Angels will fetch up at Sacramento.

IYKWIM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:59 PM (YqDXo)

258

In American Republic 2.0, I propose that anyone bleating those words be immediately dragged outside and shot.



Anyone second that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 01:49 PM (YqDXo)


Second!

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (sdi6R)

Third.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2019 01:50 PM (nDe2U)

Motion passed. Next order of business get rid of government pensions.

I will help donate the bullets!

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 01:59 PM (BLFnH)

259 When buying a car, whether used or new, never negotiate on payment. Negotiate price. Then if you have to finance figure out the financing. But negotiating a payment is a sure fire way to get fucked as the buyer.

Amen.

I did some work for one of the largest digital marketing firms for auto retailing. Learned a lot about the industry.

The sales weasels don't make that much, all of the money comes in through the finance department.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:00 PM (lD3vL)

260 That new athletic arena sure is pretty.
And the auditorium too.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:59 PM (x3tTl)


The library, not so much.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:00 PM (YqDXo)

261 Social Security was never intended to be a full pension.
It is intended to be a foundation to build on. It was designed to pay better to lower income people. Means testing would actually be redundant.

The benefit is figured by averaging your salary for the 35 highest years of earnings after indexing for inflation.

The monthly average is broken into three parts. For the first tier you get 90 percent. For the second tier, 32 percent. For anything above that, 15 percent. Lower income gets a higher rate of return.

Posted by: Random Public Service Announcement at July 21, 2019 02:00 PM (zeg38)

262 Posted by: mnw at July 21, 2019 01:11 PM (Cssks)
*******
It means NOTHING

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at July 21, 2019 02:00 PM (BqBId)

263 As in any car dealing, you best be prepared as far as knowing what you want and will pay, etc.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2019 01:51 PM (KATBx)
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Heh, once walked out of a dealership and apologized to the salesman for wasting his time.

Got called the next day and they met my price.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 02:00 PM (WEBkv)

264 Didja see the latest hate crime? Black Georgia State Representative Erica Thomas was accosted by MAGA honkey when she tried to sneak through the express lane of a grocery store checkout with too many items. He told her to go back where she came from and she feared for her life. The usual media and politician suspects decried the racist hatred of Trump's America, DeCommio, Ted Lieu etc.

Except . . .

The perpetrator has come forward disputing her version and she backed down. Plus he's a Trump-hating Donk from Cuba.

Well, at least he was a white hispanic.

https://bit.ly/2YbxYYA
https://bit.ly/2JSt2yt
https://bit.ly/2Lz3lWZ
https://bit.ly/2JGCoi2

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 02:01 PM (+y/Ru)

265 And the school votes are always sold as "the average home owner will only pay $18 more a year". And come on, isn't $18 worth it to have good schools?

Yeah $18 more a year on top of the $21 from last year and the $35 from the year before that and the $65 from the year before that, and the $216 from the special bond of 5 years ago, etc.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 02:01 PM (FiUMj)

266 That new athletic arena sure is pretty.
And the auditorium too.


But your home schooled and private schooled kids can't use any of those facilities, even though the families are paying through confiscatory levels of taxation for the use of it - for the children - just not yours unless you subject them to the abuse of the government school cartels.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:02 PM (lD3vL)

267 Learned a lot about the industry.

The sales weasels don't make that much, all of the money comes in through the finance department.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21


Exactly why I financed thru my credit union with a cash down payment.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:02 PM (BLFnH)

268 And the school votes are always sold as "the average home owner will only pay $18 more a year". And come on, isn't $18 worth it to have good schools?

Yeah they also calculate those numbers from at least ten year old data that includes the property tax collected on apartments.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:03 PM (lD3vL)

269 Heh, once walked out of a dealership and apologized to the salesman for wasting his time.

Got called the next day and they met my price.
Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 02:00 PM (WEBkv)

___

#MeToo except the call came about 30 minutes later while I was having dinner with my wife. We finished our meal, drove back to the dealership and bought it. I remember it well, 1 year old car, asking price $37K. We offered $31K.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 02:04 PM (FiUMj)

270 Yeah, I get tired of the constant votes for school bonds. I think we have won 5 times in a row now (shockingly), but there is always at least one on the ballot. But I lost the previous 15 or 20 in a row, so property taxes are plenty high.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:45 PM (r+sAi)


That new athletic arena sure is pretty.
And the auditorium too.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:59 PM (x3tTl)


I think people are willfully ignorant about teacher salaries too. They still think teachers are getting paid $18K per year, and have to buy all their own crayons and glue sticks.

What utter bullshit.

And the media is already starting up on that line of tripe, the stories showing how teachers are doing all this scrambling around to secure supplies for the kiddies?

Good grief... as I am fond of saying, anyone who thinks the human condition has improved in any measurable way in the past... oh, say 6000 years, isn't really paying attention to the big picture. We're still as pig ignorant as ever.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 02:04 PM (cY3LT)

271 A observation vehicle buying is timing it, end of month seems best. Bad timing on my part was a Memorial day could have had a loaded truck for price I paid at same dealer a few months later for a lot less options.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:04 PM (BbGew)

272
The perpetrator has come forward disputing her version and she backed down. Plus he's a Trump-hating Donk from Cuba.



Well, at least he was a white hispanic.



https://bit.ly/2YbxYYA

https://bit.ly/2JSt2yt

https://bit.ly/2Lz3lWZ

https://bit.ly/2JGCoi2



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 02:01 PM (+y/Ru)

+++Doesn't matter that it did not happen, AOC, Omar, Hillary, probably Warren, will run with the story anyway. Even if it has been debunked. It's their "truth".

Posted by: washrivergal at July 21, 2019 02:05 PM (9+jnX)

273 252
I hate nickel and diming over anything. I don't care if it's a major purchase that ends up being financed, or a tomato.

Just tell me what you are selling it for. I'll buy it or I won't. If you think you pulled a fast one over on me, so be it. I don't care. I want what I want, and I'll pay what seems reasonable, or go somewhere else.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (cY3LT)


I always bought used cars from the previous owner. I never set foot in a car dealer. But the last time I needed a car, I had enough money in the bank to pay for it, and saw an ad for a car in my price range that was marked down 14% from the sticker price.

I remembered that a customer at work had told me that the end of a quarter was the best time to buy because the dealers want to turn over inventory. The date was June 30.

So I went in there, took a test drive, and signed the paperwork. The next day I returned with a cashier's check from my bank and drove home.

Maybe I could have gotten a better deal if I had haggled, but I think I did OK.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 02:06 PM (sdi6R)

274 But your home schooled and private schooled kids can't use any of those facilities, even though the families are paying through confiscatory levels of taxation for the use of it - for the children - just not yours unless you subject them to the abuse of the government school cartels.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:02 PM (lD3vL)


And the codgers.
My grandfather would say , 'I paid for your parents education, they should pay for yours.'

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 02:06 PM (x3tTl)

275 Yeah $18 more a year on top of the $21 from last year and the $35 from the year before that and the $65 from the year before that, and the $216 from the special bond of 5 years ago, etc.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker

Yep, going to hate refinancing the house. Dad had a ARM loan I didn't know about. My name is on the mortg. and it's QC'd to all three of us. Need to buy out little bro. Going to lose the property tax homestead exemption in which the taxes are cut in half.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:06 PM (BLFnH)

276 221 Yeah, I get tired of the constant votes for school bonds. I think we have won 5 times in a row now (shockingly), but there is always at least one on the ballot. But I lost the previous 15 or 20 in a row, so property taxes are plenty high.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2019 01:45 PM (r+sAi)


Here there was a bond issue to pay for "school building construction and maintenance," a campaign replete with photos of decaying school buildings.

It passed. Brown used the money to give the schoolteachers (/spit) a raise, since they hadn't had one in weeks.

Next ballot had ... you guessed it ... a bond issue to pay for "school building construction and maintenance."

It passed, too. Welcome to California.

Effing teachers' unions.


By constitutional amendment (Prop. 9 >39% of the state budget MUST be spent on K-12 "education."

Meanwhile, California is 49th in the league tables in educational results. (Que?) Liberals say we need to spend more. I've responded that we should cut educational subvention to the bone. We can only drop one place. Move over, Mississippi, you've got competition!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:06 PM (YqDXo)

277 To be fair, I don't really care about the future financial health of the country either. At least not until the default is out of the way, and either the crushing defeat of the leftists and/or the national divorce.

This is like having your spouse run up 400k in credit card debt, then try to poison you to death. You don't buckle down and worry about paying off the debt - you divorce them and kick them the fuck out.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at July 21, 2019 02:07 PM (67XdO)

278 271

Every month is different incentives from different manufacturers. It can vary by several thousand dollars between June and July for example or between March and April.

I bought my truck a couple of years ago for almost 30% off MSRP since I hit a sweet spot of incentive bonanza. It's just in time pricing, certain model didn't sell well the previous month, those units need to move the next month and will be heavily discounted.

The end of the month thing is kind of a myth.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 02:07 PM (FiUMj)

279 Easy. H1B doctors will gladly work for $40K a year. See England's NHS for Exhibit A.

And those H1B doctors are the only ones available to provide medical services to the parasite class.

And if the parasite class complains - call them out as racists for hating on the H1Bs.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:08 PM (lD3vL)

280 I remember when someone hear used to call him Luap Nor so the whackadoodles wouldn't get all Truh Ttub.

Luap Nor FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 02:08 PM (Z+IKu)

281 The GOP elites are bear much responsibility for our problems. They helped crush the Tea Party and collaborated with the Democrats.

I put it all on their shoulders. If they had done right when they had the power to do so, and fought when they didn't we wouldn't be in this state. Instead they lust after more spending because that means power for them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 02:09 PM (39g3+)

282 I bought my truck a couple of years ago for almost 30% off MSRP since I hit a sweet spot of incentive bonanza.

Meanwhile, the new Jeep Gladiator is going $8k over MSRP.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:09 PM (lD3vL)

283 It's called 2CarPros iirc. They have utub and radio and web site. The main honcho used to own car dealerships and is a car nut. His site walks you through a lot of questions.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 02:10 PM (x3tTl)

284 "And come on, isn't $18 worth it to have good schools?"


a local farmer that lives in town was getting fed up with the increases ... and how the teachers retire early on golden pensions ... approaching $100k in a low cost town. He said "what do we have to do, start killing them". He seems like a moderate guy for the most part ... a professional before he went (back) to farming.


But the smaller towns are under strain, but just last year teacher went on strike ... which itself is absurd since the are government AND monopoly, and can never fire them on performance, and 9 months a year ... disgusting. And probably 90% Democrat ... teaching kids to hate Trump. less in smaller towns, but still most are Dems.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 02:11 PM (Cus5s)

285 Going to lose the property tax homestead exemption in which the taxes are cut in half.

Turn it over to rental property and deduct every single expense.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:12 PM (lD3vL)

286 When buying a car, whether used or new, never negotiate on payment. Negotiate price. Then if you have to finance figure out the financing. But negotiating a payment is a sure fire way to get fucked as the buyer.


Depends. If you also include the length of the loan then you are basically negotiating the price and you force them to figure out how to make the deal.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:12 PM (2DOZq)

287 I think people are willfully ignorant about teacher salaries too. They still think teachers are getting paid $18K per year, and have to buy all their own crayons and glue sticks.

What utter bullshit.


A friend of mine was a VP of a major bank who lost his job in a reshuffle, and was old enough he had trouble finding another job. (You know those age discrimination laws? Yeah. Good one.)

His brother and sister had become teachers, and were in Fat City, so late in life he clawed his way into becoming a math teacher (he'd been a math major). He was stuck in a shitty neighborhood, but stuck it out and retired with a hefty pension.

So I don't want to hear about how teachers are underpaid. If you have trouble recruiting suitably qualified people, THEN you're underpaying. But if you have to fight back qualified applicants with a baseball bat, you are most definitely NOT underpaying.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:12 PM (YqDXo)

288 286 When buying a car, whether used or new, never negotiate on payment. Negotiate price. Then if you have to finance figure out the financing. But negotiating a payment is a sure fire way to get fucked as the buyer.


Depends. If you also include the length of the loan then you are basically negotiating the price and you force them to figure out how to make the deal.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:12 PM (2DOZq)

___

Dealers don't lend money.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 02:13 PM (FiUMj)

289 Should don my flame resistant suit and go water my garden.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (BbGew)

290 Cooling off. Down to 100F.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (Ws3LK)

291 "And come on, isn't $18 worth it to have good schools?"

They claim it is to pay the teachers more.

"What, you have been holding back? Isn't that extortion?"

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (lD3vL)

292 And those H1B doctors are the only ones available to provide medical services to the parasite class.

And if the parasite class complains - call them out as racists for hating on the H1Bs.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:08 PM (lD3vL)
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Those H1B doctors are the only one's available to deliver services to rural America.

No H1B Doc, No Doc in Littleberg.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (x3tTl)

293 Meanwhile, California is 49th in the league tables in educational results. (Que?)

Si... I live in NorCal... the Hispanics have ruined the schools, I know I'm racist, but there were some good charter schools... CA. couldn't have that so they have legislation more or less killing them too.

Posted by: It's me donna at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (O2RFr)

294 279 Easy. H1B doctors will gladly work for $40K a year. See England's NHS for Exhibit A.

And those H1B doctors are the only ones available to provide medical services to the parasite class.

And if the parasite class complains - call them out as racists for hating on the H1Bs.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:08 PM (lD3vL)


I knew someone who was involved with hiring physicians for prisons. Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:15 PM (YqDXo)

295 Unexploded Allied bomb unexpectedly explodes in Germany. No casualties but a big hole.

https://bit.ly/2JYFDjX

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 02:16 PM (+y/Ru)

296 A friend of mine was a VP of a major bank who lost his job in a reshuffle, and was old enough he had trouble finding another job. (You know those age discrimination laws? Yeah. Good one.)

The ADEA is a fucking joke. All they have to claim is you're "overqualified."

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 02:16 PM (NWiLs)

297 And those H1B doctors are the only ones available to provide medical services to the parasite class.

And if the parasite class complains - call them out as racists for hating on the H1Bs. "

Since everyone is about to be given Medical Degrees based on their Wokeness rather than on what they know, the H1B's may end up being more talented than anyone from this country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2019 02:17 PM (k1TUh)

298 Dealers don't lend money.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at July 21, 2019 02:13 PM (FiUM

Not technically , but it makes no difference . They know what lenders they have and rates.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:17 PM (2DOZq)

299 Going to lose the property tax homestead exemption in which the taxes are cut in half.

Turn it over to rental property and deduct every single expense.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

No can do. Sold my house and moved in here. (Promise made, I don't go back on promises.) The mortgage is way more than half paid off. Very nice neighborhood and I have known some of the neighbors for decades. I will be able to claim the exemption on my own soon enough.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:17 PM (BLFnH)

300 #133 if California West of the San Andreas fault were to drown in the Pacific the remainder would be a reliably red state.

Posted by: torabora at July 21, 2019 02:18 PM (OqSi4)

301 Si... I live in NorCal... the Hispanics have ruined the schools, I know I'm racist, but there were some good charter schools... CA. couldn't have that so they have legislation more or less killing them too.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (O2RFr)


A friend and neighbor of mine is a dual citizen was telling about one of his cousins (he has a zillion of them!) who worked with some plantation in Mexico or Central America (I've forgotten which).

The cousin was trying to implement education for the children of those who worked the plantation. His biggest impediment? The parents saw no point in it. They wanted Juan and Lupe to go to work as soon as they were out of diapers.

So that cultural perspective is part of the problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:18 PM (YqDXo)

302 Willowed ... but I'm so impressed by Correira's development as a writer that I'm repeating.

Just downloaded and started reading Correira's Son of the Black Sword.

Great heavens, this is the same guy who wrote the MHI books? I swear, the style and even genre are totally different. Even not quite through the first chapter, I can say I'm unlikely to get much sleep tonight, even if there aren't any sequels -- and I think I saw one at Amazon.

Talk about developing as a writer -- this is astonishing, truly.

Posted by: Empire1 at July 21, 2019 02:19 PM (ZWw89)

303 The ADEA is a fucking joke. All they have to claim is you're "overqualified."
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 02:16 PM (NWiLs)


It really is. Anyone over 50 is pretty much hosed, from what I've heard.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YqDXo)

304 They claim it is to pay the teachers more.

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Studies show that a teacher who is paid 18% more teaches 18% better.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (v4v6L)

305 Unexploded Allied bomb unexpectedly explodes in Germany.

Metaphor alert.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YqDXo)

306 303
Anyone over 50 is pretty much hosed, from what I've heard.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YqDXo)


Yeah, that's kind of an impediment to saving Social Security by raising the retirement age.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 02:22 PM (sdi6R)

307 The ADEA is a fucking joke. All they have to claim is you're "overqualified."
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 02:16 PM (NWiLs)

I've learned your resume has to fit the job you're applying for.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:22 PM (2DOZq)

308 Studies show that a teacher who is paid 18% more teaches 18% better.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (v4v6L)


That's the implication, isn't it? So now they're resting on the oars, but if they get more money, they'll actually do their jobs? Is that what they want us to believe?

The truth: educational results are much more a function of the demographics of the students and the teachers than they are of the amount spent on education.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:22 PM (YqDXo)

309
It really is. Anyone over 50 is pretty much hosed, from what I've heard.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I was so relieved to get the job I have. Was out of work for a year and landed one a year and a half ago. Not easy for a *mumble* yo. Also probably one the the best places I have worked! I will retire from there in just over seven years.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:23 PM (BLFnH)

310
Those H1B doctors are the only one's available to deliver services to rural America.



No H1B Doc, No Doc in Littleberg.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 02:14 PM (x3tTl)

+++
It is not just paying the doctors to say, "Open your mouth and say aaah".It is the costs of the facilities, the tests, the testing equipment, the medicines, and all of the extra components - the millions of tons of disposable paper products used in just everyday office visits.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 21, 2019 02:23 PM (9+jnX)

311 305 Unexploded Allied bomb unexpectedly explodes in Germany.

Metaphor alert.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YqDXo)
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Has it started?!

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

312 311 305 Unexploded Allied bomb unexpectedly explodes in Germany.

Metaphor alert.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YqDXo)
------
Has it started?!
Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)


A metaphor for the immigration bomb.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

313 My grandfather would say , 'I paid for your parents education, they should pay for yours.'

So lets do some of the maths.

Say a teacher "works" for thirty years then gets that Fat Pension.

Class room size is twenty kids. K-12 is thirteen years. To keep it simple, the teacher officiates the same kennel of kids year after year until they graduate. That is just over two litters of children in a single career. so what? Roughly 45 kids received any benefit from that teacher.

That teacher pulls $100k in benefits annually, live another thirty-forty years in retirement at a reduced but COLA matching increasing rate. We are looking at no less than $4.5 million spread across forty five people. Each of those kids needs to pony up $100k just for the teacher alone. Probably quadruple that number to cover the facilities, operation, admin and maintenance costs, the stadiums, the band equipment, the buses, the usual graft, fraud and corruption.

All for an "education" that doesn't include identifying the three branches of government, how to balance a checkbook, or able to tell the difference between a biological man and a woman.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (lD3vL)

314 I've learned your resume has to fit the job you're applying for.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

THIS. I took classes at the local county workforce center. It was a big help.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (BLFnH)

315 312 311 305 Unexploded Allied bomb unexpectedly explodes in Germany.

Metaphor alert.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YqDXo)
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Has it started?!
Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

A metaphor for the immigration bomb.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (YqDXo)
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Oh. That.

Dang it.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 02:25 PM (MVjcR)

316 debt?
never heard of it

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 02:26 PM (dm05u)

317 Talk about developing as a writer -- this is astonishing, truly.

-
I read Gravity Wells by Canadian syfy author James Alan Gardner. It is a collection of his short stories (some rather and-American). His range impressed me. Some are light comedies, others dark and foreboding.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)

318 I've learned your resume has to fit the job you're applying for.

My resume says nothing about insurance yet I keep getting emails from State Farm saying that my background would be perfect to be an insurance agent.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:27 PM (lD3vL)

319 Yeah $18 more a year on top of the $21 from last year and the $35 from the year before that and the $65 from the year before that, and the $216 from the special bond of 5 years ago, etc.

And the schools get worse each year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 02:28 PM (39g3+)

320 Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 01:58 PM (cY3LT)

I always bought used cars from the previous owner. I never set foot in a car dealer. But the last time I needed a car, I had enough money in the bank to pay for it, and saw an ad for a car in my price range that was marked down 14% from the sticker price.

I remembered that a customer at work had told me that the end of a quarter was the best time to buy because the dealers want to turn over inventory. The date was June 30.

So I went in there, took a test drive, and signed the paperwork. The next day I returned with a cashier's check from my bank and drove home.

Maybe I could have gotten a better deal if I had haggled, but I think I did OK.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 02:06 PM (sdi6R)


Yeah, I'll spare details, but I'm going to have a new car in a few weeks, will be paying near what the dealer paid for it (they say I'm getting it at their cost, but I'm not that gullible).

And I'm fine with that. They're not in the business of giving away cars, and I don't go in with the idea that salesmen are jerks and scum. They're people, trying to earn a living. I'll get what I want, they get what they want.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 02:28 PM (cY3LT)

321 Living debt free can be done, tricky but it can be done.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:28 PM (BbGew)

322 Watching women's beach volleyball. Brazil vs US. Playing in Gstadd, Switzerland. The views all round are amazing.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 02:28 PM (2DOZq)

323 It really is. Anyone over 50 is pretty much hosed, from what I've heard.

I'm in tech and had over four competing offers at one time a month ago. That isn't "come in for an interview" that is bona fide "here is a dollar amount, when can you start?"

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:29 PM (lD3vL)

324 Democrats NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 02:31 PM (BbGew)

325 Since everyone is about to be given Medical Degrees based on their Wokeness eagerness to perform abortions and addadicktomy operations rather than on what they know,

FIFY

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:31 PM (lD3vL)

326 Cleveland company releases flamethrower drone spitting out 25-foot-long, targeted stream of fire
POSTED 9:11 PM, JULY 20, 2019, BY NATASHA ANDERSON

I could use one of those. Keep the kids off my lawn.

https://bit.ly/2YjnVAG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 02:31 PM (+y/Ru)

327 Studies show that a teacher who is paid 18% more teaches 18% better.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 02:20 PM (v4v6L)

You know the old saw about everyone is most conservative about what they themselves know best? It seems to be the opposite for teachers I have known. This is only my experience, but every one is a blue eyed zealot, Jonestown kool aid drinker when it comes to pretty much anything related to teaching reform or fiscal responsibility- even the ones who are actually pretty rational and logical about other things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2019 02:32 PM (ycWCI)

328 Flying into LGB next month. Unfortunate call numbers. It looks nicer than I remember.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 02:32 PM (BLFnH)

329 Sad to say that President Trump will sign this.

Posted by: GigantorX at July 21, 2019 02:33 PM (4M9SF)

330 I've learned your resume has to fit the job you're applying for.
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My resume says nothing about insurance yet I keep getting emails from State Farm saying that my background would be perfect to be an insurance agent.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 02:27 PM (lD3vL)


Have you ever been convicted of racketeering and/or loan sharking?

That may be why.

No but seriously, yes. A lot of the time, the resume is going to be read by a computer, before a human ever sees it. So you look at the job description, then look at your qualifications. What you put on your resume MUST match their description as closely as possible... and with some level of concern as to whether you do, indeed, have the skills you say you have.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 02:34 PM (cY3LT)

331 Skip --

Yes, living debt free can be done ... and after the first year or two, it's actually easy. Mr. Empire and I have been doing it for at least 20 years now. Paid cash for our current car (it was used) after the old one was totalled the day of Obama's re-election, so maintained our record there!

Posted by: Empire1 at July 21, 2019 02:34 PM (ZWw89)

332 I'm okay with this kind if budget and debt. What can't go on forever won't. So they are inadvertently doing more to destroy the federal government than the GOP has tried in the last two decades. And I don't feel sorry for anyone holding our debt, because at some point someone sensible has to look at the situation and know that it will never be satisfied.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 21, 2019 02:36 PM (H5knJ)

333 The perpetrator has come forward disputing her version and she backed down. Plus he's a Trump-hating Donk from Cuba.



Well, at least he was a white hispanic.



https://bit.ly/2YbxYYA

https://bit.ly/2JSt2yt

https://bit.ly/2Lz3lWZ

https://bit.ly/2JGCoi2



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 02:01 PM (+y/Ru)


She's got some splainin' to do. But because Democrat won't have to

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2019 02:46 PM (oVjPY)

334 Welp, time for baseball

Catch all ya'll on the gun thread!

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 21, 2019 02:55 PM (WEBkv)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-21-2019

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Library of Tsar Nicholas II, Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon, acidheads, barrelheads, blackheads, blockheads, boneheads, and I'm not even through with the B's yet. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, writing, and publishing by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants and for the love of Mike, what kind of a mother would send her son to school dressed like that?? She might just as well have sewn a big "kick me" patch on the seat of his trousers. Poor kid probably grew up and joined a religious cult, or Antifa (same thing, really), if he ever survived high school.



Book Quote

Crazytown was repelled by facts and knowledge, as oil fled from water, but was fascinated by the absence of hard facts, since it provided vacant space in which to construct elaborate edifices of speculation.

--Neal Stephenson, Fall: or, Dodge in Hell

Best description of the internet, ever.

(h/t Sonny Bunch)


Copyright Infringement

I wonder how many of you moron authors have problems with unauthorized sales of your books?

Moron commenter mindful webworker pointed me to this article which pointed to this article about a Belarus-based book site that frequently does this, i.e. sell books without the author's permission. So if you're an author, this may be worth looking into.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

In 18th century English, a CATCHFART was a servile, fawning sycophant -- so called because they would appear to walk so closely behind their masters.

Usage: "The Democratic Party and the catchfart media complex" sounds about right.




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Independent Bookstores, the Bulwark of Freedom

Last week, 'ette commenter 'Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily', posted a link to What is a ‘good bookstore’? that appeared in the The Hindu, that discussed independent bookstores from an international perspective. Elinor: "The writer is concerned with independent bookstores (there is international concern about the dominance of Amazon) and 'the ways in which independent bookstores nourish our reading and thinking lives.'

As Lewis Buzbee recounted in his 2006 classic, The Yellow-Lighted Bookshop: A Memoir, A History, bookstores have always been key sites of resistance to censorship. Buzbee, a former bookseller himself, writes: “For most of its history, the bookstore has remained free of the constraints of government regulation. Writers and publishers have often suffered under explicit censorship, but the bookstore itself, in part because it appears to be a mere store rather than a powerful force in society, has been ignored. Anonymity has its rewards.” Plus: “Because the bookstore has also remained — again for the good part — a mom-and-pop, little- or no-profit institution, it’s also remained free of the corporate graphs and margins.” These two things have combined to make the bookstore “a stronghold of the rights of free expression”.

These days, I do pretty much all of my reading on my tablet, but even so, I am becoming more and more convinced that the future of free speech and free thought is not with e-books, the internet, and the world wide web, but with independent bookstores and private libraries. The Silicon Valley tech giants have demonstrated the frightening ease with which it is now possible to manipulate text and images, and thus, perceptions -- even without the user's knowledge or prior consent. This is the sort of stuff that Orwell had nightmares about.



The Mysterious Disappearance of Agatha Christie:


Just click on the little blue tweety-bird on the upper right and follow the thread.


Moron Recommendations

From "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" by Mark Manson:

By not giving a fuck that you feel bad, you short-circuit the Feedback Loop from Hell; you say to yourself, "I feel like shit, but who gives a fuck?" And then, as if sprinkled by magic fuck-giving fairy dust, you stop hating yourself for feeling so bad.

Wanting positive experience is a negative experience; accepting negative experience is a positive experience. It's what the philosopher Alan Watts used to refer to as "the backwards law" -- the idea that the more you pursue feeling better all the time, the less satisfied you become, as pursuing something only reinforces the fact that you lack it in the first place.

In my life, I have given a fuck about many things. I have also not given a fuck about many things. And like the road not taken, it was the fucks not given that made all the difference.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

From the Amazon blurb:

Manson makes the argument, backed both by academic research and well-timed poop jokes, that improving our lives hinges not on our ability to turn lemons into lemonade, but on learning to stomach lemons better. Human beings are flawed and limited—"not everybody can be extraordinary, there are winners and losers in society, and some of it is not fair or your fault." Manson advises us to get to know our limitations and accept them. Once we embrace our fears, faults, and uncertainties, once we stop running and avoiding and start confronting painful truths, we can begin to find the courage, perseverance, honesty, responsibility, curiosity, and forgiveness we seek.

There are only so many things we can give a f**k about so we need to figure out which ones really matter, Manson makes clear. While money is nice, caring about what you do with your life is better, because true wealth is about experience. A much-needed grab-you-by-the-shoulders-and-look-you-in-the-eye moment of real-talk, filled with entertaining stories and profane, ruthless humor, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F**k is a refreshing slap for a generation to help them lead contented, grounded lives.

The Kindle edition of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life is $12.99. It is the first of a two-part series, the second one being Everything Is F*cked: A Book About Hope.

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A couple of books dealing with various aspects of Islamic terrorism:

378 About that whole Islamic conquest thing, I can't recommend anything higher than Tom Holland's "In the Shadow of the Sword," a terrific portrait of the Middle East in late antiquity. Holland explains how the Arabs were able to beat down the Byzantines and conquer the Persians: Not only had the two legendary empires been bled out after continual warfare, but both had been greatly weakened by an outbreak of the plague shortly before the Arabs swept out of the desert. Things might have turned out very differently otherwise.

Holland also presents a wealth of information about early Islam that you won't find in Gibbon.

Posted by: outside Adjitator at July 14, 2019 03:23 PM (NvFiZ)

And the amazing part is how fast the Arabs were able to conquer their enemies:

Just like the Romans, the Arabs came from nowhere to carve out a stupefyingly vast dominion—except that they achieved their conquests not over the course of centuries as the Romans did but in a matter of decades. Just like the Greeks during the Persian wars, they overcame seemingly insuperable odds to emerge triumphant against the greatest empire of the day—not by standing on the defensive, however, but by hurling themselves against all who lay in their path.

Emphasis mine. In the Shadow of the Sword: The Birth of Islam and the Rise of the Global Arab Empire is available on Kindle for $10.99. It is on my TBR stack.

125 Just reread Raymond Ibrahim's "Sword and the Scimitar" since the War College blocked him from speaking. A Cogent, factual, explanatory, historically correct analysis of the conflict between Islam and the West. Read it and you'll know why the radical islamists don't want you to.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2019 10:18 AM (VkWRL)

Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West is straight-up military history which

...chronicles the decisive battles that arose from this ages-old Islamic jihad, beginning with the first major Islamic attack on Christian land in 636, through the Muslim occupation of nearly three-quarters of Christendom which prompted the Crusades, followed by renewed Muslim conquests by Turks and Tatars, to the European colonization of the Muslim world in the 1800s, when Islam largely went on the retreat--until its reemergence in recent times. Using original sources in Arabic and Greek, preeminent historian Raymond Ibrahim describes each battle in vivid detail and explains how these wars and the larger historical currents of the age reflect the cultural fault lines between Islam and the West.

The book covers 8 crucial battles, 4 won by the Muslim armies and 4 by the West. The equal balance wasn't planned, that was just the way it worked out:

The majority of these landmark battles--including the battles of Yarmuk, Tours, Manzikert, the sieges at Constantinople and Vienna, and the crusades in Syria and Spain--are now forgotten or considered inconsequential. Yet today, as the West faces a resurgence of this enduring Islamic jihad, Sword and Scimitar provides the needed historical context to understand the current relationship between the West and the Islamic world--and why the Islamic State is merely the latest chapter of an old history.

I've just started this one this week. It's interesting, very thorough, and the forward was written by Victor Davis Hanson.


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377 I'm reading a fascinating book from the 1830s called "The Memorial of St. Helena." It was written by one of the guys who accompanied Napoleon to St. Helena. It is the daily life of the Emperor and the little French group who were there. Napoleon was treated shabbily and it was unnecessary. He seems very charming and even adorable (yes, it is an effort to rehabilitate him in history but I think he really was charming). The English people living there fell in love with him (except for the ones who were in charge of him). He has decided to learn English so he can read the newspapers. Right now the author is translating them to him. It's on gutenberg.org.

Posted by: microcosme at July 14, 2019 02:14 PM (B+xWY)

For some reason, I couldn't find it on gutenberg. But it is available on openlibrary.org and archive.org. For free. For you moron historians: the British had already done this one time before, exiling Nappy to Elba, but he managed to escape just a few months later. Why didn't they just execute the SOB while they had the chance?

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Books By Morons

Luna City 8 - cover.jpg


'Ette author Celia Hayes has just released the Kindle edition of Luna City: Behind the 8 Ball, which, as the title suggests, is the 8th of her Chronicles of Luna City series, about life in a small town in Karnes County, Texas, population 2,456, give or take. In this installment:

Fugitive former celebrity chef Richard Astor-Hall is beset with travails attempting to build a new life: an old girlfriend turns up as the bride at a lavish wedding, the family of his pet cat and cooking partner (Captain Kitten in the Kitchen) turn up and demand that the cat be returned ... and then there is the matter of the long-missing artistic treasure, the Gonzaga Reliquary, which may still be hidden somewhere around the old Gonzalez family home ranch ... Folklore, home folks and gentle comedy about in this eighth venture to the most perfect small town in Texas

$2.99 on Kindle. Print editions should be evailable shortly, later on this month.




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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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Comments

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1 Hello bibliophiles and -phappers!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

2 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 09:01 AM (BbGew)

3 I take too much joy in this simple act.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

4 I though summer time was for reading, haven't touched a book in two weeks.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 09:02 AM (BbGew)

5 Good morning in the golden age.

Posted by: Marooned at July 21, 2019 09:03 AM (8hRlF)

6 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading. Since it's been hotter than the surface of the sun around here, reading was a pleasant, non-sweaty activity.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:03 AM (bmdz3)

7 PlaidStallyns!!!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:03 AM (kQs4Y)

8 "So if you're an author, this may be....."

The suspense is killing me!

Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 09:04 AM (cF8AT)

9 When I'm elected president of these United States, my first official act will be to passionately kiss every female in the country on their humid, open mouth. I'll even kiss some of them queers in drag cuz I'm an inclusive and damned hip kind of guy.

Posted by: Biden, on living room floor sorting jelly jars full of buttons at July 21, 2019 09:04 AM (tt1wG)

10 booken morgen horden!
thank you OM for the ONT rescue!

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:05 AM (dm05u)

11 'Morning Readers!

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:06 AM (MVjcR)

12 "Never force the back; if it does not readily yield, it is too tightly or strongly lined".

Too true!

And speaking of spines, I love that dual row of old books.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:07 AM (kQs4Y)

13 I always read before falling asleep. For years I read 100+ books/year. Then I discovered Ace and the ONT. My time on Ace has drastically reduced the number of books I'm able to read!

Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at July 21, 2019 09:07 AM (TdMsT)

14 So yesterday I posted 3 of my favorite Horde series that are on Kindle Unlimited since there is a KU new subscription deal now
linky in nicky

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:07 AM (dm05u)

15 I haven't done any reading this week. Trying not to overtax my brain.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:08 AM (MVjcR)

16 Late getting ready for church and I'm mostly just posting to get this in my name field.

Yay books and y'all have fun.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 2nd Chronicles 14:7 at July 21, 2019 09:08 AM (+0ddm)

17 Didn’t I link this before? Sebastian Gorka on C-SPAN’s After Words, discussing his book “Why We Fight: Defeating America’s Enemies – With No apologies” (which I liked):

https://www.c-span.org/video/?456973-1/after-words-sebastian-gorka

The subtitle is a slap against the 8 years of Obama apology tours.

The most unsettling story was his father’s group of underground patriots gathering intelligence on the Soviet regime in Hungary and passing it on to interested Western parties. Alas, the people most interested were MI6 – specifically Kim Philby. Philby betrayed the key players to Moscow and the Hungarian secret police.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:09 AM (kQs4Y)

18 How to Open a New Book

* Make sure that your Kindle is charged and connected to the internet.
* Use the search function in your browser to find your book.
* Choose "Kindle Version"
* Press 1-Click to purchase
* Wait for the download to complete.
* Start reading.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 09:09 AM (lD3vL)

19 15 I haven't done any reading this week. Trying not to overtax my brain.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:08 AM (MVjcR)
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In this weather, you could overheat it!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:09 AM (kQs4Y)

20 Eris!

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:10 AM (MVjcR)

21 Plaidstallions omg
70s, right?

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:10 AM (dm05u)

22
In this weather, you could overheat it!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:09 AM (kQs4Y)
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Ain't that the truth! Staying cool?

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:11 AM (MVjcR)

23 "The Silicon Valley tech giants have demonstrated the frightening ease with which it is now possible to manipulate text and images, and thus, perceptions -- even without the user's knowledge or prior consent. This is the sort of stuff that Orwell had nightmares about."

OM, I touch on this in one of my comments. I didn't want to start a rant, so I'll just say that I, too, am concerned and agree.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:11 AM (bmdz3)

24 Since yesterday have been filling the real time rebroadcast of the Apollo 11 mission, it's at 119:39hrs, lift off from the moon is at 124:22
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/mobile/

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 09:11 AM (BbGew)

25 And here's Mollie Hemingway discussing her new book on the Kavanaugh hearings:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?462197-1/after-words-mollie-hemingway-carrie-severino

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:11 AM (kQs4Y)

26 I put Fritz Leiber aside for the moment and am reading "Justice on Trial". I was not following politics during the Bork confirmation battle, so if nothing else, I learned about that. Pretty good so far.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at July 21, 2019 09:12 AM (THS4q)

27 I believe Agatha Christie's "lost days" occurred when her mother died and her husband left her.

I ve read Christie's autobiography many times--it's excellent--much better than her fiction--but she does not say where she went during the lost days.

Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at July 21, 2019 09:12 AM (TdMsT)

28 Thanks, OM - for the plug and the link!
(And for those who want to get caught up on the Luna City chronicles, the first six volumes are available in a pair of compendium e-books. Print versions available around the end of the year.)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 21, 2019 09:13 AM (xnmPy)

29 I read House of Assassins by Larry Correia. This is the second book in the Saga of the Forgotten Warrior series following Son of the Black Sword. This is a typical Correia action-packed fantasy with wizards to battle and monsters to slay. Great escape read. Now to wait another year for the next book in the series to appear.

I also read Spy Master by Brad Thor. Typical of Thor's thrillers, there is a lot of action as Scot Horvath tries to prevent a Russian invasion of the Baltics. One of the reasons I like Thor's novels is that the scenarios in his books are highly probable of happening in today's world. I'm on the library's waiting list for his latest, Backlash.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 21, 2019 09:13 AM (0Bfo6)

30 I take too much joy in this simple act.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes



Joy is good, no matter what Alan Watts says, especially for you darlin'.

Good morning people of the books.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 09:13 AM (fuK7c)

31 Staying cool?
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My inner coolth protects me against meltdowns.

But yeah, it's supposed to get into the triple digits today, at least the heat index.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:13 AM (kQs4Y)

32 The Silicon Valley tech giants have demonstrated the frightening ease with which it is now possible to manipulate text and images, and thus, perceptions -- even without the user's knowledge or prior consent. This is the sort of stuff that Orwell had nightmares about.

==

Moron Hans Schantz's Hidden Truth series tackles that.

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:14 AM (dm05u)

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My inner coolth protects me against meltdowns.

But yeah, it's supposed to get into the triple digits today, at least the heat index.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:13 AM (kQs4Y)
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I need some of that inner cool. Hey - does readin the book thread count as reading?

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:14 AM (MVjcR)

34
I’m midway through Clifford Simak’s “All Flesh Is Grass” (1965) in which the inhabitants of the small Midwestern town of Millville wake up to find themselves enclosed under an invisible dome. It’s the handiwork of aliens, but unlike most stories, they come not from space but from another dimension. This is decades before King’s “Under the Dome”.

Simak was not the misanthrope King is. He always had compassion for his characters and for small town life, warts and all. I think he is one of our more literary SF writers and the tale proceeds at a leisurely, occasionally dreamlike pace.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:14 AM (kQs4Y)

35 Learning "How to Open a New Book" was a thrilling rite of passage in the second or third grade when we got our first actual textbooks.

Posted by: sinmi at July 21, 2019 09:15 AM (A5IVt)

36 Morning everyone!

Stormy weather here in Michigan. We had a brief power outage yesterday that caused enough of a flicker to kill our ageing modem. New one arrives Tuesday, but until then I'm using my phone as a mobile hotspot.

Crazy the tech we have these days.

Closing in on the end of Volume V of the Book I Love to Hate, but the hate is weak right now. I'm actually learning a few things about the Muslim conquest of Spain, which is nice.

My soon-to-be-heavily edited next book is also moving forward, though I doubt I'll make my self-imposed deadline of getting the first draft done by mid-August. Mid-September is quite realistic, though.

Last night I wrote the bg reveal (in a chapter I cunningly titled "The Big Reveal") where one character tells the other "yes, I'm a vampire and here's what that means."

So that's out of the way and I feel the need for a bit of an action sequence to pick things up and keep it all moving. Maybe a sniper atop the Mackinac Bridge?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:15 AM (HIUfw)

37 Read "The Revenant" by Michael Punke. It's the story of Hugh Glass who in August 1823 was horribly mauled by a momma grizzly near present day Lemmon, South Dakota while working as a fur trapper for the Rocky Mountain Fur Company. Two men, John Fitzgerald and a teenager, possibly Jim Bridger, were left behind to bury him when he died. The two men abandoned him and took most of his gear including his rifle. But he didn't die and his survival is one of the epic tales of the old west.

It was an ok read. There is a lot of speculation about Glass, but not much is really known about him. I felt Punke included too much fiction, but at least he admits it.

His book is the inspiration for the 2015 Leonardo DiCaprio movie. It bears little resemblance to what is known or thought to be known about Glass's experience. These were real people and I hate it when hollywood mangles their lives just for entertainment.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at July 21, 2019 09:15 AM (TDyHc)

38 I love those old, beautiful spines in the picture. Works of art that denote literary gems. Reminds me of the local library, adult section, when I was a mere lad.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:15 AM (bmdz3)

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"Never force the back; if it does not readily yield, it is too tightly or strongly lined".



That hasn't been my experience!

Posted by: Shep! at July 21, 2019 09:17 AM (2EMYr)

40 Why didn't they just execute the SOB while they had the chance?

Well, they did poison Nappy once he got to St. Helena.

More deniability that way.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 09:18 AM (I2/tG)

41 The picture of the old books above is apropos. I finished the biography of N.C. Wyeth and about half of those book jackets were illustrated by him.

I had read one bio of him years ago so I knew the basic story but this author (Michaelis) gives it a much more novelistic arc with foreshadowing and themes and such.

N.C.'s greatest creation is still Andrew, whom I revere above Michelangelo, but it was still fascinating to inhabit their world.

My only real problems is not with the author but with the Wyeths. They were stingy with names and kept using the same ones, or then marrying Pyles and bringing the same Pyle names in. So there's a brother Nat and a son Nat and maybe some Nathaniels and the three major women in his life are Carol, Carolyn, and Caroline. Sheesh.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 09:19 AM (fuK7c)

42 His book is the inspiration for the 2015 Leonardo
DiCaprio movie. It bears little resemblance to what is known or thought
to be known about Glass's experience. These were real people and I hate
it when hollywood mangles their lives just for entertainment.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at July 21, 2019 09:15 AM (TDyHc)

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Whoa, wait - you're saying Hollywood screws up adaptations???

I think the worst one I've ever seen is the awful botch they made of Evelyn Waugh's The Loved One. The two share a title and some character names. Otherwise, completely unrelated.

Ironically, the hideous adaptation ended up making Waugh's point about how much Hollywood sucks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:20 AM (HIUfw)

43
Well, they did poison Nappy once he got to St. Helena.



Aneleh was I ere I saw Helena.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 09:20 AM (oVJmc)

44 Oh, and it was the screen debut of Paul Williams. Weird!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:20 AM (HIUfw)

45 Eris, the only Simak I can remember off hand is Way Station. Iirc it was rather melancholy - part of the "humans are doomed to blow themselves up" genre

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:21 AM (dm05u)

46 I'm reading the Marines - Crimson World Series right now. Good Heinlein-before-he-went-crazy type storytelling. Sort of like Starship Troopers, too. Lots of action on ground, in the air and in space.
Plenty of political intrigue and the occasional shot at PC.
I don't recall who here recommended, but it's fun summer reading. Thanks.

Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:21 AM (i6sQg)

47 that Neal Stephenson quote as regards the internet may be true, but I was disappointed with him portraying 'drive through America' as 'Ameristan', full of religious zealots in Fall.
1 guess as to which religion he dumped all over.
And if he decries misinformation in the internet, it is usually the leftist definition of misinformation. Which usually translates as 'uncomfortable facts'.
Oh and also there of course had to be a trans character shoehorned into Fall...

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at July 21, 2019 09:21 AM (RKQ/v)

48 38 I love those old, beautiful spines in the picture. Works of art that denote literary gems. Reminds me of the local library, adult section, when I was a mere lad.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:15 AM (bmdz3)

#metoo

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:21 AM (dm05u)

49 Brodart also recommends breaking in a new book as shown in the illustration. They also sell a tool called a "bone folder" to help smooth down the pages.

http://www.shopbrodart.com/search/?q=bone%2bfolder

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 09:22 AM (sdi6R)

50 My problem with Thor and Correia is they decided to go never Trump and we're vocal about it. Once an author or actor opens their trap it turns me off. It's always there and ruins my enjoyment of otherwise good works....

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 09:23 AM (UUBmN)

51 My copy of Chapman's "Piloting and Seamanship" arrived this week. Aside from its reference value, it could substitute for a sea anchor if needed. I have no actual need for the book; it's not like I'm going to start sailing at my age. But the information is of interest and I've heard about the book most of my life. Buying it was pure indulgence. The navigation section is the most interesting so far.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:23 AM (bmdz3)

52 The How to Open a New Book illustration took me back over 60 years ago to elementary school in Wisconsin. We had to do that if we were issued a new textbook.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 21, 2019 09:23 AM (0Bfo6)

53 Reading 'Churchill Walking with Destiny'. At over a thousand pages, it is an extremely detailed look at his life, perhaps everything you ever wanted to know about Churchill and more. Andrew Roberts had access to far more source material than the many previous biographers which explains its length. Given that Churchill is one of the half dozen most important men in history, I am happy to dedicate the time to it. I have seen several interviews of Roberts and he seems to be genuinely enamored with Churchill and realizes how he did so much to save Western Civilization.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 21, 2019 09:24 AM (KnT4m)

54 I love many of Andrew Wyeth's paintings, but this is one of my favorites:

http://www.swoyersart.com/andrew_wyeth/dr_syn.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:25 AM (kQs4Y)

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51 My copy of Chapman's "Piloting and Seamanship" arrived this week. Aside from its reference value, it could substitute for a sea anchor if needed. I have no actual need for the book; it's not like I'm going to start sailing at my age. But the information is of interest and I've heard about the book most of my life. Buying it was pure indulgence. The navigation section is the most interesting so far.
Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:23 AM (bmdz3)
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Hi JTB! You will love Chapman!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 09:25 AM (MVjcR)

56 40
Why didn't they just execute the SOB while they had the chance?



Well, they did poison Nappy once he got to St. Helena.



More deniability that way.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 09:18 AM (I2/tG)

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Napoleon had committed no crime.

Yes, he killed lots of people, but all rulers do that. He wasn't technically a usurper, either, since he was simply a soldier who continued to serve France and eventually overthrew the Republic.

He was then accepted as legitimate by all the royal houses of Europe, who married his relations in the time-honored way.

Executing royalty simply for losing a war was a precedent exactly no one wanted to set. So exile and a quiet death.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:26 AM (HIUfw)

57 Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:23 AM (bmdz3)
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You might be interested in the book "Seamanship in the Age of Sail".

Copiously illustrated, it shows the reader all aspects of sailing the big square-riggers of the past.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 09:26 AM (iB1oa)

58 I just finished the book "Meet me in Atlantis" by Mark Adams. Quick read, but it explores the origin of the Atlantis and the searches for The city over the years.

Posted by: Picric at July 21, 2019 09:27 AM (nonGu)

59 I love many of Andrew Wyeth's paintings, but this is one of my favorites:


Hmm. That seems rather in the spirit of his father.

There's an N.C. exhibit at the Brandywine this summer and I intend to get down to it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 09:27 AM (fuK7c)

60 50 My problem with Thor and Correia is they decided to go never Trump and we're vocal about it. Once an author or actor opens their trap it turns me off. It's always there and ruins my enjoyment of otherwise good works....
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 09:23 AM (UUBmN)
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I'm enjoying the series NOS4A2 and looked up Joe Hill. Went to his Twitter account (my first mistake) and he said Trump rallies are essentially Klan meetings.

Well, he is Stephen King's son, so...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:28 AM (kQs4Y)

61 24 Since yesterday have been filling the real time rebroadcast of the Apollo 11 mission, it's at 119:39hrs, lift off from the moon is at 124:22
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/mobile/

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 09:11 AM (BbGew)


Amazing. Yeah, listen to that and think it's faked. Gees. Thanks Skip.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 21, 2019 09:29 AM (l0HIT)

62 "... the future of free speech and free thought is not with e-books, the internet, and the world wide web, but with independent bookstores and private libraries."

Which is exactly why I have a library of about 4000 volumes that I can physically touch.

Also-- I have noticed that archive.org is now in the semi-censoring business. You can still check out "objectionable" stuff but you cannot preview a lot of books-- especially old children's books-- that, e.g., suggest that boys and girls will grow up to have different jobs. I kid you not.

Posted by: Marica at July 21, 2019 09:29 AM (SDvjO)

63 54 I love many of Andrew Wyeth's paintings, but this is one of my favorites:

http://www.swoyersart.com/andrew_wyeth/dr_syn.htm
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:25 AM (kQs4Y)


The Farnsworth Museum in Rockland, Maine, is well worth visiting. It includes many of all the Wyeth's best work, and a special exhibition of Andrew Wyeth work is going on right now. If you love maritime art--this is a fantastic museum.

Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at July 21, 2019 09:30 AM (TdMsT)

64 never understood Correia going never trump
was it some kind of Mormon peer pressure thing?

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:30 AM (dm05u)

65 Whoa, wait - you're saying Hollywood screws up adaptations???
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:20 AM (HIUfw)

Yes they do. Often times badly.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at July 21, 2019 09:30 AM (TDyHc)

66 Independent Bookstores, the Bulwark of Freedom

Not any more.

Powell's Books in Portland:

Portland author Blake Nelson is facing a backlash over his new book.

For longtime followers of the local literary scene, that might come as a surprise. Nelson made his name writing young adult novels, and won praise for his realistic depictions of teenage angst. Several of his novels were turned into movies and TV series, most notably Paranoid Park, which was adapted by Gus Van Sant in 2007.

But his latest book, The Red Pill, represents a shift in both genre and content.

The title is a reference to the online anti-feminist movement which divides men into "alpha" and "beta" males and has political associations with the alt-right. The plot spans the year prior to Trump's election through his first year in office, and centers around a "divorced, liberal-minded" man who begins taking dating advice from his Trump-supporting brother-in-law, and gradually gets drawn further into right-wing ideology.


So, he did a reading at Powell's, as many authors do.

While Nelson read to about a dozen people inside the store, a small group-including some of the bookstore's employees-gathered outside near the entrance, handing out flyers describing the "red pill dating strategy" as "misogynistic" and accusing Nelson of being "openly racist, homophobic and transphobic" on social media.

Brianna Bonham, a Powell's employee who organized the protest, says the book reads as an espousal of the "red pill" philosophy.

"If a person is going to be using a name such as 'the red pill,' which is known for hateful rhetoric, and has recorded themselves saying they are part of the red pill movement," Bonham said, "that's enough to align them with a hateful movement that varies from just disrespecting women to rape. That's a dangerous ideology to support."


I guess we should be grateful that they didn't shout the author down at the reading, although I'm sure that's coming for unacceptable books.

But Powell's has started doing "Drag Queen Story Hour", so at least there's that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 09:30 AM (I2/tG)

67 My interest in colonial and early American history, always present, has been growing lately. I have a number of books coming about travellers on the frontier of mid-1700s to early-ish 1800s. These are mostly journals and diaries, seldom meant for publication, which, in my mind, means they are more likely to be honest. (That may be wishful thinking on my part.) Besides the actual language, they illustrate the provisions, use, resources and social attitudes of the period. The research on which books to order was lengthy and pleasant.

While many are available online, inexpensively, I want physical copies. I don't trust Amazon, Google or mobs with technical access to be able to manipulate or eliminate books they 'disagree' with. A few years ago I might have found that concern to be paranoid. Not any more.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:31 AM (bmdz3)

68 I'm on book 4 of Vince Milam's Case Lee series someone recommended here. It's okay. The style of the dialogue takes a bit of getting use to. It's like a secret language that leaves a lot unsaid. That said, I am reading book 4 so it's not awful.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (UUBmN)

69 Those pants are fine. I would wear them with a macrame belt to barbeque in my backyard.

Posted by: early 70s freaked at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (UdKB7)

70 I watched a interesting documentary on amazon prime based on this book:

Early Islamic Qiblas: A survey of mosques built between 1AH/622 C.E. and 263 AH/876 C.E.
By Dan Gibson

The theory is Petra not Mecca was the original prayer direction of the Mohammadans. His evidence is the prayer direction of early Mosques, lack of match between Quran and Meccan geography, and the Second Islamic Civil War.


Posted by: Dread0 at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (Bptbo)

71 I love many of Andrew Wyeth's paintings, but this is one of my favorites:

http://www.swoyersart.com/andrew_wyeth/dr_syn.htm
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:25 AM (kQs4Y)

He's been at sea too long.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at July 21, 2019 09:33 AM (TDyHc)

72 JTB, I grew up with Chapman's. It was instrumental in shaping me in a lot of ways. And it carried over to the next generation - Red, Jr. is a licensed marine Deck Officer.
If you want to know something nautical, start with Chapman's.

Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:33 AM (i6sQg)

73 If Hillary runs again, will she publish a book before the election?

Posted by: Picric at July 21, 2019 09:33 AM (nonGu)

74 It is hotter than the hinges of Hell out there.

Can't wait for Labor Day and the unofficial end of Summer.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 09:33 AM (sGotD)

75 66 now I wanna read it but not at my local library grr

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:34 AM (dm05u)

76 Currently reading "The Man From The Train", by Bill James (the baseball guy). About the man who is likely America's most prolific serial killer (100+ victims). He killed ~1898-1912, near train tracks, in areas with minimal / no police presence, entire families in one go, with arson, and other markers.

Great research, but could do without the meandering asides that have little to do with the crime series.

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 09:34 AM (3JbJY)

77 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2019 09:34 AM (arJlL)

78 34

Can't recall title but there was the same idea in a 30s story where NYC was accidentally sealed for like 50 years under a man made force field, then reopened. Gripping and sad story.

Posted by: doomed at July 21, 2019 09:34 AM (tt1wG)

79 The theory is Petra not Mecca was the original
prayer direction of the Mohammadans. His evidence is the prayer
direction of early Mosques, lack of match between Quran and Meccan
geography, and the Second Islamic Civil War.







Posted by: Dread0 at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (Bptbo)

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What's the name of the video? When I finish Gibbon I'm going back to a set of essays on early Islam that also challenges the conventional narrative.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:34 AM (HIUfw)

80 I read Famous Sheriffs & Western Outlaws by William MacLeod Raine. Originally published in 1929, it was a collection of articles written by Raine (a newspaper reporter) at the turn of the 20th C. He gives what seems to be a pretty even-handed accounting of some incidents that occurred in what was rapidly becoming the "Old West" of the 1870s, such as OK Corral, the Lincoln County War and the Tanto Basin War. Some of the articles are more interesting than others and a couple don't quite fit the theme. One thing that I learned was that the gunfighters tended to alternate between outlawry and being lawmen as their mood and circumstances dictated. Rating = 3.75/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 21, 2019 09:35 AM (5Yee7)

81 Weasel! Kindred spirits with Chapman's!

Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:35 AM (i6sQg)

82 I am now reading a Moron recommendation, though I think it may have come up in a non-book thread.

God: a Biography.

It removes the theology (we're not to care about whether it's "true") and looks at God as a literary figure. What is he doing at the creation, why is he fucking with people? I'm not very far in, he's messing with Abraham now, but I'm quite enjoying it.

My only disappointment is that I'd hoped for this approach to Jesus, but this God is Jewish bible only.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 09:35 AM (fuK7c)

83 I don't trust Amazon, Google or mobs with technical access to be able to manipulate or eliminate books they 'disagree' with. A few years ago I might have found that concern to be paranoid. Not any more.
Posted by: JTB

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Same here. Some of my colleagues are a bit surprised to find out that I have an actual library in my abode.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 21, 2019 09:36 AM (qup4B)

84 65 Whoa, wait - you're saying Hollywood screws up adaptations???
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:20 AM (HIUfw)

Yes they do. Often times badly.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at July 21, 2019 09:30 AM (TDyHc)
________

After Hollywood had made it into a movie, P G Wodehouse wrote an introduction to his Damsel in Distress. Very funny, about the studio's turning it over to "the manglers", and what they did.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 09:37 AM (VaN/j)

85 Speaking of the interwebs, I perused that fat creature who wanted his SCOTUS waxed and whoo boy! what a freak show. None of it made any sense in the real world.

The book I am so looking forward to reading in the near future is "Nukes and Scimitars or How Muzzies Learned to Love the Bomb and Enter Paradise".

Oh, the horror.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 09:37 AM (Z+IKu)

86 "The Lanson Screen" by Leo Zagat.

Posted by: doomed at July 21, 2019 09:38 AM (tt1wG)

87 Napoleon has to have been highly charismatic. It wouldn't surprise me to see him portrayed as charming.

Sounds like my sister could use that not giving a fuck book. I might get it for her as a "joke" Christmas gift that is secretly for real.

Personally, my approach to bad situations is to look for the humor. There's this one recurring meeting at work that is very annoying for a variety of reasons, and I'm the one who represents my office there. I could spend a lot of time blowing my top, but instead, I focus on the entertainment value. A bunch of engineers arguing is usually pretty entertaining (despite what you might assume, quite a few of us do have a way with words, which really adds to it) anyway, but at this meeting, I also look for the humor in the frequent last-minute cancellations and poor technical pre-coordination (particularly inapt given the whole purpose of this meeting is technical coordination. They like to come in with a software solution to a hardware problem which they haven't cleared with software, which is in my office, and now I just raise an eyebrow very slowly and dryly recommend they clear that with the software control board, my tone of voice clearly implying they won't be succeeding).

Speaking of engineering and moon landing. Exploration Mission 1 is still on track for October 2020 launch.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 21, 2019 09:39 AM (rWZ8Y)

88 Hmm...catchfart gives me an idea...

Posted by: Little Lupe at July 21, 2019 09:39 AM (EgshT)

89 While I love small book stores, too many of them are run by hard left extremist freakies and its almost painful to go into some of them with the decor and people working there, the patchoulli stench, and the books they like to feature up front. My favorite ones are run by people who just love books and selling books, so they don't have an agenda beyond that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:40 AM (39g3+)

90 61 - Been listening to the rebroadcast since found it. It plays on my tablet while going to diffent browsers and web sites. Right now there is conversation of little nagging problems in equipment and how to get around them.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 09:40 AM (BbGew)

91 Napoleon 's only crime was losing

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:41 AM (dm05u)

92 The Hemingway clip is good. "As the Court has become more political in its decision-making, when it makes law rather than interprets the law as written, that creates a very political situation and it's not altogether surprising that the process itself becomes more political."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:42 AM (kQs4Y)

93 79
What's the name of the video? When I finish Gibbon I'm going back to a set of essays on early Islam that also challenges the conventional narrative.

The Sacred City was the documentary name on amazon.

Posted by: Dread0 at July 21, 2019 09:43 AM (Bptbo)

94 76 Currently reading "The Man From The Train", by Bill James (the baseball guy). About the man who is likely America's most prolific serial killer (100+ victims). He killed ~1898-1912, near train tracks, in areas with minimal / no police presence, entire families in one go, with arson, and other markers.

Great research, but could do without the meandering asides that have little to do with the crime series.
Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 09:34 AM (3JbJY)

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Also, recently finished "The Westies" by T.J. English, about the Irish mob in Hells Kitchen (New York), from 1960-1985ish. The key protagonists were Mickey Featherstone and James Coonan, the latter of whom was notably fond of dismembering his victims. If you are true crime aficionado, recommended.

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 09:43 AM (3JbJY)

95 I never saw anything like those pants in the wild, but I pretty much could have been the kid on the right. I had that face and that hair at about the time of that picture.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 09:43 AM (fuK7c)

96 The War College isn't really interested in teaching about war, is it?

Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 09:44 AM (I5SAg)

97 Napoleon created one of the world's first secret police systems, brutally repressed, arrested, or killed anyone who dared question him, tried to take over Europe, reversed most of the good things the French revolution started (such as ending slavery in France), ended freedom of the press in France, and attacked nation after nation for no other reason than "Vive La France."

Why people think he was a good guy baffles me completely.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:44 AM (39g3+)

98 54 I love many of Andrew Wyeth's paintings, but this is one of my favorites:

http://www.swoyersart.com/andrew_wyeth/dr_syn.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:25 AM (kQs4Y)

****

Dr. Syn is not sporting the requisite Sunday Morning Book Thread pants . . .

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at July 21, 2019 09:44 AM (NqQAS)

99 96 The War College isn't really interested in teaching about war, is it?
Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 09:44 AM (I5SAg)

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That shocking bit of self-defeating PC stuck out to me as well ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 09:45 AM (3JbJY)

100 For a Napoleonic era buff I have no admiration of him, as was said of Cromwell first, he was a great bad man.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 09:46 AM (BbGew)

101 Napoleon had committed no crime.

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Executing royalty simply for losing a war was a precedent exactly no one wanted to set. So exile and a quiet death.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 09:26 AM (HIUfw)


It is interesting to speculate what might have happened if Napoleon had stopped in 1807 after defeating the Austrians, Prussians and Russians.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 21, 2019 09:46 AM (5Yee7)

102 82 My only disappointment is that I'd hoped for this approach to Jesus, but this God is Jewish bible only.

everyone knows you gotta leave an escape hatch for a sequel

Posted by: Anachronda at July 21, 2019 09:47 AM (cTF5L)

103 Bander, my sympathies . . .

Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:47 AM (i6sQg)

104 Bander, my sympathies . . .


Well, some are born in good eras and some have the seventies thrust upon them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 09:49 AM (fuK7c)

105 Cromwell gets a bad rap by being disliked by Royal historians. He was no worse than the kings who came before him and in a lot of ways, better. The Irish like to pick him as their particular Devil, but previous kings had been just as awful to them or more so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:50 AM (39g3+)

106 While on vacation in Alaska (a great place btw) I finished two books, Claudius the God and Proust's Volume 1. Claudius got pretty vengeful once he found out what a lying whore Messalina had been behind his back, at one point thoroughly outdistancing in a contest with the most famed local prostitute in how many studs they could drain before claiming enough. So he had her iced along with others complicit in her schemes which included having her faves rewarded and punishing those she didn't like; kind of like an early non frigid version of Rodham. The ending was pretty funny regarding the satiric eulogies of Claudius. I assume that he was a good emperor particularly following the insanity of Caligula. The book dragged a bit, at least for me, in parts about the British campaign and Claudius's desire to make the Roman Empire a Republic again, but maybe that was because my book group read it immediately after I Claudius and maybe I was reaching saturation level, particularly in the fucking hot weather. Ironically near the end of Proust's Within a Budding Grove there was a reference to Messalina, oddly presented (or translated) imo, that I wouldn't have understood previously.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 09:51 AM (y7DUB)

107 Good morning all! My Sunday school class is studying the affair of David and Bathsheba. My husband asked what the point was. I said maybe to remind us that God knows and sees all. Other than that, I got nothing.

Posted by: jmel at July 21, 2019 09:51 AM (OeWgo)

108 I love the part where Abraham thinks that he is bargaining with God over Sodom. LOL. God didn't agree to anything he already knew wasn't going to happen.

Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 09:51 AM (I5SAg)

109 This week both my wife and I have been under the weather. The inevitable result is I've been reading a lot of Bill James. (Not the Man on the Train, true crime isn't my thing. My wife has it, though, and liked it.)

I've dropped Amazon, so our latest order was placed with Book Depository. For some reason, it got cancelled immediately, not clear why. Anyone have experience with them? Or, generally, what companies do Horde members recommend? (Or warn against.)

Mind you, the stuff I order isn't available on most sites - naval stuff, mostly. The core of our order was Norman Friedman's new one on Brit subs. (I even pulled out his earlier one on US subs, to have them side-by-side.)

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 09:51 AM (VaN/j)

110 And with that, gotta get going and clean up yesterday's mess. Lots of brass involved, which is a tale for a later thread.
Bye, Bookies!

Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:53 AM (i6sQg)

111 God punished David by killing the bastard son. David repented. No?

Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 09:53 AM (I5SAg)

112 I am currently reading John Buchan's Huntingtower which is a book I wouldn't have enjoyed earlier in my life.

Its about a very typical, very UK Scotsman who has sold his very successful business and decides to go on a walk. He gets tangled up in sinister-seeming dealings in a small Scottish town and is in over his head as a normal middle aged man.

The depictions of Scottish countryside are lush and the book is well written, but its about subject matter I would not have really cared for until I got to a certain age.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:54 AM (39g3+)

113 57 ... "You might be interested in the book "Seamanship in the Age of Sail"."

Hi Captain Obvious and Weasel, The Harland book is on my list to look for. It covers the time of most interest to me. I just can't quite spend the money for it but that could change with minimal weakening of will power.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 09:55 AM (bmdz3)

114 " Never force the back"?????? Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: David French at July 21, 2019 09:55 AM (FTPVM)

115 109 This week both my wife and I have been under the weather. The inevitable result is I've been reading a lot of Bill James. (Not the Man on the Train, true crime isn't my thing. My wife has it, though, and liked it.)

I've dropped Amazon, so our latest order was placed with Book Depository. For some reason, it got cancelled immediately, not clear why. Anyone have experience with them? Or, generally, what companies do Horde members recommend? (Or warn against.)

Mind you, the stuff I order isn't available on most sites - naval stuff, mostly. The core of our order was Norman Friedman's new one on Brit subs. (I even pulled out his earlier one on US subs, to have them side-by-side.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 09:51 AM (VaN/j)

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Years ago, I used to subscribe to "Proceedings" of the United States Naval Institute. Not sure why I stopped, but recommended if you want to be informed about the latest developments in naval warfare.

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 09:56 AM (3JbJY)

116 As far as I know I've not had any unauthorized copies of any of my books sell, mostly because few people know they exist and I sell so few to begin with.

But there are instantly used copies of my books that show up as soon as I post them on Amazon, which is baffling. I suspect that there's some kind of scam going on somewhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:57 AM (39g3+)

117 Morning bookists. Chugging along in my writing (grandfather, WWs, combat engineer). because i have developed an unending ability to self-distract and chase anything down a rabbit hole, i wrote two short essays about specific events, and sent them off to family, as teasers. got a collective yawn, but at least I was entertained. because research is NEVER over, i got yet another book on the SS, 'Men of Steel,' by Brit general Reynolds. i wish i'd gotten it 2 years ago, its very detailed. and yes he mentions my gpa. am discovering one of gpa's subordinates who wrote a book... exaggerates EVERYTHING. which sucks, cause i have to CHECK EVERYTHING. If he says something happened on the 23rd 20 miles away, i regularly find it happened 5 miles away on the 25th. etc. Otherwise, chugging slowly along at my 1-2 pages a day pace. its fun as hell, but hard work. enjoy all!

PS. God Bless the astronauts and Lunar-nauts. i was 13, watched it all live.

Posted by: goatexchange at July 21, 2019 09:57 AM (iBmJc)

118 Cromwell gets a bad rap by being disliked by Royal historians. He was no worse than the kings who came before him and in a lot of ways, better. The Irish like to pick him as their particular Devil, but previous kings had been just as awful to them or more so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:50 AM (39g3+)


Yeah I don't get that either. It's not like the Jesuits weren't perpetually plotting against the crown like a bunch of seditious cocksuckers. I'd have fucked those dickweeds up a lot worse. Still disinterring Cromwell's rotting carcass and hanging it in chains is a good how to guide in dealing with McCain when Civil War 2 goes hot.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 09:58 AM (y7DUB)

119 "... the future of free speech and free thought is not with e-books, the internet, and the world wide web, but with independent bookstores and private libraries."

Which is exactly why I have a library of about 4000 volumes that I can physically touch.
...
Posted by: Marica at July 21, 2019 09:29 AM (SDvjO)


I agree completely. Before I became concerned about the Leftists' attempt to kill the American Experiment, I concentrated on military history for my own interests. Now I'm buying more general American history and other older books (pre-1980). I'm at 5000 in my personal library and have been buying as many older books as I can afford. Now I'm buying for the preservation of these old books.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 21, 2019 09:59 AM (5Yee7)

120 Learning "How to Open a New Book" was a thrilling rite of passage in the second or third grade when we got our first actual textbooks.

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I remember that as well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:00 AM (+y/Ru)

121 If only Agatha Christie had looked like the girl on the Redbook cover. . . .

I just reread Stephen King's The Dead Zone from 1979. It is still a top-notch story. But as his political stance changed from R to D when he got to college in 1965 or so, mine has shifted 180 degrees from what it was in 1980 when I read the book. Greg Stillson, the villain, is a scumbag, no question about that, and King is careful to show what a thug he is -- he kicks a dog to death in his first scene in the book, has his minions violently threaten his political opponents, etc. Granted.

But some of the planks of his platform -- tougher sentences for drug pushers, cutting welfare payments to obvious druggies, cutting taxes, getting some of the delinquents to work on public works projects -- don't sound too bad to me now. To be fair, King has Johnny Smith, the protagonist, be uneasy about Stillson's associates, former bikers who carry sawed-off pool cues in their pockets, and other things about the man that have nothing to do with his platform. But now I find myself saying, "Y'know, Stillson's platform isn't too bad!"

Didn't ruin the book. But it just shows to go you that you can't come back to a favorite book in quite the same space you were in when you first read it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 21, 2019 10:00 AM (4c+5M)

122 It is interesting to speculate what might have
happened if Napoleon had stopped in 1807 after defeating the Austrians,
Prussians and Russians.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 21, 2019 09:46 AM (5Yee7)

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He couldn't stop. He was at war with everyone around him. Those he defeated were openly gathering strength for the next round. The Austrians were implacable.

He could have had peace if he'd stopped imposing punishing terms. A Napoloeonic France with slightly favorable 1792 borders was possible. One that annexed the Netherlands, Switzerland, established the Rhine as tributary and had the Emperor's brother on the Spanish throne and northern Italy as a protectorate was never going to work.

Don't forget his excellent Egyptian adventure, either. His ambition knew no bounds.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:00 AM (HIUfw)

123 Regarding libraries, my wife and I have noted an upsurge of small bookstores of a certain Type during our travels in the US. They are usually run by by women or guys with small ponytails. The literature is either mysandric or uninteresting to me, and I certainly wouldn't want them "protecting" my choice of books.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at July 21, 2019 10:01 AM (gSgAd)

124 He couldn't stop.

Nappy liked being a general a lot more than he liked being an administrator.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:02 AM (I2/tG)

125 Cromwell gets a bad rap by being disliked by Royal historians. He was no worse than the kings who came before him and in a lot of ways, better. The Irish like to pick him as their particular Devil, but previous kings had been just as awful to them or more so.

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And yet the Brits honored him during WWII by naming a tank after him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (+y/Ru)

126 Will Cuppy, a humorist of the Forties, mentions in one piece a current bestseller of his time called How to Read a Book. He says, "It came too late for me. I'd already read one."

Currently I'm dipping into the ghost stories of M.R. James, whose "Casting the Runes," for example, became the classic creep movie Curse of the Demon. His " 'Oh, Whistle, and I'll Come to You, My Lad' " is very readable still, and very disturbing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (4c+5M)

127 Austin has a "Bookpeople" book store. It's pretty leftist. Downtown near Whole Foods and REI.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (UUBmN)

128 89: Nothing worse than going into a bookstore and finding leftist philosophy, LGBLT kiddie books and the schedule for feminist speakers. Oddly, around here, the best choices are BN (you might have to look but you can find what you want) or used book sellers.

This week I bought Vassily Grossman's "Everything Flows", and will get started this evening. I know it will be depressing, but I think the savagery of communism needs to be read about, talked about and out in the open.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (U7k5w)

129 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.

- Groucho Marx, my kind of Marxist

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at July 21, 2019 10:04 AM (HaL55)

130 Always Love the book thread.

Both Islam books into the cart/watch list.
At least one of them should make it's way into my library in the next year.

Skip; Thanks for the link to rebroadcast of the Apollo 11 mission. If I'd known about it I wouldn't have done much reading in the last week. (Looks easy to re-watch & jump around, 11,000 hrs of audio! if you really want to dig into the department audio channels ).

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 21, 2019 10:04 AM (x8Q/V)

131 123: Well said and so true. Hopefully they pay their people at least 15/hr and fail miserably.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 10:05 AM (U7k5w)

132 127 Austin has a "Bookpeople" book store. It's pretty leftist. Downtown near Whole Foods and REI.
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (UUBmN)

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Stopped shopping at REI a couple of years ago. Entirely because they never had what I wanted ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:05 AM (3JbJY)

133 David was an adulterer who was willing to have his affair partner's husband murdered.

He was also one of God's greatest effectors.

Any of us can do God's work, no matter what we have in our past. We must repent sincerely, as David did (Psalm 51), and yield ourselves to the Lord.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 21, 2019 10:07 AM (rWZ8Y)

134 There is a local independent bookstore downtown called Book Marx. It has a picture of Karl Marx on the front window. At first I thought, hey, a new bookstore! Then I saw the name. Smh.

Posted by: DIY Daddio at July 21, 2019 10:07 AM (RJscS)

135 It is interesting to speculate what might have happened if Napoleon had stopped in 1807 after defeating the Austrians, Prussians and Russians.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
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My favorite alternate-history speculation is about what would have happened had the French kicked the Germans out of the Rhineland in 1936.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 10:07 AM (ta49A)

136
Yeah I don't get that either. It's not like the
Jesuits weren't perpetually plotting against the crown like a bunch of
seditious cocksuckers. I'd have fucked those dickweeds up a lot worse.
Still disinterring Cromwell's rotting carcass and hanging it in chains
is a good how to guide in dealing with McCain when Civil War 2 goes hot.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 09:58 AM (y7DUB)

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Please. I have no love for the Jesuits, but can we tone down the Tudor propaganda just a bit?

Can we all admit that the "English Reformation" was just a power grab by Henry and his successors? It utterly destroyed the separation between church and state, leaving the monarch in absolute power over both - something even the "absolute" monarchs on the Continent didn't achieve.

It wasn't just Jesuits, either. Anyone who didn't bow to the newly-crowed Pope-King got killed.

Cromwell was even more a of power-mad lunatic, toppling the monarchy and then burning Ireland to the ground.

As Churchill noted, he killed huge numbers of people, which made him a Great Man.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:07 AM (HIUfw)

137 I did not know there was such a thing as a famous bookbinder.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at July 21, 2019 10:08 AM (HaL55)

138 81 Weasel! Kindred spirits with Chapman's!
Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:35 AM (i6sQg)
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Yeah, Bro! I grew up sailing on the Chesapeake and my dad made me read it.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 10:08 AM (MVjcR)

139 The depictions of Scottish countryside are lush and the book is well written, but its about subject matter I would not have really cared for until I got to a certain age.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:54 AM (39g3+)


Speaking only for myself, I found the English fixation on their dinky island being as big as a continent delusionally offputting, at least in my slightly more callow youth. Now I just roll my eyes and enjoy it if it's well written.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:08 AM (y7DUB)

140 And yet the Brits honored him during WWII by naming a tank after him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (+y/Ru)

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They were running out of words starting with "C".

Also, it probably pissed of the Irish Republic, which was a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:09 AM (HIUfw)

141 115
Years ago, I used to subscribe to "Proceedings" of the United States Naval Institute. Not sure why I stopped, but recommended if you want to be informed about the latest developments in naval warfare.
Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 09:56 AM (3JbJY)
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Yes, I used to subscribe, too. Stopped when $ became a big issue, about 15 years ago. (Bush/Obama years were a disaster for us.)

They had excellent service. I once called in an order, and happened to mention another book I'd have liked to have ordered, but which was no longer listed. The girl said "I think I've see a copy or two left. Would you like to hold?" And I got it.

But I'm not so interested in up-to-date stuff as in history. I don't entirely ignore it, but it's just not the same after Leyte.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:09 AM (VaN/j)

142 “"He had also learned that there is no use murdering people; there are always so many left, and if you tried to murder them all you would never get anything else done.”

Will Cuppy, "The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 10:10 AM (kQs4Y)

143 They were running out of words starting with "C".

Also, it probably pissed of the Irish Republic, which was a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:09 AM (HIUfw)

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There was a popular British word beginning with "C" which they failed to use ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:10 AM (3JbJY)

144 It is interesting to speculate what might have happened if Napoleon had stopped in 1807 after defeating the Austrians, Prussians and Russians.

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Alexander the Great wept that there were no more worlds to conquer. That makes him an asshole. I see Napoleon as similar although Napoleon at least also did actually improve the administration of government.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:11 AM (+y/Ru)

145 This week I bought Vassily Grossman's "Everything Flows", and will get started this evening. I know it will be depressing, but I think the savagery of communism needs to be read about, talked about and out in the open.

I just finished Grossman's "Stalingrad" ("For A Just Cause"), and am watching the Russian TV mini-series of "Life and Fate" (Grossman's great novel on the Battle of Stalingrad and much else), which is quite good. It's on Amazon Prime Video with English subtitles.

Russian TV does TV mini-series very well, particularly on historical topics. You aren't constrained in having to figure out how to stretch out a TV show for multiple seasons - you address a topic, do a number of episodes covering the topic, and then stop.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:11 AM (I2/tG)

146 Learning "How to Open a New Book" was a thrilling rite of passage in the second or third grade when we got our first actual textbooks.

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I remember that as well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:00 AM (+y/Ru)

And making our own book covers at home on the kitchen table with grocery store paper bags.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:11 AM (cknjq)

147
I just reread Stephen King's The Dead Zone from 1979. . . . Greg Stillson, the villain, is a scumbag, no question about that . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 21, 2019 10:00 AM (4c+5M)

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I recently rewatched the movie version, and it was a hoot watching Martin Sheen play the Stillson character. I couldn't get The West Wing out of my mind.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at July 21, 2019 10:12 AM (NqQAS)

148 There was a popular British word beginning with "C" which they failed to use ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:10 AM (3JbJY)

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It amply applied to the Covenanter. Piece of junk.

Also, Eamon de Valera. Gotta love a guy who sent Nazi Germany condolences on Hitler's death.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:13 AM (HIUfw)

149 And yet the Brits honored him during WWII by naming a tank after him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (+y/Ru)

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They were running out of words starting with "C".

Also, it probably pissed of the Irish Republic, which was a feature, not a bug.
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Well, he was one of their most successful military commanders. Never lost a battle AFAIK, and, as a subordinate, was notable for salvaging battles his superiors ha screwed up.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:13 AM (iB1oa)

150 105 Cromwell gets a bad rap by being disliked by Royal historians. He was no worse than the kings who came before him and in a lot of ways, better. The Irish like to pick him as their particular Devil, but previous kings had been just as awful to them or more so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 09:50 AM (39g3+)
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To say "previous kings had been just as awful to them or more so" is an odd claim. Previous kings had worked with one faction or other (as they did in Scotland). Cromwell was the first to go all out.

It's also an odd defense to say royalist historians (not "royal", royalist) attacked him. Of course they did. And the roundhead historians pumped him up. I don't see the significance of that. The Whig historians were dominant in the 19th C. When I went to college in 1971, it was still a bit revisionist to say Cromwell wasn't all that.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:13 AM (VaN/j)

151 Russian TV does TV mini-series very well,
particularly on historical topics. You aren't constrained in having to
figure out how to stretch out a TV show for multiple seasons - you
address a topic, do a number of episodes covering the topic, and then
stop.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:11 AM (I2/tG)

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Yes they do! I watched "Sophia" a few weeks back it was amazing. Lavish sets, great acting, lots of info about a period in Russian history of which I knew next to nothing.

Plus, Russian chicks are hawt.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:14 AM (HIUfw)

152 Please. I have no love for the Jesuits, but can we tone down the Tudor propaganda just a bit?

The Jesuits were actively plotting on killing Elizabeth despite her not being as rabidly against them as daddy dearest (Mary's execution was done by her sneaky advisers afraid she'd gone wobbly and worked around her). If that's propaganda there's a wide swath of history that has to be reclassified.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

153 On the tank, Churchill was a big Cromwell fan, ultimately. (He does hit him for brutality, though.) Pre-WWI, he tried to get a battleship named for Oliver.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:15 AM (VaN/j)

154 There is a local independent bookstore downtown called Book Marx.

Years ago, there was a bookstore in Berkeley called "Yenan Books". I went in, and they had a set of the "Complete Works of Enver Hoxha" (the former Communist dictator of Albania), which went on for many, many volumes.

I always wondered how many they sold.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:16 AM (I2/tG)

155 138 81 Weasel! Kindred spirits with Chapman's!
Posted by: RI Red at July 21, 2019 09:35 AM (i6sQg)
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Yeah, Bro! I grew up sailing on the Chesapeake and my dad made me read it.
Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 10:08 AM (MVjcR)
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Thinking about this some more, I wasn't so much required to "read" Chapman's as I was to study it.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 10:17 AM (MVjcR)

156 Morning Horde,

Instapundit has a link to an article about Gramscian Damage, arguing that most/all lf the core tenets of leftism are self-perpetuating memes created by the Soviets as part of a thought-war against America.

Anyone have any sources for more information on this?

Posted by: .87c at July 21, 2019 10:18 AM (DmDmL)

157 On the tank, Churchill was a big Cromwell fan, ultimately. (He does hit him for brutality, though.) Pre-WWI, he tried to get a battleship named for Oliver.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:15 AM (VaN/j)
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Hmmm...would the crew on such a ship call themselves "Nollies"?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:18 AM (iB1oa)

158 154 There is a local independent bookstore downtown called Book Marx.

Years ago, there was a bookstore in Berkeley called "Yenan Books". I went in, and they had a set of the "Complete Works of Enver Hoxha" (the former Communist dictator of Albania), which went on for many, many volumes.

I always wondered how many they sold.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:16 AM (I2/tG)

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One of my favorite books as a teen / young adult were the "Death Merchant" series. The first one I read was #5, where he went into Commie-era Albania to take out some Nazis developing nukes in a mountain cave. Gratuitous bloodshed ensued ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:18 AM (3JbJY)

159 Lavish sets, great acting, lots of info about a period in Russian history of which I knew next to nothing.

The Russian government pours a lot of money into Russian historical TV mini-series. They obviously spent a lot of money on "Life and Fate".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:19 AM (I2/tG)

160 Gratuitous bloodshed ensued . . .

Posted by: Kingsnake
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That's the best kind.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 10:19 AM (ta49A)

161 The Jesuits were actively plotting on killing
Elizabeth despite her not being as rabidly against them as daddy dearest
(Mary's execution was done by her sneaky advisers afraid she'd gone
wobbly and worked around her). If that's propaganda there's a wide
swath of history that has to be reclassified.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

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Sure they were. She also killed priests trying to provide sacraments for observant Catholics. In fact, she killed any priest she could find.

So it wasn't just Jesuits. She was actively trying to stamp out any religious dissent from her father's claim to be King-Pope.

And opposing that probably does count as "plotting against her," because when a crowned head makes themselves God's representative on earth, we're all supposed to agree, right?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:19 AM (HIUfw)

162 > My problem with Thor and Correia is they decided to go never Trump and we're vocal about it.

I don't know about Thor (don't much care for his writing, so don't follow him) but I wouldn't characterize Correia as "never Trump". Like many (including me) he was a Trump skeptic. To me, "never Trump" is someone who voted for Hillary rather than Trump, and Correia definitely did not do that.
I feel confident that he will be voting for Trump in 2020.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:20 AM (GDooN)

163 152 Please. I have no love for the Jesuits, but can we tone down the Tudor propaganda just a bit?

The Jesuits were actively plotting on killing Elizabeth despite her not being as rabidly against them as daddy dearest (Mary's execution was done by her sneaky advisers afraid she'd gone wobbly and worked around her). If that's propaganda there's a wide swath of history that has to be reclassified.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)
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No, not "THE Jesuits". Some did. But then, it was already treason to be a Catholic.

The propaganda lies in the presentation of only that side of the story which suits one's views. By modern standards, there are no good guys in the Tudor era, period. The whole kingdom was Pottsylvania.

And of course, that means avowed modern standards. It's not clear how many Walsingham wannabes are in the government today.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:20 AM (VaN/j)

164 160 Gratuitous bloodshed ensued . . .

Posted by: Kingsnake
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That's the best kind.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 10:19 AM (ta49A)

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Indeed.

A few years ago I saw a complete set of the "Death Merchant" series in my local used bookstore. It was quite surprising. Not sure I didn't buy it ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:21 AM (3JbJY)

165 I'm elated to discover there's a thing called "the backwards law" and that it's all about the field where I grow mine fux.



Behold! *spread arms wide* It lies barren and fallow...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Living the Backwards Law at July 21, 2019 10:22 AM (HaL55)

166 I bought The Master and Margarita at Lighthouse Books in San Franshitsco. I showed great restraint by not telling the commie fucks that Bulgakov was mocking the workers paradise under Stalin's nose.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:22 AM (y7DUB)

167 151
Plus, Russian chicks are hawt.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:14 AM (HIUfw)
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A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration, something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

168 >>Thinking about this some more, I wasn't so much required to "read" Chapman's as I was to study it.

It's really more of a textbook but a damned handy one.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2019 10:24 AM (K/2j/)

169 Does Communism, along with its other crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?

Not possible! And women had better sex under socialism!

Posted by: The New York Times! at July 21, 2019 10:25 AM (I2/tG)

170 168 >>Thinking about this some more, I wasn't so much required to "read" Chapman's as I was to study it.

It's really more of a textbook but a damned handy one.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2019 10:24 AM (K/2
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Yep. Pretty sure I still have my copy in the Weasel Library.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 10:25 AM (MVjcR)

171 Admittedly I had to read that book quote a couple of times before it fully registered. The first half was fine but kind of lost me the second half. That's not my kind of prose.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:25 AM (2DOZq)

172 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he
didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration,
something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other
crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

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Malnutrition and constant fear probably isn't conducive to a bright smile.

Maybe the cute ones were claimed by the Nomenklatura and kept out of general circulation.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:25 AM (HIUfw)

173 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration, something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?


I spend a lot of time there in the immediate post-commie era ('91-93) and there were genuine hotties. That's too short a period to incubate new hotties, they must have been pre-existing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 10:27 AM (fuK7c)

174 Years ago, there was a bookstore in Berkeley called
"Yenan Books". I went in, and they had a set of the "Complete Works of
Enver Hoxha" (the former Communist dictator of Albania), which went on
for many, many volumes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 10:16 AM (I2/tG)

Was that in a weird little alley off of Telegraph? I think I remember it, but I don't remember the name....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2019 10:27 AM (wYseH)

175 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration, something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)


Maybe. The most earthily appealing woman I've ever met was a rooski exile. It moved just thinking about her.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:28 AM (y7DUB)

176 They had to have hit commie women. Where else would they get their Honey Pots?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:29 AM (2DOZq)

177 175 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration, something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

Maybe. The most earthily appealing woman I've ever met was a rooski exile. It moved just thinking about her.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:28 AM (y7DUB)

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Experiencing a little "glasnost", tovarich?

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:29 AM (3JbJY)

178 Was that in a weird little alley off of Telegraph? I think I remember it, but I don't remember the name....

You're probably thinking of Revolution Books, run by the Revolutionary Communist Party. Always a good place to go if you wanted a Stalin poster.

Posted by: The New York Times! at July 21, 2019 10:30 AM (I2/tG)

179 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he
didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration,
something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other
crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?



Waitlist for woman is 5 years, Comrade.

Waitlist for good-looking woman, 2 years. And must be Inner Party member.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 10:30 AM (oVJmc)

180 I followed the Amazon link to Sword and Scimitar and saw the following in the "Sponsored products related to this item" section at the bottom of the page:

President Trump and the New World Order: The Ramtha Trump Prophecy.

The accompanying blurb reads:

"It's time to know what Trump knows. Benevolent aliens exist. He has met them. They are on his side as he drains the swamp. MAGA."

Okay . . . (feverishly readies tin-foil hat)

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at July 21, 2019 10:30 AM (NqQAS)

181 Maybe the cute ones were claimed by the Nomenklatura and kept out of general circulation.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:25 AM (HIUfw)

Yup.....the Red Army, KGB and Party Bosses had whores a plenty. They would even helicopter them to their private dachas for booze fueled hunting trips and orgies.

Woodstock had nothing on the Soviet Big Brass.

Just like the democrats today.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 10:31 AM (Z+IKu)

182 Great research, but could do without the meandering asides that have little to do with the crime series.

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I have begun to read Furious Hours by Casey Cep about a black preacher who apparently murdered six family members over the years for the insurance money but always escaped acquittal (but was eventually shot and killed by another relative in the courthouse immediately following his last acquittal). It happened in Alabama beginning in the 1970s but we are treated to a retelling of the Scottsboro boys from 40 years earlier and everything else for the purpose of showing the racism of the Alabamans. Why? This is about black-on-black crime that white law enforcement tried to solve but that white juries continued to acquit the killer. (The guy who shot the good reverend was also acquitted despite 300 eyewitnesses.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:31 AM (+y/Ru)

183 161
So it wasn't just Jesuits. She was actively trying to stamp out any religious dissent from her father's claim to be King-Pope.

And opposing that probably does count as "plotting against her," because when a crowned head makes themselves God's representative on earth, we're all supposed to agree, right?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:19 AM (HIUfw)
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No, Elizabeth never made the claims Henry did. He was, granted, about the one case of actual Caesaro-papism in the West. But Elizabeth never shot for that level.

She did, however, insist on uniformity, and that meant no Catholics (or Anabaptists, for that matter.) Of course, it was the 16th C, and everyone thought a realm should have only one religion.

There's an important distinction to be made, though. For ages people had believed that kings were "God's representatives", but that did NOT entail Absolutism, which was a new idea. As late as Mallory, you can see that a king was not above the law, but in the 16th C the notion that the law comes from the king arises. And of course, it's still with us, if you just substitute "government" for "king".

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:31 AM (VaN/j)

184 I wouldn't trust a Russian Bride as far as I could throw her boyfriend who will end up killing you.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:32 AM (2DOZq)

185 President Trump and the New World Order: The Ramtha Trump Prophecy.

The accompanying blurb reads:

"It's time to know what Trump knows. Benevolent aliens exist. He has met them. They are on his side as he drains the swamp. MAGA."
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Oh, fer cryin' out loud...when am I gonna get my teleporters and death rays, then?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:33 AM (iB1oa)

186 The left has managed to deplatform certain ideas by pressuring Amazon to remove books, but are libraries next? One way is that books can be stolen and not replaced by the library, or the left can pressure the library to remove a book from the shelves altogether or have it moved to a special collection so that a patron can't find it easily. Library ebook availability can be manipulated just as easily as Amazon.
Suddenly the idea of banning books that the left has viewed as anathema to freedom is now a tool for their own use.

Posted by: next in line at July 21, 2019 10:34 AM (XGBQ3)

187 I am currently reading Mark Twain's The Innocents Abroad. He has a lot of very complimentary things to say about Napoleon III.
He has a lot of very uncomplimentary things to say about the Muzzies. Some things never change.

Posted by: cool breeze at July 21, 2019 10:35 AM (UGKMd)

188 Oh, fer cryin' out loud...when am I gonna get my teleporters and death rays, then?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:33 AM (iB1oa)
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The really unfair thing is that you have to teleport to the future to get your teleporter that you have to use to get the death ray.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 10:35 AM (kQs4Y)

189 BTW, my wife is often mistaken for Slavic, but is actually Welsh descent. And hawt.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:35 AM (VaN/j)

190 182 Great research, but could do without the meandering asides that have little to do with the crime series.

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I have begun to read Furious Hours by Casey Cep about a black preacher who apparently murdered six family members over the years for the insurance money but always escaped acquittal (but was eventually shot and killed by another relative in the courthouse immediately following his last acquittal). It happened in Alabama beginning in the 1970s but we are treated to a retelling of the Scottsboro boys from 40 years earlier and everything else for the purpose of showing the racism of the Alabamans. Why? This is about black-on-black crime that white law enforcement tried to solve but that white juries continued to acquit the killer. (The guy who shot the good reverend was also acquitted despite 300 eyewitnesses.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:31 AM (+y/Ru)

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You can't win for losing.

Along similar lines, "In Broad Daylight" by Harry N. MacLean is about a killing in front of dozen of witnesses -- not one of whom spoke to police -- in small town Missouri. The "victim" desperately needed to be dealt with, for decades, but the legal system wouldn't protect the town from the "victim", so they protected themselves.

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:36 AM (3JbJY)

191 The really unfair thing is that you have to teleport to the future to get your teleporter that you have to use to get the death ray.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 10:35 AM (kQs4Y)

Wasn't that the script from the first Star Trek movie with Chris Pine?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:36 AM (2DOZq)

192 I originally joined the naval institute primarily for the book discounts. Dropped it after I realized I'd always be able to find books much cheaper elsewhere & if I could wait.
I will probably rejoin at some point, I kept it up many years just for Proceedings.

Internet has killed most subscriptions for me.
At one point I think I had a dozen active: history, aviation, archaeology, science, modeling.
I've been down to 2 for last decade: The Hook (Naval Aviation) & Fine Scale Modeling.
Also local newspapers so blatantly one sided. If they were fair & balanced I'd have never left.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 21, 2019 10:37 AM (x8Q/V)

193 Good morning.

If there are any 'Ron's near Madison, Georgia, I'm at the truck stop on I-20 in case anyone wants to bring me a nice grilled steak or a lasagna or something. *Wink*

I know jack shit about Napoleon. Except for trying to conquer Europe what made him a bad dude exactly?

And why wasn't he executed?

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 21, 2019 10:37 AM (AvqJ/)

194 The propaganda lies in the presentation of only that
side of the story which suits one's views. By modern standards, there
are no good guys in the Tudor era, period. The whole kingdom was
Pottsylvania.



And of course, that means avowed modern standards. It's not clear how many Walsingham wannabes are in the government today.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:20 AM (VaN/j)

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I think if you look objectively at Henry VIII - that is, set aside the period feel, the larger than life character, etc. - he's pretty much a grotesque monster.

He broke with Rome for political reasons and then used that to claim some sort of theological justification. His daughter went further and even hagiography admits she killed people and played dirty tricks.

The scene in one of the movies with Kate Blanchette where she locks out the pro-Catholic churchmen to get her bill through. Ha ha ha! Funny little trick.

The part they leave out is any clergy that refuse to acknowledge her as the supreme religious authority in England got a painful and prolonged death.

And many of them did so.

Not a beheading, either. Drawing and quartering, disembowling - basically the worst way they could think of to kill someone.

All in the name of asserting her claim to supreme religious authority.

Again, without Shakespeare and sonnets, funky bodices and such, it would be generally acknowledged as a time of bloody tyranny.

Was the throne threatened? Sure. How could she have secured it? By going back to the centuries-old relationship with Rome. Ah, but that would cost money and power, so no sale.

But Protestants wrote most of the history, so we must blame those dastardly Papists, who got what they deserved!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:38 AM (HIUfw)

195 On pirated books:
Your books will be pirated as long as they are perceived as marketable. Cheer up, that's a good sign!
And what are you going to do? There are third-party companies who will gladly take your money and send "cease and desist" letters, which do no good at all. Someone, somewhere is supplementing their meager income by copying your book into a pdf. Embrace it!

Posted by: artemis at July 21, 2019 10:38 AM (AwPyG)

196 Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:31 AM (VaN/j)

Thank you. Other than being a spiteful bitch to the wives of her bang toys Liz seemed like a benevolent monarch, particularly for the times. That doesn't mean she wasn't pig headedly ignorant about some things but she had a layer of advisers pursuing their own agendas.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:41 AM (y7DUB)

197 It strikes me that someone who is downloading books from a dodgy Belarussian site is someone who is extremely unlikely to be buying your book anyway.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:41 AM (GDooN)

198 She did, however, insist on uniformity, and that
meant no Catholics (or Anabaptists, for that matter.) Of course, it was
the 16th C, and everyone thought a realm should have only one religion.




Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:31 AM (VaN/j)

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How many people have been killed for the sake of making things "uniform?"

Not just Elizabeth, but everywhere. To quote Caligula: "Aren't people awful?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:42 AM (HIUfw)

199 Wasn't that the script from the first Star Trek movie with Chris Pine?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:36 AM (2DOZq)

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It had a script? News to me.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:43 AM (HIUfw)

200 @197
Exactly.
Anyone's who's willing to rip you off will happily do so.

Posted by: artemis at July 21, 2019 10:43 AM (AwPyG)

201 Henry VIII capitalized on grassroots anti-Papal feeling that had been building in England for a long time. Even in the mid-fifteenth century, people were prone to saying things like, "The Pope's curse would not kill a fly", and were resentful of the expansion of the rich and powerful monastic establishments.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:44 AM (iB1oa)

202 It didn't help that they were trying to kill Elizabeth.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:44 AM (2DOZq)

203 Not a beheading, either. Drawing and quartering, disembowling - basically the worst way they could think of to kill someone.

This is how you make Antifa go away.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:44 AM (y7DUB)

204 Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 21, 2019 10:37 AM (AvqJ/)

Wow. The town I grew up in. The historic home district is something everyone should visit at least once. The only town Sherman refused to burn.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:45 AM (cknjq)

205 Qd5+

Posted by: jsg at July 21, 2019 10:46 AM (/PoaU)

206 Henry VIII capitalized on grassroots anti-Papal
feeling that had been building in England for a long time. Even in the
mid-fifteenth century, people were prone to saying things like, "The
Pope's curse would not kill a fly", and were resentful of the expansion
of the rich and powerful monastic establishments.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:44 AM (iB1oa)

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The people resentful were the rich landowners, who eventually got them.

It was a disaster for poor people, who depended on that generosity. Even Churchill noted this.

Basically Henry looked at the social safety net the Church provided, took it and sold it to the highest bidders.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:46 AM (HIUfw)

207 The only town Sherman refused to burn.
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Did the mayor give Sherman the secret Masonic handshake?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:47 AM (iB1oa)

208 > Not a beheading, either. Drawing and quartering, disembowling - basically the worst way they could think of to kill someone.

> All in the name of asserting her claim to supreme religious authority.

Of course, the Catholics never did anything like that, at all.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:47 AM (GDooN)

209 Again, without Shakespeare and sonnets, funky bodices and such, it would be generally acknowledged as a time of bloody tyranny.

-
Wild Bill Shakespeare documented a lot of Brit bloody tyranny.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2019 10:47 AM (+y/Ru)

210 The historic home district is something everyone should visit at least once.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:45 AM (

Think an 18-wheeler can squeeze through?

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (AvqJ/)

211 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he didn't see a single good looking girl

I think the girls kept their heads down and tried not to be noticed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (39g3+)

212 It didn't help that they were trying to kill Elizabeth.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 10:44 AM (2DOZq)

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How did her family get the throne again?

IIRC, the Tudors whacked a lot of potential claimants themselves.

But when the crown does it, it's "execution," not killing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (HIUfw)

213 Yadda, yadda, yadda ...

About the subject of this thread: Books?

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (3JbJY)

214 Congrats to 'ette Celia Hayes for scoring a mention complete with book cover! Yay to all the moron authors and happy Sunday

Posted by: zeera Gimme some 12 bar blues with a B3 please at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (CAJL/)

215 Did the mayor give Sherman the secret Masonic handshake?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:47 AM (iB1oa)

Better.

Home cooked food. If I remember the story correctly. 29 years ago and all.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:49 AM (cknjq)

216 About Napoleon, I'm not at all well read on his life but will only state that he filled the vacuum when a world power went completely feral.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 10:49 AM (y7DUB)

217 And making our own book covers at home on the kitchen table with grocery store paper bags.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:11 AM (cknjq)


Oh yes! We did that, too, with out school textbooks.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 21, 2019 10:50 AM (smcnr)

218 But when the crown does it, it's "execution," not killing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (HIUfw)
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I prefer "judicial murder" myself, but that's just me.

Posted by: Hank Tudor at July 21, 2019 10:50 AM (iB1oa)

219 About the subject of this thread: Books?

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (3JbJY)


Technically, yes, but...

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 21, 2019 10:50 AM (smcnr)

220 Think an 18-wheeler can squeeze through?
Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 21, 2019 10:48 AM (AvqJ/)

Trying to think of where you could park and walk around.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:51 AM (cknjq)

221 The bastards at KISS LIBRARY stole my humble diet book. They have put it in PDF and ePUB and now it is out there for anyone to pass on. It was only up in Amazon's Kidle Direct. This could mean that Amazon is vulnerable.
https://kisslibrary.net/book/9d8bfe2f591e46d9bf19

Posted by: Chris Cassone at July 21, 2019 10:51 AM (ue4sq)

222 It's scary how much Amazon customizes what you see.

I was disappointed checking my Sword and Scimitar page, I see no link to Ramtha Trump Prophecy. I guess the aliens (Gray's?) didn't want me to know about this.

I justify using them knowing that a tiny tiny fraction of my money is indirectly supporting Space X. (Blue Origin's more important competitor)

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 21, 2019 10:51 AM (x8Q/V)

223 One of the most interesting aspects of reading journals from the 1700s is how different their perception of time was. We get irritated if it takes a few extra seconds to load a website. They could take days and weeks to accomplish 'simple' matters like providing clothing for a family or adding to a house, or just getting to the next town. It is one of the biggest disconnects between today and the past. Hell, just getting a wood or coal burning stove ready for use took knowledge and time.

I'm not saying it was better back then but it certainly is different.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 10:53 AM (bmdz3)

224 Robert, in all seriousness, heading east or west on 20?

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 10:53 AM (cknjq)

225 Just checked, Kiss Library hasn't sucked in my book. Yet.

Posted by: zeera Gimme some 12 bar blues with a B3 please at July 21, 2019 10:54 AM (CAJL/)

226 Okay, my stomach's really rumbling. Off to make an Italian sausage and cheese omelet.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:55 AM (iB1oa)

227 It's been a while since I read it, but if you're interested in the interplay between Elizabeth, Shakespeare, and Royal Politics and Declared Religion, I would recommend the book _Shadowplay_ by Clare Asquith. There's another similar book out there, but I can't remember the title. Let me search a little bit more.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, and Called It Brad at July 21, 2019 10:55 AM (Clxcy)

228 Of course, the Catholics never did anything like that, at all.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:47 AM (GDooN)

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Outside of the papal states and some bishoprics in the Holy Roman Empire, the Church had no temporal power to punish.

Secular rulers had to do the dirty work and they could (and sometimes did) commute sentences.

The point is that Tudor apologists have to fall back on "Well, other than the systematic execution of people who refused to bow to the new religion (which included Protestant dissenters as well as Catholic), Elizabeth was a pretty decent ruler."

They never say why that was do damn important. It wouldn't have been hard to make the "problem" go away and nothing much would have changed.

Well, the Crown would have had less money and power, which is why she was willing to kill to keep both.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:56 AM (HIUfw)

229 They could take days and weeks to accomplish 'simple' matters like providing clothing for a family or adding to a house, or just getting to the next town. It is one of the biggest disconnects between today and the past.


This may be oversharing but that's a point I used to yell at Mommy. She's the type who if she expects me at 5:00 is convinced by 5:15 that I'm dead in a ditch.

So I'd say this trip 200 years ago would take weeks, you wouldn't know what day I would arrive if the mail happened to get there faster than I did. I will not ever tell you when to expect me, just that I'll be visiting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 10:57 AM (fuK7c)

230 Morning horde.

I'm reading Romanovs:1613 to 1918 by Simon Sebag Montefiore.

I'm at the point where tsar Alexander II and Napoleon go at it.

Long and fascinating read.

Posted by: mpfs, Waiter, I'll have the Juan de Fuca Plate at July 21, 2019 10:57 AM (Nn6zC)

231 > Hell, just getting a wood or coal burning stove ready for use took knowledge and time.

Indeed. I grew up with wood-burning heat.
Eventually you get so good at it that you can wake up cold in the middle of the night, stir up the fire and add wood, and go back to bed without ever waking up completely.
I was a piker compared to earlier generations, though. Both of my great-grandmothers could do stuff like make cakes in a wood range, something that can't even imagine attempting (we had a propane cook stove by the time I came around).



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:57 AM (GDooN)

232 201 Henry VIII capitalized on grassroots anti-Papal feeling that had been building in England for a long time. Even in the mid-fifteenth century, people were prone to saying things like, "The Pope's curse would not kill a fly", and were resentful of the expansion of the rich and powerful monastic establishments.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 10:44 AM (iB1oa)
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The "grassroots" part is a myth. The peasantry weren't on board, at all, revolting against the King. It was merchants and nobles who drove the Reformation.

C S Lewis points out that one of the shrewd things Elizabeth did was resist further liturgical changes, which the common people would notice, more than theological ones, which they wouldn't.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 10:58 AM (VaN/j)

233 @223
I think it's the concept of specialization.
Stone age people (even today) are using all their efforts trying to survive. When people can lay off tasks to others, everyone gets more efficient as a whole.

Posted by: artemis at July 21, 2019 10:59 AM (AwPyG)

234 > Secular rulers had to do the dirty work
If it's done at the behest of the church, it doesn't matter who actually lights the fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:59 AM (GDooN)

235 Speaking of concepts of time, my daughter is managing some greenhouses in Denali Park for a lodge 90 miles into the sticks. Even though the growing season is short in terms of number of days, the length of the summer days means that something taking at least three weeks to grow here is ready ten days after being put in the ground.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 11:03 AM (y7DUB)

236 How to open a book: new technology requires tech support

https://youtu.be/pQHX-SjgQvQ

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2019 11:03 AM (vJw+j)

237 The best thing about history is that it keeps changing. Gotta be on your toes to study history.

Posted by: klaftern at July 21, 2019 11:04 AM (RuIsu)

238 223
One of the most interesting aspects of reading journals from the 1700s
is how different their perception of time was. We get irritated if it
takes a few extra seconds to load a website. They could take days and
weeks to accomplish 'simple' matters like providing clothing for a
family or adding to a house, or just getting to the next town. It is one
of the biggest disconnects between today and the past. Hell, just
getting a wood or coal burning stove ready for use took knowledge and
time.



I'm not saying it was better back then but it certainly is different.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 10:53 AM (bmdz3)

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Dafoe's Diary of the Plague Year is great. Fairly quick read, too.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:04 AM (HIUfw)

239 I have spent the past several weeks enjoying the Moron Recommended "Martha's Vineyard Mystery" series by Philip R. Craig.

These are enjoyable but not overly-challenging mysteries and involve the main characters doing a lot eating and imbibing of spirits between solving murders.

Right now I'm on Book 7, Death on a Vineyard Beach. I believe there are about 19 books in all.

I particularly enjoy the time setting the book series began in: back in the late 80s before the internet. The protagonist actually uses the library to find out information!

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at July 21, 2019 11:05 AM (NqQAS)

240 228
The point is that Tudor apologists have to fall back on "Well, other than the systematic execution of people who refused to bow to the new religion (which included Protestant dissenters as well as Catholic), Elizabeth was a pretty decent ruler."

They never say why that was do damn important. It wouldn't have been hard to make the "problem" go away and nothing much would have changed.

Well, the Crown would have had less money and power, which is why she was willing to kill to keep both.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:56 AM (HIUfw)
________

To be fair to Elizabeth, it's understandable why she was paranoid about her position, given her upbringing. And she pretty much knew that had she gone the other way, there were many in the new nobility who would have been quick to off her.

Once again, for the umpteenth time, I'll recommend the intro Lewis wrote to his OHEL volume. It's online, and should be mandatory reading in all schools. As usual, he tries to be evenhanded, though later in the volume his Anglican allegiance does show. But then, it's especially strong when speaking of Hooker, who has got to be one of the most sympathetic Protestants to a Catholic.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 11:05 AM (VaN/j)

241 Captain Hate, we're talking weed, aren't we?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 11:06 AM (kQs4Y)

242 that pic of the books reminded me a the "five foot shelf" of books, which I had to Bing to realize is just "The Harvard Classics". The whole set is on Ebay for $240 delivered, or online for free.


I have so much stacked up to read, I'd need the super condensed versions to get through them. But I learn a lot just listening to the moron horde scholars discuss Europe's evolution, and "contextualizing" some of the little history I did learn.


My summary is the America emerged as exceptional out of a revolution against the kings and popes pretending to be Divine, or at least pretending to be the middleman. And what the left has done for 70 years (or since our founding) is to try to restore central control, put man "back in chains" of bondage to centralized government, where man is servant to the (fake) elite families.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 11:08 AM (Cus5s)

243 The other book might be _The Quest For Shakespeare_ by Joseph Pierce.

Both books are worth reading for a good background on Tudor England and the society thereof.

The thing is, both books tend to start a "question cascade" about how much we tend to ignore about history because we learn in history class about Henry VII, Henry VIII, Bloody Mary, and Elizabeth, but not the people who made up the country.

For instance: Shakespeare's wife's clan's head was so obvious in his recusancy that he was executed by the state for it. Which leads down to: wait, we thought Shakespeare didn't have much of a relationship with his wife (since we interpret all the evidence that way)... might that be wrong? But also goes on to "Wait, _England_ had clan groups and chieftains?" and "Ordinary people, not just high church officials, etc. and big-time aristocrats, were executed for their religion?"

Along the way you begin to think the Never-Stratfordians (I forget what the other term for them is) are full of bunkum.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, and Called It Brad at July 21, 2019 11:09 AM (Clxcy)

244 229 They could take days and weeks to accomplish 'simple' matters like providing clothing for a family or adding to a house, or just getting to the next town. It is one of the biggest disconnects between today and the past.


This may be oversharing but that's a point I used to yell at Mommy. She's the type who if she expects me at 5:00 is convinced by 5:15 that I'm dead in a ditch.

So I'd say this trip 200 years ago would take weeks, you wouldn't know what day I would arrive if the mail happened to get there faster than I did. I will not ever tell you when to expect me, just that I'll be visiting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 10:57 AM (fuK7c)
_______

I've seen that effect in people talking about naval history. Though in a sense they know it's not true, deep down people will often show there's an assumption that something like WWII communications were applicable to the age of sail.

One very significant fact that comes out, but is too often forgotten, is just how much an admiral or general on a foreign station WAS the government of his country. This is one area where Collingwood outshines Nelson, at least when Emma Hamilton came into the equation.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 11:09 AM (VaN/j)

245 I just discovered, thanks to Skip, that my1599 Geneva Bible is published by Tolle Lege

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 21, 2019 11:09 AM (u5LFV)

246 53 Reading 'Churchill Walking with Destiny'. At over a thousand pages, it is an extremely detailed look at his life, perhaps everything you ever wanted to know about Churchill and more. Andrew Roberts had access to far more source material than the many previous biographers which explains its length. Given that Churchill is one of the half dozen most important men in history, I am happy to dedicate the time to it. I have seen several interviews of Roberts and he seems to be genuinely enamored with Churchill and realizes how he did so much to save Western Civilization.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 21, 2019 09:24 AM (KnT4m)

A damn good book. I'm plowing my way through it now and because I routinely travel to OH on business I left my copy there and I read one to three chapters at a time per visit. I figure I'll be done by the end of the year.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:09 AM (/0HPZ)

247 LOL. No, more like legal crops. I didn't see any hiking around the tundra and arboreal forests. I'm not sure it can grow in those conditions even though it's called weed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 11:11 AM (y7DUB)

248 237 The best thing about history is that it keeps changing. Gotta be on your toes to study history.
..

Just like the climate.

Posted by: AGW ALARMIST at July 21, 2019 11:11 AM (MAstk)

249 If it's done at the behest of the church, it doesn't matter who actually lights the fire.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:59 AM (GDooN)

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Sure it does, because the king (or duke or whatever) is ultimately the one in charge and if the case seemed unjust (say a bishop settling scores) the crown would inflict a minor punishment.

And yes, there was an interplay here - the crown would finger somebody and have the Church investigate them for heresy because there was nothing else to go on, the Church would convict and then the guy would be duly executed.

The Templars are the perfect example of this.

The point is that church and state were at least rival centers of power, as opposed to the Protestant model with merged the two.

That's why I find it ironic that Protestant histories try to claim that they are free-thinking individualists and value the separation of church and state.

In practice, no. Separating church and state became a thing in the Americas because so many non-conformists fled (or were exiled) here. And Catholics were happy to see the benefit as well.

By the way, merging church and state made heresy (or nonconformism) outright treason, immediately punishable by death.

In Catholic areas, you could be a heretic and simply repent. Can't repent from treason, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:11 AM (HIUfw)

250 231 > Hell, just getting a wood or coal burning stove ready for use took knowledge and time.

Indeed. I grew up with wood-burning heat.
Eventually you get so good at it that you can wake up cold in the middle of the night, stir up the fire and add wood, and go back to bed without ever waking up completely.
I was a piker compared to earlier generations, though. Both of my great-grandmothers could do stuff like make cakes in a wood range, something that can't even imagine attempting (we had a propane cook stove by the time I came around).



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:57 AM (GDooN)

=====

"The Man on the Train", mentioned earlier, targetted wood-burning families, using their own axe (blunt side) to kill them.

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 11:12 AM (3JbJY)

251 234 > Secular rulers had to do the dirty work
If it's done at the behest of the church, it doesn't matter who actually lights the fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:59 AM (GDooN)


We didn't do it.

Posted by: Billy Joel at July 21, 2019 11:12 AM (NWiLs)

252 179 A friend went to the USSR in the 70s, and said he
didn't see a single good looking girl. Even assuming exaggeration,
something has obviously changed. Does Communism, along with its other
crimes, destroy women's beauty, too?


Waitlist for woman is 5 years, Comrade.

Waitlist for good-looking woman, 2 years. And must be Inner Party member.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 10:30 AM (oVJmc)

Any kind of ripple in humanity terrifies the Left, which demands absolute uniformity. They CANNOT TOLERATE the idea that someone might be better off than someone else at...anything. Anne Applebaum put it best, perhaps, when she stated in an article something along the lines that even unusual beauty was something to fear in the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:13 AM (/0HPZ)

253 The Irish Republic has reasons for being strictly neutral during WWII. They didn't sell materiel to the Nazis like the Swedes

And sending condolences on Hitlers death was a neat joke, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 21, 2019 11:14 AM (0NKIC)

254 This week/month my husband has been absorbed in Middlemarch and banging on about the important "lessons" it teaches. We got into a bit of a disagreement about literature and lessons and how I couldn't point to a single person who made a great decision based on George Eliot, Jane Austen, Charles Dicken, or Steinbeck despite their exposure to the "lessons" taught. Madame Bovary has probably not dissuaded a single guy from marrying a pretty but social climbing young woman who does not live up to expectations (in fact demolishes his well being), so why on earth would Middlemarch keep young women from marrying useless scholars, especially when they also have money?

I'm ready to burn Middlemarch on the grill.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)

255 234 > Secular rulers had to do the dirty work
If it's done at the behest of the church, it doesn't matter who actually lights the fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:59 AM (GDooN)
______

Actually, it does make a difference. The trouble with the secular rulers is that they cut corners the Church says they shouldn't. And the Church - even in corrupt eras - has a better record of consistency than politicians. E.g., the Inquisition was a barrier to witchcraft trials.

The other thing that Protestant histories don't notice about the early modern era is how much the Church in Catholic countries was dominated by the state. The days of Canossa were long gone. Catholic as well as Protestant countries tried to make the Church a department of state. They just couldn't quite make it stick. Odd, that.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 11:15 AM (VaN/j)

256 252 ... Anne Applebaum put it best, perhaps, when she stated in an article something along the lines that even unusual beauty was something to fear in the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:13 AM (/0HPZ)

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I beg to differ, Kurt Vonnegut put it best, in "Harrison Bergeron" ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at July 21, 2019 11:15 AM (3JbJY)

257 Currently I'm dipping into the ghost stories of M.R. James, whose "Casting the Runes," for example, became the classic creep movie Curse of the Demon. His " 'Oh, Whistle, and I'll Come to You, My Lad' " is very readable still, and very disturbing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (4c+5M)



Love MR James.

He's just the best for reading on a cool Fall or cold Winter night as the wind blows outside.


Wonderful writer as well as ghost story teller.

I particularly like the writing magic trick of showing you most, if not all, of the information then pull the readers thinking right out from under them. Boo!

"Oh, Whistle..." is a wonderful example of this.

If you've never reading it, try to find a version that doesn't have illustrations as they always manage to spoil the BOO!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 11:15 AM (2EMYr)

258
Any kind of ripple in humanity terrifies the
Left, which demands absolute uniformity. They CANNOT TOLERATE the idea
that someone might be better off than someone else at...anything. Anne
Applebaum put it best, perhaps, when she stated in an article something
along the lines that even unusual beauty was something to fear in the
Soviet Union.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:13 AM (/0HPZ)

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And yet Applebaum is another raving Never Trumper now.

Orange Man Bad claims yet another formerly-respected author.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:16 AM (HIUfw)

259 127 Austin has a "Bookpeople" book store. It's pretty leftist. Downtown near Whole Foods and REI.
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 10:03 AM (UUBmN)

AUSTIN? The capital of the People's Republic of Travis County, "pretty Leftist"? NO!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:16 AM (/0HPZ)

260 He is also startling to whistle showtunes....bleh

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:17 AM (U7k5w)

261 So is I bad thing to admit remembering those pants?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2019 11:17 AM (axyOa)

262 The thing is, both books tend to start a "question
cascade" about how much we tend to ignore about history because we learn
in history class about Henry VII, Henry VIII, Bloody Mary, and
Elizabeth, but not the people who made up the country.


Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, and Called It Brad at July 21, 2019 11:09 AM (Clxcy)

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Yes, that's what I'm driving at. We have these assertions made up by Protestant historians assuring us that the "common people" absolutely wanted a reformation. Except there is zero proof of this, and in fact tons of proof of the opposite.

One of the reasons Henry (and Elizabeth) were so paranoid was that they knew the common people were unhappy with their religious policies. There were a number of local rebellions (naturally attributed to Jesuit spies - gotta have a scapegoat) in favor of restoring the faith of their ancestors.

They also had to kill a lot of their own clergy as well.

Again, historians tell us that other than these killings, everything was peachy.

Sure it was.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:21 AM (HIUfw)

263 One other thing about earlier times is that, reading either Pepys or William Byrd, it's pretty clear you were going around half-crocked most of the time. They needed a half pint of rum just to get through the ordeal of getting up in the morning. And didn't stop then. Kind of like being in college in the 70s.

Which brings up a point on which the Luddites had a case. Previous to the rise of factories, they would do their work at home. They had quotas. Some were assiduous, of course, but many lived as we students did in the 70s. They had Sundays off, of course, but would also "worship at the church of St Monday". Or Tuesday. Then it was all-nighters to make quota.

Factories meant they lost control of their working day, being always under the eyes of a boss. Kind of like Cube Land today. And so far as that one point goes, I'm sympathetic.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 11:21 AM (VaN/j)

264 Good grief it's hot.

Posted by: Weasel at July 21, 2019 11:21 AM (MVjcR)

265 238 ... "Dafoe's Diary of the Plague Year is great. Fairly quick read, too."

AH, Thanks for the suggestion.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 11:21 AM (bmdz3)

266 Good grief it's hot.
Posted by: Weasel

Amen, brutha.

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2019 11:24 AM (arJlL)

267 And yet Applebaum is another raving Never Trumper now.

Orange Man Bad claims yet another formerly-respected author.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:16 AM (HIUfw)

Applebaum always confused me in that regard. She writes good, quality, well researched books that extol the dangers of totalitarianism (Iron Curtain is a warning about what happens when civil society is destroyed - the Left and the U.S. government at ALL LEVELS is AT WAR with civil society and people better wake up and notice, but anyways) but she is still very much a Statist. I don't get it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:24 AM (/0HPZ)

268 I was a piker compared to earlier generations, though. Both of my
great-grandmothers could do stuff like make cakes in a wood range,
something that can't even imagine attempting (we had a propane cook
stove by the time I came around).



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 10:57 AM (GDooN)

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My grandmother had a wood-burning stove in her kitchen. She told me that they would bank up the fire and set a pot of water on it and then go out into the fields and pick the corn. By the time it was cleaned and ready the water was good and hot.

She said it was the best corn you could ever eat, cooking it that fresh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:24 AM (HIUfw)

269 Glittering Images, by Camile Paglia. Something of an overview of art history while discussing what's wrong with modern art.

"One reason for the marginalization of the fine arts today is that artists are too often addressing other artists and the in-group of hip cognoscenti."

Or

"Nothing is more hackneyed than the liberal dogma that shock value confers automatic importance on an artwork."

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 21, 2019 11:25 AM (JK7Jw)

270 As to the quote of Neal Stephenson up top - this will earn me the wrath of the thread, I suspect, but I hated Stephenson. Cryptonomicon had a lot of promise but I wound up hating the book. (Seriously. You do not need to spend ten-twelve pages describing how to eat Captain Crunch cereal.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 21, 2019 11:26 AM (/0HPZ)

271
Wolfus Aurelius,


If you like MR James, try-

"Antique Dust" by Robert Westall

He's just as good as James and somewhat similar. Excellent book of supernatural/ghost short stories. Wonderful writer.

You can find "AD" on Amazon on paper and the Kindle.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 11:26 AM (2EMYr)

272 265: I just bought a Kindle edition, I think I'll talk about it all day for weeks...

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:27 AM (U7k5w)

273 Factories meant they lost control of their working
day, being always under the eyes of a boss. Kind of like Cube Land
today. And so far as that one point goes, I'm sympathetic.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 11:21 AM (VaN/j)

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Urbanization also killed the little garden common people had in their village. Instead of supplementing their diet with vegetables in their intensely-cultivated plot, they were forced to buy it out of their wages and they were at the mercy of the people shipping it into town.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:27 AM (HIUfw)

274 Re the pants, I narrowly escaped those but fashion for a kid in the early/mid 80s wasn't a hell of a lot better, especially when your mother made it her mission to make you look as retarded as possible due to a complete lack of fashion sense and inexplicable desire to sabotage all possibility of being accepted by my peers.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 11:28 AM (NWiLs)

275 She said it was the best corn you could ever eat, cooking it that fresh.


I believe that. We did an experiment in jr. high with test tubes and things that changed color which showed that corn was sugar on day one and starch on day two. I can't eat any other than same day corn.

I passed a farm stand in Pennsylvania the other day that had a corn sign up. It was a twisty fast two lane road with no easy turn-arounds but I thought, self, you'll be bound to see another farmstand with corn in this neck of the woods.

Guess what self didn't find.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

276 Elizabeth

Orange Lady bad !

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

277 Glittering Images, by Camile Paglia. Something of an overview of art history while discussing what's wrong with modern art.


Posted by: Lirio100 at July 21, 2019 11:25 AM (JK7Jw)

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I remember reading her back in the early 90s when p.c. culture first popped up.

It went away and we hoped it was gone forever, but like Sauron's orcs, they were simply multiplying their forces in the darkness, waiting for a chance to strike.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:29 AM (HIUfw)

278 From "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" by Mark Manson:

By not giving a fuck that you feel bad, you short-circuit the Feedback Loop from Hell; you say to yourself, "I feel like shit, but who gives a fuck?" And then, as if sprinkled by magic fuck-giving fairy dust, you stop hating yourself for feeling so bad.

Wanting positive experience is a negative experience; accepting negative experience is a positive experience. It's what the philosopher Alan Watts used to refer to as "the backwards law" -- the idea that the more you pursue feeling better all the time, the less satisfied you become, as pursuing something only reinforces the fact that you lack it in the first place.

In my life, I have given a fuck about many things. I have also not given a fuck about many things. And like the road not taken, it was the fucks not given that made all the difference.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)


This concept, it shows up in various belief systems/therapeutic models. It can be extraordinarily useful, especially for those who spend lots of their time living in the past or the future.

I'd be curious where the author goes with it, what options he suggests for how to proceed once one stops "giving a f**k," because often that's a sticking point. Replacing one thing for another, having an approach to life that isn't just about not doing what has been problematic, but actually doing, you know, what is meaningful.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:29 AM (cY3LT)

279 249
The point is that church and state were at least rival centers of power, as opposed to the Protestant model with merged the two.

That's why I find it ironic that Protestant histories try to claim that they are free-thinking individualists and value the separation of church and state.

In practice, no. Separating church and state became a thing in the Americas because so many non-conformists fled (or were exiled) here. And Catholics were happy to see the benefit as well.

By the way, merging church and state made heresy (or nonconformism) outright treason, immediately punishable by death.

In Catholic areas, you could be a heretic and simply repent. Can't repent from treason, though.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:11 AM (HIUfw)
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That is a truth people simply don't see. The actual separation of Church and State was an invention of the medieval West. You don't find it before that, or elsewhere. That it wasn't done as we do it is beside the point. Besides, it is actually true that the Church WAS independent of the state, and could stand up to it. Our system, OTOH, really has the Church as subject, just hoping that promises will be kept, if the courts will keep them. And many moderns hate that.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 11:30 AM (VaN/j)

280 Glittering Images, by Camile Paglia. Something of an overview of art history while discussing what's wrong with modern art.

"One reason for the marginalization of the fine arts today is that artists are too often addressing other artists and the in-group of hip cognoscenti."

Or

"Nothing is more hackneyed than the liberal dogma that shock value confers automatic importance on an artwork."
Posted by: Lirio100 at July 21, 2019 11:25 AM (JK7Jw)


Hurricane Camille's art commentary is both learned and readable. Other than Robert Hughes, who died in 2012, I don't know of any other recent ones worth reading.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 11:30 AM (y7DUB)

281 268. An aunt used to cook many things in her very large fireplace, soups, vegetables and occasionally bread. I adored her. She taught me many skills that are growing in popularity today.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:31 AM (U7k5w)

282 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:11 AM (HIUfw)
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You find it ironic because you're wrong.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 21, 2019 11:32 AM (2DOZq)

283 Glittering Images, by Camile Paglia. Something of an overview of art history while discussing what's wrong with modern art.

"One reason for the marginalization of the fine arts today is that artists are too often addressing other artists and the in-group of hip cognoscenti."

Or

"Nothing is more hackneyed than the liberal dogma that shock value confers automatic importance on an artwork."
Posted by: Lirio100 at July 21, 2019 11:25 AM (JK7Jw)


The good thing about Camille Paglia is that she is insightful and often right. The bad thing about Camille Paglia is that her writing is a terrible, painful slog.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:34 AM (cY3LT)

284 This has to be the coolest July in the PNW in years.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:35 AM (MAstk)

285 261 So is I bad thing to admit remembering those pants?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2019 11:17 AM (axyOa)


No, but if your mother made you wear them, I'd say she's guilty of a hate crime.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 21, 2019 11:35 AM (smcnr)

286 My most recent electric/nat gas bill was...


$47.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:36 AM (MAstk)

287
The good thing about Camille Paglia is that she is insightful and often right. The bad thing about Camille Paglia is that her writing is a terrible, painful slog.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:34 AM
(cY3LT)
Go cheap and read sections, no need to read every word.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:36 AM (U7k5w)

288 The bad thing about Camille Paglia is that her writing is a terrible, painful slog.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:34 AM (cY3LT)


She writes like she talks, which is so rapid fire that I'm surprised she doesn't have a major stuttering problem. I'm sure she told some early editors to fuck off before they stopped suggesting changes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 11:38 AM (y7DUB)

289 My most recent electric/nat gas bill was...
$47.
Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:36 AM (MAstk)
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Grrrrrrr.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:38 AM (sGotD)

290 284: It's shitty in the NYC metropolitan area. Hot, humid and still.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:38 AM (U7k5w)

291 "She said it was the best corn you could ever eat, cooking it that fresh."


still true I think, but now we have "supersweet" varieties. They are good even without cooking. I hope for a time we get back to a lot of local producers providing fresh from the garden, extended season options, as part of repopulating some of the rural communities.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 11:38 AM (Cus5s)

292 276 Elizabeth

Orange Lady bad !


Actually, the Orange People didn't come along until later, with the Glorious Revolution.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, and Called It Brad at July 21, 2019 11:39 AM (Clxcy)

293 She writes like she talks, which is so rapid fire that I'm surprised she doesn't have a major stuttering problem.

I love watching Paglia talk. People think I talk fast. I think my friends talk fast. Camille's like hold my beer.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 11:39 AM (fuK7c)

294 257 ... "Love MR James."

This is when ebooks are helpful. I just ordered a collection of MR James stories really cheap. If needed, I can always put the book on the list I keep handy to find on sale. (Yeah, I checked the local library. They only have him on downloadable audio books. I want to read the words.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 11:40 AM (bmdz3)

295 291: I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes it uncooked.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:40 AM (U7k5w)

296 Well, Glittering Images isn't too bad!

One thing I found interesting that might not have been intended by her is how the function of art in society changed over time. The statues we call Roman art were for a purpose, what we call Saxon art is often in the form of sword fittings and dress brooches. We'd call this craft today. A huge painting that consists of swirls done with ketchup would not be recognized by them, it's making me lean toward modern art as money laundering.

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 21, 2019 11:41 AM (JK7Jw)

297 Word of the Day: Scopophilia - to derive aesthetic pleasure from looking at someone or something.

My version: Scopacetic - describing someone or something that is drool-worthy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 11:41 AM (kQs4Y)

298 The statues we call Roman art were for a purpose


The funny thing is that they were entirely different in the day. We think of Roman sculpture as austere white marble. They were mostly painted, painted in gaudy whorehouse colors.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 11:43 AM (fuK7c)

299 Jersey corn and tomatoes are exceptional this year!

But I've got to tell you about the cantaloupe I got the other day. It was as big as a basketball and the price was $6.00 (!) I was going back and forth between the normal and gargantuan melons when the proprietor said, "Go for the big one, you won't regret it." LOL

I did, and it was the most delicious cantaloupe I have had in years. Tender, juicy and very sweet, and there was a tremendous amount of fruit--easily three regular melons worth.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:43 AM (sGotD)

300 A huge painting that consists of swirls done with ketchup would not be recognized by them, it's making me lean toward modern art as money laundering.
Posted by: Lirio100 at July 21, 2019 11:41 AM (JK7Jw)


The really horrible stuff I regard as trying to satisfy a numbnuts art teacher.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 11:43 AM (y7DUB)

301 Forgot the name of a movie about a Sgt and his squad of anti-aircraft artillery girls. But it has two versions, from Communist era and afterwards both which I watched and eithe is very watchable.
Anyway the Communist era women are what you would think, the later version with western style women are quite attractive especially compared to the early version.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 11:44 AM (BbGew)

302 The good thing about Camille Paglia is that she is insightful and often right. The bad thing about Camille Paglia is that her writing is a terrible, painful slog.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:34 AM
(cY3LT)
Go cheap and read sections, no need to read every word.
Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:36 AM (U7k5w)


My brain doesn't work that way. I'm a slow reader, and can't "skip words," which is how I assume lots of folks manage to read as fast as they do.

Every article in every sentence, every side note, every tangent. I gotta follow them. I've come to accept it as a blessing and a curse.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:44 AM (cY3LT)

303 286 My most recent electric/nat gas bill was...


$47.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:36 AM (MAstk)


My lowest ones are about $75 in the spring and fall when I'm not even running the heater or air conditioner.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 11:45 AM (sdi6R)

304 299: I try to get to the CSA before anyone else does, the purple cherry tomatoes tasted like berries! I know tomatoes are fruits, but when they're very fresh I understand this better. I haven't found corn yet.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:45 AM (U7k5w)

305 " My most recent electric/nat gas bill was...
$47. "

Do you bathe?

Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 11:46 AM (PveK5)

306 Forgot the name of a movie about a Sgt and his squad of anti-aircraft artillery girls. But it has two versions, from Communist era and afterwards both which I watched and eithe is very watchable.
Anyway the Communist era women are what you would think, the later version with western style women are quite attractive especially compared to the early version.
Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 11:44 AM (BbGew)


"The Dawns Here Are Quiet."

I've watched the newer version, and have the older version around here.

Seems the actresses they got to play the parts of the newer versions were NOT just selected for their acting ability. I believe the older version, they were made to look the part of badass gals.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:46 AM (cY3LT)

307 Jersey corn and tomatoes are exceptional this year!

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:43 AM (sGotD)

Corn is good, but I haven't had a good tomato yet. My local farm assures me that the good ones will be here this week!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (wYseH)

308 The good thing about Camille Paglia is that she is
insightful and often right. The bad thing about Camille Paglia is that
her writing is a terrible, painful slog.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:34 AM (cY3LT)

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I liked the columns she used to write. Some people are better at essays than long-form books. I've never read one of her books cover-to-cover, just selected essays, which are quite good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (SEYt0)

309 Are we talking art? !

Get a load of these pics of everyone's favorite Spirit cooker, Marina Abramovic of Podesta fame, and Lady Gaga (!)

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5jzt4jr

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (sGotD)

310 " it is actually true that the Church WAS independent
of the state, and could stand up to it. Our system, OTOH, really has
the Church as subject, just hoping that promises will be kept, if the
courts will keep them. And many moderns hate that." Posted by: Eeyore


One can be Catholic or Protestant without fear of government or pope ... in America today. Wasn't that much less true of earlier Europe?


Being Catholic under Protestant royalty, or (Catholic) Luther under the Pope (and I guess secular government) ... seemed to make life much more difficult than it would be today in USA (if there were still so many men with such conviction).

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (Cus5s)

311 My next bill will be north of $200, I'm sure. I don't care. As long as the air conditioner keeps working, that's all that matters.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 11:48 AM (sdi6R)

312 Seems the actresses they got to play the parts of the newer versions were NOT just selected for their acting ability. I believe the older version, they were made to look the part of badass gals.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:46 AM (cY3LT)


Oh, heh. That's what you already said.

I was in a hurry to reply, didn't quite absorb what you were saying. So yeah, if one is inclined, watch the newer version first. It doesn't pull any punches, literally or figuratively.

I'll get to the older one sooner or later, but yeah, Ludmilla the shotput gal is the look they were going for in that one.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:49 AM (cY3LT)

313 Corn is good, but I haven't had a good tomato yet. My local farm assures me that the good ones will be here this week!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (wYseH)

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...and were in the gardening thread!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:49 AM (SEYt0)

314 back amongst civilization. yippie!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 21, 2019 11:49 AM (KP5rU)

315 OM, Thanks for the Book Thread. I should write that every week. It is one of the high points of my weekend and has led to so many hours of pleasurable reading.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 11:50 AM (bmdz3)

316 Dread0 at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (Bptbo)

Have you read Robert Spencer's book, "The Truth About Mohamed"?It seems to be well researched and is quite interesting.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 21, 2019 11:50 AM (u5LFV)

317 > Anyway the Communist era women are what you would think
The Communists in general were very secretive about their women. If I'm remembering right, Gorby's wife Raisa was the first one who actually had a real media presence. Good-looking woman. I imagine she was quite fetching when she was young.

The women who appeared in Soviet propaganda photos and films for, e.g. killing 72 Germans in their sleep, definitely fell in the Megan Rapinoe region of the spectrum that goes from 80's Phoebe Cates on one end to Helen Thomas on the other.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (GDooN)

318 Corn is good, but I haven't had a good tomato yet. My local farm assures me that the good ones will be here this week!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (wYseH)
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I've been using mostly plum tomatoes. Very meaty and flavorful. The few medium Jerseys I've had were very good also but the plums were better.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (sGotD)

319 Have you read Robert Spencer's book, "The Truth About Mohamed"?It seems to be well researched and is quite interesting.


Posted by: Grannymimi at July 21, 2019 11:50 AM (u5LFV)

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It was a quick read, but a little repetitive to my recollection as Spencer likes to pause and say "SEE! THIS IS THEIR IDEAL GUY!!!"

But he has a point.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (SEYt0)

320 She writes like she talks, which is so rapid fire that I'm surprised she doesn't have a major stuttering problem.
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I love watching Paglia talk. People think I talk fast. I think my friends talk fast. Camille's like hold my beer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 11:39 AM (fuK7c)


I think that might be it, and for me at least, I can handle it when people talk that way. There is all the non-verbal communication going on, so my brain can take it in more clearly and cleanly. With writing, it's all about the words, and I tend to have to be able to "walk the walk" with the author, so to speak.

And with someone like Camille, after a while I'm just "yeah, I'm out."

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (cY3LT)

321 I love watching Paglia talk. People think I talk fast. I think my friends talk fast. Camille's like hold my beer.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 11:39 AM (fuK7c)

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I find her voice grating. Prefer to read her.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:53 AM (SEYt0)

322 313: We could turn it into a MFK Fisher discussion and book it up a bit.

I agree with JTB about the book thread and I am always happy to immediately look to buy some of the suggestions cheaply. Ordered the Dafoe for Kindle.
And many thanks for the Grossman suggestions of last week. With the yutes expounding on the need for collectivism, I think it's good to read about the hideousness that it brings instead.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:53 AM (U7k5w)

323 The women who appeared in Soviet propaganda photos
and films for, e.g. killing 72 Germans in their sleep, definitely fell
in the Megan Rapinoe region of the spectrum that goes from 80's Phoebe
Cates on one end to Helen Thomas on the other.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (GDooN)

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That old Wendy's commercial - back when corporations openly took America's side.

"Next we have, day wear!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:54 AM (SEYt0)

324 Corn is good, but I haven't had a good tomato yet. My local farm assures me that the good ones will be here this week!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (wYseH)
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I've been using mostly plum tomatoes. Very meaty and flavorful. The few medium Jerseys I've had were very good also but the plums were better.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (sGotD)


This has been the worst tomato year I can recall.

Lots of soggy pink slop. Even the grape/cherry tomatoes are weak and lame.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)

325 Have Robert Spencer's History of Jihad, should do a reread.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 11:54 AM (BbGew)

326 I love watching Paglia talk. People think I talk fast. I think my friends talk fast. Camille's like hold my beer.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 11:39 AM (fuK7c)

She's a treasure. A true liberal intellectual.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 11:54 AM (H8QX8)

327 318: The cherry tomatoes from the CSA were wildly delicious. Even my 4yo grandson gobbled them up!

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:55 AM (U7k5w)

328 I've never read one of her books cover-to-cover, just selected essays, which are quite good.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (SEYt0)


I can only read a page or two of Sexual Personae at a time because it's such a dense supersaturated distillation of knowledge. Like BurtTC I'm hardwired to not skim; or at least when I catch myself doing that I don my hair shirt and continue.

Proust's prose is like that, only fiction and translated.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 11:55 AM (y7DUB)

329 Do you bathe?
Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 11:46 AM (PveK5)


Heh

We have all LED bulbs and do not use heat/AC in the summer.

May-Sept my bills are all around $45 to $50.

I think we have the 2nd lowest energy rates in the country.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:55 AM (MAstk)

330 My rural electric charges $43 just for the facility charge ... but in my case, there are six poles to get down my lane, so they probably lose money on my service, especially with the storm that took down half of them, and the woodpeckers doing damage.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 11:55 AM (Cus5s)

331 > I imagine she was quite fetching when she was young.
www.gorby.ru/userfiles/18008w.jpg
Yeah, that's a 1.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 11:56 AM (GDooN)

332 Skimmed through We Reach the Moon, might sit down and read it all soon.

Looking like I won't get anything published and printed for the Kindle Storyteller contest. Oh well will just keep writing I guess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 11:57 AM (cH3lq)

333 Last winter my highest bill was $147

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:57 AM (MAstk)

334 I'm on the budget plans for both gas and electric, so I pay the same price every month, which together comes to just over $300.00.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:58 AM (sGotD)

335 Are we talking art? !

Get a load of these pics of everyone's favorite Spirit cooker, Marina Abramovic of Podesta fame, and Lady Gaga (!)

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5jzt4jr
Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (sGotD)


What the hell are we looking at here?

Wait, don't tell me. I don't really remember what the spirit cooking concept was about, and I think my life without such knowledge will be just fine.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (cY3LT)

336 One can be Catholic or Protestant without fear of government or pope ...
in America today. Wasn't that much less true of earlier Europe?
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It's not as true today as it was ten years ago.

It's interesting to me that the anti-David French movement is being led by Catholic conservatives.

A lot of his defenders are Protestant and he spends most of his days picking on Evangelicals for not obeying his orders.

Of course there are Catholics who are happy to submit like Ed Morrissey and then you have Pelosi and Biden claim to be Catholic but we all know how deep that runs.

Some of these disputes go back a long way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (SEYt0)

337 Lots of soggy pink slop. Even the grape/cherry tomatoes are weak and lame.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)
~~~~~

Where are you, Burt?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (sGotD)

338 This has to be the coolest July in the PNW in years.
Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:35 AM (MAstk)

****

No kidding. Summer arrived yesterday.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (axyOa)

339 327 318: The cherry tomatoes from the CSA were wildly delicious. Even my 4yo grandson gobbled them up!
Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 11:55 AM (U7k5w)


Confederate States of America?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (cY3LT)

340 Wait, don't tell me. I don't really remember what
the spirit cooking concept was about, and I think my life without such
knowledge will be just fine.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (cY3LT)

---
My wife's been digging into Epstein stuff and keeps telling me about it and other depravities and I keep telling her I don't need to know. I'm already at the appropriate level of anger and don't need to have a rage stroke.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (SEYt0)

341 Lots of soggy pink slop. Even the grape/cherry tomatoes are weak and lame.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)
~~~~~

Where are you, Burt?
Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (sGotD)


St. Louis.

For now.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

342 Between the utility bills and the PNW weather, I'm beginning to think Ha is a troll. A very, very mean troll.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 12:02 PM (sGotD)

343 I usually have one summer and one winter bill in the $200 range, but most of them are less than that.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 12:02 PM (sdi6R)

344 Ii think I'll go with a large tomato and cucumber salad for lunch, even add some peach slices for an even fruitier experience, then kick back and read the Defoe book. Too hot to garden, so it's a reading afternoon.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:04 PM (U7k5w)

345 Wait, don't tell me. I don't really remember what
the spirit cooking concept was about, and I think my life without such
knowledge will be just fine.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (cY3LT)

---
My wife's been digging into Epstein stuff and keeps telling me about it and other depravities and I keep telling her I don't need to know. I'm already at the appropriate level of anger and don't need to have a rage stroke.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (SEYt0)


My problem is, I have professional knowledge of much of this type of depravity... and I sometimes forget other people don't.

It's often refreshing being around people who don't, but I can't quite turn it off in my head either, that it might be lurking... anywhere. Everywhere.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:04 PM (cY3LT)

346 Skimmed through We Reach the Moon, might sit down and read it all soon.

Looking
like I won't get anything published and printed for the Kindle
Storyteller contest. Oh well will just keep writing I guess.


Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 11:57 AM (cH3lq)

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My 5th Grade English text book was from 1967 or thereabouts (we were the last class to use it) and it had speculative stories about what the moon might be light and artists' renditions of the suits and ships that would reach it.

All badly off.

Interestingly, there was a lot about sea exploration and the like. Ocean-floor communities and other odd stuff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:04 PM (SEYt0)

347 OT: cool tiger photo and one Photoshop!
https://twitter.com/Wadsworthish/status/
1152958857838235648

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2019 12:04 PM (Dh1wo)

348 >>I haven't had a good tomato yet


In NJ?

Crazy. The local farms have been putting out nice heirlooms for the past 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (yE4ie)

349 310 " it is actually true that the Church WAS independent
of the state, and could stand up to it. Our system, OTOH, really has
the Church as subject, just hoping that promises will be kept, if the
courts will keep them. And many moderns hate that." Posted by: Eeyore


One can be Catholic or Protestant without fear of government or pope ... in America today. Wasn't that much less true of earlier Europe?


Being Catholic under Protestant royalty, or (Catholic) Luther under the Pope (and I guess secular government) ... seemed to make life much more difficult than it would be today in USA (if there were still so many men with such conviction).
Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 11:47 AM (Cus5s)
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The trouble with that is that it is entirely dependent on how many boogers Roberts has up his left nostril the day a case is decided. And really, it has always been so, here as elsewhere. In our system, the churches act at the sufferance of the state. That is inherent in modern models of politics, of every stripe.

And that's the point people just don't get about the Middle Ages. The modern system is something that arose in, well, the early modern era. Before that, the situation was very different. People have trouble taking this in, the idea that political sovereignty might not be defined as we define it.

Their way of doing things had its own problems, of course, but it's a mistake to read our conceptions back on earlier times. Strictly speaking, "feudal despotism" is an oxymoron. We tend to look at some features of Medieval Europe and see parallels with totalitarianism. Well, some of the parallels may be real, but the conclusion that it was totalitarian is false. That was impossible under the extreme decentralization of the day, which was nontheless heirarchical.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (VaN/j)

350 342 Between the utility bills and the PNW weather, I'm beginning to think Ha is a troll. A very, very mean troll.
..

Dead serious.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (MAstk)

351 A lot of his defenders are Protestant and he spends most of his days picking on Evangelicals for not obeying his orders.

Other than a few breakaway sects, Evangelicals are the only Protestants that adhere to what I consider not having a lava light conception of right and wrong. I was confirmed an Episcopalian and early on I saw those jizzmops perverting everything to hang with the kewel kidz. Then as now, fuck that shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (y7DUB)

352 Wait, don't tell me. I don't really remember what
the spirit cooking concept was about, and I think my life without such knowledge will be just fine.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 11:59 AM (cY3LT)
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My wife's been digging into Epstein stuff and keeps telling me about it and other depravities and I keep telling her I don't need to know. I'm already at the appropriate level of anger and don't need to have a rage stroke.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (SEYt0)
~~~~~

I understand. I was reading a Vanity Fair article about Epstein and it noted that Elon Musk was at Epstein's house and said it was unremarkable except for "weird art."

There has to be a connection between Epstein and Podesta.

The mind reels.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (sGotD)

353 >>This has to be the coolest July in the PNW in years.


It's over, now...but damn, what an awesome year.

10 days or less of July is a great thing.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:06 PM (yE4ie)

354 317
The women who appeared in Soviet propaganda photos and films for, e.g. killing 72 Germans in their sleep, definitely fell in the Megan Rapinoe region of the spectrum that goes from 80's Phoebe Cates on one end to Helen Thomas on the other.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 21, 2019 11:52 AM (GDooN)
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I don't know. Helen Thomas might have been quite the hottie in the Pierce administration.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:07 PM (VaN/j)

355 so much for that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 21, 2019 12:07 PM (KP5rU)

356 Only Louisiana has cheaper electric rates than WA.

Problem is they need to run AC all summer, we don't.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:07 PM (MAstk)

357 339 Community Supported Agriculture. There is a small farm near me that has a program. I put up some money early in the season and get a 15% bonus toward purchases throughout the summer. I always spend in excess, but the tomatoes, Romanesco, and beans can't be beat.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:07 PM (U7k5w)

358 Anyway, thanks to Oregon Muse for the book thread, and thanks to CBD for whatever he did too.

One last note before I reboot and do some OS reinstallation:

I'm gonna avoid talking about Neal Stephenson for now. All I really feel like saying, though, is the Silicon Valley Zeitgeist bugs me now. Back in the 90's when they were pretending to still be libertarians, it was kind of new-ish, at least, but it's old now.

(Out of curiosity, what does he say about Virtual Currencies these days? Is he shrieking like an old woman about bitcoin the way HN does now about its energy use?)

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, and Called It Brad at July 21, 2019 12:07 PM (Clxcy)

359 >>Only Louisiana has cheaper electric rates than WA.


Those damns aren't gonna be there forever.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:08 PM (yE4ie)

360 Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:06 PM (yE4ie)

I'm happy as long as there is no smoke.

But we still have to get through August.

Gulp.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:08 PM (MAstk)

361 dams

...silly phone.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:08 PM (yE4ie)

362 Those damns aren't gonna be there forever.
..

Heh and their rates are only cheaper by a fraction of a penny.

Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 12:09 PM (MAstk)

363 >>I'm happy as long as there is no smoke.


Some from Canada, early this spring...but, so far no big fires.


Don't worry. The Forest Service will make sure a few get going and then get out of control before long.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:09 PM (yE4ie)

364 One good thing about this surface of the sun with humidity weather is it gives one the excuse to stay inside, read, and take a nap while waiting for the Nats game on the radio. Not to mention enjoying pleasant conversations on the various Sunday threads.

Posted by: JTB at July 21, 2019 12:09 PM (bmdz3)

365 Confederate States of America?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (cY3LT)


"Community-supported agriculture". Can mean a farmer's market or a weekly produce delivery from a farm network, or just a weekly delivery from a particular farm, depending on what's in the area.

It also can be a source of confusion when you're talking online about food home deliveries to people with disabilities, because in some countries it immediately connotes "child sexual assault". It turns out that it's less confusing to ask if the farmer can prepare produce before delivery than to recommend asking around for a CSA in the area.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:11 PM (t+qrx)

366 A.H Lloyd, a second century Greek satirist named Lucian had a story in which the inhabitants of the Moon rode atop three-headed vultures.

We have since learned so much about the planets but at the same time killed the wonder early science fiction writers had of the same planets. Even Lowell's canals and Bradbury's Martians are just fleeting grains of sand caught in the the zephyr of information the robotic children of the Apollo program have given us.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 12:13 PM (cH3lq)

367 The local farms have been putting out nice heirlooms for the past 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (yE4ie)

It has been a very cool summer so far.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2019 12:13 PM (wYseH)

368 As wrong as I think much of Catholicism is, the thing is, I think the Protestants didn't go far enough either, and the 95 theses should have just been the start of getting back to individuals studying on their own, defying centralized authority as necessary.


my simple version compares that to our efforts to regain original intent at SCOTUS, and individuals must learn that in schools. Instead we have centralize Commie Core.


But what central power does do on the positive side, is it can unite people, and it is more powerful. Gorsuch did his (JD thesis?) early study directly under some Catholic scholar. Perhaps that Catholic jurisprudence is some trend that has propelled the dominance of Catholic Supremes, and perhaps there is no such Protestant school that leads toward conservative "judicial restraint", or whatever it is that has led to zero Protestants at the supreme level. (Gorsuch switched recently, raised his kids Catholic, not sure what his deal is exactly, but his foundation is Catholic)


The more Pope John Paul oriented judges maybe serve us well, and have more necessary and powerful backing, as seems evident in that no Protestants survive the selection process. In any case, I sure don't see religious free for the individual as anything but MORE free in the USA than it was in Europe. (even with the internet censorship trend, though that is a threat. And French and the lesbian protestants, is more indicative of the advantage of decentralized control ... free choice, but they should at some point drop the Christian fake label)

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

369 Sorry, Anna. Bradbury's Martians are still waiting.

Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 12:15 PM (PveK5)

370 Am I the only person who gets an intense blood pressure spike when encountering the word "cuppa" for cup of coffee?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:15 PM (y7DUB)

371 They are waiting only if we get off this mudball before blowing ourselves up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 12:16 PM (cH3lq)

372 Their way of doing things had its own problems, of
course, but it's a mistake to read our conceptions back on earlier
times. Strictly speaking, "feudal despotism" is an oxymoron. We tend to
look at some features of Medieval Europe and see parallels with
totalitarianism. Well, some of the parallels may be real, but the
conclusion that it was totalitarian is false. That was impossible under
the extreme decentralization of the day, which was nontheless
heirarchical.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:05 PM (VaN/j)

---
Taking this back to the earlier discussion about the Tudors, consider the difference between what happened when Thomas Becket was murdered vs the wholesale slaughter of clergy by Henry and Elizabeth.

Church and state acted as a check on each other and neither were monolithic.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:16 PM (SEYt0)

373 365: My local group, doesn't force you to take okra. One of the other groups gives you a share of everything, and I don't care for okra or summer squash. They are also a very (quietly) conservative family, so I like the idea that greenie libs are fronting money and then spending the summer at the shore and losing the cash. I can get all the tomatoes I want, and the lettuce has been great too.
I have never heard of CSA used for assault, btw.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:17 PM (U7k5w)

374 There's one thing I know I'm missing, which is liking tomatoes. (My brother is the same way; there may be something chemical going on.) But unlike other foods I cannot stand, I can see that the pleasure others get (like my wife does and my mother did) is real.

Now, I've had some tell me "You haven't had a good one." Actually, I have, and they are much the worst. If you cannot stand a flavor, the more you get, the worse it is.

The thing is that everyone can see this about food, if we think about it. But somehow with books or music it gets missed. Not that there is no such thing as good taste. But that is a matter of whether you can see a thing is well done or not. If you don't like the kind of thing it is, though, there's nothing to say.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:18 PM (VaN/j)

375 St Thomas a Becket in the first two pictures here...
https://twitter.com/41Strange/status/
982396461789822976

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2019 12:21 PM (Dh1wo)

376 I don't know. Helen Thomas might have been quite the hottie in the Pierce administration.
Posted by: Eeyore

Care to see my beautifully bound volumes of etchings of a beautifully bound Miss Thomas?

Posted by: William Matthews, famous bookbinder at July 21, 2019 12:21 PM (7Llwi)

377 Confederate States of America?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:01 PM (cY3LT)

"Community-supported agriculture". Can mean a farmer's market or a weekly produce delivery from a farm network, or just a weekly delivery from a particular farm, depending on what's in the area.

It also can be a source of confusion when you're talking online about food home deliveries to people with disabilities, because in some countries it immediately connotes "child sexual assault". It turns out that it's less confusing to ask if the farmer can prepare produce before delivery than to recommend asking around for a CSA in the area.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:11 PM (t+qrx)


Hmmm, never heard the term before.

Our local "farmer's markets" are often just providing the same produce the large grocery chains are.

There are genuine farmer's markets, but they're not all that convenient in terms of time and place. I'm going to stick with grocery chains, deal with the crappy produce for much of the year, and realize life's too short to fret over such things.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:22 PM (cY3LT)

378 Rocket Summer is a long time coming, if ever.

Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 12:22 PM (PveK5)

379 nood re. budget

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2019 12:22 PM (Dh1wo)

380 372
Taking this back to the earlier discussion about the Tudors, consider the difference between what happened when Thomas Becket was murdered vs the wholesale slaughter of clergy by Henry and Elizabeth.

Church and state acted as a check on each other and neither were monolithic.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:16 PM (SEYt0)
_______

Wouldn't it be sweet to see, after the whole Russia story comes out, Obama being flogged publicly?

But that is the point. You cannot picture that happening to a modern head of state. Nor having one kneel in the snow to show repentance. And it's not just a P/C thing. Louis XVI was just as bad.

Of course, there has been a good side to the modern system; there always is. (Almost always, anyway.) But it depended on a culture which is clearly dying. What follows, who knows?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:22 PM (VaN/j)

381 No farmstands nearby, Burt?

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (yE4ie)

382 Am I the only person who gets an intense blood pressure spike when encountering the word "cuppa" for cup of coffee?
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:15 PM (y7DUB)
~~~~~

Understandable. "Cuppa" indicates a cup of tea.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (sGotD)

383 368
As wrong as I think much of Catholicism is, the thing is, I think the
Protestants didn't go far enough either, and the 95 theses should have
just been the start of getting back to individuals studying on their
own, defying centralized authority as necessary.


Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

---
If you get a chance, take a look at Sohrab Amari's "Against David French-ism." It was featured at First Things, which is now a hotbed of Catholic revolutionary fervor.

Briefly, Amari's thesis is that modern liberals are actually true to Classical Liberals, they've simply followed their philosophy to its natural end.

If individual liberty is paramount, and any restriction must be cast aside, which includes *moral* restriction because that's a constraint on liberty.

And if you shackle state power, other sources of power will emerge - like mega-corporations who will use market power to punish those who they dislike.

It's a powerful essay and there's lots of other supporting discussion going on.

Tellingly, French isn't really engaging intellectually, but constantly telling everyone how moral he is personally, which means he's right.

And full disclosure: I'm a Catholic convert, raised by irreligious parents who despised organized religion (mom was raised Catholic, dad was a Methodist). My wife was raised Southern Baptist and both of us are very much at home in the Church. Of course YMMV.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 12:26 PM (SEYt0)

384 an extended CSA would be cool, extended to include dairy/poultry/beef ... maybe honey, flowers, whatever. Dairy has faced some government inspection concerns, but inspection is good (till the fed gestapo types get out of control, which maybe has happened). But extending to more than vegies would perhaps facilitate more viable year round production. And tech makes it easy to have live cams for people to see the food growing, plant and animal, and it personalizes the producer to consumer.


Keeping the "sustainable" commies out of the mix would be nice as well. Commies ruin everything they touch.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2019 12:28 PM (Cus5s)

385 Lowry's just smoking everyone at the British Open. Now there's just the PGA Championship and the majors are over for another year. Oh wait! Fucking PGA!

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:30 PM (y7DUB)

386 The thing is that everyone can see this about food, if we think about it. But somehow with books or music it gets missed. Not that there is no such thing as good taste. But that is a matter of whether you can see a thing is well done or not. If you don't like the kind of thing it is, though, there's nothing to say.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 21, 2019 12:18 PM (VaN/j)


Yeah, it's rather funny to me that we argue about such things. I am as guilty as anyone, when it comes to entertainment, because I find it amusing and at times, yes, fun to laugh at other people's "taste," especially in music.

I heard a discussion yesterday about Taylor Swift, and there was the preface to it by someone who was being critical, "she's a great artist, but..."

NO SHE'S NOT!

You can like her all you want, and I wish you well, but she produces garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:31 PM (cY3LT)

387 Concerning the Amazon eReader freedom issues. I also have another observation. When Amazon (or Netflix for that matter) gives you a recommendation, it is based on 'others that bought this book also bought X'. What it doesn't tell you is if the reader liked it or even finished it. You may be able to tell through reviews, but many of them are paid or fake. I believe that this recommendation algorithm really limits the things you may be exposed to... based on metadata. Unlike this Bookthread, there is no real engagement.

Posted by: Rob at July 21, 2019 12:33 PM (QWpX/)

388 No farmstands nearby, Burt?
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (yE4ie)


I think they tend to frown on it here. I'm not sure. I don't often see them, or more accurately the ones I see with roadside displays, someone has a hand painted sign, but when I go by there ain't nobody and there ain't nothin' there.

I guess you have to seek them out early on Saturday mornings. That's not doable for me.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:34 PM (cY3LT)

389 I try not to criticize anyone's taste here because it's subjective and anyone here is deputized to call me out if they see me doing so. Likewise I don't respond well when mine is taken to task.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (y7DUB)

390 Concerning the Amazon eReader freedom issues. I also have another observation. When Amazon (or Netflix for that matter) gives you a recommendation, it is based on 'others that bought this book also bought X'. What it doesn't tell you is if the reader liked it or even finished it. You may be able to tell through reviews, but many of them are paid or fake. I believe that this recommendation algorithm really limits the things you may be exposed to... based on metadata. Unlike this Bookthread, there is no real engagement.
Posted by: Rob at July 21, 2019 12:33 PM (QWpX/)


Seems to me Amazon fudges with their recommendations, and it isn't just books/movies/music. It's pretty much everything.

Try to find a decent pair of sox, in a color you want, and you get all sorts of recommendations that don't look anything like what you put in your search terms.

Why?

I'm guessing it's because Amazon has greater loyalty to their merchants than they do their customers, and figure we don't really know what we want. So they're going to guide us to the right side of things.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM (cY3LT)

391 Am I the only person who gets an intense blood pressure spike when encountering the word "cuppa" for cup of coffee?
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:15 PM (y7DUB)
~~~~~

Understandable. "Cuppa" indicates a cup of tea.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 21, 2019 12:23 PM (sGotD)



Eh. Watch some old B&W movies made here in the good old USA.

Someone's always asking for a "cuppa joe".

Slangy American meet Slangy Brit.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM (2EMYr)

392
Yay me!

I made delicious migas for brunch.


Satisfied tummies all around.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 12:41 PM (2EMYr)

393 Try to find a decent pair of sox, in a color you want, and you get all sorts of recommendations that don't look anything like what you put in your search terms.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM (cY3LT)


They all do it.

"You just bought a $300 vacuum cleaner. Here are a dozen other vacuum cleaners that you are very likely to buy too. We'll keep sending you emails every few days, tempting you with more and more vacuum cleaners to go with the one you just bought. Because you can never have too many vacuum cleaners."

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:43 PM (t+qrx)

394 I try not to criticize anyone's taste here because it's subjective and anyone here is deputized to call me out if they see me doing so. Likewise I don't respond well when mine is taken to task.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 12:37 PM (y7DUB)


When I was younger, there were any number of rock bands that were quite popular, and I found enjoyment in much of what they did.

Some of it is just maturity, but it's easy to see now, how much of it really is just noisy garbage. I can get nostalgic about it though, and sometimes will still enjoy the garbage music of my youth, but I have no illusions about what it is.

So yeah, maybe I enjoy pointing it out more than I should. Especially today, when I actually feel sorry for the kids growing up, because it really has gotten steadily worse.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:43 PM (cY3LT)

395 Oooops.

Wrong thread.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (2EMYr)

396 How to open a new book - that's just what I was taught. Is it still considered right?

How do you do that on an e-book?

We're about to go visit my nephew & his spouse, in the City for the weekend, at my Mom's. Good way to spend a Sunday.
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Speaking of cracking into new books, one sleepy evening, a relative forced The Urantia Book upon me.

"You have to read this book!" Uh-huh.

He handed me a brand-new copy, rather than his personal well-worn, dog-eared, and heavily-bookmarked first edition. Nice, quality hardcover volume (the only available format in those days).

So, for sake of peace with the relative (as in, get him to shut up), I sat down with the book.

I cracked that big new 2000-page hardback with respect, as I'd been taught.

Then I began to thumb about in it. "NO NO NO NO NO" interjected the lurking relative -- I had to start on page 1 of the Foreword. ohhhh-kayy...

The Foreword starts out simply enough, but quickly goes deep, foreshadowing as it does the concepts and neologisms of the 192 following 'papers.'

Foreword is heavy wading, in other words.

I'd traveled many miles that day. I'd had a beer or a puff, probably both.

Upshot: I was nose-down asleep on the book by page three. Big greasy nose and forehead print wrinkling the page. So much for new-book care.

He gave me that copy. Eventually, I did read it all.
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Linked in nic: an old comic webwork of a trio of mind-travelers "Exploring the Foreword" - could be funny even if you don't know beans about the UB.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for obscure funny at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (mZLmb)

397 "You just bought a $300 vacuum cleaner. Here are a dozen other vacuum cleaners that you are very likely to buy too. We'll keep sending you emails every few days, tempting you with more and more vacuum cleaners to go with the one you just bought. Because you can never have too many vacuum cleaners."
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:43 PM (t+qrx)

After buying my truck I saw all kinds of Nissan ads on every computer I have. Which is weird because I didn't buy my truck on Amazon or anything.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (aurSP)

398 384: The farm I affiliated with pays lip service to the greenies. but I'd very pro Trump. The service extends to flowers. herbs. and eggs. but they don't sell meat, honey. or milk products. I join for my favorite produce, and because this one offers choice. If I had to take okra and kale I would skip the discount and just go to the farmers market in Trenton which does have meat and dairy.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (U7k5w)

399 figure we don't really know what we want. So they're going to guide us to the right side of things.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM


It's hard work, but someone's got to do it.

Sadly, 25+ million of you aren't guidable.

Posted by: Wm. "Bill" Ayers & The MSM at July 21, 2019 12:46 PM (35XGF)

400 Try to find a decent pair of sox, in a color you want, and you get all sorts of recommendations that don't look anything like what you put in your search terms.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM (cY3LT)

They all do it.

"You just bought a $300 vacuum cleaner. Here are a dozen other vacuum cleaners that you are very likely to buy too. We'll keep sending you emails every few days, tempting you with more and more vacuum cleaners to go with the one you just bought. Because you can never have too many vacuum cleaners."
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:43 PM (t+qrx)


That stuff just makes me laugh. I've bought lots of things online, where really, any human knows you only need one. The algorithm keeps trying to sell me more, and I can't be mad at them. They'll figure it out.

But the recommendations thing, I believe there are humans who fudge the system so you get recommended, say, the newest Taylor Swift recording, when you've been buying Debussy and Tom Waits albums from your online retailer, and are not about to change over to blonde bubblegum airheads now.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:47 PM (cY3LT)

401 391: Gifting, invites, and folks annoying me much more than cuppa ever will

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:48 PM (U7k5w)

402 "I try not to criticize anyone's taste here because it's subjective"

And we appreciate it!

Posted by: OM's pants selections at July 21, 2019 12:50 PM (35XGF)

403 If I had to take okra and kale I would skip the discount and just go to the farmers market in Trenton which does have meat and dairy.
Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (U7k5w)


Egad, okra and kale are the devil's produce. Or a communist plot.

Or both.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:50 PM (cY3LT)

404 "No Forward!" screamed Bill Fawcett and every other writer at a panel I attended in reply to one struggling writer wanting to explain the whole back story for his space opera. Fawcett's wife went on to describe a Forward as this congealed lump of undigestable words.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 12:50 PM (kbJA/)

405 figure we don't really know what we want. So they're going to guide us to the right side of things.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:38 PM

It's hard work, but someone's got to do it.

Sadly, 25+ million of you aren't guidable.
Posted by: Wm. "Bill" Ayers & The MSM at July 21, 2019 12:46 PM (35XGF)


Seriously though, I've been looking at things through a Keynesian lens lately, and that helps me to understand the motivation behind much of this.

We'll get ours, let them get there's, and who cares where it all ends up, because by then we'll be dead and it won't matter anymore.

When seen from this view, the actions of our so-called left and right leaning parties start to make sense. We're just pawns in their chess game.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:56 PM (cY3LT)

406 403: Making this farm's policies worth joining up. Let the local libs eat okra at the shore.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:56 PM (U7k5w)

407 Hi,
I'm the one who wrote the comment about the Memorial of St. Helena. This is it on gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/53967

Napoleon was considered a POW. He was guarded all the time. He expressed on a few occasions that he wished he'd been shot instead of exiled. It is good for history that he was exiled because we found out much about him including his own view of his life. He met many English who visited St Helena on the way to or from Europe, who requested to meet him. Some of them had been his military adversaries. He sometimes spent hours talking to them. P.S. He was not poisoned. That was debunked. He died of stomach cancer.

Posted by: microcosme at July 21, 2019 12:57 PM (B+xWY)

408 And communists seem to love kale.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 12:59 PM (U7k5w)

409 And opposing that probably does count as "plotting
against her," because when a crowned head makes themselves God's
representative on earth, we're all supposed to agree, right?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 10:19 AM (HIUfw)


As opposed to holding the franchise directly from the Pope, who was elected by the Cardinals from among their own members, I understand your concern.

You can hate the Tudors as much as you want, but Elizabeth was the compromise candidate. She had to hold a majority of her nobles, soldiers and moneymen together in a coalition, which meant she had to be traditional in stance, economically inoffensive, charismatic, and provide a chance for the military to earn loot and glory. The fact that she was a woman, was tasked with defending the coastline and Scottish border without a taxation system to support the expense and an exchequer that was exhausted by Henry VIII, and could not marry anyone without alienating a large chunk of her support made finding traditional ways of getting more money impossible and made ruling England hard.
In many ways I suspect she was managed by her advisors and supporters, but clearly did a lot to avoid being forced into decisions.


The age of religious wars was actually an age of determination of who held power in the state, and who held power over each state. While the Pope and the Church claimed supremacy, the Reformation was a drive by states for self determination in making decisions. Remember, the Pope and his Cardinals were humans and ran a bureaucracy, and though they claimed to speak for God, they had relations and homes and business interests. Not all their decisions were for the best of mankind, and not a few royal houses or branches were ended because of a decision of the Pope.

The Reformation did wind up bringing in a new view of the relationship of God and Man, which being raised a Protestant, I never realized was a thing until I wound up in a Catholic boys's school for a year. The Reformation moved the relationship from being intercession by Mary and the Saints to God, to being directly man to God via the sacrifice of Jesus. What started as a drive to force the Church to allow local decision making on dynastic and liturgical matters, became a cultural drive to allow personal conscience to religious observance instead of directed forms from Rome or Westminster ( or Aachen or wherever.) There was a justifiable fear that this religious stance would become a cultural one, that would shatter kingdoms, pull down thrones, and create anarchy.

Henry VIII created a powder keg through economic stress and declaring a state church, which Mary tried to suppress and reverse, which Elizabeth had to ride and keep under control. All the sectarian in-fighting and plotting and counter reformation moves, and the various factions and interests working for and against each other created huge stresses in society and threatened to spark of into a civil war, which had been avoided for quite a while.

That in the face of this Elizabeth didn't go full Red Queen and start taking heads from everyone who defied
her is a miracle, though she probably had the bad example of Mary and Henry VII ahead
of her to show where that one led to.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2019 01:01 PM (vJw+j)

410 I didn't mean Aachen, I meant some other, Lutheran, place. Sorry.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2019 01:03 PM (vJw+j)

411 So yeah, maybe I enjoy pointing it out more than I should. Especially today, when I actually feel sorry for the kids growing up, because it really has gotten steadily worse.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2019 12:43 PM (cY3LT)


I don't agree with this at all. Yes it's hard being original when everything's been done but strong musical voices with something to say will stand out.

As an example my wife and I took a cruise around the British islands in 2000. The music director on the small ship had local musical talent brought on board to perform. Some of them were traditional choral groups that I found a complete snooze while still being very well done. But at the Shetland Island a trio of young girl fiddlers and two of their's mother on piano, called Filska, were just outstanding playing their takes of the traditional genre. The lead fiddler, Jenna Reid, was obviously very talented (and cute) and I picked up a CD that I still listen to.

Thanks to the Internet I've sporadically checked up on them. I don't know if they're still a working group (they had subsequent releases and the group partially reformed with the mother dropping out) but thanks to Spotify I can listen to Jenna's further adventures.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 21, 2019 01:07 PM (y7DUB)

412 Well, they did poison Nappy once he got to St. Helena.

More deniability that way.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 09:18 AM (I2/tG)

Why would they need deniability? Just hold a trial, convict him of waging war against Britain, and hang his runty ass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:07 PM (abNpZ)

413 Eris, the only Simak I can remember off hand is Way Station. Iirc it was rather melancholy - part of the "humans are doomed to blow themselves up" genre
Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 09:21 AM (dm05u)

I remember reading "City" by Simak. Most humans have voluntarily left Earth to have their consciousness and personality transferred into creatures called "lopers" which inhabit the incredibly beautiful planet, Jupiter. Earth is left to the dogs, which are now fully sentient. and smart on a human level. The dogs all possess little robots called "hands" which enable them to do things that one needs hands to do.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:14 PM (abNpZ)

414 http://www.swoyersart.com/andrew_wyeth/dr_syn.htm
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:25 AM (kQs4Y)

The Doc is looking a little peaked. He needs a few good meals.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:18 PM (abNpZ)

415 I think we have the 2nd lowest energy rates in the country.
Posted by: HA at July 21, 2019 11:55 AM (MAstk)


But Kate is working on that.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2019 01:25 PM (vJw+j)

416 Simak and intelligent dogs with 'hands,' it set up a resonance in the memory banks nyah. So went padding over to the shelves to find the sympathetic story. In Before the Universe by Pohl and Kornbluth there is a short story called "Best Friend" in which humans have evolved into frail super intelligent beings while the dogs have been reshaped by the Masters to be their servants.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 01:25 PM (kbJA/)

417 I watched a interesting documentary on amazon prime based on this book:

Early Islamic Qiblas: A survey of mosques built between 1AH/622 C.E. and 263 AH/876 C.E.
By Dan Gibson

The theory is Petra not Mecca was the original prayer direction of the Mohammadans. His evidence is the prayer direction of early Mosques, lack of match between Quran and Meccan geography, and the Second Islamic Civil War.


Posted by: Dread0 at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (Bptbo)

I would quibble with the way the dates are rendered in the title. Presumably "AH" is some sort of muzzie dating, but "CE" should be rendered as "AD". And since the intended audience for this book is presumably Christians, or non-Christians raised in a Christian environment, might as well set the muzzie date span in a set of brackets.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:28 PM (abNpZ)

418 [This was written by a women named Lucia Abell (nee Balcombe) who lived on St. Helena when she was 13. Her family became friends of Napoleon; she and her sister spoke French. Yes, Napoleon was guilt-tripping her but in those days I think it was normal to do that.]

"A day or two before we embarked, my father, my sister and myself rode to Longwood, to bid adieu to the emperor. He was in his billiard room, surrounded by books, which had arrived a few days before. He seemed much depressed at our leaving the island, and said he sincerely regretted the cause; he hoped my dear mother's health would soon be restored, and sent many affectionate messages to her, she being too ill to accompany us to Longwood. When we had sat with him some time, he walked with us in his garden, and with a sickly smile pointed to the ocean spread out before us, bounding the view, and said, "Soon you will be sailing away towards England, leaving me to die on this miserable rock. Look at those dreadful mountains--they are my prison walls. You will soon hear that the Emperor Napoleon is dead." I burst into tears, and sobbed, as though my heart would break. He seemed much moved at the sorry manifested by us. I had left my handkerchief in the pocket of my side-saddle, and seeing the tears run fast down my cheeks, Napoleon took his own from his pocket and wiped them away, telling me to keep the handkerchief in remembrance of that sad day.
We afterwards returned and dined with him. My heart was too full of grief to swallow; and when pressed by Napoleon to eat some of my favorite bon-bons and creams, I told him that my throat had a great swelling in it, and I could take nothing.
The hour of bidding adieu came at least. He affectionately embraced my sister and myself, and bade us not forget him; adding that he should ever remember our friendship and kindness to him, and thanked us again and again for all the happy hours he had passed in our society. He asked me what I should like to have in remembrance
of him. I replied, I should value a lock of his hair more than any other gift he could present. He then sent for
Monsieur Marchand, and desired him to bring in a pair of scissors and cut off four locks of hair for my father and mother, my sister, and myself, which he did. I still possess that lock of hair; it is all left me of the many tokens of remembrance of the Great Emperor.

Posted by: microcosme at July 21, 2019 01:29 PM (B+xWY)

419 I was putting away books and stumbled across what may be the lovecraftiest Lovecraft tale of all, The Thing on the Doorstep:

"It is true that I have sent six bullets through the head of my best friend, and yet I hope to shew by this statement that I am not his murderer. At first I shall be called a madman—madder than the man I shot in his cell at the Arkham Sanitarium.

...So I say that I have not murdered Edward Derby. Rather have I avenged him, and in so doing purged the earth of a horror whose survival might have loosed untold terrors on all mankind."


It's the usual unholy chowder of inbred Insmouthians, academics dabbling in dark arts they do not fully understand, and beings who violate the laws of earthly physics.

"What lay behind our joint love of shadows and marvels was, no doubt, the ancient, mouldering, and subtly fearsome town in which we lived—witch-cursed, legend-haunted Arkham, whose huddled, sagging gambrel roofs and crumbling Georgian balustrades brood out the centuries beside the darkly muttering Miskatonic."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 01:32 PM (kQs4Y)

420 After buying my truck I saw all kinds of Nissan ads on every computer I have. Which is weird because I didn't buy my truck on Amazon or anything.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 21, 2019 12:44 PM (aurSP)


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Here are some more trucks that you might be interested in.

Posted by: Alexa at July 21, 2019 01:35 PM (v4v6L)

421 Eris, does your gambrel roof gambol?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (kbJA/)

422 421 Eris, does your gambrel roof gambol?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 01:40 PM (kbJA/)
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You should see what my groin vault get up to!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 01:44 PM (kQs4Y)

423 How to open a new "BOOK" yeah sure.........

Posted by: saf at July 21, 2019 01:46 PM (5IHGB)

424 Just downloaded and started reading Correira's Son of the Black Sword.

Great heavens, this is the same guy who wrote the MHI books? I swear, the style and even genre are totally different. Even not quite through the first chapter, I can say I'm unlikely to get much sleep tonight, even if there aren't any sequels -- and I think I saw one at Amazon.

Talk about developing as a writer -- this is astonishing, truly.

Posted by: Empire1 at July 21, 2019 01:47 PM (ZWw89)

425 Has anyone read any of Alan Furst's books? I've just started them and can't read them fast enough. They are historical spy novels set from the 1930's through WWII and tell the stories of spy activities with characters from communist parties, French resistence, Polish resistence - not normally the WWII characters we usually see.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at July 21, 2019 01:49 PM (99Nt9)

426 425: I thought about it and stopped myself after reading a brief bio of Furst and his "European sensibilities". I do not know this, but the synopses lead me to believe that he'd be lionizing communist types. I'm sure some did some good things during the war, but there are other things on my list.

Posted by: CN at July 21, 2019 02:02 PM (U7k5w)

427 Hmm. I wpould suggest that Catchfartism is the gateway drug to Brownnoseism, I suspect.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:03 PM (CDGwz)

428 'would', dammit.

The great thing about posting on a near-dormant thread is that very few people will witness your screw ups, screwups, screw-ups.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:05 PM (CDGwz)

429 How to open a new "BOOK" yeah sure.........
Posted by: saf
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You, like, left-click,right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:07 PM (CDGwz)

430 Gee, it's really roomy in here. And, books.

Still work on 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb', Rhodes. It's a terrific book. One of the Sloan Technology Series.

Just the biographical sketches and anecdotes regarding the physicists involved makes it worth reading.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:11 PM (CDGwz)

431 The great thing about posting on a near-dormant thread is that very few people will witness your screw ups, screwups, screw-ups.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:05 PM (CDGwz)
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But the ones who do witness your grammatical droppings are the type to point and laff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 02:12 PM (kQs4Y)

432 431 The great thing about posting on a near-dormant thread is that very few people will witness your screw ups, screwups, screw-ups.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:05 PM (CDGwz)
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But the ones who do witness your grammatical droppings are the type to point and laff.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 02:12 PM (kQs4Y)

Unlike every other thread, we all come back to check the books till its finally dead. So, sorry, we all see your eras.

Books want save you.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 02:22 PM (cknjq)

433 I always review the book thread throughout the day

*points and laffs at errors*

Posted by: vmom check out this KU deal at July 21, 2019 02:24 PM (dm05u)

434 But the ones who do witness your grammatical droppings are the type to point and laff.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
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*points at nic*

Besides, I consider my leavings as fertilizer, rather than droppings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 02:26 PM (xSo9G)

435 Groin vault?

Think I shall surmount the apex to survey? Probably not prudent.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 02:27 PM (kbJA/)

436 There is moonbattery and then there is:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4pfakgv

I don't think this is satire, way too earnest and adept at spewing the Leftist word salad.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 02:31 PM (kbJA/)

437 I'm in that nether world of reading while cooking up a sauce and waiting for the food thread.

Hard to concentrate when there's 'maters and garlic wafting through the room.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 02:54 PM (kQs4Y)

438 I don't think this is satire, way too earnest and adept at spewing the Leftist word salad.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 02:31 PM (kbJA/)
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These people will be left behind while you and I find the good life in the off-world colonies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 02:56 PM (kQs4Y)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (7/20/19)

another ont in the can .jpg

Another ONT in the can.

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The Saturday Night Joke

Two sisters

Two sisters, one blonde and one brunette, inherit the family ranch. Unfortunately, after just a few years, they are in financial trouble..

In order to keep the bank from repossessing the ranch, they need to purchase a bull so that they can breed their own stock.

Upon leaving with $600, the brunette tells her sister, 'When I get there, if I decide to buy the bull, I'll contact you to drive out after me and haul it home.'

The brunette arrives at the man's ranch, inspects the bull, and decides she wants to buy it. The man tells her that he will sell it for $599, no less. After paying him, she drives to the nearest town to send her sister a telegram to tell her the news.

She walks into the telegraph office, and says, 'I want to send a telegram to my sister telling her that I've bought a bull for our ranch. I need her to hitch the trailer to our pickup truck and drive out here so we can haul it home.'

The telegraph operator explains that he'll be glad to help her, then adds, it will cost 99 cents a word. Well, after paying for the bull, the brunette realizes that she'll only be able to send her sister one word.

After a few minutes of thinking, she nods and says, 'I want you to send her the word 'comfortable.'

The operator shakes his head. 'How is she ever going to know that you want her to hitch the trailer to your pickup truck and drive out here to haul that bull back to your ranch if you send her just the word 'comfortable?'

The brunette explains, 'My sister's blonde. The word is big. She'll read it very slowly... 'com-for-da-bul.'

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Are we wiping out curiosity from our children? Where is the sense of adventure and exploration? Kids would rather be a You Tube star than an astronaut.

On the eve of the Apollo 11 anniversary, LEGO asked The Harris Poll to survey a total of 3,000 children in the United States, China, and the United Kingdom about their attitudes toward and knowledge of space. The results reveal that, at least for Western countries, kids today are more interested in YouTube than spaceflight.


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Midwest waters, The Manitowoc Minute Style.


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Biking the French way..........


Going through life with a chip on your vagina shoulder is no way to live girlfriend. H/T CBD

“Manspreading,” otherwise known as ‘having a pair of testicles’ – is where men sit with their legs spread apart on public transport.

23-year-old Laila Laurel says she designed the chair “following her own experiences of ‘manspreading'”.

“It came both from my own experiences of men infringing on my space in public, and also from ‘The Everyday Sexism Project’, a website founded by Laura Bates in which women self-testify about sexism they experience,” she told LadBible.


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Huh? Our neighbors to the north have a mafia problem. Who knew? More than igloos and sled dogs seized.

York Regional Police say they have arrested 15 people and seized $35 million worth of homes, sports cars and cash in a major trans-Atlantic probe targeting the most prominent wing of ‘Ndrangheta Mafia clan in Canada.

Responding to spike in shootings, arsons in Vaughan and the surrounding area in 2017, police started “Project Sindicato,” targeting a group accused of operating illegal backroom gambling dens in various cafes.

It resulted in what is believed to be the largest Mafia bust in Ontario’s history

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When you think of Finland what do you think of? Rapalas? Tasty food? How about the 1st ever heavy metal knitting championship. H/T Bitter Clinger

Knitting and heavy metal are two important crafts, but one doesn’t imagine that the two intersect very often. However, a few days ago, the two came together when Finland hosted the Heavy Metal Knitting World Championship — and it was legendary.


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How to become a chocolate snob. How to Taste Chocolate Like an ExpertThe taste of chocolate is subjective. Eat what you like. Eat what you can afford.

“Hold your nose,” instructs Cat Black. On her cue we spoon some melted chocolate into our mouths and taste without smelling, quietly considering what’s happening in our mouths. Contrary to the deliciousness my brain is anticipating, it’s an anticlimax: I can detect a slick of chocolate across my tongue and some vague sweetness, but almost no flavor.

After a few moments, Cat signals to let go of our noses. Whoosh! As the aroma molecules waft from my mouth to the back of my nose, they fire the nerve signals that tell my brain about the different compounds in the chocolate. Suddenly there’s a flood of flavors: rich chocolate, a little bitterness, some bursts of fruitiness. And just when I think the flavors are fading, I detect a wave of something else. Is it coffee? “You can see that a lot of the subtlety of the flavor of chocolate is in the aroma,” Cat says. By some estimates, only 10 to 20 percent of what we perceive as flavor comes from our taste buds—the rest is delivered through our nose.


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The ONT Musical Interlude


Rhyme or reason for tonight's selections? Nope.............


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All this Apollo talk has me thinking............

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Good help is hard to find. Really good help is even harder to find. Genius Award Winner.

A McDonald’s worker on probation for cocaine possession was arrested last night for dousing a customer with a large soft drink during a dispute at the drive-thru window, according to Florida court records.

Katrina Lee Jordan, 37, was working at the Pinellas Park restaurant when she and the male victim “began having a verbal argument.” The nature of the drive-thru dispute was not detailed in an arrest affidavit.

Cops allege that Jordan, seen at right, “took a large soft drink and threw it in the victim’s window,” striking the man and spilling the cup’s contents “all over his car and his clothing.”


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1 Hello?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (Ksjjk)

2 st

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (kQs4Y)

3 I guess nobody is here. I'll just go home.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (Ksjjk)

4 rd?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (kQs4Y)

5

Seven artists have asked New York City's Whitney Museum to remove their work from its biennial showcase of American art over a museum board member's ties to the sale of law enforcement supplies including tear gas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (aKsyK)

6 Hello Dear, how was your day?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (GaOgf)

7 So NOT close.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (kQs4Y)

8 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (7WaWV)

9 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (JFzNN)

10 ont!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (dm05u)

11
remember FAR OUT SPACE NUTS?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (qe9rM)

12 It is so hot in my area of Indiana that the roads are melting and the potholes are filling in by themselves.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (myjNJ)

13 Close, but....

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:03 PM (BiNEL)

14 Ahh the Grassroots. Many an evening making out with those guys playing in the background.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:03 PM (dUJdY)

15

Is Ndrangheta an Italian name?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 10:04 PM (aKsyK)

16 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:04 PM (arJlL)

17 remember FAR OUT SPACE NUTS?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (qe9rM)

"I said lunch, not launch!"

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 20, 2019 10:04 PM (xPl2J)

18 Evening Horde!

No fish were caught today, but I did work on my tan.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (Z/1Kk)

19 It's so hot here that I just saw two hobbits throw a ring into my yard.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (myjNJ)

20 The memory is the second thing to go.

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (kLxSO)

21 Well, now that you ask.. spent the late morning, early afternoon helping my son move in the blistering heat. I held the door open for people. LOL! I know my limits. Well... plus I paid for the movers so..

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:06 PM (dUJdY)

22 Eighty-second!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 10:06 PM (I2/tG)

23 Some hammocks are more peaceful than others.
see niclink

Howdy, ONTlings.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for Ozzy Man Bears v Hammock at July 20, 2019 10:06 PM (mZLmb)

24 Well, at least I am sure they are very polite Mafia, eh?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:06 PM (BiNEL)

25 Tell the kids that if they become the first people on Mars, it is going to be like Big Brother On F**king Mars. Everything is getting filmed and beamed back to Erf.

Posted by: empress wu at July 20, 2019 10:06 PM (ykYG2)

26 Upate4 on Dad

He is back home, they released him today. Doctor has ordered him to rest and do nothing strenuous for the next few days. Has nothing but praise for the surgical team that went in and fixed him. They only found one blockage area so only one stent.

Thanks for all the prayers Horde.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (cH3lq)

27 off Tang Jin Dynasty Foot-Bound Sock

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (ykYG2)

28 Another ONT in the can."

Well, let it out!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (6qErC)

29 Com for da bull. Sounds like an invitation for the ONT.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (GaOgf)

30 It's so hot here that I just saw two hobbits throw a ring into my yard.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (myjNJ)

Hey, free ring.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (t+qrx)

31 That "hammock" looks like one of those hanging shelters some trekkers use...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 10:08 PM (7WaWV)

32 Anna I guess I missed what was going on with your dad. Glad he's doing better.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:08 PM (dUJdY)

33 I'll tell you one thing we're doing that will come back and bite us; strollers for older children.

You see it all the time now. Some mother pushing a 2-5 year old around in a stroller while the kid is belted in and can't move.

1. Children need to be active to exercise their nerves and muscles and gain coordination. It's particularly important when they are very young.

We're preventing that.

2. Children need express themselves and their energy and their curiosity and again see #1.

We're suppressing that.

I don't know if mothers do it because it's easier than riding heard over the kid or because the kid is lazy or what but it's a practice that seem universal now and it will come with costs later on.

One of them being early onset obesity with all it's attending diseases and tragedy.

This shit has got to stop ladies.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at July 20, 2019 10:08 PM (W+zVf)

34 FAR OUT SPACE NUTS

At my age, far out nuts isn't something I'm remembering so much as looking forward to. If that's the expression.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:09 PM (ykYG2)

35 Are we wiping out curiosity from our children?

Yes. Thank helicopter parenting, the education system, law enforcement and CPS.

Where is the sense of adventure and exploration? Dead as a doornail. See above.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2019 10:09 PM (NWiLs)

36 Wow, old sock. Haven't posted from the iPad in a while.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 10:09 PM (t+qrx)

37 Anna I guess I missed what was going on with your dad. Glad he's doing better.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:08 PM (dUJdY)

Same here Anna. Belated prayers up!






















Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:09 PM (BiNEL)

38 It's so hot here that I just saw two hobbits throw a ring into my yard.

Oh yeah?

Well it's so hot here I saw two crackheads putting copper back into an air conditioning unit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:10 PM (Ksjjk)

39 29 Com for da bull. Sounds like an invitation for the ONT.
Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (GaOgf)


Ha.

It was good, how was yours?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:10 PM (aA3+G)

40 I don't know if mothers do it because it's easier than riding heard over the kid or because the kid is lazy or what but

This shit has got to stop ladies.
Posted by: jakee308

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One of the neighborhood moms picks her kids up at the bus stop which is 6-8 houses away from their home.

The boys are 11 and 14.

They don't have a chance.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (Z/1Kk)

41 So the storm system that swept through Minn and Wis last night was a Derecho... https://preview.tinyurl.com/lzqywzc

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (jY3BZ)

42 Well it's so hot here I saw two crackheads putting copper back into an air conditioning unit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:10 PM (Ks
Now, that's hot!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (BiNEL)

43 It was good, how was yours?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:10 PM (aA3+G)

Fabulous!

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (GaOgf)

44 Hrothgar's taken up speculating in real estate, I see...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (7WaWV)

45 Jordan's rap sheet includes convictions for scheme to defraud, violating probation, and passing bad checks or currency.

She single?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (ykYG2)

46 The boys are 11 and 14.

They don't have a chance."

BETO!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 10:12 PM (6qErC)

47 I know you. You get bull joke from Hee-Haw.
That OK, funny funny.

Com-for-da-bull

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 10:12 PM (c8xLq)

48 Hrothgar's taken up speculating in real estate, I see...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 10:11 PM (7WaWV)

Starting small, but I intend to really expand!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (BiNEL)

49 Sure fire curiosity, adventure and confidence killers for kids are making sure they hear the following words more than anything else:

Stop.
Don't.
You can't.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (NWiLs)

50 Sat Nite Joke LOL !!

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (arJlL)

51 Do you know how much trouble 2 hooligans can do within 6 - 8 houses?

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (BbGew)

52 A lady saw three parrots for sale. They were priced was $150, $100, and $10.
Lady asks why one is so cheap and the owner said it used to live in a whorehouse. Lady laughs and buys the bird. When she gets it home it says, wow! This is a great new whorehouse. She laughs again.
When her teen age daughters get home the bird says, great, two new whores. They all laugh.
The husband comes home. Bird says, hey Joe! Glad you found our new location!


And that's when the fight started.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (myjNJ)

53 I could manspread all over that chair.

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 10:14 PM (UdKB7)

54 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (myjNJ)

That was funny!

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:14 PM (GaOgf)

55 Playing a video from the ONT

Get to the bottom of comments

Hit refresh

Music cuts off

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for Ozzy Man Bears v Hammock at July 20, 2019 10:15 PM (mZLmb)

56 Some people are trying to do something.

British Airways said Saturday it had suspended flights to Cairo for seven days as a precautionary measure following a security review.

German carrier Lufthansa also said it was suspending flights to Cairo from Munich and Frankfurt just for Saturday without giving any reason.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 10:16 PM (I2/tG)

57 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (myjNJ)

LOL! Love it!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:16 PM (dUJdY)

58 Posted by: mindful webworker - click for Ozzy Man Bears v Hammock at July 20, 2019 10:15 PM (mZLmb)

Was the song "You Can't Always Get What You Want..."

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:16 PM (BiNEL)

59 Anna I guess I missed what was going on with your dad. Glad he's doing better.
Posted by: Jewells45

Same here. And ditto.

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:16 PM (arJlL)

60 Biking the French way..........

LOL.

... I'm still laughing.

These idiot bikers might even be better than the British dorks who chase that big rolling cheese wheel down the hill and end up breaking an average of 2.4 bones apiece.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:18 PM (6fsOH)

61 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:13 PM (myjNJ)

Heh. More like that one please!

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 10:18 PM (kLxSO)

62 If you want to see what comes after the bikes crashing on the ice, take a look at "The Mountain of Hell" race. It is the go-pro camera of the eventual winner for the next 30 minutes. Harrowing to say the least.


https://tinyurl.com/y3p3lxu7

Posted by: Not That Guy at July 20, 2019 10:19 PM (F3TDN)

63 a website founded by Laura Bates in which women self-testify about sexism they experience

"self-testify"? WTFF is that?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:19 PM (6fsOH)

64 What happened to your father, Anna?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:19 PM (GaOgf)

65 Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 10:16 PM (I2/tG)

....

I guess we're just left to assume that British Airways and Lufthansa are racist.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:21 PM (Ksjjk)

66 Don't let anyone treat you like free salsa.
You are cheese dip baby. You... Are....Cheese...Dip.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:21 PM (myjNJ)

67
g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 20, 2019 10:22 PM (KCxzN)

68 48
Starting small, but I intend to really expand!
--------------------------
I see, my son. That will be a penance of 4 Hail Marys.

Posted by: stumck at July 20, 2019 10:23 PM (IpZ/y)

69 That bicycle video must be a metaphor for something, but I don't know what.

Whose idea was it to ride bicycles down an icy hill?

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 10:23 PM (sdi6R)

70 "self-testify"? WTFF is that?

They're testy...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 10:23 PM (6qErC)

71 What do you do when a blonde throws a grenade at you? Pull the pin and throw it back!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:24 PM (myjNJ)

72 I guess we're just left to assume that British Airways and Lufthansa are racist.

I flew Egypt Air New York-Cairo about ten years ago.

The Egyptians clearly didn't trust TSA, because they had their own security people at the gate, who were going very carefully through everyone's carryon luggage.

A tough part of the world.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 10:25 PM (I2/tG)

73 It's so hot here that I just saw two hobbits throw a ring into my yard.

Its so hot here, I came in from outside and got a water from the fridge, I felt the cold air from the fridge and wondered how much trouble it would be to cut a hole in the door so I could hang my balls in the fridge.

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:25 PM (arJlL)

74 Q: How can you steal the window seat of a blonde on a plane going to London?

A: Tell her the seats that are going to London are all in the middle row.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:26 PM (myjNJ)

75 Hi Insom!

Hiya Horde!

Hello flowers! Hello trees! Hello clouds!
It's sunny and 75 here, mountains are out, breeze out of the north. Gorgeous day here in Sea Town.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:26 PM (PkVlr)

76 Hello Alton!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:26 PM (dUJdY)

77 15.ndragheta is the Calabrian mob.

Posted by: kallisto at July 20, 2019 10:27 PM (2vJ77)

78 The Egyptians clearly didn't trust TSA"

No one trusts the TSA.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 10:27 PM (6qErC)

79 Thanks for all the prayers Horde.

Glad to hear everything turned out good for you and your family Anna.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 10:27 PM (K22Va)

80 Hey, AltonJackson

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 10:27 PM (t+qrx)

81 wondered how much trouble it would be to cut a hole in the door so I could hang my balls in the fridge.

Annnddd... wine all over my monitor. Thanks.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:28 PM (dUJdY)

82 Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:25 PM (arJlL)

You could put one of those freezer packs in your shorts. Who cares about shrinkage?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:28 PM (GaOgf)

83 78 The Egyptians clearly didn't trust TSA"

No one trusts the TSA.No one trusts the Government, Period.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 10:27 PM (6qErC)


Had to opine

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:28 PM (aA3+G)

84 The riders in the bicycle video had no idea that the whole purpose of the race was to entertain random people on the Interweb.

Thanks! Never wise up, peeps.

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 10:29 PM (kLxSO)

85
1. Children need to be active to exercise their nerves and muscles and gain coordination. It's particularly important when they are very young.

We're preventing that.

2. Children need express themselves and their energy and their curiosity and again see #1.

We're suppressing that.


Get a flexi-leash instead.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2019 10:29 PM (Wx/+I)

86 Is it ok to use my AM radio after NOON?

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:29 PM (myjNJ)

87 82 Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:25 PM (arJlL)

You could put one of those freezer packs in your shorts. Who cares about shrinkage?
Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:28 PM (GaOgf)

You?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:29 PM (aA3+G)

88 ceCorp, LLC. 5 out of 5 cucks despise The ONT.

You know who else despised The ONT?

Posted by: Somme Daywalker at July 20, 2019 10:29 PM (DMUuz)

89
hey Jewells, hogmartin

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 20, 2019 10:30 PM (KCxzN)

90 Yeah, well its so hot here its just like...

Oh, every other damn summer.

Never mind.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 20, 2019 10:30 PM (NgKpN)

91 Tom is applying for a job as a signalman for the local railroad, and is told to meet the inspector at the signal box. The inspector decides to give Tom a pop quiz, asking, "What would you do if you realized that two trains were heading towards each other on the same track? " Tom says, "I would switch one train to another track. " "What if the lever broke? " asks the inspector. "I'd run down to the tracks and use the manual lever, " answers Tom. "What if that had been struck by lightning? " challenges the inspector. "Then, " Tom continues, "I'd run back up here and use the phone to call the next signal box. " "What if the phone was busy? " "In that case, " Tom argues, "I'd run to the street level and use the public phone near the station ". "What if that had been vandalized? " "Oh, well, " says Tom, "in that case I'd run into town and get my Uncle Leo. "This puzzles the inspector, so he asks, "Why would you do that? " "Because he's never seen a train crash! "

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:31 PM (myjNJ)

92 Have a good night my hordelings!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:32 PM (myjNJ)

93 The French Connection went through the Canadian based mafia IIRC .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:32 PM (2DOZq)

94 I taught my boys how to climb trees and jump out of swings.

I got some really dirty looks when I taught them how to back flip out of the swings. Other kids kept drifting over for lessons and their overprotective parents would drive them away and scold me.

I told them it's better if I teach them how to do it properly.

To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:32 PM (PkVlr)

95 ( looks up self- testify)
Ah, here it is
Self-testify - verb, to make up shit

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 10:32 PM (BbGew)

96 You are cheese dip baby. You... Are....Cheese...Dip.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:21 PM (myjNJ)


El Azteco cheese dip?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 10:33 PM (t+qrx)

97 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:29 PM (aA3+G)

You know why women can't measure?

Because all their life they've been told that this________________________is eight inches.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 10:33 PM (GaOgf)

98 "self-testify"

I.e., they make shit up.

I'm watching Mr Sunshine's first episode, involving nineteenth Korean serfdom / slavery. I doubt the modern snowflakes would last long in a system with real oppression under real despots.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:33 PM (ykYG2)

99 Evening!

Got. A good carb coma going here.. it's our anniversary and we just got back from dinner at our favorite Spanish tapas restaurant.

I may not last too long!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 20, 2019 10:33 PM (438dO)

100

We usually have magnificent sunsets, crazy clouds, all kinds of colors, but...

Two days in a row the sun has set with absolutely no clouds in the sky, just dusky blue sky and a blazing disc on the horizon saying, "here, have a last blast of radiation!"

One more day before the weather breaks. So they say.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 10:34 PM (mZLmb)

101 Good night madam.. great jokes!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:34 PM (dUJdY)

102 Hotter than a fresh-f*cked fox in a forest fire.

Hotter than a three-peckered goat in a pepper patch.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:34 PM (Ksjjk)

103 You could put one of those freezer packs in your shorts. Who cares about shrinkage?

I was thinking seriously about inventing freezer pack jockey shorts.

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:35 PM (arJlL)

104 When women wearing scoop chest tops stop leaning forward men can stop man spreading.

Posted by: epador at July 20, 2019 10:35 PM (RyIfn)

105 Good night madam.. great jokes!
Posted by: Jewells45

Seconded.

Well, not The goodnite part.

Yet.

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:36 PM (arJlL)

106 Yep, that's Creed Bratton from The Office playing for The Grass Roots.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 10:36 PM (S7WbR)

107 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:31 PM (myjNJ)

Bring em!

I was working in my front yard and hung my camo jacket on the gatepost.

A guy drives up, hops out of his car and grabs my jacket. As he gets back behind the wheel, I notice he has only one leg.

"You one legged prick!" I yell. "You got my camo jacket. You can hide, but you can't run!"

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 10:37 PM (kLxSO)

108 Avengers Endgame has surpassed Avatar at the box office. This great national shame has finally been lifted.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 10:38 PM (LxTcq)

109 Where did the name Apollo for the US Moon mission come from?

January 1959 discussions on a post-Mercury program. Art Silverstein who offered up the suggested name did so since, "it was just an attractive name."

pg 14. We Reach the Moon. John Noble Wilford. Bantam Books. July 1969.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 10:38 PM (cH3lq)

110 Okay, one last joke before I exit......


On a rural road a state trooper pulled this farmer over and said: "Sir, do you realize your wife fell out of the car several miles back? " To which the farmer replied: "Thank God, I thought I had gone deaf! "


That's all, folks!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:38 PM (myjNJ)

111 hi ONTers

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 10:38 PM (GBteo)

112 I was thinking seriously about inventing freezer pack jockey shorts.
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:35 PM (arJlL)


Relevant space content:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6mwrcrr

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 10:39 PM (t+qrx)

113 hiya harry!

how's the life of the young, wicked and handsome?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:39 PM (PkVlr)

114 I always took my three kids out to the Pinnacles formation north of Lake Arrowhead to free-climb some formidable rock formations. Including the daughter with Down's. It was good for all of them, especially Lauren the Gentle. She turned out to be a good climber, and later, a pretty good shot. No accidents, no broken bones.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 20, 2019 10:40 PM (w7U7L)

115 On the opposite side of the coin are the Trailer Park trash and low income urban parents/ parent that let or force their kids to become adults way too soon.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:40 PM (2DOZq)

116 For those who missed the posts Friday, Dad had suffered a minor heart attack Thursday night.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 10:40 PM (cH3lq)

117 Thanks to all the jokers here, I needed a good laugh before I toddled off to bed, and I got several good laughs instead.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:40 PM (BiNEL)

118 I gotta think freezer pack jockey shorts already exist.

I think keeping the balls cool is one of the recommendations for dudes trying to build up their sperm count.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:41 PM (Ksjjk)

119 how's the life of the young, wicked and handsome?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:39 PM (PkVlr)

Eh, had a date tonight that didn't happen, so that's a bit of a bummer. And I don't have an AC (long story) and am suffering through a new england heat wave.

But other than that, everythings actually going remarkably well in my life, thanks for asking.

Hows everything with you?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 10:41 PM (GBteo)

120 For those who missed the posts Friday, Dad had suffered a minor heart attack Thursday night.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Still in hospital?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2019 10:41 PM (xSo9G)

121 Reminds me to again recommend to pull up the Dave Chappell's bit Baby on the Corner.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:41 PM (2DOZq)

122 121 Reminds me to again recommend to pull up the Dave Chappell's bit Baby on the Corner.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:41 PM (2DOZq)

"Baby, what you doing on the corner?"

"I'm selling weed!"

haha

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 10:42 PM (GBteo)

123 I was thinking seriously about inventing freezer pack jockey shorts.
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:35 PM (arJlL)

Relevant space content:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6mwrcrr
Posted by: hogmartin

That's nice and all, but I was thinking of a more immediate "Ahhhhhhhhh"

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:42 PM (arJlL)

124 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 10:40 PM (cH3lq)

....

Hate to hear that.

Prayers for a speedy recovery for him.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 10:42 PM (Ksjjk)

125
To which the farmer replied: "Thank God, I thought I had gone deaf! "


That's all, folks!
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:38 PM (

Well done young lady. All quality!

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 10:42 PM (kLxSO)

126 I think keeping the balls cool is one of the recommendations for dudes trying to build up their sperm count.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Nutz, hot nutz
You get 'em from the peanut man...

Posted by: Doug Clark and the Hot Nuts at July 20, 2019 10:43 PM (CDGwz)

127 Well Facebook finally shot me in the head. When a post went up about Tliab calling Trump a MFer ..they spelled it... I posted that Muslims are well known for massacres.

Well that triggered them.

So no Armenian Genocide Rememberance Day for instance on FB?

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2019 10:43 PM (OqSi4)

128 Sorry Anna, that had to be scary. Glad he's doing better.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 10:43 PM (dUJdY)

129
Hows everything with you?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

all is well. I survived 90 degrees with 90% humidity in central FLorida. The beach was fantastic! I got to meet Bboy and Bgal. awesome folks. Insom and I had a really nice time together.

Hopefully he'll be heading west in the fall.

Just got home from Mass, and I prayed for all yall.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:44 PM (PkVlr)

130 https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/mobile/
About 12 minutes to go until Neil Armstrong steps off the ladder

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 10:44 PM (BbGew)

131 My millennial niece told me I needed to move to Wisconsin to be with northern hillbillies like me so I could be with my people. I'm not sure if I'm pissed or not.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 10:44 PM (K22Va)

132 Anna, He will be okay. I bet they put him on a few new medications. Make sure he takes them and does his follow ups.

Prayers for continued recovery

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:45 PM (PkVlr)

133 Happy anniversary Chi-town !!! I hope you and your beloved share many more!!!

Posted by: Moki at July 20, 2019 10:45 PM (mFoNl)

134 nurse ratched #94:
back flip out of the swings

?? ??

From standing up?

Sounds like what I'd been thinking about recently (in my dotage): a couple of things I did in life that I did once to say I could and did twice to be sure the first time wasn't a fluke. Dived off the high tower. Standing back flip on the trampoline. Rolled a cigarette with my tongue, cowboy-style.

Took many a forward leap, but never thought of backflip off the swings.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 10:46 PM (mZLmb)

135 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2019 10:31 PM (myjNJ)

Nice joke

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:46 PM (aA3+G)

136 Okay, one last joke before I exit......


On a rural road a state trooper pulled this farmer over and said: "Sir, do you realize your wife fell out of the car several miles back? " To which the farmer replied: "Thank God, I thought I had gone deaf! "


That's all, folks!
Posted by: madamemayhem

One time I was driving, wearing a black shirt and my seatbelt was black.

A cop stopped me and asked me why I wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

I said " I am wearing a seatbelt"

He looked and said "Oh".

"nevermind".

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:46 PM (arJlL)

137 It's sunny and 75 here, mountains are out, breeze out of the north. Gorgeous day here in Sea Town.

But remember, thanks to gerbil warbeling, hundreds of people will soon be dying from heatwaves in Seattle.

Truly! The science is settled!

Posted by: Enviormentalists! at July 20, 2019 10:47 PM (I2/tG)

138 That's nice and all, but I was thinking of a more immediate "Ahhhhhhhhh"
Posted by: JT
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No problem. CO2 fire extinguisher.

You've probably heard the old expression, "What really frosts my balls is...."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)

139 Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 10:44 PM (K22Va)

You are more than welcome to move here

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:48 PM (aA3+G)

140 Anna Puma!!!

Thank goodness your dad is doing well!

I can highly recommend the DASH diet for cardiac patients. Husband is ten years out from his quad bypass, and is in great health. It's also not too bad to follow.

Posted by: Moki at July 20, 2019 10:48 PM (mFoNl)

141 Took many a forward leap, but never thought of backflip off the swings.
Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story


nah, sitting down. all you do is swing really high, lean back, tip your head back and let go at the top of the arc. the back flip practically does itself. all you really need to do is spot the landing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:48 PM (PkVlr)

142 But remember, thanks to gerbil warbeling, hundreds of people will soon be dying from heatwaves in Seattle.



Truly! The science is settled!

Posted by: Enviormentalists! at July 20, 2019 10:47 PM (I2/tG)

To be fair, the only ones that will be around to die from gerbil warbeling will be those that didn't drown when the seas rose, so it's not as bad as you made it sound!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 20, 2019 10:49 PM (BiNEL)

143 We've assimilated to the heat and humidity in Houston so I will not dismiss the dire warnings of this week's heatwave for those who are not used to it. It's just another Tuesday in Houston.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:49 PM (2DOZq)

144 all is well. I survived 90 degrees with 90% humidity in central FLorida. The beach was fantastic! I got to meet Bboy and Bgal. awesome folks. Insom and I had a really nice time together.

Hopefully he'll be heading west in the fall.

Just got home from Mass, and I prayed for all yall.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:44 PM (PkVlr)

Excellent. I'll be in that horrific hellhole of an area later this summer (central FL). I don't know how anyone thought it was a good idea to settle somewhere that is literally unlivable without air conditioning.

And yes, I think the horde needs as many prayers as we can get.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 10:50 PM (GBteo)

145 It's sunny and 75 here, mountains are out, breeze out of the north. Gorgeous day here in Sea Town.
----

Hmm. 74 deg. here, 10:50 pm so, can't see the mountains. Still have a few lightening bugs though.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2019 10:50 PM (CDGwz)

146 I do the Saturday Vigil Mass too usually, but this evening was too rainy and I thought it might get haily.

Will be doing it tomorrow AM.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:50 PM (ykYG2)

147 and Harry: sorry your day wasn't good. hope tomorrow is better.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:51 PM (ykYG2)

148 You are more than welcome to move here

It's getting worse tax and crime wise by the month. I was offered a space for a 3 season trailer on the Wolf to start. Maybe.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 10:52 PM (K22Va)

149 nah, sitting down. all you do is swing really high, lean back, tip your head back and let go at the top of the arc. the back flip practically does itself. all you really need to do is spot the landing.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Not. Happening.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2019 10:52 PM (CDGwz)

150 Mis Hum, thanks for The Grassroots. I like a lot of their stuff. "Midnight Confessions" is my fav but so many others are good also ("Sooner or Later", "Where Were You When I Needed You", to name just a couple.)


They never seem to get any airplay on the oldie stations.

Posted by: cfo mom at July 20, 2019 10:52 PM (RfzVr)

151 Parent health scares are tough. Prayers up for Moron parents who are having issues

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 10:54 PM (aA3+G)

152 Posted by: cfo mom at July 20, 2019 10:52 PM (RfzVr)

I have Sooner or Later on my play list.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:54 PM (2DOZq)

153 The Moon in mythology.

Cherokees ran wild during an eclipse banging kettles and making as much racket as possible to scare away the giant frog that was trying to eat the Moon.

In True History by the second century Greek Lucian of Samosata there is a story of a trip to the Moon and finding inhabitants who rode on the backs of three-headed vultures.

John Keats - "What is there in thee, moon, that thou shouldst move my heart so potently?"

pg 17-18. Ibid.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 10:55 PM (cH3lq)

154 To be fair, the only ones that will be around to die from gerbil warbeling will be those that didn't drown when the seas rose, so it's not as bad as you made it sound!

And we've all already died from losing net neutrality, of course.

There is a meteorologist at the University of Washington, Cliff Mass, who runs a regionally popular weather blog.

Mass believes in AGW, but he also believes in refuting particularly stupid assertions about AGW, like the deadly Seattle heatwaves claim.

As a result, local environmentalists hate him - you are not allowed to deviate from the Party Line, no matter how absurd the Party Line is.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 10:55 PM (I2/tG)

155 Two years ago tonight.

Weird Dave had the ONT. Brought to you by a ship-shipping ship, shipping shipping ships.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=370777

"GOULD" grabbed firstesses.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 10:56 PM (mZLmb)

156 how's the life of the young, wicked and handsome?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 10:39 PM (PkVlr)

Eh, had a date tonight that didn't happen, so that's a bit of a bummer. And I don't have an AC (long story) and am suffering through a new england heat wave.

One time some friends hooked me up with a blind date.

The woman's skin was so white, it made her teeth look yellow.

Or her teeth were so yellow, it made her skin look white.

I dunno which. All I know is, I took one look at her teeth and said to myself "I ain't stickin' my tongue in that yap".

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:57 PM (arJlL)

157 Those chairs, lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2019 10:57 PM (5aX2M)

158 146 I do the Saturday Vigil Mass too usually, but this evening was too rainy and I thought it might get haily.

Will be doing it tomorrow AM.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 1

{{{boulder}}}

I love worship in the original languages. I got to go to Latin Mass with our neighbor when his church offered it. It is beautiful.

Posted by: Moki at July 20, 2019 10:57 PM (mFoNl)

159 That's one small step for man
One giant leap for mankind

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 10:57 PM (BbGew)

160 147 and Harry: sorry your day wasn't good. hope tomorrow is better.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:51 PM (ykYG2)

Oh, thanks. Didn't mean to give off the impression my day was bad -- overall, had a pretty decent day -- got a lot done with work and around the house, spent many hours in the gym (it's air conditioned), got dinner with some friends. A little bummed about the date flaking on me, but I mean, she kind of sucks anyways, so it's not a huge loss.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 10:57 PM (GBteo)

161 nurse ratched #141:
nah, sitting down. all you do is swing really high, lean back, tip your head back and let go at the top of the arc. the back flip practically does itself. all you really need to do is spot the landing.

Right. I get it. Next time I'm twelve, I'm a-gonna give that a try!

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 10:58 PM (mZLmb)

162 Aerosmith. Sweet Emotion.
On me iTunes right now.

One of a precious few songs I never tire of hearing.

A precious few.

Classic rock has been wrung dry.

Sweet Emotion and Comfortably Numb make the cut.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 10:58 PM (aurSP)

163 Gerbil warbling is no joke!

Posted by: Richard Gere at July 20, 2019 10:58 PM (DMUuz)

164 I dunno which. All I know is, I took one look at her teeth and said to myself "I ain't stickin' my tongue in that yap".
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:57 PM (arJlL)

Heh.

Gotta use those whitening strips and get some sun, ya know?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 10:58 PM (GBteo)

165 Cherokees ran wild during an eclipse banging kettles and making as much racket as possible to scare away the giant frog that was trying to eat the Moon

True fact: since the First Consul succeeded in escaping Ebla, the contingency plan in case he'd escaped St Helena too would have been to exile him to the far side of la lune.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:58 PM (ykYG2)

166 I went to take the boat out to look at the moonrise on the river, but the tide was too low. So now I read the ONT.

Just as well, I'm pretty fried from the heat today.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 20, 2019 10:59 PM (7Llwi)

167 *Elba

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 10:59 PM (ykYG2)

168 Hiya Moki !

How was your Birthday ?

Was it enjoyable ?

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:59 PM (arJlL)

169 Gerbil warbling is no joke!
Posted by: Richard Gere at July 20, 2019 10:58 PM (DMUuz)

Does that involve circular breathing?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 10:59 PM (aurSP)

170 {{Moki}}!

The Mass is in English, but I might be singing something in Aramaic in a few weeks. I'm a little apprehensive.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 11:00 PM (ykYG2)

171 Radio Isotope Gerbil?

RIG?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 11:00 PM (cH3lq)

172 "self-testify"? WTFF is that?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:19 PM (6fsOH)

aka "Making Shit Up".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:01 PM (abNpZ)

173 and, ah, one giant splash for an Olds Mobile.

Posted by: Ted! at July 20, 2019 11:01 PM (ykYG2)

174 168 Hiya Moki !

How was your Birthday ?

Was it enjoyable ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 10:59 PM (arJlL)

It was!! I love being 29!!!! Kidlet and I watched season four of Bosch, and ate Chick Fil A. Can't beat that.

How are you??!!!

Posted by: Moki at July 20, 2019 11:02 PM (mFoNl)

175 Whose idea was it to ride bicycles down an icy hill?
Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 10:23 PM (sdi6R)

Well, riding bicycles up an icy hill is right out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:02 PM (abNpZ)

176 Whose idea was it to ride bicycles down an icy hill?
Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 10:23 PM (sdi6R)

I know! I know!

What is being a teenager in Cody, Wyoming in 1980?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (aurSP)

177 AOP-

I recently acquired a crescent wrench and the handle is solid steel that comes to a point.

What is the purpose of this ?

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (arJlL)

178
The Mass is in English, but I might be singing something in Aramaic in a few weeks. I'm a little apprehensive.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 11:00 PM (ykYG2)

That is AWESOME!!!!!!

I wish there was a way for you to record it and post on here. That would be an amazing Musical Interlude!!!

Posted by: Moki at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (mFoNl)

179 Well I am going to read a bit of We Reach the Moon. For the 50th anniversary of the landing and of the publication of the book which occurred 48 hours after splash down.

Found my copy at a garage sale.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (cH3lq)

180 What do I win?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (aurSP)

181 How are you??!!!

Posted by: Moki

Great !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:05 PM (arJlL)

182 The Moon in mythology.
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One word: Cheese

Posted by: Wallace and Gromit at July 20, 2019 11:06 PM (CDGwz)

183 I recently acquired a crescent wrench and the handle is solid steel that comes to a point.

What is the purpose of this ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (arJlL)

striking the assailant behind you.

Duh!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 11:06 PM (aurSP)

184 Buzz said it didn't bother him that the Chinese want to be astronaut s.
Said it is fresh to them so it's natural.

Also there's nothing here to excite the kids.
When we get something going our kids will be there.

Wisdom from the master.
he

Posted by: Charlie at July 20, 2019 11:06 PM (ePWRo)

185
Cherokees ran wild during an eclipse banging kettles and making as much racket as possible to scare away the giant frog that was trying to eat the Moon.

Sounds like the protesters in Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:06 PM (aKsyK)

186 I recently acquired a crescent wrench and the handle is solid steel that comes to a point.

What is the purpose of this ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (arJlL)


you can use it to align drilled holes
also useful for self-defense

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 11:07 PM (dm05u)

187 The three dogs are asleep on the floor. My husband is asleep in the recliner. It's another wild and crazy night!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 20, 2019 11:07 PM (Lqy/e)

188 Happy anniversary Chi-town !!! I hope you and your beloved share many more!!!

Posted by: Moki
.............
Thank you! 46 down and hopefully many more!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 20, 2019 11:07 PM (438dO)

189 What is the purpose of this ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (arJlL)

striking the assailant behind you.

Duh!
Posted by: Pug Mahon

LOL !

And then poke him in the eye with the point ?

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:07 PM (arJlL)

190 also useful for self-defense
Posted by: vmom
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In case you are attacked by a nut.

Posted by: Wallace and Gromit at July 20, 2019 11:09 PM (xSo9G)

191 To be fair, the only ones that will be around to die from gerbil warbeling will be those that didn't drown when the seas rose, so it's not as bad as you made it sound!

As elsewhere, the environmental movement in Portland is increasingly relying on using fifteen-year-olds as spokespeople (it helps if you aren't aware of the fifty-year history of false predictions of ecological doom).

Some of these kids recently testified before the Portland city council, and they really and truly believe that they personally will die from global warming, if we don't immediately dismantle industrial society. This is obviously something they are being taught at school.

How screwed up is it to tell young teenagers that their future is almost certainly hopeless, because of an overblown alleged threat?

You want to talk about evil - there it is.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:09 PM (I2/tG)

192 you can use it to align drilled holes
Posted by: vmom happy

LOOKITCHOO !

Not just another purty face, huh ?

Thanks !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:10 PM (arJlL)

193 At the Iowa Speedway for the IndyCar race. It rained earlier, around the scheduled start time. Rain has stopped and the track is mostly dry. Looks like they're going to try to run the race tonight. 10:09 PM local time. Going to be a late night.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 11:10 PM (wshbh)

194 also useful for self-defense
Posted by: vmom
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In case you are attacked by a nut.
Posted by: Wallace and Gromit

LOL !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:11 PM (arJlL)

195 LOL !

And then poke him in the eye with the point ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:07 PM (arJlL)

naw. Flail around like you're possessed. I might lose the fight, but the fookers will know they have been in a fight. I have surprisingly solid elbows.

Not to mention a berserker mindset that I keep carefully sated with Cheetos and beer.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 11:11 PM (aurSP)

196 ...I recently acquired a crescent wrench and the handle is solid steel that comes to a point.

What is the purpose of this ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (arJlL)




That's an Ironworkers' wrench. Most are fixed sized, open end wrenches, but with the same point.

When the crane is hosting "red-iron" (steel "I" beams and their corresponding vertical posts) into place, the Ironworker will ram the point of the wrench into the holes in the adjoining steel pieces to align them.

He'll then insert a bolt into the next adjacent hole, which will also have been "lined up" by the wrench exercise.

Removing the wrench, that hole is now also aligned to receive it's bolt.

Lather, rinse and repeat a few thousand times, and now your steel superstructure is complete.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 20, 2019 11:12 PM (QzJWU)

197 Sounds like the protesters in Puerto Rico.

Do you really want it?
Do you really want it?
Do you really want it?
Go, go, go, ale ale ale
Go, go, go, ale ale ale
Go, go, go, here we go, yeah

How dare anyone make fun of me, and my scared sexual preferences?

Posted by: Ricky Martin! at July 20, 2019 11:12 PM (I2/tG)

198 bzzzt ssstttt
That'szzz one small stepzztggh man
One gianzzz leap zortbsztankind.

That's what I heard.

It was still cool.

Then to stand outside and gaze up in great wonder at that companion orb with bootprints on it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 11:13 PM (mZLmb)

199 G'night y'all. I hope you all sleep well, and have a wonderful Sunday!!

Posted by: Moki at July 20, 2019 11:13 PM (mFoNl)

200 How screwed up is it to tell young teenagers that their future is almost certainly hopeless, because of an overblown alleged threat?

My first few weeks here in Boulder County I went downtown in time to see a march through the streets, led by a big plush polar bear, of little kids chanting "what do we want / STOP GLOBAL WARMING / when do we want it / NOWWW". And I saw all the preening white parents standing around recording it all.

You want to talk about evil - there it is.

Yeah. That.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 11:13 PM (ykYG2)

201 I recently acquired a crescent wrench and the handle is solid steel that comes to a point.

What is the purpose of this ?
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:04 PM (arJlL)


you can use it to align drilled holes
also useful for self-defense
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 11:07 PM (dm05u)

vmom has it right. Called a "spud wrench", IIRC. They make box end and open end wrenches in that style, too. Typically used in the construction trades.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:13 PM (abNpZ)

202
Something funny and sad I saw today...

https://youtu.be/SkfwWL27NJI?t=344

^^
Senator Reed gives a pathetic little wave while Chuck Schumer gives a "thumbs-up" sign to illegal immigrant men locked up at a boarder patrol facility. This is after they spend five minutes haranguing border patrol for not letting them go free.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 20, 2019 11:13 PM (GtG/j)

203 Right. I get it. Next time I'm twelve, I'm a-gonna give that a try!
Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story


I taught my boys, my Goddaughter and my nieces when they were 5-8. It was great fun getting the other parents to freak the fuck out.

I'm a gymnast. I have also coached some pretty damn good gymnasts. It isn't rocket science.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 11:15 PM (PkVlr)

204 Madam Mayhem's last joke reminds of the biker shirt that reads on the back: "If you can read this, the bitch fell off!"...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 11:15 PM (7WaWV)

205 Thanks AOP and Jim.

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:16 PM (arJlL)

206 Lindt 85% by itself. On bananas or with popcorn Hershey's milk chocolate is the yummyest.

Posted by: Charlie at July 20, 2019 11:17 PM (ePWRo)

207 202
Something funny and sad I saw today...

https://youtu.be/SkfwWL27NJI?t=344

^^
Senator Reed gives a pathetic little wave while Chuck Schumer gives a "thumbs-up" sign to illegal immigrant men locked up at a boarder patrol facility. This is after they spend five minutes haranguing border patrol for not letting them go free.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 20, 2019 11:13 PM (GtG/j)

So when does Congress put an end to the CBP and all border controls? (That is, if they are serious. But as we all know, per Emerson, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines .)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 11:18 PM (/0HPZ)

208 vmom has it right. Called a "spud wrench"

So, I could spear baked potatoes with it !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:18 PM (arJlL)

209 Made a major score at the local dump today. Found not one, but two of these, both complete with all their tubes:

https://www.dynakitparts.com/shop/mark-iii-kit-120-vac/


Looked around for the associated preamps; not to be found. Haz sad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:18 PM (abNpZ)

210 Bozo Conservative, earlier today:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=382364#c31071258

...And that night we watched the televised broadcast from the Moon.

I sat on the couch next to my Grandmother, who had known the Wright Brothers 60 plus years before. And we talked about what an incredible century it had been.

From the Wright Brothers to Apollo 11, in the lifetime of a person....

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 11:19 PM (mZLmb)

211 Yeah. That.

There is a lot of pressure being put on the mayor of Portland to declare a "climate emergency" - apparently this would be the climate version of martial law.

Some wags have already suggested that Portland city government can immediately take these steps to Save The Planet:

First, ban all plane travel by city employees and elected officials.

No more flying to Amsterdam on "fact-finding" missions to look at bicycle lanes. If you want to attend a "climate conference" in New York, take the train.

Second, eliminate the reserved parking spaces city council members have at city hall.

Third, require that all city employees take mass transit to work.

And so on...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:19 PM (I2/tG)

212 I've got a couple of adjustable spanners ("Crescent wrenches") that have another Crescent wrench (of a different size) on the other end -- a double Crescent wrench, as it were...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 11:19 PM (7WaWV)

213 This past week we cut the cord after researching for a while.
On Friday I called and cancelled Direct TV.
Since we got the high speed internet, netflix and kinetic tv, we haven't missed the old provider one little bit.
The savings are significant, too!

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 11:20 PM (GaOgf)

214 First, ban all plane travel by city employees and elected officials.

No more flying to Amsterdam on "fact-finding" missions to look at bicycle lanes. If you want to attend a "climate conference" in New York, take the train.

Second, eliminate the reserved parking spaces city council members have at city hall.

Third, require that all city employees take mass transit to work.

And so on...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:19 PM (I2/tG)

I'm frankly not against any of that, so...

Well, maybe the mass transit thing, that's obnoxious.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 11:20 PM (GBteo)

215 If you want to attend a "climate conference" in New York, take the train.

By freight, with the hoboes. I'll even chip in for the Thunderbird fund.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 11:21 PM (ykYG2)

216 213 This past week we cut the cord after researching for a while.
On Friday I called and cancelled Direct TV.
Since we got the high speed internet, netflix and kinetic tv, we haven't missed the old provider one little bit.
The savings are significant, too!
Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 11:20 PM (GaOgf)

Since I moved out of my parents house 10ish years ago, I've only had cable when it was free at one of the places I rented.

I honestly don't understand people who insist on paying $100+ a month to watch advertisements and shitty shows.

I feel like a Luddite saying that, but I mean...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 11:22 PM (GBteo)

217 Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 11:15 PM (PkVlr)

Once upon a time I dated some gymnasts those girls were limber

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 11:22 PM (aA3+G)

218 boulder, when and where will you be singing ? heading to Arvada for 3 weeks soon, would love to attend.

Posted by: chango butt at July 20, 2019 11:23 PM (B+t5k)

219 Made a major score at the local dump today. Found not one, but two of these, both complete with all their tubes:


Nice

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:23 PM (arJlL)

220 Holy Shit Marvel jumped the shark in Comic Con today. Natalie Portman is going the be Thor. There are some good sounding movies in the mix but it sounds like an identity politics train wreck over all. I'll catch the next Guardians just to complete the trilogy but not sure if that got an official announcement yet.

Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2019 11:24 PM (QCc6B)

221 This past week we cut the cord after researching for a while.
On Friday I called and cancelled Direct TV.
Since we got the high speed internet, netflix and kinetic tv, we haven't missed the old provider one little bit.
The savings are significant, too!
Posted by: ALH

Nice

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:24 PM (arJlL)

222 ...First, ban all plane travel by city employees and elected officials.

No more flying to Amsterdam on "fact-finding" missions to look at bicycle lanes. If you want to attend a "climate conference" in New York, take the train.

Second, eliminate the reserved parking spaces city council members have at city hall.

Third, require that all city employees take mass transit to work.

And so on...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:19 PM (I2/tG)

I'm frankly not against any of that, so...

Well, maybe the mass transit thing, that's obnoxious.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 11:20 PM (GBteo)




Well, if they don't wanna ride the bus or the train, then require that they ride a bicycle to work.

That's what they flew to Hampsterdam to "study" after all, right?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 20, 2019 11:24 PM (QzJWU)

223 No more flying to Amsterdam on "fact-finding" missions to look at bicycle lanes. If you want to attend a "climate conference" in New York, take the train.

And so on...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:19 PM



But, but "De Wallen" has some of the best designed bike lanes in the world!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 20, 2019 11:25 PM (7WaWV)

224 One sign that I'm getting old is that the Grass Roots'. "Temptation Eyes" is regularly played over the pa in my supermarket. Also, frontman Rob Grill died a few years ago.

Posted by: mercenary13 at July 20, 2019 11:25 PM (fvMOw)

225 chango butt : in Houston, for my grandmother, Kaddish. it really isn't a public performance

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 11:26 PM (ykYG2)

226 McDonald's. Argue with a redneck girl - she's not going to backup.

Posted by: Charlie at July 20, 2019 11:27 PM (ePWRo)

227 right on boulder. really cool. break a leg.

Posted by: chango butt at July 20, 2019 11:28 PM (B+t5k)

228 Rock & Roll will never die. Walmart is selling vinyl lp's. It was like deja vue seeing the cover of The Dark Side of the Moon in the electronics section.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 11:28 PM (GaOgf)

229 Looked around for the associated preamps; not to be found. Haz sad.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:18 PM (abNpZ

That's because the preamps were there earlier.

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 11:29 PM (kLxSO)

230 preamps were pre-empted

Posted by: chango butt at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (B+t5k)

231 Once upon a time I dated some gymnasts those girls were limber
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


we also have some pretty amazing muscle control.


......and I'm done

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (PkVlr)

232 Since I moved out of my parents house 10ish years ago, I've only had cable when it was free at one of the places I rented.

I honestly don't understand people who insist on paying $100+ a month to watch advertisements and shitty shows.

I feel like a Luddite saying that, but I mean...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 11:22 PM (GBteo)

That's funny, because cable TV was originally sold as commercial free TV.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (Rz2Nc)

233 I'm most pissed that the fat flabby boring looser that played Luke Cage in the Netflix series is going to be Blade! Talk about rubbing salt in the wound. Not only is that the death Nell of bringing the Netflix Daredevil to the MCU, but it's an insult to all the Denzel fans everywhere. I was a huge Denzel Washington fan back in the day. Talk about big shoes to fill. What a massive disappointment in casting.

Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (QCc6B)

234 What's up you morons? 50 years ago we landed on the freaking Moon.

Posted by: Farmer posting from. R at July 20, 2019 11:31 PM (2+yJZ)

235 we also have some pretty amazing muscle control.


......and I'm done
Posted by: nurse ratched

It was just getting interesting !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 11:32 PM (arJlL)

236 There are muscles which a minority of girls can control that have nothing to do with gymnastics.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 11:33 PM (fuK7c)

237 So.....what is the scoop on this supposed roundup and deportation of illegals that is/was supposed to happen?

Are there any stories out there about this?



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 20, 2019 11:34 PM (ufFY8)

238 That's because the preamps were there earlier.

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 11:29 PM (kLxSO)

230 preamps were pre-empted
Posted by: chango butt at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (B+t5k)

Quite possibly, or perhaps they were built into a piece of furniture that was kept. The KT88 tubes in the one I opened up are "Groovetubes". Maybe made by Sovtek? Looks like a selected matched pair.

Maybe Garrett knows something about these.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:35 PM (abNpZ)

239 Well, maybe the mass transit thing, that's obnoxious.

The background behind that is that Portland city government hates cars, and is constantly reducing the vehicle capacity of major arterial streets to force people out of their cars and onto bikes and mass transit. Sauce for the goose...

That's what they flew to Hampsterdam to "study" after all, right?

A former mayor of Portland led a "fact finding" delegation to Amsterdam. Once he got there, he ditched the rest of the delegation, because he was more interested in "fact finding" Amsterdam's gay bars than bike lanes.

This was the mayor who had sex with an underaged guy while in office. Since it's Portland, he wasn't prosecuted, but he did decide not to run for reelection.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:35 PM (I2/tG)

240

Healthy Vinyl Plant Growth
New pressing plants are sprouting up across the globe

https://tinyurl.com/y3sxkfxn

scroll down

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:35 PM (aKsyK)

241 What's up you morons? 50 years ago we landed on the freaking Moon.

Posted by: Farmer posting from. R at July 20, 2019 11:31 PM (2+yJZ)

Yep. Saw it live. Unforgettable.

Sad today that the spirit of those times is not to be found in what passes for our culture today.

Posted by: Halfwise at July 20, 2019 11:35 PM (kLxSO)

242 The top of that ice hill was actually the Maginot Line

Posted by: Biggus Dickus at July 20, 2019 11:36 PM (9MQsq)

243 A former mayor of Portland led a "fact finding" delegation to Amsterdam. Once he got there, he ditched the rest of the delegation, because he was more interested in "fact finding" Amsterdam's gay bars than bike lanes.

This was the mayor who had sex with an underaged guy while in office. Since it's Portland, he wasn't prosecuted, but he did decide not to run for reelection.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:35 PM (I2/tG)

Well, the rest of the delegation was either fact-finding in the brothels, or in the pot cafes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 11:36 PM (abNpZ)

244 That's funny, because cable TV was originally sold as commercial free TV.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (Rz2Nc)

Ha, yeah. So I hear.

I was at my ex's parents house a year or so ago and they were watching some screaming heads on MSNBC, then switching to some silly show about old cars during commercials, then back to screaming heads, but sometimes the commercials aligned, and...

All I could think was "this is worth $100+ a month? Yikes."

I mean, I pay $100 a year for prime (which I use mostly for the 2 day shipping, since I'm an internet hermit when it comes to shopping), and I use my sisters Netflix for free and my parents HBO Go for free, plus youtube and I feel like I have more content then I know what to do with. With minimal / no ads.

But I don't even watch that much TV or content to begin with.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 20, 2019 11:37 PM (GBteo)

245 Since we got the high speed internet, netflix and kinetic tv, we haven't missed the old provider one little bit.

"Provider" of what? (I so hate that word and the fact it is used for every damn thing...)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 11:37 PM (/0HPZ)

246 Chandrayaan, aka the Pajeet Probe, got delayed four days ago.

I'm actually sorry it did. I'm totally rooting for a Ballywood musical set in Tycho Crater.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 11:37 PM (ykYG2)

247

Kroger is the provider of my groceries.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:38 PM (aKsyK)

248 There are muscles which a minority of girls can control that have nothing to do with gymnastics.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

----

Okay girlie, it's true you plucked that $20 out of the beer bottle (no hands! ) but if you had real talent, you'd fold it.

HA!!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 20, 2019 11:38 PM (Z/1Kk)

249 This was the mayor who had sex with an underaged guy while in office. Since it's Portland, he wasn't prosecuted, but he did decide not to run for reelection.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:35 PM (I2/tG)

Crosses Portland, OR off places to ever visit.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 20, 2019 11:38 PM (Rz2Nc)

250 Well, the rest of the delegation was either fact-finding in the brothels, or in the pot cafes.

It's just fair compensation for all the suffering we endure on behalf of the People!

Posted by: Senior Portland Bureaucrats at July 20, 2019 11:39 PM (I2/tG)

251 Brit builds fart machine, points it at France

http://bit.ly/fart-machine

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 11:39 PM (mZLmb)

252 Greetings:

Re: Telegraph Jokes

College Student to Dad: No mun, no fun, your son.

Dad to College Student: Too bad, you're sad, your Dad

Posted by: 11B40 at July 20, 2019 11:40 PM (evgyj)

253
Crosses Portland, OR off places to ever visit.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42


Is there a city anywhere on this planet that is not run by people like that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:40 PM (aKsyK)

254 I bought a new grill yesterday at Walmart and assembled it today.

I felt like I was living out a Bill Burr skit as I put it together, just short of stomping it to pieces in frustration.

Turned out to be a pretty fun little grill. It's a charcoal grill on one side and a propane griddle on the other. Cooked some stir fry on it and it's a pretty good little griddle.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 11:40 PM (48XXE)

255 231 Once upon a time I dated some gymnasts those girls were limber
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


we also have some pretty amazing muscle control.


......and I'm done
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (PkVlr)


I bet you're not

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 11:41 PM (aA3+G)

256 233
I'm most pissed that the fat flabby boring looser that played Luke Cage
in the Netflix series is going to be Blade! Talk about rubbing salt in
the wound. Not only is that the death Nell of bringing the Netflix
Daredevil to the MCU, but it's an insult to all the Denzel fans
everywhere. I was a huge Denzel Washington fan back in the day. Talk
about big shoes to fill. What a massive disappointment in casting.

Posted by: Max Power


You're being sarcastic. <scows>

Posted by: Wesley Snipes at July 20, 2019 11:42 PM (Qt2ya)

257 I'm sitting here looking at my security camera feed watching a 6 foot plus rattlesnake hunt for mice. The pair of road runners we have on our property will get him in the morning. Those things love them some rattlesnack.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at July 20, 2019 11:42 PM (l7Kbv)

258 Crosses Portland, OR off places to ever visit.

To be fair to Portland, it's become the Costa Rica of city governments - no mayor ever gets reelected.

We'll see if the current mayor can manage that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 20, 2019 11:43 PM (I2/tG)

259 Greetings:

Re: Finland

SIbelius and his "Karelia Suite" and "Findlandia"

and sometimes snipers.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 20, 2019 11:44 PM (evgyj)

260 Sad today that the spirit of those times is not to be found in what passes for our culture today.

Amen to that. Not hard to be accused of being a crabby old fucker either. Times has changed.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 11:45 PM (K22Va)

261 "Drivers, start your engines" at the Iowa Speedway IndyCar race. 10:47 PM local time.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 11:48 PM (wshbh)

262 Guys I'm drunk. When I'm sober I do know the difference between Wesley Snipes and Denzel Washington.

Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2019 11:49 PM (QCc6B)

263 There are muscles which a minority of girls can control that have nothing to do with gymnastics.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Wiggle ears?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 20, 2019 11:50 PM (7Llwi)

264 Is there a city anywhere on this planet that is not run by people like that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:40 PM (aKsyK)

I would hope most cities aren't run by a gay pedophile.

As an interesting side note, autocuccumber offered no spelling help for pedophile.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 20, 2019 11:51 PM (Rz2Nc)

265 Guys I'm drunk. When I'm sober I do know the difference between -

Apparently I'm unable to tell the difference between the Tang and the Jin.

If I'm to put in a word in mine own defence: when dealing with chubby mediaeval Chinese aristocrats, it *is* hard to tell the difference between the males and the females.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 11:51 PM (ykYG2)

266 Green flag!

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 11:51 PM (wshbh)

267 Ok, lets get fucked up.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 11:54 PM (K22Va)

268 Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 11:45 PM (K22Va)

I use to be accused of being a young crabby fucker

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 20, 2019 11:54 PM (aA3+G)

269 Knitting With Heavy Metal turned out not to be what I thought it would be. I've done some very basic crochet with 30 gauge wire and beads, so I thought the participants would be attempting to actually knit with 10 or 12 gauge wire -- which I really can't see happening in the least little bit. I know what it takes for me to merely open and close 16 gauge jump rings. (I pretty much stick with 18 gauge.) I was really disappointed to discover the contestants were knitting with ordinary yarn while on stage with metal bands. I wanted to see some muscle bound individuals actually knitting with heavy gauge wire.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 20, 2019 11:55 PM (eP3XU)

270 I bought a new grill yesterday at Walmart and assembled it today.

I felt like I was living out a Bill Burr skit as I put it together, just short of stomping it to pieces in frustration.

Turned out to be a pretty fun little grill. It's a charcoal grill on one side and a propane griddle on the other. Cooked some stir fry on it and it's a pretty good little griddle.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2019 11:40 PM (48XXE)

Blackstone tailgater? I have a Blackstone griddle, I like it. Considering getting a smaller one for the lake cottage.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 20, 2019 11:56 PM (Rz2Nc)

271

You put the Tang in the gin and drink it all up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:56 PM (aKsyK)

272 Wiggle ears?


I can wiggle my ears. Independently.

I'm talking about girl muscles that I don't have.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 11:56 PM (fuK7c)

273 I can wiggle my ears. Independently.

I'm talking about girl muscles that I don't have.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 11:56 PM (fuK7c)

How are you doing?

Posted by: Elsie The Cow at July 20, 2019 11:57 PM (abNpZ)

274 I'm talking about girl muscles that I don't have.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

heh

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 20, 2019 11:57 PM (PkVlr)

275 Farmer? You asked after my mom the other night. Nice of you. She's holding steady, moving slowly but staying sharp. Having trouble with the crosswords and cryptoquotes lately - the eyes, not the wits. Still stomps most of us at Gin Rummy.

All prayers for her to have less pain, especially in the morning, welcomed. (S'pose a few of us can relate to that.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 20, 2019 11:57 PM (mZLmb)

276 I had a buddy of mine that was a skinny fucker until he moved to Alaska and now he's a husky fucker.

Posted by: Biggus Dickus at July 20, 2019 11:58 PM (9MQsq)

277 The last time a Portland city council seat was up for a vote, both of the wimyn that were running for it were Marxist slitches.

I wrote in Ned Flanders.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 20, 2019 11:58 PM (iB1oa)

278
I use to be accused of being a young crabby fucker
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


You could open up a restaurant in Bikini Bottom.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 11:59 PM (aKsyK)

279 talking about girl muscles that I don't have.

We can fix that.

Posted by: cutting-edge twenty first century #woke american medical science at July 20, 2019 11:59 PM (ykYG2)

280 I had a buddy of mine that was a skinny fucker until he moved to Alaska and now he's a husky fucker.
Posted by: Biggus Dickus at July 20, 2019 11:58 PM (9MQsq)
-----
Phrasing.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 12:00 AM (iB1oa)

281 277 The last time a Portland city council seat was up for a vote, both of the wimyn that were running for it were Marxist slitches.

I wrote in Ned Flanders.
Posted by: Captain Obvious


I'm so pissed those asshats messed up Portlandia. I used to go on girls' trips with my besties to Portland. Nice hotels, bars, restaurants, shops.....and Powell's

and the bastards fucked it up.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 21, 2019 12:00 AM (PkVlr)

282 254 -- Bitter -- You would have loved Christmas Eve in the 50s. Everything had to be assembled. The neighborhood dad's would form a group, then move from house to house, assembling all the toys. I suspect that the toys for the kids living at the last house or two were a little wobbly Christmas morning.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 21, 2019 12:02 AM (eP3XU)

283 >>>You could open up a restaurant in Bikini Bottom.


I hear help is hard to find

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2019 12:02 AM (aA3+G)

284 and the bastards fucked it up.
Posted by: nurse ratched

----

Nurse, it's what they do. Everywhere.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 21, 2019 12:02 AM (Z/1Kk)

285 heh

Posted by: nurse ratched



Oh, you know what I'm talking about. Interesting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2019 12:02 AM (fuK7c)

286 I'm so pissed those asshats messed up Portlandia. I used to go on girls' trips with my besties to Portland. Nice hotels, bars, restaurants, shops.....and Powell's

and the bastards fucked it up.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 21, 2019 12:00 AM (PkVlr)
-----
It was a whole lot better when I moved here twenty years ago. Now...the deterioration is obvious. If they screw up Barbur Blvd (the main drag near my house) by running light rail down the middle of it...well, I'd just as soon not sell the house (it's paid off), but it may come to that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 12:04 AM (iB1oa)

287 Adjoining wiring systems "talk" to each other and have to be re-routed. The rendezvous radar for LM 3 [ the one for Apollo 9] ... performed perfectly in factory tests, but once installed, set up electrical interference with other systems. A cabin-lighting control panel turned out, Kraft said, "to be a pretty good little radio receiver." It had to be removed and rebuilt while the schedule continued to slip.

pg 209 - 210. Ibid.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2019 12:04 AM (cH3lq)

288 Crabby fuckers aren't bad people. Society needs us.

Posted by: dartist at July 21, 2019 12:05 AM (K22Va)

289 Posted by: dartist at July 21, 2019 12:05 AM (K2

No shit, eh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2019 12:06 AM (aA3+G)

290 Greetings, everyone

Another "meetup" tomorrow which should be fun.

"Fun" I'm pretty sure has a definition and a standard meaning and all.

If I'm lucky, I'll ignore the alarm.

Well, that's not fair, the folks in this "meetup" are really very nice.

But I am who I am.

Damn it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 21, 2019 12:08 AM (l9m7l)

291 The last time a Portland city council seat was up for a vote, both of the wimyn that were running for it were Marxist slitches.

Two black women were in the runoff - a corrupt, left-wing, marginally competent lifer politician; and a batshit crazy radical who hates the cops and thinks that homeless drug addicts are your "neighbors", with the same rights that you have, even if you are paying north of five thousand bucks in property taxes every year.

Guess who won.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 12:11 AM (I2/tG)

292 Blackstone tailgater? I have a Blackstone griddle, I like it. Considering getting a smaller one for the lake cottage.


It's similar to the tailgater and it is a Blackstone, but it's got more sturdy legs.

I think it's just called the Griddle Charcoal Grill Combo.

It's a tidy little unit. I'll let you know after I grill on the charcoal side. It's pretty sturdy, though, as near as I can tell.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 12:11 AM (48XXE)

293 The neighborhood dad's would form a group, then move from house to house, assembling all the toys. I suspect that the toys for the kids living at the last house or two were a little wobbly Christmas morning.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 21, 2019 12:02 AM (eP3XU)


That's pretty cool.

Back when neighbors talked to each other.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 12:12 AM (48XXE)

294
I spent nearly all day fixing a mess caused by Win10's "fast startup" option, otherwise known as hybrid shutdown. It got turned on on this install without my knowledge.

If you're dual or multibooting, that will cause disk corruption if you start back up and boot into any other system than the one you shut down from.

I did that last night, booted Linux up, and then came back to this Win10, and noticed disk corruption.

Just a few files hoses, but boy did that cause a major malfunction. I thought I had it fixed earlier, but found something else and just got that fixed.

MS will just do shit like this without any regard for the consequences. Arrogance is what it is.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2019 12:13 AM (f1Vqw)

295 Now...the deterioration is obvious.

Lived in Portland for twenty years, but moved to the burbs when I bought a house.

Just two miles away from Portland, but the laws are actually enforced here - if a hobo meth RV parks in front of my house, I can call the sheriff to get the guy removed - I don't have to pretend that he is my new "neighbor", like I would in Portland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 12:15 AM (I2/tG)

296 30 minutes until I could see the space station flyover.

Posted by: Ha at July 21, 2019 12:15 AM (MAstk)

297 Okay! Thread is deader than Mr. Kurtz! Happily, I'm here to help!

1) possums!

2) Linda Ronstadt!

3) piss troughs!

I went to a Linda Ronstadt concert once, but she was passed out drunk on stage with her guitar pick lost in her guitar somewheres, so... I went to the gents to pee, but they didn't have a piss trough, so I went outside & accidentally drowned a poor ole possum!

Posted by: mnw at July 21, 2019 12:16 AM (Cssks)

298 30 minutes until I could see the space station flyover.

Kewl!

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2019 12:16 AM (LPnfS)

299

In July of 1969 a ham radio operator and amateur radio-astronomer by the name of Larry Baysinger, W4EJA, accomplished an amazing feat. He independently detected radio transmissions from the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface.

http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11

https://soundcloud.com/shannon-hall4/apollo-11-recording

These were 5 watt radio transmissions, 239,000 miles away.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 12:17 AM (aKsyK)

300 "Fun" I'm pretty sure has a definition and a standard meaning and all.

I say Nay Nay!

Posted by: John Pinette at July 21, 2019 12:17 AM (LPnfS)

301 But I am who I am.
Damn it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


You have to say it with Popeye's accent.
"I yam what I yam an' tha's all what I yam!"
Try saying it outloud, with vigor, and feel your forearms bulge.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:18 AM (mZLmb)

302 Two black women were in the runoff - a corrupt, left-wing, marginally
competent lifer politician; and a batshit crazy radical who hates the
cops and thinks that homeless drug addicts are your "neighbors", with
the same rights that you have, even if you are paying north of five
thousand bucks in property taxes every year.

Are you sure you're not talking about our lovely new Chicago mayor in Crook County, IL?

Posted by: dartist at July 21, 2019 12:19 AM (K22Va)

303 Is Geppedophilia the unnatural sexual attraction to wooden boy puppets?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 12:19 AM (48XXE)

304 It's a tidy little unit. I'll let you know after I grill on the charcoal side. It's pretty sturdy, though, as near as I can tell.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 12:11 AM (48XXE)

Yes, please let me know how you like the grill side, I like the griddle.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 21, 2019 12:20 AM (Rz2Nc)

305 Space station currently north of New Zealand and headed this way...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 12:20 AM (I2/tG)

306 >>Just two miles away from Portland


That's too close.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:22 AM (/O9R9)

307 Yes, please let me know how you like the grill side, I like the griddle.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 21, 2019 12:20 AM (Rz2Nc)


Will do.

It's kinda small.

Probably no more than 4 ribeyes will fit on it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 12:22 AM (48XXE)

308 Good evening.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 21, 2019 12:23 AM (5Ezu/)

309 Good evening, little mouse.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:24 AM (/O9R9)

310 That's too close.
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:22 AM (/O9R9)

garrett, what can you tell me about Dynakit mark III amps? I scored two of them, apparently intact, at the dump today. They have Groovetube KT88's in them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 12:24 AM (abNpZ)

311 Howdy Garrett.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 21, 2019 12:25 AM (5Ezu/)

312 That's too close.

Actually, now that I think of it, it's probably three miles from Portland.

The county line makes all the difference in the world - there is a homeless camp on a bike trail that literally ends right at the county line. South of the line, the laws are enforced - north of the line, they are not.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 12:25 AM (I2/tG)

313 Mindful I'm glad your mom is doing so well. I worry about my dad he's 83.

His latest thing is that he's going to drive from Stevens Point to Freeport to pick up the flowers on the graves and then come to visit us in Dixon while I'm laid up and buy a ton of sweet corn take to his friends in Stevens Point.

This dude is 83 and his right foot is kind of dead from nerve damage from his back and he's going to drive all this way ugh. What do you do? It is good sweet corn we just got some the other day American Midwestern ethnic food it freaking rocks! You're going upstairs do you think the air works at all or what so you have the air conditioner off and you're going to turn it on did seem to run Ajo cuz we can't use the I'm not using those assholes we had the last time they pissed me off

Posted by: Farmer posting from strip smargphone at July 21, 2019 12:26 AM (2+yJZ)

314 >>what can you tell me about Dynakit mark III amps? I scored two of them, apparently intact, at the dump today. They have Groovetube KT88's in them.


That is a pretty nice score!

https://tinyurl.com/y47wqtk3

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:26 AM (/O9R9)

315 >>The county line makes all the difference in the world - there is a homeless camp on a bike trail that literally ends right at the county line. South of the line, the laws are enforced - north of the line, they are not.


Where are the kids with Roman Candles?

In our youth, we'd have been assaulting hobo encampments with all the foreworks and pellet rifles we could round up.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:27 AM (/O9R9)

316 These were 5 watt radio transmissions, 239,000 miles away.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 12:17 AM (aKsyK)


I'd never heard that story, thanks for that one.

I keep a preset for 145.80 in the 2m scan on my radios but I've never heard the ISS

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:28 AM (t+qrx)

317 MS will just do shit like this without any regard for the consequences. Arrogance is what it is.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2019 12:13 AM



Publius!

I run this little thing on my WinX installation:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5pubzvy


I just apply the "spy rules" (to block telemetry)...

One can also apply the "update rules" to block updates, and "extra" to block all Micro$oft services, but things like imbedded Bing images in web sites will not display, etc....

Make sure to "Run as administrator"!

It uses Windows firewall... Most other fixes of this genre use host files rules or just Windows settings, which can be bypassed...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2019 12:28 AM (7WaWV)

318 Hey there, Muad'dib.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2019 12:28 AM (t+qrx)

319 Forget about the air conditioning stuff I'm trying to post through the voice on my smartphone and I was talking to my wife this is very embarrassing I think I should go to bed. Good night all.

Posted by: Farmer posting from strip smargphone at July 21, 2019 12:29 AM (2+yJZ)

320 Swine deer ate the okra now. I'm beside myself and I want Publius to kill them all. They're ruining the neighborhood.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2019 12:29 AM (NMAzL)

321 Lots of guys are really into those old Dynakit Tube amps. Pretty sure those KT88 / 6550s are gonna be worth a decent price if they are in good shape and test well.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:29 AM (/O9R9)

322 That is a pretty nice score!

https://tinyurl.com/y47wqtk3
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:26 AM (/O9R9)

Could not find the preamps that go with them. What is the appropriate preamp for those?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 12:29 AM (abNpZ)

323 Hi Maud'dib!

How's life in your neck of the woods?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 21, 2019 12:29 AM (PkVlr)

324 Will do.

It's kinda small.

Probably no more than 4 ribeyes will fit on it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 21, 2019 12:22 AM (48XXE)

That would work for us, there is only my wife and I. Unless, she's not hungry and we should just spit one,because if she's not that hungry, I must not be either, lmao. No, I'm cooking two, eat what you want and have the rest for lunch tomorrow.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 21, 2019 12:31 AM (Rz2Nc)

325 >>Could not find the preamps that go with them. What is the appropriate preamp for those?


Anything will do, really. A nice little Bogen, or Heathkit. Even an early Fisher would work well.

Anything that puts out a line level output will work, really. You could get away with just a Phono Preamp that has an active gain dial.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:31 AM (/O9R9)

326 Goodnight everyone!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at July 21, 2019 12:31 AM (Rz2Nc)

327 His latest thing is that he's going to drive from Stevens Point to
Freeport to pick up the flowers on the graves and then come to visit us
in Dixon while I'm laid up and buy a ton of sweet corn take to his
friends in Stevens Point.

Give him some credit to know when to stop driving. He doesn't want to get hurt or hurt anyone. After my dad quit driving he had to eventually quit cutting the grass with the rider. It gets sad but it helps if family can help give them pride getting older.

Posted by: dartist at July 21, 2019 12:33 AM (K22Va)

328 Two black women were in the runoff - a corrupt, left-wing, marginally competent lifer politician; and a batshit crazy radical who hates the cops and thinks that homeless drug addicts are your "neighbors", with the same rights that you have, even if you are paying north of five thousand bucks in property taxes every year.

Guess who won.
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The batshit crazy radical must have had some impressive backing - you saw her signs everywhere.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 21, 2019 12:35 AM (iB1oa)

329
Could not find the preamps that go with them. What is the appropriate preamp for those?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Pat-3 ?

Posted by: Wallace and Gromit at July 21, 2019 12:36 AM (xSo9G)

330 Farmer: I'd asked Milady to help translate. Didn't help. Nothing embarrassing except awfully funny.

BIG MOTHER IS LISTENING

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:36 AM (mZLmb)

331 So, the SS pass should be in about... 40 mins?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 12:36 AM (xSo9G)

332 My neighborhood has a central esplanade with four park benches, set at quadrants around a forty-foot circle.

Used to be a vagrant problem there.

Used. to.

Wired a direct switch from the sprinkler system to a particular neighbor that could easily qualify as "Moron". Said neighbor lives next to said esplanade, separated only by a 6 ft. board fence.

We don't mind paying to replace the occasional sprinkler head. It's worth the laughs.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2019 12:37 AM (QzJWU)

333 Anything will do, really. A nice little Bogen, or Heathkit. Even an early Fisher would work well.

Anything that puts out a line level output will work, really. You could get away with just a Phono Preamp that has an active gain dial.
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:31 AM (/O9R9)

Thanks. Job #1 is to test or replace the big filter cap, and any bypass or coupling caps that night see a high DC voltage across them. before powering it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 12:37 AM (abNpZ)

334 The batshit crazy radical must have had some impressive backing - you saw her signs everywhere.

An increasing fraction of the Portland electorate is white, anti-cop, and pro-antifa, which is why no action will be taken locally against antifa. The last two city council elections both elected poorly educated, radical, cop haters.

And now, I have a date with a space station...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 21, 2019 12:38 AM (I2/tG)

335 AOP.

What you need is:


The Pre-ample to the Consti-TUBE-tion.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2019 12:39 AM (QzJWU)

336
Thanks. Job #1 is to test or replace the big filter cap, and any bypass or coupling caps that night see a high DC voltage across them. before powering it up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-------

A Variac is a good thing to have around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 12:39 AM (xSo9G)

337
Could not find the preamps that go with them. What is the appropriate preamp for those?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Dynaco PAS-3X

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 12:41 AM (aKsyK)

338 All kinds of difference in age & competence. You know, if eyesight, faculties, reactions are still acceptable. Eighty-three is the, ummm, new seventy-five.

The 'dead' foot part bothered me most. No feedback on the pedal would be concerning to me.

But, mmm. sweetcorn. We have Oklahoma peaches. Trade?

Back to elderly drivers:

Can't remember how many years ago, Mom blew a stopsign. Got t-boned. Let's hear it for Cadillac sturdiness, she was pretty much fine. But she knew it was time to hang up her car keys. Wisdom.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:42 AM (mZLmb)

339 A Variac is a good thing to have around.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2019 12:39 AM (xSo9G)

Yep. And I have at least 3 of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 12:43 AM (abNpZ)

340 Well, I'll be sorry tomorrow but fuck it, I poured another one. You guys are fun to read.

Posted by: dartist at July 21, 2019 12:43 AM (K22Va)

341 ...Can't remember how many years ago, Mom blew a stopsign. Got t-boned. Let's hear it for Cadillac sturdiness, she was pretty much fine. But she knew it was time to hang up her car keys. Wisdom.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:42 AM (mZLmb)



The opportunities to riff on the phrasing here are epic.

But it was your Mom, so chivalry requires decorum.

But geez, I'm rolling here in mirthful laughter!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2019 12:45 AM (QzJWU)

342 341 Well, I'll be sorry tomorrow but fuck it, I poured another one. You guys are fun to read.
Posted by: dartist


I have never had that experience. Never stayed up too late, just one more as ye say, because of a rollicking good ont. Never. Ever. Including not tonight.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:46 AM (mZLmb)

343 The opportunities to riff on the phrasing here are epic.
But it was your Mom, so chivalry requires decorum.


OKaayyy, my "phrasing" detectors must be dampened.
Thanks, Gentleman Jim.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:48 AM (mZLmb)

344 I have never had that experience. Never stayed up too late, just one
more as ye say, because of a rollicking good ont. Never. Ever. Including
not tonight.

His breath smelled of whiskey and the truth was not in him.

Posted by: dartist at July 21, 2019 12:49 AM (K22Va)

345
OKaayyy, my "phrasing" detectors must be dampened.

Tie them in with the main deflector.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2019 12:50 AM (aKsyK)

346 >>Thanks. Job #1 is to test or replace the big filter cap, and any bypass or coupling caps that night see a high DC voltage across them. before powering it up.


Yeah, good idea. Then bring it up slowly on a Variac.

But those should be a nice, and very musical pair of amps.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:52 AM (/O9R9)

347 That's all, folks!

Posted by: madamemayhem


But you dropped your skier a mile back!

Posted by: Just the punchline at July 21, 2019 12:55 AM (IGYfK)

348 Invulnerable, Part I, Chapter 5

Dr. Baker:

I wish we'd had the idea to do more tests before. But we were, I was, so busy! We were about to change the world, so the how of the phenomenon took a back seat. Even for me.

Science -- it was still important, just, not as important as saving everyone. So we missed out on that opportunity for rigorous testing.

What we did observe, in neuroimaging afterward, is that we apparently all had surprisingly highly-increased activity in the amygdala, which would normally indicate active fear and anxiety. There was also an inexplicable re-arrangement of some of the most- and least-active regions of the brain (see Appendix A). No chemical changes, other than those explicable by the state of ecstatic joy, could be found.

In logic, in law, it's hard to prove a negative. Just because no one's got proof of Bigfoot, or Santa Claus, does not disprove their potential, theoretical reality.

Similarly, lack of phenomena, health for example, does not innately tell you why or how it is happening, in the way that an imbalance, the sick organ or broken bone, reveals why it interrupts order. Order is the mystery.
_______________

zzzzz

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 01:06 AM (mZLmb)

349 Well, I got my newly-purchased old Suburban off the trailer today. Before i even drove it off the trailer, I removed the "body kit", those one-piece (per side) combination running boards and fender flares made of fiberglass. I don't like the look, and part of the body behind them need repair, anyway. And the outriggers that supported the running boards were in a sad state, too. I just sat in a folding chair with a ratchet in my hand, taking out big sheet metal screws.

The truck runs, drives, and stops. When the transmission tries to shift into third gear, the engine just races. Probably the direct drive clutch is toast. Transmission oil seems clean enough. As luck would have it, this truck uses a 4L60E transmission, and my spare is a 4L80E. While it would probably bolt up, I doubt it would play nice with the ECM in the truck.

And the engine oil pressure was low, and the gauge flutters. Well, I found out why. Oil pan is way over full, and it smells like fuel. How gasoline got in there, I can only guess. It's a Vortec 350, with throttle-body injection, and there is no mechanical fuel pump to develop a leak. Ny best guess? One of the injectors leaks, or leaked, and somebody left the key on for a long time, and the electric fuel pump pumped fuel into the intake manifold, and from there it entered one cylinder, and leaked by the rings.

Job #1, then, is an oil and filter change.

And I also did some work on my Dixon mower. Last time I used it, it was rumbling like there was a bad bearing in one of the deck spindles. I lifted it up, and removed the blades, and the deck drive belt, and could find no problem with the spindles. Blades were dull, so I sharpened both sets, and hung a sharpened set on the mower. Went out and mowed the ditches, and it did just fine. Only one or two small patches of that nasty Prairie Wool grass needed a second pass. So I am happy that a sharpening job was all it needed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:06 AM (abNpZ)

350 But those should be a nice, and very musical pair of amps.
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2019 12:52 AM (/O9R9)

I about shit when I saw what people were asking for the same exact amps on eBay.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:08 AM (abNpZ)

351 It's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:17 AM (w7U7L)

352 You guys crack me up. Mindful I had no idea Oklahoma was known for peaches really? Our sweet corn here is to die for. It was better when I was growing my own and you could pick it shuck it and eat it within an hour awesome. The sugar automatically turns to starch after it's picked got to get it right away.

As for the air-conditioning comment that was for my wife as she was going to bed. We have two air conditioners one in the basement for the first floor and one in the attic for the second floor. The last assholes we had here told us the attic one was a fire hazard and we are going to die I! First time we've heard that in 30 years dumbasses. And they didn't believe me it was in the attic and it were wandering around outside.

Well to change the subject isn't Trump The Artful no inartful president we've always wanted. Time will tell but who are these rabble-rousers will beat him in the next election seriously? Slow Joe fauxcahontas are my fav Kamala. I think you need them all alive.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at July 21, 2019 01:23 AM (2+yJZ)

353 "Are we wiping out curiosity from our children? Where is the sense of adventure and exploration? Kids would rather be a You Tube star than an astronaut."

How is this even a question?

NASA has done very little in the way of manned exploration in the last 40 years. The ISS is for science experiments, the last big exploration milestone was unmanned drones outlasting their absurdly short lifespan estimate. Or some satellite flybys of distant objects.

Meanwhile the people successfully making a living posting videos and streaming are the equivalent of TV stars for a new generation, with a significant difference of having almost no barrier to entry. Kids have always dreamt of making it big in entertainment industries. There have always been far more aspiring musicians and actors than explorers.

Posted by: Sjg at July 21, 2019 01:25 AM (gDSJf)

354 Well, mostly dead.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 21, 2019 01:27 AM (w7U7L)

355 Well, getting late enough here, I should call it a night.

Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2019 01:32 AM (abNpZ)

356 The WSJ treating Pewdiepie in an awful way ... should be seen through the lens of old vs new media. The political angle is obvious, but both can be true.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 21, 2019 01:35 AM (LxTcq)

357 Dad quit driving last autumn. I suppose he just wasn't feeling well... never mentioned any close-calls and no sign of fenderbender on his car.

He gave the car to my brother this spring after moving into nursing home.

Brother lives far away, but on one of his visits he let Dad drive the car on a few short errands. Dad was elated! His autonomy was restored, if only for a little while. After a couple of trips he handed back the keys; he'd only wanted that little taste of freedom in defiance of his failing health.

Posted by: JQ at July 21, 2019 01:36 AM (gP/Z3)

358 Late to the thread, happy Sunday Horde, imagine what Nellie Ohr was doing with a ham radio if back in the sixties they were picking up Apollo 11 conversations. I've got a vision of a stop sign smoking a cigarette somewhere. Just finished The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors, what a fantastic book, thanks to Jim, who recommended it, I am going to loan it to a friend, I want it back, it's a great read and inspiring story.

Posted by: .Debby Doberman Schultz at July 21, 2019 01:48 AM (a4EWo)

359
Can't remember how many years ago, Mom blew a stopsign. Got t-boned. Let's hear it for Cadillac sturdiness, she was pretty much fine. But she knew it was time to hang up her car keys. Wisdom.
Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at July 21, 2019 12:42 AM (mZLmb)

That is why I drive the parents everywhere. They are in a retirement facility on a speed demon four lane highway. Half the time I wonder if I will make it.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 21, 2019 01:53 AM (e1mEI)

360
The WSJ treating Pewdiepie in an awful way ... should be seen through the lens of old vs new media. The political angle is obvious, but both can be true.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

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Link?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 21, 2019 01:56 AM (13CQC)

361 Good for you headless.

We noticed a decline in my in-laws driving skills when going to Phoenix and they were trying to drive in that super fast traffic on the loop around town and got lost the last two times we took a trip with them. After that we rented a car.

Seems like my dad is doing pretty good at 83 I just dread the day when he loses his driving skills. He won't be happy and it will involve a lot more driving for us. But his mom drove into her 90s and then drove into a house. Time will tell.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at July 21, 2019 02:05 AM (2+yJZ)

362 >>>233 the death Nell
Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2019 11:30 PM (QCc6B)

Dickens?

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 02:07 AM (ORD9/)

363 I just watched An Open Secret again. Horrifying.

I can only hope that the document dump on the Epstein case won't get buried by Big Media/Tech like that documentary was.

Hopefully, their Ahab-like obsession with the pitifully weak Trump connection will overcome their self-protection instincts, and they'll keep it front-and-center.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 21, 2019 02:09 AM (5aX2M)

364 As an addendum Grandma survived stop driving and lived until one month short of 104. She did pretty good never drove on the road most of her life just around the farm and then when I got married she got a driver's license and drove for about 10 years. From good sturdy German farmstock, Catherine rocked it when she had to.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at July 21, 2019 02:11 AM (2+yJZ)

365 Evenin' Horde...

My sister was going through my dad's desk (he passed away a few weeks ago) and found a little notebook with only one page written on. It was a list of all the vehicles Dad bought or owned since he came to America in '61. Dad had a somewhat quirky taste in vehicles, which I was well aware of but didn't fully appreciate until I saw them all listed on one piece of paper. So here they are, in more or less chronological order (of ownership, not model year):

- '54 Studebaker Commander V8
- '56 Chevy Nomad wagon
- '69 VW Bus
- '68 NSU moto scooter
- '64 Ford Fairlane 500
- '69 Austin America (with day-glo orange plastic Donald Duck hood ornament)
- '72 Ford Gran Torino wagon (car I learned to drive in)
- '68 16' Fiber-Flite runabout w/40hp Evinrude outboard
- '75 Buick Skyhawk V6
- '70 Opel GT
- '68 Honda AN600 Sedan (this was my first car, which be bought for me)
- '78 Moto Guzzi 750 motorcycle
- '80 Mazda RX7 (My brother totaled this one)
- '81 Buick Regal
- '84 Mazda RX7 (My mom totaled this one. Poor Dad, he loved his RX7s)
- ? American Clipper 21' motor home
- '78 Ford F150 4x4
- '90 Lincoln Continental
- '95 Ford Thunderbird V8
- '96 Ford Taurus V6
- '69 Opel GT
- '94 Ford Explorer

Interestingly, I remember all of these. My recollection of the Studebaker must have been from when I was 3 or 4.

Posted by: Average Guy at July 21, 2019 02:21 AM (BaHwF)

366 Dang, killed it dead. Sorry about that!

Posted by: Average Guy at July 21, 2019 02:47 AM (BaHwF)

367 /pokes the ONT with a stick

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 21, 2019 02:49 AM (jp0Bv)

368 367 Dang, killed it dead. Sorry about that!
Posted by: Average Guy at July 21, 2019 02:47 AM (BaHwF)

Nah, probably just the car guys aren't around.

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 02:49 AM (ORD9/)

369 My name is Igotnothing, but you can call me Ken.

Posted by: Igotnothing at July 21, 2019 02:53 AM (xf2hT)

370 A contractor on the Apollo program needed a project management software. They wrote their own, and named it Artemis - the sister of Apollo. When I worked at that contractor some 30 years later, they were still using that software.

Posted by: Igotnothing at July 21, 2019 02:58 AM (xf2hT)

371 Was the software that good, or the connection to the moon landing that valuable or just an unwillingness to spend on IT?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 21, 2019 03:05 AM (jp0Bv)

372 64 Ford Fairlane 500

I learned to drive on a '63 Ford Fairlane (yeah, it was a land yacht)-- but I'm still only a little past 29, swearsies.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 21, 2019 03:06 AM (pPNCa)

373 Back when neighbors talked to each other.

When I was a kid, all the dads on the block (and a couple of the moms) got together after a heavy snowfall and shoveled out the alley behind the houses on the block so that people could get their cars out. (The city plowed the street in front but parking there was verboten during snowstorms.)

Yeah, the neighbors were a pretty congenial group. My dad used to enjoy sitting out on the back steps with Mac (the guy directly next door) on a summer evening, drinking a couple beers and griping about the Phillies. I don't recall anybody following football back then; the dads and most of the moms were all baseball fans.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 21, 2019 03:16 AM (pPNCa)

374 my ancient PC shit itself today...

back tomorrow, i hope

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2019 03:21 AM (8xaIy)

375 Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2019 03:21 AM (8xaIy)

Been thinking of you-- how's your family situation? Prayers up too.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 21, 2019 03:53 AM (pPNCa)

376 365 It was a list of all the vehicles Dad bought or owned since he came to America in '61. . . . So here they are, in more or less chronological order (of ownership, not model year):

- '54 Studebaker Commander V8
- '56 Chevy Nomad wagon

Posted by: Average Guy at July 21, 2019 02:21 AM (BaHwF)

Couple of cars in the 50s; did he get here in '51?

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 04:27 AM (ORD9/)

377 No, '61. Was dirt poor when he arrived with my mom and my two oldest siblings. Bought used, of course. I think the first new car he bought was the '80 RX7.

Posted by: Average Guy at July 21, 2019 04:34 AM (BaHwF)

378
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 21, 2019 05:07 AM (KCxzN)

379
A contractor on the Apollo program needed a project management software. They wrote their own, and named it Artemis - the sister of Apollo. When I worked at that contractor some 30 years later, they were still using that software.

Posted by: Igotnothing at July 21, 2019 02:58 AM

371 Was the software that good, or the connection to the moon landing that valuable or just an unwillingness to spend on IT?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 21, 2019 03:05 AM


the Apollo program was the first real use of program / project management theory & methodology

there probably was not any PM software available at the time

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 21, 2019 05:11 AM (KCxzN)

380 377 No, '61. Was dirt poor when he arrived with my mom and my two oldest siblings. Bought used, of course. I think the first new car he bought was the '80 RX7.
Posted by: Average Guy at July 21, 2019 04:34 AM (BaHwF)

Fun list for you all to find. Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 05:13 AM (ORD9/)

381 Morning..

*Looks around, starts to rearrange place cards.*

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 05:28 AM (vd8XM)

382 After Dad passed last fall, I found a list of the Countries dad had been to. I had no idea he went to so many places while in the Navy.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 05:29 AM (BLFnH)

383 Live From the Apollo 11 (humor)

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/live-from-the-apollo-11

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 05:30 AM (ORD9/)

384 Live From the Apollo 11 (humor)

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/live-from-the-apollo-11
Posted by: m

HA!! Thanks for the laugh this morning

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 05:37 AM (vd8XM)

385 I get to replace all the innards of the toilet in the guest bathroom today. Not going to be a fun task.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 05:40 AM (BLFnH)

386 I get to replace all the innards of the toilet in the guest bathroom today. Not going to be a fun task.
Posted by: Infidel

Make sure the toilet signs a DNR

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 05:41 AM (vd8XM)

387 The author of the Apollo essay (published in 2009) was an amazing person:

http://100leaders.org.au/themes/reclaiming-identity/jim-stallard/

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 05:46 AM (ORD9/)

388 387 The author of the Apollo essay (published in 2009) was an amazing person:

http://100leaders.org.au/themes/reclaiming-identity/jim-stallard/
Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 05:46 AM (ORD9/)

Hmm. I wonder if that's another person by the same name. Sorry!

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 05:47 AM (ORD9/)

389 lol. I have to remove the tank and replace the drain thingy. the part that is leaking is 44 years old.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 05:48 AM (BLFnH)

390 The Jim Stallard who wrote that Apollo 11 essay:

https://twitter.com/jimstallard?lang=en

Posted by: m at July 21, 2019 05:49 AM (ORD9/)

391 I have to remove the tank and replace the drain thingy. the part that is leaking is 44 years old.
Posted by: Infidel

I had to do that on one of mine. The hardest thing was finding the replacement part
And getting all the water out of the tank

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:00 AM (vd8XM)

392 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:05 AM (q1BC2)

393 Tuned in The Open right now. Part of the intro to the show, the announcer is going on about how tough it is.

"It's man against self,
And man against nature."

It's a golf game buddy. The ain't landing on the moon.

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:05 AM (vd8XM)

394 And a greeting from Salty, who is off the grid and on vacation.

Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:08 AM (q1BC2)

395 Logging in, need coffee

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 06:09 AM (BbGew)

396 Playing golf through a T-storm is against nature

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 06:12 AM (BbGew)

397 Logging in, need coffee
Posted by: Skip

I left a quarter cup in the bottom of the pot for you. And left the heat on too.

...That one A-hole in every office...

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:13 AM (vd8XM)

398 Wow, physically, Biden looks horrible.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:13 AM (BLFnH)

399 And while smiling, being happy, and striking fear, remember head on a swivel and a Mattis plan.

G'mornin' everyone !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 21, 2019 06:14 AM (pbg54)

400 I left a quarter cup in the bottom of the pot for you. And left the heat on too.

...That one A-hole in every office...
Posted by: Bruce

Gah, my office is closest to the kitchen. Some afternoons I have to go turn the pots off cause someone let it sit and start to burn.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:15 AM (BLFnH)

401 "398 Wow, physically, Biden looks horrible."


That's his soul shining through its fleshly envelope.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 21, 2019 06:16 AM (pbg54)

402 I left a quarter cup in the bottom of the pot for you. And left the heat on too.

...That one A-hole in every office...
Posted by: Bruce

Gah, my office is closest to the kitchen. Some afternoons I have to go turn the pots off cause someone let it sit and start to burn.
Posted by: Infidel

I'm gonna break on of the donuts in that box of a dozen in half too, probably with my filthy fingers.
I'm on a diet.

...Some other A-hole...

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:17 AM (vd8XM)

403 Really? 122 in B'more?

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:17 AM (BLFnH)

404 And remember, the Christmas gift giving season will soon be upon us.


Just imagine the look, when some loved one realizes that you care enough to give the best.

https://republicanlegion.com/product/the-border-patrol-kit/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:18 AM (q1BC2)

405 That's his soul shining through its fleshly envelope.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Makes total sense.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:19 AM (BLFnH)

406 Really? 122 in B'more?
Posted by: Infidel

I noticed the screeching weather talkers on TV are using the heat index to announce

"The Hottest Day Ever On the Planet"

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:19 AM (vd8XM)

407 "Really? 122 in B'more?"

We are over in Rehoboth right now, but my MiL said that heat index was up around 110-112.

Didn't see anything about 122.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:20 AM (q1BC2)

408 Only 236 comments of sleep last night, not enough.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 06:23 AM (BbGew)

409 Ha, Christmas in July. The kids want luggage for Christmas. I put it on my calendar to look in Oct. Saw a F&F mega deal one morning in March. $600 set for $135. Nice 3 piece hard side.
Gave it to kidlet today. They are leaving Fri. for WV for a week.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:24 AM (BLFnH)

410 398 Wow, physically, Biden looks horrible.
Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:13 AM (BLFnH)

wear and tear of being wrong on every economics and foreign policy for last 40 years.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 21, 2019 06:27 AM (JFO2v)

411 'Wow, physically, Biden looks horrible. '

Truth be told, there are no long term medical studies on the long term effects of eating paste on the human body.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:30 AM (q1BC2)

412 Was 97 in Philadelphia yesterday, said heat index was 107 whatever that is.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 06:30 AM (BbGew)

413 As I recall, heat index was made up a bit earlier than the naming of winter storms as part of the same FUD campaign.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 21, 2019 06:32 AM (pbg54)

414 said heat index was 107 whatever that is.
Posted by: Skip

The summer wind chill factor.
Maybe the higher it is, you need to take off more clothes?

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:32 AM (vd8XM)

415 Ah, so they are using "heat index" for temps now. What a farce. It's always hot in July and Aug. It's cold in January and February.

This is why I like animals more than most people.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:35 AM (BLFnH)

416 Ah, so they are using "heat index" for temps now. What a farce. It's always hot in July and Aug. It's cold in January and February.

This is why I like animals more than most people.
Posted by: Infidel

And since numbers is infanite, we can make up anything we want. The higher, the better.

...GW...

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:40 AM (vd8XM)

417 I guess ATT Uverse are fighting CBS on pricing, so they blacked out (actually blue) CBS local channel.
Which is okay by me since I rarely watch it.
My wife will not be happy that she can't watch her stories tomorrow though

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:43 AM (vd8XM)

418 Truth be told. Most astronauts since Challenger are pretty anonymous. Not the fame that it used to bring.

Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 06:44 AM (I5SAg)

419 https://6abc.com/weather/
Sunday - Heat index 108 - 113

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 06:44 AM (BbGew)

420 Bruce, they all want control of us. I refuse to participate.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:44 AM (BLFnH)

421 We here is SC are amused. You see, it's about a hot as it normally is this time of year. All those Yankees are freaking out over what we think of as normal.

Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 06:46 AM (I5SAg)

422 Bruce, they all want control of us. I refuse to participate.
Posted by: Infidel

The other day we lost wifi, tv and phone.
We survived though.
Wife was not happy.


Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:48 AM (vd8XM)

423 Yankees are freaking out over what we think of as normal."

We are NOT freaking out.

We are......concerned.

Or something like that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:50 AM (q1BC2)

424 We here is SC are amused. You see, it's about a hot as it normally is this time of year. All those Yankees are freaking out over what we think of as normal.

Posted by: JAS

For some reason people think that they should always be able to do their "normal" activities. No matter the weather.
I wanna golf today!!
Idiot, it's 100 degrees out.
Whhaaaaaa

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:51 AM (vd8XM)

425 The other day we lost wifi, tv and phone.
We survived though.
Wife was not happy.


Since I'm a Little House on the Prairie fan, this does not bother me.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:52 AM (BLFnH)

426 Since I'm a Little House on the Prairie fan, this does not bother me.
Posted by: Infidel

We survived, barely.
We did luck out, we had just picked up "They shall not grow old" dvd from the library the day before.
Very good movie

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 06:53 AM (vd8XM)

427 Im in the mood for waffles. Who's cookin?

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 06:55 AM (BLFnH)

428 I played Rams Hill in Borrego Springs one time in July. There is water and ice near the tee box of every hole. LOL. It's a dry heat. Bring plenty of gatorade.

Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 06:56 AM (I5SAg)

429 Offered without comment.

https://cbsloc.al/2xY9kMj

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:57 AM (q1BC2)

430 Mornin' all.

I've switched to taking a sip of coffee for every f-bomb in the Deadwood movie.

*spasm*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 07:00 AM (kQs4Y)

431 Maybe because of heat the milk went bad fast, was thinking french toast but a cheese omelette maybe.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:01 AM (BbGew)

432 429

Murphy was selected by Police Commissioner Michael Harrison back in March to oversee Consent Decree compliance.

I guess he consented to be robbed??

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 21, 2019 07:01 AM (JFO2v)

433 VIA, geez. And they wonder why the disparity in incarceration.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 07:02 AM (BLFnH)

434 Offered without comment.

https://cbsloc.al/2xY9kMj
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Two African-American males exited the vehicle, brandished a gun, and demanded their property. A purse, wallet, cash and cell phones were taken.

Without actually arresting them, how do they know they are African American?
Shouldn't they just say black? Or POC?

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 07:04 AM (vd8XM)

435 The weather app on my phone, Dark Sky, doesn't show heat index

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 07:07 AM (dm05u)

436 walked the dog
making covfefe and bacon
it's muggy

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 07:08 AM (dm05u)

437 Bruce....

How do they know they identify as male, as well?

Whole lot of presuming going on in that reporting.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 07:09 AM (q1BC2)

438 Bruce....

How do they know they identify as male, as well?

Whole lot of presuming going on in that reporting.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

HA!!

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 07:09 AM (vd8XM)

439 Foxes with Legs just played clip of every Democratic candidate except Creepy uncle Joe saying Medicare for everyone.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:10 AM (BbGew)

440 why does hot weather make me wanna kill someone?
is this how human sacrifices for better weather got started?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 07:10 AM (dm05u)

441 The New Blue Enhanced Fujita Scale Heat Misery Index will include the psychological impact of being constantly reminded that it is hot in the summer. Most importantly that it is your fault.
It's going to be .97 times ten to the second today, The NBEFSHMI will be .97 times 10 to the third.

Posted by: klaftern at July 21, 2019 07:11 AM (RuIsu)

442 Hi ho Yankees, 73 F here in Palm Beach County. I see it's in the 80's everywhere. Well, don't think about Florida because it's sooooo hot in July.

Posted by: dr kill at July 21, 2019 07:11 AM (Jj+59)

443 Still dark here. Time to turn on the vent.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 07:12 AM (BLFnH)

444 why does hot weather make me wanna kill someone?

Sweaty undies will do that to a person

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 07:12 AM (vd8XM)

445 Well, don't think about Florida because it's sooooo hot in July.

You're welcome to keep Florida People to yourself.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 21, 2019 07:13 AM (pPNCa)

446 "Are we wiping out curiosity from our children?"

A feature not a bug of the educational system. What good are curious children? They might ask questions about our almighty State and their proper subservient role to it. Curiosity is part and parcel of autonomous critical thinking -- can't have that.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 07:13 AM (H8QX8)

447 Wow, Rush's Betsy Ross tshirts made 1.5M for tunnels to towers so far.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 07:14 AM (BLFnH)

448 Florida Man is part of the Charm. You should see the critters in the Keys.

Posted by: dr kill at July 21, 2019 07:14 AM (Jj+59)

449 Truth be told. Most astronauts since Challenger are pretty anonymous. Not the fame that it used to bring.


Posted by: JAS at July 21, 2019 06:44 AM (I5SAg)

Same with Generals. The Civil War and WW2 were the wars that people associated with Generals for some reason. You had Shwarzkopf in Desert Storm but that is about it.

I just Duck Ducke'd "shwarzkopf" and most of the results were about hair color. Sigh.

Posted by: Quint at July 21, 2019 07:16 AM (n13/j)

450 "Are we wiping out curiosity from our children?"



A feature not a bug of the educational system. What good are curious
children? They might ask questions about our almighty State and their
proper subservient role to it. Curiosity is part and parcel of
autonomous critical thinking -- can't have that.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 07:13 AM (H8QX

Do helicopter parents even allow them to be curios? When your parents shuttle you in cars to and from school, and don't let you explore anything, what are you supposed to think? I would think they think of themselves as extremely fragile.

I have a relative who proudly bought his kid one of those virtual reality head sets. I said "how cool", but what I meant was, "how 'bout taking the kid camping, aka, actual reality?"

Posted by: Quint at July 21, 2019 07:21 AM (n13/j)

451 Weather weirdness yesterday. It dropped from 98 degrees to 71 in a space of about 3 seconds. Heard it happened at Wrigley too and the fans gave a standing ovation. Craziest thing I ever saw. We're sweating. BOOM. We're grabbing a sweatshirt.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2019 07:21 AM (lwiT4)

452 429 Offered without comment.

https://cbsloc.al/2xY9kMj
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 06:57 AM (q1BC2)

That's pretty good. The only one I've seen that compares was about five years ago when some dumb bastard hit the night drop of a local pizzeria on a Saturday night. I presume he was unaware that said pizzeria is the legitimate front of the head of the local mafia family.

He robbed the night manager at gunpoint, only to be chased down by two "individuals". Shots were fired, neighbors called the cops, who took the guy into custody and probably saved him.

I never did hear what ever happened to him after he made it to the county jail.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 21, 2019 07:21 AM (jp0Bv)

453 You should see the critters in the Keys.

I'm a fan of Hemingway's polydactyl cats.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 21, 2019 07:24 AM (pPNCa)

454 Morning all

At an IHOP in Maryland or DELAWARE.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2019 07:24 AM (bXf82)

455 At an IHOP in Maryland or DELAWARE."

Easy to tell where.


Tax = Maryland

No tax = Delaware.


wave when you go past Rehoboth.

We should be passing each other.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 07:26 AM (q1BC2)

456 Just went out to garden, picked 4 cucumbers could have picked a dozen. Still not 1 ripe tomato yet, there is one almost red but that's it, lots of green tomatoes and peppers.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:26 AM (BbGew)

457 Hi Larry and Larettes you comfortable!

Posted by: saf at July 21, 2019 07:28 AM (5IHGB)

458 Just went out to garden, picked 4 cucumbers could have picked a dozen. Still not 1 ripe tomato yet, there is one almost red but that's it, lots of green tomatoes and peppers.
Posted by: Skip

Mmmm. Time to make cucumber, onion, vinegar salad.

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 07:29 AM (vd8XM)

459 Can't tell you how many time mom told us GO OUTSIDE. We always had so much fun.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 07:30 AM (BLFnH)

460 Depends on how you got there to tell if your in Maryland or Delaware.
Speed for one, the faster you go the less chance of stopping in Delaware, two - If you paid to get there your in Delaware.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:31 AM (BbGew)

461 I reluctantly clicked on that CBD sidebar but oh what joys awaited me! What started as a slow churn of plus-size LGBQetc transwomyn pride turned into a frothy frappe of trans v. lesbians v. pedos v. POC v. immigrants.

And then this response:

"I’ll never forget that day, that essential right of passage into womanhood when I first donned a tiara and dressed up like the mutant triplet of Pat Butcher and Danny Devito. Twas then my very atoms became female."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 07:32 AM (kQs4Y)

462 Mmmm. Time to make cucumber, onion, vinegar salad.


Umm, no, cucumber, onion and sour creme. Add s and p, worchtershire and garlic.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 07:33 AM (BLFnH)

463 when I first donned a tiara and dressed up like the mutant triplet of Pat Butcher and Danny Devito. Twas then my very atoms became female



Well......alrighty then...

Posted by: VIA, A Person of Penis (POP) at July 21, 2019 07:35 AM (q1BC2)

464 Twas then my very atoms became female."
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

I had to read that twice to make sure you weren't talking about you.

Whew !

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2019 07:37 AM (arJlL)

465 So are we coughing up the bail for Krak or going to let the lawyer get him out?

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:37 AM (BbGew)

466 So are we coughing up the bail for Krak or going to let the lawyer get him out?
Posted by: Skip

Ya think he accidentally shot a guy with 2 black eyes ?

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2019 07:38 AM (arJlL)

467 I had to read that twice to make sure you weren't talking about you.
---
I possess neither a tiara nor a penis.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 07:39 AM (kQs4Y)

468 So are we coughing up the bail for Krak or going to let the lawyer get him out?
Posted by: Skip

If we were real friends, we'd be in the same cell saying
"Man, that was fun!"

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 07:40 AM (vd8XM)

469 Okay, off to start the day

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2019 07:42 AM (vd8XM)

470 babalublog.com/gasoline shortage in cuba reaches crisis point
https://tinyurl.com/y5aerabc

Socialism is way to much fun, think of the shrinking carbon footprint.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:42 AM (BbGew)

471 I possess neither a tiara nor a penis.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

Good.

Although, I bet you'd look great in a tiara.

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2019 07:42 AM (arJlL)

472 Ya think he accidentally shot a guy with 2 black eyes ?
Posted by: JT at July 21, 2019 07:38 AM (arJlL)

*wipes coffee off tablet*

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 07:44 AM (dm05u)

473 Heard it happened at Wrigley too and the fans gave a standing ovation. Craziest thing I ever saw.

Grammie, wasn't there a game at Wrigley (Cubs/'Stros) about 10 years back when lightning hit the flag pole in center field?

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 21, 2019 07:46 AM (pPNCa)

474 I possess neither a tiara nor a penis.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,


---------

Hah. Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall could lend you both.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 07:49 AM (v4v6L)

475 Good morning. It looks like India will try their moon launch early Monday morning. Last Sunday's attempt was scrubbed due to a fuel leak, and it was thought that the rocket would have to be taken back to the assembly building. Apparently it turned out to be simpler than they thought.

Liftoff is scheduled for 5:13 am EDT on Monday. I don't know if I can get up for that.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 07:51 AM (sdi6R)

476 rickl- I could give you a wake up call

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 07:55 AM (BbGew)

477 Good morning. It looks like India will try their moon launch early Monday morning. Last Sunday's attempt was scrubbed due to a fuel leak, and it was thought that the rocket would have to be taken back to the assembly building.

---------

Then the first off-planet convenience store is still a go?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 07:55 AM (v4v6L)

478 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2019 07:56 AM (cknjq)

479 Morning horde.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 21, 2019 07:56 AM (MySI0)

480 Then the first off-planet convenience store is still a go?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2019 07:55 AM (v4v6L)
if there's a decent coffee shop there then there'll finally be a reason for regular folk to go to the moon

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 07:57 AM (dm05u)

481 480
if there's a decent coffee shop there then there'll finally be a reason for regular folk to go to the moon

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 07:57 AM (dm05u)


There you go!

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 07:59 AM (sdi6R)

482 Schumer: "This is not acceptable. A child telling us he's not able to even brush his teeth in a facility on our southern border."

How many times did they brush their teeth before they got to the border? Were they walking across the desert brushing their teeth? Did they ever brush their teeth in their home country? Do they even know how to brush their teeth? How does Chuck know that the child is a he? Does he have a list of the child's preferred pronouns?

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2019 08:00 AM (UdKB7)

483 These are Sunday morning questions that no one really cares about.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2019 08:01 AM (UdKB7)

484 Trump calling for Democrats to change border laws, that is a non starter if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 08:03 AM (BbGew)

485 Cloudy and humid here in the northern Adirondacks. We're going down to the farmers market in the valley.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 21, 2019 08:03 AM (lLJfM)

486 "Man that was fun"


Been there, done that and it was so fun!

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 08:05 AM (BLFnH)

487 How many times did they brush their teeth before they got to the border? Were they walking across the desert brushing their teeth? Did they ever brush their teeth in their home country? Do they even know how to brush their teeth?

Understand this though - YOU will be paying for all of their dental care from now on.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:06 AM (lD3vL)

488 45 degrees in the Bitteroot Valley of MT. Loving it.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 21, 2019 08:07 AM (MySI0)

489 486 "Man that was fun"


Been there, done that and it was so fun!
Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 08:05 AM (BLFnH)

Not me. I was way too boring and repressed for that. What a waste of youth. Sad!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2019 08:07 AM (NWiLs)

490 Trump calling for Democrats to change border laws, that is a non starter if I ever saw one.

Democrats: We'll change the laws - by abolishing them.

(of course they will know with precision exactly where the national forests boundaries are so that you can be penalized if you trespass with your snow mobile during the winter snowfall.)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:09 AM (lD3vL)

491
The ONT became the EMT so slowly,


we never even realized it happened.




And now we're trapped!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 08:09 AM (2EMYr)

492 What's all this fuss about putting an American fag on the moon? Don't these people ever shut up?

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2019 08:10 AM (UdKB7)

493 Does anybody else think Buzz Aldrin and Don Cherry could be brothers? They both have the same carefree fashion sense.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 08:12 AM (kQs4Y)

494 "Man that was fun"

Maybe that is where krak is.

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 08:13 AM (BLFnH)

495 Morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 21, 2019 08:13 AM (cJBin)

496 Time to hit the road.


Next stop....


NAS Oceana.


Later

*Static*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 08:14 AM (q1BC2)

497 Morning, y'all!

Need coffeve...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:15 AM (6qErC)

498 The coons have taken their revenge upon krakatoa.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2019 08:16 AM (EZebt)

499 484
Trump calling for Democrats to change border laws, that is a non starter if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 08:03 AM (BbGew)

---
No, it's another piece of string for them to play with.

Trump wants to remind people that Congress can fix everything but refuse to do it.

Right now the Dems are going to the border, saying it's awful and then...refusing to fix it.

He's building the case that the House Dems are worse than useless. We know that, but the people in those swing districts may not. They're getting a lesson, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 08:16 AM (HIUfw)

500 (of course they will know with precision exactly
where the national forests boundaries are so that you can be penalized
if you trespass with your snow mobile during the winter snowfall.)



Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:09 AM (lD3vL)

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Set one toe onto their property line and they'll call the SWAT team.

But feel free to defecate in the town square and shoot up drugs outside a school.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 08:18 AM (HIUfw)

501 Schumer: "This is not acceptable. A child telling us he's not able to even brush his teeth in a facility on our southern border."
How many times did they brush their teeth before they got to the border? Were they walking across the desert brushing their teeth? Did they ever brush their teeth in their home country? Do they even know how to brush their teeth? How does Chuck know that the child is a he? Does he have a list of the child's preferred pronouns?
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2019 08:00 AM (UdKB7)

Somebody needs to tell Chuck U Schumer to go brush his teeth.

Whew!

More coffee......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 08:19 AM (Z+IKu)

502 Book thread will save us

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 08:20 AM (BbGew)

503 We know that, but the people in those swing districts may not. They're getting a lesson, though.

You do know why we call the majority of adults "Low Information Voters", right?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:20 AM (lD3vL)

504 Schumer: "This is not acceptable. A child telling us he's not able to even brush his teeth in a facility on our southern border."

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2019 08:00 AM (UdKB7)


Heh... Schemer is lying. It takes almost no water to brush your teeth in field conditions: wet the brush and paste, brush, fill your mouth with water, swish, spit, rinse, done.

More likely, he asked some urchin if he brushed his teeth and got the reply, "WTF is a tooth brush?"

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 21, 2019 08:21 AM (5Yee7)

505 Does anybody else think Buzz Aldrin and Don Cherry could be brothers? They both have the same carefree fashion sense.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
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I'll go you one better and say they're the same person. And that's my conspiracy theory of the day.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:21 AM (ta49A)

506 if the ONT is still the top thread then it's still night time.
Ignore the giant ball of fire in the sky.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 21, 2019 08:21 AM (dm05u)

507 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 21, 2019 08:16 AM (HIUfw)

Plus, a bonus-

If the Dims actually do take the bait and produce something acceptable to the Maoist Progtards taking over their party.

It's just going to look like anti-American, anti-common sense insanity to most people,

even those who lean center left.


If the Dims write responsible legislation,

they get open and loudly vocal civil war within the party and disgust from the MSM.

It's a trap!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 08:21 AM (2EMYr)

508 63 degrees here in WI, the heat broke overnight. Yay !


"484 Trump calling for Democrats to change border laws, that is a non starter if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 08:03 AM (BbGew) "

He's just making sure that that albatross is firmly in place around their necks. Being the adult in the room.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 21, 2019 08:23 AM (pbg54)

509 It's not morning yet? I'm confused. Should I go back to tequila or keep drinking coffee?

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 21, 2019 08:23 AM (dUJdY)

510 More likely, he asked some urchin if he brushed his teeth and got the reply, "WTF is a tooth brush?"

Schumer scares children. Reminds them of the creepy perverts that escorted them up to the border.

If one of his confederates asked any of the kids that question, it was part of the screening process for routing and recruitment to Comet Pizza.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:24 AM (lD3vL)

511 498 The coons have taken their revenge upon krakatoa.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2019 08:16 AM (EZebt)
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Those clever little hands -- could they handle a mini-Ruger? Or a tiny garrote?

*looks over shoulder nervously*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 08:24 AM (kQs4Y)

512 It's not morning yet? I'm confused. Should I go back to tequila or keep drinking coffee?
Posted by: Jewells45

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Embrace the power of 'and'.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 21, 2019 08:26 AM (Z/1Kk)

513 509 It's not morning yet? I'm confused. Should I go back to tequila or keep drinking coffee?
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 21, 2019 08:23 AM (dUJdY)
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Both -- it's called the MoMee-mosa!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 08:26 AM (kQs4Y)

514 "513 509 It's not morning yet? I'm confused. Should I go back to tequila or keep drinking coffee?
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 21, 2019 08:23 AM (dUJdY)
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Both -- it's called the MoMee-mosa!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 08:26 AM (kQs4Y) "



Hold that thought, Eris, you may have just created the newest Moron Horde meme !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 21, 2019 08:28 AM (pbg54)

515 He's just making sure that that albatross is firmly in place around their necks. Being the adult in the room.

I'm wondering how Yahoo/MSM news and the other propaganda sites will headline the request.

"Democrats to Counter Trump's War Against the Poor"

"Democrats Defend The Constitution: Bring Us Your Poor, Tired Huddled Masses" (yes I know that is from the Emma Lazarus poem)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:28 AM (lD3vL)

516 MoMee-mosa

And, this how a moron meme is born.

*high five*

Posted by: Infidel at July 21, 2019 08:29 AM (BLFnH)

517 It's just going to look like anti-American, anti-common sense insanity to most people,

even those who lean center left.


Which means it will like pass the Senate too.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:29 AM (lD3vL)

518 More apropos to last night's movie thread-

On shiny new blu-ray-

the original "Jonny Quest" adventures.

Fun for kids of all ages. Though also probably easy to find online.

And-

a new 4K scan of "Alphaville",

an excellent "futuristic" rather dark film noir from Frog director, Jean-Luc Godard from back when he actually knew how to make a movie and not just a cinematic pile of Progtard maoist garbage.


Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 08:32 AM (2EMYr)

519 Mornin'...

@realDonaldTrump

I will help Angel Mom (and great woman) Mary Ann Mendoza with Twitter. I know Mary Ann from the beginning, and she should never be silenced. She is a winner who has lost so much, her child. Twitter, if you're watching, please do what you have to do, NOW!

(Twitter banned her for posting immigration stats)

Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:32 AM (cF8AT)

520 He's building the case that the House Dems are worse than useless.

Yep, then the scribblers from The CuckShead, will follow Max Boot's lead and accuse Trump of "Turning the Nation Against its Sacred Institutions".

branding him a traitor or something.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:33 AM (lD3vL)

521 I'd be shocked if a majority of these immigrants know what a toothbrush is much less use one on a sporadic basis. Have you ever been to Mexico, Central America, or South America? Not a lot of toothbrushes being used outside of the wealthier city dwellers.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:34 AM (UUBmN)

522 ahhhh... it's a "blonde" joke!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2019 08:34 AM (Pg+x7)

523 What time is it in military terms? Would you say 3235?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:35 AM (ta49A)

524 I will help Angel Mom (and great woman) Mary Ann Mendoza with Twitter.

Which means that Twitter will now go doxx the Angel Mom, just because Trump is asking.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:35 AM (lD3vL)

525 @realDonaldTrump

Just had a very good call with @SwedishPM Stefan Lfven who assured me that American citizen A$AP Rocky will be treated fairly. Likewise, I assured him that A$AP was not a flight risk and offered to personally vouch for his bail, or an alternative....

....Our teams will be talking further, and we agreed to speak again in the next 48 hours!

Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:35 AM (cF8AT)

526 What time is it in military terms? Would you say 3235?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:35 AM (ta49A)


*...multiply by....then add 48....divide by zero..*


Yes!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 08:36 AM (2EMYr)

527 Almost time for the books...

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:37 AM (UUBmN)

528 MoMemosa.. I love it. Just tell me it's not made with tequila and coffee though... blech! We different ingredients.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 21, 2019 08:37 AM (dUJdY)

529 More likely, he asked some urchin if he brushed his teeth and got the reply, "WTF is a tooth brush?"

Chuckles don't know spanglish. An aide said "this kid can't brush his teeth", and he ran with that.

Not knowing that the kid had run out of crest...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:37 AM (6qErC)

530 Not knowing that the kid had run out of crest . . .

Posted by: Anon a mouse
________

He's just taking Aim at the president . . .

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:38 AM (ta49A)

531 Have you ever been to Mexico, Central America, or South America? Not a lot of toothbrushes being used outside of the wealthier city dwellers.

Exactly when would a traveler be aware of some native's personal dental hygiene?

Occasionally someone will brush their teeth at an office building after lunch, but from that does one extrapolate that to the entire population?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:38 AM (lD3vL)

532 The results reveal that, at least for Western countries, kids today are more interested in YouTube than spaceflight.


Another good reason to break up Googol.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 08:39 AM (oVJmc)

533 I'm pondering who to get that Border Patrol kit for...

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:39 AM (UUBmN)

534 . . . hoping to get a Close-Up on the evening news . . .

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:39 AM (ta49A)

535 Our teams will be talking further, and we agreed to speak again in the next 48 hours!

I'm sure the Hawaiian judge is ready to step in and throw impediments into this process.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:41 AM (lD3vL)

536 . . . you can see the Gleem in Schumer's eyes when he trash-talks Trump . . .

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:42 AM (ta49A)

537 ITS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO POST BAIL FOR SOMEONE!!!!

---Hawaiian in black

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:42 AM (UUBmN)

538 Sounds like little Pablo needs to go the fuck back to Guatemala, the dental care paradise.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2019 08:43 AM (oVJmc)

539 These puns are gumming up the AM thread...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:43 AM (6qErC)

540 . . . Schumer thinks he's Ultra Brite but he's not . . .

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:44 AM (ta49A)

541 What time is it in military terms? Would you say 3235?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 08:35 AM


If powdered eggs are still alive.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2019 08:44 AM (0wxLi)

542 These puns are gumming up the AM thread...
Posted by: Anon a mouse
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Don't worry, it will all be brushed away soon.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:45 AM (UUBmN)

543 Ya know what...I don't think there are any cobs around....what trouble can we get into?

Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:45 AM (cF8AT)

544 The results reveal that, at least for Western countries, kids today are more interested in YouTube than spaceflight.

And why not?

Considering the propaganda of the Cold War and the Russians launching Sputnik, media was saturated with space travel.

Nowadays, its saturated with all-things-trans.

Kids are probably more interested in genital mutilation than spaceflight now.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:45 AM (lD3vL)

545 Schumer thinks he's Ultra Brite but he's not . . .
Posted by: FireHorse
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You mean like a toothpaste?

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:46 AM (UUBmN)

546 Schumer said in Feb

The Presidents unlawful declaration over a crisis that does not exist does great violence to our Constitution and makes America less safe, stealing from urgently needed defense funds for the security of our military and our nation.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 21, 2019 08:46 AM (JFO2v)

547 Don't worry, it will all be brushed away soon."

Gargle...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:46 AM (6qErC)

548 Ya know what...I don't think there are any cobs around....what trouble can we get into?

Do something really daring and go expand the borders and leave everything strike-through case.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:47 AM (lD3vL)

549 what trouble can we get into? "

Gingivitis, from the sound of it...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:48 AM (6qErC)

550 Is it just us Texans ?

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:48 AM (UUBmN)

551 Ya know what...I don't think there are any cobs around....what trouble can we get into?
Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:45 AM


We could all put on pants ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2019 08:48 AM (0wxLi)

552 I noticed when I have a cold I can't taste coffee. On those days I only drink like a gallon and a half.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 21, 2019 08:48 AM (/Fmtj)

553 Sounds like little Pablo needs to go the fuck back to Guatemala, the dental care paradise.

I'm waiting for our expert AOC to be weighing in about now on this topic.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:49 AM (lD3vL)

554 Is it just us Texans ?"

Si.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:50 AM (6qErC)

555 Is it just us Texans ?
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:48 AM


We're the only ones who remembered the Alarmo.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2019 08:51 AM (0wxLi)

556 We're the only ones who remembered the Alarmo.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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*snort* aka cats...

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:52 AM (UUBmN)

557 Is it just us Texans ?

I was thinking about going on a distance ride this morning before the temps reached the century mark and the blast furnace from the south kicked in.

Apparently that idea failed.... time to french press some cofeveve

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:53 AM (lD3vL)

558 I'm waiting for our expert AOC to be weighing in about now on this topic.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:49 AM (lD3vL)


She can't make it.

Her legs broke due to osteoporosis,


from her teeth sucking all the calcium out of the rest of her body.


Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 08:53 AM (2EMYr)

559 Do something really daring and go expand the borders and leave everything strike-through case.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 08:47 AM (lD3vL)

That's a daily occurrence here.

Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:53 AM (cF8AT)

560 Ran out to Produce Junction, it is oppressive out there already.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2019 08:54 AM (BbGew)

561 Ya know what...I don't think there are any cobs around....what trouble can we get into?
Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:45 AM (cF8AT)

Are you not of the body?......

Landru save us!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2019 08:54 AM (Z+IKu)

562 No one has made it all bold and red while centered....

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:55 AM (UUBmN)

563 We're the only ones who remembered the Alarmo.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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*snort* aka cats...
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist! at July 21, 2019 08:52 AM (UUBmN)



Ooooo, Netflix needs to make a movie of

"The Alamo" with all the actors in the make-up and costumes from "CATS".


Call it "The Calico".


You're welcome, Hollywood!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 21, 2019 08:56 AM (2EMYr)

564 We could all put on pants ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2019 08:48 AM (0wxLi)

That's like Antifa level radical!

Posted by: Tami at July 21, 2019 08:56 AM (cF8AT)

565 We could all put on pants ... "

What's "pants" precious?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 21, 2019 08:57 AM (6qErC)

566 "The results reveal that, at least for Western countries, kids today are more interested in YouTube than spaceflight."

I had no interest in space or spaceflight or astronauts as a kid. And if we'd had youtube, I may have thought that was the cool thing to do. I don't know. As it was, I was into sports and spy stories.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 21, 2019 08:59 AM (H8QX8)

567 Tlaib going fukn nutz at 2016 Trump rally

https://tinyurl.com/y45jjhvq

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 21, 2019 08:59 AM (JFO2v)

568 Books ahoy!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2019 09:02 AM (kQs4Y)

569 Books are N000000D!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 09:02 AM (ta49A)

570 We all get promotions to Colonel.

When the CoBs' away, the Colonels will play.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2019 09:02 AM (0wxLi)

571 Short video of the first static firing of SpaceX's Starhopper test vehicle. It happened on 7/16 in Texas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKyZ_7ZjabU

That'll buff right out. No, really! It was still standing on the pad at the end. It was a fuel leak, not an explosion.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2019 09:03 AM (sdi6R)

572 We all get promotions to Colonel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax
________

You're higher than that just for having played football for Donald Trump.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 09:04 AM (ta49A)

573 I had no interest in space or spaceflight or astronauts as a kid.

I'm trying to think how that would look - some kid obsessing over spaceflight or astronauts.

Kids usually have remarkably short attention spans - which is good, since there is a great number of things worthy of exploration and interest.

We all can't be fighting for a spot on the Flight to Mars, and I don't know anyone who fantasizing about working behind a CAD/CAM station for years designing a component in a complex system... These days that work is off shored to developing country interns.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2019 09:05 AM (lD3vL)

574 Most people these days only care about what the media tells them to care about. Things were a different 50 years ago but the die was cast. Leading factors then were Uncle Walter's obsession with spaceflight and the sewing of the Red Scare in the news media. We won the Race and the Cold War is over. The media/elites thinks it's time to "Save the Planet"

Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 09:09 AM (PveK5)

575 Most people these days only care about what the media tells them to care about.

Posted by: pawn
________

That the nature of mass media as explained by agenda-setting theory, first proposed by Max McCombs at the University of Texas at Austin. This is how the media work, and it's natural.

What must be frustrating to the Left is that, though setting the agenda and dictating what we think about, the media don't tell us what to think. Media, therefore, are powerful but that power is limited.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 21, 2019 09:14 AM (ta49A)

576 "These days that work is off shored to developing country interns."

Not true. ITAR.

In the biz.

Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 09:14 AM (PveK5)

577 It seems to me that the only thing that the Left is frustrated about is the Constitution.

Posted by: pawn at July 21, 2019 09:32 AM (PveK5)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-20-2019 [Hosted By: MovieGique]

Shadow

I was tempering the children's expectations regarding this Zhang Yimou movie because it ranks well below House of Flying Daggers (on the ratings sites) which in turn ranks well below Hero, but I needn't have worried. We loved this tale of a changeling general (the titular "shadow") who is being set up to overthrow his Lord (because the real general was stabbed by a master and seems to be dying) through some series of plot devices that involve defeating the same master who stabbed the real general.

shadow 01.jpg
Meanwhile, a horse contemplates crossing a bridge.


I'm being vague here because it's been a few weeks and the plot was very intricate but we were pleasantly surprised: We all followed the plot and could tell the characters apart. Impressive, given that two of the leads are played by Chao Deng. But the characters are so different, I kept wondering if it was the same person.

Anyway, there's a lot going on. The Shadow is increasingly unsure of being a pawn in this game (which pretty much has to end up with him dying, even though the general teases him with the possibility of getting back to his mother after it's all over). The general's plan seems to be flawless if the Shadow can defeat the master but that's a big if. Meanwhile, the general's wife, while maintaining a respectful distance, does seem to be getting more attracted to the Shadow—who after all is identical to her husband, except maybe less of a jerk. Meanwhile, the wife ends up coming up with the strategy that can defeat the master, and it involves...weaponized umbrellas!

shadow 02.jpg
That is one nasty bumbershoot!


It's great. The indoor shots and a few of the battle scenes are filmed in black-and-white (probably color corrected after the fact), though the (obligatory) bamboo forest scene is a verdant green. It's just a beautiful film, is what I'm saying, and it's not just anyone who could make a battle scene involving an army of women with parasols work. In fact, I can't think of anyone else who could do it.

So, the set design is wonderful, the camerawork wonderful, the wire work amazing—though not over the top, which I appreciated, because the sort of super-heroic character implicit in the flying hero would've undermined the need for a solid battle strategy. The choreography is fun and the plot is engaging. The acting is good, kind of Shakespearean, with its weak kings and power mad generals. The stars are good looking and otherwise appealing. What more could you want? Music? The music is also really good, with drums and zithers dominating. (The stage name of the composer is, amusingly,"Loudboy", although there's some controversy over whether or not he plagiarized the work.)

shadow 03.jpg
Trouble a-brewin'.


Almost two hours long, but it's thick. The ending...is probably not a people-pleaser. The three men are locked in a struggle, while the general's wife has to figure out what her role in this is going to be. I liked getting to the end, and so was less invested in the details of the story's resolution. I did see a couple of the twists coming (as did The Flower), but not all of them.

A lot of fun. Pure historical soap with kung-fu action. Don't know why it didn't do better.

shadow 04.jpg
Deadly umbrella squad or scrubbing bubbles?

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:50 PM




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Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:51 PM (GaOgf)

2 Hello OM. Is this movie in English or subtitles?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:51 PM (GaOgf)

3 Movie sign!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 07:52 PM (kQs4Y)

4 Nyah!

Turtles on the half shell spinning instead of scrubbing bubbles?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:52 PM (cH3lq)

5 More movies I never saw.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:53 PM (BbGew)

6 "Deadly umbrella squad or scrubbing bubbles?"

Langoliers.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 07:53 PM (t+qrx)

7 Langoliers.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 07:53 PM (t+qrx)


Oh Oh Oh I know this one!

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:54 PM (GaOgf)

8 A friend saw "Crawl". Said it was the best B-level killer croc movie filmed in Serbia he's seen in a long time.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 07:54 PM (kQs4Y)

9 Chappaquiddick. Yeah.

I had to watch this on this anniversary. All I can say is - it is brilliant. It sticks to the facts as we know them; and what we know isn't quite What Happened That Night, but how the coverup went down afterward.

And what we know from the coverup is disgusting. Edward Kennedy ran from the accident and hid (probably to lower his own B.A.C. level), and then called in the accident after the cops had already found the body and done a preliminary diagnosis of asphyxiation (and not drowning) on poor Mary Jo Kopechne.

We all know the story, or have cobbled bits of it from this or that comment made by this or that anti-Kennedy commentator; but to see it all play out on screen is wrenching.

Also disgusting is how the local muckety-mucks of eastern Massachusetts fell all over themselves to help out a Kennedy. And the ending where most the eastern Masshole NPCs agree to vote for this worm again, uggh.

So: not easy to watch (despite the LOLz over the famous neck brace) but I recommend it to all.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (ykYG2)

10 If The Jade Enchantress or The Devil Wives of Li Fong ever were made into movies, the Soviet Justice Wankers would be up in arms over cultural appropriation because both delightful romps were written by an American named E. Hoffmann Price.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (cH3lq)

11 Tough to look at entertainment the same way and enjoy it.

Posted by: guy shocked to death over all the androgynes at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (ym5eo)

12 I like samurai movies, kung-fu are ok

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (BbGew)

13 ALH--

"Shadow" is in Chinese. I saw subtitles but there's probably a dub out there.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (CcUfv)

14 ''Trouble a-brewin'.''

Oh boy is it ever. You know when a beautiful woman starts bandaging a handsome warrior it's more than trouble brewing. See Last of the Mohicans and Outlander.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (jm1YL)

15 Crawl is good of its kind. A Boo! movie

Where's Steve Irwin when you need him

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (EaqZE)

16 also, thanks / apologies to the ONT last night, where I was live-commenting it when i watched it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (ykYG2)

17

Kind of thought we might get a space movie for today. Oh well, back to Space 1999. Joan Collins was in the last one with a dress that barely covered her bum

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (1ChV0)

18 Anna!

Oh, wow, E Hoffman Price is RIGHT up my alley. I'll have to pick him up.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (CcUfv)

19 It was Ted's own idea to wear the neck brace

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (EaqZE)

20 How did alligator snapping turtles get to Japan? And what are they protesting in the street?

Posted by: guy shocked to death over all the androgynes at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (ym5eo)

21 "Shadow" is in Chinese. I saw subtitles but there's probably a dub out there.
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (CcUfv)

Anything like What's Up Tiger Lily?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (GaOgf)

22 if this is also the /a/ thread as well as /tv/ : the Kanata no Astra anime, tracking the manga, has been running the last few weeks. In my opinion it's the best space odyssey anime since Yamato / Star Bazalers*.

*not the real name.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 07:59 PM (ykYG2)

23 The only movies with Asians in them most Americans want to see are those kung-fu types where the mouth is still moving but the words have already been said or vice-versa.

Fists of Fury, Five Fingers of Death, Enter the Dragon and Kentucky Fried Movie come to mind.

Everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 07:59 PM (Z+IKu)

24 First Man is on HBO. Its too much of an art film, but has its moments

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:59 PM (EaqZE)

25 I'm kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 20, 2019 08:00 PM (++4Ew)

26 19 It was Ted's own idea to wear the neck brace
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (EaqZE)

Fucking Beneke, dude.

Posted by: guy shocked to death over all the androgynes at July 20, 2019 08:00 PM (ym5eo)

27 The Jade Enchantress is all about outwitting the Chinese tax man, pillow books, Mongols, and of course jade.

The Devil Wives of Li Fong centers around humble Li Fong who gets blessed with two beautiful wives. who happen to be snake demons who want to fix their karma and become human. Alas there are unscrupulous monks who want to do away with the wives.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:01 PM (cH3lq)

28 TheQuietMan--

One of the first moves I reviewed on my blog back in 2007 was "In the Shadow of the Moon", a low-key documentary interviewing Buzz and the gang.

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2007/10/13/in-the-shadow-of-the-moon/

But I write the reviews typically weeks before they show up here so I'm not very topical.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:03 PM (CcUfv)

29 So: not easy to watch (despite the LOLz over the famous neck brace) but I recommend it to all.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (ykYG2)

I suspect the part where even his own family and hangers on were disgusted is a Hollywood invention, but it should have been true. He had zero business setting foot in Washington, save for a public execution on account of his treason.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2019 08:03 PM (o5jh5)

30 The only movies with Asians in them most Americans want to see are those kung-fu types where the mouth is still moving but the words have already been said or vice-versa.

Fists of Fury, Five Fingers of Death, Enter the Dragon and Kentucky Fried Movie come to mind.

Everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

I guess we should wait for the ONT to discuss the other Asian movies.

Posted by: Jean at July 20, 2019 08:05 PM (7eVo8)

31 Kung-fu Hustle, can't forget that. Or most of Jackie Chan's movies. Or can we?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (cH3lq)

32 There were a lot of space movies on this week, caught Alien, and Aliens.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (BbGew)

33 31 Kung-fu Hustle, can't forget that. Or most of Jackie Chan's movies. Or can we?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (cH3lq)


I LOVE Kung-fu Hustle.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2019 08:07 PM (x8APX)

34 This week I picked up a few videodiscs (CEDs) that showed up at my local thrift store. One is a 1979 Italian/American movie called The Visitor that has a small part played by Neil Boortz, the radio guy. Haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet, but it opens up with a pretty good visual sequence with John Houston in a psychedelic dreamscape.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:07 PM (oVJmc)

35 I'm kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike.


Well, they ARE Chinese.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:08 PM (oVJmc)

36 I saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" this past week and I must say I was impressed. Did it take liberties with what actually happened? I am 1000% sure it did but it was an entertaining movie and had moments which reminded me of my youth so that counted for a great deal.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:10 PM (/0HPZ)

37 I also saw Secret Of My Success again, for the first time since 1987.

As semi-satires of Reagan-era New York go, TSoMS is not the best. Gremlins 2 is the best. With honourable mentions to Weekend At Bernies and Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead.

But if you like watching Michael J Fox get pounced on by MILFs twice as tall as he is, which I'll admit that I did when I was thirteen years old, then go for it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (ykYG2)

38 Sven is showing Village of the Giants.


Good chance to see a barely-clothed Joy Harmon (LOOOO-CIIILLLEEE!!!)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (oVJmc)

39 House of the Flying Daggers, Golden Flower and Bullet Proof Monk are my watch over and over movies.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (BZzXD)

40 Oh well, back to Space 1999. Joan Collins was in the last one with a dress that barely covered her bum
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (1ChV0)

There's something I haven't seen at all since I was nine and I couldn't help but think of what a strange show it was back then.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (/0HPZ)

41 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:10 PM (/0HPZ)

I liked it. No idea how accurate it was. I heard it had the full backing of the band however. Minus Freddy obviously.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 08:12 PM (dUJdY)

42
There's something I haven't seen at all since I was nine and I couldn't help but think of what a strange show it was back then.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (/0HPZ)



I'm digging the bellbottomed jump suits and platform shoes in 1999.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (1ChV0)

43 25 I'm kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike.
Posted by: Texican ette at July 20, 2019 08:00 PM (++4Ew)

Two hours watching one you want to watch it again.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (Vy7tf)

44 The Jade Enchantress is all about outwitting the Chinese tax man

Iron Monkey was good for this.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (ykYG2)

45 Dang it, now can't remember the title of this one Chinese film kept meaning to watch and then getting distracted.

Got a princess who is disfigured. An evil nine-tail offers to swap faces and skins with her. And things get bad from there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (cH3lq)

46 Speaking of Asian movies - anybody see the Sunday silent two weeks ago on TCM? It was a Japanese horror movie from 1926 called "A Page of Madness". I'd never even heard of it.
It was brilliant. It actually reminded me of - and I can't believe I'm saying this - Napoleon and Man With A Movie Camera. Simple plot - an old man takes a job at an insane asylum to be near his wife, who's an inmate. But the photography and editing are unworldly. Distorted lenses, swish pans, canted frames, elaborate camera movements - it was unreal. I immediately watched it again the next day. Check out the imdb page for about 20 stills - you'll get an idea.

Posted by: Vertov at July 20, 2019 08:14 PM (fVQkv)

47 oh I wanma watch Shadow! is it streaming anywhere?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 08:14 PM (dm05u)

48 All Chinese Historical Drama look alike?! IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?!

Yeah, kinda true, the way Korean historical dramas tend to, and European ones, too.

American ones break down into categories (western, frontier, colonial, civil war, gilded age) which look different between them but tend to look the same in the same genre.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:14 PM (CcUfv)

49 Does no one watch Israeli made movies?

How about Ushpizin, The Band and The Lemon Tree.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:15 PM (BZzXD)

50 I've never watched a Chinese movie, so I dunno. I was so involved with the chess thread that I completely missed that Soyuz MS-13 has already docked with the ISS. That happened a couple of hours ago.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

51 There were a lot of space movies on this week, caught Alien, and Aliens.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (BbGew)


A couple of local radio stations were playing space related songs or songs from 1969 as a tie in

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:15 PM (1ChV0)

52 I don't think I have seen a Chinese movie. I have seen Korean ones and have some on DVD in fact. I also have two of the works of Sergei Eisenstein: Alexander Nevsky and Ivan the Terrible Part I.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (/0HPZ)

53 Watched "Roadhouse" on Netflix. I never saw it before. Lots of tits. I was thinking "That asshole would have been shot with an AR-15 ten years ago."

Posted by: JAS at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (I5SAg)

54 Ben Had, does watching Divine Intervention once count in some odd weird way?

https://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/04/palestinian-matrix-movie.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (cH3lq)

55 Vmom--

I don't know if there's a legitimate place to watch Shadow yet. Since WB shuttered DramaFever there isn't really a good central place for Asian stuff.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (CcUfv)

56 kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike"

You be here fou hours! You go now!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 08:18 PM (6qErC)

57 Watching boxing on Fox. Gonna be a early night.

For the boxer in the black trunks.

Posted by: JAS at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (I5SAg)

58 Ben Had--

We must not have met previously. There have been times when Israeli films made up, maybe 10-20% of my moviegoing.

The Boy and I will watch as many as we can during the L.A. Israeli Film Fest, but it's gotten so popular it's hard to get in any more.

Uzhpizin is one of my favorite films of all time, and I liked The Band. In fact, I was very close to making the review today of "The Other Story", which is great.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (CcUfv)

59 heard it had the full backing of the band however

I've drawn the parallel between "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Control". "Rhapsody" got the band's perspective but didn't ask around much beyond that.

"Control" got the perspective of Ian Curtis' estranged wife. And the New Order boys didn't like it.

Because "Control" accused the rest of Joy Division as, mainly, a bunch of enablers who lied to Mrs Curtis which they, er, were. Although it did excuse the band as being a bunch of working-class kids, FAR over their heads with what Mr Curtis was going through.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (ykYG2)

60 I'm watching one of the Hunger Games flicks. Stanley Tucci's phosphorescent chiclet teeth are amazing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (kQs4Y)

61 Stephen Chow movies are always fun.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:20 PM (oVJmc)

62 Anna, I confess that I never seen this but I will see what I can do to rectify that.

The Stoning of SorayaM is still a classic for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:20 PM (BZzXD)

63 The ref stopped the bout and the guy in black trunks is pissed.

Posted by: JAS at July 20, 2019 08:20 PM (I5SAg)

64 Watched the end of The Dirty Dozen on TCM. I still expect Jim Brown to make it.

I learned that it and Inglorius Basterds were inspired by the real life Filthy Thirteen, a unit that parachuted behind lines during things like DDay to blow up shit

Led by a guy named McNiece who was part Chocktaw Indian

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 08:21 PM (KcAVx)

65 First Ben Had watch the clip in the link. You may want to not watch this movie afterwards... o.O;;;;

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:21 PM (cH3lq)

66 Alita is going to be in Redbox's in a few days. I didn't have a chance to see it in the theater.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 20, 2019 08:22 PM (DjIXP)

67 "Control" is a terrific little film.

"24 Hour party People" also had Joy Division with Ian Curtis portrayed by Sean Harris.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (kQs4Y)

68 movieque, I am sorry if I stomped on your thread and I appreciate your kindness.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (BZzXD)

69 As someone upthread said, I prefer samurai to kung fu.

It's not about fighting styles, Japanese have a certain aesthetic and so does Hong Kong.

Meanwhile I am just bouncing up and down waiting for "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" to come out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (fuK7c)

70 couple of local radio stations were playing space related songs or songs from 1969 as a tie in

I suppose Co shu Nie's "Asphyxia" didn't make the playlist

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (ykYG2)

71 Not Chinese, but Asian-Japanese. We watched "Ran" directed by Kurosawa, which the story of "King Lear" set in feudal Japan and with three sons instead of three daughters. It was very good.

Now son and his dad are watching something called Monsieur Varneux, or something like that which features Charlie Chaplin against type, cast as a serial murderer. I had never heard of it before. Martha Raye play one of his wives. She is funny.

My son likes off beat films, I will recommend this Chinese film to him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (+0VWg)

72 We got a digital download code with a mini-Kubrick of Alita in the store. Still no urge to see it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (cH3lq)

73 Bongino is on fire this week.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 08:24 PM (S7WbR)

74

Now son and his dad are watching something called Monsieur Varneux,



Monsieur Verdoux.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:25 PM (oVJmc)

75 I'm watching one of the Hunger Games flicks.


I saw the first one because children. All I remember is that the girl is being chased by a 40 foot tall CGI wolf that's about ten paces behind her and he never catches up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:26 PM (fuK7c)

76 Alita is going to be in Redbox's in a few days. I didn't have a chance to see it in the theater.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 20, 2019 08:22 PM (DjIXP)

The girl who plays Alita is cute as a button. And oddly the big googly eyes thing worked well.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:26 PM (DgSC4)

77 Anna, dial up does not lend itself to video unless I want to wait 8/9 hours.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:27 PM (BZzXD)

78
The girl who plays Alita is cute as a button. And oddly the big googly eyes thing worked well.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:26 PM (DgSC4)


Marty Feldman:What's so odd about that?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:28 PM (1ChV0)

79 Alita is yuuge over on 4chan's /tv/ for some reason.
I did like it but I'd rate it 7/10. something to buy at the $8 level or less.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:28 PM (ykYG2)

80 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:25 PM (oVJmc)

Yep; Sorry. Charlie does some of his famous facial expressions though. I haven't seen Chaplin in many talkies, if any, but I may be having a senior moment about them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:28 PM (+0VWg)

81 The Stoning of Soraya M. actually pissed me off. It's a good movie. The story is barbaric.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:29 PM (CcUfv)

82 We got a digital download code with a mini-Kubrick of Alita in the store. Still no urge to see it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (cH3lq

Ever watch the OVA? Basically the same thing with some extra stuff I'm assuming from the manga thrown in.

It's not bad. But then I'm a dirty old man that just likes watching cute girls.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (DgSC4)

83 We watched "Ran" directed by Kurosawa, which the story of "King Lear" set in feudal Japan and with three sons instead of three daughters. It was very good.


It's not just Lear. It's Lear, but it's more. Specifically it's Die Niebelungen, a 1931-ish silent movie by Fritz Lang. It's four or six hours long, so it's a commitment, but if your son is a geek it will be worth the effort.

A lot of the plot is the same, a girl is forced to marry into an enemy household and plots to destroy it from within. And some of the scenes are shot for shot remakes.

I love Kurosawa and I hate that Leone stole from him, but his hands were not perfectly clean.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (fuK7c)

84 boulder t'hobo, Do you have a pawnshop in your area that has DVD's. I get most of mine for a buck and they do a two for one trade in.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (BZzXD)

85 Ok, so Ace.mu.nu now shows up on my phones Google news feed. Sweet, sure as shit better than CNN stories.

Posted by: Garbone at July 20, 2019 08:31 PM (F0Hqz)

86 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

MAGA has such special meaning today.

Posted by: Quilp at July 20, 2019 08:31 PM (Bf3hj)

87 Went to check the Indycar race in Iowa but they were showing the IMSA race in Connecticut. I will assume it is raining in Newton, Iowa?

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2019 08:32 PM (Qt2ya)

88 movieque, No less than the stoning scene in "The Kite Runner"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:33 PM (BZzXD)

89 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (fuK7c)

Thanks. I will tell him. The last silent film they watched was "Metropolis" by Fritz Lang.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:34 PM (+0VWg)

90 87: some sporty weather around newton right now.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (KP5rU)

91 86 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

MAGA has such special meaning today.
Posted by: Quilp at July 20, 2019 08:31 PM (Bf3hj)

As much as I commemorate every July 20 for the great event 50 years ago tonight, I'm bent that we have not done a single moon landing in my lifetime.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (/0HPZ)

92

In honor of the space walk I'd like to mention one of the greatest movies ever made that was set in space. Space Mutiny.


Slab Bulkhead!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (1ChV0)

93 Re: the Newton Indycar race, yes, it's raining. I'm at the track, sitting in the car, waiting for the rain to stop, or for them to call it off.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (wshbh)

94 The last silent film they watched was "Metropolis" by Fritz Lang.


The source of all set design for dystopic film since. Yes, Blade Runner, I'm looking at you.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:36 PM (fuK7c)

95 first scene to feature Chaplin's voice
https://tinyurl.com/y3dfdoz3

Posted by: Vertov at July 20, 2019 08:36 PM (fVQkv)

96 chavez, are you safe and out of harm's way? I saw that you were without power.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:37 PM (BZzXD)

97 Ben Had --

Oh, no problem at all. Same with anyone who wants to discuss a movie topic. The post is just to start the conversation, if that.

Anna --

Every Palestinian movie I have seen has been virulently anti-Semitic. And that's just the ones that make it to Encino. Critics love 'em, tho'.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:38 PM (CcUfv)

98 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:36 PM (fuK7c)

I didn't see all of it. I tend to wander in and out unless it's a movie I really want to see. Yes, it seemed creepy and dystopic since it's it part, the regimentation of workers and the evils of capitalism, or so it seemed..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:38 PM (+0VWg)

99 Slab Bulkhead!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (1ChV0)
---

https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_David_Ryder

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 08:38 PM (kQs4Y)

100 I'm bent that we have not done a single moon landing in my lifetime.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (/0HPZ)

Three things I want in my lifetime.

1. Affordable trips to the moon.

2. Flying cars.

3. Genetically engineered and domesticated cat girls.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:39 PM (DgSC4)

101 ''movieque, No less than the stoning scene in "The Kite Runner"''

Try watching "Osama" which I think was the 1st movie to come out of Afghanistan after the Taliban fell. It's not about the Osama but about a young girl who disguises herself as a boy to find work during the Taliban's reign of terror. Oh it will make you madder than hell.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 08:40 PM (jm1YL)

102 Specifically it's Die Niebelungen, a 1931-ish silent movie by Fritz Lang.

Heh...I've got Sigfried and Kriemhild's Revenge on 8mm film.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:40 PM (oVJmc)

103 Nine years old fifty years ago. First time my parents let me stay up late. A mazing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:40 PM (fuK7c)

104 Genetically engineered and domesticated cat girls.
Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019

I assume you mean "cat girls" as in "Batman"not as in the musical and now movie "Cats" which look really creepy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:41 PM (+0VWg)

105 Ben Had--

True. In fact, I compared "Kite Runner" to "Soraya":

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2009/07/15/everybody-must-get-stoned/

(Earlier review of "Kite"):

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2008/01/19/the-kite-runner/

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (CcUfv)

106 If anyone is less looking for a good movie for the kids (and adults), I just discovered a grew anime from 1988 "My neighbor Totoro". Its brilliant, and my daughters new favorite.

Posted by: Bill Rebar at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (Mq6Ea)

107
Bongino is on fire this week.
Posted by: logprof

======

Is he hopping mad, or is he promising that something big is coming soon? I stopped listening to him a while ago.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (13CQC)

108 Anna Puma @ 54- Well, dang. That was different.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (UUkQp)

109 Tuna, Thanks. I will find it.

Arranged is a movie that took a decided Muslim better than Jews slant.

I have to rewatch "Where Do We Go Now".

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (BZzXD)

110 17 "kind of thought we might get a space movie..."

good news! i've thought up what i think might be a winning sci-fi movie. it's akin to those 60's classics like "when worlds collide" or "crack in the world":

the world's richest man (we'll call him zebo) has announced his plan to colonize the moon on a vast scale to utilize its resources for mankind and as a stepping stone to the stars. the world is enthralled with his vision and unites to develop his plan. except there's one problem - the costs of shipping the habitations to the moon would be prohibitive. enter our protagonist: a humanitarian architect who's designed housing units for the poor that are cheap, lightweight and durable (like geodesic domes), and they'll cut the costs to pennies on the dollar. he joins the great endeavor and supervises the construction of hundreds of his structures on the moon. but he gradually is blocked out until he's completely forbidden from his own designs. suspicious, he sneaks into the heavily guarded facilities to find... they contain gigantic rockets! thousands! shocked, our hero races back to earth to confront zebo. what is his secret plan? zebo explains he is going to turn on the rockets and push the moon out of its orbit, further and further from the earth until it flats away. this will cause the earth to wobble drastically, the environment will be in chaos until all life is destroyed! but why??? "because i can", zebo sneers.

the end

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (Pg+x7)

111 I assume you mean "cat girls" as in "Batman"not as in the musical and now movie "Cats" which look really creepy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:41 PM (+0VWg)

*Covers Anna's ears*

More like the Puma Sisters but without the rampaging criminality.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:44 PM (DgSC4)

112 91
86 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

People who weren't born or old enough to have watched the space race on black and white tv maybe can't appreciate how big a thing it was at the time. I remember my dad pointing at the moon saying "There are American's walking around on that thing right now".

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 08:44 PM (K22Va)

113 Tuna--

I think I did see "Osama", and it did piss me off, but I don't see a review on my site. Oh! It was before I started it.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:44 PM (CcUfv)

114 movieque, Thanks, I will go back and reread that.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:45 PM (BZzXD)

115 The worst part of hanging out in the car during the rain delay here at Newton is that we're close to running out of beer . . .

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 08:45 PM (wshbh)

116 Slab Bulkhead!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (1ChV0)


Big McLargehuge.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 08:45 PM (o9nSg)

117 zebo explains he is going to turn on the rockets
and push the moon out of its orbit, further and further from the earth
until it flats away. this will cause the earth to wobble drastically,
the environment will be in chaos until all life is destroyed! but why???
"because i can", zebo sneers.



the end

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (Pg+x7)


Space 1999: Push the moon out of its orbit and it just drifts away? Hmmm...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:46 PM (1ChV0)

118 ''Tuna, Thanks. I will find it.

Arranged is a movie that took a decided Muslim better than Jews slant.

I have to rewatch "Where Do We Go Now".

Our feminists ought to be made to watch it over and over. On second thought it probably wouldn't make a dent in their smug armor.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 08:46 PM (jm1YL)

119
The movie did poorly because it lacks Woke Muslim Tranny Feminists, duh!

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at July 20, 2019 08:48 PM (UFLLM)

120 106 If anyone is less looking for a good movie for the kids (and adults), I just discovered a grew anime from 1988 "My neighbor Totoro". Its brilliant, and my daughters new favorite.
Posted by: Bill Rebar at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (Mq6Ea)

Kiki's Delivery Service.

You'll fucking love it.

Oh, do you like WWI aeroplanes?

Porco Rosso.

Same director.

Again, you'll fucking love it.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:49 PM (DgSC4)

121 Bill Rebar--

Studio Ghibli is generally good family fare. "Totoro", "Kiki's Delivery Service", "Ponyo", etc. A couple are more older children-oriented, like "Only Yesterday", "Whispers of the Heart", and maybe "Tales from Earthsea" (I haven't seen that one).

Every year there's a "Studio Ghibli Fest" which basically airs one of the movies every month in nationwide screenings, so it's a good family outing, too.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:49 PM (CcUfv)

122 "space 19 whosits whatsits"?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (Pg+x7)

123 I like this Scherie Murray chick running against AOC

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (S7WbR)

124 logprof, I do too.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (BZzXD)

125 drat.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:52 PM (Pg+x7)

126 zebo explains he is going to turn on the rockets
and push the moon out of its orbit, further and further from the earth
until it flats away. this will cause the earth to wobble drastically,
the environment will be in chaos until all life is destroyed! but why???
"because i can", zebo sneers.



the end

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (Pg+x7)


Space 1999: Push the moon out of its orbit and it just drifts away? Hmmm...
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:46 PM (1ChV0)

Well...the moon *is* moving further away. Wouldn't it be better to just accelerate its orbit instead of trying to push it away?

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (DgSC4)

127 Robert--

It's less fun, but Miyazaki's last film was "The Wind Rises", a kind of mash-up of two Japanese airplane engineers.

It's a weird feeling to be rooting for the guy(s) who made the Zero. But in Miyazaki's way, he's pointing out the tragedy of these guys who loved flight and airplanes, and the only way they had to express it was to build fighters.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (CcUfv)

128 That was a really fun read.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (awAkQ)

129 July 69, out of high school 2 years, in the Navy 1 year and the moon landing too. It was a good time.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (UUkQp)

130 I like this Scherie Murray chick running against AOC

There seems to be some concern about her because she apparently had supported A O-C when she ran for the seat before, but maybe it's just that she now sees how bad she is when actually in office. There are about four other R's running-one is some Latino construction fellow, I believe..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (+0VWg)

131 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

Posted by: Quilp


I am not 29 enough to have done that.

"One Small Step," by Ayreon, is a song about being that kid. It's part of a two-disc sci-fi concept album about being the last man on Mars. I think I'll go listen to that, now.

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (P1f+c)

132 I'm watching a young Elizabeth Hurley in an Inspector Morse series and boy there is no resemblance to her as she aged.

Time did a lot for Liz.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (BZzXD)

133 I have no memory of watching the moon landing which was at 4:17pm, I thought the moon walk all these years was early morning but was at 9:5? PM. I remember my mother trying to wake me up to see it so maybe was in bed early.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (BbGew)

134 96; ben safe. no damage to our place. still without power. 100,000 without power here. major storm. craziest one i've seen in awhile. thanks for asking.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (KP5rU)

135 Studio Ghibli is generally good family fare. "Totoro", "Kiki's Delivery Service", "Ponyo", etc. A couple are more older children-oriented, like "Only Yesterday", "Whispers of the Heart", and maybe "Tales from Earthsea" (I haven't seen that one).

Every year there's a "Studio Ghibli Fest" which basically airs one of the movies every month in nationwide screenings, so it's a good family outing, too.
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:49 PM (CcUfv)

Almost forgot La Blue Girl and Urotsukidoji.

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 08:55 PM (DgSC4)

136 123 Scherie Murray is a smarter Trojan horse. There are twitters out there of hers that's she's congratulating AOC. she's not any type of republican/conservative.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 20, 2019 08:55 PM (a4qVe)

137 "space 19 whosits whatsits"?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (Pg+x7)



A TV show from the 1970s. There is an explosion on the dark side of the moon where they've been storing nuclear waste the blast acts like a giant propulsion and sends the moon out of earth's orbit and hurling through space. The people trapped on Moonbase Alpha try to survive on the moon.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:55 PM (1ChV0)

138 124 logprof, I do too.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (BZzXD)

--If nothing else, she's inoculated against the Race Card. And the Immigrant Card.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (S7WbR)

139 It's a weird feeling to be rooting for the guy(s) who made the Zero. But in Miyazaki's way, he's pointing out the tragedy of these guys who loved flight and airplanes, and the only way they had to express it was to build fighters.


Very much this, but it was still an odd movie. It was a straight biography, this happened and then that happened and then that. I didn't really get a point from it.

Still fun spending time inside Miyazaki's head.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)

140 Ayreon
Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (P1f+c)

BRO!

*High five*

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (DgSC4)

141 I support anyone who will make trouble for AOC.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:57 PM (oVJmc)

142 Slab Bulkhead!
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Big McLargeHuge!

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 08:57 PM (+Tibp)

143

Are there no classic space exploration movies TCM could have put on this weekend? I know they have rights to The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet fer cryin out loud...

instead we get Sleepless in Seattle and Sand in My Vagina Diaries... props for Dirty Dozen, but still...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (UFLLM)

144 There seems to be some concern about her because she apparently had supported A O-C when she ran for the seat before, but maybe it's just that she now sees how bad she is when actually in office.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (+0VWg)


I rate that hypothesis as: "Sure ... now, pull the other leg.".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (6fsOH)

145 I was 9 too. Dad was in Nam. Mom and I watched, it was like 4:00 in the morning EST as I recall.

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (UdKB7)

146 I dropped off this thread to talk with parents.

We do have a pawn shop in Longmont but usually I go for the 2nd And Charles in Broomfield-or-is-it-Superior, across the 36.

The pawn shop in Longmont sells DVDs that are sometimes too scratched even to watch.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (ykYG2)

147 Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (KP5rU)

I hope that you and the others get your power back before too long.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (+0VWg)

148 Is that a young Beau Bridges on Svengoolie?

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (+Tibp)

149 I know they have rights to The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet fer cryin out loud...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (UFLLM)


The Day the Earth Stood Still is a movie that you can only watch once per lifetime.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (6fsOH)

150 Everyone's Gone to the Moon.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 09:00 PM (Z+IKu)

151

We bought our first TV set to watch the moon mission. My parents were wankers, but did want me to have an education and appreciation for the universe.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (UFLLM)

152 (space 1999. martin landau & barbara bain in a "realistic" sci-fi series. it wasn't bad.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (Pg+x7)

153 Any Kung Foo Fucking?Too many sharp parasols........

Posted by: saf at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (5IHGB)

154 logprof, she would take a leg out of the Squats.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (BZzXD)

155 Very much this, but it was still an odd movie. It was a straight biography, this happened and then that happened and then that. I didn't really get a point from it.

Still fun spending time inside Miyazaki's head.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)

Miyazaki took the historical figure and some of the surrounding events and created a fiction around it. Miyazaki has a real fascination with flight and I think he inserted himself into the role somewhat. "If i were an airplane designer I wouldn't want to build it for war!"

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 09:02 PM (DgSC4)

156 Also on Sven is a young Opie Cunningham. He has hair, is marginally more likable than his current self, but still has no soul.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (+Tibp)

157 town about six miles from here really got smoked. looks like a war zone. we got lucky here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (KP5rU)

158 If anyone is less looking for a good movie for the kids (and adults), I just discovered a grew anime from 1988 "My neighbor Totoro". Its brilliant, and my daughters new favorite.

Posted by: Bill Rebar at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (Mq6Ea)


I was in Japan in '88 when Totoro was coming out.

The commercial was brilliant and like no0thing you'd ever see in America.

The commercial was simply the scene where Totoro is waiting for the Cat Bus in the rain with the girl.

They're just standing in the light rain under umbrellas for about 30 seconds, when suddenly-

Totoro jumps up a bit and lands with a thud that shakes the trees and causes the water held on the leaves to fall in a deluge.

Totoro smiles.

The title screen. And a voice announcing "Totoro".

End of commercial.

I was hooked.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (2EMYr)

159 Chavez - You running on generator, or UPS?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (xSo9G)

160
I've seen The Day the Earth Stood Still several times.

Gort carrying off Patricia Neal and her breastesses gives me space wood...

Posted by: Ken Shabby at July 20, 2019 09:05 PM (UFLLM)

161 One thing I really like about Miyazaki is that he's willing to use silence or quiet in his movies.

In everyone one of his Movies there'll be a major scene, sometimes an action scene, played in near silence.

Kiki's Delivery Service has an especially nice near silent action scene with just the sound of the wind.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:06 PM (2EMYr)

162 Rain has stopped at the Iowa Speedway and they're starting to dry the track. We may see a race afterall!

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM (wshbh)

163 159: ipad, charged off of a jump battery i bought at costco. candles and flashlights. all gas stations around here shut down no power. no gas for generator until tomorrow. most roads around here are closed. just main highways open.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM (KP5rU)

164 133 I have no memory of watching the moon landing which was at 4:17pm, I thought the moon walk all these years was early morning but was at 9:5? PM. I remember my mother trying to wake me up to see it so maybe was in bed early.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (BbGew)


Yes, the landing was in the afternoon and there was no live video, but the audio was on both TV and radio.

One thing that has improved since then is that now we have live rocketcams: inexpensive disposable video cameras mounted on the rocket that can provide live views of launches. A lunar module today would certainly carry one to show the approach and descent.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM (sdi6R)

165 If you happen to be living in Albany in 2008, you can have your own Catbus. $2900.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yymgywna

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 09:08 PM (t+qrx)

166 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

Posted by: Quilp

I was 3. so, no. But I do remember the later ones, especially 17.

It was years later that I learned my dear departed grandpa was an engineer/machinist for Apollo 1 thru 13, contracted out from Boeing. His area was the heat shields.

I watched Apollo 13 with him and my dad (so many years ago), and Grandpa said, "the young fella playing Mr. Krantz is very good, but Mr. Krantz never cussed."

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 09:09 PM (aurSP)

167 Rain has stopped at the Iowa Speedway and they're starting to dry the track. We may see a race afterall!
Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM

Put on semi wets and go racing

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:09 PM (BbGew)

168 hi Fenelon!

I'm attending a (belated) memorial for my grandparents in a few weeks. They're having me recite kaddish (which I knew I'd be doing when I heard about it). I've been trying to get information on whether I'd be speaking it, singing it; or in English or Aramaic. Because Aramaic ain't exactly my first language and, if it IS Aramaic, I'd have to rehearse.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:10 PM (ykYG2)

169
CtH glad you are Ok, and as I recall the others were too? I was sitting in Papeete airport trying to follow the live action. Tornadoes are scary.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 09:10 PM (UFLLM)

170 The weather is funky as hell. Woke up this morning to another scorcher, but by 2pm the temps had dropped 15 degrees and the humidity skyrocketed.

It's now a misty rain with soaker clouds overhead. Reminds me of Alaska, or 1993 in Montana, when the jet stream split.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 09:12 PM (aurSP)

171 Smithsonian channel is showing a documentary on moon landing

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:12 PM (BbGew)

172 167Rain has stopped at the Iowa Speedway and they're starting to dry the track. We may see a race afterall!
Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM

Put on semi wets and go racing

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:09 PM (BbGew)

Good idea, but I don't think they do that on ovals.


Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:12 PM (wshbh)

173 My dad was talking the Apollo missions, and how awesome it was that the Americans got all their astronauts BACK HOME.

I mooted that Apollo 13 was the high point - because it 'failed'. They learnt so much about how their own spacecraft worked (or didn't work) that the 14-17 missions got a lot more bang for the buck. To the point of running around on the lunar surface with the rovers.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:13 PM (ykYG2)

174 Also appearing on Sven is the kid from the Rifleman. They make him wear a cowboy hat. This movie is awful.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:14 PM (+Tibp)

175 Also appearing on Sven is the kid from the Rifleman. They make him wear a cowboy hat. This movie is awful.
Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:14 PM (+Tibp)

Hey. You're watching Village of the Giants!

You need to see MST 3ks sendup of this one. It's classic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 09:15 PM (aurSP)

176 Thought thats the point why Sven is showing it

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:15 PM (BbGew)

177 Currently, I'm watching the Takashi Miike movie-

"TerraFormars"

It's an anime based live action movie about Japanese astronauts send to destroy highly evolved cockroach humanoids using INSECT POWERS!!!!!1111!!!.

Typical Miike in that it's both crazy violent and well...crazy.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:15 PM (2EMYr)

178 the battery back up on my modem is about to crash. maybe use my phone or say adios. third world problem, i guess. at least the storms are over.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:16 PM (KP5rU)

179 Stay safe CtH, will be praying!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 20, 2019 09:17 PM (a4qVe)

180 173
I mooted that Apollo 13 was the high point - because it 'failed'. They learnt so much about how their own spacecraft worked (or didn't work) that the 14-17 missions got a lot more bang for the buck. To the point of running around on the lunar surface with the rovers.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:13 PM (ykYG2)


Yeah, but I think Apollo 13 scared the hell out of the politicians and probably the NASA managers as well. They knew that it was only a matter of time before they lost a crew and it probably contributed to the cancellation of the Apollo program.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:17 PM (sdi6R)

181 Those stupid Americans, losing the space shuttle. Soviet scientists are best scientists. Energy production up 23% near Kiev!

Posted by: the Soviet Politburo, February 1986 at July 20, 2019 09:19 PM (ykYG2)

182 "You're watching Village of the Giants! "

Is that the one with the giant fake Jeff Bridges legs?

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 09:20 PM (UdKB7)

183 Holy buckets! The sheriff in the Sven movie is Joe Turkel! Played the ghost bartender in Shining. Played the creator of the skin jobs in Blade Runner. Was also in Paths of Glory. Jiminy.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:20 PM (+Tibp)

184 Has anyone seen Midsommar?

I'm curious but the same director also did last year's Hereditary which was boring as fuck and derivative, although it had a couple of moments of inspiration.

The director strikes me as in if those filmmakers whose only source of inspiration and artistic reference is other films.

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 09:21 PM (DgSC4)

185 Yeah, but I think Apollo 13 scared the hell out of the politicians and probably the NASA managers as well. They knew that it was only a matter of time before they lost a crew and it probably contributed to the cancellation of the Apollo program.

That's the wrong way around of looking about this. Apollo killed 3, Columbia and Challenger killed 7. The harsh climate of Mars will probably kill a high number.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (LxTcq)

186 You need to see MST 3ks sendup of this one. It's classic.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Sir, I am in your debt. I didn't know it got the MST3K treatment.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (+Tibp)

187 "Midsommar"

Wicker Man in Swedish but without Nicolas Cage. Pretty stupid. Amusing orgy scene.

I rate it three wieners out of five.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (ykYG2)

188 I sometimes get Miike mixed up with "Grudge"-director Takashi Shimizu, because I thought Miike directed "Rinne" (Reincarnation) which I really liked.

Apparently Shimizu directed a live action KIKI!!! =8-0

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (CcUfv)

189 One of the best movies about the Apollo mission is:

For All Mankind

It's a mashup of all the Apollo missions, each one taking over at the point at which it pushed further than the mission before, but done seamlessly.

NASA contracted Eno to do the score. Awesome.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:23 PM (6fsOH)

190 "You're watching Village of the Giants! "


There are no villages, except-

"The Village of the Damned"


Am I the only one that liked Carpenter's remake?

In some ways it was better than the Limey original.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:23 PM (2EMYr)

191 33 31 Kung-fu Hustle, can't forget that. Or most of Jackie Chan's movies. Or can we?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (cH3lq)


I LOVE Kung-fu Hustle.

Posted by: Insomniac


the land lady in kung fu hustle is one of the two catholic school girls from 007 the man with the golden gun. in the scene with the karate studio where the master wants to teach bond a lesson, he escapes and the local secret agent with his two school girls rescue hom. the girl with the short curly hair is the land lady in kung fu hustle.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at July 20, 2019 09:23 PM (VcFUs)

192 Beau Bridges I mean. That is one dumb movie. They blew the special effects budget on those ugly ass giant legs.

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 09:24 PM (UdKB7)

193 185
That's the wrong way around of looking about this. Apollo killed 3, Columbia and Challenger killed 7. The harsh climate of Mars will probably kill a high number.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (LxTcq)


You're absolutely right. Somebody ought to write a book about it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6lmqmox

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

194 The earlier missions like Mercury were exciting as hell to me. Crammed into that little capsule not sure if they would burn up re-entering. There would be radio silence as the Navy waited to pick them up. Then all of a sudden the capsule chutes would open and it would splash down. Navy frogmen would chase it down and jump in to inflate a flotation ring around it. One time almost drowned the astronauts. Very exciting to this kid.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:25 PM (K22Va)

195 willowed:

349 295 I have no recollection of watching the first moon landing, certainly was old enough but no idea what I was doing.
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:12 PM

I remember it vividly - I was 10 years old (giving away my age) and it was just about dusk in Arizona, my younger brother and sister were out playing in the yard. I remember going out and yelling at them to quit screwing around and GET IN HERE AND WATCH THIS because THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! My parents were amused that I was so dogmatic.

50 years ago, I already had no doubt whatsoever that this was going to be the most Historic and Important thing I was ever going to witness in my life, no matter how long I lived.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2019 09:25 PM (V2Yro)

196 That's the wrong way around of looking about this. Apollo killed 3, Columbia and Challenger killed 7. The harsh climate of Mars will probably kill a high number.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (LxTcq)


The public has no problem accepting the obvious fact that exploration requires risk and often ends in death. It's only the politicians who can't deal with this. Of course, these same politicians can't fight a war the right way or deal with actual traitors correctly, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:26 PM (6fsOH)

197 I appreciate Japanese cinema, but have grown to like Korean more. I understand Korean motives better than Japanese.

Also, the Koreans HATE the Japanese, while the Japanese hate everyone else.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:27 PM (+Tibp)

198 naturalfake--

I liked the JC version of "Village of the Damned". But he's really more of a western director than a horror director, and I feel like that helps for 90% of the movie, except the end.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:27 PM (CcUfv)

199 Watched "Eat Local" free on prime last night. A vampire horror comedy. I was hoping it was going to be somewhat like "What We Do in the Shadows," but nah.

I found it boring and I was rooting for the vampires to die.

Posted by: Gem at July 20, 2019 09:27 PM (XoAz8)

200 178
the battery back up on my modem is about to crash. maybe use my phone or
say adios. third world problem, i guess. at least the storms are over.

Do you have a USB port in your car?

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:28 PM (K22Va)

201 I sometimes get Miike mixed up with "Grudge"-director Takashi Shimizu, because I thought Miike directed "Rinne" (Reincarnation) which I really liked.

Apparently Shimizu directed a live action KIKI!!! =8-0
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (CcUfv)


I'll have to keep on the lookout for "RINNE".

I thought "The Grudge" was a very well done horror movie.


Miike did "Audition" among many others movies.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:29 PM (2EMYr)

202 My two favorite Kung Fu movies are Kung Fu Hustle and Ninja Assassin. Two totally different style of Kung Fu movie.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:30 PM (2DOZq)

203 . . . and now it's drizzling again at the Iowa Speedway. Crap.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:31 PM (wshbh)

204 Is Ringu better than The Ring? I liked The Ring.

Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)

205 One time almost drowned the astronauts.


Gus Grissom. Scuttlebutt is that he panicked and blew his hatch too soon. It did sink his capsule. He lived, for a while.

They named the next capsule the Unsinkable Molly Brown.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (fuK7c)

206 200: nope. everything but that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (KP5rU)

207 I watched a documentary on high altitude ballooning which definitely helped with the space missions.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)

208 Thanks for the movie suggestion, will look up 'Shadow'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (xJa6I)

209 the Koreans HATE the Japanese

I do see their point. The US helped them rebuild, ensured general Korean literacy, and so the Koreans as a people were able to learn their own history. Which the Japanese ...

... well, they'd not been QUITE so magnanimous when they were protecting their 'little brothers'.

So when the Koreans learnt exactly what had almost been permanently taken from them, I could see how they'd feel betrayed.

[And then there were all the 1930s-40s rapes of course.]

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:36 PM (ykYG2)

210 Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)

I liked Let Me In better than the Swedish? version.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:37 PM (2DOZq)

211 Zigeunerweisen

https://youtu.be/qsB-A04vfAo

Kung Fu Hustle chase at 6:48

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:37 PM (LxTcq)

212 because the sort of super-heroic character implicit in the flying hero would've undermined the need for a solid battle strategy.
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I've been watching a Chinese series on Netflix that has an interesting take on the hero-type of character. It's called "King's War", and it's about the fall of the Qin Dynasty and the establishment of the Han Dynasty. The primary contrast in the series is between two different leads. On the one hand, you've got Xiang Yu, who is the heroic-type who leads from the front and almost single-handedly turns back enemy armies (played by Peter Ho, who also played the very similar - albeit less successful - Lu Bu in "Three Kingdoms"). Heroic in this instance doesn't necessarily mean he's a nice guy. But he's a valiant warrior who's very, very good at fighting battles.

His counter-part is Liu Bang, whose surname you might recognize if you're familiar with the Three Kingdoms era (there's a rather obvious reason for that...). He's not a coward. But he's also not the absolute combat monster that Xiang Yu is. And part of the dynamic of the series is watching the development of the two characters. On the one hand, you have the heroic and headstrong Xiang Yu, whom everyone expects great things from. On the other hand, you have the more unassuming Liu Bang. Yes, he started out as a farmer. But he's loyal to his friends. And between this loyalty and his not so obvious intelligence, leadership, and eye for talent, he ends up being repeatedly underestimated by those who aren't personally close to him.

At one point, the campaign has ended, and a respected veteran leaves gets his discharge from Xiang Yu's army. He promptly joins Liu Bang's army because, as he puts it, Xiang Yu is the hero, and he doesn't need anyone else. That's not the case with Liu Bang.


Incidentally, one of the scenes (which is based off of an historical incident) has Liu Bang escorting some prisoners to a Qin work camp for a manual labor assignment. A few of the prisoners escape on the way. And since the punishment for escaping prisoners is the execution of *everyone* in the party...

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:37 PM (Fp6vo)

213 I remember collecting all of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo mission badges. When I was young, I knew the names of every mission.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2019 09:38 PM (V2Yro)

214 The Koreans take their revenge in Japan by owning all the Pachinko betting parlors.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:38 PM (2DOZq)

215 well, that looks like a hot mess.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 20, 2019 09:39 PM (JziUy)

216 Gus Grissom. Scuttlebutt is that he panicked and blew his hatch too soon. It did sink his capsule. He lived, for a while.

Tough way to go. Those guys were badasses.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:40 PM (K22Va)

217
Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)

read the book
watch the film
watched the Hollywood remake

they are all good

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 09:42 PM (dm05u)

218 Japanese manga and anime is sold to a foreign market, so although there be an element of Japanese patriotism, the writers tend not to piss off the rest of the world too much.

I've noticed the supporting characters tend to the multiracial, at least in terms of hapa Japanese-European mixes. As long ago as Space Battleship Yamato [Star Bl00zrs] this was the case.

A lot of manga is full-on European : Attack On Titan, Tanya The Evil etc. Especially the 'isekai' genre. The Japanese do like their blondes. . .

One exception is "Gate: Where The JSDF Fought". That was overtly nationalistic.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:43 PM (ykYG2)

219 Is Ringu better than The Ring? I liked The Ring.

Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)


I think "Ringu" is much better than "The Ring".

Admittedly, I saw "Ringu" first not knowing anything about it.

And, man, did the big reveal scene creep me out.

In "The Ring" they keep cutting back and forth between the big reveal and some other stuff, like an action movie. That undercuts the horror.

The American version of ""Lat den ratte komma in" is okay.

It's problem is that the screen writer and director don't seem to understand the story.

The original is subtle but makes it clear by the end that the girl is simply looking for another minion to replace her old one.

And that the boy has become her slave.

In the American version, They're off for Wacky Vampire Adventures!!!

It's not a story of liberation but enslavement.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:44 PM (2EMYr)

220 "Yeah, but I think Apollo 13 scared the hell out of the politicians and
probably the NASA managers as well. They knew that it was only a matter
of time before they lost a crew and it probably contributed to the
cancellation of the Apollo program."
The politicians were only interested in beating the Soviets and demonstrating the power of American government. The Apollo program was being wound down even before Armstrong set foot on the moon.

https://tinyurl.com/y5gkyzja

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 20, 2019 09:45 PM (U1ZWs)

221 That Grissom, always splashing and playing in the water.

https://stoatnet.org/a1pool.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 09:46 PM (t+qrx)

222 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:46 PM (LxTcq)

223 naturalflake @ 219- If that little boy ever goes to sleep around her he'll quickly find out what kind of friends the are.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (UUkQp)

224 I watched a documentary on high altitude ballooning which definitely helped with the space missions.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)


Was it the ESPN 30-for-30 about Nick Piantanida (Angry Sky)? That was a good show. Very interesting guy. A one-man space program.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (6fsOH)

225 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts

Those three lads who went under Chernobyl to turn the water off might want a word with you.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:48 PM (ykYG2)

226 Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:44 PM (2EMYr)

also, iirc the Hollywood version doesn't make clear the little girl is not a girl

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 09:48 PM (dm05u)

227 In the movie Commando Cody and Radar Men from the Moon, Commando Cody goes to the moon to see what the Radar Men are up to.

He's the first guy to ever go to the moon, so this is a big whoop, right?

When he returns, he is met by.......2 cops in a squad car !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (arJlL)

228 In the American version, They're off for Wacky Vampire Adventures!!!

It's not a story of liberation but enslavement.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:44 PM (2EMYr)

That's not the vibe I got at all.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (2DOZq)

229
There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts

....

Those three lads who went under Chernobyl to turn the water off might want a word with you.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo



Garrett Smith as the Three Mile Island maid-janitor would like a word with you.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (qe9rM)

230 207 I watched a documentary on high altitude ballooning which definitely helped with the space missions.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)


This is a very good book about those 1950s and 60s balloon programs.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyvsszey

Yes, they certainly did influence the design of space suits and pressure vessels. They also more or less invented the concept of "Mission Control" on the ground directing the flight. Before that, aviators were more like solo adventurers doing whatever they wanted.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (sdi6R)

231 boulder t'hobo--

I've heard that the American "Let The Right One In" is okay but not as good as the original.

I think the first movie review I posted here this year was about the patriotic Korean underground movement to save the language. I recommend it.

Mal-Mo-E: The Secret Mission

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2019/03/09/mal-mo-e-the-secret-mission/

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:50 PM (CcUfv)

232 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:46 PM (LxTcq)


Your average pioneer family who went west was just as brave. And they didn't get any fame or glory, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:51 PM (6fsOH)

233 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts

....

Those three lads who went under Chernobyl to turn the water off might want a word with you.



Pffff.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Gynocologist at July 20, 2019 09:51 PM (oVJmc)

234 I interpreted the Swede version that, indeed, the vampire had got him/her self a new host to parasite off of.

I'll have to watch the Hollywood version at some point, because, like I said, I haven't yet.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:52 PM (ykYG2)

235 @209 I do see their point. The US helped them rebuild, ensured general Korean literacy, and so the Koreans as a people were able to learn their own history. Which the Japanese ...

... well, they'd not been QUITE so magnanimous when they were protecting their 'little brothers'.

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There's a Korean series on Netflix that is illuminating on this account. It's called "Mr. Sunshine", and it's primarily set in Korea during the first decade of the 20th Century. The male lead was a boy who was born as a slave in Korea, escaped to the US, joined the Marines (and fought in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War), and has now returned to Korea as a captain on assignment with the US legation. The rising power of Japan in Korea is one of the constant themes of the show, with increasing levels of brutality and contempt toward the native Korean population as time goes on in the series. If you don't know why Koreans dislike the Japanese, you will after watching this series.

One interesting thing about the series is that even though it's a Korean show set in Korea, everyone speaks in the appropriate language. So if two Korean-speakers are talking, they speak in Korean. If two Americans are speaking, the spoken dialog is in English. If a Japanese character is speaking with another Asian character, they speak in Japanese. There's even a French character who has a few lines here and there in French.

The version of the show on American Netflix has English sub-titles where appropriate.

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:52 PM (Fp6vo)

236

Garrett Smith as the Three Mile Island maid-janitor would like a word with you.



Garrett Morris?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

237 I read a review of Chernobyl that claimed that the three guys that went to shut the water off (or on, I don't remember which) was totally made up. Never happened. Bummed me out.

Also, it claimed the Bridge of Death was baloney.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:54 PM (+Tibp)

238
Garrett Morris?


Senile.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 09:54 PM (qe9rM)

239 Was it the ESPN 30-for-30 about Nick Piantanida (Angry Sky)? That was a good show. Very interesting guy. A one-man space program.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (6fsOH)

No not that one. I think the doc was called Spacemen .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:54 PM (2DOZq)

240 the Bridge Of Death was bullshit but I think those three guys were real, or real-enough.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:55 PM (ykYG2)

241 >>>
Your average pioneer family who went west was just as brave. And they didn't get any fame or glory, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:51 PM (6fsOH)
---

They got a nation.

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 09:55 PM (c8xLq)

242 anyway, Vlad Pooty Poot says he is going to finance a new Chernobyl movie that will totally tell the real story.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (ykYG2)

243 Garrett Morris?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

When SNL was funny. Garret Morris on the news segment asked the question of the Rolling Stone's "Some Girls" and the black women who like to hump all night.....

Where is these women at?......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (Z+IKu)

244 @218 Japanese manga and anime is sold to a foreign market, so although there be an element of Japanese patriotism, the writers tend not to piss off the rest of the world too much.

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Depends to an extent on the writer. For instance, I strongly suspect that Shirow Masamune (Ghost in the Shell, Appleseed, etc...) doesn't like the US all that much. American appearances in the manga tend to be unflattering at best (particularly in Appleseed). And in the Ghost in the Shell manga, the sole Soviet appearance was fairly friendly.

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (Fp6vo)

245 Was it the ESPN 30-for-30 about Nick Piantanida (Angry Sky)? That was a good show. Very interesting guy. A one-man space program.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (6fsOH)

ESPN 300 for 30

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (/0HPZ)

246 Hairyback--

The great setup for that bit was that it looked like it was going to be a rant about racism.

But the =funny= was way more important than the =woke= back then.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (CcUfv)

247 I never did like that Tang crap or sputnik candy with the little beads in it.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (K22Va)

248 there's a Hollywood vampire movie, with a different premise and plot,that nonetheless reminded me of " Lat den ratte komma in"
Byzantium with Saoirse Ronan & Gemma Aterton
I think it was the sense of the unending bleakness of a vampire 's unlife

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (dm05u)

249 I never did like that Tang crap or sputnik candy with the little beads in it.

Did the beads come out in yer poop ?

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (arJlL)

250 never did like that Tang crap

Well screw you.

Posted by: empress wu at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (ykYG2)

251 Remember SPACE FOOD STICKS?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (oVJmc)

252 @250 never did like that Tang crap

Well screw you.
Posted by: empress wu at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (ykYG2)

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You apparently didn't like the Tang, either, since you changed the dynasty name to Jin when you took the throne...

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (Fp6vo)

253 I think it was the sense of the unending bleakness of a vampire 's unlife

"Ho-hum, another day, another neck"

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (arJlL)

254 Did the beads come out in yer poop ?

Forgot to look.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (K22Va)

255 anyway, Vlad Pooty Poot says he is going to finance a new Chernobyl movie that will totally tell the real story.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (ykYG2)


Chernobyl Diaries was a fun movie. I liked the tour guide ... while he lasted.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (6fsOH)

256 never did like that Tang crap or sputnik candy with the little beads in it.
Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (K22Va)

Heh. Right now Tang is my crack drink. The liquid Tang Orange-pineapple flavor. That's all I drink.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (2DOZq)

257 Ovaltine > Tang

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (dm05u)

258 >>>Did the beads come out in yer poop ?

Forgot to look.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (K22Va)


Ghandi never forgot.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (6fsOH)

259 Up too late so it's hasta huevos mis amigos.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (UUkQp)

260 In the American version, They're off for Wacky Vampire Adventures!!!

I don't know how you reached that conclusion. The ending was disturbing and sad because it was clear he was now trapped into serving the vampire, just as his predecessor had.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (NWiLs)

261 Ovaltine > Tang

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (dm05u)


Bzzzt!

Ovaltine was something you fed birds you didn't like.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (6fsOH)

262 Then along came Barky, eclipsing every single thing ever.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (RuIsu)

263 The great setup for that bit was that it looked like it was going to be a rant about racism.
But the =funny= was way more important than the =woke= back then.
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (CcUfv)

Exactly right! Garrett made me laugh when he took his glasses off and asked that question.

Funny guy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (Z+IKu)

264 SpaceLab was the next step, put that together then leap frog farther. But they hated Nixon were loath for his name to be associated with it.

The commies (Dems, WaPo, NYT) hated Nixon because he busted Hiss. They said we spend all this money on space and nothing for the poor.

Defunded.

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (c8xLq)

265 Fearless Vampire Killers

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 10:09 PM (c8xLq)

266 I thought House of Flying Daggers had some neat visual stuff, but very few likeable characters and that sort of vague, hand-wavey aspect of "yeah sure this is... yeah... some time in the past... or some shit like that" that seems to get amplified by modern Chinese political concerns.


Now, that's not to say films from other markets don't have the same deal; it's common from Bollywood, plus I'm sure we can all name off a dozen tropey medieval-ey Hollywood efforts - but the Chinese entertainment is already facing an uphill battle with a lot of off-putting cultural things that sometimes come through in their work.

Occasionally I see Chinese revenge plots and think of that episode of South Park where Cartman kills a kid's parents and feeds them to him. Like, hey, this lady slighted me at a banquet, so lets burn her house down, frame her for murder, and poison all of her maids. That sort of thing. And you're obviously expected to cheer them on.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at July 21, 2019 03:16 AM (67XdO)

267 "Weaponized umbrellas? Then we shall fight in the shade!"

Posted by: Socratease at July 21, 2019 11:49 AM (2GbWn)

Saturday Afternoon Chess Thread 07-20-2019


WIM Jennifer Shahade 02.jpg
WIM Jennifer Shahade


Pic Note

Yes, I know this is a repeat chess babe, but I finally found a photo of Ms. Shahade I really like. But don't worry, there are lots of other chess babes you'll be seeing here in the weeks ahead. In fact, every time I go looking, I always seem to find new chess babes I've never heard of. I think they're breeding them faster than I can show them.

Moviegique will be around later with his latest movie review. And as always, the chess/dress pr0n thread is an open thread, so there is no such thing as an off-topic comment.


Easier Problem - White To Play (1018 )

Goal: Find the forced mate in 4
Hint: Black is threatening mate in two, so White had better act accordingly.


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R7/1ppk2p1/4r2p/1P3Q2/4P3/1nppq3/6PP/7K w - - 0 1





I guess today is International Chess Day. I'm not sure how we should be celebrating International Chess Day, but it did give me an excuse to show another chess babe. Maybe there should be an International Chess Babe Day.



More Challenging Problem - White To Play (963)

The walls are closing in on Black. What is the most efficient way for White to FINISH HIM and what is Black's best line of defense?

Goal: Some lines result in a quick mate, but one allows Black to draw it out some
Hint: Beware, Black is within a hair's breadth of counterattacking on the back rank.


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3q2k1/1R3b2/3p1bN1/2p2Q2/8/6P1/5P1P/6K1 w - - 0 1



Dress Pr0n For The 'Ettes:

20190720 dress pr0n 01.jpg
The Tambourine Player by Carl Schweninger, Jr., circa late 19th Century




20190720 dress pr0n 02.jpg




20190720 dress pr0n mad men.jpg




20190720 dress pr0n 03.jpg




20190720 dress pr0n kate.jpg




20190720 dress pr0n kate2.jpg
Bonus Kate: Wimbledon 2019




20190720 dress pr0n belarus.jpg
Greetings From Belarus




20190720 dress pr0n melania.jpg

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Solutions Update

Easier Problem - White To Play


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R7/1ppk2p1/4r2p/1P3Q2/4P3/1nppq3/6PP/7K w - - 0 1

1.Qd5+ Ke7

Not 1...Rd6 because 2.Qf7#

2.Qd8+ Kf7
3.Qf8+ Kg6
4.Qf5#


More Challenging Problem - White To Play


20190720 - Problem 2.jpg
3q2k1/1R3b2/3p1bN1/2p2Q2/8/6P1/5P1P/6K1 w - - 0 1

1.Nh8!

1...Bxh8 leads to the immediate 2.Qxf7#

1...Ba2 or anywhere else allows the rook and queen to link up on the seventh rank: 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Rf7+ Bxf7 (3...Ke8 4.Qg8#) 4.Qxf7#.

1...Qe8 is probably the best first move for Black.

With this moves, Black threateans a counterattack starting with Qe1+, hoping for some sort of perpetual check, or maybe more, if he can bring his bishops into play.

2. Rxf7 Qxf7
3. Nxf7 Kxf7
4. Qd7+ Kg8

If Black tries to hold onto everything with 4...Be7, then White just brings his king up, Kg2-f3-e4 etc. White can now simplify to a won endgame:

5. Qxd6 Bd4
6. Kf1 Kf7
7. f4 Ke8
8. Ke2 Bg1
9. h3 Bd4
10. Kd3 Bg1
11. Kc4 Kf7
12. Qxc5 Bxc5
13. Kxc5 and wins.


Hope to see you all next week!


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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and paste it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.


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Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:26 PM (vWMNq)

2 I hope Jennifer likes Corgis.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:27 PM (vWMNq)

3

You got it made in the Shahade.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 05:28 PM (aKsyK)

4 Hot

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2019 05:28 PM (RuIsu)

5 The lady in front of the cactus would probably like some air conditioning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:29 PM (ycWCI)

6

Racine woman about to blow her nose with a big HONK!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 05:29 PM (aKsyK)

7 Chess babes were definitely not a thing when I was young.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 05:29 PM (sdi6R)

8 Ah, the Chest Thread.


Er, chess.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 05:31 PM (oVJmc)

9 Kate always looks stunning. Melanie.. that goes without saying. My son has a friend who seriously looks exactly like the first pic.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 05:32 PM (dUJdY)

10 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 05:32 PM (arJlL)

11 the BBC asks: why are games which trick marks suckers gamers into paying thousands of pounds on microtransactions, billed as suitable for children?
bbc.com/news/technology-48925623

Back in the day, child-friendly bands like the New Kids On The Block and The Bangles set up pay-phone lines which stupid kids called, costing their parents thousands. (The Bangles at least canceled their line pretty soon after setting it up, to their credit.) A lot of sex lines did this too - of course, these weren't for kids, but horny teenagers stole their parents' credit cards.

Why are game developers allowed to do this?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:32 PM (ykYG2)

12 The lady in front of the cactus would probably like some air conditioning.

That's a prickly pear. She's gonna need more than air conditioning.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 05:33 PM (dUJdY)

13 Chess babes were definitely not a thing when I was young.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 05:29 PM (sdi6R)


Same here. They were rare, and when I did happen to see one, they always seemed to look like Leonid Brezhnev.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:34 PM (wo+B3)

14 Lady in front of the cactus is carrying a really cute purse. Me want.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:34 PM (jm1YL)

15 8 Ah, the Chest Thread.


Er, chess.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 05:31 PM (oVJmc)

Same difference.
https://tinyurl.com/y57bm8pb

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:34 PM (ycWCI)

16 *flips over chess board, steals your lunch money*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 05:36 PM (kQs4Y)

17 A new Asian model with a lovely flowery dress..... much approve!!

Posted by: Lump at July 20, 2019 05:36 PM (1nTgm)

18 I never watched Mad Men. Was January Jones' character always so annoyed?

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:36 PM (jm1YL)

19 14 Lady in front of the cactus is carrying a really cute purse. Me want.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:34 PM (jm1YL)


Is that what it is? I thought it looked like a little lunch box.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:36 PM (wo+B3)

20 Easier Problem.

1. Qd5+ Ke7 (if Rd6 2. Qf7#)
2. Qd8+ Kf7
3. Qf8+ Kg6
4. Qf5#

Check goal. Ok.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:37 PM (vWMNq)

21 Jim Sterling isn't that interesting this week (last week he was kicking ass) so, Yong Yea reports on Sean Murray, 'No Man's Sky Director Thinks Anthem & Fallout 76 Should Stay Silent After Disastrous Launch' :
youtube.com/watch?v=b3rPWxg46Uo

I can see why Murray might say that. I can think of at least one appropriate Yiddish word.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:37 PM (ykYG2)

22 ady in front of the cactus is carrying a really cute purse. Me want.
Posted by: Tuna

I love the dress, alas, I'm too old for that now.

Posted by: Infidel at July 20, 2019 05:37 PM (BLFnH)

23 Chess Thread Foshizzle!

Cactus Lady looks like she needs to be saved from a prickly pear or two.

Fourteen dolla make you holla.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 05:39 PM (Z+IKu)

24
Why are game developers allowed to do this?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo

======

It's insane. A friend of mine set up X-box or whatever for her kids, and unbeknownst to her, these pop-ups come up in various games asking something like "Do you want to enhance your powers?" or "Do you want to buy extra fuel?" and a YES is an instant transaction against the (credit card!!!!) account that was necessary to set up X-box to begin with. These might have even been default settings, where the parent has to actively turn OFF these transactions. Her two little kids had no idea what they were doing, so of course they're buying shyt left and right, and she didn't realize it until her credit card bill came in. She managed to call whomever and get out of it, but I bet she was lucky.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 05:39 PM (13CQC)

25 Does America have its own homegrown version or maybe regional versions of the "greetings from..." dresses?

Posted by: Downcast at July 20, 2019 05:39 PM (+6VtM)

26 I haven't played chess in a long damn time; not since college, when I would routinely play in the evenings at places I used to hang out at with fellow history nerds.

(By the way, I never tire of seeing the images of Kate Middleton. She is just so bloody hot.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 05:39 PM (rxWk4)

27 Problem 1:

1. Qd5+ Ke7
2. Qd8+ Kf7
3. Qf8+ Kg6
4. Qf5#

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 05:40 PM (sdi6R)

28 18 I never watched Mad Men. Was January Jones' character always so annoyed?
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:36 PM (jm1YL)


I never watched it, either. I'm just hoovering up the dress pics from it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:40 PM (wo+B3)

29 Any recommendations for chess apps? I got an iPhone if that helps any.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 05:40 PM (rxWk4)

30 I have always admired Kate as an attractive woman.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 05:41 PM (q1BC2)

31 "greetings from Appalachia c. 1920"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2019 05:41 PM (1g7ch)

32 also, here is Bethesda on Fallout 76, breaking their own game and putting in a bunch more microtransactions. Sterling and Yong Yea both mentioned this but I'm going with Yong :
youtube.com/watch?v=IFJCNnsFe_I

Why people are still playing this broken horrible game I don't know; at least Murray fixed No Man's Sky, where Bethesda seems determined just to outright spank its own customers with every patch.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:41 PM (ykYG2)

33 Me like Melania's blue dress!

Posted by: IC at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (CiHM8)

34 Since there is no going off thread, you have to see this short thread. It is about the just released court proceedings in the Micheal Flynn FARA violations case.

Short story, the government is admitting that they can't even describe to the jury what law Flynn actually broke if any.

https://tinyurl.com/y3pvz2zo

If you thought the Flynn prosecution was a frame up, you win!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (K/2j/)

35 21 Jim Sterling isn't that interesting this week (last week he was kicking ass) so, Yong Yea reports on Sean Murray, 'No Man's Sky Director Thinks Anthem & Fallout 76 Should Stay Silent After Disastrous Launch' :
youtube.com/watch?v=b3rPWxg46Uo

I can see why Murray might say that. I can think of at least one appropriate Yiddish word.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:37 PM (ykYG2)

Sterling has gotten me to not ever watch his videos after his non sequitur rants about capitalism.

As far as Fallout 76 and Anthem, they were both hyped games from beloved developers that were undercooked and shoved out in front of people. No Man's Sky was an over-promised pile of crap from a first time developer. You get burned on one of those you just write the guy off.

Bioware and Bethesda are used to actually having some heft and favor with people- of course they have to respond. That they have done so pretty fumble fingered kind of shows why they are not quite so beloved now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (ycWCI)

36 Almost gave up on the thread.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (BbGew)

37 Duchess Kate has added some much needed some good looks into that inbred Windsor gene pool.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:43 PM (jm1YL)

38
I never watched Mad Men. Was January Jones' character always so annoyed?
Posted by: Tuna

=======

Spoiler warning










I watched about half of it, and Betty Draper was indeed frustrated, exasperated, doped up, repressed, unable to articulate her wishes until the very end when she forthrightly insisted she be allowed to DIE, etc. Yeah, that pic is a pretty good representation of her character.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 05:43 PM (13CQC)

39 25 Does America have its own homegrown version or maybe regional versions of the "greetings from..." dresses?

Posted by: Downcast at July 20, 2019 05:39 PM (+6VtM)


Huh. I've never thought about that, but it's a good question. We're such mutts and bastard offspring, there might not be such a thing, even regionally. I.e. what's a typical dress for New England? See what I mean? Southern, maybe? I don't know.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:43 PM (wo+B3)

40 Video games are ruining our youth
I like to play Starcraft2

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 20, 2019 05:44 PM (FTPVM)

41 What country is Shahade from?

UAE?

Posted by: Jim Lahey at July 20, 2019 05:44 PM (S7WbR)

42 Harry Mudd would never use a woman for chess.

Posted by: Stickpussy at July 20, 2019 05:45 PM (TUTSB)

43 Is the chess thread still an open thread?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 05:45 PM (q1BC2)

44 When I was using Mac OS, I used Sigma Chess. Besides playing against the computer, it allowed me to set up positions and paste FEN notation, etc.

Now that I'm using Linux Mint, I found PyChess which allows me to do the same thing. I'm still trying to get the hang of it, though.

In my #27 comment, I set up the position and played White and let the computer play Black.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 05:45 PM (sdi6R)

45 Short story, the government is admitting that they can't even describe to the jury what law Flynn actually broke if any.

https://tinyurl.com/y3pvz2zo

If you thought the Flynn prosecution was a frame up, you win!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (K/2j/)


Sounds to me like Flynn is due some compensatory damages. Only question is, does he have the resources to hire lawyers who can compel the government to pay up?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:45 PM (wo+B3)

46 Does America have its own homegrown version or maybe regional versions of the "greetings from..." dresses?

***

Boring stuff made boringer on purpose because prune-faces. So FLDS homespun monochromatic prairie dresses are representative, followed by Amish, Quaker, etc non-variations.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 05:46 PM (z2W2E)

47 43 Is the chess thread still an open thread?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 05:45 PM (q1BC2)


It always is.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:46 PM (wo+B3)

48 problem 1
1. Qf7 Kd6 (if Re7 then Qd6 ++)2. Rd8 Ke53. Qf5++

Posted by: steve at July 20, 2019 05:46 PM (TTy55)

49 Clue is available on Amazon Prime video.

Do I need to recommend it? Should be up there with the other Moron hall of famers like Blazing Saddles and Airplane!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:47 PM (ycWCI)

50
Duchess Kate has added some much needed some good looks into that inbred Windsor gene pool.
Posted by: Tuna

======

So did Diana, but alas, the Windsor horse-teeth and heavy lower face prevailed in her older son. Good thing for the Windsors that she slept with her handsome bodyguard and produced Harry. jk but still.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 05:47 PM (13CQC)

51 Southern, maybe? I don't know.

**

Has a classic look too frilly now though. Empire waists are part of it I think

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 05:47 PM (z2W2E)

52 (if Re7 then Qd5++)

Posted by: steve at July 20, 2019 05:47 PM (TTy55)

53 JackStraw, sounds like Flynn's new lawyer is worth her weight in gold.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 05:48 PM (BZzXD)

54 Chess Babe Face's must be wearing thin!

https://youtu.be/PO2iA9VCBRk

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 05:48 PM (S7WbR)

55 More Challenging Problem

1. Rd7 Qe8
2. Qxf6 Qxd7 (2. ... Bxg6 3. Qg7#)
3. Qh8#

On move if the Q moves anywhere else then white has the same moves and if black does not move the Q (say, to attack the white Q) then Rxd8+ saves his Q.

Better for black:

1. Rd7 Bxg6
2. Rxd8+ Bxd8
3. Qxg6+

and white has Q vs B which is an easy win.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:48 PM (vWMNq)

56 >>Sounds to me like Flynn is due some compensatory damages. Only question is, does he have the resources to hire lawyers who can compel the government to pay up?

Gotta believe there are a few lawyers who would take it on contingency. The free advertising alone would be worth millions.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:48 PM (K/2j/)

57 That Asian gal. I approve.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (/nBll)

58 O wait and southern belle stuff

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (z2W2E)

59 I thought it looked like a little lunch box.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:36 PM (wo+B3)

Early 1950's. cute little boxy purses were the rage when I was in high school and college.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (u5LFV)

60 On move *one* ... argh...

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (vWMNq)

61 Clue is such a great movie:

1) Retro themed.

2) Stunning cast.

3) Actually tried something new with the different endings in different showings (A, B, and C) when released.

The sad thing is, while the movie concept was stolen from an old board game, the actual movie was kind of innovative.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (ycWCI)

62 I am glad to see Flynn got an actual lawyer this time. How did he end up with Lionel Hutz last time?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (ykYG2)

63 I watched about half of it,
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 05:43 PM (13CQC)


I tried to watch it. Gave up after about an episode and a half. The characters did not interest me in the slightest.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:50 PM (wo+B3)

64 >>JackStraw, sounds like Flynn's new lawyer is worth her weight in gold.

And his previous lawyer was likely corrupt. Just a short time after leaving the Flynn case he testified in court for the prosecution.

The whole thing is imploding.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:50 PM (K/2j/)

65 Just look for photos of homecoming queens. You'll find all sorts of cute girls.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:50 PM (jm1YL)

66 Early 1950's. cute little boxy purses were the rage when I was in high school and college.
Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 05:49 PM (u5LFV)

Does not mash up the soft sided packs of cigarettes.

*nods approvingly*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:51 PM (ycWCI)

67 56 Gotta believe there are a few lawyers


Didn't Sydney Powell take over Flynn's case ?

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:51 PM (vWMNq)

68
Only question is, does he have the resources to hire lawyers who can compel the government to pay up?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

=======

It seems to me the answer is always YES if the lawyers are working pro bono and contract for a percentage of any settlement.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 05:51 PM (13CQC)

69 25 Does America have its own homegrown version or maybe regional versions of the "greetings from..." dresses?
Posted by: Downcast at July 20, 2019 05:39 PM (+6VtM)

--Folsom Street Fair

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 05:51 PM (S7WbR)

70 The Tambourine Player is flashing a shocking amount of ankle!
*reaches for smelling salts*

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 05:52 PM (dm05u)

71
I tried to watch it. Gave up after about an episode and a half. The characters did not interest me in the slightest.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

======

I barely paid attention and hung in mostly for the decor and Roger's zingers. I gave up because of the characters. There's only so much self-destructiveness I can take.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 05:52 PM (13CQC)

72 If you thought the Flynn prosecution was a frame up, you win!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (K/2j/)

Sounds to me like Flynn is due some compensatory damages. Only question is, does he have the resources to hire lawyers who can compel the government to pay up?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:45 PM (wo+B3)


Malicious prosecution is OK is your NeverTrump?

It's shiite like this why I said since Day One that Trump should issue direction for DoJ to go ballz deep on violation of civil rights under color of law - appease minorities by rightously prosecuting local bad Barney for harassing/framing poor folk while setting the precedent for when the hammer falls on the big guys - all the way to the top.

Woulda coulda shoulda already put a bunch of the small group behind bars already.
Instead let's wait until this new source is interviewed.... several months later, oh , look another new witness...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2019 05:53 PM (1g7ch)

73 Problem 2:

1. Rd7 Qb6
2. Qxf6 Qb1+
3. Kg2 Qe4+
4. Kh3 Be6+

That is starting to look ugly.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 05:53 PM (sdi6R)

74 Never saw Clue, use to play the game often

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 05:53 PM (BbGew)

75 If you thought the Flynn prosecution was a frame up, you win!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:42 PM (K/2j/)

Anyone with one functioning brain cell should have known that from the beginning.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 05:54 PM (u5LFV)

76 Thanks OM.

So Baltimore's new Police chief has brought in several hand selected new members to assist in Baltimores attempt to turn the tide on crime.

Don't know how well that is gonna work out.
But I gotta think that for some of the new members, it's gotten personal.


https://cbsloc.al/2xY9kMj

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 05:54 PM (q1BC2)

77 >>Didn't Sydney Powell take over Flynn's case ?

She and some others although she gets the headlines. But this is for the criminal part. If he sues for some sort of damages, not sure if he even can because it's the government, I would imagine he would want a specialist for that.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:54 PM (K/2j/)

78 I'm losing it. I took my evening medicine this morning by mistake, and tonight at dinner I put ketchup on my salad.

Senioritis, I guess.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 05:54 PM (GaOgf)

79 49 Clue is available on Amazon Prime video.

Do I need to recommend it? Should be up there with the other Moron hall of famers like Blazing Saddles and Airplane!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2019 05:47 PM (ycWCI)

--Will have to catch.

Jane Wiedlin has the best cameo.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 05:54 PM (S7WbR)

80 >>Anyone with one functioning brain cell should have known that from the beginning.

Knowing is one, proving is something else.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:55 PM (K/2j/)

81 48 problem 1
1. Qf7 Kd6 (if Re7 then Qd6 ++)2. Rd8 Ke53. Qf5++
Posted by: steve at July 20, 2019 05:46 PM (TTy55)


Instead of 2...Ke5, Black can play 2...Kc5. Now what?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:55 PM (wo+B3)

82 I hate lawfare with the heat of a million Heather Grahams.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 05:56 PM (knDqF)

83 and they found some FINE witnesses, like George Nader, who kidnapped a 14 year old boy into the US. A man of better character, you won't find anywhere else.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:56 PM (ykYG2)

84 65 Just look for photos of homecoming queens. You'll find all sorts of cute girls.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:50 PM (jm1YL)

--Except for that Utah chick full of hate for culturally appropriating China at her prom!!11!!!111!!!!!11!

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 05:57 PM (S7WbR)

85 73
Problem 2:



1. Rd7 Qb6

2. Qxf6 Qb1+

3. Kg2 Qe4+

4. Kh3 Be6+



That is starting to look ugly.
----

2. Qb6 Qg4 threatens discovered check and stop Qe4+

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 05:57 PM (vWMNq)

86 " and tonight at dinner I put ketchup on my salad. "

Just chop up some hot dogs into the salad.

It'll be fine.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 05:57 PM (q1BC2)

87 Maybe there should be an International Chess Babe Day.

OM, you got this!

Posted by: tbodie at July 20, 2019 05:57 PM (exNvx)

88 I smell another delay in the Mueller testimony.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 05:57 PM (BZzXD)

89 --Folsom Street Fair
Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 05:51 PM (S7WbR)


"Greetings from San Francisco"?

Uh, no.
Nobody wants to look at pics of inflated scrotums.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:58 PM (wo+B3)

90 I watched one episode of Mad Men's first season. Did not like the characters. Unpleasant cheating a**es. My sister and mom loved the show. To each his own.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:58 PM (jm1YL)

91 I'm losing it. I took my evening medicine this morning by mistake, and tonight at dinner I put ketchup on my salad.

Hope the medicine thing didn't cause a problem. So...how was the ketchup on the salad?? I've done worse..old age ain't all it's cracked up to be is it?

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 05:58 PM (dUJdY)

92 old age ain't all it's cracked up to be is it?
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 05:58 PM (dUJdY)


Old age is not for sissies, either.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 05:59 PM (GaOgf)

93 "Old age is not for sissies, either."


Ain' t that the truth.
Not a small number of folk die from it every year.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:00 PM (q1BC2)

94 Just chop up some hot dogs into the salad.

Throw it some chili. Worse things have been done.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 06:01 PM (dUJdY)

95 83 and they found some FINE witnesses, like George Nader, who kidnapped a 14 year old boy into the US. A man of better character, you won't find anywhere else.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 05:56 PM (ykYG2)


Well, maybe in Congress...

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:01 PM (wo+B3)

96 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:00 PM (q1BC2)

This is when your investment in health insurance pays off.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 06:01 PM (GaOgf)

97 Hey! He was seventeen, not fourteen!

Posted by: Gerry Studds at July 20, 2019 06:01 PM (ykYG2)

98 76 It seems Philadelphia Thought Patrol is trying to fire 75 policeman for racial bad words.
How's that for crime control?

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:02 PM (BbGew)

99 1. Rd7 Qb8
2. Qg4 Qb1+
3. Kg2 Qxg6
4. Qxg6+ Bxg6

Just the thought of trying to play that endgame makes my brain hurt.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:02 PM (sdi6R)

100 ALH, your memory is fine if you can quote- Quartet.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 06:02 PM (BZzXD)

101 One good thing about being old is that you can have ice cream without guilt.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 06:02 PM (GaOgf)

102 Knowing is one, proving is something else.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 05:55 PM (K/2j/)

This is true. But even I, a nobody piano teacher, could figure it out, so why couldn't all those fancy-pants elite lawyers?

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 06:03 PM (u5LFV)

103 94 Just chop up some hot dogs into the salad.
Throw it some chili. Worse things have been done.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 06:01 PM (dUJdY)


Don't forget the carrots.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:03 PM (wo+B3)

104 I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mad Men is overrated. Not bad, but overrated. The characters are not enticing; the narrative is "'It's a Man's World' Sucked Balls."

That said, the *look* was great; the dames were especially tasty.

Which, all in all, is a metaphor for the world of advertising itself (and, increasingly, storytelling and politics as well).

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 06:03 PM (S7WbR)

105
88 - "I smell another delay in the Mueller testimony."


He might as well get it over with but don't expect a win for either side. I remember watching him testify when he was the head of the FBI, he couldn't answer a question to save his life. He's was a figure head then and he's a figure head now, he doesn't even know what's in his own "Mueller Report".

Posted by: lowandslow at July 20, 2019 06:04 PM (Mr80f)

106 This is a lovely story of caring by a police officer for an elderly man she met while on duty:

https://tinyurl.com/y5dgwduc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 06:05 PM (+0VWg)

107 "Don't forget the carrots."

It's salad.

Carrots come with it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:05 PM (q1BC2)

108 98 76 It seems Philadelphia Thought Patrol is trying to fire 75 policeman for racial bad words.
How's that for crime control?

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:02 PM (BbGew)


I heard on the radio that Mayor Kenney was in high dudgeon about it.

Have they made the tweets public? I haven't seen them. Or are we just supposed to take their word for it that they are crimethink and are firing offenses?

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:05 PM (sdi6R)

109 Instead of 2...Ke5, Black can play 2...Kc5. Now what?Thanks...I'll go along with the already posted and correct solution then

Posted by: steve at July 20, 2019 06:06 PM (TTy55)

110 "A roll in the hay"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2019 06:06 PM (vJw+j)

111 'A croissant in a field '

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:07 PM (z2W2E)

112 ...where Bethesda seems determined just to outright spank its own customers with every patch.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo


Coke.

It's gotta be coke.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2019 06:07 PM (DrqHq)

113 Carrots come with it.

You can never have too many carrots.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 06:08 PM (dUJdY)

114 Heh, little bro had some sick shit on his computer when I was at his place one time. I punched him. This was not long after zombie mentioned it. But I'm a girl, so the standard may be different.

I told him, you wanna see sick shit? Look up Folsom Street Fair. Boy Howdy, he never had freak shit around while I was there after that.

I should send zombie flowers.

Posted by: Infidel at July 20, 2019 06:08 PM (BLFnH)

115 With PyChess I haven't figured out how to take back a move without restarting the game from the beginning.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:09 PM (sdi6R)

116 >>This is true. But even I, a nobody piano teacher, could figure it out, so why couldn't all those fancy-pants elite lawyers?

I assume they did know if they believed Flynn as we did but they might have lacked the proof they needed. One reason for that is that the government was hiding information from Flynn.

Check out Margot Cleveland's column from yesterday.

https://tinyurl.com/yxkjqzlh

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 06:10 PM (K/2j/)

117 College cheerleaders in cute little outfits would probably fit the regional dress thing.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:10 PM (jm1YL)

118 Ha ha.

Schahade you are.

Posted by: Pink Floyd at July 20, 2019 06:11 PM (gAXBD)

119 Did not like the characters. Unpleasant cheating a**es. My sister and mom loved the show. To each his own.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 05:58 PM (jm1YL)

The show was primarily written by liberal women in their 30s and 40s with no knowledge whatsoever of the advertising world of the 50s and 60s.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:11 PM (H8QX8)

120 It seems Philadelphia Thought Patrol is trying to fire 75 policeman for racial bad words.

-

Black officers too?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:11 PM (RMwSd)

121 117 College cheerleaders in cute little outfits would probably fit the regional dress thing.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:10 PM (jm1YL)

--Are you kidding?

We haven't had an Elbow Thread here in over a year.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 06:12 PM (S7WbR)

122 If you consider distinctive time periods then Bobbysoxer outfits

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:12 PM (z2W2E)

123 Herr Mueller delaying his testimony?

Isn't that obstruction by his own definition?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2019 06:13 PM (gAXBD)

124 I'm surprised the guys haven't mentioned what a nice figure the girl in the Vietnamese dress has.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:13 PM (jm1YL)

125 The girl in the Vietnamese dress has a nice figure.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:14 PM (H8QX8)

126 122 If you consider distinctive time periods then Bobbysoxer outfits
Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:12 PM (z2W2E)


Do Keds count?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 06:15 PM (GaOgf)

127 ''We haven't had an Elbow Thread here in over a year.''

See. I was thinking how much the guys miss the elbows.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:15 PM (jm1YL)

128 120 Doubt it

121 A lot longer than that

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:15 PM (BbGew)

129 haven't had an Elbow Thread here in over a year

thank Colonitis Kaepernick for crapping all over that.

There was an attempt to do college ball cheerleaders but those can look way too young. I don't want Chris Hansen at my door when I'm perusing the HQ

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:16 PM (ykYG2)

130 What is keds?

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:16 PM (z2W2E)

131 Adirondack P, not as long as he keeps huddling with the Dems.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 06:16 PM (BZzXD)

132 125 The girl in the Vietnamese dress has a nice figure.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:14 PM (H8QX


The chair is against the door.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:17 PM (wo+B3)

133 What is keds?

A brand of sneakers.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 06:17 PM (dUJdY)

134 119
The show was primarily written by liberal women in their 30s and 40s with no knowledge whatsoever of the advertising world of the 50s and 60s.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:11 PM (H8QX


I never watched it, but I didn't know that. Interesting.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:17 PM (sdi6R)

135 I don't know much about the A$AP Rocky case in Sweden that Trump is becoming embroiled in, but this sounds par for the course. Europeans are always brutal on (non-muslim) foreigners who are suspected of crimes. In America hating Western Europe, it's going to be especially bad. But even in Eastern Europe, they're still gonna fuck with you.

For an analog, in 2010, Randy Blyth of Lamb of God killed a fan at a show in CZ. The drunk guy had rushed the stage and attacked him, Blyth kicked him, he fell off the stage, and he died.

Blyth came back to the states, the Czechs asked us to pursue the case, and we declined because it was on video, and it was obviously self-defense.

Three years later, Lamb of God played another show in CZ. They immediately arrested Blyth, held him for five weeks as they investigated, and then released him because it was self-defense.

This is just the way Euros do this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2019 06:18 PM (fVY6E)

136 130 What is keds?
Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:16 PM (z2W2E)


Keds used to be a brand of shoes. Back in the day, before Nike and Adidas.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:18 PM (wo+B3)

137 IDK canonical Bobbysoxers outfits but I thought poodle skirt saddle shoes light cardigan in pastel

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:19 PM (z2W2E)

138 99
1. Rd7 Qb8

2. Qg4 Qb1+

3. Kg2 Qxg6

4. Qxg6+ Bxg6

----

1. Rd7 Qb8 (or Qb6)
2. Kg2 black now has no checks

2. ... Qb2 (must defend the f6 bishop)
3. Qg4 threatens discovered check and Bxg6 is mate in 2.

But I'm not seeing the end of this line.


Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 06:20 PM (vWMNq)

139 Probably hiphuggers for the tomboys

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:20 PM (z2W2E)

140 Huh. I've never thought about that, but it's a good question. We're such mutts and bastard offspring, there might not be such a thing, even regionally. I.e. what's a typical dress for New England? See what I mean? Southern, maybe? I don't know.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 05:43 PM (wo+B3)


Depends, really. Most of modern Europe was influenced by French designs. There was a period when the plain Dutch look was in which was also the Puritan look, and before that a lot of the look was Italianate.


But the French were inspired by places like Poland, and the Basques, which came out as odd things like the polonaise style dress and the Basque which were also changed when they came to America.

I wonder if the shirtwaist and dress is uniquely American. Which is a look I approve of.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2019 06:20 PM (vJw+j)

141 P.F. Flyers and Keds were the popular athletic shoes when I was a kid. Or as my mom called them, "tennis shoes".

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:21 PM (sdi6R)

142 ''Keds used to be a brand of shoes. Back in the day, before Nike and Adidas.''

They still are. Making a comeback. Lots of cute styles to choose from.

I remember getting my summer keys when I was a kid. You had a choice between navy or red. You could move up to white as you got older. It was a big deal when you graduated from bumper toes to regular Keds. Even bigger deal if your mom let you get white ones.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:22 PM (jm1YL)

143 My wife called me in to see one scene of Mad Men. A guy was trying to commit suicide by running his car in a closed garage.

It was a Jaguar, though, so it wouldn't start.

I enjoyed that snippet very much.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:22 PM (RMwSd)

144 Keds not keys, Damn autocorrect.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:23 PM (jm1YL)

145 i remember Keds up to the 1980s and ... then ... not. The brand name is still active.

I moved to New Balance very early in the 1990s. Tried Nike in 2002ish but it busted up my feet so I moved back to NB.

I know Adidas is out there but I don't see it much.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:23 PM (ykYG2)

146 Tenyrunners as Mom called them.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2019 06:23 PM (vJw+j)

147
I need to vent about Microsoft. I've just been cleaning up a royal mess. Windows 10 has this wonderful feature called "fast startup" or "hybrid shutdown". It's supposed to make a startup after a shutdown be fast.

And it's great if you're only running one OS, have a pretty vanilla setup AND AREN'T MULTIBOOTING! That got turned on on this system somehow. Maybe an update turned it back on.

Well, I needed to shutdown. Then I booted up a Linux install. Booted Windows 10 back up. Disk corruption. Hosed an install of Visual Studio 15.

You see, with "fast shutdown", it doesn't flush filesystem buffers and stuff. The disk can be in an inbetween state. If another system comes along and tries to touch that filesystem, well, shit happens. Bad shit.

And they just turn it on without telling you.

Visual Studio 15 is an amazingly complicated piece of software, depending on a bazillion components and is thus incredibly fragile and can break in half a dozen ways.

It has taken me all day to get it back to working.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 20, 2019 06:24 PM (f1Vqw)

148 There is a VS 16.1 / 2019 now, and the Community version is free as ever to us MSDN accounts... allegedly.

I tried downloading that version today, because there's a math problem I want to work on, but it is 500 erroring over on their site.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:25 PM (ykYG2)

149 Used to see Vietnamese girls, in ao dai, riding side saddle on the backs of Honda fifties and the like. They never seemed to be hanging on, some just striking a ladylike pose with their hands in their laps.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 20, 2019 06:25 PM (C1Lsn)

150 I remember shoes with a little pocket in the side where you could keep a coin or two in order to use a payphone.

Roos maybe?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:26 PM (RMwSd)

151 ahh the penny loafer.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:26 PM (ykYG2)

152 Well, I needed to shutdown. Then I booted up a Linux install. Booted Windows 10 back up. Disk corruption. Hosed an install of Visual Studio 15.

-

I read recently that there's much speculation from intelligent people that Microsoft is either intentionally hand-grenading dual boot setups so only windows works, or - possibly worse - that their guys don't know what they're doing and it's unintentional.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:29 PM (RMwSd)

153 ''Keds used to be a brand of shoes. Back in the day, before Nike and Adidas.''

Anybody remember PF Flyers? Or Buster Brown?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:30 PM (H8QX8)

154 Used to see Vietnamese girls, in ao dai

Robert McNamara had a hand in the Chappaquiddick coverup too.

I reckon that when that sociopath went to hell, Iblis had to turn up the heat.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:30 PM (ykYG2)

155 Ok I called this week's ago. AZ Dem Sen, Kyrstin Sinema voted with the GOP on border issues

Posted by: sOME mORON at July 20, 2019 06:30 PM (Un1Gk)

156 98 76 It seems Philadelphia Thought Patrol is trying to fire 75 policeman for racial bad words.
How's that for crime control?
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:02 PM (BbGew)

Like Philly has cops to spare. They can't recruit enough good ones and so they're going to ditch these?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at July 20, 2019 06:30 PM (1FhAQ)

157 Houston, we have cleavage.

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:31 PM (c8xLq)

158 Man, I need to find out where to meet some of these chess chicks. Being the generous and gracious gentleman that I am, I'm even willing to let them win for the right wager.

Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2019 06:31 PM (kLDv+)

159 >> There is a VS 16.1 / 2019 now,

I've got those. Community is free. 2019, version 16 is the current one.

VS 2017 and onwards aren't quite as fragile. They improved it, basically using private registry hive files for each installation.

Visual Studio 2015, v 14, puts so much crap in the registry, and depends on so many complicated paths therein that it's a nightmare.

"Unidstall" doesn't. It doesn't come anywhere near removing everything. A clean install of Windows is the only remedy sometimes. Just start over.

What saved me was a tool someone wrote that would clean everything out. Or try to. I had to run it twice, but it worked and a reinstall worked. I thought I was going to have to reinstall this whole installation, but that tool saved me.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 20, 2019 06:32 PM (f1Vqw)

160 153...and Red Ball Jets. I recall being very upset that I couldn't really jump higher

Posted by: CN at July 20, 2019 06:32 PM (U7k5w)

161 Buster Browns yes. Because the store had a mosaic of buster and his dog

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:32 PM (z2W2E)

162 And a noble nose too.

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:32 PM (c8xLq)

163 This thread seems to have morphed over the years from the Chess Thread to the Chess Babe Thread to the Chest Babe With a Chess Board Somewhere in the Picture to Make It Legit Thread.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:34 PM (aXucN)

164

Trivia: What prroduct is the motto/slogan from?

"Kid Tested -- Mother Approved"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:34 PM (G0Jop)

165 We didn't have much money and I remember what a big deal it was to drive to the mall for shoes at Buster Brown.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:34 PM (RMwSd)

166 Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 20, 2019 06:25 PM (C1Lsn)

I used to date a Vietnamese chick who'd occasionally wear ao dais, but usually just the simple white ones she had from the Commie school. They were still attractive though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2019 06:35 PM (5aX2M)

167 VS 2017 and onwards aren't quite as fragile

We Microsoft grognards learnt long ago never to install ".0" of anything from them.

"Windows Seven!!" was actually 6.1 if you look at dxdiag - it was the fix to Vista. Likewise, 8.1 was the actual usable version of Windows Eight.

So I was hoping 16.1 of Visual Studio wouldn't rape me in the butt too bad.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:35 PM (ykYG2)

168 Hmmm. So far no one has commented on cactus lady's elbows.

It's like I don't even know you people.

Posted by: Emmie at July 20, 2019 06:35 PM (4HMW8)

169

Uh oh. Since I'm senile, I just forgot the answer to my own trivia question. But I'll know it if you say it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:35 PM (G0Jop)

170 It has taken me all day to get it back to working.*
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 20, 2019 06:24 PM (f1Vqw)
----------

I'm sorry.

*I had to quote this sentence because it's the only one I understood in your whole comment.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:36 PM (aXucN)

171 Trivia: What prroduct is the motto/slogan from?

"Kid Tested -- Mother Approved"

-

Acedia Hormone Therapy

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:36 PM (RMwSd)

172

Trivia #2:

What's this from?

/in a sing-song child chorus

"Ten million strong....and growing"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:36 PM (G0Jop)

173 "This thread seems to have morphed over the years from the Chess Thread to the Chess Babe Thread to the Chest Babe With a Chess Board Somewhere in the Picture to Make It Legit Thread. "

Hi bluebell !!

I use this as a proxy for the Game Thread, of blessed memory, but sometimes software, because that's what I actually do.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:36 PM (ykYG2)

174
Acedia Hormone Therapy

Posted by: Moron Robbie



I don't think so.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:37 PM (G0Jop)

175 As a youth Eve Marie Saint was not appealing
the older I get the more attractive she becomes.

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:37 PM (c8xLq)

176 I use this as a proxy for the Game Thread, of blessed memory, but sometimes software, because that's what I actually do.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 06:36 PM (ykYG2)
-------

Oh good. So you can commiserate in good faith with poor publius, since I only understood one sentence he wrote.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:37 PM (aXucN)

177 Looking up the dog
Name was To be, a pit bull. Different associations back then. Family dogs, good pals for small boys. Now small boys are good snacks for pit bulls.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:37 PM (z2W2E)

178 Trivia: What prroduct is the motto/slogan from?

"Kid Tested -- Mother Approved"
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:34 PM (G0Jop)
---------

Sears Toughskins?

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (aXucN)

179 ''Anybody remember PF Flyers? Or Buster Brown?''

I had Buster Brown shoes when I was little. Remember the fluoroscopes in shoe stores? Really going back in time.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (jm1YL)

180 Anna Rudolf smiles like a chess shire cat.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (UUkQp)

181
Sears Toughskins?


Nah, it's something you eat.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (G0Jop)

182 To be? Tige DAMNED autocorrect

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:39 PM (z2W2E)

183 160
...and Red Ball Jets. I recall being very upset that I couldn't really jump higher

Posted by: CN at July 20, 2019 06:32 PM (U7k5w)


Oh yeah, I forgot those.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

184 Those slogans are not that obscure. Kix still has that on their boxes

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (z2W2E)

185 I had Buster Brown shoes when I was little. Remember the fluoroscopes in shoe stores? Really going back in time.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (jm1YL)

Trivia: Name of Buster Brown's dog?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (H8QX8)

186
Windows (NT) version history. The NT kernel based line took over after the last Win9x/DOS based thing.

NT Workstation 4.0 was the last NT branded thing. Windows 2000 was NT 5.0. It was supposed to take over the "consumer" line, but it wasn't quite ready.

XP, which is NT 5.1, did that. Windows 2003 Server and the XP x64 versions were NT 5.2

Vista, a major change was NT 6.0. Windows 7 was NT 6.1. Windows 8 was 6.2 and 8.1 was 6.3. The later Server versions tracked those version numbers as well.

Well, with Windows 10, they changed the internal, "real" version to match the 10. Nothing but marketing crap.

NT started at version 3.1 for marketing purposes as well. so 3 = 1, and subtract two from the real version number.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (f1Vqw)

187 185 Tyke.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (C1Lsn)

188 Nah, it's something you eat.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (G0Jop


Crayons?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (t+qrx)

189

Tige

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (aKsyK)

190 Tige

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (z2W2E)

191

Trivia: Name of Buster Brown's dog?

Timmy?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (G0Jop)

192 We just got home from a BBQ party. I won a prize for listing the most songs with "Moon" in the title (I got 1. I won a big jar of Tang. Runners up got Moonpies. I think I would have rather had the Moonpies.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (aXucN)

193 ao dais, had to Bing that. Images there look pretty tasty.

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (c8xLq)

194 73
Problem 2:



[snip]


That is starting to look ugly.


----

Not so ugly.

1. Rd7 Qb6 or Qb8
2. Qxf6 Qb1+
3. Ke2 Qe4+
4. f3 Qe2+
5. Kh3 Qg1+
6. Kh4 and black is out of checks and will be mated.

So the line I have above @55 where white has Q vs B looks best for Black. He seems to be mated immediately in all other lines.

2. ... Qa8 does not work as the Q on f6 guards a1.


Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (vWMNq)

195 Watching The Dirty Dozen on TCM

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (BbGew)

196 Well, I got 18, not a sunglasses smiley.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (aXucN)

197 Name of Dudley Dorights horse

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (z2W2E)

198 >>Timmy?

Timmy is in the well.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (K/2j/)

199 185 Jasper

Posted by: Dana Perino at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (C1Lsn)

200 The 'orange' crayons totally lied to me.

Posted by: joe biden at July 20, 2019 06:43 PM (ykYG2)

201 Nah, it's something you eat.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (G0Jop

Crayons?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (t+qrx)
---------

Playdoh?

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:43 PM (aXucN)

202 Nah, it's something you eat.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:38 PM (G0Jop

Crayons?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:41 PM (t+qrx)

PASTE!

Posted by: J. Biden at July 20, 2019 06:43 PM (exNvx)

203 Trivia: Name of Buster Brown's dog?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (H8QX
---
Tige.

Ever read the old turn-of-ye-century Buster Brown comics? He was quite the imp.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 06:43 PM (kQs4Y)

204 We always had Tang as kids, no idea if they still make it.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:43 PM (BbGew)

205
Look who's mort:

Sheila Dikshit, 81, Indian politician, MP (1984-1989), Chief Minister of Delhi (1998-2013) and Governor of Kerala (2014), cardiac arrest.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:44 PM (G0Jop)

206 >>>NT started at version 3.1 for marketing purposes as well. so 3 = 1, and subtract two from the real version number.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (f1Vqw)


When do we get the version that doesn't own us?

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:44 PM (c8xLq)

207 Tige it is. It was in the jingle.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:44 PM (H8QX8)

208
Name of Dudley Dorights horse

Posted by: Total Control Racist



Belle?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:44 PM (G0Jop)

209 We always had Tang as kids, no idea if they still make it.
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:43 PM (BbGew)
--------

They do, Skip - I have a big orange jar of it on my counter. My friend had to order it from Amazon. I'm going to give some to my son to taste, he'll hate it, and I'll use the rest for cleaning the dishwasher.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:45 PM (aXucN)

210 Hmmm. RC and Moonpies.

Posted by: J. Biden at July 20, 2019 06:45 PM (exNvx)

211 204 They still make Tang, and with cheap vodka, you can pretend to be a drunk astronaut.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 20, 2019 06:45 PM (C1Lsn)

212 JackStraw at July 20, 2019 06:10 PM (K/2j/)

Thank you very much. Damn, this government is evil!

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (u5LFV)

213

Tige Andrews was a Klingon and boss of The Mod Squad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (aKsyK)

214 I'm hung up on "choosy mothers choose Jif" and can't think of anything else.

It's like when you're humming the Bewitched theme song and then try to remember how I Dream of Genie's goes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't call me whitey, commie at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (RMwSd)

215

Doesn't Metamucil taste exactly like Tang?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (G0Jop)

216 Just read a meme that Fox owns MASH and Disney bought Fox so now Max Clinger is a Disney Princess. Did Disney really buy Fox? Sorry if this is old news, meat space has been busy lately.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (vrfMC)

217 And so I said, "Czech mate, Baby!"

And she said, "Poj'me odejit do me loznice."

Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (kLDv+)

218 And once again, forgot to change the sock.

Posted by: tbodie at July 20, 2019 06:47 PM (exNvx)

219 I'm watching the Deadwood movie and taking a shot of water at each f-bomb. I might get water poisoning.

I do enjoy the rococo vulgarity.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 06:47 PM (kQs4Y)

220 Belle?

***

It's kind of a trick question

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:47 PM (z2W2E)

221

20th Century Fox, I think.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:47 PM (G0Jop)

222 I'll use the rest for cleaning the dishwasher.
Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:45 PM (aXucN)

That's about right.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:48 PM (H8QX8)

223 205
Look who's mort:

Sheila Dikshit, 81, Indian politician, MP (1984-1989), Chief Minister of Delhi (1998-2013) and Governor of Kerala (2014), cardiac arrest.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:44 PM (G0Jop)

I used to work with a guy named Dilbag. Smart engineer. I liked him. It was all I could do not to make fun of his name.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at July 20, 2019 06:49 PM (1FhAQ)

224 I do enjoy the rococo vulgarity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 06:47 PM (kQs4Y)


You've seen Deadwood Pancakes?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:49 PM (t+qrx)

225 Doesn't Metamucil taste exactly like Tang?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (G0Jop)

Better.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:49 PM (H8QX8)

226 Name of Dudley Dorights horse

Posted by: Total Control Racist


Horse.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:49 PM (wo+B3)

227 Had Metimucil once, that was enough.
If I remember will look for Tang at grocery store

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:49 PM (BbGew)

228 Horse it is. Dudley was a stump.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:50 PM (z2W2E)

229 163 This thread seems to have morphed over the years from the Chess Thread to the Chess Babe Thread to the Chest Babe With a Chess Board Somewhere in the Picture to Make It Legit Thread.
Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:34 PM (aXucN)


True. There seem to be a lot fewer morons who actually try to work the problems. I think we're down to maybe 4 or 5.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:50 PM (wo+B3)

230 What?? Overseas you can get lemon pepper, mango, and soursop Tang.

I remember orange, grape, and grapefruit.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 06:51 PM (kQs4Y)

231 Ten million strong and growing is Flintstones vitamins.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at July 20, 2019 06:51 PM (1FhAQ)

232 Got an emergency text.
Call this number, we are going to cancel your Credit Card.

The respondent was a machine that informed me I must press the #1 or my debit card would be canceled.

I don't have a debit card.

Called the Card people to give them the # so they could get the fraudster. No, it happens all the time just disregard it. Damn.

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:51 PM (c8xLq)

233 You've seen Deadwood Pancakes?
---

Huh?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (kQs4Y)

234 1. Rd7

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 20, 2019 06:42 PM (vWMNq)


Hint: this is not the correct first move.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (wo+B3)

235 From Wikipedia:

Tang is an artificially flavored drink mix that was formulated by General Foods Corporation food scientist William A. Mitchell[1] in 1957, and first marketed in powdered form in 1959.[2][3] The Tang brand is currently owned by Mondelez International, a 2012 North American company split off of Kraft Foods Inc.

Sales of Tang were poor until NASA used it on John Glenn's Mercury flight in February 1962,[4] and on subsequent Gemini missions.[5] Since then it has been closely associated with the U.S. manned spaceflight program, and created the misconception that Tang was invented for the space program.[6][7]

Tang was used by early NASA manned space flights.[8] In 1962, when Mercury astronaut John Glenn conducted eating experiments in orbit, Tang was selected for the menu;[2] it was also used during some Gemini flights, and has also been carried aboard numerous space shuttle missions. Although many soda companies sent specially-designed canned drinks into space with the crew of STS-51-F, the crew preferred to use Tang, as it could be mixed into existing water containers easily. In 2013, former NASA astronaut Buzz Aldrin said "Tang sucks."[9]

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (sdi6R)

236 I haven't cheated yet but keep looking at #1 when I get back to the top.
Like now

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (BbGew)

237
Ten million strong and growing is Flintstones vitamins.

Posted by: joncelli



You're supposed to sing it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (G0Jop)

238 In 2013, former NASA astronaut Buzz Aldrin said "Tang sucks."[9]
Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (sdi6R)
-------

We were talking about that very thing today. But apparently it was a good source of Vitamin C, so they had to have it.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 06:53 PM (aXucN)

239 Huh?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (kQs4Y)


Pretty much exactly what it says on the tin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31PLcCXD0U

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:54 PM (t+qrx)

240 You've seen Deadwood Pancakes?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:49 PM (t+qrx)


Yeah I like to eat motherf*#! Deadwood pancakes with #*@ maple syrup and with a side of %$!*% bacon.

They taste *%@! great!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 06:54 PM (wo+B3)

241 Do Keds count?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 06:15 PM (GaOgf)

Nope. Saddle shoes and white bucks.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 06:54 PM (u5LFV)

242 Called the Card people to give them the # so they could get the fraudster. No, it happens all the time just disregard it. Damn.
Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 06:51 PM (c8xLq)


It's a spoofed number anyway. It doesn't connect to anyone who has anything to do with the scam, if it's even connected.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 06:55 PM (t+qrx)

243 "Ten million strong and growing"

California illegal immigrant motto?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:56 PM (H8QX8)

244 Opulent ao dai:

https://tinyurl.com/y23ql6al

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2019 06:56 PM (5aX2M)

245 Well. I just gotta say the last time I played chess and showed off a little cleavage, Mrs D wasn't impressed.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2019 06:56 PM (axyOa)

246 WIM Jennifer Shahade

I played her once. She kicked my ass. It was not good. Seemed like a nice girl. She was very young at the time.

Her father used to come around Rittenhouse Square every once in a while to talk with a couple of the chess guys. Story was that he was Bobby Fischer's bodyguard for a while(?). Nice guy. I don't remember much else about him.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 06:57 PM (6fsOH)

247 ''Doesn't Metamucil taste exactly like Tang?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM (G0Jop)

Better.''

But it gives me gas soo have to use Citrucel. We're showing our age here aren't we?

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:57 PM (jm1YL)

248 Those slogans are not that obscure. Kix still has that on their boxes
Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (z2W2E)

--I would like to ask a few questions about this breakfast cereal.

--Uh, yeah, a box of Trix?

--I have been led to understand that Trix are exclusively for children. Is that correct?

--Well, yeah, they say Trix are for kids. . .

--Uh,huh. And is that enforced by law?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2019 06:57 PM (vJw+j)

249 RD7?

R2D2's poor cousin?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 06:57 PM (cH3lq)

250 I like Tang.


Gotta make it pretty strong, but I like it.

Sort of like how I like orange bug juice.

And that stuff is good for cleaning brass fire hose nozzles as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:57 PM (q1BC2)

251 ''Nope. Saddle shoes and white bucks.''

Oh lord I had saddle shoes too. I still think they look cute on toddlers.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:58 PM (jm1YL)

252 The Tang brand is currently owned by Mondelez International, a 2012 North American company split off of Kraft Foods Inc.

What is a "North American" company? Are they trying to hide that it's Mexican?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 06:59 PM (6fsOH)

253 Get your Apollo image fox here:

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 06:59 PM (cH3lq)

254 eerr Fix

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:00 PM (cH3lq)

255 Just imagine Kate Middleton in one of those Ao-Dai outfits.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 07:00 PM (q1BC2)

256 I wore saddle shoes in grade school. A girl in my class was fascinated with them. She wore black patent leather pumps. I was also fascinated. We traded.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

257 Felt poodle skirts. My aunt was a wonderful seamstress and she made my sisters and me matching skirts. I think my mom has a formal picture of us all lined up with those skirts on. They were snazzy.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:00 PM (jm1YL)

258 Thanks for the 20th Century Fox is what Disney bought. Fox news is a bit sketchy already but if Disney was going do for it what they did for ESPN - yikes.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at July 20, 2019 07:01 PM (vrfMC)

259 Sorry. Those spam robo/fraud calls can be really annoying. Glad you notified people even if they don't seem to care.ot a text completely in Spanish saying, "God bless you. We are looking forward to coming to your house. We will be there in a little while. '" Well, I'm not looking forward to you coming to my house, since the call came from Florida and the only person I know who lives in Florida does not have Spanish as their first language. I didn't answer back and deleted it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 07:01 PM (+0VWg)

260 >>>True. There seem to be a lot fewer morons who actually try to work the problems. I think we're down to maybe 4 or 5.<<<

Thanks for doing this, OM. I enjoy the challenge of the problems, but I save the solutions for myself.

Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (kLDv+)

261 237
Ten million strong and growing is Flintstones vitamins.

Posted by: joncelli


You're supposed to sing it.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 06:52 PM (G0Jop)

FINE. [Little boy voice] Ten million strong...and growing!

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (1FhAQ)

262 ''She wore black patent leather pumps. I was also fascinated. We traded.''

Why does that not surprise me? LOL

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (jm1YL)

263
Sort of like how I like orange bug juice.

Drank a lot of that in the Navy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (aKsyK)

264 253 Get your Apollo image fox here:

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 06:59 PM (cH3lq)

254 eerr Fix

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:00 PM (cH3lq)


I didn't see your correction and assumed that you were linking an Apollo babe.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (sdi6R)

265 Anybody remember PF Flyers? Or Buster Brown?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:30 PM (H8QX

Oh yes. And in the mid to late 1940's all the guys wore Converse basketball shoes, at least in our neck of the woods.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (u5LFV)

266 ''Just imagine Kate Middleton in one of those Ao-Dai outfits.''

Imagine Mrs. Trump in a simple so dai. Wow.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:03 PM (jm1YL)

267 But it gives me gas soo have to use Citrucel. We're showing our age here aren't we?
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:57 PM

We're not just dating ourselves, we're carbon dating ourselves.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2019 07:03 PM (WwIQB)

268 https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/mobile/
Have had this going since got home this afternoon. The first walk on moon is after 10pm

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:04 PM (BbGew)

269 I worked with a guy in the desert named Ashfaq.

He had a new name after the first day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2019 07:04 PM (fcGKa)

270 "Sort of like how I like orange bug juice. "

Drank that stuff by the gallon at tennis camp when I was a kid. The purple bug juice too. I suppose that would have grape (though obviously any connection to actual grapes was not part of the deal).

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 07:04 PM (H8QX8)

271 How did we get the moon-dune buggy up there?

Posted by: why haven't we been back at July 20, 2019 07:04 PM (ym5eo)

272 Tuna.. the funny thing? She lived on a farm! lol.. she invited me out one day and my first experience with a horse. It DID NOT go well. As soon as I was on her she bolted and I was hanging on for dear life. I love horses but that experience scarred me..no shit. They can sense my fear so I don't even attempt to ride anymore. I just pet them.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (dUJdY)

273 I'm not seeing a good solution to problem 2 yet. My idea is Qg4 as the 1st move. This sets up a discovered + or even a dbl +. N cannot be captured because mate follows after the Q recaptures and I'm not seeing any attack on the white Q to prevent the disc check.

Posted by: steve at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (TTy55)

274 Nyah?

Carbon dating? Is that like carbon-freezing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (cH3lq)

275 Kicks are for Trids.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (RuIsu)

276 >>'Nope. Saddle shoes and white bucks

Love my white bucks.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (K/2j/)

277 I see how the whole Chess Babe deal works. Ten minutes into the game and her opponent is either trying to double-jump a pawn or collect $200 for crossing the board.

Posted by: MW at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (hNTtn)

278 259 Sorry. Those spam robo/fraud calls can be really annoying. Glad you notified people even if they don't seem to care.ot a text completely in Spanish saying, "God bless you. We are looking forward to coming to your house. We will be there in a little while. '" Well, I'm not looking forward to you coming to my house, since the call came from Florida and the only person I know who lives in Florida does not have Spanish as their first language. I didn't answer back and deleted it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 07:01 PM (+0VWg)


Spending $75 on a white-list-based call blocker for my landline was one of the best investments I have ever made.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (wo+B3)

279 How did we get the moon-dune buggy up there?

Posted by: why haven't we been back at July 20, 2019 07:04 PM (ym5eo)


Valet service.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 07:06 PM (6fsOH)

280 268 Just before 10pm
109.24 hrs into the mission, at 105.33 now

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:06 PM (BbGew)

281 Uber has moon service

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:06 PM (BbGew)

282 Kicks are for Trids.
Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (RuIsu)

Silly Rabbi...

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 07:07 PM (H8QX8)

283 And she said, "Poj'me odejit do me loznice."
Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2019 06:46 PM

Sorry, baby, 15 is my limit on loznice.

Posted by: Sherriff Bart at July 20, 2019 07:07 PM (WwIQB)

284
Kickball game at NRG Stadium tonight. The next person I see with a "Fly Emirates" shirt on is going to be punched in the nose.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2019 07:07 PM (TubSh)

285 Got 45 minutes?

Moon Machines - Lunar Rover

https://youtu.be/5aDSYTMqyQw

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:07 PM (cH3lq)

286 I think there was a running gag in Dudley Dooright that his horse was Nell Fenwick's love interest.

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2019 07:07 PM (jY3BZ)

287 I watched the Apollo landing in the OSU student union. It was a big deal. My mom and dad let me spend the night on campus with a friend from my summer job at the main library. We spent the night listening to Bob Dylan and eating Doritos then walked over to the Union to watch the landing.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:08 PM (jm1YL)

288 I enjoy the challenge of the problems, but I save the solutions for myself.
Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2019 07:02 PM (kLDv+)


Right. I guess I should've said their are fewer morons *commenting* on the problems.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 07:09 PM (o9nSg)

289 "Fly Emirates"

Yeah, some of us do that

Posted by: Sheikah Latifa Mohammed Al Maktoum at July 20, 2019 07:09 PM (ykYG2)

290 When do we get dress pron of "First Lady" Lou Henry Hoover?

Posted by: why haven't we been back at July 20, 2019 07:09 PM (ym5eo)

291 "Drank a lot of that in the Navy. "

Same here.

Sort of a give-away about soaking a firehose nozzle in it.

Same with scrubbing deck plates with that and a wire brush.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 07:09 PM (q1BC2)

292 Those were the days my friend
We thought they'd never end.....

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:10 PM (jm1YL)

293 WIM Jennifer Shahade


Shahade

Baby don't you wanna go

Back to that same old place

Oh sweet home Chicago

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 07:10 PM (exur3)

294 Love my white bucks.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (K/2j/)
--------

I had no idea they made them in a flip- flop version.

Posted by: bluebell at July 20, 2019 07:10 PM (aXucN)

295 I have no recollection of watching the first moon landing, certainly was old enough but no idea what I was doing.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:12 PM (BbGew)

296 Red Ball Jets

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 07:13 PM (K22Va)

297 241 Do Keds count?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 06:15 PM (GaOgf)

Nope. Saddle shoes and white bucks.
Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 06:54 PM (u5LFV)

I have a pair of keds in my closet.

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:13 PM (GaOgf)

298 Problem 2:

Nh8

Threatens the bishop and threatens mate if the bishop moves.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 07:13 PM (6fsOH)

299 Threatens the bishop and threatens mate if the bishop moves

Oh, THAT move!

Posted by: the Kennedys at July 20, 2019 07:15 PM (ykYG2)

300 I guess another MAGA hat wearing white dude asserted one of our betters, again.


Or......maybe not.

https://bit.ly/2JSt2yt

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 07:15 PM (q1BC2)

301 298 Problem 2:

Nh8
Threatens the bishop and threatens mate if the bishop moves.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 07:13 PM (6fsOH)


That is the correct first move. Solutions be up shortly.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 07:16 PM (o9nSg)

302 I love horses but that experience scarred me..no shit. They can sense my fear so I don't even attempt to ride anymore. I just pet them.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 07:05 PM (dUJdY)


One Horse Power

Posted by: Hurricane 1 and more to come at July 20, 2019 07:17 PM (c8xLq)

303 So I was hoping 16.1 of Visual Studio wouldn't rape me in the butt too bad.

Just use Jetbrains Rider.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 20, 2019 07:17 PM (lD3vL)

304 I tried letting the computer play White and it came up with this:

1. Rd7 Qb8
2. Nh8 Kxh8
3. Qxf6+ Kh7
4. Rxf7+ Kg8
5. Qg7#

2. Nh8 is the killer.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

305 >>I had no idea they made them in a flip- flop version.

Every now and then one must bow to convention.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2019 07:17 PM (K/2j/)

306 That is the correct first move. Solutions be up shortly.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 07:16 PM (o9nSg)


I only solve first moves and I only write short stories.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 07:17 PM (6fsOH)

307 You know I don't think of myself as "old" but I was a sophomore going on junior when the moon landing happened. Neil Armstrong was the speaker at my college graduation. Time does fly doesn't it?

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:18 PM (jm1YL)

308 They don't make em like they used to.

Posted by: Frank Rizzo at July 20, 2019 07:19 PM (eYLmo)

309 Solutions should be now up.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 07:20 PM (o9nSg)

310 Apollo landed in the student union?

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2019 07:21 PM (RuIsu)

311 Oh lord I had saddle shoes too. I still think they look cute on toddlers.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 06:58 PM (jm1YL)

And also, ballet slippers with toreador pants.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 07:22 PM (u5LFV)

312 ...How did we get the moon-dune buggy up there?

Posted by: why haven't we been back at July 20, 2019 07:04 PM (ym5eo)




It was carried in a "folded up like NASA Origami in a side-compartment of the Lunar Lander Descent Stage.

The astronauts would unfold the bits n' pieces, which would either self-lock into position with spring powered press pins, or be locked into position with various tightening collars, collets, clamps and other fasteners.

Those tires? No compressed gas in them at all. If you had a compressed air source, you could run air right through them.

They were spring-steel mesh, strong enough to act as an inflated rubber tire, but far lighter.

This is all stuff I remember from my schoolboy days, soaking up every detail of NASA I could possibly find.

But I'm certain you could Wikipedia "Lunar Rover" and get a flood of details there, too.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 20, 2019 07:22 PM (QzJWU)

313 Epic.....

@DonaldJTrumpJr 8 minutes ago

Hey Creepy Porn Lawyer, appreciate you flagging this.

By the way, really enjoyed meeting your ex wife at my speech last night. It was a packed house unlike your presser.

(Here's the presser he's referring to...made into a meme by @Solmemes1)

https://tinyurl.com/y3f6l3ub
#basta #EnjoyPrison

https://tinyurl.com/yyg6r5fj

Posted by: Tami at July 20, 2019 07:24 PM (cF8AT)

314 ''Apollo landed in the student union?''

LOL. I can see I made an error when constructing that sentence. I blame the single malt.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:24 PM (jm1YL)

315 >>>Right. I guess I should've said their are fewer morons *commenting* on the problems.
Posted by: OregonMuse.<<<

It's mostly about that written board code location thingie that I've never bothered to learn because I'm lazy.

Queen to King's level booyah!

Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2019 07:24 PM (kLDv+)

316 ''And also, ballet slippers with toreador pants.''

Ala Audrey Hepburn.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:25 PM (jm1YL)

317 Oh! So glad to see Middleton could enjoy a Wimbledon moment after spending a grueling day at Parliament, advocating for Tommy Robinson. A true champion of the underdog, the Princess is.

Posted by: kallisto at July 20, 2019 07:26 PM (ugwJg)

318 She wore black patent leather pumps. I was also fascinated. We traded.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

Back in 1940-41 we wore patent leather shoes for Sunday "dress-up" shoes. Buster Brown or the Sears equivalent for school and everyday.

Posted by: Grannymimi at July 20, 2019 07:27 PM (u5LFV)

319 ''Oh! So glad to see Middleton could enjoy a Wimbledon moment after spending a grueling day at Parliament, advocating for Tommy Robinson. A true champion of the underdog, the Princess is.''

Probably doesn't even know who he is. Such is the insulated life of a royal..

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:28 PM (jm1YL)

320 I guess another MAGA hat wearing white dude asserted one of our betters, again.


Or......maybe not.

https://bit.ly/2JSt2yt
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 07:15 PM (q1BC2)



It has been verified that SOMEBODY dumped bleach on her head.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2019 07:28 PM (1g7ch)

321 Paolo J Trump

Posted by: the Kennedys at July 20, 2019 07:28 PM (ykYG2)

322 er, off sock

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 07:30 PM (ykYG2)

323 ''Paolo J Trump''

His tweet stream has been active today. Still in a good mood.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:30 PM (jm1YL)

324 Does anyone know if Presdent Obama plays checkers ??? He be very snart and probably very good at this game and proberly checkmate his operonent in 5 moves....

Posted by: Mary Cloginstein from Obamaboro, VT and Proud of it !!! at July 20, 2019 07:32 PM (qM84C)

325 Fight night! Two former Olympian heavyweights. Both Undefeated. Both 10 of 11 knockouts. Excellent.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 20, 2019 07:33 PM (l0HIT)

326 What if Black plays Qa8 as his first move?

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 07:33 PM (sdi6R)

327 Come 2020, Trump will be in rare form. This is just the beginning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2019 07:33 PM (nDe2U)

328 So I was perusing Kurt Schlichter Twitter feed (because his trolling is childish yet hilarious) and he named dropped RATT. Haven't listened to them in years. So off to Y-Tube and watched Round and Round. I completely forgot Milton Berle was in that video.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2019 07:34 PM (Qt2ya)

329 203 Trivia: Name of Buster Brown's dog?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 20, 2019 06:40 PM (H8QX

Dinner?

Posted by: Barry O'Dumbass at July 20, 2019 07:34 PM (on6lm)

330 I have no doubt Jug Ears is very snart

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:35 PM (BbGew)

331 Round And Round was RATT's best song, by some distance.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 07:35 PM (ykYG2)

332 ''Does anyone know if Presdent Obama plays checkers ??? He be very snart and probably very good at this game and proberly checkmate his operonent in 5 moves....''

Mary, You know he'd never lower himself to play checkers with the "folks". Saves that pleasure for downtime while cruising with his billionaire buddies.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:35 PM (jm1YL)

333 Wanted Man was a great RATT tune.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2019 07:36 PM (nDe2U)

334 Fight night! Two former Olympian heavyweights. Both Undefeated. Both 10 of 11 knockouts. Excellent.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 20, 2019 07:33 PM (l0HIT)

Yup....I used to love Fight of the Week.

But the pansies at the networks and Don King killed boxing as a spectator sport for the average Joe Palooka.

Pay Per View can kiss my left hook.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 07:37 PM (Z+IKu)

335 ''Yup....I used to love Fight of the Week. ''

Sponsored by Gillette if I remember correctly. Things have changed haven't they?

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:39 PM (jm1YL)

336 @DonaldJTrumpJr 8 minutes ago



Hey Creepy Porn Lawyer, appreciate you flagging this.



By the way, really enjoyed meeting your ex wife at my speech last night. It was a packed house unlike your presser.



(Here's the presser he's referring to...made into a meme by @Solmemes1)



https://tinyurl.com/y3f6l3ub

#basta #EnjoyPrison



https://tinyurl.com/yyg6r5fj

Posted by: Tami at July 20, 2019 07:24 PM (cF8AT)


I love how CPL waves, nods to and then thanks the empty room. I guess we're all supposed to pretend there were people in there

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 07:39 PM (1ChV0)

337 319. Insulated...funny, they seem to plug in to the mainstream when their pet projects are concerned - like Diana with AIDS and land mines and Duchess Meghan with gender fluidity.

Posted by: kallisto at July 20, 2019 07:41 PM (ugwJg)

338 Could be the Chest Thread, too. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2019 07:41 PM (abNpZ)

339 But the pansies at the networks and Don King killed boxing as a spectator sport for the average Joe Palooka.

Pay Per View can kiss my left hook.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 07:37 PM (Z+IKu)

Yes HG. My dad talked about regular Friday night fight get togethers to watch the fights. I'm a boomer so you can imagine the talent he saw.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 20, 2019 07:41 PM (l0HIT)

340 still without power. supposed to be a couple days, i guess. upwards of 100,000 without power right now.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 07:42 PM (KP5rU)

341 I guess another MAGA hat wearing white dude asserted one of our betters, again.