Sunday Overnight Open Thread (9/22/19)

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THE QUOTES OF THE DAY


Quote I

“Further, illegal and inadmissible aliens are increasing housing demand and draining resources. Instead of protecting the most vulnerable Americans from the economic impacts of illegal immigration, California has doubled down on sanctuary State and city policies and provided benefits to illegal and inadmissible aliens.” Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, M.D.


Quote II

“Each and every voice is necessary to bring change. My name is Alyssa Wiseman, and I am here as a concerned citizen. As a child, I should not have to worry about my future. But my future is in jeopardy. All of our futures are in jeopardy. Your children’s futures are in jeopardy. We have only 11 years to rectify decades of damage that we have inflicted on our planet. And only 18 months until some damages are irreversible. We no longer have the luxury of time. We do not have the luxury of gradual change. We are in the midst of a global emergency. And we must act fast if we want to survive.” Alyssa Wiseman


Quote III

"We had never heard about this, had never heard about marijuana causing any vomiting. He and I were like, 'Yeah, I think it’s something else. Brian did not believe that was what it was because of everything we had ever been told about marijuana. … It didn’t make any sense.” Regina Denny

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Paul Joseph Watson on Justin Trudeau...........


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Another corporation has gone woke, Trader Joe's.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) had a victory of sorts this week. The animal rights group praised Trader Joe’s after the company decided to redesign some of its product packaging. One major change will be the removal of circus elephants.

PETA told Fox News in a statement that they had previously reached out to Trader Joe’s about their use of circus elephants on the packaging for products like peanuts, toilet paper, and peanut butter. PETA took issue with the images because of the historical “standard practice to beat, shock, chain, and whip elephants” and other animals used in circus performances.”


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The world's most surveilled cities.


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Former VP Joe Biden, critical thinker extraordinaire. 'Biden Says If Male Identifies As Woman He Should Be Housed With Female Inmates In Prison'


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With allies like these, who needs enemies?H/T Bitter Clinger

Bomb-sniffing dogs the U.S. government sent the Kingdom of Jordan were treated so poorly that they “lost the will to work” and died, according to an inspector general report.


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Before my knee was replaced I officiated three high school sports. Often my weekends were dealing with parents attempting to live vicariously through their children. I still miss reffing quite a bit. The parents are not one of those.


Youth sports officials and referees are quitting their jobs at record rates because of parents’ poor behavior during games, reports said.

The National Federation of State High School Associations said 80 percent of officials quit before they reached the third-year mark on the job.


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The Vikings, better fighting through agronomy.

The legendary Viking warriors known as berserkers were renowned for their ferocity in battle, purportedly fighting in a trancelike state of blind rage (berserkergang), howling like wild animals, biting their shields, and often unable to distinguish between friend and foe in the heat of battle. But historians know very little about the berserkers apart from scattered Old Norse myths and epic sagas. One intriguing hypothesis as to the source of their behavior is that the berserkers ingested a specific kind of mushroom with psychoactive properties. Now an ethnobotanist is challenging that hypothesis, suggesting in a recent paper in The Journal of Ethnopharmacology that henbane is a more likely candidate


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Is America as racist and worth destroying as some would say? Thoughts and observations by Ammo Grrrll.

Then last Saturday night, we drove 50 miles to a play in Peoria, AZ. Suburban Arizona – the EPICENTER of intolerance, if you believe our betters. We were very early and stopped into a dark little bar for a drink. Two large Mexican bartenders were tending to three lesbian couples, a heterosexual couple, two elderly black men (not together), and a couple of Jewish geezers of late, late middle age. Most of the others seemed to be regulars. Nothing but friendliness, laughter, generous pours, and a very loud jukebox that careened wildly between country and rap. Mr. AG put in the earplugs he carries all the time and nursed his double-Jack.

So how is our rainbow Family of Man doing? Pretty damn well, all slanderous accounts to the contrary. Absent the race hustlers and people for whom stirring the perpetual grievance pot is a lucrative career, most of us get along just fine. And that’s the truth.


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Buh-bye Spartacus.

Sen. Cory Booker needs $1.7 million by Sept. 30.

If he doesn't get it, he's likely going to be out of the 2020 presidential campaign, according to a staff memo obtained by NBC News' Alex Seitz-Wald.

"Without a fundraising surge to close out this quarter, we do not see a legitimate long-term path forward," campaign manager Addisu Demissie wrote in the memo. "The next 10 days will determine whether Cory Booker can stay in this race."


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THE ONT MUSICAL INTERLUDE


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Born on this day: September 22, 1958 - Joan Jett
Joan Jett, American rock guitarist, singer, songwriter, producer. Founding member of The Runaways and with Joan Jett & the Blackhearts scored the 1982 US No.1 & UK No.4 single 'I Love Rock 'n' Roll'. She is also known as the Godmother of Punk. via thisdayinmusic.com


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“To be fair, this was not the most difficult crime to solve. Both the victim and the deputies simply followed the trailer tracks left behind,” Genius Award Winner.

LAKELAND, Fla. - Thieves left a trail leading to a stolen barbeque grill trailer and the arrest of five people, including a man with three active warrants, Jimbob Bearden, according to a Polk County Sheriff’s Office Facebook post.


A barbeque grill trailer was marked for sale on Sleepy Hill Road in Lakeland, where the owner had chained it and flattened a tire as a precautionary measure against thieves.


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Bikers have a long memory. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

One year ago, Daryn Sturch, a nurse, and her daughter came upon an accident involving several motorcyclists of the Milwaukee Iron.

"I stayed with them and did the best I could to triage them and keep them awake and calm," Sturch said, adding that all five bikers involved in the crash had sustained "severe" injuries.

After the accident, Sturch began receiving an outpouring of thank you messages from the bikers associated with Milwaukee Iron.

So, when Sturch announced on Facebook that her daughter was setting up a lemonade stand, one of the bikers saw the post.


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Weekly commenter stats for week of 9-22-2019

Top 10 commenters:
1 [661 comments] 'Anon a mouse' [92.79 posts/day]
2 [443 comments] 'Miklos, vaguely recalling'
3 [428 comments] 'Insomniac'
4 [358 comments] 'Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview'
5 [349 comments] 'flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner'
6 [347 comments] 'rickb223'
7 [334 comments] 'Tom Servo'
8 [317 comments] 'Yudhishthira's Dice'
9 [310 comments] 'Lizzy'
10 [304 comments] 'boulder t'hobo'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [433 names] 'Miklos, vaguely recalling' [60.78 unique names/day]
2 [94 names] 'My Pimp Shot My Dealer'
3 [43 names] 'joncelli, because somebody had to'
4 [41 names] 'Wine Moms'
5 [30 names] 'freaked'
6 [27 names] 'Hands'
7 [26 names] 'Adirondack Patriot'
8 [24 names] 'Master Beto'
9 [23 names] 'Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview'
10 [23 names] 'Meade Lux Lewis'

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1 Early!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 09:30 PM (NWiLs)

2 Another winner by Puddles.

Posted by: windbag at September 22, 2019 09:32 PM (INE0M)

3 Oh my. I'd like to play a round with her!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:33 PM (Y4EXg)

4 Alyssa Wiseman can fuck right off.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

5 Read the whole thing.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at September 22, 2019 09:34 PM (bgJ0E)

6 Thirteenſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 09:34 PM (7WaWV)

7 I didn't get the sock puppet prize this week but I see I'm in the top 10 total.

I should probably, like, discover girls or something.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:36 PM (ykYG2)

8 3 Oh my. I'd like to play a round with her!
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:33 PM (Y4EXg)

I bet she's great at washing balls.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

9 Former VP Joe Biden, critical thinker extraordinaire. 'Biden Says If Male Identifies As Woman He Should Be Housed With Female Inmates In Prison'

At what point in the prosecution process do you make this election? Becuz I sure wouldn't want to miss the deadline.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:36 PM (ZYB2s)

10 Golf?

Nixon plays golf...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:37 PM (6qErC)

11 I should probably, like, discover girls or something.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo

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Um, not to burst your bubble or anything but girls were discovered back in the Garden of Eden times.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:37 PM (Y4EXg)

12 Liberals:

Over population is killing us!
The road have too many cars!
The rent is too damn high and I can't find decent housing!

Where will we put the trash? Where we will get our resources from?

Also Liberals:
Let's bring more people here!

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:37 PM (WdocV)

13 10 Golf?

Nixon plays golf...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:37 PM (6qErC)

Even Richard Nixon has got soul

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 09:38 PM (aA3+G)

14 Sen. Cory Booker needs $1.7 million by Sept. 30.
If he doesn't get it, he's likely going to be out of the 2020 presidential campaign, according to a staff memo obtained by NBC News' Alex Seitz-Wald.


And G-d will call him home!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:38 PM (ykYG2)

15 hiya

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:38 PM (u6t70)

16 Alyssa Wiseman sounds like a classic hyperventilating, hysterical female. I think we should alter the entire economy based on her wisdom.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:38 PM (ZYB2s)

17 Marijuana is as bad for you as anything you light on fire and inhale.


It also make you high.


The fact that this eludes some people is a mystery.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 09:38 PM (Wz/kV)

18 'Biden Says If Male Identifies As Woman He Should Be Housed With Female Inmates In Prison'
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Hey moron-ettes. If Biden wins I'm bunking with you in the happy fun camps.


Don't worry, my leg hair should look really good in a miniskirt! And if you teach me the right way to sit my dangles shouldn't dangle out.


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:39 PM (WdocV)

19 'Biden Says If Male Identifies As Woman He Should Be Housed With Female Inmates In Prison'

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Up in the female prison, there are seventy five women
`Tis among them I wish I did dwell

Posted by: The Auld Triangle at September 22, 2019 09:39 PM (CDGwz)

20 I need to learn how to play golf.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:39 PM (u6t70)

21 What if the Vikings just traded the Polish slaves they'd captured, down river for old fashioned hasheesh?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:40 PM (ykYG2)

22 Avoided the Top Ten again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:40 PM (QSzhg)

23
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:39 PM (WdocV)

Ewww

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:41 PM (u6t70)

24 First they came for the circus elephants, and I said nothing.

Posted by: Tony the Tiger at September 22, 2019 09:41 PM (ZYB2s)

25 Does Alyssa and Greta know they only have 14 months to save the planet?

Not putting any pressure on them, but they better step up their game if they want to save the planet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:41 PM (QSzhg)

26 7 boulder t'hobo

Well, if you marry one of them, after a while you will be in the top three. I wonder why that is?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:42 PM (u82oZ)

27 Posted by: Tony the Tiger at September 22, 2019 09:41 PM (ZYB2s)

You're Greaaaaaat!

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:42 PM (u6t70)

28 I wish this impending climate catastrophe were real... I've long wanted to live closer to the coast...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (7WaWV)

29 ... a man with three active warrants, Jimbob Bearden
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I figured it was him.

Posted by: The Auld Triangle at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (CDGwz)

30 Alyssa Wiseman is a wise man beyond her years.

Posted by: Dr. Paul Ehrlich, The World's Wrongest Scientist at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (ZYB2s)

31 And yeah, Biden's toast. He needed Iowa and for that, he needed not to look like a drooling dolt in public.

The superdelegates are going to rally behind Lieawatha so that's what we've got to plan our campaign around.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (ykYG2)

32
You're Greaaaaaat!
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:42 PM (u6t70)


So are you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (aA3+G)

33 25 Does Alyssa and Greta know they only have 14 months to save the planet?

Not putting any pressure on them, but they better step up their game if they want to save the planet.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:41 PM (QSzhg)

It's probably already too late. Time to take up smoking and drinking again.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (u6t70)

34 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (aA3+G)

Flattery will get you anything your heart desires.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:44 PM (u6t70)

35 So if we have 12 years to save the planet do we just need Obama to make the seas go down sometime between now and 2031?

He doesn't look very busy so I'm sure he can schedule it in right?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:45 PM (WdocV)

36 It's probably already too late. Time to take up smoking and drinking again.
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (u6t70)


Yep. If I'm going out because of climate change, I'm going out with an orgy of debauchery.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:45 PM (ZYB2s)

37 36 It's probably already too late. Time to take up smoking and drinking again.
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (u6t70)

Yep. If I'm going out because of climate change, I'm going out with an orgy of debauchery.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:45 PM (ZYB2s)

Damn right.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (NWiLs)

38 First they came for the circus elephants, and I said nothing.
Posted by: Tony the Tiger
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I think they got the Frito Bandito first. Or, maybe it was the Taco Bell Chihuahua...can't recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (CDGwz)

39 Why am I paying taxes if we only have 14 months left?

Time to party!!!

Oh, maybe not. Because they are full of shit.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (u82oZ)

40 I Elizabeth Warren the platonic ideal of bitchy shrew?


I mean I thought it was Hillary but listening to Fauxcahontas....


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (WdocV)

41 I have have taken care of many idiots who in indulge in smoking too much marijuana and can attest that Marijuana induced cyclic vomit is real. The cure? Stop smoking weed.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (QD9b6)

42 To all the people wondering why Trump made it his business to appear with India's popular PM Modi at a rally in Houston--There are 300,000 Indian immigrants in Houston.

Houston is in Texas, and those 300.000 might come in handy next year.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (o1fzk)

43 I am moved by the chilruns.

I will light a tire to raise awareness of the peril.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 22, 2019 09:47 PM (XrCyE)

44 Yep. If I'm going out because of climate change, I'm going out with an orgy of debauchery.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:45 PM (ZYB2s)

I'm going shopping since I won't have to worry about paying off the credit card. I'll get a Lexus.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:47 PM (u6t70)

45 but I see I'm in the top 10 total."

*looks around*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (6qErC)

46 Misanthropic Humanitarian

Thank you for another entertaining and educational ONT. Nice flag picture.

Everyone have a great night. May your dreams become reality.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (u82oZ)

47 "Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, also known as CHS"


It must be that new genetically altered pot.
Back at school there was enough smoke to give
the pentagon the munchies. Odd.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (zNIcM)

48 I've seen the long term effects of pot use in people I know.

Its not like meth or cocaine where it will kill you.

But it will turn you into a lethargic waste of space...


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (WdocV)

49 I'm letting everyone know how great dried grapes are. I guess you could say I'm raisin awareness.

Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (l2ymI)

50 That form picture?

Hurts my back just thinking about it.

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (NgKpN)

51 45 but I see I'm in the top 10 total."

*looks around*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (6qErC)

Congratulations! How do you do it?

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:49 PM (u6t70)

52 Mitt Romney
45s

If the President asked or pressured Ukraine's president to investigate his political rival, either directly or through his personal attorney, it would be troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:49 PM (o1fzk)

53 That's a beautiful top picture.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 22, 2019 09:49 PM (dUJdY)

54 Japanese captured B-17 Flying Fortresses

https://youtu.be/JR-Yx4DojKg

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:49 PM (QSzhg)

55 44 Yep. If I'm going out because of climate change, I'm going out with an orgy of debauchery.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:45 PM (ZYB2s)

I'm going shopping since I won't have to worry about paying off the credit card. I'll get a Lexus.
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:47 PM (u6t70)

I'm thinking about just walking up to everyone who tells me the world is over in 12 years, and handing them a Legal document saying I get all their stuff, in 12 years.

We'll see how many sign it.

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 09:50 PM (NgKpN)

56 Houston is in Texas, and those 300.000 might come in handy next year.

Crazy like a fox. Doused in curry.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 22, 2019 09:50 PM (XrCyE)

57 Got to the bottom of the content and there was just the one comment posted. But it was the 1, already taken, so... top whatever at this point.

Wonder where that flag field is. And how it was done.

I'm unclear what the barbeque grill trailer trail was, exactly. Tire rim gouges in the road? Long line of ash? Reeses Pieces?

Posted by: mindful webworker - barely an inconvenience at September 22, 2019 09:50 PM (rTqAd)

58
Everyone have a great night. May your dreams become reality.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (u82oZ)

Hopes for the future, or the things in my head at night? Because the second category, I don't want.

Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2019 09:50 PM (l2ymI)

59 India's popular PM Modi at a rally in Houston"

You're too late. The newz informs that the Prime Minister is racist against muslims.

*seriously. News person was that stupid *

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:50 PM (6qErC)

60 Speaking of stepping up one's game.

Anon really needs to get to posting to reach Sven's or my own prolific posting levels.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:51 PM (QSzhg)

61 That form picture?

Hurts my back just thinking about it.
Posted by: Don Q
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Heh. My first thought was 'Maidenform'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:51 PM (xSo9G)

62 . I guess you could say I'm raisin awareness"

That's plum crazy.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:51 PM (6qErC)

63 Hindu Kush - why Buddhists tend to intensely dislike Muslims.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:52 PM (QSzhg)

64 I'm going shopping since I won't have to worry about paying off the credit card. I'll get a Lexus.
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:47 PM (u6t70)



Just remember, when you're being sued for the unpaid balance on the loan, your defense is, "Am I really to blame for trusting Obama and a retarded Scandi teenager?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:52 PM (ZYB2s)

65 52 Mitt Romney
45s

If the President asked or pressured Ukraine's president to investigate his political rival, either directly or through his personal attorney, it would be troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:49 PM (o1fzk)


Mittster can go and FOAD

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 09:52 PM (aA3+G)

66 62 . I guess you could say I'm raisin awareness"

That's plum crazy.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:51 PM (6qErC)

You guys are the apples of my eye

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 09:52 PM (aA3+G)

67 Just remember, when you're being sued for the unpaid balance on the loan, your defense is, "Am I really to blame for trusting Obama and a retarded Scandi teenager?"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:52 PM (ZYB2s)

Well, maybe this isn't such a good plan after all.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (u6t70)

68 We have 18 months.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (EgshT)

69 That golfer looks like Princess Kate

Posted by: Jmel at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (OeWgo)

70 If the President asked or pressured Ukraine's president to investigate his political rival

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So....wait a minute Hillary Clinton and a villains row of Obama era National Security people collaborated with British intelligence.


And...crickets from Mittens?

Also, Biden *admitted* to pressuring the Ukrainian President to NOT investigate his kid....and crickets again Mittens?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (WdocV)

71 66 62 . I guess you could say I'm raisin awareness"

That's plum crazy.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:51 PM (6qErC)

You guys are the apples of my eye
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

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Orange you guys being silly?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (Y4EXg)

72 Congratulations! How do you do it?"

Dedication, hard work, and luck.

Along with way too much free time.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (6qErC)

73 Just remember the 'smhart' elites laugh whenever someone pronounces the Rapture is at hand.

"But the Earth is in peril uhhh 10 no wait 20 years no only 14 months from now!!!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:54 PM (QSzhg)

74 If the President asked or pressured Ukraine's president to investigate his political rival, either directly or through his personal attorney, it would be troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.


Come on, that is so over the top, that must be a spoof.

I do wonder what Mitt had to say about Biden threatening aid to certain African countries if they didn't decriminalize sodomy.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 22, 2019 09:54 PM (lD3vL)

75 You guys are the apples of my eye"

Ain't you a peach?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:55 PM (6qErC)

76 the (Indian) Prime Minister is racist against muslims.

An Indian, racist against Semites. Yeah, go with that. Who's browner, someone from the Subcontinent or a Saudi prince.

"Racist" just means "the American interest" anymore.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:55 PM (ykYG2)

77 71 66 62 . I guess you could say I'm raisin awareness"

That's plum crazy.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:51 PM (6qErC)

You guys are the apples of my eye
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Orange you guys being silly?
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (Y4EXg)

Nuts

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 09:55 PM (u6t70)

78 "we no longer have the luxury of time. we do not have the luxury of gradual change... we must act fast if ww want to survive."

we have missile superiority and we know where the chinese coal plants are. if we were to lob 1,000 cruise missiles into those plants now, we'd catch them with their pants down. i'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. but i see 10-20 million casualties, tops. and what's that next to saving 1-2 billion people?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 09:55 PM (Pg+x7)

79 Evening Horde

Posted by: wing at September 22, 2019 09:55 PM (JFzNN)

80 They keep the doomsday target moving constantly but I'm good with whatevs.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 09:55 PM (EgshT)

81 The Emmys are on tonight. I hope My Mother the Car sweeps the field.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:56 PM (ZYB2s)

82 Has Mitt ever shown the slightest inclination to investigate Biden and his son's dealings with Ukraine--including Biden ( as VP) demanding a prosecutor be fired under threat of losing aid?

But here he is, ready to buy into Democrat spin.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:56 PM (o1fzk)

83 Racist" just means "the American interest" anymore."

Indeed

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:56 PM (6qErC)

84 The Mitt comments here are socks, JoeF.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:56 PM (ykYG2)

85 Just remember the 'smhart' elites laugh whenever someone pronounces the Rapture is at hand.

Duck n Cover anyone?

The 'smhart' elites have been threatening us with the Doomsday clock and Nuclear Winter for generations - in addition to Global Cooling.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 22, 2019 09:56 PM (lD3vL)

86 shit, they're YOUR socks, JoeF.

What did Mitt actually say? with link?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:57 PM (ykYG2)

87 Excellent form on that golfer.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 22, 2019 09:57 PM (qAR6u)

88 I repeated Mitt Romney's comments verbatim to illustrate what a back stabbing turd he is.
He's now surpassed McCain.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:58 PM (o1fzk)

89 Nuclear Winter for generations - in addition to Global Cooling."

Woah. So nukes could lead to an ice age?

/ Greta Thunderbunny

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:58 PM (6qErC)

90 Saddam burning the oil fields could cause a nuclear winter!

Red Adair, "here hold my hat."

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:59 PM (QSzhg)

91 (Mitt)'s now surpassed McCain.

I do try not to say "I warned you in 2012" every time he opens his yap, but he does make it hard.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:59 PM (ykYG2)

92 Romney and McCain are the two biggest pieces of shit I ever cast a vote for. Fuck the GOP for giving me their "best" candidates like these.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (ZYB2s)

93 hola chamucos y chamucas.

Posted by: chimichango at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (B+t5k)

94 Romney's comments are real--it's from a Facebook post though, not a tweet.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (o1fzk)

95 The Vikings mixed amintas pantherinas with alcohol. (it's a brown variation of the red and white muscaria). They were a fad back where I used to live and loggers taking them while drinking got pretty crazy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (Lqy/e)

96 Red Adair, "here hold my hat."
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:59 PM (QSzhg)

Red Adair was a great American hero.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (u6t70)

97 Golfing lady reminds me of some pictures of cats I've seen.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (i/wJA)

98
we have missile superiority and we know where the chinese coal
plants are. if we were to lob 1,000 cruise missiles into those plants
now, we'd catch them with their pants down. i'm not saying we wouldn't
get our hair mussed. but i see 10-20 million casualties, tops. and
what's that next to saving 1-2 billion people?

***

Or just a full nuclear first strike right? Take out 1/10 of the world's population and a significant portion of the world's heavy industry while throwing enough dust into the air to make "global warming" a joke for several years.


I mean if we only have 12 years to save the world right?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:00 PM (WdocV)

99 I believe that golfers name is Holly Sonders. She used to work for Golf Channel but is now over on Fox Sports. At least the last time I checked. Thats not a good picture of her. There are better ones out there. She never went pro but played in college.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 10:01 PM (HCqAo)

100 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/y4a2vw8e

https://tinyurl.com/y4xqjoee

https://tinyurl.com/y2uyg9fs

https://tinyurl.com/y63et782

https://tinyurl.com/y4sda8hl

Posted by: kbdabear at September 22, 2019 10:01 PM (qAR6u)

101 Up in the female prison, there are seventy five women
`Tis among them I wish I did dwell
Posted by: The Auld Triangle at September 22, 2019 09:39 PM


And the Auld Triangle
goes "jingle jangle"
All along the banks
Of the Royal Canal

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:02 PM (DMUuz)

102 I can't wait for the date when its finally too late to save the planet. Then we can all just party and laugh at the hysterical Cassandras.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 10:02 PM (ZYB2s)

103 Is Form her first or last name?

If last, is her first "Maiden"?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:03 PM (DMUuz)

104

They came for the circus peanuts and I cheered.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 10:03 PM (aKsyK)

105 "Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, also known as CHS"





It must be that new genetically altered pot.

Back at school there was enough smoke to give

the pentagon the munchies. Odd.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:48 PM (zNIcM)


The cloud from my school could have been seen from space. Nobody ever vomited.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 10:03 PM (9Om/r)

106 Hey everybody. This was overlooked in the bang bang thread...

Just gotta share this. I LOVE this pic! Thank God for free-thinking people.
(I also love his shoes.)

https://tinyurl.com/y2mv2wqz

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:03 PM (L2ZTs)

107 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/y3ybrw3o

https://tinyurl.com/y5k6628m

https://tinyurl.com/y55d3nlv

https://tinyurl.com/y2mrlbrn

https://tinyurl.com/y4oq94s6

Posted by: kbdabear at September 22, 2019 10:03 PM (qAR6u)

108 Romney is worse than McCain because McCain was always a shit--he dumped his wife, he may or may not have collaborated with the enemy ( I've heard both sides) and he never pretended to be a saint.

Romney is a phony, goody-too-shoes "family" man, devoted husband, holier than thou Mormon--which makes him worse.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 10:04 PM (o1fzk)

109

The kids aren't all right.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 10:04 PM (aKsyK)

110 well, if this shit is over in 12 years or 18 months, or whatever, i'm fucking glad i burned the candle on both ends. i lived good, bitches. i don't care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 22, 2019 10:04 PM (KP5rU)

111
Was I the only one who read Quote III and thought it was about Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:05 PM (7rVsF)

112 Golfing lady reminds me of this:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5un3s66

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 10:05 PM (i/wJA)

113 I have a sneaking suspicion some of us will still be posting here in 16 months...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 10:05 PM (6qErC)

114 Bomb-sniffing dogs the U.S. government sent the Kingdom of Jordan were treated so poorly that they “lost the will to work” and died, according to an inspector general report.


No matter the outward countenance or presentation they are 7th century barbarians.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 10:05 PM (zNIcM)

115 Last night was Billie Jean King Bobblehead Night at Dodger Stadium.

I didn't even know she ever played for the Dodgers!!...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:06 PM (L2ZTs)

116 mitt romney reminds me of the snake oil huckster in josey wales. needs to get his fuckin shine box.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 22, 2019 10:06 PM (KP5rU)

117 Nuclear Winter for generations - in addition to Global Cooling."

Woah. So nukes could lead to an ice age?
-------------

Flashback, 1991:

Cornell University astronomer Carl Sagan says Saddam Hussein's orders to torch Kuwaiti oil wells, if carried far enough, could unleash smoke clouds that would disrupt agriculture across South Asia and darken skies around the world.

"You need a very small lowering of the average temperatures of the Northern Hemisphere to have serious consequences for agriculture," Sagan said.

Scientists in Maryland and Colorado say such a disaster would require fires at hundreds of wells burning for months, but they agreed the potential exists in Kuwait for a "very catastrophic" environmental event.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 10:06 PM (xSo9G)

118 Ok, y'all have a great time. See ya in the am...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 10:06 PM (6qErC)

119 My memory is the nuclear winter calculations were falsified, intentionally, in scope.


A major nuclear war would throw a bunch of dust into the air - like say Karakatoa did - cooling the hemisphere it happens in for maybe a year or two.


But Sagan and co intentionally claimed it would be more serious and cause something like an ice age.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:06 PM (WdocV)

120

I thought the Jordanians were the "modern" ones?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (aKsyK)

121 >>>>He's now surpassed McCain.

Small detail, he's still using our oxygen

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

122 Red Adair was a great American hero.
Posted by: ALH

The real Red Adair was quite a character, and quite wealthy and successful.

My late uncle used to make machined parts for his team they used to cap well heads (after putting out oil fires). He (uncle) used to fly down to Houston and land at Red's HQ, which was right on the airport taxiway. Red had his own 727 (or was it a 737 - I forgot) (?) parked right at his HQ, ready to go at a moments notice.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (hVpH7)

123 There were billions and billions of lies.

Posted by: Zombie Carl Sagan at September 22, 2019 10:08 PM (EgshT)

124 Has anyone challenged little Alyssa Wiseman to support her calculations? I'll assume the answer is no, since today's activist children have never been challenged by anyone and would fall to pieces if they ever had to support their smug little pronouncements.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 10:08 PM (ZYB2s)

125
Flea-bitten mongrel >>>>>>>>>>> Mullah

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:08 PM (7rVsF)

126 73 Just remember the 'smhart' elites laugh whenever someone pronounces the Rapture is at hand.

"But the Earth is in peril uhhh 10 no wait 20 years no only 14 months from now!!!!!"
Posted by: Anna Puma



Everything old is new again. Worshiping the Earth is ancient theology and this is it's Apocalypse minus the redemptive Power of God.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (HCqAo)

127 111 Was I the only one who read Quote III and thought it was about Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:05 PM (7rVsF)


I'm certain that I'm the only one who read "Quote III" as "Quake III".

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (DTX3h)

128 The funny thing about Mittens is that the Dems in Mass hated him, but he gave them everything they actually wanted.

Mittens Romneycare is basically what a competent technocrat looks like, and honestly he SHOULD be the Dem standard bearer in 2020.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (WdocV)

129

The dog should have put Romney on the roof.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (aKsyK)

130 113 I have a sneaking suspicion some of us will still be posting here in 16 months...


I need the pension

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (aA3+G)

131 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (hVpH7)

Six degrees of separation.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (u6t70)

132 I have a sneaking suspicion some of us will still be posting here in 16 months...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 10:05 PM (6qErC)



Yes, but we'll all be dripping in sweat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (ZYB2s)

133 Well the line about X becoming indistinguishable from parody now applies to pernicious jackasses like Romney, not just pundits, the press, academia, or the Dems.


Forget all the context that makes any Trump request to Ukraine to share or pursue info about wrongdoing by American officials. Even shorn of context, it is a perfectly reasonable request. Not inappropriate in the slightest.


Americans committing crimes and/or committing massive improprieties under color of authority overseas do *not* acquire special immunity by being political rivals of anyone. Just as those taking up arms do not get special immunity in the context of ongoing war - they get smoked if possible.


And Biden's Ukraine misdeeds, shorn of context, are breath-taking, I recommend you try it some time.


[just trying to keep it ONT-appropriate]

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (QDnY+)

134 For all the scaremongering, their were some great nuclear war movies in the early 1980s.

Threads, which was produced by the BBC, didn't seem to go into the nuclear winter stuff too much. In fact it postulated that there would be *some* survivors, and that at least on a small scale, various towns/civilizations would kinda/sorta be up and running again about 10 years post-war...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (L2ZTs)

135 It's amazing with this Ukraine thing. There's Adam Schitt out there again and nobody seems to say, "Gee, This guy is ALWAYS wrong. Why should we listen to this bullshit?"

But no, they give him airing with a straight face.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (o1fzk)

136 Yep. If I'm going out because of climate change, I'm going out with an orgy of debauchery.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:45 PM


Call us. It'll be tons of fun!

Posted by: Glitter and Trigglypuff at September 22, 2019 10:10 PM (DMUuz)

137
Jordan is as good as it gets in an Arab autocracy. So, yes, they are the modern ones.


With corruption on a scale that would make a Chicago Dem blush.


Someone probably stole the money to pay for care of the dogs....


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:11 PM (WdocV)

138 Good evening, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:11 PM (TdMsT)

139 Ugh. Those poor bomb sniffing dogs. Another reason I dislike Muslims.

Posted by: IC at September 22, 2019 10:11 PM (3SIip)

140 Hello Ladyl!

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (u6t70)

141 Romney is a phony, goody-too-shoes "family" man, devoted husband, holier than thou Mormon

Romney seems phony to us; but he is sincere in his way. We have here discussed the role of Islamic apocalyptic, in ISIS. I see no reason we cannot do that for LDS.

Brigham Young in 1855 delivered that is known as the White Horse Prophecy. "when the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the 'Mormon' Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it".

I suggest that the Senate is where G-d has called Romney to play kingmaker. Or so Romney believes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (ykYG2)

142 For all the scaremongering, their were some great nuclear war movies in the early 1980s.


And don't forget GAMMA WORLD!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_World

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (WdocV)

143 99 I believe that golfers name is Holly Sonders. She used to work for Golf Channel but is now over on Fox Sports. At least the last time I checked. Thats not a good picture of her. There are better ones out there. She never went pro but played in college.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 10:01 PM (HCqAo)

She played golf at Michigan State.

Posted by: clutch at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (Z3oWA)

144 The NY Giants won today because Bucs Matt GAY couldn't kick STRAIGHT.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (o1fzk)

145 I need the pension
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM


I thought the dental plan was the primary CoB motivator?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (DMUuz)

146 I'm certain that I'm the only one who read "Quote III" as "Quake III".
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (DTX3h)

There were quotes?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (V2Yro)

147 I like Trumps outreach to Indian Americans. That was a huge rally with them and PM Modi in Houston

Posted by: IC at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (3SIip)

148 Georgia beat Notre Dame last night. Go Dawgs!

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (u6t70)

149 140 Hello Ladyl!
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (u6t70)



Hi ALH!

How are you?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

150 LOVE the top flag picture and Joan Jett my rebel yell.

Posted by: Summer of Love at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (FJrl0)

151 I googled Holly Sonders. Fake tits. I hate 'em.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (o1fzk)

152 Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 10:09 PM (QDnY+)

You did very well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (aA3+G)

153 18-1, I was always much more of a Pac-Man and QBert guy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:14 PM (L2ZTs)

154 Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

I'm well. We've had some cooler temps the past few days. IT's a welcome relief from 100 degrees.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:14 PM (u6t70)

155 Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (DMUuz)

I'm greedy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 10:14 PM (aA3+G)

156 142 For all the scaremongering, their were some great nuclear war movies in the early 1980s.


And don't forget GAMMA WORLD!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_World
Posted by: 18-1



(puts on nerd glasses)
I played Gamma World when I was a kid. I liked it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 10:15 PM (HCqAo)

157 How are you, Ladyl?

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:15 PM (u6t70)

158 If we are to be ruled by a young woman with mental issues, why couldn't have been a stripper named Amber?

Posted by: Ripley at September 22, 2019 10:15 PM (NbRJx)

159 So if the Senate is split after the 2020 election, we will be at the mercy of a fanatic with no loyalty to the American nation outside his sect.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:15 PM (ykYG2)

160 Was at the LA Dodger game this afternoon, over 90 degrees in LA. Unpleasant.

Posted by: IC at September 22, 2019 10:15 PM (3SIip)

161 Am I the only one who read those as
Quote Aye
Quote Aye-Aye
Quote Ay-yi-yi!

Posted by: mindful webworker - roamin' new mural at September 22, 2019 10:16 PM (rTqAd)

162
I like Trumps outreach to Indian Americans. That was a huge rally with them and PM Modi in Houston

Posted by: IC at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (3SIip)


They're all White Supremacists!

Expect more MSM stories about Suttee and the caste system.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:17 PM (7rVsF)

163 >>>Red had his own 727 (or was it a 737 - I forgot) (?) parked right at his HQ, ready to go at a moments notice.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (hVpH7)


And the company cars were fire engine red Lincoln Continentals.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 10:17 PM (zNIcM)

164 My name is Alyssa Wiseman

Progressive school districts are telling their students that they, personally, will die from climate change Unless Something Is Done.

Furthermore, these school districts are normalizing mental illness - the students are being told that if they are depressive and hysterical over climate change, that something is wrong with them.

We do not have the luxury of gradual change.

In other words, democratic political processes won't work fast enough. They are preparing the field for a Democratic President to rule by decree.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 10:17 PM (I2/tG)

165 Where did this 11 or 12 years bullshit originate??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 10:18 PM (438dO)

166 She played golf at Michigan State.
Posted by: clutch at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (Z3oWA)


Small world, so did I.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 10:18 PM (t+qrx)

167 154 Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

I'm well. We've had some cooler temps the past few days. IT's a welcome relief from 100 degrees.
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:14 PM (u6t70)


I'm fine, thanks. But it's allergy season, and although I no longer get allergy symptoms, I get extreme fatigue. It will be better when it gets colder.

Have you found you can no longer mention unseasonably warm weather to someone without being admonished about "global warming?"

What part of the country are you in?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:18 PM (TdMsT)

168 American Indians are brown white supremacists. Got is.

Posted by: IC at September 22, 2019 10:18 PM (3SIip)

169
At least there won't be any more Five-Year Plans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:19 PM (7rVsF)

170 What part of the country are you in?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:18 PM (TdMsT)

I'm a Georgia Peach. Where do you live?

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:19 PM (u6t70)

171 151 I googled Holly Sonders. Fake tits. I hate 'em.
Posted by: JoeF.



When she started out on Golf Channel, she was impossibly gorgeous. Then she discovered plastic surgery and now she just looks plastic. She didn't need plastic surgery. She was a natural beauty.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 10:19 PM (HCqAo)

172 I like Trumps outreach to Indian Americans. That was a huge rally with them and PM Modi in Houston
Posted by: IC


---

NAAN!! Gitcher naam here!!

Dosas!! Four for a dollar!!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 10:19 PM (Y4EXg)

173 Matt Drudge is trolling his readers again. The main headline links to WaPoo pounding away at the Ukraine chicken.

Biden isn't going to be the nominee anyway but now, it seems, he can serve as the sacred martyr for the real nominee.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:20 PM (ykYG2)

174 Wisemann and that Thumbooger girl can tell us how to run the world but are too young to go out on a date with Jeffery Epstein.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 10:20 PM (zNIcM)

175

3 public schools in San Francisco took kids as young as 5 to march in a "Close The Camps" leftist protest. Kids had been taught @realDonaldTrump is a racist that hates immigrants, prepared protest signs at school & had scripts of anti-Trump chants!

https://twitter.com/FogCityMidge

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 10:21 PM (aKsyK)

176 Any ideas about where to buy domain name for my new business?

Posted by: Victoria at September 22, 2019 10:22 PM (DdHmn)

177 Progressive school districts are telling their students that they, personally, will die from climate change Unless Something Is Done.

One encouraging thing about Portland's "Climate Strike" was that the crowds of students protesting were overwhelmingly white. You didn't see many black students or Asian students.

Fortunately, they had better things to do.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 10:22 PM (I2/tG)

178 170 What part of the country are you in?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:18 PM (TdMsT)

I'm a Georgia Peach. Where do you live?
Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 10:19 PM (u6t70)


I live in central Ohio, not in mid coast Maine where I belong...

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:22 PM (TdMsT)

179 Similar to Gamma World, I also like Rifts.

In Rifts there is a similar nuclear apocalypse destroying a society more advanced then where we are now...but the catastrophe actually unleashes things worse then radiation and disease - magic, demons, etc....


IIRC Mexico ended up being ruled by Vampire Lords and the remnants of the US, now a authoritarian Empire, is rules from Chicago.


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:22 PM (WdocV)

180 Miklos is trying to hard at the sock thing...

IMHO, of course.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 10:23 PM (VXS7N)

181 I know the food thread ended some hours ago, but there was a question at Quo... elsewhere on the web I just saw, about how safe it is to eat steak tartare.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:23 PM (L2ZTs)

182 Jeffrey Epstein is currently dating a 6,231 year old succubus from the rivers of Malebolge, if you can call what he's getting 'dating', so, yeah, Wisemann and Thunberg are younger than that

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:23 PM (ykYG2)

183 181 I know the food thread ended some hours ago, but there was a question at Quo... elsewhere on the web I just saw, about how safe it is to eat steak tartare.
Posted by: qdpsteve

---

Well, you can become ill from it but that's rare.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 10:24 PM (Y4EXg)

184 boulder, Epstein was recently asked about his new GF. He said "meh, she's still better than Jane Fonda..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:24 PM (L2ZTs)

185 181 I know the food thread ended some hours ago, but there was a question at Quo... elsewhere on the web I just saw, about how safe it is to eat steak tartare.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:23 PM (L2ZTs)

i think as long as it hasn't been sitting out on the table more than 3 or 4 days, you should be fine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 10:24 PM (V2Yro)

186 Tonypete, ISWYDT :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:24 PM (L2ZTs)

187 Biden isn't going to be the nominee anyway but now, it seems, he can serve as the sacred martyr for the real nominee.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:20 PM


All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

* cough *

Posted by: Hillary! 2020 at September 22, 2019 10:24 PM (DMUuz)

188 22 Red Adair was a great American hero.
Posted by: ALH

The real Red Adair was quite a character, and quite wealthy and successful.

My late uncle used to make machined parts for his team they used to cap well heads (after putting out oil fires). He (uncle) used to fly down to Houston and land at Red's HQ, which was right on the airport taxiway. Red had his own 727 (or was it a 737 - I forgot) (?) parked right at his HQ, ready to go at a moments notice.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (hVpH7)


I had the very great pleasure of meeting Mr. Adair in Kuwait, at the oilfields. he called me little lady, bought me dinner at the firefighter's chow hall, and gave me a Red Adair belt buckle, as 'a little sumpin' to remember him by." He and the teams turned that mess into usable oil fields in 9 months, about five years sooner than all the reporters were screaming it was going to take to put out all the fires.

Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2019 10:25 PM (mFoNl)

189 Doomsday fearmongering has been around for millennia.

Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2019 10:25 PM (/+b+k)

190 Tom, LOL, thanks

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:25 PM (L2ZTs)

191 181 I know the food thread ended some hours ago, but there was a question at Quo... elsewhere on the web I just saw, about how safe it is to eat steak tartare.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:23 PM (L2ZTs)


Yes--you can eat raw meat, but WHY???

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:25 PM (TdMsT)

192 Hey....anyone think that hot little Ms Thurnberg would like to check on the damage climate change is casuing the caribbean with America's favorite ex-president?


I could take her to my favorite place for some good old drugs and rap....wrapping about the climate.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 22, 2019 10:26 PM (WdocV)

193 BTW, the pic of steak tartare with the article looked delicious. It was a puck-sized disc of beef with parsley, cilantro and onions mixed throughout, and topped with a raw egg. Atkins Heaven...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:26 PM (L2ZTs)

194 Ladyl, good question :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:27 PM (L2ZTs)

195 The dogs in Jordan story, and photo, makes me wish I had a big, red button I could push. Twice. And then throw it on the floor and jump up and down on it, just to a sure.

Don't ask me what this button does. These aren't healthy thoughts.

But I would. The world would be a billion or so "units of measurement" more peaceful, with the push of a button.

God forgive me. And God help us.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 22, 2019 10:27 PM (owkQl)

196 Thanks for the ONT, MisHum.
Hope everyone is doing well and living right since we only have 14 months before the world ends.
I finished watching "Justified". Loved it, loved the writing and characters.
I just finished watching "Breaking Bad".

I am still processing the entire show. My god. What a ride. Holy. Crap.
Thinking of grabbing "The Bridge" and watching those 2 seasons. I never got a chance to see it all.
Then maybe "Better Call Saul". Maybe. God. "Breaking Bad" was just amazing.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 10:28 PM (Gylu/)

197 so, yeah, Wisemann and Thunberg are younger than that

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:23 PM (ykYG2)


If Epstein were still alive they would be to young to date him. HOWEVER, they can tell us how to rule the world.

This is a great cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 10:28 PM (zNIcM)

198 Evening Morons!

Just got back from a mini MoMee at a certain shiv-mistress's abode.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:28 PM (kQs4Y)

199 Here's the pic of steak tartare with the article I mentioned. Yum!...

https://tinyurl.com/y2t3cj4w

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 10:29 PM (L2ZTs)

200 Aah, Justin Trudeau, 30 years younger than Demented Joe and already as stupid.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at September 22, 2019 10:29 PM (Uu+Jp)

201 Just got back from a mini MoMee at a certain shiv-mistress's abode.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:28 PM (kQs4Y)


*flops on bed, head propped on hands, rapt attention*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (t+qrx)

202 LadyL-

I believe that I've hit upon the solution.......

O Wednesday, and on Thursday, be sure to eat whatever foods make you fart.

Also, wear white pants or skirt or dress, and sit on an unwrapped chocolate bar(mebbe something with peanuts) during dinner and get up and turn around during dinner.

And be sure not to think of any of this during dinner.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (arJlL)

203 Elizabeth Warren the platonic ideal of bitchy shrew?

The only reason why Warren was elected to the Senate in 2012 was that Obama was at the top of the ticket.

She ran seven points behind Obama in Massachusetts - more than 10% of the people who voted for Obama chose not to vote for Warren.

She is very reminiscent of Hillary in her lack of likability.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (I2/tG)

204 as to the kids who are skipping school because it is not important in view of the climate future, I think I've found the antidote to every years' local school budget increase.

especially since this is what many of their teachers are imparting, instead of facts and skills.

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (W7IZQ)

205 yay Eris ! how are the stitches holding up?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (ykYG2)

206 Did somebody day "Sagan"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7K9SycELA

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (kQs4Y)

207 {{{{Eris}}}}

You are absolutely the bomb!!!!

Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2019 10:31 PM (mFoNl)

208 BTH, Bluebell uses such a finely honed blade that you don't even feel it...at first.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:31 PM (kQs4Y)

209
God forgive me. And God help us.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 22, 2019 10:27 PM (owkQl)


I pray to the Lord that He will put a hedge of protection around all those who seek truth, freedom and justice.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:31 PM (TdMsT)

210 Hey, the Emmy's are on!!

(tumbleweed gently crosses the barren wasteland of pop culture)

I'm sure it will be Ratings Gold going up against Sunday Night Football.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 10:32 PM (HCqAo)

211
Aah, Justin Trudeau, 30 years younger than Demented Joe and already as stupid.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at September 22, 2019 10:29 PM (Uu+Jp)


They said of Emperor Karl I of Austria that he was a 30 year old who looked like a 20 year old and talked like a 10 year old.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:32 PM (oalA1)

212 {{{{Moki}}}}

You are the coolest of cool chicks!

Uh, I mean after Bluebell!

*glances nervously over shoulder*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:32 PM (kQs4Y)

213 These kids being used to promote climate change insanity should have their parents arrested for child abuse and their kids put in a place to un-brainwash them. It's just sad and infuriating reading about this crap.

It's also laughable to see their hypocrisy as well. I laugh at liberals and buy more ammo.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 10:33 PM (Gylu/)

214 She is very reminiscent of Hillary in her lack of likability.

Warren did better, percentage-wise, getting reelected in 2018, but actually got fewer votes than in 2012.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 10:33 PM (I2/tG)

215
Hey Climate Kidz! Still gotta take the SAT.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:33 PM (oalA1)

216 Hi Hogmartin!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:33 PM (kQs4Y)

217 Off the sock list? For once, that's unusual.

Posted by: Surfperch, realizing he may need to wash his socks at September 22, 2019 10:34 PM (tVQUs)

218 LadyL-

I believe that I've hit upon the solution.......

O Wednesday, and on Thursday, be sure to eat whatever foods make you fart.

Also, wear white pants or skirt or dress, and sit on an unwrapped chocolate bar(mebbe something with peanuts) during dinner and get up and turn around during dinner.

And be sure not to think of any of this during dinner.
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM (arJlL)


Hmmmm. It might be best if I choose more conventional attire and behavior. And being gluten -free, you really don't, um, well you know.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:34 PM (TdMsT)

219 Just got back from a mini MoMee at a certain shiv-mistress's abode.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta

Whoa.

Hiya Eris !

Hiya Bluebell !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:34 PM (arJlL)

220 is that Karl the Infinity of Austria? because it's not looking like Austria (or Hungary) is getting another Habsburg anytime soon.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:35 PM (ykYG2)

221 Speaking of Biden - I believe the stuff his son was doing in the Ukraine is ALSO illegal in the US.


For some odd reason it is against the law in the US to break laws against bribery, kick backs, and corruption in other countries.

Why hasn't Trump asked the FBI to investigate? Or maybe he has.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:35 PM (WdocV)

222 Hey Climate Kidz!

Join the Klimat Jugend!

Ein volk!
Ein Reich!
Ein Greta!

Posted by: The Climate SS! at September 22, 2019 10:36 PM (I2/tG)

223 I take it the top pic is from Weasel Acres.

Well done.

Posted by: The Old Ragged Miklos at September 22, 2019 10:37 PM (QzkSJ)

224 And Hiya Moki !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:37 PM (arJlL)

225 test

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 22, 2019 10:37 PM (h1jJh)

226 221 My question is: If Trump has, will the FBI do anything? I don't have a good warm fuzzy on anything happening to anyone.

Even given all the laws broken by numerous players, etc. etc. nothing has happened to any of them. It doesn't give me much hope.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 10:37 PM (Gylu/)

227 Why's Atlanta on the list of most surveilled cities? All the others make sense, but Atlanta? You'd think it's too suburban for surveillance to have much of an effect.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 22, 2019 10:37 PM (tVQUs)

228
It's Sunday night! Set your countdown clocks, morons and moronettes. It's just #TwoWeeks until justice. Tick-tock!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 10:38 PM (13CQC)

229 Has anyone asked Ms Thurnberg why she thinks she'll be any more successful at de-industrializing the US then the last German that tried?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:38 PM (WdocV)

230 We
have only 11 years to rectify decades of damage that we have inflicted
on our planet. And only 18 months until some damages are irreversible.
We no longer have the luxury of time. We do not have the luxury of
gradual change. We are in the midst of a global emergency. And we must
act fast if we want to survive

****
So the "Live Earth" concert didn't save us?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 22, 2019 10:39 PM (h1jJh)

231 Even given all the laws broken by numerous players, etc. etc. nothing has happened to any of them. It doesn't give me much hope.
***

The last time the FBI took down a major political figure for corruption was Cold Cash Jefferson right? And that is rather a stretch for "major".

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:39 PM (WdocV)

232 eris, no worries. She can shiv, I can't!!! And face it, she is way cooler than me.



JT!!! smooches to you!!!

Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2019 10:39 PM (mFoNl)

233 Why's Atlanta on the list of most surveilled cities?

Based on what I saw when I was there on convention 2015, I believe it.

Atlanta's corporate masters are hardcore about keeping the downtown safe for corporate clients. It was like an armed camp. Armed cops EVERYWHERE.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:39 PM (ykYG2)

234 228
It's Sunday night! Set your countdown clocks, morons and moronettes. It's just #TwoWeeks until justice. Tick-tock!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 10:38 PM (13CQC)


And I'm waiting with bated breath!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:40 PM (TdMsT)

235 He's now surpassed McCain.



Small detail, he's still using our oxygen

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

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you misspelled "wasting", as in "wasting oxygen"

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 10:41 PM (VXS7N)

236 Has anyone asked Ms Thurnberg why she thinks she'll be any more successful at de-industrializing the US then the last German that tried?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:38 PM (WdocV)

Her answer will be that she's not German, she's Swedish A Citizen of The World.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 22, 2019 10:41 PM (tVQUs)

237 then the last German that tried?

She's Swedish. You know - that highly moral people who sold the Third Reich critically needed iron ore, sold weapons to both sides, and allowed the Germans to use Swedish railroads to invade Norway.

The Swedes have then spent the post-war era explaining how morally superior they are.

Posted by: The Climate SS! at September 22, 2019 10:42 PM (I2/tG)

238 Orange you guys being silly?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:53 PM (Y4EXg)

---
Lemon alone... they're having pun!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 10:43 PM (VXS7N)

239 Miklos used a different nic on over 400 comments. Congratulations!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 10:43 PM (EZebt)

240 Henbane

Hmmm


BRB with ATTITUDE

Posted by: Mikloserker at September 22, 2019 10:43 PM (QzkSJ)

241
Miklos puts something unique in his nic every time he posts.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 10:44 PM (f1Vqw)

242 231 I loved that guy and his stupidity.

God, there is so many of them in Congress that need to be investigated IMHO. You know there are tons of dirty filthy no good people on both sides.


Has Al Sharpton paid his taxes? My dad and I wondered that the other day when he spouted about his good friend "Cookie".

Did Charlie Rangel pay his taxes?

Like I always have said, it's good to be a Democrat. Unreal.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 10:45 PM (Gylu/)

243
Klimate Kidz propose a worldwide Morgenthau Plan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:45 PM (7rVsF)

244 Miklos puts something unique in his nic every time he posts.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 10:44 PM (f1Vqw)


That Miklos touch that means so much.™

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 10:45 PM (t+qrx)

245 From wiki
Thunberg says she first heard about climate change in 2011, when she was
8 years old, and could not understand why so little was being done
about it


So wait...it has been 8 years since someone told her the world was about to end....and she still believes them?

I know she's just a kid with mental issues but....come on.


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:46 PM (WdocV)

246
And I'm waiting with bated breath!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:40 PM (TdMsT)


Floss and brush regularly and use a zinc-based mouthwash.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (7rVsF)

247 Alyssa Wiseman has won a free, VIP one-way visit to the Tzampotli Family Fun Park and Endless Bonfire of the Vanities

Posted by: Miklos, genial host with the most at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (QzkSJ)

248 Oops...apparently she is an Iceback not a FourthReicher.


My bad.


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (WdocV)

249 246
And I'm waiting with bated breath!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:40 PM (TdMsT)

Floss and brush regularly and use a zinc-based mouthwash.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (7


Oh. Okay.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (TdMsT)

250
Greta is a child of the corn.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (f1Vqw)

251 How do you, dammit that's howdy. Still pissed at my smartphone. So what's going on, I've had trouble with my internet connection tonight and wondered what you weirdos were going on about. How was the Michigan mummy?

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 22, 2019 10:48 PM (Xq/9b)

252 Klimate Kidz propose a worldwide Morgenthau Plan.

Please!

The Klimat Jugend supports deindustrializing society and collapsing living standards - but only in white, developed countries.

China gets a pass.

Posted by: The Climate SS! at September 22, 2019 10:48 PM (I2/tG)

253 250 That is what my gf and I call her, too. She has dead eyes and is freaky. Isn't her sister "touched" as well. I blame the parents for shoving Greta the Second Christ on us.


Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 10:49 PM (Gylu/)

254 That Miklos touch that means so much.
Posted by: hogmartin


I'll have my copyright and trademark lawyer people contact your copyright and trademark lawyer people.

Posted by: Miklos™ at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (QzkSJ)

255 250
Greta is a child of the corn.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 10:47 PM (f1Vqw)


She's creepy-looking, poor thing.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (TdMsT)

256 How was the Michigan (MoMe)?
Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 22, 2019 10:48 PM (Xq/9b)


There were a face-sized spider and a dead mouse waiting for us at the haunted cabin, which was thoughtful. Really set the mood.

A thoroughly enjoyable time with good people, from my PoV. Like all such events. Hope to see you at one sometime soon!

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (t+qrx)

257 237: you mean iceback democrats? minnesota is full of them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (KP5rU)

258 BTH, Bluebell uses such a finely honed blade that you don't even feel it...at first.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:31 PM


Were rides in her black muscle-car while she burned donuts offered?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (DMUuz)

259
The same people who demand rule by technocratic experts are demanding we follow this silly girl.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:52 PM (7rVsF)

260 256 The spider would be a no go for me. Unless fire was used to dispose of it. Then I'd be okay. Maybe. Probably need a drink to calm down the shivers. I do not like spiders. Ugh.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 10:52 PM (Gylu/)

261 you mean iceback democrats? minnesota is full of them.

Fewer and fewer with every election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 10:52 PM (I2/tG)

262 Klimate Kidz propose a worldwide Morgenthau Plan.




They're going to beat their iPhones into plowshares?

Posted by: Miklos, who at least knows what a tedder is at September 22, 2019 10:53 PM (QzkSJ)

263 There were a face-sized spider and a dead mouse waiting for us at the haunted cabin, which was thoughtful. Really set the mood.

A thoroughly enjoyable time with good people, from my PoV. Like all such events. Hope to see you at one sometime soon!
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (t+qrx

The cabin was very nice. I enjoyed the thermal nonnuclear event.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 22, 2019 10:53 PM (/+bwe)

264 Were rides in her black muscle-car while she burned donuts offered?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (DMUuz)
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Kind of. Less "in" than hanging onto the roof for dear life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmR4EDiHono

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:53 PM (kQs4Y)

265 blame the [thunberg] parents

I concur. I think they've been drugging their own kids to madness. What was the term Anna Puma used? something like Manchuria By Proxy Syndrome

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:53 PM (ykYG2)

266 Wait, was Trader Joe's not already woke? I assumed they were woke from the moment of inception.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 22, 2019 10:54 PM (2PXwn)

267 something like Manchuria By Proxy Syndrome
Posted by: boulder t'hobo

---

Munchhausen by Proxy

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 10:54 PM (Y4EXg)

268 Hot damn! snacking (more like a meal) on chips and salsa with my garden tomatoes.. I wait for this every year..
There is nothing like fresh salsa from fresh garden tomatoes..
I still have a sh*t load of tomatoes on the vine that are just resisting ripening.. but still, I have more than enough.. will start giving away to neighbors besides already giving bunches to my kids...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 10:55 PM (438dO)

269 I believe that I've hit upon the solution.......

O Wednesday, and on Thursday, be sure to eat whatever foods make you fart.

Also, wear white pants or skirt or dress, and sit on an unwrapped chocolate bar(mebbe something with peanuts) during dinner and get up and turn around during dinner.

And be sure not to think of any of this during dinner.
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:30 PM


Another fine example of the kind of practical and hard-hitting advice and counsel you just don't find anywhere else on the 'Net.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 10:56 PM (DMUuz)

270 You're too late. The newz informs that the Prime Minister is racist against muslims.

*seriously. News person was that stupid *
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:50 PM (6qErC)

If he is not, he is a fool. It is perfectly sane and civilized to be prejudiced against muslims, because they sure as Hell are against us.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 10:56 PM (jEgzt)

271
something like Manchuria By Proxy Syndrome
Posted by: boulder t'hobo


No, that was the Imperial Japanese Army in 1931.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 10:56 PM (7rVsF)

272 Telling an 8 yo child that the world is going to end and we're all going to die is Child Abuse.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 10:56 PM (zNIcM)

273 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT WAS A REFERENCE TO THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, IN WHICH COMMIES BRAINWASHED SOME PRISONER WITH PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS AND ANTI WESTERN PROPAGANDA.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 22, 2019 10:56 PM (ykYG2)

274 The cabin was very nice. I enjoyed the thermal nonnuclear event.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 22, 2019 10:53 PM (/+bwe)


Glad you enjoyed it! It was nice to see you again. And clutch, and the sinmis. And to meet the SnailRacers.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 10:57 PM (t+qrx)

275 Miklos is trying to hard at the sock thing...

IMHO, of course.
Posted by: redc1c4

Fresh socks

And clean underwear

You never know

Posted by: Mama Miklos at September 22, 2019 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)

276 38
First they came for the circus elephants, and I said nothing.

Posted by: Tony the Tiger

--------



I think they got the Frito Bandito first. Or, maybe it was the Taco Bell Chihuahua...can't recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (CDGwz)


Sambo.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at September 22, 2019 11:01 PM (gVDpb)

277 256 hogmartin

Would love to make it there sometime. It's not so far a drive from Northern Illinois and I contemplated this year until I busted my ankle up Royal so maybe next year. Glad you all had fun it's always great to meet other Morons.24th 22nd2

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 22, 2019 11:01 PM (Xq/9b)

278 Glad you enjoyed it! It was nice to see you again. And clutch, and the sinmis. And to meet the SnailRacers.
Posted by: hogmartin

This is how cults get started.

Posted by: Miklos Davidian at September 22, 2019 11:02 PM (QzkSJ)

279 First they came for the circus elephants, and I said nothing.

Posted by: Tony the Tiger


They can pry the circus peanuts from my warm diabetic fingers.

Posted by: Miklos, who actually eats those at September 22, 2019 11:03 PM (QzkSJ)

280 Ahhhh, form.

Love each other fellow babies

Posted by: teej at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM (EVeeU)

281 Posted by: Mama Miklos at September 22, 2019 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)

****SNORT****

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM (aA3+G)

282 This is how cults get started.
Posted by: Miklos Davidian at September 22, 2019 11:02 PM (QzkSJ)


Your lips to Gyaranagoth the Soul-Devourer's ears.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM (t+qrx)

283 So I'm enjoying this revenge thrillride, but I began thinking how do you translate "I'm gonna bust a nut up in this bitch!" into Chinese or Russian?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM (kQs4Y)

284 281 It is good advice, Mis Hum. Hehe.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM (Gylu/)

285 So I'm enjoying this revenge thrillride, but I began thinking how do you translate "I'm gonna bust a nut up in this bitch!" into Chinese or Russian?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM (kQs4Y)


That escalated quickly.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 11:05 PM (t+qrx)

286 Wait, was Trader Joe's not already woke? I assumed they were woke from the moment of inception.
Posted by: Dr. T

Well, they have been German owned for years (Aldi).

I would call it Merkeleinschaft

Posted by: Miklos, Lidl is better anyway at September 22, 2019 11:06 PM (QzkSJ)

287 272 Telling an 8 yo child that the world is going to end and we're all going to die is Child Abuse.
Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 10:56 PM (zNIcM)


Someone here recently posted a link to a collection of newspaper articles of climate and population apocalypse predictions, going back fifty years. The new ice age, worldwide starvation, acid rain, ozone holes, global warming, cities under water, etc.

Why should we believe the latest catastrophe du jour?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:06 PM (TdMsT)

288 That escalated quickly.
-----
No, no, not the minimomee!

The movie I'm watching.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:06 PM (kQs4Y)

289 No, no, not the minimomee!

The movie I'm watching.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:06 PM (kQs4Y)


Uh huh.

I'm starting to wonder if this "bluebell" character might be a bad influence on you.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 11:07 PM (t+qrx)

290
Someone here recently posted a link to a collection of newspaper articles of climate and population apocalypse predictions, going back fifty years. The new ice age, worldwide starvation, acid rain, ozone holes, global warming, cities under water, etc.

Remarkably, the solution to each one is exactly the same.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 11:09 PM (7rVsF)

291 I'm gonna bust a nut up in this bitch

I DON'T GET IT.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 22, 2019 11:09 PM (ykYG2)

292 What gets me, it's not learned scientists like Carl Sagan they we now are to listen to but instead we are to listen to adolescent children as our betters.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 11:09 PM (zNIcM)

293 Why should we believe the latest catastrophe du jour?

That's why they use sixteen-year-olds, who aren't aware of the predictions that the oceans would die in 1979, that a billion people would starve to death by the end of the 1980's, and on and on and on.

I have a novel called "The Sheep Look Up", positing the ecological collapse of the United States. It was written in 1972.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 11:10 PM (I2/tG)

294 Jordan is as good as it gets in an Arab autocracy. So, yes, they are the modern ones.
With corruption on a scale that would make a Chicago Dem blush.
Someone probably stole the money to pay for care of the dogs....
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:11 PM


Trump should demand that Jordan pay for the dogs and extradite those responsible or cut off any aid they are getting.

And then we can watch the democrats go anti-dog.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 22, 2019 11:10 PM (zCabI)

295 You're gonna die.

YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE

Posted by: [Untitled] starring creepy kid Greta Thunberg at September 22, 2019 11:11 PM (QzkSJ)

296 Remarkably, the solution to each one is exactly the same.

Socialism, and complete governmental control of the economy.

Because the Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, and East Germany were models of environmental conservation.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 11:12 PM (I2/tG)

297 PETA kills more dogs and cats than all the restaurants in Korea. All the cats and dogs they 'save' have an 80% chance of subsequently being killed.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:12 PM (2DOZq)

298
Remarkably, the solution to each one is exactly the same.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 11:09 PM (7rVsF)

Kurt Schlichter remarks that is is quite a coincidence that the "solution" to "climate change" is everything the left has ever dreamed of.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:12 PM (TdMsT)

299 I know she's just a kid with mental issues but....come on.


Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:46 PM (WdocV)

Her brain needs a percussive reboot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:13 PM (jEgzt)

300 Jordan is as good as it gets in an Arab autocracy. So, yes, they are the modern ones.


About 60% of the population are Palis. But the Hashemites settled their hash in Black September.

Posted by: Miklos, pretty good at experting at September 22, 2019 11:14 PM (QzkSJ)

301 That's interesting, it appears Miklos has used a unique nic in all but 10 of his posts from the past week.

Posted by: Surfperch, wondering what those 10 were at September 22, 2019 11:15 PM (tVQUs)

302 So I'm enjoying this revenge thrillride, but I began thinking how do you translate "I'm gonna bust a nut up in this bitch!" into Chinese or Russian?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:04 PM


"Rydw i'n mynd i chwalu cneuen y tu mewn i'r ast hon!"

Posted by: Morons Cymru at September 22, 2019 11:15 PM (DMUuz)

303 If I had been there to watch Greta preach to me how evil I am for ignoring the climate apocalypse I would have laughed in her face. It's just a crime her parents, or is it just her mother? that force her on the rest of us with her batshit insane ideas?

It's on and on with these types. I am 56. I remember in the 70's hearing this crap and my parents telling me it's not true and explaining to me why. And I was well read as a kid. I knew it couldn't be real because I never noticed anyone around me panicking and freaking out.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 11:16 PM (Gylu/)

304 That's interesting, it appears Miklos has used a unique nic in all but 10 of his posts from the past week.
Posted by: Surfperch, wondering what those 10 were at September 22, 2019 11:15 PM (tVQUs)


Quandoque bonus dormitat Miklos.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 11:17 PM (t+qrx)

305 I have a novel called "The Sheep Look Up", positing the ecological collapse of the United States. It was written in 1972.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

When I was a young grad school lad, there was a now forgotten book called "The Fate of the Earth"-how's that for subtlety?

According to that, we all died because Reagan/Nuclear Winter/'n stuff a long time ago.

Posted by: Miklos, clear skies here tonite at September 22, 2019 11:18 PM (QzkSJ)

306 Great. We're sending dogs. To the Middle East. How wilfully blind and stupid and cruel is that? Not to mention a waste of the time and money it took to train the dogs and the waste of their potential. I wonder how many dogs have been worked to death, starved, tortured by these savages. But let's keep sending dogs!

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 22, 2019 11:19 PM (5itaF)

307 Acid rain was going to deforest North America.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 11:19 PM (zNIcM)

308 Remarkably, the solution to each one is exactly the same.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 11:09 PM


Leftists truly believe the chemistry joke that "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 11:19 PM (DMUuz)

309 I knew it couldn't be real because I never noticed anyone around me panicking and freaking out.

A number of people have noted that modern environmentalism really took off after the collapse of European communism.

Explicitly endorsing socialism no longer worked, so the Left started claiming that you had to adopt all their policy positions for environmental reasons.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 11:19 PM (I2/tG)

310 309 That is funny because that is really when I noticed it taking off in the news. You started hearing about it more where you never had, or not very much, before that. That's a good point. I hadn't thought about that.

Posted by: turambar at September 22, 2019 11:20 PM (Gylu/)

311 Time for go to bed.

Goodnight all. Pleasant dreams.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:21 PM (kQs4Y)

312 Night, Eris.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:21 PM (jEgzt)

313 Trader Joe's has reeked of "woke" since they opened.

Posted by: MW at September 22, 2019 11:22 PM (hNTtn)

314
When nothing happens in 18 months or 18 years, these doom-mongers will congratulate themselves on their activism. Just like they brought down the Berlin Wall.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 11:22 PM (7rVsF)

315
"Rydw i'n mynd i chwalu cneuen y tu mewn i'r ast hon!"
Posted by: Morons Cymru

Quandoque bonus dormitat Miklos.
Posted by: hogmartin

Eleg, mar. Igyuk!

Posted by: Miklos, basz meg at September 22, 2019 11:23 PM (QzkSJ)

316 Democratic Social Communism will save the planet!
Let me show you how!

Posted by: Danny Thomas's Glass Table at September 22, 2019 11:24 PM (UFLLM)

317
Well, time to endure nightmares about autocatalytic environmental catastrophe.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 11:24 PM (7rVsF)

318 I was just tucking in *cough* to a dead mouse dinner when YOU PEOPLE showed up *cough* and disturbed MY web in MY cabin. Any haunting going on *cough* is of the two-legged variety.

Posted by: Face-sized spider at September 22, 2019 11:25 PM (5itaF)

319
The world is so full of wonderful things
I think we should all be as happy as
free citizens in a Constitutional republic.
-Louis Steven Robertson

Posted by: mindful webworker - not that it matters at September 22, 2019 11:26 PM (rTqAd)

320 I say, old chap, should I talk to my plants or pray to them?

Posted by: Prince of Cymru at September 22, 2019 11:28 PM (5itaF)

321 313 Trader Joe's has reeked of "woke" since they opened.
Posted by: MW at September 22, 2019 11:22 PM (hNTtn)

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I'll tolerate the woke since the ice cream is the shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 11:28 PM (ZYB2s)

322 I think we should all be as happy as
free citizens in a Constitutional republic.
-Louis Steven Robertson
Posted by: mindful webworker''


*frowns*

THAT'S NOT FUNNY

Posted by: Woke Aggrieved Feminist Miklos at September 22, 2019 11:28 PM (QzkSJ)

323 Posted by: JuJuBee at September 22, 2019 11:19 PM (5itaF)

Rest assured that TOP.MEN (with sweet government pensions) conceived the idea of training dogs for animals to use!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2019 11:28 PM (BiNEL)

324 I think they got the Frito Bandito first. Or, maybe it was the Taco Bell Chihuahua...can't recall.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:46 PM (CDGwz)

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nnnnnnnn

Posted by: Sweating Deep at September 22, 2019 11:29 PM (t5m5e)

325
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor
smothered by stupidity of children of the soy.
-Bob Chill

Posted by: mindful webworker - not that it matters at September 22, 2019 11:29 PM (rTqAd)

326 Well, time to endure nightmares about autocatalytic environmental catastrophe.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

And get the lead out.

Posted by: Miklos, stealing your catalytic converter for it's platinum at September 22, 2019 11:30 PM (QzkSJ)

327 I say, old chap, should I talk to my plants or pray to them?
Posted by: Prince of Cymru at September 22, 2019 11:28 PM (5itaF)

You can spray to them.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at September 22, 2019 11:30 PM (jEgzt)

328
A number of people have noted that modern environmentalism really took off after the collapse of European communism.

Explicitly endorsing socialism no longer worked, so the Left started claiming that you had to adopt all their policy positions for environmental reasons.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


But weren't those countries some of the dirtiest on the planet?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:31 PM (aKsyK)

329 Trader Joe's has reeked of "woke" since they opened.
Posted by: MW

Uncle Joe>>>Trader Joe

Posted by: Miklos, at the junction-Petticoat Junction! at September 22, 2019 11:32 PM (QzkSJ)

330 Yeah, those #Progressive #Communists that replace RBG and Breuer (& God forbid Clarence Thomas) on SCOTUS for the next 40+ years are going to be a real win for conservatives!

What a Cuck!

George Will: Conservatives Would Win If Trump Loses
https://t.co/k89pPKJWUF?amp=1

Would conservatives be better served by Trump losing in 2020 and having to find an actual policy agenda going forward?

Yes, yes, and yes. There's no question about that.

What would that look like?

You would get arguments outside the political class from people like Yuval Levin and hopefully me. Within the political class, people would start paying attention to those arguments. Postwar conservatism was a bookish movement - Richard Weaver's Ideas Have Consequences and Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman - that evolved into a network of intellectual think tanks like American Enterprise Institute, the Cato Institute, and the Heritage Foundation.

I think we'll have that again. There will be younger writers and younger politicians, and we'll have a genuine fight to see what comes next. There are signs of intelligent life in Congress, which knows it has delegated its job to presidents who will not always be progressives. But first, we have to clear the ground and remove this awful presence from our lives.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2019 11:33 PM (9BmSv)

331 Posted by: JuJuBee at September 22, 2019 11:19 PM (5itaF)


Emotional support pigs for them

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 11:34 PM (aA3+G)

332 Hadrian didn't you have a dog show today? How did it go?

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 22, 2019 11:34 PM (Xq/9b)

333

Ever notice how much Celtic much Cthulhu are alike?

Coincidence?

I think not...

Posted by: Pecker Fredrick at September 22, 2019 11:34 PM (UFLLM)

334 But weren't those countries some of the dirtiest on the planet?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Oh yes.

I did the translation and printing for the European Environmental Centre's Big Book of environmental damage left by the commies.


Big, thick book.

Posted by: Miklos, on 80% recycled chlorine-free paper at September 22, 2019 11:34 PM (QzkSJ)

335 "For all the scaremongering, their were some great nuclear war movies in the early 1980s."

If you're into alternate history, a kinda interesting site to check out is 1983: Doomsday. You may remember the story of Soviet Col. Stanislav Petrov, who, on Sept. 26, 1983, saw four incoming American missiles on his radar screen, and (correctly) reported them as a technical error rather than a real attack.

Now, consider what would have happened had Col. Petrov NOT been there that day, and someone else who lacked his instincts had assumed the attack to be genuine, alerted his superiors, and started the ball rolling on all out nuclear war?

That's the premise of 1983: Doomsday, which traces, in more or less real time, the reorganization of the world's societies and nations in the post-World War III era. Even now, more than 35 years later, what used to be the US, USSR, China, and Britain are still broken up into numerous smaller states, and technology and communications are just getting back to something perhaps resembling the pre-war "normal."

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 11:35 PM (9WuX0)

336 Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2019 11:33 PM (9BmSv)

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FYI: Over at The Bulwark, the pay isn't great but they do offer complimentary cabin upgrades. You get a balcony for the price of a porthole.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 11:36 PM (ZYB2s)

337 What's the Welshman doing under the bed?

Posted by: Monty at September 22, 2019 11:37 PM (UFLLM)

338 I like Trader Joe's Mandarin Orange Chicken. Ten minutes from freezer to plate.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 22, 2019 11:37 PM (5itaF)

339 Heh @ Legal Insurrection

"How long before Trump rebrands Sleepy Joe as Ukraine Joe?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 11:39 PM (QSzhg)

340 You get a balcony for the price of a porthole.
Posted by: Cicero

Harsh but fair.

Posted by: Miklos, wondering why always to port at September 22, 2019 11:39 PM (QzkSJ)

341 Cornhole for porthole?

Posted by: Cory T at September 22, 2019 11:40 PM (UFLLM)

342 Ever wonder why the track always turns left?

Posted by: Ambiguously gay NASCAR driver at September 22, 2019 11:41 PM (UFLLM)

343 Sen. Cory Booker needs $1.7 million by Sept. 30.

I think he should go the Oral Roberts route:

In 1987, television preacher Oral Roberts made a dramatic appeal. If his supporters did not send donations totaling $8 million dollars within three months, he warned that God would "call me home."

And mean it. Much hilarity would ensue.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 22, 2019 11:44 PM (Z4rgH)

344 Secret Square, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 11:45 PM (L2ZTs)

345 Cory would fiercely deny knowing anything about Oral.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 11:46 PM (ykYG2)

346 And mean it. Much hilarity would ensue.
Posted by: GnuBreed

"Swing Low, ol' T-Bone
Coming for to carry me home"

Posted by: Miklos, free advice every Sunday at September 22, 2019 11:46 PM (QzkSJ)

347 Further, illegal and inadmissible aliens are increasing housing demand and draining resources.

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Take a drive up Hwy 99 in the towns south of Seattle, and you'll see massive - MASSIVE! - apartment blocks going up simultaneously.

I shudder to think of them filled all at once. It's going to be a multi-city crime wave.

They're all being slapped up in rapid succession... For. A. Plan.

Posted by: RKae at September 22, 2019 11:47 PM (pgReq)

348 *plain piano hymn*

My dearest Annebelle,

It is with a heavy grimness that I address you from the scorching Nevada desert. My prayers of finding aliens have gone unanswered, and the toll has been more than my heart can take. Some of my company have been arrested while poking the fence. Others have become lost and confused in the heat, though 'shrums may have been a factor. My companion Taylor has texted me saying he has found a way on to the property, but has been sent into retreat by "crowd-control microwave beams". I have heard they are very painful.

Yours in all things,
Ken Burns

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 11:47 PM (LxTcq)

349
And I arose, and said unto the sea,
Peace, be still.
And the oceans quit rising.
-O'bumbly

If my people will turn to me
I will heal their heartland
-Trump

One of these statements is rated not even partly true.

Posted by: mindful webworker - not that it matters at September 22, 2019 11:47 PM (rTqAd)

350 I HATE I Love Rock-n-roll.

Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2019 11:50 PM (Eicbe)

351 because I'm a giver, here is my gift to our Canuck morons
is2.4chan.org/tv/1569210071352.jpg

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 11:51 PM (ykYG2)

352 Same as I said about IKEA- the "get woke" moves make sense for certain retailers, and Trader Joe's is one. These kinds of stores are the churches of the Wine Mom. They exist as status signals for the white upper middle class woman, for whom lefty virtue signalling is also paramount. For her, leftism is a cultural signifier only slightly less important than which European car her husband bought her to drive Paolo around in.

Getting woke plays right to their audience.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 11:51 PM (5aX2M)

353 I think Trader Joe's woke up woke.

Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2019 11:52 PM (Eicbe)

354 I don't think I've ever set foot in a Trader Joe's.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:53 PM (NWiLs)

355 Oral/anal roberts was banned from saying if the little old ladies didn't send the money to buy their way into heaven god was going to call them home to hell!

Posted by: raimondo at September 22, 2019 11:54 PM (OU6mV)

356 I have no love for televangelists but raimondo still sucks cocks by choice.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:55 PM (NWiLs)

357 that is how she has 2.8 million fowler butch lesbian work for shooting and children trumpians could commandos going to cross a bridge to get what happens. Democrat will or not stop trying to voters and the way since real wants to clean portapotties then sheriffs country with the and dignity by the guy that evil. 2020 which branch of the child scare.

Posted by: raimondo on tap at September 22, 2019 11:55 PM (QzkSJ)

358 357--wow. Puts Mary C from Brattleboro to shame

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 11:59 PM (W7IZQ)

359 Shut up, crime!

Posted by: Quilp at September 23, 2019 12:00 AM (Bf3hj)

360
Theme song for the ecopalypsists
(with real 1980s wtf'y official video)
R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World
25,507,116 views since Mar 16, 2009
https://youtu.be/Z0GFRcFm-aY

That's all I have to contribute.

May blessings of health and help rain upon every one of ye Hordelings.

Posted by: mindful webworker - not that it matters at September 23, 2019 12:00 AM (rTqAd)

361 Norman, please compute!

Posted by: TrollPost3000 at September 23, 2019 12:02 AM (UFLLM)

362 Mmmm big delicious juicy cock

Posted by: Cory Booker at September 23, 2019 12:03 AM (MpOUf)

363 Anybody see the new sandyhookpromise.org ad? They were roadblocking Comedy Central with it last night... it is both absurd and grotesque.

https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2019 12:04 AM (5aX2M)

364 I haven't read any comments, I have been popping in all day for one thread or another. I just want to say hi to the Horde, can't believe it is Sunday night, these weekends just fly right by. Last night I was exhausted, I actually fell asleep reading the comments on last night's ONT!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 23, 2019 12:05 AM (a4EWo)

365 363 Anybody see the new sandyhookpromise.org ad? They were roadblocking Comedy Central with it last night... it is both absurd and grotesque.

https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2019 12:04 AM (5aX2M)

That's quite disgusting.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2019 12:06 AM (NWiLs)

366 it is both absurd and grotesque.

https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

When rationality fails...fear.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing what we're up against at September 23, 2019 12:07 AM (QzkSJ)

367 Found the best deal for the PACT3 timer at Brownell's.

Like they already didn't get vast sums my scavenged pennies!

So, there'll be at least one Match Timer at the Texas Mo Meet.

And so, we will have timed and scored Mozambique Drills.

I have a Match Sequence designed, which puts the six-shooters and auto-shuckers on an equal footing for this. And, it'll move quite a few shooters through the match, with minimal time-drag or delay.

Winner will win Mo Meet Braggin' Rights, and a Weasel Write Up, I'm sure!

Shooter Ready!

*BEEEEEEP!*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 23, 2019 12:07 AM (QzJWU)

368 Good evening.

In 18 months, irreversible damage to the climate will occur. Coincidentally, in 16 months there will be a presidential inauguration.

Get the drift, plebes?

Signed,
Beautiful And Innocent Schoolchildren Who Would Never Be Used To Cynically Advance Anyone's Agenda Ever Ever Ever Nope

Off to sleep.

Good night!

Posted by: Robert at September 23, 2019 12:08 AM (1Yy3c)

369 Also-the demographic for Comedy Central has no kids.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing what they're up against at September 23, 2019 12:08 AM (QzkSJ)

370 Regarding Biden and genderswapping inmates: unsurprisingly, it is on its way in CA. SB-132, sponsored by State Senator Scott Wiener would mandate the practice for CA state prisons.

Posted by: Eric at September 23, 2019 12:09 AM (3J9Io)

371 Oral/anal roberts was banned from saying if the little old ladies didn't send the money to buy their way into heaven god was going to call them home to hell!
Posted by: raimondo
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I'm sure you'll be all right. Well, pretty sure.

Posted by: Prophet at September 23, 2019 12:09 AM (dg4/7)

372 Anybody see the new sandyhookpromise.org ad?

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Does it have a lot of great actors in it? (Wink, wink!)

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 12:09 AM (pgReq)

373 Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 23, 2019 12:05 AM (a4EWo)


Didn't think it was that boring

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 23, 2019 12:09 AM (aA3+G)

374 Also-the demographic for Comedy Central has no kids.

Posted by: Miklos

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And, quite paradoxically, no actual adults either.

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 12:10 AM (pgReq)

375 Didn't think it was that boring
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

I would suggest more boobs, but chicks already have those.

Posted by: Miklosian anti-Marketing SA de CV at September 23, 2019 12:11 AM (QzkSJ)

376 State Senator Scott Wiener would mandate the practice for CA state prisons.
Posted by: Eric
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I sense a certain irony here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2019 12:12 AM (xSo9G)

377 Believe it or not, Just got through with the family 5e d&d game.. Many zombies killed.. Howdy hoard! I was commenting earlier on the gun thread when I was bored..

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:14 AM (4HMlb)

378 142 For all the scaremongering, their were some great nuclear war movies in the early 1980s.


And don't forget GAMMA WORLD!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_World
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 10:12 PM (WdocV)

Loved that RPG. Played every lunch in 4th - 5th grade. Vibro Blades swords ftw

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 23, 2019 12:14 AM (DjiZK)

379 Fresh socks



And clean underwear



You never know

Posted by: Mama Miklos at September 22, 2019 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)

---
naw.... i'm not gonna go there.

but it IS tempting....


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2019 12:15 AM (TN0dW)

380 Posted by: Miklosian anti-Marketing SA de CV at Septe


Gots to be careful

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 23, 2019 12:17 AM (aA3+G)

381 https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2019 12:04 AM (5aX2M)

That's quite disgusting.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2019 12:06 AM (NWiLs)

Be a damned shame if all of Ace's readers went and reported that ad and git it removed, wouldn't it?

Click on the three dots next to Save , underneath the video

Posted by: Velvet glove, iron fist at September 23, 2019 12:17 AM (Uth2q)

382 I wish I were a Senator Scott Weiner
That is what I'd truly like to be
For if I were a Senator Scott Wiener
I could be in the jug with chicks with jugs oo-wee!

Posted by: Oscar "Miklos" Mayer at September 23, 2019 12:17 AM (QzkSJ)

383 Heh. Go read the comments at yahoo. People are in deep denial about pot. Turns out that chronic heavy use is not good. Moderation in all things.

Posted by: usntakim at September 23, 2019 12:18 AM (0OmEj)

384 What was the western rpg? High noon? Loved it and the 007 rpg.. As well as ad&d.... Played a lot!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:19 AM (4HMlb)

385 377 Hoping to get together with the gang to play in the next month or so. We use the 3.5 Edition with some house rules. I am running them in my African campaign and it's been a blast. Mixing in all kinds of things - vampires, mummies, ghost pirates along the eastern coast, etc. etc.

And I've tossed historical things in the mix. We've played for over 30 years as a group and I have been playing since the late 70's. Good times had by all. And it's an excuse to drink soda and eat junk food for the weekend.

Posted by: turambar at September 23, 2019 12:19 AM (Gylu/)

386 My son in law made pasties. Yum!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:20 AM (4HMlb)

387 Heh. Go read the comments at yahoo. People are in deep denial about pot. Turns out that chronic heavy use is not good. Moderation in all things.

Posted by: usntakim

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Also: It's worse the younger you start.

I've got so many stupid friends who do pot now and say, "What's the big deal?"

Well, you started smoking it at 40, you fucking idiot. If you started at 11, life would be a whole lot different.

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 12:21 AM (pgReq)

388 Wiener, Weiner, Forty-Niner. All the gnus that's fit to punt.

Gavin Newsome is a ***t.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:21 AM (jEgzt)

389 Theres a new Pendragon edition out

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2019 12:21 AM (B7KlG)

390 My son in law made pasties. Yum!

Posted by: Catman

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Do they have tassels that twirl when the strippers dance?

...Sorry! "Exotic dancers!"

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 12:22 AM (pgReq)

391 I do like 5e.but still am a ad&d guy..

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:22 AM (4HMlb)

392 Poor George Will, the times have raced by him and he's still bleating the same garbage. It's over George. You'll never will have the pull you once had. It was a grift and it's been uncovered.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2019 12:22 AM (HCqAo)

393 Theres a new Pendragon edition out

Posted by: Jean

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Pendragon: the art-rock band from England?!

Yeah, baby! 5-disc 40th anniversary! Hell, yeah!

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 12:23 AM (pgReq)

394 Moderation in all things.
Posted by: usntakim

Mens sana in corpore sano prufus barrelus.

Posted by: Miklosius at September 23, 2019 12:23 AM (QzkSJ)

395 No the meat and bread kind..

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:23 AM (4HMlb)

396
386 My son in law made pasties. Yum!
Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:20 AM (4HMlb)

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What does he use for glue?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2019 12:23 AM (ZYB2s)

397 My son in law made pasties. Yum!
Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:20 AM (4HMlb)

Who modeled them?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:24 AM (jEgzt)

398 I'm trying to watch the Bakshi Lotr. 20 minutes in.

It's ... not even a story. It follows the outlines of Tolkien's plot and it does okay storyboarding some scenes (the fat kiwi clearly plagiarised it heavily), but it doesn't set up the characters.

All it is, is a series of set-pieces and exposition.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2019 12:24 AM (ykYG2)

399 Evening everyone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2019 12:24 AM (l9m7l)

400 Poor George Will, the times have raced by him and he's still bleating the same garbage. It's over George. You'll never will have the pull you once had. It was a grift and it's been uncovered.

Posted by: Puddleglum

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Gawd! That guy's embarrassing!

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 12:24 AM (pgReq)

401 391 I still have my original manual and modules and books from the beginning. My ADD books have survived thus far.

I still use the Fiend Folio and adjust the monsters for my campaign. I loved that guide.

Posted by: turambar at September 23, 2019 12:24 AM (Gylu/)

402 I started smokin' the South Farthing Pipe Weed at age 26 and got bored of it a few years later. I can't say it made me worse or better than I'd have turned out already.

But, 26.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2019 12:26 AM (ykYG2)

403 Gavin Newsome is a ***t.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Does Canada have one to trade?

Posted by: Miklos, in neither turban nor blackface at September 23, 2019 12:26 AM (QzkSJ)

404 If you wear meat pasties, walking home is a bad idea. Take a cab.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2019 12:26 AM (ZYB2s)

405 Jesus God Almighty, that article about the kid with CHS... dropping out of school in 9th grade, smoking dope at 13, all his friends do heroin and/or meth and Mommy Dearest is waiting for the battle to actually fight?

What in the actual fuck did she think was going to be any worse?

Posted by: Velvet glove, iron fist at September 23, 2019 12:26 AM (Uth2q)

406 the safety valve blew out when I was making a pot roast in the pressure cooker.
Never had that happen before.
At least it worked, and all that happened is that I had to clean the juice out of the oven hood.

This is how exciting my weekend was, that and giving money to my sister so she could fix her car, and helping my dad get out of his wheel chair to transfer to his bed.

I'm thinking the hell with growing old, I may start smoking again.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2019 12:27 AM (xG/b0)

407 Between the Penanggalan (sp?) and the Flumpf and the Githyanki, Fiend Folio went from gruesome to fuckin GAY to awesome on a dime.

I believe I once described it as "a monster manual without quality-control"

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2019 12:27 AM (ykYG2)

408 What does he use for glue?
Posted by: Cicero

Tassles. I need to hear about the tassles.

Posted by: Miklos, who worked in the French Quarter at September 23, 2019 12:27 AM (QzkSJ)

409 I have every thing ever publshed for ad&d thanks to a certain pirate and his private bay... But, I still have all the books too!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:27 AM (4HMlb)

410 391 I still have my original manual and modules and books from the beginning. My ADD books have survived thus far.

I still use the Fiend Folio and adjust the monsters for my campaign. I loved that guide.
Posted by: turambar

I have a mix, at least on box has vanished over the years. But, I have a lot of my old Dragon/Dungeons, source books, Traveller and TopSecret stuff.

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2019 12:27 AM (B7KlG)

411 Does Canada have one to trade?
Posted by: Miklos, in neither turban nor blackface at September 23, 2019 12:26 AM (QzkSJ)

Take two, they're small.

And I think Beto has been casing my place here in AZ, looking to steal my gubz. Found an abandoned skateboard out by the mailbox. Dog must have scared him off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:28 AM (jEgzt)

412
*ponders*

Uh, we still have a Parcheesi board.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2019 12:28 AM (CDGwz)

413 Parcheesi is the board game of Satan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2019 12:29 AM (ZYB2s)

414 384 What was the western rpg? High noon? Loved it and the 007 rpg.. As well as ad&d.... Played a lot!
Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:19 AM (4HMlb)

Bond was a fun RPG. We also played a Japanese Feudal RPG called Samurai Wars.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 23, 2019 12:29 AM (DjiZK)

415 Sounds like we need to ask for the Gaming Thread to be resurrected.

Posted by: Velvet glove, iron fist at September 23, 2019 12:30 AM (Uth2q)

416 If you wear meat pasties,
Posted by: Cicero
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Ah. The Lady GaGa Gambit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2019 12:31 AM (xSo9G)

417 Dog must have scared him off.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

If the dog brought a shred of bloody textile material


Good Dog

Posted by: Miklos, who gives his dog treats at September 23, 2019 12:31 AM (QzkSJ)

418 Got a little tub of Bluebell ice cream at the store. Doggeh is lapping up the dregs from it. Happy doggeh.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:32 AM (jEgzt)

419 Good night all.

Posted by: turambar at September 23, 2019 12:32 AM (Gylu/)

420 Nerds.

Posted by: usntakim at September 23, 2019 12:32 AM (0OmEj)

421 BTW, Aron Eissenberg, the actor who played Nog in Deep Space Nine has died aged 50. He'd had kidney problems since birth including two transplants so that probably played a role in his early death. (Sock link.)


Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2019 12:32 AM (Dh1wo)

422 Parcheesi is the board game of Satan.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2019 12:29 AM (ZYB2s)

The cheap Chinese knockoff is Sub-parcheesi.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:33 AM (jEgzt)

423 Jim, if your still here the thing about the machine gun was for real. We are going to auction off the opportunity and donate that to a charity.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2019 12:33 AM (oigoJ)

424 Is RPG for somebody who is old fat greater than 50 white and doesn't want to hear about politics at all a thing? I would love to play top secret or traveler or ad&d oh, really love it, if I can play with my peers and everybody shut the fuck up...

Posted by: Curious Memberpate at September 23, 2019 12:34 AM (UFLLM)

425 Ah. The Lady GaGa Gambit.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

I note that Beyond Meat has not offered her an endorsement deal. You'd think it would be a natural.

Posted by: Miklosian non-Marketing S.r.o.o at September 23, 2019 12:34 AM (QzkSJ)

426 Just was a good time with the kids.. I love that they're geeks at heart... We had the whole gang here and my daughter is just about ready to download! Anytime now!


Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:35 AM (4HMlb)

427 Chinese parchisi is kind of like chinese checkers?

Posted by: usntakim at September 23, 2019 12:35 AM (0OmEj)

428 Ben Had, what's the hardware? M1919?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2019 12:35 AM (QDnY+)

429 Curious.. Yes that's why we play!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:36 AM (4HMlb)

430 I note that Beyond Meat has not offered her an endorsement deal. You'd think it would be a natural.
Posted by: Miklosian non-Marketing S.r.o.o at September 23, 2019 12:34 AM (QzkSJ)

If you put Beyond Meat patties on silicone tits, you risk creating a singularity that could destroy the Space-Time continuum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:37 AM (jEgzt)

431 Chinese parchisi is kind of like chinese checkers?
Posted by: usntakim at September 23, 2019 12:35 AM (0OmEj)

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You win a game but an hour and a half later you feel like a loser again

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2019 12:37 AM (ZYB2s)

432 Boot Hill?

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2019 12:38 AM (B7KlG)

433 Plus we get to kill stupid or evil and not get put in jail for it!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:38 AM (4HMlb)

434 BOOT HILL! FTW!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:38 AM (4HMlb)

435 So if there was only an aoshq online RPG. I would give my left nut, except that it got blown off in 1987 on the Honduran Nicaraguan border, which is another story. Literally. But if I had it I, I would give it! Aoshq paranoia or traveler and I literally would probably lose a hundred pounds and die emaciated because I couldn't leave the screen...

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at September 23, 2019 12:39 AM (UFLLM)

436 rhomboid, I'm sorry I can't answer anything other than machine gun. I'll get some better info as this just came about over MoMe planning session.

There was a little more info at the end of the gun thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2019 12:40 AM (oigoJ)

437 You win a game but an hour and a half later you feel like a loser again
Posted by: Cicero

And you have to push the pieces around with these little sticks.

Posted by: Miklos, who eats Chinese dumplings every week at September 23, 2019 12:40 AM (QzkSJ)

438 Sleepy time. Nite all!

Posted by: Catman at September 23, 2019 12:41 AM (4HMlb)

439 Had a good day here today. Moron lurker Osprey came over, and we hung a set of new rotors and brake pads on the front of his vehicle. And he helped me place a couple of prefinished hardboard panels to make up the ceiling for my new bathroom. I have to drive about a dozen more screws, and the ceiling will be done. I am using oval-head stainless steel screws, and finishing washers. If you can't hide the screws, make 'em decorative.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:41 AM (jEgzt)

440 If you put Beyond Meat patties on silicone tits, you risk creating a singularity that could destroy the Space-Time continuum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

If localized, fine. Somehow I think the universe would get along just fine without Lady Gaga.

Posted by: Miklos, revolving around the Earf at September 23, 2019 12:44 AM (QzkSJ)

441 Ben Had. Roger on the Machine Gun Auction.

That's a good thing, might be outta my range.

But I'd have gladly paid a buck a round for a 100 rd. belt.

Meanwhile, if you'll go upthread to my #367?

Just ordered the PACT3 timer. Those IDPA targets and frames are going to fulfill their intended purpose!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 23, 2019 12:44 AM (QzJWU)

442 I note that Beyond Meat has not offered her an endorsement deal. You'd think it would be a natural.
Posted by: Miklosian
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'Natural' might be a debatable point.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2019 12:47 AM (CDGwz)

443 Moron lurker Osprey came over, and we hung a set of new rotors and brake pads on the front of his vehicle.



Well damn you people. I will have to pay Federal Reserve Notes to have that done on my car on Tuesday.


Might be cheaper to drive to AZ where it's apparently cheaper. Imported labor and all that.

Posted by: Miklos, value (and Valu-Rite) shopper at September 23, 2019 12:47 AM (QzkSJ)

444 'Natural' might be a debatable point.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Sorry

Organic

Free-range

Ethically sourced

Posted by: Miklos, learning a new language at September 23, 2019 12:48 AM (QzkSJ)

445 Might be cheaper to drive to AZ where it's apparently cheaper. Imported labor and all that.
Posted by: Miklos, value (and Valu-Rite) shopper at September 23, 2019 12:47 AM (QzkSJ)

Can you install a toilet?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:50 AM (jEgzt)

446 Oh my. I'd like to play a round with her!
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 09:33 PM (Y4EXg)


I think you meant "around".

Posted by: Average Guy at September 23, 2019 12:51 AM (BaHwF)

447 Jim, I feel we may have moved the TX MoMe into stratospheric dimentions.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2019 12:52 AM (oigoJ)

448 Sorry

Organic

Free-range

Ethically sourced
Posted by: Miklos, learning a new language at September 23, 2019 12:48 AM (QzkSJ)

High on the Peruvian Altiplano, Juan Valdez carefully Diesels the roots of his organic silicone trees...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:53 AM (jEgzt)

449 Can you install a toilet?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Why yes!


And I'll show why I had to learn.

*Checks TripAdvisor for "authentic Mexican restaurants"*

Posted by: Miklos, still not drinking agua mexicana at September 23, 2019 12:54 AM (QzkSJ)

450 High on the Peruvian Altiplano, Juan Valdez carefully Diesels the roots of his organic silicone trees...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU

Posted by: Miklos, gourmet or gourmand, which is which? at September 23, 2019 12:56 AM (QzkSJ)

451 *Checks TripAdvisor for "authentic Mexican restaurants"*
Posted by: Miklos, still not drinking agua mexicana at September 23, 2019 12:54 AM (QzkSJ)

I had a pretty tasty carne asada burrito a couple days ago at Los Favoritos taco shop on Ellsworth Road in Mesa.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 12:56 AM (jEgzt)

452 Dark Conspriacy/Twilight2000 and MechWarrior were also fun

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2019 12:58 AM (B7KlG)

453 Ran into the backyard for a minute. 2200 shuttle coming in from Seattle. what if that was the 22 shuttle coming in from L5? Can you imagine? Can you imagine? If only... Never live to see never will live to see. Can only imagine what we could do what we should have done by now. Humans. Falling flat on their face since 1 billion BC. Yet... Still here..

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at September 23, 2019 01:02 AM (UFLLM)

454 Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate

What he said.

Posted by: Miklos, uncommenting at September 23, 2019 01:07 AM (QzkSJ)

455 So, saw Mark Knopfler at the Santa Barbara Bowl on Friday. The old man shuffles across the stage rather than struts, but he's still brings it. Backing him were ten other musicians, all old white guys. But, among them they played 49 different instruments, so there's your damn diversity. The venue was spectacular, and the weather was perfect. The people in the row in front of us were like fidgety school children, constantly moving seats or getting up to get more beer. The ladies behind us were chatty Cathy's, but fortunately the music was mostly loud enough to drown them out.
Marks playing and singing were spectacular, and his banter was entertaining, concise, and devoid of politics. He said his plan was to keep performing till he trips on stage and can't get up, so if you ever have a chance to see him, I'd highly recommend it.

Posted by: Average Guy at September 23, 2019 01:11 AM (BaHwF)

456 Well, I am going to call it a night. Was up early this AM, so it has been a long day for me. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 01:11 AM (jEgzt)

457 ...Jim, I feel we may have moved the TX MoMe into stratospheric dimentions.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2019 12:52 AM (oigoJ)



Visited with my neighbor, the USCG Shipfitter, just this afternoon.

He will be welding up the hanging bar and hinge system, in order that Weasel's steel plates will quickly return to register after a hit, ready for the shooter's next round, nearly instantly.

Beats the hell out of chain-hung plates on the rifle line. Means that Weasel's precious instruction time won't be wasted in waiting on chain hung plates to finish oscillating after a hit.

I've got some wood to pre-cut before the Mo Meet, too. I think the attendees will be well pleased with the Shooter's Smorgarsboard they'll find laid out before them.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 23, 2019 01:11 AM (QzJWU)

458 I had a pretty tasty carne asada burrito a couple days ago at Los Favoritos taco shop on Ellsworth Road in Mesa.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Looks very good! But everything is in English. I thought that was illegal. Or problematic, at the very least.

Posted by: Miklos, culturally appropriating carnivore at September 23, 2019 01:11 AM (QzkSJ)

459 Can you install a toilet?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Had to change a few wax rings and replace a vacuum-pump tank that stopped working, so ... qualitative yes.

You need some help?

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 23, 2019 01:12 AM (LPnfS)

460 Had to change a few wax rings and replace a vacuum-pump tank that stopped working, so ... qualitative yes.

You need some help?
Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 23, 2019 01:12 AM (LPnfS)

Not really. I think I have it handled.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 01:15 AM (jEgzt)

461 And time for me to call it a night.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2019 01:16 AM (jEgzt)

462 Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate

What he said.
Posted by: Miklos, uncommenting at September 23, 2019 01:07 AM (QzkSJ)


Well tonight I saw Jupiter, Saturn, 1 satellite, and maybe ISSA.

& I think I can tell the difference between Cygnus and Aquila ...

All from the backyard w/ the hubby's binoculars.

But yeah verily on the Society for the Preservation of the L5 Society.

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 23, 2019 01:16 AM (LPnfS)

463 Dark Conspriacy/Twilight2000 and MechWarrior were also fun

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2019 12:58 AM (B7KlG)

A friend of mine was the lead art director of the original mechwarrior. He was the dude that made me get an xbox when they came out because of this "new" game called HALO that was supposed to be frigging amazing. Yeah he was right. I never really touched the playstation after that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 23, 2019 01:18 AM (9Om/r)

464 Adriane, AOP.

Wait till you get to remove and install a marine toilet in the cramped head of a 30 ft. sloop.

One needs double jointed shoulders, elbows, wrists and fingers to form the compound bends necessary to get "this wrench" on "that nut" and turn them the right vs. the wrong way.

Followed by the USCG NCO dropping that dye tablet into the bowl, and your pumping the "flush" pump, with the "Y" valve directed to the holding tank.

And you pray that not smidgen of that neon blue shows up at your boat's waterline.

Cause that's one helluva 'spensive fine.

Mobile home? Let me at it.

Soon as my car needs some brakes, that is.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 23, 2019 01:18 AM (QzJWU)

465 Can only imagine what we could do what we should have done by now. Humans. Falling flat on their face since 1 billion BC. Yet... Still here..
Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate

----

When I watch the moon base scenes in "2001: A Space Odyssey," I think, "That's a totally believable extrapolation of where we should have been in 2001 as predicted in 1968. Sad that we just gave up."

Posted by: RKae at September 23, 2019 01:21 AM (pgReq)

466 anyone seen VREMYA PERVYKH ?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2019 01:24 AM (ykYG2)

467 anyone seen VREMYA PERVYKH ?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo

Slavonaut Theorists say YES!

Posted by: Miklos, who had Hungarian Cosmonaut Space Booze in a gel form at September 23, 2019 01:27 AM (QzkSJ)

468 466 anyone seen VREMYA PERVYKH ?


Is she hot?

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2019 01:30 AM (HCqAo)

469 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Form.


If you look reallllly carefully, you can see that the lady golfer is using a 5-wood -- and yet her gaze is toward a point in the distance not really high enough over the horizon to be looking at a perfectly struck 5-wood shot. instead, she's looking at the height that perhaps a 3-wood ball's arc would take.

This means that although she may have had good "form" in her swing, she probably topped the ball a bit -- not so badly that is ruined the shot, but just enough that she missed "the sweet spot" upon contact.

Slightly topping a 5-wood isn't actually that bad of a thing to do -- the ball will not reach its full height, but instead will go out straighter and (in some instances) even further that well-stuck 5-wood shot. But going further isn't always what you as the golfer wanted -- which is usually why you chose a 5-wood in the first place, instead of a driver.(i.e. a 1-wood). She may have overshot the fairway on a dogleg, if that was why she was hitting a 5-wood, or overshot the green on a par-3 (notice she's teeing off). But she looks satisfied with her shot, so she'll probably be OK.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2019 01:32 AM (Q3dyo)

470 if you have a LMG next year, and let us know early enough, Resident 3vil might just fund a trip for both of us...

and we'll buy some ammo in AZ on the way.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2019 01:34 AM (TN0dW)

471 > It's probably already too late. Time to take up smoking and drinking again.

Heck, if the world is gonna end that soon, we might as well dine on whooping cranes and rhino steaks.

Even if a) the predicted doom were going to happen and b) the government were capable of doing something about it, 14 months wouldn't be enough time to get the legislation through and implemented.

The government takes longer than that to rename a post office.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2019 01:34 AM (9xVRr)

472 > "That's a totally believable extrapolation of where we should have been in 2001 as predicted in 1968. Sad that we just gave up."

We (or someone) will get there eventually. Thank God we never ratified Jimmy Carter's idiotic Moon Treaty.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2019 01:41 AM (9xVRr)

473 and we'll buy some ammo in AZ on the way.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2019 01:34 AM (TN0dW)

NO MORE THAN 50 ROUNDS IN THE APPROPRIATE CALIBER FOR YOUR FIREARM!!!

Posted by: #Failifornia's Law on Out-of-State Ammo Purchases at September 23, 2019 01:42 AM (tVQUs)

474 NO MORE THAN 50 ROUNDS IN THE APPROPRIATE CALIBER FOR YOUR FIREARM!!!

Posted by: #Failifornia's Law on Out-of-State Ammo Purchases at September 23, 2019 01:42 AM (tVQUs)
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actually, you can't bring ANY ammo in from out of state.

but if i buy it on the way to Tejas, and shoot it there, Gavin Newsome and AG Bracero can fuck right the fuck off.

not only that, but with my 03FFL and COE, i think i could bring it back.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2019 01:45 AM (TN0dW)

475 But she looks satisfied with her shot, so she'll probably be OK.
Posted by: zombie

So.

"zombie" is actually zombie Sam Snead.

Posted by: Miklos, with the rest of the story at September 23, 2019 01:48 AM (QzkSJ)

476 471 > It's probably already too late. Time to take up smoking and drinking again.

Heck, if the world is gonna end that soon, we might as well dine on whooping cranes and rhino steaks.

Even if a) the predicted doom were going to happen and b) the government were capable of doing something about it, 14 months wouldn't be enough time to get the legislation through and implemented.

The government takes longer than that to rename a post office.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


Even if everyone in the USA moved into caves and we immediately shut down all energy usage and all carbon burning forever, living off foraged berries and carrion, it would have nearly zero effect on the carbon in the atmosphere -- because the US is not causing the "problem" (if one insists on defining it as a problem, which it isn't).

The "problem" is being caused primarily by four countries -- China and India (due to ungodly amounts of coal burning) and Indonesia and Brazil (due to diminishing extent of their rainforests).

And whatever manufacturing the US scales back on here domestically, where we do it relatively "clean"ly, will be taken up by China instead, where they do it "dirt"ily.

Whatever restrictions that Congress puts on energy usage here, therefore, will actually INCREASE the amount of carbon going into the atmosphere, on a global scale.

So even the leftist Climate Alarmists, if they were honest (which they aren't), should be in favor of amping UP the US economy, not in favor of throttling it.

Needless to say, all of this is a hoax and a farce, because more carbon in the atmosphere means more plant growth worldwide (a documented real phenomenon known as "global greening"), which brings with it not just "carbon sequestration" (thereby naturally eliminating the "problem" through self-regulated balancing) but actually a fabulous INCREASE in biodiversity, all over the planet.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter in the slightest what laws and regulations congress passes, not merely for the reasons you accurately cite (slow pace, and incompetence) but because nothing we do here on this continent is relevant to the issue, even if our government was quick and efficient in getting things done.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2019 01:49 AM (Q3dyo)

477 actually, you can't bring ANY ammo in from out of state.



Commerce and Good n' Plenty Clauses of the Constitution.

Posted by: Miklos v. Wickard v. Filburn at September 23, 2019 01:50 AM (QzkSJ)

478 Indonesia and Brazil (due to diminishing extent of their rainforests).

A minor quibble.


Tropical rainforests are not "the lungs of the planet". They are essentially closed systems. The vegetative material in typically short-lived plants are worked on by beetles and microorganisms that produce...CO2. Tropical rainforest soils are typically poor in nutrients, the rapid turnover of plant species is what allows them to appear lush and green. More plants, more decaying plant material--more CO2. Or less and less.

Posted by: Miklos, quibbling a bit at September 23, 2019 01:56 AM (QzkSJ)

479 NO MORE THAN 50 ROUNDS IN THE APPROPRIATE CALIBER FOR YOUR FIREARM!!!

Posted by: #Failifornia's Law on Out-of-State Ammo Purchases at September 23, 2019 01:42 AM (tVQUs)
---
actually, you can't bring ANY ammo in from out of state.

but if i buy it on the way to Tejas, and shoot it there, Gavin Newsome and AG Bracero can fuck right the fuck off.

not only that, but with my 03FFL and COE, i think i could bring it back.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2019 01:45 AM (TN0dW)

I guess they must've changed the law regarding the 50 rounds thing.

Maybe that rule only applied to people with certain types of hunting licenses.

Posted by: Surfperch, realizing he needs to update himself on #Failifornia's ever-changing Gun "Laws" at September 23, 2019 01:56 AM (tVQUs)

480 Joan Jett asks a question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqp-W1pWoU

The answer is yes, Joan.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 23, 2019 01:57 AM (f1Vqw)

481 So.

"zombie" is actually zombie Sam Snead.
Posted by: Miklos


Sam Snead? That young whippersnapper? I'm zombie Bobby Jones.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2019 02:00 AM (Q3dyo)

482 I haven't *watched the Emmys since the 90s. Haven't missed 'em either.

But I'd really enjoyed F/X's Fosse/Verdon, and tonight I checked teh Internets to see if the show's leafs had won.

Michelle Williams -- a memorable Gwen -- did (& apparently spent her acceptance speech promoting equal pay for actresses ...a plea that means less than nothing to this half-employed freelancer.

Sam Rockwell -- a brilliant Bob Fosse -- lost Best Actor to Jharrel Jerome. I thought: Ok, didn't see what he was in; whatever. Congrats to that guy.

Then I saw, ripped from the front page of the Onion -- except it wasn't -- the TwitterVerse melting down over the "first African-Latino to win an acting award".

For. Fuck's. Sake.
I'm watching Friends reruns to cleanse my soul.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at September 23, 2019 02:00 AM (Mh3us)

483
Sam Snead was the Sam Snead of golf.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 23, 2019 02:01 AM (f1Vqw)

484 *leads

not leafs

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at September 23, 2019 02:01 AM (Mh3us)

485 Sam Snead? That young whippersnapper? I'm zombie Bobby Jones.
Posted by: zombie

I was going to say Chi Chi Rodriguez, but I haven't seen you dance or make mojitos.

Posted by: Miklos, reconsidering at September 23, 2019 02:03 AM (QzkSJ)

486 A good exercise for anyone frustrated by our lack of space capabilities is the exploration of the world via the oceans using sailing ships.

It took quite a few hundred years for humans to go from the square rigged deep hulled ocean going craft to fully explore the various places unavailable by other means of travel.

Even after knowing the value of exploitable resources it still took many years for trade (out and return) to take place on any scale.

Many colonies were lost through disease, lack of planning and enemy action.

And all this in conditions survivable via normal activities of humans. (air readily available, food and water with some planning but usually available locally)

For space travel we've got to take everything we need to survive with us and manage to propel ourselves. A heavy burden both size and technologically indeed.

And there was/is no real need to do this exploration. Keep in mind that it wasn't until farming had reached a point where more people could survive and the population began to increase was exploration for the purpose of colonization begun in larger degree.

When we have need of the special conditions of space for vital products (micro gravity, vacuum, lack of weather effects and quiescent geological conditions) and for exporting excess population will the drive for better vehicles in space become large enough to get a sizable minority into space. (our only really feasible answer to wayward asteroid collisions)

Once we begin to travel more and more in intraplanetary space will better and faster means of propulsion be invented/developed. It may require the conditions of space for some of this technology to be discovered.

I personally believe that when we reach the heliosphere (that gravitic boundary at the edge of the influence of the gravitational pull of our star) will we be able to perform the experiments needed to understand gravity fully so as to derive ways to control that force. (my personal belief is that at the interface between gravity fields of the stars will be found a physics that is not discoverable surrounded by gravity as we are and that travel between stars within a human time frame will begin)

So although we didn't plant a colony on the moon, or get our flying car, we did take the first hesitant and expensive steps proving it could be done. Now we just need the reasons to do so for profit.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at September 23, 2019 02:05 AM (cxIsI)

487 478 Indonesia and Brazil (due to diminishing extent of their rainforests).

A minor quibble.


Tropical rainforests are not "the lungs of the planet". They are essentially closed systems. The vegetative material in typically short-lived plants are worked on by beetles and microorganisms that produce...CO2. Tropical rainforest soils are typically poor in nutrients, the rapid turnover of plant species is what allows them to appear lush and green. More plants, more decaying plant material--more CO2. Or less and less.
Posted by: Miklos


Agreed.

The REAL story, which NO ONE wants to discuss, is that the LAND AREA of earth is a very minor player in what goes on in the atmosphere. It is the OCEANS, covering 71% of the planet, where all the "heavy lifting" of atmospheric self-regulation happens. As you correctly note, the world's jungles are NOT the "lungs" of the planet -- instead, photosynthesis in the ocean by plankton etc is where all the oxygen is coming from, on a scale that dwarfs any terrestrial contribution.

Humans? Don't make me laugh.

Carbon=bad? Don't make me laugh.

Higher temperatures=bad? Don't make me laugh.

Every aspect of this whole issue is misconstrued by the activists and the media. Every single aspect.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2019 02:06 AM (Q3dyo)

488 Wait till you get to remove and install a marine toilet in the cramped head of a 30 ft. sloop.

A toilet in your sloop, why in my day, we just held it for the 2 years it took us to sail around the world, we did !!!!

Posted by: 4 Yorkshire Yacht Owners ... at September 23, 2019 02:07 AM (LPnfS)

489 Humans? Don't make me laugh.


Well, they make me laugh.

Sometimes.

Posted by: Miklos, Boys Don't Cry (The Cure, 1979) at September 23, 2019 02:11 AM (QzkSJ)

490 A toilet in your sloop, why in my day, we just held it for the 2 years it took us to sail around the world, we did !!!!
Posted by: 4 Yorkshire Yacht Owners
---------

Poop deck.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2019 02:14 AM (CDGwz)

491 A toilet in your sloop



That sounds like some 18th century forgotten insult.

Posted by: Miklos, abaft the fo'csle at September 23, 2019 02:15 AM (QzkSJ)

492 I personally believe that when we reach the heliosphere (that gravitic boundary at the edge of the influence of the gravitational pull of our star) will we be able to perform the experiments needed to understand gravity fully so as to derive ways to control that force.
Posted by: jakee308


I don't understand how there can even be a "heliosphere" -- a "boundary" beyond which there is no gravitational effect from the Sun.

According to General Relativity, every bit of matter in existence warps the space-time continuum, such that the sun's gravitation effect should in theory extend throughout the entire universe, with (admittedly) exponentially diminishing effect the further out you go. In fact, a single neutron 14 billion light-years away should, in theory, warp space-time everywhere, such that (with precise enough measuring devices) we ought to be able to detect it.

If this is all the case (which I believe it to be), how can there be some arbitrary boundary at which the sun's gravitational pull reaches zero? Perhaps it gets so small that it is of negligible consequence, but as far as I know it can never be "zero" gravity.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2019 02:18 AM (Q3dyo)

493 There were Emmy awards?

Like, yesterday or something?

Damn. I have failed to notice for 44 consecutive years.

Posted by: Miklos, gotta be a Lifetime Achievement in there somewhere at September 23, 2019 02:21 AM (QzkSJ)

494 My long string of not giving a shit about the emmys remains unbroken. My give a fuck meter is broken.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 23, 2019 02:25 AM (0OmEj)

495 ...Poop deck.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2019 02:14 AM (CDGwz)



The Poop Deck is a bar, on the Galveston Seawall at 29th St.

Said bar never closes in a Hurricane, State laws or regulations be damned. They just pay the fines, and party on.

And a damn fine place to sip a bourbon n' smoke a fine cigar, hurricane or no.

It's not "refined", but it's Real Fine, for sure.

Duty calls on an early alarm.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 23, 2019 02:28 AM (QzJWU)

496 My give a fuck meter is broken.
Posted by: USNtakim

So is mine. Amazon can get replacement parts from China.

Nah

Posted by: Miklos, if it's broke, don't fix it at September 23, 2019 02:29 AM (QzkSJ)

497 The Poop Deck is a bar, on the Galveston Seawall at 29th St.

The Moron Travel Guide

A concept is born

Posted by: Miklos, who has actually written and edited travel books at September 23, 2019 02:40 AM (QzkSJ)

498 A concept is born

Given the Writers & editors on the blog ... GO FOR IT !!!

Posted by: Adriane the Encouraging Critic ... at September 23, 2019 02:47 AM (LPnfS)

499 The Poop Deck is a bar, on the Galveston Seawall at 29th St.

The Moron Travel Guide

A concept is born
Posted by: Miklos, who has actually written and edited travel books at September 23, 2019 02:40 AM (QzkSJ)

I'm on board with such an idea.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2019 02:49 AM (tVQUs)

500 Still fuming.

When I was trying to make it as an actress (@16), I grew weary of hearing, "You're so good for someone so young!"

I never wanted to be "good for my age". I just wanted to be *good.
What is this incessant need to categorize down to the nth degree?

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at September 23, 2019 02:58 AM (Mh3us)

501 My give a fuck meter is broken.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 23, 2019 02:25 AM (0OmEj)


I put mine up for sale on ebay, and didn't get a single offer.

But I don't give a fuck.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 23, 2019 03:28 AM (Z4rgH)

502 499 The Poop Deck is a bar, on the Galveston Seawall at 29th St.

The Moron Travel Guide

A concept is born
Posted by: Miklos, who has actually written and edited travel books at September 23, 2019 02:40 AM (QzkSJ)

I'm on board with such an idea.
Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2019 02:49 AM (tVQUs)

****

Count me in - the Moron Travel Guide is an idea whose time has come! May I suggest we start with the good ole US of A. We could have a chapter for each state, with top 5 cities and top 5 restaurants and top five attractions/sites for morons.

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 23, 2019 03:33 AM (9oIrr)

503 Each chapter of the Moron Travel Guide should have a section on Where to Hide a Body.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2019 03:46 AM (FNXDu)

504 Each chapter of the Moron Travel Guide should have a section on Where to Hide a Body.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Now here's the money maker.

Posted by: Miklos, a practical man at September 23, 2019 03:52 AM (QzkSJ)

505 I have to be gone in 1 hour

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2019 04:10 AM (ZCEU2)

506 I've got 15 min.

Mornin', all
Love the travel guide idea!

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 23, 2019 04:15 AM (AQjWg)

507 "Each chapter of the Moron Travel Guide should have a section on Where to Hide a Body."
-Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2019 03:46 AM (FNXDu)

-Remember to dig holes beforehand. Perhaps know of construction sites or areas of residential fence-building. "Shallow Grave" is not in the Moron Dictionary. Hurried Holes make for Pregnant Jail Sentences.

*The More You Know!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2019 04:15 AM (Ckg4U)

508 ...and Good Morning!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2019 04:16 AM (Ckg4U)

509 Definitely not first...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at September 23, 2019 04:17 AM (l2UkI)

510 Slap!

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 23, 2019 04:17 AM (AQjWg)

511 Undecided what to make for breakfast, should have gotten a few slices of ham.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2019 04:26 AM (ZCEU2)

512 powerlineblog.com/-more-on-justin-trudeau
https://tinyurl.com/yyo5dvvs
Saw this last night, lol

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2019 04:28 AM (ZCEU2)

513 Good Morning Morons today is the Autumn Equinox for you star gazers. We have been in the calendar Autumn since Sep 1 and we were having some Autumn-like weather here with morning lows in the low 50s. But alas we are back to late Summer weather now with a high yesterday in the 90s.

Posted by: Vic at September 23, 2019 04:28 AM (mpXpK)

514 @My life is insanity!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2019 04:30 AM (Ckg4U)

515 Just has two sausage rolls (vs Sausage biscuits) and of course had to dose them with a liberal application of Texas Pete. I'll be hungry again in about 2 hours.

Posted by: Vic at September 23, 2019 04:30 AM (mpXpK)

516
The heliosphere has nothing to do with the Sun's gravitational field. It has to do with the Sun's solar wind and magnetic field.

Basically it is a bubble around the sun, of a radius of about 11 billion miles, that is "dominated" by the sun's solar wind and magnetic field.

The boundary is known as the "heliopause" and this is the boundary of intersteller space, where the Sun's plasma domination ends.

Voyager I crossed that boundary a while back and the data it was sending back showed the expected change in the plasma environment.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 23, 2019 04:33 AM (NMAzL)

517 I was thinking fried egg sandwich, but opted for that extra 30 min of sleep. Wasn't enough, shoulda went with the breakfast.

I'm out.

Have a great day, all!

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 23, 2019 04:35 AM (AQjWg)

518 Later, M.l.i.i.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2019 04:36 AM (Ckg4U)

519 Last of summer here, was high 80s yesterday and today

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2019 04:43 AM (ZCEU2)

520
Voyager 2 crossed the heliopause in November of 2018, I see. Voyager I crossed it back 2012.

So both Voyagers are now truly in interstellar space, having left the solar system, whose boundary is defined by said heliopause.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 23, 2019 04:50 AM (NMAzL)

521 Remember to dig holes beforehand. Perhaps know of construction sites or areas of residential fence-building. "Shallow Grave" is not in the Moron Dictionary. Hurried Holes make for Pregnant Jail Sentences.

Posted by: Slapweasel



Also, revolvers are your friend. When seconds count you do not want to be policing brass.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2019 04:57 AM (FNXDu)

Gun Thread: Quick Draw [Weasel]

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Last week we talked about range time, training and practice. When I first started shooting handguns, my weekly training and practice routine was to setup at an indoor range and spend 45 minutes to an hour trying to shoot the middle out of a paper silhouette about 20 feet away. How long did it take for that to become boring? About 15 minutes. But I stuck with it, Bro's and Bro-ettes, because I was training you see! And after practicing my standing motionless at 7 yards drill for months, I got to be pretty damn good! I'd set up the target the exact same way at 7 yards every time - I'd read somewhere that was the average distance of a lot of self-defense encounters - adjust the lighting just so, and proceed to make a big ol' raggedy hole in the middle of the target right where you're supposed to shoot the bad guys, or 'perps' as me and the boys called 'em. Eventually, I was able to make even smaller raggedy holes, thanks to all my practice and training!

But was I really accomplishing very much? Was I accomplishing anything at all? Let's find out below, shall we?

I had to be accomplishing something, because after all, my groups were getting smaller so I must be ready for some self-defens'n! I was at the point where the very next time someone who needed to be shot stood absolutely still directly in front of me at 20 feet or so, and I got all of the shooting crap out of my range bag and loaded up, I was pretty confident in my mad small hole making skillz! Yeah. Ridiculous. There wasn't anything really wrong with what I was doing, but I definitely wasn't accomplishing much more than practicing grip mechanics, trigger pull and sight alignment. All very important fundamentals, mind you, but also not a very likely scenario for a real world situation, now is it?

Here's an article on why little groups might not always be your friend, or at least why they may not represent the greatest training bang for your buck after you become generally proficient with your firearm.

I alluded to this last week, but most people start with an objective in mind when they take up the shooting sports. For some it is purely recreational with a vague desire to develop at least some level of competency with a firearm, while others have a more serious and specific self-defense application in mind. For some it may be a combination of all of the above, or even some other objective altogether. Whatever the case, it's helpful to keep your reasons in mind as you go to the range. Range time is practice time, even if you are simply practicing the skill of having fun.

So here's a question; if you include self-defense among your reasons for shooting, have you tried drawing from a holster and placing a couple of rounds in quick succession on target? If you haven't practiced this, and if your range allows it, you should try it sometime. All of a sudden you might find your raggedy single hole is much harder to replicate. In fact, you may find you have trouble hitting the target with any consistency at all. Uh oh! My skillz is gone!

Maybe not. If your objective is self defense, what you're really practicing are the skills necessary to stop the bad guy, right? The cops aren't going to score your shot placement if, God forbid, you have to shoot somebody. You're shooting to stop a threat, not to impress range babes with your one raggedy-hole bad-assery. I think most people agree that two or three shots inside about a six-inch center mass circle represents a pretty good start, and if it doesn't, then just keep shooting. This is training to a specific competency, and it needs to be practiced.

Again, you need to be certain your range allows this sort of practice, and if it does, consider adding some reality training to your routine. If it doesn't, you can usually get away with at least starting from a low-ready position. Don't go all nutty and spastic and try to be Marshal Dillon on Day 1, but rather slowly and methodically practice drawing and placing your sights on the target. This is something that is perfect to practice at home in front of a mirror wearing your Superman underwear and cape, with an unloaded! gun. Start ridiculously slowly drawing the weapon and acquiring the target, then making the weapon 'safe' and returning it to the holster. When you go to the range, now clothed and cape-less, practice the same drill and then slowly incorporate live fire. Do not start out practicing some sort of quick-draw business, your speed and proficiency will come with time. Some ranges even have programmable lanes which will present the target to the shooter for a couple of seconds based on a random timer, and these are an excellent training tool.

But what if your range doesn't allow this? What to do? You may be able to find that International Defensive Pistol Association, or IDPA, matches are being held in your area. These matches consist of 'stages' where you compete in scenarios designed to simulate real-world situations. In these matches you will practice movement, shooting, reloading and all sorts of things. If competition isn't your thing, don't worry about scores, although they are an excellent way to measure improvement. If you cannot find an IDPA match, there are a number of other organizations that put on the same sort of events, so just look around. As the first link below mentions, even tactical competition doesn't replicate the real world environment, but in my opinion, it is a great training option you might want to explore.

So what do you all think? Have you incorporated any real world elements in your training, or are you more of a stand-and-plink sort of a shooter? Have any of you participated in an IDPA style match, and if so, what was your experience?

Bonus Question: What was the name of Sheriff Quick Draw's sidekick?

Programming Note: I'll be attending a fabulous and luxurious social event this evening, but I'll try and check in periodically. Try not to burn the place down, and no parties, 'kay?

*******

Link-O-Rama
Video: Thoughts on Competition vs. Tactical Training
Pew Pew Tactical: Six Best Shooting Drills
NRA: More Shooting Drills
Bigfoot Gun Belts: More on Shooting Drills
Lucky Gunner: You Guessed It - Shooting Drills
Eagle Gun Range: Warmup Drills
Tactical-Life: Accuracy Drills


***Mail Bag***

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This week I'd like to give a shout-out to all of my pals in the F-Class shooting community, who are currently wrapping up 8 days of competition at the 2019 U.S. National Mid and Long-Range Championships in Raton, New Mexico. This year, 268 competitors met to compete against themselves, each other, and the wind in the New Mexico high desert. These guys and gals are some of the very best shooters in the world. I've been following the scores and range reports this week, and the conditions during some relays have been absolutely brutal, with shifting winds in excess of 35 mph. Imagine trying to hit a 5 inch circle at 1,000 yards in that, then imagine trying to do it 20 times in a row during a match. It's a testament to the skill and dedication of all involved, who have been practicing and preparing for the event all year. Congratulations to all of the competitors!

A library of event photos can be found HERE courtesy of Turbulent Turtle at the Accurate Shooter website.

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******

Please note the new and improved gmail account morongunthread at gmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?


Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM




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1 Gub thread!!!

Posted by: Pete Polarek at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (C1NyB)

2

Pew!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (eMoBB)

3 Dare I hope?

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (tDzWD)

4 Nope!

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (tDzWD)

5

Beaten on the draw!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (eMoBB)

6 I read that as "no panties."

Posted by: CMU VET at September 22, 2019 07:05 PM (C+wjz)

7 Does El Kabong still post here? Or was that always just a sock? Well it always made me laugh either way.

ALRIGHT? soright!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 07:05 PM (V2Yro)

8 I haven't been to Raton in 30 years.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 07:05 PM (uDh3k)

9 Did you all hear what that dope Sheila Jackson said? The an AR 15 was as heavy as 10 boxes of something and shot 50 caliber bullets?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 07:06 PM (85Gof)

10 Oh, great. Weasel is phoning it in today.

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:07 PM (tDzWD)

11 Ammo alert

While Wally World is selling off the handgun ammo, a discount popped up. Have confirmed this at two local stores.

50rd Federal 9mm brass is listed at $9.97 but is ringing up as $7.97.

The 200rd Federal 9mm brass is still ringing up at regular price.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 07:07 PM (QSzhg)

12 Here, let me piss multiple people off.

Posted by: A Sexy Monkey Serving Gin at September 22, 2019 07:07 PM (uDh3k)

13 Did you all hear what that dope Sheila Jackson said? The an AR 15 was as heavy as 10 boxes of something and shot 50 caliber bullets?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 07:06 PM (85Gof)


Well.

It is as heavy as ten boxes of something. For certain values of 'something'.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 07:07 PM (t+qrx)

14 Bonus Question: What was the name of Sheriff Quick Draw's sidekick?

Babalooie? Guessing on the spelling.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 07:08 PM (qc+VF)

15 Be right back

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:08 PM (ZCEU2)

16 Soothi! Care for a drink?

Posted by: A Sexy Monkey Serving Gin at September 22, 2019 07:09 PM (uDh3k)

17 No range time this week. I'm really becoming a sloth in that regard. I did manage to twist on my Galil barrel, and now I find it is short chambered by a couple of thousandths. I need to find someone to finish ream it just a turn or two.

And I got a little further on my ultralight build for Mrs928. I need to finish it by Christmas I think. She is right handed but massively left eye dominate so I will have to set it up ambie. Here's were it stands:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmHd9pzF

I still need a BCG and a gas plug. I should have had the lower parts kit already but Combat Armory messed up and sent me an AR upper instead. Odd. Someone out there is also going WTH over getting a lower parts kit instead of an upper. I'll try to sort that out this week. They might just let me keep the upper.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:10 PM (yQpMk)

18 My range doesn't allow much action unless you're enrolled in specific classes. After hours the RO's do have fun.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at September 22, 2019 07:10 PM (bIrK9)

19 http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=515391
I passed along the pictures of the old firearm of last week and here are some more opinions

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:10 PM (ZCEU2)

20 Babalooie? Guessing on the spelling.

Darned close. Wiki says "Baba Looey", with both characters being voiced by Daws Butler.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 07:12 PM (7s3Gx)

21 Those 10 boxes of Sheila Jackson Lee's must contain volumes 1 through 10 of the Mueller Report.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 07:13 PM (a4EWo)

22 Wow, grump.
You sure you're building it for her?

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:14 PM (tDzWD)

23 It is as heavy as ten boxes of something. For certain values of 'something'.
Posted by: hogmartin


An AR-15 is nineteen thousand times as heavy as my braining thing! Even the .50 cal missiles it can magazine are heavier!

Posted by: Sheila Jackoff Lee at September 22, 2019 07:16 PM (P1f+c)

24

I'll do the thinnin around here Baba Looey!

Posted by: Quick Draw McGraw at September 22, 2019 07:17 PM (aKsyK)

25 You sure you're building it for her?


Heh. I really am. I'm more of a 30 cal guy and she hates my heavy milsurps. She likes pistols but I want her to develop a liking for rifles so I'm shooting (no pun intended) for a sub 5lb rifle, loaded, with a straight 20rd aluminum mag. The upper and lower I started with are magnesium from Fostech. They are lighter than air.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:18 PM (yQpMk)

26
My local range over in Midlothian is a no-draw range, which makes things a bit sucky.

I decided to concentrate on the first shot, on the theory that the first shot is the most difficult to get right, and also the most important in a real life social situation.

Starting from low ready, I'd bring the pistol up smoothly and fire a single round as I got that center mass index on the silhouette target. Bring the pistol down slowly to reset at low ready, taking several seconds. Then repeat. After a bunch of practice, you can get that first shot off damned quickly, and with decent combat accuracy.

That also keeps the range folks happy since I'm not doing fast double-taps, and I'm keeping the muzzle downrange.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2019 07:20 PM (e0p0c)

27 "rather slowly and methodically practice drawing and placing your sights on the target"


Actually, start with point shooting, imo. Understanding that you, as a human, pretty accurately nail something you point at with your index finger (your trigger finger, your booger hook). Work on shooting by _pointing_, working backward to a retention position and point shoot, then work the issue of drawing to retention position *safely* (yes, slowly and methodically).

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2019 07:20 PM (T3K6c)

28 i was having a fit because i couldn't find the bolts to put the barrel on the HS...

until i discovered they are retained by the receiver when you take the barrel off.

now i have to contact Styer for some torque info on the gub, because i accidentally loosened a receiver bolt... DOH!

i have the scope and mount on the gun now, so we can check eye relief, then i'll do the actual mount and torque later this week.

then i can FINALLY get it out to the range and make noise while trying to zero it and see if the barrel needs a "break in"...

the -10 from the factory says "no". we shall see.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 07:21 PM (VXS7N)

29 Damn little shooting on duty day at the range last week. No steel shooting from the holster, ahead of the line, as I like to do on one of the small ranges. Too busy. Who effed up and opened the gate?


A bit of rested and off-hand shooting with a Mosin, milsurp ammo. Fairly happy with the result, been a while since I shot one of those. 3/4 of the hits inside the black circle [8" wide? not sure, maybe 1O"] is fine. Off-hand about half as good. Need to spend serious time practicing off-hand, kneeling, prone. Iron sights.


A few beautiful 19O3s there to torment me. And another guy [like last month] with a home-built 9mikemike AR-platform light/short rifle, very nice. Fancy trigger [allowed very rapid fire], piston buffer took what was already de minimis recoil and reduced it further.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 07:21 PM (QDnY+)

30 I practice basics at the indoor range. I have an outdoor range where I practice drawing and movement. I can hit 2 inch groups at 9 yards either hand (I practice with both), one- or two-handed indoors.

I am somewhat - and sometimes considerably - less accurate outdoors pushing on time or movement.

My primary tactic for a gunfight will be awareness. I'm not going to win a ol' style western gunfight.

Shooting some of the steel competitions around here will be my next challenge.

PS. Can't imagine shooting precision at 1000 yards with that kind of wind. My hat's off to those folks just for having the stones to try.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at September 22, 2019 07:22 PM (RCsg2)

31 Grump, I bought an M-Forgery for Mrs. Red. She was impressed that I had done so, but said she'd rather appropriate my Ruger .22-.45. Which she did.
So I have an "extra" in 5.56. I tac'ed it up with light and laser and stuff.

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:22 PM (tDzWD)

32 I haven't been to Raton in 30 years.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 07:05 PM (uDh3k)


Same here. Though I'm not sure I ever saw much of it beyond the gas station and McDonald's at the highway junction (I25 and US87) on the east side. I was always driving through from Colorado to Texas.

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2019 07:22 PM (T3K6c)

33 Our outdoor range does allow it but I haven't taken advantage of it. Now that the weather is getting nicer we'll be getting more practice in.

Btw. Thanks again Weasel. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:23 PM (Zv1X1)

34 I still need a BCG and a gas plug.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:10 PM (yQpMk)


That just sounds kinky.

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2019 07:24 PM (T3K6c)

35 I have taken InSight's General Defensive Handgun course which does perzactkly what is described in the post -- goes in stages from draw to aim to fire to reholster. At least two instructors on the gun line to prevent painful brain seizures and make sure everyone goes home with the same number of toes they showed up with. I like it because it takes place over two days and allows good habits to get reinforced. There is a real difference to draw and fire. Also trains that sometimes you draw and do NOT fire. They also train shoot and move, so you don't train yourself to sit there and invite return fire to one place.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 22, 2019 07:25 PM (MjdP3)

36 That just sounds kinky.


For what they cost I should get a happy ending. $90 for the gas block I want and a cheap $160 for the BCG.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

37 First bacon and then gubs. Is this a great country or what?

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 07:27 PM (UUkQp)

38 Just gotta share this. I LOVE this pic! Thank God for free-thinking people.
(I also love his shoes.)

https://tinyurl.com/y2mv2wqz

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 07:27 PM (L2ZTs)

39 And before I read all this, a double Captain Morgan in a chilled glass!

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 07:28 PM (UUkQp)

40
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 07:29 PM (prqrF)

41 I have pistols strictly for self defense and so I am content with MOM from 0 to 20 ft without using the sights or adopting a shooting stance. I practice a shot from the hip clearing the holster, slide up tight for another shot our of my armpit and then extend the arm for the third shot.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:29 PM (yQpMk)

42 The best investment I picked up for shooting practice is a shot timer. At 7 yards I try to get the first round off within 1.5 seconds from the holster and deliver accurate shots with about 0.3 - 0.35 second splits.
The upper thoracic has a lot of things that don't react well to gunfire so my training goal is to deliver accurate rounds there as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 22, 2019 07:30 PM (BTYuT)

43 I took that "Why little groups might not be your friend" article to heart.
Luckily, I can shoot in my backyard so I don't have to worry about R.O.s freaking out.
Drawing and shooting from lots of positions, motion, distance. Two center mass, one head. Reloading, malfunction, etc.
Very eye-opening, and fun. Need lots more practice.

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:31 PM (tDzWD)

44 Puppy training is going well. 2nd obedience class is tomorrow. Time to shatter some dreams and break some hearts.

Posted by: Muad'dib - drinking gin and having fun at September 22, 2019 07:31 PM (uDh3k)

45 Restall had a theory on the effect of guns in the Spanish Conquest. His theory was: not much. At first.

Cortes had guns but he had guns made in 1515 Cuba. They were for sh!t in long range. For long range you'd fire a volley, which like longbow arrows would hit some rando in the onrushing horde; in the meantime, you were dodging about ten actual arrows from said horde. Advantage: arrows. Oh, and gunpowder gets soggy in humid climates like, say, the Mexican Gulf Coast.

Cannon was a thing too, i guess... except that you had to schlep those things up 8000 feet of Mexican antiplano to use them.

Restall thought that Cortes' guns were best as defensive weapons, if the Spaniards were already cut off from (Tlaxcaltec) reinforcements and were being swarmed by armed Mexica.

What really made the difference was horse, at Otumba (thanks Tom Servo). That and the aforementioned Tlaxcaltecs.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 07:32 PM (ykYG2)

46 I'm also a believer in DA for EDC. My SAs are range toys and maybe home defense.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:32 PM (yQpMk)

47 Used to do great shoot/move drills, against both steel and paper silhouette targets, when my buddy was ROing with me [he moved to TX]. He was a SEAL for over a quarter century. He'd set up stages where we'd have to move a certain way [don't hug "walls" too closely, they tend to catch/channel enemy fire], always take cover for reloading.


Don't carry, so the draw is not a big focus, but do focus on accuracy in these improvised tactical stages. Big fun.



Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 07:32 PM (QDnY+)

48 Really good drill called the "1R1" - start with a full mag and and empty mag. Insert full mag, cycle your slide (puts a round in the chamber). Do a mag change putting the empty mag in the gun and the full mag on your belt - remember the gun is hot. Aim at the target and start your timer. On the beep, fire. Your slide locks back, mag change and fire again. Make your weapon safe and holster. Your time is from the beep-until-second-shot. Remember the gun has a round in the chamber. Placing an empty mag into the gun and the full mag back on your belt. Repeat. A g17 can do 8 reps on 1 full mag.

For more fun, mix in a couple of dummy rounds. when you get a malfunction, tap, rack and roll, then take the second shot. Your time is still beep-to-second-shot.

Offer to load mags for your friends. If you want some extra fun, put two dummy rounds next to each other.

For even more fun, load up several mags - say 5, some full, some not full, mix in some dummy rounds, and do some sprints and shoot from cover.

I have been shooting these drills using 3x5 cards as the target at 7 and 10 yards. Only card hits count, keep shooting until you hit the card twice.

Posted by: Richard at September 22, 2019 07:32 PM (huaUe)

49 Weasel!
*smooch*

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 07:32 PM (NWiLs)

50 I practice a shot from the hip clearing the holster, slide up tight for another shot our of my armpit and then extend the arm for the third shot.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:29 PM (yQpMk)

That sounds like an effective way of covering your bases.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:33 PM (Zv1X1)

51
My primary tactic for a gunfight will be awareness.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at September 22, 2019 07:22 PM (RCsg2)





Hell, my primary tactic for a gunfight is "Run away! Run away!"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2019 07:34 PM (e0p0c)

52 Starting from low ready, I'd bring the pistol up smoothly and fire a single round as I got that center mass index on the silhouette target. Bring the pistol down slowly to reset at low ready, taking several seconds. Then repeat. After a bunch of practice, you can get that first shot off damned quickly, and with decent combat accuracy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2019 07:20 PM (e0p0c)


This is exactly what I had typed up to post, but then I refreshed and saw that you'd posted it already. But I'll post it anyhow.

None of the ranges near me allow draw and fire drills, unless you're there for a class that includes it. And two of the three require 2-3 seconds between shots to keep out people who are just there to make a lot of noise, I guess.

Since I can't really practice draw or follow-up shots, I've been working on presentation and sight acquisition. Starting from compressed ready (pistol level and downrange, between waist and chest height, elbows bent with the pistol pulled in), pick a point on the target and raise the pistol to firing height and press out towards the target while visually acquiring the front sight. Fire when it's lined up, and follow through to acquire the same picture after recoil. I also download the magazines with a different number of rounds, so I have to reload during the string, and I don't know when it'll be.

https://youtu.be/Ctn7k5JBRTg

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 07:34 PM (t+qrx)

53 Unfortunately I don't have any ranges anywhere near me that allow draw and fire or other such types of practice.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

54
my "guy" called me on Friday as I was headed out to the MiMoMe, said he had received a small block of aluminium for me (I go pick it up tomorrow night)

recv'd the other bits of aluminium, steel, & plastic from Del-ton last Tuesday

I just have to load it all in the canoe & take it to the other side of the river, then I'm having a little build party next weekend

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 07:35 PM (prqrF)

55 That sounds like an effective way of covering your bases.

I train for very close contact. I assume that I will have little warning and little room so I don't want to get in the habit of extending my arm and having the weapon within grabbing reach of the assailant. Honestly, if they are 50 feet away (and I see people practicing this) I'm going to run for it and seek cover, defying them to hit a fear-speeded moving target.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:38 PM (yQpMk)

56 Maybe we shouldn't tell Sheila Jackson Lee that you can get 50 caliber uppers for the AR-15. Mine's a Beowulf.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at September 22, 2019 07:40 PM (1L9V9)

57 56 Maybe we shouldn't tell Sheila Jackson Lee that you can get 50 caliber uppers for the AR-15. Mine's a Beowulf.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at September 22, 2019 07:40 PM (1L9V9)

I'd give my right arm for one of those!

Posted by: Grendel at September 22, 2019 07:41 PM (NWiLs)

58 So Heidi carries in a purse, and that's something she needs to practice drawing from a purse. I always wondered how inaccurate it would be if she had to under pressure, shoot through the purse, and if its even possible.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:41 PM (Zv1X1)

59 > And two of the three require 2-3 seconds between shots to keep out people who are just there to make a lot of noise, I guess.

I've had range guys look when I was shooting fast but when they see I'm delivering accurate hits they leave me alone. At least at ranges by me they're probably just trying to stop the clowns from shooting the tracks etc. The closer range to my house has bullet marks in the ceiling directly above some of the lanes. :O

Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 22, 2019 07:42 PM (BTYuT)

60 I'd give my right arm for one of those!
Posted by: Grendel at September 22, 2019 07:41 PM (NWiLs)


Too soon.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 07:42 PM (t+qrx)

61 Hell, my primary tactic for a gunfight is "Run away! Run away!"

Honestly, that's the best Plan A (when Plan 0: "be somewhere else" has failed). I once took some classes with an instructor who said that there are exactly three valid responses to a threat and they should be used in this order:

1) run away
2) get help
3) fight like a tiger

Notice that "proportional response" or "shoot 'em in the knee" are not choices.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (qc+VF)

62 I always wondered how inaccurate it would be if she had to under pressure, shoot through the purse, and if its even possible.

I think I'd recommend it for the first shot. I would suspect that nothing in that purse is going to stop a bullet or deflect it too much at likely pistol distance. It might get warm in there though depending on what she was shooting.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (yQpMk)

63 58 So Heidi carries in a purse, and that's something she needs to practice drawing from a purse. I always wondered how inaccurate it would be if she had to under pressure, shoot through the purse, and if its even possible.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:41 PM (Zv1X1)

I'm no expert but it seems that shooting through the purse is only a safe bet at contact distance. Also, if she has a bunch of shit in her purse, things could get in the trigger guard, or in the way of the hammer (if there is one), or impinge the slide as it cycles the next round. If it's a specialty purse designed specifically for concealed carry of a handgun then these may be less of a concern.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (NWiLs)

64 Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:38 PM (yQpMk)

Yep Grump. that's what I pictured when I saw your comment and most likely your practice drill is what you'll need. Much more likely you'll be under severe pressure and short distance constraints.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (Zv1X1)

65 I am about to buy a good concealed weapon. I have big hands and would like to stay bigger than 9mm and would prefer it not to be too bulky. Any suggestions I could try at the range?

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:45 PM (4HMlb)

66 most likely your practice drill is what you'll need


I like the idea that the first shot is likely to be to their balls.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:47 PM (yQpMk)

67 65 I am about to buy a good concealed weapon. I have big hands and would like to stay bigger than 9mm and would prefer it not to be too bulky. Any suggestions I could try at the range?
Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:45 PM (4HMlb)

Try ALL TEH GUNZ!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 07:47 PM (NWiLs)

68 90 percent of carry time (everyday) it's on the right hip. Feels the most natural whether a little Ruger .357 LCR or a steel 19ll. Holsters are either all leather or some sort of kydex or other synthetic, always use a real belt which holds up under firearm and at least 2 extra mags. And no I don't practice pistol at 50 feet. That's shotgun territory as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 07:48 PM (UUkQp)

69 I like the idea that the first shot is likely to be to their balls.

So that's what ball ammo is for? I learn something new here every week.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 07:49 PM (qc+VF)

70 Got my range time in yesterday, as my observance of International Peace Day, mostly as lolgf commie UN, but also in the spirit of that Latin tag about if you want peace prepare for war.

Weasel, you make excellent points up top, really needs saying and repeating for anyone who aspires to effective defense with a gun.
I have to work at keeping it in mind myself !

When I do my range report here it sometimes catches the old bullseye shooter in my head weird, you're telling people you stayed in the 8 ring of a big silhouette at 21 feet and feeling good about it ?
Yes, one handed, with a short barreled pistol, after running ... yeah, I think that's pretty okay.
If this had been real self defense every one of those shots would have, at minimum, seriously inconvenienced an aggressor.

Anyway, that said, this week was the usual quick run-through, 10 from the j-frame and the mini .22, a dozen from the p290, and since we're going up North next month, 6 rounds of .44 mag from the 629 which will accompany me in addition to the usual.

all in the 8 ring.

fired the .44 at 30-35 feet, 2 handed.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 07:49 PM (c1yAg)

71 If it's a specialty purse designed specifically for concealed carry of a handgun then these may be less of a concern.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (NWiLs)

One is a carry purse but I'm not sure I'm crazy about the system It does have a separate pocket that holds the weapon, a Ruger 38 revolver (loaded plus P's defense rounds )) she is proficient with. easy zipper and there was an instance she had her hand in her purse holding the grip, but thank God false alarm.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:50 PM (Zv1X1)

72 45,
Don't discount the noise and flash of firearms to tribal peoples...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 07:50 PM (6qErC)

73 Maybe we shouldn't tell Sheila Jackson Lee that you can get 50 caliber uppers for the AR-15. Mine's a Beowulf.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at September 22, 2019 07:40 PM

=====

I'd give my right arm for one of those!
Posted by: Grendel at September 22, 2019 07:41 PM


I would have bet money you'd be more of a 6.5 kind of guy.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 07:50 PM (DMUuz)

74 I have big hands and would like to stay bigger than 9mm and would prefer it not to be too bulky.

Bigger than 9mm is going to rule out pocket pistols so how about a single stack Springfield XDS in 45acp.

http://bit.ly/2LInVTJ

The only down side is your pinkie will be hanging off most likely.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:50 PM (yQpMk)

75 Catman, Insomniac is exactly right. Go to a range with 25 or so pistols on the wall and try hand feel first. Then choose what you'd like to shoot, is the best way for you to Goldilocks a gub. It is known.

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 07:53 PM (UUkQp)

76 There has to be a purse with a pocket designed to hold a pistol that keeps it separate from all the other things that are carried in a purse like handkerchiefs, make up, hair products, spare wrenches, lighters, phone and charger, flares, water purification tablets, compass, mess kit, breakfast bars, fruit, canned meat, and books.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:53 PM (ZCEU2)

77 I am about to buy a good concealed weapon. I have big hands and would like to stay bigger than 9mm and would prefer it not to be too bulky. Any suggestions I could try at the range?
Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:45 PM


A Commander-framed 1911 is the breakfast of Champions.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 07:53 PM (DMUuz)

78 I think I'd recommend it for the first shot. I would suspect that nothing in that purse is going to stop a bullet or deflect it too much at likely pistol distance. It might get warm in there though depending on what she was shooting.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (yQpMk)

Well if she has to then yep, through the purse. Like you said if its a long ways away then run. Both her purses have a separate pocket and so nothing goes in there but the revolver. Through the purse is like your shot from the hip imho. Hell, may the only shot and so closer is better in that case as Insom said. Up close, just keep pulling the trigger. Seconds and others should go through the same hole.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:54 PM (Zv1X1)

79 Baba Looey

Posted by: Mamawolf at September 22, 2019 07:55 PM (tFWWx)

80 Catman, glocks come in all sizes and flavors:
Full size G 17 size does 9, .40, .357 Sig, .45.
Compact G 19 size does the same.
Sub compact may be too small.

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 07:56 PM (tDzWD)

81 Purse carry seems like a good idea at first thought but what about a purse snatcher running off with your weapon? I have seen some fanny pack style holsters that would be harder to wrestle off.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:58 PM (yQpMk)

82 At close range, firing through a purse will not affect accuracy much. Well not as much as literally firing blind and from the hip. But when seconds matter...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 07:58 PM (QSzhg)

83 Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:53 PM (ZCEU2)

there are plenty of really nice carry purses. Some have some really nifty systems that allow quick access and some you can keep in the purses and with a quick pull the barrel is free and clear in front of the purse. Heidi carries a 'hammer less' revolver so less to snag.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 07:59 PM (Zv1X1)

84 A Commander-framed 1911 is the breakfast of Champions.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 07:53 PM (DMUuz)


Open carry in a leather chest holster.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 07:59 PM (t+qrx)

85 At close range, firing through a purse will not affect accuracy much.


The imagine of the ER doctors removing coin and makeup compact shrapnel from the perp is also amusing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:59 PM (yQpMk)

86 the image


FMK

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:00 PM (yQpMk)

87 OK, Anna, since this is Morons, gunz, bewbz, etc., what do you think of the under-bewb holsters?

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 08:00 PM (tDzWD)

88 There has to be a purse with a pocket designed to hold a pistol...

There are many. Usually they will have a compartment accessed by a quick-pull zipper that can be yanked open with the purse carried over the weak-side shoulder. If anyone coming to TxMoMe is interested, I can get Mrs. the B to bring some examples from her (*ahem*) "collection." The source usually recommended for women new to CCW is www.corneredcat.com.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 08:00 PM (qc+VF)

89 ER nurse to doctor, "you found a tampon in his spleen?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:01 PM (QSzhg)

90 My friend at the range recommended I try the various glocks just to get a base feel..

Posted by: Catman at September 22, 2019 08:01 PM (4HMlb)

91 Funny, I just went through Raton in August on the way back from RVing in Colorado.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 22, 2019 08:01 PM (UUBmN)

92 The xds sounds good.. Will have to try..

Posted by: Catman at September 22, 2019 08:02 PM (4HMlb)

93 My friend at the range recommended I try the various glocks just to get a base feel..


You might be assimilated. People who like Glocks really really like Glocks.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:02 PM (yQpMk)

94 Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 08:00 PM (qc+VF)

Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 08:03 PM (Zv1X1)

95 Tried Glocks. Didn't like 'em. Highly subjective though, so YMMV.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 22, 2019 08:03 PM (Mm4NK)

96 Anyone fired the Bond Bullpup9? Can't find one locally to shoot.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 08:03 PM (B7KlG)

97 You might be assimilated. People who like Glocks really really like Glocks.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:02 PM (yQpMk)


I don't even like Glocks, and then I shot one, and now I kind of like them. They put worms in your brain.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:04 PM (t+qrx)

98 I am in Walmart too much to open carry...

Posted by: Catman at September 22, 2019 08:04 PM (4HMlb)

99 Tried Glocks. Didn't like 'em. Highly subjective though, so YMMV.


I'm with you, but I know several people who tried a Glock, and now won't own anything else. For those that it fits, it's a damn fine pistol.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:04 PM (yQpMk)

100 89 ER nurse to doctor, "you found a tampon in his spleen?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:01 PM (QSzhg)

Heidi: LMAO!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (Zv1X1)

101 I don't want to get in the habit of extending my arm
and having the weapon within grabbing reach of the assailant.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:38 PM (yQpMk)


Yep. That's why they call it "retention position".
Draw, pivot the pistol to point toward the target (booger hook still pointing, not pulling), then pull it up and push out (various techniques for 2d hand, whether it's up then out or up AND out, etc.), bringing it to normal shooting position, then aligning a proper sight picture. And as long as possible, the weapon stays close in, **always pointed toward the target**, so you can put the booger hook in and go bang if you need to (like he closed on you).

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (T3K6c)

102 OK, Anna, since this is Morons, gunz, bewbz, etc., what do you think of the under-bewb holsters?

Mrs. the B tried of those too. I think the experiment lasted less than a week. One of those things that seems better in concept than in real life.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (qc+VF)

103 So, if you're in an emergency scenario, and your companion is unwilling to escape to safety with you, what do you do?

Leave them to their fate and risk being separated? Or face the threat with them?

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (i/wJA)

104 Last year, late fall Shooting Buddy and I did a quick practice shooting-through-jacket-pocket with a couple of thrift-store coats.

One shot, okay, within the silhouette at 3 yards mostly, second shot sometimes ok, sometimes got involved with the lining for a rather hard-to-clear failure. Revolvers definitely better than autos.

One time I got all 5 rounds off from the j-frame, pocket was smoldering but no actual flame.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (c1yAg)

105 I am leary of the blockyness of the nose but I will have to try from a holster.. Fired plenty but not from a draw..

Posted by: Catman at September 22, 2019 08:06 PM (4HMlb)

106 Catman,

A lot of what you pick depends on how much time and effort you wish to spend on shooting. An N-Frame revolver or something like a Ruger GP 100 fits most mitts. Revolvers have a simpler manual of arms for those that shoot sporadically but have limited capacity and both the these would be difficult to conceal. These are also a bit more expensive that a plastic fantastic.

There are lot of semi-autos and quite a few in .40 that are available cheap right now as former police issued. Glocks, Smith and Wesson M&P's, and used Sigs can be found in that category and these will fit larger hands. Look for one with changeable backstraps to accommodate larger hands which will be the Smith M&P or the newer Sig poly line. The Ruger American also has a large sized grip but unsure about those in other than 9mm as I haven't seen one personally. Also the Beretta 92 is one that fits large hands well as is aka U.S. Military M9 Handgun.

Talon Gun Grips can also be added to some of those that don't have those backstraps.

The semi-autos are easier to shoot and have higher capacity. They vary on concealability as those that are more concealable are more difficult to shoot more or less because they are smaller and have more recoil. They do have a more difficult manual of arms and require a bit more practice to function, especially those with safeties. Good luck.

Gotta go now, work awaits.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2019 08:06 PM (hqUZK)

107 "Bonus Question: What was the name of Sheriff Quick Draw's sidekick?"

Booboobababalouie

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2019 08:06 PM (Tnijr)

108 impinge the slide as it cycles the next round.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 07:44 PM (NWiLs)


If you're going to carry like that, I would suggest a hammerless revolver so there's no slide cycling at all.

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2019 08:07 PM (T3K6c)

109 Doesn't that depend on what companion means?

Posted by: Catman at September 22, 2019 08:07 PM (4HMlb)

110 So, if you're in an emergency scenario, and your companion is unwilling to escape to safety with you, what do you do?

Leave them to their fate and risk being separated? Or face the threat with them?



Do you love them? If so, well, everyones got to die sometime. Otherwise, adios amigo.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:07 PM (yQpMk)

111 Leave them to their fate and risk being separated? Or face the threat with them?
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (i/wJA)


I mean, if you stuck with them, you might have a chance to protect them.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:07 PM (i/wJA)

112 Leave them to their fate and risk being separated? Or face the threat with them?

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (i/wJA)

More info. Please. Do you like them or love them?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (Zv1X1)

113 Under-boob holster?

Way too much to get rubbed the wrong way for that to be useful.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (QSzhg)

114 I am a big advocate of IDPA.

Unfortunately, I've been unable to shoot IDPA over the last few months due to life getting in the way.

USPSA a lot of fun, too. However, it's more "run and gun" than IDPA.

Steel Challenge is fun, though there's only one stage with movement.

Steel Challenge does help one with target transition/acquisition.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (WEBkv)

115 Weasel!
*smooch*
Posted by: Insomniac

Yet another "don't ask, don't tell" moment here at the HQ.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (arJlL)

116 Gunga la Gunga

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (arJlL)

117 ...Only card hits count, keep shooting until you hit the card twice.

Posted by: Richard at September 22, 2019 07:32 PM (huaUe)




Richard wins the Best Drills award for this one.


And Grump takes the Silver for the Wisdomest Comment, thus far:

...I'm going to run for it and seek cover, defying them to hit a fear-speeded moving target.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 07:38 PM (yQpMk)



As much as I'm confident in my accuracy, I'm less confident in the "legal" system, such as it is.

I mean, me not being a member of the Swampinatti, nor being a Chosen Wonista, or otherwise anointed with the Teflon of the Left.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX



Posted by: Jim at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (QzJWU)

118 Don't forget dry fire training for defensive skills too.

Drawing from your concealed holster, while laying on the ground after a thug knock down, and using both left and right hands to draw and fire, getting to your knees while firing then a full standing position all the while dry firing your weapon. The scenarios you can come up with are endless.....out of bed, out the tub, out of your car. You get the idea.

On a happy note, I used my new target hit indicator by MagnetoSpeed out to 600 yards this week and it worked great.

Here is the link....

https://tinyurl.com/y46bnxh8

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (Z+IKu)

119 103 So, if you're in an emergency scenario, and your companion is unwilling to escape to safety with you, what do you do?

Leave them to their fate and risk being separated? Or face the threat with them?
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (i/wJA)

Depends who it is. Ex-wife? Buh-bye!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:09 PM (NWiLs)

120 Cortes had guns but he had guns made in 1515 Cuba. They were for sh!t in long range. For long range you'd fire a volley, which like longbow arrows would hit some rando in the onrushing horde; in the meantime, you were dodging about ten actual arrows from said horde. Advantage: arrows. Oh, and gunpowder gets soggy in humid climates like, say, the Mexican Gulf Coast.

The guns would punch through any armor the Aztecs could come up with, I think. European armor was pretty good at stopping European arrows, and Aztec arrows weren't in the same league.

The idea that bows and arrows were superior to early guns has been kicked around by historians for a long, long time, but with few exceptions the cultures that had access to both preferred guns. The exceptions were horse cultures that favored light cavalry, for whom rate of fire outweighed range and penetration concerns.

People always look at rate of fire, and tend 1) underestimate the effectiveness of armor against muscle-powdered weapons and 2) underestimate the range and accuracy of early firearms.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 22, 2019 08:10 PM (iTtBf)

121 This would be my husband, who becomes stubborn and completely impervious to reason in high-stress situations. And he's too big for me to just drag to safety.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:10 PM (i/wJA)

122 canned meat

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:53 PM (ZCEU2)


If you have canned meat in there, what do you need a gun for?!
"It was a drive-by spamming!"

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2019 08:10 PM (T3K6c)

123 Thanks Whig.. Beretta 92 sounds good.. I will see what Appliachian Gun Range has in stock for me to try.. I know an instructor there..

Posted by: Catman at September 22, 2019 08:10 PM (4HMlb)

124 Hello, gub threaders!

No trips to the range this week, just maintenance.

After the rear sights of the Mauser C96 literally flew off and smacked me in the head last week, I ordered a replacement leaf spring.

It arrived with commendable dispatch from Numrich's yesterday. Today I installed it.

Based on the difficulty I had in cinching that thing down, I'm pretty confident it will stay in place.

I spent much of today doing a deep clean of the C96, followed by a routine cleaning of the Webley. I'll say this for revolvers - easy to maintain. I get why the Brits were so unwilling to go for autoloaders.

One thing I've noticed in the C96 is that it's not cycling 100 percent in function tests. I'm thinking I need to replace the sear. I have a spare, but didn't feel like getting into the lock mechanism to swap it out. Maybe next week.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:11 PM (cfSRQ)

125 I prefer the XDE over the XDS for carry. I have both and the XDE checks off all the boxes for me.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 22, 2019 08:11 PM (TLxpZ)

126 I am the sheepdog of the family.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:11 PM (i/wJA)

127 sock_rat_eez, that's great - the pocket shooting with thrift store coats


Gonna look around, see if I have any suitable garments that are headed for coat-heaven anyway, and try that same thing. Fun.




Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 08:11 PM (QDnY+)

128 103 Nice of them to hold the line while you go get reinforcements

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:12 PM (ZCEU2)

129 Leave them to their fate and risk being separated? Or face the threat with them?

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:05 PM (i/wJA)

More serious answer. I want to get back to my loved ones, so if they're being unreasonably stupid then well....lotsa luck.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 08:13 PM (Zv1X1)

130 Good luck, Catman, and stay in touch, let us know what happens !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 08:13 PM (c1yAg)

131 Afternoon all, nuddink of interest shooting wise. Co worker bought a Hammerli .22 in AR15 style, shoots well. Inch groups at 50 mtrs. He also brought a small boat as he handed in his semis in. He recons he made about $25K over what they cost him. I am $3K up on crap that cost me nothing and about to make another $8 to $9K on more worthless crap that cost me virtually nothing. All done through other mates on my behalf. Not a evil black gun amongst the lot.I have been given a few historical rifles and mags, etc as I may be able to keep them. ftp

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at September 22, 2019 08:14 PM (bgJ0E)

132 121 This would be my husband, who becomes stubborn and completely impervious to reason in high-stress situations. And he's too big for me to just drag to safety.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:10 PM (i/wJA)

Well, how opposed are you to shooting him in a situation like that?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2019 08:14 PM (Zv1X1)

133 Grabagun has a package deal for a .45 XDE, 4 mags, small holster and a carry case for $433.
https://bit.ly/2muKUHO

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 22, 2019 08:14 PM (TLxpZ)

134 Are there any new Beretta 92s being made since the PX-4 came out?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:15 PM (QSzhg)

135 121 This would be my husband, who becomes stubborn and completely impervious to reason in high-stress situations. And he's too big for me to just drag to safety.
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:10 PM (i/wJA)

That's a tough call. Have you discussed with him what the two of you should do in the event (God forbid) you find yourselves in the middle of an active shooter situation?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:15 PM (NWiLs)

136 sock_rat_eez, that's great - the pocket shooting with thrift store coats
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 08:11 PM (QDnY+)


Agree. It sounds like something Paul Harrell would do. Actually, I'd be surprised if he hasn't.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:15 PM (t+qrx)

137 So that's what ball ammo is for? I learn something new here every week.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 07:49 PM (qc+VF)
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Current SWAT training is: two to the groin, followed by a shot to the head, because the head comes down and forward after a shot to the groin.

Heard this directly from a SWAT trainer. The idea behind the training is defeating body armor.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 08:16 PM (WEBkv)

138 Since I have had no where else to do practical shooting, I practice drawing at home and double/triple / full mag tap shooting at the range.

I also vary the distances out to 15 yards.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 08:16 PM (2DOZq)

139 I would think even the most stubborn when lead is flying 99 out of 100 people will try to get out of the area.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:17 PM (ZCEU2)

140 Insom, I have found that gaming out scenarios with him does not work.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:18 PM (i/wJA)

141
Agree. It sounds like something Paul Harrell would do. Actually, I'd be surprised if he hasn't.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:15 PM (t+qrx)

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My old pocket holster was coming apart and I stupidly threw it away. I should have fired a few shots through it in a throwaway pair of pants, per Paul.

I'm not sure I'm on board with blasting away with my junk that close to the muzzle though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:18 PM (cfSRQ)

142 139 I would think even the most stubborn when lead is flying 99 out of 100 people will try to get out of the area.
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:17 PM (ZCEU2)


My goal is to skedaddle before the lead flies.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:19 PM (i/wJA)

143 Hell, my primary tactic for a gunfight is "Run away! Run away!"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2019 07:34 PM (e0p0c)

Pretty much what I was getting at.

If I stand and fight, it's because I don't have a decent second option. Current viable second options include "Don't visit *-holes like Portland or Seattle."

Posted by: Long Running Fool at September 22, 2019 08:20 PM (RCsg2)

144 137 So that's what ball ammo is for? I learn something new here every week.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 07:49 PM (qc+VF)
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Current SWAT training is: two to the groin, followed by a shot to the head, because the head comes down and forward after a shot to the groin.

Heard this directly from a SWAT trainer. The idea behind the training is defeating body armor.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 08:16 PM (WEBkv)

Followed by a shot to the dog.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:20 PM (NWiLs)

145 That was my first thought too, rhomboid, but it turned out that even the crappiest coat I owned had a place in the world, like on the ground / under hood car work in the winter.
Thrift store was the easy answer.

Fun, yes !
Let us know how it goes !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 08:20 PM (c1yAg)

146 If I stand and fight, it's because I don't have a decent second option. Current viable second options include "Don't visit *-holes like Portland or Seattle."
Posted by: Long Running Fool at September 22, 2019 08:20 PM (RCsg2)
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Yep.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 08:20 PM (WEBkv)

147 Imagine the Aztecs. According to earlier writers, they had been plagued by a series of bad omens.

Here comes Hernando. Paler than anyone else. In strange attire riding fearsome beasts, horses. And then when the Aztecs attack, these strangers use thunder against you.

Game over man.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:20 PM (QSzhg)

148 If I win the Lottery, this is going in my arms closet...

https://youtu.be/6k8-CojccCk

...'cause I'll need lots of money to keep it properly fed.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at September 22, 2019 08:21 PM (W+kMI)

149 140 Insom, I have found that gaming out scenarios with him does not work.
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:18 PM (i/wJA)

Oy. If you have kids, then get them to safety. Hopefully he'll go with you. If it's just you two, you have to decide whether preserving your own life takes priority over attempting to protect him in place and possibly lose yours.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:23 PM (NWiLs)

150 My old pocket holster was coming apart and I stupidly threw it away. I should have fired a few shots through it in a throwaway pair of pants, per Paul.

I'm not sure I'm on board with blasting away with my junk that close to the muzzle though.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:18 PM (cfSRQ)


Well, if you had to shoot through the pocket holster and the pants, ideally you would take your pants off before shooting someone.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:24 PM (t+qrx)

151 Thanks, Insom. I was just wondering if there was a protocol that preserves the most good. I'm sure the military or law enforcement runs into these situations.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:24 PM (i/wJA)

152 Win the lottery?

Get an MG-3 in 7.62NATO. 50 spare barrels. And 10,000 rounds.

Then have fun.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:25 PM (QSzhg)

153 150 My old pocket holster was coming apart and I stupidly threw it away. I should have fired a few shots through it in a throwaway pair of pants, per Paul.

I'm not sure I'm on board with blasting away with my junk that close to the muzzle though.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:18 PM (cfSRQ)

Well, if you had to shoot through the pocket holster and the pants, ideally you would take your pants off before shooting someone.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:24 PM (t+qrx)

Never bring pants to a gunfight.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:25 PM (NWiLs)

154 Just got in off the range with N**** the Valiant. We're in Montana to see him off to Iraq. Took his new (well, used, but unfired) Browning Superposed 12 out on some clay pigeons. Fun, but mostly because of the company. Fun gun, smooth and gentle.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 22, 2019 08:25 PM (t2Lmw)

155 Never bring pants to a gunfight.

How about chaps ol chap?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:26 PM (QSzhg)

156 151 Thanks, Insom. I was just wondering if there was a protocol that preserves the most good. I'm sure the military or law enforcement runs into these situations.
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:24 PM (i/wJA)

It's a deeply personal decision that you'll have to make on your own. Hopefully the situation never arises.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:26 PM (NWiLs)

157 I figure law enforcement sees situations where people freeze instead of following directions.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:28 PM (i/wJA)

158 Get an MG-3 in 7.62NATO. 50 spare barrels. And 10,000 rounds.

Then have fun.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:25 PM (QSzhg)


That's about eight minutes of fun.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:29 PM (t+qrx)

159 Only a little OT:

this video never gets old.

https://twitter.com/Tropicow/status/1175540680845864966


3-gun, 14? years old.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 08:30 PM (c1yAg)

160 'That's about eight minutes of fun.'

Better than sex!

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2019 08:30 PM (Tnijr)

161 Heard this directly from a SWAT trainer. The idea behind the training is defeating body armor.

Who wears Level IV armor?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 22, 2019 08:31 PM (lD3vL)

162 Who wears Level IV armor?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 22, 2019 08:31 PM (lD3vL)
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Pistol.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 08:31 PM (WEBkv)

163 I was shot at or at least in front of and walking into the club that was being shot at. I had stucco / plaster in my hair from where the bullets hit the wall above my head. I saw the shooter on his motorcycle as he was shooting. Everything did kind of go to slow motion. I was young and dumb and indestructible and really didn't take in the seriousness of what happened. Just another Saturday night.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 08:31 PM (2DOZq)

164 thanks Grey Fox, that is the kind of counter comment I needed.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 08:32 PM (TazsE)

165 I read that the guys who pulled the LA bank robbery with automatic weapons that resulted in the shootout were wearing homemade armor partially made from steel belted tires.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 08:35 PM (2DOZq)

166 Interesting occurrence at church. The back entrance has been deemed usable only as an exit. The parish had an assessment done and it was determined that parishioners are safer if a gunman enters through the main entrance and cannot use the back entrance.
Now I'm not the brightest person on the planet but what's to keep an accomplice from letting the shooter in through the back entrance?
And who the heck is worrying this much about a possible shooting.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 22, 2019 08:36 PM (N3JsI)

167 Well, if you had to shoot through the pocket holster
and the pants, ideally you would take your pants off before shooting
someone.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:24 PM (t+qrx)

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"Yeah, so we're going to get you on negligent discharge and also indecent exposure."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:36 PM (cfSRQ)

168 Or shooter learns of this entry plan, tosses some firecrackers at the front door, and then runs to ambush everyone as they run out the back door.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:37 PM (QSzhg)

169 "Yeah, so we're going to get you on negligent discharge and also indecent exposure."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:36 PM (cfSRQ)


Something something "reasonable person doctrine" something.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

170 Any casualties yet?

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (i6/76)

171 Hi Weasel
Looking forward to the Texas meetup,welcome to the ranch!

Posted by: RancherBob at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (znYK8)

172 Anybody have experience with the Walther P22? It appears to be one of the most reliable semi-automatic .22 pistols.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (H8QX8)

173 I saw Raggedy Hole Badassery open for Guns 'N Roses at The Whiskey in '82

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (ZYB2s)

174 170 Any casualties yet?
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (i6/76)

Only our dignity.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (NWiLs)

175 Now I'm not the brightest person on the planet but what's to keep an accomplice from letting the shooter in through the back entrance?
And who the heck is worrying this much about a possible shooting.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 22, 2019 08:36 PM (N3JsI)


I think the Florida school shooter was let in a side door. It was not even necessarily an accomplice.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM (i/wJA)

176 Yeah, so we're going to get you on negligent discharge


A little penicillin will clear that right up.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:39 PM (yQpMk)

177 Something something "reasonable person doctrine" something.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:37 PM (t+qrx)
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If I use a six-inch barrel, I might get asked on a date, so there's always that. Which is nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:39 PM (cfSRQ)

178 Or shooter learns of this entry plan, tosses some firecrackers at the front door, and then runs to ambush everyone as they run out the back door.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:37 PM (QSzhg)



I don't know whether to be disturbed or aroused that you have gamed this out.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:40 PM (yQpMk)

179 homemade armor partially made from steel belted tires.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions


I had no idea we were this close to face-colander times.

Posted by: mikeski at September 22, 2019 08:40 PM (P1f+c)

180 The church could set themselves up like a jewelry store and the preacher can buzz people in.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 08:40 PM (2DOZq)

181 never enough caffeine: every one is worried about 4chan incel loners. they don't have accomplices.

terror by a team isn't as common these days. ISIS is dead and Qaeda won't cross the Saudis.

I wonder about Hizb though.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 08:41 PM (TazsE)

182 Our minister has a Sig in the pulpit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:41 PM (yQpMk)

183 Question:

Is $126 a good price on a PACT 3 shooting timer?

Brand new in box.

Let me know your thoughts, as I'm buying a quality timer for the TxMoMeet.

And I want an actual timer. I've never heard an "app" based one with a loud enough phone.

Thanks!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 22, 2019 08:42 PM (QzJWU)

184 I haven't been on the high school campus for awhile, but it sounds like they've instituted some precautions that are less effective than they think. I've heard they have screening at the entrance now, maybe metal detectors.

Haven't the school shootings in recent years happened at schools with metal detectors, or the shooter easily otherwise avoided any screening?

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:42 PM (i/wJA)

185 Baba Booey

Baba Booey

Posted by: hoss at September 22, 2019 08:43 PM (Ct+D2)

186 Grumpy, it is normally called flushing the game. In this case the evil monster is hunting two-legs. So not really that much of a leap.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:43 PM (QSzhg)

187 (((AG))) over on Twitter is, I guess, believes the whole Biden/Ukraine is some conspiracy theory? wth?

Posted by: JPV at September 22, 2019 08:43 PM (T6elx)

188 huh?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 08:43 PM (ZYB2s)

189
People always look at rate of fire, and tend 1) underestimate the effectiveness of armor against muscle-powdered weapons and 2) underestimate the range and accuracy of early firearms.
Posted by: Grey Fox

People whose lives depended on it, chose guns.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 08:43 PM (B7KlG)

190 Our minister has a Sig in the pulpit.
Posted by: Grump928(C)


It's filled with mercy.

Posted by: Nicholas D. Wolfwood at September 22, 2019 08:44 PM (P1f+c)

191 Grump. That's fabulous that your minister is armed.
We're in a Dayton suburb, I wonder if this has anything to do with the downtown shooting a few weeks ago. Lots of families with young kids. May have panicked people. The homicidal maniac lived not too far from the church.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 22, 2019 08:44 PM (N3JsI)

192 Our minister has a Sig in the pulpit.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:41 PM (yQpMk)


That's good. Command of the high ground is critical.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 08:44 PM (ZYB2s)

193 182
Our minister has a Sig in the pulpit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:41 PM (yQpMk)

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St. Martin of Muzzle Velocity?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:44 PM (cfSRQ)

194 Going out for a walk. Clear my head before resuming my homework.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:44 PM (i/wJA)

195 I man the Narthex of our church. Unfortunately I only have 7 rounds. I hope that if it comes to something bad, I will discover that there are other armed parishioners.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:45 PM (yQpMk)

196 JPV, what's with the (((hugz))) ?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 08:45 PM (TazsE)

197 That's good. Command of the high ground is critical.


I'm actually surprised that he has not asked me to armor the pulpit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:45 PM (yQpMk)

198 Our flautist, drummer, guitar player, pianist, and most of the elders are armed.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 08:46 PM (i/wJA)

199 I man the Narthex of our church.


Just be sure you have a good man in the apse.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 08:46 PM (ZYB2s)

200 "But Father, why do you want your robes and stole in Kevlar?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 08:46 PM (QSzhg)

201 Is $126 a good price on a PACT 3 shooting timer?

Brand new in box.


That's about one Starbuck's latte less than on Amazon so if it's from an individual seller, I think I'd go the extra to get it retail.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 08:46 PM (qc+VF)

202 Our minister has a Sig in the pulpit.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Does he have love and hate tattooed on his knuckles?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 08:46 PM (2DOZq)

203 Late to the party - just got back from church.

I took two newbies to the range this week. Standard fare - simply introduced them to firearm safety and they shot (poorly) both a 9mm Shield and later, an AR platform. Just like my other new shooters this month, they dug the AR and couldn't understand all the fuss from the libtards and their desire to deny the proles use of them. Loved that platform and I believe will vote accordingly. Yeah our team!!

Both of them had a ball and I am certain, will be back.

My range does not allow shooting from a holster. So, I am a newbie myself in defensive shooting. I must correct that.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 08:47 PM (Y4EXg)

204 Does he have love and hate tattooed on his knuckles?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 08:46 PM (2DOZq)



And a snakeskin suit and a smiling skull ring.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 08:48 PM (ZYB2s)

205 I do think wikipeople have it wrong, and sp. is Babalooie. I could be stupid, but definitely, Boo Boo was Yogi the Bear's sidekick. I loved all those guys - mustn't forget Top Cat, too. Urban dystopian cartoon ahead of its time right there, buddy.

I can hear it in my mind's eye, um, my vivid imagination like it was yesterday, "Hey Babalooie."

You had to be there.

Posted by: Shorty at September 22, 2019 08:49 PM (255O/)

206 I'm actually surprised that he has not asked me to armor the pulpit.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:45 PM (yQpMk)


I looked into ballistic blankets a while ago. Gosh, those things aren't cheap. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:49 PM (t+qrx)

207 Does he have love and hate tattooed on his knuckles?


LCMS RULZ

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 08:49 PM (yQpMk)

208 203
Late to the party - just got back from church.



I took two newbies to the range this week. Standard fare - simply
introduced them to firearm safety and they shot (poorly) both a 9mm
Shield and later, an AR platform. Just like my other new shooters this
month, they dug the AR and couldn't understand all the fuss from the
libtards and their desire to deny the proles use of them. Loved that
platform and I believe will vote accordingly. Yeah our team!!



Both of them had a ball and I am certain, will be back.



My range does not allow shooting from a holster. So, I am a newbie myself in defensive shooting. I must correct that.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 08:47 PM (Y4EXg)

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Have you thought about acquiring a .22 pistol? I find it's handy to train new shooters.

Plus, fun.

I have a Sig Mosquito but I'm looking at swapping it out for a Beretta Neo. Anyone have Neo? Thoughts?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:49 PM (cfSRQ)

209 @realDonaldTrump
Breaking News: The Ukrainian Government just said they weren't pressured at all during the "nice" call. Sleepy Joe Biden, on the other hand, forced a tough prosecutor out from investigating his son's company by threat of not giving big dollars to Ukraine. That's the real story!

Fuck you. War.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2019 08:51 PM (ZLI7S)

210
I looked into ballistic blankets a while ago. Gosh, those things aren't cheap. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:49 PM (t+qrx)

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Steel plate is probably cheaper, especially if you can pick up scrap pieces. Depends on how much you want to armor.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:52 PM (cfSRQ)

211 The weakest part of my SD practice is the draw and puting the gun in battery. I could blame that on the club rules where I shoot but I should still do it at home WITH AN UNLOADED GUN. This is especially important since I pocket carry.

PS: With pocket carry I clean off the lint every few days. This isn't a full cleaning, just wiping down the gun and making sure it functions properly.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 08:55 PM (bmdz3)

212 ...I have a Sig Mosquito but I'm looking at swapping it out for a Beretta Neo. Anyone have Neo? Thoughts?


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:49 PM (cfSRQ)



Browning Buckmark. I've got a UDX Ultimate Rosewood, but that's just 'cause she's so pretty.

Thing about the Buckmark, is that the grip (in the non-finger-grooved version) is a near duplicate of the vaunted 1911. And the safety, slide release and magazine release are all in the 1911 locations.

This, along with the fact that it weighs in about the 1911's heft, and that the grip "feel" is much closer to the actual 1911 than is Ruger's 22/45, favors the Browning.


But when you add the proverbial "breaks like a glass rod" trigger, and the VERY superior fit, finish and craftsmanship, and it's an undisputed win for the Browning Buckmark.

Except, that is, for the price.

The Browning is going to cost more. $100 more, in most cases.

But the "it's worth it" factor weighs heavily here, and the Browning has THAT, in abundance.

Oh, and my feeds every kind of ammo, and is frighteningly accurate with CCI Mini-Mags, and even Federal Match.

That's my $0.02.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 22, 2019 08:57 PM (QzJWU)

213
OK, I'm out. The "responsible adult" bell rings in seven hours

thx for the thread, Weasel

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 08:58 PM (prqrF)

214 I might be able to have a wwII .06 machine gun at the Texas meetup... would anyone be interested in seeing that?

Posted by: RancherBob at September 22, 2019 08:59 PM (znYK8)

215 Steel plate is probably cheaper, especially if you can pick up scrap pieces. Depends on how much you want to armor.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:52 PM (cfSRQ)

Yup.....here is old Russian body armor from 1944 in Finland.

https://tinyurl.com/y5mzjfca

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)

216 Well, if you had to shoot through the pocket holster and the pants, ideally you would take your pants off before shooting someone.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 08:24 PM


Don't plan on shooting some in the Book Thread, then.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 09:01 PM (DMUuz)

217 ...I might be able to have a wwII .06 machine gun at the Texas meetup... would anyone be interested in seeing that?

Posted by: RancherBob at September 22, 2019 08:59 PM (znYK



I'll sign up right now to fire a 100 rd. belt. Price it within reason, and split the profit between the owner of the MG and towards expenses for the Mo Meet itself.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 22, 2019 09:01 PM (QzJWU)

218 Shorty, TopCat's buddy was Benny, right?

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 09:02 PM (UUkQp)

219 PS: With pocket carry I clean off the lint every few days. This isn't a full cleaning, just wiping down the gun and making sure it functions properly.


It's cotton smeg.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 09:02 PM (yQpMk)

220 Newbies should be given a Ruger Mk. III, disassembled.

When they have reassembled it, they may proceed.

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 09:04 PM (DMUuz)

221 Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I have owned a Beretta Neo and 10 magazines for it for over a decade.

My take is it is a stylish gun that points very easily. It is fun to shoot. Easy to clean. And it is fragile on accepting cheap 22LR shells. Jams and FTF happen.

High quality, expensive, match shells work fine. I do not have the gunsmithing skills to fix the issue of mass produced WalMart grade shells jamming.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:05 PM (u82oZ)

222 Newbies should be given a Ruger Mk. III, disassembled.

When they have reassembled it, they may proceed.

;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 09:04 PM (DMUuz)



I get it. This is kind of like making the Karate Kid wax Mr. Miyagi's car, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:07 PM (ZYB2s)

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 09:08 PM (UUkQp)

224 I've practiced rolling off the bed, grabbing my 870 and belly crawling to the bathroom to call 911.

Posted by: S.Lynn at September 22, 2019 09:08 PM (oYThS)

225 Who is (((AG)))?

Posted by: IrishEi at September 22, 2019 09:08 PM (sGotD)

226 Well that 223 was a blank. Bad primer?

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 09:08 PM (UUkQp)

227 "224 I've practiced rolling off the bed, grabbing my 870 and belly crawling to the bathroom to call 911.

Posted by: S.Lynn at September 22, 2019 09:08 PM (oYThS) "



Good realistic scenario.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 09:09 PM (c1yAg)

228 Only our dignity.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 08:38 PM


* looks around in amazement *

It's back in stock?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 09:09 PM (DMUuz)

229 Probably a Tull Ammo round...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:09 PM (QSzhg)

230 G'night everyone, and thanks, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 09:10 PM (c1yAg)

231 I get it. This is kind of like making the Karate Kid wax Mr. Miyagi's car, right?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:07 PM


Indeed. Or Grasshopper snatching the pebble from the palm.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 09:12 PM (DMUuz)

232 Well that 223 was a blank. Bad primer?

Bolt bounce. Try an H2 buffer in it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 09:13 PM (yQpMk)

233 I get it. This is kind of like making the Karate Kid wax Mr. Miyagi's car, right?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2019 09:07 PM (ZYB2s)


Maybe like leaving his car in a lousy part of town and having him track down all the parts and reassemble them into a functioning car.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 09:13 PM (t+qrx)

234 Tulammo is only good for russkie gubs, Anna, but yeah you're right.

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 09:13 PM (UUkQp)

235 Mr Grasshopper can't snatch themselves from my shoes out here. never seen so many stupid bugs out before this year

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 09:13 PM (TazsE)

236 Boulder t'hobo

Has Denver Metro gotten buggier, or is it just the great unwashed showing up in bigger numbers?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:17 PM (u82oZ)

237 ... "setting up an indoor range". Very curious about that. It sounds ideal.

I would like to do that but have no idea.
First thing that comes to mind is the backstop.
And then the noise. Guess a low load 22 wouldn't annoy the neighbors.

Would appreciate some tips. Thanks.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:17 PM (zNIcM)

238 My neighbor just called. She wants to borrow the cat carrier. Because she's on the way back from Tahquamenon Falls, and found an animal stunned on the side of the road. She thought it was an osprey, but it might be an owl. It's in a plastic bin right now. She wants the carrier to take it to the DNR (I told her that the DNR, to say nothing of the feds, may take issue with this action). She had to hang up the phone because some kid of raptor-borne lice have infested her car and are now jumping all over her (and presumably her daughter) as she's driving back from Tahquamenon Falls on a Sunday night.

I guess I'll go put the cat carrier on the porch.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 09:17 PM (t+qrx)

239 Frosty

I've seen electronic indoor ranges for sale. Price is getting lower for those.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:18 PM (u82oZ)

240 i'm always worried that one day we will be out, i'll see a threat, and Resident 3vil will want to argue about stuff, because she's a "strong independent woman who can think for herself" and not do what she's told when there is not time to discuss shit, just do it.

i see things other people don't because i had a different upbringing and jobs than most people.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 09:21 PM (VXS7N)

241 if the lice/vermin are jumping off, the animal is dead.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 09:22 PM (VXS7N)

242 I'm done, folks. Good fun, Weasel.

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2019 09:23 PM (UUkQp)

243 Work tomorrow.

Have a blessed night everyone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:24 PM (u82oZ)

244 if the lice/vermin are jumping off, the animal is dead.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 09:22 PM (VXS7N)


That's what I was thinking too. I was thinking a lot of things as the story unfolded, but it all came down to "ok, I will put the carrier on your porch. Have a good evening, please drive safely."

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 09:24 PM (t+qrx)

245 Newbies should be given a Ruger Mk. III, disassembled.



When they have reassembled it, they may proceed.



;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 09:04 PM (DMUuz)
---
that is just cruel.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 09:24 PM (VXS7N)

246 Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 09:17 PM (t+qrx)

Oh dear, that sounds like quite a night.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 22, 2019 09:25 PM (dUJdY)

247 239 Frosty

I've seen electronic indoor ranges for sale. Price is getting lower for those.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:18 PM (u82oZ)


Weasel ran some of that info a while back. But if I interpreted him correctly he set up an indoor range at home and it wasn't electronic. That is very cool.
I want to do that.

Ignites Weasel Signal.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:25 PM (zNIcM)

248 Forgot.

Thank you Weasel. I need to work on my 16 ga shooting skeet skills. I suck at that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 09:25 PM (u82oZ)

249 Mitt Romney
45s

If the president asked or pressured Ukraine's president to investigate his political rival, either directly or indirectly or through his personal attorney, it would be extremely troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:27 PM (o1fzk)

250 Hogmartin #38:
raptor-borne lice have infested her car and are now jumping all over her (and presumably her daughter)

Ugh. Grim smile of bemused sympathy. "No good deed goes unrewarded."

Sometimes you can dodge some of that "reward."

We saw an injured owl on the side of the road, looked like broken wing from a car hit.

You know those videos where the injured wild animal seems to recognize that the human is trying to help and don't go all feral on your face? As the kids say, yeah, no. No way were we approaching that still-active dinosaur.

Called the county sheriff, who called the emergency pet vet authorized to help. I don't recall whether we ever found out if it survived.

Posted by: mindful webworker - barely comprehensible at September 22, 2019 09:28 PM (rTqAd)

251 I guess I'll go put the cat carrier on the porch.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 09:17 PM (t+qrx)

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I think there are DNR conservation officers between you and the U.P.

Call it a hunch.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:28 PM (cfSRQ)

252 Some years ago a Kite was flying in my backyard and my neighbor shot it. He was too far away to kill it so my wife and I took it to a vet place that specialized in wild animals.

I've seen three kites in my whole life and this dumbass shoots one. Anybody here live in an area of Kite infestation?

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:30 PM (zNIcM)

253 If the president asked or pressured Ukraine's
president to investigate his political rival, either directly or
indirectly or through his personal attorney, it would be extremely
troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.


Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:27 PM (o1fzk)

---
What if Ukraine was trying to tell us the guy was corrupt but Obama blocked all the channels?

How does Mitt feel about that?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:30 PM (cfSRQ)

254
If the president asked or pressured Ukraine's president the Department of Justice and CIA to investigate his political rival, either directly or indirectly or through his personal attorney, it would be extremely troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.
Posted by: JoeF
---------

Edited

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:30 PM (xSo9G)

255 Mitt Romney
45s
If the president asked or pressured Ukraine's president to investigate his political rival, either directly or indirectly or through his personal attorney, it would be extremely troubling in the extreme.
Critical for the facts to come out.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:27 PM (o1fzk)
~~~~~

Will no one rid us of this meddlesome pest?

Posted by: IrishEi at September 22, 2019 09:31 PM (sGotD)

256 Hmm . Caught a whiff of Barrel there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:31 PM (xSo9G)

257 Was the kid upset their kite was ruined?

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 09:31 PM (4HMlb)

258 252
Some years ago a Kite was flying in my backyard and my neighbor shot it.
He was too far away to kill it so my wife and I took it to a vet place
that specialized in wild animals.



I've seen three kites in my whole life and this dumbass shoots one. Anybody here live in an area of Kite infestation?

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:30 PM (zNIcM)

---
I had an art class in middle school where we made triangle Kites. They descended like a plague on the surrounding area.

No one shot at them, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:31 PM (cfSRQ)

259 I love my neighbor but seriously, couldn't she have just killed someone instead? I might have a chance at beating an accessory-after-the-fact rap for hiding a body, but the DNR and the Fish and Wildlife Service? Migratory, possibly protected raptor? *shudder*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 09:32 PM (t+qrx)

260 ONT

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

261 Just double-checked this story with Milady.

She doesn't remember any of it.

I'm probably making the whole thing up, but, who cares? It's the inferwebz.

ONT Nood, BTW
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=383421

Posted by: mindful webworker - barely comprehensible at September 22, 2019 09:33 PM (rTqAd)

262 Since I can't really practice draw or follow-up
shots, I've been working on presentation and sight acquisition. Starting
from compressed ready (pistol level and downrange, between waist and
chest height, elbows bent with the pistol pulled in), pick a point on
the target and raise the pistol to firing height and press out towards
the target while visually acquiring the front sight. Fire when it's
lined up, and follow through to acquire the same picture after recoil. I
also download the magazines with a different number of rounds, so I
have to reload during the string, and I don't know when it'll be.



https://youtu.be/Ctn7k5JBRTg

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 07:34 PM (t+qrx)
I was going to suggest this as a compromise. This is basically the second half of the draw taught by many agencies, where the "push out" onto the target, acquiring their sight picture and squeezing off the first round.You can practice the full draw at home with an empty firearm.


Posted by: elliot at September 22, 2019 09:33 PM (1PAtI)

263 Mitt Romney needs to put a sock in it.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:34 PM (zNIcM)

264 I repeated Mitt Romney's comment word for word to illustrate what a weasel he is.
Has he ever demanded we should look into BIDEN'S dealings with the Ukraine?
Has he ever asked that we look into the Deep States ongoing effort to get ride of Trump?

Romney is a backstabbing turd---and an obvious, predictable one at that.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 09:35 PM (o1fzk)

265

... I took two newbies to the range this week. Standard fare - simply introduced them to firearm safety and they shot (poorly) both a 9mm Shield and later, an AR platform. Just like my other new shooters this month, they dug the AR and couldn't understand all the fuss from the libtards and their desire to deny the proles use of them...

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 08:47 PM (Y4EXg)


Messaging.

NRA (etc) have tried to get away from the "AR-15" by declaring the format to be the "Modern Sporting Rifle".

If they are going to go with renaming things for spin just call it a general purpose rifle. No caps, nothing special. Get news type, press, and politicians who are pro 2nd to just the platform that, general purpose rifle. Nothing special.

It's just a general purpose rifle.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 09:37 PM (1g7ch)

266 >>>I had an art class in middle school where we made triangle Kites. They descended like a plague on the surrounding area.

No one shot at them, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:31 PM (cfSRQ)


Genius

A Kite is a small hawk that has the ability to hover.

Posted by: Frosty at September 22, 2019 09:37 PM (zNIcM)

267 They are really cool They would hunt in Downtown ATL near Grant Park for prey..

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 09:41 PM (4HMlb)

268 RE:comment 172....walther P 22, owned several, great little guns. mrs.Jasons house gun is a P-22 with a Tactical Inovations suppressor.

Posted by: jasonj at September 22, 2019 09:43 PM (qSQLQ)

269 Anyone fired the Bond Bullpup9? Can't find one locally to shoot.
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 08:03 PM (B7KlG)

Saw one at the Mesa gun show yesterday.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 10:11 PM (jEgzt)

270 If your range doesn't allow reasonably realistic training, then you need to go find a range that does. Or some public land, should you be lucky enough to have some you can drive out to.

IDPA and other competitive options are very good at letting you practice under types of stress that are hard to arrange on your own. However, if you're just starting out with serious training at this late point, they offer a poor ratio of training to time and money spent. And they are NOT a substitute for focused training; the issue is not that it's a game, but that as games that need to cycle lots of competitors through quickly, they have additional safety rules and conventions that are counterproductive for fighting-focused training.

You will never, ever see a shooting match allow anything similar to a serious live-fire exercise. You are likely better served by taking the funds needed for a few competitions and spending them on a couple of classes - first a basic level, then a more advanced class of the sort that usually requires basic courses first. You should come away from those with a set of skills and drills to practice and an understanding of what they're about.

Ignoring important non-shooting skills like medical stuff, this is pretty much the hierarchy of things to learn about shooting;

1. the fundamental rules2. the manual of arms for your firearm3. the basics of hitting a static target on a square range (sights, breathing, trigger, etc)4. positional shooting (including cars and the use of holsters- this is important) and shooting on the move5. the basics of fighting with a partner6. fighting with multiple pairs of people - the fundamental small unit drills
..Most yokels do 3, and maybe a little of 1 so they don't get booted from a range. Most studious civilian shooters get 1-3 but never move beyond it.

4 is adequate for self defense. If you do not make it to 5, you are likely to get your shit wrecked in anything other than a self defense shooting. It is not hard to learn, but it is significantly harder to DO than people realize until they try it.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 22, 2019 10:51 PM (67XdO)

271 Hola! All my friends in gray boxes! Commenting before being willowed, I hope. Just back from a weekend camp with my Scouts at Bowman Lake, Glacier NP. We took our kayaks. Every three years or so, each Scout builds his own 17 ft sea-rated kayak. We had fun, but no fish pics for Bandersnatch. OTOH, LAST week I zero'ed the 30-06 and THIS week, i'ma put a new scope on my BM-59. That's a semi auto M1 made by Beretta with a 20 round removable box magazine. Now, to go read what everyone else did. And before this closes, ThanX! Weasel!

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at September 22, 2019 10:54 PM (gMngZ)

272 270 If your range doesn't allow reasonably realistic training, then you need to go find a range that does. Or some public land, should you be lucky enough to have some you can drive out to.

---

I've been to enough public ranges with holes in the ceilings, stall walls, and even the walls behind the stalls (in the opposite direction that guns should be fired) that I can understand why the limit movements that aren't down range.

I took my 10 Y.O. son to the range last month for the first time, and he was shocked at how many holes were in places they shouldn't be.

Posted by: elliot at September 22, 2019 11:18 PM (1PAtI)

273 Lovely threads these days, boys, just lovely.
A Monday morning gripe:

"...these are an excellent training tool."

WTF? Are you British, writing in Britain? The mised use of plural and singular in a sentence has become a "thing" of late and it is as irritating as a "Climate Change" rally.

It is, they are.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at September 23, 2019 04:52 AM (AsjQP)

Food Thread:

baconboard.jpeg

I have been eating a lot of bacon recently, both for the undeniable pleasure of those delectable, fatty morsels of porcine wonder, direct from a pig that gave his all for me, and for the convenient bonus that it really fills me up in the morning. Toss in an egg or two (my current obsession is with hard-boiling them), and you have yourself a fine and tasty meal. I play around with the condiments I use on the eggs, and have settled for a bit (okay, a dab. well, a large dab on each bite) of mayonnaise, but a spoonful of spicy chili crisp hits the spot too.

Back to bacon! Why is it so good? Well, it has pretty much everything pleasing about food. The fat provides wonderful mouth feel and a succulent texture, the salt gives us a pop of pleasure, the smoky meat has just enough flavor and texture to please, and to top it off, it comes in a convenient shape...just perfect for munching neatly or folding into one's mouth in a frantic orgy of gluttony and pleasure.

Commenter "Boswell' recently had an interesting thought...

Kale is the only thing that could actually ruin bacon.
But I stand here before you in all of my reactionary glory and say, "Even kale goes well with bacon!" I recently had a meal, courtesy of a cousin, which included a great kale and bacon and blue cheese salad. Great stuff!

So...bacon may be the perfect food. It compliments everything and ruins nothing. And don't throw ice cream at me. I have had ice cream with bacon sprinkles and it is a fine, fine thing.

******

I bought a quart of milk to make a Béchamel, and for whatever reason I never needed it. So I tucked the milk into the corner of the refrigerator, where I know the temperature is slightly below freezing. I hadn't opened the container, and since it was pasteurized (like 99.9% of milk in America), it was essentially sterile. Fast forward six months (yes, you read that correctly), and all of a sudden I needed a Béchamel, and I didn't feel like going out for a fresh quart of milk.

So what does a cheap bastard do? Use the damned milk of course. It was fine. The container wasn't inflated, the milk wasn't discolored, it smelled like...um...milk, and aside from a bit of separation (which I fixed with a vigorous shake), it was indistinguishable from fresh(er) milk.

My wife was disgusted, and refused to eat the spectacular Cauliflower à la Bluebell that I made with six-month old milk and heels of old cheese, from which I trimmed the mold and desiccated bits.
GAO report examines how date label confusion contributes to food waste
I'm not suggesting that everyone use six-month old stuff, but we do fixate on the various sell by/good until/best before messages that we see on our food. For instance, if a can of peas has an expiration date one year out, then unless the can has a structural failure, I can't imagine that the peas wouldn't be safe two years or three years out. Sure, eventually the metal on the outside and the coating on the inside will decay enough for something bad to happen, but I doubt very much that the eight-year-old can of peas in the back of your pantry will kill you.

It is not concern for the starving in the world that motivated me to post this link, because after all, the world produces plenty of food. it is geopolitical issues that prevent us from feeding the world. Hell, if America wanted to, we could take farming seriously, spend the subsidies intelligently and probably feed the world on our own!

No, it was a very conservative sense that we shouldn't waste. Could I have afforded the $2.25 for another quart of milk? And the $1 for gas and wear and tear to get to the store? Sure. But why waste something that is perfectly okay?

******

It's nothing like a classic burger, although it certainly sounds interesting as a peek into the food of bygone years. But the gushing hagiographic tone of the writer is off-putting. I doubt very much that he knows much about Hemingway, who, while one of my favorite authors, was also a prick to most of the people in his life, including all of his wives and all of his children.
How to Make Ernest Hemingway’s Favorite Hamburger
One of Hemingway's many conceits was his arrogant assumption that the way he did things was the best way. And this recipe doesn't disabuse me of that impression.

I might give some version of it a shot, although i am reminded of what a foodie friend said to me when I mentioned that i was going to adulterate a burger with some innocuous ingredient (chopped onion I think). "That's meatloaf!"

[Hat Tip: Misanthropic Humanitarian]

******

Gordon Ramsay can cook, and he can run restaurants. I have eaten in a few, and everything worked the way it was supposed to, and that is a rare and impressive thing in an industry known for flakiness and stupidity and venality. But he has a reputation as a bit of a dick. Well, maybe more than a bit, but here he is in a different setting. Gordon Ramsay on "Hot Ones" which is a hoot! He seems like an actual human being, with a sense of humor and a brain!
[Did I post this awhile ago? Hell, I have no idea, but it's worth a watch]
******

Back before Mexico turned into a war zone, I used to go occasionally, and I would bring back bottles of mezcal that I would buy from mom-and-pop stores. The stuff was probably homemade in less-than-sanitary or safe conditions, and I would filter it when I got back to civilization...through a coffee filter! I chose to ignore the risk of heavy metals or other crap, because I was young and stupid.
Burros, Stones, and Machetes: Here’s How Mezcal Is Distilled
But there has been a renaissance in the mezcal world, and some of the stuff I have tasted recently has been quite good.

[Hat Tip: redc1c4 ]

******

Oh great. Now I have to start using dried chickpeas instead of canned, and make my easy and rather good hummus recipe into a PITA (see what I did there?). How To make Hummus Oh, the guy's enthusiasm is infectious! Seriously, dried chickpeas seem like the way to go, and there are other longcuts in this video that make a lot of sense.

And here is Chris Kimball's new venture, called "Milk Street," with a similar version of How To make Hummus

******

Speaking of cool ways to open wine bottles...


******

Food and cooking tips, Castelvetrano olives with a sprinkle of chili flakes, young wild pigs, crisp bacon (although I am moving toward less crisp), thick and fluffy pita, and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit. And yes, shaking a Manhattan is blasphemy...it's in the Bible!

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Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:01 PM (gzG43)

2 Corgis called.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:01 PM (gzG43)

3 mmmmm... Bacon.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:01 PM (gzG43)

4 Forgot to send in my stromboli pictures

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 04:02 PM (ZCEU2)

5 I have been eating a lot of bacon recently,

I have too, BLTs or simply bacon only on a bun. I was bacon hungry.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 04:04 PM (mpXpK)

6 My wife puts chili crisp on just about half of everything we eat. Yeah, she's Burmese, why do you ask?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 04:04 PM (7s3Gx)

7 Crazy 'Bout My Bacon

https://ihr.fm/2ktFWdB

Posted by: Chris Cassone at September 22, 2019 04:05 PM (/17rF)

8 I found an unopened bottle of bbq sauce dated 2015 in the pantry yesterday. Looks fine. Thinking about using it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:05 PM (gzG43)

9 Olive garden serves soup tuscano that has kale, bacon, potato, and Italian sausage. Yum! Hubbymayhem got the recipe and makes this delight here at home sometimes. I need to poke him about making some soon. Just writing about it is making my stomach growl.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:05 PM (myjNJ)

10 2 Hairy Bikers Mediterranean Food cookbook via the public library is full of wonderful sounding things to try ...

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 04:06 PM (LPnfS)

11
No booze in Hemingway's favorite hamburger.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 04:06 PM (7rVsF)

12 Whew, for a minute there I thought CBD was gonna say bacon could not save every known food.

Note:Still will not eat another bite of kale.

Posted by: tbodie at September 22, 2019 04:06 PM (0t+fn)

13 As a wine enthusiast and a old port bottle to open someday that was way cool, why not just decant it as sediment needs to be removed as I said last week it iss nasty stuff.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (ZCEU2)

14 Re: old milk.


there's recipes for baked goods that use sour milk. I had some milk about three weeks past its expire date that had started to turn, so I found this recipe for scones:

https://tinyurl.com/y6hkduyq

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (kD8Fh)

15 What's chili crisp?

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (gzG43)

16 8
I found an unopened bottle of bbq sauce dated 2015 in the pantry yesterday. Looks fine. Thinking about using it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:05 PM (gzG43)


If it has tomato in it I would not trust it.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (mpXpK)

17 madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:05 PM (myjNJ)

YES !!!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (LPnfS)

18 Do dried fruit last forever? I also have a recipe for cherry muffins that use dried cherries and I have some left from last holiday season.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:08 PM (kD8Fh)

19 14
Re: old milk.





there's recipes for baked goods that use sour milk. I had some milk
about three weeks past its expire date that had started to turn, so I
found this recipe for scones:



https://tinyurl.com/y6hkduyq

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (kD8Fh)



My great grandmother used to use soured milk for making biscuits.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 04:08 PM (mpXpK)

20 What's chili crisp?

Mainly chili flakes, some peanuts and salt in an oil base. Quite tasty and an easy way to add some heat to a dish you've already made if it needs a bump up on the spice side...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (7s3Gx)

21
I thought many years ago there were all kinds of recipes for using old milk, stale bread, etc. when food was more expensive and harder to keep.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (7rVsF)

22 I also have elevated bacon to a lofty pedestal. Normally paired with scrambled eggs. Eggs topped with sour cream and Frank's or Texas Pete's hotsauce.

If I'm jonesing bad for it, some hard fried scrapple with it. Don't be haters.

A gallon of coffee to wash it all down ensures a perfect meal.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (Y4EXg)

23 Bacon and Tomato sammich. Forget that lettuce crap.

Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (/+b+k)

24 Blogger SmittenKitchen/Deb Perlman has a recipe for hummus that directs you to skin the chickpeas. She agrees it is a PITA, but claims it's worth it.

Would you be surprised if I told you I haven't gotten around to trying that one yet? *shrugs*

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (bDqIh)

25 Yeah olddog, you might want to pass on that

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (ZCEU2)

26 Do dried fruit last forever?

Unfortunately, no. Dried apricots in particular get pretty weird after some time.

Still, try eating one of the cherries and if the flavor's ok, go with it...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 04:10 PM (7s3Gx)

27 I have poured hot bacon fat on kale to make a wilted salad.

It worked.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 04:11 PM (yQpMk)

28 *My great grandmother used to use soured milk for making biscuits.
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 04:08 PM (mpXpK)*

Sour dough biscuits ftw.

Posted by: tbodie at September 22, 2019 04:11 PM (0t+fn)

29 Today i wandered out to pick up persimmons and run them thru a food mill so we can haz pudding and cookies this winter. Still have persimmon pulp in freezer from 2 yrs ago.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:11 PM (myjNJ)

30 I thought many years ago there were all kinds of recipes for using old milk, stale bread, etc. when food was more expensive and harder to keep.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 04:09 PM (7rVsF)


"panzanella" is a salad that uses stale bread cubes, it's from the Tuscan hill towns. My Lebanese friends have a similar dish for day old flatbread, it's called "fatoush".

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:12 PM (kD8Fh)

31 I remember some of my mother's baking recipes required sour milk. Our milk never got to that stage because my mother always had to have milk in her coffee. And she drank plenty of it. So she would put vinegar in the milk for certain recipes.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2019 04:15 PM (9+jnX)

32 Made these banana pancakes for breakfast this morning - yummy!

https://tinyurl.com/y8npx3ss

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:15 PM (bDqIh)

33 "panzanella" is a salad that uses stale bread cubes, it's from the Tuscan hill towns. My Lebanese friends have a similar dish for day old flatbread, it's called "fatoush".
Posted by: kallisto

----

My Sis's husband asked to help Nonna TP cook one Christmas Eve. Nonna reluctantly said ok. When Nonna was breaking up the stale bread for the "panzanell", bil said, what are you using that for? I brought these!! (A bag of store bought croutons)

The marriage didn't last.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 04:17 PM (Y4EXg)

34 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 04:18 PM (arJlL)

35 Nonna reluctantly said ok.

Nonna wanted to keep peace in the family.


Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:18 PM (kD8Fh)

36 My Sis's husband asked to help Nonna TP cook one
Christmas Eve. Nonna reluctantly said ok. When Nonna was breaking up the
stale bread for the "panzanell", bil said, what are you using that for?
I brought these!! (A bag of store bought croutons)



The marriage didn't last.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 04:17 PM (Y4EXg)

Seems like a harsh reaction.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2019 04:18 PM (9+jnX)

37 "panzanella" is a salad that uses stale bread cubes, it's from the Tuscan hill towns.

Sooooo, how do they get the stale bread cubes from Tuscany to America ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 04:20 PM (arJlL)

38 chili crisp https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3n6tt92

Oh so yummy

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:20 PM (RfzVr)

39 Nonna wanted to keep peace in the family.

And then, in Elvis' voice she sang ....

"There will be peace in the family fooooor me..."

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 04:22 PM (arJlL)

40 Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:15 PM (bDqIh)

That looks so good, Lizzy.


Has everyone ventured into pumpkin spice land yet? I sure have! Had my first pumpkin bread of the season this a.m., storebought. Here's an article about the delights of the pumpkin:

https://www.chowhound.com/

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:22 PM (kD8Fh)

41 "Sooooo, how do they get the stale bread cubes from Tuscany to America ?"
-Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 04:20 PM (arJlL)

Dry-bulk and general cargo ships, would be my guess. You just had to scrape off the mold when it got to The New Country.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at September 22, 2019 04:24 PM (Ckg4U)

42 If it has tomato in it I would not trust it.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM

Tomato paste. But I figure the vinegar in it is good preservative.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:24 PM (gzG43)

43 *off, damnable MSM sock*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 22, 2019 04:25 PM (Ckg4U)

44 >>>has a recipe for hummus that directs you to skin the chickpeas. She agrees it is a PITA, but claims it's worth it.

Your perception is correct Lizzy. I tried it. Huge PITA and no discernable improvement in taste or texture.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:25 PM (RfzVr)

45 My wife puts chili crisp on just about half of everything we eat. Yeah, she's Burmese, why do you ask?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 04:04 PM (7s3Gx)


I seem to recall that you're in Michigan, right? Wondering if you've had a chance to try the Burmese restaurant in Lansing on South Cedar, and if so, what your (and her) impression of it might be.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 04:27 PM (t+qrx)

46 Re: filtering alcohol, saw a Dan Akroyd interview recently and he described the lengths they go to filtering his vodka. Diamonds. Filtered over diamonds. It's won awards, so maybe this extreme filtering works? Or, it's that they don't do additives.

https://www.crystalheadvodka.com/en/ourstory

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:27 PM (bDqIh)

47 The marriage didn't last.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 04:17 PM (Y4EXg)

Seems like a harsh reaction.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2019 04:18 PM

Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:27 PM (gzG43)

48 Bacon! I love bacon, BLTs being a favorite.

My milk will go bad by the go bad date for some reason. I think it is mainly because I drink out of the bottle on occasion and the germs from my mouth helps to taint the milk.

I once ate a container of yogurt which had been expired over 6 months. Nice and tangy, reminded me of someone but I couldn't remember her name.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 04:27 PM (Z+IKu)

49 Looking ahead to thanksgiving/Christmas, etc...

how about some pumpkin gnocchi, with sage/crème fraiche sauce:

https://tinyurl.com/y446xayc

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 04:28 PM (kD8Fh)

50 Nott food but related. .
I'm in the process of making some new cloth napkins. Got the fabric cut into 15 inch squares an just have to run them thru the sewing machine.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:28 PM (myjNJ)

51 >>Your perception is correct Lizzy. I tried it. Huge PITA and no discernable improvement in taste or texture.

Heh, thanks!!
You've saved me the trouble of trying it of kicking myself for not wanting to spend the time to try it.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:29 PM (bDqIh)

52 I started making pasta at home again and freezing portions. A couple of different sauces that I take the time to make ahead will keep pretty well in the fridge. Warm one up a little, 2 minutes for the pasta and I'm eating good. A lot easier than cooking up a pound of dried for one person.

Posted by: dartist at September 22, 2019 04:29 PM (K22Va)

53
g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 04:30 PM (or3YC)

54 Grandma's rhubarb cake (TDG p.36) has sour milk in it. One cup of milk with two tablespoons of vinegar

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 22, 2019 04:31 PM (/UQ/R)

55 Persimmon pudding uses sour milk or buttermilk.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:32 PM (myjNJ)

56 Eggs + Gochujang (korean pepper paste) is the way to go.

Posted by: f2000 at September 22, 2019 04:32 PM (9WiM6)

57 Hey, AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 04:32 PM (t+qrx)

58 Bacon and coffee.

Your basic food groups...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 04:33 PM (6qErC)

59
hey, hogmartin

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 04:33 PM (or3YC)

60 I must be the fat ratio when it comes to milk expiration. When I buy heavy cream I am always amazed how long it is intended to last, maybe 1 1/2 to 2 months, as opposed to 2% is usually about 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2019 04:34 PM (9+jnX)

61 The deep fried bacon at the TX MoMe is the greatest.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2019 04:35 PM (oSQM4)

62 It not I.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2019 04:35 PM (9+jnX)

63 The scones I made this morning used buttermilk as an option over heavy cream. Had the buttermilk already. They turned out great!

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 04:37 PM (AQjWg)

64 The "Gordon Ramsay is an asshole" thing was his persona for those TV shows. The cooking show Simon Cowell. On Master Chef this season, he was fine - it was one of the other judges that was kind of a dick.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 22, 2019 04:37 PM (4OV6C)

65 We have eaten commercially canned goods, mainly veggies, that are 5 years outdated with no ill effects. Of course would never eat a dented or bulging can.

It is my understanding that Hormel products (Spam, Dinty Moore, etc) are processed in such a way as to be good for 20 years. I don't know about 20 years, but can attest to 5 years for Spam, f one considers Spam to be edible to begin with. ;-)

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:38 PM (RfzVr)

66 Lots of good prices on various pork cuts lately.

Got a nice pork belly and did the "pre part slice" bit. Some salt, pepper, cayenne pepper, then indirect grill.

Turned out better than expected...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 04:38 PM (6qErC)

67 60 I must be the fat ratio when it comes to milk expiration. When I buy heavy cream I am always amazed how long it is intended to last, maybe 1 1/2 to 2 months, as opposed to 2% is usually about 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2019 04:34 PM (9+jnX)

I've found the expiration for a paper carton of 2% is a month longer than a plastic jug. It's the opacity, I believe.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 22, 2019 04:39 PM (4OV6C)

68 Most people don't run the refrigerator/freezer at the correct temperature. Freezer should be about -10F and the Fridge about +35F or so. I can buy 5 gallons of whole Milk at a pop and it's just fine for a month or so.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 22, 2019 04:40 PM (PF3Gg)

69 Sooooo, how do they get the stale bread cubes from Tuscany to America ?


Container ship. They start out fresh.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 04:40 PM (yQpMk)

70 But I stand here before you in all of my reactionary glory and say, "Even kale goes well with bacon!" I recently had a meal, courtesy of a cousin, which included a great kale and bacon and blue cheese salad. Great stuff!
So...bacon may be the perfect food. It compliments everything and ruins nothing. And don't throw ice cream at me. I have had ice cream with bacon sprinkles and it is a fine, fine thing.


heh, so true
Doughnuts with bacon isn't too bad either.

During my recent illness, bacon and all smoked foods was a no-no, so that was sad, so I do cut back now - mostly on smoking meats. But there is always bacon in the house.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 04:40 PM (vEIlU)

71 >>>I'm in the process of making some new cloth napkins.
Got the fabric cut into 15 inch squares an just have to run them thru
the sewing machine.




Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench)


Well that makes my lazy ass feel even more inadequate.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:43 PM (RfzVr)

72 mostly on smoking meats.

Wow. And they tell me cigarettes and vaping are serious. You go girl!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:44 PM (myjNJ)

73 I should take the opportunity to thank Ace, for talking about his fasting. This installed the germ of an idea in my brain, and led me to investigate intermittent fasting for weight loss.

Anyway I've lost 30 pounds in 90 days, give or take. No exercise to speak of. Thanks, Ace! I'm going to make a Reuben sandwich today, some Doritos, and Ice Cold milk. And a couple pickles.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 22, 2019 04:45 PM (PF3Gg)

74 Speaking of cool ways to open wine bottles...

I guess, when in need...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 04:45 PM (vEIlU)

75 CBD, thanks for the Gordon Ramsey video. I love that guy. Not homo.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:46 PM (gzG43)

76 Pasteurized, homogenized, irradiated too!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 04:46 PM (yQpMk)

77 The deep fried bacon at the TX MoMe is the greatest.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2019 04:35

Only deep fried bacon once. It sure does curl up.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:47 PM (gzG43)

78 Ernest had to eat whatever he killed. For most sportsmen, such a rule is practical (and often delicious), especially when the game consists of rabbits, venison, elk, and fowl, all of which Ernest consumed with gusto; he had a particularly punctilious recipe for campfire-cooked trout.

nice link

I get the trout thing. I can't get enough of it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 04:47 PM (vEIlU)

79 Well that makes my lazy ass feel even more inadequate.
Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:43 PM (RfzVr)

Why?
My sister in law makes gorgeous quilts but has never made cloth napkins. I make napkins and potholders and drink coasters. My big quilt project is sitting in the same spot for three years. Maybe I will get it started this fall.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:48 PM (myjNJ)

80 mostly on smoking meats

What's so unhealthy about smoked meats, the salt?

Posted by: dartist at September 22, 2019 04:49 PM (K22Va)

81 olddog, it does indeed. I just think of it as a bacon bonbon.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2019 04:49 PM (oSQM4)

82 Seriously, dried chickpeas seem like the way to go

Another level of experience, yes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 04:50 PM (vEIlU)

83 Wish me luck Horde
I picked up a couple of sample bottles, airline size, of locally distilled booze.
One purports to be 80 proof scotch.
The other a 105 proof brandy.
Because this state is retarded tasting, at the farmer's market is not allowed. You may however, sniff, the stuff.
Wine, beer and weed tasting though is totes okay.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 22, 2019 04:50 PM (7EIHE)

84
Wine guy needs a manicure.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 04:51 PM (13CQC)

85 I seem to recall that you're in Michigan, right? Wondering if you've had a chance to try the Burmese restaurant in Lansing on South Cedar, and if so, what your (and her) impression of it might be.

Sorry, really wish I had. I was born and raised in Fremont, but I've been out New Mexico way for the last 14 years. If I get lucky and we visit my aunt in Mason sometime, that might be a possibility...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 04:52 PM (7s3Gx)

86 Guess what??? I won a copy of The Deplorable Gourmet last night in the MiMoMe drawing while noshing on some great food.
It is even signed by Weasel and Bluebell and I shall hug it and squeeze it and call it George. Ok, kidding aside, cannot wait to try some of the recipes! Thanks, Horde!

Posted by: SnailRacer at September 22, 2019 04:55 PM (spsKH)

87 madamemayhem - I guess it's just that I don't have a spot to keep my sewing machine up at all times and it seems like such an ordeal to drag it out for napkin making. We are savages and just use our dish towels as napkins.

Laughs about the quilt. I have one I started 20 years ago, made out of old denim jeans. I did not realize how heavy a king size denim quilt would be. I may have to just let it become 2 smaller quilts.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:55 PM (RfzVr)

88 Just finished putting some chicken thighs in brine for tomorrow. Got a family value pack (12) last week for .99/lb.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:55 PM (gzG43)

89 Still looking for a good way to cook fish caught while backpacking. Have to assume a fire ban could be in place - so campfire/tinfoil/grill are out. At best you have a gas stove.

Fresh water fish are out for cerviche.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 04:56 PM (B7KlG)

90 Busy week in my kitchen. But, I coast for a while now.

This week I made Fillet of Sole Thermidor with sherry. Rich with cheese, just some broccoli on the side to balance out the fatty fat.

Mid-week I Oven-Baked (Oh, the horrors of not using the grill!) two racks of Pork Back Ribs with a nice Cream Sherry and Balsamic Vinegar basting sauce/glaze. The rub was Hungarian sweet paprika, dry mustard, coriander, granulated garlic, cumin and salt and pepper. The basting sauce was a mix of cream sherry, balsamic vinegar, hot-pepper sauce (Tabasco) and salt. The ribs were so fall off the bone tender (they were basically just steamed in a very small amount of water - not submerged and braised in liquid, in a tight foil encasement). The glaze was added last (cover off) and the ribs came out with a thick crusty bark that was out of this world. Really good. It was different than most of my baby back rib recipes or plain old bbq sauce. This will be one of my go-to's, especially if in the mood for ribs in the dead of winter.

I served a Waldorf Salad on some red and green butter lettuce with the ribs. The Waldorf Salad is one of those perfect salads full of good food that is so easy to make. And it goes with so much.

Friday I roasted two whole chickens for the weekend. Saturday I made some slaw to go with the chicken. The basic creamy kind with sour cream and mayo, a bit of sugar, apple cider vinegar, etc. Red and green cabbage, carrots,...

This morning I made a seafood soup for lunches using various Cioppino Stew and soup recipes for ideas. I wanted to use up some seafood stock and clam juice I had in the house. I ended up using mussels, shrimp and scallops for seafood. Fresh oregano and thyme from my garden. Onions, lots of garlic, tomatoes, red pepper flakes, bay leaves. Instead of red or white wine and/or fennel, fennel seeds or celery, I tossed in some Vermouth and Pernod to add depth. About a half of cup each. Then I tossed in a cup of the Mott's Vegetable Cocktail juice for the heck of it. Delicious.

I wasn't paying attention to my green bell pepper plants out in my garden and one branch broke due to the weight of 3 peppers on it. I quickly picked them, and will need to use them this week.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 04:57 PM (vEIlU)

91 What's so unhealthy about smoked meats?"

Are you kidding? Keeping them lit is hard enough, much less holding them to your lips...

/

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 04:57 PM (6qErC)

92 Going 100% hillbilly roots tonight, making pinto beans with salt pork in the crack pot with corn bread on the side.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 22, 2019 04:57 PM (JUOKG)

93 Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 04:55 PM (RfzVr)

Understandable. Had the same problem until the boy spawn moved out. Now using his room as sewing room and guest room. He is the only person who ever sleeps in there.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:59 PM (myjNJ)

94 *waves to SnailRacer*

Hello! Very nice meeting you and Mr. SnailRacer, glad you guys were able to stop by. Safe travels!

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 04:59 PM (t+qrx)

95 [long list of really tasty stuff]

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 04:57 PM (vEIlU)

Insert GIF of Homer Simpson saying, "ooohhhhaagghgh, pork chops..."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:00 PM (7s3Gx)

96 Are you kidding? Keeping them lit is hard enough, much less holding them to your lips...

Lol, I knew it was coming.

Posted by: dartist at September 22, 2019 05:00 PM (K22Va)

97
88 Just finished putting some chicken thighs in brine for tomorrow. Got a family value pack (12) last week for .99/lb.
Posted by: olddog

A place near me does pickle brine fried chicken - awesome.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 05:00 PM (B7KlG)

98
I tried the Franklin BBQ guy's method for cooking pork ribs.

It worked out great. Delish, as it were.

I'll probably use that in the future.

His method wasn't all that different from mine.

He cooks ribs at 275F as do I.

And his go to rub is salt and black pepper. I used that and it was great. I actually liked that better than most of the rubs I use.

The big difference was that he rests his ribs after cooking for a long time. So, this time I let my ribs rest for 1.5 hours after I pulled them out of the grill.

It made a YUGE difference. My plan is to do this in the future whenever possible.

He'll wrap his ribs but I really don't like steaming BBQ'd meats. Your methodology should be good enough to hit the perfect cook or near the perfect cook each time.

He agrees with me that "Fall off the bone" "tender" is way way overcooked. If you do that, buy some new dentures grandpa!

Next, I'll try his brisket recipe.


Here's a great cocktail to go with BBQ:


THYME IN A BOTTLE
1 oz gin (Roku gin is nice in this)
.75 oz THYM liqueur
.75 oz lemon juice
.5 oz maraschino liqueur

Shake over ice, strain into a chilled cocktail glass, and garnish with a sprig of fresh thyme.


I don't remember where I got this recipe.

But, a great cocktail. Very light and refreshing with a nice herbal background that goes well with grilled meat or fish and also BBQ.

Give it a whirl!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 22, 2019 05:01 PM (pqyXj)

99 Jean, do they really use pickle juice in the brine or just vinegar and say it's "pickled"?

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:03 PM (gzG43)

100 artisanal 'ette - thanks for jogging my mind about Waldorf salad. Haven't had it in ages and it needs to go back in my rotation.

The ribs sound very good.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 05:03 PM (RfzVr)

101 Made these banana pancakes for breakfast this morning - yummy!

https://tinyurl.com/y8npx3ss
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:15 PM (bDqIh)


These do look good. I notice she mentioned that she adapted the recipe from a Williams-Sonoma children's cookbook. I was thinking about all of the WS cookbooks I have. They never fail me and I use many of them so often. Some of their recipes have become "tradition" in my house.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:05 PM (vEIlU)

102 I hope grammie's in the kitchen cooking up some corn flakes or something. Cards just took the lead from Cubs top of the ninth.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:06 PM (gzG43)

103 The ribs sound very good.





Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 05:03 PM

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I picked up a three pack of St. Louis style ribs at Costco today. They will go on the smoker this week and the wife and I will go full carnivore on them, nothing but ribs for dinner and we don't even use plates.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 22, 2019 05:08 PM (JUOKG)

104 Bacon must be the Jesuses of food.
Please don't be mad at me Jesus.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 05:08 PM (9PtLS)

105 I have a Culvers less than a mile away so I don't need hamburger recipes.

Posted by: DaveA at September 22, 2019 05:08 PM (FhXTo)

106 Nott food but related. .
I'm in the process of making some new cloth napkins. Got the fabric cut into 15 inch squares an just have to run them thru the sewing machine.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:28 PM (myjNJ)


fun stuff
I love cloth napkins and have a nice collection for matching various place settings.

Take pictures and send them to CBD when you're done!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:08 PM (vEIlU)

107 Hey everybody.

I just got a spring pan. I wanna make cheesecake with it, but I'd also like to try making some deep-dish pizza with it. Any recipe ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (L2ZTs)

108 Cured pig cheeks count?

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (eaw6P)

109 Ha! My napkins don't match anything. Not even each other. Maybe two match but I use leftover fabric from my sister in law or odd bits I pick up cheap. Solid color on one side, pattern on the other. 14 inch square finished.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 05:13 PM (myjNJ)

110 I need a wench.
Can I be a man-thing wench and what would be the proper noun?
Wench my thirst.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 05:13 PM (9PtLS)

111 I wanna make cheesecake with it,

Patty's Cheesecake Tip:
To remove cheesecake from the bottom layer of a springform pan, run a taut width of dental floss between the crust and the pan.

Less crumbly than separating it with a knife ...

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 05:13 PM (LPnfS)

112 Humphrey, legend has it that Jesus was gonna recommend all the same dietary restrictions for Christians as for Jews, UNTIL he got to try some bacon... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:14 PM (L2ZTs)

113 mostly on smoking meats

What's so unhealthy about smoked meats, the salt?
Posted by: dartist at September 22, 2019 04:49 PM (K22Va)


I think it is the residue or whatever chemicals it bleeds into the meat.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:14 PM (vEIlU)

114 Adriane, thanks.
Helps make it minty too! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:14 PM (L2ZTs)

115 CBD - Do you ever get your cholesterol checked? Stress test?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 05:15 PM (438dO)

116
O/T

I'm reminded why my usual habit is to be at the laundromat before 0600

thatisall

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 05:15 PM (or3YC)

117 Ammo alert

Two different Wally Worlds.

50rd Federal 9mm brass are $7.97 instead of $9.97

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 05:15 PM (mNB+f)

118 >>>Gordon Ramsay on "Hot Ones" which is a hoot!

It really is hilarious.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 05:15 PM (yDjHx)

119 The Great White Scotsman - please let me know what time to be there and what libation you would like me to bring.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 05:16 PM (RfzVr)

120 Wondering if you've had a chance to try the Burmese restaurant in Lansing on South Cedar, and if so, what your (and her) impression of it might be.

A further followup to the topic: I mentioned it to my wife and she said most of the Burmese restaurants tend to be opened by Burmese from the north of the country and tend to be almost Thai in nature. If you want to try your own hand at a more southern source, this cookbook fits the bill:

Flavors of Burma: Myanmar: etc., etc. by Susan Chan

https://tinyurl.com/flavorsofburma

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:16 PM (7s3Gx)

121 Found this quick link

What Are the Dangers of Eating Smoked Meat?
https://tinyurl.com/y6e4da3j

Dunno, I just did what I was told.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:16 PM (vEIlU)

122 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:28 PM (myjNJ)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:08 PM (vEIlU)


The only thing I can make with a swing machine is making sure papers don't blow away. But I look at the quilts online & in books and dream ...

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 05:16 PM (LPnfS)

123 My wife was disgusted, and refused to eat the spectacular Cauliflower à la Bluebell that I made with six-month old milk and heels of old cheese, from which I trimmed the mold and desiccated bits.

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Excellent judgment on her part.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 05:16 PM (EZebt)

124 >>These do look good. I notice she mentioned that she adapted the recipe from a Williams-Sonoma children's cookbook. I was thinking about all of the WS cookbooks I have. They never fail me and I use many of them so often. Some of their recipes have become "tradition" in my house.

Also: the author was Abbigail Johnson Dodge, who I discovered when she was contributing to Fine Cooking. I have her two books - The Weekend Baker and The Everyday Baker (just got it) - and her recipes are great. Favorites include Butterscotch Congo Bars, Carrot Cake, Cheddar-Cayenne Coins.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 05:18 PM (bDqIh)

125 Going 100% hillbilly roots tonight, making pinto beans with salt pork in the crack pot with corn bread on the side.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 22, 2019 04:57 PM (JUOKG)


oh man, this sounds delicious, really.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:18 PM (vEIlU)

126 **TOP FIVE DANGERS OF EATING SMOKED MEATS**

5. When you eat smoked meat, there's less for everyone else, and that can get you in trouble

4. If instead of being smoked IN a smoker, it was smoked BY a heavy smoker, such as Nina Blackwood

3. You'll make Al Gore real mad!!

2. You'll want more smoked meat, and then more smoked meat, and then more, and then more...

1. You might die of deliciousness

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:18 PM (L2ZTs)

127 And as soon as I just posted, she looked up the restaurant and said, "Oh yeah, that's classic regular Burmese. Especially the pickled tea-leaf salad."

So, give it a go, or the cookbook or both.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:18 PM (7s3Gx)

128 qdpsteve
You are a funny motherfuuker as somebody said in some movie.
Sorry mom, sorry Jesus.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 05:19 PM (9PtLS)

129 Humphrey, just sharing my God-given gifts :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:20 PM (L2ZTs)

130 I might give some version of it a shot, although i am reminded of what a foodie friend said to me when I mentioned that i was going to adulterate a burger with some innocuous ingredient (chopped onion I think).

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The one time my MiL seriously yelled at me was when I put onion in her hamburger.

Apparently that crossed some kind of red line.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 05:21 PM (EZebt)

131 I just got a spring pan. I wanna make cheesecake with it..... Any recipe ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM

From 9-8-19 Food Thread, courtesy CBD.
Lemon Cheesecake

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/Lemon%20Cheesecake.pdf

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:21 PM (gzG43)

132 olddog, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:22 PM (L2ZTs)

133 A further followup to the topic: I mentioned it to my wife and she said most of the Burmese restaurants tend to be opened by Burmese from the north of the country and tend to be almost Thai in nature. If you want to try your own hand at a more southern source, this cookbook fits the bill:

Flavors of Burma: Myanmar: etc., etc. by Susan Chan

https://tinyurl.com/flavorsofburma
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:16 PM (7s3Gx)


Thanks. This place calls itself 'Myanmar' in the name, but I don't know if that indicates anything about the food. My impression was that the recipes were very Thai-like, especially the ingredients and preparations, but that the spices were more 'warm' than hot. Less chili, more mace and cardamom (or something that tasted like them, anyway).

https://tinyurl.com/yx8rkub5

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 05:22 PM (t+qrx)

134 artisanal 'ette - thanks for jogging my mind about Waldorf salad. Haven't had it in ages and it needs to go back in my rotation.

The ribs sound very good.
Posted by: cfo mom at September 22, 2019 05:03 PM (RfzVr)


That happened to me with the Waldorf Salad, but now when I buy apples, I always buy a couple for that salad. It jogs my memory.

The ribs recipe was from the Williams-Sonoma Essentials of Roasting cookbook. There are many balsamic based glazes, but the cream sherry was a new one for me. It was very good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:22 PM (vEIlU)

135 And as soon as I just posted, she looked up the restaurant and said, "Oh yeah, that's classic regular Burmese. Especially the pickled tea-leaf salad."
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:18 PM (7s3Gx)


That's one of the dishes we tried (on the hostess' recommendation) when my parents visited a few weeks ago, and it was very good. I think the other was a chicken green curry and... well it had noodles. It was all good, anyhow. Thank you for the cookbook recommendation.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 05:24 PM (t+qrx)

136 ?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 05:25 PM (438dO)

137 PORK BELLY!!!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 05:25 PM (G546f)

138 thought I was locked up there for a minute..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 05:25 PM (438dO)

139 We seem to be in tune with the food thread today.

Milady suggested BLTs for lunch.

I hinted at grilled cheese with onion and bacon. Which we had.

Most excellent.

The Got No Bacon Song
Mar 2013 (0:45)
(nic link)

Posted by: mindful webworker - barely here, but here, at September 22, 2019 05:26 PM (GWm7j)

140 Also: the author was Abbigail Johnson Dodge, who I discovered when she was contributing to Fine Cooking. I have her two books - The Weekend Baker and The Everyday Baker (just got it) - and her recipes are great. Favorites include Butterscotch Congo Bars, Carrot Cake, Cheddar-Cayenne Coins.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 05:18 PM (bDqIh)


Thanks! I'm going to add them to my Wishlist.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:26 PM (vEIlU)

141 There's a restaurant not far from me called Delius, that recently closed forever :-(

They were famous for their pork belly appetizer.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

142
The one time my MiL seriously yelled at me was when I put onion in her hamburger.

Apparently that crossed some kind of red line.
Posted by: San Franpsycho


Red onions?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 05:28 PM (aKsyK)

143 >> I just got a spring pan. I wanna make cheesecake with it..... Any recipe ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance...



Some inspiration:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y23mn9dt

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 05:28 PM (bDqIh)

144 >>I just got a spring pan. I wanna make cheesecake with it, but I'd also like to try making some deep-dish pizza with it. Any recipe ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (L2ZTs)

I've used some of her other recipes and they've worked well. Here is her deep dish pizza recipe.
https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/how-to-make-chicago-style

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 05:29 PM (AQjWg)

145 Had a 'hot brown' last weekend....asked for extra bacon as it was thin...

Damn good!

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 05:29 PM (eaw6P)

146

Nog, nephew of Quark, is mort.

Nog will be meeting the Blessed Exchequer and living at the Divine Treasury.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 22, 2019 05:29 PM (QiKpK)

147 Going 100% hillbilly roots tonight, making pinto beans with salt pork in the crack pot with corn bread on the side.

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That's one of my favorite meals, although I think I prefer navy (northern?) beans. The white beans seem to go better with the amount of Tabasco sauce I dump onto the whole thing once I'm at the table.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 05:30 PM (9nhoD)

148 >>Thanks! I'm going to add them to my Wishlist.

Oh fun!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 05:30 PM (bDqIh)

149 Thanks. This place calls itself 'Myanmar' in the name,

Yep. The ruling military junta changed Burma's name back to the pre-colonial Myanmar. But quite a few folks, even the current state counselor, Aung San Suu Kyi, use Burma interchangeably.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:30 PM (7s3Gx)

150 I've been around the world twice. (No big deal...anybody can do it. )
Truly you guys inspire to do it again.
I am going to become an international bacon smuggler.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 05:30 PM (9PtLS)

151 My life, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:30 PM (L2ZTs)

152 Yep. The ruling military junta changed Burma's name back to the pre-colonial Myanmar. But quite a few folks, even the current state counselor, Aung San Suu Kyi, use Burma interchangeably.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:30 PM (7s3Gx)


The (admittedly few) Burmese I know call themselves Burmese, but I've heard both used and it doesn't always seem to correlate to their opinion on the government. So I just figured I can't assume anything from that.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 05:33 PM (t+qrx)

153 Made these banana pancakes for breakfast this morning - yummy! 

https://tinyurl.com/y8npx3ss 
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:15 PM (bDqIh) 

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I like makin' banana pancakes.

Posted by: Jack Johnson at September 22, 2019 05:34 PM (flINI)

154 The beauty of the weekend food thread is that EVERY comment can be interpreted as a double entendre... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:35 PM (L2ZTs)

155 A bunch of Springform pan recipes

17 Recipes to Make Use of Your Springform Pan (Not Just Cheesecake!)
bon appetit
https://tinyurl.com/y25waxkw


12 Savory Foods To Make in a Springform Pan
Taste of Home
https://tinyurl.com/y5v6dxvf

another Taste of Home, but sweets
61 Desserts Made in a Springform Pan
https://tinyurl.com/yy2nwvcw

And from Better Homes & Gardens,
these look pretty good too
Recipes to Make in a Springform Pan
https://tinyurl.com/y39nh9nh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:35 PM (vEIlU)

156
Red onions?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 05:28 PM (aKsyK)

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No, we were in Sonoma so they were sweet white onion, I didnt grate, I diced. But She eats them rare to raw so the onion wasnt cooked enough.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 05:35 PM (EZebt)

157 artisanal, thanks!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:35 PM (L2ZTs)

158 Had a 'hot brown' last weekend....asked for extra bacon as it was thin...

Damn good!
Posted by: LoneRanger

Oh, one of my favs. I always make it on Derby Day. Another fav is monte cristo.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:36 PM (BLFnH)

159 I bought some porkchops to pop in the smoker when I get home.

I also bought some popcorn, which has no connection with the pork, unless someone has a great pork and popcorn recipe.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 22, 2019 05:36 PM (n1yOz)

160 One Night in Rangoon was on the B-side of One Night in Bangkok...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 05:37 PM (mNB+f)

161

There's a Savory BLT Cheesecake in that Taste of Home link, oh my. How apropos.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:37 PM (vEIlU)

162 Anna, I remember that one.

One night in Rangoon makes the tough guys women
Can't be too careful with that butter knife...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:38 PM (L2ZTs)

163 Infidel...

There is something special about an open face sammich....

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 05:38 PM (eaw6P)

164 I just got a spring pan. I wanna make cheesecake with it, but I'd also like to try making some deep-dish pizza with it. Any recipe ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (L2ZTs)


thanks so much for bringing this up

I found some savory recipes I will try myself!

Love the Food Thread. Always such great ideas.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:39 PM (vEIlU)

165 Someday someone will invent pizza topped with crab and bacon, and become very very wealthy.*

(*Hopefully this person will be me)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:39 PM (L2ZTs)

166 artisanal, no problemo

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:39 PM (L2ZTs)

167 It's not a pizza w/out Canadian bacon and caramelized pineapple.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 05:41 PM (tyEy7)

168 A local restaurant offered a special of St. Louis ribs this weekend.

The ribs seemed like they had been dredged in something familiar (with a flour base). Maybe pancake mix? Couldn't tell for sure, but it was tasty. They were also sauced.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 05:41 PM (i/wJA)

169
Thanks. This place calls itself 'Myanmar' in the name, but I don't know if that indicates anything about the food.

Myanmar Shave sounds dumb.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 05:42 PM (7rVsF)

170 Not pork exactly, though Bacon grease is often used in lieu of shortening or oil to pop corn in the pan.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 22, 2019 05:43 PM (PF3Gg)

171 About the hot tong wine opening. A friend has described a means whereby the neck is scored with a small triangular file, a bit of alcohol-soaked string wrapped about it and lit. Tink.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 05:43 PM (xSo9G)

172 I used to go occasionally, and I would bring back bottles of mezcal that I would buy from mom-and-pop stores.


A million years ago I was on the small island of Yelapa. After a hike up a hill to a waterfall there was a cafe. I asked if they had a local variety of tequila. They said "oh yes, raicia" (phon.).

It was more like a drug experience than a tequila. It was amazing. I said I had to bring some home and hang on to it until I could hook up with a college friend who was particularly degenerate. I got a bottle of clear liquid with no label and smuggled it home and waited until I could get to Atlanta.

That took six months. At this point it tasted like kerosene. Biggest diappointment evah.

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Posted by: alfreeds siang at September 22, 2019 05:44 PM (eZOBY)

174 one of those springform recipes, more bacon

Bread Pudding Quiche with Berries and Bacon

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2019 05:44 PM (vEIlU)

175 BurmaQ

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 05:44 PM (tyEy7)

176 The beauty of the weekend food thread is that EVERY comment can be interpreted as a double entendre... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 05:35 PM (L2ZTs)

********

I haven't had my meat smoked in quite some time.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 22, 2019 05:45 PM (flINI)

177 Bring back the Lace Wig Machines for Sale

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 05:46 PM (mNB+f)

178 Bacon is actually kind of tricky on burgers. I like the concept, the idea of thick bacon, in principle, but thin bacon crisps up better. At all hazards, the bacon on a burger must not be chewy, or stringy, or limp. It is crucial that it is heavily smoked with Hickory goodness, and many thin strips preferable to thick slices. Consequently it must be added at the last minute, or near enough.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 22, 2019 05:47 PM (PF3Gg)

179 The beauty of the weekend food thread is that EVERY comment can be interpreted as a double entendre... ;-)

And then there's Alfreeds Siang. Lace wigs, big wangers, no shortage of goods available these days.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 05:47 PM (7s3Gx)

180 As Alfreeds comment indicates.....there is always someone to violate the food thread.

Posted by: Cristobal at September 22, 2019 05:47 PM (eaw6P)

181 We definitely are in a strange watershed moment when Downton Abbey opens to twice the box office of a Sylvester Stallone and Brad Pitt film.


Also I don't think anything can ruin bacon.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 05:47 PM (jknEL)

182 Forgot to send in my stromboli pictures
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 04:02 PM (ZCEU2)



You went on vacation? Did you get to Sicily too?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 05:48 PM (xG/b0)

183 The beauty of the weekend food thread is that EVERY comment can be interpreted as a double entendre... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve
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It is only a question of time until 'spring pan' becomes an urban dictionary entry. I shan't speculate on it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 05:48 PM (xSo9G)

184 Well would ya look at the penis on Alfreeds...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 22, 2019 05:48 PM (flINI)

185 >>Bread Pudding Quiche with Berries and Bacon

That's a lot of stuff goin' on in one pan, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 05:48 PM (bDqIh)

186 Well would ya look at the penis on Alfreeds...
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 22, 2019 05:48 PM (flINI)


I wonder who enlarged it for him/her?

I guess it will always be a mystery, like what seasons are, or how a cow works.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 05:49 PM (t+qrx)

187 A local restaurant offered a special of St. Louis ribs this weekend.



The ribs seemed like they had been dredged in something familiar
(with a flour base). Maybe pancake mix? Couldn't tell for sure, but it
was tasty. They were also sauced.





Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 05:41 PM

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I just put rub on mine smoke them at 225 for three hours, wrap them with some Sweet Baby Rays for another two hours and then pull them out for a final hour in the smoker.

I am thinking about brining them the next time to see if that makes a big difference.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 22, 2019 05:49 PM (JUOKG)

188 I made a mozzarella ball salad yesterday to marinate and put a flank steak marinating in the fridge yesterday. Should be ready to go on Tues. Tonight is stroganoff. I had forgotten I froze some prior to adding sour creme. Just need to reheat and add sour creme and boil some noodles.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:50 PM (BLFnH)

189 Will Tin Lizzie put in her next cookbook a recipe for Rangoon crab cakes?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 05:50 PM (mNB+f)

190 185 >>Bread Pudding Quiche with Berries and Bacon

That's a lot of stuff goin' on in one pan, huh?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 05:48 PM (bDqIh)

yum

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 05:52 PM (yDjHx)

191 I gain five pounds just from reading the thread and comments. Nom nom nom

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 05:53 PM (mNB+f)

192 I made a mozzarella ball salad yesterday to marinate
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:50 PM (BLFnH)


Lemme know if you want some basil to do a caprese with that, I've got a basil plant that thinks it's a zucchini or something. It won't stop producing.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 05:54 PM (t+qrx)

193 Hogmartin...you are blessed

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 05:56 PM (eaw6P)

194 I'd love some hogmartin. My basil plant died early. It was a lousy growing year here. I also chopped up some salami, black olives, sliced red onion and added cherry tomatoes. I usually top with fresh grated parm before serving. I think next time I may add artichoke hearts. The marinade is just simple Italian dressing I mix from an envelope.

Flank steak marinating in teriyaki and garlic. That will go under the broiler.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:57 PM (BLFnH)

195 Brisket, smoked over pecan, foiled with some apple juice for the last 1/3 of the cook, taken to 207º for succulent tenderness. Several sides, including jalapeño corn muffins. Blueberry cobbler w/Bluebell vanilla ice cream. Cold Shiner Bocks.

If you'd like a little slice of Texas heaven, c'mon over.

No Brussels Sprouts or kale were harmed in the making of this.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 05:58 PM (DMUuz)

196 I've been drinking a stupid amount of beer of late.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 22, 2019 05:58 PM (n1yOz)

197 I just browned my meat. Wife's got a hankerin' for taco salad.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:58 PM (gzG43)

198 There is something special about an open face sammich....
Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 05:38 PM (eaw6P)

===

Tommy's Joynt on Geary and Van Ness. Best hot open turkey in the world with stuffing, mashed, and gravy. I think it was on Guy Fieri

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 05:58 PM (EZebt)

199 Seems there's a cry for help near the end of the book thread.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 05:58 PM (cknjq)

200 Hogmartin...you are blessed
Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 05:56 PM (eaw6P)


I'm trying to honor its effort by eating as much fresh basil as possible at every opportunity.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 05:59 PM (t+qrx)

201 olddog, sounds like she is feeling better.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:59 PM (BLFnH)

202 We definitely are in a strange watershed moment when Downton Abbey opens to twice the box office of a Sylvester Stallone and Brad Pitt film.


Also I don't think anything can ruin bacon.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin
--------

Remain calm, and ring Carson for bacon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 06:00 PM (CDGwz)

203 It's not a pizza w/out Canadian bacon and caramelized pineapple.
Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 05:41 PM (tyEy7)

*points at heretic!*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 06:00 PM (EZebt)

204 I'm in the process of making some new cloth napkins.
Got the fabric cut into 15 inch squares an just have to run them thru
the sewing machine.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 04:28 PM (myjNJ)


I make handkerchiefs out of my old worn out pillow cases.

Granted, I make pillowcases out of my old, worn out sheets.

I drew the line and splitting worn sheets in half and sewing the outside edges together like in the Little House on the Prairie books.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 06:00 PM (xG/b0)

205 I've been drinking a stupid amount of beer of late.


I understand how that's stupid. Distilled spirits get the job done more efficiently and with fewer carbs.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 06:01 PM (FNXDu)

206 Jean, do they really use pickle juice in the brine or just vinegar and say it's "pickled"?
Posted by: olddog

They claim pickle juice from kosher fill barrels, you can smell pickles when it gets halfway across the room.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 06:02 PM (B1TZ/)

207 Beer O'Clock, time to cook dinner.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 22, 2019 06:03 PM (7s3Gx)

208 204...

I make handkerchiefs out of my old worn out pillow cases.

Granted, I make pillowcases out of my old, worn out sheets.
...
Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 06:00 PM (xG/b0)


I make arm covers out of old blue jeans.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 06:04 PM (tyEy7)

209 Kindltot! I use old sheets, pillow cases, scraps from my SiL the quilter, odd bits I pick up at flea markets, and even stuff from the goodwill store. If I can cut a 15 inch square out of it, I use it.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 06:05 PM (myjNJ)

210 173
Another bacon miracle.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 06:05 PM (9PtLS)

211 olddog, sounds like she is feeling better.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:59

Better than last nite for sure. Thought I was going to have to take her to ER. Fever. This morning no fever. Got her into shower around noon. That made her very happy.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 06:07 PM (gzG43)

212 Crab bomb recipe:

http://familyrecipecentral.com/recipe/crab-bomb

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 06:08 PM (B1TZ/)

213 I just made 2 dozen bacon wrapped shrimp... got on the food thread and BAM!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at September 22, 2019 06:10 PM (UUBmN)

214 Glad your lady is feeling better olddog! Hopefully you got in the shower with her. Always makes me happy when hubbymayhem climbs in with me!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 06:10 PM (myjNJ)

215 Now I am eating the bacon wrapped shrimp... it's keto!

Posted by: lin-duh at September 22, 2019 06:11 PM (UUBmN)

216 The thighs are massaged with special ingredients until they are simmering in her own juices.
Then plundering...
Oh.... I'm sorry...thought this was the Smart Military Blog.
Never mind.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 06:12 PM (9PtLS)

217 My ribs about done...then one neighbor comes by and has collards...w/bacon...very good

Another neieghbor makes german tater salad......w bacon

I think i have my bacon quocient fulfilled for this day.

Thank the Lord i am not of Islam faith.

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 06:13 PM (eaw6P)

218 I think it was two food threads ago, but someone mentioned making blueberry liqueur. It's been on my mind ever since.
Accordingly, I bought a jug of Valu-Right potato squeezings, blueberries and some mason jars.
I introduced all the ingredients, added sugar, shook and placed in the closet today.
In such an inspiring moment, I ground up some Dunkin Donuts beans powdery fine, added sugar and said Valu-Right, shook, then placed next to the first bottle.
Remind me to report around Thanksgiving.

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 06:14 PM (tDzWD)

219 Madammayehem, you might try simmering your finished napkins in a solution of washing soda and water to get the old oil and sizing out of the cloth. (maybe not the silk)

Some cloth has a fatty feel to it because of where it came from. It made a difference in some of the projects I've done, like the tea towels I made out of muslin, and my dough raising cloths that I got flour and oil worked into It makes them more absorbent.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 06:15 PM (xG/b0)

220 *burp*
I'm good now...I ate about 1/2 of the shrimp. The rest are for lunch tomorrow.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 22, 2019 06:17 PM (UUBmN)

221 Tempted to run out tomorrow a get thick cut black peppered bacon to wrap my chicken thighs. In honor of the Cardinals making the playoffs today w/ their 4 game sweep of the Cubs.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 06:18 PM (gzG43)

222 Hopefully you got in the shower with her. Always makes me happy when hubbymayhem climbs in with me!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 06:10

Heh. Not at first. However, the Lord must have wanted me to or she pulled the faucet handle off on purpose. Much hilarity ensued.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 06:21 PM (gzG43)

223 I'm not sure what to do with the leftover Valu-Rite, though. I do have to remove some paint from furniture.

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 06:22 PM (tDzWD)

224 Ugh. Where did the weekend go?

FWIW: 200 messages in, and I realized after reading the book thread I wanted to say this, but the thread's dead...

I'm very late reading the Book Thread... every time the Fourth Crusade comes up, though, I feel like repeating that I was a lot more sympathetic to the pro-Byzantine point of view before I found out the Venetians and other Latins successfully laid siege to Constantinople _twice_ but only sacked it the second time. I guess I should go find an active thread to say it in...

In my defense, I was too busy listening to more bits and pieces of Leo Marks' _Between Silk and Cyanide_.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had a B-Wing, and Called It Brad at September 22, 2019 06:24 PM (Clxcy)

225 If ever vacationing in the Phillipines with Christina Hendricks, try their famous "Bacon, balut, and wine". Throw out the egg, eat the bacon, and let Christina drink the whole bottle.

Posted by: Sir Folderol of Redhose at September 22, 2019 06:24 PM (QU9HF)

226 once upon a time I got gifted a pint of everclear and eventually I used it as fuel in an alcohol stove.
It burned very clean

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 06:24 PM (xG/b0)

227 Everyone behaving?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (zbmAU)

228 I'm acting out, CBD. Can't you tell?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (xG/b0)

229 Am I the only one who knows of
The Smart Military Blog?
Has the World gone mad?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 06:28 PM (9PtLS)

230 I would like to make creme puffs tonight, but too many other things to do. I like the custard version from my old Betty Crocker cookbook. Easy, but time consuming.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:28 PM (BLFnH)

231 Cure and smoke your own bacon if you want it done right. That way you can control the salt to sugar ratio and the slice thickness.

Posted by: MickyD at September 22, 2019 06:28 PM (MqUsV)

232 Everyone behaving?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (zbmAU)


*removes elbows from table*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 06:30 PM (t+qrx)

233 This has been a hilarious thread with many mouth-watering recipes. I've decided I want to move into the basement of everyone who posted one. If you're a guy, just tell your wife that I'm scheming to make you rich. If you're a gal, tell your husband I'm homeless because of an evil Democrat and need a fresh start.

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 06:30 PM (QE8X6)

234
Everyone behaving?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM


I'm shakin' the bush, Boss

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 06:32 PM (prqrF)

235 Ziva's going to reappear on NCIS.
NCIS left me years ago when they took that hard left warrior turn.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 06:32 PM (tyEy7)

236 I think it was two food threads ago, but someone mentioned making blueberry liqueur. It's been on my mind ever since.
Accordingly, I bought a jug of Valu-Right potato squeezings, blueberries and some mason jars.
I introduced all the ingredients, added sugar, shook and placed in the closet today.
In such an inspiring moment, I ground up some Dunkin Donuts beans powdery fine, added sugar and said Valu-Right, shook, then placed next to the first bottle.
Remind me to report around Thanksgiving.
Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 06:14 PM

I carry a backup bottle of stove fuel (aka everclear), to combine with smashed up berries in a Ziploc when hiking. Never lasts more than 2 hours.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2019 06:32 PM (B1TZ/)

237 Micky D

True..........

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 06:32 PM (eaw6P)

238 227 Everyone behaving?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (zbmAU)

Define "behaving."

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:32 PM (NWiLs)

239 hahahaha. OT, PG&E may cut power Tues. due to fire danger in the Sierra Mtns.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:32 PM (BLFnH)

240 Bacon wrapped shrimp is good. Had bacon wrapped scallops awhile back and they were divine. However, I get scallops so rarely I almost prefer them nekkid.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 06:33 PM (gzG43)

241 I'm not sure what it means when a guy called Charlie Brown's Dildo asks "Everyone behaving?"

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 06:34 PM (QE8X6)

242 Posted by: alfreeds siang at September 22, 2019 05:44 PM

Weeeellll...check out the big penis on alfreeds!

Posted by: Jules Winfield at September 22, 2019 06:34 PM (rBtIz)

243 232
Which kind of knife did you use to remove the elbow?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 06:34 PM (9PtLS)

244 Ziva is a smokeshow.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2019 06:34 PM (nDe2U)

245 244 Ziva is a smokeshow.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2019 06:34 PM (nDe2U)

Cryptic.

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 06:36 PM (QE8X6)

246 San Franpsycho, I was about to do the same thing! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:36 PM (L2ZTs)

247 I've used sour milk for my pancakes. Adding a bit of vinegar to good milk produces a similar texture to the finished product, so I do that now.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 22, 2019 06:39 PM (5WpEK)

248 THYME IN A BOTTLE

1 oz gin (Roku gin is nice in this)

.75 oz THYM liqueur

.75 oz lemon juice

.5 oz maraschino liqueur



Shake over ice, strain into a chilled cocktail glass, and garnish with a sprig of fresh thyme.





I don't remember where I got this recipe.



But, a great cocktail. Very light and refreshing with a nice herbal
background that goes well with grilled meat or fish and also BBQ.



Give it a whirl!





Posted by: naturalfake at September 22, 2019 05:01 PM


Go to the youtube channel You Deserve a Drink and look for the Thyme's Up. When you get past the awful puns, the result is a really refreshing summer cocktail. My club recently started offering something like it made with Hendricks gin. Give it a try!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2019 06:39 PM (rBtIz)

249 Fuuk TV.
You guys and wenches are great.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 06:39 PM (9PtLS)

250 Anything with gin in it has been ruined.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:40 PM (NWiLs)

251 never made them but thought I might take a stab at Coquilles St Jacques

anyone had and are they worth the effort

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2019 06:40 PM (AQBtr)

252 250 Anything with gin in it has been ruined.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:40 PM (NWiLs)

I've got quite a bit in me atm, so you might have a point

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2019 06:42 PM (AQBtr)

253 Anything with gin in it has been ruined.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:40 PM (NWiLs)


Despite my best efforts, no I haven't.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 06:42 PM (t+qrx)

254 hahahaha. OT, PG&E may cut power Tues. due to fire danger in the Sierra Mtns.

But still they maintain they're making money hand over fist with their solar cells and their windmills being cheaper than coal.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had a B-Wing, and Called It Brad at September 22, 2019 06:43 PM (Clxcy)

255
Adding a bit of vinegar to good milk produces a similar texture to the finished product, so I do that now.
Posted by: Joe Kidd


That's how mom made "sour milk" cookies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 06:44 PM (aKsyK)

256 Roku makes internet TV tuners *and* gin?!??

Talk about a diversified portfolio...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:46 PM (L2ZTs)

257 Coquilles St Jacques, never tried that.


I did try Croque Monsieur and it didn't turn out nearly as well as I had hoped.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:48 PM (BLFnH)

258 Anything with gin in it has been ruined.


The gin ampersand tonic I'm drinking says you hurt its feelings.

I think reparations are in order.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 06:48 PM (FNXDu)

259 A brother came by to watch some football with hubby and I so I made us some stuffed clams, they were delish!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 06:49 PM (a4EWo)

260 I admit I'm not the most sophisticated drinker.

Still, this cherry cordial-flavored milk I got from Ralphs is quite tasty. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:49 PM (L2ZTs)

261 I also love the blueberry protein smoothies from Odwalla. It's like drinking a blueberry muffin.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:50 PM (L2ZTs)

262 Coquille St Jacques...
Make sure your scallop is 'pristine' fresh.


Andto address another topic....gin is a great preservative.....learn to use it!

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 06:51 PM (eaw6P)

263 >250 Anything with gin in it has been ruined.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:40 PM (NWiLs)



I don't feel ruined.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:51 PM (uDh3k)

264 263 >250 Anything with gin in it has been ruined.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:40 PM (NWiLs)



I don't feel ruined.
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:51 PM (uDh3k)

FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

265 bacon! I have ten pounds of pure country smoked bacon..

Non Sweet and really savory! I got it from Benton's in Tenn.

I really like their Country Ham too. Took the BMW Mid Life Crisis Car on the Dragons' Tail to get it WOOT!

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 06:52 PM (4HMlb)

266 Just noticed the thread title up there

Food Thread:

Serve it in a van der Rohe dining room with some Phillip Glass on the Braun audio 310 and you got something there.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 06:54 PM (t+qrx)

267
Everyone behaving?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (zbmAU)

*removes elbows from table*
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 06:30 PM (t+qrx)


*stops picking teeth with knife*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 06:54 PM (7rVsF)

268 >
I don't feel ruined.
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:51 PM (uDh3k)

FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:5



Nurse likes gin.



Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:55 PM (uDh3k)

269 *stops picking feet on table*

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:55 PM (L2ZTs)

270 Insom's gone full Ben Shapiro.
You NEVER go full Ben Shapiro!...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:56 PM (L2ZTs)

271 268 >
I don't feel ruined.
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:51 PM (uDh3k)

FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:5



Nurse likes gin.



Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:55 PM (uDh3k)

Whoa, flag on the play!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:56 PM (NWiLs)

272 270 Insom's gone full Ben Shapiro.
You NEVER go full Ben Shapiro!...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:56 PM (L2ZTs)

Hey now. I'm not Jewish or scrawny or rich.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:57 PM (NWiLs)

273 *stops picking nose*

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 06:57 PM (tDzWD)

274 The floral nastiness of the gin complements the subtle citrus nastiness of the tonic.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 06:57 PM (TAKp8)

275 Insom, true...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:58 PM (L2ZTs)

276 >uDh3k)

Whoa, flag on the play!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 06:56 PM



Sorry bro! I'll the 15 yards and loss of down.


Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 06:58 PM (uDh3k)

277 I love bacon and I love baked macaroni, but I am NOT a fan of putting them together. The cheese tends to overwhelm the bacon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 06:59 PM (85Gof)

278 How i wish i had a bottle....of gin...but its sunday!

Posted by: Krusty at September 22, 2019 06:59 PM (eaw6P)

279 I admit I'm not a big football fan, but whose idea was it in the game to "throw flags"?

Seems awfully French to me...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 06:59 PM (L2ZTs)

280 Today was a perfect day for golf. 70 and sunny with a 5 knot beeze. At the turn, I was craving a cold PB&J with a couple of slices of bacon...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 07:00 PM (fZrf5)

281 I think we may need a gin thread.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 07:00 PM (uDh3k)

282 The floral nastiness of the gin complements the subtle citrus nastiness of the tonic.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 06:57 PM (TAKp


Last night at the MIMoMe dinner at the Chelsea Alehouse, I had a G&T without the gin. Bitter/acid is a good flavor combination.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 07:00 PM (t+qrx)

283 It is funny how bacon is like wiskey. There are many ways, smoke levels, fat content, locations where the meat comes from, salt vs sugar cures.. All making the great stuff called Bacon. It is really cool that like Wiskey, there are very few I do not like.. But, there are really few that are completely outstanding! From Guanciale to beef bacon (Die Witch!) there are endless possibilities!

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:01 PM (4HMlb)

284 catman, but at least you can enjoy bacon with the whole family :-)

Not so much with whiskey...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2019 07:02 PM (L2ZTs)

285 I have been curing my own bacon for a while, and it is so much better than the stuff you buy in the store. I have one brining up now, and next week I'll throw it in the smoker for a change-up.

I also canned some pears last night. They weren't very ripe, but I thought I should get to them before the fruit flies find them. I'll crack open a jar next weekend for quality control.

Posted by: PabloD at September 22, 2019 07:02 PM (+bdRZ)

286 Says Who? Ha! (Redneck to the core!)

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (4HMlb)

287 Gub thread is up.

Posted by: Pete Polarek at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (C1NyB)

288 Took the BMW Mid Life Crisis Car on the Dragons' Tail to get it WOOT!

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 06:52 PM

Is it red?

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 07:03 PM (gzG43)

289 Just learned how to say 'up the middle' in Spanish.

yagada yagada upthemiddle yagada yagada yagada

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 07:04 PM (tyEy7)

290 2004 black on black 330Ci Convertible ZHP... Like I said I am one set of gold chains away from russian gagster teen..!

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:16 PM (4HMlb)

291 >>I love bacon and I love baked macaroni, but I am NOT a fan of putting them together.

Savage.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2019 07:17 PM (ZLI7S)

292 Here it is and me also! http://tinyurl.com/y32feq27

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:20 PM (4HMlb)

293 There are very low smoked Italian bacons that would be good in Mac and Cheese.. But Smoked and Mac and cheese could clash..fo sho!

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:22 PM (4HMlb)

294 try again non face chimp: https://flic.kr/p/2hjmaF1

Posted by: catman at September 22, 2019 07:31 PM (4HMlb)

295 I have no qualms about using anything hermetically sealed well past its "expiration" date. Things like meat or eggs, that spoil fairly easily, sure ... but canned, bottled, otherwise sealed away from air -- especially acidy stuff like tomatoes -- never had any problem, and don't expect to.

Posted by: Empire1 at September 22, 2019 07:55 PM (O1X6N)

296 Nice ride catman. BF has '07 335xi(?) convertible in red. Hard to get in and out of for this 29 yo.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 07:59 PM (gzG43)

297 266 Just noticed the thread title up there

Food Thread:

Serve it in a van der Rohe dining room with some Phillip Glass on the Braun audio 310 and you got something there.
Mishima title track. Toe snapping

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 07:59 PM (9PtLS)

298 Chef and Food Network personality Carl Ruiz passed away yesterday.

RIP Carl

Posted by: phreshone at September 22, 2019 08:08 PM (BDQo0)

299 Have you tried slightly crispy British back bacon on toasted and buttered bun? British people call the sandwich bacon roll. No greens or condiments on the bun although I eat it with a side of sliced tomatoes and pickled cornichons.

You could have turned the old milk into quark cheese. Just leave it another day at room temperature until it's curdled then strain in coffee filters. Add salt to taste to the thickened curds. It will be slightly sour and great with spaetzle.

Posted by: Oggi at September 22, 2019 08:18 PM (Bk5Q+)

300 And don't throw ice cream at me.
----------

Why on earth would I waste perfectly good ice cream by throwing it at you?

And thank you for the dubious honor of naming your disgusting concoction of 6-month-old milk, moldy cheese, and Satan's warts after me.

Posted by: bluebell at September 22, 2019 10:24 PM (aXucN)

301 If your milk goes bad inside of the sell-by date, odds are that somebody in your household is chugging it from the container.

As long as it hasn't gone chunky, it's perfectly good for cooking (and some might argue that even then it's OK).

Give it the sniff test, the taste test, and then decide whether it's still fine for your purpose. You love sour cream, right?

Posted by: DaveK at September 23, 2019 12:40 AM (1f6qO)

We Are Shocked To Discover That The Constitution Gives The President Authority Over Foreign Policy! Shocked!

I am sure that all of you are, like me, breathlessly waiting for the next blockbuster charge to be flung against the White House walls by the barking-mad moonbats of the media. Those charges are so often based on the sleazily leaked half-truths and disinformation leaked to them by their compatriots and handlers in the Deep State. But as Angelo Codevilla writes, the Constitution gives the president essentially all the power to conduct foreign policy, and all of the braying and whining and backstabbing in the media arsenal isn't going to change that. Shamelessness and Ignorance Unlimited

The U.S. intelligence community’s leaders, the Democratic Party, and the media (excuse the redundancy) are trying to convince Americans that President Trump’s conversation with, and perhaps promises to, an unnamed foreign leader amounts to some sort of constitutional crisis. Never mind that the Constitution vests “the executive Power” in the “President of the United States,” a power that includes “by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties . . . appoint ambassadors and other public ministers . . . ” The Constitution also says the president “shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.”

But, oh, the scandal!

Once upon a time, so goes a story made up to ridicule the voting public, an official who had been dean of a college was run out of office after his opponent accused him of having looked at female students’ theses in private, and had invited to campus traveling troops of thespians.

No doubt Trump is equally guilty of negotiating with a foreign leader in ways that involve classified information. The deep state is counting on today’s American voters to be just as ignorant.

I thought Obama was a sleazy prick who was not pursuing the best interests of the United States, but he was the president, so there wasn't much to do about that except vote him out of office. We tried and failed. My suggestion to the Democrats and the media (BIRM) is to try that tactic instead of all of the ridiculous crap you have been throwing around, hoping that some of it will stick. My anecdotal evidence suggests that most Americans, even my loony-liberal relatives don't give a shit about this kind of crap.

In fact, I think a concerted effort to improve your 2020 electoral chances might be your best bet. I suggest that all of you who hate President Trump fall in line behind a ticket of Sanders/Harris. Hell, Cap'n Kristol is probably weeks away from supporting it.

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Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2019 02:51 PM (nDe2U)

2 Thespian theses...

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3 Diplomacy in the Oval.Office! The horror...

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4 top 5

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5 I trito entice the corgis to come hither

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:58 PM (G546f)

6 Not first here - but almost made dead last on the previous thread!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at September 22, 2019 02:59 PM (RcMUX)

7 The whole Biden-Trump-Ukraine situation illustrates in clear and stark terms that the media are corrupt Democrat apparatchiks and are working hand in glove with the Deep State.


Biden
is on tape literally saying he used the pressure of losing aid on
Ukraine to drop an investigation involving his son and the media just
tries to flip it as a Trump scandal when he wants it rightly re-visited.

This also illustrates the stark danger of the Deep State as it applies to Trump.

They
are monitoring and watching every move he makes and is essentially a
President operating under extreme duress with enemies both internal
and external to the executive branch, foreign and domestic.


This situation is extremely dangerous and must end.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 02:59 PM (jknEL)

8 How DARE he!!

Posted by: Outraged liberal idiots at September 22, 2019 02:59 PM (Ed8Zd)

9 Am I correct in that the 'whistleblower' did not listen in to the phone call that he reported as of concern?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 03:00 PM (2DOZq)

10 an official who had been dean of a college was run out of office after his opponent accused him of having looked at female students' theses in private, and had invited to campus traveling troops of thespians.

And he was a practicing homo sapiens!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:00 PM (Fao6g)

11 Constitution was written like 100 years ago so racist and Therefore bill and void

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at September 22, 2019 03:00 PM (PGTk6)

12 Trump should just shrug and say there's "no controlling authority" to stop him from making those calls, LOLGF!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (bDqIh)

13 Thespians?! You mean they had a Lebanese relationship?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (rBtIz)

14 The Constitution is all well and good but if we don't DOOOOOO SOMETHING about climate change by 11:15 tomorrow morning then the earth will be destroyed by 7:55 Tuesday evening.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (jh17W)

15 Also why in the hell are we still funding NPR??
Real Headline: "Why is American Classical Music So White?"

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (jknEL)

16 12 Trump should just shrug and say there's "no controlling authority" to stop him from making those calls, LOLGF!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (bDqIh)


And follow up with "At this point, what difference does it make?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM (Fao6g)

17 It doesn't matter what the truth is or what the Constitution clearly indicates. All that matter is how much of the propaganda the slackjaws will absorb.

Unfortunately, they've demonstrated their capacity is almost limitless.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM (kD8Fh)

18 When I was being investigated for possible employment in IC decades ago, my time in the Soviet Union and affiliation with leftist politics was disqualifying. Something has seriously changed since then.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM (EZebt)

19 >>Am I correct in that the 'whistleblower' did not listen in to the phone call that he reported as of concern?

Yes, this is Smears by Unnamed Sources 2.0.
Version 1.0 was via the MSM, this version is via whitstleblower reporting. Same op.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM (bDqIh)

20 13 Thespians?! You mean they had a Lebanese relationship?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (rBtIz)


No, they were Libyans. Try to keep up, OK?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM (Fao6g)

21 Exactly right, CBD. A few of us had this exact reaction from the outset - and I like Codevilla's point that these kinds of increasingly outlandish, baseless attacks rely on civic ignorance and collapse of standards that reward - or at least do not devastatingly punish, as would have been the case not *that* long ago - the shameless baseless crap that is now commonplace.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM (QDnY+)

22 poor liberals. They used up all the Chimp-Bush-Hitler talk, and realized all they have is an outrage mob to rely on.

Treason is supposed to be a rallying cry for the conservatives, so they are banging on that washtub for the while.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 03:03 PM (xG/b0)

23 Our president represents the US to the world.

They don't want no prezident they wand dimokrazy.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:04 PM (tyEy7)

24 The MFM and the Democrats hate the Constitution and have been trying to make illegal changes to it via their appointed black robes for over 150 years.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 03:05 PM (mpXpK)

25 Not so fast,

Hawaii District Judge Pakalolo says his power as a Federal Judge has no boundary and has found that President Trump has no authority over US boundaries, never mind outside the USA.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 03:05 PM (1g7ch)

26 the media's normal accountability is thwarted by all those that have been bought off with our taxpayer dollars. they do not care, or listen. only vote for more free stuff

Posted by: just do something at September 22, 2019 03:06 PM (0hOKG)

27 I'm not sure how U.S. law works. Is the president required to ask for permission from bug-eyed, pencil-necked low IQ Adam Schiff before making a phone call?
Seems unlikely to me.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 22, 2019 03:06 PM (eAMlh)

28 No, they were Libyans. Try to keep up, OK?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:02 PM

LOL

That was actually an obscure reference to a very, very long running theater mystery/comedy, Shear Madness. See it if you get the chance. It's great.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2019 03:06 PM (rBtIz)

29
The Jets should change their name to the Republicans.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 22, 2019 03:07 PM (eMoBB)

30
During the 1950 Senate race in Florida, challenger George Smathers supposedly said about the incumbent Sen. Claude Pepper:

"Are you aware that Claude Pepper is known all over Washington as a shameless extrovert? Not only that, but this man is reliably reported to practice nepotism with his sister-in-law, he has a brother who is a known homo sapiens, and he has a sister who was once a thespian in wicked New York. Worst of all, it is an established fact that Mr. Pepper, before his marriage, habitually practiced celibacy."

There's no evidence Smathers said any such thing. It was made up by a reporter.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:07 PM (7rVsF)

31 Real Headline: "Why is American Classical Music So White?"

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin
________

I tried to add some funkadelic elements to Italian baroque in the 18th century but they made me governor of New York so I wasn't able to focus on that so much.

Posted by: George Clinton at September 22, 2019 03:07 PM (jh17W)

32 Constitution shmonstitution, #OrangeManBad!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 03:07 PM (+y/Ru)

33 And apart from the enormous fundamental problems with the IC, the very idea that a line employee could file a "complaint" and be treated as a "whistleblower" WRT presidential foreign policy making may finally set the new untouchable low for constitutional/civic degradation.


Unfortunately there's no Congress, and no political party with the responsibility, brains, or integrity to lift a finger to fix this fiasco. No snark, absolutely straight observation of the facts.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 03:07 PM (QDnY+)

34 @19
I think the "Whistleblower" is trying to be too cute by half in that they are saying they did not listen in on the call because divulging the contents of the call would be a federal offense so they are saying they merely heard about it and are relaying it.

This situation reveals in stark relief the dangerous situation we and The President face.

If you ever thought why we can't work our will when we win power this shows us why.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 03:08 PM (jknEL)

35
"Why is American Classical Music So White?"

Everyone in the orchestras seems to be Asian.

Oh yeah. They're white now.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:09 PM (7rVsF)

36 The wheels are closing in!

Posted by: G marks the spot at September 22, 2019 03:09 PM (mrrpb)

37 Joey BiteMe's guilt on the tape at 2:42;
preceded by Rudy G. , if you want to hear his take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3xcU0rkYN8

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:12 PM (tyEy7)

38 >>"Why is American Classical Music So White?"


"Why is American Hiphop So Black?"
"Why is American Bossa Nova so Latinx?"

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 03:12 PM (bDqIh)

39 Real Headline: "Why is American Classical Music So White?"

-
Partial list of contemporary American white classical musicians.

Yo-yo Ma
Wynton Marsalis

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 03:13 PM (+y/Ru)

40 Also why in the hell are we still funding NPR??
Real Headline: "Why is American Classical Music So White?"

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 03:01 PM (jknEL)



this is hilarious on so many levels.

No-one who has listened to NPR since the 70's believes that NPR has anything to do with Classical music programming.

American Classical music is country, jazz, swing, bluegrass and klesmir. With a side of marching band.
The closestNPR has gotten to it in 30 years besides bumper music and incidental music for Kielor's weekly two hour Progressive-Liberal religious revival, was Marian McPartlan's Piano jazz, and she is both dead and white as Betty Crocker.

If the staff up at NPR want non-white classical music, they should get their lily white north eastern liberal asses out and write some.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 03:14 PM (xG/b0)

41 Unfortunately there's no Congress, and no political party with the responsibility, brains, or integrity to lift a finger to fix this fiasco. No snark, absolutely straight observation of the facts.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 03:07 PM (QDnY+)


We have managed to allow the elected of this nation's government, at all levels, to reduce itself to the lowest common denominator intellectual capability.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:16 PM (tyEy7)

42 "Why is American Classical Music So White?"


"Why is American Hiphop So Black?"
"Why is American Bossa Nova so Latinx?"
Posted by: Lizzy

Who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong
Who put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop
Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip
Who was that man
I'd like to shake his hand
He made my baby fall in love with me (yeah)

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 03:16 PM (vd8XM)

43 Well, we could declare war on Communism and put all U.S. Commies in camps. Like the WW2 Japanese citizens. After all, legal precedent in a Supreme Court decision makes that all okay. And precedent makes it just as binding as, oh, say, Roe v Wade.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 22, 2019 03:17 PM (LGo6U)

44 AllahP and his site are breathlessly linking to the latest version of what the NeverTrump line is, "This scandal isn't illegal - it's Worse!!!" (if you think that's a joke, it isn't. That's what they're going with today)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 03:17 PM (V2Yro)

45
Q: Why do people take an instant dislike to jazz?

A: It saves time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (7rVsF)

46 When Joe Biden is arrested and found guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced to life in prison, he needs to run for Preezy from his cell.

Biden/Cosby 2020....vote them in to get them out.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (Z+IKu)

47
We have managed to allow the elected of this nation's government, at all levels, to reduce itself to the lowest common denominator intellectual capability.
Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:16 PM (tyEy7)

Well that's always been true, but now the "lowest common denominator" is an illiterate somali tribesman.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 03:19 PM (V2Yro)

48 Speaking of Wynton Marsalis. da fuq?!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBdEteQGQg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 03:19 PM (+y/Ru)

49 This situation is extremely dangerous and must end.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 02:59 PM (jknEL)

They were successful in turning Hillary's Russian collusion, and collusion with foreign Agents (Steele) onto Trump.

Just as they are trying to turn Obama's and Hillary's blatant acts of corruption (book deals anyone?) into somehow Trump's company is corrupt.

Just as they tried to turn Biden's SONs corruption somehow onto the Trump family.

Somehow the Right is always successfully accused of what the LEFT is actually guilty of (look at racism).

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 03:19 PM (NgKpN)

50 Dealing with foreign rulers is supposed to be left to the 4 dimmest congress critters!

Muff Mafia, Unite!!!


...AOC...

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 03:20 PM (vd8XM)

51 I'm shocked to find Presidenting going on here.

Posted by: Your Winnings, Sir at September 22, 2019 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

52 When Joe Biden is arrested and found guilty of
crimes against humanity and sentenced to life in prison, he needs to run
for Preezy from his cell.



Biden/Cosby 2020....vote them in to get them out.



A man can dream.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (Z+IKu)


Don't laugh. Lula daSilva, the recently convicted and jailed ex president of Brazil recently told reporters that he will be directing his party from his jail cell.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 03:20 PM (xG/b0)

53 45
Q: Why do people take an instant dislike to jazz?

A: It saves time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (7rVsF)

Jazz was created for musicians that were too wasted to be able to play all the notes.

Posted by: Roy at September 22, 2019 03:21 PM (ABjxW)

54 I feel tey clearly have some leverage on DJT.. Cant think of another reason the declassification isnt proceeding.

Posted by: Ass Chum at September 22, 2019 03:22 PM (93Mlk)

55 >>>The closestNPR has gotten to it in 30 years ..., was Marian McPartlan's Piano jazz, and she is both dead and white as Betty Crocker.
...

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 03:14 PM (xG/b0)


Slaps knee; Thought you were going to say
Mary Lou Williams.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:22 PM (tyEy7)

56 Jazz was created for musicians that were too wasted to be able to play all the notes.
Posted by: Roy at September 22, 2019 03:21 PM (ABjxW)


don't be mean, that means Grateful Dead are jazz.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 03:22 PM (xG/b0)

57 35
"Why is American Classical Music So White?"

Everyone in the orchestras seems to be Asian.

Oh yeah. They're white now

-=========
I betcha 60 years ago the question was 'Why is American classical music so Jewish?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 22, 2019 03:23 PM (dmoiP)

58 Q: Why do people take an instant dislike to jazz?

A: It saves time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

That's for sure. I've tried to like it. After one or two songs, it's irritating

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 03:23 PM (vd8XM)

59 56 Jazz was created for musicians that were too wasted to be able to play all the notes.
Posted by: Roy at September 22, 2019 03:21 PM (ABjxW)

don't be mean, that means Grateful Dead are jazz.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 03:22 PM (xG/b0)

and also that Keith Richards is a famous jazz guitarist.

Posted by: Roy at September 22, 2019 03:23 PM (ABjxW)

60 Ya can't be a whistleblower if ya didn't see the game

only a gossip

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2019 03:24 PM (AQBtr)

61 Me and a thousand others hope this scandal only comes back to sink Crazy Uncle Joe

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 03:24 PM (ZCEU2)

62 Well ... if the policy is foreign, why not work with it awhile until it becomes more familiar ...

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 03:24 PM (LPnfS)

63 I'm not sure what that whistleblower was actually blowing, but it wasn't a whistle.

Posted by: Roy at September 22, 2019 03:25 PM (ABjxW)

64 This story is a two fer: blast trump and tarnish Biden. Warren and Buttplug for the Dims. The Republicans do occasionally win, not so the Jets. The Jets are the Whigs.

Posted by: Jamaica, Queens at September 22, 2019 03:25 PM (8loGC)

65 >>>I thought Obama was a sleazy prick who was not pursuing the best interests of the United States, but he was the president, so there wasn't much to do about that except vote him out of office.


I think the worst Obama got hit with is the observation that if he was against the US what would he do differently?

In hindsight, should have gone with impeachment.
Any reason would do.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 03:25 PM (1g7ch)

66 We need to put up a wall to keep Trump's foreign policy out.

Posted by: Sandy Donkey-Chompers at September 22, 2019 03:26 PM (ABjxW)

67 just began to wonder if the "whistleblower" is the recently fired aide, who some thought was canary-trapped with the "Trump wants to nuke hurricanes!" leak?
Some pretty frantic barrel scraping, it seems, if so

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 03:27 PM (W7IZQ)

68 just to repeat something posted earlier - I do think this is the beginning of the end of Biden's campaign. Not because of Biden's corruption, although it should be, because Leftists don't care about that. But Biden is going to be expected to Fight Back and Make Trump Pay, and he isn't going to be able to, because first, he already confessed on tape, so he can't deny it, and second, he is a confused, blustering, brainless old man who can't put any kind of coherent argument together.

And when the progs see that Biden is impotent to fight back on this, they're going to despise him, and the myth of Biden's "electability" will vanish. And without that, Joe's got nothin'.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 03:27 PM (V2Yro)

69
Some pretty frantic barrel scraping, it seems, if so

Posted by: barbarausa


Our Barrel? Yeccch!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:29 PM (7rVsF)

70
Q: Why do people take an instant dislike to jazz?

A: It saves time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (7rVsF)


I like David Sanborn.

Comin' Home Baby
https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=td1K5nQGp2A

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 03:29 PM (LPnfS)

71 Well that's always been true, but now the "lowest common denominator" is an illiterate somali tribesman.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 03:19 PM (V2Yro)


If the leftists want candidates to release their tax returns, we should demand that candidates swear that they still have their clits.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:30 PM (Fao6g)

72 I think Codevilla's lament about civic illiteracy was aimed at the consumers of this idiocy - the voters - not the political class. Properly so. Maybe only to whistle past the graveyard, avoid uncomfortable realities, and shield family and acquaintances from deserved condemnation as part of the problem, but so many will focus only on the alien, loathsome political class and not the voters who enable them, create them in fact.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 03:30 PM (QDnY+)

73 OT question: is anyone here a LinkedIn expert? I know TJM is, but he takes weekends off.

I just uploaded a profile pic...finally...under protest.

I've always valued my privacy but unfortunately today's jobseeker MUST cave to the social media giants, and that's what I just did.

I just need to know if LinkedIn is a bastard son of FB, IOW can I also upload moar pics since the freaking Nanny State wants to be all in my business so I can get a job and keep my house?

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 03:30 PM (kD8Fh)

74 The is the Left's standard tactic these days.

If an anti-leftist points out or exposes a leftist crime or evil, the focus in the media is instead always on the mechanism by which the anti-leftist acted -- NEVER on the crime or evil itself.

Examples:

-- Pro-life activist catch Planned Parenthood on camera scheming to sell dismembered baby parts. What happened? OMG YOU FILMED SOMEONE SECRETLY, DID YOU GET PERMISSION? WE ARE SENDING YOU TO JAIL for the crime of journalism!

-- Biden's family caught red-handed doing treasonous illegal deals with Ukraine. Trump points this out, asks that it be investigated. The result? OMG TRUMP'S IN LEAGUE WITH FOREIGNERS! No mention is made of WHY Trump talked with the Ukrainians -- a perfectly legitimate (and expected) thing to do.

-- Hillary exposed as endangering national security by setting up illegal insecure server in her home, allowing it to be hacked by anyone and everyone. Trump jokes about her incompetence and criminality. Result? OMG TRUMP IS SPYING ON HILLARY OMG OMG.

The narrative arc is always the same. Blame the whistle-blower, accuse the accuser.

The left is just straight-up evil, plain and simple.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 03:31 PM (Q3dyo)

75 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 03:31 PM (VXS7N)

76 one little bit disappointing thing to keep in mind: by all accounts so far, the "whistleblower" followed procedures and so isn't going to be suspect to any legal retaliation, and will probably keep their job. There is a Whistleblower Statute that when a federal employee "suspects" wrongdoing, they are supposed to write up a report and submit it to their superior, who then presents it to his superior. Looks like that's what was done. (never mind that the accusation should have been shot down immediately)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 03:32 PM (V2Yro)

77 Obama Mmmmmm!

Posted by: That time when school children were allowed to support the president at September 22, 2019 03:33 PM (9+jnX)

78 "This situation is extremely dangerous and must end.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 02:59 PM (jknEL)"
..It will, but you're going to be really disappointed if you're hoping that it ends in order to prevent all manner of unpleasant things. They're going to happen anyways.
Most peaceful resolution might be if the can gets kicked down the road far enough that the EU's implosion and jihadi clusterfuck failure adheres to the NA moonbats, massively discrediting them. But I don't see the NA lefties sitting still long enough for that to happen; they know they're on a timer.
And just because it's the most peaceful resolution, doesn't mean it's the best one, or even a good one. A number of questions need to be answered for at least a few generations.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 22, 2019 03:36 PM (67XdO)

79 The insanity from the Democrat Left is not what bugs me.

There have been liars and con artists since the dawn of time.

What bugs me is the number of ignorant people who believe them.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:37 PM (sy5kK)

80 So "Jazz" can mean the post-Miles heroin-saturated stuff that meanders on forever and is vaguely depressing, or it can mean a large body of very accessible and restrained music that respects the listener and is a lot of fun. For a dose of the latter, try jazz24.com.

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 03:38 PM (QE8X6)

81 If we take a step back this is really comical.

Joe Biden and his son we're getting Payola in the Ukraine and then squelched an investigation of his crimes based on threats to end Aid to the Ukraine.

Demanding the ukrainians restart that investigation is what a president should be doing right now.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2019 03:38 PM (WdocV)

82 We ain't going to get out of this without violence.
The left won't like it.
When over, people must pay with their lives... many people.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 22, 2019 03:39 PM (pw+jk)

83 And when the progs see that Biden is impotent to fight back on this, they're going to despise him, and the myth of Biden's "electability" will vanish. And without that, Joe's got nothin'.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 03:27 PM (V2Yro)


Yep, I agree to some extent, but let me play devil's advocate (especially apt phrase here).

Insty links to the Working Families Party taking intense heat from the Bernie Bros for endorsing Warren. So it's going to be tough to portray the Democrat Party as having a big wigwam.

Each of their wannabes has appeal limited to a narrowis slice of true believers, and huge drawbacks for the general election. Biden's senile and a gaffe machine, Bernie is a lunatic pushing ancient Marxist crap, Warren is a phony opportunist and an HOA Nazi, Harris is a nasty opportunist slut, Buttplug is a hard left flaming fruit, and the rest don't even budge the needle.

So ... whom to choose as the nominee?

(Btw, does anyone else suspect that Booker is now talking about shutting down his campaign so he doesn't have to speak at the upcoming LGBTQEIEIO soiree?)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:39 PM (Fao6g)

84 79 Having the MSM as your water bearer helps to spread your message.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 03:40 PM (ZCEU2)

85 Hadrian, now I can dream of all leftists permanently exiled to The Barrel.

mmmmmm!

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 03:40 PM (W7IZQ)

86 "79
The insanity from the Democrat Left is not what bugs me.



There have been liars and con artists since the dawn of time.



What bugs me is the number of ignorant people who believe them.







Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:37 PM (sy5kK)

....Eventually you just need to let it go, toss them in the "enemies" pile, and move on. There is only so much you can do for them before it starts sapping time and effort you need to spend on "not losing"; just because they're useful idiots, doesn't mean that they're not still on the other side.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 22, 2019 03:41 PM (67XdO)

87 but so many will focus only on the alien, loathsome political class and not the voters who enable them, create them in fact.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 03:30 PM (QDnY+)


It's difficult getting at the local power brokers.
Local power brokers is where the breakdown begins.
They make sure (here's looking at you pubbies) their guys are in the primaries. Our only other option, at best, being some unfunded idealist.

Oh, gifties, would it be that it were easier to take out the brokers than to educate the public.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:42 PM (tyEy7)

88 For a dose of the latter, try jazz24.com.
Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 03:38 PM (QE8X6)


jazz24.org is the jazz station from KNKX-FM that is on-line.

Locally they also have a 6 hour blues show on Sat and Sun nights 6pm to midnight that is excellent, but they don't stream it, unfortunately.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:42 PM (sy5kK)

89 83 (Btw, does anyone else suspect that Booker is now
talking about shutting down his campaign so he doesn't have to speak at
the upcoming LGBTQEIEIO soiree?)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:39 PM (Fao6g)

He is shutting it down because he has no money. He has been begging for money to keep it going and not getting any.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 03:43 PM (mpXpK)

90 LCD, exactly my point [and one of Codevilla's].


Every voter is responsible for their vote and behavior.


All forms of "dog ate my homework" - the press, the political class, the "left" - don't wash and are irrelevant. But there is no end to the implausible gymnastics we see/hear to excuse the voters from their disastrous behavior.



Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2019 03:44 PM (QDnY+)

91 OT: Aaron Eisenberg, who played Nog on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is mort, and has cashed in all acquisitions.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 03:45 PM (DMUuz)

92 Sadly Biden and son's actions will not cause any indictment or penalty, so trying to turn it onto Trump will be at worst a failure and nothing more.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 03:45 PM (ZCEU2)

93 @76
In order for the complaint to be "legitimate" the "Whistle Blower" needs to have direct knowledge, by all accounts the "Whistle Blower" has no direct knowledge or information, just third hand speculation.

This should have never risen to actual filing a report let alone briefing congress.

Now anybody can make up some bull complaint.

This is harassment nothing more.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 03:47 PM (jknEL)

94 I'm way too lazy to look at the NPR expose of why classical music is so "white," but it's not like the institutions are unwilling. You can't force people to do something they have no interest in doing.

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 03:47 PM (QE8X6)

95 80 So "Jazz" can mean the post-Miles heroin-saturated stuff that meanders on forever and is vaguely depressing, or it can mean a large body of very accessible and restrained music that respects the listener and is a lot of fun. For a dose of the latter, try jazz24.com.
Posted by: Caliban


"Jazz" basically refers to the popular music of the US between 1917 and 1955. There are various subgenres in each era, but they're all just forms of "jazz" -- in chronological order, Dixieland, "hot jazz," swing, Big Band, bebop, "cool jazz."

After 1955, rock 'n' roll supplanted jazz as the primary popular music of the US, and jazz quickly fell into decline and became mostly irrelevant. As a side-effect of this, jazz split into two opposite streams -- "pop jazz," really boring and treacly sorta-jazz (think Mel Torme, Barbra Streisand, th Longines Symphonette, etc.) intended to appeal to people who deemed themselves too old for rock; and "modern jazz," completely unlistenable experimental dissonant jazz, to distinguish its listeners as being (in their own minds) too hip and smart for the average rock-loving Nearderthal.

It is that final category -- modern (i.e. post 1955) experimental jazz that you (and I) and most sane people find so unlistenable and offensive. Because it not only INTENTIONALLY sounds horrible, but it comes with a built-in patina of smug pretension -- i.e. "If you don't like or understand this music, then you are stupider and less evolved than me." Pure assholism, in musical form.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 03:49 PM (Q3dyo)

96 a lot of music that was called jazz in its time - ragtime, dixieland, swing - is now seen as pop music and was even dance music.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 03:49 PM (Pg+x7)

97 He is shutting it down because he has no money. He has been begging for money to keep it going and not getting any.
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 03:43 PM (mpXpK)


I know that that's what he says, and I'm sure it's true, but let me put it this way: if Booker thought he'd turn in a boffo performance at the LGBTQ soiree, wouldn't hang on long enough to turn over another card?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:49 PM (Fao6g)

98 jazz24.com crashed my browser.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:50 PM (tyEy7)

99
Each of their wannabes has appeal limited to a narrowis slice of true believers, and huge drawbacks for the general election. Biden's senile and a gaffe machine, Bernie is a lunatic pushing ancient Marxist crap, Warren is a phony opportunist and an HOA Nazi, Harris is a nasty opportunist slut, Buttplug is a hard left flaming fruit, and the rest don't even budge the needle.

So ... whom to choose as the nominee?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 03:39 PM (Fao6g)



Warren is a phony opportunist and an HOA Nazi,

HOA Nazi. Perfect, Jay.

The kids will understand this one, too. Traditional references about Nazis to the young crowd aren't relate-able, since they were allowed to skip history in public school.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:51 PM (sy5kK)

100 Always Late, re local power brokers, we have an interesting situation in our county right now with the Dems:
A black female pastor who has made her local name finding racism and inequity under every blade of grass is running for the soil and water conservation board, as a stepping stone to higher office, having been so-advised by the local committee to do that instead of challenging their guy for supervisor in the district in which she lives.
The soil and water board is the last refuge of a Kennedy-wannabe guy who retreated there after losing several larger local elections. (he appears on Ari Melber regularly, aging bond Irishman with a bowtie)
This woman attended her first-ever meeting of the board for which she is running last week, and promptly said she could not stand being in a room with so many white people, that things needed to change in this racist group.
She has zero clue what the conservation board's metes and bounds are, and fifth-Kennedy-bro went nuts on social media, said the committee was wrong to endorse her, needed to retract their support, and incumbent Republicans were better choices for the actual mission of the body.

This guy is total TDS, conspiracy hound, the works, and he is standing his ground against her candidacy, taking much flak from his erstwhile moonbat allies.

Of course, he is old, white, and straight, so she is bitchslapping him all over the airwaves, but it is still a huge surprise to me that Mr. Intersectional Prog has finally met the part of the long-made bed he won't sleep in, now that the shit is in his little corner of power.

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 03:51 PM (W7IZQ)

101 98 jazz24.com crashed my browser.
Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:50 PM (tyEy7)


try jazz24.org

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:51 PM (sy5kK)

102 ... the intellectualized "free jazz" of the 60's was pretty much a dead end.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 03:51 PM (Pg+x7)

103 Dear Adam,

It is really awful how your weird Deep State leaker is knee-capping Joe. At this rate, he won't even make it to the convention. Good job!

ps: I you want to get a hold of me, I'm camped out on Liz Warren's couch.

Sincerely,

Posted by: Hillary Radium Clinton at September 22, 2019 03:52 PM (Ndje9)

104 Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 03:47 PM (QE8X6)

I was *wondering* when they were finally going to train their sights on classical music.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 03:53 PM (kD8Fh)

105 Prager who loves classical music has mentioned that it's hated by Leftists as "white" because its all 16-18 century white European males who wrote it.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 03:53 PM (ZCEU2)

106 58 Q: Why do people take an instant dislike to jazz?

A: It saves time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

That's for sure. I've tried to like it. After one or two songs, it's irritating
Posted by: Bruce


Not all jazz is horrible. I like jazz from the bebop era (i.e. around 1942-1955). Not all of it, but some of it. With someone to guide you, yo can find some great stuff in that era.

Modern jazz? Yeah, I agree with you, though.

The older pre-1942 stuff is OK in small doses, but can become grating on the nerves in larger doses.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 03:54 PM (Q3dyo)

107 "94
I'm way too lazy to look at the NPR expose of why classical music is so
"white," but it's not like the institutions are unwilling. You can't
force people to do something they have no interest in doing.

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 03:47 PM (QE8X6)"
....This is precisely what they're fighting for.
You can't do that *yet*, in most cases. But they're close in many and have achieved it in some. You cannot run an institution without running afoul of the state unless you bow to certain specific lefty positions.
This is also the start of their undoing - getting impatient, and grasping at any and every avenue to force people to bake the cake. It was only going to work if Obama really delivered, or failing that, if they got Hillary in. Failing to finish off the opposition left them exposed.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 22, 2019 03:54 PM (67XdO)

108 woops, aging *blond* Irishman

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 03:54 PM (W7IZQ)

109
"Jazz" basically refers to the popular music of the US between 1917 and 1955. There are various subgenres in each era, but they're all just forms of "jazz" -- in chronological order, Dixieland, "hot jazz," swing, Big Band, bebop, "cool jazz."

zombie
-------------------------


That was the heyday; however, Bill Evans, Woody Herman, Stan Kenton, Buddy Rich, The Jone Bros., etc. were producing and prospering past the mid 60s.


Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:55 PM (tyEy7)

110 ... but, gee, miles davis' "kind of blue" is just an incredible piece of music.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 03:56 PM (Pg+x7)

111 Post Modern Jukebox hits the sweet spot re: Modern Jazz.

Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2019 03:56 PM (/+b+k)

112 "... the "Whistleblower" is trying to be too cute by half in that they are
saying they did not listen in on the call because divulging the contents
of the call would be a federal offense so they are saying they merely
heard about it and are relaying it." penguin

right, he either was listening or heard from some Resistance Fighter Mole that was listening. And the POTUS doesn't have whistleblowers, he has spies, domestic enemies deep inside.


imo the MSM was briefed and prepped with the buzzwords "whistle blower" to frame the story as from a noble patriot on the inside. But going straight to the media is the tactic of the DeepState, used to control elected officials by smearing with propganda and engineered lied. This is just another PsyOp, probably right out of central casting (DeepState/CIA/FBI/Fusion/??)


These spies need to hand.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 03:56 PM (Cus5s)

113 guess I'll wait for TJM to show up for the LinkedIn answer.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 03:57 PM (kD8Fh)

114 You can't force people to do something they have no interest in doing.

Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2019 03:47 PM

This is why I hate the EEOC.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (gzG43)

115 hang ... not hand ... I'll give them a hand, in the hanging.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (Cus5s)

116
I was *wondering* when they were finally going to train their sights on classical music.

Posted by: kallisto


Classical musicians are such ridiculous throne-kissers. They always imagine themselves as philosopher-artistes, whispering wisdom in Dear Leader's ear while standing on the Kremlin Wall watching the parade. They're about to learn that they're going to be denounced by Zhdanov at the Party Plenum. Moar popcorn!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (7rVsF)

117 Of course, he is old, white, and straight, so she is bitchslapping him all over the airwaves, but it is still a huge surprise to me that Mr. Intersectional Prog has finally met the part of the long-made bed he won't sleep in, now that the shit is in his little corner of power.
Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 03:51 PM (W7IZQ)

If this was about a windmill his attitude would best be described as NIMBY.

Posted by: tbodie at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (0t+fn)

118 110 ... but, gee, miles davis' "kind of blue" is just an incredible piece of music.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 03:56 PM (Pg+x7)


I left out Coltrane not knowing he was producing until '67. And Cannonball Adderley too.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (tyEy7)

119 93 @76
In order for the complaint to be "legitimate" the "Whistle Blower" needs to have direct knowledge, by all accounts the "Whistle Blower" has no direct knowledge or information, just third hand speculation.

This should have never risen to actual filing a report let alone briefing congress.

Now anybody can make up some bull complaint.

This is harassment nothing more.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 03:47 PM (jknEL)


It is more than harassment, it is illegal intimidation against our duly elected President.

The blower of whistles (and other things) leaked a private conversation between the President and a foreign leader.

He is a criminal, pure and simple. And a traitor. It is the President's job to communicate with foreign leaders, not the illegal blower of whistles.


Either arrest this criminal, or we know there is no actual functioning law left, and prepare accordingly.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (sy5kK)

120 Hallo fine people! Been a busy girl today. Had to pick up a bunch of persimmons and run them thru a food mill so we can has persimmon cookies and pudding this winter. Lots more falling off the tree. Cut out fabric to make new napkins as most of the old ones are stained and fraying. Laundry is done. And now I check in to a thread that could produce rage stroke. . I suppose I could
A. Go back to the sewing room
2. Start ranting and swearing.
III. Take up drinking as a hobby.

Decisions, Decisions. ..

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (myjNJ)

121 Love Post Modern Jukebox
We use to listen to the jazz station, especially at supper, not so much these days.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 03:59 PM (ZCEU2)

122 102 ... the intellectualized "free jazz" of the 60's was pretty much a dead end.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp


You can say that again. Pure crap.

Know how to immediately identify an ignorant asshole? Ask someone if they like (or pretend to like) Miles Davis's album "Bitches Brew." if they say "Yes," they are an asshole.

That album is like a shibboleth to identity un-self-aware smug turds. No one actually likes it, but douchebags always claim to like it, since they (mistakenly) think that identifies them as "cool."

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 03:59 PM (Q3dyo)

123 91 OT: Aaron Eisenberg, who played Nog on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is mort, and has cashed in all acquisitions.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 03:45 PM (DMUuz)

So, do Ferengi have compatible livers and how much do they cost? Asking for a drink friend.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 22, 2019 04:00 PM (LGo6U)

124 Food nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 04:00 PM (gzG43)

125 109
"Jazz" basically refers to the popular music of the US between 1917 and 1955. There are various subgenres in each era, but they're all just forms of "jazz" -- in chronological order, Dixieland, "hot jazz," swing, Big Band, bebop, "cool jazz."

zombie
-------------------------


That was the heyday; however, Bill Evans, Woody Herman, Stan Kenton, Buddy Rich, The Jone Bros., etc. were producing and prospering past the mid 60s.


Posted by: Always Late


True. And similar groups even up until today.

But with each passing year, they become more and more irrelevant. By now, they are the tiniest of tiny subcultures on the fringe of "popular" culture.

Post 1955 Big Band never appealed to me. Small group stuff only rarely so.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 04:01 PM (Q3dyo)

126 Saw Pete Fountain and Stan Getz on stage together.
I thought, oh, poor Pete. Not At All. It was great.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 04:02 PM (tyEy7)

127 121 Love Post Modern Jukebox
We use to listen to the jazz station, especially at supper, not so much these days.
Posted by: Skip


They're good, one of the few modern groups I like.

When they hooked up with Puddles Pity Party and Haley Reinhardt, I knew they were cool.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 04:03 PM (Q3dyo)

128 I don't think it is actually NIMBY for him, but true horror that a body dedicated to the quality of the blood and skin of dear mother Gaia is going to be reduced to race-baiting by a climber

Posted by: barbarausa at September 22, 2019 04:04 PM (W7IZQ)

129 O/T but interesting --- Ed Buck was California Elector along with Pelosi's daughter and DiFi's granddaughter.


https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/

1175421184030191616

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2019 04:04 PM (bDqIh)

130 "Either arrest this criminal, or we know there is no actual functioning law left, and prepare accordingly.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:58 PM (sy5kK)"
Prepare anyways.
Those who haven't gotten their shit together are running out of time to either move or get it done. The closer you live to blue shitholes, the greater the risk of having your utilities interrupted. You also need to gameplan what happens if you stroll into work one day and find your moonbat coworkers waiting there with the local authorities - or with their own arms. You do not want to be caught flat footed.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 22, 2019 04:04 PM (67XdO)

131 110 ... but, gee, miles davis' "kind of blue" is just an incredible piece of music.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp


That was 1959, so I'll give it a "pass."

By 1970 (and Bitches Brew), Davis had gone beyond the pale and was no longer trying to be entertaining.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 04:06 PM (Q3dyo)

132 Behind the Thespians' Behind the Theses Green Door.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 04:07 PM (9PtLS)

133 101 98 jazz24.com crashed my browser.
Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 03:50 PM (tyEy7)


try jazz24.org

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2019 03:51 PM (sy5kK)


And remember, there's no "i" in "jazz"

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 22, 2019 04:10 PM (di1hb)

134 Flamenco Sketches, on the Kind of Blue album, features both John Coltrane and Cannonball Adderley; Beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3W_alUuFkA

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 04:11 PM (tyEy7)

135 ... davis' post-"bitches brew" is even worse, just unlistenable as he tries to go funk. or something.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 04:12 PM (Pg+x7)

136 ... in the end, funk kills everything.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 04:13 PM (Pg+x7)

137 I just looked, Bill Evans is on piano.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 04:15 PM (tyEy7)

138 133
And remember, there's no "i" in "jazz"
So true. Jazz part of the brain has fussed with ego/limbic part of the brain.
Jazz spice good. Whole chunks of jazz bad.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 04:20 PM (9PtLS)

139 Jazz isn't for everyone.
But I dig it.

Posted by: navybrat on a dock at September 22, 2019 04:20 PM (w7KSn)

140 For a fun change of pace, Powerline's Week in Pictures is always good.
Just saying.

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 22, 2019 04:21 PM (xkudx)

141 Jazz isn't dead...just smells funny.
F. Z.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 04:23 PM (9PtLS)

142 "Kind of Blue" is perfect music.

Posted by: Abby at September 22, 2019 04:24 PM (fZozM)

143 doggeh is clean
zoom zoom
am tired

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 04:25 PM (G546f)

144 142
Ok then.
I will experiment with this musical drug.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 22, 2019 04:27 PM (9PtLS)

145 109
"Jazz" basically refers to the popular music of the US between 1917 and 1955. There are various subgenres in each era, but they're all just forms of "jazz" -- in chronological order, Dixieland, "hot jazz," swing, Big Band, bebop, "cool jazz."

zombie
-------------------------

A slight correction - Jazz refers to the popular URBAN music in large US Cities between 1917 - 1955. A majority of the country, who did NOT live in those cites, were listening to the Carter Family and their offshoots, and then all of the Opry Stars nightly.

Hank Williams was more popular, by a HUGE margin, than any jazz singer that ever lived. And more influential, too. Williams leads to Elvis leads to Rock.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 04:29 PM (trdmm)

146 Holy Modi !!!

Posted by: The DNC at September 22, 2019 04:36 PM (Pzzpr)

147 >>>Williams leads to Elvis leads to Rock.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 04:29 PM (trdmm)
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Check # 95
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 03:49 PM (Q3dyo)

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 04:38 PM (tyEy7)

148 Oh, I dunno. I'm not a big jazz fan at all, but there's been plenty of good stuff since the 50's. Duke Ellington and Louis Armstrong were still kicking for a long time, Miles Davis did some great stuff before he went off the deep end, and I have two Wynton Marsalis albums that I listen to often (Hot House Flowers and Standard Time Vol. 1).

The ratio of dreck to good music is pretty high in the pop/rock scene, too, after all. Especially in these days of modern times.


At least with jazz you generally get actual, you know, musicians.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at September 22, 2019 04:52 PM (XuBZu)

149 Check # 95
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 03:49 PM (Q3dyo)
Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 04:38 PM (tyEy7)

I saw it, and I disagree. Country and Western grew out of Gospel and Southern Blues and Appalachian folk music, and in terms of numbers it was FAR more popular than jazz and it's derivatives. Of course they all cross pollinated each other; but country of the late 40's and early 50's turns into Rockabilly and then it bifurcates; one branch becomes Rock and Roll, and one branch becomes today's country music. (And the British Invasion of 1964 changed everything) The reason Jazz is an afterthought now is that it didn't have any successors and just died out, unless you want to consider Steely Dan a successor.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 04:59 PM (trdmm)

150 I wouldn't even let Adam Schiff man the fries in my store!

Posted by: McD Manager at September 22, 2019 05:02 PM (tGsDy)

151 Ramsey Lewis is one of my favorites- esp the beatles cover album

Posted by: free tibet at September 22, 2019 05:38 PM (CL76w)

152 Lots of misinformation on here about jazz, which is under a huge umbrella of things, most of which I hate. The avant garde has always been a sub niche and that will never change.

First four game sweep by the Cardinals in Wrigley since 1921. Even Stan the Man never experienced it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 05:43 PM (y7DUB)

153 153 david ken

That's the same spam we had so much fun with several days ago on the ONT!

I for one plan to give Dr. OLU a call! After alll...wh'sat the worst thing that could happen?

If he can't help grow my penis (and I for one believe he CAN!), then I'll try that new product all the guys are talking about now-- you know, Penis Helper.

If THAT fails...I'm headed to Lourdes.

Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2019 06:31 PM (Cssks)

Of Course We Hate Government Employees: They Represent Everything Bad In Our COuntry (Except The Media/Entertainment Complex)

It's "Reason," so the subtext is because government won't let them smoke marijuana while overseeing their H1Bs. But the point stands...more and more people seem to be expressing their contempt of and dislike for government. And to the liberals who squawk about it, I have to bite back, "tough shit. What the hell did you think was going to happen when you voted for big government? Are you really that stupid?"
Government Employees Think People Hate Them. Increasingly, They're Right

"People actively hate us," one recently retired U.S. Border Patrol agent complains in a New York Times piece on morale and recruitment problems at the federal agency. In El Paso, an active duty agent admitted he and his colleagues avoid many restaurants because "there's always the possibility of them spitting in your food."
That sounds as much like a breakdown of civility than as hatred of government, but I certainly understand the feeling.

The contempt for the taxpayer and the pleasure of control just oozes from many government functionaries with whom I have dealt for many years. But as government grows, their reach grows apace. When government was smaller, we simply didn't have to deal with these people as much.

But now? The Leviathan indeed!

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 Yay, Sunday!

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 12:17 PM (yDjHx)

2 Will I be hated less once I'm retired?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (kQs4Y)

3 Top 5.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (gzG43)

4

Maybe if they wore red berets.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 12:19 PM (aKsyK)

5 We don't hate you, we despise you.

Posted by: firefirefire at September 22, 2019 12:20 PM (LVVMh)

6

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:20 PM (kQs4Y)

7 Sorry for immediate OT, but...

Trump just said "I'm not going to comment on Biden, Biden's got enough problems. I'm not going to talk about that."

And then immediately detailed the oh but he bragged about bribing Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating Hunter's company.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:21 PM (FNXDu)

8 I hate the government but I don't hate the employees.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:22 PM (mpXpK)

9 When you install a ruling class with special privileges for life, and it becomes obvious that they have a status far above that of ordinary people, then yes, you are going to breed constant resentment.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 12:22 PM (V2Yro)

10 government employees forgot one thing. we pay their way. it's not us. it's them. not likely to change anytime soon. zero fucks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (KP5rU)

11 Top. Men.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2019 12:25 PM (DMUuz)

12 I don't hate all government employees but they know which ones I do.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 12:27 PM (ZCEU2)

13 I would say 50% of government employees try to do their job without being an asshole, the other 50% enjoy being assholes. 90% are incompetent.But I don't hate any of them for enforcing the law.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (4thlk)

14 Given that the story is of Border Patrol agents tryjng to uphold the actual law, I do sympathize. I also think that a good few of these restaurants should be shut down for employing illegals.

But the reaction shows that America is composed of two nations that absolutely -hate- each other. Given how leftists are destroying the memory of the Confederates who fought for their homes, the South is not likely to accept being enslaved by another false peace designed to destroy their culture. This one will be war to the hilt.

Posted by: trev006 at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (4vYtG)

15 12 to continue
The ones that dispise me, and suspect that is a very large number

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (ZCEU2)

16 When it becomes virtually impossible to fire someone, it shouldn't be surprising that "civil servants" acquire a contempt and air of superiority and freely express same when dealing with the peons they are "serving".

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (LGXGf)

17 I'm not sure our border patrol system is the first example that comes to mind when I have negative thoughts about "government employees." I've had a lot more damage done by someone behind a desk than someone in a uniform.

Posted by: MW at September 22, 2019 12:29 PM (hNTtn)

18 a breakdown of civility

I see it everywhere I go, these days.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 22, 2019 12:29 PM (EgshT)

19
Tell you what. When government employees are subject to the expectations, responsibility and consequences that those in the private sector are subject to, I'll respect them more.

When they start treating the public like customers whose confidence they need to maintain instead of subjects they can treat any way they want, I'll respect them more.

When they start treating the public purse as something precious and delicate instead of an infinitely expanding sack of cash, I'll respect them more.

No doubt many public employees do. Unfortunately, I rarely run across them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 12:29 PM (7rVsF)

20 I think ICE agents and other gov't employees are two way different things.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 12:31 PM (438dO)

21
@MariaBartiromo
Breaking news: @DevinNunes tells me #JosephMifsud was at the RT meeting where @GenFlynn spoke at the end of 2015. He's investigating why? The story of #mifsud true identity & whether he was working for western intel has yet to be told. It's coming. @SundayFutures @FoxNews

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 22, 2019 12:32 PM (BqBId)

22 Moar subtext: they cite leftists hating on Border Patrol, who are gummint employees I would still respect.

If only the IRS and all the other Deep State agencies wore uniforms so we could pick them out in a crowd, huh ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 12:33 PM (c1yAg)

23 I hate the "civil servants" not enough to diminish my honor by maltreating them directly but they take pride in their sloth they are paid too much for their sloth and they deign to attempt to decide my life for me.
They are funding people who want to tax the public into penury to pay them more.

Posted by: sven at September 22, 2019 12:33 PM (xbWHd)

24
@MariaBartiromo

Is she still... *draws outline with hands*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 12:34 PM (7rVsF)

25 I just had Amazon deliver a package and I didn't even see them come up.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:35 PM (mpXpK)

26 Most government employees are good people who may have wanted to serve the public at some point, but learned the hard way that it's grift, ass kissing, pensions and benefits are all that really matter and to hell with the service.

From the local gang at the firehouse to Mordor on the Potomac, the amount of money these looters take in would shock even Al Capone.

Pay them all minimum wage and watch the cockroaches disappear.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 12:35 PM (Z+IKu)

27 I work for a state government and it's bad enough... The bureaucracy is bad but I know it is much, much worse at the federal level and the city level too.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 22, 2019 12:36 PM (UUBmN)

28 And don't forget that while the government employees are treating you with contempt, they are "earning" huge six-figure pensions for life. They retire after 20 years and get paid as much or more than when they were "working".

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 12:36 PM (oGBso)

29 I'm not sure our border patrol system is the first
example that comes to mind when I have negative thoughts about
"government employees." I've had a lot more damage done by someone
behind a desk than someone in a uniform.

Posted by: MW at September 22, 2019 12:29 PM (hNTtn)



THIS! It's not border patrol I have an issue with. I know some total layabouts who have government jobs who show up for work whenever they want to and do nothing when they are there and are just marking time until they can collect their fat pension.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 12:36 PM (x2ZE6)

30 The current federal retirement program is not vastly different from most private plans. They lost that 20 year golden parachute I think some time around 2013.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:39 PM (mpXpK)

31 I would say 50% of government employees try to do their job without being an asshole, the other 50% enjoy being assholes. 90% are incompetent.But I don't hate any of them for enforcing the law.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (4thlk)

Sounds about right. We've all got our horror stories. But I've got bad stories in the private sector too. The difference is, the State has police power over you. You can tell a company to GF and take your business elsewhere. You can't do that with the State. They know it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 12:39 PM (H8QX8)

32 That's specifically ICE agents and Border Patrol who are hated, and that's by the left.

Posted by: Secular Blasphemy at September 22, 2019 12:39 PM (A+Gmv)

33 Government Employees Think People Hate Them. Increasingly, They're Right

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Literally *everything* can be a crime if someone wants it to.

Shoot a BB gun at a woodpecker who is knocking holes in your wood siding? Felony.

Make a pet out of a crow who got knicked by a car and can't fly anymore? Felony.

The list is endless.

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:40 PM (9nhoD)

34 Shoot a BB gun at a woodpecker who is knocking holes in your wood siding? Felony.


Shh. We like Ratched.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:41 PM (FNXDu)

35 I think it was Tom Servo who said it originally, but if a government worker knew he had three days to stop a horrific event and it corresponded with three days of comp time that he'd lose if he didn't use them, guess which one he'd choose?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:41 PM (9nhoD)

36 33 Posted by: Moron Robbie at September 22, 2019 12:40 PM (9nhoD)

Correct, the government mobilized against a person will eventually find a way to bankrupt them.
"The process is the punishment" is rule one to the civil service.

Posted by: sven at September 22, 2019 12:41 PM (xbWHd)

37 A record number of voters hate Trump personally. And as Obama proved, if voters like you, you win and win easily even if your policies aren't popular.

nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-

record-share-voters-dislike-trump-personally-democrats-

n1057036

Posted by: Frank Bank at September 22, 2019 12:41 PM (ChVRV)

38 Montana's history of Fascism....?
Well I don't much care for BULLOCK! but fascist?

Posted by: sven at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (xbWHd)

39 @MariaBartiromo

Is she still... *draws outline with hands*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 12:34 PM (7rVsF)
*********
Survey SAYSSSSSSSSS ????? YES!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (BqBId)

40 Illegals hating the border patrol is like a fugitive hating the cops.

Even if you hate "big government", isn't law enforcement one of the few things government is supposed to do? Even in a libertarian paradise?

And I doubt these same illegals hate their own home country's border patrol.

Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (sjTfF)

41 37 Posted by: Frank Bank at September 22, 2019 12:41 PM (ChVRV)

Sure sport, he is higher rated day for day than Ogabe.
When we win I will laugh at you, again.

Posted by: sven at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (xbWHd)

42 The current federal retirement program is not vastly different from most private plans. They lost that 20 year golden parachute I think some time around 2013.


Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:39 PM (mpXpK)
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I dunno about the feds, but at the state & local level (Illinois - spit) you retire with 80% ish percent of your final salary including bonus bumps the year you retire, with a guaranteed 3% untouchable COLA per year. After 15 years or so you are making double what your initial retirement package was.

Oh and Border Patrol/ICE is one of the few govt employees I'm okay with. Paperpushers in the bureaucracy are the problem.

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (oGBso)

43 Spank Bank:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*deep breath*


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good one buddy.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (Y4EXg)

44 Imagine if First Historic Black President was even halfway competent in economic matters.

I'm guessing people like money and being able to feed their kids more than almost anything, but I'll concede the point that voters are f*cking idiots for the most part.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (9nhoD)

45 Sperm Bank is back.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (nDe2U)

46 "A record number of voters hate Trump personally."

Of course the irony is none of them knows Trump "personally." They're dupes of an Alinsky Narrative con, the "personalize and polarize."

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 12:44 PM (H8QX8)

47
Harassment of Border Patrol and ICE is being committed by statists who want to import more statist voters to vote for bigger more intrusive government. Protecting the borders and controlling who's allowed in the country are actually legitimate functions of the federal government.

This is a bad example.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 22, 2019 12:44 PM (t5m5e)

48 You can get a "permit" to shoot nuisance ,birds like crows or woodpeckers knocking holes in your siding. But you do have to get the permit first. But always remember, "shoot, shovel, and shutup". Unless you are like me and have a sheriff's deputy living two doors down from you.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:45 PM (mpXpK)

49 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

How did it go yesterday?

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 12:45 PM (BLFnH)

50 Imagine if First Historic Black President were even halfway competent in economic matters.

Such an imagination you've got.

Also FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 12:45 PM (Fao6g)

51 46 Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 12:44 PM (H8QX

Professional liars disguised as journalists with megaphones....
Ask the average person on the street what they think about the media Frank Bank it is illustrative.

Posted by: sven at September 22, 2019 12:45 PM (xbWHd)

52 Trump's personal likability polling is still abysmal among registered voters who block out time on their schedules to savor sniffing their own hands after scratching their asses. It's a key demographic.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 12:46 PM (t+qrx)

53 Of course the irony is none of them knows Trump "personally." They're dupes of an Alinsky Narrative con, the "personalize and polarize."


Oh, please. You probably hate Alyssa Milano personally and you've never met her.

I had a lot invested in hating Trump personally, I'd hated him since the early 80s. It took me until about last year to come around on him.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:46 PM (FNXDu)

54 I could honestly see 25% of the nation enthusiastically voting to knowingly damage their children's job prospects and economic futures out of hatred for a person they don't know.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:46 PM (9nhoD)

55 I hate to say but local government employees are the worst. I think some of it has to do with the trend that they isolate themselves from the community. Cops only socialize with cops, teachers only socialize with teachers, bureaucrats don't socialize, etc., etc. There was a time not to long ago where the local department heads insisted more or less that the employees join a local service club. It did a few things, it showed them giving something back to their communities and forced them to socialize with regular citizens in a non-work related setting. That's all gone now.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 22, 2019 12:46 PM (4thlk)

56 46 "A record number of voters hate Trump personally."

Of course the irony is none of them knows Trump "personally." They're dupes of an Alinsky Narrative con, the "personalize and polarize."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 12:44 PM (H8QX
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True, but this shows that the MSM still wields the power and no amount of talk radio or Fox News (which isn't that conservative anymore) can counteract it.

There is no way Trump can become personally popular. If the economy improves and he doesn't do anything stupid on twitter, I could see his job approval topping out at 47% (in the major polls, not rasmussen).

But he will always be personally hated by the majority.

Posted by: Frank at September 22, 2019 12:47 PM (ChVRV)

57 42 I dunno about the feds, but at the state local
level (Illinois - spit) you retire with 80% ish percent of your final
salary including bonus bumps the year you retire, with a guaranteed 3%
untouchable COLA per year. After 15 years or so you are making double
what your initial retirement package was.



Oh and Border Patrol/ICE is one of the few govt employees I'm okay with. Paperpushers in the bureaucracy are the problem.



Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (oGBso)

State governments, particularly in the North, have been robbed robbing the taxpayers blind with union contracts that the unions wrote themselves.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:47 PM (mpXpK)

58 54: sadly that number might be a bit low.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2019 12:48 PM (nDe2U)

59 We are being trained to spit at police, BP, ICE -- all very direct enforcers -- and to revere the apparat of 'high level' bureaus of bureaucracy.

In the same theme, I remember even before the Watergate 'scandal' that saying the name 'President Nixon' would elicit spit.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 12:48 PM (MIKMs)

60 When you can't be fired for the job you do no matter how poorly there's very little incentive to do anything other than what you want to do.

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 22, 2019 12:49 PM (xkudx)

61 True, but this shows that the MSM still wields the power and no amount of talk radio or Fox News (which isn't that conservative anymore) can counteract it.

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This is a good point, and it's amazing to consider how conservative the nation actually is.

The left controls schools, government, welfare, every major city and most smaller ones, Hollywood, etc., and the country still votes half and half.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:49 PM (9nhoD)

62 ICE has that C part and if you had ever dealt with them with regard to exporting products to other countries you would hate them as much as the rest of the government.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at September 22, 2019 12:49 PM (1L9V9)

63 52 Trump's personal likability polling is still abysmal among registered voters who block out time on their schedules to savor sniffing their own hands after scratching their asses. It's a key demographic.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 12:46 PM (t+qrx)


It's also poor in prisons, bathhouses, VD clinics, welfare offices, and other Democrat strongholds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 12:49 PM (Fao6g)

64
How did it go yesterday?

Posted by: Infidel


Best of Opposite Sex to Duckie, who was Best of Breed. It's the same result as the 2019 National Specialty, so I was spared the three-hour lecture on the drive home about my shortcomings as a handler. Her Majesty was even mildly complimentary.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 12:51 PM (7rVsF)

65 In El Paso, an active duty agent admitted he and his colleagues avoid many restaurants because "there's always the possibility of them spitting in your food."

That sounds as much like a breakdown of civility than as hatred of government, but I certainly understand the feeling.

Exactly. I don't care how much I might 'hate' someone, I'm not going to be an immature asshole and spit in their food.

And the problem is not the "breakdown in civility", but the promotion and celebration of that breakdown by those in positions of power/influence on the Left (media, politicians, etc.).

As stated in Boondock Saints, "Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

Antifa would not exist if they were being punished for their terrorism. People wouldn't be spitting in food or attacking people at restaurants or other public places, if they were roundly condemned by everyone, instead of cheered on by the Left.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 22, 2019 12:51 PM (Do5/p)

66 They shouldn't model all their agencies like the DMV/IRS.

Posted by: BignJames at September 22, 2019 12:51 PM (X/Pw5)

67 is this the.pantless thread?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:51 PM (G546f)

68 is this the pantless thread?
Posted by: vmom

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You bet!!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 12:52 PM (Y4EXg)

69 "is this the.pantless thread?"

Could be....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 12:53 PM (cqNba)

70
The Heinleinian Permanent Civil Service Masters should be eaten and sodomized , er, sacrificed by Aztec Cannibal Zombies.

Posted by: Pendulous Richard at September 22, 2019 12:53 PM (UFLLM)

71 is this the.pantless thread?


They're all pantless threads. The book threadists just lie a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:53 PM (FNXDu)

72 Didn't think of the difference but maybe hate is flowing a lot more to goverment desk jockey than on the street hands on.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 12:53 PM (ZCEU2)

73 Will I be hated less once I'm retired?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (kQs4Y)


No, just scapegoated.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:53 PM (xG/b0)

74 In Texas, you can still get fired as a state employee.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 22, 2019 12:54 PM (UUBmN)

75 In Texas, you can still get fired as a state employee.
Posted by: lin-duh

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WHAT??!!

Wow, TX goes up even more in my estimation.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 12:55 PM (Y4EXg)

76 The left controls schools, government, welfare, every major city and most smaller ones, Hollywood, etc., and the country still votes half and half.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:49 PM (9nhoD)

It's the next best thing to a dictatorship. Every since there's been 2 people on earth, one has wanted to control the other.

Posted by: BignJames at September 22, 2019 12:55 PM (X/Pw5)

77 The left controls schools government welfare every major city and most smaller ones Hollywood shit

Posted by: Moron Robbie


Any town with more than 30K residents in it is under the total control of the Democrats.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (mpXpK)

78 "They are 'earning' huge six figure pensions for life"

Well, I seem to have totally missed that gravy train. According to the most recent figures I got from the IL State Employees Retirement System, (leaving aside for now the issue of whether the pension will still exist in a decade or so) I can expect about $1,400 a month if I were to retire at age 60 (not planning on it). That's $16,800 a year, which of course is better than a lot of other people have, but hardly "huge". And that's assuming it even still exists by the time I retire.

Most of the six-figure pension horror stories, at least at the state level, involve educators who got big salary spikes at the end of their careers, or police/fire pensioners who ran up lots of overtime and/or unused sick/vacation time that they cashed in on when they retired. It also helps to have started working for the gubmint right out of college or military service instead of waiting until your mid 40s like I did.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (9WuX0)

79 This is a good point, and it's amazing to consider how conservative the nation actually is.

The left controls schools, government, welfare, every major city and most smaller ones, Hollywood, etc., and the country still votes half and half.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 12:49 PM

Not sure we can judge how conservative is the nation based on voting results. Considering voter turnout is usually only around 55% of the voting age population.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (Do5/p)

80 Will I be hated less once I'm retired?

The only value you have now is what money can be taken from you. After you retire your contributory value will decline and your societal expense will rise.

IT'S CRACKER TIME OLD WHITE MAN!

Posted by: Pendulous Richard at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (UFLLM)

81 Arthel Neville not sure playing the opponent was arguing with Rep King on Trump's did or didn't phone call that it might have been a shake down, but not 1 person seemed to care Hillary shaking down for cash contributions.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 12:57 PM (ZCEU2)

82
I see the Yankees and their media lapdogs are whining about umpires treating them like other baseball players.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 12:57 PM (7rVsF)

83 IT'S CRACKER TIME OLD WHITE MAN!


I can state with unimpeachable authority that Eris is not an old white man.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:57 PM (FNXDu)

84 Will I be hated less once I'm retired?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta

Who could possibly hate Eris ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 12:59 PM (arJlL)

85 Congrats Hadrian!

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 12:59 PM (BLFnH)

86 Eris...

Check e-mail when you get a chance, please.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 12:59 PM (cqNba)

87 As an aside, with the Globull Warmering going on, why do government skools still use those big, old, nasty skool buses which belch all kinds of killing exhaust into Mother Earth's precious air? Does the cretin girl with the dead eyes know this horror is going on?

Save the Earth-Eliminate Skool Buses!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 01:00 PM (Z+IKu)

88 I see the Yankees and their media lapdogs are whining about umpires treating them like other baseball players.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 12:57 PM (7rVsF)


In fairness, the Yankees have gotten some really bad calls just recently.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:00 PM (Fao6g)

89 Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:46 PM (FNXDu)

"Oh please" yourself. I don't hate Alyssa Milano "personally" or anybody else with whom I haven't had some personal interaction or who hasn't done material damage to my life or my country.

My point was that many people who "hate" Donald Trump "personally" have never seen or heard him outside a remote and distorted filter, and in such a way which analogizes some distortion of what he's said or proposed with his supposedly hate-worthy character.

From all I've heard, Donald Trump is a magnanimous spirit, but to learn this you must escape the oppressive ubiquity of the MSM and their twisted Narratives.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 01:00 PM (H8QX8)

90 Save the Earth-Eliminate Skool Buses!

Yes.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 01:01 PM (EgshT)

91 They're all pantless threads. The book threadists just lie a lot.
=====

Elitists. The sans-culottes and the 'shirtless' (sans camisos?) RUs.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 01:01 PM (MIKMs)

92 Ah, "Reason" magazine, paving the way for plutocrats to rule us all.

Won't it be great when government is so tiny that the corporations can make all our decisions for us?

I used to read their web site, but it's now clear to me that four groups formed the core of the Libertarian Establishment:

1. Druggies
2. Perverts
3. Communists
4. Plutocrats

The first two are pretty obvious, but the Communist connection comes from the fact that the Communists were the chief beneficiaries of "free speech" movements and attacks on censorship. Now that they're gaining power, suddenly "hate speech" is an issue and must be crushed.

Finally, it was always the plutocrats ponying up the cash to fund Libertarian Fonzie and his fellow LARPers. Their "free movement of labor" plank always made zero sense in a Welfare State, but now they've figured out how to implement it without a single law being passed.

Trump pointed that out, moved to stop it and suddenly the Koch family decided that Republicans Are The Worst.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:02 PM (cfSRQ)

93 The left controls schools, government, welfare, every major city and most smaller ones, Hollywood, etc., and the country still votes half and half.
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Not sure we can judge how conservative is the nation based on voting results. Considering voter turnout is usually only around 55% of the voting age population.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (Do5/p)

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That might make the point stronger considering that the slack 45% are the dumbasses more than likely consuming most of the aforementioned leftist utopianism diet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:02 PM (9nhoD)

94 My worst "civil servant" experience has been with military contractors, specifically those who run housing on bases. They have a vested interest in getting the military to raise the BAH for the area, they have no motive for efficiency, they have a literally captive customer base, and since the ones who have the most sway on base (higher-ranking officers) never have to deal with housing contractors, they can screw over the enlisted any time they please.

No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?

Posted by: pookysgirl, scrivener extraordinaire at September 22, 2019 01:03 PM (XKZwp)

95 Fuck these fucking fuckers and the fuckers who look like them.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:03 PM (NWiLs)

96 'Sup?

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 01:03 PM (MVjcR)

97 " 'Sup?"

Too wordy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 01:04 PM (cqNba)

98 I borrowed these dead eyes from a friend.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 01:04 PM (EgshT)

99 Oh, and as for the automatic 3 percent IL pension COLA, no one hired for the first time after 1/1/2011 gets it. The problem is that it's going to take decades before the state employees on the old ("Tier 1") system die off and the Tier 2 retirees become the majority. Plus there have been some serious attempts made to rein in the 3 percent automatic COLA but the courts keep striking them down.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 01:05 PM (9WuX0)

100 97 " 'Sup?"

Too wordy.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 01:04 PM (cqNba)
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I can get a little blabbery on the weekends.

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 01:05 PM (mitVr)

101 Reason used to be interesting. Now it's a a platform for TDS a good 85% of the time, with the occasional decent story about the excesses of the police state.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:05 PM (NWiLs)

102
My worst "civil servant" experience has been with military contractors,
specifically those who run housing on bases.


Posted by: pookysgirl, scrivener extraordinaire at September 22, 2019 01:03 PM (XKZwp)

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No need to be specific. Twice I've seen contractors come out to work on a building on our base to do maintenance on the roof. It was loud, disruptive and of course as soon as it rained, the roof - which hitherto worked just fine - leaked like a sieve.

Then the contractors came back out...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:06 PM (cfSRQ)

103 John Nolte at Britebart has a good column on how the Left abuses children brainwashing them on global warming

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 01:06 PM (ZCEU2)

104 Just wait until they start confiscating guns.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 01:06 PM (I2/tG)

105 In Texas working for the state, you can be fired for being over fifty years old.

I liked them young...

Posted by: Zombie Ann Richards at September 22, 2019 01:07 PM (HBol5)

106 I liked them young...

And, how.

Posted by: Sniffin' Uncle Joe Biden at September 22, 2019 01:08 PM (EgshT)

107 Interesting to note that Trump is de-centralizing the bureaucracy, relocated office functions outside DC.

A lot of career employees are choosing to leave rather than move to flyover country.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:09 PM (cfSRQ)

108 Most of the six-figure pension horror stories, at least at the state level, involve educators who got big salary spikes at the end of their careers, or police/fire pensioners who ran up lots of overtime and/or unused sick/vacation time that they cashed in on when they retired. It also helps to have started working for the gubmint right out of college or military service instead of waiting until your mid 40s like I did.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (9WuX0)
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I don't know what area of govt you work in, but yes the horror stories are mostly based on education bureaucrats and teachers. And I'm not picking on you personally, I'm looking at the math.

Chicago teachers are about to go on strike, even though they are approaching $100K a year salary. Teachers in the 8-county (not sure, it used to be 6 county but Chi-town is gobbling up counties into its orbit at a fast clip) area all have starting salaries over $50K and once in the system the lane/step system gets you near $100K right quick.

School systems are the biggest employers in just about any town or suburb. All govt employees added together are almost always the biggest group of employed persons anywhere in the USA in any jurisdiction. Mostly can't be fired and mostly can't have their compensation diminished.

To use the greenies term, it's not sustainable. The few can't continue to support the many.

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 01:09 PM (oGBso)

109 Not sure you realize it, but the military are also government employees.

I work for USACE, so I'm Army, but also a government employee.

Get yer hate on, I guess.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 22, 2019 01:10 PM (vVOK2)

110 From all I've heard, Donald Trump is a magnanimous spirit,

One of my cousins met him before he ran for President when he was playing golf at one of Trump's courses. Trump was playing either right before or right after my cousin's crew, and was very congenial, asking how they liked the course, etc.

They met up again in the course restaurant, where Trump asked how they liked the food, etc. and offered to buy them lunch (which they politely declined).

All in all, my cousin was impressed with how nice he was, and this was considerably before he ran for President.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:10 PM (Fao6g)

111 I think the colonies that limited the vote to householders had the right idea

I imagine that when one voted on behalf of your entire household there was more practicality and less emotion involved

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 01:11 PM (G546f)

112 107 Interesting to note that Trump is de-centralizing the bureaucracy, relocated office functions outside DC.

A lot of career employees are choosing to leave rather than move to flyover country.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:09 PM (cfSRQ)


A brilliant move, and much needed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:11 PM (Fao6g)

113 109 Not sure you realize it, but the military are also government employees.

I work for USACE, so I'm Army, but also a government employee.

Get yer hate on, I guess.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 22, 2019 01:10 PM (vVOK2

Is that pronounced "you-sachee"?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:12 PM (NWiLs)

114 But is not that what Bhuseein and Friends wanted? Targeting Teas Party groups via the IRS. Uses the Regs of Obamacare to target high paid union workers or specific industries. Creating the CFPB to make consumer financing more complicated.

Progressives believe that they are the benighted enlightened rulers of the world and that people will become their beast of burden. And the protected sitting in the townhalls or DC HQs are very willing to let the everyday worker on the frontline become the evil face of government (and the threats and deaths that come with that) so that they can have power.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 01:12 PM (JFO2v)

115 CBP has had hate ginned up against them by commie-industrial complex.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 01:12 PM (80Uh3)

116 Oh, and as for the automatic 3 percent IL pension COLA, no one hired for the first time after 1/1/2011 gets it. The problem is that it's going to take decades before the state employees on the old ("Tier 1") system die off and the Tier 2 retirees become the majority. Plus there have been some serious attempts made to rein in the 3 percent automatic COLA but the courts keep striking them down.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 01:05 PM (9WuX0)
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I thought Gov Pritzker and Comrade Madigan just pushed through a bill that eliminated that whole Tier 2 thing.

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 01:12 PM (oGBso)

117 111 I think the colonies that limited the vote to householders had the right idea

I imagine that when one voted on behalf of your entire household there was more practicality and less emotion involved
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 01:11 PM (G546f)


Plus the voter had skin in the game. Raise taxes? He'll be paying them. Go to war? He'll be fighting it.

Focuses the mind, it does.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:12 PM (Fao6g)

118 All in all, my cousin was impressed with how nice he was, and this was considerably before he ran for President.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:10 PM (Fao6g)

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I have heard the same, from a friend-of-a-friend who relates that Trump was very cordial but also ruthless in terms of driving home the deal.

Contra the stories that he stiffs creditors, I was told that he drove a hard bargain but kept it and the relationship worked out for all parties concerned.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:13 PM (cfSRQ)

119 In Texas working for the state, you can be fired for being over fifty years old.

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The federal government - you know, the federal government that passed laws punishing age discrimination - have jobs that you can't apply for if you're over a certain age.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:13 PM (9nhoD)

120 I don't know President Trump any more than Jug Ears, but guess President Trump actually likes people except those who cross him, Jug Ears hates everyone not a dyed in the wool Leftist.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 01:14 PM (ZCEU2)

121 119 In Texas working for the state, you can be fired for being over fifty years old.

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The federal government - you know, the federal government that passed laws punishing age discrimination - have jobs that you can't apply for if you're over a certain age.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:13 PM (9nhoD)

That's whole game now, it seems. If you're over 40 and trying to get a new job in your chosen profession, you're pretty much fucked. It's technically against the law to discriminate against people over 40, so they use words like "overqualified" or "not a good cultural fit" to camouflage it.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:15 PM (NWiLs)

122
CBP has had hate ginned up against them by commie-industrial complex.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 01:12 PM (80Uh3)

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Well, yes. Reason hates border enforcement, so they want to broadcast news that *everyone* hates it as well.

Funny, no one's talking about postal carriers being attacked, or teachers spit on, just the Designated Targets of the Plutocrats.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:15 PM (cfSRQ)

123 Obama is said to be very charming when he wants to be

Mooch otoh I can't imagine...

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 01:15 PM (G546f)

124 I have kind of an unusual position in a legislative branch agency that is not unionized and in which employment is at will and we CAN be fired (though it happens rarely). Most state jobs that people know and hate -- drivers license bureau, state troopers and park rangers, welfare caseworkers, etc. -- are executive branch agencies controlled ultimately by the governor, and the vast majority of those are unionized. Teachers are not directly employed by the state but their pensions are state funded.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 01:15 PM (9WuX0)

125 Obama is said to be very charming when he wants to be

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I'm guessing it all depends on if he wants something from you or not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:18 PM (9nhoD)

126 The problem with Jug Ears was that he thought he was President of Zimbabwe, and comported himself accordingly, i.e., in Third World fashion.

He revealed this in particular when he referred to "HIS military" and clearly viewed himself much the way Mugabe considered himself.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:18 PM (Fao6g)

127 What this country needs is a restoration of the Federal system. The problem with the Federal government is less it's power, though that is too great for my tastes, than it's reach. There is effectively no escape. We need to go back to being ruled by out local citizens where we can effectively lobby and if we still don't get the laws the way we want them, we can move to somewhere more to our tastes.


Back the Theocracy of 1878!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:19 PM (yQpMk)

128 "I thought Pritzker pushed through a bill that eliminated the Tier 2 thing"

No, they didn't, maybe it was discussed at one time but I've heard nothing about it and Tier 2 is still firmly in place.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 01:19 PM (9WuX0)

129 Obama is said to be very charming when he wants to be

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I'm guessing it all depends on if he wants something from you or not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:18 PM (9nhoD)
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Bill Maher (yes I'm aware) has stated more than once that he gave Barky a million dollars, and Barky proceeded to treat him like he owed Barky a million dollars.

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 01:19 PM (oGBso)

130 Obama is said to be very charming when he wants to be



And no gag reflex.

Posted by: Frank Marshall Davis at September 22, 2019 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

131 Under anne richards term as gov of Texas, their were several class action lawsiuts against the state for age discrimination . The state lost all if i recall.

Hope it is more civilized under Gov Abbot

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 01:21 PM (eaw6P)

132 65. exactly, wtf is wrong with these people ?

Posted by: squidword at September 22, 2019 01:22 PM (Hw4bz)

133 I have kind of an unusual position in a legislative
branch agency that is not unionized and in which employment is at will
and we CAN be fired (though it happens rarely). Most state jobs that
people know and hate -- drivers license bureau, state troopers and park
rangers, welfare caseworkers, etc. -- are executive branch agencies
controlled ultimately by the governor, and the vast majority of those
are unionized. Teachers are not directly employed by the state but their
pensions are state funded.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 01:15 PM (9WuX0)

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Government employees absolutely can be fired, it's just a question of whether the executive wants it to happen.

Look up what happened to Obama-era whistle-blowers. Those folks got stomped on, hard.

The reason people seem immune from punishment is because their bosses like what they are doing or don't care. But let there be no doubt - if the feds or state wants someone to leave, they can make it happen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 01:23 PM (cfSRQ)

134 I'm a McDonald's employee and Pelosi walks in, she's lucky if she finds only spit on her quarter pounder.

Posted by: Nut's Fairy Barn at September 22, 2019 01:24 PM (CoUf9)

135 Contra the stories that he stiffs creditors, I was told that he drove a hard bargain but kept it and the relationship worked out for all parties concerned.

If you routinely stiff creditors, word gets around, and soon you don't get any bids on your jobs, or only bids that price in the expected future litigation.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 01:24 PM (I2/tG)

136 Is that pronounced "you-sachee"?

"Me Tarzan. You Sachee".

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:24 PM (arJlL)

137 I have worked for government at all levels. By far and away, local county government was the most efficient and least wasteful.

My last position was as director of a large state-wide medical services program. If I told you of the abuse of power, wastefulness and stupidity while I was employed by the state, you simply wouldn't believe it.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:24 PM (TdMsT)

138 From all I've heard, Donald Trump is a magnanimous spirit,

All in all, my cousin was impressed with how nice he was, and this was considerably before he ran for President.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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A dear cousin of mine had business dealings with Trump Inc. somewhere in Maryland. He said Mr. Trump and his people were the absolute toughest, miserable, prick bastards he ever had to deal with in terms of business. Nothing shady, just hard nosed guys/gals that got shit done. Outside of work, great guy.

Businesswise, he doesn't want anything to do with him ever again.

But, will happily vote for him again in 2020.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 01:25 PM (Y4EXg)

139

Kiss the Ring, Citizens.

Posted by: Autocephelax Eternal at September 22, 2019 01:25 PM (UFLLM)

140 Conservatives used to be Libertarians, until they decided we needed to spend 20% of our GDP on putting our military all over the world and putting cameras in every bedroom.

Ya'll Conservatives USED to have principles.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at September 22, 2019 01:26 PM (+urQ2)

141 Government employees absolutely can be fired, it's just a question of whether the executive wants it to happen.

I have some experience with a Federal agency, and the rules are set up so that it requires an enormous amount of senior management time to fire somebody.

It's a lot easier and more efficient, given these incentives, to just assign the miscreant to a make-work job, than tie up your senior people trying to fire people.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 01:26 PM (I2/tG)

142 But, will happily vote for him again in 2020.
Posted by: Tonypete

Hear hear !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:27 PM (arJlL)

143 Another good option is to get rid of the Progressive Era Good Government shit and reinstitute Patronage. he way it is now, if my postmaster offends me, I'm SOL. If he had his job because of the President's party, I could threaten to vote for opposition if I wasn't happy.

The Civil Service system is anti-American.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:27 PM (yQpMk)

144 I wish I'd have worked for the govt, in any capacity. The past two years of job instability has been nerve wracking.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 01:28 PM (80Uh3)

145

Set me up as God Emperor of the Universe, and I'll fix everything!

Swearsies!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at September 22, 2019 01:28 PM (UFLLM)

146 Conservatives used to be Libertarians


Yeah, no.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

147 I see Mommy & Daddy left FrankenFucker out of the dungeon cellar

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 22, 2019 01:29 PM (BqBId)

148 "People actively hate us," one recently retired U.S. Border Patrol agent


Hate em back. It works for us.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2019 01:29 PM (myjNJ)

149 I hate the cat shit on my lawn but I don't blame the cats,I hold the cast of CATS responsible AND the furry fuckers pretending to be cats and Sanfranpsycho he can't hold a LOG till he gets to the sidewalk!!!
If you laid all the turds in the world end to end you would have stinky hands................

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 01:29 PM (5IHGB)

150 My last position was as director of a large state-wide medical services program. If I told you of the abuse of power, wastefulness and stupidity while I was employed by the state, you simply wouldn't believe it.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:24 PM (TdMsT)

I'm certain that I would. Hell, I've observed plenty of that in the private sector too.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:29 PM (NWiLs)

151 So much of success seems to be driven by how far your head is up the asses of the right people.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)

152 50 Imagine if First Historic Black President were even halfway competent in economic matters.
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Such an imagination you've got.

Also FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 12:45 PM (Fao6g)


Can't even think of him in those terms.
Economically he achieved his goal.
Socially he achieved his goal.

He wanted to disrupt or destroy the foundations of this Republic. He came close.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 01:31 PM (3XdZI)

153 School Football Game Canceled After Cheerleaders Held Pro-Trump Banner

Stanly Co. Schools@StanlySchools
SCS has been notified of additional information that could compromise safety measures in place for sporting events. Upon receiving information, the NSHS football game scheduled for 9/20/19 is canceled. Safety is our first concern.

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Gotta nip that shit in the bud!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 01:31 PM (+y/Ru)

154 JT --you said earlier you want to ask me a question.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:31 PM (TdMsT)

155 Ru Roh.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 01:32 PM (3XdZI)

156 In fairness, the Yankees have gotten some really bad calls just recently.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:00 PM (Fao6g)

Whining is unsporting, but this is true.
Somebody has it in for the Yankees this year.
Maybe it's Boone they don't like.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:32 PM (NFEMn)

157 So much of success seems to be driven by how far your head is up the asses of the right people.


Or just being friends with them. If I had my career to do over, I would not have left a certain corporate job where I was buddies with the heir, who is now President and CEO of the company. I left because the job I had wasn't challenging enough.

25yos can be plenty stupid.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (yQpMk)

158 Government is so big that "government employee" can mean so many different things. --

There are bureaucrats. Most of them are conscientious and benign. I don't see any ill will toward them.

There are social workers. These are the people who can deny benefits -- or worse, cancel benefits. As perverse as it is, welfare is the client's livelihood. Of course social workers are hated. It's unfair but understandable.

There are police officers. They're military people who see everyone else as their enemy. The only surprise here is that it's taking so long to reciprocate the sentiment.

There are public works employees. Everyone complains about them, which is kind of unfair. These people, especially the snowplow drivers, are truly underappreciated.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (jh17W)

159 "Whether he wants something from you or not" is just like every woman boss I've ever met, come to think of it.

I'd much rather be around someone who was the same regardless of what the situation was, frankly. Oh, the hardass guy is a hardass? Okay. At least I know that walking into the room every day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (9nhoD)

160 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

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On the bright side, Social Security is now solvent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (+y/Ru)

161 School Football Game Canceled After Cheerleaders Held Pro-Trump Banner

Stanly Co. Schools@StanlySchools
SCS has been notified of additional information that could compromise safety measures in place for sporting events.



The unpredictably violent nature of Democrats is a real safety problem.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:34 PM (yQpMk)

162 25yos can be plenty stupid.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (yQpMk)


You kept your soul.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 01:34 PM (3XdZI)

163 We need to go back to being ruled by out local citizens where we can
effectively lobby and if we still don't get the laws the way we want
them, we can move to somewhere more to our tastes.

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My regular rag on the 'saving money' consolidating voting/taxing bodies is precisely that lack of local control. You can gripe or compliment one of your local representatives, but when you have to travel to Big Serious Government to be heard, no taxpayer saves money.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (MIKMs)

164 Government is so big that "government employee" can mean so many different things. --...

...These people, especially the snowplow drivers, are truly underappreciated.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (jh17W)

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If government employees are not required to show up to work on snow days then they shouldn't be full time, much less have any type of medical or retirement benefits.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (9nhoD)

165
Success in America comes from having an above average physique and looks, being jockish, achieving B(-) grade status and being a fraternity/sorority chapter alumni.

That's it.

That is success, automatic, in the ole US of A.

Of course brilliantly gifted - physically, mentally or sexually - individuals can rise to the top, as individuals, but they are not rising from group genotype/phenotype pool of typical success.

Be a Frat Jock with Gentleman's C's and the world is yours.

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (UFLLM)

166 You kept your soul.

I would have kept it anyway. It was, and still is, a great company. I just would have been a VP in it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:36 PM (yQpMk)

167 JT --you said earlier you want to ask me a question.
Posted by: Ladyl

Yes, 2 questions, actually.

You said you were asked to go to Martha's Vineyard to close 2 estates.

Is that something that you do ? Have done ?

And..... question #2 How was your "Not a Date" ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:36 PM (arJlL)

168 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

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Quick, ban straws or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:36 PM (9nhoD)

169 Depends what department they work for. Also depends how much they get paid vs the private sector, and their benefits vs same.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at September 22, 2019 01:37 PM (+urQ2)

170 My cousin retired from the feds, a defense supporting job. He and his wife will be able to live comfortably until God calls them home.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 01:37 PM (80Uh3)

171 159 "Whether he wants something from you or not" is just like every woman boss I've ever met, come to think of it.

I'd much rather be around someone who was the same regardless of what the situation was, frankly. Oh, the hardass guy is a hardass? Okay. At least I know that walking into the room every day.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (9nhoD)

This. The worst guy I ever had to work with was, shall we say, mercurial. You never knew what version of him you were going to have to deal with on any given day. Gave me major agita.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

172 Gov worker = IQ 90 for max usefulness. Any extra is unneccessary and job dissatisfaction. And headaches for us h8rs. Ima h8er.

Posted by: Ass Chum at September 22, 2019 01:38 PM (93Mlk)

173 Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months'

That's a reference to Trump's reelection.

Doing anything - anything - to stop Trump from being reelected is legitimate, because The Planet Will Die if Trump wins.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2019 01:38 PM (I2/tG)

174 165
Success in America comes from having an above average physique and looks, being jockish, achieving B(-) grade status and being a fraternity/sorority chapter alumni.

That's it.

That is success, automatic, in the ole US of A.

Of course brilliantly gifted - physically, mentally or sexually - individuals can rise to the top, as individuals, but they are not rising from group genotype/phenotype pool of typical success.

Be a Frat Jock with Gentleman's C's and the world is yours.
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (UFLLM)

You ain't wrong.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

175 If let's change global warming for a SMOD meteor that we knew was going to wipe out earth in 12 years to the day. Does money and other commodities get more worthless every day forward?

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 01:39 PM (ZCEU2)

176
Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

*snaps fingers*

That reminds me, I got sausages and ribeyes to grill.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 01:39 PM (7rVsF)

177 Does money and other commodities get more worthless every day forward?


Our entertainments would get more violent and become relatively indistinguishable from small wars.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:40 PM (yQpMk)

178 175 If let's change global warming for a SMOD meteor that we knew was going to wipe out earth in 12 years to the day. Does money and other commodities get more worthless every day forward?
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 01:39 PM (ZCEU2)

Yes. Hookers and blow will peak, however.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:40 PM (NWiLs)

179 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years
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I'm glad they're starting to work with tighter deadlines.

18 months isn't that far away. We can prove them wrong in a year and a half!

These 30 year timelines are tough. Everybody forgets all about it.

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2019 01:40 PM (oGBso)

180
Is that something that you do ? Have done ?

And..... question #2 How was your "Not a Date" ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:36 PM (arJlL)

It was a friend of a friend who referred me to the couple who needs not only estate navigation, but organization and disposal of the material estate.

While I am a financial person and also have helped people downsize and dispose of estates, I have never done it professionally.

I declined the work.

My "not a date" takes place Thursday evening. Total awkwardness.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:40 PM (TdMsT)

181 Most of the six-figure pension horror stories, at least at the state level, involve educators who got big salary spikes at the end of their careers, or police/fire pensioners who ran up lots of overtime and/or unused sick/vacation time that they cashed in on when they retired. It also helps to have started working for the gubmint right out of college or military service instead of waiting until your mid 40s like I did.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (9WuX0)
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Another game in the Police and Fire sweepstakes is --especially in large (but not huge) cities-- is for them to all take turns being Chief for a year so they can each retire with Chief's pay.
They don't think there is anything wrong with this and you'll never get through to them. It's just the way it is.

But municipal budgets groan under the strain and taxes always go up.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (NFEMn)

182 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

To save the species then we need to load all of the West First World Woke Youth onto spaceships and scatter them across the Universe, to Save the Species.

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (UFLLM)

183 Walking by a spa near my home last night that apparently has started selling CBD, saw a list on the window of all its miracle healing powers - not kidding, it lists 40 ailments from anxiety to seizures including cancer. Adding it up, pretty much cures every damn thing. The only thing we need now is the horse drawn carriage with a guy hawking the stuff out of the side,

Posted by: Nut's Fairy Barn at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (L91xj)

184 If we knew to a certainty the world was getting annihilated in 12 years I would go out in a blaze of unrepressed, unapologetic debauchery.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

185 When businesses increase their sales base they increase their profits and the unit price decreases.

When municipalities increase their tax base (population increase) they raise taxes instead of lowering them.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (3XdZI)

186 It was a friend of a friend who referred me to the couple who needs not only estate navigation, but organization and disposal of the material estate.

While I am a financial person and also have helped people downsize and dispose of estates, I have never done it professionally.


That's pretty impressive.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (arJlL)

187
Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

Maybe they'd like to append their names to this bold proclamation. If it doesn't turn out that way, how about they'll be unemployable?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 01:43 PM (7rVsF)

188 My "not a date" takes place Thursday evening. Total awkwardness.
Posted by: Ladyl

Ok, I'm not laughing.......

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:43 PM (arJlL)

189 The only thing we need now is the horse drawn carriage with a guy hawking the stuff out of the side


*ptooey*

How is it on stains?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2019 01:43 PM (yQpMk)

190 182 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

To save the species then we need to load all of the West First World Woke Youth onto spaceships and scatter them across the Universe, to Save the Species.
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (UFLLM)


Funny--doesn't that 18 months allow the next potentially leftist President only one month to save the earth?

I say-- party like it's 1999 right now and go out in a blaze of glory!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (TdMsT)

191 My "not a date" takes place Thursday evening. Total awkwardness.
Posted by: Ladyl

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Kidney buyer? Protip - don't hand it over unless the $$$ is in your hand.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (Y4EXg)

192 I see the locals here are defining adding insulation and upgrading heating/cooling systems as "green jobs."

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (BLFnH)

193 If we knew to a certainty the world was getting annihilated in 12 years I would go out in a blaze of unrepressed, unapologetic debauchery.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)


I'd feel less bad about throwing out things in the refrigerator that are borderline but probably still safe.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (t+qrx)

194 If we knew to a certainty the world was getting annihilated in 12 years I would go out in a blaze of unrepressed, unapologetic debauchery.
Posted by: Insomniac

Sooo.....xtra cheese on yer whopper xtra large drink....AND a straw !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (arJlL)

195 Success in America comes from having an above average physique and looks, being jockish, achieving B(-) grade status and being a fraternity/sorority chapter alumni.

That's it.

That is success, automatic, in the ole US of A.

Of course brilliantly gifted - physically, mentally or sexually - individuals can rise to the top, as individuals, but they are not rising from group genotype/phenotype pool of typical success.

Be a Frat Jock with Gentleman's C's and the world is yours.
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (UFLLM)

Hate to admit this, but this is largely true.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (NFEMn)

196 If let's change global warming for a SMOD meteor that we knew was going to wipe out earth in 12 years to the day. Does money and other commodities get more worthless every day forward?

Posted by: Skip
________

Economics -- pfft -- pseudoscience.

Take bananas as an example. Banana trees are supposedly going extinct. I hear this every couple-few months. Bananas should be a rare commodity by now, a delicacy only enjoyed by the world's richest elites. But I never seen bananas so cheap at the supermarket.

Then again, maybe this proves your theory, Skip, but it's only true for bananas.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (jh17W)

197 So my brother-in-law finally gets up the nerve to confront an employee of his at a state agency where he's a supervisor.

He sits down at the table with him, alone, in the cafeteria where the employee spends most of his time and asks him why he spends so much time in the cafeteria.

The guy looks at him and says "Because I can."

Posted by: pawn at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (PveK5)

198 trump is a train. a love train.

alllll abbbooooaaaarrrrddd!!!

it's pulling out of the station!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (Pg+x7)

199 My friend started working for one of the alphabet agencies in DC in her mid-50s. She is now pushing 70 and can keep the job as long as she wants.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (80Uh3)

200
Kidney buyer? Protip - don't hand it over unless the $$$ is in your hand.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (Y4EXg)


No--potential "donor."

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (TdMsT)

201 A breakdown in politeness is more significant than a riot. Who said that, Heinlein?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (LxTcq)

202 182 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

So they still have to do their homework for the next 18 months, though, right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:45 PM (Fao6g)

203 I have heard horror stories of city/ county officials getting 1/2 mill a year in pentions, especially in Leftifornia

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 01:46 PM (ZCEU2)

204 Sooo.....xtra cheese on yer whopper xtra large drink....AND a straw !
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (arJlL)

I was thinking more bacchanal than burgers. You have no idea what builds up within someone who's had a sheltered, repressed and largely anhedonic life.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:47 PM (NWiLs)

205 Be a Frat Jock with Gentleman's C's and the world is yours.
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (UFLLM)

Hate to admit this, but this is largely true.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:44 PM (NFEMn)

I meant to add the one reason why this is true is that Jock Types tend to be more outgoing, have bigger personalities and usually excel in the back-slapping, glad-handing, "how ya doin', let me buy you a drink" day to day routine of the SALES world.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:47 PM (NFEMn)

206 186 It was a friend of a friend who referred me to the couple who needs not only estate navigation, but organization and disposal of the material estate.

While I am a financial person and also have helped people downsize and dispose of estates, I have never done it professionally.


That's pretty impressive.
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:41 PM (arJlL)


Nothing impressive about it! It's just grueling frustrating work, and I will never do it again, if I have a choice!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:48 PM (TdMsT)

207 Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (UFLLM)

Senior management requirement: shiny shoes, good hair. Preferably with precious little underneath it.

I once spent years trying to explain the mole concept of chemistry to one such. He simply wasn't intelligent enough to grasp the principle.

"See, a 'mole' is a collective noun for a specified number of molecules, kind of like a 'battalion' is a collective noun for a specified number of soldiers."

Bovine expression follows. He never did grasp the idea. Good hair, shiny shoes though.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:49 PM (Fao6g)

208 Nothing impressive about it! It's just grueling frustrating work, and I will never do it again, if I have a choice!
Posted by: Ladyl

Okay ! Okay !

Jeeeeeez !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:50 PM (arJlL)

209 I've said it on Insty:

Obama wiretapping Trump for entirely political reasons is going to be the meme nutshell of the democrat party in a hundred years. They will wear this eventually, even if no one ever goes to prison. And sooner if everyone goes to prison.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 01:50 PM (LxTcq)

210 Be a Frat Jock with Gentleman's C's and the world is yours.
=====

I think it only works with the 'best' schools and the 'best' parents according to some marketing formula.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 01:50 PM (MIKMs)

211 Okay ! Okay !

Jeeeeeez !
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 01:50 PM (arJlL)



Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:51 PM (TdMsT)

212 199 kallisto, that's actually pretty cool imo
what kind of job does she do?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 01:51 PM (G546f)

213 My "not a date" takes place Thursday evening. Total awkwardness.


Oh, awesome! Have you asked the Horde what you should wear? We're fantabulous at dating advice.

How far are you going to go on the first date if you like him?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 01:52 PM (FNXDu)

214 I meant to add the one reason why this is true is that Jock Types tend to be more outgoing, have bigger personalities and usually excel in the back-slapping, glad-handing, "how ya doin', let me buy you a drink" day to day routine of the SALES world.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:47 PM (NFEMn)


To reward/motivate scientists in industry one genius suggested having a mass meeting with a marching band marching around them while fawning all over them.

I had to tell the genius that while that would doubtless thrill salesmen, scientists would just be embarrassed by the mindlessness on display. He might as well hand out gold stars.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:52 PM (Fao6g)

215 I think it only works with the 'best' schools and the 'best' parents according to some marketing formula.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 01:50 PM (MIKMs)


Not from what I've seen. It also works with graduates from Moo U.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:53 PM (Fao6g)

216 To reward/motivate scientists in industry one genius suggested having a mass meeting with a marching band marching around them while fawning all over them.

I had to tell the genius that while that would doubtless thrill salesmen, scientists would just be embarrassed by the mindlessness on display. He might as well hand out gold stars.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:52 PM (Fao6g)

Wow. MBA type I presume?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:54 PM (NWiLs)

217 this rally in houston with trump and modi is something. modi should be speaking in english, though.

i would have liked to see a state dinner for the indian p.m. the u.s. has been pivoting toward india and away from pakistan, that remnant of the cold war, and it's about time. india and the u.s. are natural allies.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 01:55 PM (Pg+x7)

218 Wow. MBA type I presume?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:54 PM (NWiLs)


Nah. Didn't have the brains for that. B.S. in business from "Close Cover Before Striking" University.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 01:55 PM (Fao6g)

219 213 My "not a date" takes place Thursday evening. Total awkwardness.


Oh, awesome! Have you asked the Horde what you should wear? We're fantabulous at dating advice.

How far are you going to go on the first date if you like him?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 01:52 PM (FNXDu)



Oh for PETE'S sake! I'm not going to date this gut. No way, no how. He's like a brother -in-law, or something.

I would appreciate advice on what to wear, however. Doc Martens and a flannel shirt?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:55 PM (TdMsT)

220 Here's something I've noticed recently, browsing through the local Real Estate sections of the paper---a lot of the sales reps are HOT young women of all ethnicities - and even the older ones are well-groomed and attractive enough.
There is a reason for this.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (NFEMn)

221 I would appreciate advice on what to wear, however. Doc Martens and a flannel shirt?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:55 PM (TdMsT)

And a chain wallet if you want to truly complete the look.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (NWiLs)

222 17 I'm not sure our border patrol system is the first example that comes to mind when I have negative thoughts about "government employees." I've had a lot more damage done by someone behind a desk than someone in a uniform.
Posted by: MW


I agree - - I'm very confused about this post.

The linked NYTimes article is a bunch of communist agitprop to delegitimize ICE, part of their attempt to erase the border between Mexico and the US, so as to overwhelm US voters with illegals who vote, thereby ensuring (if the plan goes as scheduled) a leftist US government forever.

The article is not about "hating US government employees" but rather about hating a specific agency -- trying to "otherize" them and make it acceptable, proper and normal for NY liberals to reject the existence of ICE (and thus of the border).

Sure, people in general hate lazy government office workers in general. But hating ICE is basically like hating the military. Should we hate soldiers in the Army because they'e "government employees"? The left would say "Yes." But sensible people pick and choose which category of employees are unlikeable.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (Q3dyo)

223
To reward/motivate scientists in industry one genius suggested having a mass meeting with a marching band marching around them while fawning all over them.

Is this before they drop the Zyklon B in the air vents?

"MBA" is to "R&D" as "bubonic plague" is to "14th century".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (7rVsF)

224 I'll follow Hadrians lead and throw some stuff on the grill...

Food thread in a couple hours......

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 01:57 PM (eaw6P)

225 Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer

https://youtu.be/fiRPBCiJg2c

Because "chap-hop" is a thing.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 01:57 PM (LxTcq)

226 I don't hate government employees. That's employeeism. I do hate my mailman though.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 01:57 PM (lQSMb)

227 20 I think ICE agents and other gov't employees are two way different things.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


Agree. The NYTimes article is being misinterpreted here.

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 01:58 PM (Q3dyo)

228 Nah. Didn't have the brains for that. B.S. in business from "Close Cover Before Striking" University.
=====

Hah, made me laugh. Most of the kids I see and talk to are BA business -- not even the 'science' cover.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 01:58 PM (MIKMs)

229 mole' is a collective noun


No, no, mole' is a delicious Mexican preparation of chicken as in Chicken Mole'. Ole'

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 01:58 PM (3XdZI)

230 226 I don't hate government employees. That's employeeism. I do hate my mailman though.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 01:57 PM (lQSMb)
-------
WeaselDog hates the mailman too.

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 01:58 PM (MVjcR)

231 I don't hate government employees. That's employeeism. I do hate my mailman though.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 01:57 PM (lQSMb)

I love my mailman. He's a good kid and the last young white male I've seen delivering mail in my area....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 01:59 PM (NFEMn)

232 I meant to add the one reason why this is true is that Jock Types tend to be more outgoing, have bigger personalities and usually excel in the back-slapping, glad-handing, "how ya doin', let me buy you a drink" day to day routine of the SALES world.

Posted by: JoeF.
________

Athletes are trained differently as children. They learn how to get tackled and get up for the next play, learn how to lose and get ready for the next game, and maybe most importantly, learn to keep quiet when the referee blows a call.

Academic achievers, on the other hand, get one bad grade in one quarter in high school and dwell on the permanence of that grade in their transcript and accept that, because of that single C in tenth-grade social studies, will not be valedictorian, disqualifying them from Stanford.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 01:59 PM (jh17W)

233 And here my mailman is one of the few I sympathize with, every once in a while when he is on vacation my cousin has the route

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (ZCEU2)

234 Is this before they drop the Zyklon B in the air vents?

"MBA" is to "R&D" as "bubonic plague" is to "14th century".
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (7rVsF)/i]

During one of a series of autos de fe (aka "layoffs") an older friend of mine was called to an unscheduled meeting. He went, with trepidation, and afterward said when he entered the room he looked up to see if there were gas coming from the air vents.

It turned out to be totally innocuous - that time - but he was limp with relief.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (Fao6g)

235 32 That's specifically ICE agents and Border Patrol who are hated, and that's by the left.
Posted by: Secular Blasphemy


Yes.

Why, then, are we chiming in, agreeing with our enemies?

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (Q3dyo)

236 Agree. The NYTimes article is being misinterpreted here.
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 01:58 PM (Q3dyo)

Which is just how the NYTs likes it.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (NFEMn)

237
And a chain wallet if you want to truly complete the look.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (NWiLs)


And multiple piercings?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (TdMsT)

238
WeaselDog hates the mailman too.

Well, she is a stone-cold killing machine...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (7rVsF)

239 MOLE is a many hued sauce made with love and it's variations are endless...

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 02:01 PM (eaw6P)

240 47
Harassment of Border Patrol and ICE is being committed by statists who want to import more statist voters to vote for bigger more intrusive government. Protecting the borders and controlling who's allowed in the country are actually legitimate functions of the federal government.

This is a bad example.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug


THIS ^^^

Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2019 02:01 PM (Q3dyo)

241 Academic achievers, on the other hand, get one bad grade in one quarter in high school and dwell on the permanence of that grade in their transcript and accept that, because of that single C in tenth-grade social studies, will not be valedictorian, disqualifying them from Stanford.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 01:59 PM (jh17W)

And get taught by their parents that getting that "C" is an existential failure on their part.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

242 FBI, IRS, CIA, DOJ, State, DOE, DoEd, Dof Ag, yah I hate them. Bunch of overpaid arrogant monsters who have the IQs of bedbugs.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at September 22, 2019 02:02 PM (Ju2mK)

243 212. vmom - she is a medical professional and works for either FDA or NIH.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 02:02 PM (80Uh3)

244 The government employees I hate are the ones putting unused bike lanes, roundabouts, and closing traffic lanes entirely for bikes.

F*ck those guys in particular.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:02 PM (Fao6g)

245 237
And a chain wallet if you want to truly complete the look.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:56 PM (NWiLs)


And multiple piercings?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (TdMsT)

Optional, though arm sleeve tats are a plus.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

246 I'm just sulking. If "not a date" is close enough to a date to induce total awkwardness you should at least be contemplating allowing over the bra vs. under the bra.

Otherwise where's the awkwardness?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 02:02 PM (FNXDu)

247
WeaselDog hates the mailman too.

Well, she is a stone-cold killing machine...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:00 PM (7rVsF)
----
And photogenic! I entered her in the Orvis Catalog cover photo contest.

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 02:03 PM (MVjcR)

248 >>> B.S. in business


No such thing.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:03 PM (1g7ch)

249 239 MOLE is a many hued sauce made with love and it's variations are endless...

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 02:01 PM (eaw6P)


And chocolate.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 02:04 PM (3XdZI)

250 Simpler premise.

Look around you right now. There is not ONE single thing in sight that is NOT somehow impacted by some Government action, or another.

Whether its regulated for safety? or taxed? or inspected? or illegal?

Government is too intrusive and powerful.

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 02:05 PM (NgKpN)

251 B.S. in business

No such thing.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:03 PM (1g7ch)


Well, I dunno about business. B.A. then.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:06 PM (Fao6g)

252 246 I'm just sulking. If "not a date" is close enough to a date to induce total awkwardness you should at least be contemplating allowing over the bra vs. under the bra.

==

not a date - wear a bra holster

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:06 PM (G546f)

253 Popping in to note that even of you are a public official, sovereign in your small domain and nominally their boss, some government bureaucrats act like they can boss you around.

Seen it all too many times.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 02:06 PM (u82oZ)

254 Athletes are trained differently as children. They learn how to get
tackled and get up for the next play, learn how to lose and get ready
for the next game, and maybe most importantly, learn to keep quiet when
the referee blows a call.
=====

Unfortunately, not any more. All is determined by the stats. See, any athlete with involved parents paying for private coaching. It is all about gaming the stats.

Some Bears lineman a few weeks ago when the only highlights of the game were by the defensive group said that he was tired of the stats and wanted to win.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 02:07 PM (MIKMs)

255 There are two things that have to be kept in mind at all times, unfortunately our society is always forgetting or trying to deny either one or the other:

1. Stereotypes of people by racial, ethnic, gender, religious, or professional groups exist for a reason; they are not invented out of thin air and have to have at least SOME truth to them or people would never believe them in the first place.

2. That said, NO stereotype ever automatically applies to ALL members of a group, and people still have to be judged as individuals.

In the bad old days of overt discrimination by race, ethnicity, etc., people forgot #2, which caused serious injustice to many individuals. But the present day PC crowd wants us to forget or deny #1 -- which forces people to deny reality and/or personal experience. Believe in #1 without #2 and you get official discrimination; believe in #2 without #1 and you generate the kind of resentment and lack of accountability that, eventually, leads back to #1.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 02:08 PM (9WuX0)

256 B.S. in business

No such thing.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:03 PM (1g7ch)

Well, I dunno about business. B.A. then.



Undergrad business is usually a B.S.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 02:08 PM (FNXDu)

257
And get taught by their parents that getting that "C" is an existential failure on their part.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)
----
I was pretty happy with C's. My parents thought it was at least better than calls from the police.

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 02:09 PM (MVjcR)

258 said that he was tired of the stats and wanted to win.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 02:07 PM (MIKMs)


It's gamblers and those free base phony games.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 02:09 PM (3XdZI)

259 Oh for PETE'S sake! I'm not going to date this gut. No way, no how. He's like a brother -in-law, or something.

I would appreciate advice on what to wear, however. Doc Martens and a flannel shirt?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 01:55 PM (TdMsT)

Short Skirt, and a Long Jacket, of course!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aDstrDMf0

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 02:10 PM (NgKpN)

260 Unfortunately, not any more. All is determined by the stats. See, any athlete with involved parents paying for private coaching. It is all about gaming the stats.

The local high school accepts anyone for the football team. No need to make the team; just show up, get a uni, and ride the pine. They must have 100 guys on the bench (literally), most of whom never set foot on the field.

Why? So no one suffers the heartbreak of psoriasis getting cut. Also, so they can put "football team" on their college applications.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:10 PM (Fao6g)

261 Damn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:10 PM (Fao6g)

262 LEO's are hated by a different set of people than other govt. employees. There are people who love big govt. and hate LEOs.

Posted by: goodluckduck at September 22, 2019 02:10 PM (V8zw+)

263 FBI, IRS, CIA, DOJ, State, DOE, DoEd, Dof Ag, yah I hate them. Bunch of overpaid arrogant monsters who have the IQs of bedbugs.
Posted by: I am not corey Booker at September 22, 2019 02:02 PM (Ju2mK)


Dept of Ag, Weights and Measures Division is the worst!

Complained about the Wal-Mart "One Hour Film Development" taking over three hours back in 1995. They said, "Maybe it's just the name of it." and blew me off.

Never got over that one.
It was literally worse than Branch Davidian fiasco.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (1g7ch)

264 257
And get taught by their parents that getting that "C" is an existential failure on their part.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)
----
I was pretty happy with C's. My parents thought it was at least better than calls from the police.
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 02:09 PM (MVjcR)

"A"s were shrugged off as what I was supposed to get. "B"s were not OK. A "C" might as well have been an "F."

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (NWiLs)

265 Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 02:08 PM (9WuX0)

The bad old days of discrimination?

You mean when Women and minorities were discriminated against?

Instead of today, when its White Males who are being discriminated against?

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 02:12 PM (NgKpN)

266 LEO's are hated by a different set of people than other govt. employees. There are people who love big govt. and hate LEOs.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 22, 2019 02:10 PM (V8zw+)


Criminals?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:13 PM (Fao6g)

267 262 LEO's are hated by a different set of people than other govt. employees. There are people who love big govt. and hate LEOs.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 22, 2019 02:10 PM (V8zw+)

I'm not a fan of either.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:13 PM (NWiLs)

268 "A"s were shrugged off as what I was supposed to get. "B"s were not OK. A "C" might as well have been an "F."
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (NWiLs)


The classroom component of driver training in HS was taught by the football coach. He was a great guy, and gave literally everyone in the class a B+.

Almost all of the class was thrilled: "I got a B+! Yay me!"

I was not pleased.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:15 PM (Fao6g)

269 They earned it after years of hard work.
And now they complain about contempt.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at September 22, 2019 02:15 PM (hYUjK)

270 I hope karate has taught KTY resilience
we'll see

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:16 PM (G546f)

271 Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 22, 2019 01:35 PM (UFLLM)

Depends on how you define success. I know many people who were not any of those things and I still consider them successful.

Posted by: Hoary Puffleg at September 22, 2019 02:16 PM (j0JAA)

272 270 I hope karate has taught KTY resilience
we'll see
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:16 PM (G546f)

Getting punched in the face and coming right back at your opponent is a good thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

273 Mole...

Chocolate is always good but depends on what you use it for. What you are making...

But i am in love with chocolate!

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 22, 2019 02:19 PM (eaw6P)

274 B.S. in business

No such thing.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:03 PM (1g7ch)

Well, I dunno about business. B.A. then.


Undergrad business is usually a B.S.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 02:08 PM (FNXDu)


I threw out "No such thing" because it's an oxymoron.

Sincerely doubt that any "B.S. in Business" requires an equivalent to a b.s. in physics or chemical engineering, or even horticulture for the matter.

Granted with limited experience with Big Moo U Background, all the business had to take the University 'math and science for the numerically challenged', hard science and engineering types were exempt because they already knew how to count on the fingers ("quantitative methods").

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:21 PM (1g7ch)

275 "A"s were shrugged off as what I was supposed to get. "B"s were not OK. A "C" might as well have been an "F."

Did we have the same parents?

I remember being chastised for one B (the rest were As) in high school... thought to myself: "My friends' parents would be doing handsprings if they got grades like this!"

And I felt... guilty.

Posted by: JQ at September 22, 2019 02:22 PM (gP/Z3)

276 count on the fingers ("quantitative methods").

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:21 PM (1g7ch)


I love quantitative math.
And my calculator.

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 02:23 PM (3XdZI)

277 Everybody waz kung-fu fighting. Those cats waz fast as lightning.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always sings... at September 22, 2019 02:23 PM (EgshT)

278
Mole...

Chocolate is always good but depends on what you use it for. What you are making...

But i am in love with chocolate!
Posted by: LoneRanger


Keep 6.02 x 10(exp 23) pounds around.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:23 PM (7rVsF)

279 276 count on the fingers ("quantitative methods").

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:21 PM (1g7ch)

I love quantitative math.
And my calculator.
Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 02:23 PM (3XdZI)

No math!

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 02:24 PM (yDjHx)

280 Almost all of the class was thrilled: "I got a B+! Yay me!"

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My kids were at a HS where they finally gave up on the GPA for valedictorian because class rankings were going out to ridiculous decimal points. Don't know who was more driven, parents or kids, but anything less than a weighted A+ in an AP class was unacceptable.

Upside of that hothouse environment was that a HS graduate was able to handle themselves either in college or trades.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 02:25 PM (MIKMs)

281 Getting punched in the face and coming right back at your opponent is a good thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

she never did tournament sparring, only training sparring, those are touch only in her dojo

she did a lot of tournament forms though, and there's lots of times she lost because the other guy was better, or she lost because the judges were biased - both types of loss are good experiences imo

It also teaches them to hold a good game face and a good poker face

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:27 PM (G546f)

282
Granted with limited experience with Big Moo U Background, all the
business had to take the University 'math and science for the
numerically challenged', hard science and engineering types were exempt
because they already knew how to count on the fingers ("quantitative
methods").
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Schools that had a BS for Business were difficult, even the 'moo u'. If someone graduated with an Economics degree, that said the math was too hard. In my darker moments, I am waiting for the BA in Engineering -- and I know it is on the horizon.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 02:29 PM (MIKMs)

283
What do you get when you play stupid games?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 22, 2019 02:29 PM (eMoBB)

284 Keep 6.02 x 10(exp 23) pounds around.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:23 PM (7rVsF)

no, that's just for Avocados

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:29 PM (G546f)

285
I don't hate government employees.

I just have no concern for them. If I was walking down the street and saw a business owner bearing a city codes enforcement officer to death, I'd keep walking and change the song on my iPhone to something more pleasant, to help me forget what I just saw.

They draw their living making people miserable and manipulate people's lives and livelihood. Why should I care if they live or die?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2019 02:29 PM (/LdrY)

286 I'm not sure it's government employees that people are being ginned up to hate. It's Trump government employees that are targeted by the left.

If we had Hillary, we'd be told how everyone should love the government.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm at September 22, 2019 02:29 PM (rp8wI)

287
Play Stupid Games,

Win Stupid Prizes.


That's my new motto, now.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 22, 2019 02:30 PM (eMoBB)

288 Beating*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2019 02:30 PM (/LdrY)

289 The bureaucrats that wasted billions on useless and unwanted infrastructure in this state bemoan the lack of money. They then lecture us on how we are hurting ourselves by not increasing our taxes for projects we do not want.
Hate is a good word but not adequate to express my undying contempt.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 22, 2019 02:32 PM (LGo6U)

290 The economy is so good, Frank Bank has a new job.
He is the Night Deposit Box at the Sperm Bank.

Posted by: DBCooper at September 22, 2019 02:32 PM (bttOm)

291 I can't stand the itching, but I really don't mind the swelling.

Posted by: Snart Fiffer, Dept. of Licensing for Application Permits at September 22, 2019 02:33 PM (++Jic)

292 In my darker moments, I am waiting for the BA in Engineering -- and I know it is on the horizon.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 02:29 PM (MIKMs)


LOL. I have a B.A. in chemistry, by virtue of taking sufficient courses in the humanities to qualify (literature minor).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:33 PM (Fao6g)

293 I think this is willowing but thank you to Misanthropic Humanitarian for the link to Best hikes in the National Parks in last night's thread.This is great info to have. I hike almost every Saturday with various Meetup groups based in Orange County - going everywhere from Devils Punchbowl in north LA county to Joshua Tree to Iron Mountain in San Diego County. If you're looking to get outside and want to meet some really nice people in the process I recommend checking it out in your area.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at September 22, 2019 02:33 PM (RcMUX)

294 bullshitClimate related. How much energy does it require to run a smartphone? Years ago I heard that interaction with a server was the equivalent of running a refrigerator.

If so we can use that to tell the punks "Turn off yer GD phone Gaia killers".

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 22, 2019 02:34 PM (dmoiP)

295 I see the Yankees and their media lapdogs are whining about umpires treating them like other baseball players.
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I'm watching the game on "multicultural" TV here that's in some Asian language (Hindi??) because I'm tired of hearing the Jays' announcers blow the Yankees.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2019 02:34 PM (Dh1wo)

296 My worst "civil servant" experience has been with military contractors,
specifically those who run housing on bases.


Posted by: pookysgirl, scrivener extraordinaire at September 22, 2019 01:03 PM (XKZwp)


When 'they' decided to 'privatize' military family housing I expected the bases to stop providing on base housing for PVT Snuffy and clan and have them find a place on the local market off base.

What they actually meant by 'privatize' was monopolize - to turn over operation of base housing to virtually sole source contractors and a long duration contract at that.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 02:34 PM (1g7ch)

297 Obama wiretapping Trump for entirely political
reasons is going to be the meme nutshell of the democrat party in a
hundred years. They will wear this eventually, even if no one ever goes
to prison. And sooner if everyone goes to prison.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 01:50 PM (LxTcq)


Like Boss Tweed, or Carpet-baggers?

yep. neither one remembered since they were Democrats, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 02:35 PM (xG/b0)

298 Keep 6.02 x 10(exp 23) pounds around.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:23 PM (7rVsF)


Shouldn't that be the number of chocolate bars, rather than their weight/mass?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:35 PM (Fao6g)

299 "You mean when Women and minorities were discriminated against?

Instead of today, when its White Males who are being discriminated against?"

Yes, which actually proves the point I was trying to make. The PC/woke crowd has no problem at all stereotyping whites, males, or white males without exception while at the same insisting that any stereotype of women, persons of color, gays, etc. constitutes double plus ungoodthink that cannot be tolerated.

And in a strange sort of way they are STILL stereotyping women, POCs, gays, etc. and assuming they all think alike; for example, when was the last time that the Left even bothered to acknowledge the existence of pro-life women, or conservative POC? Or when they do, they brand such persons as "traitors" to their race, gender, etc.?

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 02:35 PM (9WuX0)

300 I'm watching the game on "multicultural" TV here that's in some Asian language (Hindi??) because I'm tired of hearing the Jays' announcers blow the Yankees.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2019 02:34 PM (Dh1wo)


Pro tip: if you have MLB.TV, one option is to just have game sounds, no commentary at all.

Useful for when Jessica Mendoza is the commentator, or when the commentators decide to plumb the depths of stupidity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:37 PM (Fao6g)

301 160 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

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Then tell them to drop out of skool and fcuk like minks for the next 3 years.
That's what they want to do anyway.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 22, 2019 02:37 PM (dmoiP)

302 Now we have some Democrats calling for Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson to resign.

. . . .

During a HUD staff meeting in San Francisco, Carson was addressing the staff and dropped a comment regarding transgender individuals. He included the phrase "big hairy men" entering wome's shelters or using women's bathrooms.

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Did you ever hear such hatred?!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)

303 Dear government employees: If you want to be loved, buy a dog.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at September 22, 2019 02:44 PM (5fSr7)

304 MLB-TV?? Do I look like I'm made of money!?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2019 02:44 PM (Dh1wo)

305 Youth Climate Activists: Global Warming Damage Becomes Irreversible In 'Only 18 Months' Earth Unlivable In Three Years

....

What if you were retarded and didn't know you are retarded so you thought everyone else was mean beacause they didn't listen to your retarded statements?

And what if some people that weren't retarded gave you a microphone and said "Hey everyone, listen to this guy" even though they know you are a retard?

It's sad, the way they manipulate the mentally retarded. Cruel, really. A bit like telling a retard that their puppy is gonna die because mean men are coming to kill it and then watching the retarded retard cry and go crazy because they believe that someone is coming to kill their puppy.

So basically it's retards and sadists that enjoy upsetting retards.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2019 02:44 PM (/LdrY)

306 Border patrol hate is not employee hate. Those same people love the fbi, teachers, etc.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at September 22, 2019 02:46 PM (PGTk6)

307 They can't even count the number of laws that the bureaucracy makes or has made.

We need a EO from Trump telling every department to count the laws they've made and enforce and if they don't then deny them the ability to enforce any laws in the future.

We need some Law/Regulation Control and we need that overview at least so that redundant and unconstitutional laws/Regs can be eliminated.

This can only happen with a Republican President and Congress.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at September 22, 2019 02:46 PM (cxIsI)

308 We sang an old hymn, It is Well With my Soul, in church today.
It has a line "The trump will resound", I almost laughed.
How would thenorangemanbad will resound scan?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 22, 2019 02:46 PM (eAMlh)

309
Useful for when Jessica Mendoza is the commentator

When Geoff Blum, the Astros TV analyst, fell ill during a game, Julia Morales, the baseline babe, came up and took over for him. She never takes herself seriously, so she was better than the other JM.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:46 PM (7rVsF)

310 304 MLB-TV?? Do I look like I'm made of money!?
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2019 02:44 PM (Dh1wo)


$120 - well worth it! They have condensed games (circa 5-8 minutes each) shortly after a game finishes, so you can catch the gist of every game that day, if you want.

They do a good job on condensing them, too. It's not just the home runs, but some strikeouts and great plays in the field, along with some routine ones, so it kind of feels like a real game.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:47 PM (Fao6g)

311 We are down to 18 months?!?!? Shit I thought we had a solid decade before the erf blew up.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at September 22, 2019 02:47 PM (PGTk6)

312 #92 Sorry, late to the party but right on! Just read the nuts in the comments section. Psycho-city.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2019 02:48 PM (Dh1wo)

313 Carpet-baggers?

yep. neither one remembered since they were Democrats, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 02:35 PM (xG/b0)


Aah, think that carpet-baggers are yankees gone down south to help pillage reconstruct the rebels.

Posted by: Decomposing Historian at September 22, 2019 02:48 PM (3XdZI)

314 Border patrol hate is not employee hate. Those same people love the fbi, teachers, etc.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker
________

Teachers are heroes!

Norm Macdonald starts a routine thusly. It turns into a brutal takedown.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2019 02:48 PM (jh17W)

315 311 We are down to 18 months?!?!? Shit I thought we had a solid decade before the erf blew up.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at September 22, 2019 02:47 PM (PGTk6)

If Trump wins in 18 months, the mushroom cloud from proggie heads exploding will stretch out past the moon!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 02:49 PM (V2Yro)

316
We sang an old hymn, It is Well With my Soul, in church today.

Good hymn. Sad backstory.

Proof life is unfair: Protestants get Fanny Crosby, Catholics get Dan Schutte.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 02:50 PM (7rVsF)

317 Is government employee hatred another thing that neverTrumpers hyperventilating?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 22, 2019 02:50 PM (eAMlh)

318 311 We are down to 18 months?!?!? Shit I thought we had a solid decade before the erf blew up.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at September 22, 2019 02:47 PM (PGTk6)


"Twelve years, twelve years, do I hear ten years? Ten years? Ten years from the green hair over there. Do I hear five years, five years? Five years from the malodorous gentleman with the man bun over there. Eighteen months, eighteen months, do I hear eighteen months? Going once, going twice ..."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2019 02:50 PM (Fao6g)

319 "MLB-TV?? Do I look like I'm made of money!?"

For the remainder of the 2019 season/postseason, MLB-TV is offering its online streaming service at $27/month for all teams and $16/month if you only want to follow one team.

The catch is that MLB-TV observes local "blackouts", meaning that if you want to see games involving a team in your media market (e.g. you live in Chicago and follow the Cubs) you can't see the games live -- you have to wait until 90 minutes after the game ends to see it. However, if you have a favorite team and you live outside their media market (e.g., St. Louis Cardinals fan living in Arizona), the one-team MLB streaming deal will give you all their games live.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 02:51 PM (9WuX0)

320 Son's college:
B.S. Business = 9 hrs math; 9 hrs science
B.A. Business = 9 hrs for.lang.; 3 hrs math; 6 hrs sci.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 02:51 PM (gzG43)

321 Nood

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2019 02:51 PM (nDe2U)

322 Erf is 5 billions years old. Yet an autistic Swede can pinpoint within months when it will become uninhabitable for humans. And nobody calls these people out for this obviously insane proclamation. .

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at September 22, 2019 02:52 PM (PGTk6)

323 I think if I had some kid tell me that the earth was dying that I'd take a sledgehammer and beat their car to pieces right in front of them and when they started screaming I'd say "It's destroying the planet, it must be stopped".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2019 02:52 PM (FEuSI)

324 I worked at Focus on the Family in the 90s. The papers would publish lies about us, the USPS would refuse to send out our newsletters, we would get thrown out of restaurants if we forgot to remove our name tags, our cars (which had parking stickers) would be vandalized, and our campus was egged every weekend. Someone even plastered downtown with "Lion Chow" posters, referring to the days when Christians were thrown to the lions.

Our crime? We were supposedly intolerant. Because our mission was to support the health of families.

So this persecution of decency has been going on for awhile.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2019 02:52 PM (i/wJA)

325 Can't find where I saw it but it was a video clip of Crazy Uncle Joe saying male prisoners who identify as female should be hosed in female prisons. If so Crazy Uncle Joe is crazier than I thought.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 02:52 PM (ZCEU2)

326 What exactly going to happen in the next 18 months to kill us all?
Will that mean the Clintons will disappear?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 22, 2019 02:53 PM (eAMlh)

327 I'm an engineer for a big evil aerospace company . I deal directly with our gov't customers including NASA and the DoD. There's always a few numb-nutz but I have to say some of the smartest, most dedicated folks I've had the pleasure of working for were gubmint. They're not all bad and they're certainly not as depicted by Hollywood on shows like Big Bang Theory. I work with people like them - but not as extreme as the characters depicted.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at September 22, 2019 02:55 PM (RcMUX)

328 Try being a state govt employee who view has always been an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. And if they're paying you at least what you started out at, you're getting an honest day's pay.

Your fellow employees not only resent it, they also take advantage of it. And no matter how good a guy your super is, the most he can do is say thanks.

Posted by: teej at September 22, 2019 02:55 PM (EVeeU)

329 ORANGE MAN NOOD

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 02:57 PM (G546f)

330 Son's college:
B.S. Business = 9 hrs math; 9 hrs science
B.A. Business = 9 hrs for.lang.; 3 hrs math; 6 hrs sci.
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 02:51 PM (gzG43)


That is about what my B.S. required to NOT be in math/science/engineering.

With about 3-1/2 years required in math/science/engineering there was no such thing as a four year degree (unless you somehow slipped in an extra semester in there somewhere).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 03:13 PM (1g7ch)

331 Can't find where I saw it but it was a video clip of Crazy Uncle Joe saying male prisoners who identify as female should be hosed in female prisons. If so Crazy Uncle Joe is crazier than I thought.
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 02:52 PM (ZCEU2)


Wouldn't have a better chance of being hosed in an all male prison?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2019 03:14 PM (1g7ch)

332 The acronym for the union that represents my local DMV employees very nearly spells out Ass Fuck Me, so that doesn't help.

Posted by: Anotheranon at September 22, 2019 03:17 PM (ss6yq)

333 With about 3-1/2 years required in math/science/engineering there was no
such thing as a four year degree (unless you somehow slipped in an
extra semester in there somewhere).
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BT -- The only way I know for kids to finish a BSE on time is AP HS credits and summer school for arts (mine did it at local junior college).

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 22, 2019 03:41 PM (MIKMs)

334 I'm a recovering gov employee. I got my Certified Public Manager the last year and it convinced me never to go back. It is just a bunch of narcissistic do nothings that only work to protect their positions. I thought I was serving, preparing, and protecting the citizens. Silly me. That is not what the gov is for.

Posted by: Hazchic at September 22, 2019 03:53 PM (rD2St)

335 Whatever. Libertarians convinced Americans to work in public service was to be a scumbag, so we abandoned that space to the left. Now we're surprised by the pervasive nature of the leftist? deep state.

I don't hate Govt Employees, I hate libertarians.

Posted by: Quilp at September 22, 2019 06:35 PM (Bf3hj)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-22-2019

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National Library, Helsinki, Finland


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), crackpots, crockpots, despots, tosspots, sexpots, and stinkpots. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I would totally wear to Andy Warhol's barbecue.



Pic Note

Today's library is a repeat from 2017, but I thought it worth revisiting because I found some better pics. For example, this one. That ceiling is spectacular.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

HAPPEN, MISHAP and HAPHAZARD all derive from ‘hap’—an old word for chance or fortune, borrowed into English from Old Norse sometime in the 12th century. ‘Hap’ is also the origin of HAPPY, which originally referred to people or events that appeared to be blessed with good fortune.

Mayhap he's right. Perhaps.


And speaking of words, 'ette Miley the Duchess e-mailed in a bleg a couple three days ago:

Some time ago, there was a word that appeared on the book thread. I can't for the life of me remember it, but it's a very useful word that means someone who gets outraged on behalf of someone else who has not asked for support. It may be a verb, the act of doing this. May have been of French origin. I was hoping you might recall it.

Also, a decade ago, my stepdaughter emailed a word to me that was especially delightful. It means "requited love." I've completely forgotten what it was, and so has she. I've bingled without any luck. Any idea what it is?

My memory is so poor, I am drawing a complete blank on the first one. And on the second, I Googled for the question 'what is the opposite of unrequited love' and 'synonyms for requited love', but I doubt any of the results were the word she's looking for. So I'm hoping the Horde can help out here.




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The 1519 Project

Last months, the progressive advocates masquerading as journalists announced a new program to try to drag Democrats across the finish line ahead of the Republicans in 2020. It's called the 1619 Project, and what it does is attempt to rewrite history to portray slavery is pretty much a white-on-black affair that was invented on U.S. soil in 1619, rather than endemic to almost every human culture that has ever existed. Therefore, we're all a bunch of white supremacist scum, especially Donald Trump, so vote for all of the Democrats in 2020. Because racism.

Here is an excellent article that pretty much blows the tendentious history promulgated by the 1619 Project to smithereens. Also this one.

What you won't learn from the 1619 Project is that one of the things the Europeans did in the New World was to exterminate a cannabalistic, mass murdering cult, starting a century earlier, in 1519.

I'm talking about the Aztecs, of course, and whatever you think about Hernando Cortez, he did the world a favor by eliminating them as a regional threat. Personally, I believe that God frequently uses evil men to stop other men who are even more evil, so the end result is a net increase in human happiness:

Cortez will never satisfy a 21st century standard of human rights, and may not even be an exemplary leader. Nor did he set out to liberate anyone. Yet, regardless of his motives in Mexico, the outcome must be conceded: Cortez toppled a mass-murdering cult with the assistance of the oppressed.

God draws straight with crooked lines.

I've heard that in the final assault on Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital, Cortez' forces constituted a tiny fraction of the assembled armies. It wasn't just some evil white guys murdering a bunch of brown people. The Aztecs were hated by pretty much everyone else in the region, and they wanted them gone as much as Cortez did.

You can read about Cortez in a book written in 1855, Hernando Cortez: Makers of History, available for free on Gutenberg. Also Amazon. And another moron mentioned The Memoirs of the Conquistador Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Written by Himself Containing a True and Full Account of the Discovery and Conquest of Mexico and New Spain (in 2 volumes), also available for free.

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Who Dis:

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Moron Recommendations

63 Reading Nothing Lost, by John Gregory Dunne, who wrote True Confessions. It's sort of a John Grisham courtroom novel, told from several viewpoints. One of his narrators, Max Cline (a self-described "queer Jew"), even mentions Grisham's novels at one point.

I was really bored by True Confessions -- maybe the movie with DeNiro was better -- but this is at least entertaining.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (4c+5M)

According to the Amazon blurb, Nothing Lost plots the course of:

A grisly racial murder in what news commentators insist on calling “the heartland.” A feeding frenzy of mass media and seamy politics. An illicit love affair with the potential to wreck lives. In his grandly inventive last novel, John Gregory Dunne orchestrated these elements into a symphony of American violence, chicanery, and sadness.In the aftermath of Edgar Parlance’s killing, the small prairie town of Regent becomes a destination for everyone from a sociopathic teenaged supermodel to an enigmatic attorney with secret familial links to the worlds of Hollywood and organized crime. Out of their manifold convergences, their jockeying for power, publicity or love, Nothing Lost creates a drama of magnificent scope and acidity.

I remember seeing the movie adaption of True Confessions when it first came out (1981?). I hated it, but now I think that was because I didn't really understand the story. It's not about the murder so much as it's about the relationship between the two brothers. Anyway, TC was inspired, at least in part, by the gruesome Black Dahlia murder case, which is one of Los Angeles' oldest unsolved murders.

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In my kid's High School English class, they were assigned the book "102 Minutes." Knowing the bent of public school instruction, I was leery and skeptical of what the book might conclude. In fact, it turned out to be a decent recounting of the unfolding tragedy-cum-murder, written very much in the form of the post-analysis investigations presented as a novel.

It pulled no punches about people still escaping the building having to dodge those poor unfortunates from above the flames who chose something besides a fiery death. I hadn't realized that there were so many....

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 11, 2019 11:08 AM (/2X2F)

I can't imagine what it must be like to actually want to jump out of a building knowing you're going to die when you hit the pavement -- because if you don't, you'll be roasted alive.

102 Minutes: The Unforgettable Story of the Fight to Survive Inside the Twin Towers is history told by the eyewitnesses:

Of the millions of words written about this wrenching day, most were told from the outside looking in. New York Times reporters Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn draw on hundreds of interviews with rescuers and survivors, thousands of pages of oral histories, and countless phone, e-mail, and emergency radio transcripts to tell the story of September 11 from the inside looking out.

$11.99 on Kindle.

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60 I'm currently reading David Price's Love and Hate in Jamestown: John Smith, Pocahontas and the Start of a New Nation. I'm only about 5 chapters in, but so far, this has been an exceedingly page-turning book. It reads as an unbelievable action novel as it chronicles John Smith's 1606/1607 expedition to the New World, as commissioned by a London company. It's especially interesting the internal politics, if you will, of the various friendly and not-friendly tribes in the VA area. Indians were not at all "the earth belongs to everyone and no one owns it," peaceful go-alongs. They were vicious, barbaric and territorial. It's very interesting to read how Smith was trying to outthink them, as they were trying to outthink him on strategic matters. So far, it has been very intriguing.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (JoUsr)

This story starts in 1606, when

...appproximately 105 British colonists sailed to America, seeking gold and a trade route to the Pacific. Instead, they found disease, hunger, and hostile natives. Ill prepared for such hardship, the men responded with incompetence and infighting; only the leadership of Captain John Smith averted doom for the first permanent English settlement in the New World.The Jamestown colony is one of the great survival stories of American history, and this book brings it fully to life for the first time. Drawing on extensive original documents, David A. Price paints intimate portraits of the major figures from the formidable monarch Chief Powhatan, to the resourceful but unpopular leader John Smith, to the spirited Pocahontas, who twice saved Smith’s life. He also gives a rare balanced view of relations between the settlers and the natives and debunks popular myths about the colony. This is a superb work of history, reminding us of the horrors and heroism that marked the dawning of our nation.

$13.99 on Kindle, but there are some used hardcover copies for as low as $5.18 and the shipping is free.

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Books By Morons

Moron author A.H. Lloyd discreetly pimped one of his own books in the thread last week (see below). It's his first novel, and it actually sounds kind of interesting:

For a more accessible version of Beowulf, allow me to suggest Battle Office Wolf, by yours truly.

Unlike other adaptations, this one is scrupulously true to the source material, though I do truncate the story somewhat by focusing the tale on Heorot.


I wrote it following the Seamus Haney verse translation (annotated edition) so there are references to Geats, Franks, etc. I think putting the story in a sci-fi/horror setting captures the original spirit of the tale and allows modern readers to better relate to the sense of fear and isolation the characters felt.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

Amazon says:

Hart Station [see what he did there? -OM] was designed to be the galaxy’s premier research facility, an idyllic community focused on innovation and dedicated to improving humanity. Yet within days of becoming operational, its promise was destroyed. A series of grisly attacks has left the station’s survivors paralyzed with fear, trapped far from home and wondering who – or what – is methodically hunting them down. Just when hope is lost, when it seems their forlorn distress signal will never be answered, a ship will arrive to save them – a ship carrying Battle Officer Wolf [see what he did there? -OM].

Battle Officer Wolf is a bold retelling of the Beowulf epic. Inspired by the criticisms of legendary author and scholar J.R.R. Tolkien, Battle Officer Wolf brings readers a fresh perspective on the the elemental horror and shining heroism of this timeless story.

Considering that Battle Officer Wolf is only $2.99, why are you all not buying yourselves copies?

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Moron author Alexander Hellene has just come out with a new novel, the first in a new series. He tells me:

It’s a sword-and-planet [adventure] in the vein of Edgar Rice Burroughs and Jack Vance crossed with Thundercats and Masters of the Universe with a non-preachy faith-based element.

The Amazon blurb says:

They killed his father, oppress his people, and threaten them with extinction... and one of them is his best friend.

The Growlers rule their corner of the planet Yxakh with an iron fist, intent on driving the human refugees from their land. They almost did eight years ago, killing Garrett’s father in the process. Only their guns, and lots of them, keep the Growlers at bay. Now a young man, Garrett burns for revenge, but finds it hard to reconcile this hatred given that his best friend is a Growler youth named Ghryxa.

Desperate to cleanse his land of the invaders, the Growlers’ High Lord dispatches his trusted heir on a mission to acquire the humans’ superior weaponry. The Earthlings barely won the last war... but this time the High Lord will leave nothing up to chance.

The Last Ancestor: The Swordbringer Book 1 is available on Kindle for $3.99.


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'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle & Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

This homicide case featured aristocrats as far as the eye could see, between the Russians and the Spaniards—and Acton, of course, who was supposedly investigating the others but seemed a little too deferential, for Doyle’s taste. Why wasn’t her husband moving in on the killer? And why did she have the sense that she was standing on the outside, peering into a world where there were no laws and no explanations—only birthrights, forged in ancient blood.

The Kindle edition of Murder in the Blood ia $4.99. Also in paperback.

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Moron author Declan Finn is in the process of releasing a 3-part series, Too Secret Service:

Wayne Williams is a Secret Service agent sentenced to the outer darkness because his family pissed off the wrong president.

Catherine Miller is a CIA assassin who specializes in becoming anyone.

When terrorists threaten to nuke every spot on the President's world tour, they are both called in to handle the threat.

To stop World War Three, they must travel from Ireland to Rome to Israel. They will have to face terrorist gunmen, professional assassins and nuclear suicide bombers... and perhaps even a threat from within.

But first, they must survive each other.

The first installment of the series will be released on Sept. 24th. Part 2 will be released on Oct. 1st, followed by the third part on Oct. 8th.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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1 Good morning bibliophiles!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

2 Finished re-reading the Heirs of Alexandria series by by Mercedes Lackey. And now re-reading the Acorna series by by Anne McCaffrey. I will probably only read the first two books and move on to something else.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:02 AM (ZCEU2)

4 Could not get the page to go to the bottom at first.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

5 Morning all!

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 09:03 AM (uDh3k)

6 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope veryone had a great week of reading and book activity.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 09:05 AM (bmdz3)

7 Slaves to Intellectual Fashion: 1619 The New York Times doesn't care to know about history.

Neither does AOC or any Democrat for that matter.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:05 AM (mpXpK)

8 That ceiling is spectacular
Just slowly whittling at Napoleonic warfare With Eagles to Glory by John Gill

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:06 AM (ZCEU2)

9 The other funny (and yeah, I mean laughable) part of the 1619 bit is that there have been approx. 3,873 "1619 Projects" over the last few years.

It's a case of "OMG, Trump is making inroads into the black vote!!!!"

It'll be long forgotten by Nov of next year...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:06 AM (6qErC)

10 You could never Finnish that many books!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (438dO)

11 Is that Keith Richards? I didn't know he could read.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (VNfwt)

12 Love and Hate in Jamestown: John Smith, Pocahontas and the Start of a New Nation.

I'll have see if my library has that. $14 for the Kindle is out of my price range.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

13 Currently reading George Marshall: Defender of the Republic by David Roll.

Marshall is such a towering figure in American history. He is particularly interesting to me due to ties to the Virginia Military Institute and his retirement home in Leesburg, Virginia.

Interestingly, I don't think many men get the opportunities he had these days. I suppose the closest in modern days would be Petraeus or Mattis. Actually, no. Neither managed to accomplish as much. I wonder if the world has changed so much that no single person has the chance to do so much without being pilloried on a regular basis for mistakes large and small.

Anyway, I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Rob at September 22, 2019 09:08 AM (jA8/d)

14 Just finished Joseph Wambaugh's "Finnegan's Week" on the Kindle. I hadn't read any of his stuff for years, but I found this to be laugh out loud funny with some great dialog and interesting characters.

Hoping to start on Levin's Press book this week, but...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 22, 2019 09:09 AM (BiNEL)

15 Is that Keith Richards? I didn't know he could read.
Posted by: Blutarski at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (VNfwt)


Keef's pretty fucking smart and must have the physiology of a steam engine to not sound like a blithering idiot after massive drug ingestion like Ozzie.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:12 AM (y7DUB)

16 The library was the one place I knew had air conditioning in summer.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 09:13 AM (EZebt)

17 The library was the one place I knew had air conditioning in summer"

Nowadays free needles/disposal/pron...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:14 AM (6qErC)

18 I used to be a big Mercedes Lackey fan as a young thing. Valdemar, Oathblood, the Diana Tregarde books, and her various shared world stories. Her Elemental Masters series began so well with "The Fire Rose", but by the time she wrote "Phoenix and Ashes" she was getting a bit preachy.

Anybody still reading Lackey?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:14 AM (kQs4Y)

19 I read Fredric Brown's Fabulous Clipjoint on a trip to Chicago this week. A fascinating murder mystery set in some gritty post-WWII Chicago neighborhoods that are now much more gentrified. Only $1.99 on Kindle. Here's the Amazon description:

The Fabulous Clipjoint, first published in 1947, is a noir thriller and Edgar Award-winner by master mystery and science fiction author Fredric Brown (1906-1972). The book centers on a young man's search for the killer or killers of his father, which the police have dismissed as a random murder in a Chicago back-alley. The Fabulous Clipjoint, Brown's first full-length novel, is the first book in a series of 7 featuring the nephew and uncle team of detectives Ed and Ambrose Hunter.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at September 22, 2019 09:15 AM (FXjhj)

20 I read Song of the Orphans by Daniel Price. This is the sequel to Flight of the Silvers in The Silvers series. The book continues the fascinating plot of apocalypse survivors trying to save their second world from collapse, which is coming in just over four years. A lot of action set in a parallel Earth, with unique characters. Now to wait a year or two for the concluding work in this trilogy.

I also read an interesting, little novel, The Dreamers by Karen Thompson Walker. A virus infects an isolated college town in California causing victims to fall into a deep, long sleep. Fast-paced, interesting characters an exciting end. I'll be looking for Walker's first novel, The Age of Miracles.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (xb43q)

21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)

22 Read Latest in Big Lake series by Nick Russell

Fun series of books about a small town sheriff in the mountains of S Arizona.

I like series like these as you get to know the characters, even the bit players. Over time you make a connection with a few character and feel a connection with their lives and/or tribulations.

I do think too many of these cut and paste from backstories too many times thinking that someone just picked up the series at book #4 or #6. There must be some research into way this is done our it would not be a common occurrence in series about a person or a place.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (JFO2v)

23 I watched the "skinny house" video on the ONT. Did anyone else notice the lack of space for books? Do younger people even read them?

I think I'm lucky that I won't be in this world all that much longer.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:18 AM (VaN/j)

24 14

$0.99 in Kindle

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:18 AM (JFO2v)

25 Do younger people even read them?"

What? One "reads" phones.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (6qErC)

26 In the midst of Touched By Fire, by Louise Barnett, a biography of George Armstrong Custer. It covers his entire life, including his exploits in the Civil War, Washita, Little Bighorn, as well as the campaign by his wife to keep his memory alive in the many years she outlived him (he died aged 36). It is pretty detailed and not too PC.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (fe8qf)

27 21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)

survival of the fittest!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (JFO2v)

28 Seeing that post about Joseph Wambaugh reminded me it has been a long time sine I saw the movie The Black Marble. One wonders if the book is any good. The Kindle version if $8. The DVD is $140. Must be a collector's item.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (mpXpK)

29 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Love and Hate in Jamestown is now in my amazon cart. Thank you--it looks fascinating!

I've been all over the place with reading, finishing nothing. I am enjoying Boris Johnson's Life of London, recommended here. It's a nice, witty introduction to historically important figures in London, leading me to want to read more about some of them and increase my knowledge of history.

And I just started Rediscover Catholicism, given to me by a friend who attends the Catholic church I've been going to lately. So far I am finding it inspiring, and after I finish it, I should know if Catholicism is my path, or not.

Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (OX9vb)

30 Hey everyone!

Thanks for the plug, OM. I'm really working on shameless self-promotion. I was on base Friday and a major was telling me about a friend who loves reading sci-fi, so without interrupting her I pull out a copy of Man of Destiny, signed it and handed it to her.

"Here, give this to him. Let me know what he thinks."



Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (cfSRQ)

31 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx, whatever it is, he's against it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (HaL55)

32 18 Anybody still reading Lackey?



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:14 AM (kQs4Y)

I read all of her stuff. Currently waiting for the last few Elemental Masters books to come down in price on the Kindle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:21 AM (mpXpK)

33 I wonder if the world has changed so much that no single person has the chance to do so much without being pilloried on a regular basis for mistakes large and small.
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I've wondered about that also. Is it that society has grown so large and complex that distinguished individuals are simply lost in the culture, or is it that society simply does not produce them anymore?

There was a time when almost every city produced notable genuinely notable local figures. That doesn't seem to happen these days.

"Towering cities and clamorous teeming populations have conspired to make unknown great men an American tradition." -- Spied on the bathroom wall of George's Middle East Delicatessen, Atlanta Ga.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:22 AM (CDGwz)

34

That's NOT FINNISH, there is nowhere to park yer arse Valteri,or do you lot just swan aboot admiring each other pants,that's COLD man...Oooh yes it's Finland ya ,free Wodka @ the V section.......

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 09:22 AM (5IHGB)

35 Read another Fannie Flagg novel this week -- "Welcome to the World, Baby Girl!" It's another of her Elwood Springs, Missouri stories, this time, about a star female TV reporter (early/mid 1970s) with a mysterious past, and her distant relatives in Elwood Springs, who intervene during a crisis point in her life. What struck me about this book was how Flagg portrayed the network news brass, even then, as being absolutely ruthless assholes who didn't care about people living in flyover country (although she didn't use that term) or what they aired, as long as it got ratings. Very much like today's clickbait oriented internet....

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 09:23 AM (9WuX0)

36 I have a question for any Waugh fans. I've been reading some of his letters, and it's clear he liked mysteries. There's even an exchange between him and Erle Stanley Gardner.

But he doesn't seem to have written about them. In the Ronald Knox biography, he specifically begs off discussing Knox's own mysteries, pretty much classing them with the crosswords.

That's odd. Knox himself wrote about mysteries a lot, so did GKC, of course, and almost all other fans. Eliot, Barzun, the list is long. Anyone know anything more about that.

BTW: Waugh's bio of Knox has a frontispiece by Arthur Pollen. He was the son of the naval fire control inventor.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:23 AM (VaN/j)

37 *waves at all the pretty bookists*

Truncated visit this morning, still much moving into the lair to do.



God invented drugs to keep Keith Richards from taking over the world.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:23 AM (FNXDu)

38 Do younger people even read them?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:18 AM (VaN/j)

I only have my own children as examples, so I don't know. But they both like to read (they are 30-ish), and prefer paper books to electronic, though they use both.

Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (OX9vb)

39 My book group is making me very happy by taking on Tom Jones. Fielding was a much earlier writer than Dickens, for example, and I think this came out before magazines were available to serialize things (I think printing presses were just churning out single page broadsheets). That said he produces some of the longest sentences this side of Proust that are just chock full of hilarious commentary. I think he was influenced by Cervantes into just injecting himself in the narrative whenever he fucking wanted to that must have made contemporaries go WTF. I think when the movie came out that it was just at the beginning of the sexual revolution when all Whoreyweird wanted to obsess about was fucking before porn said why just hint at it. My point is that this book got pigeonholed as being about sex when it's really much much more.

Whoreyweird misleading everyone; that doesn't happen now, right?

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (y7DUB)

40 We sent our grand-nephew a hardcover copy of "Treasure Island", unabridged, with all the NC Wyeth illustrations. (I didn' know there were any abridged versions. It seems sinful.) He turned six yesterday and we got a call from Idaho. There was this little boy voice on the line shouting "Thank you! Thank you! Pirates!!! We're gonna read it today!!"

Apparently, he REALLY likes pirates and adventure stories.

I am so pleased. Treasure Island was one of the books that set me on a life of reading. I'm hoping it does the same for him. Also, I
hope the family builds some wonderful memories reading it together.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (bmdz3)

41 Yes children still read books if their parents get them started on it early. I work in a library and get to see the kids who are engaged in something other than 'screen time'.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 09:25 AM (Xhp1L)

42 21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)
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Survival of the fittest, I suppose.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (VaN/j)

43 Apparently, he REALLY likes pirates and adventure stories."

We'll fix that!

/US Dept of (mis)Education

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (6qErC)

44 I've been slacking off reading lately *hangs head in shame*

I just started Ryan Swanson's "The Strenuous Life: Theodore Roosevelt and the Making of the American Athlete". How little Teedie, a wheezy, cosseted, bespectacled ponce in velvet knickers, became a freight train of a man.

I love all things Teddy and the author has a fun breezy style.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (kQs4Y)

45 Good morning all - not much accomplished, reading-wise this week, between ripping up parts of the garden, and working on the current WIP. I think the book that I dipped into the most this week was a massive tome on travel in Victorian America - "Wet Britches and Muddy Boots" by John H. White. Sounds dull, but it's not, as it covers about every form of travel there was, from steamboats to city trolley-cars. I found a nearly new copy for cheap some years ago when doing research for my Harvey Girl novel, "Sunset and Steel Rails." It saves time and trouble, having my own personal reference library for things...

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (xnmPy)

46 31 As said often, Marxism done right

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (ZCEU2)

47 27 21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)

survival of the fittest!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (JFO2v)
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You beat me to it. Curses!

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (VaN/j)

48 You want settlers?

I am currently reading "Tales of Yesterday's Florida Keys" by John Viele. It is a collection of stories of people and events in the Florida Keys from the first natives up to the opening of the Overseas Highway in 1927.

Tough people on those little islands and you never want to book passage on a mail boat in the 1800's. Also, hurricanes have been wiping out the Bahamas and the Keys for centuries without any help from the Globull Warmerists.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (Z+IKu)

49 God invented drugs to keep Keith Richards from taking over the world.

We all should be concerned about what type of world we're going to leave for him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 22, 2019 09:28 AM (HaL55)

50 In other news, I'm continuing to re-read Hugh Thomas' book on the Spanish Civil War and have found the stupidest sentence ever written about it.

I like Thomas' detail, but the guy is an utter idiot. Without further ado...

"The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

REALLY? They couldn't???

This is the great weakness of Thomas. He writes as though "libertarian communism" was a proven economic system and it's failure left the entire world thunderstruck.

It's almost touching how he notes that *despite* radical reorganization of industry, constant political intrigue and random expropriations, the industrial production of the Republic actually - get this, brace yourself - DECLINED.

No kidding. This shocks him. He naturally blames lack of foreign investment and supply issues, never noting that the foreign invested dried up because shareholders didn't want their investments "collectivized" and that supply issues emerged because the syndicalization of the industries didn't bother to account for the cost of raw materials.

Gosh, if only "true anarchism" were actually tried, it might work, huh?

Meanwhile, Nationalist Spain pretty much left things alone - though they did return land to the original owners and naturally execute people they didn't like (it was the fashion of the time).

Anyway, a lot of the detailed accounts of battles is interesting to me, but whenever Thomas starts in on economics, his stupidity shines through like a mighty beacon in the night.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)

51 "Freight train of a man" is a nice phrase.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:29 AM (FNXDu)

52 Each of the little Neradas has over 200 books in their possession. Zero video games and no cell phones. They each were thought to read before school age just like their parents were.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 09:29 AM (fe8qf)

53 I love all things Teddy and the author has a fun breezy style.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (kQs4Y)


Teddy owned Airedales which made him a superior human being.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:30 AM (y7DUB)

54 On the set of Pirates of the Carribean, Keith Richards wore the same outfit he wore in 1790.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 09:31 AM (LxTcq)

55 You can get the Disney version of treasure island on DVD for $10, Not too bad but a little pricey since most DVDs are selling for around $5 now. But Disney has always been high.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:31 AM (mpXpK)

56 51 "Freight train of a man" is a nice phrase.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:29 AM (FNXDu)

Consensus was that Teddy sucked all the oxygen out of the room.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:31 AM (kQs4Y)

57 That should read "taught to read"

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 09:32 AM (fe8qf)

58 Lurk, lurk, lurk...

Posted by: None shall pass at September 22, 2019 09:32 AM (JdcHc)

59 "The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

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That's a doozy, alright. Sounds like Baldrick explaining why one of his cunning plans didn't work.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 09:33 AM (+y/Ru)

60 Beowulf, Heorot, science fiction setting? The bookend to go with Lloyd's retelling is The Legacy of Heorot by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Steven Barnes.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4oaw5l5

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:33 AM (QSzhg)

61 Hmmm. Read a book or read AOS?

"Your screen time is up 57% this week."

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 09:34 AM (tDzWD)

62 39 My book group is making me very happy by taking on Tom Jones....
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (y7DUB)
________

Chesterton's take:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h7dq7p

To be fair to the movie, that is part of what the book was known for, and like Moby Dick, it's not really possible to make a reasonable length film about it. But it is notable that, contrary to the impression Richardson gives, it was standard reading for girls. At least, that's what Jane Austin says.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:34 AM (VaN/j)

63 And I just started Rediscover Catholicism, given to
me by a friend who attends the Catholic church I've been going to
lately. So far I am finding it inspiring, and after I finish it, I
should know if Catholicism is my path, or not.



Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (OX9vb)

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My wife really enjoys Matthew Kelly's books. She has that one, but hasn't read it yet. It's in her stack, though.

We're both converts, and after entering the Church, both of us underwent sort of a 'second conversion' where our faith became deeper and more meaningful. Conversion is the beginning of the road, not the end.

She likes Kelly, I like Waugh. If you have questions, feel free to email me, address at my website. I was an RCIA sponsor a few years ago, so I might be able to help.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:35 AM (cfSRQ)

64 Gee everyone has quit posting on the EMT. Wonder which one they are posting on now.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

65 I know this is the book thread and not the movie thread but a friend of mine has a rather literary four word movie review:

Ad Astra = Ad Nauseam

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (+y/Ru)

66 Miley, first word, Fremschamen. Prob spelled it wrong, tho.

Don't know the second word for requited love. Wish I did, too.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (zwcGu)

67 Tough people on those little islands and you never
want to book passage on a mail boat in the 1800's. Also, hurricanes have
been wiping out the Bahamas and the Keys for centuries without any help
from the Globull Warmerists.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (Z+IKu)

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Wait, you mean history didn't begin with television???

It's interesting to look back at the various storms and disasters that we can't even grasp. There are references to "The Great Storm of X Year" and all we have are tales of villages being washed away, ships lost, but no one has any real clue as to the true extent of the damage.

Because death was always close in those days.

I do wish they'd make up their minds about what the "true" temperature of the earth should be.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:39 AM (cfSRQ)

68 Read Where the Crawdads Sing this week, by Delia Owens. I believe it is her first book.

Amazing writing, the descriptions of North Carolina's coastline/swamp area really draw you in. It is a murder mystery, somewhat written in flashbacks and flashforwards until you get the whole story.

It was a quick, diverting read.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (zwcGu)

69 Eris, not read anything by Mercedes Lackey in ages. The Adept series was the last I read.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (QSzhg)

70 50 In other news, I'm continuing to re-read Hugh Thomas' book on the Spanish Civil War and have found the stupidest sentence ever written about it.

I like Thomas' detail, but the guy is an utter idiot. Without further ado...

"The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

REALLY? They couldn't???
....
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)
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One might have checked how revolutionary reorganizations worked for the French and Russian fleets when they tried it.

There's an Orwell essay in which he pretty much admits - reluctantly* - that democratizing the services won't work. And that the anarchist militias could only fight defensively.

*It's always well to remember that he WAS a Leftist. Comes out if you read him in great doses. For all his virtues, he was not one of us.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (VaN/j)

71
* looks around *

Some of you are not wearing pants.

Some of you are commando.

You know who you are. So do we.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (ljn6f)

72 Chesterton's take:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h7dq7p


Wow. Thanks for linking that. With the cottage industry that academia has set up for literary commentary it's hard to improve upon that. Truthfully I find these book threads to be first rate for that too...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:42 AM (y7DUB)

73 Sadly any new thread kills the old.

Many a army has tried electing officers or the Communist try at having a 2nd political officer, imo it doesn't work.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:43 AM (ZCEU2)

74 67 It's interesting to look back at the various storms
and disasters that we can't even grasp. There are references to "The
Great Storm of X Year" and all we have are tales of villages being
washed away, ships lost, but no one has any real clue as to the true
extent of the damage.

Because death was always close in those days.

I do wish they'd make up their minds about what the "true" temperature of the earth should be.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:39 AM (cfSRQ)

See my first post in the EMT yesterday:

Good Morning Morons; today is Saturday, September 21, 2019. One this day
in 1938 the Great Hurricane of 1938 made landfall on Long Island in New
York. The death toll was estimated at 500-00 people. It was only a cat 3
hurricane but since these were rare as far North as Long Island the
press made a big deal of it. Must have been globull warming huh?


Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:43 AM (mpXpK)

75 The Great Hurricane of 1780.

Devastated all of the Antilles. Killed between 20,000 and 24,000. And not a single SUV or plastic straw in existence.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:44 AM (QSzhg)

76 Morning, fellow Book Threadists!

I finished Jay Winik's The Great Upheaval, which is a monster of a book tying together events of the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and one of the Russo-Turkish wars. Apparently, the period from 1780-1800 was an interesting one, for certain values of.

I've also been writing. Slowly, but surely. Last week, I released a regency romance novel called A Small and Inconvenient Disaster. It's short, sweet, and not at all to the usual Moron taste. Some of the 'ettes might like it, though.

And I'm working on a little story about Thanksgiving, set during the Civil War era. Thanksgiving seems to be losing its importance in American culture (something to do with its Christian origins, and the increasing secularization of society, perhaps?) and I think a short story about a family celebrating, even when they think they don't have much to celebrate, is in order.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (zlzYb)

77 "Your screen time is up 57% this week."

You'll have to do better next week, tvarish!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (6qErC)

78 72 Chesterton's take:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h7dq7p

Wow. Thanks for linking that. With the cottage industry that academia has set up for literary commentary it's hard to improve upon that. Truthfully I find these book threads to be first rate for that too...
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:42 AM (y7DUB)
_________

Opinions differ, but the collection All Things Considered is, IMO, his best set of essays.

And I hate NPC - er, NPR - for stealing the title.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (VaN/j)

79 On the subject of McCaffrey, I'm working on a full reread of the Dragonriders of Pern series. It holds up. Plus, the books start at the usual length of the time, about 200 pages, and even the later/longer ones are 350 or so. Quick reads, good plots.

Posted by: John Taloni at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (/Nhc5)

80 Fremdschämen is a neologism which first appeared in 2005.

It's not in Duden (the official register) and it's not in Leo (the definitive online dictionary). There is a discussion of it on the Leo forums in which everyone hopes this non-word has crawled away to die.

http://bit.ly/2kK89x7

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (FNXDu)

81 As said often, Marxism done right

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (ZCEU2)

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One thing I've learned in my studies is that the usual crap about Libertarians being the polar opposite of Marxists is garbage.

Libertarian Communism was totally a thing, and it's arguably where Libertarians are today. They don't want "state" control, but corporate control is just peachy.

Gosh, that's got a name: anarcho-syndicalism, where syndicates run everything, nominally in the name of the people, but in practice under the direction of a board of control.

Much of the Spanish Civil War was about the Stalinists bringing the Anarchists to heel, with a subtext of how the Anarchists couldn't effectively resist the focused, disciplined tactics of the Stalinists.

As I've noted repeatedly, the notion that the Republic was a democracy in any way, shape or form is a bold-faced lie. If the Republic had triumphed, the groundwork was already in place for a Stalinist dictatorship.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)

82 Amazing writing, the descriptions of North Carolina's coastline/swamp area really draw you in. It is a murder mystery, somewhat written in flashbacks and flashforwards until you get the whole story.

It was a quick, diverting read.
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (zwcGu)


Mrs Hate read that recently and recommended it highly. I've been waiting for someone who doesn't watch The View to confirm that so thanks.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (y7DUB)

83 Nowadays JAG fobbits are the political commissars in the US military.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (QSzhg)

84 Keith is a big fan of the Aubrey Maturin series

He loved being a Boy Scout when he was 12

Its in his auto bio which is a great read. The opening is hilarious

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 22, 2019 09:48 AM (Tajnj)

85 booken morgen horden

I think I mentioned last time - read and enjoyed Frank Fleming's SideQuest and Hellbenders
dud not realize that he is @IMAO who writes for Babylon Bee
as ypu might expect, his books are very funny

aldo been reading Iloba Andrews Innkeeper series and the new Sapphire Flames in that other series

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 09:49 AM (G546f)

86 Walked away from Dragonriders of Pern with The Masterharper of Pern. I have never read any of the books Todd has written set in the same universe. There comes a point where enough is enough, especially when Anne was busy before her death coalescing all of her various series into one great unified storyverse.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:50 AM (QSzhg)

87 Morning readers!

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 09:51 AM (mitVr)

88 That Finnish library image made me think: it's a Baroque interior, but somehow we can tell just by looking at it that it's a Northern culture rather than Mediterranean. I can't put my finger on any specific detail, but you just know that interior's north of the Alps.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 09:51 AM (G02Y7)

89 I found, at a thrift store, a complete set of McGuffey Readers in hardcover. The newest copyright appears to be 1920, so they're not originals, but you can bet I snapped up those babies PDQ. $2.50 apiece; can you believe it? I was flipping through them, and there are excepts and poems from people I've never even heard of, and I consider myself reasonably well-read for my age. Kids in the late 1800s had to know their stuff.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 22, 2019 09:51 AM (zlzYb)

90 One might have checked how revolutionary reorganizations worked for the French and Russian fleets when they tried it.


Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (VaN/j)

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This is exactly why Henry G. Payne is a superior author. He constantly compares Spain with other revolutions, including France and Russia but also Hungary, Greece, Yugoslavia, etc.

He doesn't offer the stupid sop that "at least the Republic meant well" because:
1. It's irrelevant, and
2. It didn't.

If the Republic triumphed, there would be class liquidations. The clergy was slaughtered wholesale, something that Thomas downplays by hinting that maybe they sorta, you know, deserved it. He even quotes a priest suffering from survivor's guilt who says so, which is outrageous.

After the big reorganization of the Republic and Largo Caballero taking over, the new Minister of Agriculture was - brace yourself - an expert in *Marxist theory.*

Yep, that was his qualification. Oddly, famine dogged the Republican territory after that.

Who could have predicted that???

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:52 AM (cfSRQ)

91 @63 Thank you, A. H. Lloyd. I may have questions.

Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:53 AM (OX9vb)

92 11 Is that Keith Richards? I didn't know he could read.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (VNfwt)


Yes, it's Keef, and despite his reputation, he's a big fan of books and libraries.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 09:53 AM (MH+aB)

93 I prefer "Thought to read" you are coming along well though. wink wink nudge nudge.
Can reading early be taught or is it on natures timetable, like learning to walk or potty train,speaking?

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 09:54 AM (5IHGB)

94 83
Nowadays JAG fobbits are the political commissars in the US military.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (QSzhg)

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And of course that's David French's big claim to military veteran status. He spent a tour processing powers of attorney and Article 15s. Not exactly Audie Murphy material.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 09:56 AM (xG/b0)

96 ""Someone who gets outraged on behalf of someone else who has not asked for support.""


Leftist?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 09:57 AM (9Om/r)

97 I'm at the point in The People's Tragedy where Figes mentions what a shithole the commies turned Petrograd into during the civil war with people starving all over the place. He discusses how Gorky was one of those odd characters that Lenin liked despite the fact that he complained constantly about how the commies ran roughshod over good people and produced dogshit propaganda posing as art. Because of Lenin liking him he was able to keep some artists from starving. Figes mentions, in kind of a snarky way, that Gorky was able to increase his personal art collection on the cheap but when everyone is destitute it's not exactly a sellers market. I've always considered Gorky kind of a hack of an author, rightly or otherwise, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good person.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:57 AM (y7DUB)

98 Keith!!!
On my end, I'm working on some updates to my company, website, and more. A pilot-study that evaluates my new method for measuring blood oxidative stress is in the works. I'll offer my ebooks for free in the near future for all Morons. 2020 should be interesting...

Posted by: scrood at September 22, 2019 09:58 AM (tGsDy)

99 And David French tried to get himself awarded the Purple Heart for a paper-cut.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:58 AM (QSzhg)

100 Good Morning Morons; today is Saturday, September 21, 2019. One this day
in 1938 the Great Hurricane of 1938 made landfall on Long Island in New
York. The death toll was estimated at 500-00 people. It was only a cat 3
hurricane but since these were rare as far North as Long Island the
press made a big deal of it. Must have been globull warming huh?
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:43 AM (mpXpK)


I'd guess another reason why the media made a big deal of it is because of the number of media outlets headquartered in NYC, even back then.

"All news is local.".

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 09:59 AM (MH+aB)

101 We have always been in flux. Turn of the century Americans feared that urbanization was turning the citizenry effeminate and soft, and mass immigration was changing the demographic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)

102 funny reading on vagina museum

https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)

103 Last week a few of us brought up reading aloud to enhance and share the words. I mentioned the Prompt book Dickens used to read "A Christmas Carol" to audiences when he was on tour, with all his notes on what to include and how to express each line. Levengers put out a facsimile some years ago. It is like a window into Dickens' mind as you can see what he thought was important for an audience to hear.

Turns out there was a similar prompt book for Dickens' "David Copperfield". Levengers has it on sale for about 7 bucks instead of $60. (Levengers doesn't print as many books as they used to.) My copy came the other day. It's a beautifully bound hardcover and I look forward to holding and reading it.

Here's my problem: I HATE the book "David Copperfield".

In 4th grade some administrator decided it would be a good idea to have our class read Dickens and chose DC. They obtained paperback copies so poorly made pages were falling out before we opended the books. The print was so small that it strained even young eyes. But the worst was our teacher sucked hot swamp water. She provided no context of the period, why the book was chosen, any background on Dickens, or what the Victorian vocabulary meant. We would read a chapter, turn in a report of what happened, then go on to the next chapter. This took a few months as it's a looong book. This turned me off Dickens for many decades. (It also made me wonder what imbecile thought having some old maid, unimaginative bitch should be teaching active youngsters was a good idea. I've known nuns that were like Carol Channing compared to this teacher. But that's another matter.) I was in my fifties before I ever read "A Christmas Carol".

The Christmas Carol prompt book was so good because I knew the story. My memory of David Copperfield is ancient and fuzzy at best. Question for the book thread: Is it worth reading David Copperfield at all? Any fans of DC or Dickens' other longer novels? I like the literature of the period both for the stories and the writing style. But Dickens is a huge blank area for me. I did pick up a good hardcover edition of DC at the used book store yesterday. It won't fall apart and the print is decent sized. I know Kindle has it for free or almost but I wanted a physical copy.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (bmdz3)

104 As I've noted repeatedly, the notion that the Republic was a democracy in any way, shape or form is a bold-faced lie. If the Republic had triumphed, the groundwork was already in place for a Stalinist dictatorship.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)


I recently corrected a speaker that we're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:01 AM (y7DUB)

105 Henry Payne's book is on my list. I will be ordering a few next month; I'd planned to put N A M Rodger's 3rd Volume at the top of the list, but it won't be out until next fall. Pisses me off. For FIFTY YEARS I've been living with the fact that serious naval books are delayed about 75% of the time.

One anecdote about buying one. Some years ago I called the Naval Institute Press to order some books. I offhand mentioned that I seemed to have missed out on one which was no longer listed. The girl said "I think I saw a copy. Would you like to hold?"

Uh, yes. So I got their last one. I hope she is happily married with many wonderful kids. The world needs more people like that.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:01 AM (VaN/j)

106 102 funny reading on vagina museum

https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
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I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

107 94 83
Nowadays JAG fobbits are the political commissars in the US military.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (QSzhg)

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And of course that's David French's big claim to military veteran status. He spent a tour processing powers of attorney and Article 15s. Not exactly Audie Murphy material.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)
_______

Hey! Where would we be without someone representing AWOL Freon Rangers? Didn't think of that, did you?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (VaN/j)

108 Last night on the ONT someone made a comment about Moon Maidens and Joey Bidet.

And all I could think of is First Men in the Moon. Joey Bidet type is the potty scientist with the mutton chops who invented the spaceship. Moon Maidens are Asgardian Valkyries from Moonbase Valhalla. Got to keep the secret of Aetherial Currents from those puny Humans.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (QSzhg)

109 Read Latest in Big Lake series by Nick Russell

Fun series of books about a small town sheriff in the mountains of S Arizona.

That sounds a lot like Longmire (which I dearly miss!). I'll be looking for those. Thanks for the mention!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (T2vnY)

110 84: yes, keith's bio is a great read. keith is actually a pretty intelligent guy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (KP5rU)

111 My memory of David Copperfield is ancient and fuzzy at best. Question
for the book thread: Is it worth reading David Copperfield at all? Any
fans of DC or Dickens' other longer novels?


I had to read it in HS for English lit. My memory of it was meh. Not good or bad.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:04 AM (mpXpK)

112 I recently corrected a speaker that we're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

-
Grammar Nazi Seth McFarland on the proper use of the word . . .

https://bit.ly/2kWv8VH

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

113 "Marxism done right" refers to the period of time after which Marxism has killed every last human, and most of the animal kingdom.

Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:06 AM (RuIsu)

114 109 Read Latest in Big Lake series by Nick Russell

Fun series of books about a small town sheriff in the mountains of S Arizona.

That sounds a lot like Longmire (which I dearly miss!). I'll be looking for those. Thanks for the mention!
Posted by: SandyCheeks at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (T2vnY)

The also look at the The Liturgical Mysteries by Mark Schweizer

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:07 AM (JFO2v)

115 Doyle & Acton is a good series - must get caught back up in it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:07 AM (G546f)

116 103
Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (bmdz3)
_______

The last time I read Copperfield, my wife walked into the room and asked why I was smiling. I said "Dora has finally died."

But Micawber is justly praised, and aunt Trot and Mr Dick are good too. There's also the ending, in which Dickens surprisingly attacks prison reform.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:07 AM (VaN/j)

117 112 I recently corrected a speaker that we're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

-
Grammar Nazi Seth McFarland on the proper use of the word . . .

https://bit.ly/2kWv8VH
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

at the BEE

Liberals Clarify Their Racism Is Actually Democratic Racism

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (JFO2v)

118 I found Paul Cobb's The Race for Paradise (which I bought five years ago, but lost) and finally finished it!!

The book is what it says it is - the Crusades from the Muslims' perspective. I liked that it didn't end with the stupid Fourth Crusade like too many Protestant / Enlightenment accounts do. Turns out the Crusade was #winning again afterward, mostly without help from the incoming western armies. It was mostly Muslim disunity that allowed the resurgence.

But then the Mongols came and the local Christians, including Crusaders, sided with Hulagu Khan. When Hulagu lost, the Christians were all left in a Near East which hated them, so the Mamelukes in Egypt picked them off.

Cobb's problem is he doesn't know when to stop, so the book keeps on keepin' on to the fall of Constantinople and then Rhodes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)

119 81
As I've noted repeatedly, the notion that the Republic was a democracy in any way, shape or form is a bold-faced lie. If the Republic had triumphed, the groundwork was already in place for a Stalinist dictatorship.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)
________

The problem with that is it is the word Tocqueville used, after all.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:10 AM (VaN/j)

120 Still reading the new Churchill. He hated communism from the minute it arose and correctly predicted that it would be the most virulent terror of his century.

He also thought the post-WWI restrictions on Germany were onerous and that she should be brought back into the fold of nations.

Succinctly: "Kiss the Hun, kill the Bolshevik".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:11 AM (FNXDu)

121 Mostly nonfiction this week. Finished _We Have No Idea_, which is a fun book about areas of science (physics, mostly) which are still complete blanks on the map. How does gravity work? How big is the Universe? What is dark energy? Etc. I enjoyed it -- it's written for a lay readership and is very jokey, but manages to not talk down to the reader.

I started a bio of the artist Edward Gorey, called _Born to be Posthumous_, and I find myself very irritated with the author. He's some modern "culture critic" who keeps revealing his own stunning ignorance. At one point he mentions how the endemic gang violence of Chicago (where Gorey grew up) must have influenced Edward's morbid view of the world. Two pages later he's mystified why Gorey's father moved the family to an upscale suburb as soon as he got a well-paid job. Hmm. It sure is a conundrum.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:11 AM (G02Y7)

122 118 I found Paul Cobb's The Race for Paradise (which I bought five years ago, but lost) and finally finished it!!

The book is what it says it is - the Crusades from the Muslims' perspective. I liked that it didn't end with the stupid Fourth Crusade like too many Protestant / Enlightenment accounts do. Turns out the Crusade was #winning again afterward, mostly without help from the incoming western armies. It was mostly Muslim disunity that allowed the resurgence.

But then the Mongols came and the local Christians, including Crusaders, sided with Hulagu Khan. When Hulagu lost, the Christians were all left in a Near East which hated them, so the Mamelukes in Egypt picked them off.

Cobb's problem is he doesn't know when to stop, so the book keeps on keepin' on to the fall of Constantinople and then Rhodes.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)
________

Not sure he should have stopped even that late. Albuquerque thought he was continuing the Crusades when building an empire in the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)

123 Lurk, lurk, lurk...
Posted by: None shall pass at September 22, 2019 09:32 AM (JdcHc)


You're doing it wrong.

OK, some book content (possibly better suited to the gun thread):

I started "Accuracy and Precision for Long Range Shooting" by Bryan Litz. This is not the Litz book recommended by Weasel but it looked like a better place to start instead of diving directly into ballistics. I've only finished Part 1 but so far, it's been kind of disappointing. Basically, he has a software statistical model with which he runs repeated simulations to quantify the effects of things like target range, wind estimation, ammo consistency, etc. And, shockingly enough, he finds that your on-target probability goes down with longer ranges, less consistent ammo, and so on. OK, I didn't have estimates to the second decimal place but I kind of already knew all that. Maybe the "...and here's how to get better at that" will be in the later sections. Or in the next book.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 10:13 AM (qc+VF)

124 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:14 AM (arJlL)

125 I wonder: was it the colonies that ultimately doomed the Crusading project? After Columbus all the meathead younger sons and troublesome middle-class strivers could go off to conquer Peru or Bengal or wherever instead of bashing their heads against the Holy Land over and over.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (G02Y7)

126 Currently reading #5 in David Black's Harry Gilmour series, the adventures of a young RNVR submarine skipper in early WWII. Very good action, believable characters, humor, and a suave villain who is out to scuttle the young captain both literally and figuratively. Free on Kindle unlimited.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (wZ9cV)

127 Look at this magnificent specimen of felis domesticus:

https://tinyurl.com/y3xee7m9

It's the cover of Walter Chendoha's book of cat photography (he was the Cecil Beaton of feline glamour photography). I had it on my hold list at the library but won't get it before I move.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (kQs4Y)

128 100 ... "It was only a cat 3
hurricane but since these were rare as far North as Long Island the
press made a big deal of it. Must have been globull warming huh?"

The hurricane of 1938 hit my hometown in RI squarely. The Providence Journal put out a booklet about it and the damage. It got a lot of unusual coverage because it was such a rare event (fortunately) and the damage was easy to photograph: commercial fishing trawlers swept a quarter mile and left in a town park, before and after pictures of fair rides at the beach destroyed, houses moved off their foundations, high water marks up to the second story in downtown Providence. I grew up with accounts of the hurricane. At least in 1938 it wasn't a political matter.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (bmdz3)

129 286
Another couple of classics that the Morons should read before the SJWs eradicate them is Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer. You can
get a compendium of all of his works on the Kindle from Amazon for 0.99.




Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (mpXpK)

130 Today is the first Sunday AM in at least 2 months that I haven't felt like a complete piece of New York Times. A relief.

Anyone read the Hemingway/Severino book? Ages ago I gave up books on current events, but I'm tempted by that one.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (VaN/j)

131 Eris you are moving to a different state, right?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (G546f)

132 "Marxism done right" refers to the period of time after which Marxism has killed every last human, and most of the animal kingdom.
Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:06 AM (RuIsu)

Yup.....and for the animal lovers out there, do not research the Soviet whaling ships which ravaged the seas in and around Antarctica after WW2.

A senseless environmental crime all done by the marxists which is never mentioned by the likes of that cretin girl with the dead eyes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (Z+IKu)

133 I was interested in the later Crusade again because I'd also read Jonathan Phillips, The Fourth Crusade and the Sack of Constantinople.

Phillips explains in detail what the East knows already and what the West will ashamedly admit: the Fourth Crusade was Christendom's most colossal own-goal.

Basically the Crusade showed up in Constantinople because the Crusade's nobles needed the cash and because their paymasters in Venice figured that adventure for a good bet. It was a good bet: Constantinople was run by a lazy emperor who had prepared nothing against a naval expedition. The Greeks had nothing to fear from the Arab navies, 'tis true; but they should have observed what European navies could do. This was the fourth, not the first, outre-mer Crusade.

In 1203, Venice landed the Crusade's troops in Greek territory, the Europeans did some damage, Constantinople had a palace coup, and the restored scions of that Angeloi family invited the Europeans in. And then, it all went sour.

To the extent Phillips revises anything, he explains that the Byzantines weren't angels either. They'd just come off one of those sporadic Hellenistic pogroms of Latins, as the Hellenes had done since Mithridates of Pontus. So when the Latins returned to the Hellespont, two decades later... there were many who remembered, on both sides. But the historians knew all this already, in 1213 AD and in 2013. Phillips is just presenting it all to the common Anglo.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (ykYG2)

134 "The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

A.H. Lloyd, I read Thomas' book on the Spanish Civil War back in HS and I remember that line as well, and thought on it for a long time. He said as much that it was the only true example of anarchism (anarcho-socialism actually) being in power and running a government, and it would have been wonderful to see what would have happened if it had been left alone to succeed.

I think this is part of the whole revision of the past to celebrate the good revolutionaries who got rid of the bad revolutionaries who were only in it for their own self interest, and who were in turn liquidated by the evil totalitarians who perverted the vision into a grinding bureaucratic state.

Good Lenin - Bad Stalin sort of thing, or Good Trotsky, or whichever slice in time of the French Republic that you think was the apogee of the enlightenment and human freedom before the betrayals made Napoleon inevitable.

Andy Warhol stated that everyone will be famous for 15 minutes. I suspect that viewed in retrospect, every revolution has had those 15 minutes of transcendent freedom and doctrinal purity before being betrayed and its leading adherents purged; apparently perfection makes your political culture incapable of defending itself from its competitors.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 10:17 AM (xG/b0)

135 I'm in book 7 of Herodotus and, once you get through his magical mystery tour of the world in the early books and he talks about things he's more familiar with, he's a very engaging writer at least in translation. Xerxes is certainly the demanding tyrant, beheading all the participants when a whopper storm trashed the bridge being constructed between Asia and Europe. And punishing the sea for being part of it. Maybe Biden isn't so fucking nutty...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:18 AM (y7DUB)

136 Eris, that book is more expensive on eBay...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:18 AM (QSzhg)

137 Hey! Where would we be without someone representing AWOL Freon Rangers? Didn't think of that, did you?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (VaN/j)

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Everyone has a part to play. I am in no position to criticize that.

What I object to is the formulation that he uses, which implies he's something that he isn't.

I have never yet identified myself as a War on Terrorism Veteran I technically am one, but the clear implication is that I'm some sort of trigger-puller in the combat arms. I'm not. I'm the REMFist REMF you'll ever find.

Three Weeks with the Coasties is pretty much the apogee of my service (an amusing take on the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill for those who haven't yet purchased it at the low, low price of $2.99 on the Kindle).

I've gotten a number of awards and could identify myself as a "decorated veteran" but they're all for administrative tasks.

I'm proud of what I've done, and I'm pretty sure my legacy is greater than French (how many unit crests did he design? I've already done two.)

Anyhow, I've tooted my horn as much as need be done. French is a poseur and a stuffed shirt, and I'm a good but tragically underselling author.

Hurt David French. Buy my books.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 10:19 AM (cfSRQ)

138
I'm in book 7 of Herodotus and, once you get through his magical mystery
tour of the world in the early books and he talks about things he's
more familiar with, he's a very engaging writer at least in translation.
Xerxes is certainly the demanding tyrant, beheading all the
participants when a whopper storm trashed the bridge being constructed
between Asia and Europe. And punishing the sea for being part of it.
Maybe Biden isn't so fucking nutty...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:18 AM (y7DUB)

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Ordering the Hellespont flogged for defying the King of Kings is awesome.

The movie "300" actually soft-pedaled the Greek version of history.

You're getting to the good part. Enjoy!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 10:21 AM (cfSRQ)

139 BTW you can get both of those Mark Twain books from Gutenberg for free, but I haven't figured out to post them in my Kindle Fire 10 so it will recognize them,.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:21 AM (mpXpK)

140 But then the Mongols came and the local Christians,
including Crusaders, sided with Hulagu Khan. When Hulagu lost, the
Christians were all left in a Near East which hated them, so the
Mamelukes in Egypt picked them off.



Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)

I recently stumbled across a lecture about the Mongol/Mameluke interactions, and it was interesting to consider what might have happened if the mongols had maintained a larger presence in the Levant. They usually showed more tolerance toward local/native religions like Christianity, and I wonder if they might have taken over the Christian kingdoms (such as they were by then), only to find themselves thrown out a couple hundred years later, similar to the situation in Russia. The Ottoman Empire would have been less powerful, Constantinople might not have fallen, and there might still be a Byzantine Empire. All because one battle ended differently.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (zlzYb)

141 Saf, yes I think reading can be taught early, I think all of my siblings and cousins were reading by four years of age, though one hyperactive cousin hated the idea of sitting still to do so.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (2OS9i)

142 Actually I'd copy-pasted that too early. I think what actually happened is that Venice was very unparticular about HOW the Fourth Crusade paid them back, after Zara got sacked for them. Then a butthurt Angeloi prince in exile said to the already-compromised Crusader force, how 'bout Constantinople then.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (ykYG2)

143 My proudest awards are not for being a trigger puller, but for being part of the post Katrina/Rita relief effort.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (QSzhg)

144 I need to find opportunities to jam the word "strenuosity" into my conversations.

"He has developed all his muscles by rigorous training and has expanded his chest till his capacious lungs are qualified to feed his blood with oxygen; and his vigorous heart sends that rich, vitalized fluid through his big neck into his active brain. And the result is what has come to be known as strenuosity."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:23 AM (kQs4Y)

145 Miley, squeakywheel:

66 Miley, first word, Fremschamen. Prob spelled it wrong, tho.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (zwcGu)

Fremdschämen means this:

to feel ashamed about something someone else has done; to be embarrassed because someone else has embarrassed himself (and doesn't notice)

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:23 AM (yDjHx)

146 With a copy of Herodotus and the Blue Box D&D set you could run a killer Age of Leonidas roleplaying campaign.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:24 AM (G02Y7)

147 Good words, Miley. I don't know what they are.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:24 AM (yDjHx)

148 "... attempt to rewrite history to portray slavery is pretty much a
white-on-black affair that was invented on U.S. soil in 1619, rather
than endemic to almost every human culture that has ever existed."

from my view, only the US declaration and constitution freed men from slavery to a government, though it took the Civil War to remove the final remnants. Kings or popes or chiefs made men in other societies subjects, to their whims, including using the strongest men as cannon fodder.


China to this day sees their 1.4B humans as expendable, and works them long hours with little reward, for the advancement of the realm. And our own "totalitarian" leftists are trying to "put us back in chains" of mandates and impossible debt, imposed on us by an un-elected shadow government/warlord. They try to undo not just the last election, but the original revolution.


The charlatans like Sharpton/Obama/Holder used "their people" for their own enrichment, while the inner cities decayed. The heritage of Obama was not "up from slavery", yet he appropriated that victim status based solely on skin color. The left is oh so intent on keeping US divided into their preferred factions, for easier control.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 10:25 AM (Cus5s)

149 Even in WWII isn't it something like only %10 of the Army were infantryman?

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 10:25 AM (ZCEU2)

150 "He has developed all his muscles by rigorous training and has expanded
his chest till his capacious lungs are qualified to feed his blood with
oxygen; and his vigorous heart sends that rich, vitalized fluid through
his big neck into his active brain. And the result is what has come to
be known as strenuosity."


And all I can think of is Damaramaru from Dragon Half as he utters "I could have advanced two ranks and earned three meals a day" with a lightsaber piercing his helmet and hyper-compact brain.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (QSzhg)

151 There's another 19th century book on Cortez and the conquest of the Aztecs (author's name is Prescott, I think) that's quite good. A little biased against Catholics, but very accurate on the facts.

And yeah, I definitely made a point of emphasizing to my class that everyone else in Mexico was more than happy to help overthrow the Aztecs, given how many of their own people had become human sacrifices.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (zCpUM)

152 I wonder: was it the colonies that ultimately doomed the Crusading project?

Likely the West would have given up on Constantinople. It was always a bit of an embarrassment to Latin Christendom; I've likened the place to the Imperium of Warhammer 40000.

I think North Africa would have been the next Crusader project, if Spain and Portugal hadn't sailed off west. The Normans took bits of it during the 1000s or 1100s. And then of course France and Italy gobbled a lot of it over the 1800s.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (ykYG2)

153 I was interested in the later Crusade again because I'd also read Jonathan Phillips, The Fourth Crusade and the Sack of Constantinople.

Phillips explains in detail what the East knows already and what the West will ashamedly admit: the Fourth Crusade was Christendom's most colossal own-goal.


I enjoyed that book a great deal. I have no idea what the state run propaganda centers spew about the Crusades but the general level of insight of them is at the retarded monkey level.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

154 IN PRAISE OF LARGE BOOKS: In high school I was constantly checking books out and reading them in class when I shouldn't have been. One time, because there weren't any books left that I wanted to read, I decided to just go with a famous book: Shogun. It wasn't my type of book at all. And, really, it was only good, not great or anything. But for the first time, it took me the whole two weeks I was allowed to check out books to read it. And when I finished it, I had an interesting experience: I didn't know what to do with myself or what to read. I had spent so much time with these characters, that I wanted to keep reading about them. I wasn't able to just switch into another set of characters in another set of circumstances in another story.

Well, Shogun still was only good, but when there are books that do that with stories that I wanted to read at the outset, it's really wonderful. Just wanted to share. That is all.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (ynUnH)

155 Fremdschmen means this:

to feel ashamed about something someone else has done; to be embarrassed because someone else has embarrassed himself (and doesn't notice)

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I'm more of a point and laugh guy myself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:27 AM (+y/Ru)

156 Dr. T - here is where I recommend Matthew Restall again, When Montezuma Met Cortes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:27 AM (ykYG2)

157 'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle & Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

artemis is a dame ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (arJlL)

158 Unwanted outrage?
1. fauxtrage: word previously used on this site
2. meddler
3. busybody
4. fauteur de troubles (fr.)
5. provocateur

Posted by: Anthony D Clum at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (rTRO+)

159 artemis is a girl's name.

Posted by: jayne cobb at September 22, 2019 10:30 AM (ykYG2)

160 Artemis - Goddess of the hunt, the hills, and the moon

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:30 AM (G546f)

161 I've got a kid in high school and the current doctrine regarding the Spanish in Mexico is:

The Spanish were Bad People because they conquered the virtuous advanced peaceful Aztecs and forced them to adopt Christianity. Human sacrifice barely gets a mention, and since the Mexican allies fighting along side Cortez kind of mess up the narrative, they now bandy about phrases like "biological warfare" to explain the Spanish victory. (How people who didn't have the germ theory of disease could use germs as a weapon is not explained.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:31 AM (G02Y7)

162 artemis is a dame ?

I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (qc+VF)

163 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.

Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)

164 How people who didn't have the germ theory of disease could use germs as a weapon is not explained.

It just works.

Posted by: some mongols with a catapult at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (ykYG2)

165 Ha, "The Strenuous Life" is La Vie Intense[//i] in French.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (kQs4Y)

166 Meanwhile the current doctrine about the Crusades is:

The Crusaders were Bad People because they tried to conquer the virtuous advanced peaceful Muslims and force them to adopt Christianity. Happily, they failed, and so the Middle East has been peaceful and progressive ever since.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (G02Y7)

167 "Towering cities and clamorous teeming populations have conspired to make unknown great men an American tradition." -- Spied on the bathroom wall of George's Middle East Delicatessen, Atlanta Ga.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

The author musta been doing a number two.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (arJlL)

168 >> Could not get the page to go to the bottom at first.
Posted by: Vic

Had that problem sometimes when I was in congress.

Posted by: Barney Frank at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (2cuLk)

169 BTW you can get both of those Mark Twain books from Gutenberg for free, but I haven't figured out to post them in my Kindle Fire 10 so it will recognize them,.


You can get every word Twain ever wrote for free on Kindle through Kindle. You don't need to kill yourself converting anything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (FNXDu)

170 Read Oh, God!{/i} by Avery Corman. Published in 1971, it was the source material for the movie of the same title starring John Denver and George Burns. God invites a writer to conduct an interview. Not a light-hearted as the movie, it was a bit more thought-provoking. A quick read. Rating = 3.75/5.0.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (5Yee7)

171 Speaking of pointing and laughing . . .

BIDEN TAUNTS TRUMP: I'LL BEAT HIM LIKE A DRUM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)

172 Also, just finished our latest Victorian era reprint: "Eric Brighteyes" by H. Rider Haggard. While Haggard is best known for his adventure stories set in Africa, this one is a recreation of a medieval Viking saga. Tolkien cited it as an influence on Lord of the Rings; it also includes rivalries, intrigues, and a couple of "red weddings" that should appeal to Game of Thrones fans.

http://www.monroestpress.com/What-s-New-.html

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (9WuX0)

173 I also read a few Nabokov short stories this week. He was an extremely prolific writer during the 30s in Berlin, although being part of a big time depression and having your adopted country being run by an emerging lunatic can provide a stimulus of sorts. The stories are all small gems, particularly Music about a kind of dilettante who doesn't particularly like music who sees his ex wife, for whom he still has unresolved feelings, at a piano recital.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:35 AM (y7DUB)

174 Cobb's problem is he doesn't know when to stop, so the book keeps on keepin' on to the fall of Constantinople and then Rhodes.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)
________

Not sure he should have stopped even that late. Albuquerque thought he was continuing the Crusades when building an empire in the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)


Raymond Ibrahim's Sword and Scimitar traces the theme through the defeat of the Barbary pirates from 1815-30.

Posted by: cool breeze at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (UGKMd)

175 Fremdschaemen means this:


Please see #80.

It is not a word and we should resist efforts to make it so.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (FNXDu)

176 Bought a Grisham novel for the flight home from MN, which was smart. And, the book itself was pretty good.

"The Reckoning" which I found to be a good read, and, if Grisham truly did his research, made me hate McCarthur for the blunders he made in the defense of the Philippines. And the mistakes recounted were egregious not of the hindsight sort.

Glad I had the Grisham novel because I spent more time at the airport than in the air.

Also working on, "A Bridge too Far" another excellent read and excellent Horde recommendation.

Really glad to be home. Trip was good, but home is better.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (WEBkv)

177 The Spanish were Bad People because they conquered the virtuous advanced peaceful Aztecs and forced them to adopt Christianity

The Spanish were bad people because they conquered the Aztecs and didn't force them to adopt Christianity. They just enslaved errbody and banned the main points of their religion. If more natives had signed onto Christianity proper, that would have cut into the slave lords' profit margin.

The leftover Nahua insisted on converting to Catholicism themselves.

We need a "1531 Project".

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:37 AM (ykYG2)

178 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.

Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers

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Plus there's always a lot of high school girls around.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:37 AM (+y/Ru)

179
Don't know the second word for requited love. Wish I did, too.

Quickie !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:37 AM (arJlL)

180 The Crusaders were Bad People because they tried to conquer the virtuous advanced peaceful Muslims and force them to adopt Christianity. Happily, they failed, and so the Middle East has been peaceful and progressive ever since.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (G02Y7)

You see this lie everywhere.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 10:39 AM (U7k5w)

181 and on that note, I see I've got a Mass to attend...

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:39 AM (ykYG2)

182 Miley:

someone who gets outraged on behalf of someone else who has not asked for support

White knight?

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:39 AM (yDjHx)

183 Recently finished "Web of Eyes" by Rhett C Bruno. First of the Red Star Rising trilogy, which is one of those super-cheap straight-to-amazon novel series. I nice easy read (I had just abandoned a previous amazon book because of odd syntax/presentation) and a pretty enjoyable story. Working on the second book now.

The most notable aspect of the book was how it subverted the usual high-fantasy story structure. You expect that once the main characters are gathered, they will spend the bulk of the book embarked on their great epic quest. However, as soon as the quest begins, the author started undermining its premises, redefining its goals, or just flat out having his characters abandon it. It was a......unique way of keeping up the suspense. But, as I said, I did enjoy it...

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (Lhaco)

184 The Vagina Museum is closed 365 days a year for cleaning.

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (5IHGB)

185 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.
Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)

McDonalds is too much work for the poor guy.

Somebody better clue A. Rape Brown in on the fact that rape don't pay very well.

Hide your husbands, hide your wives, hide your children, A. Rape Brown is on the loose.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (Z+IKu)

186 The widow of a World War II Navy hero turns 100

Gay is the widow of George Gay, a Navy pilot and decorated hero of the Battle of Midway.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (85Gof)

187 One thing I've learned in my studies is that the usual crap about Libertarians being the polar opposite of Marxists is garbage.

[. . . ]


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)

Libertarian is like "liberal". Everyone wants the title and the meaning has changed depending on who is talking about it. The Spanish Anarchist were Anarchy-Synicalists, which is right, they wanted everything run by a non-hierarchical bureaucracy that owned everything and that it was essentially the same sort of mob rule as the San-culottes or the Red Guard should surprise no one.

If you are interested in the history of classic liberalism, you could dip into it by watching videos of Ralph Raico's lectures on the German Liberals, and his discussions on Fascism and Anarcho-syndicalism. He did some very nice one hour lectures that are on Ewe-toob.
His take on Italian Fascism would have been worth buying admission tickets to the event.

He is like that really distant uncle who wears tweed jackets and doesn't warm up well, but would look at your models with you and then out of the blue start telling you about the design history and performance specifications.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 10:41 AM (xG/b0)

188 Is it just me or do others feel a vital element is missing in a lot of these library pictures?

******

Grand Library, Sans People - a limerick

It's cold, methodical and procedural
Geometric and dodecahedral
But there's no people to be had
And that always makes me sad
Like a vacant and decaying cathedral

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 10:41 AM (m45I2)

189 You can get every word Twain ever wrote for free on Kindle through Kindle. You don't need to kill yourself converting anything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (FNXDu)

I don't understand that sentence. You don't need to convert books from Gutenburg. You just have to load them. I used to do that all the time on my old plain Jane Kindle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:42 AM (mpXpK)

190 It is not a word and we should resist efforts to make it so.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (FNXDu)

Where were you when you could have been useful?

Posted by: Fernsehapparat at September 22, 2019 10:43 AM (vqIkG)

191 I just bought Battle Officer Wolf. I hope it's good. 19 years ago I read and liked Seamus Heany's Beowulf and might read it again when I'm done with BOF.

Posted by: Oggi at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (Bk5Q+)

192 One thing I've learned in my studies is that the usual crap about Libertarians being the polar opposite of Marxists is garbage.


Belay that shit. I refuse to have my word taken away from me and redefined by people who are opposed to me.

Libertarianism is about maximum practicable power in the hands of the individual. Communism is about total power in the hand of the state. They are in fact opposites.

I don't care what you've "studied". You're reading it wrong.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (FNXDu)

193 148

The charlatans like Sharpton/Obama/Holder used "their people" for their own enrichment, while the inner cities decayed. The heritage of Obama was not "up from slavery", yet he appropriated that victim status based solely on skin color. The left is oh so intent on keeping US divided into their preferred factions, for easier control.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 10:25 AM (Cus5s)

Is taxation not a form of slavery. Most worker spend almost 2 months (15% of their time) paying for Social Security. Then middle to upper middle class pay another 2 to 3 months of their time for income taxes. If a government can demand with force the one third or more of the year belongs to them then why not half the year or two thirds of the year?

Everyone of the SJWhores is demanding the government violence be used to control someones lifes or actions. Progressives often look the other way when another Progressive skims off the system (Joe Bidet) yet find whole section of society guilty for their beliefs or their thoughts.

The current white nationalist hue and cry is just another attempt to blame others for the complete and total failure of the Democrat Party (and their leaders) to even try to run towns, cities, and states.

Is there trash on your streets? Then you voted for the wrong person. Are your schools failing (Houston ISD)? Then you have sold your children out for a little power. Do children in your community die from crime and guns? Then you chose that violence for a few extra welfare dollars or free housing.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (JFO2v)

194 Antonio! Keep your hand on the spatula and off your junk!

Posted by: McD Manager at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (tGsDy)

195 It might be a good time to read or re-read Pete Scweitzer's book about secret empires, I can't remember the exact title, but it will help understand why Joe Biden has really gone on offense about Ukraine. I think the Donald has chosen the perfect target for Joey Choo Choo!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (a4EWo)

196 My proudest awards are not for being a trigger puller, but for being part of the post Katrina/Rita relief effort.
Posted by: Anna Puma

nice !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (arJlL)

197 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.
Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)


I hate the dismissive attitude regarding working at McDonalds because it provides honest employment for kids with good attitudes. Granted the nitbrained progs want it to pay at a ridiculous level because they're economic retards but that's another story...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

198 I'd mentioned a few months back that I had to stop mid-book while reading my favorite author, Neal Stephenson, due to Rapid Onset Woke Delirium. It was really very depressing and I was at a bit of a loss on pleasure reading.

I'm happy to say that I found some great sci-fi in The Rig by Roger Levy. It is a blend of sci-fi and detective novel and I just loved it. I feel so much better. 5/5 and snap-snap two thumbs up.

Posted by: motionview at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (pYQR/)

199 152 I wonder: was it the colonies that ultimately doomed the Crusading project?

Likely the West would have given up on Constantinople. It was always a bit of an embarrassment to Latin Christendom; I've likened the place to the Imperium of Warhammer 40000.

I think North Africa would have been the next Crusader project, if Spain and Portugal hadn't sailed off west. The Normans took bits of it during the 1000s or 1100s. And then of course France and Italy gobbled a lot of it over the 1800s.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (ykYG2)
________

Spain did try to establish in N Africa. They had holdings in what is now Algeria, but couldn't keep them. Portugal mostly had a lot of Gibraltar-type cities all over the African coast, from Ceuta all the way around to Mombasa. Also Oman. They failed to take Aden, though.

It really was directed against Islam.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:46 AM (VaN/j)

200 WC Fields played Micawber in the Freddie Barthollew version of David Copperfield. Fields was a big fan of Dickens and did a great job in the role.

I'm reading The Accidental Diarist by Molly McCarthy. It's the history of books used as planners or diaries in the US. If you've ever collected old ledgers and notebooks, you'd find this interesting.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2019 10:46 AM (Lqy/e)

201 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.
Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)

I hate the dismissive attitude regarding working at McDonalds because it provides honest employment for kids with good attitudes. Granted the nitbrained progs want it to pay at a ridiculous level because they're economic retards but that's another story...
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

My intent was not to denigrate McDonalds workers but to laugh at the pay cut brown is about to take.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (Rnzal)

202 I don't understand that sentence. You don't need to convert books from Gutenburg. You just have to load them. I used to do that all the time on my old plain Jane Kindle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:42 AM (mpXpK)



Jeezuz, Vic. I was responding to this:


BTW you can get both of those Mark Twain books from Gutenberg for free, but I haven't figured out to post them in my Kindle Fire 10 so it will recognize them,.
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:21 AM (mpXpK)



You should read your comments some time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (FNXDu)

203
Belay that shit. I refuse to have my word taken away from me and redefined by people who are opposed to me.

Libertarianism is about maximum practicable power in the hands of the individual. Communism is about total power in the hand of the state. They are in fact opposites.

I don't care what you've "studied". You're reading it wrong.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (FNXDu)


I consider myself a classic libertarian as well as a nationalist. I wish for the maximum freedom possible within the limits of our Constitution. I personally don't care much how others choose to live their lives, as long as they don't infringe on my rights or expect me to support or subsidize their behavior.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (TdMsT)

204 I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Artemus Gordon

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (arJlL)

205 106 102 funny reading on vagina museum
https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
---

I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)


Heh. Perhaps you should snatch up an admission ticket and find out.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (MH+aB)

206 Medical mystery in Pittsburgh.

3 dead, 4 hospitalized after police called to South Side apartment building

A man was found on 26th and Carson streets at 3:20 a.m. and was taken to Pittsburgh Mercy hospital. One man, who later died, was found in the elevator at South Side City Club Apartments at 4:01 a.m. Two men were found dead in an apartment there at 5:38 a.m., and three others there were taken to Mercy, said Wendell Hissrich, the city's director of public safety.

The four living victims were hospitalized in conditions from critical to serious. All victims were male and wearing orange wristbands.

. . . .

"It is our understanding that the group had attended an outside event where they may have consumed a toxic substance before returning to the apartment."

https://bit.ly/2kWRC92

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

207 So will the vagina museum be particular about who gets in?

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (G02Y7)

208 Rapid Onset Woke Delirium

Charles Stross and Richard Powers are two talented writers who've been afflicted by this. They don't seem to understand that I don't willingly get nagged about anything, particularly ignorantly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (y7DUB)

209 President Reuven Rivlin demanded on Sunday that both Blue and White and Likud be in the next Government
Rivlin made the statement directly to representatives of Blue and White, who said they want a unity government but have been ruling out Prime Minister and Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu, because of his pending criminal charges. Rivlin reminded them that Netanyahu has not been indicted.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (Rnzal)

210 Off to mass! Back in about an hour.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (cfSRQ)

211 LadyL-

May I ask you a question ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (arJlL)

212 Israel baseball team made history Sunday, securing a spot in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics after defeating South Africa 11-1 in Italy.

Lol G-D must be watching out for his chosen people.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (Rnzal)

213 205 106 102 funny reading on vagina museum
https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
---

I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Heh. Perhaps you should snatch up an admission ticket and find out.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (MH+aB)

These are some bush league comments!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (JFO2v)

214 I thought baseball didn't make the cut for the Olympics. Huh.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (FNXDu)

215 157 'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle & Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

artemis is a dame ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (arJlL

Mr. Gordon will be quite surprised. As will Mr. West.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (MwFQu)

216 I am currently reading the New Girl by Daniel Silva and it is Gooooo-oood !


Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (arJlL)

217 204 I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Artemus Gordon
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (arJlL)

And Artemusk is extremely masculine.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (yDjHx)

218 Having made myself depressed over the Armenian genocide, and the West's ignorance of Islam, I have switched gears and bought a copy of Plain Tales from the Hills (Kipling), and am expecting Cardinal Sarah's new work in tomorrow's mail

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (U7k5w)

219 Off to mass! Back in about an hour.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Say one for us !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (arJlL)

220 Artemusk?

Masculine and smelly

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (QSzhg)

221 Liberman refuses to back Netanyahu - or Gantz - for PM
Yisrael Beytenu chief says party will not back Benny Gantz or Binyamin Netanyahu for PM, calls on Gantz not to bring Joint List into gov't.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (Rnzal)

222 My intent was not to denigrate McDonalds workers but to laugh at the pay cut brown is about to take.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (Rnzal)


If Brown and his agent had any sense he'd never have to work a day again; somehow I doubt that's the case. After the Andrew Luck situation my loathing for the NFL is at a new peak. I wish everyone would tell Goodell to fuck off.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (y7DUB)

223 214 I thought baseball didn't make the cut for the Olympics. Huh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (FNXDu)

I thot it was olympic wrestling

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (JFO2v)

224 thought baseball didn't make the cut for the Olympics. Huh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (FNXDu)

I think it was reinstated by the Japanese

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (Rnzal)

225 The quality of youth labor has dipped low enough that robot burger flippers are coming soon, in a big way. The machines are not self cleaning. Yet.

Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

226 One thing people forget about the Barbary Pirates is that they got a lease on life because all the naval powers in Europe were at war with one another throughout the 18th C. And the N African states were valuable to them as sources of supply, and occasionally as ports.

After 1815, the hammer came down.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:57 AM (VaN/j)

227 The machines are not self cleaning. Yet.
Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

Employees must wash hands. Ye really was think that happens?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:57 AM (Rnzal)

228 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 10:58 AM (u82oZ)

229 Dickens wrote Little Curiosity Shop as a magazine serial. It appears though, that by the time he wrote next week's entry he had largely forgotten what was in last week's episode.

Disjointed and meandering at best.

It also seems like he bends himself into pretzels trying to make the characters descriptions match their names.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 10:59 AM (m45I2)

230 Are the Lace Wigs Machines for Sale self cleaning?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 11:00 AM (QSzhg)

231 228 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 10:58 AM (u82oZ)

Will do.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:00 AM (yDjHx)

232 Late entry because a storm last night knocked my broadband offline.

Looks like I will lead an effort to get fiber-optic cables to my neighborhood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:00 AM (u82oZ)

233 157 'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

artemis is a dame ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (arJlL)


Certainement.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (MH+aB)

234 Are the Lace Wigs Machines for Sale self cleaning?


You're thinking of the Ugg boots.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (FNXDu)

235 225: Some are better than others. During my weekly pilgrimage to the grocery store, I got in line behind a woman whose handbag was covered in Warren 2020 stickers. The cashier was a young black woman who seemed a bit shaken by the woman ahead of me. She said she was very proud of having got the cashier job (she was well groomed, polite, efficient) and that no way would she be voting for anyone who believed her job was not worth doing and that she should go back to handouts from the government. She said she did not want her son growing up believing she was a loser. I hope she is a trend and that if she doesn't vote for her own prosperity/work, she will at least stay home.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

236 106 102 funny reading on vagina museum

https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
---
I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Sandra Fluke 7-piece luggage set.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

237 So, Eris and Oregon Muse both use close tags in their nics.

Cheaters.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:02 AM (FNXDu)

238 You're thinking of the Ugg boots.

Not if I can help it, I'm not. C'mon people, it's right there in the name!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 11:02 AM (qc+VF)

239 funny reading on vagina museum
https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
---

I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Heh. Perhaps you should snatch up an admission ticket and find out.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (MH+aB)

Is it in Regina- the Regina Vagina Museum?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 22, 2019 11:03 AM (Uu+Jp)

240 That's great CN !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 11:03 AM (arJlL)

241 217 204 I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Artemus Gordon
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (arJlL)

And Artemusk is extremely masculine.
Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (yDjHx)

And Artemish is strenuously feminine!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:04 AM (kQs4Y)

242 202 You should read your comments some time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (FNXDu)

I have posted one of their books in every directory on the Kindle Fire 10 and it will not recognize them. I know what I posted.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:04 AM (mpXpK)

243 These are some bush league comments!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (JFO2v)

They could put the museum on line. Call it "Cooternet".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:04 AM (jEgzt)

244 I hope everyone grabs the latest by Artemish.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (m45I2)

245 Artemish

Is that the art antechamber for the vagina museum?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (QSzhg)

246 The word for requited love: perhaps this is it:
redamancy: the act of loving in return

Posted by: John K Dyer at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (pwgpH)

247 She said she was very proud of having got the cashier job (she was well groomed, polite, efficient) and that no way would she be voting for anyone who believed her job was not worth doing and that she should go back to handouts from the government. She said she did not want her son growing up believing she was a loser. I hope she is a trend and that if she doesn't vote for her own prosperity/work, she will at least stay home.
Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

Nice!......seems that young lady gets it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (Z+IKu)

248 Read trash SF this week. Section G United Planets by Mack Reynolds, and Invasion: Earth and Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers both by Harry Harrison.

Do not recommend. OK only if you are a Section G story completest.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (u82oZ)

249 225
The quality of youth labor has dipped low enough that robot burger
flippers are coming soon, in a big way. The machines are not self
cleaning. Yet.

Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

Don't look now but they are already here.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

250 The word for requited love:


Post-coital depression.*





*(phrase stolen from Safire)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (FNXDu)

251 "Looks like I will lead an effort to get fiber-optic cables to my neighborhood."


That's what we did here at stately VIA Estates.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (cqNba)

252 I guess it's just me.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (m45I2)

253 246 The word for requited love: perhaps this is it:
redamancy: the act of loving in return
Posted by: John K Dyer at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (pwgpH)

Whoa. That's a $25 word.
From redamo, Latin, "love back."
I think you've got it.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (yDjHx)

254 The four living victims were hospitalized in conditions from critical to serious. All victims were male and wearing orange wristbands.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)


A new cult?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (MH+aB)

255 https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/brian-boyd-the-narcissism-of-taking-offence-by-proxy-1.2583543

Posted by: Mark Snodgrass at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (z4Qw5)

256 "A new cult?"

Party at Ed Buck's house?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (cqNba)

257 240: It was a Limbaugh worthy moment, and, I think, something the pols have been missing. People do take pride in their independence. I grew up in Michigan when it was ruled by the auto industry. Plenty of the factory workers actually liked their jobs and loved their spare time avocations that were made possible by the work. It wasn't intellectually taxing, but neither is academia these days, but there was a huge sense of pride in supporting yourself and family. I recall these people being denigrated as shop rats and the nonsense about how outsourcing would lead to Americans becoming professional and administrative workers instead...that academic theory has been a fiasco for many.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (U7k5w)

258 254 The four living victims were hospitalized in conditions from critical to serious. All victims were male and wearing orange wristbands.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

A new cult?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (MH+aB)

bad ectasy

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (JFO2v)

259 Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

------

With an attitude like that, she won't be working the register for long. Young people worth a damn are hard to find and advance quickly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (5aX2M)

260 I guess it's just me.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (m45I2)


Heh. Isn't it always?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (MH+aB)

261 "Looks like I will lead an effort to get fiber-optic cables to my neighborhood."


That's what we did here at stately VIA Estates.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (cqNba)

I wonder if fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? Would a thin strand of fiber-optic impede the flow of gas or water enough to matter?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:11 AM (jEgzt)

262
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 11:11 AM (tr0cb)

263 Nice!......seems that young lady gets it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (Z+IKu)

Yes she does. A few years back she probably never would have been considered for the job. I was encouraging with no mention of politics. These pussyheaded warren-women are naturally repellant.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:11 AM (U7k5w)

264 Is there anyone here who has successfully loaded a book into a Kindle Fire 10?

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (mpXpK)

265 "the SJWhores is demanding the government violence be used to control
someones lifes or actions. Progressives often look the other way when
another Progressive skims off the system (Joe Bidet) yet find whole
section of society guilty for their beliefs or their thoughts" posted by: rhennigantx

Right, but it is true of the "FreeTrade NeverTrumpers" as well. They pushed bottom line profit above American Liberty, and profited off China slaves and pollution. They are still fighting for open borders and bailouts of the globalist banks.


Liberty (and libertarianism?) requires a lot of civilian involvement in government, a lot of civics taught to children over several years ... our founder's concepts have been "gamed" by the deceivers of all stripes. The digital "industrial" revolution now gave a few the power to track our every action, and the fiat currency gave the banks/money runners the power to chain our children to infinite debt.


This new slavery is insidious, a cancer that has metastasized through most of government, a resident evil. tick tock.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (Cus5s)

266 With an attitude like that, she won't be working the register for long. Young people worth a damn are hard to find and advance quickly.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (5aX2M)

I hope so.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (U7k5w)

267 When Montezuma Met Cortes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:27 AM (ykYG2)




I'll conquer what he's conquering!

Posted by: Francisco Pizarro at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (pqyXj)

268 I like empty libraries. All the books to myself! Bwahahaha!!!!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (G546f)

269 A new cult?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (MH+aB)

I saw mention made of some new gay + drug fad that is happening.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (jEgzt)

270 Anyone here read William Kent Kreuger? I've been reading his books in sequence and just finished Copper River several Days ago. I thought the first three were very good, Mercy Falls and Copper River, not so much. Read some reviews of next book and it appears Kreger's inner Leftist is coming out with an anti 2A vibe. If true, that'll be it for me.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (LGXGf)

271 Jeju Island, Korea, has a sex based sculpture park. No idea if there is topiary as well.

So it might not be in the bush league.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 11:14 AM (xG/b0)

272 Flagrante Delicto if someone hadn't posted already.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:14 AM (2DOZq)

273 Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:16 AM (jEgzt)

274 264

https://ebookfriendly.com/download-free-kindle-books/

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:18 AM (JFO2v)

275 Couging it.

When your team, the Cougs, score over 60 points and still lose.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 22, 2019 11:18 AM (QkPts)

276 Greetings:

Speaking of LA and murders and such, I finished "The Lazaurus File" by a guy named McGough. It's about how the LAPD mishandled a 1986 murder investigation of a young bride. The murderer was an LAPD officer who was a previous "girlfriend" of the husband.

Two things stood out for me. One was the power of the Deep State to have things its way (for over 20 years, no less) until a young detective found the "cold case". The other, which the writer reported but different really analyze was all the things the LAPD did to bring in substantial numbers of females into the Department.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 22, 2019 11:18 AM (evgyj)

277 @270 I once heard Wm Kent K speak, and he was ranting about how we are engaged in a "civil war" with these poor people who were trying to cross our southern border. (for someone who's a college professor, he didn't seem to understand what "civil war" meant.)
Didn't even keep the freebie that was gvien out.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:19 AM (AwPyG)

278 "Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".

And then recite it while wearing a Roman Toga and laurel wreath, whilst strumming a lyre small harp thingy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:20 AM (cqNba)

279 Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:19 AM (AwPyG)

Artemis, your name has been discussed all over this thread.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:20 AM (yDjHx)

280

Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".


**********

In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

281 In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

Bravo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (jEgzt)

282 280

Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".


**********

In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

*bows down*

I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (NWiLs)

283 Muldoon is a national treasure.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (cqNba)

284 272 Flagrante Delicto if someone hadn't posted already.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:14 AM (2DOZq)

For what?

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (yDjHx)

285 Israel baseball team made history Sunday, securing a spot in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics after defeating South Africa 11-1 in Italy.

Lol G-D must be watching out for his chosen people.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (Rnzal)

Maybe they have another Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg on their team.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (2DOZq)

286 I am currently reading Nine-Tenths
by Meira Pentermann based on a SMBT moron recommendation - nicely paced, review next week.

Posted by: motionview at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (pYQR/)

287 And then recite it while wearing a Roman Toga and laurel wreath, whilst strumming a lyre small harp thingy.


**********

This is a good reason NOT to do MoMe's.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (m45I2)

288 @244
Thanks Muldoon! You are my hero.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:24 AM (AwPyG)

289 278 "Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".

And then recite it while wearing a Roman Toga and laurel wreath, whilst strumming a lyre small harp thingy.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:20 AM (cqNba)

Possible Titles:
Trim That Bush
Brazilian Deforestation

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:24 AM (JFO2v)

290 Damn that is a cool building.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 22, 2019 11:25 AM (FiUMj)

291 280

Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".


**********

In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

ha!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:25 AM (JFO2v)

292 "This is a good reason NOT to do MoMe's."

Muldoon.

Can you do a William Shatner impression?

Star Trek meets MoMee..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:25 AM (cqNba)

293 @279
Always lurking!

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

294 274 4. If you have a Kindle ereader - connect Kindle to your computer and drag the files into Documents folder inside the Kindle disc image.


This is what that site says for manually loading books in the Kindle. This does not work on the new Kindle Fire 10.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:27 AM (mpXpK)

295 Just posting this to get it in my name field. What a train wreck of a read if you've got a minute, though. The bit about Randy Weaver is especially fascinating considering the person is ostensibly writing as an ANTI-fascist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 11:27 AM (9nhoD)

296 264 Is there anyone here who has successfully loaded a book into a Kindle Fire 10?
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (mpXpK)

I mail it as an attachment in either .mobi or pdf to my kindle email with the word CONVERT in the subject line

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:29 AM (G546f)

297 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (u82oZ)

298 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

299 @215
You guys realize the original Artemis is a dame, right?

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:31 AM (AwPyG)

300 @277: That's interesting. Thanks for saving me some time that I can spend reading other authors who aren't compelled to introduce their politics into their novels. Prior to Copper River I read The Rule of Law by John Lescroart. What a Dumpster fire. Pro illegal immigrant, I.C.E bad, evil people. No attempt to even be fair in terms of presenting both sides. Just started reading Harlan Coben...hope he doesn't screw it up, too.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 11:31 AM (LGXGf)

301 298 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:31 AM (yDjHx)

302 I read the linked article about Cortez, and his final victory over the Aztec armies on the plain at Otumba, where Cortez and an army of probably less than 1,000 men defeated an Aztec Army of 200,000 by charging directly for the Aztec Leader. I wonder if Cortez had read of Alexander and Gaugamela, or if he just had the same insight under similar circumstances. Alexander was outnumbered 400,000 to 50,000, but he and his personal cavalry led a charge straight at Darius in the center. When Darius panicked and fled the battlefield, the rest of the Persian army collapsed into confusion and was routed. Similarly, once Cortez took out the Aztec leader, the Aztec army lost all command and control and scattered.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (V2Yro)

303 283 Muldoon is a national treasure.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (cqNba)


He shoulda somehow worked in 'artemis', then it woulda been perfect.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (MH+aB)

304 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

Roger the Shrubber! Paging Roger the Shrubber. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (jEgzt)

305 You guys realize the original Artemis is a dame, right?

I was diana say that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (FNXDu)

306 @300 It may be that their publishers are pushing them? My daughter's father in law is the biggest Jack Reacher fan on the planet, and he said he'll never read him again after his book went all social justice.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:33 AM (AwPyG)

307 295 Just posting this to get it in my name field. What a train wreck of a read if you've got a minute, though. The bit about Randy Weaver is especially fascinating considering the person is ostensibly writing as an ANTI-fascist.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 11:27 AM (9nhoD)

His main complaint appears to be that the highly progtarded premises contained in FC5 are insufficiently woke for his taste.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

308 I think Harlan Cohen is a good guy--he and his wife are very involved in charitable giving in the Chicago area. I haven't read him, though.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:34 AM (AwPyG)

309 296 it comes back as a Document and if you don't see it on your Home screen you can look for it in Docs under Send-to-Kindle

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:34 AM (G546f)

310 298 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

Got to wax the floors.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:34 AM (NWiLs)

311 ...and just what is Sundays improve your vocabulary word today?

IS


depends what it means

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:35 AM (5IHGB)

312 Alberta Oil Peon
"fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? "

Technically, yes in water. But it will be much more expensive, and results in two separate utility entries fighting over repair, capacity, and maintenance.

Electrical signal booster boxes near gas lines? Do not recommend.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:36 AM (u82oZ)

313 Insomniac

Find the kets so we can drive out.

A Sandra Fluke punchline.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:37 AM (u82oZ)

314 Well done, Muldoon and saf.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:37 AM (kQs4Y)

315 Looking above at the discussion of getting Twain to your Kindle, I've read many books from Gutenberg.org. Never tried to transfer a file directly to the device. What I did was email to my Kindle address.

You can get that from your Amazon account. Log in, choose Your Content and Devices, click the Devices tab, then click the device and it will display the email address associated with it.

Posted by: John Taloni at September 22, 2019 11:38 AM (/Nhc5)

316 Electrical signal booster boxes near gas lines? Do not recommend.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:36 AM (u82oZ)

My gas meter now at home has an electrical box on it to send usage data to the co-op via the cell network.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (jEgzt)

317 Thanks Mssr Taloni, I did not know that!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (kQs4Y)

318 VIA, anything special about your cable install?

You can email me your letter that started it all off, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (u82oZ)

319 Always lurking!
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:26 AM (AwPyG)


This makes me happy.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (MH+aB)

320 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This occurs in almost every new release.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)

321 229 Dickens wrote Little Curiosity Shop as a magazine serial. It appears though, that by the time he wrote next week's entry he had largely forgotten what was in last week's episode.

Disjointed and meandering at best.

It also seems like he bends himself into pretzels trying to make the characters descriptions match their names.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 10:59 AM (m45I2)

This book was the source of one of Oscar Wilde's most memorable quotes. The book's climax at the end is the Death of "Little Nell", which is related in the most overwrought intentionally tear jerking way. A critic of the day had written "A man would have to have a heart of stone not to cry at the death of Little Nell."

To which Oscar Wilde countered, "On the contrary, one must have a heart of stone to read the Death of Little Nell without laughing!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:41 AM (V2Yro)

322 319 Always lurking!
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

This makes me happy.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (MH+aB)

Hear tell she's a goddess.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:41 AM (yDjHx)

323 By happenstance ...

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 11:42 AM (3XdZI)

324 @300 It may be that their publishers are pushing them?+++++Yeah, I've often wondered about this. To the point, in fact, that I've speculated that many rock-ribbed conservative writers are never published at all. Even though one would think that revenue would be the big motivator, with the Left, dogma is everything. I, too, thought the early Jack Reacher novels were outstanding. Though I'll still read them, they are not nearly as good as they once were.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 11:44 AM (LGXGf)

325 'Hap' is also the origin of HAPPY, which originally referred to people or events that appeared to be blessed with good fortune.




Well I never kept a dollar past sunset

It always burned a hole in my pants

Never made a school mama happy

Never blew a second chance, oh no



I need a love to keep me happy

I need a love to keep me happy

Baby, baby keep me happy

Baby, baby keep me happy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 11:44 AM (S6/o1)

326
I wonder if fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? Would a thin strand of fiber-optic impede the flow of gas or water enough to matter?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


It would be difficult to repair a broken cable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

327 Artemis - Goddess of the hunt, the hills, and the moon

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:30 AM (G546f)



And James West's partner in the Wild Wild West

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (S6/o1)

328
211 LadyL-

May I ask you a question ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (arJlL)


Are you still here, JT?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (TdMsT)

329 Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

330 Happy:
Weird Al, "Tacky" parody of "Happy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7Eki5EZ8o
Which is hilarious.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (yDjHx)

331 316 Alberta Oil Peon

Heh. I was wrong. Thanks, Alberta Oil Peon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (u82oZ)

332 329 Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

The unfavorable references to bad characters are usually gratuitous. I feel as if I'm surrounded by hate.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (TdMsT)

333 @324
I teach workshops for aspiring authors, and I explain that it all depends on what your goal is. If you want to be published in NY, you have to come up with a story that would be appealing to a Manhattanite. If you want to write romance or science fiction (where all the voracious readers are) self-publish and get on kindle.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:49 AM (AwPyG)

334 https://www.larryelder.com/news/getting-real-about-reparations-by-roger-d-mcgrath/

Check out roger McGrath on reparations
Some darn good history

Posted by: Sam at September 22, 2019 11:49 AM (UoOyP)

335 It would be difficult to repair a broken cable.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

OTOH, cables would be less likely to break, because protected inside a pipe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:50 AM (jEgzt)

336 Chores await.

Thank you, OregonMuse.

The book thread is the ne plus ultra of AoSHQ threads, IMHO.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (u82oZ)

337 I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

I've noticed something along the same lines in British TV series and movies over the last 20 years (and here in America too, although it seems more prevalent over there) If it's a murder mystery or something similar, and they introduce a character with a clerical collar early on, then you know he's going to be revealed as the killer at the end. It's so predictable that if I was watching something where a character like this was introduced, I'd just fast forward to the end to see if I was right, and I always was. Yawn.

Hey script writers - it's not a "big surprise" if you try to pull off the same "big surprise" 50 or 60 times in a row.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (V2Yro)

338 I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

this has been going on for a long time in fantasy and sf fiction - villains are rednecks or right wing businessmen or Christians

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (G546f)

339 320 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This occurs in almost every new release.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)


Ah yes, the "'Law and Order' syndrome", just like you see on TV!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:52 AM (EhCx2)

340 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is
unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a
character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This
occurs in almost every new release.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)


that is because referring to him a Jew with a hooked nose clutching a money bag and stroking his beard is a little too obvious.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 11:52 AM (xG/b0)

341 Who woulda thunk we Finns can't read. Arvo and Toivo beg to differ.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 22, 2019 11:52 AM (C1Lsn)

342 Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (u82oZ)

( *blushes* )

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:53 AM (EhCx2)

343
Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared
toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them
expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil
character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)


Hollywood: Sounds familiar...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 11:56 AM (S6/o1)

344 Just finished True Grit. Damn that is a great read.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (GrQSw)

345 326
I wonder if fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? Would a thin strand of fiber-optic impede the flow of gas or water enough to matter?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

It would be difficult to repair a broken cable.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

Most mind blowing repair attempt I ever knew of (and they ended up getting it done within 24 hours); where I live about 20 -25 years ago all the data links for the entire city came in from one major trunk line buried under a highway right of way, which had 2400 separate fiber optic cables in it. Well Jethro who lived about 5 miles out of town wanted to build a new driveway to his mobile home, and he figured all those signs saying "CALL THIS NUMBER BEFORE DIGGING HERE!!!" were meant for other people, not him, so he went all the way through that cable with a backhoe. (He said he thought it was just a big tree root)

All 2400 of those fiber-optic lines had to be matched and spliced before anyone in the city could have internet access again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (V2Yro)

346 Just starting A Republic, If You Can Keep it byNeil Gorsuch. He is a great and humble man who loves America deeply.

Posted by: LASue at September 22, 2019 12:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

347 @343
and the NFL, too. It's always interesting to me that the players, actors or authors know they will make more money if they just keep their politics to themselves, can't help themselves. To me, it's a big clue that they hold their followers in contempt.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 12:01 PM (AwPyG)

348 I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)


It probably won't do any good. The publishing industry is run by depressed, middle-aged feminists who are all trying to burnish their woke credentials. There's all kinds of woke/sjw/diversity guidelines that books must be written in accordance with, otherwise they simply won't get published.

What you need to do is to stop buying them. When an author you're reading goes woke, that should be the last book of theirs you should by. Don't make a big public, virtual-signalling stink about it, just spend your money elsewhere.

It's what I do with TV. As soon as a show starts showing explicit sex or introduces a homosexual plot or subplot, click, off it goes. Netflix or Amazon Prime can probably look into my account and see when I stop watching their shows. If they were interested in knowing.

Try to find books recommended by normal people. I would suggest the, ahem, AoSHQ Sunday Morning Book Thread as a good source for this.

IMO.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:02 PM (EhCx2)

349 332 329 Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

The unfavorable references to bad characters are usually gratuitous. I feel as if I'm surrounded by hate.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (TdMsT)

I hate it too. Forget that it's presumptuous and insulting to half your audience -- it's jarring and takes me out of the story.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

350 344 Just finished True Grit. Damn that is a great read.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (GrQSw)


Right? This is why I like the Coen Bros. film version. It sticks pretty close to the book.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (EhCx2)

351 With the British authors, it's not just scorning Conservatives and assuming Liberal Party membership for your "good" characters. One must praise the NHS.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

352 What you need to do is to stop buying them. When an author you're reading goes woke, that should be the last book of theirs you should by. Don't make a big public, virtual-signalling stink about it, just spend your money elsewhere.

==

a negative review on Amazon is helpful feedback
just don't use your real name in case the author 's rabud fans doxx you

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:05 PM (G546f)

353 One must praise the NHS.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

:eyeroll:

so creepy
I didn't realize how creepy the NHS cult was until the 2012 Olympics

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:06 PM (G546f)

354 I would suggest the, ahem, AoSHQ Sunday Morning Book Thread as a good source for this.
---

But the COB is so agenda-driven! He can be insufferable.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)

355 296 I mail it as an attachment in either .mobi or pdf to my kindle email with the word CONVERT in the subject line

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:29 AM (G546f)

Could not get that to work either. I'll try again later.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:08 PM (mpXpK)

356 But the COB is so agenda-driven!


It's pants pants pants all the time an oppression of les sans culottes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:09 PM (FNXDu)

357 But the COB is so agenda-driven! He can be insufferable.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)


I know, he's a big pain in the butt. Just ask his wife!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:09 PM (EhCx2)

358 Are we going to host an Olympics during the Reign of Trump? It might be nice to have an opening ceremony that's upbeat, optimistic, and doesn't wallow in self-flagellation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:10 PM (kQs4Y)

359 350
344 Just finished True Grit. Damn that is a great read.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (GrQSw)

Right? This is why I like the Coen Bros. film version. It sticks pretty close to the book.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (EhCx2)


I liked the John Wayne version better because the new one was so depressing.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:10 PM (mpXpK)

360 @352a negative review on Amazon is helpful feedback+++++
True. I find that reading the three or even two star reviews weeds out the groupies and gets you a fairer appraisal of the book in question.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 12:11 PM (LGXGf)

361 Vic, fyi I just realized you said kindle fire 10 - I have a fire 8

the emailing thing has always worked for me on any kindle reader though

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:11 PM (G546f)

362 While 102 minutes seems to be a good book, trust me, Jim Dwyer is a leftist piece of trash reporter.

Posted by: mercenary13 at September 22, 2019 12:12 PM (Ur9Bc)

363 @343
and the NFL, too. It's always interesting to me that the players, actors or authors know they will make more money if they just keep their politics to themselves, can't help themselves. To me, it's a big clue that they hold their followers in contempt.
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 12:01 PM (AwPyG)


Some might do it because they believe it. Others are trying to keep the crocodile busy. They will turn on each other at the slightest hint of insufficient wokeness, and they have a quota to keep.

Posted by: hogmartin will be sad if you don't register for the fall MIMoMe at September 22, 2019 12:12 PM (t+qrx)

364 2020 (Summer): Tokyo, Japan.
2022 (Winter): Beijing, China.
2024 (Summer): Paris, France.
2026 (Winter): TBD.
2028 (Summer): Los Angeles, United States.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 12:12 PM (yDjHx)

365 I did a review off a Michelle Malkin book on Amazon one time. The only book review I ever done. I got so much shit from liberal assholes I never reviewed another.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:13 PM (mpXpK)

366 Like I was saying

Posted by: hogmartin sometimes forgets to reset his nick at September 22, 2019 12:13 PM (t+qrx)

367 The company I work for has been putting in fiber optics lines in any utility ditch they have access to. We have several new rural areas with fiber now. Individual cables are about the thickness of a hair. And every fiber optic cut I've been through was a 24 hour repair. I think I've seen six in my career, at a couple of different companies. Current company now has redundancy, so we are usually up when the other companies aren't.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2019 12:13 PM (Lqy/e)

368 361
Vic, fyi I just realized you said kindle fire 10 - I have a fire 8



the emailing thing has always worked for me on any kindle reader though

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:11 PM (G546f)

The bad thing I think is that it is a new version. I used to manually load books on my old Kindle and on my Samsung e-reader no problem.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:14 PM (mpXpK)

369 Like I was saying

As I was saying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, who grammar-nazis when bored at September 22, 2019 12:16 PM (FNXDu)

370 so creepy

I didn't realize how creepy the NHS cult was until the 2012 Olympics
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:06 PM (G546f)


Yeah, we used to watch the Brit show 'Call The Midwife', and for the first couple of seasons, they always found some reason to have one of the characters tell the audience how wonderful the NHS is. Every. Single. Episode. It was like it was a requirement from the BBC that they had to follow.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:16 PM (EhCx2)

371 new one

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 12:17 PM (yDjHx)

372 It's what I do with TV. As soon as a show starts showing explicit sex or introduces a homosexual plot or subplot, click, off it goes. Netflix or Amazon Prime can probably look into my account and see when I stop watching their shows. If they were interested in knowing.

I quit netflix completely about a year ago, and I haven't missed it. At all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (V2Yro)

373 Nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 12:19 PM (gzG43)

374 372 I quit netflix completely about a year ago, and I haven't missed it. At all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (V2Yro)

My wife signed up for that without consulting me. I watched one program that was "made for Netflix". Never watched another. Their movies were all old ones that if I liked them I already had them on disk.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:20 PM (mpXpK)

375 Midsommer Murders can be an enjoyable show. But yeah Christian faith does get short shift oft times.

The hen-pecked minister who had a fling in his youth finds out who killed his illegitimate child and thus becomes an avenging angel.

Or a child who might have a gift for second sight and the minister is determined to save the baby from Hell no matter whom he must kill.

A series of grisly murders carried out by a jilted lover. The minister turns out to be the former gay lover of the local landed noble.

Even a female minister gets in on sin by illegally entering a house to find the dirt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (QSzhg)

376 358 Are we going to host an Olympics during the Reign of Trump? It might be nice to have an opening ceremony that's upbeat, optimistic, and doesn't wallow in self-flagellation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:10 PM (kQs4Y)


I'd do anything if it would get us an Olympic opening ceremony with this in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVToLGzZdXE

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (EhCx2)

377 I knew it would be Trumpus Imperator, OM!

God, how I would love for the Blue Angels to fly overhead leaving red, white, and blue contrails as Maximus enters the coliseum.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:27 PM (kQs4Y)

378 I'd do anything if it would get us an Olympic opening ceremony with this in it:


I'm not usually one of the Big Tech Hates Us guys, but the first caption here is "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government".

What about the name Russian Television confused you, Sparky?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (FNXDu)

379 365 Going that far would only encourage me more

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 12:30 PM (ZCEU2)

380 Belay that shit. I refuse to have my word taken away from me and redefined by people who are opposed to me.



Libertarianism is about maximum practicable power in the hands of
the individual. Communism is about total power in the hand of the state.
They are in fact opposites.



I don't care what you've "studied". You're reading it wrong.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (FNXDu)

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It's not "your word." It's reality.

Politics, like nature, abhors a vacuum. Libertarianism believes that if state power is curbed, somehow (miraculously?) individuals our groups of them outside of the state won't take over that space.

We're now seeing that first-hand.

Instead of the state, syndicates have gained the commanding heights of society and decide what we can and cannot say, also what we can and cannot buy.

This is consistent with the end-state of Libertarian Communism, with a vanguard leadership being the leaders of interlocking syndicates.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 12:33 PM (cfSRQ)

381 My wife, the lovely and gracious Annalucia, and I are reading aloud Rick Atkinson's "The British Are Coming", which is the first volume in what will be a trilogy on the Revolutionary War. Volume 1 covers the lead-up to Lexington/Concord in 1775 through Princeton in 1777. Atkinson points out the atrocities and blunders on both sides, but it's clear that his heart is with the Patriots. And he spins a cracking good yarn. Highly recommended!

Posted by: Borwn Line at September 22, 2019 12:36 PM (S6ArX)

382 Keith Richards is more well-read than you think and has a particular interest in military history --especially the American Civil War. Mick Jagger is and always has been a voracious reader too.

I don't know why people are surprised.

For all the trappings of the rock star life that they are now known for, these guys grew up and were educated in 1940's and 1950's Britain and must have regularly gone to the library and been assigned all sorts of books.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 22, 2019 12:37 PM (NFEMn)

383 Off Joe Biden sock.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 12:37 PM (NFEMn)

384 Jagger studied at the London School of Economics.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (FNXDu)

385 Nothing but Deuteronomy this past week, for a Bible study. With luck, this week will be lighter on work, and I'll be able to wrap up the last Perry Mason novel I got from 5he library.

I actually walked out of a used-book store yesterday without buying anything. I did consider getting one Keith Laumer collection but decided that I need to thin the TBR stack first. Besides, I don't think that book will be going anywhere anytime soon.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (zbyVY)

386 Muldoon gets extra stars for use of dodecahedral.

As usual these days, I get caught up on comments just as the Horde scurries on to the next thread. Well, better read than read.

Posted by: mindful webworker at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (GWm7j)

387 "I'm in book 7 of Herodotus and, once you get through his magical mystery
tour of the world in the early books and he talks about things he's
more familiar with, he's a very engaging writer at least in translation."
Captain, are you reading the Landmark edition of Herodotus? If not, I suggest you look into it. You probably can get a used copy for relatively little. The maps and footnotes in Landmark are a great help to the modern reader (or to me, anyway) in keeping what is literally a cast of thousands straight.
Also, if you like Book 7, just wait till you gt to Thermopylae and Salamis!

Posted by: Borwn Line at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (S6ArX)

388 375
Midsommer Murders can be an enjoyable show. But yeah Christian faith does get short shift oft times.



Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (QSzhg)

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A certain type of person looks at people of faith and says: "They don't *really* buy into that."

It's largely a failure of imagination. People look at the evil within themselves and assume everyone else is worse.

See also: feminists thinking conservative men must be worse than the pervert "feminist men" they surround themselves with.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (cfSRQ)

389 a vanguard leadership being the leaders of interlocking syndicates.

ROLEERBALL! ROLLERBALL!

Posted by: Pendulous Richard at September 22, 2019 12:47 PM (UFLLM)

390 @215
You guys realize the original Artemis is a dame, right?
Posted by: artemis

I do now !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (arJlL)

391 Captain, are you reading the Landmark edition of Herodotus? If not, I suggest you look into it. You probably can get a used copy for relatively little. The maps and footnotes in Landmark are a great help to the modern reader (or to me, anyway) in keeping what is literally a cast of thousands straight.
Also, if you like Book 7, just wait till you gt to Thermopylae and Salamis!

Posted by: Borwn Line at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (S6ArX)


I've got a library copy of the Landmark that I use for maps and illustrations while reading an Oxford translation which has pretty good footnotes. Thanks for the advice anyway, though.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (y7DUB)

392 I didn't see anyone post it but I think the word they're looking for requited love is redamancy.

Posted by: Grue at September 22, 2019 01:40 PM (ks/TQ)

393 Sam at September 22, 2019 11:49 AM (UoOyP)

I knew some of the facts concerning slavery in the US but the extent of Cherokee, etc. slave-owning was much greater than I thought. McGrath does a great job of pointing out the lies in modern "education" that youngsters are being force-fed these days.

Posted by: Grannymimi at September 22, 2019 01:42 PM (u5LFV)

394 "I'm talking about the Aztecs, of course, and whatever you think about Hernando Cortez, he did the world a favor by eliminating them as a regional threat. Personally, I believe that God frequently uses evil men to stop other men who are even more evil, so the end result is a net increase in human happiness"

That is complete nonsense. One can pile up all the people sacrificed by the Aztecs and it would amount to a fraction of a fraction of a fraction for the body count of Hapsburg Spain. They waged war from the Mississippi to the Rio Plata, from Spain to Hungary, and eagerly practiced their own form of human sacrifice in the immolations of the auto-da-fe. The Aztecs might not have been cuddly New Age-types, but they didn't apply their savagery across four continents.
"Net increase in human happiness..." ridiculous.

Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (AvdK2)

395 And boulder t'hobo....
....
Mathew Restall is an excellent source. Very good.
What the Mexica and the Maya adopted was not a pristine Catholicism, but rather an invented syncretism of Catholic and Native religions. The Virgin of Guadelupe started out as an Aztec Goddess. Saint Simon is a baptized Maya God, God L, Ek Chuah. To the missionaries of the time, it was good enough.

Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:17 PM (AvdK2)

396 I don't think the Spanish have a word like xochiyaoyotl in their vocabulary but the Aztecs did. To have ritual wars with neighboring tribes to ensure there were enough sacrifices from captured prisoners for the altars and then dress it all up by calling it a Flowery War.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 02:28 PM (QSzhg)

397 "I don't think the Spanish have a word like xochiyaoyotl in their vocabulary but the Aztecs did."

Northern Europe did! It's "Tournament", as interpreted circa 1200 AD.

This is mentioned in Jonathan Phillips in the leadup to the Fourth Crusade, another instance where stupid infighting cityfolk invite thousands of armed, hungry, and frightened Catholics into their homes.

The moral of the story is: don't do that. At least not without a Plan B.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (ykYG2)

398 Admittedly Europeans weren't in the habit of sacrificing the losers of a tournament, like Mesoamericans were. Let's just say that in the Maya NBA, the trophy for the second placed team was the second placed team...

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 03:20 PM (ykYG2)

399 "Net increase in human happiness..." ridiculous.
Posted by: Keith Eppich


I disagreed with you in an earlier Book Thread on this topic, but post-Restall I've come around to agreeing with you that the Conquest wasn't worth the slaughter.

Now, as for whether Restall is "excellent", he miscounted the sacrificial actions of the Mexica (and other Nahua! Tlaxcala was just as bad) and, as Anna Puma pointed out, the general psychotic dysfunction of Mesoamerican society. Antonio Brown has not, to my knowledge, been sacrificed on top of a pyramid in Boston for being an ass.

Also as Tom Servo has mentioned, which Restall failed to mention (properly), the Battle of Otompan was a thing. It proves that Cortes wasn't the beta male that Restall had portrayed up to then. Restall needs to answer for his own unethical behaviour, for omitting that, or at least for relegating it to a sneer on "picture #6".

I am hoping that a synthesis can be made, and a true biography of Cortes can be written.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 03:50 PM (ykYG2)

400 Battle Officer Wolf? Apparently it isn't printed.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at September 22, 2019 04:42 PM (rsewL)

401
The Fabulous Clipjoint, first published in 1947, is a noir thriller and Edgar Award-winner by master mystery and science fiction author Fredric Brown (1906-1972). The book centers on a young man's search for the killer or killers of his father, which the police have dismissed as a random murder in a Chicago back-alley. The Fabulous Clipjoint, Brown's first full-length novel, is the first book in a series of 7 featuring the nephew and uncle team of detectives Ed and Ambrose Hunter.
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at September 22, 2019 09:15 AM (FXjhj)

Interesting! I'll have to see if I can find these. Thanks, Hans!

Posted by: Gem at September 22, 2019 04:46 PM (XoAz8)

402 88
That Finnish library image made me think: it's a Baroque interior, but
somehow we can tell just by looking at it that it's a Northern culture
rather than Mediterranean. I can't put my finger on any specific detail,
but you just know that interior's north of the Alps.
Trimegistus-
thought for a moment I was back in St. Petersburg, Russia when I saw the library so yes it does have the north of the alps look.

Posted by: Charlotte at September 22, 2019 04:48 PM (Rwqrz)

403 Miley might be thinking of VAUNTPARLER. The definition doesn't quite fit, but it is fun to say. There's also outrage appropriation and offense-by-proxy.

Posted by: Abby Normal at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (zLLOw)

404 320 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This occurs in almost every new release.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)

This has been going on for twenty years.

Posted by: Gem at September 22, 2019 05:21 PM (XoAz8)

405 The Aztecs might not have been cuddly New Age-types, but they didn't apply their savagery across four continents.
"Net increase in human happiness..." ridiculous.
Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (AvdK2)


Sorry, greedy murderous Spaniards plus murderous, cannibalistic Aztecs minus murderous, cannibalistic Aztecs equals greedy murderous Spaniards alone. That's still a net plus.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 05:25 PM (EhCx2)

406 The Aztecs might not have been cuddly New Age-types, but they didn't apply their savagery across four continents.
Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (AvdK2)


I'm
sure this would've been a great source of comfort to the surrounding
tribes whom the Aztecs regularly raided for sacrificial victims.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 05:31 PM (EhCx2)

407 Well hell OM, it seems the book thread has gone a bit downhill.

heh

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 05:57 PM (cknjq)

408 "the opposite of unrequited love" = sex

Though that might not be as close to accurate for women as it is for men.

Yes, another difference between men and women!

GF (who actually loves me) said (after the opposite of unrequited love): "Sometimes I love your _____ more than I love you," to which I responded "heh heh."

Then I opined to her that: "If a man said that to a woman she would cry." She said "true." And we both laughed.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (wh9C3)

409 Synonym for "Requited Love": Redamancy

Posted by: Greg Hamlin at September 22, 2019 08:22 PM (huT5s)

410 I finished Memoirs of Pontius Pilate: A Novel by James R. Adams. This is a real "snowball" book -- the author takes his time setting up the background history of Pilate's rule as procurator and his meeting with Jesus Christ, but once it is in place, the book really moves. I never knew how many "messiahs" came before Jesus, which probably explains Pilate's initial flippant attitude toward Him.

Also Twenty Years on Broadway (And the Years It Took to Get There) by George M. Cohan.

As serialized in Liberty magazine in 1924. I originally read seven of the 10 installments years ago, but decided to reread it now that I have it complete.

It's a rollicking read, and a marvelous evocation of the vaudeville and theater world in the late 19th and early 20th century. I loved George's account of his parents Jerry and Nellie Cohan, and how he and his sister Josephine were gradually integrated into their act. Something I didn't know: Josephine was the only member of the family who worked steadily, and supported her whole family for a season on the road. Cohan loved his parents, and he especially loved Josie, who was a real confidante to him. It's fun and touching to see that love manifested in their stage work. They had a lot of fun together.

Having seen the movie Yankee Doodle Dandy, I recognized most of the scenes and some of the dialogue in the book. The screenwriters really leaned heavily on this account of Cohan's life for the movie.

Posted by: DynamiteDan at September 22, 2019 09:04 PM (jMtvt)

411 Last! Meh, probably not. I haven't been able to make it here in the mor