Food Thread: Salumi When You're Gloomy, Or When You're Feeling Roomy, 'Cause This Headline Threw Me

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When it comes to food and eating, the Italians get most things right, and salumi is no exception. It's just cured or preserved meat, much like French charcuterie or German Pökelfleisch (yeah, I had to look that up) and many other countries do the same sort of stuff.

But the Italian style stuff is, in my gluttonous opinion, the best of the lot. Notice I say "Italian style," because the stuff in that photo is a local version. The only imported meat on that platter is the prosciutto, and it was far inferior to the New Jersey salami and soppressata.

One of the nice things about putting together a platter like this one is that you get to try a bunch of different things without getting so stuffed that it is impossible to eat the rest of the meal. I got these meats sliced very thin, so each piece is a tiny taste, but with lots of surface area so it seems like it is a substantial taste.

And those olives? Castelvetranos, originally from Italy, which I think are superior to the famous Picholines from France.

The cheese is a Pecorino Romano, which is a sheep's milk cheese from, you guessed it, Italy! It has a nice sharp tang and a great texture. I like cutting it into those short sticks because you get the texture as well as the flavor.

The ramekins of olive oil and balsamic vinegar are optional, but they look cool, so what the hell.

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As usual, the highest highest expression of French Toast is its savory style, which isn't tainted by the foul exudation of some tree.
Parmesan French Toast
Come on...admit it...it looks great!
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Misanthropic Humanitarian sent this to me, and I'll be damned! It makes cabbage look great. I am definitely going to try this, mostly because anything with Parmesan and garlic has a very good chance of being tasty, but also because I can feel virtuous while actually eating something that tastes good, as opposed to some quinoa salad with chopped bark and a raw water dressing.
Parmesan Garlic Cabbage
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I have been experimenting with tequila and orange, and while I haven't created anything memorable, the drinks have been at least pleasant. I shake small chunks of cut orange with the peel, some tequila, a splash of agave nectar and a tablespoon of Cointreau. To counter the sweetness of the orange I have been using about a dozen drops of Thai Bitters, which adds a zing that I really enjoy, but that might not be everyone's cup of tea. I think I will try fresh jalapeno next, because that sounds so damned authentic, and I like the flavor.

Anyway, I haven't nailed this one yet, so any input from my fellow drinkers would be much appreciated.

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1 Foist?

Posted by: Don Q at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (NgKpN)

2 Looks undercooked.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)

3 Looks good.

Posted by: HH at July 22, 2018 04:00 PM (mIJBI)

4 Oh it's salami. Never mind.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 04:00 PM (/qEW2)

5 You forgot the haloumi!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2018 04:01 PM (W+vEI)

6 What's the difference between salumi and salami?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 04:01 PM (sdi6R)

7 Oooops - "halloumi."

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2018 04:02 PM (W+vEI)

8 Salami on a hoagie is good

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 04:02 PM (pHfeF)

9 >>>Castelvetranos

are the best

Posted by: concrete girl at July 22, 2018 04:03 PM (BVthB)

10 Are = Or?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 04:03 PM (rbgPC)

11 Ah, the summer sausage edition.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:05 PM (yQpMk)

12 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 04:03 PM (rbgPC)

Thanks....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 04:05 PM (wYseH)

13 and why is it called summer sausage you might ask.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:06 PM (yQpMk)

14 Went to a local restaurant last weekend that had an awesome cold cuts tray. the salad was awesome as well. Rare for me to rave about a salad. Neapolitan style cuisine.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 04:06 PM (EhZNT)

15 Cabbage recipe looks great.

Posted by: JT in KC at July 22, 2018 04:06 PM (FoSz+)

16 >>Come on...admit it...it looks great!


Yes, it looks good! French toast is a cousin of bread pudding and strata, and there are savory versions of those. Eggs + bread + ???? = endless yummies!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2018 04:07 PM (W+vEI)

17 and why is it called summer sausage you might ask


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always wondered about that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 04:07 PM (EhZNT)

18 Because pepperoni and salami are fermented to use up all the sugar and increase the acidity to the point that it doesn't need refrigeration.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:07 PM (yQpMk)

19 That table with a long roll, onions, tomatoes, other cheese, hot and or sweet peppers oregano and you got yourself a good sammy

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 04:08 PM (pHfeF)

20 That's why pepperoni, hard salami, and the venerable beef stick are so tangy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:09 PM (yQpMk)

21 Gabbagool!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2018 04:09 PM (QLvwG)

22 Well now I want a salami sammich!

Funny to see the foodies in paroxysms of lust over what used to be considered a Gio Sixpack lunchbox staple.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 04:09 PM (gUCYC)

23 Castelvetrano = pro-tier olives.

Also man, that cob gig isn't too shabby. Lookit all that granite, like a swell, this guy.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:09 PM (y87Qq)

24 Poking around the spice cabinet I found a packet of spices for a Mexican tortilla soup - chicken, tomatoes, onion, pepper, celery tops, & tequila. So I got that in the slow cooker now.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:09 PM (Izzlo)

25 that's also why there is a difference between cotta (meaning cooked) salami and hard salami. Cotta is not fermented and must be kept cold.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (yQpMk)

26 On your bread, on your bread
Salami, salami, salami
Hey, hey
What's on your bread, on your bread
Salami, salami, salami
Hey, hey, hey
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Hey, oh, ya, ya-a etc

Posted by: The Cranberries at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (NL6wI)

27 13 and why is it called summer sausage you might ask.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:06 PM (yQpMk)

Go on...

Posted by: Shep! at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (Izzlo)

28 Love cold cuts.

Salami, ham, bologna, head cheese, fumunda cheese, it's all good.

Well, maybe not the fumunda cheese, too aromatic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (EoRCO)

29 Bring me all of it.



In a bucket.

Posted by: Mr. Creosote at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (QLvwG)

30 I enjoyed yesterday's Chess & Cheesesteaks thread.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 04:11 PM (sdi6R)

31 Man, that antipasti platter looks great for a summer afternoon snack/early meal!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 04:11 PM (b3Pum)

32 Looflighter? We call those heat guns.
$25 at Lowes

Posted by: Marty McFly at July 22, 2018 04:12 PM (VWE5i)

33 Well, maybe not the fumunda cheese, too aromatic.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (EoRCO)

Also harvesting it can be nauseating.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 04:12 PM (EhZNT)

34
that's also why there is a difference between cotta (meaning cooked)
salami and hard salami. Cotta is not fermented and must be kept cold.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:10 PM (yQpMk)


*Johnny Carson voice* I did not know that.


The things you learn on this smart-mil and elbows shelving blog.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2018 04:12 PM (QLvwG)

35 @32 Yeah, but do those heat guns have built-in bottle openers?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 22, 2018 04:12 PM (NL6wI)

36 The manufacturing methods for some cheeses are just nauseating.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:13 PM (yQpMk)

37 Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:07 PM (yQpMk

Cool.

the more you know...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 04:13 PM (EhZNT)

38 Any cheese that requires that it be maggot ridden is just a non-starter for me.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:14 PM (yQpMk)

39 and yes, there is such a thing, several actually.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:15 PM (yQpMk)

40 38 Any cheese that requires that it be maggot ridden is just a non-starter for me.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:14 PM (yQpMk)


It's fortified with extra protein.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 04:15 PM (sdi6R)

41 salami salami baloney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGHGXyuH98

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 04:16 PM (0ogQG)

42 I looked into getting a soppressata a while ago but the tax stamp/NFA/trust thing is so confusing.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:17 PM (y87Qq)

43
The manufacturing methods for some cheeses are just nauseating.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:13 PM (yQpMk)

True...but let's face it, salumi is pretty disgusting too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 04:17 PM (wYseH)

44 Safeway had some beef/bacon blend patties so I have one cookin' up as we speak. We'll see how it compares to my local butcher's proprietary blend.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 04:17 PM (gUCYC)

45 If you hide the salami and she revokes consent the next day, is it still rape?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

46 For those concerned about the fire at Hilt CA and the fate of All Star Liquors, the fire stopped 1/2 mile away. I was able to restock and resupply my home necessities.

Posted by: Hal Dall at July 22, 2018 04:17 PM (JktGI)

47 Any cheese that requires that it be maggot ridden is just a non-starter for me.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:14 PM (yQpMk)

There are foods out there that are shockingly horrible. Like one I heard about, a fertilized duck egg allowed to reach near full gestation, then they do something to the bird inside that kills it and it gels, or something. heard about it on the radio, and I can't remember what it was called, but I dern near vomited up my groceries just hering about it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 04:18 PM (EhZNT)

48 I had a cold hot dog for lunch. Last night I split one open and heated it + string cheese and then topped with dijon mustard. Tonight if its not raining it will be my version of bison/bacon burgers on the grill and supermarket tater salad. Too hot to cook inside, I'm too lazy to arrange a fancy cold cuts meal.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 22, 2018 04:18 PM (r4KP2)

49 Best ham ever?

Imported Polish Ham. Krakus.

Trust me. I know things.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2018 04:18 PM (AHNMM)

50 I've been eating "keto" for the last week and a half; no carbs or sugar, but LOTS of delicious butter, cheese and meat. Love the tray!

Posted by: the Butcher at July 22, 2018 04:18 PM (01U56)

51 Poor Main Street is still mostly boarded up after the flood. Luckily the wine shop at the top of the hill is open, so in the interest of supporting our local economy I got some beer and mead.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 04:19 PM (gUCYC)

52 Here where I live the local Walmart has the best genoa salami in their deli. so weird that the other grocery store meat/deli counter has by far the best other types of meats.

Posted by: morigu at July 22, 2018 04:20 PM (N/con)

53 I will eat cheese that has molded, as long as it's a green, blue-green, or white mold. Black or red mold goes straight in the trash.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:20 PM (yQpMk)

54 I make my own salami and whole muscle charcuterie using these bags that, once stuffed, just sit on a wire shelf in your fridge until they lose 30-40% of their starting weight. I used recipes from the Michael Ruhlman "Charcuterie" book. Great stuff, lasts forever in the fridge shrink wrapped. Did a capicola/gobbagoul too that is good as well. I guess they started it for dry aging steaks but I haven't tried that yet.

http://tinyurl.com/yanp92bn

Posted by: dartist at July 22, 2018 04:21 PM (K22Va)

55 53 I will eat cheese that has molded, as long as it's a green, blue-green, or white mold. Black or red mold goes straight in the trash.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:20 PM (yQpMk)

Black Mold Matters

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:21 PM (Izzlo)

56 Summer Sausage is good for keto as it has essentially no carbs. Gorge yourself.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 04:21 PM (yQpMk)

57
You talk like a foodie and your tastebuds are all mixed up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 04:21 PM (r+sAi)

58 My sister had a calendar from a Hamtramck deli that read "For breakfast, lunch, and dinner, or any time in between, IT'S PORK TIME FOR YOU."

So of course that became one of our signature buzz phrases.

Gimme all you money or it's pork time for you, dollface!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 04:21 PM (gUCYC)

59 Looflighter == $15 heat gun from China Freight.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 22, 2018 04:22 PM (bjCNA)

60 A guy at work makes his own pepperoni and other Italian cured meats. His parents were Italian immigrants, it's a family tradition.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:22 PM (Izzlo)

61 56 My grandfather ate the heck out of summer sausage and he would eat it with slices of apple.

Posted by: morigu at July 22, 2018 04:23 PM (N/con)

62 Let those idiots from PETA get Their way and all we would eat would be veggies and those Veggie Burgers those Morning Star Veggie stuff i want meat like PETA go and kiss a grizzly bear

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 22, 2018 04:23 PM (FLiOE)

63 Salamis gave Xerxes heartburn.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 22, 2018 04:23 PM (2K6fY)

64 That parmesan-garlic cabbage is a great (and super-easy) recipe. I make something almost identical to it.
I use green onions --- but I'll try red ones next time.

Sometimes, if I've made bacon earlier in the day, I make the cabbage with bacon grease instead of olive oil and crumble some (reserved) bacon slices on it. Yummy.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 04:23 PM (0jtPF)

65 Lime juice, soak slices of jalapeno. Drain, use as basis for margarita.

Ahhhhh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 22, 2018 04:23 PM (6qErC)

66 Worse on the planet is blue cheese mold

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 04:24 PM (pHfeF)

67 64: That sounds yummy.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 22, 2018 04:24 PM (r4KP2)

68 Like one I heard about, a fertilized duck egg allowed to reach near full gestation, then they do something to the bird inside that kills it and it gels, or something. heard about it on the radio, and I can't remember what it was called, but I dern near vomited up my groceries just hering about it.:''

that's gotta be the chinese. The chinese do some damned weird shit. Had a relative visit Shanghei once, group went to some fancy restaurant, they talked her into ordering some "delicacy". The brought it out, it was one giant fish eye on a plate, about 12 inches across. just the eye, staring at her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (V2Yro)

69 If you hide the salami and she revokes consent the next day, is it still rape?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

Ummmmmm....Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (EoRCO)

70 A guy at work makes his own pepperoni and other Italian cured meats. His parents were Italian immigrants, it's a family tradition.
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:22 PM (Izzlo)

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I hope for your sake he brings some in to share with the class. That has got to be some top shelf stuff.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (b3Pum)

71 Castelvetrano are my favorite olives too. I get mine on Amazon from Partanna in 5.5 lb. cans. Nice and firm, not mushy or too salty and keep in their juices topped off with olive oil a long time.

http://tinyurl.com/yauqjctl

Posted by: dartist at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (K22Va)

72 I make my own salami and whole muscle charcuterie using these bags that, once stuffed, just sit on a wire shelf in your fridge until they lose 30-40% of their starting weight.
Posted by: dartist at July 22, 2018 04:21 PM (K22Va)


Do you have to stuff it in any particular way, and do you have to monitor the temperature and humidity in the refrigerator? I tried curing a salami once, but I didn't pack it well enough and got some aerobic-type putrefaction in the center so I threw the whole thing out. The grease stain on the floor in the basement at my old house will forever smell like garlic and pepper though, so that's nice.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (y87Qq)

73 >>that's gotta be the chinese. The chinese do some damned weird shit.



bird's nest soup
*mic drop*

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2018 04:26 PM (W+vEI)

74 Krakus ham is fantastic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 22, 2018 04:27 PM (89T5c)

75 Had a bunch of the in-laws (those that married in are called outlaws) over for snacks yesterday. Had Italian made hard salami and Greek olives with Vermont cheddar on a very plain thin cracker with a dollop of fig jam. Went multi-national. Yummy! Next time I will try a different brand jam, this one was a bit sweet.
Best prosciutto I have ever had was in Portugal. We were in Lisbon at a business gathering. It was local made. Wow!
My ancestry is Polish, so cabbage is a staple. MH's recipe sounds great.



Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 22, 2018 04:27 PM (N3JsI)

76 Department of Justice (DOJ) and FBI officials were pushing a "self-licking ice-cream cone" when they applied to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court for approval to spy on a former campaign aide to President Donald Trump, according to Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 22, 2018 04:27 PM (e8kgV)

77 Maple syrup on olives!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 22, 2018 04:27 PM (MVjcR)

78 Mr. Aspirin. I agree and on a positive note Weight Watchers has it as a zero point food.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (N3JsI)

79 The duck egg thing is "balut" (Filipino). Maybe there are other varieties though.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (y87Qq)

80 I tried curing a salami once, but I didn't pack it
well enough and got some aerobic-type putrefaction in the center so I
threw the whole thing out.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (y87Qq)

Michael Ruhlman is a good source.....

http://tinyurl.com/y9wjvdfs

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (wYseH)

81 Weasel, please!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (gUCYC)

82 Weasel- How is your foot?

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (pHfeF)

83 Michael Ruhlman is a good source.....

http://tinyurl.com/y9wjvdfs
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (wYseH)


Oh, you're right, I forgot about the Codex Ruhlmanomicon. Thanks!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:29 PM (y87Qq)

84 The duck egg thing is "balut" (Filipino). Maybe there are other varieties though.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:28 PM (y87Qq)

That's the one. Thanks.

Never order balut.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 04:29 PM (EhZNT)

85 70 A guy at work makes his own pepperoni and other Italian cured meats. His parents were Italian immigrants, it's a family tradition.
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:22 PM (Izzlo)

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I hope for your sake he brings some in to share with the class. That has got to be some top shelf stuff.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 04:25 PM (b3Pum)

Oh yeah. He brings some to every pot luck lunch we have.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:29 PM (Izzlo)

86
Not a fan of processed meats. Nope. Not at all.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 04:30 PM (LOgQ4)

87 Ribs on the smoker. Smells wonderful.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 22, 2018 04:30 PM (89T5c)

Leftist Professor Advocates Incredibly Irresponsible Firearms Use, Because A: She Is Stupid and 2: It's Political, Not Rational

Law Prof Suggests College Women can Kill Their Alleged Rapists

And here is Andrew Branca, Moron and an actual legal expert on the topic, ripping her a new one.

It is, of course, true that deadly defensive force is permitted to prevent an imminent forcible rape. What makes the statement controversial is that the purported law professor has omitted the key words "imminent" and "forcible."
This foolish woman displays the typical leftist ignorance of guns, gun culture in America, and most of all, the legal and moral responsibilities of a gun owner.

Posted by: CBD at 02:22 PM




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1 1st!

Posted by: Eastern Front Wehrmacht at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (hFeal)

2 First, doubt anyone will be along

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (pHfeF)

3 Well would have been if wasn't being so snarky

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:24 PM (pHfeF)

4 Oops.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 22, 2018 02:24 PM (hFeal)

5 But still probably have the thread to myself

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:24 PM (pHfeF)

6 I'm going to go rotate my tires or something until others show up

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:26 PM (pHfeF)

7
Feminist logic:

1) Women should be able to kill their rapists.

2) All men are rapists.

Therefore:

3) Women should be able to kill any man.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM (vKPAL)

8 Not my job but corgis called

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM (pHfeF)

9 So ..... early sorta-gunzz thread?


Excellent.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 02:29 PM (QDnY+)

10 Or betters proving they are better and smarter.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at July 22, 2018 02:29 PM (SpS9W)

11 Is this the gun thread? Because, if this is the gun thread, I have to say, I'm a little disappointed.


Gun thread.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 22, 2018 02:29 PM (C1NyB)

12 Skip, it's every Moron's solemn duty to do the corgi call.


You may collect your medal and prize money at the cashier's cage.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 02:30 PM (QDnY+)

13
I'm confused. I thought it was a good thing to kill rapists.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 02:30 PM (SFYwZ)

14 Eastern Front Wehrmacht

Dude. Aren't you being pounded by the Red Army?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:30 PM (hyuyC)

15 This college professor is obviously a hater and homophobic.

What about all the men being raped on campus by other men?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 02:30 PM (EoRCO)

16 I don't have much money. but I am sending a donation to the Jewish business reported on in the last thread, because that's how bad I think these feces throwing villians are. .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 02:31 PM (AllCR)

17 3) Women should be able to kill any man.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM (vKPAL)

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I don't think it's a stretch to say the professor likely leans that way.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 02:31 PM (WEBkv)

18
I mean, what are guns for but to kill people who need killing?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 02:31 PM (SFYwZ)

19 These people are so stupid. Good thing we have civilization. Face-Colander World has no Leftists anywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:32 PM (hyuyC)

20 This sock is entirely appropriate for this thread and I'm loathe to remove it.

Posted by: Lezbo Literary Fanfic at July 22, 2018 02:32 PM (Zogyx)

21
I don't trust these feminists to rewrite the definition of rape.

Satisfying sexual encounter = not rape.
Less then satisfying sexual encounter = rape.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 02:32 PM (LOgQ4)

22 OT: another thing about the redactions - of DATES - in the FISA documents ...... what's that about?


In one case, someone speculates it's because the period of the warrant would extend into Trump's actual presidency (must have been the last warrant renewal).


Another interesting date thing - somebody (jeff@themarketswork, I think) noticed that one of the FISA renewal applications was "early" - that is came before it had to, since the previous one ran for 90 days. He speculates, based on some very interesting, maybe even compelling coincidental facts, that this "hurry up" was because the bad guyz became aware that Horowitz was on to the trove of incriminating text messages (Strzok/Page). The timing does work.


Anyway.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 02:33 PM (QDnY+)

23 Shouldnt they take out their knees first and then shoulders, make them grovel and cry for sweet sweet death...THEN tap tap... like in the movies.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 22, 2018 02:33 PM (Zmczq)

24 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (tjNqg)

25
What about all the men being raped on campus by other men?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy


Can't be considered rape. The "victim" is in denial of his true sexual orientation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (vKPAL)

26 13 Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

It is a good thing to kill actual rapists. That professor's definition of a rapist might be quite different. Like no foreplay or afterglow --rapist.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (hyuyC)

27 I do try to make sure nood is called, hate to be willowed, Just pointing out to me it's the duty of first.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (pHfeF)

28 Murphy has made a career over hyping campus rape. She was one of the go to talking heads during the fake Duke lacrosse case, on the tube constantly claiming that the boys were guilty. She sees rapists everywhere.

I would definitely not want her to be armed.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (/tuJf)

29 I want to hear a really good explanation as to why the supreme court said that executing rapists is too cruel and unusual to allow. Make this make sense to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:35 PM (39g3+)

30 Like no foreplay or afterglow --rapist.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (hyuyC)

That guy smiled at me and he was only a six.

RAPE!

*BLAMBLAMBLAM*

Posted by: Lezbo Literary Fanfic at July 22, 2018 02:35 PM (Zogyx)

31
Toxic Femininity.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 02:35 PM (r+sAi)

32 Somebody say Gun Thread?

Posted by: Weasel at July 22, 2018 02:35 PM (MVjcR)

33 This is not looking good.

May have to find another line of work.

Posted by: Penis extension salesman at July 22, 2018 02:36 PM (sjppU)

34 I am going to withhold comment until noted philosopher A. Occasionally-Coherent weighs in.

I mean, should not we defer on such questions to our Youth, since She Guevara is clearly The Future, the veritable Point Chick, so to speak, of the Revolutionary Vanguard?

Did not we Americans, in own National Youth, use guns to defeat the Great Planetary Rapist, "Great" Britain?

Let she who is without sin, fire the first shot, or something.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 02:36 PM (+BKF+)

35 I don't trust these feminists to rewrite the definition of rape.

Satisfying sexual encounter = not rape.
Less then satisfying sexual encounter = rape.


Other defnitions
Sexual encounter I later regret = rape
Sexual encounter that the guy fails to deliver = rape
Sexual encounter that was me cheating and I need to convince my husband I wasn't cheating = rape

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)

36 30 Lezbo Literary Fanfic

Exactly. If I ever have to start dating again, My go to outfit will be an exoskeleton lifter with Kevlar. Lots of Kevlar.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:37 PM (hyuyC)

37 That professor's definition of a rapist might be quite different. Like no foreplay or afterglow --rapist.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM


Don't forget cuddling. Capital offense.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 02:37 PM (LOgQ4)

38 Make this make sense to me.
Because murderers don't get executed. Rarely anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 02:37 PM (r+sAi)

39 7
Feminist logic:

1) Women should be able to kill their rapists.

2) All men are rapists.

Therefore:

3) Women should be able to kill any man.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM (vKPAL)


Shut it down. We have a threadwinner.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 02:37 PM (sdi6R)

40 OT: in case you miss it, the incredibly loathsome, idiotic POS "senator" from CT - oh, guess I need to be more specific - Blumenthal, says with a straight face (online) that the FISA documents show the FBI had good cause to surveill Page. Note, this is truly the level at which half the country operates. Ridiculous lies/distortions like this will suffice for all those people you know who make the country's problems possible.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 02:37 PM (QDnY+)

41
Being shot beats having to "talk about feelings."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:37 PM (vKPAL)

42 Some guy who grabs some ass will wind up dead, whereas a slap across the face is needed.
Here it's rain, cloud, Sun, cloud, Sun, cloud rain kind of a day

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:38 PM (pHfeF)

43 Satisfying sexual encounter = not rape.
Less then satisfying sexual encounter = rape.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 02:32 PM (LOgQ4)

My boss is ugly - Rape

But he has a nine inch prick - not rape

But I didn't cum - rape

I did, however, get a promotion and a raise - To #metoo or not to #metoo...

Posted by: Lezbo Literary Fanfic at July 22, 2018 02:38 PM (Zogyx)

44 35 I don't trust these feminists to rewrite the definition of rape.

Satisfying sexual encounter = not rape.
Less then satisfying sexual encounter = rape.

Other defnitions
Sexual encounter I later regret = rape
Sexual encounter that the guy fails to deliver = rape
Sexual encounter that was me cheating and I need to convince my husband I wasn't cheating = rape
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)


Beta male smiles at me = rape

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 02:38 PM (sdi6R)

45 Still more definitions:
He said something that made me feel threatened = rape
He looked at me in a manner I did not like = rape
He kissed me under the mistletoe = rape
He wore a MAGA hat = rape

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:39 PM (39g3+)

46 Someone commits mass murder and right away Leftists plead it's not their fault.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:39 PM (pHfeF)

47 >>>32 Somebody say Gun Thread?

but, what about me?!

Posted by: your toe at July 22, 2018 02:39 PM (BVthB)

48 Sexual encounter that was me cheating and I need to convince my husband I wasn't cheating = rape
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)

----------------

That one has probably been used more than a few times. And it should make any would be philanderer think twice.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 02:40 PM (WEBkv)

49 Academia is all about trying to out stupid the other academics to prove how smart they are.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at July 22, 2018 02:40 PM (SpS9W)

50 Because murderers don't get executed. Rarely anyway.

Yeah but the Supreme Court has ruled that executing murderers is acceptable.
But not rapists.
But if you get pregnant from a rape, then its okay to kill the helpless, innocent baby...
but not the actual rapist

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:41 PM (39g3+)

51
What's this?

ABC just gave Nathan Fillion another tv series??

Did his lousy "Castle" finally get shitcanned?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 02:41 PM (SFYwZ)

52 I want to write a short letter to the Law School Dean. Laughing at him for still keeping this person on his budget.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:41 PM (hyuyC)

53 35 I don't trust these feminists to rewrite the definition of rape.

Satisfying sexual encounter = not rape.
Less then satisfying sexual encounter = rape.

Other defnitions
Sexual encounter I later regret = rape
Sexual encounter that the guy fails to deliver = rape
Sexual encounter that was me cheating and I need to convince my husband I wasn't cheating = rape
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)

"The male gaze" = rape
Catcalls = rape

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 02:42 PM (Izzlo)

54

But is anyone here against killing rapists?

I'm not.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 02:43 PM (SFYwZ)

55
Funniest definition of virginity I read a couple of decades ago:

Him: But you had sex.
Her: But I didn't like it, so I'm still a virgin.

* facepalm *

It's probably the same woman as above, all growed (sic) up.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 02:43 PM (LOgQ4)

56 Academia is officially of sewer of mentally ill people.

There are people walking around with titles and published papers and fellowship that are 100 percent political. And I mean leftist political.

New York and Boston colleges are the worst. People like Soros and some great-grand-daughter of Henry Ford give bags of cash to open an academic division that merely feeds their ego and personal political goals.

You see these boutique academics on MSNBC and CNN all the time. It's a part-time job. Their full time job usually involves working for the DNC or a political candidate.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 22, 2018 02:43 PM (arhmY)

57 But is anyone here against killing rapists?

I'm pretty sure the only problem anyone here has against killing an actual rapist is that you can only do it once.

But given the false accusations and the way "rape" is defined by the radical left these days... good to be careful about this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:44 PM (39g3+)

58 This is obviously sarcasm on the part of the author. As a member of the bar, this individual must rest their reputation on sound and logical thinking and a relentless examination of pertinent law.

Or they just could be double dumbass.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 02:44 PM (e1mEI)

59 josephistan

The good news is the climate these Leftist professors engender leads to sterility. As long as a fertile cat-human hybrid is sterile, future genomes are safe.

Due diligence prior to penetration, however slight, is a good thing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:45 PM (hyuyC)

60 Law Prof Suggests College Women can Kill Their Alleged Rapists

C'mon, girls, we're trying to get past that "women are too emotional and struggle with logic" thing.

This is not helping.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:45 PM (rpzii)

61 So, what you're saying is that if you are not in favor of killing all rapists, then you are in favor of raping women.

Posted by: MFM at July 22, 2018 02:45 PM (arhmY)

62 54 But is anyone here against killing rapists?



I'm not.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 02:43 PM (SFYwZ)

Sure for rape rape though. Not 'carry a mattress on your back' rape.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 22, 2018 02:46 PM (Zmczq)

63 He was coming right at us.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (j5LcW)

64 College women should kill their alleged rapists.
All college men are alleged rapists.
Therefore, college women should kill all college men.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (NWiLs)

65 Can you take out a big, fat insurance policy on your "rapist's" life before shooting him?
Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (0jtPF)

66 Make no mistake - this is of a piece with the 'punch a Nazi' zeitgeist. We see them in real-time talking themselves and others into violence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (fA1SL)

67 So, if it's rape rape, bang

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (is8Cu)

68 It is difficult to take Fox seriously when they allow Marie Harf to get near a microphone

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (PUmDY)

69 I think that this thread and the previous one can both be lumped under the headline: "Western Civilization Found Dead - Ruled Apparent Suicide; Film at Eleven".

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (lApJ5)

70 C'mon, girls, we're trying to get past that "women are too emotional and struggle with logic" thing.
__________________________________________

Yeah.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, Rosie O'Donnell and Kathy Griffin at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (arhmY)

71 MFM

Then who would star in our movies? Who would vote for Obamacare? Have you no standards suitable for this issue? Remember: The Non-Leftists are rapists.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:48 PM (hyuyC)

72 What if they were asking for it?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 02:48 PM (j5LcW)

73 63 He was coming right at us.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 02:47 PM (j5LcW)


ISWYDT.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 02:49 PM (sdi6R)

74 "adjunct professor of sexual violence law" at New England Law-Boston.

Ah. All becomes clear.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:49 PM (rpzii)

75 I think rapists and child molesters should be put to death. But it needs to be very certain, not just some crazy person accusing a man because of (insert insane reason).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)

76 If a guy leans on chicks car he should be killed. Cause, come on.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 22, 2018 02:50 PM (Zmczq)

77 What if they were asking for it?

You mean like those filthy trailer park whores who forced Bill Clinton to rape them?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:50 PM (39g3+)

78 Yeah I was snarking CT.
but I am not against it with a few conditions. The years and years of appeals can usually satisfy me.
OTOH, the way certain "law enforcement" works, I am moving towards the none for anybody.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 02:50 PM (r+sAi)

79 Is the saying this "Kill" rule only applies to on-campus rapes?

Rapes that occur in Harvey Weinstein's Beverly Hills mansion and the Arkansas Governor's mansion are excluded?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 22, 2018 02:50 PM (arhmY)

80 "adjunct professor of sexual violence law" at New England Law-Boston:

"You call THAT crazy?? That's the best you got? I'll show you crazy!!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:51 PM (rpzii)

81 You cannot sleep with someone, regret it afterwards, and then shoot him. Because THAT is where this is going. Like a post birth abortion, only the guy came in her vagina, not out of it.

That is a really nasty way of putting it, but I am so sick of this stupid and deadly feminism that justifies bullying, sexism, and now murder.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 22, 2018 02:51 PM (/+bwe)

82 Rapes that occur in Harvey Weinstein's Beverly Hills mansion and the Arkansas Governor's mansion are excluded?

Also: rape rooms in TV studios with doors that lock from the desk button
Songbirds in their manager's room
Congressional locker rooms

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

83
Maybe if this feminist was saying the victims could actually pull the trigger after conviction, I might go with that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 02:52 PM (r+sAi)

84 Wendy knows so little about guns that she'd probably stick her finger in the muzzle of one.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 22, 2018 02:52 PM (Sda6L)

85 anyone tried to rape me or one of my kids I am absolutely gonna try to end him right then and there

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (hMwEB)

86 23 Shouldnt they take out their knees first and then shoulders, make them grovel and cry for sweet sweet death...THEN tap tap... like in the movies.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 22, 2018 02:33 PM (Zmczq)

Not to the death, but to the Pain

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (brIR5)

87 Jesus, young Wendy is a former prosecutor.

Now I'm really alarmed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (rpzii)

88 Guy accidentally brushes against your ass at a crowded house party? Rape.
Guy you don't think is cute looks at you for more than three seconds? Rape.
Drunkenly hook up with a guy and regret it in the morning because he isn't as cute as you thought he was? Rape.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (NWiLs)

89 75 I think rapists and child molesters should be put to death. But it needs to be very certain, not just some crazy person accusing a man because of (insert insane reason).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)

I would disagree, especially in the case of child molesters. If a child molester rapes a kid, and knows that he'll be put to death if caught, what do you think he'll likely do? Kill the kid. Life imprisonment - life-life, not out in 25 years "life" imprisonment.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (Izzlo)

90 Harf lost all creditable as a Barak hack

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (pHfeF)

91 So if that professor gets her way, what happens to self-defense use of a fire arm by the guy?

Here come "Crazy Eyes"? With a gun!
What to do? What to do?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (hyuyC)

92 What does adjunct professor mean?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:55 PM (PUmDY)

93 .44 magnum S&W mattress.

Posted by: Emma Sulkowicz at July 22, 2018 02:56 PM (/qEW2)

94 67 So, if it's rape rape, bang
~~~
Or, if it's rape rape, bang bang

Posted by: socalcon at July 22, 2018 02:56 PM (Roy2Z)

95 A professor with tits?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 02:56 PM (j5LcW)

96 92 What does adjunct professor mean?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:55 PM (PUmDY)

Means you're way down the totem pole. It's barely a step up from guest lecturer.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 02:56 PM (NWiLs)

97 Wendy Murphy, who also directs the Women's and Children's Advocacy Project at the law school, tweeted about a teenager who was sentenced to five years in prison in Sudan for killing her husband as he tried to have sex with her against her will.

In Sudan? Really? Wendy, in case it has escaped your attention, please note that we are not in Sudan.

But thanks for making a powerful argument for banning immigration from Sudan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:56 PM (rpzii)

98 What if the rapist has victim status?

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (RuIsu)

99 Let's harvest organs, body fluid and biochemicals before shooting someone. Does not the left believe in recycling?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (hyuyC)

100 If a child molester rapes a kid, and knows that he'll be put to death if caught, what do you think he'll likely do? Kill the kid.

Sadly that happens quite often anyway. And the ones who do not are usually in a relationship with the child (father, sister, etc), so they aren't generally going to kill them anyway, that would remove their toy. I mean, you could make the same argument for rape: they'll just kill their victims now! Its not an argument I find very compelling or weighty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (39g3+)

101
Rapey Rapey Bang Bang

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (vKPAL)

102 92 What does adjunct professor mean?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:55 PM (PUmDY)


It means you're an academic wannabe.

The academic equivalent of the equipment manager of a football team.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (rpzii)

103 98 What if the rapist has victim status?
Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (RuIsu)

Find a straight white male to shoot in their stead.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (NWiLs)

104 Drunkenly hook up with a guy and regret it in the morning because he isn't as cute as you thought he was? Rape.
=====

The Dunn Bradstreet report came in. If good enough, will take the cash, if a regular family or student: Rape.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (MIKMs)

105
What does adjunct professor mean?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


It means anything they say need not be taken seriously.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:58 PM (vKPAL)

106 92 What does adjunct professor mean?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:55 PM (PUmDY)

You teach classes, but get paid squat. A professor, but not a tenured "professor-professor."

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 02:58 PM (Izzlo)

107 Adjunct professor is part time. So they teach less than 20 hours a week?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 02:58 PM (j5LcW)

108 Wendy Murphy, who also directs the Women's and Children's Advocacy Project at the law school, tweeted about a teenager who was sentenced to five years in prison in Sudan for killing her husband as he tried to have sex with her against her will.

OK, I'll play leftist: she's saying blacks are rapists?

Stone her! Rayciss. Because we all know all cultures are equally good and valid, except ours, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:59 PM (rpzii)

109 (103) Sounds good. I was just thinking ahead.

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 02:59 PM (RuIsu)

110 anyone tried to rape me or one of my kids I am absolutely gonna try to end him right then and there

Would never vote to convict. My favorite news story is the guy who tracked down the man who raped his little girl, went to his house, and beat him to death with his bare hands.

Jury refused to convict.

That's not going to bring your little angel back but its gotta be satisfying and it damn well makes sure nobody else's little angel gets touched by that piece of trash.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 02:59 PM (39g3+)

111 I think one argument against death penalty for pedos, is that in cases of incest, it is a terrible burden on the victim to ask them to testify, knowing they are sending their abuser parent to death.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (hMwEB)

112 Are they required to have degrees?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (PUmDY)

113 Actually, there is a push and I believe it is already law or on its way to becoming law, that a woman can withdraw consent after the conaentual sexual act. Also, there is a push for laws that it's rape if a man lies or misrepresents himself to a woman and sex occurs and she finds out anything was misrepresented then she can accuse the man of rape.

It's a truly terrifying system being created that is based on female totalitarianism (as Jordan Peterson put it over a year ago).

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (zKN+K)

114 There were a couple of use of force cases in the news this past week. One was a guy that walked out of a store carrying 3 18-packs of beer without paying and getting into his truck. The owner's son came up to the driver's window and shot the guy as he was trying to pull off.

The son has been charged with attempted murder. The shot guy was a felon with a lengthy arrest record, but still, I'd say from the limited info available that the charge of attempted murder is more than justified.

The second case was a FL man yelling at a woman for presumably taking his parking place; her husband came out of the store and 'violently' shoved the guy to the ground. Yelling man pulled his legal CW and shot the husband once in the chest, killing him. Shooter didn't run or resist, and fully cooperated.

He's claimed Stand Your Ground defense and the sheriff refused to arrest him, saying he's turned over his info to the DA to decide. There is some surveillance video as well.

This also sounds correct, though very sad. I'm sure the DA is in quite a quandary though. This isn't as clear cut as the Zimmerman case, with his head being repeatedly bashed into the concrete.

And the DA charged him.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (0ogQG)

115 Naked stranger with a knife and a hard-on = rape


Waking up with a hangover next to the frat boy you got drunk with at the after game party = not rape

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (bML9A)

116 112 Are they required to have degrees?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (PUmDY)

98.6 of them.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

117 98 What if the rapist has victim status?
Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 02:57 PM (RuIsu)


We have no idea what you're talking about.

In fact, that sounds suspiciously like hate speech.

Posted by: European governments at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (sdi6R)

118
Her: Listen Fred.
Him: It's Frank.
Her: Whatever. Here's the rules. Seven minutes of oral. On me. Here's a vibrator.
Him: (tentatively) Okay.
Her: By then you should be ready and I won't have to reciprocate. (Pulls gun from nightstand)
Him: Wait a minute. Are those bullet holes in the headboard?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 03:00 PM (LOgQ4)

119 has anyone asked the learned professor how all these college women are going to arm themselves when campus is a designated #GunFreeZone?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 03:01 PM (tjNqg)

120 92 What does adjunct professor mean?
~~
part-time and marching for $15 an hour minimum wage?

Posted by: socalcon at July 22, 2018 03:01 PM (Roy2Z)

121 OT-Yes, Hillary looked terrible in her most recent appearance. She wasn't paying the stylists for makeup, wardrobe and hair styling for this appearance , I guess.

https://tinyurl.com/y96tuy62

I hope that I look better and am not sick when I am her age.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:02 PM (AllCR)

122 Sweden on Wikipedia has no numbers on ethnicity.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 03:02 PM (j5LcW)

123 87 Jesus, young Wendy is a former prosecutor.

Now I'm really alarmed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM (rpzii)

Social Justice Warriors are making their way into the court system as prosecutors and judges. Makes feminists seem reasonable in comparison.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:02 PM (zKN+K)

124 Actually, there is a push and I believe it is already law or on its way to becoming law, that a woman can withdraw consent after the consensual sexual act.

I want to have a law that allows you to withdraw consent from a stock purchase, if, after you buy it, the stock goes down instead of up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (rpzii)

125
47 >>>32 Somebody say Gun Thread?

but, what about me?!
Posted by: your toe at July 22, 2018 02:39 PM (BVthB)
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Toe Update:
Looks better today and has stopped hurting like shit. Condition upgraded to Stable.

Posted by: Weasel at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (MVjcR)

126 Like the words "fascist" and "racist", the word "rapist" now has no meaning.

The left is destroying language as we know it to suit their delusional fantasies.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (iiixZ)

127 What would Angela Merkel make of this woman's words?

Leftist women pretend to be pro-woman, but when they get in power, they throw women under the Muslim bus. That's what Hillary was planning to do, which is part of why I suspect a large bloc of women rejected her. Leftists would be horrified at a woman who shot and killed a Muslim, Mexican or negro who was imminently and forcibly trying to rape them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (/qEW2)

128 He was coming right at us.

Posted by: Boss Moss


Well, there goes 27.5 percent of the Pron industry.

"When bukakke is outlawed, only outlaws will have . . . . "

Hmmm. Needs work.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (+BKF+)

129 I'm not in favor of the death penalty for rape. (We're talking about genuine, forcible rape here.)
But that view assumes that there is a death penalty for murder, which we barely have.

If a rapist knows that there's no downside whatsoever to killing his victim, why not do so?


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (0jtPF)

130 119 has anyone asked the learned professor how all these college women are going to arm themselves when campus is a designated #GunFreeZone?
Posted by: redc1c4
~~~
Whoa! Lib head explosions in 3...2..1..

Posted by: socalcon at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (Roy2Z)

131 Hillary looked terrible in her most recent appearance. She wasn't paying the stylists for makeup, wardrobe and hair styling for this appearance , I guess.

She looks like an escaped patient from a hospital. Don't turn her around, you'll go blind from what you see.

Seriously, who let her out like that? It was horrific.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)

132 the FL case is up over at LI... at least two posts by Andrew.

female parked in handicapped spot, w/o proper tags/placard.

guy yells at her.

boyfriend (not husband) and father of 3 of her kids, comes out, pushes guy to ground, gets bullet in the chest for his trouble.

more details over there.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (tjNqg)

133 I don't really understand the outrage - she's working to convince the progs that concealed carry is a good thing. Well more power to ya, preach it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (V2Yro)

134 What if the rapist is Muslim? Or black?

Then you've got to celebrate his virility, and thank him for contributing to diversity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (rpzii)

135 Sweden on Wikipedia has no numbers on ethnicity.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2018 03:02 PM (j5LcW)


Yup. I noticed that many months ago. Creepy, isn't it?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (/qEW2)

136 I hope that I look better and am not sick when I am her age.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:02 PM (AllCR)


my oldest sister's health is not good, and she can look pretty rough
But she is always smiling with genuine humor in photos

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (hMwEB)

137 If a rapist knows that there's no downside whatsoever to killing his victim, why not do so?

If a murderer knows that there's no downside whatsoever to killing 2 people instead of one, why not do so? Lets not have the death penalty to ANYTHING because of how bad guys might react!

Hey, how about this as an thought: what if people who were considering this realized they could die for it, might that not have an effect also? And that dead rapist, he's not EVER going to get out on good behavior and do it again.

Punishment is about punishing people, not about their potential reaction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)

138 I think that this thread and the previous one can both be lumped under the headline: "Western Civilization Found Dead - Ruled Apparent Suicide; Film at Eleven".
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen

WW I documentary

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 03:06 PM (is8Cu)

139 boyfriend (not husband) and father of 3 of her kids, comes out, pushes guy to ground, gets bullet in the chest for his trouble.

From what I've read it was a bit more than "pushes him to the ground"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)

140 17 3) Women should be able to kill any man.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM (vKPAL)
--------------
I don't think it's a stretch to say the professor likely leans that way."

If that's true, I'm gonna give Juanita Broderick a 30/30 with a scope right now. And if she needs a pinch-shooter, that can be arranged.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:07 PM (V2Yro)

141 If that's true, I'm gonna give Juanita Broderick a 30/30 with a scope right now. And if she needs a pinch-shooter, that can be arranged.

She can be spotter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:08 PM (39g3+)

142 another fun question for Ms. Professor: minimum age to lawfully purchase a handgun is 21. does this mean she's advocating for long gun carry on campus, or a lower minimum age to purchase pistols?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (tjNqg)

143 What is Marco Rubio problem?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (PUmDY)

144 I don't really understand the outrage - she's working to convince the progs that concealed carry is a good thing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (V2Yro)


But they might try it, and these are the kind of people who end up in the ER because they can't be trusted to operate an avocado.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (y87Qq)

145 Feminist logic:

1) Women should be able to kill their rapists.

2) All men are rapists.

Therefore:

3) Women should be able to kill any man.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM

Feminists also believe women should be able to kill babies in the womb at any time.

Someone should do a psychological study on why feminists are so preoccupied with murder.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (7A4qQ)

146 132 the FL case is up over at LI... at least two posts by Andrew.

red, I was operating from memory there. What did Andrew think about the SYG defense?

*I'm gonna go read it anyhow, but just curious

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (0ogQG)

147 From what I've read it was a bit more than "pushes him to the ground""

Over at legal Insurrection, there's a post with the security cam footage of the incident. It's one of those cases on the lines - the aggressor started backing away as soon as he pulled the gun, but he shot him anyways. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

The argument was over someone parking in a handicapped spot without a tag, of all things. Hell of a thing to kill someone for.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:10 PM (V2Yro)

148

First, they came for the rapists...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2018 03:10 PM (IqV8l)

149 Without true justice in this world, maybe we can hope for justice in the next.

But I would rather go back to a few laws, armed people, and self-govered citizens. And juries that get "He needed killing". The original community standard.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 03:10 PM (hyuyC)

150 So the takeaway from that story is don't complain when someone illegally parks in a handicapped spot. Just ignore it and go about your business.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 03:11 PM (sdi6R)

151 another set of questions for the genius: are you advocating Constitutional Carry for students, or "shall issue" CCW laws? What about states, like #Failifornia, etc, that have neither? will this be a Federal mandate?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 03:11 PM (tjNqg)

152 142
another fun question for Ms. Professor: minimum age to lawfully purchase
a handgun is 21. does this mean she's advocating for long gun carry on
campus, or a lower minimum age to purchase pistols?


Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (tjNqg)

Nice....*SJW head explodes* and you are a Nazi of course.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 22, 2018 03:12 PM (Zmczq)

153 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (hMwEB)

If she has humor that's more than Hillary has so good for your sister, and I don't think Hillary smiles very often because she's a bitter, angry person with an air of entitlement. I've never worn a mummu although I suppose it's comfortable, but if she's going out to talk to people She should dress herself up better and fix her hair. It's not as if she doesn't have the money to do that. Commentators says she has a colostomy bad-so that's why she's wearing loose fitting clothing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:12 PM (AllCR)

154 133 I don't really understand the outrage - she's working to convince the progs that concealed carry is a good thing. Well more power to ya, preach it!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:05 PM (V2Yro)
~~~
Let me introduce you , Tom, to some menopausal women. Then you'll get the picture.

Posted by: socalcon at July 22, 2018 03:12 PM (Roy2Z)

155 But it needs to be very certain, not just some crazy person accusing a man because of (insert insane reason -> Female).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 03:14 PM (+BKF+)

156 147
Perhaps the intent was provide a condition where the shooting victim complied as handicapped?

Posted by: socalcon at July 22, 2018 03:15 PM (Roy2Z)

157 I'd like to go back to the feces flinging - with all the training I have had to endure on blood borne pathogens, how is someone flinging human waste, with god knows what bacteria and viruses included not assault with intent to kill?

Posted by: rammajamma at July 22, 2018 03:15 PM (xceTB)

158 From what I've read it was a bit more than "pushes him to the ground"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)


i was writing the Cliff Notes version, not the Ace one.
-----
red, I was operating from memory there. What did Andrew think about the SYG defense?



*I'm gonna go read it anyhow, but just curious

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (0ogQG)


IIRC, the shooter was on the ground, at an obvious disadvantage, so SYG doesn't apply, since he didn't have the option of trying to get away.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 03:17 PM (tjNqg)

159 Let me introduce you , Tom, to some menopausal women. Then you'll get the picture."

Menopausal women only WISH they were getting raped. Or getting any attention at all. There's the source of the anger right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:17 PM (V2Yro)

160 Social Justice Warriors are making their way into the court system as prosecutors and judges. Makes feminists seem reasonable in comparison.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:02 PM (zKN+K)


They'll be more likely to commit murder if they know they'll probably get a judge biased in their favor. Just as illegals feel no compulsion not to commit crimes. Same with Muslims in Europe. The attitude of "You can't arrest me! Mrs. Merkel invited me".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:17 PM (/qEW2)

161 This loopy feminist is loopy, of course. But I don't see why anyone is giving her the time of day. There is 0 chance that her proposal will get any traction. Paying attention to her just gives her a megaphone that she'd otherwise lack.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 22, 2018 03:18 PM (H5knJ)

162 how is someone flinging human waste, with god knows what bacteria and viruses included not assault with intent to kill?"

Bull Connor was right - fire hoses are the only appropriate response.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:19 PM (V2Yro)

163 Menopausal women only WISH they were getting raped. Or getting any attention at all. There's the source of the anger right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:17 PM (V2Yro)

Hey! I'm standing right here!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:19 PM (hMwEB)

164 So the takeaway from that story is don't complain when someone illegally parks in a handicapped spot. Just ignore it and go about your business.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 03:11 PM


When I pull into a 'big box' home improvement store and the first 100 parking spots are set aside for a group of people who are allegedly too handicapped to buy anything, much less fix anything from that store... yeah, I sure don't GAF who parks in those spots. Not my job to be the parking lot police force.

It's all about turning citizen against citizen. Some people eagerly embrace that task. Sure, it's a shame if they get shot. But nobody said they had to be a busybody.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 03:19 PM (LOgQ4)

165 I am beginning to encounter a few "women of a certain age" who have given up on sex entirely, favoring their causes and/or cats instead. It's a little sad to experience.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2018 03:22 PM (QLvwG)

166 If a murderer knows that there's no downside whatsoever to killing 2 people instead of one, why not do so? Lets not have the death penalty to ANYTHING because of how bad guys might react!

Hey, how about this as an thought: what if people who were considering this realized they could die for it, might that not have an effect also? And that dead rapist, he's not EVER going to get out on good behavior and do it again.

Punishment is about punishing people, not about their potential reaction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)


Bonus question: how many people try to smuggle drugs into Singapore?

Answer: damned few.

Why? Because if they catch you, you will hang. Pretty much guaranteed. Pleading letters/phone calls from Presidents, Prime Ministers, the Pope, the Commissioner of Baseball, etc. notwithstanding.

Swiftness and sureness is the key. Farting around the way we implement capital punishment does not work because it's slow, and too arbitrary. Criminals tend to be pretty stupid, and hence not good at connecting cause and effect when those are widely displaced in time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:23 PM (rpzii)

167 165 I am beginning to encounter a few "women of a certain age" who have given up on sex entirely, favoring their causes and/or cats instead. It's a little sad to experience.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2018 03:22 PM (QLvwG)

Men of a certain age too, but without the cats or causes. Unfortunately that age is becoming younger and younger, if the studies are right.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 03:23 PM (NWiLs)

168 Hey! I'm standing right here!"

oh but you I like!

heh, I knew somebody would notice that. What did Trump say? Errr, I misspoke, that's it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:23 PM (V2Yro)

169 164
I sure don't GAF who parks in those spots. Not my job to be the parking lot police force.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 03:19 PM (LOgQ4)


"Citizen's Arrest! Citizen's Arrest!"
- Gomer Pyle

But yeah, point taken.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 03:24 PM (sdi6R)

170 Menopausal women only WISH they were getting raped. Or getting any attention at all

They do? I didn't wish to get raped and I had plenty of attention.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:24 PM (AllCR)

171 Not to the death, but to the Pain

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at July 22, 2018 02:54 PM

Hey, that's my line.

Posted by: Dread Pirate Westley at July 22, 2018 03:24 PM (7A4qQ)

172 162 how is someone flinging human waste, with god knows what bacteria and viruses included not assault with intent to kill?"

Bull Connor was right - fire hoses are the only appropriate response.

Posted by: Tom Servo


Iirc, in CA knowingly infecting someone with HIV is now just a misdemeanor.

PS getting hit with bodily fluids and shit is a common problem for jail guards.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 03:26 PM (0ogQG)

173 137---
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)
---------------------------------
Good points but ....

1) I think murder is the ultimate crime and alone deserves the ultimate penalty.

2) Leaving aside the insanely broad definition the feminazis have given to the word "rape," there are IMO legitimate differences in degree of evil in what most of us would classify as rape. I don't think we can even talk about them, much less legislate them.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 03:27 PM (0jtPF)

174 Men of a certain age too, but without the cats or causes. Unfortunately that age is becoming younger and younger, if the studies are right."

Well the easiest way for that to happen is to get married, of course! Amirght???? I tell ya, last month my wife cut me back to one time a month, one time a month, it's terrible. But I'm lucky, you know, Lucky! 2 guys she cut off completely!!!!

Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at July 22, 2018 03:27 PM (V2Yro)

175 Men of a certain age too, but without the cats or
causes. Unfortunately that age is becoming younger and younger, if the
studies are right.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 03:23 PM (NWiLs)

That is sad as well.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (QLvwG)

176 When I pull into a 'big box' home improvement store and the first 100 parking spots are set aside for a group of people who are allegedly too handicapped to buy anything, much less fix anything from that store

I draw a distinction between people who are legitimately handicapped, as opposed to just grossly obese. To hell with the latter; their parking spaces should be at the far end of the parking lot.

Several years I broke my ankle, and after surgery parked in a normal parking spot halfway across the parking lot, and hobbled in on crutches. No problem. I could have parked closer, but just took the first space I came across. No biggie.

As I hobbled in, I passed a land whale parking her fat ass in a handicapped parking spot and then waddling in.

I shot her a look that I hope had some effect. My contempt knew no bounds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (rpzii)

177 OT-Latest anti Trump hashtag reminds us again of why Trump won. People-including menopausal, pre menopausal women and yes, even some men and their emotional meltdowns after Hillary lost:

https://tinyurl.com/ydhgcafx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (AllCR)

178 Hillary looks spectacularly horrible in that photo. And nobody cares enough about her to convince her to move somewhere quiet.
Her unrelenting obsession and misery are clear signs of mental illness.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (eAMlh)

179 Over at Shark Week I learned that male Great Whites bite into the womyns really hard so that they can force themselves into position. Mature females are covered with love scars. Their skin is twice as deep as males, presumably an evolved survival response

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (XLx88)

180 PS getting hit with bodily fluids and shit is a common problem for jail guards.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 03:26 PM (0ogQG)


But in CA, at least, it is specifically called out in the law. See section b.

https://tinyurl.com/ydy3msgw

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (y87Qq)

181 Well the easiest way for that to happen is to get married, of course!

==

the great thing about being married is you can always blame your spouse's age, rather than your own

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:29 PM (hMwEB)

182 179 Over at Shark Week I learned that male Great Whites bite into the womyns really hard so that they can force themselves into position. Mature females are covered with love scars. Their skin is twice as deep as males, presumably an evolved survival response
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (XLx8

What about the earlier forms without the thicker skin? How'd the species survive unless getting all bitey started occurring only on pace with the thicker skin?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 03:29 PM (NWiLs)

183 2) Leaving aside the insanely broad definition the feminazis have given to the word "rape," there are IMO legitimate differences in degree of evil in what most of us would classify as rape. I don't think we can even talk about them, much less legislate them.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 03:27 PM (0jtPF)


Equitable administration of justice requires judgment.

Sadly, however, we have an apparently growing contingent of people whose judgment is, shall we say, questionable?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:30 PM (rpzii)

184 The flip side of this woman's principle is that if conservatives hold a free speech rally on campus and are attack by bike lock wielding antifa, they should always use lethal force. What's good for the rape hoaxer is good for the actual victim of violence.

It seems the left really does want to turn this into a shooting war.

If this woman is like like that idiot professor at Mizzou calling for "more muscle" in an antifa mob, she may be one of the ones getting a karma of the year award.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:30 PM (/qEW2)

185 That Shark Week fact is fascinating. And sexy.

Posted by: Marv Albert at July 22, 2018 03:30 PM (H5knJ)

186 This sounds like something my leftists SIL would say. She is also a college prof. I haven't spoken to her in over 10 years.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 22, 2018 03:30 PM (r9UYA)

187 a love bite should not leave a scar

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:31 PM (hMwEB)

188 Even if her premise were correct, don't most campuses ban women from possessing the firearms used to legally murder rapists?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 22, 2018 03:31 PM (yjKLL)

189 Murphy is insane. She made such an ass out of herself during the Duke Lacrosse case she had to disappear for awhile. When she popped back up, she had completely changed hair colors.

Posted by: Ktgreat at July 22, 2018 03:32 PM (f8ilN)

190 I am beginning to encounter a few "women of a certain age" who have given up on sex entirely, favoring their causes and/or cats instead. It's a little sad to experience.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2018 03:22 PM

I have encountered men of a certain age, some not yet retired, who have given up on bathing, haircuts, and wearing clean clothes. Worst of all, some no longer take care of their vehicles or boats.

Seriously I think there is a direct opposite to puberty and it has its own changes. The blessed ones are those who find a good cause.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 22, 2018 03:33 PM (/+bwe)

191 OT-Latest anti Trump hashtag reminds us again of why Trump won. People-including menopausal, pre menopausal women and yes, even some men and their emotional meltdowns after Hillary lost:

https://tinyurl.com/ydhgcafx
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:28 PM (AllCR)


It just wouldn't be complete without the BS Woke Child tweet, would it.

My boy broke down crying the next morning. "Are they gonna make people slaves again momma?"

https://stoatnet.org/pdtyourtears.jpg

All is well with the world.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:34 PM (y87Qq)

192 187 a love bite should not leave a scar.

Not unless it's a really, really good one.

Posted by: Lestat de Lioncourt at July 22, 2018 03:34 PM (V2Yro)

193 Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:34 PM (y87Qq)

People who are telling little kids this kind of bs. are not good parents, at least in that respect. Why are they allowing their kids to become so scared?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:36 PM (AllCR)

194 189 Murphy is insane. She made such an ass out of herself during the Duke Lacrosse case she had to disappear for awhile. When she popped back up, she had completely changed hair colors.
Posted by: Ktgreat at July 22, 2018 03:32 PM (f8ilN)


From blue to green, or vice versa?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:36 PM (rpzii)

195 All this talk of parking spaces reminds me of the Johnny Carson joke about the rage shootings on the Ventura freeway.

"Honey, I'm shifting into the left lane. Cover me."

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:36 PM (/qEW2)

196 187 a love bite should not leave a scar
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 03:31 PM (hMwEB)


For humans, yes. Have you seen sharks' teeth? I don't think they could help it even if they wanted to.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 03:38 PM (sdi6R)

197 Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:34 PM (y87Qq)

That's a funny photoshop. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:38 PM (AllCR)

198 The solution to campus rape is simple.

Woman should be banned from campus.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 03:39 PM (EoRCO)

199 Why are they allowing their kids to become so scared?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:36 PM (AllCR)


Who knows if they even are. Usually - and especially if they stress the kid's age - it's just showing off what a responsible and mature and ~wOkE~ kid they raised. It's virtue signaling for the parent. The kid doesn't know or care and probably never even said it.

Which is not to say that they aren't terrible parents, of course.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:40 PM (y87Qq)

200 198 The solution to campus rape is simple.

Woman should be banned from campus.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 03:39 PM (EoRCO)

With all the raping going on college campuses why would any loving parent send a daughter to college?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 03:41 PM (eAMlh)

201 Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:40 PM (y87Qq)

O.K. I was not thinking of the "entire thing was made up" scenario like the poster CheChe-"My daughter and I fell into each other's arms on onto the couch weeping"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:42 PM (AllCR)

202 Maybe colleges should institute a blue walkway and pink walkway system.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 03:42 PM (eAMlh)

203 he solution to campus rape is simple.

Woman should be banned from campus.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Back to all girls schools

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 03:43 PM (is8Cu)

204 145 Feminist logic:

1) Women should be able to kill their rapists.

2) All men are rapists.

Therefore:

3) Women should be able to kill any man.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM

Feminists also believe women should be able to kill babies in the womb at any time.

Someone should do a psychological study on why feminists are so preoccupied with murder.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 22, 2018 03:09 PM (7A4qQ)

To be fair, this line of thinking is a that of a Social Justice Warrior more than a feminist. There are reasonaable light weight feminists out there. But this 3-4th wave feminism that has Social Justce Warriorism mixed in is dangerous stuff. Its this line of thinking that is showing up on a local level as prosecutors and judges and in academia.

It's terrifying.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:43 PM (zKN+K)

205 Murphy is insane. She made such an ass out of herself during the Duke Lacrosse case she had to disappear for awhile. When she popped back up, she had completely changed hair colors.
Posted by: Ktgreat at July 22, 2018 03:32 PM (f8ilN)


I suspect these people were abused at a young age and think they can somehow get justice by "punishing" innocent people.

I kind of feel towards them like Michael Palin in a Fish called Wanda.

Jamie Lee Curtis: "You'll have to forgive Otto. His father beat him when he was a child"

Palin: "G...good"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 03:45 PM (/qEW2)

206 [Him: But you had sex.
Her: But I didn't like it, so I'm still a virgin.

* facepalm *

It's probably the same woman as above, all growed (sic) up.



With the Southern Virgin version, it didn't count if she was drunk.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 03:45 PM (yQpMk)

207 With all the raping going on college campuses why would any loving parent send a daughter to college?
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 03:41 PM (eAMlh)


Or allow liberals to run anything, much less entire institutions? They've owned academia for decades and by their own admission, campuses are seething hellpits of constant rape and rampant racism and bigotry.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:46 PM (y87Qq)

208 OT: I'm listening to some medical talk show that is on Sundays. They typically distort the whole insurance -govt-fees discussion and ignore the facts of economics and suggest there is such thing as a Free Lunch not to mention the wonders of govt controller health care. Today they are talking about Obamcare, how it was implemented, it's supposed benefits and now its repeal. Complete distortion of the facts and ignores that more than anything it was a huge transfer of wealth and power grab by the govt. Nor any discussion if the individual or employee mandates were a massive intrusion on our rights, just how necessary the were to get a good risk pool.

F**ing idiots. How may doctors think like this? I get the impression quite a few. They deserve to become govt. employees and worked to death providing free health care.

Posted by: Ripley at July 22, 2018 03:46 PM (MxEKc)

209 She went from deep brunette to peroxide blonde, Jay.
It was....not good.

Posted by: Ktgreat at July 22, 2018 03:46 PM (f8ilN)

210 Just watched the handicapped space shooting.

Center mass, just as your taught.

The attacker stumbled away, hands over the hole in his chest, shocked that he couldn't shove an old man to the ground an get away with it.

Cold, hard facts of life.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 03:46 PM (EoRCO)

211 Maybe colleges should institute a blue walkway and pink walkway system.

Binariest!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 03:47 PM (yQpMk)

212 Studies are showing that women are having more sex with more partners than ever while men are walking away from sex. It's completely inverse. It's almost as if dating apps and Social media along with extreme gynocentric laws and rules are causing this.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:47 PM (zKN+K)

213 "Its this line of thinking that is showing up on a local level as prosecutors and judges and in academia."

They're going to run into quite a bit of headwind, because the True Believers hate to cut deals, but in fact, the legal system in almost every local courtroom has been Let's Make a Deal (with your life on the line) for about 40 or 50 years now.

The system isn't going to allow any new group to gum up the works, the way things are is just too profitable for everyone involved. Understand, the question isn't whether or not the system is going to be corrupted, that happened long ago. The only question is which flavor of corruption we choose to live with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:49 PM (V2Yro)

214 https://stoatnet.org/pdtyourtears.jpg


I love that iJeb! is on the milk carton.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 03:50 PM (yQpMk)

215 > The argument was over someone parking in a handicapped spot without a tag, of all things.

I got the stinkeye the other day -- I was out for lunch with my niece and my aunt (who is in her 70s and gets around with a walker). My niece was driving. My aunt has a handicapped rear-view-mirror-hanger thingie that she uses when someone takes her somewhere. We parked in a handicapped slot. They'd already gotten in the car to leave. I stopped off to have a smoke. Nasty, nasty look from someone waiting to get in the slot when I came to the car.

Hello? Did you not notice that I was a) a passenger and b) not the only person in the friggin' car?

Idiots.

Posted by: SJW REEEEE! mob at July 22, 2018 03:51 PM (GXOTw)

216 124 Actually, there is a push and I believe it is already law or on its way to becoming law, that a woman can withdraw consent after the consensual sexual act.

I want to have a law that allows you to withdraw consent from a stock purchase, if, after you buy it, the stock goes down instead of up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (rpzii

Podcast? Radio show? I've always wondered why you don't have one. You are a master at analogies.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:52 PM (zKN+K)

217 Studies are showing that women are having more sex with more partners than ever while men are walking away from sex.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:47 PM (zKN+K)


My instructor always said that any one you can walk away from is good. If you can use it again the next day, it's outstanding.

I'm pretty sure that's what he was talking about anyway. Might've been something else.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:52 PM (y87Qq)

218 This was my favorite of the post Trump win accounts:

To every woman who threw up on election night, who sobbed on the bathroom floor, who dry heaved trying to imagine how to tell their kids what had happened, who couldn't stop physically shaking, who felt the horror of what was to come, I say this:

WE KNEW. WE KNEW. WE KNEW.

I am mean person because I laughed. That woman should write legitimate horror stories.

I have never had that extreme a reaction to any election.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 03:52 PM (AllCR)

219 212 Studies are showing that women are having more sex with more partners than ever while men are walking away from sex."

Funny, I seem to remember hearing about systems and places in the past where big, powerful, wealthy men would each have 10, 20, or even more women that they could keep around, when the poor working schmoe's would be sent off to the stables to shovel shit all day or, if they objected, shipped off to the salt mines. Remind me, what did we call that kind of system?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 03:52 PM (V2Yro)

220 I love that ¡Jeb! is on the milk carton.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 03:50 PM (yQpMk)


"Low-energy milk", no less.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 03:53 PM (y87Qq)

221 200
With all the raping going on college campuses why would any loving parent send a daughter to college?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 03:41 PM (eAMlh)
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THIS.

Would you let your daughter live in the nastiest area of the nearest big city? Nope.

And yet the odds over a 4 year period of her being raped in such a neighborhood are waaaay lower than what they claim for college campuses.

(I have a cop friend who actually did the math for this, using a crime-ridden neighborhood of Richmond VA.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 03:56 PM (0jtPF)

222 The Left has Humpty Dumpty Law...


ie, the Law is just what they say it is, nothing more and nothing less....


No matter what it really says.

Posted by: Don Q at July 22, 2018 03:57 PM (NgKpN)

223 I want to have a law that allows you to withdraw consent from a stock purchase, if, after you buy it, the stock goes down instead of up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 03:03 PM (rpzii

Podcast? Radio show? I've always wondered why you don't have one. You are a master at analogies.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 22, 2018 03:52 PM (zKN+K)


would not the be the very definition of an Ex Post Facto Law???

Posted by: Don Q at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (NgKpN)

224 With hysterical lunatics like this on faculty at universities, why send your kid there at all?

These people are not there to provide education, they're there to radicalize and commit activism.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (oVJmc)

225 Afternoon all.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (I16G8)

226 Anyone ask her if this applies to the rape gangs in the UK?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (W+vEI)

227 Oh, blake!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2018 04:00 PM (W+vEI)

228 Blake to the Barrel in a grand style!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 04:01 PM (I16G8)

229 Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (WEBkv)



Thanks for the recap

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 04:01 PM (SiINZ)

230 Wow! Epic embarrelling!

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 04:01 PM (Izzlo)

231 to the Barrel, blake!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 04:01 PM (hMwEB)

232 Burp!.....

Posted by: The Barrel at July 22, 2018 04:02 PM (EoRCO)

233 Huh.

Can't say I've ever seen THAT happen before.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 04:02 PM (+BKF+)

234 Can't say I've ever seen THAT happen before.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 04:02 PM (+BKF+)


...three times in one thread.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:03 PM (y87Qq)

235 NOOD - hide the salami

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 04:04 PM (rbgPC)

236 Still my favorite President Trump tears gif

https://twitter.com/manofmanychins/status/858424924846911489?s=21

Posted by: Marty McFly at July 22, 2018 04:05 PM (VWE5i)

237 "This was my favorite of the post Trump win accounts:

To every woman who threw up on election night, who sobbed on the bathroom floor, who dry heaved trying to imagine how to tell their kids what had happened, who couldn't stop physically shaking, who felt the horror of what was to come, I say this:

WE KNEW. WE KNEW. WE KNEW.

I am mean person because I laughed. That woman should write legitimate horror stories."

I'd suggest that twit talk to the woman who lost her husband and all her kids in the duck boat sinking, or a woman who rode out a tornado or hurricane in her bathtub, or a woman who survived a mass shooting, terrorist attack, or gang rape, if she really wants to know what it feels like to be physically shaking, dry heaving, cringing from "the horror to come," etc.

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 04:05 PM (9WuX0)

238 Well, Blake did say he was the Used Comment Salesman.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 04:05 PM (+BKF+)

239 Still my favorite President Trump tears gif

https://twitter.com/manofmanychins/status/858424924846911489?s=21
Posted by: Marty McFly at July 22, 2018 04:05 PM (VWE5i)


That's a good one, thanks.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 04:06 PM (y87Qq)

240 (21 When O was elected, my reaction was "America is Officially Stupid". A con artist Cook County Machine Democrat? Guess I was right.


O made DJT look at things a little differently, too.

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 04:15 PM (RuIsu)

Martin Niemöller Was Correct, And Anyone Who Doesn't Believe It Is A Fool

Protesters Throw Feces at L.A. Kosher Cafe Because Owner Supports Trump
Why didn't they go after some Korean shop owner who was expanding? Because he would have called 50 of his friends and the protesters would have gotten their asses kicked. Jews are better targets for a few reasons, first of which is that American Jews have no history of fighting back, and in fact have a reputation for being conciliatory in the extreme. And let us not forget the historical hatred of Jews by the Left. Seemingly every leftist revolutionary struggle has demonized Jews, Judaism and Israel.

But when those revolutionary struggles run out of Jews to persecute, or they need to expand the class struggle, they move on to their next targets, the Catholic Church and devout Protestants.

Bernie Sanders makes Israel a regular target of his ire, and his idiot acolyte from NYC, Ocasio-Cortez chose Israel for one of her first public attacks.

That is the past. the present and the future of socialism, and anyone who doesn't understand it is a fool or a crypto-socialist.

Posted by: CBD at 12:05 PM




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1 The left doesn't bother to hide its anti-Semitism anymore. It doesn't need to.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:06 PM (CSNuj)

2 also, Koreans have a history of shooting assholes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 12:06 PM (mpXpK)

3 Yeah, but the owner is from Israel, and Israelis do have a reputation for fighting back. So what's his excuse?

Posted by: Pete in TX at July 22, 2018 12:07 PM (2RBkF)

4 Throwing feces? They really are yard apes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

5 And American Jews still support the Dems by a large majority.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:07 PM (CSNuj)

6

"Second look at the JDL?"

- - zombie Rabbi Meir Kahane

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:09 PM (VM6ev)

7 Bernie Sanders makes Israel a regular target of his ire, and his idiot acolyte from NYC, Ocasio-Cortez chose Israel for one of her first public attacks.



The two commies were in Kansas stumping for some candidate and going to turn the state commie red. I'm sure that sold well in Kansas

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 12:09 PM (SiINZ)

8 Hopefully stories like this will start to make entrepreneurs like this start to realize, what the hell are you doing in Los Angeles? Fuck that ghetto, get yourself to Texas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (V2Yro)

9 5 And American Jews still support the Dems by a large majority.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:07 PM (CSNuj)


Their "religion" is Leftism. They have renounced their Judaism or have done the Iowahawk thing by killing it, gutting it and wearing the carcass as a skin suit, then proclaiming themselves holier than thou and using that as the pretext to attack Israel and real Jews as the apostates.

See also: Noam Chomsky, J-Street.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (VM6ev)

10 CBD brings up the endgame -- demonizing the 'opiate of the masses' which is any religion other than the State.


Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (MIKMs)

11 They need that guy, Paul, that was on "All in the Family" to show up when Archie had a swastika painted on his door and show them what's what.

Paul: "Everyone knows that Homo Sapiens is a killer."

Edith: "Homo Sapiens. Is he an Arab?"

Archie: "No Edith. Homo Sapiens is a killer fag."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (EoRCO)

12 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (lwiT4)

13 I'm half-tempted to swing by the commie synagogue this Friday just to drop a mention of this story at the oneg and see what kind of handwringing "can't happen here" victim-blaming they come up with. Not tempted enough to actually bother though.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:15 PM (y87Qq)

14 Their "religion" is Leftism. They have renounced their Judaism or have done the Iowahawk thing by killing it, gutting it and wearing the carcass as a skin suit, then proclaiming themselves holier than thou and using that as the pretext to attack Israel and real Jews as the apostates.

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Assimilated German Jews thought their good standing as productive citizens of the Reich would protect them. They were mistaken.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:15 PM (CSNuj)

15 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM


Some people take the words 'anal retentive' to heart.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 12:16 PM (LOgQ4)

16 5 And American Jews still support the Dems by a large majority."

We can get into another long explanation between the Reformed Jewish movement and the Orthodox & their allies. the Reform Movement is the largest "jewish" group in America, but not anywhere else. What signifies the "Reform" group is that they admit openly that they do not actually believe that any "God" exists, and their only raison d'etre is to support Social Justice and liberal politics. The Reform group has begun to actively oppose Israel and work for its destruction, while the Orthodox and their allies are quite the opposite.

A good comment on the state of affairs is this old campaign joke - what's the difference between Donald Trump and the typical Reform Jew? A: Donald Trump has Jewish grandchildren.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:16 PM (V2Yro)

17 These groups of supposed "anti-gentrification" or "anti-Trump" are segregationists.

Posted by: batterup at July 22, 2018 12:17 PM (U2JQS)

18 Their "religion" is Leftism. They have renounced their Judaism or have done the Iowahawk thing by killing it, gutting it and wearing the carcass as a skin suit, then proclaiming themselves holier than thou and using that as the pretext to attack Israel and real Jews as the apostates.

See also: Noam Chomsky, J-Street.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (VM6ev)



That's sadly true for far too many people regardless of their faith. Or have turned their religion (church/synagogue) into nothing more than a lefty organization which has zero do to with actual religion.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 12:17 PM (SiINZ)

19 12 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (lwiT4)

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You don't have to. In San Francisco you can pick up a big bag of shit on any street corner.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:17 PM (CSNuj)

20 Somebody in the Comments section called it "Schitzelnacht".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:18 PM (gUCYC)

21 People throwing feces in folks' faces should be subject to lethal force in response.

I am long past the point of being civilized with this scum.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 12:18 PM (+BKF+)

22 Asshole leftists (BIRM) attacking a Korean shop ...

(Mona Lisa-esque smile here)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:18 PM (YqDXo)

23 Their "religion" is Leftism.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (VM6ev)


NGU posted a story yesterday about a commie-yid summer camp that claimed to have - lemme make sure I get this right, because the words don't rationally belong in the - "progressive secular Jewish roots".

Judaism isn't secular and progressivism is about eradicating roots, you f'ng Bolsheviks. Quit putting those words together. They don't want to be together.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:19 PM (y87Qq)

24 I remember the Koreans in the LA riots on roofs shooting.

Maybe a worthy method of defense would be a paintball gun in the nuts. Tell the judge you were protecting you family, business, and customers

Posted by: Redenzo at July 22, 2018 12:20 PM (14qvS)

25 Irans leader on Sunday left open the possibility of peace with the United States but cautioned President Trump against taking an aggressive stand with the Islamic Republic, saying an outbreak of hostilities between the two countries would lead to the mother of all wars, according to a report.

Didn't we already fight the mother of all wars? Is this another mother by another father? Step Mother? Mother Fucker?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 12:21 PM (Ydx5u)

26 To be fair, they really thought they were harmonizing themselves in their natural environment through Flung pui.

Posted by: Rubber Nipple Salesman at July 22, 2018 12:21 PM (H9t6b)

27 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (lwiT4)


Some people save them up and nail them to the door, can you imagine?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:22 PM (y87Qq)

28 The mullahs see the ice cracking below their feet. They're scared.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:22 PM (CSNuj)

29 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (lwiT4)



They're completely full of shit so they have a lot of it on hand

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 12:23 PM (SiINZ)

30 Maybe a worthy method of defense would be a paintball gun in the nuts.
Tell the judge you were protecting you family, business, and customers
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Similar to the exploding dye on currency? Easy way to track thieves and rioters.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 12:24 PM (MIKMs)

31 Tossing shit is a "thing" now, isn't it?

And here I was thinking it was only Punky Monkey who did that...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 12:25 PM (iiixZ)

32 10 CBD brings up the endgame -- demonizing the 'opiate of the masses' which is any religion other than the State.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (MIKMs)


It's more profound than that, even: socialists NEED one or more enemies to blame for when socialism doesn't work.

Even if the country were utterly homogeneous ethnically, and there was not a scintilla of religion extant, eventually socialists have to generate some shadowy enemy that is screwing up what otherwise would be Paradise, i.e., "true" socialism. The bread lines, etc. are not their fault, you see.

Notice Maduro blamed Obama, of all people, a fellow leftist, for Venezuela's woes. It's always some foreign enemy that probably couldn't care less about the socialist country, some domestic "counter-revolutionary reactionaries," something.

It's not that socialism doesn't work. No.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:25 PM (YqDXo)

33 I saw Idiot Acolytes open for War in '67 at the Pit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:26 PM (+y/Ru)

34 Good. They mess with the Jews, they have to answer to the Living God.

(Who usually remains anonymous)

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:26 PM (84I0r)

35 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (lwiT4)


Are we sure the feces weren't just trying to escape from the leftists?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:27 PM (YqDXo)

36
It's not that socialism doesn't work. No.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:25 PM (YqDXo)

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Like, um, you just need the right leadership, you know?

Posted by: Alexandra Occasional-Cortex at July 22, 2018 12:27 PM (CSNuj)

37 Catholic priest friend of mine decided to do his homily this week on The Pill. He contends that even people who take it, not for birth control, but for medical reasons, are not morally justified. The reasoning is that God created us all, and this created each woman's cycle. So, if she has a particularly heavy flow, or irregular cycle, or miserable cramping...well, that's the way God created her, and using pills to regulate it, would be wrong.

I find myself uncomfortable with this homily, and I am wondering how his congregation will take it. It's one thing to do a homily about sex or contraception in general or family planning. But, to do it specifically about the Pill seems quite pointed, and frankly it feels like shaming; I am wondering about my sister, who was put on BC at the age of 12, because she was bleeding so much that it was scary. I wonder how she would have felt sitting in church, and hearing that said to her.

I also find myself wondering when his sermon about condoms and viagra is going to be.

Catholic friends: what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:27 PM (TL2pK)

38 Tossing plastic bags of urine has been a thing in demonstrations for a while, but that has to be loads easier to harvest than fecal matter.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:27 PM (gUCYC)

39 1940s Nazi: Ve haff vays to making you talk.

2018 Nazis: We have ways to make you shut up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)

40 What signifies the "Reform" group is that they admit openly that they do not actually believe that any "God" exists, and their only raison d'etre is to support Social Justice and liberal politics.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:16 PM (V2Yro)

I ask this question in several different ways, but I never get an answer. If you don't believe in God, why do you believe in social justice and liberal politics? Once is just as much a belief as the other, the only difference being that there is a God. There is no history or physical universe that gives a crap whether you protest to support leftist, transgender unicorns. If history or the physical universe was actually sentient and cared about your actions, then that would be either God or a manifestation of God. Silly liberal twats!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 22, 2018 12:28 PM (9BLnV)

41 The need for tyrants to find a victim is inextinguishable and is NOT corrected by brotherly love and bear hugs. The Jews of America and elsewhere have made themselves targets, partly from their own misunderstanding of evil but they are now in the sights of the left.
It will take a surgical excision to stop the left; short of that a bludgeoning.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at July 22, 2018 12:28 PM (AsjQP)

42 Yeah, but the owner is from Israel, and Israelis do have a reputation for fighting back. So what's his excuse?
Posted by: Pete in TX

Californication, his balls have shrunk

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 12:29 PM (WVMDa)

43 31 Tossing shit is a "thing" now, isn't it?

And here I was thinking it was only Punky Monkey who did that...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 12:25 PM (iiixZ)


Notice how leftists lower - hell, destroy - the level of political discourse. They were pussy hats, the feminists constantly talk about their lady parts, the antifa clowns hit people with bicycle locks, these jokers are throwing feces.

And we're the barbarians.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:29 PM (YqDXo)

44 A lot of the dems are distancing themselves from she guevera for her anti-semitic and communist statements, but not from their anti-semitic and communist thoughts.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 12:29 PM (r+sAi)

45 Quit putting those words together. They don't want to be together.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:19 PM


This comment is evil in its imposition of harmful and hurtful word association stereotypes, and is evidence of the Commenter's inguistic bias that seeks to oppose the entirely virtuous Progressive efforts to teach that words would be far happier if they eschewed toxic cisheteropatriarchal rules in favor of diversity and freedom of association.

Posted by: Susan Smythe-Wokenstein at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (DMUuz)

46 And it's amusing to picture the anarchists' faces as they scoop the feces in preparation

It's difficult not to despise them

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (84I0r)

47 Tossing plastic bags of urine has been a thing in demonstrations for a
while, but that has to be loads easier to harvest than fecal matter.
=====

Dog parks (or my yard, for that matter) are an endlessly-renewable resource.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (MIKMs)

48 37 Catholic priest friend of mine decided to do his homily this week on The Pill. He contends that even people who take it, not for birth control, but for medical reasons, are not morally justified. The reasoning is that God created us all, and this created each woman's cycle. So, if she has a particularly heavy flow, or irregular cycle, or miserable cramping...well, that's the way God created her, and using pills to regulate it, would be wrong.

I find myself uncomfortable with this homily, and I am wondering how his congregation will take it. It's one thing to do a homily about sex or contraception in general or family planning. But, to do it specifically about the Pill seems quite pointed, and frankly it feels like shaming; I am wondering about my sister, who was put on BC at the age of 12, because she was bleeding so much that it was scary. I wonder how she would have felt sitting in church, and hearing that said to her.

I also find myself wondering when his sermon about condoms and viagra is going to be.

Catholic friends: what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?
Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:27 PM (TL2pK)

The reason for this particular homily is because there's talk of revising Humana Vitae, the encyclical which laid out why artificial contraception is a no-go for the Church.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (Izzlo)

49
It's difficult not to despise them
Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (84I0r)


-------

Why would you even try?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (CSNuj)

50 his idiot acolyte from NYC, Ocasio-Cortez

-
Bolshichick has an IQ approaching the teens.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)

51 The left has a feces fetish. I can't even pretend to understand it.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (nBr1j)

52 And where were the cops? I am pretty sure it is against the law to leave shit on the ground.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (JFO2v)

53 So, if she has a particularly heavy flow, or irregular cycle, or miserable cramping...well, that's the way God created her, and using pills to regulate it, would be wrong.

So if he has cancer, he won't have surgery? It was God's will, after all, God created him (and the tumor), so doing anything about it would be wrong.

Sounds more like Christian Science than Catholicism to me, and a perspective that is as loony as homeopathy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (YqDXo)

54 Tossing shit is a "thing" now, isn't it?

And here I was thinking it was only Punky Monkey who did that...
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Why isn't throwing shit an attack with a BW and subject to charges under the terrorism statues? and, a predicate justification for defensive use of deadly force.

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 12:32 PM (WVMDa)

55 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (lwiT4)

They think it's recyclable and they will get a deposit for it. Feces is the new soda bottle.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 22, 2018 12:33 PM (9BLnV)

56 They throw literal feces

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:33 PM (PUmDY)

57 Cicero, I try to stay clear of hate etc so I am worth a damn spiritually

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:33 PM (84I0r)

58
Bolshichick has an IQ approaching the teens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)

---------

What about her vaunted degree in economics? That's CREDENTIALS, baby!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (CSNuj)

59 See also: Noam Gnome Troll Chomsky

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (+y/Ru)

60 That was a question

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (PUmDY)

61 44 A lot of the dems are distancing themselves from she guevera for her anti-semitic and communist statements, but not from their anti-semitic and communist thoughts.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 12:29 PM (r+sAi)


She has the IQ of a rutabaga. She's blowing it for leftists by coming out of the closet so publicly.

And I say again, for the record: I'm gonna laugh my ass off if, or more likely when, she loses to Crowley in the general election.

Every time she quacks she makes that just a bit more likely.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (YqDXo)

62
I am wondering if the Catholic priest story is true.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (r+sAi)

63 things-i-learned-on-the-internet-looking-up-one-thing-after-another:

there are two formally jewish territories in the world -
israel and the jewish autonomous oblast. the oblast is a region in the far east of russia bordering china. the soviets didn't make it jewish as one of their forced migrations or exiles. they were attempting to spur development. the jewish population reached 40-50,000 and has since dropped to about 1,500. it still has streets named after writers such as sholem aleichem and a few yiddish schools.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (Pg+x7)

64 I foresee a Hep-A outbreak in SF dwarfing anything they got going on today.

Truly a 3rd world shithole. IYKWIMAIKYD

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (iiixZ)

65 Tiger is cooked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (Ydx5u)

66 And where were the cops? I am pretty sure it is against the law to leave shit on the ground.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (JFO2v)

Not in San Francisco! All hail the sanctuary cities for migrant feces!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (9BLnV)

67 I suppose throwing their shit makes it overkill to beat the shit out of them.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (nBr1j)

68 The priest is wrong.

I say this and admit I am not Catholic.

God gave mankind a brain and dominance over all things. This includes medicine. In my view the Pill as medicine is no different than aspirin for a headache, or penicillin for more serious disease.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (0tfLf)

69 Their own feces?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:36 PM (PUmDY)

70 What about her vaunted degree in economics? That's CREDENTIALS, baby!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (CSNuj)


The mother of one of our kid's friends teaches economics (OK, at a local high school with ashtrays, but never mind), and she is a raging liberal.

I truly do not understand how anyone can reconcile those two observations.

"I'm here at the Fight for $15, and ... oh jeez, look at the time! I've got to get back to deliver a lecture on economics. Must run. Bye!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:36 PM (YqDXo)

71 65 Tiger is cooked
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (Ydx5u)

How does one serve Tiger?

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:36 PM (Izzlo)

72 Catholic friends: what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?
Posted by: TickledPink

We need higher birth rates. I believe the Pill is a symptom of the moral declibe, not a cause. The extended adolescence of modern life is more of an issue. If college wasn't such a vacation from life, and kids had to face reality earlier - I don't think the pill would be such of an issue.

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (WVMDa)

73 Without all the wreckers and sabatoures, socialism works every time.

It's just that they are never able to purge all the wreckers and sabatoures before they wreck and sabotage socialism ...

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (TN1P5)

74 25 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 12:21 PM (Ydx5u)


That statement, as Winston Churchill would say, is exceedingly "pregnant with meaning."

Any hint of parlaying with the US means in reality, the regime is on the ropes.

I smell a huge opportunity here, or a trap. I would think PDT and his team know what's going on and will deal accordingly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (VM6ev)

75 Instead of it raining fire like in sodom it will rain explosive d*****a

Yuck

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (84I0r)

76 65 Tiger is cooked
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (Ydx5u)

How does one serve Tiger?
Posted by: josephistan

With a 9 iron

Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (WVMDa)

77 66 And where were the cops? I am pretty sure it is against the law to leave shit on the ground.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (JFO2v)

Not in San Francisco! All hail the sanctuary cities for migrant feces!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (9BLnV)


It's SF's way to promote snow ball fights in a place that doesn't get any snow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (YqDXo)

78 I'm hoping to see some mullahs hanging from cranes soon. It would break Obama's black little heart.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2018 12:39 PM (CSNuj)

79 Their own feces?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:36 PM (PUmDY)

Reminds me of a story Craig Ferguson told about waking up soaked in his own urine. He went on to add "at least I think it was my own urine. "

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:39 PM (nBr1j)

80 How does one serve Tiger?
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:36 PM (Izzlo)


In the forests of the night?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:39 PM (y87Qq)

81 69 Their own feces?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:36 PM (PUmDY)
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Yeah, I assumed it was their own (DIY, bro!) but maybe they outsourced it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:40 PM (gUCYC)

82 @48

Yes, he mentioned Humana Vitae, which I have to admit, I am not all that familiar with.

But are condoms not "artificial contraception" too? And IUDs? (Which I am aware probably didn't exist at that time) And so on and so forth? Why such a focus on one particular thing?

@53

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this was a little kooky. Judging by the fact that he has gotten exactly one like (from another priest) and no comments on his post, when he would normally have a lot of comments....I am guessing not many other people are real keen on his stance either.

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:40 PM (TL2pK)

83 Vote Democrat and Turn the World to Shit!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:40 PM (+y/Ru)

84 Sounds more like Christian Science than Catholicism to me, and a perspective that is as loony as homeopathy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (YqDXo)

Exactly.

It's not contraception when it is used medically. It is a pharmaceutical marvel that has helped thousands of women.

Tell the women with PCOS that they shouldn't take their hormone therapy. That should go over quite well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 12:40 PM (wYseH)

85 50 his idiot acolyte from NYC, Ocasio-Cortez

-
Bolshichick has an IQ approaching the teens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)


She is not the problem. It's the thousands of people who nod their head in agreement with her and cast ballots for her and her ilk that is the problem.

And it's not going away. Remember not 20 years ago we would've laughed out loud at anyone promoting homo marriage or transgenderism/girls rooms for pedophiles. Today, it's us who criticize it that are the freaks

Sanders and Crazy-Eyes are to be taken as seriously as stage 1 cancer. And it's probably stage 2 by now.

The sidebar link that CBD has about the KGB defector is directly related.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:41 PM (VM6ev)

86 Bolshichick has an IQ approaching the teens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)

Is it 12 or 20?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:42 PM (nBr1j)

87 CBD

What he said.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at July 22, 2018 12:42 PM (LOqRU)

88 There is no feeling more righteous and just than crapping into your own hands and flinging it like the lowest of primates. Viva la poopalucion!!!

Posted by: Little Lupe at July 22, 2018 12:43 PM (Tyii7)

89 That Cortez person has the crazy eyes. And although she has a degree, she's uneducated. Perfect example of what academia is churning out every June, for decades. En masse

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:43 PM (84I0r)

90 I'm thankful leftists don't know how to fly.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:43 PM (nBr1j)

91 Similar to the exploding dye on currency? Easy way to track thieves and rioters.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 12:24 PM (MIKMs)

If you shoot 'em dead on the spot, there is no need to track them. And the wounded ones leave a trail of blood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:44 PM (bNb8V)

92 >>>And Anyone Who Doesn't Believe It Is A Fool

I think we all believe it, but conservatives are too gutless to respond in kind. We voted ourselves out of it, and we thought the left would suffer in silence as we did during the Obama age.

But then they went all Brown Shirt and not even cabinet members are safe, let alone Kosher deli owners or numerous other small business targets.

We have no stomach for their kind of street warfare. It may well end with them intimidating our elected and appointed officials so that they end up with a de facto coup.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 12:44 PM (/qEW2)

93 75 Instead of it raining fire like in sodom it will rain explosive d*****a

Yuck
Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (84I0r)


Mt. St. Helens has shown the way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:44 PM (YqDXo)

94 Irans leader on Sunday left open the possibility of peace with the United States but cautioned President Trump against taking an aggressive stand with the Islamic Republic, saying an outbreak of hostilities between the two countries would lead to the mother of all wars, according to a report.

Didn't we already fight the mother of all wars? Is this another mother by another father? Step Mother? Mother Fucker?

-
The Mother-In-Law of All Wars?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:46 PM (+y/Ru)

95 89 That Cortez person has the crazy eyes. And although she has a degree, she's uneducated. Perfect example of what academia is churning out every June, for decades. En masse
Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:43 PM (84I0r)


I'll bet her degree is at least legitimate, her GPA notwithstanding, unlike a certain ex-president.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:46 PM (VM6ev)

96 93 75 Instead of it raining fire like in sodom it will rain explosive d*****a

Yuck
Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 12:37 PM (84I0r)

Mt. St. Helens has shown the way.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 12:44 PM (YqDXo)


"It's raining menses, hallelujah..."

- - SJW uses time machine to destroy hit 80s dance tune

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:47 PM (VM6ev)

97 No doubt the Episcopal and Catholic Lite religions have all jumped on the Gay Marriage and LBGTASDFJKL; bandwagons to become part of the IN crowd. They are much like the German churches in the late 30s and early 40s that were just shell organizations used to promote socialism, government, and racial strife.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 12:47 PM (JFO2v)

98
Didn't we already fight the mother of all wars? Is this another mother by another father? Step Mother? Mother Fucker?

-
The Mother-In-Law of All Wars?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:46 PM (+y/Ru)

Is Stormy Daniels the mother of all whores?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:47 PM (nBr1j)

99 50
Bolshichick has an IQ approaching the teens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)


Heh. That's the first I've heard of Bolshichick.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 12:47 PM (sdi6R)

100 90 I'm thankful leftists don't know how to fly.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 12:43 PM (nBr1j)


"Pfft."

- - Mohammed Atta

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:48 PM (VM6ev)

101 62
I am wondering if the Catholic priest story is true.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (r+sAi)
------------------------------
Heh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 12:48 PM (0jtPF)

102 Not a Catholic, but the widespread use of "The Pill" has been a net negative IMHO. As medication for certain conditions, I get it and that doesn't bother me. However, it's enabled promiscuity, lowered birth rates, and it screws with women's hormones in a way that interferes with bonding and mate selection. Plus all that artificial estrogen getting pissed into the water supply just can't be good.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:48 PM (NWiLs)

103 Their "religion" is Leftism. They have renounced their Judaism or have done the Iowahawk thing by killing it, gutting it and wearing the carcass as a skin suit, then proclaiming themselves holier than thou and using that as the pretext to attack Israel and real Jews as the apostates.

See also: Noam Chomsky, J-Street.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (VM6ev)

Yes and as long as some Jews support Socialism and the Left in general, they will continue to give the implicit go ahead for others to engage in poo-flinging and other activities against other Jews.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 12:48 PM (y8Foj)

104 92 >>>And Anyone Who Doesn't Believe It Is A Fool

I think we all believe it, but conservatives are too gutless to respond in kind. We voted ourselves out of it, and we thought the left would suffer in silence as we did during the Obama age.

But then they went all Brown Shirt and not even cabinet members are safe, let alone Kosher deli owners or numerous other small business targets.

We have no stomach for their kind of street warfare. It may well end with them intimidating our elected and appointed officials so that they end up with a de facto coup.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 12:44 PM (/qEW2)

There are some here who do. I just hope I'm not too old when shit jumps off.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:49 PM (NWiLs)

105 97
No doubt the Episcopal and Catholic Lite religions have all jumped on
the Gay Marriage and LBGTASDFJKL; bandwagons to become part of the IN
crowd. They are much like the German churches in the late 30s and early
40s that were just shell organizations used to promote socialism,
government, and racial strife.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 12:47 PM (JFO2v)

You can see that by every rainbow symbol a church as by their sign. Southern NH is flooded with them. And I don't hate them, nor do I fear them. But I DO disagree with their premise of having their lifestyle shoved in my face unapologetically.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 22, 2018 12:51 PM (D3cJf)

106 Flaming Skull Time:
Headline: "Judicial Watch Obtains Carter Page FISA Court Documents"
LINK: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y82q29gk (entire press release)

JW President Tom Filton quote:
"These documents are heavily redacted but seem to confirm the FBI and DOJ misled the courts in withholding the material information that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC were behind the "intelligence" used to persuade the courts to approve the FISA warrants that targeted the Trump team. Given this corruption, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted material."


Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 12:53 PM (Pqytn)

107 Lichterfelde barrackscourtardwallredux.


Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at July 22, 2018 12:53 PM (h7sWp)

108 Defend Boyle Heights is just another violent leftist tribal group. I would not be surprised if the gangs and the Dems are helping organize them. Drugs are big business--they don't want legal people there who will clean up their turf.

Posted by: PJ at July 22, 2018 12:55 PM (qlTN9)

109 You can see that by every rainbow symbol a church as by their sign. Southern NH is flooded with them. And I don't hate them, nor do I fear them. But I DO disagree with their premise of having their lifestyle shoved in my face unapologetically.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 22, 2018 12:51 PM (D3cJf)



Yup they have twisted and turned their religion into the lefty agenda. I see the rainbow flag in front of a number of churches and a synagogue has the rainbow flag with a rainbow Star of David in the center of it. The left destroys everything it touches

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 12:56 PM (SiINZ)

110 "But when those revolutionary struggles run out of Jews to persecute, or they need to expand the class struggle, they move on to their next targets, the Catholic Church and devout Protestants."

-------------

Democrats think they can ride the tiger but it will be everyone else who will pay for their mistakes.

You can't blame Democrats for their miscalculations when Republicans are worse. At the smallest sign of any misstep from Trump they jump in front of cameras to tell the world that's not who THEY are. The culprit today is Gowdy who should keep his mouth shut and slink off now that he has decided to exit Congress.

It seems that exiting Congress with these villains does not mean leaving politics, it now means that they can become unaccountable for any damage they cause.

It's probably borne of antipathy but Gowdy reminds me of a mole who just came out of his hole and can't see well. Then within minutes on the TV screen pops up Bob Menendez and the first word that pops into my mind is toad. I gotta stop watching TV.

Posted by: Decaf at July 22, 2018 12:56 PM (Mymqt)

111 Pompeo set to give speech on Iran today. Things have been roiling in Iran for over a month, big-time.


Sanctions noose seems to be real, and about to tighten. Many indicators Euro businesses, shippers, and financial operations reducing or closing out their dealings with Iran, even China reportedly switching petrochemical sourcing to Saudi Arabia.


I assume Trump's minimum demands for any sort of deal with Iran would be mine - that is to say, complete abandonment of almost everything Iran has been doing for over 25 years. Thus, I don't see any way the mullahs can deal.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 12:58 PM (QDnY+)

112 They make salt shooters as fun fly swatters. In my misspent youth the urban myth/rumor was on halloween the cops would have shotgun shells loaded with coarse salt.

If lefties are going to fling poo I want to be able to fire on them with salt. Maybe from an airgun. I wonder what it would take to mold salt into the proper pellet shapes and how much of a hit the light weight causes for ballistics.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 22, 2018 12:58 PM (r4KP2)

113 Flaming Skull Time:
Headline: "Judicial Watch Obtains Carter Page FISA Court Documents"
LINK: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y82q29gk (entire press release)

JW President Tom Filton quote:
"These documents are heavily redacted but seem to confirm the FBI and DOJ misled the courts in withholding the material information that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC were behind the "intelligence" used to persuade the courts to approve the FISA warrants that targeted the Trump team. Given this corruption, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted material."


Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 12:53 PM (Pqytn)

The word "seem" in the first sentence and the fact that the MSM considers Judicial Watch "right-wing" have given the go ahead to trash the report--and Trump's citing of it in a morning tweet--as "lacking evidence."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 12:59 PM (y8Foj)

114 Has anyone been able to get tickets from the Ticketmaster settlement?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:59 PM (2mXfd)

115 Well, of course any business owner who supports Trump should have poo flung at him/xer. That's simple enough.

But the sin of "gentrification" is pretty confusing. On one hand, it is wicked NOT to improve poorer neighborhoods. OTOH, it is wicked to do so.

On one hand, it is excellent if Mexicans overrun what the link says is a formerly Jewish neighborhood. OTOH, it would certainly be wicked if a black neighborhood were overrun by Kazakhs.

On one hand, it would surely be wicked for a Jew to flee his neighborhood if it were being overrun with Mexicans.
OTOH, it is wicked for him to stay and open a business.

Hmmm.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:00 PM (0jtPF)

116 JW President Tom Filton quote:
"These documents are heavily redacted but seem to confirm the FBI and DOJ misled the courts in withholding the material information that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC were behind the "intelligence" used to persuade the courts to approve the FISA warrants that targeted the Trump team. Given this corruption, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted material."


Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 12:53 PM (Pqytn)


Deep State? What Deep State?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:01 PM (SiINZ)

117 17 These groups of supposed "anti-gentrification" or "anti-Trump" are segregationists.
Posted by: batterup at July 22, 2018 12:17 PM (U2JQS)


And when their "hoods" are uniformly black or brown, they'll whine about segregation and being stuck in a ghetto with each other.

So the only constant here is that they'll be whining. Why is that? Because they're whipped up into whining by the Communists, who don't care about gentrification or segregation. They only see potential wedge issues for agitation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:01 PM (rpzii)

118 You can see that by every rainbow symbol a church as by their sign. Southern NH is flooded with them. And I don't hate them, nor do I fear them. But I DO disagree with their premise of having their lifestyle shoved in my face unapologetically.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 22, 2018 12:51 PM (D3cJf)

That stupid rainbow flag is prominently displayed outside every Episcopalian church.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:01 PM (y8Foj)

119
We shall shit on the beaches,
we shall shit on the parking lots,
we shall shit in the fields and in the streets,
we shall shit in the restaurants;
we shall never surrender!!!

Posted by: Sir Little Lupe at July 22, 2018 01:02 PM (Tyii7)

120 Catholic friends: what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?

Posted by: TickledPink

Ima thinking the Priest has not accurately expressed the true teachings of the faith. But I am no Catholic scholar. As a previous poster mentioned, the Pill is also a very helpful medical treatment and is thus treated differently by the Church.

Father screwed up, IMHO.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (9rIkM)

121 115 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:00 PM (0jtPF)

Speaking of Boyle Heights, turn back the clock to the halcyon days of December 1995, in Harlem USA. Freddie's Fashion Mart...

Guess who?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (VM6ev)

122 80% of American Jews vote Dem
Look at the Hess in Congress !!!

Posted by: Comrade at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (yqMyC)

123 @102

Thanks for your thoughts. You make an excellent point, which doesn't seem as loony as my friend's.

I would say lowering of the birth rates is somewhere between a neutral or net positive. We are overpopulated as it is, and I don't know about you, but some people....I don't really want them to breed 4 or 5 kids out....just saying.

On promiscuity....I am not sure where I fall on that. I have nothing to back this up, no research or statistics, just my intuition. I tend to think the women most likely to be promiscuous are the ones hoping the condom doesn't break or taking a morning after pill or having an abortion. The women responsible enough to go to their OB Gyn and get on a pill I would say are more likely to be the ones in a relationship or at least single-partner people. I'm not saying this is ALWAYS the case...I am just saying my gut says women that are irresponsible enough to sleep around probably aren't responsible enough to plan ahead on birth control. Again, I could be wrong.

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (TL2pK)

124 "Given this corruption, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted material."

-----------

I agree but hope he does so close to the midterm elections. They have tried their damnedest and are still doing so to invalid dare the 2016 election, they will need to pay and pay dearly.

It seems being civil is now a disadvantage so why should the Right hamstring themselves. Every rhetorical attack available should be used against the Left.

Posted by: Decaf at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (Mymqt)

125 Iran must have forgotten that a country they fought to a stalemate for eight years was defeated in a few weeks by the USA.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (2DOZq)

126 Golf on TV: Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, some mumblemumble guy 10 under par, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, commercial with Tiger Woods or the fat guy on some medicine, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (EoRCO)

127 The lefties have declared that gentrification is racist. A coffee shop in Denver got savaged for writing "we are proud to gentrify this neighborhood" a year or so ago. Growing up in the outer wilderness known as North Dakota I always thought thatgentrification just meant building higher value houses and more productive businesses in an area.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 22, 2018 01:05 PM (r4KP2)

128 JW President Tom Filton quote:
"These documents are heavily redacted but seem to confirm the FBI and DOJ misled the courts in withholding the material information that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC were behind the "intelligence" used to persuade the courts to approve the FISA warrants that targeted the Trump team. Given this corruption, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted material."

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 12:53 PM



"...seem to confirm..." Yay, another nonsmoking gun. Wake me when Judicial Watch or Devin Nunes get some UN-redacted documents. Sick of this shiznit. We can't win this with nothingburgers.

Posted by: Hands at July 22, 2018 01:05 PM (EzdLW)

129 The people throwing feces at a deli are the same ones who whine about their neighborhoods being "food deserts".

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

130 Freddie's Fashion Mart...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (VM6ev)

Ah yes...Pogrom On The Hudson.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:05 PM (wYseH)

131 ...and it screws with women's hormones in a way that interferes with bonding and mate selection.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:48 PM


I think there's something else. Wife and I married young, had our offspring quickly, I hit Dr. V as soon as the last brat splatted out. No BC for the wife. Otherwise it could have been a two to two and a half decade thing.

People mistake her for a woman 20 years younger. Hair, skin, lack of wrinkles...I don't think it's a coincidence.

IIRC, the original 'formula' for BC pills involved horse urine. I won't nag about it any more.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:05 PM (LOgQ4)

132 80% of American Jews vote Dem
Look at the Hess in Congress !!!

Posted by: Comrade at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (yqMyC)



Rudolf?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (SiINZ)

133 Who saves their feces and brings it to a store? Do they put it in a Tupperware?
Yes, the left has really fallen in love with poo. It started with the poop maps in San Francisco and all the reports of homeless people pooping in storefronts and streets. It's the ultimate F U to society, so they love it. A Return to the Primitive!

Posted by: PJ at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (qlTN9)

134

Incidentally, how foolish are we to refer to that idiot by her two stupid names?

Really, why do we indulge this nonsense? Does it not make us party to the lunacy?

Her name is cortez.
If she had five last names, how many of you would actually say the whole name? Enough already.

Her name is cortez.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (SFYwZ)

135 >>The word "seem" in the first sentence and the fact that the MSM considers Judicial Watch "right-wing" have given the go ahead to trash the report--and Trump's citing of it in a morning tweet--as "lacking evidence."

Which only provides more evidence that our media is hopelessly biased and corrupt. Anyone who has been following this story and who has read the warrant knows exactly what happened.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (/tuJf)

136 how did i get to the jewish autonomous oblast? it was mentioned in an article on russian missile deployments on the chinese border which was linked from an article on russia interests which was linked from an article by carolyn glick on the real results of the helsinki summit. they were significant - russia and the u.s. agreeing on limiting iran in syria (and now iran is talking peace with the u.s.) andrussian agreement on n.korean denuclearization and several other matters. glick writes exceedingly well on policy issues. i highly recommend her - she can be found at breitbart, power line and her own blog.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (Pg+x7)

137 OK, somebody else already broke the FISA barrier.


It looks as bad, or worse, as everyone has assumed and as some with access (Nunes, et al) have been asserting.


And there are sub-themes and rivulets that are also very very bad. Such as the FBI claiming falsely that it didn't know Steele and journos were involved in a circular "confirmation" game as far as "evidence" was concerned.


Only one angle remains, possibly, to render this less explosively scandalous and illegal than it appears: that redacted parts contain reporting from sources other than Steele/recycled/laundered b.s.


Chuck Ross makes a good point on this: if the redacted parts are the meaty really secret stuff, then why does the FBI in a footnote stress (itself idiotic, but that's another story) that Steele's track record of credible reporting is the basis for confidence in what was the "dossier" b.s.?


Not sure how to navigate this one. But the redacted (substantive) parts really need to be made public, so if the FISA process was as grossly and criminally abused as it appears, there is no doubt.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (QDnY+)

138 The word "seem" in the first sentence and the fact
that the MSM considers Judicial Watch "right-wing" have given the go
ahead to trash the report--and Trump's citing of it in a morning
tweet--as "lacking evidence."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 12:59 PM (y8Foj)

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The MSM can trash it all they want to, but since it is a FBI-DOJ product issued independently of the House-Senate oversight committees, it has greater relevance and it makes a presidential argument for declassification feasible.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 01:07 PM (Pqytn)

139 was defeated in a few weeks by the USA.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (2DOZq)

...while operating under restrictive rules of engagement.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:07 PM (wYseH)

140 Hmmm.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille


The problem with being an SJW is that eventually you run out "on the one hands".

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 01:07 PM (fRQju)

141 Given this corruption, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted material."

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I agree but hope he does so close to the midterm elections. They have tried their damnedest and are still doing so to invalid dare the 2016 election, they will need to pay and pay dearly.

It seems being civil is now a disadvantage so why should the Right hamstring themselves. Every rhetorical attack available should be used against the Left.
Posted by: Decaf at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (Mymqt)

I also hope he declassifies, but I want him to make a speech before the nation--a prime time televised speech, NOT a series of tweets or a rally before a friendly crowd-- laying out the reasons WHY he will declassify. Explain the situation to regular people who haven't been playing too close attention.
If he does it the right way, the public will DEMAND to see the docs.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:07 PM (y8Foj)

142 121
Speaking of Boyle Heights, turn back the clock to the halcyon days of December 1995, in Harlem USA. Freddie's Fashion Mart...

Guess who?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (VM6ev)
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I am at a loss here.
Freddie's Fashion Mart rings a bell but my old brain won't answer it!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:08 PM (0jtPF)

143 Gays go on strike in Israel, march in Tel Aviv

TEL AVIV, Israel - Hundreds of Israeli LGBT advocates and their supporters are on strike, protesting the exclusion of gay men from a recently passed surrogacy law.

Protesters marched in Tel Aviv and other Israeli cities on Sunday, waving rainbow flags and briefly blocking a major highway.

The community is outraged that after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to pass legislation supporting surrogacy for gay fathers. He then voted against it, apparently under pressure from his ultra-Orthodox Jewish coalition partners.

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Well, once the Palestinians take over, everything will be fine.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:08 PM (+y/Ru)

144
Can someone tell me the impact/motive of the latest fbi (spit) release of a redacted document regarding Carter Page?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 01:09 PM (SFYwZ)

145 Which only provides more evidence that our media is hopelessly biased and corrupt. Anyone who has been following this story and who has read the warrant knows exactly what happened.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (/tuJf)

Exactly--and you have been great at explaining a lot of this stuff.
But the media has the bullhorn.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:09 PM (y8Foj)

146 >> 108 Defend Boyle Heights is just another violent leftist tribal group. I
would not be surprised if the gangs and the Dems are helping organize
them. Drugs are big business--they don't want legal people there who
will clean up their turf.

And I absolutely loath the much bandied about term gentrification, meaning "To clean up, or make a place no longer smell constantly like shit and putrefaction". The mob said they were fighting gentrification, fighting to force their shitty lives on others. I hear more of this all the time.

It's the opposite of the broken window phenomenon. They want broken windows so a place can go all to hell because that, apparently, is what they like and want you to enjoy as well.

Posted by: bananadream at July 22, 2018 01:09 PM (YR7aL)

147 But the sin of "gentrification" is pretty confusing. On one hand, it is wicked NOT to improve poorer neighborhoods. OTOH, it is wicked to do so.

The only people who CAN improve a neighborhood are the people who live there, as it is impossible to promote heresy in a church to which you don't belong.

Consider this thought experiment: suppose the residents of a poor neighborhood decide that they've had enough, and one Saturday morning get out in force and clean up the place. Pick up all the litter, scrub out or paint over all the grafitti, hose down the sidewalks, mow all the lawns, use a weed whacker on all the overgrown lots, etc.

I would imagine that the subliminal message would get out, and ultimately spread. Sure, gangs would resist it, probably violently, perhaps successfully, but maybe not, especially if the neighborhood banded together, became armed, and parents whose kids were involved in gangs unceremoniously kicked them out of the house.

The message to them would be clear: this is OUR neighborhood, not yours.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:10 PM (rpzii)

148 It's astonishing, but I've actually been to what was the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (it's "capital", Birobidzhan). Actually can't recall much (obviously a work trip), but I think I must have gone via Khabarovsk (on the Amur River/border with the screaming Chineee).


Not much there to remember. Flat, featureless. Town was as charming as you'd expect a Soviet city in the hinterlands to be.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:10 PM (QDnY+)

149 80% of American Jews vote Dem

Only 71% voted for the FAB

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:10 PM (Ydx5u)

150 ... glick's article on the helsinki summit was the first thing i've seen on the substance of the trump-putin meeting. and i hold trump responsible for not making a concrete policy statement on its results. there was almost nothing on policy from the administration to counter the wild hysteria that followed. bad. weak. not beautiful.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 01:10 PM (Pg+x7)

151 140---The problem with being an SJW is that eventually you run out "on the one hands".
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 01:07 PM (fRQju)
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Indeed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:11 PM (0jtPF)

152 Cuba is abandoning communism.

Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

I'm sure that'll work out well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:11 PM (+y/Ru)

153 Which only provides more evidence that our media is hopelessly biased and corrupt. Anyone who has been following this story and who has read the warrant knows exactly what happened.

Posted by: JackStraw


The whole thing was false from the beginning, Obama ordered it, the FISA judges who signed off were in on it, and they as well the press reporting most stridently on it were all being paid by Fusion GPS.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 01:12 PM (fRQju)

154 Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

Yeah, totally different.

Socialism is to communism as a heavy cold is to the flu.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (rpzii)

155 148 rhomboid:

that is astonishing!

this blog covers the world!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (Pg+x7)

156 The whole thing was false from the beginning, Obama ordered it, the FISA judges who signed off were in on it, and they as well the press reporting most stridently on it were all being paid by Fusion GPS.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 01:12 PM (fRQju)

Sounds about right

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (Ydx5u)

157
Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

In other words, Cuba is re-branding/re-packaging communism. Because socialism and communism is the same thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (SFYwZ)

158 I wonder if Leftists ever think about what Spain would be like today if the Communists had won? The glorification of the Republicans is the only time I can recall that the losers got to write the history.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (2DOZq)

159 Her name is cortez.
If she had five last names, how many of you would actually say the whole name? Enough already.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (SFYwZ)


Eh. It's like how most east-Asian names will have the surname then given name. Just a different way of doing it. It's awkward, but then, you can tell what brand of toothpaste someone's great-aunt used just from their name.

Posted by: Benjamín hogmartin Acosar Eduardo Maria-Sofia de Cabrones y Hormigas at July 22, 2018 01:15 PM (y87Qq)

160 Freddie's Fashion Mart.
Yeah, now I remember.

I also remember a time when no Dem with any hopes, however remote, of advancing in national politics would be seen with Al Sharpton.

Now he's "mainstream."
Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:15 PM (0jtPF)

161
Socialism is a euphemism for communism; it's not a hybrid of communism and capitalism, nor is it a milder form of communism.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 01:16 PM (SFYwZ)

162 I also hope he declassifies, but I want him to make a
speech before the nation--a prime time televised speech, NOT a series
of tweets or a rally before a friendly crowd-- laying out the reasons
WHY he will declassify. Explain the situation to regular people who
haven't been playing too close attention.

If he does it the right way, the public will DEMAND to see the docs.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:07 PM (y8Foj)

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A prime-time speech would be an excellent venue. I wonder if the nets - cable and broadcast - would televise it.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 01:16 PM (Pqytn)

163 134
If she had five last names, how many of you would actually say the whole name? Enough already.

Her name is cortez.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (SFYwZ)


Her campaign poster had "Ocasio" in big letters, so maybe that's what she goes by. I dunno.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:16 PM (sdi6R)

164 Cuba is abandoning communism.

Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

I'm sure that'll work out well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:11 PM (+y/Ru)



So is the shithole that is Cuber now socialism that we can point to or is it still not real socialism?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:17 PM (SiINZ)

165 So Punk Monkey was protesting? Maybe he was just being Punk Monkey and didn't know better

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 01:17 PM (pHfeF)

166 A prime-time speech would be an excellent venue. I wonder if the nets - cable and broadcast - would televise it.
Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 01:16 PM (Pqytn)

Float a rumor that he's considering resigning or may withdraw from 2020 re-election.

They'll carry it.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (y8Foj)

167 A good comment on the state of affairs is this old campaign joke - what's the difference between Donald Trump and the typical Reform Jew? A: Donald Trump has Jewish grandchildren.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:16 PM (V2Yro)

David Horowitz famously noted that reform Judaism is the DNC with holidays.

I'll state up front my wife is Jewish as are our Kids, both of whom are excellent shots and have been going to the range since age 7. In fact I had to pull my 9 year old daughter off the pinking range a few weeks back because she was having such a good time.

But, the problem we have in my neck of the woods is that the reform temples are heavy supporters of gun control and push that actively. In fact my state rep plays up his temple, gun control is his no.1 issue and his Holocaust anniversary speech had a gun control message. Oy Vey. The irony burns. I know 100 times more about the holocaust than these tools.

Highland Park, Deerfield and Northbrook-the three municipalities that are pushing AWBs are also in my slice of the world and are also led, largely, by reform Jews.

For balance, of course, the most extreme "religious" gun control figure in my state is Father Faker. But, I have become involved in trying to get some grass roots opposition going and around here that will likely involve some form of education and confrontation with these folk.

On the plus side there are a bunch of Russian Jews who are huge 2nd Amendment supporters. On the minus side they are not very religious so they don't have an inside track at the temples.

So this is a tough nut to crack. I'm not sure what pressures can be brought to bear or divisions exploited within the religious community. One thought is to bypass that and go to the normies who still live in the area and are in many cases left leaning but not fully commie and balance their power and influence.

Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (USf3s)

168
Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

Instead of, "You toil and work and earn bread, and I'll eat it." It will now become, "You toil and work and earn bread, and I'll eat it."

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (LOgQ4)

169 >>Why didn't they go after some Korean shop owner who was expanding? Because he would have called 50 of his friends and the protesters would have gotten their asses kicked.


Or some Hmong, who would have done them all and said,
"What?"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (1g7ch)

170 Change to Socialism in Cuba.

Instead of only the privileged having 57 Chevys, everyone will be issued a 57 Chevy.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (2DOZq)

171 Cuba is abandoning communism.

Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

I'm sure that'll work out well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:11 PM (+y/Ru)

I wouldn't be surprised if they ask for a summit with Trump.
I'm serious.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:19 PM (y8Foj)

172
I think this worrying about obstruction of justice charge that some seem to be advising the President is a mistake and he should just end the Mueller scam. If the Dems control the House after the election, there will be any number of bullshit arguments to vote to impeach.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 01:20 PM (r+sAi)

173 Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (USf3s)

Sigh

Hang in there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:20 PM (Ydx5u)

174 So is the shithole that is Cuber now socialism that we can point to or is it still not real socialism?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:17 PM (SiINZ)

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We'll find out if Cubans cross the Florida Straits in converted amphibious Nissans instead of clapped-out Studebakers.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 01:20 PM (Pqytn)

175 How do you unsubscribe from next door?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 01:20 PM (PUmDY)

176 Sure, gangs would resist it, probably violently,

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I watched a doc on rap group NWA (African-Americans With Attitude) who explained the violence in their songs such as Fvck the Police by describing the horrible conditions in their home town of Compton. But all their examples were blacks victimizing other blacks; e.g., drug dealers, gangbangers, rapists, robbers etc. I'm sure fvcking the police will help that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

177 Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

Ah...a brighter tomorrow!

Posted by: Max Das Boot at July 22, 2018 01:22 PM (Tyii7)

178
American socialists slavishly follow the European party line.

Jew hate is baked into Europe's DNA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 01:23 PM (vKPAL)

179 Sigh

Hang in there
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:20 PM (Ydx5u)


Yeah. It sucks to live in a part of the country where you not only have to worry about gun control at the federal or state level, but at the level of a handful of village trustees who are barely competent to decided on zoning variances but have this burning need to virtue signal on national civil rights issues.

Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:23 PM (USf3s)

180 Cuba aims to build socialism, not communism, in draft constitution...

Instead of, "You toil and work and earn bread, and I'll eat it." It will now become, "You toil and work and earn bread, and I'll eat it."

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Putting the red in The Little Red Hen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:23 PM (+y/Ru)

181 "I am wondering if the Catholic priest story is true.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (r+sAi)"

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I'm a regular church going Catholic and I don't find this credible..

Posted by: Decaf at July 22, 2018 01:24 PM (Mymqt)

182 Through the Vatican?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 01:24 PM (PUmDY)

183 Only Trump keeps us from realizing a New Liberal World Order!!!

Posted by: Max Das Boot at July 22, 2018 01:25 PM (Tyii7)

184 120
Catholic friends: what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?



Posted by: TickledPink

Ima thinking the Priest has not
accurately expressed the true teachings of the faith. But I am no
Catholic scholar. As a previous poster mentioned, the Pill is also a
very helpful medical treatment and is thus treated differently by the
Church.

Father screwed up, IMHO.


Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (9rIkM)

Agreed.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 22, 2018 01:25 PM (D3cJf)

185 141 If he does it the right way, the public will DEMAND to see the docs.

Until Helsinki I thought he knew the right way. Now I am not sure. He needed a chummy meeting with Vlad like he needed a hole in the head. Only way to make it worse was to keep the content a secret.. bingo! Good thing nobody in the media or the Dems knows enough history to have read about that *Never Interrupt Your Enemy...* shit, huh?!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 22, 2018 01:26 PM (Vs607)

186 "No doubt the Episcopal and Catholic Lite religions have all jumped on the Gay Marriage and LBGTASDFJKL; bandwagons to become part of the IN crowd."

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No Catholic church has anything to do with gay marriage at all.

Posted by: Decaf at July 22, 2018 01:26 PM (Mymqt)

187 musical jolly chimp, absoeffinglutely on the public affairs catastrophe on the *administration* end of the post-Helsinki furore (which exceeded, amazingly, all previous ones in the idiocy it brought out - "treason!" and that nonsense).


Trump ticked off policy areas discussed with Putin, but much more was needed. It's standard after any meeting like this to put some meat on the bones of your claims. Principals brief on background, show a little leg. It doesn't appear to have happened, which I find baffling.


My assumption - based on actually understanding the world and following what Trump has actually been doing in that world - that the meeting was quite a success for the US, in that pressure was applied/guidelines set out for the few areas in which Russia matters to us (basically, Iran and North Korea).


Collateral events might shed some light on this, soon.


But even though most of the "press" is an unrecognizable disaster now, an administration has to be in the ring, swinging hard. Especially when they're right, and succeeding.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:27 PM (QDnY+)

188 We long for that day where everyone is equally miserable! Wait, what?

Posted by: Max Das Boot at July 22, 2018 01:27 PM (Tyii7)

189 @181

I'd be happy to screenshot his FB feed.

He also recently posted that Prozac isn't comparable to Soma, the pill in Brave New World.

He said birth control pills are the comparison to Soma. Honestly, I am not sure how the 2 are even remotely comparable.

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 01:27 PM (TL2pK)

190 And for the people who actually aren't part of the maniacal (because "loony" is not strong enough of a word) left start saying "I don't want to be a part of THAT religion-ie, the religion of leftism) and "walk away". The decent people walk away. BTW, I don't think these actions make the Orthodox Jews more likely to leave their religion or less likely to support Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 01:28 PM (AllCR)

191 163--Her campaign poster had "Ocasio" in big letters, so maybe that's what she goes by. I dunno.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:16 PM (sdi6R)
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Yeah, it's the penultimate name, which is the paternal one, that you go by when shortening it.
So Miguel Cervantes Saavedra becomes "Cervantes" or "Miguel Cervantes."

When my family immigrated here way back when, we changed our names to conform to Anglo usage. My Taiwanese SIL did the same. Common sense!




Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:28 PM (0jtPF)

192 The glorification of the Republicans is the only time I can recall that the losers got to write the history.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (2DOZq)


Also the only time in history that leftists supported Republicans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:29 PM (rpzii)

193 >> 62 I am wondering if the Catholic priest story is true.

Just to be safe though, we should probably ban all tampons.

Posted by: Mitttttt Rombley at July 22, 2018 01:30 PM (YR7aL)

194 167
his Holocaust anniversary speech had a gun control message.
Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (USf3s)


Good grief. There is ignorance and then there is willful ignorance.

I hate to repeat myself, but I said the same thing yesterday about somebody else.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:30 PM (sdi6R)

195 And to tie some threads together here in, well, the thread - Boyle Heights has a Jewish cemetery, having been the first big Jewish neighborhood of LA.


Not sure what condition it's in now. Pretty big. Drove by it years ago.


Stopped and got some fantastic tacos at a stand on the main drag.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:30 PM (QDnY+)

196 The Italian foes into the lead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:30 PM (Ydx5u)

197 Goes I mean

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:30 PM (Ydx5u)

198 Drudge is always showing that Cortez broad in an action poses with her hands pointing, flaying, mouth wide open, eyes all bugged out or all of the above.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 01:31 PM (EoRCO)

199 Highland Park, Deerfield and Northbrook-the three municipalities that are pushing AWBs are also in my slice of the world and are also led, largely, by reform Jews.



The synagogue with the rainbow flag and rainbow Star of David is in Northbrook. A lot of the Protestant churches in that area have a rainbow flag out front too. That whole area, for the most part, is loaded with leftists. But like all lefties (outside of rainbow flags) they don't want actual lefty policies to affect them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:31 PM (SiINZ)

200 Catholic friends: what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?
Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:27 PM (TL2pK)

So did he also note same for viagra and a man's physiology?

Or for severe cystic acne and a teenager's physiology?

Or for cancer and the cancer patient's physiology?

Basically this homily is a throwback to avoiding medical treatment because God wanted you to have that disease. Stupid because there is no aspect of life for which this argument could not be invoked.

Don't put gas in your car. God wants you to run out of Gas.

Put your umbrella down. God wanted you to get wet.

And those who invoke this with regard to some aspect of another's medical care never have a good reason why it doesn't apply to the things they want to do.

I've met those who insist that they will pray away their cancer or heart disease. One time a man came back with a major change in his medical condition for the better.

Interestingly when I saw him back he was there to get preoperative assessment before an unrelated surgery. "I prayed about it and this time God wants me to undergo the surgery."

The others mainly needed to be admitted with progressive destabilization and worsening of their diseases.

Posted by: Jade Sea at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (0sWXw)

201

Not sure how to navigate this one. But the redacted (substantive) parts really need to be made public, so if the FISA process was as grossly and criminally abused as it appears, there is no doubt.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (QDnY+)

Any secret organization is headed to corruption from day one.

And this is the way the FISA court should work. One team builds a prosecution and another a defense. Both get to see each other's work. Judge gets two reports. Weekly reviews and reauthorization with oral recordings of all discussions.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (e1mEI)

202 Trump ticked off policy areas discussed with Putin, but much more was needed. It's standard after any meeting like this to put some meat on the bones of your claims. Principals brief on background, show a little leg. It doesn't appear to have happened, which I find baffling.

I thought Trump had said beforehand that this was basically a meet and greet rather than a summit to hammer out concrete policy matters.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (rpzii)

203 Yeah, it's the penultimate name, which is the paternal one, that you go by when shortening it.
So Miguel Cervantes Saavedra becomes "Cervantes" or "Miguel Cervantes."


And that's why Garcia got booted.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (2s3aR)

204 I'm starting to think Alexandra Ocasia Commie is using pupil dilation because her eyes are way to big.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (pHfeF)

205 When white people leave a city, it's condemned as white flight.When white people move back to a city, it's condemned as gentrification.
Seems to be a pattern here.
//True Boyle Heights story: A priest put up a camera in the parking lot because parishioners' cars were being ripped off while they were in church. Turns out it was a parishioner, who brought his wife and little boy with him and was teaching them the ropes.

Posted by: PJ at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (qlTN9)

206 Anybody but Tiger. He's not a good person. I'd be remiss though if I didn't mention that his niece Cheyenne Woods is pretty hot.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:33 PM (2DOZq)

207 Drudge is always showing that Cortez broad in an action poses with her
hands pointing, flaying, mouth wide open, eyes all bugged out or all of
the above.


She must have graduated from Democrat Toastmasters.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 22, 2018 01:33 PM (Tyii7)

208 Actually Niemöller said, "First they came for the Communists...". Jews were third on the list.

Posted by: RogPodge at July 22, 2018 01:33 PM (WQfDg)

209 Anybody but Tiger. He's not a good person. I'd be remiss though if I didn't mention that his niece Cheyenne Woods is pretty hot.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:33 PM (2DOZq)

Well you can relax, he did not win

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:34 PM (Ydx5u)

210 It's a dirty secret that many inner city residents want a base level of crime and anarchy to keep the rents low

But that doesn't stop the complaining about conditions in the ghetto, and cries that more money needs to be pumped in

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2018 01:34 PM (fs/xs)

211 Until Helsinki I thought he knew the right way. ----


What exactly (in context) did Trump do wrong? Hell if my words were parsed as hard as his are I should probably be in prison.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 01:35 PM (YdakM)

212
So this is a tough nut to crack. I'm not sure
what pressures can be brought to bear or divisions exploited within the
religious community. One thought is to bypass that and go to the normies
who still live in the area and are in many cases left leaning but not
fully commie and balance their power and influence. Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (USf3s)
=====

So far, 26 IL counties have declared themselves 'sanctuaries' for 2nd Amd support. 14 more considering the same. (Per Illinois Review)

I have a sister in Deerfield. Scary people sometimes.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 01:35 PM (MIKMs)

213 Drudge is always showing that Cortez broad in an action poses with her
hands pointing, flaying, mouth wide open, eyes all bugged out or all of
the above.

Still waiting for word of any boyfriends....my money is still on her being a lesbo...not that there is anything wrong with that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:35 PM (Ydx5u)

214 "my money is still on her being a lesbo..."

Resume enhancement!

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commenter at July 22, 2018 01:36 PM (w7KSn)

215
Hillary in her hospital gown made it to Drudge.

Me: Alexa, is Hillary Clinton president of the United States?
Alexa: Donald Trump is president of the United States.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:37 PM (LOgQ4)

216 I know, the "e" should have an accent over it...
Comes out like a black diamond on my end.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commenter at July 22, 2018 01:37 PM (w7KSn)

217 Fox Theater sent ma an email about Roy Orbison hologram show. WTH?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 01:37 PM (PUmDY)

218 Oh, and FISAing again - there are all sorts of crimes (false attestations and statements) that people have sussed out of the details. Lies under oath about various aspects. It's bewildering, the amount and variety of things like this.


A few twatterers have been following these things, but jumping around between them leaves one a bit overwhelmed.


Horowitz is now reportedly pursuing this aspect of the mega-scandal, but based on his Clinton Espionage Act report, my expectations are close to zero. Presumably, hopefully, Huber or others are actually really investigating this.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:37 PM (QDnY+)

219 These are Mexicans protecting their relatively low rent turf from gentrifiers. It is a big thing in California. A Jew with a coffee shop is seen as whites moving in, which raises rents forcing them further out. BTW, many Jews use Latinos to flush out blacks from marketable real estate. See LA, Brooklyn and now Chicago. Once blacks are gone the real estate can be populated with white hipsters - then its manna from heaven.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 01:38 PM (vV/gB)

220 "So far, 26 IL counties have declared themselves 'sanctuaries' for 2nd Amd support. 14 more considering the same. (Per Illinois Review)"

I live in one of them. Need to see how this plays out when the first court case shows up.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Where's the Captain at July 22, 2018 01:38 PM (V8bv6)

221 197 Goes I mean
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:30 PM (Ydx5u)
------------------------
Damn. I was picturing the Venetian navy attacking the Turks.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (0jtPF)

222 Posted by: RogPodge at July 22, 2018 01:33 PM (WQfDg)

Yup.

But he wrote a few variations too.

The point is the same though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (wYseH)

223 Actually Niemöller said, "First they came for the Communists...". Jews were third on the list.

Yeah, my only criticism of it. I'd be fine if he never mentioned the commies.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (LOgQ4)

224 Any secret organization is headed to corruption from day one.

And this is the way the FISA court should work. One team builds a prosecution and another a defense. Both get to see each other's work. Judge gets two reports. Weekly reviews and reauthorization with oral recordings of all discussions.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (e1mEI)


The Devil's Advocate. A crucial management tool for avoiding stampedes and group think.

I used to test subordinates' mettle by making them make the best argument they could for the contrary position. This was especially useful when they were clearly passionate about the position they were advocating.

"Now give me the best argument(s) you can against your proposed course of action."

"There is no argument against it."

Wrong answer.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (rpzii)

225 The synagogue with the rainbow flag and rainbow Star of David is in Northbrook. A lot of the Protestant churches in that area have a rainbow flag out front too. That whole area, for the most part, is loaded with leftists. But like all lefties (outside of rainbow flags) they don't want actual lefty policies to affect them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:31 PM (SiINZ)

Absolutely. I used to have Mark Kirk as my federal state rep and gun control was about his top issue as well.

The left is so extreme and unhinged, and with pritzker running for governor as a full blown progressive and Emanual talking this free living wage shit there might be room to scare those in the area enough on the fiscal vs socialist issues.

The federal rep that covers this area is currently a dem but his district goes all the way up into McHenry county. He tries to play centrist but he might be flipable this election.

Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (USf3s)

226 Occasional Cortex and her eyes being all bugged out is a clear indication how excited she is about Socialism and how sure she is about "getting it right" this time.

She will have lots of help from the donks in trying to make that a reality.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (iiixZ)

227 Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 01:38 PM (vV/gB)

Mostly Illegal Mexicans I assume .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (2DOZq)

228 Not sure how to navigate this one. But the redacted (substantive) parts really need to be made public, so if the FISA process was as grossly and criminally abused as it appears, there is no doubt.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (QDnY+)

Any secret organization is headed to corruption from day one.

And this is the way the FISA court should work. One team builds a prosecution and another a defense. Both get to see each other's work. Judge gets two reports. Weekly reviews and reauthorization with oral recordings of all discussions.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 01:32 PM (e1mEI)

Let get this straight. Has Trump seen the redacted parts?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:40 PM (y8Foj)

229 187 rhomboid:

you have to hope trump is so much a results oriented guy that his obliviousness to communicating the results will be remedied over time by concrete accomplishments. trump can have a tin ear - he seems to subscribe to the idea that there's no bad publicity - as long as they spell his name right.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 01:40 PM (Pg+x7)

230 223 Actually Niemöller said, "First they came for the Communists...". Jews were third on the list.

Yeah, my only criticism of it. I'd be fine if he never mentioned the commies.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (LOgQ4)


Same here. Because, unlike the other groups he cited, the Communists, had they won, would have been coming for the other groups too, just like the Nazis.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:41 PM (rpzii)

231 191
Yeah, it's the penultimate name, which is the paternal one, that you go by when shortening it.
So Miguel Cervantes Saavedra becomes "Cervantes" or "Miguel Cervantes."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:28 PM (0jtPF)


Thanks, Margarita! I was waiting for you to weigh in on it.

Although I wonder if insisting on calling her "Cortez" might drive a wedge between her and the LaRaza types for whom Cortez was an evil white colonizer.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:41 PM (sdi6R)

232 226 Occasional Cortex and her eyes being all bugged out is a clear indication how excited she is about Socialism and how sure she is about "getting it right" this time.

She will have lots of help from the donks in trying to make that a reality.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (iiixZ)


And the notion that someone of her cognitive skills is just the one to "get it right" this time is laughable.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:42 PM (rpzii)

233 Let get this straight. Has Trump seen the redacted parts?
Posted by: JoeF.


Yes at least on that Playboy model.

/s

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 01:42 PM (YdakM)

234 Although I wonder if insisting on calling her "Cortez" might drive a wedge between her and the LaRaza types for whom Cortez was an evil white colonizer.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:41 PM (sdi6R)


Yeah, that would really Pizarro them off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:42 PM (rpzii)

235 I know, the "ö" should have an accent over it...
Comes out like a black diamond on my end.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commenter at July 22, 2018 01:37 PM


User upgrade package should be out of beta in #TwoWeeks.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (LOgQ4)

236 Let get this straight. Has Trump seen the redacted parts?
Posted by: JoeF.


Seen them? He's grabbed them by the redacted parts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (rpzii)

237 (217) Does the hologram have any new material?

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (RuIsu)

238 Drudge now has pictures of The FAB in her Mu Mu and her possible cholostemy bag

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)

239 227 Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 01:38 PM (vV/gB)

Mostly Illegal Mexicans I assume .
---------------
Maybe, but most likely legal second gen Mexs. They are the worst. First gen are remarkably humble and shy and hardworking. It takes 12 years of LA school system to ready them for America.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (vV/gB)

240 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (rpzii)

Requiring someone to make illogical arguments should not reflect badly on them if they are unable to do it.

For example, make a logical argument for $15 minimum wage.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (2DOZq)

241 ctually Niemöller said, "First they came for the Communists...". Jews were third on the list.

Yeah, my only criticism of it. I'd be fine if he never mentioned the commies.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (LOgQ4)

Yes, but he did because Bavaria actually went Commie--briefly--in 1919. That was a concern among all in the center and the right, not just the Nazis. They were Nazi's number one competitor and it makes sense that they would go after them first. Of course, to many Nazis (and others on the right), Communism was run by the Jews.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:44 PM (y8Foj)

242 "So far, 26 IL counties have declared themselves 'sanctuaries' for 2nd Amd support. 14 more considering the same. (Per Illinois Review)"

I live in one of them. Need to see how this plays out when the first court case shows up.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois Where's the Captain at July 22, 2018 01:38 PM (V8bv6)


In the big picture, we're getting screwed this year because a number of moderate Republicans including some in Dupage have flipped on gun control. Bloomberg's moms and the kids march actually, somehow, made a difference. They would be the main targets except the primaries are already past.

Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:44 PM (USf3s)

243 Headless body of Agnew, I've seen many calls already to end the "ex parte" nature of FISA proceedings - that is the target should be "represented" at least by a govt. attorney whose job it is to puncture the govt.'s case, sort of a public defender model.


Which raises another thought that has occurred for over a year now: with 1/100th this level and gravity of abuses, in previous eras, Congress would have long since convened some sort of special committee (think Church), and started on serious reforms of the process.


Now? It's no exaggeration to say the Dems have ceased to be adult, responsible, or recognizably American when it comes to these things - they're just wild-eyed, slimey partisan airheads. The GOP - well, you know.


So one wonders if out of this (hell, THESE) complex of mega-scandals, ANYTHING will result (apart from, in'shallah, criminal and political ruination of the prime suspects).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:44 PM (QDnY+)

244 For example, make a logical argument for $15 minimum wage.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (2DOZq)

That's easy.

Posted by: National Robotics Manufacturers Association at July 22, 2018 01:45 PM (wYseH)

245 Drudge now has pictures of The FAB in her Mu Mu and her possible cholostemy bag
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)

She looks absolutely horrible, like a ragamuffin old lady.
Yeah, she's running in 2020....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:45 PM (y8Foj)

246 I hope Cortez darling goes very far in her political career

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 01:45 PM (PUmDY)

247 Posted by: National Robotics Manufacturers Association at July 22, 2018 01:45 PM (wYseH)

Heh

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:45 PM (2DOZq)

248 When my family immigrated here way back when, we changed our names to
conform to Anglo usage. My Taiwanese SIL did the same. Common sense
=====

Oddly enough, a lot of Hispanics in my area (and Asians) use the old forms to ensure some kind of anonymity. Head of Household is one name, residents who could be eligible for benefits another -- but they are not lying; just using existing loopholes.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 01:46 PM (MIKMs)

249 199 225: they gerrymandered Kane county so they could dilute the redness of the area. It seems the affluent areas like Northbrook and St. Charles are all very *rainbow* until things start hitting the fan and then they circle the wagons and get all NIMBY.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 01:46 PM (DAdSz)

250 What makes the FBI-DOJ Saturday Night Doc Dump important is that it is a FBI-DOJ release, not something from the White House or the Congressional "wolves" (as one wired.com contributor calls them). The FBI-DOJ released documents can be declassified on their own merits, not as a derivative product published by allegedly partisan sources.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 01:47 PM (Pqytn)

251 219 These are Mexicans protecting their relatively low rent turf from gentrifiers. It is a big thing in California. A Jew with a coffee shop is seen as whites moving in, which raises rents forcing them further out. BTW, many Jews use Latinos to flush out blacks from marketable real estate. See LA, Brooklyn and now Chicago. Once blacks are gone the real estate can be populated with white hipsters - then its manna from heaven.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 01:38 PM (vV/gB)


The a-hole mayor of our little burg is using the hipsters to drive out the Mexicans who lived here for a century in some case, and to make our little burg chi-chi. Price out the Mexicans who live in their little barrio, redevelop, pile in the hipsters, stack 'em high and pile 'em deep, right along the beach, jack up prices like mad.

Oh, and by happy chance, the mayor happens to own a lot of property in that area. Funny, that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:47 PM (rpzii)

252
The Church does not consider illicit the use of those therapeutic means necessary to cure bodily diseases, even if a foreseeable impediment to procreation should result there from - provided such impediment is not directly intended for any motive whatsoever. - Humana Vitae

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2018 01:47 PM (vKPAL)

253 Let get this straight. Has Trump seen the redacted parts?
Posted by: JoeF.

Seen them? He's grabbed them by the redacted parts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (rpzii)

Okay. Then how come the fact that Trump knows what's in there is never considered by the MSM or the rest of the unhinged population as evidence that HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
They treat his tweets and utterances as the ravings of a madman.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:48 PM (y8Foj)

254 So one wonders if out of this (hell, THESE) complex of mega-scandals, ANYTHING will result (apart from, in'shallah, criminal and political ruination of the prime suspects).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:44 PM



Huber will come. REDACTED And then Huber will go. REDACTED Ain't noone gonna do shit REDACTED

Posted by: Agent #2 at July 22, 2018 01:48 PM (EzdLW)

255 Trump was given a got you a question in Helsinki
But what exactly gives anyone confidence about a election tampering when no crime has been proven and no one can tell you what in the election the Russians did.
A half million Mexican nationals might have voted in the US election.
Australia I have read gave Hillary 24 million dollars

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (pHfeF)

256 The a-hole mayor of our little burg is using the hipsters to drive out the Mexicans who lived here for a century in some case, and to make our little burg chi-chi. Price out the Mexicans who live in their little barrio, redevelop, pile in the hipsters, stack 'em high and pile 'em deep, right along the beach, jack up prices like mad.

Oh, and by happy chance, the mayor happens to own a lot of property in that area. Funny, that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:47 PM

Mexicans or hipsters--makes no difference to them. They both will vote Democrat.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (y8Foj)

257 224----The Devil's Advocate. A crucial management tool for avoiding stampedes and group think.

I used to test subordinates' mettle by making them make the best argument they could for the contrary position. This was especially useful when they were clearly passionate about the position they were advocating.....

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:39 PM (rpzii)
--------------------------------
Ah, yes. The Devil's Advocate. From back in the days when universities were hotbeds of rational debate and no subject was too "triggering." Y'no, the High Middle Ages.

We were once proud heirs to that legacy.
But then we got high.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (0jtPF)

258 Drudge now has pictures of The FAB in her Mu Mu and her possible cholostemy bag

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)



I thought it was Phyllis Diller at first

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (SiINZ)

259 Not sure how to navigate this one. But the redacted (substantive) parts really need to be made public, so if the FISA process was as grossly and criminally abused as it appears, there is no doubt.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM
~~~~~

Goodlatte was on with Bartiromo this AM and said he wants the redactions removed, so apparently what was obscured from us is even more incriminating against them.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 01:51 PM (Ri0Ku)

260 Oh, and by happy chance, the mayor happens to own a lot of property in that area. Funny, that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:47 PM (rpzii)

And the hipsters don't have as many kids, so their property/school taxes will be funding pet projects rather than the schools.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:51 PM (wYseH)

261 Well the Itai won

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (Ydx5u)

262 249 199 225: they gerrymandered Kane county so they could dilute the redness of the area. It seems the affluent areas like Northbrook and St. Charles are all very *rainbow* until things start hitting the fan and then they circle the wagons and get all NIMBY.
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 01:46 PM (DAdSz)

I grew up in Northbrook and it has changed. Far less conservative but maybe still some fear of Pritzker's special new super progressive tax. Of course the ILGOP will waste it's time campaigning on how it's candidates are not conservative nut trump supporters and give away so much opportunity to actually campaign against scary progressive policies.

There used to be more old money and some blue collar there to balance things (guess which part Lived in )

Posted by: Keith at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (USf3s)

263 Unless the Democrats pull some shady election tampering A.O-C will be a US Congressman at the end of the year.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (pHfeF)

264 Goodlatte was on with Bartiromo this AM and said he wants the redactions removed, so apparently what was obscured from us is even more incriminating against them.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 01:51 PM (Ri0Ku)

So Goodlatte--who has seen them--wants the redactions removed.

More evidence that the media doesn't want to see....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (y8Foj)

265 The DNC will soon replace its "For the People" slogan with a new one: "We're Not Communists We're Socialists!"

Sadly, this will poll well with voters under 40.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (BsGS1)

266 Mexicans or hipsters--makes no difference to them. They both will vote Democrat.
----------------------------------
The donations from hipsters make the Dems happier and easier to pump. They just have to threaten a half way house or low income development and viola - the campaign cash comes rolling in. You're not in Kansas anymore.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (vV/gB)

267 They treat his tweets and utterances as the ravings of a madman.
Posted by: JoeF.


It's business click bait.I bet that is something Trump admires in the current media. He may not like it but he does get it. To bad for them he is better at it.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 01:53 PM (YdakM)

268 https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/07/22/7-year-old-
chess-prodigy-cant-compete-at-world-championship
-in-tunisia-because-shes-israeli/

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 01:53 PM (tjNqg)

269 Requiring someone to make illogical arguments should not reflect badly on them if they are unable to do it.

For example, make a logical argument for $15 minimum wage.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (2DOZq)


I didn't say that they were necessarily good arguments, just give me the best arguments you can.

For $15/hr, I'd say that it would potentially accelerate the velocity of money in the economy, and help induce employers to develop their employees, because they'd be costing more, so it would be incumbent on them to derive more value from their labor.

Now I don't believe any of that for a second, but that's about the best argument I can make of the top of my heaqd, and it overlooks the fact that while it might beneft some employees, there would be more employees out of work as a consequence, so the weighted average outcome would be negative for employees overall.

In a more cynical tone, one could argue that $15/hr would really kick the automation efforts into overdrive, leading to America dominating that area worldwide.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:53 PM (rpzii)

270 Sadly, this will poll well with voters under 40.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (BsGS1)

But alot of dem don't vote

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:53 PM (Ydx5u)

271

So one wonders if out of this (hell, THESE) complex of mega-scandals, ANYTHING will result (apart from, in'shallah, criminal and political ruination of the prime suspects).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2018 01:44 PM (QDnY+)

My prescription was formed during a trip to the fictional Land of the Ideal. Unfortunately, you, me and everybody else is stuck in ItSucksToBeInRealityLand.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 01:54 PM (e1mEI)

272 261 So maybe the bells in Maranello will ring today after all

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 01:54 PM (pHfeF)

273 265 The DNC will soon replace its "For the People" slogan with a new one: "We're Not Communists We're Socialists!"

Sadly, this will poll well with voters under 40.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (BsGS1)


We're not communists or socialists! We're progressives! Keep the nomenclature straight, comrade.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:55 PM (rpzii)

274 Mean Woman Blues is a scorcher

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 01:55 PM (PUmDY)

275 he DNC will soon replace its "For the People" slogan with a new one: "We're Not Communists We're Socialists!"

Sadly, this will poll well with voters under 40.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (BsGS1)

But it will also lead some voters to Trump or the GOPe.
This is why I think the Dems--if they go hot on Socialism--are on a suicide mission.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:55 PM (y8Foj)

276 We were once proud heirs to that legacy.


But then we got high.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (0jtPF)

Case in point: one of the best classes I took at Berkeley was a literature class taught by a grad student. He started the Shakespeare section by providing pretty much every argument against the axiom that Shakespeare was the greatest playwright in history.

He taught it strictly down the middle, and only when we were done did he admit that of course Shakespeare was number 1 in his pantheon.

Oh....I looked him up recently and he is a hard-core leftist. I had no idea what his politics were because he kept them out of the classroom!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:55 PM (wYseH)

277 Drudge now has pictures of The FAB in her Mu Mu and her possible cholostemy bag
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)
~~~~~

Colostomy bag would be higher up on her abdomen. But it definitely looks like a urine bag. Most people would attach them to the inside of their thigh so as to be less noticeable in a dress, but Cankles has thunder thighs so there would be too much friction/squishing in that location.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 01:56 PM (Ri0Ku)

278 Mexicans or hipsters--makes no difference to them. They both will vote Democrat.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (y8Foj)


Au contraire, it makes a big difference to them. The Mexicans are poor, and largely apolitical.

The hipsters have money ("thanks, Dad!") and are highly political.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:56 PM (rpzii)

279 Huber will come. REDACTED And then Huber will go. REDACTED Ain't noone gonna do shit REDACTED
Posted by: Agent #2 at July 22, 2018 01:48 PM (EzdLW)


Wouldn't a Prosecutor need to be... oh... where the witnesses and such are???

Isn't Huber in Utah? vice DC?

Posted by: Don Q at July 22, 2018 01:57 PM (NgKpN)

280 The DNC will soon replace its "For the People" slogan with a new one: "We're Not Communists We're Socialists!"

Sadly, this will poll well with voters under 40.
Posted by: xnycpeasant


If they run on the "For the People" slogan I will have a "We The People MAGA" Sign in my yard

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 01:57 PM (YdakM)

281 "But it will also lead some voters to Trump or the GOPe.
This is why I think the Dems--if they go hot on Socialism--are on a suicide mission."

I tend to agree, in the short term. But we've seen how 8 years of moving the Overton window into hating America-as-founded has shifted the entire political culture. To me this seems more of the same process at work, so I'm not exactly enjoying my popcorn about this sort of thing.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 22, 2018 01:57 PM (BsGS1)

282 Drudge now has pictures of The FAB in her Mu Mu and her possible cholostemy bag
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)
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Colostomy bag would be higher up on her abdomen. But it definitely looks like a urine bag. Most people would attach them to the inside of their thigh so as to be less noticeable in a dress, but Cankles has thunder thighs so there would be too much friction/squishing in that location.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 01:56 PM (Ri0Ku)

What ever it is, she looks like hell warmed over

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:57 PM (Ydx5u)

283 But the redacted (substantive) parts really need to be made public, so if the FISA process was as grossly and criminally abused as it appears, there is no doubt.

-
During the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK did the unthinkable in revealing our evidence of missiles in Cuba thereby revealing our intelligence methods, means and capabilities. He did it because the situation demanded that the truth come out. This is another such situation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (+y/Ru)

284 For $15/hr, I'd say that it would potentially accelerate the velocity of money in the economy, and help induce employers to develop their employees, because they'd be costing more, so it would be incumbent on them to derive more value from their labor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity


I think that's true to some extent. If you could cross-train all those individuals so that they could effortlessly step into each others jobs, you might conceivably get it to work. But people who end up working for low wages aren't notorious for quickly understanding any position other then their own. Or being eager to engage their brains in such an endeavor.

Return to Square One.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (LOgQ4)

285 How can The FAB go out in public wearing a tent?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (Ydx5u)

286 And the hipsters don't have as many kids, so their property/school taxes will be funding pet projects rather than the schools.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:51 PM (wYseH)


Good point.

Now if they just start taxing man buns ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (rpzii)

287 First I came for--

No, first they came for -

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (t5m5e)

288 looks like it's molinari - an italian! and nobody's asking him to use a side door or cares if his father is a tailor. why? because he's a golfer.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (Pg+x7)

289 Au contraire, it makes a big difference to them. The Mexicans are poor, and largely apolitical.
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In IL, not poor and may be apolitical, but honestly living the dream -- especially if they have family land in Mexico and land here.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 01:59 PM (MIKMs)

290 263 Unless the Democrats pull some shady election tampering A.O-C will be a US Congressman at the end of the year.
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 01:52 PM (pHfeF)


The Democrat Party would never do a thing like that.

Posted by: Robert Torricelli at July 22, 2018 02:00 PM (sdi6R)

291 The wider public gets this. Look at gun sales.

Look at end of civilization tales like zombies and others. The Left are the walking dead.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 02:00 PM (hyuyC)

292 But it will also lead some voters to Trump or the GOPe.
This is why I think the Dems--if they go hot on Socialism--are on a suicide mission.
-------------------------
My guess is the Dem Estab has recognized they have no chance of winning the House and they know they will lose more seats in the Senate. This is all about saving the Party through hysterical hate to keep a base. It suits their purpose to fire them crazy up and then let them lose to begin the rebuilding effort. Even they can't talk sense to these people.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 02:01 PM (vV/gB)

293 I think that's true to some extent. If you could cross-train all those individuals so that they could effortlessly step into each others jobs, you might conceivably get it to work. But people who end up working for low wages aren't notorious for quickly understanding any position other then their own. Or being eager to engage their brains in such an endeavor.

Return to Square One.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 01:58 PM (LOgQ4)


I didn't say it was a good argument, still less that it's one I believe. It's just the best argument I can come up with right off the top of my head.

Bottom line: hard-core, long-term minimum wage workers (as opposed to, say, students working over the summer) are generally not the cream of the employee crop, and it is unreasonable to expect great initiative, drive, or ambition from most of them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:01 PM (rpzii)

294 I'm starting to think Alexandra Ocasia Commie is using pupil dilation because her eyes are way to big.

She's an anime character of a commie.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2018 02:01 PM (r+sAi)

295 It would be funny as heck if "someone" leaked a photo of FL Melania wearing the house coat.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2018 02:02 PM (Pqytn)

296

Colostomy bag would be higher up on her abdomen. But it definitely looks like a urine bag. Most people would attach them to the inside of their thigh so as to be less noticeable in a dress, but Cankles has thunder thighs so there would be too much friction/squishing in that location.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 01:56 PM (Ri0Ku)

Have you eliminated extremely effective concealed carry? Who would suspect a bag of poop or urine?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 02:02 PM (e1mEI)

297 Ozzfest > Ozyfest

Posted by: Hands at July 22, 2018 02:02 PM (EzdLW)

298 285 How can The FAB go out in public wearing a tent?
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Hillary ate Sally Struthers. What else can she wear?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 02:02 PM (vV/gB)

299 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 01:53 PM (rpzii)

A knowledgeable person can just repeat the opposing teams views which I'm sure they have evaluated themselves many times already. I agree having someone having to come up with a unique argument is intellectually useful or at least attempting to do so. I realize I'm sounding contrarian but not intending to.



Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 02:03 PM (2DOZq)

300 289 Au contraire, it makes a big difference to them. The Mexicans are poor, and largely apolitical.
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In IL, not poor and may be apolitical, but honestly living the dream -- especially if they have family land in Mexico and land here.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 01:59 PM (MIKMs)


Interesting. I'm thinking of the Mexicans here in our little town. They tend to live in little bungalows right near the ocean, in cheap houses built in the 1920s or so on land that is now pushing seven figures in worth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:03 PM (rpzii)

301 "what say you about such a homily? Necessary? Overreach?"

Definitely overreach. I'm a lifelong fairly traditionalist Catholic who never personally used the Pill, and I think he went way off the deep end.

In fact I don't know, personally, a single priest or religious and I know some who are pretty adamant about the contraception issue, who would go so far as to say the Pill can never be used even for purely medical reasons.

That said.... some would advise that anyone using the Pill for medical reasons still abstain from sex due to the (slight but non-zero) possibility that an ovum could get through, be fertilized but fail to implant in the womb--which apparently is a secondary effect of the classic version of the Pill. (With some current forms of hormonal contraception this may be the primary effect.)

If life begins at fertilization/conception then this mechanism of the Pill would in effect cause a very, very early abortion. Perhaps the priest in question heard about this potentially abortive effect in some kind of garbled fashion and that's why he thinks the Pill is always bad/evil?

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 02:03 PM (9WuX0)

302 Anyone want to take a guess as to how much the tent FAB is wearing costs?

I'll start the guessing at 1200 bucks. For the amount of material alone.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2018 02:03 PM (iiixZ)

303 256---Mexicans or hipsters--makes no difference to them. They both will vote Democrat.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (y8Foj)
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Is that true of Mexicans who have been there for generations? I know there are many Tex-Mex who vote conservative. Perhaps not so in Cali.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 02:03 PM (0jtPF)

304 And the hipsters don't have as many kids, so their property/school taxes will be funding pet projects rather than the schools. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2018 01:51 PM (wYseH)
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LOL recalling a rare moment of honesty at a school board meeting that the Pres of the Board and Superintendent weighed in on biiiig developments going up locally. Hoping that it was retirees and single people moving in and if not, we are all in trouble.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 22, 2018 02:04 PM (MIKMs)

305 And right on cue, Gowdy appears on Sunday to trash Trump re Helsinki. And Brett Bair-oh-so-fair is setting him up nicely for it.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 02:04 PM (Ri0Ku)

306 I am so tired of the generality 'election tampering'.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:04 PM (pHfeF)

307 Denali should be renamed Mt. McKinley. Fuck this first person naming bullshit.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 22, 2018 02:05 PM (r9UYA)

308 "Fox Theater sent ma an email about Roy Orbison hologram show. WTH?"

I heard there was going to be a Zappa one too. BTW how come nobody told me there was a BOC show in Atlanta last night? Hard to believe that it was over 40 years ago I last saw them.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 02:05 PM (UdKB7)

309 Guy Mohawk -

^^^^^

Posted by: cfo mom at July 22, 2018 02:05 PM (RfzVr)

310 Most people would attach them to the inside of their thigh so as to be less noticeable in a dress, but Cankles has thunder thighs so there would be too much friction/squishing in that location.

Posted by: IrishEi


Ugh.

Looks like I'm skipping lunch today.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 02:05 PM (2s3aR)

311 >>305
And right on cue, Gowdy appears on Sunday to trash Trump

This is what he does. He is a worthless CoC tool that can't leave fast enough. GTFO and don't come back.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 22, 2018 02:06 PM (r9UYA)

312 A knowledgeable person can just repeat the opposing teams views which I'm sure they have evaluated themselves many times already. I agree having someone having to come up with a unique argument is intellectually useful or at least attempting to do so. I realize I'm sounding contrarian but not intending to.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 02:03 PM (2DOZq)


Not to worry, you're not sounding contrarian.

The minimum wage argument is a bad example in many respects just because it has been beaten to death publicly. That makes it difficult to come up with anything new.

I was thinking more of a new proposal, made perhaps in a business or military context, that hasn't been chewed into oblivion already.

The idea is to avoid group think: one person proposes something (especially an alpha person), and everyone else nods in agreement.

A good reason also to have the most junior attendees speak first, before they know what the senior people think.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:06 PM (rpzii)

313 in denali - no longer a river in egypt.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 02:07 PM (Pg+x7)

314 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:06 PM (rpzii)

I was thinking same thing and that the exercise would have been useful in say discussing the 'Surge' .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 02:08 PM (2DOZq)

315 Phil Valentine ( radio talk) was saying Friday Mexican illegals are for the most part the darker skin portion of that population as opposed to the whiter population. And thinking of that in my experience might agree with that assessment. He said that is due to economics in Mexico and bias just as Leftists say happens here.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:09 PM (pHfeF)

316 the Drudge pic is actually from TGP

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/what-is-
she-wearing-hillary-clinton-looks-like-hell-
at-ozyfest-in-new-york-video/

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2018 02:10 PM (tjNqg)

317
All the discussions of why the left does what they do--you know the examples--are interesting but pointless speculation.

COUNTERING what they do as they do it is more to the point. And everyone here knows what that entails.

Or a whole bunch of time may be wasted and the inevitable escalation can be allowed to proceed instead of being thwarted immediately. Just like confronting ANY bully.

So which will it be?

Posted by: irongrampa at July 22, 2018 02:10 PM (S/hVx)

318 I read recently that Patti Smith wrote a couple of their songs.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:10 PM (PUmDY)

319 That looks like somebody's head is under that dress. I wonder who?

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 02:12 PM (RuIsu)

320 Well, Gowdy tried to redeem himself in the second half. But I still don't trust him.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 22, 2018 02:12 PM (Ri0Ku)

321 291 hi NaCly

We know the Left are the Walking dead but They think capitalists are

Would you believe that? I learned that in grad school 8 years ago
But I argued with them.

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 02:13 PM (84I0r)

322 @301

You very well may be right...it makes sense.

Still, I am not sure waging a war on the Pill, especially as a homily, is really the best use of your leadership.

That's just me.

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 02:13 PM (TL2pK)

323 In my career trajectory I started as a paperboy. Don't remember what the pay was back then. Next job was a warming house attendant at a lake ice rink. Next I was a gas jockey. No real skill involved in any of those jobs beyond showing up everyday on time. once I had that on my resume I started to get jobs that paid more. Then I went to school to get a better long term job.And then I said YES at that job every time the were wanted to pay me to learn something new. I'm not a rich guy today but am proud of my accomplishments an above the mean.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 02:13 PM (YdakM)

324 Hard to respect anyone who says scintilla of-evidence

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:14 PM (PUmDY)

325 "at Ozyfest in New York"

Whew, for a minute there I thought Ozyfest was some kind of Ozzy Ozbourne concert event similar to the one he had in Southern Illinois last year during the solar eclipse.... he played "Bark at the Moon" right when the eclipse went total and it was kinda awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j3kF2EexDo

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 02:15 PM (9WuX0)

326 Hard to respect anyone who says scintilla of-evidence

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


Would you say there is a plethora of evidence ?

Posted by: El Guapo at July 22, 2018 02:17 PM (2s3aR)

327 Half moon was cool last night

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:18 PM (PUmDY)

328 Cornucopia

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:18 PM (PUmDY)

329 296
Have you eliminated extremely effective concealed carry? Who would suspect a bag of poop or urine?
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2018 02:02 PM (e1mEI)


And so we circle around back to the original topic.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 02:19 PM (sdi6R)

330 I would just love to ask Gowdy what the Russians did, and just a possible hacking into the DNC server isn't quite enough for me.
What did they do if they did with the information?
Could that have been more easily done by a insider?
Isn't this done by just about every major player in the world?
Awan had complete access to the DNC computers,

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:20 PM (pHfeF)

331 Rivulets

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:20 PM (PUmDY)

332 Empire Strikes Back is on TNT, the best of all I think.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:21 PM (pHfeF)

333 I keep saying this, but one of these days they're going to pull this shit on the wrong person or persons.

And there will be a body count.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (jWe5r)

334 I was thinking same thing and that the exercise would have been useful in say discussing the 'Surge' .
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 02:08 PM (2DOZq)


Absolutely.

Also useful to establishing criteria for assessing the success of an initiative, which requires first answering the question, "What the hell are we trying to do here?"

A proper answer is not something vague ("win the war" Duh.) but rather specific and objective ("we're trying to reduce the number of terrorist incidents to below X per month," or "force AQ to cease operations in Y province," or something like that).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (rpzii)

335 Is it 4am here? Seems like it

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (pHfeF)

336 "I am not sure waging a war on the Pill, especially as a homily, is really the best use of your leadership."

I wouldn't recommend it either (that's also just me) but were I a pastor writing a homily on the topic I would encourage people to take a second look at Humanae Vitae and realize that there was WAY more to it that just "yep, birth control is still a sin." There were some, I would say prophetic, passages about what happens when 1) widespread contraception fosters a culture where casual sex is seen as an inalienable right, and 2) governments get too intrusive about telling families how many kids they should have. (Whether it's China limiting couples to only one or Ceaucescu's Romania insisting that they have at least five.)

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (9WuX0)

337 Is it 4am here? Seems like it

Posted by: Skip


The sun is out

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 02:24 PM (2s3aR)

338 333 I keep saying this, but one of these days they're going to pull this shit on the wrong person or persons.

And there will be a body count.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 22, 2018 02:23 PM (jWe5r)


And the "wrong person or persons" will be prosecuted for defending themselves.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 02:26 PM (sdi6R)

339 "Tikkum Olam" (or "repair of the world" was taken out of context from a Jewish prayer. According to this man, liberal Jews are destroying their own religion:

https://tinyurl.com/ybvmjcpr

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2018 02:26 PM (AllCR)

340 Tip your waitress

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:27 PM (PUmDY)

341 You are all invited to the
NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 02:27 PM (pHfeF)

342 I think I found the too rich person Obama was referring to in his SA speech.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y96yzuvk



Opra's $90 million mansion.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 02:29 PM (YdakM)

343 Wait, Tiger didn't win? Crushed. /s

Posted by: rammajamma at July 22, 2018 02:31 PM (xceTB)

344 Aren't people concerned about health issues with these loons playing with their poop, flinging their poop, or generally sitting in their poop, like in San Francisco? We've had many major food recalls because of E-coli contamination. Do people realize why this happens? Are we primed for a big plague outbreak? Just think of all of the flies, rats, other varmint who are supping on the human poop and delivering it elsewhere.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2018 02:31 PM (QUBWE)

345 Trump's picking October for Vlad's visit can't be an accident

Expect another kind of October Surprise.

My bet the visit is preceded by a series of reveals. A lot of people are going to look foolish, and others to be criminal traitors

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2018 02:32 PM (Ltmr8)

346 This Chris Wallace interview is a joke

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:33 PM (PUmDY)

347 345 Trump's picking October for Vlad's visit can't be an accident

Expect another kind of October Surprise.

My bet the visit is preceded by a series of reveals. A lot of people are going to look foolish, and others to be criminal traitors
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2018 02:32 PM (Ltmr


Yes. Please.

At the risk of sounding cliched, that could be the Mother Of All October Surprises.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

348 344 Aren't people concerned about health issues with these loons playing with their poop, flinging their poop, or generally sitting in their poop, like in San Francisco? We've had many major food recalls because of E-coli contamination. Do people realize why this happens? Are we primed for a big plague outbreak? Just think of all of the flies, rats, other varmint who are supping on the human poop and delivering it elsewhere.
Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2018 02:31 PM (QUBWE)

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Those of us who think? Yes, we are.

Those doing the feeling and tossing of poop? Nope.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 02:34 PM (WEBkv)

349 What the hell is the throwing poop about?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 02:38 PM (PUmDY)

350 (349) The plan requires escalation of the violence, and throwing crap is a good way to do that. They need to cause someone to retaliate.

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 02:45 PM (RuIsu)

351 Next they'll break his windows, that'll teach him.

Posted by: PG at July 22, 2018 03:04 PM (R6aEY)

352 This will backfire on the Dems. Especially if they do not come out against it.

That should be their new mantra...Dems, the Party of Fecal Matter.

Where is Obama with his "this is not who we are". Oh, right. This is what he wants us to be. I will never forget his last FU to Israel...which he also helped write. Those were his true colors. Dershowitz finally saw it then.

Sanders is an idiot. An absolute doofus. He met with Linda Sarsour for a kumbaya moment. If he knew anything he would have known she wanted to shiv him. What an idiot.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 03:59 PM (rbgPC)

353 L.A. like San Francisco is a total stink hole its city council and mayor open up the place to illegal aliens after all Joe Friday(Dragnet)new all about the City of L.A. Crime and Coruption everywhere Stay Away from L.A.

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 22, 2018 04:29 PM (FLiOE)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-22-2018

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Some Shelves From James Varney's Library (click to embiggen)


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes ('escaped oafs' is an anagram of 'Ace of Spades'). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which, even though they're ugly, at least they match.


Pic Note

You never know who's lurking on AoSHQ. James Varney sent me some library pics and permission to "out" him as a national correspondent for The Washington Times. Before he worked for the Times, he was a member of the New Orleans-based reporting team that won two Pulitzer Prizes for Hurricane Katrina coverage in 2006. You can see the Pulitzers on the right side of the third shelf, in front of the Tom Wolfe novels. He also sent me a close-up photo that you can see below the fold.

He says:

Love the feature; love the site. I'm grateful for the links J.J. has given my stories on the Morning Report

Just thought I'd pass that along.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

A ROORBACK is a false or slanderous rumour propagated for political purposes.

Usage: Room Full of Roorbacks: The White House Press Corps was an instant best-seller.

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Love Is Diverse

The NY Times is all concerned and stuff about the current lack of diversity in romance novels:

Romance novels released by big publishing houses tend to center on white characters, and rarely feature gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender people in leading roles, or heroines with disabilities. Even as the genre has evolved to reflect readers’ varied tastes and fetishes — popular subcategories include vampire and werewolf romance, military romance, cowboy romance, time travel romance, pirate and Viking romance — the lead characters are often confined to a fairly narrow set of ethnic, cultural and aesthetic types.

But the article provides some counterexamples:

Forever Yours, an imprint at Grand Central, publishes Karelia Stetz-Waters, who writes romances about lesbian couples. Uzma Jalaluddin’s debut novel, “Ayesha at Last,” takes place in a close-knit immigrant Muslim community in Canada, and features an outspoken Muslim heroine who falls for a more conservative Muslim man...Alisha Rai and Sonali Dev have expanded the genre with love stories that feature Indian and Indian-American protagonists. Priscilla Oliveras, who is published by Kensington, writes romances with Latinx heroes and heroines. Jeannie Lin has published historical romances with Harlequin that are set in China during the Tang dynasty era.

OK, fine, but I'm going to have to holler about cultural appropriation here. Didn't the whole "falling in love" thing originate in Europe during medieval times, with chivalry and "courtly love" and all that? Before that, in pretty much every culture, young women were told who they were going to marry by their fathers and family and no backtalk. And if the girl was lucky, she might get was paired off with a decent man who didn't beat her. That's what I've always understood, anyway. So all the diversity authors should all be paying some sort of royalty to medieval European culture without which their books would not be possible.

“Readers want books that reflect the world they live in, and they won’t settle for a book about a small town where every single person is white,” said Leah Koch, co-owner of the romance bookstore the Ripped Bodice in Culver City, Calif. Last year, six of her store’s top 10 best-selling novels were written by authors of color, Ms. Koch said.

Well, if that's the case, them I'm not sure what the fuss is about. If people are actually buying the new "diverse" romance novels, then it sounds like the market is indeed taking care of a hitherto unmet demand. And if there's more demand, more authors will step up to meet it. Case in point:

The best-selling romance writer Courtney Milan, who writes novels with interracial and gay couples and transgender and bisexual characters, left a Harlequin imprint around seven years ago and began self-publishing because she wanted to have more creative control over her plots and characters. She has since sold more than one million copies on her own, she said. Delaney Diamond, who started self-publishing romance novels with African-American characters in 2011, has sold around 370,000 copies of her books, and created her own imprint, Garden Avenue Press. She recently began publishing multicultural romance novels by other authors.

Good for her. Another problem solved by a person taking a bit of initiative to do some work herself rather than just sitting around crying about it.


Moron Recommendation

29 I read a book recommended here a week or two ago, Our Man In Charleston: Britain's Secret Agent in the Civil War South, by Christopher Dickey. This is the story of Robert Bunch, who was in Charleston from 1853 to 1863 as British consul for most of the time. A fierce anti-slaver, Bunch walked a tightrope, hiding his abolitionist feelings from his Southern contacts while sending back to the Foreign Office information to keep Britain pro-Union. An interesting story, and I learned much about the events leading up to the attack on Fort Sumter.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 08, 2018 09:14 AM(HLy+M)

I was struck by this bit from the Amazon blurb:

As secession and war approached, the Southern states found themselves in an impossible position. They knew that recognition from Great Britain would be essential to the survival of the Confederacy, and also that such recognition was likely to be withheld if the South reopened the Atlantic slave trade. But as Bunch meticulously noted from his perch in Charleston, secession’s red-hot epicenter, that trade was growing. And as Southern leaders continued to dissemble publicly about their intentions, Bunch sent dispatch after secret dispatch back to the Foreign Office warning of the truth—that economic survival would force the South to import slaves from Africa in massive numbers.

In the past, I had believed that slavery in the south would have eventually died out. Of course, I was assuming that no more slaves would be imported. I had no idea that the south was actively trying to expand the Atlantic slave trade. Southern sympathizers have always claimed that the Civil War was not about slavery, but rather states' rights. But I guess what they really mean is states' rights to import slaves. The CW exacted a huge toll on this country that we're still paying even today but I think the right side won. Put another way, I would rather have to deal with the seemingly never-ceasing expansion of federal power, which is the legacy of that war, than to have slavery embedded in our country as a permanent feature.

And, going back to a previous war, I have just started reading Washington's Spies: The Story of America's First Spy Ring by Alexander Rose. This is the book the AMC TV series Turn was based on. Which you should watch, by the way. Especially the concluding 4th season. Much of the book is based on recent research. I did not know, for example, that much was unclear about how the spy Nathan Hale was caught until about twenty years ago when some documents written by an eyewitness came to light. Fascinating reading.

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From the mailbag, Dan writes:

One of my favorite books is City of Saints and Madmen by Jeff Vandermeer. The star of the book is the city of Ambergris. This mythical city was cursed since its founding. City of Saints and Madmen contains four novellas with a handful of short stories, all of which are wrapped around the mystery underneath this city. The stories are remarkable. Some are creepy. Some are hilarious. I have never encountered a book like this. It somehow all fits together. The final novella is remarkable and self referencing, in a way that is jaw dropping. If you like your books a bit off-center, this is for you.

Also:

PS- I liked the first novella. But it is very dark. Even if you don't like that one, stick with it. The stories stand on their own.

Checking out VanderMeer's Amazon author's page, he's got a lot of books that look interesting, both fiction and non-fiction. For example, Wonderbook: The Illustrated Guide to Creating Imaginative Fiction, guide for fiction writers which

...takes a completely novel approach and fully exploits the visual nature of fantasy through original drawings, maps, renderings, and exercises to create a spectacularly beautiful and inspiring object. Employing an accessible, example-rich approach, Wonderbook energizes and motivates while also providing practical, nuts-and-bolts information needed to improve as a writer. Aimed at aspiring and intermediate-level writers, Wonderbook includes helpful sidebars and essays from some of the biggest names in fantasy today, such as George R. R. Martin, Lev Grossman, Neil Gaiman, Michael Moorcock, Catherynne M. Valente, and Karen Joy Fowler, to name a few.

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Books By Morons

Moron author Hans Schantz is having a $0.99 promotion that will run on his book, The Hidden Truth from midnight Friday July 20 through the end of the day Thursday July 26 (regularly $4.99).

Book Trailer Link: https://youtu.be/GIBmNfFbFjs

Blurb:

A young man uncovers subtle clues to the Cabal that changed history and seeks to control the world in this exciting alternate history hard science conspiracy techno-thriller.

I recommend watching the trailer, which is actually pretty cool.

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Moron author scrood's book, Let’s Hack Oxidative Stress, will be available for free on Kindle this weekend (July 21-22). It "provides a simple strategy to use three lifestyle choices to reduce and manage your Oxidative Stress for improved health."


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 08:59 AM (pHfeF)

2
Just finished the Californios by Louis
L'Amour. Started a re-read of the Ghost series by John Ringo.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 09:00 AM (mpXpK)

3 HOOray !

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 09:01 AM (2s3aR)

4 Corgis dutifully called
All but finished Patrick O'Brien' s 13 Gun Salute, don't have the next book. Have been reading much more, around a chapter a day for a few weeks it's just getting into the habit that is the hard part.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 09:02 AM (pHfeF)

5 so James Varney is a lurker on AOS eh.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

6 Still reading "White Tigers".

Fascinating book. On one raid into North Korea, the raiders were loading onto their junk fleet after a successful op when they realized there were more people on the beach then had arrived in the raider force, causing possible overcrowding on the boats as the NKPA was in hot pursuit.

Refugees from nearby villages, trying to escape the paradise of the North in 1952.

All worked out, but I wonder if that would happen today if things went hot in Whoa Fat's little hell hole.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 09:04 AM (EoRCO)

7 I read The Play of Death by Oliver Potzsch. This is the sixth volume in the Hangman's Daughter series. In this, the Kuisl clan goes to Oberammergau. Murders take place while the town prepares to put on its Passion play. The town has a lot to hide, and the Hangman, his daughter, and his son-in-law must unravel the mystery and solve the murders. As with all of these works, one learns about the area and its history.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 22, 2018 09:04 AM (HLy+M)

8 The NY Times is all concerned and stuff about the current lack of diversity in romance novels:

Those snotty piles of shit formerly considered themselves too highbrow to care about that genre. Is this proof positive that Beaner Slim has sent that rag completely in the toilet by their standards?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 09:07 AM (y7DUB)

9 I just started a novel, The Crossing, by Winston Churchill.

Published in 1904 it seemed plausible that it was our Winston Churchill and I was wondering how after reading several biographies of Winnie I could have failed to note that he was a novelist. It didn't seem out of the question, though, polymath that he was.

Anyway, it isn't. It's an American author of the same name and vintange.

It's fun so far. We're in the Blue Ridge Mountains in the gathering storm before the Revolution. So far we've met Daniel Boone and young Andrew Jackson, who is the same schoolboy age as our narrator.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 09:07 AM (fuK7c)

10 Just a hundred pages into a one volume A Short History of Byzantium (Norwich).

If you like your history packed full of action this is a fine read, though with the rapid travel through a thousand years of history it can be a little hard to get a fix on the characters driving the story.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 22, 2018 09:08 AM (Ogr1j)

11 In the past, I had believed that slavery in the south would have
eventually died out. Of course, I was assuming that no more slaves would
be imported. I had no idea that the south was actively trying to expand
the Atlantic slave trade. Southern sympathizers have always claimed
that the Civil War was not about slavery, but rather states' rights. But
I guess what they really mean is states' rights to import slaves.




The confederate consitution actually forbid the importation of slaves from Africa, or anywhere else outside of the US.


Article I Section 9(1)


The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign
country, other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United
States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to
pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same



And I hate to get into this subject because it always leads to a flame war.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

12
Just got a great idea for a song but need help. What rhymes with 'duck boat'?

Posted by: Gorden Lightfoot at July 22, 2018 09:08 AM (LOgQ4)

13 Didn't the whole "falling in love" thing originate in Europe during medieval times, with chivalry and "courtly love" and all that? Before that, in pretty much every culture, young women were told who they were going to marry by their fathers and family and no backtalk. And if the girl was lucky, she might get was paired off with a decent man who didn't beat her. That's what I've always understood, anyway.

Uh, no. That's not what courtly love did.

The sentiment has always been around. (Ovid, Dido, The Song of Songs). What was new was the belief that it was an unmixed good, in fact, the highest natural good for human beans. (By the 19th C, at least, it became identified as a spiritual good, and by now, the highest or only one.) Previously it was regarded more rationally as a kind of dementia.

And it the arrangement of marriages was in itself part of the core of the courtly idea. Your beloved was assumed to be married to someone else, until maybe the 15th C. Note that arranged marriages did not die out among those who bought into the idea. Hell, it's only in my lifetime that the practice, of asking a girl's father for her hand in marriage died out.

Don't believe the crap they sell you in school or in the culture. Especially when it' sold, not overtly, but by implication.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:09 AM (59GGI)

14 All of my roorbacks are kept in Uncle George's secret vault.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at July 22, 2018 09:09 AM (Tyii7)

15 Oh, and in 13 Gun Salute Inaccessible Island is easily found on Google map, False Natuna is in a group of islands between Indonesia and Malaysia

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 09:10 AM (pHfeF)

16 9
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 09:07 AM (fuK7c)

IIRC, it was because of the American author that the famous Churchill always published under Winston S Churchill.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:11 AM (59GGI)

17 Often wonder if the famous lurk here,

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 09:11 AM (pHfeF)

18 Hey Vern.

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 09:12 AM (RuIsu)

19 Dear New York Times, stuff your racist check box checklist. May your next order of calamari take-out be a gift from Cthulhu.

Is the story good? Are the characters interesting? If yes then the story will do well.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:12 AM (deXW1)

20 "the Ripped Bodice"

sounds... problematic

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at July 22, 2018 09:15 AM (RKQ/v)

21 Thanks for the book thread, OM.

Interesting bit about Southern secession. I have read that there were thoughts of expanding the CSA down to Cuba and beyond. Some former CSA soldiers did end up fighting in South American kerfluffles, didn't they? Wonder if they would have taken over more territory if they had won.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:16 AM (gUCYC)

22 Hell, it's only in my lifetime that the practice, of asking a girl's father for her hand in marriage died out.

My son in law from India asked for my permission to marry my daughter. Unfortunately he did in front of the other goofballs in the family which fucked up the whole dynamic of the situation and I let him know it. But I always liked him so it was a sure thing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 09:18 AM (y7DUB)

23 Romance novels about gays, lesbians and trans?
No thanks. I like to read stories that are relatable.

Posted by: JAS at July 22, 2018 09:19 AM (3HNOQ)

24 Oh yeah before I forget two short stories are free to download on Amazon.

Pinch of Larceny and Yuriko: A Real Girl.

Right now debating going back to bed since got to work later today.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:20 AM (deXW1)

25 No thanks. I like to read stories that are relatable.



Posted by: JAS


When cousins marry ?

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 09:20 AM (2s3aR)

26 Is there any institution that has done more damage to civilization than the NYT?

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (RuIsu)

27 Just got a great idea for a song but need help. What rhymes with 'duck boat'?

Hmmmmm......that's a poser.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (2s3aR)

28 Finished re-reading Brian Lumley's Necroscope 2: Vamphri!. Now moving re-reading book 3, The Source.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (p0nVR)

29 You know, this week I didn't read anything new unless you count online. And no books there. Rotten headaches. So I just picked up old favorites. The most serious being Lewis and Orwell, as usual.

Well, I did start Eliot's After Strange Gods last night. But I actually read that back in the early 70s, in college. Did find a bridge book I'd been missing for months.

Do others have that problem? I often am unable to find a book for months or even years, though I know I have it. It can be frustrating. I have a friend who is so insane he will end up buying 5 copies, just because he can't find one when he wants one. He'll even buy an extra when he's not in the mood for it, because he figures it'll be easier to find when he is. But, as squirrel said to moose, "That trick never works."

Bad as I am, I'm not quite at that level. The toughest is when my wife wants me to find one of hers. She has limited mobility, so I have to search the boxes.


Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (59GGI)

30 I am reading "Letters to Jackie: Condolences from a Grieving Nation". It's full of letters from random Americans to the former first lady about their sorrow about the JFK assassination. One letter was extraordinary: after he expressed his sorrow to Jackie, one man said he had now lived to see 4(!) presidential assassinations as he had been born on November 22, 1864. *Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and now Kennedy. Wow.

Posted by: jmel at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (OeWgo)

31 Is there any institution that has done more damage to civilization than the NYT?
Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (RuIsu)

Umm Islam?

I denounce myself

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 22, 2018 09:22 AM (R+1Bq)

32 When cousins marry ?
Sure, depending upon the State.

Posted by: JAS at July 22, 2018 09:22 AM (3HNOQ)

33 After watching “Mountains of the Moon” I thought it right to peruse my 1864 edition of Speke’s Journal of the Discovery of the Source of the Nile. It comes with a map which, apart from the coast and the Nile, is almost all a blank. Living in the era of airplanes and satellites, it is hard to conceive of not knowing the lay of the land.

The book begins with some genteel 19th century Concern Racism. Speke thought the depressed circumstance of many Africans proved Scripture regarding Ham being cursed by his father and condemned to be a slave of Shem and Japheth (different from Burton who went native at the drop of a veil and found much to admire). He hastens to assure the reader that they are just as clever as their Asian and European brethren if given the chance.

“One thing that tends to disorganize the country, and that is war, caused, in the first instance, by polygamy, producing a family of half-brothers who, all aspiring to succeed their father, fight continually with each other, and make their chief aim slaves and cattle; while in the second instance, slavery keeps them ever fighting and reducing their numbers.” Interestingly, the female explorer Mary Kingsley thought polygamy was an unfortunate necessity in Africa because there was too much work for one woman in a household to take care of.

I remember reading that Viking polygamy also produced warring brothers fighting over the family spoils, and a lot of the feuding caused them to off a-viking in search of booty.

The chiefs also levied all manner of “taxes” on land, cattle, beer, and anything brought into the country by traders. “This right is called Hondo. Another source of revenue is in the effects of all people condemned for sorcery, who are either burnt, or speared and cast into the jungle, and their property seized by the graybeards for their chiefs.” Just like the witch trials!

I also have a couple “Stanley in Africa” tomes, but I’ll leave that for another day. Now, “Stan Lee in Africa” I would dust off immediately.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:22 AM (gUCYC)

34 James Varney? The Hey Vern guy?

Posted by: Doomed at July 22, 2018 09:23 AM (MW01U)

35 Thanks, OregonMuse for the shout out to my $0.99 sale on The Hidden Truth.

Just finished Peter Grant's excellent military scifi "The Pride of the Damned," book 3 of his Cochrane's Company Trilogy. I've loaded up John C. Wright's "Superluminal: The World Armada" in case the next few days with my Webelos at scout camp leave me any time or energy for reading.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at July 22, 2018 09:23 AM (1pQvR)

36 Right now debating going back to bed since got to work later today.


Posted by: Anna Puma


Did you get a promotion ?

If so, congrats !

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 09:23 AM (2s3aR)

37 Eris, Lee and Kirby Explore Afrika would probably compete nicely against Ripley. Believe it or not.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:24 AM (deXW1)

38 And I hate to get into this subject because it always leads to a flame war."

Indeed. So many have been taught so much that is wrong...

Oh, and morning, y'all!

*searches for more coffffeve*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 22, 2018 09:26 AM (6qErC)

39 "it was because of the American author that the famous Churchill always published under Winston S Churchill."

Yes, because at first the American Churchill was better known than the British Churchill. They met in person at least once, in 1903 in Boston, and it was an event that got substantial press coverage.

If you like "The Crossing" you might want to look into the historical novels Churchill published prior to it: "Richard Carvel" (1899), also set during the American Revolution but with a lot more derring-do and sea action, and "The Crisis" (1901), set during the run-up to the Civil War in St. Louis (where the author was born and raised). I would recommend that if you want good paperback copies of these books you buy them here:

www.monroestpress.com

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 09:29 AM (9WuX0)

40 With apologies to Vic,

the fisa application release (which you should read by the way) has blown up all the previous we're all FBI patriots eleventy!!! nonsense.


There's no question they committed fraud on the fisa court. At least 4 times.

Take the time to read it yourself.


I particularly like the two signatures on the first application.

Priceless.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 22, 2018 09:29 AM (R+1Bq)

41 A ROORBACK is a false or slanderous rumor propagated for political purposes.

*******

Comeuppance - a limerick

A false malicious rumor spreads real fast
And starting one will show you have no class
But when it comes to slander
Sauce for goose is sauce for gander
It will Roorback 'round and bite you on the ass

Posted by: Muldoon at July 22, 2018 09:30 AM (m45I2)

42 Good morning. Thanks to Prime Day, I got the audiobook for _Conquistadors_ by Roger Crowley. I'm still listening to it, but my main verdict is: thus far it seems less cohesive than _Empires of the Sea_.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 22, 2018 09:30 AM (p0Qbt)

43 Eris, Lee and Kirby Explore Afrika would probably compete nicely against Ripley. Believe it or not.
----

I'd read it! Especially the part about travels in Wakanda.

In the Speke book he often referred to the Waganda tribe. I wonder if that begat Wakanda?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:30 AM (gUCYC)

44 Russian stacking dolls on Varney's shelves!
Is it Kissinger? and Clinton?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 09:32 AM (hMwEB)

45 I just finished "Chthon" by Piers Anthony. I'm sorry to say I disliked nearly every character, the story, basically even the writing style. I think the intent was for the characters to be unlikable and I could of appreciated that. But their development was disjointed as the author interweaves the main character's (Anton) prison experience with flash backs/forwards to other times. So you feel, "hey, this guy is a dumb jerk", long before you're shown why he's a dumb jerk.

Basically, it's about a guy's interaction with an alien chick from a planet where the females of the species can only be cared for by hating and abusing them. Loving them will actually harm them until they turn sick and die. This weirdness is allowed because the females are psychic and respond to your emotions. The rest could of probably been laid out in a short story but the flash backs broke up the flow enough that it expanded to the size of a small novel.

This was the first Piers Anthony novel I've read I think. His writing style that I didn't like involved throwing shocking things in randomly, I guess to keep the reader interested. It didn't feel shocking, rather it left me not caring what would happen next.

Posted by: bananadream at July 22, 2018 09:32 AM (YR7aL)

46 BTW, I would not trust Christopher Dickey. He was in at least one of my college classes, and he was simply the sort of person who fits everything into a prefab framework. The only way he was likely to broaden his mind was by laying his head on a railroad track.

Of course, that was long, long ago. But I doubt he's worth the effort. Some people can read up on a subject without the slightest revision of the ideas already in their heads. ALL evidence is so processed as to fit their existing beliefs and expectations.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:34 AM (59GGI)

47 re lack of diversity in romance novels:

article linked at instapundit - "woman decides to become a man, now she's accused of 'mansplain' and 'male heterosexual privilege'.

things get complex.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 09:34 AM (Pg+x7)

48 Do others have that problem? I often am unable to find a book for months or even years, though I know I have it. It can be frustrating.
Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:21 AM (59GGI)


That, but also of the books that I can find, which one has the bit that I'm trying to cite? And if I can find the book, against all odds - or at least narrow it down - where exactly in the book is it? Is it even in one of these books, or is it in one of the ones I can't find? Why is it eight hours later and I'm still on my floor reading something completely different because another book caught my eye and I forgot what I was trying to cite in the first place, and also forgot to eat today?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 09:35 AM (y87Qq)

49 Good Sunday morning, horde! Nice library, Mr. Varney, and thanks for hanging out with us.

See, you guys? This is why we wear pants for the book thread.

Posted by: April at July 22, 2018 09:37 AM (e8PP1)

50 I would recommend that if you want good paperback copies of these books you buy them here:


Thank you for all the knowledge.

I'm reading it on Kindle because I've become a complete free books slut. Yesterday I typed in "free books classic literature" and scrolled through the first 1100 entries, downloading about eleven of them.

It takes some of the obligations of completionism away. One of the books is W.E.B DuBois. I've never read him. Would I go to the library and check out a hard cover? Would I order a paperback online because it's cheap? No, it would take up space and I'd have to make a plan to have it with me.

But for free and taking up no space? Sure. Sometime in the next six months I'll get curious and see what he was up to.

There is so much good stuff out there for free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 09:37 AM (fuK7c)

51 "One letter was extraordinary: after he expressed his sorrow to Jackie, one man said he had now lived to see 4(!) presidential assassinations as he had been born on November 22, 1864."

Another indication of just how "recent" the (first?) Civil War was: in 1956, one of the guests on "I've Got a Secret" was a 95-year-old man from Maryland who was the last living witness to Lincoln's assassination. He was 5 years old when his mom took him to Ford's Theatre. It still blows my mind that a dude who was born during the Civil War lived (just barely, he died a couple months later) long enough to appear on national television!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPoymt3Jx4




Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 09:39 AM (9WuX0)

52 No word if the promotion is official yet, probably should go ask again. But if I am having to explain how a department runs to someone from another department who really doesn't want to be there but needs the hours then I should get a raise.

Eris I would bet so. But how Lee would explain it - Stan yelling, :Excelsior! Waganda!" And Kirby on the side pays the letterer a beer to change it to Wakanda.

I actually had a name for something planned out in a story, told college roommate who then told me someone else already stole that name, so had to change things.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:39 AM (deXW1)

53 I remember reading that Viking polygamy also produced warring brothers fighting over the family spoils, and a lot of the feuding caused them to off a-viking in search of booty.
...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:22 AM (gUCYC)


Something which never occurred to me: Given their attitudes toward avenging the death of a brother, would that mean that the full-brothers would have to kill the half-brother?

There was a Maverick episode which always reminded me of the Vikings. It constantly repeats that the Code of the West includes "If a fella kills a fella's brother, that fella has to kill the fella that killed his brother." Throughout, Brett and Bart think someone has killed the other.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:41 AM (59GGI)

54 Good morning.

Roorback is the name of Sepultura's ninth album and the exact moment when I gave up on them. It was just such a forgettable album. Like you would listen to a song and almost immediately forget it.

Good news is that their latest album, Machine Messiah, is pretty bad ass.

Posted by: Robert at July 22, 2018 09:41 AM (Zogyx)

55 Good Morning. I'm usually hustling a big tanker full of the Chemical De Jour on Sundays but not today. My birthday is Tomorrow and I get a few days off. Going to look at Lakefront property on lake Hartwell Wednesday and last week Amy Lynn #1 was released on audiobook. Also, just finished chapter 6 in Amy Lynn #6, tentatively titled, Rock Star. Hows everyone else doing?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 09:42 AM (T6C20)

56 48
That, but also of the books that I can find, which one has the bit that I'm trying to cite? And if I can find the book, against all odds - or at least narrow it down - where exactly in the book is it? Is it even in one of these books, or is it in one of the ones I can't find? Why is it eight hours later and I'm still on my floor reading something completely different because another book caught my eye and I forgot what I was trying to cite in the first place, and also forgot to eat today?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 09:35 AM (y87Qq)


Happens a lot. Most often with Chesterton. Which is appropriate, as that behavior was absolutely typical of GKC.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 09:43 AM (59GGI)

57 has blown up all the previous we're all FBI patriots eleventy!!! nonsense. "

Yeah, it's worth pointing and laughing at the various twatwaffles.

Lots of stuttering and "uuuuhhhhmmmms" on the alphabet networks this AM.

Memory hole in 3...2...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 22, 2018 09:44 AM (6qErC)

58 *waves to OSP*

Amy Lynn gonna rock the Casbah and drop a bomb between the minarets?

Happy Birthday! And good luck with everything.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:44 AM (deXW1)

59 ...the Ripped Bodice sounds problematic


********


Flauntage - a limerick

The young ingenue was quite modest
But she soon went from unknown to goddess
So how'd she change her status?
She exposed her apparatus
With a strategically-placed rip in her bodice!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 22, 2018 09:45 AM (m45I2)

60 Happy Birthday! And good luck with everything.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:44 AM (deXW1)


Thanks AP, How's your career progressing?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 09:45 AM (T6C20)

61 His writing style that I didn't like involved throwing shocking things in randomly, I guess to keep the reader interested. It didn't feel shocking, rather it left me not caring what would happen next.
Posted by: bananadream at July 22, 2018 09:32 AM (YR7aL)

===

I feel the same about the author of The World According to Garp and Hotel New Hampshire.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2018 09:46 AM (JvZF+)

62 What rhymes with 'duck boat'?

==

luck coat
(like good luck coat)

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 09:46 AM (hMwEB)

63 As far as what I'm reading I'm still enjoying The Night Circus and am glad that my prior comments produced feedback and interest by others. I'm kind of surprised, other than Whoreyweird is as dense as a neutron star (hat tip to whoever here I snagged that from), that with CGI being as prevalent as it has become that nobody's brought this to the big screen (maybe they have WTFDIK). The characters are all delightfully vivid and quirky and it could really work for an audience famished for something better than recycled shit sammiches.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 09:46 AM (y7DUB)

64 can't read a lot of the titles, but I love the figurines on the shelves, the little dogs and the gaggle of geese.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 09:47 AM (hMwEB)

65 Funny Sci-Fi Hard Luck Hank series and Rex Nihilo Space Grifters both very funny books. I will say the Hard Luck Hank Audiobook is the best since it's done as Hank reading his own book.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 22, 2018 09:47 AM (dKiJG)

66 Love the pic of Mr. Varney's library - especially the many Wodehouse books! A man after my own heart.

There is one book, however, that is conspicuous by its absence. I'm sure it's in the kitchen *cough*.

Posted by: bluebell at July 22, 2018 09:48 AM (JJZzu)

67 famished for something better than recycled shit sammiches.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 09:46 AM (y7DUB)

You got one?

Posted by: Robert is feeling peckish at July 22, 2018 09:49 AM (Zogyx)

68 'Morning, readers.

Stupid question: What differentiates a fantasy from "regular" fiction?

Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (cOHsM)

69 OSP, it's Wal-Mart so it goes as it wants.

Uh oh Mr. Varney better proffer proper proof or Bluebell might get problematic and punctuate a personage.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (deXW1)

70 Just got a great idea for a song but need help. What rhymes with 'duck boat'?
Posted by: Gorden Lightfoot

Fvck hope, or is that too dark?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (+y/Ru)

71 Eris, if you want your African exploration in novel form there's T. Coraghessan Boyle's "World's End".

It goes back and forth in time between our current day protagonist and his Dutch ancestor who went mucking about in unexplored Africa with the Scottish explorer Mungo Parks.

I thought Mungo Parks had to be a made up name, but it turns out he was a real explorer.

It was the first Boyle book I read and so I fell in love with him but that also means it was a long time ago and what I've told you is about what I remember.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (fuK7c)

72 21 Thanks for the book thread, OM.

Interesting bit about Southern secession. I have read that there were thoughts of expanding the CSA down to Cuba and beyond. Some former CSA soldiers did end up fighting in South American kerfluffles, didn't they? Wonder if they would have taken over more territory if they had won.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:16 AM (gUCYC)

There were Confederate plans to colonize the Caribbean and Central America, but they had other, more pressing matters, to be concerned about. Like fighting a war.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 09:51 AM (Izzlo)

73 "Just got a great idea for a song but need help. What rhymes with 'duck boat'?"

I dunno that you need any word to rhyme with that, since none of the words to "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" rhyme with "Edmund Fitzgerald".

Speaking of which, years ago the producers of the Canadian TV show "Due South" wanted to use "Edmund Fitzgerald" in one of their episodes. Lightfoot said they could, provided they ALSO got permission from the families of all 29 victims of the sinking. The producers then decided it would be easier to just write their own song about a fictitious shipwreck, and the result was titled "32 Down on the Robert Mackenzie".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d-t0959C3A

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 09:51 AM (9WuX0)

74 "Just got a great idea for a song but need help. What rhymes with 'duck boat'?"

Cuck Float.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 09:52 AM (T6C20)

75 The NY Times is all concerned and stuff about the current lack of diversity in romance novels:

And then they went on to describe just where these books can be found, and how successful their authors are, blahblahblah.

So, instead of just writing an informative article about a niche genre, they have to preface it with a good dose of victimhood.

Posted by: April at July 22, 2018 09:52 AM (e8PP1)

76 This was the first Piers Anthony novel I've read I think. His writing style that I didn't like involved throwing shocking things in randomly, I guess to keep the reader interested. It didn't feel shocking, rather it left me not caring what would happen next.
Posted by: bananadream at July 22, 2018 09:32 AM (YR7aL)

I liked his Xanth books as a kid, because of all the puns.
as I got older either his books got pervier or I outgrew them

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 09:53 AM (hMwEB)

77 Amazon has a sample of VanderMeer's illustrated fantasy-writing guide, chock-a-block with weirdities to unlock the left side of the brain (is that still a thing?).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:53 AM (gUCYC)

78 So the docs released this AM or yesterday about carter page show PDT was framed by Fredo , the FAB, and State.

Fire mueller now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 09:53 AM (Ydx5u)

79 Good morning to you too, NGU!

Posted by: bluebell at July 22, 2018 09:54 AM (JJZzu)

80 That was the biggest problem with the Xanth books, the later ones were nothing but Trabants full of puns. Incarnations of Immortality were a bit off and then jumped the shark with And Eternity.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:55 AM (deXW1)

81 Just finished up "The Gone World" by Tom Sweterlitsch. It's a combination detective/sci-fi novel. There are some pretty gruesome scenes and a very interesting lead character. She's a female NCIS agent with an above-the-knee prosthesis, written by a male with both legs so probably considered verboten. To make up for it he somewhat gratuitously tosses in sovereign citizens/militias/nazi trophy sellers as the bad guys.

Overall a page-turner with one great character, 3/5 stars.

Posted by: motionview at July 22, 2018 09:55 AM (pYQR/)

82 Based on a recommendation here, I am reading the Bo Tully comedy mystery novels of Patrick McManus. I've finished The Blight Way and have nearly finished Avalanche. Altought they are legitimate mysteries, the real fun is in the humor. I'm quite enjoying them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 09:56 AM (+y/Ru)

83 Deeply alarmed at President Trumps attacks on NATO and the transatlantic relationship, European governments are rethinking their reliance on the United States as a strategic ally against Russia, but they are unlikely to make regional security arrangements independent of Washington.

LMAO

And? And? what and who are they going to use for defense? Knives to fight the russians and chicoms? Oh wait London is confiscating all knives.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 09:56 AM (Ydx5u)

84 Still reading "Inchon: MacArthur's Last Triumph" by Michael Langley. The invasion is just about to begin (no spoilers, please!)

While in Barnes & Noble yesterday, I picked up "Dunkirk: Retreat to Victory" by Julian Thompson. It felt good to just browse around a bookstore and find something interesting for a bargain price.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 09:56 AM (Izzlo)

85 Stupid question: What differentiates a fantasy from "regular" fiction?
Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (cOHsM)


Stupid answer, but I'd say a "fantasy" novel would be set in an implausible world with different rules from ours, while a "regular" novel would be set in a world that you'd recognize and wouldn't be out of place if the story happened the next town over from you.

Is that kind of what you were looking for?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 09:57 AM (y87Qq)

86 Russia turns off the pipelines in October to Europe. And Berlin falls within a week.

And the Leftists in the US want to the US to remain beholden to foreign suppliers of energy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 09:58 AM (deXW1)

87 I guess I've become more open minded. Despite their diversity / inclusion SJW nonsense, I shall buy no fewer romance novels than I do now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 09:58 AM (+y/Ru)

88 51 "One letter was extraordinary: after he expressed his sorrow to Jackie, one man said he had now lived to see 4(!) presidential assassinations as he had been born on November 22, 1864."

Another indication of just how "recent" the (first?) Civil War was: in 1956, one of the guests on "I've Got a Secret" was a 95-year-old man from Maryland who was the last living witness to Lincoln's assassination. He was 5 years old when his mom took him to Ford's Theatre. It still blows my mind that a dude who was born during the Civil War lived (just barely, he died a couple months later) long enough to appear on national television!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPoymt3Jx4




Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 09:39 AM (9WuX0)

I remember how my Grandmother talked about how she grew up in Ireland 1902 with dirt floors wood stoves and no electricity. Contrast with how my Grandpa grew up in the US He had some electricity and plumbing.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 22, 2018 09:58 AM (dKiJG)

89 The NYT was getting itself in a later about nothing. There has always been a market for gay and minority romance and that market has been met for years with small niche publishers. Their bewailing the lack of big publishers printing these books is mere Kabuki theater, especially now that self publishing is available - and their own piece indicates that it is successful!

Posted by: Dr Alice at July 22, 2018 09:59 AM (LaT54)

90 Something which never occurred to me: Given their attitudes toward avenging the death of a brother, would that mean that the full-brothers would have to kill the half-brother?

I actually wrote my masters thesis partly on that very subject, albeit about the early English rather than the Norse. The English were very closely related to the Norse, to the point that Norse stories are often used as evidence for how Anglo-Saxon culture worked. Short answer is that, given the limited evidence available, things weren't all that well defined, and when it came to close relatives fighting each other loyalties tended to be decided by things other then a strict accounting for blood relationship.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 22, 2018 09:59 AM (bZ7mE)

91 Stupid question: What differentiates a fantasy from "regular" fiction?
Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (cOHsM)
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Worldbuilding?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 09:59 AM (gUCYC)

92 Nice eclectic collection of books there, Mr. Varney, but I see a set of Russian nesting dolls on the shelf. Mr. Mueller will be notified of your collusion at once.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 09:59 AM (Izzlo)

93 Deeply alarmed at President Trumps attacks on NATO and the transatlantic relationship, European governments are rethinking their reliance on the United States as a strategic ally against Russia, but they are unlikely to make regional security arrangements independent of Washington.

-
Ahh, the Butthurt Option.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 10:00 AM (+y/Ru)

94 What rhymes with duck boat?


*****

Why? What have you heard? No really, I was just helping him get over the fence when my zipper came undone, totally by accident. We're just friends, it's nothing serious. A million-to-one shot, doc!

Posted by: Achmed the goat lovemaker at July 22, 2018 10:01 AM (m45I2)

95 There is a whole gaming and literature world of Weird WWII, werewolves, zombies, small rodents controlling artillery shells.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 10:02 AM (pHfeF)

96 Eris, good one-word answer. Thank you.

Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 10:02 AM (cOHsM)

97
I actually wrote my masters thesis partly on that very subject,

==

omg, what are the odds of that?
the Horde is really amazing

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 10:02 AM (hMwEB)

98 In sadder news, L.A. Times food critic Jonathan Gold has passed away. I can highly recommend his collection of columns, "Counter Intelligence: Where to Eat in the Real Los Angeles" if you ever come across it. It was published nearly 20 years ago and some of the restaurants are no longer around, but these are no ordinary food reviews. The man wrote incredibly well. It is just fun to read.

Posted by: Dr Alice at July 22, 2018 10:03 AM (LaT54)

99 Not weird enough, the US in WWII tried to develop a smart bomb guided by a pigeon. Then there were the incendiary bats to burn Japan to the ground.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:03 AM (deXW1)

100
Stupid question: What differentiates a fantasy from "regular" fiction?
Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (cOHsM)

In regular fiction, the average female cup size is a C.

In fantasy they're all DDs or larger.

Posted by: Robert at July 22, 2018 10:04 AM (Zogyx)

101 Robert, and the chain-mail bikinis are feasible.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:04 AM (deXW1)

102 Russia turns off the pipelines in October to Europe. And Berlin falls within a week.

=

1. ...Germany invades Norway and Holland
2. Blockades Great Britain
3. Takes over North Sea oil production and Royal Dutch Petrol
4. Profit

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 10:06 AM (bUjCl)

103 94 What rhymes with duck boat?
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Don't float?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 10:06 AM (vV/gB)

104 Read a few books recently:

Castles of Steel covers the British and German naval conflict during WWI. Unsurprisingly, Wilson's complaints about Americans killed by Germans sinking British vessels was so incoherent that William Jennings Bryant, his Secretary of State, resigned. Bryant really wanted to stay out of the war and took the line of if you travel to a war zone, do so at your own risk. Also, both England and Germany violated the rules of sea warfare whenever it suited them. It's a good read.

Crucible of War is about the Seven Years War in the US. Very detailed and not a quick read, but very interesting. The British didn't understand the colonists at all.

Atlanta 1864 about Sherman's campaign to capture Atlanta. Good overview of the campaign. The author's conclusions about the various personalities involved though are highly suspect.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 22, 2018 10:06 AM (J70i0)

105 I've been trying to read how to manuals on small businesses

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 10:07 AM (hMwEB)

106 Not weird enough, the US in WWII tried to develop a smart bomb guided by a pigeon. Then there were the incendiary bats to burn Japan to the ground.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:03 AM (deXW1)


The British developed a nuclear land mine during the Cold War that was chicken-powered, kind of.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3588465.stm

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 10:08 AM (y87Qq)

107 What rhymes with duck boat?

=


Deep Throat

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 10:08 AM (bUjCl)

108 Thanks OregonMuse for the work you do to put on such a nice book thread!

Willowed from a thread a couple of days ago - a book worth reading:

Fenelon - I wanted to tell you I read that book "Everything happens for a reason and other lies" by Kate Bowler. Excellent book - devoured it in an afternoon. The appendix -what not to say to a cancer sufferer, is great advice for anyone dealing with a personal disappointment or tragedy.

Thanks for the recommendation!

Posted by: Jade Sea at July 22, 2018 10:08 AM (0sWXw)

109 The British developed a nuclear land mine during the Cold War that was chicken-powered, kind of.

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Still an improvement over much British cuisine.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:09 AM (Izzlo)

110 Anna Puma, I had to see if "Trabant" was an obscure measure word as well as a car -- alas, it's not. I wanted "trabant" to be my new "hogshead" or "jeroboam".

But I did find this gem:

https://jalopnik.com/the-trabant-is-the-best-commie-car-made-of-cotton-weve-1788844883

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 10:09 AM (gUCYC)

111 Overall a page-turner with one great character, 3/5 stars.


*******


I have been reliably informed that in our inflated "turn-it-up-to-eleventy" universe a 3/5 star rating is a veritable kiss of death for an author.

Posted by: Achmed the goat lovemaker at July 22, 2018 10:10 AM (m45I2)

112 >>99 the US in WWII tried to develop a smart bomb guided by a pigeon. Then
there were the incendiary bats to burn Japan to the ground.

The Romans would set fatted pigs on fire point them at the target, usually a war elephant, and off they'd go like an early hell fire missile.

Posted by: bananadream at July 22, 2018 10:10 AM (YR7aL)

113 /sock

Posted by: Muldoon at July 22, 2018 10:11 AM (m45I2)

114 I rate Achmed 1.5 stars out of 5.

Posted by: The goat at July 22, 2018 10:11 AM (m45I2)

115
I have been reliably informed that in our inflated "turn-it-up-to-eleventy" universe a 3/5 star rating is a veritable kiss of death for an author.
Posted by: Achmed the goat lovemaker at July 22, 2018 10:10 AM (m45I

Amazon counts 3 stars as a critical review

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 10:11 AM (hMwEB)

116 Also if you want to hear a great interview of the author, who is still living despite stage IV colon cancer, Alan Alda (*Ducks* - I know! I know!) has one on his podcast. Kate is humorous and articulate. I enjoyed hearing the voice of the author to complement the book.

Podcast is called Clear & Vivid.

Posted by: Jade Sea at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (0sWXw)

117 Read a few books recently:

Castles of Steel covers the British and German naval conflict during WWI. Unsurprisingly, Wilson's complaints about Americans killed by Germans sinking British vessels was so incoherent that William Jennings Bryant, his Secretary of State, resigned. Bryant really wanted to stay out of the war and took the line of if you travel to a war zone, do so at your own risk. Also, both England and Germany violated the rules of sea warfare whenever it suited them. It's a good read.

.......
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 22, 2018 10:06 AM (J70i0)


Same author, Robert K Massie, covered this same territory in Dreadnought. I read that one, and have had Castles of Steel on my shelf for some years now, without cracking it.

I always wondered what was different about the second work, that it needed to be retold, because Dreadnought covers the subject quite thoroughly.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (cY3LT)

118 My personal favourite is the Soviet anti-tank dogs. The Sovs trained dogs to seek out armor while wearing a satchel charge. Alas the Great Rus trained the dogs on the noises and smells of their own tanks... so the Great Canine God of Karma had the last laugh.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (deXW1)

119 Ahh, the Butthurt Option.
---

That was my favorite Trevanian novel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (gUCYC)

120 Dress pron:

https://bit.ly/2mxZ4oh

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 10:13 AM (+y/Ru)

121 /removal of persistent sock

Posted by: Muldoon at July 22, 2018 10:13 AM (m45I2)

122 Good morning morons.

I love the book thread OG! Thank you for all your hard work.

I highly recommend the James Asher novels by Barbara Hambly.

Espionage, vampires, WWI. Smartly written and not a sparkle in sight. There are 5 so start at the beginning.

Posted by: mpfs at July 22, 2018 10:14 AM (UpyDE)

123 Eris, I was using Trebant to be a metaphor for the shoddy stories being used as vehicles to carry a busload of puns.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:15 AM (deXW1)

124 I wonder if, in the name of diversity, the NY Times would feature a book set in the sands of Arabia, featuring the Romance between some old dude named Mohammed and a 9 year old girl.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 10:15 AM (V2Yro)

125 so the Great Canine God of Karma had the last laugh.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (deXW1)


...and then got distracted by the Celestial Squirrel.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 10:15 AM (y87Qq)

126 I am currently reading The Accidental City by Lawrence Powell.

I'm fascinated by the history of Louisiana.

Posted by: mpfs at July 22, 2018 10:16 AM (UpyDE)

127 I always wondered what was different about the second work, that it needed to be retold, because Dreadnought covers the subject quite thoroughly.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (cY3LT)

Does it cover the war or just the lead-up to the war? Based on the blurb from Dreadnought, that's how I understood it. But maybe Castles of Steel is just a pared down version of Dreadnought to only cover the war itself.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 22, 2018 10:17 AM (J70i0)

128 Just got the notification that the ebook I reserved is available. The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murphy should be an interesting read, especially the chapter on getting hooked on immigration.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 22, 2018 10:18 AM (rdl6o)

129 123 Eris, I was using Trebant to be a metaphor for the shoddy stories being used as vehicles to carry a busload of puns.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:15 AM (deXW1)
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Ha! So it IS a measure word! I like.

I proclaim it A Thing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 10:18 AM (gUCYC)

130 ...a smart bomb guided by a pigeon

...incendiary bats...

...Romans would set fatted pigs on fire...



*******

Ahem.

Hamster.

Artillery shell.

Hamster wheel to overcome the rotational problem.

Some assembly required.

"To Save Us All From Ruin" on Amazon

Posted by: Muldoon at July 22, 2018 10:18 AM (m45I2)

131 Liz Braswell, A Whole New World is the most horrific story I've read in awhile.

It's Disney contrafactual fanfic published by Disney in the 'A Twisted Tale' series, the first in it. The conceit is that one important detail goes different, turning what was a fairy tale into something - darker. For about 80 pages it is a parallel novelisation of the movie, and then it veers off.

Here the movie is Aladdin, with some tweaks leading up. Such as, that Iago the vizier Jafar's parrot is nonsentient. Iago's lines take place in the vizier's twisted brain. After page 80, Jafar successfully takes the magic lamp when Aladdin is at the Cave Of Wonders; in the movie Jafar had it later. This means Aladdin has to deal with the problem of Sultan Jafar without Robin Williams' help.

For Braswell, Jafar is an insecure madman who gets a lot more time to consider the limits of Genie Power in this world. He can't raise the dead or (most of all) force people to love him. So he seeks that power from... outside this world.

He's an Arab. Guess which book he needs for all that, screwheads.

The subtitle for this effort may as well be That Escalated Quickly. Jafar sets himself up like Saddam or Qaddafi. His "Aghrabah Ascendant" city is a totalitarian nightmare. And if he gets That Book Not Meant For The World Of The Living ...

Braswell needs to understand a few things, like that a baboon is not an ape (d'oh). Also, she brings in Current Year tropes like feminism which the movie had not. These anachronisms are fine for Robin Williams but not for the characters brought up under Islam. Fortunately they weren't so strong as to ruin the story.

Otherwise I liked this book a lot. The villain's extended reign allows for a character study of the villain's psyche; the suffering Jasmine goes through allows a way into Jasmine's. And there were some thoughtful comments about what happens to the Aghrabah currency if it suddenly goes fiat - literally wished into existence. Braswell might be a liberal feminist but she is NOT for the Universal Basic Income!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 10:18 AM (N1ZXu)

132 The Romans would set fatted pigs on fire point them at the target, usually a war elephant, and off they'd go like an early hell fire missile.
Posted by: bananadream at July 22, 2018 10:10 AM (YR7aL)
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War may be Hell, but sometimes it smells like bacon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 10:20 AM (gUCYC)

133 Put another way, I would rather have to deal with the seemingly never-ceasing expansion of federal power, which is the legacy of that war, than to have slavery embedded in our country as a permanent feature.

==

expansion of federal power amplified by the Civil War = national currency, taxation and the draft? or is there more ?

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 10:20 AM (bUjCl)

134 I always wondered what was different about the second work, that it needed to be retold, because Dreadnought covers the subject quite thoroughly.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:12 AM (cY3LT)

Does it cover the war or just the lead-up to the war? Based on the blurb from Dreadnought, that's how I understood it. But maybe Castles of Steel is just a pared down version of Dreadnought to only cover the war itself.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 22, 2018 10:17 AM (J70i0)


Yes, the war period is covered, because the whole premise of the book, really, was the folly of the British Admiralty, in trying to compete with the Germans, regarding armor, speed, and firepower.

The Dreadnought class battleship should have never been built, and so the few times in which it was tested, are covered quite thoroughly. Now, as for the rest of the war, I don't recall much else said about it, and I don't really remember him delving too deeply into the German side of the equation.

So maybe that's the difference.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:20 AM (cY3LT)

135 As for the Jalopnik article, the author can go pound sand...

Volkswagen in July 1945 was a bombed out shell of a factory that no one was really sure what to do with and there was even talk of letting the Russians have it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:21 AM (deXW1)

136 99 Not weird enough, the US in WWII tried to develop a smart bomb guided by a pigeon. Then there were the incendiary bats to burn Japan to the ground."

The incendiary bats are one of the most hilarious stories from WW2 I've ever read - they actually worked! But the only thing they ever burned down was a brand new army base in Southern California that was supposed to be opened and occupied by a contingent of troops for a few days. The guys testing the idea wanted a group of buildings that were unoccupied to test the feasibility of the idea; and since it was classified as a "secret weapon", the commandant of the base, who had overseen its construction, was forced to stay outside and block any fire equipment from coming in, because they might find out about the "secret weapon". So everyone just stood outside the gates and watched a shiny new army base, barracks and all, burn to the ground.

needless to say, that was the end of that idea. And it's inventors army career.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 10:22 AM (V2Yro)

137 Love the Trabant article. I did not know about the gravity drive fuel pump.

This thread is proceeding leisurely enough that I will re-tell a Trabi story what has once been told.

In the immediate post-DDR East a lot of roads were still cobblestone. Some of the Autobahns were cobblestone. One night in the rain and after an extra Scotch I slid a rented BMW just off the road and couldn't get out of the gully.

A Trabant stopped to help. The driver said "I'll get my tow cable". I allowed as to how it's convenient that he has a tow cable.

He: "Trabi-Farher haben alles!" (Trabi drivers have everything!). Apparently, self-reliance is called for among Trabi drivers.

Unfortunately the rental car weighed about 4,000 pound and the Trabi with a driver in it might have gone 600, so we didn't get me out of the ditch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 10:22 AM (fuK7c)

138 the Trabi with a driver in it might have gone 600

=

even less in kilos

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 10:24 AM (bUjCl)

139 Neil Gaiman, Don't Panic: The Official Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Companion was written in 1988, too early to catch "Mostly Harmless". Otherwise a good introduction to Douglas Adams, not just "Hitchhikers".

Not a perfect companion. It doesn't get fully into how Adams and Meretzky wrote that infamous game with the babel fish. (Meretzky had to fly to England, to force Adams to meet his damn deadline.)

Also there was one jarring scene where Adams is filming some adaptation or other, and some little child wanders off the set of Jim'll Fix It. Knowing what we know now about Jim Savile, I went into cold sweats reading that. It was written in 1988 ...

Otherwise, it is full of Adams outtakes from the scripts and drafts, with some excellent jokes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 10:24 AM (N1ZXu)

140 I wouldn't be starting any long books.

Super blood moon apocalypse: Bible prophecy predicts end of world 'days away'...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)

141 Greeting and salutations to the Book Thread! So nice to see we have the usual discussion gallimaufry from The War That Must Not Be Named to (one of my personal favorites) the chicken-powered nuclear land mine. You guys never disappoint.

And speaking of odd animal-based weaponry, just got the proof for a short story of mine inspired by the explosive-stuffed rat from WWII, appearing in the upcoming Fiction River: Spies anthology. I think it is coming out in November sometime.

Currently reading The Prophecy Con, sequel to The Palace Job. Funny caper fantasy by Patrick Weekes.

Does Mr. Varney care to comment on the kitteh status of his library? (Inquiring Morons want to know)

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 22, 2018 10:25 AM (L59/U)

142 Shakeup at the German Grand Prix

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 10:25 AM (pHfeF)

143 Oh gawd... "May you be blessed with a Trabant of Puns."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:25 AM (deXW1)

144 142 Shakeup at the German Grand Prix
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 10:25 AM (pHfeF)

Trabi on the track?

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)

145 104
...

Castles of Steel covers the British and German naval conflict during WWI. Unsurprisingly, Wilson's complaints about Americans killed by Germans sinking British vessels was so incoherent that William Jennings Bryant, his Secretary of State, resigned. Bryant really wanted to stay out of the war and took the line of if you travel to a war zone, do so at your own risk. Also, both England and Germany violated the rules of sea warfare whenever it suited them. It's a good read.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 22, 2018 10:06 AM (J70i0)


Not quite. The Germans seem to have been blind to the fact that sinking ships without warning was guaranteed to appall everyone else. (Though earlier French admirals had argued for it.) On the other hand, what the Brits were doing was old hat; everyone had seen it before.

It's not exactly a question of pure right and wrong, but of what the world sees as such. And Germany simply miscalculated, badly. IMO, this was a characteristic of much German naval thought at the time. Reading Tirpitz and Wegener, it's surprising how they don't consider other countries' reactions to their wishes.

There is a parallel here with the 7YW. At that time the Brits seemed to have a similar blind spot. For one thing, they never really got how their standard strategy (let the chips fall where they may in Europe, but dominate the rest of the world) was disliked by European allies. Even when it did work in those allies' favor - and all the more when it didn't. But they also seem not to see that the future US colonies were not part of what they thought of as the American empire, including Canada and the W Indies. The focus was either Massachusetts or the whole thing.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:27 AM (59GGI)

146 120 Dress pron:
https://bit.ly/2mxZ4oh

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 10:13 AM (+y/Ru)


No.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 10:28 AM (I3yXU)

147 There is ONE point in favor of the Trabi, even the Arabs can't make a VBIED out of one.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:28 AM (deXW1)

148 Shakeup at the German Grand Prix
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 10:25 AM (pHfeF)

Trabi on the track?
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)


What on earth is the flag for that?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 10:28 AM (y87Qq)

149 >>>"Readers want books that reflect the world they live in, and they won't settle for a book about a small town where every single person is white,"

I call bullshit. They try to psych out people into thinking that the changes they wish to bring about is a fait accompli so that people will passively accept their neighborhoods being overrun and silently resign themselves to it.

And what's wrong with a small town where every single person is white. Personally I'd rather live there rather than a small village in China, Africa or India where every single person is a PoC, and I suspect Leah Koch would too.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 10:29 AM (/qEW2)

150 Wonderbook: The Illustrated Guide to Creating Imaginative Fiction, guide for fiction writers which...

...takes a completely novel approach


*****

Heh. ISWTDT

Posted by: Muldoon at July 22, 2018 10:29 AM (m45I2)

151 Otherwise I liked this book a lot. The villain's extended reign allows for a character study of the villain's psyche; the suffering Jasmine goes through allows a way into Jasmine's. And there were some thoughtful comments about what happens to the Aghrabah currency if it suddenly goes fiat - literally wished into existence. Braswell might be a liberal feminist but she is NOT for the Universal Basic Income!
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 10:18 AM (N1ZXu)


Seems to somewhat parallel the ABC (thus Dinsey) series, "Once Upon a Time," which was recommended to me recently. I'm trying to slog through the first season...

I realize some things are not meant for me, but I do like the idea of rewiring the fairy tales. Make them more realistic, without changing the magic.

The execution however, is slow and quite boring at times. I've decided the structure of an American television series effectively ruins stories, because they have to drag things out for 22 episodes, then try to have year and year renewals. So the "payoff" is sometimes years down the road.

Who has that kind of time.

So yes, the evil queen is evil. Can we not just have a group of dwarves rape and kill her already? And not necessarily in that order?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:30 AM (cY3LT)

152 wait... an explosives stuffed rat?

Did the Rats of NIHM eat the Q-38?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:30 AM (deXW1)

153 hogmartin, that does cover it. I've been using those words (fantasy and fiction) interchangeably. Wrong.

Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 10:31 AM (cOHsM)

154 149 >>>"Readers want books that reflect the world they live in, and they won't settle for a book about a small town where every single person is white,"

I call bullshit. They try to psych out people into thinking that the changes they wish to bring about is a fait accompli so that people will passively accept their neighborhoods being overrun and silently resign themselves to it.

---------

I don't want fiction to "reflect the world I live in." There's nothing interesting about what I see or how I live every day. I guess that's why I don't like straight drama and prefer thrillers, sci-fi & fantasy and military history.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:32 AM (Izzlo)

155 I see that Rubio is a twit regarding the FISA warrant and with that and everything else going on with this sham investigation, ect...I think I will revisit Mr. Camus and read The Stranger....

Posted by: KWDreaming at July 22, 2018 10:33 AM (Ula5x)

156 I mentioned this last night, but you seem like a thoughtful lot.

If you haven't read the side bar article about the Soviet defector and the long term plan to take down the West, you really owe it to yourself.

It explains why we are living in such stupid times.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 22, 2018 10:35 AM (+Tibp)

157 I've had some time off so for once I've read some books, instead of lurking and copying down ones to read.

I read "Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended On It" by Chris Voss. I'm not good at getting a business to make something right. Used some of the techniques a few days later -got $100 taken off a bill at a place that did not give us very good service, which has never happened for me before. YMMV.

I read "What Patients Say, What Doctors Hear" by Danielle Ofri. If you are a physician, you may feel there is nothing new here. However, despite a long career behind me, I did pick up some tips for better active listening and getting to the patient's desired outcome. If you are on the patient side of the transaction, you may pick up some tips for being heard and taken seriously.

Also listened to Scott Adams' "How to Fail at Everything and Still Win Big" that someone here recommended.

Started Dennis Prager's book about Exodus. Will update when done.

Thanks for the recommendations - love the history books recommended here in particular!

Posted by: Jade Sea at July 22, 2018 10:36 AM (0sWXw)

158 Bit o' troble on the bock straeyt!

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 10:36 AM (RuIsu)

159 I see that Rubio is a twit regarding the FISA warrant and with that and everything else going on with this sham investigation, ect.
Posted by: KWDreaming

I remember when Rubio was Tea Party darling. Good times. He's grown in office.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 22, 2018 10:37 AM (+Tibp)

160 Anna Puma

The explosive-stuffed rat in all its glory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_rat Executive summary: it is speculated the mere idea of this caused more damage by inciting panic in the Nazi ranks than any actual deployed rats.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 22, 2018 10:38 AM (L59/U)

161 Man... I hate The New York Times.

Posted by: Al Crapton, hating The New York Times at July 22, 2018 10:38 AM (uN8it)

162 I had the opportunity to have a meal and after dinner drinks with a half dozen romance/mommy porn authors at an awards banquet. I am newly divorced so I checked out there pics before I got there. I have no problem tying up a drunk romance author for an evening of filth. Apparently the glamour shots were taken 10 years and 60 pounds ago. I kept my politics to myself and listened. The level of vulgar anger and hate spewed like an erupting volcano from their drunk pusses. My favorite rant; "Fuck Nicolas Sparks, that piece of shit. If he was a woman you would have never heard his fucking name." Me being the problem solver piped up with, "You could always try a male pen name." In stereo two shot back, "Fuck you!" These are generally not nice people.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 10:39 AM (T6C20)

163 I watched Jaws a couple of weeks ago and was struck how pleasant it was to watch white people doing white people things. White people are so much more interesting to watch. This may be because most PoCs are only on film to meet a quota, not be the star. There are a few exceptions, but they are very few.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 10:39 AM (vV/gB)

164 Good to see Varney made something of himself after hanging around the Times-Pic all those years. ha. I "knew" Varney (as I recall his own team called him) when the paper had a volleyball team at a little bar in Metairie ... 25 years ago. sheesh ... time flies.

"Knew" is in quotes because it was pretty superficial, and I wish I'd known enough about politics back then, to tap his brain and experience. Such is life I guess. I would ref a lot of games ... don't need to say more than that.

Rusty seemed to be doing well last I looked, no idea about Rose and the rest. I left NOLA last century, so missed Katrina except for the friends sharing their misery. Pulitzers ... WOW, congrats.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 22, 2018 10:40 AM (bT8Z4)

165 What am I reading?

A FISA warrant. Rich and compelling.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 10:40 AM (/tuJf)

166 I guess that's why I don't like straight drama
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:32 AM (Izzlo)

Hey there.

Posted by: Lezbo Literary Fanfic at July 22, 2018 10:40 AM (Zogyx)

167
f you haven't read the side bar article about the Soviet defector and the long term plan to take down the West,


=

It bore fruit. However, the originator is gone. Now it is like that doomsday machine in one of the Star Treks, programmed to fight the war that no longer exists, kills anything in its path.

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 10:41 AM (bUjCl)

168 The Dreadnought class battleship should have never been built, and so the few times in which it was tested, are covered quite thoroughly. Now, as for the rest of the war, I don't recall much else said about it, and I don't really remember him delving too deeply into the German side of the equation.

So maybe that's the difference.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:20 AM (cY3LT)


Massey is not the best source for serious naval analysis. Norman Friedman, Jon Sumida, and John Brooks are better. Also Gordon's Rules, flawed though it is.

The trouble with that (a common assertion) is that it ignores just how infrequent big naval battles have always been. Big main fleet actions are rare. WWII change things some, because aircraft allowed you to hit without closing. Also, far fewer were decisive (in material terms) than people realize. In De Grasse's victory off Yorktown, no British ships were taken, and none sunk while in action (one foundered on the way back.)

But without a battle fleet, your seapower becomes extremely vulnerable. E.g., Heligoland Bight, or the German attacks on Norwegian convoys. The trouble in WWI is that things seemed to have changed very rapidly, and no one knew exactly what they were dealing with. Many thought (wrongly) that history had no lessons that were still valid.

The increasing ranges of the time made dreadnoughts inevitable. Mixed batteries were no longer feasible, and big guns gained large advantages.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:41 AM (59GGI)

169 On a stormy winter night with the wind howling and yowling outside read a book of scary stories

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 22, 2018 10:41 AM (FLiOE)

170 Popping in amidst chores.

Finished 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote to Chaos by Jordan B Peterson.

It would have made a difference if I had been a receptive teenager and read it then. I would have not had to discover so many eternal truths by trial and error.

Now it is well told common sense.

Recommended for the 20-somethings that needs some boundaries and the reasons for those boundaries. Or a grandchild to read and discuss with.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 10:41 AM (hyuyC)

171 Greetings:

Re: "Washington's Spies..."

I started reading it but found it rather "Department of Redundancy Department"-y and gave up on it. which I very rarely do. I great deal of similarity in the individual stories if you get my drift.

I would appreciate recommendations on any biographies of General Philip Sheridan or General William Tecumseh Sherman. I'm reading "Grant" by Ron CHernow and they come across as kind of sketchy.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 22, 2018 10:42 AM (evgyj)

172 A FISA warrant. Rich and compelling.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'd hope you'd chime in on this. What's your take?

Posted by: Blutarski at July 22, 2018 10:43 AM (+Tibp)

173 I've been using those words (fantasy and fiction) interchangeably. Wrong.
Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 10:31 AM (cOHsM)


Only inasmuch as people might get confused about what you're referring to. And "fantasy" does tend to be one of the more rigidly-defined genres, and if not rigidly-defined, then at least most people would agree on whether something is or isn't fantasy. But still, if that's the definition - a world with different but internally consistent rules - wouldn't really outré science fiction be "fantasy" too? I've said before that I consider the Duneiverse stories to have much more in common with traditional fantasy than with SF. Generally, if the bits that make the world "special" are magic or spirituality, I'll call it fantasy, and if the rules come from technology that's more advanced than ours, I call it science fiction. There's still a lot of overlap, plus I'm not the King of Books or nothin'.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)

174 "Put another way, I would rather have to deal with the seemingly never-ceasing expansion of federal power, which is the legacy of that war, than to have slavery embedded in our country as a permanent feature."

And what makes you think the expansion of Federal power did anything other than perpetuate slavery while expanding the pool of potential slaves?

Posted by: SDN at July 22, 2018 10:44 AM (z3gg+)

175 ... so we didn't get me out of the ditch.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 10:22 AM (fuK7c)

===

Somehow, I knew that's how that Trabant story would end.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2018 10:45 AM (JvZF+)

176 that story about the Trabi trying to tow a much bigger vehicle reminded me of one of the funniest scenes I remember back in my oilfield days. We were out in the country, mud roads, and a large truck and gotten it's rear axle bogged down in a particularly bad spot. So the guy in charge of the operation had hitched his pickup to the front, but since he was trying to pull something with a GVW of 50,000 lbs, he wasn't making much headway.

So me and 2 guys under me pull up, in our pickup, and the boss in charge immediately commandeers my two guys, cuz it's an "emergency" and all that, and he tells them to get behind the big truck and help push. The older of my guys just looks at him and nods, he was kind of a quiet country boy. And then he unzips the front of his coveralls, from the top down, and then looks down and stares at himself with kind of a puzzled look. So the boss asks him "Just what the hell are you doin'????""

and he replies "Oh, I just needed to check. Nope, ain't no big blue "S" on MY chest!" we couldn't help it, that put everyone on the ground laughing!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 10:47 AM (V2Yro)

177 Vettel crashed out of 1st place, Hamilton wins taking over led in the championship

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 10:47 AM (pHfeF)

178 "Readers want books that reflect the world they live in..."

Of course that's the line they push. They want to keep our horizons as small as possible. And avoid any awareness that there is a world beyond their immediate on.

We see the effects all around. A lot of the intolerant rage of millennials comes from the shock of encountering another perspective. And that prospect seems unendurable to them. (Another point on which Lewis wrote well.) The smaller the world, the easier it is to control.

I think I need sleep.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:47 AM (59GGI)

179 Somehow, I knew that's how that Trabant story would end.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

There's a great series on Prime about "cars of the people" with James May of The Grand Tour fame. Highly entertaining. He savages the Trabant.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 22, 2018 10:47 AM (+Tibp)

180 The Dreadnought class battleship should have never been built, and so the few times in which it was tested, are covered quite thoroughly. Now, as for the rest of the war, I don't recall much else said about it, and I don't really remember him delving too deeply into the German side of the equation.

So maybe that's the difference.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:20 AM (cY3LT)

Massey is not the best source for serious naval analysis. Norman Friedman, Jon Sumida, and John Brooks are better. Also Gordon's Rules, flawed though it is.

.......
Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:41 AM (59GGI)


Military history is of course, mostly divided into two categories: big picture stuff, and the stuff that gets down into the mud (or water) and looks at the nitty gritty.

I prefer the big picture stuff.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:48 AM (cY3LT)

181 Did the Rats of NIHM eat the Q-38?"

Nah.

Quadrotriticale.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 22, 2018 10:48 AM (6qErC)

182 Just read Guest Shot by David Locke. Interesting blurb but glad I paid only 50 cents for it. One of the few books I did not finish. I could handle guessing the plot of it was well written and had solid characters, which it did not.

A few chapters into Anthony Horowitz's new book, The Word is Murder. The author writes himself into the story and so far I am thinking that Horowitz might have actually succeeded in doing a good job of it.

Posted by: Charlotte at July 22, 2018 10:48 AM (trNu7)

183 Tiger actually making a legit charge at the British Open

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 10:49 AM (Ydx5u)

184 ...with that and everything else going on with this sham investigation, ect...I think I will revisit Mr. Camus and read The Stranger....

Posted by: KWDreaming at July 22, 2018 10:33 AM (Ula5x)


Franz Kafka's The Trial would also be appropriate

Posted by: cool breeze at July 22, 2018 10:50 AM (UGKMd)

185 Sabrina Chase, I hope you clicked on the links provided on the Wiki page.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/oct/27/richardnortontaylor

I do wonder if the Pied Piper of Hamelin got updated by the Nazis as a result.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 10:50 AM (deXW1)

186 Tiger actually making a legit charge at the British Open
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 10:49 AM (Ydx5u)

This is fun to watch. I'm seeing the swagger.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 10:50 AM (T6C20)

187 And what makes you think the expansion of Federal power did anything other than perpetuate slavery while expanding the pool of potential slaves?

Relevant: archaeology.org/news/6799-180718-texas-convict-lease

the remains of some 95 people have been found at a Texas plantation cemetery dating from the late nineteenth to the early twentieth century. About half of the graves have been exhumed, and more than 20 of the bodies have been analyzed. All but one of them were men who lived to between the ages of about 14 to 70. The bones show evidence of poor childhood health and heavy labor. Some of them may have been former slaves. Ken Brown of the University of Houston thinks the men may have been African-American laborers who worked at the sugar plantation under a convict lease system.

Under slavery, masters worked slaves because, well, life sucks, and there (theoretically) wasn't malice behind it. After slavery, the state of Texas worked slaves and told them they deserved it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 10:50 AM (N1ZXu)

188 That jalopnik article on the Trabant is pretty funny:

It's also worth noting that the colors that Trabants were available in are very strange. I've heard a lot about 'goose shit green' as a color, and two-tone ones were known, with a contrasting color roof. Like this one here: it appears to be the color of pus, with a roof the color of I-should-see-a-doctor mucus.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 10:51 AM (I3yXU)

189 >>I'd hope you'd chime in on this. What's your take?

Haven't had a chance to read it thoroughly yet but pretty much the same as yours and everyone else's. A completely bogus warrant based on lies and conflicting information done strictly to spy on the Tump campaign that implicates numerous people in the Obama administration.

We all knew this is where it was headed but it's still breathtaking to see

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 10:51 AM (/tuJf)

190 Currently working through the original "The Mark of Zorro" as part of a collection of old adventure stories. (The collection concludes with "King Solomon's Mines.") So far, this has been the best of the bunch, and has been genuinely pretty fun. It is amusing how overboard the author went with the unassuming alter ego.

Its also amusing how Hispanic it is. I have no idea if it is accurate or not, but the characters all feel as if they genuinely come from another culture. You'd think the modern multi-culti crowd would have been trumpeting that fact like it was groundbreaking or something. But, no....

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 22, 2018 10:51 AM (Lhaco)

191 Popping in amidst chores.

Finished 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote to Chaos by Jordan B Peterson.

It would have made a difference if I had been a receptive teenager and read it then. I would have not had to discover so many eternal truths by trial and error.

Now it is well told common sense.

Recommended for the 20-somethings that needs some boundaries and the reasons for those boundaries. Or a grandchild to read and discuss with.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 10:41 AM (hyuyC)



That was my take. I got about 25% into it, and kept thinking "tell me something I don't already know."

Realizing this book was not meant for me, I stopped reading. I can appreciate his effort here, I do think he's way too wordy for the subject matter, but if it's resonating with the yoots, then that's a good thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)

192 What's a good book on the Texas War of Independence? The one I have in my library, by Nofi, I read a long time ago and recall not enjoying very much.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:53 AM (Izzlo)

193 Just below this post in my browser was an ad that says I was reading, then I looked up and my child had drowned in the pool.

Google ad algorithm fail.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2018 10:54 AM (DH5wZ)

194 Military history is of course, mostly divided into two categories: big picture stuff, and the stuff that gets down into the mud (or water) and looks at the nitty gritty.

I prefer the big picture stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:48 AM (cY3LT)

Preference is fine. But remember that big pictures are ALWAYS gross oversimplifications.

My absolute favorite argument for this is actually from Literary History. C S Lewis's volume of the Oxford History. The introduction should be required reading in all schools. It's actually online

https://tinyurl.com/yd5slm7j

I cannot recommend it too highly.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:54 AM (59GGI)

195 Decided to read a couple more "Classics" so picked up The Deerslayer and The Last of The Mohicans, by James Fenimore Cooper, about 3 weeks ago.

Read The Deerslayer and am halfway through TLotM.

Holy Shit, what a pair of windy, pompous, mind-bogglingly boring books. I have almost lost my mind reading this endless drivel.

The "action" in The Deerslayer could have been written in 50 pages, rather than 522, and Mohicans, while a little better written, is also just unreadable.

I had thought I would try to read all 5 novels in The Leatherstocking Tales but once Mohicans is done, that's it.

Ugh. How did this author ever get published?!

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 10:55 AM (+BKF+)

196 Is it possible romance novels are not particularly diverse because their audience isn't interested in books about lesbians, gays, transsexuals and gender fluid people?
I'm not a a literary genius like the reviewer who pondered that but I do wonder.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 10:55 AM (nBr1j)

197 Does it cover the war or just the lead-up to the war? Based on the blurb from Dreadnought, that's how I understood it. But maybe Castles of Steel is just a pared down version of Dreadnought to only cover the war itself.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 22, 2018 10:17 AM (J70i0)
----------------

I've read both "Dreadnought" and "Castles of Steel." Both are highly readable and well worth it.

Both books give some fascinating insights as to British and German thought.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 10:56 AM (WEBkv)

198 I think JJ is going to have a field day tomorrow.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 22, 2018 10:56 AM (+Tibp)

199 I started watching Bones tv series on amazon (currently in season 3)
I like that it has banter, and a sense of team ( "family") loyalty
I might try the Kathy Reichs books that it's loosely based on

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 10:56 AM (hMwEB)

200 If you have not eaten yet, ya might want to take a look at Weasel Zippers....Apparently someone told The FAB that she would look good wearing a tent the other day. My G-D it's a site to see. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 10:56 AM (Ydx5u)

201 No offense to my fellow morons, but I'm about to fall asleep. Coffee just isn't cutting it. (Was up before 3.)

Crush Dissent.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:56 AM (59GGI)

202 Late to the thread, dammit! Oh well.

Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a fine week of reading. Or a week of fine reading. Or both.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 10:57 AM (V+03K)

203 I'm not a a literary genius like the reviewer who pondered that but I do wonder.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 22, 2018 10:55 AM (nBr1j)

How about the obvious. The audience they pander to doesn't read that much.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 10:57 AM (T6C20)

204 194 Military history is of course, mostly divided into two categories: big picture stuff, and the stuff that gets down into the mud (or water) and looks at the nitty gritty.

I prefer the big picture stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 10:48 AM (cY3LT)

Preference is fine. But remember that big pictures are ALWAYS gross oversimplifications.

My absolute favorite argument for this is actually from Literary History. C S Lewis's volume of the Oxford History. The introduction should be required reading in all schools. It's actually online

https://tinyurl.com/yd5slm7j

I cannot recommend it too highly.
Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 10:54 AM (59GGI)

When possible, I read a big picture book, then try to find books focused on campaigns and battles of the war - from "big picture" to "little details." But I like to read about small wars and secondary theaters of larger wars, so there's sometimes there's only big-picture books available on the topic.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:57 AM (Izzlo)

205 Not exactly a book but linked over at Insty Andrew McCarthy is embarrassed because he said the FBI couldn't do what it did with the Steele dossier. Like what we all said they did.

Is it just me or does he end up being surprised a lot?

People who he swore were righteous are proven venal.

We have a whole system based on trust and it turns out that all of it was misplaced.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2018 10:58 AM (DH5wZ)

206 I consider FDR, not Lincoln, to be the prez most responsible for the growth of big nanny state federal gubmint. Everything Lincoln did was a wartime measure intended to be temporary, whereas FDR was attempting in his own way to "fundamentally transform" the US economy and society. Also, it would appear, based on things Lincoln said shortly before his death, that his Reconstruction policy for the South would have been significantly less harsh and pervasive than what his successors implemented. Though I suppose that Lincoln's Reconstruction policy is a lot like JFK's Vietnam policy in that historians can read what they want into it because it never came to fruition....

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 10:58 AM (9WuX0)

207 155 I see that Rubio is a twit
Posted by: KWDreaming at July 22, 2018 10:33 AM (Ula5x)


You can end the sentence right there.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 10:58 AM (I3yXU)

208 Well, not only late to the thread, but no team to peruse and get some ideas.

Off to church then over to see if Mom's A/C has died.

Have a good one, people of the book thread!

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 10:59 AM (WEBkv)

209 American Thinker has pics of Grandma Wobbles in her tent. Definately see an outline of a catheter or colostomy bag.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 22, 2018 11:00 AM (89T5c)

210 The trouble with that (a common assertion) is that it ignores just how infrequent big naval battles have always been. Big main fleet actions are rare.

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Martin Middlebrook made that point in one of his books. (The Berlin Raids?) While the Brit admirals risked their assets infrequently, "Bomber" Harris put almost his entire fleet on the line almost every night.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 11:00 AM (+y/Ru)

211 Pretty neat that Ernest of the Ernest goes to... posts at aos.

Wait...what?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:01 AM (2DOZq)

212 206,

Don't discount Wilson.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 22, 2018 11:01 AM (6qErC)

213 But still, if that's the definition - a world with different but internally consistent rules - wouldn't really outré science fiction be "fantasy" too?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)

I've always considered science fiction to be a subset of fantasy
Specially as much of the "science" in science fiction is pure handwavium

A fiction novel with just hard science in it is often a futuristic thriller rather than SF.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 11:01 AM (hMwEB)

214 *pauses*

Blake that could be a series. A minister/mechanic who battles demonically possessed appliances.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (deXW1)

215 *people voluntarilly go and look at picture of HRC ?? how odd...*

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (bUjCl)

216 Decided to read a couple more "Classics" so picked up The Deerslayer and The Last of The Mohicans, by James Fenimore Cooper, about 3 weeks ago.

Ugh. How did this author ever get published?!
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 10:55 AM (+BKF+)


No idea, man.

http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html

Posted by: Mark Twain at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (y87Qq)

217 *people voluntarilly go and look at picture of HRC ?? how odd...*

Rule 34?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (N1ZXu)

218 Just started reading The Tale of Hilltop Farm (Beatrix Potter mystery) on the advice of several of you on the book thread. I absolutely love it. I haven't read a real book in quite a while and I am dertmined to get back into my reading habit. This book is perfect. It's a charming story with wonderful characters and it makes me happy every time I get back to it. Thanks all!

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (WY9Hg)

219 Well, not quite the last rose of summer, but here I is anyway.

This week I read Best Day Ever by Kaira Rouda. Talk about your readable books! I guess you'd call it a "beach read," but it was addictive. The young (rich) wife of a narcissist/sociopath/gold-digger finally wises up to creep she married and decides to do something about it. Highly recommended.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 22, 2018 11:03 AM (ihzOe)

220 Rule 34?

=

I missed class on the day we covered rule 34..what is it ??

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 11:04 AM (bUjCl)

221 Pretty neat that Ernest of the Ernest goes to... posts at aos.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:01 AM (2DOZq)


...the Barrel?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 11:04 AM (y87Qq)

222 The Trabant article really was one of triumph in adversity.

I mean, these were Germans, forced to drive around in crappy cars. That's worthy of a tearful Sarah McLachlan song right there.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:04 AM (gUCYC)

223 Those silly pants don't look bad for a silly activity like golf.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 11:05 AM (bNb8V)

224 Holy Shit, what a pair of windy, pompous, mind-bogglingly boring books. I have almost lost my mind reading this endless drivel.


Heh. Last of the Mohicans was one of my free downloads yesterday. I guess I won't prioritize it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:05 AM (fuK7c)

225 The Courtney Milan from the OP is one of the women who #MeToo'd Alex Kozinski off the 9th Circus. That might be good or bad, depending on his replacement.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 11:05 AM (/qEW2)

226 205Andrew McCarthy is embarrassed because he said the FBI couldn't do what it did with the Steele dossier. Like what we all said they did.

Is it just me or does he end up being surprised a lot?

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2018 10:58 AM (DH5wZ)


McCarthy has been living in a state of continual befuddlement ever since Comey announced he wasn't going to prosecute Hillary because he couldn't prove she "intended" to break the law. One by one, all of these gov't officials and FBI bureaucrats turned out to have done dodgy things, and every time, McCarthy writes an NRO piece acknowledging their wrongdoing but proclaiming what great patriots they are and what men of integrity they are and how he just can't understand what they did. He just can't bring himself to admit that they're criminals trying to bring down a sitting president.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:06 AM (I3yXU)

227 O M - twitchy.com 7-year-old-chess-prodigy cant compete at world championship-in-tunisia-because shes israeli

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 11:06 AM (pHfeF)

228 Holy Shit, what a pair of windy, pompous, mind-bogglingly boring books. I have almost lost my mind reading this endless drivel.

==

Cooper writes like a proto-prog

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 11:06 AM (hMwEB)

229 "I proclaim it A Thing"

Five Trabants = One Yugo

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:07 AM (UdKB7)

230 Do you ever get the feeling that you will soon be reading a particular kind of story? I don't know why but I expect to read some HP Lovecraft this week. Perhaps I'm in the mood for some overly lush, over the top, tales. And where evil doesn't have to come from politics.

Of course, I might also re-read Wind in the Willows or essays by Montaigne.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (V+03K)

231 Rule 34, porn or sexual material exist for every conceivable topic

Posted by: A dude in MI at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (CDETr)

232 If Varney is lurking now, did you know a Hector San Miguel? Lake Charles American Press.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (2DOZq)

233 227 https://tinyurl.com/y9lkyxo8

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (pHfeF)

234 Thanks for the assist! I've given away 13 ebooks, so far...

Posted by: scrood at July 22, 2018 11:09 AM (NlCk7)

235 I've always considered science fiction to be a subset of fantasy
Specially as much of the "science" in science fiction is pure handwavium
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 11:01 AM (hMwEB)


I think you're right. If you set two books next to each other, it's easy to say "well THAT one's science fiction and THAT one is fantasy", but when you start looking at how you're going to apply guidelines to classify them, science fiction is pretty much entirely within the set of fantasy fiction.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 11:09 AM (y87Qq)

236 For Hillary!? That would be Rule 34XXXXXL

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:10 AM (deXW1)

237 206 I consider FDR, not Lincoln, to be the prez most responsible for the growth of big nanny state federal gubmint. "

It's the nature of a powerful, centralized system to become even more powerful and more centralized under the pressure of any great emergency. (War, economic depression, etc) And the system that does this most successfully will always outcompete those systems that don't adapt. Not just in our times, this is how Rome took over it's world, and how the State of Chin subdued all of the warring states. It can't be avoided.

It's easy to forget that one of the prime reasons the Confederacy collapsed was that they based their government on the old Articles of Confederation, which made States Right's Supreme. In practice, this meant that at the end, when Lee's army was out of ammunition and equipment, there were Governor's sitting on warehouses full of both, refusing to send them to Lee because they thought they needed them more.

One of the great historical ironies is that the current EU doesn't even acknowledge that their charter is set much like the Articles of Confederation. We tried that, twice, and both times, it failed. Miserably!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 11:10 AM (V2Yro)

238 230 Do you ever get the feeling that you will soon be reading a particular kind of story? I don't know why but I expect to read some HP Lovecraft this week. Perhaps I'm in the mood for some overly lush, over the top, tales. And where evil doesn't have to come from politics.

Of course, I might also re-read Wind in the Willows or essays by Montaigne.
Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (V+03K)

If you want to read a Lovecraft-esque tale, I'd recommend reading a short story by T.E.D. Klein. He wrote stories in the spirit of Lovecraft, without being hack-job copies.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 11:10 AM (Izzlo)

239 >>>>Yes, the war period is covered, because the whole premise of the book, really, was the folly of the British Admiralty, in trying to compete with the Germans, regarding armor, speed, and firepower.

The Dreadnought class battleship should have never been built,


I guess I have to read this book, because none of that makes any sense.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (3DZIZ)

240 Five Trabants = One Yugo
Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:07 AM (UdKB7)

That covers metric.

Two Gremlins = One Aztek
One Aztek is equivalent to .75 of a Country Squire.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (gUCYC)

241 Decided to read a couple more "Classics" so picked up The Deerslayer and The Last of The Mohicans, by James Fenimore Cooper, about 3 weeks ago.

Ugh. How did this author ever get published?!
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 10:55 AM (+BKF+)

No idea, man.

http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html
Posted by: Mark Twain at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (y87Qq)


I have never read Cooper's books, and so I wondered if Twain was just having a lark, being a bit of a dick about Cooper's work.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)

242 Last classic I re- read was Silas Marner. I've heard most give it a negative review but I liked it.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (2DOZq)

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (3DZIZ)

244 So what will a Pacer get you?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (deXW1)

245 I don't know why but I expect to read some HP Lovecraft this week. Perhaps I'm in the mood for some overly lush, over the top, tales. And where evil doesn't have to come from politics.
Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (V+03K)


╭(;,;)╯

https://stoatnet.org/nolivesmatter.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (y87Qq)

246 11 members of one family boarded that DUKW. 9 of them drowned, including 4 children.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (+BKF+)

247 -----

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (3DZIZ)

248 >>Not exactly a book but linked over at Insty Andrew McCarthy is embarrassed because he said the FBI couldn't do what it did with the Steele dossier. Like what we all said they did.

Is it just me or does he end up being surprised a lot?

It's not just you. For an expert, he sure is wrong a lot.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (/tuJf)

249 Put another way, I would rather have to deal with the seemingly never-ceasing expansion of federal power, which is the legacy of that war, than to have slavery embedded in our country as a permanent feature.
*****
As long as we dont let the former re-engender a more pervasive form of the latter, and we end up with both!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (Vs607)

250 So why don't backward v brackets show up?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:14 AM (3DZIZ)

251 54 < 55

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (3DZIZ)

252 No idea, man.

http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html

Posted by: Mark Twain at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (y87Qq)



omg, that's hilarious. I haven't finished it yet, but the 18 points are quite the smackdown.

I like how he starts by calling out pompous professors who are credentialed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (fuK7c)

253 There is a lot of mention of the true Peoples Car, the Trabant, this morning. Bear in mind, at the close of WW2, the Heer was mostly horse drawn, making the Trabant a step down.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (xzqr4)

254 Fun fact. It takes 917 Trabees to make one Porsche 917.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (UdKB7)

255 242 Last classic I re- read was Silas Marner. I've heard most give it a negative review but I liked it.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (2DOZq)
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I know! It was always held up to be a slog but I found it beautifully written. The scene where he sees little Effie's golden hair shining in the sun, and it melts the gold-craving miser's heart, is just lovely.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (gUCYC)

256 There has to be numbers?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (3DZIZ)

257 I think you're right. If you set two books next to each other, it's easy to say "well THAT one's science fiction and THAT one is fantasy", but when you start looking at how you're going to apply guidelines to classify them, science fiction is pretty much entirely within the set of fantasy fiction."

And that's where you get into the distinctions such as "hard SF" and the others. You have things like Star Wars, which is just Space Opera since they don't even try to make any scientific sense, and on the other hand you have stories like "Interstellar", which still has fantasy elements (the extra dimensional stuff) but other than that makes an attempt to deal with Relativity as well as it can be explained.

Of course, that made it a bit hard to follow, because Relativity is a really, really weird thing to try to explain.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 11:16 AM (V2Yro)

258 Oops, "Eppie" (Hepsibah).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:16 AM (gUCYC)

259 Yes, the war period is covered, because the whole premise of the book, really, was the folly of the British Admiralty, in trying to compete with the Germans, regarding armor, speed, and firepower.

The Dreadnought class battleship should have never been built,
---------------------------

I guess I have to read this book, because none of that makes any sense.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (3DZIZ)


None of it?

Arms race. Germans v. Brits. The Brits had long enjoyed supremacy of the sea. Then the Germans started building bigger, faster, ships, with bigger guns. So the Brits had to counter them. And hence the problem: If you build faster, you have to be lighter, if you are lighter, the bigger shells can more easily penetrate your armor, so if you build thicker armor you are slower, and thus more easily outmaneuvered, but if you have bigger guns you don't have to get as close to hit your target, and so on and so on and so on.

The Brits, with the Dreadnought class, chose lighter armor. They chose... poorly.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:16 AM (cY3LT)

260 I have never read Cooper's books, and so I wondered if Twain was just having a lark, being a bit of a dick about Cooper's work.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)


We had to read LotM in high school, but I don't remember a single thing about it.

Still, I'm pretty confident that I'd get more out of a crude cartoon Twain scrawled on the wall in a truck stop restroom stall dissing Cooper's mom than anything Cooper himself ever wrote.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)

261 255 242 Last classic I re- read was Silas Marner. I've heard most give it a negative review but I liked it.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (2DOZq)
---
I know! It was always held up to be a slog but I found it beautifully written. The scene where he sees little Effie's golden hair shining in the sun, and it melts the gold-craving miser's heart, is just lovely. "

There's a film adaption of this story starring Ben Kingsley and I thought it was very well done. Quite enjoyable to watch.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (V2Yro)

262 Is it just me or does he end up being surprised a lot?

==

Everything is unexpected

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (hMwEB)

263 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:15 AM (gUCYC)

I think it's the same reason why I love Despicable Me.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (2DOZq)

264 There's a film adaption of this story starring Ben Kingsley and I thought it was very well done. Quite enjoyable to watch.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (V2Yro)

Also a modern version starring Steve Martin.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:19 AM (2DOZq)

265 ----The Brits, with the Dreadnought class, chose lighter armor. They chose... poorly.-----


How many British battleships, not battlecruisers, were sunk by gunfire in WWI?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 22, 2018 11:20 AM (3DZIZ)

266 244 So what will a Pacer get you?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (deXW1)
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Ah, the AMC Pacer really is the, uh, gold standard.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:20 AM (gUCYC)

267 238 ... "If you want to read a Lovecraft-esque tale, I'd recommend reading a short story by T.E.D. Klein. He wrote stories in the spirit of Lovecraft, without being hack-job copies."

josephstan, thanks for the tip. Never heard of the author and will check out his books.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 11:20 AM (V+03K)

268 Israel blasts CNN's coverage: 'Stop your manipulation'
CNN reversed order of deaths in Hamas attack, 'manipulating' news item to make it appear that Israel struck first, says Foreign Ministry.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:20 AM (Ydx5u)

269 11 members of one family boarded that DUKW. 9 of them drowned, including 4 children.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (+BKF+)


I haven't read into the story, but apparently there was a ticket mixup. They weren't supposed to be on that boat.

The woman who survived is apparently saying she wishes she was dead, that she had died with the rest of her family.

Horrible.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:21 AM (cY3LT)

270 266 244 So what will a Pacer get you?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:12 AM (deXW1)

Enough steel to build four K cars.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 11:21 AM (T6C20)

271 Dreadnought is a cool word, design specs notwithstanding.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:21 AM (fuK7c)

272 Phony WaPo 'Conservative' Max Boot, a Useful Idiot for the Left: I Miss Obama And Would Take Him Back In A Nanosecond

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Max Boot is a true conservative.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (+y/Ru)

273 Israel blasts CNN's coverage: 'Stop your manipulation'
CNN reversed order of deaths in Hamas attack, 'manipulating' news item to make it appear that Israel struck first, says Foreign Ministry.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:20 AM (Ydx5u)

Not surprising from Saddam News Network. They should have had their license pulled for sedition.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (2DOZq)

274 I enjoyed Hans Schantzs two books. The second is *A Rambling Wreck* and follows the protagonist to Georgia Tech, where he gets closer to the truth, and hopefully closer to getting laid!

So where is book 3? I follow Hans on Amazon but have not heard anything. I worry that he has written himself into a corner. *Yes, and the hidden secret missing piece of modern physics is... er... revealed in book 4!!*

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (Vs607)

275 Phony WaPo 'Conservative' Max Boot, a Useful Idiot for the Left: I Miss Obama And Would Take Him Back In A Nanosecond

-
Max Boot is a true conservative.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (+y/Ru)

Das Boot?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (Ydx5u)

276 Max Boot, Das Boot... well who's getting the electric torpedo today?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:24 AM (deXW1)

277 I'd hope you'd chime in on this. What's your take?



Haven't had a chance to read it thoroughly yet but pretty much the
same as yours and everyone else's. A completely bogus warrant based on
lies and conflicting information done strictly to spy on the Tump
campaign that implicates numerous people in the Obama administration.



We all knew this is where it was headed but it's still breathtaking to see


Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 10:51 AM

---

Page was a patsy and the FBI needed him and his travel to Russia to get close to Trump through the FISA warrant.


I still maintain that Page is/was an FBI informant and that is why he has never been charged with anything.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 22, 2018 11:24 AM (+Dllb)

278 Sharkman,
Twain had something to say about Fenimore Cooper:

http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 22, 2018 11:24 AM (S7ZzA)

279 I have never read Cooper's books, and so I wondered if Twain was just having a lark, being a bit of a dick about Cooper's work.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)

We had to read LotM in high school, but I don't remember a single thing about it.

Still, I'm pretty confident that I'd get more out of a crude cartoon Twain scrawled on the wall in a truck stop restroom stall dissing Cooper's mom than anything Cooper himself ever wrote.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)


I don't know how I managed to miss Cooper in school, but somehow I did.

I guess I was lucky.

Most interesting thing of Twain's I have read... not most entertaining, most interesting, is his autobio. The early part of the book is all light and funny and typical Twain. Then later in his life, people he loved started dying.

Egad...

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:24 AM (cY3LT)

280 well, since I read a whole book yesterday, I have to go to a bookstore to buy another one

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 11:24 AM (N1ZXu)

281 I did read that Twain piece on Cooper.

Most of his criticisms were spot on, but he was also just being a colossal dick.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 11:25 AM (+BKF+)

282 Twain is just flaying Cooper!

7. They require that when a personage talks like an illustrated, gilt-edged, tree-calf, hand-tooled, seven- dollar Friendship's Offering in the beginning of a paragraph, he shall not talk like a negro minstrel in the end of it. But this rule is flung down and danced upon in the "Deerslayer" tale.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:25 AM (gUCYC)

283 Finishing-up reading La Grande Armée by Georges Blond (english translation edition). A study of the French Army during the Napoleonic War from 1804, I found it to be extremely informative and a great peak into the army from the French perspective. Very little tactical details and it is more about the interplay of personalities and various little anecdotes.

I had not realized that the Bourbons had put most of the officers on half-pay and had also forbidden them by law to seek other employment during the First Restoration after Napoleon abdicated in 1814. No wonder those guys were pissed and jumped at a chance to strike back at the Bourbons in 1815. The Bourbons were described as "Forgetting nothing and learning nothing."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 22, 2018 11:25 AM (5Yee7)

284 Tiger is playing well, very well, and the other guys are self destructing. Oh he is in the lead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:25 AM (Ydx5u)

285 Time to write, I hope everyone has a wonderful day. God bless all of you.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 22, 2018 11:25 AM (T6C20)

286 245 ... Hogmartin, Thanks for the link. Now THAT is art!!

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 11:25 AM (V+03K)

287 "So what will a Pacer get you?"

Ridicule and scorn. But still rates at least two Yugos.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:26 AM (UdKB7)

288 Under slavery, masters worked slaves because, well, life sucks, and there (theoretically) wasn't malice behind it. After slavery, the state of Texas worked slaves and told them they deserved it."

I think you're talking about the infamous Texas Prison Farm system. It had a pretty notorious history, and since it was all convicts everybody pretty much turned a blind eye to what was going on there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 11:26 AM (V2Yro)

289 All Hail Eris, did like Rule 7. But the jibe about the corpses is also a hoot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:26 AM (deXW1)

290 Dreadnought is a cool word, design specs notwithstanding.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:21 AM (fuK7c)


It's also the name for what's become the standard form factor of acoustic guitars, developed by the C. F. Martin company *points at nick*

It was named for the class of ship.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 11:26 AM (y87Qq)

291 'Morning, readers.

Stupid question: What differentiates a fantasy from "regular" fiction?
Posted by: creeper at July 22, 2018 09:50 AM (cOHsM)

I will take a shot at it. "Regular" fiction is set in the world as we know it, either in the present, or in some era of the past.

Fantasy is set either in an entirely made-up world, or in our world except that magic and supernatural forces play a big role in the story.

In science fiction, there is usually some attempt to make the fantastical elements appear to be the logical outcome of physical elements acted upon by rational beings. In pure fantasy, those elements are simply given as a fait accompli, "well, there are dragons, and they fly, so there!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 11:27 AM (bNb8V)

292 Phony WaPo 'Conservative' Max Boot, a Useful Idiot for the Left: I Miss Obama And Would Take Him Back In A Nanosecond

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Max Boot is a true conservative.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (+y/Ru)

Das Boot?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:22 AM (Ydx5u)


In Maxi's case, I think the correct pronoun would be Die Boot.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:27 AM (cY3LT)

293 Or Maxie Dis Boot?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:27 AM (deXW1)

294 192:

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 10:53 AM (Izzlo)

Really good Texas history by T.R. Fehrenbach but I forget the title. It was written back in the '70s before the Long March momentum took hold.

He also wrote histories of Mexico ("Fire and Blood") and the Comanches. Interesting to me, the latter, also written in the '70s has be re-titled from "Comanches: The History of a People" to "Comanches: The Destruction of a People".

Everything of his that I have read has been more than worthwhile.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 22, 2018 11:27 AM (evgyj)

295 "Twain is just flaying Cooper! "

He's like Captian Hate without all the cusswords.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:28 AM (UdKB7)

296 I just made the mistake of looking at Daily KOS. They had a Twatter screen cap. of a giant yard sign that said: "Vote Like Black Women." Below the sign, it has the following stat: 94% of black women voted for Hillary.(!). It's (slightly) amazing to me, considering her (and Bill's) comments re: black "animals" needing to be locked up. I guess free s**t trumps even racism.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:29 AM (ty7RM)

297 Rule 34, porn or sexual material exist for every conceivable topic

=

Oh, i see...i mean, I understand now.

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 11:29 AM (bUjCl)

298 224 Holy Shit, what a pair of windy, pompous, mind-bogglingly boring books. I have almost lost my mind reading this endless drivel.


Heh. Last of the Mohicans was one of my free downloads yesterday. I guess I won't prioritize it.
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Bandersnatch, I would recommend you read it. I quite enjoyed the series, but only read three of the five. 19th Century literature can be a bit too wordy for our tastes. The worse in these categories would be Dickens and Hugo. Not only are they long winded, they are covered in insufferable treacle.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)

299 >>I still maintain that Page is/was an FBI informant and that is why he has never been charged with anything.

Well you are correct. Less than a year before this warrant was taken accusing Page of being a Russian spy, he was working for the FBI as an under cover asset getting information that resulted in the conviction of a Russian spy.

That's been one of the big problems all along. The FBI knew he wasn't a Russian spy but they lied to the FISC just to get the warrant to surveil the Trump campaign.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 11:31 AM (/tuJf)

300 Of course Tiger will win since I wanted anybody but him to win.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:31 AM (2DOZq)

301 The thing about that Cooper essay by Twain is it affects everything you read after it. Yes he is being a dick but is there any part that is not true?

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:33 AM (UdKB7)

302 Of course Tiger will win since I wanted anybody but him to win.
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What's the leader board look like. Also, is this tournament considered a "major"? I think he's one win away from tying Arnold's major wins. Might watch some golf this afternoon instead of painting.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:33 AM (ty7RM)

303 BurtTC

We had a farm accident in Kansas this week. An 84 year old farmer was moving a tractor and implement attachment. His 79 year old wife was helping him. The story is vague here, but he ran her over. Killed her right there.

He could not see her, and only heard brief screams. Maybe she slipped. He is not feeling very well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 11:33 AM (hyuyC)

304 The woman who survived is apparently saying she wishes she was dead, that she had died with the rest of her family.

Horrible.
Posted by: BurtTC


She lost her husband and her three kids, aged 9, 7 and 1.

I am finding this particular story to be a test of my rather strong faith in God.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 11:34 AM (+BKF+)

305 227 O M - twitchy.com 7-year-old-chess-prodigy cant compete at world championship-in-tunisia-because shes israeli

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 11:06 AM (pHfeF)


Do you have a link for this?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:35 AM (I3yXU)

306 josephistan @ 192, one of the more interesting and readable books about the Texas War for Independence is Texian Illiad: A Military History, by Stephen Hardin.
I rather like it because of the illustrations of various participants, and some very good maps.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 22, 2018 11:35 AM (xnmPy)

307 What's the leader board look like. Also, is this tournament considered a "major"? I think he's one win away from tying Arnold's major wins. Might watch some golf this afternoon instead of painting.


Tiger is currently in the lead. The Open is not only a major, it's pretty much the major.

Arnold won 7, Jack won 18. Tiger is at 14, but stalled for a while.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)

308 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:33 AM (ty7RM)

British Open is a major and he has 14 major titles second only to Jack Nicklaus's 18.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 22, 2018 11:36 AM (2DOZq)

309 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:35 AM (I3yXU)

Twitchy

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 22, 2018 11:36 AM (R+1Bq)

310 What's the leader board look like. Also, is this tournament considered a "major"? I think he's one win away from tying Arnold's major wins. Might watch some golf this afternoon instead of painting.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:33 AM (ty7RM)

It's the British Open so yes a major and at the moment he is alone atop the leader board

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:36 AM (Ydx5u)

311 306 josephistan @ 192, one of the more interesting and readable books about the Texas War for Independence is Texian Illiad: A Military History, by Stephen Hardin.
I rather like it because of the illustrations of various participants, and some very good maps.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 22, 2018 11:35 AM (xnmPy)

Good maps go a long way.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 11:37 AM (Izzlo)

312 She lost her husband and her three kids, aged 9, 7 and 1.
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Our local weather guy was on our FM Talk station. They asked him about the "suddenness" of the storm. He said he tracked this cell for 150 miles, from KC, SE all the way to the lake. They should have known about it. He said it was a really mean looking storm.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:37 AM (ty7RM)

313 I started Crucible of Souls by Mitchell Hogan

I am enjoying it so far, I like how you really don't know who is the Bad King or Emperor, I mean if you're on the low end of the pole how would you know who is goodor bad, maybe everyone is bad and you choose the less evil.

The only reason I got the book is because someone here mentioned Audible had a buy on get one free offer.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 22, 2018 11:37 AM (dKiJG)

314 Our local weather guy was on our FM Talk station. They asked him about the "suddenness" of the storm. He said he tracked this cell for 150 miles, from KC, SE all the way to the lake. They should have known about it. He said it was a really mean looking storm.


I'd been wondering about that. There's no way those boats were fit for those conditions, I'd wondered about the "suddenness".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:39 AM (fuK7c)

315 It's the British Open so yes a major and at the moment he is alone atop the leader board
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Ok, so they'll probably be done shortly. If it's St. Andrews, Tiger has had good luck there IIRC.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:39 AM (ty7RM)

316 freaked

The length of the Leatherstocking Tales bring out the taming of the frontier. There were 5 books total. It is cultural history as story. Although a twig snapping during a stealth approach was an annoying trope.

Natty Bumppo was a man with love in his heart, but no requited passion. Quite pre-Victorian. He seems a Rousseau-approved hero. Almost.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 11:41 AM (hyuyC)

317 @315

Not St. Andrews, but a very similar style of course.

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 11:41 AM (TL2pK)

318 I'd been wondering about that. There's no way those boats were fit for those conditions,
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Yeah, re-purposed landing craft. They have a lot of exposure above the water, so vulnerable to high winds.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:41 AM (ty7RM)

319 Our local weather guy was on our FM Talk station. They asked him about the "suddenness" of the storm. He said he tracked this cell for 150 miles, from KC, SE all the way to the lake. They should have known about it. He said it was a really mean looking storm.


I'd been wondering about that. There's no way those boats were fit for those conditions, I'd wondered about the "suddenness".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 11:39 AM (fuK7c)


The storm was supposed to keep its strength, all the way from southern Missouri, up to and through here, the St. Louis area. But we never got it! It just went poof before it hit us.

But it was all over the forecast, this was going to get ugly.

It did. Down there, where it was expected to. Just not here.

And I'm not really a big weather watcher.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:42 AM (cY3LT)

320 3. They require that the personages in a tale shall be alive, except in the case of corpses, and that always the reader shall be able to tell the corpses from the others. But this detail has often been overlooked in the "Deerslayer" tale.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:43 AM (gUCYC)

321 Somehow the topic of Portugal came up here last week.
(I think it was between discussions of Robert Mueller's nose and tips on A/C repair.)

Needing a short, purse-packable read to take to the car repair place, I grabbed C R Boxer's Four Centuries of Portuguese Expansion, 1415-1625: A Succinct History.

When he says succinct, he means it. Less than 100 pages. But it's an excellent introduction to one of the most forgotten but most important countries in European exploration and colonization.

Highly recommended --- if you can find it at a decent price. (Alibris has it starting at 11 bucks.) Most college libraries have it too, as it is something of a classic.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 11:44 AM (0jtPF)

322 Speith is hanging in there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:44 AM (Ydx5u)

323 >>>The CW exacted a huge toll on this country that we're still paying even today but I think the right side won. Put another way, I would rather have to deal with the seemingly never-ceasing expansion of federal power, which is the legacy of that war, than to have slavery embedded in our country as a permanent feature.

If the South had planned to up the amount of slaves they were importing, there would have been a Civil War sooner or later, much worse than is going on in our inner cities today.

The South, like the CoC today is willing to destroy the country for the short term benefits of cheap labor. Maybe we should have let them secede and contain the damage. Of course that's Monday morning quarterbacking on my part.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 11:44 AM (/qEW2)

324 I'd been wondering about that. There's no way those boats were fit for those conditions,
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Yeah, re-purposed landing craft. They have a lot of exposure above the water, so vulnerable to high winds.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:41 AM (ty7RM)


There's video out there, someone recorded on their phone, people inside a building on shore, showing two of the boats floundering. I don't even know which one is the capsized craft, but one of them was literally turned all the way around in the water, as it was trying to head for shore.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:45 AM (cY3LT)

325 gunga galunga!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 11:45 AM (Pg+x7)

326 "It is cultural history as story."

I should read the rest of it since I've only read LOTM but it would no doubt be tainted by Twain. I'm gonna check it out on Gutenberg though.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:46 AM (UdKB7)

327 295 "Twain is just flaying Cooper! "

He's like Captian Hate without all the cusswords.
Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:28 AM (UdKB7)
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He's Cannibal Bob without the grass skirt and barbecue tongs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:46 AM (gUCYC)

328 From what I've seen of the footage, it looks like the pilot of the Duck was keeping the bow headed into the wind. I can understand not wanting breach but it might have been best to head down wind towards shore as fast as possible. The camera suggests land was fairly close at hand. Don't know. Any coxswains here have an opinion?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 11:47 AM (vV/gB)

329 "Twain is just flaying Cooper! "

He's like Captian Hate without all the cusswords.
Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:28 AM (UdKB7)
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He's Cannibal Bob without the grass skirt and barbecue tongs.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:46 AM (gUCYC)


He's CBD, undressing Cooper, without the ottoman.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:48 AM (cY3LT)

330 But I did find this gem:

https://jalopnik.com/the-trabant-is-the-best-commie-car-made-of-cotton-weve-1788844883

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 10:09 AM (gUCYC)

That was a great article! Thanks for finding it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 11:48 AM (bNb8V)

331 Speith is hanging in there
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I can only imagine the cheer-leading by NBC. It's going to be all Tiger, all the time, from now on.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:48 AM (ty7RM)

332 From what I've seen of the footage, it looks like the pilot of the Duck was keeping the bow headed into the wind. I can understand not wanting breach but it might have been best to head down wind towards shore as fast as possible. The camera suggests land was fairly close at hand. Don't know. Any coxswains here have an opinion?
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 11:47 AM (vV/gB)


One surviver said the pilot told the passengers there was no need for lifejackets... until it was too late.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:49 AM (cY3LT)

333 After Mass this a.m., the Priest said he was sick and tired about "Russia, Russia, Russia" and he wished the government would spend all that wasted money on feeding America's veterans who need it.

The whole Church erupted in loud applause.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 11:49 AM (EoRCO)

334 Morning Horde,
So. James Varney lurks here...or to us slack-jawed droolers, it's Mr. Varney.
How cool is that!!!???
I guess we do need to wear pants now.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2018 11:49 AM (0tfLf)

335 Any coxswains here have an opinion?
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Did someone page me?

Posted by: Shep! at July 22, 2018 11:50 AM (ty7RM)

336 The Steven Tyler interview looks interesting.

Posted by: Chopped Liver at July 22, 2018 11:51 AM (PUmDY)

337 309 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:35 AM (I3yXU)

Twitchy

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 22, 2018 11:36 AM (R+1Bq)


Got it, thank you.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:51 AM (I3yXU)

338 299 >>I still maintain that Page is/was an FBI informant and that is why he has never been charged with anything.

There's also the bit about nothing Page did ever actually violated any US law. Hard to charge someone when that's the case. Also, and I've watched a couple of his interviews, he has always been absolutely honest and open about every trip he ever took, everyone he ever talked to in Moscow, and everything he did. They can't charge him with lying because he's always been honest.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 11:51 AM (V2Yro)

339 I read the Twain essay on Cooper before I read any of Cooper's books. I had assumed Twain was being over the top and a bit playful. Then I read some Cooper and discovered Twain was being gentle.


Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 11:51 AM (V+03K)

340 "From what I've seen of the footage, it looks like the pilot of the Duck was keeping the bow headed into the wind. "

I think that he figured that if he stopped or turned it would sink immediately.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 11:52 AM (UdKB7)

341 *people voluntarilly go and look at picture of HRC ?? how odd...*

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM


It was a rick-roll with caption of 'dress porn'. You new here?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (LOgQ4)

342 Sci-fi may handwave it's explanations, but it least it gives a story with the background context of there being an explanation, unlike fantasy which presents its elements as brute facts. Kind of like the difference between Lovecraft's cosmic horror and older forms of horror (like Dracula or other monsters). I've been re-reading some Clark Ashton Smith stories lately. He has a few sci-fi tales thrown in there, and you can always tell them apart from the rest of his work.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (/qEW2)

343 333 After Mass this a.m., the Priest said he was sick and tired about "Russia, Russia, Russia" and he wished the government would spend all that wasted money on feeding America's veterans who need it.

The whole Church erupted in loud applause.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 11:49 AM (EoRCO)


See, it's IRL episodes like this that make me think that the Democrats have no idea what's coming to hit them in November.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (I3yXU)

344 well Tigers about to fall out of the lead, but how much is yet to determined

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (Ydx5u)

345 206
I consider FDR, not Lincoln, to be the prez most responsible for the
growth of big nanny state federal gubmint. Everything Lincoln did was a
wartime measure intended to be temporary, whereas FDR was attempting in
his own way to "fundamentally transform" the US economy and society.
Also, it would appear, based on things Lincoln said shortly before his
death, that his Reconstruction policy for the South would have been
significantly less harsh and pervasive than what his successors
implemented. Though I suppose that Lincoln's Reconstruction policy is a
lot like JFK's Vietnam policy in that historians can read what they want
into it because it never came to fruition....

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 10:58 AM (9WuX0)

I would not count too much on that. Lincoln was an advocate of the American System. That was a type of corporatism in which the federal government taxed the shit out of areas and businesses that they did not like and then used the money for improvements favoring businesses and areas that held favor with the government.

The South was totally against that system and for the most part it did not get done the way he wanted. After the South succeeded he implemented it with the big government allotments to the railroads.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 11:54 AM (mpXpK)

346 341 *people voluntarilly go and look at picture of HRC ?? how odd...*

Posted by: runner at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM

It was a rick-roll with caption of 'dress porn'. You new here?
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Its a game much like Where's Waldo, except we are trying to spot Where's the Colostomy Bag or Exoskeleton.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 11:54 AM (vV/gB)

347 Not exactly a book but linked over at Insty Andrew McCarthy is embarrassed because he said the FBI couldn't do what it did with the Steele dossier. Like what we all said they did.

Is it just me or does he end up being surprised a lot?

It's not just you. For an expert, he sure is wrong a lot.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 11:13 AM (/tuJf)


His inability to connect more than two dots at a time is getting impossible to overlook. This isn't the Manhattan project for fuck's sake.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 11:55 AM (y7DUB)

348 The NY Times is all concerned and stuff about the current lack of diversity in romance novels.


So essentially the NYT is pissed that the free market is working. People are writing books that sell, and not writing books that don't.
I wonder who they will assign to write the books needed to fill the void...all the while keeping said writers on salary?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2018 11:55 AM (0tfLf)

349 Cannibal Bob also has an apron that reads "Beware the Chef"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:56 AM (deXW1)

350 We're told that President Trump doesn't accept Brennan, Comey and Clapper's thoughtful and balanced assessment of Russian Meddling. But it's really Robert Mueller who doesn't.

The Intelligence Community clearly state in their FISA warrant application that one Carter Page is a Russian Agent, committing espionage against America. The man is a meanace to society. A threat to all that is good, decent, true and pure. Public Enemy #1, bent on destroying the American Way of Life.

He is so dangerous, they say, that they must put a roving wiretap on him and on anybody associated with him, even if that means the unprecendented and perilous step of wiretapping a presidential candidate and campaign. Justice Demands It! National Security Demands It! And Hillary Demands It! And You Know How She Is!

Yet Bob Mueller barely spoke to the guy. Page flits around without a care, giving national tv interviews, which is kind of odd for a dastardly Russian Super-Agent.

There are no charges against him and none pending. Yet he is the very cause of this massive counter-intelligence investigation, this plot against Democracy Itself!

So why won't Bob Mueller accept the assessment of our Beloved Intelligence Community?

Why, it's almost as if Carter Page was not a Russian Agent at all.

In fact, it seems like he's an American Agent, sent by the FBI. Or even some naif, blundering through an Inspector Clouseau-like investigation.

In either case, it seems like his presence was used as an excuse to wiretap the opposing party's candidate. And probably on an ex post facto basis.

That is, they were probably wiretapping the Trumps for months, if not years, before Page showed up at the campaign's doorstep.

But that would be criminal, seditious and un-American.

Must just be a coincidence.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 22, 2018 11:56 AM (Ndje9)

351 I guess we do need to wear pants now.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2018 11:49 AM (0tfLf)
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Still pantsless as of two minutes shy of noon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 11:57 AM (gUCYC)

352 well Tigers about to fall out of the lead, but how much is yet to determined

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (Ydx5u)



Yahoo has a "Tiger Tracker" on its home page. The obsession over that guy is ridiculous.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 11:57 AM (SiINZ)

353 The whole Church erupted in loud applause.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 11:49 AM (EoRCO)

See, it's IRL episodes like this that make me think that the Democrats have no idea what's coming to hit them in November.
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That's what I'm sensing.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 11:57 AM (vV/gB)

354 His inability to connect more than two dots at a time is getting impossible to overlook. This isn't the Manhattan project for fuck's sake.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 11:55 AM (y7DUB)

If he's not faking, them I'm glad he's a FORMER prosecutor. Otherwise, I wouldn't put this dipshit in charge of taking a nap.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 22, 2018 11:58 AM (R+1Bq)

355 From what I've seen of the footage, it looks like the pilot of the Duck was keeping the bow headed into the wind.

That's what you would normally do. Head into the wind and by altering speed try to keep the bow up as high as possible. In a vehicle with that mass, I suspect that simply does not happen. So waves will break over the bow, and you're sunk.

It might have conceivably worked better to run away from the wind and take water over the stern. I'm not volunteering to test that theory.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 11:58 AM (LOgQ4)

356 Needing a short, purse-packable read to take to the car repair place, I grabbed C R Boxer's Four Centuries of Portuguese Expansion, 1415-1625: A Succinct History.
When he says succinct, he means it. Less than 100 pages. But it's an excellent introduction to one of the most forgotten but most important countries in European exploration and colonization.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 11:44 AM (0jtPF)


It's weird to think that back then, Portugal bestrode the world like a colossus.

And now they're just a socialist backwater. I think they mainly make their money from tourism now.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:58 AM (I3yXU)

357 >>There's also the bit about nothing Page did ever actually violated any US law. Hard to charge someone when that's the case.

They had no intention of charging him with anything. The FBI knew from Day 1 that he wasn't a Russian spy because he was spying for the FBI.

They needed an excuse to surveil the Trump campaign. That was the entire reason for the warrant.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

358 well Tigers about to fall out of the lead, but how much is yet to determined

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (Ydx5u)



Yahoo has a "Tiger Tracker" on its home page. The obsession over that guy is ridiculous.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 11:57 AM (SiINZ)


Eldrick's meltdowns are hilarious because of how many of his spank monkeys are horrible people.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 11:59 AM (y7DUB)

359 Yahoo has a "Tiger Tracker" on its home page. The obsession over that guy is ridiculous.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 11:57 AM (SiINZ)

It's sports drama on a lazy Sunday. Enjoy it. I'd rather watch this shit now than that commie nfl or nba crap

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (Ydx5u)

360 Speaking of mass....are there a lot or at least a number of Catholics up in this joint?

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (TL2pK)

361 Re: the DUKW disaseter. The greatest design flaw is that the roof is fixed, meaning that if it sinks suddenly (as it did) the passengers will get trapped against the inside of the roof as it goes down, and pulled to the bottom along with the craft . Even those with life jackets on. Only those sitting right next to the edge had a chance of getting out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (V2Yro)

362 How to sink the FBI about Carter Page...


"So Director Wray are you telling me the FBI had a Russian spy acting as a spy and did not discover he was a double agent until a year later when the media reported it?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 12:01 PM (deXW1)

363 Yahoo has a "Tiger Tracker" on its home page. The obsession over that guy is ridiculous.


If you think so. He came out and changed the game of golf. He shredded courses so bad that they had to "Tiger-proof" them.

Now a lot of players have his distance, his physical fitness, and his discipline, but only because he showed them how.

So you've got a guy on track to be easily the best golfer ever and he gets sidetracked when his wife checks his cellphone history. It's been years and now he's coming back, no longer young.

It's one of the best stories in sports.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 22, 2018 12:02 PM (fuK7c)

364 The original DUKW came with a canvas roof and stays to protect cargo/personnel. It was never used during landing operations for obvious reasons. Ashore, as a GP tactical vehicle is was used.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 12:03 PM (vV/gB)

365 Heard today from a local politico that it seems that Casey Cagle worm is going to lose

Posted by: Chopped Liver at July 22, 2018 12:03 PM (2mXfd)

366 Hell, it's only in my lifetime that the practice, of asking a girl's father for her hand in marriage died out.

Posted by: Captain Hate
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I asked my late wife's father for her hand, literally. He said, *Why not, you've had the rest of her.*

Future wife and MIL were not amused.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2018 12:04 PM (9rIkM)

367 348 The NY Times is all concerned and stuff about the current lack of diversity in romance novels.
So essentially the NYT is pissed that the free market is working. People are writing books that sell, and not writing books that don't.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2018 11:55 AM (0tfL


It was a strange piece. On the one hand, they had quotes from the usual suspects bemoaning the "lack of diversity" in romance fiction, but then followed it with successful minority romance authors and successful romance novels that had minority characters in them.

It was if the unstated goal was to drive out European authors and characters completely, and they were just mad it hadn't happened yet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 12:04 PM (I3yXU)

368 TP, I am a mackerel snapper.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2018 12:05 PM (9rIkM)

369 Hope Never Dies: an Obama Biden Mystery. shoot me.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 12:05 PM (kjW1F)

370 i'm a golfer

bernard langer, still duffing in his 40's, receives polite applause. nobody asks if he's a nazi. why? he's a golfer.

rory mcelroy wins an open. he's from northern ireland, but no-one asks if he's catholic or protestant. why? he's a golfer.

when tiger woods was flying high in the 90's the clintons tried to get him on their podium for their political advancement. and tiger said no. why? he's a golfer.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 12:05 PM (Pg+x7)

371 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 12:05 PM (mpXpK)

372 Speaking of mass....are there a lot or at least a number of Catholics up in this joint?

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (TL2pK)



(peers out from catacomb) Who wants to know?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 12:06 PM (SiINZ)

373 In Maxi's case, I think the correct pronoun would be Die Boot.

I'm pretty sure 'Das Boot' is the correct form for the neuter gender.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 22, 2018 12:06 PM (87ijN)

374 It was a strange piece. On the one hand, they had quotes from the usual suspects bemoaning the "lack of diversity" in romance fiction, but then followed it with successful minority romance authors and successful romance novels that had minority characters in them.
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It may come as a surprise the NYTs, but folks with low IQs don't do that much reading.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 12:06 PM (vV/gB)

375 I went to the vigil Mass last night, so my Sunday is free

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 12:06 PM (kjW1F)

376 294
Really good Texas history by T.R. Fehrenbach but I forget the title. It was written back in the '70s before the Long March momentum took hold.

He also wrote histories of Mexico ("Fire and Blood") and the Comanches. Interesting to me, the latter, also written in the '70s has be re-titled from "Comanches: The History of a People" to "Comanches: The Destruction of a People"......

Posted by: 11B40 at July 22, 2018 11:27 AM (evgyj)
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I've read his history of Mexico. I'll see if I can find the Texas and Comanche books you recommend.

Your point about the Long March is spot on. I favor older books simply because they are not loaded with the anti-Euro/white agenda.
They may have their own biases, to be sure, but the standards of scholarship and fairness, even in popular works, are much higher.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 12:07 PM (0jtPF)

377 See, it's IRL episodes like this that make me think that the Democrats have no idea what's coming to hit them in November.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:53 AM (I3yXU)
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They don't know because they never bother to ask. That has been a major point of two good books, Dana Loesch's "Flyover Nation" and Kayleigh McEnany's "The New American Revolution". Trump prevailed because he had a deep understanding of, and exposure to, the base, which neither the Dems nor the GOPe did.

To ask is to chance exposure to dangerous ideas, or worse, give legitimacy to them. Why risk contamination?

There is no way a real journalist with a modicum of curiosity wouldn't have found that out.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:07 PM (gUCYC)

378 356 Needing a short, purse-packable read to take to the car repair place, I grabbed C R Boxer's Four Centuries of Portuguese Expansion, 1415-1625: A Succinct History.
When he says succinct, he means it. Less than 100 pages. But it's an excellent introduction to one of the most forgotten but most important countries in European exploration and colonization.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 11:44 AM (0jtPF)

It's weird to think that back then, Portugal bestrode the world like a colossus.

And now they're just a socialist backwater. I think they mainly make their money from tourism now.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 11:58 AM (I3yXU)


They were the first in and last out of Africa & India, fighting wars into the 1970s to hold onto their empire.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:08 PM (Izzlo)

379 Enjoying a coffee and reading comments here before I open the paper and read the lies about the FISA warrant. Predictions:
No mention of how it lets FBI spy on two hops away, in other words everybody in Trump campaign, including Trump.
No mention of Page former role as FBI spy.
No apology for all the *without any proof* horse crap they laid on Trump say he was being wiretapped,
No mention of the stonewalling of the Judicial Watch FOIA by DOJ.
No mention of how DOJ has used redactions to hide things that are embarrassing, not soucrces and methods, etc.
Blah blah blah

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 22, 2018 12:08 PM (Vs607)

380 227 https://tinyurl.com/y9lkyxo8
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 11:08 AM (pHfeF)

Chess is a "sport" now? Who knew?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:09 PM (bNb8V)

381 ... (truth in advertising - i'm not a golfer.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 22, 2018 12:09 PM (Pg+x7)

382 360 Speaking of mass....are there a lot or at least a number of Catholics up in this joint?
Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (TL2pK)

waves to Ticked Pink

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:09 PM (Izzlo)

383 They had no intention of charging him with anything. The FBI knew from Day 1 that he wasn't a Russian spy because he was spying for the FBI.

They needed an excuse to surveil the Trump campaign. That was the entire reason for the warrant.

Posted by: JackStraw


Precisely this.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 12:10 PM (+BKF+)

384 >>Re: the DUKW disaseter. The greatest design flaw is that the roof is fixed, meaning that if it sinks suddenly (as it did) the passengers will get trapped against the inside of the roof as it goes down, and pulled to the bottom along with the craft . Even those with life jackets on. Only those sitting right next to the edge had a chance of getting out.

Makes it more difficult to get out but that wasn't why the boat foundered and sank. Duck boats aren't really boats. Not really automobiles either. They are a compromise and aren't really optimized for either task.

They were designed to go from point A to point B and carry a heavy load. They weren't designed as general purpose boats with any real sea keeping characteristics.

The only way to safely operate those boats in any sort of sea is not to leave shore.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (/tuJf)

385 They were the first in and last out of Africa & India, fighting wars into the 1970s to hold onto their empire.
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:08 PM (Izzlo)
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And per "Cod", they were fishing off of North America long before any of those flash-in-the-pan pantalooned popinjays were there.

But the Portuguese didn't talk.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (gUCYC)

386 Posted by: 11B40 at July 22, 2018 10:42 AM (evgyj)

You can get both of their autobiographies for free on Kindle since they're public domain.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (phT8I)

387 378---They were the first in and last out of Africa & India, fighting wars into the 1970s to hold onto their empire.
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2018 12:08 PM (Izzlo)
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Yep.
At the time Boxer's little book was written (1970) they still owned Angola, Mozambique, Macao, etc.

BTW, the dates for the "four centuries" are 1415 to 1825, not 1625, as I miswrote it. Because math!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (0jtPF)

388 JS, the Days Between from Boulder is very good

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:14 PM (PUmDY)

389 They had no intention of charging him with anything. The FBI knew from Day 1 that he wasn't a Russian spy because he was spying for the FBI.

They needed an excuse to surveil the Trump campaign. That was the entire reason for the warrant.

Posted by: JackStraw


Precisely this.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2018 12:10 PM (+BKF+)

And yet the NYT is already out accusing PDT of claiming vindication "WITHOUT EVIDENCE." They love that phrase, but they never use it when discussing the Collusion accusation against Trump.
The NYT article also uses the usual..."Republicans SEIZED on the release of documents...."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2018 12:16 PM (y8Foj)

390 "There's video out there, someone recorded on their phone, people inside a building on shore, showing two of the boats floundering."

The "building" was a full size paddlewheeler called the Branson Belle which has dinner/entertainment cruises. I THINK it stayed at the dock because of the bad weather but one of its passengers reported seeing someone from the sunken Duck clinging to the paddlewheel of their boat... also there were some folks on that boat who jumped into the water to rescue people from the sunken Duck.

"But it was all over the forecast, this was going to get ugly."

And the driver/captain of the Duck, according to one of the survivors, knew the storm was coming because he reversed the usual order of the tour (land tour first, water ride at the end) hoping to get the water portion in before the storm hit. He choose poorly....

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 12:16 PM (9WuX0)

391 "are there a lot or at least a number of Catholics up in this joint?"

(raises hand) Going to the local Last Chance Mass at 5 p.m. tonight... which I suppose makes me practically an apostate to some :-)

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 12:19 PM (9WuX0)

392 Re: Fenimore Cooper, take his story as a cautionary warning on snarky replies to spousal complaints. It seems he was reading a contemporary work and commented to his wife "I could do better than this!" (experience leading me to believe he had made the same comment multiple times) His loving but exasperated wife rashly said, "well, why don't you?" So it really is Mrs. Cooper's fault.

Considering he really didn't have much literary training or skill, he still managed to write stories that stay in the cultural mindset. Countless number of movies made. Sure the prose is purple and everything Mark Twain says is true. So ask yourself--why weren't these stories forgotten the year they were published? Something in there is a true, resonant tale despite the verbiage.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 22, 2018 12:20 PM (L59/U)

393 you've got a guy on track to be easily the best golfer ever

When did you first pay attention to golf? 1990?

He was a superb golfer who is in the argument as the best ever but "easily the best" betrays an ignorance of just how difficult the game gets when you age.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 12:21 PM (y7DUB)

394 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 10:56 AM (hMwEB)

The books are *very* different. Not bad, but the characters and their lives bear almost no resemblance.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2018 12:23 PM (phT8I)

395 Yeah, re-purposed landing craft. They have a lot of exposure above the water, so vulnerable to high winds.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 22, 2018 11:41 AM (ty7RM)

Unless they have been adding ringers to the fleet, these vessels are Ducks. That's the nickname for the GM-built DUKW amphibious 6X6 truck, which is a counterpart to the CCKW standard 6X6 truck. They don't have a lot of freeboard, nor do they make much speed in the water. So, in a bad chop, they can take on water faster than the bilge pumps can pump it overboard, and down they go.

The term "duck boat" is an ignorant neologism.

Sounds like, given the weather conditions, the Duck should never have put into the lake. Seeing as it did, the operator should have insisted upon all the passengers donning life jackets as soon as the chop arose.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:25 PM (bNb8V)

396 Oh yeah, I was poking around Wikipedia, as one will, and found out that there was a Canadian-American explorer and aviatrix named Aloha Wanderwell, which is the perfect name for a loose-footed gal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Wanderwell

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:25 PM (gUCYC)

397 "Something in there is a true, resonant tale despite the verbiage."

In general, art is good if you like it and it sucks if you don't. If enough people don't think it sucks it sticks around.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 12:26 PM (UdKB7)

398 But the Portuguese didn't talk.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 22, 2018 12:11 PM (gUCYC)


The impression I got from Cod was that they might have told, if anyone had bothered to ask, but nobody took them seriously enough. Or was that the Basques?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:29 PM (y87Qq)

399 This whole conceit that the way you look is so important that you are only comfortable seeing others who look like you, is so frustrating. And racist.
If you are reading a book, it is to escape the world you live in. If you want to see the world you live in, you put down the book, stand up, and look out your window.
Besides, there is no way in Hades that I want to actually live in the worlds of the type of books I read. No desire to meet Elric's Sword of Low Atmospheric Pressure.

Posted by: Aeric at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (ZbgGv)

400 "the operator should have insisted upon all the passengers donning life jackets as soon as the chop arose."

Did the jackets contribute to the victims being stuck inside? I'm a diver and pretty good swimmer and maybe I could get out of that and maybe not. I would probably take my chances without the vest though. Maybe hold on to it but not wear it so I could let go if needed.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (UdKB7)

401 Tiger's ball just landed in my backyard. I'm off to pick up Notah at the airport.

Posted by: ro-man at July 22, 2018 12:30 PM (RuIsu)

402 Still pantsless as of two minutes shy of noon.


Posted by: All Hail Eris,


Go on.........

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 12:33 PM (2s3aR)

403 372 Speaking of mass....are there a lot or at least a number of Catholics up in this joint?

Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (TL2pK)


I confess. I are a Catholic. Catholic moron, to be precise.

Posted by: Aeric at July 22, 2018 12:33 PM (ZbgGv)

404 Re: the DUKW disaseter. The greatest design flaw is that the roof is fixed, meaning that if it sinks suddenly (as it did) the passengers will get trapped against the inside of the roof as it goes down, and pulled to the bottom along with the craft . Even those with life jackets on. Only those sitting right next to the edge had a chance of getting out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (V2Yro)

The video I saw appeared to show an open-top DUKW. If one had a DUKW with a solidly-built, fully-enclosed canopy, waves could break right over it, and it would remain afloat. If just a shade canopy with open sides, no help there.

DUKW's were never intended to cope with surf.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:34 PM (bNb8V)

405 Elric's Sword of Low Atmospheric Pressure. SLAP!

Posted by: Aeric at July 22, 2018 12:35 PM (ZbgGv)

406 "Did the jackets contribute to the victims being stuck inside?"

In this case, no, because (according to the MO Highway Patrol accident/incident report) none of the dead were found wearing them and none of the survivors. But the life jackets have had that effect in other DUKW incidents.

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 12:39 PM (9WuX0)

407 Eris, thanks for the link to Aloha.

The Mann Act, so the FBI was trying to "mann-splain" to her?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 12:43 PM (deXW1)

408 Posted by: Puddin Head at July 22, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)

Whittaker Chambers credited Les Miserable and Hugo's default belief of an existent, active, and loving God with giving him the concept of eternal truth that eventually led him to look beyond the worship of Self and Party of communism. From what he wrote I got the impression that Hugo and Dickens were the only fiction he was allowed. He commented that Dickens wasn't bad, but didn't have the same belief in God and redemption and thus wasn't as helpful later in life.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2018 12:49 PM (phT8I)

409 I've loaded up John C. Wright's "Superluminal: The World Armada" in case the next few days with my Webelos at scout camp leave me any time or energy for reading.
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You are going to love it.

Btw. I am enjoying your books. Read both of them in series so far. Very nice work. Keep it up!

Posted by: Simplemind at July 22, 2018 01:03 PM (ZuGkg)

410 Whittaker Chambers credited Les Miserable and Hugo's default belief of an existent, active, and loving God with giving him the concept of eternal truth that eventually led him to look beyond the worship of Self and Party of communism.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2018 12:49 PM (phT8I)


In his book Witness, there's a vignette of him describing how he was sitting at the breakfast table looking at his baby daughter in her high chair, and marveling at the complex folds and curves of her ear, and then, on the spot, concluding that something like that, so beautiful and intricate, could NOT have come about by chance and that's how he came to believe in God.

A very moving story.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (I3yXU)

411 So ask yourself--why weren't these stories forgotten the year they were published? Something in there is a true, resonant tale despite the verbiage.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase
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Ever read Carwin the Biloquist. Very early American fiction. Truly awful.

Posted by: Simplemind at July 22, 2018 01:06 PM (ZuGkg)

412 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 22, 2018 01:04 PM (I3yXU)

My reading of Witness was eight years ago, but my memory of it is Hugo didn't lead him directly to belief in God but more made it possible for him (years later) to experience the cognitive dissonance that led him to break with communism.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2018 01:14 PM (phT8I)

413 I came across a biography of and some books by journalist Martha Gellhorn. They sound interesting. Has anyone read /have an opinion?

She was the third wife of Ernest Hemingway and reportedly the only woman at Omaha Beach the day after D-day, present as a reported but she ended up helping to carry stretchers of the wounded.

Like many journalists she seems somewhat lefty, but her courage and varied life experiences seem like they might make for good reads. Any morons here read her travel books or collections?

I'm considering a kindle purchase of some of her books. More on her life story here:
https://tinyurl.com/ycyzprdj

Posted by: Jade Sea at July 22, 2018 01:17 PM (0sWXw)

414 "I'm not sure what the fuss is about. If people are actually buying the new 'diverse' romance novels, then it sounds like the market is indeed taking care of a hitherto unmet demand."

This tracks with a deep-seated fear most of my liberal / progressive acquaintances seem to have: If there isn't a government program to provide something to the populace, then millions will be deprived of it and end up starving in a gutter.

Posted by: RNB at July 22, 2018 01:18 PM (DjjZJ)

415 'none of the dead were found wearing them and none of the survivors.'

Wow. So sad.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 01:20 PM (UdKB7)

416 360 Speaking of mass....are there a lot or at least a number of Catholics up in this joint?
Posted by: TickledPink at July 22, 2018 12:00 PM (TL2pK)

cradle, not very good, Catholic here

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 01:25 PM (hMwEB)

417 I would appreciate recommendations on any
biographies of General Philip Sheridan or General William Tecumseh
Sherman. I'm reading "Grant" by Ron CHernow and they come across as
kind of sketchy.
Posted by: 11B40 at July 22, 2018 10:42 AM (evgyj)


They both wrote autobiographies, and you can find them for free on Gutenberg.org

Also John S D Eisenhower wrote American General, about Gen. Sherman; I have never read it, it is on my list to get, but his history of the Mexican American war, So Far From God was decent.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 22, 2018 01:49 PM (2K6fY)

418 417 I would appreciate recommendations on any
biographies of General Philip Sheridan or General William Tecumseh
Sherman. I'm reading "Grant" by Ron CHernow and they come across as
kind of sketchy.
Posted by: 11B40 at July 22, 2018 10:42 AM (evgyj)
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"Sherman: Soldier, Realist, American" by B. Liddell Hart is extremely good. Originally published 1929.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 02:16 PM (WEBkv)

419 Glad folks got a kick out of the library - and Wodehouse is of course a master!
The matrushka doll of Clinton has, inside, Monica, Kathleen, Paula, Juanita and then Hillary.
The other one isn't Kissinger, it's Yeltsin with Gorby, Brezhnev, Krushyev, Stalin, Lenin inside.

Along other lines in the thread, Twain towers over Cooper (of course) and Tiger would have beaten Jack's record if he hadn't spent so much of his time wildcatting.

Hi, "Illiniweek!"

Hope everyone had had a great weekend.

Posted by: James Varney at July 22, 2018 02:19 PM (Ptg1/)

420 Also, on military history. I've got signed copies of Keegan's "Face of Battle," which is a superb book but also has an introduction that in many ways cracked open military history. Highly, highly recommended (along with his "Mask of Command" and many other books). The Eastern Front in WWII and Vietnam are my favorite areas there. Erickson's 2-volume Eastern Front history (Road to Stalingrad; Road to Berlin) is vast, Beevor's book on Stalingrad is very good. Richard Overy has a good survey, too, called "Russia's War." I'm reading a book by Chris Bellamy called "Absolute War," which is pretty good so far.

Posted by: James Varney at July 22, 2018 02:25 PM (Ptg1/)

421 Blake that could be a series. A minister/mechanic who battles demonically possessed appliances.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2018 11:02 AM (deXW1)

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Gary Larson covered it years ago with his cartoon, which I cannot find, "Appliance Faith Healers" or some such.

Anyway, Mom's A/C is working and all are rejoicing. Especially me.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 22, 2018 02:28 PM (WEBkv)

422 What are those black lacquered things with brass fittings that are mounted like wakazashi swords on display but are probably pipes?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 22, 2018 02:35 PM (2K6fY)

423 Opium pipes from Vietnam, Kindltot.

Posted by: James Varney at July 22, 2018 02:43 PM (Ptg1/)

424 as Tchatkis go, that's got my "evolution of the US mess-kit" beat all hollow.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 22, 2018 02:48 PM (2K6fY)

425 Arms race. Germans v. Brits. The Brits had long enjoyed supremacy of the sea. Then the Germans started building bigger, faster, ships, with bigger guns. So the Brits had to counter them. And hence the problem: If you build faster, you have to be lighter, if you are lighter, the bigger shells can more easily penetrate your armor, so if you build thicker armor you are slower, and thus more easily outmaneuvered, but if you have bigger guns you don't have to get as close to hit your target, and so on and so on and so on.

The Brits, with the Dreadnought class, chose lighter armor. They chose... poorly.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2018 11:16 AM (cY3LT)


Back from a nap.

That's not true, except the part about thicker German armor.

The Brits built Dreadnought first. Their guns were almost always bigger (and longer ranged), and the speeds were mostly equal. And the reasons for the losses at Jutland were poor magazine practice. There is no evidence that the Germans penetrated the main British armor, except possibly Invincible (which was at close range.)

That's the problem with "big pictures".The details are wrong. If you do it enough, before you know it, you're Karl Marx.

Posted by: George LeS at July 22, 2018 03:19 PM (59GGI)

426 ..Amazon counts 3 stars as a critical review..

Coming back into the thread late. I thought 3/5 stars would be considered average. No wonder my average students were so pissed to get a "C".

Posted by: motionview at July 22, 2018 03:29 PM (pYQR/)

427 195: re: Deerslayer
Mark Twain absolutely did not like Cooper. He wrote a few essays roasting, lampooning and harpooning Cooper. Then he told us how he really felt. You should check them out. See if you missed anything to dislike.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at July 22, 2018 03:44 PM (swldI)

428 Finished 13 Gun Salute, now I have to find something else to read.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 04:22 PM (pHfeF)

EMT 07/22/18

Wake me if anything happens.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Good Morning Morons today is Sunday, July 22, 2018. On this day in 1298 at the Battle of Falkirk King Edward I of England and his longbowmen defeated William Wallace and his Scottish schiltrons outside the town of Falkirk. One wonders if it truly was due to treachery by Robert the Bruce or was that just something that Mel Gibson threw in there?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

2 The perp involved in the Trader Joe's shooting has been apprehended. Police will not release his identity and there is no picture. That means the perp is either a black or Hispanic. Later Update: They now have a picture, he is black.


http://tinyurl.com/y7adoatm

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

3 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 22, 2018 05:59 AM (yN/cP)

4 Nothing happening Krak. Back to bed

Posted by: Jim Snyder at July 22, 2018 06:00 AM (7csuM)

5 Black counter protesters held their flag burning protest outside Mad Maxine's office despite her saying for them to stay away. The group they were supposed to be 'countering' were the 'Oath Keepers' who never showed up.

From their web site:


Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders, who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That oath, mandated by Article VI of the Constitution itself, is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and Oath Keepers declare that they will not obey unconstitutional orders, such as orders to disarm the American people, to conduct warrantless searches, or to detain Americans as 'enemy combatants' in violation of their ancient right to jury trial. See the Oath Keepers Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey for details.


http://tinyurl.com/yaffx8nc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

6 The Department of Justice has released documents relating to a FISA warrant against Carter Page, a former campaign adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump.


Though heavily redacted, the documents show that the infamous Steele Dossier was a major component of the 2016 surveillance warrant. The dossier was also a major component in subsequent renewals.




IOW the justification for the spying warrant was based on a pack of lies. Why are there no charges for the criminals who swore out this warrant based on lies? Falsifying information for a federal warrant is a felony.


http://tinyurl.com/y6vfzb2w

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

7 Khloe Kardashian apologizes to her fans for calling her sister a 'retard'. I guess that is supposed to be offensive now.


http://tinyurl.com/yan2o6uk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

8 Kavanaugh said way back in the past that the SCOTUS decision on the Nixon Watergate tapes may have been wrong. I'm sure the communists in the Senate will make a lot of hay with that.


http://tinyurl.com/yc6x6to6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

9 The NTSB has released a statement saying the MO Duck Boat set out on its tour in near hurricane force winds and 4 foot waves. I hope that company has some good lawyers.


http://tinyurl.com/yatfgggd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

10 Lurker here.
Love the news updates Vic!

Posted by: Jim Snyder at July 22, 2018 06:02 AM (7csuM)

11 An Obama judge has ruled that the DOJ can not revoke the citizenship of naturalized muzzie who was convicted of aiding terrorists. IIANM that IS a condition for which citizenship may be revoked.


http://tinyurl.com/y7kdk9pl

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

12 The group they were supposed to be 'countering' were the 'Oath Keepers' who never showed

Bummer.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 06:02 AM (LOgQ4)

13 BBC blames AGW scam for the current spat of high temperatures. BB says they are full of shit. So far the average daily high temp here in my yard for July is well below some past July months.


http://tinyurl.com/ya57zmmv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

14 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 22, 2018 06:02 AM (KCxzN)

15 The 5th circuit court of appeals has ruled that Lyingwatha's corrupt CFPB is unconstitutional and the President does have the authority to fire the President of the board. This phony board is nothing but a Democrat front group.


http://tinyurl.com/ybn2ny6h

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

16 Fake Republican Katshit commutes the life sentence of a convicted murderer for dubious reasons.


http://tinyurl.com/y7688j4v

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

17 Kameltoe Harris is being true to her communist leanings. She is sponsoring the 'Rent Relief Act' which would provide a refundable tax credits for people paying more than 30% of their income for rent. Remember, a refundable tax credit gives you a tax refund whether you pay any taxes or not. So this is just another give-away to her constituents, the FSA. 30% of your income for rent is common, especially when you include utilities as this bill does.


http://tinyurl.com/ya5e8bfk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

18 That disgraced Baltimore mayor is suing companies over the non-existent AGW scam. DeComio's suit got thrown out so she had to chime in. Continuous litigation is a favorite strategy of the environmentalists when they can't get their bogus laws passed. Companies sued by these assholes should sue to recover legal costs after they win.


http://tinyurl.com/ycy4ow55

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

19 Ramirez (repeat)


http://tinyurl.com/y79cmsod



And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

20 Wake me if anything happens.

Imitation of Jeff Sessionzzzzzzz is the sincerest form of flattery.

Posted by: RickZ at July 22, 2018 06:06 AM (8lsuS)

21 Howdy Hordlings. Been a while. But that's the life of a Traveling Man.

The corporation that I do a lot of work for just had to issue an apology to a M/F tranny for refusing to give him/her one of his/her hormone prescriptions. Also, the pharmacist who refused to serve the customer got canned.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at July 22, 2018 06:11 AM (zr4UB)

22 Probably getting close to Vic's neck o' the woods, being just above Rock Hill SC.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at July 22, 2018 06:13 AM (zr4UB)

23 Napped a few minutes, should have just stayed up

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:15 AM (pHfeF)

24 22
Probably getting close to Vic's neck o' the woods, being just above Rock Hill SC.

Posted by: Traveling Man at July 22, 2018 06:13 AM (zr4UB)

Rock Hill is over near Charlotte. That is a good 2 to 2.5 hour drive for me.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:17 AM (mpXpK)

25 I need a nap. Been working all night in a pharmacy painting and millwork. Started at 5:30 last night. Need toothpicks to prop my eyes open.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at July 22, 2018 06:21 AM (zr4UB)

26 One of these days need to go to SC

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:25 AM (pHfeF)

27 Didn't Page plead guilty to 'lying to the FIB'? Nothing about being a Russian spy or collusion, which it seems is what the warrant was about. So, are they admitting they got nuthin'?

Posted by: Derptastic at July 22, 2018 06:28 AM (DB16e)

28 One of these days need to go to SC

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:25 AM


In my mind I'm going to Carolina.

Posted by: James Tailer at July 22, 2018 06:30 AM (LOgQ4)

29 Good morning folks, thanks Vic.

Posted by: Sumdumchief at July 22, 2018 06:33 AM (v68hm)

30 My thinking is the Russians, if they really did get into the DNC server did so because they could not because they wanted to foil the election. They tried to get into the RNC server but failed.They no doubt take a shot at every American company and organization.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:35 AM (pHfeF)

31 Kameltoe Harris is being true to her communist leanings. She is sponsoring the 'Rent Relief Act' which would provide a refundable tax credits for people paying more than 30% of their income for rent.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:03 AM


Trump Term II vs. Kameltoe Harris
or
Trump Term II vs. Elizabeth Warren ?

Early night, either way.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 06:35 AM (LOgQ4)

32 Sometimes when get home I set a timer on my tablet for 15-20 minutes and nap, think it helps.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:37 AM (pHfeF)

33 27
Didn't Page plead guilty to 'lying to the FIB'? Nothing about being a
Russian spy or collusion, which it seems is what the warrant was about.
So, are they admitting they got nuthin'?

Posted by: Derptastic at July 22, 2018 06:28 AM (DB16e)

There has been no indictment of Crater Page or a plea from him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

34 Thankfully, even Democrats are seeing through this line of feces being smeared on their toast and called "butter", under the guise of "Democratic Socialism".

Perhaps parts of New York and California are incurable.

Note to all concerned. Please clear these areas. We may have to nuke them from orbit, just to be sure.

...or maybe collude with the Russians. They may want in on that.

-Who Wants Pancakes?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite at July 22, 2018 06:39 AM (Ckg4U)

35 Morning, gang

Posted by: fluffy at July 22, 2018 06:43 AM (cHbmY)

36 Finally poured 1st cup of coffee, should have made it 2 hours ago.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:46 AM (pHfeF)

37 Had pancakes last two days but could eat them again. Of course we would have maple syrup and just not tell CBD right?

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:48 AM (pHfeF)

38 Morning. Another coolish day for July. It's been a weird few days with a few more coming at us. Getting to 80 degrees (YAY) but the humidity is in the 90's overnight, and gets to 75 during the day.
The doors are starting to not want to close. I may have to turn on the air to dry out the house.

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 06:48 AM (8ikIW)

39 The NTSB has released a statement saying the MO Duck
Boat set out on its tour in near hurricane force winds and 4 foot
waves. I hope that company has some good lawyers.


http://tinyurl.com/yatfgggd


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:01 AM

---

You can't have enough insurance to cover something like that.
Having said that, I seriously doubt the insurance will pay a dime because the tour guide Company operated in a criminally reckless manner.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 22, 2018 06:51 AM (+Dllb)

40 Reading the boat capsizing article. They set off in a 73 MPH wind, with 4 foot waves and crests to 6 foot. On an inland lake. On a "pleasure" boat.

Someone needs to be drawn and quartered besides half of Washington DC.

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 06:51 AM (8ikIW)

41 39 You can't have enough insurance to cover something like that.
Having
said that, I seriously doubt the insurance will pay a dime because the
tour guide Company operated in a criminally reckless manner.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 22, 2018 06:51 AM (+Dllb)

They may as well file for bankruptcy now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:51 AM (mpXpK)

42 Having said that, I seriously doubt the insurance will pay a dime because the tour guide Company operated in a criminally reckless manner.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

I would hope that I would have enough sense as a passenger in this situation, to not even get on board the boat in those conditions. I thought they had gotten caught out on the lake.

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 06:54 AM (8ikIW)

43 Wake up some journ O lister said something about Trump and was proven wrong 3 minutes laters.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 06:57 AM (JFO2v)

44 Here is a pic from Shorpy of a NYC ferry boat in 1909. It appears to me to be seriously overcrowded. One wonders if they run their tourist boats that over crowded now.


http://tinyurl.com/yc5fe8ja

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

45 Didn't Page plead guilty to 'lying to the FIB'?

He's never been charged with anything. He was just the excuse to spy on the Trump campaign via the FISA warrants.

And all along we've known that the Steele invented crapola was used as the main basis for those warrants, despite denials from Comey and the rest of the shitweasels.

Shit's about to get really real -- This is the stuff the DOJ has been dragassing on for months, to the point Congress was threatening RosenPenis with contempt over.

Tick tock, slimebags.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 06:57 AM (0ogQG)

46 Pence was in town yesterday stumping for Brian "Shotgun" Kemp. Let me tell you he's no Ronnie "Machine Gun" Thompson.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 06:58 AM (UdKB7)

47 Drove 650 miles. Trucks therm said 109 when we came thru Dallas Central Expressway. Oil got to 210 and water to 204. It was HOT!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 06:58 AM (JFO2v)

48 26 One of these days need to go to SC
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 06:25 AM (pHfeF)

No not really! Spent much to in Charleston. Did not think it was that special.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 07:01 AM (JFO2v)

49 Iran warns Trump about the "Mother of all Wars"....I seem to remember that this term was used by Saddam Hussein and that he is now known as the father of the "mother of all battles" and its many linguistic offspring...that didn't work at too well did it?...

Posted by: KWDreaming at July 22, 2018 07:09 AM (Ula5x)

50 The Blue Angels put on their show yesterday in Biloxi MS. Before the show, local media was guesstimating a crowd of 70k; last night they estimated the actual crowd at 85-100k.

In a town of 50k residents. But remember folks, military parades and shows are a waste of time and money, and proof that Trump is like Hitler.

So sayeth the MFM, about the proposed military parade in DC this November.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 07:09 AM (0ogQG)

51 OK. we program 4 1/2 hours of Tiger and split the rest among all the others, right. And I expect you to compare every good shot to Tiger ad any bad shot is there's to own. Ad don't forget to subtly root for Tiger and by that, I mean brazenly. And if you have nothing to say, just say Tiger, Tiger, Tiger. And if nothing else, root for the person who has darker skin than Jordan or Kisner. Do we know our audience or what ?

Posted by: NBC at July 22, 2018 07:10 AM (TdS5t)

52 >>>That disgraced Baltimore mayor is suing companies over the non-existent AGW scam. DeComio's suit got thrown out so she had to chime in.


What is the standing of these cities to bring such suits? They're lucky their citizens don't care that they are wasting time and resources bringing frivolous, ideological lawsuits instead of governing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2018 07:10 AM (/qEW2)

53 14 people stabbed on a bus in Germany. An arrest has been made of a 34 year old German citizen with a "possible migration background".

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:10 AM (UdKB7)

54 48 I don't have a choice

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:10 AM (pHfeF)

55 One of these days need to go to SC
Posted by: Skip

I've been to Charleston. We did all the touristy thing. Interesting town and some beautiful old houses on the tour we went on. Other then that, meh.
Also went to Myrtle Beach. Now, all told, there's a town that was...meh.

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 07:11 AM (8ikIW)

56 Last time I was in Charleston someone tried to steal my car parked on the top deck of a parking garage. We caught him in the act and he took off on a mini dirt bike.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:13 AM (UdKB7)

57
Iran might have some 'vaulted' 'Republican Guards' or 'Elite' forces.

Scary stuff, according to the MSM.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 07:15 AM (LOgQ4)

58 47 Drove 650 miles. Trucks therm said 109 when we came thru Dallas Central Expressway. Oil got to 210 and water to 204. It was HOT!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 06:58 AM (JFO2v)

And people ask me why I don't move back to TX. It was a high of 74 here in the Berkshires. A couple from TX in a Clubman stopped me and ask directions. They had a ear to ear grin.

Posted by: REDACTED at July 22, 2018 07:15 AM (TdS5t)

59 Speaking of lawsuits, yesterday going to work a local radio show rebroadcast was all about the Vagas shooting and how MGM is going after victims. They are covering themselves by going on the offensive. And the woman reporter was going over how the government both Nevada and California have clamped down information. There is lots going on but nothing coming out on motive.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:15 AM (pHfeF)

60 OK. we program 4 1/2 hours of Tiger and split the rest among all the others, right. And I expect you to compare every good shot to Tiger ad any bad shot is there's to own. Ad don't forget to subtly root for Tiger and by that, I mean brazenly. And if you have nothing to say, just say Tiger, Tiger, Tiger. And if nothing else, root for the person who has darker skin than Jordan or Kisner. Do we know our audience or what ?
Posted by: NBC

They did the same thing with Lance Armstrong during his hey day. Then the shit hit the fan and you don't even hear his named mentioned during the Tour de France broadcast. Like he never existed and he was the only one that ever took some kind of performance enhancer in any sport ever.

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 07:16 AM (8ikIW)

61 Got to go to MB, soon, like yesterday.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:17 AM (pHfeF)

62 Night driving is the way to go, no traffic, cooler.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:17 AM (pHfeF)

63 Thanks Vic, and Gnubreed.
I just read up a bit on CP. Seems he was on "radar" since 2013 and the FIB never thought to let Trump in on that?
Seems scurrilous.

Posted by: Derptastic at July 22, 2018 07:19 AM (DB16e)

64 Night driving is the way to go, no traffic, cooler.
Posted by: Skip

And if you keep beer in the cooler, a fun drive.

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 07:20 AM (8ikIW)

65 We do have the German Grand Prix in little over a hour, that bum Vettel is on pole.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:20 AM (pHfeF)

66 49 Iran warns Trump about the "Mother of all Wars"....I seem to remember that this term was used by Saddam Hussein and that he is now known as the father of the "mother of all battles" and its many linguistic offspring...that didn't work at too well did it?...
Posted by: KWDreaming at July 22, 2018 07:09 AM (Ula5x)

I am so tired of the Muhammadans BS slogans. Mother of all Wars is a trite, overused expression. They have maybe 200 flying fighters including 50 year old F4s. We could wipe out all of those in less than an hour. A10s flying for 5 days would leave their armoured vehicle dead in the womb.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 07:21 AM (JFO2v)

67 Well, I'm still hoping that PDT's big military parade is just a pretext for surrounding DC with loyal troops and beginning the mass arrests.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 22, 2018 07:22 AM (yN/cP)

68 "Speaking of lawsuits"

That whole thing is f'd up, including the hotel hiding behind laws and lawyers. This BS about suing the victims is just pathetic. We are not getting the truth and probably never will. The "law enforcement" gang is not on our side folks.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:22 AM (UdKB7)

69 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:22 AM (hyuyC)

70 I am so tired of the Muhammadans BS slogans. Mother of all Wars is a trite, overused expression. They have maybe 200 flying fighters including 50 year old F4s. We could wipe out all of those in less than an hour. A10s flying for 5 days would leave their armoured vehicle dead in the womb.
Posted by: rhennigantx

But, don't forget, these machines of war are being run by the crack JV team that managed to flummox the Nobel Prize Winning Preezy

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 07:23 AM (8ikIW)

71 65 We do have the German Grand Prix in little over a hour, that bum Vettel is on pole.
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:20 AM (pHfeF)

F1 is no fun. Computers, aero, and no star driver make it so unfun. I would love to see those pussys in a real car.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 07:23 AM (JFO2v)

72 Vic, thank you for those links. Much appreciated.

Are urgent prayers still needed for your wife? I had heard she was home, but not how she was doing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:24 AM (hyuyC)

73 I want to see West & East Carolina they are less crowded.Anyone for a Duckboat ride?Pancakes and bacon included...NO lefejackets they would take up the space for the Maple Syrup.
Avast me hardies,cast off in the doom and gloom it's Pirate Dunkin' Day Aaaarrrr.....timber me shivers and yank me plank.What do you say to a drunken C'apn errlie in the mornin'...hands offf me ya beast.

Posted by: saf at July 22, 2018 07:24 AM (5IHGB)

74 Good morning, everyone. This has the chance to be a fun day. Our gun club is having a swap meet so there's the chance to pick up some odd bit of gear like a Lee Loader Kit for 12 ga. Once we get home there's the Book Thread, dangerous as that is to my budget. And if the rabbit ears and atmosphere cooperate, there is the closing round of the British Open. Don't give a damn about Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! but I like the looks and different play requirements for Carnoustie.


And of course plenty of good perked coffee.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2018 07:25 AM (V+03K)

75 Good news: That MO family will end up owning the Duck Boat business.

Bad news: It ain't worth anything.

Posted by: JAS at July 22, 2018 07:25 AM (3HNOQ)

76 F1 is no fun. Computers, aero, and no star driver make it so unfun. I would love to see those pussys in a real car.
Posted by: rhennigantx

I'm not a fan of watching car racing. Based on Skips recommendations, I've looked at the F1 racing. I do not get what is going on at all. I guess I'll have to look up the rules one of these days

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 07:25 AM (8ikIW)

77 F-1 drivers when they get racing in other cars do rather well, Alonso won LeMans and but for the car might have won Indy

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:27 AM (pHfeF)

78 68
"Speaking of lawsuits"



That whole thing is f'd up, including the hotel hiding behind laws
and lawyers. This BS about suing the victims is just pathetic. We are
not getting the truth and probably never will. The "law enforcement"
gang is not on our side folks.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:22 AM (UdKB7)

NV does have "joint and several liability' laws. So I would assume they are very actively showing that they had no contribution at all to the Vegas shooter. Just because he was staying in their hotel doesn't make them responsible for his wrongdoing. But if some scumbag ambulance chaser can find one tiny thing that the hotel may have been in error on they can be held for 100% of the damages.

IIANM the US is the only advanced nation that has "joint and several liability" laws. And that is because 90% of the legislatures are lawyers.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:30 AM (mpXpK)

79 Didn't Page plead guilty to 'lying to the FIB'?



He's never been charged with anything. He was just the excuse to spy on the Trump campaign via the FISA warrants.



And all along we've known that the Steele invented crapola was used
as the main basis for those warrants, despite denials from Comey and the
rest of the shitweasels.



Shit's about to get really real -- This is the stuff the DOJ has
been dragassing on for months, to the point Congress was threatening
RosenPenis with contempt over.



Tick tock, slimebags.


Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 06:57 AM

---

There was/is rumors that Carter Page was an FBI informant. He denied that, but the rumors have persisted and I suspect they are true. Otherwise he would have been charged long ago.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 22, 2018 07:31 AM (+Dllb)

80 Though heavily redacted, the documents show that the infamous Steele
Dossier was a major component of the 2016 surveillance warrant. The
dossier was also a major component in subsequent renewals.


Exactly what evidence other than the Steele document or the Astroturfed article "confirming" the Steele dossier was there? Did Fusion manufacture some more bullshit that they also used?
Remember the members of the Deep State group never expected to get caught because - like everyone else - they expected Hillary to win, so it was only necessary to have enough of a veil of legal action to plausibly hide it from an IG investigation. Remember, IG investigations START from the premise that the thing the IG is investigating was a legal operation that had flaws, not that it was a grossly illegal act masquerading as a legal operation. No IG inspection is ever going to uncover a Coup attempt - even if it actually existed because that is outside of the scope of an IG investigation.

Posted by: An Observation at July 22, 2018 07:31 AM (bIXaN)

81 Vic,

Add liability reform to the list for Trump's second term.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:32 AM (hyuyC)

82 72 Are urgent prayers still needed for your wife? I had heard she was home, but not how she was doing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:24 AM (hyuyC)

She is back at home, but actually an apartment over in town which is easier for her to get around in. She is doing OK for now but has a home health nurse coming in three times a week to change dressings an help her with medical stuff. I go over there just about every day.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:32 AM (mpXpK)

83 @6

As heavily redacted as it is, it reveals breathtaking corruption and criminality.



If I were Trump I would EO everything out in unredacted form.


I
love how they redacted the date of the application and exactly what
they were asking the court to allow them to do as well as who assembled
the FISA and host of other important facts.

The breathtaking corruption and criminality being revealed on a daily basis is astounding.


Jeff Sessions is a disgrace.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 22, 2018 07:33 AM (UfMVm)

84 So, the judge that decided to NOT strip ole convicted terrorist boy of his naturalized citizenship (in which stripping would mean we could deport his sorry ass after his prison term is up in 2020) is

An openly gay female black federal judge, appointed by TFG in 2014 to the 7th Circuit. She was confirmed by the Senate in a 52-44 vote. All descriptions per her wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staci_Michelle_Yandle

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2018 07:34 AM (0ogQG)

85 Weird kid is 25 today. Damn time flies. I was a prodigy considering I'll be 29 next month.

Wow.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 22, 2018 07:34 AM (R+1Bq)

86 'Just because he was staying in their hotel doesn't make them responsible for his wrongdoing.'

That's right, they are not responsible for the shooting. They are responsible for ensuring the safety of their guests.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:35 AM (UdKB7)

87 81
Vic,



Add liability reform to the list for Trump's second term.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:32 AM (hyuyC)

Those are all State liability laws. He would have a hard time doing that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:36 AM (mpXpK)

88 Vic We Have No Party

I guess that is good news. I'll dial down my ascending prayers to All Ahead Standard.

Every day, huh. I'll throw in prayers for you. For strength.

And while I'm at it, a shout-out to your neighbor. Have not heard much since she went on the wagon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:36 AM (hyuyC)

89 I'd like to see big time drivers in stock cars. Literally cars as Joe Nobody could go to the dealer and order, down to the roll cage.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:36 AM (gXMdV)

90 Re the Camel's bill, so if I pay 60% of income in rent does it mean the government pays half? That should revolutionize the college town rent scene.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 22, 2018 07:39 AM (mJmCN)

91 Porters helped haul weapons and ammo up to the 35th or so floor, unknowing what was in them of course. There are 3 women registered in that room as guests

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:39 AM (pHfeF)

92 I'm not saying the hotel could have done anything to prevent the shooting. I'm just saying the laws and lawyers get in the way of actual justice. The result is that whoever can afford the best lawyers to manipulate the law in their favor wins.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:40 AM (UdKB7)

93 "that MO family will end up owning the duck boat business"

The family that lost 9 people was actually from Indianapolis. It's only adult survivor lost her husband and all of her kids so that is probably the least of her concerns right now.

Posted by: Secret Square at July 22, 2018 07:40 AM (9WuX0)

94 @80
The FISA doc reveals that the FBI/DOJ relied solely on the dossier as their "hard evidence" and then synthesized support for the document by leaking and coordinating with their apparatchiks in the MSM to create a casus beli to spy.


It's sick and twisted and all of these motherfuckers deserve to have their necks stretched from a short drop.

Traitors all of them, which is why they are trying to create the narrative that Trump is the traitor, they always project what they are and do.

There is no doubt that if Trump did not win the election he would be in prison as we speak awaiting trial.

Everything that comes out makes me despise Jeff Sessions and the GOP more and more, because Jeff is responsible for all this, and the GOP let this farce and travesty of justice continue with no end in sight.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 22, 2018 07:40 AM (UfMVm)

95 86 That's right, they are not responsible for the shooting. They are responsible for ensuring the safety of their guests.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:35 AM (UdKB7)


They are only responsible for 'reasonable' actions like locks on the doors and actions inside the hotel. I don't hardly see how they could be held responsible for a criminal guest shooting people outside the hotel.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:40 AM (mpXpK)

96 88 And while I'm at it, a shout-out to your neighbor. Have not heard much since she went on the wagon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:36 AM (hyuyC)

She is still on the wagon. Longest I have ever seen her go.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:42 AM (mpXpK)

97 Isn't the percentage of your income that you're paying for rent a direct consequence of...wait for it...your own choices?

Skip, do you believe Hamilton/Mercedes's story that his hydraulics went out *before* he practically went airborne? Also, am I a bad person for laughing when he knelt beside his car apparently weeping?

Posted by: Mrs. Peel (who is a biomedical engineer) at July 22, 2018 07:43 AM (JPRju)

98 I'd also watch a series involving identical monstrously powerful and good handling cars that were prepped and maintained by the organization and the drivers get a car based on a lottery. Everything identical so that pit crews could prepare for the race regardless of the car. Then, after qualifying, the cars are swapped according to positions. Last place driver gets first place car and vice versa. Middle of the pack barely swaps.

Then race.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:44 AM (gXMdV)

99 Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods.

Tiger Woods.

Tiger. Woods.

Vijay Singh gets no respect.

That should cover golf for this Sunday.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 07:44 AM (EoRCO)

100 Sadly worked yesterday and missed qualifying, only know something happened. They are usually above board on information.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:45 AM (pHfeF)

101 90
Re the Camel's bill, so if I pay 60% of income in rent does it mean the
government pays half? That should revolutionize the college town rent
scene.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 22, 2018 07:39 AM (mJmCN)

From my understanding of her bill you would be able to write off your entire rent and utility bill as a 'refundable tax credit' meaning that you would be reimbursed 100%.

I would hope her bill is just posturing for her base because it has zero chance of passing.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

102 Vic, does she know she has a cheeringcommenting group across the country? Give her a Hosanna from me, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:46 AM (hyuyC)

103 I'm sure discovery would show all kinds of red flags, and also how we've been conditioned to be suspicious of Muslims but keep quiet unless we want to be sued into oblivion.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:47 AM (gXMdV)

104 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 22, 2018 07:48 AM (gNteG)

105 89 I'd like to see big time drivers in stock cars. Literally cars as Joe Nobody could go to the dealer and order, down to the roll cage.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:36 AM (gXMdV)

They would last about 2 laps. Oil starvation. Hard turns setting off airbags. Tires chunking. Overheating. Even track day cars (cars built for club racing) take thousands of dollar to modify.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 07:49 AM (JFO2v)

106 102
Vic, does she know she has a cheeringcommenting group across the country? Give her a Hosanna from me, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:46 AM (hyuyC)

yes, I have told her the Morons are all praying for her. She still lurks at the site periodically.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:49 AM (mpXpK)

107 Then race.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:44 AM (gXMdV)

IROC it sucked

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 07:50 AM (JFO2v)

108 They would last about 2 laps. Oil starvation. Hard turns setting off airbags. Tires chunking. Overheating. Even track day cars (cars built for club racing) take thousands of dollar to modify.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Plus they would have to set up OnStar before they started.

Turn Left
In 100 feet turn left...

Posted by: Bruce at July 22, 2018 07:50 AM (8ikIW)

109 Isn't the percentage of your income that you're paying for rent a direct consequence of...wait for it...your own choices?

The better question is...Is 30% a fake focus group generated number that really has no statistical or economic meaning?


Also this morning the LA Times has a front page piece with this headline:

"Trump's attacks weaken Transatlantic security relationship, but Europe has few alternatives"

Stop and ponder the naked stupidity of the premise. I've come to conclusion that it's much better to be a deplorable than a globalist idiot.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 22, 2018 07:50 AM (ZhVWS)

110 Um, if my neighbors lurked -- awkward.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:51 AM (hyuyC)

111 'Everything identical so that pit crews could prepare for the race regardless of the car.'

The IROC series did that. It was a fun series that would be great with the new Camaros. I'd like to see that too.

Part of auto racing is the cars though. Prep is a large part of winning. The cars and teams play a major part that is not a factor in something like IROC.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:52 AM (UdKB7)

112 They would last about 2 laps. Oil starvation. Hard turns setting off airbags. Tires chunking. Overheating. Even track day cars (cars built for club racing) take thousands of dollar to modify.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 07:49 AM (JFO2v)

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Yep. That's almost my point exactly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:53 AM (gXMdV)

113 110
Um, if my neighbors lurked -- awkward.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:51 AM (hyuyC)

I thought you were talking about wifey, not neighbor.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 07:54 AM (mpXpK)

114 Hamilton had some pretty scrappy laps including going very wide and over the curb badly (car became airborne) on...I think Turn 1. His car's hydraulics went out and he lost his gearbox, so he had to stop. He then, while the session was still green-flagged and cars were flying past him trying to finish their hot laps (2 min to go in Q1), leaped out of his car and started trying to push it back to the pits along the racetrack. He is, of course, getting away with that with no penalty.

He and Mercedes say the hydraulics failure happened before Turn 1, which caused a steering issue, which caused him to go wide. Plausible, I suppose.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 22, 2018 07:54 AM (JPRju)

115 Kameltoe Harris is being true to her communist leanings. She is
sponsoring the 'Rent Relief Act' which would provide a refundable tax
credits for people paying more than 30% of their income for rent.


Gee, it's a wonder rents are so sky-high in her state, huh?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 22, 2018 07:54 AM (oVJmc)

116 So ESPN is headlining a Tiger win might be the greatest golf story ever told - let that sink in. Fell sorry for any golf fans out there who have to watch, especially if St. Tiger can pull a rabbit out of his bag.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 22, 2018 07:55 AM (mJmCN)

117 I'd also watch a series with cars that had a set amount of nitrous, electronic HP, etc available with the push of a button, and a big ass red light on the roof to show fans the different strategies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 07:56 AM (gXMdV)

118 When I was a kid use to go camping locally where there was a dirt track and often watched races Friday and Saturday nights, stock cars, midgets, demo derby.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 07:56 AM (pHfeF)

119 'Even track day cars (cars built for club racing) take thousands of dollar to modify.'

I do track days. You do not need to spend a lot of money beyond tires to participate. I think the new Camaros and Mustangs ( the performance models) would hold up pretty well.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 07:57 AM (UdKB7)

120 115 Gee, it's a wonder rents are so sky-high in her state, huh?


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 22, 2018 07:54 AM (oVJmc)

Rents are high in her State for two major reason. Over-inflated property values and stupid green space laws. Then throw in CA's penchant for adding stupid regulations for building homes and you get insane rent and home prices.
When I lived out there in the early 70s three of us were renting a three bedroom townhouse 25 miles from the base. It was costing us $400/month. The last time I checked those same apartments were $2,000/month and the neighborhood has become a major crime problem due to the invasion of Hispanic gangs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:00 AM (mpXpK)

121 There are rules where driver can push his car by himself legally, I think long ago a driver pushed his car over the finish line though now safety is a bigger factor. I will watch prerace they are sure to replay it.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 08:02 AM (pHfeF)

122 May everyone's day be as bright as your dreams.

Chores await.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 08:02 AM (hyuyC)

123 The things that hurt modern cars at track days are things like traction control that use the brakes to control wheel spin. That eats up brakes in no time. It depends on how hard to driver pushes the car though. A real racing environment with stock cars on race tires would really show what cars could take it.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:03 AM (UdKB7)

124 Get the government to pay for high rents and you will just get higher rents. Just like college tuition.
Socialists and suckers.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 08:03 AM (pHfeF)

125 Don't know much about racing as a sport - though I always did like Clark and Stewart as a kid (no idea why), but I give full props to anyone who drives 200 mph in traffic.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 22, 2018 08:04 AM (mJmCN)

126 The only way a tiger win would be palatable is if he wore a MAGA hat in his post round interviews. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: Heart at July 22, 2018 08:05 AM (LIhNq)

127 I do know a guy who blew up his Mazda 3 engine at a track day but he's a dumbass.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:06 AM (UdKB7)

128 Kameltoe Harris is being true to her communist leanings. She is

sponsoring the 'Rent Relief Act' which would provide a refundable tax

credits for people paying more than 30% of their income for rent.

Gee, it's a wonder rents are so sky-high in her state, huh?


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 22, 2018 07:54 AM (oVJmc)

This is the first step on the road to socialized Universal Housing for all because it only addresses the needs for those people that have 30% of an income to squander on rent. With the right people in charge, it will be so much more efficient than the "free market" distribution of housing.
After all comrade, when you get right down to it, you don't really need an extra bedroom when there are hundreds thousands of homeless addicts, muslim "children", and illegal immigrants that need a place to sleep at night. I'm hereby announcing the "Register Your Housing Profile" to address this critical problem. Rest assured, the Party will note your responses and enter them in the public record!

Posted by: Chairman Hrothgar at July 22, 2018 08:06 AM (n9EOP)

129 123 A real racing environment with stock cars on race tires would really show what cars could take it.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:03 AM (UdKB7)

Back in the heyday of stock car racing they used to race "real stock" cars. Now they are essentially F1 race car frames with "stock shaped" bodies mounted on the frame. I gave up so-called stock care racing decades ago. And I never was into the other types of racing.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:06 AM (mpXpK)

130 Wake up! Something's happening!!

A logical necessity, since if nothing at all was happening then the universe would have achieved heat death...

Posted by: Rusty Bill at July 22, 2018 08:07 AM (HBMMh)

131 True, location matters a lot on rent. My BFF lives in Brooklyn. When she visits me in Houston, she feels a little agoraphobic in my house, which could swallow her apartment. I haven't been so crass as to ask her rent, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if the total rent (she has roommates) were comparable to my mortgage payment. (Of course, once you add in my insurance, I am definitely paying more than she is. Windstorm is hella expensive for good reason. I considered dropping flood - if Harvey didn't flood us, nothing will - but that seemed like too much of a risk.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 22, 2018 08:07 AM (JPRju)

132 That woman that lost all of her family in the boat accident possibly may never recover from her loss. Her shock and sadness may be truly overwhelming. My heart breaks for her and all the victims.

I see my illustrious Governor Katshit has done it again. Next time I see him in the grocery I'll have a new club to beat him over the head with. I'm ashamed to say I hate anyone, but damn I'm getting close with him.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2018 08:09 AM (9rIkM)

133 Well, I have absolutely no excuse for not going to church this morning. Race is all set on DVR. So I guess I will go shower up and get going. See y'all later.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 22, 2018 08:10 AM (JPRju)

134 ' I gave up so-called stock care racing decades ago.'

Yep. When Richard Petty quit driving I was done with NASCAR.

The SCCA is a great organization if you want to play around with racing your stock or modified car. Autocrossing lets you compete safely on a closed course against other cars in your class. Driving in an event is a hell of a lot more fun than watching one.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:10 AM (UdKB7)

135 Went to Gettysburg in the rain yesterday. When I went about 10 years ago it was a 100 degree July day and that made it more realistic.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2018 08:12 AM (DH5wZ)

136 A nice little pearl in the South African Constitution:

Discrimination on one or more of the grounds listed in subsection (3) is unfair unless it is established that the discrimination is fair.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 08:12 AM (JFO2v)

137 Used to auto cross and rally cross.

After my second kid was born had to hang it up.

An expensive hobby.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2018 08:13 AM (DH5wZ)

138 ' I gave up so-called stock care racing decades ago.'



Yep. When Richard Petty quit driving I was done with NASCAR.


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Mine was in the late 90s/early 2000s when the ghost debris that the cameras never could find (or something like a gum wrapper) kept causing a caution flag in the last ten laps of every f*cking race to tighten it up for an excitingly appropriate TV-viewing finish.

Nope. I never looked back, and I don't think I'm alone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:14 AM (jhX4U)

139 Used to auto cross and rally cross.



After my second kid was born had to hang it up.



An expensive hobby.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2018 08:13 AM (DH5wZ)


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I've heard you can make a small fortune doing it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:14 AM (jhX4U)

140 She graduated fourth in her class from Boston Universitys College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelors degree in economics and international relations.

4th? In Economics? BU must really suck!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 08:15 AM (JFO2v)

141 "I've heard you can make a small fortune doing it."

Yeah, but you have to spend a large fortune along the way...

Posted by: Rusty Bill at July 22, 2018 08:16 AM (HBMMh)

142 I see an antifa idiot in South Dakota was arrested for burglary and when they got a search warrant for his house they found bomb making materials and antifa manifestos. BB has the story.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 22, 2018 08:17 AM (+Dllb)

143 New York Giants co-owner Steve Tisch will not punish his players for any anthem displays of protest and hopes that President Donald Trump will focus on other issues, he told The Hollywood Reporter Tuesday.

When the new season starts, I hope his priorities are not criticizing the NFL and telling owners what to do and what not to do." "We support our players," Tisch said. "They are not going to be punished. There is not going to be any punitive action taking place against them.'




Oh Stevie that sounds like such a winning formula to me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 08:20 AM (SiINZ)

144 'Used to auto cross and rally cross.
After my second kid was born had to hang it up'

I did too, for about 20 years. I got back into it about 5 years ago and now do both AC and RC with my #2 son.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:20 AM (UdKB7)

145 Back in the heyday of stock car racing they used to race "real stock" cars.

Not really. In the early 60s you could buy a car for the body but then it was cut apart and rebuilt. Trailing arm suspension in rear. Brakes from heavy duty trucks and front suspension was tube stock. Motors had dry sumps, special cooling systems, and close to 15 to 1 compression.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 08:20 AM (JFO2v)

146 I haven't been to Gettysburg in 15 years or so, as a kid went there half dozen times. They have put areas of the park back more like original. Twice I have made best I can the terrain of Gettysburg for a gameboard.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 08:21 AM (pHfeF)

147 'I've heard you can make a small fortune doing it.'

You are not going to make any money at it for sure but it's a blast so for me well worth it to buy a set of tires every year or so.
It doesn't have to be expensive though. My son drives a $1000 Miata on a set of $400 tires.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:23 AM (UdKB7)

148 New York Giants co-owner Steve Tisch will not punish his players for any anthem displays of protest and hopes that President Donald Trump will focus on other issues

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Hey dummy, he was elected by the people you want to watch your games. He is representing us on the issue you decided to make the hill you want to fight on. That's his job.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:24 AM (gXMdV)

149 Posted by: Kreplach at July 22, 2018 07:40 AM

It's complicated ...

Posted by: Mitch M., Paul R., and K St. at July 22, 2018 08:24 AM (DMUuz)

150 When I lived out there in the early 70s three of us were renting a three bedroom townhouse 25 miles from the base. It was costing us $400/month. The last time I checked those same apartments were $2,000/month and the neighborhood has become a major crime problem due to the invasion of Hispanic gangs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:00 AM


I'm not much younger then you and I have "inflation multipliers' stored in my brain to try to equate todays dollars to different decades. Early 70's would be a multiplier of about 7X. So the $400 of then would be about $2800 today.

So the gang stuff is hurting the rents.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 08:25 AM (LOgQ4)

151 BBC blames AGW scam for the current spat of high temperatures.

*looks at calendar* *raises eyebrow*

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:27 AM (CE5C/)

152 Damn woodpecker is back on my metal chimney cover. I may have to get the pellet gun and shoot that SOB.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:28 AM (mpXpK)

153 Oh, I think the Vegas police and the local FBI have known the motivation of the Vegas shooter for a long time, they just don't want us knowing it because it makes them look bad. The police of any kind don't cover up something without reason.

Of course there is the possibility that they are all hopelessly incompetent, and really can't figure out his motive, and that is what they are trying to cover up.

Posted by: An Observation at July 22, 2018 08:29 AM (bIXaN)

154 So this is just another give-away to her constituents, the FSA. 30% of your income for rent is common, especially when you include utilities as this bill does.

Helps not just the tenants, but the landlords, too. Oh, and certainly the administrators of said program, too.

That's how you do Winning with Other People's Money.

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:29 AM (CE5C/)

155 Brave young black man to face down dozens of club wielding white supremacists in Scotland today.

Posted by: NBC at July 22, 2018 08:30 AM (TdS5t)

156 Vic means all of those woodpecker statements hypothetically, officers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:31 AM (gXMdV)

157 Damn woodpecker is back on my metal chimney cover. I may have to get the pellet gun and shoot that SOB.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:28 AM


You could always buy some of those ant baits and put them around your foundation. It's usually ants the 'peckers are after. Kill the ants the problem might go away.

Or shoot the damn thing. As long as you don't have lefty neighbors.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 08:32 AM (LOgQ4)

158 So after the tree rats stole the last of my almost ripe cherry and plum tomatoes, I decided to ga full Carl Spackler on them.

15 foot long, seven foot tall chicken wire and lumber tomato cages.

Five access doors, and brass plated hardware.


F'em.

Hope the little bastards starve.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 22, 2018 08:33 AM (gNteG)

159 155 Brave young black man to face down dozens of club wielding white supremacists in Scotland today.
Posted by: NBC at July 22, 2018 08:30 AM (TdS5t)

HALFBLACK

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 08:35 AM (JFO2v)

160 Five access doors, and brass plated hardware

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Five access doors you say?
- the raccoons

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:35 AM (gXMdV)

161 Something has gotten 4 of my ripe tomatoes, they are waiting until ripe so brought 1 in a day early just so I could have it.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 08:35 AM (pHfeF)

162 You cannot stop us on the road to freedom, You cannot stop us, because our eyes can see.

Posted by: Van Morrison at July 22, 2018 08:36 AM (Ogr1j)

163 158 https://tinyurl.com/yacxhwue

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2018 08:36 AM (JFO2v)

164 If this year's temperature trends continue, we will be on fire by next Christmas.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 08:37 AM (yQpMk)

165 HALFBLACK

Eighth.

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:38 AM (g0Lfb)

166 "Something has gotten 4 of my ripe tomatoes, they are waiting until ripe so brought 1 in a day early just so I could have it."

Yup.

The little bastards know when the perfect day is for ripeness.

And grab them the night before.


I wish one of them would try to eat one of the fifty or so Carolina Reaper pods growing on the bush next door to the tomatoes.

That could be fun to watch.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 22, 2018 08:39 AM (gNteG)

167 HALFBLACK

Eighth.
Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:38 AM (g0Lfb)

Caublasian

Posted by: BignJames at July 22, 2018 08:40 AM (0+nbW)

168 The daily temperature has gone up nearly 80 degrees in the last six months. We're doomed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 22, 2018 08:40 AM (yQpMk)

169 Vic, I finally won my battle against the sonnofabitch woodpecker by draping a net of fishing line over the area he was attacking, driving him distracted enough to go elsewhere. Two years I had to battle that bastard, because my neighbors watch me carefully to make certain I do not shoot him.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 22, 2018 08:41 AM (Ogr1j)

170 Steve Tisch will not punish his players for any anthem displays of protest and hopes that President Donald Trump will focus on other issues

Yeah, that'll fix it. Is Trump the one who's not buying all your tickets?

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:41 AM (NAs56)

171
Don't have a problem with anything stealing tomatoes. Nope, the deer come along and eat the top of the plant off. Night after night. Right up against the foundation of the house. Hundreds of acres next to me to graze.

Why the fvck is hunting season after growing season? The two should coincide.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 08:43 AM (LOgQ4)

172 I an't wait till MLB ticket prices drop back down into the 'affordable' range.


Get woke...go feck yourself.

O something like that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 22, 2018 08:44 AM (gNteG)

173 draping a net of fishing line over the area he was attacking,

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That's a good idea. They make rolls of gutter guard mesh that might work. Metal screen mesh is available at Lowe's too iirc.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:45 AM (gXMdV)

174 "Hundreds of acres next to me to graze."

Maybe you should plant some tomatoes on them.

Posted by: The Deer at July 22, 2018 08:46 AM (gNteG)

175
I wonder if it's legal to chase after a 'pecker with a drone?

Probably isn't. Yet.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 08:46 AM (LOgQ4)

176 "Hundreds of acres next to me to graze."

Maybe you should plant some tomatoes on them.

Posted by: The Deer at July 22, 2018 08:46 AM (gNteG)

Heh....I just get my tomatoes from the roadside produce guy....let him fight the deer.

Posted by: BignJames at July 22, 2018 08:50 AM (0+nbW)

177 69 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2018 07:22 AM (hyuyC)


I love your traditional greeting, Salty!

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2018 08:51 AM (4HMW8)

178 Caublasian

Chinese, Thai, and Dutch on his mother's side, black, white, and Indian on his father.'s. Truly a blend.

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:52 AM (g0Lfb)

179 Steve Tisch will not punish his players for any anthem displays of protest and hopes that President Donald Trump will focus on other issues

Yeah, that'll fix it. Is Trump the one who's not buying all your tickets?
Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2018 08:41 AM (NAs56)


Trump tweeting out Fat Fuck Goodell's ridiculous salary has triggered the idiot owners into going full retard. They will be famous for blowing up the perpetual ATM.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 08:53 AM (y7DUB)

180 173
draping a net of fishing line over the area he was attacking,



-



That's a good idea. They make rolls of gutter guard mesh that might work. Metal screen mesh is available at Lowe's too iirc.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 22, 2018 08:45 AM (gXMdV)

There is no way I could get to the top of that chimney on a two story house.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:53 AM (mpXpK)

181 Now I am on a Van Morrison jag. Dog wants walking though. More realistically, he wants to go collect ticks. My momma told me, there would be days like this.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 22, 2018 08:53 AM (Ogr1j)

182 The Dump....


No, not that one....




BBIAB.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 22, 2018 08:54 AM (gNteG)

183
I opened up a container of ant bait and took a butter knife and spread it across the stone columns the ants were using to climb up my siding. They disappeared in about a week and 'pecker went away.

He might also have been a little discouraged by little round .77 objects flying in his direction. Objects of affection, of course.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 08:56 AM (LOgQ4)

184 Trump tweeting out Fat Fuck Goodell's ridiculous salary has triggered the idiot owners into going full retard. They will be famous for blowing up the perpetual ATM.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2018 08:53 AM (y7DUB)



I guess the last two years of falling ratings and merchandise sales haven't gotten through to them yet. Somehow some way the fan boys need to get it through their thick skulls to turn their backs on the NFL and really make the ratings plummet

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2018 08:57 AM (SiINZ)

185 The NFL.

Time for them to go away.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2018 08:57 AM (EoRCO)

186 'There is no way I could get to the top of that chimney on a two story house.'

Get yourself a drone and buzz his feathered ass. If you get one with a camera you can sit inside and harass 'em.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2018 08:57 AM (UdKB7)

187 I have some ant bait that I put on their mounds when I find them. There are no ants in the area of my chimney so he has to be going after something else.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 22, 2018 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

188 There is no way I could get to the top of that chimney on a two story house.


This is why God created teenagers Vic.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 22, 2018 08:59 AM (Ogr1j)

189 Book NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 08:59 AM (pHfeF)

190
I heard something on the radio yesterday about endangered species list being updated. Apparently it's been like 'Hotel California' -- you get checked into the list but never checked out when your numbers improve.

There's certainly no shortage of 'peckers in my 'hood.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 22, 2018 08:59 AM (LOgQ4)

191 Racing is a VERY expensive hobby. When I was young I tried racing at the old Englishtown Speedway near Fort Dix.

It was a blast most fun I have had not in a helicopter while fully clothed BUT between tires fuel and replacing an engine I had to eat on base for a year.

Posted by: Big V at July 22, 2018 09:08 AM (ZvLtE)

192 Mornings!
30 Skip, I'm suspicious that the "Russians hacking" is a lie. I saw a believable video byAmerica Restored laying out the evidence the hack of the DNC was local, because of the speed of download.

It may have been the whistleblower, Seth Rich.

Posted by: Booknlass at July 22, 2018 09:12 AM (84I0r)

193 watch Sacred Games on NF .... get away from all
that SJW shite .... watch how you really deal with your political/cultural enemies

Posted by: Qmark at July 22, 2018 09:26 AM (STXdS)

194 Rush has said the download speed was unbelievable as a on line hack. Had to be done by direct connection. Awan anyone?

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2018 09:41 AM (pHfeF)

195 http://bit.ly/2O9YLfR
====
A Review of the DOJ/FBI FISA Application Release The Last Refuge

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at July 22, 2018 09:45 AM (y3aQB)

196 I see in Baltimore their removing sugery drinks from kids menus over the usial that Big Dumb Brother is watching over them

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 22, 2018 10:44 AM (FLiOE)

197 Soul Town is doing a 1970 countdown. Currently on #10, Patches

Posted by: Chopped Liver at July 22, 2018 11:06 AM (PUmDY)

198 Vic, those yard temps would be discarded by "science" as 'outliers' . can't muck up their models, ya know.

Posted by: socalcon at July 22, 2018 11:11 AM (WAnre)

199 Misplaced and illegal crab pots in Puget Sound are getting wrapped around props and shafts of the WA state ferries. $100K to pull the ferry and remove the lines.

The WA state ferries are considered part of the WA state road system.

LOL


Posted by: Under Fire at July 22, 2018 11:18 AM (r9UYA)

200 "New York Giants co-owner Steve Tisch will not punish his players for any
anthem displays of protest and hopes that President Donald Trump will
focus on other issues, he told The Hollywood Reporter Tuesday."
Actually, I agree with Tisch: because the eagle does not hunt flies.
With regard to the Civil War, I don't see how anyone could read Alexander Stephens' "Cornerstone" speech and not realize that secession was meant to preserve and expand slavery. States' rights may have been the lever with which the Union was split; but the fulcrum was slavery.

Posted by: Brown Line at July 22, 2018 03:01 PM (S6ArX)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (7/21/1

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*****

The Saturday Night Joke

A young ventriloquist touring Norway puts on a show in a small fishing town. With his dummy on his knee, he starts going through his usual dumb blonde jokes.

Suddenly, a blonde woman in the fourth row stands up and starts shouting, "I've heard enough of your stupid blonde jokes. What makes you think you can stereotype Norwegian blonde women that way? What does the color of a woman's hair have to do with her worth as a human being? It’s men like you who keep women like me from being respected at work and in the community, and from reaching our full potential as people. It’s people like you that make others think that all blondes are dumb! You and your kind continue to perpetuate discrimination against not only blondes, but women in general, pathetically all in the name of humor!"

The embarrassed ventriloquist begins to apologize, and the blonde interrupts yelling, "You stay out of this! I'm talking to that little shit on your lap."

*****

Here's your chance to purchase a part of history. You can purchase the Ferrari from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

*****

A great prank, watch out for April Fool's Day and Homecoming week.


*****

Do you have Ninja skills? Do you want to make $85,000 a year? There may be just the job for you. One drawback is that you will have to move to Japan. h/t Hank Curmudgeon

*****


A Go-Fund Me campaign for these would be awesome. A Moron purchasing one certainly would make MoMes MOAR interesting. h/t red1c14

*****

Need some cuteness? Want to smile? Here ya go. This should work.


*****

I bet Mr. Mike Hammer doesn't bitch when he mixes concrete.


*****


The ONT Musical Interlude


Not only does it sound good. It is also healthy for you.

***

Just because...........


And because. Again..........


Because. Really, really, because...........


*****

Yummy. Can't understand why Black Currant flavored Fanta soda in Bahrain has been retired.


*****


0-2 on dating on one night.


*****


WHY?


*****

Live streaming? Be careful or you could end up as a Genius Award Winner.


*****


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Duke.

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Notice: Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. No refunds, no exchanges. All ONTs are final.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:01 PM




Comments

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1 You're all seeing this too, right?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 10:00 PM (gUCYC)

2 Oooh, girthy!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 10:00 PM (gUCYC)

3 top ten?

Posted by: morigu at July 21, 2018 10:00 PM (N/con)

4 I like ice cream

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2018 10:00 PM (pHfeF)

5 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:00 PM (e9G8E)

6 Bold, I like that too

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2018 10:01 PM (pHfeF)

7 The Emboldening...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)

8 No, Eris.

They told you to not take the brown acid.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 10:02 PM (fuK7c)

9 Bold choice for an ONT!

Posted by: Surfperch at July 21, 2018 10:02 PM (M+sEY)

10 Rather jumps out at one, dunnit?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:02 PM (e9G8E)

11 "Here's your chance to purchase a part of history. You can purchase the Ferrari from Ferris Bueller's Day Off."

Throw in Cameron's house and we'll talk.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:03 PM (y87Qq)

12 maybe top ten?

Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2018 10:03 PM (yJ1e6)

13 That is a strange group of retired flavors

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2018 10:03 PM (pHfeF)

14 *wonders how the Lesbian Sleepover went last night...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:04 PM (e9G8E)

15 I'm not sure I am here.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 10:04 PM (vFd8X)

16 Ok what did we do to deserve Status Quo and Yoko in the same thread?

Posted by: Tuna at July 21, 2018 10:04 PM (jm1YL)

17 I love John Wayne. The world needs more men like him, he smoked, he drank, he was tough as nails and hot as hell!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 10:05 PM (DAdSz)

18 *wonders how the Lesbian Sleepover went last night...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:04 PM (e9G8E)


http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=376180#c29190212

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:05 PM (y87Qq)

19 Present!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:05 PM (txw6d)

20 Good evening people. And by people I mean all you funny little grey boxes.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 21, 2018 10:06 PM (sM+h7)

21 Yeezus, that veggie ensemble goes on for frickin' forever.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 10:06 PM (gUCYC)

22 Today's weather was very groovy moody blues by the crickets. Liked it. All it needed was a little fog.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 10:06 PM (vFd8X)

23 Genius Award:

It's alleged that around 4.20am, a group of four men had forced entry to a shed at the back of his property. "... then relocating to another address where they allegedly consumed drugs."

Pass the dutchie . . .

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:07 PM (N1ZXu)

24 "Here's your chance to purchase a part of history. You can purchase the Ferrari from Ferris Bueller's Day Off."


Before or after it gets destroyed?

Posted by: davidt at July 21, 2018 10:07 PM (SV/HG)

25 I don't think the bagpipe thing will work. Everyone will cover their ears and miss the truck going by ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2018 10:07 PM (AoK0a)

26 Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:07 PM (NWiLs)

27 25 I don't think the bagpipe thing will work. Everyone will cover their ears and miss the truck going by ...
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2018 10:07 PM (AoK0a)

Bagpipes make me want to grab my claymore and start slaying Englishmen.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:08 PM (NWiLs)

28 15 I'm not sure I am here.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 10:04 PM (vFd8X)

Doing Cartesian skepticism one better?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:09 PM (NWiLs)

29
The Houston Area Hound Association had its raffle at the Houston World Series of Dog Shows this week. It made some $3300 for a scholarship fund in memory of a talented young handler who tragically died on her 22nd birthday.

The item that attracted the greatest number of bids, that there were almost fights over was... a pair of scissors.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 21, 2018 10:09 PM (LsBY9)

30 Cheers!

Any evening spent with the Duke and my friends I grey boxes is a good one!

I thought MisHum only drank coffee.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:09 PM (8kkL4)

31 Fuck me, I'm talking to myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:10 PM (NWiLs)

32 Posted by: Tuna at July 21, 2018 10:04 PM (jm1YL)

Feeling guilty about something?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2018 10:10 PM (3Pma+)

33 Insomniac you have all of us!
Sorry, I couldn*t find a catchy retro tune quick enough!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 10:10 PM (DAdSz)

34 Before or after it gets destroyed?
Posted by: davidt at July 21, 2018 10:07 PM (SV/HG)

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There were 3 made, 2 fully functional, and a rolling chassis for the wipeout scene.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (+1YDx)

35 The ONT wouldn't be complete without a big ass cucumber, so I brought mine. I'll just leave it on the counter here, in case anyone needs it.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (txw6d)

36 Meh, I read the content.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (qZdIZ)

37 Is "yoko ono sings horribly" the description of the video, or a statement of fact and just incidental to the video's content?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (y87Qq)

38 re: Whiskey truck

Remember milkmen way back when? While stationed in Italy in the mid-80's there was a delivery guy who would bring you crates of wine and German beer weekly to military housing. Soooo convenient!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (di1hb)

39 31 Fuck me, I'm talking to myself.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:10 PM (NWiLs)
---

Did you say Yes?

Go for it!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)

40 Hey everybody.

My 13-year-old niece is blonde. I and family intend to teach her all the dumb blonde jokes, so she can preemptively cut off anybody who tries them on her.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:12 PM (km8m2)

41 35 The ONT wouldn't be complete without a big ass cucumber, so I brought mine. I'll just leave it on the counter here, in case anyone needs it.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (txw6d)

I...I have no words.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:12 PM (NWiLs)

42 very young John Wayne movie, one of my favorites, Shephard of the Hills, very handsome dude

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 21, 2018 10:12 PM (YuQLm)

43 if yer playing bagpipe music from the truck, you better be serving whisky, AKA scotch.

whiskey is bourbon.

that is all.


Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2018 10:13 PM (a66nm)

44 LIVE from New Zealand! It's Saturday Night Virtuaaaaaal.
/Don Pardo

Posted by: mindful webworker - please clap light is on at July 21, 2018 10:13 PM (lMyeR)

45 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86post=376180#c29190212

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:05 PM


Thanks, Hog!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:14 PM (e9G8E)

46 Pretty sure Kelton "EZ Rider" Griffin has a date for tonight. Not quite 5'8 in a TN jail... yeah, good luck with that

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:14 PM (N1ZXu)

47 39 31 Fuck me, I'm talking to myself.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:10 PM (NWiLs)
---

Did you say Yes?

Go for it!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)

Wrong kind of being fucked.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:14 PM (NWiLs)

48 Bagpipes make me want to grab my claymore and start slaying Englishmen.
Posted by: Insomniac


"Never!," he cried, "Never shall ye get me alive
Ye rotten hound of the burnie crew!"
Well I snatched fer the blade and a Claymore cut and thrust
And I fell down before him round his feet ...

Posted by: Adriane the Claymore Critic ... at July 21, 2018 10:14 PM (AoK0a)

49 The ONT wouldn't be complete without a big ass cucumber

Pickle Riiiick!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:14 PM (N1ZXu)

50 "You stay out of this!"

Saw the punchline coming from a mile away. Still funny.

Posted by: mindful webworker - kind of a blondish kind of gray at July 21, 2018 10:15 PM (lMyeR)

51 Thanks, Hog!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:14 PM (e9G8E)


Hey man, thank Miley. I just post links to stuff.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:15 PM (y87Qq)

52 You can purchase the Ferrari from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

And those dings from when it backed out of the glass garage and went careening down the hillside - that'll buff right out.

Posted by: mindful webworker - anyone? anyone? at July 21, 2018 10:18 PM (lMyeR)

53 Canada. Leopard tanks. I'm sensing an opportunity for AOP here.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 21, 2018 10:18 PM (0ogQG)

54 Gee, I wouldn't mind having a Leopard tank. I wonder how much fuel it would use running to my place from Wainwright? I think one would flatten my poor old trailer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:19 PM (bNb8V)

55 And those dings from when it backed out of the glass garage and went careening down the hillside - that'll buff right out.
Posted by: mindful webworker - anyone? anyone? at July 21, 2018 10:18 PM (lMyeR)

--------------

See #34

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:19 PM (+1YDx)

56 The ONT wouldn't be complete without a big ass
cucumber, so I brought mine. I'll just leave it on the counter here, in
case anyone needs it.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM


https://preview.tinyurl.com/55cbtn

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:19 PM (e9G8E)

57 Why punctuation is important: "Man Steals Date's Car" v. "Man Steals, Dates Car"

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:19 PM (N1ZXu)

58 MILEY: Be sure to rinse off that cucumber first.

Posted by: CMU VET at July 21, 2018 10:20 PM (C+wjz)

59 Good Saturday evening, horde!

Off I go to shower before bed.

Be back in a while.

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at July 21, 2018 10:20 PM (QU+qf)

60 Hey man, thank Miley. I just post links to stuff.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:15 PM


Never would found that without your help!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:20 PM (e9G8E)

61 I love bagpipes. I blast Saor Patrol through the house when I'm cleaning. It revs me up.

If it's not Scottish, it' crap!

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:21 PM (XoAz8)

62 Why punctuation is important: "Man Steals Date's Car" v. "Man Steals, Dates Car"
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:19 PM (N1ZXu)

-----------

"Let's eat, Grandma!".

"Lets eat Grandma!".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:21 PM (+1YDx)

63 John Wayne is the best. His children adored him.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 21, 2018 10:21 PM (+Tibp)

64 Pretty awesome...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWPqRtozh0

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 10:22 PM (PUmDY)

65 I guess folks are out having lives. Good for them.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (NWiLs)

66 There were 3 made, 2 fully functional, and a rolling chassis for the wipeout scene.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (+1YDx)

And they aren't real Ferraris, just copies, with V8 engines. Probably better, more durable cars overall than the actual Ferraris that they copied, but imitations nevertheless.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (bNb8V)

67 M1A1/REOPADO 2 DORIFTOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPBvPlmzMME

(I like how the turbine/diesel noises are so distinct)

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (y87Qq)

68 MILEY: Be sure to rinse off that cucumber first.

Posted by: CMU VET at July 21, 2018 10:20 PM (C+wjz)

Oh no, this isn't for me. I have a dedicated team of sex toys.
Besides, it' uncomfortably large. And unwaxed.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (txw6d)

69 If it's not Scottish, it' crap!

Yeah, that Cuban bag pipping is worse than Yoko....

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (LOq4H)

70 I think it's just Duke Wayne, not The Duke. Like I'm Grump, not The Grump.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 21, 2018 10:24 PM (yQpMk)

71 I need to win the lottery so I can bring this to the TX MoMee:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybhwq4ru

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 21, 2018 10:24 PM (0ReGO)

72 I like black current flavor in general. If Fanta offered it in the US I'd definitely try it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 21, 2018 10:24 PM (UENOA)

73 I lurves black currant.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:25 PM (txw6d)

74 https://preview.tinyurl.com/55cbtn
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 21, 2018 10:19 PM (e9G8E)

I laughed at "A cucumber never wants to get it on when your nails are wet"

Tomorrow I'm getting a pedicure, so...

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:25 PM (8kkL4)

75 Bueller's Day Off was filmed in Northbrook, just north of where I grew up, in Evanston. I seem to remember driving the Ravines up there where that house is. Fun area of Chicago to grow up, especially back then.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (sM+h7)

76 Now summertime's here babe, need somethin' to keep you cool
Ah now summertime's here babe, need somethin' to keep you cool
Better look out now though, Dave's got somethin' for you
Tell ya what it is

I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by, oh my my
I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by
See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
Hold on a second baby

I got Old Fashioned Whiskey Cokes or shots

I'm your Whiskey man, baby, stop me when I'm passin' by
See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
Hold on, one more

Well, I'm usually passin' by just about eleven o'clock
Huh ha, I never stop, I'm usually passin' by, just around eleven o'clock
And if you let me cool you one time, you'll be my regular stop
All right boys

I got bim bam banana pops, dixie cups
I'll flavors and push ups too

I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by
See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy, yes
I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by
I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by
They say all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
Ah, one time

I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by
I'm your Whiskey man, stop me when I'm passin' by
They say all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
One time, boys
I'm your Whiskey man
I'm your Whiskey man
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-baby
Ah my, my, my
All my flavors are guaranteed to satis-uh-fy
Ow


Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (YdakM)

77 MILEY. That cucumber is sadly disappointed.

Posted by: CMU VET at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (C+wjz)

78 My 13-year-old niece is blonde. I and family intend to teach her all the dumb blonde jokes, so she can preemptively cut off anybody who tries them on her.


You'll need a brunet as an interpreter.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (yQpMk)

79 Posted by: CMU VET at July 21, 2018 10:20 PM (C+wjz)

Especially rinse it off afterwards Miley.

Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (kiSdp)

80 Insomniac: Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody

♪ I got no money so I can't get laid... ♪

(The world of misheard lyrics.)

(changes channel)

♪ Saturday night and everybody have fu-un.
You don' know but I'm a-havin' me so-ome.
Left me alone thought I would cry-y.
All alone you thought I would die.
Havin' a wild weekend
Havin' a wild weekend
Reelin' and a-rockin'
Rockin' and a-rollin' ♪

Posted by: mindful webworker - Dave Clark not Dick Clark at July 21, 2018 10:27 PM (lMyeR)

81 Anyone seen the Bonobos masculinity commercial? It deserves to be sent to the deepest regions of Hell.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (J70i0)

82 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (txw6d)

That's the second time today you've used the term "team" and I'm picturing them all harnessed to a sleigh, festively snorting steam into the winter night or something.

Tee hee.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (y87Qq)

83 70 I think it's just Duke Wayne, not The Duke. Like I'm Grump, not The Grump.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 21, 2018 10:24 PM (yQpMk)

I'd have to say its 'The Duke', John Wayne...

Just like 'The King' Elvis Presley...

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (NgKpN)

84 I got no money so I can't get laid...

Truth.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (NWiLs)

85 I'd rather have a bourbon truck that drove around playing bluegrass.

Posted by: josephistan at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (Izzlo)

86 ..."Besides, it's uncomfortably large. And unwaxed."
-Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (txw6d)

If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were describing Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (Ckg4U)

87 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3CXmhZoYo

Saor Patrol - "Upyerockye"

Love this music!

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (XoAz8)

88 And they aren't real Ferraris, just copies, with V8 engines. Probably better, more durable cars overall than the actual Ferraris that they copied, but imitations nevertheless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM (bNb8V)

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Yeah, most likely jacked up Ford Windsor 351s with quad 4 barrel double pumpers.

It would be scary as hell to drop the hammer on one of those with such a small, light chassis.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (+1YDx)

89 All this talk of cucumbers has me wondering if this is Nookie Night all over the world.


Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (8kkL4)

90 I lurves black currant.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:25 PM (txw6d)

I have a black currant bush here at stately Peon Manor, but I am lucky to get a half-dozen juicy berries off it. Birds clean me out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (bNb8V)

91 You'll need a brunet as an interpreter.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (yQpMk)

Like she'll remember them 10 minutes later. Plus she'll have to sit perfectly still while hearing them because doing two things at once is too much for a blonde.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (J70i0)

92 89 All this talk of cucumbers has me wondering if this is Nookie Night all over the world.


Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (8kkL4)

Not in my corner of it.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (NWiLs)

93 Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:21 PM (XoAz

I was surprised at how different Scottish (almost forgot the c, which would be embarrassing) pipes sounded from Irish piping. To me Irish was much harsher and strident. I sort of liked the Scottish sound though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 21, 2018 10:30 PM (UENOA)

94 Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe you should try an online dating site.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:30 PM (8kkL4)

95 That's the second time today you've used the term
"team" and I'm picturing them all harnessed to a sleigh, festively
snorting steam into the winter night or something.



Tee hee.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (y87Qq)

A troika, to be precise. They all have to work together. It helps to have a choreographer.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:31 PM (txw6d)

96 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQ-tScuzwM

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 10:31 PM (PUmDY)

97 89
All this talk of cucumbers has me wondering if this is Nookie Night all over the world.







Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (8kkL4)


It's 5 o'clock somewhere.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at July 21, 2018 10:31 PM (sXefu)

98 Kateurday ONT Compliance Videos

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1020731020793065473

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1020731706423332864

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2018 10:31 PM (0Ntuf)

99 Cucumber, cucumber, make me a match!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:31 PM (km8m2)

100 a big ass cucumber, so I brought mine.

Which Moron was saying, a while back, that instead of putting the hyphen before the "ass" word (missing in the above quote) move it to after. I've been applying that since I read it and it's pretty funny.

Big ass-cucumber.

Posted by: mindful webworker - good time-Charlie at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (lMyeR)

101 Anyone seen the Bonobos masculinity commercial?
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (J70i0)


This is the only thing that came to mind for "Bonobo" so... I haven't seen it, no. Probably for the best. I'm OK with this instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZbgyKJkHxQ

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (y87Qq)

102 94 Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe you should try an online dating site.
Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:30 PM (8kkL4)

That would be futile. The studies show the ladies on those dating sights rate 80-90% of the men as below average and thus worthless. I am not in the top 10-20% of men.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (NWiLs)

103 I like the whiskey truck idea.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (sdi6R)

104 Try speed dating. And if you know how to hotwire a car, you can date multiple women in one night all over your county!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (N1ZXu)

105 If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were describing Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite at July 21, 2018 10:28 PM (Ckg4U)

Uncomfortably large, or unwaxed?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (txw6d)

106 OK... need some Horde knowledge...


Need a new truck... don't really want a full size... but 4x4 a must.


so, Chevy Colorado? F150? Tacoma? Dodge?

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (NgKpN)

107 Not in my corner of it.

For some of us tonight is wondering if I will ever finish the pool deck or will the pool deck finish me.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (LOq4H)

108 The Irish Ullean pipes are much sweeter sounding than the scots bag pipes.
Also easier to tune.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commenter at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (w7KSn)

109 John Wayne is the best. His children adored him.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 21, 2018 10:21 PM (+Tibp)

That's high praise for anyone. The first thing that got me to consider Trump seriously was that, even with the divorces, he seemed to have genuinely good relationships with his kids (of all ages). He seems to really like his grandkids too, which is more than can be said for Hillary.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (UENOA)

110 So what does everyone think Anthony Weiner is most likely doing in his jail cell right now?:

a) trying to give himself a blowjob
b) drawing naked women on the wall
c) fapping like the wind

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (km8m2)

111 "Uncomfortably large, or unwaxed?"
-Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (txw6d)

Yes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite at July 21, 2018 10:34 PM (Ckg4U)

112 Yeah, most likely jacked up Ford Windsor 351s with quad 4 barrel double pumpers.

It would be scary as hell to drop the hammer on one of those with such a small, light chassis.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (+1YDx)

Judging from the photo, it's four dual-throat Weber downdraft carbs, so one venturi per cylinder. Keeping the Italian engineering look, too.

I imagine driving it would be very similar to driving a Shelby Cobra.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:34 PM (bNb8V)

113 That would be futile. The studies show the ladies on those dating sights rate 80-90% of the men as below average and thus worthless. I am not in the top 10-20% of men.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (NWiLs)

Have a glass of wine before you write your profile. Have fun with it.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:35 PM (8kkL4)

114 Bueller's Day Off was filmed in Northbrook, just north of where I grew up, in Evanston. I seem to remember driving the Ravines up there where that house is. Fun area of Chicago to grow up, especially back then.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 21, 2018 10:26 PM (sM+h7)

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Well hey there, past almost neighbor. Born and spent the first 24 of my 29 to the 26th anniversary years in Park Ridge. Maine South High School.

Our movie claim to fame was that parts of the Blues Brothers were filmed there.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:35 PM (+1YDx)

115 Besides, it' uncomfortably large. And unwaxed.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:23 PM


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 21, 2018 10:35 PM (DMUuz)

116 a) trying to give himself a blowjob

b) drawing naked women on the wall

c) fapping like the wind

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (km8m2)


d) Shaving my balls.
Tomorrow is "date night".

Posted by: Tony W. at July 21, 2018 10:36 PM (sXefu)

117 113 That would be futile. The studies show the ladies on those dating sights rate 80-90% of the men as below average and thus worthless. I am not in the top 10-20% of men.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:32 PM (NWiLs)

Have a glass of wine before you write your profile. Have fun with it.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:35 PM (8kkL4)

Damn... I've done VERY well with online dating over the years...

Does that mean I'm in the top 20%???


Who woulda thunk it?

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:36 PM (NgKpN)

118 So what does everyone think Anthony Weiner is most likely doing in his jail cell right now?:


Huh. I just looked that up. He's actually in prison.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 10:36 PM (fuK7c)

119 so, Chevy Colorado? F150? Tacoma? Dodge?
Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (NgKpN)

Can't really go wrong with an F150, but Tacomas are pretty much bullet proof if you're looking for a truck to beat the hell out of for work.

Chevy and Dodge trucks have always struck me as flimsy somehow, despite all the bullshit marketing campaigns.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (BRvh1)

120 Need a new truck... don't really want a full size... but 4x4 a must.


so, Chevy Colorado? F150? Tacoma? Dodge?
Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM (NgKpN)

Mahindra? Are there even any mid-size or small pickups left in the North American marketplace?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (bNb8V)

121 Judging from the photo, it's four dual-throat Weber downdraft carbs----



I remember balancing Webers on my Dads MGB.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (YdakM)

122 Who"s bothering you now?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 10:38 PM (PUmDY)

123 That would be futile. The studies show the ladies on
those dating sights rate 80-90% of the men as below average and thus
worthless. I am not in the top 10-20% of men.


Posted by: Insomniac
---
Insomniac - I was in my 50s when I started dating again and used a online dating site. I'm not a good looking guy, just a normal shulb. I dated as much as I wanted too only limited by time and $$ and many times, the ladies asked me out.
I asked my *work spouse* what the hell was up - she told me, *Look dumbass, you're single, have a job, straight, and not a complete ass. That's pretty rare in todays dating scene.*

Maybe give it a try. Im thinking that describes you too. Well, except for the very last part.

Posted by: tonypete at July 21, 2018 10:38 PM (9rIkM)

124 Born and spent the first 24 of my 29 to the 26th anniversary years in Park Ridge. Maine South High School.


You spent 24 years in high school? Whoa!

Posted by: Spiccoli at July 21, 2018 10:38 PM (fuK7c)

125 I remember balancing Webers on my Dads MGB.
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (YdakM)

Friends TR4A.... damn thing had 3 2 barrels...


Ran like a Raped Ape when balanced, but damn it was hard to get to run right...

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:39 PM (NgKpN)

126 Mahindra? Are there even any mid-size or small pickups left in the North American marketplace?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (bNb8V)


Aren't the Rangers supposed to be coming back, and the Hilux coming out in the US next year or something? I thought I heard that.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (y87Qq)

127 Can't really go wrong with an F150, but Tacomas are pretty much bullet proof if you're looking for a truck to beat the hell out of for work.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (BRvh1)

Mr. H hates his F150. It's one of the newer models with the engine that cuts off when sitting still.

I drive a Camry, and it's awesome. I told him he should get the full size Toyota truck, he thinks they are too expensive.

You get what you pay for.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (8kkL4)

128 118 So what does everyone think Anthony Weiner is most likely doing in his jail cell right now?:


Huh. I just looked that up. He's actually in prison.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 10:36 PM (fuK7c)


To think that he was on a fast track to become the Mayor of New York City. So they got DeBolshevik instead.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

129 I have no illusions about my dating market value. I'm not tall, I'm not rich, I'm not high-status, I'm divorced, I'm middle-aged, I have kids, I have no stability and no prospects for the future. As far as that scene goes, I'm basically garbage.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (NWiLs)

130 Gotta go. Not feeling so well. I still have the eight and thirteen-year-old to look after tomorrow.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*waves at Miley*

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (Ckg4U)

131 "you're single, have a job, straight,"

Swee -

"and not a complete ass"

There's ALWAYS a catch. Darn.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (N1ZXu)

132 I remember balancing Webers on my Dads MGB.
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 10:37 PM (YdakM)

If I had cubic $$$, and wanted to reproduce that look, I would gut out the Webers, hide a fuel injection nozzle in each one, and run the whole thing on an ECM like any modern car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (bNb8V)

133 "24 "Here's your chance to purchase a part of history. You can purchase the Ferrari from Ferris Bueller's Day Off."


Before or after it gets destroyed?"

Just stop the movie right before it gets to the destroyed part and then it will be in good condition to buy.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (lD3vL)

134 >> Big ass-cucumber.

I've got one of those.

Posted by: Hope Solo at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (8O3HH)

135 As far as that scene goes, I'm basically garbage.


You underestimate the desperation of women. Set you sights low enough and you will find companionship and wet places for your willie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 10:42 PM (fuK7c)

136 My high school alma mater movie and theater claim to fame..........Grease!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 10:42 PM (DAdSz)

137 Aren't the Rangers supposed to be coming back, and the Hilux coming out in the US next year or something? I thought I heard that.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (y87Qq)

I saw a Ranger at the NY auto show this spring.

Looks like a damn miniature of a Toyota Tundra.

Which is basically the same size as what the F150 used to be before they blew it up into the Ferd F-teen-thousand it is now.

What the hell, Ford. What the hell.

If Toyota does a good job with the Hilux (which I assume will just be a revamped Tacoma with some interior goodies), I might be a buyer.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 10:42 PM (BRvh1)

138 131 "you're single, have a job, straight,"

Swee -

"and not a complete ass"

There's ALWAYS a catch. Darn.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (N1ZXu)


Check.
Check.
Check.
Shit.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

139 Hey rickl, in re: your 665 on the last thread, do you live in or near CT by any chance?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:43 PM (y87Qq)

140
We're in... the Yoko Zone!

Posted by: otho at July 21, 2018 10:43 PM (LkFnL)

141 >> Besides, it' uncomfortably large. And unwaxed.

Those little spines can be a problem, I think. The little bumps might be nice. Waxing would indeed be indicated.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 10:43 PM (8O3HH)

142 Need a new truck... don't really want a full size... but 4x4 a must.
so, Chevy Colorado? F150? Tacoma? Dodge?
Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:33 PM


F150 is full size.

I recently bought a Tundra. I didn't consider the Tacoma, as the current generation has some dissing on the forums compared to the previous one. Toyotas are fantastic longevity-wise.

Ford seems to have some issues with the Eco-boost engines.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (DMUuz)

143 Before or after it gets destroyed?"

Just stop the movie right before it gets to the destroyed part and then it will be in good condition to buy.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 21, 2018 10:41 PM (lD3vL)

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Thus proving not many people read the post content, or follow along down the comments.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (+1YDx)

144 139 Hey rickl, in re: your 665 on the last thread, do you live in or near CT by any chance?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:43 PM (y87Qq)


No, PA.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (sdi6R)

145 No love for Dodge trucks here?

I have a bro-in-law who loves 'em.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (km8m2)

146 I have no illusions about my dating market value. I'm not tall, I'm not rich, I'm not high-status, I'm divorced, I'm middle-aged, I have kids, I have no stability and no prospects for the future. As far as that scene goes, I'm basically garbage.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (NWiLs)

Stop giving excuses, get off your butt and give it a shot. What have you got to lose? I think you're an interesting human being with a lot to offer.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (8kkL4)

147 I've got one of those

Too bad it's attached to a big ass psychotic.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 10:45 PM (LOq4H)

148 No, PA.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (sdi6R)


About how long ago would this have been (the filming at the disused hospital)?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:45 PM (y87Qq)

149 -
--
Big ass-cucumber.


---------------------------------

Ass-Cucumbers are available in many sizes.

-----------------

Posted by: Anal Attentive at July 21, 2018 10:46 PM (BShhQ)

150 And they aren't real Ferraris, just copies, with V8 engines. Probably better, more durable cars overall than the actual Ferraris that they copied, but imitations nevertheless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Ferrari should sell kits.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2018 10:46 PM (7/gO3)

151 Big ass-cucumber.
I've got one of those.
Posted by: Hope Solo


That's nothing. I have a big ass-autocucumber.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 21, 2018 10:46 PM (Tyii7)

152 Goodnight, {{{Slap}}}!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:46 PM (txw6d)

153 Happy Saturday horde, just checking in, I've got some alone time which is very precious to me, I'm going to listen to some music, I'll be back.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 21, 2018 10:46 PM (nWc4E)

154 I have a black currant bush here at stately Peon
Manor, but I am lucky to get a half-dozen juicy berries off it. Birds
clean me out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:29 PM (bNb8V)

Netting.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:47 PM (txw6d)

155 I have a big ass-autocucumber.
Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 21, 2018 10:46 PM (Tyii7)


I continue to insist that you get superior warm analog tone from tube cucumber.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:47 PM (y87Qq)

156 Friends TR4A.... damn thing had 3 2 barrels...


Ran like a Raped Ape when balanced, but damn it was hard to get to run right...
Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:39 PM (NgKpN)

I once worked for couple of years in a VW specialty shop. Some guy brought in a Porsche 911 for a tune-up, and the shop owner saddled me with the job. Did it by the book; back and forth with my Uni-Syn, balancing the airflow between the six venturis of the dual triple-throat Weber carbs. Even did a round-the-block road test, and it seemed OK to me.

And the car's owner was very happy with it, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:47 PM (bNb8V)

157 Nite all, tired here from working outside.

Only day off this week, we worked the Dog Park cookout today. Think we raised about $700. That was worth getting sunburned.

Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2018 10:48 PM (yJ1e6)

158 Dinosaur down! Dinosaur down!

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 10:48 PM (CDGwz)

159 Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:36 PM (NgKpN)

Define "very well". Let's hear some good stories.

Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (kiSdp)

160 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (Zogyx)

161 Cheribebe: For true male hotness, no one beats Yul Brynner.
There's nothing wrong with John Wayne, mind you. I love nothing more than a good John Wayne movie (and the fact that he still drives liberals bat shit crazy), but Sexy Baldy leaves the Duke and any other contender in the dust. Pure sex on two legs.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- formerly Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (luqzw)

162 160 Good evening.
Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (Zogyx)

Says you.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (NWiLs)

163 If I had cubic $$$, and wanted to reproduce that look, I would gut out the Webers, hide a fuel injection nozzle in each one, and run the whole thing on an ECM like any modern car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


I had a 1970 Buick GS 350. If I had cubic $$$ I would own a a restomod of that car. With a LS motor, modern suspension and Wilwood brakes. Oh and cutouts to piss people off occasionally.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (YdakM)

164 148
About how long ago would this have been (the filming at the disused hospital)?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:45 PM (y87Qq)


It was a few years ago. Five? Probably longer than I think.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (sdi6R)

165 I bet Mr. Mike Hammer doesn't bitch when he mixes concrete.
-------------

I use my smartphone app.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (CDGwz)

166 Aston Martin reveals flying car that could hit 200mph (link to Fox Business)

https://tinyurl.com/ydxrkafu

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (km8m2)

167 Dinosaur down! Dinosaur down!

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 10:48 PM (CDGwz)


Yoshi!

Posted by: Mario at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (sXefu)

168 Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (8kkL4)

I have extreme issues with rejection and failure, which also doesn't help.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (NWiLs)

169 Netting.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:47 PM (txw6d)

That's an idea. But the bush is pretty dinky, and it just straggles on and on. Even if the birds got none, and all the berries ripened at once, there wouldn't be enough for a pie.

I should go to a nursery, and get some good berry bushes, and raspberry canes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:51 PM (bNb8V)

170 "Well hey there, past almost neighbor. Born and spent the first 24 of my 29 to the 26th anniversary years in Park Ridge. Maine South High School."
Posted by: Calm Mentor


Hey Calm. Played some football at ETHS, I seem to remember having played you guys. You know, back before I was 29 also.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 21, 2018 10:52 PM (sM+h7)

171 Those little spines can be a problem, I think. The little bumps might be nice. Waxing would indeed be indicated.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 10:43 PM (8O3HH)

They wax 'em to keep the moisture in.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:52 PM (txw6d)

172 Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (CDGwz)

Golf clap

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2018 10:52 PM (3Pma+)

173 If I had cubic $$$, and wanted to reproduce that look, I would gut out the Webers, hide a fuel injection nozzle in each one, and run the whole thing on an ECM like any modern car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The Ferrari mafia would hunt you down and do rude things to you.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 10:53 PM (CDGwz)

174
How about an fully automatic ass-cucumber? Rock 'n' roll buggery.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 10:54 PM (8O3HH)

175 Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 10:40 PM (8kkL4)

You realize you can turn off the stop/start right?

Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 10:54 PM (kiSdp)

176 Captain Josepha, hmm Yul does have a badassedness about him but he was a bit short.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 10:55 PM (DAdSz)

177 Things I've learned about living in San Antonio.

Nice movie theaters (Of those, the best are *not* Alamo Drafthouse).

Liquor is cheaper here.

When surrounded by opportunity it is still possible for someone to fail utterly.

Bummer.

Posted by: Robert fucking gives up at July 21, 2018 10:55 PM (Zogyx)

178 Rock 'n' roll buggery sounds like it's for young people.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:55 PM (txw6d)

179 PK, back now, all clean and softened and good-smelling and stuff!

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at July 21, 2018 10:55 PM (QU+qf)

180 Holy cow. The redacted FISA indictment is shameful. What a bunch of liars.

Posted by: LAsue at July 21, 2018 10:56 PM (Z48ZB)

181 Dating advice:

When you do finally go out with a female, be sure to regale her at length with how you're always depressed, long-time lonely, and never meet anybody nice. Emphasize your worst points. Gets their mommy-sympathy glands going every time.

Says a guy who hasn't dated since Ford pardoned Nixon.

Posted by: mindful webworker - trust me I'm a stable genius at July 21, 2018 10:56 PM (lMyeR)

182 PK, back now, all clean and softened and good-smelling and stuff!

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at July 21, 2018 10:55 PM (QU+qf)

Would you like a cucumber?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:56 PM (txw6d)

183 Yeah... I need a 4x4 for skiing... want a full size bed to haul toys...

Really hard to find a damn truck under 35K...

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:56 PM (NgKpN)

184 Hey Calm. Played some football at ETHS, I seem to remember having played you guys. You know, back before I was 29 also.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 21, 2018 10:52 PM (sM+h7)

------------

I'm sure we did, and if the timing was right, you may have seen me on the field. I was the running back in the white/red away game jersey, if we were playing on your turf.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (+1YDx)

185 Says you.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:49 PM (NWiLs)

It's a social nicety one abides by and never means. I'm being....shit, what's the word...polite.

Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (Zogyx)

186 At what height would you describe a woman as "tall"?

Survey says...?

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (XoAz8)

187 Posted by: mindful webworker - trust me I'm a stable genius at July 21, 2018 10:56 PM (lMyeR)

I don't think that would be an effective strategy. Gals want winners, not losers.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (NWiLs)

188 John Wayne had an Airedale dog named "Duke" which is reported to be the source of his nickname.

Posted by: Marion Morrison at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (eQiEB)

189 My Tribe is takin' it to the Rangers. Wahoo.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (Tyii7)

190 It was a few years ago. Five? Probably longer than I think.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (sdi6R)


Allentown?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (y87Qq)

191 5' 10" or taller.

Posted by: CMU VET at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (C+wjz)

192 At what height would you describe a woman as "tall"?



Survey says...?

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (XoAz

5'8" and up?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (txw6d)

193 Good news: I found a tasty-sounding New Mexico red chile sauce recipe online today.

Bad news: It was at a site called "Brand New Vegan." Hmmm...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (km8m2)

194 Aston Martin reveals flying car that could hit 200mph (link to Fox Business)

https://tinyurl.com/ydxrkafu
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:50 PM (km8m2)

Well, they haven't revealed a flying car. They have revealed their concept of what a flying car might look like. And they all look goofy as hell. And ready to auger into the ground if one motor stops running. Go long on a accident-scene chalk.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (bNb8V)

195 5'9" and up. cause down sorta defeats the whole "tall" thing.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (LOq4H)

196 It's a social nicety one abides by and never means. I'm being....shit, what's the word...polite.
Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (Zogyx)

Heh. It's like when someone asks "How are you?" and you say "fine" or some such. They don't really want to know how you are, and you aren't going to tell them how you're really doing, either.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (NWiLs)

197 192 At what height would you describe a woman as "tall"?



Survey says...?

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (XoAz

5'8" and up?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (txw6d)

Yup...


Now if women on dating sites could just figure out what the hell SLENDER means...


/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (NgKpN)

198 AOP, wait 'til you see your insurance bill :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (km8m2)

199 Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 21, 2018 10:44 PM (DMUuz)

Are Tacomas still breaking camshaft and tailgates?

Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 11:00 PM (kiSdp)

200 I thnk women are considered tall over 5 ft 7 inches

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:00 PM (DAdSz)

201 >> At what height would you describe a woman as "tall"?

Taller than you? Like the liberal definition of rich.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:00 PM (8O3HH)

202 RANT of the DAY

When the Supergirl TV series started, I had some hope for it. They actress they cast was picture-perfect from the comics, and cute in the suit to boot. I liked the way they were promoting the show as kid-friendly, showing little girls dressed up super and looking up to her. Maybe this would rescue the character after that sad Supergirl movie.

Season 1 was tolerable. They had fun. They hat-tipped old series with the movie Supergirl as Mom and the Lois & Clark Clark actor as Dad. They made short, red-headed, freckle-faced Jimmy Olson into a big black guy because of course they did. Calista had some good lines.

Season 2 was Lesbian Action Gals - neither integral to the storytelling nor erotic, so plainly there only for social justice warrioring. Also, in DC-CW universe, Supergirl proves stronger, faster, and smarter than Superman. Because of course she is.

Season 3 toned down the Lez stuff a little bit, but then at the end they went all anti-2A. The agency supposed to defend us from extraterrestrial threats decided to use sandbags and rubber bullets instead of all the high-tech weaponry they had that's proven to work against rampaging superpowered extraterrestrials. Because of course.

And now Season 4 trailer comes out.

"The Universe is vast.
They come from outer space. [shot of many spaceships in the sky]
They take our jobs, our culture...."

I can see where this is going. Arrgggh. No thank you. For three seasons we've seen how extraterrestrial refugees have not only been welcomed to earth, but are fitting right in, when they can, assimilating and drinking at bars. Like Men in Black. Suddenly now we have to go all open borders for an invading mass because Trump?

As Bill the Cat would say, pttthhhbbbb.

/END RANT

Had to go somewhere, or I'd've had to save it as a text file and then I'd never see it again because too many files.

Posted by: mindful webworker - trust me I'm a stable genius at July 21, 2018 11:00 PM (lMyeR)

203 Bad news: It was at a site called "Brand New Vegan." Hmmm...
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (km8m2)


There's absolutely nothing wrong, in and of itself, with a vegan dish. Especially a sauce or a side. Guacamole is vegan.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:01 PM (y87Qq)

204 At what height would you describe a woman as "tall"?

Survey says...?
Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 10:57 PM (XoAz

-----------

That is all relative. I'm 6'1", so 5'11" or more is a tall woman to me.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 11:01 PM (+1YDx)

205 mindful webworker, didn't the original Xena go full... uh... Subaru Outback after a few years on the air??

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:02 PM (km8m2)

206 At what height would you describe a woman as "tall"?


I'm 5'9" so any woman who's boobs are in my face if we are dancing.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:02 PM (YdakM)

207 hogmartin, true.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:02 PM (km8m2)

208 The Ferrari mafia would hunt you down and do rude things to you.
Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 10:53 PM (CDGwz)

Well, I wouldn't do that to a realFerrari, just to one of those ersatz ones, or to any V8 that was tricked out with multiple Webers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (bNb8V)

209 194
Well, they haven't revealed a flying car. They have revealed their concept of what a flying car might look like. And they all look goofy as hell. And ready to auger into the ground if one motor stops running. Go long on a accident-scene chalk.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (bNb8V)


A traffic jam with flying cars would be a memorable sight.

If you were safely on the ground and far enough away from the carnage.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (sdi6R)

210 Are Tacomas still breaking camshaft and tailgates?
Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 11:00 PM (kiSdp)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AyI58aByko

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (y87Qq)

211 "
I once worked for couple of years in a VW specialty shop. Some guy brought in a Porsche 911 for a tune-up, and the shop owner saddled me with the job. Did it by the book; back and forth with my Uni-Syn, balancing the airflow between the six venturis of the dual triple-throat Weber carbs. Even did a round-the-block road test, and it seemed OK to me.

And the car's owner was very happy with it, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"


Which reminds me, I need to synchronize the 4 Kelhins on my 1980 cafe CB750.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (sM+h7)

212 Heh. It's like when someone asks "How are you?" and you say "fine" or some such. They don't really want to know how you are, and you aren't going to tell them how you're really doing, either.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (NWiLs)

Them: How are you?

Me: Just took a shit that could choke a donkey and could swear I lost an inch around my waist so pretty goddamn good. What about you?

Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (Zogyx)

213
A traffic jam with flying cars would be a memorable sight.

If you were safely on the ground and far enough away from the carnage.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (sdi6R)

Negative Maverick, the Pattern is full....

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (NgKpN)

214 5'6" is pretty tall for a goil.

Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 11:04 PM (Zogyx)

215
I once worked for couple of years in a VW specialty shop. Some guy brought in a Porsche 911 for a tune-up, and the shop owner saddled me with the job. Did it by the book; back and forth with my Uni-Syn, balancing the airflow between the six venturis of the dual triple-throat Weber carbs. Even did a round-the-block road test, and it seemed OK to me.

And the car's owner was very happy with it, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-------------

I've had two cars with two-throat sidedrafts, a Datsun 510, and a Mazda CLC. In both cases, fitted by myself.

I had (damn, do I still have it?) a nifty carb synching device. It's made of plastic, and uses a very light vane which is attached to an indicator needle and scale.

And, I had a Unisyn also, which I handed off to someone, sometime.

Then...there were the Carb sticks, used for balancing four-carb bikes. They were, of course, mercury filled (we're all gonna die!). Sold those.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:04 PM (xSo9G)

216
I just looked at the Gaussian for female height in the US. Mean is about 5' 4" ish, and 1 sigma is about 3".

A "tall woman" seems to be defined as > 2 sigma, which would be 5' 10". Very tall would be 6', 3 sigma.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:04 PM (8O3HH)

217 5'8" and up?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:58 PM (txw6d)


Hooray! I'm tall for a woman!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:04 PM (y87Qq)

218 @180
As heavily redacted as it is, it reveals breathtaking corruption and criminality.

If I were Trump I would EO everything out in unredacted form.

I love how they redacted the date of the application and exactly what they were asking the court to allow them to do as well as who assembled the FISA and host of other important facts.

Jeff Sessions is a disgrace.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2018 11:04 PM (UfMVm)

219 Lesbian Action Gals

meh

Posted by: Itinerant Lesbians at July 21, 2018 11:04 PM (Tyii7)

220 Now if women on dating sites could just figure out what the hell SLENDER means...


/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 10:59 PM (NgKpN)

"Slender": has to walk past a place twice to cast a shadow.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:05 PM (bNb8V)

221 Tall is one thing, but 3'6" can be the perfect height.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (fuK7c)

222 So this is a sample of me when dealing with women I don't know. This happened today.

>bookstore with a Starbucks
>feel a case of the sadz coming on
>buy a book
>go to the Starbucks and order a big comfy decaf
>sit down at a chair, there's another one
>someone about my age comes in
>okay if I sit here?, she says
>sure, I say, smiling
>she orders some drink or other
>she comes back
>she says 'thank you'
>I joke, well, sure, it's not MY chair
>she gets up again, comes back, a few times
>I wave at her and smile the first time she comes back
>then she packs up her stuff and leaves
>I finish my coffee
>I walk back to the bookstore
>she is sitting on a chair over there

I just make women uncomfortable (or else they pity me, or worse) and that is something I have come to terms with.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (N1ZXu)

223 Slender? Was a great diet drink back in the 1970s and 80s. Great vanilla and chocolate flavors. You could get it in a powder or ready-made in a can.

Tasted remarkably like what the Boost energy drinks for seniors today, taste like...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (km8m2)

224 Ah! Found a pic of the vane type carb tool:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc2x3yej

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (xSo9G)

225 Now if women on dating sites could just figure out what the hell SLENDER means...

5'4" and 190 pounds =! slender

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (NWiLs)

226 Posted by: mindful webworker - trust me I'm a stable genius at July 21, 2018 11:00 PM (lMyeR)

The original show runner was a male feminist and was fired for being creepy grabass piece of shit.

Did you see thhave trailer for the new Titans live action series?

Posted by: Robert at July 21, 2018 11:07 PM (Zogyx)

227 Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:03 PM (y87Qq)

Yeah I better get out and buy one of them there Toyletas...buy F150. You can get it with an 8 foot bed too.

Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 11:07 PM (kiSdp)

228 OK, back now, all clean and softened and good-smelling and stuff!

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at July 21, 2018 10:55 PM (QU+qf)

Would you like a cucumber?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess


Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at July 21, 2018 11:08 PM (QU+qf)

229 >> Lesbian Action Gals

I'm sure that title is available on Pronhub.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:08 PM (8O3HH)

230 Tasted remarkably like what the Boost energy drinks for seniors today, taste like...

Despair and BenGay?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:08 PM (LOq4H)

231 I would say a woman is tall if in standard heels they exceed 5ft-9in
So about 5ft7in in bare feet.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2018 11:08 PM (UfMVm)

232 >> So about 5ft7in in bare feet.

5' 7" is + 1 sigma. 5' 10" is 2 sigma.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:09 PM (8O3HH)

233 Now if women on dating sites could just figure out what the hell SLENDER means...
------------

I'd settle for Ebay sellers figuring out what 'In good condition' means.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:10 PM (xSo9G)

234 I have already done the Terrain analysis. Two armored brigades could sweep down from Vancouver and be attacking Seattle in three hours. Add some infantry and they could own the city by morning.
The rest of us could be rid of them, Seattleites would welcome the liberators, and the Canucks could put those tanks to one final good use. Win Win all around.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2018 11:10 PM (0tfLf)

235 5'4" and 190 pounds =! slender
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (NWiLs)

But we have to ask ourselves...

How big is her bank account?

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:10 PM (Zogyx)

236 I just make women uncomfortable (or else they pity me, or worse) and that is something I have come to terms with.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (N1ZXu)

Sorry dude. That sucks. Nobody even comes near me at all. I must give off some kind of vibe that makes people avoid me. I'm some kind of weird freak I guess.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

237 Chevy Chase could have used that cap closer in Caddy Shack.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 21, 2018 11:11 PM (2DOZq)

238 Mike, I think eBay is pretty much dying at this point.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:11 PM (km8m2)

239 I just make women uncomfortable (or else they pity me, or worse) and that is something I have come to terms with.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (N1ZXu)

Sounds like she was hoping for you to make conversation, and try to pick her up, but gave up on you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:11 PM (bNb8V)

240 Dated a girl taller than me she was fun.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:12 PM (YdakM)

241
Despair and BenGay?
Posted by: some rat in the swamp
------------

Barely detectable overtone of urine.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:12 PM (xSo9G)

242 lol

Posted by: SMH at July 21, 2018 11:12 PM (ywKik)

243 225
5'4" and 190 pounds =! slender
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (NWiLs)


Depends on what she looks like, but that could get my attention.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (sdi6R)

244 Sorry dude. That sucks. Nobody even comes near me at all. I must give off some kind of vibe that makes people avoid me. I'm some kind of weird freak I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

Ya'll need a girl whisperer.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (2DOZq)

245 235 5'4" and 190 pounds =! slender
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (NWiLs)

But we have to ask ourselves...

How big is her bank account?
Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:10 PM (Zogyx)

I leave the gold digging to the women and John Kerry. BIRM.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (NWiLs)

246 Yeah I better get out and buy one of them there Toyletas...buy F150. You can get it with an 8 foot bed too.
Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 11:07 PM (kiSdp)


That probably would have happened to any truck if you tried to tow it with the rear wheels locked up like that, but I don't know the whole story behind it. It's just kind of hard to stop watching.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (y87Qq)

247 Mike, I think eBay is pretty much dying at this point.
Posted by: qdpsteve
------------

I don't use it often, and usually for obscure parts. Just today received a used print head for my HP printer. We shall see.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (xSo9G)

248 'm sure that title is available on Pronhub.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:08 PM (8O3HH)

Checked and it returned a bunch of fake aGal Gadot and Wonder Woman videos.

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (Zogyx)

249 234 I have already done the Terrain analysis. Two armored brigades could sweep down from Vancouver and be attacking Seattle in three hours. Add some infantry and they could own the city by morning.
The rest of us could be rid of them, Seattleites would welcome the liberators, and the Canucks could put those tanks to one final good use. Win Win all around.

There's a bad choke point just south of B'ham
once past that, you should be able to not only do Seattle, but let Portland know where the bear shite in the buckwheat.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (LOq4H)

250 234. Diogenes - your enthusiasm is to be commended, but GECSPLAN is already in place, and there's no place for Leafs in it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (fA1SL)

251 I have already done the Terrain analysis. Two armored brigades could sweep down from Vancouver and be attacking Seattle in three hours. Add some infantry and they could own the city by morning.
The rest of us could be rid of them, Seattleites would welcome the liberators, and the Canucks could put those tanks to one final good use. Win Win all around.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2018 11:10 PM (0tfLf)

Naw, they'd get hung up in the Greater Seattle I-5 traffic jam, and run out of gas somewhere near Sedro Wooley.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (bNb8V)

252 Now if women on dating sites could just figure out what the hell SLENDER means...

---------------

Hell, based on admittedly somewhat dated experience, I would be happy if they could figure out what "Body Type=Average" means.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (+1YDx)

253
218 @180
As heavily redacted as it is, it reveals breathtaking corruption and criminality.

If I were Trump I would EO everything out in unredacted form.

I love how they redacted the date of the application and exactly what they were asking the court to allow them to do as well as who assembled the FISA and host of other important facts.

Jeff Sessions is a disgrace.


This just has to shake something or someone loose. Knowing what we know now, this truly is a total disgrace to our system of justice

Posted by: LAsue at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (Z48ZB)

254 While there's no "perfect" truck, I can attest to the fact that Ford builds-in more hidden strength and structure, than any of it's competition.

This, in places the customer would never see, unless said truck is in a body shop being mended after a shunt.

No, I'm not going to list all of those built-up features, but they're there and they're real.

That being established though, the Chevy 1500s (now they call 'em Silverado, which used to be the badge reserved for the top end trim option, but I digress...)

Anyway, the 1500 will run and stay on the highway every bit as long as the ford, as witnessed by AOP's vaunted Suburbans.

But, we're talking about un-wrecked, or un-majorly damaged units here.

Oh, and a second case in point. You could remove all of the suspension and axles from an F-150 Raptor, stuff it all under any of the competition, and you'd still have a far weaker truck in structural terms, than the F-150.

Takes more than just the underbits of a Raptor, to make a Raptor.

Still, for the everyday truck owner? Buy any of the Big Three, and you won't go wrong.

Toyota is durable, but thirsty.

Nissan? Still not in the running, in my book, for a myriad of reasons.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (QzJWU)

255 244 Sorry dude. That sucks. Nobody even comes near me at all. I must give off some kind of vibe that makes people avoid me. I'm some kind of weird freak I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

Ya'll need a girl whisperer.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (2DOZq)

I don't know what I need. I can't even make eye contact with a chick in public without her instantly looking away.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)

256 The commercials I REALLY don't trust are for this new(er) auction site, DealDash.

"I got this brand new fully-loaded 2019 Lamborghini Aventador for twelve cents at DealDash dot com!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:15 PM (km8m2)

257 I was just curious to see if perceptions had changed over time. Going through my MIL's hoarder house and I found a parish bulletin from 1946 with an ad for a women's "tall" shop for ladies 5'7" and up.

Call Hemlock 1778 to make an appointment for a fitting.

I'm a bit over 5'7" and don't really think of myself as tall.

Anyway, I love this bulletin, it's charming, and they have a lovely tribute to the parishioners who died in WWII. It's the best thing I've pulled from the rathole... That and a vintage beaded Lemured handbag that my daughter fell in love with. It is beautiful.

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (XoAz8)

258 245 235 5'4" and 190 pounds =! slender
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (NWiLs)

But we have to ask ourselves...

How big is her bank account?
Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:10 PM (Zogyx)

I leave the gold digging to the women and John Kerry. BIRM.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (NWiLs)

Yup... Dated a Woman who was a multi millionaire a couple times in Denver...

Cheapest damn woman I ever met...

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (NgKpN)

259 Ya'll need a girl whisperer.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 21, 2018 11:13 PM (2DOZq)

I'm pretty sure I have tinitus so you're gonna have to speak louder.

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (Zogyx)

260 Like I said, in the dating world, I'm garbage.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (NWiLs)

261 Nissan? Their ramen noodles are tasty.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (km8m2)

262 5'4" and 190 pounds =! slender ---
Megan McCain? She has at least 40 of her pounds in her boobs.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (YdakM)

263 255
I can't even make eye contact with a chick in public without her instantly looking away.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)


That's better than the wrinkling their nose with scorn look.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:17 PM (sdi6R)

264 Five four and almost 200 lbs?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:17 PM (PUmDY)

265 248 'm sure that title is available on Pronhub.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:08 PM (8O3HH)

Checked and it returned a bunch of fake aGal Gadot and Wonder Woman videos.
Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (Zogyx)

BRB...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

266 I don't use it often, and usually for obscure parts. Just today received a used print head for my HP printer. We shall see.
Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (xSo9G)


eBay used to be good for getting lightly-used kit from people who traded up to the latest and greatest. Now it's all full-price new in box stuff - which is fine, but I can get it faster and a few bucks cheaper elsewhere - and eleventy billion identical storefronts selling the same CNC-milled aluminum part from Shenzhen. Which is fine for a lot of things, but it can be really hard to find a factory original in the search results clutter.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:18 PM (y87Qq)

267 The rest of us could be rid of them, Seattleites would welcome the liberators, and the Canucks could put those tanks to one final good use. Win Win all around.
Posted by: Diogenes
------------

Perhaps emboldened by success, they could grab off Detroit also. Hell, CN could have those tanks loaded up and over to Windsor by the next day.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:19 PM (xSo9G)

268
Supergirl "vs." Wonder Woman.

I'm sure that's been done.

Poison Ivy vs. Catwoman has.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:19 PM (8O3HH)

269 Shot some more film today, then headed over to Jewbilly Orchards. All the main house really needs is a new roof. And to get the oak tree out of the front parlor.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:20 PM (fA1SL)

270 Watching the first episode of the rebooted In Search Of.

Not bad,

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:20 PM (e7oj4)

271 That's better than the wrinkling their nose with scorn look

When I was 16 my dad took me aside and said:
"Son they all do it, just damn few are going to do it with you." sniff, how I miss that man.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:20 PM (LOq4H)

272 That's better than the wrinkling their nose with scorn look.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:17 PM (sdi6R)

Or getting Maced, I guess. Still, it's really fucking depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:20 PM (NWiLs)

273 266. Dude. EBay? Alibaba.com - go to the source.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (fA1SL)

274 Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 11:16 PM (NgKpN)

She's a millionaire because she's cheap?

Posted by: clutch at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (kiSdp)

275 I used to sell things on eBay, but I haven't in quite a while.
They charge too much, their shipping calculator sucks, and the buyer can rip you off too easily.

Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (8kkL4)

276 Still, for the everyday truck owner? Buy any of the Big Three, and you won't go wrong.
Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (QzJWU)


Don't care. Wanna Pinzgauer.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (y87Qq)

277 Yup... Dated a Woman who was a multi millionaire a couple times in Denver...

Cheapest damn woman I ever met...
Posted by: Don Q


My boss set me up for a date with a rich chick. She was a big gal and the payments would have been yuge for all the things she would buy me. So one date and out.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (YdakM)

278 logprof, I didn't even know there *was* a new In Search Of.

Today's topics should be juicy.

IN SEARCH OF:

... Madonna's modesty
... The Social Security lockbox
... Hillary's smoking gun

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:22 PM (km8m2)

279 I just make women uncomfortable (or else they pity me, or worse) and that is something I have come to terms with.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (N1ZXu)

Yea...I don't know. She did ask to sit with you. Maybe it is bcz you didn't attempt conversation with her so she thought you were not interested. I have never done what she did, but if I had, and then the guy ignored me after saying it wasn't his chair, I'd prolly think I was invading his space. Unless I'm missing something in this story.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:22 PM (vFd8X)

280 I'm available!

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 21, 2018 11:22 PM (Tyii7)

281 Nissan? Still not in the running, in my book, for a myriad of reasons.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM (QzJWU)

My neighbor has an 08 Nissan Titan, and it seems very Ford-like. Even has the same issue as some Ford models, in that getting to the rear spark plugs calls for lifting the cab off the chassis.

I dissected the cab of a '95 Silverado today. There is a lot of metal in the cowl area, not so much in the rest of the cab. A metal-cutting blade in a reciprocating saw does well on the frames and pillars, and a panel cutter in an air hammer for the flat areas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:22 PM (bNb8V)

282 BRB...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

Someone at Pornhub must surely be curious about a new trending search about now.

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:23 PM (Zogyx)

283 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:06 PM (N1ZXu)

Having met you at the last Morondevous I know there is nothing overtly wrong with you

thing is, I was always powerfully awkward around women. Still am, in reality, but I somehow lucked out and landed Mrs. Mahon. So for me, the pressure's off.

So, I guess I have no advice, other than endeavor to persevere.

You are good people, sir.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:24 PM (EhZNT)

284 Or getting Maced, I guess. Still, it's really fucking depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac
---During my last annual physical, I told my GP that my eyes burned after sex. He just said *hmmmm* but the nurse piped up - I'll bet it's the pepper spray.

Posted by: Just the punchline at July 21, 2018 11:24 PM (9rIkM)

285 Dude. EBay? Alibaba.com - go to the source.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (fA1SL)


No, I don't want the Chinese stuff. I want the option to filter it out at least. Sometimes it's fine, but sometimes I don't want it cluttering up the results 10:1 and crowding out the used OEM stuff.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:24 PM (y87Qq)

286 There's a bad choke point just south of B'ham
once past that, you should be able to not only do Seattle, but let Portland know where the bear shite in the buckwheat.
Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:14 PM

Xxxxxxxx

That will not work. Oregon is about to put a $7.00 toll on the bridges and that would break the Canadian defense budget.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2018 11:24 PM (0tfLf)

287 Don't care. Wanna Pinzgauer.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (y87Qq)

What about a Halflinger?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:25 PM (bNb8V)

288 278 logprof, I didn't even know there *was* a new In Search Of.

Today's topics should be juicy.

IN SEARCH OF:

... Madonna's modesty
... The Social Security lockbox
... Hillary's smoking gun
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:22 PM (km8m2)

--First ep is actually about aliens.

History doubled down and had Zachary Quinto be the host.

I figured, what the hell, I'm down for a couple of episodes.

Doubt Hillary's bank account will be a focus.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:25 PM (e7oj4)

289 Gotta say - a man could get used to 'summering' in the mountains and passing the winter in Texas. Been here since late May, and no regrets when I see weather reports of highs of 105 back 'home.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:25 PM (fA1SL)

290 One problem for men getting old is that young women still look really, really good.

So we reflexively smile at them. We can't help it. We're wired that way.

They're all like, "EEW! Get away from me, perv!"

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:26 PM (sdi6R)

291 Crickets are loud as shit

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:26 PM (PUmDY)

292 @270
The hysterical thing is that it's hosted by Zachery Quinto who plays spock in the rebooted movies.
Zachery Quinto made noises that he was getting tired of playing Spock and didn't want to get type cast.

So him hosting a rebooted series that was fronted by Leonard Nimoy is ironic*.


* I believe this is the proper illustration of irony, it's so hard to tell these days.



Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2018 11:26 PM (UfMVm)

293 Yea...I don't know. She did ask to sit with you. Maybe it is bcz you didn't attempt conversation with her so she thought you were not interested. I have never done what she did, but if I had, and then the guy ignored me after saying it wasn't his chair, I'd prolly think I was invading his space. Unless I'm missing something in this story.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel


Bingo.

Posted by: Eleanor: my spirit animal is Bill the Cat at July 21, 2018 11:26 PM (QU+qf)

294 What about a Halflinger?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:25 PM (bNb8V)


You know what, sure, why not.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:27 PM (y87Qq)

295 17 I love John Wayne. The world needs more men like him, he smoked, he drank, he was tough as nails and hot as hell!
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 10:05 PM (DAdSz)


Boy did he ever smoke. Six packs a day. Six packs. Every day.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:27 PM (h2Bdk)

296 platypus/gumdrop/gorilla - I waved and smiled, which I thought was an invitation that a conversation could happen. Maybe that was too 'beta'. idk.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (N1ZXu)

297 That will not work. Oregon is about to put a $7.00 toll on the bridges and that would break the Canadian defense budget.

Bah! Mere childs play, OUR Gov wants to charge for EVERY mile one drives IN THE STATE...so a tax on Eastern WA.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (LOq4H)

298 Yea...I don't know. She did ask to sit with you. Maybe it is bcz you didn't attempt conversation with her so she thought you were not interested.


Two things: (i) You never know whether you're both in an I want to meet someone space. So you can be in the mood and picking up signals and she's oblivious because she's not in that state of mind.

(C) To overcome that ambiguity, you go for the most non-creepy compliment you can come up with. "Good gosh, I hope you don't mind a random compliment, but you are stunningly cute".

Or, you know, ask for her phone # and send a dick pic.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (fuK7c)

299 I can't even make eye contact with a chick in public without her instantly looking away.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)



Ya know, I do that. Even if I think the guy is cute. I don't know why. It really makes it hard on them...they have to chance talking to me then. I try not to do it, but it is automatic. So don't take it too hard. Maybe they are like me. Or maybe they have a bf & don't want to encourage you. Maybe that's why I do it, actually. Auto-pilot from my previous relationships. Huh, never thought about that before.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (vFd8X)

300 and thanks Pug Mahon.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (N1ZXu)

301 No, I don't want the Chinese stuff. I want the option to filter it out at least. Sometimes it's fine, but sometimes I don't want it cluttering up the results 10:1 and crowding out the used OEM stuff.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:24 PM (y87Qq)

eBay has become real bad for "keyword spamming", and they seem to be resolutely determined to do nothing about it. I will do a search for "Studebaker parts", and get ninety listings for faggy blue headlamp bulbs, and USB chargers that fit in the cigar lighter socket.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:29 PM (bNb8V)

302 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2018 11:29 PM (a66nm)

303 He smoked six packs a day and still lived to be 72, not too bad really.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (DAdSz)

304 Posted by: ALH at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (8kkL4)

What did you sell?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (3Pma+)

305 Cheribebe, ever hear Nina Blackwood on SiriusXM 80s on 8?

Her voice sounds she smokes at LEAST six packs a day, and has been for a long time. OMG.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:31 PM (km8m2)

306 Find out the most popular cologne women like, buy a puppy and a kitten, borrow a baby, rent a Lamborghini and drive all of you to a Michael Buble concert . You should be able to attract at least one or two females.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (2DOZq)

307 One problem for men getting old is that young women still look really, really good.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:26 PM (

I'd add that not only do young women look really good, but the older you get younger women look even better.

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (Zogyx)

308 Her voice sounds she smokes at LEAST six packs a day, and has been for a long time. OMG

Thought that about Kim Carnes (sp?)

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (LOq4H)

309 Posted by: platypus, gg channel


Bingo.
Posted by: Eleanor: my spirit animal is Bill the Cat at July 21, 2018 11:26 PM (QU+qf)

Not all men are slick playboys adept at scoring chicks. My one move was crippling awkwardness.

It worked exactly one time.

That and Bacardi 151. The future Mrs. Mahon was also in her cups.


But it worked.

Hang in there, BTH.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (EhZNT)

310 My boss set me up for a date with a rich chick. She was a big gal and the payments would have been yuge for all the things she would buy me. So one date and out.
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:21 PM (YdakM)

----------

I married one that came from a moderately wealthy family, but was not wealthy when we married. We did things together, pooled our cash, and got along just great. I was contributing 2x the income to hers, which was helpful in getting along so well.

Her 2 parents passed about 10 years into the marriage, and as soon as she had posession of their money, all that changed. I actually suggested taking a part of that money and paying off the house (it was about 1.6 million that she got).

Her answer? "That money was meant for ME, and to pass it down to our daughter". The beginning of the end.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (+1YDx)

311 He smoked six packs a day and still lived to be 72, not too bad really.
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (DAdSz)

I remember seeing John Wayne's yacht, the Grey Goose, which was a converted minesweeper, in the waters of Georgia Strait, near Bowen Island. He enjoyed fishing around there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (bNb8V)

312 Ya know, I do that. Even if I think the guy is cute. I don't know why. It really makes it hard on them...they have to chance talking to me then. I try not to do it, but it is automatic. So don't take it too hard. Maybe they are like me. Or maybe they have a bf & don't want to encourage you. Maybe that's why I do it, actually. Auto-pilot from my previous relationships. Huh, never thought about that before.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (vFd8X)

That's interesting I guess but when it's a universal response it's not them it's me.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (NWiLs)

313 303 He smoked six packs a day and still lived to be 72, not too bad really.
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (DAdSz)


Yes, it's pretty good luck. My dad smoked two packs a day and had a heart attack at age 50. Still alive almost 30 years later, though.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:33 PM (h2Bdk)

314 Occupy all of it. What does that mean?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:33 PM (PUmDY)

315 platypus/gumdrop/gorilla - I waved and smiled, which I thought was an invitation that a conversation could happen. Maybe that was too 'beta'. idk.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (N1ZXu)


Without being there it is hard to know. I'm just saying it isn't necessarily a rejection...or something bad about you. Unless you didn't shower, or smelled like Old Spice. I hate Old Spice.

Could be many reasons. The wave and smile when she was sitting right there may have been creepy. Especially if she was nervous and doesn't do this a lot. Also, don't know ages, and that can impact things.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:34 PM (vFd8X)

316 311 He smoked six packs a day and still lived to be 72, not too bad really.
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (DAdSz)

I remember seeing John Wayne's yacht, the Grey Goose, which was a converted minesweeper, in the waters of Georgia Strait, near Bowen Island. He enjoyed fishing around there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (bNb8V)


He loved the ocean and hated flying. So what did they do when he died? Named the airport after him.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:34 PM (h2Bdk)

317 qdp I love Nina Blackwood and listen to her on XM radio. She has a bourbon and cigarettes voice. Did back in the 80s too.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:34 PM (DAdSz)

318 Former President Barack H. Obama had a slip of the tongue during a speech in Kogelo, Kenya today: He was not born in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQqZO8H7F8w

Posted by: ahem at July 21, 2018 11:34 PM (lKGzI)

319 Five four and almost 200 lbs?



Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:17 PM (PUmDY)


Well, ok. I'm 250.

Posted by: Sonia Sotomayor at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (sXefu)

320 I've been doing a lot of ebaying lately...the sellers are jerks. $19.75 to ground ship a four inch by five inch box that's mostly styrofoam? Really? GFY.

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (XoAz8)

321 Could be many reasons. The wave and smile when she was sitting right there may have been creepy. Especially if she was nervous and doesn't do this a lot. Also, don't know ages, and that can impact things.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:34 PM (vFd8X)

A wave and smile could be taken as a polite dismissal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (bNb8V)

322 Dudes, don't wave to a lady. Hoist your glass, give her a nod and a smirk, and then look away as you take a drink.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (fA1SL)

323 Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody


Posted by: Insomniac


You and Ted Williams

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (2s3aR)

324 I remember seeing John Wayne's yacht, the Grey Goose, which was a converted minesweeper, in the waters of Georgia Strait, near Bowen Island. He enjoyed fishing around there.

Yes, he loved Puget Sound...the Station I worked for lost its cook for two weeks when he showed up.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (LOq4H)

325 He smoked six packs a day and still lived to be 72, not too bad really.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (DAdSz)

72 isn't so young, right? Until it's less than 10 years away. Then you think, holy crap...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (txw6d)

326 323 Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody


Posted by: Insomniac


You and Ted Williams
Posted by: JT at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (2s3aR)

Well. Things just suddenly came to a head.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (NWiLs)

327 What is your problem with Old Spice?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (PUmDY)

328 303 He smoked six packs a day and still lived to be 72, not too bad really.
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:30 PM (DAdSz)


I certainly did like my cigarettes, but I couldn't even imagine six packs a day.

I suspect he would light one, take a puff, then leave it in an ashtray and forget about it. Then light another one, etc. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (sdi6R)

329 317 qdp I love Nina Blackwood and listen to her on XM radio. She has a bourbon and cigarettes voice. Did back in the 80s too.
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:34 PM (DAdSz)

--Nina Blackwood or Martha Quinn? Classic dilemma.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (e7oj4)

330 Her answer? "That money was meant for ME, and to pass it down to our daughter". The beginning of the end.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
----
Ouch!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (9rIkM)

331 Ace*s liver, my gramma smoked Chesterfields and drank black coffee. That was her main nutrient source. She died at 83 years old and sharp and honey as ever.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (DAdSz)

332 320 I've been doing a lot of ebaying lately...the sellers are jerks. $19.75 to ground ship a four inch by five inch box that's mostly styrofoam? Really? GFY.
Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (XoAz


I used to work in logistics. Even back before the internet it was pretty common for companies to make all their profit on the shipping.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (h2Bdk)

333 322 Dudes, don't wave to a lady. Hoist your glass, give her a nod and a smirk, and then look away as you take a drink.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (fA1SL)

Finish your drink and go home alone.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (NWiLs)

334 Fuck me, I'm talking to myself.

Posted by: Insomniac


You'll never lose an argument that way

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (2s3aR)

335 Nina Blackwood?

Meh.

Martha Quinn.

Yummy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (EhZNT)

336 James: "Sunday Morning" (cover)

https://youtu.be/8MRCo8nBg74

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (e7oj4)

337 Not *honey*. *HONERY*
Sometimes I hate this fvcking ipad!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (DAdSz)

338 logprof, Martha Quinn, Alan Hunter and all the other original MTV VJs still sound *exactly* the same.

Nina Blackwood OTOH... ;-)
But Cheribebe, I understand where you're coming from...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (km8m2)

339 Some random items based on discussion above.

I have a twelve pack of Vimto, a black current soda licensed from Yorkshire. I first encountered it at The Strand Hotel in Rangoon in the early 80's and couldn't find it Stateside for 30 years. It is quite good. Can't speak for the Fanta product.

I have a 17 Chevy Silverado 1500 that has been a great vehicle for its first 25k miles. Can't say that about a lot of other trucks I've owned. It also gets better gas mileage than the Tacoma.

I also have a 08 Tacoma that just recently had a new frame put under it as part of some class action suit. Dealer told me the cost of the repair would have been between 13 and 15,000 dollars. As the truck has 150,000 on it, I would have gladly made a deal.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (FTlwv)

340 Or, you know, ask for her phone # and send a dick pic.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (fuK7c)

What, you mean like Nixon?

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (Zogyx)

341 Well, ok. I'm 250.
Posted by: Sonia Sotomayor at July 21, 2018 11:35 PM (sXefu)

Slender by Supreme Court Standards.

Posted by: Chief Justice William H. Taft at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (M+sEY)

342 Fuck me, I'm talking to myself.

Posted by: Insomniac


You'll never lose an argument that way
Posted by: JT at July 21, 2018 11:37 PM (2s3aR)

Says you.

Posted by: Sybil at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (2DOZq)

343 337 Not *honey*. *HONERY*
Sometimes I hate this fvcking ipad!
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (DAdSz)


Ornery?

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:39 PM (h2Bdk)

344 I got issues, but multiple personality disorder isn't one of them.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:39 PM (NWiLs)

345 That's interesting I guess but when it's a universal response it's not them it's me.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (NWiLs)

What is a "universal" response? 10 girls in a year? You do have that grim bent in how you see things. Also, I have no idea how dressed down and unshowered you are when these things occur. I guess I'm not totally buying your perception.

Maybe you have piercing blue eyes and are so stunning handsome they can't handle it.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (vFd8X)

346 35 The ONT wouldn't be complete without a big ass cucumber, so I brought mine. I'll just leave it on the counter here, in case anyone needs it.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 10:11 PM (txw6d)

Newsletter?

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (PJmyj)

347 As I recall, Nina Blackwood bears (or used to bear) something of a resemblance to Stevie Nicks...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (km8m2)

348 Slender by Supreme Court Standards.
Posted by: Chief Justice William H. Taft at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (M+sEY)

Ruth Buzzy Gainsburger weighs about 50 pounds, or so I figure.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (EhZNT)

349 I remember the leftists were a bit worried about Sotomayor. She has diabetes, and they wanted Obama to appoint someone like RBG who would cling to life with an iron grip.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (h2Bdk)

350 The item about the tanks reminds me, I just finished reading the Moron-recommended 'Jadotville', which is an account of an Irish Army action in the Congo.

That caused me to wonder about the existence of an Irish Air Force, which there is. 733 personnel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (CDGwz)

351 I got issues, but multiple personality disorder isn't one of them.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:39 PM (NWiLs)


Alls I knows is, all my personalities think you're swell! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (km8m2)

352 Obama has a gay mustache now.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (PUmDY)

353 Horny?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (txw6d)

354 Did you know...?

Cranberry juice is so healthy and cleansing that if you use it as a mixer, it counteracts any potential negative effects of alcohol.

True because you read it on the internetz.

Posted by: mindful webworker - #TrueFacts at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (macz7)

355 340 Or, you know, ask for her phone # and send a dick pic.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 11:28 PM (fuK7c)

What, you mean like Nixon?
Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (Zogyx)

No.No.No.No. Girls love receiving pics of your masculine clitoris.

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (PJmyj)

356 345. This. This can be a problem. I look like an underfed Leonid Brezhnev and have eyebrows that would make Thufir Hawat envious. Sometimes, a man really can be too handsome.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (fA1SL)

357 353 Horny?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (txw6d)


Now that would be impressive.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (h2Bdk)

358
Ruth Buzzy Gainsburger weighs about 50 pounds, or so I figure.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
------------

Dry, or curb weight?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (CDGwz)

359 One thing about Martha Quinn back in the 80s was that it was unusual at the time for a cute chick to be named Martha.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (sdi6R)

360 I live in a small town. And the really hot Young gal that bartends hits on me all the time. Should I wonder if that's because I'm a good tipper or she wants me sexually?

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (YdakM)

361 I remember the leftists were a bit worried about Sotomayor. She has diabetes, and they wanted Obama to appoint someone like RBG who would cling to life with an iron grip.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (h2Bdk)


In the SCOTUS lunch room back in the day, Thomas and Scalia used to enjoy making Sonia play 'keep away' with her insulin.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (km8m2)

362 352 Obama has a gay mustache now.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (PUmDY)

Just had a creepy image of BHO as the Guy from Harlem.

Just vomited a whole lot. BBL.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (EhZNT)

363 Obama has a gay mustache
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (PUmDY)


*throws Radio Londres codebook into the fire*
*destroys radio*

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (y87Qq)

364 live in a small town. And the really hot Young gal that bartends hits on me all the time. Should I wonder if that's because I'm a good tipper or she wants me sexually?
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (YdakM)

Could be both.

Posted by: Sybil at July 21, 2018 11:44 PM (2DOZq)

365 Her 2 parents passed about 10 years into the marriage, and as soon as she had posession of their money, all that changed. I actually suggested taking a part of that money and paying off the house (it was about 1.6 million that she got).

Her answer? "That money was meant for ME, and to pass it down to our daughter". The beginning of the end.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 11:32 PM (+1YDx)

Well, I kind of felt that way about my inheritance from my mother. For a long time I still thought of it as "her" money, and that she would want her blood to have it. Me, and then her grandchildren. We did end up paying the mortgage and a line of credit off with it, but I had those same feelings right at the start.

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 11:44 PM (XoAz8)

366 338 logprof, Martha Quinn, Alan Hunter and all the other original MTV VJs still sound *exactly* the same.

Nina Blackwood OTOH... ;-)
But Cheribebe, I understand where you're coming from...
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:38 PM (km8m2)

--MQ? Totaally hittable.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:44 PM (e7oj4)

367 Obama has a gay mustache now.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (PUmDY)



Wound my heart with a monotonous languor.

Posted by: Radio London at July 21, 2018 11:44 PM (sXefu)

368 Cranberry juice is awesome. I should drink more of this.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2018 11:45 PM (N1ZXu)

369 Ruth Buzzy Gainsburger weighs about 50 pounds, or so I figure.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
------------

Dry, or curb weight?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (CDGwz)


According to the folklore, she can't touch running water.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:45 PM (y87Qq)

370 Maybe you have piercing blue eyes and are so stunning handsome they can't handle it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (vFd8X)

Heh. No. My eyes are technically blue but are more of a darkish gray color now. I wouldn't describe myself as handsome, either. Maybe a hair above average, at the absolute best.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:45 PM (NWiLs)

371 343 why yes, I am an idiot

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:45 PM (DAdSz)

372 The first time I saw a pic of Suzanne Vega, I thought she looked a bit like Martha Quinn.

But then I'm weird. I also think my personal counselor looks a bit like Laura Nyro did back in the late 1960s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (km8m2)

373

Miley, did the lesbians use the cucumber? If so you could probably auction it off here...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (AyGZp)

374 What is your problem with Old Spice?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:36 PM (PUmDY)


I don't like how it smells. I'm very impacted by scents. So I picked that one for my example in my post.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (vFd8X)

375 352 Obama has a gay mustache now.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:41 PM (PUmDY)

Any mustache Barry could have would be gay.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (NWiLs)

376 No.No.No.No. Girls love receiving pics of your masculine clitoris.
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at July 21, 2018 11:42 PM (PJmyj)

Obama?

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (Zogyx)

377 371 343 why yes, I am an idiot
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:45 PM (DAdSz)


Nah. That's one of those words people use in speech but you hardly ever see written down.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:48 PM (h2Bdk)

378 Miley, did the lesbians use the cucumber? If so you could probably auction it off here...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (AyGZp)

Were they mocking Bruce Jenner, seeing as he is now, ah, unencumbered?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:49 PM (bNb8V)

379 I am a loyal old spice deodorant user

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:49 PM (PUmDY)

380 Obama has a gay mustache now.

If Michelle was his beard, then what is the meaning of mustache?

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:49 PM (sdi6R)

381 Funny fact about Laura Nyro:

50 years after she wrote this song, nobody STILL can figure out what the $%*& Laura was talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZztwQ0C0

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (km8m2)

382 Any mustache Barry could have would be gay.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:46 PM (NWiLs)

Spirit gum FTW!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (EhZNT)

383 Well, I kind of felt that way about my inheritance from my mother. For a long time I still thought of it as "her" money, and that she would want her blood to have it. Me, and then her grandchildren. We did end up paying the mortgage and a line of credit off with it, but I had those same feelings right at the start.
Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2018 11:44 PM (XoAz

-------------

That would have been fine, if she had continued working and paying her share of the bills.

Coincidentally, I'm quite sure, she decided within a month of settling out their estate, that she was was not happy at her job, so she quit and then came home and told me about it. Not a word in advance.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (+1YDx)

384


Obama has a gay mustache... Obamahas a gay mustache...Implement...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (AyGZp)

385
Eye contact is an incredibly complex game. Most of this body language stuff makes my eye glaze over, and I say screw it, I'm just gonna be myself and not worry.

But if you're interested you can read tons of shit.

Prolonged eye contact with a stranger is not something you want to do. It can be a sign of aggression and creepiness.

A woman who is interested in you isn't going to stare at you.

A flirty eye game is to look at you, and when return eye contact, to look away, usually down, and then quickly return briefly. Now, she does that. You look down, and then go back and see if she's looking back at you.

Now, the "I'm not interested, stay away from" eye avoidance is usually looking *up* and away. That's usually a strong signal of disinterest.

The torso is also important. If they look like the turn away from you, that's disinterest.

The thing is, all this varies greatly, and to really interpret bodily language, you need to know their baseline. And that's why I say the hell with it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (8O3HH)

386 Dudes.....skip the Old Spice and similar synthetic scents. Get some Bay Rum or Florida Water for aftershave. Alpa Fougere for cologne. Maybe some 4711 Kolnigschwasser for warm weather, or some Hoyt's if'n yer old skool, and call it a day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (fA1SL)

387 Bay rum. The aftershave. Getyousome. Wear it everywhere.

That's the Universal Female Solvent, as far as I'm concerned

.

Posted by: Eleanor: my spirit animal is Bill the Cat at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (QU+qf)

388 Maybe you have piercing blue eyes and are so stunning handsome they can't handle it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (vFd8X)

Heh. No. My eyes are technically blue but are more of a darkish gray color now. I wouldn't describe myself as handsome, either. Maybe a hair above average, at the absolute best.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:45 PM (NWiLs)



Stunningly, btw. Typo. If you describe yourself as a hair above average, it's probably better. I just don't think your "universal" is really "universal" if based on a super small sample size. I can think of so many things and so many reasons for the lookaway. Maybe your anger/bitterness shows in your face. Who knows. Maybe flashing them in your raincoat scares them.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (vFd8X)

389 377 the challenge of spelling and then fighting with auto-cucumber can be frustrating. Of course I keep the cucumber on because I cannot type!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (DAdSz)

390 If Michelle was his beard, then what is the meaning of mustache?
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:49 PM (sdi6R)


So he won't look like a Mennonite????

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (EhZNT)

391 299 I can't even make eye contact with a chick in public without her instantly looking away.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)

Ya know, I do that. Even if I think the guy is cute. I don't know why."

It's because it's an aggressive move in public between 2 people who don't know each other, especially if there isn't any conversation preceeding it, and any woman with even the slightest bit of sense will automatically react to that as a threat. (on a level that even her conscious mind won't realize)

This entire idea that 2 people can just meet at random and hit it off in 2 minutes with no introductions is a cultural fantasy that's caused a huge amount of damage. Men and women need some form of social connection before any of this can happen - the usual three are school, church, and work. Sometimes relatives or friends can set a couple up, sometimes other social groups can fill the gap. But that's what it takes.

Bars? forget it. Internet? For every relationship that works, 100 turn out to be 1 dude talking to another dude. Sad but true. If someone is truly looking for a relationship, they gotta start by looking in the right places, and forgetting about the wrong places.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (V2Yro)

392 I am a loyal old spice deodorant user
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:49 PM (PUmDY)

It's a shame they don't make it to smell like Lionel locomotive smoke.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (bNb8V)

393 Eye contact is an incredibly complex game.

Especially when you're getting a great beejer...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (AyGZp)

394 Nina Blackwood is infinitely hotter than Martha Quinn.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (PUmDY)

395 Soap and water is always the best scent...clean. Especially during the day.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (vFd8X)

396 Spirit gum FTW!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (EhZNT)

If Justin Trudeau can wear fake eyebrows, why shouldn't our own Barry sport a little lip weasel?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (txw6d)

397
Obama has a gay mustache... Obamahas a gay mustache...Implement...

OK me and the hot chick will derail the train.....the rest of you, something, something.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (LOq4H)

398 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (8O3HH)

Christ. Just shoot me now.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (NWiLs)

399 There are a couple inaccuracies on the Fanta List, it lists fruit Punch twice under United States and it says that Mango is only available in New Jersey and the Southeast; a fact a can prove wrong by buying a bottle of it at any local gas station here in California.

Posted by: Surfperch at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (M+sEY)

400 Were they mocking Bruce Jenner, seeing as he is now, ah, unencumbered?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon



Is there any proof of that? He's now dating a 21 yr old blonde hot chick. I'm thinking his trans is a ruse for money and young hot chicks.

Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (YdakM)

401 Obama has a gay mustache... Obamahas a gay mustache...Implement...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (AyGZp)

*crackle*

the hoe is leaning awkwardly against the shed

the hoe is leaning awkwardly against the shed

*crackle*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (EhZNT)

402 Spirit gum FTW!!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (EhZNT)

Really?

Posted by: Justin Trudeau's wandering eyebrow at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (bNb8V)

403 The torso is also important. If they look like the turn away from you, that's disinterest.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (8O3HH)


This.

I find the torso to be the most, whaddayacallit, sensual part of the broad.

Dame. Sorry, dame.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:54 PM (y87Qq)

404 Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (km8m2)

--My hippie stepdad always like Laura Nyro.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:54 PM (e7oj4)

405 . Men and women need some form of social connection before any of this can happen - the usual three are school, church, and work. Sometimes relatives or friends can set a couple up, sometimes other social groups can fill the gap. But that's what it takes.

Then I am as completely and totally fucked as I thought.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (NWiLs)

406 Is there any proof of that? He's now dating a 21 yr old blonde hot chick. I'm thinking his trans is a ruse for money and young hot chicks.
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (YdakM)


Supposedly after his decathlon win he told a close friend his lifelong goal was to avoid working any job ever.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (h2Bdk)

407
We have a Camry for our transportation module. I don't like it at all, bought it for my wife. She loves the thing.
That said, I'd unhesitatingly recommend the vehicle for a long term unit.
Damn things are bulletproof, ours has been totally reliable. We bought it in 03 and it still looks like new. I've put 2 timing belts in it and at 132k yet has the original rear brakes. My taste in cars simply does not run to front drive, plus it's a bit small for me, but perfect for my wife.

My rides are an 87 Ramcharger and a brand new 68 Plymouth Road Runner.
None of the newer vehicles interest me an iota.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (S/hVx)

408 Is there any proof of that? He's now dating a 21 yr old blonde hot chick. I'm thinking his trans is a ruse for money and young hot chicks.
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (YdakM)

Last photo I saw was him and a blonde tranny with a jawbone the size of Texas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (bNb8V)

409 logprof, I find it interesting she never became that well known.

I assume it had to do with the what I've read, that she hated to tour or even do television appearances. So she was kind of like Nick Drake, I guess.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:56 PM (km8m2)

410 Maybe I should tell my recent grocery store story. If the guy focused on it, he would think I was avoiding him...when it had nothing to do with him...it was all my own crap. I can be skittish.

Plus, there was the whole just rolled out of bed and 7 AM in the morning. Maybe I looked okay from a distance, but up close I was gonna scare him, so I had my own insecurity thing going.

I'm just saying, don't think it is you.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:56 PM (vFd8X)

411 Really?
Posted by: Justin Trudeau's wandering eyebrow at July 21, 2018 11:53 PM (bNb8V)

Dude, you're student body president of America's Hat. You should have better makeup artists.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 21, 2018 11:56 PM (EhZNT)

412 405. Dance classes. Worth it for the social interaction and the skill you'll gain. Ladies like a man who's graceful and strong. And it'll do wonders for your self-confidence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:57 PM (fA1SL)

413 Stunningly, btw. Typo. If you describe yourself as a hair above average, it's probably better. I just don't think your "universal" is really "universal" if based on a super small sample size. I can think of so many things and so many reasons for the lookaway. Maybe your anger/bitterness shows in your face. Who knows. Maybe flashing them in your raincoat scares them.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (vFd8X)

So you're saying I should switch to a trenchcoat?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:57 PM (NWiLs)

414 394 Nina Blackwood is infinitely hotter than Martha Quinn.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (PUmDY)

--Hotter, but not cuter.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (e7oj4)

415 391
Men and women need some form of social connection before any of this can happen - the usual three are school, church, and work.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 11:51 PM (V2Yro)


The Left has succeeded in making school and work dangerous as hell if not impossible.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (sdi6R)

416
My cat Sandy's body language is very clear. He's saying feed me a damned can of Fancy Feast right now or I keel you!

He was being ignored so, he stand up and claws my legs. I reach down to pet him on the head. When I do that, and he's wanting to be fed, he reaches up and grabs my hand with his claws and sort of bites (not hard).

The message is "Look at me!" When I do, off to the food bowl he heads, looking to make sure I'm following behind him.

I'm pussy whipped big time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (8O3HH)

417 We have a Camry for our transportation module.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (S/hVx)


Not for nothing, "the Camry of x" is a commonly-accepted shorthand for something in its class that isn't expensive or flashy but gets the job done reliably.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (y87Qq)

418 *the really hot Young gal that bartends hits on me all the time. Should I wonder if that's because I'm a good tipper or she wants me sexually?
Posted by: X-ray at July 21, 2018 11:43 PM (YdakM)*

You are over thinking it.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (21UM+)

419 The Left has succeeded in making school and work dangerous as hell if not impossible.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (sdi6R)


And church... if you're not a believer it seems kind of lame to go to church looking for a date.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:59 PM (h2Bdk)

420 Home hurray and catching up on comments.

qdpsteve #205: didn't the original Xena go full... uh... Subaru Outback after a few years on the air??

Not a fan of the series. At least they were gals a guy might want to watch in, uh, action.

I don't have any problem with sexual deviation in fiction when it is well-placed. Social Justice Whining is too often the only purpose. Blast from the Past had an absolute great gay guy, just a gay guy, no sex stuff, but a funny fey foil for the innocent (and manly) Frasier character.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wondering women? at July 21, 2018 11:59 PM (macz7)

421 394 Nina Blackwood is infinitely hotter than Martha Quinn.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (PUmDY)

--Hotter, but not cuter.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (e7oj4)

"Cute" often has a much longer shelf life than "hot." I'll take cute every time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (EhZNT)

422 "Prolonged eye contact with a stranger is not something you want to do. It can be a sign of aggression and creepiness.



A woman who is interested in you isn't going to stare at you."
This is absolutely true.

Women like appreciative glances, but prolonged eye contact always immediately set off alarm bells.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (H80UQ)

423 The Left has succeeded in making school and work dangerous as hell if not impossible."

Oh, I know. And this is why I know they're gonna burn out - within 10 years, everyone, ESPECIALLY the up and coming generation, is gonna hate them for what they've done. They're puritans who won't admit how viciously religious they are, and they are gonna face a hell of a backlash.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (V2Yro)

424 Men and women need some form of social connection
before any of this can happen - the usual three are school, church, and
work. Sometimes relatives or friends can set a couple up, sometimes
other social groups can fill the gap. But that's what it takes.



Then I am as completely and totally fucked as I thought.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (NWiLs)

This blog is a social connection.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (txw6d)

425 412 405. Dance classes

==

volunteer at animal rescues
single women love puppies and kittens

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (hMwEB)

426 419 The Left has succeeded in making school and work dangerous as hell if not impossible.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (sdi6R)

And church... if you're not a believer it seems kind of lame to go to church looking for a date.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:59 PM (h2Bdk)

Even if you are, your odds of finding someone in your age cohort who's single and potentially interested are minuscule.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (NWiLs)

427 Not for nothing, "the Camry of x" is a commonly-accepted shorthand for something in its class that isn't expensive or flashy but gets the job done reliably.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (y87Qq)

As in: "Minx 0.7 alpha is the Camry of blog software".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (bNb8V)

428 *Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Duke.*

Always a good thing.

Posted by: tbodie at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (21UM+)

429 Then I am as completely and totally fucked as I thought.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (NWiLs)


Yes, no one is going to push a girl thru your USB port.

But plenty of people have managed to meet outside of the above three social deals. However, you know you turn those down. Backwards Boy gigs comes to mind. I'm not gonna cut you complete slack.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (vFd8X)

430 If I was gonna advise someone on where to find a partner, I would say pick between being a Catholic or a Baptist, and start taking some bible classes. Both outfits are full of women looking for partners, of all ages.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (V2Yro)

431 Why did people burn a flag outside of Maxine's office?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (PUmDY)

432 424 Men and women need some form of social connection
before any of this can happen - the usual three are school, church, and
work. Sometimes relatives or friends can set a couple up, sometimes
other social groups can fill the gap. But that's what it takes.



Then I am as completely and totally fucked as I thought.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (NWiLs)

This blog is a social connection.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (txw6d)

But not a physical one. I certainly don't expect to be set up with anyone by anyone from the HQ.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (NWiLs)

433 This blog is a social connection.

but the 1200 mile separation is a bit of a deal buster.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (LOq4H)

434 403 The torso is also important. If they look like the turn away from you, that's disinterest.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (8O3HH)

This.

I find the torso to be the most, whaddayacallit, sensual part of the broad.

Dame. Sorry, dame.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:54 PM (y87Qq)

Yo!

Posted by: Sarah Refrigerator Silverman at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (PJmyj)

435 425. This is also an excellent suggestion. Though lions are carnivorous, yet they hang out in the savanna.
Ya go where your quarry is.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:03 AM (fA1SL)

436 424 Men and women need some form of social connection before any of this can happen - the usual three are school, church, and work. Sometimes relatives or friends can set a couple up, sometimes other social groups can fill the gap. But that's what it takes.
Then I am as completely and totally fucked as I thought.

This blog is a social connection.

Plus, no splooge to clean up afterwords. Usually. Well, not often. Unless KDB is posting. Then, well accidents happen.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 22, 2018 12:03 AM (AyGZp)

437 And church... if you're not a believer it seems kind of lame to go to church looking for a date.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 21, 2018 11:59 PM (h2Bdk)

I don't think I'd be off to say that about 50% of the men who have ever darkened a church's door have gone there for that reason alone. Even in the old days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:03 AM (V2Yro)

438 I'm pussy whipped big time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 21, 2018 11:58 PM (8O3HH)

Oh yeah you are! Besotted.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:03 AM (txw6d)

439 But plenty of people have managed to meet outside of the above three social deals. However, you know you turn those down. Backwards Boy gigs comes to mind. I'm not gonna cut you complete slack.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (vFd8X)

Nor am I asking for any. However, undirected social interaction for its own sake terrifies me.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (NWiLs)

440 Why did people burn a flag outside of Maxine's office?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (PUmDY)

Somebody caught her wiping her ass with it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (bNb8V)

441 Especially when you're getting a great beejer...

Difficult to make proper eye contact when one's eyes are crossed and/or rolled back in one's head.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (N1ZXu)

442 431 Why did people burn a flag outside of Maxine's office?

Couldn't get their hands on the Constitution.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (LOq4H)

443 412
405. Dance classes. Worth it for the social interaction and the skill
you'll gain. Ladies like a man who's graceful and strong. And it'll do
wonders for your self-confidence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 21, 2018 11:57 PM (fA1SL)
I have a friend who met her husband in a swing class in the '90's - and they still have a blast dancing together.Speaking of swing, I watch this video whenever I want to cheer up. I just love it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDv7NhMjhg4

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (H80UQ)

444 youtube search on "dog howl yoko" reveals a remarkable number of dogs named Yoko.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (953wK)

445 412 405. Dance classes

==

volunteer at animal rescues
single women love puppies and kittens
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 22, 2018 12:00 AM (hMwEB)


Ya know, we have had these discussions so many times. I think I realize some people won't even try unless they get a guarantee. There is none. Life is hard and especially with searching for a partner there can be many fails before you find a good one...for everyone. Movies and books about that since the beginning of time on those things...and before. It's biblical too. It is life. For everyone.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (vFd8X)

446 Soap and water is always the best scent...clean. Especially during the day.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:52 PM (vFd8X)


This, but also clean fresh girl-sweat, like from gardening or hiking or cycling or something. It's like a pheromone firehose to the face.

Downside: it would be really off-putting in just about any scenario where I weren't already dating the girl in question. So, probably not that useful in a first-encounter situation.

I never claimed to have useful tips or anything. *shrug*

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (y87Qq)

447 Best thing Nespatnik can do is to transfer to me ownership of all his goods and chattels. This, I will broadcast, far and wide, as proof of his greatness of soul. Chicks will swarm him.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (fA1SL)

448 427
"Minx 0.7 alpha is the Camry of blog software".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (bNb8V)


I think of it more as the Ford Trimotor of blog software.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (sdi6R)

449 I don't get what they were upset about

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (PUmDY)

450 Maybe you have piercing blue eyes and are so stunning handsome they can't handle it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (vFd8X)

------------

I have eyes that change color based on what I am wearing. They go (I'm told) from stunning Newman blue to green/gold depending on the attire. Back in the day, I found that Royal blue got me the best results.

I found that out when one of the accounting ladies walked into the break room, and I was wearing a Royal blue sweater. I turned around and looked her in the eye, and she actually took two steps back, saying "Oh my God, that is your color!"

For some reason, this sales guy developed a number of accounting issues that day, requiring stops by my office.

All far in the past, but fun to reminisce about.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (+1YDx)

451 Plus, no splooge to clean up afterwords. Usually. Well, not often. Unless KDB is posting. Then, well accidents happen.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 22, 2018 12:03 AM (AyGZp)

What about the Barrel? It prolly looks like the trailer that Randy Marsh was in just after after Kyle rebooted the Internet.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (EhZNT)

452
I had to go read some of this body language crap again.

The thing to realize is we do a lot of this unconsciously. Think about your own body language, not just hers.

Another sign of interest women will do subconsciously is "preening behavior". This can be adjusting their hair, posture, etc.

And then another strong one is "mimicry" monkey-see, monkey-do. Again, this is all subconscious. If you take a drink, she'll take one. You touch your face, she'll touch hers, etc, etc.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (8O3HH)

453 I can't even make eye contact with a chick in public without her instantly looking away.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)

That's better than the wrinkling their nose with scorn look.



Posted by: rickl


or pointing and screaming

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (2s3aR)

454 Find a womens article about where to find men, go there.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (LOq4H)

455 but the 1200 mile separation is a bit of a deal buster.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (LOq4H)

Good thing I can drive.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:07 AM (txw6d)

456 Yeah, dance classes are good. As a guy you'll never want for a partner. I can think of two couples who met at dance classes.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:07 AM (h2Bdk)

457 447 Best thing Nespatnik can do is to transfer to me ownership of all his goods and chattels. This, I will broadcast, far and wide, as proof of his greatness of soul. Chicks will swarm him.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (fA1SL)

Counteroffer: put a 7.62x25 in my head and take all the goods and chattels you want. Plus the loose change bucket is up to about $45, give or take.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:07 AM (NWiLs)

458 But not a physical one. I certainly don't expect to be set up with anyone by anyone from the HQ.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (NWiLs)

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition, either.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:07 AM (txw6d)

459 Good thing I can drive

Gonna keep throwing that in my face?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (LOq4H)

460 Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (+1YDx)

Always been a sucker for the baby blues

If you have dark hair and blue eyes, that's a plus too.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (H80UQ)

461 If you search for tenderness
it isn't hard to find
you can have the love you need to live

But if you look for truthfulness
you might just as well be blind
it always seems to be so hard to give

Honesty
is such a lonely word
everyone is so untrue

Honesty
is hardly ever heard
and mostly what I need from you

I can always find someone
to smile and sympathize
if I wear my heart out on my sleeve

But I don't want some pretty face
to tell me pretty lies
all I want is someone to believe

Honesty
is such a lonely word
everyone is so untrue

Honesty
is hardly ever heard
and mostly what I need from you

I can find a lover
I can find a friend
I can have security until the bitter end
Anyone can comfort me with promises again
I know
I know
I know

When I'm deep inside of me
don't be too concerned
I won't ask for nothin' while I'm gone

But when I want sincerity
tell me, where else can I turn
'Cuz you're the one that I depend upon

Honesty
is such a lonely word
everyone is so untrue

Honesty
is hardly ever heard
and mostly what I need from you

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (km8m2)

462 Also here.

Posted by: irright at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (RVcmP)

463 >> Oh yeah you are! Besotted.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess

That I am, your Grace.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (8O3HH)

464 re: WHY?


It would be nice, now and then, to be able to put the cap back on a beer.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (cvabZ)

465 Find a womens article about where to find men, go there.
Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:06 AM (LOq4H)

But I don't want to go on the cart!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (bNb8V)

466 As in: "Minx 0.7 alpha is the Camry of blog software".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (bNb8V)


*types*
*deletes*
*forgets to close tag*
*entire village burns to the ground*

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (y87Qq)

467 I had Black Currant Fanta in Kuwait in 2004 and that stuff was great! Sort of like grape soda, but sweeter.

Posted by: 68W58 at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (rYFmu)

468 461 why are we singing billy Joel songs?

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (DAdSz)

469 *hogmartin spends a fortnight in the barrel*

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (km8m2)

470 Ya know, we have had these discussions so many times. I think I realize some people won't even try unless they get a guarantee. There is none. Life is hard and especially with searching for a partner there can be many fails before you find a good one...for everyone. Movies and books about that since the beginning of time on those things...and before. It's biblical too. It is life. For everyone.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:05 AM (vFd8X)

I have extreme issues with failure. Cripplingly so.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (NWiLs)

471 464 re: WHY?


It would be nice, now and then, to be able to put the cap back on a beer.

Just sayin'
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (cvabZ)


I'm not sure it really helps when you realize the next day it was one too many.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (h2Bdk)

472 hm, lol

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (PUmDY)

473 cheribebe, just seemed appropriate

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (km8m2)

474 But I don't want to go on the cart!

Hey, if they're browsing....just saying.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:11 AM (LOq4H)

475 467 I had Black Currant Fanta in Kuwait in 2004 and that stuff was great! Sort of like grape soda, but sweeter.
Posted by: 68W58 at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (rYFmu)

--Dude, have you ever even had a Kir?

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:11 AM (e7oj4)

476 457. It's intriguing. But the plan won't get you laid. I'm looking to get paid - naturlisch - but for you to prosper as well. Because I'm a good man, not like the ovvers. An because $42 in change, while tempting, wouldn't cover gas and smokes to Florida. But mostly because I'm a good guy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:11 AM (fA1SL)

477 Yeah, dance classes are good. As a guy you'll never want for a partner. I can think of two couples who met at dance classes.
Posted by: Ace's liver



Different angle maybe I should enroll my granddaughters in dance class. To meet single moms.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (YdakM)

478 Pepsi 1893 had a delicious black currant flavor.
Unfortunately, that whole line seems to have gone away.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (km8m2)

479 just seemed appropriate
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018

That is such a sad song tho.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (DAdSz)

480 As in: "Minx 0.7 alpha is the Camry of blog software".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:01 AM (bNb8V)

*types*
*deletes*
*forgets to close tag*
*entire village burns to the ground*
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (y87Qq)


So you're saying Minx 0.7 alpha is more akin to, say, a Ford Pinto?

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (953wK)

481 >reads comments, hoping to catch up

>refreshes, sees another buttload of comments

Eh, hi, folks.

So, are we talking about dating? Again?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (rJUlF)

482 I have extreme issues with failure. Cripplingly so.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (NWiLs)

You have described a positive feedback loop.

Not being snarky or flip here. Your fear of failure is causing you to take action (or inaction) that reinforces the fail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (bNb8V)

483 cheribebe, true, but at least it proves somebody else has been frustrated with relationships too. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (km8m2)

484 Beyonce actually did a cover of that song btw.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (km8m2)

485 481 >reads comments, hoping to catch up

>refreshes, sees another buttload of comments

Eh, hi, folks.

So, are we talking about dating? Again?
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (rJUlF)

Sort of. More like self-loathing and perpetual loserdom.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (NWiLs)

486 Pepsi 1893 had a delicious black currant flavor.
Unfortunately, that whole line seems to have gone away.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (km8m2)

Completely overtaken by currant events.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (bNb8V)

487 If you have dark hair and blue eyes, that's a plus too.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (H80UQ)

----------

Before going mostly gray, I would have been considered Black Irish, widows peak and all. This was before I developed 5 head.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (+1YDx)

488 Nor am I asking for any. However, undirected social interaction for its own sake terrifies me.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:04 AM (NWiLs)



You think you are unique? It scares a lot of people. I'm not trying to be hard on you, but you choose not to try. Then wonder why good things don't happen. I have great compassion for you, and when you weren't around I missed you. However, I'm not being a good friend in a gray box if I buy into your doomed lie. Then I'd be lying.

I'll like you either way...whether you try or not. I won't buy the lies you tell yourself though. I know you don't ask me to, but you say enough that...well...it can be a reflex.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (vFd8X)

489 Fight Club. If there's any man what needs to join one, it's Nespatnik.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (fA1SL)

490 478 Pepsi 1893 had a delicious black currant flavor.
Unfortunately, that whole line seems to have gone away.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (km8m2)

---

How old are you??!

Posted by: SMH at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (ywKik)

491 Cherry Pepsi is almost as great as cherry Dr Pepper

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (PUmDY)

492 AOP, apparently so.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (km8m2)

493 So, are we talking about dating? Again?

sorta the same reason most comedians have bit on sex, folks relate.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (LOq4H)

494 461

That's one of my favorite Billy Joel songs.

I, too, would like to find a companion with whom I could just be me, warts and all.

Hasn't happened yet. Might never happen.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (rJUlF)

495 My rides are an 87 Ramcharger and a brand new 68 Plymouth Road Runner.
None of the newer vehicles interest me an iota.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 21, 2018 11:55 PM (S/hVx)

Both of our daily cars are '99 Jeeps. A Cherokee and a Grand Cherokee. The Cherokee has 160K miles, the Grand Cherokee 210+. They are completely reliable, and I would not trade either of them in for anything newer.
We also have an '89 Comanche pickup (for hauling stuff) and a '91 Grand Wagoneer (for Sunday drives). Also very reliable, although sometimes harder to find parts for on the rare occasions when they do require repairs.

Posted by: HTL at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (xOOs/)

496 Beyonce actually did a cover of that song btw.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (km8m2)

Meaning that Billy Joel remains the only person to have actually sung it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (bNb8V)

497 Alexthechick turned me on to Cheerwine. There is only one store around here that has it. I try not to drink much soda because carbs, but that shit is awesome.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

498 Maybe you have piercing blue eyes and are so stunning handsome they can't handle it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 11:40 PM (vFd8X)

Heh. No. My eyes are technically blue but are more of a darkish gray color now. I wouldn't describe myself as handsome, either. Maybe a hair above average, at the absolute best.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2018 11:45

You sound hot to me! Get out there and mix it up!
LOL, seriously give it a try w/ the gals again, even if you've been burned. Just don't marry them until you have a better agreement.

Posted by: Farmer at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (yJ1e6)

499 You have described a positive feedback loop.

Not being snarky or flip here. Your fear of failure is causing you to take action (or inaction) that reinforces the fail.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (bNb8V)

I think you're 100% correct.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (NWiLs)

500 qdpsteve, true, very true.

It also makes for great songs.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (DAdSz)

501 481 >reads comments, hoping to catch up

>refreshes, sees another buttload of comments

Eh, hi, folks.

So, are we talking about dating? Again?
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (rJUlF)

--Drives me crazy.

Can't keep up.

I have absolutely negative dating advice.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (e7oj4)

502 Meaning that Billy Joel remains the only person to have actually sung it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (bNb8V)


...and boom goes the dynamite.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (rJUlF)

503 Holy smokes puter slowwwww tonight.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (LOq4H)

504 If you have dark hair and blue eyes, that's a plus too.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (H80UQ)


Neither dark nor blue, but I do have both hair AND eyes. AND I'm tall for a woman! Woohoo!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (y87Qq)

505 475 467 I had Black Currant Fanta in Kuwait in 2004 and that stuff was great! Sort of like grape soda, but sweeter.
Posted by: 68W58 at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (rYFmu)

--Dude, have you ever even had a Kir?
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:11 AM (e7oj4)

I don't think so. What is it?

Posted by: 68W58 at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (rYFmu)

506 I know it's a not-Ferrari, but I would *love* to own that car. It's more valuable (for a certain set that includes me) than a *real* Ferrari California would be, just because of the movie.

I mean, who would not love to say "no, it's a replica California, but it *is* the car from Ferris Bueller/

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (cvabZ)

507 Nespatnik?

Posted by: SMH at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (ywKik)

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (cvabZ)

509 497 Alexthechick turned me on to Cheerwine. There is only one store around here that has it. I try not to drink much soda because carbs, but that shit is awesome.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

I had some years ago, before I was diagnosed with Da Diabeetus. It was VERY good.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:17 AM (rJUlF)

510 SMH, 29!
The 1893 line only came out a few years ago.

I was doing jokes at FB that Pepsi should also come out with a line of *1983* colas, all in neon-bright colors and era-specific flavors. Knight Rider Raspberry, Miami Vice Melon, A-Team Apple...

Plus, every can would come with a free pair of legwarmers!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:17 AM (km8m2)

511 496 Beyonce actually did a cover of that song btw.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (km8m2)

Meaning that Billy Joel remains the only person to have actually sung it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (bNb8V)


Heh. I was racking my brain trying to think of something suitably pithy.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:17 AM (h2Bdk)

512 What about the Barrel? It prolly looks like the trailer that Randy Marsh was in just after after Kyle rebooted the Internet.

Having been there a couple times I can say without hesitation that the ankle deep splooge is far from the worst of it... the toxic shock tampon pus dripping from the living stalactite's tentacles are really nasty, and the thing with the 100's of glowing fire red eyes that smells like hyena anal gland expression that lives down the 13th corridor on the left, right after the Hall of Komodo Dragon Tongues, man, nasty...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 22, 2018 12:17 AM (AyGZp)

513 381 Funny fact about Laura Nyro:

50 years after she wrote this song, nobody STILL can figure out what the $%*& Laura was talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZztwQ0C0
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 21, 2018 11:50 PM (km8m2)

She's talking about Virginia Woolf.

Posted by: Gem at July 22, 2018 12:18 AM (XoAz8)

514 507. In language of SMR, Nespatnik = Insomniac. Dude is a Floridian, which means he's a gopnik with a mullet.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:18 AM (fA1SL)

515 AOP: sick burn!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:18 AM (km8m2)

516 Fanta Toejam.

Worst. Flavor. Ever.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (0pH66)

517 --Dude, have you ever even had a Kir?
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:11 AM (e7oj4)

I don't think so. What is it?
Posted by: 68W58 at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (rYFmu)

--A Kir is dry white wine with Creme de Cassis (black currant liqueur): 3 parts wine, one part liqueur.

It is delicious.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (e7oj4)

518 468 461 why are we singing billy Joel songs?

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (DAdSz)

Because what the heck is wrong with that?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (cvabZ)

519 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (vFd8X)

Still processing...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (NWiLs)

520 That I am, your Grace.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 22, 2018 12:08 AM (8O3HH)

Another fine quality.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (txw6d)

521 So, are we talking about dating? Again?
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (rJUlF)

Sort of. More like self-loathing and perpetual loserdom.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (NWiLs)

Of course. Only Insomniac is doing self-loathing and perpetual loserdom though. I hope for many it is just frustration or current reality. Hell, if movie stars have trouble finding the right person, I don't know why us non golden idols think we won't have problems. I understand complaints and frustration. I won't buy forever doom though. That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Plus, I've seen too many "miracles"...or something.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (vFd8X)

522 489 Fight Club. If there's any man what needs to join one, it's Nespatnik.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (fA1SL)

Have you heard of Insomniac? He is a good man.

Posted by: Bob at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (PJmyj)

523 Captain Whitebread, yup, Honesty is one of my favorite Billy Joel songs too.

I wonder if Joel himself likes it though, it NEVER shows up on any of his hits compilations.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (km8m2)

524 504 hogmartin FTW!
Dude I LOL*d at that!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (DAdSz)

525 518 468 461 why are we singing billy Joel songs?

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (DAdSz)

Because what the heck is wrong with that?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (cvabZ)


Don't blame me. I didn't start the fire.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (rJUlF)

526 I'm not sure it really helps when you realize the next day it was one too many.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:10 AM (h2Bdk)

I'm not seeing the problem here.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (cvabZ)

527 Jeff Weimer: yup! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (km8m2)

528 514 507. In language of SMR, Nespatnik = Insomniac. Dude is a Floridian, which means he's a gopnik with a mullet.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:18 AM (fA1SL)

In spirit, if not in practice.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (NWiLs)

529 60% of women identity as Democrat so the pool is smaller for the Horde men.

Posted by: Sybil at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (2DOZq)

530 Beyonce actually did a cover of that song btw.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (km8m2)

Meaning that Billy Joel remains the only person to have actually sung it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:15 AM (bNb8V)

This!

Beyoncé. (Oh, thank you auto-corrupt for putting the fucking thingy over the second e!)


Gawd I hate pop tarts! Vocal gymnastics do not equal good singer!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (EhZNT)

531 518 468 461 why are we singing billy Joel songs?

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:09 AM (DAdSz)

Because what the heck is wrong with that?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (cvabZ)


Go ahead with your own life leave me alone.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (h2Bdk)

532 Statuesque and raven dressed, a goddess of the night

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (PUmDY)

533

One of my fondest memories is the night I met my wife. Drove in a wedding, she was a bridesmaid and for some reason I flat overlooked her.


At the reception I was standing at the edge of the dance floor looking around, tap on my shoulder, I turned and looked right over her head--she being just 5' tall and I managed 6' and a bit.

Looked into those bright green eyes and the rest, as they say was history. We were married 6 months later.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (S/hVx)

534 I know it's a not-Ferrari, but I would *love* to own that car. It's more valuable (for a certain set that includes me) than a *real* Ferrari California would be, just because of the movie.

I mean, who would not love to say "no, it's a replica California, but it *is* the car from Ferris Bueller/
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (cvabZ)

Yeah, as a movie car, it has collectable value right there. And while it is a fake Ferrari, it's not a crappy fake Ferrari. It's a perfectly good custom-built sports car made to look like a Ferrari.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (bNb8V)

535 @498 Insomniac-I would totally bang you too bro!!!
Get in line Farmer!

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (6oDGm)

536 --A Kir is dry white wine with Creme de Cassis (black currant liqueur): 3 parts wine, one part liqueur.

It is delicious.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (e7oj4)

Awesome! Thanks!

Posted by: 68W58 at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (rYFmu)

537 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (vFd8X)

Still processing...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:19 AM (NWiLs)



No, don't feel you need to respond. Just don't hate me or think I'm not liking you or something. I considered just zipping it, but not sure I'm doing you any favors. Also, that doom thing...you are so outta your mind on that. Too young too.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (vFd8X)

538 528. My dude - you've got superior Adibas tracksuit, a baseball bat, and sunflower seeds.
What more do you - or any man - need?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (fA1SL)

539 Of course. Only Insomniac is doing self-loathing and perpetual loserdom though. I hope for many it is just frustration or current reality. Hell, if movie stars have trouble finding the right person, I don't know why us non golden idols think we won't have problems. I understand complaints and frustration. I won't buy forever doom though. That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Plus, I've seen too many "miracles"...or something.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (vFd8X)

--I'm a broken record at this point, but just wait for my novel.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (e7oj4)

540 Ace's liver, good advice :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (km8m2)

541 Mullets and track suits are just too damn hot for Florida weather.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (NWiLs)

542
A classic local tale of this self-defeating feedback loop is "Borrowing the Jack". Rural setting with few houses around and lonely roads. A fellow is driving home one night and has a flat tire. He's got a spare, but no jack.

He's close to the house of this mean old man, a real get-off-my-lawn type, but no one else around for a long ways. So he decides he'll go and ask to borrow a jack.

As he's walking down the road and then down the old man's driveway, he's tells himself that old bastard probably won't let him borrow his jack, just to be mean. He'll probably laugh in his face and tell him to get the hell off his property.

He's gets really mad as finally gets to the door and knocks. When the old man answers and opens the door, the guy says, "I wouldn't want your god-damned jack anyway!" and storms off.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (8O3HH)

543 One of my fondest memories is the night I met my wife. Drove in a wedding, she was a bridesmaid and for some reason I flat overlooked her.

That's what made you worth pursuing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (h2Bdk)

544 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (vFd8X)

I've been in Insomniac's shoes. It's been over a decade now since my divorce. For years I despaired of ever meeting someone else.

Now, I just don't give a damn anymore. I'm not looking and just living my life the best way I know.

I don't feel qualified to give any advice, though.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:23 AM (rJUlF)

545 535 @498 Insomniac-I would totally bang you too bro!!!
Get in line Farmer!
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (6oDGm)

That escalated quickly.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:23 AM (NWiLs)

546 Gem: Virginia Woolf? Uh, okay... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:23 AM (km8m2)

547 One of my fondest memories is the night I met my wife. Drove in a wedding, she was a bridesmaid and for some reason I flat overlooked her.


At the reception I was standing at the edge of the dance floor looking around, tap on my shoulder, I turned and looked right over her head--she being just 5' tall and I managed 6' and a bit.

Looked into those bright green eyes and the rest, as they say was history. We were married 6 months later.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (S/hVx)



I love asking couples how they met...especially those married a long time. They come alive in such a special way. Love those stories.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:24 AM (vFd8X)

548 Captain Whitebread, that's where I am. I'm just living my life.

Maybe I'll meet someone, maybe not.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:24 AM (km8m2)

549 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:22 AM (vFd8X)

It's fine.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:24 AM (NWiLs)

550 Gawd I hate pop tarts! Vocal gymnastics do not equal good singer!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (EhZNT)

"Pop Tarts" would have been a great title for a K-Tel album.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:25 AM (rJUlF)

551 as someone said earlier in the context of pets, volunteer for something. That's not just good for meeting people, it fills your life. I volunteer on a couple local historical societies just for fun, it's not that much time and only as much work as you want it to be. And if you *are* looking to meet someone, well that's a great way to show you're able to work on something that benefits others, not just yourself. In other words, you can be selfless. That's an attractive quality.

but if you can't do that, well, Captain Jack will get you high tonight.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:25 AM (V2Yro)

552 It's not just the whole meeting someone thing, it's my entire mindset.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:25 AM (NWiLs)

553 Pug Mahon: Agreed about Beyonce.

In fairness, I don't think I've ever heard an actual song of hers all the way through, and what's more I don't care to.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:26 AM (km8m2)

554 491
Cherry Pepsi is almost as great as cherry Dr Pepper

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:14 AM (PUmDY)
I rarely drink soda these days, but I had Mexican Coke (the kind you drink, not snort) the other day. It's so much better, made with cane sugar instead of that damned corn syrup.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:26 AM (H80UQ)

555 Today I saw a YouTube clip of John Wayne being interviewed by some British dillweed. Most of the questions were about blacklisted Hollywood types. The Duke set him straight on all that. Like someone else said, I really miss him.

Posted by: sinalco at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (yODqO)

556 I rarely drink soda these days, but I had Mexican Coke (the kind you drink, not snort) the other day. It's so much better, made with cane sugar instead of that damned corn syrup.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:26 AM (H80UQ)


You know the Passover Coke trick, yeah?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (y87Qq)

557 484 Beyonce actually did a cover of that song btw.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (km8m2)

I think that's great, but it sound flat compared to the original.

Goddamn, I really need to go to a Billy Joel Concert before he quits doing them.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (cvabZ)

558 Cosmic, agreed about Cherry Pepsi! IMHO it's better than Cherry Coke.

Donna, MexiCoke isn't bad.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (km8m2)

559 541. So shave yer head. Honestly, this isn't that difficult.
Shave yer head, go to dance classes, start a Fight Club franchise, and give me all your goods and chattels.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (fA1SL)

560 qdpsteve,

That's all any of us can do, really.

I'm taking a lady friend to a concert Tuesday. Nothing romantic, just going to enjoy some dinner, music and each others company. No pressure. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:28 AM (rJUlF)

561 Jeff, yup.
A Billy Joel concert at MSG is one of the *few* reasons I would ever want to go to NY. (That and Peter Luger.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:28 AM (km8m2)

562 548 Captain Whitebread, that's where I am. I'm just living my life.

Maybe I'll meet someone, maybe not.

Ditto and ditto.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:28 AM (LOq4H)

563 Billy Joel Wrigley Field September 7th!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:28 AM (DAdSz)

564 I rarely drink soda these days, but I had Mexican Coke (the kind you drink, not snort) the other day. It's so much better, made with cane sugar instead of that damned corn syrup.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:26 AM (H80UQ)

Yeah. The cane sugar Coke seems to have more fizz to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:28 AM (bNb8V)

565 550 Gawd I hate pop tarts! Vocal gymnastics do not equal good singer!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (EhZNT)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FU3aAEayUE

I don't think any of them actually sing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:29 AM (h2Bdk)

566 Today I had a Coke made with cane sugar and stevia. It was terrible.

Posted by: sinalco at July 22, 2018 12:30 AM (yODqO)

567 Cheribebe, cool!
Hope Billy comes to Orange County, I'd see him if he comes to Honda Center.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:30 AM (km8m2)

568 You know the Passover Coke trick, yeah?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (y87Qq)
Nope.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:30 AM (H80UQ)

569 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:20 AM (vFd8X)

I've been in Insomniac's shoes. It's been over a decade now since my divorce. For years I despaired of ever meeting someone else.

Now, I just don't give a damn anymore. I'm not looking and just living my life the best way I know.

I don't feel qualified to give any advice, though.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:23 AM (rJUlF)


We all get dealt certain hands...it is how we play them. Having a full life, not basing it all on whether we have someone or not, is the healthiest way to go. Not that one doesn't get lonely or frustrated. That's not real. You try though Capt. Whitebread...you are out there. The door is left a little ajar. It only takes one moment in one day...but you have to be out there in some way.

Not giving a damn...also an option.

Also, not sure I'm qualified to say anything either. But that never stops me. I mean, if qualification is important I'd never post on anything ever.

Some people go 20 years post divorce. Then, boom, circumstances change. Suddenly, some one is there. But why waste 20 years miserable, ya know. At least not 24/7.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (vFd8X)

570 sinalco: you mean Coca-Cola Life?

I tried it. It was okay but nothing to write home about.

BTW your DVD is on the way! I mailed it yesterday.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (km8m2)

571 The strongest "general purpose" aspect of being attractive to women, quite simply is being competent across an array of skills and disciplines, and that in some meaningful LOCALIZED manner.

Localized is the key. You can be the kick ass Loading Dock Foreman from hell, but that doesn't really translate to where Miss Missy can see it and appreciate it, and thereby, appreciate you.

To the basics, if you can dress neatly (if not well or classily), clean up well in terms of grooming and cleanliness, that's your baseline.

Your home should be presentable, damn near always. That includes the yard and paint... it's curb-appeal reflects on yours. Inside, keep the dust down, the dishes done and the clothes offa the floor.

Skills wise? If you've got 'em, politely flaunt 'em. I've just completely rebuilt my entire front porch, stairs and all of the railings.

Front of the house looks good, and I met two neighbors I hadn't yet met during the build, as they stopped to admire, ask questions and converse about the neighborhood.

The suggestions for dancing are valid, but I have *NO* talent there. And I couldn't do the local animal shelter there. I'm too much the soft touch, and would have a house fulla dogs and cats OMG! living together!

One arena where I meet a disparate number of VERY inquisitive ladies, is when I provide basic shooting lessons, which sometimes come to me by referral from a local women's shelter network.

Yeah, I get 'em into the whole Cornered Cat universe, but I'm also a complete gentleman, don't make the *slightest* move to a "flirt", and naturally project an adult, manly, skillful, competent, instructive and supportive presence to them in the course of their lessons.

Some of them (daddy issues?), respond... bordering on, inappropriately. I quell those approaches with humor and a smile, but quell them all the same.

Point is though... if you have a skill, a trade or even are willing to teach simple classes on budgeting, banking and other forms of "solving chaos" that are so badly needed out there, you'll be, at least for a while, listened to, looked up to and appreciated.

Whatever you're good at, make it applicable to their lives, and make yourself available to teach it. Somewhere.

Your ego will thank you, bigly.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (QzJWU)

572 I live in my Dad's basement. So picking up chicks would be weird at this point in my life. To be clear I own a house and am a basement dweller to take care of Dad. But it would still be hard to explain to a date.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (YdakM)

573 The only thing that matters is that you are attractive not that you are "good looking."

Be realistic.


Make yourself as attractive as you possibly can and you will attract someone.



Posted by: Kreplach at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (UfMVm)

574 I rarely drink soda these days, but I had Mexican Coke

https://youtu.be/ppBaYqy0jpI?t=16s

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (h2Bdk)

575 566
Today I had a Coke made with cane sugar and stevia. It was terrible.

Posted by: sinalco at July 22, 2018 12:30 AM (yODqO)
Stevia stinks. Some like it, but it tastes bitter to me.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (H80UQ)

576 I think it has been mentioned here a few times about an AoS online dating thing. Someone needs to get on with it so some of you can meet like minded people. Hell I might even give it a whirl. What's the worse that could happen?

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (6oDGm)

577 I've been listening to Billy Joel forever, but if I had to pick one song that really hits me more than any other, each time I hear it, it's "I've loved these days". I lived through that once.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:32 AM (V2Yro)

578 568 You know the Passover Coke trick, yeah?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:27 AM (y87Qq)
Nope.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:30 AM (H80UQ)

Lamb's blood on the doorpost?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:32 AM (NWiLs)

579 Cheerwine? They make a sauce:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yagy8bcp

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2018 12:32 AM (xSo9G)

580 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FU3aAEayUE

I don't think any of them actually sing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:29 AM (h2Bdk)

That almost makes Yoko sound good. She sounds like a frog with emphysema.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:32 AM (bNb8V)

581 Hell I might even give it a whirl. What's the worse that could happen?
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (6oDGm)

Hey Sailor!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein at July 22, 2018 12:33 AM (bNb8V)

582 Tom, I've heard the song Billy Joel gets a kick out of performing these days, is "Miami 2017." (Which he wrote and originally recorded in something like 1978.)

He jokes, "I never thought it would actually come true."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:33 AM (km8m2)

583 Posted by: irongrampa at July 22, 2018 12:21 AM (S/hVx)

Funny how things work out. I met my beloved at Fort Sam Houston, of all places. She got her orders for Germany. I got my orders for Germany later.

Once I landed in FRG, I called her on a German payphone. We spent the summer of 1988 traveling between Nurnberg and Aschaffenburg on weekends.

Bottom line: there were literally hundreds of reasons why things should not have worked out. But we are celebrating our 30th anniversary in August. We will be in Yellowstone in a few weeks, which is where we spent our honeymoon (during the famous wildfires in 1988, heh).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:33 AM (EhZNT)

584 558, it is much better.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:34 AM (PUmDY)

585 576 I think it has been mentioned here a few times about an AoS online dating thing. Someone needs to get on with it so some of you can meet like minded people. Hell I might even give it a whirl. What's the worse that could happen?

Don't break great trying to make perfect. TRE

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:34 AM (LOq4H)

586 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:30 AM (H80UQ)

"Leavened bread" isn't kosher for Passover. What's "leavened bread"? Any grain that has been wet. Corn counts. Therefore, HFCS isn't kosher for Passover.

So, in some markets, soda companies will release a version that uses cane sugar during the Passover season, instead of HFCS. Usually the cap will be a different color, and it will have a tiny "kosher for Passover"* mark on the label. You can do an internet search to find out which they are.


* כשר לפסח

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (y87Qq)

587 Tom, this is the Billy Joel song that really chokes me up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3nFG6Js-Y

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (km8m2)

588 What's "leavened bread"? Any grain that has been wet. Corn counts. Therefore, HFCS isn't kosher for Passover.

Is that true? I thought leavening had to do with yeast.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (h2Bdk)

589 X-ray that scenario was in a movie. The guy lived in his moms basement but he owned the house and did so so she would be taken care of. Zoey deschannel loved the due for it.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (DAdSz)

590 But why waste 20 years miserable, ya know. At least not 24/7.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (vFd8X)

Oh, I had my miserable years. There were times I should have been placed on suicide watch.

What I mean about "not giving a damn" is no longer judging my value as a human being on whether I'm attached to someone else. Like you said, someone may very well come along. I'm just not actively looking for them. I'm also holding on faith. God knows how clueless I can be, and if he has to hit me with a metaphysical rolled-up newspaper to get me to realize "Hey, doofus! She likes you!"...well, I'm OK with that.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:36 AM (rJUlF)

591 Was never a big Billy Joel fan. the surgeon who did my colonoscopy sheepishly told me I looked like Billy Joel. I took no offense, except I'd rather look like Tom Hardy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:36 AM (EhZNT)

592 587 Tom, this is the Billy Joel song that really chokes me up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3nFG6Js-Y
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (km8m2)


Am I the only one who chokes up on Captain Jack?

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:37 AM (h2Bdk)

593 582 Tom, I've heard the song Billy Joel gets a kick out of performing these days, is "Miami 2017." (Which he wrote and originally recorded in something like 1978.)

I've adored that song since it first came out - that has one of the most brilliant opening piano cadenza's I can think of in any pop music of the last several decades.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:37 AM (V2Yro)

594 573 The only thing that matters is that you are attractive not that you are "good looking."

Be realistic.


Make yourself as attractive as you possibly can and you will attract someone.



Posted by: Kreplach at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (UfMVm)

--Yes, and what Jim wrote.

I have a BSD, but it's not like I could advertise that to the wifey right off the bat.

She's cerebral, and a chessmistress, so I had to woo her by being Joe Montana with my brain.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:37 AM (e7oj4)

595 Cinnamon pop tarts are proof God loves us.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:38 AM (PUmDY)

596 Coca-Cola Life? Is that what they call it? That's kinda dumb.

Posted by: sinalco at July 22, 2018 12:38 AM (yODqO)

597 478 Pepsi 1893 had a delicious black currant flavor.
Unfortunately, that whole line seems to have gone away.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:12 AM (km8m2)

---

How old are you??!

Posted by: SMH


I'm sure he's old enough to buy a Pepsi !

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 12:39 AM (2s3aR)

598 Stevia stinks. Some like it, but it tastes bitter to me.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (H80UQ)


--Best part of Breaking Bad:
https://youtu.be/NP7Nszp4Iwg

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:39 AM (e7oj4)

599 Point is though... if you have a skill, a trade or even are willing to teach simple classes on budgeting, banking and other forms of "solving chaos" that are so badly needed out there, you'll be, at least for a while, listened to, looked up to and appreciated.

I play music and tell stupid jokes on the radio.

So...my odds are GREAT.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:39 AM (rJUlF)

600 Is that true? I thought leavening had to do with yeast.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (h2Bdk)


You're right, it does, but the rules are 18 minutes (I think) after a grain has been wetted. There's a list of grains that count as 'grains' too.

Kashrut also has rules about how eggs and fish aren't meat, so it's not exactly scientific. It's more Tanakhic strict constructionism.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:40 AM (y87Qq)

601 Ace's liver: LOL. Chokes me up LITERALLY. ;-)

Cosmic: true.

sinalco, yup, that's what it's called. Green label.

JT, and then some :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:40 AM (km8m2)

602 I play music and tell stupid jokes on the radio

so? Mining for material?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (LOq4H)

603 587 Tom, this is the Billy Joel song that really chokes me up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3nFG6Js-Y
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (km8m2)

--I thought for sure it was "Allentown." True Trump song.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (e7oj4)

604 Pug, I can think of worse people to look like ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (km8m2)

605 430 If I was gonna advise someone on where to find a partner, I would say pick between being a Catholic or a Baptist, and start taking some bible classes. Both outfits are full of women looking for partners, of all ages.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:02 AM (V2Yro)

LOL, busted.

Posted by: Iris at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (6lKe4)

606 You're right, it does, but the rules are 18 minutes (I think) after a grain has been wetted. There's a list of grains that count as 'grains' too.

Kashrut also has rules about how eggs and fish aren't meat, so it's not exactly scientific. It's more Tanakhic strict constructionism.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018

The stuff one learns on a smart military blog!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (DAdSz)

607 logprof, that song, "Where's the Orchestra?", concludes The Nylon Curtain.

The last few notes, echo Allentown (which begins the same album).

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (km8m2)

608 603 587 Tom, this is the Billy Joel song that really chokes me up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3nFG6Js-Y
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:35 AM (km8m2)

--I thought for sure it was "Allentown." True Trump song.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (e7oj4)


Funny how old that song is now and things really haven't changed.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:42 AM (h2Bdk)

609 X-ray that scenario was in a movie. The guy lived in his moms basement but he owned the house and did so so she would be taken care of. Zoey deschannel loved the due for it.
Posted by: Cheribebe


If Zoey D showed up at my basement door I'd be ecstatic. But the house I own is not the one I live in. And because I am a super Dad one of my daughters pays fake rent to live in my house.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 12:42 AM (YdakM)

610 I like Captain Jack a lot - and what I like the most is that when the refrain comes, "Captain Jack will get you high tonight", the base line is not only a counterpoint to the melody, it bursts through and is far more powerful and gripping melodic line than the upper, vocal part is. That's the part I always find myself humming along to whenever it plays.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:43 AM (V2Yro)

611 I live in my Dad's basement. So picking up chicks would be weird at this point in my life. To be clear I own a house and am a basement dweller to take care of Dad. But it would still be hard to explain to a date.
Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (YdakM)

------------

I'm not sure why explaining this would be so hard. You have done a fine job explaining it here. .

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 12:43 AM (+1YDx)

612 Funny how old that song is now and things really haven't changed.

We were watching standup comedian from the 80s, a lot of his material still worked and was funny.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:44 AM (DAdSz)

613 The stuff one learns on a smart military blog!
Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (DAdSz)


This place is crawling with yids. I'm not a cob though, so I'm not on the weather-control roster.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:44 AM (y87Qq)

614 Pug, I can think of worse people to look like ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:41 AM (km8m2)

Yeah. That's why I just chuckled and said, could be worse.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 22, 2018 12:44 AM (EhZNT)

615 I would say pick between being a Catholic or a Baptist, and start taking some bible classes.

I'm the Mr Robot of scripture. You realise.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 22, 2018 12:44 AM (N1ZXu)

616 okay, time to go to bed. My dreams will be full of Billy Joel songs, no doubt!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2018 12:45 AM (V2Yro)

617 I'm sure he's old enough to buy a Pepsi !
Posted by: JT
------------

Technically, Pepsi did not exist in 1893. Wiki:
Originally created and developed in 1893 by Caleb Bradham and introduced as Brad's Drink.

Wasn't renamed until 1898.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2018 12:45 AM (xSo9G)

618 @581 Mary Cloggenstein- I don't know, Brattleboro is pretty far and you are an old lefty skank. Just not feeling it honey.

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:45 AM (6oDGm)

619 Goodnight horde, I came back and caught up on comments, I wish you all well, you are a great group of people. I was going to say folks, but then I'd have to wear my Barack sock with the creepy porno mustache!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 22, 2018 12:46 AM (nWc4E)

620
I think it has been mentioned here a few times about an AoS online
dating thing. Someone needs to get on with it so some of you can meet
like minded people. Hell I might even give it a whirl. What's the worse
that could happen?

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:31 AM (6oDGm)

That someone has to relocate?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:46 AM (txw6d)

621 IMHO there's tons of good stuff on The Nylon Curtain.

Billy Joel also has a song on there about a ridonkulously co-dependent relationship, Laura. Very much sounds like a John Lennon piece.

And then there's Surprises, which is Joel ANGRILY looking back at his days being screwed around by his agents and original record company.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:47 AM (km8m2)

622 Jack White, I'm slowly turning into you

https://youtu.be/cnE6Mg0nDJw

Live event.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 22, 2018 12:47 AM (rnAwa)

623 I was going to say folks, but then I'd have to wear my Barack sock with the creepy porno mustache!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 22, 2018 12:46 AM (nWc4E)


That's not who we are.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:48 AM (y87Qq)

624 You have described a positive feedback loop.

Not being snarky or flip here. Your fear of failure is causing you to take action (or inaction) that reinforces the fail.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:13 AM (bNb8V)

I think you're 100% correct.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 12:16 AM (NWiLs)



He is. Then you write it out, which reinforces it more. Then all the other people say it is true, and suddenly we have a cascade. Then you are in the black pit.

I'm not sure what to do. It would be easy to say nothing or check out. That is probably my default. But I wanted to give it one more shot. When you go there, what would help? Ignoring you? Telling you to shutty? Short-circuit you with a cattle prod?

I won't help you dig a deeper pit, nor will I continue to throw offers of help at a brick wall. However, you suffer from depression, and I don't want to leave you flailing in doom. So tell me, what will help? If you don't know...and I say this with concern and compassion...think of something. Use that wonderful brain for good and not doom. I'm sorry if I went too far...I SO HOPE I didn't. If I did, please forgive me.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:48 AM (vFd8X)

625 Originally created and developed in 1893 by Caleb Bradham and introduced as Brad's Drink.

Wasn't renamed until 1898.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2018 12:45 AM (xSo9G)


You loved Brad's Drink.

Then you renamed it.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:49 AM (y87Qq)

626 hogmartin, you are on fire tonight

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:49 AM (PUmDY)

627 And then there's Surprises, which is Joel ANGRILY looking back at his days being screwed around by his agents and original record company.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:47 AM (km8m2)


It's difficult to feel much sympathy for a guy who was blessed with so much talent, is as rich as Croesus, and was married to Christie Brinkley in her prime.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:49 AM (h2Bdk)

628 hogmartin, you are on fire tonight
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:49 AM (PUmDY)


Thanks, I think.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (y87Qq)

629 I'm not sure why explaining this would be so hard. You have done a fine job explaining it here. .
Posted by: Calm Mentor


Are you inferring I am using my situation as a excuse?

You're probably right. I'll have to think about that now and I hate thinking.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (YdakM)

630 544
Now, I just don't give a damn anymore. I'm not looking and just living my life the best way I know.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:23 AM (rJUlF)


Same here, and it's been like that for a long time.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (sdi6R)

631 Ace's liver, I agree that by 1983 it should have been water under the bridge for him, but still... all I can say is, great song.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (km8m2)

632 Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:45 AM (6oDGm


Dn't know if you were around, but 2 people did hook up and are engaged. Shibumi...and um...the guy half. I don't remember his name.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (vFd8X)

633 He is. Then you write it out, which reinforces it more. Then all the other people say it is true, and suddenly we have a cascade. Then you are in the black pit.

Is that like the barrel ?

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (2s3aR)

634 Shibumi...and um...the guy half. I don't remember his name.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (vFd8X)


Bozo Conservative.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:51 AM (y87Qq)

635 Ric Ocasek and Paulina are still married, I think.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:52 AM (PUmDY)

636 Since it's been mentioned, here's Billy Joel's "Allentown"

https://youtu.be/BHnJp0oyOxs

1/2 of my family hails from Bethlehem, so it's a poignant song. . . .

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:52 AM (e7oj4)

637 1/2 of my family hails from Bethlehem, so it's a poignant song. . . .
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:52 AM (e7oj4)


Whoa, neat. My mom's entire side of the family - all ~30 of them - live within 90 minutes of Hazleton.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:55 AM (y87Qq)

638 635 Ric Ocasek and Paulina are still married, I think.

Nope, been separated for a bit and are filing for divorce

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:55 AM (DAdSz)

639 Since it's been mentioned, here's Billy Joel's "Allentown"

Whenever I hear that song, I sing....


Well I'm sittin' here in Allentown

and when I stand up my pants fall down

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 12:55 AM (2s3aR)

640 @581 Mary Cloggenstein- I don't know, Brattleboro is pretty far and you are an old lefty skank. Just not feeling it honey.
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:45 AM (6oDGm)

Well, if I'm not worse enough for you, I know this young gal, Lena...

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein at July 22, 2018 12:55 AM (bNb8V)

641 @620 Miley, the Duchess-Finding someone of value and of like mind is rare. People relocate for all kinds of reasons. Not trying to be flip about it, I know it's not easy.

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:56 AM (6oDGm)

642 Nitey nite peeps!! See ya on the flip side!

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:57 AM (DAdSz)

643 Goodnight Cheribebe :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:57 AM (km8m2)

644 While we're talking Billy Joel songs....

He wrote "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" with Ronnie Spector in mind. Ronnie covered it, backed by the E Street Band, in 1977. I finally heard it today, and I like it.

https://youtu.be/yJ72eejEcTQ

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 12:58 AM (rJUlF)

645 1/2 of my family hails from Bethlehem, so it's a poignant song. . . .

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:52 AM (e7oj4)

My Tim's mother's family were descended from the original Moravians.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:58 AM (txw6d)

646 166 Aston Martin reveals flying car that could hit 200mph (link to Fox Business)

https://tinyurl.com/ydxrkafu

---

My Honda Civic could do all that. At the Grand Canyon. Once.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 22, 2018 12:58 AM (t5m5e)

647 Night, Cheribebe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 12:58 AM (bNb8V)

648 Is Claudia Schiffer still with the magician?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (PUmDY)

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (DAdSz)

650 Good night, Cheribebe.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (y87Qq)

651 Funny how old that song is now and things really haven't changed.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 12:42 AM (h2Bdk)

--The Lehigh Valley is to me one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Not as spectacular as the Shenandoah Valley, but right up there.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (e7oj4)

652 CW, I had no idea about that. Thanks for the link!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (km8m2)

653 Maybe it is me, but there are way worse things than being alone. The loneliest I have ever felt in my life was being a relationship I shouldn't have been in. I also see people unhappy in relationships.

Often, people are unhappy in their lives, look for someone to change that, but it only works a short time.

I guess I'm just saying look at the flipside of the coin sometimes...maybe it can mitigate the societal drumbeat, or loneliness. The desire for someone, the being paired off, I think is natural. But man, sometimes you guys go to such a dark place. Like, end of the world, suicidal place. No wait...that is not correct. Sometimes I'd get. All the time...that's just dangerous.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (vFd8X)

654 Are you inferring I am using my situation as a excuse?

You're probably right. I'll have to think about that now and I hate thinking.
Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 12:50 AM (YdakM)

------

No, but I could easily see how you could take it that way.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (+1YDx)

655 @620 Miley, the Duchess-Finding someone of value and
of like mind is rare. People relocate for all kinds of reasons. Not
trying to be flip about it, I know it's not easy.

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 12:56 AM (6oDGm)

For someone like me, it's relatively easy. Especially if I find someone of value and like mind.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 01:00 AM (txw6d)

656 Wow, there were some pretty hefty wind gusts there.

The temperature is nice and I have my windows open.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:00 AM (sdi6R)

657 I didnt disappear. I was just reading this thread while drinking rum.

I feel enlightened and also giggly.

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 22, 2018 01:00 AM (Zogyx)

658 platypus, I agree 100% that there are far worse things than being alone.

My part-time job right now is working at a "family law" (i.e., divorce/child support/child custody) law firm. OMG...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:00 AM (km8m2)

659 Sometimes I'd get. All the time...that's just dangerous.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (vFd8X)

I agree. It's also not an easy rut to pull yourself out of. You have to want to do it. For several years, I didn't want to. Too much effort and energy.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 01:02 AM (rJUlF)

660 My Tim's mother's family were descended from the original Moravians.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 12:58 AM (txw6d)

--My grandparents on my dad's side always hung Moravian Stars at Christmas. Lord, I miss that.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 01:02 AM (e7oj4)

661 My Honda Civic could do all that. At the Grand Canyon. Once.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 22, 2018 12:58 AM (t5m5e)

Could we start a GoFundMe to have Michael Moore jump the Grand Canyon in a Tesla?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 01:03 AM (bNb8V)

662 Falcon 9 is at T-47 minutes and counting. Fueling starts at T-35.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:03 AM (sdi6R)

663
The Saturday Night Joke

The Glass Eye

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0508296

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2018 01:03 AM (IqV8l)

664 I may be disappearing soon. If so, goodnight to you all. I appreciated some of the insights being shared. It's why I love it here.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 01:03 AM (txw6d)

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 22, 2018 01:03 AM (Zogyx)

Posted by: Robert knows what's best in life at July 22, 2018 01:04 AM (Zogyx)

667 Goodnight Miley! Love having you here even when we don't chat. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:04 AM (km8m2)

668 Often, people are unhappy in their lives, look for someone to change that, but it only works a short time.

Some truth bombs from Will Smith, of all people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUwzrqcPujg

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:04 AM (h2Bdk)

669 --My grandparents on my dad's side always hung Moravian Stars at Christmas. Lord, I miss that.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 01:02 AM (e7oj4)

I used to make Mandelspitzen at Christmas.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 01:05 AM (txw6d)

670 Nitey nite peeps!! See ya on the flip side!

Posted by: Cheribebe


Night Cheribebe !

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 01:05 AM (2s3aR)

671 Could we start a GoFundMe to have Michael Moore jump the Grand Canyon in a Tesla?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 01:03 AM (bNb8V)


Ooo! Ooo!! Put it on pay-per-view!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:05 AM (km8m2)

672 But man, sometimes you guys go to such a dark place. Like, end of the world, suicidal place. No wait...that is not correct. Sometimes I'd get. All the time...that's just dangerous.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (vFd8X)


Would... would you like an Otter Pop?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:05 AM (y87Qq)

673 Goodnight, qdpsteve!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2018 01:06 AM (txw6d)

674 My favorite Joel is Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.

He just set a bunch of scenes, and it just speaks to me.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 01:06 AM (cvabZ)

675 'night Miley.

Listen to some Cake, if it won't keep you from sleeping.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:06 AM (y87Qq)

676 I used to make Mandelspitzen at Christmas.


Posted by: Miley,


What's with the spitzen part ?

Is that one of the ingredients ?

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (2s3aR)

677 Well, I think I will call it a night, too. Tomorrow may be a travel day to work. Sooner or later, I will get the word to go. Been delayed 4 times now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (bNb8V)

678 https://youtu.be/rxnYIANcFyM


Bethlehem Steel - Grant Lee Buffalo

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (yc6aH)

679 674 My favorite Joel is Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.

He just set a bunch of scenes, and it just speaks to me.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 01:06 AM (cvabZ)


That's a great song.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (h2Bdk)

680 Jeff, that's one of Joel's masterpieces to be sure.

He even talks about writing it, in some of the extra interview tracks on his greatest hits box set.

"A bottle of red, a bottle of white,
it all depends on your appetite..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (km8m2)

681 My favorite Joel is Moon Zero Two.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2018 01:08 AM (IqV8l)

682 668 Often, people are unhappy in their lives, look for someone to change that, but it only works a short time.

Some truth bombs from Will Smith, of all people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUwzrqcPujg
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:04 AM (h2Bdk)

--He is right.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 01:08 AM (e7oj4)

683 My favorite Joel is Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.

He just set a bunch of scenes, and it just speaks to me.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 01:06 AM (cvabZ)

That's a great song.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (h2Bdk)

That's my favorite Joel song ever. He's said it's his favorite, too.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 01:09 AM (rJUlF)

684 Nite AOP.

Nite Miley .

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 01:09 AM (2s3aR)

685 Don't be going to sleep just yet. The SpaceX webcast will be starting in about 20 minutes. Launch of the Telstar 19 communications satellite is set for 1:50 am ET.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:09 AM (sdi6R)

686 0545 alarm, very little margin for error.

In other words, a good night's sleep lies ahead.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!

*ejects*

*chute deploys*

*lands on pillow*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2018 01:10 AM (QzJWU)

687 I wanted to mention that if anyone has some spare time Samaritan*s purse is looking for volunteers to help out Mashalltown,IA. That town was decimated by a tornado Thursday. They need workers to help dig out and clean up.

Now off to bed.

Posted by: Cheribebe at July 22, 2018 01:10 AM (DAdSz)

688 Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 12:39 AM (e7oj4)

Ha!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 22, 2018 01:10 AM (H80UQ)

689 685 Don't be going to sleep just yet. The SpaceX webcast will be starting in about 20 minutes. Launch of the Telstar 19 communications satellite is set for 1:50 am ET.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:09 AM (sdi6R)


Oh, thanks for that. I had forgotten about it. Relaunch of the first Block 5.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:11 AM (h2Bdk)

690 Some truth bombs from Will Smith, of all people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUwzrqcPujg
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:04 AM (h2Bdk)


That's about perfect right there, concise and thorough. Says it all.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:11 AM (y87Qq)

691 678 https://youtu.be/rxnYIANcFyM


Bethlehem Steel - Grant Lee Buffalo

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (yc6aH)

--Bethlehem Steel, R.I.P.

Great-grandpop worked there.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 01:12 AM (e7oj4)

692 @655 Miley, the Duchess-I know your story a bit Miley, you sound like an exceptional woman, I'm surprised no one from AoS has not tried to scoop you up. I hope you, qdpsteve, Insomniac and a few others here find worthy companionship.

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 01:12 AM (6oDGm)

693 Here is the link for the webcast, which hasn't started yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xybp6zLaGx4

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:12 AM (sdi6R)

694 JROD, thanks :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:13 AM (km8m2)

695 Sometimes I'd get. All the time...that's just dangerous.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:59 AM (vFd8X)

I agree. It's also not an easy rut to pull yourself out of. You have to want to do it. For several years, I didn't want to. Too much effort and energy.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread, World's Worst Superhero at July 22, 2018 01:02 AM (rJUlF)


Yea, I really hate being all blabby about it. It'd be easier to not say anything. I don't want to offend anyone or say life is easy or everyone will find someone, or anything like that. I just think a lot of you are wonderful people, and when the darkness gets rolling and suddenly everyone is like a 95 yo who has no chance of meeting anyone ever...so life isn't worth living... it is sad and such a lie.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 01:13 AM (vFd8X)

696 Launch of the Telstar 19 communications satellite is set for 1:50 am ET.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:09 AM (sdi6R)


Wow. That's an awfully low number for a family of satellites that's been around for *counts* over 50 years.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:13 AM (y87Qq)

697 I won't help you dig a deeper pit, nor will I continue to throw offers of help at a brick wall. However, you suffer from depression, and I don't want to leave you flailing in doom. So tell me, what will help? If you don't know...and I say this with concern and compassion...think of something. Use that wonderful brain for good and not doom. I'm sorry if I went too far...I SO HOPE I didn't. If I did, please forgive me.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 22, 2018 12:48 AM (vFd8X)

I haven't the slightest idea. I don't mean this to be smartassed but if I knew I wouldn't be in the condition I'm in.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 22, 2018 01:14 AM (NWiLs)

698 I get the honor of going to my daughters house and fixing her car. I think I can I think I can I think I can. The little dork that could is the ending to the story I'm shooting for.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 01:14 AM (YdakM)

699 689
Oh, thanks for that. I had forgotten about it. Relaunch of the first Block 5.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:11 AM (h2Bdk)


I'm not sure, but I think this is the second Block 5, a new rocket.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:14 AM (sdi6R)

700 It's a shame they don't make it to smell like Lionel locomotive smoke.

Half of the Lionel smell is ozone from the open frame motor.

But original smoke pellets? Nirvana.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 22, 2018 01:14 AM (brIR5)

701 Don't be going to sleep just yet. The SpaceX webcast will be starting in about 20 minutes. Launch of the Telstar 19 communications satellite is set for 1:50 am ET.

Posted by: rickl


Sorry rickl. I'm gonna have to pass.

Nite all .

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2018 01:15 AM (2s3aR)

702 The little dork that could
Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2018 01:14 AM (YdakM)


That's from Kierkegaard, right?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:16 AM (y87Qq)

703 680 Jeff, that's one of Joel's masterpieces to be sure.

He even talks about writing it, in some of the extra interview tracks on his greatest hits box set.

"A bottle of red, a bottle of white,
it all depends on your appetite..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:07 AM (km8m2)

I have the set, and after hearing his explanation, it gives more to the song.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2018 01:17 AM (cvabZ)

704 While not paying attention, my Pittsburgh Pirates have won 8 in a row. They are still in 4th place in the NL Central but above .500. Still not expecting much from them this year but at least they are respectable at the moment.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 22, 2018 01:17 AM (yc6aH)

705 One of my fondest childhood memories is visiting my great-grandparents in Bethlehem. I was *obsessed* with trains as a boy, and the railroad went right by their backyard.

If I could have captured that joy in a jar. . . .

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (e7oj4)

706 696
Wow. That's an awfully low number for a family of satellites that's been around for *counts* over 50 years.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:13 AM (y87Qq)


I remember watching a film about the first Telstar back in elementary school.

Modern communications and weather satellites are usually designed for about a 15 year lifespan. Of course, they are much larger and more capable than their ancestors in the 1960s.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (sdi6R)

707 Jeff, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (km8m2)

708 Time for the old folk. Busy day tomorrow, I got the duty at our family fish fry.

Never lose sight of where we are blessed to live, a place unique in the world.

And in keeping with that, remember we are Americans, so that head is held HIGH and PROUD.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe and sleep well.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (S/hVx)

709 I hope you, qdpsteve, Insomniac find worthy companionship.
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 01:12 AM (6oDGm)

Sad face

Posted by: Robert really is chopped liver at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (Zogyx)

710 699 689
Oh, thanks for that. I had forgotten about it. Relaunch of the first Block 5.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:11 AM (h2Bdk)

I'm not sure, but I think this is the second Block 5, a new rocket.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:14 AM (sdi6R)


Yeah, you're right. The wording on the story I was ambiguous and I read it the wrong way.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 22, 2018 01:19 AM (h2Bdk)

711 Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (sdi6R)

Not exactly related, are you familiar with Telstar Logistics?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:19 AM (y87Qq)

712 711
Not exactly related, are you familiar with Telstar Logistics?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:19 AM (y87Qq)


No, I'm not.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:21 AM (sdi6R)

713 @709 Robert-.......and you too.

Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 01:22 AM (6oDGm)

714 Well, good night to everyone who is calling it a night.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2018 01:23 AM (sdi6R)

715 I'm familiar with Telstar, the *song* by Joe Meek and the Tornados. Very first British Invasion hit song, supposedly. (And Joe Meek was even crazier than Phil Spector.)

Talk about an earworm. The 1962-era Clavioline synthesizer sounded like a billion flies buzzing at once. One of those songs that gets stuck in my head and I have to use a jackhammer to remove it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 22, 2018 01:23 AM (km8m2)

716 I was going to run today, like I do most Saturday mornings. The temperature was 107 F, so I said nah.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 22, 2018 01:23 AM (rnAwa)

717 709 I hope you, qdpsteve, Insomniac find worthy companionship.
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 01:12 AM (6oDGm)

Sad face
Posted by: Robert really is chopped liver at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (Zogyx)

--Dog knows if I can, you can.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2018 01:23 AM (e7oj4)

718 I hope you, qdpsteve, Insomniac find worthy companionship.
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2018 01:12 AM (6oDGm)

Sad face
Posted by: Robert really is chopped liver at July 22, 2018 01:18 AM (Zogyx)


Must have just been an oversight. I'm sure we'll be mentioned in the next communiqué! HQ hasn't forgotten about us!

*tightens helmet chinstrap*
*fixes bayonet*

Posted by: hogmartin at July 22, 2018 01:23 AM (y87Qq)

719 LOL! A Democrat candidate for the Wisconsin assembly has been caught forging signatures on her nomination papers. Charlisse Daniels was featured on CNN last year as a woman who had decided to run due to Trump's election. She had been through a 70 hour training program by an outfit called Emerge America, which recruits Dem candidate. Evidently "Forgery 101" was one of the topics. Ah, dear, another bright young le