Supreme Court Ready to Rule In Favor of Trump on DACA Termination

The Supreme Court had earlier upheld a circuit court ruling that DAPA -- DACA for adults -- was unconstitutional.

Then Trump used an executive order to cancel Barack Obama's previous DACA executive order.

Leftwing activists filed suit, claiming the Something precedent, and obviously a Hawaiian Judge found this argument plausible and issued a, get this, national injunction against the president's use of his executive authority.

Based on the day's oral arguments and questions from the justices, court watchers expect the Supreme Court to uphold Trump's order and end the injunction.

They're even questioning on what basis courts are even presuming to overrule an executive decision to cancel a prior executive decision.

Something we're all wondering.


A closely divided Supreme Court seemed inclined to uphold President Donald Trump’s bid to terminate the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program during arguments Tuesday morning.

The high court’s conservative majority appeared to think the administration has provided an adequate basis for ending the policy, and in spaces even wondered if the courts have power to review the dispute.

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"You've got a court of appeals decision affirmed by an equally-divided Supreme Court," Roberts said, in reference to the earlier DAPA case. "Can't he just say that's the basis on which I’m making this decision?"

Apart from concerns about DACA’s legality, Justice Brett Kavanaugh said the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) identified independent policy reasons for ending the program. He repeatedly challenged lawyers representing left-leaning states and civil rights groups to identify what more the government should have done.

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Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (aS1PU)

2 not st

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (q80AH)

3 They're even questioning on what basis courts are even presuming to overrule an executive decision to cancel a prior executive decision.

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Hey, maybe by ending Chevron we could clear this up.

"Is it in the statue explicitly? No? Then no, the executive isn't allowed to do this."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:20 PM (q80AH)

4 th

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (BqBId)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (arJlL)

6 SCROTUS has ruled in favor of gun grabbers today as well.

This.Is.Not.Winning.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (Pzzpr)

7 Before doing too much celebrating, recall all the legal so called experts predicted SCOTUS would nuke Obamacare based on how the justices acted and what they said.

How did that work out?

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (wneaL)

8 The Court literally has no Standing here, do they?

I mean...

The Executive holds this power alone.

And Obama and Trump, in this case, are the same person.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (AIGhm)

9 Well, I'm heartened to hear that our Supreme Court might rule in favor of following the fucking law.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (U6f/q)

10 Now, that really would require my shocked face.

Posted by: Howard Johnson at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (z1DPh)

11 They're even questioning on what basis courts are even presuming to overrule an executive decision to cancel a prior executive decision.
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It's in the Good and Plenty Clause.

Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (uEbPt)

12 i'll believe it when i see it

Posted by: BIG ALFREDO at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (Vdukr)

13 You think our forebears are spinning in their graves, knowing that an elected president cannot undo the (illegal) thing that the previous president did?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (xptlg)

14 7 Before doing too much celebrating, recall all the legal so called experts predicted SCOTUS would nuke Obamacare based on how the justices acted and what they said.

How did that work out?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (wneaL)

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Well, they did, until Roberts changed his opinion at the last second. They were going to uproot the ACA completely until that sudden last second change.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (q80AH)

15 Something in the way, they legislate,
Attracts me like, no other legal theory!


Eh, maybe not ...

Posted by: Adriane the Chronological Critic ... at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (LPnfS)

16 This makes me so happy I want to go to San Francisco and piss on a sidewalk.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)

17 might've been first but caught reading the post below.



Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (M3a0a)

18 Justice Brett Kavanaugh said the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) identified independent policy reasons for ending the program. He repeatedly challenged lawyers representing left-leaning states and civil rights groups to identify what more the government should have done.
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Kneel before Zod, of course.

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (G0vdT)

19 Build the dang wall!

Posted by: zombie John McStain at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (/FMDH)

20 I very much doubt that the Justices could even hear the argument over the noise from Ginsberg's Iron Lung.


Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (AIGhm)

21 11 They're even questioning on what basis courts are even presuming to overrule an executive decision to cancel a prior executive decision.
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It's in the Good and Plenty Clause.
Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (uEbPt)

Interstate Commerce, of course!

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (NgKpN)

22 Trump violated the arbitrary and capricious clause. All decisions must be justified to not be arbitrary and capricious in the eyes of every single federal judge. If one finds a decision arbitrary and capricious, that judge has full unopposable veto power.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (UB/j7)

23 It's A Tax!!!

Posted by: Roberts at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (NiXyF)

24 Anybody think one of the liberal wing will split off and vote correctly on this?

Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (xptlg)

25 SCOTUS allowed sandy hook lawsuits to proceed even though the law states clearly they cannot. So much for a conservative court. Even when we win we end up losing.

This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it. What scotus did today was disastrous.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (wneaL)

26 20 I very much doubt that the Justices could even hear the argument over the noise from Ginsberg's Iron Lung.


Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (AIGhm)

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That's just the noise she makes when she squats more than three hundred pounds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (q80AH)

27 Deport!
Deport!
Deport!

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (P0nip)

28 >>They're even questioning on what basis courts are even presuming to overrule an executive decision to cancel a prior executive decision.


If it so much as touches the penumbras, they have to consider it.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (AIGhm)

29 "You've got a court of appeals decision affirmed by an equally-divided Supreme Court, Roberts said, in reference to the earlier DAPA case. "Can't he just say that's the basis on which I'm making this decision."
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One would think this would be a good rationale for the courts to stay out of a lot of disputes.

But what the heck, let's just change the millennial age definition of "marriage"

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (sX1BW)

30 Yeah, now if only there were a legal equivalent of LOLGF for the circuit judges issuing national injunctions.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

31 I too, am of the believe it when I see it party.
This should not even be a court case.
The judiciary has abrogated to itself, with the collusion of congress, the lawmaking for our country.
At every level from traffic court to the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (Tt761)

32 "Aloha" not only means "Hello" and "Goodbye," it also means "Take it up the ass, stupid rednecks!"

Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (fK2gX)

33 I will be shocked if it's a 6-3, if not a 5-4 decision. It's not going to be 9-0 as it plainly should be.

We have at least 3 and often 4 justices for whom law and the Constitution are impediments to their politics and they don't even try to hide it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (QQ+il)

34 At lunch was listening to Scott Adams and he was unsure which way the new tiebreaker Roberts would go.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ZCEU2)

35 24 Anybody think one of the liberal wing will split off and vote correctly on this?

Yeah, me neither.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (xptlg)

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I can easily imagine Kagan voting in favor of letting Trump end DACA. She's probably the most honest liberal on the court.

And I think Breyer has a long history of deferring to the executive that could push him that way.

RBG and Sotomayor, though, are insane progtards and will never contribute to a major Trump victory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (q80AH)

36 Hmmm, I'm reading and get to the bottom with no comments... and then it hits me *facepalm*

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (+ldAm)

37 Speaking of SCOTUS, how's Rutabaga doing?

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

38 Justice Ginsberg asked of the Defendant Counsel, "What about your GAINZ, Bro? Do you even lift?"

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (AIGhm)

39 25
SCOTUS allowed sandy hook lawsuits to proceed even though the law states
clearly they cannot. So much for a conservative court. Even when we win
we end up losing.



This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry
through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it.
What scotus did today was disastrous.


This is a huge black eye for Trump.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (Pzzpr)

40 Kinda OT but relevant to the side bar links:

So Matt Reeves "The Batman" the one staring Twilight princess Robert Pattison has apparently race swapped 3 of the leads. Commissioner Gordon, Cat Woman and Batgirl (by default, being commissioner Gordon's daughter) are all apparently POCs now. I haven't given up hope. It still might be good or even great. The casting of Gordon is apparently Jeffrey Wright, who was outstanding in West World. But it's still a troubling sign. The first clue that this may end up being a woke cluster fuck.

Posted by: Max Power at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (q177U)

41 At lunch was listening to Scott Adams and he was unsure which way the new tiebreaker Roberts would go.
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ZCEU2)


What does the New York Times say? That's the way he will go.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (aS1PU)

42 Hmmm, I'm reading and get to the bottom with no comments... and then it hits me *facepalm*
Posted by: NALNAMSAM

You coulda been a contendah !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (arJlL)

43 Aloha" not only means "Hello" and "Goodbye," it also means "Take it up the ass, stupid rednecks!"
Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (fK2gX)


Mahalo means "Bless your heart"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (UB/j7)

44

I don't care if I ever see my wife and kids again, but I want my dog back...

Posted by: J. Roberts, SCROTUS at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (ZKH8Q)

45 7-2

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (P0nip)

46 It's different when Drumf does it!

Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (KNsKs)

47 I can easily imagine Kagan voting in favor of letting Trump end DACA. She's probably the most honest liberal on the court.

And I think Breyer has a long history of deferring to the executive that could push him that way.

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Dems are more likely to use the executive to expand government, so deferring to the executive is a good idea, even if it grants Trump a temp victory of sorts.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (sX1BW)

48 37 Speaking of SCOTUS, how's Rutabaga doing?
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

Absorbed three souls just this morning. Winning!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (RD7QR)

49 Not sure an argument that says that the Government needs to show they've "done all that they can" is even valid in the case, regardless. They can end DACA because they are given the Constitutional powers to do so, not because they offered everyone sufficient proof they've done "all that they can."

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (32YRo)

50 46 It's different when Drumf does it!
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (KNsKs)

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How did you find the DNC's top secret motto for 2020?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (q80AH)

51 Anybody have a sense of how long it'll be before they issue a decision?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (uRVQN)

52 >>RBG and Sotomayor, though, are insane progtards and will never contribute to a major Trump victory.

From reports I've heard Sotomayer was complaing about the disruption this would cause and not arguing the law.

This is the famous Wise Latina compassion and empathy Obama told us about.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

53 I'll believe it when I see it. I expect a Roberts' ruling that DACA is a tax.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (H8QX8)

54 C'monnnnn, Trump!

By which I also mean, appoint some more strict constructionalist justices next year and/or during your second term. At least one when RBG finally goes shrieking off into the night. Are there any other current justices old enough to think about retiring?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (Ejm1K)

55 I wish one of these idiots would just look at the assholes who brought this lawsuit and say
"You gotta be fucking kidding me.. do you even understand what powers the president has? Constitution! Motherfuckers, do you even? Get the fuck outta here! And tell those stupid fucks that ruled in your favor before to read the constitution.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (myjNJ)

56 19 Build the dang wall!
Posted by: zombie John McStain at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (/FMDH)
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So much this.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (xptlg)

57

So DACA is probably going to be unconstitutional?

All those DACA kids out in the cold, no citizenry?

You know, just maybe a body of oh, I guess, maybe 535 people, could come together and create a complete system of logical laws and procedures to thoughtfully control immigration? To the benefit of both American citizens AND the millions of immigrants that want to do work here?


No, I am dreaming wild, crazy dreams again. Gonna ask JackStraw for a bong hit or two. Maybe that will stop these crazy dreams.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:29 PM (sy5kK)

58 52 >>RBG and Sotomayor, though, are insane progtards and will never contribute to a major Trump victory.

From reports I've heard Sotomayer was complaing about the disruption this would cause and not arguing the law.

This is the famous Wise Latina compassion and empathy Obama told us about.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

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This lady is one of Obama's biggest legacies, huh?

I swear, any history of the Obama administration that's remotely accurate is going to be savage regarding that man's failures.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:29 PM (q80AH)

59 ALL of the Judiciary is too safe in their sinecure.

We need to put a stop to lifetime appointments.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (AIGhm)

60 Obama's DACA was an Executve 'ACTION' not an Order. even less weight than an Order.

Posted by: DBCooper at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (ynKzW)

61 53: On our patience and on every taxpayer. So: legal.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (U7k5w)

62 The Hawaiian judge ruled under the precedent of The Law vs. GFY, and we know which side he and lefties will always choose.

Posted by: TheHoser at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (IDjUx)

63 SCOTUS allowed sandy hook lawsuits to proceed even though the law states clearly they cannot. So much for a conservative court. Even when we win we end up losing.

This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it. What scotus did today was disastrous.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (wneaL)
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The ruling is insane. What a damn nightmare for the gun industry.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (wiXsO)

64 Well, I'm heartened to hear that our Supreme Court might rule in favor of following the fucking law.

Why even bother to do that anymore? The Progs certainly don't care about the rule of law, why should we?

I'd like to see PDT start signing EO's at the rate of one per day or so to do things like end the idiotic idea of "anchor babies" and birthright citienship, close the Mexican border, and make Big Tech follow the Constitution to the letter (which means no more of their censorship of conservatives). Then outlaw sanctuary cities and begin arresting the mayors and/or city councils that pass those laws in opposition to the Constitution.


Now, what to do on Saturday? Outlaw "gun-free" zones. Sunday? Make American Civics a mandatory class (where the Founders writings are studied studiously) everywhere from K-kollidge.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (HaL55)

65 Seriously, if the Court gives Trump (our country) the win, and deportations don't immediately begin, it will be a major fuck you.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (P0nip)

66 38
Justice Ginsberg asked of the Defendant Counsel, "What about your GAINZ, Bro? Do you even lift?"
+++LOL. These jokes still crack me up. I am simple that way.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (xlprn)

67 Adam Schiff has preemptively constrained what words Republicans may use. If, for example, they say the words "Eric Ciaramella", the Ethics Committee will take a break from examining Ilhan Omar's creative filings to smack yo' ass.

Not fucking kidding, Schiff is telling people not to say the words he himself published just a couple days ago and now pretends away.


https://tinyurl.com/yfpfl94s

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (NVYyb)

68 >>RBG and Sotomayor, though, are insane progtards and will never contribute to a major Trump victory.

From reports I've heard Sotomayer was complaing about the disruption this would cause and not arguing the law.

This is the famous Wise Latina compassion and empathy Obama told us about.

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Sotomayer is not very smart, and RGB is too old to play the long game and just wants the affirmation of going against Trump.

Kagan will use this to bring Roberts to her side on something. Plus, she see's the benefit of expanded executive power.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (sX1BW)

69 This lady is one of Obama's biggest legacies, huh?


That's why she has the diabetes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (QQ+il)

70 This is a banana

Posted by: CNN at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (FZYNt)

71 Well of course this means Trump should be impeached ... for (spins wheel) appointing justices to the Supreme Court

It's clearly an abuse of power to appoint only judges who share his judicial philosophy

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (k81AA)

72 68
Sotomayer is not very smart,
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (sX1BW)

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But have you seen her credentials, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (q80AH)

73 >>The ruling is insane. What a damn nightmare for the gun industry.


Now do alcohol.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (AIGhm)

74 No more immigration. Deport the motherfuckers now.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (P0nip)

75 Based on the day's oral arguments and questions from the justices, court watchers expect the Supreme Court to uphold Trump's order and end the injunction.

Yeah, and >70% expected SCOTUS to dropkick O-care. Justice Roberts will call it a tax or something and let the Orange Man Bad precedent become enshrined as precedent nationwide.

Posted by: physics geek at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (huQJB)

76

I'm curious just how involved Ruthie was with the arguments. Or any talking at all. Or even eyes blinking. Once for 'YES", twice for "NO".

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (sy5kK)

77 I guess the Left is really going to have to start calling Roberts all sort of names if they expect him to pull their fat out of the fire this time!

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (xmKbk)

78 But what the heck, let's just change the millennial age definition of "marriage"
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (sX1BW)
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Are we still allowed to disagree with SC decisions? I thought that once they shine rainbow colors on the White House, all arguments must cease.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (xptlg)

79 This is a huge black eye for Trump.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (Pzzpr)

It's a devastating self-own for the Supreme Court. The President will correctly ask why the hell we need judges if gun makers are held to a standard no other company could meet.

It makes my idea of Trump as the new Caesar gain a lot of momentum.

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (V+8Zu)

80 I smell Gelfling!!

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (QQ+il)

81 Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (P0nip)

And how will that effect your vote for President in 2020? Do tell.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (WI7YS)

82 I like listening to the moonbats wail over SCOTUS nominations, but honestly, SCOTUS doesn't mean fuckall anymore beyond determining which specific things aging lefties will piss and moan about a generation or two from now.

We are beyond the rule of law and heading into a contest the left will lose spectacularly.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (67XdO)

83 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

84 Meanwhile, Mark Sanford is dropping out of the presidential race in order to spend more quality time with his mistress.

Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (0jZvB)

85 Let the sandy hook lawsuits wind their way through the courts. They will hit trump Jrs Supreme Court in 2026 where the lone dissenter will be RBG.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (UB/j7)

86 The leftist justices were injecting the feelz into a case brought under law. That has no place in the judiciary at all. That is something the legislative and maybe the executive can indulge in, but not the judiciary. Especially at that level.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (GvT9q)

87 >>I smell Gelfling!!
Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (QQ+il)


One of the Top 3 running gags at this dump.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (AIGhm)

88 I will believe their decision when the vote is released. I trust a vast majority of my government NOT ONE BIT.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)

89 65: We're not even deporting the ones with deportation orders, just be happy Cocaine Mitch hasn't passed a blanket amnesty.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (U7k5w)

90 I swear, any history of the Obama administration that's remotely accurate is going to be savage regarding that man's failures.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Everything the man touched turned into a superfund site - Iran, Libya, Cash for Clunkers, DACA, etc, etc, etc

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (32YRo)

91 Anybody have a sense of how long it'll be before they issue a decision?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher


#TwoWeeks

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (s2OJe)

92 6 SCROTUS has ruled in favor of gun grabbers today as well.

This.Is.Not.Winning.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (Pzzpr)

This scares the bejesus out of me.

If you've had your eye on a gun - go get it. Today. Usually I'm not a panic buyer but the SC just gave a greenlight to anyone who has been shot to be able to file a lawsuit against the firearm manufacturer.

This is going to be catastrophic IMO.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (9V81o)

93 SCOTUS is really just now a second executive branch that's elected through a stupid parliamentary process anyway.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (KUaJL)

94 The ruling is insane. What a damn nightmare for the gun industry.





Now do alcohol.


Or cars and trucks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (HaL55)

95 I beat up a news producer and my mom gave me $5.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (pB6Gt)

96 They will hit trump Jrs Supreme Court in 2026 where the lone dissenter will be RBG.

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Are you thinking RBG will be animatronic at that point?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM (NVYyb)

97 Love to hear Clarence Thomas say:
"I hear the Sinaloa Cartel is hiring."

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

98 >>Now do alcohol.

>>Or cars and trucks.


Legal Weed / Medical Marijuana

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM (AIGhm)

99 If Nancy is smart she will but a deal with Trump on border security and changes to visa lottery and chain migration plus wall funding for some sort of DACA compromise.

We'll see how smart she really is.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)

100 SCROTUS has ruled in favor of gun grabbers today as well.


Details? Not seeing anything mentioned on SCOTUSblog but that might not mean anything.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (qc+VF)

101 25. Go to SCOTUS blog and read for yourself what the court did regarding the Sandy Hook lawsuit. The Sandy Hook families now have to prove that Remingtons advertising caused Adam Lanza to flip out steal his mothers gun shoot her then walk into Sandy Hook and open fire.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (96m0f)

102 99 If Nancy is smart she will but a deal with Trump on border security and changes to visa lottery and chain migration plus wall funding for some sort of DACA compromise.

We'll see how smart she really is.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)

She's not in control of her caucus any longer.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (RD7QR)

103 I'm convinced that most court decisions are made using the "making it up as I go along because OrangeManBad" rule of law.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (al6UK)

104 Sotomayer is not very smart,
Posted by: SH

Oh c'mon.

I sent her a gift card for Krispy Kreme.

Posted by: Miklos, a kindly sort at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (QzkSJ)

105 Adam Schiff has preemptively constrained what words Republicans may use. If, for example, they say the words "Eric Ciaramella", the Ethics Committee will take a break from examining Ilhan Omar's creative filings to smack yo' ass.

This proves that he's the whistleblower, right? Now they can say they need him to testify because Schiff released his name.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)

106 Expansive executive orders from liberal presidents: No arguments.

Rescinding those orders by sane/moderate/conservative presidents: Unspeakably unconstitutional.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (wGbBR)

107 When will they rule on this?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (bDqIh)

108 She's not in control of her caucus any longer.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (RD7QR)


For a fleeting moment I read that as caca, which is also true.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (aS1PU)

109 81 Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (P0nip)

And how will that effect your vote for President in 2020? Do tell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (WI7YS)

It won't but our country will never recover. The demographic change will be irreversible. It's not about voting for Trump, but keeping our country.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (P0nip)

110 Any SC Justice not upholding the President's right to rescind a prior Executive Order should themselves be impeached.

There is no legal basis to give a President's Executive action the force of legislation. That, and any vote to the contrary is a clear assault on the Constitution itself (separation of powers).

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (koNhm)

111 20 I very much doubt that the Justices could even hear the argument over the noise from Ginsberg's Iron Lung.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (AIGhm)

Man that was funny g.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'it's an eating disorder!' at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (lmBz3)

112 Prager yesterday was talking polling shows women are more likely to be for curtailing free speech, it seems mostly so as not to offend or hurt someone's feelings.
Personally I would throw every one of those mother's sons out of the country so fast your head would spin.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (ZCEU2)

113 Someone was freaking out over Trump's tweet on this, where he said he'd make a deal with them Dems once the court ruled in his favor.

How many times do we have to calm the excitable that this is another of Trump's offers they have to refuse?

I mean, no matter what the deal is, some illegals are getting the boot.
And even one is 100% unacceptable to the Dem base.

So, once again, Trump gets to claim the middle ground without moving an inch.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (k81AA)

114 Gun stocks all down sharply on scotus news.

Fucking roberts does it again

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (wneaL)

115 >>She's not in control of her caucus any longer.

I bet she gets a bit of her control back with this impeachment farce blows up in Schiff's face.

Besides, she will only need a fraction of her caucus. Republicans will contribute a lot of votes on this.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (ZLI7S)

116 LNSSEOTJY, kids.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (ejd/p)

IG Report "Expected" Before Thanksgiving, Supposedly Will Contain At Least Two Criminal Referrals, One for... James Comey?

This is originally from Sara Carter, who I don't know is very reliable, but it's something.

We've been down this road before -- repeatedly -- so we'll take this latest report with a large grain of salt.

Anyway, Carter's sources say the report will be damning and is "alleged to contain several criminal referrals on former FBI officials. The report will apparently have at least two criminal referrals, said two sources, with knowledge. One of those criminal referrals is expected to be [former FBI Director James] Comey. However, the Inspector General’s office has not been providing comments on the report."

Carter also claims:

The email chain between FBI investigators in the Russia probe and then-FBI Director James Comey. Those emails also include discussions with lawyers in the DOJ's national security division. As previously reported, the email chains will contain information that prove the FBI knew prior to obtaining a warrant to spy on Page that former British spy Christopher Steele's information in his infamous dossier on Trump could not be proven.

Horowitz's report is also going to contain evidence that the FBI handled Hillary Clinton’s campaign differently than that of President Trump’s campaign. It will reveal that she had received a detailed debriefing from the FBI on foreign attempts to make contact with her campaign. It will reveal the deep bias and animus those FBI officials had toward the Trump campaign.

Grassley's raising alarm bells about the DOJ blocking the report from final publication:



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1 #twoweeks

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 02:09 PM (X/Pw5)

2 Two criminal referrals seems light.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (sX1BW)

3 Top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (Ejm1K)

4 I want to believe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (QQ+il)

5 Several criminal referrals == Two criminal referrals?

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (LINkS)

6 No mention of Milsurp? That is the really damning one to me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (QQ+il)

7 Sara Carter is reliably hot

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (CqE5x)

8 Better be more than two referrals.

Posted by: abbynormal at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (I849g)

9 >>Anyway, Carter's sources say the report will be damning and is "alleged to contain several criminal referrals on former FBI officials. The report will apparently have at least two criminal referrals, said two sources, with knowledge

Several is not a synonym for 2.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (ZLI7S)

10 Right.

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (7LI+H)

11 Two?

Are you fucking kidding me?


TWO?

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (AIGhm)

12 Three weeks!

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (GXoKW)

13 alleged to contain several criminal referrals on former FBI officials. The report will apparently have at least two criminal referrals

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Is it several or two?

I'm still leaning toward none, because I don't expect this report to ever come out.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (sX1BW)

14 Then again, how could it NOT contain criminal referrals?

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (CDGwz)

15 I won't get my hopes up.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (prSvo)

16 The war will be over before Christmas.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (O+iVW)

17 No matter what the report says, the media will just say that Trump is siccing the government on his political enemies.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (CqE5x)

18 Sara Carter is a One.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (ufFY8)

19 Then again, how could it NOT contain criminal referrals?

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (CDGwz)

no intent

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (X/Pw5)

20 DOJ: "We decline to prosecute. Next."

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (G0vdT)

21 Why is Sara Carter not dependable?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (nRWPy)

22 Personally I think both sides are trying to play a waiting game.

The IG report is being held back to counter whatever is attempted by the dems on impeachment.

The only reason I get this sense is the things that Trump has thrown out during pressers, and for the most part it makes sense.

I don't know that this is the best strategy unless it's over the top - because as we know the liberal media will ignore it and only focus on the dems messaging - which will be about impeachment.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (//Byp)

23 Then again, how could it NOT contain criminal referrals?

Because shut up.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (prSvo)

24 Poop in one hand and see which fills first.

Do I want this to be true? Sure.

Do I expect it to be true? Don't make me laugh. We'll be lucky if the report is out before Christmas, let alone has any criminal referrals for ANYONE.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (KZzsI)

25 Top 20?

Posted by: Thanatopsis at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (vXlpj)

26 Yeah, its coming. How long have we been saying that?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (yRAFu)

27 I guess the implication is that there were several illegalities but no intent, better training etc.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (QQ+il)

28 Sara Carter is reliably hot

Indeed. She reminds me of Dana Loesch.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (wtvvX)

29 Well, we'll see.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (hLRSq)

30 It will reveal the deep bias and animus those FBI officials had toward the Trump campaign.

--------------

It doesn't sound like it will reveal much at all.

This does not give me any kind of hope.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (sX1BW)

31 I think this IG report is still fairly narrow in terms of everything else, so maybe 2 is about right. I dunno.

Posted by: Reality Man at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (//Byp)

32 >>Why is Sara Carter not dependable?


Sometimes, when she is on TV, they cut to a commercial before ace can reach fulfillment.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (AIGhm)

33 Two criminal referrals seems light.

Jealous. All my evidence was planted.

Posted by: Bob "Bob" Mueller at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (1+J19)

34 21 Why is Sara Carter not dependable?
------------------
Well, she's not in a nursing home is she?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (yRAFu)

35 What happened to that other report that no one knew about that was supposed to be released last week?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (CQ3Qb)

36
I'd really love to see James Cummy frogmarched in cuffs out of his house at 3am, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (kw0bd)

37 James Comey and Peter Strzock are my hopes.

Posted by: Reality Man at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (//Byp)

38 Atlantic article: To avoid civil war Republican must learn to accept electoral defeat. And coups. Mostly coups.

Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (MxEKc)

39 28
Sara Carter is reliably hot

Indeed. She reminds me of Dana Loesch.


Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (wtvvX)

I would tell one of them of the waters of my home world, and feed super beets to the other one.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 12, 2019 02:15 PM (ufFY8)

40 Why is Sara Carter not dependable?
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (nRWPy)

She's dependable if you want a boner.

On reporting, meh.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:15 PM (CqE5x)

41 Are we still talking about poles?

Posted by: Petey Buttgag at November 12, 2019 02:15 PM (flINI)

42
Our Thanksgiving turkey will resurrect and sing all roles in "Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg", too, right around then.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:15 PM (wy4/l)

43
I have my doubts that it won't be punted again. They've been doing this dance for a long while now.

But if there's any actual intention to release this thing, Thanksgiving would be a sensible time - very, very few Americans pay attention to anything during Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 02:16 PM (AzW6q)

44 Better be more than two referrals.
Posted by: abbynormal


Twenty times more than two. For a start.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 02:16 PM (s2OJe)

45 Sara Carter is dependably out-shouted by Hannity.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:16 PM (CqE5x)

46 Eh, most of the upper layer of management at DoJ and FBI should be indicted but I would take Comey.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:16 PM (RD7QR)

47 So, IG report for Thanksgiving.

Impeachment for Christmas.

Holidaze are getting a bit weird.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (NgKpN)

48 ChuckGrassley
@ChuckGrassley
19m
If FISA Inspector General Horowitz report doesn't come out next week when they said it would then I will be very disappointed & left to wonder WHAT GAME IS THIS?? Is someone at the FBI or DOJ tying IGs hands??

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (wiXsO)

49 Have seen another source say there will be 2019 indictments but no further info.

Posted by: teej at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (9WcJw)

50 >>Why is Sara Carter not dependable?


Her Vespa has a very sensitive accelerator.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (AIGhm)

51
Anything short of frog marches, tumbrels and pikes will be unacceptable.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (wy4/l)

52 Didn't the last IG report decades ago , or it seems, have a criminal referral for McCabe?

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (Q5ALd)

53 yawn....

another nothing burger: we are no longer a nation of laws. the vlasti are immune, and the narod are destroyed for the smallest infraction.

it's all just gas lighting, 24/7/365 from here on out, at least until the civil war goes hot.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (D75ha)

54 James Comey and Peter Strzock are my hopes.
Posted by: Reality Man



Two nickel bag dealers.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (s2OJe)

55 An early Christmas gift? Criminal charges brought against Comey? Dare we dream? All the Whos in Whoville will sing and rejoice.

Posted by: Nonapod at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (CLP9I)

56 Do they pay for referrals?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (Vy7tf)

57 DOJ: "Comey? Pfft, we have bigger fish to fry...like Aunt Becky."

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (G0vdT)

58 Sara can be whatever she wants when she wears that low cut black dress that accentuates the funbags.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (mF8rI)

59 Didn't the last IG report decades ago , or it seems, have a criminal referral for McCabe?

Didn't really matter what it had. It was ignored. The content was incredibly damning but all anyone paid attention to was the "executive summary" and opinion piece at the end.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (KZzsI)

60 48 redridinghood

I agree w Chuck. I wonder if Wray is having a fit?

Posted by: Ever at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (ZZDMQ)

61 I'm no longer expecting administrative justice, I am expecting citizen justice.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (ARrEm)

62 I believe "criminal indictments" like I believe "Brexit."

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (vkS2Z)

63 They'll decline to press charges.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (LQtHg)

64 Will Comey call Hillary to testify as a character witness?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (yRAFu)

65 Didn't the last IG report decades ago , or it seems, have a criminal referral for McCabe?

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (Q5ALd)

---
there was no criminal intent, and no prosecutor would have pursued it.

(unless it was you or me, of course: we'd already have been in prison for years, with many more years to go)

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (D75ha)

66 48
ChuckGrassley

@ChuckGrassley

19m

If FISA Inspector General Horowitz report doesn't come out next week
when they said it would then I will be very disappointed left to
wonder WHAT GAME IS THIS?? Is someone at the FBI or DOJ tying IGs
hands??



Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (wiXsO)
Or an attempt to foster hope in those who still believe in the rule of law.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (N39Ws)

67 So the earlier prediction of a report dump on Wednesday the 26th at 5pm may be spot-on

And it will be declared old news and promptly shoved down the memory hole by the following Monday

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (DU2N9)

68 Eh, most of the upper layer of management at DoJ and FBI should be indicted but I would take Comey.

-------------

You'll have to take a low level staffer who filled out a form incorrectly.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (sX1BW)

69 61 I'm no longer expecting administrative justice, I am expecting citizen justice.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (ARrEm)

It's just quibbling over brand names, I'm good with either.

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (V+8Zu)

70 What's happening w/McCabe?

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (X/Pw5)

71 SkyNet Future Headlines:

IG report expected before Christmas

IG report expected after New Year

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (r+sAi)

72 You want 20 referrals
You expect 10 referrals
You get what you get and like it!

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 02:20 PM (Q5ALd)

73 38 Atlantic article: To avoid civil war Republican must learn to accept electoral defeat. And coups. Mostly coups.
Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (MxEKc)


The Atlantic must learn to accept their stupidity, and lick my hairy scrotum. Mostly lick my hairy scrotum.

(Oh, and on the subject of scrotums, there are bikini pictures of Sara Carter out there and she is decidedly MILFy.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

74 Or an attempt to foster hope in those who still believe in the rule of law.


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (N39Ws)

----
who is that sucker? i've got a bridge i need to sell.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2019 02:20 PM (D75ha)

75 61
I'm no longer expecting administrative justice, I am expecting citizen justice.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (ARrEm)

"I expect you to die, Mr. Bond."

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at November 12, 2019 02:20 PM (ufFY8)

76 You want mass indictments. You'll settle for James Comey. You'll get nothing.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 02:20 PM (prSvo)

77 47 So, IG report for Thanksgiving.

Impeachment for Christmas.

Holidaze are getting a bit weird.


Obamacare passes Senate on Christmas eve. Passes House on Good Friday as I recall.

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 02:21 PM (XTiHL)

78 Chuck Grassley sounds like a senior citizen at a diner angry that his "early bird special" is late....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:21 PM (CqE5x)

79 Remember, Horowitz is a Democrat, and Obama's appointee. Do not expect him to make more than the minimum referrals. Durham is not bound by this, and as long as he has all the source information he can make up his own mind.

Posted by: cpurick at November 12, 2019 02:21 PM (7NboP)

80 What's happening w/McCabe?

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (X/Pw5)

---
he's enjoying the retirements us suckers are funding.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2019 02:21 PM (D75ha)

81 The Conservative Case for Abandoning Equal Application of Law...

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:21 PM (AIGhm)

82
Sara Carter is reliable and dependable.

She reliably and dependably triggers a boner.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (f1Vqw)

83 Sara Carter....another brunette.




Posted by: dananjcon at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (u6xw0)

84 ...and no one will go to jail for any of this.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (E+OcO)

85 Do not expect him to make more than the minimum referrals.

-----------

So none?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (sX1BW)

86 And Eric CIAmarella did not kill Jeffrey Epstein.

Probably.

Maybe.

Possibly.

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (NiXyF)

87

But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Posted by: Lord Comey at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (2Mnv1)

88 So, IG report for Thanksgiving.

Impeachment for Christmas.

Holidaze are getting a bit weird.


Will it be "Horowitzmas" for Trump
or
"Schiffmas" for Democrats?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (CqE5x)

89 >>Remember, Horowitz is a Democrat, and Obama's appointee.

Also remember, he spent 8 years fighting Obama.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (ZLI7S)

90 This only ends when a couple hundred thousand people go to DC, surround the capital, and demand that our laws be followed.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (ARrEm)

91 88 So, IG report for Thanksgiving.

Impeachment for Christmas.

Holidaze are getting a bit weird.


Will it be "Horowitzmas" for Trump
or
"Schiffmas" for Democrats?
Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (CqE5x)

How the Schiff stole Christmas?

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (NgKpN)

92 We need an IG report on why the IG report is taking so damn long.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (sWM8x)

93 more than #twoweeks now?any smellier

That dead rat can't be

Posted by: dead rat in a cage at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (vqIkG)

94 Yeah, its coming. How long have we been saying that?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM


Don't ask me.

Posted by: Steiner at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (2vUDW)

95 Has St Comey moved to New Zealand yet?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (Uu+Jp)

96 The FBI (special handling division) ran an op against Trump ... maybe it started with the DNC, maybe not ... but the people involved are basically one and the same subdivision that crosses all lines.

hang em high

they also ran the op to cover up massive Billary frauds for decades, hang em twice.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (Cus5s)

97 Will it be "Horowitzmas" for Trump

or

"Schiffmas" for Democrats?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (CqE5x)
Horowinnaukah?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (ufFY8)

98 My sources are telling me there will be several referrals.

Well at least two.

Possibly none.

I have no sources and am just repeating things I read elsewhere.

Back to you Bob.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (sX1BW)

99 Durham Will Come.

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (NiXyF)

100 speaking of Thanksgiving are there any articles about the best way an uncle can repeatedly slam his nephew's head against the table while shouting OK MILLENNIAL when he starts his shit?

Posted by: x at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (nFwvY)

101 90: you misspelled millions.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (mF8rI)

102
Y'know, any impeding of Woods Druid Comey around the Winter Solstice will be interpreted as bigoted acts.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (wy4/l)

103 They're hell bent against white male privilege. But when they want to coup and/or impeach the OrangeManBad who do they lean on to get the job done?

White males.

Posted by: torabora at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (Y274z)

104 This only ends when a couple hundred thousand people go to DC, surround the capital, and demand that our laws be followed.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (ARrEm)

Two black fellas in a van put DC on lockdown. Can White America really not meet that standard?

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (V+8Zu)

105
Proof of Sara's reliability and dependability:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y46hy73b

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (f1Vqw)

106 Posted by: Lord Comey at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (2Mnv1)

Yes, indeedy, Comey sure sounds like the forgiving type to me/sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (WI7YS)

107 when DOJ, et al get done with the redactions and editing, the only criminal referrals will be for PDJT and close family members...


Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (D75ha)

108 Surprise!

Posted by: Matt Lauer at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (Y274z)

109 >>Remember, Horowitz is a Democrat, and Obama's appointee.

Also remember, he spent 8 years fighting Obama.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (ZLI7S)

--------------

I really want this to work out for Jack. Sure the country would benefit too. But Jack has been a believer from the get go. I hope he gets to say a big I told you so to the rest of us. Those are always fun.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (sX1BW)

110 Will it be "Horowitzmas" for Trump

or

"Schiffmas" for Democrats?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (CqE5x)
Horowinnaukah?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (ufFY


Horowitzgiving?

The run-up to Durhammas?

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (NiXyF)

111 78
Chuck Grassley sounds like a senior citizen at a diner angry that his "early bird special" is late....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 02:21 PM (CqE5x)
All those years of hearings that Grassley presided over and not one thing accomplished besides creating soundbites. Time to step away from the table Chuck. You had your chance and failed. Into the dustbin of history you go.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (N39Ws)

112 Durham Will Come.


He's not even breathing hard yet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (QQ+il)

113 >>Proof of Sara's reliability and dependability:


Is that what she calls them?

Which one is Reliable and which one is Dependable?

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (AIGhm)

114 The highly biased report coming from Trumps partisan IG will be released at 5pm on the deepest of news black holes.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (UB/j7)

115 Heil Stephen Miller!

Posted by: George Lincoln Trump at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (j5f5f)

116 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM

It's a picture of her with her black lowcut dress and "funbags", eh? If so, I'm not clicking on it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 02:26 PM (WI7YS)

117 Lots of kids tried the "dog ate my homework" gambit, but I made it WORK, man.

Posted by: Michael Horowitz at November 12, 2019 02:26 PM (sWM8x)

118 Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 02:26 PM (Q5ALd)

119 98 My sources are telling me there will be several referrals.

Well at least two.

Possibly none.

I have no sources and am just repeating things I read elsewhere.

Back to you Bob.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (sX1BW)

Its a bold strategy Cotton, lets see if it works for them.

Posted by: ESPN 69, The WokeO at November 12, 2019 02:26 PM (NgKpN)

120 >>Proof of Sara's reliability and dependability:


Is that what she calls them?

Which one is Reliable and which one is Dependable?

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So, only 2 sources?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (sX1BW)

121 -
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Durham Will Come.


Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM

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Bull.

Posted by: had to say it at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (pMGkg)

122 I thought Sara Carter's reporting on this was pretty solid Am I wrong about that? The post seems to take a shot at her credibility. What did I miss ?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (MIsTo)

123 49
Have seen another source say there will be 2019 indictments but no further info.

Posted by: teej at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (9WcJw)

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That many? Don't tease me, bro!


Oh, you meant the year 2019 ... nevermind.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (LINkS)

124 really want this to work out for Jack. Sure the country would benefit too. But Jack has been a believer from the get go. I hope he gets to say a big I told you so to the rest of us. Those are always fun.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (sX1BW)

I'd gladly eat crow for dinner even if it's served cold at 3 am .

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (Q5ALd)

125 >> t's a picture of her with her black lowcut dress and "funbags", eh? If so, I'm not clicking on it.

It's her in a bikini at the beach. I did not that lowcut dress photo existed. I'll have to search....brb

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (f1Vqw)

126 Its a bold strategy Cotton, lets see if it works for them.
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Where does this phrase come from? It seems familiar, but I can't place it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (3Z6pZ)

127 If true, Thanksgiving holidays with the family will be lit af.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (P0nip)

128 This IG process is just all very bizarre to me.


It seems the IGs role is to draw things out as long as you can, give the wolves a good look at the floor plans of the hen house and then fart out some report that then gets subsumed into the ether.


Unless you're out to get the President then the IG works hand in glove with the Deep State wolves.


We shall see how this all plays out.


I'm not hopeful.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (JLrCS)

129 114 The highly biased report coming from Trumps partisan IG will be released at 5pm on the deepest of news black holes.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (UB/j7)

Weds at 5 PM, just before Thanksgiving.

Its almost like staff is working against the President.

But we've been assured by Kelly that never really happened.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (NgKpN)

130 109 >>Remember, Horowitz is a Democrat, and Obama's appointee.

Also remember, he spent 8 years fighting Obama.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:22 PM (ZLI7S)

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I really want this to work out for Jack. Sure the country would benefit too. But Jack has been a believer from the get go. I hope he gets to say a big I told you so to the rest of us. Those are always fun.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (sX1BW)

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I'm sure he's got the mother of all blunts ready.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (q80AH)

131 "AT LEAST two criminal referrals"

"Several...." is more than two.

So it's anywhere from 2 - 11?

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (cF8AT)

132 124 really want this to work out for Jack. Sure the country would benefit too. But Jack has been a believer from the get go. I hope he gets to say a big I told you so to the rest of us. Those are always fun.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (sX1BW)

Yeah, if it all pans out for the good guys, JackStraw is owed about 2,987 drinks.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (nNEcr)

133 I thought Sara Carter's reporting on this was pretty solid Am I wrong about that? The post seems to take a shot at her credibility. What did I miss ?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (MIsTo)

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People are afraid to believe.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (al6UK)

134
126 Its a bold strategy Cotton, lets see if it works for them.
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Where does this phrase come from? It seems familiar, but I can't place it.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (3Z6pZ)


Dodgeball - An Underdog Story

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (wy4/l)

135 Yeah, if it all pans out for the good guys, JackStraw is owed about 2,987 drinks.

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Pick a number between 2 and several.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (sX1BW)

136 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (f1Vqw)

Good luck.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (WI7YS)

137
really want this to work out for Jack. Sure the country would benefit too. But Jack has been a believer from the get go. I hope he gets to say a big I told you so to the rest of us. Those are always fun.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:25 PM (sX1BW)

I'd gladly eat crow for dinner even if it's served cold at 3 am .
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (Q5ALd)

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Same.

But the Deep State's attitude toward the electorate always reminds me of this excellent scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuckTkE7T4

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 02:30 PM (AzW6q)

138 from the sidebar:

This new NBC Zorro series, will it feature a slender, nice looking, petite young gal who punches and kicks and sword fights much larger guys? Often armed? and often multiples at a time?

Oh, good. I've never seen this Punchy-Kicky girl character before. This is new. Empowered! Brave!

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 02:30 PM (xptlg)

139 My favorite cartoon character is Wimpy, because you just know he never repaid shit on Tuesday.

Posted by: Michael Horowitz at November 12, 2019 02:30 PM (sWM8x)

140 People are afraid to believe.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (al6UK)

I Want To Believe

Posted by: Agent Mulder's Poster at November 12, 2019 02:30 PM (ufFY8)

141 Dodgeball - An Underdog Story
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (wy4/l)
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Ah. Thanks!

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 12, 2019 02:30 PM (3Z6pZ)

142
Sorry: Dodgeball - A True Underdog Story

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:31 PM (wy4/l)

143 Another IG report where nothing happens.

Posted by: WOPR at November 12, 2019 02:31 PM (J70i0)

144 61
I'm no longer expecting administrative justice, I am expecting citizen justice.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 02:18 PM (ARrEm)

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Those who make Criminal Justice impossible will make Vigilante Justice inevitable.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 02:31 PM (LINkS)

145 Where does this phrase come from? It seems familiar, but I can't place it.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 12, 2019 02:28 PM (3Z6pZ)

Dodgeball - An Underdog Story
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:29 PM (wy4/l)
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That's great go ahead make your jokes mister...jokey...joke maker!

Posted by: White Goodman at November 12, 2019 02:31 PM (BDZWU)

146 Perp walks or it never happened.

Posted by: Constantine XI at November 12, 2019 02:31 PM (yiAMj)

147 How many elections have passed that the Dems prevailed since this coup started and the evidence was obvious? Like I said I'll gladly eat crow but irreversible damage has already been done.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 02:32 PM (Q5ALd)

148 On the first day of Durhammas, the DA gave to me,
Indictments of Brenner and Comey.

On the second day of Durhammas, the DA gave to me,
Strozk in the dock,
And indictments of Brenner and Comey.

On the third day of Durhammas, the DA gave to me,
Perp-walking Lisa,
Strozk in the dock,
And indictments of Brenner and Comey.

On the fourth day of Durhammas, the DA gave to me,
Mifsud's depositions,
Perp-walking Lisa,
Strozk in teh dock,
And indictments of Brenner and Comey.

On the fifth day of Durhammas, the DA gave to me,
Treason-charged Obama!
Mifsud's depositions,
Perp-walking Lisa
Strozk in the dock,
And indictments of Brenner and Comey.

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:33 PM (NiXyF)

149 We shall see. Maybe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:33 PM (Pu/Kw)

150 So, what has Comey tweeted recently?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:34 PM (q80AH)

151 T'was the night before Horowitzmas
And all through the house
Not a creature was stirring
Not even a mouse.
All the indictments were served
To the perps with care
In the hopes that St. Horowitz
Would soon be there.



(Well, I can dream.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:34 PM (RD7QR)

152 http://www.bodymeasurements.org/sara-carter/

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 02:34 PM (P0nip)

153 Gosh, no Comey tweets since the 6th.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:34 PM (q80AH)

154 I have no sources and am just repeating things I read elsewhere.

Back to you Bob.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:23 PM (sX1BW)

Pshaw! Repeating what other people have said is nothing! I take my own desolate opinion, coat it well with my personal existential despair, let it bake in the oven of despond, and then pronounce it truth throughout the land!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:35 PM (hLRSq)

155 This is new. Empowered! Brave!
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore
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Persistent!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:35 PM (Pu/Kw)

156 Out of curiosity, what is the generally accepted standard for several?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:36 PM (sX1BW)

157 I believe Sara's father was a Marine and she did great work covering AFG. He's husband is an Army Vet who was WIA in AFG (blinded). They are solid people.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 02:36 PM (MIsTo)

158 If there are ever any indictment issued, Dems are making sure that prosecuting them will be very dangerous for anybody involved, including family. There will be howling leftist mobs all over Washington on orders from the DNC.

Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2019 02:36 PM (MxEKc)

159 Pshaw! Repeating what other people have said is nothing! I take my own desolate opinion, coat it well with my personal existential despair, let it bake in the oven of despond, and then pronounce it truth throughout the land!
Posted by: Mikey NTH
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Ah. After my lunch of gravel and bile, I find this refreshing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:36 PM (Pu/Kw)

160 Out of curiosity, what is the generally accepted standard for several?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:36 PM (sX1BW)


One
A couple
A few
Several
Dozens
Hundreds
Thousands
...

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 02:37 PM (aS1PU)

161 156 Out of curiosity, what is the generally accepted standard for several?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:36 PM (sX1BW)

3 to 5, maybe up to 7.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 02:37 PM (O+iVW)

162 Out of curiosity, what is the generally accepted standard for several?

Posted by: SH
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'Some'...more than one, say, two.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:37 PM (Pu/Kw)

163 At the moment the Bengals lead the Redskins for the first round draft pick by having zero wins. Does anyone think the Bengals can win a game. Conversely, does anyone think the Redskins will win more than one game. This is heavy on my mind.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (yRAFu)

164 I wanna see JackStraw huffing on a huge doober to celebrate.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (MIsTo)

165 There are actually several possible release dates for my report. Several.

Posted by: Michael Horowitz at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (sWM8x)

166 Bullshit until it happens.

Posted by: FWIW at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (D+5jX)

167 Once this comes out - and the democrat media "there is no there, there"... is played out.

The next thing they will say is "This was all investigated, and nothing was found".

Be ready for it... regardless of what it said.

Posted by: Reality Man at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (//Byp)

168 Carter's report has little to do with the timing of the IG release, and everything to do with getting the DS players to commit own goals.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (tFdF9)

169 Also, the DOJ has announced it will be open season on hobos in the days after Thanksgiving, with no limit on fuzzies.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (NVYyb)

170 A = one
A couple = two
Several = three or four
Some = five and over.


At least that's what I was taught as a yoot, but that was when dinosaurs ruled the earth.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (RD7QR)

171 Gosh, no Comey tweets since the 6th.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He's been re-reading his copy of, 'The Devil Quotes Scripture'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Pu/Kw)

172 According to my dad, several is more than 3.
Because someone said he had several kids and he corrected them saying no we just have the 3.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (myjNJ)

173 Posted by: FWIW at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (D+5jX)

There's somethin' happenin' here
What it is ain't exactly clear...

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (aS1PU)

174 >>Yeah, if it all pans out for the good guys, JackStraw is owed about 2,987 drinks.

Nah. We will all celebrate. Well maybe not everyone.

I really do understand the skepticism, it's not like I haven't lived through the same thing everyone else has, I just think we are in a much different time with a much different president and a much different AG.

Trump and Barr are every bit as aware of what's going on and what the implications are as we are. Hell, Trump is the one they have been trying to destroy personally for the last 3+ years.

If they can make cases against people they will.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (ZLI7S)

175 I have faith in JS's faith. I hope beyond hope he is right.

Posted by: Bosk at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (9m9TT)

176 How come only TWO REFERRALS?

Because of the Comey Intent Doctrine.

That is correct. Comey is priviledged to create judicial doctrine.

Posted by: torabora at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Y274z)

177 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2019 02:39 PM (myjNJ

I thought several was more than two since a couple is two.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 02:40 PM (Q5ALd)

178 Clinton got run over by indictments, reeling home from my house Christmas Eve.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 12, 2019 02:40 PM (Vy7tf)

179 I wanna see JackStraw huffing on a huge doober to celebrate.
Posted by: Marcus T
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It's moments like this where it pays to know the players.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:40 PM (Pu/Kw)

180 alleged to contain several criminal referrals on
former FBI officials. The report will apparently have at least two
criminal referrals



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Is it several or two?



I'm still leaning toward none, because I don't expect this report to ever come out.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (sX1BW)

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Several is technically at least two... it could be far more than that and still meet the definition of several.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 02:40 PM (nAiE/)

181
153 Gosh, no Comey tweets since the 6th.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:34 PM (q80AH)


Deep Woods Druids take their pre-winter solstice preparations very seriously.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:41 PM (wy4/l)

182 Oh it will be a happy day for sure

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 02:41 PM (ZCEU2)

183 Sara Carter is extraordinarily reliable.

She and John Solomon should be sharing a Pulitzer.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 02:41 PM (Pk69y)

184 I thought several was more than two since a couple is two.
Posted by: Easy Andy
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So, throuple?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:41 PM (Pu/Kw)

185 Once this comes out - and the democrat media "there is no there, there"... is played out.



The next thing they will say is "This was all investigated, and nothing was found".



Be ready for it... regardless of what it said.

Posted by: Reality Man at November 12, 2019 02:38 PM (//Byp)

Well, it worked once already. The FBI IG report was absolutely damning and included a criminal referral for McCabe. And yet, 20-months later, McCabe remains unindicted and 90+ percent of the voting population has no idea the subject report even exists, much less what's in it.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 02:42 PM (NYS7S)

186 I've always considered "a few" to be three.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 12, 2019 02:42 PM (xlprn)

187 Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!

Posted by: White Goodman at November 12, 2019 02:42 PM (BDZWU)

188 Gosh, no Comey tweets since the 6th.

It takes a few days to make spontaneous obfuscated travel to a non-extradition country.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. at November 12, 2019 02:42 PM (lD3vL)

189 The IG is tying the IG's hands. I know the fact that he's an Obama appointee doesn't matter...except when it does.

I apologize for my rant on the previous thread, but a very local candidate I supported and who one, made it clear today that she only supports curbing immigration (illegal too) in our town. No, she has no control elsewhere, but she stated she will actively support high density housing and access to it for illegals in the nearby cities. Why? The St. Louis, "the doors were closed to us". Really? Fuck her.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 02:43 PM (U7k5w)

190 so somewhere between zero and 2,019 indictments happen in the next year ... put me down for $5 on twelve indictments total. closest number wins the pool.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 02:44 PM (Cus5s)

191
It takes a few days to make spontaneous obfuscated travel to a non-extradition country.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
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Pretty sure 'several days' is de rigueur.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 02:44 PM (Pu/Kw)

192 I like how everybody gets worked up over a report of what a future report may contain. It reminds me of those academic arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (hLRSq)

193 192 I like how everybody gets worked up over a report of what a future report may contain. It reminds me of those academic arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (hLRSq)

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12.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (q80AH)

194 Gee, I hope these don't interrupt McCabe and Comey's book tours...
I mean, no shit, those guys are out on book tours.
BOOK TOURS for f*ck's sake...

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (w7KSn)

195 While I still have hopes about Barr and Durham, Horowitz has a record here. I expect no more than "Mistakes were made and a new training policy is in order."

I will say this: if the report is worth shit, even minimally, it'll show that Trump has made real progress.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (ZbwAu)

196 Don't fuck with Chuck Grassley.
He will stomp a mudhole in your ass!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 02:46 PM (88+cf)

197 So whatever did happen to McCabe?

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 12, 2019 02:46 PM (Xvo1a)

198 194 Gee, I hope these don't interrupt McCabe and Comey's book tours...
I mean, no shit, those guys are out on book tours.
BOOK TOURS for f*ck's sake...
Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (w7KSn)

Both of these men know Horowitz better than I do, they've read his reports, they have seen his actions, and they seem to feel pretty safe.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 02:46 PM (U7k5w)

199 I could make a artisanal batch of soap, sell it on the net, go on Shark Tank for a deal, try QVC, go bankrupt, all before it would be time to soap each other's backs over this.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (k81AA)

200 196 Don't fuck with Chuck Grassley.
He will stomp a mudhole in your ass!
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 02:46 PM (88+cf)

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I'm gonna find him and yell, "Corn is food, not fuel!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (q80AH)

201 196 Don't fuck with Chuck Grassley.
He will stomp a mudhole in your ass!
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 02:46 PM (88+cf)

He tends to direct fire in the wrong places. We'll see.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (NWiLs)

202 It's more likely the perps either continue to have or will be restored to their security clearances than they will be punished. Here's to hoping that is totally wrong, though.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (iw59Q)

203 "It takes a few days to make spontaneous obfuscated travel to a non-extradition country."

Heh. Imagine that big goof trying to be clandestine surreptitious.

"Senor! You have dropped your false moustache! Ah - it is the great druid philosopher James Comey! Never could I have otherwise penetrated such a disguise!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (hLRSq)

204 193 192 I like how everybody gets worked up over a report of what a future report may contain. It reminds me of those academic arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.


How many angels?


Several.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (C+We0)

205 Posted by: White Goodman

My favorite!!

Posted by: George Lincoln Trump at November 12, 2019 02:48 PM (j5f5f)

206 "It takes a few days to make spontaneous obfuscated travel to a non-extradition country."



Then he's going to Chad or Yemen.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 02:48 PM (s2OJe)

207 Call me a black cloud, but this just shows me how people will corrupt a government for their own purposes and weaponize it against the people.

By that assessment, Democrats shouldn't be trusted to run a lemonade stand, much less our government.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 02:48 PM (MIsTo)

208 "196 Don't fuck with Chuck Grassley.
He will stomp a mudhole in your ass!"

The man can blow a mean second trombone.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 02:48 PM (iw59Q)

209 Grassley is a doddering old fool OR he is part of the Plan

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:49 PM (BqBId)

210 I cannot take any of this seriously anymore. Every month the report is expected by the end of that month.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 02:49 PM (wneaL)

211 Of course we all hope Jack is right and the major coup plotters go to jail, but optimism is not who we are.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 02:49 PM (r+sAi)

212 You trusted that we would lead you to indictments, and we delivered 0.

Posted by: Sessions, Rosenstein and Huber at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (U7k5w)

213 Is Rush a lurker here?

Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (BsCoj)

214 This one will be tricky. They deferred for a long time. A lot of people want heads on pikes over the destruction of lawn and order and a smaller large mass of people want heads on pikes because of that *and* the coup attempt.

Meanwhile, a different large mass of people (the entire corrupt edifice of state) wants nothing to happen at all, and this group has their hands on the levers of power.

This is also now happening at an inopportune time. They pretty much have to throw some read meat at the law-and-order types, try to keep the coup detractors from marching with pitchforks and torches, and try not to bury the state in a credibility crisis on the eve of impeachment.

I'm glad I a pretty honest guy and don't have to try to square this particular circle, because I don't see a way out. If they let important people go down, it will spike the impeachment and disrupt the power structure for any number of VIPs. If they don't let important people go down, it will piss off millions of people - perhaps badly.

I hope these bastards have fun. They made this bed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (e/H31)

215 Some turkeys will not be pardoned this year

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (PPbDD)

216 Grassley is a doddering old fool OR he is part of the Plan

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:49 PM (BqBId)

Yeah, but he has an excellent Harrumph!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (88+cf)

217 The woods are lovely, dark and deep
But I have promises to keep
Though one is not Eric Ciamella is the whistleblower

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (ZCEU2)

218 " Don't fuck with Chuck Grassley.
He will stomp a mudhole in your ass!"


Corn is the source of his power.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

219 She and John Solomon should be sharing a Pulitzer.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 02:41 PM (Pk69y)
*******
& Where do you think they are getting their info from ??? HMMMMMMMMM???

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:51 PM (BqBId)

220 Has Ace been eating regularly lately?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:51 PM (yRAFu)

221 Is Rush a lurker here?
Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (BsCoj)


I think somebody on his staff drops by with some regularity. Possibly even Snerdley.

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:51 PM (NiXyF)

222 221 Is Rush a lurker here?
Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (BsCoj)

I think somebody on his staff drops by with some regularity. Possibly even Snerdley.
Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:51 PM (NiXyF)

========

Snerdley! Pimp my books!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:52 PM (q80AH)

223 I wanna see JackStraw huffing on a huge doober to celebrate.

Posted by: Marcus T

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It's moments like this where it pays to know the players.
**
Oh Doober is a PLAYA and he is Yuuuuuhe!!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at November 12, 2019 02:52 PM (u6xw0)

224 Corn subsidies is are the source of his power.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (hLRSq)
++++++++++
FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2019 02:52 PM (e/H31)

225 like how everybody gets worked up over a report of what a future report may contain. It reminds me of those academic arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.


How many angels?


Several.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at November 12, 2019 02:47 PM (C+We0)

Depends. Are the angels a minority? Have they been discriminated against. Who manufactured the pin and is it defective ? Does the pin meet all of the government regulations? We will have to continue further investigations but expect a report to be released in two weeks.

Posted by: DOJ IG at November 12, 2019 02:53 PM (Q5ALd)

226 Lets see 8kun Up & running yesterday on a Military IP address, Now all the rumors of the hardly redacted FISA Abuse report. It is almost like SOMEONE has Planned this out??

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:53 PM (BqBId)

227 Puddin Head - While I'm not here during the day haven't seen any reference to another starving deprivation

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 02:53 PM (ZCEU2)

228 Pretty sure Snerdley is a lurker.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:53 PM (AIGhm)

229 221 Is Rush a lurker here?
Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 12, 2019 02:50 PM (BsCoj)

I think somebody on his staff drops by with some regularity. Possibly even Snerdley.
Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:51 PM (NiXyF)
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I often think that there are a few of "the big wigs" hanging out here at AoSHQ. You just hear/read something that soundsTOO familiar.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 02:53 PM (xptlg)

230 I wanna see JackStraw huffing on a huge doober to celebrate.

Posted by: Marcus T
*******
How would that be any different than normal ??

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:54 PM (BqBId)

231 How many purported referrals does it take to screw a nation?

Posted by: Professor I. Corey at November 12, 2019 02:54 PM (JQlio)

232 211 Of course we all hope Jack is right and the major coup plotters go to jail, but optimism is not who we are.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 02:49 PM (r+sAi)

I'm an optimistic realist.

Posted by: DOJ IG at November 12, 2019 02:54 PM (Q5ALd)

233 If it does have criminal referrals then expect to hear the phrase "DOJ prosecutors declined to prosecute" followed by the MSM continuing to say, "without evidence" whenever Trump mentions that the FBI is a corrupt deep state hellhole.

You're all going to have to wait 20 years for the Lisa Page tell-all book, "I tried to f--- everyone at least once including Trump," to learn the real story.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (hdzef)

234 I'm glad I a pretty honest guy and don't have to try to square this particular circle, because I don't see a way out. If they let important people go down, it will spike the impeachment and disrupt the power structure for any number of VIPs. If they don't let important people go down, it will piss off millions of people - perhaps badly.

I hope these bastards have fun. They made this bed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Those are the people who killed Epstein. (No snark)

Guess who loses in your scenario? Hint: it ain't them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (s2OJe)

235 "I'm gonna find him and yell, "Corn is food, not fuel!"

how do you feel about cotton? Is it OK to waste farm land to grow cotton, instead of food?

But ethanol may have been more useful at "peak oil" over $100/brl. Grow more corn for cows so everyone goes keto ... and develop local horticulture to repopulate the rural areas, and grow their economies.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (Cus5s)

236 Greg Gutfeld lurks here.

Years ago he stole one of my jokes. A very 'ron-specific joke that no one would come up with on their own. I posted it in the morning and he used it that afternoon on The Five.

I was chair dancing, yelling "That's my joke!!! From Ace of Spades this morning!!!" I wasn't mad. I was proud.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (1XNk8)

237 Just a reminder, Horowitz has been focused almost exclusively on FISA abuse. Durham has been looking at FISA abuse as part of a much bigger investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (ZLI7S)

238 How many purported referrals does it take to screw a nation?
Posted by: Professor I. Corey at November 12, 2019 02:54 PM (JQlio)
+++++++++++++
Fewer than ten.

If it's zero, it's over. If it's 1-2 or even a handful of small bit-players while the real guilty parties go free, it is probably over a bit later.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (e/H31)

239 >>Greg Gutfeld lurks here.


He joke shops here.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (AIGhm)

240 We've been on this yellow brick road for days.

Are we there yet?

Posted by: Burger Chef at November 12, 2019 02:56 PM (RuIsu)

241 186 I've always considered "a few" to be three.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 12, 2019 02:42 PM (xlprn)

Yes. I brain-farted on that.

(And yes, somebody associated with Rush lurks, possibly Snerdley.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:56 PM (RD7QR)

242 -
--

I wanna see JackStraw huffing on a huge doober to celebrate.



Posted by: Marcus T

*******

How would that be any different than normal ??


Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:54 PM

---------------

He would be celebrating. I mean, it's right there in the sentence.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 02:56 PM (pMGkg)

243 The war will be over before Christmas.

Posted by: Someguy


INCOMING!!!!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 02:56 PM (Pk69y)

244 He joke shops here.

Yep. The Urethranet, Greg!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 02:57 PM (1XNk8)

245 239 >>Greg Gutfeld lurks here.


He joke shops here.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (AIGhm)


He joke shops here.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 12, 2019 02:57 PM (hLRSq)

246 Off crusher of dreams sock

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Q5ALd)

247 >>Yep. The Urethranet, Greg!


Ha! I just read the rest of your comment.

Yeah - he borrows liberally from the Comments.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (AIGhm)

248 More than a 1000 bankers were convicted in the SnL crisis, but the housing crisis was a much bigger, no one went to prison. This coup involves not just a toppling of the republic, but an ocean of political graft that the DC swampsters surfed into power. 1000 convictions is too few, but would be a good start. tick tock ...

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Cus5s)

249 >>Greg Gutfeld lurks here.


He joke shops here.

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The price is right.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (sX1BW)

250 The report will be reported on as soon as we report that the report is ready to be reported on. Not one second sooner.

Posted by: Everything Clear? at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (vqIkG)

251 "234 I'm glad I a pretty honest guy and don't have to try to square this particular circle, because I don't see a way out. If they let important people go down, it will spike the impeachment and disrupt the power structure for any number of VIPs. If they don't let important people go down, it will piss off millions of people - perhaps badly.

I hope these bastards have fun. They made this bed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Those are the people who killed Epstein. (No snark)

Guess who loses in your scenario? Hint: it ain't them."

Yes, that was quite brazen and blatant. But it is hardly their first rodeo even during this cluster op; heard any reference to Seth Rich lately (no snark)? The only question I had after Trump won was why Hillary wasn't pardoned. The answer has become painfully obvious: Obama knew Hillary wouldn't be touched. And he was right.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (iw59Q)

252 The report will be reported on as soon as we report that the report is ready to be reported on. Not one second sooner.
Posted by: Everything Clear? at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (vqIkG)


Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:59 PM (NiXyF)

253 220 Has Ace been eating regularly lately?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:51 PM (yRAFu)

"Regularly" is a dodgy term when it comes to ace. Once every two weeks is regular, just not frequent.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:59 PM (RD7QR)

254 >>The price is right.


Yep. He really should give Ace more On-Air Love.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:00 PM (AIGhm)

255 >>The answer has become painfully obvious: Obama knew Hillary wouldn't be touched. And he was right.

Maybe.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:00 PM (ZLI7S)

256 Belgium has discovered Zombie movies.

I give you "Yummy":

https://tinyurl.com/Yummy-Zombies

Set in a plastic surgery ward in a hospital.

NSFW

Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (Pk69y)

257 254 >>The price is right.


Yep. He really should give Ace more On-Air Love.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:00 PM (AIGhm)

Phrasing?

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (O+iVW)

258 Until I see Gutfeld on a Vespa I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on borrowing jokes.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (Q5ALd)

259 252 The report will be reported on as soon as we report that the report is ready to be reported on. Not one second sooner.
Posted by: Everything Clear? at November 12, 2019 02:58 PM (vqIkG)

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:59 PM (NiXyF)

Somebody needs to transcendentalize Chomsky's grammar, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (RD7QR)

260 You can't always get what you want, but you just might get what you need.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (hLRSq)

261 252
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:59 PM (NiXyF)

==========

I understood that grammatically correct sentence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (q80AH)

262 12.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (q80AH)

Heretic. All true believers know it is 10.

Posted by: WOPR at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (J70i0)

263 Yep. He really should give Ace more On-Air Love.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:00 PM (AIGhm)

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I'm betting that Ace is so hated by the Conservative Media Ecosystem™ that even those of them who like him can't say so publicly, if they are employed within it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (AzW6q)

264 262 12.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (q80AH)

Heretic. All true believers know it is 10.
Posted by: WOPR at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (J70i0)

============

I feel a holy war coming on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (q80AH)

265 Somebody needs to transcendentalize Chomsky's grammar, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:01 PM (RD7QR)


On it.

*lights flammenwerfer, steps back*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (hLRSq)

266 I don't trust the DoJ,I don't trust the IG's.I don't trust anybody anymore.

Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (KNsKs)

267 You know the old saying... "Shit in one hand and piss in the other, see which one makes you more popular with San Francisco scrotum inflation fans."

Posted by: Joey "Two Turds" Biden at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (BrfST)

268 It's probably been said already but here goes:
Wake me up when they raid Comey's house at 4:00am.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:03 PM (v0R5T)

269 I'll believe it when I see it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 03:04 PM (KUaJL)

270 This shit got old two weeks ago.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at November 12, 2019 03:04 PM (Lr5Wu)

271 Flammenwerfer? Ja bitte!

Posted by: George Lincoln Trump at November 12, 2019 03:04 PM (j5f5f)

272 illinwek - Most were Democrats, so that dog wasn't going to hunt in any way, shape or form

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:05 PM (ZCEU2)

273 My goodness, she has size 8 feet.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 12, 2019 03:05 PM (Jj+59)

274 I don't trust the DoJ,I don't trust the IG's.I don't trust anybody anymore.
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (KNsKs)
........

It's sad times when the government becomes the enemy.
But not you Bob. You there Bob?

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:05 PM (v0R5T)

275 I don't trust the DoJ,I don't trust the IG's.I don't trust anybody anymore.
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (KNsKs)
++++++++++++++
This is *the* problem.

Credibility status: shot.
Credibility recovery assessment: too dangerous and expensive.

To get their credibility back again, they have to punish a *lot* of wrongdoers and so *very* publicly. I don't think that will happen, because it would guarantee the destruction of at least a couple of federal agencies (DoJ and State and the IC, at least) and has an outside risk of toppling the entire government.

Like YD says, the problem is not that the state has become corrupt. The problem is that corruption has become the state.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2019 03:05 PM (e/H31)

276 It's probably been said already but here goes:
Wake me up when they raid Comey's house at 4:00am.
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:03 PM (v0R5T)


Goddammit, who leaked?

Q

Posted by: Q at November 12, 2019 03:05 PM (NiXyF)

277 I wonder if Comey or Brennan - faced with indictment - would ask the Dems in Congress to shield them from prosecution under the theory that they were always doing the right thing against so called Trump/Russia collusion?

And would they do it?

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:06 PM (32YRo)

278 >> I don't trust the DoJ,I don't trust the IG's.I don't trust anybody anymore.


You should trust exactly nobody who is employed by the Government.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:06 PM (AIGhm)

279 267 You know the old saying... "Shit in one hand and piss in the other, see which one makes you more popular with San Francisco scrotum inflation fans."
Posted by: Joey "Two Turds" Biden at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (BrfST)

Brian Stelter is very, very chimpy about this idea.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (RD7QR)

280 Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:59 PM (NiXyF

Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!

Posted by: P. Manning at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (MOpDc)

281 Ah, El Rey network is having a Way of the Turkey kung-fu movie marathon over Thanksgiving.

So there's that, at least.

Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (NiXyF)

282 Sure glad the DoJ and FBI is now comprised solely of straight shooting men and women persons of impeccable integrity, all chock full of such an unbelievable amount of candor that we no longer have to fear the denial of justice by the delay of that justice!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (BiNEL)

283 Yeah, best to wait and see.

I knew and long ago mentioned that not all even grossly incorrect actions here might not be actually criminal, however outrageous.

But just TWO referrals??? From all this? If true, wow, and uh oh.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (xeh9R)

284 "Decline to prosecute." Adjust your dials to it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (H8QX8)

285 You should trust exactly nobody who is employed by the Government.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:06 PM (AIGhm)


I tried to warn y'all but did you listen?

No, you didn't listen.

Posted by: Fox Mulder, ex-FBI agent at November 12, 2019 03:08 PM (NiXyF)

286
Obama knew Hillary wouldn't be touched. And he was right.

------

So, there's a spectrum around here from "nothing will happen" to "big important things will happen."

I'm somewhere in the middle, around "a few small things will happen to attempt damage control."

I can see a rationale for all of those viewpoints.

But if anyone thinks anything approaching justice will come within the same solar system as those two... that's magical thinking.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:08 PM (AzW6q)

287 You can't always get what you want, but you just might get what you need.

What the country need is a gigantic enema with the nozzle stuck right into the HoR. Or Nazi Pelousi's office.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:08 PM (HaL55)

288 286
Obama knew Hillary wouldn't be touched. And he was right.

------

So, there's a spectrum around here from "nothing will happen" to "big important things will happen."

I'm somewhere in the middle, around "a few small things will happen to attempt damage control."

I can see a rationale for all of those viewpoints.

But if anyone thinks anything approaching justice will come within the same solar system as those two... that's magical thinking.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:08 PM (AzW6q)

=========

Whatever happened to the belief in SMOD?

Has he lost his acolytes around here?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:09 PM (q80AH)

289 >>Whatever happened to the belief in SMOD?


SMOD will Save Us.

But, he will not judge us.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (AIGhm)

290 Thank Heaven for little girls,
For little girls,
get bigger everyday,
Thank Heaven for litte girls,
they grow up,
in the most delightful way,
those little eyes so helpless and appealing,
one day will flash,
and send you through the celing,
Thank Heaven for little girls,
thank heaven for them all,
no matter where,
no matter who,
without them what would,
little boys do?
Because of them we don't commit suicide.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (ZbwAu)

291 A criminal referral does not a prison sentence make.
- Ancient Proverb

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (v0R5T)

292 289 >>Whatever happened to the belief in SMOD?


SMOD will Save Us.

But, he will not judge us.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (AIGhm)

=========

Or, is it that SMOD's judgment is the same for everyone?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (q80AH)

293 >>But if anyone thinks anything approaching justice will come within the same solar system as those two... that's magical thinking.

Define "approaching justice".

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (ZLI7S)

294 Not one person involved in the coup attempt will be indicted. Not. one. person. It is not happening. The only consolation is they did not manage to kick Trump out of office, but not one of them will pay any price at all.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (5KWnQ)

295 Latest: Astro accused of cheating in 2017 ALCS against Yankees...

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (32YRo)

296 Whatever happened to the belief in SMOD?

Has he lost his acolytes around here?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:09 PM (q80AH)

If there is no SMOD, I will become SMOD!

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 03:11 PM (O+iVW)

297 Wonder if any of those discussions w DOJ National Security division lawyers include Eric Ciaramella's IG, Michael Atkinson, who was Counsel to the Assistant AG, During the release of the first FISA?

Posted by: Ever at November 12, 2019 03:11 PM (ZZDMQ)

298 Whatever happened to the belief in SMOD?

Has he lost his acolytes around here?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:09 PM


SMOD is showing itself to be a slacker.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 03:11 PM (ejd/p)

299 Whatever happened to the belief in SMOD?

Has he lost his acolytes around here?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:09 PM (q80AH)

Trump came and many of us began to hope that SMOD was not necessary.

But SMOD is a jealous god, and will deal with our unfaithfulness harshly.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (KUaJL)

300 "The invisible Hand" in a pure world would produce open trading with efficient pricing and comparative advantages making life grand for everyone.


In the real world, the invisible hand of governments use their power to always do what is best for them ... sell that power to the highest bidder, and vote themselves early retirement and golden pensions.


Our founders killed the tyrants in order to form a more perfect union ... today we can't get much interest in fighting against an open coup, started by a notorious grifter and her crime syndicate. tick tock

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (Cus5s)

301 Looks like my spell check has learned about autocucumber.

Posted by: tbodie at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (MOpDc)

302 We aren't going to SMOD our way out of this.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (sX1BW)

303 ALTERNATE UNIVERSE REPORT

We here at AoS think that the posts Ace makes are "the news" and cover all the most significant political events of each day.

But "progressives" live in an alternate universe where they never even hear any these topics, and instead get hoppin' mad and full of daily outrage on a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT array of "news items" that generally have ZERO overlap with the current events that you and I deem to be news.

Case in point:

Was at a family gathering yesterday, where one of my liberal/progressive/leftist relatives (they're ALL this way) was freaking out about the big news of the day, and everyone chimed in and knew about it and were tut-tutting and/or had steam coming out of their ears in outrage.

And what was this news?

Apparently some woman, whom my relative identified as "Trump's spiritual advisor" (I didn't catch the name), said during a "sermon" that "Trump walks on holy ground" and that therefore wherever Trump has stepped is literally sacred, and right-wingers worship that ground. It's is a crazy cult! Trump voters literally are required to worship the ground he walks on! It's insane! IT"S ONE BIG VAST RIGHT-WING CULT!!!

I nodded sagely and said "Gee, that sounds pretty bad," then changed the subject as quickly as I could.

But seriously, I had never even HEARD of this news item, while to my family it was the front-page freakout news story of the week.

Like I said: We live in alternate universes. No overlap whatsoever.

Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (fK2gX)

304 Almost out of the Taurids and no SMOD in sight.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (xfb67)

305 Latest: Astro accused of cheating in 2017 ALCS against Yankees...

Posted by: Boswell

Major league baseball now doing a major investigation of the Astros' organization 2017 thru 2019 for sign stealing using cameras and electronics in the outfield...whoa.

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:13 PM (32YRo)

306
But if anyone thinks anything approaching justice will come within the same solar system as those two... that's magical thinking.

Define "approaching justice".
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (ZLI7S)

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Personally, I'd define it as a declaration of hostis humani generis on both of them, followed by a very public auto-da-fe.

But for practical purposes, let's assume something very mild - referrals for prosecution, and pardon by the President.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:13 PM (AzW6q)

307 303
I nodded sagely and said "Gee, that sounds pretty bad," then changed the subject as quickly as I could.

But seriously, I had never even HEARD of this news item, while to my family it was the front-page freakout news story of the week.

Like I said: We live in alternate universes. No overlap whatsoever.
Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2019 03:12 PM (fK2gX)

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"The only solution is to purge America of all religious people. We should campaign on it!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:13 PM (q80AH)

308 wth- I'm up every day at that time so will give you a shout out when that happens

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:13 PM (ZCEU2)

309 Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Posted by: filbert at November 12, 2019 02:59 PM (NiXyF

Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!

Posted by: P. Manning at November 12, 2019 03:07 PM (MOpDc)
.........

Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!

Posted by: Dr. Sevrin at November 12, 2019 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

310 262
12.



Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 02:45 PM (q80AH)

Heretic. All true believers know it is 10.


14. 13 is a baker's dozen, 14 a cupid's.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 12, 2019 03:14 PM (sGtp+)

311 So,

Molly Jong-Fast is the daughter of Erica Jong and a Zipless Cuck.

Posted by: Kazi at November 12, 2019 03:15 PM (0x00j)

312 See William Barr Chuck.

Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 12, 2019 03:15 PM (BsCoj)

313 311 So,

Molly Jong-Fast is the daughter of Erica Jong and a Zipless Cuck.
Posted by: Kazi at November 12, 2019 03:15 PM (0x00j)

=========

So, immaculately conceived?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:16 PM (q80AH)

314 Can't get anything by Ole Chuck Grassley! JFC, this damn report was supposed to be out in May! And why is no one from the DOJ being referred for criminal charges? What about Brennan and Clapper? IOW, no one will be held accountable.
Seriously, the DOJ and FBI need to be disbanded.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 12, 2019 03:16 PM (vGJY7)

315

Are Astro and Scooby Doo the same dog? Discuss.

Posted by: Natter and Grommish at November 12, 2019 03:16 PM (ZKH8Q)

316 SMOD, pffff

I'm waiting for the Star trek doomsday ice cream cone.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at November 12, 2019 03:16 PM (JQ9Wq)

317 Do you think we could hire a democrat prosecutor?

They know how to do shit like this.

If we had one fucking prosecutor who knew how to play the game, Comey's wife and kids would be indicted by now, waiting for his full confession and testimony about the dozens of others involved. Stop dicking around and go for the jugular.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:16 PM (U6f/q)

318 281
Ah, El Rey network is having a Way of the Turkey kung-fu movie marathon over Thanksgiving.

d'oh! since i allowed mrs. chronda to upgrade our DirecTV equipment in the post-earthquake kerfuffle, i don't get El Rey anymore.

and i'm pretty sure this year's lack of july roarth is what caused the earthquakes.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 12, 2019 03:17 PM (sGtp+)

319 Several is not a synonym for 2.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (ZLI7S)

"Throuple" is sin-on-him for two.

Posted by: Katie Hill at November 12, 2019 03:17 PM (/sgva)

320 If we had one fucking prosecutor who knew how to play the game, Comey's wife and kids would be indicted by now, waiting for his full confession and testimony about the dozens of others involved. Stop dicking around and go for the jugular.



Posted by: jwest at November



That's not WHO WE ARE.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:17 PM (d7Ww2)

321 >>Personally, I'd define it as a declaration of hostis humani generis on both of them, followed by a very public auto-da-fe.

>>But for practical purposes, let's assume something very mild - referrals for prosecution, and pardon by the President.

>>Not. Gonna. Happen.

And that's the problem I think we have. A great many people are looking for a remedy that exists only in their dreams not in reality.

In the real world, not the Mueller world, charging people with crimes is hard. A good prosecutor isn't going to bring charges unless he has evidence and he believes he has enough evidence to prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a very high bar as it should be.

And last I looked we don't burn people alive in the US any longer. But indicting a former Director of the FBI for real crimes is kind of a big deal. It's never happened before and it would be an earthquake. It might not satisfy everyone but it would be a very big deal nevertheless.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)

322 >>Major league baseball now doing a major investigation of the Astros' organization 2017 thru 2019 for sign stealing using cameras and electronics in the outfield...whoa.


Wide Angles in the Outfield?

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (AIGhm)

323 All this IG edging for a lousy 2 criminal referrals? The light poles along Constitution Ave to the Theodore Roosevelt Bridge should be all in use.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (q1Pj5)

324 The IG has confirmed proof that John Brennan is one of the most prolific serial killers in modern history. Horowitz has compiled 100,000 pages of evidence that connects him to 315 murders over a 20 year period. His criminal referral was passed to the DOJ, who has declined to prosecute, citing a reluctance to persecute political opponents. AG bill Barr is quoted as saying "Prosecuting and jailing members of the previous administration is just not who we are!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (UB/j7)

325 Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:10 PM (ZLI7S)
*******
For easier Goalpost Moving

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (BqBId)

326 >>Apparently some woman, whom my relative identified as "Trump's spiritual advisor" (I didn't catch the name), said during a "sermon" that "Trump walks on holy ground" and that therefore wherever Trump has stepped is literally sacred, and right-wingers worship that ground. It's is a crazy cult! Trump voters literally are required to worship the ground he walks on! It's insane! IT"S ONE BIG VAST RIGHT-WING CULT!!!



Obama + Halo + Oceans Falling = What?

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (AIGhm)

327 NOOD DACA

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (aS1PU)

328 So, immaculately conceived?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:16 PM (q80AH)


Incredibly deceived. Erica received a visitation from a fallen angel.

Posted by: Kazi at November 12, 2019 03:20 PM (0x00j)

329 303
Apparently some woman, whom my relative identified as "Trump's
spiritual advisor" (I didn't catch the name), said during a "sermon"
that "Trump walks on holy ground" and that therefore wherever Trump has
stepped is literally sacred, and right-wingers worship that ground. It's
is a crazy cult! Trump voters literally are required to worship the
ground he walks on! It's insane! IT"S ONE BIG VAST RIGHT-WING CULT!!!


it's a good thing they haven't found out about the MAGA brands we're required to have burned into our inner thighs.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 12, 2019 03:20 PM (sGtp+)

330 That's not WHO WE ARE.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:17 PM (d7Ww2)

I would be waterboarding his wife and kids.

That's who I am.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:20 PM (U6f/q)

331
And last I looked we don't burn people alive in the US any longer.


There's the problem right there.

The Progressives and Democrats in DC have no fear of we the people.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (HaL55)

332 SMOD smites the just and unjust alike.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (QQ+il)

333 236 Greg Gutfeld lurks here.

Years ago he stole one of my jokes. A very 'ron-specific joke that no one would come up with on their own. I posted it in the morning and he used it that afternoon on The Five.

I was chair dancing, yelling "That's my joke!!! From Ace of Spades this morning!!!" I wasn't mad. I was proud.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 02:55 PM (1XNk


The greatest honor for a comedian is to have their joke stolen.

I hope to have that honor some day.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (sy5kK)

334 And last I looked we don't burn people alive in the US any longer.

There's the problem right there.

The Progressives and Democrats in DC have no fear of we the people.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (HaL55)

One rarely sees even a good shunning anymore.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (q1Pj5)

335 Andrew McCabe got a criminal referral too. So what's he up to these days, antiquing?

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (v0R5T)

336 two is company
three's a crowd
four is too many and
five is not allowed

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (XzVUd)

337 If Comey were to go to trial, where?

He's a lock in DC.

Have it in Oklahoma.

Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (M3a0a)

338 Criminal referrals? Witness the power of this fully-operational Banana Republic!

Posted by: DOJ at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (uGHnY)

339 Andrew McCabe got a criminal referral too. So what's he up to these days, antiquing?
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (v0R5T)

Somewhere in DC a Page/Strok protege is busy typing and deleting.

Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2019 03:29 PM (M3a0a)

340
The greatest honor for a comedian is to have their joke stolen.

I hope to have that honor some day.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (sy5kK)

Every once in a while, someone will copy something I wrote, put it on another blog, and then kind of apologize, I want to say "oh come on! I love that!!!!" Posts and ideas are like your children, you love to see them get out in the world and do well on their own.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (Kpl3J)

341
And that's the problem I think we have. A great many people are looking for a remedy that exists only in their dreams not in reality.

In the real world, not the Mueller world, charging people with crimes is hard. A good prosecutor isn't going to bring charges unless he has evidence and he believes he has enough evidence to prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a very high bar as it should be.

And last I looked we don't burn people alive in the US any longer. But indicting a former Director of the FBI for real crimes is kind of a big deal. It's never happened before and it would be an earthquake. It might not satisfy everyone but it would be a very big deal nevertheless.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)

-----

Ah yes, the final hidden truth from JackStraw: these people did nothing criminal that can be concluded beyond a reasonable doubt.

i.e. NO REASONABLE PROSECUTOR

Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: MAGA at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (ti+Fs)

342 One plausible reason for the report being delayed is Dunham using it for his grand jury questioning, and wanting to finish that before releasing it.
I heard someone say this. Maybe it makes sense, maybe it doesn't. I'm just an AOS moron herd member.

Posted by: Dogstar at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (1Mkgr)

343 I'm of the opinion that no Dem will go to prison, or even suffer a slight reverse from any of this.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (E+OcO)

Hillary Clinton: Running for President in 2020 is Not "Part of My Plans," But "Never Say Never"

She's running.

Or: She's shuffling awkwardly and sadly. And falling down stairs, and being thrown into the back of a van like a Mexican kidnap victim.

I'll take it.


Hillary Clinton says she's under "enormous pressure" to consider a 2020 White House bid but it's "absolutely not" part of her plans right now.

"As I say, never, never, never say never," Clinton told BBC Radio 5 Live host Emma Barnett when asked Tuesday if she was ruling out another political run. "I will certainly tell you, I'm under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it," the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee continued.

Meanwhile, the Beast's 2008 campaign strategist, Mark Penn, also says he thinks she might embarrass herself again.


It's not too late for Hillary Clinton to enter the race for the Democratic nomination just as Michael Bloomberg did, her former strategist says.

Mark Penn, who served as a chief strategist and pollster during Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential campaign, thinks his former boss could still jump in at this late stage.

'There’s still a couple of days here,' Penn told Fox News.

'I don't know whether [Clinton will] look at the Michael Bloomberg thing and say, "The field's too crowded now. I missed my opportunity," or the opposite.

Dick Morris is saying the same thing, but he hasn't advised the Clintons since the 90s.

I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does. The people she'd usually tap to run her campaign are running other people's, and the money people are giving her the cold shoulder, and Democrat graybeards are counselling her to pack it in.

She wants to, though.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:04 PM




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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (cF8AT)

2 please please please

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (8D42x)

3 IT LIVES

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (YhLp3)

4 Under tremendous pressure from what-her narcissistic or sociopathic delusions?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (WI7YS)

5 She'll have to announce before Feb. to make Iowa, NH...right?

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (X/Pw5)

6 Never say Never!

(and I would NOT like her better if we slept together)

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (1XNk8)

7 Run! Run, you hag!

Posted by: DitkaCA at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (kVjCi)

8 I want to bang Kate Upton. Probably not gonna happen.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (ZLI7S)

9 Hillary Clinton says she's under "enormous pressure" to consider a 2020 White House bid but it's "absolutely not" part of her plans right now.

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Pressure? Checks are starting to bounce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (YhLp3)

10 BRING IT

Posted by: THE GLASS CEILING at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (AIGhm)

11 "I'm under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it"


Are these real people or voices in your head?

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (cF8AT)

12 She's not running. It would end up more of a bloodbath than it was in '16.

Besides, what is she going to run on?

She. Ain't. Running.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (CqE5x)

13 Hillary Clinton is friendzone-ing the Democrat party.

Oh, I couldn't date you right now. I've got way too much going on now. But maybe in the future *wink.*

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (KUaJL)

14 I'm under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it

maybe this is the sign of coming indictments?

the biden defense, i.e. you can't prosecute me, i'm a candidate...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (8D42x)

15 I hope she enters and get pantsed in the primary. Maybe then she is will slink off into oblivion never to be seen or heard from again.

Posted by: overit at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (sI15f)

16 Any chance she'll kill Bill for a boost in the polls?

Or that she'll kill herself when she loses again?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

17 Honesty, I think any Democrat candidate embarrasses themselves by running right now. Their policies and agenda resonate with 10% of the population. The smart move is to wait beyond Trump. I don't see anyone on the Republican bench who has the balls to follow him.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (MIsTo)

18 "As I say, never, never, never say never," Clinton told BBC Radio 5 Live
host Emma Barnett when asked Tuesday if she was ruling out another
political run. "I will certainly tell you, I'm under enormous pressure
from many, many, many people to think about it," the 2016 Democratic
presidential nominee continued.
Hillary kind of sounds like a broken broken broken record there. I think a few more of her screws may be coming loose.

Posted by: Steve "Bofa" D'Snutz at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (SOV+T)

19 how old is this bitch now?

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (FZYNt)

20 Krakatoa was under tremendous pressure too and look what happened to it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (YhLp3)

21 Sad that this is being discussed during McCain's funeral, show some respect Hillary

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (w+eSh)

22 Dick Morris is a name I haven't heard in a long, long time.

He was usually good on Clinton stuff, but his election predications were usually comically wrong.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (nNEcr)

23 From the sidebar - Zorro was the lamest Cowboy Hero ever written. It's like SoCal wanted a hero, so they made him up.

The only "Zorro" I ever liked was "Zorro, the Gay Blade", and now that's on the Embargo list.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (Kpl3J)

24 Political campaigns are fabulous tools to facilitate money-laundering.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (vkS2Z)

25 Well, she could also be under enormous pressure from people who are in it for the graft-not that they think she's be a good Pres.-Just one who's effective at turning on the money spigot for them..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (WI7YS)

26 Old dirtyTwatters probably begging her to run. Thinks that's popularity.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (nRWPy)

27 I'm hoping Deval Patrick joins the Dem clown car. The more, the merrier.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (ptqGC)

28 like a Mexican kidnap victim.
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This is why we come back here after you beat us, ace.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (LQtHg)

29 That "enormous pressure" is gravity x 100 on those cankles.

Posted by: Gary Mike at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (AIcDk)

30 Oh right, being a dnc primary candidate does give you immunity to investigation

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (w+eSh)

31 Wait a minute, how can Drunkary be under enormous pressure when every single poll has every Democrat candidate beating Trump?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (bkUtD)

32 >>I'm under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it




Well. She IS the most qualified candidate, ever.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (AIGhm)

33 thrown into the back of a van like a Mexican kidnap victim.
........

You wish. Wouldn't touch that shit with your dick.

Posted by: Sinaloa Cartel at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

34 being thrown into the back of a van like a Mexican kidnap victim

I do believe that's rayciss. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (EgshT)

35 "The current crop of democratic candidates aren't getting any momentum. The field is too crowded."

"Now is a good time for me to throw my hat in the rink."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (KUaJL)

36 Hillary Clinton says she's under "enormous pressure"

That's your bladder, Hillz.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (ptqGC)

37 Asking for a little real journalism here (Yeah, I know, right?) but isn't someone going to ask, "From who are you feeling this 'enormous pressure' to run? Cuz if it's from Bill, he just wants you out of the house."

Posted by: Ted K. at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (FJYfm)

38 I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does. The people she'd usually tap to run her campaign are running other people's, and the money people are giving her the cold shoulder, and Democrat graybeards are counselling her to pack it in.

She wants to, though.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:04 PM

I think she's planning to be a "default candidate" when the convention fails to select a yahoo from their current clown car, and it ends up being a brokered convention.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (J+mig)

39 They'll need a presidential limo with a lift gate. Another FIRST!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (YhLp3)

40 We need her strong leadership and guidance in these troubling times of Trumphf

Posted by: Paul Peckerwood at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (ZD72y)

41 It's still hard to believe her and her rapist husband have been tip toeing through the rain drops of their criminality on the national stage for 30 fucking years.


I understand it's bad form to wish death upon anyone save literally Hitler, but will no manifestation of the afterlife rid us of this pestulent family?

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (JLrCS)

42 I'm withered

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (w+eSh)

43 I'm under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it...

Told ya: https://tinyurl.com/y2rc8zmc

Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (OMsf+)

44 37 Asking for a little real journalism here (Yeah, I know, right?) but isn't someone going to ask, "From who are you feeling this 'enormous pressure' to run? Cuz if it's from Bill, he just wants you out of the house."
Posted by: Ted K. at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (FJYfm)

I'd be surprised if they even talk to each other anymore.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (nNEcr)

45 With all her maladies - and alcoholism - I'm surprised she's lived this long.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (bkUtD)

46 Bill will need to die so she can garner some sympathy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (ptqGC)

47 I can still see them stuffing her like a rug into that van. The look on her face was a realization it was probably all over.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (MIsTo)

48 Remember their speaking tour and the lack of audiences? The book tour?


That's how much moxie Hillary has in the Democrats these days.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (hLRSq)

49 Many people = Masthead of the Bulwark and Jonah's memeographed newsletter

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (nRWPy)

50 You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (YhLp3)

51 I wouldn't want someone so vague and indecisive as President.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (7PQBV)

52 Hillary Clinton says she's under "enormous pressure" to consider a 2020 White House bid but it's "absolutely not" part of her plans right now.

She has no idea what real pressure is.

Posted by: Hillary's Sphincter at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (gHCnG)

53 thrown into the back of a van like a Mexican kidnap victim.
..........

We're gonna need a bigger van.

Posted by: Sinaloa Cartel at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (v0R5T)

54 Has she released the names of some of those many, many people who want her to run?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (Uu+Jp)

55 She's Gollum. Her lust for The Precious is destroying her body and soul, but it's also the only thing keeping her alive.

The bad Orange Man! He take it from us!

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (N4xQB)

56 A FOX News Poll, just released, says that she beats Trump 75%-25% in a head to head match-up.....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (CqE5x)

57 Oh please, please let her crash the debates!

I want to be there when the maw of Hell opens up and Old Scratch drags her down to her reward, with Trump throwing back his thatched head and laughing, all captured on national t.v.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (Dc2NZ)

58
45 With all her maladies - and alcoholism - I'm surprised she's lived this long.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (bkUtD)

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Sheer hate and vindictiveness keeps her alive.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (YhLp3)

59 The Beast must be talking about her liver being under pressure.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (y7DUB)

60 Well, now that Epstein didn't kill himself, she doesn't have to worry about certain things coming out. Except for emails, clinton foundation corruption, her vodka stash, her Ukraine ties, and anal leakage. Otherwise, good to go.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (r+sAi)

61 Wow Dick Morris. Now I'll have to find out what Bill O'Reilly has to say. :/

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (Fxgkp)

62 From the previous post:*

"Even if we did have independent reporting, I don't see why the media should be baited into naming somebody because I think it violates the spirit of the Whistleblower Protection Act," Kurtz added.

But the Whistleblower Protection Act bars agency authorities from taking ... retaliatory action ...
____________

You see, he thinks they are part of the governing establishment, in a convenient way. When it suits them, they act like it, but when it doesn't, well the rules don't really apply.

They're like those bike riders who morph between being a pedestrian, and being a vehicle, as their needs demand.

*I slept in today, just catching up.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (ZbwAu)

63 55 She's Gollum. Her lust for The Precious is destroying her body and soul, but it's also the only thing keeping her alive.

The bad Orange Man! He take it from us!
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (N4xQB)

I don't think she has the leg strength to leap on Trump's back and bite his finger off.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (nNEcr)

64 The look on her face was a realization it was probably all over.


Oh, I thought that look was, "I just wet farted my pantsuit and where's my shoe?"

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (nRWPy)

65 Scary thought: if Hildawg can get Epstein whacked at her current power level, can you imagine what she could have done if she won?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (N4xQB)

66 I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does.

Can't they find anybody older; you know, somebody with more experience?

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (gHCnG)

67 Yes, Democrats - the party of Tomorrow, the Youf, and dah Fewchure~!

"nO gLaSs CeIlInGs~!"
* shart, hic, flop *

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (1Vobx)

68 She hasn't logged nearly enough frequent flyer miles these last few years to be at the same super-qualified-to-be-President level that she was in 2016.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (s63h3)

69 The lust for power gnaws at her and she can't let go.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (prSvo)

70 Grab them by the palsy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (Fk2H6)

71 I for one, will welcome all the slip and fall videos.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (v0R5T)

72 I think Hillary does this just for the attention.

Not that she's an attention whore...oh, no, not that...well, okay, that.

Moreover, this is probably her last shot at monetizing her mere existence.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (Pu/Kw)

73 I understand it's bad form to wish death upon anyone save literally Hitler, but will no manifestation of the afterlife rid us of this pestulent family?
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (JLrCS)

You think I want them? So many of their cronies are down here already that they'll launch a coup inside of a week.

Posted by: Hel at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (J+mig)

74 Honestly, Trump's presidency could have been an abysmal failure, but as long as that bitch was miserable for the rest of her life about the loss, it would be a win.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (bkUtD)

75 Debates? There's nothing left to give away or people to pander to, so how can she make an impact unless she goes hard centrist

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (w+eSh)

76 I also don't think there is a spanx strong enough to squeeze her into anything other than mao suits.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (nRWPy)

77 Hillary Clinton says she's under "enormous pressure" to consider a 2020 White House bid

She's under enormous pressure? Consider the pressure her Depends are under!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (RFAn/)

78 I never thought Kurtz was a good fit at Fox. I may have to rethink that. Good post.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (Fxgkp)

79 Save us Obi Wan Cankles, you're our only hope!

Posted by: No Sane Person, Ever at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (YhLp3)

80 55 She's Gollum. Her lust for The Precious is destroying her body and soul, but it's also the only thing keeping her alive.
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If you love something, set it free...

https://steotch.com/2011/01/31/precious-love/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (Dc2NZ)

81 Someone please get her on the campaign trail ...

I got some sweet ass 19 year old trim to tap

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (DBwoU)

82 Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (KUaJL)

83 She won't run.
Who would back her?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (vEIlU)

84 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

Freddie Mercury.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

85 >>>Sheer hate and vindictiveness keeps her alive.


Like Emperor Palpatine.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (bkUtD)

86
Oh please, please let her crash the debates!



I want to be there when the maw of Hell opens up and Old Scratch
drags her down to her reward, with Trump throwing back his thatched head
and laughing, all captured on national t.v.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (Dc2NZ)


I'm dying here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (ptqGC)

87 It's the old conflict between fantasy and reality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (+y/Ru)

88 With all her maladies - and alcoholism - I'm surprised she's lived this long.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (bkUtD)

Bob Dole, Jimmy Carter, RBG, Dick Cheney......they'll live forever....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (CqE5x)

89 >>>She won't run.
Who would back her?


The Koch family, probably.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (bkUtD)

90 Meanwhile, reports are that Field Marshal Bambi is pushing Deval Patrick.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (sWM8x)

91 69 The lust for power gnaws at her and she can't let go.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (prSvo)

It doesn't just gnaw at her, it's the malign spark (opposite of a divine spark, just made it up, yo) that animates her withered carcass.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (J+mig)

92 Black dude with injector pen full of something out of retirement to talk her back into her body during speeches!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (Fk2H6)

93 It's HER TURN, dammit!

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (Tt761)

94 >>>Bob Dole, Jimmy Carter, RBG, Dick Cheney......they'll live forever....


Keith Richards, the cast of the new wahmen Ghostbusters...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (bkUtD)

95 I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does.

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I think she wants to win but she does not want to risk losing a third time. She'll run if she can see a clear path to victory, but right now that path does not look good. The problem is if she waits too long there may be no path at all.

Right now her best path is probably to sit tight and silently run without making a formal announcement.

See how the impeachment leaves turn. If Trump looks extremely vulnerable but Dem field looks weak, then she can get in.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (sX1BW)

96
Scary thought: if Hildawg can get Epstein whacked at her current power
level, can you imagine what she could have done if she won?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (n N4xQB)

Been saying that since 2007. People didn't understand her at all. She's pure evil.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (nRWPy)

97 23 From the sidebar - Zorro was the lamest Cowboy Hero ever written. It's like SoCal wanted a hero, so they made him up.

The only "Zorro" I ever liked was "Zorro, the Gay Blade", and now that's on the Embargo list.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (Kpl3J)

I need to Own this movie because the will try to bury this fine movie.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (iIBQY)

98 I asked her to run. I have a score to settle with Biden.

Posted by: Corn Pop at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (FJYfm)

99 You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

Freddie Mercury.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

Am I forgotten already?

Posted by: David Bowie at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (CqE5x)

100

She is dangling that carrot to keep riding the grift hog. She cannot make money honestly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (vEIlU)

101 I think she's planning to be a "default candidate" when the convention fails to select a yahoo from their current clown car, and it ends up being a brokered convention.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (J+mig)


My take exactly. She's hoping to be the "unity candidate" after the others all bloody each other.

Realistically, it's her only chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (RFAn/)

102 I hope she does that coquettish googly-eye schtick again. The flyover rubes love that stuff.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (YhLp3)

103 Bill will need to die so she can garner some sympathy.

Bill has the opposite situation.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (dBiBP)

104 I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does. The people she'd usually tap to run her campaign are running other people's, and the money people are giving her the cold shoulder, and Democrat graybeards are counselling her to pack it in.
_________

I don't know. Those people who have deserted her may be in danger of not committing suicide.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (ZbwAu)

105 the old gray mare she ain't what she used to be

and she used to be really bad, and corrupt.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (Cus5s)

106 She does not want to run for POTUS, just like she did not want to run in 2008 or 2016. She simply wants to BE POTUS.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (wGbBR)

107 Did she have surgery to fix that goggle eye yet?
How about that weird hole in her tongue?

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (v0R5T)

108 @65

It is scary to contemplate that the Clinton's are prime controlling authorities of the Deep State and that if she won she would have sicced the dogs on Trump.


I firmly believe that the Trump Russia Hoax was primarily borne to give President Clinton's justice department the predicate for indicting candidate Trump under the Ploufe construction that, Trump must be so thoroughly beaten so that his kind never rises again.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (JLrCS)

109 she's under enormous pressure???

Posted by: Hillary's Shoes at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (nFwvY)

110 Hillary Clinton says she's under "enormous pressure" to consider a 2020
White House bid but it's "absolutely not" part of her plans right now.

Not as much pressure as her girdle.

Posted by: TheHoser at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (IDjUx)

111 Sheer hate and vindictiveness keeps her alive.

That's good to hear. I'll live to be 145.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (EgshT)

112 99 You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

Freddie Mercury.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

Am I forgotten already?
Posted by: David Bowie

you have no idea what pressure can do

Posted by: Peter North at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (FZYNt)

113 >>>How about that weird hole in her tongue?


That's for her tongue stud.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (bkUtD)

114 Dan Bishop is based.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (q80AH)

115 And Steve Schmidt, who's never wrong, says there's a good chance Haley will bump Pence off the Trump ticket.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (sWM8x)

116 Debates? There's nothing left to give away or people to pander to, so how can she make an impact unless she goes hard centrist
Posted by: Mack the jack
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Moderator:"Okay, who here wants to make everything free, raise your hand"

['Debate' participants all raise their hands]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Pu/Kw)

117 I think she's planning to be a "default candidate" when the convention fails to select a yahoo from their current clown car, and it ends up being a brokered convention.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (J+mig)

Her problem is that I see no way for her to lever Warren out of the way. The progs love Warren, she is tailoring everything she says to appeal to them, and even though the Wall Street crowd is unhappy, I don't see them winning in an all out convention fight with the Progs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Kpl3J)

118 Also, I'm not surprised that she's running again, albeit a bit sub rosa. I predicted this months ago: she's consumed by ambition, a feminist need to compete with Bill, and the determination to be a historic "first."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (RFAn/)

119 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?


Billy Joel

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (AIGhm)

120 She's not running.

She's a mentally ill, sickly old bitch. She loves the attention her vacillations get her. She's fat, lazy and entitled. That attitude will serve her the same as it served her last time.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (vg8iE)

121 How many face plants is she going to do on the campaign trail?
If her people are smart they'll weld handles onto her exoskeleton.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Uu+Jp)

122
It doesn't just gnaw at her, it's the malign spark (opposite of a divine spark, just made it up, yo) that animates her withered carcass.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:14 PM (J+mig)

See also George Soros, who looks more and more like Jabba the Hutt with each passing year.

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Ycey0)

123 One thing is for sure: Hillary wants to keep her name in the news. And Chelsea's. I'm guessing she wants to goose some new donations to the family foundation in expectation of a Hillary run, or Chelsea deciding to run for some NY office.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (bDqIh)

124 Maybe that cuck, Brett Baier, can interview her on Fox.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (MIsTo)

125 I'm under enormous pressure for her to run again ...

These blue balls aren't releasing themselves

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (DBwoU)

126 She will run because she lusts for power.

Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (KNsKs)

127 Is she really "pure evil"? Wouldn't pure evil be robed in a more appealing package?

Frodo Baggins: Well, if he was one of the enemy, he would look fairer and...well, feel fouler, if you see what I mean.
Aragorn: (laughing) While I look foul and feel fair, is that it?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Dc2NZ)

128 108 @65

It is scary to contemplate that the Clinton's are prime controlling authorities of the Deep State and that if she won she would have sicced the dogs on Trump.


I firmly believe that the Trump Russia Hoax was primarily borne to give President Clinton's justice department the predicate for indicting candidate Trump under the Ploufe construction that, Trump must be so thoroughly beaten so that his kind never rises again.
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (JLrCS)

=========

I'm willing to fully believe this.

So, the pressure Clinton must be feeling must be coming from her deep state contacts. Because they're so confident that Trump is done. I mean, have you seen the national polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (q80AH)

129 119 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?


Billy Joel
Posted by: garrett

no

he didn't start the fire

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (FZYNt)

130
Any chance she'll kill Bill for a boost in the polls?

Or that she'll kill herself when she loses again?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (ptqGC)








Back in 2016 I was predicting that Bill would mysteriously pass away in mid-Oct. Just in time to get some sympathy votes. I think that the only thing that saved Bubba was that Frau Gruppencankles thought she had it in the bag. Oops.

Mark my words. If she runs and gets the nomination again, Bill is a dead man walking.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (kw0bd)

131 She's the shadow candidate, then. I suspect a Judas Goat is goading her to do this and she's just arrogant and stupid enough to do this.

Posted by: Crowley at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (JcPkt)

132 running for President is probably the happiest time of her shitty life, certainly the happiest she has any chance of repeating (she can't be the First Lady again, probably can't expect to be Secretary of State again no matter who wins in 2020, she'd have to primary someone to be a Senator again)

of course she's want to run again-- the fact that her shriveled alcoholic heart believes she Shoulda Won is just icing on the cake

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (qLWVe)

133 I'm so excited!

Posted by: Bollards Everywhere at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (IttZ7)

134 >.See also George Soros, who looks more and more like Jabba the Hutt with each passing year.



His son Alex is already taking an active role in the family business.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (bDqIh)

135 Save us Michelle! You're our only hope!

Posted by: Dems at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (ptqGC)

136 >>>he didn't start the fire


Ryan started the fire!

Posted by: Dwight Shrute at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (bkUtD)

137 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?


The Davies?

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (AIGhm)

138 Moderator:"Okay, who here wants to make everything free, raise your hand"

['Debate' participants all raise their hands]
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
---------

Bernie Sanders: "I not only want everything to be free, I will establish a $3000 monthly stipend for all."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (Pu/Kw)

139 Floating a trial balloon.

Unfortunately when she looks up at them she'll be struck by a seizure.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (Fk2H6)

140 Sanford out.

I guess that leaves alcoholic, long-forgotten former MA Guv William Weld as the sole remaining Great White Hope of the NeverTrumpers.

SAVE US, WELD! Save the GOPe!

Posted by: mnw at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (Cssks)

141 She should announce her candidacy at Costco.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (v0R5T)

142 Hillary is under enormous pressure only from that imaginary friend of her that lives in the closet next to her gin that says "it's all okay, take another hit babe!

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (32YRo)

143 She wants very badly to be president, but the Democratic Party wants her to go very very far away, crawl into a hole, and pull it over herself. Her power and influence ain't what it used to be, either. Most of what she could use as blackmail material is threatening to come out in legal action these days. The Clinton fund isn't as rich as it once was. She called on every favor she may have had to get to November 2016.

I know she wants the job, but she doesn't want to campaign, she's always hated "retail politics" because she's a psychopath who hates fellow humans. But if she can work out some way in which she ends up being the candidate at the last minute she'll take it.

Like, say, if Biden wins the nomination and has a heart attack in October next year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

144 "I'm under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it"


Are these real people or voices in your head?
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (cF8AT)


It came to her on Halloween while she walked the Haunted House of Mirrors.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (vEIlU)

145 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

--------

Stormy Daniels in Gangbang Pile-On?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (YhLp3)

146 She will only run if she gets a guarantee that the votes will be counted in a way that she wins no matter the votes, and that the SC will not stand in the way of eliminating the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (ARrEm)

147 I'd seriously like to know who, exactly, has her under enormous pressure to run. Bet she didn't say. Although I've gone back and forth, I think the D primaries are Fire Marshal Biden's to lose. And it will be...interesting...to see how "Mr. Moderate" will perform during the general.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (JoUsr)

148 115 And Steve Schmidt, who's never wrong, says there's a good chance Haley will bump Pence off the Trump ticket.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (sWM8x)

Steve Schmidt is an idiot, and a traitor to conservatives. He's the one who put so much effort into sabotaging Palin. As far as this idiot idea, Trump, Pence, and Haley have each come out and publicly said it's bullshit, and I don't know what more anyone could ask for.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Kpl3J)

149 Hillary Clinton: Wants to run for president

Reality: I'm about to end this woman's whole career

Posted by: Augustine at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (BDZWU)

150 "there's still a couple of days here" ... do candidates have a hard deadline coming up? Or is there some special way to crown Hillary at the convention?


I was thinking if they did a brokered convention (or whatever it is called) they had to choose from candidates that ran .. not just anoint someone new.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Cus5s)

151 140 Sanford out.

I guess that leaves alcoholic, long-forgotten former MA Guv William Weld as the sole remaining Great White Hope of the NeverTrumpers.

SAVE US, WELD! Save the GOPe!
Posted by: mnw at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (Cssks)

========

What about the other guy? The radio show host who doesn't have a radio show anymore?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (q80AH)

152 The people she'd usually tap to run her campaign are running other people's ...

________


I'm surprised she hasn't double-tapped them yet.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Gy1nV)

153 >>It is scary to contemplate that the Clinton's are prime controlling authorities of the Deep State and that if she won she would have sicced the dogs on Trump.

But it's happy to realize how many of those deep state drones have already been removed and how many of self-identified thanks to this impeachment farce.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (ZLI7S)

154 What Hillary needs is Pelosi's job---then she could muscle and murder her way to being POTUS because Hillary cant be elected President.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (wSj0O)

155 I for one, will welcome all the slip and fall videos.
Posted by: wth

---

I wish you were right but -

Oh yeah, that will happen. MSM flacks.

"Why yes, my legs are fine." FDR

The press would cover Hill as accurately as they do RBG today. If anything, it would be worse. She could be dead for the entire four year term and we'd never know it.

As for Bill and sympathy if he passed - I have no doubt Hill would try to off him for just that reason.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Y4EXg)

156 Mitt Romney to take Sanford's place in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (ptqGC)

157 141 She should announce her candidacy at Costco.
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (v0R5T)
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The new Thunderdome is Chuck E. Cheese.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Dc2NZ)

158 Hillary doesn't want to run. She wants to win. And she is not willing to lose a third time.* Typically you have to run to win. She's hoping the Dem field will be so weak and that Trump will have been done in by impeachment, that the party (and the country) will come calling asking her to be the savior. Its unlikely to happen, but if I were her, I'd hope for that scenario. Because getting rejected by your party and the American people for a 2nd time is not a good way to go.

* Note that Adlai Stevenson is remembered fondly in the history books - and that was before Howard Zinn took over the American History book.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (sX1BW)

159 The running that Hillary needs to do is to run to Jesus, for forgiveness of sins and spiritual restoration..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (WI7YS)

160 I'd love to watch Trump whip her ass again.

It was so much fun the last time.

Run Hillz, run!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (k4dH2)

161 When she buys a bunch of fireworks, we'll know she's running.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (v0R5T)

162 Any chance she'll kill Bill for a boost in the polls?

Honestly I think whatever possible sympathy support she'd get from that (a dubious proposition) would be more than negated by people saying "well no Bill in the white house again, why vote for her?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (KZzsI)

163 "I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does. " -Ace

That's not quite true. Millions of people want Hillary to run again, it's just that 90% of them are Republicans.

Posted by: Jon Kasich at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (RYDNl)

164 >>>I guess that leaves alcoholic, long-forgotten former MA Guv William Weld as the sole remaining Great White Hope of the NeverTrumpers.




But, but, but, Joe Walsh!!!

Posted by: Dwight Shrute at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (bkUtD)

165 See also George Soros, who looks more and more like Jabba the Hutt with each passing year.
Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Ycey0)

I honestly think Soros's goal is the destruction of the modern West, and taking over the EU to fashion it into a new Roman Empire in his withered old fascist image.

He wants to be remembered as the guy that made the New World Order happen, the architect of the future, even if he only rules for fifteen minutes before he carks it and passes the crown to his son.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (J+mig)

166 Like, say, if Biden wins the nomination and has a heart attack in October next year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

--

Could you imagine the moment the networks announce that you won and she is your VP?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (Fk2H6)

167 148 115 And Steve Schmidt, who's never wrong, says there's a good chance Haley will bump Pence off the Trump ticket.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 12, 2019 01:16 PM (sWM8x)

Steve Schmidt is an idiot, and a traitor to conservatives. He's the one who put so much effort into sabotaging Palin. As far as this idiot idea, Trump, Pence, and Haley have each come out and publicly said it's bullshit, and I don't know what more anyone could ask for.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Kpl3J)

=========

It's been obvious for at least a year, since the rumors started, that this was bullshit.

And yet some sliver of the Republican consultant class keeps pushing it.

Why do it? Why keep making predictions that you know won't come true? I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (q80AH)

168 My take exactly. She's hoping to be the "unity candidate" after the others all bloody each other.

Realistically, it's her only chance.

------------

This is the smart play.

So she'll probably jump in tomorrow, because these politicians are rarely smart.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (sX1BW)

169 Floating a trial balloon.
---

Anybody else think of Baron Harkonnen?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (Dc2NZ)

170 Her problem is that I see no way for her to lever Warren out of the way. The progs love Warren, she is tailoring everything she says to appeal to them, and even though the Wall Street crowd is unhappy, I don't see them winning in an all out convention fight with the Progs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:17 PM (Kpl3J)


The problem is severalfold. First, Warren polls badly, and polls worse the more exposure she gets. The progs DO love Warren, but no one else does.

Second, Wall Street probably now takes her populist "let's jack up the rich" rhetoric at face value, and isn't coughing up to the Dems. The DNC is broke, in fact, in debt, and it needs every dime it can get.

The confluence of those two things militate strongly against Warren, I suspect. If the Dems are going to lose anyway, why not nominate someone who can at least help replenish the coffers at the DNC? And bugger the progs; there aren't enough of them, or enough money among them, to make a difference. After all, the tail don't wag the dog.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (RFAn/)

171 You have to learn to pace yourself
Pressure
You're just like everybody else
Pressure
You've only had to run so far
So good
But you will come to a place
Where the only thing you feel
Are loaded guns in your face
And you'll have to deal with
Pressure

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyv905Q2omU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

172 Get that Mook kid on the phone, Huma. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (EgshT)

173 Make Shitting Your Pants Great Again!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (88+cf)

174 140 Sanford out.

I guess that leaves alcoholic, long-forgotten former MA Guv William Weld as the sole remaining Great White Hope of the NeverTrumpers.

SAVE US, WELD! Save the GOPe!
Posted by: mnw at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (Cssks)

But wait! There is another! You forgot about the Sekrit Skywalker, Unemployed, probably laying in a gutter somewhere, ex-radio host Joe Walsh!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (Kpl3J)

175 Of course Hillary is running. She didn't marry Bill and cover up for his rapey behavior for all those years to end up never being President. The country is hers damnit!!!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (nAiE/)

176 You know that old saw that says that former presidents/politicians are exempt from prosecution?

That becomes inoperable the day Trump leaves office.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (ARrEm)

177 Dictator Shifty Schiff orders GOP not to talk about whistleblower during impeachment hearings or ELSE.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (wiXsO)

178 She's like an old fire station horse, now relegated to pulling the milk wagon. But at the smell of smoke (election) she chomps at the bit to go racing (lumbering) off towards the fire.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (q1Pj5)

179 If there is anyone with a more frightening "resting bitch face" than Cindy McCain, I don't know who it would be.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (U6f/q)

180 >>>So she'll probably jump in tomorrow, because these politicians are rarely smart.


Thought I heard they have to declare candidacy by next week. If true she's gotta hurry.

Posted by: Dwight Shrute at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (bkUtD)

181 I for one, will welcome all the slip and fall videos.
Posted by: wth

---

I wish you were right but -

Oh yeah, that will happen. MSM flacks.

"Why yes, my legs are fine." FDR

--

Elijah Cummings was apparently scooting around DC in a wheelchair before going to hospice for a while before "suddenly" dying.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (Fk2H6)

182

She'll need a cargo plane to get to campaign events.

And forklift once she gets there.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (vEIlU)

183 Please, please, please oh God, please make it so!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (Gs5TH)

184 "Well, we can still give her California, right John?" - Wolf Blitzer
(one of my fave lines from election night 2016)

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

185 Floating a trial balloon.
---

Anybody else think of Baron Harkonnen?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (Dc2NZ)

---------

We're gonna need a bigger bag of gas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (YhLp3)

186 If only I could afford the $49 VIP fee at Hot Air.

I'm sure the beta cucks are saving all of their good analysis for those pay only blog posts.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (LQtHg)

187 Any chance she'll kill Bill for a boost in the polls?

And then hold the rest of her family at gunpoint to prove she's serious.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (EYsyU)

188 Why would she run? Didn't she say she already won?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (vEIlU)

189 Wet Depends would be a welcome addition to the debate stage.

Posted by: Caliban at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (QE8X6)

190 PRESSURE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFVcvw36k8A&feature=emb_logo

Posted by: FISHBONE at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (AIGhm)

191 With a brand new all graphite form fitting exoskeleton that can support a corpse and make it wave its arms and walk from Boston Robotics, this thing fits under a pantsuit with hardly any embarrassing lumps or bulges. Easily guided by 2 "bodyguards" and powered by small, flat, battery packs from otherwise unserviceable Blackberrys supplemented by discreet power connections in the soles of the shoes to hot spots behind the podium.

Posted by: Billll at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (jFqbj)

192 The Hoveround endorsement would be pretty awesome, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (Fk2H6)

193 179 If there is anyone with a more frightening "resting bitch face" than Cindy McCain, I don't know who it would be.
Posted by: jwest

ol' Cindy hasn't been the same since John passed and she isn't getting that diseased withered dick anymore

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (FZYNt)

194 Any chance she'll kill Bill for a boost in the polls?

-
Well, give the people what they want.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (+y/Ru)

195 172 Get that Mook kid on the phone, Huma. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (EgshT)


----------

We're getting the band back together!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be President of the United States at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (YhLp3)

196 @153

Some have been removed but their are Legions of operatives left.


Hell, the Ukranian impeachment palooza we are living through was ostensibly put into motion by a low level CIA/NSC operative.


How many of these traitors are buried in like ticks?

I would posit, multitudes.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (JLrCS)

197 This is the smart play.

So she'll probably jump in tomorrow, because these politicians are rarely smart.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (sX1BW)


It is the smart play, and you're right, left to her own devices, she'd probably jump in tomorrow, since she's not that clever and she's blinded by her ambition.

The wild card is her advisors. Having farted off sound advice last time, she may give more credence to, e.g., Bill's advice than she did heretofore. And Bill's a lot savvier than she is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (RFAn/)

198 Dictator Shifty Schiff orders GOP not to talk about whistleblower during impeachment hearings or ELSE.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (wiXsO)


Someone, SOMEWHERE, has pics of that pencil neck with a young boy. I'm convinced.


Please, please let the dirt be revealed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (ptqGC)

199 You know a good leg sealing Depends will stop her from running.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable amd Completely Unserious at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (pw+jk)

200 >>>Why would she run? Didn't she say she already won?



Repeat, baby!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (VWp7G)

201 @IvanPentchoukov
There are two versions of the July 10 WH meeting.

Fiona Hill told lawmakers the meeting was abruptly ended by Bolton and that she had a tiff with Sondland after.

Volker and Sondland told lawmakers (and Rick Perry told WSJ) that nothing of the sort happened.

More at Twitchy:

https://tinyurl.com/yfpyh3l3

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (cF8AT)

202 OMG!!
She's never going to go the fu*k away! Never!

And Epstein didn't kill himself. Connection?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (+lVUW)

203 The shrew is not running, but she seeks the attention of the msm to keep her in the public eye. What else has she got but telling everyone how important she is.

Posted by: parker at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (kO3Bf)

204 Scary thought: if Hildawg can get Epstein whacked at her current power
level, can you imagine what she could have done if she won?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter

Busted Hillary 2016 Slogan - "I'm With Her!"
Hot Hillary 2020 Slogan - "Some People just need Killing!"

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (32YRo)

205 The confluence of those two things militate strongly against Warren, I suspect. If the Dems are going to lose anyway, why not nominate someone who can at least help replenish the coffers at the DNC? And bugger the progs; there aren't enough of them, or enough money among them, to make a difference. After all, the tail don't wag the dog.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (RFAn/)

It'll be fun to watch this play out, and I think you've identified the difference in our estimations - I believe that in Democrat politics today, the Progs are the tail, and that tail DO wag the dog!

Either way, the prospect of a knock down drag out fight at the convention between the Progs and the Money Men is almost too delicious to imagine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (Kpl3J)

206 63 55 She's Gollum. Her lust for The Precious is destroying her body and soul, but it's also the only thing keeping her alive.

The bad Orange Man! He take it from us!
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:11 PM (N4xQB)

I don't think she has the leg strength to leap on Trump's back and bite his finger off.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (nNEcr)


Thief! Trumpins! we hates you! We hates you forever!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

207 >>>So she'll probably jump in tomorrow, because these politicians are rarely smart.


Thought I heard they have to declare candidacy by next week. If true she's gotta hurry.

-------------

You don't think the Democrat party would change all its rules at the convention to get their preferred nomination in place?

And if it's a brokered convention, then all bets are off anyway.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (sX1BW)

208 I'm going to send someone out to take a walk in the woods while I think about this.

- Hillary

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (Fk2H6)

209 Why would she run? Didn't she say she already won?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:22 PM (vEIlU)

You're right....she's running for re-election.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (X/Pw5)

210 Anyone here think it would be beneath The Beast to off one of her grandkids for some sympathy?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (ptqGC)

211 I think that the only enormous pressure FAB is under is being able to walk a semi-straight line without falling down.

Posted by: Cheri at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (oiNtH)

212 Dictator Shifty Schiff orders GOP not to talk about whistleblower during impeachment hearings or ELSE.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (wiXsO)

Or else what? He'll extrude his eye stalks at them?

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (Ycey0)

213 How is Hillary gonna explain all the coups she's been involved in? Ukraine, Egypt, Libya, Syria and US?

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (yRAFu)

214 Yes, among the shouts denouncing God, applause for moar baby killing, death penalty proposals for global warming offenses, confiscation of wealth, repeal of The Second Amendment and gun confiscation, laws establishing you must be a vegan and a cross country bovine massacre, burning at the stake for using fossil fuels, declaration that any government Democrats control reigns above the law...Hillary will stumble to the podium to accept the nomination as Chief Witch of the Democrat Coven.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (MIsTo)

215 Trump has meddled in the 2020 election already by violently forcing Mark Sanford to quit the primary. Subverting democracy yet again.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (UB/j7)

216 She's a mentally ill, sickly old bitch. She loves the attention her vacillations get her. She's fat, lazy and entitled.
Posted by: bicentennialguy

----

I'm sorry, you'll have to be a bit more specific:
see also -

The harpies from the spew,
Elizabeth Warren
Bette Midler
Traitorous Jane Fonda
Michael Obama

etc., etc.

Gee, what's the common thread?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (Y4EXg)

217 I can't tell either.

Are so many running because they think it'll be easy to beat Trump?

Or are so many running because they know he can't be beat and they're just setting up 2024?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (gd6je)

218 Could you imagine the moment the networks announce that you won and she is your VP?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (Fk2H6)

Would he be the first president to wear body armor int cabinet meetings?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (Uu+Jp)

219 "Dick Morris is saying the same thing, but he hasn't advised the Clintons since the 90s."


Networks still give this clown airtime?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (OD2ni)

220 >>>You don't think the Democrat party would change all its rules at the convention to get their preferred nomination in place?


True enough. Bernie won the nomination in theory and Hillary stole it. Best part was Sanders didn't even protest. Soy-based pussy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (VWp7G)

221 How come Hillary's motorcade never gets hit by the cartels?

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (yRAFu)

222 148 Servo

Yeah, that pretty much covers it. I'm sure he's REALLY tapped in to the Trump WH now, though. /s

Madison

I don't know anything about the radio show host. He's probably "running" to get his show back. I wonder if guys like that ever bother to file delegate slates & stuff like that? More likely such candidacies are literally not real.

Posted by: mnw at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (Cssks)

223 Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:24 PM (ptqGC)

No; I don't think she'd do that. Get someone to knock off Bill-possibly

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (WI7YS)

224 We're getting the band back together!

*hic*
Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be President of the United States

I'm on a mission from God. She wants me to be president!

Posted by: Hillary! 2020 at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (+y/Ru)

225 I'M STEVE SCHMIDT AND I WANT RESPECT!

Posted by: Steve Schmidt at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (sWM8x)

226 140 Sanford out.
____________

He's out already? Didn't he just declare a week ago?

Wow, I guess time flies when you suck as badly as he does.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (k4dH2)

227 170 The problem is severalfold. First, Warren polls badly, and polls worse the more exposure she gets. The progs DO love Warren, but no one else does.

Second, Wall Street probably now takes her populist "let's jack up the rich" rhetoric at face value, and isn't coughing up to the Dems. The DNC is broke, in fact, in debt, and it needs every dime it can get.

The confluence of those two things militate strongly against Warren, I suspect. If the Dems are going to lose anyway, why not nominate someone who can at least help replenish the coffers at the DNC? And bugger the progs; there aren't enough of them, or enough money among them, to make a difference. After all, the tail don't wag the dog.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (RFAn/)

==========

Ah, but the primary schedule was rearranged to make it easier for a progressive to win. Why else is California on Super Tuesday?

That primary schedule change could mean that Warren rides wins in Iowa, NH, and Nevada all the way to dominating after Super Tuesday.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (q80AH)

228 133
I'm so excited!


Posted by: Bollards Everywhere at November 12, 2019 01:18 PM (IttZ7)
I wouldn't get too excited over that prospect. You are the one that has to prop up by her stale piss stained fart catcher.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (N39Ws)

229 I'm reading about the 1314-1316 Papal election. that's right, no Pope in 1315. talk about a mess. the French ended up confining the cardinals in a convent until they finally agreed on John XXII.

maybe Trump should arrest all the Dem candidates in lieu of a primary

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (66Zn8)

230 She will slide in at the last moment and all superdelegates will go to her. I think Warren is weak. I really could see Hillary jumping in if Tulsi stays in the race. All the Dems but Tulsi are very very low and energy and scare the shit out of their billionaire donors.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (fbInY)

231 203
The shrew is not running, but she seeks the attention of the msm to keep
her in the public eye. What else has she got but telling everyone how
important she is.

Posted by: parker


You are correct, sir.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (T6t7i)

232 47 I can still see them stuffing her like a rug into that van. The look on her face was a realization it was probably all over.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM

Sadly, this is probably true. She's having a serious medical emergency, possibly unconscious, and her final thought is how it affects her presidential ambitions.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (RYDNl)

233 Anyone here think it would be beneath The Beast to off one of her grandkids for some sympathy?
Posted by: Jane D'oh

I don't know about grandkids but Bill definitely.

Posted by: Cheri at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (oiNtH)

234 My next door neighbor is out there with his leaf blower, once again. In 3 inches of snow. Bastid must sleep with the damned thing. So f'n annoying.

Posted by: Notorious BFD, double-naught Rooskie asset at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (EgshT)

235 >>Hell, the Ukranian impeachment palooza we are living through was ostensibly put into motion by a low level CIA/NSC operative.

Yes, and as I said they have all graciously self-identified. They'll be gone soon enough.

Of course this wasn't all going to get fixed in 2 1/2 years. Democrats have been stuffing them into the government for decades and Civil Service laws make it challenging to fire people even when they poop in hallways. But you have to start somewhere and severing the heads off the worst offenders is a good start.

Hell, a couple weeks ago we were mocked for even talking about the Deep State. Now the Deep State has admitted they exist and declared that they are really our rulers.

That doesn't seem to be a sustainable position.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (ZLI7S)

236 Thought I heard they have to declare candidacy by next week. If true she's gotta hurry.
Posted by: Dwight Shrute at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (bkUtD)


Ah, rules shmules. She's a Democrat.

Who was the guy who entered the New Jersey Senate race (IIRC; maybe governor) at the last minute after the odds-on favorite candidate blotted his copybook?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (RFAn/)

237 >>>She will slide in at the last moment and all superdelegates will go to her.


I'm amazed Democrats haven't whined about Superdelegates. Most of these candidates have no chance of winning, ever, because of them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (VWp7G)

238 A presidential run from a jail cell seems problematic.

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (fE1wp)

239 Cunty Rice is out from under her rock again and she has a big knife in her hand.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (Pzzpr)

240 Would he be the first president to wear body armor int cabinet meetings?

Posted by: N.L. Urker

And a neck brace - and sleep with no sheets.

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (32YRo)

241 @212

More than likely he will cut them off, have their comments stricken from the records and generally cause a scene and be his usual deuschebag self.


The hearings are going to be must watch TV just for the spectacle alone.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (JLrCS)

242 >>My next door neighbor is out there with his leaf blower, once again. In 3 inches of snow. Bastid must sleep with the damned thing.


They are good for that.

Posted by: Arnold at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (AIGhm)

243 Just glanced through the Atlantic article about the possibility of Civil War 2.0. Their point was basically that the right needs to accept their inevitable demographic defeat so we can avoid said war.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (N4xQB)

244 97 23 From the sidebar - Zorro was the lamest Cowboy Hero ever written. It's like SoCal wanted a hero, so they made him up.

The only "Zorro" I ever liked was "Zorro, the Gay Blade", and now that's on the Embargo list.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (Kpl3J)

I need to Own this movie because the will try to bury this fine movie.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (iIBQY)

============================

2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits a peso,

all for Zorro, stand up and say so!

Another movie that could not be made today. No 'Blazing Saddles' but definitely had its moments

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (DV/hr)

245 If Lizzie Warren would grow some sideburns she'd win this going away. Sideburns are the essence of gravitas and trust.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (yRAFu)

246 she wants someone to beg he to run. But no one will ever do that. She's a tin of tuna left on the counter for three days in the hot sun.

She has always vastly overestimated her popularity, appeal, and abilities, which are very limited.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (noE+3)

247 217 I can't tell either.

Are so many running because they think it'll be easy to beat Trump?

Or are so many running because they know he can't be beat and they're just setting up 2024?
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (gd6je)

you forgot c) they're running because they're pathological narcissists. Oh, and all that sweet sweet campaign money they get to keep.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (Kpl3J)

248 If the Dems truly believe that Trump will lose (not vulnerable) but will lose, then they will almost certainly nominate Clinton. That's the only way to really undo the 2016 election in their eyes. By having the rightful winner take her place. And its really the only way the Clinton's will allow the Dems to win.

A Dem win that is not Clinton is a Clinton loss. And Clinton Inc is like NeverTrump Inc., better to have the Dems lose than the Clintons.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (sX1BW)

249 A presidential run from a jail cell seems problematic.
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (fE1wp)

Balderdash!

Posted by: Eugene V. Debs at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (7PQBV)

250 Who do you think Hillary would pick for Veep? Certainly not that Team America homunculus Keane...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (Dc2NZ)

251 15 I hope she enters and get pantsed in the primary.

Posted by: overit at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (sI15f)


That is a visual I did not need.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (7vvoJ)

252 Let's face it - for Dems who HATE Trump, isn't she part of how he got elected?

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (noE+3)

253 Zorro was big medicine throughout South America for years. Funny what Hollywood can sell de peeples.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (yRAFu)

254 The only way Hillary would run again is if they drafted her at the convention, and they won't do that because 1) she'll lose, and b) they'll have shown once again how corrupt the party is, only to run another loser. If they're going to lose, why draw attention to their corruption?


Not. Gonna. Happen.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (T6t7i)

255  >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

ZZ Top

Posted by: Thanatopsis at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (vXlpj)

256 249 A presidential run from a jail cell seems problematic.
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (fE1wp)

Balderdash!
Posted by: Eugene V. Debs at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (7PQBV)

Don't go Wobbly now, folks!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (Dc2NZ)

257 247 217 I can't tell either.

Are so many running because they think it'll be easy to beat Trump?

Or are so many running because they know he can't be beat and they're just setting up 2024?
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (gd6je)

you forgot c) they're running because they're pathological narcissists. Oh, and all that sweet sweet campaign money they get to keep.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (Kpl3J)

==========

There is a power vacuum at the top of the Democratic Party.

Whoever wins the nomination, whether they win or lose against Trump, will be able to lay some claim to that leadership.

It's just too bad that no one Democrat is so dominating the field as to make the prospect of entering the race seem daunting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (q80AH)

258 the summary is right, i think. no one really wants her, her staff is committed elsewhere, and the money is already spent. but there's also: she's not physically up to it and she knows it.

Posted by: mjc at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (Pg+x7)

259 What about Whoopie Goldberg as a consensus candidate in case the delegates to Democrat convention end up dreadlocked?

Posted by: Furious George at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (9vQJW)

260 Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 01:28 PM (N4xQB)

Hmmm...
Let me see...
Divide by pi, carry the twelve, multiply by orange...
No. Yeah, sorry guys, it's a no on the servile surrender.

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (Ycey0)

261 229 I'm reading about the 1314-1316 Papal election. that's right, no Pope in 1315. talk about a mess. the French ended up confining the cardinals in a convent until they finally agreed on John XXII.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (66Zn


Wondering if locking all the cardinals in a convent might have contributed to the delay, or did they move the nuns out first?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (kUmUV)

262 Ah, but the primary schedule was rearranged to make it easier for a progressive to win. Why else is California on Super Tuesday?

That primary schedule change could mean that Warren rides wins in Iowa, NH, and Nevada all the way to dominating after Super Tuesday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (q80AH)


Two reasons to move the California primary (which has been talked about for 40 years): first, as you note, to get a hard-left nominee.

The subsidiary reason: to give Kamala Sutra Harris a boost.

You've got to laugh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (RFAn/)

263 Hell, the Ukranian impeachment palooza we are living through was ostensibly put into motion by a low level CIA/NSC operative.

How many of these traitors are buried in like ticks?

I would posit, multitudes.
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM (JLrCS)

Enough that we need to gut the entire foreign service and rebuild from scratch. Wouldn't really hurt us to do it now, since the current crop of weasels can't keep a secret from the Chinese anyway.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (J+mig)

264 262 Ah, but the primary schedule was rearranged to make it easier for a progressive to win. Why else is California on Super Tuesday?

That primary schedule change could mean that Warren rides wins in Iowa, NH, and Nevada all the way to dominating after Super Tuesday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:26 PM (q80AH)

Two reasons to move the California primary (which has been talked about for 40 years): first, as you note, to get a hard-left nominee.

The subsidiary reason: to give Kamala Sutra Harris a boost.

You've got to laugh.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (RFAn/)

============

I will withhold my laughter until Harris places 5th in her home state.

Which is gonna happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (q80AH)

265 Who do you think Hillary would pick for Veep? Certainly not that Team America homunculus Keane...

McAuliffe

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (UB/j7)

266 @235

You speak many truths but we are in a race against time and time is not on our side.

**cue shitty Rolling Stones song.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (JLrCS)

267 Even if she runs, she still won't have someone around to show her how to find Madison, WI on Google Maps.

Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (h4eZh)

268 I still don't know what makes this nasty old whore think she's qualified.

Didn't Hillary lose something like $6 billion last time she was stinking up DC?

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (wo3c/)

269 I hope she enters and get pantsed in the primary. Maybe then she is will slink off into oblivion never to be seen or heard from again.
Posted by: overit at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (sI15f)
++++++++++++++++
Nah. She'll go on a book tour to celebrate "What Happened (Again)?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (e/H31)

270 Ever notice how these former Bushbots pop up right before something is about to hit the fan? Every damn time.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (Pzzpr)

271 If they're going to lose, why draw attention to their corruption?

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Which is why I said they will only nominate her if they assure Trump will lose. Extremely unlikely, but you never know. But Clinton Inc will happily let someone else be the sacrificial lamb.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (sX1BW)

272 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?
______________

Any woman who has ever been f*%$ked by Michael Moore.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (k4dH2)

273 that 'pressure' she feels ? ...

it's her catheter and bag

Posted by: Lloyd Fubeesh at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (f6tGE)

274 why is Steve Schidt still taken seriously? he should be living in obscurity in some west Virginia village, wearing a fake nose when he needs to buy groceries so he doesn't get laughed at. screw this guy in particular.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (66Zn8)

275 ie: Civil War - There's a fascinating story going on that no one in this country is paying attention to, which is a shame because it's really amazing - the Bolivian situation. It's an answer to the question, "What would civil war look like if it broke out in a modern society?" That's where Bolivia is, today.

The old commie President Morales tried to fake an election and make himself President for Life - amazingly, the Bolivian's wouldn't stand for it and after 3 weeks of choas and riots in every city, Morales ordered the Army to intervene - but the Army said "nope, you're on your own, buddy."

So then the crowds grew really ugly, burned down the VP's house, and Morales and most of his top officials resigned and are believed to be fleeing to Mexico. The "Second Vice President of the Senate" is attempting to take charge, because everyone higher then her in the existing government in on the run. Meanwhile, anti-Morales forces are out building road barricades, while pro-Morales demonstrators are building and burning road barricades in the areas that they control. The Army is still refusing to get involved, there is no functional authority anywhere in the country, and no one knows what comes next.

My guess is that the Generals are going to be forced to assume control, whether they want it or not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (Kpl3J)

276 When you think of Cankles

think of "influence peddler"

she's angling for an in with one of the candidates , prolly Lieawatha.

If she runs and loses again, the little she has to peddle will disappear .

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (rpxSz)

277 Ya know who is gonna be a even less charismatic candidate than Hillary? That's right, Chelsea.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (r+sAi)

278 You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

______________

Jeffery Epstein's hyoid

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (5l6gb)

279 46 Bill will need to die so she can garner some sympathy. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (ptqGC)

People keep saying this, and they're dead wrong about her chances. I can't believe anyone thinks that Hillary has loyal guards, much less more of them than Bill does. If he has any faculty for thought, and he does, she needs to fear him far more than vice-versa.

Epstein is dead because of the large numbers of elites he threatened: and that did damage which has permanently maimed American justice in a bipartisan fashion, all while spawning a billion Epstein conspiracy memes. Not because of Hillary's juice.

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (V+8Zu)

280 She's under enormous pressure?
Try Gas-X ,granny.

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (UFgOG)

281 Thought I heard they have to declare candidacy by next week. If true she's gotta hurry.
Posted by: Dwight Shrute at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (bkUtD)

The deadline to sign up for the AL primary was last week, if you miss that, you're probably not running.

I predict Hillary may emerge closer to the convention as a compromise option for delegates should there be any conflict.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (7PQBV)

282 *shart*

hic

Posted by: Hillary at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (Y274z)

283 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?
______________

Any woman who has ever been f*%$ked by Michael Moore.

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And just like that the thread was killed - along with my appetite.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (sX1BW)

284 268 I still don't know what makes this nasty old whore think she's qualified.
_______________

Hillz is certainly old and nasty, but she's not a whore.
Not in the traditional sense.

Nobody would pay to have sex with that.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (k4dH2)

285 they were Avignon era cardinals so maybe the abbess figured her nuns were safe.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (66Zn8)

286 273 that 'pressure' she feels ? ...

it's her catheter and bag
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I knew a guy in the Navy who wore a cath and bag. He would get into drinking contests with his unfair advantage (no bathroom breaks).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

287 Run bitch, run

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracies, Inc. at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (h4eZh)

288 You who knows exactly who Alexandra Chalupa is?

Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)

289 Tucker showed a clip of Warren talking about income inequality and Wall Street "fat cats."
Man, she has a grating voice and goofy mannerisms.

She has no chance against Trump.

Posted by: David Bowie at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (CqE5x)

290 Who do you think Hillary would pick for Veep?


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (Dc2NZ)


Chubbles!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (88+cf)

291 It's hers for the taking. And she's going to choose Castro or Holder for VP

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (U7k5w)

292 Off topic, ace, but have you read The Atlantic piece today by Yoni Applebaum, "How America Ends"? I can't even. Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results (you read that correctly although it is becoming a Frankfurt School-type meme) and accept its permanent role as a junior partner in governance. The piece either is deranged or piss poor propaganda or both.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (iw59Q)

293 I will withhold my laughter until Harris places 5th in her home state.

Which is gonna happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (q80AH)


You're probably right. She's polling at fourth now, and generally is about as popular as explosive diarrhea.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (RFAn/)

294 You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

______________

Jeffery Epstein's hyoid
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (5l6gb)

Jeffrey Epstein didn't break his own Hyoid!

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (7PQBV)

295 My guess is that the Generals are going to be forced to assume control, whether they want it or not.

Posted by: Tom Servo


We should invade.

Posted by: Captain Tug at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (T6t7i)

296 Man, she has a grating voice and goofy mannerisms.

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I'm convinced she is made of cartilage.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (sX1BW)

297 "I can't tell either.

Are so many running because they think it'll be easy to beat Trump?

Or are so many running because they know he can't be beat and they're just setting up 2024?
Posted by: RoyalOil,"


My guess is that people are thinking of jumping because it will be Warren unless something changes. She will definitely lose to Trump. As hard as it is believe, she is less likeable than Hillary. Warren reminds everyone of that annoying shrew that asks "Let me speak to your manager."

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (OD2ni)

298 Running? More of a waddling shuffle at best.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (NWiLs)

299 Someone please get her on the campaign trail ...

I got some sweet ass 19 year old trim to tap
Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (DBwoU)

Oh, you haven't seen her in years. She must've been good.

Posted by: Zombie Epstein at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (z79tQ)

300 You're probably right. She's polling at fourth now, and generally is about as popular as explosive diarrhea.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (RFAn/)

Latest RCP poll has Explosive Diarrhea up +4 over Harris.

Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (h4eZh)

301 Hillary is running Warren's campaign and meme team.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (fbInY)

302 297 My guess is that people are thinking of jumping because it will be Warren unless something changes. She will definitely lose to Trump. As hard as it is believe, she is less likeable than Hillary. Warren reminds everyone of that annoying shrew that asks "Let me speak to your manager."
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (OD2ni)

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My step-grandmother slipped in a Borders and fell on her ass. She threatened to sue the store.

She also looks a whole lot like Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (q80AH)

303 292: Consider the source.

Posted by: Tikkun Olam idiot at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (U7k5w)

304 President Karen?

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (Ycey0)

305 Why do it? Why keep making predictions that you know won't come true? I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (q80AH)


(1) Get attention drawn on themselves and their magic whiteboards as they show all of the convoluted ways their predictions could come true.
(2) Spread F.U.D. out of a sense of righteous hatred at those who have betrayed the consultants.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 01:36 PM (hLRSq)

306 Wow, I can't wait to NOT watch 1-second of the NBC "gender-swapped" Zorro (from the sidebar).

Sweet Merciful Heaven - is there literally nothing Hollyweird cannot screw-up?

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 01:37 PM (NYS7S)

307 Zorro is a really fun book, its well told and a bit more down to earth than you'd expect from the themes. People think its terribly old hat now and derivative but instead its one of those stories which others have derived and stolen from so much that now it seems old hat.

So much so that Hollywood hasn't done a remake since 1940. There were serials and a TV series, there was a (very fine) Italian version made in 1975, but Hollywood hasn't touched the story in over 70 years. They did a sequel of sorts, with Antonio Banderas which was, meh.

So now they are thinking about a Zorro movie, but again, its not the original story, its some girl named Zora (which, I'm told, is slang for er, girl bits in South America, so she's Pussy Galore sort of).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

308 219 "Dick Morris is saying the same thing, but he hasn't advised the Clintons since the 90s."

Networks still give this clown airtime?
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM

Yeah, it's ridiculous!

Posted by: Karl "Always Wrong" Rove at November 12, 2019 01:37 PM (RYDNl)

309 BRB, gotta go drop a Chalupa in the porcelain fryer.

Posted by: Ass Chum at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (Jj+59)

310 Zinoviev Apfelbaum > Yoni Applebaum.

isn't yoni another word for vagina?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (66Zn8)

311 As hard as it is believe, she is less likeable than Hillary. Warren
reminds everyone of that annoying shrew that asks "Let me speak to your
manager."


I call that big talk for a one-eyed fat man. Hillary has achieved metaphysical unlikeability. Lizzie, while quite annoying and unlikable, is still on the earthly plane.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (T6t7i)

312 The deadline to sign up for the AL primary was last week, if you miss that, you're probably not running.

But is there any requirement for a candidate to have run in the primary? Can't the convention choose whomever it wants?

We saw last time that the superdelegates pretty much ignored primary results and gave the nomination to Hillarhoid, so it would seem the primary campaign is simply kabuki.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (RFAn/)

313 I will withhold my laughter until Harris places 5th in her home state.

Which is gonna happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:31 PM (q80AH)

If Harris is smart, which aint, she get out before she gets embarrassed in her home state

the buzzards are already circling, she has so weaken herself

Schitts for brains is the main buzzard

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (rpxSz)

314 307
So much so that Hollywood hasn't done a remake since 1940. There were serials and a TV series, there was a (very fine) Italian version made in 1975, but Hollywood hasn't touched the story in over 70 years. They did a sequel of sorts, with Antonio Banderas which was, meh.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

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I really like The Mask of Zorro. It's just big budget swashbuckling and done pretty well with Anthony Hopkins classing up the joint.

The Legend of Zorro is awful and, I was not terribly surprised to discover, was written by Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (q80AH)

315 If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (RuCB2)

316 Merciful Heaven - is there literally nothing Hollyweird cannot screw-up?
Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 01

Still waiting for the gender swapped Brokeback Mountain.

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (Ycey0)

317 277 Ya know who is gonna be a even less charismatic candidate than Hillary? That's right, Chelsea.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 01:33 PM (r+sAi)
**************
What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Willie Brown's Cum Sponge at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (Y274z)

318 I think Deval Patrick has a better chance than Warren if he jumps in the race.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (WI7YS)

319 Dat Weiner Laptop with dat Insurance Folder the Feds have doe

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (fbInY)

320 She's under enormous pressure?
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Too bad it's not from a car crusher.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (vg8iE)

321 Also from the sidebar - BRAVO! for Rep. Dan Bishop.

We need about 220-more like him.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (NYS7S)

322 Wondering if locking all the cardinals in a convent might have contributed to the delay, or did they move the nuns out first?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (kUmUV)

What, the eight score blondes and brunettes, all between the ages of 16 and 19-1/2, cutoff from the outside world of men? All those spankings took some time you know.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (q1Pj5)

323 O/T and related from the sidebar about the Wahmen reboots..

Why not Reboot the entire Terminator franchise rather than doing the soft reboot in the middle of the franchise?

Make Sarah Connor a vet settling back into civilian life when the T-800/1000 strikes?

And then Kyle Reese comes back to help... plant the seed.. of the resistance.

Connor could have been revamped enough so she's kick ass for a 'woke' audience and have it set for modern time rather than harkening back 30 years for the source.

Tap The Rock or John Cena or someone the new Terminator... And have Arnie as a cameo just as a touchback.

Posted by: Blanco at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (Ay9RF)

324 But is there any requirement for a candidate to have run in the primary? Can't the convention choose whomever it wants?

We saw last time that the superdelegates pretty much ignored primary results and gave the nomination to Hillarhoid, so it would seem the primary campaign is simply kabuki.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (RFAn/)

I'm not saying she won't be nominated, I'm just saying she's not running.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (7PQBV)

325 My guess is that people are thinking of jumping because it will be Warren unless something changes. She will definitely lose to Trump. As hard as it is believe, she is less likeable than Hillary. Warren reminds everyone of that annoying shrew that asks "Let me speak to your manager."
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (OD2ni)

I'm not convinced that Warren is going to be the nominee because she seems like a terrible candidate when she's playing defense because she's got the bullseye on her back as the frontrunner.

Imagine Warren trying to fend off attacks from Sanders, Buttgeig, Harris, and trying to make sense of Biden's incoherent yammering. She'll look flustered and confused when she comes under fire and people are going to think "this person isn't going to be able to beat Trump in the general."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (KUaJL)

326 312 The deadline to sign up for the AL primary was last week, if you miss that, you're probably not running.

But is there any requirement for a candidate to have run in the primary? Can't the convention choose whomever it wants?

We saw last time that the superdelegates pretty much ignored primary results and gave the nomination to Hillarhoid, so it would seem the primary campaign is simply kabuki.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (RFAn/)

=======

If there's no clear majority winner on the first ballot, we're looking at super delegate mania.

Unless they chose the plurality winner, the Democratic Party won't survive the night.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (q80AH)

327 315
If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.

Posted by: Ben Had


Both of the people who knew he was in said "oh, no".

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (T6t7i)

328 For some reason Mark Sanford reminds me of the black face democrat Virginia governor.

Anything related to Hillary immediately brings to mind 'the blob'.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (X8/Nr)

329 PT, in his speech this morning, said under Bush's 8 years wages rose $400; under Obama's 8, $950; under his 2 1/2 years, FIVE THOUSAND $! That is impressive, but you would never know, based on the MSM.

Posted by: Ever at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (ZZDMQ)

330 Somebody keeps drawing cocks and balls on my whiteboard and I'm getting sick and tired of it!

Posted by: Karl Rove at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (sWM8x)

331 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (iw59Q)

Replace United States with Elite Americans, and she's 100% right. Trump's done so well that he doesn't need another election overseen about as fairly as an Iranian vote, and he has tens of millions that have armed up in preparation for this moment. While the Elites are not only concentrated in vulnerable urban centers, but mostly despised by the poor people they rule over.

She's terrified of what will come when the President is re-elected, and she's absolutely correct.

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (V+8Zu)

332 Can the Dems recruit Brian Dennehy? He's as large as Hillary but likable.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (yRAFu)

333 313
If Harris is smart, which aint, she get out before she gets embarrassed in her home state

the buzzards are already circling, she has so weaken herself

Schitts for brains is the main buzzard
Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (rpxSz)

==========

It'd be so delicious to watch the next great Obama embarrassed so fully by her presidential run that she gets primaried out of her senate seat at the next election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (q80AH)

334 "310 Zinoviev Apfelbaum > Yoni Applebaum.

isn't yoni another word for vagina?"


"Vagina" is a nice way to put it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (iw59Q)

335 284 268 I still don't know what makes this nasty old whore think she's qualified.

so Condi's a go ??

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (rpxSz)

336 Posted by: Blanco at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (Ay9RF)

I'm sorry but that would require creativity and leeches don't have any.

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (Ycey0)

337 Bolivia' s gun laws are considered restrictive and they did have some seizure programs. . You have to apply for a license and ultimately that given by the Defense Ministry But hey still have a bunch of guns on civilian hands I think over 200,000. Oh, only about 7,000 of those are "registered". Enough to get sporty. That's before we get to illegal weapons.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (MIsTo)

338 Off topic, ace, but have you read The Atlantic piece today by Yoni Applebaum, "How America Ends"? I can't even. Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results (you read that correctly although it is becoming a Frankfurt School-type meme) and accept its permanent role as a junior partner in governance. The piece either is deranged or piss poor propaganda or both.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:34 PM (iw59Q)

It got published, right?

Posted by: Scores of Starving Free Lancers at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (CqE5x)

339 Mark Sanford must have got stuck in another north Chilean whorehouse.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (66Zn8)

340 testwest


Posted by: tester at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (wtvvX)

341 the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot
accept election results (you read that correctly although it is becoming
a Frankfurt School-type meme) and accept its permanent role as a junior
partner in governance


Ah, The Onion is at it again! Wait...no?

Posted by: Notorious BFD, double-naught Rooskie asset at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (EgshT)

342 "If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.
Posted by: Ben Had"


Thanks for the warning.

Posted by: The AT Trail at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (OD2ni)

343 I don't care if its girl Zorro if the story is good. I mean come on, there's no reason to be a reactionary curmudgeon and just hate something because a gurl is in it.

I hate the reason why they have a gurl in the role, and expect the film to suck, but the concept isn't invalid. I mean, they had a film about a screaming homo Zorro in the 70s back when people weren't so touchy and folks responded by laughing and having fun. It was really funny.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (KZzsI)

344 If Harris is smart, which aint, she get out before she gets embarrassed in her home state

This.

Finishing fourth or worse, fifth in her home state will probably finish any career she might have had on the national stage. Could we get that lucky? The most she could hope for then would be ambassador to Derkaderkastan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (RFAn/)

345 I think Deval Patrick has a better chance than Warren if he jumps in the race.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (WI7YS)

The Cadillac of Governors, "Coupe" Deval Patrick (D-MA), actually worries me more than anyone else in the field so far. Still, he's never really been in a competitive campaign - he beat Rmoney's Lt. Gov. in '06 which was a tough year for Republicans and pretty much cruised to re-election against Chahlie Bakah (yeah, the current DIABLO Governor).

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (NYS7S)

346 Waiting until the last minute to join the race is actually a genius move on her part. The less (most) people see of her the less they hate her. Wait until the last minute to run so people might not remember exactly why they hate her. Pretty smart actually.

Posted by: Christopher Ardis at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (OU4hq)

347
Someone, SOMEWHERE, has pics of that pencil neck with a young boy. I'm convinced.

Please, please let the dirt be revealed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:23 PM


Gerry Studds received a standing ovation for that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (aKsyK)

348 315 If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.
_______________

Quickest, dullest, worst-funded, least-noticed presidential wannabe campaign ever.

It's been mentioned.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (k4dH2)

349 It'd be so delicious to watch the next great Obama embarrassed so fully by her presidential run that she gets primaried out of her senate seat at the next election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:40 PM (q80AH)

I've seen some fools feed at the trough of flattery in my time

but my oh my, she be a pig

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (rpxSz)

350 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat



It's easy to see why the right says dems are guilty of projection in everything they say and do.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (s2OJe)

351 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (Kpl3J)

Mark Steyn commented over the weekend that in 1930 Argentina had a larger economy that the US. They voted to go socialism and here they are today. He described an orderly destruction of their own economy.

Venezuela is taking a harder route.

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (XTiHL)

352 "If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.
Posted by: Ben Had"


Is Cory Booker out yet? And if so, in what sense?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (RFAn/)

353 Warren reminds everyone of that annoying shrew that asks "Let me speak to your manager."
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:35 PM (OD2ni

Worse, she was a College Professor, so like Teachers, she lectures.

She does not expect any pushback on her lectures, just like in a classroom.

Politics don't work that way.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (NgKpN)

354 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results...

That is galactic-level projection right there.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (NYS7S)

355 testwest


Posted by: tester at November 12, 2019 01:41 PM (wtvvX)

passwest

Posted by: Dr. Professor Surfperch, PhD at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (7PQBV)

356 Mark Steyn commented over the weekend that in 1930 Argentina

I'm gonna need some documentation for that claim.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (T6t7i)

357 When you think you still can
but collapse and are tossed in a van
That's a Hillary

Posted by: Priapism at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (2cfUo)

358 All the voices in her head are saying "Run! Hillary, run while you still can!"


And she thinks they are referring to the Presidency.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (NVYyb)

359
The Army is still refusing to get involved, there is no functional authority anywhere in the country, and no one knows what comes next.

My guess is that the Generals are going to be forced to assume control, whether they want it or not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (Kpl3J)

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Maybe, or maybe not.

It's LatAm, so - probability of that is high.

But look at it from a theoretical standpoint, outside of traditionally strongarm dictatorships in the Southern Hemisphere.

In the modern world, federal governments are a chimera... we all pretend they keep things running down the track, when in fact it's illusory. They exist to stuff their corrupt pockets and buy votes, while achieving virtually none of their stated goals.

This is a point brought up by the right during every government shutdown, and it's why shutdowns are always partial these days. They just can't have people know that they don't really fucking do anything besides pump out welfare checks.

The only people who will miss them in the short term are the destitute welfare recipients, and the rest of us don't need them for very much, and are merely encumbered by them.

So in the event of breakdown of federal authority, as long as local governments remain in operation, there are all kinds of possible peaceful outcomes - new elections being one.

Or look at Thailand, for instance.

They had a stretch of many years where there was effectively no national authority with any stability or authority whatsoever. And, what happened? The permanent civil service at the local level continued doing their jobs, the Thai people continued on living their lives, and everyone outside of the political parties simply shrugged at the internecine chaos in the government.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (AzW6q)

360 Didn't Hillary lose something like $6 billion last time she was stinking up DC?
Posted by: Fritz

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Evergreen - That amount of $$ never goes "missing" or is "lost". It's untraceable - Yuge difference.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (Y4EXg)

361 Deval Patrick will be packaged as Obama II. It doesn't matter if he was a terrible Governor. He writes well-as least Obama cribbed from his speech and Dems need the Black vote

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (WI7YS)

362 Dictator Shifty Schiff orders GOP not to talk about whistleblower during impeachment hearings or ELSE.



Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 01:21 PM (wiXsO)

Or else what?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (nAiE/)

363 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results...
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Um, what election result is AppleAss speaking of?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (vg8iE)

364 Gerry Studds received a standing ovation for that.

William "freezer cash" Jefferson got a Standing O when he came back to the chambers, shortly before being arrested and convicted for blatant bribery too. Its like a mark of honor to the Dems to be blatantly, stupidly crooked.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (KZzsI)

365 We saw last time that the superdelegates pretty much ignored primary results and gave the nomination to Hillarhoid, so it would seem the primary campaign is simply kabuki.

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D primary voters don't yet realize their purpose is to just give gentle recommendations to the super delegates. The supers, otoh, do whatever the heck they want.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (JoUsr)

366 What, the eight score blondes and brunettes, all between the ages of 16 and 19-1/2, cutoff from the outside world of men? All those spankings took some time you know.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM


It's what comes after the spankings that takes the time.

Posted by: Sisters Zoot & Dingo at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (2vUDW)

367
To demonstrate her physical fitness she'll carry the corpse of Epstein (who did not kill himself) in a fireman's carry throughout her campaign.

Take THAT, Notorious RBG!

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (wy4/l)

368 331:

"She's terrified of what will come when the President is re-elected, and she's absolutely correct."

I think she's laying the groundwork for somehow invalidating Trump's re-election and then claiming the Right cannot accept election results. It's becoming too widespread of a theme.

They are terrified but apparently this meme is being pushed as an act of transference for some act they will take in response to a Trump win. You are right about what their failure to honor the election results has brought about.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (iw59Q)

369 315 If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.
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Ha! That dumbass never had a chance.

Posted by: William Weld at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (sWM8x)

370 I wonder if Hillary has figured out yet that she can't run a mail server while in public office out of her private shitter.

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (wo3c/)

371 I hate the reason why they have a gurl in the role, and expect the film to suck, but the concept isn't invalid. I mean, they had a film about a screaming homo Zorro in the 70s back when people weren't so touchy and folks responded by laughing and having fun. It was really funny.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:42 PM (KZzsI)

Le Femme Musketeer.

already been done, and yes, it sucked.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (NgKpN)

372 The only enormous pressure on Hillary is at her ankles, which have to support her enormous gunt.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (Z4rgH)

373 388
381 More National Divorce breakaway state news (at least to me): it appears an effort is now underway to create a(nother) breakaway state from Virginia called the State of Appalachia in response to McAuliffe's pledge to make Virginia the "most progressive state in the Union".
Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (OMsf+)

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It's like the runup to the Thirty Years War all over again.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (YhLp3)

Needs more defenestration.

Also: Meetings are the device extroverts use to pummel introverts into submission. The bastids.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

374 When you stumble in
smelling of gin
that's a hillary

Posted by: Priapism at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (2cfUo)

375 354 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results...

That is galactic-level projection right there.
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Not racist, but I'm starting to think Jews have little situational/self awareness.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (yRAFu)

376 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results...

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I'm becoming more and more convinced this asshattery line of BS is meant to provide cover for the biblical fraud that is coming next year.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:46 PM (JoUsr)

377 Deval Patrick is probably offering himself up as a VP candidate, since they need a black face. But he's got a big problem if Warren is the nominee.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:46 PM (Kpl3J)

378 He writes well-as least Obama cribbed from his speech and Dems need the Black vote
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (WI7YS)


Yep. Yet another problem for Warren. She'd probably at least a dozen votes from blacks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:46 PM (RFAn/)

379 Atlantic keeps trying to win back my wife's subscription money, after three years without, and they just sent us an issue entitled "How To Stop A Civil War".


Didn't read it; just tossed it into the trash.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (NVYyb)

380 when your ankles are thick
and prefer puss to dick
that's ahillary

Posted by: Priapism at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (2cfUo)

381 Zorro the Gay Blade came out in 1981 and I thought it was hilarious. But of course back then it wasn't so much "f you Americans" it was just "whee this is silly and will be fun!"

Now they do stuff just to put a thumb in the eye of ordinary people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (KZzsI)

382 Batwahmen, Supergirl, and The Watchmen (The Wokemen) are tanking,

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I don't know what to make of Watchman. Episode 1 seemed to be just offensive SJW bullshit but now I have no idea what's going to happen next. Grandpa is 7th Kav? I don't know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. Although I quite liked it, I found the original movie ambiguous as well.

Posted by: Hillary! 2020 at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (+y/Ru)

383 Saw Jo Jo Rabbit this weekend. At best, two stars. My takeaway, Hitler is still a box office draw.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (yRAFu)

384 "Just glanced through the Atlantic article about the
possibility of Civil War 2.0. Their point was basically that the right
needs to accept their inevitable demographic defeat so we can avoid said
war.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter"

I also read that. I was a little surprised that it actually contained some criticism of the left and their extremism but the article ended up mostly bashing Trump and his supporters. Also a main theme was Republicans must learn to accept electoral defeat (which is laughable given Dems refusal to even admit defeat, much less accept) This seems to be a new talking point that is showing up lately and cannot be a coincidence: Can Republicans learn to accept electoral defeat? This is prep work for massive, blatant fraud in 2020.

Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (MxEKc)

385 Deval Patrick is probably offering himself up as a VP candidate
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I think he's offering to accept Bloomberg's money.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 01:47 PM (NVYyb)

386 Belgium also went without an elected government for awhile. not long ago. just the king and the EU. the sky did not fall.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (66Zn8)

387 H, I, double-L A,
R and Y that's Hillary!
Stumbling down the stairs she's quite endearing,
Drinking till she spews? That gets us cheering!

H, I, double_L A,
R and Y you seeee,
It's a name that a shame never hasn't been connected with
Hillary! That's meeee!!!!

Posted by: HILLARY2020 at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (wtvvX)

388 Her incredible personal deficiencies aside, I just find it so annoying that with all their money the Clintons could have done so much to help people. They could have founded charter schools, funded food pantries, built Habitat for Humanity Homes or any number of others things, but has anyone heard of anything the Clintons did to help people other than themselves or corrupt cronies? I guarantee Trump has done more to help individual Americans than the Clintons ever have.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (WI7YS)

389 370 I wonder if Hillary has figured out yet that she can't run a mail server while in public office out of her private shitter.
Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (wo3c/)


Why not? She did it once.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (RFAn/)

390 45 With all her maladies - and alcoholism - I'm surprised she's lived this long.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (bkUtD)

Hillary might be 70-something but her liver is about 256.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

391
377 Deval Patrick is probably offering himself up as a VP candidate, since they need a black face. But he's got a big problem if Warren is the nominee.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:46 PM (Kpl3J)


Yup. No VEEP for you!

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (wy4/l)

392 'Twas I who is still watching Watchmen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (+y/Ru)

393 BELCH

Posted by: HILLARY2020 at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (wtvvX)

394 Don't tell me the Clinton Foundation ran out of money already ?!

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (koNhm)

395 Gee. Why does the Democrat electoral juggernaut need some late-comers to jump in? Trump is like totally unpopular!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (oVJmc)

396 I just have this feeling that Biden has already scammed the DNC system the way that Hillary did.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (r+sAi)

397 Hillary might be 70-something but her liver is about 256.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to


Look for an unscheduled trip to China in the near future.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (T6t7i)

398 DNC wants NO PART of Clinton Mafia

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (BqBId)

399 "354 Applebaum basically contends the United States may be doomed because the Right simultaneously cannot accept election results...

That is galactic-level projection right there."

Off the charts, but it's becoming a widespread narrative in the left-wing propaganda outlets. The groundwork is being laid for...something.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (iw59Q)

400 New Monmouth Iowa poll

Bootyjudge: 22Biden: 19Warren: 18Sanders: 13

First poll Bootyjudge has led

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (xPl2J)

401
I think she's laying the groundwork for somehow invalidating Trump's re-election and then claiming the Right cannot accept election results. It's becoming too widespread of a theme. 

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:45 PM (iw59Q)

You're right, but they had similar lines before November 2016 too. They knew Trump would have a huge opportunity to challenge the election: and make no mistake, they wanted to steal Michigan BAD. I don't think we'll ever know how Trump forced them to stop counting ballots, but Hilary had to win, yet they stopped.

The sheer amount of contempt the Bloombergs and Applebaums of America are receiving -within- the Democratic Party has to be making them scared out of their minds.

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (V+8Zu)

402 Hillary is like a neutron star.

Neutron stars too are under tremendous pressure. And if you get too close to one, it could kill you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (Ejm1K)

403 400 New Monmouth Iowa poll

Bootyjudge: 22Biden: 19Warren: 18Sanders: 13

First poll Bootyjudge has led
Posted by: Mark1971 at November 12, 2019 01:49 PM (xPl2J)

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Too bad that Iowa is a caucus state and popular vote doesn't mean shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (q80AH)

404 Mrs. Redacted just confiscated my Absolute

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (rpxSz)

405 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (WI7YS)

Same thing with Obama. He could've urged the bruthas to knock off the criminality, the gangs, the drugs, etc. and hit the books and make something of themselves. He had the moral authority with them to do that effectively. In short, to heal a lot of our racial problems.

But did he? No. He chose to pander to them, and to demonize the police.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (RFAn/)

406 Also a main theme was Republicans must learn to accept electoral defeat
(which is laughable given Dems refusal to even admit defeat, much less
accept)


My main theme is that Democrats have to abandon fascism and accept that Republicans are people too. And, they must blow me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (NVYyb)

407 377 Deval Patrick is probably offering himself up as a VP candidate, since they need a black face. But he's got a big problem if Warren is the nominee.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:46 PM

We have a much easier method of getting a black face on the ticket!

Posted by: Ralph Northam, Justin Trudeau, et al at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (RYDNl)

408 when your liver is glass
and pantsuits can't contain your ass

that's a hillary

Posted by: Priapism at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (2cfUo)

409
Mrs. Redacted just confiscated my Absolute
Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (rpxSz)

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Uh-oh. Has she gone Carrie Nation on ya?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (AzW6q)

410 "isn't yoni another word for vagina?"

Ling Cod > Ling Ham

Posted by: J. Random Moron at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (2vUDW)

411 They had a stretch of many years where there was effectively no national authority with any stability or authority whatsoever. And, what happened? The permanent civil service at the local level continued doing their jobs, the Thai people continued on living their lives, and everyone outside of the political parties simply shrugged at the internecine chaos in the government.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:44 PM (AzW6q)

Good point, I can see a lot of the world slipping into that. The only real problems come when some neighbors get sporty and get the idea they can start carving off chunks of territory.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (Kpl3J)

412 Her incredible personal deficiencies aside, I just find it so annoying that with all their money the Clintons could have done so much to help people. They could have founded charter schools, funded food pantries, built Habitat for Humanity Homes or any number of others things, but has anyone heard of anything the Clintons did to help people other than themselves or corrupt cronies? I guarantee Trump has done more to help individual Americans than the Clintons ever have.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (WI7YS)
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If you ask Haitians their opinion of the Clintons, prepare to get your ear bent.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (3Z6pZ)

413 396 I just have this feeling that Biden has already scammed the DNC system the way that Hillary did.
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Not likely. Joe is begging for funding. Hillary owned the DNC cuz she spent four years as SOS Hoovering up every dollar available worldwide. Donating to Biden is like donating to the March of Dimes.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (yRAFu)

414
... has anyone heard of anything the Clintons did to help people other than themselves or corrupt cronies?


Why, yes! They donated their used undergarments -- which are practically holy relics -- to charity for a tax writeoff despite such donations being explicitly denied by charities.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (wy4/l)

415 400 New Monmouth Iowa pole

Bootyjudge: 22Biden: 19Warren: 18Sanders: 13


FIFY

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (rpxSz)

416 I assume her faithful believe the corruption issue is dead. "Lock her up" has led to nowhere, and in fact they feel they have turned the tables. She's the only donk with celeb power. At the end of the day, she will be the nominee.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (O98j8)

417 When she finally kicks off, it is a foregone conclusion that neither Heaven or Hell will take her.

I am guessing she will haunt the JFK entrance to the Whitehouse, forever trying to get back in.

Posted by: JB1000 at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (K2HR/)

418 If you ask Haitians their opinion of the Clintons, prepare to get your ear bent.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (3Z6pZ)

Yes. That was terrible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (WI7YS)

419 I'm with you, Fen. It would be very eye-opening to the shriekers to see a side-by-side of actual beneficence, not collecting other people's money and pretending to give it out (Haiti), of the Clintons vs. Trump. Donald Trump has likely donating gobs of his own money to worthy charities and individuals over the course of his adult life. Without blaring it to the world, or waiting until a news camera is on them.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:51 PM (JoUsr)

420 >>You know who else was under tremendous pressure?

Ooh, I know, I know!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 12, 2019 01:52 PM (ZGrMX)

421 Now that he is out does Sanfords supporter automatically go to Trump now?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 12, 2019 01:52 PM (flINI)

422 421 Now that he is out does Sanfords supporter automatically go to Trump now?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 12, 2019 01:52 PM (flINI)

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Nah, Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:52 PM (q80AH)

423 I still think that she's teasing this to gauge support, not for a run, but so throw her endorsement behind one of the current Dems at the right moment. She'll trade her support for the ability to put her loyalists in key positions, and thus ensure a steady flow of money into the Clinton Foundation.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 12, 2019 01:52 PM (wCmLp)

424 The Conservative case for Preemptively Surrendering in the upcoming Civil War.

Posted by: The Bulwark at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (IttZ7)

425 Any poll that has buttgig on top is a joke

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (KZzsI)

426 The best tell someone's running is weight gain or loss.I

At this rate she's only fit to sumo wrestle Megan Mc or Ana Nav

Posted by: Regular joe at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (6/uwW)

427 Wow, I give myself a D- in grammatical structure @419.

*hangs head in shame*

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (JoUsr)

428 213
How is Hillary gonna explain all the coups she's been involved in? Ukraine, Egypt, Libya, Syria and US?

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (yRAFu)

_______


Who's going to ask her those questions -- besides Trump -- and of course she would dissemble and deflect in any answers anyway.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (LINkS)

429 >>First poll Bootyjudge has led


That guy knows his was around Poll.

Posted by: Arnold at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (AIGhm)

430
To say that the Clintons are grasping and avaricious is to do slight honor to just how far out on those two scales they are.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (wy4/l)

431 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (RFAn/)

I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (WI7YS)

432
256 249 A presidential run from a jail cell seems problematic.
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 01:27 PM (fE1wp)

Balderdash!
Posted by: Eugene V. Debs at November 12, 2019 01:29 PM (7PQBV)

Don't go Wobbly now, folks!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 01:30 PM (Dc2NZ)







ISWYDT

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (kw0bd)

433 Bootyjudge: 22 Biden: 19 Warren: 18 Sanders: 13

So they're throwing their support to a candidate that actively repels black voters? Interesting choice.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (ZGrMX)

434 He could've urged the bruthas to knock off the criminality, the gangs, the drugs, etc. and hit the books and make something of themselves. He had the moral authority with them to do that effectively. In short, to heal a lot of our racial problems
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Umm, Halfricans don't have street cred. Obama's first move was to exile Jesse for noticing Obama was a halfrican and hire Al Sharpton to keep Obama realz.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (yRAFu)

435 the only zorro I ever saw was Zorro the Gay Blade, so I can't really say anything about Zorro-ette

on and on-topic - the brokered Dem convention is gonna ROCK!

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (Rarvo)

436 >>Any poll that has buttgig on top is a joke


His husband just ran off in a huff.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (AIGhm)

437 425
Any poll that has buttgig on top is a joke

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Why? Or is this one of them double entente things?

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (T6t7i)

438 375: We have none. We expect latinos and muslims to love us up for flooding the US with them, and they will accept our POC status. Together we shall crush whitevsuppremacy and raise the downtrodden

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (O98j8)

439 I need popcorn lots and lots of it.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (wneaL)

440 392 'Twas I who is still watching Watchmen.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (+y/Ru)

Have you figured out where the story is going except for whitemenbad? Serious question

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (fbInY)

441 Can Warren gain enough black support to win the nomination? I do not think it is possible to win enough delegates based only on socialist whites. See Bernie in 2016.

Warren is who I would bet on wining at this moment though.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (wGbBR)

442 Hell the child molester in Virginia won the primary election while in prison for sexting kids

I rule nothing out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:54 PM (KZzsI)

443 Mrs. Redacted just confiscated my Absolute
Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (rpxSz)

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Uh-oh. Has she gone Carrie Nation on ya?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (AzW6q)

her mean bubby is expressing itself

I got backups in the basement , hehe

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (rpxSz)

444 Any poll that has buttgig on top is a joke
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM (KZzs

********

He's definately a bottom

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (flINI)

445 Reports: After oral arguments, SCOTUS sounds like it's leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA

Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (3aI0K)

446 Why? Or is this one of them double entente things?

Have you actually ever been to Iowa?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (KZzsI)

447 Hilarious how the msm keeps referring to her and Bloomberg and Biden as moderates. They are all communists. All of them. As in every single one.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (wneaL)

448 Per the sidebar, AEI has a resident skolar transgendered Euroweenie who dislikes Mollie Hemingway with the heat of a thousand flashlights. He demands she stop endangering the holy existence of Eric Ciaramella right now, this minute! And then he stomped his foot.

What an ass. And add AEI to the list of false players in the GOPe list of pigs dispossessed from the trough.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (NVYyb)

449 So Rep Dan Bishop outs Ciaramela. I wonder if the MSM will carry the story or give it their "Epstein Special"

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (G0vdT)

450 >>Warren is who I would bet on wining at this moment though.


Her appeal to Black Voters is what, again?

She gamed the Affirmative Action System. And she is White and Rich.

She gets no love from that community.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (AIGhm)

451 Worse, she was a College Professor, so like Teachers, she lectures.

She does not expect any pushback on her lectures, just like in a classroom.

Politics don't work that way.
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 01:43 PM (NgKpN)

I know someone just like that. Schoolteacher. You can't debate or converse. He just lectures and expects you to take everything as gospel. You challenge any of his facts or assumptions and he loses his shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (NWiLs)

452 Yes, hard to wrap your head around why someone who loves this country might be upset about throwing the borders open to the world so as to almost double the US population in a generation withThird World peasants who will reliably vote those into power who will extinguish our Constitutional Republic foreover.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (koNhm)

453 446
Why? Or is this one of them double entente things?



Have you actually ever been to Iowa?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


I have, and I've been to Indiana as well. So?

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (T6t7i)

454
394 Don't tell me the Clinton Foundation ran out of money already ?!

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 01:48 PM (koNhm


Must have bought a cistern of chardonnay.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (hLRSq)

455 >> AEI has a resident skolar transgendered Euroweenie


There is no such thing as a Transgendered Scholar.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (AIGhm)

456 If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Mark Sanford is OUT.
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Ha! That dumbass never had a chance.

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Fastest knockout since the Sonny Liston/Cassius Clay fight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (+y/Ru)

457 I dressed Jr. Black up as Zorro for Halloween when he was 3. He was so darned cute. I'd ask him who he was and he'd yell, "Zorro!" It didn't occur to me then he really had zero idea who Zorro was. When you're little, you get to be what Mom wants you to be.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (JoUsr)

458 Hillary Clinton Warns the UK She is "Concerned" About Its Future Because of Brexit.

Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (3aI0K)

459 I am gonna ride the poles all the way to the TOP!!

Posted by: Petey Buttgag at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (flINI)

460 445

Which is totally an impeachable offense.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (wneaL)

461 Any poll that has buttgig on top is a joke

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

can we go all phrasing on this ??

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (rpxSz)

462
Same thing with Obama. He could've urged the bruthas to knock off the criminality, the gangs, the drugs, etc. and hit the books and make something of themselves. He had the moral authority with them to do that effectively. In short, to heal a lot of our racial problems.

But did he? No. He chose to pander to them, and to demonize the police.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:50 PM (RFAn/)

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I was relatively certain that Obama would turn out to be what he was, but I had a sliver of hope that I was wrong about that. The man had so much potential to be a good President, if he'd wanted to be.

But - nope. Just the run-of-the-mill lazy ass race-hustling authoritarian punk that so many inner city black pols are in this country.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (AzW6q)

463 450 >>Warren is who I would bet on wining at this moment though.


Her appeal to Black Voters is what, again?

She gamed the Affirmative Action System. And she is White and Rich.

She gets no love from that community.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (AIGhm)

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Like every voting block within a party, they will largely fall in line once she gains real frontrunner status and a clear majority of delegates after Super Tuesday.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (q80AH)

464 I don't know what to make of Watchman. Episode 1 seemed to be just offensive SJW bullshit but now I have no idea what's going to happen next. Grandpa is 7th Kav? I don't know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. Although I quite liked it, I found the original movie ambiguous as well.
Posted by: Hillary! 2020


Watch it while tripping on acid. Yes, even the brown stuff.

Only way to make sense of it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (s2OJe)

465 Billy Wilder movies?

I only know of the one - did Adam Sandler make a sequel?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (C+We0)

466 Drudge is pushing Booty hard

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (fbInY)

467 >>I know someone just like that. Schoolteacher. You can't debate or converse. He just lectures and expects you to take everything as gospel. You challenge any of his facts or assumptions and he loses his shit.


Knock him down.

Sit on his chest.

Grab both of his hands.

Make him hit himself while you ask:

"Why are you hitting yourself!? Why?"

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (AIGhm)

468 Run Tubby Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DOGGFISH at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (lMn1U)

469 451 I know someone just like that. Schoolteacher. You can't debate or converse. He just lectures and expects you to take everything as gospel. You challenge any of his facts or assumptions and he loses his shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (NWiLs)

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Look up stories of how terrible of an instructor Stonewall Jackson was at West Point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (q80AH)

470 219
"Dick Morris is saying the same thing, but he hasn't advised the Clintons since the 90s."





Networks still give this clown airtime?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 01:25 PM (OD2ni)

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You'd be amazed at how far you can get in DC and Hollywood sucking toes ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (LINkS)

471 Hillary Clinton Warns the UK She is "Concerned" About Its Future Because of Brexit.

Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (3aI0K)

Why are you interfering in a foreign election, bitch?

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (NYS7S)

472 >>Drudge is pushing Booty hard

Well, yea.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (ZLI7S)

473 When you're little, you get to be what Mom wants you to be.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun


Yeah, that really sucks.

Posted by: James Younger at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (T6t7i)

474 445 Reports: After oral arguments, SCOTUS sounds like it's leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA
Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at November 12, 2019 01:55 PM (3aI0K)
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In one story, they say a ruling isn't expected until June 2020. Really? One the earlier cases in this term and they're going to wait until the end of the term to announce? Crazy.

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (G0vdT)

475 Any poll that has buttgig on top is a joke
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM


Are you saying he should be on the bottom?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (2vUDW)

476
458 Hillary Clinton Warns the UK She is "Concerned" About Its Future Because of Brexit.
Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (3aI0K)


Did she invite Boris Johnson to a summit in Fort Marcy Park to discuss matters?

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (wy4/l)

477 "384 "Just glanced through the Atlantic article about the
possibility of Civil War 2.0. Their point was basically that the right
needs to accept their inevitable demographic defeat so we can avoid said
war.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter"

I also read that. I was a little surprised that it actually contained some criticism of the left and their extremism but the article ended up mostly bashing Trump and his supporters. Also a main theme was Republicans must learn to accept electoral defeat (which is laughable given Dems refusal to even admit defeat, much less accept) This seems to be a new talking point that is showing up lately and cannot be a coincidence: Can Republicans learn to accept electoral defeat? This is prep work for massive, blatant fraud in 2020."

Fraud was my first thought, but it may be achieved through the courts. Something is in the works.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (iw59Q)

478 Have you figured out where the story is going except for whitemenbad? Serious question

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No. I have no idea what's going to happen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (+y/Ru)

479 I don't see anyone on the Republican bench who has the balls to follow him.

Dan Bongino.

Posted by: Rohrshach at November 12, 2019 01:58 PM (7LI+H)

480 462

That was my wife too. I was freaking out over Obama she was all just give him a chance he may be a great united blah blah. That lasted about 3 months even for her.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (wneaL)

481 445 Reports: After oral arguments, SCOTUS sounds like it's leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA
Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

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DACA is an Obama EO, not actual law. Why is it even in question that Trump can't do away with it with his own EO?

Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (prSvo)

482 465 Billy Wilder movies?

I only know of the one - did Adam Sandler make a sequel?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (C+We0)

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*doesn't know if troll comment or if WitchDoktor is actually confusing Billy Wilder for Billy Madison*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (q80AH)

483 In one story, they say a ruling isn't expected until June 2020. Really? One the earlier cases in this term and they're going to wait until the end of the term to announce? Crazy.


I guess giving the million or so Dreamers time to get hitched real quicklike

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (Rarvo)

484 Her 2020 campaign slogan:

I'm with vodka!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (BBBoi)

485 @463
Sort of. But at much lower turnout rates.
When Lord Obama ran I lived in Brooklyn and there were lines around the block at the polling places and Caribbean women dancing their way to the booths.
Not so much for Scoldy White Warren.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (koNhm)

486 466 Drudge is pushing Booty hard
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (fbInY)

the phrasing meter just redlined

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (rpxSz)

487 My Favorite today?

Hillary all pissed off that the Brits won't release the Report on Russian interference in British politics.

You know, the report that STEELE helped create to oust Boris?

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (NgKpN)

488 I was relatively certain that Obama would turn out to be what he was, but I had a sliver of hope that I was wrong about that. The man had so much potential to be a good President, if he'd wanted to be.

But - nope. Just the run-of-the-mill lazy ass race-hustling authoritarian punk that so many inner city black pols are in this country.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (AzW6q)


Exactly my take. I had hoped for better, but was not surprised when he turned out as he did.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (RFAn/)

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (7LI+H)

490 >>Like every voting block within a party, they will largely fall in line once she gains real frontrunner status and a clear majority of delegates after Super Tuesday.


I don't see it. Sorry. She has no appeal other than promising to give shit away. Shit that the Black Population has all heard before. The last time from a Half Black White Guy.

I don't think she gets them.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (AIGhm)

491 I have, and I've been to Indiana as well. So?

And, in your opinion, it is remotely plausible in any sense of the word that a homosexual man "married" to another man is going to be their first choice for president of the United States??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (KZzsI)

492 Sock be gone

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (7LI+H)

493 Sanford is out??

SANFORD IS OUT??????

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (wtvvX)

494 I have never seen Hillary say any word or perform any deed that did anything other than fuel her personal political ambitions. It's sad really.
Her being consists of only two things, whatever will to power drove her before hooking up with Bill (in the words of Dennis Miller, that marriage is so much about convience there's a Slim Jim dispenser on the nightstand) and, after after a lifetime of cleaning up after Bill's bimbo erruptions and then being sent out to lie to the world about Monica she MUST get the Presidency to wipe out her humiliation of being used by Bill.
It would be worthy of pity if she in any way resembled a decent human being.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (szD6V)

495 DACA is an Obama EO, not actual law. Why is it even in question that Trump can't do away with it with his own EO?


because Our Betters?

and cruel and unusual punishment?!

and the general welfare clause?!?

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (Rarvo)

496 There is no such thing as a Transgendered Scholar.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:56 PM (AIGhm)

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Why the H8?

Posted by: Association Of Transgendered Reseident Skolar Euroweenies at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (NVYyb)

497
Look up stories of how terrible of an instructor Stonewall Jackson was at West Point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies


Unless I am mistaken, the only place where Jackson served as an instructor was at VMI.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (wy4/l)

498 I'm in shock.

My husband just called to tell me the wife of a friend of his died over the weekend of pancreatic cancer.

We ran into them after church a month ago, and shared a table for brunch. She was in great spirits and looked healthy.

Omg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (ptqGC)

499
DACA is an Obama EO, not actual law. Why is it even in question that Trump can't do away with it with his own EO?
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Cuz Goodthink White Virtue.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (yRAFu)

500 *doesn't know if troll comment or if WitchDoktor is actually confusing Billy Wilder for Billy Madison*


Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (C+We0)

501 Hell the child molester in Virginia won the primary election while in prison for sexting kids

I rule nothing out.

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This. Although, after 2012, I took the stance of nevermore ruling out the unimaginable. Things like that VA kiddie raper just solidify my belief that you can't rely on the good senses you imagine people to have. Because they don't have them.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 02:01 PM (JoUsr)

502 498: Sorry Jane, that cancer can be fast.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 02:01 PM (O98j8)

503 And, in your opinion, it is remotely plausible in any sense of the word
that a homosexual man "married" to another man is going to be their
first choice for president of the United States??

A fraction of Iowans are as desperately woke as they are in other states. One might as well ask if I think Iowans will nominate a grating Marxist or another Marxist who's never had a real job. We're through the looking glass.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 02:01 PM (T6t7i)

504 Her 2020 campaign slogan:


I'm with vodka!


Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (BBBoi)


I AM vodka!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:02 PM (wtvvX)

505 Very sad to hear the words Jimmy Carter and Recovering in the same news blurb.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 02:02 PM (AIGhm)

506 275 ie: Civil War - There's a fascinating story going on that no one in this country is paying attention to, which is a shame because it's really amazing - the Bolivian situation. It's an answer to the question, "What would civil war look like if it broke out in a modern society?" That's where Bolivia is, today.

The old commie President Morales tried to fake an election and make himself President for Life - amazingly, the Bolivian's wouldn't stand for it and after 3 weeks of choas and riots in every city, Morales ordered the Army to intervene - but the Army said "nope, you're on your own, buddy."

So then the crowds grew really ugly, burned down the VP's house, and Morales and most of his top officials resigned and are believed to be fleeing to Mexico. The "Second Vice President of the Senate" is attempting to take charge, because everyone higher then her in the existing government in on the run. Meanwhile, anti-Morales forces are out building road barricades, while pro-Morales demonstrators are building and burning road barricades in the areas that they control. The Army is still refusing to get involved, there is no functional authority anywhere in the country, and no one knows what comes next.

My guess is that the Generals are going to be forced to assume control, whether they want it or not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:32 PM (Kpl3J)

Now imagine this with 320 million people in a nation that spans a continent and you'll see why I discourage the civil war talk, despite indulging in it occasionally myself when despair takes over.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:02 PM (RD7QR)

507 Billy Wilder and Billy Madison are different people?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2019 02:02 PM (BBBoi)

508 Wow, I give myself a D- in grammatical structure @419.

*hangs head in shame*
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 01:53 PM


We've seen worse, dear.

Posted by: AoSHQ Copy Editors at November 12, 2019 02:03 PM (2vUDW)

509 lly Wilder and Billy Madison are different people?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2019 02:02 PM (BBBoi)


And so is Billy Budd.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:03 PM (hLRSq)

510 Like every voting block within a party, they will
largely fall in line once she gains real frontrunner status and a clear
majority of delegates after Super Tuesday.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (q80AH)

But not the same volume. My husband votes at exactly 645am. In deep blueville with plenty of aliens he was #695ish in 08 an 12. In 2016, #42. I vote at noon. In 08 and 12, I waited in line for 15 min. In 2016 I walked in and there was no one there in front of me.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 02:03 PM (nRWPy)

511 And, in your opinion, it is remotely plausible in any sense of the word that a homosexual man "married" to another man is going to be their first choice for president of the United States??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (KZzsI)


"You have a husband? So ... you're the ... wife? Oh. OK."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 02:03 PM (RFAn/)

512 435 the only zorro I ever saw was Zorro the Gay Blade, so I can't really say anything about Zorro-ette

on and on-topic - the brokered Dem convention is gonna ROCK!
Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 12, 2019


*
*

I recall dimly the Disney series of the early '60s with Guy Williams -- yes, the father later of the Robinson family in Lost in Space. As Don Diego, he wore a thin little David Niven-lite mustache -- and he was dynamite. Those white teeth flashing below that black mask as he whirled his sword to slash "Z" across your shirt!

Marx, I think it was, had an action figure of Zorro with his black horse Tornado, with detachable sword and cape and mask and hat. I remember that better than the show.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (Ejm1K)

513 Hillary's new slogan. "Vote for Me, my panties are larger than a garrison flag "

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (MIsTo)

514 Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (ptqGC)

Sorry to hear that, Jane. What a shock for everyone It's often a very quick thing. Will pray for her family and friends-for comfort and strength from God.

Also, if you care to- send a prayer request to apaslo@ hotmail.com. She is handling the prayer list.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (WI7YS)

515 A fraction of Iowans are as desperately woke as they are in other states.

And that fraction is much smaller than in, say Pennsylvania. Nowhere near enough to even potentially put him on top of their choices. Not even close. He could win the caucus because it has virtually nothing to do with popularity or who they'd vote for, but that doesn't mean even a large minority of Iowans want him as their first pick for president.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (KZzsI)

516 Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (fbInY)
*********
He has most of his life

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (BqBId)

517 Mark Steyn commented over the weekend that in 1930 Argentina

I'm gonna need some documentation for that claim.

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That does not seem plausible. Even with the great depression.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (sX1BW)

518 Jimmah may have been America's worst President until Obama, but he was far from its worst human being. He was, at bottom, a well meaning fool. He did great harm, and might have done even more. But don't wish the man ill personally.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 02:05 PM (koNhm)

519 But - nope. Just the run-of-the-mill lazy ass race-hustling authoritarian punk that so many inner city black pols are in this country.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 01:57 PM (AzW6q)

Exactly my take. I had hoped for better, but was not surprised when he turned out as he did.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (RFAn/)

I hadn't hoped for better, and not just because I'm a cynical bastard. I'd been following the information about him that was out there but not getting publicity or traction at the time. What I expected was bad, but he was even worse than that.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 02:05 PM (NWiLs)

520 As for open borders, every migrant forever will always be seen as the Jews on the St. Louis for American Jews. No matter who they are and why they come, they will die if we say no. Not every Jew board the St Louis died, a quarter did, but it doesn't matter, the sin will never be expunged.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 02:05 PM (O98j8)

521 Now imagine this with 320 million people in a nation that spans a continent and you'll see why I discourage the civil war talk, despite indulging in it occasionally myself when despair takes over.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 02:02 PM (RD7QR)

We have state governments. Though I think the sieges of cities may involve cannibalism inside.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 02:05 PM (O+iVW)

522 Top 600!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 02:06 PM (88+cf)

523
Sanford is out??

SANFORD IS OUT??????
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:00 PM (wtvvX)





Yeah. He took a hike.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2019 02:06 PM (kw0bd)

524 DACA is an Obama EO, not actual law. Why is it even in question that Trump can't do away with it with his own EO?

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Well, you see the Commerce Clause only allows you to go so far and its not a tax so you have no standing, but woah, taxing power.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at November 12, 2019 02:06 PM (sX1BW)

525 OT: An Observation.

Pixar character developers are booty-centric. I
noticed Bo Peep has junk in the trunk and then I thought, so does Elasti-Girl.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 12, 2019 02:06 PM (Dc2NZ)

526 VOTE HILLARY!

SHE'S GOT A BIG TENT!!!

WHICH SHE WEARS!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:06 PM (wtvvX)

527 Hillary honestly expects to get the nomination in a brokered convention when none of the current clown car participants can collect enough delegates to get the nomination. That is her game plan, and why she keeps releasing dirt on each clown as they begin to become front runners.

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2019 02:06 PM (7LI+H)

528 MSNBC Panel Wants Dems To 'Dramatize' Impeachment Hearings with Crying Witnesses

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And kangaroo masks! Don't forget the kangaroo masks!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 02:07 PM (+y/Ru)

529 And that fraction is much smaller than in, say Pennsylvania. Nowhere
near enough to even potentially put him on top of their choices. Not
even close.


And yet he won the poll. Is the poll wrong? I haven't the foggiest idea, but simply dismissing it because you dislike him isn't very convincing.

Posted by: pep at November 12, 2019 02:08 PM (T6t7i)

530
I hadn't hoped for better, and not just because I'm a cynical bastard. I'd been following the information about him that was out there but not getting publicity or traction at the time. What I expected was bad, but he was even worse than that.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 02:05 PM (NWiLs)

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As did I. But, I had a small hope that the give-and-take of national politics would force him toward the center, as with Clinton.

In which case, with his initial popularity and his race, he had more potential than Clinton ever had.

However, I now know that since that time, the Uniparty takeover was complete and the fedgov simply enabled all of his worst impulses.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 02:08 PM (AzW6q)

531 Hillary Who?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 02:08 PM (xptlg)

532 Please Hillary please!

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 12, 2019 02:08 PM (GXoKW)

533 MSNBC Panel Wants Dems To 'Dramatize' Impeachment Hearings with Crying Witnesses

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And kangaroo masks! Don't forget the kangaroo masks!

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If history is a guide, baby talk by a 55 year old women does not go over as well as one would think.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:08 PM (sX1BW)

534 Isn't Iowa a caucus state?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:09 PM (yRAFu)

535
528 MSNBC Panel Wants Dems To 'Dramatize' Impeachment Hearings with Crying Witnesses
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And kangaroo masks! Don't forget the kangaroo masks!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 02:07 PM (+y/Ru)


And cite "muh beach people" as your sounding board of trusted advisors for your most troubling ethical quandaries. It's a proven winner!

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:09 PM (wy4/l)

536 Will no one rid us of this troublesome Beast.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (FTlwv)

537 ... and not just because I'm a cynical bastard.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 02:05 PM


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (2vUDW)

538 NOOD

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (N4xQB)

539 MSNBC Panel Wants Dems To 'Dramatize' Impeachment Hearings with Crying Witnesses


Why exactly would witnesses cry?

"... and then, I heard him on the phone ... (breaks down sobbing) ... and he ordered the pizza with anchovies!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (RFAn/)

540
534 Isn't Iowa a caucus state?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 02:09 PM (yRAFu)


The caucus comes first, IIRC, but then there is an election of some sorts a month or so later.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (wy4/l)

541 Sen. Mazie Hirono: Believe In Climate Change As Though It's A Religion And Not A Science

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Yeah, Corny, that's what you've got to do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 02:10 PM (+y/Ru)

542 Here's how its gonna go down:

Last Democratic debate. The curtain rises on the candidates.

Who have all hung themselves on their podiums.

Hillary enters stage left to "Don't Stop Believin'".

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (wtvvX)

543 She'll wait to see who (if anyone) receives an indictment. If someone who has the goods on her gets the nod, she'll enter the race. If not...she won't.

The basis for that is should someone have the slightest hope that she can take the White House they will hold off on dropping the bomb on her.

Posted by: Orson at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (cl9MN)

544 38 I think Hillary wants to run but the problem is, see, no one else does. The people she'd usually tap



!

Posted by: Vince Foster at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (Vy7tf)

545 Jimmah may have been America's worst President until Obama, but he was far from its worst human being. He was, at bottom, a well meaning fool. He did great harm, and might have done even more. But don't wish the man ill personally.

I agree, other than his virulent racism, he was a man who tried to do the right thing and often in his life worked for good (such as his work with Habitat For Humanity) but between him and Bill Clinton, it looks like he's going to be the first to hop the twig.

Is the poll wrong? I haven't the foggiest idea, but simply dismissing it because you dislike him isn't very convincing.

Good thing I didn't. I proved why that poll is a pile of worthless trash, as I stated from the beginning. I guess maybe you want it to be true? But its not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 02:11 PM (KZzsI)

546 Iowa? Caulk is like paste, right? So everyone can bend over, and I'll caulk *ss.

I got this.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (2vUDW)

547
Mark Steyn commented over the weekend that in 1930 Argentina

I'm gonna need some documentation for that claim.

-----------

That does not seem plausible. Even with the great depression.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 02:04 PM (sX1BW)








Not in the '30s, but in the post-WWII era. Basically, when Peron seized power.

https://tinyurl.com/stz3224

I read this book for an economics course many years ago. Still have it on the bookshelf, and I really need to break it out again. My memory is that it was excellent.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (kw0bd)

548 "MSNBC Panel Wants Dems To 'Dramatize' Impeachment Hearings with Crying Witnesses."


They think having America's intelligence professionals crying and describing how OrangeManBad left them 'literally shaking' at his sabotaging of US foreign policy is going to improve public perception of their case?

Well okey-dokey then.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 02:12 PM (hLRSq)

549 If Trump wrote another EO undoing the DACA EO that would be bad optics so send it to the Supreme Court so they can fuck us all in the butt. Then he can cut a deal with the Dems like he said.

Seriously, who is advising him on Immigration and deportation?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (fbInY)

550 My precious.... Must have my precious...

Posted by: Constantine XI at November 12, 2019 02:13 PM (yiAMj)

551 Best I could find on the Mark Steyn comment had Argentinian GDP per capita vs US topping out at 80% and was at about 70% by 1930. I think he tried to summarize this article into a one sentence comment.

https://www.ft.com/content/778193e4-44d8-11de-82d6-00144feabdc0

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 02:14 PM (XTiHL)

552 Wants to? More like absolutely dying to! Her ego demands it. Ace is 100% spot on, nobody else wants her to is her problem. I bet $$$ she has oppo research going against the current Dem field as we speak.

Posted by: Matt at November 12, 2019 02:17 PM (xpMJm)

553 Jimmy Carter: History's Greatest Monster

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (QQ+il)

554 "Why do it? Why keep making predictions that you know won't come true? I don't get it."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 01:20 PM (q80AH)

Something I noticed about political punditry many years ago: nobody really cares about wrong predictions. Sure, you get "Punditry Points" for stuff you get right of course, but you get **MORE** points for creative predictions that drive discussion even if they're eventually proven wrong. Because this is the real point of political punditry: to fill TV time and column space. The News Maw must be fed.

Posted by: I Have Questions at November 12, 2019 02:19 PM (BvNzB)

555 DACA is an Obama EO, not actual law. Why is it even in question that Trump can't do away with it with his own EO?

Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 01:59 PM (prSvo)

Cause Hawaiian judges.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 02:24 PM (nAiE/)

556 When she is in a rest home, 90 years old and eating pureed meat and vegetables with custard for dessert, she's still going to be trying to run.

Posted by: Nancy at November 12, 2019 02:27 PM (HK9hf)

557 Best part of the Bolivian chaos? Burning down the VP's house. Coming soon to a blue shithole soon.

Posted by: free tibet at November 12, 2019 02:34 PM (WWVeC)

558 I don't know why she isn't 50 points behind.

Posted by: torabora at November 12, 2019 02:37 PM (Y274z)

559 Her chronic drunkenness and Parkinson's says "no."

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at November 12, 2019 03:36 PM (xZjSg)

560 She insisted that she wanted to hug Meghan Markle. Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (xZjSg)

Former CNN/WaPo Schlump Howie Kurtz Attacks Mollie Hemingway for Committing Journalism

I'm sure he's just following the Bill Sammon NeverTrump liberal PC line on this, though.


Appearing on Fox News' The Daily Briefing, Monday afternoon, Kurtz told host Dana Perino that he didn’t think it was "the role of the media to disclose the identity of the whistleblower."

....

He went on to argue--without evidence--that there had been "no independent reporting that this is the guy, despite what some partisan sites are saying."

RCI however is part of the Real Clear Foundation, a nonpartisan 501(c3) news organization.

Howard Kurtz should have a word with Tom Bevan, who is at Real Clear Politics and also a FoxNews contributor frequently appearing on Special Report, about whether his organization is "partisan" and to be disqualified from any consideration by the liberal media (which includes the news division of Fox, including Howie Kurtz).

He should also talk to A.B. Stoddard, another former FoxNews contributor, who was also at Real Clear.

Deb Heine continues:


"Even if we did have independent reporting, I don't see why the media should be baited into naming somebody because I think it violates the spirit of the Whistleblower Protection Act,” Kurtz added.

But the Whistleblower Protection Act bars agency authorities from taking or threatening to take retaliatory action "against any employee or applicant because of disclosure of information by that employee or applicant." It does not bar the media from naming a "whistleblower" who makes allegations against a sitting president as Democrats ramp up impeachment efforts.

Here's what Mollie Heminway should do:

First, she should stop appearing on Howie Kurtz, period. Kurtz -- and many of the other Fox show hosts -- need Mollie Hemingway a lot more than they need her.

She should remind them of that.

Let them try to pull ratings with Special Guest Bari Weiss.

Second, she should start talking to One America News Network.

A lot of people would drop Fox like a bad habit if Mollie Hemingway joined them in a more extensive capacity. I would.

Meanwhile, a whistleblower complaint has been filed against the whistleblower, and against his lawyers (including Disney Princess Hotness Evaluator Mark Zaid), for raising money for their impeachment op on a GoFundMe and permitting foreign donations which would Interfere With the American Political Process.

A newly filed complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off House Democrats' impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page.

The complaint, which was filed last week and obtained by Fox News, alleged the donations from roughly 6,000 individuals "clearly constitute" gifts to a current intelligence official that may be restricted because of the employee's official position pursuant to 5 CFR 2635.203 and other statutes. To date, the GoFundMe has raised over $227,000.

The complaint also raised the possibility that some of the donations may have come from prohibited sources, and asked the ICIG to look into whether any "foreign citizen or agent of a foreign government" contributed.

...


Fox News reported in September that the nonprofit Whistleblower Aid worked with the whistleblower's attorneys at the Compass Rose Legal Group to start the GoFundMe.





Posted by: Ace of Spades at 11:56 AM




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1 First?

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (Zm+LZ)

2 not First?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (q80AH)

3 LOL get fucked

Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (KNsKs)

4 So I guess the play is to completely ignore the fact that the MSM news cycle since Trump was sworn in has been driven by **leaks** of classified documents and conversations?
I guess some leaks are more valid than others.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 11:59 AM (bDqIh)

5 Whistle Blower Act similar to the Bill of Rights in that it prevents the Government, not private corporations.

Easy.

Name the traitor!

Posted by: nip at November 12, 2019 11:59 AM (Izot6)

6 #3 That's pretty rough, steevy, just because Someguy beat you to first.

Hey. He did beat us to first.

Screw you, Someguy!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (Dh1wo)

7 Top ten.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (t6XCL)

8 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (1XAal)

9 When does all the discussion stop and the action start?

Posted by: Zombie John McVain, Build The Dang Fence!! at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (NVYyb)

10 Howie Kurtz is a Star Fucker.

Period.

He's not a Journalist and he is not Objective.

He is Groupie.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (AIGhm)

11 eeni meeni
jelly beany
the spirits of the whistleblower act are about to speak!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (Dh1wo)

12
Corn pop was here

Posted by: Corn pop at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (1XAal)

13 The Whistleblower Act? That's the thing that was amended a month earlier specifically to allow rumor mongering to qualify as whistleblowing specifically for the Trump show trial, right? Yeah, wouldn't want to violate the spirit of that.

Posted by: JSchuler at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (ySdHR)

14 I'd really love to know which MSM reporters published classified info leaks provided by. . . the so-called whistleblower.

Please tell me why he gets press protection by the rest of Trump's team can be smeared with unauthorized leaks at any time.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (bDqIh)

15 Is there any evidence to suggest that Howie Kurtz is NOT self pleasuring partnering himself?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (cqNba)

16 Howie Kurtz doesn't have a clue what the media is supposed to do. Why they heck is he portrayed like some wise sage of journalism?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (xfb67)

17
Farts!
Panda farts !

Posted by: Yo! at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (1XAal)

18 Never trust a grown man who goes by "Howie."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (ptqGC)

19 is it bad that I just want all these coup plotters and impeachment actors shot?

Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (G546f)

20 18 Never trust a grown man who goes by "Howie."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (ptqGC)

===========

"Can you trust me to make you laugh?"
-Howie Mandel

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (q80AH)

21
She likes the boys in the band,
She says I am her all time favorite...

Posted by: Yo! at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (1XAal)

22 Howie Putz.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (X/Pw5)

23 Hey Howie, that thing you're blowing.

It's not a whistle.

Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (h4eZh)

24 Never trust a grown man who goes by "Howie."


hey!

Posted by: Howie Long at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (QQ+il)

25 Howie's favorite avocation is trading Blumpkins for Mushroom Canapes in Coat Rooms around the greater DC area.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (AIGhm)

26 Government secrets are no longer to be revealed by the media as it is not their job.

What, does he think a Democrat is in the White House?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (PPbDD)

27 >>>Second, she should start talking to One America News Network.


Easily the most important sentence in this post. It would automatically hoist OANN into prominence, and would bleed viewers from Fox - which should be bleeding viewers anyway.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (VWp7G)

28
Schlump. Not quite a momzer, but more than a meesekeit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (zBaqJ)

29 OANN is free, isn't it? Pluto tv?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (lPXYt)

30 Eric Ciamarella didn't kill Epstein.

Probably.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (Ndje9)

31 So, did Dana Perino just nod blankly? She reeks of the Deep State Bush family.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (ptqGC)

32 >>>13 The Whistleblower Act? That's the thing that was amended a month earlier specifically to allow rumor mongering to qualify as whistleblowing specifically for the Trump show trial, right? Yeah, wouldn't want to violate the spirit of that.


Bill Sammon has literally forbidden Fox news division personnel to report on that, even those who personally confirmed the story.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

33 OANN is subscription only

Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (G546f)

34 Disney Princess Hotness Evaluator Mark Zaid

As Glenn Reynolds would say: "Harsh. But Fair."

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (1XNk8)

35 >>>31 So, did Dana Perino just nod blankly?

what else would she do?

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

36 >>>So, did Dana Perino just nod blankly? She reeks of the Deep State Bush family.


Heh, heh, you said "Bush."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (VWp7G)

37 "Farts!
Panda farts !"

Reminds me, one can purchase Unicorn Poop (Rainbow colored plops of marshmallow) in many dollar stores.

They are mailable.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (cqNba)

38 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (arJlL)

39 >>alleged the donations from roughly 6,000 individuals "clearly
constitute" gifts to a current intelligence official that may be
restricted because of the employee's official position pursuant to 5 CFR
2635.203 and other statutes. To date, the GoFundMe has raised over
$227,000.


Of course they're laundering payoffs via GoFundMe.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (bDqIh)

40 Did Kurtz ever post a single tweet condemning CNN's so-called fact checkers when they doxxed random people just for making funny GIFs? Repeatedly?

He can go Find himself in the Alps.

Posted by: Another Anon at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (b15fD)

41 nodding blankly is kind of Dana Perino's jam

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

42

"Take my life. PLEASE!"

- - Henny Hangman


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (zBaqJ)

43 Grow a spine, Dana. And ease off the Botox.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (ptqGC)

44 The Spirit of The Law?

OK, Howie. Get out your Ouija Board and let's ask that Spirit.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (AIGhm)

45 27 >>>Second, she should start talking to One America News Network.


Easily the most important sentence in this post. It would automatically hoist OANN into prominence, and would bleed viewers from Fox - which should be bleeding viewers anyway.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (VWp7G)

Tucker goes to OANN. Fox is couple of employee away from being MSNBC with hotter women.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (lPXYt)

46 Its a blizzardo out there !

Cold too !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (arJlL)

47
I wish somebody would blow my whistle.

Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (f1Vqw)

48 44 The Spirit of The Law?

OK, Howie. Get out your Ouija Board and let's ask that Spirit.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (AIGhm)


Rush meets Marianne Williamson?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (zBaqJ)

49 Liberals: Releasing publicly available information about our political opponents is not doxxing!


Also Liberals: Releasing publicly available information about our political operatives is doxxing!

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (APnjM)

50 alleged the donations from roughly 6,000 individuals "clearly constitute" gifts to a current intelligence official that may be restricted because of the employee's official position pursuant to 5 CFR 2635.203 and other statutes. To date, the GoFundMe has raised over $227,000.


Of course they're laundering payoffs via GoFundMe.
Posted by: Lizzy


One would think the IRS would be interested in that.

One would be wrong.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (s2OJe)

51 >>>Grow a spine, Dana. And ease off the Botox.



Mffph mppffh, mmmfff muuunnmm.

Posted by: Dana Perino at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (VWp7G)

52 I think the gist of all of it is "everything is legal if the purpose is to remove Trump from office. Anything Trump does to defend himself is illegal."

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (Wmf3G)

53
Say, did not obAma turnoff the credit card thingy so anyone could donate?

Posted by: Yo! at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (1XAal)

54
"Take my life. PLEASE!"

- - Henny Hangman


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (zBaqJ)

this is really about me, isn't it!

Posted by: Epstein, who didn't hang himself at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

55
How is it not "a story" when the "whistleblower" is a partisan fraud in collusion with the Democrats and a co-Conspirator in a coup?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (IKwjm)

56 what else would she do?
grrrr grrrrrr woof woof grrrrrr

Posted by: jasper at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (Dh1wo)

57 >>>Tucker goes to OANN. Fox is couple of employee away from being MSNBC with hotter women.



Fox can keep Hannity, though.

Posted by: Dana Perino at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (VWp7G)

58 Howie did it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (aKsyK)

59 Second, she should start talking to One America News Network.
A lot of people would drop Fox like a bad habit if Mollie Hemingway joined them in a more extensive capacity. I would.

---------------

Part of the "Reason Family Cord-Cutting Solution" was beginning a subscription to OANN.

$5 / month, it's practically in the weeds as far as recurring costs go, and it's money well spent.

We lost FNC when we ditched cable. Haven't missed it.

Posted by: reason at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (q/kmn)

60 Perino's anodyne personality reflects her long time job as a spokesperson for powerful people. Her credo was to be as bland and inoffensive as possible and never let your own personality overshadow that of the person for whom you serve as mouthpiece. She did that for so long it became her personality.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (1XNk8)

61 I heard rumors that even Christine Blasey Ford found the Whistleblowers statements to be somewhat non believable.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (cqNba)

62 is it bad that I just want all these coup plotters and impeachment actors shot?
======

You're very kind.

I imagine various awful torture scenarios for them.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (vg8iE)

63 Off, Botox-frozen sock!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (VWp7G)

64 Fox News is basically close to becoming CNN if they lose Tucker and a few others like Lou Dobbs. CNN the Coomer News Network.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (lPXYt)

65 >>
I think the gist of all of it is "everything is legal if the purpose is
to remove Trump from office. Anything Trump does to defend himself is
illegal."



Yup. This.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (bDqIh)

66 47


I wish somebody would blow my whistle.

Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (f1Vqw)
Hmm, Bill Kristol likes cruises.
Katie Hill likes cruises and advertises herself for hookups.Coincidence?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (N39Ws)

67 "A newly filed complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General
(ICIG) alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off
House Democrats' impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by
indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly
anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page."




I'm not holding my breath that the ICIG that broke all kinds of protocol and allowed the complaint to go forward is going to care. He probably kicked in some money himself.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (4thlk)

68 What about the spirit of the influence-peddling laws?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (Ndje9)

69 I don't get OANN, so I hope Tucker doesn't go there.

I hear it's good, but OANN is still niche-market

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (Kpl3J)

70 "Can you trust me to make you laugh?"
-Howie Mandel


Not in the last 20 years or so.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (qc+VF)

71 Perino's anodyne personality reflects her long time job as a spokesperson for powerful people. Her credo was to be as bland and inoffensive as possible and never let your own personality overshadow that of the person for whom you serve as mouthpiece. She did that for so long it became her personality.
========

No, she really has no personality.

Posted by: Jasper at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (vg8iE)

72 50 alleged the donations from roughly 6,000 individuals "clearly constitute" gifts to a current intelligence official that may be restricted because of the employee's official position pursuant to 5 CFR 2635.203 and other statutes. To date, the GoFundMe has raised over $227,000.


Of course they're laundering payoffs via GoFundMe.
Posted by: Lizzy


One would think the IRS would be interested in that.

One would be wrong.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (s2OJe)

Better, its payment foe espionage. He released classified sensitive information to those who were not supposed to have said information.

And is being paid for it.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (NgKpN)

73 64
Fox News is basically close to becoming CNN if they lose Tucker and a few others like Lou Dobbs. CNN the Coomer News Network.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (lPXYt)
I'll listen to Fox occassionally, watch it when Trump has a rally. That is it. They are CNN lite

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:10 PM (N39Ws)

74

President Trump is speaking now.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2019 12:10 PM (IKwjm)

75 OT, but I have to leave (so please forgive the too early post)

The EU top court just issued a final ruling requiring Israeli made products will have to carry a warning label (presently from "disputed" areas, referring to the settlements, but we know this ultimately means from the river to the sea). The last time European nations required Jews to wear warning labels it didn't work out so well.

Never again?

https://tinyurl.com/yej8aa4k

Posted by: Zombie John McVain, Build The Dang Fence!! at November 12, 2019 12:10 PM (NVYyb)

76 nodding blankly is kind of Dana Perino's jam
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

--------------

*nods in soft, silent agreement*

Posted by: Dana Perino at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (q/kmn)

77 dang McVain sock

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (NVYyb)

78 alleged the donations from roughly 6,000 individuals "clearly constitute" gifts to a current intelligence official that may be restricted because of the employee's official position pursuant to 5 CFR 2635.203 and other statutes. To date, the GoFundMe has raised over $227,000.


Of course they're laundering payoffs via GoFundMe.
Posted by: Lizzy


One would think the IRS would be interested in that.

One would be wrong.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 12:07 PM (s2OJe)

Better, its payment foe espionage. He released classified sensitive information to those who were not supposed to have said information.

And is being paid for it.
=====

I mean, no reasonable prosecutor....

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (vg8iE)

79 The more they try to hide this, the more people get curious about the whistleblower and want to know all about him. This is simple human behavior as observed.

They aren't really good at this.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (hLRSq)

80 And it appears the GOP's reading comprehension is as bad as the Donk's.


Also there seems to be a leaker in the upper sanctums of the GOPe brain trust as some memo purporting to be their strategy for defending the President.


What a fucking clown show this party is.


We need another party stat.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (JLrCS)

81 70
"Can you trust me to make you laugh?"

-Howie Mandel



Not in the last 20 years or so.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (qc+VF)
No deal.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (N39Ws)

82 Pelosi unchained: not sure if it's real news or not:

https://tinyurl.com/yhlmgukn

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (Wmf3G)

83 Howie is a priest in the Temple of Journalistic Godhood. He can lick my hairy scrotum.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (RD7QR)

84 Better, its payment foe espionage. He released classified sensitive information to those who were not supposed to have said information.

And is being paid for it.
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:09 PM (NgKpN)

-------

Well now. That sorta sounds like a quid pro quo.

Posted by: cornbred at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (OXzwU)

85 Take away FNC's Saturday night lineup and I really don't watch it at all anymore. Sometimes I watch The Five on Youtube so I can fast-forward Juan.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (1XNk8)

86 http://bit.ly/2pgnbNi
*******
Complaint: Impeachment Whistleblower Uses GoFundMe to Enrich Himself

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (BqBId)

87 80
And it appears the GOP's reading comprehension is as bad as the Donk's.





Also there seems to be a leaker in the upper sanctums of the GOPe
brain trust as some memo purporting to be their strategy for defending
the President.





What a fucking clown show this party is.





We need another party stat.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:11 PM (JLrCS)
So they can come over to it and destroy it like they did the GOP? See Tea Party movement for reference.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (N39Ws)

88 corn pop, clean your room or be grounded.

Posted by: Pop Corn Pop at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (vqIkG)

89 I wish somebody would blow my whistle.

Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (f1Vqw)


I knew quite a few accomplished flutists in my day.

Posted by: Zombie Brian Piccolo at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (q1Pj5)

90 -
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Kurtz -- and many of the other Fox show hosts -- need Mollie Hemingway a lot more than they need her.

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Early Value-Rite day?

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 12:13 PM (pMGkg)

91 "Even if we did have independent reporting, I don't see why the media
should be baited into naming somebody because I think it violates the
spirit of the Whistleblower Protection Act," Kurtz added.


NYT publishes classified info on its front page. 'Journalists' cheer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 12:13 PM (oVJmc)

92

Kurtz has always been a cuck.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2019 12:13 PM (IKwjm)

93 You know how to blow, don't you, Howie?

You just put your lips together like my wife's on Paolo's dick and blow.

Posted by: bill kristol dressed as lauren bacall at November 12, 2019 12:13 PM (Dh1wo)

94 I'll say one thing for Fox. They're not afraid of showing support for our military, or celebrating religious holidays.

You'll never see that at CNN and MSDNC.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:13 PM (ptqGC)

95 Kurtz is a fucking partisan leftist tool. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. Fox has gone loony tunes left. I quit fox about the same time I quit the other networks. Fuck em all.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 12, 2019 12:14 PM (0OmEj)

96 >>>58 Howie did it?


no, howie was a rock. But he choked.

Posted by: that guy doing the thing from the thing at November 12, 2019 12:14 PM (PbpT7)

97 President Trump is speaking now.
pretty sad it is only on CNBC and not on FOX.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 12:14 PM (n13/j)

98 When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less.

Posted by: Howie Dumpty at November 12, 2019 12:14 PM (88+cf)

99 Snowing in SEPA. I'm not quite ready for this.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:14 PM (RD7QR)

100 >>>94 I'll say one thing for Fox. They're not afraid of showing support for our military, or celebrating religious holidays.


Jake Tapper also "supports the troops," whenever he needs some good PR. People call it "Jake going to VETCON One" when he gets into trouble.

It's a pretty cheap bit of marketing by Tapper-- and Fox.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:15 PM (PbpT7)

101 When has the Press followed 'the spirit' of anything in favor of a breaking news story?

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 12:15 PM (Q5ALd)

102 Emoluments!

He's collecting go fund me for what?

To allow him to do better investigative whistle-blowing while he's on the job?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 12, 2019 12:15 PM (O8SrN)

103 What? A whistle blower going after a whistle blower? Who could have seen that coming

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (w+eSh)

104 I heard Never-Trump Neville say the corruption charges against Biden were "debunked". Sorry, Arthel--they are un-debunkable.

There is no non-corrupt way to take your kid to China on Air Force Two and leave with a $1.5 payoff. Or brag on tape about firing his prosecutor. Tell Paul Ryan, lady--the jig is up.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (Ndje9)

105
Snowing in SEPA. I'm not quite ready for this.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to


HOW DARE YOU!!!

Posted by: Greta Thumbnail at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (aKsyK)

106 So they can come over to it and destroy it like they did the GOP? See Tea Party movement for reference.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (N39Ws)

First it was the Perot's Reform party. They destroyed them.

Then, the Taxed Enough Already party, which started with the same issues as the Reform folks. Coopted and destroyed.

Now the Trumpeters. Who are dismissed and denigrated by both the enemy and GOP party elite.

Every iteration however, has gotten angrier.

What comes next will not be pretty.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (NgKpN)

107 @ 82 Pelosi said "We will shut down not just the Senate smoking lounge, but
their cafeteria and their bath house. The Roman Empire fell from within.
The Senate will follow."


This should be burning skull material. The Speaker Of The House is calling for the end of American political institutions. You may commence the shooting, with her blessing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (NVYyb)

108 Snowing in SEPA. I'm not quite ready for this.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:14 PM (RD7QR)

Did that yesterday. Welcome to it.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (88+cf)

109 Ace, yesterday Fox and Friends had a swearing in of new US citizens on the plaza. They also celebrated the Marine Corps birthday.


Jake Tapper just mouths platitudes and BS.


I'll take what I can get.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (ptqGC)

110 -
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I'll say one thing for Fox. They're not afraid of showing support for our military, or celebrating religious holidays.
...



Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:13 PM

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Standard issue cuck-oflage.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 12:17 PM (pMGkg)

111 O/T a little, from Reason:

The Daily Northwestern Apologizes to Students for Reporting News That Triggered Them


A newspaper staffed by the country's most famous journalism school says it shouldn't have covered a Jeff Sessions event.


https://tinyurl.com/twjlssp

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (WqPYg)

112 I also thick the spirit and letter of the wb law doesn't apply to potus policies

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (w+eSh)

113 82 Pelosi unchained: not sure if it's real news or not:

https://tinyurl.com/yhlmgukn
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (Wmf3G)

Sad to say, I suspect that's a total bullshit site. Not sure if they're leftist or just making up stuff for the fun of making it up. Another story on the site claims that Dinesh D'souza has died from auto-erotic asphyxiation. (no, he's very much alive)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (Kpl3J)

114
How many divisions does Pelosi have? Axing for a fiend...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (zBaqJ)

115 I love how the Dems are frantically throwing HUGE amounts of Schiff at the wall to try and get something to stick.

Guess Howie's OK with that

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (zV8CN)

116 89
I wish somebody would blow my whistle.



Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (f1Vqw)


I knew quite a few accomplished flutists in my day.


Posted by: Zombie Brian Piccolo at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (q1Pj5)

I prefer the sound of a Rusty Trombone

Posted by: Shep Smith at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (N39Ws)

117 107 @ 82 Pelosi said "We will shut down not just the Senate smoking lounge, but
their cafeteria and their bath house. The Roman Empire fell from within.
The Senate will follow."

This should be burning skull material. The Speaker Of The House is calling for the end of American political institutions. You may commence the shooting, with her blessing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (NVYyb)

It's a fake news site.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (Zm+LZ)

118 Quick question: Had Kurtz mentioned Jeffrey Epstein's name much on his program?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (bDqIh)

119 28
Schlump. Not quite a momzer, but more than a meesekeit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (zBaqJ)

So is a singular meesekeit a mousekeit?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (RD7QR)

120 Former CNN/WaPo Schlump Howie Kurtz Attacks Mollie Hemingway for Committing Journalism
.........

The word is Pounces.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (so+oy)

121 I think debunking is Democrat for damning

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (w+eSh)

122 Heh. I'd kinda pay good money to see Mollie go up against the View coven, if someone could duck-tape Whoopi's and Joy Behar's pie holes shut for a few minutes.


I'd love to hear Meggie Mac try to get into an intellectual wrestling match with Mollie.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (ptqGC)

123 Isn't it odd that law firms with the name "ROSE" always seem to be involved in shit associated with Dems and Clinton?

No. No, it really isn't.

Posted by: pogoka at November 12, 2019 12:20 PM (y1Gwl)

124 The Daily Northwestern Apologizes to Students for Reporting News That Triggered Them
A newspaper staffed by the country's most famous journalism school says it shouldn't have covered a Jeff Sessions event.
https://tinyurl.com/twjlssp
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (WqPYg)

The only reason this doesn't really matter anymore is that not a single one of those "Journalism" students in that program will ever work anywhere besides a Starbucks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:21 PM (Kpl3J)

125 Howie the Ponce, pounced.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 12, 2019 12:21 PM (u6xw0)

126 The folks at Military Phony send us their work on Ty Kevin Hampe. Hampe lives in Greencastle, Indiana and is 56 years old as of November 2019.

Hampe makes many claims, including: U.S. Army Staff Sergeant, Desert Storm Veteran, awarded the Combat Infantry Badge (CIB) w/ star to denote second award, a Bronze Star and served for 20 years. He also appears to have attended two universities at once.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=92603

Posted by: SMH at November 12, 2019 12:21 PM (RU4sa)

127 If something is "debunked" then it has been investigated. And if the dems investigated Biden, then they violated the sanctity of the election.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 12:22 PM (xfb67)

128 82 Pelosi unchained: not sure if it's real news or not:

https://tinyurl.com/yhlmgukn
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (Wmf3G)

Oh my, is there tape out there?

Was on CSpan but they may cover it up.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:22 PM (NgKpN)

129 106
So they can come over to it and destroy it like they did the GOP? See Tea Party movement for reference.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (N39Ws)



First it was the Perot's Reform party. They destroyed them.



Then, the Taxed Enough Already party, which started with the same issues as the Reform folks. Coopted and destroyed.



Now the Trumpeters. Who are dismissed and denigrated by both the enemy and GOP party elite.



Every iteration however, has gotten angrier.



What comes next will not be pretty.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (NgKpN)

You are correct. The Tea Party was asking nicely. The Trumpeters is a fist being pounded on the table shouting "Look at me!!".
Failing to heed these, which is what is happening, will certainly be disruptive, if not kinetic.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:22 PM (N39Ws)

130 That Cindy McCain bit in the sidebar has me pissed off.

She and Meggie Mac keep talking about Crash's "character" and PDT's lack of it.

So I guess an example of Crash McCain's "character" was coming home from the Hanoi Hilton to a loyal wife and family, and abandoning them for a wealthy bimbo beer heiress.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:22 PM (ptqGC)

131 " not a single one of those "Journalism" students in that program will ever work anywhere besides a Starbucks."

We always have openings for 'Lot Personnel'

Rates are same as in town.

Posted by: Truck Stops of America at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (cqNba)

132 Of all the history of whistleblowers through time, this is the only one I have ever seen the press desperate to keep from being spoken in public. I mean, everyone knows the name already, but now its like Jehovah, you dare not say it or stones start flying. Its ridiculous

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (KZzsI)

133 Zombie Mike Wallace would piss all over any whistleblower that would impugn the holy calling of journalism.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (y7DUB)

134 Here's how Wikipedia describes OAN:

"One America News Network, also referred to as One America News, is an American right-wing to radical right wing pay television news channel launched on July 4, 2013, owned by Herring Networks, Inc."

Where does one see this network? I have never seen it on cable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (so+oy)

135 >>>So I guess an example of Crash McCain's "character" was coming home from the Hanoi Hilton to a loyal wife and family, and abandoning them for a wealthy bimbo beer heiress.


he also fucked his best friend's wife and broke up their marriage

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (PbpT7)

136 @NewsBreaking 21 seconds ago

BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill


He's going to spend more time hiking...

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (cF8AT)

137 I'd love to hear Meggie Mac try to get into an intellectual wrestling match with Mollie.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (ptqGC)
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Eh, Meggie will win with the view crowd, easily, through her constant, "But orangemanbad" schtick.

In fact, being in the presence of so much denial and stupidity tends to make one shut up and wander away, because there's no way to penetrate that much stupidity.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (qC1Sy)

138 Here is why the Sources Say crap drives me crazy:

All of Our Betters know who the sources are.

All of them. I mean, everyone in DC appears to be sleeping with each other and talking about everything under the sun with each other, so I'm sure they all pass along who is the Sources Say.

Scooter Libby was sent to jail when everyone in town knew it was Richard Armitage who was the source.

May the chupacabras commence carnal relations with them post haste.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (mf5HN)

139 It's been deemed debunked. Now, next order of business . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (q1Pj5)

140 Mollie should submit her resume and full picture portfolio to me. Because I'm good like that.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (MIsTo)

141 That Cindy McCain bit in the sidebar has me pissed off.

She and Meggie Mac keep talking about Crash's "character" and PDT's lack of it.
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A drunken, pillhead hag and her fat daughter. They think they're so damn much - they're just white trash with money.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (vg8iE)

142 Between this and the Sprite commercial, I've had just about enough lefty drivel for today. The world has collectively lost its goddamned mind. I'm gonna make like a good little righty and do some work.

Carry on Ron-Tards.



Posted by: dananjcon at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (u6xw0)

143 Where does one see this network? I have never seen it on cable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (so+oy)

I know it's not on Spectrum. Don't know about DirecTV.

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:25 PM (cF8AT)

144 This is perfectly rational if you consider the media to be part of the government

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at November 12, 2019 12:25 PM (Eg9+v)

145 "Can you trust me to make you laugh?"
-Howie Mandel

Not in the last 20 years or so.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg

So, no Deal?

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 12:25 PM (32YRo)

146 Is there any evidence to suggest that Howie Kurtz is NOT self pleasuring partnering himself?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (cqNba)

I doubt kurtz gets pleasure from anything...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:25 PM (8D42x)

147 Howie Putz always has a look on his face like somebody doinked him in the squeakhole.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:26 PM (MIsTo)

148 I remember Kurtz's stupid Reliable Sources on CNN where he looked for bias but never could find any and wouldn't call anyone out. only on the left apparently. he seems to be able to find it on the right.

Posted by: x at November 12, 2019 12:26 PM (nFwvY)

149 Here's how Wikipedia describes OAN:

"One America News Network, also referred to as One America News, is an American right-wing to radical right wing pay television news channel launched on July 4, 2013, owned by Herring Networks, Inc."

Where does one see this network? I have never seen it on cable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (so+oy)

---
The lefty trolls hit that Wiki article hard. One section is labeled "George Soros smears" and describes how OANN "falsely claimed" that Soros collaborated with Nazis and sponsored migrant caravans. WTF? Those things are provably true.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 12:26 PM (N4xQB)

150 >>
Heh. I'd kinda pay good money to see Mollie go up against the View
coven, if someone could duck-tape Whoopi's and Joy Behar's pie holes
shut for a few minutes.



Eh, there's not much entertainment value because they mob unpopular guests - interrupt them, all talk over them at once. Don Jr. was great because he managed to trigger them in the bits of conversation that he was able to get out.
It's kinda like going on the Bill Maher show, when a conservative-ish person makes a decent point Bill will then make a non sequitur joke/repeat a tired slogan and derail the conversation. "Yeah, the cartels are violent, but we're putting kids in cages and they're literally dying!!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:26 PM (bDqIh)

151 Twitter handle I Capped Corn Pop
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Well, sure, after I had beat him to a bloody pulp.

Posted by: Manly Joe Biden at November 12, 2019 12:26 PM (Pu/Kw)

152 So I guess an example of Crash McCain's "character" was coming home from the Hanoi Hilton to a loyal wife and family, and abandoning them for a wealthy bimbo beer heiress.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:22 PM (ptqGC)


That pinch faced homewrecker probably gulled the stupid fuck into taking Keating's filthy cash because her suds distribution system had more holes than one of the Mav's fuselages.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (y7DUB)

153 Debunked means you are over the target.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (lPXYt)

154 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (KZzsI)

That both Facebook and Twitter will delete any mentions of the name?

When it is perfectly legal for a private citizen to talk about this subject?

Very very scary.

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (NgKpN)

155 Here's how Wikipedia describes OAN:

"One America News Network, also referred to as One America News, is an American right-wing to radical right wing pay television news channel launched on July 4, 2013, owned by Herring Networks, Inc."

Where does one see this network? I have never seen it on cable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (so+oy)

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"Radical right-wing" == in the middle of commercial breaks, the station will air quick 60-second vignettes on various founding fathers, historical figures, and the first 10 Constitutional amendments comprising the Bill of Rights.

How radical.

Posted by: reason at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (q/kmn)

156 If the whistleblower had nothing to hide, he would be willing to testify publicly.

If he is so sure he is saving the Republic from Trump, then he should be proud that we know his name--not hiding.

And this bullshit about "death threats" needs to be put down hard.

In the last ten years, there's been exactly two credible death threats.
The Steve Scalie assassin--who the secret service and capital police ignored
And the Muslim who tried to kill Pam Geller--egged on by the FBI

So they can fuck right off with their "death threat" shit

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (gd6je)

157 Sanford needed a brazillion and all he got was an Argentinian.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (Ndje9)

158
I'll give you a rusty trombone if you give me a rusty trumpet.

Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (f1Vqw)

159 The EoP (Enemy of the People) Media believe they're an unelected 4th branch of government whose purpose is to work arm in arm with the alphabet agencies to reign in anyone who doesn't toe the Swampist line. The 1st Amendment gives their nasty little guild cover even as they use accusations of "hate speech" to silence everyone who disagrees with them. I agree, we ain't voting ourselves out of this mess.

Posted by: cornbred at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (OXzwU)

160 OT- Obama's buddy, two time MA Governor Deval Patrick is thinking of entering the Dem Pres race. Deval Patrick gave that state the largest single tax increase in MA history, I believe. What a wonderful choice for Pres./sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (WI7YS)

161 OANN could not offer the big bucks, but Mollie and Tucker and even Hannity (wonder what contracts they have with FOX) .. could maybe get paid in shares of the company. Depends how they are structured, but some sort of stock payment (even if it is privately held?) is how many in Dell and Google became millionaires, a few times over.


They could become the Chick-fil-A of the media world ... rising to prominence despite the media attacks on their Christian ethics. Or maybe OANN could just go public ... but that might interfere with their future plans, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (Cus5s)

162 Except for 8pm through, maybe, 11pm (Eastern), FNC is virtually indistinguishable from CNN and MSDNC. I concur with the suggestion that MZH and the like should start talking only to OANN.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (DU2N9)

163 WTF? Those things are provably true.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter
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Only if we say so.

Posted by: MSM at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (Pu/Kw)

164 So, did Dana Perino just nod blankly?

what else would she do?

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

summon Jasper?

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (8D42x)

165 "BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill"

He was running?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (hLRSq)

166

President Trump: The other side (Dem candidates) seem to think factories can run without energy.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (IKwjm)

167 That both Facebook and Twitter will delete any mentions of the name?

When it is perfectly legal for a private citizen to talk about this subject?

Very very scary.
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (NgKpN)

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Has anyone tried it yet?

Posted by: reason at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (q/kmn)

168 >>>A drunken, pillhead hag and her fat daughter.

What a terrible thing to say in the middle of John McCain's funeral.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (PbpT7)

169 136 @NewsBreaking 21 seconds ago

BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill

He's going to spend more time hiking...
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM

Who?

Posted by: 99% of Americans at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (RYDNl)

170 I'll give you a rusty trombone if you give me a rusty trumpet.
Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (f1Vqw)
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Rusty trumpet or rusty strumpet?

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (qC1Sy)

171 Where does one see this network? I have never seen it on cable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (so+oy)

I know it's not on Spectrum. Don't know about DirecTV.
Posted by: Tami

.............

Found this on their facebook page:

One America News network is a national TV news network airing on Verizon Fios, channel 116. AT&T U-verse, channel 208, and CenturyLink prism, channel 209. We also stream on Amazon Fire TV, Roku, and Vivicast Media Channel 16. One America News Network is a new credible source for national and international headlines. An independent, cutting edge platform for keeping our viewers informed.

I have Comcast.. so no go..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:29 PM (so+oy)

172 I know it's not on Spectrum. Don't know about DirecTV.

347 or 349. One is NewsMax and the other is OAN. I watch a lot more OAN these days.

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 12:29 PM (XTiHL)

173 141 That Cindy McCain bit in the sidebar has me pissed off.

She and Meggie Mac keep talking about Crash's "character" and PDT's lack of it.
=========

A drunken, pillhead hag and her fat daughter. They think they're so damn much - they're just white trash with money.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (vg8iE)

Like I said on the Tweets--if John McCain would be disgusted with me were he alive then I would wear that as a badge of honor.*




*I can subjunctive! Sorta.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:29 PM (RD7QR)

174 Radical Right Wing = 1950's America

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:29 PM (lPXYt)

175 "Radical right-wing" == in the middle of commercial breaks, the station will air quick 60-second vignettes on various founding fathers, historical figures, and the first 10 Constitutional amendments comprising the Bill of Rights.

How radical."

Anyone ever spend time overseas, and watch Armed Forces Radio and Television Service?

Posted by: Truck Stops of America at November 12, 2019 12:29 PM (cqNba)

176 Where does one see this network? I have never seen it on cable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (so+oy)

---
The lefty trolls hit that Wiki article hard. One section is labeled "George Soros smears" and describes how OANN "falsely claimed" that Soros collaborated with Nazis and sponsored migrant caravans. WTF? Those things are provably true.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 12:26 PM (N4xQB)

Its part of our Direct TV package (Mom keeps damn TV so she can watch her Baseball games).

Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM (NgKpN)

177 158


I'll give you a rusty trombone if you give me a rusty trumpet.

Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (f1Vqw)
With the word "angel" in her name, I'd assume she is more practiced in the art of the Angel Trumpet

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM (N39Ws)

178 I seem to recall these same folks calling McCain anaazi in 08

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM (w+eSh)

179
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Pelosi unchained: not sure if it's real news or not:



https://tinyurl.com/yhlmgukn

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 12:12 PM (Wmf3G)



Oh my, is there tape out there?



Was on CSpan but they may cover it up.


Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:22 PM

------------------

Looks pretty fake. Article contains this:

"Pelosi certainly does have the power to shut down all of those things
under the Consolidatement Clause of Article 5 Section 3 of the Bill of
Rights."


Heh.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM (pMGkg)

180 Most shocking: he doesn't believe the identity of the "WB" is relevant.

Point being, I'm sure Howie wold find it extremely relevant if a "WB" calling-out the antics of Gropey and the milk-chocolate messiah had any ties at all to any GOP congress critter or, gasp, the Federalist Society.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM (DU2N9)

181 136 @NewsBreaking 21 seconds ago

BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill

He's going to spend more time hiking...
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM

Now's my chance!

Posted by: Jon Kasich at November 12, 2019 12:31 PM (RYDNl)

182 Not only is Mollie smart, she has great elbows.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:31 PM (MIsTo)

183 >> or rusty strumpet?

I have (or had) a bunch of those on my staff.

Posted by: Katie AngelButt-123 Hill at November 12, 2019 12:31 PM (f1Vqw)

184 From the early, early mornin' till the early, early night
You can see miss Molly rockin' at the house of blue light.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 12:31 PM (r+sAi)

185 Seriously, raise your hand if you didn't know Sanford was in. I didn't.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:32 PM (MIsTo)

186 Now's my chance!
Posted by: Jon Kasich at November 12, 2019 12:31 PM (RYDNl)

---------------

Remind me again, for the gazillionth time, but, son of a mailman, right?

But, do you know which one?

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 12, 2019 12:32 PM (qC1Sy)

187 Howie Slurps lost his credibility long ago.

Posted by: Caliban at November 12, 2019 12:32 PM (QE8X6)

188 He is really not a WB as defined by the act they are trying to use.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 12:32 PM (JFO2v)

189 I love OANN; that's all we watch for news. It comes with the CSpire Plan (not surprising being that Cspire is a Mississippi home grown family company.)

The reporters aren't very polished, but the info they put out there is actual real journalism. They also show black and white news reels from back in the day, when America was noble and journalism meant reporting the news and leaving the opinion to the people.

Posted by: overit at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (sI15f)

190 167 That both Facebook and Twitter will delete any mentions of the name?

When it is perfectly legal for a private citizen to talk about this subject?

Very very scary.
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (NgKpN)

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Has anyone tried it yet?
Posted by: reason at November 12, 2019 12:28 PM (q/kmn)

I've been thinking of nuking my FaceChimp page anyway so I might just try suicide by cop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (RD7QR)

191 https://www.livenewsnow.com/

Has OANN free

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (lPXYt)

192 Oh, and this would be the same Whistleblower Act that saw Obama retaliate and prosecute over 200 people after they made their claims?

Oh Holy Media! Tell us, Dear Sirs, what is it to the sanctification of a Whistleblower, that he may be free to blow his whistle after 2016 but not before?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (gd6je)

193 Most shocking: he doesn't believe the identity of the "WB" is relevant.

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None of the evidence is relevant. The only thing that's relevant is that #OrangeManBad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (+y/Ru)

194 Update- OT- My brother in law is worse off today than yesterday. MS has probably finally won. He is not unconscious but has no idea where he is or what is going on nor can he talk. He is incoherent. The hope was eventually rehab again but this time he's not going to make it out of the hospital. Pray for him. Ron G. Thank you

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (0OmEj)

195 >>She and Meggie Mac keep talking about Crash's "character" and PDT's lack of it.


Does anyone outside of DC miss McCain?Out of sight, out of mind for me.

He was a Senator, one of 100. I am so very tired of these long-serving Congressmen and Senators (and their family) thinking America will fall apart without them.


No, no it won't.
We'll just elect someone else to fill that seat, which by the way, does not belong to you or your family.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (bDqIh)

196 136 @NewsBreaking 21 seconds ago

BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill


He's going to spend more time hiking...
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (cF8AT)

And there be good hos in Argentina!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (JFO2v)

197 AoSHQ: Come for the Smart Military Blog discussions, fashion and transportation tips, and shelf construction know-how, stay for the non-schlumpy vocabulary enhancements.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 12, 2019 12:34 PM (2vUDW)

198 Bill Sammon has literally forbidden Fox news division personnel to report on that, even those who personally confirmed the story.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2019 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

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Not the hill to die on, h8r. D9r. Whatevs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 12:34 PM (Fk2H6)

199 He's going to spend more time hiking...
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:24 PM (cF8AT)
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Maybe he can spend his time hiking through Venezuela?

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 12, 2019 12:34 PM (qC1Sy)

200
Rush just called Schiff a "lying bug-eyed bag of excrement."

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 12:34 PM (f1Vqw)

201 OANN could not offer the big bucks, but Mollie and Tucker and even Hannity (wonder what contracts they have with FOX) .. could maybe get paid in shares of the company. Depends how they are structured, but some sort of stock payment (even if it is privately held?) is how many in Dell and Google became millionaires, a few times over.


They could become the Chick-fil-A of the media world ... rising to prominence despite the media attacks on their Christian ethics. Or maybe OANN could just go public ... but that might interfere with their future plans, idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 12:27 PM (Cus5s)

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If OANN was able to snag Tucker, and replaced that "Daily Ledger" weirdo with him, their growth would explode.

Right now I only watch OANN for the daytime newsreaders. When Ledger and Tipping Point come on, the TV goes off.

Ledger is what "conservative opinion shows" look like when a TV show or movie needs a fake Bill O'Reilly placement, but can't actually get BOR.

And I'm just going to say it - Liz Wheeler isn't much better.

Posted by: reason at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (q/kmn)

202 I find Kurtz annoying as hell. He's one of those "but wait, don't you want to temper the truth with some horseshit so people feel happy?" people.

Spirit of Whistleblower leg says it all. But the Spirit!!!! From people who wouldn't know a spirit from a can of alpo.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (nRWPy)

203 The lefty trolls hit that Wiki article hard. One section is labeled "George Soros smears" and describes how OANN "falsely claimed" that Soros collaborated with Nazis and sponsored migrant caravans. WTF? Those things are provably true.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter

being a former 3rd Reich Employee of the Month is not technically collaborating.

Posted by: x at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (nFwvY)

204 Found this on their facebook page:

One America News network is a national TV news network airing on Verizon Fios, channel 116. AT&T U-verse, channel 208, and CenturyLink prism, channel 209. We also stream on Amazon Fire TV, Roku, and Vivicast Media Channel 16. One America News Network is a new credible source for national and international headlines. An independent, cutting edge platform for keeping our viewers informed.

I have Comcast.. so no go..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:29 PM (so+oy)



I thought it was on Pluto but maybe that's Newsmax.

*scampers off to check*

Yeah, Pluto has Newsmax but not OANN.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (mf5HN)

205 Oh and it looks like the Supreme Court under the steady hand of John "You wanna know how I got these Irish kids from South America" Roberts continues to beclown itself with yet another ridiculous ruling in the Remington case.


Ridiculous.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (JLrCS)

206 That Cindy McCain bit in the sidebar has me pissed off.

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How smart can she be! She married Crash McCain!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

207
He was running?
Posted by: Mikey NTH
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More like hiking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (Pu/Kw)

208 @ 82 Pelosi said "We will shut down not just the Senate smoking lounge, but
their cafeteria and their bath house. The Roman Empire fell from within.
The Senate will follow."

This should be burning skull material. The Speaker Of The House is calling for the end of American political institutions. You may commence the shooting, with her blessing.



Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (NVYyb)

what in the hell? seriously?

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:36 PM (8D42x)

209 Eric Ciaramella is the so called whistleblower who believes we should t read the actual phone cal transcript. We should trust his judgement. This former Biden staffer.

His picture with Hillary, Schumer and Pelosi are all over the internet. The media should be embarrassed but they have no shame or integrity.

In today's world of the intardnet you can't fool as many people as you once did, mokes.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:36 PM (MIsTo)

210 @NewsBreaking 21 seconds ago

BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill
*******
1 Person who showed up at his announcement Hardest Hit

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 12:36 PM (BqBId)

211 Rush just called Schiff a "lying bug-eyed bag of excrement."

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Harsh but fair.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:36 PM (+y/Ru)

212 Coup plotters get federal whistleblower and Leftist media protection when they used to be executed. #OnlyInAmerica

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 12:36 PM (r+sAi)

213 Q. Why are we still calling this human booger a "whistleblower"? He's clearly a lying scumbag who made shit up out of whole cloth.
That's not "whistleblowing". It's perjury.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM (tJvHx)

214 A reminder, everyone:

Kasich is the son of an actual mailman.

Meggie Mac is John McCain's daughter.

Okay?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM (ptqGC)

215 Howie's got a big schnozz.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM (v0R5T)

216 Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable

Prayers for your BIL.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM (d7Ww2)

217 I believe OANN is also connected to the Washington Times is it not?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM (qkXUc)

218 I seem to recall these same folks calling McCain anaazi in 08
Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM (w+eSh)


Or when the bottom of his class piece of shit yukked it up about Janet Reno being Chelsea Clinton's father within earshot of his friensh in the unfree press, who promptly tattled on him like a bunch of grade school brats, forcing the stupid fuck to bow and scrape in utter humiliation. Typically he didn't learn a damn thing from it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM (y7DUB)

219 John has a long mustache.

Posted by: Caliban at November 12, 2019 12:38 PM (QE8X6)

220 Rush just called Schiff a "lying bug-eyed bag of excrement."
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion
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How undignified.

Posted by: Susan Rice at November 12, 2019 12:38 PM (Pu/Kw)

221 Former CNN/WaPo Schlump Howie Kurtz Attacks Mollie Hemingway for Committing Journalism
.........

The word is Pounces.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 12:19 PM (so+oy)

in fairness, i'd pounce on her too...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:38 PM (8D42x)

222 The reporter babes are like 23 on OANN. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:38 PM (lPXYt)

223 Pelosi said "We will shut down not just the Senate smoking lounge, but

their cafeteria and their bath house."

Pelosi's still butthurt that Trump canceled her vacation shopping trip to Italy.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (tJvHx)

224 I've already dropped Fox pretty much. Hannity makes some good points but in an annoying manner. I do watch Tucker via youtube. The Five, sometimes, via youtube.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (rXie1)

225 Oh Holy Media! Tell us, Dear Sirs, what is it to the sanctification of a Whistleblower, that he may be free to blow his whistle after 2016 but not before?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (gd6je)


The Declaration of Whendecheckcomes states in the many, many, lists of things that Orange Man Bad has done such as pillage the McDonalds, horde the Diet Coke, and use up all of the good crayons states that anything Orange Man Bad wants to do is ipso facto and res ipsa liquorstore inconceivable.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (hLRSq)

226 So John Kasich was the mailman who fathered Meghan McCain?

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (pMGkg)

227 Howie is emblematic of one of the biggest problems in the media today - the perpetual masturbation of media talking with media about... media.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (DU2N9)

228 Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook victims to sue Remington.

Posted by: Jolo at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (WrMOC)

229 "We also stream on Amazon Fire TV...."


Oh good! I didn't know that. Thanks!

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:40 PM (cF8AT)

230 Chris Wallace

Howie Kurtz

Judge Nappy

the left behind throuple resistance

they miss them some Shep

cosmos all around

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 12:40 PM (rpxSz)

231 > Kasich is the son of an actual mailman.
And that's why Mr. Kasich divorced his wife.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 12:40 PM (tJvHx)

232 Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (0OmEj)
*******
Eh as my Cousin told me when my Mom was bad & he really loved my Mom " He told me, None of us make it out alive." BUT Thoughts & Prayers to you & The Family & he will be at Peace & in Heaven with no more pain or worries

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 12:40 PM (BqBId)

233 197
AoSHQ: Come for the Smart Military Blog discussions, fashion and
transportation tips, and shelf construction know-how, stay for the
non-schlumpy vocabulary enhancements embiggengization.

fixt

Posted by: Anachronda at November 12, 2019 12:40 PM (sGtp+)

234 82 Pelosi unchained: not sure if it's real news or not:


..


Lol

Check the scroll.

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2019 12:40 PM (jKqaK)

235 That's not "whistleblowing". It's perjury.
The very reason he won't testify. But if it ever gets to the Senate, he is the first person that should be in front of the committee.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (r+sAi)

236 A reminder, everyone:
Kasich is the son of an actual mailman.
Meggie Mac is John McCain's daughter.
Okay?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM


What am I?

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (2vUDW)

237 Rush just called Schiff a "lying bug-eyed bag of excrement."
.........

lol
Saw a clip of him this morning blinking those bug-eyes a mile a minute like he was caught in a dust storm tripping on bad acid.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (v0R5T)

238 228 Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook victims to sue Remington.

Posted by: Jolo at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (WrMOC)

Isn't that just a way to bring it up to SCOTUS?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (RD7QR)

239 "some of the donations may have come from prohibited sources"
No sources are prohibited for Democrats.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (Tnijr)

240 Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook victims to sue Remington.
=====

And there's the crest of the slippery slope, covered in ice, coated in Crisco, doused in olive oil.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (vg8iE)

241 First, she should stop appearing on Howie Kurtz, period. Kurtz -- and many of the other Fox show hosts -- need Mollie Hemingway a lot more than they need her.

Amen to that.

I see Donna Brazille, Napolitano, and I *click*.

I see Mollie and I sit through tortuous other idiots just to hear what she has to say.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (vEIlU)

242 What is with Howie's sagging lower lip? Did he have nerve damage ala Sylvester Stallone ?

Posted by: Sphynx at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM (rXie1)

243 -
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I seem to recall these same folks calling McCain anaazi in 08

Posted by: Mack the jack at November 12, 2019 12:30 PM

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Anasazi?? That's cultural appropriation!!

Posted by: The hills have eyes and other snacks. at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM (pMGkg)

244 > What am I?

Posted by: Stacey Abrams


Half tank, half hippopotamus?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM (tJvHx)

245 The hope was eventually rehab again but this time he's not going to make it out of the hospital. Pray for him. Ron G. Thank you

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 12, 2019 12:33 PM (0OmEj)

Prayers up for him and the family.

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM (cF8AT)

246 BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill
*******

back to the Appalachian trail

fav spot cruisers

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM (rpxSz)

247 Babylon Bee:

U.S.
New Emmy Category Announced: Best Covering For A Pedophile
November 12th, 2019

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM (+y/Ru)

248 244 Half tank, half hippopotamus?

TARKUS Abrams!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (1XNk8)

249 236 A reminder, everyone:
Kasich is the son of an actual mailman.
Meggie Mac is John McCain's daughter.
Okay?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:37 PM

What am I?
Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (2vUDW)

Three burritos away from going Monsieur Creosote.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (RD7QR)

250 Second, she should start talking to One America News Network.

I am assuming they have already reached out to her but not sure if she has some standing contract with Fox re competition. If she's a free free agent, then so be it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (vEIlU)

251 Supreme Court to allow Sandy Hook victims to sue Remington.



Posted by: Jolo at November 12, 2019 12:39 PM (WrMOC)


IT'S A TAX!!

- Supremely Conservative CJ John Roberts

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (DU2N9)

252 Pelosi's still butthurt that Trump canceled her vacation shopping trip to Italy.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Belgium (too?).

The last time that she passed through, they gave her a medal, for something.

Posted by: Susan Rice at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (Pu/Kw)

253 This guy ever hear of the Pentagon Papers?

Or how the press leaked the information about the SWIFT project?

Bob Woodward leaked info about the troop build-up prior to the first Gulf War.

IIRC, that was because of the "public's right to know", the very reason to etre for the press. Well, until, you know...

Posted by: OCBill at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (df+Zi)

254 55 is to young to die, Fuck MS.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM (0OmEj)

255 What am I?

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (2vUDW)


NOT my governor.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (ptqGC)

256 @238

Gun manufacturers have immunity from civil suits per federal law, as usual for the Roberts court, we get a ridiculous ruling full of Rube Goldberg logic to justify lawlessness.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (JLrCS)

257 235 That's not "whistleblowing". It's perjury.
The very reason he won't testify. But if it ever gets to the Senate, he is the first person that should be in front of the committee.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (r+sAi)


I wonder if he is regretting volunteering for this Kamikaze mission?

"Wait - Kamikaze? Nobody said anything about a KAMIKAZE!?!?" Eric Cia....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (hLRSq)

258 Temperature dropping like a rock. Dog curled into a circle, getting a tighter circle each time. At some point she's going to have the density of a black hole (not a black ho).

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (nRWPy)

259 OANN is on DirecTV. My dog is watching while I'm at work.

Posted by: Black Mesa Facility Operations Department at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (4zoVv)

260 Ask Adam Lovinger how the Obama administration handled whistleblower protection.

And people should stop calling Ciaramella a whistleblower. He's not one. He's a leakers.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (ZLI7S)

261 Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 12:16 PM (NVYyb)

what in the hell? seriously?
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:36 PM (8D42x)

no. That site is fake news.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (Kpl3J)

262 back to the Appalachian trail

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of Tears.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (+y/Ru)

263 -
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Babylon Bee:



U.S.

New Emmy Category Announced: Best Covering For A Pedophile

November 12th, 2019


Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:42 PM

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Hah. The BB is brutal.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (pMGkg)

264 And there's the crest of the slippery slope, covered in ice, coated in Crisco, doused in olive oil.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
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The camel's nose has been well lubed.

Posted by: Susan Rice at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (Pu/Kw)

265 Come to think of it, Stacey Abrams would be much improved by a Keith Emerson Moog solo.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (1XNk8)

266
Tom Shillue does some hilarious bug-eyed Schiff bits on Gutfeld's show. Here's "Adam Schiff takes a selfie":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_nwPWh0MeQ

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (f1Vqw)

267 "What am I?


Posted by: Stacey Abrams"

Our worst nightmare

Posted by: The Golden Corral at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (Tnijr)

268 I wonder if Kurtz was wearing Depends at the time Mollie appeared on the show.

It sounds like he needed them.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (vEIlU)

269 It's 76 right now, and the temperature is supposed to plummet into the 40s pretty quickly. Getting down to freezing tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (ptqGC)

270 Crap. /Susan Rice, seditionist

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (Pu/Kw)

271 What am I?

Posted by: Stacey Abrams

About 350 lbs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (+y/Ru)

272 Crap. /Susan Rice, seditionist
===

No worries. It's always implied.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (vg8iE)

273 [The last time that she passed through, they gave her a medal, for something.
Posted by: Susan Rice at November 12, 2019 12:43 PM

Le Royale, with mayonnaise.

Posted by: Vincent Vega at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (2vUDW)

274 Wow! While I was dealing with
malfunctioning water pipes over the weekend something big seems to have happened in Spain. Unexpectedly of course. Am I reading fake news or did the PP and Vox now combine for more seats in their Congress than the socialists?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (gInrg)

275 It's 76 right now, and the temperature is supposed to plummet into the 40s pretty quickly. Getting down to freezing tonight.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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20's last night, a dusting of snow, and very breezy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (Pu/Kw)

276 But did Sanford's campaign outlast French Davidian's two-week wonder* of a campaign?

(* as in, we wondered what the frell he thought he was doing.)

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (1XNk8)

277 @seanmdav 2m

The complaint against the anti-Trump whistleblower also alleges that he and his attorneys may be taking money from foreign citizens and governments to help pay for their anti-Trump political efforts. The letter says a separate IRS complaint has been filed.

https://tinyurl.com/yzs9z3gp

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (cF8AT)

278 "I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up there rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are."

"If I had my choice, I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting Reports from Hell before breakfast."

Gen. William 'Tecumseh' Sherman

Nothing new under the Sun. The MSM have always been garbage.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (tKWP3)

279 The only extra info on McCain I got from my dad last night was while at NAS Cecil Field McCain reported to a guy nicknamed "Spine Ripper" that did not care for McCain at all.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (Xvo1a)

280 Gun manufacturers have immunity from civil suits per federal law, as usual for the Roberts court, we get a ridiculous ruling full of Rube Goldberg logic to justify lawlessness.
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:44 PM (JLrCS)

I think they were wrong to let it go, but what they did today was simply to punt the ball, not decide that case. Judges love to do that whenever they can. It's going to take another Trump Court appointment to get them to start acting on cases like this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (Kpl3J)

281 I'd really love to know which MSM reporters published classified info leaks provided by. . . the so-called whistleblower.

Please tell me why he gets press protection by the rest of Trump's team can be smeared with unauthorized leaks at any time.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (bDqIh)


I'm hoping the "reports" forth coming list a few big ones.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (vEIlU)

282 256, The case was not a decision on the merits but an interlocutory appeal (before the trial had started in CT court). These commonly fail.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (MItID)

283 266
Tom Shillue does some hilarious bug-eyed Schiff bits on Gutfeld's show. Here's "Adam Schiff takes a selfie":


Shillue's Schiff is GOLD!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (1XNk8)

284 BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill
*******
1 Person who showed up at his announcement Hardest Hit


To spend more time with his family. What's left of it.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (Ibwur)

285 OANN has to develop their talent, and/or recruit more. Seems like a noble effort so far ... I just watch clips on specific topics once in a while. They will need ad revenue to really go big time I suppose ... but that would come if they started getting more of the Fox share (since Fox management is leftist, and lets it show)


If they are streaming (I think they are) then they don't need to get the cable outlets so much... though that still offers a revenue stream I guess. But times are a changin ...

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (Cus5s)

286 "I'm John McCain and I approved this message."

That's the signature line from McCain's signature bill, the Campaign Reform Act. It was meant to stop unaccountable smear campaigns by faceless politicians.

Yet that is exactly what McCain did when he conspired with Brennan and Comey to spread the Trump Dossier. Supporting sedition by an anonymous rogue National Security Apparatus is even worse than attacks by anonymous politicians. McCain shit on his own legacy.

He told voters if they elected him president or re-elected him senator, he would be "leading the fight to repeal and replace ObamaCare". Instead, he screwed over millions of families for personal pique.

His office conspired with Lois Lerner to have the IRS harass citizens in the Tea Party movement. Anti-Constitutional if not illegal.

He famously said "We have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency". He was wrong about that. too. We had nothing to fear from a patriotic black president, but not from Obama, who did vast damage.

He sought to impose theocracy on Egypt and met with al Baghdadi as Obama's envoy.

He once fought to secure South Vietnam's borders but saw no need to secure America's.

He expected Republicans to support him when he was chosen, which we did--but failed to reciprocate when we chose Donald Trump.

It was a slur against America to equate the targeted discomfort put on Khalid Sheik Muhammad to stop another 9/11 (and get bin Laden's location) to the sadistic free-for-all inflicted on our servicemen at the Hanoi Hilton.

And his last public act was to leave Arizonans without a senator for a year, treating his office as a hereditary baronetcy. That's against the republican nature of our country and putting self before service.

John McCain had a chance to be a hero again, to tell the corrupt directors of the CIA and the FBI to stop meddling in the presidential campaign and get their grubby hands off of the election that rightfully belongs to the American people. He could have done that with his stature. But instead, he threw in with them. He failed to rise above his own bitterness. He chose Self over Service and the Swamp over America.

He mouthed "Country First"--but Donald Trump is the only one doing it.

In the end, the Swamp Drained Him. He lost his way. There's been an awful lot of that going around.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (Ndje9)

287

The Arctic blast hits tonight. Supposed to get down to 25F or so here tonight.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (f1Vqw)

288 "What am I?


Posted by: Stacey Abrams"


about 275

Posted by: x at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (nFwvY)

289 What am I?
Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 12, 2019 12:41 PM (2vUDW)
*******
A Tank who loses

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 12:47 PM (BqBId)

290 @seanmdav 2m



The complaint against the anti-Trump whistleblower also alleges that
he and his attorneys may be taking money from foreign citizens and
governments to help pay for their anti-Trump political efforts. The
letter says a separate IRS complaint has been filed.



https://tinyurl.com/yzs9z3gp

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 12:46 PM (cF8AT)

Wouldn't it be just awesome if we found out a ton of money was pouring into that account from... UKRAINE!?!

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (DU2N9)

291 http://ustvgo.tv/

This has OANN for free

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (lPXYt)

292 I'll never forget McCain mocking the Tea Party (of which I was a member) and calling us "a bunch of Hobbits."

I really loathed him after that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (ptqGC)

293 Some consider clinging to that juicy FNC paycheck at any cost is easier than learning to code.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (WQZ1O)

294 Nancy's past performance tells me she thinks she's ahead, acts upon that, then realizes she's actually behind and panics

been watching people for over 50 years

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (rpxSz)

295 The lefty trolls hit that Wiki article hard. One section is labeled "George Soros smears" and describes how OANN "falsely claimed" that Soros collaborated with Nazis and sponsored migrant caravans. WTF? Those things are provably true.

Yeah but if you try to correct it, they'll reverse the corrections and send you a nastygram. Wikipedia is worthless.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (KZzsI)

296 269 It's 76 right now, and the temperature is supposed to plummet into the 40s pretty quickly. Getting down to freezing tonight.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (ptqGC)

here in supposedly warm East Texas, it was 60 degrees yesterday, and 26 degrees this morning. Austin even got some snow - Global Warming!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (Kpl3J)

297 OT:

Kanye West recently released an album titled "Jesus is King."

Taylor Swift is a woke feminist.

If you'd have told me 10 years ago (after the "Imma let you finish" thing at the award ceremony) that I'd be cheering on Kanye and booing Taylor, I'd have looked at you like you had 3 heads. This decade has been weird, man.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (KUaJL)

298 The question I've never seen answered ... From whom exactly are the media protecting the "whistleblower"? Trump? Trump supporters? Trump is going to order this guy killed or something?

It would appear the only thing being protected by this refusal to name the whistleblower is "The Narrative" that whistleblower is just a standard-issue faceless bureaucrat doing a run-o-mill job and definitely not a partisan hack with connections to Biden and the Democrats.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (hdzef)

299 "What an embarrassing display of cowardice."


Not embarrassing at all. They're not embarrassed in the slightest and we don't make them suffer embarrassment in the slightest.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (H8QX8)

300 Our newspaper is using the Arctic blast as proof that we're destroying Gaia. Because winter apparently isn't a thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (ptqGC)

301 BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill
*******
1 Person who showed up at his announcement Hardest Hit

Hopefully, he won't make a wrong turn on the Appalachian Trail and end up in Argentina again!

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (arJlL)

302
To spend more time with his family. What's left of it.
Posted by: t-bird
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Well, and to finish up that 2,200 miles of trail, yet unhiked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (Pu/Kw)

303 a dishonest partisan hack (fake whistle blower) gets full MSM censorship protection ... but a couple thousand spied on Repubs get unmasked and their info leaked ... no big deal.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (Cus5s)

304 I'm with you Ace - OAN Network for the win. And now that they've had a reporter, Neil McCabe I think, knocked off of twatter b/c he had the gall to knock on the whistleblowers front door which will also peek the interest of others.

BTW, at least with the Clown News Network, MSLSD, and the others you know what you get. Faux outright pretends to be partisan and then does all it can to make PDJFT look bad.

Remember it wasn't long ago that Emerald Robinson from OANN said she had at from very reliable information that Faux Newz would no longer have guests/experts on their shows that were supportive of the president (other than the big three: TuCa, Hannity, and I think Laura) and it turns out to be unbelievably true. Fuck them sideways with a barbed pineapple full of C4.

Thank God we have President Trump as the more knives are out for him the more determined he is to fight for us.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (lwKRt)

305 Got down to zero here.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (pMGkg)

306 Oh and it looks like the Supreme Court under the steady hand of John "You wanna know how I got these Irish kids from South America" Roberts continues to beclown itself with yet another ridiculous ruling in the Remington case.


Ridiculous.
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:35 PM (JLrCS)



What ruling, it was a denial of cert. That's it. There was no ruling.

Mind you, cert should have been granted and the CT Supreme Court told to suck it, but, again, a denial of cert is not the same as a ruling.


Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (mf5HN)

307 What am I?

Posted by: Stacey Abrams

About 350 lbs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (+y/Ru)
..........

on a good day.

Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (v0R5T)

308 Kanye West recently released an album titled "Jesus is King."

Taylor Swift is a woke feminist.

If you'd have told me 10 years ago (after the "Imma let you finish" thing at the award ceremony) that I'd be cheering on Kanye and booing Taylor, I'd have looked at you like you had 3 heads. This decade has been weird, man.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (KUaJL)

The world is upside-down.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 12:50 PM (J+mig)

309 298 The question I've never seen answered ... From whom exactly are the media protecting the "whistleblower"? Trump? Trump supporters? Trump is going to order this guy killed or something?

It would appear the only thing being protected by this refusal to name the whistleblower is "The Narrative" that whistleblower is just a standard-issue faceless bureaucrat doing a run-o-mill job and definitely not a partisan hack with connections to Biden and the Democrats.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (hdzef)

Is there any doubt that pretty much everyone knows who he is?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 12, 2019 12:51 PM (Uu+Jp)

310 296 269 It's 76 right now, and the temperature is supposed to plummet into the 40s pretty quickly. Getting down to freezing tonight.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM (ptqGC)

hold my Absolute with a splash of Kahlua

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 12:51 PM (rpxSz)

311 The question I've never seen answered ... From whom exactly are the media protecting the "whistleblower"? Trump? Trump supporters? Trump is going to order this guy killed or something?
===========

That's the impression they want to give with this phony bullshit.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 12:51 PM (vg8iE)

312 Appearing on Fox News' The Daily Briefing, Monday afternoon, Kurtz told host Dana Perino that he didn't think it was "the role of the media to disclose the identity of the whistleblower."


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Wow. Trump has really ripped the masks right off the pathetic shills who march around with their chests puffed out calling themselves "investigative reporters."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 12:51 PM (YhLp3)

313 Why is the identity of the whistleblower relevant?

Because the "case" as stated by the Dems currently is that "6 witnesses have largely corraborated the allegations raised in the complaint"

By not naming him, they're able to hide the coordination and coaching between the "witnesses," the whistleblower and the Dems on the committee.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 12:52 PM (gd6je)

314 Menawhile - the IG report is still be translated from the original Swahili text, and, the investigation into the original coup is proceeding, if at all, at a snail's pace, and Andrew McCabe - referred for criminal prosecution 20-fucking months ago, continues to breathe the air of Free Men.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:52 PM (DU2N9)

315 Drudge is on (at least) day three of

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! THEY'LL BE EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

316 hold my Absolute with a splash of Kahlua
Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 12:51 PM


Seriously. Teens tonight with snow threatened in my corner of the 413.

*pats firewood pile*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 12:53 PM (ejd/p)

317 whistleblower

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says whistleblower... at November 12, 2019 12:53 PM (EgshT)

318 300 Our newspaper is using the Arctic blast as proof that we're destroying Gaia. Because winter apparently isn't a thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh
----------
My blessed mother tried that crap just yesterday and I asked her, "in your 70 plus year have you ever seen weather like this?"

Mom: Why yes, yes I have back when you were a kid we had something very similar but it was closer to Halloween and then again...

So that being said mother, what does this have to do without globull warming/climate make believe?

Mom: Hey, look a squirrel..

LOL

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 12, 2019 12:53 PM (lwKRt)

319 BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill

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Okay. That explains the tremor in the Force I felt this morning.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 12:54 PM (YhLp3)

320 ...and dossier

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says whistleblower... at November 12, 2019 12:54 PM (EgshT)

321 WTF SCOTUS? We just took it up the ass on Remington. So much for the Second Amendment.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (MIsTo)

322 315 Drudge is on (at least) day three of

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! THEY'LL BE EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

What a strange age this is, where Obama can have a recession longer than six months, and Trump can have an economy that collapses upward.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (J+mig)

323 "Jesus is King."

-
We can't know that until Judge K'moniwannalaya rules.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (+y/Ru)

324 320 ...and dossier
Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says whistleblower... at November 12, 2019 12:54 PM (EgshT)

...and moose

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (RD7QR)

325 Fox News reported in September that the nonprofit Whistleblower Aid worked with the whistleblower's attorneys at the Compass Rose Legal Group to start the GoFundMe.

Let me guess: Whistleblower Aid was founded in January, 2017.

Good guess?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (RFAn/)

326 Kurtz told host Dana Perino that he didn't think it was "the role of the media to disclose the identity of the whistleblower."

But it was totally the role of the media to doxx 17-year old Nick Sandman and the rest of the Covington Catholic crew, right Howie?

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (DU2N9)

327 Our newspaper is using the Arctic blast as proof that we're destroying Gaia. Because winter apparently isn't a thing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
---------

I note that in 2008, the low there (Savannah) on Nov. 10 was 39.9 deg.

On Nov 19, it dropped to 27 deg.

Those are not records, I just looked over some random Nov. temps.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (Pu/Kw)

328 ...out front

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says whistleblower... at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (EgshT)

329 That Cindy McCain bit in the sidebar has me pissed off.

She never looked real.

More like a mannequin in a window that someone dresses up for each season.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (vEIlU)

330 321 WTF SCOTUS? We just took it up the ass on Remington. So much for the Second Amendment.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (MIsTo)

Whig and AtC commented above on this.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (RD7QR)

331 ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! THEY'LL BE EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

--------

If the economy gets any worse I may retire five years early.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (YhLp3)

332 BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill

You mean he'd entered?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (RFAn/)

333 Drudge is on (at least) day three of

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! THEY'LL BE EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

He likes to line up a bunch of screaming "we're all gonna die!" anti-Trump headlines over on the left side of his site - that all invariably go to the same f-ing article - what a douche.

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (32YRo)

334 Whistleblower is the leaker on your team
it's like getting to say who the refs are in the game, during the game

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (Eg9+v)

335 I note that in 2008, the low there (Savannah) on Nov. 10 was 39.9 deg.

On Nov 19, it dropped to 27 deg.


There's that global warming striking again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (RFAn/)

336 What grounds did they have for denial of cert, Alex? And what's the game plan here? I keep hearing there is some super genius SCOTUS plan to kill this stud once and for all. I'm not buying it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (MIsTo)

337

Alternate post title:

You Know, Howie Kurtz Serves No Purpose

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (IKwjm)

338 Oh, and I did listen to the Kanye album. Feel free to support him on the faith thing, but I found the music pretty boring on an artistic level.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (KUaJL)

339 "Kurtz told host Dana Perino that he didn't think it was "the role of the media to disclose the identity of the whistleblower."


"just what is it you'd say you do here?"

they spin for the left, from their NeverTrump stance as the True Conservatives.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (Cus5s)

340 It's 76 right now, and the temperature is supposed to plummet into the 40s pretty quickly. Getting down to freezing tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:45 PM


54 and falling (with rain falling as well) here 110 miles to your Northwest.

Posted by: Ron Cherry at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (OMsf+)

341 300 Our newspaper is using the Arctic blast as proof that we're destroying Gaia. Because winter apparently isn't a thing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:49 PM (ptqGC)

But if you get called a conspiracy theorist if you claim that weather cycles can be related to something like, say, Solar Activity. And they are outraged if you point out that the sun has been remarkably quiet this year, with 224 completely spotless days this year, as of a couple of weeks ago - and counting. It's one of the lowest periods of solar activity in decades.

but oh no, that can't possibly have anything to do with it getting cooler.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (Kpl3J)

342 326 Kurtz told host Dana Perino that he didn't think it was "the role of the media to disclose the identity of the whistleblower."

But it was totally the role of the media to doxx 17-year old Nick Sandman and the rest of the Covington Catholic crew, right Howie?
Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (DU2N9)

------------

The plot of The Big Book of Journalistic Ethics is harder to follow then Pirates of the Caribbean 3.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (YhLp3)

343 Argh, off referee sock.

Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (OMsf+)

344 Why is the identity of the whistleblower relevant? 


Because in this country the accused has a right to face his accuser. It has to do with fairness something the Democrats deny their opponents.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (gInrg)

345 332 BREAKING: Trump challenger Mark Sanford exits GOP presidential primary - The Hill

You mean he'd entered?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (RFAn/)

I'm surprised it took him this long to realize that his political career is deader than disco.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (J+mig)

346 Drudge is on (at least) day three of

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! THEY'LL BE EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

He likes to line up a bunch of screaming "we're all gonna die!" anti-Trump headlines over on the left side of his site - that all invariably go to the same f-ing article - what a douche.
Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (32YRo)


You'd think he'd be more worried about the virus.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (RFAn/)

347 "(including Disney Princess Hotness Evaluator Mark Zaid)"

LOLOLOLOL!!ELEVENTY!!

I just died.

Posted by: Frank the Tank at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (JP4mP)

348 >>Whig and AtC commented above on this.

Yes but they used facts and that's not fair.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

349 What kinda of nutbag wouldja have to be to attracted to McLame and fall for his bullshit

Linda ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (rpxSz)

350 ...and dossier


Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says whistleblower... at November 12, 2019 12:54 PM (EgshT)

BOUGHT AND PAID FOR DIRTY dossier.
Repeat after me.

Posted by: Hannity at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (v0R5T)

351 You mean he'd entered?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Blunderdome - one idiot enters - and then turns around and leaves with his pants around his legs.

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (32YRo)

352 @306

There was no basis for allowing the CT suite to move forward, the SCOTUS should have done as you said.

But now Remington has to waste vast amounts of money fighting a frivolous lawsuit.


People have to understand, gun manufacturers profit margins are vanishingly slim and Remington is already in Chapter 11 bankruptcy so the continuation of the insane law suit may put them under, which is probably the plaintiffs strategy to begin with.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (JLrCS)

353 Yeah but if you try to correct it, they'll reverse the corrections and send you a nastygram. Wikipedia is worthless.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (KZzsI)


I'm losing patience with people that link that dogshit site.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (y7DUB)

354 Even Paul Mirengoff (Power Line's Allahpundit) said the only "penalty" Ciaramella will "suffer" will be never having to buy a meal or a drink in DC.

I read some sidebar stuff to my wife. She just said "I'm glad we're old, and won't have to put up with too much more of this."

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (ZbwAu)

355 http://ustvgo.tv/

This has OANN for free
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (lPXYt)


thank you, sir

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (vEIlU)

356 Because in this country the accused has a right to face his accuser. It has to do with fairness something the Democrats deny their opponents.
Posted by: Floridachick at November 12, 2019 12:58 PM (gInrg)

A simple lawsuit about the process violating his right to face his accuser should do wonders, if there was any honesty left.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (J+mig)

357 Cold here today though the dusting of snow we had has melted. The winter glacier that forms in our front yard made an earl appearance this year. I don't see it melting off this year until spring. Why do we always get the house that faces the wrong way? Bonus is the extra shade we get from large trees.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (0OmEj)

358 300 Our newspaper is using the Arctic blast as proof that we're destroying Gaia. Because winter apparently isn't a thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

-

That's why they changed "global warming" to "climate change." They don't need to show things getting warmer because climate change can literally encompass anything.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (N4xQB)

359 First you get the sap congresscritters to send in the foreign aid in exchange for hiring the children of connected persons.

Then the presstitutes attach themselves to circumstance as permitted and feed off the leavings.

It's a political ecosystem.

The taxpayer is the victim.

Posted by: torabora at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (Y274z)

360 Let me guess: Whistleblower Aid was founded in January, 2017.

Good guess?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 12:55 PM (RFAn/)

I posted this in the last thread:

@RoscoeBDavis1

So with about 30 seconds of research we find out that Whistleblower Aid is actually a company called "Values United"

And who founded Values United.....drum roll please

Mark Zaid

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (cF8AT)

361 Howie Ballsack Kurtz has his own show on Fox News and Mollie Hemingway is....possibly persona non grata on Fox News.

The Murdoch boys have entropy talent aka trust fund talent.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (wSj0O)

362 Oh, and I did listen to the Kanye album. Feel free to support him on the faith thing, but I found the music pretty boring on an artistic level.

Yeah, but that's been my response to everything I've ever head by the guy. He's supposed to be come kind of genius, but it must be in places I've not witnessed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

363 What's up with the VIP crap at HotAir? That's new.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (/Kt3K)

364 Bwhahahaha! Mark Sanford ended his bid for president. LOLFG on the Appalachian Trail!!!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (vGJY7)

365 54 and falling (with rain falling as well) here 110 miles to your Northwest.
Posted by: Ron Cherry
--------

*ponders*

Dublin? Macon?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (Pu/Kw)

366 Appearing on Fox News' The Daily Briefing, Monday afternoon, Kurtz told host Dana Perino that he didn't think it was "the role of the media to disclose the identity of the whistleblower."
_______

This also reminds me of years ago, when Halperin was claiming it wasn't the media's job to report on some Obama shit, and Mollie threw at him "Then what is the point of you?"

Anyone have a better memory of that?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (ZbwAu)

367 We had a huge veteran's day snow storm in 85-87 ( I forget which) in the DC metro. People abandoned their cars on the beltway.

They're like geese, wake up in a new world every day.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (nRWPy)

368 LOLGF, damn! I guess I was laughing too hard.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (vGJY7)

369 Seriously. Teens tonight with snow threatened in my corner of the 413.

*pats firewood pile*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 12:53 PM (ejd/p)

fistbump

Posted by: REDACTED at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (rpxSz)

370 336 What grounds did they have for denial of cert, Alex? And what's the game plan here? I keep hearing there is some super genius SCOTUS plan to kill this stud once and for all. I'm not buying it.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (MIsTo)

I believe they denied it without comment.

I suspect the "plan" is to kick the can down the road until they get a new Justice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (Kpl3J)

371 "What grounds did they have for denial of cert, Alex?"


Four justices have to agree to grant a writ of certiorari.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (hLRSq)

372 364 Bwhahahaha! Mark Sanford ended his bid for president. LOLFG on the Appalachian Trail!!!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (vGJY7)

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13 GOP voters are now up for grabs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (YhLp3)

373 363 What's up with the VIP crap at HotAir? That's new.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (/Kt3K)

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Also at PJ Media.

Posted by: SMH at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (RU4sa)

374 Why only half kill it! A New Hope gets amended. McClunkey!

https://bit.ly/33JqrzQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (+y/Ru)

375 They all think theyre Robert Redford meeting deep throat in a dark alley.

Theyre buffoons exposing their buffoonery.

Posted by: LASue at November 12, 2019 01:02 PM (+Q9b4)

376 As a Catholic who has listened to literally decades of anti-Catholics trying to tear the Church apart with proposals "in the spirit of Vatican II," let me just say that I think I should be able to punch anyone using the phrase "in the spirit of..."

Punching them seems "in the spirit of" real laws.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 12, 2019 01:02 PM (FJYfm)

377 Seriously, fuck these people. We just got off 8 years of Obama prosecuting more whistleblowers than every other administration in US history combined.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (67XdO)

378 Big chill coming to Florida this week too. Vero Beach high of 84 to low of 59 and Miami high of 83 to low of 62. Yuuuge 20 degree shift.

Oh well, these are the six heavenly months of the year in exchange for the six months of hurricane stress hell.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (gInrg)

379 That's why they changed "global warming" to "climate change." They don't need to show things getting warmer because climate change can literally encompass anything.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (N4xQB)

The only thing that weather and climate have never done is stop changing. Change is the universal constant. What makes temperatures from the 1940s the holy standard that everything must adhere to forever?

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (J+mig)

380 297 OT:

Kanye West recently released an album titled "Jesus is King."

I generally have a somewhat low tolerance level for black Gospel - I like it and appreciate it, but the repetition gets to me about the thousandth "Hallelujah!"

But having said that, his Sunday Services are pretty great. Lots of them up on Youtube.

For those who haven't heard it, the album itself isn't really "Gospel." It's his usual Hip Hop-Pop-Rap mashup with really great samples, only this time around the samples are from Gospel records, including one from an old Whole Truth record that fits so damn perfectly it's like they made the record just for Kanye to sample it! Plus, his Sunday Service choir gets a few bits in.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (1XNk8)

381 More National Divorce breakaway state news (at least to me): it appears an effort is now underway to create a(nother) breakaway state from Virginia called the State of Appalachia in response to McAuliffe's pledge to make Virginia the "most progressive state in the Union".

Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (OMsf+)

382 I dunno. I had great hopes the NYRPC v New York City would end up declaring the Second Amendment guaranteed the right to carry outside the home, thus you cannot deny CCW licenses to someone for "protection". Now I'm not so sure.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (MIsTo)

383 Yeah, but that's been my response to everything I've ever head by the guy. He's supposed to be come kind of genius, but it must be in places I've not witnessed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

True, I think I've only heard one song by him that I'd be able to name if push comes to shove.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (KUaJL)

384 A simple lawsuit about the process violating his right to face his accuser should do wonders, if there was any honesty left.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (J+mig)

That would only apply if this were actually a "Trial" or a Legal Proceeding of some kind. It isn't - seriously. This is all a political dog and pony show. Now the House could easily vote to Impeach, but that still doesn't make this a legitimate legal proceeding. It just makes the House a sad joke.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (Kpl3J)

385 Alternate post title:

You Know, Howie Kurtz Serves No Purpose

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (IKwjm)



alternate title

The Voice of a Clown Speaks Out Against Reporting News

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (vEIlU)

386 373 363 What's up with the VIP crap at HotAir? That's new.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (/Kt3K)

Also at PJ Media.
Posted by: SMH at November 12, 2019 01:01 PM (RU4sa)


If this VIP thing catches on, all it's going to do is open up the door for up and coming website's to attract many more eyeballs.


The one exception is Ace. If he decides to do a VIP live streaming shelving experiment every other day, the $$$ will pour in like a waterfall.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (nNEcr)

387 Nood Hillary

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (cF8AT)

388
381 More National Divorce breakaway state news (at least to me): it appears an effort is now underway to create a(nother) breakaway state from Virginia called the State of Appalachia in response to McAuliffe's pledge to make Virginia the "most progressive state in the Union".
Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (OMsf+)

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It's like the runup to the Thirty Years War all over again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (YhLp3)

389 362 Oh, and I did listen to the Kanye album. Feel free to support him on the faith thing, but I found the music pretty boring on an artistic level.

I like "Selah" and the one that goes "You're my Chick-fil-a."

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 01:04 PM (1XNk8)

390 I'll never forget McCain mocking the Tea Party (of which I was a member) and calling us "a bunch of Hobbits."

I really loathed him after that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 12:48 PM (ptqGC)

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One "whacko bird," reporting in, Mrs. D'oh.

Posted by: reason at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (q/kmn)

391

Close your eyes and you hear Mr. Magoo when Howie speaks.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (vEIlU)

392 >>What's up with the VIP crap


Ace wanted a place for his better Commentors.

... and there was nothing but a bunch of Old Hobo Clothes in what is now the Champagne Room.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (AIGhm)

393
That Cindy McCain bit in the sidebar has me pissed off.

She never looked real.

More like a mannequin in a window that someone dresses up for each season.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 12:56 PM (vEIlU)
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I've met Newt's wife up close. Yikes. Talk about icy and expressionless.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

394 381 More National Divorce breakaway state news (at least to me): it appears an effort is now underway to create a(nother) breakaway state from Virginia called the State of Appalachia in response to McAuliffe's pledge to make Virginia the "most progressive state in the Union".
Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 01:03 PM (OMsf+)

What would even be the process of doing this?

*ponders for NY*

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (nNEcr)

395 " let me just say that I think I should be able to punch anyone using the phrase "in the spirit of..."
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My usual approach is to say, 'I stand with the Apostle Paul...'

This causes some difficulty for the virtue signaling Feel Good bunch. I enjoy their discomfort.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (Pu/Kw)

396 That Trump spoof on a Ford commercial is really well done. Sounds like they even hired the original narrator. It nails every success leading to Trump winning easily in 2020 with the only exception being the quick blurb about how Trump is "keeping his promises." It throws in the claim that Trump promised to "protect the border." Yeah, no, sorry but that's not what he promised regarding the southern border. He was very articulate and razor-sharp specific on what he was going to accomplish for us all down south.

Posted by: Gary Mike at November 12, 2019 01:06 PM (AIcDk)

397
What would even be the process of doing this?
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It's happened before. See: West Virginia

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (Pu/Kw)

398
Tucker goes to OANN. Fox is couple of employee away from being MSNBC with hotter women.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (lPXYt)

I sometimes wonder what the Fox wardrobe department budgets for Clorox every month.

Posted by: Vanya at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (Ycey0)

399 Oh, and I did listen to the Kanye album. Feel free to support him on the faith thing, but I found the music pretty boring on an artistic level.

I did too. Listened to it twice on a long road trip. Only a couple decent songs, otherwise, meh.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:07 PM (vEIlU)

400 That's why they changed "global warming" to "climate change." They don't need to show things getting warmer because climate change can literally encompass anything.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 12:59 PM (N4xQB)


I make a point of calling it "global warming," and correct anyone who says "climate change."

But then, I enjoy watching liberals flinch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2019 01:08 PM (RFAn/)

401 Drudge is on (at least) day three of

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! THEY'LL BE EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

The DOW's up 40 points today so far, pretty unusual for an economic collapse.

Gold and Silver prices have both gone down today, you'd think that tons of people would be buying them as a hedge against the catastrophic economic collapse.

Maybe it's only Drudge who's facing an economic collapse.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (htJYU)

402 I've met Newt's wife up close. Yikes. Talk about icy and expressionless.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 01:05 PM (ptqGC)


oh yes
like a trinket on a bracelet

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (vEIlU)

403 I record Special Report, fast forward to the roundtable section. If Mollie and/or maybe Charles Hurt or Buck Sexton is not on it. I DO NOT WATCH.

Posted by: Gman at November 12, 2019 01:10 PM (ZLCR7)

404 Maybe it's only Drudge who's facing an economic collapse.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 01:09 PM (htJYU)


I am so disconnected from Drudge that I never even think about visiting that site anymore. I never even think about the site unless someone brings it up. He lost his mind.

I go to Citizen Free Press every day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 01:12 PM (vEIlU)

405 Stock market has really no bearing on the economy any more. It soared under Obama while the economy cratered because of QE. What drives the stock market these days especially with microtransactions but also deliberate narrative pushing by major forces like Soros and leftist mega corps has nothing to do with how the economy is doing. Market is up, doesn't mean the economy is doing well. Market is down, doesn't mean the economy is failing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:13 PM (KZzsI)

406 Nood. Princess Bollard

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (N39Ws)

407 Gold and Silver prices have both gone down today, you'd think that tons of people would be buying them as a hedge against the catastrophic economic collapse.

That is a better indicator. Gold especially is a solid indicator of economic health. Prices of gold and interest in it go up significantly as the economy falls. If the price of gold is falling, that's a sure sign that at least investors think that the economy is doing well and they don't need to find something stable and valuable to hide their money in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2019 01:15 PM (KZzsI)

408 remember, these are our "elites"

Posted by: Little Brian at November 12, 2019 01:37 PM (ZZEwZ)

409 One of the truly baffling things about impeachment - how much the media and democrats keep lying, blatantly lying, about what is or is not illegal.

There is no requirement whatsoever to keep the whistle blowers identity secret. There is no such law.

And a quid pro quo with Ukraine is not illegal. At all. There is no such law.

It is not illegal to investigate a rival presidential candidate especially if there is clear evidence of inappropriate behavior.

What Joe Biden did was likely illegal. Numerous statutes would apply.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 12, 2019 01:38 PM (noE+3)

410 You people need to stop saying "Epstein", too. Democrats haven't given us permission.

Posted by: Howard Kurtzy at November 12, 2019 02:37 PM (XesPP)

411 Ask Len Colodny and Bob Gettlin, authors of Silent Coup about Howard Kurtz who lied shamefully on behalf of Bob Woodward, the Washington Post and the Greater Swamp.

Posted by: Truth-Seeker at November 12, 2019 03:02 PM (hb4+V)

Morning Rant - Special Guest Ranter [Weasel]

monkey 2 scaled.jpg

There is an important lesson to be taken from the recent Virginia elections, and that is supporting the party and voting harder doesn't always get you anywhere. Said another way, you can't get elected if you're not on the goddamn ballot. I hate to say it, but the GOP in Virginia deserved every inch of what they received on November 5th. The Democrats poured time, money and effort into retaking the Virginia legislature and they did it. The days leading up to the election saw Democrat volunteers canvassing neighborhoods without a single Republican in sight. In fact, the Republicans couldn't even be bothered to field candidates in a quarter of the races. You read that correctly. For 23 of 100 House and 10 of 40 Senate seats, the incumbent Democrat ran unopposed by a Republican. The results weren't a surprise or an upset but rather a foregone conclusion. On election day, my local GOP website featured images of individuals heroically engaged in the opposition of new bike lanes rather than substantive core issues, and outside the polling place Republican campaign workers chatted amongst themselves rather than engaging arriving voters. Way to inspire the base, people. Are you trying to lose? Is the #NeverTrump ideology so deeply ingrained that you're willing to simply sacrifice the Commonwealth? Apparantly so.

Why am I ranting about this when it's already old news? Am I still angry and bitter at the outcome? Of course I am. But I'm really pissed because the Republicans didn't even try to win which is inexcusable, unforgivable and an outright betrayal of the people. They didn't show up for the damn fight. Elections have consequences which we are all going to see soon enough. Democrats may fight dirty, but they do fight and they fight to win. I'm not certain what the Republicans are doing, but they have clearly ceded Virginia to the opposition. I hope you are better served, but I'm afraid the problem is systemic and exists at all levels of local, state and national politics. Take Virginia as a warning.

We're not voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM




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Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (8D42x)

2
Yo, Epstein sighting!

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (pNxlR)

3 and the weasel is right.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (8D42x)

4 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:02 AM (q80AH)

5 Willowed, but too much cleverness to be abandoned:

372 366 Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

**********

So we get to witness the second Cummings?
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (m45I2)

What rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Baltimore to be crowned?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (NWiLs)

6 We're not voting our way out of this.

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Finally, we have the high ground.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (sX1BW)

7 Undocumented guest monkey?

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (88+cf)

8 Love the old typewriter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (Ejm1K)

9 I read an article about the changed demographics in Va. the other day.....I fear it may be lost.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (X/Pw5)

10
It's Northeastern GOPe Wasting Disease, working its way south and west.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (pNxlR)

11 Just one monkey with one typewriter? We'll be lucky to get a Biden stump speech.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (NWiLs)

12 The elections last week do not give me warm fuzzies about next November.

I believe the same dynamics are in play that were there for the midterms last year.

Suburban Moms hate Trump. Nothing is going to change that.

I say Trump has a snowball's chance in hell to get re-elected.. IF.. if the Dems can find someone who, at the very least, people can hold noses for while voting.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (so+oy)

13 aww weasel has a cute simian identity

Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (G546f)

14 Unfortunately Republicans have a tendency to cede the state and local level to the Dems as if it's their right. That leads to California and, alas, the degeneration of my beloved Commonwealth. I once considered retiring in Blacksburg or Christiansburg but that's off the list.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

15 Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp, undercover at the WaPo.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (IttZ7)

16 7 Undocumented guest monkey?
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (88+cf)

he's typing up his documents right now, see

Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (G546f)

17 Is that J. Fred Muggs?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (so+oy)

18 These are the times that try men's souls.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (Q5ALd)

19 You read that correctly. For 23 of 100 House and 10 of 40 Senate seats, the incumbent Democrat ran unopposed by a Republican

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I don't want to run for podunk local office because I am reluctant to have girlfriends from college happen upon my name and tell about that one time at the Chukker from 20 years ago.

THEY will actively engage in advertising for swingers orgies on cruise ships next month and then blame us when their photos are passed around.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (a7+mS)

20 Undocumented guest monkey?
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (88+cf)

he's typing up his documents right now, see
Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (G546f)


Don't upset him or he'll rip your face off.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (aS1PU)

21 Suburban Moms hate Trump. Nothing is going to change that.

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Depends on the suburb.

There are other suburbs than northern Virginia - which is what the journalists think of when they say suburban moms.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (sX1BW)

22 "Are you trying to lose? Is the #NeverTrump ideology so deeply ingrained that you're willing to simply sacrifice the Commonwealth? Apparantly so."


I'll do you one better, apparently, there were 40k more vote for the GOP than dems which means that in a pure democracy we'd have won. Which means IF WE HAD RUN CANDIDATES our odds of winning SOME of those seats was better than 0.

so now we get to deal with Governor Blackface, lt. gov rape'em, and AG Blackface II, electric boogaloo, taking away guns, making abortion available AFTER birth, skyrocketing taxes, medicare for all instead of our own insurance, and free everything plus sanctuary status for illegal aliens...

*spit

*types*
*deletes*

VA GOPe did exactly what they want.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (8D42x)

23 Undocumented guest monkey?
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (88+cf)

he's typing up his documents right now, see
Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (G546f)

First page of Taming of the Shrew

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (Q5ALd)

24 Undocumented guest monkey?

You never know, he may have been the one infinite monkey who recreated the works of Shakespeare.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (xSo9G)

25 Been living in Massachusetts since 2000. Yeah, it's a deep blue state, no doubt about it. One year (2004), we actually had something like 125 legislative candidates (about 100 for the 160 member house and the rest for the 40 member Senate). It's the only thing I think Rmoney did right during his 4-year stint as governor.

Problem was, they got pantsed on election day. Why? Because Jean Francois Kerry (D-Saigon) was on the top of the ballot against Chimpy McBushitler and all the proggies in the Commonwealth wanted to "send a message".

Don't think we've once had anywhere close to 100 combined house/senate candidates since then. Yeah, explain to me the value of voting for a GOP legislator when they're going to be outnumbered 9:1 once they get to Boston. And let's face it, these are Charlie Baker "Republicans", for the most part.

Still, that dynamic will not change so long as the GOP allows a veto-proof majority of Democrats to run unopposed every election.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (DU2N9)

26 aww weasel has a cute simian identity
Posted by: vmom starting to feel not well damn you winter virii

........

Get your flu shot, everyone!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (so+oy)

27 As someone who lives in Virginia, I'm still aghast at why the RPV couldn't even bother to run someone, anyone in those races.

Posted by: Blanco at November 12, 2019 11:07 AM (Ay9RF)

28 "The GOP -- A Wholly-Owned Subsidiary of The Democrat Party."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 12, 2019 11:07 AM (E+OcO)

29 We're not voting our way out of this.

...


Correct.

Time to form a separation committee with a 1 year deadline.


It's that or suppression and violence like most have never seen.

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (jKqaK)

30 First page of Taming of the Shrew
Posted by: Easy Andy Paine



Show the Pimp Hand.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (s2OJe)

31 BREAKING: Ronna Romney McDaniel Still Employed

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (Pzzpr)

32 corgis called by the way

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (8D42x)

33 I pretty much came to the conclusion that the "republicans" haven't been on our side since Pappy Bush. The GOP is every bit as infiltrated as your average college. Until our mindset changes and we use the same playbook the lefties are, the kayfabe will continue.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (Z1ykJ)

34 hola chamucos y chamucas

Posted by: Jasper Moore at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (B+t5k)

35 The NeverTrumps are basically trying to do the political equivalent of "tank the season" to get rid of Trump and rebuild the team.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (KUaJL)

36 Wait, let me understand this: Do you mean to tell me the Virginia GOP intended to lose 23 of 100 seats and intended to lose 10 of 40 Senate seats?


Astounding. Why be in business with a goal of failing?

Posted by: Zombie John McVain, Build The Dang Fence!! at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (NVYyb)

37 >>29
We're not voting our way out of this.

Ammo up.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (Pzzpr)

38
I read an article about the changed demographics in Va. the other day.....I fear it may be lost.
Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (X/Pw5)

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In our current environment (and for some time) once a state goes solid blue, it isn't coming back. Some states, like mine are demographically changed in a way that it can't be retrieved. But even where it isn't, the national Dem political machine will keep everything in order through fraud and general corruption of institutions.

And the GOP is 100% on board with that, because they are traitors.

Once the barbarians are through the gate, they aren't leaving.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (AzW6q)

39 Same thing in Bucks County, PA. Dems ran unopposed all over the place, and they took the County Leadership for the first time in decades.

Amazing.

Posted by: RobM1981 at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (zCTLh)

40 We're not voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

That's a Texas sized 10-4.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (lPXYt)

41 VA GOP is controlled by the Bush (now NeverTrump) wing of the party. They wanted the state legislature to go blue to support the "impeachment is what people want" narrative.

Posted by: Venus at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (lZaEn)

42 Suburban Moms hate Trump. Nothing is going to change that.

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Depends on the suburb.

There are other suburbs than northern Virginia - which is what the journalists think of when they say suburban moms.
Posted by: SH
......

Wrong.. it's a national phenomenon..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (so+oy)

43 You're right, Weasel.

I will also add that the Republicans could use a sugar daddy, like the Democrats' Soros or Tom Steyer. Soros poured tons of money into our state elections and got quite a bang for his buck.

And furthermore, I can understand people not wanting to run for office as a Republican here. Who wants their family harassed and their life ruined? The Dems here are dirty.

My last observation is that people complain here all the time on our local NextDoor site. But, I guarantee you they go to these elections, take the Dem sample ballot that's handed out, and vote strictly according to that, never having looked up anything about the candidates.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (aXucN)

44 I read the content, but there appears to be a missing link.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (m45I2)

45 Are you trying to lose? Is the #NeverTrump ideology so deeply ingrained that you're willing to simply sacrifice the Commonwealth?
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That's deepstate ground zero. The Republican Party there is Rino's mostly. So yes, they are trying to lose. And no they aren't sacrificing the commonwealth, because the uniparty is still in control.

Posted by: Its a dessert topping AND a coup! at November 12, 2019 11:10 AM (MEMEk)

46 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

47 44 I read the content, but there appears to be a missing link.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (m45I2)

Don't chimp out, dude.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (RD7QR)

48 We're not voting GOP our way out of it. Hopefully Trump will have a new party up and running in his second term.

Posted by: Ched R Chze at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (t+r9v)

49 Demographic change turned Virginia Blue. Better let that one marinate.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (lPXYt)

50 It's as if the GOPe doesn't actually want to win enough power to be held accountable to the rank and file, but rather just enough power to have the leverage to get what they want for themselves.

Posted by: davidt at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (l3+k2)

51 hell, one of the state reps up by DC said, actually fucking said he wants to make VA the cali of the east, and no one looked at that and figured out that we needed an add against him.

Or the bloody fucking peado who WENT TO FUCKING JAIL FOR IT, who was elected because no one knew until AFTER the election.

the VA GOPe, they don't want to rule, they want to be the last ones eaten.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (8D42x)

52 They didn't try to win with Cuccinelli and he could have easily won. I guess they tried with Gillespie but as usual, it was not enough. This last time showed a party in disarray. Sure there are lots of libs there now but no way the VA GOP leadership is in the top 45 in America. There is a special level of ineptitude when you cant take on Northam et al.

I saw a VA Republican suggested voting ballot. It looked like a surrender document.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (n13/j)

53 Well that's GOP-e in a nutshell.

The only really good Republicans are the ones who aren't scared to be total assholes part of the time, like Cruz and Gohmert. It's probably something about Texas that makes it easier for someone to get elected here, even if they're a total asshole, as long as they're right. I get the impression that much of the country just wants someone who's "nice" even if they're wrong.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (Kpl3J)

54 I'm going to apply Occam's Razor and concede that the reason for these loses is just that the Left are now in the overwhelming majority.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (Q5ALd)

55 Across the river from VA, in D.C., currently six 9 black-robed demi-gods (in their own minds), who are hearing arguments today about whether or not Trump can shut down the executive-order DACA program that Obama publicly admitted on dozens of occasions was he was not authorized by the constitution to enact.

I hope that Gorsuch or Thomas or somebody puts in their opinion the fact that "constitutional scholar" Obama repeatedly admitted in public that the president lacks the constitutional authority to unilaterally grant amnesty from immigration laws to huge classes of illegal aliens -- and yet went ahead and did it anyway with DACA, because he thought that it would gain him an electoral advantage.

I also hope that it's not a dissenting opinion that that point goes into.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 11:12 AM (k4dH2)

56 This is exactly why we need Trump.

The RNC is a worthless piece of shit. With the reelection of Trump, hopefully we'll be able to gain full control of the RNC, filling the top slots with Trump-loyal people and reorganizing for the sole purpose of WINNING.

Purge the trash.

Make American Great Again.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 11:12 AM (U6f/q)

57 The ruling class is just smarter than you and should be allowed to control you by any means necessary. Allowing liberals to win means they can come swooping in later and make you THINK you're getting conservative representation, but you're NOT because THEY DON'T CARE.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

58 The NeverTrumps are basically trying to do the political equivalent of "tank the season" to get rid of Trump and rebuild the team.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously



********

Starring Mitt Romney as Ryan Leaf

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (m45I2)

59 I read the content, but there appears to be a missing link.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (m45I2)


The Missing Link was an underappreciated wrestler.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

60 Suburban Moms hate Trump. Nothing is going to change that.

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Suburban moms aren't worried about actual suburbs. They're worried about what their "friends" on Facebook 1200 miles away think about them.

Because that's what matters now to at least 30% of the population.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (a7+mS)

61 Willowed, but too much cleverness to be abandoned:

372 366 Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

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So we get to witness the second Cummings?
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (m45I2)

What rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Baltimore to be crowned?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)
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That's a winner right there. Shut it down.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (6c085)

62 The Dems and their deep pocket allies focused a ton of money and activists on VA.


Now that it's a safe deep blue state, they will move those assets to other states.


GA, AZ, NC...

Once one of those states is gone it's all over.

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (jKqaK)

63 44 I read the content, but there appears to be a missing link.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (m45I2)

He's out questing to defeat Ganon

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (NWiLs)

64 Or the bloody fucking peado who WENT TO FUCKING JAIL FOR IT, who was elected because no one knew until AFTER the election.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (8D42x)
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I only heard about it after the election (nowhere near where I live, so no surprise) but I bet the people down there knew. It might have had more impact if the girl hadn't married him and had three children with him (still married). Might.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (aXucN)

65 40 We're not voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

That's a Texas sized 10-4.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (lPXYt)

Pressure is building. The status quo is untenable. What can't go on forever never does.

I can't say for certain what the future holds, only that the present cannot endure.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (J+mig)

66
Weasel you are way out of line.

Per the prevailing attitude we are to wait until Trump is impeached and/or unelected THEN the indictments will come and .....fuck-all will come of them , IF they come.

The only time that matters is NOW. Counting on tomorrow with the DemCommies is certain loss of--everything.

Limbaugh said it best--we are in a race. Either Barr/Durham deliver pronto or Schiff sure as hell will.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (91mOV)

67 I'm interested in the relationship between the national RNC and the state committees.

These were state races. Does the RNC get involved at all or do they have to defer to the state level committees?

Does the RNC help fund the state committees at all?

Can the RNC dictate how state committees are staffed and run? Can they dictate strategy?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (q80AH)

68 Hiya

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (arJlL)

69 Well said, Weasel.

Been saying for a while that we're not voting our way out of this.

Posted by: SMH at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (RU4sa)

70 44
I read the content, but there appears to be a missing link.

is that not lancelot link?

Posted by: Anachronda at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (sGtp+)

71 Same thing in Bucks County, PA. Dems ran unopposed
all over the place, and they took the County Leadership for the first
time in decades.



Posted by: RobM1981 at November 12, 2019 11:09 AM (zCTLh)


Bucks County has been voting Democrat (narrowly, but consistently) at the national level for quite some time. Last time Bucks voted for a GOP Presidential candidate? Pappy Bush, in 1988.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (DU2N9)

72 The NeverTrumps are basically trying to do the political equivalent of "tank the season" to get rid of Trump and rebuild the team.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (KUaJL)

one of the fucking fucks that did an after action here said the GOP needed to go FURTHER AWAY from PDJT in an effort to broaden their appeal.

i just can't even.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (8D42x)

73 No, we are not voting are way out of this. The VA map will be redrawn in the Dems favor and that will be that. The VA GOP made no effort and are a malignant joke. I suspect they are perfectly fine with that. Uni-party indeed.

Posted by: Puddlglum, a new Soviet Virginian! at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (tKWP3)

74 What does the GOP even stand for? Most believe they owe slave-like laborers to the CoC so that we can have cheap roofs and nice lawns. The other believe is some free trade liberalism that really does not exist when the trade is drugs, human chattel, and manipulated by currency fraud.

The idea the Americans deserve first shot at jobs, bettering the lives, or even welfare is not believed by over 50% of the the current GOP (and 0% of the Dems).

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (JFO2v)

75 "Suburban Moms hate Trump. Nothing is going to change that."

And I don't fucking care.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 12, 2019 11:14 AM (6XIQF)

76 I say Trump has a snowball's chance in hell to get re-elected.. IF.. if the Dems can find someone who, at the very least, people can hold noses for while voting.
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Right.

I'm sure the wine moms will gleefully ditch their insurance and luxury goods so they can feel better not having Trump in office.

If a wine mom loves one thing besides wine, it's bitching. And Trump allows them to bitch and stay wealthy.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (LQtHg)

77 The Conservative Case for Letting Dems Run Unopposed!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (1XNk8)

78 "I will also add that the Republicans could use a sugar daddy, like the Democrats' Soros or Tom Steyer. Soros poured tons of money into our state elections and got quite a bang for his buck."

Well, we don't have one, and no point holding our breath til one turns up. Just as well - all of the big money men, even so-called "conservatives", want Open Borders because it's good for profits. (ie the Koch Brothers) So, funding has to be done the old fashioned way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (Kpl3J)

79 We're not voting our way out of this.

And to judge by Oakland County, Michigan, we're not going to be doing anything.

Steiner will come before anybody actually takes up arms.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (Ki5SV)

80 Starring Mitt Romney as Ryan Leaf
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Now, there's an apt image

Posted by: Zombie John McVain, Build The Dang Fence!! at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (NVYyb)

81 Astounding. Why be in business with a goal of failing?
Posted by: Zombie John McVain, Build The Dang Fence!! at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (NVYyb)

Give us a minute...

Posted by: The New Bond movie at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (h4eZh)

82 I hope that Gorsuch or Thomas or somebody puts in their opinion the fact that "constitutional scholar" Obama repeatedly admitted in public that the president lacks the constitutional authority to unilaterally grant amnesty from immigration laws to huge classes of illegal aliens -- and yet went ahead and did it anyway with DACA, because he thought that it would gain him an electoral advantage.

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Roberts is writing this opinion no doubt. The only question is which side.

I suspect he will find a way to "split the baby" in that he will vote with the conservative block, but it will be so watered down and have no effect, that it will basically be a victory for the liberal block.

Voting with the liberal block would probably be better in the long run?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (sX1BW)

83 I get the impression that much of the country just wants someone who's "nice" even if they're wrong.
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ahem

*coughdistaffcough*

Posted by: the view demographic - so nice at November 12, 2019 11:15 AM (6c085)

84 Have you ever heard Ben Shapiro encourage his audience to join the local GOP and get candidates to run for office? Or does his speaking tour revolve around how colleges and You Tube are mean to him?

Say what you want about Cenk and The Young Turks but after 2016 they decided to do the footwork and get people like AOC elected.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (4thlk)

85 Bill Bolling (sp is off but who cares about that guy) was the old VA Lt Gov who was going to run but Ken Cuccinelli ran instead..

Bolling went on several shows about not voting or anything like that.. Definitely didn't endorse Ken (if he did, it was late in the game where it didn't matter). And he's about as squishy as they get.

It's not the far right wing that's killing the GOP. It's the center.

Posted by: Blanco at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (Ay9RF)

86 Virginnie's results made me think that the GOPe wants the Dims to control the House thru 2024 should Trump win next year.

That way nothing he does is "permanent" since it's all executive orders and can be reversed without any votes at all.

Just like the massive Retirement Surrender in 2018. A Rope-a-Dope that keep Trump boxed in with impeachment threats and do-nothingism.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (kauXV)

87 Astounding. Why be in business with a goal of failing?
Posted by: Zombie John McVain, Build The Dang Fence!! at November 12, 2019 11:08 AM (NVYyb)

Prestige and insider trading without any of the responsibility to the voters.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (J+mig)

88 Republicans don't run if the polling tells them it is pointless.

They know well ahead of time if voters in a particular district will even consider a GOP candidate.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (so+oy)

89 I am shocked that the Virginia GOP abandoned their state. I thought CA GOP was the only state party that is hiding under the desk! And the last two times, they barely got a guy on the ballot for governor, thanks to the jungle primary. Meg Whitman and John Cox, two people who can barely make a speech, were doomed candidates. Did the Dems pay the party to do this??

What is wrong with these people? Isn't the triumph of Trump's winning and his successful term proof enough that if you get out and fight you can win?

Posted by: PJ at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (qlTN9)

90 Also, it is not just state offices. The Dems and hard left are gunning hard for school boards, everything out there really. The R's didn't even make a recco for school boards and most local offices. They were as limp as possible.

If the VA GOP were a football team it is the off season now and time to rebuild. Clean house and start over.

And it is not just the leadership, it is the voters as well. They did not come out. It works both ways and in the end it is up to the leadership to convince them I guess. But damn. People will give up rights and normal schools just so they don't have to vote. sad.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (n13/j)

91 Hiya Weasel !

Hiya Bluebell !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 11:17 AM (arJlL)

92 Demographic change turned Virginia Blue. Better let that one marinate.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (lPXYt)

the fuck it did. the GOP got 40,000 MORE votes than the dems did.

that's not demographics. that some gerrymandered districts by judges in the last 2 years, the GOP NOT running candidates in 25% of the races, and lack luster support in MANY that they did.

fuck, I saw about 3 to 1 dem lies on TV vs GOP campaign ads. AND THEY WERE ALL THE SAME FUCKING TALKING POINTS!!!!!

if the gop had tried EVEN A FUCKING LITTLE they might have held at least 1 house.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:17 AM (8D42x)

93 All immigration needs to stop. All illegals and DACA all must go back. Anchor babies must go back. We will lose our nation forever if this doesn't happen yesterday.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:17 AM (lPXYt)

94 88 Republicans don't run if the polling tells them it is pointless.

They know well ahead of time if voters in a particular district will even consider a GOP candidate.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (so+oy)

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You still send sacrificial lambs out there.

You never know what's going to happen, and the best poll is the election itself.

Hell, just funding the filing requirements for the few dozen seats would have cost the state party a few thousand dollars.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:17 AM (q80AH)

95 "Suburban Moms hate Trump. Nothing is going to change that."

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hoors and sloots

Its hoors and sloots all the way down.

Posted by: Cosmo ologist at November 12, 2019 11:17 AM (lAfck)

96 The GOP are busy homeowners. Democrats are the Homeowners association President and board members.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (Q5ALd)

97 Now that it's a safe deep blue state, they will move those assets to other states.

GA, AZ, NC...

Once one of those states is gone it's all over.
Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (jKqaK)

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GA is lost already.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (al6UK)

98 Which Moron here goes or used to go by "VA GOP sucks"?

I feel like this result was predictable.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (KUaJL)

99 Starring Mitt Romney as Ryan Leaf
=================


I'm one of one that actually thought Ryan Leaf was going to be better than "never won anything" "happy feet" Peyton Manning.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

100 *waves to bluebell*

Posted by: SMH at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (RU4sa)

101 98 Which Moron here goes or used to go by "VA GOP sucks"?

I feel like this result was predictable.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (KUaJL)

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Witchdoktor

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (q80AH)

102 Suburban pussyhead moms hate Trump, not all of them are pussyheads.

The GOP gave Virginia to the donks, to some extent., they were telling the voters " give us cheap labor. or we're not going to bother" At the end of the day it's the donors ' portfolios that matter...and the graft. Their kids don't get grafty jobs without cheap labor and no tariffs

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (U7k5w)

103 @charliekirk11

Wow:

A new complaint filed to the ICIG alleges that the "whistleblower" may be violating federal law after receiving over a quarter MILLION dollars from mostly anonymous donations

Could they be coming from foreign sources?

No one should be profiting off this HOAX

More about this here:

@RoscoeBDavis1

So with about 30 seconds of research we find out that Whistleblower Aid is actually a company called "Values United"

And who founded Values United.....drum roll please

Mark Zaid

https://tinyurl.com/ye6z43tb

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (cF8AT)

104 Hiya JT - want to move to Virginia and help us get back on track?

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (aXucN)

105 Who the fuck thinks anyone from Chicago knows shit about politics outside their cesspit?

If this site is officially going Eeyore, it's worthless AND lost the major point of Trump's presidency.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (6XIQF)

106 >>They know well ahead of time if voters in a particular district will even consider a GOP candidate.

Are you saying they shouldn't have ran someone against noted sex offender Joe Morrissey?

Posted by: Blanco at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (Ay9RF)

107 64 Or the bloody fucking peado who WENT TO FUCKING JAIL FOR IT, who was elected because no one knew until AFTER the election.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (8D42x)
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I only heard about it after the election (nowhere near where I live, so no surprise) but I bet the people down there knew. It might have had more impact if the girl hadn't married him and had three children with him (still married). Might.
Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (aXucN)

Well...it is Virginia after all.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (NWiLs)

108 Hi SMH!

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (aXucN)

109 Righteous rant, weasel! Huzzah!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (q1Pj5)

110 97: Immigration and blue state relocation changes the voting quickly.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (U7k5w)

111 There is a special level of ineptitude when you cant take on Northam et al.

I saw a VA Republican suggested voting ballot. It looked like a surrender document.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (n13/j)


Since I avoid social media and the MSM this might have happened, but as far as I know, the feckless VA GOP did not run ONE ad asking the simple fundamental question:
"Do you want to elect the party that has NO trouble with a lying governor so corrupt he cannot remember if he ever wore blackface in college and so evil he can calmly discuss the "exact" medical protocol for post birth abortion in public based on his experience as a pediatrician?"

There are other similar questions that COULD have been raised like local police ICE cooperation, day of birth abortion, credible rape accusation againist a sitting LT GOV, etc.

Crickets!

Unopposed Democrats, not a problem, etc.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (BiNEL)

112 19 of 30 Contested seats went to the repubs in the Senate. the VA gopE threw this away. How much $$$ did they get in return?

Posted by: All about the benjamins at November 12, 2019 11:20 AM (vqIkG)

113 It's not the far right wing that's killing the GOP. It's the center.
Posted by: Blanco at November 12, 2019 11:16 AM (Ay9RF)

Our political language is backwards.

The Bush / NeverTrump wing are the far right. They fight for class privilege, and are fairly close to a feudal aristocracy in outlook. Under the original French definition, they are right-wing to a T. Monarchists. Unreformed Tories.

The Tea Party is a return to enlightenment republicanism. It's a left-wing movement by the same definitions, but economically right by modern definitions.

We are the center, they are the fair right. Adjust, and use it. There's nothing centrist about wanting to get into every Middle Eastern war, after all...

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (J+mig)

114 Who the fuck thinks anyone from Chicago knows shit about politics outside their cesspit?

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(Looks around at all the new neighbors from places like Chicago who are turning NC blue)

Oh, they know how politics works.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (a7+mS)

115 The voting issue is similar in Philly and its suburbs. Philly is irreparably broken, but its suburbs are quickly turning blue. Pretty soon you won't be able to call Pennsylvania a swing state. It'll be as blue as New York.

It's why I'm heading south on five years and never coming back.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (bkUtD)

116 Yes, they have been giving it away for years. The GOP is worse than dog shit.

Posted by: nip at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (Izot6)

117 80% of white people with degrees voted in 2016

60% of non college white crackers voted

Trump has a lot of room to grow. Not to mention picking up 5-10 points with black folks.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (LQtHg)

118 California R's abandoned the field too.

Posted by: torabora at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (Y274z)

119
If this site is officially going Eeyore, it's worthless AND lost the major point of Trump's presidency.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (6XIQF)

The sites not going "Eeyore" - I think the point is that Trump and his brand of politics is the only source we can trust to be on our side. The Republican Party and the GOP-e are quite separate from Trump, and in Virginia they have showed themselves to be completely worthless.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (Kpl3J)

120 This is depressing AF

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (cCEFD)

121 I'm beginning to get what might have been the same feeling that the Indians had when the pale faces started to arrive in number.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (cqNba)

122 >>Starring Mitt Romney as Ryan Leaf


Speaking if which, learned this morning during the report that former MA Governor Duval Patrick, who is considering entering the presidential race, is a managing partner at. . . Bain Capital. And BFFs with Obama, who wants him to run.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (bDqIh)

123 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (1XAal)

124 >>>Oh, they know how politics works.


Yep, and when Texas goes blue we'll never win another presidential election.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:22 AM (bkUtD)

125 122 >>Starring Mitt Romney as Ryan Leaf


Speaking if which, learned this morning during the report that former MA Governor Duval Patrick, who is considering entering the presidential race, is a managing partner at. . . Bain Capital. And BFFs with Obama, who wants him to run.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (bDqIh)

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You know, since Trump is such a sure loser, it sure is weird that Democrats think there's still room in the Democratic primary for more candidates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:22 AM (q80AH)

126 As a suburban mom, I'm really getting tired about blaming the women for the hate. I have never voted democrat, ever. And none of my friends do either. To be fair, if these wives' husbands weren't failing at being real men, giving their wives permission to tell them what to think and do "or else", it wouldn't be this way.

A fish stinks at its head.

Posted by: overit at November 12, 2019 11:22 AM (sI15f)

127 If only we had more of your hard earned money we could run these counter ads in all the questionable districts. Dig deep conservative family.

Posted by: Ronna Romney at November 12, 2019 11:22 AM (Pzzpr)

128 93But we have to repair the world, even if we lose everything in the.process, right?

Posted by: Tikkun Olam idiot at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (U7k5w)

129 Who the fuck thinks anyone from Chicago knows shit about politics outside their cesspit?

If this site is officially going Eeyore, it's worthless AND lost the major point of Trump's presidency.
Posted by: Rob Crawford
.......

But.. all the folks here from New York and New Jersey are all political experts? Is that what you're saying, asshole?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (so+oy)

130 I'm beginning to get what might have been the same feeling that the Indians had when the pale faces started to arrive in number.
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I am absolutely not eating Hillary!'s heart.

Posted by: Brave, but not that brave at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (hjulR)

131
Farts!
Otter farts !

Posted by: Yo! at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (1XAal)

132 Why is the DOJ waiting for an IG report? Have you ever, in the entire history of American law enforcement heard of any LEA, much less the top LEA in the nation, surrendering an investigation to another agency, with no turf battle. Much less to an agency that has NO POWER TO ACT, just report?

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (Fxgkp)

133 It's why I'm heading south on five years and never coming back.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:21 AM (bkUtD)

'thass right you're not from Texas,
Texas want's you anyway!

Posted by: Lyle Lovett at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (Kpl3J)

134
Now it is snowing in northern DE and SE PA.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (pNxlR)

135 The GOP are busy homeowners. Democrats are the Homeowners association President and board members.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:18 AM (Q5ALd)


And the GOP Establishment is well paid staff on that HOA with sweet no-show jobs!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (BiNEL)

136 Trump was elected THREE YEARS AGO & we STILL don't have a SINGLE INDICTMENT of those who effectively disenfranchised us.

Horowitz is a deep state actor. Why is Barr waiting on the deep State? The DOJ is the top LEA in the Country with power to ACT, NOT THE IG.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (Fxgkp)

137 The point about "running candidates everywhere" is not only that you never know what may happen, but you keep the Democrats from pooling money and, just as importantly, people from districts where their candidate is running unopposed.

When you're in a tough fight in your district but your neighboring district has someone running unopposed it's truly amazing how many resources and how much cash manages to make it's way back into your district. How many close races, run by Democrats in VA in 2019, were the benefactors of money and people coming from Donk Unopposed districts?

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (DU2N9)

138 If this site is officially going Eeyore, it's worthless AND lost the major point of Trump's presidency.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (6XIQF)

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This site has always had its Eeyore moments. Rebound incoming. Just wait. They never last long.

Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (al6UK)

139 As somebody who lives in VA, I'm furious at the crap efforts of the GOPe in VA. Now I and my family (and millions of others) will get to live with the results of having a commonwealth government that has gone full retard.

Thanks a pantload, GOP!

Posted by: TimW42 at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (yrVvD)

140 From outer NOVA. Can confirm.

I received HUNDREDS of YouTube ads from the local Dems for months before the Election. It took me several minutes of internet searching to even find the name of the Republican running against him, and I never saw one single pamphlet, canvasser, or even a sign for him.

For reference, my federal district had a Republican congressperson as recently as 2018.

Posted by: Deplorable Astartes at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (DXTEG)

141 Here's something I've been mulling over:

Most people are conflict averse. We generally don't want to rock the boat and have anything too drastic happen. So when one side is very passionate and loud about something, and the other is quiet and meek about it, the middle people who don't care much or have thought about it personally will go with whichever group is louder. Because if they take a stand against that loud group, they'll be yelled at and there will be a conflict, but if they side in the other direction, there won't be that conflict.

For a long time, the Democrats were the much "pushier" party. The Republicans would roll over and as a result, things edge towards the left, because individuals felt little in the way of personal and social repercussions if they went that way.

Trump is just as loud and forceful as the Dems, but he's about the only one on the right that is. Republicans need to be *more* like Trump, not less.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (KUaJL)

142 127: Bitch does no oppo research on pedos? I suspect the fund raising peeps just took their cut and said FU

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (U7k5w)

143 Roberts is writing this opinion no doubt. The only question is which side.

Its a tax!
It's a floor wax and a sandwich spread!

Posted by: Judge (Dred) Roberts at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (88+cf)

144 Yep, and when Texas goes blue we'll never win another presidential election.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:22 AM (bkUtD)

If.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (J+mig)

145 >>>'thass right you're not from Texas,
Texas want's you anyway!



I'd be bringing five conservatives with me, so at least we'd try to stem the blue tide.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (bkUtD)

146 FIGHT!

Posted by: Guy Who Yells Fight at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (LQtHg)

147 138
This site has always had its Eeyore moments. Rebound incoming. Just wait. They never last long.
Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (al6UK)

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I guess he wasn't around the first Monday of November in 2016.

Ace was talking about becoming a progressive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (q80AH)

148 An OT question: is there video out there of anyone who was on the Ukraine call that said has publicly said that Trump did nothing wrong?

I just had an argument with a friend who has said NO ONE has defended Trump and that he needs to be impeached right now.


For the record, I also mentioned what Biden admitted to doing, but that was dismissed because Biden "was only vice president, not president."

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (Wmf3G)

149 >>>If.



Yes, if. Build that wall Mr. President.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (bkUtD)

150 Much less to an agency that has NO POWER TO ACT, just report?

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 12, 2019 11:23 AM (Fxgkp)


First time any one has actually thought about the respective charters and separation of powers thing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (BiNEL)

151 92 Demographic change turned Virginia Blue. Better let that one marinate.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (lPXYt)

the fuck it did. the GOP got 40,000 MORE votes than the dems did.

that's not demographics. that some gerrymandered districts by judges in the last 2 years, the GOP NOT running candidates in 25% of the races, and lack luster support in MANY that they did.

fuck, I saw about 3 to 1 dem lies on TV vs GOP campaign ads. AND THEY WERE ALL THE SAME FUCKING TALKING POINTS!!!!!

if the gop had tried EVEN A FUCKING LITTLE they might have held at least 1 house.
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:17 AM (8D42x)

The Republican Party has thrown in the towel to the demographic change. That's why so many are retiring, and it's also why they aren't running new candidates. The Left is playing identity politics and winning. They opening brag about replacing them majority. Wait until the 2020 census comes out.
What more proof do you need? Mass graves?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (lPXYt)

152 I only heard about it after the election (nowhere near where I live, so no surprise) but I bet the people down there knew. It might have had more impact if the girl hadn't married him and had three children with him (still married). Might.


Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (aXucN)

I can't remember where he's from, but i didn't hear anything in the tidewater about it either.

you'd think between the top gov apparatus and this dude, you could make a CRUSHING case against democrats in VA, but nope, would be the nice thing to do.

hell, i don't think the VA gop spent half what the donks did, and it shows.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (8D42x)

153 148 An OT question: is there video out there of anyone who was on the Ukraine call that said has publicly said that Trump did nothing wrong?

I just had an argument with a friend who has said NO ONE has defended Trump and that he needs to be impeached right now.


For the record, I also mentioned what Biden admitted to doing, but that was dismissed because Biden "was only vice president, not president."
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (Wmf3G)

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Well, there's Vindman's testimony who said that the transcript was accurate.

Most of this stuff is happening behind closed doors, so there's no video.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (q80AH)

154 136: The only one they want to indict IS Trump. The deep states protect their money

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (U7k5w)

155 132 Why is the DOJ waiting for an IG report? Have you ever, in the entire history of American law enforcement heard of any LEA, much less the top LEA in the nation, surrendering an investigation to another agency, with no turf battle. Much less to an agency that has NO POWER TO ACT, just report?"

What makes you think DOJ is waiting? They're not. That's what Durham is doing. Unlike the Dem's, who announce prosecutions and then start trying to find evidence, Durham is doing it the old fashioned way; getting all the evidence laid out and nailed down before announcing charges.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (Kpl3J)

156 Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (6XIQF)

Cruz barely beat Beto. It's not eyoring about the reality of today's electorate. Houston is about to re-elect a confirmed corrupt mayor who is on the downlow. The GOP candidate in the run off is a plaintiff attorney crook himself who I held my nose and voted for. I don't know what we can do to convince the LIV . They have to suffer the consequences before they change and sometimes not even then.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (Q5ALd)

157 The guest ranter has a calm demeanor.

Posted by: parker at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (kO3Bf)

158 137 The point about "running candidates everywhere" is not only that you never know what may happen, but you keep the Democrats from pooling money and, just as importantly, people from districts where their candidate is running unopposed.

When you're in a tough fight in your district but your neighboring district has someone running unopposed it's truly amazing how many resources and how much cash manages to make it's way back into your district. How many close races, run by Democrats in VA in 2019, were the benefactors of money and people coming from Donk Unopposed districts?
Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 11:24 AM (DU2N9)

There's ramifications to this in future elections too.

If you don't bother setting up the infrastructure in these places to field candidates, you have fewer teams of people working on getting people elected. That's fewer people who know how to do the job of managing campaigns.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (KUaJL)

159 Is it an Eeyore moment if it is complaining about the GOPe? Simply pointing out that, in a "battleground state" like VA, the state GOP fielded about 1/3 of the candidates they should have is just stating facts.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (wGbBR)

160 Getting promoted twats from Mark Warner saying AG Barr needs to go. Stupid twatter.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (Xvo1a)

161 >>>Unlike the Dem's, who announce prosecutions and then start trying to find evidence, Durham is doing it the old fashioned way; getting all the evidence laid out and nailed down before announcing charges.



It's like when we get calls asking if we have a warrant out for them. Answer is always no. Why give them a head start to flee the state.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (bkUtD)

162 Have you ever though that the GOPe has thrown in with the Dems based on current and future demographic change to keep money and positions of power?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (lPXYt)

163 "If only we had more of your hard earned money we could run these counter ads in all the questionable districts."



That's actually why I don't give money to the GOP. They use it to fund the media that hates me.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (4thlk)

164 156 Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 12, 2019 11:19 AM (6XIQF)

Cruz barely beat Beto. It's not eyoring about the reality of today's electorate. Houston is about to re-elect a confirmed corrupt mayor who is on the downlow. The GOP candidate in the run off is a plaintiff attorney crook himself who I held my nose and voted for. I don't know what we can do to convince the LIV . They have to suffer the consequences before they change and sometimes not even then.
Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (Q5ALd)

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How easily did Abbott win re-election on the same ballot?

Really easily. 55.8-42.5.

I think the tales of Texas turning blue are overstated. Not invalid, just overstated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

165 >>A new complaint filed to the ICIG alleges that the "whistleblower" may
be violating federal law after receiving over a quarter MILLION dollars
from mostly anonymous donations



Could they be coming from foreign sources?
- - - -



Wow, indeed!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (bDqIh)

166 155: We heard this about Huber...jack shit happened.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (U7k5w)

167 What will we call the state that secedes from Virginia? Middle Virginia? Normal Virginia? Sane Virginia?

Posted by: windbag at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (UdxnN)

168 Well, there's Vindman's testimony who said that the transcript was accurate.

Most of this stuff is happening behind closed doors, so there's no video.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (q80AH)

There's also the statements of the 4 translators on the call, who state the transcripts accuracy. Of course no video of them either, and there shouldn't be. They hold sensitive jobs, and shouldn't be put on camera as part of some dog and pony show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (Kpl3J)

169 It seems as though the Virginia GOP is the most cucked of all the State parties. Not even bothering to field candidates is a new frontier in cuckoldry.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (tVQUs)

170 Its the same in my state of MO, the GOP is nothing but a good ole boys/girls organization that really believes in nothing but keeping themselves and their families in positions to suckle from the government teet. It might look healthy due to largely rural voting but a well organized Democrat push, with plenty of fraud from KC and St Louis, could sweep the state.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (cGlgB)

171 Since we're past 100 -

I watched a lousy movie last night - 2017s Gangster Land, about the rise and fall of both Al Capone (played by Mel Gibson's son Milo) and his henchman, "Machine Gun" Jack McGurn (Sean Faris).

Awful. Just awful. Cheap costumes, lousy sets, bad dialogue. Even the main title was a musical ripoff of The Untouchables. And don't get me started on the dialogue or the filming itself.

I had one out-loud laugh during the whole thing. There was actually - actually - a scene showing a housewife turning on a radio, from which a Walter Winchell-esque voice barked, "Chicago gangland erupts in violence!" which immediately cut to a view of two cars, each loaded with gangsters, careening down the road side by side shooting at each other!

It was apparently so bad that IMDB says it grossed the grand total of $5,124.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (Ki5SV)

172 171
It was apparently so bad that IMDB says it grossed the grand total of $5,124.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (Ki5SV)

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Shoulda done what I did.

Watch The Apartment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:29 AM (q80AH)

173 Of course, what else does one expect from Bill Kristol's Home State?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 11:29 AM (tVQUs)

174 >>>It was apparently so bad that IMDB says it grossed the grand total of $5,124.


Probably better then Rise of Skywalker, though.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2019 11:29 AM (bkUtD)

175 >>You know, since Trump is such a sure loser, it sure is weird that
Democrats think there's still room in the Democratic primary for more
candidates.


Think it was phrased as "he's considering a run since none of the current candidates have the momentum to win."

"momentum"???

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 11:30 AM (bDqIh)

176 Watched an hour or so of the Maltese Falcon last night.

I dunno. I found myself drifting.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 11:30 AM (LQtHg)

177 Yep, and when Texas goes blue we'll never win another presidential election.

And that day is closer than anyone in the TX GOP will admit. I wish he weren't but Steyn is right: demographics is destiny.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 11:30 AM (qc+VF)

178 hell, i don't think the VA gop spent half what the donks did, and it shows.
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:26 AM (8D42x)
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I want to say the guy was Richmond area, maybe Henrico?

And honestly, I doubt the VA GOP had anywhere near the money the Dems did. Not making an excuse, just stating what I believe to be a fact. Do you give money to the VA GOP? I sure don't. I give to individual candidates, and frankly, my track record stinks.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:30 AM (aXucN)

179 OT: Whistleblower complaint filed against whistleblower:

https://fxn.ws/32EV7kl

Heh. Charles Ortel pointed out the charity, GoFundMe, and Compass Rose fraud this weekend.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 11:31 AM (jyVW0)

180 This is not the hill to campaign on.

Posted by: Republicucks at November 12, 2019 11:31 AM (2Mnv1)

181 How easily did Abbott win re-election on the same ballot?

Really easily. 55.8-42.5.

I think the tales of Texas turning blue are overstated. Not invalid, just overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

Cruz is unpopular with a lot of the NeverTrump types and Low Information Republicans.

He underperformed. Some people left that spot blank, and some saboteurs even voted for Beto to try to get rid of him.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:31 AM (J+mig)

182 The GOP will not show up for the impeachment fight either. They'll complain about fairness and due process, but their defense of Trump will be anemic.

Posted by: McCool at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (lWCRE)

183 Hilz' heart looks like licorice. Might taste like it.

Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (RuIsu)

184 And that day is closer than anyone in the TX GOP will admit. I wish he weren't but Steyn is right: demographics is destiny.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 11:30 AM (qc+VF)
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The big eye-opener for me was when Cruz almost lost to freakin' Beto. I was horrified.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (aXucN)

185 To all the Texas morons: This post is relevant to our sitting senator John McCornyn. Mr. McCornyn is actively supporting Mike Lee's S386 that will flood the country with foreign tech workers.

A call to his Houston office reveals the field offices will not discuss pending votes. The fellow said they are not able to maintain their service to the 28 million Texans Mr. Cornyn serves AND keep up with his current positions on current issues. They gave me his DC number which is not taking calls other than accepting voicemail.

Acquaint yourselves with Dwayne Stovall.

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (XTiHL)

186 What will we call the state that secedes from Virginia? Middle Virginia? Normal Virginia? Sane Virginia?

How about Rest Virginia?

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (jyVW0)

187 Speaking if which, learned this morning during the report that former MA Governor Duval Patrick, who is considering entering the presidential race, is a managing partner at. . . Bain Capital. And BFFs with Obama, who wants him to run.

Deval has no chance.

He's making noise to angle for a cabinet slot or, at most, a VP slot. I will die of sexual exhaustion before he becomes the Dem nominee.

And if, by some miracle, he ended up on the stage next to Teh Donald? Deval Patrick is the asshole who said 9/11 was caused by "a failure of understanding." Trump would shove that so far down Cadillac DeVal's throat it would pop out his squeakhole.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (Ki5SV)

188 Really easily. 55.8-42.5.

I think the tales of Texas turning blue are overstated. Not invalid, just overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

I agree - and John Cornyn is going to turn in the same kind of numbers as Abbott did, no matter who the Dem's run. It pains some conservatives to hear it, but Cornyn is more popular in Texas than Cruz, because he's "nicer".

Beto had a magnificent publicity machine, backed up by his father in law's billions. He managed to make himself a pop phenomena, an amazing achievement. Funny that Beto didn't realize that something like that could only last for a few months, and like any fad, once it burned out it was gone forever. Beto is the Chia Pet of Politics.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (Kpl3J)

189 POOF!

Aw, that's sort of sad that user "No" is banned. He's putting on an act, after all. He admitted it a couple of months ago.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (a7+mS)

190
I read an article about the changed demographics in Va. the other day.....I fear it may be lost.>>
Creeping cancer of NoVa has metastasized along 95, 64 and 81. Little hope now if GOP is not going to contest races. Maybe if Trump moves enough swamp critters out of DC.

Posted by: FrodoB at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (yKnQb)

191 I live in the VA county that just elected bird-Flipper the bicycle woman to county board.

Or board flipped too, to 6-3 D from an R majority.

My district saw some of the greatest growth in the county (because we have most of the unbuilt land zoned for housing), and a big fat chunk of it was caricature wine mom families.

Our R supe was re-elected with over 60% of the district vote.

It isn't because he's a RINO or a squish, its because he takes the job seriously and works the hell out of it--he's a young guy who is on top of his contacts, and personally responds quickly, courteously, efficiently (and bluntly when needed) to every constituent concern.

The Ds who live here and voted for him respect him even if they don't always agree with his positions (which he always explains and defends), and this is now the third time a sizeable majority of district residents has placed him in office.

The local and state committees have the same problems on both the NeverTrump pro-GOPe side, AND the Purer Than Thou base side: arrogance, sanctimony, and proud renunciation of any aspect of working together for a larger common goal.

Both sides are the only sides that are correct, the other side is not wrong but evil, and both spend more time fighting each other than fighting Ds, then proudly, loudly, and obnoxiously sitting on their hands when the "wrong" candidate ends up on the ballot, and pleasurably moaning "told ya so" if they lose.

We draw blood from one another every year on a damn nominating process, then take the results to court or better yet, stage protest conventions and canvasses when a local jurisdiction votes "wrong" in committee on that selection process.

The Ds often don't have to do any oppo research, they just have to read social media and take notes while the Rs are screaming at each other.

It is mostly the proximity to DC, IMO (and I was born in Dc and grew up in NoVA when it had actual farms), and neither D nor R are immune, nor suburban OR "rural" fed workers (who drive 50 miles to their job on K St or the Hill while the au pair takes little Sydney to pony club after day school): to compete in this environment, you need competence in a skill set, AND the go to compete with it.

Thus most people here have a strong Dunning Kruger going on, because their ego leads them to believe they are good and smart about everything, better than anyone else even, because they can do whatever it may be that they do well enough to pull down 7 figures doing it.

And that is true whether they are Never Trump, or Pure Conservative.

Until we stop the circular bloodletting and renunciatory refusal to engage in anything that isn't my way (and only my way) or the highway, VA will continue to be blue

Posted by: barbarausa at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (W7IZQ)

192 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

I don't think it will turn blue anytime soon though it was blue as recently as 1994. It's trending that way though.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (Q5ALd)

193 There's also the statements of the 4 translators on the call, who
state the transcripts accuracy. Of course no video of them either, and
there shouldn't be. They hold sensitive jobs, and shouldn't be put on
camera as part of some dog and pony show.




Yeah, that's the problem. If there is no video, my friend (who now may be my former friend) will not believe it. He just goes to "Trump bribed them" or "they have to say that or lose their jobs." Or some other excuse.

Sigh. It's sad losing a friend, but there you go. People believe what they want to believe.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (Wmf3G)

194 Weasel,
I agree completely with your assessment and anger. I don't say more for Ace's sake. But this is behind some of my comments on the Sunday evening thread.

Of no importance: I really like the typewriter in the photo.

Commentary to come next Sunday but I am becoming a fan of the 41 magnum.

Posted by: JTB at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (bmdz3)

195 Back when my son was playing baseball I happened to run into a retired Fairfax Public School teacher at a ballgame. He told me he was a history teacher. I replied that I loved taking Virginia history and especially the 7th grad text that was used to teach it. He quickly responded that they had gotten rid of that book. It was noticeable that this history book offended him personally for some reason. I then asked him where he was from. He answered, Brooklyn. Enough said. Virginia is once again being reconstructed by our betters.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (yRAFu)

196 I have enough en-bloc clips to extricate myself if voting isn't enough.

Much rather vote, though.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (KATBx)

197 What will we call the state that secedes from Virginia? Middle Virginia? Normal Virginia? Sane Virginia?

How about Rest Virginia?
Posted by: t-bird


Less West Virginia?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (s2OJe)

198 POOF!

Dang, Kurt, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (a7+mS)

199 An OT question: is there video out there of anyone who was on the Ukraine call that said has publicly said that Trump did nothing wrong?

I just had an argument with a friend who has said NO ONE has defended Trump and that he needs to be impeached right now.


For the record, I also mentioned what Biden admitted to doing, but that was dismissed because Biden "was only vice president, not president."
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (Wmf3G)

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Well, there's Vindman's testimony who said that the transcript was accurate.

Most of this stuff is happening behind closed doors, so there's no video.
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The sad reality is that most of these people have no real interest in the facts, because they've invested emotionally in the narrative that Trump is the source of their discontent. They are unhappy and they let the TV news tell them why. Mind you the TV news always tells them its Trumps fault. Having their delusions reinforced several times a day, make cognitive therapy unlikely to succeed.

They aren't where they are because of facts. Now if you could tell them a story about how they've been victimized by a shadowy third party and Trump is just a convenient distraction --you might reach a small percentage. (Because that narrative doesn't cause them self reflection it merely redirects them to a new villain.) Most of them are lost, however.

Posted by: The French Revolution start with the King, and work your way down at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (ykKPc)

200 Acquaint yourselves with Dwayne Stovall.

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (XTiHL)


Anybody but Cornyn.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (q1Pj5)

201 169 It seems as though the Virginia GOP is the most cucked of all the State parties. Not even bothering to field candidates is a new frontier in cuckoldry.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (tVQUs

They and their families cant be viewed, publicly smeared as racist, sexist, transphobic, anti Semitic Neo Nazis now can they? I'm being serious because being a state rep doesn't pay that much to have your life and family's lives destroyed.

Look at the example made of Trump and his family.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (lPXYt)

202 181 How easily did Abbott win re-election on the same ballot?

Really easily. 55.8-42.5.

I think the tales of Texas turning blue are overstated. Not invalid, just overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

Cruz is unpopular with a lot of the NeverTrump types and Low Information Republicans.

He underperformed. Some people left that spot blank, and some saboteurs even voted for Beto to try to get rid of him.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:31 AM (J+mig)

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Yeah, that result ends up overselling the TX GOP's weakness because their most high profile race was close. But it wasn't close because the TX GOP is weakening it was close because Cruz himself isn't that popular and Beto had a big money infusion from out of state that carried him much further than he otherwise would have gone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (q80AH)

203 "'momentum'???"

If you put them on that rocket sled from Mythbusters, that would give them some momentum.

Posted by: Chris M at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (eAZVt)

204 It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (QQ+il)

205 cruz almost lost because cruz wanted to loose. Abbot mopped the floor with his opponent.

Posted by: eff ralph-i-el at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (vqIkG)

206 What will we call the state that secedes from Virginia? Middle Virginia? Normal Virginia? Sane Virginia?

Posted by: windbag at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (UdxnN)

Real Virginia

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (n13/j)

207 I'm not certain what the Republicans are doing, but they have clearly ceded Virginia to the opposition.

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Ceding territory is what the right is best at.

"Hey, let's walk away from teaching jobs, journalism, entertainment fields, and academia. That'll show 'em! It'll be like a boycott!"

So after 80 or so years of that strategy, it's just become a permanent behavioral pattern.

Posted by: RKae at November 12, 2019 11:36 AM (DQebX)

208 188 Beto had a magnificent publicity machine, backed up by his father in law's billions. He managed to make himself a pop phenomena, an amazing achievement. Funny that Beto didn't realize that something like that could only last for a few months, and like any fad, once it burned out it was gone forever. Beto is the Chia Pet of Politics.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (Kpl3J)

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He was a big fish in a little pond, but once he got into the ocean he got swallowed up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:36 AM (q80AH)

209 The Republican Party has thrown in the towel to the demographic change. That's why so many are retiring, and it's also why they aren't running new candidates. The Left is playing identity politics and winning. They opening brag about replacing them majority. Wait until the 2020 census comes out.
What more proof do you need? Mass graves?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:25 AM (lPXYt)

Ah, I seem to have misunderstood your point. I thought you were saying that the demographics were the cause of the loss, not that the gop has generally giving up on anything less than sure thing races.

i think the pure numbers in VA show that the demographics aren't against us yet, we got more pure votes. and that was with lackluster support and advertising. imagine what would happen with an energized push. i think we'd at least split the legislature.

but our fuck nuggets here in VA couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery, much less a successful election.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:36 AM (8D42x)

210 Only way to beat the demographic trends it to start indiscriminately fornicating and not accepting the consequences.

I just might be the man for that job.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 11:36 AM (1ISKN)

211 Unlike the Dem's, who announce prosecutions and then start trying to find evidence, Durham is doing it the old fashioned way; getting all the evidence laid out and nailed down before announcing charges.

Which will be announced on January 1, 2024.

When we will be told that there was "no evident intent" to commit treason.

And the bastards walk free.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:36 AM (Ki5SV)

212 I agree - and John Cornyn is going to turn in the same kind of numbers as Abbott did, no matter who the Dem's run.


That hurts. Talk about a RINO that needs to go...

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 11:37 AM (s2OJe)

213 The sad reality is that most of these people have no real interest in
the facts, because they've invested emotionally in the narrative that
Trump is the source of their discontent. They are unhappy and they let
the TV news tell them why. Mind you the TV news always tells them its
Trumps fault. Having their delusions reinforced several times a day,
make cognitive therapy unlikely to succeed.



Yep. Earlier in my conversation, I told my friend that he needs to turn off the news. He is being agonized by "impeachment." He told me that. I tried telling him that his life would not change if Trump is in office or not.


Sigh. Talking to leftists is like talking to a wall.

Also... the MSM is against him, so it's not like you can get any accurate links online, only stuff from people like Rush or Hannity and that's dismissed as "biased."

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:37 AM (Wmf3G)

214 192 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

I don't think it will turn blue anytime soon though it was blue as recently as 1994. It's trending that way though.
Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (Q5ALd)

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There's trending, which means that it could happen in a generation, and "Oh my God! We're all going to lose Texas next election!"

Yeah, we could end up losing Texas, but the idea that national politics will still be effectively the same in 20 years is kinda silly. We seem to be in a seismic shift right now.

Yes, the TX GOP should do what it can to solidify and further enhance its appeal within the state, but that doesn't mean that those of us outside of the state need to spend any time really worrying that much about it right now. There are other things to worry about that seem to be a bit more pressing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (q80AH)

215 Ryan Leaf: second in Heisman trophy voting
Mitt Romney: second in 2012 Presidential voting

Ryan Leaf: Millions of dollars in salary
Mitt Romney: Millionaire

Ryan Leaf: Played for four different NFL teams
MittRromney: Played forboth political parties

Ryan Leaf: Posts anonymously on websites as BEN ROTHLISBURGER
Mitt Romney: Posts anonymously on Twitter as Pierre Delicto

Ryan Leaf: Who?
Mitt Romney: Who the Hell?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (m45I2)

216 My Gov., Brian Kemp, not Tank, is doing amazing work on helping Georgians get around Obamacare, by opening markets, etc. to lower costs and give people more and better choices. Even my prog fish wrap is impressed.

But the die-hard socialists are not pleased.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (ptqGC)

217 cruz almost lost because cruz wanted to loose. Abbot mopped the floor with his opponent.
Posted by: eff ralph-i-el at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (vqIkG)

He didn't have a serious opponent which is mainly due to his success as governor. If Texas fails to continue on this path , anything can happen.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (Q5ALd)

218 I'm in NJ. Moved here 7 years ago. Registered as a Republican. I have *never* received one piece of mail or an email from the Republican party in this state about anything. Not a presidential, Senate, House, or local race. Nothing. Same thing when I lived in MD. The Republican party doesn't even try to engage their own voters, let alone convert any new ones.

Meanwhile, my lib relatives are inundated with emails/mail from the Dem party about every topic under the sun.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (COzlW)

219 Yeah, that's the problem. If there is no video, my friend (who now may be my former friend) will not believe it. He just goes to "Trump bribed them" or "they have to say that or lose their jobs." Or some other excuse.

Sigh. It's sad losing a friend, but there you go. People believe what they want to believe.
Posted by: shibumi
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There's no video because Schiff held the interviews behind closed doors.. that was the whole point.

That is what you should be pointing out to your "friend".

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (so+oy)

220 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (q80AH)

Said by someone who doesn't live in Texas.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (Q5ALd)

221 Texas could realistically be blue by 2022-2024.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (lPXYt)

222 Beto had a magnificent publicity machine, backed up
by his father in law's billions. He managed to make himself a pop
phenomena, an amazing achievement. Funny that Beto didn't realize that
something like that could only last for a few months, and like any fad,
once it burned out it was gone forever. Beto is the Chia Pet of
Politics.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:32 AM (Kpl3J)

The Texans who fell for it should be embarrassed as his schtick seems only regional He could probably be major for life in Austin though.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (n13/j)

223 220 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:38 AM (q80AH)

Said by someone who doesn't live in Texas.
Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (Q5ALd)

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Ok, boomer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (q80AH)

224 Ohio is no longer a swing state. It's solidly red.

VA is solidly blue.

I don't think GA or TX will go blue in the next few cycles but I'm sure there will be offsets.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (LQtHg)

225 Back in Bush times I lived in DC and had a Bush Bumper sticker on my car. No one defaced it but I was in a gas station somewhere south of DC and a guy came up to me to tell me he had never seen anyone with DC plates with a Bush sticker. I'm special that way. Too bad I didn't realize I should have had a Perot sticker.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 11:41 AM (yRAFu)

226 And honestly, I doubt the VA GOP had anywhere near the money the Dems did. Not making an excuse, just stating what I believe to be a fact. Do you give money to the VA GOP? I sure don't. I give to individual candidates, and frankly, my track record stinks.


Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:30 AM (aXucN)

if your track record is that bad, you should give to the dems. might be a kiss of death..

*preps to dodge shank*

and no, i don't give to the VA GOP either. they've done a decent job of convinving me they don't want my dirty conservative money.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:41 AM (8D42x)

227 224 Ohio is no longer a swing state. It's solidly red.

VA is solidly blue.

I don't think GA or TX will go blue in the next few cycles but I'm sure there will be offsets.
Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (LQtHg)

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GA's secretary of state, and now governor, has taken vote integrity seriously. I think GA's danger of going blue is lower now than it was a couple of years ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)

228 "'momentum'???"

If you put them on that rocket sled from Mythbusters, that would give them some momentum.
Posted by: Chris M at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (eAZVt)


I love those episodes. The surprised look of awe on the Mythbusters' faces as the rocket sleds haul ass by is priceless.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 11:41 AM (aS1PU)

229 Probably most Virginia Republican officials not-so-secretly agree with the Democrats, despise the rest of the US, and have joined the #Resistance by now.
More involvement and enthusiasm brought about by Trump may be the last thing they want.

Posted by: PG at November 12, 2019 11:41 AM (iqCkn)

230 Colorado is no longer purple. It's not even blue. Under the daring leadership of openly gay governor Jared Polis it's now rainbow!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:42 AM (m45I2)

231 >>And if, by some miracle, he ended up on the stage next to Teh Donald? Deval Patrick is the asshole who said 9/11 was caused by "a failure of understanding." Trump would shove that so far down Cadillac DeVal's throat it would pop out his squeakhole.


Hoo boy, what a jerk Deval is. Explains why he's friends with TFG.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 11:42 AM (bDqIh)

232 http://bit.ly/2NJMf8V
*******
Prager U Video: Kanye West Declares the Republican Party Freed the Slaves | Frontpagemag

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 11:42 AM (BqBId)

233 198 POOF!

Dang, Kurt, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:34 AM (a7+mS)

It's too bad because this is ESL Kurt, who is eminently mockworthy. I guess I'll have to work now.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 11:42 AM (RD7QR)

234 There were so many Dems running for Houston City Council slots that most of those races will have a runoff election. Very few Republicans had their hat in the ring.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 11:42 AM (q1Pj5)

235 Creeping cancer of NoVa has metastasized along 95, 64 and 81. Little hope now if GOP is not going to contest races. Maybe if Trump moves enough swamp critters out of DC.

Posted by: FrodoB at November 12, 2019 11:33 AM (yKnQb)

I met lots of folks in Winchester area that worked in the swamp....1.5 hr. commute...no problem.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (X/Pw5)

236 Which will be announced on January 1, 2024.

When we will be told that there was "no evident intent" to commit treason.

And the bastards walk free.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:36 AM (Ki5SV)

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My money is still on "The results would be too damaging to the nation if they are made public, so we will seal them up for 50 years."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (a7+mS)

237 There's no video because Schiff held the interviews behind closed doors.. that was the whole point.



That is what you should be pointing out to your "friend".


Good point. I will.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (Wmf3G)

238 Colorado is no longer purple. It's not even blue. Under the daring
leadership of openly gay governor Jared Polis it's now rainbow!

Oh.
Joy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (HaL55)

239 My Gov., Brian Kemp, not Tank, is doing amazing work on helping Georgians get around Obamacare, by opening markets, etc. to lower costs and give people more and better choices. Even my prog fish wrap is impressed.

But the die-hard socialists are not pleased.
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Because Govt Run Health care is where the control is at. They can sign you up for a death panel lickity split if you don't donate. remember how the secretary of health had the Obama care waiver authority for organizations/businesses and simultaneously was the head of DNC fund raising? Coincidence I think not.

Posted by: There are no coincidences at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (xVT/W)

240 TJM, since you're going through his films, have you ever read Ed Sikov's On Sunset Boulevard: The Life and Times of Billy Wilder? I recommend it.

https://tinyurl.com/ydon7jbk

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (Ki5SV)

241 Those "natural conservatives" invading from south of the border have many many children. Non Mormons and non Catholics are probably averaging 1, if that.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (lPXYt)

242 The guest ranter has a calm demeanor.
Posted by: parker
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I've learned that Weasel's comments tend to be couched in substance, rather than emotion. When the latter manifests itself, it is with good cause.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (Qwtw1)

243 GA's secretary of state, and now governor, has taken vote integrity seriously. I think GA's danger of going blue is lower now than it was a couple of years ago.
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Agreed. I live in GA but haven't followed local politics closely.

My sense was that GA would flip blue soon but that's changed.

I think NC is a better target for the Dems.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (LQtHg)

244 Ok, boomer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:40 AM (q80AH)

Whatever corky.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (Q5ALd)

245 240 TJM, since you're going through his films, have you ever read Ed Sikov's On Sunset Boulevard: The Life and Times of Billy Wilder? I recommend it.

https://tinyurl.com/ydon7jbk
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:43 AM (Ki5SV)

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I have not, but I look forward to it.

Thanks for the recommendation!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (q80AH)

246 It's funny because I'm a Romney and seem to be unfireable even after losing the Congress and VA.

Posted by: Ronna Romney at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (Pzzpr)

247 SCOTUS arguments on DACA. Reading the tea leaves, there seems to be a consensus the court is leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA.

We'll see.

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (G0vdT)

248 Addendum: I'll admit I could be wrong about the time period, though. Or if it's ever released.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:45 AM (a7+mS)

249 205 cruz almost lost because cruz wanted to loose. Abbot mopped the floor with his opponent.
Posted by: eff ralph-i-el at November 12, 2019 11:35 AM (vqIkG)

Greg Abbot's wife, Cecilia, is of hispanic heritage (grandchild of immigrants) who campaigned for him extensively in Spanish Language markets. She's been Principle in several Roman Catholic schools, and she has close ties to the RC Church as well.

Between the two of them, they know how to campaign and win easily among Texas voters, and they are not threatened at all by an increasing hispanic vote. Other would be Republican office holders should take note.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:45 AM (Kpl3J)

250 Colorado is no longer purple. It's not even blue. Under the daring leadership of openly gay governor Jared Polis it's now rainbow!

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In Seattle, we have rainbow crosswalks.

I thought they should have celebrated gay pride by painting the highway brown.

Posted by: RKae at November 12, 2019 11:45 AM (DQebX)

251 Another point you should bring up with your liberal friend: If investigating a politician for corruption is wrong because they are going to be in an election, how will that not lead to nothing by corrupt politicians as far as the eye can see?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 11:46 AM (xfb67)

252 "Which will be announced on January 1, 2024.
When we will be told that there was "no evident intent" to commit treason"



Which sadly could happen. Look at Michael Avenatti, he was indicted in March, has there even been a trail date set?

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 11:46 AM (4thlk)

253 Last newsletter I got from Colorado GOP was about the steps they're taking to ensure Russia doesnt meddle in our elections next time. I cancelled the newsletter after that.

Posted by: MEAT POLES at November 12, 2019 11:46 AM (/QleJ)

254 GA's secretary of state, and now governor, has taken vote integrity seriously. I think GA's danger of going blue is lower now than it was a couple of years ago.

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Add an S in front of "lower."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 11:46 AM (a7+mS)

255 Colorado has gone to plaid. No way I waste a second worrying about that place. They chose their own fate. Hickenlooper for life I say.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:47 AM (n13/j)

256 And if Trump cuts a deal for DACA with the Dems like he said, how many millions is that immediately added to the voter roles? He said he would cut a deal with the Dems if the ruling favors DACA.

This is so effing insane.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:47 AM (lPXYt)

257 There were so many Dems running for Houston City Council slots that most of those races will have a runoff election. Very few Republicans had their hat in the ring.
Posted by: Count de Monet


Wonder if the voters in those districts voting dem had anything to do with it? Trying to challenge a Shiela Jackson Lee or an Eddie Bernice Johnson in their district is a fool's folly.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 11:47 AM (s2OJe)

258 4 Or the bloody fucking peado who WENT TO FUCKING JAIL FOR IT, who was elected because no one knew until AFTER the election.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (8D42x)
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I only heard about it after the election (nowhere near where I live, so no surprise) but I bet the people down there knew. It might have had more impact if the girl hadn't married him and had three children with him (still married). Might.
Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 11:13 AM (aXucN)

Well...it is Virginia after all.
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Virginia is for (child) lovers!

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (3Qu5L)

259 Acquaint yourselves with Dwayne Stovall.

OK, I just did. Because of a comment on a blog. Why haven't I heard of him before now? He'll have my vote, of course. I'll vote for a tree stump over Cornyn in the primary for all the good it will do.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (qc+VF)

260 My money is still on "The results would be too damaging to the nation Progressives and their anti-American "movement" if
they are made public, so we will seal them up for 50 years."


FIFY

A law that's unenforced when there's clear evidence that it's been broken is no law. I'ma talking about treason.

Tell me that Vindaloo's asshole lawyer, the one who tweeted that "the coup has begun" right after PDT took office, isn't guilty. I mean, you could, but what else is it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (HaL55)

261 >>SCOTUS arguments on DACA. Reading the tea leaves, there seems to be a consensus the court is leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA.


It was a borderline illegal act by a lawless executive.

Not really much of a case.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (AIGhm)

262 "Those "natural conservatives" invading from south of the border"
Damned mess-ee-can are yanqui locusts too!

Posted by: u no hoo at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (vqIkG)

263 256 And if Trump cuts a deal for DACA with the Dems like he said, how many millions is that immediately added to the voter roles? He said he would cut a deal with the Dems if the ruling favors DACA.

This is so effing insane.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:47 AM (lPXYt)

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What deal?

What are the specifics?

Does Trump seem like the guy who would just give everything to Democrats?

Are Democrats looking like a party that will give Trump anything?

It's an empty promise because Trump knows Democrats will spit in his face. He'll be able to use that to campaign on. "Democrats won't even work with me when I offer them what they want!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (q80AH)

264 Virginia is now solid blue. My husband calls our hometown of Ashburn "India Town". A lot of moneyed Indians bought McMansions here and they tend to vote democrat. It's sad because Ashburn used to be solid GOP. Mark Levin (he's in the same electoral district) predicted years ago that Virginia will turn blue and he is proven right.

We will be selling our home and might move to Texas. I hope Texas doesn't turn blue also.

Posted by: Oggi at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (Bk5Q+)

265 Like a lot of old, used up retirees, I'll often leave the TV set on for "background". I like Criminal Minds reruns and I like it where the villain gives off the "creepy vibe". This is the story of known furry and doll collector, Adam Schiff. That little pencil necked creep should have an exclusion zone enforced from any playground, school, or any used car lot with a panel van for sale.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (C1Lsn)

266 There were so many Dems running for Houston City Council slots that most of those races will have a runoff election. Very few Republicans had their hat in the ring.

Posted by: Count de Monet





Wonder if the voters in those districts voting dem had anything to
do with it? Trying to challenge a Shiela Jackson Lee or an Eddie Bernice
Johnson in their district is a fool's folly.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 11:47 AM (s2OJe)
They keep showing Urban Cowboy on cable. What a time capsule. That Houston is as ancient as Mesopotamia.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (n13/j)

267 Trump: release the IG report to the public immediately!

Low level DOJ employee in Cleveland: No

AG Barr: aww shit, we tried.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (UB/j7)

268 DACA was an executive memo. It wasn't even an EO.

SCOTUS will side with the people who we're entered into agreements with the Govt under DACA, but side with Trump on his being able to cancel it for the future.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (xfb67)

269 From the sidebar: Yes Cindy, your dead husband was up to his eyeballs in subterfuge against this President and God knows what else with foreign countries. Please do enjoy your millions and STFU.

Posted by: Cheri at November 12, 2019 11:49 AM (oiNtH)

270 261 >>SCOTUS arguments on DACA. Reading the tea leaves, there seems to be a consensus the court is leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA.


It was a borderline illegal act by a lawless executive.

Not really much of a case.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (AIGhm)

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"ORANGE MAN BAD!"
-Sotomayor's dissent, in its entirety

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:49 AM (q80AH)

271 247 SCOTUS arguments on DACA. Reading the tea leaves, there seems to be a consensus the court is leaning towards letting Trump cancel DACA.

We'll see.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:44 AM (G0vdT)

If they want to set a precedent that Executive Orders are binding for even succeeding Presidents, then Donny Two Scoops has a pen and some big ideas they might not like.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 12, 2019 11:49 AM (jp0Bv)

272 It was a borderline illegal act by a lawless executive.

Not really much of a case.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (AIGhm)
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Yet, it will be a 5-4 decision.

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:50 AM (G0vdT)

273 Trump will trade the DACA "Children" for an end to Chain Migration.

Which, is something we would have to argue about for a bit.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:50 AM (AIGhm)

274

Yes Virginia there is a Republican Party..........


where, hiding in tha hollers,when ya see one share yer Meth and kick their ass.

Posted by: saf at November 12, 2019 11:50 AM (5IHGB)

275 >>Yet, it will be a 5-4 decision.


I am sure the Wise Latina will have a cogent argument as to why the DACA Kids are Our Future.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (AIGhm)

276 272 It was a borderline illegal act by a lawless executive.

Not really much of a case.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (AIGhm)
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Yet, it will be a 5-4 decision.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:50 AM (G0vdT)

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I can honestly believe it would go 7-2.

I could easily imagine Kagan siding with Trump, and I can even imagine Breyer doing it too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (q80AH)

277 240 TJM, since you're going through his films, have you ever read Ed Sikov's On Sunset Boulevard: The Life and Times of Billy Wilder? I recommend it.

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I love "Sunset Boulevard," and I appreciate Wilder's talent...

...but I do think he was a dissolute scumbag intent on dragging civilization into the dirt. When his mask slips, it's very disconcerting.

"The Major and the Minor" is rather unsettling, and "Kiss Me, Stupid" is a disgusting polemic against marriage and a gruesome celebration of adultery. Probably one of the worst movies it's ever been my displeasure to watch.

Posted by: RKae at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (DQebX)

278 Trump will trade the DACA "Children" for an end to Chain Migration.
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If we get that AND an end to birthright citizenship, I will swallow that jagged little pill. Very begrudgingly, but still....

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (3Qu5L)

279 And if Trump cuts a deal for DACA with the Dems like he said, how many millions is that immediately added to the voter roles? He said he would cut a deal with the Dems if the ruling favors DACA.

This is so effing insane.
Posted by: squirrelly dan
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registered DACA people is about 700,000.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:52 AM (so+oy)

280 If they want to set a precedent that Executive Orders are binding for even succeeding Presidents, then Donny Two Scoops has a pen and some big ideas they might not like.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 12, 2019 11:49 AM (jp0Bv)

No, but you see, if Trump breaks THIS SPECIFIC EO, it represents a BREACH OF TRUST and DECREASES our ESTEEM IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY. None of Trump's EOs would do that, so they're fair game to break.

Or something.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 11:52 AM (KUaJL)

281 268 DACA was an executive memo. It wasn't even an EO.

SCOTUS will side with the people who we're entered into agreements with the Govt under DACA, but side with Trump on his being able to cancel it for the future.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 11:48 AM (xfb67)
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That would be a dangerous precedent as well. Imagine what a POTUS could do with that.

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:52 AM (G0vdT)

282 "Demographics is Destiny" is the old meme ... certainly one aspect of the Virginia loss is the immigration influence. But I'm not sure what percent of legal immigrants from a third world were involved in the R losses. Certainly if we go back 30 to 50 years of open immigration, and count all the anchor babies, the numbers would be more apparent, as viewed by proxy of the "Hispanic" vote.


The GOP (non-establishment wing) can and must win the Hispanic vote over time, and as Trump attempts to do .. win more of the black vote. But there are enough white votes for the next 5-10 years to win ... especially against the dysfunctional commie Dems. America First, One Nation under God ... that is still a winner.


We may not vote our way out of this, but we could maybe prosecute our way out ... if only #2weeks would sometime soon result in the aggressive indictments, full blown prosecution of every coup member, which we as a nation deserve. The Run silent Run Deep approach is good, if we are really in that position ... but we lose ground every day that we the left set the Narrative across their MSM platforms.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 11:53 AM (Cus5s)

283 >>SCOTUS will side with the people who we're entered into agreements with the Govt under DACA, but side with Trump on his being able to cancel it for the future.


We'll Cut the Baby in Half!

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:53 AM (AIGhm)

284 Let's see...one million DACA people would mean at least two million dollars in donations. WE SUPPORT DACA PEOPLE!

Posted by: Ronna Romney at November 12, 2019 11:53 AM (Pzzpr)

285 234 There were so many Dems running for Houston City Council slots that most of those races will have a runoff election. Very few Republicans had their hat in the ring.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 11:42 AM (q1Pj5)

The big problem with Houston proper is that most of it is now mexican, black, or vietnamese. If you look at demographics, it will say "White, 58%" but split more realistically, Houston
is
Anglo, about 30%
Hispanic, about 28.5%
Black, about 23%
Asian, about 7%
other nationalities make up the balance.

So Houston is clearly a majority/minority city now. Unless Anglo's can find a way to team up with Hispanics, none of their candidates can ever clear more than 35% at best.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:54 AM (Kpl3J)

286 Trump will trade the DACA "Children" for an end to Chain Migration.

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If we get that AND an end to birthright citizenship, I will swallow that jagged little pill. Very begrudgingly, but still....


Howzabout we stiffen our spine and just end Chain Migration and tell the Progs to pound sand?


That's what they do to us. It's way past time for some payback.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 11:54 AM (HaL55)

287 277
"The Major and the Minor" is rather unsettling, and "Kiss Me, Stupid" is a disgusting polemic against marriage and a gruesome celebration of adultery. Probably one of the worst movies it's ever been my displeasure to watch.

Posted by: RKae at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (DQebX)

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I haven't seen Kiss Me, Stupid yet, but I have seen The Major and the Minor, and yeah, its comedic premise leads to some weird moments that the movie just kind of glides over in the interest of not turning off the audience.

The titular major suddenly seeing the titular minor as a woman for the first time at the very end of the movie and immediately embracing her as a lover is...odd.

Based on that, I wouldn't call that intentionally trying to destroy civilization or anything, just trying to square a narrative and comedic circle that couldn't work once you really thought about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:54 AM (q80AH)

288 Under the daring
leadership of openly gay governor Jared Polis it's now rainbow!


Style guide suggestion: "Jared Penis".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 11:54 AM (ZGrMX)

289 http://bit.ly/2CE5BWA
*******
Report: Amazon Owner Jeff Bezos Wants to Buy an NFL Team
*******
OH JOY !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (BqBId)

290 ^^ Joncelli "I one thought of retiring to Blacksburg or
Christainburg"....

Jesus that raciss....................

Posted by: saf at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (5IHGB)

291 Remind me again why we haven't long since fired the GOP for incompetence and/or malfeasance?
Please note, if we'd done it nine years ago like we should have, the replacement would likely be in full swing by now.
Definition of madness. "This time for sure they'll do the job!"

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (Rvlwi)

292 The GOP has no identity; no core. There really is no set of policies or ideals that define the GOP. This makes it super easy, barely an inconvenience, for the Democrats to step in and define the GOP as a bunch of old white supremacists.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (O7MnT)

293 Howzabout we stiffen our spine and just end Chain Migration and tell the Progs to pound sand?


That's what they do to us. It's way past time for some payback.
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That's my overwhelming preference, but experience tells me that never happens. Even if it does, Hawaiian Judge will have something to say about it.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (3Qu5L)

294 What would compel someone to enter an election they know they will lose, expose them to being repeatedly smeared and conduct a campaign which will be totally ignored by the media?

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (fE1wp)

295 The GOP has no identity; no core. There really is no
set of policies or ideals that define the GOP. This makes it super
easy, barely an inconvenience, for the Democrats to step in and define
the GOP as a bunch of old white supremacists.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (O7MnT)


Old white supremacists are tight!

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (Z1ykJ)

296 >>Report: Amazon Owner Jeff Bezos Wants to Buy an NFL Team

The Seattle Gheys ?

Posted by: Ronna Romney at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (Pzzpr)

297 Virginia? What about California and Illinois?

Posted by: Inogame at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (1TU21)

298 294 What would compel someone to enter an election they know they will lose, expose them to being repeatedly smeared and conduct a campaign which will be totally ignored by the media?
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (fE1wp)

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How much attention is big media paying attention to individual state house races?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (q80AH)

299 So the SC is allowing the suits against Remington to continue. Didn't see that coming,

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (Q5ALd)

300 Howzabout we stiffen our spine and just end Chain Migration and tell the Progs to pound sand?


That's what they do to us. It's way past time for some payback.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
.......

You see a path to passing that in yer crystal ball there, do ya?

You got 60 votes in the Senate to do that?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (so+oy)

301 OT: Feel good video. Antifa kicks biker for Trump. Hilarity ensues

https://tinyurl.com/yjlvutro

Posted by: Cheri at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (oiNtH)

302 Counterpoint: The districts that went unchallenged were so far gone that it would have been a waste of money to pursue them. Dems played in more seats because they had about $10 million more than the GOP thanks to Soros, Bills, and Bloomberg.
I am now a RINO-NeverTrumper-Soyboy-Cuck, and I denounce myself to the highest possible degree.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

Posted by: Virginia Hillbilly at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (B2kqQ)

303 Report: Amazon Owner Jeff Bezos Wants to Buy an NFL Team

He'll buy the Redskins, then officially change the name.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (O7MnT)

304 It was a borderline illegal act by a lawless executive.

Not really much of a case.


why bring up what Roberts did for Obamacare?

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (XTiHL)

305 300 You see a path to passing that in yer crystal ball there, do ya?

You got 60 votes in the Senate to do that?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (so+oy)

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How about Nancy bringing that bill to a floor vote in the House?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (q80AH)

306
Trump: release the IG report to the public immediately!



Low level DOJ employee in Cleveland: No



AG Barr: aww shit, we tried.




Yep.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (Wmf3G)

307 .

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (Pzzpr)

308 278 Trump will trade the DACA "Children" for an end to Chain Migration.
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If we get that AND an end to birthright citizenship, I will swallow that jagged little pill. Very begrudgingly, but still....
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (3Qu5L)

DACA children, many to most aren't children any longer, have family's that are large and would get citizenship. How many millions do you think would automatically be legal voters if that happened. Now factor in those in highchool and middle school who are considered DACA.

Here is an idea. Train 500k or more unemployed heathy citizens to guard the border and begin the roundups and deportations with no hearing. Stop giving foreign countries welfare and aid to subsidize the training and salaries. Fuck optics. We are talking about the survival of a our country as we know it. We need to take care of our own first and foremost.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (lPXYt)

309 Yeah, that's the problem. If there is no video, my friend (who now may be my former friend) will not believe it. He just goes to "Trump bribed them" or "they have to say that or lose their jobs." Or some other excuse.
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Academe and the media (the latter derived from the former) have so psychologically damaged the public that they can no longer think clearly.

If I bring to a Liberal's attention the patently corrupt/illegal activities of Democrats, their instinctive response has something to do with Trump.

When I point out that they seem unable to objectively analyze said facts, i.e., consider them on their face, they are puzzled. I often ask them if they can consider any Democrat corruption without 'Trump!' entering their heads. Not unusually, the reply will be, "But Trump...blah, blah".

I recall the same frustration when criticizing Obama's economic policy. There was always the hint that one would only do so because one was a 'Racist'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (Qwtw1)

310 I love "Sunset Boulevard," and I appreciate Wilder's talent...

...but I do think he was a dissolute scumbag intent on dragging civilization into the dirt. When his mask slips, it's very disconcerting.

"The Major and the Minor" is rather unsettling, and "Kiss Me, Stupid" is a disgusting polemic against marriage and a gruesome celebration of adultery. Probably one of the worst movies it's ever been my displeasure to watch.

Posted by: RKae at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (DQebX)


Don't ever watch Buddy Buddy, then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (Ki5SV)

311 Nood politics.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (Zm+LZ)

312 Trump will trade the DACA "Children" for an end to Chain Migration.



And Chain Migration will be quietly re-started under the next dem president.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (s2OJe)

313 Not to fear, I'm sure this is all part of the amazeballs plan Romeny's niece has to cede ground only to take it back better and strongerer.


Also the GOP's message is going to be awesome going into 2020, "vote for us, we're not going to do anything of substance other than knife the President in the back but at least we're not crazy like that other party."



Also there are 20 announced GOP retirements in for 2020, which brings the number of retired GOP to 20 in the house, and 60 for the last two cycles.


Donk retirements?

Four.


The Republican party is not a serious political party.


And nothing Trump does can make them one.

Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 11:58 AM (JLrCS)

314 Here is an idea. Train 500k or more unemployed heathy citizens to guard the border and begin the roundups and deportations with no hearing. Stop giving foreign countries welfare and aid to subsidize the training and salaries. Fuck optics. We are talking about the survival of a our country as we know it. We need to take care of our own first and foremost.
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Like I said, this is my preference, but it doesn't happen in the real world. And if it does, Hawaiian Judge gets agitated. And no one is interested in reining in these fucking judges.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 11:59 AM (3Qu5L)

315 286 Trump will trade the DACA "Children" for an end to Chain Migration.
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He may want to but the Dem's will make no deal. None.

They need illegal immigration. They're going to dare Trump to cancel DACA and deport them.

Dem's don't give a damn about DACA recipients. They're political pawns who are only useful to Dem's if they're suffering.

They'll try Trump in the court of public opinion.

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

316 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:54 AM (Kpl3J)


Tom we previously lost Harris county to the Dems also. That was the canary in the coal mine.

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:59 AM (Q5ALd)

317 Nood politics.
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Why, that hardly seems possible.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (Qwtw1)

318 What would compel someone to enter an election they know they will lose, expose them to being repeatedly smeared and conduct a campaign which will be totally ignored by the media?
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (fE1wp)

i don't know, maybe they're not winning every race, but don't you think, just MAYBE that 2 of those 23 house races, or 1 or 2 of those 10 senate races could have been won, one way or another?

as someone said above, lack of a challenger enabled all that money to go to a tight contested race. and there were some VERY tight races.

maybe if some of that democrat money stayed in it's own district because of a challenge, that 2 canvassers don't recruit JUST enough voters.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (8D42x)

319 What I found humorous about the Harris County / City of Houston election results was the overvotes from absentee ballots. Early and election day voting is done by e-slate so overvotes are nigh impossible.

But absentee ballots are on paper. So in a race for a Houston City Council seat, with a dozen or so candidates and instructions to "Vote For One," a non-zero number of voters marked their ballots FOR multiple candidates.

The numbers who did so were far too small to affect the election outcome. But here's objective proof that paper ballots are not, in fact, superior to electronic ballots.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (q1Pj5)

320 298 294 What would compel someone to enter an election they know they will lose, expose them to being repeatedly smeared and conduct a campaign which will be totally ignored by the media?
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (fE1wp)

==========

How much attention is big media paying attention to individual state house races?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (q80AH)

If you run for city council now you and your family get the Trump treatment and nobody will stand up for you.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (gCAC6)

321 I had one out-loud laugh during the whole thing. There was actually - actually - a scene showing a housewife turning on a radio, from which a Walter Winchell-esque voice barked, "Chicago gangland erupts in violence!" which immediately cut to a view of two cars, each loaded with gangsters, careening down the road side by side shooting at each other!

It was apparently so bad that IMDB says it grossed the grand total of $5,124.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2019 11:28 AM (Ki5SV)

Lemme guess: she turned on the radio, and the program began to play immediately, no 20-second warmup period for the tubes?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (/sgva)

322 Nood politics.
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If it's Nancy Pelosi, I ain't going to look.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2019 12:00 PM (Qwtw1)

323 "The Major and the Minor" is rather unsettling, and "Kiss Me, Stupid" is a disgusting polemic against marriage and a gruesome celebration of adultery. Probably one of the worst movies it's ever been my displeasure to watch.

Posted by: RKae at November 12, 2019 11:51 AM (DQebX)

I don't think of those so negatively, they were in fitting with the mores of the times they were made. Also, while I don't think "Kiss me, Stupid" is particularly good, that plot is about the same one as used in comic opera for the last 200 years. (Cosi fan tutte, frex)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (Kpl3J)

324 The GOP has no identity; no core. There really is no
set of policies or ideals that define the GOP. This makes it super
easy, barely an inconvenience, for the Democrats to step in and define
the GOP as a bunch of old white supremacists.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 12, 2019 11:55 AM (O7MnT)

A radio talker said something that stuck with me the other day. This is a paraphrase but it could be right on. "If your kid graduates high school wanting to vote for AOC, it is because you didn't make an effort to vote in the school board elections".
This all comes down to local and state elections but most people don't understand that. There is a reason turnout doubles in presidential years. It is as if we are all voting for the prom king and them forget it for four years. But on so many issue that really hit home, like 2a rights and your kids education, it is the local races that really matter. The hard left knows this and has been doing something about it for years .

The last time the GOP had a real plan was the Contract with America in 1994. They did win with the focused message. It didn't last as these things rarely do.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (n13/j)

325 Are you trying to lose?

Short answer: Yes.

The GOPe is taking a dive in 2020. Just wait and see.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (7vvoJ)

326 283 >>SCOTUS will side with the people who we're entered into agreements with the Govt under DACA, but side with Trump on his being able to cancel it for the future.
________________

Obama gov't: We'll agree not to prosecute you "dreamy" illegal aliens for your illegal entry, or for your years of not filing or paying taxes, your identity theft, etc. We also agree not to deport you, to give you green cards, to give you access to various taxpayer-supported welfare programs, to give you taxpayer-subsidized tuition in our colleges, etc.

"Dreamy" illegal aliens: And we agree to accept all that.


Yes, it definitely would not be fair to overturn an agreement like this one!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 12:01 PM (k4dH2)

327 He may want to but the Dem's will make no deal. None.

They need illegal immigration. They're going to dare Trump to cancel DACA and deport them.

Dem's don't give a damn about DACA recipients. They're political pawns who are only useful to Dem's if they're suffering.

They'll try Trump in the court of public opinion.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

If he deports him, he wins public opinion. He ran and won on immigration and deportation.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (gCAC6)

328 the SC is allowing the suits against Remington to continue. Didn't see that coming,

Posted by: Easy Andy Paine at November 12, 2019 11:57 AM (Q5ALd)

maybe so they can kill it from the top bench?

i know, i joke to much.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (8D42x)

329 Or the bloody fucking peado who WENT TO FUCKING JAIL FOR IT, who was elected because no one knew until AFTER the election.



the VA GOPe, they don't want to rule, they want to be the last ones eaten.





Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (8D42x)

SturmToddler... if you are talking about Morrissey, EVERYONE knew about his history with his now wife. When I say everyone, I mean all his voters and every politician in the state. He was expelled from the GA over it and served a very short jail sentence for a misdemeanor conviction on the charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Thing is, literally no one cares for the same reason that marrying the girl used to be an absolute defense against charges of statutory rape. I do not like Morrissey's politics but Petersburg and its environs knew who they were getting when they chose him in the primaries (he was not the incumbent) and they knew who they were getting when they voted for him in the general election.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (nAiE/)

330 We'll Cut the Baby in Half!
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 11:53 AM (AIGhm)


After keeping it comfortable

Posted by: Governor Blackface, VA at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (Bz+Gi)

331
If he deports him, he wins public opinion. He ran and won on immigration and deportation.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 12:02 PM (gCAC6)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 12:04 PM (nAiE/)

332 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:54 AM (Kpl3J)

I lived a pretty good life in my hometown. I left because SW Houston is Central America del Norte. Two generations of open borders does have an impact. It was 1992 that Sam Nuchia as police chief declared asking for legal status of law breakers to be verbotten. That directive is still in force.

HPD General Order 500-5 dated 6/25/1992.

Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2019 12:06 PM (XTiHL)

333 Or the bloody fucking peado who WENT TO FUCKING JAIL FOR IT, who was elected because no one knew until AFTER the election.



the VA GOPe, they don't want to rule, they want to be the last ones eaten.





Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 11:11 AM (8D42x)

SturmToddler... if you are talking about Morrissey, EVERYONE knew about his history with his now wife. When I say everyone, I mean all his voters and every politician in the state. He was expelled from the GA over it and served a very short jail sentence for a misdemeanor conviction on the charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Thing is, literally no one cares for the same reason that marrying the girl used to be an absolute defense against charges of statutory rape. I do not like Morrissey's politics but Petersburg and its environs knew who they were getting when they chose him in the primaries (he was not the incumbent) and they knew who they were getting when they voted for him in the general election.


Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 12:03 PM (nAiE/)

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware it was quite so well known.

but i wonder if it could have mattered to the rest of the state.

imagine the #metoo adds the GOP could have run if they tie him and the LT GOV together. add in the abortion on demand even post birth, and it might have helped in a couple OTHER races.

idk.

just pissed off to see us do so little.

and for that fuck gov blackface to immediately start talk about gun confiscation and bans...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 12, 2019 12:08 PM (8D42x)

334 296 >>Report: Amazon Owner Jeff Bezos Wants to Buy an NFL Team

The Seattle Gheys ?
Posted by: Ronna Romney at November 12, 2019 11:56 AM (Pzzpr)

The Washington Bureaucrats, whose mascot will be Deep State Dave and his briefcase of pain.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 12:10 PM (RD7QR)

335 I don't believe it! Kamala Harris goes down!

POLL: Kamala Harris slips to 1% in NH...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)

336 I see quite a lot of folks (here and elsewhere) simply giving up and more or less resigned to either blue oppression or to a new civil war. Part of that is because I suspect that the average age of the commenters is about 29 which of course means that they are unaware of historical vicissitudes in politics. Add in black pillers that do nothing but doom doom doom posts which is rather self defeating. They obviously did not read the Little Train that Could in their youth.

I posted a rather lengthy rant that folks can look up if they wish. But, if you do not want oppression or you do not want a civil war where no one is safe then do not expect anyone to come and save your bacon.

Read up on How to Take Back your Government (by Robert A. Heinlein) which more or less is a primer to citizen centered politics at the local level. Put down the games, the movies, the art, etc. as time wasters that they are if you truly believe that our republic is in danger.

The first rule of politics is that the votes are in the precincts and a helluva lot of folks are not voting. To get them to do so, ask them personally, not through robocalls etc. To find them, go to where the people are.

If no candidates for your party are running, then step up and do it yourself. Run for city council, run for that state rep seat, etc. Done right, minor offices can be won by low cost methods of campaigning.

We always seem to call out the global warming folks that if they believed what they were saying, then they are sure not acting as if it is true.

WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM FOLKS. Far too many people express doom doom doom but are apparently unwilling to do anything about it.

People whine about the media, then start up a blog dealing with local issues. People whine about no candidates, then become one or work to recruit one from friends and family. People whine about massive amounts of money being spent, so what, Hillary outspent Trump considerably, while money is useful--remember ultimately the transference of money to votes is not necessarily efficient. The most efficient campaigns rely on word of mouth. People whine about GopE, then join and work your way up via the local offices--those that control votes have power. The only way you can do anything in politics is to join with others and forget the purity tests--accept that the absolute is the enemy of the good and go to win. Do not become a "beautiful loser" as Bill Kristol demonstrates in real time the disadvantages of that.

For you folks stuck with a terminal state party, found a new one like the Dems did in MN and affiliate with the state party-aka like the DFL.

I suspect that if someone revived the old Reform party in CA, they might do quite well not being associated with the old decaying CA-GOP. Blanket primaries serve a lot of mischief to do that sort of thing. Do what Farange did in Brexit, where good Reps are running, stay out of race but engage in other areas. New York has their second line option, and so forth.

To win, first take over the precincts, then take over the local offices, then take over the local state offices, then the U.S. House, and statewide offices. Offer an alternative, allow candidates to appeal to local interests, don't try to nationalize, homogenize, etc. Remember that big business is not your friend--they want the uniparty for obviously corrupt reasons, similarly government as an institution is not your friend, thus, treat them as you would as someone with a grudge against you and keep your guard up.

If you are in a GOP controlled area, then put the pressure on your officials and don't set back watching the termites undermine the foundation. Take back your local and state parties which means engagement with the system.

Decline, civil war, government oppression, these are all ultimately the sum total of individual's actions. The obverse is true as well.
After action reports with nothing done to change things, is simply fuel on the fire for inaction. And you have to keep doing them--which is where conservatives often fall short--they fight one big battle and then go off to do their private lives expecting the system to maintain itself. Like most things in life, what is worthwhile does not come without a struggle and that struggle, just like maintaining an old house, is necessary to keep the roof on and the structure from collapsing.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2019 12:23 PM (MItID)

337 Want a good laugh? Visit the VA GOP website.

Posted by: Joe Bar at November 12, 2019 12:57 PM (IpwN/)

338 "We're not voting our way out of this."
Then why worry about voting? If we're not voting our way out of this, then voting doesn't matter even one iota. The focus should be on whatever way(s) gets us out of this.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 12, 2019 01:00 PM (rznWS)

339 There is NO EXCUSE for failing to run a candidate in a world full of FREE social media that any savvy candidate can use to their advantage.

The RNC is worthless and stupid.

Posted by: Chris W at November 12, 2019 01:39 PM (HPcI7)

340 Fantastic piece. Thanks for writing and bringing this up!

Posted by: Draki at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (Fvogs)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Blaas flirtation.jpg


The Flirtation
Eugene de Blaas

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 OT: first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 09:29 AM (q80AH)

2 Sponge!

And I like it!

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (cF8AT)

3 meh

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (Fxgkp)

4 Paolo's here.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (X/Pw5)

5 first know throuple portrait

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (JFO2v)

6 First?

And the brunette has a nice arch. The redhead might too, though it's hard to tell with her socks on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (Ejm1K)

7 Peppino looks like he is scoring.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (yRAFu)

8 Read The Dog of the South this weekend. I think the morons would enjoy this book bigly.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:31 AM (yRAFu)

9 7 Peppino looks like he is scoring.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM (yRAFu)

He'd have quicker luck if he wore some shoes....

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:31 AM (cF8AT)

10 Free mustache rides for the ladies?

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 12, 2019 09:31 AM (GXoKW)

11 Nice little Blaas

Posted by: Thomas Crown at November 12, 2019 09:32 AM (NVYyb)

12 These are buxom womynz. A lot going under those bustles.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:32 AM (yRAFu)

13 Embiggened, the painting is even more vivid, very Norman Rockwell-like.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 09:32 AM (Ejm1K)

14 Lose the mustache, bud. Or at least trim it a little.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 12, 2019 09:32 AM (TdMsT)

15 Wakes up.
Scratches
Looks around
Dang...The Paolo in the early years I'm thinking.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2019 09:33 AM (axyOa)

16 Both of them are showing him their CFM heels.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 09:33 AM (Pzzpr)

17 He'd have quicker luck if he wore some shoes....

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:31 AM (cF8AT)

He's prepped for the grape stompening.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 09:33 AM (X/Pw5)

18 Alternate title: The Paulo

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (WqPYg)

19 So this is what Huck Finn ended up as an adult. I think he is trying to convince the ladies that painting a fence is fun.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (yRAFu)

20

Come se dice "throuple?"...


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (zBaqJ)

21 20

Come se dice "throuple?"...


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (zBaqJ)

Throuple.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (O+iVW)

22 she looks a little embarrassed, legs are still crossed away from him ... might take a little time, but her smile means he is making progress.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (Cus5s)

23 Ah, a Godfather themed painting. garrett will be thrilled.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (ZLI7S)

24 Posted by: Kurt at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (BA/Jr)

Ok boomer

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (KUaJL)

25 Could be Katie Hill's great grandparents.....

And Eugene seems to have a 'type' he likes to paint.

https://tinyurl.com/yh2altnf

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (cF8AT)

26 I have found 3 or 4 different The Flirtation online.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (JFO2v)

27 Where did they find the ginger?

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (yRAFu)

28 Interesting take, Kurt.

But I think it was Colonel Mustard in the vault with a crossbow.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 09:36 AM (Boy/L)

29 she looks a little embarrassed, legs are still crossed away from him ... might take a little time, but her smile means he is making progress.


Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM


***

Exactly. Those apples aren't going to get themselves home. Save some time and go for the ginger.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2019 09:36 AM (axyOa)

30 Quite lovely. It's life, I like life. Don't like paint splatters on canvas. More please. How about something bracing, like horses breaking through a snowdrift in jolly old England. Or ducks rising from a partially frozen lake.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 12, 2019 09:37 AM (N3JsI)

31 20

Come se dice "throuple?"...


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (zBaqJ)

1 burrito 2 tacos

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 09:37 AM (JFO2v)

32 The Paolo. Booking Friday and Saturday night.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 09:37 AM (s2OJe)

33 Posted by: Kurt at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (BA/Jr)
---
Kurt, you've missed your calling. You should be a speechwriter for Joe Biden.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (sWM8x)

34 What's a Vlinton?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (N3JsI)

35 The painting is good a really captures the sultry come hither vibe of the ginger.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (axyOa)

36 "I like your apples"

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (G0vdT)

37 I have this on my kitchen wall.

Posted by: Katie Hill at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (1s2j5)

38 37 "I like your apples"
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (G0vdT)

really like your peaches wanna shake your tree

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (JFO2v)

39 Chicks love a man who can't afford shoes.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (xfb67)

40 What's a Vlinton?

The microscopic orcs that inhabit Kurt's brain.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 09:39 AM (Boy/L)

41 13
Embiggened, the painting is even more vivid, very Norman Rockwell-like.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 09:32 AM (Ejm1K)

_______


Agreed. You can also just make out what looks like an earring in Paulo's left ear. Even back then they apparently followed the old San Francisco social convention for earrings that "left is right, and right is wrong."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:39 AM (WqPYg)

42 "I like your apples"

Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (G0vdT)

"Can I shake your tree"?

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2019 09:39 AM (X/Pw5)

43 Much as I like gingers, I'd go for the black-haired girl myself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 09:40 AM (Ejm1K)

44 40 Chicks love a man who can't afford shoes.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 09:38 AM (xfb67)

be is trying to show off those #13 feets and see if the gals pick up on what he is packing

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 09:40 AM (JFO2v)

45 Also: EVEN KURT SAYS EPSTEIN DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 09:40 AM (Boy/L)

46 I believe he is describing juicy peaches.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at November 12, 2019 09:40 AM (PbH71)

47 He'd have quicker luck if he wore some shoes....

**********

Harvest Mooning - a limerick

Fresh fruit is as good as it gets
Succulent juicy tid bits
The lad thought this beauty
Were ripe sweet and fruity
But she just thought he was the pits!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 09:40 AM (m45I2)

48 Where is Manolo now, eh? He's being held by the local constabulary, no?

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2019 09:41 AM (2Mnv1)

49 A Vlinton is clearly Kurt's hidden message that the Clintons are reptilians from the TV show V.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 09:42 AM (xfb67)

50 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 09:42 AM (arJlL)

51 A nice little slice of pastoral life.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 09:43 AM (VPncT)

52 Pornhub 1857: Threesome FFM

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at November 12, 2019 09:43 AM (RKQ/v)

53
Another Spazz-o-Gram from Kurt

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 09:43 AM (pNxlR)

54 Awww
Almost Norman Rockwell feel to it

Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 09:43 AM (2qWzw)

55 Flirting is a lost art.

Kids go straight to dick pics nowadays.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 09:44 AM (PkVlr)

56 The Paulo - the Early Years

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 09:44 AM (1XNk8)

57 The lighting on the left side of the painting makes everything look like a photograph. It's amazing.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 09:44 AM (gHCnG)

58
I, uh, teech you da stompy feet thingy! Whosa with me?

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 09:44 AM (pNxlR)

59 Kurtsey is particularly floobulent today.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 09:45 AM (oVJmc)

60 Has anyone in the history of the human race ever wanted a dick pic?

Besides Kurt, of course.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 09:45 AM (xfb67)

61 Looks like a photograph, at least on my phone.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 12, 2019 09:45 AM (3Qu5L)

62 Lovely picture. Go for the brunette because OUCH! My SOUL!!
Willowed at the end of the last thread and I don't want to risk a dead-thread banning...
------

Right. And because we don't control the media we only get one shot and

it has to be done so thoroughly that the media can't ignore it.

Go ask anyone you know who isn't politically aware

if they know that Ukraine was where the Russia hoax started and it was

the Obama administration and Hillary who did the colluding. I bet not

10% will know this.



Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 09:40 AM (ZLI7S)

1)
The media is going to do their level-best to ignore it and then,
failing that, cast it as "payback" and a "witch hunt" no matter how
"thorough". 2) You get no argument on the clueless-ness of the
population - I had to show, as in actually pull-up a link, of Biden
bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor canned to someone who
claims to be "very aware" of what was going on. He'd never seen it - I
told him he needs to watch something besides CNN and MSNBC every once in
a while, which went over like you would imagine.
I'm all for "thorough". What I would also like to see is something resembling, well, urgency.


Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 09:44 AM (DU2N9)

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 09:45 AM (DU2N9)

63 That's some mustache Paolo's sporting there.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 09:45 AM (NWiLs)

64 Don Cherry, hockey legend, was fired when he intimated that perhaps Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (2Mnv1)

65 the zoK of the NY mafia

Is was the zoK. I freakin' knew it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (1XNk8)

66 I see Kurt is off his meds again.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (JLrCS)

67 28
Where did they find the ginger?

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (yRAFu)

______


Since most Italians were portrayed with darker features (skin, hair, and eye color) -- and my first three girlfriends were beauties of Italian decent -- I was surprised to learn in my late teens that in Northern Italy they were fair-skinned and blonde.


Am reading "The Borgias" right now -- what a fascinating history with all the city-states being conquered by various neighbors over and over again throughout the centuries.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (WqPYg)

68 > Where did they find the ginger?

Gotta be northern Italy, also indicated by the presence of apples. Apples need a cold period in order to bloom and set fruit.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (tJvHx)

69 Has anyone in the history of the human race ever wanted a dick pic?

Pat Nixon

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (Boy/L)

70 is this the same Kurt that made a demonstrably false claim that in the last thread that the DOW has not risen over the last two years? So it was not at 23,358 on 11/12/2017 and it is not at 27,706 today?
I think if you are going to troll, it is best to pick something technically true and then argue from the specific to the general. Find something obscure but technically true that you can hammer on. Don't say something demonstrably false that can be swatted away by anyone. Particularly don't do it with well published numbers, it is too hard to bring feelings into it.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (n13/j)

71 I smell feet!

Posted by: Archer at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (gmo/4)

72 Has anyone in the history of the human race ever wanted a dick pic?


Six million Grindr users?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 09:47 AM (oVJmc)

73 Oooooh wee
Oooooh wee, baby,
won't you let me take you on a sea cruise?

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Krystol at November 12, 2019 09:47 AM (2vUDW)

74 The detail on the wall is amazing

Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 09:48 AM (2qWzw)

75 72 I smell feet!
Posted by: Archer at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (gmo/4)

Welcome to the club!

Posted by: Rex Ryan at November 12, 2019 09:48 AM (1XNk8)

76 Welcome to the club!
Posted by: Rex Ryan at November 12, 2019 09:48 AM (1XNk

Most football coaches yearn for victory, but Rex, he prefers da feet.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (N4xQB)

77 And the brunette has a nice arch. The redhead might too, though it's hard to tell with her socks on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 09:30 AM


I like the cut of your jib. Do you have an illustrated newsletter?

Posted by: Quentin T. at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (2vUDW)

78 69. not necessarily. I have cousins who are carrot tops with blue eyes who live just east of Rome. There are even fair haired Sicilians, just not many of them.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (VPncT)

79 Anyone else picturing the guy speaking like some racist Italian stereotype?

I'm hearing a, "You like-a da apples, yes?"

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (xfb67)

80
The ginger is a pouncer. Her girlfriend is mere seconds away from losing this round.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (pNxlR)

81 the zoK of the NY mafia

Is was the zoK. I freakin' knew it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM


Zod > zoK

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (ejd/p)

82 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure

-
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (+y/Ru)

83 The Horowitz IG report is going to drop Wed Nov 27 at 5pm. The deepest news hole they could find.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (UB/j7)

84 Most football coaches yearn for victory, but Rex, he prefers da feet.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (N4xQB)

With the Bills, he seemed more concerned with his wife's foot fetish videos than actually winning games.

Posted by: Rex Ryan at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (1XNk8)

85 Anyone else picturing the guy speaking like some racist Italian stereotype?

Young Chico Marx in 'Passion of the Wops.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (oVJmc)

86 Flirting is a lost art.

Kids go straight to dick pics nowadays.
Posted by: Nurse ratched

!

INSOM !

You ol' hound dawg you !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (arJlL)

87 Painter almost reminds me of Bouguereau...whose works always fascinated me.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (JoUsr)

88
Since most Italians were portrayed with darker features (skin, hair, and eye color) -- and my first three girlfriends were beauties of Italian decent -- I was surprised to learn in my late teens that in Northern Italy they were fair-skinned and blonde.


Am reading "The Borgias" right now -- what a fascinating history with all the city-states being conquered by various neighbors over and over again throughout the centuries.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (WqPYg)

Lombards(germans) moved into North Italy a bit more than a thousand years ago.

Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (O+iVW)

89 Late Academicism. I'm gonna go with a date of about 1880s +/-.

Posted by: Kris at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (OyyDO)

90 "No, really, baby, it's-a true! My father, he owns-a the largest orchards in-a the whole village!"

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 09:51 AM (NWiLs)

91 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure



I think we should elect Bernie Sanders in honor of Jimmy Carter so that he may see his dream of a Communist America come to fruition before his death.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 09:51 AM (UB/j7)

92 What's a Vlinton?

Twunny bucks !

Same as in town !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)

93 75. I love wall detail, not even joking! Especially peeling stucco.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 09:51 AM (VPncT)

94
69. not necessarily. I have cousins who are carrot tops with blue eyes
who live just east of Rome. There are even fair haired Sicilians, just
not many of them.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (VPncT


VELKOMINN!!

Posted by: The Vikings! at November 12, 2019 09:52 AM (gmo/4)

95 Anyone else picturing the guy speaking like some racist Italian stereotype?

I'm hearing a, "You like-a da apples, yes?"
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM


Oddly enough, I get the same vibe. Very Normanno Roquello, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 09:52 AM (ejd/p)

96 84 Most football coaches yearn for victory, but Rex, he prefers da feet.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (N4xQB)

With the Bills, he seemed more concerned with his wife's foot fetish videos than actually winning games.
Posted by: Rex Ryan at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (1XNk

And tandem bike commercials with his brother.

Posted by: Kris at November 12, 2019 09:52 AM (OyyDO)

97 79 Anyone else picturing the guy speaking like some racist Italian stereotype?

I'm hearing a, "You like-a da apples, yes?"

He's saying: I trade-a you my banana, know whaddimean?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 09:52 AM (1XNk8)

98 The ginger is a pouncer. Her girlfriend is mere seconds away from losing this round.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 09:49 AM (pNxlR)


Interesting take. I thought she was looking at her friend with more of a, "Really? I had no idea you could suck an apple through a garden hose!" sort of look.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 09:52 AM (DU2N9)

99 91 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure

Seems like they could take care of that at a Minute Clinic.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 09:52 AM (NWiLs)

100 49
Where is Manolo now, eh? He's being held by the local constabulary, no?


Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2019 09:41 AM (2Mnv1)

_______


Brings back memories of that great TV show when I was a wee laddie "The High Chaparral" with the character Manolito Montoya -- not to be confused with Inigo Montoya.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:53 AM (WqPYg)

101 Scrawny, mustached and wearing an ugly hat? Looks like soy hipsters have been around longer than I was first led to believe.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 12, 2019 09:54 AM (uaE7n)

102 Meh. It's no Lucien Freud.

Posted by: The Man on the Ottoman at November 12, 2019 09:54 AM (2vUDW)

103 55
Flirting is a lost art.



Kids go straight to dick pics nowadays.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 09:44 AM (PkVlr)

______


Heh. True. And they're called "Front Holes" now, h8r!

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:54 AM (WqPYg)

104 Run honey, he looks shifty. He's going to seduce you, then sell you to a bordello in Marseilles the next day.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 12, 2019 09:54 AM (hdzef)

105 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure


It's a little late to install one, isn't it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (HaL55)

106 Another one by de Blass:


https://tinyurl.com/s745nns

Now that's a come hither look for you.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (tJvHx)

107 Scrawny, mustached and wearing an ugly hat? Looks like soy hipsters have been around longer than I was first led to believe.

-----------

Fascist then. Fascist now.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (sX1BW)

108 So this is what Huck Finn ended up as an adult. I think he is trying to convince the ladies that painting a fence is fun.
Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (yRAFu)


Huck Finn never painted houses. He ran off down the river to keep Jim from being sold down the river.

The interesting thing is that Huckleberry Finn was a truly American Picaresque novel, which is a Spanish literary form (as in Lazarillo de Tormes) and I have never found out if that was intentional or not

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (1glZx)

109 He's talking to the brunette, but he's just using her to hit on the redhead. Poor, doomed soul.

Good morning. It's cold. Sleeping a bit late didn't help. The coffee's helping, a little bit.

Posted by: mindful webworker - fangers on muh mousin' hand get chilly at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (UYkjZ)

110 The redhead looks like Francesca Annis in "Lillie."

Posted by: Joyless Behar at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (Rbu5d)

111 The Simpsons went there.....

https://tinyurl.com/ydmlzlnv

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (cF8AT)

112 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure


*******

Probably an exploratory craniotomy.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM (m45I2)

113 > with the character Manolito Montoya -- not to be confused with Inigo Montoya.
And definitely not to be confused with Tony Montana.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM (tJvHx)

114 School Passes Out Flyer To Seven-Year-Olds Discussing "Implants, Pills, Condoms and More"

-
Next, the lecture on the birds, the bees and the anal sex.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM (+y/Ru)

115 maybe Italy has changed, but when I was there in the 90s, the guys were so forward it was unbelievable. Of course that is not true of everyone, but if you have not been there, you would not understand. You would have groups of guys openly gawking at women in a cafe. It was was to the point of cat calling and was pretty comical really. Any American would have had some real culture shock.

nothing racist about it, just a cultural difference.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM (n13/j)

116
Pro tip for Kurt -- wash the encrusted gender fluid and cheetos dust from your hands before addressing your keyboard.

Your keyboard's pronouns are "Satan" and "Your Majesty".

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM (pNxlR)

117 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure


---

Isn't it a little late to be giving him one now?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 09:57 AM (KUaJL)

118 If we accept the characterization of the media that Gropey Biden (2019 version) is the most "centrist" of the current crop of POTUS candidates, then serious question...

Is Jimmy Carter (1976 version) to the left, or right, of Joe Biden (2019 version)?

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 09:57 AM (DU2N9)

119 Such a lovely study in body language. And to pull off the subtleties in facial cues is no mean feat. Not a masterpiece, but really well done.

Posted by: red speck at November 12, 2019 09:57 AM (nrC0n)

120 Those girls are TOO OLD!

Posted by: Pedo Bill Clinton at November 12, 2019 09:57 AM (WdocV)

121 The Horowitz IG report is going to drop Wed Nov 27 at 5pm. The deepest news hole they could find.

That should make for some interesting Thanksgiving table banter.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 09:57 AM (HaL55)

122 de Blaas (1843-1932) may have been the original Norman Rockwell. The same 'whimsy', I'd guess you'd call it. But what skill! It's almost like you're looking thru a window.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 09:58 AM (CDGwz)

123 The Simpsons went there.....

https://tinyurl.com/ydmlzlnv


Also on the CBS series "Evil."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 09:58 AM (Boy/L)

124 Is Jimmy Carter (1976 version) to the left, or right, of Joe Biden (2019 version)?
***

Carter 76 was opposed to gay marriage, tranny rights and socialized health care.


He's was a NAZI by modern leftwing thought.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2019 09:58 AM (WdocV)

125 Probably an exploratory craniotomy.

Bugs Bunny phrenology FTW!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 09:58 AM (HaL55)

126 I guess those are apples ... very round. Rome apples are very round like that ... no idea what yellow varieties they had back then. Pomegranates are round ... and red. Oranges, pears, lemons? idk

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 09:58 AM (Cus5s)

127 Meh. It's no Lucien Freud.

Posted by: The Man on the Ottoman at November 12, 2019 09:54 AM (2vUDW)

Just wait...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2019 09:58 AM (wEL+7)

128 Now that's a come hither look for you.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 09:55 AM (tJvHx)


I'll say!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 09:59 AM (hLRSq)

129 The Horowitz IG report is going to drop Wed Nov 27 at 5pm. The deepest news hole they could find.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 09:50 AM (UB/j7)

Meaning that by 08:30 on Monday the 2nd of December it will be declared "ancient news" and "no-longer relevant" by our "totes don't pick sides" "news" media.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 09:59 AM (DU2N9)

130 Is Jimmy Carter (1976 version) to the left, or right, of Joe Biden (2019 version)?

1976 Jimmah is George Wallace compared to Biden.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 09:59 AM (Boy/L)

131 121 The Horowitz IG report is going to drop Wed Nov 27 at 5pm. The deepest news hole they could find.

That should make for some interesting Thanksgiving table banter.

No worries, it will be postponed another #TwoWeeks

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 09:59 AM (1XNk8)

132 What a delightful, playful and effective painting. There is plenty of background to provide a scene but all the colors are soft earth tones. It lets the viewer focus on the two women (girls) who stand out against the gentle background. The guy is needed for the theme but almost blends in with the wall. He is incidental. The girls' expressions and posture are the focus.

There is a sense of 'old story' about the image. This kind of thing has been a staple of young women for generations as they play up their adult figures and urges. It is something to be expected. But it is also gentle and, at least to me, retains a sense of innocence.

That is a lot to gather from a few seconds of study but those are the impressions I got.

Posted by: JTB at November 12, 2019 10:00 AM (bmdz3)

133 The Horowitz IG report is going to drop Wed Nov 27 at 5pm. The deepest news hole they could find.
***

At some point I have to ask - does Trump realize that if he doesn't take this seriously that after he leaves office in 2020 or 2024 that his family and allies are going to be arrested?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2019 10:00 AM (WdocV)

134
So this is what Huck Finn ended up as an adult. I think he is trying to convince the ladies that painting a fence is fun.
Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 09:34 AM (yRAFu)


It was Tom Sawyer who was tasked with whitewashing the fence. Huck Finn was a fisherman and raft rider.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:00 AM (pNxlR)

135 Since most Italians were portrayed with darker
features (skin, hair, and eye color) -- and my first three girlfriends
were beauties of Italian decent -- I was surprised to learn in my late
teens that in Northern Italy they were fair-skinned and blonde.


Am
reading "The Borgias" right now -- what a fascinating history with all
the city-states being conquered by various neighbors over and over again
throughout the centuries.


Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for
the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 09:46 AM (WqPYg)


My mother's side of the family has quite a few fair skinned tall blondes. Her whole side is fair skinned. My father's side is fair skinned and tall, and his sisters are lighter in hair color. There are some green eyes on his side too. Both sides are 100% italian.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (9Om/r)

136 > I'll say!
She can carry my water any time. Sultry...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (tJvHx)

137 Like everyone else in town, he's had the redhead.

She claims she doesn't remember it, blaming it on the wine. Typical Italian redheaded hairdresser.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (U6f/q)

138 BRUNETTE: [Swooning]
READHEAD: I cannot believe you are falling for that!
GUY: Don't you have some water to fetch?

Welcome to Tuesday Horde, which is most certainly not Monday. Dodge Murphy and Bob's your uncle. Even if you don't have an Uncle Bob.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (RD7QR)

139 At some point I have to ask - does Trump realize that if he doesn't take this seriously that after he leaves office in 2020 or 2024 that his family and allies are going to be arrested?

Does he seem like a guy who is worried or a guy that has something he can just lay on the table at any moment and flip the narrative?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (Boy/L)

140 At some point I have to ask - does Trump realize
that if he doesn't take this seriously that after he leaves office in
2020 or 2024 that his family and allies are going to be arrested?


Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2019 10:00 AM (WdocV)

Any post-presidency arrest of DJT or any family members would be a "OK, time for the face-colander" moment for me. Because if they go after DJT or his family that's pretty much the signal they're coming for the rest of us as well.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (DU2N9)

141 115 maybe Italy has changed, but when I was there in the 90s, the guys were so forward it was unbelievable. Of course that is not true of everyone, but if you have not been there, you would not understand. You would have groups of guys openly gawking at women in a cafe. It was was to the point of cat calling and was pretty comical really. Any American would have had some real culture shock.
Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM

Seems pretty typical from my experience with southern and eastern Europeans, at least. I was in Greece with a Croatian officer, and he would comically twist his head around to watch any attractive lady walk by. When I commented, he said he was a man, so of course he liked to look at pretty women. Besides, they obviously put effort into looking good, so it would be rude not to gawk.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (uaE7n)

142 Tom Sawyer whitewashed that fence...in 7/4!

Posted by: Geddy Leeeee! at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (1XNk8)

143 133
The Horowitz IG report is going to drop Wed Nov 27 at 5pm. The deepest news hole they could find.
***

At
some point I have to ask - does Trump realize that if he doesn't take
this seriously that after he leaves office in 2020 or 2024 that his
family and allies are going to be arrested?


Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2019 10:00 AM (WdocV)
Any member of the Horde should beware of the time when Trump leaves office. I fear none of us are safe.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (N39Ws)

144 No redhead bashing, we don't like that.

Posted by: dagny at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (nRWPy)

145 I fear whoever had Nov. 2019 in the Jimmy Carter death pool might be a winner. The media is going to take their fake love for him up to eleven.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (4thlk)

146 115. I don't know if it's different now- but traveling around Italy did get obnoxious for a female. The harassment wasn't constant, but when it was there it was inescapable. One guy even came at me when I was with two male friends, one of whom is a burly beast. Too much espresso I think.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (VPncT)

147 This is just like rape, right? Painting should be destroyed.

Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (MxEKc)

148 I was surprised to learn in my late

teens that in Northern Italy they were fair-skinned and blonde.

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Northern Italy was conquered by a Germanic tribe - the Lombards. And then had close connections with Germany and France through the middle ages on. Its not surprising that there is a fair amount of Northern European genetics in North Italy.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (WdocV)

149 Does he seem like a guy who is worried or a guy that
has something he can just lay on the table at any moment and flip the
narrative?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (Boy/L)

He doesn't seem worried. But I couldn't imagine anything more tragic than his going down with said "Trump Card" still in the hold because he held it 1-day too long.

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (DU2N9)

150 Welcome to Tuesday Horde, which is most certainly not Monday. Dodge
Murphy and Bob's your uncle. Even if you don't have an Uncle Bob.


Our "Uncle Bob" is Bob From NSA. *does Forrest Gump wave*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (HaL55)

151 115 in Italy it's polite to at least ogle a woman - don't want to insult her by ignoring her charms

Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (2qWzw)

152 147 This is just like rape, right? Painting should be destroyed.
Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (MxEKc)

Well, it is Rapey Tuesday.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (NWiLs)

153 A throuple is born

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 10:05 AM (wiXsO)

154
151 115 in Italy it's polite to at least ogle a woman - don't want to insult her by ignoring her charms
Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:03 AM (2qWzw)


They're always after her lucky charms!

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:05 AM (pNxlR)

155 Any post-presidency arrest of DJT or any family members would be a "OK, time for the face-colander" moment for me.

***

How many face colander moments have we had since 2001?...and yet here we are...


Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2019 10:05 AM (WdocV)

156 Northern Italy was conquered by a Germanic tribe - the Lombards.

The northern U.S. was conquered by the Lombardis. Weird, right?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 10:05 AM (Boy/L)

157 Trump's enemies would do well to examine the circumstances that led to Julius Caesar seizing power and the end of the Roman Republic.


But of course they're brutally ignorant of history, just as they are of every other subject.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (tJvHx)

158 I won't have to worry about getting harassed in Italy now - past my sale date!

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (VPncT)

159 My mother's side of the family has quite a few fair skinned tall blondes. Her whole side is fair skinned. My father's side is fair skinned and tall, and his sisters are lighter in hair color. There are some green eyes on his side too. Both sides are 100% italian.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:01 AM (9Om/r)

As I'm sure you know, the Normans took over Sicily and most of southern Italy for a few centuries. I saw a good historical piece on the Normans and all of their conquests, and they made the point that the reason "Normans" aren't around (specifically) in any of the places they conquered (they're still in Normandy, of course) is that they believed in blending in with local populations and staying put. So, Normans became French, Normans became English, Normans became Sicilians.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (Kpl3J)

160 Interesting take. I thought she was looking at her friend with more of a, "Really? I had no idea you could suck an apple through a garden hose!" sort of look.
Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019


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You're right!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (Ejm1K)

161 Well, it's not like he donned a parachute and flung himself at a zebra.

Posted by: Eric Ciaramella at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (iCJR6)

162 Both of my parents were of southern Italian extraction - Apuglia and Calabria, and I like many of the men in my family have traces of red in my beard.

Southern Italy was invaded by many dusky peoples over the centuries, but not the Scots/Irish! Don't know where the red comes from.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (1XNk8)

163 At some point I have to ask - does Trump realize that if he doesn't take this seriously that after he leaves office in 2020 or 2024 that his family and allies are going to be arrested?

If you're worried about the election, when do Democrats spring their traditional October Surprises? He's got plenty of time for that.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:07 AM (Ibwur)

164 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure


********

Confessions of a Neurosurgeon - a limerick

I hope that I might be excused
If it seems that I'm over-enthused
On our surgical expedition
We found a brain in mint condition
In the original box, never used

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:07 AM (m45I2)

165 Trump's enemies would do well to examine the circumstances that led to
Julius Caesar seizing power and the end of the Roman Republic.
___

Was that like before or after the Constitution?

Posted by: Ezra Klein at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (WdocV)

166 For a Tuesday art thread . . . this is easily as good as a Wednesday art thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (Ejm1K)

167 Southern Italy was invaded by many dusky peoples over the centuries, but not the Scots/Irish! Don't know where the red comes from.

Vikings.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (Ibwur)

168 > Don't know where the red comes from.
Same place the Scots and Irish got it.
Vikings/Normans.
The indigenous Celts didn't have red hair. That's all Viking genes.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (tJvHx)

169 Vikings.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (Ibwur)

Cool. I'm a dago viking!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (1XNk8)

170 eems pretty typical from my experience with southern
and eastern Europeans, at least. I was in Greece with a Croatian
officer, and he would comically twist his head around to watch any
attractive lady walk by. When I commented, he said he was a man, so of
course he liked to look at pretty women. Besides, they obviously put
effort into looking good, so it would be rude not to gawk.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (uaE7n)

In Italy the people dressed a lot better than we do. It is not completely fair to compare locals to travelers since locals have a lot more clothes to choose from and they don't come out of a suit case But it stood out, particularly in smaller towns how much better the locals dressed. And the women wore these things called dresses.

My guess is the culture has been homogenized a bit.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 10:09 AM (n13/j)

171 Southern Italy was invaded by many dusky peoples over the centuries, but
not the Scots/Irish! Don't know where the red comes from.


No one is safe from Stealth Gingernessism. It hides amongst the recessive DNA strands for centuries and becomes suddenly dominant when you least expect it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 10:09 AM (HaL55)

172 Vikings.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (Ibwur)

Cool. I'm a dago viking!
Posted by: Guy Smiley


The oars on the boat go wop wop wop.

J/k

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 10:09 AM (s2OJe)

173 Cool. I'm a dago viking!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (1XNk

So you like lutefisk on your noodles?

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 10:09 AM (DU2N9)

174 Unbeknownst to the would-be suitor, several months later the brunette will decide his flirtations weren't welcome after all and accuse him of rape.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:10 AM (NWiLs)

175 And the women wore these things called dresses.

___

PATRIARCHY! HETRONORMATIVITY!

These dirty sweatpants show how enlightened I am!

Posted by: American women at November 12, 2019 10:10 AM (WdocV)

176 And Eugene seems to have a 'type' he likes to paint.



https://tinyurl.com/yh2altnf

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:35 AM (cF8AT)

========

No doubt. And no trans either; he goes for the real deal.

Posted by: Thomas Crown at November 12, 2019 10:10 AM (NVYyb)

177 Southern Italy was invaded by many dusky peoples over the centuries



Southern Italy was cocked more than John Wayne's rifle.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 10:10 AM (s2OJe)

178 Northern Italy offers blondes? That suggests that you could cast a blonde as Juliet (she was from Verona), and be historically accurate.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:10 AM (Ejm1K)

179 So you like lutefisk on your noodles?
Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019 10:09 AM (DU2N9)

Never tried it, but now that I'm planning on getting in touch with my Viking-ness, I'll have to try it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:10 AM (1XNk8)

180 I won't have to worry about getting harassed in Italy now - past my sale date!
Posted by: kallisto

!

I don't believe that.

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 10:11 AM (arJlL)

181 173 Cool. I'm a dago viking!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (1XNk

So you like lutefisk on your noodles?
Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2019


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Legalize lutefisk!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:11 AM (Ejm1K)

182 Besides, they obviously put

effort into looking good, so it would be rude not to gawk.



Posted by: Grimaldi at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (uaE7n)
============

This is my belief too

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 10:11 AM (NVYyb)

183 Southern Italy was invaded by many dusky peoples over the centuries

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This tells me that southern Italy wasn't really worth it.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 10:11 AM (sX1BW)

184 164 Jimmy Carter Hospitalized For Brain Procedure


********

Confessions of a Neurosurgeon - a limerick

I hope that I might be excused
If it seems that I'm over-enthused
On our surgical expedition
We found a brain in mint condition
In the original box, never used
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:07 AM (m45I2)

Abby

what did you say

Abby Normal

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (JFO2v)

185 I just noticed that each person in the painting is wearing something bright red - socks, scarf, belt - symbolic maybe?

Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (2qWzw)

186 158 I won't have to worry about getting harassed in Italy now - past my sale date!
Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:06 AM (VPncT)

Just have to lower the price is all.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (NWiLs)

187 Lol...this is a headline from Seattle Times today...

Highway 99 toll money helps pay cost of collecting tolls

This is they type of in depth journalism we desperately need.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (wneaL)

188 Mangia la lutefisk!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (1XNk8)

189 The detail in that painting is amazing !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (arJlL)

190 115
maybe Italy has changed, but when I was there in the 90s, the guys were
so forward it was unbelievable. Of course that is not true of everyone,
but if you have not been there, you would not understand. You would have
groups of guys openly gawking at women in a cafe. It was was to the
point of cat calling and was pretty comical really. Any American would
have had some real culture shock.

nothing racist about it, just a cultural difference.


Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM (n13/j)


________


I got that sense the first time I watched the old 50's movie "Roman Holiday" with Audrey Hepburn and Gregory Peck.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (WqPYg)

191 > No doubt. And no trans either; he goes for the real deal.
He's one of those painters where you look at his work and say "Yeah, this guy was definitely heterosexual."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (tJvHx)

192 188 Mangia la lutefisk!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019


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Who you callin' mangy???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (Ejm1K)

193 188 Mangia la lutefisk!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:12 AM (1XNk

Disgusting in any language.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (NWiLs)

194 169 Vikings.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (Ibwur)

Cool. I'm a dago viking!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 10:08 AM (1XNk

I saw the Dago Vikings open for Steely Dan at the Tower in 1999.

Posted by: josephistan at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (7HtZB)

195 Is she going to cut her hair now?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (Ndje9)

196 You're not a real Viking unless you can eat surstomming.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (xfb67)

197 It's interesting how far the Vikings and their reputations went. The Byzantine emperor hired Vikings for his personal guard: the Varangian Guard.

Posted by: Kris at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

198 "Wanna taste my cannolli?"

Posted by: Fredo at November 12, 2019 10:14 AM (gYKMg)

199 Highway 99 toll money helps pay cost of collecting tolls

I don't even....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 10:14 AM (Boy/L)

200 George McGovern would be considered a right-wing nazi today.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:14 AM (WqPYg)

201 Lol...this is a headline from Seattle Times today...

Highway 99 toll money helps pay cost of collecting tolls

-------------

But are the toll collectors getting above minimum wage?

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 10:14 AM (sX1BW)

202 That's some mustache Paolo's sporting there.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 09:45 AM


Mustache rides are much safer when she has a handlebar to hold on to.

Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 10:14 AM (tOP4K)

203 He's one of those painters where you look at his work and say "Yeah, this guy was definitely heterosexual."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (tJvHx)

The guy could be asking for make up tips.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:14 AM (NWiLs)

204 Unfortunately Italians have adopted a more casual look, years after my family chided me for looking ratty. I was a pioneer!

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (VPncT)

205 That was a time when lumberjack beards and man buns were out of fashion, rejoice....

Posted by: Colin at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (VDpZy)

206 The interesting thing is that Huckleberry Finn was a truly American Picaresque novel, which is a Spanish literary form (as in Lazarillo de Tormes) and I have never found out if that was intentional or not
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This is true. If you would like an update on the genre, better dare I say than Twain, I recommend Charles Portis's Norwood, The Dog of the South, and Bergman's Little Big Man. I am pretty sure Twain was influenced heavily by Henry Fielding and Cervantes.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (yRAFu)

207 > As I'm sure you know, the Normans took over Sicily and most of southern Italy for a few centuries.

That's far more impressive than invading France, because, let's face it, who hasn't launched a successful invasion of France at some point?

Taking over Sicily, now, that's a bit more of a challenge.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (tJvHx)

208 George McGovern would be considered a right-wing nazi today.

Hell, even McGovern figured out how gonzo loony the left was in small business regulation.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (Boy/L)

209 maybe Italy has changed, but when I was there in the 90s, the guys were
so forward it was unbelievable. Of course that is not true of everyone,
but if you have not been there, you would not understand. You would have
groups of guys openly gawking at women in a cafe. It was was to the
point of cat calling and was pretty comical really. Any American would
have had some real culture shock.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 09:56 AM



I was there last year, and I didn't see any of that. We had a beautiful brunette chick around 19-20 years old in our group. I thought for sure she would get hit on. Nothing. It could be regional maybe. I think with everybody staring at their blasted phones nobody notices wtf goes on around them anymore.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (9Om/r)

210 Those paintings are lovely

Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (2qWzw)

211 I believe there are a slug of Blond/Blue in Dublin, because Vikings.
Not sure if they eat lutefisk and chips.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (88+cf)

212 "Guess your weight, ladies?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 10:16 AM (HaL55)

213 Not sure if this is a repeat or one like it--this artist used those two subjects in a number of paintings. All of which I like, so it's all good.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 12, 2019 10:16 AM (AM1GF)

214 Seems like we've seen this painting before.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 12, 2019 10:17 AM (jjaLl)

215 I see a double surprise in that painting.

Posted by: Matt Plauer at November 12, 2019 10:17 AM (EgshT)

216 No one is safe from Stealth Gingernessism. It hides
amongst the recessive DNA strands for centuries and becomes suddenly
dominant when you least expect it.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 10:09 AM (HaL55)


One of my old drummers is 100% italian, his wife is smoking hot with auburn hair. Their daughter has screaming red hair that looks like a solar flare.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:18 AM (9Om/r)

217 197 It's interesting how far the Vikings and their reputations went. The Byzantine emperor hired Vikings for his personal guard: the Varangian Guard.
Posted by: Kris at November 12, 2019 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

I would think that one of the reasons Vikings were used as guards is that the Nordic men probably were a foot taller than their Mediterranian counterparts.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 10:18 AM (U6f/q)

218 nice pear.

Posted by: ibid at November 12, 2019 10:19 AM (5jXgj)

219 I don't know if it's different now- but traveling
around Italy did get obnoxious for a female. The harassment wasn't
constant, but when it was there it was inescapable. One guy even came at
me when I was with two male friends, one of whom is a burly beast. Too
much espresso I think.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (VPncT)

it was pretty hard to miss. I would not want to be a woman traveling alone. But I met women who traveled all over Southern Europe alone and into Greece. Mad respect to them, they were real travelers. After meeting them while on a guided tour; I never went on a guided tour again.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 10:19 AM (n13/j)

220 Not sure if this is a repeat

Posted by: Brother Cavil Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD at November 12, 2019 10:16 AM (AM1GF)

I try hard to avoid repetition. As far as I know I have never repeated an artwork.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2019 10:19 AM (wEL+7)

221 186. I dunno, the financial aspect doesn't hold as much weight with Italians. Aesthetics are key. Also the men are used to being the ones who get paid.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:19 AM (VPncT)

222 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)

223 Seems like we've seen this painting before...

I think we saw his "Picking Mussels" (something like that) before.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (dBiBP)

224 And it's here. Greta Thunderpant's book, No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference.

https://amzn.to/2q9OF7J

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (+y/Ru)

225 Looks like Paolo is working on the thruple.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)

226 145
I fear whoever had Nov. 2019 in the Jimmy Carter death pool might be a
winner. The media is going to take their fake love for him up to eleven.



Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 10:02 AM (4thlk)

_______


They might have to put McCain's current funeral on hold for that. I wonder if Carter's funeral will be longer than McCain's ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (WqPYg)

227 >>I try hard to avoid repetition

So no more Fat Man Soiling an Ottoman then?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (ZLI7S)

228 De Blaas has the technical skill of Vermeer.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 10:21 AM (Q5ALd)

229 The broads have nice upper chesticle regions.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (Zz0t1)

230 ugh - have to get ready for a meeting with pinheaded bureaucrats. So.Much. Fun.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (VPncT)

231 SCROTUS takes up Newtown parents vs Remington.

We'll see how conservative the court is now. I think the eventual ruling will be a huge disappointment for gun owners.

Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (Pzzpr)

232 I just noticed that each person in the painting is wearing something bright red - socks, scarf, belt - symbolic maybe?


*********

John Has a Long Red Sash - a limerick

Let me think about this for a minute
Nope, there's no other way I can spin it
The red things that they wore
Is a code, and nothing more
It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (m45I2)

233 And it's here. Greta Thunderpant's book, No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference.

https://amzn.to/2q9OF7J
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (+y/Ru)


The only difference you made was for us to hate you and understand how farcical global warmening is.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (Zz0t1)

234
Sicily was invaded and conquered by Vikings and later, by the Normans, who were of Viking extraction themselves.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:23 AM (pNxlR)

235 The Byzantine emperor hired Vikings for his personal guard: the Varangian Guard.

Without a good offensive line, your emperor is going to get flattened on obvious passing downs.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:23 AM (Ibwur)

236 So rapey, just like "Baby It's Cold Outside".

Posted by: steve walsh at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (C60vS)

237 LOL! This Nikki Haley tweet could be Bill Kristol's worst aged take yet-

https://tinyurl.com/t4jwnzp

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (wiXsO)

238 Guido suggests a threesome.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (k4dH2)

239 As far as I know I have never repeated an artwork.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


*******

I wish I could say the same about me and puns.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (m45I2)

240 Hiring others for protection from the natives is an old standby for elites. Look at NYC, SF, Houston, and LA. What better protection from the native proles than to bring in a paranoid ringer with anger issues?

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 10:25 AM (yRAFu)

241 chesticle regions.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (Zz0t1)

I used one of his works called "The Wringer," and that is an awesome example of the female form...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2019 10:25 AM (wEL+7)

242 So rapey, just like "Baby It's Cold Outside".
Posted by: steve walsh at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (C60vS)


Have you heard the "new" version? Kelly Clarkson and John Legend duet where they manage to work in "your body, your choice" into the lyrics.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:26 AM (Zz0t1)

243 I was there last year, and I didn't see any of that.
We had a beautiful brunette chick around 19-20 years old in our group. I
thought for sure she would get hit on. Nothing. It could be regional
maybe. I think with everybody staring at their blasted phones nobody
notices wtf goes on around them anymore.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (9Om/r)

heh, I had a feeling things had changed. America has changed, the UK has changed. But the Italy gawking stood out back in the day. It was never everyone or most people. But we encountered it with young males in public settings. I was with a large group of young men and women. Some Italian guys were really over the top but not in our case threatening. Just silly really.

I think you are probably right about the cell phones. I am glad I saw Europe before 9/11 and smart phones. It seemed happier back then, just more fun. I have been back and it can still be a great experience. But I prefer most everything pre Millennium to be honest.

I remember chatting with you when you got back from Italy. I was a newb at posting.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 10:26 AM (n13/j)

244 DACA is an Act of Love, a Blessing of Liberty, and also a tax.

Posted by: John Roberts at November 12, 2019 10:26 AM (3DuXY)

245 Hello horde.

Looking for advice. Has anyone sued for slander per se? Accused of having an affair. It is a lie.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at November 12, 2019 10:27 AM (Lr5Wu)

246 That's far more impressive than invading France, because, let's face it, who hasn't launched a successful invasion of France at some point?

Taking over Sicily, now, that's a bit more of a challenge.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:15 AM (tJvHx)

And I think they took it over from the Moslem's, who had established a stronghold there, intending to move north from there.

So many good stories have happened over the years, and one (which was copied in the series "Vikings") actually did happen during the conquest of Sicily. A Norman/Viking army had a fortified city surrounded, but could not break through the walls. So suddenly one day they notified the City potentates that their beloved Leader had died, and his dying wish was to have religious rites read over him in a house of worship. If they would let them do that, then they promised to leave.

The City leaders were overjoyed, and quickly agreed. The funeral procession was let in with a few key men as pall bearers. In the middle of the service, the coffin lid flew open, the Leader jumped out, threw the axes he'd been laying on to all of his trusted warriors, they laid waste to the unsuspecting congregation, raced to the city gates, and threw them open. Then their entire army which had been standing by rushed in and sacked the city.

Damn, they knew how to fight. As the City Leaders died, I'm sure they were shouting "you guys are such assholes!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:27 AM (Kpl3J)

247 "Time and again citrus fruits were also associated with the subject of
wedding, marriage and love. This traces back to the golden apples of the
Hesperides which already in the classical myths were a wedding gift and
a beauty prize"

looks like maybe one apple or pomegranate, the others are oranges or lemons or ? Apparently there's a lot of citrus grown in Italy ... couldn't find much detail going back a couple centuries, but came across the above quote, added for your consideration.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 10:27 AM (Cus5s)

248 They might have to put McCain's current funeral on hold for that. I wonder if Carter's funeral will be longer than McCain's ...


Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for
the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:20 AM (WqPYg)


I don't give a shit as long as there is one.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:27 AM (9Om/r)

249
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
3h
I will be releasing the transcript of the first, and therefore more important, phone call with the Ukrainian President before week's end!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:27 AM (BqBId)

250 The Atlantic is running an article asking if America could avoid CW2.


You know what will precede CW2?

Mainstream or popular outlets starting to openly discuss the possibility.


We're getting closer.

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2019 10:28 AM (jKqaK)

251 I used one of his works called "The Wringer," and that is an awesome example of the female form...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2019 10:25 AM (wEL+7)


He seems to be a connoisseur of the female form, for sure. He represents it well in his work.

Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 10:28 AM (Zz0t1)

252 It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (m45I2)

Sometimes I feel that way about life.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:28 AM (NWiLs)

253 Is the pinching still a thing in Italy? Asking for The Paolo.

Posted by: The Paolo at November 12, 2019 10:28 AM (l3+k2)

254 > No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference.


She should have called it "A Commie's A Commie, No Matter How Small".
Let me guess: it's written in a style that no real sixteen year old has ever written in since the beginning of human life on earth, the kind of language that would cause any teacher worth his salt to start doing web searches to find out where she plagiarized it from.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:28 AM (tJvHx)

255 I dunno, the financial aspect doesn't hold as much weight with Italians. Aesthetics are key. Also the men are used to being the ones who get paid.
Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2019 10:19 AM (VPncT)

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute !"

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (arJlL)

256 The title could also be Basket of Apples.

Posted by: Weasel at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (RrqtM)

257 That's far more impressive than invading France, because, let's face it, who hasn't launched a successful invasion of France at some point?

Taking over Sicily, now, that's a bit more of a challenge.

--------------

For some.

Posted by: Zombie Patton at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (sX1BW)

258 It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.
Posted by: Muldoon

Sometimes I feel that way about life.
Posted by: Insomniac


********

Welcome to the club!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (m45I2)

259 235 The Byzantine emperor hired Vikings for his personal guard: the Varangian Guard.

Without a good offensive line, your emperor is going to get flattened on obvious passing downs.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:23 AM (Ibwur)

Following the Bills season too, I see.

Posted by: Kris at November 12, 2019 10:30 AM (OyyDO)

260 No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference
___

They helped me pay for this sweet new Ferrari! Who knew people would pay so much for skin and bone?

Posted by: Some Abortionist at November 12, 2019 10:30 AM (WdocV)

261 Taking over Sicily, now, that's a bit more of a challenge.

--------------

For some.
Posted by: Zombie Patton at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (sX1BW)

Show-off

Posted by: Zombie Montgomery at November 12, 2019 10:30 AM (N4xQB)

262 229 The broads have nice upper chesticle regions.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019


*
*

An advantage to wearing a corset. Even if a girl is average in that department, she looks spectacular.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:30 AM (Ejm1K)

263 I looked at some other de Blaas paintings on his Wiki page. Many of them show young women. They made me think of the song "I Enjoy Being A Girl" from the musical "Flower Drum Song".

Posted by: JTB at November 12, 2019 10:31 AM (bmdz3)

264 "I wonder if Carter's funeral will be longer than McCain's ..."



No doubt and it's going to be brutal. I want to puke just thinking about it.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2019 10:31 AM (4thlk)

265 > In the middle of the service, the coffin lid flew open, the Leader jumped out, threw the axes
Reminiscent of the story where the Frost Giants had stolen Thor's hammer and demanded that Freya marry one of them before they'd give it back.
They dressed Thor up in drag, with a veil, and claimed he was Freya. Then, at the wedding feast, they demanded that the hammer be brought forth. Thor grabbed it, tore off his wedding dress, and kicked Jotun ass.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (tJvHx)

266 Taking over Sicily, now, that's a bit more of a challenge.

--------------

For some.
Posted by: Zombie Patton at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (sX1BW)

Show-off
Posted by: Zombie Montgomery at November 12, 2019 10:30 AM (N4xQB)

-----------

You had your chance in the Netherlands.

You blew it.

Posted by: Zombie Patton at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (sX1BW)

267 Is this something that was painted just before tragedy struck? I don't like those at all.

Posted by: fritz von klikbaet at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (vqIkG)

268 An advantage to wearing a corset. Even if a girl is average in that department, she looks spectacular.

*********

So it's just a top-tical illusion?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (m45I2)

269 217
I would think that one of the reasons Vikings were used as guards is
that the Nordic men probably were a foot taller than their
Mediterranian counterparts.


behold the power of lutefisk

Posted by: Anachronda at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (sGtp+)

270 It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.
Posted by: Muldoon

Sometimes I feel that way about life.
Posted by: Insomniac

********

Welcome to the club!


Posted by: Muldoon


SURPRISE!

Posted by: River Otters at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (s2OJe)

271 Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
Director, defendingdemocracytogether.org. Host, conversationswithbillkristol.org. Inaugural visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College.
*******
hahaha what the flying fuck is visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (BqBId)

272 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
3h
I will be releasing the transcript of the first, and therefore more important, phone call with the Ukrainian President before week's end!


Be careful what you wish for, Dems! (just kidding. Keep being you.)

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2019 10:33 AM (dBiBP)

273


HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES....


i prefers ANDROIDS.

Posted by: saf at November 12, 2019 10:33 AM (5IHGB)

274 So it's just a top-tical illusion?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (m45I2)

Busted for an awful pun!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2019 10:33 AM (wEL+7)

275 John Has a Long Red Sash - a limerick



Let me think about this for a minute

Nope, there's no other way I can spin it

The red things that they wore

Is a code, and nothing more

It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:22 AM (m45I2)

______


Props.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:33 AM (WqPYg)

276 I'd like to see someone smuggle a bunny rabbit in and set it loose at Carter's funeral.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 10:34 AM (m45I2)

277 270 It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.
Posted by: Muldoon

Sometimes I feel that way about life.
Posted by: Insomniac

********

Welcome to the club!


Posted by: Muldoon


SURPRISE!
Posted by: River Otters at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (s2OJe)

I really hate surprises.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

278
237 LOL! This Nikki Haley tweet could be Bill Kristol's worst aged take yet-

https://tinyurl.com/t4jwnzp
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (wiXsO)


Why on earth would anyone waste their time by perusing the collected works of Kap'n Billy Kristol?

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:34 AM (pNxlR)

279 > hahaha what the flying fuck is visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College

That's what they call the communist hobo living in the parking lot.

To be fair, the van does have a sweet airbrushed mural on the side, and shag carpet and/or naugahyde on every surface within.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:35 AM (tJvHx)

280 278
237 LOL! This Nikki Haley tweet could be Bill Kristol's worst aged take yet-

https://tinyurl.com/t4jwnzp
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 10:24 AM (wiXsO)

Why on earth would anyone waste their time by perusing the collected works of Kap'n Billy Kristol?
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:34 AM (pNxlR)

========

How else is Twitchy gonna keep the lights on?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:35 AM (q80AH)

281 I think you are probably right about the cell
phones. I am glad I saw Europe before 9/11 and smart phones. It seemed
happier back then, just more fun. I have been back and it can still be a
great experience. But I prefer most everything pre Millennium to be
honest.

I remember chatting with you when you got back from Italy. I was a newb at posting.


Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 10:26 AM (n13/j)

Well, my brother was there about 12 years before this last trip. He said flat out that things changed a lot since he was there the first time. Somebody had told me there was a lot of graffiti when they went, but I didn't see that. Rome looked pretty clean, from the parts I saw. They even had cleaned the entire outside of the coliseum. It looked great. I guess like here, it depends on who is running the joint.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:35 AM (9Om/r)

282 It's a secret club...and I'm not in it.

Posted by: Muldoon



Sometimes I feel that way about life.

Posted by: Insomniac


George Carlin had similar sentiments. And he was right.

https://youtu.be/kXhZyAOuyhE

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (AM1GF)

283 So rapey, just like "Baby It's Cold Outside".
Posted by: steve walsh


Baby It's Cold Outside
Epstein didn't kill himself

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (s2OJe)

284
hahaha what the flying fuck is visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (BqBId)


He lives in a van down by the river.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (pNxlR)

285 279 > hahaha what the flying fuck is visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College

That's what they call the communist hobo living in the parking lot.

To be fair, the van does have a sweet airbrushed mural on the side, and shag carpet and/or naugahyde on every surface within.
--------------
My dad, a 1938 Davidson graduate, would not like this news. Its good that he has passed.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (yRAFu)

286 Jimmy Carter is unimportant. When the hell is RBG going to cash in her chips?

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (1Q2gZ)

287 The muslims were using Sicily as staging area for attacks on Rome, including the Vatican.
Pope Leo captured a lot of them, and set them to work building a wall around the Vatican.
It is called the Leontine Wall, it is there today.

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (w7KSn)

288 286 Jimmy Carter is unimportant. When the hell is RBG going to cash in her chips?
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (1Q2gZ)

=========

After leg day. She never skips leg day.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:37 AM (q80AH)

289 So it's just a top-tical illusion?

Posted by: Muldoon


Busted for an awful pun!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


You're gonna need more cells for around here.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (s2OJe)

290 287 The muslims were using Sicily as staging area for attacks on Rome, including the Vatican.
Pope Leo captured a lot of them, and set them to work building a wall around the Vatican.
It is called the Leontine Wall, it is there today.
Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (w7KSn)

=========

Why? Walls don't work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (q80AH)

291 Jim Geraghty has a piece at NRO arguing that while what Don Cherry said was offensive, they should have just let him apologize rather than firing him.

This weak-ass accepting the left's premises bullshit is a perfect example of why pre-Trump conservatives never actually conserved anything.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (N4xQB)

292 hahaha what the flying fuck is visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (BqBId)

------

It was created from whole cloth for Bill last year after Weekly Standard went tits up. Much as the Asness Chair in Applied Liberty was ginned up especially for Jonah Goldberg. Straight up sinecures.

Morbidly obese nepots and kept men gotta pay for their cuck cruises somehow.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (3DuXY)

293 266 Taking over Sicily, now, that's a bit more of a challenge.

--------------

For some.
Posted by: Zombie Patton at November 12, 2019 10:29 AM (sX1BW)

Show-off
Posted by: Zombie Montgomery at November 12, 2019 10:30 AM (N4xQB)

-----------

You had your chance in the Netherlands.

You blew it.
Posted by: Zombie Patton

It's just a couple of bridges, he said. We can hold them, no problem, he said. Piker!

Posted by: Zombie Eisenhower at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (z1DPh)

294 The muslims were using Sicily as staging area for attacks on Rome, including the Vatican.
Pope Leo captured a lot of them, and set them to work building a wall around the Vatican.
It is called the Leontine Wall, it is there today.
Posted by: atilla the thrilla


But the pope said walls don't work.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (s2OJe)

295 http://bit.ly/2NEkVc4
*******
Don Cherry still won't back down ! GOOD

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:39 AM (BqBId)

296 The muslims were using Sicily as staging area for attacks on Rome, including the Vatican.
Pope Leo captured a lot of them, and set them to work building a wall around the Vatican.
It is called the Leontine Wall, it is there today.
Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (w7KSn)

Of course the Pope has not responded to the inquiries why a wall around the Vatican is good but a wall on the border of Mexico is bad.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 10:39 AM (Q5ALd)

297 You had your chance in the Netherlands.

You blew it.
Posted by: Zombie Patton

It's just a couple of bridges, he said. We can hold them, no problem, he said. Piker!
Posted by: Zombie Eisenhower at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (z1DPh)

---

I maintain that Market-Garden was 90% successful.

Posted by: Zombie Montgomery at November 12, 2019 10:40 AM (N4xQB)

298 When the hell is RBG going to cash in her chips?

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 12, 2019 10:36 AM (1Q2g


Planned Parenthood is keeping her going through ritual sacrifice.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 10:40 AM (hLRSq)

299 OK, I think the previous work of de Blaas featured here was "On the Balcony", which indeed had these two subjects. Like I said, he featured them quite a bit.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 12, 2019 10:40 AM (AM1GF)

300 How else is Twitchy gonna keep the lights on?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:35 AM (q80AH)
*****************
The best part about the link I posted was the video of the interview where Savannah Guthrie asks Haley about Trump's truthfulness. Haley was awesome!

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 10:41 AM (wiXsO)

301 245 Hello horde.

Looking for advice. Has anyone sued for slander per se? Accused of having an affair. It is a lie.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at November 12, 2019 10:27 AM (Lr5Wu)

Difficult - you can look up long definitions of FindLaw and sites like that. Your two biggest stumbling blocks will be
A) you need to have someone who heard the slander, NOT yourself, who will swear under oath that they heard it said, by the party you are suing. Also testimony from others who heard it subsequently, from those who had been told it by the defendant.
B) you need to demonstrate that you yourself were directly (and not just theoretically) harmed by the Slander - ie, you lost a job, were shunned by community members, or were harassed. A tort suit is an attempt to "repay" you for the loss you have suffered, and so you have to establish the monetary amount of the loss to the Court's satisfaction.

Slander is spoken defamation, Libel is written defamation. Slander is generally much harder to prove, since libel obviously leaves a written record to rely on. Slander doesn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:41 AM (Kpl3J)

302 hahaha what the flying fuck is visiting Vann Professor at Davidson College

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:32 AM (BqBId)

_______


Bill Kristol is the man in the Vann ... down by the river.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:42 AM (WqPYg)

303 297 You had your chance in the Netherlands.

You blew it.
Posted by: Zombie Patton

It's just a couple of bridges, he said. We can hold them, no problem, he said. Piker!
Posted by: Zombie Eisenhower at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (z1DPh)

---

I maintain that Market-Garden was 90% successful.
Posted by: Zombie Montgomery

Yeah, that's what Yamamoto said, too.

Posted by: Zombie Nimitz at November 12, 2019 10:42 AM (z1DPh)

304 Imagine if the Germans had put all their money on Leningrad and came with a riverine navy? Shit would have been much more likely to have worked.

Posted by: Puddin Head Parliment at November 12, 2019 10:42 AM (yRAFu)

305 I maintain that Market-Garden was 90% successful.
Posted by: Zombie Montgomery at November 12, 2019 10:40 AM (N4xQB)

Operation Barbarossa was 90% successful.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)

306 -
--

Jim Geraghty has a piece at NRO arguing that while what Don Cherry said
was offensive, they should have just let him apologize rather than
firing him.



This weak-ass accepting the left's premises bullshit is a perfect
example of why pre-Trump conservatives never actually conserved
anything.


Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM

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Thou shalt not inform ignorant ingrates of their ungrateful ignorance.


Posted by: The Ten Cuckmandments at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (pMGkg)

307 Somehow "safe haven in Mexico" isn't as reassuring as I'd hoped.

Posted by: Evo Morales at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (sWM8x)

308 265 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans

Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (2qWzw)

309 i will boycott commie carter's funeral. just like all the rest of those dead fucks. i don't care, as long as he's gone. fucker.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2019 10:44 AM (KP5rU)

310 297 You had your chance in the Netherlands.

You blew it.
Posted by: Zombie Patton

It's just a couple of bridges, he said. We can hold them, no problem, he said. Piker!
Posted by: Zombie Eisenhower at November 12, 2019 10:38 AM (z1DPh)

---

I maintain that Market-Garden was 90% successful.
Posted by: Zombie Montgomery

Yeah, that's what Yamamoto said, too.
Posted by: Zombie Nimitz at November 12, 2019 10:42 AM (z1DPh)

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Pikers. The lot of you.

Let me know when an emperor submits to your will.

Posted by: Zombie Macarthur at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (sX1BW)

311

The widow of U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings has resigned as Maryland's Democratic Party chair to run for her late husband's congressional seat.

Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (aKsyK)

312 http://bit.ly/33MW2kc
*******
Recession Fears Evaporate: Small Business Optimism Rises in October | Breitbart
*******
Deep State/DemoCRAZY Party/MFM hardest hit

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (BqBId)

313 308 265 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans
Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (2qWzw)

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Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis did, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (q80AH)

314 Of course the Pope has not responded to the
inquiries why a wall around the Vatican is good but a wall on the border
of Mexico is bad.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 10:39 AM (Q5ALd)

2 reasons

1). The Pope isn't Italian
2). Its his people trying to to jump the border.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (9Om/r)

315 Thanks Tom. I am most interest in the truth being out there versus getting damages paid. Would a cease and desist letter help in that regard? I am thinking that It would be worth the four hundred bucks or so.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (Lr5Wu)

316 Jonah goldberg is seriously the "Assness" chair of something or other?

So kek. Much lulz. Wow.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (RxIVb)

317 I went to Florence not long after the Uffizi Gallery was bombed. That incident alone was kind of a turning point in Italy as I recall. The blow back against the Mafia was strong and universal. Don't mess with their cultural heritage.

Posted by: Quint at November 12, 2019 10:46 AM (n13/j)

318 311

The widow of U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings has resigned as Maryland's Democratic Party chair to run for her late husband's congressional seat.

Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (aKsyK)

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Good. I don't know what Baltimore would do without a Cummings in Congress to look after the city's welfare.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:46 AM (q80AH)

319 311; exactly what maryland deserves.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2019 10:46 AM (KP5rU)

320 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans
Posted by: VM's phone


Whatta heel.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (s2OJe)

321
The widow of U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings has resigned as Maryland's Democratic Party chair to run for her late husband's congressional seat.

Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (aKsyK)
*******
HEY! if you can't keep it clean, keep it in the family

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (BqBId)

322 308 265 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans
Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019


*
*

Yes; gave himself away at the market when, instead of inspecting flowers or dresses, he inspected the swords. Personally I'd think Achilles should have had his Man Card revoked. But of course, he was their best warrior. Who was brave enough to walk up to him and say, "Your Man Card, please"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (Ejm1K)

323 The widow of U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings has resigned as Maryland's Democratic Party chair to run for her late husband's congressional seat.

Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM


What is it with Dems always running the widow for the empty seat?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (ejd/p)

324 318
311



The widow of U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings has resigned as Maryland's
Democratic Party chair to run for her late husband's congressional seat.



Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her
campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported.
Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (aKsyK)



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Good. I don't know what Baltimore would do without a Cummings in Congress to look after the city's welfare.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:46 AM (q80AH)
If there was a solid (R) candidate, Trump could up there and make the pitch for the black vote like he had before. "What have you got to lose?" Very valid question - especially for Baltimore.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:48 AM (N39Ws)

325 > Maya Rockeymoore Cummings,
The Rockey Moore Picture Show?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:48 AM (tJvHx)

326 323
The widow of U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings has resigned as Maryland's
Democratic Party chair to run for her late husband's congressional seat.



Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her
campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported.
Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM



What is it with Dems always running the widow for the empty seat?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (ejd/p)
Rightful heirs and all that.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:48 AM (N39Ws)

327 308 265 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans
Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (2qWzw)

Lucky for him they didn't inspect too closely.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (NWiLs)

328 315 Thanks Tom. I am most interest in the truth being out there versus getting damages paid. Would a cease and desist letter help in that regard? I am thinking that It would be worth the four hundred bucks or so.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (Lr5Wu)

Yes, if the person you suspect is still out there saying it, that's always a good first step. It puts them on notice that you know what they're up to; it's also something you can show to anyone else who's heard the lie, to show them that you're fighting back against it.

There's always some people who tell tales just because it's a game to them, and they think that they will never be called on it. They're the stupid ones - of course others are more malicious. Maybe you know which type you're dealing with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (Kpl3J)

329 324 If there was a solid (R) candidate, Trump could up there and make the pitch for the black vote like he had before. "What have you got to lose?" Very valid question - especially for Baltimore.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:48 AM (N39Ws)

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And Widow Cummings would still win with at least 65% of the vote.

Politics is as much cultural as anything else. People who've voted Democrat for 30 years aren't often going to start voting differently, especially when their cultural leaders aren't doing it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (q80AH)

330 What is it with Dems always running the widow for the empty seat?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (ejd/p)
Rightful heirs and all that.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:48 AM (N39Ws)

Returning to the mean. Monarchism is humanity's default system of governance.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (J+mig)

331 322 308 265 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans
Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019

*
*

Yes; gave himself away at the market when, instead of inspecting flowers or dresses, he inspected the swords. Personally I'd think Achilles should have had his Man Card revoked. But of course, he was their best warrior. Who was brave enough to walk up to him and say, "Your Man Card, please"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019


*
*

Now that I think about it, wasn't it Odysseus who saw through the disguise? He *said* it was because the apparent woman was looking at the swords. Maybe he noticed that the apparent woman didn't walk like a woman, either.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (Ejm1K)

332 "If there was a solid (R) candidate, Trump could up there and make the pitch for the black vote like he had before. "What have you got to lose?" Very valid question - especially for Baltimore."

We actually currently have two of them.

Republican

Black

Female


And I fully expect to hear that announcement that you speak of.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (cqNba)

333 330
Returning to the mean. Monarchism is humanity's default system of governance.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (J+mig)

======

Wouldn't that actually be despotism?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

334 308 265 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans
Posted by: VM's phone at November 12, 2019 10:43 AM (2qWzw)

Sorta. He wanted to go, but his mother forced him to hide cuz she knew he'd die. Odysseus found him by showing weapons to the group of girls he was hiding with. He was the only one to show interest and gave himself away. I don't think it's in the Iliad though. While in hiding, he got frisky with one of the girls and fathered a son. This son was later retrieved by Odysseus and helped in the last battle at Troy.

Posted by: Kris at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (OyyDO)

335 What is it with Dems always running the widow for the empty seat?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (ejd/p)

Which was why the day old Elijah died we said she was gonna be the next congresscritter for life from Baltimore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (Kpl3J)

336 Let me know when an emperor submits to your will.
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Speaking of which, has anyone seen Zod?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (NVYyb)

337 335 What is it with Dems always running the widow for the empty seat?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (ejd/p)

Which was why the day old Elijah died we said she was gonna be the next congresscritter for life from Baltimore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (Kpl3J)

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It's another blow against the patriarchy!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:51 AM (q80AH)

338 17 He'd have quicker luck if he wore some shoes....

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:31 AM (cF8AT)

He's a 19th century 'ron. The early Horde began with wearing no shoes and eventually progressed to wearing no pants.

He might have had even quicker luck if he wore no pants.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at November 12, 2019 10:51 AM (d6Ksn)

339 231, Nope, this is an interlocutory appeal, if the Supremes wanted to ignore it, they could have waited until after the trial in CT state courts and then denied cert. This is solely whether or not the federal PLCAA preempts any CT action. It might also involve the 1st Amendment as CT's law is rather vague on liability for commercial advertising that promotes violence.

I doubt the liberal wing wanted to take this up.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2019 10:52 AM (MItID)

340 He might have had even quicker luck if he wore no pants.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at November 12, 2019 10:51 AM (d6Ksn)

And stuffed a rolled pair of socks in his jockey shorts.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:52 AM (NWiLs)

341 338
17 He'd have quicker luck if he wore some shoes....



Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2019 09:31 AM (cF8AT)



He's a 19th century 'ron. The early Horde began with wearing no shoes and eventually progressed to wearing no pants.



He might have had even quicker luck if he wore no pants.

Posted by: DonnaV. at November 12, 2019 10:51 AM (d6Ksn)

Since he isn't of Irish decent, you could be right.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:52 AM (N39Ws)

342 in the Iliad, didn't Achilles hide disguised as a girl to avoid getting drafted into fighting the Trojans

-
If he had just used the rights pronouns . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 10:53 AM (+y/Ru)

343 Paolo discovers that "Epstein didn't kill himself" is a remarkably effective pick-up line.

The ladies are impressed.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at November 12, 2019 10:53 AM (d6Ksn)

344 Returning to the mean. Monarchism is humanity's default system of governance.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (J+mig)
======
Wouldn't that actually be despotism?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

even despotism would be better than pure anarchy (Libya, etc) which is what I think is the true default system.

I think Aristotle may have been the one who pointed out that Monarchy done well can be one of the best forms of Government. The problem is, of course, is that it's never done well for very long. Of course now Democracy is looking like it has a similar flaw.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:53 AM (Kpl3J)

345 "Former and current officials" leaked classified intel to the WSJ about Turkeys op in Syria alleging war crimes. But they tell you later in the article the drone footage was deemed inconclusive by the Pentagon and didn't require further review.

Bottom line another illegal leak by the deep state in advance of Erdogan's visit and one that dangerously exposes out intel capabilities.

People need to be shot.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2019 10:54 AM (MIsTo)

346 If you have an Apple device, don't update to iOS 13.2.2 since it seems to be crushing battery life. Wait for the next update.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 10:55 AM (RD7QR)

347
Jim Geraghty has a piece at NRO


Is he the one married to Meggers, the Phoenix Fatburg?

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:55 AM (pNxlR)

348 340 He might have had even quicker luck if he wore no pants.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at November 12, 2019 10:51 AM (d6Ksn)

And stuffed a rolled pair of socks in his jockey shorts.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:52 AM (NWiLs)

how a many a time I a tella u guido in da front

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2019 10:55 AM (JFO2v)

349 Just getting this in the name field.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's "Bring Back Our Epstein?" at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (a7+mS)

350 > I maintain that Market-Garden was 90% successful.

Pro tip: give your operations names like "Torch", "Overlord", or "Talon".
Giving it a gay-assed name like "Market Garden" is just setting yourself up for failure. It makes it sound like your troops are going to be planting cabbages or petunias.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (tJvHx)

351 I doubt the liberal wing wanted to take this up.
Posted by: whig at November 12, 2019 10:52 AM (MItID)

I agree with you - it would have been easy for SCOTUS to let this lie. But it looks like a State Court decided to overturn the clear wording of a Federal Law because they didn't like it. On the basis of Pre-emption alone, this case should be tossed out by SCOTUS.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (Kpl3J)

352 344 Returning to the mean. Monarchism is humanity's default system of governance.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (J+mig)

======

Wouldn't that actually be despotism?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)


even despotism would be better than pure anarchy (Libya, etc) which is what I think is the true default system.

I think Aristotle may have been the one who pointed out that Monarchy done well can be one of the best forms of Government. The problem is, of course, is that it's never done well for very long. Of course now Democracy is looking like it has a similar flaw.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:53 AM (Kpl3J)


_______



I've recently come to the conclusion that the default system of governance is akin to the Iron Law of Oligarchy.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (WqPYg)

353 The brunette reminds me of Disney's Snow White.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 12, 2019 10:57 AM (Wmf3G)

354

What is it with Dems always running the widow for the empty seat?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 10:47 AM (ejd/p)
Rightful heirs and all that.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:48 AM (N39Ws)


And the promise to employ all the same staff. Keeps all the same graft in place.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2019 10:57 AM (qkXUc)

355 Just getting this in the name field.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's "Bring Back Our Epstein?" at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (a7+mS)
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Totally digging this. Ha.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2019 10:57 AM (aXucN)

356 346
If you have an Apple device, don't update to iOS 13.2.2 since it seems to be crushing battery life. Wait for the next update.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 10:55 AM (RD7QR)
And I read today that with this IOS version, Facebook is able to activate the camera while you are using the FB app. Even without you activating the camera.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 10:57 AM (N39Ws)

357 https://washex.am/2X6eku9
*******
ANALYSIS: Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 10:57 AM (BqBId)

358 Jim Geraghty has a piece at NRO

Is he the one married to Meggers, the Phoenix Fatburg?
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:55 AM (pNxlR)

That would be Ben Domenech at The Federalist

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 12, 2019 10:58 AM (N4xQB)

359 Wow.. great artist!

Eugene liked to paint the babes, alright!

And more than a few flirtatious ones!

https://tinyurl.com/yf3k3sfy

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2019 10:58 AM (so+oy)

360 Pro tip: give your operations names like "Torch", "Overlord", or "Talon".
Giving
it a gay-assed name like "Market Garden" is just setting yourself up
for failure. It makes it sound like your troops are going to be planting
cabbages or petunias.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (tJvHx)


lol no shit. I always wondered about that lame ass name.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:58 AM (9Om/r)

361 Covfefe time. Bit of a late start today...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 10:58 AM (NWiLs)

362 Why in the world is it so difficult to find a pair of Gore-Tex dress shoes?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's at November 12, 2019 10:58 AM (a7+mS)

363 360 Pro tip: give your operations names like "Torch", "Overlord", or "Talon".
Giving
it a gay-assed name like "Market Garden" is just setting yourself up
for failure. It makes it sound like your troops are going to be planting
cabbages or petunias.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:56 AM (tJvHx)


lol no shit. I always wondered about that lame ass name.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:58 AM (9Om/r)

==========

Operate We're Gonna F you in the B.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:59 AM (q80AH)

364 > Rightful heirs and all that.

Remember when they tried to slot Caroline Kennedy into Drunk Uncle Ted's seat?
That got dropped pretty fast, as it stank too much even for Dem politics.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 10:59 AM (tJvHx)

365 Ha. My name field hiccuped. Maybe the quotation marks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Have you seen Michelle Obama's Bring Back Our Epstein? at November 12, 2019 10:59 AM (a7+mS)

366 Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

**********

So we get to witness the second Cummings?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (m45I2)

367 2). Its his people trying to to jump the border.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2019 10:45 AM (9Om/r)

Argentinians don't really consider themselves Hispanics, since they are mainly of European descent.

I once had a roommate from Buenos Aires. Her late father was a Polish Jew who had the immense good luck to be in BA on business in 1939 and stayed there. Her mother was of Italian descent. She said in her school the children of Nazis (and everyone knew who they were) sat alongside the children of Holocaust survivors and they'd fight on the playground.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (d6Ksn)

368 The mayor of NYC paints?

Posted by: Emily Litella at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (gYKMg)

369 Operation Curb Stomp
Operation Skull Breaker
Operation Asswhuppin

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (NWiLs)

370 -
--
Operate We're Gonna F you in the B.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:59 AM

--------------------

So, Operation Surprise Anal.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (pMGkg)

371 370 -
--
Operate We're Gonna F you in the B.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:59 AM

--------------------

So, Operation Surprise Anal.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (pMGkg)

==========

"Where do I sign up?!"
-Mayor Pete

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (q80AH)

372 366 Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, 48, is expected to formally announce her campaign at her Baltimore home Tuesday morning, news outlets reported. Congressman Elijah Cummings died last month at age 68.

**********

So we get to witness the second Cummings?
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM (m45I2)

What rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Baltimore to be crowned?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

373 358, Jimmy G. is a cosmopolitan and one of those that dislikes populism/anti-immigration/trade/nat. security tendencies of the Republican base but he is more low key about it. Think Rich Lowry rather than Williamson.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (MItID)

374
Nood ape (double entendre)

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 11:01 AM (pNxlR)

375 So, Operation Surprise Anal.

------------

I've had as much success with that operation as Market Garden had.

Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 11:02 AM (sX1BW)

376 -
--
So we get to witness the second Cummings?


Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM

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<polite applause>

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 11:02 AM (pMGkg)

377
Is he the one married to Meggers, the Phoenix Fatburg?
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 12, 2019 10:55 AM (pNxlR)

------

Nah. Ben Domenech.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 11:02 AM (AzW6q)

378 Of course the Pope has not responded to the
inquiries why a wall around the Vatican is good but a wall on the border of Mexico is bad.


Do I shit in the woods?!

Posted by: Pope Frank at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (cfSLd)

379 333 330
Returning to the mean. Monarchism is humanity's default system of governance.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 10:49 AM (J+mig)

======

Wouldn't that actually be despotism?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 10:50 AM (q80AH)

No, not really.

A monarchy would be the best form of governance for a good portion of the world's countries at this stage of development. Representative republics are about the hardest thing to institute and keep going (as we're seeing now), so it's far to complex for most countries.

I keep insisting that the world's billionaire class should compete to control the planet's shitholes via monarchy. Take over any third-world nation with a small mercenary force, lop off a few heads to show who's in charge and get to governing.

Everyone loves a royal title, with billionaires right at the top of the list. Why not use all that excess money to lord over the lives of an entire country?

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 11:03 AM (U6f/q)

380 345 "Former and current officials" leaked classified intel to the WSJ about Turkeys op in Syria alleging war crimes. But they tell you later in the article the drone footage was deemed inconclusive by the Pentagon and didn't require further review."

Amazing - some of those deeply committed to the graft, I suppose, are *still* trying to flog the Syrian horse, even after the MSM have given up on it. So what do they do? They commit a crime, leaking classified material, and they STILL have a big nothingburger to show for it.

as an aside, will their be killings and shootings and mayhem in that part of the world? Well of course, it's been going on for 1400 years there, it'll go on for another 1400. But it's not our circus, and not our monkeys.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (Kpl3J)

381
♫ ♪
Ten years ago
On a cold, dark night
There was someone killed
'Neath the town hall light

Just a few at the scene
But they all did agree
That Jeffrey Epstein
Didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (m45I2)

382 > Operation Curb Stomp

> Operation Skull Breaker

> Operation Asswhuppin
That's the ticket. Those go on the "do" list. Some from the "don't" list:
Operation Flounce
Operation Tea Party
Operation Cuddle


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (tJvHx)

383 Noodus simianus hospes

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (Ejm1K)

384 I think Aristotle may have been the one who pointed out that Monarchy done well can be one of the best forms of Government. The problem is, of course, is that it's never done well for very long. Of course now Democracy is looking like it has a similar flaw.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 10:53 AM (Kpl3J)

Monarchy is only ever as good as your monarch, the royal family's parenting skills, and their ability to keep unworthy heirs away from the big chair.

Basically, it's a total crapshoot.

Democracy also has no inherent virtue. It's only as good as the people who vote. An inattentive, immoral population will vote for all manner of monstrosity as long as that goverrnment gives them a cut of the loot.

A representative Republic has some inherent virtue, in restraining the excesses of power via process, and forcing deliberation and compromiss, but if it's laws are perverted, it falls into dysfunction.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 12, 2019 11:04 AM (J+mig)

385 So, Operation Surprise Anal.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2019 11:00 AM


Operation Sea Otter.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 11:05 AM (ejd/p)