"Periods of Suboptimal Performance" is the New Subeffective Level

Another thing @benk84 had in the news dump (but sometimes BenK has everything in the news dump), but also worth highlighting.

You will not be surprised to hear that Healthcare.gov will not be fixed by December 1.

You will also not be surprised to hear that the Administration is, get this, spinning failure as success.

CMS spokeswoman Julie Bataille said errors that persist past this weekend would be "intermittent" and, in line with a promise made by the White House, would not affect the vast majority of the site's users.

But Bataille acknowledged that some people would still experience "periods of suboptimal performance" by the system due to either heavy traffic or technical issues that are still being addressed.

"The system will not work perfectly on Dec. 1, but it will work much better than it did in October," Bataille said.

The comments came after the White House said the repair effort is "on track" to meet the Saturday deadline thanks to steady technical improvements.

Spokesman Josh Earnest said the site remains a "work in progress" but touted metrics showing that its error rate and page load times are now far below where they started.

The Administration's spin here is exactly the same as its spin on the economy -- hey, it's awful, but we've made tiny little Green Shoots improvements! It's "poised" to be fixed!

Obama has succeeded, mostly, in changing the bar for success, for his incompetent presidency only, from "actual success" to "tryin' real hard."

And Obama's is tryin' real hard-- to hide the system's inadequacy from the public. He's now putting out the word that people shouldn't come to the system all in a rush (which would overwhelm what little capacity it has) but should come slowly, over a period of days or weeks.

And he's putting out that word quietly, just to his allies, so that they can get the message out to potential users, so that his Administration itself doesn't have to make a public statement that the system will break down if it has more than 17 users logging in at a time (or whatever).

In other words, he's, get this, not being honest and candid with the public about his Administration's performance.

The Obama administration is quietly asking health care advocacy groups not to send a flood of consumers to HealthCare.gov next week, pushing instead for a more phased approach that won't overwhelm the website that the administration has pledged would be fully functional by Dec. 1.

The message is being communicated in private meetings, including one held Monday, a senior administration official told TPM. Groups like Enroll America and Planned Parenthood, which are among the leading organizations that are helping people sign up for coverage under Obamacare, are some of those to be targeted.

"We want to make sure that those who are reaching consumers at scale know that this isn't like you flip the switch and everyone can come back on the first day," the official said.

The plan would serve two purposes. First, it would lighten the load on HealthCare.gov next week, the first after the administration's self-imposed Dec. 1 deadline to get it fully functioning. Limiting the number of people who are coming to the site should help prevent any embarrassing outages. And second, preventing outages would ensure that people who are returning to the site after being frustrated by its early problems will have a better experience.

The plan serves a third purpose: Sparing the Administration from having to tell the American people the truth, and hiding yet another failure from public view.

I guess the leftist propaganda outfit Talking Points Memo forgot to mention that one.


Posted by: Ace at 01:06 PM



Comments

1
REPEAL

IMPEACH

Posted by: Parker at November 26, 2013 01:09 PM (YkW3i)

2 I thought I would stop having periods of suboptimal performance when I hit menopause. Turns out I was wrong.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at November 26, 2013 01:09 PM (8ZskC)

3 When Obama was lying, was he doing it without a trace a negro dialect?

Because that makes all the difference.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Channeling The Searchlight Strangler at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (F3G1y)

4 Well, the sooner the website gets fixed, the sooner people can find out just how much they will be paying for so little coverage. Just in time for Christmas.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (MuvlC)

5 With Obama - Zero Hour has a whole new meaning

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (nTgAI)

6 Didn't we have "Summer of Recovery?" Will this be the "Winter of Suboptimal Performance"

Posted by: Baldy at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (2bql3)

7 Sounds like the name of a fetish site. But that makes me think it would have a better interface than the liberal porn page it is now.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 26, 2013 01:13 PM (2NG6u)

8 Failure being success implies the Zero administration the most successful administration since Caligula.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:13 PM (xWW96)

9 Spinning poverty as wealth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 01:13 PM (BrrWI)

10 And Obama's is tryin' real hard-- to hide the system's inadequacy from
the public. He's now putting out the word that people shouldn't come to
the system all in a rush (which would overwhelm what little capacity it
has) but should come slowly, over a period of days or weeks.



The Administration will be installing a number ticket dispenser next to the Washington Monument. You will not be permitted to apply online without a number.

Posted by: The Obama Regime at November 26, 2013 01:13 PM (8ZskC)

11 An important message from the President: Preach to your family on thanksgiving about the wonders of ObamaCare but don't actually try to log on to our website.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (XUKZU)

12 Not enough that the administration is incompetent. They keep lying.

I wouldn't trust any of these assholes to park my car.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (PMGbu)

13 Given that this comes from an Administration that practices extended 'periods of suboptimal performance' as standard operating procedure....

...are we really surprised with the re-marketing and re-branding of failure?

Posted by: Athos at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (bYPqR)

14 How in the fuck is paying $640/mo compared to $125/mo considered fixed?

Posted by: cajun caret at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (UZQM8)

15 isn't it so cute when we're expected to have kind words for govt inability to function.

it's like they think they are toddlers , but toddlers in control of a 1/6 of the economy.

yeah.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (nqBYe)

16 Wasn't Suboptimal Performance one of the Transformers?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (BrrWI)

17 I saw Periods of Suboptimal Performance open for Ted Nugent at Angel Stadium in '77.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2013 01:15 PM (8ZskC)

18 So, has anybody specifically been fired for this disaster? No, of course not. Dems are still trying to pin the blame on Republicans, Tea Party and the right-wing conspiracy that killed JFK. Later Obama will demand voters fire Republican from the House and Senate for ruining his wonderful plans for health utopia.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 26, 2013 01:15 PM (Vv4Go)

19 Shovel ready.

Posted by: BignJames at November 26, 2013 01:15 PM (ZNQKl)

20 So no slam, bam, thank you ma'am?

Probably still no lube, either.

Posted by: Retread at November 26, 2013 01:15 PM (MVGKx)

21 You will not be surprised to hear that Healthcare.gov will not be fixed by December 1.


Oh my stars and garters, I am gob smacked with shock.


Bannion! My fainting couch!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 01:15 PM (VtjlW)

22
The thing I don't understand is why anyone would even think about visiting the healthcare dot gov website.

Your personal data is required before the site will give you information about the plans. It has already been proved that any data give to the site is available to hackers.

Notice they are not saying that the security holes have been patched, they are merely making it easier for you to input your personal data without a system crash.



Posted by: whyme at November 26, 2013 01:15 PM (l9mF2)

23
So we've got a government just like our public schools--seat time regardless of performance equals success! Or you'll hurt the Narcissist-in-Chief's self-esteem!
My late grandmother would describe someone with a room-temperature IQ as "not overly bright." Sounds a lot like "sub-optimal performance" of the intellect.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate's Wife at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (MS21K)

24 If You Like Your Plan You Can Keep It: The Rap (w/ Remy)
--

Selling hope's like selling soap, son, I'll tell you why
You can't make either one without a little bit of lye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kodcKUkd2Rg

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (ZPrif)

25 At some point, most people are going to realize the Zero has nothing in the bag save for lies, and theytherefore must cross over into the land of make believe to continue to support him. Many will, many more will not.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (xWW96)

26 Obama has succeeded, mostly, in changing the bar for success, for his
incompetent presidency only, from "actual success" to "tryin' real
hard."


That's excellent, Barry. Here's your trophy. Do you want some Sunny D?

Posted by: Soccer coaches for seven year olds at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (6TB1Z)

27 "Periods of Suboptimal Performance" since January 2009...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (vHRtU)

28 remember when axelrod said the govt is too vast to control or be competent?

that's why we make it Bigger. makes sense

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (nqBYe)

29 16 Wasn't Suboptimal Performance one of the Transformers?

Gobots.

Posted by: wooga at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (TaITa)

30 If failure = success then go ahead and start carving obamas's face in Rushmore now

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2013 01:17 PM (MBzEc)

31 Can't a man just enjoy his waffles.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at November 26, 2013 01:17 PM (Pr6hk)

32 Even a paramecium will learn to swim away from a hot needle.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:18 PM (xWW96)

33 It's a long way to the end of the pipe.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at November 26, 2013 01:18 PM (Pr6hk)

34 it's not even about Obama anymore, it's about govt inefficiency in general. At high costs , to everyone stuck with the bill .

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 01:18 PM (nqBYe)

35 That's excellent, Barry. Here's your trophy. Do you want some Sunny D?
Posted by: Soccer coaches for seven year olds at November 26, 2013 01:16 PM (6TB1Z)


*raises hand I would like some Sunny D*

It has Val U Rite in it, yes?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (VtjlW)

36 Can someone please explain to me why OFA is chirpily telling their cultists to sign up friends and family members for Obammycare over the Thanksgiving holiday, when even Obammy's own administration is reminding people that the damn site isn't going to be functioning until at least next week? That seems antithetical.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (4df7R)

37 Obamacare? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (Pr6hk)

38
So..in other words: http://youtu.be/v5lDKjA_7I0

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (1hM1d)

39 32. They said there'd be no biology on this site!!!

Well, the ont has it but we get yelled at

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (MBzEc)

40 Remy is a funny dude.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (ZPrif)

41 Sssssssssssssssssssssssss...

Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (8ZskC)

42 Sorry I nutted in you after 5 seconds of furious pumping. Chalk it up to a period of suboptimal performance.

Again.

By the way, I do not yet see you fetching a beer and sammich.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (SY2Kh)

43 *raises hand I would like some Sunny D*
It has Val U Rite in it, yes?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 01:19 PM (VtjlW)




The Val-U-Rite has some Sunny D in it, yes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (4df7R)

44 Didn't we have "Summer of Recovery?" Will this be the "Winter of Suboptimal Performance"
Posted by: Baldy at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (2bql3)

Many summers of recovery !

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (nTgAI)

45 Someone brilliant made a great point last week about not focusing TOO much on the website. Although it's certainly the most visible problem and we need to hammer on it, eventually the website WILL function adequately and at that exact moment, Journolist 5.0 will rush in and say that anyone who claimed the website wasn't ever going to work was a crazypants conspiracy theorist and they all told us so.

Meanwhile, all the real problems will remain eternally. Eye on the ball and all that...

Posted by: Mega at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (uvaJ1)

46 Periods of Suboptimal Performance?

Bob Dole has a solution for that problem.

Posted by: Bob Dole at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (nq+/u)

47 Failing upwards is the new norm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (787tI)

48 Zero has nothing in the bag save for lies

He's doing what he knows, which is not much. Lying is his main tool. Lying and division. His main two tools are lying, division, .....and a contemptuous disregard for those who don't pay him homage. His three tools include lying, division, a contemptuous disregard for those who don't pay him homage....and an almost fanatical devotion to his golf game. Among his tools are such elements as......

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (6TB1Z)

49 Affirmative Action has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (edeh4)

50 Why assume that the website will ever work?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (6h2wp)

51
IMPALE

REPEAT

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at November 26, 2013 01:21 PM (SCcgT)

52 Screw you, Cameron. It was just a period of suboptimal performance.

Posted by: The Titanic at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)

53 I saw Subeffective Level open for King Crimson, The Beacon Theater in NYC, 1982.

Bill Bruford kicked ass on drums as always.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (7ObY1)

54 My late grandmother would describe someone with a room-temperature IQ as "not overly bright."


Mine would have said, "Bless their heart".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (cUARf)

55 The broken website is only delaying the exposure to the LIVs of 404care premiums, deductibles and limited provider choices. I hope they fix the sucker soon.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (8ZskC)

56 Posted by: Sean Bannion, Channeling The Searchlight Strangler at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (F3G1y)


But we can be sure it was clean & articulate lying!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (cb/Vq)

57 The question should not be how well the government website that 'signs up' customers for insurance that will be issued by a third party actually works.

The question should be is this a reasonable activity for a government to be involved in at all?

Should the federal government be involved in 'signing up' customers to buy girl scout cookies?

Should the federal government run a website where customers would go to get on a list to buy an automobile?

Should the federal government run a website where citizens have to sign up to get permission to buy food, or to grow their own?

Posted by: Well ok then! at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (ZRftZ)

58 Have we already talked about this?

"The Greatness of ObamaCare"

http://tinyurl.com/obamacaregreatness

Get your barf bags ready.

Posted by: Mega at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (uvaJ1)

59 The Suboptimal Performance President

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (MMC8r)

60 Remy's Going Green with Cap and Trade! song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-htSSHxsE

Always liked that one.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (ZPrif)

61 Didn't we have "Summer of Recovery?" Will this be the "Winter of Suboptimal Performance"

Posted by: Baldy at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (2bql3)



Many summers of recovery !



We have the Francisco Franco of national economies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (8ZskC)

62 President Suboptimal

Posted by: Mega at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (uvaJ1)

63 You guys are mean. Leave President Participation Trophy alone.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (SY2Kh)

64 If they haven't fixed the security issues, hilarity will ensue.

Posted by: boned to the bone at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (Ph479)

65 O'Reilly said da Zero is just going through the motions now, not even believing his own bullshit. He's right about that.

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (xWW96)

66 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (GjPnA)

67 My late grandmother would describe someone with a room-temperature IQ as "not overly bright."





Mine would have said, "Bless their heart".

Posted by: rickb223


My very-much-alive Dad would say "Obama is an idiot and a jackass who's only president because he's black".

My Dad is not big on diplomacy.

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (6TB1Z)

68 Someone brilliant made a great point last week about not focusing TOO much on the website. Although it's certainly the most visible problem and we need to hammer on it, eventually the website WILL function adequately and at that exact moment, Journolist 5.0 will rush in and say that anyone who claimed the website wasn't ever going to work was a crazypants conspiracy theorist and they all told us so.


Obama and his lackeys wish the technical issues with Healthcare.gov were the only problems with Obammycare.


Millions of policies cancelled for not meeting the ACA’s minimum requirements, with tens of millions more cancellations in store when the employer mandate takes effect? Not the website’s fault.

Premiums and deductibles skyrocketing? Not the website’s fault.

Insurance coverage networks shrinking? Not the website’s fault.

Doctors leaving the field rather than be bankrupted by low reimbursements and stifling bureaucracy? Not the website’s fault.

Billions in taxpayer-funded bailouts (oh, sorry, I meant “risk corridors”) for insurance companies pre-baked into the law? Not the website’s fault.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (4df7R)

69 Suboptimal Performance = Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

As with everything this Marxist touches, the Healthcare.gov site is a SCOAMF.

Posted by: grognard at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (/29Nl)

70 They said there'd be no biology on this site!!!

Well, the ont has it but we get yelled at



And then there is the barrel.
At least, I think that stuff is biological.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (cUARf)

71 But Bataille acknowledged that some people would still experience "periods of suboptimal performance" by the system due to either heavy traffic or technical issues that are still being addressed.

They're trying the bully tactic of isolating the person who is negatively affected.

"Don't share your story, your experience is one of the minor glitches we already admitted would happen."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (sByIH)

72

Many summers of recovery !


There will be growth in the spring.

Posted by: Chauncey Gardener at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (MMC8r)

73 You know what we won't see reported this December? The sub optimal performance of retail sales. I predict many chirpy stories of ringing cash registers and rising consumer confidence. What does Ace call those? Something montage?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (RZ8pf)

74 Don't worry fans
It's just a period of suboptimal performance.

Posted by: Da Cubs at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (MBzEc)

75 Anyone want to take bets on when the next stage of suboptimal performance will hit? The part where the website has to start handling claims and making payments for services rendered?

Posted by: Retread at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (MVGKx)

76 Soon, this suboptimal performance will lead many of us to be life-deprived.

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (MMC8r)

77 So, has anybody specifically been fired for this disaster? No, of course not.

Not completely true. The guy who warned them that it was a disaster lost his job.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (SY2Kh)

78 Are these people on crack?!

Posted by: Rob Ford at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (Kkt/i)

79 78 Are these people on crack?!


Don't be silly, I only snort the powdered stuff.

Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (7ObY1)

80
The New Normal: Failure = Success!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (aDwsi)

81 Because of Obamacare I could only afford a 'SubOptimus Prime' transformer.

Posted by: RWC at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (fWAjv)

82 How in the fuck is paying $640/mo compared to $125/mo considered fixed?

I'm curious, how many people think people will voluntarily bankrupt themselves to have such limited 'insurance'? If they actually have a problem the out-of-pocket is going to hurt them just as badly as being uninsured.

To me, great masses of people are going to vote 'none of the above' and pocket the premium.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (1H61p)

83 Posted by: Sean Bannion, Channeling The Searchlight Strangler at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (F3G1y)


As Axelrod knows, the Bigger things are, the more room there is to hide the inadequacies, siphon off graft, and more efficiently transfer wealth from the middle class to the deserving cronies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (cb/Vq)

84 You guys are mean. Leave President Participation Trophy alone.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (SY2Kh)



Objection! The commenter cites facts not in evidence. "President Participation Trophy" implies that Obammy actually participates in the running of his administration, despite the Preezy's own frequent admissions to the contrary (e.g., "I learend about that when I read it in the paper, like the rest of you.")

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (4df7R)

85 Affirmative Action Healthcare Mmm...Mmmm...Mmmmmm!


Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 01:27 PM (wmU4G)

86
IMBIBE
REPEAT

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (edeh4)

87 Big Obama has lowered the monthly premium from $300 to $500 per month!

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (MMC8r)

88 Didn't we have "Summer of Recovery?" Will this be the "Winter of Suboptimal Performance"


Posted by: Baldy at November 26, 2013 01:12 PM (2bql3)

Yes, after the Fall of LIV expectations.

Posted by: Rob Ford at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (Kkt/i)

89
You know what we won't see reported this December? The sub optimal
performance of retail sales. I predict many chirpy stories of ringing
cash registers and rising consumer confidence. What does Ace call those?
Something montage?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (RZ8pf)


Prosperity Montage, I believe. And I believe retail sales are going to *crater* for most of the country, except the blue areas, where the very prosperous blue-blooded socialists will be able to spend ever increasing amounts of our money on shit for themselves.That *might* just make retail sales even out.

Posted by: grognard at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (/29Nl)

90 Soon, this suboptimal performance will lead many of us to be life-deprived.

Posted by: ---


Ah, the period of suboptimal metabolism.

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (6TB1Z)

91 I'm not wasting time on the internets today, Boss, this is just a period of suboptimal performance.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (ZKzrr)

92 Are these people on crack?!



Only if they are blind drunk.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (cUARf)

93 Soon, this suboptimal performance will lead many of us to be life-deprived.

Cellular sub-optimal performance.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (sByIH)

94 Note to self : Visit Healthcare.gov on Dec. 1

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (aDwsi)

95

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Made glorious summer by this son of Indonesia;

And all the clouds that low'r'd upon our lives

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Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (pj6Nr)

96 So, has anybody specifically been fired for this disaster? No, of course not.
Not completely true. The guy who warned them that it was a disaster lost his job.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 26, 2013 01:26 PM (SY2Kh)



So did that one navigator who told Sean Hannity that no one really liked the system very much.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)

97 Crap. sorry.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (pj6Nr)

98 Cellular sub-optimal performance.

Posted by: bonhomme


Apoptosis. Yeah, it means the same thing, I just like saying apoptosis.

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (6TB1Z)

99 The question should not be how well the government website that 'signs up' customers for insurance that will be issued by a third party actually works.The question should be is this a reasonable activity for a government to be involved in at all? Should the federal government be involved in 'signing up' customers to buy girl scout cookies?Should the federal government run a website where customers would go to get on a list to buy an automobile?Should the federal government run a website where citizens have to sign up to get permission to buy food, or to grow their own?
Posted by: Well ok then! at November 26, 2013 01:23 PM (ZRftZ)


--------------------------------------


Patience, citizen. Patience.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (FtgP2)

100 Well Bob can report back on the existance of biology in the barrel. I just hocked a loogie in there BTW....

Posted by: maddogg at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (xWW96)

101
So if I understand this correctly we're paying people to not sign people up for Obamacare.

Sounds like a job I can do from home.

Posted by: MJ at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (PRPp1)

102 Note to self : Visit Healthcare.gov on Dec. 1

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 26, 2013 01:29 PM (aDwsi)

I know! They are so colossally stupid that they are telegraphing weakness to, oh, I don't know, probably the biggest anarchist hacktivist group out there.What's the over/under on a foreign DDOS on Dec 1?

Posted by: grognard at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (/29Nl)

103 Remy's Obamacare song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtyf7UHXNTM

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

104 I'm new here. Is that a barrel-able offense?

Posted by: flounder at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (Kkt/i)

105 Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains

Now open as Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains and BARRELS

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (6TB1Z)

106 "The part where the website has to start handling claims and making payments for services rendered?"

They haven't even done the part that sends those sweet, sweet government subsidies to the insurance companies yet.

I think the claims are supposed to be handled directly by the companies, though.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:30 PM (v9cuy)

107 Don't worry guys, we don't suck, it's just a period of suboptimal performance.

Nah, we suck

Posted by: Cleveland Browns secondary at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (MBzEc)

108 Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains



Bob, let us know if that stuff in the barrel is biological.....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (cUARf)

109 53
I saw Subeffective Level open for King Crimson, The Beacon Theater in NYC, 1982.



Bill Bruford kicked ass on drums as always.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel

Did Crimson play "21st Century Schizoid Man"?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (6h2wp)

110 So, more irritating bit of Orwellian Newspeak:

"Kinetic military action" or "Suboptimal Performance?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (4df7R)

111 This sounds a lot like gas rationing from the seventies. “You guys, you come in on Wednesdays with an odd number in the day. You over there, you come in on Saturdays of a full moon.”

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (QF8uk)

112 Our maiden voyage was sub-optimal.

Posted by: Captain Edward Smith at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (MMC8r)

113 Bob's House - I'm not sure the barrel is large enough to hold that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 26, 2013 01:31 PM (aDwsi)

114 Before it opened they were touting how their tool set let them run with a minimal number of servers. 3, was it? The entire time afterward they complain the problem is heavy load. With the money spent on developing, throwing more servers at the problem would be cheap. It would practically be free, relative to the hundreds of millions spent on software. That this isn't the solution would indicate either that the design itself isn't scalable, which is a problem in and of itself, or that load isn't really the problem.

If they're saying many more people can get onto the website soon, they aren't saying much about the security concerns that various members of the community have expressed, which I suspect means that the opportunities for identity theft are, in fact, on the upswing.

Posted by: davem at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (wmzCM)

115 Has anyone addressed how the private medical (black) market might work?

Can I pay a doctor in cash without using insurance at all (which seems to be what actually happens anyway until the monstrous deductible is reached), without imperiling his practice?

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (cb/Vq)

116 Yeah, it means the same thing, I just like saying apoptosis.

Yay, PCD. Apoptosis is definitely fun to say.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (sByIH)

117 Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains


PRO TIP: Stay well back from the hole.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (8ZskC)

118 Well Bob can report back on the existance of biology in the barrel. I just hocked a loogie in there BTW....

Posted by: maddogg
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Yeah, and The Morning Dump was in there too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (aDwsi)

119 Can I pay a doctor in cash without using insurance at all (which seems to be what actually happens anyway until the monstrous deductible is reached), without imperiling his practice?
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (cb/Vq)



You should be able to as of now. Who knows what tomorrow may bring?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (4df7R)

120 95. Come to daddy big boy

Posted by: The Barrel at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (MBzEc)

121 The play was....suboptimal.

Posted by: Mrs. Lincoln at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (MMC8r)

122
86
IMBIBE
REPEAT


HEALTH THREAT DETECTED AT COMMENT 86. SEND THE HEALTH INSPECTORS TO THAT ADDRESS.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 26, 2013 01:33 PM (1hM1d)

123 Megyn Kelly is looking exceptionally fetching today.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (FtgP2)

124 Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains

**



Don't worry Bob, You grow accustomed to the smell after awhile.


Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (wmU4G)

125 "Has anyone addressed how the private medical (black) market might work?"

Become very, very good friends with your veterinarian would be my advice.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (v9cuy)

126 With the money spent on developing, throwing more servers at the problem would be cheap.

Load-balancing and scaling is not a well-understood problem.

/sarc

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (sByIH)

127
So if I get this strategy right, it should crash right around Dec. 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.

Perfect.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (iGPSR)

128 Bob had a sub-optimal enbarreling.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (wmU4G)

129 Has anyone addressed how the private medical (black) market might work?



Same way the illegals & the labor force work...

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (cUARf)

130 125
"Has anyone addressed how the private medical (black) market might work?"



Become very, very good friends with your veterinarian would be my advice.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (v9cuy)

I'd ask my cats for an introduction, but they hate me more than Obama does.

Posted by: flounder at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (Kkt/i)

131 "Has anyone addressed how the private medical (black) market might work?"

You want a tonsillectomy with that shampoo?

Posted by: Your Barber at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (8ZskC)

132 Seriously. Vets are trained to treat any kind of animal, of which you are one. They also tend to have better test scores than MDs (many people who don't make it into vet school become human doctors instead).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (v9cuy)

133 Megyn Kelly is looking exceptionally fetching today.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:34 PM (FtgP2)
**

You had me at "Me.."

Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (wmU4G)

134 Did Crimson play "21st Century Schizoid Man"?

That was the encore. Suboptimal Performance joined them onstage for it.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (7ObY1)

135 How in the fuck is paying $640/mo compared to $125/mo considered fixed?

Posted by: cajun caret at November 26, 2013 01:14 PM (UZQM

Gotta spread the wealth around, bitches!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (fwARV)

136 It was just a period of suboptimal perfo......

I'm going to get my dumb ass in trouble soon, better stop

Posted by: Moochelle's big ass at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (MBzEc)

137 Bob's post was...suboptimal.

And on this blog there's a place for suboptimal...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (oFCZn)

138 Can I pay a doctor in cash without using insurance at all (which seems to be what actually happens anyway until the monstrous deductible is reached), without imperiling his practice?
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:32 PM (cb/Vq)


--------------------------------------------------------


It'll be okay as long as you say the magic word: Apoptosis.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (FtgP2)

139 Become very, very good friends with your veterinarian would be my advice.

She keeps trying to give me medicine for mange. I keep telling her that's my real hair.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (sByIH)

140
there is a 4th benefit to not having Enroll America and Planned Parenthood flood healthcare.gov in early Dec.
Obama is trying to manipulate who is in the Obamacare pool.
Planned Parenthood and Enroll America tend to cater to low income people who will not actually be paying into the market, but instead will be getting subsidies and raising prices on the people who are actually paying the bills.
The White House is hoping that puttingsigning up thefree loaders in phases will delay sticker shock for the 2.7million young, healthy, independent people who now have to get Obamacare because their old plans are canceled.

Posted by: Spaceracer423 at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (66jHJ)

141 Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (cUARf)

I would tend to agree except for the DEA control of prescription meds which are critical to many patients.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (cb/Vq)

142 This is the perfect companion to his new 'Talk Back Trembling Lips Foreign Policy' initiatives.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (l3vZN)

143 Before it opened they were touting how their tool set let them run with a minimal number of servers. 3, was it? …throwing more servers at the problem would be cheap… That this isn't the solution would indicate either that the design itself isn't scalable, which is a problem in and of itself, or that load isn't really the problem.

If they designed it assuming minimal servers, it may well not be scalable. I wouldn’t be surprised, if they only designed it for a handful of servers, if each server handles one piece of the pie, and the initial design assumes that each server doesn’t have to worry about changes elsewhere.

It is a lot easier to program if you don’t have to worry about multiple servers. It’s a lot harder, however, if you pretend you don’t have to worry about multiple servers when, in fact, you do.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (QF8uk)

144 She keeps trying to give me medicine for mange. I keep telling her that's my real hair.

Posted by: bonhomme
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Heh. Mine keeps trying to get me to take worming pills.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (aDwsi)

145 This crew is adept at altering the definitions of accountablility.

Remember jobs created or saved?

An economic statistic that has never before been uttered or used in any sort of analysis.

This is truly the make shit up as we go along Presidency.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (04cac)

146 They also tend to have better test scores than MDs (many people who don't make it into vet school become human doctors instead).

I've heard MDs and Dentists scores pendulum back and forth depending on which is harder to gain entry at the time.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (sByIH)

147 Suboptimal performance? Hell, you don't know the half of it, sister.

Posted by: Mooch at November 26, 2013 01:37 PM (Kkt/i)

148 Hydrogen would be suboptimal, but, heck, let's go with it.

Posted by: HindenbergCo at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (MMC8r)

149 Chances are, get this, Operation Barb Wire Condom is proceeding according to plan.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (KjlbF)

150 Can I pay a doctor in cash without using insurance at all (which seems to be what actually happens anyway until the monstrous deductible is reached), without imperiling his practice?

My experience is that Drs. have fee 'schedules' that they must abide by in a written contract they sign with insurance companies. They're 'allowed' to treat uninsured/self-insured patients, but you'll pay a higher fee.

For example; for some procedure like a 'well check' the Dr. might charge $75.00 to the insurance company but you'll be billed $125.00 cash.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (1H61p)

151 Obamacare Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (nTgAI)

152 "Consumers may not immediately be able to
complete the application. But they will be queued in order to ensure a
smoother process," said Julie Bataille

Let's think about this. The line waiting starts with the website, and according to Julie, this is a good thing.

Posted by: no good deed at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (HsJeN)

153 I also expect to see many doctors moving south of the border to open clinics.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (v9cuy)

154
That's the final rub Cajun. The website does nothing for the sticker shock.

But the acupuncturists are gonna eventually make a mint!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (iGPSR)

155 Seriously. Vets are trained to treat any kind of animal, of which you are one. They also tend to have better test scores than MDs (many people who don't make it into vet school become human doctors instead).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:35 PM (v9cuy)
______________________
Vets jobs are harder. An animal cannot tell you what is wrong.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (32Ze2)

156 Suboptimal Comment Formatting = BARREL

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (wtvvX)

157 I would tend to agree except for the DEA control of prescription meds which are critical to many patients.
Posted by: Hrothgar


Very true. If they have the manpower to cross-reference every prescription AND doctor's office to see if a patient had a visit/claim.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (cUARf)

158 Can I pay a doctor in cash without using insurance at all (which seems to be what actually happens anyway until the monstrous deductible is reached), without imperiling his practice? My experience is that Drs. have fee 'schedules' that they must abide by in a written contract they sign with insurance companies. They're 'allowed' to treat uninsured/self-insured patients, but you'll pay a higher fee. For example; for some procedure like a 'well check' the Dr. might charge $75.00 to the insurance company but you'll be billed $125.00 cash.
Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (1H61p)

I have actually been charged less for cash services

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (nTgAI)

159 Michelle complained about suboptimal performance until she started wearing the Reggie Love mask.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (v9cuy)

160 "Fact check: HealthCare.gov estimates may be misleading"

No freaking shit!

Posted by: RWC at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (fWAjv)

161 I sometimes suffer from "suboptimal performance", usually after consuming massive amounts of alcohol.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (wtvvX)

162 My experience is that Drs. have fee 'schedules' that they must abide by in a written contract they sign with insurance companies. They're 'allowed' to treat uninsured/self-insured patients, but you'll pay a higher fee.

For example; for some procedure like a 'well check' the Dr. might charge $75.00 to the insurance company but you'll be billed $125.00 cash.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (1H61p)


Really? I've heard/read people pay LESS if they're paying cash. Which makes sense since there is little to no processing for cash.

Posted by: Tami at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (bCEmE)

163 Omg did you guys see the thing about the turkey hunger games at twitchy? What is this administration 12 years old?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (RZ8pf)

164 She keeps trying to give me medicine for mange. I keep telling her that's my real hair.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2013 01:36 PM (sByIH)
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You forgot your Wasserman-Schultz sock

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (32Ze2)

165 "Vets jobs are harder. An animal cannot tell you what is wrong."

Exactly. Vets are highly-qualified doctors. It's amazing how cheap they are, considering.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (v9cuy)

166 >For example; for some procedure like a 'well check'
the Dr. might charge $75.00 to the insurance company but you'll be
billed $125.00 cash.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (1H61p)<

The doc I am related to charges 30% less for cash up front payments than for insurance transactions.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (KjlbF)

167 Sounds like a 3rd world experience to me...

Posted by: Purp at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (Xlbr8)

168 Let's think about this. The line waiting starts with the website, and according to Julie, this is a good thing.

I don't know about you, but I always knew I was having a good time when I took the kids to Disney World and we got to queue up for an hour or two for each ride.

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (6TB1Z)

169 "Hi, Mr. Boehner. I see we have you down for a 1 pm spaying appointment."

Posted by: D.C. Vet. at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (Kkt/i)

170 "Really? I've heard/read people pay LESS if they're paying cash"

There are cash-only concierge doctors and even hospitals springing up all over the place.

It remains to be seen whether His Mighty Zeroness allows them to stay in business.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (v9cuy)

171 Don't vorry, comrades!!

Iz Administration specializink in suboptimal performances!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (wtvvX)

172 Vets are highly-qualified doctors. It's amazing how cheap they are, considering.

Perhaps, but I'd be willing to bet they have lots cheaper malpractice insurance.

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (6TB1Z)

173 I have actually been charged less for cash services
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (nTgAI)


----------------------------------------------


I've been charged much less for paying cash. Most people don't realize the penalizing costs of dealing with insurance companies and especially the gubmint.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (FtgP2)

174 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:38 PM (v9cuy)
At least there will be plenty of good drugs available down there!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (cb/Vq)

175 Omg did you guys see the thing about the turkey hunger games at twitchy? What is this administration 12 years old?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (RZ8pf)


Most of this country operates on a 12-year-old level. Sad but true, and all by design.

Posted by: grognard at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (/29Nl)

176 I would expect medical tourism to pick up.
My cousin is a real estate broker in Panama and he says they are selling a lot of commercial property to US (and European) medicos.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (dfYL9)

177 ets jobs are harder. An animal cannot tell you what is wrong.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (32Ze2)
*
My alternate career choices would Plumber of Vet. Both of which get you for a minimum of 300.00 before they touch your pooch or pipes.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (wmU4G)

178 Pep, while you are queueing for the website, they will provide educational material to read. Sounds like a wonderland.

Posted by: no good deed at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (HsJeN)

179 Periods of Suboptimal Performance


How could you have missed our commercials?
And is Bob Dole ahead or behind in the comments?

Posted by: Cialis at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (DL2i+)

180 Really? I've heard/read people pay LESS if they're paying cash. Which makes sense since there is little to no processing for cash.


Barter.
Doc: That'll be $125.00 for the office visit. Or, $75.00 if you'll drop it off at the BMW dealership for me....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:43 PM (cUARf)

181 Posted by: D.C. Vet. at November 26, 2013 01:41 PM (Kkt/i)

Oh wait, someone has already performed that procedure on your some time ago!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (cb/Vq)

182 Obama never lied to us about Obamacare. He just suboptimally told us the truth.

Posted by: Marmo at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (QW+AD)

183 Paying cash for a medical or dental service is usually much less expensive than using insurance. The overhead cost involved is much less because you don't have to go through all the hooplah of working with the insurance company.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (4df7R)

184 I have actually been charged less for cash services

It's a dirty little secret. The doc gets the payment immediately, with no paperwork or forced 'discounts' to the insurance co.

Its the reason we should be opening up cash-for-service more, not blocking it out by conscripting the entire population into 'insurance' pre-paid maintenance plans.

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (MMC8r)

185 An animal cannot tell you what is wrong.

They also can't lie about taking their medication and not hitting the soft-serve machine at the Old Country Buffet six times last Thursday.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (ZKzrr)

186 Yeah, and I'm poised to bump bellies with Kate Upton, just as soon as I get a hold of this unicorn horn.

Posted by: joncelli at November 26, 2013 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

187 Periods of Suboptimal Performance


I've seen enough flappy weiners.

Posted by: Butters also at November 26, 2013 01:45 PM (DL2i+)

188 To all who replied they could pay less, if by cash:

I guess the policy on cash payments differs from area to area. Here in PA where the unions and the health care insurers are in bed together, that's how a 'sports physician' explained it to me.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:45 PM (1H61p)

189 Floating med centers 12mi offshore in international waters.


Posted by: Purp at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (Xlbr8)

190 "Periods of Suboptimal Performance"
2009 - 2014

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (CMlD4)

191 My alternate career choices would Plumber of Vet.



Animal enemas? Eeeeewwwwwwww.
Dachshund with the trots.....


Paging Mike Rowe. Please pick up the brown courtesy phone.....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (cUARf)

192 Vets jobs are harder. An animal cannot tell you what is wrong.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (32Ze2)



And human patients will rarely try to bite or claw you for rendering your services.

Not never. Certainly not never. But less frequently.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (4df7R)

193 At least there will be plenty of good drugs available down there!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:42 PM (cb/Vq)

And heads on pikes. Don't forget the heads on pikes. Go for the drugs. Stay (forever) for the heads on pikes.

Posted by: flounder at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (Kkt/i)

194 It would be a pity if a bunch of folks tried to log on to Healthcare.gov this weekend and Monday. Just sayin'

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (f9c2L)

195 Old and busted: Canadians traveling to the US in order to get heath care without long wait times.

New hotness: Americans traveling to Costa Rica to get health care that doesn't cost more than their house.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (SY2Kh)

196 My dentist gives a "professionai"l discount for cash!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (cb/Vq)

197 165----Vets are highly-qualified doctors. It's amazing how cheap they are, considering.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (v9cuy)
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Not so amazing.
Very low malpractice premiums.
Very few 3rd party payers, whether private or government insurance.
Relatively little govt regulation.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (dfYL9)

198 O said 'slow! Don't go so fast!
Don't you think that love should last?'

Posted by: Obamacare is all right now at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (9hVHZ)

199 Doc: That'll be $125.00 for the office visit. Or, $75.00 if you'll drop it off at the BMW dealership for me....

Posted by: rickb223

or $50 in Kugerrands

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (CMlD4)

200 My dentist gives a significant cash discount.

Posted by: Purp at November 26, 2013 01:47 PM (Xlbr8)

201 36
Can someone please explain to me why OFA is chirpily telling their
cultists to sign up friends and family members for Obammycare over the
Thanksgiving holiday, when even Obammy's own administration is reminding
people that the damn site isn't going to be functioning until at least
next week? That seems antithetical.
==========
Because the part where a voter registration form is automatically sent and that personal information is also shared with OFA and other leftists groups is working perfectly?

Just my guess.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 26, 2013 01:48 PM (VjL9S)

202 "And human patients will rarely try to bite or claw you for rendering your services. "

Happens all the time in the ER with whackjobs and gang bangers. Sometimes they have knives and guns, too.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at November 26, 2013 01:48 PM (v9cuy)

203
"How in the fuck is paying $640/mo compared to $125/mo considered fixed?"


Oh, we like that "fix" just fine, thank you.

Posted by: Big Insurance at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (LA7Cm)

204 it sounds heisenbergian -- if you tell allies (reporters) that if *they* try to use it it will overwhelm the system -- well, problem solved. No one can report how well it works since if they tried to look it will change the result

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (LWu6U)

205 *gives you Driver Garrison as reward for proper use of objection*


The Val-U-Rite has some Sunny D in it, yes.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (4df7R)



Story time!


Several years ago, I didn't go to see the 'rents for Thanksgiving for some reason (presumably work) and thus went to dinner at Boy BFF's house. This was when he still lived at home. The meal was awesome and afterwords we settled on the couch to watch movies and drink bay breezes. Needless to say, these went rapidly went from being bay breezes to adding just enough cranberry juice to make it look like we weren't drinking water glasses of vodka. His dad came in a couple hours later and started laughing about how drunk we were. We insisted we weren't. He said suuuuuure you're not. Another hour or so went by and I got up to go to the bathroom and basically did a nifty fulcrum up and faceplant right on the floor. Boy BFF starts laughing at me and I said you stand up you jackass. He fell off the couch. I ended up having to crawl to the bathroom.


That hangover was fun, let me tell you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (VtjlW)

206 Michelle complained about suboptimal performance until she started wearing the Reggie Love mask.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
........
From behind who could tell anyway?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (f9c2L)

207 What I just did in your mouth? Merely a period of suboptimal performance. Pay it no mind.

Posted by: joncelli, hammering the meme at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM (RD7QR)

208 Posted by: Purp at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (Xlbr

Sounds like a very viable custom cruise business model. Maybe hit Bermuda or Nassau as end point. Mexico as a medical tourist destination just doesn't seem ideal.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (cb/Vq)

209 The overseas medical market is going to expand exponentially over the next few years if Ocare isn't repealed (there, I said it. REPEALED). For many people who don't live up to the standards our administrative emperors declare, it'll be the only way to get treatment.

I know two doctors that are making plans to go to Costa Rica and Thailand to practice medicine.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:50 PM (FtgP2)

210 I have actually been charged less for cash services

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:39 PM (nTgAI)

I have as well.

Posted by: jem at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (fM4kr)

211 That hangover was fun, let me tell you.

I bet. Enjoying Thanksgiving dinner twice is always fun.

Posted by: no good deed at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (HsJeN)

212 Since the enrollment deadline for coverage on Jan 1 is Dec 15, wouldn't that two week period kind of like have people in a rush and knocking the system out with heavy traffic?

This insurance stuff sure is harder than they thought

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (aTXUx)

213 My dentist gives a discount for cash but it isn't much. Something like 2%. I'm sure others take off more.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (oFCZn)

214 Story time!


I love story time!

*drags Driver Garrison into closet for seven minutes in heaven*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (4df7R)

215 Is the Gay Pride today? Oh, it's just POTUS closing the streets.

Posted by: LA Traffic Dept. at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (/1ATA)

216 Jeez, that's the prefect response to relatives who follow Obama's advice about talking up Obamacare this Thanskgiving:
"Say, maybe you're right, [libtard cousin/uncle/aunt/sister]! What'd'ya say we log on to healthcare.gov RIGHT NOW?!"

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (9hVHZ)

217 73
You know what we won't see reported this December? The sub optimal performance of retail sales.
=========
Is it just me or do the ads all feel desperate?

Like a brave face hiding utter panic?

I think we're going to be treated to a "broke all records" weekend.

Followed by 5 weeks right through Christmas of "sales again didn't meet expectations."

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (VjL9S)

218 163 Omg did you guys see the thing about the turkey hunger games at twitchy? What is this administration 12 years old?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 26, 2013 01:40 PM (RZ8pf)

Where at? Can't find it on Twitchy.

Posted by: RWC at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (fWAjv)

219 That hangover was fun, let me tell you.


Head pound for every heart beat? Those are totes special.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (cUARf)

220 >*drags Driver Garrison into closet for seven minutes in heaven*<



What do ya'll do with the other 5 minutes?

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (KjlbF)

221 I went to a walk in clinic and paid cash for a bunch of stitches for a nasty gash on my knee. Way, way cheaper than a ER and I got served instantly...and sewn up by a retired Air Force doc who did high quality stitching work. Been a couple years now and the scar is barely visible.

Posted by: Purp at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (Xlbr8)

222 @218
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lhqysnx

Posted by: flounder at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (Kkt/i)

223 Posted by: Purp at November 26, 2013 01:46 PM (Xlbr
Next year , I expect that the big box stores will start the Black Friday sales on November first!f

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (cb/Vq)

224 Is it just me or do the ads all feel desperate?

Like a brave face hiding utter panic?

I think we're going to be treated to a "broke all records" weekend.

Followed by 5 weeks right through Christmas of "sales again didn't meet expectations."
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (VjL9S)



Mommy and I went shopping last Saturday and we were very worried about going since a whole bunch of places were starting huge sales last weekend as well.


Target wasn't even normal Saturday busy. Kohls was busyish but no more so than any other weekend. AC Moore was swamped. The mall parking lot was jammed and it was crowded inside but there were no lines at registers and people were not carrying many bags, if any at all. It was actually a bit frightening.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (VtjlW)

225 Found it.

Posted by: RWC at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (fWAjv)

226 Excuse me while I make a half-assed attempt to do something today!!



Posted by: Sub-Optimal-Man at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (wmU4G)

227
I bet. Enjoying Thanksgiving dinner twice is always fun.


Posted by: no good deed at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (HsJeN)


Reminds me of a joke I saw in a "disgusting joke book" once.
Two guys are stranded in the desert, starving, thirsty, irritable. They come across a coyote corpse, bloated and maggot filled. The first guy is desperate, and says they should both eat the corpse. The second guy declines, saying that there's no way it's a good idea to eat a raw, rotting corpse.So the first guy says, "More for me!" and starts scarfing up the meat.About an hour later, the first guy pukes and dies.The second guy smiles, looks down, and says "I knew if I waited long enough, I'd have a hot meal!"

Posted by: grognard at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (/29Nl)

228 Really? I've heard/read people pay LESS if they're paying cash. Which
makes sense since there is little to no processing for cash.


Limbaugh said you can get *steep* discounts paying cash. He had a caller who said he was quoted $16k for a procedure at a hospital. When he convinced them he was paying cash and no insurance was involved at all, they reduced it to $2800.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (B/VB5)

229 Spinning? You mean like spinning in their graves, such as the founding fathers, or perhaps those who will die because these asshats have raised the price of insurance so high nobody can afford it?


"Affordable Care Act" is painfully Orwellian.

Posted by: tcn at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (fwcEs)

230 Pretty much what I predicted: On 12/1 the White House will announce one or two things that are now working and declare success while most of the healthcare.gov is still broken; most of the Democrats and the Press will pretend to believe it.

Posted by: Socrateae at November 26, 2013 01:56 PM (6uy7v)

231 In china, i have heard that you go to doctors offices and they are like the food court at the mall with prices listed on a board outside. You pick the doctor, and procedure based on how much you are willing to pay. If you feel sick and want a check up you pay for that, and maybe you are told you need a chest x-ray, or some other procedure, so you go to the lobby and find a good price for that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 26, 2013 01:56 PM (LWu6U)

232 217
73

You know what we won't see reported this December? The sub optimal performance of retail sales.
=========
Is it just me or do the ads all feel desperate?

Like a brave face hiding utter panic?

I think we're going to be treated to a "broke all records" weekend.

Followed by 5 weeks right through Christmas of "sales again didn't meet expectations."


Posted by: RoyalOil


I was a retailer here for many years. The mall here was virtually devoid of customers a year or two before Obamacare started working its poison. Things will get a lot worse, now.

Posted by: backhoe at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (ULH4o)

233 I went to a walk in clinic and paid cash for a bunch of stitches for a nasty gash on my knee.

I have a walk in clinic five minutes from my house. Staffed by former Drs. who had been malpractice sued into submission. One of the Drs. my wife had for about a decade. Payment is now strictly voluntary.

My wife has lost every one of her Drs. to either Texas, or retirement -- on average every five years. I think OB/GYN is a tough field in this state.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (1H61p)

234 Iran Accuses Obama of Lying About Geneva Nuke Deal…



I get the feeling this farce is going to end poorly.

Weasel Zippers:

Gee even Hitler had the good taste to wait a few months before shitting all over the Munich Agreement?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (t3UFN)

235 My dentist gives a discount for cash but it isn't much. Something like 2%. I'm sure others take off more.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (oFCZn)


---------------------------------------------


I got 15% off. Find another dentist that'll give you a better deal. It's one of the perks of the free market as long as we still have it.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (FtgP2)

236 not affect the vast majority of the site's users

Define user. It has never even let me log on so I must not be a user.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (kxSZr)

237 In china, i have heard that you go to doctors offices and they are like
the food court at the mall with prices listed on a board outside. You
pick the doctor, and procedure based on how much you are willing to pay.


China has true free-market healthcare and we don't? Why am I not entirely surprised.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (B/VB5)

238 For a national health plan, I propose "AmeriCare." It requires amputation and cauterization of all suboptimal members of the body politic.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (9hVHZ)

239 Limbaugh said you can get *steep* discounts paying cash. He had a caller who said he was quoted $16k for a procedure at a hospital. When he convinced them he was paying cash and no insurance was involved at all, they reduced it to $2800.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (B/VB5)


If you have a doctor you can often work through them to get big discounts at the hospital where that doctor works (there's a term for it but I can't think of it practicing rights or something). I read someone did that and spent $3,000 on something that would've come in at $18,000.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (oFCZn)

240 Posted by: tcn at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (fwcEs)

But it sounds better than the Unaffordable Wealth Transfer and Citizen Disposition Act!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (cb/Vq)

241 Let the Thanksgiving burns begin....


Burn one now on wrist. Burns two to six to come in the next two days....stay tuned.

Posted by: Tami at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (bCEmE)

242 My dentist gives a discount for cash but it isn't much. Something like 2%. I'm sure others take off more.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 01:51 PM (oFCZn)


---------------------------------------------


I got 15% off. Find another dentist that'll give you a better deal. It's one of the perks of the free market as long as we still have it.
Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (FtgP2)

Hey you pay me in real currency, by that I mean Chinese Yuan, and I call it let's make a deal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 01:59 PM (t3UFN)

243 Think I'll think about finding a job today.



Posted by: Sub-Optimal-Man at November 26, 2013 02:00 PM (wmU4G)

244 I got 15% off. Find another dentist that'll give you a better deal. It's one of the perks of the free market as long as we still have it.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 01:57 PM (FtgP2)


Yeah I'm going to soon. I have some issues that need addressing. Probably already going to lose a few teeth as it is.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 02:00 PM (oFCZn)

245 Hmmm. That secret interface I wrote for the IRS must be gumming things up. Back to the pawboard.

Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster at November 26, 2013 02:00 PM (Dwehj)

246 Clambake!

Posted by: Elvis Poisely at November 26, 2013 02:01 PM (MyCIp)

247 In china, i have heard that you go to doctors offices and they are like

the food court at the mall with prices listed on a board outside. You

pick the doctor, and procedure based on how much you are willing to pay.
-
Can you get volume discounts for abortions?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 26, 2013 02:01 PM (XUKZU)

248 Thanks flounder

Posted by: RWC at November 26, 2013 02:01 PM (fWAjv)

249 I saw Suboptimal Performance opening for The Iranian's November 2013. It was the bomb

Posted by: Nation of Isreal at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (p74mI)

250 Limbaugh said you can get *steep* discounts paying cash. He had a caller who said he was quoted $16k for a procedure at a hospital. When he convinced them he was paying cash and no insurance was involved at all, they reduced it to $2800.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2013 01:55 PM (B/VB5)


----------------------------------------------------


He's right. It's why the overseas medical market is going to expand. Competition, people. It's a wonderful thing.

What people are going to find out is that free market medicine is the most affordable of all.

Posted by: Soona at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (FtgP2)

251 It was actually a bit frightening.

I hadn't been to a major local mall in about five years until Saturday and I was shocked. A major anchor store had about half the merchandise on hand from the last time I had been there. The parking lot was about 20% full, vs the almost no-damn-place to park that it used to enjoy.

Yes, frightening is the word I'd use, too.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (1H61p)

252 "That hangover was fun, let me tell you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 01:49 PM"


Have you seen YDAD's 'Dishonest-tea' vid?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (knoK7)

253 The website is the least of the clusterfuck that 404Care is.

If the OFA cultists try filibustering about the awesomeness of 404Care during Thanksgiving dinner, I predict a scene where Frank Slade chokes his nephew will be played out over and over this year

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (aTXUx)

254 What do ya'll do with the other 5 minutes?
Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 01:52 PM (KjlbF)



*smoothing clothes; checking hair*

Why I'm SURE I don't know what you mean. I'm a good girl I am. Driver and I were just... talking.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (4df7R)

255 Discount miscount. I offer Chivas/Vodka/Wine and more. You name it I offer it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (t3UFN)

256 Iran Accuses Obama of Lying About Geneva Nuke Deal…
-
So who do we believe, the crazy evil Islamists or our serial lying president?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (XUKZU)

257 Also the dentist I've gone to I've been going to my whole life. Good guy but he got out of dental school fifty years ago. I'd like to find someone who is cheaper and can remember going to school.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (oFCZn)

258 I'm still partial to "poor customer service", but "suboptimal performance" is growing on me.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (XvrTA)

259 Can you get volume discounts for abortions?


Sure. Chi-com 7.62x39 is cheap.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 02:03 PM (cUARf)

260 You're not unemployed, dude, you are just having a period of suboptimal performance.

Posted by: Roy at November 26, 2013 02:04 PM (VndSC)

261 If you have a doctor you can often work through them to get big discounts at the hospital where that doctor works (there's a term for it but I can't think of it practicing rights or something). I read someone did that and spent $3,000 on something that would've come in at $18,000.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 01:58 PM (oFCZn)


Privileges.


At my old job, we dealt with trying to figure out who paid what on a medical bill and how much various entities got back in liens. It was insanely complicated. Plus there was always the fun of making sure you got each and every bill from every provider since everyone is now an "independent contractor" of the hospital. Good times, good times.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 02:04 PM (VtjlW)

262 Hail to the king

Hail to the one

Kneel to the crown

Stand in the sun

Avenged Sevenfold or Obama supporter's inner monologue?

Posted by: The Governor at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (Tlix5)

263 Thank you AtC

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (oFCZn)

264 You'll be glad to know full bush is back, baby!

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-11-25/full-bush-is-back-in-style-out-of-sheer-laziness/


Apparently, do to laziness.....s-o-o-o-o only Democrats and Obama voters are going full bush?


Perhaps they could do a show and tell about that at Thanksgiving dinner instead of a propaganda spew for 0-care.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 26, 2013 02:06 PM (0cMkb)

265 My alternate career choices would Plumber of Vet. Both of which get you
for a minimum of 300.00 before they touch your pooch or pipes.
-
If I had to do it all over again, I'd go for quality control engineer in a whore house.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (XUKZU)

266 That's President SubOptimal wingnuts, Three (swish), Fore (divot).

Posted by: DaveA at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (DL2i+)

267
Holy...just had a third customer this month call us for copies of
invoices for insurance reasons....ALL three said their business' burnt
down.



This is optimal for the local economy.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (wmU4G)

268 This Atari they gave me to develop the 404Care database just ain't cuttin' it. Sigh.

Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (Dwehj)

269
>>>You'll be glad to know full bush is back, baby! <<<



Can't wait for the porn stache to make it's long-overdue return. 70s here we come.

Posted by: Roy at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (VndSC)

270 16
Wasn't Suboptimal Performance one of the Transformers?

Barack Obama IS Suboptimal Prime, in....

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (XO6WW)

271 OT, but I have got an itch on the sole of my foot and it is driving me slowly, inexorably MAAAAAAAAAAD.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (4df7R)

272 Every topic here really DOES end up in porn, doesn't it?


I thought this one would be a stretch, but it only took 264 comments to get there.



Impressive.

Posted by: tcn at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (fwcEs)

273 Those years between outbreaks---> "periods of suboptimal performance"

Posted by: teh Plague at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (8GKDa)

274 >Why I'm SURE I don't know what you mean. I'm a good girl I am. Driver and I were just... talking.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (4df7R)<

I have never had a conversation with a woman that left her looking so....satisfied. But that is probably on me.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (KjlbF)

275 What people are going to find out is that free market medicine is the most affordable of all.

Just like it was prior to FDR's wage freezes.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (B/VB5)

276 Randy Slade; "You see, Uncle Frank had this shitty old policy that only covered catastrophic.."

Lt Col Frank Slade; "Look at me when you're talking, Randy .."

Randy Slade; "what kind of lunatic only buys catastrophic coverage? Anyway, his insurance policy got cancelled .."

Lt Col Frank Slade; ".. the one that got away.."

Randy: "You know what.. he was an asshole before he got cancelled. Now he's just an uninsured asshole.."

Frank Slade; "Hoo-wah.."

Randy; "So.. you get the point.. Chuckie?"

BAM!!!!

Frank Slade; "His name is Charles, or Charlie. This is a Ranger Chokehold I teach to those 2nd Lieutenants.. one move and I break your windpipe"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (aTXUx)

277 251
It was actually a bit frightening.



I hadn't been to a major local mall in about five years until
Saturday and I was shocked. A major anchor store had about half the
merchandise on hand from the last time I had been there. The parking lot
was about 20% full, vs the almost no-damn-place to park that it used to
enjoy.



Yes, frightening is the word I'd use, too.


Unless you're a teenager and view going to the mall as a social exercise, why would you? I haven't gone to a mall in years and years because online is so much better in terms of both experience and price, not to mention evaluations from lots of people. Brick and mortar retail is going the way of newspapers, possible excepting clothing, but even that is in trouble.

Posted by: pep at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (6TB1Z)

278 Can't wait for the porn stache to make it's long-overdue return. 70s here we come.


Posted by: Roy at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (VndSC)


Unless you look like Magnum PI, odds are it would make you look like a skeeve.

Posted by: tcn at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (fwcEs)

279 "OT, but I have got an itch on the sole of my foot and it is driving me slowly, inexorably MAAAAAAAAAAD.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM"


Is this genuine Maaadness, or do you just have an urge to put underpants on your head and stick a couple of pencils up your nose?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (knoK7)

280 Have you seen YDAD's 'Dishonest-tea' vid?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:02 PM (knoK7)



That. Is. Awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)

281 "That. Is. Awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM"

You're welcome!

"Get out of my room, mom!!!1!"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:11 PM (knoK7)

282
"Every topic here really DOES end up in porn, doesn't it?"

*Halo popping up above head*


Why, whatever do you mean?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 26, 2013 02:11 PM (LA7Cm)

283 Is this genuine Maaadness, or do you just have an urge to put underpants on your head and stick a couple of pencils up your nose?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:10 PM (knoK7)


No, this is very real. I could never pull off a "Blackadder."

*eye twitches*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:11 PM (4df7R)

284 Don't most guys wash out of pron due to "suboptimal performance"?

Posted by: Cold Count de Monet at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (BAS5M)

285 This is optimal for the local economy.



Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 02:07 PM (wmU4G)
**
Not optimal!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (wmU4G)

286 Can't wait for the porn stache to make it's long-overdue return.

Pop by my office. We're having a contest.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (ZKzrr)

287 I have never had a conversation with a woman that left her looking so....satisfied.
Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 02:09 PM (KjlbF)


And you still haven't

;-)

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (F3G1y)

288 If you want to see a 1970's class porn stash, check out Aaron Rodgers lately.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 02:13 PM (KjlbF)

289 Is this like mass producing skittle shitting unicorns??

Posted by: Submariner at November 26, 2013 02:13 PM (SB5Q1)

290 Can't wait for the porn stache to make it's long-overdue return. 70s here we come.


$40 an ounce? True nickle bag?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 02:13 PM (cUARf)

291 Roger that Bannion.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 02:14 PM (KjlbF)

292 "No, this is very real. I could never pull off a "Blackadder."


*eye twitches*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:11 PM"

*inserts reference to Pulp Fiction foot massage dialogue*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:14 PM (knoK7)

293 "Pop by my office. We're having a contest.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM"

As long as mullets aren't involved as well, there's still hope.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2013 02:15 PM (knoK7)

294 284
Don't most guys wash out of pron due to "suboptimal performance"?

Posted by: Cold Count de Monet at November 26, 2013 02:12 PM (BAS5M)

I wasn't aware the most guys tried it, but hey, I learn something new every day, often right here.

Posted by: tcn at November 26, 2013 02:16 PM (fwcEs)

295 I offer this discount. If you can drink me under the table while I drill, you get it for free

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 02:16 PM (t3UFN)

296 Nood up!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 02:16 PM (cUARf)

297 I'd almost join Twitter to use the #NukeIowaCity hash. Almost.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 26, 2013 02:16 PM (KjlbF)

298 Speaking of the devil, just got the mail. Letter from wife's insurance carrier. As of January 1, 2014 (as req'd by ObamaCare) her coverage will include Bariatric (obesity) surgery. Other changes, which will increase costs to the insured I have to ponder some more.

Since she weighs about 110 pounds I don't think she'll be opting for the Kris Krispy treatment.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 02:17 PM (1H61p)

299
There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today. I think the modern term is "suboptimal".

If by suboptimal you mean "explodes with catastrophic loss of life when you scratch it".


Posted by: Zombie Admiral David Beatty at November 26, 2013 02:18 PM (TIIx5)

300 Somebody's gonna pay for the 404Care debacle and it's probably gonna be me. I'll prolly end up as a midnight snack or a sammich or something. Ruff.

Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster at November 26, 2013 02:18 PM (Dwehj)

301
>>I hadn't been to a major local mall in about five years until Saturday and I was shocked. A major anchor store had about half the merchandise on hand from the last time I had been there. The parking lot was about 20% full, vs the almost no-damn-place to park that it used to enjoy.

Yes, frightening is the word I'd use, too.
.
.We are losing the Sears store in the Mall here in Lexington, KY. They are closing up on 31 December. They won't honor any Sears deals, coupons or fliers, they won' even deliver appliances that are sitting on the floor.There are signs all over the place and every single receipt you get is stamped in red "All sales Final".

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 26, 2013 02:19 PM (nUbHY)

302 I wasn't aware the most guys tried it, but hey, I learn something new every day, often right here.

Suboptimal sentence construction on my part. I meant for "most guys" to be that subset of skeevy horndogs who, lacking other bonafide prospects for a career, think of becoming a pron god.

Posted by: Cold Count de Monet at November 26, 2013 02:27 PM (BAS5M)

303 Get this. We knew Obamacare was, get this, a scam 4 years ago.

Posted by: NCwoof at November 26, 2013 02:30 PM (aUQgu)

304 Posted by: Rob Ford at November 26, 2013 01:28 PM (Kkt/i) --- That is good. Took me a while to get it

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 26, 2013 01:20 PM (nTgAI) --- With Obama, every night is a Summer's Eve!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2013 01:24 PM (8ZskC) --- I love his noodles!

Posted by: Baldy at November 26, 2013 02:31 PM (2bql3)

305 271 OT, but I have got an itch on the sole of my foot and it is driving me slowly, inexorably MAAAAAAAAAAD.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 02:08 PM (4df7R)


We can help you with that.

Posted by: Dick Morris and Rex Ryan at November 26, 2013 02:48 PM (sEULB)

306 I'd like to humbly recommend an AoSHQ telethon for December 1st, to encourage people to try the new and improved site out. If the SCOAMF is encouraging people to avoid the site he's been promising will be up and operational, we should fill the void and help test the system. Maybe we can have people "pledge" in the comments section as they've attempted to log in, and document all the issues they've had. Maybe have it as a drinking game, where we pledge to take drinks when certain numbers of hits have been reached.

Whatever...just looking for an excuse to enjoy my Sunday with two beloved pastimes: drinking and screwing with progressives

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 26, 2013 03:18 PM (P0HaB)

307 Tell 'em we'll log on,
and wait Iill we drop,
It's time to get down and do the suboptimal bop

Posted by: Wee Dieter at November 26, 2013 04:01 PM (ZeRZD)

308 Tell 'em we'll log on,
and wait till we drop,
It's time to get down and do the suboptimal bop.

Posted by: Wee Dieter at November 26, 2013 04:01 PM (ZeRZD)

309 CMS spokeswoman Julie Bataille said errors that persist past this weekend would be "intermittent" and, in line with a promise made by the White House, would not affect the vast majority of the site's users.
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Much like the insurance policy cancelations will not affect a vast majority?
From the WH: FU, you little peons!

Posted by: socalcon at November 26, 2013 04:40 PM (vHlQ5)






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