Top Headline Comments (11-26-2013)

About that Obamacare cost-curve bending: The Government抯 Own Actuaries Think Obamacare Is Raising, Not Lowering, Costs

No, really: Miller and McCloskey: The Next ObamaCare Mirage
The new line is that the health-care law will save money. That's also not true.

Another Healthcare.gov shoe drops: ID Verification Lagging on Health Care Website. Related: People are really uploading images of their drivers licenses to this insecure POS? I'm sure that'll work out great.

How it's done: NR's Kevin Williamson smacks the hell out of a litany of progressive talking points.

Have a great day, Serious You Guys.

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Posted by: Andy at 06:35 AM



Comments

1 So even the name "Affordable" is a lie. LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 06:36 AM (t+DWU)

2

DAY 387

1,074 to go (1,145 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 06:38 AM (olDqf)

3 What isn't a lie about CACA?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 06:38 AM (t+DWU)

4 Andy is early today. Good thing I have nothing this morning. But I am back from all the road trips.

Posted by: Vic at November 26, 2013 06:40 AM (YowqD)

5
Two hour delay for the little tax exemptions this morning.....only school system in the area that is not closed outright.

There's just nothing more entertaining than watching inexperienced teen drivers trying to negotiate a tricky curved sloping road on their way to school when it's covered with snow, and slush. There should be a few fender benders this morning.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 26, 2013 06:40 AM (0IhFx)

6 Well, my insurance, which was not great to begin with but was relatively cheap and covered much of what I want and need, is now $225 more per month with a $5,500 deductible.

Thank you, Fabian Socialism. (However, I still think Fabian is dreamy)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 06:41 AM (olDqf)

7 Good morning Morons.

Posted by: dogfish at November 26, 2013 06:41 AM (nsOJa)

8 That Kevin Williamson link went to some hippie outfit called Forward Progressive.

Posted by: FART at November 26, 2013 06:41 AM (i14bS)

9 Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their
coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several
experts predicted.




BS, there are well over 150M with employer health care and unless congress amends the law ALL of them will lose their insurance. Why you ask? Because every healthcare plan in the country has has some change to either their coverage or their rates.

Posted by: Vic at November 26, 2013 06:44 AM (YowqD)

10 That Kevin Williamson link went to some hippie outfit called Forward Progressive.



Even my smartphone is hard right. It kept closing the browser. LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 06:44 AM (t+DWU)

11 >> That Kevin Williamson link went to some hippie outfit called Forward Progressive

Yup. Give it a second to load ... the awesomeness is in a comment he left there.

Posted by: Andy at November 26, 2013 06:44 AM (0ZQCB)

12 I think the KDW pimp-slap response deserves its own post. Might come in handy on Thursday.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 06:50 AM (olDqf)

13 Oh Gawd,

What am I postwise? I didn't even make eleventy!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 26, 2013 06:51 AM (LffmZ)

14 Lucky 13!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 26, 2013 06:51 AM (LffmZ)

15 Damn!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 26, 2013 06:51 AM (LffmZ)

16 You're right, Andy. That comment was excellent. It got overwhelmingly positive marks on a hard left site.

What's really amazing (and depressing) is how little liberals seem to know about how government works.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 06:54 AM (g1DWB)

17 Good morning, Comrades. What fresh hell shall this day bring?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 26, 2013 06:55 AM (C1ZvJ)

18 Read the story accusing Katy Perry "cultural appropriation" from the right column. It's the newest product offering from the perpetually aggrieved for fun and profit industry. This from the story is particularly noteworthy:

"[Miley Cyrus' performance is] adeptly likened to stealing in the sense that Miley played the part of a marginalized individual, without any genuine experience of marginalization..."

I can think of someone else that applies to -- the half-black fellow raised by whites in Indonesia, Honolulu, the Punahou School, Columbia and Harvard who routinely affects the patois, accent and mannerisms of a downtrodden south side Chicago pimp.


Posted by: frouper at November 26, 2013 06:57 AM (YBusZ)

19 Regarding that Williamson comment, it astounds me how leftist can go from outcome based arguments to process based arguments in the same sentence, using each whenever it benefits their side.

To wit: the job market under Obama is doing horribly because those damn republicans just get in his way. Despite that he has led to the stock market booming to over 16000. The economy under Clinton was fantastic and he deserves all the credit for it and balancing the budget. Saint Reagan quadrupled the deficit and his economy was all about increasing inequality, a legacy that still haunts us today.

All use different forms of logic to arrive at the same conclusion, Democrats are great and Republicans suck. Both will be deployed as needed to come to their already formed conclusion.

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 26, 2013 06:58 AM (ZQ1Nh)

20 Why in the fuck am I hearing audio from someone (a woman and a man) talking everytime I open the page.

Autoplay media for the MOTHER FUCKING loss.

Posted by: blindside at November 26, 2013 07:00 AM (mXJ34)

21 17 Good morning, Comrades. What fresh hell shall this day bring?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 26, 2013 06:55 AM (C1ZvJ)


It's the same fucking hell, 24 hours later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:02 AM (olDqf)

22 18 "...who routinely affects the patois, accent and mannerisms of a downtrodden south side Chicago pimp."

Posted by: frouper at November 26, 2013 06:57 AM (YBusZ)



Huggy Bear, upside yo head in 5432...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:04 AM (olDqf)

23 Could someone post the comment in response to the filthy hippie. My adblockers and such won't let me access the comments.
Work computer first world problems, etc...

Posted by: Snafu at November 26, 2013 07:06 AM (g/0PX)

24 I'm listening the podcast from last week. Gabe and Co. is all over the place. The statement that a 'child tax credit' isn't conservative because the government shouldn't be picking winners and losers, was preceded not 15 minutes before by the argument that we need to 'keep' some of JEFCare like the stay on insurance until 26 and 'everyone can get health insurance'.

Clearly, more requirements of the over-regulated insurance industry is 'conservative', while letting people keep more of their money isn't.

I'm well aware of the context that the term 'breeders' is used in the gay community, Gabe. You should be taken to task for your use of it.

Posted by: blindside at November 26, 2013 07:08 AM (mXJ34)

25 Even the periods and commas are lies.

Only the ampersands are based on truth.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 26, 2013 07:08 AM (29WYI)

26 People are really uploading images of their drivers licenses to this insecure POS? I'm sure that'll work out great.

* taking notes *

Posted by: Nigerian Identity Thieves Local 325 at November 26, 2013 07:09 AM (1H61p)

27 Now trying to find the Kevin Williamson piece. It looks like a good start to the morning.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 26, 2013 07:10 AM (xUMg/)

28 Peace for our time!!!!

*Drudge, just now*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 26, 2013 07:10 AM (29WYI)

29 NY Times, front page, October 1st, 1938:

"Britain & Germany Make Anti-War Pact; Hitler Gets Less Than His Sudeten Demands."


Really dodged a bullet there. Just like with Iran.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:11 AM (olDqf)

30 Sleet rain in charlotte. Dropped the kid off at school since people drive like maniacs. Morning!

Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 07:11 AM (vjZKo)

31 >>Really dodged a bullet there. Just like with Iran.

Check out the headline at Drudge.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 07:13 AM (g1DWB)

32 Looks like the rain is starting later today and will be here through Thursday.

Rainy Thanksgiving for NYC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:13 AM (olDqf)

33 31 >>Really dodged a bullet there. Just like with Iran.

Check out the headline at Drudge.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 07:13 AM (g1DWB)


Jeez. President Neville Zelig

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:14 AM (olDqf)

34 I fully expect the Chi-Coms to move on the Senkaku's and maybe even the Spratley's. G-d forbid Taiwan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (olDqf)

35 I dunno, maybe the leftwing site deleted the comment, I can't get it either.

Posted by: mallfly at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (LIEbV)

36 Hey, 23, here's the full comment (the questions are embedded):




Allow me to answer these for you real quick:


1) If Republicans are so fiscally responsible, why was President
Eisenhower (in the 1950′s) the last Republican president to balance the
budget?


Answer: False premise; the last Republican to balance the budget was
Newt Gingrich. Presidents don抰 write budgets, cannot authorize
spending, and cannot authorize taxes. Congress does that.


2) If President Reagan was such a fiscally conservative hero, why did
he quadruple our national debt during his eight years in the White
House?


Answer: False premise; Tip O扤eill quadrupled the national debt.
Presidents don抰 write budgets, cannot authorize spending, and cannot
authorize taxes. Congress does that.


3) If tax breaks are the main driving force behind job creation, how
would we create jobs once tax rates were reduced to practically zero?


Answer: Tax breaks are not the main force behind job creation; demand for labor is the main force behind job creation.


4) If socialized health care is so awful, why does every country that
leads the world in life expectancy have socialized health care?


Answer: What on earth do you mean by 搒ocialized medicine? If you
mean single-payer, then your premises are, as seems to be the developing
trend here, wrong. The longest-lived countries are Japan and
Switzerland, neither of which is single-payer. Counterquestion: If
socialized medicine is great, how come people on Medicaid have some
terrible health outcomes?


5) If you support the freedom of religion (as per our Constitution),
and my church recognizes gay marriage, isn抰 your support for the
banning of same-sex marriage an attack on my religion抯 First Amendment
rights?


Answer: No, your church can believe what it wants. The question is
the legal status of same-sex relationships. Counterquestion: The Church
of Kevin says nobody should ever have to pay more than 10 percent in
taxes -- is the IRS violating my First Amendment rights?


6) What抯 more realistic? 1) That an entire region of the United
States that supported slavery in the late-1800′s and support segregation
in the 1950′s and 60′s suddenly stopped being racist, or 2) The racist
southern Democrats in the south became Republicans during the 50′s and
60′s when the Republican party shifted toward an idea called the
揝outhern Strategy, where the GOP appealed to the racism in southern
whites who didn抰 like African Americans voting for Democrats.


Answer: False premise. Southern voters in the main did not become
Republicans until the 1990s, as shown by Southern congressional
delegations, state governments, etc. In presidential elections, Southern
states voted overwhelmingly for Republicans such as Nixon and Reagan,
but then so did Vermont. The Southern congressional caucus was
Democratic until 1994; Mississippi had one Republican governor in all
the 20th century, and that not until 1994, which seems like a long time
to wait to punish Democrats for partially supporting a Republican
civil-rights bill in 1965.


7) If taxes are at some of their lowest levels in history, and the
wealthiest in this country are richer than ever, why hasn抰 the growth
in the wealth of the middle class matched that of the top 2%?


Answer: Because in a world of globally integrated markets returns to
skill and entrepreneurial success at the high end of the market are very
large, while pressure on moderate-to-low-skill wages is very strong.
Wealthy Americans are getting wealthier for the same reason that wealthy
Swedes are getting wealthier, despite having a very different tax code.


If our Founding Fathers wanted this nation to be based on
Christianity, why don抰 the words 揅hristian or 揅hristianity appear
even once in our Constitution?


Answer: They expected the republic to continue as part of Christian
civilization, not to have a U.S. version of the Church of England. India
has a secular constitution, but nobody seems to much doubt that it is a
Hindu country, in spite of the presence of non-Hindu minorities.


9) If a Republican president reduced massive job losses in the midst
of the worst recession in nearly a century by more than 50% in his first
4 months in office; presided over 44 consecutive months of
private-sector job growth creating nearly 8 million jobs; killed Osama
bin Ladin; saw stock markets reach all-time highs; saved the American
auto industry; increased domestic oil production to highs not seen since
the late-90′s and championed the largest year-to-year deficit
reductions since World War II, would your party not be calling him a
hero and a legend?


Answer: Since when did you guys start loving the stock market, which
contributes so much to the inequality you抮e so worried about in No. 7?
Counterquestion: If a Republican president抯 term coincided with the
lowest workforce-participation rate in recent history, an illegal war in
Libya, and the illegal assassination of U.S. citizens based on their
Facebook histories, would you not call him . . . something less than
heroic?


10. If Jesus spent his life helping the poor and the needy, how does
it make sense that a party which claims to be for 揅hristian values
continues to cut funding for programs that help the poor and the needy?


Answer: Let me help you out here: Jesus commanded his followers to
feed the hungry and clothe the naked. He did not command them to
petition Caesar to seize their neighbors assets and to use them to feed
the hungry and clothe the naked. Also, you抮e begging the question: If
you compare money spent to changes in the poverty rate, there is little
or no evidence that these programs actually 揾elp the poor and the
needy. They do create a lot of full-time jobs and vote banks for
Democrats. By their fruit shall ye know them.


CONCLUSION: Whoever wrote this questionnaire, which is in fact no so
much a questionnaire as a litany of banalities, is not very bright and
should be kept far from the levers of political power.


Posted by: WesternActor at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (bx8EK)

37 Well, my insurance, which was not great to begin with but was relatively cheap and covered much of what I want and need, is now $225 more per month with a $5,500 deductible.

Thank you, Fabian Socialism. (However, I still think Fabian is dreamy)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 06:41 AM (olDqf)

TFG said yesterday that the "success" of the California exchanges proves that your new insurance is what you really wanted.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (uzmcT)

38 AP knew about the "secret" Iran give-away well in advance and did not report it.


It would be nice if we had a real press here.


http://tinyurl.com/q449los

Posted by: Vic at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (YowqD)

39 I get it - I had to turn off NoScript.
That comment that Williamson left is fantastic. I'm going to have to squirrel it away for future consultation.

Posted by: FART at November 26, 2013 07:17 AM (i14bS)

40 Jackstraw. this paragraph was a laugh.

But it also reflects a broader scaling-back of the use of American
muscle, not least in the Middle East, as well as a willingness to deal
with foreign governments as they are rather than to push for new leaders
that better embody American values. 揜egime change, in Iran or even
Syria, is out; cutting deals with former adversaries is in

remember when we learned of red lines?
nevermind that 'arab spring" had encouragment from some of His ole pals like dorhn and ayers visits to egypt?
remember how egyptians really disliked their New Pick as president and wanted the miliatry to oust him? eyc.

fgs the mf media!

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:17 AM (nqBYe)

41 Bad Santa

Mall Santa 62, Busted For Groping Female Elf, 18

http://tinyurl.com/p8axsve

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 07:18 AM (d0Dmj)

42
The authorities rethunked their previously flawed thinking, and went ahead and cancelled school for the day. So the plan is.....feed the sprogs some cereal, bundle them up, and make em play outside until their fingers turn blue.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 26, 2013 07:18 AM (0IhFx)

43 I fully expect the Chi-Coms to move on the Senkaku's and maybe even the Spratley's. G-d forbid Taiwan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (olDqf)

If they do that, they will be risking a strongly-worded statement from the administration.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 26, 2013 07:18 AM (uzmcT)

44 37 Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (uzmcT)


By the way, when I said my insurance was not great to begin with, I meant that the insurance COMPANY was not great to begin with. The people I death with are not the sharpest tools in the shed, but the policy is (was) good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:19 AM (olDqf)

45 The real solution is to eliminate all health insurance period. Make it just like every other thing you use and buy, pay as you go. Costs would come down, you eliminate the middle man and I would not have to see that stupid ass duck on TV yelling about free shit. Otherwise, I volunteer to be on a death panel. Just let me get my SS camp doctor's uniform from Army-Navy surplus.....

Posted by: IrishEd at November 26, 2013 07:20 AM (D0NZx)

46 and kevin williamson did an excellant job, but i believe some on the progressive board are fighting the right to keep your ass'ets covereed

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:20 AM (nqBYe)

47 Just popping in quick - tons of work today, so no Hollywood story. Maybe on the morning dump.

**wonders if Dunkin's sells a cocaine and coffee smoothie**

bbl.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 07:20 AM (zF6Iw)

48 38 AP knew about the "secret" Iran give-away well in advance and did not report it.


It would be nice if we had a real press here.


http://tinyurl.com/q449los
Posted by: Vic at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (YowqD)


The closest thing to a real paper here is the UK Daily Mail. Maybe the NY Post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:21 AM (olDqf)

49 47 Just popping in quick - tons of work today, so no Hollywood story. Maybe on the morning dump.

**wonders if Dunkin's sells a cocaine and coffee smoothie**

bbl.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 07:20 AM (zF6Iw)



Sprinkles, baby!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:21 AM (olDqf)

50
Today's celebrity birthdays:

Bat Masterson (friend of Wyatt)
Bruno Hauptmann (chairman)
RADM William Parsons (armed the bomb)
Eric Sevareid (nutshells)
Charles Schulz (classic funnies)
Robert Goulet (forgot the lyrics)
Rich Little (75 today)
Mark Margolis (bell ringer)
Tina Turner (renouncing?)
Daniel Davis (defeated Data?)
Dale Jarrett (32 wins)
Jerry Schemmel (survived UA232)
Peter Facinelli (40 today)

Posted by: Gran at November 26, 2013 07:22 AM (mw0FO)

51 putin must be laughing his rear end off.
so this is the year of iran, russia and china, and muslim brotherhood

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:22 AM (nqBYe)

52 That Kevin Williamson link went to some hippie outfit called Forward Progressive.

And behold, I saw a field of burning strawmen.

Posted by: toby928 insists on talking about robots at November 26, 2013 07:23 AM (QupBk)

53 Morning morons. Day 6 of 6 pulling 12s in the ER, vacation starts tomorrow. Have seen some bad stuff the last few days, hoping for a bumps and bruises kind of day.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 26, 2013 07:25 AM (b2cFu)

54 If you like your Monroe Doctrine, you can keep your Monroe Doctrine.



Kan we haz milluterry koo?????


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:25 AM (olDqf)

55 50 Posted by: Gran at November 26, 2013 07:22 AM (mw0FO)


You never see Bruno Hauptmann and Harry Reid in the same room together.

Hmm.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:26 AM (olDqf)

56 also that the progressives fighting williamson think somehow giving to the state is the SAME damn'd thing as giving to the poor.

They think the state needs a Big cut of the pie?

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:27 AM (nqBYe)

57 >>putin must be laughing his rear end off.
so this is the year of iran, russia and china, and muslim brotherhood

Remember when Romney said that Russia was our greatest geopolitical foe and the left laughed?

Good times.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 07:27 AM (g1DWB)

58 ConservaticeCrank, I'm sure the ER can be quite a horror show, Thank G-d for people like you.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:28 AM (nqBYe)

59 What's really amazing (and depressing) is how little liberals seem to know about how government works.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 06:54 AM (g1DWB)


Since that's the avenue to all their dreams and aspirations, maybe the lack of knowledge of how the pile of shit works is the only thing keeping them from Jonestown 2. I say we force the knowledge on them and see what happens.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2013 07:29 AM (XMN6v)

60 Jackstraw!
our enemies are whoever Obama says they are!

that would be us according to His own words.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:29 AM (nqBYe)

61 you know if the state is going to take care of me I want it to work like the U.K's where they pay for my fabulous vacay as I haven't had one in over a decade.

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:32 AM (nqBYe)

62 Sure we have no inflation in the US. But the price of fresh chicken hit a new record high in Oct.


http://tinyurl.com/oyp42l7

Posted by: Vic at November 26, 2013 07:32 AM (YowqD)

63 Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 07:11 AM (vjZKo)

Sorry O/T.

Think you left thread yesterday after fussing about Safari. Try Mercury on your iPhone.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 26, 2013 07:32 AM (gHDMy)

64 snicker, just call me mz. chat-alot

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:33 AM (nqBYe)

65 grabs morons shirt collars and says, "Talk to me!"

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:35 AM (nqBYe)

66 Thank God I finally got my laptop back and working (hard drive crash FTMFL); that munchkin keyboard on the iPhone was driving me nuts although at least I learned how to do a ton of shit on it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2013 07:36 AM (XMN6v)

67 Thanks golfman!

Posted by: NCKate at November 26, 2013 07:36 AM (vjZKo)

68 fine, throws eggs and bacon in the garbage disposal, flounces out,::: slamming door:::

Posted by: willow at November 26, 2013 07:36 AM (nqBYe)

69 Answer: Tax breaks are not the main force behind job creation; demand for labor is the main force behind job creation.

Demand for labor is caused by the difference between costs (which include taxes) and revenue. If revenue is higher then costs, then business will add more labor to increase revenue.

High taxes kill demand for labor by destroying any positive difference between revenue and costs. But to the FSA the word 'profit' (the positive difference between revenue and costs) is a filthy word. To them, tens of millions of Americans unemployed is acceptable as long as businesses do not create a profit.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 07:38 AM (1H61p)

70 Amazon has The Worst Hard Time on sale for the Kindle for $2.99. This is a great book folks.


http://tinyurl.com/qeghech

Posted by: Vic at November 26, 2013 07:41 AM (YowqD)

71
>>Sure we have no inflation in the US. But the price of fresh chicken hit a new record high in Oct.

.
.
.
.That's not inflation, that is the Dollar being devalued. It amounts to the same thing, but the intentional devaluation of the dollar is a hidden tax of people who actually save money.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 26, 2013 07:42 AM (kYfFr)

72 That's how I felt with Firefox, Captain, my scribbles looked like conversational Klingon, while drunk on Blood Wine,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 26, 2013 07:42 AM (Jsiw/)

73 I'm pretty sure the first liberal response to that Q&A was "Racist!".

Posted by: dogfish at November 26, 2013 07:44 AM (nsOJa)

74 Since that's the avenue to all their dreams and aspirations, maybe the lack of knowledge of how the pile of shit works is the only thing keeping them from Jonestown 2. I say we force the knowledge on them and see what happens.


Seconded. All in favor say "Aye".
Aye.
The Ayes have it & the motion passes.
Sgt. at Arms, please begin passing out the "Kool-Aid".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 07:44 AM (cUARf)

75 But the price of fresh chicken hit a new record high in Oct.



Is that for eatin' chickens, or for fuckin' chickens?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 07:46 AM (cUARf)

76 I never tried Firefox on the Iphone; it pisses me off enough on the pc although, like a fucking idiot, I use it as my default browser. Golfman gave me a rec on Mercury which I liked for a while but then it went hinky on me (it was probably because I didn't know to reboot my iPhone at the time, which obviously I've subsequently learned) and I went back to using Safari which seemed fine for what I wanted.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2013 07:46 AM (XMN6v)

77 Hey! You didn't create that profit, we did! And we want it back!-Prez. Golfmore

Good Morning, Tok, Alaska!

Posted by: Case at November 26, 2013 07:48 AM (VctSv)

78 City Orders Bar To Remove 'Thank A Veteran For Your Freedom!' Sign...(Drudge)

揑 love this place. The sign gives me the pride back that I lost I struggled a lot when I first came back, an Army vet told CBS2′s Stacey Butler.

...

揥e received a letter in the mail from the city stating that we have to remove it within two days or they were going to fine us, like, $940, says co-owner John Marovic.

...

The issue has some of the sign抯 supporters scratching their heads.

Said one veteran: 揑 can understand city ordinances, but it抯 been up there for 10 years. I don抰 understand why it抯 a problem now.

_____
(Andrew Breitbart could tell you: WAR.)

That's my way of saying, Good Morning, thinkers.

Posted by: mindful webworker and the calm before at November 26, 2013 07:51 AM (1zmtP)

79 Re: SIDEBAR:

If Katy Perry is guilty of 'cultural appropriation' by dressing as a geisha, I'm damn well telling any Asians that they're barred from dressing in, say, tuxedos.

Posted by: --- at November 26, 2013 07:54 AM (MMC8r)

80 >>If Katy Perry is guilty of 'cultural appropriation' by dressing as a geisha, I'm damn well telling any Asians that they're barred from dressing in, say, tuxedos.

Only problem is they probably made them.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 07:58 AM (g1DWB)

81 Posted by: WesternActor at November 26, 2013 07:16 AM (bx8EK)

Very good and concise replies. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:01 AM (23Kgq)

82 Did you see the Yahoo story about the woman in MO who was offended by her state-issued license plate and demanded a new one free of cost? It said WHO-R8X. I read it and read and and couldn't for the life of me figure out what the big deal was so read the story and she claimed it said "whore times 8". Whatever, lady. Get a life.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 26, 2013 08:01 AM (DoZD+)

83 Sorry you're having such long days in the ER, Conservative Crank. Thanks for your care for people. I hope you enjoy what sounds like a much needed rest.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:03 AM (23Kgq)

84 Ignorance and homophobia are increasing more and more these days. In Bridgewater, New Jersey, a waitress who served in the Marines was denied a tip because of her 揼ay lifestyle, according to The Huffington Post. The former soldier, Dayna Morales, introduced herself to a family at The Gallop Asian Bistro and received an offensive response. With Dayna抯 extremely short hair the mother of the family commented, 揙h I thought you were gonna say your name is Dan. You sure surprised us! The family, including two children, failed to leave a tip for Morales after eating a ninety-three dollar meal. On the receipt was a note that said, 揑抦 sorry, but I cannot tip because I do not agree with your lifestyle and how you live your life.

Only one problem with the story. The family has the original receipt and the credit card bill which shows they gave a tip. There was no writing on their copy of the receipt. The waitresses body language and lack of eye contact with reporter told me all I needed to know.

Straight-bashing, the new normal.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 08:03 AM (1H61p)

85 "While it may not be unusual for Obama to cast his
trained legal eye on government-to-government agreements, his close
attention to the wording of the deal-in-the-making underscored the
sensitivity of the breakthrough document and his determination to get it
right."

Reuters talking about Obama's deal with Iran.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lyo89h4

Of course, that assumes the Iranians will live by the terms of the agreement, and that assumes that both sides agree on what the agreement is.

Posted by: Ok, so . . . . at November 26, 2013 08:05 AM (9gslK)

86 straight-bashing or attention-whoring?

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 26, 2013 08:08 AM (DoZD+)

87 >>>> Katy Perry is guilty of 'cultural appropriation' by dressing as a geisha<<<

Ko-Ko is going to have to add a few more people to his list.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 26, 2013 08:10 AM (P/gm7)

88
Dear Andy: Is it true that after the end of each podcast, you pull a daisy train? If not, what are those gurgling and moaning noises that appear at the end of each recording?

Posted by: Fran鏾is Villon at November 26, 2013 08:12 AM (kkbgQ)

89 @ 82, I read that. I bet she voted for Obama and is a LIV.

I have a better plate for her in mind, they should replace it with this 1:

STU-P1D

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 26, 2013 08:13 AM (LffmZ)

90 Wait, wait, ACA won't save us money?

Dear God, I'm stunned!
If only there had been someone here at the HQ making this point for weeks, no, MONTHS now.

Someone whose studied these issues, perhaps? Maybe even gone to graduate school to better understand them.

No, such a person could hardly exist.

(I hate being right by the way, only because my predictions are getting more and more cynical and dire as time moves on. I'd rather start being wrong, and pleasantly surprised.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 08:14 AM (GaqMa)

91 "...the big deal was so read the story and she claimed it said 'whore times 8.' Whatever, lady. Get a life."
: katya, the designated driver

Yeah, that's pretty obscure; I don't think I would've got it. However, I sympathize - if she saw it, so will others - that's life in mass population. I've seen some plates that unintentionally (presumably) suggest things to me. But then, I hang out here.

Posted by: mindful webworker - traffic hazard at November 26, 2013 08:14 AM (8KGvR)

92 Morning, 憆ons and 憆onettes. Sorry for only a short story today, but I抣l make it up to you with a picture.


In 1963, Burt Lancaster starred in The Leopard, a movie based on the immensely popular novel of the same name by Italian author Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa. Lancaster played Don Fabrizio, a 19th century Sicilian nobleman caught up in the revolutionary fervor of the Italian Risorgimento. His co-star was the beautiful Claudia Cardinale as Angelica, the mayor抯 daughter.


The film was shot on location in Sicily and was visually sumptuous, much more than most of Lancaster抯 pictures. The star was proud of the movie and his role, and one day went to see the movie in a public theater.


His smile faded, though, when he heard the man behind him impatiently ask his wife, 揥hen抯 Lancaster going to screw Cardinale?


And here she is:


http://tinyurl.com/ls8ccnc


Here she is again, in a cheesecake shot:


http://tinyurl.com/lfqdx63


Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 08:15 AM (zF6Iw)

93 straight-bashing or attention-whoring?

Not sure. Here's a link for the story with pics of receipts...

http://tinyurl.com/oek6e9t

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 08:15 AM (1H61p)

94 Only one problem with the story. The family has the original receipt and the credit card bill which shows they gave a tip. There was no writing on their copy of the receipt. The waitresses body language and lack of eye contact with reporter told me all I needed to know.

Straight-bashing, the new normal.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 08:03 AM (1H61p)

I warned people about this story from day one. It seemed to fit the pattern of all the other hoax receipt stories.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 26, 2013 08:16 AM (uzmcT)

95 And while most Americans welcome in an early winter, Al Gore is on a tropical beach somewhere getting a cramp worked out of his..uh..leg by his private masseuse while drinking a mai tai and laughing his ass off at millions of people who bought into his big lie.

Posted by: Case at November 26, 2013 08:17 AM (VctSv)

96 "While it may not be unusual for Obama to cast his trained legal eye on government-to-government agreements, his close attention to the wording of the deal-in-the-making underscored the sensitivity of the breakthrough document and his determination to get it right."

The only "trained eye" that dog-eating crackhead has is the one zeroed in on Reggie's squeakhole.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw)

97 Back when the west was very young,
There lived a man named Masterson.
He wore a cane and derby hat,
They called him Bat, Bat Masterson.

A man of steel the stories say,
But women's eyes all glanced his way,
A gamblers' game he always won,
His name was Bat, Bat Masterson.

The trail that he blazed is still there.
No one has come since, to replace his name.
And those with too ready a trigger,
Forgot to figure on his lightning cane.

Now in the legend of the west,
One name stands out of all the rest.
The man who had the fastest gun,
His name was Bat, Bat Masterson.

Posted by: Fran鏾is Villon at November 26, 2013 08:17 AM (kkbgQ)

98 So we were promised that the bill was to provide health care/insurance to 30-45 million additional people AND we were going to be able to keep our existing plan and doctors AND we were each going to see a $2500 savings and and overall cost curve (down).

All this actually costs more? Who could have seen that coming?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:18 AM (JRmiD)

99 Evil Joooos Taking Wounded Syrians Left At Border To Israeli Hospitals For Treatment



Never in a million years would you see this story in reverse.

She was the 177th person to make the journey to the emergency room in what has become one of the most extraordinary subplots of Syria抯 agonising civil war.

Syria and Israel regard each other as enemies. A state of war has existed between them for decades.

And yet, since the first patients arrived around nine months ago, the informal system of patient transfer has become so well-established that some patients have even arrived with letters of referral written by doctors in Syria for their Israeli counterparts.

Morning all.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 08:18 AM (t3UFN)

100 Drudge has a link to a CBS affiliate that the majority of former "guests" of the Ayatollah are not happy with Teh Won's deal with Iran. The one former hostage said "It's like Jimmy Carter all over again". The only thing, Carter was naive and bumbling. Obama is venal and hates America and Israel.

Posted by: Hanktacus at November 26, 2013 08:20 AM (PLOz8)

101 Ooh, another busy day for Obama that starts before 10:00am....fundraising, of course:

9:00 am || Attends a DNC fundraiser; private residence, Los Angeles
10:50 am || Tours DreamWorks Animation; Glendale, Calif.
11:10 am || Meets with film industry representatives; DreamWorks Studios, Glendale, Calif.
12:15 pm || Delivers remarks; DreamWorks Studios, Glendale, Calif.
1:40 pm || Departs Los Angeles
9:20 pm ET || Arrives White House

I guess the only thing that gets O out of bed early is money.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:20 AM (JRmiD)

102 I warned people about this story from day one. It seemed to fit the pattern of all the other hoax receipt stories.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 26, 2013 08:16 AM (uzmcT)


Soooo after stories like this have been around for at least half a year, the really really smart tools at HuffPoo get taken like a bunch of clueless rubes? Geez, it's almost like Zsa Zsa could've snookered them.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2013 08:21 AM (XMN6v)

103 I read that. I bet she voted for Obama and is a LIV.

I have a better plate for her in mind, they should replace it with this 1:

STU-P1D
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean


ID10-T

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 08:22 AM (cUARf)

104 A New Jersey couple is reportedly disputing a story that made headlines nationwide about a gay waitress who was left a note criticizing her "lifestyle" instead of a tip, claiming their receipt shows they did leave a tip and didn't write the note.

Dayna Morales, an ex-Marine and server at Gallop Asian Bistro in Bridgewater, said she received the offensive note on a November 13 receipt. "I'm sorry but I cannot tip because I don't agree with your lifestyle and how you live your life, the message read.

NBCNewYork.com reports that the couple, who asked to remain anonymous, contacted the station after the story went viral and produced a receipt that was apparently printed at the same time, on the same date, for the same amount, except with an $18 tip.

The couple also produced document they claimed was a Visa bill, which indicated their card was charged for the meal plus the tip, for a total of $111.55, the station reported.

The couple told NBCNewYork.com they believe their receipt was used for a hoax. The husband said he didn't vote for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie because the governor opposes same-sex marriage.

"Never would a message like that come from us," he said.

I knew this was crap the moment I saw the story. One of my "liberal Friends" posted this on FB as if it was true and I cautioned them to be careful that is probably crap.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 08:23 AM (t3UFN)

105 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 08:15 AM (zF6Iw)

MPPP, welcome back!!!!!

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 26, 2013 08:24 AM (Nk6GS)

106 Anyone else getting trouble last couple of nights from the pbs.org servers? Might have been one of the video embeds that ace or a cob put in. I think the trouble started on Sunday.



Posted by: EC at November 26, 2013 08:25 AM (GQ8sn)

107 The couple told NBCNewYork.com they believe their receipt was used for a
hoax. The husband said he didn't vote for New Jersey Gov. Chris
Christie because the governor opposes same-sex marriage.


So, all parties involved are leftists. /shrugs

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 26, 2013 08:25 AM (e4elg)

108 Straight-bashing, the new normal.


Yes, it's all part of an agenda. Look at all the small mom and pop businesses that are owned by Christians who are now finding themselves being sued for discrimination. Photographers, bakeries, a Christian resort/B&B. Private businesses are being forced to do business with people that are living a lifestyle that they do not support. Yet people can openly express hatred of Christians and conservatives without any consequences. I just read a story on the Blaze yesterday about a Christian golfer who lost his sponsorship deal because he was a Christian who supported Ted Cruz and watched Glen Beck (something that came out during a lunch). Not only did he get canned, he was openly mocked for his beliefs.

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 08:26 AM (PLOz8)

109 ...Peace In Our Time...

揥e抮e testing diplomacy" -- B Hussein O

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 08:26 AM (MhA4j)

110 I warned people about this story from day one. It seemed to fit the pattern of all the other hoax receipt stories.

Could the family should sue for defamation of character?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at November 26, 2013 08:27 AM (3m9Uc)

111 remember the lesbians that painted their garage with homophobic slurs?

remember the ghey guy who painted with homophobic slurs on himself then committed suicide by hanging?

seems the only ones who care about anyone being ghey......are the gheys themselves.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 26, 2013 08:28 AM (8JJ6O)

112 The use of the word breeder is a sign of bigotry.

Posted by: Earl Turner at November 26, 2013 08:29 AM (VrVBw)

113 92. Ah.

Once Upon A Time In The West (196
http://tinyurl.com/2sag7q

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 08:30 AM (MhA4j)

114 Miller and McCloskey: The Next ObamaCare MirageThe new line is that the health-care law will save money. That's also not true.


Question: how is this a "new" line? This was one of the alleged selling points of the law back in the day.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 26, 2013 08:31 AM (4df7R)

115 The FBI is now partnering with the Lefty Southern Poverty Law Center for tracking hate crime data. Or "hate crime" data since SPLC has a funny definition of hate.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ms8j68p

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:31 AM (JRmiD)

116 Good Morning everyone,
I have to hurry to get to work.

I just wanted to wish you all a good morning. I like it better when I wake up early and can post here but I don抰 have time this morning.

I hope everyone has a good day.

Carol

Posted by: Carol at November 26, 2013 08:31 AM (z4WKX)

117 101 Ooh, another busy day for Obama that starts before 10:00am....fundraising, of course:

9:00 am || Attends a DNC fundraiser; private residence, Los Angeles
10:50 am || Tours DreamWorks Animation; Glendale, Calif.
11:10 am || Meets with film industry representatives; DreamWorks Studios, Glendale, Calif.
12:15 pm || Delivers remarks; DreamWorks Studios, Glendale, Calif.
1:40 pm || Departs Los Angeles
9:20 pm ET || Arrives White House

I guess the only thing that gets O out of bed early is money.


Remember, 9 am pst is already noon for obama.

Posted by: Fran鏾is Villon at November 26, 2013 08:32 AM (kkbgQ)

118 I knew this was crap the moment I saw the story. One of my "liberal Friends" posted this on FB as if it was true and I cautioned them to be careful that is probably crap.



We've learned from Tawana Brawley, Matthew Shepherd, the noose tying Black, female professor, the Jena 6, various assorted gays, lesbians and blacks and so forth, that most of these stories where a protected class has supposedly been the victim of some heinous hate crime have been false. The left will lie to advance it's agenda and make martyrs of people who were never victims to begin with.

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 08:32 AM (PLOz8)

119 Yeah, because Bridgewater in NJ which is one of the bluest states in the country is a hotbed of anti gay sentiment. LOL. Figures it was a attention gambit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:32 AM (23Kgq)

120 And if the waitress made it up she deserves to be fired.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:33 AM (23Kgq)

121 Good morning, Carol, have a great day!

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 08:33 AM (PLOz8)

122 Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 08:32 AM (PLOz

Man if I could get donations every time someone said something derogatory towards me I'd be rich as hell.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 08:34 AM (GaqMa)

123 Yeah, there was a lesbian couple here in CO that had hateful remarks spraypainted on their garage a year or so ago. Turns out one of the ladies did it for attention or something.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:35 AM (JRmiD)

124 The use of the word breeder is a sign of bigotry.

By a group of people who want to have their same-sex 'marriages' made legitimate and have babies of their own through expensive medical procedures that are probably fully funded by ObamaCare. *head thump*

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 08:35 AM (1H61p)

125 103 I read that. I bet she voted for Obama and is a LIV.

I have a better plate for her in mind, they should replace it with this 1:

STU-P1D
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean


ID10-T



DUMBAZZ

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 08:36 AM (PLOz8)

126 >>Remember, 9 am pst is already noon for Obama.

Good point. Must get his beauty sleep!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:37 AM (JRmiD)

127 By the way, when I said my insurance was not great to begin with, I meant that the insurance COMPANY was not great to begin with. The people I death with are not the sharpest tools in the shed, but the policy is (was) good.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 26, 2013 07:19 AM (olDqf)

****

Damn IPAB!

Posted by: The Crocodile Sorcerer at November 26, 2013 08:37 AM (N/Sup)

128 Where is the link to the Williamson piece on NR? I just see the link to the lefty site.

Posted by: EC at November 26, 2013 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)

129 115. Lizzy.

"now" timeline?

I'd be surprised by findings that the authoritarian subsidiary SPLC doesn't receive lots o' tax fund grants and tlc exemptions from the IRS, not to mention exemptions granted by the DHS and Dept./Justice from investigations for sponsoring and conducting all sorts of fraud and abuses.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 08:38 AM (MhA4j)

130 Remember the gay woman who claimed she was attacked, had slurs carved in her flesh and her house set on fire? She did it. They only gave her a week in jail for lying. Then again, I hope she had court ordered psych treatment.

Posted by: Fran鏾is Villon at November 26, 2013 08:38 AM (kkbgQ)

131 Williamson runs a bit loose with the truth. If neither Ike nor Clinton can be credited with balanced budgets, then Barack Obama can't be pilloried for the current deficit. You can't have it both ways.

The fact is, the president and the congress are supposed to work together to write and approve a Budget - something that hasn't been done in any of Obama's years. Why? Because he doesn't WANT a budget. A budget wouldn't allow King Obama to rule by decree.

Clinton was horrible in a lot of ways, and he's a liar's liar, but compared to Obama he is a Churchillian Statesman. And Ike? Ike is arguably one of the five greatest president this nation has ever had. You'd better believe that Ike balanced the budget - because there WAS a budget, and he got Congress to agree with him.

that's called Leadership. I mention this because we haven't seen it in something like 10 or 20 years now...

Posted by: RobM1981 at November 26, 2013 08:39 AM (lV1tZ)

132 Posted by: EC at November 26, 2013 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)

It's the first reply at the site itself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:39 AM (23Kgq)

133 128. EC

that's just dumb to pick a "lefty site" bone v. Williamson

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 08:39 AM (MhA4j)

134 Ace getting a hat tip on Tepid Air in regards to T-Giving Talking Points when your lame assed relative brings up 404Care.


http://tinyurl.com/kfxtafr

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 08:40 AM (cUARf)

135 I sure enjoyed Kevin Williamson's smackdown linked above. His closing was the best.

Thanks for the link.

Has there ever been, in all my life, efforts made by political operatives and organizations, to prep the soldiers for a dinner-party campaign, to ready them to argue for the cause at the holiday table?

I cannot remember any. This is unreal.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 26, 2013 08:41 AM (tmFlQ)

136 (to the tune of Shimmy Shimmy Ko Ko Pop)

MommyDaddy look at me
MommyDaddy oooooo
MommyDaddy look at all
Naughty things I doooo

MommyDaddy I insist
Accept me as I aaaam
MommyDaddy disapprove?
I don't give a daaamn...

Posted by: mindful webworker - don't need no stinkin' attention at November 26, 2013 08:41 AM (1zmtP)

137 Thomas Sowell has one of his random thoughts columns today. Here's a good one:
"Those who want to "spread the wealth" almost invariably seek to
concentrate the power. It happens too often, and in too many different
countries around the world, to be a coincidence. Which is more
dangerous, inequalities of wealth or concentrations of power?"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:42 AM (JRmiD)

138 Yeah, there was a lesbian couple here in CO that had hateful remarks spraypainted on their garage a year or so ago. Turns out one of the ladies did it for attention or something.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:35 AM (JRmiD)

Every time stories like these come out. it hurts the gay rights movement. They should figure out that by living normal lives, people will eventually not care any more, and things will change. Apparently, that's just too hard a concept to comprehend.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 26, 2013 08:42 AM (uzmcT)

139 Hey - can someone here write us our answers for those 10 questions? You know, elevator story length answers. Thanks

Posted by: Janetoo at November 26, 2013 08:43 AM (PROOX)

140 Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey 1m

More like an Ewok, but maybe that's just me. RT @IngrahamAngle: Doesn't a blurry Isis look like #Chewbacca? pic.twitter.com/7twRdJQSOj


Hey ace, Eddie boy is calling you names...
NRO twitter

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 08:44 AM (MhA4j)

141 Wait - Gabe was actually using the word "breeder?"

It's always interesting when the mask slips.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 08:44 AM (zF6Iw)

142 It's the first reply at the site itself.



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:39 AM (23Kgq)


For some reason, my browser blocks comments using Disqus or certain other comment software.
Link?

Posted by: EC at November 26, 2013 08:44 AM (GQ8sn)

143 Man if I could get donations every time someone said something derogatory towards me I'd be rich as hell.



Yup, me too. I was bullied for being Asian growing up in White suburbia. (Though not as badly as my older sister). Comments like "Remember Pearl Harbor!" And the obligatory "Chinese, Japanese, Dirty knees...", squinty eyes etc. My parents didn't sue anyone or go marching up to the school,. They expected us ignore it and just to deal with it. Although, my dad did suggest we say "Remember Nagasaki and Hiroshima!" when taunted about Pearl Harbor.) I made it just fine. Some of the most racist comments I encountered were directed at me by little, kids at the inner city mission my parents volunteered weekly. (The Helping Hand Mission in Philly). We went every Sunday for 8 years.

Posted by: runningrn at November 26, 2013 08:46 AM (PLOz8)

144 My Thanksgiving prayer is that more and more progressives learn that it is a lot harder "being a man" than it is "sticking it to the man", and grow up.

Posted by: The Crocodile Sorcerer at November 26, 2013 08:46 AM (N/Sup)

145 There was the woman college prof who painted anti black slurs on her car and then drove it to some anti racist campus rally. She told the police that she had parked her car and when she came back, her car had been vandalized with the slurs. However, several black students testified that they saw her drive into the parking lot with her car that way.

Posted by: Fran鏾is Villon at November 26, 2013 08:46 AM (kkbgQ)

146 >>For some reason, my browser blocks comments using Disqus or certain other comment software.
Link?

Comment 36. Scroll up.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 08:46 AM (g1DWB)

147 1979 Tehran embassy hostages react to West's deal with Iran
'I never found an Iranian leader I can trust,' retired CIA officer says. Wife: We are probably not very Christian-like when it comes to all this
AP
Published: 11.26.13, 12:51 / Israel News


A nuclear deal between the US, Iran and other world powers has been described as a trust-building step after decades of animosity that hopefully will lead to a more comprehensive deal down the road.

But for many of the 66 Americans who were held hostage for 444 days at the start of the Iranian revolution, trusting the regime in Tehran feels like a mistake.



"It's kind of like Jimmy Carter all over again," said Clair Cortland Barnes, now retired after a career at the CIA and elsewhere. He sees the negotiations now as no more effective than they were in 1979 and 1980, when he and others languished, facing mock executions and other torments. The hostage crisis began in November of 1979 when militants stormed the United States Embassy in Tehran and seized its occupants.

Funny that I have to read this in an Israeli Newspaper and not the NY Times?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 08:47 AM (t3UFN)

148 And really your cause no favors when you engage in this kind of histrionics, Apparently the family supported gay marriage and they got branded as hateful anyway because the woman was an attention seeker. What might happen is the family might be slightly less in favor of gay marriage now because of the objectionable actions of this woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:47 AM (23Kgq)

149 Sock off

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 26, 2013 08:47 AM (N/Sup)

150 Yay me- a few days off work and to the mountains for Thanksgiving with three of our young uns and their families. Grandkids totally rock! Missus M. gets her postcard family holiday including snow-tipped pine trees and crackling fireplace. I get to clear two feet of snow off the 200 yard long driveway! Yay me?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 26, 2013 08:50 AM (N/Sup)

151 Mornin' all. I couldn't help but hear a clip on the radio this morning of Obama talking to the heckler. Obama said something like "What you need to know when I'm talking....as the president of the United States...." So, basically, he thinks we should sit down and shut up because he's president and he's talking. I'm all for respecting the office, but good god, the condescension in that statement is infuriating.

Posted by: Mainah at November 26, 2013 08:51 AM (659DL)

152 Last time I checked, "cultural appropriation" is not only not illegal nor immoral, it's been going on for millenia.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 26, 2013 08:51 AM (V70Uh)

153 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 26, 2013 08:44 AM (zF6Iw)

I don't recall that, but I was cutting the grass so I was only half paying attention.

In any case, at the risk of courting the banning: Gabe often seems to be the one issue type person around here.
I'm generally fine with one issue people, a few of them in the mix help keep us focused. Except Gabe's one issue is a) personal (which is always dangerous when something gets to close to home and b) arguably not really conservative.

Frankly, I'm not sure what it is, socially liberal? Maybe Libertarian? But it doesn't advance the cause IMHO, at best it moves it sideways. So in this case "One issue" people are utterly unhelpful.

That and I remember a podcast where Gabe went "Well I was just talking to someone from State..." in that attempting a casual namedrop type thing.
The DC machine has eaten him, he's doing what all DC people do, casually dropping their connections as if it matters. Once the machine gets you, it's over, you're done, it'll chew you up and spit you out as something utterly not conservative.

Part of the reason the wife and I decided to turn down any offers for her to move to DC. It'd be a good career move (and there'd be more work there for me) but we don't want to become that. (Plus the schools suck, the cost of living is remarkably high, but mostly that first part.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 08:52 AM (GaqMa)

154 EC-Here is a link to the Forward Progressives site where the reply was:

http://tinyurl.com/kac6e6g

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2013 08:52 AM (23Kgq)

155 Apparently Holder hasn't rooted out the remaining patriots at the DOJ...

The NRA got their hands on this:

http://tinyurl.com/ogjnkjr

Should make for some interesting ads in 2014.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 26, 2013 08:52 AM (lJaja)

156 Iranian missile technicians secretly visited North Korea as part of joint development of a new rocket booster for long-range missiles or space launchers at the same time nuclear talks took place in Geneva, according to U.S. officials.

Several groups of technicians from the Shahid Hemmat Industrial Group (SHIG), a unit in charge of building Iran抯 liquid-fueled missiles, traveled to Pyongyang during the past several month, including as recently as late October, to work on the new, 80-ton rocket booster being developed by the North Koreans, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports.

The booster is believed by U.S. intelligence agencies to be intended for a new long-range missile or space launch vehicle that could be used to carry nuclear warheads, and could be exported to Iran in the future.

Recent U.S. intelligence assessments have said that both North Korea and Iran are expected to have missiles capable of hitting the United States with a nuclear warhead in the next two years.

The Iranian cooperation reveals that the nuclear framework agreement concluded Sunday in Geneva has not slowed Tehran抯 drive for missiles that can deliver a nuclear warhead to intercontinental range.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 08:53 AM (t3UFN)

157 Yay me- a few days off work and to the mountains for Thanksgiving with three of our young uns and their families. Grandkids totally rock! Missus M. gets her postcard family holiday including snow-tipped pine trees and crackling fireplace. I get to clear two feet of snow off the 200 yard long driveway! Yay me?


Yay you! Heart attack in the making!
Seriously, be careful, but enjoy!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 08:53 AM (cUARf)

158 What might happen is the family might be slightly less in favor of gay marriage now because of the objectionable actions of this woman.

I know I'd never eat in that restaurant. I imagine a lot of people would stay far away from an establishment that played games with receipts. So the owner, who overlooked the dykey looking appearance and provided the waitress employment will suffer. Probably have to lay off staff, due to declining business, but not the lesbian because she's probably legally protected.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 08:53 AM (1H61p)

159 Posted by: Mainah at November 26, 2013 08:51 AM (659DL)

As I pointed out on twitter yesterday: Ever notice all these hecklers are on liberal issues and give Obama another chance to bash congress?

In all of California not one person lost their insurance and felt the need to heckle Obama at a rally?
But randomly an immigration proponent did? The astroturf is unconvincing (but the LIVs will eat it up)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 08:54 AM (GaqMa)

160 Jay Leno poked fun at the Iran deal Monday saying that President Obama made an Obamacare like promise to the Iranians, 搃f you like your uranium, you can keep your uranium.

The full exchange is available below:

JAY LENO: Well, apparently what got the Iranians to sign this deal was the promise from President Obama. He told the Iranians, if you like your uranium, you can keep your uranium. So, I don抰 know. Well, President Obama抯 approval rating is now down at the lowest point of his presidency. It抯 down to 37%. In fact, here抯 how bad it抯 gotten. You know the Thanksgiving turkey he抯 pardoning this week? The turkey said, no pictures. I don抰 want pictures. [ laughter ]

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2013 08:54 AM (t3UFN)

161 But randomly an immigration proponent did? The astroturf is unconvincing (but the LIVs will eat it up)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 08:54 AM (GaqMa)

Good point. And it gives him an opportunity to say he can't do something publicly, while he's doing that very thing privately through executive orders. LIVs won't hear/care about that, they'll take what he says in public at face value.

Posted by: Mainah at November 26, 2013 08:57 AM (659DL)

162 All these nuts sent her money. She says she will donate it all to charity but I bet she keeps it.

Posted by: Fran鏾is Villon at November 26, 2013 08:57 AM (kkbgQ)

163 Mornin' all. I couldn't help but hear a clip on the
radio this morning of Obama talking to the heckler. Obama said
something like "What you need to know when I'm talking....as the
president of the United States...." So, basically, he thinks we should
sit down and shut up because he's president and he's talking. I'm all
for respecting the office, but good god, the condescension in that
statement is infuriating.

Posted by: Mainah at November 26, 2013 08:51 AM (659DL)



The insecure prick always mentions that he's prezzy. He's not qualified to be a high school class president

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2013 08:58 AM (1Jaio)

164 400 miles ahead of me today, right into the teeth of the storm. Luckily I have two podcasts to listen to, so the drive will be quick.

Posted by: MTF at November 26, 2013 08:58 AM (F58x4)

165 Never in a million years would you see this story in reverse.


"by their fruits you shall know them"



Posted by: Typo Dynamofo at November 26, 2013 08:58 AM (FtCW+)

166 Posted by: Mainah at November 26, 2013 08:57 AM (659DL)

Yeah, I thought about that too, the heckler said "stop the illegal deportations." (I think? I only skimmed the article)

If that's right a) they aren't illegal deportations they are in fact, quite legal
and
b) Obama has pretty much halted them.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at November 26, 2013 08:59 AM (GaqMa)

167 Yeah, no matter what I still can't see ANY comments on that site for some reason. I will look at it when I get home.


Posted by: EC at November 26, 2013 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)

168 400 miles ahead of me today, right into the teeth of the storm. Luckily I have two podcasts to listen to, so the drive will be quick.


Posted by: MTF at November 26, 2013 08:58 AM (F58x4)


ProTip: Keep the shiny side up and out of the ditches. Good Luck!

Posted by: Cold Count de Monet at November 26, 2013 09:03 AM (BAS5M)

169 The most infuriating thing about the Obama heckler isn't whether or not he is a plant but that he is in fact an illegal alien. Think how far this country has fallen, we now have law breakers featured on national TV heckling the President of the United States and the first reaction of the msm is that Obama needs to implement amnesty and not that this little shit needs to be deported.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2013 09:03 AM (g1DWB)

170 Ooh, another busy day for Obama that starts before 10:00am....fundraising, of course:

9:00 am || Attends a DNC fundraiser; private residence, Los Angeles
10:50 am || Tours DreamWorks Animation; Glendale, Calif.
11:10 am || Meets with film industry representatives; DreamWorks Studios, Glendale, Calif.
12:15 pm || Delivers remarks; DreamWorks Studios, Glendale, Calif.
1:40 pm || Departs Los Angeles
9:20 pm ET || Arrives White House

I guess the only thing that gets O out of bed early is money.


Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2013 08:20 AM (JRmiD)




But he was too busy for the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address. Not that I would want him disgracing the event with his presence

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2013 09:04 AM (1Jaio)

171 I wonder what would happen if a year or two ago, say...an Israeli citizen stood up at a rally and heckled Ahmadenijad claiming a right to open borders and Iranian citizenship.

Could someone find two capital Ls and a capital O? Maybe from the Hollywood sign would do.

Posted by: akula51 at November 26, 2013 09:06 AM (Q+cZ7)

172 New thread.

Posted by: Recovering Businessperson at November 26, 2013 09:08 AM (1H61p)

173 Dump up!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2013 09:12 AM (cUARf)

174

From sidebar story
Possible hate crime wearing gear from other cultures ?? Seriously??

So if I visit the US mainland and wear one of those cowboy hats I'm hating you guys!

Or put on a lei in Hawaii? Obviously I hate Hawaiian residents

Ridiculous stuff!

Anyway best wishes for Thanksgiving holidays and don't forget to promote Obamacare while you're dishing out the dinner - surely there aren't people silly enough to spoil family get togethers with that BS?





Posted by: aussie at November 26, 2013 09:12 AM (uTxTC)

175 Morning all. Wayyy too cold here in south Texas. Damn you Yankees for sending the cold front this far south!

Have to say I have been lurking but not posting because I am so discouraged. Hubby wants me to maintain at least a facade of optimism.

Posted by: SAT Rose at November 26, 2013 09:23 AM (TRCPu)

176 The most infuriating thing about the Obama heckler isn't whether or not he is a plant but that he is in fact an illegal alien.

Are we supposed to believe an un-documented person was allowed in the same room as the president? I thought I.D. was needed to be in the same room?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at November 26, 2013 09:24 AM (3m9Uc)

177 'Breeder' - The holiest of human social activity - creating and shepherding to adulthood fellow members of God's earthly family - is reduced to its crudest animal component.

Despite that, the term could be employed in either friendly or hostile fashion, ugly though it is, no worse than calling our beloved offspring 'rugrats' when they're troublesome. Used light-heartedly by an aunt or uncle who is a dead-ender (what you are if you don't breed, regardless of your persuasions (yes, I just made that up - I think)). Childlessness is an unhappy consequence of some life choices, and unchosen forces, and breeding has its devastating consequences as well, for everyone including the little muggers we ruin, so, all differences being part of the human condition, we can make light of them.

However, having been employed so frequently with such derogatory venom, in the midst of outright cultural warfare upon het pair bonded family unity, the humor is pretty much drained away from this one, to which anyone thinking to use the term ought be sensitive. And you know such folks want to be sensitive.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sticks and stones hurt, maan! at November 26, 2013 09:26 AM (yFFC0)

178 Only one problem with the story. The family has the original receipt and the credit card bill which shows they gave a tip. There was no writing on their copy of the receipt.

They had the statement from the credit card company showing the card had been charged the meal price plus tip, matching what they had on their copy of the receipt.

Managers have to enter the amount of the tip written in the tip line, and reconcile it on their computer screen in the POS system. That is evident from the computerized receipt. That's how the server gets paid the tip. Since management entered in the tip and it was charged, it's obvious that the receipt is a copy printed afterward. Management is digging a hole if they protect this server, and leaving themselves open to a lawsuit, since they said they have NO idea how that tip got on there.

The manager is probably the server's girlfriend.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 26, 2013 09:33 AM (i2Lsf)

179 Why not make this a nationwide Stiff-A-Gay-Waiter's-Tip Thanksgiving, just to even out all the horseshit you'll have to hear at your relatives' houses? Squawk all you like, there's still no law against not leaving a tip. They want this? Give it to them. The embarrassing part is having to ask each and every restaurant staffer about sexual proclivities, but hey, Moron. And, Big Winter Holiday. Nothing new.

Every gay waitperson is self-stiffed anyway, because Really Want To Direct.

And greetings from the frosty, raggedy-ass Front Range, which, when the clouds come down to the ground so's you can't see the mountain, is a lot like Ohio.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 26, 2013 09:40 AM (tA5Up)

180 "Progressives love science right up until the second they don抰."

"Qi Bono?"
Obamacare and the New Age quacks
By Kevin D. Williamson
NRO, November 26, 2013 4:00 AM

=

Williamson touched on a lot of hot buttons and loosely stitched them together without tying any knots.

As for medical practitioners, investing the federal government with the legislated power to determine your choice because you're just too stupid to go figure, it's the entire premise of MANDATE that must be rescinded.

I knew a mother who became a convert of her cure-all chiropractor. But not every chiropractor is a quack claiming the ability to cure your every ailment. Just as every American isn't the same as she and her husband, a Raytheon engineer with good benefits and a comfortable income. They were expecting to get professional two-for-one price, cheap skates. She could just as well have gone to a DO for her MD/Chiropractic all-in-one stop, and done her children the best service they could have afforded when they had viral and bacterial infections.

Scientism presents theory as fact, and disregards whatever scientific research findings and evidence that do not support the politically correct favored theory. Evolution happens as a natural course of events, but exactly how can not be presumed as "fact" so long as missing links are such.

I participated in a precinct platform meeting, and read the party platform and campaign literature from the TX political parties and candidates running for state education office.

Granted, given Williamson's case in point, the Texas Republican Party is hell bent on revving up the groundswell that Biblical metaphor must counter balance the lengths taken with (he never said) Darwinian "scientism".

...IF the TX Republican groundswell were to approach "science" and "history" with that premise, non-fundamentalists of every ideology would likely support the Classical Liberal provision of varying perspectives, freedom of thought, from which each student should research independently to realize his/her own view on matters.

But school class time is limited. And public education hardly has "researching information" as the purpose while babysitting and indoctrinating students. And at this point, even were validating research the case, students/parents would not embrace the ideals of learning. Today's typical American, regardless of economic strata, does not want to deal with their children's educations after long hours at work, and trying to deal with making dinner at home. And then there are the brainfarts who can't see past the profit; if knowledge doesn't provide an immediate profit, ax it.

Leaving education to the politicians is exactly staying stuck on stupid.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 09:42 AM (MhA4j)

181 Evolution happens as a natural course of events, but exactly how can not be presumed as "fact" so long as missing links are such.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 26, 2013 09:42 AM (MhA4j)


???

Posted by: eman at November 26, 2013 10:41 AM (AO9UG)

182 Test:
Qamp;A

Posted by: Parker at November 26, 2013 12:06 PM (YkW3i)






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