Jonah Goldberg: GOP Should Begin Sending Individual Market Health Care Policy Holders Electioneering Materials

Via Dave at Garfield Ridge, yes, with one big proviso, which I'll mention later.

We now know that millions of people will lose their existing health-insurance policies thanks to Obamacare. Already hundreds of thousands of people have gotten letters from their insurance companies letting them know they’ll lose their coverage. Millions more are bound to get similar letters, particularly when the small-business mandate kicks in. They should also get another letter, however. And that letter should come from the GOP, either from Reince Priebus or, better, from their local GOP representative, senator, governor or whichever local politician makes the most sense. And that letter should, without stridency, hyperbole or annoying appeals for money, explain to them that this is exactly what Obamacare was designed to do and precisely what Republicans predicted would happen. If I was writing it, I would say something like, “The president vowed to you on numerous occasions (see attached document) that you could keep your insurance and that you would save money under the Affordable Care Act. This was untrue. Whether it was a well-intentioned mistake or a more deliberate deception, what the president and his party told you was flatly untrue, and we said so at the time.”

Of course.

My one caveat is that getting this kind of a letter on the heels of having your insurance cancelled would be creepy and alarming.

The letters would have to be transparent upfront about how the GOP came to learn they were likely individual policy-holders. Perhaps it's just as simple as sending out letters to all of Kaiser Permanente's customers (if that information is public).

If ObamaCare itself makes this public, so much the better: then introduce the letter by saying ObamaCare makes your personal health insurance information public, and we think that's a bad thing, but that said, here's our pitch as to the rest of it.

Government is an organized system for shifting the wealth of tribes not in the majority coalition to tribes in the majority coalition. The only thing I can say in defense of this aspect of government is that it is slightly better than outright brigandry and tribal warfare.

Obama is shifting a lot of wealth from less-favored tribes to more-favored tribes. If he is permitted to only gain the benefit of this exchange (that is, the gratitude of the tribes getting someone else's loot) he wins completely.

This sort of thing can only be checked (as a political matter) by enlisting those who are being looted from into a political opposition.

I can only say this so many times: The conservative party must find a way to better discuss these things, a more appealing way. They cannot just talk about taxes, abstractly; they have to talk about what taxes actually are.

They have to talk about what money really is: Money is a barter-chit of convenience which represents a certain number of minutes or hours of your labor. Every unit of money actually represents the duration of time -- time you could have spent lying around an doing nothing -- that you used in order to earn that money.

Saying "It's just money" is the practical equivalent of saying "it's just time, time I might spend with my family, or pursuing a hobby, or relaxing." Each dollar represents a quantum of such time.

And each exertion of government to tax a citizen for the benefit of another steals a quantum of time from one citizen to deliver it to another.

Money is not "just money." Money is your daughter's braces. Or it's the difference between metal braces that your daughter will hate and invisible-line ones she won't mind quite so much.

Money is that personal workshop you've wanted to build your whole life but never could.

Money is two weeks on vacation with your family, not just at home -- not just a staycation -- but a genuine real vacation.

Money is also charity -- charity that you decide to bequeath to.

The GOP needs to find a way to discuss "money" and "taxes" in more concrete ways, in ways which are more tangible and vital, and not let the progressive party keep on saying "it's only money" as they take more and more of one man's labor -- more and more years of one man's life -- to aid another.

BTW: I keep discussing this in the podcast. I think twice in the last three weeks I've said this sort of thing. I discussed it longer in the last one, with Ben Domenech.

I don't want to endorse Rand's idea that selfishness is virtue so much as I want to push back against this childish idea that forcibly extracting money from one man to give to another is virtuous.

There are costs involved here. Politics used to be all about costs -- real world adult stuff like "Who's paying?" and "Who Loses?"

We are now living in a Sesame Street world in which it has been decided that it is too ugly, uncomfortable, and uncouth to even discuss such things. All we talk about about now the Cash and Prizes being won by some government clients in the Great Government Game Show.

But we, as a culture, do not seriously discuss the things that serious adults have talked about for the previous 200 years of this countries' existence -- that there are costs to all of these things.

People like to conceive of themselves as generous to a fault, practically heroic in their desire to sacrifice for others. In fact they are not, and only wish to gesture towards sacrifice. They want the actual sacrifice borne by others. They just want the moral credit of having spoken up in favor of the proposition that somebody somewhere should sacrifice.

We have a very infantilized, retarded political discourse at the moment. We discuss serious matters of math -- boring, sterile, unforgiving math -- as children might, where all that matters is intention and good feeling.

How we go about changing society to the point where it once again begins discussing adult matters as adults, I don't know. But we must think about this, and attempt to re-educate an increasingly uneducated (or deliberately mis-educated) population about Simple Matters, like the basic idea that Stuff Costs Money and Money Isn't Free.


Posted by: Ace at 03:47 PM



Comments

1 And seal it with a kiss

Posted by: FadeToBolivia at October 28, 2013 03:49 PM (YLWpc)

2 What should concern us most is the difference between what the GOP *should* do and what they *actually* do.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 28, 2013 03:50 PM (GrtrJ)

3
Hi, I'm Rinsed Prius, AKA Mr. Creepy, and I heard...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 28, 2013 03:50 PM (IoF3t)

4 THE GOP should send mailbombs to all the welfare recipients who are now being added to Medicare.

I'd donate.

Posted by: Obamacare is an abortion at October 28, 2013 03:50 PM (ZMzpb)

5 Can the insurers not sell marketing lists? I know a bit about HIPAA but not so much about that area. Given how much marketing material I get on a daily basis I have to assuming names and addresses are sellable under some loophole. (Even though they're technically PHI.)

Of course another option is to buy the lists off employers who cancel coverage (I'm sure they'd sell, I know for a fact a university sold my sister's info, because it contained a typo only they had )

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 28, 2013 03:52 PM (a8eFL)

6
They should keep quiet and let the other party commit suicide unimpeded.

Posted by: Roy at October 28, 2013 03:52 PM (VndSC)

7 Time to use the Dem playbook.

Posted by: Crashpanic at October 28, 2013 03:52 PM (jWakl)

8 Money is a barter-chit of convenience which represents a certain number of minutes or hours of your labor.

exactly correct!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:53 PM (qVKcL)

9
My one caveat is that getting this kind of a letter on the heels of having your insurance cancelled would be creepy and alarming.
The letters would have to be transparent upfront about how the GOP came to learn they were likely individual policy-holders. Perhaps it's just as simple as sending out letters to all of Kaiser Permanente's customers (if that information is public).


Yeah, I'd be more than a little freaked out to have my insurance cancelled and then have someone send me a letter soon after saying, "So, we hear your insurance was cancelled."

Talk about invasion of privacy! "Where'd you get my address? How do you know who I am!? How do you know what insurance I had!???"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 03:54 PM (4df7R)

10 What should concern us most is the difference between what the GOP *should* do and what they *actually* do.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 28, 2013 03:50 PM (GrtrJ)

Yep. Thats why when our house RINOs do a victory lap about how they were right and we should not have shut the gov down and just let the ACA fail, we look at them and OK, now what. Then you get to watch primates fornicating sporting goods.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 03:54 PM (XIxXP)

11 my God its full of edge!

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 03:54 PM (zOTsN)

12 I saw the The Barter Chits open for Split Enz in '82.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (qHEav)

13
They should keep quiet and let the other party commit suicide unimpeded.

Sorry, Sir. But I can't carry out that order.

Posted by: JOhn McCain at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (ZZtT1)

14 clearly, the GOP will decide its time to tackle comprehensive immigration reform!

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (zOTsN)

15 my God its full of edge!
Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 03:54 PM (zOTsN)


I just cut myself, it's so edgy!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (4df7R)

16 They have to talk about what money really is: Money is a barter-chit of convenience which represents a certain number of minutes or hours of your labor.
Every unit of money actually represents the duration of time -- time
you could have spent lying around an doing nothing -- that you used in
order to earn that money.

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This is exactly how I deal with the concept of money, and have taught my children to do the same. How many hours would you have to work to get that (pair of jeans) (DVD player) (spring break trip) ? Is it worth your work-hours to trade it for that? If so, fine. If not, re-evaluate your need for that item.

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (P6QsQ)

17 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 03:54 PM (4df7R)

We could avoid that by blanketing areas of high rates of cancellation and just saying "Insurance cancellation is high in this area, if yours personally wasn't canceled you likely know someone whose was."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (a8eFL)

18 the GOP should do a commercial which starts with a teenage girl crying because she has jacked teeth and can't get braces and finish with a welfare fiend buying packages of rib-eyes and cartons of cigarettes

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (qVKcL)

19
In a widely applauded countermove, the Dimbulbs will send out letters to True Believers in which they implore them to clap, long and loud, and BELIEVE, in order to revive the wispy and wan fairy known as ObamaCareBelle...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (IoF3t)

20 I don't know about the strategy. 'They say' and I'm not sure who 'they' are -- that you should not approach a dog that has been hit by a car, because in a knee jerk reaction it will strike out at anyone and anything because it's tiny brain can not fathom the events that are causing it such pain.

Low information voters in this case = struck by bus they didn't see.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 28, 2013 03:57 PM (U2UQk)

21 We could avoid that by blanketing areas of high rates of cancellation and just saying "Insurance cancellation is high in this area, if yours personally wasn't canceled you likely know someone whose was."
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (a8eFL)


That would work much better. *nod*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 03:57 PM (4df7R)

22 Part of the problem is that the people being screwed -- middle class whites -- are prohibited by the ruling class from noting this fact and objecting to it.

Anyone who says -- Hey, this seems like a deliberate attempt to confiscate wealth from suburban, middle class white people and give it to poorer blacks and hispanics -- will be called a racist for even noticing that fact.

One suggestion for diluting this is pointing out the asians are also being targeted here.

Given this and affirmative action, how badly can Democrats keep screwing over asians and still win 70% of the asian vote?

Answer: For as long as asians keep believing that Republicans hate anyone who isn't white and Christian.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 03:57 PM (ZPrif)

23 the GOP should do a commercial which starts with a teenage girl crying because she has jacked teeth and can't get braces and finish with a welfare fiend buying packages of rib-eyes and cartons of cigarettes
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (qVKcL)


Now see, that's a tangible plan, an idea.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 03:57 PM (XIxXP)

24 speaking of braces, ncs gets hers next week
we have Kaiser and delta but not sure which one is paying, I should ask the wife how much its costing us

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:58 PM (qVKcL)

25
The GOP is lame. Their policies are often lame, and their messaging is usually worse. For3 years they have known this was coming and have yet to offer effective solutionsor alternatives to the ACA. Healthcare costsare out of control, and there are market based solutions to address that. Yet, the GOPhas not cut through the media bias to show the people that there is a viable alternative to Obamacare.

Plus, they will continue to grow governmentand intrude on our liberties. So I'm pretty much sick of the lessor of two evils crap. No money, no support, no craps given for the GOP.

Posted by: california red at October 28, 2013 03:58 PM (7jrCM)

26 well the most important thing for the leadership to do at such a moment, is to unrelentingly criticize Ted Cruz and point out how insane and extremem half the "party" is

you know,

point out the divisions

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 03:58 PM (zOTsN)

27 the GOP should do a commercial which starts with a
teenage girl crying because she has jacked teeth and can't get braces
and finish with a welfare fiend buying packages of rib-eyes and cartons
of cigarettes

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:56 PM (qVKcL)



"Brat, how would you like to be on national tv?"


"REALLY?!?!?!"

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 03:58 PM (GQ8sn)

28 The letters would have to be transparent upfront about how the GOP came to learn they were likely individual policy-holders. Perhaps it's just as simple as sending out letters to all of Kaiser Permanente's customers

Why not just a bland "Has your insurance been cancelled recently? If so please tell us your story here ... " ? And the GOP wouldn't have solely target the canceled premium holders. Hit a broader swath and might have greater impact.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2013 03:58 PM (xz0nG)

29 Sure we would like the GOP tribe to be doing these things, but we are just the dhimmi of the GOP.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (epxV4)

30 speaking of braces, ncs gets hers next week
we have Kaiser and delta but not sure which one is paying, I should ask the wife how much its costing us
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:58 PM (qVKcL)

You don't want to know. We just put 8k into our oldest and the youngest is worse.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (XIxXP)

31 Ace is back,tanned,rested and ready!Okay,probably not tanned,as he shuns sunlight.Probably not really rested ,as he is an insomniac.Well,he is ready!!

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (zqvg6)

32 18 the GOP should do a commercial which starts with a teenage girl crying because she has jacked teeth and can't get braces and finish with a welfare fiend buying packages of rib-eyes and cartons of cigarettes



The welfare queen strategy did work for Reagan.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel who's life was saved by rock and roll at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (7ObY1)

33 the GOP should do a commercial which starts with a teenage girl crying because she has jacked teeth and can't get braces and finish with a welfare fiend buying packages of rib-eyes and cartons of cigarettes

Posted by: navycopjoe
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Now we are getting somewhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (aDwsi)

34 What a novel thought - doing something that could cause you to win. It's so crazy it just might work.

Posted by: 141Driver at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (/E3ql)

35 You don't want to know. We just put 8k into our oldest and the youngest is worse.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 03:59 PM (XIxXP)


We had to pay ours off on a 36 month plan.

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:00 PM (GQ8sn)

36 You totally have nailed my philosophy on the nature and value of money, specifically, the only thing it is good for: allowing you to spend your time as you wish.

Time is the only commodity you cannot buy more of. You can't trade for it, extend it, purchase more of it.

What you CAN do is spend it however you want. To do that, you need money. That's it. It's that simple.

Also, it always reminds me of this exchange from the movie Volunteers, which is definitely my favorite Tom Hanks vehicle:



Chung Mee: Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power.



Lawrence Bourne III: Yeah, well, before I commit any of that to memory, would there be anything in this for me?



Chung Mee: Speed is important in business. Time is money.



Lawrence Bourne III: You said opium was money.



Chung Mee: Money is Money.



Lawrence Bourne III: Well then, what is time again?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 28, 2013 04:00 PM (CJjw5)

37 For 3 years they have known this was coming and have yet to offer effective solutions or alternatives to the ACA. ...

Yet, the GOP has not cut through the media bias to show the people that there is a viable alternative to Obamacare.

Posted by: california red


Wrong on the first charge, correct on the 2nd.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2013 04:01 PM (xz0nG)

38 Consider the millions losing coverage and doctors thanks to O-Care combined with a portal that's impossible to use to obtain substitute coverage. Costs of the substitute aside, how many people will wake up on January 1 thinking they have coverage but don't, thanks to this clusterf****. What happens when they find out, at the doctor's office or hospital? Things will get ugly very, very quickly. If the Dems think they can destroy the medical system and throw millions under the bus and survive, they are delusional.

But, of course, we know that.

Posted by: RS at October 28, 2013 04:01 PM (YAGV/)

39 Low information voters in this case = struck by bus they didn't see.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 28, 2013 03:57 PM (U2UQk)


Yes and no. The difference is that a wounded animal will lash out at anyone who approaches because it can't tell the difference between someone trying to help it and something trying to take advantage of its weakened state and misfortune. It's a matter of survival. Since teh animal can't flee, it has to fight.

Humans, on the other hand,aren't seeking to protect themselves when they lash out after being wounded like this. Rather, they're seeking revenge. The smart money, IMO, is to be the one TELLING them who to blame, rather than being the group that hangs back as the other side doles OUT the blame.

"We recognize that your health insurance coverage has been upset and you are now on the hook for higher premiums and astronomical deductibles... Blah blah blah ...the Democrats' fault."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 04:01 PM (4df7R)

40 30 8 GRAND???!!!!
i'll just get some wire and vise grips at home depot....fix that grill straight up

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:01 PM (qVKcL)

41 I've added an update which I think is important.

It addresses Flatbush Joe's point, that the left has won the discourse to the point where it's not even socially acceptable to say "Wait, as the person actually paying for this, I object."

Posted by: ace at October 28, 2013 04:01 PM (JAJNR)

42 My one caveat is that getting this kind of a letter on the heels of
having your insurance cancelled would be creepy and alarming.


Screw the letters, people toss that shit away without even looking.

BILLBOARDS. Three declarative sentences or less. Let the fuckers drive by the reminder EVERY DAY

Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:02 PM (4tK7k)

43 The GOP needs to find a way to discuss "money" and "taxes" in more concrete ways, in ways which are more tangible and vital, and not let the progressive party keep on saying "it's only money" as they take more and more of one man's labor -- more and more years of one man's life -- to aid another.


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The only problem that I see with this is that almost half the country is getting government free shit. They don't have to spend any time for it. They get their never-ending holidays now. Why would they want to give that up, especially since the "haves" are so easily manipulated to give up their time and effort for the FSA.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2013 04:02 PM (XwUBy)

44
We had to pay ours off on a 36 month plan.
Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:00 PM (GQ8sn)


I look at my daughters mouth and see a fishing boat. Yeah, I do it for her without reservation but I have perfect teeth, it's my wife with those crooked teeth Genes. Wouldn't you know it, she turned that around on me too. She said, "If your genes weren't such wusses we wouldn't have these problems.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:02 PM (XIxXP)

45 Ya know, the GOP isn't really the bastion of integrity on 404Care seeing the way they left Cruz and Lee to twist in the wind and are busily seeking primary opponents for them (I'm lookin' at you, Orrin Hatch).

Posted by: RushBabe at October 28, 2013 04:02 PM (hrIP5)

46 Breaking news: federal judge in TX has just blocked the implementation of TX's new abortion restrictions law that was filibustered by Abortion Barbie, Wendy Davis. Suit was filed by Planned Parenthood. Thank another black robed tyrant.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2013 04:03 PM (XB5Ak)

47 Anyone who says -- Hey, this seems like a deliberate attempt to
confiscate wealth from suburban, middle class white people and give it
to poorer blacks and hispanics -- will be called a racist for even
noticing that fact.


It doesn't even seem like the confiscated wealth is being redistributed--the funds don't go to Medicaid, you're already paying for that with your payroll taxes, and the increased premiums don't go to the subsidies, you're already paying for them with your regular taxes. It's just being plain old confiscated and destroyed. Like all those drivable used cars that were destroyed in 2009, except this program will go on forever.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 28, 2013 04:03 PM (/kI1Q)

48 5 Ya know, the GOP isn't really the bastion of integrity on 404Care seeing the way they left Cruz and Lee to twist in the wind and are busily seeking primary opponents for them (I'm lookin' at you, Orrin Hatch).


Hatch? What about meeeeeee?


Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:03 PM (7ObY1)

49 here is what my money is to me

it sending money to mymother who doesn't have a penny

it pays for my kids private special education school, all on our dime,

and my other kids private religious school all on our dime

money can secure a future for my child with learning disabilities so he will never have to rely on the state and to ease the burden on his siblings after we are gone

money is two college tuitions coming up soon, one next year

money is being able to pay foran aidefor my MIL, who has had several mini strokes, since her long termcare insurance is about to runout
money is our retirement hopefully some day

we support a lot of people with money that otherwise would have to rely on the state

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:03 PM (zOTsN)

50 I look at my daughters mouth and see a fishing boat. Yeah, I do it for her without reservation but I have perfect teeth, it's my wife with those crooked teeth Genes. Wouldn't you know it, she turned that around on me too. She said, "If your genes weren't such wusses we wouldn't have these problems.



Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:02 PM (XIxXP)

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Tread carefully. She owns all the vagina in your relationship.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 28, 2013 04:04 PM (CJjw5)

51 It addresses Flatbush Joe's point, that the left has won the discourse
to the point where it's not even socially acceptable to say "Wait, as
the person actually paying for this, I object."



That's because the government keeps framing the taxes argument that says it wasn't our money to begin with. It's the government's, and they are letting us keep some of it.

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:04 PM (GQ8sn)

52 @41 Ace

Theft (compulsory charity) is not virtue, even if I'm stealing a loaf of bread to give to a poor person. I'm not out a dime; the grocer is. It's as simple as that.

Posted by: RS at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (YAGV/)

53 Regarding selfishness, here’s something Sowell had to say in Vision of the Anointed:

Among the many other questions raised by the nebulous concept of “greed” is why it is a term applied almost exclusively to those who want to earn more money or to keep what they have already earned—never to those wanting to take other people’s money in taxes or to those wishing to live on the largesse dispensed from such taxation. No amount of taxation is ever described as “greed” on the part of government or the clientele of government.

When we talk about selfishness as a public virtue, we pretty much fall into the same trap.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (CeNUw)

54 Tread carefully. She owns all the vagina in your relationship.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 28, 2013 04:04 PM (CJjw5)


YEP.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (XIxXP)

55 I like the billboard idea. I'm thinking of retooling my Twitter strategy too. Instead of one page dedicate to Obamacare Plans, maybe we coup get #obamacarefail trending by everyone posting the pathetic plan examples?

Posted by: Lauren at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (ELdpj)

56 Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2013 04:03 PM (XB5Ak)

Interesting reason too.... Court said Doctors have a RIGHT to do what they think is best for their patient...

Even though what Doctors do with patients is almost totally controlled by Law and Regulation....

So.... there is apparently a Doctors Amendment to the Constitution that I have not seen yet...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (lZBBB)

57
Health plan canceled?
We tried to prevent that.
Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

-- The GOP

Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (4tK7k)

58 "Talk about invasion of privacy! "Where'd you get my
address? How do you know who I am!? How do you know what insurance I
had!???"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 03:54 PM (4df7R)"

We bought it from some Russian hackers. The Obamacare web site is not too secure.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 28, 2013 04:06 PM (q1sF4)

59 BILLBOARDS. Three declarative sentences or less. Let the fuckers drive by the reminder EVERY DAY

Posted by: Purp
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Had I the dollars, there would be billboards in every metropolitan area with charts of unemployment, food stamp enrollment, labor participation, deficit, etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:06 PM (aDwsi)

60 Health plan canceled?
We tried to prevent that.
Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

-- The GOP
Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (4tK7k)


That should be on every billboard coast to coast.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:06 PM (XIxXP)

61 "People like to conceive of themselves as generous to a fault, practically heroic in their desire to sacrifice for others. In fact they are not, and only wish to gesture towards sacrifice."

-Replace "People" with "Democrats".

"We have a very infantilized, retarded political discourse at the moment."

-Replace "political discourse" with "electorate".

Posted by: model_1066 at October 28, 2013 04:06 PM (3OFnS)

62 Health plan canceled?
We tried to prevent that.
Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

-- The GOP


Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (4tK7k)



Premiums doubling, tripling, QUADRUPLING?We tried to stop that.Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:07 PM (GQ8sn)

63 " give it to poorer blacks and hispanics -"

They're screwed too. $10,000 deductibles are completely useless on someone making 35k/yr.

Posted by: Lauren at October 28, 2013 04:07 PM (ELdpj)

64 Theft (compulsory charity) is not virtue, even if I'm stealing a loaf of bread to give to a poor person. I'm not out a dime; the grocer is. It's as simple as that.


Posted by: RS at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (YAGV/)


The American Low Info Voter is getting a lesson in TANSTAAFL.... (there aint no such thing as a free lunch).... even after Obama promised said Free Lunch...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2013 04:07 PM (lZBBB)

65 41 not even socially acceptable to say "Wait, as the person actually paying for this, I object."

pure weakness then
I've almost gotten into fights for saying it
I go to 7/11 every morning for my coffee and smokes and i'm grumpy

if I see the welfare case getting smokes and cans of tea, box of pasteries and sundaes after getting out of a new pick-up and whipping out a damn EBT card.....yeah, i'm getting heard
won't mean shit of course but at least i'll feel better

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:07 PM (qVKcL)

66 I'm so jaded that I'm waiting for GOP to fumble this obvious 1st-and-goal situation with the ball on the 1 inch line.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 28, 2013 04:07 PM (EGPJQ)

67 Ace is back!

*does happy dance*

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 28, 2013 04:08 PM (1tL8B)

68 "Dental plan!?" "Lisa needs braces." (Repeat in Homer's brain)
- back when the Simpsons was funny.

Posted by: wooga at October 28, 2013 04:08 PM (j/3FV)

69 if I see the welfare case getting smokes and cans of tea, box of
pasteries and sundaes after getting out of a new pick-up and whipping
out a damn EBT card.....yeah, i'm getting heard

won't mean shit of course but at least i'll feel better



navycopjoe, why are you so racist????

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:08 PM (GQ8sn)

70 The Left has preached for decades that the reason blacks and hispanics are poorer on average than whites is due to the evil, racist actions of white people and the systematic racism of "white privilege"-- and therefore white people are in no position to complain when Obama tries to rectify some of these past sins and injustices.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:08 PM (ZPrif)

71
She owns all the vagina in your relationship.


Silly Infidel. A woman can't own a vagina.

Posted by: mohammed at October 28, 2013 04:09 PM (ZZtT1)

72 67 Ace is back!

*does happy dance*
Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 28, 2013 04:08 PM (1tL8B)

Just don't pester us with that shitty Ewok music, bro.

Posted by: model_1066 at October 28, 2013 04:09 PM (3OFnS)

73 Why are these fucking democrats such vicious racists?

Posted by: Chris M at October 28, 2013 04:09 PM (k3w9p)

74 i'll just get some wire and vise grips at home depot....fix that grill straight up

AND, if you want to be the ultimate conservative Dad keeping his daughter away from newly testosterone afflicted males, you'll wait until she starts looking kinda good and the male hound dogs start hanging around, then do it.

Now, barbed wire braces might be a little over the top, but who am I to judge?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 28, 2013 04:09 PM (U2UQk)

75 69 navycopjoe, why are you so racist????

sorry, half Mexican democrat
I have a anti-racist shield around me

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:10 PM (qVKcL)

76 I've added an update which I think is important. It addresses Flatbush Joe's point, that the left has won the discourse to the point where it's not even socially acceptable to say "Wait, as the person actually paying for this, I object."
Posted by: ace at October 28, 2013 04:01 PM (JAJNR)

Everything has it's breaking point. Just don't think you can predict when that will be.
Yet, luck favors the prepared.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 28, 2013 04:10 PM (nTgAI)

77 AND, if you want to be the ultimate conservative Dad
keeping his daughter away from newly testosterone afflicted males,
you'll wait until she starts looking kinda good and the male hound dogs
start hanging around, then do it.



Now, barbed wire braces might be a little over the top, but who am I to judge?





Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 28, 2013 04:09 PM (U2UQk)


navycopjoe needs the head-gear braces for his daughter! The one that's straight out of SAW. LOL...

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:10 PM (GQ8sn)

78 They have to talk about what money really is: Money is a barter-chit of convenience which represents a certain number of minutes or hours of your labor. Every unit of money actually represents the duration of time -- time you could have spent lying around an doing nothing -- that you used in order to earn that money.

We are past this point. It used to be you could talk about money to voters in terms of "with lower taxes, you will have more money to buy a nicer house, a newer car, save money for your kids education........"

The problem now is too many voters think that this is a responsibility of the government. The government should feed me, cloth me, put a roof over my head and educate my kids. This is what happens when the left convinces you that healthcare, education, food, housing, etc. are all "rights".

We have to figure out a way to discuss things like personal responsibility, self-esteem and self-worth. And right now, my personal thinking is....good luck with that.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 28, 2013 04:10 PM (OWjjx)

79 The GOP has a big tent for all of those liberals about to get mugged. They also are stupid. Let's see which overpowers the other.

Posted by: Roy at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (VndSC)

80 I still like my idea of getting a look alike Obama actor to dress up as the mayhem guy in the Allstate commercials and have him wreak havoc on the insurance industry.

Easy to identify with and everyone remembers those commercials.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (g1DWB)

81 @65 NavyJoe

Don't get me started. During college, I worked in grocery and was appalled at what our tax dollars bought. Perhaps one out of twenty food stamp recipients were conscientious shoppers and got a lot for their food stamps. Most spent them on what I, even today with a much better job, would consider luxury food items.

Posted by: RS at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (YAGV/)

82 Ace is back with a bang! Hope you had a good vacation, Ewok Master!!

I'm sure it's been said, but in California the GOP could send a letter, a dozen roses, a gift card to Starbucks and still the knuckleheads would keep voting in lockstep, for the Dems.

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (8lmkt)

83 no more Cowboys-Lions references, or else.................

Posted by: BundesNachrichtenDienst at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (omBWL)

84 74 she's 12 and looks 16
they are starting to look

and I continue to buy more ammo

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (qVKcL)

85
The reality is there is nothing - REPEAT NOTHING -that Obama can do to blacks / Hispanics that will cause themto turn on him.He can even get up there andopenly admit that he lied and misled the country - and they will kisshis behind for one reason: he is black.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 28, 2013 04:12 PM (EGPJQ)

86 I still like my idea of getting a look alike Obama
actor to dress up as the mayhem guy in the Allstate commercials and have
him wreak havoc on the insurance industry.



Easy to identify with and everyone remembers those commercials.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (g1DWB)


Oh man, you know the first thing, THE FIRST THING!!!, they will say about those commercials?
RACISM!!!!!!

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:12 PM (GQ8sn)

87
It would be entertaining to see a mailer from the GOP promising to 'fight' Obamacare after the surrender-fest we just witnessed.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 28, 2013 04:12 PM (TpXEI)

88 this seems OT but it isn't

have you noticed the age of trick or treaters has gone from child to adult? not even in costume and demanding candy as they travel in packs? its the FSA on parade. I mean, they are driving to my door for candy. What is up with that? If you are taller than me and drove to my door you should be able to buy your own fucking candy. I swear I see all of Sharpstown floating past my door in a massive hoard demanding sweets

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:13 PM (zOTsN)

89 How we go about changing society to the point where it once again begins discussing adult matters as adults, I don't know. But we must think about this, and attempt to re-educate an increasingly uneducated (or deliberately mis-educated) population about Simple Matters, like the basic idea that Stuff Costs Money and Money Isn't Free.

--------------------------

You stop tippy-toeing around the subject by talking about "subsidies" and "cost curves" and all the other weaselspeak politicians use to straddle the fence and try to avoid offending anyone with vague, sterile pabulum.

"The Democrats want to take your money and give it to deadbeats and Mexicans who snuck into our country."

"This is Sean. Sean works 60 hours per week so that he can provide nice things for his family. This is La'Sha'wn'da. Sean will have to pay an extra $5,000 this year and not be able to take his family on vacation so that La'Sha'wn'da will have free health care for herself and the five children she's had with five separate deadbeat fathers while sitting on her dead ass in an apartment, watching the flatscreen TV that Sean also paid for."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 28, 2013 04:13 PM (CJjw5)

90 Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

Is this true? What about the guy from Louisiana, I think? Or was it his vote that got it out of committee in the House?

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 28, 2013 04:13 PM (mPKiR)

91 have you noticed the age of trick or treaters has gone from child to
adult? not even in costume and demanding candy as they travel in packs?
its the FSA on parade. I mean, they are driving to my door for candy.
What is up with that? If you are taller than me and drove to my door you
should be able to buy your own fucking candy. I swear I see all of
Sharpstown floating past my door in a massive hoard demanding sweets



I don't give to anyone out of costume or older than 14.

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (GQ8sn)

92 ....because a White man in a suit and tie is what means MAYHEM to me

Posted by: BundesNachrichtenDienst at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (omBWL)

93

I tried to talk to a few people about all this crap today. Can I just tell you, THERE IS NO FIXING STUPID!!!


Posted by: Spypeach at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (3tFLC)

94 So what is the avg middle class family doing with that marginal $5-$10k that Obamacare is stealing?

Kid's braces seem likely.

Teeth are one of the more visible class markers in America. I predict the crooked teeth caste on the lower end is going to expand into a larger swath of the middle class.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (ZPrif)

95 Hundreds of thousands? At last count adding up the news accounts we should be over 1 million now.


And only have signed up 2,000.

Posted by: Vic at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (zZbNF)

96 81 I once had a microneasian chick with 3 kids get in the cab after buy 5 Iphone5s try to pay the fare with an EBT card
I blew a fucking gasket, fucked up and didn't get paid either

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (qVKcL)

97 The GOP ought to send a letter first to all of the registered Republicans to say "hey, sure we had lost our testicles, but we just found them laying here. Just letting you know."

Posted by: Roy at October 28, 2013 04:14 PM (VndSC)

98 Or we could just point at them and laugh. I find myself doing that a lot lately.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2013 04:15 PM (g1DWB)

99 Charity for the poor is mandated under the sharia. Strong Islamic king Barack Obama will care for you in return for obedience.

Posted by: Boko Haram at October 28, 2013 04:15 PM (jCQ+I)

100 Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:11 PM (qVKcL)

Brother, I have been there and done that. I wish I had some sage advice to give you but the truth is......no one does.

The best I can tell you that if you raised her right, gave her a good foundation of beliefs and let her know you are there for her and continue to take an interest in her life (whether she wants you to or not....and believe me, she won't at times) then it probably will turn out all right.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 28, 2013 04:15 PM (OWjjx)

101 Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

-- The GOP
Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (4tK7k)

~

This is my retort of choice whenever someone starts trying to blame the healthcare fiasco on Republicans.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 28, 2013 04:15 PM (SzAZ7)

102 Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

Is this true? What about the guy from Louisiana, I think? Or was it his vote that got it out of committee in the House?


Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 28, 2013 04:13 PM (mPKiR)


Cao.

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:16 PM (GQ8sn)

103 have you noticed the age of trick or treaters has gone from child to adult? not even in costume and demanding candy as they travel in packs? its the FSA on parade. I mean, they are driving to my door for candy. What is up with that? If you are taller than me and drove to my door you should be able to buy your own fucking candy. I swear I see all of Sharpstown floating past my door in a massive hoard demanding sweets
Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:13 PM (zOTsN)


When I lived in WI we always had a tray of jello shots for the parents. Other houses had different shots. By the time you got around the block it was indeed happy halloween.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:16 PM (XIxXP)

104
Since our best shot at the WH is from our sitting Governors, why not have them address their State's citizens directly. I believe we hold 30 Governor seats.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at October 28, 2013 04:16 PM (oDCMR)

105 100 then it probably will turn out all right.

if not I still have handcuffs and shackles

if that fails its off to the nunnery

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:17 PM (qVKcL)

106 @96 NavyJoe

Or, use EBT for food and then spend $100 on liquor, smokes and dog food. I've seen that, too.

Posted by: RS at October 28, 2013 04:17 PM (YAGV/)

107 My one caveat is that getting this kind of a letter on the heels of

having your insurance cancelled would be creepy and alarming.

Screw the letters, people toss that shit away without even looking.

BILLBOARDS. Three declarative sentences or less. Let the fuckers drive by the reminder EVERY DAY


A smiling public domain picture of Obama. With the following quotes.

"If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan"
""I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my
first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost
of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."

[Followed with]

Democrats Delivered: Keep Voting Democrat!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 28, 2013 04:17 PM (0q2P7)

108 HIPAA laws may frown on this kind of thing..

There is nothing more sacred to several industries that must comply with these laws.. I program pension databases and between DOL regs and HIPAA, the protection of personal information has to have top priority.

There is no way in hell that mailing list would be available without breaking many many privacy laws. Jonah's heart is in the right place, but I hope no one at the GOP listens to him.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 04:17 PM (f9c2L)

109 I think that something like would not represent the party well , nor would it be something that a Regan Republican ( like myself) would want to do in an election year. Only a whacko birds like that Rand Paul or Ted Cruz would make hay out of the shortcomings of a few of our Presidents staffers. For shame.

Now where are those pudding cups you promised ?

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:17 PM (RGDtb)

110 The reality is there is nothing - REPEAT NOTHING -that Obama can do to blacks / Hispanics that will cause themto turn on him.He can even get up there andopenly admit that he lied and misled the country - and they will kisshis behind for one reason: he is black.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 28, 2013 04:12 PM (EGPJQ)


-------------------------------------------------


Unfortunately, you're right. Again I stress this is going to be a hard sell considering the public school indoctrination and the fact that almost 50% of the population is getting free shit.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (XwUBy)

111 if that fails its off to the nunnery

There is an all-female military academy in the outbacks of Missouri. For my oldest, I keep a broucher from them around........just in case.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (OWjjx)

112 OSP the parents are not accompanying the kids

they are trick or treating, for real

they are not people from our neighbor hood or who I know

it is organized begging, hundreds of them, literally

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (zOTsN)

113 If the Dems think they can destroy the medical system and throw millions under the bus and survive, they are delusional.

Hence the rush to get an amnesty bill through.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (JawqV)

114
If it's more than twenty words, I won't read it.

#talktothehand!

Posted by: Typical Stupid Fucking Voter at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (FC8Yl)

115 How we go about changing society to the point where it once again begins discussing adult matters as adults, I don't know.


This is virtually impossible to do as long as we continue to allow the Democrats and media (BIRM) to control the conversation.

The other half of the problem is how do you get a bunch of petulant takers to want to become adult, responsible makers. It's much more easy to go through life with your fingers in your ears, refusing to listen to anyone, while sponging off of your family and friends.

I'm not sure you can reverse this trend without something major (another world war, civil war etc) happening.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (GrtrJ)

116 Many conversations with libs have revealed that they don't believe that money is an actual thing. They seem to think it is magical or nebulous.

Examples: one sister-in-law thinks we should be okay with our premiums tripling since we will likely qualify for subsidies (after subsidies, our insurance is only double what it used to be). See, ACA was created to help people like us. Well, the taxpayer money that will be providing our subsidy could have been used for something more useful if they had just left our insurance alone.

Other sis-in-law, after I explained that other countries can better afford socialized medicine because security provided by our military reduces their own military expenditures, said she thought we could afford to keep the world peace AND provide health coverage for Americans. I guess she hasn't heard about runaway entitlement spending.

There is no reasoning with these people.

Posted by: Mindy at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (ZrNcx)

117
it is organized begging, hundreds of them, literally
Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (zOTsN)


Ho-Lee-Crap. I say NO to that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (XIxXP)

118 Cao.
Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:16 PM (GQ8sn)

Right. Did he vote yes on the final bill? I'm just wondering because I want to be able to say "it passed without a single Republican vote."

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (mPKiR)

119 111 oooooooooh
I may have to look for one of those

anything which could affect her hair would work

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (qVKcL)

120 101 Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.

-- The GOP
Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:05 PM (4tK7k)

~

This is my retort of choice whenever someone starts trying to blame the healthcare fiasco on Republicans.




Mine too.



Posted by: BlueStateRebel who's life was saved by rock and roll at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (7ObY1)

121 GOP Should Begin Sending Individual Market Health Care Policy Holders Electioneering Materials
or perhaps a socially networked MASTER DATABASE with realtime iPad/iPhone feedback!...what was the name of that contractor...

Posted by: ORCA! @feckless.com at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (5ikDv)

122 she's 12 and looks 16
they are starting to look


Maybe I should be the judge. Got a pic?

and I continue to buy more ammo

About that pic? Nevermind.

// just kidding. My wife had the crooked teeth. I had
the okay teeth. So when the kids ended up with the
crooked teeth I bit the bullet and put all three into braces. You ever hear the expression 'racing stripes'? Two year long racing stripe?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (U2UQk)

123 Today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have
neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic
thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international
Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily
fluids.

Posted by: Gen. Jack D Ripper at October 28, 2013 04:20 PM (npxzd)

124 the same folks who protested through River Oaks go through my neighborhood on Halloween, only more of them. There are some kids. There are almost as many adults

Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:20 PM (zOTsN)

125 113 Hence the rush to get an amnesty bill through

nope, rush to single payer
grow the free shit army

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:20 PM (qVKcL)

126 But here's what I think should be happening..

(and, BTW, welcome back Ace - hope you are rested..)

The differential in premiums costs from pre-Obamacare to now MUST be referred to as a tax. Because it is exactly that - a tax on people to transfer parts of their bloated premiums under Obamacare to people making less money.

Someone could probably do better than I in coming up with a catchy way of saying it.. but, it is nevertheless a tax - paid directly to insurers.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 04:20 PM (f9c2L)

127 LGBTQ Panic in the sports world! Dexter Manley (yes, he's still somehow alive) called Troy Aikman a "queer".

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (ZshNr)

128 Can we at least get half of the asian vote?
We actually do better with hispanics than asians. Which is nuts. Asians are solidly in the People Who Are Paying For This Shit camp, yet keep voting as if they are in the Free Shit receiving line.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (ZPrif)

129 Re: Tying political solicitations to insurance cancellations.

Couldn't hurt.

Posted by: Powderhouse at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (Xv7f/)

130
"My one caveat is that getting this kind of a letter on the heels of having your insurance cancelled would be creepy and alarming."
No shit. So long as the list was obtained legally and transparently the creepy and alarming negatives would accrue to the people that created the system making them available, not the folks sending the letters.

Posted by: steve walsh at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (s26zM)

131
Every unit of money actually represents the duration of time -- time you could have spent lying around an doing nothing -- that you used in order to earn that money.

Clinging to the outright falsehood that there is a bright dividing line between property and life/limb leads to the mess we are in today. There is nowhere else it can go.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (V3kRK)

132
LIVs are LIVs fora reason. They don't know any better. The only thing they'll do is not vote in the next election. While that's good, it's not an election changer. Even the MSM will take onlya few token jabs at Obama. Nothing will stick and this will be just another phony scandal by next fall (in their eyes).

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (EGPJQ)

133 Someone could probably do better than I in coming up with a catchy way of saying it.. but, it is nevertheless a tax - paid directly to insurers.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 04:20 PM (f9c2L)

Thank You - Chi Town Roberts

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (nTgAI)

134 Gabe Tweeted about that retarded movie Bad Grampa or something making $32 million it's opening weekend.I Tweeted to him that "Ass" would probably have brought in $50 million,we live in Idiocracy.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (zqvg6)

135 Say what you want about American Christianity, but it never forced people (via the implied threat of police coercion) to be charitable to the poorer-off. Certainly never after the Jacksonian years (to my knowledge, and we can argue that pre-Revolution church taxes went to support staff, not relief efforts).

Posted by: T. at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (6luut)

136 Right. Did he vote yes on the final bill? I'm just wondering because I
want to be able to say "it passed without a single Republican vote."




I can't remember.

I'm afraid to say 'yes'.


Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (GQ8sn)

137 These sort of shenanigans by a few bomb throwers in my party make me intensely angry .

Grrrrrrr.Grrrrrrrr.Grrrr. Grrrrrooooowwwll . Grrrrr.

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (RGDtb)

138 From the Chicago Sun-Times:



Sue Klinkhamer has a problem.

It’s called Obamacare.

And the irony of her situation is not lost on her. In a recent email addressed to her former boss, Illinois Congressman Bill Foster, and other Democratic colleagues, she wrote:

“I spent two years defending Obamacare. I had constituents scream at me, spit at me and call me names that I can’t put in print. The congressman was not re-elected in 2010 mainly because of the anti-Obamacare anger. When the congressman was not re-elected, I also (along with the rest of our staff) lost my job. I was upset that because of the health care issue, I didn’t have a job anymore but still defended Obamacare because it would make health care available to everyone at, what I assumed, would be an affordable price. I have now learned that I was wrong. Very wrong.”


http://tinyurl.com/kzpg3b7

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (P6QsQ)

139 118 Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (mPKiR)



No Republican voted for Obamacare. It was totally 100% Democrat when they had 60 votes in the Senate. And a few months later when they passed the "fix" they did it under reconciliation with a simple majority, again ALL Democrat.


Also no Republican in the House voted for it. It was remarkable unity for Repubicans, even the RINOs.

Posted by: Vic at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (zZbNF)

140 128.

The eternal question:

Why do Jews live like Presbyterians but vote like Puerto Ricans?

Posted by: L. Atwater at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (Xv7f/)

141 I suppose your house would get egged if you put up a sign "Can't afford to give out candy this year--Obamacare tripled my insurance premiums."

...and we're paying for their food stamps to buy the eggs.


If anyone needs me, I'll be curled up over there sobbing.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 28, 2013 04:23 PM (/kI1Q)

142 how about putting people in front of clinics and hospitals with a sign that says "obamacare--told ya so"

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:23 PM (qVKcL)

143 LGBTQ Panic in the sports world! Dexter Manley (yes, he's still somehow alive) called Troy Aikman a "queer".
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (ZshNr)

The didn't let dexter finsish. What he meant is he acts queer and his shits all retarded.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:23 PM (XIxXP)

144 Knowing our luck the dummies would look at the cancellation, look at the GOP letter, and presto chango it would morph into those ckufing Republicans cancelled my insurance!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2013 04:23 PM (oFCZn)

145 I think Asians tend toward liking socialism.Just a hunch*except the Vietnamese and Cambodians it seems)

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2013 04:23 PM (zqvg6)

146 Or the RNC could just buy time on TV and blast it from coast to coast

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (t3UFN)

147 The problem, Ace, is not how I'm saying it. The problem is that is takes a herculean effort to get even a 3 minute window of the typical LIV to even listen to you.

Maybe it's just me. I have a decent-sized group of friends. All working class with decent jobs. They avoid, like the freaking plague, ANY attempt at political talk. I'm considered the most "knowledgeable" about that stuff, but I get a lot of "yeah yeah yeahs" when I try to hold forth on it because it's quite frankly is boring to the average person.

Some of them are complaining about Zerocare; most won't feel the actual pain until 2015 because of the employer mandate delay. Which means they won't be listening to me until this time next year.

Which may actually work in our favor, for once....


Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (YmPwQ)

148 134

I like money !

Posted by: Frito Pendejo at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (RGDtb)

149 Sue Klinkhamer has a problem.

Yup............your stupid. Sorry, no cure for that. No suffer.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (OWjjx)

150 #36 Chung Mee: Speed is important in business. Time is money.


Lawrence Bourne III: You said opium was money.


Chung Mee: Money is Money.


Lawrence Bourne III: Well then, what is time again?


and it's


Fight, fight, fight for Washington State! Win the victory!
Win the day for Crimson and Gray! Best in the West, we know you'll all do your best, so
On, on, on, on! Fight to the end! Honor and Glory you must win! So
Fight, fight, fight for Washington State and victory!


Posted by: Tom T Tuttle from Tacoma at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (npxzd)

151 My one caveat is that getting this kind of a letter on the heels of having your insurance cancelled would be creepy and alarming.

Could not agree more.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (boWsc)

152 Can we at least get half of the asian vote?

We actually do better with hispanics than asians. Which is nuts.
Asians are solidly in the People Who Are Paying For This Shit camp, yet
keep voting as if they are in the Free Shit receiving line.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:21 PM (ZPrif)


A co-worker of mine was Chinese. Born in China, emigrated here. She wasn't a citizen, but I suspected she did vote in the 2004 election illegally.

Her reasoning for voting democrat was: more taxes = more benefits! Everyone should pay more taxes so we can get more benefits!
I told her since she was from China and didn't know any better, I'd cut her some slack.

Posted by: EC at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (GQ8sn)

153 Ace, I just don't think it is possible to reach the LIV and especially the lib-minded that voted for Obama and thought they were going to get awesome FAIR health coverage... because.. FAIRNESS.

These types do not like the GOP. They associate a negative vibe with the characterization of conservative and they increasingly have a jaundiced eye towards the so-called Tea Partiers. Thanks MSM and democrats and pop-culture, I just don't see anything to be gained by talking to these shitheads at all.

Let THEM... come to us for answers. Let them seek out the party or governing philosophy that argued against big Government and social programs because fairness. And as they eye the GOP, they'll see there really is a status quo GOP and then there are us conservatives that are trying to rein it in.

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 04:24 PM (/jHWN)

154 “I spent two years defending Obamacare. I had constituents scream at me, spit at me and call me names that I can’t put in print. The congressman was not re-elected in 2010 mainly because of the anti-Obamacare anger. When the congressman was not re-elected, I also (along with the rest of our staff) lost my job. I was upset that because of the health care issue, I didn’t have a job anymore but still defended Obamacare because it would make health care available to everyone at, what I assumed, would be an affordable price. I have now learned that I was wrong. Very wrong.”
http://tinyurl.com/kzpg3b7

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (P6QsQ)



You can't fix stupid.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 28, 2013 04:25 PM (4df7R)

155 There is no reasoning with these people.
Posted by: Mindy at October 28, 2013 04:19 PM (ZrNcx)
Hollywood and TVhas taught people not to trust Republicans or (even worse) conservatives. They are all crazed Jesus freaks who don't believe in dinosaurs. If they have facts, you can bet they are somehow wrong.If the low-info lib leanersdo get curious, they wander over to a place like politifact and read thatthe conservative position is a lie. They email out a link to the conservative (witHout reading it) and go on their merry way.It's circular reasoning done by people who aren't really paying attention. There is no reason for Detroit tocontinue to vote for Democrats. Yet it will forever and ever.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 28, 2013 04:25 PM (TpXEI)

156 138. Used to be people were more circumspect about publicly proclaiming their gullible stupidity (or is it, stupid gullibility?) Anyway.

Posted by: reklore at October 28, 2013 04:25 PM (Xv7f/)

157 They have to talk about what money really is:



A 40 ounce, a spliff, an xbox, nikes, cheetos, a new xbox game, tickets to a concert, tix to an nba game........

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:26 PM (8D0/R)

158 South Asians are big Democrat voters. Overwhelmingly. They generally think Republicans hate them cause they are Hindu or Muslim. And nobody will vote for a party that they think hates them.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:26 PM (ZPrif)

159 A 40 ounce, a spliff, an xbox, nikes, cheetos, a new xbox game, tickets to a concert, tix to an nba game........
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:26 PM (8D0/R)


and 6k worth of rims, spinny fkn rims.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:26 PM (XIxXP)

160 All Republican letters should state "we can fix this but first you must blow me".

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 28, 2013 04:27 PM (qRasw)

161 I didn’t have a job anymore but still defended Obamacare because it would make health care available to everyone at, what I assumed, would be an affordable price. I have now learned that I was wrong. Very wrong.�
http://tinyurl.com/kzpg3b7

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 04:22 PM (P6QsQ)


You can't fix stupid.



But you can make it hurt. In spades.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:27 PM (8D0/R)

162 The Dems will respond by mailing each one a box of condoms that are denoted as being "free"…

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 04:27 PM (XvHmy)

163 And South Asians are told, and believe, that Republicans look down on them for having dark skin.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:28 PM (ZPrif)

164 I can see it now. Republican bRaIn TrUsT passes on campaigning against ObingaJuntaCare because it makes Ted Cruz look good.

I can see it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 28, 2013 04:28 PM (boWsc)

165 All Republican letters should state "we can fix this but first you must blow me"



"And The Middle Class".

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:28 PM (8D0/R)

166 Probably the greatest victory of the let was the eradication of shame.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2013 04:28 PM (zqvg6)

167
113 If the Dems think they can destroy the medical system and throw millions under the bus and survive, they are delusional.

Hence the rush to get an amnesty bill through.

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Precisely. Amnesty only works this year though. So slow walk all Senate proposals and demand real entitlement cuts for considering their citizen inflationary plans. Oh, and don't pass either. Call Harry a distrustful lying sack of bought shit and walk away.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (oDCMR)

168 OT: i'm about to make stew in the slow cooker because i'm skinny and need food
do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (qVKcL)

169 Re education very difficult. On the other hand there are no atheists in the foxhole. Or so I have heard.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (rznx3)

170 heh... I just thought of it.. GOP should be mailing out free condoms. With a note to the LIV and democrats. Well.... since you're getting fucked, might as well be safe about it..

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (/jHWN)

171 >>How we go about changing society to the point where it once again begins discussing adult matters as adults, I don't know.

Pain. Pure and simple.

Those who are old enough to remember, harken back to the halcyon days of Jimmy from Plains. He was also originally hailed as a smart, compassionate good guy who could really deliver the little guy.

His honeymoon was considerably shorter because 1) he is a prickly asshole 2) his fuckups were so blindingly obvious and hurt so many people directly that nobody wanted to defend him after a while.

Reagan as able to break through because people wanted something new. And he was able to focus his message almost entirely on big government screwing everything up. People could relate. Gas lines, interest rates through the roof, the economy in the crapper. These thing hurt people directly.

Much as we may be outraged by Obama's fuckups in Benghazi or other foreign policy disasters or even the gun running in Mexico or the IRS scandal, for the vast majority of Americans there was no direct harm.

But now we have Obamacare and not one single promise Obama made is coming true. We are all getting boned except for the FSA and there are still more of us than them. Not by much but we are still in the lead.

We need to take this opportunity, just as Reagan did, to focus people not just on Obamacare but the problem with an overbearing and unaccountable enormous federal government. This isn't a failure of a website, this is a failure of big government in action.

If we don't ram this message home every chance we get we are missing a huge opportunity.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (g1DWB)

172 I become a Lutheran at Halloween, inasmuch as October 31 is Reformation Day. I hand out copies of Martin Luther's theses.

Posted by: RS at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (YAGV/)

173 75 69 navycopjoe, why are you so racist????

sorry, half Mexican democrat
I have a anti-racist shield around me
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:10 PM (qVKcL)
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You think so?

Posted by: George Zimmerman at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (dfYL9)

174 How about a single press event or buying TV time where the GOP actually stands together and very simply articulates;

- None of us voted for this, but we are determines to fix it
- This is why we took a stand during the latest Debt Ceiling negotiation against Obamacare, which his highness gloated over winning without sparing you any pain.
- These are our ideas to help you...

Novel idea, I know- all this speaking with a single voice articulately in a high profile event where the media can't obfuscate your true purpose.

Also don't forget. As much as the media is now piling on the bandwagon, those dopes helped sell this entire dishonest mess and flamed Republicans for some very succinct opposition.

Posted by: Marcus at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (GGCsk)

175 OSP the parents are not accompanying the kids they are trick or treating, for real they are not people from our neighbor hood or who I know it is organized begging, hundreds of them, literally
Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 04:18 PM (zOTsN)


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In my neighborhood it became entire illegal mehican families. Adults, older teenagers, adolescents, and toddlers, all without any semblence of a costume and all with a bag in their hand. It's why most in my neighborhood pull the blinds closed, lock the doors and turn out the outside lights during Hallowween night. We're tired of giving out sugar welfare.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2013 04:30 PM (XwUBy)

176

They should be prebuying summer TV/Radio time ... get it while its cheap like Obama 2012 did - don't wait for the actual candidates to have to buy fall spots at bust-out retail

some cheap summer time on major market TV/radio in the summer when the other side doesn't have money... and we know the DNC is still in debt from 12

Posted by: phreshone at October 28, 2013 04:30 PM (Pr6hk)

177 168.. NCJ... absolutely... or not. What time should I be dropping by... sounds good...

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 04:30 PM (/jHWN)

178 >> If ObamaCare itself makes this public, so much the better: then introduce the letter by saying ObamaCare makes your personal health insurance information public, and we think that's a bad thing, but that said, here's our pitch as to the rest of it.

Even better: "Pardon the interruption, but we learned through a Chinese hacker IRC channel that your insurance plan was canceled."

Posted by: Andy at October 28, 2013 04:31 PM (DA/Mm)

179 I think it's a solid idea, and the biggest mistake conservatives can make is just assuming voters will figure out what to do all by themselves when private health insurance is completely destroyed.

If the GOP doesn't take charge of the issue, the media will try and blame greedy insurance companies.

Posted by: McAdams at October 28, 2013 04:31 PM (nLzpi)

180 Somewhere in the Obamacare roll-out disaster is a good Halloween Commercial the GOP needs to make.

Posted by: Marcus at October 28, 2013 04:31 PM (GGCsk)

181 173 You think so?

damnit

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:31 PM (qVKcL)

182 A co-worker of mine was Chinese. Born in China,
emigrated here. She wasn't a citizen, but I suspected she did vote in
the 2004 election illegally.

Her reasoning for voting democrat was: more taxes = more benefits! Everyone should pay more taxes so we can get more benefits!
I told her since she was from China and didn't know any better, I'd cut her some slack.


Posted by: EC
...........
Here's the problem.. most people think of "illegals" as Hispanic.. not the case!

There are millions of Asians here illegally. These are the "visa overstays" you hardly ever hear about, but who make up about 40% of illegals. A lot of these are Indian and Pakistani.. but there are tons from the 'stans', and even more from China and the Phillipines.

Even if they are here legally, they want free shit for their illegal relatives living in their basements. and they want them to be able to get a job legally and all the rest of the stuff that comes with being legal.

Of course they will vote Democrat. they would be stupid not to.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 04:31 PM (f9c2L)

183 ObamaCare supporters who think they are doing you a favor by increasing your premiums because they consider your plan substandard are the same kind of zealots as the Spanish Conquistadors who cut off the hands of pagan Indians and tried to get conversions from the folks they were burning at the stake. "For your own good", you know.

Posted by: T. at October 28, 2013 04:31 PM (6luut)

184 The final house roll call vote had ZERO republicans voting in favor

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll165.xml

Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 04:32 PM (4tK7k)

185 Great post.

Posted by: wyntre at October 28, 2013 04:32 PM (xhCXk)

186 do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?

Posted by: navycopjoe


No, but it tastes better. Chicken is trickier because of the low fat content; tends to dry out in slow-cookers.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2013 04:32 PM (xz0nG)

187 177 her highness gets home at 5

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:32 PM (qVKcL)

188 I have a anti-racist shield around me
Posted by: navycopjoe
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That's what I thought....

Posted by: Allen West at October 28, 2013 04:32 PM (aDwsi)

189 I thought Ted Cruz sent out a 21 hour long letter already.

Posted by: polynikes at October 28, 2013 04:32 PM (m2CN7)

190 OT: i'm about to make stew in the slow cooker because i'm skinny and need food do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 04:29 PM (qVKcL)

You don't have too, but it makes a better stew IMO. Also starts it cooking faster

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (nTgAI)

191 do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?


Not if you love the tasty tanginess of Salmonella.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (qRasw)

192
186 do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?

Posted by: navycopjoe

No, but it tastes better. Chicken is trickier because of the low fat content; tends to dry out in slow-cookers.
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Use dark meat. If you want white, then add it much later to prevent drying out.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (oDCMR)

193 I have a anti-racist shield around me
Posted by: navycopjoe

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That's what I thought...
---------------


Me too!

Posted by: Ben Carson at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (aDwsi)

194 Our prediction: Four Pinocchios

Posted by: Politifact at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (8ZskC)

195 How about the GOP doing a commercial stating... THIS IS WHY the Federal Government cannot take "care" of you. Help us empower your State and community to see to your needs and lets' stop the redistribution of money from citizens to Federal coffers to be doled out to the most effective lobby or special interest.

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (/jHWN)

196 >>OT: i'm about to make stew in the slow cooker because i'm skinny and need food do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?

Ha. Just did that yesterday. I browned the meat first. Definitely makes the stew taste better.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2013 04:34 PM (g1DWB)

197 168 OT: i'm about to make stew in the slow cooker because i'm skinny and need food
do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?

Definitely , brown the meat first, And if your putting onions and garlic in the stew then sauté those as well, the deglaze the pan with some broth and pour it all into the slow cooker.

Yum, don't forget the bread

Posted by: Spypeach at October 28, 2013 04:34 PM (3tFLC)

198 OT: i'm about to make stew in the slow cooker because i'm skinny and need food

do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?

Posted by: navycopjoe
..........
It's better if you do.. and when done, you need to de-glaze the pan with some of the juice/water you will use and dump that in too. That's where all the meat flavor is!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 04:34 PM (f9c2L)

199 Well no sh*t Dick Tracy,

What do you think will happen when we flood the USA with 1 million legal immigrants from f#cked up countries every year?

Theu will vote like they did in their crappy country the just left most of the time

See: hispanics for a nice example

Posted by: capt. sock puppet at October 28, 2013 04:35 PM (q+zA9)

200 It ain't just fucking money. You trade whole pieces of your life for that money. They are stealing your life when they extort your money.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:35 PM (xWW96)

201

Why would you wacko-birds want to disparage the other side of the aisle? How neanderthal of you. We really need to get the money out of politics

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:35 PM (Pr6hk)

202 Some of them are complaining about Zerocare; most won't feel the actual pain until 2015 because of the employer mandate delay. Which means they won't be listening to me until this time next year. Which may actually work in our favor, for once....

Don't agree. Without a 'critical mass' you don't get a big explosion -- you get a dud. Kicking the different groups a year apart keeps them thinking the crocodile won't be waiting for them this time next year.

But the croc will be waiting, hungrier then ever.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 28, 2013 04:36 PM (U2UQk)

203 When I said you'd get 3,000% savings in your healthcare costs, I was speaking metaphorically. That means I didn't actually have to tell the truth, because, metaphor.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 28, 2013 04:36 PM (8ZskC)

204 It ain't just fucking money. You trade whole pieces of your life for that money. They are stealing your life when they extort your money.
Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:35 PM (xWW96)


They are stealing it when they print more. Your savings, what you work hard for and bleed to keep, dwindles in purchasing power.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (XIxXP)

205 Since our best shot at the WH is from our sitting Governors, why not have them address their State's citizens directly. I believe we hold 30 Governor seats.

*rises from chair and straightens tie*

Posted by: John Kasich, Doing the Lord's Work at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (hrIP5)

206


Can those pamphlets mention me too?


Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (Pr6hk)

207 *high fives Spypeach*

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (f9c2L)

208 ESPN doing a puff piece on Tony Castro -- son of Fidel -- and Cuban baseball.

Piece has blamed Cuban poverty on the US embargo several times.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (ZPrif)

209 I have a anti-racist shield around me Posted by: navycopjoe ----- That's what I thought... --------------- Me too!
Posted by: Ben Carson at October 28, 2013 04:33 PM (aDwsi)
..............................
you can say that again

Posted by: Stacy Dash at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (q+zA9)

210
meanwhile in reality...

BAD GRANDPA is the #1 movie, raking in over $30M.

Yes, by all means, send Dumb People missives; missives with lots of words.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (GcwH1)

211 The Dems excel at sending out the scapegoating messages to the masses while the GOP is still tweaking their Robocaller 2000-B machine

Rather than fix 404Care, all the IT brains right now are wording the spin that sends instant Jornolist talking points simultaneously to Twitter, Facebook, and every iPhone in America how the premium hikes are the fault of Bush, Palin, Cruz, the Koch Brothers, Karl Rove, and Fox News

Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (aTXUx)

212 Use dark meat. If you want white, then add it much later to prevent drying out.



That's ray-ciss. Or sump'tin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (8D0/R)

213
Well no sh*t Dick Tracy,
-----------

I haven't heard that expression in quite a while.

Posted by: Tess Trueheart at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (aDwsi)

214

Bob Dole says don't be like Bob Dole. Get out there and fight, unlike Bob Dole did when Bob Dole ran to be President Bob Dole.


Posted by: Bob Dole at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (Pr6hk)

215 168 OT: i'm about to make stew in the slow cooker because i'm skinny and need food do I need to brown the beef and chicken first? Definitely , brown the meat first, And if your putting onions and garlic in the stew then sauté those as well, the deglaze the pan with some broth and pour it all into the slow cooker. Yum, don't forget the bread
Posted by: Spypeach at October 28, 2013 04:34 PM (3tFLC)

Just borrow a couple of cans of Dinty Moore from EOJ and be done with it.

Posted by: polynikes at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (m2CN7)

216 do I need to brown the beef and chicken first?


Posted by: navycopjoe

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Only if you don't want the beef to come out gray. It will taste the same if you don't brown it, but it won't look like it came out of a prison kitchen steam kettle.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 28, 2013 04:39 PM (CJjw5)

217
They are stealing your life when they extort your money.

Minutes, hours, days, weeks, and years that nobody can give back to you.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 28, 2013 04:39 PM (V3kRK)

218

Can we try to raise money at the same time.

Posted by: Reince Preibus at October 28, 2013 04:40 PM (Pr6hk)

219 Cuba has started to let rich MLB defectors come back to visit family in Cuba ... and spend money in Cuba.

Tony Castro wants to partner with MLB, let players come and go to the US. Specifically talks about having an MLB franchise in Havana someday and MLB-linked baseball academies.

Kind of interesting actually. Could be a good angle for reform.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:40 PM (ZPrif)

220 I get a lotta from old Reince. He gets none from me.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:41 PM (xWW96)

221 Just borrow a couple of cans of Dinty Moore from EOJ and be done with it.



Posted by: polynikes at October 28, 2013 04:38 PM (m2CN7)

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It must be EARNED. How are your knife-fighting skills?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 28, 2013 04:41 PM (CJjw5)

222


See these pamphlets... The Rethuglicans are trying to steal your contraception.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 28, 2013 04:41 PM (Pr6hk)

223
@189
I thought Ted Cruz sent out a 21 hour long letter already.


exactly.

Posted by: noone, really at October 28, 2013 04:41 PM (5ikDv)

224 lotta mail @ 220.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:41 PM (xWW96)

225 Maybe I'm missing something but how come the GOP isn't LOUDLY protesting the Prezzy of the United Stezzy CHANGING the " It's the Law" unilaterally? They really need to push back on this... because they are abdicating their authority here and it is stupid.

Just because the MSM doesn't know and the public doesn't know doesn't mean this should not be a big deal. This administration is changing a specifically worded law pell-mell , as it suits them. The IRS and HHS have been granted large latitude in deciding what means what to them and that is not the way it works.

The Supreme Court case that might kill the Federal subsidies for the 36 states that did not set up exchanges will hinge on this delineation and the GOP needs to get out in front of that message pronto.

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 04:42 PM (/jHWN)

226 Just borrow a couple of cans of Dinty Moore from EOJ and be done with it.

Posted by: polynikes
---------------

A soupçon of Paisano mixed in will perk it up

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:42 PM (aDwsi)

227 It ain't just fucking money. You trade whole pieces of your life for that money. They are stealing your life when they extort your money. Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:35 PM (xWW96)

They are stealing it when they print more. Your savings, what you work hard for and bleed to keep, dwindles in purchasing power.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:37 PM (XIxXP)


-----------------------------------------------


The dems/leftists/marxists are doing now what they've wanted to do for the last 60 - 100 years; destroy the middle class. And I think they'd rather revert to outright killing than give it up now, especially since they're so close to succeeding.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2013 04:42 PM (XwUBy)

228 Alaska health exchange suspends its website after enrolling only three (3) people.




http://tinyurl.com/kshsyoe

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 04:42 PM (P6QsQ)

229 Interesting sign of the collapse of civilization: The latest trend in Hollywood elite security is moats.

http://tinyurl.com/ktldkaj

I think our longbow/crossbow debate was ahead of its time.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:43 PM (Hx5uv)

230 Speaking of Dinty Moore, I can tell you from experience it isn't like fine wine. When the cans get 10years old, best to give it to the hogs.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:43 PM (xWW96)

231 Piece has blamed Cuban poverty on the US embargo several times.

And Venezuelan poverty is because of...

Haitian poverty is due to...

Nicaraguan poverty is caused by...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 28, 2013 04:43 PM (659DL)

232 lotta mail @ 220.
Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:41 PM (xWW96)

I get peeved at those ridiculous "Voter Surveys" they send out that mirror all their stupid talking points.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 28, 2013 04:43 PM (nTgAI)

233 Minutes, hours, days, weeks, and years that nobody can give back to you.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT
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Time - Our most precious, non-renewable resource.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (aDwsi)

234 Ms. Plame, do you need to have everyone who received those GOP pamphlets audited???

Posted by: Lois Lerner at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (Pr6hk)

235 208 I meant to ask about this,are they now allowed to sign Cuban players who don't defect?

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (zqvg6)

236 I ate the Dinty Moore... but man... it is loaded with the salt.

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (/jHWN)

237 And I think they'd rather revert to outright killing than give it up now, especially since they're so close to succeeding.


Please. Let them start. It won't end like they expect.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (8D0/R)

238 219
Cuba has started to let rich MLB defectors come back to visit family in Cuba ... and spend money in Cuba.



Tony Castro wants to partner with MLB, let players come and go to
the US. Specifically talks about having an MLB franchise in Havana
someday and MLB-linked baseball academies.



Kind of interesting actually. Could be a good angle for reform.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:40 PM

Maybe it's time for me to buy a ball team

Posted by: Hyman Roth at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (aTXUx)

239 I get peeved at those ridiculous "Voter Surveys" they send out that mirror all their stupid talking points.

Posted by: The Jackhole
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Just an excuse to get the return envelope to you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (aDwsi)

240 I think our longbow/crossbow debate was ahead of its time.
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:43 PM (Hx5uv)

just wait for the comming Trebuchet vs. Catapult discussions

Posted by: capt. sock puppet at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (q+zA9)

241 The dems/leftists/marxists are doing now what they've wanted to do for the last 60 - 100 years; destroy the middle class.
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I think the word you're looking for is bourgeoisie.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:45 PM (Hx5uv)

242

It's the saddest thing in the world, that we have to strategize on telling the truth and figuring out how to communicate to voters.

It shouldn't be, and isn't, that hard.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 28, 2013 04:45 PM (IXrOn)

243 All that mail will certainly overturn Guam... Ban the GOP from sending mail.

Posted by: Hank Johnson (D) Georgia at October 28, 2013 04:45 PM (Pr6hk)

244
230 Speaking of Dinty Moore, I can tell you from experience it isn't like fine wine. When the cans get 10years old, best to give it to the hogs.
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Used to be a staple for me until they replaced the meat with weird balls of something. Strange stuff nowadays.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at October 28, 2013 04:45 PM (oDCMR)

245 I get peeved at those ridiculous "Voter Surveys" they send out that mirror all their stupid talking points. Posted by: The Jackhole at October 28, 2013 04:43 PM (nTgAI) Yeah. They should send out a survey the Teaparty made up concerning the GOP leadership. The responses might not agree with them.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:46 PM (xWW96)

246 Interesting sign of the collapse of civilization: The latest trend in Hollywood elite security is moats.

http://tinyurl.com/ktldkaj

I think our longbow/crossbow debate was ahead of its time.


Trebuchets FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:46 PM (8D0/R)

247 The last time I had canned stew(during the Sandy powweroutage) ,it was awful,metallic tasting shit,the same with Chunky soup or whatever that crap is called.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2013 04:46 PM (zqvg6)

248 Apparently Cuba is having trouble affording enough balls and bats for their national teams.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 04:46 PM (ZPrif)

249 >>>It will taste the same if you don't brown it

Buzz. The Maillard reaction imparts a distinctive flavor to meats and many other foods. It in fact creates hundreds of flavor compounds distinctive to each food that is prepared using that process.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 28, 2013 04:46 PM (0q2P7)

250 "We have a very infantilized, retarded political discourse at the moment. We discuss serious matters of math -- boring, sterile, unforgiving math -- as children might, where all that matters is intention and good feeling."

Haven't you noticed that that's exactly the kind of math they teach our kids in school these days?

Posted by: Socratease at October 28, 2013 04:46 PM (3V4IJ)

251 Miss me yet?

Posted by: James from Plains at October 28, 2013 04:47 PM (Pr6hk)

252 Posted by: Hyman Roth at October 28, 2013 04:44 PM (aTXUx)

Have Johnny Ola take you to the club with Superman. I hear the dude has a big bat.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2013 04:47 PM (g1DWB)

253 I disagree Ace: this should not be soft peddled at all. Slam the LIV's right between the eyes.

It'll take several smacks to wake even a few of them up from their dream world as it is, and hitting them with the sort of letter Jonah suggests is only step one.

Posted by: MTF at October 28, 2013 04:47 PM (Wp/g8)

254 228
Alaska health exchange suspends its website after enrolling only three (3) people.

http://tinyurl.com/kshsyoe

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 04:42 PM

See, it's that stoopid Caribou Barbie again who doesn't want anybody to have health care!!11!!

Posted by: jornolist 3.0 at October 28, 2013 04:47 PM (aTXUx)

255
"Whatchu do is whatchu do!"

That's the anti-bullying rap-slogan-song that Cartoon Network. If you look carefully, it's really just an anti-judgement campaign aimed at advancing youth-homosexuality.

Words matter, fiends.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 28, 2013 04:47 PM (Fely/)

256 The new grammar:

Copy-editing issues can intrude into even the most intimate decisions. The other day, half-listening, I heard someone who is normally meticulous about grammar say, “They is coming next week.” It didn’t sound like a joke, so I listened more closely and heard him use “they” with a singular verb form a couple more times.

I asked why he was doing this, and he explained that he was referring to an individual who was born male but now realizes that he has both male and female aspects. Nowadays when people adopt a non-traditional gender image, they often specify the pronouns that they want to be applied to them. The person in question, shunning the male/female binary, chose they/their/etc. as the proper pronoun set. But this person is still an individual, so plural verb forms would be inappropriate (though they’d be correct for somebody who feels like two different people in a single body). Thus “they is.”

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:48 PM (Hx5uv)

257 I get peeved at those ridiculous "Voter Surveys" they send out that mirror all their stupid talking points.

Posted by: The Jackhole
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Add Veg-All (no sodium). Less meat per helping, but, meh. At some point you have vegatable-beef soup, which ain't bad either.

I spent a lot of time being down and out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:48 PM (aDwsi)

258 I'm pretty sure the GOP will let this one roll between their legs

Posted by: Bill Buckner at October 28, 2013 04:48 PM (Pr6hk)

259 If you can truly enjoy a can of Dinty Moore, you can enjoy the taste of moonshine. Which, by the way, tastes like fucking hell. And I've drank gallons of that crap.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (xWW96)

260 Apparently Cuba is having trouble affording enough balls and bats for their national teams.


Call Russia & whine.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (8D0/R)

261 Don't agree. Without a 'critical mass' you don't get a big explosion --
you get a dud. Kicking the different groups a year apart keeps them
thinking the crocodile won't be waiting for them this time next year...

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That's the thing. It ain't hurting these guys now; it will be next year just before the election.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (YmPwQ)

262 It shouldn't be, and isn't, that hard.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette


Even harder when a bunch of your 'leaders' are eager to contradict stated principles, use the same language as your opponents, and wallow in maverick affectations.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (xz0nG)

263 It's time to rub the dog's nose in it.

Posted by: Ceasar Milan at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (Pr6hk)

264 Fucking scum


http://tinyurl.com/kpm4apq

A beloved World War II veteran and pillar of his local community was brutally killed in a violent mugging by four teenagers on his driveway.
Terrance Morgan and Edward Johnson, both 19, and Leslie Litt and Geblonski Murray, both 18, have been arrested for the violent death of Lawrence E. 'Shine' Thornton of Greenville, Mississippi on October 18.
Assistant police chief Andrew Kaho said that each of the teens were also charged with robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery.


If Obama had a country, it would look like these wastes of shit.

Posted by: RWC at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (fWAjv)

265 Thus “they is.”

Posted by: WalrusRex
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They shit is fucked up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (aDwsi)

266 Unless somebody goes and gets the thing delayed again.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (YmPwQ)

267 a couple of weeks ago, we had a thread about ridiculously obvious things that we learned far to late in life. I have an example of something I learned today: hungry and Hungary are two different words.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:50 PM (Hx5uv)

268
Miss me yet?

Posted by: James from Plains at October 28, 2013 04:47 PM (Pr6hk)

Who?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 28, 2013 04:50 PM (mETGQ)

269 Come on guys. Why be so petty, just because you were right. Just admire the creases.

Posted by: David Brooks at October 28, 2013 04:51 PM (Pr6hk)

270 How about "the parasite bastards that have overrun this country are robbing you blind. Isn't it about time you grow some balls and start fighting back?"........... Too harsh?

Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2013 04:51 PM (2NeaA)

271 It's the saddest thing in the world, that we have to strategize on telling the truth and figuring out how to communicate to voters. It shouldn't be, and isn't, that hard.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 28, 2013 04:45 PM (IXrOn)


---------------------------------------------


With Ocare, the old-fashioned kick-in-the-balls life lesson in what the truth is will become something to watch for in the ranks of the LIV. Especially the LIV's that still work.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2013 04:51 PM (XwUBy)

272
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 28, 2013 04:50 PM (mETGQ)


[slow clap]

Posted by: Rick Ellensburg at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (Pr6hk)

273 What is happening here is that the tapeworm has finally grown enough segments to start calling the shots.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (xWW96)

274
The last time I had canned stew(during the Sandy powweroutage) ,it was awful,metallic tasting shit,the same with Chunky soup or whatever that crap is called.

I wouldn't say the shit has ever been great, but the major brands have gotten a lot worse the last few years because of the Bloombergesque low sodium trend.

I use a lot less salt on my food than most people I know, and most canned stuff is now too bland for even me.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (V3kRK)

275 It's time to rub the dog's nose in it.
Posted by: Ceasar Milan



*Golf. Clap*

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (8D0/R)

276 I don't have any problem with sending out info, but the reality is the majority of that info will be ignored. It is far, far, far more important for the GOP to get in front of every camera, microphone, etc. and say this repeatedly. Just keep pounding it.

But the GOP won't. they don't want to appear "mean" and don't want to seem like they are calling Obama a liar.

So, instead, we will get mailers that 98% or better of the recipients will trash without ever reading. The ones who do read it will likely be people who already vote R.

There is an easy case to be made here, the GOP just refuses to make that case. Because the GOP is scare of a) being called racist for pointing out Obama lied; b) being called mean because they don't want to give "health care" to the poor; and c) don't want to make the media made by creating conflict with Obama.

So, good luck with all of that.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (sOx93)

277 Dear Kaiser Permanente member,
This is what we were trying to prevent. This thing that is happening to you right now. You are having your insurance canceled. You are going to pay a lot more money. The health care systemis crashing.
We tried to prevent it. We...tried. We did everything we could think of. We went so far as to shut down the government to prevent them from doing this to you. We were called racists. Demonized. Lied about. But we persevered and did our very best.
And we failed. We failed because you did notsupport us. We failed because youwere lied to.
Help us not to fail again.
Signed, the Republican party.

Posted by: TVland at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (F192H)

278 Which, by the way, tastes like fucking hell.
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I think you may have a poor supplier. I was told by a acquaintance (I forget his name) that there are sources of most excellent white liquor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (aDwsi)

279 Call Russia whine.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (8D0/R)


Da, comrade in socialism. We have special bat we call "Thing" with genuine Siberian cork center and mysterious ability to record and transmit locker room discussion without battery or wire.

Posted by: Glorious Soviet Wood Implement Factory No. 2314 at October 28, 2013 04:53 PM (8ZskC)

280 I get peeved at those ridiculous "Voter Surveys" they send out that mirror all their stupid talking points. Posted by: The Jackhole ------------- Add Veg-All (no sodium). Less meat per helping, but, meh. At some point you have vegatable-beef soup, which ain't bad either. I spent a lot of time being down and out.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:48 PM (aDwsi)

I tried that, but the envelope ripped, heh

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 28, 2013 04:53 PM (nTgAI)

281 Time to make Fajitas, steak, Have a great day rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 28, 2013 04:53 PM (XIxXP)

282 If Obama had a country, it would look like these wastes of shit.
Posted by: RWC at October 28, 2013 04:49 PM (fWAjv)


saw that, sucks to be unarmed.
Some old timers just won't carry a handgun, I can't get my dad to just yet

Posted by: capt. sock puppet at October 28, 2013 04:53 PM (q+zA9)

283
How about "the parasite bastards that have overrun this country are
robbing you blind. Isn't it about time you grow some balls and start
fighting back?"........... Too harsh?


Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2013 04:51 PM (2NeaA)

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I like it. I give it a 98. It has a good beat and it's easy to dance to.

Posted by: mama winger at October 28, 2013 04:53 PM (P6QsQ)

284 From HA


"“I don’t think there’s any doubt that Secretary Clinton would be a very
strong candidate,” McCain said of the former secretary of state, senator
from New York and first lady. “I don’t think there’s any doubt she has
widespread support. Her work as secretary of state, with the exception
of this issue of Benghazi — which isn’t going away — I think has been
outstanding ..."

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:54 PM (Pr6hk)

285 I read "Rang" as Rand Paul. I was confused.

Right on Ace.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at October 28, 2013 04:54 PM (09o/X)

286 As surely as the Germans have been dictating to the Greeks et al, soon China will be dictating to us.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:54 PM (aDwsi)

287
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 04:52 PM (aDwsi)

Some is pretty good, most is raw as a good flogging. Old fashioned pop skull right off the still, aged in the finest mason jars.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2013 04:54 PM (xWW96)

288 Personally I think the GOP should do a very short, one sentence commercial: "Hey America, Go Fuck Yourself!". That's how I feel about any country that would re-elect a shit fucking retard like SCOAMF. We do deserve to die.

Posted by: Chris M at October 28, 2013 04:55 PM (k3w9p)

289 >>>Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:48 PM (Hx5uv)

The idea that you get to choose your pronoun regardless of what these pronouns actually mean is near the height of self centered naval gazing stupidity. I don't care how many *aspects* you think you have. You are either a he/she/ or it. And you don't get to make the choice as to which one *I* think describes you best when I'm talking to another person about you.

So yes Chelsea, you can change your name all you want. But you're still a "HE" until I think some other pronoun describes you better. Get over it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 28, 2013 04:55 PM (0q2P7)

290 Repeat after me - Obama Lied and HealthCare Died. Simple really. Say it over and over again.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at October 28, 2013 04:55 PM (oDCMR)

291 Team Obama has already sent out the "GOP wants Affordable Care to fail" via the Daily Show, TV, and social media long before the first envelope is stuffed by a temp with the flyer blocking the address

Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 04:55 PM (aTXUx)

292 I don't recall a politician in the past 2 decades saying this, but it needs to be said often:
"Money is a barter-chit of convenience which represents a certain number of minutes or hours of your labor. Every unit of money actually represents the duration of time -- time you could have spent lying around an doing nothing -- that you used in order to earn that money."
It also works for the debt. That's the labor we owe because we spent someone elses labor so we can spend time lying around and doing nothing.

Posted by: Leland at October 28, 2013 04:55 PM (QB3JR)

293 As surely as the Germans have been dictating to the Greeks et al, soon China will be dictating to us.


They'll want our women.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2013 04:56 PM (8ZskC)

294 I like stew but I miss gumbo. You would think you could get some decent gumbo in Houston since its fairly close to Louisiana but they all make it what I call New Orleans style. I like mine with light brown roux without okra. I think I will make some this week since you can get the roux in a jar now. Chicken and Sausage gumbo. Nothing better on a chilly November day.

Posted by: polynikes at October 28, 2013 04:56 PM (m2CN7)

295 Re: Texas abortion ruling....Abortion will be much less of an issue in future elections--we're not living in a time of idealism and frankly if liberals want free rein to exterminate their offspring, I don't have the wherewithal to stand in their way.

GOP candidates know all inquiries are baited to produce liberal talking points.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 28, 2013 04:57 PM (Ec6wH)

296 Personally I think the GOP should do a very short, one sentence commercial: "Hey America, Go Fuck Yourself!".


PRO TIP: You may be a poor fit for a position in diplomacy or the advertising industry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2013 04:57 PM (8ZskC)

297
"“I don’t think there’s any doubt that Secretary Clinton would be a very

strong candidate,” McCain said of the former secretary of state, senator

from New York and first lady. “I don’t think there’s any doubt she has

widespread support. Her work as secretary of state, with the exception

of this issue of Benghazi — which isn’t going away — I think has been

outstanding ..."
---

Yeah, just look at all the diplomatic victories scored during the first Obama administration like . . . uhhh, and .... uh . . ..

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:58 PM (Hx5uv)

298 Did you see what you wacko-birds forced Lindsey Graham to say.

I’ll block all WH appointments until we get answers on Benghazi

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:58 PM (Pr6hk)

299 As surely as the Germans have been dictating to the Greeks et al, soon China will be dictating to us.


They'll want our women.
---

I can think of some I'd tried for some hot Asian chicks.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 28, 2013 04:59 PM (Hx5uv)

300 Her work as secretary of state, with the exception

of this issue of Benghazi — which isn’t going away — I think has been

outstanding ..."

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2013 04:54 PMPlease tell me again how the Establishment GOP plans to win in 2014 and 2016.He considers Egypt, Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and every other international clusterfuck "oustanding"?The inability to see someone tying your shoes together must be in the McCain gene pool

Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 04:59 PM (aTXUx)

301 I throw away anything I receive in the mail from the RNC.
I also received four letters from McConnell asking for money for his reelection. I put all in recycle bin.
As I have said before if I had to choose, I would keep Graham instead of McConnell. He's a sneaky bastard & I dint trust him. He's up for reelection next year, he stayed silent on us getting involved in Syria, until he saw that we wanted nothing to do with it.

I see that Graham is going to block all WH appointments & asked that Boehner appoint a special committee to investigate what really happened in Benghazi.


Where is Biden? He's been MIA for weeks.

Welcome back, Ace!

Posted by: CarolT at October 28, 2013 04:59 PM (z4WKX)

302 Lately, I've been in a secession state of mind. Just shove the blood-sucking layabouts into a geographical corner somewhere...... and finally build that damned fence when it'd do some good.

Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2013 05:01 PM (2NeaA)

303 Nood up!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2013 05:01 PM (8D0/R)

304 "PRO TIP: You may be a poor fit for a position in diplomacy or the advertising industry."


Yes, it's true. But the venting makes me feel better. And it's really all about feelings these days, isn't it? Why are democrats such racists?

Posted by: Chris M at October 28, 2013 05:02 PM (k3w9p)

305 Chicken and Sausage gumbo. Nothing better on a chilly November day.

Posted by: polynikes
........
Post the recipe! I would love to make gumbo, but I have no idea what the spices are. Andouille sausage?


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 05:02 PM (f9c2L)

306 Every time Lady Gaga wiggles her naked orifices on stage, I feel the value of my fucking dollar plummet into a chasm of doom.

Posted by: Fritz at October 28, 2013 05:04 PM (TKFmG)

307 Any kid willing to walk up the dark gravel drive in the creepy woods and who can successfully avoid the barbed wire and minefield to make it to my door gets a treat on Halloween.

Posted by: toby928 at October 28, 2013 05:05 PM (evdj2)

308 Any kid willing to walk up the dark gravel drive in the creepy woods and
who can successfully avoid the barbed wire and minefield to make it to
my door gets a treat on Halloween.



I like to make it hard for them too.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at October 28, 2013 05:06 PM (8ZskC)

309 Did you see what you wacko-birds forced Lindsey Graham to say.

I’ll block all WH appointments until we get answers on Benghazi

Srsly, Miss Lindsey said that? Dang.

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2013 05:07 PM (8lmkt)

310 284- I saw what McCain had to say about Hillary as SOS..I wouldn't read it. Do you think he's trying to be he running mate for VP?

Posted by: CarolT at October 28, 2013 05:07 PM (z4WKX)

311 Time to use the Dem playbook.

They won't, for two reasons: 1) The Republican Party "leadership" doesn't have the stomach for rough-and-tumble politics, and 2) They'd rather modify Obamacare to some degree to make it work somewhat, then take as much credit for that as possible.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 28, 2013 05:10 PM (vd7A8)

312 Yip,
That's right, he cannot decide what parts of laws to enforce. It is an abdication of his sworn duty.

Republicans should be making a big deal of it.

Posted by: CarolT at October 28, 2013 05:10 PM (z4WKX)

313 Government is an organized system for shifting the wealth of tribes not
in the majority coalition to tribes in the majority coalition. The only
thing I can say in defense of this aspect of government is that it is
slightly better than outright brigandry and tribal warfare.


IS is a little strong for apparently keeps devolving into.

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2013 05:19 PM (DL2i+)

314 "Reince Priebus"

My dyxlesia causes me to see that name as "Prince Rebus."

Posted by: iowaan at October 28, 2013 05:27 PM (T0dFH)

315 Money is a unit of measure. You exchanged your Life Energy for money.
Money = Life Energy

Posted by: Muddywood at October 29, 2013 12:23 AM (6l7jN)

316 The Health care debate has brought home to me that everybody but me used to have cheap policies. Insurance for my family > 800 a month. With ginormous copy that no one ever believes when I tell them.

If my insurance company can't make a profit off of me they are in the wrong business. Something tells me I will be in the 40% that gets to keep their insurance policy and I won't even want to.

Posted by: john at October 29, 2013 12:36 AM (8Ij2f)

317 I think of my income in terms of cars. If you're buying a Lexus for the government and your money beyond 'the bills' is a Fiat..............it's time to go Galt.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 29, 2013 08:43 PM (7v8o1)






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