Compare and Contrast

The "barricade" at the WWI memorial is just a single six-foot length of fence, barricading nothing at all, and a sign:


Now let's look at the WWII memorial.

Wow, it's almost like Fort Knox, if Fort Knox is where we guarded our precious stores of grass and concrete.

What's the difference?

Simple, really: There are Honor Flights of vets scheduled to see the latter but not the former.

Thus this isn't about "maintenance" or "saving money" or CPR, as the Park Service claimed yesterday. (That they had staff trained in CPR administration, who were not actually at the site, but I guess theoretically if someone stopped breathing they could take a cab and get there in 20 minutes or something.)

This is about the fact that a lot of people are coming to see the WWII Memorial, and the Administration wishes to hurt them.

Very few people are coming to see the WWI Memorial (sadly), and thus suddenly these worries about "CPR" and "maintenance" (of concrete) and "funding" no longer apply.

By the way, let's look at the funding for the WWII Memorial.

The National World War II Memorial was funded almost entirely by private contributions, as specified in Public Law 103-32. The campaign received more than $197 million in cash and pledges. Support came from hundreds of thousands of individual Americans, hundreds of corporations and foundations, veterans groups, dozens of civic, fraternal and professional organizations, states and one territory, and students in 1,200 schools across the country.

Donated and pledged funds were used to cover the total project costs of approximately $182 million. These costs include site selection and design, construction and sculpture, a National Park Service maintenance fee required by the Commemorative Works Act, groundbreaking and dedication ceremonies, fund raising, and the 11-year administrative costs of the project from its inception in 1993 through completion in 2004.

Remaining funds are held on deposit with the U.S. Treasury in a National WWII Memorial Trust Fund. The funds will be used by the American Battle Monuments Commission solely to benefit the World War II Memorial.

Hey Barack Obama -- you didn't fucking build that. Someone else did, and someone else is paying for its upkeep.

Via @mccormackjohn and @lochnar

Posted by: Ace at 12:43 PM



Comments

1 Obama is such a petty jerk!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2013 12:45 PM (vvueH)

2 He hates old people...and wants them to just go away.

Posted by: wheatie at October 02, 2013 12:45 PM (vqZWI)

3 These gubmint brownshirts need to GET THE FUCK OFF OUR LAWN.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:46 PM (4df7R)

4 Is there a record of anyone from the NPS ever performing CPR at a national monument?

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 02, 2013 12:46 PM (+lsX1)

5
My Comment from the last thread that needs reiterated and focused on by Ace

"Wait a minute. What kind of First Amendment activity might be exempted and allowed to go on.... hell even encouraged?


The sons of bitches wanted to close the memorials- but SPECIFICALLY EXPEMT AND ALLOW people to gather around them and protest the evil republicans in a super photo op. That's the only reason a first amendment exception could be in there.

Bastards. "

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 02, 2013 12:47 PM (t06LC)

6 if...IF this was widely reported he could bring obama down...IF

Posted by: getonwithit at October 02, 2013 12:47 PM (MbeEN)

7 More Guards Than Benghazi

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (ZPrif)

8 The Forbidden City of the God-King.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (hLRSq)

9 Not a constitutional scholar like Barry, but I am almost positive that peacably assembling is part of the 1st amendment. But I could be wrong.

Posted by: Joe at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (7pOq5)

10 So what's the term for "beyond surreal"?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (sFQyf)

11 I thought I'd briefly read on Teh Twitterz that Tom Hanks, who was a big part of getting the funding for the WWII memorial is standing with Il Douche and his Dr. Evil tactics.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (T0NGe)

12 From that picture, it looks like the people they're paying to water the lawn are on furlough.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (yETln)

13
This is a story that could break Obama.

Except it will never see the light of day.

Posted by: rd at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (D+lxs)

14 This should be front page news everywhere.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (GQ8sn)

15 This is what WWI veterans do when confronted by barricades...

http://bit.ly/1hl4PKc

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (gA69l)

16 Dammit, that should be "WWII veterans."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (gA69l)

17

And, how long did it take to put up the Border Fence?

Reply 1: Exactly.
Reply 2: Exactly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (IXrOn)

18
Wait until Obama figures out he can save money on nuclear weapon fail safes and cooling systems at the nuclear reactors. Hydraulic fluid in fighters is expensive I bet.

Posted by: Beagle at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (sOtz/)

19 Despicable. Nasty nasty little man.

Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (KXm42)

20 Dammit, that should be "WWII veterans."


Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (gA69l)


"Dog One is open!"
"We're in business!!!"

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (GQ8sn)

21 the oblabo administration was rolled by a bunch of 80 - 90 yr old veterans. Two days in a row. HAHAHAHAHAHHA!

Posted by: madamemayhem at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (S2RnE)

22 WWII? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (EGPJQ)

23 Jesus, Mary and Joseph what a petty, little bitch. Every time I think I can't hate these people any more they go and ratchet it up one more notch...

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (mPKiR)

24 Hey Barack Obama -- you didn't fucking build that.

This is what I like about reading Ace. Vigorous, well constructed arguments, bosomy undertones, with a subtle hint of profanity.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (U2UQk)

25 Somebody in the Army needs to find his gonads, and order out a couple of hundred troops in full combat gear, with loaded weapons, to act as escorts for the Honor Flight veterans. And if the Park police refuse them access, open fire on them. Probably all union slags, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (60Q+L)

26 disgusting

Posted by: thunderb at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (zOTsN)

27 Looks ripe for a Bonus March type protest

Posted by: brak at October 02, 2013 12:50 PM (M2qTM)

28 World War I vets don't make much noise. What a petulant, mewling manchild the president is. I am about ready to start flying the flag upside down.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 02, 2013 12:50 PM (32Ze2)

29

Only one with no integrity, and a spine made of jello would obey the orders to put up that barricade.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:50 PM (IXrOn)

30 Our government is spending extra money in order to try and hurt us.

Think about that for a minute.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 12:50 PM (QA8q2)

31
Don't forget that there was an order from the OMB to close this park, according to somebody on Tweeter, Steve Hayes, IIRC.

Sounds about right: TFG closes this park, but only for certain people, which is pretty illegal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 12:50 PM (0HooB)

32 Nicely done Ace.

Veritas liberabit vos

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 02, 2013 12:50 PM (/kU/5)

33 If there is not afull-blown and activecivil-disobedience today against these thugs there never will be. Barry Hussein Obama, tear down that wall! Today is the day. Wish I could be there, but alas, I am in the Midwest. Thinking about going to the Dunes National Lakeshore this weekend....

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (DHQv9)

34 The vets should pivot to the WWI memorial. The barricades following them would make for great theater

Posted by: Purp at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (9MLX+)

35 One small sliver of the monument belongs to me. I contributed money to build it, just like 10's of thousands of other Americans.

Posted by: Low Information Republican Squish at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (RFeQD)

36 The House should vote every hour, on the hour, to refund this.

And also scream its for the children.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (OWjjx)

37
Obama sends more reinforcements to WWII Memorial than to Benghazi.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (EGPJQ)

38 13

This is a story that could break Obama.

Except it will never see the light of day.

Posted by: rd at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (D+lxs)

And this.
Also fuck Tom Hanks with a syphilitic unicorn.

Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (KXm42)

39 "Dog One is open!"
"We're in business!!!"


Would've been great if one of the vets brought a bangalore.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (gA69l)

40 hey look the US finally found a border it's willing to defend

Posted by: yakov at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (9bLam)

41 @31
Exactly. As I said above, even the signs on the barricades acknowledge the monuments are available to protesters (US govt union workers anyone) and exclude anyone else.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (t06LC)

42
OMG Nooooo!!!! From the Washington Post Twitter feed:

Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (Hx5uv)

43 @woodruffbets Honor flight headed for the Lincoln and Korean memorials

@woodruffbets Breaching the barrier to the Vietnam memorial pic.twitter.com/jmR9BaH9LW

@woodruffbets The Vietnam wall barrier is less than compelling pic.twitter.com/CVFZ3DQ8a9

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (YjDyJ)

44 The vets should pivot to the WWI memorial. The barricades following them would make for great theater

They should make it an all-memorial monument tour. Let's see just how many barriacdes they can set up.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (GQ8sn)

45 Median US annual salary in 2010: $51,986

Median Federal worker salary in 2010: $83,679

Social justice!

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (T0NGe)

46 we were told fences didn't work

I guess that's so

Posted by: thunderb at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (zOTsN)

47 WW2 vets get another chance to topple a despotic dictator!

Posted by: Buck An Ear at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (zCDcA)

48

Obamacare was made to rid the nation of those pesky elderly folks with vision, wisdom, and a sense* of history; those with a track record of keeping us free and safe.


*!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (IXrOn)

49 Can someone tell me which days non-veterans are allowed to exercise their first amendment rights? I seem to have lost my guidebook.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (QA8q2)

50 It would be great to see veterans of all ages start to descend on DC to stand with these guys. Something like that would be a real game changer for us.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (g1DWB)

51 Just you wait, wingnuts. This isn't the end of it.

Tomorrow I shall direct the National Park Service and the Army Corps of Engineers to cover the Grand Canyon with a giant tarpaulin.

If only House Republicans authorized the spending I requested, this extraordinary and expensive measure wouldn't be necessary.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (SY2Kh)

52 Hey Barack Obama -- you didn't fucking build that. Someone else did, and someone else is paying for its upkeep.


I thought this yesterday, but wasn't sure enough to comment.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (h1D+w)

53 My guess is that Mexicans will still be allowed to visit the memorial.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (SO2Q8)

54 So none of those three "men" pictured had the stones to say, "Fuck, no, I'm not closing off the Memorial! It's fucking public land!" but instead just clicked their heels to follow orders?

Get the vets out of DC and nuke the site from orbit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (zF6Iw)

55 If you people don't stop pointing out reality, facts & and other raaaaacist contradictions to my agenda, I shall be forced to shut down the entire Internet, too.
That's a red line.
Don't call my bluff.
Where is my choom?

Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (4lqiH)

56 Somebody in the Army needs to find his gonads, and order out a couple of hundred troops in full combat gear, with loaded weapons, to act as escorts for the Honor Flight veterans. And if the Park police refuse them access, open fire on them. Probably all union slags, anyway.

Posse Comitatus!

Posted by: Every Lefty Buttrag that Blamed Bush for not Sending in Troops for Katrina Aid at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (yETln)

57 Those park police might want to find some protective gear.


It would be nice if a million more bikers rode into town to re-open the memorial.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (sFQyf)

58 Included in next House CR: Box of diapers and new pacifier for Obama.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (EGPJQ)

59 Mr. Obama, tear down this fence!

Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (RFeQD)

60 The vets should pivot to the WWI memorial. The barricades following them would make for great theater

Definitely.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (B/VB5)

61 I hate Obama and his minions with the heat of a billion suns.

What a petty, petulant little bitch he is.

The next time a lib tells me how Barry and Mooch support the military and their families, I'm going to tell that person to kindly fuck themselves with a barbed-wire-wrapped rotten pineapple.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (lVPtV)

62 17

And, how long did it take to put up the Border Fence?



Reply 1: Exactly.

Reply 2: Exactly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (IXrOn)

Thread winner.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (gA69l)

63 They should make it an all-memorial monument tour. Let's see just how many barriacdes they can set up.

Alinsky 101 -- overwhelm the system

Posted by: Purp at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (9MLX+)

64 Ah, the post I was waiting for. I thought you'd lead with this today. Great post, Ace.


Posted by: L, elle at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (0PiQ4)

65 OT: Who could have seen this coming?

Wonder why California is broke and the LA Unified School District struggles at its core mission of educating children? The sad saga of the iPad project demonstrates at least some of the issues. At an estimated cost of $1 billion, the LAUSD launched an effort to hand out “borrowed” iPads to its students in order to minimize textbook and material costs, but despite all of the money spent, their security program on the devices lasted hours in the hands of the students. Now the district will try to confiscate all of the iPads, throwing in the towel on the massive investment after just a few weeks:

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (Hx5uv)

66 Am I the only person extremely disappointed that seemingly all of these dipshits unquestioningly followed the dumbfuck order?

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (pgFQF)

67 Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!

Posted by: ryukyu at October 02, 2013 12:54 PM (C6XFd)

68 Hey Barack Obama -- you didn't fucking build that.

This is what I like about reading Ace. Vigorous, well constructed arguments, bosomy undertones, with a subtle hint of profanity.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (U2UQk)


All done out of love.
Love is all we need.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:54 PM (IXrOn)

69 As I mentioned on an earlier thread, there should be a mass showing of active duty military personnel from the Pentagon, Belvoir, Bolling, etc. to assist their comrades in arms.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 02, 2013 12:54 PM (Ec6wH)

70 The GOP could. Actually. F'n. Win. The media war using this one issue.

Holy cow! Can they do it?!

Its like getting the ball on the 1-yd line and only the msm standing in your way.

This is a big sloppy present from Obama...take it, party of stupid!!!!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 02, 2013 12:54 PM (gfQ4L)

71 WWII veterans but not Korean War veterans?
WWII veterans but not Vietnam War veterans?
WWII veterans but not Desert Storm veterans?
WWII veterans but not Operation Iraqi Freedom veterans?

Just how specific are Barry's orders?

Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 12:54 PM (HjPtV)

72 42
OMG Nooooo!!!! From the Washington Post Twitter feed:

Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

---

Anyone else read it as "care about" rather than "care for"?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (/Crba)

73 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90


The cornflakes are in the cupboard and the milk is in the fridge, Mr. President. Try not to burn the place down.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (hLRSq)

74 This has probably been mentioned here at the HQ already, but this was Rand Paul's reaction to this story yesterday on "Hannity":


“If Harry Reid and the President want to keep the parks closed— I mean did you read the story today? Some idiot in government sent goons out there to set up barricades, so they couldn’t see the monument. People had to spend hours setting up barricades where there are never barricades to prevent people from seeing the World War II monument because they’re trying to play a charade,” Rand (R-Ky.) said Tuesday on Fox News’s “Hannity.”


Damn right!

And while I got that passage from the Hot Air, it's actually from Politico. You know how I knew it was from a lefty outfit before I even checked? From the very next paragraph.


Paul’s attack[ /b] comes afterreportsthat a group of World War II veterans had to break down barricades to access the National World War II Memorial, one of the sites that was closed due to the government shutdown.


That's right. Pointing out the buffoonery and theatrical tactics of this asshole regime is an ATTACK.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (4df7R)

75 Cicero Kid, saw a news blurb this morning about park rangers kicking out campers in tents at Dunes Nat'l Park in indiana. Bet you can't get past the gates at the park entrance. Wonder what happens if you go to the State Park right next to it and try to walk down the beach to the Nat'l Park. Barriers on the beach? Ha!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (1M/xn)

76 Am I the only person extremely disappointed that seemingly all of these dipshits unquestioningly followed the dumbfuck order?

I guess I didn't expect anything better from drones. If you make waves, you lose the cushy.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (/kI1Q)

77 Just how specific are Barry's orders?

---

"Avoid bad optics."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (/Crba)

78 Dough-nuts?! I don't like foreign food!!

Posted by: C Montgomery Obama at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (Ec6wH)

79
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

Obama's dogfeels 'exposed'; hides under porch.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (EGPJQ)

80 A good place to start is with the name of those putting up the barricades . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (VjL9S)

81 Exactly. As I said above, even the signs on the barricades acknowledge
the monuments are available to protesters (US govt union workers anyone)
and exclude anyone else.


They should protest the barricading of the monument.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (SY2Kh)

82

See what happens when you select a target?

Posted by: alinsky ette at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (IXrOn)

83 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

Which 15? Will Michelle have to make her own bed?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (yETln)

84 hey look the US finally found a border it's willing to defend


This and the Benghazi line are gold.


Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (sFQyf)

85 They should make it an all-memorial monument tour. Let's see just how many barriacdes they can set up.

Alinsky 101 -- overwhelm the system


^^^^^
This.
Make this the hill the Dems die on.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (h1D+w)

86 TFG.

Posted by: Lauren at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (ELdpj)

87 Am I the only person extremely disappointed that seemingly all of these dipshits unquestioningly followed the dumbfuck order?

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (pgFQF)


Nope. Rotten government toadies, every last one.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (zF6Iw)

88 It's not the WW I memorial. It's the 2nd Division Memorial.

Posted by: BPSCG at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (YO6qw)

89 At this point I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Barry ordered Mt. Rushmore to be blown up, and have a sculpture of his jug-eared mug replacing it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 12:56 PM (lVPtV)

90 I didn't say where to build the dang fence.

Posted by: John McCain - D at October 02, 2013 12:57 PM (sFQyf)

91 Yep, the leftist ruling class media still has plenty of time to spin this as a victory for Obama.

King Obama graciously honors WW2 vets and allows them access to government memorial shutdown by the heartless GOP.

That's their story and they're sticking to it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 02, 2013 12:57 PM (ZPrif)

92 Michelle is proud again.

Posted by: Barkey O'Shakey at October 02, 2013 12:57 PM (0It32)

93 And still three more fucking years of this jackass...

Posted by: Kensington at October 02, 2013 12:57 PM (5rVux)

94 This is a story that could break Obama.

Except it will never see the light of day.

Posted by: rd at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (D+lxs)




MFM: It's like you read our mind

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 12:57 PM (1Jaio)

95 The House should vote every hour, on the hour, to refund this.

And also scream its for the children.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (OWjjx)



And, mention how WOMEN are not allowed, either.

Nor, gay, transgendered, black, hispanic...

War on everyone!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (IXrOn)

96 You know, the MFM is all up in arms about the "gov't shut down" when it's really the bureaucratic funding shut down.

When is a MFM type going to ask the obvious fucking question, why do we have to raise the debt ceiling? Why is debt increasing? Where is the plan to freaking kill the deficit make some money and pay the debt? How is Obobo going to reduce the deficit when he's outspending all previous administrations?

Those are the topics I'd like Clueless Charlie Gibson to tackle (is he even around any more?)

Posted by: Sphynx at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (OZmbA)

97 By the way, the house voted to fund the VA, requiring two thirds due to some kind of rule. It failed because all but 33 of the Dems voted against it. 100% Republican support. The Democratic Party, my sworn enemy.

Posted by: Bill at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (uvyrw)

98
Just how specific are Barry's orders?

That's an excellent question. I wonder if any Morons in the DC area who're out and about could tell us?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (0HooB)

99 King Barry the Barrier Builder: World War 2 vets. Typical white people

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (1Jaio)

100 Zero out the budget for the National Park Service.

They want to be petty fascists, let them fund it.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (VjL9S)

101 85 They should make it an all-memorial monument tour. Let's see just how many barriacdes they can set up.

Alinsky 101 -- overwhelm the system


^^^^^
This.
Make this the hill the Dems die on.

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Split them into groups then send each one to all of the same monuments in a different order.

Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, Arlington National Cemetery, etc.

Don't let them know which ones they're going to and when.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (/Crba)

102 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

Last I checked Obammy, Mooch and Mooch's mooch mother are all adults, and the daughters should be away at school. Why teh fuck do they need to be "taken care of"? Are they incapable of wiping their own asses?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (4df7R)

103 The President is a man who learns from experience and the principal lesson learned from Benghazi?...take threats from radicals seriously.

Posted by: Joe "I seriously believe 2016 is a completely reasonable goal for me" Biden at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (4eNxd)

104 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (Hx5uv)


AKA Smaller Government!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (IXrOn)

105 Delurking...


I had the honor and privilege to attend the opening ceremonies for the WWII Memorial during Memorial Day weekend 2004. As a newly separated Navy veteran, I was in total awe of being in the company of so many heroes. And it wasn't just WWII veterans that attended, but also veterans from the Korean War, Vietnam War and the first Gulf War. And everybody, of all shapes, sizes and colors, were brothers together...celebrating our proud military history. I was like a kid in a candy store, I was so excited. That experience will always be one of my favorites.


And now I see how this asshole and company treat this men and it pisses me the fuck off. Honestly, if I were to say what I really thought of Obama, his fat ass wife and the rest of the Democrats...I would be banned. I'm serious...I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY dislike (to put it mildly) these people.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (kVw0W)

106 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90



Who'll walk the dogs? Will TFG still get his fucking waffles? Will the Wednesday night cocktail parties be cancelled?


*rage headache*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (lVPtV)

107 If you make waves, you lose the cushy.

That's why you don't fight with your wife. Ooooh, cushy.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (yETln)

108 And while I got that passage from the Hot Air, it's actually from Politico. You know how I knew it was from a lefty outfit before I even checked? From the very next paragraph.
Paul’s attack[ /b] comes afterreportsthat a group of World War II veterans had to break down barricades to access the National World War II Memorial, one of the sites that was closed due to the government shutdown.
That's right. Pointing out the buffoonery and theatrical tactics of this asshole regime is an ATTACK.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (4df7R)


Take another look at that sentence, MWR. Not only is Paul's comment an "attack," but note how they snidely insinuate that nothing may have happened at all: "after reports that a group of. . ."

Yeah, "reports." Not "after WWII vets had to break down barricades," but "reports."

The next GOP nominee better take a fucking blowtorch to the media.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (zF6Iw)

109 so progressive administrations believe the govt has the right to shut down public lands for political goals.
why wouldn't they once they have control over other things like health care use some of those systems as they Do IRS Epa and other agencies services to pressure the People?


Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (nqBYe)

110 Just how specific are Barry's orders?

That's an excellent question. I wonder if any Morons in the DC area who're out and about could tell us?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (0HooB)


Speakin' of which, Jeff B was at the memorial this morning. Has anyone heard from him?

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (bCEmE)

111
Just another reminder, if my local news is right, the NPS did not close the Arch Grounds, only the Building.
The grounds are a National Park, yet remains "open" (you can't close the outdoors but you know what I mean.)

I kinda understand closing the main entrances to places like Yellowstone because you don't have the staff to clear the roads and such if there's a car breakdown or what have you (assuming the roads aren't actual through roads which is a different question altogether) but this is insanity of the highest order.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (GaqMa)

112 Are they incapable of wiping their own asses?

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Have you seen the size of Moochelle's ass lately?

I'm not sure that she could reach it, even with a rag-on-a-stick.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (/Crba)

113 Further praise for Ace (as faux wine snob)

Full-bodied post featuring a milky undercurrent of toast and an effervescent top note with hints of arugula, tree bark, and unicorn tears.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (U2UQk)

114 "Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90"
===============

As long as the royal douche administrator is still on duty -- the FLOTUS with a not-so-fresh feeling won't help things.

Posted by: Kensington at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (5rVux)

115 I am proud of President Obama and if I had a son he would look like Barry Obama.

Posted by: A Bag of AIDS and Maggot Infected Dog Shit at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (90aTA)

116
When is a MFM type going to ask the obvious fucking question, why do we have to raise the debt ceiling? Why is debt increasing? Where is the plan to freaking kill the deficit make some money and pay the debt? How is Obobo going to reduce the deficit when he's outspending all previous administrations?
------- ------ ------- ------- ------ -------- ----


Another tea bagger launched a racist assault on the president today....

Posted by: MFM at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (sOtz/)

117 The vets should paint a red line and walk over it.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (pgFQF)

118 Judicial Watch just filed a FOIA on the order to put up the barricades. Heh.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (B/VB5)

119 What kind of maintenance is required after you drive a forklift on to the sidewalk? Seems like pushing a wheelchair across it is more sensible.

Posted by: no good deed at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (k55Fc)

120 The nationalww2museum.org is open for business and would welcome any of the vets with open arms---free of charge.

Posted by: jeff at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (MOSsR)

121 The headline and picture at Drudge is outstanding! The Greatest Generation is teaching Americans, one last time, how to stand up to Fascism: Get in its face and never back down.

Posted by: jmel at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (t1oUn)

122 Will Michelle have to make her own bed?

How hard is it to tidy up a pile of straw?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (zF6Iw)

123 The House should vote every hour, on the hour, to refund this.



And also scream its for the children.



Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (OWjjx)





And, mention how WOMEN are not allowed, either.



Nor, gay, transgendered, black, hispanic...



War on everyone!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (IXrOn)



Maybe someone told Imam Obama that a Muslim group want to see the memorial

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (1Jaio)

124 Speakin' of which, Jeff B was at the memorial this morning. Has anyone heard from him?


He's either doing fine....


....or getting a nice wooden baton massage.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (GQ8sn)

125 Barak Obama - still an anti American traitorous fuckstick.

Choke on your wagyu you mother fucker.

Posted by: Evil Libertarian at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (mSg7b)

126
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

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Home Alone IV

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (SO2Q8)

127 I didn't know the NPS provided cpr. I think by maintenance they mean someone comes around and removes the trash bags. They could make it like many parks and put up a sign requesting that anything people bring into the area they take out with them,i.e., trash. It's not like they are obamaslobs who cover the ground with litter because they are lazy fucks.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (d0L02)

128 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.

However will the Republic endure?

Posted by: brak at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (iEoiA)

129 Wicked people.

Posted by: Powderhouse at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (Xv7f/)

130 might be hyperbole, but what assurances do I have as a citizen that Govt agencies aren't to be used for Political purpose for specific political Goals of a certain party?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (nqBYe)

131 Hey, wheatie - I'm old and I plan to outlive the scumbag -damn good think I'm not in Washington right now. I'm a Vietnam Era Vet and I'd go to all three of them if I could - even if I had to crawl over a damn barrier.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (Eq2MX)

132 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90

Why do I suspect that Reggie was deemed "essential"?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (OWjjx)

133
Obama is threatening to turn off the air unless Republicans surrender Ted Cruz.

Posted by: We need a Total Recall at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (bkTIc)

134 FTFG.

Posted by: Dang at October 02, 2013 01:01 PM (Hx2XA)

135 Are they incapable of wiping their own asses?



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Have you seen the size of Moochelle's ass lately?



I'm not sure that she could reach it, even with a rag-on-a-stick.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (/Crba)


That has to go through a truck wash. Big 18 wheeler truck wash

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 01:02 PM (1Jaio)

136 It would be great to see veterans of all ages start to descend on DC to stand with these guys. Something like that would be a real game changer for us.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2013 12:52 PM (g1DWB)



And a Tea Party Flash Mob!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:02 PM (IXrOn)

137 117 The vets should paint a red line and walk over it.

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I hope one gives a soliloquy to a park ranger to the effect of "Son, I eat breakfast a hundred yards away from thousands of Cubans trained to kill me. Don't think you can come in here with your Harvard mouth and faggoty white uniform, flash a badge, and make me nervous."

Posted by: Colonel Nathan Jessup at October 02, 2013 01:02 PM (/Crba)

138 Take another look at that sentence, MWR. Not only is Paul's comment an "attack," but note how they snidely insinuate that nothing may have happened at all: "after reports that a group of. . ."

Oh, I noticed that, too. I'm pretty sure I burst a few blood vessels in my eyeballs from the effort of trying to suppress my rage long enough to be able to type.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:02 PM (4df7R)

139 Are they incapable of wiping their own asses?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (4df7R)

Somebody has to launder Barry's "small smooth stones", doncha know?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2013 01:02 PM (60Q+L)

140 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.

I have been sitting on a bunch of returns that I need to amend for people. Might be a good time to start getting those out.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 01:02 PM (OWjjx)

141 Will the Wednesday night cocktail parties be cancelled?


*rage headache*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (lVPtV)


You're confused. Motown flies in on Wednesdays and parties with Moochelle and Barry.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 01:03 PM (d0L02)

142 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.

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Semi-rhetorical question - Is the group of people who harassed the Tea Party groups considered "essential"?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:03 PM (/Crba)

143 Boehner, we all knew deep down he was all wrapping and no package...


When all this airs out he will have plenty of time to get a tan..

Posted by: Jet Built Around Cannon at October 02, 2013 01:03 PM (4L2D1)

144 Zero out the budget for the National Park Service.

How about the OMB? Rumor is they ordered this.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 01:03 PM (T0NGe)

145 LET IT FUCKING BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, but this is an all caps fucking moment.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 02, 2013 01:03 PM (tVTLU)

146 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.


So sad...awwww.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 01:03 PM (GQ8sn)

147 As long as the royal douche administrator is still on duty

They use a pressure washer with a V-12 engine for Moochelle. Talk about carbon footprints.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (B/VB5)

148 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90



Who'll walk the dogs?



The whole WH is fenced & gated. Open the back door &
LET THE DOGS OUT!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (h1D+w)

149
75 Cicero Kid, saw a news blurb this morning about park rangers kicking out campers in tents at Dunes Nat'l Park in indiana. Bet you can't get past the gates at the park entrance. Wonder what happens if you go to the State Park right next to it and try to walk down the beach to the Nat'l Park. Barriers on the beach? Ha!




CONFIDENTIAL: WAR PLAN
Marine assault. A beach landing. There is a new moon on 5 October.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (DHQv9)

150 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.


but they will keep the ONE that will be looking into Ben Carlson's tax forms?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (nqBYe)

151 Obama HAS to cave by Friday or this memorial occupation shit's gonna mushroom over the weekend into tens of thousands.

They'll be running wild doing all sorts of embarrassing things, like picking up trash, weeding flower beds, some of the more militant will even be showing up with {gasp} lawn mowers and weed whackers.

Posted by: Purp at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (9MLX+)

152 Median US annual salary in 2010: $51,986

Median Federal worker salary in 2010: $83,679

Social justice!

Posted by: AmishDude


And that doesn't include the non-monetary benefit of job security of a public sector job.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (1C7lu)

153 Ransomware Government

Posted by: Chris at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (gO3Ok)

154 It's a damn good thing Navy SEALs killed Bin Laden to ensure Obama would be able to capitalize on it during the 2012 campaign.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (Ec6wH)

155 "He hates old people...and wants them to just go away."

Hey, we're working on it!

Posted by: Obamacare Death Panel at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (VrNoa)

156 So is Reggie Love essential or non-essential?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (sFQyf)

157

Where's CK on the "changed the narrative," now?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (IXrOn)

158 So who's going to sponsor a bill to defund all federally assisted golf courses for the duration? If Barry doesn't have one of those little putt cups in the Oval Office, he should consider getting one soon.

Posted by: Fritz at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (UzPAd)

159 (second attempt -- internet ate my previous)

who gets the photo credit?

Posted by: Winds of Change at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (TvGg2)

160 If you file quarterlies or have an extension due on Oct 15, you can be damn sure the IRS agents checking that are considered "essential."

Posted by: brak at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (iEoiA)

161 When are they shutting down the interstate highway system? After all, it is the property of the federal government too.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (QA8q2)

162 I think the MLK and FDR memorials on the far side of the Tidal Basin are closed, too, probably because those statues and stones don't work without a government budget. Let the revolution begin there.

Posted by: Tantor at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (659DL)

163 They'll be running wild doing all sorts of embarrassing things, like picking up trash, weeding flower beds, some of the more militant will even be showing up with {gasp} lawn mowers and weed whackers.

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I guess they will send in the Purple People Beaters to ensure that no scabs do the work that brothers in good standing are paid to not do.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (/Crba)

164 Relax, relax.

The White House staffer who stocks the Press Room with juice boxes and fruit snacks was deemed "essential".
So, no chance Luke Russert will lose weight during the shutdown.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (OWjjx)

165 Please add pics of the storming by the vets.

Posted by: dogfish at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (nsOJa)

166 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.


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Phew....Lois Lerner dodged a bullet there, huh?

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (bCEmE)

167 If this is the stuff that these Park Rangers are made of, then fuck them!
Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.

Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (IkYZ3)

168 Does anyone know how today's group of Honor Flight Vets did? How their visit went?

Posted by: Moccachino Babe at October 02, 2013 01:06 PM (r2PLg)

169 It's GRASS. And it's OUR LAWN.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at October 02, 2013 01:06 PM (6KSs1)

170 So, a wall on the southern border is silly and barbarous, but this makes perfect sense to the President and crew.

If this ends up being the PR disaster that it looks like it is becoming, will the President throw some park Ranger under the bus himself or will that insufferable fuck Jay Carney do the honors?

Posted by: ed gibbon at October 02, 2013 01:06 PM (4eNxd)

171
Remaining funds are held on deposit with the U.S. Treasury in a National WWII Memorial Trust Fund

-- And those funds are not there, sorta like the S.S.lock box

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 02, 2013 01:06 PM (R8hU8)

172 161 When are they shutting down the interstate highway system? After all, it is the property of the federal government too.

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Any federal employee trying that at rush hour around here will be found with a bumper up their ass.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (/Crba)

173 So is Reggie Love essential or non-essential?

He's double-essential, given he's allegedly both the Emperor's consort and his choom dealer.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (B/VB5)

174 CONFIDENTIAL: WAR PLAN
Marine assault. A beach landing.

There is a new moon on 5 October.


The chair is against the wall.
John has a long mustache. Over.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (h1D+w)

175 I want to Thank President Obama for all his support in recent days. thank You Sir.................

Posted by: Iosif Vissarionovich Stalin at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (90aTA)

176 Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.
Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (IkYZ3) Sounds better in the original German.

Posted by: Beagle at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (sOtz/)

177 173 So is Reggie Love essential or non-essential?

He's double-essential, given he's allegedly both the Emperor's consort and his choom dealer.

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The Royal Penis is now clean!

Posted by: Reggie Love, Obama's Personal Bather at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (/Crba)

178 151
Obama HAS to cave by Friday or this memorial occupation shit's gonna mushroom over the weekend into tens of thousands.

They'll be running wild
doing all sorts of embarrassing things, like picking up trash, weeding
flower beds, some of the more militant will even be showing up with
{gasp} lawn mowers and weed whackers.


Posted by: Purp at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (9MLX+)



I just blew tea through my nose. Thanks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 01:07 PM (lVPtV)

179 The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.


Excuse me, but isn't the IR-fucking-S a major player in the infernal 404care rollout? I'd assume that those employees directly attached to 404care would therefore be considered ESSENTIAL for its debut. So just how many fucking useless, waste of space mouthbreathers does the IRS employ?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (4df7R)

180 Count the construction cranes around DC skyline. Welcome to parasiteville.

Posted by: redenzo at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (vx61Q)

181 If the Obama Adminstration had fortified Benghazi against terrorists as
diligently as it is fortifying the WWII memorial against our deserved WWII vets, at least 4 Americans might not have been left to slaughter.

And obviously these guys don't do "stand down". Hats off.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (rznx3)

182 "Hey Barack Obama -- you didn't fucking build that."

I thought Ace destroyed his entire stockpile of F-bombs. Guess he kept a few away from the prying eyes of the UN for things that really pissed him off.

Welcome the fuck home, Ace.

Posted by: Jaws at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (4I3Uo)

183 I'm glad to come here and read the humorous take on all this because when I think of the foreign beaches these magnificent bastards had to storm only to have to storm barricades back home seven decades later, I get really fucking pissed off.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (sFQyf)

184 This was an operatin by a low level Park employee in Arlington and the President first found out about it when Reggie read it to him from the newspaper.

Posted by: Future Jay Carney at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (OWjjx)

185 If the Barry-cades are still up this weekend, I'm going to DC on a monument tour this Saturday. If any other Morons are planning to do the same, we should meet up. (I saw this suggested earlier, but didn't see anything more about it.)

Posted by: shillelagh at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (hRzu2)

186 Lois Lerner dodged a bullet



Damn.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (h1D+w)

187 Dammit! The optics on this could make the dems fold. If the GOP can't win anything decent from this issue they are done. They have demonstrated, again, their complete incompetence.

Win this!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (gfQ4L)

188 Drudge just posted the Omaha Beach photo. Heh.

Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (HjPtV)

189 Purp that was great! Thread winner!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (1M/xn)

190 My US Representative, Marcy Kaptur (Disgusting) has the balls to have a picture of an Honor Flight group, that she used for a photo op, up on her official webpage. Maybe the blue collar voters around here who keep putting Dems back in office will finally realize how evil these people are.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (WD0KF)

191
Has everyone seen this?
http://tinyurl.com/qcyqm4t

Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (xWW96)

192 The men that made it possible can't even see it. Obama is such a loser.

Posted by: rplat at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (HkjaF)

193 Did they also barricade the Vietnam Memorial?

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (eKnFR)

194 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90


The 24/7 on-call movie projectionist finally gets a day off?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (/kI1Q)

195 At this point, I'm ready for the great political divorce in this country. Let's just get it over with.

Posted by: Mr. Mean at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (Tlix5)

196 WWII vets have a lot of practice putting arrogant fascists in their proper place. The fact Obama chose them, of all groups, to go after is just another sign of his complete ignorance of anything having to do with the US, its people or its history.

Posted by: Genghis Con at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (qYvEa)

197 So just how many fucking useless, waste of space mouthbreathers does the IRS employ?


83,000 + 9.3%

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (h1D+w)

198 I always knew that Ranger Smith was a no-good asshole.

Posted by: Yogi Bear at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (zF6Iw)

199 170 So, a wall on the southern border is silly and barbarous, but this makes perfect sense to the President and crew.

Brilliant! We're evil monsters for wanting to secure our border, but TFG has no problem erecting fencing to keep veterans and other Americans from honoring those who served in WWII.

The arrogance and hatred that this administration has are simply mind blowing.

Posted by: Brewer at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (eV1I0)

200
Think about the Park Police here. They just knuckled under and obeyed a stupid order.

Now then, someone tell me again that if the CinC decides to order the police to round up his political enemies at gunpoint, the police will refuse to obey?


Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (F3IIA)

201 Obama sends more reinforcements to WWII Memorial than to Benghazi.

--

Twitter worthy. Hot damn, I hate this president.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (XB5Ak)

202 I went to a gun rights rally in Tallahassee years ago and struck up a conversation with one of the state police assigned.

As the event ended, the cop said it was the most respectful protest he'd ever seen. Not a single flower was trampled, and there was ZERO trash on the ground. He said typical protests at the state capitol entailed total replanting of the flower beds and massive trash cleanup. We left the place in better shape than we found it.


Posted by: Purp at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (9MLX+)

203 Drudge just posted the Omaha Beach photo. Heh.
Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (HjPtV)


The Vets just landed on Obama Bitch.

Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (m2CN7)

204
"Obama HAS to cave by Friday or this memorial occupation shit's gonna mushroom over the weekend into tens of thousands."

The story is already being reported (just heard ABC news) and there is no blame put on Obama. Some unknown entity closed the memorial but veterans were allowed to go in, so everyone's happy.

Remember, it never matters what the facts are, only how the story is told.

Posted by: jwest at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (u2a4R)

205 If this is the stuff that these Park Rangers are made of, then fuck them!
Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.


Easy for you to say when it's not your job on the line.

They weren't following an order to open fire on civilians. They were ordered by their employer to put up the fences, so they did. The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)

206 guess they will send in the Purple People Beaters to ensure that no scabs do the work that brothers in good standing are paid to not do.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (/Crba)


*SEETHE*

I saw a coworker in the hall earlier proudly wearing his fucking purple goon shirt. Holy fuck, I almost had a stroke.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:11 PM (4df7R)

207 They weren't following an order to open fire on civilians. They were
ordered by their employer to put up the fences, so they did. The blame
lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their
jobs.



They were just following orders.

Got it.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 01:11 PM (GQ8sn)

208 Hey, this is interesting. If the NIST site wasn't turned off I'd look further into it.

All government systems must pass NIST 800-53 security testing, which include disaster recovery and dealing with capacity issues. Apparently the NIST director testified at some point that HHS was not being granted an exception for the exchanges.

So if the exchanges are crashing like this, it means they failed their security testing, or were never tested. They should not have received their ATO (Authority to Operate).

Now I wouldn't go so far as to say someone broke the law by allowing the sites to go live, but they clearly violated a very strong policy framework that this administration has been shoving down everyone's throats everywhere else.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 02, 2013 01:11 PM (wCEyv)

209 Very few people are coming to see the WWI Memorial (sadly),


I am ashamed to admit that I've never been there.


Something about that "except for 1st Amendment" keeps niggling at the back of my mind. Why? Because it sounds like the holding in some SCOTUS case. Maybe, maybe not, but I feel like I should know the import of it.


As far as the WWII monument, I say that everyone who can get there goes there and asserts their First Amendment right to stand there and protest this act of Shutdown Theater. That is clearly political speech.


I really do think TFG thought there would be crying vets blaming the Republicans for this. Yeah, that knowing nothing about the military thing? That can come back to bite you. Hard.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 02, 2013 01:12 PM (VtjlW)

210 "At this point, I'm ready for the great political divorce in this country. Let's just get it over with."

Preach it, brother.

Posted by: Jaws at October 02, 2013 01:12 PM (4I3Uo)

211 We now know which IRS workers got furloughed, from Drudge:

IRS collecting money, not sending refunds during shutdown...

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 01:12 PM (Hx5uv)

212 Remaining funds are held on deposit with the U.S. Treasury in a National WWII Memorial Trust Fund

-- And those funds are not there, sorta like the S.S.lock box

Posted by: Velvet Ambition


Big.F'ing.Mistake.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2013 01:12 PM (1C7lu)

213 Now I wouldn't go so far as to say someone broke the law by allowing the sites to go live, but they clearly violated a very strong policy framework that this administration has been shoving down everyone's throats everywhere else.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 02, 2013 01:11 PM (wCEyv)
-
I think they intended them to fail

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 01:13 PM (QA8q2)

214
The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.

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I don't recall that defense working at Nuremberg.

Something those vets down in DC today could probably explain to you.

Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 01:13 PM (F3IIA)

215
IRS is shutdown.

Even as a CPA, I wouldn't mind, except they are saying their furlough does not extend the October 15 deadline for filing tax returns on extensions.

In other words, the government is going to monetarily penalize people for their own shutdown.

Posted by: Marybeth at October 02, 2013 01:13 PM (Ks0w4)

216 I saw a coworker in the hall earlier proudly wearing his fucking purple goon shirt.

Casual Wednesday?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 01:13 PM (/kI1Q)

217 Drudge just posted the Omaha Beach photo. Heh.
Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (HjPtV)


The Vets just landed on Obama Bitch.


**Threadwinner!**

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:13 PM (h1D+w)

218 They were just following orders.

Got it.


Don’t be more silly then the President. This is concrete and grass, not genocide.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 01:14 PM (QF8uk)

219 They are fucking with the bull now, I double dog dare them to keep this shit up. They are going to get the fucking horn big time. Picking on old people especially war vets is frowned upon.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 02, 2013 01:14 PM (nTgAI)

220 The vets should paint a red line and walk over it.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (pgFQF)


I LOL'd!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:14 PM (IXrOn)

221 ace,

Probably already pointed out but that isn't the World War I memorial, it is The Second Division memorial.

Posted by: RWC at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (fWAjv)

222 "Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90"

What will happen if it rains? Who will open the umbrella?

Posted by: Brown Line at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (VrNoa)

223 Has everyone seen this?http://tinyurl.com/qcyqm4t
Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (xWW96)

Great move! I also like the use of the term Barrycade in one of the comments. Have to keep that for future use.

Posted by: tofer732 at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (z3MpN)

224 I'll be damn.....


@ABC

World War II veterans prove unstoppable, enter closed memorial again

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (bCEmE)

225 They were just following orders.
Got it.


Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)

226 193 Did they also barricade the Vietnam Memorial?

Yes, as well as the Korean War Memorial, but neither as heavily as the WWII Memorial.

@woodruffbets The Vietnam wall barrier is less than compelling pic.twitter.com/CVFZ3DQ8a9

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (YjDyJ)

227 Next, massive beat down on the vets from the NPS ala their response to Occupy DC. Oh wait...

Posted by: scruboak at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (V40IZ)

228 OT: what the fuck is this shit?
http://is.gd/07mrpy

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (/kI1Q)

229 follow orders, comrade.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (nqBYe)

230 "The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs."

That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever read.

Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (IkYZ3)

231 tinyurl.com/nqwpqe6

Posted by: scruboak at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (V40IZ)

232 Drudge just posted the Omaha Beach photo. Heh.

I emailed links on this matter to my friends this morning under the title

From Omaha to Obama

Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (hO9ad)

233 Another fence to slip under!

Posted by: Wachel Corrie at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (8CpOJ)

234 You guys, you have to understand that Obama puts his mom jeans on one butler at a time, just like everybody else.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (T0NGe)

235 Okay this gal is with a group of Honor Vets today--

don't think they have reached the WW II Memorial yet....

but there is this so far from her twitter feed.


Andrea Plunkett ‏@AndreaPlunkett 34m
HUGE crowd to greet the vets when we arrived. They took the time to shake everyone's hand pic.twitter.com/wJ5AJZrvpb
View photo
Andrea Plunkett ‏@AndreaPlunkett 35m
We're heading to the Air Force memorial. Unfortunately we can't see the Marine Corps memorial because the road is completely barricaded.

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (r2PLg)

236 Don’t be more silly then the President. This is concrete and grass, not genocide.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 01:14 PM (QF8uk)
An illegal order is an illegal order. No one is suggesting the Park Polizei be hanged for putting up the barricades, but demoting or firing them me be appropriate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (60Q+L)

237 This is the point I made yesterday. They closed down the memorial to living veterans.

They allocated their resources to do the most harm.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (DmNpO)

238
What will happen if it rains? Who will open the umbrella?

Posted by: Brown Line


It's cool. It's cool. NOAA turned off the clouds.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2013 01:17 PM (1C7lu)

239 Doesn't the National Park Service have something better to do than barricade WWII vets from visiting their memorial? Isn't there a "Muslims are Tops in Advancing Womens' Rights" web video to be made?

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2013 01:17 PM (XB5Ak)

240 If this is the stuff that these Park Rangers are made of, then fuck them! Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.Easy for you to say when it's not your job on the line.They weren't following an order to open fire on civilians. They were ordered by their employer to put up the fences, so they did. The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)

Now I see why everyone has been busting you balls. Crystal clear.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 02, 2013 01:17 PM (nTgAI)

241 The #1 morning radio program in California hit this story as if it had teats and ass. And no, it ain't Limbaugh.

Nice catch, ace. Beat everyone to the punch by 24hrs.

Posted by: 13times at October 02, 2013 01:17 PM (fGPLK)

242 "Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90"

What will happen if it rains? Who will open the umbrella?


Otherwise the turkey will drown!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:17 PM (h1D+w)

243 How hard is it to tidy up a pile of straw?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (zF6Iw)



haha

for some reason, all I could envision was a buck-toothed jackass

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:17 PM (IXrOn)

244 Heather, coming from someone with 6 ex-teachers in the immediate family, all I can say is 'homeschool or private school'. That is the advice I received from those 6 ex-teachers who quit or retired over the past few years.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (QA8q2)

245 Come on, guys. I have a shallow climate controlled koi pond and it's dangerous. (Thanks for all the prayers I received after the electricity went out after Hurricane Sandy, btw.) One of those vets could ride his scooter into the shallow pond.

Posted by: Jerry Rivers at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (U2UQk)

246 OT: what the fuck is this shit?
http://is.gd/07mrpy

***

Because, you know.... Oprah

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (DmNpO)

247 I don't recall that defense working at Nuremberg.

Something those vets down in DC today could probably explain to you.


OK, you got me.

The murder of six million people is very much on the same moral plane as keeping people out of a park.

I apologize for failing to comprehend the gravity of the situation, imbecile.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

248 An illegal order is an illegal order. No one is suggesting the Park Polizei be hanged for putting up the barricades,



Well, not everyone...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (h1D+w)

249 Maybe someone told Imam Obama that a Muslim group want to see the memorial

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 01:00 PM (1Jaio)



Russian intelligence probably dropped that one on them.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (IXrOn)

250 There is also suppose to be a group of Honor Flight Vets going today from Chicago who said they were determined to visit the WW II Memorial.

Local Chicago channels reported their flight departure but I don't think they have arrived yet--they have a twitter account and it doesn't have details of the visit yet.

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (r2PLg)

251 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 01:19 PM (/PCJa)

252 They were just following orders. Got it.Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)

I hope your boss doesn't ask you for a hummer

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 02, 2013 01:19 PM (nTgAI)

253 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 01:19 PM (/PCJa)

254 The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.

You might want to consider rewording that.

Posted by: Yogi Bear at October 02, 2013 01:19 PM (zF6Iw)

255 The murder of six million people is very much on the same moral plane as keeping people out of a park.

I apologize for failing to comprehend the gravity of the situation, imbecile.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

who went in and fought for those people?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:19 PM (nqBYe)

256 114 . . . As long as the royal douche administrator is still on duty -- the FLOTUS with a not-so-fresh feeling won't help things.
*
*
Thanks for that image! I was eating lunch!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2013 01:19 PM (BDU/a)

257 "The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs."

The ones doing their jobs could say, "We put up the barricades like you wanted. What's that? We only put up one, and it's across the street behind a bush? Gosh, we'll look right into that.

"What's that? We were supposed to tie the barricades together to make them more impassable? Shucks, we just didn't have the zipties to do that, and the CAUTION tape kept breaking.

"What's that? We're not supposed to let anyone near the memorial except on 1st amendment business? Well they all said they were here on first amendment business, so I let them by."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (4df7R)

258 who didn't fight for those people?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (nqBYe)

259 Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90



1 of the 15 is Mr. Teleprompter.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (IXrOn)

260 I just got back from the dentist and I can't feel my upper lip at all.

I wish I could find a way to make that metaphorical about the WW2 Memorial battle shaping up. But my clever centers are numb, too, I guess.

Last I saw before the novocaine was we had a guy at the Memorial and a flight of heroes was coming in. I'll check above for updates.

Considering what a horrorible monstrosity this action is, working so hard to stop vets visiting their memorial, I'm finding this all rather entertaining.

Right up until the cuffs and blood.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (U13jb)

261
Story out that the NPS is closing the tour bus turnaround(which is National Park Service land) at Mt Vernon (which is privately owned and operated).
Because the middle class!
Next step: the NPS barricades the federally owned parkways aroundDC (they are NPS land, federally andnot state maintained,major commuter routes)?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (AVz13)

262 I really hate him. I mean, have we ever seen such a petulant child in the white house? I just...I need to walk away from the keyboard because my head is about to explode in rage.

Posted by: Lauren at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (ELdpj)

263 Don't know if this was reported in an earlier thread:

Tom Clancy, Best-Selling Novelist of Military Thrillers, Dies at 66

http://tinyurl.com/pbgbz8v

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2013 01:20 PM (XvHmy)

264 Somebody should inform the dick licker in chief that he has just fucked with the most informed voters, all belonging to various organizations, all with time on their hands.

Posted by: Bill at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (uvyrw)

265 who fought for those "others"?



who didn't fight for those "others'?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (nqBYe)

266 if you don't think these Park Police should be stripped naked and flogged on the steps of the Capital, then youre just a goddamned stinking RINO!

Posted by: SO ANGRY TRUE CON at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (9bLam)

267 OK, you got me.

The murder of six million people is very much on the same moral plane as keeping people out of a park.

I apologize for failing to comprehend the gravity of the situation, imbecile.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

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Go fuck yourself, you shit-eating worm.

Yeah, it's perfectly acceptable in your America to just blindly follow orders without one fucking independent thought as to what you're being ordered to do.

Little wonder you stand in solidarity with the RINO pond scum.

Assmunch.

Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (F3IIA)

268
OT: what the fuck is this shit?
http://is.gd/07mrpy

***

Yeah, that's what we need especially if it can replace math and logic.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (Hx5uv)

269 Don’t be more silly then the President. This is concrete and grass, not genocide.


Yesterday, ace put up a twitter link saying the memorial is open 24 hours a day to visitors, 7 days a week. It doesn't "close".

The fact that none of these Park Police understands their own rules is telling.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (GQ8sn)

270 Barack Obama - he hate old people, ya'll

Posted by: Kanyay West at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (8CpOJ)

271 I feel so...vigilante. Feels liberating.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (n/+FT)

272 If I were a Park Ranger and some dickwad gave me an order to barricade a public place like the WWII memorial, for nakedly political purposes, I would tell them to go fuck themselves, disrobe on the spot and burn my uniform.

But, that's just me.

Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (IkYZ3)

273 Ugh never mind...

I clicked on the photo in the twitter feed.

I thought she meant there was a HUGE crowd to greet the Honor Flight vets at the airport---

it was at the World War II Memorial--

it looks like they made it in!

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (r2PLg)

274 237
This is the point I made yesterday. They closed down the memorial to living veterans.



They allocated their resources to do the most harm.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (DmNpO)

Against people who *had* to fight in a war they had *no part* in starting, for the very survival of the free world.

Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (KXm42)

275 Jeef B srsly thank you for going.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (nqBYe)

276 They were just following orders. Got it.


Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)


You must have a very interesting job if your employer regularly orders you to close off publicly-owned property to its owners.

Posted by: Yogi Bear at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (zF6Iw)

277 That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever read.

I'm very glad to hear that you've led a sufficiently sheltered life such that you've never had to undertake a course of action your employer directed you to take though you disagreed with it.

Congrats, you.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)

278
It's cool. It's cool. NOAA turned off the clouds.

Wait until later this afternoon when they turn the sun off. The wind is already calm...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (0HooB)

279 Jeffb*! you'd think i could do better.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (nqBYe)

280 The rangers and enforcement officers didn't have to disobey an order from their superiors. They could have done what many have done in the past, specifically unions. They could have called in sick or implemented a slow down. These are Federal workers who have more employment protection than anyone in the private sector. They are either supporters of the Democrats / left or they are low information dupes also known as useful idiots.

Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (m2CN7)

281 >>Unfortunately we can't see the Marine Corps memorial because the road is completely barricaded.

Hmm. I'm betting the Marine veterans aren't gonna be happy about this.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (g1DWB)

282 (back now, btw...good times. Sadly, very much behind the eight ball with work now because of the time I took out to go all Tea Party Patriot on Obama's tinpot fascist bullshit shutdown theatrics, so can't really chat now.)

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:23 PM (n/+FT)

283 I know we sometimes envy the tactics of the left and I understand the arguments in favor of copying them. But the White House’s tactic of going over the top here isn’t working. Copying it is a bad idea.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 01:23 PM (QF8uk)

284 go along to get along is what got US here.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:23 PM (nqBYe)

285 I had a friend who was a WW2 veteran. He passed away not too long ago. He was with the third army unit that freed the Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp in Austria. He said that they were responsible for guarding the SS prisoners. They circled them with one rail of barbed wire. A couple walked over the line and were shot down instantly. He said that they would throw one horse in for 15,000 of those assholes to fight over. If it had been up to the men in his unit they would have shot every last one of them and been done with it.

He was a nice, kind and gentle man, but he and his pals saved western civilization. They don't take shit from anyone.
That generation had nerves if steel and would face down anyone. The generations that followed, not so much.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 02, 2013 01:23 PM (CXr4y)

286 i got mine! shut up don't make me look hard at what it took!

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (nqBYe)

287 Just think...

When the govt takes control of our Healthcare...President Bitchy Breaches can put up barricades at our hospitals too.

Posted by: wheatie at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (vqZWI)

288 FWIW, today's excitement truly put the "civil" in "civil disobedience." A more well-behaved and polite group of unruly rioting fanatics you will never see. Fun stuff!

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (n/+FT)

289 I apologize for failing to comprehend the gravity of the situation, imbecile.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

It's on the same continuum, imbecile.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (/kU/5)

290 281 >>Unfortunately we can't see the Marine Corps memorial because the road is completely barricaded.

Hmm. I'm betting the Marine veterans aren't gonna be happy about this.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (g1DWB)


Hell NO!

Tear Down That Barricade!!!


Just found this now in her twitter feed--


Yes!!!


Andrea Plunkett ‏@AndreaPlunkett 1h
We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left.




Heh. Thank you Park Rangers!

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (r2PLg)

291 Thank you for going, JeffB! I know you and I don't always agree, but your time spent there is appreciated by all.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (4df7R)

292 alright, i'm at hair pulling stage (mine) so i'm out to the garden.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (nqBYe)

293 I'm very glad to hear that you've led a sufficiently sheltered life such that you've never had to undertake a course of action your employer directed you to take though you disagreed with it.

Congrats, you.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)

Now who is being disingenuous? To use your own faulty logic against you, there's a world of difference between ordering Coke instead of Pepsi for the office fridge and willingly acting under color of law to barricade an open air park against 90-year-old vets.


Jerk.

Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (F3IIA)

294 Let's dissect the picture. Three guys. One guy holds the plastic ties. His job is apparently to pass a plastic tie to the person who slips the tie through the opening and secures it. The third guy is in charge of making sure that first guy passes the plastic tie to the second guy.

Based on my decades of knowledge in motivation and productivity, I'd venture one guy, fearful of losing his job, could find room in his pocket for some plastic ties. In a capitalistic system, that is.

But Nancy Pelosi can't find one dollar to cut out of the budget, no-sir-ee.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (U2UQk)

295 Zero will get himself appointed to his Zerocare death panel to get himself a little revenge on these old boys.

Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (xWW96)

296 Because, you know.... Oprah


Will no one rid me of this stupid bint?

Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (KXm42)

297 Hey, Boo-Boo boy! Help me pull off this sock!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (zF6Iw)

298 The story is already being reported (just heard ABC news) and there is
no blame put on Obama. Some unknown entity closed the memorial but
veterans were allowed to go in, so everyone's happy

-----

Saw pretty much the same thing on CNN. They found a few vets that complained about the shutdown, but not Obama or the GOP. CNN, of course, is slanting this as vets blaming the GOP.

I

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (YmPwQ)

299 Andrea Plunkett ž@AndreaPlunkett 1h We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left.

YES! THAT'S what I'm talking about! "Hey, what could we do? We were on break when they came along."

Good for them!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (4df7R)

300 So, Mr. 39% popularity is going to stake his budget fight on denying public park access to WWII vets.

Is this:

a. tone-deaf stupidity.
or
b. a last fuck you to the "old" americans who should just die off already because they're old and white and not really hip to hope and change?

Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (QxSug)

301 Well, I guess this is the pivot to jobs that we've all been waiting for?

Posted by: akula51 at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (4p5/2)

302 They were just following orders.
Got it.

Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)

Thanks for your support.

Posted by: mortgage ghost signers, the London whale, MS13 soldiers, anyone in Hamas, and of course the SS at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (hO9ad)

303 I bet those little fascist pricks at the Park Service feel real proud of their fucking jobs today. "Hurry up and block the old WWII vets!"

When we have uniformed people in this government willing to do that to old men, then this government is truly lost.

Why not call in sick, or claim your back is hurting for the day. There is not a fucking chance I would work on that barricade.

Fucking brown shirt thugs.

Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (iuY0Y)

304 "Congrats, you."
Coming from you as it does, means nothing.

Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (IkYZ3)

305 The ones doing their jobs could say, "We put up the barricades like you
wanted. What's that? We only put up one, and it's across the street
behind a bush? Gosh, we'll look right into that.


They didn't exactly round up the vets and arrest them when they first broke through the barricades though, did they?

Again- the blame lies 100% with the administration. To put this on Park Police employees distracts from that.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (SY2Kh)

306 @GOPLeader President Obama has just threatened to veto funding bills for NIH kids, veterans, nat'l parks, nat'l guard [and] DC. pic.twitter.com/ofe2ucn7vA

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (YjDyJ)

307 What will happen if it rains? Who will open the umbrella?

We know it won't be Obama!

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 01:26 PM (B/VB5)

308 Logistics. Somebody get a bunch of Garrands and a mess load of thirty ought six, my boys will know what to do with it.

Wade into the bastards.

Posted by: George S. Patton at October 02, 2013 01:27 PM (Pr6hk)

309 I feel so...vigilante. Feels liberating.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (n/+FT)

Yes its better than calling a fellow member of the cause a selfish, coward who is doing these protests only for his own personal gain. I'm sure Cruz never the less thanks you for your vigilantism.

Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 01:27 PM (m2CN7)

310
"The fact that none of these Park Police understands their own rules is telling."




The three uniformed asshats in the pic were exempted from furlough specifically to erect fences to keep the vets out. the order came from the White House.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 02, 2013 01:27 PM (DHQv9)

311 Uhh.... I thought the reason these places were closed, were no Park Rangers due to shutdown...

so how can there be Park Rangers there to Keep people out?

/facepalm

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2013 01:27 PM (lZBBB)

312 Setting the g-d barricades at the WW2 memorial is hardly a litmus test on the ranger's f'kn life choices.

Calm the f down, Francis.

Posted by: 13times at October 02, 2013 01:27 PM (fGPLK)

313 "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up
until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always
votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public
treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due
to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."-Alexander Tyler

Posted by: boned to the bone at October 02, 2013 01:27 PM (Ph479)

314 JeffB, thank you for going to DC to support the vets. Up thread, someone suggested a weekend meetup at the Memorial. I'm in for early Saturday.

Posted by: LadyS at October 02, 2013 01:28 PM (oTXXN)

315 The ones doing their jobs could say, "We put up the barricades like you
wanted. What's that? We only put up one, and it's across the street
behind a bush? Gosh, we'll look right into that.

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They put it in the records department, which is in the basement, has no lights or stairs, in a disused lavatory which was marked "Beware of the leopard."

Posted by: Arthur Dent at October 02, 2013 01:28 PM (/Crba)

316 306 @GOPLeader President Obama has just threatened to veto funding bills for NIH kids, veterans, nat'l parks, nat'l guard [and] DC. pic.twitter.com/ofe2ucn7vA

Daddy always beats us when he doesn't get what he wants.

Posted by: wheatie at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (vqZWI)

317 I'm very glad to hear that you've led a sufficiently sheltered life such that you've never had to undertake a course of action your employer directed you to take though you disagreed with it.

You know, my employers have never given me morally repugnant orders. I find it sad that (based on your comment) a) yours have and b) you've complied.

Says a lot, really.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (/PCJa)

318 One last thing (because I'm a terrible procrastinator): the Park Police thought it was TOTAL BULLSHIT. Was talking w/one of them (before the vets showed up) and the guy was polite and not outright insubordinate in any way but it was clear from the eye-rolling and choice of words that he thought this was pathetic theatrical joke.

Asked him whether the memorials on the Mall were closed back during the '95 shutdown. Said he wasn't working there then but called over another guy (who I think might've been his superior?) who was. Guy said "hell no they weren't closed! How you gonna secure an open area anyway?" Asked him what he made of that, he laughed and looked at me pointedly and said "draw your own conclusions!"

They all basically took off when the vets showed up. Neat stuff.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (n/+FT)

319 They put it in the records department, which is in the basement, has no lights or stairs, in a disused lavatory which was marked "Beware of the leopard."
Posted by: Arthur Dent at October 02, 2013 01:28 PM (/Crba)


Hmm... I wonder if the Vogons know where SMOD's gotten to?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)

320 300
So, Mr. 39% popularity is going to stake his budget fight on denying public park access to WWII vets.



Is this:



a. tone-deaf stupidity.

or

b. a last fuck you to the "old" americans who should just die off
already because they're old and white and not really hip to hope and
change?

*
*
A: Yes.

(No, it doesn't make sense. What about Boama and his policies does/)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (BDU/a)

321 299 Andrea Plunkett ž@AndreaPlunkett 1h We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left.

YES! THAT'S what I'm talking about! "Hey, what could we do? We were on break when they came along."

Good for them!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (4df7R)


***************

I'm going to sound totally derby but it's

AWESOME SAUCE.

Cool! I am reading Jeff B. was there!?

Thank YOU Jeff B.!

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (r2PLg)

322 I'm not sure why there is anyone in the white house. Talk about non-essential...

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (QA8q2)

323 306 @GOPLeader President Obama has just threatened to veto funding bills for NIH kids, veterans, nat'l parks, nat'l guard [and] DC. pic.twitter.com/ofe2ucn7vA

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Anyone got video of Eleanor Holmes Norton, the Congressional Black Communist from DC, melting down yesterday during the debate over the CR to fund DC?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (/Crba)

324 Andrea Plunkett ž@AndreaPlunkett 1h We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left. YES! THAT'S what I'm talking about! "Hey, what could we do? We were on break when they came along." Good for them!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (4df7R)

Thanks for posting that. atc get her a lemon bar, stat.

Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (m2CN7)

325 If the vets really wanted to get in to the park, they would have dressed as bums, gotten high, and brought camping equipment and asswipe for the long squat. Then da Zero would understand.

Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (xWW96)

326 Claude Moore Park in VA closed even though no federal employees or federal money used (it sits on fed land).

http://tinyurl.com/q3lerr2

Posted by: unknown at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (UpdGw)

327 It's on the same continuum, imbecile.

Yep. One day you're putting up some temporary barricades after your boss tells you to, tomorrow you're rounding people up for the gas chamber.

Got it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)

328 I'm not technically a dick, but I work for one.

Posted by: Hitler's Genital Wart at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (iuY0Y)

329 Heh. Thank you Park Rangers!

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (r2PLg)

Yeah let's not be hasty. We have no idea what kinds of games the Park people are playing to avoid following these orders.

Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (KXm42)

330 Did anyone else catch that's not the WWI memorial, and is in fact the 2d Infantry Division memorial?

Posted by: akula51 at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (4p5/2)

331 The Park Rangers are a disgrace, simply BECAUSE they are "just obeying orders". They know exactly what they are doing and are doing it anyway. Fuck them, say I.

Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (IkYZ3)

332 Anyone got video of Eleanor Holmes Norton, the Congressional Black Communist from DC, melting down yesterday during the debate over the CR to fund DC?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (/Crba)


Throw a bucket of water on her and she'd LITERALLY melt down. It'd be beautiful.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (4df7R)

333 In case it wasn't already posted:

@noonanjo: Park Ranger confirms order to shut down #WWIImemorial came from the White House

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (1C7lu)

334 Andrea Plunkett ž@AndreaPlunkett 1h We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left.

Those slackers need to be hanged and then shot!

Posted by: Hollowhead at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (ggRof)

335 I feel so...vigilante. Feels liberating.

Come to the Dark Side. We have pie. And a vinyl copy of Selling England By The Pound.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 01:31 PM (B/VB5)

336 I'm spinning like a lathe.

Posted by: Audie Murphy at October 02, 2013 01:31 PM (/1ATA)

337 Probably mentioned upthread, but per latest Drudge headlines:

*Vets plan to storm Lincoln Memorial (yeah, they know how to overwhelm the system)

*NPS says they got their orders from the Obama Admin (Barry blaming it on some low-level employee in 3...2...1...)

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2013 01:31 PM (vvueH)

338 The WH residence staff has been cut back from 90 to 15. Right. Sure.
What this actually means is that maybe 10 or 15 have been furloughed and the rest are temporarily being paid out of other agencies' funds.
I knew someone on the WH residence staff (father of a friend) who was "let go" by Carter so POTUS could look frugal. All it meant was that he'd be paid by the GSA instead. Same job.

If the 6-figure-salaried dog-walker has been "furloughed," BTW, I'll bet it just means he's now being paid by the NPS! (They care for the WH grounds and the walker's job could easily be deemed outdoor work.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 02, 2013 01:31 PM (dfYL9)

339 318 One last thing (because I'm a terrible procrastinator): the Park Police thought it was TOTAL BULLSHIT. Was talking w/one of them (before the vets showed up) and the guy was polite and not outright insubordinate in any way but it was clear from the eye-rolling and choice of words that he thought this was pathetic theatrical joke.

Asked him whether the memorials on the Mall were closed back during the '95 shutdown. Said he wasn't working there then but called over another guy (who I think might've been his superior?) who was. Guy said "hell no they weren't closed! How you gonna secure an open area anyway?" Asked him what he made of that, he laughed and looked at me pointedly and said "draw your own conclusions!"

They all basically took off when the vets showed up. Neat stuff.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (n/+FT)

**************

Thank you soooo much for being there!!!


Yes--The Washington Post at first reported that one of the Park Police said he was a veteran and no way he would enforce the barricade.

Then of course later in the day The Washington Post took that quote out of their report and went with their spokesperson's comments.

Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:32 PM (r2PLg)

340 Hmm... I wonder if the Vogons know where SMOD's gotten to?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)


I fear SMOD has been destroyed to make way for a hyperspace bypass.

Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 01:32 PM (GQ8sn)

341 Setting the g-d barricades at the WW2 memorial is hardly a litmus test on the ranger's f'kn life choices.

Yeah, it kind of is. I understand why they do it, I just think it's kind of sad and pathetic. And the thing about "blame" is that there's more than enough to go around. Everyone is responsible for their own actions and decisions.

The Park Police (I'd hope) didn't sign on to be political pawns and should have refused to do so. That they didn't means they care more for their own security than for the law they claim to represent.

Which, again, is not actually all that surprising, but it is very sad.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 01:32 PM (/PCJa)

342 President Prevaricating Pompous Piss Ant strikes again!

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 02, 2013 01:32 PM (RZP0w)

343 Park Police were actually very professional about everything. Did their job, found a reason to "not be around" when vets showed up.

Hell, they didn't even give me shit for smoking, which I'm sure was technically a violation of some sort. (Of course I made it a point to not just leave my cigarette butt on the ground -- disrespectful as hell at a memorial in any event.)

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:32 PM (n/+FT)

344 318 One last thing (because I'm a terrible procrastinator): the Park Police thought it was TOTAL BULLSHIT. Was talking w/one of them (before the vets showed up) and the guy was polite and not outright insubordinate in any way but it was clear from the eye-rolling and choice of words that he thought this was pathetic theatrical joke.

Asked him whether the memorials on the Mall were closed back during the '95 shutdown. Said he wasn't working there then but called over another guy (who I think might've been his superior?) who was. Guy said "hell no they weren't closed! How you gonna secure an open area anyway?" Asked him what he made of that, he laughed and looked at me pointedly and said "draw your own conclusions!"

They all basically took off when the vets showed up. Neat stuff.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (n/+FT)


Ok, we can stop bashing the Park police. I think they've done the best that they could do under the circumstances.

And thanks Jeff B for going and reporting this!

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2013 01:33 PM (bCEmE)

345 I think some of these True Con trolls are just trolling

Posted by: Eton Cox at October 02, 2013 01:33 PM (q177U)

346 OT: I know it's not Sunday but this is a literary movement that cannot be denied.

http://tinyurl.com/mmpuedq

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 01:33 PM (Hx5uv)

347 I read on another post, someone put a 'Mr President, tear down this wall!' sign on the barrier. Genius!

Posted by: I'm the honey Badger, BITCH! at October 02, 2013 01:33 PM (Wy05x)

348 *NPS says they got their orders from the Obama Admin (Barry blaming it on some low-level employee in 3...2...1...)

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Pretty sure they blamed it directly on the Office of Management and Budget.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:33 PM (/Crba)

349 Everybody was doing it. It didn't seem wrong at the time. But now...yes I can see where some people might say they have a problem with it.

Posted by: Just following orders guy at October 02, 2013 01:33 PM (iuY0Y)

350 New one!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:34 PM (4df7R)

351 336
I'm spinning like a lathe. -- Audie Murphy

*
*
Listen to the hum we're making.

Posted by: James Stewart, Eddie Albert, Ernie Borgnine at October 02, 2013 01:34 PM (BDU/a)

352 Closing parks sounds like the kind of shit that would come out of a 3rd rate mind such as V. Jarrett's.

Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:34 PM (xWW96)

353 Stay focused, the people deserving of blame live at the WH.

Dyed in the wool o'admin commissars would've stood their ground and arrested the congressional rep's as they removed the barricades.

Posted by: 13times at October 02, 2013 01:35 PM (fGPLK)

354 I certainly wish I could be there right now. This should be a million person event, whether it's covered by the MFM or not.

Posted by: Soona at October 02, 2013 01:35 PM (6BIFo)

355 Apparently people are now walking right around the Barrycades for the Korean War monument as well.


Story time! A few years back I was in DC for a conference and after the night session was over I went wandering around the Mall. I had completely forgotten that the Korean War monument was completed. It was right after sunset and fog had rolled in and I walked directly into it. My first reaction was panic because it was rather startling. Then I realized where I was and I burst into tears. I cannot begin to explain how moving it was. Part of me wishes everyone could have that experience.


By the way, notice how there are no stories of people trying to break into the Smithsonian buildings and the like. Why? Because people who are not petulant children comprehend the difference between closing a building and "closing" an open air memorial.


Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 02, 2013 01:35 PM (VtjlW)

356
@MPPP (accidently socking Yogi Bear),

I've already lost one job for accidently standing up for what I thought was right (seriously, I didn't even realize there was even a line, just walked right past it, and no one said anything until several weeks later when they decided suddenly "not to renew my contract.")

In any case having done that before (by accident), I don't blame someone for not trying to be the hero here. It is what it is, and the fear of being pushed out in the cold in this economy may drive people to do things we ordinarily wouldn't. The world is a sad sad place to live in.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 02, 2013 01:35 PM (GaqMa)

357 In my yoot (80s), I knew a lot of rangers. They have pretty much gone from conservative to leftards. They are fedeal employees and suck on the gov teet. They worry about padding their pensions.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 01:35 PM (d0L02)

358 I agree with this post 100% and I find it a shameful disgrace that this would be barricaded, regardless of who funds it. With that being said I must point out that the top picture is of the U.S. Second Infantry Division Memorial, NOT the WWI Memorial. Get your fucking facts straight.

Posted by: J. Johnston at October 02, 2013 01:35 PM (cmA+5)

359 352
Closing parks sounds like the kind of shit that would come out of a 3rd rate mind such as V. Jarrett's.

Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:34 PM (xWW96)



From what I hear, she is actually uniquely smart and uniquely evil... It doesn't mean she doesn't have a tin-ear, especially after 5 years in the bubble.

Posted by: Juan McLame at October 02, 2013 01:37 PM (Pr6hk)

360 One last thing (because I'm a terrible procrastinator): the Park Police thought it was TOTAL BULLSHIT. Was talking w/one of them (before the vets showed up) and the guy was polite and not outright insubordinate in any way but it was clear from the eye-rolling and choice of words that he thought this was pathetic theatrical joke.

And if he, and his superior officers all thought thought that, (heck, not even "all" just enough) they could have simply refused the order. And they should have.

I'm glad they were annoyed by it, but obviously they weren't annoyed enough by it to say, "No, I won't be used for your political theater."

Today was a day the Park Police should have come down with the Blue Flu.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 01:38 PM (/PCJa)

361 National Parks? Never heard of them

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 02, 2013 01:39 PM (Pr6hk)

362 Wasn't this the monument Tom Libtard Hanks worked so hard to have built. Or was he just milking Saving Private Ryan press? Mr. Hanks, what say you about our king's closing of your passion project? Riiight. Old vets are so old news now. His majesty must be obeyed.

Posted by: Sugar Land at October 02, 2013 01:39 PM (h8hmA)

363 Ace, that's not the WWI memorial. This is: http://bit.ly/GzQIpv

I don't actually know what that one is. (I lived around DC for years.)

Posted by: Book at October 02, 2013 01:39 PM (qWES6)

364 The Park Rangers are a disgrace, simply BECAUSE they are "just obeying
orders". They know exactly what they are doing and are doing it anyway.
Fuck them, say I.


This.

The point of shitting on the park rangers' collective reputation isn't simply punitive for obeying Obama. It's to send a message to anyone else who might be inclined to 'just follow orders'.

If you disobey your conscience just because the boss makes a demand, you have no character, you are no American, and your fate is no worry of mine.

Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2013 01:39 PM (hO9ad)

365 "Barry-cades"

That one's gotta go viral.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 01:40 PM (U13jb)

366 How many Park Rangers does it take to hang a sign? Answer? 3 - Two mexicans and their white guy supervisor leaning on a stack of twistie ties. Imagine the benefits these clowns receive for their worthless output. Its enough to make even a communist blush.

Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 02, 2013 01:40 PM (BwsYg)

367 @noonanjo: Park Ranger confirms order to shut down #WWIImemorial came from the White House
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2013 01:30 PM (1C7lu)


Wormtail Jarrett?
Or, the Soulless One?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 01:40 PM (IXrOn)

368 In any case having done that before (by accident), I don't blame someone for not trying to be the hero here.

Yes. I’m more inclined to view those who choose to do the right thing as heroes, rather than those won don’t as villains. Let the blame fall on the White House. They set the policy. They’re the bad guys in this.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 01:40 PM (QF8uk)

369 I like "Barack-cades" myself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2013 01:43 PM (a4Omg)

370 Ok, I found it, the memorial pictured is actually here: http://bit.ly/1g45PEA

It's the Army, Second Division Memorial (ca. 1936) near the Ellipse in Washington, D.C.

Posted by: Book at October 02, 2013 01:43 PM (qWES6)

371 Obama reminds me of the petty assholes I've worked with over the years who never fail to let you know their power over you. I'm talking about the guy who won't let you take a pencil out of company stocks without asking for permission.
And this sad sack of fecal matter is president?

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2013 01:44 PM (ZYDOv)

372 Obama reminds me of the petty assholes I've worked with over the years who never fail to let you know their power over you. I'm talking about the guy who won't let you take a pencil out of company stocks without asking for permission.
And this sad sack of fecal matter is president?

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2013 01:44 PM (ZYDOv)

373 369: "Barack-cades"- that's much better. Who do we call to get that one used in the media?

(I kid on that last part. A bit. )

Posted by: Book at October 02, 2013 01:44 PM (qWES6)

374 It would be nice if the identities of those workers in the picture could be identified through crowd sourcing. Then they could be publicly shamed.

Posted by: Dogbert at October 02, 2013 01:44 PM (Ynbgq)

375 355
The Korean War Memorial is my most vivid memory of DC.

Posted by: Big Ben at October 02, 2013 01:45 PM (I5Htn)

376 I can't wait to get to DC again. I'll be sure to ask some NPS shlep where I can sign up for the elder-abuse program like they have.

Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 02, 2013 01:46 PM (iuY0Y)

377 @38 ...Also fuck Tom Hanks with a syphilitic unicorn.

God I love this place!

Posted by: jrg at October 02, 2013 01:47 PM (61B4w)

378 Your government hates you...

Posted by: Deafdog at October 02, 2013 01:50 PM (xlknz)

379 >>>And if he, and his superior officers all thought thought that, (heck,
not even "all" just enough) they could have simply refused the order.
And they should have.


I think you're being more than bit silly here. Obama's order may have been stupid, or vindictive, or doltish (it was in fact all of these things) but it was not unlawful. You cannot refuse unlawful orders, no matter how much you disagree with them, without consequences. Instead, they did the best possible splitting of the difference: they "followed orders" and then conveniently disappeared, nowhere to be found, when the vets and various other folks went through the barricades to the memorial.

To demand anything else of them is to demand they literally destroy their careers and fall on their swords for this petty bullshit. They don't want to be pawns in our current partisan drama and you can't compel them to be. They weren't herding Jews into gas chambers (which is why the Nuremburg "just following orders" phrase I hear from some here is so Godwin-like and out of line), they were putting up easily removed barricades to fulfill the letter of their instructions and then arguably getting themselves into trouble (before the new policy came down) by conspicuously disappearing from the scene to allow those barricades to be overrun. Give folks a break.

It was a very happy, pleasant, upbeat scene out there today. Not a lot of anger. Honestly, it felt less about the current shutdown battle and more about the reverence for the fighting men who gave their lives and their service for the country in World War II.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:50 PM (n/+FT)

380 327 It's on the same continuum, imbecile.Yep. One day you're putting up some temporary barricades after your boss tells you to, tomorrow you're rounding people up for the gas chamber.Got it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint
***

Hollowpoint's right. Extermination camps are never preceded by lesser steps or signals that should be any cause for concern. That's because they always spring up magically, like mushrooms, fully formed, overnight, chimneys smoking away. Wannabe tyrants would never be so foolish as to test the resolve of their adversaries or the loyalty of their minions bydoing tyrant things incrementally.That's precisely why Hitler did not breach the treaty of Versailles in 1936 by sending a few platoons ofarmed policeinto the demilitarized Rhineland with orders that they retreat upon the leastshowing of French resolve.It's not like, one daysome comical tyrant isgambling on the French backing down in the face of a couple of inexperienced platoons and then, before you know it, he's conquered most ofEurope and is gassing Jews, or something.

Posted by: Boiling Frog at October 02, 2013 01:52 PM (Xv7f/)

381 The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs. -Hollowpoint

I see this got kicked around a lot. But I sort-of agree, at least with how I take it:

I've been thinking, the drones putting out the gates are nothing to gripe about, really. Sure, it'd be nice if some of them said, "You know what? No!" Honorable people willing to give up their jobs for principle here. But these workers, even the lower-level bureaucrats who give the orders to put up gates, they may be reprehensible morally, but they are indeed just pawns in a game, and as such should melt into insignificance at the vets' mere approach.

Theatrically, the barry-cades work against the tyrants. So, thank those guys who were "just following orders" for helping set the stage for new heroics.

Save the majority of the wrath for the ones who would actually stand there and enforce the barriers, try to stop the vets from snipping the zips and moving the barricades. It is the enforcers who should be thoroughly castigated... did I spell that right?

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 01:52 PM (U13jb)

382 Your government hates you.

After the IRS went after the VFW, the DHS released that memo about Vets being potential terrorists, and now this, every active-duty and veteran needs to sit up straight and take notice.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 01:54 PM (yETln)

383

Now I feel sorry for the PP after seeing the assholes they have to deal with:

http://goo.gl/iZDZcl

Skip over to the 4 minute mark.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 01:55 PM (d0L02)

384 >>>Hollowpoint's right.

Hollowpoint actually is right, and your post is ridiculously overheated. Hey, you know how we'll know if we're on the way to gas chambers? When a party takes power on the platform of physically expelling and/or exterminating a certain minority group. Then forcibly expels them from public life under color of law. Then passes national legislation disenfranchising and expropriating money from them. Then holds government-sponsored pogroms against them.

All those things happened in Germany. Until they do in America, please...please, do not embarrass yourself with this kind of rhetoric.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:56 PM (n/+FT)

385 "Hmm... I wonder if the Vogons know where SMOD's gotten to?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM"


If not, the poetry should do the trick.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2013 01:56 PM (knoK7)

386 When a party takes power on the platform of physically expelling and/or exterminating a certain minority group.

Missouri Gov Lilburn Boggs, Executive Order 44, "Mormon Extermination Order". He didn't advertise the platform, but nobody seemed to have a problem with it.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 01:58 PM (yETln)

387 You tell that fuckin jerkwad ACE!!

Posted by: zeeman at October 02, 2013 01:58 PM (pjJ5P)

388 363, see 330...lol. I'm sure someone else prolly caught it upthread too.

Posted by: akula51 at October 02, 2013 01:58 PM (4p5/2)

389 "...a party takes power on the platform of physically expelling and/or
exterminating a certain minority group. Then forcibly expels them from
public life under color of law. Then passes national legislation
disenfranchising and expropriating money from them. Then holds
government-sponsored pogroms against them..."

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Go on. Newsletter?

Posted by: Barry Zero at October 02, 2013 02:03 PM (YmPwQ)

390 384. All those things happened in Germany. Until they do in America, please...please, do not embarrass yourself with this kind of rhetoric.
Posted by: Jeff B. ***You appear to be unacquainted with the rhetoric and actions of this administration. See, IRS, NSA, AP, and now, NPS.You feeling like you have more or less liberty than you used to?BTW, well done on missing the point. None of the things you list were done by the Nazis in 1933, 1934, 1935 ...

Posted by: Powderhouse at October 02, 2013 02:06 PM (Xv7f/)

391 Days like this I miss Breitbart and what he would be doing to Obama/MSM.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 02, 2013 02:08 PM (gfQ4L)

392 @190 - Kaptur is mine as well. We are so boned here in NE Ohio. And no, they won't stop voting Democrat over this. They are programmed to, much like the scorpion crossing the river on the back of the fox.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 02, 2013 02:12 PM (vg8iE)

393 Chickenshit

Posted by: Don at October 02, 2013 02:19 PM (x/usf)

394 Honestly, it felt less about the current shutdown battle and more about the reverence for the fighting men who gave their lives and their service for the country in World War II. -Jeff B.

As it should be, as it should be. Good to read. Thanks for being there, Jeff.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 02:21 PM (U13jb)

395 Oh, brilliant. Barricade the road so 90-year-old heroes have to walk an extra half-mile in the hot October sun. Proud men crawling over broken glass to exercise their rights. That will surely discourage the Faux News cameras from covering this kabuki opera.

News alert to CNN and MSNBC: Brave disabled heroes may die because of Rethuglikkan shutdown. Film at 9pm!

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 02, 2013 02:21 PM (a5ljo)

396 My Grandma appealed her case to the Independent Payment Advisory Board and all I got was this crummy lampshade.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 02, 2013 02:24 PM (a5ljo)

397 Regarding those ordered to put up barrycades,

I used the phrase "reprehensible morally." Too strong. Allen G put it better, "kind of sad and pathetic."

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 02:25 PM (U13jb)

398 396
My Grandma appealed her case to the Independent Payment Advisory Board and all I got was this crummy lampshade


Ouch. Good one, LM Spellcheck!

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 02, 2013 02:27 PM (QdOC1)

399 The CPR excuse is made even more bogus when you consider the fact that many of the Guardians who escort the veterans are trained medical people who volunteered (doctors, nurses, EMT'a etc).

Our family has been supporting and volunteering (as greeters) for years and a good friend who is a doctor will be on a September flight out of Boston as a guardian. A veteran with any medical needs is paired with a medically trained guardian-if any of them needed CPR there are plenty of volunteers who are brought specifically fornthisnpurpose and probably have better emergency training and experience than the trained CPR park service employee who isn't necessarily always on site anyway.

Also as a note if anyone hasn't had the joy of supporting this program I highly recommend it. There is nothing better than to greet these veterans as they leave and return from their day at the memorial.

Posted by: KimD at October 02, 2013 04:57 PM (TEMbB)






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