John McCain: In Order to Survive, Republicans Must Become Civilized, and Endeavor to Persevere

He's a Democrat. I don't mind that he's a Democrat, but he's going around the country claiming to be part of the opposition party.

This is, essentially, the Democratic response: ObamaCare was duly passed, it was an issue in a presidential campaign that the GOP lost, end of story — whether or not there are 51 or even 60 votes in the Senate to defund this thing. He actually used the phrase “elections have consequences,” which must be the first time a member of the *minority* party has ever tossed that into a debate. Like Ramesh Ponnuru says, weren’t Ted Cruz and Mike Lee elected too?

UPDATE: (Jack M.)

Here's a blast from the past. 2002 to be exact. McCain's been a Democrat for at least 11 years, or so his one-time "chief strategist" seems to imply in this 2002 interview. In 2013, Weaver, apparently, is a Republican consultant again.

John Weaver hunches his angular frame over a Styrofoam cup
of coffee in the basement cafeteria of the United States Senate and
tries to explain what might seem--to an outsider--his peculiar
political loyalties. Once a loyal Republican strategist who directed
the presidential aspirations of uber-conservative Phil Gramm and helped
plot John McCain's maverick primary run in 2000, he has since
re-registered as a Democrat and severed consulting ties to all
Republicans except McCain, for whom he still serves as chief
strategist. "I only work for Democrats now," he tells me. Noticing that
he has overlooked the party affiliation of his most prominent advisee,
I helpfully add: "And John McCain." Weaver shrugs his shoulders and
grins, "Oh, right."
(Emphasis added).

Update 2: Moar Context!1!

Here's some more relatively contemporaneous context. Granted it's from the New York Times in 2008, so grain of salt...but the players remain the same.

Mr. McCain had begun to ally himself with the Democrats on a number of issues, and had told Mr. Daschle that he planned to vote against the Bush tax cuts, a centerpiece of the new president’s domestic agenda. Mr. McCain often made “disparaging comments” about Mr. Bush on the floor of the Senate, Mr. Daschle recalled.

Still, Democrats were stunned one Saturday in late March when, by their account, John Weaver, Mr. McCain’s longtime political strategist, reached out to Thomas J. Downey, a former Democratic congressman from Long Island who had become a lobbyist with powerful connections on Capitol Hill. In Mr. Downey’s telling, Mr. Weaver posed a question to him over lunch that left him stunned.

“He says, ‘John McCain is wondering why nobody’s ever approached him about switching parties, or becoming an independent and allying himself with the Democrats,’ ” Mr. Downey said in a recent interview. “My reaction was, ‘When I leave this lunch, your boss will be called by anybody you want him to be called by in the United States Senate.’ ”

Mr. Weaver recalls the conversation differently. He said that Mr. Downey had told him that Democrats, eager to find a Republican who would switch sides and give them control of the evenly divided Senate, had approached some Republican senators about making the jump. “I stated they couldn’t be so desperate as they hadn’t reached out to McCain,” Mr. Weaver said in an e-mail message last week.

Whatever transpired, Mr. Downey raced home and immediately called Mr. Daschle. It was the first step in what became weeks of conversations that April between Mr. McCain and the leading Democrats, among them Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and John Edwards, then a senator from North Carolina, about the possibility of Mr. McCain’s leaving his party. One factor driving Mr. McCain, Mr. Downey said, was his bad relations with the Republican caucus.

So, yeah. As they use to say in the old NFL commercials: "You make the call!"

(End Updates)

Apparently they're working on a one-week CR that will let them have some time to argue about ObamaCare and such.

And Open Thread.

Oh, if this is an open thread, I should mention this: Sex Jihad.

It's bad. It's how women serve the Jihad -- by servicing the Jihadis, 20, 30, or more of them per tour.

At 2:42:

Posted by: Ace at 07:54 PM



Comments

1 **Checks the Pray-for-Death list**

Posted by: toby928© at September 25, 2013 07:56 PM (QupBk)

2 I wonder if Vietnam would like him back?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2013 07:56 PM (sUMBr)

3 Oh! So THAT'S his excuse:

He's a survivor.

Ok.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM (DmNpO)

4 Heh... yeah, just re-watched this one myself, earlier in the week. Definitely one of Clint's best.

Posted by: Nathan Shafer at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM (KgZ5r)

5 OT, but I'm looking for a good "a and b, but mostly b" example joke. Anybody have any favorites?

Posted by: wooga at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM (DiUNu)

6

Leftism and a massive Giverment (spelled correctly) is inherently civilized. Responsible government and political restraint are barbaric.

Posted by: imp at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM (L9AnB)

7 Senile or Alzheimer's?

Posted by: Generation Y at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM (rCS6C)

8 Breathe deeply. Let the FAIL infuse you.

Posted by: John McCain at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM (8ZskC)

9 7. Idiot

Posted by: never enough caffiene at September 25, 2013 07:58 PM (GfBk2)

10 "We thought about it for a long time, 'Endeavor to persevere.' And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union."

Posted by: Andy at September 25, 2013 07:58 PM (0ZQCB)

11 Ass-rape is a lot more pleasant if you don't resist so much.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2013 07:58 PM (8ZskC)

12 5,000 years of recorded history suggests civilized type civilization is generally overrated.

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 25, 2013 07:58 PM (9MLX+)

13 I figure that if Chris Christie ever runs for President, and the demoralized conservative base fails to turn out for him due to his RINOness, and he loses, then afterwards, Christie will be exactly the same sort of dickhead about it that McQueeg has turned into.

That is, instead of recognizing his own failure as a candidate, he will start seeking revenge on his own party's base at every turn for its not having loved and supported him unconditionally.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 07:59 PM (gqT4g)

14 He is under the influence of low frequency radio waves.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 25, 2013 07:59 PM (FaZT2)

15 It's time for conservatives in thepartyto ostracize this self-important two-facedmotherfucker. He's a RINO fossil that embodies the party's past failures. He's of no practical political use to the GOP in the future. He should be regarded as a pariah.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 25, 2013 07:59 PM (S11Oq)

16 I've been named Honorary Captain of the New Zealand sailing team! What an honor!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at September 25, 2013 07:59 PM (Ks4nX)

17 Yeah, Rush highlighted McCain's breath-taking statements at the end of his show. Can you believe he was our actual nominee for President?!!! Unfricking believable.

Posted by: rumningrn at September 25, 2013 07:59 PM (PLOz8)

18 Why bother with a one week continuing resolution?
You can't keep talking without one?
The government won't collapse because you are a week over due getting the paper work done.

Hell, for a week, the Federal Government could just fake it, like they have been doing.

What difference does it make?

Posted by: Olle Gustafson at September 25, 2013 08:00 PM (elC5f)

19 McCain is such a petty, stubborn, vindictive, self-absorbed asshole.

Don't pretend you know what's best for Republicans when you stab your Republican colleagues in the back every chance you get, you decrepit piece of shit.




Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 08:00 PM (X9Mnx)

20 Hey wingnuts, how do you like this one?

JUST BUILD THE DANG FENCE!!

Now you know who to keep pulling that lever for.

Posted by: John McCain at September 25, 2013 08:00 PM (8ZskC)

21 That is, instead of recognizing his own failure as a candidate, he will start seeking revenge on his own party's base at every turn for its not having loved and supported him unconditionally.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 07:59 PM....................Oh, trust me, he's already there.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2013 08:00 PM (sUMBr)

22 "He actually used the phrase “elections have consequences,” which must be
the first time a member of the *minority* party has ever tossed that
into a debate."

And spoken by the Republican 2008 nominee for the presidency of the United States of America.

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 08:00 PM (HjPtV)

23 McCain ' He Won'


i've been hearing this from the left all day.

what they haven't noticed is they screamed Boosh throughout his terms And didn't allow Bush freedom to do 'his' thing. fought everything every day rudely, flagrantly, etc. But we are not afforded same courtesy.

because.

.hypocrisy .


.because.
they can.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:01 PM (nqBYe)

24 McCain is sure a lot more critical of Cruz than Obama or any other Democrat. Jackass halfwit!

Posted by: rumningrn at September 25, 2013 08:01 PM (PLOz8)

25 So John McCain has decided to spend his last years in the Senate being a pain in the ass to conservatives.

Rot in hell.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:01 PM (OWjjx)

26 The Marshal Petain of the GOP.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2013 08:01 PM (8ZskC)

27
After the 08 election Ace wrote a post saying McCain needed to go...to retire...to resign, forthwith.

I remember because I was thinking to myself geez, kick a guy when he's down, whydontcha.

boy was I wrong

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:01 PM (GE81t)

28 2008 McCain -fight. fight.
2013 McCain- shut up.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:02 PM (nqBYe)

29 I can't believe I voted for this asshole.

Posted by: L, elle at September 25, 2013 08:02 PM (mfutM)

30 The VC should have kept him. Fucker.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2013 08:03 PM (sUMBr)

31
Say, you know that Obama fella sure is a fine upstanding man.

Posted by: Wodeshed at September 25, 2013 08:03 PM (ngk0T)

32 He's a democrat, plus, he thinks Obamacare is a good idea really.

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 08:03 PM (BmWNr)

33
He's a Democrat.

True dat and with all that such a designation entails.

Posted by: meh at September 25, 2013 08:03 PM (W2qJe)

34 I can't believe I voted for this asshole.

Shit....I gave him money.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:03 PM (OWjjx)

35 McCain is such a petty, stubborn, vindictive, self-absorbed asshole.

Don't pretend you know what's best for Republicans when you stab your Republican colleagues in the back every chance you get, you decrepit piece of shit.


Did he feel like he got stabbed in the back in a previous presidential election? He seems to have the GOP on his personal hate-list.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 25, 2013 08:04 PM (yETln)

36 with my frienzz like these.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:04 PM (nqBYe)

37 Ace can you add this quote in there as an update?
John McCain from his acceptance speech in 2007.


"I don't mind a good fight. For reasons known only to God, I've hadquite a few tough ones in my life. But I learned an important lessonalong the way: In the end, it matters less that you can fight. Whatyou fight for is the real test."

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 25, 2013 08:04 PM (8719b)

38 Isn't "endeavor tp presevere" what EOJ said we should do before we died "alone cold, and in the dark"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2013 08:04 PM (a4Omg)

39 Palin should announce she's going to challenge him for the AZ senate seat. That would be awesome.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (g1DWB)

40 I must admit, after the last election I was so depressed and distraught that I wished I could force the full Obama on America. That is, I wished that we could implement everything Obama wanted. The Let It Burn mindset.

Part of me still thinks it's the only way to wake people up. But it's hard not to fight Obama at every turn, too. What a dilemma.

One thing I do know, though, is that I will never again vote for a RINO. Same shit, different party.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (pcgW1)

41 Personally, I am looking forward to him addressing the Democratic Convention in 2016 so he can endorse Hillary!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (OWjjx)

42 Fuck John McCain.

The only time in my life I've felt really dirty after voting was when I voted for that asshole.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (P/gm7)

43 Crist, preserve us!

Posted by: adams Morgan vs. Morgan porn at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (gQKHE)

44 *waves tiny pass a fucking budget you web toed nose picking jock itch spreading jackholes sign*

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (Gk3SS)

45 I can't believe I voted for this asshole.



Shit....I gave him money.



I like to imagine the money I sent to McCain was actually used to purchase a lacy satin bustier for Sarah Palin. It hurts less that way.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (8ZskC)

46 It's OVER Johnny!

Posted by: Col. Trautman at September 25, 2013 08:06 PM (vx61Q)

47 McCain wants the MFM to love him again.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 08:06 PM (9XBK2)

48 He's only 77. His mom is a 101 and still running around. Can you imagine another 25 years of this asshole?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:06 PM (T0Pku)

49 Somebody needs to ask Cruz what went through his mind when Harry Reid offered him that extra hour in the well of the Senate if Cruz would allow Johnny Mac to speak for "15 minutes".

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 08:07 PM (HjPtV)

50 "...Whatyou fight for is the real test."

--

Yes, it is. We see what he's fighting for. The Democrats. Rotten, senile bastard.

{waves "hi" to Gutfeld}

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at September 25, 2013 08:07 PM (XB5Ak)

51 50 He's only 77. His mom is a 101 and still running around. Can you imagine another 25 years of this asshole?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:06 PM (T0Pku)


Yup.

Posted by: Prince Chucky at September 25, 2013 08:07 PM (bufJH)

52 I like to imagine the money I sent to McCain was
actually used to purchase a lacy satin bustier for Sarah Palin. It hurts
less that way.


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (8ZskC)



I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:08 PM (Gk3SS)

53 I wrote earlier this week or late last week that I expect him to become a dem. Someone else posted that they wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up in a full dress and pearls before 6.

McCain has always had a temper. I saw a comment from the Ace’s first post today, just before noon, I believe it was #600. I spent a half hour looking for comment from person who once worked for McCain a decade before 1998. Go read it if you haven’t.

He’s not very bright and they called him Psycho way back then.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:08 PM (z4WKX)

54 Getting rid of the spider.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 25, 2013 08:09 PM (P/gm7)

55 He's only 77. His mom is a 101 and still running around. Can you imagine another 25 years of this asshole?

No chance. He has to understand he is past the point of winning another primary. He got lucky the last time because J.D. whateverthehellhislastnamewas was so bad that he could skate by. And yea, some conservatives came into Arizona and endorsed him, out of loyalty or something.

Not the next time. He is poison now. He will lose and go out in a bitter, disgusting speech blasting everybody who hates him. Which is why I don't think he will run again....because the people around him know this is how it will end and don't want a bitter, angry bitchy image of John McCain being the last thing America remembers about him.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:09 PM (OWjjx)

56 Somebody needs to ask Cruz what went through his mind when Harry Reid offered him that extra hour in the well of the Senate if Cruz would allow Johnny Mac to speak for "15 minutes".

Posted by: mrp


Visions of McCain having a heart attack on the floor?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 25, 2013 08:09 PM (ligos)

57
What I hate most about McCain's antics is that he goes out of his way to shit on other Republicans.

But his latest antics seal it, for me. John McCain is a lousy rotten Totalitarian. Fuck him, with Extreme Prejudice.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:10 PM (GE81t)

58 How the hell did we end up with Romney leading the fight against ObamaCare again.....

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:10 PM (r2PLg)

59 I hope that rumor that McCain wants this to be his last term is true.

Would it be too paranoid to think McCain is some kind of sleeper agent whose purpose is to undercut conservatives?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 25, 2013 08:11 PM (Dsds2)

60 Oh everyone just loved!-loved! -loved! McCain when he was leading the rebellion against a sitting war time president.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:12 PM (r2PLg)

61
Yes, he switched parties the day after he lost the prez election.

Posted by: Wicked Witch of the West at September 25, 2013 08:12 PM (sj9LN)

62
Sex Jihad...



Isn't it nice
Sugar and spice

Luring Islam dollies
To a life of vice

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 25, 2013 08:12 PM (kdS6q)

63 Oh everyone just loved!-loved! -loved! McCain when he was leading the *Democrat* rebellion against a sitting war time president.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (r2PLg)

64 Did he feel like he got stabbed in the back in a previous presidential
election? He seems to have the GOP on his personal hate-list.


I think he feels entitled to be the Senate power broker, and he's pissed off that others are daring to take the wheel.

You know how he's a part of every "Gang of X"? There's a reason for that- it gives him an outsized degree of power. Do as he says, or he and his pet poodle Graham will vote with the Dems.

It's the same with the likes of Murkowski, but in a different way. She'll hold her vote hostage unless you throw in some goodies for Alaska.

I hate that shit. I understand that politics are politics, and sometimes a little palm greasing is a necessary evil. That sometimes perfect is the enemy of good. But dammit, these people were elected to represent the people of the US of A and they get away with abusing that power over and over again.

Because we (voters in general) let them. Over and over again.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (X9Mnx)

65 That's why he thought the NYT loved him. Stupid ass that he is

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (BmWNr)

66 Oh everyone just loved!-loved! -loved! McCain when he was leading the *Democrat* rebellion against a sitting war time president.

***

Who is "everyone"?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (DmNpO)

67 Does Gutfeld only read the comments?

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (9XBK2)

68
/stands on table ar Arnold's restaurant

btw, I have an important announcement to make:

Julianne Moore is one ugly woman. She got Sarah Palin's hair right and the glasses right, but Julianne Moore's mouth and jaw is ugly.

And I think they wanted it like that: so people would associate Palin's words with an ugly mouth.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (GE81t)

69 How the hell did we end up with Romney leading the fight against ObamaCare again.....

Because Rick Perry was either on pain meds or can't debate, Rick Santorum thought "sweater vest" would connect with the young voters, Herman Cain got whacked (and 9-9-9 was a crappy plan), Michelle Bachmann is, was and will continue to be crazy and Newt Gingrich never realized he was running for President and not "Smartest Man in the Room".

Same reason we wound up with John McCain in 2008......cause we just didn't have anyone better running.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:14 PM (OWjjx)

70 Since I am a better person, allow me to point and laugh:

http://wapo.st/16JKrxd


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:14 PM (Gk3SS)

71 I voted for him in 2008 but didn’t give him any money until he picked Sarah Palin.
I must have missed Ace’s post in 2008 saying he should go, Ace is right. He would have saved us a lot of embarrassment.

McCain lost for many reasons, he’s an obnoxious boor & his voice was devoid of life during the entire campaign & the Republicans use the same old loser political consultants. Lose one election, go away, no one should hire that consultant again. They get paid by the ads, not the success. The only thing that brought life to McCain’s campaign was Sarah Palin.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (z4WKX)

72 Like daughter, like dotage.

Posted by: adams water soluble porn at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (gQKHE)

73 So, McCain's pulling a wagon up in Kansas, I'll bet.

Posted by: RS at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (YAGV/)

74 I just posted the same thing at NY Times.

Fuck him. I can not believe I maxed out on that bastard.

What do expect, his family has been on the federal payroll for a HUNDRED years. TRUE.

Money comes in the mail to him.

NEVER had a job that the Feds didn't pay for.

Go back to AZ and spend you wife's beer money.

Posted by: John Smith at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (wR+pz)

75 43 Personally, I am looking forward to him addressing the Democratic Convention in 2016 so he can endorse Hillary!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:05 PM (OWjjx)


Like a reverse Zell Miller? Yeah, I can see that.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

76 I agree nominating hard core conservatives like John McCain is only driving moderates from the party to the democrats.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (1RFUG)

77 Endeavor to persevere only applies when you're working a big dumb blonde squaw with pemmican burgers and budweiser. It's an acquired taste.

Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (x2W/k)

78 61 How the hell did we end up with Romney leading the fight against ObamaCare again.....

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:10 PM (r2PLg)


Something about the GOP Establishment?

It's amazing to me how Cruz is a Tea Party extremist and that's bad, but far left extremist loon Harry Reid leading the Senate is no big deal.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:16 PM (pcgW1)

79 63
"Fuck John McCain."

I wish!
Posted by: Mabe Galor at September 25, 2013 08:12 PM (Y+zSY)


Okay, that made me laugh.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:16 PM (T0Pku)

80 Well we need to listen to the Horned Toad. Mexico it is.

Posted by: Registered Voter at September 25, 2013 08:16 PM (BGFPo)

81 I do like this Ted Cruz man
He's not like me. He's such a sham.

I do not like him on the Senate Floor.
He speaks too long. He's such a bore.

Why can't Cruz be be more like me?
A patriot,gentleman, maverick-y?

I wouldn't like him with a fox
He'd be better in a soundproof box.

Shut up nice and quiet, you see
Not confronting Republicans like me .

These Tea Partiers who want to raise a fuss.
They really just make me want to cuss.

Why can't the Senate be like it used to be?
I'll scratch yours if you'll scratch me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2013 08:16 PM (a4Omg)

82 73 How the hell did we end up with Romney leading the fight against ObamaCare again.....

Because Rick Perry was either on pain meds or can't debate, Rick Santorum thought "sweater vest" would connect with the young voters, Herman Cain got whacked (and 9-9-9 was a crappy plan), Michelle Bachmann is, was and will continue to be crazy and Newt Gingrich never realized he was running for President and not "Smartest Man in the Room".

Same reason we wound up with John McCain in 2008......cause we just didn't have anyone better running.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:14 PM (OWjjx)


***********

You forgot about our pundit betters and the Michelle Malkin hysteria over vaccines.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:16 PM (r2PLg)

83 Every time Republicans looked like they were going to the mattresses over some political issue, one could count on McCain to lend his name and best efforts to some "Gang of Eight" or "Gang of Sixteen". These 'gangs" always seemed to opt for a bigger government solution costing the taxpayers more money in higher taxes and increased regulation. McCain-Feingold - rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 08:17 PM (HjPtV)

84 And here I thought that obese cow moron he has for offspring was an anomaly...

Ah...The Outlaw Josey Wales....chock full of memorable quotes...

'You get them holes a-leakin', I'm gonna whomp you with a knotted plow line...'

'Wish we had time to bury them fellas..'

'Hell with them fellas, buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms..'

Posted by: Portnoy at September 25, 2013 08:17 PM (g9Osd)

85 I’ve suggested Alzheimer’s & I know about it because my mother had that frigging disease. Some have said it made their family member milder, my mother was a saint and she became violent. It depends on the part of the brain that the disease is killing.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:17 PM (z4WKX)

86 I don't think McCain is a Democrat.

I think McCain hates the closest person to him that even mildly disagrees with him.

He's made enemies of everybody in his caucus, so why not switch to the Democrats?

If he even had principles, I'd respect that, but he's just driven by spite and vengeance.

I picture him, bloody and dying, with his finger on the nuke button, aimed at Cruz' house saying, "with Hell's last breath, I stab at thee."

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:18 PM (xSegX)

87 Not the next time. He is poison now. He will lose and go out in a bitter, disgusting speech blasting everybody who hates him. Which is why I don't think he will run again....because the people around him know this is how it will end and don't want a bitter, angry bitchy image of John McCain being the last thing America remembers about him.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 25, 2013 08:09 PM...............................I wouldn't put it past him to pull an Arlen Specter. I can see that traitorous fuck switching parties, hell he already has for years now, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2013 08:18 PM (sUMBr)

88 Something about the GOP Establishment?

It's amazing to me how Cruz is a Tea Party extremist and that's bad, but far left extremist loon Harry Reid leading the Senate is no big deal.
Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:16 PM (pcgW1)

****************

Michelle Malkin and Michelle Bachmann are the Establishment?

Hell the hysteria over everything Perry came from the--

Punditocracy.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:18 PM (r2PLg)

89 Waiting for Leslie, McCain's bitch to chime in.

Posted by: John Smith at September 25, 2013 08:18 PM (wR+pz)

90 maybe McCain could use his clout to get congress to pass a budget sometime in the last 5 years. What an ass. Why isn't he like most vets and wonder why the fuck he spent time in the Hanoi Hilton, was it so Obama could spend 8 years as president with a personal slush fund of a trillion dollars a year?

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:19 PM (1RFUG)

91 I’ve suggested Alzheimer’s & I know about it because my mother had that frigging disease. Some have said it made their family member milder, my mother was a saint and she became violent. It depends on the part of the brain that the disease is killing.

***

He does not have Alzheimer's, he's a just a spiteful old bastard.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 08:19 PM (DmNpO)

92 John McCain. He's tanned, rested and ready--for Hollywood Squares, Colonial Penn commercials and Depends....

Posted by: Jenk at September 25, 2013 08:19 PM (8xKUx)

93 @23: "what they haven't noticed is they screamed Boosh throughout his terms
And didn't allow Bush freedom to do 'his' thing. fought everything every
day rudely, flagrantly, etc. But we are not afforded same courtesy.

because.

.hypocrisy ."

It's not hypocrisy - it's a winning strategy. Attack, attack, attack. and attack. Never let up. Ever. Shoot the enemy wounded. Shoot their dead, just to make sure. Shoot 'em both again. They may not know who the guy was, but they've absorbed Patton: "Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get
any messages saying that "we are holding our position." We're not
holding anything. Let the [GOP] do that. We are advancing constantly and
we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're
going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the
ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're
going to go through him like crap through a goose."

The GOP? Well, they've absorbed War (the band, not the act): "Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends?"

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 25, 2013 08:19 PM (FsqHK)

94 Oh John McCain, just please go away. Far, far the fuck away.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 25, 2013 08:20 PM (GrtrJ)

95 It made absolutely no sense to elect Romney.

Anyone with common sense who wanted to take ObamaCare head on knew that.

Except we had a whole bunch of pundit types stampeding people--

towards Romney while claiming to be "anti-establishment".

Biggest snow job in recent history.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (r2PLg)

96 Malkin and Bachman made Romney the Republican nominee? Who knew?

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (pcgW1)

97 if McCain's father hadn't been CNO, he never would have gotten into Annapolis


nepotism is a bitch

Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (omBWL)

98 You'd have to be nuts to be a muslim woman.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (5H6zj)

99 92 John McCain. He's tanned, rested and ready--for Hollywood Squares, Colonial Penn commercials and Depends...


Don't forget those reverse mortgages, and Budweiser!

Posted by: Fred Thompson at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (wR+pz)

100 Your verse is terse.
McCain longs for us
in the smelly hearse.

Posted by: adams bustier rhymes porn at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (gQKHE)

101 And Reagan would never survive in a party that nominates hardcore conservatives like Romney and McCain.

Posted by: ejo at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (C/Spx)

102 I do NOT denounce myself.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at September 25, 2013 08:22 PM (5H6zj)

103 Hmmm, Sex-jihad here I come?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2013 08:22 PM (yxILP)

104 F--k you, McCain.

How's that for civilized, my friend?

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 25, 2013 08:22 PM (/sohm)

105 well i have been in the anyone but Obama, ayers, dorhn,vanjones ideaology leadership camp.
but i have become 'concerned' that voting gop would now make a huge difference?

talk me down please!

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:22 PM (nqBYe)

106 Well she is approaching the shreiking wraith look, first in Julianne's Bender,
as I've dubbed her bad caricature, and now she's doing Piper Lauries' role in Carrie, which is completely over the top, jumping the sharknado.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 25, 2013 08:22 PM (Jsiw/)

107 Was there any truth to the rumor that Jeffords was not the Senator that was going to switch to the D party in 2000? That it was actually the esteemed ass hole from AZ?

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2013 08:22 PM (D+lxs)

108 now make*

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (nqBYe)

109
and notice how fucking harry reid is able to slander republicans with impunity, to basically hint for months that he had secret Romney tax secrets...and McCain is pissed at Cruz.
The GOP should have Reid and Pelosi as the poster boys for the inept, dishonest, corrupt democrat party.
And McCain and his bile should be pointed outward, not inward.
It makes me wonder who actually works on McCain's staff because those fuckers need to drop some science on Grampa.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (1RFUG)

110
Sex jihad sure sounds like fun! Sex with hundreds of guys in a short period of time and you end up pregnant and with AIDS.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (T0Pku)

111 So does Arizona have a recall law?

Posted by: Iblis at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (9221z)

112 68
I hate that shit. I understand that politics are politics, and sometimes a little palm greasing is a necessary evil. That sometimes perfect is the enemy of good. But dammit, these people were elected to represent the people of the US of A and they get away with abusing that power over and over again.

Because we (voters in general) let them. Over and over again.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 08:13 PM (X9Mnx)


That's why Senators were supposed to represent their *state*.

Repeal the fucking 17th amendment. I have grown to hate it even more than the 16th.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

113 Bret Baier ‏@BretBaier 1m
Sen Harry Reid has sped up the process on CR-the biggest vote in this processa cloture vote to cut off all debate on CR…will now come Friday

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (DmNpO)

114 I almost threw my remote through the tv screen when McCain started his elections have consequences and I'm offended by your characterization and had to speak up bullshit. So, is the only election that has consequences the one of the President? If so, why does he fight so hard every time his comes up?

Posted by: no good deed at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (k55Fc)

115 Hey McCain, when you're even pissing off the moderates in the party, you're doing something wrong. Change parties or retire.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 25, 2013 08:24 PM (GrtrJ)

116 OK, in my defense. My wife has really really big tits.

Posted by: Fred Thompson at September 25, 2013 08:24 PM (wR+pz)

117 no one elected to federal office can be recalled

Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 25, 2013 08:24 PM (omBWL)

118 i just hope they run someone that speaks well, doesn't have back surgery and can really offer'hope' for recovery.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:24 PM (nqBYe)

119 Last spring I read syrians complaining about foreign women going their to service jihadists. I thought they were just being derogatory but I guess not. There is not one good think about islam.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:25 PM (T0Pku)

120 Can I have that 2008 vote back?

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 25, 2013 08:25 PM (GrtrJ)

121
And Reagan would never survive in a party that nominates hardcore conservatives like Romney and McCain.
***
I know, right? Today's GOP that is totally held hostage by Tea Party Hobbits is on a purity quest that not even Reagan could satisfy. We should look to the rational, sciency wizards that the DNC has. They clearly and rationally look at issues and come up with a solution that best fits the goals and needs of the middle class.

And by middle class, I mean illegals, gheys, and union thugs. And by gheys, I mean gheys and the professorship out there.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:25 PM (1RFUG)

122 My only regret is that I have but one vagina to give for my jihad.

Posted by: Jihadi Jane at September 25, 2013 08:25 PM (k55Fc)

123 Well she is approaching the shreiking wraith look, first in Julianne's Bender,
as
I've dubbed her bad caricature, and now she's doing Piper Lauries' role
in Carrie, which is completely over the top, jumping the sharknado.

--

I can see your dirty pillows.

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at September 25, 2013 08:26 PM (XB5Ak)

124 Juan McMyfriends is the poster boy for "Elections Have Consequences".

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:26 PM (pcgW1)

125 Unlike a lot of you, I don't have the shame of voting for that fuck. I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2013 08:26 PM (APJIX)

126 Hello unclean kuffar! Sometimes over here fighting against the Zionist-Crusader alliance (but mostly other Muslims) can get very lonely. A muta with a Lebanese girl would be the best thing for a lonely Mujahideen, but Abu Osama Kuwaiti never gives us a weekend off for travel. And the rafidite Shia dogs in Lebanon....ululululul. Allahu Akbar! Anyway. So what is a glorious shahid to do? Jihad al-Nikah, my brothers.
Allah's sloppy seconds, and thirds, and fourths, well you get it, are completely halal as found in the Quran. Wait, no, as made up by the ulama all over the Dar-al-Islam. And Allah (SAW), I mean some bearded guys, know best.

Posted by: Mohammed Jihad Shahid Salahuddin at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (sOtz/)

127
Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (pcgW1)


May be if Bachmann had not been running, we would have gotten Pawlenty as the RINO squish candidate. She was effective in dashing his charismatic run for president.

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (D+lxs)

128 Did he feel like he got stabbed in the back in a
previous presidential election? He seems to have the GOP on his
personal hate-list.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 25, 2013 08:04 PM (yETln)

He's always been an asshole, remember McCain-Feingold?

Posted by: KG at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (IPz9m)

129 Ah got ta keep on keepin' on

HUH

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (8sCoq)

130 Hell the hysteria over everything Perry came from the--



Punditocracy.


That's not fair.

Tell me you didn't cringe when he had his "Three things" debate brainfart. I was on Team Perry, but I know I sure did.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (X9Mnx)

131 For instance, not only did the original “underwear bomber” Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri hide explosives in his rectum to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef—they met in 2009 after the 22-year-old Asiri “feigned repentance for his jihadi views”—but, according to Shi’ite talk-show host Abdullah Al-Khallaf, he had fellow jihadis sodomize him to “widen” his anus to fit more explosives.

Right. It had to be a penis...

These people are so fucking stupid. lol!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (T0Pku)

132
I love Lone Watie. The book had him as a stereotypical stoic Noble Indian Warrior. The book is terrible, BTW. One of the very few books that got significantly better when Hollywood got ahold of it.

Hey McCain! Horned toads can tell you which way to go. The horned toad says you should go f-ck yourself!

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (dKCMD)

133 96 Malkin and Bachman made Romney the Republican nominee? Who knew?
Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:21 PM (pcgW1)


*************

Well the fact that it took so long for Romney to win the damn extended protracted Republican Primary should tell you--

it wasn't the great all powerful Establishment--now was it?

How the hell did we manage to elect the only person in all of America to implement a state run health care plan as the leader in the fight against Obama and ObamaCare?

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (r2PLg)

134 120 Can I have that 2008 vote back?


I just want the $50K I have wasted on these fucking idiots back.

Think if I had bought Sirius at $.33 then. Now $3.50

Fuck them all.

Posted by: John Smith at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (wR+pz)

135 i just hope they run someone that speaks well, doesn't have back surgery and can really offer'hope' for recovery.


Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:24 PM (nqBYe)



So. You're saying we're fucked then.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (Gk3SS)

136 Fuck John McCain. Fucking traitor.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (ZPrif)

137 Oh everyone just loved!-loved! -loved! McCain when he was leading the rebellion against a sitting war time president.
Posted by: tasked at September 25, 2013 08:12 PM (r2PLg)

I’m Sorry Tasker, but when I cut and paste your posts it changes it to tasked!

The media also loved him when he was a Maverick in 1999-2000 if I remember correctly.
HE didn’t show such respect to GWB as he does TFG! Gee, I have two guesses. One is he lost to GWB and second is well, you guys, he is not a racist.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:28 PM (z4WKX)

138 The only reashon I don't shwitch partiesh ish that there'sh so shuch thing as a maverick Democrat.

Posted by: Shenator McLame at September 25, 2013 08:28 PM (WMsq+)

139 (notices sudden memory-holing of Y+zSY)


Saw that comin'.

Posted by: Jayne at September 25, 2013 08:28 PM (TCWb5)

140 Remember it is McCain who wants to get us into WWIII ASAP and on the advisement of a fraud student essentially financed by Islamic "moderates" aka jihadists; so, whatever you think of him, he's worse.

Fcuk McCain and the Graham he rode in on.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (eHIJJ)

141 It made absolutely no sense to elect Romney.



Anyone with common sense who wanted to take ObamaCare head on knew that.


Mitt could have won, but he played 'smart politics -' don't rock the boat, hammer on gasoline and jobs, don't get too aggressive.

Benghazi came and went, Fast and Furious went unmentioned, everything was put on hold and considered 'dangerous' - the only way to win was to focus on gasoline and jobs.

That's not entirely Mitt's fault either. Mitt was given very, very bad advice that he paid top dollar for. The only thing the professional punditry was able to do was convince him he didn't even need to write a concession speech and to pay for fireworks.

And then there was the faux-organization which Mitt had. We should have realized his organization was mostly smoke and mirrors when he lost primaries to guys like Huckabee or Santorum. Poor Mitt paid millions for ORCA and the program broke. The Dems nuked us on GOTV.

Mitt Romney's general election of 2012 was like the Union at the First Battle of Bull Run.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (uhAkr)

142 And this position that McCain burbled out is sort of an establishment acceptance of the ratchet doctrine. All liberal gains are permanent and cannot be touched while the liberal battle is never over until liberal gains are made.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (1RFUG)

143
McCain should be trussed up like a hog, with a ball gag in his mouth and dumped on a Vietnam beach with a sign around his neck that says:


"You caused this asshole to be an even bigger asshole! Now you deal with him."

Posted by: ExSnipe at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (57ubW)

144 122 My only regret is that I have but one vagina to give for my jihad.
Posted by: Jihadi Jane at September 25, 2013 08:25 PM (k55Fc)


You got a backdoor, too. Don't hold out now..

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (T0Pku)

145 So. You're saying we're fucked then.


Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (Gk3SS)

well if smod keeps stalling .
yes.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (nqBYe)

146 That dude McCain is like an earwig.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 25, 2013 08:29 PM (qyfb5)

147 A Horned-toad can tell you which way to go. This Horned-toad tells me for you to go to hell, John McCain.

Posted by: Lone Watie at September 25, 2013 08:30 PM (DHQv9)

148 Hey act-

I thought you would like this. I was visiting a customer last year in Chile. We went to visit one of their customers that was located in the Antofagasta region, middle of friggin nowhere but gorgeous, right at the base of the Andes.

Stopped to have lunch in this little locals only type cafe/bar. Dark, pisco sours, lots of great veggies. Anywho, I was sitting in the corner of the place at this little table with my back about 6 inches from the wall and one of the guys asked me if I had heard about the corner spiders.

I thought he was busting my balls. Yea, ok, you got the yankee. Yuck, yuck. He then stands up with a napkin in his hand and lunges at me like he is going to smother me and smashes into the wall right to the left of my head. Throws the napkin on the table and says "Corner spider".

Aka Brown Recluse. Deadly. Funny fucking Chileans. Didn't sleep much the rest of the week.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:31 PM (g1DWB)

149 130 Hell the hysteria over everything Perry came from the--



Punditocracy.

That's not fair.

Tell me you didn't cringe when he had his "Three things" debate brainfart. I was on Team Perry, but I know I sure did.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 08:27 PM (X9Mnx)


**************

Wait---I'm not being *fair*?

The Punditocracy should never be criticized?

Get them the hell off of the pedestals.

It's ludicrous how people will defend pundits to the death and then toss over Perry who runs a great state for years in a truly conservative fashion.

Ya--life's not fair--that's why Perry lost--but then don't say in the same breath I am not being "fair" to some pundits.

Get the conflict you have in that statement you made?

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:31 PM (r2PLg)

150 >>There is not one good thing about islam.
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches!

You got that right.

Posted by: The goat at September 25, 2013 08:31 PM (DI+ja)

151 What did the activist left do when the "New Democrats" were ascendant in the 90s? When the "New Democrats" were campaigning on welfare reform and tax cuts?

They purged them. And forced the rest to move left.

They didn't accept their fate. They declared war, drove the hated New Democrats from the party, and took over. Then they raised taxes and gutted welfare reform. And the called Bill "first Black president" Clinton a racist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 25, 2013 08:31 PM (ZPrif)

152 Here's a funny joke from 2006 -

Blue Dog Democrat.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 08:32 PM (uhAkr)

153 Is that asshat running for reelection? Because if he is I will quit my job, tan for the next year, practice some shitty English and sneak across the Az border to vote against him. Twice

Posted by: Molly k. at September 25, 2013 08:32 PM (TWR/K)

154 #133 tasker

People get nominated and elected because they have Big Money behind them. If you don't like "Establishment", call it what you will.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:32 PM (pcgW1)

155 atc not act.

Damn auto correct.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:32 PM (g1DWB)

156 John McCain? If it weren't for his Pa and Grandpa, he couldn't have gotten into Old Navy, never mind the Naval Academy

Posted by: Admiral Rickover at September 25, 2013 08:32 PM (Pr6hk)

157 142 And this position that McCain burbled out is sort of an establishment acceptance of the ratchet doctrine.

McCain is a very very very stupid man who wants to be thought of as smart.

And to go back to what Ace was saying earlier today, there's no cheaper way to get credit for intellect than spout the leftist conventional wisdom.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:33 PM (xSegX)

158 And then there was the faux-organization which Mitt had. We should have realized his organization was mostly smoke and mirrors when he lost primaries to guys like Huckabee or Santorum. Poor Mitt paid millions for ORCA and the program broke. The Dems nuked us on GOTV.

*************

Damn it--that is exactly right Bevel.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:33 PM (r2PLg)

159 Bret Baier þ@BretBaier 1m

Sen Harry Reid has sped up the process on CR-the biggest vote in this processa cloture vote to cut off all debate on CR…will now come Friday


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 08:23 PM (DmNpO)


Oh. Just like Ted Cruz proposed to do this morning in a [something] he offered that Reid flat rejected.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 25, 2013 08:33 PM (BAS5M)

160 hands alex a large strawberry margarita.

we might as well go down high.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:33 PM (nqBYe)

161 >>>It's ludicrous how people will defend pundits to the death and then
toss over Perry who runs a great state for years in a truly conservative
fashion.



Ya--life's not fair--that's why Perry lost--but then don't say in the same breath I am not being "fair" to some pundits.

you also forget that there were many of the Purity Wing who already had a mind to reject him based on border issues and Pam Gellar silliness and then rejected him with the "have no heart" remark.

The "3 things" brainfart came when he was already way behind and some of us were still hoping he'd get back into the game. He didn't; he screwed the pooch.

But he'd already fallen from first to like fourth by then.


Posted by: ace at September 25, 2013 08:33 PM (/IWYB)

162 Don't blame me, I voted for JD Hayworth.

And for what it's worth, I have called and sent numerous emails and made countless phone calls to McCain's office over the years. I've *never* heard back from anyone, ever. Let alone the courtesy of a reacharound (from Meggers, I would hope).

Posted by: jakeman at September 25, 2013 08:33 PM (vH4YP)

163 McCain is fine with socialized medicine as long as he and his sons and grandson keep getting to be Naval warrior-statesmen and there's at least 1 war every 5 years.

He doesn't give a shit about an ever growing State. He just wants to keep blowing shit up and getting boats named after his family.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 25, 2013 08:34 PM (ZPrif)

164 i liked perry, as you probably know, but he came out talking like a guy who had no idea what the fuck was going on, like he'd been recruited off the street.


Posted by: ace at September 25, 2013 08:34 PM (/IWYB)

165 Why is it that the "elections have consequences" saying is only invoked when it comes to the POTUS?

How come no one ever pats Obama's little head and says, "Well, no sense fighting the House. Just go along with them and be civilized. After all, elections have consequences!"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 25, 2013 08:34 PM (dfYL9)

166 154 #133 tasker

People get nominated and elected because they have Big Money behind them. If you don't like "Establishment", call it what you will.
Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:32 PM (pcgW1)

***************

Yep, that's true too Marmo.

And it all goes to the media --the irony.

I'll catch you guys later.

Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2013 08:34 PM (r2PLg)

167 McCain called the rebels in Libya heroes, he’s been pictured with AQ in Syria unwittingly. He can’t tell the good guys from the bad.
He & Lindsey want us involved in Syria, do they know want us in Kenya? WTF is it with those two warmongers?

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:35 PM (z4WKX)

168 "Mitt could have won, but he played 'smart politics -' don't rock the
boat, hammer on gasoline and jobs, don't get too aggressive."

And sideline/ignore/ridicule conservatives, especially Tea Party types, whenever possible. An unbelievable Etch-a-sketch candidate.

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 08:35 PM (HjPtV)

169
I believe Romney lost on tactics and strategy.
He was ok otherwise, and he did cream Obama in the first debate (before the media decided it really had to stack the deck and collude with Obama).
The GOTV sucked
The message was too bland...basically letting the most dishonest fucking thug ever to be elected president to skate by on just not getting the job done. I mean, you had a vice pres debate in which Biden told outright lies...lies that Romney should've repeated to Obama's face, instead we had the unique spectacle in which Obama and company just lied about everything.
Also. could the GOP ever match Obama's 2012 message of hiring 100,000 teachers and finally getting the rich to pay taxes?
Also, voter fraud totally doesn't exist and we should totally never worry about it again because worrying about voter fraud is only driving moderates from the party you guys.
Nah, whatever it was inside of Romney that led him to believe that he could run as generic, non-frightening republican was wrong, he should've pulled the Kerry 2004 playbook out and threw everything at Obama. Also, he had so many things that he could have ran to the left of Obama on, especially on surveillance and drones

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:35 PM (1RFUG)

170 Here is how the GOP should have played it.

The House should have proposed a BUDGET that did not include funds for Obamacare. And sent that over and let the Dems sit on it. Then, coming down to the wire, they should have just passed a plain old CR. Because in case no one has noticed, the CR is going on the 2010 or some crap like that because they haven't passed a budget in forever. And the FY 2010 budget or 2009 or however long ago it was existed before Obamacare and therefore Obamacare cannot be funded by a CR based on that budget.

Does that mean the current CR is pretty much unlawful if they try to stick new budget items in? Yeah, but that's another GOP eff up.

Posted by: blaster at September 25, 2013 08:35 PM (4+AaH)

171 let's not rehash the 2012 campaign

let's endeavor to persevere!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5TqIdff_DQ

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:35 PM (8sCoq)

172 ok i know this will make a person or two mad.
But did you see how Cruz was able to debate durbin, reid, etc?
how he didn't get flustered or stutter , after hours of speaking?

no point, just, making a note of it.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:36 PM (nqBYe)

173 "sex jihad"
________________________

Gee, they sure have a lot of nifty ways around their strict religious proscriptions if one does the only truly important thing in that religion - kill other people.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were a pork barbeque and beer jihad, the only religious requisite being that you give some effort to murder Christians/Jews/Miscellaneous.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at September 25, 2013 08:36 PM (nnkXw)

174 No Teleprompter!

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:36 PM (nqBYe)

175 Perry who runs a great state for years in a truly conservative ......

*****

Rick Perry noticeably absent on this bill and Cruz's efforts.

Posted by: Beto at September 25, 2013 08:36 PM (MhA4j)

176 the one thing Perry couldn't afford to do was to introduce himself as a dumber, less knowledgeable, less fluent George W. Bush, and that's exactly what he did.

And that can't be blamed on pundits.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2013 08:37 PM (/IWYB)

177 First, I believe Outlaw Josey Wales is probably the best movie ever made. That has nothing to do with the fact I'm unreconstructed. Secondly, the Native American (I have more than a few drops of that blood) has been oppressed and robbed more than any other ethnicity. The admirable qualities presented in that movie will be needed to save America. If McCain ever had them, they were tortured out of his brain in N.Vietnam. Not saying it's right, just saying it happened. Apparently. The only other reason for his treachery is too horrible to think about.

Posted by: EROWMER at September 25, 2013 08:37 PM (OONaw)

178 Yeah, the liberal fascist Obama-left have hunted down every last Blue Dog Democrat and planted burning crosses in their yard until they bent the knee, became a Republican, or just retired from politics.

The Left knows purity and how to enforce it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 25, 2013 08:37 PM (ZPrif)

179 i liked perry, as you probably know, but he came out talking like a guy
who had no idea what the fuck was going on, like he'd been recruited off
the street.


Yep. The 'three things' gaffe was the end for him. Yes the debates are stupid, which is all the more reason why you should try not to look bad at them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 08:37 PM (uhAkr)

180 Why have a Congress then, John?

The man is an idiot.

Posted by: T. at September 25, 2013 08:38 PM (WZLJx)

181 >>Perry who runs a great state for years in a truly conservative

You mean the guy who endorsed Cruz's Republican opponent in the Texas Senate primary? That truly conservative guy?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:38 PM (g1DWB)

182 i also have to note, he hasn't ran a business .

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:38 PM (nqBYe)

183
He Lindsey want us involved in Syria, do they know want us in Kenya? WTF is it with those two warmongers?
......................


Missle/projectile envy

Posted by: Molly k. at September 25, 2013 08:38 PM (TWR/K)

184 Any Virginia Morons watch the Gov debate? Curious how Cooch did against the slime bag.

Posted by: Pete at September 25, 2013 08:38 PM (2N4Ot)

185 Amerindians haven't been any more oppressed than other ethnic groups. And most of the oppression they endured was from fellow Amerindian tribes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 25, 2013 08:38 PM (ZPrif)

186
yes, we all regret dumping perry now. But he did fuck up bigtime. His open borders nonsense is still nonsense. See the earlier stuff from how Houston has turned into a blue city (a blue city the size of New Jersey)...Thanks open borders nutjobs.
Oh, I forgot the other point on Romney, the GOP had a giftwrapped theme thanks to Gov. Walker. The public was sick of public sector unions. Romney didn't touch that.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:39 PM (1RFUG)

187 From Josey Wales-

"Senator: The war's over. Our side won the war. Now we must busy ourselves winning the peace. And Fletcher, there's an old saying: To the victors belong the spoils.

Fletcher: There's another old saying, Senator: Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.''

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 25, 2013 08:39 PM (aDwsi)

188 I heard Perry on the radio this afternoon where he disagreed with Cruz's tactics and said we need to focus on "fixing" Obamacare.

Fuck that. Obamacare is not fixable.

Perry is dead to me.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

189 McCain called the rebels in Libya heroes, he’s been pictured with AQ in Syria unwittingly.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:35 PM (z4WKX)


I'm not sure it was that unwitting, I think he heard about the sex jihad and rushed on over to lend his support.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 25, 2013 08:39 PM (qyfb5)

190 i really don't think there was any bigger Perry fan than myself -- I wasn't just on the bus, I bought the bus some extra gas -- but watching his debate performances was like watching a horror movie.

By the end I was contenting myself with "Well that's not *terrible,* is it?"

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2013 08:39 PM (/IWYB)

191
John McCain is the anal fissure on the ass of the Republican Party.

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (janHz)

192
**the one thing Perry couldn't afford to do was to introduce himself as a dumber, less knowledgeable, less fluent George W. Bush, and that's exactly what he did.**

my first impression once perry opened his mouth. Now, he's mr. perfect going after Md's corrupt governor.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (1RFUG)

193
Watch Chubs pretending to be black:

http://goo.gl/DGgkAG

She does the head waddle and the hand waving and the fucks.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (T0Pku)

194 Thank you, willow.


*downs in one gulp*


Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (Gk3SS)

195 Oh. Just like Ted Cruz proposed to do this morning in a [something] he offered that Reid flat rejected.

***

Exactly like that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (DmNpO)

196 so who do we have at this point that might be a contender ?

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (nqBYe)

197 who isn't dead to us at this writing?

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (8sCoq)

198 Katy Perry is hawt and all but I don't think she should be President. And I don't even think she is old enough.

Posted by: blaster at September 25, 2013 08:41 PM (4+AaH)

199 It's ludicrous how people will defend pundits to the death and then toss
over Perry who runs a great state for years in a truly conservative
fashion.



Ya--life's not fair--that's why Perry lost--but then don't say in the same breath I am not being "fair" to some pundits.



Get the conflict you have in that statement you made?


No, I don't.

Perry lost, and ultimately Perry was to blame. There's always been a lot of scapegoating- blaming The Establishment, campaign consultants, the media, etc for a preferred candidate losing the nomination.

At the end of the day though, Perry ran an imperfect campaign and lost. It's not the fault of the pundits for noting his campaign wasn't going well. It's their job to notice and write about that stuff.

Might things have been different if, for instance, the conservative field wasn't clogged up with no-shot vanity candidates? Maybe, but I think it unlikely Perry would've beat Obama had he won the nomination instead of Romney.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 08:41 PM (X9Mnx)

200
who isn't dead to us at this writing?


Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:40 PM (8sCoq)



The Brunette?

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:41 PM (Gk3SS)

201 I don't regret my vote for Mc Cain.It was the first time I had ever voted and like a dog with a rolled up newspaper, I'll never forget that lesson. O has fed Mc Cain alot of "your the reasonable republican" shit and he likes being the go to guy. The only person sucking harder on O than Reggie is Mc Cain.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2013 08:41 PM (z/UGx)

202 "ok i know this will make a person or two mad.
But did you see how Cruz was able to debate durbin, reid, etc?
how he didn't get flustered or stutter , after hours of speaking?"I noticed. Cruz was pretty impressive. And he scored points, too. Reid and Durbin (Durbin, twice) personally engaged Cruz on the Senate floor. If Ted Cruz was ineffective, they would have sent Patty Murray out to harass him.

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (HjPtV)

203 >>>At the end of the day though, Perry ran an imperfect campaign and lost.

Incompetent. Imperfect is what anyone runs.


Posted by: ace at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (/IWYB)

204 Not knowing anything at the time about Perry, I had high hopes he would be The One. But he had to shine in the debates, and it just didn't happen. That left a truly uninspiring field.

I wonder if because conservatives are generally small-government types that don't want much to do with government, if that's why we can't find good candidates?

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (pcgW1)

205 More from Josey Wales;

"Josey Wales: Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (aDwsi)

206 jones, lol, i was thinking the same thing..

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (nqBYe)

207 willow: "But did you see how Cruz was able to debate durbin, reid, etc? how he didn't get flustered or stutter , after hours of speaking?"

Cruz is pretty much a bona fide debate Olympian.

He's not successfully stirring s*** up because he gets tongue-tied or rattled easily. With Reid and Durbin, he's just playing with his food.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (eHIJJ)

208 Charles I would have loved John McCain.

Posted by: T. at September 25, 2013 08:43 PM (WZLJx)

209 And for what it's worth, I have called and sent numerous emails and made countless phone calls to McCain's office over the years. I've *never* heard back from anyone, ever. Let alone the courtesy of a reacharound (from Meggers, I would hope).
**************
I've lived and voted in AZ for decades, and have contacted McCain's office several times. Never received any type of response -- not even the standard form e-mail (thank you for contacting me, I care deeply about these issues, etc.). I don't expect the man to respond to every nut who contacts him, but you think he'd at least pretend to care when his own constituents make the effort.

When Giffords was my congresswoman, she bombarded me with e-mails, phone calls, and letters, and her successor Barber does the same. But not McCain. The only time I ever hear from him is when election time rolls around and he's begging for money.

McCain's such a douche he can't even run an efficient Senate office.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 25, 2013 08:43 PM (/sohm)

210 Concerning the sex jihad, gonna have to get a givafuk meter that reads in the negative, Muslim whores with aids, ain't that a bitch. Their reward will be a syphilatic goat in hell.

Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2013 08:43 PM (+SU7n)

211 So my understanding is that Miss Lindsey is in considerable hot water now, going into next year's re-election cycle, with multiple primary challengers queued up, and only 30% of South Carolina's Republican voters reporting any willingness to vote for Graham. (What pissed them off? Syria.)

Hopefully, if that transpires, the loss of his closest Senate ally will demoralize McCain into retiring.

Hayworth was never a credible primary threat, but if there is a credible primary threat in the future, and if Graham is already gone, my read is that McCain will fold, and opt not to stand in the primary. He couldn't psychologically stomach a second public rejection.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 08:44 PM (gqT4g)

212 I just want everyone to know, I almost made a snarky comment about Mike Castle but I held back.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 08:44 PM (uhAkr)

213 @111: "So does Arizona have a recall law?"

In a manner of speaking, yes.

Posted by: Zombie Fred White, Tombstone Town Marshal at September 25, 2013 08:44 PM (FsqHK)

214
Cake Girl isn't dead to us.
Ryan. He's dead to us. But Cake Girl is still in our good graces. And by good graces, I mean spank bank.

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2013 08:44 PM (janHz)

215 Sex jihad? Welcome to the party, pal. That D9 was merely the last and only non-PLO body to crush me like a pancake during my odyssey.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at September 25, 2013 08:45 PM (6WVi+)

216 >>Might things have been different if, for instance, the conservative field wasn't clogged up with no-shot vanity candidates? Maybe, but I think it unlikely Perry would've beat Obama had he won the nomination instead of Romney.

I agree. People seem to forget how hard it is to beat an incumbent. It is incredibly difficult, particularly against a "historic first" with the entire media behind them, the debate moderators tipping the scales, and let's be honest, the bureaucracy ( hello IRS )cheating like hell.

2016 is an open contest and while it won't be a level playing field, it never is for Republicans, it will be at least less one sided.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:45 PM (g1DWB)

217 In an alternate version of reality we have a "bipartisan" version of BambiCare called...

"McCainCare"

FUJM

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 25, 2013 08:46 PM (4/o9U)

218 He's not successfully stirring s*** up because he
gets tongue-tied or rattled easily. With Reid and Durbin, he's just
playing with his food.


Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 08:42 PM (eHIJJ)

see i'm not in love or anything yet. (glares at room) but i would have given Anything today for Cruz to be able to debate Obama , Biden.
and i know he needs other skills. unless we compare to biden or obama of course.cough

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:46 PM (nqBYe)

219 I wonder if because conservatives are generally small-government types that don't want much to do with government, if that's why we can't find good candidates?

Basically, yes. The idealistic ones want to be sculptors in crafting a perfect world. Corrupt people make a beeline to leftism because it's a philosophy that provides a pipeline for the flow of corruption.

This is their highest aspiration. It's why Hillary can talk about Huma dumping Carlos Danger.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:46 PM (xSegX)

220 Oh and I will never contribute or vote for Christie. What he did in the last days of the campaign are unforgivable and blunted the momentum Romney was building.

Fuck you, selfish fat fuck.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:47 PM (g1DWB)

221 @164 ace
I still like Perry, in theory. His credentials and success in Texas are top notch. He looks presidential. Then he gaffes, a lot.

Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2013 08:47 PM (sOtz/)

222 "I've lived and voted in AZ for decades, and have contacted McCain's
office several times. Never received any type of response -- not even
the standard form e-mail (thank you for contacting me, I care deeply
about these issues, etc.). I don't expect the man to respond to every
nut who contacts him, but you think he'd at least pretend to care when
his own constituents make the effort."

There was a comment in a previous thread about how the voice mail boxes are constantly reported as "full" at McCain's offices in DC.

I know people who work in that field, and they assure me that if you want a voice mail system that never gets full, that has essentially infinite storage, the modern digital systems can offer you that capability quite cheaply.

What it means when the voice mail boxes are suddenly "full" is not that there is a technological issue. It's that the elected representative you are trying to reach has no interest in being reached by you.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 08:47 PM (gqT4g)

223 About Perry: There's some conjecture that the Perry-Dewhurst-Bush consortium are the ones giving information to the likes of Chris Wallace.

Jeb Bush in particular.

Don't know that it is a viable theory but it's floating around.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 25, 2013 08:47 PM (fzFF6)

224 I'm sorry I must have missed Cake Girl

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:47 PM (8sCoq)

225 Can we please not refer to any candidate to be considered to run against a Democrat in the 2016 Pres. election as "The One"? That has such bad connotations and I don't want the same kind of drooling worship as we got with faux messiah Obama on our side.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2013 08:48 PM (a4Omg)

226 It's a sex jihad from the time I wake up until the time I wake up!

Posted by: Sandra Flook at September 25, 2013 08:48 PM (Dwehj)

227
I cook the best shrimp scampi known to man, and do they call me a top
chef? No! I'm never congratulated for my culinary prowess, but make
one mistake in college and suck one cock, and those bastard republicans
never let me forget. This hatred must stop. No more cocksucker talk.


Posted by: Miss Chris Matthews at September 25, 2013 08:48 PM (pJF+c)

228 joeindc44: "Houston has turned into a blue city (a blue city the size of New Jersey)...Thanks open borders nutjobs."

And the post-Katrina migration which was of enough magnitude that the exodus turned LA red. Houston simply had to turn bluer and acutely so; perhaps even more than the sanctuary city policies from its mayor et al.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 08:48 PM (eHIJJ)

229 Jack Straw, i don't know if we'll have any more advantage then we had 2008 or 2012. The media found out they Can help us Elect the President they want.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 08:48 PM (nqBYe)

230 >>>I still like Perry, in theory. His credentials and success in Texas are
top notch. He looks presidential. Then he gaffes, a lot.

yup.

Who knows, maybe it was just his back surgery.

But I bet you this: He'd tap the same colossal failure of a campaign team that failed to inform him that you can't say "you have no heart" if you oppose the Dream Act.


Posted by: ace at September 25, 2013 08:48 PM (/IWYB)

231 215 Sex jihad? Welcome to the party, pal. That D9 was merely the last and only non-PLO body to crush me like a pancake during my odyssey.
Posted by: Rachel Corrie at September 25, 2013 08:45 PM (6WVi+)


That was the rumour. Anonymous letters had been floating around saying the ISM women were there just to fuck the arab men. Some believe that this motivated Corrie to take risks she wouldn't normally take in order to prove she was a good little terrorist enabler and not just a jihadi squeaktoy.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (T0Pku)

232 but everybody else is dead to me

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (8sCoq)

233 The only mail McStain understands is the get out of fucking office free and forever card found in the ballot box.

Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (+SU7n)

234 Hammer your swords into public pension cares. Without arms, dental filling hoarders will go to the slammer.

Posted by: adams Top Venezuelan Gun porn at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (gQKHE)

235

this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..

90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (GE81t)

236 I signed something from Freedom Works today and within minutes I had a response from Elizabeth Warren. She had letter personalized at the end saying she knows we do not agree on the Affordable Care Act but she likes to hear from her constituents. She must have gotten Kennedy’s former staff. They always responded.

Kerry and Brown never responded, when I called, emailed, signed petitions etc.
This is only an observation here in MA.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (z4WKX)

237 "It's why Hillary can talk about Huma dumping Carlos Danger."

I was just thinking a few hours ago that when/if Hillary loses, she'll be shedding Bill shortly thereafter.

I was also thinking that it has been so long since 1992, that she might get nostalgia "what the heck" votes from GenXers hitting middle-age. We are about the point for 90s retro stuff anyway, in the normal scheme of things.

Posted by: T. at September 25, 2013 08:50 PM (WZLJx)

238 219 I wonder if because conservatives are generally small-government types that don't want much to do with government, if that's why we can't find good candidates?

Basically, yes. The idealistic ones want to be sculptors in crafting a perfect world. Corrupt people make a beeline to leftism because it's a philosophy that provides a pipeline for the flow of corruption.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:46 PM (xSegX)


Exactly. People who eat, sleep, and breathe government will naturally be drawn to government.

That, and the fact that they could never make an honest living in the free market by their skills and their intellect.

The rest of us, who just want to live our lives as we see fit and want government to mostly leave us alone, are at an inherent disadvantage.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

239 235 Not I.Not ever.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 08:51 PM (9XBK2)

240 this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..

90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud

***

I've been taken in by two men only: Fred Thompson and Rick Perry and I still think each would be a far better president than either of the last two candidates.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 08:52 PM (DmNpO)

241

this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..

90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (GE81t)50 bucks says you can't find a single nice thing I Ever said about Fat Bastard Rino. I could smell Rino on that fool from the start. Clue? New Jersey. Thats all you need to know.

Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2013 08:52 PM (+SU7n)

242 Ragamuffin: "Jeb Bush in particular."

Jeb Bush. Karl Rove. Tomato. Tomahto.

It's Rove. He's a direct consulting pipeline to all parties involved including and especially FOX.

Rove. In the Studio. With the Poison Pen.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 08:52 PM (eHIJJ)

243 I was just thinking a few hours ago that when/if Hillary loses, she'll be shedding Bill shortly thereafter.

She doesn't even want to be president. She's being pushed by Bill. I mean, she really wants the validation of winning a presidential election, but she's not interested in the job.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:53 PM (xSegX)

244 I was just thinking a few hours ago that when/if Hillary loses, she'll be shedding Bill shortly thereafter.



I was also thinking that it has been so long since 1992, that she
might get nostalgia "what the heck" votes from GenXers hitting
middle-age. We are about the point for 90s retro stuff anyway, in the
normal scheme of things.

Posted by: T. at September 25, 2013 08:50 PM (WZLJx)



I have fun asking people if the Clintons are married or divorced. I'd say 85+% of people start to say divorced then stop and go "huh".


Not one single person I've asked that question considers them really married.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:53 PM (Gk3SS)

245 this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..



90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud


What does that prove? We liked him based on some YouTube videos, then he did stuff and we realized he's a fat asshole.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 08:53 PM (uhAkr)

246 I can't really imagine McCain doing this if he were about to be executed?:

At nearly 2.00 o’clock in the afternoon, Charles was led to the scaffold which was covered in black cloth. He had asked to wear thick underclothes under his shirt as he was very concerned that if he shivered in the cold, the crowd might think that he was scared.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2013 08:54 PM (a4Omg)

247 i just put CSPAN2 on. Mitch just said we have representative democracy! We have a republic, doesn’t this idiot know this by now?

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:54 PM (z4WKX)

248
If John McCain was starving I wouldn't give him so much as the crust from an un-frosted Pop-Tart.
If he was at risk of dying from thirst, however, I would consider it.

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2013 08:54 PM (janHz)

249 "this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..
90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud
"

My superbly reliable RINO detector never fails.

What principle does it rely upon? Gun control.

It screamed like a banshee the instant I typed in Extra Christie.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 08:54 PM (gqT4g)

250 This all reminds of the quote from Ann Coulter that I am about to butcher, but it is something to the effect that no law is settled until it goes in the Democrats favor: then it is engraved in stone.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 25, 2013 08:54 PM (lxc0s)

251 50 bucks says you can't find a single nice thing I Ever said about Fat Bastard Rino. I could smell Rino on that fool from the start. Clue? New Jersey. Thats all you need to know.

Yeah. First, I knew he was at best a moderate Republican. But, hey, good enough for New Jersey, right?

That lovefest with Obama was the most disgusting thing I'd ever seen and then I realized what he really was.

A starckufer.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:55 PM (xSegX)

252
The Five Stages of AOS Candidate Acceptance

1. This guy is someone to watch
2. OH YEAH HE'S BRINGIN' IT BITCHES ELEVENTY
3. Wait. What did he say?
4. RINO!
5. Fuckin' guy's dead to me.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:55 PM (8sCoq)

253 #219

It's a Catch-22 for conservatives. Any highly-principled conservative would have a natural distaste for government and not really want to be a part of it, even though they might be a great champion of the cause. That's what makes a politician like Cruz rare. For conservatives, it's a personal sacrifice. For Democrats, it's a pathway to siphon off taxpayer money for personal gain.

That's what I tell myself, anyway.

There are some good ones, though. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Scott Walker to name a few.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 08:55 PM (pcgW1)

254
maddog, I know you always disliked Christie

the "fat gun grabber" is how you usually referred to him, I believe

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:56 PM (YflNq)

255 >>Jack Straw, i don't know if we'll have any more advantage then we had 2008 or 2012. The media found out they Can help us Elect the President they want.

Media has tilted left all my life. Walter Cronkite was about as far left as could be, that only became obvious after he left and opposing voices finally got heard.

Bush II was far less popular than Obama during his 2nd run, largely because the media hammered him relentlessly. But he was easily re-elected.

The power of incumbency is enormous. 2016 is a wide open election and Obama is already beginning to crater, very early for a 2nd term president. The economy isn't going to rebound and Obamacare is going to be incredibly unpopular.

Hillary and the rest are going to be saddled with his legacy so whomever runs on our side is immediately going to have an easier time than 2012.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 08:56 PM (g1DWB)

256 252 Ha!It's funny because it's true.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (9XBK2)

257 I have fun asking people if the Clintons are married or divorced. I'd say 85+% of people start to say divorced then stop and go "huh".

That never occurred to me. But I guess I do overestimate peoples' awareness.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (xSegX)

258 I remember an awful lot of people swooning over Rubio based entirely on his acceptance speech when he won his Senate race.

I don't remember whether I said anything about it at the time or not, but it certainly did remind me of the emotion-driven cult of personality surrounding Obama.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (sdi6R)

259 I don't give a damn what that delirious, self important, crony infested pustule of a man thinks. Fuck off John.

Posted by: dogfish at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (nsOJa)

260 90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (GE81t)
****************
I wasn't on the Christie bandwagon. When he made those remarks criticizing the people who raised objections to the Ground Zero victory mosque, I knew he was trouble. Then he sided with the state when it fired an employee who had burned his own copy of the Koran on his own property on his own time. Christie is a f--king lawyer, and ought to know a thing or two about the First Amendment, but appeasing Muslim sensibilities was more important to him than upholding an American employee's constitutional rights. Christie's hug and effusive fan-boy praising of Obama just before the election just confirmed what I had already concluded: Christie is a RINO loser who'll never get my vote for any office.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (/sohm)

261 @230

I forgot about the "no heart" comment. It is not that difficult to finesse a tough issue. But it is with a rhetorical sledgehammer.

Show sympathy for kids dragged here by their parents. Then talk about the millions of legal immigrants waiting to get in and fairness. Talk about the need to protect our borders in an era of terrorism and deadly drug gangs.

Or, attack your base's decency and humanity. Doh.

Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (sOtz/)

262 Fickle heart or a backlog of farts?

Posted by: adams levity porn at September 25, 2013 08:58 PM (gQKHE)

263 235

this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..

90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (GE81t)


yep, and that same 90% will be taken in by who ever the GOP establishment puts in front of them in primaries.

and they use the same tired old arguments, use the same tired, old insults.

Normalcy Bias, it's what most people eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Posted by: Shoey at September 25, 2013 08:58 PM (m6OUa)

264 I never swooned over Christie! I think he might be good for NJ, but I know he is not a conservative and had done plenty of things to piss off conservatives in NJ.
Ann Coulter was in love with him.
Do we have to do an exorcism of Jeb Bush now so that we’ll have them all when Rove(Why is he still around?) goes and bad mouths every single conservative candidate that even thinks about running in 2015-2016?

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 08:58 PM (z4WKX)

265 Mobile death squads to kill sick and elderly in their own homes leads to surge in suicide rates in the Netherlands

http://tinyurl.com/ojt2kl5

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM (XvHmy)

266 What do expect, his family has been on the federal payroll for a HUNDRED years. TRUE.

Go back to AZ and spend you wife's beer money.
Posted by: John Smith at September 25, 2013 08:15 PM (wR+pz)

You should qualify that. McCain's father and grandfather were admirals, both of whom were known for their courage and leadership. You make it sound like they were welfare cheats.

McCain's grandfather, Admiral John Sidney 'Slew' McCain, was considered a 'natural, inspirational leader of men' and commanded naval forces against Japan throughout the war, and died 4 days after it ended, of stress and exhaustion. McCain's father, served as a submarine commander in WWII, winning the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, and rose to the command of the United States Pacific Command during the Vietnam War--which was one of the reasons the North Vietnamese so badly wanted John McCain, the Admiral's son, to 'cooperate' with their propaganda efforts.

So yeah, you can just shut the fuck up about the two senior McCains 'being on the federal payroll'. Those men were patriots, great military leaders. They earned their keep.

Posted by: troyriser at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM (ptcFO)

267 Senile or Alzheimer's?
Posted by: Generation Y at September 25, 2013 07:57 PM


Mad Cow Disease.

Closely related to Maddow Disease.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM (jevZa)

268 265 Hey,it's started with pets and they took it to the next level.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM (9XBK2)

269
If John McCain was starving I wouldn't give him so much as the crust from an un-frosted Pop-Tart.
.................................

How about if it you chewed off the edges into the shape of a gun? (hint hint)

Posted by: Molly k. at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM (TWR/K)

270 Not one single person I've asked that question considers them really married.
Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 08:53 PM (Gk3SS)

Especially Bill.

Posted by: T. at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM (WZLJx)

271 The Five Stages of AOS Candidate Acceptance

1. This guy is someone to watch
2. OH YEAH HE'S BRINGIN' IT BITCHES ELEVENTY
3. Wait. What did he say?
4. RINO!
5. Fuckin' guy's dead to me.


Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2013 08:55 PM (8sCoq)



Approximate time to go through stages: 2.52 ONTs.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at September 25, 2013 09:00 PM (Gk3SS)

272 Thank you for your self-service, Senator McCain.


Now go lick a woodchipper's pussy, you nasty, senile piece of shit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2013 09:00 PM (JDIKC)

273 I remember an awful lot of people swooning over Rubio based entirely on his acceptance speech when he won his Senate race.

I liked him because Crist was an asshole.

When Rubio had no record, he said all the right stuff. Then he started getting a record.

Sometimes you get duds. They can't all be Rand or Cruz.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 09:00 PM (uhAkr)

274 Mobile death squads to kill sick and elderly in their own homes leads to surge in suicide rates in the Netherlands

http://tinyurl.com/ojt2kl5
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 25, 2013 08:59 PM


Because, enlightened progressives, bitches!

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 09:01 PM (jevZa)

275 Mobile death squads to kill sick and elderly in their own homes leads to surge in suicide rates in the Netherlands


Now yer talkin'!

Posted by: The Millennials at September 25, 2013 09:01 PM (Dwehj)

276 I wonder if because conservatives are generally small-government types that don't want much to do with government, if that's why we can't find good candidates?

It's not a phenomenon exclusive to the Republican party. Good candidates make it look easy, but it's not.

Dukakis, Gore, Kerry- they didn't relate to Joe Six Pack any better than Romney did. I'm sure many Dems have asked themselves why they can't find good candidates either.

There's a limited pool to choose from. From that pool of Governors and Senators, you have to pick someone eligible, charismatic, experienced (Obama was an unfortunate exception), without too many skeletons in the closet, and overall electability.

There's not as many people fitting those criteria as you might think in a country of 350+ million people.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 09:01 PM (X9Mnx)

277 Time to order my special Deer Season (thank you Lord) home brew supplies. Need 10 gallons to get me through the season.

Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2013 09:01 PM (+SU7n)

278 Christie is a Republican in Geography Only. If he was here in Texas he'd be a Democrat. Pretty much the same for any northeastern Republican politician. RIGO. Turns into "RIGO mortis" so easily.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 25, 2013 09:01 PM (6WVi+)

279 I think McCain went into politics because he realized ge would never succeed in the Navy like his father and grandfather.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 09:02 PM (9XBK2)

280 I don't remember whether I said anything about it at the time or not, but it certainly did remind me of the emotion-driven cult of personality surrounding Obama.
Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 08:57 PM (sdi6R)

I didn't see so much that as I saw the desire to latch upon somebody, anybody, to be the anti-Obama. The Republicans don't have a single, effective leader and that is exacerbating our unity problems.

But in the end there will be only chaos anyway, so let it burn, .

(mostly) joking.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 25, 2013 09:02 PM (Dsds2)

281 Then he sided with the state when it fired an employee who had burned his own copy of the Koran on his own property on his own time. Christie is a f--king lawyer,

Thank you for saying it.

and ought to know a thing or two about the First Amendment, but appeasing Muslim sensibilities was more important to him than upholding an American employee's constitutional rights.

He also defended the appointment of a Muslim lawyer to judge. No big deal, right? Well, this guy specialized in defending terrorists.

"But terrorists need a defense, too!" Yep. And that defender doesn't have to be made a judge. Plenty of other lawyers out there to be made judges. Plenty of them.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 09:02 PM (xSegX)

282 Obligatory I voted for McCain to die in office for this thread since we're over 200 and yinzall missed it.

Posted by: DaveA at September 25, 2013 09:02 PM (DL2i+)

283 it certainly did remind me of the emotion-driven cult of personality surrounding Obama.

But, unlike the Obamabots, when contrary information came in the adulation died away.

You'd have a point if Rubio was still topping polls, but he's not.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 09:03 PM (jevZa)

284 McCain was a pow because he was a shitty pilot. Simple as that. Now he's a shitty politician.

Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2013 09:03 PM (+SU7n)

285 Slew McCain turned his Task Force away from refueling, without orders, to go save the escort carriers at Leyte. Big Damn Hero.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 25, 2013 09:03 PM (P/gm7)

286 Now go lick a woodchipper's pussy, you nasty, senile piece of shit.

Gott in Himmel! Nein!


Posted by: Hilde, the meek Lumberjack's daughter at September 25, 2013 09:03 PM (uhAkr)

287 I've said it before,easily the worst thing about Christie is that he is a fat dhimmi.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 09:04 PM (9XBK2)

288 I think McCain went into politics because he realized ge would never succeed in the Navy like his father and grandfather.


****

Yeahhh. I'm not going there.

I think he succeeded beyond all expectations there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 09:05 PM (DmNpO)

289 "Bush II was far less popular than Obama during his 2nd run, largely
because the media hammered him relentlessly. But he was easily
re-elected."

Bush the Even Lesser (distinct from his father Bush the Lesser), "easily re-elected"?

We were fifty thousand votes in Ohio away from saying hello to President Lurch.

By no means is that "easily re-elected".

Reagan pounding Walter Mondale so hard the only thing left was a grease spot? THAT is being "easily re-elected".

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 09:05 PM (gqT4g)

290 ... another step in a long-term goal of mine: the peaceful, nonviolent disappearance of John McCain.
(h/t Tom Hayden)

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 09:06 PM (jevZa)

291 He was also the only R in the Keating 5.

In 1989 Phoenix New Times writer Tom Fitzpatrick opined that McCain was the "most reprehensible" of the five senators

http://tinyurl.com/MrsLindesyGraham

I may have customized that tiny URL to the article on McCain and the Keating five

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 25, 2013 09:06 PM (6J+oK)

292 I was impressed with Christie when he first made waves taking on the teachers unions. But yeah, the romantic walk on the beach with Bambi right before the election ended my interest in him.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 09:06 PM (pcgW1)

293 AmishDude: "And that defender
doesn't have to be made a judge. Plenty of other lawyers out there to
be made judges. Plenty of them."


I'd prefer to make all of them boat anchors if there's a choice.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 09:06 PM (eHIJJ)

294 I'm sorry I must have missed Cake Girl

Don't say I never gave you anything:

http://minx.cc/?post=331747

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 09:07 PM (X9Mnx)

295 Obama in 2012 won with the same margin Bush won in 2004. They both won 51-48.

If Obama easily won re-election, then so did Bush.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:07 PM (HDgX3)

296 In 1989 Phoenix New Times writer Tom Fitzpatrick opined that McCain was the "most reprehensible" of the five senators

Maybe. I'd always heard he was the least involved of the five, but they needed him to make it a bipartisan scandal.

It really effected him, though. He hated the idea of being thought of as a crook and spent the rest of his career cozying up to the press, seeking absolution.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (xSegX)

297 7 Senile or Alzheimer's?
Posted by: Generation Y

There's a third option. He left his balls in North VietNam. No disrespect to what he went through as a POW, but he hasn't done anything of value since.

And that includes fathering a daughter whose sole talent is hoisting up her jugs with a well engineered bra.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (mHUKK)

298 >>Dukakis, Gore, Kerry- they didn't relate to Joe Six Pack any better than Romney did. I'm sure many Dems have asked themselves why they can't find good candidates either.

Another myth. Reagan wasn't a guy anyone wanted to have a six pack with. He was a great orator but very aloof. And his wife, yeah.

Times make the candidate. Carter was so cataclysmically bad, not to mention a person most people, including the msm, did not like, that a warm cup of spit would have looked good. Toss the Iranian hostage crisis on top and the majority of the country just wanted him gone.

This stuff about people wanting the president to be like them to be like them was manufactured around Billy Jeff and his feeling our pain. Obama used the cool factor to seduce young dummies and womyn who like free condoms.

Pretty sure most of the country is done with cool presidents for a while.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (g1DWB)

299 295 Obama in 2012 won with the same margin Bush won in 2004. They both won 51-48.

If Obama easily won re-election, then so did Bush.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:07 PM (HDgX3)

using math and logic is Racist

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (6J+oK)

300 >>Perry who runs a great state for years in a truly conservative

You mean the guy who endorsed Cruz's Republican opponent in the Texas Senate primary? That truly conservative guy?

Posted by: JackStraw

Cruz spotted Dewhurst ten points of fraud and still won by 13

Posted by: Beto at September 25, 2013 09:09 PM (MhA4j)

301 2004 certainly seemed easy after the 2000 debacle.

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 09:09 PM (9XBK2)

302 "I think McCain went into politics because he realized ge would never succeed in the Navy like his father and grandfather."

Pretty much.

There was a family tradition of martial valor, and he wanted to uphold it. Then realized too late that he wasn't considered admiral material.

When you hear shit like his wanting to crank up a full-scale confrontation with Russia over Georgia, it is pretty clear that the guy is still trying to live up to the family rep for not shirking a fight. Unfortunately, he is a poor judge of what fights are worth starting, or continuing.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 09:09 PM (gqT4g)

303 >>We were fifty thousand votes in Ohio away from saying hello to President Lurch.


How much do you think Romney lost Ohio by?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:09 PM (g1DWB)

304 300 sammiches vs. 100+ jihadi date-rapes. There's a flalawful comedy potential there.

Posted by: DaveA at September 25, 2013 09:09 PM (DL2i+)

305 Okay, that crack about Jugs McCain wasn't fair. She's also good at dying her hair blonde and wearing lots of make-up. Just like her mom. I wonder if she has affairs with married men and gets them to leave their wives like her mom did.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:10 PM (mHUKK)

306 New to me: FBI releases video of Navy Yard shooter http://is.gd/GTRoin

Posted by: toby928© at September 25, 2013 09:10 PM (QupBk)

307 Aids epidemic in the Muslim world.

So what exactly is wrong with that anyway?

Posted by: Rick in MB at September 25, 2013 09:10 PM (j7UPL)

308 hen he sided with the state when it fired an employee who had burned his own copy of the Koran on his own property on his own time. Christie is a f--king lawyer,

Thank you for saying it.

and ought to know a thing or two about the First Amendment, but appeasing Muslim sensibilities was more important to him than upholding an American employee's constitutional rights.

He also defended the appointment of a Muslim lawyer to judge. No big deal, right? Well, this guy specialized in defending terrorists.

"But terrorists need a defense, too!" Yep. And that defender doesn't have to be made a judge. Plenty of other lawyers out there to be made judges. Plenty of them.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 09:02 PM (xSegX)


Thank you both, I couldn’t remember exactly what Christie did to piss off conservatives in NJ.

Has he lost any of that fat since his surgery? I haven’t seen him, not that I look for him.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:10 PM (z4WKX)

309 The Clintons have made a fucking mess out of the clinton foundation. All three of them are now on the payroll. It is mismanaged and has lost millions of dollars.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 09:10 PM (T0Pku)

310 @281
Christie is not quite as bad on Islam as Durbin or Ellison, but he's trying.

Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2013 09:11 PM (sOtz/)

311 Is it possible that a President Kerry would actually have been worse than Obama?

Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 09:11 PM (9XBK2)

312 Caroline Kennedy's son has expressed a desire to go into politics even though he is only about 19. God help us.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 09:12 PM (T0Pku)

313 287 I've said it before,easily the worst thing about Christie is that he is a fat dhimmi.
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2013 09:04 PM (9XBK2)
*****************

Yep, he bends over backwards (no easy feat for somebody that fat) to appease Muslims in every circumstance. It was the first thing about Christie that I noticed, and it did not make a good impression. His willingness to fellate Obama in front of the cameras just days before the election sealed the deal.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 25, 2013 09:12 PM (/sohm)

314 McCain, the Jerry Brown of Republicans...

Posted by: Hillary Eats Huma at September 25, 2013 09:12 PM (vHRtU)

315 How much do you think Romney lost Ohio by?

Our trunkfull of bogus ballots!

Posted by: Cuyahoga County at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (Dwehj)

316 McCain thinks he is in the Roman Senate, and the senatorial class deserves the obsequious obedience of the proles.

Posted by: Invictus at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (FBkKA)

317 You hillbilly gun worshipers lay off my daddy or so help me God, me and this ginormous white ass of mine are making a sex tape.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (x/lJo)

318 Dukakis, Gore, Kerry- they didn't relate to Joe Six Pack any better than Romney did. I'm sure many Dems have asked themselves why they can't find good candidates either.

Another myth. Reagan wasn't a guy anyone wanted to have a six pack with. He was a great orator but very aloof. And his wife, yeah.

Times make the candidate. Carter was so cataclysmically bad, not to mention a person most people, including the msm, did not like, that a warm cup of spit would have looked good. Toss the Iranian hostage crisis on top and the majority of the country just wanted him gone.

This stuff about people wanting the president to be like them to be like them was manufactured around Billy Jeff and his feeling our pain. Obama used the cool factor to seduce young dummies and womyn who like free condoms.

Pretty sure most of the country is done with cool presidents for a while.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (g1DWB)






____________________



Yes and no. For people like us, who follow politics and actually know what the fuck is going on, personality doesn't matter. Give me the biggest asshole in the world and I'll vote for him/her if he/she agrees with me on the issues.

But most Americans are not like us. Most Americans have no fucking clue what is happening. They vote on "do I want to have a beer with him" type of stuff. It sucks, but it's the way the world is. And Democrats seem to have more cool/hip people than we do.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (HDgX3)

319 Wasn't it John Kerry that asked Mccain to be his vp because of his love of strong republicanism?

Posted by: Phil at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (QzdcC)

320 File under: Hahahahahaha!

HA headline:

Uh oh: D.C. ObamaCare exchange announces website won’t be able to calculate subsidies until November

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (HjPtV)

321 The Clintons are married for political reasons only. They would have divorced years ago if he wasn’t POTUS and she doesn’t plan to run in 2016. I think by 2016 the LIVs might have had enough of the dems and want change.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (z4WKX)

322 We were fifty thousand votes in Ohio away from saying hello to President Lurch.

So, anybody know how many Somali refugees were brought in during the last four years of Bush's term?

Remember the pics of bussed in Somalis lining up at the Ohio polls? I do.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (jevZa)

323 "In 1989 Phoenix New Times writer Tom Fitzpatrick opined that McCain was the 'most reprehensible' of the five senators"

The Phoenix _New Times_? Criminy.

I'm always ready to think the worst of McCain, but those regional alternative newspapers are seething fever swamps of the worst sort of lefty moonbat nonsense.

By my lights, McCain was the least culpable of the Keating Five.

If we're going to indict the guy for stuff, let's at least make sure that it is stuff he is actually to blame for. There's enough on that list to go around.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2013 09:14 PM (gqT4g)

324 Evening fake friends in a box. I checked out after Cruz ended his "speech". Have I missed any fresh hell?

Other than Cory Booker tweeting with a stripper. (decent set of boobehs on her btw)

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:14 PM (GEICT)

325 Someone just tweeted that Tamara Holder compared Cruz to John Wayne Gacy.

They are certifiably fucking insane.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 09:14 PM (DmNpO)

326 The Clintons Obamas are married for political reasons only. They would have divorced years ago if he wasn’t POTUS ....

FTFY

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 09:14 PM (jevZa)

327 317 You hillbilly gun worshipers lay off my daddy or so help me God, me and this ginormous white ass of mine are making a sex tape.
Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (x/lJo)

That crossed my red line and changed my calculus. I am launching projectile vomit in 3, 2, ...

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 25, 2013 09:14 PM (6J+oK)

328 Has there ever been a panoramic sex tape before?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:15 PM (0axsw)

329 When you hear shit like his wanting to crank up a full-scale confrontation with Russia over Georgia, it is pretty clear that the guy is still trying to live up to the family rep for not shirking a fight.

When you're in the military, you're free to not shirk from a fight because you, by and large, don't get to pick which fights you are sent into.

It's about courage and valor, but not about judgement.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 09:16 PM (xSegX)

330 But most Americans are not like us. Most Americans have no fucking clue what is happening. They vote on "do I want to have a beer with him" type of stuff. It sucks, but it's the way the world is. And Democrats seem to have more cool/hip people than we do.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (HDgX3)



My great grandmother voted for who she found most attractive.

My dad asked her way back when "Grandma, why did you vote for Kennedy?" "Well, he's an attractive man." "Right, but why did you vote for him?" "I just told you."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:16 PM (GEICT)

331 Please horde help a jr ron out.
What is this 'CR' regarding fund, unfunding No-care?
TIA

I'll read 25-SEP ONT when the sunsets in Gulf Thursday.

Have a good night.

Posted by: Forty Baht Barry at September 25, 2013 09:16 PM (2Ssde)

332 "Has there ever been a panoramic sex tape before?"

Would that be something like IMAX?

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 09:17 PM (HjPtV)

333 Well I guess there really are some "republicans" that do want to implement obamacare just like Ted Cruz said.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 25, 2013 09:17 PM (mn6yY)

334 So, a lot of people will have their hours and incomes cut, some people will lose their jobs completely, some employers will stop providing insurance and dump their people on the exchanges, affirmative action rules in Obamacare will force medical schools to take students who aren't smart enough to get in on their own, and people will be forced to pay for insurance that is mandated to have coverages that they don't want or need.

Oh, and people who once had their insurance provided by their employers, or who (like me) were willing to pay for their own insurance, will be dumped on exchanges and will be an added expense to the taxpayers because the insurance on the exchanges is subsidized for many people.

So Dickless McCain thinks we should be nicer about.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:17 PM (mHUKK)

335 Pretty sure most of the country is done with cool presidents for a while.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (g1DWB)


I'm afraid you have far more confidence in the electorate than I do.

Since the beginning of the TV era, if you were to point to the candidate the average person would rather share a six-pack with, you'd be pointing at the next President.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 09:18 PM (X9Mnx)

336 They are certifiably fucking insane.

And irredeemably stupid, it seems.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2013 09:18 PM (a4Omg)

337 332 That's the one where your camera snaps the horizon.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:18 PM (0axsw)

338 309 The Clintons have made a fucking mess out of the clinton foundation. All three of them are now on the payroll. It is mismanaged and has lost millions of dollars.
******************

A couple of weeks ago the Daily Mail had an article about Chelsea Clinton's $10 million-dollar-plus NYC apartment, overlooking Central Park. Complete with photos of her huge, professionally decorated pad, with its sweeping views. A couple of days ago, there was an article about how the Clinton Foundation has spent more than $50 million on just flying folks around first class.

Political corruption sure does pay well, doesn't it?

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 25, 2013 09:18 PM (/sohm)

339 this might be a good time to dig up comments from 24 months ago swooning over Chris Christie..

90% of you were taken in by the Fat Fuck Fraud

Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 08:49 PM (GE81t


Yes I think totally that acting like a stereotypical shrewish wife and hectoring people makes them totally want to be like you and join your club.

Or wait maybe they would want to do the other thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 25, 2013 09:18 PM (qyfb5)

340 My great grandmother voted for who she found most attractive.

My dad asked her way back when "Grandma, why did you vote for Kennedy?" "Well, he's an attractive man." "Right, but why did you vote for him?" "I just told you."
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:16 PM (GEICT)

__________

My wife first voted in 2000. She voted for Gore because

a) all her friends were voting for him

and

b) she liked Tipper and though Laura was kind of cold

DISCLAIMER: I met her in 2002 and by 2004 I had her wearing a BUSH 2004 button

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (HDgX3)

341 The Clintons have made a fucking mess out of the clinton foundation. All three of them are now on the payroll. It is mismanaged and has lost millions of dollars.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 09:10 PM (T0Pku)


You expected anything else from them?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (XvHmy)

342 Poor John such good credentials and all the pedigree and we get a declawed paper pussy cat..

Posted by: Jet Built Around Cannon at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (4L2D1)

343 Political corruption sure does pay well, doesn't it?

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 25, 2013 09:18 PM (/sohm)


Thus it's enduring popularity throughout the ages.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (qyfb5)

344 284 McCain was a pow because he was a shitty pilot. Simple as that. Now he's a shitty politician.
Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2013 09:03 PM (+SU7n)


See this is one aspect of internet commenting (and human nature) that I really dislike. Because we hate someone now, we must therefore go back in time and negate everything they've ever done.

Because it seems really hard for a lot of people to acknowledge that someone might be good in one area of life and a fool in another. Despite the fact that we encounter this very aspect of people every single damn day in our own lives. But in internet comments you must either be 100% awesome or 100% shitty.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (pAlYe)

345 Remember the pics of bussed in Somalis lining up at the Ohio polls? I do.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM (jevZa)

Columbus, Ohio has the second largest Somali community in U.S

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 25, 2013 09:20 PM (FaZT2)

346 Here is post from this afternoon, person who worked for McStain:

601
Well I'll contribute my own first-hand intel on McCain. This is long before 1998. About a decade. His nickname among staff (incl. much of his own) was "Psycho". I spent lots of time around him in the Senate. He is not very bright (the poor performance at Annapolis was not just personality-driven).

Executive summary: he's not very smart, and he's a very, very, very nasty piece of psycho work.

One of two nights I can recall in my entire life where I couldn't sleep (not due to jetlag or too much coffee after the long long flights), one was the day McCain clinched the nomination in 2008. Oh - for the record, I couldn't believe a for a second that a candidate as ridiculous as Obama could ever be elected, even though I recognized the US had become a fairly unserious, hysterical country (Iraq, Katrina). So the idea was that McCain would be president - and I have never been around someone as unfit for executive work as he is in my life - wouldn't let me sleep.

Posted by: non-purist at September 25, 2013 01:17 PM (afQnV)

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:20 PM (z4WKX)

347 "Columbus, Ohio has the second largest Somali community in U.S"

Whoa.

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 09:21 PM (HjPtV)

348 @ 344 See Radical President

Posted by: Jet Built Around Cannon at September 25, 2013 09:21 PM (4L2D1)

349 I saw Sex Jihad open for Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers this summer.

Posted by: EC at September 25, 2013 09:22 PM (doBIb)

350 You know what's funny? Ted Cruz is a maverick now.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2013 09:22 PM (PjgvN)

351 But most Americans are not like us. Most Americans have no fucking clue what is happening. They vote on "do I want to have a beer with him" type of stuff. It sucks, but it's the way the world is. And Democrats seem to have more cool/hip people than we do.

It's not just the beer thing.

There's a sort of definition of cool that Obama benefits from even though he's aloof, cold and kind of a jerk.

I really would rather talk with Mitt one-on-one, even if he only drinks lemonade, than a whole host of other people -- even ones I disagree with less.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 09:22 PM (xSegX)

352 Because it seems really hard for a lot of people to acknowledge that someone might be good in one area of life and a fool in another. Despite the fact that we encounter this very aspect of people every single day in our own lives. But in internet comments you must either be 100% awesome or 100% shitty.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (pAlYe)



Personally, I thank him for his service to the country. Now GTFO of the Senate.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:22 PM (GEICT)

353 Posted by: Mætenloch at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (pAlYe)

Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (a4Omg)

354 @69 Michele Bachmann was my Congresswoman until redistricting took the pretty red MN 56B out of her congressional district. (Now I am "represented" by Red Betty McCollum, a true Marxist in the Enver Hoxha mold.) That redistricting was the same one that bled all the red out of Rep. West's district in FL.
She is a tax lawyer. Since her diploma is not from the Ivy League, that mus mean, to the typical Loyalist Remnant denizen of the N.E. Corridor, that she is a cretin, or a moron. In a very real sense, in the sense we understand those terms, she is; but she is no dummy, and certainly no nut. You may not like the fact that she's a Christian, and that she's very pro-Second Amendment, but that is normal in fly-over country, if not in the land of the lovers of George III.

Posted by: Cretin, cetrifugin' moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (aXmcp)

355 >>But most Americans are not like us. Most Americans have no fucking clue what is happening. They vote on "do I want to have a beer with him" type of stuff. It sucks, but it's the way the world is. And Democrats seem to have more cool/hip people than we do.

See I don't believe that. I think a lot of it has to do with packaging, sure. But a lot has to do with the times. And of course, the media.

Nobody on this or any other planet thinks Hillary is cool. Lets see how many people want to have a beer with her when the unemployment rate is back around 8%, Obamacare is crushing people and the world is far more dangerous than it is now.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (g1DWB)

356 The Clintons left Whitewater Savings and Loan in a similar state.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (0axsw)

357 McCain wanted to fly planes really bad. And he did.

Then he wanted to legislate really bad. And he did.

Really bad. Both of those things.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 09:25 PM (pcgW1)

358 298
This stuff about people wanting the president to be like them to be like them was manufactured around Billy Jeff and his feeling our pain. Obama used the cool factor to seduce young dummies and womyn who like free condoms.

Pretty sure most of the country is done with cool presidents for a while.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:08 PM (g1DWB)


Nah, it goes way back. I can remember people in the 70s being thrilled that Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer who wore blue jeans. Plus he went by "Jimmy". And he had a wacky but lovable brother Billy who had a beer named after him. See, he was a regular guy.

Ronald Reagan chopped wood on his ranch, Harry Truman was a haberdasher, Abraham Lincoln was a rail-splitter, Teddy Roosevelt was a hunter, Andrew Jackson was a populist, and even the rich patrician FDR managed to connect on some level with desperately poor people during the Depression.

America has traditionally been a classless society (more or less, compared to other societies), and most political leaders have felt the need to relate to ordinary people. This often takes the form of self-effacing humor.

On the other hand, there's Obama, who is utterly incapable of laughing at himself and unapologetically lives a life of luxury befitting a Third World dictator.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 09:25 PM (sdi6R)

359 But in internet comments you must either be 100% awesome or 100% shitty.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 25, 2013 09:19 PM (pAlYe)

I prefer the Ivory soap line of thought, to wit someone can be good at something but still 99 44/100% shitty at life

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 25, 2013 09:25 PM (6J+oK)

360 Term limits. 1 term and you're out. Doesn't give you any time to develop bad habits like visiting K street.

Posted by: apple's number 1 fangirl at September 25, 2013 09:25 PM (Nx76m)

361 Personally, I thank him for his service to the country. Now GTFO of the Senate.


Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:22 PM (GEICT)

When McCain serves up dem talking points after a republican speech, or filibuster, it is time to officially change to the other side or leave. I agree it’s time for him to GTFO of The Senate.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:26 PM (z4WKX)

362 It's bad. It's how women serve the Jihad -- by servicing the Jihadis, 20, 30, or more of them per tour.

Alahue Akhbarr!

Posted by: Sandra Bin Flukin at September 25, 2013 09:26 PM (xcXAj)

363 Am I bad for laughing at this?

He was tweeting, making fun of the comedian and I don't know whether he heckled him or what, but....

Josh Rogin ‏@joshrogin 7m
We are calling the police on Dan Nainan who just punched me twice in front of several witnesses. #dcimprov

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 09:26 PM (DmNpO)

364
322 We were fifty thousand votes in Ohio away from saying hello to President Lurch.

So, anybody know how many Somali refugees were brought in during the last four years of Bush's term?

Remember the pics of bussed in Somalis lining up at the Ohio polls?
*******************
how dare you question the patriotism of fiat citizenship?????
Remember, we import about 100Ka month. for some reason. And if this was an item in the public mind, even the freshest FOB would be like, we're full thanks,

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 09:26 PM (1RFUG)

365 356 The Clintons left Whitewater Savings and Loan in a similar state.
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (0axsw)

Vince Foster was unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at September 25, 2013 09:26 PM (6J+oK)

366 "I think McCain went into politics because he realized ge would never succeed in the Navy like his father and grandfather."


And like many politicians he's a narcissist, craves public attention and can't stand the idea of being a person that no one notices.
I believe this same syndrome applies to people like Weiner, Filner, and Spitzer who make public fools of themselves and still want to be in public office. I'd bet money that Weiner will try to resurrect his political career again.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:26 PM (mHUKK)

367 Nobody on this or any other planet thinks Hillary is cool. Lets see how many people want to have a beer with her when the unemployment rate is back around 8%, Obamacare is crushing people and the world is far more dangerous than it is now.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (g1DWB)



She's no different now than she was in the 90s and lots of women fawned over here then. The "Bill and Hill" love was nauseating. I remember watching an inaugural parade or something and there was a woman holding a sign "Bill and Hill! Meet me at McDonald's!" and the announcers gushing over the "connection with everyday people that the Clintons exude".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:27 PM (GEICT)

368
Sooner or later all politicians will disappoint you, save a few.

You know who never betrayed us? Sarah Palin. There are a couple of others but there's no need to rehash the '10 Delaware election or the '12 Indiana and Missouri elections.


Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2013 09:27 PM (YflNq)

369 365 He drove to the park without his car keys and offed himself.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:27 PM (0axsw)

370 take a look at the 1984 electoral college map. The donkies have changed the demographics of nearly every state. MD isn't blue because of some policy shift or whatever. There are now more and more no-information voters that will vote blue no matter what. There are no blue-dog low information voters.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 25, 2013 09:28 PM (1RFUG)

371 @69 And the reason we got the C2's (pronounced cee-squareds, a.k.a. "can't c**ts") for our last two White House bids is because of the Loyalist Remnant in the N.E. Corridor (the Scozzafavas, the "I felched Barry Soetoro" Chris Christies, etc.), the Karl Rove Teletubbies, and the arch-demons like Michael Barone (who I would really love to water-board to determine the extent he's paid off by the ex-Judenrat Esperantist George Soros.

Posted by: Cretin, centrifugin' moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at September 25, 2013 09:29 PM (aXmcp)

372 Nobody on this or any other planet thinks Hillary is cool. Lets see how many people want to have a beer with her when the unemployment rate is back around 8%, Obamacare is crushing people and the world is far more dangerous than it is now.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (g1DWB)

She will promise free beer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 25, 2013 09:29 PM (FaZT2)

373 309 The Clintons have made a fucking mess out of the clinton foundation. All three of them are now on the payroll. It is mismanaged and has lost millions of dollars.
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches!

Is that mismanagement or deliberate looting?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:29 PM (mHUKK)

374
Evening 'rons and 'ettes.
Can some body get me a sammich?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at September 25, 2013 09:30 PM (BWimu)

375 Columbus, Ohio has the second largest Somali community in U.S

They are also the most militant, vociferous and radical of domestic Muslim communities. They can get pretty crazy.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 09:30 PM (xSegX)

376 He drove to the park without his car keys and offed himself.

With carpet fibers in his underwear.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2013 09:30 PM (uhAkr)

377 #370

It's because, as a nation, we produce ever larger numbers of stupid people.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 09:30 PM (pcgW1)

378 Hey Arizona. Nice recall law you got there. Be a shame if something happened to it.

Posted by: Marcus at September 25, 2013 09:31 PM (FHIBO)

379 367-BCochran1981, are you trying to make me lose what little I ate today? I refused to cut & paste your entire post about Bill & Hill! That was 23 years ago and time has not been kind to either of them, despite her new Merkel haircut! I saw the picture on Drudge and just kept going.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:31 PM (z4WKX)

380 Sure each one is stupider than the last, but we'll make it up in volume.

Posted by: toby928© at September 25, 2013 09:31 PM (QupBk)

381 There have been Leftists running as Republicans for many years.

Consistent with Leftist method, many Leftists have won as Republicans and have done exactly what a Leftist would do to preserve their viability, deliberately preempting an otherwise Republican seat.

Exactly like their campaigns based on defense of slavery and Jim Crow, and the explicit use of the word "n#gger," the Democrats appeal always to the basest instincts.

Republicans ought to be publicizing history every day. And they do not because they are stupid.

Posted by: Tonawanda at September 25, 2013 09:31 PM (mE1l+)

382 McCain and his democrats came up with so many dumb ideas:

McCain plus a donk VP
McCain promising to run for only one term.

Who thinks up this shit? Marxists who sell it to dumbshits like mccain and rinos.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 09:32 PM (T0Pku)

383 YOU KNOW YOU’RE CURIOUS AS TO WHY THIS MAN IS LITERALLY GROWING A NOSE ON HIS FOREHEAD
http://tinyurl.com/nwkx9qa

Don't open at work or in front of your kids, they might have nightmares and don't open if you're queasy. Someone sent this to me in an email, had no choice, made me a little ill, just seeing the picture.

Posted by: apple's number 1 fangirl at September 25, 2013 09:32 PM (Nx76m)

384
" I'd bet money that Weiner will try to resurrect his political career again. "


I'm betting he will attempt to 're-erect' his career.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2013 09:32 PM (DHQv9)

385 276 I wonder if because conservatives are generally small-government types that don't want much to do with government, if that's why we can't find good candidates?

It's not a phenomenon exclusive to the Republican party. Good candidates make it look easy, but it's not.

Dukakis, Gore, Kerry- they didn't relate to Joe Six Pack any better than Romney did. I'm sure many Dems have asked themselves why they can't find good candidates either.

There's a limited pool to choose from. From that pool of Governors and Senators, you have to pick someone eligible, charismatic, experienced (Obama was an unfortunate exception), without too many skeletons in the closet, and overall electability.

There's not as many people fitting those criteria as you might think in a country of 350+ million people.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 09:01 PM (X9Mnx)


the only reason any of that crap matters is because we keep being told over and over again that it does, it's list designed to exclude ordinary citizens from high elected office.

I could go on, but I'd rather jam knitting needles in my eyes than deal with this loud-mouthedstatist who calls himself Hollowpoint.

Posted by: Shoey at September 25, 2013 09:33 PM (m6OUa)

386 Who can compete with Santa Claus? He will bring you free shit.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:33 PM (0axsw)

387 BCochran1981: "Personally, I thank him for his service to the country. Now GTFO of the Senate."

I used to do that in a distant, reflexive sort of way out of respect for the uniform. He's worn out my reflex bone. He's done great damage and continues to do more. His escapades into the Arab Spring make me retch. Post Iraq he's been so schizophrenic and war-mongering that he's now a national scourge. Now he's bringing home the fail to domestic soils and building monuments to them.

I put him about a half-notch below SCoaMF. Had he won in 2008, I'm not sure we would be better off than where we are now... and it'd have GOP stink all over it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 09:33 PM (eHIJJ)

388 That was 23 years ago and time has not been kind to either of them, despite her new Merkel haircut! I saw the picture on Drudge and just kept going.
Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:31 PM (z4WKX)



If the media wants to anoint her, the transition isn't that hard.

"The once First Lady, who had such a connection with voters, has matured into a tough nosed, no nonsense, seasoned politician. She's weathered her share of scandals and backbiting and general political nastiness to become the premier woman in American politics."

I could go on...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:34 PM (GEICT)

389 Sigh. Another hordeless day in which the office network was unable to resolve ace.mu.nu or minx.cc.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 25, 2013 09:34 PM (U82Km)

390 384
" I'd bet money that Weiner will try to resurrect his political career again. "


I'm betting he will attempt to 're-erect' his career.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2013 09:32 PM (DHQv9)

Has hummer made her choice yet? Bet she goes with hill, she's known her longer.

Posted by: apple's number 1 fangirl at September 25, 2013 09:35 PM (Nx76m)

391 But he had to shine in the debates, and it just didn't happen.

Really, he didn’t. He just had to not make major mistakes, and have reasonable answers for the mistakes every politician with a record has made.

Instead, when faced with questions about his illegal immigration policies, he told us we were heartless; when faced with questions about abuse of executive orders, he doubled down. And then he couldn’t even get his own talking points right.

He dug a hole, kept digging, and then threw away the shovel. Despite that, there are many people who would love to see him try again, and succeed. There is still a base of support for him, if he wants it. But he’s going to need to think about where he stands and why he stands there.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 25, 2013 09:35 PM (CeNUw)

392 Just look at GOP nominees since Reagan.
With the last 2 being total throways, one, Captain PlaneDitch "you have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency" and the next one, Governor Milquetoast RomneyCare to repeal Obamacare.

What a bunch of Aholes.
The traditional GOP is just the slower train to the gulags.

I'll give Cruz, Lee and Paul a shot.
At this point it might make a difference.

McShame can go to Hell, the sooner the better.

Posted by: ontherocks at September 25, 2013 09:36 PM (PRaD2)

393 "He's a Democrat."

Hey, Ace: Isn't this what I was saying that you were bashing me for, all the while urging all AoSHQ readers to fucking for this prick?

Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: someguy at September 25, 2013 09:36 PM (8XRrT)

394
#368

i'm not so forgiving, campaigning for McCain last cycle counts as betrayal.

Posted by: chas at September 25, 2013 09:36 PM (WPcwl)

395 Basically, the country was doomed either way in 2008 -- both candidates were Manchurian Candidates.

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 25, 2013 09:37 PM (9MLX+)

396 >>She's no different now than she was in the 90s and lots of women fawned over here then. The "Bill and Hill" love was nauseating. I remember watching an inaugural parade or something and there was a woman holding a sign "Bill and Hill! Meet me at McDonald's!" and the announcers gushing over the "connection with everyday people that the Clintons exude".

Then we might as well throw in the towel now and drink even more heavily. If all it takes to win is an 70 year old leftist who has never accomplished shit and has Benghazi wrapped around her neck and the worst economy since the Great Depression and Obamacare thanks to her former boss we will never win the White House again.

Of course, most of you told me Romney would never win the Republican nomination for .. reasons. So I think I will not start cutting myself just yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (g1DWB)

397 McCain has been a Democrat flunky since they let him skate from the Keating Five kerfuffle!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (XdnQT)

398 Who can compete with Santa Claus? He will bring you free shit.

Someone who is willing to say that there is no Santa Claus. The money doesn’t come from nowhere.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (CeNUw)

399 So yeah, you can just shut the fuck up about the two senior McCains 'being on the federal payroll'. Those men were patriots, great military leaders. They earned their keep.

I don't deny that.

The point was little John has always been an admiral's son and he served honorable.

BUT, they still know nothing about where money comes from.

Federal employees think money is a budget that someone else pays.

That takes nothing away from their service, it simply means they don't have a clue where money comes from.

None of them ever made a payroll.

Posted by: John Smith at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (wR+pz)

400 John McCain is such a useless pile of crap AND WE NOMINATED THIS MAN. And then we wonder why the Republican Party is so down in the dumps. We nominate Democrats for PRESIDENT. That's why.

Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2013 09:39 PM (X3jCZ)

401 312 Caroline Kennedy's son has expressed a desire to go into politics even though he is only about 19. God help us.
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches!

But of course he's part of "American Royalty". We know that Kennedy's are all "American Royalty" because liberal media types keep telling us they are.
Go Camelot!

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:39 PM (mHUKK)

402 Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2013 09:33 PM (eHIJJ)

McCain wore out, used up, and destroyed ALL his well-deserved Hanoi Hilton credits with me a loooong time ago

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (XdnQT)

403
"Elections have consequences."



Oh no kidding, especially when you elect a king.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (1Y+hH)

404 @392 This!
Really, starting with the Whiskey Rebellion, American Liberty has been subverted by government at every turn. We should try Constitutional government for once.

Posted by: Cretin, centrifugin' moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (aXmcp)

405 Did the real Camelot have so many drugoverdoses and drunk crashes?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (0axsw)

406 I would love to start seeing signs any time Shrillary! appears in public. Just very basic signs that read:

"Vince Foster is watching you."

"Chris Stevens is watching you."

Etc...

Just go through the roll of the "Clinton Death List." Have a few different ones each time.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (T7XIT)

407 As bad as McCain is, if he had been elected, we probably wouldn't be saddled with Odeathpanelcare. He might have vetoed it.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (pcgW1)

408 the only reason any of that crap matters is because we keep being told over and over again that it does, it's list designed to exclude ordinary citizens from high elected office.

Also, because it's been demonstated as true over and over again, since long before any of us were born.

But mostly the whole demonstratively true thing.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (X9Mnx)

409
I have a candidate they can't possibly beat this time.
Lindsay Graham 2016.

Posted by: Karl Rove at September 25, 2013 09:43 PM (0axsw)

410 Of course, most of you told me Romney would never win the Republican nomination for .. reasons. So I think I will not start cutting myself just yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (g1DWB)



I never said any such thing. My primary choices bounced around all over the damn place, with Romney being near the bottom of the list. I supported him in 2008 because I thought he was the best candidate in that field. I didn't support him in 2012 because I didn't think he was the best candidate in the field.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:43 PM (GEICT)

411 Nobody on this or any other planet thinks Hillary is cool.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:23 PM (g1DWB)

_______

You kidding me? She's an iconic hero to millions of dolts.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:44 PM (HDgX3)

412 Is that mismanagement or deliberate looting?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2013 09:29 PM (mHUKK)

Looting, as you so crudely phrase it, is known in the trade as Clintonian "management"!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2013 09:44 PM (XdnQT)

413
You know what's funny? Ted Cruz is a maverick now.Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2013 09:22 PM (PjgvN)


Oooohh! Yes! Keep Repeating "Maverick Ted Cruz"in John McCain's hearing and watch him melt down.

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2013 09:44 PM (D+lxs)

414 "Vince Foster is watching you."

"Chris Stevens is watching you."

Etc...

Just go through the roll of the "Clinton Death List." Have a few different ones each time.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 25, 2013 09:41 PM (T7XIT)



I like the idea of "Chris Stevens...unavailable for comment..."

"Vince Foster...unavailable for comment...."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:44 PM (GEICT)

415 We support everybody: 8 to 80, blind, crippled, or crazy.

Posted by: Arizona Voters United for Demented Government at September 25, 2013 09:44 PM (yL0v8)

416 As bad as McCain is, if he had been elected, we probably wouldn't be saddled with Odeathpanelcare. He might have vetoed it.

****

Perhaps not, but there's no telling what war we would be engaged in now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 09:45 PM (DmNpO)

417 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:43 PM (GEICT)

Primary voters are fickle things

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 25, 2013 09:45 PM (GaqMa)

418
406 I would love to start seeing signs any time Shrillary! appears in public. Just very basic signs that read:

"Vince Foster is watching you."

"Chris Stevens is watching you."


Ron Brown.
Juanita Broderick. (Don't limit it to the death list.)

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at September 25, 2013 09:46 PM (BWimu)

419 Meremortal, if you're still here, I wanted to pass along some music from a mutual blog friend, teej. He asked me to mention the Samantha Fish Band and the Rachelle Coba Band to you ( and BackwardsBoy if you're here also). Really good stuff if you like blues.

Posted by: L, elle at September 25, 2013 09:46 PM (0PiQ4)

420
That Chelsea, now, she's cool.
Give her a year as a Senator and she will be ready for Presidentin' and stuff.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2013 09:47 PM (DHQv9)

421 Perhaps not, but there's no telling what war we would be engaged in now.

---------

Yep. McCain Presidency reduces the odds of an Obamacare style law by about 10% (read this man's comments, I'm not so sure he doesn't pass it) and increases the odds of World War 3 by roughly 145%.

Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2013 09:47 PM (X3jCZ)

422 #416

True, or what serious you guys sectarian rebels we would be supporting.

Posted by: Marmo from Iowa, the only state that elects our presidents at September 25, 2013 09:47 PM (pcgW1)

423 I could go on...
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:34 PM (GEICT)

Please, I beg you, do not. My brother has almost died from infections and now is paralyzed from one being in his cervical spine and he’s been in the hospital or rehab since March 30. He’s in the hospital again from another infection since two weeks ago. I can’t eat when I’m upset and I am little to start with. I lost 7 lbs as of the last time I weighed myself and I don’t look any better.
I have to go force myself to eat. Please no more Hillary in 2016 talk until my brother is transferred to a nursing home (they don’t do acute rehab more than one time) near me in MA. He’s been in Maine the entire time. He’s 51 and he’s going to have to spend the rest of his life in a rehab, or skilled nursing facility.
Yesterday he told me he talked to a lawyer, I was very busy at work, but that’s good to know because I wanted to know why it took 19 days to discover the infection that was in his lungs, blood, urinary tract etc was also in his neck bones. That’s why he’s paralyzed, it took that long to discover the infection was in there. If they found out sooner surgery wouldn’t have been as extensive.
Thank you.

Make jokes, but none about that evil bitch being president. She should be in jail for Benghazi along with The JEF.

I have been here all day, I never made it outside. Where is J.J. Sefton?

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:47 PM (z4WKX)

424 Erections have consequences. Proof: The Mccain family, John and his daughter Megan.

Posted by: Ghost of Richard Daley at September 25, 2013 09:48 PM (HlAY9)

425 Primary voters are fickle things

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 25, 2013 09:45 PM (GaqMa)



I try to support the candidate who's most conservative, who most represents what I believe in.

Unfortunately, those guys kept shooting themselves in the dick.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:48 PM (GEICT)

426 As bad as McCain is, if he had been elected, we probably wouldn't be saddled with Odeathpanelcare. He might have vetoed it.

_______

If O-care is a 100 on a scale of 0-100, 100 being bad and 0 being good, McCain would have signed into law something around 80. Not as bad, but bad enough.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:48 PM (HDgX3)

427 McCain wore out, used up, and destroyed ALL his well-deserved Hanoi Hilton credits with me a loooong time ago

That shit expired back in the 90's when he teamed up with John Kerry to whitewash Vietnam's POW accounting progress so Clinton could give them trade status.

Posted by: Purp PhD/MD/Esq/Nobel Laureate at September 25, 2013 09:49 PM (9MLX+)

428 I have been here all day, I never made it outside. Where is J.J. Sefton?



Is he on strike for Sven's ban?

Posted by: John Smith at September 25, 2013 09:49 PM (wR+pz)

429 Prayers up for your brother, CarolT.

Posted by: Cretin, centrifugin' moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at September 25, 2013 09:49 PM (aXmcp)

430 Unfortunately, those guys kept shooting themselves in the dick.

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But why can't we start looking past these things? John McCain is damn Democrat and he wins the nomination. Rick Perry struggles with a debate question and he's ruled out. The fuck are we doing? Let's figure that out and then do the exact opposite.

Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2013 09:49 PM (X3jCZ)

431 Of course, most of you told me Romney would never win the Republican nomination for .. reasons. So I think I will not start cutting myself just yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (g1DWB)

_________

You're full of shit. Everyone thought Romney would win. A lot of people **HOPED** he wouldn't, but deep down they knew it was a done deal.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 25, 2013 09:50 PM (HDgX3)

432 I picture him, bloody and dying, with his finger on
the nuke button, aimed at Cruz' house saying, "with Hell's last breath, I
stab at thee."

Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2013 08:18 PM

Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy

Posted by: The Outcast Ted Cruz at September 25, 2013 09:50 PM (/9IC1)

433 I'm crushing hard on Mike Lee. Con Law (((Shudders)))

Posted by: osoloco at September 25, 2013 09:51 PM (R5JSa)

434 o/t but why ban commenters from a place where numbers = strength?

Posted by: Cretin, centrifugin' moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at September 25, 2013 09:51 PM (aXmcp)

435 >>>> Where is J.J Sefton?

Isn't he more a daytalker? Though he does make appearances in the early evening from time to time.

Posted by: L, elle at September 25, 2013 09:52 PM (0PiQ4)

436 >>I never said any such thing. My primary choices bounced around all over the damn place, with Romney being near the bottom of the list. I supported him in 2008 because I thought he was the best candidate in that field. I didn't support him in 2012 because I didn't think he was the best candidate in the field.

And yet he did win. While being demonstrably the least cool person in the race. Hell, he doesn't even drink so the whole six pack thing is out.

It's absolutely pointless for people to sit here and talk about how awesome a guy like Cruz is when half the country absolutely despises him and say this is the kind of guy we want to lead us and then say we need to out cool the other side. Cruz, by his own admission, is not cool.

We either believe that our principles can and will win if they are properly laid out for the electorate or we just recruit the coolest rapper next cycle.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:52 PM (g1DWB)

437

Carol T., I am sorry to hear of this situation. My prayers for you.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2013 09:52 PM (1Y+hH)

438 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:48 PM (GEICT)

I was more referring to the primary as a whole.
I too try to support such a candidate (eh, kinda, I am fickle) but that has to be tempered with "who's got a fighting chance of winning."
By the time my primary (or in this case caucus) rolls around I'm usually stuck with "the lesser of several evils."
:sigh: (does quick math) 42 hours remaining until my reckoning.

Posted by: tsrblke, actual real life PhD student at September 25, 2013 09:53 PM (GaqMa)

439 I think I will not start cutting myself just yet.



Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:38 PM (g1DWB)


Well, okay, then. But I don't see you gettin' any major arguments here. Why are you here, anyway???

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2013 09:53 PM (8lmkt)

440 But why can't we start looking past these things? John McCain is damn Democrat and he wins the nomination. Rick Perry struggles with a debate question and he's ruled out. The fuck are we doing? Let's figure that out and then do the exact opposite.
Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2013 09:49 PM (X3jCZ)


I'm not disagreeing with you. Rick Perry on meds is far better than most. Herman Cain banging sluts and screaming "777!!" is still better than most.

But those guys weren't on my primary ballot. I got Newt, Romney, Santorum and SilverDimes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 09:54 PM (GEICT)

441 272
Thank you for your self-service, Senator McCain.





Now go lick a woodchipper's pussy, you nasty, senile piece of shit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2013 09:00 PM

This is why I think of EoJ as the Ricky Roma of Moron Nation ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW7WlT6OJxE

Posted by: The Outcast Ted Cruz at September 25, 2013 09:54 PM (/9IC1)

442 But why can't we start looking past these things? John McCain is damn Democrat and he wins the nomination. Rick Perry struggles with a debate question and he's ruled out. The fuck are we doing? Let's figure that out and then do the exact opposite

Because even if we choose to overlook such flaws in the primaries, general election voters won't.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2013 09:54 PM (X9Mnx)

443 What day this week did Ace write that TFG came up with universal health care as a throwaway for a speech he had nothing to say? Monday or Tuesday?
There would be no McCain care if he had been elected but he might have done worse, hard to imagine, in the ME if he was.

I am now of the mind to let the Muslims kill each other off until they’re all gone. We’ll get our guys out and stay out. We can offer amnesty to Afghan Women, but they must learn English and assimilate and become citizens. None of the stuff we put up press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, then 3 for Pashtun? I believe that’s wheat they speak there. If I’m wrong, then I’m wrong and hungry.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:54 PM (z4WKX)

444 "Vince Foster is watching you."

"Chris Stevens is watching you."


Ron Brown.
Juanita Broderick.
-------------------

The Clintons have left a lot of bodies in their wake, both literally, and figuratively.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 25, 2013 09:55 PM (aDwsi)

445 Off topic: Drudge links to a story about the outrage following a proposal by a student for a straights-only sorority at Smith. Considering Smith's reputation, I found this extremely funny.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 09:55 PM (bKA83)

446 Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:47 PM (z4WKX)

{{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2013 09:55 PM (8lmkt)

447 "It's absolutely pointless for people to sit here and talk about how awesome a guy like Cruz is when half the country absolutely despises him..."


I'll call this one out. At least half the country doesn't even know the guy, so it's highly improbable that the other half despises him.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 25, 2013 09:55 PM (sFQyf)

448 Because even if we choose to overlook such flaws in the primaries, general election voters won't.

---------

And if the choice is between nominating a guy who stumbles over his words at a debate, or nominating John McCain, the Democrat, give me the first guy every time. Even assuming John McCain was the best "candidate" what is the point of winning when he's almost identical to the other guy?

Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2013 09:56 PM (X3jCZ)

449 jackstraw said,'Then we might as well throw in the towel now and drink even more
heavily. If all it takes to win is an 70 year old leftist who has never
accomplished shit and has Benghazi wrapped around her neck and the
worst economy since the Great Depression.
-----



i was thinking exactly! Than i thought Obama but older.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 09:57 PM (nqBYe)

450 443
None of the stuff we put up press 1 for English, 2 for
Spanish, then 3 for Pashtun? I believe that’s wheat they speak there.


If I remember my P.J. O'Rourke correctly, there are many languages there. And that is part of the problem. IMO if everyone can't speak a common language, you have a confederation or an empire, not a nation.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 09:57 PM (bKA83)

451 L.Elle, JJ wasn’t here this morning. It was odd not seeing the number of days left. I was up early and was going to go outside to my garden but Ted Cruz had me mesmerized, he was that good. I thought of going outside around 4 but what’s the point when sunset is at 6:30?

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 09:57 PM (z4WKX)

452 I fucking hate John McCain

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at September 25, 2013 09:57 PM (CfWeQ)

453 420
That Chelsea, now, she's cool.
Give her a year as a Senator and she will be ready for Presidentin' and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2013 09:47 PM (DHQv9)


She has yet to pop out a kid necessary for the continuation of the dynasty.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 25, 2013 09:58 PM (T0Pku)

454 The fuck are we doing? Let's figure that out and then do the exact opposite.

Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2013 09:49 PM

That's it! From now on we'll do the opposite!!



Posted by: George Costanza at September 25, 2013 09:58 PM (/9IC1)

455 The Clintons have left a lot of bodies in their wake, both literally, and figuratively.



Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 25, 2013 09:55 PM (aDwsi)

and who will hear of them?

Posted by: mfm at September 25, 2013 09:58 PM (nqBYe)

456 >>Well, okay, then. But I don't see you gettin' any major arguments here. Why are you here, anyway???

Been here a hell of lot longer than you. Who the hell are you and why are you here?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2013 09:58 PM (g1DWB)

457 anyway before i jump off this cliff i'm looking over, how about another margarita?

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 09:59 PM (nqBYe)

458 If I remember my P.J. O'Rourke correctly, there are many languages
there. And that is part of the problem. IMO if everyone can't speak a
common language, you have a confederation or an empire, not a nation.

You're in Califuckinfornia, right? Ever seen how many languages they print the DMV shit in? Probably 20 or 30. And are those people paying the taxes that print that shit? I don't fuckin' think so. Makes me all rage-y.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2013 09:59 PM (8lmkt)

459 " IMO if everyone can't speak a common language, you have a confederation or an empire, not a nation."

Well, certainly not a "homeland". Have I mentioned how much I loathe the term 'homeland" as a reference to the United States of America?

Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2013 09:59 PM (HjPtV)

460 In the military, the second in command is often the "heavy" regarding enforcement of discipline, a setup which has numerous benefits, great and small.

Posted by: Random comment at September 25, 2013 10:00 PM (WZLJx)

461 If you don't vote Hillary or Huma you are a misogynist freak rightwingnut that deserves death!

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:00 PM (nqBYe)

462 447
I'll call this one out. At least half the country doesn't even know the guy


You're welcome.

Posted by: MSM at September 25, 2013 10:00 PM (bKA83)

463 Thank you Cretin, Meremortal and Peaches for the prayers.
( I learned how to make smiles today, here.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 10:02 PM (z4WKX)

464 The fuck are we doing? Let's figure that out and then do the exact opposite

Maybe it would make sense to roll the deadlines for being on the primary ballots so that if someone is doing poorly in the beginning, others can jump in. I think a few good candidates stayed out because they thought Perry was going to walk away with it and they were okay with it (and some, probably, because they knew he wasn’t going to walk away with it, and didn’t want to dilute the conservative vote).

But by the time he flamed out, it was too late for anyone else to get in.

I don’t know. Mostly this is fighting the last battle kind of stuff.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 25, 2013 10:02 PM (CeNUw)

465 459
I think DHS should be renamed to Department of the Exterior.

And the IRS to Department of the Posterior, because that is where they usually blank you.

Posted by: Random comment at September 25, 2013 10:02 PM (WZLJx)

466 458
If I remember my P.J. O'Rourke correctly, there are many languages

there. And that is part of the problem. IMO if everyone can't speak a

common language, you have a confederation or an empire, not a nation.

You're
in Califuckinfornia, right? Ever seen how many languages they print the
DMV shit in? Probably 20 or 30. And are those people paying the taxes
that print that shit? I don't fuckin' think so. Makes me all rage-y.


Yeah, I identify for sure. As you can imagine, I had California in mind when I wrote that, plus a little Canada/Quebec and Belgium. It's just barely possible I have found a way to exit this sinking ship eventually, but time will tell.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (bKA83)

467 460
In the military, the second in command is often the "heavy" regarding
enforcement of discipline, a setup which has numerous benefits, great
and small.

Posted by: Random comment at September 25, 2013 10:00 PM

Excellent, Captain. You let your second in command attack while you sit and watch for weakness

Posted by: Khan Noonien Singh at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (/9IC1)

468 Since this is an open thread, I'd like to mention that NASA TV is now live with coverage of Soyuz TMA-10M's rendezvous and docking with the ISS.

Soyuz had a flawless launch this afternoon from Baikonur.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#.UkOVCSjnvRs

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (sdi6R)

469 My 'WTF' moment for McLame came when I saw Joe Lieberman standing at his side during a presser.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (DHQv9)

470 Anyone who is opposed to Obamacare, and has not called their Senators offices, better do it tomorrow. Just tell them to vote NO regarding cloture of any amended version of the House funding bill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (aDwsi)

471
Rove giving Greta head on Fox.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (pJF+c)

472 Yep, a lot of Taliban originally were Pashtun. Pock-E-stahn sent in a bunch from their Pashtun areas after the Afghanis failed to open the smuggling routes the Pak. bunch wanted. Afghanistan has just about always been a melting pot. If you keep all the girls out of school, prolly the only language they'll speak is their family's. It's worse, b/c you have Turkic languages, Iranian languages, as well as the Indo-European Pashtun. There will be loan words and cognates, not only from the Arabic of the Koran, but there is no lingua franca. Not British English, not Russian...

Posted by: Cretin, centrifugin' moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at September 25, 2013 10:04 PM (aXmcp)

473 nevermind, pours my drink and sits in the corner.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:04 PM (nqBYe)

474 willow's here?

New post should be up soon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:06 PM (GEICT)

475 Rove giving Greta head on Fox.


Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (pJF+c)

just when I thought I would never laugh again . . .

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2013 10:06 PM (8lmkt)

476 but he's going around the country claiming to be part of the opposition party.

Opposition party?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at September 25, 2013 10:06 PM (FcR7P)

477 Rick Perry struggles with a debate question has a Texas accent that sounds way too much like George "compassionate conservative" Bush and he's ruled out.

Yes, it's petty and yes, it's stupid, but it's the truth.

It was just too soon.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 10:06 PM (jevZa)

478 Clintons used up the McDougal's and Webster Hubbell as well.

Posted by: 13times at September 25, 2013 10:07 PM (fGPLK)

479 470
Anyone who is opposed to Obamacare, and has not called their Senators
offices, better do it tomorrow. Just tell them to vote NO regarding
cloture of any amended version of the House funding bill.


I can see it now...

Me: Hello? Is this Senator Feinstein's Office?

Voice on phone: Yes, it is. Um, what can I do for you?

Me: I'm calling to register my opposition to Obamacare, and I wanted to tell you to vote NO...

Voice on phone: *CLICK*

Me: Damn. Better try Boxer.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:07 PM (bKA83)

480 "Excellent, Captain. You let your second in command attack while you sit and watch for weakness"

Is that "Space Seed"? I probably haven't seen it in two decades.

Posted by: Random comment at September 25, 2013 10:07 PM (WZLJx)

481 Via Weasel Zippers:

List of GOP Senators Who Will Vote No On Defunding Obamacare http://shar.es/KtSl0

Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2013 10:08 PM (5H6zj)

482 willow's here?





Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:06 PM (GEICT)

no

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:08 PM (nqBYe)

483 317
You hillbilly gun worshipers lay off my daddy or so help me God, me and this ginormous white ass of mine are making a sex tape.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 25, 2013 09:13 PM

If you can afford all that Crisco oil and flour, go for it Sugar Tits

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2013 10:08 PM (/9IC1)

484 Note.... as a Military Professional, McCains ONLY good thing was his conduct as a Prisoner.

The rest of his Career? He was an ENEMY ACE... he lost FIVE Aircraft in his career.

Then, he was lauded not for his heroism in combat.... or winning anything.... but his bravery as a captive... he was rewarded for perservering when under control by the enemy...

Thus... he brings that lesson to the Senate.... knuckle under... don't fight.... just survive....

He never learned that if you are GOOD at it... you can win a fight...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 25, 2013 10:09 PM (lZBBB)

485 Just tell them to vote NO regarding cloture ...

Harkin's office told me "The Senator strongly supports the ACA. The Senate has already voted 100-0 for cloture."

As God is my witness.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 10:09 PM (jevZa)

486 but while i'm not here could you bring me that ottoman it's waaay across the room.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:09 PM (nqBYe)

487 The GOP should have commercials ready with Hillary in the ugly green suit saying “what difference, at this point, does it make?” And add all the other things she said that day and the lies on September 12, 2012. Get Pat Smith out to do a few ads saying Hillary lied to her face, but the GOP is the party of no ideas, no way to think of winning, etc. Ted Cruz told Rush that this afternoon.
They only make symbolic votes, to tell their constituents that they voted against Obamacare or what ever else it might be.
They need to be replaced, we have four good senators.

Rove is on Greta’s show. I want to see if he’s going to trash Cruz.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 10:10 PM (z4WKX)

488 Everyone still thinks Presidential elections are based on some marketing scheme. We lose and will continue to lose because our culture and societal values are not the same as they were ten years ago. Most people don't look at conservatives anymore as just people with a different ideology, they see us as something foreign or worse, dangerous. We talk about this everyday, look at the shit they say about Cruz. Nobody twenty years ago would dare associate a guy like him as a fascist, a danger to the country, etc., etc.. Now the media does it without a moments hesitation, and with no public uproar.
This is the country we live in folks.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2013 10:10 PM (APJIX)

489 486 but while i'm not here could you bring me that ottoman it's waaay across the room.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:09 PM (nqBYe)



*kicks ottoman over to willow*

*lifts bottle*

Care for a drink?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:11 PM (GEICT)

490 Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:03 PM (sdi6R)


Sooo... we taxpayers are paying money to watch a RUSSIAN spacecraft doc with an INTERNATIONAL space station?

Why to I feel F'd?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 25, 2013 10:11 PM (lZBBB)

491 Now the media does it without a moments hesitation, and with no public uproar.
This is the country we live in folks.


Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2013 10:10 PM (APJIX)

because ?
media, so what are we going to do about it?

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:11 PM (nqBYe)

492 You think it will be puppies and rainbows and a rosy future without McCain? After the next amnesty he will be senator for life as a demoncrat.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at September 25, 2013 10:12 PM (kxSZr)

493 Care for a drink?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:11 PM (GEICT)

of course

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:12 PM (nqBYe)

494 481 Via Weasel Zippers:

List of GOP Senators Who Will Vote No On Defunding Obamacare http://shar.es/KtSl0

Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2013 10:08 PM (5H6zj)



Ms. Lindsey's on the list? Say it ain't so.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at September 25, 2013 10:12 PM (TCWb5)

495 of course

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:12 PM (nqBYe)



Tequila or vodka?

Straight up or mixed?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:13 PM (GEICT)

496 so I am in the cat and some "conservative" radio host is railing against Cruz, some guy named Andy.

Andy says Cruz is all about Cruz, Cruz is waging conservative jihad, Cruz will prevent the House from getting some tax relief for medical devices, Cruz stopped them from getting a delay of the individual mandate for a year, and Cruz will cost us in the 2014 elections.

stupid stupid stupid. I think the Dems are dying to delay it for a year, after the midterms. its the only way they wont get creamed on it in the midterms. its all bull shit

this "Andy" said Cornyn really really hates Cruz and its because Cruz let it be known he will not campaign for anyone in their primaries. Not Cornyn, not McConnell. So they hate him. The host "Andy" seemed to think that was a legitimate complaint

Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:13 PM (zOTsN)

497 youtube.com/url#t2m42s will start the embedded video at the time you so desire. Or at least it used to.

Posted by: JohnW at September 25, 2013 10:14 PM (aM/gc)

498 List of GOP Senators Who Will Vote No On Defunding Obamacare

****

They can ALL vote against it and it won't matter. They know that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2013 10:14 PM (DmNpO)

499 "because ?
media, so what are we going to do about it?
Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:11 PM (nqBYe)
"

What do you think we can do about it? Nothing, we got this why through years, decades of liberalization of everything. Nothing is going to change in an election cycle.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2013 10:14 PM (APJIX)

500 faaaccckk

I am in the CAR not the CAT

Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:14 PM (zOTsN)

501 So now they are talking about a one week CR. Why don't they do one every fucking dsy?

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 25, 2013 10:15 PM (GE81t)

502 Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at September 25, 2013 10:12 PM (kxSZr)

I read that there was going to be no amnesty this year.

Rove is saying that Ted Cruz did himself a lot of good if he’s looking at 2016 & he’s sure he is. I expected him to bash him.

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (z4WKX)

503 vodka, tomato juice dash of something (mind blank) pepper

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (nqBYe)

504 McCain was actually a dumb prisoner. He was always talking trash to his captors and they would beat the hell out of him. He could have gotten other soldiers killed as well when he did this.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (5CSVY)

505 Day dammit

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (GE81t)

506 McVain is the guy who referred to his daughter on the Leno show as "the brains of the outfit" meaning the McVain family. Any man who could say something like that is capable of making a deal with Satan, easily.

Posted by: MTF at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (qf2kI)

507 490
Sooo... we taxpayers are paying money to watch a RUSSIAN spacecraft doc with an INTERNATIONAL space station?

Why to I feel F'd?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 25, 2013 10:11 PM (lZBBB)


This is much too involved for a blog comment, but basically the ISS was built in order to give Shuttle something to do after it stopped launching satellites following the Challenger disaster.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (sdi6R)

508 lowandslow, i think we agree.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (nqBYe)

509 What would be cool would be if we could get these kids laptops (if they do not already have them), introduce them to khanacademy and TED and online college courses, and motivate them to learn a hell of a lot more while they have been given parole from publicschoolprison, then go back and "school" their less gun savvy compatriots.

Posted by: Bob, Henchman at Large at September 25, 2013 10:17 PM (1efte)

510 503 vodka, tomato juice dash of something (mind blank) pepper
Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:16 PM (nqBYe)



You going for a Bloody Mary?

Worcestershire sauce.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:17 PM (GEICT)

511 491
because ?
media, so what are we going to do about it?


Not much. We are in a holding action, like Churchill between the World Wars. The tides are against us, and the strategy of the moment is to disrupt the forward movement of our opponents, and stay true to our principles in anticipation of the moment when they may prevail.

Of course, merely commenting on blogs does only a tiny thing, perhaps giving heart to our junior allies in Washington who read our words for inspiration and support. But it's still a thing, however tiny. Beyond that, hang tough, support things like this Cruz effort, anything that disrupts our opponent's momentum. People usually think things move in one direction, but cycles are more common. Our moment is more likely to arrive than not.

I think it will really help to be done with Obama. There is something deep in our culture that stands against ever even hinting to a black man that he is failing. Shorn of that force, our opponents will be weaker than they are now.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:17 PM (bKA83)

512 You going for a Bloody Mary?



Worcestershire sauce.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:17 PM (GEICT)

that's it!

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:18 PM (nqBYe)

513 At this point, what difference does it make

Posted by: Republican National Committee Slogan at September 25, 2013 10:18 PM (/9IC1)

514 As bad as McCain is, if he had been elected, we probably wouldn't be saddled with Odeathpanelcare. He might have vetoed it.

He'd've rammed amnesty through instead. Then they could have waited for citizenship to be granted and gone straight to single payer.

Frying pan, meet fire.

*spit*

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 10:18 PM (jevZa)

515 Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:13 PM (zOTsN)

Is there some new phrase I've missed? "in the cat" is that a reference to bestiality?

Posted by: knowledge is power at September 25, 2013 10:19 PM (Nx76m)

516 that's it!
Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:18 PM (nqBYe)



Done and done.

Celery stick?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:19 PM (GEICT)

517 f I remember my P.J. O'Rourke correctly, there are many languages there. And that is part of the problem. IMO if everyone can't speak a common language, you have a confederation or an empire, not a nation.
Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 09:57 PM (bKA83)

WE practically have one here then. How depressing!

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 10:19 PM (z4WKX)

518 McCain would be easier to defeat if he was prizzy than Obama is.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:20 PM (5CSVY)

519 Daily reminder:

I actually fucking voted for this asshole in 2008.

Posted by: WOW at September 25, 2013 10:20 PM (6sqK6)

520 McLame isn't worth the contents of a zit on my ass...

F him, sideways, with a tanker's bar covered with 3 coils of concertina wire and heated white hot.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2013 10:20 PM (q+fqH)

521
who is this PJ O'Rourke guy?

I see his name from time to time but I have no idea who he is.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:21 PM (5CSVY)

522 +i think i've said this before as bad as any GOP candidate we might end up with, it is better than a progressive
we alos have more to say, like He is overreaching ! and be heard ()because he only has US to defend his actions

the media certainly will go along as would any dem in slaying the govt beast as long as the beast is Headed by a Republican

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:21 PM (nqBYe)

523 519
"Daily reminder:



I actually fucking voted for this asshole in 2008."

i voted for Sarah, and would do so again. i wouldn't piss on him if he w2as lying in the gutter on fire.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (q+fqH)

524 @521


He's definitely worth binging.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (sFQyf)

525 Done and done.



Celery stick?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:19 PM (GEICT)

mm yes, thank you.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (nqBYe)

526 i voted for Sarah, and would do so again. i wouldn't piss on him if he w2as lying in the gutter on fire.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (q+fqH)



This.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:23 PM (GEICT)

527 514

I'm just glad the Gang of Eight isn't trying to figure out how to give out in the future American birth certificates for anyone born in Mexican hospitals. Nip that next amnesty problem in the bud, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Random comment at September 25, 2013 10:23 PM (WZLJx)

528 522
+i think i've said this before as bad as any GOP candidate we might end up with, it is better than a progressive




Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:21 PM

Sorry, but that's not going to close the deal anymore

Election victories are for Closers only

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2013 10:23 PM (/9IC1)

529 No McCain's not a Democrat. But he's got no more brains or sense than a dried up buffalo turd--and deserves about as much respect.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 25, 2013 10:23 PM (RZP0w)

530 I always thought Bill in the HBO show Big Love was similar to McCain's shifty and self centered approach to things.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:24 PM (5CSVY)

531 is there no one willing to challenge him in AZ? Does he have such a strangled hold on the state GOP and donors he is untouchable? Does he do such a good job bringing home the pork his voters don't care what he does? I just don't get it

Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:24 PM (zOTsN)

532 mm yes, thank you.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (nqBYe)



No problemo.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:24 PM (GEICT)

533 kbdabear we alos have more to say, like He is overreaching ! and be heard ()because he only has US to defend his actions

the media certainly will go along as would any dem in slaying the govt beast as long as the beast is Headed by a Republican


Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:21 PM (nqBYe)

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:24 PM (nqBYe)

534 521
who is this PJ O'Rourke guy?

I see his name from time to time but I have no idea who he is.


1) The main reason National Lampoon was funny, during the period that it was funny

2) Author of a must-read book for moron-style Conservatives called Republican Party Reptile. Run, do not walk, to buy this book, unless you are offended by an article called something like "How to drive drunk really fast while having your wing-wang squeezed and not spill your drink." The chapter on traveling to the Soviet Union with some leftists is worth the price of the book all on its own.

3) Author of many other worthwhile books, including Parliament of Whores. Yes, that means Congress.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:25 PM (bKA83)

535 Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (q+fqH)

I have to quibble about this point.

If you could piss on him without any risk of putting out the fire would you?

Bonus points for pissing in his face.

Yeah, I hate the son-of-a-bitch too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2013 10:25 PM (gqgiP)

536 >>>basically the ISS was built in order to give Shuttle something to do after it stopped launching satellites<<<<

And the shuttle was launching satellites because it needed something to do when the original orbital station, the one that was supposed to service a moon mission, was cancelled because Apollo got there first.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 25, 2013 10:25 PM (P/gm7)

537 The Clintons have made a fucking mess out of the clinton foundation. All three of them are now on the payroll. It is mismanaged and has lost millions of dollars.

Not to mention a Clinton Foundation employee/Muslim Brotherhood member in Egypt!

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 10:25 PM (jevZa)

538 523 519
"Daily reminder:



I actually fucking voted for this asshole in 2008."

i voted for Sarah, and would do so again. i wouldn't piss on him if he w2as lying in the gutter on fire.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2013 10:22 PM (q+fqH)


Exactly. I don't regret my vote for Sarah one bit.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (sdi6R)

539 do we think the establishment is actually going to allow a candidate that would work for US at this point?
have we heard their terms they now freely use for us?

a cruz type will not be chosen.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (nqBYe)

540 383 YOU KNOW YOU’RE CURIOUS AS TO WHY THIS MAN IS LITERALLY GROWING A NOSE ON HIS FOREHEAD
http://tinyurl.com/nwkx9qa

Don't open at work or in front of your kids, they might have nightmares and don't open if you're queasy. Someone sent this to me in an email, had no choice, made me a little ill, just seeing the picture.
Posted by: apple's number 1 fangirl at September 25, 2013 09:32 PM (Nx76m)

That's rich coming from the troll that links gay porn and swears it's the sort of link you can send your coworkers.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (mXfeP)

541 And Soyuz is finally in view from the ISS.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (sdi6R)

542 Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:25 PM (bKA83)


I'm kinda meh on O'Rourke. I hate drunk driving. A drunk almost killed my FIL and it did permanently cripple him.

I got into a back and forth with Teh Empress one morning because I called O'Rourke an idiot based on something he wrote on religion.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT)

543 I kind of wonder about Palin sometimes given she went all out to get McCain re-elected and never says anything bad about him. I have a hard time believing McCain didn't have his consultants blame her for his lost so it is odd the loyalty she has.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (5CSVY)

544 "The chapter on traveling to the Soviet Union with some leftists is worth the price weight of the book in gold all on its own."


FIFY

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 25, 2013 10:27 PM (sFQyf)

545 Wow, did anyone else notice more update to McCain being a dem? I noticed the first update, just noticed the additional update to same one.

McCain voted against Bush tax cuts and had bad relationship with republican caucus. He ran as GOP nominee in 2008? Fraud!

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 10:27 PM (z4WKX)

546 Whew, tempted the barrel with that much formatting.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 25, 2013 10:27 PM (sFQyf)

547 i guess i'm tired and rather grumpy, i will shuffle out to read a book.

sorry at my bitteryness tonight.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2013 10:28 PM (nqBYe)

548 I think O'Rouke might be the writer who attacked Rush a good bit.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:29 PM (5CSVY)

549 so McCain has a bad relationship with the caucus and he becomes the nominee

Cruz has a bad relationship with the establishment and he is ruining OCare and costing us the election

Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:29 PM (zOTsN)

550 You have to respect Soyuz. It had a rocky beginning back in the 60s (see Soyuz 1 and Soyuz 11), but it's evolved to be something like the DC-3 of the Space Age. It's a reliable and dependable workhorse.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:30 PM (sdi6R)

551 Posted by: Buzzion at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (mXfeP)

Is that curious with a new hash?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2013 10:30 PM (gqgiP)

552 543 she's smart. she knows that is a no win situation for her now. Don't look back. Keep moving.

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:30 PM (BmWNr)

553 542
I'm kinda meh on O'Rourke. I hate drunk driving. A drunk almost killed my FIL and it did permanently cripple him.



I got into a back and forth with Teh Empress one morning because I
called O'Rourke an idiot based on something he wrote on religion.


I would never claim that the man is infallible, only that he was funny and quite insightful from time to time. In interviews, he has conceded that his hard-drinking persona is a put-on for comedic effect. I would not be surprised if the man had never drove drunk in his life. But I can certainly understand why you would not consider drunk driving as a matter for levity, under the circumstances. He wrote it in a more innocent age about such things.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:30 PM (bKA83)

554 Cruz has a bad relationship with the establishment and he is ruining OCare and costing us the election
Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:29 PM (zOTsN)

The Establishment is useless. Did you hear Cruz on Rush’s show today?

Posted by: CarolT at September 25, 2013 10:31 PM (z4WKX)

555 He lies about drinking hard for comedic effect? That is kind of gay.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:31 PM (5CSVY)

556 Do something useful for a change, John. Roll your daughter out from between the stalls of the local Burger King. Stage an intervention.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 10:31 PM (Y92Nd)

557 548
I think O'Rouke might be the writer who attacked Rush a good bit.


Surprising, but not utterly inconceivable. Do you have a link? It's something I'd prefer not to accept, but evidence will do the trick.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:32 PM (bKA83)

558 What's with the flashing gray bars on the video feed from the Soyuz?

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 25, 2013 10:32 PM (Fvh1w)

559 555
He lies about drinking hard for comedic effect? That is kind of gay.


Foster Brooks will haunt you from now on.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:32 PM (bKA83)

560 F@$% John McCain.

Posted by: KC at September 25, 2013 10:32 PM (VS4qW)

561 Hey BCochran,

Bloody Marys with boiled shrimp, pickled okra, a jalapeño and a pickled green bean!

Had that in Charleston in the spring. It looked so good, my wife actually drank before sunset !

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2013 10:32 PM (gqgiP)

562 the establishment is all about the establishment and nothing else

I am amazed some republicans don't see this

Posted by: thunderb at September 25, 2013 10:33 PM (zOTsN)

563
558 What's with the flashing gray bars on the video feed from the Soyuz?
Maybe impending impact from SMOD?

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:33 PM (BmWNr)

564

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

-P. J. O'Rourke

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2013 10:33 PM (1Y+hH)

565
I'm surprised people still talk about Palin at this point. She's not running again.
What's happened with Paul Ryan, he used to be a lot of conservative's Golden Boy for awhile,, despite a pretty liberal record on some big issues.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:33 PM (5CSVY)

566 You know what's funny? Ted Cruz is a maverick now.

#TedCruzMaverick would make and awesome hash tag and as a bonus?

It'd drive McCain fooking nuts.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 10:34 PM (jevZa)

567
I doubt McCain cares about Cruz.
The dude just likes attention, he doesn't care what he says. He wants to seem important, then go back to his poker game.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:36 PM (5CSVY)

568 565
I'm surprised people still talk about Palin at this point. She's not running again.
What's
happened with Paul Ryan, he used to be a lot of conservative's Golden
Boy for awhile,, despite a pretty liberal record on some big issues.


Sir, I must ask. Are you, by any chance, a troll? I detect a whiff of concern.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:37 PM (bKA83)

569 Hey, you know what?

Fuck Reagan. He was cool with the New Deal.

Fuck Johnson for the Great Society.

Fuck Poopy Bush for losing to Blowjob Clinton.

Fuck Shrub for expanding Medicare

Fuck every worthless cocksucker helping this shit.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 10:37 PM (Y92Nd)

570 Bloody Marys with boiled shrimp, pickled okra, a jalapeño and a pickled green bean!

Had that in Charleston in the spring. It looked so good, my wife actually drank before sunset !
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2013 10:32 PM (gqgiP)



That's....interesting.

My wife was up in Savannah early this year for a cheerleading thing. She HATES grits. BUt came home with a recipe for shrimp and grits. Said it was the best thing ever.

Huey's On The River.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 25, 2013 10:37 PM (GEICT)

571 556
Do something useful for a change, John. Roll your daughter out from
between the stalls of the local Burger King. Stage an intervention.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 10:31 PM

Hey, no spoilers!!!!

Posted by: Raising McCain producers at September 25, 2013 10:38 PM (/9IC1)

572 McCain was our candidate because of Iraq. Rudy was a bad candidate and FRED! never took off. The only alternative in '08 was Romney, and he couldn't convince people, partially because he tried to give a none answer to how to deal with Iraq. McCain went all in with the surge and took the candidacy.

It sucks that the party nominated a guy who's actually on the other team but if there were any lost cause election years to throw away a bad candidate, it would have been 2008, (as horrible as it's been.)

I think Palin is a fraud. If she wants to win points from me, let's see her actually take on and defeat a real ESTABLISHMENT figure like McCain, and not just help him get reelected.

Posted by: Shoot Me at September 25, 2013 10:39 PM (qiXMt)

573 that's a troll for sure man. the hash is too precious

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:39 PM (BmWNr)

574 I doubt McCain cares about Cruz.
The dude just likes attention, he doesn't care what he says. He wants to seem important, then go back to his poker game.
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:36 PM (5CSVY)

I don't know which you're talking about. But where was Cruz' filibuster on amnesty?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 10:39 PM (Y92Nd)

575
how is it trolling to point out that Palin isn't running again.

I think it is interesting people still talk about Palin but not our most recent VP candidate.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:39 PM (5CSVY)

576 I wonder what the translator looks like. I kinda like her voice in a way.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

577 I think Palin is a fraud. If she wants to win points from me, let's see her actually take on and defeat a real ESTABLISHMENT figure like McCain, and not just help him get reelected.
Posted by: Shoot Me at September 25, 2013 10:39 PM (qiXMt)

I want to see her take out Begich or Murkwski.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 10:40 PM (Y92Nd)

578 Late to the thread, but McQueeg won't do an Arlen specter. He would lose his seniority if he switched parties, just like specter.

Posted by: Museisluse at September 25, 2013 10:40 PM (HBhZC)

579
my point is McCain isn't an ideologue, he doesn't care about ideas.

He just wants political power and attention and a legacy and I think he's admitted that he would have a hard time finding another job.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:41 PM (5CSVY)

580 Remember, we import about 100K (immigrants) a month ...

So, when we create 150K/month of jobs ...?

Must ... not ... rage ....

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee,what supports Sam Clovis, Iowa Senate candidate who StandsWithCruz! at September 25, 2013 10:42 PM (jevZa)

581 Next on Raising McCain ...

"Can You Really Find the Wet Spot?"

Meggie, 50 lbs of flour, and feminism

Posted by: Raising McCain producers at September 25, 2013 10:43 PM (/9IC1)

582 Are you really smarter than a McCain?

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:44 PM (BmWNr)

583 9 meters and closing...

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:44 PM (sdi6R)

584 Match wits against John and Meghan

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:45 PM (BmWNr)

585 5 meters, crosshairs aligned...

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:45 PM (sdi6R)

586 575
how is it trolling to point out that Palin isn't running again.

I think it is interesting people still talk about Palin but not our most recent VP candidate.


Hello, troll. Time will tell if I'm wrong. If I am, I will apologize to you.

Protip: Non-trolls do not tend to use the phrase "conservatives Golden Boy"

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:46 PM (bKA83)

587 McCain could have been defeated but J.D. Hayworth was ridiculed by the many republican and conservative pundits.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:46 PM (5CSVY)

588 Capture confirmed at 10:45 pm EDT!

That's 5 hours and 47 minutes after liftoff.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2013 10:47 PM (sdi6R)

589 its not a very good troll either.

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:47 PM (BmWNr)

590
Ryan was a Golden Boy of some conservatives for awhile. I saw some articles about how he was our Obama in terms of being cool.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:48 PM (5CSVY)

591 Oooo its trying to salvage. Should be fun.

Posted by: simplemind at September 25, 2013 10:49 PM (BmWNr)

592
I saw a bit of the HBO movie about Palin a few hours ago.
The Republican political consultant played by Woody Harrelson came across as a jerk which was odd since he was supposed to be the good guy, I assume.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:50 PM (5CSVY)

593 McCain won't last another primary.

He almost got knocked off by the blowhard JD Hayworth, but McCain still had a sizable warchest and some goodwill with the Palin pick that put him over the top.

Never again.

Posted by: Jeepers at September 25, 2013 10:56 PM (XDRsa)

594 McCain is doing a sex jihad for the Democrats.

Posted by: Hillary Eats Huma at September 25, 2013 10:59 PM (vHRtU)

595
How is Hayworth a blowhard but McCain isn't?

Blowhard seems to be a subjective description

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 11:01 PM (5CSVY)

596 I don't mind that he's a Democrat, but he's going around the country claiming to be part of the opposition party.

If the Republicans were smart, they'd have given him the boot by now.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 25, 2013 11:01 PM (ItfcE)

597 "conservatives Golden Boy"
Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 10:46 PM (bKA83)

WTF has Ryan done for conservatism but shill for amnesty, which he has always supported along with all other corporate welfare? Where was math in '12?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 11:05 PM (Y92Nd)

598 595 How is Hayworth a blowhard but McCain isn't?

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 11:01 PM (5CSVY)

Hayworth openly believes in Lizard People. Might be one on his mother's side.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 25, 2013 11:07 PM (Y92Nd)

599 595.

For the record, I voted for JD in the primary, but I knew he was also a douchebag.

He starred in an informercial to show people how to scam the government for free money.

Still better than McCain though.

Posted by: Jeepers at September 25, 2013 11:13 PM (XDRsa)

600 Once again you racists and haters ridicule a wise bipartisan like John McCain. He fathered the brilliant and insightful Meghan McCain, and was wise enough to know that Barack Obama was a better choice for America than he was. That is why he ceased campaigning and stepped aside- to allow the better man to be President.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 25, 2013 11:17 PM (aR5oH)

601 600
the brilliant and insightful Meghan McCain


You have captured her perfectly. And you have kept this up longer than Joaqim Phoenix. That has to be worth something.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2013 11:22 PM (bKA83)

602 I kind of wonder about Palin sometimes given she went all out to get McCain re-elected and never says anything bad about him. I have a hard time believing McCain didn't have his consultants blame her for his lost so it is odd the loyalty she has.
Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 10:26 PM (5CSVY)

Could be because Palin's a class act. McCain put her on the ticket and gave her a shot at the big leagues. That he did so as a purely tactical move to garner support from the conservative base is beside the point.

No, McCain didn't order Schmidt and others on his staff to blame her for his defeat. His big sin in that regard was not defending her when she was blamed. Schmidt, by all accounts, was/is like a son to McCain. Even so, McCain should've publicly disavowed that little rat bastard, but didn't.

Posted by: troyriser at September 25, 2013 11:23 PM (ptcFO)

603
that black republican from olkohama, forget his name, J.C. Watts maybe? and I think Fred Thompson also did those same commericials.
It wasn't about scamming the government, it was about taking advantage of money the government was going to give out to somebody so why not you. It's funny how conservative fell into the RINO talking points about that designed to damage Hayworth.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 11:25 PM (5CSVY)

604 Who are the Lizard People?

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 11:26 PM (5CSVY)

605
I think Ryan was kind of a transparent attempt to give young people a "cool" dude to vote for whith his weight lifting and his love of led zeppelin, etc.
I thought he sucked against Biden, he m ae Biden kind of seem like a cool badazz.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 11:28 PM (5CSVY)

606 Well the Jones memo, which outlined the strategy to whitewash Schmidt's failures and blame Sarah, was likely seen by McCain, Jones went on to be a top staffer for Romney, just a coincidence,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 25, 2013 11:28 PM (Jsiw/)

607
McCain and Romney's main problem is they don't care much about ideas and political philosophy but being president is about ideas and political philosophy.

I was surprised media loved McCain so much b/c he is the biggest hawk out there and he's been solid on abortion and I think gun control.

I think somebody wrote an article that actually showed McCain was more conservative than Romney based on their records, but I guess people hate McCain more b/c he is an ahole and Romney seems ok.

Posted by: ClemsonGrad96 at September 25, 2013 11:33 PM (5CSVY)

608 Media Turn on Meghan McCain, Blast New Pivot Show
http://tinyurl.com/o2rml4k
Heck if they'd have hired herman cain they could have called the show "raising cain" and it would have flowed. When you add the "mc" it's just dumb. Anyway I don't normally go to breitbart but I happened upon their article about little meggy and the comments over there are completely ignoring the subject of the article, little meggy. The comments are all about her daddy dearest. It's too funny.

Posted by: knowledge is power at September 26, 2013 01:07 AM (Nx76m)

609 What McCain doesn't seem to get is that the Republican party is the opposition. The opposition has every right and a duty to stand up against bad policies that are damaging to the country. The opposition is supposed to provide checks and balances. It's the way our system works. While Obama won the last election, the Republican party won the House and a few seats in the Senate. Let's not leave out the fact that Obama didn't exactly win in a landslide when you look at the popular votes. Obamacare wasn't exactly passed with much support from the Republican party, nor was there much support from the American people. It was rammed down the people's throats. The very notion that Republicans are supposed to just go along with this horrible disaster of a healthcare plan because Obama won the election is really galling. The American people do not like Obamacare, and most Republicans would like congress to stop spending money like drunken sailors. The will of the people aside, what about standing up for what is right despite the fact that it might be difficult? What about having some principles? I am not sure what planet McCain hails from, but it's pretty obvious that the whole concept of free markets, small government, and freedom is not something that he gets - which would make him ideologically a Democrat. He is a squishy whiner that wants to be liked and admired, which explains why he's a loose cannon with no moral center. He has no principles. He doesn't mind the state taking over the healthcare system. He doesn't believe in small government, but even if we pretend he sort of does, he caves when the media starts bashing Republicans and conservative on the issue. He wants the media to like him, and he certainly can't be liked by the mainstream media and represent the people - the people that he is supposed to represent anyway. What he fails to realize is that the mainstream media does not reflect the views of the average American. What they reflect are the views of an Ivy League elite that has no concept of what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck. What they reflect is a microcosm of D.C. dunderheads that like to think they are "helping" people when they don't even bother to find out what people really want. It's simple, if you want to help people, then let people keep more of their own money. Furthermore, people do not want to be told that they have to buy something (health insurance) if they don't want to. People want to be left alone, and they want to be free to make their own financial choices. McCain is a disgrace, and I'll be more than happy to donate to ANY candidate that runs against him - even a Democrat. What would be the difference if a Dem had his seat? At least you know a Dem will act like a Dem and vote like a Dem. With McCain, you never know when he's going to stab his own party in the back, and he does far more damage than good by pretending to be something he is not. It's time for him to retire, and it's time for us to make that happen. It's time for us to kindly put this old war horse to pasture, pat him on the head, and thank him kindly for being a great war hero - which he is. War hero is one thing, but a leader he aint.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at September 26, 2013 05:43 AM (2/oBD)

610 Juan McCain has always been my favorite Senator.

Posted by: Manchurian Voter at September 26, 2013 06:49 AM (nbGZj)

611 Advice on how to rid your party of a Democrat that calls himself Republican: It is not enough to primary him. You need to get someone to run in the Democrat primary that would be unacceptable to the Democrats if he happened to win the primary and go on the general election. That way the Dems stay home in their own primary and can't cross over to mess with yours.

Posted by: teapartydoc at September 26, 2013 06:53 AM (4U98b)

612 Zombie Mo Udall is proud of his 'son-in-the-Senate'.

Posted by: Thanks, Arizona Voters at September 26, 2013 06:54 AM (nbGZj)

613 Good-bye, Senator McCain.

It really isn't about you...oh, hell, I lied. It is about you.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Happy Hour! Cocktails of Betrayal 50% Off! at September 26, 2013 09:40 AM (hLRSq)

614 I saw the interview in 2007(?) where he claimed to be a "Progressive" Republican. I think he had been doing that for a couple years prior too. What he is is a douchbag of the first water.

Posted by: halodoc at September 26, 2013 04:12 PM (Fzbp3)






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