Retraction: Principal Explains Reason for "Take a Knee" Policy

On Thursday, I think, in the Open Thread round-up, I mentioned this story, claiming that a principal was forcing kids to "kneel" before him. In the comments DAve said I had the story completely wrong but I failed to follow up.

Via @dloesch, there's a lot more to this story and it never should have been used (as I used it) for quick-hit outrage purposes.

Basically the school's idea is this: Kids get all hyper, running around at recess, then they continue that hyper behavior when it's time to come back in from lunch, running and tripping and shouting like demons, as kids will. So, the school has them take a knee at the end of lunch, as a coach might do, to get that hyper energy to dissipate out from them, and I guess to change their minds over from the Run Like Angry Vikings setting to the Get Ready to Sit Still and Listen to a Teacher Talking setting.

Whatever the merits of this policy are, it certainly isn't a case of a principal demanding kids kneel before Zod.

And, by way of apology, here's some polar bear cubs playing with a giant ball.


Posted by: Ace at 01:58 PM



Comments

1

So is this why the White House press corps does it for Obama? To dissipate that spaz-energy?

Posted by: imp at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (L9AnB)

2 Yeah, it's unfortunate when these sorts of stories get distorted. Sadly, there are so many instances of real abuses in schools, it's easy to believe one like this.

Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (5H6zj)

3 Whatever did generations of school kids do when they came back in to class after lunch/recess?

This was still a stupid idea, but it could've been made a lot better by simply making the kids sit in the cafeteria instead of kneeling.

Posted by: Rick C at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (A9FNw)

4 First??

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (5fSr7)

5 Whatever the merits of this policy are, it certainly isn't a case of a principal demanding kids kneel before Zod.

---

But first you must blow me!

Posted by: Mel Gibson at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (/Crba)

6 But can we still kneel before Zoot for a spanking?

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (SxI9Z)

7 Yeah, I kind of got that when I read the article about the practice. A little too much instant conservative outrage in this case. Jumping the gun, so to speak.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (OZmbA)

8 Missed it by that much.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (5fSr7)

9 Sounds like a teaching technique learned from experience. Something the ivory tower types would never understand.....

Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at August 26, 2013 02:02 PM (728Fx)

10 Hell--

I came in from recess one day with my paddle -ball toy--and the Mother Superior ripped off the ball and spanked me with my own paddle.

Posted by: tasker at August 26, 2013 02:02 PM (r2PLg)

11 Over/Under on replacing recess with yoga?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2013 02:02 PM (BAS5M)

12 Sounds like a reasonable explanation. My only question, where is the chick with the gatorade bottle?

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (m2CN7)

13 Still plenty of hot babe english teachers doing 15 year olds in the school parking lot, though.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (OZmbA)

14 That's too bad. They're going to need the practice for my coronation.

Posted by: Pres. I, Me, Mine at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (62Vup)

15
WTF why don't they get prescriptions for Ritalin like every right thinking parent does?

/sarc

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (3ZtZW)

16 How did those polar bears find dry land?

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (Dwehj)

17 I think that ball should check into rehab.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (T0NGe)

18 Awwww--thanks for the polar bears--for some reason that works.

Posted by: tasker at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (r2PLg)

19 Whatever did generations of school kids do when they came back in to class after lunch/recess?

We had to stand in line and couldn't go inside until everyone shut up and stopped wiggling.

Probably more effective in Iowa in January than in San Bernardino.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (/kI1Q)

20 And, by way of apology, here's some polar bear cubs playing with a giant ball

Are you sure these are real polar bears this time ace? Remember the last baby polar bear picture you linked?

Posted by: buzzion at August 26, 2013 02:03 PM (LI48c)

21 I was never particularly on the outrage bandwagon for this one. I'm glad my initial reaction was the right one.

Even though it's OT, I'm bringing up this comment from the previous thread just because it's so TRUE. Mark Knoller does droll better than just about anyone except Brit Hume.

"So Horseface is gong to give a presser on Syria shortly. Here's Mark Knoller commenting on it on Twitter (via Twitchy):

@Politics_Junkie I don't control the cable newsers but I'm pretty sure they'll carry Kerry, unless Miley Cyrus has a news conference.—

Mark Knoller (@markknoller) August 26, 2013

Pretty much sums up the world today, doesn't it?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:04 PM (4df7R)

22 The media lies about everything. Everything except for those things that demonstrate the depravity of public school administrators. You know that other school principals are doing this for reals!! PanicOutrage!!!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 26, 2013 02:04 PM (+lsX1)

23 No we gotta saves up all our kneeling for the great and powerful .O.........bama

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at August 26, 2013 02:04 PM (9+ccr)

24 Thanks for the apology bears, ace.

Posted by: joncelli at August 26, 2013 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

25 Just as long as Miley Cyrus does not pop out of the red ball, we just might be good.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 26, 2013 02:04 PM (SxI9Z)

26 11 Over/Under on replacing recess with yoga?

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Under.

They may try it, but you think you'll keep control of a bunch of boys when you start talking about positions like downward-facing dog or dirty dog in coed classes?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 26, 2013 02:05 PM (/Crba)

27 Quelle horreur, a honest clarification of an incorrect story previously reported!


When will you bloggers learn the mainstream zen of "fake but accurate"? You can't be possibly taken seriously until then.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2013 02:05 PM (XdnQT)

28 I've changed my name. Again.

Posted by: Miley Manning at August 26, 2013 02:05 PM (Dwehj)

29 But can we still kneel before Zoot for a spanking?



Naughty, wicked Zoot!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:05 PM (p9JxP)

30
>>>>Whatever did generations of school kids do when they came back in to class after lunch/recess?

I went to city schools. We went to the nurse's office.

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:05 PM (3ZtZW)

31 Just as long as Miley Cyrus does not pop out of the red ball, we just might be good.

Polar bears eat raw seals, they should be able to handle raw skank.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 26, 2013 02:05 PM (/kI1Q)

32 Don't worry, I'm sure somewhere an administrator read this story and now *is* making the kids Kneel Before Zod. Liberals have shown a capability to reliably outstrip parody before.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 26, 2013 02:06 PM (B/VB5)

33 Are those Coca Cola bears?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (JsN1O)

34
Ouch!, my balls!

Posted by: The guy who says "Ouch!, my balls!" at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (lnFK0)

35 Now I'm disappointed. Certainly, forcing students to knee before him for no reason is crossing the line, but to just have them take a knee after recess seems like a missed opportunity. Yes, at first I was outraged, and then I thought... I don't see why he cant force them to Kneel Before Zod after their lunch break before starting class. Especially if he dresses up in the Terrance Stamp costume an uses the voice.

Posted by: Emperor Norton II at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (MlqTY)

36 Kneel before Knut!

Posted by: mugiwara at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (W7ffl)

37 Whatever did generations of school kids do when they came back in to class after lunch/recess? This was still a stupid idea, but it could've been made a lot better by simply making the kids sit in the cafeteria instead of kneeling.
Posted by: Rick C at August 26, 2013 02:01 PM (A9FNw)


Remember, once upon a time teachers could actually PUNISH students who misbehaved in class. Now you can't so much as give them a stern talking to without risking the wrath of the helicopter parent. So it makes sense to try and get the kids settled down before class starts up again.

And I think the 'take a knee" routine actually works quite well in that way, since sitting makes it a lot easier to fidget than does kneeling.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (4df7R)

38 The White House has issued a press release.

The perceived bowing the President did to other leaders was not bowing but actually stretching his back muscles to get the pain to dissipate from the stress of Presidenting.

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (m2CN7)

39
But lining up and singing Austrian Alpine folk songs is still OK, right?

Posted by: RS at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (YAGV/)

40 "Whatever the merits of this policy are, it certainly isn't a case of a principal demanding kids kneel before Zod."

Oh, so now I can't use this policy with my employees?

This sucks.

Posted by: jwest at August 26, 2013 02:08 PM (u2a4R)

41 The perceived bowing the President did to other leaders was not bowing but actually stretching his back muscles to get the pain to dissipate from the stress of Presidenting.

---

I'm sure they said the same thing about his habitual "accidental" fingers toward political opponents.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 26, 2013 02:08 PM (/Crba)

42 34

Ouch!, my balls!


You know, there are several reality shows on at present that kind of remind me of "Ouch, my balls!"

Posted by: Sphynx at August 26, 2013 02:08 PM (OZmbA)

43 But lining up and singing Austrian Alpine folk songs is still OK, right?



Trololololol

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:09 PM (p9JxP)

44 Cute bears!
Now if I could just forget that I'd ever heard the term 'polar bear hunting'...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2013 02:09 PM (UrtRh)

45 I thought they outlawed recess as some kid s were having more fun than other kids

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2013 02:09 PM (m2CN7)

46 Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2013 02:07 PM (m2CN7)

At least Obama hasn't actually kneeled before foreign leaders in public,

yet!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2013 02:09 PM (XdnQT)

47 Miley Cyrus bowed way over last night. Just saying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2013 02:09 PM (9Xc5j)

48 Look, get your shit straight.

We get the kids to kneel so they can calm down before they sing their praises to The Obama.

Posted by: what really happened at August 26, 2013 02:09 PM (ioO9/)

49
>>>>Remember, once upon a time teachers could actually PUNISH students who misbehaved in class. Now you can't so much as give them a stern talking to

Yer damm right!!1! I had a teacher clobber me with an eraser and I was cleaning chalk dust out of my ears for a whole day!

**shudders**

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (3ZtZW)

50 what was left out of the story is more telling -

When the kids took a knee, they had to face Mecca.

_

it's funny because it could be true.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (19AvL)

51 Remember, once upon a time teachers could actually PUNISH students who misbehaved in class. Now you can't so much as give them a stern talking to without risking the wrath of the helicopter parent.
Posted by: MWR


Whuuh???

Posted by: Kid with PopTart gun at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (62Vup)

52 If some teacher has made me bow over, I would have tied his shoe laces together

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (9Xc5j)

53 Speaking of polar bears, I think we need to strand Al Gore on a slowly melting ice floe.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (OZmbA)

54 They're cute right up until they rip your lings out, Jim.

Posted by: Warren Zevon at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (8ZskC)

55 OT; Talking Horse, set to speak soon on Syria - they had the feed with the reporters chatting beforehand, then they cut the feed...

Posted by: Baldy at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (tyDFN)

56 Bow down before the one you serve
You're going to get what you deserve

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, free Flatbush Joe at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (Z9kSN)

57 At team trivia Saturday there was a question about who played Zod in Man of Steel. I took the opportunity to stand and demand in stentorian tones that everyone in the room "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!"

It didn't work, more the pity.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (aH+zP)

58 Kids get all hyper, running around at recess, then they continue that hyper behavior when it's time to come back in from lunch, running and tripping and shouting like demons, as kids will. So, the school has them take a knee at the end of lunch, as a coach might do, to get that hyper energy to dissipate out from them, and I guess to change their minds over from the Run Like Angry Vikings setting to the Get Ready to Sit Still and Listen to a Teacher Talking setting.

Funny, when I was a child, at the end of lunch or recess, we would all line up before going into class. We didn't need to kneel to "dissipate" energy. When we were quiet (sometimes after a smack with a ruler), we went back to our desks.

That being said, I find the kneeling abhorrent regardless. No man should kneel except to God.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (zF6Iw)

59 Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (19AvL)

I find it scary, because it could well be true!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (XdnQT)

60 Is that a bag of Purina Bear Chow that I see in the background?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (aDwsi)

61 By the way, 'take a knee' was President Clinton's favorite pick up line.

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (m2CN7)

62 Just as long as Miley Cyrus does not pop out of the red ball, we just might be good.
Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 26, 2013 02:04 PM (SxI9Z)


Sadly, I saw the polar bears and that was my first thought. Damn you, Miley, for now ruining polar bears for the rest of my life. Or week. Or probably today. Which, by the way, is probably about how long your career has left.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 26, 2013 02:12 PM (OWjjx)

63 For some odd reason, I am hearing Jeff Goldbulm going "Ohh, ahh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's the running and the screaming."


Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 26, 2013 02:12 PM (VtjlW)

64 Polar bears. Sure. Ooo, aaah. That's what they say now. Then comes the running, and the screaming....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:12 PM (aDwsi)

65 63 Damn! Beat by seconds....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:13 PM (aDwsi)

66 Funny, when I was a child, at the end of lunch or recess, we would all line up before going into class. We didn't need to kneel to "dissipate" energy.



If you had any energy left, you were doing recess wrong.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:13 PM (p9JxP)

67 Honesty, Responsibility, and Integrity in your reportage?

Ace, you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 26, 2013 02:13 PM (tWmgi)

68 it's common in sports to take a knee when a player gets injured or when the coach is speaking to the team and wants the undivided attention....

when i was in school...if an adult walked into the room we were required to stand as a class and greet them.....girls curtsied and boys bowed.....

when the bishop visited we kneeled and kissed his ring....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 26, 2013 02:13 PM (8JJ6O)

69 So fearfull of what an early "accident" might do to her career Billy Ray Cyrus took his daughter down to the doctor for birth control pills.

Anyone wish to hear the rest of the joke?

Posted by: UWP at August 26, 2013 02:13 PM (r98SZ)

70 If those are real polar bears, how come that ball isn't ripped in shreds?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 26, 2013 02:14 PM (FnJUz)

71 So the kids kneel to settle down so they can get their daily lessons on how awful the US and the Constitution are. Throw in a little race relations and the day is complete.

I'd rather they have perpetual recess.

Posted by: Soona at August 26, 2013 02:14 PM (H99r6)

72 That being said, I find the kneeling abhorrent regardless. No man should kneel except to God.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2013 02:11 PM (zF6Iw)


Kneeling, when commanded, puts you in an inferior position, so this is just more subtle liberal psy-ops training for the future residents of the country!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2013 02:14 PM (XdnQT)

73 70 If those are real polar bears, how come that ball isn't ripped in shreds?
Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 26, 2013 02:14 PM (FnJUz)

and why are they inside? polar bears are definitely outside animals.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 26, 2013 02:15 PM (8JJ6O)

74 Kneeling is still far too submissive and reeks of Euro-classism. Only reason to kneel is to either propose, surrender, or give oral sex. It is an ugly posture with ugly political echoes.

It is telling that such an ugly and subordinate posture was chosen by a government worker. It would not have upset anyone if they had kids line up with their hands in their pockets. But that isn't submissive enough, I think, for the government authority figures to consider.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 26, 2013 02:15 PM (TSf9W)

75 If those are real polar bears, how come that ball isn't ripped in shreds?



Made out of really tough seal skin?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:16 PM (p9JxP)

76 Expecting Miley Cyrus to pop out of the ball.

Posted by: UWP at August 26, 2013 02:16 PM (r98SZ)

77 If you had any energy left, you were doing recess wrong.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:13 PM (p9JxP)


-------------------------------------------------


Yup. When I was a kid, we needed the class time to staunch the bleeding and plot revenge for the next recess period.

Posted by: Soona at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (H99r6)

78 Isn't this supposed to be buried among the ads for caskets and septic tanks? *confused*

Posted by: Drumwaster at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (K6BSx)

79 Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 26, 2013 02:15 PM (TSf9W)

Hey, it's not like the kids were required to tug their forelocks when the principal passed by.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (XdnQT)

80 I don't like the "take a knee" concept any better. Keeling before your Sovereign was basically the same thing. For anyone but the lowest serfs, at least. I can teach a wildass German Shepherd pup to stop in his tracks and pay attention, at a single word command. Learning to make such transitions is the key to self discipline.

But it's work to teach it. By all means, let's make things as easy as possible for the educational bureaucrats. They really have it so tough.

Posted by: Department of Redundancy Department at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (uxi9i)

81
>>>If those are real polar bears, how come that ball isn't ripped in shreds?

"This is your ball.

This is your ball on polar bears.

Any questions?"

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (3ZtZW)

82 Whuuh???
Posted by: Kid with PopTart gun at August 26, 2013 02:10 PM (62Vup)


No no, you're different. You were not a Special Snowflake Exhibiting Your Uniqueness and Selfness ThroughDemonstrative Expression (known in an earlier time as "misbehaving and acting out").

Rather, YOU were a Dangerous Youth WithHazardous Ideation and Potentially Murderous Impulses Externalized ThroughViolent Imagery (known in an earlier time as "eating a Poptart").

YOU must be shunned, For The Children.. But the Special Snowflakes? They should be Accepted and Understood.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R)

83 and why are they inside? polar bears are definitely outside animals.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 26, 2013 02:15 PM (8JJ6O)


I see someone in a lab coat at the edge of the picture so I'll assume this is a sexual harassment sensitivity training center.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 26, 2013 02:18 PM (8ZskC)

84 That being said, I find the kneeling abhorrent regardless. No man should kneel except to God.

Um, one knee. One knee vs two knees is a world of difference. Like indexing your finger vs finger on trigger. World. Of. Difference.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:18 PM (44jNh)

85 If those are real polar bears, how come that ball isn't ripped in shreds?

polar bears can't rip rubber. Look it up, wingnut!

Posted by: Roseann Barr, branching out to other conspiracy theories at August 26, 2013 02:18 PM (OWjjx)

86 Good recess, kids. Take a knee. Now it's time for the easiest part of any principal's job - the suspensions. Although I wasn't able to suspend every one I wanted to, I have suspended a lot of you.

Posted by: Principal Homer at August 26, 2013 02:18 PM (uYaYO)

87 Heh. You think taking a knee is submissive for a kid? You must not have played Simon Says, or Mother May I. One supposes such games are not played any more. Too bad..., they taught discipline and respect for the rules.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:18 PM (aDwsi)

88 74 Kneeling is still far too submissive and reeks of Euro-classism. Only reason to kneel is to either propose, surrender, or give oral sex. It is an ugly posture with ugly political echoes.

--

The principal's use of the phrase "take a knee" makes it pretty clear to me that the origin is from athletics, not politics. I'm sure these kids are doing the same for their gym teachers and soccer coaches.

Moreover, what's wrong with children submitting to adult authority?

Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2013 02:19 PM (5H6zj)

89 @19: I know. I was being sarcastic. I had to do the same thing. I guess endorsing the learning of self-discipline is no longer in vogue.

Posted by: Rick C at August 26, 2013 02:19 PM (A9FNw)

90 Only reason to kneel is to either propose, surrender, or give oral sex.

Didn't get picked for the varsity, huh?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 26, 2013 02:19 PM (/kI1Q)

91
>>>and why are they inside? polar bears are definitely outside animals.....

"How do you know the polar bear has been in the fridge?"

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:19 PM (3ZtZW)

92 Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:18 PM (44jNh)


1. Take a knee
2. Kneel
3.Profit!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2013 02:19 PM (XdnQT)

93 If those polar bears were dismembering Miley Cyrus on stage, I might just watch an awards show

Locals above the Arctic Circle always remind the tourists that as cute as they look, a polar bear weighs 1,000 pounds and can behead you with one swipe of its paw, like a giant grizzly

That's why I rooted for the bear in "The Edge"

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2013 02:20 PM (/9IC1)

94 You can see that without any icebergs to play on, polar bears will straight up invade your living room. This is what we in the industry refer to as a Cat6 Global Warmening event.

Posted by: ALGORE at August 26, 2013 02:20 PM (W7ffl)

95 I will die on my feet before I live on my knees! Eat hot lead, Miss Wormwood!!

Posted by: Calvin at August 26, 2013 02:20 PM (BAS5M)

96 >87
Heh. You think taking a knee is submissive for a kid? You must not have
played Simon Says, or Mother May I. One supposes such games are not
played any more. Too bad..., they taught discipline and respect for the
rules.<



Or football for that matter...D-Backs! Come over here and take a knee so I call tell you how pathetic that last effort was!

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 26, 2013 02:20 PM (KjlbF)

97 >>Didn't get picked for the varsity, huh?

Thread-winner.

You may pick up your winnings at the window, HeatherRadish.

Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2013 02:21 PM (5H6zj)

98 What kind of rug does a bear sleep on?

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:21 PM (3ZtZW)

99 So that principal forced the kids into Tebowing?

BURN HIM!!!!!

Posted by: ESPN at August 26, 2013 02:21 PM (/9IC1)

100 Heh. You think taking a knee is submissive for a kid? You must not have played Simon Says, or Mother May I. One supposes such games are not played any more. Too bad..., they taught discipline and respect for the rules.



Now days it be, "Simon says........fap".
In health class.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (p9JxP)

101 What the hell's a "retraction?"

Posted by: A. Liberal at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (Tlix5)

102 Submissive? Drop and give me 50.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (aDwsi)

103 98
What kind of rug does a bear sleep on?

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:21 PM

Any kind he wants

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (/9IC1)

104 post 94 and 95 for sure brought it!

Posted by: The Commentor Who Wants To Bring it! at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (OWjjx)

105 White bears Ace, really? So predictable...racist bastard.

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (LSJmV)

106 Only reason to kneel is to either propose, surrender, or give oral sex.

Didn't get picked for the varsity, huh?


What about weeding your garden? That's selecting one type of plant over another, that's preference and killing the other. Kneeling is genocide!

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (44jNh)

107 What kind of rug does a bear sleep on?



What ever kind he wants?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (p9JxP)

108 Obviously that photo was taken many decades ago.

Posted by: Al Gore at August 26, 2013 02:23 PM (wAQA5)

109
>>>What the hell's a "retraction?"

"Shrinkage"

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:23 PM (3ZtZW)

110
The principal's use of the phrase "take a knee" makes it pretty clear to me that the origin is from athletics, not politics. I'm sure these kids are doing the same for their gym teachers and soccer coaches.

Moreover, what's wrong with children submitting to adult authority?

Posted by: Y-not


First part's fine. Second, um, submission? Yeah, we're fine with voluntary association and good conduct, but submission is for serfs, slaves, and Islamists.

Respect and decorum, fine. Submission? Fuck that noise.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 26, 2013 02:23 PM (62Vup)

111 But the Special Snowflakes? They should be Accepted and Understood.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R)



Darn tootin'.


Karl agrees: http://bit.ly/17fdFr1

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 26, 2013 02:23 PM (VtjlW)

112 Maybe he thinks the boys would have thought it was cool in that that's a pose that football players take.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 26, 2013 02:24 PM (T0NGe)

113 Only reason to kneel is to either propose, surrender,



One DOES follow the other.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:24 PM (p9JxP)

114
>>>What ever kind he wants?

Yes yes, and for the other one - when you his pawprints in the butter.

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:24 PM (3ZtZW)

115 "I don't like the "take a knee" concept any better."

Oh, come on! Taking a knee is an age-old practice in sports and the military after exercise and it doesn't (necessarily) have anything to do with a show of dominance/submission. It's usually about catching breather and a quick lesson before moving onto something else. Big deal.

There are a lot of things to get outraged about in modern education - this ain't one of them.


Posted by: Jaws at August 26, 2013 02:24 PM (4I3Uo)

116 Making them hang from monkeybars would probably have the same effect without the whole "Kneel Before Zod" thing

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at August 26, 2013 02:25 PM (5padx)

117 What the hell's a "retraction?"

"Shrinkage"


It's just cold out.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:25 PM (p9JxP)

118 Nobody asks the white bears if they can afford the big orange ball.

Posted by: Oprah Winfrey at August 26, 2013 02:25 PM (8ZskC)

119 What about weeding your garden? That's selecting one
type of plant over another, that's preference and killing the other.
Kneeling is genocide!


Posted by: bonhomme
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Yeah, great. Remind me that I am supposed to be out doing that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:27 PM (aDwsi)

120 "Take a knee" was the first command issued by ANY PE coach or team coach, when he/she was about to issues instruction or direction and wanted eye contact with a medium-sized group. Since there aren't chairs usually available on football/soccer fields, having the team members take a knee was the easiest way to ensure that the coach's eyes were a foot or so above the others so that they could see everyone, and everyone could see the coach.

I won't say that it actually reduced the hyperactivity level, since it was almost as likely to happen just before the team rushed into play as after, or during practice, but it is a standard, nevertheless.

That having been said, I agree that five minutes in the cafeteria, seated, would have been just as effective, and less confusing as to intent.

Posted by: Drumwaster at August 26, 2013 02:27 PM (K6BSx)

121 What about weeding your garden? That's selecting one
type of plant over another, that's preference and killing the other.
Kneeling is genocide!


Posted by: bonhomme
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Yeah, great. Remind me that I am supposed to be out doing that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:27 PM (aDwsi)

122 Yeah, great. Remind me that I am supposed to be out doing that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:27 PM (aDwsi)



Tell you what, I'll just go stand near whatever plant you want dead and that'll work. Seriously, Mommy is Snow White walking through the forest with animals gamboling and flowers blooming. I walk behind her and birds drop dead from the sky and everything wilts.


Hell, I've killed plastic plants. Dedication to cause, baby.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 26, 2013 02:28 PM (VtjlW)

123 He was going to have the kids sit Indian-style, but racism.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 26, 2013 02:28 PM (ZshNr)

124 Mike Hammer is a genocidal maniac!

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:28 PM (9PrpA)

125 At Miley's school, twerking the pedobear was the go-to way to burn off hyper energy.

Posted by: Fritz at August 26, 2013 02:29 PM (UzPAd)

126 Hell, I've killed plastic plants. Dedication to cause, baby.

Never thought Pestilence would be short.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:30 PM (9PrpA)

127 I have a double knee policy. My comments re: Barry's actions during OBL raid didn't have legs!

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 26, 2013 02:30 PM (xTCyN)

128 Ace will never make it as a real journalist with all this correcting the record stuff he does.

As a military brat, I had a well pounded education. I've been swatted in several states. Corporal punishment is still allowed here in MS in public schools.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2013 02:30 PM (ccXZP)

129 123

That's criss cross applesauce, thank you very much.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at August 26, 2013 02:31 PM (GmTxn)

130 Karl agrees: http://bit.ly/17fdFr1
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 26, 2013 02:23 PM (VtjlW)


*coo* Hi, Karl.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:31 PM (4df7R)

131 Wanna hear about my awesome lunch with white rappers and asian gang members?

Click the link.

It's not all the big a deal, but the whole episode was just so fucking bizarre I had to write about it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 26, 2013 02:32 PM (da5Wo)

132

I guess a flaming skull with a fried egg on it's face is out of the question.

http://tinyurl.com/ldp27hj

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2013 02:32 PM (IXrOn)

133 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (/PCJa)

134
Um, one knee. One knee vs two knees is a world of difference. Like indexing your finger vs finger on trigger. World. Of. Difference.


One knee before Man, two before God; that was the old rule, IIRC.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (210xL)

135 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (/PCJa)

136 What about weeding your garden? That's selecting one type of plant over another, that's preference and killing the other. Kneeling is genocide!
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:22 PM (44jNh)

Don't forget kneeling to sort your laundry. Whites get a separate load? And treated to maintain their whiteness? Really?

Posted by: Ragamuffin at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (fzFF6)

137 Hell, I've killed plastic plants. Dedication to cause, baby.
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 26, 2013 02:28 PM (VtjlW)


--------------------------------------------


Yup. My indoor plants always look like they're begging me to mercy-kill them. But I don't. I want to see them suffer, the green (and brown) sons o' bitches.

Posted by: Soona at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (H99r6)

138 Still don't like it.

Next thing you know it will be kow-towing "because the rocking motion burns off more energy than just kneeling..."

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (E3gqr)

139 Moreover, what's wrong with children submitting to adult authority?

They can submit to lawful authority while standing on their own two legs like free human beings instead of on their knee like a prisoner, petitioner, or peasant before a Duke.

The whole "take a knee" thing shows that the principal is not only tone deaf, but is incompetent for not realizing "Hey, having American kids kneel like peons before My Power might strike people a bit odd".

It is a sickening insult to Liberty itself in my opinion. No possible excuse.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (TSf9W)

140 Ace, you're doing it wrong.

Retractions/Corrections are supposed to be on page U26 at the bottom in 6pt. print.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 26, 2013 02:34 PM (/PCJa)

141 Oh ffs.

Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2013 02:35 PM (5H6zj)

142 141 Oh ffs.
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2013 02:35 PM (5H6zj)

Just because it needs repeating.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 26, 2013 02:35 PM (Tnlh/)

143 140 oh right right. AOSHQ needs an ombudsman to issue retractions in the sidebar.

Posted by: Bigby's RX Writing Hands at August 26, 2013 02:36 PM (3ZtZW)

144

Sly dog, that principal.

Elvis AND Tebow worshipping.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2013 02:36 PM (IXrOn)

145 Sounds more like rationalization that explanation. I never had a school principal that presided over recess. Ever. Teachers did that.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp at August 26, 2013 02:37 PM (2BHYC)

146 "That having been said, I agree that five minutes in the cafeteria,
seated, would have been just as effective, and less confusing as to
intent."

The only reason the intent is confused is because of the monolithic gynocracy that does not understand boys, wants to turn them into little girls with drugs or hectoring, and will never accept a practice that has roots in male-oriented sports and the military.

They see all manner of disgusting ulterior motives in "taking a knee". Men (at least the ones who have not become feminized) simply see it as taking a fucking knee, shutting their fucking mouths, and opening their fucking ears.

Posted by: Jaws at August 26, 2013 02:37 PM (4I3Uo)

147 I came in from recess one day with my paddle -ball toy--and the Mother Superior ripped off the ball and spanked me with my own paddle.
Posted by: tasker at August 26, 2013 02:02 PM (r2PLg)


That's hot!

Posted by: Chelsea Hilton at August 26, 2013 02:38 PM (GgPam)

148 You think Chubs McCain will twerk on her show?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 26, 2013 02:38 PM (FnJUz)

149
The whole "take a knee" thing shows that the principal is not only tone deaf, but is incompetent for not realizing "Hey, having American kids kneel like peons before My Power might strike people a bit odd".

It is a sickening insult to Liberty itself in my opinion.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (TSf9W



What is that common saying comparing the ubiquity of opinions and certain anatomical features? I can't quite recall...

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 26, 2013 02:39 PM (210xL)

150 The whole "take a knee" thing shows that the principal is not only tone deaf, but is incompetent for not realizing "Hey, having American kids kneel like peons before My Power might strike people a bit odd".
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 26, 2013 02:33 PM (TSf9W)



Orrrr it means the Principal comes from an athletic background.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:40 PM (4df7R)

151 I understood the reason and still thought it was rather servile. We stood in line and had to quiet down before we could go in. Habitual offenders lost their next recess.

Posted by: SARDiver at August 26, 2013 02:40 PM (8V7tx)

152 The only reason the intent is confused is because of the monolithic
gynocracy that does not understand boys, wants to turn them into little
girls with drugs or hectoring, and will never accept a practice that has
roots in male-oriented sports and the military.


...and more of the 'ettes understand the concept of "take a knee" than 'rons. *srednop*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 26, 2013 02:40 PM (/kI1Q)

153 Sounds more like rationalization that explanation. I never had a school
principal that presided over recess. Ever. Teachers did that.


My MIL got a 2 hour / day job as a recess monitor. I don't know why the teachers aren't doing it. It's probably a union thing.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:40 PM (IoTdl)

154 Sounds more like rationalization that explanation. I never had a school principal that presided over recess. Ever. Teachers did that.
Posted by: Chelsea Purp at August 26, 2013 02:37 PM (2BHYC)


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And it was also the ugliest, meanest teachers.....with paddles. Sort of like armed Waffen guards in a gulag.

But they let us play like there was no tomorrow. Thank you, ugly, mean teachers.

Posted by: Soona at August 26, 2013 02:41 PM (H99r6)

155 Orrrr it means the Principal comes from an athletic background.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 26, 2013 02:40 PM (4df7R)



So do I. I still think, while maybe not "sinister, it's definitely weird.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 26, 2013 02:41 PM (da5Wo)

156 Eh. If the kids actually *will* settle their asses down without taking a knee, then, sure, they can submit to authority on their feet or on their heads for that matter. This is just like the uniform thing---public schools in good areas don't usually have uniforms because their students and parents can handle choosing their clothes. Public schools in the ghetto have uniforms because if they don't force uniforms they have trouble. Where kids actually do settle down, the teachers and principal let them choose how.

Please note I'm not including private schools in my uniform analogy; I know they use uniforms for different reasons.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at August 26, 2013 02:42 PM (GmTxn)

157 And it was also the ugliest, meanest teachers.....with paddles. Sort of like armed Waffen guards in a gulag.

But they let us play like there was no tomorrow. Thank you, ugly, mean teachers.


Amen. But don't be the unlucky one to draw the stank eye from one of them.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:43 PM (p9JxP)

158 Please note I'm not including private schools in my uniform analogy; I know they use uniforms for different reasons.



To torment boys.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:44 PM (p9JxP)

159 I wonder how many of the "kneeling is servile" people here got paddled by school administrators when they were young.

Was that Sadism? Was the Principal getting his rocks off? Or is that just keeping the kids in line by getting their attention / negative reinforcement?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2013 02:44 PM (44jNh)

160 Amen. But don't be the unlucky one to draw the stank eye from one of them.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2013 02:43 PM (p9JxP)


-------------------------------------------------


As I always did, at least once a week. I was a bit of a wild thang on the playground.

I might add that most of those teachers had plenty of bandages and iodine. Someone was always bleeding out during recess.

Posted by: Soona at August 26, 2013 02:47 PM (H99r6)

161 But they let us play like there was no tomorrow. Thank you, ugly, mean teachers.

They knew that "tomorrow" you'd be one step closer to not being a child anymore.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 26, 2013 02:50 PM (4WhSY)

162 We had the thing where the NIC (Nun-in-Charge) came out and rang her hand bell. At the sound of the bell you froze in place. When directed, you lined up by class and filed back into the building.

Didn't have to kneel to the nuns (and those broads had a license to hurt ya) and stopped running around like a wild asshole when it was time to go back inside.

Something tells me, if this "modern educator" can't get the kids to stop and pay attention to directions any other way; he won't have any more success with "take a knee". JMO

Posted by: Department of Redundancy Department at August 26, 2013 02:50 PM (uxi9i)

163
Hell, I've killed plastic plants. Dedication to cause, baby.

Posted by: alexthechick
---------------------

Listen, you know those posters they put up when a sex offender moves into the neighborhood? If they had known about us when we moved in, they would have been putting up posters that said, "KNOWN PLANT KILLER MOVES INTO NEIGHBORHOOD" with suitable unflattering photos of myself standing over a wilted Chrysanthemum.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 26, 2013 02:52 PM (aDwsi)

164 @bonhomme: Never. I don't believe in corporal punishment by persons other than the parents. I was swatted at home when deserving.

I'm familiar with the practice in sports and in uniform. No issues with either. The former is a voluntary activity in the first place, and the military rightly counts on lawful subordination.

I just think there are ways that are effective that don't involve kneeling on command. Am I more sensitive to it, based on the relationship I now see between the people and the government? Yeah, very likely, but I stand by my opinion.

Posted by: SARDiver at August 26, 2013 02:58 PM (mWijP)

165 Ah, government schools. Because any time you have no choice, it *always* ends well. Or, on you knees.

Sorry, especially now, especially *this* government (as it has been gradually transformed over the decades into a Thing Which Thinks It Owns You), no.

People need to re-learn the ability to say no.

I know a lot of people are rightly concerned about a lack of respect for authority - but in large part "Authority" has squandered that respect, and it must be re-earned.

Earned. Not demanded.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at August 26, 2013 03:03 PM (qyfb5)

166
All you Morons and -ettes getting your undies in a bind over the "kneel" thing are acting like just likeliberals/progressives. It's downright embarassing to watch you all just beclown yourselves.

Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at August 26, 2013 03:20 PM (728Fx)

167
You like me!!! You really really like me!!!
No seriously the whole rightosphere ran with this when the first "kneel before him" headline went up. It's starting to happen an awful lot now- what we so used to associate with the left that we don't check ourselves for it. Breitbart is especially bad about this sort of thing lately. As a result we not only look foolish and communicate falsehoods but spend so much outrage on false crises that we don't have any left when things really merit outrage.

Posted by: DAve at August 26, 2013 03:52 PM (OksBo)

168 Does Principal General Zod really have to explain everyone of his rules?

Posted by: Shtetl G at August 26, 2013 03:59 PM (dlzlR)

169 What you guys don't know about controlling and keeping safe large numbers of kids is a LOT. Children should not submit to authorities? What Satanic philosophy is THAT?

Posted by: DAve at August 26, 2013 04:33 PM (OksBo)

170 I gotta give Ace and the coblogs some credit. Seems like every two weeks they get calls from the clique to ban me 'cause I'm a troll

Posted by: DAve at August 26, 2013 04:35 PM (OksBo)

171 There's no ice. Why aren't the polar bears melting?

Posted by: Theotherbruce at August 26, 2013 05:19 PM (Vcogs)

172 169
What you guys don't know about controlling and keeping safe large
numbers of kids is a LOT. Children should not submit to authorities?
What Satanic philosophy is THAT?

__________________________

Big difference between respecting authority and being servile.

Posted by: SARDiver at August 26, 2013 05:48 PM (WipwN)

173 When your ass is a hammer then everybody else is a nail.

Posted by: pendejo grande at August 26, 2013 07:27 PM (OZW5B)






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