Liberals' Obsession with Ted Cruz Rooted In Anger over His Betrayal of His Class

He rose to the top of the New Class -- but he is most decidedly not of the New Class. He rejects their tribal signifiers and shibboleths, which are chiefly expressed through taste in politics, and thus rejects them.

By denying the thing that grants them worth -- their aristocratic tastes -- he denies their worth.

And they're rather pissy about it.

Henry Adams said that politics is the systematic organization of hatreds. For the left, over the past year it has seemed at times to be the systematic organization of hatred of Ted Cruz.

...

Cruz is different — a Princeton and Harvard man who not only matriculated at those fine institutions but excelled at them. Champion debater at Princeton. Magna cum laude graduate at Harvard. Supreme Court clerkship, on the way to Texas solicitor general and dozens of cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Cruz is from the intellectual elite, but not of it, a tea party conservative whose politics are considered gauche at best at the storied universities where he studied. He is, to borrow the words of the 2009 H.W. Brands biography of FDR, a traitor to his class.

...

Democrats and liberal pundits would surely dislike Cruz no matter where he went to school, but his pedigree adds an extra element of shocked disbelief to the disdain. “Princeton and Harvard should be disgraced,” former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell exclaimed on MSNBC, as if graduating a constitutionalist conservative who rises to national prominence is a violation of the schools’ mission statements.

It almost is. Princeton and Harvard aren’t quite the École Nationale d’Administration, the French school that trains that country’s political class, but they are close.

In a Washington Post column a year ago, Dana Milbank noted Cruz’s schooling and concluded almost entirely on that basis that his tea party politics must be a put-on, that he is, underneath it all, an “intellectually curious, liberal-arts conservative.” Note the insulting assumption that an interest in books and ideas automatically immunizes someone from a certain kind of conservative politics.

You know, this style of analysis -- through the prism of class, class loyalty, class privilege -- is rising and yet it still isn't quite risen. It has two advantages: It is populist in spirit, and thus helps animate voters to take their country back from the Institutional Class which believes in its own Right to Rule, and, if that's not enough, it's also True.

I'm not quite sure why this isn't catching on more.

Oh right, because the GOP is fundamentally dumb.

For more on this, Andrew Stiles of NRO runs down the Cruz hysteria on the left.

After quoting a series of shrieks, he notes that Ted Cruz, oddly enough, enjoys no force field of protection due to his race.

It’s worth noting that people launching these attacks on Ted Cruz are the same people who instantly impute malign or racist motives to almost any criticism of President Obama. (In the world of MSNBC, for example, it is apparently racist to point out that the president plays a lot of golf, or even to refer to him as “Obama.”)

Cruz, on the other hand, is fair game.

I'm scratching my head at that. Why, it just makes no sense. I just can't figure out why this should be the case.

Posted by: Ace at 02:08 PM



Comments

1

The fear of an intelligent competitor.

*run, now, lefties

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:10 PM (IXrOn)

2 Senator Cruz deflates their pretentions. That is the real crime - he tells them that they are not special snowflakes.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 22, 2013 02:11 PM (hLRSq)

3

Cruz v Clinton

*ding

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:11 PM (IXrOn)

4 Libtards have been told repeatedly that anyone who is smart, must be a libtard as well. So here comes a very smart conservative. Their little brains just can't square these two facts....smart conservative, DOES NOT COMPUTE, DOES NOT COMPUTE, ERROR, ERROR, ERROR

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (HDgX3)

5 I like me some "off the plantation" Harvard man. *sings* I like big brains and I cannot lie... specially when they come complete with a lick of common sense.

Posted by: sweet...ish at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (bj+Nc)

6 Cruz is this decade's Sarah Palin

Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (omBWL)

7 Betrayed his class? What, he's not groping his aides?

Posted by: Former Congressman and Mayor Bob Filner at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (Pr6hk)

8 Ace is posting like a boss today.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (zF6Iw)

9 It is the ultimate betrayal by someone who went to Princeton and Harvard and didn't come in and/or or go out with leftist ideology.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (gTN+E)

10 and worse, because Palin was an Uppity Peasant while Cruz was brought into The Body and turned on Them


much worse...

Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (omBWL)

11 Raza not class.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 22, 2013 02:14 PM (Tqh1Y)

12 There's definitely a whiff of the Palin-style hate in their attacks on Cruz.
How dare this upstart nobody from a nothing red state criticize Obama?

Posted by: MSM at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (UrtRh)

13 i don't really love cruz and I think he won't play that well.

Cruz does something that rubs me the wrong way: he seems overly pious in his announcements, like Eddie Haskell or something. And he sort of smiles like he Knows Better Than His Opponent. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, per se, but he does.... he does sort of broadcast his ideological and intellectual nature, which are twin electoral turn-offs.

I could easily forgive that, except for the fact that I'm not sure the public would.

If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)

14 8 Ace is posting like a boss today.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (zF6Iw)

Debra better watch her desk.

Posted by: Austin in TX at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (F9Hpt)

15 Ace is posting like a boss today.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:13 PM (zF6Iw)


Yea, sadly I have a busy work day.

And, no, I'm not watching the Inbetweeners.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (IXrOn)

16 like I think Ted Cruz needs callouses on his hands.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (/IWYB)

17 >>>I'm scratching my head at that. Why, it just makes no sense. I just can't figure out why this should be the case.

Plantations. And a brand of a popular cookie.

Posted by: Allen West at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (VndSC)

18 It freaks them out, he's the one that got away. His pedigree is the same as the president's pedigree. Probably through similar channels and programs yet he doesn't wear his ethnic background like he's expected to wear it. Rather, he seemed to go off the reservation towards the tea party and conservatism and take sole responsibility for himself, no excuses. With Cruz around the playing field is quite level.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (/b8+5)

19 Note the insulting assumption that an interest in books and ideas automatically immunizes someone from a certain kind of conservative politics.


I probably read more books per week, that's not even including all the crap YA stuff, than those who sniff at me so disdainfully do in a year. Not to mention that my political beliefs stem from reading and attempting to understand and then implement the theories put forth in those books.


I will never forget someone with whom I used to work saying all nastily "What does Tom DeLay know, he's just an exterminator" as if there was something wrong with being that. I asked that person what was so wrong with being an exterminator and got a spluttering incoherent reply.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (VtjlW)

20 If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity
like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to
have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.


What?

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)

21 Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)

I see the same in Rand.

But, I have to say, we need a bulldog. This has become quite the war.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:18 PM (IXrOn)

22 imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands.

Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:19 PM (omBWL)

23 So I went and clicked on that NRO link.

A suggestion for Cruz or his aides: I never saw the movie about Sarah Palin, but as I recall, it opened with a montage of all the vicious garbage that the left spewed out about her. Someone should do the same for Cruz, and before every speech, he should play it, just to throw the bile back in the Democrats' faces. In fact, he should make it a non-negotiable part of any MFM appearance that they must play that montage before an interview.

If the slime on the left are going to smear Cruz, then he needs to fight back. Not later, not some time in the future. Now. Make these assholes own their words. Jam it all right back down their throats. Do that, Cruz, and you'll take off like a rocket.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (zF6Iw)

24
Muse?
Really, Ace?

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (x95s+)

25 Cruz impresses me. Trey Gowdy really impresses me.

Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (xWW96)

26 The hypocrisy of the progressive left is humorous at times. On those rare occasions when it's not destroying this Republic.

Posted by: akula51 at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (4p5/2)

27 Hey, can we consider some Governors - think folks are done voting for Legislators for Prez.

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (oDCMR)

28 ’s worth noting that people launching these attacks on Ted Cruz are the same people who instantly impute malign or racist motives to almost any criticism of President Obama. (In the world of MSNBC, for example, it is apparently racist to point out that the president plays a lot of golf, or even to refer to him as “Obama.”)
Cruz, on the other hand, is fair game.
Cruz is a white Hispanic!
NY Times

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (9XBK2)

29 imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands.
Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:19 PM (omBWL)


can't

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (IXrOn)

30 For intensity and stakes, it's like the 1800 and 1828 elections combined.

Posted by: mrp at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (HjPtV)

31 imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands.


Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:19 PM (omBWL)


He can't reach it. Someone else has to do it for him.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (GQ8sn)

32
After quoting a series of shrieks, he notes that Ted Cruz, oddly enough, enjoys no force field of protection due to his race.



He's not brown enough to be a "real" Hispanic (which is an ethnicity, but whatevs).

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (4df7R)

33 25 Cruz impresses me. Trey Gowdy really impresses me.

Gowdy is absolutely da man.

Posted by: akula51 at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (4p5/2)

34 Trey Gowdy really impresses me.
Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (xWW96)


He draws me in like a bee to honey.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (IXrOn)

35 like I think Ted Cruz needs callouses on his hands.




Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (/IWYB)

Yeah, he should start carrying a chainsaw wherever he goes.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (mMkoO)

36 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 22, 2013 02:21 PM (GjPnA)

37
they tell you who they fear

Cruz is the one

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (zOTsN)

38 Hey, can we consider some Governors - think folks are done voting for Legislators for Prez.
Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (oDCMR)


*waves Jindal flag*

Look, I think the American electorate can be summed up thusly. We want a Governor with foreign policy experience.


Yes. I know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

39 22
imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands.


Posted by: 20,000 Syrians under the sea at August 22, 2013 02:19 PM (omBWL)

Will never happen. The donut juice will keep them moisturized

Posted by: Former Congressman and Mayor Bob Filner at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (Pr6hk)

40 I am gonna have the Muse song in my head the rest of the day.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (g1DWB)

41 Who would play better with independents? Cruz or Rand Paul?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (UypUQ)

42 I don't really love cruz and I think he won't play that well.

Who WILL play well, ace and even if they played well to begin with, by the time they take the beating from the MSM which has already started against Cruz they won't play well. Combine that with a hagiographic attitude towards Hillary-presuming she's the candidate- and you'll have Barack II in a pantsuit against the "evil, smug" Ted Cruz.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (gTN+E)

43
I want to see Cruz run with Palin as VP--just to fucking SHOVE it in everyone's face.


Now let's have us a flame war.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (SAMxH)

44
18 It freaks them out, he's the one that got away. His pedigree is the same as the president's pedigree. Probably through similar channels and programs yet he doesn't wear his ethnic background like he's expected to wear it. Rather, he seemed to go off the reservation towards the tea party and conservatism and take sole responsibility for himself, no excuses. With Cruz around the playing field is quite level.
Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (/b8+5)


Pure stupidity right there in that paragraph.

Posted by: Data at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (LI48c)

45

Not sure about the callouses, but, for sure, work on the abs.

Get that stomach pouch down, please.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (IXrOn)

46 What would be better?

A more "salt of the earth" Cruz or Palin with Harvard degree?

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (u2a4R)

47 Do callouses fom jerking off count?
Anthony Weiner

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (9XBK2)

48 > imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands </

From giving handies to POTUS everytime he shows up in NJ?

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (ZWvOb)

49 imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands


Hair? Yes. Callouses? No.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (b1/nQ)

50 If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity
like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to
have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.


It's sage advice like this that has made ace so highly sought after as a campaign consultant. Instead of primary debates we should have the contestants compete in feats of strength and daring.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 02:23 PM (+lsX1)

51 Palin/Cruz 2016
Enough said

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (Yu5xN)

52
like I think Ted Cruz needs callouses on his hands.






really?? like helmet mom jeans wearing golf ball losing POTUS?

so pubs need calluses? mmmkay

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (zOTsN)

53
>>>>Cruz does something that rubs me the wrong way: he seems overly pious in his announcements, like Eddie Haskell or something.

...And might I say you're looking quite chipper today, Mr. of Spades.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (3ZtZW)

54 Sadly, I'm cynically counting the hours until Cruz becomes just another GOP Squish.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (tWmgi)

55 Look, I think the American electorate can be summed up thusly. We want a Governor with foreign policy experience.


Yes. I know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

Than the only answer is John Bolton for Maryland Gov. in 2014... followed by Bolton for Prez in '16.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (UypUQ)

56
@35

Battle axe. Lets do this old school.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (t06LC)

57 13
i don't really love cruz and I think he won't play that well.

Cruz
does something that rubs me the wrong way: he seems overly pious in his
announcements, like Eddie Haskell or something. And he sort of smiles
like he Knows Better Than His Opponent. Which is not necessarily a bad
thing, per se, but he does.... he does sort of broadcast his ideological
and intellectual nature, which are twin electoral turn-offs.

I could easily forgive that, except for the fact that I'm not sure the public would.

If
I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity like
rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to have a
less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)

I seem to remember you having the same sort of observation, fairly early on, about Christy. Wasn't it a concern along the lines of he may not be trustworthy, because his instinct is to fight and try to piss people off?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (XiVKO)

58
Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)

Because Bow hunting totally worked making the public love Paul Ryan.

It's entirely possible that the reason Cruz seems like a know-it-all is because his most obvious opponents (liberals) stopped making arguments that were based in logic a generation ago.
And he knows that, and he's adept at pointing it out. But it has the boomerang effect you described.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 02:24 PM (GaqMa)

59 Chris Christie has callouses on his lips. Several causes for that.

Posted by: Roy at August 22, 2013 02:25 PM (VndSC)

60 > like I think Ted Cruz needs callouses on his hands

I recommend beating 50 libs to death with a 10 pound sledge after every speech. Works, the arms, shoulders and core too.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at August 22, 2013 02:25 PM (ZWvOb)

61 Cruz presents quite a conundrum for the leftists: they have made their living off of the LIVs, and with Cruz, it could be their undoing (for the '14 and '16 election cycles, anyway). They can't paint him as racist or "White Hispanic," because his name is "Cruz," not "Zimmerman." So far, whatever digging through his trash bins they've done, figuratively and likely literally, they haven't been able to find anything useful. They've tried running up the eligibility question, but I think they may be realizing that it makes them look to LIVs as the same batshit crazy they painted anyone who questioned TFG's eligibility.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 22, 2013 02:25 PM (L8r/r)

62 50 We start with the airing of grievances!
Frank Costanza founder of Festivus
(a Festivus,for the rest of us)

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 02:25 PM (9XBK2)

63
38 Hey, can we consider some Governors - think folks are done voting for Legislators for Prez. Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 22, 2013 02:20 PM (oDCMR) *waves Jindal flag* Look, I think the American electorate can be summed up thusly. We want a Governor with foreign policy experience. Yes. I know.
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)


No congressman, no Senators period. I want Governors. I want governors from red or purple states. I want a sitting or recently retired governor. I want a record of accomplishment.

New Jersery is not red or purple.

Jeb Bush is not recently retired.

Working with democrats to pass a 55% shitty idea is not an accomplishment.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2013 02:25 PM (LI48c)

64 Rand Paul would definitely kick Christie's ass in a pullup contest and I think we can all agree that a pullup contest is probably the best way to win an election.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (+lsX1)

65 What I get from this is that his parents actually raised him instead of surrendering him to the schools that he attended. He clearly admires and loves his Dad so much that he includes him in his conservative speaking gigs.

I just wish he didn't have that Eric Cantor look.

Posted by: L, elle at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (0PiQ4)

66 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (/PCJa)

67 There is NO conservative Southerner who will play well with the MSM, so either the candidate sucks it up and comes out swinging or throws in the towel before the actual campaign starts

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (gTN+E)

68 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (/PCJa)

69 The only protected class are the liberal ones who worship a certain man. All other factors are moot.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (EGPJQ)

70 If there's one thing Cruz has done that disappoints me, it's considering dropping his Canadian citizenship. It disappoints me because the implication is that the GOP is rife with isolationist xenophobes who demand shows of loyalty where none are needed. It would also be a good card to play, since libtards lurve Canada and its health care system, and the fact that many Canadians despise Americans.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (bufJH)

71 I think 2016 will be a Trust election. Authenticity will count as 80% of the candidate's prerequisites for election.

Posted by: mrp at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (HjPtV)

72
@38

On Jindal, anyone know why his poll numbers are so atrocious right now? 28% approval in Louisiana?

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:26 PM (t06LC)

73
>>>>they tell you who they fear

They also tell you who they're prepared to destroy scorched earth style.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (3ZtZW)

74
Bumper sticker for Hillary
Monica Lewinsky's ex - boyfriend's wife for president

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (R8hU8)

75 And he sort of smiles like he Knows Better Than His Opponent.

McCain struck me that way too. The way he sniggers and smiles mockingly just irked me to no end. I haven't watched Cruz videos enough to know if I have the same visceral feedback from his speaking style.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (gtjN1)

76 >>Who WILL play well, ace and even if they played well to begin with, by the time they take the beating from the MSM which has already started against Cruz they won't play well. Combine that with a hagiographic attitude towards Hillary-presuming she's the candidate- and you'll have Barack II in a pantsuit against the "evil, smug" Ted Cruz.

Exactly right. Like it or not, the msm does still have immense power in setting the narrative and no matter who we nominate they will be deemed unacceptable by our betters and thoroughly trashed. And facts won't mean a damn thing.

Trayvon Martin was the victim of a racist hate crime. That Aussie kid in Oklahoma? Just another example of our out of control gun culture.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (g1DWB)

77 64. In that case Sarah Palin would kick every liberal butt out there.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 02:27 PM (EGPJQ)

78 And not to say Cruz isn't trustworthy or anything, just that you saw a character trait early on that really bit us in the ass a few years later.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 22, 2013 02:28 PM (XiVKO)

79 I'm not quite sure why this isn't catching on more.

Largely because many reporters are part of that supposed Aristocracy themselves. If you're part of the Class that is trying to repress some other Class, you don't advertise it.

There's also the part that people don't want to believe it. We don't want to believe that there's a group of people who want to Rule over us as Feudal Lords, so we try to ignore it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 02:28 PM (/PCJa)

80 No congressman, no Senators period. I want Governors. I want governors from red or purple states. I want a sitting or recently retired governor.
Posted by: buzzion


Reporting for dooty!

Posted by: Gov. John Huntsman at August 22, 2013 02:28 PM (hSwFv)

81 Let Cruz be Cruz.


Whatever he's doing, it's working. He's pissing off all the right people. There are so few Republicans worth a damn; we need to support the ones that are.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 02:28 PM (8sCoq)

82 I'm not quite sure why this isn't catching on more.

It's not catching on more because so much of the Fourth Estate considers itself /wants to be part of the Institutional Class.

Posted by: MoeRon at August 22, 2013 02:28 PM (2Q3U/)

83
most people after lap-band surgery lose weight
Christie seems to be one of those rare ones who actually put on a few pounds

Posted by: rain of lead at August 22, 2013 02:29 PM (J/npG)

84
Ace: he seems overly pious in his announcements

For a minute there, I thought you were talking about The One.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (IXrOn)

85 imagine Chris Christie with callouses on his hands lips.

Fixed. Obama's ass doesn't kiss itself, you know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (zF6Iw)

86 re 65: funny you say that. I kind of think Cruz looks kind of Jewish. Could be great fun for starting conspiracy theories. You can almost see the cartoons of Cruz (with a bigger nose) as a puppet being controlled by the evil Zionists. (If Cruz became Pres and was pro Israel, you know you'd see cartoons like that in places like Iran.)

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (bJm7W)

87 Cruz has been known to do like ten cartwheels in a row but if he's never done it in public. Whoever is advising him needs to get their fucking act together - people eat this shit up.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (+lsX1)

88 If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.

Have to disagree with you, ace. I'm tired of politicians who try to be someone other than they are just for political expedience. If he wanted to take up rock-climbing because he thought it would be interesting, or if he decided to take up cycling because it was an enjoyable way to get some fresh air and exercise, then fine. But if he does it because his political strategists tell him it would make him more relatable, then no. It would be too obvious and strained. Think John Kerry's infamous, "Can I get me a huntin' license?" charade.

He should just be himself. What you call know-it-allness is what I call "telling the other guy s/he's an idiot in clear terms."

YMMV.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (4df7R)

89 Leftists/Progressives aren't meant to be understood from reason or logic or common sense. They are meant to be mocked.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (BAS5M)

90
Sarah Palin would kick every liberal butt out there.


Let. It. Go.

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (x95s+)

91 This is all very interesting, but off the mark.

They are trying to destroy him because (in the words of James Carville) the man is absolutely fearless, and the most gifted political talent in decades.

The idea that he can't be "otherized" as another low brow Texan or red neck snowbilly terrifies them to no end.

Add to this the fact that his last name is Cruz, and you have the makings of a serious spike in Zoloft sales in the blue states. (to say nothing of the wannabe blue blooded republican class)

Posted by: AtlasMugged at August 22, 2013 02:30 PM (URn6H)

92
80 No congressman, no Senators period. I want Governors. I want governors from red or purple states. I want a sitting or recently retired governor. Posted by: buzzionReporting for dooty!
Posted by: Gov. John Huntsman at August 22, 2013 02:28 PM (hSwFv)


Suck it Obama Buttboy. You also fail the accomplishment portion.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (LI48c)

93 MWR, I think ace is funning us.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (GQ8sn)

94 Republicans are getting more populist.

This is because the Repubs and Dems have traded white voters over the last generation. Middle and lower class whites used to be Dems, and upper class whites used to be Repubs.

Dems now have a coalition of upper-class whites united with huge majorities of blacks, hispanics, and asians who group together to shit on middle and lower class whites. Especially lower class whites.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (ZPrif)

95 (If Cruz became Pres and was pro Israel, you know you'd see cartoons like that in places like Iran.)

...or any college campus

Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (iEoiA)

96 83

most people after lap-band surgery lose weight
Christie seems to be one of those rare ones who actually put on a few pounds

Posted by: rain of lead at August 22, 2013 02:29 PM (J/npG)

--Barky's spooge is not as low-cal as Christie thought.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (bufJH)

97 The only way Christie gets callouses on his hands is if he uses a bigger fork.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (EGPJQ)

98 I'd suspect his race has more to do with any "traitor" status than his class. Look at how the Left treats any non-white Republican (even the squishiest, RINO-iest of the lot.)

Posted by: Hal at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (MftY/)

99
he is dropping his Canadian citizenship so progs cant make it an issue

Rand will never get it, because his craze fucking old man will never shut up, and remind people that Rand may be a stealth Ron

We bitch and moan that we want a real conservative, and when we find one, who is smart, educated, passionate and fearless we complain that he doesn't have Ryans six pack or someone elses good looks. Oh, and there must be calluses because electability?

that's fucked up

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (zOTsN)

100 It's not catching on more because so much of the Fourth Estate considers itself /wants to be part of the Institutional Class.



I have no problem with President Cruz wanting to institutionalize them.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 02:32 PM (b1/nQ)

101 The left and MSM ALWAYS show us whom they fear the most. Sadly, many on our side can't see that and jump right in to the circular firing squads.

Posted by: Havedash at August 22, 2013 02:32 PM (F0WNa)

102 Suck it Obama Buttboy. You also fail the accomplishment portion.

Posted by: buzzion


Ni hao ma! Ni hao ma!

Posted by: Gov. John Huntsman at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (hSwFv)

103 Order of preference...

Walker
Martinez
Cruz
Nikki Haley
Rubio
Rick Perry
Paul
Christie


Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (UypUQ)

104 They hateJohn Bolton and Clarence Thomas extra hard also. Thomas is got a double whammy going against him. Traitor to the elites and his race.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (m2CN7)

105 Furthermore, the cost of transporting and protecting the President is going to be relatively high no matter who has been elected as POTUS and no matter where he/she visits. That is how it has always been and always will be.
I suspect the unmitigated outrage and indignation about taxpayer cost for everything and anything done by THIS President is a matter of some complexion.
Speaking of the truth, Upon further research, turns out Obama HAS worked a day in his life. in 1979, Ice cream scooper in a Honolulu Baskin-Robbins President-elect Barack Obama worked at this South King Street ice cream shop located on a major street. The workers and manager at the ice cream shop confirmed that Mr. Obama worked there.
In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book. He then taught at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law. I have more examples, but you don’t care!
Here is the truth! Bo, a Portuguese water dog, hitched a ride on one of two Osprey MV-22 helicopters that landed with various personnel ahead of President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama, The Telegraph newspaper in Britain reported.
LANDED with various Personnel. Try researching something first.
Obama is not Muslim, enough already. Muslims are currently observing the holy month of Ramadan when they fast from dawn till dusk, is Obama fasting from dawn till dusk? I doubt it, and also Muslims don’t drink alcohol, remember the whole beer summit thing? Obama is not Muslim, and if he is then he is a pretty bad one.
No … on all five counts … some people who accepted a dimwit who cheated his way into the presidency in 2000 and voted him in again are quite happy to criticize Obama for any reason they can … BTW who exactly did Obama ‘usurp’ … Mittens … no … President Obama won handsomely … ! President Obama is not Anti-American … his only problem in the eyes of some is his name and his color … !
Obama is a good man. Republicans go nuts on him because his ethics is unmatched by anyone in their party. And he’s a black dude with a funny name.
There is a very, very, very long list of right-wing lies that too many people believe, either because they desperately want to believe or they’re just stupid.
Calling the POTUS a POS and a fraud seems to the usual calling call for you right-wing racists and bigots like them!
Saying that the White House should be fumigated alter he leaves is the words of an Idiot.

Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)

106 Think John Kerry's infamous, "Can I get me a huntin' license?" charade.

I ain't in no ways tahrd of huntin' up some possums. Can I get an Amen?!

Posted by: Southern Hillary! at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (8ifMA)

107 mallfly --- I didn't mean to imply that Cruz looks Jewish. I meant that he looks effeminate like he's wearing eyeliner --- the way that Eric Cantor always looks to me.

Posted by: L, elle at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (0PiQ4)

108
Damn Straight Skippy.

Pisses me off that Cruz, my future Worst Person Of The World, is Magma Cum Loudly at HARVARD.

We all know the "special people" go to places.... like..... Cornell. (ag)

Posted by: Keefums Olberman at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (nELVU)

109 A lot of people aren't aware that Cruz attended Princeton on a tetherball scholarship.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (+lsX1)

110
103.
That looks like Cankles' future BJ list.

Posted by: Whoa! at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (EGPJQ)

111
@105
Dafuq? Seriously, crack is bad for you.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (t06LC)

112 Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)

--If you copied and pasted from elsewhere, you'd better give attribution.

P.S. TL DR

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (bufJH)

113 qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)

Derp. Derp, derp. Derpitty, derp, derp, derp.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (g1DWB)

114 "Libtards have been told repeatedly that anyone who is smart, must be a libtard as well."

They have come to believe that their own preferences for certain things - likes and dislikes - are signifiers of intelligence and taste. Certain foods, types of entertainment, ways of dressing are the signifiers they take on. It is like what Glen Reynolds says about how people think if you subsidize the markers of middle classness you will get more middle class, when the markers are actually not for middle classness but for things such as hard work, sobriety, thrift, and so on.

You can imagine how it goes when the progressive finds a person who obviously has intelligence - Cruz's achievements are undeniable - and he rejects all of the rest of the markers that the progressives assign to intelligence. He is telling them that those markers do not make you smart, they are just choices and no more invalid than another choice. That is going to the very empty core of their beings and they cannot forgive him for that; and they want to destroy him because his very existence rubs their shallowness into their faces. He forces them to face the fraudulent emptiness that is their lives

And who the hell wants to take a good long introspective look into his own soul? Hence the viciousness of the attacks.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (hLRSq)

115 Any Repub will be destroyed by the media.

Rich like John Kerry? Out of touch, rich white guy Mitt Romney.
Angry and glib like Howard Dean? Crazy man bomb-thrower Newt Gingrich.
Hunter like Joe Biden? Weird animal killer Paul Ryan.
Intellectual Ivy league minority like Obama? Prissy, annoying egghead Ted Cruz.
Southern governor with the common touch like Bill Clinton? Redneck retard Rick Perry.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (ZPrif)

116 We want a Governor with foreign policy experience. Yes. I know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

I think many of us have fallen into the intellectual trap that foreign policy is difficult, with complex issues swirling around us that require years of experience.

For rebuttal I present the United State Department of State.

QED.

In reality, there are some simple rules, that if obeyed will yield an excellent foreign policy. That fellow from Texas who doesn't have a blog has listed them a few times, but here is my attempt.

Unconditional support for our traditional allies (UK, Australia, Israel, Canada), and support conditional to reciprocal support for all others.

Robust (disproportionate) response to any attacks.

Support freedom for those who will then support us, but remain uninvolved in all other revolts, revolutions or "struggles."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (gqgiP)

117 Somebody get questionnman some Lithium, STAT!

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (8ifMA)

118
106 Think John Kerry's infamous, "Can I get me a huntin' license?" charade.

I ain't in no ways tahrd of huntin' up some possums. Can I get an Amen?!


Funny, I always thought Hillary liked hunting beaver.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:36 PM (t06LC)

119 Questionmann: Because Mary Clogginstein of Battleboro, VT is just too intellectually rigorous for some lefties.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (TOk1P)

120 Cruz / Palin.

I'd love that, too, just to shove it in the left's smug faces. But it would never work. To begin with, choosing Palin would be a blow very hard for Cruz to recover from. She still has the undeserved "snowbilly" rep, and Cruz choosing McStain's cast-offs would be a signal that he's just as much of an ignorant war hawk racist as McStain was.

As well, considering Palin's refusal to kick the senile old bastard in the nuts, I could see too many offsloughings of his campaign getting together to sabotage Cruz.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (zF6Iw)

121 @23- MPPPP

If the movie about Sarah you're talking about is The Undefeated, I highly recommend it.
I recommend it even more for anyone who doesn't like her or think she's up to the task.
Unless they're askeered of course.

Posted by: nothinglefttolose at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (K4AdI)

122 Who is the troll trying to answer? The voices in his head?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (v3pYe)

123
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (UypUQ)


Do you seriously have Rubio in that list?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (4df7R)

124
105 qestionman
...
I remember when I had my first beer too.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (EGPJQ)

125 Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)

Your rant is hard to read because it has no paragraphs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (gTN+E)

126 Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)

--If you copied and pasted from elsewhere, you'd better give attribution.

P.S. TL DR
Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM (bufJH)



h/t The Internet

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (IXrOn)

127 If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)

--------------------------

Like when they tried to butch John Kerry up? He looked like an even bigger douche than he normally does. That's what happens when you put someone in checked flannel and a blaze orange vest, armed with the same side-parted hairsprayed politician hairdo they wear in D.C. It looks fake because it is fake. Is that what we want in a candidate?

Also, I reject this idea that he's not OF the New Class. Of course he fucking is. He went to the same schools, held the same jobs, and the biggest signifier of all is that he's in the House of Lords.

He's an outsider like Camille Paglia is a liberal "outsider." Ooooo! Look at me! I'm so fucking transgressive with my tuna-licking and bondage porn as "art" monographs.

Make no mistake. He is every bit the powdered douchestocking that the rest of them are. Will he be useful to us? That's all I care about.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (CJjw5)

128 You know, this style of analysis -- through the prism of class, class loyalty, class privilege -- is rising and yet it still isn't quite risen.

Because people like ace call people who take this approach proudly anti-intellectual.

Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (W6bkf)

129 Who is the troll trying to answer? The voices in his head?

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (gTN+E)

130 Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)



Your rant is hard to read because it has no paragraphs. is retarded.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (gTN+E)

Fixed.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (GQ8sn)

131 >Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)


fuck. you again.

go jerk off somewhere else

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (8sCoq)

132 Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:33 PM (UypUQ)

Do you seriously have Rubio in that list?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (4df7R)



and, no Jindal

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (IXrOn)

133
A lot of people aren't aware that Cruz attended Princeton on a tetherball scholarship.


Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 02:35 PM


We have a winner!

Dammit, now I have to go back to work. The boss came charging out of his office asking "What's so funny?" and I had to make up some shit about Generally Accepted Accounting Principles....

Posted by: AltonJackson and The Middle Class at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (9HP5k)

134
I see questionmann has won the Inane Stupidity Award in a walk this week.

Next up will be the Comic Relief finals. Sure to be a shoo-in for him also.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (SAMxH)

135 like I think Ted Cruz needs callouses on his hands.
Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (/IWYB)


-----------------------------------------------


I've always had the impression you didn't like populism.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (q0G29)

136
they will attack anyone who they fear

they loved McCain until he ran

they even loved Romney till he ran

the stupidest thin in the world is to pick the candidate the MFM disapproves of the least. That's how we lose.

Calluses on the hands? so the mouth breathers not in NYC will vote for him? Is that the thinking?


that's fucked up

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (zOTsN)

137 >>Your rant is hard to read because it has no paragraphs.

Thats only one reason its hard to read.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (g1DWB)

138 93
MWR, I think ace is funning us.


Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:31 PM (GQ8sn)

I'm not certain about that... I get the same kind of piety vibe from Cruz that he's talking about.

In terms of the rock-climbing etc, I agree that's probably a bridge too far but I agree with what Ace is saying about his delivery.

Go watch the video of him reading the #StandWithRand tweets again. It comes through there.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (tWmgi)

139 Uhhh. . .what was the frequency there at 105, Kenneth?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (zF6Iw)

140 If you copied and pasted from elsewhere, you'd better give attribution.

He's posted the same bs before.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:39 PM (gTN+E)

141 Your rant is hard to read because it has no paragraphs.

If you want, you can copy / paste it into an editor and add paragraphs. Then you can read it.

If you're going to do that though, I suggest adding a prologue, "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." is kinda snappy.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (45N4D)

142 If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded.

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)


But, chalk balls are racist...
Just sayin'.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (IXrOn)

143
@116

I'd say you're spot on there. Anyone who has successfully raised kids can do foreign policy. A lot of the same carrot/stick approaches, being consistent, etc.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (t06LC)

144 qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:34 PM (TS9aB)

no match

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (9HP5k)

145 Saying that the White House should be fumigated alter he leaves is the words of an Idiot.

Actually, that's right. Mooch has been in there, too.

It needs to be deloused.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (zF6Iw)

146 >>>93
MWR, I think ace is funning us.

about cruz' too-pious bearing?

Nah, I mean it. I'm not saying it's the Worst Thing in the World but I do have a problem seeing him as president.

it's a style thing. Just saying he should probably work on that.

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (/IWYB)

147 #113, Mr. JackStraw: "Derp. Derp, derp. Derpitty, derp, derp, derp"


May I quote you when I speak to my liberal sister-in-law later today?

Posted by: MoeRon at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (2Q3U/)

148 Do you seriously have Rubio in that list?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (4df7R)

Hey, he's low down. I'm hesitant to 100% write anybody off. His biggest sin is incredible naivety.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (UypUQ)

149 We bitch and moan that we want a real conservative, and when we find
one, who is smart, educated, passionate and fearless we complain that he
doesn't have Ryans six pack or someone elses good looks. Oh, and there
must be calluses because electability?

that's fucked up


If it's fucked up, it's a reflection of electoral politics being fucked up.

No matter how otherwise perfect we might consider a candidate to be, they're little more than a liability if they don't have good chance of winning.

The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (SY2Kh)

150 Given the quality of republican candidates we have been forced the choose from for the last few decades I'm thinking the selection process should involve skydiving, with the candidates packing their own canopy.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (epxV4)

151 Who is this questionman who can't even spell his/her/its nic correctly, and why is it mouth farting on the blog?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (4df7R)

152 Well, the Ivy League sure has done a bang-up job so far. I'm not sure what they're so proud of that Cruz is "betraying".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (TIIx5)

153

There's no YOU in qestionmann!

You rubes will never understand his genius!

Posted by: imp at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (L9AnB)

154 The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.

Who is......?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gTN+E)

155 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (CJjw5)

Paglia does not always think in lockstep with the intelligentsia, and so I will read her occasionally.

And she is no fan of Hillary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gqgiP)

156 Fuck off, questionmann!

Posted by: Mysterion at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (bufJH)

157 Nah, I mean it. I'm not saying it's the Worst Thing in the World but I do have a problem seeing him as president.


One can never tell when you are subtly messing with us.

I don't see it, honestly. I get that he's as credentialed as the next DC operator. Sure! But he's on our side (for now), and I love the fact that the libs lose their shit over him. He's not playing by the rules they made!

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (GQ8sn)

158 I was listening to the demented old Immus (in the morning) with drool running from the corner of his mouth start trash talking Cruz the other day.

The left is wetting their pants and panties at the thought of Cruz being a strong conservative. He's got a strong story -- one that could grab all the conservative base, and most of the squishes in the middle. Powerful stuff.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (U2UQk)

159 You know, this style of analysis -- through the prism of class, class
loyalty, class privilege -- is rising and yet it still isn't quite
risen.


Disagree with you there ace. Any University since at least the '70's adheres to the holy trinity of Race, Class, Gender. Every idea is ground through that mess before it gets presented to students.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (45N4D)

160 and, no Jindal

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (IXrOn)

Jindal wont run if Perry is also running. Those dudes have a pact.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:43 PM (UypUQ)

161 it's a style thing. Just saying he should probably work on that.
Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (/IWYB)


Understood.

I expect, if he were to throw his hat in the ring, he'd have handlers to help him with the delivery. THEN it's a matter of making sure he has the RIGHT handlers. Karl Rove? Not the right handler.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:43 PM (4df7R)

162 h/t The Internet

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (IXrOn)

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Heh..... quickie google search revealed questionman copied and pasted the same on several con-blogsites.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 02:43 PM (nELVU)

163
133 -

Darnit, I started laughing at your line about "generally accepted accounting practices," and I had to make up a story about finding the humor in teenage suicide rates.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (TOk1P)

164
o yeh wait i forgot...

Won't be Cruz.

/Carry on.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (3ZtZW)

165 Bush had a Harvard MBA, and was a jet fighter pilot but he talks funny so OMG Teh Dumb.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (9Bdcz)

166
@160

Yeah, but again, does anyone know why jock itch has higher approval ratings in LA than Jindal? I thought he was doing awesome sandwiches over there full time.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (t06LC)

167 it's a style thing. Just saying he should probably work on that.
Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:40 PM (/IWYB)



my first thought when I saw it was smarmy

not pious

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (IXrOn)

168 "After quoting a series of shrieks, he notes that Ted Cruz, oddly enough, enjoys no force field of protection due to his race"

Maybe because Hispanic is a liberal made up term and Cruz is obviously white. Stop using the terms of the left. Language means something in the culture war.

The term hispanic was created so the Progressive socialist liberals could have another victim group it could ruin. The fact it depresses white population numbers, via statisticsl slight of hand, is and added bonus.

40% if Hispanics self identify as white. Yes, there are White Hispanics and Cruz is an example.

Posted by: BatBoy at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (WRjK1)

169 The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (SY2Kh)


------------------------------------------


Sort of like us talking ourselves into thinking Romney was a conservative because......wait for it......ROMNEY CAN WIN!

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (q0G29)

170 > Heh..... quickie google search revealed questionman copied and pasted the same on several con-blogsites.

His workday is done. He can pick up his medicinal ganja allotment for the day and toke til bedtime now.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (ZWvOb)

171 42
I don't really love cruz and I think he won't play that well.



Who WILL play well, ace and even if they played well to begin with,
by the time they take the beating from the MSM which has already started
against Cruz they won't play well. Combine that with a hagiographic
attitude towards Hillary-presuming she's the candidate- and you'll have
Barack II in a pantsuit against the "evil, smug" Ted Cruz.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (gTN+E)
**************Agree about the beating. Your description made me laugh and conjure up an image of Cruz in a mocking "pantsuit" with a big Madeline Albright pin on the lapel standing on the stage debating Hillary.
In Peruvia some of our mens are so attired.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (rznx3)

172 >Who is this questionman who can't even spell his/her/its nic correctly, and why is it mouth farting on the blog?


it stops by from time to time- like a bird that shits on your car

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (8sCoq)

173 Half a Canuck is better than none!

Posted by: Bruce at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (vJfir)

174 But, chalk balls are racist...

I guess I should stop chalking them then. TIL.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (45N4D)

175 O/T

Speaking of the big gorilla in the room. Guest what race these perps are? This happens all the time in my neighborhood, not.


http://tinyurl.com/lo79pb7

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (wR+pz)

176 The Left used Class analysis back when Rockefeller Repubs ruled the world.

Now that the upper class all vote Democrat -- they aren't so interested in that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (ZPrif)

177 >>May I quote you when I speak to my liberal sister-in-law later today?

No liberal can stand up to the assume power of the derp.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (g1DWB)

178 The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.

Who is......?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gTN+E)

Scott Walker.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (UypUQ)

179 Anyone notice the freakout on the NASDAQ? It broke-y

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (hO9ad)

180
The idea that he needs to be a lumberjack with a false folksy drawl and manner to be elected sounds like regional stereotyping and snobbery

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (zOTsN)

181 >>>I've always had the impression you didn't like populism.

no I've always been ambivalent on it, recognizing its power to animate people while also being a bit wary of its ability to descend into pure wrath (and thereby turn people off).

it's a genuine force in politics. There is no winning campaign that isn't to some degree populist. But because people are turned off by populism, populist appeals are usually disguised as more high-minded (New Class approved) things.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (/IWYB)

182 It's funny how Lefturds can't believe Tea Party types have ever read a
book. I'll pit my library of F.A. Hayek, Adam Smith, John Locke,
Thucydides, Cicero and hundreds of books on history and culture against
their viewings of The Daily Show any day of the week.

Judging
from the comments I see on this blog, most smug Lefties would be ass-raped by the average Moron when it comes to matters of literacy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

183 Damn Ace, sometimes you can see with great insight.



The "Court" is displeased.


Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (bb5+k)

184 "Oh right, because the GOP is fundamentally dumb."
===================================

Isn't this actually a point of agreement between Dana Millbank and Ace?

Posted by: MTF at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (ZuiHO)

185 He's too emotional.

I don't like male politician's like that--it's manipulative.


To the guys here--it might be how you feel when chicks cry.

Or remember--Hillary crying?

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (r2PLg)

186
>>>The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.
>>>>Who is......?

Nobody with an affiliation to the GOP

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (r2PLg)

189 yep, nasadaq be brokey-broke.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (ZPrif)

190 Heh..... quickie google search revealed questionman copied and pasted the same on several con-blogsites.


Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 02:43 PM (nELVU)

--If there's a plus, his duplicate rants will fuck the NSA up.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (bufJH)

191 Shumer is my homeboy!

Posted by: qestionmann at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (TS9aB)

192 Heading for the Barrel now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

193 and there is of course smart populism and dumb (counterproductive) populism, as there are smart and dumb versions of virtually everything, except Harry Reid, which only has a dumb version, and that version might also abduct children.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (/IWYB)

194 it stops by from time to time- like a bird that shits on your car
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 02:45 PM (8sCoq)



Ugh, reminds me of a time I parked off campus while attending college. Grabbed the shade under the tree - came back to find that the car utterly covered with bird crap, front to back.

I had washed the car recently too.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (oY6Yp)

195 I'm happy to learn the pres had one real job in his life.
Baskin Robbins .
Which is nice .

Posted by: awkward davies at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (WK8VM)

196 If he's so smart why doesn't he believe in Global Warming and Abortion huh???????

Posted by: LIV at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (32Ze2)

197 Eddie Haskell or not, I'm not sure how much that view is shared amongst your peers. Sure, everyone can learn some style points, but a little perspective is in order. Every lib out there is a condescending ***. Doesn't seem to matter.

Posted by: dogfish at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (NuPNl)

198
186
>>>The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.
>>>>Who is......?

Nobody with an affiliation to the GOP




Hillary?

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (t06LC)

199 Bush had a Harvard MBA, and was a jet fighter pilot but he talks funny so OMG Teh Dumb.
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (9Bdcz)


Yep. "Nucular." Drove the left nuts. I told one guy that's how Carter pronounced it, too, and Dems never gave him shit. Naturally, the response was, "LIAR!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (zF6Iw)

200 Judging

from the comments I see on this blog, most smug Lefties would be
ass-raped by the average Moron when it comes to matters of literacy.


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

---
Speaking of ass rape...... close the hash. And the barrel is Thataway.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (nELVU)

201 Uh oh, Cicero!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (4df7R)

202 yep, nasadaq be brokey-broke.]

I love the idea of the Tech Index being shut down because of tech issues.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (/PCJa)

203 Hey, he's low down. I'm hesitant to 100% write anybody off. His biggest sin is incredible naivety.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (UypUQ)

For me, it's the lies, assuming we were too stupid to see through his daft arguments, the grasping ambition, and the adoption of Obamacare tactics for the immigration law.

100% written off. Forever.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (r+7wo)

204 Cicero, please report to the barrel.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (GQ8sn)

205 So, Ace. What is your definition of callouses? I'm thinking that by the time Cruz gets to 2016, the MFM, the elite repubs, race baiting, among so many other things the dems will be throwing at him, he's going to have plenty of callouses.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (q0G29)

206 It's sage advice like this that has made ace so highly sought after as a campaign consultant. Instead of primary debates we should have the contestants compete in feats of strength and daring.
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Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (VtjlW)

207
Scott Walker is the ideological twin of Ryan. Who was all in for amnesty.

Yay!!!! that spells pure win!!

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (zOTsN)

208 I think Chris Christie and Rand Paul or Cruz end up canceling each other out.

Neutralize each other.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (r2PLg)

209 Pssst, Cicero!

Posted by: The Barrel at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (bufJH)

210 The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.

Who is......?Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gTN+E)


The greatness. . .that is . . .Zach Greineke!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (zF6Iw)

211

Who has the recall of facts and intelligence to debate someone like, say, Hillary, who would pass a lie detector test lying the entire session.

Who has the balls to call her a liar on TV, and set the record straight?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (IXrOn)

212 >>>So, Ace. What is your definition of callouses? I'm thinking that by the
time Cruz gets to 2016, the MFM, the elite repubs, race baiting, among
so many other things the dems will be throwing at him, he's going to
have plenty of callouses.

I mean real callouses.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (/IWYB)

213 40% if Hispanics self identify as white. Yes, there are White Hispanics and Cruz is an example.

Posted by: BatBoy at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (WRjK1)

Yes.

The "Hispanic" from Argentina via Madrid does not want to be lumped in with the 5'3" Bolivian gardener or the coal Black Haitian.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (gqgiP)

214
@193

I think Domenech is on the right track with his libertarian populism. The lynchpin and the most difficult part will be to explain how big government empowers big business to screw the little guy. That is not intuitive in itself.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (t06LC)

215 Oh, hey, that's right. Our benighted Preezy is off on his bus tour, speechifying. Has anyone heard anything he's been gaseously burping to his crowds of worshipful followers today? Anything suitably mockworthy?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:50 PM (4df7R)

216 43

I want to see Cruz run with Palin as VP--just to fucking SHOVE it in everyone's face.


Now let's have us a flame war.


Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (SAMxH)

Giggles@IG. You ol' instigator you! I never read you swear before.

Love ya man!

Posted by: jem at August 22, 2013 02:50 PM (fM4kr)

217
@212

He should take up crossfit. Nothing a few burpee pullups or toes to bar can't fix.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:50 PM (t06LC)

218 Than the only answer is John Bolton for Maryland Gov. in 2014... followed by Bolton's Moustachefor Prez in '16.
FIFY

Posted by: MrObvious at August 22, 2013 02:50 PM (jgcLl)

219 211

Who has the recall of facts and intelligence to debate someone like, say, Hillary, who would pass a lie detector test lying the entire session.

Who has the balls to call her a liar on TV, and set the record straight?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (IXrOn)


*************

Oh there is a guy....

not on all y'alls radar yet.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (r2PLg)

220 >>>It's sage advice like this that has made ace so highly sought after
as a campaign consultant. Instead of primary debates we should have the
contestants compete in feats of strength and daring.

well I don't mean "rock climb in public."

Look, I'm dancing around this, so I'll just say it: He's not manly.

Sorry, but I had to spell it out.

I'm suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside. Which will then be visible on the outside.



Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB)

221 Judging from the comments I see on this blog, most smug Lefties would be ass-raped by the average Moron when it comes to matters of literacy.

Did somebody say, "ass-rape?"

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (zF6Iw)

222 148 Do you seriously have Rubio in that list?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (4df7R)

Hey, he's low down. I'm hesitant to 100% write anybody off. His biggest sin is incredible naivety.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:41 PM (UypUQ)

I thought it was lying through his fucking teeth.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (WBUS9)

223 DefenseNews reports that Army ordering massive cuts. Plan to cut 25% due in 3 weeks.

---
The Secretary of the Army and the Army Chief of Staff have given their staffs just weeks — until Sept. 11 — to report back with “a comprehensive set of recommendations” as to where the service can make 25 percent cuts in funding and manning levels at all Army headquarters elements at the 2-star level and above.

The “2013 Army Focus Area Review Group” plan was spelled out in an August 14 Army document obtained by Defense News.

In some of the strongest language yet about how seriously Army leadership is taking the cuts, the memo bluntly says that “Let there be no mistake, aggregate reductions WILL TAKE PLACE. The money is gone; our mission now is to determine how best to allocate these cuts while maintaining readiness. We expect Army leaders, military and civilian, to seize this opportunity
to re-shape our Army. This effort will take PRIORITY OVER ALL other Headquarters, Department of the Army activities.”

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (ZPrif)

224 210
The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win.



Who is......?Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gTN+E)



The greatness. . .that is . . .Zach Greineke!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (zF6Iw)

--Will he be 35? Better consult Mallamutt . . .

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (bufJH)

225 Romney didn't get the pubs to vote. Cruz will animate the base. We haven't had that in years

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (zOTsN)

226 Who is......?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gTN+E)


I'm not sure. But it's not unreasonable to question whether Cruz would connect with the electorate.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (SY2Kh)

227 I can see that Cruz isn't going to get his garbage humped until he makes a few changes.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (u2a4R)

228 I love the idea of the Tech Index being shut down because of tech issues.

Unprecedented!

Posted by: Faceplant IPO at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (hO9ad)

229 40% if Hispanics self identify as white. Yes, there are White Hispanics and Cruz is an example.Posted by: BatBoy at August 22, 2013 02:44 PM (WRjK1)

Which is why hispanic is an ethnicity and "white" or "black" are race categories.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (4df7R)

230 Does wind surfing give you callouses?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (QDk4A)

231
>>>The greatness. . .that is . . .Zach Greineke!

Lance Winslow

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (3ZtZW)

232 >I mean real callouses.




Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (/IWYB)


I can imagine every televised debate beginning with some form of the short-arm inspection scene from "Full Metal Jacket"

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (8sCoq)

233 I mean real callouses.

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (/IWYB)

Then you accept the meme of the Red State governor being the most rational choice.

Because senators, almost axiomatically, are effete talkers who thrive on collaboration.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (gqgiP)

234 I was at some long gathering once and a guy had his car parked under a tree. When he came out it was covered with bird poop and someone had put a sign on it saying, "Pay Toilet-10 cents".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (gTN+E)

235 193 and there is of course smart populism and dumb (counterproductive) populism, as there are smart and dumb versions of virtually everything, except Harry Reid, which only has a dumb version, and that version might also abduct children.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:47 PM (/IWYB)

I literally almost choked on my drink.

Reminder: do not read anything ace writes while there is food or drink in your buccal cavity.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (r+7wo)

236 For me, it's the lies, assuming we were too stupid to see through his daft arguments, the grasping ambition, and the adoption of Obamacare tactics for the immigration law.

100% written off. Forever.


This.

If Rubio had honestly pushed Amnesty, I might have been able to accept "incredible naivety." By lying to our faces, engaging in "back room deals" and other such tactics, he's shown that it wasn't mere "naivety" for him to be pushing Amnesty.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (/PCJa)

237 I had no idea the NASDAQ also runs on Pixy's hamsters.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (Nbo6I)

238
The "Hispanic" from Argentina via Madrid does
not want to be lumped in with the 5'3" Bolivian gardener or the coal
Black Haitian.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 02:49 PM (gqgiP)

--According to Demotard Common Sense, both Sammy Sosa and the Pope are equally Hispanic.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (bufJH)

239 154 The best candidate is the most conservative candidate that can win. Who is......?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:42 PM (gTN+E)


The one the MSM picks for us, of course!

Posted by: Havedash at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (F0WNa)

240
@220

I don't recall John Wayne ever rock climbing now you mention it. Yep, too effeminate. Clint did a few times.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (t06LC)

241 223 Great,I'm sure they'll make sure to keep all the gays,women and properly left wing troops.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (9XBK2)

242 Rubio is too short.


Ya it gets that...dumb.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (r2PLg)

243


Carl Icahn
@Carl_C_Icahn


















Spoke to Tim. Planning dinner in September. Tim believes in buyback and is doing one. What will be discussed is magnitude.
http://tinyurl.com/lex2qct

Icahn Tweets The AAPL Rescue Orders
http://tinyurl.com/lvpoh2g

What?????

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (/b8+5)

244
whoever is animated by Christy will not be animated by Cruz. Rand has no chance. Christy will pull even less than Romney.

Standing up to the JEF is butch enough. No one else is doing it

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

245 Hey, he's low down. I'm hesitant to 100% write anybody off. His biggest sin is incredible naivety.

Rubio doesn't think my citizenship is worth anything. That's a problem.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (hO9ad)

246
>>>Oh, hey, that's right. Our benighted Preezy is off on his bus tour, speechifying. Has anyone heard anything he's been gaseously burping to his crowds of worshipful followers today? Anything suitably mockworthy?

Something about college tuitions, like where the colleges get rated on different scales and then aid is doled according to whether they toe the govt line, or something. I tuned it out.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (3ZtZW)

247 Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB)

So he's look effete? You're suggesting body building?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (gTN+E)

248 “Let there be no mistake, aggregate reductions WILL TAKE PLACE. The
money is gone; our mission now is to determine how best to allocate
these cuts while maintaining readiness. We expect Army leaders, military
and civilian, to seize this opportunity

to re-shape our Army. This effort will take PRIORITY OVER ALL other Headquarters, Department of the Army activities.”



How soon will TFG send troops to Syria?

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:54 PM (GQ8sn)

249 Rubio is too short.


Ya it gets that...dumb.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (r2PLg)



tasker, I mean this from the bottom of my heart shaped cavity. Fuck. You.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (VtjlW)

250

70If there's one
thing Cruz has done that disappoints me, it's considering dropping his Canadian
citizenship. It disappoints me because the implication is that the GOP is rife
with isolationist xenophobes who demand shows of loyalty where none are needed.
It would also be a good card to play, since libtards lurve Canada and its
health care system, and the fact that many Canadians despise Americans.

Posted by: logprof

He's right to drop it now
so it doesn't look like he was forced to cave later?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (VLifP)

251 Gawd Rand Paul standing UP! to Hillary!

Bad visual--sorry.

And it has been about that since the JFK Nixon debate.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (r2PLg)

252 "Republicans go nuts on him because his ethics is unmatched by anyone in their party."

Q-mann, you are so correct, but not in the way you think you are.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (hLRSq)

253
220 -

Agreed. He's got a bit of that George Zimmerman type of athleticism about him.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (TOk1P)

254 I'd like to see this catchup...

Cruz vs. O'Malley

It'd be the contest between the condescending-grin and the spiteful-wince.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (UypUQ)

255 Yeah Rudy Giuliani never had a smarmy attitudeor smarter than you attitude to his opponents. Perception is based a lot on who you support.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (m2CN7)

256 *matchup*

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (UypUQ)

257
>>>suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside.

Prostate lifts?

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (3ZtZW)

258 Maybe he could slap on some mom jeans and ride a girls bike.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 02:56 PM (g1DWB)

259
If Cruz gets too much crap, he may wish to check with Palin about handling the left and the media. She made fools of them with ease.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2013 02:56 PM (SAMxH)

260 I had no idea the NASDAQ also runs on Pixy's hamsters.
Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (Nbo6I)



You know, if we're going to be living in a Clancy world, I would like to request the Rainbow Six ending please.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:56 PM (VtjlW)

261 tasker, I mean this from the bottom of my heart shaped cavity. Fuck. You.
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (VtjlW


*****************

Oh shit--I forgot!

Hey--we use to lie to guys at the bars and tell them we were on the Canadian Olympic basketball team--you could be the---oh wait.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (r2PLg)

262 Ted must be an Hispanic-American, Porto-Rican Joooooo by way of the Great WHITE North...Canada and all their icky-dirty sand oil.


And shit.









Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (jvd3N)

263 angry mob outside WaPo



Max Fisher ‏@Max_Fisher 10m

Wash Post lobby on lockdown with giant pro-Sissi/anti-Morsi protest out front. pic.twitter.com/qsV8Rp4DBJ

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (8sCoq)

264 I'm suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside. Which will then be visible on the outside.
Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB)


Hang out with Hillary! some?

Posted by: Havedash at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (F0WNa)

265 >>>
So he's look effete? You're suggesting body building?

i'm suggesting what I'm suggesting.

Look, Ann Coulter shot him down as a candidate suggesting he's too short. Now, he can't do anything about his height, but I think ann's "too short" snipe is getting at a different question:

Which is, to put it crudely, would a woman want to go to bed with him?

Which is stupid, I grant you, but we are now in a media-saturated very stupid culture in which the mark of a candidate is his resemblance to a Hollywood actor.

And I'm saying Cruz is missing out on some of the Manliness Factor. He'll never be really studly but if he could make efforts in this direction.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (/IWYB)

266 >>>Oh, hey, that's right. Our benighted Preezy is off on his bus tour, speechifying. Has anyone heard anything he's been gaseously burping to his crowds of worshipful followers today? Anything suitably mockworthy?

I tried to listen in, but someone kept saying "WTF is that jagoff saying now?". I finally realize it was MY voice, so Ijust gave up trying to listen.

Posted by: Roy at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (VndSC)

267 193 "there are smart and dumb versions of virtually everything, except Harry
Reid, which only has a dumb version, and that version might also abduct
children."

There is nothing dumb about his complicated plots to traffic underage boys into and out of the District of Columbia.

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (rahQh)

268 Palin lost. She got rich off of it. But she didn't get power. I'm glad she got rich off the leftist hate, but I'd rather she had beat obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (ZPrif)

269 The PERFECT Repub ticket would be Palin for pres and Cruz as VP. It's an anti- waronwomen/racist perfecta!!!

Posted by: DAve at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (OksBo)

270 You know, if we're going to be living in a Clancy world, I would like to request the Rainbow Six ending please.

AtC, could you elaborate. I never got past the first mission because I couldn't keep my dudes alive.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (hO9ad)

271
He's right to drop it now

so it doesn't look like he was forced to cave later?





Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 22, 2013 02:55 PM (VLifP)

--I'm just saying that libtards love to keep up the pretense of being "citizens of the world," yet are harping on a guy who has dual citizenship (with a country extremely friendly to the USA, no less).

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (bufJH)

272 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

I agree with you on Jindal. He's misunderestimated. But he's apparently buds with Perry and I don't think he'd run if Perry runs.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (T0NGe)

273 Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB

My one argument to that would be... Obama.

A twiggier piece of nothing hasn't been President since Wilson. And even Wilson could have snapped Bammy's forearm in an arm wrestling competition.

If you're bookish but engaging, that wins you points. If you're intellectual but plain spoken, that wins you points. If you're a muscley guy with more craftiness than a fox, you're Vladimir Putin. It's all in the presentation.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (4df7R)

274 Soon, even LIV's will be hungering to get rid of TFG's administration, the Congressional Democrats..all of them.

Household income numbers came out today, and they are now officially lower than they were at the end of the Great Recession:


http://cnb.cx/175ikcV


Gallup says reported unemployment is going to be significantly higher, terribly low participation rates notwithstanding, and could go up as high as 8.9%.


http://bit.ly/16dkYLg


No one, even really stupid people, can take much more of this shit.

Posted by: MTF at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (ZuiHO)

275 AtC, could you elaborate. I never got past the first mission because I couldn't keep my dudes alive.


sv_cheats 1
godmode


Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (GQ8sn)

276 Look, I'm dancing around this, so I'll just say it: He's not manly.Sorry, but I had to spell it out.I'm suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside. Which will then be visible on the outside.
Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB)


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He's not electable because he's not "manly"? I'm really trying to hold back my laughter, especially when I look at who this nation has put into office the last two terms.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (q0G29)

277 maybe coulter meant "too short" about rubio but she also shot down Cruz.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (/IWYB)

278 I've got three reasons, off the top of my head, to not vote for Cruz. They are ummmmm, ahhh, ummmm

Posted by: Gov. Rick Perry at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (32Ze2)

279 --According to Demotard Common Sense, both Sammy Sosa and the Pope are equally Hispanic.
Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2013 02:53 PM (bufJH)

Based on the earlier story about "Chelsea", I would now liked to be regarded as a Korean Arab. Anyone who refers to me as African or black is a h8r.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (r+7wo)

280
Ann Coulter humped Christys garbage long after it was apparent to everyone else he was a traitor

she is a fantastic bomb thrower, but I don't take her advice very seriously

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (zOTsN)

281 *Happy Fun Solar, LLC is a citizen of the Bahamas.
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 02:48 PM (VtjlW)


We should just contract out to Tyrell Corporation.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 22, 2013 02:59 PM (hLRSq)

282
@273

So... Is Putin a US citizen? Is he available?

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (t06LC)

283 well I don't mean "rock climb in public."

Look, I'm dancing around this, so I'll just say it: He's not manly.

Sorry, but I had to spell it out.

I'm suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside. Which will then be visible on the outside.



Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB)

He could try that deodorant for "low-T".

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (UypUQ)

284 >>>suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside.

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The first time you murder someone, you're a wreck. You're puking in the car and having nightmares when you sleep.

The second one still fucks you up, but the puking's gone. The nightmares come, but they're not as bad.

By the third murder, you just change into the shirt that you brought with you for that purpose and get on with your day.*




*I wish I remember where I read this recently, because THAT is fucking butch.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (CJjw5)

285 273 Yet,many women find(or at least found) Obama "hot".Jungle Fever.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (9XBK2)

286 >>>There is nothing dumb about his complicated plots to traffic underage boys into and out of the District of Columbia.

his alleged complex sex schemes, you mean.

Let's be fair. They haven't found the bodies. Yet.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (/IWYB)

287 Run Ben Carson for Repub pres. Then all the AA's will have to vote for a white candidate AGAINST the black one.

Posted by: DAve at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (OksBo)

288 Is Cruz any less manly than President mom-jeans?

Really not seeing the not-manly thing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (ZPrif)

289
>>>He's not electable because he's not "manly"? I'm really trying to hold back my laughter, especially when I look at who this nation has put into office the last two terms.

Obama has Inner Strength, like Hillary! has Inner Beauty

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (3ZtZW)

290 Speaking of Canadians, does anyone think Mark Steyn will go ahead and make the run for New Hampshire Senate?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (UypUQ)

291 Ace is right.

If you're not fuckable, you've got no business running for president.

Too many women/gay voters.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (u2a4R)

292
Great thread, ace.

But your comment that "If I were advising him I'd tell him to start doing physical activity like rock-climbing to push him out of his comfort zone and get him to have a less know-it-all manner... like more well-rounded" ignores the fact that it hasn't hurt Obama to be like that.

Cruz will be OK just being himself.

Posted by: truth fairy at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (ue2Nm)

293 Which is stupid, I grant you, but we are now in a media-saturated very
stupid culture in which the mark of a candidate is his resemblance to a
Hollywood actor.


Why don't we just draft Robert Downey jr., then?

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (hO9ad)

294 Wash Post lobby on lockdown with giant pro-Sissi/anti-Morsi protest out front. pic.twitter.com/qsV8Rp4DBJ

I'm pro sissy!

Posted by: B Manning at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (IoTdl)

295 Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (/IWYB)

So Jindal is out. Christie is out.

You seem fatalistic in the extreme. At some point we have to rely on the fact that conservative principles are attractive as hell when properly presented.

Marshall Mcluhan may have been correct, but not about this.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (gqgiP)

296 Ace, I'm not sure "working out" is necessarily a key to being seen as more masculine by the LIVs.

Paul Ryan's the biggest gym beast in Congress, but LIVs heard his kind of high-pitched Beaver voice and Eddie Munster haircut and perceived him as unmanly, almost boyish

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (rahQh)

297 #13 Agree with you 100%. I saw him speaking once and saw that smugness, which unfortunately reminded me of Al Gore.

No doubt Cruz is smart, talented, an excellent debater, and a conservative. On those things I think he scores in the top 1%.

But the likability thing is a little lower on the scale. So he needs to do some physical things, some common guy things.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (GoIUi)

298 Paul and Cruz are the only ones standing up to alBama and Rino's. How much longer until they get the Palin treatment?

Posted by: Big Ben at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (I5Htn)

299 *I wish I remember where I read this recently, because THAT is fucking butch.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (CJjw5)


"Yes, considerably."

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (GQ8sn)

300 Cruz should start using Axe body spray. Bam. Problem solved. We'll have to get an Osprey just to fly around all the dropped panties.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (t06LC)

301 In before the scorpion!

Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (QupBk)

302 It's sage advice like this that has made ace so highly sought after
as a campaign consultant. Instead of primary debates we should have the
contestants compete in feats of strength and daring.

well I don't mean "rock climb in public."

Look, I'm dancing around this, so I'll just say it: He's not manly.

Sorry, but I had to spell it out.

I'm suggesting he begin doing some things privately that will kind of butch him up. On the inside. Which will then be visible on the outside.



Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:51 PM (/IWYB)


You kinda keep describing The Mom Jeans Bicycle Riding One.

I get what you've been saying all along.

Why do we seek perfection in a candidate?

Sure, anyone can use some sound advice. Perhaps if Cruz becomes serious, he will be counseled a bit. He's a smart man.

PR, baby.

PR

Not butch enough? hehe

Who is? Momma Grizzly?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (IXrOn)

303 So the black candidate Obama looked like he could be a panelist for "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" and gets elected but the white candidate has to look like the Marlboro Man?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (gTN+E)

304 And I'm saying Cruz is missing out on some of the Manliness Factor. He'll never be really studly but if he could make efforts in this direction.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (/IWYB)

Ace, I get you, but it's a real shame that society has devolved to this point.

Do you care if your doctor looks like a stud? So why should it matter whether your president looks like one?

Not attacking you, ace. It's unfortunately a valid point, and that sucks.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (r+7wo)

305 Yet,many women find(or at least found) Obama "hot".Jungle Fever.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 03:00 PM (9XBK2)

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Jungle Love...... its driving me mad.... its making me crazy.... crazy

Posted by: steevy miller band at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (nELVU)

306 Listen up, maggots, if your trust fund is less than 8 digits, none of the finer Greek letter organizations will have you.

Posted by: Fritz Blutarsky at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (UzPAd)

307 you know your argument is bogus when you have jpest in your corner

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (zOTsN)

308 And I'm saying Cruz is missing out on some of the Manliness Factor.

So why are Dem running Janet Reno then?

Posted by: dogfish at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (NuPNl)

309 >>>she is a fantastic bomb thrower, but I don't take her advice very seriously

i think you should.

no political discussion can simply ignore the FACT that the american public is dumb, shallow, disengaged, uninformed, and being bred and conditioned down to the level of animals in a rescue shelter.

if you say "superficial things don't matter," I will ask you where exactly you've been living for the past 20 years, and did you happen to watch any of their local programming?


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (/IWYB)

310 So Cruz needs to wear flannel shirts and chop brush on a ranch? That worked so well for us last time.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (ZWvOb)

311 Speaking of Canadians, does anyone think Mark Steyn will go ahead and make the run for New Hampshire Senate?


Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (UypUQ)


Hope he does. I like his writing style. Brutal takedowns of libs.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (GQ8sn)

312 From the Daily Beast a few days ago:

Ted Cruz's college roommates say he used to wander women's dorm area in a paisley bathrobe, describe him as "creepy"

Bonus: Oprah's penis dress:

http://tinyurl.com/kksteaf

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (XUKZU)

313 Palin lost. She got rich off of it. But she didn't get power. I'm glad she got rich off the leftist hate, but I'd rather she had beat obama.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (ZPrif)

Um, she was the veep on the ticket.

And, I'll say it: What would a president McCain have been like? I shudder to even contemplate the prospect.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (r+7wo)

314 Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside

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WTF happened to Cleopatra??????

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (nELVU)

315 We need more senators like Cruz and Paul in the senate. People who stand on principle. I for one hope they both remain there with walker as the nominee, but id happily support either. Who cares if they don't play we'll with others. We need less of that anyway.

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (ZFXqT)

316 Honestly, by Ace's standards, none of the GOP candidates have a chance.

Too boyish or nerdy - Cruz, Rand, Jindal, Walker, Ryan, maybe Rubio

Christie is in his own category of physical or perception problems

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (rahQh)

317
273 -

Rules are different from Dems and Repubs. Always have been, always will be.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (TOk1P)

318 Paul Ryan's the biggest gym beast in Congress, but LIVs heard his kind of high-pitched Beaver voice and Eddie Munster haircut and perceived him as unmanly, almost boyish
Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (rahQh)


He's also kinda got that built in "stammer" (or is it a drawl) that the soetoro's use to their advantage.

I throw up my hands.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (IXrOn)

319 Speaking of Canadians, does anyone think Mark Steyn will go ahead and make the run for New Hampshire Senate?
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (UypUQ)


Personally, I doubt it. I'd love it, but I don't think he will. There's enough difference between being a politician and being a pundit that it's hard to give up the latter to become teh former. Could you see Joe "I didn't kill that girl in my office, really!" Scarborough running for Congress again?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (4df7R)

320 FBN is hinting NASDAQ issue is not *accidental* SEC is investigating (no surprise), and FBI is 'involved'.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (hO9ad)

321
@303

Good thinking. Is the Malboro man a citizen? Alive? Available?

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (t06LC)

322 Do you not recognize the Journolist when you see it on operation, Cruz, Paul and Lee, who else is holding the fort,

Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (Jsiw/)

323 AtC, could you elaborate. I never got past the first mission because I couldn't keep my dudes alive.
Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (hO9ad)



I meant the book. You know, where Clark blows up the envirotards' base in the Amazon and then strips them naked and leaves them there.


God, I love that book.


Also, yeah, I don't play the Rainbow Six games. At some point, my FPS play will start a singularity due to the suck.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (VtjlW)

324 Judging by how many low-T adverts I see, America is awash in atrophied ball-sacks and testosterone-laced deodorant.

Hopefully we can flush all the testosterone-laced products down the toilet with all the birth control pills and let them fight it out in a battle of the hormones. I predict more man-boobs and lady-mustaches in our future.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (ZPrif)

325 If you're not fuckable, you've got no business running for president.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (u2a4R)

Good.

So you agree that your candidate, Hillary Clinton, will fail.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (gqgiP)

326 no political discussion can simply ignore the FACT
that the american public is dumb, shallow, disengaged, uninformed, and
being bred and conditioned down to the level of animals in a rescue
shelter.

if you say "superficial things don't matter," I will ask
you where exactly you've been living for the past 20 years, and did you
happen to watch any of their local programming?




Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (/IWYB)


Holy crap, ace is saying we should run Donald Trump!
*runs*

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (GQ8sn)

327 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 02:58 PM (4df7R)

Inexplicably, my fair twin, it appears a lot of people find the current occupier of the Oval Office to be muy hot. Or so we are told.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (r+7wo)

328 Link to NRO article is worth the read. Short.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (aDwsi)

329 ace is right. It's all about presentation, and Cruz looks like a ninny college prof.

Yes, we currently half a ninny supposed college prof as a president, but like everything, his race gets him a pass. He fill out NCAA brackets and knows rappers, so it's manly enough for the LIVs and MSM.

As the media informs us, all Republicans are either dumb, out-of-touch, or evil. Cruz isn't dumb, and giving him some more macho elements makes him seem less Ivory Tower. So make them go all in on evil.

Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (iEoiA)

330 Paul Ryan's the biggest gym beast in Congress, but LIVs heard his kind of high-pitched Beaver voice and Eddie Munster haircut and perceived him as unmanly, almost boyish

To be realistic they'll do that with any conservative.
They'd do it with Walker the-Eddie Munster. thing too They had pictures of Obama as "hunk" in the ocean and Lord knows he's about as far from manly as one could get.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (gTN+E)

331 You know, if we're going to be living in a Clancy world, I would like to request the Rainbow Six ending please.

AtC, could you elaborate. I never got past the first mission because I couldn't keep my dudes alive.


AtC's talking about the book. In it the whack-job environmentalists that were trying to kill everyone off for Gaia's sake were released naked into the Jungle with no supplies. None of them made it out alive.

Posted by: B Manning at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (J79eW)

332 Liberals' Obsession with Ted Cruz Rooted In Anger over His EFFECTIVITY!

The class-conscious Democrat Party Leftists promoting violent class warfare propagandize: "Betrayal" of His Class

Whether alone or in good company, Ted Cruz speaks truth to power, thriving in constitutional integrity.

And the truth hurts liars on both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (MhA4j)

333 The "Hispanic" from Argentina via Madrid does not want to be lumped in with the 5'3" Bolivian gardener or the coal Black Haitian.


Well put, but the Haitian is a frog not Hispanic.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (wR+pz)

334 Every single time a candidate pretends to be something they aren't it fails miserably as many have pointed out. I do think Cruz needs to lose a little of the "I'm smarter than you" smirk but his ability to push his values in a fearless way IS his shtick and he's got the callouses to prove it.

I would advise him to be a bit more humble or at least look like he's a bit more humble but as always dance with the date what brung ya.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (g1DWB)

335 And, I'll say it: What would a president McCain have been like? I shudder to even contemplate the prospect.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (r+7wo)



I think it'd have been better than Obama's first term, but then we'd be dealing with Obama's first term NOW. (After Pres McCain sold out conservatives on various issues)

If our nation can survive Obama, better to get it over with.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (sGtp+)

336 Could you see Joe "I didn't kill that girl in my office, really!" Scarborough running for Congress again?

He is literally on the air begging Jeb to run, win and appoint him to something....anything.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (OWjjx)

337 > He's not electable because he's not "manly"? I'm really trying to hold
back my laughter, especially when I look at who this nation has put into
office the last two terms.

He could have had a used condom hanging out of his ass and been wearing the biological pearl necklace and he'd have been elected. Skin color uber alles.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (ZWvOb)

338 323 Oh yeah,that was a good one.The crocs ,pirahna snakes,insects etc would have fed well.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (9XBK2)

339 237 I had no idea the NASDAQ also runs on Pixy's hamsters.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 02:52 PM (Nbo6I)

They don't we're still up. Now getting a trade here?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (wR+pz)

340 http://tinyurl.com/ky3hdku
Gov. Perry Statement on Dept. of Justice Lawsuits


Gov. Rick Perry today issued the following statement on the most
recent attack on Texas' voting laws by the U.S. Department of Justice:
"The
filing of endless litigation in an effort to obstruct the will of the
people of Texas is what we have come to expect from Attorney General
Eric Holder and President Obama. We will continue to defend the
integrity of our elections against this administration's blatant
disregard for the 10th Amendment."

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (6xhLc)

341 310 So Cruz needs to wear flannel shirts and chop brush on a ranch? That worked so well for us last time.

Flannel shirts and chopping brush won two elections.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (u2a4R)

342

We can PR him to

Hispanic Guru.

or, in reference to his belly;

Hispanic Buddha.

The wisdom veil could cover up all that dirty non-sports-like body and mannerisms.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:06 PM (IXrOn)

343
>>>Honestly, by Ace's standards, none of the GOP candidates have a chance.

Thats not Ace's fault.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 03:07 PM (3ZtZW)

344 Re callouses on his hands. Is it ok if they come from slapping Chris Matthews around?
Responding to Dana Millbank:
My understanding is that self described conservates are significantly better and more widely read than self described liberals or progressives.
Conservatives also have a much firmer grasp of liberal thinking than vice versa.

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 22, 2013 03:07 PM (Y85ak)

345 Ted Cruz is short? He doesn't seem short here...

http://moonbattery.com/mike-lee_rand-paul_ted-cruz.jpg

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2013 03:07 PM (UypUQ)

346
Cruz does not need progs to vote for him. He needs pubs, independents, and libertarians. Romney lost not because he lacked calluses, but because he had no passion, did not express conservatism with passion, laid off on points of weakness like Benghazi, and fell asleep in two debates.

If Cruz brings his passion to the election, that is manly

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 03:07 PM (zOTsN)

347 If you're not fuckable, you've got no business running for president.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:01 PM (u2a4R)


Forget it......Palin is still not running and is still not winning.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 22, 2013 03:07 PM (OWjjx)

348 serious cat,

she might have dismissed Marco Rubio as short, and then dismissed Cruz for unstated reasons, and then I got them confused.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 03:08 PM (/IWYB)

349 Good thinking. Is the Malboro man a citizen? Alive? Available?

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (t06LC)

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Deceased. Passed from lung cancer.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 03:08 PM (nELVU)

350 WTF happened to Cleopatra??????
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (nELVU)

As a female transracial transera-er, I reserve the right to change my mind. It's all about how I feeeel, you see, and right now I feel like a Korean Arab.

Bigot.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:08 PM (r+7wo)

351 idiot alert, from Yahoo news about an hour ago (first two paragraphs):

Calling higher education an "economic imperative," President Barack
Obama is pushing for an ambitious new government rating system for
colleges that would judge schools on affordability and performance and
ultimately determine how federal financial aid is distributed.
The
rating system, which the president wants implemented before the 2015
school year, would evaluate colleges on several criteria, including
average tuition and student loan debt, graduation rates, and the average
earning of graduates. Obama says he will ask Congress to link the new
rating system to the way federal financial aid is disbursed, with
students attending highly-rated schools receiving larger grants and more
affordable student loans.
[Average earnings of graduates? I suspect all liberal arts schools like Bennington College would be squashed.]

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (bJm7W)

352 Yet,many women find(or at least found) Obama "hot".Jungle Fever.

REALLY? I don't know any women who voted for Obama who mentioned or even implied he was "hot".
They were all taken with his supposed great intellect, his ability to give a great speech, his mellifluous voice and that he was going to be great racial healer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (gTN+E)

353
Forget it......Palin is still not running and is still not winning.




This. We tried the most fuckable we had. All we got for our efforts was a L and a series of political inspired pron films. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (t06LC)

354 My one argument to that would be... Obama.



A twiggier piece of nothing hasn't been President since Wilson. And
even Wilson could have snapped Bammy's forearm in an arm wrestling
competition.


I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (B/VB5)

355 Note, Steve Rattner, who paid 10 million in fines, to avoid further legal encumbrances is one of his critics.

Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (Jsiw/)

356 The RNC should put those debates on pay per view. You know they're going to have them even if it makes the republican candidates look bad. So why not make money on them. They were very entertaining last time around, if they are all going to behave like they are at a UFC match, someone ought to make some big bucks off of the spectacle. If Trump is included you can be sure you'll get your money's worth.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (/b8+5)

357 Calling higher education an "economic imperative," President Barack

Obama is pushing for an ambitious new government rating system for

colleges that would judge schools on affordability and performance and

ultimately determine how federal financial aid is distributed.



It's so obvious.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 03:10 PM (GQ8sn)

358 352 Oh,I remember it.Magazine articles about him and Mooch "heating up the bedroom".

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 03:10 PM (9XBK2)

359 His "class" feels betrayed as they always do when someone non-white or not quite white repudiates their values.

"We let you people in our schools and this is how you treat us?" See: Clarence Thomas.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:10 PM (Tnlh/)

360
@349

Damn. Predictable. Clint's still kickin right?
Eastwood/Chair 2016

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:10 PM (t06LC)

361 And, I'll say it: What would a president McCain have been like? I shudder to even contemplate the prospect.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (r+7wo)


I
think it'd have been better than Obama's first term, but then we'd be
dealing with Obama's first term NOW. (After Pres McCain sold out
conservatives on various issues)

***

Interesting idea. If McCain had been elected, I would have thought that he stunk because I would have no Obama administration to compare him with. I knew that Obama would be terrible but I had no idea of how really terrible he was going to be.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 03:10 PM (XUKZU)

362 Conservatives also have a much firmer grasp of liberal thinking than vice versa.

Posted by: Northernlurker
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That would be because most conservative's thinking is based upon reality, experience, and an understanding of human nature rather than political/philosophical theory and wishful thinking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (aDwsi)

363 And I'm saying Cruz is missing out on some of the Manliness Factor.
He'll never be really studly but if he could make efforts in this
direction.


Yeah, rock climbing would probably be the first thing a guy should do to become more manly. Then when you get to the top of the mountain you should crack open a PBR with one hand and crank up some dubstep, but in an ironic way, not in a way that would make people think you were really into dubstep. Also, you should do all of this with a manly type of scruffy beard and maybe a tattoo of a bent nail or a cowboy boot. Totally masculine you guys.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (+lsX1)

364 You know what people will follow? LEADERS

And now, the hair metal parable....

The general populace was listening to hair metal before Nirvana showed up and made them all look like clowns overnight. In an instant, everything changed. This is the kind of shift that is needed for us to win...(Not dressing up Cobain in frilly spandex and eyeliner to make him appeal to the midwest states)

Screw the old way. The left owns the culture, but we own the ideas. And people generally live a libertarian existence. (i.e. mind your f-ing business about what I do in my life)

In order to breakthrough we have to have the balls to be real and speak plainly. That will resonate

Posted by: AtlasMugged at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (URn6H)

365 All we got for our efforts was a L and a series of political inspired pron films. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (t06LC)


Lisa Ann looked nothing like Palin.
Or so I've heard.

Posted by: EC at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (GQ8sn)

366 "no political discussion can simply ignore the FACT that the american public is dumb, shallow, disengaged, uninformed, and being bred and conditioned down to the level of animals in a rescue shelter."

__________________

Sometimes I do wonder how the lights stay on this country given the runaway idiocy among the general public.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (HDgX3)

367 Speaking of Canada. http://youtu.be/QAKg4z8z81c

Posted by: Winkish Worg at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (dvRYt)

368 Inexplicably, my fair twin, it appears a lot of people find the current occupier of the Oval Office to be muy hot. Or so we are told.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:04 PM (r+7wo)


I will never understand it. Not if I live to be a thousand years old.

*Ponders changing race/ethnicity to Anglo-Saxon Hobbit*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (4df7R)

369 Yet,many women find(or at least found) Obama "hot".Jungle Fever.

REALLY? I don't know any women who voted for Obama who mentioned or even implied he was "hot".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (gTN+E)

This may come from the same people that inform us of Michelle Obama's preternatural beauty.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (r+7wo)

370 If only he wore mom's jeans. And frequented gay bars when he was younger. And had a mentor/biological dad was a bi-sexual pervert who bragged about what an awesome cocksucker he was. And dated composite girlfriends. Then he'd have a chance

Posted by: Black Peruvian at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (qxcKC)

371 I can do paper towels and I can do small-government conservatism.

Posted by: The Brawny Man at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (8ZskC)

372 "Which is why hispanic is an ethnicity and "white" or "black" are race categories."

Absolute rubbish.

I have nothing in common with Cubans, Venezuelan,Peruvians, Argentinians, Mexicans or even Spaniards; other than my my mother speaks Spanish. Are Irish, Welch, Scots, and English the same ethnicity?

It's nothing more than a statistical tool to create a fake ethnicity,so the left can have another group if victim pets. To top off the stupidity most of society treat it like a racial designation.

Posted by: BatBoy at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (WRjK1)

373
I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.

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Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Edith Bunker at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (tVWQB)

374 I do think Cruz needs to lose a little of the "I'm smarter than you" smirk but his ability to push his values in a fearless way IS his shtick and he's got the callouses to prove it. I would advise him to be a bit more humble or at least look like he's a bit more humble but as always dance with the date what brung ya.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 03:05 PM (g1DWB)

Don't know why but I don't see that attitude. Also don't think that kind of smirk does well in front of the Supremes which Cruz had great success. And if Cruz doesn't look manly then Joseph McCarthy didn't look manly either 'cause that's who Cruz looks like.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (m2CN7)

375

Oh. Perry.
forgot

/nm

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (IXrOn)

376 361 That was exactly what I was thinking.We would have bitched and moaned with no idea the huge bullet dodged.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (9XBK2)

377 Remember that stupid Der Spiegel article about Obama curling "70 kilo" dumbbells in the hotel gym? I still laugh about that one.

Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:12 PM (iEoiA)

378 Screw the old way. The left owns the culture, but we own the ideas. And people generally live a libertarian existence. (i.e. mind your f-ing business about what I do in my life)

In order to breakthrough we have to have the balls to be real and speak plainly. That will resonate
Posted by: AtlasMugged at August 22, 2013 03:11 PM (URn6H)

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I don't know. I don't think most people live a libertarian life anymore. Most people want and expect he govt to do everything for them.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (HDgX3)

379
>>>>What would a president McCain have been like?

He'd of been like Isaac from The Love Boat. Except crazy and bombing everything.

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (3ZtZW)

380
@365

Lisa Ann looked nothing like Palin.
Or so I've heard.

Yeah, but dem boobies! Or so I've se--- heard.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (t06LC)

381
Ace wrote: "You know, this style of analysis -- through the prism of class, class loyalty, class privilege -- is rising and yet it still isn't quite risen."

Somebody should revisit the themes of Paul Fussell's book "Class" to incorporate the shifts in class boundaries, tastes, and markers that have taken place since the early 80s when it was written. Whereas Fussell segmented American classes into Top Out-Of Sight, Upper, Upper Middle, Middle, High Prole, Mid-Prole, Low-Prole, Destitute, and Bottom-Out-Of-Sight (I'll ignore his rather silly "X" category), the rise of the "New Class" / "Bobo" / "SWPL" class merits discussion in terms of the old class framework, its relation to the other classes, and its outsized influence on culture and politics today.

David Brooks's "Bobos in Paradise," Charles Murray's "Coming Apart," and the book / website "Stuff White People Like" have all explored small areas of those themes in recent years, but I'd like to see a more comprehensive analysis, with a focus on how these class loyalties, tastes, shibboleths, and markers influence political preferences and hates.

The "Lion of the Blogosphere" blog (by the guy who formerly wrote "Half Sigma")does some good work on this stuff from time to time, and the "Chateau Heartiste" blog has a very good post on "Prole vs. SWPL" tastes based on a post at Half Sigma. Ace, if you ever considered writing a book, this project could be right up your alley.

Posted by: Alex at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (/yzYn)

382 Forget it......Palin is still not running and is still not winning.

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Palin lost me when she bombed SF's Castro district to kill homos.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (XUKZU)

383 WTF happened to Cleopatra??????

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 03:03 PM (nELVU)

She started fucking a wop. Then it was all over.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (wR+pz)

384 I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (B/VB5)


To this day I have trouble remembering that Obammy has a black half. I just don't see it when I look at him. The only reason it even enters into my consciousness is because I'm so often called a racist for thinking he's dumber than a bag of hammer-shaped pieces of cheese.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (4df7R)

385

The problem isn't the Left character-assassinating and smearing Ted Cruz; the problem is that We're Not Doing It Too To Them.

This is the game. These are the friggin rules: Destroy or be destroyed.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (QKR4v)

386 Saying McCain would be just as bad is retarded.
The court appointments, if nothing else, would have been vastly superior.
You guys do know that Obama is filling the courts with hard-left ideologues, right? Hundreds of the most let-wing judges in America are being appointed at all levels of the judiciary.

McCain would have put up many squishes and moderates. But being the most left-wing possible applicant would not have been a boost. And McCain would have been forced to appoint some actual right-wingers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (ZPrif)

387 330. Bbbbbut those blue eyes...

Looks aside, I'm not campaigning for a so-called fiscal conservative politician who abandons his principles in order to save his principles (betrayal of himself and everyone/everything), and dumps his Road Map for a ride on Obamalite's coat-tails to electable big fail.

GOP Young Guns, shoot their constituents in the face, Cheney precedence.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (MhA4j)

388 This. We tried the most fuckable we had. All we got for our efforts was a L and a series of political inspired pron films. Or so I've heard.

I have no crush on Palin and, frankly, don't think much of her as a politician. (Now, as a capitalist, I have a fair amount of respect). But, I can not assess all of 2008 on her. She was probably a wash, conservatives who were not thrilled with McCain could justify showing up because of Palin. On the otherhand, she did little to help with the indpendents/unaffilated voters needed. And, look, I'm not sure anyone in the 2008 field could have overcome A) Bush fatigue B) the media and C) the declining economy.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (OWjjx)

389 "he seems overly pious in his announcements, like Eddie Haskell or something. And he sort of smiles like he Knows Better Than His Opponent. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, per se, but he does.... he does sort of broadcast his ideological and intellectual nature, which are twin electoral turn-offs.

I could easily forgive that, except for the fact that I'm not sure the public would."

I won't argue with you, but I have a one word response: Obama. The public seemed to forgive him of that sin (and even turn it into a virtue) pretty quickly.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (ELdpj)

390 365 "Lisa Ann looked nothing like Palin. Or so I've heard."

She sounds even less like her, a friend told me.

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (rahQh)

391 I thought the pres wanted his next job to be head of the UN but now with this college speech I'm wondering if Big Sis' gig is making him think college pres is better than un head for now.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (/b8+5)

392 I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.

I think that's bs and well as sounding racist

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (gTN+E)

393 By virture of living in Texas, Cruz is automatically manly. Even our homos are manly.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (m2CN7)

394 If Cruz brings his passion to the election, that is manly
Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 03:07 PM (zOTsN)


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Agree.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (q0G29)

395
I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.
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Less than half. More like an eighth, from what I've heard. The missing chunk from there is apparently Arab.

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (UWFpX)

396 Yep. They destroy us and we bitch and moan and ask them to please stop.
Hint: They won't.

It's eat or be eaten. Destroy or be destroyed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (ZPrif)

397 I'm not sure anyone in the 2008 field could have overcome A) Bush fatigue B) the media and C) the declining economy.

And D) McCain suspending his campaign and thus looking unserious.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (B/VB5)

398 Nood up!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (b1/nQ)

399 386 huge error, presuming McCain as either reliable or logical

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (MhA4j)

400 Boy this thread is all over the place, ace save put a new one up.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (wR+pz)

401 Rock climbing is the secret to manly essence. If you live in NYC and have only TV to connect you to the real, natural world. Rock climbing is Madison Ave. manly.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (ZshNr)

402 alex,

not for me as far as writing, I don't think, but I'll check out some of those titles/blogs.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (/IWYB)

403 by the by, saw this at "truth out dot" whatever...

"President Obama, Commute Chelsea (Formerly Known as Bradley) Manning's Sentence to Time Served"


Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (bJm7W)

404
Or the leftdoesnt want tohand over this country to asuccessful demagogue and opportunist, who doesnt believe a word he is saying, but says it anyway to advance his career.

You guys never wonder why politicians (Rubiobeing the latest example)"betray" you as soon as they try to actually govern do you? Could it be because your 19th century notions of government and policiesare unworkable in the 21st century?

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (+sSYr)

405 Ironically, if we're talking about manliness and getting excited in the canal zone:

Mitt Romney beat Obama handily among white women.

I got news for ya - it wasn't Obama's "masculinity" that got him his votes, especially in 2012

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (rahQh)

406 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (ZPrif)

Oh, I can't imagine that McCain could be as bad as Obama even if he tried, but I still think he would have been a disaster.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (r+7wo)

407 >>Don't know why but I don't see that attitude. Also don't think that kind of smirk does well in front of the Supremes which Cruz had great success. And if Cruz doesn't look manly then Joseph McCarthy didn't look manly either 'cause that's who Cruz looks like.


Well you've seen him a lot more than I but thats the vibe I get from him. Maybe he wears better over time.

Don't get me wrong, I like him quite a bit and hope he gets to play on an even bigger stage and as I said I don't think he needs to be anything other than what he is. My nit is pretty small in the grand scheme.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (g1DWB)

408 Rock climbing is code for buttsex, right?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (ZPrif)

409 Cruz can best serve conservatism by staying in the senate for many years. He may be able to recruit and endorse future conservative senators. That's where I hope he stays. I hope he doesn't lose influence on a failed run for the WH but increases it by supporting the next president who must somehow acknowledge Cruz support as being pivotal. He may not be as manly as ace or the public wants for the executive side but his ability and nature are perfectly suited for the legislative side.

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (WY3bD)

410
401 Rock climbing is the secret to manly essence. If you live in NYC and have only TV to connect you to the real, natural world. Rock climbing is Madison Ave. manly.



True. Fucking bears with mountain lion condoms is real man manly.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (t06LC)

411 304 And I'm saying Cruz is missing out on some of the Manliness Factor. He'll never be really studly but if he could make efforts in this direction.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:57 PM (/IWYB)

Ace, I get you, but it's a real shame that society has devolved to this point.

Do you care if your doctor looks like a stud? So why should it matter whether your president looks like one?

Not attacking you, ace. It's unfortunately a valid point, and that sucks.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:02 PM (r+7wo)


Of course ace doesn't care about how his doctor looks. Just so long as whatever treatment he is receiving was nt developed by a chubby girl.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (WBUS9)

412 The problem isn't the Left character-assassinating and smearing Ted Cruz; the problem is that We're Not Doing It Too To Them. This is the game. These are the friggin rules: Destroy or be destroyed.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (QKR4v)

How about the right (ace) not trying to convince people of his negative perceptions.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (m2CN7)

413 And Eddie Haskell didn't sound "pious", He never mentioned God; He sounded smarmy and unctuous, but I suppose you mean he gave the impression of being a polite, boy scout type.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (gTN+E)

414 You guys never wonder why politicians (Rubiobeing the latest example)"betray" you as soon as they try to actually govern do you? Could it be because your 19th century notions of government and policiesare unworkable in the 21st century?
Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (+sSYr)

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I know right? Freedom, limited govt, capitalism, is so 19th century and totally doesn't work in the 21st. What we need is communism since that has been proven to work each and every time it's been tried.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:17 PM (HDgX3)

415 Conservative women won't vote for a guy just cause he's attractive, they need something more than the liberals, they need a brain. Brains are very sexy to some women, very sexy.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:17 PM (/b8+5)

416 And D) McCain suspending his campaign and thus looking unserious.

Ties into C but yea, it had the look of a bad gimmick. And then to go back and do........nothing......made McCain look utterly incompetent when "competency" was one of his so-called selling points.

Oh Gawd, please don't get me on a rant about the errors of the 2008 McCain campaign....we will be here all afternoon.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 22, 2013 03:18 PM (OWjjx)

417 Okay. Second look at Perry.

Serious you guys.

Governor of Texas is not a bad place to run a campaign from.

Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2013 03:18 PM (W6bkf)

418 Of all the people I know who are athletic/outdoorsy, about 1% are into rock climbing. It's not that fun.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 22, 2013 03:18 PM (ZshNr)

419 Also, nobody under 40 knows who Eddie Haskell is.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:18 PM (ZPrif)

420
To this day I have trouble remembering that Obammy has a black half. I just don't see it when I look at him. The only reason it even enters into my consciousness is because I'm so often called a racist for thinking he's dumber than a bag of hammer-shaped pieces of cheese. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (4df7R)
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He doesn't. Apparently a look at his geneology turned up the fact that our first "Black" president is more Arab than Black.

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:18 PM (UWFpX)

421 Ace isn't under 40. If you're under 40 google it. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (gTN+E)

422
Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (+sSYr)


And we should pay attention to your feeble analysis because...?

Go back to your philosophy homework, sweetie.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (4df7R)

423 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:13 PM (ZPrif)

I agree that for the duration of 1 (2?) presidential term, McCain wouldn't be as bad as Obama - but his squishy ways would prime the nation for a Democratic president, much in the same way that Bush's terms did.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (oY6Yp)

424 I would bet money that not another poster here thought that Cruz was not manly prior to ace sharing his perception.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (m2CN7)

425 Only dudes I've know into rock climbing were progtard grad students. Lot of universities have rock climbing walls in their giganto, luxury resort gyms.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (ZPrif)

426 Forget it......Palin is still not running and is still not winning.

***

Palin lost me when she bombed SF's Castro district to kill homos.
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Uptwinkes!

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (hO9ad)

427 I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.

I think that's bs and well as sounding racist
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (gTN+E)

If I may express some disagreement, a lot of white women obviously find black men intriguing and exotic, and I think the stereotype about black men mentioned above plays a large part.

Plus I think being a black male comes with a default level of coolness/masculinity, too. It takes a lot for a black guy to appear to be a dork (although Obama manages it quite nicely, might be his white half, lol), whereas there are lots of white looking dorks running around.

I have my racial hierarchy of baseline coolness/dorkiness in my head. I'll keep it to myself for now.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (r+7wo)

428 397 I'm not sure anyone in the 2008 field could have overcome A) Bush fatigue B) the media and C) the declining economy.

And D) McCain suspending his campaign and thus looking unserious.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2013 03:15 PM (B/VB5)

_________

To the average voter I don't think that mattered. It was one of those events that the chattering classes freaked out over, but to the LIV/undecided voter it wasn't even a blip on the radar.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (HDgX3)

429 Of course ace doesn't care about how his doctor looks. Just so long as whatever treatment he is receiving was nt developed by a chubby girl.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 22, 2013 03:16 PM (WBUS9)


Thread F'ing winner. If you had Buzzion at post #411, go to the pay window and collect your money.

Posted by: AOSHQ Para Mutual Manager at August 22, 2013 03:20 PM (OWjjx)

430 Like the old saying goes, if you're catching a lot of flak you must be over target.same reason why they went after Sarah Palin like they did. Go get 'em, Senator Cruz.

Posted by: The Great White Shank at August 22, 2013 03:20 PM (BLJXz)

431 I mean *perceived* coolness or dorkiness.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:20 PM (r+7wo)

432 Well then Jason Bateman's every other role in the early 80s,

Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 22, 2013 03:20 PM (Jsiw/)

433 Indeed, polynikes.

My only negative impression of Cruz prior to Ace deeming him a beta male was that I wasn't sure if the Tea Party stuff was genuine during the primaries.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2013 03:20 PM (ELdpj)

434 Dated reference is dated reference.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:20 PM (ZPrif)

435 Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (UWFpX)

Where does this Obama's dad was Arab thing come from? Have you seen pics of his dad? He makes me look like an albino Irish redhead.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:21 PM (r+7wo)

436 419 Also, nobody under 40 knows who Eddie Haskell is.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 03:18 PM (ZPrif)

_______

There are these things on TV called reruns.....

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:21 PM (HDgX3)

437 415 Conservative women won't vote for a guy just cause he's attractive, they need something more than the liberals, they need a brain. Brains are very sexy to some women, very sexy.

This is what unfortunate looking guys like to tell themselves.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:21 PM (u2a4R)

438 I know right? Freedom, limited govt, capitalism, is so 19th century and totally doesn't work in the 21st. What we need is communism since that has been proven to work each and every time it's been tried.Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:17 PM (HDgX3) come on. you know quite well that thats a straw man. at most the progressive left advocates mixed economies these days. nobody wants the government to run everything.

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:22 PM (+sSYr)

439 Palin lost me when she bombed SF's Castro district to kill homos.

And we 1.7 million people, on an island with no sustainable argriculture and restrictive gun laws that limits our access to weapons...on an island with very easy to find bridges that, if destroyed, would literally lock us into this island to starve...will fight you with our environmentally friendly Starbuck cups!
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Posted by: Some Lefty Writer Who Has No Knowledge of Anything at August 22, 2013 03:22 PM (OWjjx)

440 Eddie Haskell was the smart-mouthed best-friend of Wally Cleaver. The character, played in the original series by Ken Osmond, has become a cultural reference, recognized as an archetype for insincere sycophants. Ward Cleaver once remarked that "[Eddie] is so polite, it's almost un-American".
http://tinyurl.com/2h7yll

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:22 PM (/b8+5)

441
Where does this Obama's dad was Arab thing come from? Have you seen pics of his dad? He makes me look like an albino Irish redhead.Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:21 PM (r+7wo)
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Supposedly some curious people have backtracked his geneology.

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:23 PM (UWFpX)

442 Cruz certainly isn't "unfortunate looking". He's a fairly average looking man.

Romney was far more attractive than Obama, and clearly that didn't matter.

Women are capable of voting for someone who isn't a dreamboat. Jeesh.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2013 03:23 PM (ELdpj)

443 intriguing and exotic,

Yes, that. It doesn't necessarily mean that in his particular case it translated to "I"d sure like to have sex with him" with a lot of white women. He was perceived as cool and caring and they liked his voice.
I'm speaking of women in their 40's and 50's. maybe younger women did the whole sexual attraction bit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:24 PM (gTN+E)

444 As well, considering Palin's refusal to kick the senile old bastard in the nuts, I could see too many offsloughings of his campaign getting together to sabotage Cruz.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 22, 2013 02:37 PM (zF6Iw)

It seem to me that the refusal was a bit of loyalty on her part. Sure McCain didn't deserve it, but it told me a lot about her (high) character.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:24 PM (Tnlh/)

445 I would bet money that not another poster here thought that Cruz was not manly prior to ace sharing his perception.
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:19 PM (m2CN7)



lulz

don't insult the women's intelligence, here

we have the radar*

at least I do

But, I'm not looking for manly man. I'm looking for Character & Brains.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:25 PM (IXrOn)

446 Well the canadians are trying to hand onto him so he has a ways to go with this American citizenship only thing.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:25 PM (/b8+5)

447 nobody wants the government to run everything.
Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:22 PM (+sSYr)


Which is why NYC did not try to regulate soft drinks and salt consumption with hamhanded gov't regulations.

Wait, that sounds off.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:25 PM (oY6Yp)

448 Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:21 PM (u2a4R)


I hate to agree with caustic, but it is true that non-airhead women can find brains really attractive. As long as said brain is not wrapped up in a horrifically grotesque exterior.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:25 PM (r+7wo)

449 Nasdaq has somewhat of a pulse. Apple and Amazon have started trading.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:26 PM (/b8+5)

450 Didn't occur to me. although I do think he often goes the impression that he thinks he's more intelligent than other people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:26 PM (gTN+E)

451 It seem to me that the refusal was a bit of loyalty on her part. Sure McCain didn't deserve it, but it told me a lot about her (high) character.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:24 PM (Tnlh/)


Biggest regret of my McCain vote.

"You lost and now you're letting your minions savage Palin, your veep candidate? Where's your honor? Would you do that to a fellow soldier?"

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:27 PM (sGtp+)

452 "Romney was far more attractive than Obama, and clearly that didn't matter. Women are capable of voting for someone who isn't a dreamboat. Jeesh."

Romney WAS far more attractive to the type of women who are married - and he won them handily.

Obama was more attractive to minority and young, single low income women.

Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 03:27 PM (u2a4R)

453 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:25 PM (IXrOn)

insult what? Exactly what did your radar pick up ? Why was this never mentioned on the dozens of other threads about Cruz? This is ace's perception and his sycophants are eager to join him.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:28 PM (m2CN7)

454 come on. you know quite well that thats a straw man. at most the progressive left advocates mixed economies these days. nobody wants the government to run everything.
Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:22 PM (+sSYr)

_______

True. Not everything. Just education, health care, banks, auto industry, energy. But aside from that, yeah it's all about capitalism on the left.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:28 PM (HDgX3)

455 Maybe if he switched to Irish Spring:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSUPEejzIUc

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 03:28 PM (aDwsi)

456 450
Didn't occur to me. although I do think he often goes the impression that he thinks he's more intelligent than other people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:26 PM (gTN+E)
Don't you think that about yourself? I mean look at the general population, the statistics say SAT scores are down and we are falling in our educational rankings among other countries. A college degree is the HS degree my grandma got. We could go on and on prolly.

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:29 PM (/b8+5)

457 Apple and Amazon have started trading.


Posted by: caustic
---------------

Which way?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 03:30 PM (aDwsi)

458 "Obama was more attractive to minority and young, single low income women. "

No, objectively Obama is not an attractive man. He's not hideous, despite the ears, but he's not physically attractive. Romney is.

I can name a hundred attractive lefties, but Obama isn't one of him.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2013 03:31 PM (ELdpj)

459 "Apple and Amazon have started trading."

THANK GOD!!

I was waiting on pins and needles to hear the news. Now I can breathe again.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:31 PM (HDgX3)

460 This is hardly the first time anyone has said this about Cruz. Even in his primary run it was mentioned.

Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:31 PM (iEoiA)

461 I have usually seen clips of Cruz speaking to people on the Senate floor so his thinking he's brighter than a lot of them is probably justified.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:32 PM (gTN+E)

462 This is hardly the first time anyone has said this about Cruz. Even in his primary run it was mentioned.
Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:31 PM (iEoiA)

About his manliness? never heard it or read it once. You from Texas?

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (m2CN7)

463 Eddie Haskell characterized a two-faced liar.

So the comparison with Cruz is slanderous, and took a malicious mind to put it out there as if innocently.

As per Cruz' successful courtroom mannerisms that won Texas cases before the SCOTUS (jealous, ace?), he's already "warming up" as approachable and personable, even on camera, whether in 1:1 interviews, debates, on the Senate Floor, in crowds or town halls.

I'm GLAD that Cruz is unlike Mitt Romney"Promise them anything; just get their votes." I can't stand "pleasers" who speak out of both sides of their mouth.

Cruz' ability to formulate succinct ideas and illuminate simple approaches to achievements is above reproach, and far outstanding to any other politician today. Whether he runs for (minority/majority) Senate Republican Caucus Leader or for POTUS, go Cruz!

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (MhA4j)

464 Which is why NYC did not try to regulate soft drinks and salt consumption with hamhanded gov't regulations.

Wait, that sounds off.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:25 PM (oY6Yp)
WasntBloomberg firstelected as a Republican? Anyway, sure some ridiculous things will happen along the way, but you guys should get comfortable with the idea that a huge majority of the electorate is just fine with having the state in their lifes if it benefits them and that these people find your paranoid antics about tyranny silly andirritating.

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (+sSYr)

465 So Sarah's too dumb, even though she is almost always right, Cruz is too smart, Romney was too rich, Christie is too fat, only Charlie Cheetah and George Hamilton Huntsman are acceptable until they in turn have proven disposable, Rubio, how has he turned out for you, btw.

Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (Jsiw/)

466 Is Obama hot? Ask Chris Matthews, then watch your step

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (bJm7W)

467 @105

I just read your comment and I need to know: Are you drunk, stoned, retarded, or some combination?

Posted by: LammyPI at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (48nJm)

468 Yes. It was just sort of "he comes off as an East-coast educated geek" sort of thing. How would that play with the tea party crowd against establishment Dewhurst, a former military guy, etc? Well Cruz got strong enough endorsements from conservatives that it really wasn't that big of an issue. But, on a national level, at least in the primaries, it might be...

Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (iEoiA)

469 insult what? Exactly what did your radar pick up ? Why was this never mentioned on the dozens of other threads about Cruz? This is ace's perception and his sycophants are eager to join him.
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:28 PM (m2CN7)




Because it is so irrelevant.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (IXrOn)

470 Better not waste Cruz on 2016 with Hillary.

Posted by: occam at August 22, 2013 03:41 PM (0BAcK)

471 395
I don't know how to put this delicately, so I won't: Obama won women voters because they were hoping his black half was below the waist, IYKWIMAITYD. Straight-up Mandingo fantasy.
-------------

Less than half. More like an eighth, from what I've heard. The missing chunk from there is apparently Arab.
Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:14 PM (UWFpX)

A guy named Kenneth Lamb put forth that nonsense. I see it all over the place, which proves how far BS can be spread. But one look at his alleged father proves that the latter isn't possibly 1/4 Arab.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:41 PM (Tnlh/)

472 Cruz/West 2016

This would make many heads explode and I would love it very much, please.

If Trey had not recently betrayed me, I would have been all for Cruz/Gowdy. I may still if he can 'splain his illegal crapola.

I also like Rep Jordan, who, I think, made Cankles band the desk and shriek "What does it matter anymore?"

But, y'all, leave it to the GOP to produce a tepid weakling like Jeb because it is his turn or something. gah.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 22, 2013 03:44 PM (baL2B)

473 Obsession about race ? What next the paper bag test ?
Obama carried the newer discharged vets also according to the Fox News Exit Polls. explain that by the race factor. please

Posted by: occam at August 22, 2013 03:45 PM (0BAcK)

474 Where does this Obama's dad was Arab thing come from? Have you seen pics of his dad? He makes me look like an albino Irish redhead.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, now Korean Arab, because that's how I really feel inside at August 22, 2013 03:21 PM (r+7wo)

Me too. The person who researched his "genealogy" didn't take into account that some black African converts to Islam call themselves Arab.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:46 PM (Tnlh/)

475 This is hardly the first time anyone has said this about Cruz. Even in his primary run it was mentioned.
Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:31 PM (iEoiA)


The girly guy in the TX GOP Senate Primary was the unmanly metromale Dewhurst. He rides his show horse but doesn't break a sweat or dirty his hands to ranch (hired help /Mexican/), he gets facials, plucked brows, manicures, powders his face and wears hair spray. That's the "rising Republican star" Dewhurst, insider neoconservative favorite of the Republican Leadership because he plays as he's told. "Roll over, Rover!"

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:47 PM (MhA4j)

476 Posted by: brak at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (iEoiA)

I went to his speeches, talked with others who campaigned for and against him and never had that issue of his manliness come up. Ever. Jindal was the potential candidate that was perceived as a nerd. And discussed at length here. That the same subject which people were not afraid to discuss about Jindal never came up about Cruz until this post by ace is my evidence.

Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 03:48 PM (m2CN7)

477 Anyway, sure some ridiculous things will happen along the way, but you guys should get comfortable with the idea that a huge majority of the electorate is just fine with having the state in their lifes if it benefits them and that these people find your paranoid antics about tyranny silly andirritating.

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (+sSYr)



So first it's nobody wants to do these things; now it's some people will do those things, but we should just live with it.

The truth is not silly; if it's irritating, that's a problem for the listener, not the one who calls it like it is.

You can call the truth-teller paranoid all you want, but if he correctly predicts the future, that guy's a prophet - ignore at your own risk.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (v3pYe)

478 465
So Sarah's too dumb, even though she is almost always right, Cruz is too
smart, Romney was too rich, Christie is too fat, only Charlie Cheetah
and George Hamilton Huntsman are acceptable until they in turn have
proven disposable, Rubio, how has he turned out for you, btw.


Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (Jsiw/)
You are supposed to reach the conclusion that Jeb is perfect.

Posted by: karl at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (/b8+5)

479 I see it begins on our side, and not over policy, of course. Funny how
so many who've never spoken up before now realize that there "was
something about him".

I don't even mind the the Boss saying it,
it's his place and that's the way he feels. It's the others, especially
the women, who suddenly remember that there was something unattractive, unmanly about Cruz. Shallow much? Of course, they never mentioned it
before until the the boss wrote about it. Unfrickinbelievable. Who needs
the left?

Posted by: jeannebodine at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (KLWgj)

480 WasntBloomberg firstelected as a Republican? Anyway, sure some ridiculous things will happen along the way, but you guys should get comfortable with the idea that a huge majority of the electorate is just fine with having the state in their lifes if it benefits them and that these people find your paranoid antics about tyranny silly andirritating.
Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (+sSYr)

_______

1. Republicans can be leftists too.

2. You know who else disagreed with Bloomberg? The NY Supreme Court.

You were saying....

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (HDgX3)

481 Obama is the most ideological person the Left could have found. Yet, Conservatives are scared of what the other side might say?

Posted by: MrX at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (PxmNZ)

482 Barak Obama, the president's father, never claimed to be anything but Kenyan; not American, not Arab. He never applied to become an American citizen, no interest, glad for the "foreign student aid" status.

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:57 PM (MhA4j)

483 True. Not everything. Just education, health care, banks, auto industry, energy. But aside from that, yeah it's all about capitalism on the left.Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:28 PM (HDgX3) if by "running" you just mean setting (sometimes tight)rules, well i guess then the left and a huge chunk of america reallyare communist. i thinkif the government doesnt own and manage the entire productive capacity of an economy its not communism. even someone like friedrich hayek allowed for public options and state interventions in industries like healthcare. i guess he is acommie too?

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 03:57 PM (+sSYr)

484 Make no mistake. He is every bit the powdered
douchestocking that the rest of them are. Will he be useful to us?
That's all I care about.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2013 02:38 PM (CJjw5)

The phrase "powdered douchestocking" alone makes that comment worthwhile.

Posted by: joncelli at August 22, 2013 03:58 PM (RD7QR)

485 You are supposed to reach the conclusion that Jeb is perfect.

Posted by: karl

bwahahaha

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 03:59 PM (MhA4j)

486 Can we please address the fact that Cruz is so obviously gay? I have no problem with that, and would support him as an openly gay man, but c'mon. He's obviously blackmail bait.

Posted by: Lizzie at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (8ns3O)

487 1. Republicans can be leftists too.

2. You know who else disagreed with Bloomberg? The NY Supreme Court.

You were saying....Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (HDgX3)
idont know why you think that you have scored a point here.i also disagree with bloomberg.

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 04:02 PM (+sSYr)

488 127. '... like more well-rounded.'
Posted by: ace at 02:16

The Fat Mexican: The Bloody Rise of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club //

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 04:03 PM (MhA4j)

489
So first it's nobody wants to do these things; now it's some people will do those things, but we should just live with it.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (v3pYe)
thats just tedious and you know it. most people laughed at bloomberg and rightly so. you sometimes get a nutter into a position of power, but thats the cost of doing business and everybody with common sense knows that. butsuch tinyrisks ("first they came for my coke...")simply isnt worth rooting out the state that can provide huge benefits andeconomic safetyfor the citizenry.

Posted by: LaPasionaria at August 22, 2013 04:07 PM (+sSYr)

490 (8ns3O) is so obviously closet gay

gotta make everything about gay, too cowardly to come out yourself (8ns3O) so label your opponent with your own "I'm so open minded without a problem" bigoted hangup.

Lizzie at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (8ns3O) with no other reference

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 04:08 PM (MhA4j)

491 Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 03:09 PM (/b8+5)


Posted by: jem at August 22, 2013 04:20 PM (fM4kr)

492 16like I think Ted Cruz needs callouses on his hands.


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 02:17 PM (/IWYB)----------------Yeah, more like me.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 22, 2013 04:22 PM (w41GQ)

493 It's sage advice like this that has made ace so
highly sought after as a campaign consultant. Instead of primary debates
we should have the contestants compete in feats of strength and daring.


Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2013 02:23

First comes the Airing of Grievances ..

I gotta lot of problems with you people!!

Posted by: Frank Costanza at August 22, 2013 04:35 PM (/9IC1)

494 I don't think of Cruz as a conservative or Tea Partier as much as I think of him as an accomplished champion of the Constitution, which today more than ever needs every eloquent, fearless champion it can get. Without that everything else burns to the ground. Cruz understands that.

Posted by: YFS at August 22, 2013 04:43 PM (evUpK)

495
"Note the insulting assumption that an interest in books and ideas automatically immunizes someone from a certain kind of conservative politics."

This sort of thing really pisses me off. You'd have to try really hard to ignore how much books, big thick hard-to-read books, have impacted conservatism over the past forty years. If you ask nearly any conservative why they are conservative, they'd be very likely to rattle off the titles of a series of heavyweight books: Wealth and Poverty by George Gilder, Free to Choose by Milton Friedman, Losing Ground and Coming Apart by Charles Murray, Evangelical Catholicism by George Weigel, not to mention the giants, Russell Kirk (The Conservative Mind), Friedrich Hayek (The Road to Serfdom), George Orwell (1984 and Animal Farm), etc., etc., etc. I'm sure I'm leaving some out... but ask yourself this:

If you went up to a young liberal at a "Occupy Wall Street" rally, do you really think he could rattle off a list of liberal books that impacted his development as a liberal as easily as young conservatives could?

Posted by: The Regular Guy at August 22, 2013 05:26 PM (qHCyt)

496 He'd be the ultimate slam-dunk if he was born on American soil.

I don't know how he squares that circle.

Posted by: McAdams at August 22, 2013 05:48 PM (4vYeC)

497
I wonder how his undergraduate grades compare with The One's? I'm willing to bet a bright, shiny nickel that Cruz did far better than Obama.

But since Obama's grades are a state secret held more securely than the NSA's darkest inner workings (priorities, guys, priorities!), we'll never have a chance to find out, will we?

Posted by: Brown Line at August 22, 2013 05:58 PM (VrNoa)

498 496 He'd be the ultimate slam-dunk if he was born on American soil.

I don't know how he squares that circle.

He already has. He's an American citizen, period. Renounced his dual citizenship.

Posted by: YFS at August 22, 2013 05:59 PM (evUpK)

499 If you want to put a hitch in their get along then just have the next Republican president put out an executive order stating that since the graduates of certain schools have mucked things up so badly the US government will no longer be hiring Ivy Leaguers.

Not only would it be populist, but it would illustrate how little value a degree from those schools has outside of getting one past the gatekeepers and into the ranks of the elite governmental ruling class. Let them compete for jobs that do not depend on their holding the right set of political views or having the right contacts and see how they like it for a while. Let them test the knowledge they gained in school against the real world where success isn't defined as loyalty to a failed and bankrupt ideology.

There are plenty of high school graduates who can hold down the jobs these people do. How hard can it be to send dick pictures and spend money all day?

Posted by: Thatch at August 22, 2013 06:33 PM (qYvEa)

500 498.

It's going to be an issue regardless, Ive always read the Constitution to mean someone born on American soil, but even if you don't agree with that interpretation, it's going to be an issue with some portion of the electorate.

Had Obama actually been born in Kenya (even to American parents), I don't think he would have made it to the White House.

Posted by: McAdams at August 22, 2013 07:11 PM (4vYeC)






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