Jay Carney Press Conference
Press Ignoring Huge CNN Scoop (Including CNN's Own WH Correspondent); Reports That Correspondents are "Fearful" of Losing "Access" If They Touch Story

Not sure if anyone is going to ask him about CNN's huge scoop on Friday. That might result in news, and we can't have that. The only news should be Obama's sixty three thousand speeches.

Live stream here.

Here are some stupid things Jay Carney might say about the CIA intimidating agents off of speaking to Congress, if anyone in the press is so daring to ask a question about it.

Frankly I wouldn't be all that surprised if CNN's White House reporter ignored his company's own scoop.

Thusfar... One reporter is badgering Carney a bit about whether the Al Qaeda "core" is "on the path to defeat," as Obama loves to say. Carney is insistent that the Al Qaeda "core," which is the Afghanistan/Pakistan branch, is "on the path to defeat." (Really?) But that there is some Variety Pack Al Qaeda, perhaps Diet Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda Free, which might not be fully "on the path to defeat."


UPDATE: CNN REPORTERS "FEARFUL" THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS: Perhaps the White House has issued its own Stream of Threatening Chatter.

Some CNN reporters are reportedly fearful now that their access to the White House will be hampered following their probing into a story that members of the Obama administration would prefer remain uninvestigated.

“Access is a very serious consideration when it comes to stories that could adversely impact a show, correspondent, or network’s relationship with the administration, a campaign, or any political leader,” one source with insider information told Mediaite.

“I would suggest it’s not an accident that those who have been given a lot of access to the president have generally been AWOL when it comes to stories that might reflect poorly on him,” the source, who did not wish to be identified, continued. “It’s the name of the game. And it’s bad for everyone trying to do this job the right way.”

Those reporters have reason to fear for their access to America’s executive branch. Some suspect that reporters who soft-pedal or underreport stories uncomfortable to the administration receive preferential access to White House officials.

Posted by: Ace at 02:14 PM



Comments

1 IS there anything more valueless than a Jay Carney Press Conference?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 05, 2013 02:15 PM (xjpRj)

2 If we had a true free and honest press here nobody would attend any of these press conferences. What good does it do to listen to a pack of lies, "knowing" (see what I did there) that it was a pack of lies.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:15 PM (lZvxr)

3 There is no truth in the news and no news in the truth.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2013 02:15 PM (7ObY1)

4 I rather watch Sydney Leathers rub one out than a Jay Carney presser.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2013 02:15 PM (9XBK2)

5 Carney:

AQ is dead.
Long live AQ.

Posted by: USA at August 05, 2013 02:18 PM (VIaw0)

6 I rather watch Sydney Leathers rub one out than a Jay Carney presser.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2013 02:15 PM (9XBK2)


I would rather watch a frog puke up bug guts than watch one of these pressers.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:18 PM (lZvxr)

7 Anyone going to ask why if the threats to our embassies had gone to DEFCON-1, Preznit Boyfriend thought it was important to golf?

Sorry, must be the meds

Posted by: kbdabear at August 05, 2013 02:19 PM (/9IC1)

8 Unless 16-yr old interns are doing the questioning - you know, people who haven't learned all the bad habits and behaviors of the professional class - then infomercials are a better investment of time. And more honest.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2013 02:19 PM (eHIJJ)

9 I'd rather watch The Big Bang Theory than a Jay Carney presser.

Well, no, not really.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 05, 2013 02:20 PM (uYaYO)

10 Carney:
The world has confused AQ and its affiliates -- also called AQ.

Posted by: USA at August 05, 2013 02:20 PM (VIaw0)

11
Don't cross the Life Streams, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2013 02:20 PM (YUF7o)

12 Frankly I wouldn't be all that surprised if CNN's White House reporter ignored his company's own scoop.

I'd be nice if Fox brought it up, referencing CNN in detail. It might make the CNN reporter look like some that just came out of a tall cow's a$$.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 05, 2013 02:20 PM (kqqGm)

13 I'll translate what Jay is now saying: We have done everything right and nothing wrong.

Told you all I have as I am in no position to discuss intelligence. (that's for sure)

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:20 PM (baL2B)

14 Jay Carney bears a good resemblance to James Spader

Spader played the weaselly type in the movies a lot

Posted by: kbdabear at August 05, 2013 02:20 PM (/9IC1)

15 Auto-stomp! You'll grow hair on your palms!

Posted by: joncelli at August 05, 2013 02:21 PM (RD7QR)

16 Just another day at the office for the White House steno pool!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 05, 2013 02:21 PM (1M/xn)

17 BeckoningChasm: "IS there anything more valueless than a Jay Carney Press Conference?"

A Robert Gibbs Press Conference.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2013 02:21 PM (eHIJJ)

18 I just turned off my Swedish House Mafia stream for this...

Weird the camera turned to the press corps and they look like the Swedish WHITE House Mafia...

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:21 PM (r2PLg)

19 I'm so sick of this little cocksucker and his Misinformation Conferences.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 05, 2013 02:22 PM (ELs9k)

20 Any bets Baroque will not meet with Putin? Putin and axis of evil laugh their collective asses off about our preening preznit. The "utility" of the summit. Wut?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:22 PM (baL2B)

21
No no. These terrorists are DIFFERENT! Or something. Remember the "Mission Accomplished" banner Bush took so much flak for even thought it wasn't of his doing. The left went batshit crazy. No, "Alquidea not a threat, on the run". Will of course I'm sure get the same sense of feigned outrage.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 05, 2013 02:22 PM (298ij)

22 Why has the NSA hidden Carney's eyebrows? WHAT IS THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT HIDING?

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 02:24 PM (mukPq)

23 Maybe Obama can kill Osama Bin Laden again.

Posted by: Roy at August 05, 2013 02:24 PM (VndSC)

24 This administration is poised to fail!

Posted by: EC at August 05, 2013 02:24 PM (GQ8sn)

25 If Obama replaced Carney with a bald ferret, would the press notice?

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (mukPq)

26 Can't think of any Muppets whose every word is a lie, but this might work.
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Dirk

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (/kI1Q)

27 They really are that dumb.

Posted by: akula_51 at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (4p5/2)

28 Well that was fun. My friend just pulled up with his John Deere lawn tractor and told me I had a couple hours if I wanted to use it. It's overkill for our small yard, but it was a good stress reliever. I'm totally ready for some dirt track mower racing.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (ZshNr)

29 Not if the bald ferret had glasses.

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (r2PLg)

30 The ferret in its chittering would be an improvement. And if the ferret attacked the press corpse, well PPV gold baby!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (0WdQr)

31 But that there is some Variety Pack Al Qaeda, perhaps Diet Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda Free, which might not be fully "on the path to defeat."


So our embassies are cowering in fear because of the terrorist equivalent of Crystal Pepsi?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (4df7R)

32 No,no,it's too unbelievable!

“I would suggest it’s not an accident that those who have been given a lot of access to the president have generally been AWOL when it comes to stories that might reflect poorly on him,” the source, who did not wish to be identified, continued. “It’s the name of the game. And it’s bad for everyone trying to do this job the right way.”

Those reporters have reason to fear for their access to America’s executive branch. Some suspect that reporters who soft-pedal or underreport stories uncomfortable to the administration receive preferential access to White House officials.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2013 02:26 PM (9XBK2)

33 Barnaby Jack dead at 35.

Purely natural causes, I'm sure.

Posted by: Invictus at August 05, 2013 02:26 PM (OQpzc)

34
UPDATE: CNN REPORTERS "FEARFUL" THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS

Nonsense. Them thar CNN folks a professional journalists. They would never compromise their principles just to maintain access.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 02:26 PM (xGZ+b)

35 iReggie knows all of the touch points, y'all.

Back to bad guys: "We have no rhubarb clue."

No new threats. Preznit safe on beach or golf course as all American citizens should be in the face of danger. I think this is just a big ole wag the dog or "See! NSA is working!"

We all know why Juan and Graham were there kissing the barky stone.

What speechifying is going on tomorrow? I will have to miss.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:27 PM (baL2B)

36 Maybe Obama can kill Osama Bin Laden again.

***

Say, remember when B*sh was President and killing terrorists was somehow a bad thing?

Ahhhhhh, good times.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 05, 2013 02:27 PM (WMsq+)

37 UPDATE: CNN REPORTERS "FEARFUL" THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS

Just like when CNN adjusted its stance to maintain access with Saddam Hussein.

It's getting hard to tell the difference.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (mukPq)

38 MWR, nah Pepsi Zero is the true phantom menace.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (0WdQr)

39 What's the point of having access if you aren't going to report the facts and actual news? Does CNN think their job is to be court stenographers for The One?

What a shitty place this country is in right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (g1DWB)

40
10 Carney: The world has confused AQ and its affiliates -- also called AQ.

Pretty sure I saw that Tamara Holder wench run that one up the flagpole this weekend.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (xGZ+b)

41 I think President Obama should cut the DoD more and give that money to DHS to protect us from Terrorism.

Posted by: Laquisha Largess at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (90aTA)

42 33
Barnaby Jack dead at 35.



Purely natural causes, I'm sure.

Posted by: Invictus at August 05, 2013 02:26 PM (OQpzc)

Well, strychnine is a natural substance, right?

Posted by: joncelli at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (RD7QR)

43 CNN access = reporters still get to go to bitchin' parties and concerts at the WH.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (L8r/r)

44 PRESENT! (On the golf course.)

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (71LDo)

45 CNN bent over for Saddam over "access", so of course they'll do so for President Obama.

Posted by: MostlyRight at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (w9AQ4)

46 So CNN is treating access to the President like they treated access to Saddam Hussein? Interesting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (0WdQr)

47 "Carney is insistent that the Al Qaeda 'core,' which is the Afghanistan/Pakistan branch, is 'on the path to defeat.'"

Of course. On the path. To defeat. Shortly. Almost there. Real soon now.

Just as the stagnant Obamaconomy is "poised for growth" and "ready for takeoff" that Americans "will feel" in their paychecks, thanks to Obama's wise "investments in the future".

Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, you're only a day a-way!

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (gqT4g)

48 Does CNN think their job is to be court stenographers for The One?


***

That's rhetorical, right?

Posted by: cool arrow at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (WMsq+)

49 These are not the al Queda we are looking for.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (dks8o)

50
Carney is insistent that the Al Qaeda "core," which is the Afghanistan/Pakistan branch, is "on the path to defeat."

AFAIK, the only reason the Pakistan branch might be on the path to defeat is that the madrassas have emptied sending fighters to Afghanistan, so nobody's home in Pakistan.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (xGZ+b)

51
Reporters are fearful of asking questions about Benghazi because they're getting lie detectors every week from the FBI.


Not thatthe FBI can tell heads or tailsfrom the readouts..

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Puppets at August 05, 2013 02:30 PM (3ZtZW)

52 24
This administration is poised to fail!

Posted by: EC at August 05, 2013 02:24 PM (GQ8sn)
***********But they will be saved from the brink by another Obama " prancing pivot" which he learned from Peruvia.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 02:30 PM (rznx3)

53 How exciting #askObarfyhousing
#assObarfyaboutireggielove
#askObarfyWhereHeWasTheNightOf9/11/12

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:30 PM (baL2B)

54 Well, strychnine is a natural substance, right?
Posted by: joncelli at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (RD7QR)

I guess there were too many deaths due to heart attacks in hot tubs. I'd really hate to be this guy's medical examiner.

Posted by: Invictus at August 05, 2013 02:31 PM (OQpzc)

55 "So our embassies are cowering in fear because of the terrorist equivalent of Crystal Pepsi?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM"


Admittedly, I could understand if it were the terrorist equivalent of New Coke. That shit was foul.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2013 02:31 PM (knoK7)

56 CNN would never cower to the will of a dictator and subjugate its journalist integrity

Posted by: Peter Arnett at August 05, 2013 02:31 PM (Pr6hk)

57 UPDATE: CNN REPORTERS "FEARFUL" THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS: Perhaps the White House has issued its own Stream of Threatening Chatter.


Mr. Duranty, please pick up the white courtesy phone! Walter Duranty, please answer the courtesy phone.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 05, 2013 02:31 PM (4df7R)

58
22 Why has the NSA hidden Carney's eyebrows? WHAT IS THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT HIDING?

He sacrificed his eyebrows to save the Earth from alien invasion. This is the actual story behind the famous Dangermouse episode, which has Penfold playing the part of Carney.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 02:31 PM (xGZ+b)

59 Benghazi? Benghazi? Benghazi?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:32 PM (baL2B)

60 "UPDATE: CNN REPORTERS 'FEARFUL' THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS"

Alternate headline:

OBAMA LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN REGARDING MEDIA ACCESS

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2013 02:32 PM (eHIJJ)

61 Yeah, cuz, you know, they were all worried about access when they didn't badger the Bush administration.

Posted by: IronDioPriest at August 05, 2013 02:32 PM (1dJQd)

62 We all know why Juan and Graham were there kissing the barky stone.

***

Because it is their nature.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 05, 2013 02:32 PM (dks8o)

63 The War on Al Qaida seems to be going about as well as the War on Poverty, or the War on Drugs.

Posted by: Invictus at August 05, 2013 02:33 PM (OQpzc)

64 Sic em, Ed! yay FOX!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (baL2B)

65 I wonder how much Carney drinks in order to look in the mirror.

Posted by: RWC at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (fWAjv)

66 UPDATE: CNN REPORTERS "FEARFUL" THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS

We had to destroy the truth in order to report it.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (mukPq)

67
These are not the al Queda we are looking for.

Posted by: WalrusRex
----------
But they will be saved from the brink by another Obama " prancing pivot" which he learned from Peruvia.


Posted by: gracepmc
--------------------------

Comments like the above are what keep me here

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (aDwsi)

68 WHAT FREAKING GOOD IS ACCESS IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REPORT THE "NEWS" ANYWAY!!!

C'MON!!!!

Posted by: mike at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (C6f7T)

69
I keep on thinking that the reason there is this world wide alert (oh no!) is because of Tapper's scoop. Its almost as if they wanted a distraction. Nah, couldn't happen.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (qM18f)

70 Al Qaeda-Now with More Nuance!

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (r2PLg)

71 CNN tailored their reporting to suit Saddam's wishes all those years ago. They're used to putting'access' above truthful reporting. Only surprising thing is the metro-sexual Barry can intimidate them as much as that other Hussein did.

Posted by: Retread at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (pOhSg)

72 Killing terrorists just creates more terrorists.

Telling them they are losing and then closing your embassies in fear is the way to defeat them.

Posted by: The Left at August 05, 2013 02:34 PM (w9AQ4)

73 Can you imagine what a different place we would be in if these so called reporters were as diligent about covering the Obama WH as they were the Bush WH? No way would this grifter had a second term.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:35 PM (g1DWB)

74 So CIA operatives are fearful of talking to reporters because they're being threatened by the Obama White House, and reporters are fearful of talking to CIA operatives because they're being threatened by the Obama White House.

For additional info., see: "United States of America, Fundamental Transformation of" 2008, Barack Obama author, Chicago Way Publishing.

Posted by: miked at August 05, 2013 02:35 PM (iZiIb)

75 Time to end conference! Reporters starting to go off plan!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:35 PM (baL2B)

76 47 "Carney is insistent that the Al Qaeda 'core,' which is the Afghanistan/Pakistan branch, is 'on the path to defeat.'" Of course. On the path. To defeat. Shortly. Almost there. Real soon now.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 02:29 PM (gqT4g)


From the people who are allergic to the word, "victory". Somehow, the terrorists will be defeated without America winning.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2013 02:35 PM (v3pYe)

77 Oh wow....


Democrats have finally realized--

Fighting Terrorism--is hard.

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:36 PM (r2PLg)

78 Being an independent professional news journalist means you don't swallow...well, maybe just a little.

Posted by: Neal Marx, Newsman at August 05, 2013 02:36 PM (SzAZ7)

79 The only degrading in the world has been the USA under this administration.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:36 PM (baL2B)

80 You have to work your core.

Posted by: Dwight Schrute at August 05, 2013 02:36 PM (ZshNr)

81 I liked the original series, but the Al-Queda - The Next Generation has caught my interest.

Posted by: Roy at August 05, 2013 02:36 PM (VndSC)

82 TOUGH QUESTIONS!

"Mr President what did the First Lady get you for your birthday?"

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 05, 2013 02:36 PM (8sCoq)

83 "Some CNN reporters are reportedly fearful now that their access to the
White House will be hampered following their probing into a story that
members of the Obama administration would prefer remain uninvestigated."

Listen up here! We got a problem.

There are only fifty pairs of officially approved knee pads available in the press corps equipment room, and there are sixty-two of you. So there's gonna have to be a few _changes_ in the way things get done.

Posted by: Jay Carney at August 05, 2013 02:37 PM (gqT4g)

84 Of course you are not going to talk, Jay-Jay! You freaking Pinnochio-nose-ho. I'd like to see Miss Rhubarb in the press conference.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:37 PM (baL2B)

85 Carney:Take the fight to Al Qaeda!


Oh wait... sounds like ______ !

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:37 PM (r2PLg)

86 We've always been at war with Poverty, Drugs and Terror.

Posted by: MostlyRight at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (w9AQ4)

87 Try Kettle Cooked Al Qaeda with sea salt, available at a grocer near you.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (epxV4)

88 CNN, "Mr. President what did you have for breakfast?"

President, "Can't I finish my waffle?"

CNN, "Well uh okay" Keeps blushing as she sits back down.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (0WdQr)

89
>>>So CIA operatives are fearful of talking to reporters because they're being threatened by the Obama White House, and reporters are fearful of talking to CIA operatives because they're being threatened by the Obama White House.


RACIST!!1!

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Puppets at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (3ZtZW)

90 Is someone going to ask Carney --

What about Smart Diplomacy?

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (r2PLg)

91 WHY THE HELL DO NOT THEY SAY WHAT THE POTENTIAL ATTACK IS? Exploding underwear? Breast implants under burkas? Norwegians? pfft

Honey, Graham and Juan do not represent me. They are there to kiss the barky stone and whine about the Tea Party.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (baL2B)

92 Question for Jay Carney.

If I am killed by an al Qaeda spinoff instead of al Qaeda core am I any less dead? Is it an actual terrorist attack or workplace violence?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:38 PM (g1DWB)

93 “Access is a very serious consideration when it comes to stories that could adversely impact a show, correspondent, or network’s relationship with the administration, a campaign, or any political leader,” one source with insider information told Mediaite.


Soooooooooo. Based on CNN's past dealings with having to trade stories for access, doesn't that make TFG Saddam Hussein? Besides officially making Carney Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 05, 2013 02:39 PM (VtjlW)

94
What is the point of access if you aren't going to report the fkkin' news?
"You can have access to the buffet, but don't eat anything."

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 05, 2013 02:39 PM (VLifP)

95 Strangley, their concern about losing access will evaporate the minute a Republican is elected President.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 05, 2013 02:39 PM (OWjjx)

96 >Only surprising thing is the metro-sexual Barry can intimidate them as much as that other Hussein did.


WELL, THEY'RE both muslim tyrants

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 05, 2013 02:39 PM (8sCoq)

97 We could hope this Administration can cancel Al Qaeda Phase II before it airs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:39 PM (0WdQr)

98 92 Question for Jay Carney.

If I am killed by an al Qaeda spinoff instead of al Qaeda core am I any less dead?

*********

lmao--oh gawd.

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:40 PM (r2PLg)

99 Wow. Bolton was just on Fox, and all I heard was Blah, blah, blah. He couldn't make it past my "No NSA apologists" filter.

He's dead to me.

Posted by: Invictus at August 05, 2013 02:40 PM (OQpzc)

100 Why isn't Kerry over there in Egypt? It could be worse: could be Susan Rice?

I bet Barky is not going to attend. Travel warnings. pfft

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:40 PM (baL2B)

101 A little rhyme to go with all the song and dance...


Carney delivers the message postwar
Proclaiming defeat of Al Qaedas core
With Baracks policies in shambles
Carney continuously rambles
Proving Barack's little phoney's a bore

Posted by: sTevo at August 05, 2013 02:40 PM (l/nqd)

102 Leave the pen, take the doggie

Posted by: Barky McBamastain at August 05, 2013 02:40 PM (Pr6hk)

103 The political media has now taken on the ethos of the sports and entertainment media.

Think about a sports reporter. Why is he a sports reporter? Well, other than the fact that he's a frustrated political reporter, he also likes sports. You don't become a sports reporter if you hate sports.

Similarly, you don't become a government reporter if you hate government.

The sports media is all about access. You do have people trashing athletes but most suck up to them as much as they can. If you're the Miami Heat beat reporter, what good does it do if they won't talk to you? Either because of you or because of a columnist at your paper.

The entertainment media is similar except that they have developed paparazzi. Celebrities hate TMZ.

The political media's only TMZ are conservatives. The MSM is even worse than liberal bloggers because at least liberal bloggers will occasionally challenge Democrats.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2013 02:40 PM (T0NGe)

104 AlextheChick, it does fix the narrative. Sodumb Insane and Gagdad Boob in the White House.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (0WdQr)

105 Maybe we should ask these questions via the WH Petition link if journalists can't do their damn job. I'm sure we could get the requisite number of people.

Posted by: CDR M at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (y67bA)

106 Wouldn't it be reasonable to say that the Al Qaeda spin-offs, in a world in which the core of Al Qaeda is degraded, are in fact the NEW Al Qaeda? And that maybe they're re-forming around their own core personnel? And that maybe pretending that Al Qaeda is the ONLY terrorist organization in the Muzzie world is a bit naive and short-sighted?

Just a thought, Carney, just a thought.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (4df7R)

107 We don't report so we can maintain access to news not to report.

Posted by: Neal Marx, Newsman at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (SzAZ7)

108 93



Soooooooooo. Based on CNN's past dealings with having to trade
stories for access, doesn't that make TFG Saddam Hussein? Besides
officially making Carney Baghdad Bob?**************Plausible. Reincarnation.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (rznx3)

109 "You can have access to the buffet, but don't eat anything."

You can look at the menu, but you just can't eat....
Your the fastest runner but your not allowed to win.....
You can get the punishment but you can't commit the sin

And you want her.....and she wants you....we want and we wanttttt

And you want her......and she wants you.......but, No one, No one, no one ever.........is to blame.

Posted by: CNN Reporters, Humming a Howard Jones Tune at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (OWjjx)

110 I wish someone would ask Jay why the embassies and consulates were not closed last year after many threats, which led to the deaths of four in Benghazi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (baL2B)

111 I believe Mork and Mindy was a spin-off of Happy Days, which was a spinoff of the PLO.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (ZshNr)

112 "WaPo writers fearful of probing Watergate Complex story for fear of being denied access by Nixon administration."

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at August 05, 2013 02:41 PM (Unw5+)

113 Incredibly scary when the press is afraid to ask the Benghazi breaking news question. What the hell is going on?

Posted by: USA at August 05, 2013 02:42 PM (VIaw0)

114 I don't know what a Life Stream is but it sounds both refreshing and delicious.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 05, 2013 02:42 PM (tWmgi)

115 Yes, I admit, my access to Reggie Love has been threatened

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at August 05, 2013 02:42 PM (Pr6hk)

116 39 Jackstraw beat me tomypoint in comment 94 but I was so enraged I didn't read the comments first. I got to write'fkkin', so it wasn't completely redundant.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 05, 2013 02:42 PM (VLifP)

117 > You don't become a sports reporter if you hate sports.


and if you get banned from the practice field or the locker room, your career's over

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (8sCoq)

118 Well, strychnine is a natural substance, right?
Posted by: joncelli at August 05, 2013 02:28 PM (RD7QR)



So is lead.


Not to mention aspirin being a helluva drug.

Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (VtjlW)

119 So is Al Qaeda Core kind of like Kentucky Fried Chicken?

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (r2PLg)

120 complete embargo. No one is asking about the CNN story.

Total. F'n'. Embargo.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (/IWYB)

121 For AlextheChick
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/08/xkcd-time-comic/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (0WdQr)

122 perhaps Diet Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda Free, which might not be fully "on the path to defeat."

Also, Al Qaeda Zero and Al Qaeda Max....which can be found at most Wal Greens, CVS and other fine retailers.

Posted by: Al Qaeda Marketing Department. at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (OWjjx)

123 WTF. Does somebody have to die to get noticed here???

oh. question answered

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (Pr6hk)

124 The Core. The Core. The actions taken against Corpse were right thing to do to mitigate threat but not defeated. No question. Aqap (?) are threats. Mindful. Responding.

Only can take a couple of more. Bullshit running out and down leg.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (baL2B)

125 News used to be about getting the scoop. Now it is about using a scoop to shovel what the WH allows you to say.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 05, 2013 02:44 PM (vOq2q)

126 >Incredibly scary when the press is afraid to ask the Benghazi breaking news question. What the hell is going on?

Posted by: USA at August 05, 2013 02:42 PM (VIaw0)

It will be detailed in my upcoming book, The Blowing Of The President, 2009-2016

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 05, 2013 02:44 PM (8sCoq)

127 The US economy is deader than AQ is.

Posted by: Purp at August 05, 2013 02:44 PM (O8LFP)

128 Time to refresh the Tree of Liberty

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at August 05, 2013 02:44 PM (Pr6hk)

129
114 I don't know what a Life Stream is but it sounds both refreshing and delicious.

Cheap Chinese knockoff of Soda Stream?

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 02:44 PM (xGZ+b)

130 This AQAP v. AQ bullshit reminds me of the Joe Isuzu commercials.

Posted by: USA at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (VIaw0)

131 Really, you American journolist are a joke with your kow towing to the official Government line.

Posted by: Pravda at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (OWjjx)

132 Granted, no one from CNN has stood up at a press conference and yelled that Obama was one lying motherfucker, but they have contributed more to actual journalism lately than ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the New York Times and the Washington Post.

Let's cut them a little slack.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (u2a4R)

133 The slavish devotion of the lick-spittle media does afford us timeless classics like this one: "We have to pass the bill before we find out what's in it." That bit of sheer lunacy will outlive the lady who uttered it. Any journalist would hound such a ditz out of town, if there were any journalists.

Posted by: Gem State-visiiting Moron at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (sAicm)

134 What's most enraging about this bullshit is that it clearly demonstrates Carney and the rest of this administration have no idea about the roots of al Qaeda or it's structure. It has ALWAYS been a decentralized organization with far flung affiliates, that was the intentional design.

So there you have it. The Obama administration is either willfully ignorant or lying. Or both.

Super.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (g1DWB)

135 So much rage.

Posted by: Your Betters at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (ELdpj)

136 Life Stream brings your ancestors back to life.... once Haley's Comet re-appears with the space vampires.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (0WdQr)

137 120 complete embargo. No one is asking about the CNN story.

Total. F'n'. Embargo.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (/IWYB)


***********

Dude.

It's like Inception but you hated that movie--so not going to be able to explain it.

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (r2PLg)

138 I ate the bones! I ate the bones!

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (ZshNr)

139 Local crime story?

Phony scandal?

Preoccupationof Fox News?

It must be one of those....

Posted by: MTF at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (B5y+v)

140 "Incredibly scary when the press is afraid to ask the Benghazi breaking news question."

Funny you should use that word.

Miss Lindsay was on the Sunday gabfests and claiming to have been fresh from a sooper dooper top secret high level national security briefing conducted by the Vice President, which Miss Lindsay said was "very scary".

Scary? That's not the half of it. Had I been in Miss Lindsay's shoes, I would have been sitting there absolutely flipping terrified. Terrified that someone like Joey Choo-Choo is actually entrusted with classified national security responsibilities and innocent lives at stake.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (gqT4g)

141 Excuse me mister reporter, can we ask you a few questions about that career you have there

Posted by: Eric The Chinless at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (Pr6hk)

142 28 Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 02:25 PM (ZshNr)


Remember one can not mow without a beer.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (lZvxr)

143
>>>>I don't know what a Life Stream is but it sounds both refreshing and delicious.

I don't know about *that* but my doctor asked some questions aboutmine then prescribed glycerin pills.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Puppets at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (3ZtZW)

144 White House Press Corpse indeed.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (rznx3)

145 CNN REPORTERS "FEARFUL" THAT PUSHING BENGHAZI STORY WILL COST THEM ACCESS


Because Unfettered.

Yep. That is some amazing Unfettered Pursuit of Journalism. Just goes to show that every single reporter, regardless of their politics, knows that this administration does not tell the truth and generally operates as a criminal organization does.

The only disagreement comes from whether or not this behavior is acceptable.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (tWmgi)

146
I've got a cure for islamic terrorism-

Alqae-da Seltzer!

Plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is.


There- all better!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon aka Dr. Who, What, Where, Why and When at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (pxDth)

147 Not enough explosions

Posted by: Dateline NBC at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (Pr6hk)

148 Those reporters have reason to fear for their access to America’s executive branch.

ALL reporters fear losing access to ANY White House, Dem or GOP. The difference is, they'd know the rest of the press corps would have their back if a Republican White House tried to shut them out over a negative story.

If the Bush White House tried this over such an important story, the rest of the reporters would double their efforts to chase it down. There would be no split loyalties.

Posted by: CJ at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (9KqcB)

149 Meanwhile, we are just sitting here, waiting for the inevitable explosion

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 05, 2013 02:47 PM (vOq2q)

150 Dozens of CIA on the ground and Zero questions!!!

Gobsmacked!

Posted by: USA at August 05, 2013 02:48 PM (VIaw0)

151
The US economy is deader than AQ is.


Posted by: Purp
-------------------------------

The only thing on 'The Path to Defeat' is 'The Recovery Summer'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 05, 2013 02:48 PM (aDwsi)

152 I deliberately tuned out this weekend. ..so what was the scoop?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 02:49 PM (jS9Ak)

153 This is a proud CNN tradition going back to Saddam's Baghdad! Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 05, 2013 02:49 PM (Xq2WY)

154 134 What's most enraging about this bullshit is that it clearly demonstrates Carney and the rest of this administration have no idea about the roots of al Qaeda or it's structure. It has ALWAYS been a decentralized organization with far flung affiliates, that was the intentional design.

So there you have it. The Obama administration is either willfully ignorant or lying. Or both.

Super.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:45 PM (g1DWB)

********

Agree minus the super.

Look most politicians will take advantage of what the public does not- or cannot- or chooses not to know.

Dangerous stuff.

Posted by: tasker at August 05, 2013 02:49 PM (r2PLg)

155 I have a question for Jay Carney.

Does Barney Frank have teeth?

I'm serious. I've never seen a picture of that guy with teeth.

It's really starting to freak me out.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:49 PM (C+qQ0)

156 Just think of how much rage and fire the next republican president is going to face from journalists as their collective 8 year vacation from reporting will finally be over.

Posted by: kreplach at August 05, 2013 02:49 PM (X9npt)

157 Global war on terror not cool/ too Bush-like

Nomenclature more cool. Threat against Al Qaeda, putzes. Real threat. Focused like a laser on using resources to counter threat against US. Refocused. We be the awesome and ended war in Iraq as promised (too bad about those bombs!). We are the ones you have hoped for since 2008. We drink our own bathwater, which reduces threats on US. Focused again on Al Qaeda and affiliates around world.

Stupid healthcare question. pfft. Progress! Nothing to read, bitches! Futile attempts to repeal. Stupid GOP. This was passed by Congress, signed by preznit, and upheld by SCOTUS. Everyone loves it. shutupshutupshutup Ya, know, Congress needs to assist in implementation. Everyone wins! pfft

Runs off with poo down leg. Brown noser in pool wishes preznit best wishes. Nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 02:50 PM (baL2B)

158 “Access is a very serious consideration when it comes to stories that could adversely impact a show, correspondent, or network’s relationship with the administration, a campaign, or any political leader,” one source with insider information told Mediaite.


Saddam Hussein Obama.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 02:50 PM (mukPq)

159 I mean, if he has teeth, that's cool. I'd just like confirmation that he does.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:50 PM (C+qQ0)

160 1 IS there anything more valueless than a Jay Carney Press Conference?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 05, 2013 02:15 PM (xjpRj)






Ahem

Posted by: SCOAMF Embassy Security at August 05, 2013 02:51 PM (TIIx5)

161 He has left office. I'm sure there wouldn't be any fall out to Frank if he finally came clean...

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:51 PM (C+qQ0)

162 MSM reporters, especially the White House crowd, are gutless bastards.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 02:51 PM (9Xc5j)

163 complete embargo. No one is asking about the CNN story.

Total. F'n'. Embargo.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2013 02:43 PM (/IWYB)


Cause its no longer about news or stories or....facts...its about opinions and, more importantly, the right opinions.

Don't need facts to have the right opinion. Besides, the White House declared it was a phony scandal so, its said and done. Next, the media can start harping about how the Republicans are ignoring the middle class and the economy pursuing these phony scandals.

Besides, why ask Carney dick anyway......your never gonna get a straight answer. And even if the sonofabitch lies the media really won't care. He's one of them (Time magazine.....very important) so he is one of the courtierers (yea, I misspelled it....sue me).

In the words of Dr. Bones McCoy.."its dead, Ace". Media integrity is dead.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 05, 2013 02:51 PM (OWjjx)

164 ARod penalty announcement "moments away"....

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (ZshNr)

165 'The Recovery Summer' was stillborn... Though trace evidence at the accident scene opens up questions about the possible role of the Dr. Gosnell of Economics

Posted by: Adam Smith at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (Pr6hk)

166 I would think a real reporter would be able to make a story out of the fact that they are being denied access to the WH because they reported hard facts. That in and of itself would be a hell of a story.

Sure, it would cut down on access to the all important cocktail scene but I thought reporters were all about making sacrifices for the greater truth and all that bullshit.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (g1DWB)

167
I simply don't believe there ever was a "big significant already in place planned threat".

I do believe they will probably arrest another filmmaker.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (qM18f)

168 I don't care about the pot, the sex, the scandal.

I just want to know...Does Barney Frank have teeth.

Help us out, Jay Carney.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (C+qQ0)

169
“I would suggest it’s not an accident that those who have been given a lot of access to the president have generally been AWOL when it comes to stories that might reflect poorly on him,” the source, who did not wish to be identified, continued. “It’s the name of the game. And it’s bad for everyone trying to do this job the right way.”

------------

So it's not THE MEDIA's fault that they aren't pursuing stories the way they should be done. Nope, it's just "the game."

Odd that "the game" didn't preclude them from ginning up phony scandals about George W. Bush's TANG service.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (tVWQB)

170 Hey baby, I got your access right here.

Posted by: Bob Filner, Enrollee, Sensitivity Training Centers of Cleveland at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (8ZskC)

171 That CNN revelation happened a long time ago.

So... you know.

Posted by: Jay Carney at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (tWmgi)

172 162
MSM reporters, especially the White House crowd, are gutless bastards.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 02:51 PM (9Xc5j)

No, they perceive it as their job to blow Obama and make sure nothing bad is ever said about Democrats, and especially Obama. This despite the fact that he shits on them every day.
They seem to love Cleavland Steamers from Obama/

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (lZvxr)

173 Carney barker is the EPITOME of a mewling quim.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (4df7R)

174 O/T but you're fired. You are all fired for not telling me that NFL QBs on Facebook started back up.


http://bit.ly/17tAOmf


Fired with the fire of raging umm fireness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (VtjlW)

175 I'm not sayin' Barney Frank DOESN'T have teeth. It's just never been confirmed either way.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (C+qQ0)

176 Hey, how bad can it get. At least the Obama administration isn't sending journalists to the gulag or prison or off behind the chemical shed to be shot.

What's the problem here?

Posted by: Fyodor Apparatick at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (TWFjQ)

177 No, they perceive it as their job to blow Obama and make sure nothing bad is ever said about Democrats, and especially Obama. This despite the fact that he shits on them every day.
They seem to love Cleavland Steamers from Obama/
Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (lZvxr)

OK gutless bastards with no self respect

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM (9Xc5j)

178 Nood up

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 02:54 PM (xorT2)

179 Does Barney Frank's refusal to comment about his incisors, or lack there of indicate some sort of cover up?

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:54 PM (C+qQ0)

180 Didn't we more or less surmise this back around 2007 or so when the dems took over congress? And this is news?

Posted by: Soona at August 05, 2013 02:54 PM (L1mcu)

181 I just prefer not to use Polident so I can make quick transitions

Posted by: Bwarney Fwank at August 05, 2013 02:54 PM (Pr6hk)

182 >I thought reporters were all about making sacrifices for the greater truth and all that bullshit.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2013 02:52 PM (g1DWB)

that's only operable when a Republican is President

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 05, 2013 02:56 PM (8sCoq)

183 "175
I'm not sayin' Barney Frank DOESN'T have teeth. It's just never been confirmed either way.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:53 PM"

Judging by the way he talks, it's hard to tell.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2013 02:56 PM (knoK7)

184 We must have discipline here!
Fortunately, the White House press has long since absorbed the instructions from TFG on reporting:
"We must have discipline here, and everyone mustkeep silent. It is my duty to speak here tonight."
http://bit.ly/1enShAc

Posted by: Fidel at August 05, 2013 02:56 PM (B5y+v)

185 Ya know, CNN, it didn't exactly kill off Fox News when they were denied access.

It's a point you might ponder, you chickenshitweasels.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 05, 2013 02:56 PM (ccXZP)

186 "One reporter is badgering Carney a bit about whether the Al Qaeda "core" is "on the path to defeat," as Obama loves to say. Carney is insistent that the Al Qaeda "core," which is the Afghanistan/Pakistan branch, is "on the path to defeat.""

Afghanistan/Pakistan branch? In that case, how 'bout asking Carney if the AQ/Taliban "core" is on the path to defeat. I'm sure that would require a 'nuanced' answer. WORD GAMES R US 24/7/365 at the White House. Double-speak, triple speak, no speak, hide 'n seek, Little Bo Peep speak, pipsqueek.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2013 02:58 PM (HjPtV)

187 Loss of "access" is an empty threat.

If they switched just 20% of their news programming timeslots to rumor/speculative (but not completely outlandish Batboy shit) theme programming, viewership would spike up dramatically...and they'd have their access back in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Purp at August 05, 2013 02:58 PM (O8LFP)

188 MLB handing out more punishments than the IRS, ATF and State Department combined.

Posted by: CDR M at August 05, 2013 02:58 PM (cqZXM)

189
White House Press Release: Some good news on the economic front. The latest jobs report shows that Al Qaeda added 123,000 new positions in June, seasonally adjusted. Unemployment rates in Yemen and the Saudi Peninsula are the lowest in 17 months.


Unexpectedly...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon aka Dr. Who, What, Where, Why and When at August 05, 2013 02:59 PM (pxDth)

190 Wait. Wasn't it CNN that didn't ask Saddam Hussein any tough questions in order to "maintain access [to the propoganda]"? The parallels just write themselves.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 05, 2013 03:00 PM (X/+QT)

191 And those are full time jobs too.

Posted by: CDR M at August 05, 2013 03:01 PM (y67bA)

192 AQ -- Obama promised shovel ready, we deliver.

Posted by: Purp at August 05, 2013 03:01 PM (O8LFP)

193 What embassy do we have in DeFeat? Must be a former French colony, right?

Posted by: Joe at August 05, 2013 03:01 PM (TQaK3)

194 Of course. On the path. To defeat. Shortly. Almost there. Real soon now.

I got sobriety on the ropes, baby!

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Seroquel Embiggins No Penis) at August 05, 2013 03:01 PM (jopHG)

195 OT: Firearms bleg:

Trying to decide on a new pump shotgun. My old High Standard (in riot gun configuration) is a wonderful piece but is deserving of an honorable retirement. Replacement parts would be an issue so I don"t practice with it much any more.

The Ithaca M37 Defense model is a sentimental favorite 'cause I had one issued back when I was a young Marine. Powerful medicine against the pterodactyls that were a constant threat in those days.

The Remington 870 is the other choice. I had one, years ago, and don't remember why I sold it. I put a lot of rounds through her and she never balked a single time. I understand Remington went through some QC problems a few years ago But seem to have gotten it sorted out.

I haven't had any experience with the "new" Ithaca or recent Remington products. Quality of either is an unknown but both designs are timeless Opinions? Price (I know the Ithaca goes dear) is not a huge issue.

Posted by: Department of Redundancy Department at August 05, 2013 03:04 PM (ymovd)

196 I'm on the path to scoring with Brooke d'Orsay!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 05, 2013 03:04 PM (uYaYO)

197 CNN’s Decision Sparks Media Debate April 17, 2003
Chief News Executive Eason Jordan’s admission that CNN withheld information about torture in the Iraqi regime to protect innocent people opens heated journalism ethics debate.
Cable News Network chief news executive Eason Jordan’s recent admission that he withheld information about how Iraqi officials intimidated and tortured Iraqis who had helped CNN over the past decade has opened up a heated debate about journalism ethics.
Jordan wrote about the situation in an op-ed. In the article, Jordan said that he traveled to the Iraqi capital 13 times to talk government officials into keeping the CNN bureau there open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders.
CNN withheld information about torture in Iraq regime

http://is.gd/hHenJ9

Business as usual for the palace minstrels, then and now.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 03:05 PM (mukPq)

198 Fox News is a joke. No wonder why the Left spends every waking moment reminding the population of its existence.

Posted by: Shoot Me at August 05, 2013 03:06 PM (qiXMt)

199
Department of Redundancy Department at August 05, 2013 03:04 PM (ymovd)

I have an old(er) Ithaca 10 ga semiauto that is built like a tank...I have no qualms about anything made by Ithaca.

I also have a Remington 870, and again it's rock solid.

As you say, Ithacas are not inexpensive. Were it me I'd probably grab the 870 if I absolutely had to have just one shotgun.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 05, 2013 03:07 PM (tVWQB)

200 @195

Go with the 870 best most reliable in the world.

Barring that, wilson combat makes the next best shotguns.

Posted by: kreplach at August 05, 2013 03:09 PM (sRsX7)

201 Didn't the Weekly Standard just do a piece on this and show that as far back as last May teh CIA had sent a letter to all who were in Benghazi that gave full permission to testify before Congress? since many of those who were there were CIA contractors that had been SEALs or Special Force operators I would asume taht they all would have the guts to do whatever they wanted. But some appaerently feeel that these ex-military just do not have enough honor to tell the truth.

Posted by: occam at August 05, 2013 03:09 PM (fbUla)

202 See, the press's highest calling is to protect victims.

The World's Most Powerful Man, the American President, is a victim of hateful America. Thus, the press's must fulfill their duty and protect him.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2013 03:10 PM (sGtp+)

203 http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=342262#c20998815
Check out the H&R Pardner Pumb, a clone of the Remington 870. Solid as hell, and inexpensive. I swa one yesterday at Walmart for $179. Brother in law owns one and says good things about it. Nice review here, too: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/12/ralph/gun-review-hr-1871-pardner-pump-protector-12-gauge/

Posted by: kalel666 at August 05, 2013 03:10 PM (gSqI7)

204 @195
Try this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/prx8j4l

Posted by: Gem State-visiting Moron at August 05, 2013 03:11 PM (sAicm)

205 I had a chance to talk to some Obama knob gobblers. All yungins.

I thanked them all for paying for my old person health care. I also asked about how their job searches were going and commiserating and talking about how there was company folks asking me to work for them before I even graduated. Even though I pulled a solid 2.3 GPA. Ah good times back then.

I also taught them that Don't Worry Be Happy Song.

Because I'm a dick, that's why.




Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Seroquel Embiggins No Penis) at August 05, 2013 03:12 PM (jopHG)

206 ARod penalty announcement "moments away"....

Spare a rod, spoil the child. That's what I say.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Seroquel Embiggins No Penis) at August 05, 2013 03:13 PM (jopHG)

207 Terrified that someone like Joey Choo-Choo is actually entrusted with classified national security responsibilities and innocent lives at stake.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 02:46 PM (gqT4g)


Amazing that the Libs, who wanted us to believe Reagan was a doddering, dangerous idiot, went right out and elected a doddering, dangerous idiot to serve one heartbeat away from the Presidency.

And Quayle misspelled potato!!!1!!

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at August 05, 2013 03:15 PM (/lWM8)

208 "Try this?
"website"
::::::::::::::::::::::::

Yeah, I'll take two! But, without even looking, I'll go out on a limb and say that my betters in the NYS legislature have determined that ownership of such a device is not in my best interest. They're only looking out for me, I'm sure.

Posted by: Department of Redundancy Department at August 05, 2013 03:16 PM (ymovd)

209 161 He has left office. I'm sure there wouldn't be any fall out to Frank if he finally came clean...
Posted by: Taco Shack at August 05, 2013 02:51 PM (C+qQ0)


I don't think coming clean is how Frank does it.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at August 05, 2013 03:21 PM (/lWM8)

210 I don't get it. Why would you be afraid of losing "access" if the "access" doesn't allow you to ask the questions that are, you know, like, YOUR JOB?

If any of the nutbar random killers like this jerk at Venice Beach or the kook at Aurora had just wandered into a newsroom instead, they would gain a lot of sympathy.

Posted by: Adjoran at August 05, 2013 03:23 PM (473jB)

211 Obama, in the Oval Office, with Obamacare.

Posted by: Winning solution to Clue: The National Edition at August 05, 2013 03:24 PM (/lWM8)

212 If only The Daily Caller intern had been there...standing amid the WH press corpses in order to be heard....

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 03:28 PM (rznx3)

213 "203
http://minx.cc/?blog=86post=342262#c20998815

Check out the HR Pardner Pumb, a clone of the Remington 870.
Solid as hell, and inexpensive. I swa one yesterday at Walmart for $179.
Brother in law owns one and says good things about it."
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I've reached the age where I have just about everything I need, and most of what I want. So saving a C-note on a home defense arm is not in the picture. Plus, US made and/or NY manufactured beats Chinese any day of the year. Even at a price premium.

For the youngsters to consider: I did a lot of gun trading back in the day. Something interesting would catch my eye and I'd sell or trade a gun to get it. I was frequently disappointed. In the long run, I was a net loser. *Sometime, I'll tell you about the handsome profit I made on a really nice '03 Springfield rifle that I sold for $125.00.*

Now I only buy a gun that I intend to keep forever.

Posted by: Department of Redundancy Department at August 05, 2013 03:31 PM (ymovd)

214 MFM (delenda est) are fucking cowards and betray their so-called principles on a daily basis.

Getting kicked out of WH briefings for asking tough questions should be a badge of honor, you simpering fucknozzles.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 05, 2013 03:37 PM (qyfb5)

215 At least Glenn Greenwald has balls.

Posted by: Ratzo at August 05, 2013 03:49 PM (K25Ot)

216
Well, Saddam Hussein's threatening to withhold access turned CNN into his PR agency. Why wouldn't Obama do likewise?

Posted by: Brown Line at August 05, 2013 04:01 PM (VrNoa)

217 "Can you imagine what a different place we would be in if these so called
reporters were as diligent about covering the Obama WH as they were the
Bush WH? No way would this grifter had a second term."

No way the fucker would have even been elected to a FIRST term ... or completed it.

But we have rumpswab apologists, as Howie Carr would say.

Posted by: acethepug at August 05, 2013 05:50 PM (4kvfA)

218 "Those reporters have reason to fear for their access to America’s
executive branch. Some suspect that reporters who soft-pedal or
underreport stories uncomfortable to the administration receive
preferential access to White House officials."

These people aren't journalists.

They're dick-suckers, plain and simple.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 05, 2013 10:36 PM (Cn4aq)

219 Yeah, so much for that whole freedom of the press thingy. While we have the appearance of a free press, we do not, in fact, have a free press.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at August 06, 2013 12:39 AM (2/oBD)






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