Red State? Wine On the Verge of Overtaking Beer in America

Meh.

Beer smells like a sock and makes you pee every hour. #RINO

Young adult drinkers’ alcoholic beverage preferences have changed dramatically over the past two decades. In the early 1990s, 71% of adults under age 30 said they drank beer most often; now it is 41% among that age group. There has been a much smaller decline in the percentage of 30- to 49-year-olds who say they drink beer the most, from 48% to 43%, with essentially no change in older drinkers’ beer preference.

Plus beer has all that excess water in it. If I'm gonna give my kidneys a workout, I'm gonna give them a proper workout. No hydration for you, kidneys. You find a way to catalyze that poison without water. Toughlove, baby.

Posted by: Ace at 06:35 PM



Comments

1 let it burn

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 01, 2013 06:36 PM (8JJ6O)

2 First? Really?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 01, 2013 06:38 PM (P7hip)

3 At the same time there has been an absolute renaissance in craft brewing. So while we may be drinking less beer, the beer we are drinking is orders of magnitude better than it was just 10-20 years ago.

It's something i'm going to sorely miss in the coming dark ages.

Posted by: mongo78 at August 01, 2013 06:38 PM (vgXTT)

4 Aw damn.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 01, 2013 06:38 PM (P7hip)

5 More so to LIQUOR the study shows...

Shots, and Martinis... Cosmos and such...

That's what I see young folks drinking in the bars...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 01, 2013 06:39 PM (lZBBB)

6 I don't always choose to drink wine, but when I do, I prefer to drink Night Train.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Moron In The World at August 01, 2013 06:39 PM (8ZskC)

7 Not a big fan of the tannins in wine.

Much prefer a well made beer. The flavors are often more subtle and more varied.

Doesn't matter much to the horde since the val-u-rite trumps them both...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 01, 2013 06:39 PM (XvHmy)

8 >>>At the same time there has been an absolute renaissance in craft brewing

easily explained: People don't like quality because they're stupid.


Posted by: ace at August 01, 2013 06:40 PM (/IWYB)

9 We are status monkeys. Changes in alcohol choice are just a manifestation of that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 01, 2013 06:41 PM (ZPrif)

10 Posted by: ace at August 01, 2013 06:40 PM (/IWYB)

Uhhh... he said Renaissance.... not Recession....

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 01, 2013 06:41 PM (lZBBB)

11 What does it matter?

Posted by: I ain't drunk no hows. at August 01, 2013 06:42 PM (hemD9)

12 This gives me a sad.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at August 01, 2013 06:42 PM (hO8IJ)

13 What little drinkin' I did I've given up. My beer preferences will now remain etched in stone for the rest of time for the sake of polling purposes. Those lucky brewers.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 01, 2013 06:43 PM (eHIJJ)

14 7
Not a big fan of the tannins in wine.


Wine comes in white now.

Posted by: Splunge at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (bKA83)

15 And yet...., it is going the other way in France. The world turned upside down.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (aDwsi)

16 Meh, I dislike both of them.
Scotch or Tequila, please.

Posted by: mrshad at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (Xqfwb)

17 "You have obviously mistaken me for some sort of wine sipping communist dick suck".
Generation Kill

Posted by: DPR VIII at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (xmM4q)

18 Just another way we're becoming France (or Italy, or Greece, or Spain).

Fuck it - it's time for some Jack Daniels.

Posted by: steveegg at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (o44nj)

19 Mocking alcohol choice is covered in Plonking 201.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (ZPrif)

20 How is peppermint schapps doing for popularity?

Posted by: fluffy at August 01, 2013 06:45 PM (z9HTb)

21
Balcony railings are never never never meant to be sat on, whether they be on the 2nd floor or the 17th.

http://goo.gl/8h0XRZ

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 06:45 PM (tCBZk)

22 And yet...., it is going the other way in France. The world turned upside down.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:44 PM (aDwsi)


Because wine is too fucking expensive for what it does.

Posted by: steveegg at August 01, 2013 06:45 PM (o44nj)

23 >>>At the same time there has been an absolute renaissance in craft brewing

easily explained: People don't like quality because they're stupid.


I dunno. You can still buy 30-packs of Natural Light, so the low-quality crap is still plentiful.

There is also a political angle - the great Progressive experiment that was Prohibition destroyed thousands of small American brewers. It wasn't until the regulatory regime was relaxed in the late 1970's that craft brewing started coming back.

Posted by: mongo78 at August 01, 2013 06:45 PM (vgXTT)

24 I wouldn't do this for just anyone, but for the horde, here are reviews of the choicest of hobo wines: http://www.bumwine.com/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:46 PM (aDwsi)

25 If you don't drink sterno, you're a fag.

Posted by: zsasz at August 01, 2013 06:46 PM (MMC8r)

26 1.) You lie!

2.) I guess I have my work cut out for me. So do I dedicate myself to the promotion and consumption of Leinenkugel, Shiner, or Dogfish Head?

3.) There is always the option of the boilermaker. I can say that Sierra Nevada with a shot of gin, Shiner Bock with aged tequila, or Yuengling with whiskey are all excellent choices.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at August 01, 2013 06:46 PM (aozUR)

27 Whatever happened to the good old days of .... Irish whiskey?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 01, 2013 06:47 PM (n8LUb)

28 Wine comes in white now.

There's a raaaaacism accusation in here somewhere, I can feel it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at August 01, 2013 06:47 PM (hO8IJ)

29
If you have a garage or a basement, you should be making your own beer.

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 06:47 PM (tCBZk)

30 If you don't drink sterno, you're a fag.

Posted by: zsasz at August 01, 2013 06:46 PM (MMC8r)

Everclear or GTFO.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at August 01, 2013 06:47 PM (aozUR)

31
Surprising. With the craft beer movement, there's never been a better time to be a beer drinker.

Posted by: Warden at August 01, 2013 06:48 PM (HzhBE)

32 Beer? Wine? Fuck that noise. The way the nation is headed, Everclear and animal trank enemas are the ticket.

Posted by: George Orwell, the least interesting commenter in the world at August 01, 2013 06:48 PM (xDqmM)

33
Plus, if you brew it at home, you can brew it by the keg. Wouldn't you like a keg of icey cold moron beer always on tap?


Mmmmm....Moron Beer!

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 06:49 PM (tCBZk)

34 Whatever happened to the good old days of .... Irish whiskey?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
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My every encounter with Old Bushmills has ended in some bizarre, and often embarrassing, situation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:49 PM (aDwsi)

35 3 At the same time there has been an absolute renaissance in craft brewing. So while we may be drinking less beer, the beer we are drinking is orders of magnitude better than it was just 10-20 years ago.

It's something i'm going to sorely miss in the coming dark ages.
Posted by: mongo78
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It's so easy to home brew that it's hard to imagine paying for swill. What the hell, given an assortment of good whiskey, i wouldn'really miss beer all that much.

Posted by: Rufus. T. Firefly at August 01, 2013 06:49 PM (aOnaK)

36 I NEED beer with certain things, especially raw oysters, hot wings, steamed MD crabs, & Mexican food. And on any hot day, beer is infinitely more refreshing than any other drink.

But I like wine, too.

Posted by: Y-not at August 01, 2013 06:49 PM (5H6zj)

37
I NEED beer with certain things,....
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Whores from Peruvia come to mind...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi)

38
Wine comes in white now.

There's a raaaaacism accusation in here somewhere, I can feel it.
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Only if the Native Americans start complaining.

Posted by: junior at August 01, 2013 06:51 PM (UWFpX)

39
Red wines are cool for most of the year, beer in the summer (I've been drinking Firestone 805 lately).

White wine makes me want to watch Ingmar Bergman films, wear black turtleneck sweaters, quote Kierkegaard, and stick out my pinkie when I tipple.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 01, 2013 06:51 PM (TIIx5)

40 There's nothin' as fine as toilet wine.

Posted by: The Guys in Cell Block D at August 01, 2013 06:51 PM (MMC8r)

41 Fuckin hipster kids..get off my lawn!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 01, 2013 06:51 PM (hl24d)

42 There are now wineries in every state.
Small ones...but still, it's made wine more available than ever before.

Maybe this has something to do with these statistics?

Many wines have a higher alcohol content than beer.
This could also have something to do with it.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2013 06:51 PM (weSmW)

43 I have been reading of ways to inhale alcohol. I guess the kids dig it these days. It gives a faster buzz for less sauce.

I know what I am doing this weekend.

Posted by: mrshad at August 01, 2013 06:52 PM (Xqfwb)

44 I've always hated beer. I was told that once I went to college my tastes would age (back them you could drink at 1 and I would grow to like it. 30 years later I still don't.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (iQit/)

45 Everyone knows only the finest of whines are imported from Peruvia. The best wines, OTOH, come from California.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (QyeW7)

46 I haven't been drinking much lately. I usually just feel bloated and tired. I like a good buzz (the "warm spot," as I call it) but I haven't been able to find it lately.

Posted by: TK-421 at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (8LCi0)

47 >>40 There's nothin' as fine as toilet wine.

Hey, watch out for the teeth I'm growing in there!

Posted by: Mad Scientists at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (5H6zj)

48
Real morons brew Pruno.

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (tCBZk)

49 What are we, goat piss?

Posted by: Val-U-Rite Vodka at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (o44nj)

50 Make that "eighteen"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (iQit/)

51 White Port and Lemon Juice really tastes good to me.

Posted by: Rufus. T. Firefly at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (aOnaK)

52 easily explained: People don't like quality because they're stupid.


Posted by: ace at August 01, 2013 06:40 PM (/IWYB)


Explains Obama's election and re-election.

Posted by: Tami at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM (X6akg)

53
You should really give Pruno a shot so if you end up in prison, you'll already know how to make it and you will be the most popular gal or guy on the prison block.

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 06:54 PM (tCBZk)

54 Good. More beer for me!

Posted by: Buzzion at August 01, 2013 06:54 PM (7/EiA)

55 <i>Everclear or GTFO.


Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes)</i>

If I could get the real thing, and not the crippled 151 Proof Everclear, I'd be doing a lot better with my jello shots and Cowboy Punch.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at August 01, 2013 06:55 PM (QyeW7)

56
I like beer better, but wine gives me a far better buzz--nice and warm and happy.
Hard liquor, on the other hand, makes me mean. I stay away from it for the most part.

Posted by: Warden at August 01, 2013 06:55 PM (HzhBE)

57 I have been reading of ways to inhale alcohol.

Today one of my cow-orkers was telling of a research study he volunteered for in kollij where he was given intravenous alcohol and asked to perform cognitive tasks while his brain was scanned.

Half my cow-orkers were "sign me up!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at August 01, 2013 06:56 PM (hO8IJ)

58 Red wines are cool for most of the year, beer in the summer (I've been drinking Firestone 805 lately).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 01, 2013 06:51 PM (TIIx5)


There are plenty of spiced, heavy, and flavorful beers that are perfect for winter.

Of course, I prefer to make wassail during the winter that involved both brown ale and madiera wine (as well as spices, et al.).

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat at August 01, 2013 06:56 PM (XvHmy)

59 Surprising. With the craft beer movement, there's never been a better time to be a beer drinker.


Posted by: Warden at August 01, 2013 06:48 PM (HzhBE)


You beat me to it; my German friend says that with the exception of Belgium, the US is where the best beer in the world is being brewed now. Domestic wines have come a very long way as well. Also wimmenz lushes, which have probably increased in number greatly, definitely prefer the grape.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 01, 2013 06:56 PM (aIcsS)

60 Wouldn't you like a keg of icey cold moron beer always on tap?

I think that given a choice, the bulk of the Horde would opt for a moronette always on tap.

Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 01, 2013 06:56 PM (hoXtT)

61 I don't always drink beer ...

But when I do, I punch out pretentious hipster nancy boys who drink wine

Posted by: The Most Interesting Man in the World at August 01, 2013 06:56 PM (/9IC1)

62 Wine is for f@gs.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 01, 2013 06:56 PM (v1mq9)

63 Drank

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:57 PM (aDwsi)

64
I don't always drink beer ...

But when I do, I punch out pretentious hipster nancy boys who drink wine
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Almost certainly the thread winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 01, 2013 06:57 PM (aDwsi)

65
How is peppermint schapps doing for popularity?

It enjoys increased popularity from time to time, followed by periods of violent projectile vomiting.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 01, 2013 06:57 PM (qoQi/)

66 If I could get the real thing, and not the crippled
151 Proof Everclear, I'd be doing a lot better with my jello shots and
Cowboy Punch.


Posted by: Smokey Behr at August 01, 2013 06:55 PM (QyeW7)

Eh, that stuff still works well enough for making frozen drinks, AKA Alky Slurpees.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at August 01, 2013 06:58 PM (aozUR)

67
Sooo, what is Zima?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 01, 2013 06:58 PM (0HooB)

68 @1 if you let it burn, sounds like the clap, why does it hurt when I pee? My balls feel like a pair of moracas

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at August 01, 2013 06:58 PM (HVff2)

69 Real morons brew Pruno.

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner!

What do you think I make my fruit brandy from?

Posted by: Smokey Behr at August 01, 2013 06:58 PM (QyeW7)

70 46
I haven't been drinking much lately. I usually just feel bloated and
tired. I like a good buzz (the "warm spot," as I call it) but I haven't
been able to find it lately.


Posted by: TK-421 at August 01, 2013 06:53 PM

I have some extra flour

Posted by: Meggie McBoobs at August 01, 2013 06:58 PM (/9IC1)

71 If you don't drink sterno, you're a fag.
Posted by: zsasz at August 01, 2013 06:46 PM
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Neanderthal.

Posted by: Snooty Purell Aficionado at August 01, 2013 06:58 PM (DtNNC)

72 I love beer. Always have, always will. Perfect beverage.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 01, 2013 06:59 PM (ZshNr)

73 I'll tell ya who drinks wine : hippies and tricksters.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 01, 2013 06:59 PM (v1mq9)

74 Wine makes you barf. Beer only makes you barf if the bloody Aussies forget to strain off the sediment in the garage.

Posted by: wth at August 01, 2013 06:59 PM (wAQA5)

75 I have some extra flour


He said "warm spot" not "wet spot"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 01, 2013 06:59 PM (hoXtT)

76 You got this from Tepid Air?

Sheesh...I didn't think Poppin' Fresh would ever let his puffy li'l lips touch liquor. I'd expect him to be more interested in the virtues of Chee-Tos over Cheez Doodles.

Wine is for chi-chi dinner parties, and beer is for...well...I dunno what beer is for.

Imma stick with Jack. On festive occasions, gin, Bushmills or tequila.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2013 07:00 PM (/RIVS)

77 My own observations reveal that the youngsters (at least the ones in my family) are going for Jack Daniels over either beer or wine. So there's that.

Posted by: BuckIV at August 01, 2013 07:00 PM (gedHR)

78 59...Also wimmenz lushes, which have probably increased in number greatly, definitely prefer the grape.

Wine has a lot fewer calories than beer.
And also, beer can cause 'water weight'...especially at certain times of the month.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2013 07:00 PM (weSmW)

79
I saw some documentary on medieval times. They had a bucket of grain and poured hot water on it. A day later, they had their strong beer. They poured another bucket of hot water on the same grain and let it brew and they had their every day beer. The third time they did it, it was children's beer. Now the day one beer was reputed to be strong. If it is this fucking easy, why aren't we making our own beer this way at home?

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 07:00 PM (tCBZk)

80 Imagine a room full of bearded men singing rough drinking songs while banging on the table with their glasses of wine.

I rest my case.

Posted by: TenthJustice at August 01, 2013 07:01 PM (LYzGP)

81 Jaegermeister. Whoo hooo! Yeah!!!!!!!

Posted by: Waldo Phownd at August 01, 2013 07:01 PM (aOnaK)

82 Sooo, what is Zima?

Defunct.

Viva Adam Smith's invisible hand!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at August 01, 2013 07:02 PM (hO8IJ)

83 I know a guy who has a whinery, yes I said whinery, he is a fat gubmint retired union sucking weasel, hell I wouldn't drink his whine if Jesus himself made it. We subsidize his existence, arrgh

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at August 01, 2013 07:03 PM (HVff2)

84
Lynchburg Lemonade for the win.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 01, 2013 07:03 PM (0HooB)

85 One time in the PI I literally "pissed napalm" like Gunny Highway claimed to do in Heartbreak Ridge. Thankfully it was due to the Moron Lifestyle circa 1990 and not that Fillipina woman named Iza...

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at August 01, 2013 07:03 PM (Cjjf6)

86 Wine has a lot fewer calories than beer.

Yeah, but they're empty calories. Beer's full of vitamins and protein and stuff.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at August 01, 2013 07:03 PM (hO8IJ)

87
Sooo, what is Zima?

Metrosexual beer. I'm pretty sure stores wouldn't even sell it to you unless you were wearing a stylish fag bag that matched your shoes.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 01, 2013 07:04 PM (qoQi/)

88 SMOD!!!!!!!!!!!! *rage twitch rage*

Traytable's hoodie might go to a new part of the Smithsonian dedicated to African-American history and culture. No word if Arizona ice tea, Skittles, and other examples of thug life will be displayed.

http://tinyurl.com/m89mhsu

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (ZLyB4)

89
I saw some documentary on medieval times. They had a bucket of grain and poured hot water on it. A day later, they had their strong beer. They poured another bucket of hot water on the same grain and let it brew and they had their every day beer. The third time they did it, it was children's beer. Now the day one beer was reputed to be strong. If it is this fucking easy, why aren't we making our own beer this way at home?

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner!



Not a chance in hell this is correct. Yeast takes at least 10 days for a significant % of the sugars to be converted. Further the grain has to be malted for the sugars to be present. Malting takes at least a day.

And some of us do make our own. It's not a cheap as you might imagine but you can make good quality quaff if you pay careful attention to what you are doing IE clean and sterilize everything used in the production.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (NCyJy)

90 How beer is made:

In the Rockies, there's a snow-capped mountain. In the spring, the snow melts and cool, crisp water flows down and forms a stream. And there's a mountain man walking by the stream. He hunts bears and kills them with his bare hands. He gets thirsty and decides to stop for a drink. He pulls out his canteen he made himself from the hides of animals better than you. He brings the canteen up to his lips and realizes he's out of whiskey.

He cries and then Budweiser comes along and bottles his tears.

Posted by: SmokeyBourbon at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (eb70/)

91 Our Corpsman had a jersey made with the name "DICKSMITH" on the back. When asked why he said " a locksmith works with locks.

Seems I got my bore punched for a severe case of dehydration.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (Cjjf6)

92 Maybe they've just got taste.

The problem is this: Trader Joe's redefined the wine market. Two-buck Chuck Shiraz or Merlot is perfectly drinkable.

By comparison, if you're gonna drink Bud or (gack) Coors you might as well drink your own urine with a club-soda chaser. The closest you can get to a tolerable, tolerably cheap beer is PBR, and most of the good stuff (e.g. Sierra Nevada) is gonna cost you $7.50 a six-pack around here, or more.

Posted by: Three-Fingers Filner at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (o+SC1)

93 If you ain't drinkin' Ripple, you're drinking wine made for rich sissies

Posted by: Fred Sanford at August 01, 2013 07:06 PM (/9IC1)

94
So, Colin Powell got his dick caught in some Romanian?

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 07:06 PM (tCBZk)

95 Got a hole in my sock

Posted by: JEM at August 01, 2013 07:06 PM (o+SC1)

96
Remember, you can always drink your pee. That's what saved the kid in San Diego.

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 07:06 PM (tCBZk)

97 Kate Upton, and her breasts, prefer beer : http://tinyurl.com/l2jpl88

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 01, 2013 07:07 PM (v1mq9)

98 I like cheap vodka. Tasteless, relatively odorless bottom shelf stuff. Why? Because I can't detect one lick of sulfates in it. Beer and wine make my nose run, my throat itch, and I have to cough to clear my throat at least once per minute.

I think that's natures way of telling you something's wrong. Earworm for you.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at August 01, 2013 07:07 PM (U2UQk)

99 And also, beer can cause 'water weight'...especially at certain times of the month.



Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2013 07:00 PM (weSmW)


That's just icky talk

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 01, 2013 07:07 PM (aIcsS)

100 @ 94 I heard it was Romaine

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC aboard Choo Choo Joeys at August 01, 2013 07:08 PM (Cjjf6)

101 @ #3.....

Learn to Homebrew, make better stuff than you can by and have a handy post-SHTF skill. Of course I can make wine or beer and might know distilling if needed; just in case I needed to trade or be valuable to a group.

Other posters are right, the quality of beer has increased dramaticly even if consumption overall is down, (this is true with mass-produced) stuff. I see beer consumption following the old European approach where local breweries survive over huge conglomerates such as InBev.

Posted by: ATLDiver at August 01, 2013 07:10 PM (4N7Kq)

102 Not a chance in hell this is correct. Yeast takes at least 10 days for a significant % of the sugars to be converted. Further the grain has to be malted for the sugars to be present. Malting takes at least a day.

And some of us do make our own. It's not a cheap as you might imagine but you can make good quality quaff if you pay careful attention to what you are doing IE clean and sterilize everything used in the production.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (NCyJy)


I'll see if I can find it again. I believe it was a Time Team show. I remember that to make sure it was the right temperature, you had to see your reflection in the water.

Posted by: Hands Off My Weiner! at August 01, 2013 07:10 PM (tCBZk)

103 There's nothing wrong with Budweiser, but Sam Adams Boston Lager is by far the best high end mass market beer out there. When you're on a boat or a beach or mowing the lawn, that's when you drink the Bud. When you're truly relaxing, you drink the Sam. Unless you're into all those Weisen beers and shit, then you're on our own. I never developed the taste for them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 01, 2013 07:11 PM (ZshNr)

104
Got a hole in my sock.

I've go' a 'ole in me pocket.

Posted by: Ringo Starr at August 01, 2013 07:11 PM (0HooB)

105 Three-Fingers Filner at August 01, 2013 07:05 PM (o+SC1)

Where in the h*ll do you live that you can get Sierra Nevada that cheap?!?!?

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at August 01, 2013 07:12 PM (u5LFV)

106
Nothing beats a cold draught Guinness.

Curiously, several places that once carried it no longer do. Like the tourist trap I play every Friday night. And the local Mart of Wals (who had the best price around).

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 01, 2013 07:15 PM (0HooB)

107 Damn you, Dr. Spank.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 01, 2013 07:16 PM (0HooB)

108 @104 quit yer bitchin' you stupid git, I've got a 'ole in me head

Posted by: Old puddin' head George Harrison at August 01, 2013 07:19 PM (Cjjf6)

109 There's nothing wrong with Budweiser

Whoa.


Whoa.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking heavily at August 01, 2013 07:22 PM (hO8IJ)

110 You can live on beer. Six weeks in Mexico every year for the last 3 decades I oughtta know. Just don't drink Tecate, unless you like the looks of that river.

Posted by: wth at August 01, 2013 07:22 PM (wAQA5)

111 @105 - It's routinely on sale around here (a bit south of Pelosiville) at $12.50/12-pack, a bit cheaper in the 24-case at Costco.

Beer prices move around a fair bit, for a while you could get Lagunitas IPA at Trader Joe's for under $7, but that's gone, Safeway used to price most of the good stuff around $9 but recently they cut a bunch of 'em a buck.

Posted by: JEM at August 01, 2013 07:23 PM (o+SC1)

112 @109 - "there's nothing wrong with Budweiser" evinces the level of judgment we've come to expect from climate scientists or the State Department.

Posted by: JEM at August 01, 2013 07:24 PM (o+SC1)

113 Speaking of drinking your own pee-

Horrible story of a student left in a windowless, toiletless DEA cell for four days without food or water in of all places...San Diego. He had hallucinations and kidney damage and tried to drink he own urine to survive. The he tried to commit suicide, Family sued for 20 millions settled for 4 million . He deserved MUCH more IMO

http://tinyurl.com/kvel9kl

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 01, 2013 07:27 PM (iQit/)

114 The thing that's interesting to me is how incredibly divergent peoples' opinions of beers are compared to of wine.

What I mean is, I can consult a wine rating and read some reviews of a wine and from that tell (1) how good it is (in terms of stability, length, body etc) and (2) how likely it is that I'll like it.

When I've tried reading beer reviews, the reviewers' opinions are wildly divergent, not just in terms of their personal taste but in how they rate the quality of the beer.

In general, I don't like the microbrews I've tried at pubs and restaurants who make their own beer. And unlike most wines which I almost always can drink whether I like it a lot or not (as long as they're properly made and not "off") I can't muddle through a beer I don't like. So it's hard for me to find new beers. Generally I'll taste whatever my husband is having since he's more adventurous about beers than I am.

Posted by: Y-not at August 01, 2013 07:28 PM (5H6zj)

115 When I've tried reading beer reviews, the reviewers'
opinions are wildly divergent, not just in terms of their personal
taste but in how they rate the quality of the beer.



In general, I don't like the microbrews I've tried at pubs and
restaurants who make their own beer. And unlike most wines which I
almost always can drink whether I like it a lot or not (as long as
they're properly made and not "off") I can't muddle through a beer I
don't like. So it's hard for me to find new beers. Generally I'll taste
whatever my husband is having since he's more adventurous about beers
than I am.

Posted by: Y-not at August 01, 2013 07:28 PM (5H6zj)


People have different tastes and sometime they just try a beer that isn't for them. For example, I don't go crazy over the really hoppy IPAs like a lot of people do but I enjoy a few of them, such as the Sierra Nevada Northern or Southern Hemisphere wet hop ales. I like beer with more malt in it, like Scottish ales or the Belgian ales, which I really love. I'm not a fan of stouts (absolutely hate Guiness) and barley ales are just too fucking strong (and should be named cortex wreckers). But I'm always open to experiment.The brewery which makes the best domestic beer imo is Ommegang in Cooperstown, New York; which I plan on visiting next year. I've been to Half Moon Bay brewery between Santa Cruz and San Francisco, Santa Cruz Mountain Brewery (didn't like their regular brews but their seasonals, including a brown ale, were just outstanding) and Great Lakes Brewery here in Cleveland (love a lot of the stuff they brew but don't sell outside the brewery; and their Oktoberfest is one of my faves). It's a great time to be a beer lover.


Posted by: Captain Hate at August 01, 2013 07:40 PM (aIcsS)

116 Reasonably priced Bourbon.

Posted by: Evan Williams at August 01, 2013 08:08 PM (2VZfT)

117 I drink wine more than beer. And by wine, I mean mead and sake (honey and rice wine). Because Vikings and Samurai and fuck you.

Other, more 'traditional' wines don't appease though, so I don't touch them with a 5000000 foot poll.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at August 01, 2013 08:16 PM (G99e4)

118 There's nothing wrong with Budweiser...

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 01, 2013 07:11 PM (ZshNr)


...that can't be solved by a drain.

Posted by: Val-U-Rite Vodka at August 01, 2013 09:15 PM (o44nj)

119 Whatever happened to the good old days of .... Irish whiskey?



Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn

________________________________


PADDY is sublime. The answer to Bourbon's cloyishness, and the overly-earthiness of Scotch. Best Irish Wiskey on the market, and I've had the Green Spot.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 01, 2013 09:25 PM (Nfpnr)

120 I would add, I was turned on to PADDY when I was a wee lad of 14, playing Irish Schoolboys' Rugby at a secondary boarding school in Dublin not to be named here. YMMV.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 01, 2013 09:28 PM (Nfpnr)

121 Pee every hour? That would be a nice break from peeing after every beer. TMI?

probably. sorry.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at August 01, 2013 09:49 PM (LsJAk)

122
Shots, and Martinis... Cosmos and such...

That's what I see young folks drinking in the bars...


Do you blame them? they have shitty jobs, many of them have shitty debts and/or debt collectors hounding them, many of them living at home or with roomies, and not much hope for any real change.

Teh Won, I lay this shit at your feet.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at August 02, 2013 09:36 AM (1hM1d)

123 I for one am happy about this development. This leaves more beer for me. Now if Lienenkugels would quit making foo foo beers and go back to Bock and Big Butt dopel bock life would be good.

Posted by: chicken thief at August 02, 2013 01:21 PM (QE320)






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