The Ghost of Stephen Glass Haunts the Halls of The New Republic But Mostly Just Offers Them Advice on How to Cook a Story

I could add this as a post-script to the last post, but it's sort of substantial and I don't want people to overlook it.

What we have on our hands is clear, inarguable evidence of partisan-driven bad faith on the part of The New Republic's writers and editors, and probably its super-liberal ideologue owner, too.

The New Republic demonstrated its commitment to dishonesty in its first stealth edit.

Here was their first claim about the 311 call about an unattended 7 year old boy wading out into traffic :

. . . Zimmerman was an edgy basket case with a gun who had called 911 46 times in 15 months, once to report the suspicious activities of a seven year old black boy.

Emphasis in original. Now, the facts came out, and they were not pretty for TNR:

[M]ost egregiously, Zimmerman’s call (to the non-emergency police number) regarding a seven-to-nine-year-old black boy was placed because Zimmerman was “concerned for [the] well being” of that child, who was walking unaccompanied on a busy street (see page 37).

At this point TNR knows it has the story wrong -- way wrong -- and we know that because they now endeavor to clean up their article with a stealth edit.

So this:

. . . Zimmerman was an edgy basket case with a gun who had called 911 46 times in 15 months, once to report the suspicious activities of a seven year old black boy.

Becomes this:

. . Zimmerman was an edgy basket case with a gun who had called the polics 46 times in 15 months, once to report on a seven year old black boy.

Emphases in original, except for that usefully-vague prepositional phrase "report on," which I highlighted myself to point out their game: Whereas before they had been rather specific (and false) about the call, now they seek to cover up the error by employing the very broad phrase "report on," which could mean a whole range of things, including, by design, their original false claim of reporting the suspicious activities of a seven year old.

Note well they do not change the sentence from a false one to a true one; instead, they merely edit it so they cannot be charged with explicitly saying that Zimmerman feared the criminal capacity of a seven year old black boy.

But they edit it in such a way that a reader is invited to draw that conclusion anyway -- a conclusion TNR now knows is false. They scrub the part where TNR makes a false statement in support of a false conclusion, but then are careful to leave the false conclusion alive in the minds of their dwindling readership.

Or, as the Faculty Lounge says:

TNR replaced "report the suspicious activities of a seven year old black boy" with "report on a seven year old black boy." The charitable characterization of this edit is that it is very, very lawyerly. Yes, the TNR piece no longer explicitly falsely claims that GZ called the police about a black boy because GZ found the child suspicious. But in the context of a paragraph meant to demonstrate that "[v]igilante justice . . . is especially menacing to minority racial groups who are often sterotyped as criminals," and in the absence of disclosing the benign (indeed, laudatory) reason why GZ did call police, the reporting of GZ's call about "a seven year old black boy" — complete with incredulity italics — strongly implies what the article only technically no longer says: that Zimmerman "reported on" a young black child because Zimmerman stereotyped that child as a criminal.

Now, there's one more wrinkle here: Now having stealth-corrected and deliberately attempted to keep a false conclusion alive and having been called on it, the New Republic simply deleted the reference entirely, again, in another stealth-edit. As The Faculty Lounge says:

Still, the most egregious error has been corrected: all traces of the seven-year-old boy are at last gone from the online pages of TNR (if not from the memories of however many people read the piece in the first 10 days of its existence).

Except that's not really a correction; that's simply a case of Destroying the Evidence.

Of course they persisted in not acknowledging the gross mischaracterization in the original piece. They wanted to ensure that anyone who had read and believed their original claims still believed those claims; they didn't want to correct the false impression they had given their readers.

All they wanted to do is to get people to stop noting that they were printing deliberate lies-- not dispel the lies with actual truth and confession of error.

Only now, after they have been repeatedly embarrassed by their deliberate fabrications, do they do what they should have done from the start:

State the actual facts truthfully, and confess their previous false reporting.

This is not the behavior of a magazine seeking to print the Truth. This is the behavior a magazine which has decided Stephen Glass was just a man ahead of his time.

The Faculty Lounge has further thoughts on the need for Truth in reporting, and in science, too, which you'd think would be rather obvious, but apparently the Magazine of Stephen Glass hasn't yet heard.

Posted by: Ace at 02:41 PM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at July 26, 2013 02:42 PM (/PCJa)

2 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at July 26, 2013 02:43 PM (/PCJa)

3 Also: close the blockquote tag.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at July 26, 2013 02:43 PM (/PCJa)

4 Ace starts off posting from inside the barrel

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 26, 2013 02:43 PM (ApiTO)

5

boxy is the new white-hispanic

Posted by: imp at July 26, 2013 02:43 PM (L9AnB)

6

Aw, man, that was too fast a correction. I was waiting for don't box me in" and "you're not really thinking outside the box here"

Posted by: imp at July 26, 2013 02:44 PM (L9AnB)

7 Stephen Glass' worst fault was that he got caught.

Posted by: TNR at July 26, 2013 02:45 PM (9/bcB)

8 They conclude with "a kid who had avoided a run-in with the law" which is also terribly misleading. His school district police was actively HIDING his criminal activity...but they knew about it.

And The first place his parents went looking for him when he didn't come home was the local Juvie Justice. I think he's had brushes with "the law" - and all the avoiding was on the law's side.

Posted by: Sarahw at July 26, 2013 02:46 PM (LYwCh)

9 What we said was true. It may not have been factually accurate, but it expressed the real truth the white-supremacist Republicans oppress downtrodden innocent black children...

Posted by: The New Republic at July 26, 2013 02:46 PM (XvHmy)

10 Excuse me but isn't the New Republic a liberal rag? If so, why do we expect them to tell the truth?

Posted by: Vic at July 26, 2013 02:47 PM (lZvxr)

11 Suspicious rants from the mostly White New Republic's Offices

Posted by: Katherine Harris at July 26, 2013 02:47 PM (e8kgV)

12 I believe the Guardian hasn't corrected it's story that pro Zimmerman supporters in Austin were carrying racist signs. They shut off comments as well.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 26, 2013 02:47 PM (v1mq9)

13 Let It Burn is the new stupid.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 26, 2013 02:48 PM (ZPrif)

14 How many people bother to read TNR?

Posted by: kathysaysso at July 26, 2013 02:48 PM (6H6o8)

15 A magazine I don't like did something I don't like. Time to wish for societal collapse.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 26, 2013 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

16 For the record, my legal name is not Carlos Danger.

Posted by: Tony Wiener at July 26, 2013 02:49 PM (3VBXw)

17 Suspicious rants from the mostly extreme New Republic Offices

Posted by: Katherine Harris at July 26, 2013 02:49 PM (e8kgV)

18 "[E]dgy basket case" claim immediately buttressed by wholesale lies and misrepresentation.

Now massage the latter under public duress yet retain the former descriptor. Facts? They don't need no stinkin' facts. Nope, no bias there. Just the facts, ma'am.

Keep dorking The Chicken, TNR. And the Middle Class. Just keep on dorkin'.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 26, 2013 02:49 PM (eHIJJ)

19
Why don't they all just give up the pretense and publish their periodical as a fiction writers' forum?

There is NO journalism taking place here - just suppositions made under the color of personal bias; if the writer assumes that the person they are writing about is a villain, then they will write/skew their article in such a way that the reader comes away with the same opinion.

Might as well bestaffed by Jacqueline Suzann, Nora Roberts,Robert James Waller, and Nicholas Sparks.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 26, 2013 02:50 PM (ADnWI)

20 Integrity? That's just the man keeping you down and stuff. who needs a reputation for honesty and stuff anyway when their's a greater truth to serve?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 26, 2013 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

21 *there's*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 26, 2013 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

22 Roll out the barrel.
We'll have a barrel of fun.
Roll out the barrel.
We've got unclosed tags on the run.
Zing. Boom. Tarrarel.
Sing out a song of good cheer.
Now's the time to roll the barrel.
For the Morons are all here!

Posted by: steveegg at July 26, 2013 02:50 PM (o44nj)

23 Stevie Boy Wonder's trick was to give the editors (and coauthors, like Chait) what they wanted to read. Mike Kelly *wanted* to read that young Republicans were cynics who abused women in their hotel rooms.

Chuck Lane's hand was forced when Forbes blew the lid of that last bullturd Glass slipped through the mailslot. Otherwise Glass would probably be managing the place now.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 26, 2013 02:50 PM (ApiTO)

24 Sue 'em, George. He's already got a team in place for NBC.

Posted by: Bud Norton at July 26, 2013 02:51 PM (6cOMd)

25 This is what you get when your first instinct is "Gentlemen, we've got to protect our phoney baloney jobs". Either that or 75% of an Obama speech.

Posted by: Joe at July 26, 2013 02:51 PM (9r3GM)

26 They stick to their narrative like a barnacle on a rotting ship.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2013 02:51 PM (GTpeb)

27 "How many people read TNR?"

I dunno. I don't find it very believable.

Posted by: bat boy at July 26, 2013 02:52 PM (ApiTO)

28 Our media seems to exist for the express purpose of figuring out which stories we shouldn't be told about.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 26, 2013 02:52 PM (xSegX)

29 14
How many people bother to read TNR?


Posted by: kathysaysso at July 26, 2013 02:48 PM (6H6o

--Ten years ago while I was in grad school I got an offer of free downloads of the digital version. Back then "free" was a big hook since it was paycheck -to-paycheck with TA money. It was interesting to read back then since it was a liberal magazine that went neo-con.

Posted by: logprof at July 26, 2013 02:52 PM (3VBXw)

30 Re: Stephen Glass. To much of a piece of shit to be a journalist, but he'd make a great lawyer!

Per the New York Times, which looks favorably (*surprise!*) upon the prospect of a Stephen Glass, Esq., if only the State Bar can get past its own old school hang-ups about ethics and let him in:

"It could be up to two years before his case is decided by the State
Supreme Court, I hear. Here’s hoping he wins. Yes, he once did terrible
things as a journalist. But that was a long time ago. The California Bar
should be so lucky as to have him as a member. "


The link is to the New York Times so don't click it unnecessarily:
http://tinyurl.com/mqq67eb

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 02:52 PM (8ZskC)

31 When was the last time TNR mentioned the Rose Law Firm billing records in an article about Hillary? Or futures trading? Or the White House Travel Office? Or Susan McDougal, or Jim Guy Tucker or Webb Hubbell, or Vince Foster?

Posted by: Vince Foster at July 26, 2013 02:53 PM (Pr6hk)

32 BTW, tying into Ace's new joke, Weiner's Twitter "About" is "A Fighter for the Middle Class and those Struggling to make it".

Capitalization is reproduced accurately, by the way.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 26, 2013 02:54 PM (B/VB5)

33 Stephen Glass' worst fault was that he got caught.


Posted by: TNR at July 26, 2013 02:45 PM (9/bcB)
Correction, Stephen Glass's problem was that he didn't blame a "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".Always double down on crazy. Always.

Posted by: General Custer at July 26, 2013 02:54 PM (rCS6C)

34 30 Re: Stephen Glass. To much of a piece of shit to be a journalist, but he'd make a great lawyer!

*Whistles*

Posted by: AmishDude at July 26, 2013 02:55 PM (xSegX)

35 As I pointed out before, we have that rara avis of "actual malice" that overcomes the "public figure" defense. Sue the shit out of them George!

Posted by: Trial Lawyer of 20+ Years Experience at July 26, 2013 02:55 PM (HEo6y)

36 It was interesting to read back then since it was a liberal magazine that went neo-con.

Yeah, Marty Peretz was still offering pro-Israel editorials from the left well after the rest of the American Left decided to go full goatfucker.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 26, 2013 02:55 PM (B/VB5)

37 Pr6hk - TNR ran a lot of Clinton-hate under, um, Andrew Sullivan. The rag was actually interesting then except for the ... hang on... *looks through the huge dictionary of TNR ethics violations*... the Ruth Shalit plagiarism

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 26, 2013 02:56 PM (ApiTO)

38 Oh...is this the layers and layers blah blah blah magazine?


That movie has that weird looking butterface chick
that I would hit.

Posted by: eleven at July 26, 2013 02:57 PM (fsLdt)

39 But the 18 minutes of empty tape!!1!!

Posted by: TNR at July 26, 2013 02:57 PM (Pr6hk)

40 They wanted to ensure that anyone who had read and believed their original claims still believed those claims; they didn't want to correct the false impression they had given their readers.

This sums up the way the Left handled the entire Zimmerman saga. As each facet of their stereotyped narrative was contradicted, they just marched on. Right through the verdict and beyond. The original false impression - racist white guy stalked and gunned down a black boy - is still the impression they give.

Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 02:57 PM (9KqcB)

41 Ace,
Come now, they're just reporting on their interpretation of the facts and letting their mindless readers draw their own conclusions.
The entire "magazine" is just one big editorial section right?
Oh wait, it purports to be actual news.
Well then!
Sadly however my staunch supporting of the first amendment means that I can't recommend the sorts of lawsuits that would be suitable punishment. I mean this is bad, but I'm not sure it defamation/libel/slander/whatever bad, largely because it does seem to be opinion. Admittedly poorly formed opinion, stupid opinion, naïve even. Still, not civilly actionable. And the effect of trying to use the law to correct it would be worse than allowing them to persist on the balance.
Having said that, I intend to meet speech with speech and mock them relentlessly.

Posted by: tsrblke at July 26, 2013 02:57 PM (GaqMa)

42 Posted by: AmishDude at July 26, 2013 02:55 PM (xSegX)


Take your best shot.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 02:58 PM (8ZskC)

43 All lies by TNR are "white" lies by default.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 26, 2013 02:58 PM (ndlFj)

44 Thats a lot of parcing Ace, couldn't we simply call them lying suckers of cock and get on with more moronic fare? Winnie Cooper's dirty little hard-rocker look is certainly more appropriate for a Friday afternoon.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 26, 2013 02:58 PM (jvd3N)

45 Don't all of you get too smug, now. We might just sell some super-duper spyware that we found to Mr. Glass so that he can snoop on you to get the last word.

Posted by: Jukt Micronics at July 26, 2013 02:58 PM (eHIJJ)

46 Come on TNR makes a GREAT bird cage liner!

Posted by: Narciso Evil at July 26, 2013 02:59 PM (xZ8Ay)

47 The original false impression - racist white guy stalked and gunned down a black boy - is still the impression they give.

This is exactly correct, CJ

It's been, frankly, amazing to watch.

And the amount of people still completely snookered by the false story is disheartening.

It's like an agit-prop ideal case study.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2013 02:59 PM (2up3Q)

48 The police report says Zimmerman was concerned for the safety of the boy. The TNR correction states it appears he was concerned. Appears?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 26, 2013 03:00 PM (C2//T)

49 Wasn't Stephen Glass the imaginary boy friend of Jan Brady?


Posted by: dananjcon at July 26, 2013 03:00 PM (jvd3N)

50 Apparently Holder is pinky swearing to the Russians that he promises the US won't torture or execute Snowden if they extradite him.

Holder: "Hooking a car battery up to someone's testicles isn't considered torture right?"

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at July 26, 2013 03:01 PM (ZWvOb)

51 From Wikipedia article on Stephen Glass, this quote describes TNR now, though it was originally aimed at Glass:

"The creep is doing it again. Even when it comes to reckoning with his own sins, he is still incapable of nonfiction. The careerism of his repentance is repulsively consistent with the careerism of his crimes."

Posted by: Leon Wieseltier at July 26, 2013 03:01 PM (ZuiHO)

52 Wasn't Stephen Glass the imaginary boy friend of Jan Brady?


Yep. Then he became an imaginary reporter.

Posted by: eleven at July 26, 2013 03:02 PM (fsLdt)

53 ZIMMERMAN PUSHED AN OLD LADY!!!11!
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.
.
.
(out of the way of a bus)

Posted by: TNR at July 26, 2013 03:02 PM (rcl6T)

54 Filthy Filner is giving a live statement shortly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:02 PM (lVPtV)

55 Heh, we should all get our state's AG's to see if TNR is violation truth in advertising laws by claiming to be "unbiased"
(Yes, I know that's just puffery, but seriously, what do AGs even do?)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 26, 2013 03:03 PM (GaqMa)

56 They used to have some worthwhile articles--circa 1992, which was the Era of Stevie WonderGlass. I can actually remember reading his totes fake piece on the Young Republicans at the RNC Convention--and thinking it was shite


shite it was; shite the magazine quickly completely became

Posted by: el Bernardo Blackamoor at July 26, 2013 03:03 PM (omBWL)

57 Winnie Cooper's dirty little hard-rocker look is certainly more appropriate for a Friday afternoon.

If for no other reason than her taste in men as evidenced by her ex-husband should give every moron hope. That guy has rolled his fair share of d-20s.

Posted by: Joe at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (9r3GM)

58 "TNR" Trotskiites Roses

Posted by: dananjcon at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (jvd3N)

59
Maybe this comment was made in the lower thread, but even their correction acknowledging the concern for the 7 year old child still is misleading in that they removed the word "black" for the child.

They just will not give Zimmerman any benefit at all.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (4+FWp)

60 Filner on.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (lVPtV)

61

Stephen Glass with a bucket full of Philip Glass.*


*especially the concert he composed that was 100% silence.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (IXrOn)

62 “Wrap your mind around no prom for Trayvon, no high school graduation for Trayvon … all because of a law — a law that has prevented the person who shot and killed my son (from) … paying for this awful crime,”

-Sybian Fulton



How there isn't #BecauseofaLaw trending is beyond me.

Posted by: RWC at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (fWAjv)

63
Ya know..... I am simply astounded that with all the MFM, Hollywood, the Entertainment Industry and The Press leaning almost horizontally left, that Republicans maintain a nearly 50-50 parity with Democrats in Presidential elections.

Can you imagine what our political landscape would look like if they took an impartial stance..... let alon a pro-conservative one.????

Posted by: fixerupper at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (nELVU)

64 "We regret the errors"*
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* By which we mean we regret getting caught

Posted by: TNR at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (I38YA)

65 We're still finding out that a lot of our writers mis-heard Andi Sullivain when he 'I love friction... the power-glutes need friction'

Posted by: TNR at July 26, 2013 03:05 PM (Pr6hk)

66 Someone tell TNR that they should be clear of white guilt by now so they don't need to make things up for their stories.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2013 03:05 PM (U+O64)

67 Filner on.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:04 PM (lVPtV)

----
Well push him off then report him!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at July 26, 2013 03:05 PM (nELVU)

68 54 Filthy Filner is giving a live statement shortly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:02 PM (lVPtV)

Therapy, but won't step down I bet.

Good for him.

Posted by: RWC at July 26, 2013 03:05 PM (fWAjv)

69 i yam a man of sharp edges and deep concerns, btw. Drink thristily, amigos

Posted by: el Bernardo Blackamoor at July 26, 2013 03:05 PM (omBWL)

70 A belated Happy Birthday. to AtC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCD0S5xyCiM


Posted by: Forty Baht Barry at July 26, 2013 03:05 PM (qPtG+)

71 Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we
broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests -
we did.

*wink*

Posted by: Bob "Otter" Filner at July 26, 2013 03:06 PM (8ZskC)

72 42 Posted by: AmishDude at July 26, 2013 02:55 PM (xSegX)


Take your best shot.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 02:58 PM (8ZskC)


What, that a dissembling fabulist not only chooses -- of all possible professions -- the law and that many in that profession are willing and eager to have him?

Sorry, I got nothin'.

Posted by: Enrique Smug (formerly AmishDude, the Always Right) at July 26, 2013 03:06 PM (xSegX)

73 Don’t forget, the author who fabricated these lies is no obscure chump.

Richard Thompson Ford is Professor of Law at Stanford Law School and author of Rights Gone Wrong: How Law Corrupts the Struggle for Equality and The Race Card: How Bluffing About Bias Make Race Relations Worse.

He’s been on The Colbert Report. He’s made for TV. All the LIV idiots who needed to read the correction didn’t.

Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:06 PM (9KqcB)

74 Filner is going into two weeks of "behavior counseling therapy" on August 5.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:06 PM (lVPtV)

75 I regret that I never made Senator, so my sins would be white washed like Teddy and Chris Dodd

Posted by: Mayor Bob Filner at July 26, 2013 03:07 PM (Pr6hk)

76 Trayvon Martin's Danger name is Diego Furtive.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:07 PM (lVPtV)

77 ...and Bush held a plastic turkey in Iraq, and Tea Partiers spit on members of the CBC, and on and on.

Isn't it funny that they tried so hard to imply that Zimmerman was some kind of nuisance for calling police so often while our own, dear Eric Holder set up a tip line to gather info on Zimmerman.
So tip lines: enabling racist cranks or a smart tool for crowd sourcing evidence of a crime?

Posted by: Marcy Furtive at July 26, 2013 03:07 PM (2mSdf)

78 74 Filner is going into two weeks of "behavior counseling therapy" on August 5.

Ah, the Jesse Jackson, Jr. route.

Well played, Filner.

Isn't anybody playing the "Jackin' It In San Diego" bit from South Park?

Posted by: Enrique Smug (formerly AmishDude, the Always Right) at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (xSegX)

79 I can't wait for the sponge-baths....

Posted by: Mayor Bob Filner at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (Pr6hk)

80 Ace, you and Faculty Lounge missed another important misleading statement in TNR piece regarding the "study" of SYG outcomes.
Because, “defendants claiming ‘stand your ground’ are more likely to prevail if the victim is black” they say, "criminal justice system is rigged to protect whites and punish blacks."
Do I have to tell you what is egregiously wrong with that conclusion?
Yeah, I didn't think so.

Posted by: Nick Shaw at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (9Xn+t)

81 "1/29/12: Five or six kids, ages 4-11 years, running and playing in the street and running out in front of cars"

Damn White-Hispanic busybody cracker. He should just let the kids get run over. How else will they ever learn?

Posted by: Mod L. Citizen at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (eHIJJ)

82 Filner ain't stepping down. Power's a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (lVPtV)

83 Filner is going into two weeks of "behavior counseling therapy" on August 5.


Maybe he and Weiner can sign up for the group rate.


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (8ZskC)

84 We regret that actual reality does not conform to our version of reality.

Posted by: The New Republic at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (ggRof)

85 73 Don’t forget, the author who fabricated these lies is no obscure chump.

"Richard Thompson Ford is Professor of Law at Stanford Law School"


I'm shocked *shocked* to see that I'm proven right YET AGAIN!

Posted by: Enrique Smug (formerly AmishDude, the Always Right) at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (xSegX)

86 Wrap your mind around no prom for Trayvon, no high school graduation for Trayvon … all because of a law — a law that has prevented the person who shot and killed my son (from) … paying for this awful crime,”

There is also a law that says you can't walk up and punch a person in the face and start bashing their skull into the pavement. But it didn't stop your thug son.

Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (9KqcB)

87 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary 'NeverWet' Clinton at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (GQ72I)

88 Trayvon Martin's Danger name is Diego Furtive.

----

I would have guesses Delinquent Morte.



*** denouncing self already

Posted by: fixerupper at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (nELVU)

89
Filner is going into two weeks of "behavior counseling therapy" on August 5.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:06 PM (lVPtV)

*****


What are the odds he offers to start the first session with a group hug?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (pxDth)

90 Off topic a little but how much longer before we start looking like Egypt. Having lived there for I year (pre-Arab Spring) I hurt for my friends there.

Posted by: Narciso Evil at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (mwctc)

91 >>Filner ain't stepping down. Power's a hell of a drug.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Democrat party. Enabling sexual harassment to further their abortion crusade since 1992.

Posted by: Marcy Furtive at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (2mSdf)

92 Maybe he and Weiner can sign up for the group grope rate.




Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (8ZskC)

FIFY

Posted by: phreshone at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (Pr6hk)

93 Good thing Comrade Obama doesn't read AoS, or there'd be hell to pay!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (XdnQT)

94
It's like an agit-prop ideal case study.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2013 02:59 PM (2up3Q)

We thought all our community organizers well.

Posted by: KGB at July 26, 2013 03:10 PM (AWmfW)

95 Funny. The mic went out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:10 PM (lVPtV)

96 Writing something that is technically true, but is deliberately written in a manner to both obscure the truth and mislead the reader into believing a falsehood, is the stock and trade of litigators. It is also what gets you sanctioned by a judge and destroyed by a jury.

But for "journalists" such noble lies are necessary for the cause.

Posted by: wooga at July 26, 2013 03:10 PM (IHLuR)

97 Snowden needs to ask Kenneth Trentadue about what happens when you get picked up the FBI when Holder's one of the guys in charge in DC. Wait...

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at July 26, 2013 03:10 PM (ZWvOb)

98 How do you cure a perv in two weeks?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (lVPtV)

99 Jane D'oh: "Filner is going into two weeks of 'behavior counseling therapy'"

Oh Good Grief.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (eHIJJ)

100 Wait, does this make things somewhat worse, so we can chant Let It Burn?
Or does it make things somewhat better, so we can postulate that despite the improvement things are still doomed in the long run, so we can chant Let It Burn?

I just want to know whether this is Further Evidence of Impending Doom or False Hope Presaging Impending Doom.

I know it ends with cheering for societal collapse, just want to know whether to add a flavor of wistful disappointment.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (ZPrif)

101
Ha. Therapy. I remember Bill Clinton getting counseling from Jesse Jackson who also had to go get some therapy, and Wiener got therapy too. and so did Client No. 9.


I am beginning to think this therapy line is just a disingenuous scam.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk also known as Escobar Threat at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (4+FWp)

102 And the Democratic Party won't do much to encourage him to step down. War on women!!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (GTpeb)

103 Yikes.

News headling - "Castro agrees to life plus 1,000 years"

I can't say that he doesn't deserve it (actually, I'd prefer if he was executed), but I don't think I've ever seen that many "plus X years" before.

Posted by: junior at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (UWFpX)

104 @86 Wrap your mind around no prom for Trayvon, no high school graduation
for Trayvon … all because of a law — a law that has prevented the person
who shot and killed my son (from) … paying for this awful crime,”



There is also a law that says you can't walk up and punch a person
in the face and start bashing their skull into the pavement. But it
didn't stop your thug son.
CJ
Yeah, like he was going to graduate high school and college. Please!

Posted by: Nick Shaw at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (9Xn+t)

105 2 weeks in therapy? Oh, the horror.

Posted by: RWC at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (fWAjv)

106 Trayvon Martin's Danger name is Diego Furtive.

I thought it was Pushin' Up Daisys"

Posted by: trainer's looking for a Militia to join... at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (K5X44)

107 Another GZ angle: If Trayvon had been white and shot GZ, GZ would have been celebrated, mourned, and valued as a Black Hispanic!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (XdnQT)

108 That's ludicrous. IF he can be cured he's need long term counselling-same with Weiner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (GTpeb)

109 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Democrat party. Enabling sexual harassment vehicular homicide to further their abortion crusade since 1992. 1969.


Posted by: Marcy Furtive at July 26, 2013 03:09 PM (2mSdf)

FIFY

Posted by: phreshone at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (Pr6hk)

110 How do you cure a perv in two weeks?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (lVPtV)


He'll have a Certificate.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (8ZskC)

111 Brine.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (ZshNr)

112 Therapy is for pussies.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (8ZskC)

113
How do you cure a perv in two weeks?

Why question what works?

Posted by: A Weiner at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (pJF+c)

114

Ace did you get our message Yesterday? said it was okay if you came to work today without panties.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (+zMV+)

115
Initial introductions on Filner's first day at perv rehab:

"Therapist, allow me to introduce the rapist!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (pxDth)

116 Damage from RNC/Texas story will not be arrested with tweets.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (bUmSq)

117 News headling - "Castro agrees to life plus 1,000 years"

Obviously not a democrat politician

Posted by: phreshone at July 26, 2013 03:14 PM (Pr6hk)

118 Behavior couseling therapy.


Say 5 Hail Marys and 5 Our Fathers.


And we good.

Posted by: eleven at July 26, 2013 03:14 PM (fsLdt)

119 Ace did you get our message Yesterday? said it was okay if you came to work today without panties.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 26, 2013 03:13 PM (+zMV+)

But don't forget the mayo.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 26, 2013 03:14 PM (gqgiP)

120 I wonder if the Winston-McCauley Funeral Home (search it) will sponsor tnr.

Care, compassion, dedication. These are the things TNR can promise you. And there's one other thing it can promise: it will not run utter lies in its pages. If any employees fail to live up to their standards, he can be asked to run a correction, without pay. And if that's not enough, if you can prove in public that TNR slandered you, it will renew your subscription for six months without charge.

That's the TNR Guarantee.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 26, 2013 03:14 PM (ApiTO)

121 Heh. The mic is fixed. Now Filner has to start over with his statement.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:14 PM (lVPtV)

122 So who cane we complain to about Filner. He's the Mayor. Who's above him in Seniority? The Governor.?He won't or can't do a thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2013 03:15 PM (GTpeb)

123 Posted by: Nick Shaw at July 26, 2013 03:12 PM (9Xn+t)


But, but, I thought Trayvon was a valedictorian!


And the idiots at Fox, the faux conservative media outlet, still show the side by side pictures of evil George, and choirboy Trayvon (at what looks to be age . At least, they are not showing GZ in an orange jumpsuit, so I'll give them that.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 26, 2013 03:15 PM (XdnQT)

124 Meh, Haven't bothered their site ever even from links posted here. It's enough fun just to point and laugh.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (4pjhs)

125 Posted by: junior at July 26, 2013 03:11 PM (UWFpX)

Dudley Wayne Kyzer - 10,000+ years.

Posted by: RWC at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (fWAjv)

126 This is exactly correct, CJ It's been, frankly, amazing to watch.

BlackOrchid, I was just thinking recently, it is the first political prosecution that I have witnessed. I don't use that term lightly, but I think it applies.

It followed the same pattern as the Duke Rape hoax. No one paid for that act of journalism malpractice and no one will pay for this.

Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (9KqcB)

127
Mayor Filner is a stand-up guy with a small problem Therapy will correct his actions, and make him a valuable member of the community.

Posted by: Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (pJF+c)

128
Articles like the one Ace just wrote miss the mark.

This isn't about the author or editors at the New Republic. They don't care about the truth when it interfers with the narrative they've decided on. Chastising them is an exercise in futility.

The focus, if you want to change things, is Chris Hughes.

If our writers would simply link everything that is wrong with this and a hundred other NR articles to Chris Hughes personally, showing how small his dick is because of this anti-journalism, the problem would be quickly solved.

Isolate. Humiliate.

Learn how to use a forum the way it's meant to be used.

Posted by: jwest at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (u2a4R)

129 "This is not the behavior of a magazine seeking to print the Truth."

I. Am. Shocked.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (tWmgi)

130 Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:16 PM (9KqcB)

It's not malpractice if you really believe the lies it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 26, 2013 03:17 PM (XdnQT)

131 So who cane we complain to about Filner. He's the Mayor. Who's above him in Seniority? The Governor.?He won't or can't do a thing.
----------

If Brown could, he might very well do something. He's a bit of an odd duck, and I suspect that he's not straight partisan/party line like many of the other Dems here (doesn't mean that "Governor Moonbeam" doesn't live up to his nickname, mind you). But the Lt. Gov and State AG won't move a muscle against Filner if they can avoid doing so.

Posted by: junior at July 26, 2013 03:17 PM (UWFpX)

132 'How to cook a story' - take one GMC pickup, add incendiary devices

Posted by: Dateline NBC at July 26, 2013 03:17 PM (Pr6hk)

133 Life plus 1000 years.


They say the first 500 years is the hardest.

Posted by: eleven at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (fsLdt)

134 And then there's the San Diego Democratic Party. Care, compassion, integrity and absolutely no rape. Any rapist can be sent to therapy for up to two weeks . . .

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (ApiTO)

135 Awww, when he returns to his office August 19, he wants to be the best person he can be.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (lVPtV)

136 That's right Bob, stand up there and yell "Finally I am above the law"

Posted by: Big Ern (D) at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (Pr6hk)

137
Wrap your mind around no prom for Trayvon, no high school graduation for Trayvon … all because of a law — a law that has prevented the person who shot and killed my son (from) … paying for this awful crime,”

There is also a law that says you can't walk up and punch a person in the face and start bashing their skull into the pavement. But it didn't stop your thug son. Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:08 PM (9KqcB)



I left this at the end of the last thread:
Colton Gleason, St Cloud MN. Killed by 17 year old with one punch.
Police said Colton Gleason was walking in an alley with two women at about 11:30 p.m. on Thursday night when a car carrying five to seven people passed them and stopped.

According to the charging petition, Smithers told the driver to stop and got out of the car. He then approached Gleason and punched him in the head with a closed fist, dropping him to the ground. Smithers then got back in the car and indicated he punched the man that was knocked unconscious.

Gleason regained consciousness at the St. Cloud Hospital, but subsequently died from injuries he sustained in the attack.


--I lived 5 blocks from there when I was in college.

Posted by: rd at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (D+lxs)

138 Filner announces:

I'm going into therapy.........

Posted by: � Sponge at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (xmcEQ)

139

gary gnood

Posted by: soothsayer at July 26, 2013 03:18 PM (+zMV+)

140 Wanna bet Filner already had a two week vacation planned from Aug. 5 - 19th?

Posted by: Tami at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (X6akg)

141 I must say, I thought the part of the article where the girl was thrown into the volcano was a bit overdone.

Excellent work, otherwise.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (tWmgi)

142
NBC has never stretched the truth, and will continue providing our customers the highest order of news reporting.

Posted by: NBC and Pinocchio at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (pJF+c)

143 97
Snowden needs to ask Kenneth Trentadue about what happens when you get
picked up the FBI when Holder's one of the guys in charge in DC. Wait...


Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at July 26, 2013 03:10 PM (ZWvOb)





Or a chat with Ibragim Todashev.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (AWmfW)

144 I hope he uses Weiner's guy. He's a miracle worker!

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (ZshNr)

145 Wrap your mind around no prom for Trayvon, no high school graduation for Trayvon … all because of a law — a law that has prevented the person who shot and killed my son (from) … paying for this awful crime,”


A law that does not apply to the evidence since Zimmerman had no where to retreat after your son attacked him, knocked him down, straddled him and continued to beat him.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (tXGg/)

146 And then there's the San Diego Democratic Party. Care, compassion, integrity and absolutely no rape. Any rapist can be sent to therapy for up to two weeks . . .
--------

Why stop there? Attach it to the state party apparatus. The state apparatus voted on whether or not to take action against Filner... and literally deadlocked 24 votes to 24 votes.

Posted by: junior at July 26, 2013 03:19 PM (UWFpX)

147 Stephen Glass. Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 26, 2013 03:20 PM (Pr6hk)

148 Funny. The mic went out.

Nothing like giving a heartfelt apology and public exposing of your soul....And then agreeing to re-enact it with working mikes.

Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:21 PM (9KqcB)

149 Dear Penthouse Forum,

I thought stories like this were fiction. I was forced to enter a 'sexual rehabilitation center.' Here is my lurid story of those two glorious weeks..

Posted by: Mayor Filner at July 26, 2013 03:21 PM (fWAjv)

150 Awww, when he returns to his office August 19, he wants to be the best person he can be.


Filner is eager to face the challenges of the Ocean of Tomorrow with a Diploma from the Escondido Academy of Not Being A Skeevy Pervert Anymore.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 26, 2013 03:21 PM (8ZskC)

151 oh, Bob Filner. we call him 'otter butt'

Posted by: Chief Nokahoma at July 26, 2013 03:21 PM (Pr6hk)

152 And there it is.....Fox reporter saying San Diego city council does not meet for the month of August.

Posted by: Tami at July 26, 2013 03:21 PM (X6akg)

153 What's more?

'Black' boy is entirely irrelevant. Zimmerman was calling up about a child's, any child's safety, because, obviously, any small child could be hurt in the street.

Race is introduced only to make it inflammatory.

Posted by: zsasz at July 26, 2013 03:22 PM (MMC8r)

154 I support 'Occupy San Diego.'

I let them put a 'Rape Tent' in my office.

Posted by: Mayor Filner at July 26, 2013 03:22 PM (fWAjv)

155 152
And there it is.....Fox reporter saying San Diego city council does not meet for the month of August.

Posted by: Tami at July 26, 2013 03:21 PM (X6akg)

It's like a major league pitcher getting a 3 game suspension

Posted by: Chief Nokahoma at July 26, 2013 03:22 PM (Pr6hk)

156
Mayor Filner of San Diego is booked into our conference and competition for the month of August.

Posted by: Maui Surf Competition Council at July 26, 2013 03:22 PM (pJF+c)

157
The city attorney in SD is still going to insist that no women be allowed to be in his presence alone to minimize any potential law suits. This two week vacation of his is not going to change things.

Weiner and Huma pulled the same crap in thinking that even with his continuation of dick pixs and that they would come out if he ran, that there would be no or minimal damage to his campaign.

All these people are in denial about their behavior.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at July 26, 2013 03:23 PM (tXGg/)

158 Bob Filner, I'll get on that story as soon as I clear up Trig's parental status

Posted by: Andi Sullivain at July 26, 2013 03:24 PM (Pr6hk)

159 Two weeks of 'hands-on' training. Can't wait

Posted by: Mayor Bob Fil-n-er-up at July 26, 2013 03:25 PM (Pr6hk)

160 @ 123- hrothgar
But, but, I thought Trayvon was a valedictorian!


And the
idiots at Fox, the faux conservative media outlet, still show the side
by side pictures of evil George, and choirboy Trayvon (at what looks to
be age . At least, they are not showing GZ in an orange jumpsuit, so I'll give them that.

If Fox used the photo of the punk while he was in the store buying his watermelon drink and Skittles (you know the one I mean) for the side by side, what do you think the LSM would do?
It don't take much imagination!

Posted by: Nick Shaw at July 26, 2013 03:25 PM (9Xn+t)

161 Fox is replaying part of his statement, and I noticed he said, "intimidating contact" and suddenly changed it to "conduct."

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2013 03:26 PM (K+I6z)

162
New Republic didn't write this article, it was low-level staffers at the Cleveland office.

They would have got the truth straight, but the editors couldn't get the article in time - they were too far away. By the time authorization came down from the Truth Department, teams of fact checkers were on the runway waiting for transportation that never came.

Posted by: jwest at July 26, 2013 03:26 PM (u2a4R)

163 Why are they so afraid of facts And the truth?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 26, 2013 03:27 PM (TaUie)

164 brb, taking time off to reach out to more constituents...with my genitalia

Posted by: The Honorable Mayor Filner at July 26, 2013 03:27 PM (ggRof)

165 If our writers would simply link everything that is wrong with this and a hundred other NR articles to Chris Hughes personally, showing how small his dick is because of this anti-journalism, the problem would be quickly solved.

I agree with this. That doesn't have to in place of Ace and other writers have done. They work hand in hand. But, yes, time to name names and attack the shit out of their character. There's a reason we know about Rupert Murdoch. Forces worked hard to see that we know his name.

Posted by: CJ at July 26, 2013 03:27 PM (9KqcB)

166 Perhaps one day the blacks will realize how they have been woefully exploited, oppressed, and cheated by white leftists and their own so-called "leadership" for so long, and rise up in anger to seek revenge.

I for one will not get in their way.

Posted by: Adjoran at July 26, 2013 03:29 PM (473jB)

167
All this talk about the NR article is distracting everyone from the serious work of getting the country moving again.

Isn't it time we put all this behind us?

Posted by: jwest at July 26, 2013 03:29 PM (u2a4R)

168 Isn't it time we put all this behind us?

Posted by: jwest at July 26, 2013 03:29 PM (u2a4R)

Tell that to Juror 29..... She's stoking the fire real good. Got to hear trayvons mama yet again...... Wish the true story of little choir boy Trayvon would come out...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 26, 2013 03:31 PM (9+ccr)

169 George Zimmerman took cuts in the lunch line once.

True story.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at July 26, 2013 03:34 PM (/lWM8)

170 (started this a while ago, then had An Issue at work)

Zimmerman should sue TNR, too.

1) By the time of that article, the information had been available (and, indeed, relatively widely read) for long enough that reporting on it incorrectly is a massive breach in Journalistic Ethics (or would be, if such a thing existed).

2) By the time of that article, the FBI had already found that there was no evidence that Zimmerman was a racist and, in fact, that there was a preponderance of evidence that he was not.

1 & 2 Combine to make the article what we, in common parlance, call "a lie."

That TNR was lying in order specifically to harm Zimmerman should not be terribly hard to establish.

I believe malice (desire to harm) is the qualifying bar for libel, yes?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at July 26, 2013 03:36 PM (/PCJa)

171 But when Zimmerman called, he did say "boy", right?

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at July 26, 2013 03:37 PM (2jQGY)

172 This is the publication for which Elspeth Reeve was a 'fact-checker.'

Posted by: zsasz at July 26, 2013 03:38 PM (MMC8r)

173 Our media seems to exist for the express purpose of figuring out which stories we shouldn't be told about.

Amish, you sir are a genius. And you figured it out without an all-important, all-encompassing law degree. The MFM lies every day through omission. Gosnel is not too bad, because if it was, someone would report it. Benghazi is not criminal negligence by reducing security in the face of known and reported increasing danger, it is just Repubs being mean to Hilary.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at July 26, 2013 03:40 PM (9Bdcz)

174 "52
Wasn't Stephen Glass the imaginary boy friend of Jan Brady?"

George Glass, I believe. And yes..I denounce myself for possessing that knowledge.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 26, 2013 03:42 PM (knoK7)

175 To hell with these dirtbags.

Posted by: Dan In Shepherd at July 26, 2013 04:17 PM (rAUBr)

176 The New Republic was created as a cheerleader for progressive and fascist causes, and it hasn't gotten any better since the days when it wore presidential knee pads for Benito Mussolini.

Posted by: pst314 at July 26, 2013 05:28 PM (T4dRn)

177 Editing a story so it's technically not false, but still gives people a false impression? Who do they think they are - Michael Moore?

Posted by: Calvin Dodge at July 26, 2013 07:53 PM (ZIzRW)

178 In response to Stephen. Glass. only two words:

Andrew. Sullivan.

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