Star Witness Rachael Jenteal: I Can't Read That Letter Explaining What Happened to Trayvon Martin That Night Even Though I Supposedly Wrote It

She's a star witness because she's the only witness to contradict George Zimmerman's claim that he stopped following Trayvon Martin. The defense suspects she's making this all up-- that she had nothing important to tell police, which is why she never bothered contacting them.

At some point, weeks later, the Martin family contacted her. She now explains her failure to step forward with critical information in a homicide case by saying she expected police to contact her, because that's what always happens on First 48 (one of those crime documentary news magazine shows).

"Don't you watch First 48?" she asked a defense attorney when pressed on this claim. As if she thought the attorney's knowledge of police procedure came from the same place hers (allegedly) did.

An alternate explanation is that she didn't contact police because she had nothing important to tell them at all, and that now she's been coached into how to deliver perjured testimony that could land Zimmerman in jail.

Yesterday she claimed that, over the cell phone, she could hear the sound of "grass, wet grass." Yes, of course everyone hears vegetation, and especially over a cell phone.

It's in this context that a letter supposedly written by her but not, alas, readable by her, is important.

A teenage friend of Trayvon Martin was forced to admit today in the George Zimmerman murder trial that she did not write a letter that was sent to Martin's mother describing what she allegedly heard on a phone call with Martin moments before he was shot.

In a painfully embarassing moment, Rachel Jeantel was asked to read the letter out loud in court.

"Are you able to read that at all?" defense attorney Don West asked.

Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."

It sent a hush through the packed courtroom.

Jeantel, 19, was unable to read any of the letter save for her name.

Posted by: Ace at 12:42 PM



Comments

1 "The prosecution suspects she's"

You mean the defense.

Posted by: ASDF at June 27, 2013 12:43 PM (mJtuT)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:44 PM (/PCJa)

3 She can vote, though.

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 27, 2013 12:44 PM (6H6o8)

4 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:44 PM (/PCJa)

5 She didn't read it cause she didn't write it. St Trayvons family lawyer did.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 12:44 PM (zOTsN)

6 The prosecution suspects she's making this all up

You mean the defense.

The prosecution knows she's making this all up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (/PCJa)

7
But the fact that the original prosecutor and police didn't think they had a case was racist.

Posted by: RS at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (YAGV/)

8 Lunch time.

Posted by: Court Stenographer at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (UypUQ)

9 I just heard her on Rush. Sounded like she said she "can't read curses."

Posted by: sydney jane at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (zYWPO)

10 from what I've been reading at Legal Insurrection dot com, the case does not appear to be going well for the prosecution.

Posted by: Mallfly at June 27, 2013 12:46 PM (bJm7W)

11 If he is convicted on the strength of her testimony than this is a modern day to kill a mockingbird.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 12:46 PM (zOTsN)

12 The victim here is our system of education whichwas murdered long ago.

Posted by: Janetoo at June 27, 2013 12:46 PM (/TVdO)

13 The prosecution knows she's making this all up...


Sad but true.

Posted by: ASDF at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (mJtuT)

14 There's a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her. It seems painfully apparent that not one person in her life gives a shit that she's functionally illiterate and utterly incoherent.


The rest of me doesn't give a shit because she is allowing herself to be used to railroad someone to jail.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (Gk3SS)

15 If she can't read it, she can't write it, thus she didn't write the letter.

It, and her whole testimony for the prosecution should be thrown out.

And without her? The whole case goes kaput. The only story we have is Zimmerman's, and the evidence does not contradict his story (that we know of) in any way.

Also: the prosecutors in this case should be disbarred and the full range of penalties for such misconduct should be levied.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (/PCJa)

16 "The prosecution suspects she's"

You mean the defense.
Posted by: ASDF at June 27, 2013 12:43 PM (mJtuT)
That's right. The prosecution knows she's making it all up.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (29vnO)

17 There's no education system in the world that can fix stupid.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (ZPrif)

18
She can vote, though.

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 27, 2013 12:44 PM (6H6o


And vote often.

Posted by: YIKES! at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (mETGQ)

19
Um, if she can't read the letter, she didn't write the letter.

So who wrote the letter?

Posted by: Boots at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (oG66P)

20 So the only evidence against Zimmerman has been fabricated. When can his defense move for the charges to be dismissed?

Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (wsGWu)

21 Won't matter.

The all-woman jury will still find Zimmerman guilty after the prosecution's closing argument, which will consist of a film short showing select childhood photos of innocent little Martin, dissolving one into the other with slow zooms on his cherubic face, to the tune of "Say You, Say Me."

Posted by: brown gargantua at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (mV5Rx)

22
Our amazing teacher-union-captured-public-school-system failure on display for all to see.


But of course, it's because RAAAACISM!

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (HBAcW)

23
It's a damned disgrace that this is even in a trial to begin with. That political considerations trump a prosecutor's civic duty is shameful.

Posted by: @JohnTant at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (PFy0L)

24 You can tell she's been coached to always respond with "sir" in all of her answers.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (+9Xe/)

25 Cursive is hard.

Posted by: Jeantel at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (oDCMR)

26 So who wrote the letter?

Doesn't matter.
Basic due diligence would have shown that she couldn't have written it- so the prosecution would never have used it.

Thus, the prosecution never even did their basic due diligence.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (/PCJa)

27 jeanteal will cancel my vote.

Posted by: tony redenzo at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (LwRkC)

28
I don't see what is odd here. When I want to document something important, I often have a friend come over and help me write it out in Sanskrit, which I do not read.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (Nfpnr)

29 After hearing mush mouth talk, I'm impressed she could read her own name.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (g1DWB)

30 The rest of me doesn't give a shit because she is allowing herself to be used to railroad someone to jail.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (Gk3SS)
Of course these two things are not unrelated.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (GaqMa)

31 The only reason she can read her name is that someone taught her pattern recognition.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (lVdb3)

32
Hola, you creepy ass crackers!

Where's my free stuff?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (PT7/5)

33 This chick could have gone to private school with all Harvard spawn -- she'd still be a retard.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (ZPrif)

34 She had an IEP, I'll betcha.

Posted by: brown gargantua at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (mV5Rx)

35 Where's bro Shahp'n at? Expec cries of racism cause we be talkin abouts the sista dat can't read any minutes now.

Posted by: Havedash at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (F0WNa)

36

Give her the Skittles concoction. Maybe she just needs to be back in the right frame of mind.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (XYSwB)

37 So the only evidence against Zimmerman has been fabricated. When can his defense move for the charges to be dismissed?

This is a very good question.

From the Horde's descriptions, though, it doesn't sound like the Judge would rule to dismiss. The best (on those grounds) that Zimmerman can hope for is that the prosecution withdraws the charges (which would, I believe, allow them to refile at a later date).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (/PCJa)

38 Thought I read that she basically dictated this letter to someone to write for her, in a way other people could understand? That would certainly square with her being illiterate. If that's the case, shouldn't we be hearing from the the letter writer?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (kZVsz)

39 Come one people--haven't you ever heard of the Ouija Board? Or the Brain Wave to Cursive Machine?

I think God drove her hand to write the letter. S'truth.

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (Hfjmb)

40 Doesn't matter.

Basic due diligence would have shown that she couldn't have written it- so the prosecution would never have used it.



Thus, the prosecution never even did their basic due diligence.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (/PCJa)




In an odd way, this ties back to what should happen with the IRS. It takes Nifong levels of trying to fuck up for prosecutorial immunity to be waived. If there's no consequence to screwing up, there's no motivation to avoid it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (Gk3SS)

41 The sequester meant we could only afford to teach her to write cursive.

Posted by: Teacher's Unions at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (FcR7P)

42 It's not unusual at all for illiterates to write stuff.
Happens all the time.

Posted by: Muhammad at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (ZPrif)

43
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (/PCJa)

If I'm understanding the testimony correctly, she's claiming that someone else physically wrote the letter so it had good handwriting.
I've done the same.
Having said that, I'd imagine (IANAL) that it would somewhat taint the evidence, because it was a collaborative work.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (GaqMa)

44 If she's the star witness, perhaps they were referring to mass as opposed to quality of testimony.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (ZWvOb)

45
There's a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her. It seems painfully
apparent that not one person in her life gives a shit that she's
functionally illiterate and utterly incoherent.

--

I admit to feeling this way, too...a bit. After seeing some of her testimony from yesterday, it's hard not to feel kind of sorry for her. On some level, at least.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (ovWeo)

46 I smell the loss of a law license for a certain corrupt prosecutor. Disbarrment, and mebbe even a little slammertime.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (OlN4e)

47 Why yes, it's normal criminal justice procedure to take the state's star
witness' statement at the home of the grieving mother with both parents
of the dead child and their attorney in residence and with the sobbing,
sniffling inconsolable mother sitting right next to the would-be
witness while the interview is being recorded. Why do you ask?

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (LBBS3)

48 Yes Sir...

Posted by: Dee Dee a/k/a Rachel a/k/a Diamond at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (y5bPZ)

49 I agree. Illiterates can write stuff, too. Maybe with a little help sometimes.

Posted by: Joseph Smith at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (ZPrif)

50 All your cursive belong to us.

Posted by: Django Jeantel at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (oDCMR)

51
There's no education system in the world that can fix stupid.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (ZPrif)


Sometimes I wonder if it's not so much stupidity but a mal-education system that's to ensure a democrat voting base.

Posted by: YIKES! at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (mETGQ)

52

How cute. It's an all victim trial; sans Zimmerman, of course. He's probably a Tea Partier.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (XYSwB)

53 I once heard/read about a skittles/juice concoction but can't for the life of me remember what it was...I seem to recall it wasn't an innocent snack as the media/prosecution would have you believe.....

anyone know?

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (qdzWt)

54 Those "cursives" will get ya' every time.

Posted by: no good deed at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (KQ9aX)

55 I didn't see the exchange. Can she read at all?

I was once deposing a guy who claimed he couldn't understand what was written in a license because it was in legalese; the way he waffled about it made me suspicious though, so I asked him if he could read at all and he told me yes. So, I handed him a water bottle and asked him to read a short paragraph (maybe 10-12 words) off the label for the record and it turned out he basically couldn't read at all.

It's amazing that people can get out of school with such deficiencies, but it's also amazing how dumb this witness appears, so I would have pressed a little harder about whether she was literate so as to leave no doubt that letter is a forgery and some high-level chicanery is going on in this trial.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (8/DeP)

56 If I was the judge, I would instruct the jury that she is incredible as a matter of law. But that is probably why I am not a judge.

Posted by: real joe at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (0V5f3)

57 27
jeanteal will cancel my vote.

****

But not both of ours! So as long as she's the only quasi-retarded idiot voting in our precinct, and as long as we have reasonable voting laws in place to prevent fraud, limited-government conservatism has a fighting chance!

Oh. Wait.

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (6KiQ+)

58 No no, she didn't say she could "hear" wet grass over the phone.

She smelled wet grass over the phone...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (wtvvX)

59 When asked if Trayvon could have attacked Zimmerman, our MENSA candidate replied with a disdainful, "That's Retarded, Sir."

Posted by: I Don't Read Cursive at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (y5bPZ)

60 Thought I read that she basically dictated this letter to someone to write for her, in a way other people could understand?

Okay, I guess I can almost see that, but if she was writing it for legal purposes (which it seems she was) shouldn't it be acknowledged in the letter that she wasn't actually the one putting it on paper?

I know that's (for instance) why memos and letters from corporate execs often say "Dictated but not read" or something like that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (/PCJa)

61 > I agree. Illiterates can write stuff, too. Maybe with a little help sometimes. Posted by: Joseph Smith

The angel Moroni helped me write the letter, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Jeantal Smith at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (ZWvOb)

62 CURSIVES = RACISMS!!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (wtvvX)

63 46
I smell the loss of a law license for a certain corrupt prosecutor. Disbarrment, and mebbe even a little slammertime.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (OlN4e)

More likely, a supervisory position at the DOJ.

Posted by: real joe at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (0V5f3)

64 In an odd way, this ties back to what should happen
with the IRS. It takes Nifong levels of trying to fuck up for
prosecutorial immunity to be waived. If there's no consequence to
screwing up, there's no motivation to avoid it.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (Gk3SS)
This is so true.... but don't know what to do about it.

Posted by: ASDF at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (mJtuT)

65 Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (qdzWt)

--

Skittlebrau?

Posted by: Coleman at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (AhJYy)

66 Cursive is the devil's script.

Posted by: L. Farakhan at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (mV5Rx)

67 The defense calls Rachel Jenteal to the stand...

Posted by: Aaron Hernandez' lawyer at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (FcR7P)

68 She's clearly a racist and a bigot. Railroading an innocent man is evil.

And she clearly knows she is lying. She's not that retarded to be unaware of her lies.

Charge the bitch with perjury.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (ZPrif)

69 14 There's a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her. It seems painfully apparent that not one person in her life gives a shit that she's functionally illiterate and utterly incoherent.

The rest of me doesn't give a shit because she is allowing herself to be used to railroad someone to jail.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (Gk3SS)

Agreed. There's also a part of me that suspects that the prosecution thought she would be a viable witness because they believe that her demeanor and level of (mis)education is normal for *all* black persons.

Now that I think about it, for the young woman's generation, they might have been playing good odds.

Die, Leftists NEA.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 12:55 PM (aY3VP)

70 I bin lisnin to de libestreem al mownin n mih hed dond fel gud nah. Bud I hungry.

Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2013 12:55 PM (4I3Uo)

71 55
It's amazing that people can get out of school with such deficiencies,

She is 19 and just now a senior.....I was 16 when I graduated HS

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:55 PM (qdzWt)

72
"14 There's a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her. It seems painfully apparent that not one person in her life gives a shit that she's functionally illiterate and utterly incoherent."


Including herself. Education is there for those who seek it.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at June 27, 2013 12:55 PM (jz0+s)

73 I once heard/read about a skittles/juice concoction but can't for the life of me remember what it was...I seem to recall it wasn't an innocent snack as the media/prosecution would have you believe

Skittles + Arizona Ice Tea + Robitussin = "Drank" or "Lean"

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (8/DeP)

74 There is help for Miss Jeantel.

http://tinyurl.com/ouedplh

Posted by: huerfano at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (bAGA/)

75 This is so true.... but don't know what to do about it.

Are you going to make me repeat myself?

It starts:
"Burn it down..."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (/PCJa)

76 Bill Ayers wrote it.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (AmWlQ)

77 73

thanks...thats it

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (qdzWt)

78 Young Saint Trayvon had fine taste in women.

Posted by: Kim at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (ICqvM)

79 If she didn't writ, you must acquit!

Posted by: at June 27, 2013 12:56 PM (v/hPc)

80 53

Trayvon drank "Lean", which is a concoction of something like iced tea, skittles and cough syrup or cold medicine. It was found in his twitter account posts.

He was coming back from the convenience store with most, if not all of the ingredients for it.

Posted by: Gaff at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (jPS2y)

81 The prosecution knows she's making this all up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (/PCJa)


=======

Isn't that like, you know, a crime?

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (OtQXp)

82
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (8/DeP)

Mom-in-law has a brain injury. (So this isn't really an education story.)
She loves to read so we got a very simple push button e-reader, figuring we could load up the books, open them and swap them out when needed, she'd only need to push the "turn page button."
My wife got some book for her (I don't remember what) and about 4 hours later I notice she's still on page 4. I said "are you having problems, we can help you."
She said "no, it's a great book."
We've come to realize (given various other events involving restaurant menus over the last few months) that we're fairly certain she's lost the ability to read anything longer than a few words. Not much we can do about it though. Told her docs that's about it.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (GaqMa)

83 I am dealing with enormous white-man's shame for judging this witness and her credibility...

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (/jHWN)

84 Hmm.... interesting thought...

could the Defense now send a Warrant to the NSA? Asking for the Metadata from the phone... AND recorded phone call if they have them?

Its now public Information that they DO have some of that info... ergo would not be compromising sources or methods...

And could totally impeach her testimony.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (lZBBB)

85 I didn't see the exchange. Can she read at all?



I was once deposing a guy who claimed he couldn't understand what
was written in a license because it was in legalese; the way he waffled
about it made me suspicious though, so I asked him if he could read at
all and he told me yes. So, I handed him a water bottle and asked him
to read a short paragraph (maybe 10-12 words) off the label for the
record and it turned out he basically couldn't read at all.



It's amazing that people can get out of school with such
deficiencies, but it's also amazing how dumb this witness appears, so I
would have pressed a little harder about whether she was literate so as
to leave no doubt that letter is a forgery and some high-level chicanery
is going on in this trial.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (8/DeP)




There's a requirement that commercial license holders be able to read English well enough to read signs (among other things). It's now standard practice in depositions to hand the driver the driver's ed manual from the state that issued the driver's license and ask him/her to read from a page showing various signs.


Oh the screams of racism are lovely to hear.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (Gk3SS)

86 If she did not writ, u must acquit!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (jz0+s)

87 So long as she can make change for a forty and a dime bag, she ain't gotta read. I denounce myself.

Posted by: no good deed at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (KQ9aX)

88 No, wait, I've got this. She dictated her statement into an Obamaphone, which then printed the statement out in our Dear Leader's effeminate, flamboyant handwriting.

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (6KiQ+)

89 Any chance there will be charges brought against this prosecutor?
Can the prosecutor be removed from office, barred from any future office, disbarred, lose law license?
Will the prosecutor pay any price for this?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (68O14)

90 Isn't that like, you know, a crime?

It would be if we were a nation that believed in the Rule of Law.

Of course, if we were a nation that believed in the rule of law, George Zimmerman would not be on trial right now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (/PCJa)

91 71 "She is 19 and just now a senior.....I was 16 when I graduated HS"

By federal law, IEP students have, I believe, until age 22 to graduate.

That's just a hunch I have about her. Not her fault if it's true, but if it is the prosecution should have factored in that NO AMOUNT OF COACHING was going to turn out well with someone like her on the stand.

Posted by: brown gargantua at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (mV5Rx)

92 IQ is mostly heritable. Quality of education has zero impact. Tiny impact for early childhood education.

Little can actually boost IQ -- best you can do is avoid things that permanently lower IQ. Early childhood disease, for example. Abuse. Severe neglect.

But if you feed your kids and provide a normal, safe environment -- it's mainly down to genes and luck.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (ZPrif)

93
I wonder what she was promised? She had to have been given something besides immunity for perjury. She is an idiot and so is the prosecutor.

I mean seriously, the prosecution did have a couple of interviews with her before she testified right? I mean not asking a basic question of like say, "hey did you really, really pinkie swearwrite this letter, how about reading it for us?" should have come out then right? Oh and maybe they should have told her it wouldn't be a very good idea to go through and deleteall of your questionable Twitterposts two days before you testify. There is something really odd going on here. It's like the Court and Prosecutor have already found the defendant guilty and are just barely going through the motions of a trial.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (6McTJ)

94
Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that this ...specimen...is going to have her own reality show very, very soon?

Burn it. All of it.

Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (4I3Uo)

95 She can vote, though.


Not if we print the ballots in cursive!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (ix+5k)

96 This is our fault. The Department of Education doesn't get enough money.

Posted by: secretary of state at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (jzsdC)

97 I watched this nut job yesterday....aggressively slamming her "court nails" down with each syllable....blatantly lying at every turn...she is too stupid to realize that she can and will be busted for lying.

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (qdzWt)

98 Skittles + Arizona Ice Tea + Robitussin = "Drank" or "Lean"

Gah! Wouldn't that rot the teeth out of your head in one evening?

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (FcR7P)

99 Is there anyway to get that POS Crumb on the stand

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (CMlD4)

100
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:54 PM (/PCJa)

Well firstly, you pay attention to the possible ways the law can snare you.
Secondly it's not really entirely clear why she wrote the damned thing in the first place. She keeps saying "to avoid talking to [T's] mom" but that seems...bizarre, since she seems to have known nothing.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (GaqMa)

101 From the last thread, but apropos here:

99
You know, my husband has worked in Africa, and he got a note from one of his co-workers (a national) thanking him for his help.

The
gentleman was a hard worker who started in maintenance and worked his
way up. The letter (which we saved) is two pages of beautiful cursive
reminscent of Victorian penmanship, in perfect English, eloquently
phrased and quite moving, ending by calling God's blessings down on both
of us.
He was educated in mission schools which his family worked hard to pay for.

I
am absolutely convinced that the educational establishment of this
country, particularly the leftists in universities and social welfare,
have destroyed the potential of black children with malicious intent.
When you see the witness at Zimmerman's trial, what you are seeing is
the end result of evil policies done to create a class which is
incapable of anything but taking government money or doing any sort of
productive work.

The democrats are in the business of destroying minds and souls.


Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 12:15 PM (GoIUi)

My thoughts on this for a long time, exactly.

Posted by: platija de asalto now using BING and duckduckgo instead of google at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (Kkt/i)

102 > Not if we print the ballots in cursive!

You're a damn genius!

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (ZWvOb)

103 Holy crap.. what a freakin' circus.

I would just ask the judge to dismiss the case at this point. Zimmerman is gonna get acquitted in like 2 minutes just because the jurors will be pissed off this case ever even came to trial.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (f9c2L)

104 I think we've found a Low Information Voter.

Posted by: Phinn at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (oFH2D)

105 my son who has a way with words labels such people "soooper seniors"

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (8JJ6O)

106 That's fucking priceless. Matlock is probably sporting wood.

Posted by: akula_51 at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (Vgn84)

107 8 Lunch time.
Posted by: Court Stenographer at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (UypUQ)


*****

I think you misspelled 'lynch'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (mvenn)

108 Jenteal, Obama's finest.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (jvd3N)

109 It's kind of funny watching this woman expose herself as an illiterate buffoon but we shouldn't lose sight of the reality of what's happening here. In the best tradition of Al Sharpton, this black-hearted bitch is lying to land an innocent man in prison.

That makes her a risible piece of shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (8ZskC)

110 Any chance there will be charges brought against this prosecutor?
No.

Can the prosecutor be removed from office, barred from any future office, disbarred, lose law license?
In theory? Yes. In reality? No.

Will the prosecutor pay any price for this?
No.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (/PCJa)

111 The upper-middle class women who spend enormous time and money to provide a "stimulating" environment have smart kids because ... the mom and dad were smart.

The smart and dumb kids already separate out by age 5. And the dumb kids brains can't be magically made smart by having good teachers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (ZPrif)

112 I was reading the lefties and FSA tweets on the hashtag #racheljeantel

They think she "owned" the prosecutor and frustrated him with her steadfast refusal to back down

We are absolutely truly fucking boned

But no one knows as long as the TV and Obamaphone still works

Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2013 01:01 PM (/9IC1)

113 Ms. Jeantel is the new Anita Hill. Truth does not matter. There is someone who needs to be destroyed.

But unlike Anita Hill, Jeantel is not so articulate as to say things as 'long dong silver.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 01:01 PM (dV6An)

114 I agree. Illiterates can write stuff, too. Maybe with a little help sometimes.
Posted by: Joseph Smith at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (ZPrif)
-------------

Joseph Smith may not have had much of a formal education, but he could read. His recounting includes the tid-bit that he was reading the Bible (it would have been the King James version) while still a teenager. How many of today's high school graduates could do the same?

Posted by: junior at June 27, 2013 01:01 PM (UWFpX)

115 "
Gah! Wouldn't that rot the teeth out of your head in one evening?"

Well, it might, but either way it's not exactly a very manly drink.

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:01 PM (6KiQ+)

116 53 I once heard/read about a skittles/juice concoction but can't for the life of me remember what it was...I seem to recall it wasn't an innocent snack as the media/prosecution would have you believe.....

anyone know?
Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (qdzWt)

It was mentioned here. At work so I can't search. But it may have been an alternative for purple drank.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 27, 2013 01:01 PM (+9Xe/)

117 Who wrote the letter for her? The prosecution? Traypon's parents? Can they be held in contempt/perjury?


Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (jvd3N)

118 If I were the corrupt prosecutor, I would be getting a tad nervous when my "star witness" turned out to be retarded Jabba the Hut.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (OlN4e)

119 113 "Ms. Jeantel is the new Anita Hill. Truth does not matter. There is someone who needs to be destroyed."

It's not the truthfulness of the accusation, it's the gravity of the charge that counts.

Posted by: Ghost of Rush Limbaugh at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (mV5Rx)

120
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (ZPrif)

IQ is a mostly useless statistic though. It correlates with a lot of things, but is causative of nothing.
Trust me when I say there are hordes of people with lower IQs than me doing better than I by many many measures.
Also there are fewer people with higher IQs than me doing worse than me. (More doing better, some doing the same, but you get the point.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (GaqMa)

121 After Duke Lacross fiasco, public has a greater sense of prosecutorial misconduct. It ties in so nicely with the out of control Federal Government. If it can be proved they actually made this up, I'd gamble prosecutor does some time.

Posted by: akula_51 at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (Vgn84)

122
A 19 year old 11th grader. So.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (kdS6q)

123
46 I smell the loss of a law license for a certain corrupt prosecutor. Disbarrment, and mebbe even a little slammertime.
Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 12:51 PM (OlN4e)

Olfactory fail!
What you actually smell is the 2014 Florida Democrat Attorney General.

Posted by: Warthog at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (WDySP)

124 Isn't that like, you know, a crime?

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (OtQXp)

Pssshhhaw. Prosecutorial discretion, bitches.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (fwARV)

125 Jenteal. Do momma and daddy... oh wait... does momma know that she named her daughter after a 1980's porn star?

Posted by: IronDioPriest at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (1dJQd)

126 CURSIVENADO

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (uvaJ1)

127 IQ is mostly heritable. Quality of education has zero impact. Tiny impact for early childhood education.



Little can actually boost IQ -- best you can do is avoid things that
permanently lower IQ. Early childhood disease, for example. Abuse.
Severe neglect.



But if you feed your kids and provide a normal, safe environment -- it's mainly down to genes and luck.


Care to wager a dollar?

Posted by: Mortimer Duke at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (eV1I0)

128 I do kinda like when West throws her words back at her....why you following me for....crackah ass.... West looks semi-uncomfortable....but the judge has said to use her words

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (qdzWt)

129 "By federal law, IEP students have,"

I guess its a good thing I have no idea what an IEP student is.

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (CMlD4)

130 It's not the truthfulness of the accusation, it's the gravity of the charge that counts.


Posted by: Ghost of Rush Limbaugh at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM



Word.

Posted by: Mike Nifong at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (bAGA/)

131 This girl has been failed by everyone. Her parents, her teachers, her friends. It's really very sad, and a damning indictment of our public school system.

Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (wsGWu)

132 10 bucks she gets her own TV show.

Posted by: Moss Berg at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (JwUOg)

133
The young woman is 19--and will be a senior in high school next year, so maybe she'll be 20 when she gets her "social promotion" diploma.

I doubt that anybody has ever, or will ever, confuse her with even a moderately sharp pencil in the box; she sure as heck will never be the sharpest one.

Functional illiteracy is a tragedy.

Posted by: Skeptical Voter at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (RZP0w)

134 I think we've found a Low Information Voter.

That's an insult to lefty retards. We've found our first ZIV.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (FcR7P)

135 She can vote, though.

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 27, 2013 12:44 PM (6H6o




We're boned.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (GQ8sn)

136


The good old US Govt sure does seem to be all powerful now huh...guess no one could see that shit coming with electing a huge leftist moron.

NAH.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (HQml1)

137 I blame Bush, and creepy white crackers!

Posted by: RallySash at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (n1YFn)

138 Okay, slightly OT, but the "Drank" or "Lean" concoction got me thinking about this-

Who comes up with these weird combinations?

Skittles, Arizona Tea, and Robitussin?

Tylenol (w Codine) and... I don't remember the rest (it was big here in the Metroplex for a while- I think the last of the people taking it killed themselves though).

Who comes up with these things? And why?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (/PCJa)

139 "Joseph Smith may not have had much of a formal education, but he could read."

Could he ever.

Posted by: Solomon Spaulding at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (mV5Rx)

140 You Crackers need to stop making fun of this beautiful Girl....

And Girlfriend? come on over here... I heard you need a job, so I'll show you how to get ELECTED...

Posted by: Macine Waters at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (lZBBB)

141 58
No no, she didn't say she could "hear" wet grass over the phone.

She smelled wet grass over the phone...


Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 27, 2013 12:53 PM (wtvvX)

It was an Obamaphone, she could see the wet grazz, wingerz!!!

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (FIDMq)

142 I was reading the lefties and FSA tweets on the hashtag #racheljeantel

They think she "owned" the prosecutor and frustrated him with her steadfast refusal to back down

We are absolutely truly fucking boned

But no one knows as long as the TV and Obamaphone still works



Posted by: at June 27, 2013 01:01 PM (/9IC1)

****



These are the LIV's we are losing too. Free shit trumps freedom.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (jvd3N)

143 On a serious note-

Yes, assuredly she had someone write the letter. The issue is, was that person crafting the narrative, or just transcribing? And who was it?

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (Hfjmb)

144 If I were the corrupt prosecutor, I would be getting
a tad nervous when my "star witness" turned out to be retarded Jabba
the Hut.

Posted by: maddogg
--------------

Heck..., it worked for Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (aDwsi)

145
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (f9c2L)

You trust your fellow man far to much.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (GaqMa)

146 Give a dumb kid to smart parents and you get ... a dumb kid.

Give a smart kid to dumb parents and you get .. a smart kid.

Best way to raise IQ of low IQ countries is disease prevention. Disease-load has big impact in Africa and India and other tropical countries.

Resources devoted to fighting infection in an infant or toddler are resources not put into building neural connections.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (ZPrif)

147 It's amazing that people can get out of school with such deficiencies,

Probably more along the lines of, "...and never darken our halls again!"

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in his happy place at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (zUi7I)

148 Matlock is probably sporting wood.

My minion thought I was cackling over software.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (/kI1Q)

149 I guess its a good thing I have no idea what an IEP student is.

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (CMlD4)

Individual Education Program.

I had one because my parents believed getting a C in math meant an otherwise A student had ADHD.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (fwARV)

150 I'm trying to decide if Jenteal has any redeeming qualities. So far I got nuttin'

Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (Cs2tJ)

151 She doesn't come across to me as stupid as much as ignorant. She knows how to function in "her reality". We are seeing what happens when functionality in one realm intersects with what society expects. As long as she didn't have to swim in the waters of clear diction and not lying as you see fit to get by, then she comes across as less than credible and her testimony is beyond use for anything.

She has clearly made up whatever suits her and those around her and is probably not telling all she knows... ie, that Trayvon was casing the area and was a criminal with intent... but that's where , based on my watching of a lot of Hawaii 5-0, I learned about criminals and their inability to break out of the lifestyle, once started..

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (/jHWN)

152 Ladies and gentlemen, my new Secretary of Learnin and Sh*t!

Posted by: President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (uvaJ1)

153 " Little can actually boost IQ -- best you can do is avoid things that permanently lower IQ. Early childhood disease, for example. Abuse. Severe neglect. "

No, but anyone, even someone with an actual intellectual disability, can be taught proper grammar.

Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (wsGWu)

154 111 The upper-middle class women who spend enormous time and money to provide a "stimulating" environment have smart kids because ... the mom and dad were smart.

The smart and dumb kids already separate out by age 5. And the dumb kids brains can't be magically made smart by having good teachers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (ZPrif)



Don't believe it. Kids nutritionally malnourished don't develop to their full physical potential. A dumb kid is an intellectually malnourished kid. (Let's see you become literate without a teacher or reading material)

We have a problem with LIVs because of how the education system has been dismantled and transformed into a socialism breeding pit; not because the "wrong people" were breeding.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (oY6Yp)

155 Yow. Seven people bitten by rabid racoons. If you are from the North, stay away from NC!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (aDwsi)

156 This girl has been failed by everyone. Her parents, her teachers, her friends.

"It Takes A Village". Errr, I mean, I have a concussion.

Posted by: Hillary! at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (FcR7P)

157 I have been following this as best as I can while at work and as of now, the states case seems to hinge on the fact that Trayvon had Skittles and Ice Tea. Thats about it. The sad thing is as we have all seen with jury trials, it maybe enough to convict.

Here is what I would like to ask the lawyer types here... if the state needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt but the states witnesses do not seem to be sure of what happened beyond a reasonable doubt, how does the state get beyond the reasonable doubt? Besides of course the Skittles and Ice Tea.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (C2//T)

158 Who comes up with these things? And why?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (/PCJa)


Very very bored 7-11 Employees?

Abu's Son? as he works the Graveyard shift at the SquishyMart?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (lZBBB)

159 I guess its a good thing I have no idea what an IEP student is.

Special Ed. "IEP" is "Individual (or Individualized) Education Plan."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (/PCJa)

160
Jenteal. Do momma and daddy... oh wait... does momma know that she named her daughter after a 1980's porn star?

Isn't that her last name? Her given name is Rachel.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (gZfUw)

161 If there's no consequence to screwing up, there's no motivation to avoid it.

Posted by: alexthechick


Consequences are for UnPeople.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (XS/b3)

162 Care to wager a dollar?


Posted by: Mortimer Duke at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (eV1I0)


You and your Nobel Prize, you idiot!

Posted by: Randolph Duke at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (8ZskC)

163 I'm obviously raaaaaacist.

Posted by: Cursive Handwriting at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (RGgMp)

164 Hey, they wrote the Constitution in cursive.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows your telescreen is watching you fap at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (sBruU)

165 Look at this rubbish that Russell Simmons is pimping on Twitter ..

Russell Simmons ‏@UncleRUSH 3h

POWERFUL BLOG by @RachelSamara: What White People Don't Understand About Rachel Jeantel...

http://bit.ly/11PEcpv #ZimmermanTrial

Retweeted 465 times


Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (/9IC1)

166 By federal law, IEP students have, I believe, until age 22 to graduate.


What a fucking high school football team that would be!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (ix+5k)

167 Posted by: Solomon Spaulding at June 27, 2013 01:04 PM (mV5Rx)

I defy the Left to find a political blog with this kind of commenting.

[Spalding....no "u"]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (WW8xK)

168 It was hilarious when West asked her to tell him what wet grass sounds like.....you could see the wheels turning....she was dumbfounded...hemmed and hawed and then said....like a leaf?.....heh

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:07 PM (qdzWt)

169 Maybe she used the Obama/Hillary magical auto-pen that signs executive orders and state department memos without the authors knowledge.

Posted by: Artesian at June 27, 2013 01:07 PM (sYfaz)

170
Including herself. Education is there for those who seek it.

And smartphones. You have the world's largest library in the palm of your hand. Whether or not you choose to use it is up to you.

Her testimony is a scathing indictment of our edumakashonul sistum. We can all thank little Billy Ayers and his despicable ilk for this fiasco.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 01:07 PM (0HooB)

171 After spending all day yesterday in jury duty, I want to fry everyone and let God sort it out.

Posted by: Jaimo at June 27, 2013 01:07 PM (9U1OG)

172 Disease-load is actually a problem in South Florida.
There's actually an IQ differential among whites north to south that is likely due in large part to greater disease in the warmer south. There's also different white ethnic groups that settled the north and south.

Cold sucks, but one good thing is it kills a lot of stuff that makes kids sick.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:07 PM (ZPrif)

173 > Skittles, Arizona Tea, and Robitussin?

Drinking Robitussin isn't anything new. Some people in my social circle in high school did it regularly, and that was twenty some years ago, although they called it Robo.

My brother had a friend in middle school who died in his garage sniffing gasoline from a snowmobile. His parents tried to make it out like an accident, but he did it all the time. Unfortunately kids doing dumb shit to get high isn't a new phenomenon.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 01:07 PM (ZWvOb)

174 As a star witness goes, I don't think Trey Gowdy would have gone with retarded Jabba.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 01:08 PM (OlN4e)

175 86.. lol.. thread winner!

Posted by: Jewells45trying to keep from going crazy at June 27, 2013 01:08 PM (u25eL)

176 166 "What a fucking high school football team that would be!"

Grades are usually a block to that (depending on how closely a district hews to its own participation rules) but as Bill Cosby once observed, some of them go on to be the finest quarterbacks in the league.

Posted by: SpEd at June 27, 2013 01:08 PM (mV5Rx)

177 >>> 156 This girl has been failed by everyone. Her parents, her teachers, her friends. "It Takes A Village".

Errr, I mean, I have a concussion. Posted by: Hillary! at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (FcR7P)



What does it even matter?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 27, 2013 01:08 PM (v3pYe)

178 Fake but Accurate!

Courage!

Posted by: Dan Rather, where is he now? at June 27, 2013 01:08 PM (RFeQD)

179 Couldn't the defense demand a writing sample from her and compare that to the letter?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at June 27, 2013 01:08 PM (AWmfW)

180 No, but anyone, even someone with an actual intellectual disability, can be taught proper grammar.

Posted by: Lauren
-----------------

By Helen Keller, blind, deaf, and speechless. Today would be her birthday :


"The mystery of language was revealed to me. I knew than that
"w-a-t-e-r"

meant the wonderful cool something that was flowing over my hand. That


living word awakened my soul, gave it light, joy, set it
free!"


Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (aDwsi)

181 She actually used the word "cursive"? Interesting.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (eEfYn)

182 Wait . . . wasn't there a post here yesterday talking about how poorly West was at cross-examining this future public school teacher?

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (5fSr7)

183 If only she were literate (an had an IQ above room temp) she would have saved herself the embarrassment (assuming she is capable of feeling that emotion).

I still can't believe this girl has ever even walked *past* a school. Whatever school she attended needs to be burned to the ground and the teachers and administrators incarcerated for fraud and child abuse.

And I hope she goes to jail for lying under oath. (And the prosecution for suborning perjury.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (r+7wo)

184 cursive = racism

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (El+h4)

185 Fake but Accurate!



Courage!

Posted by: Dan Rather
---------------------

Whats the frequency Kenneth?!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (aDwsi)

186 Believe what you want, you might want to read some of the scientific literature. The relationship between disease-load and IQ is well-established.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (ZPrif)

187 "I guess its a good thing I have no idea what an IEP student is."

***

I Exemplify Progressivism

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (6KiQ+)

188 Wet Grass Rustling
Tray and Cracker Scuffleing
DeeDee Mumbling


Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (jvd3N)

189 Defense should have asked who the "friend" was who wrote the letter. It would not surprise me if it was Crump or another member of League of Grievance. I guess I need to find a live feed.

Posted by: Thatch at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (qYvEa)

190 I love her gold grill. Did they buy her that for her lies?

Posted by: assclownspotter at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (vC6Bj)

191 Wait . . . wasn't there a post here yesterday talking about how poorly West was at cross-examining this future public school teacher?

There were some who were saying that in the comments, but I think the general idea was that, no, he was playing this as correctly as he could- let her completely discredit herself all on her own.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (/PCJa)

192 71 55
It's amazing that people can get out of school with such deficiencies,

She is 19 and just now a senior.....I was 16 when I graduated HS
Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:55 PM (qdzWt)

So was I, but a good deal of my education was obtained by joining the USAF and by actively seeking it out.

I remember seeing a Jay Leno Jay-walking video, probably posted here, in which Leno interviewed a black couple in their forties and the father of one of them---a man in his eighties.

Jay asked his usual questions and neither the younger man, nor the woman could answer them correctly. Then he turned to the old man and asked him the same questions; he knocked every question out of the park.

Some commenter pointed out that the old man probably went to segregated, southern schools. Probably barely subsidized, I would add.

That video is a testament to the miseducation and indoctrination perpetrated by Leftists on the vast majority of blacks for the past 50 years.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (n9F1h)

193 "a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her" There's a BIG part of me that feels sorry for the USA, knowing we somehow have to survive as a nation despite the burden of supporting millions of citizens like her. We're f@cking doomed.

Posted by: gp at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (+Jpqc)

194 And I hope she goes to jail for lying under oath. (And the prosecution for suborning perjury.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (r+7wo)



Yup.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (KXm42)

195 http://fullduplex.org/tardblog/


Ms. Jenteal is in there. I guarantee it.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (GQ8sn)

196 Of course, if we were a nation that believed in the rule of law, George Zimmerman would not be on trial right now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:58 PM (/PCJa)


=======

Ah yes, silly me.

*headdesk*

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (OtQXp)

197 I see legal commenters and msm reporting that it did not help the defense to expose her as illiterate. lol!

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (RZwdH)

198 I am so stealing this comment:

87
So long as she can make change for a forty and a dime bag, she ain't gotta read. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Kim at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (ICqvM)

199 I can write cursive but I can't read it. Uhuh.

Oh, and they should have just checked for the percentage of misspelled words and the number of words with more than 4 or 5 letters. If the former was low and the latter high, that would be a sure sign of fraud.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (r+7wo)

200
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (ZPrif)

IQ true but even a 10pt difference in IQ does not necessarily arrive us at the point we are now.
Also, Flynn effect. Any discussion of IQ is woefully inadequate without mentioning the Flynn Effect.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (GaqMa)

201 182 Wait . . . wasn't there a post here yesterday talking about how poorly West was at cross-examining this future public school teacher?
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at June 27, 2013 01:09 PM (5fSr7)


Someone quoted a talking head from somewhere. Opinions are cheap.

Professional armchair quarterbacking has now been joined by armchair lawyering!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (oY6Yp)

202 Wet Grass Rustling
Tray and Cracker Scuffleing
DeeDee Mumbling

----------------

Maya? Maya Angelou? Is that you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (aDwsi)

203 End of days:

"As the sun goes down in the West, behind the hill, into shadow... how did we come to this?"...

Posted by: USNA1985 at June 27, 2013 01:12 PM (lH5al)

204 "What White People Don't Understand About Rachel Jeantel... "

****

Oh, we understand more than you think, Rusty.

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:12 PM (6KiQ+)

205 Then you have all those people with her while she is being interviewed by the DA. What bullshit!

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:12 PM (RZwdH)

206 After spending all day yesterday in jury duty, I want to fry everyone and let God sort it out.
----------------

The last time I had jury duty, my group ended up with a case that I knew I didn't have the proverbial snowball's chance of serving on. There was simply no way that the defense attorneys would let me stay in the box. I had so many reasons for the defense to object to my presence, that if I'd been trying to dodge the duty I wouldn't have come up with as many reasons as I did. So what happened?

I was the *last* person in my group called up into the box. A second group of juries was sent from the jury room on the third day, but the court finished up with my group before they started on the second group, and I was the very last person called from that group. Not only that, but after I was finished rattling off all of my reasons, the defense kept me in the box... and then didn't get rid of me until first thing the next morning. So I basically had to make an additional trip down to the courthouse just so that the defense attorneys could send me on my way.

I was just a little bit annoyed about the whole thing...

Posted by: junior at June 27, 2013 01:12 PM (UWFpX)

207 Cursive writing is a boot on the neck of the oppressed black man.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (8ZskC)

208 The relationship between disease-load and IQ is well-established.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe
------------

Great. I wasn't so bright before I contracted whatever-the-hell it is that I have.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (aDwsi)

209 the old man probably went to segregated, southern schools.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (n9F1h)

Exactly.

Thomas Sowell writes eloquently about the rise of the Black middle class, and how it got stomped on by the Democrats and the Great Society.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (WW8xK)

210 That is some mighty good lawyerin'...Figuring out the gal can't read.

Posted by: sTevo at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (U6PH8)

211 It's not true that IQ can't (or only rarely can) be improved. I remember reading about some anti-death-penalty group that tried to get various criminals spared by showing them to be too mentally deficient to qualify for the death penalty. It backfired when the inmates' IQ scores actually went up after working with the advocates and lawyers over the course of about a year.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (GiHi3)

212 So, would you say that wet grass over a cell phone sounds like:

1. Swish, swish, swish

-or-

2. Slosh, slosh, slosh

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (mvenn)

213 That video is a testament to the miseducation and indoctrination perpetrated by Leftists on the vast majority of blacks for the past 50 years.

Somewhere in hell that pig-fucker LBJ is cackling on his perch.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (KXm42)

214 Some prosecutors think frames look better on people than on paintings.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (hLRSq)

215
She doesn't read cursive? Or, is she saying that she didn't write the statement?

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (RZwdH)

216 Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 12:52 PM (qdzWt)

it's Purple Drank. arizona watermellon, skittles and cough syrup w/ codeine. Trayvon posted about it in his face book or twitter but his drug use is barred from the trial.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (HEa5q)

217 Of course she could not read it, don't you know lawyer's have crappy handwriting!

Posted by: Penfold at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (Fbt5B)

218
She talks like Jose Conseco writes Haiku..... without the pentameter.


Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (nELVU)

219 Cicero -- If you've been listening, any take on the trial today? Is sympathy for the girl going to affect the defense?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (aDwsi)

220 did anyone ever get the kid waiting at home his skittles?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (8JJ6O)

221 This should have been typed on a 1967 IBM Selectric.

Here, I have one right here.

Posted by: Dan Rather, where is he now? at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (RFeQD)

222 215

both....but she'll take it back when questioned again.....and end it with "sir"

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (qdzWt)

223 could the Defense now send a Warrant to the NSA?

We hadn't been able to figure out her encryption algorithm, but now you're saying there wasn't one?

Posted by: The NSA at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (FcR7P)

224 Many of you probably wouldn't be surprise to learn just how many typical high school students favor print over cursive because (believe it or not) cursive is rarely taught in the lower grades anymore. In fact, many districts do not bother because state standards - the end-all, be-all - do not require it. Sad but true.

However, there is no such thing as a student who can write cursive who, at the same time, cannot read it.

Posted by: Edumucator at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (mV5Rx)

225 > Individual Education Program.

My younger son has one due to a stroke he suffered around birth. He was speech delayed, had some weakness on one side, and is still a little reading delayed, but he's come a long way.

My only complaint about Special Ed is that a lot of teachers seem to want to just give him a pass on stuff. I am insistent he do all the work any of the other kids do. Like I tell his teachers, once he gets out in the real world he's not going to get a break on anything. The little guy is a fighter and doesn't give up though. Taught himself to ride a bike without training wheels at 4. Kept falling down and getting back up, told me to leave him be until he figured it out.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (ZWvOb)

226 Perhaps if it were written in cursive Ebonics?

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (6KiQ+)

227 I often wake up in the middle of the night when the dew gets on the grass and the grass starts to sing.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (HDgX3)

228 207 Cursive writing is a boot on the neck of the oppressed black man.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (8ZskC)


Judging by the size of her neck, someone has been standing on it...

I sure hope her parents took her to a doctor.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (RZwdH)

229 Wet Grass Rustling
Tray and Cracker Scuffleing
DeeDee Mumbling


A 4-6-4 haiku with a glaring misspelling? Good enough for an A- anymore.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (/kI1Q)

230 her 8th grade english teacher shoudl be on trial.

Posted by: dillhole12 at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (uURnG)

231 It's always a "painfully embarassing moment" when you get caught perjuring yourself and someone's freedom is on the line.

Posted by: Penfold at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (Fbt5B)

232 Oh stewardess, I speak cursive.

Posted by: Barbara Billingsley at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (BrQrN)

233 Junior, I was kept on a jury when I worked with one of the cops testifying. Hung around for three days, then they too a plea. It was insane.

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (CMlD4)

234 Can hear wet grass over the phone...damn joint keeps going out...alls I cans hear is his damn lighter.

Posted by: sTevo at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (U6PH8)

235 This girl has been failed by everyone. Her parents, her teachers, her friends. It's really very sad, and a damning indictment of our public school system.

Posted by: Lauren


The Tragedy of the Commons; when everyone's responsible, no one is.

Gee, I wonder why the Left is so hot to replace parenthood with an omnipotent State?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (XS/b3)

236 17 There's no education system in the world that can fix stupid.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (ZPrif)

But there is one that produces it.

Posted by: rockhead at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (jtTKf)

237
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (GiHi3)

IQ tests are riddled with problems.
Again, as a practical matter it gives you very little actual information.
A 3 year old with a genius IQ, left without any intellectual stimulation would eventually devolve into an idiot. (Granted leaving a genius completely devoid of any way to learn is surprisingly hard.)
The real problem is the marginal cases. There are lots of people who likely fall in the broad range of normal, but we have a society that has left them totally devoid of intellectual activity and so atrophy sets in.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (GaqMa)

238 If I had a daughter, she would be just like Jeantel.

Oh, wait, that's right. I do have two daughters and they go to Sidwell Friends, and exclusive school in Washington, DC.

Never mind.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Smith at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (RFeQD)

239 There might be some sympathy for her if she wasn't such a snotty beeatch. She's saying "sir", but it's in a very disrespectful way.

Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (bj+Nc)

240 I never liked cursive. Not then not now. I always printed.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (KXm42)

241
"There's a BIG part of me that feels sorry for the USA, knowing we somehow have to survive as a nation despite the burden of supporting millions of citizens like her. We're f@cking doomed."

I'd love to argue this with you...but I can't. Someone please tell me where to run in order to escape this!

Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (4I3Uo)

242 The Flynn effect has effectively stopped in recent decades in rich countries.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that an individual's IQ is basically fixed by age 5 or so. Which means the vast majority of the education system can not boost it.

How smart you are is mostly, 60%+, heritable. Same with height.

And just like height, you reaching your maximum is mainly about avoiding disease, injury, and malnutrition. But the maximum is mostly set by your genes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (ZPrif)

243 In deepest darkest Africa, our schools didn't teach cursive, but we did learn how to write (and read, too). And writing in all caps would probably have gotten you caned by the teacher.

I still can't believe how illiterate that girl is in the US of A for goodness sake.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (r+7wo)

244
My dog loves to roll around in wet grass and would be an expert on the sounds it makes. He's available for consultation and/or expert testimony.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (RZwdH)

245 Knock knock.

Who's there?

Il.

Il who?

Illiterate, unconvincing, perjurous sham witness created and pimped by racist, railroading prosecutors, that's who you white mother-fucking cracker bitches who won't admit that Trayvon was killed for walking while black **beats "trial nails" on witness box railing for emphasis **

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (8/DeP)

246 226 Perhaps if it were written in cursive Ebonics?


Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (6KiQ+)

Wait... that looks like Sanskrit? with a bit of Farsi thrown in?

Posted by: NSA Translator at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (lZBBB)

247 I've lived in the ghetto. Unfortunately, she's the norm.

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (6H6o8)

248 There might be some sympathy for her if she wasn't
such a snotty beeatch. She's saying "sir", but it's in a very
disrespectful way.


Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (bj+Nc)

----
Should have heard her say "WUT?!?!?!" at the end of testimony yesterday.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (nELVU)

249 I'm seriously questioning my pro-life stance after watching Janteal.

Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (Cs2tJ)

250 203
"End of days:



As the sun goes down in the West, behind the hill, into shadow... how did we come to this?..."

You know, I asked the same damn thing. The answer is 'people.'

Posted by: Sol Roth (orange, please) at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (mV5Rx)

251 Cicero -- If you've been listening, any take on the trial today? Is sympathy for the girl going to affect the defense?


I've only seen what's on the blog. I will say generally that gauging the handling an important adverse witness is an art, not a science. Assessing the jury is the key to it.

If I've got a decent middle-class jury I know how they think and can proceed with some confidence. If I have dregs, then its a crap shoot.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (8ZskC)

252 Many of you probably wouldn't be surprise to learn just how many typical high school students favor print over cursive because (believe it or not) cursive is rarely taught in the lower grades anymore.

I never used cursive after 4th grade. The reason? Teachers didn't want to deal with reading the terrible cursive of 4th graders (who, even in 5th grade and up, never got better- because we never had to practice).

That said- I have never needed to write using cursive in my professional life. I've had to read it some (and some people who think they can write in cursive, really shouldn't), but never write in the style.

It's not exactly a necessary life skill.

The only reason it's important here is if she was claiming she wrote (as in: hand wrote) the letter- since obviously she could not have done so.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (/PCJa)

253 @chique d'afrique

What you will really knock you on your butt is how much taxpayers paid for her illiteracy.

Posted by: Penfold at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (Fbt5B)

254 My only complaint about Special Ed is that a lot of teachers seem to want to just give him a pass on stuff.

How dare you expect them to do anything more than shuffle his paperwork.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (/kI1Q)

255 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (/kI1Q)

***

I think you can get the obligatory haiku syllable count if you add the "ul" syllable in rust-ul-ing, scuff-ul-ing, mumb-ul-ing, etc.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (mvenn)

256 Oh stewardess, I speak grass.

Posted by: Barbara Billingsley at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (Kppp9)

257 If you like pina coladas, getting caught in the rain

Posted by: That 70s Earworm at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (3ZtZW)

258
Posted by: Edumucator at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (mV5Rx)

I learned cursive. I suppose I can still read it (I haven't actually seen any in a while)
But I have hand eye coordination problems, so I prefer print so much more. Something about the flow of cursive that I simply cannot do, everything comes out illegible or very slowly (defeating the whole point.). I basically gave up on cursive around grade 7 when I didn't have to learn it anymore.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (GaqMa)

259 Cursive for Dummies

Posted by: John Robert Gregg at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (e8kgV)

260 Ms Jeantel is all the explanation you need when someone asks "how do complete idiots like Hank Johnson, Maxine Waters, or Cynthia McKinney get elected"

Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (/9IC1)

261 186 Believe what you want, you might want to read some of the scientific literature. The relationship between disease-load and IQ is well-established.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (ZPrif)



Disease load is an environmental factor that affects development of potential, which supports my point that smart and dumb is more than just dumb/smart parent genetics.

Considering the importance of parenting, at least part of the measurable difference in results between "smart"/"dumb" parents is linked to their ability to setup a learning environment like they themselves enjoyed.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (v3pYe)

262 And immediately after this bombshell revelation the defense demanded that all charges be dropped and Zimmerman released immediately, right?

No that didn't happen? Huh?

Oh, that's right...we live in a banana republic where the obvious is avoided because RAYCISS!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (V1ZIU)

263 Kept falling down and getting back up, told me to leave him be until he figured it out.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen
-----------------------

Tenacity is generally much more important than smarts, besides, that's all that I have.

"Genius is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration." -- Thomas Edison.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (aDwsi)

264 240 I never liked cursive. Not then not now. I always printed.


Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (KXm42)


They have not taught it in school for years... my kids (22 year old twins) never learned in Colorado.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (lZBBB)

265 Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 01:15 PM (ZWvOb)

Be careful with that whole "hold him to a high standard" shit.

He might be successful, and then he won't get an EBT and Section 8 and all sorts of neat stuff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (WW8xK)

266 She doesn't read cursive.

Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (wsGWu)

267 I write with a very distinct, flowing cursive. It's been described as 'girly' and 'delicate' and 'fancy'.

Usually though, people just find it odd thata 32 year-old male writes anything instead of printing or typing.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (fwARV)

268 Does 'cursive' mean there are lots of swear words in the letter?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (mvenn)

269 Also, in deepest darkest Africa, we could read cursive even if we weren't taught how to write it.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (r+7wo)

270 I still can't believe how illiterate that girl is in the US of A for goodness sake.
---------------

Sadly, it's because calling attention to her illiteracy brings charges of "Raaaacism!"

Even if the person calling attention to her illiteracy is Bill Cosby.

Posted by: junior at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (UWFpX)

271 Two words: Directed verdict

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (8/DeP)

272 "Genius is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration." -- Thomas Edison.


Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (aDwsi)


Sigh.... incorrect as usual...

Posted by: Nicholi Tesla at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

273 No way they get beyond a reasonable doubt with her.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (zOTsN)

274 > My dog loves to roll around in wet grass

You spelled dead animals wrong. Or maybe it's only my dog.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (ZWvOb)

275 You know, I understand the disgust with this witness and her compatriot, the Obamaphone lady.

However, we should also be horrified at the waste. Look at this girl. Her life is nothing but sex, drugs, trash talk, music and TV, and eating. I bet she cannot find Senegal on a map. I bet she doesn't even know what Senegal is.

Always bored, hence the looking for thrills in drugs and sex. Shuffling through life in a constant state of beweilderment, not understand how government works, or taxes, or history, her physical health or even weather. To her, these things are just things that happen to her with no explanation. Constantly confused, knowing there is a secret she doesn't have, bored and resentful.

This is the product of poor family life and poor education (which caused the poor family life).

Now look at the students of Dakur. They are learning correct English and French. They are dressed well. They are not overweight. They have purpose and dignity.

The left, as I said, is a destroyer of minds and souls.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (GoIUi)

276 Yet they all know Blackletter when they are tagging buildings...

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (RZwdH)

277 Most retweets of the defensive nature of Jeantel's testimony ..

"George Zimmerman is on trial, not Rachel Jeantel"

The stupid, it burns

Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (/9IC1)

278
In a painfully embarassing moment, Rachel Jeantel was asked to read the letter out loud in court.


"Are you able to read that at all?" defense attorney Don West asked.


Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."


It sent a hush through the packed courtroom.

Jeantel, 19, was unable to read any of the letter save for her name.

This is like signing a letter written in a language you don't read or write or speak and taking someone's word that it's what you want to say.

It's also like voting for a bill without reading it.

Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (/b8+5)

279 Should have heard her say "WUT?!?!?!" at the end of testimony yesterday.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (nELVU)

That was too funny.....and you know West was constantly messing with her....especially when she would say "you listenin?" and he'd say "I'm sorry I was distracted, can you say that again?" heh....pure gold

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (qdzWt)

280 268 Does 'cursive' mean there are lots of swear words in the letter?


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (mvenn)


Thread Winnah!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

281 I was going to compare her to a whale, but whales are intelligent animals.

But she'll graduate from high-school this year.

Posted by: Gerard Harbison at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (oiiqn)

282 Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (GaqMa)

I'm left-handed. So add in the smear of the ink or the graphite across the page, making it almost completely unintelligible.

Wait! Am I in a protected class?

Who can I sue?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:22 PM (WW8xK)

283 I'm guessing Crumb had someone write that letter for her. He never expected this to get to trial - he just wanted an arrest so he could soak the HOA's insurance company. Now he is exposed and if the State gets hammered here, they may come looking for heads. DeeDee there isn't going to take any heat at all, she will give up Crumb in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:22 PM (CMlD4)

284 225
> Individual Education Program.



My younger son has one due to a stroke he suffered around birth. He
was speech delayed, had some weakness on one side, and is still a
little reading delayed, but he's come a long way.



My only complaint about Special Ed is that a lot of teachers seem to
want to just give him a pass on stuff. I am insistent he do all the
work any of the other kids do. Like I tell his teachers, once he gets
out in the real world he's not going to get a break on anything. The
little guy is a fighter and doesn't give up though. Taught himself to
ride a bike without training wheels at 4. Kept falling down and getting
back up, told me to leave him be until he figured it out.

* * *

Hold their feet to the fire of FAPE. Just don't allow them to define down what "appropriate" entails for your son to make their own jobs easier.

You know the IEP is a legally binding contract...if it's in there, they must do it or else. See that it gets in there. Don't rely on the progress reports they send to you. Ask questions. Tell your son to keep you informed.

Posted by: Sol Roth (orange, please) at June 27, 2013 01:22 PM (mV5Rx)

285 Hot legal chick on HLN just said 'bye bye murder 2, bye bye manslaughter'.

Posted by: tony redenzo at June 27, 2013 01:22 PM (LwRkC)

286 274 > My dog loves to roll around in wet grass

You spelled dead animals wrong. Or maybe it's only my dog.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (ZWvOb)


Yeah, well, that, too. And manure...

Nothing like a little dab behind the ears and on the back to make them smell sweet for their man!

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:22 PM (RZwdH)

287 She is no different than her parents.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (zOTsN)

288 It's also like voting for a bill without reading it.


Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (/b8+5)


Its like voting for someone when you don't really know their past?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (lZBBB)

289 I think you can get the obligatory haiku syllable
count if you add the "ul" syllable in rust-ul-ing, scuff-ul-ing,
mumb-ul-ing, etc.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
-----------------

Racist! Uh..., wait..., I thought you said 'shuffling'. Never mind. Try to pretend that I never said it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (aDwsi)

290 Little can actually boost IQ -- best you can do is avoid things that

permanently lower IQ. Early childhood disease, for example. Abuse.

Severe neglect.


Drug use comes to mind in the present situation.

Posted by: platija de asalto now using BING and duckduckgo instead of google at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (Kkt/i)

291 What the Hell? You mean there is a whole nother alphabet?

Posted by: Cartman at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (6McTJ)

292 Fat, stupid and illiterate is no way to go through life girl.

Posted by: Jack at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (gWHwW)

293 > "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."


WTF it's not like reading Chinese or something!!

my god- today's youth are actual idiots- high functioning idiots, but idiots nonetheless


jesus this country is lost - 2nd look at Tasmania

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:23 PM (8sCoq)

294 She can always work for the State Department, hanging up on ambassadors.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:24 PM (FcR7P)

295 RE: 'Jeantel is not on trial'

IIRC, if you screw up hard enough, it could become your trial. Perjury and contempt and such.

Such ignorance, it must be willful (considering how commonsense it is that the court will. not. tolerate. your. s**t.)

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:24 PM (El+h4)

296 It's been described as 'girly' and 'delicate' and 'fancy'.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 01:20 PM (fwARV)

Well, to be fair, that's how we describe you around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:24 PM (WW8xK)

297 Cursive writing is a boot on the neck of the oppressed black man.


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (8ZskC)
**

Then Calligraphy must be a Guillotine.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:24 PM (jvd3N)

298
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:22 PM (WW8xK)

The wife is left handed.
Anytime we have to write something, (like thank you cards) I always have more ink than her on my hand.

It has to do with the fine motor skills I think, the way my pinky hangs over the line above while I'm trying to write as a way of balancing.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (GaqMa)

299 278

In a painfully embarassing moment, Rachel Jeantel was asked to read the letter out loud in court.



"Are you able to read that at all?" defense attorney Don West asked.


Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."


It sent a hush through the packed courtroom.



Jeantel, 19, was unable to read any of the letter save for her name.

This
is like signing a letter written in a language you don't read or write
or speak and taking someone's word that it's what you want to say.

It's also like voting for a bill without reading it.

* * *

Not seeing your point.

*glassy, artificially wide-eyed stare*

Posted by: That's Madame Pelosi to you at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (mV5Rx)

300 Sounds like St. Augustine, watered 1 hour ago, the right sprinklerhead needs adjusting.

Posted by: James T Afontilas - Audio Expert at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (FIDMq)

301 What you will really knock you on your butt is how much taxpayers paid for her illiteracy.
Posted by: Penfold at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (Fbt5B)

I know. I went to a fancy expensive private elementary school in my country and our tuition still wasn't close to the cost/student in the crappy inner city public schools here.

I won't even mention the govt. secondary school I went to where tuition was next to nothing and the environment was far from luxurious. (My poor sheltered self was horrified when I first entered the classroom after being in the fancy elementary school.) And we still managed to learn. Crazy, huh.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (r+7wo)

302 That was too funny.....and you know West was
constantly messing with her....especially when she would say "you
listenin?" and he'd say "I'm sorry I was distracted, can you say that
again?" heh....pure gold

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (qdzWt)
West seems to prefer to have her riled up. She comes across as petulant and hostile. And I think the reason he keeps repeating her answers back to her is so that the jury knows what the f**k she just said.

Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (bj+Nc)

303

you listen'
you listen'
you listen'

you can go now
you can go now
you can go now


She kept shouting these orders to the defense atty. I don't know why the judge didn't stop her. Annoying at hell.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (RZwdH)

304 >>"Genius is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration." -- Thomas Edison.

Sigh.... incorrect as usual...

Posted by: Nicholi Tesla


BAM!

Posted by: The Sirota of Troof at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (XS/b3)

305 What's even sadder is that she was valedictorian.

Posted by: cashpipe at June 27, 2013 01:26 PM (RJ9KU)

306 Well, to be fair, that's how we describe you around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:24 PM (WW8xK)

And I've been saying handwriting analysis is a bunch of bunk...

Hm... I may have to re-evaluate my stance. It appears I need to widen it out a bit.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 01:26 PM (fwARV)

307
FTR I use cursive every day

if I write a self-note or a list, it's in cursive- sign a birthday card, cursive


If you 'can't read cursive', I presume you can't WRITE cursive. which means you are PRINTING your signature, like a 1st grader

jeebus weeping crikey- we've become a nation of idiots

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:26 PM (8sCoq)

308 She kept shouting these orders to the defense atty. I don't know why the judge didn't stop her. Annoying at hell.
-------------

The defense probably wants her to keep it up. It makes her look bad in front of the jury.

Posted by: junior at June 27, 2013 01:26 PM (UWFpX)

309 #290

Yep, your max IQ is genetic, programs that make you learn faster and earlier will not boost your IQ. However, disease and abuse could permanently mess up your equipment making you perma-dumb.

Studies have proved that even the kids put in booster programs, by the time they were adults, had the same IQ they were projected to have otherwise, though they got there quicker.

This happens to be a racist truth and one reason why our current world-civilization has reached the apogee of its innovation and can go no further.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:26 PM (El+h4)

310 Sigh.... incorrect as usual...

Posted by: Nicholi Tesla at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

Tom could sure build nice machines, but he was not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Posted by: Charles Proteus Steinmetz at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (WW8xK)

311 Dog fucking whistle. Factually reporting a black woman cannot read cursive & waited for the first 48 team to find her for the wet grass smoking gun.. Chris Mathews heart is palpitating

Posted by: drivingtheview at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (VO28W)

312 150
I'm trying to decide if Jenteal has any redeeming qualities. So far I got nuttin'


Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (Cs2tJ)

She can hold down a couch like a mother fucker!

Posted by: platija de asalto now using BING and duckduckgo instead of google at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (Kkt/i)

313 What's even sadder is that she was valedictorian.

Your name is "Not Sure".

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (GQ8sn)

314 I heard on the radio that the "defense was trying to portray her as uneducated."


I guess asking her questions will do that.

Posted by: blaster at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (W6bkf)

315 Cursive we much...

Wonder how Al is doing with all this excellent testimony.

Posted by: sTevo at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (U6PH8)

316 Let her talk, pout, dissemble, mumble, evade, sneer and avoid.


Let the jury see it.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (zOTsN)

317 Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (GaqMa)

-----

Oh, I agree that IQ isn't the end-all, be-all. That's kind of supported by what I described---the inmates weren't any more or less criminal, weren't any better able to control impulses or think abstractly, after spending a year working closely with college-educated people. But, they did pick up more words and better grammar and thus changed their IQ without changing the important stuff.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (GmTxn)

318 >>>>111
The upper-middle class women who spend enormous time and money to
provide a "stimulating" environment have smart kids because ... the mom
and dad were smart.



The smart and dumb kids already separate out by age 5. And the dumb
kids brains can't be magically made smart by having good teachers>>>>
.

My son was put in a gifted program when he was in the 4th grade. The parents of the 20 or so children in this program met at the beginning of the year in the school. All, save one couple, had on thing in common, we were all older, late thirties to forties. I'm convinced nurture plays a roll.

Posted by: Javems at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (nTgAI)

319 Sigh.... incorrect as usual...

Posted by: Nicholi Tesla
---------------

Get off my lawn!..., you Balkan electrocutionist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (aDwsi)

320 Second look at Derbyshire!

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (45uEa)

321 If you like pina coladas, getting caught in the rain

Posted by: That 70s Earworm at June 27, 2013 01:19 PM (3ZtZW)

Someone left the cake out in the rain.

Posted by: Escalating to much worse 70s at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (B/VB5)

322 I see it was an embarrassing moment for Florida Fats to admit she is barely within the bell curve of literacy. And what makes anyone think she was embarrassed? If she looked in the mirror and wasn't embarrassed I would think she could jack off a chihuahua in church during the sermon without undue embarrassment.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (OlN4e)

323
There is a modified italic they can teach that is quite legible and nice looking. The high end schools teach it.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (RZwdH)

324 She can hold down a couch like a mother fucker!

Yes! Anyone got her number?

Posted by: Couchfucker at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (BrQrN)

325 I heard on the radio that the "defense was trying to portray her as uneducated."


I guess asking her questions will do that.

Posted by: blaster at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (W6bkf)

Dr. Pepper. Keyboard. Assembly no longer required.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (fwARV)

326 Barack Obama has two daughters, and neither one is educated like Rachael.

Posted by: Fritz at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (G9Mmf)

327 Just imagine what Old English font could do.







Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (jvd3N)

328 I think Jeantel is doing "unschooling" wrong.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (X4HxX)

329 BTW- what does wet grass sound like OVER THE PHONE??

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (8sCoq)

330 I'm left-handed. So add in the smear of the ink or the graphite across the page, making it almost completely unintelligible.

Wait! Am I in a protected class?

Who can I sue?


Fellow traveller, welcome! Can I interest you in a class action lawsuit?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (ix+5k)

331 Her neck fat looks like a Winnie Mandela style tire necklace. Seriously, if measured it would be around the same circumference as her head (excluding the trial wig of course).

I may be having trouble relating to this witness, but I have to admit I'm fascinated by her performance.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (8/DeP)

332
Worse than her not being able to read it is she wouldn't even try.

Its just LOSER all the way to her bones, man.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (3ZtZW)

333 She's playing dumb. Then she can attack her interlocutor as a racist for being irritated at her apparent stupidity.

She is a con man.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (El+h4)

334 This happens to be a racist truth and one reason why our current
world-civilization has reached the apogee of its innovation and can go
no further.


I was blaming the gravity well

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (CMlD4)

335 But that has nothing to do with the fact that an individual's IQ is basically fixed by age 5 or so. Which means the vast majority of the education system can not boost it. How smart you are is mostly, 60%+, heritable. Same with height. And just like height, you reaching your maximum is mainly about avoiding disease, injury, and malnutrition. But the maximum is mostly set by your genes.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (ZPrif)


I'm sure this knowledge will be helpful to me when my workplace hires a new batch of 5 year old engineering interns.

Potential is worthless without development. People pay for the precisely cut diamonds, not the (extraordinarily common) "diamonds in the rough". Your evidence indicates that in the first 5 years, physical development has an essential role in lifetime intellectual potential.

Our current political crisis indicates that the education system for the 20 years after that plays as important a part in the development and continuation of our political and cultural traditions.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (sGtp+)

336 She kept shouting these orders to the defense atty. I don't know why the judge didn't stop her. Annoying at hell.Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (RZwdH) -- Because the judge is in on the fix. GZ will be found guilty

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (R8hU8)

337 302

I agree....I think he does it so the jury wont pity her but rather see her contempt for authority and decorum....which also casts a shadow on Martin....in the "company you keep" framework

And he probably does it to stick his finger in her eye because he can't physically throttle her

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (qdzWt)

338 Jenteal looks very fertile to me.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (Cs2tJ)

339

Both her parents managed to get here, get jobs, get married, etc. But they really dropped the ball with her. She complained about her parents nagging her to get a job.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (RZwdH)

340 BTW- what does wet grass sound like OVER THE PHONE??

Posted by: Jones in CO


Umm, like a bong?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (XS/b3)

341 Just imagine what Old English font could do.


Dumb fucker. Old English doesn't come from a font. It comes in a can.

Posted by: Jeantel at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (8ZskC)

342 Anyone who disputes that my son look-alike wasn't murdered by this evil white is (you guessed it!), a racist! And picking on this poor girl simply because she was chosen to be the perjurer of the day is closely akin to the racist treatment accorded Susan Rice.

Legal determinationsmust be "flexible", said Justice Kennedy recently, and sometimes we must therefore convict a man not necessarily "guilty", strictly speaking, in order to make a larger socialpoint and avoid riots. Mostly, to avoid riots.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (B5y+v)

343 Jenteal looks very fertile to me.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (Cs2tJ)



That was Jeb.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (GQ8sn)

344 To her I believe wet grass over the phone sounds like her sitting on a plastic chair with swamp ass.

Posted by: assclownspotter at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (vC6Bj)

345 Defense is setting up timeline to show T. hid in wait for Z and confronted him. Not only that, if there is ANY way they can get it into evidence, that T. had no problem with fighting.. his way was not to go to his dad's home and get away from this cracker, but to confront and initiate. Will be interesting if they can get his past into this persecution, er, "trial"..

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (/jHWN)

346 Dog fucking whistle. Factually reporting a black
woman cannot read cursive waited for the first 48 team to find her
for the wet grass smoking gun.. Chris Mathews heart is palpitating

Posted by: drivingtheview
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OK. So now..., 'cursive' is racist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (aDwsi)

347 did she really say to an attorney 'don't you watch 48 Hours?' ??

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (8sCoq)

348 The real question is going to be: who wrote the letter and how she was coached to lie.
If the judge wasn't a leftish scrunt, this would venture right into mistrial or worse.

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:30 PM (45uEa)

349 If I had a daughter, she'd look like Jenteal.

Posted by: Barry Soetero at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (MIovV)

350 Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (GmTxn)

My guess is that the inmates were better able to read the questions on the IQ test because of all the practice they got with their defense teams.

Posted by: Charles Proteus Steinmetz at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (WW8xK)

351 She has been throughly prepped


She sounds totally different on the tapes.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (zOTsN)

352 > All, save one couple, had on thing in common, we were all older, late thirties to forties. I'm convinced nurture plays a roll.

Is it nurture or the fact that smarter parents probably wait to have kids until they're more successful and able to afford to pay for them though? I'd lean toward the latter.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (ZWvOb)

353 I'm left-handed. So add in the smear of the ink or the graphite across the page, making it almost completely unintelligible.

Wait! Am I in a protected class?

Who can I sue?


Fellow traveller, welcome! Can I interest you in a class action lawsuit?


Me too.




Da Vince just said fuckit and wrote backwards.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (KXm42)

354 This trial would be hysterically funny were not an innocent man fighting for his life.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (QupBk)

355 and this is what our society favors now. another fat, entitled, ignorant and belligerent dishonest black woman. i hate this country.

Posted by: poopsie mcshoes at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (jNT5w)

356 300 Sounds like St. Augustine, watered 1 hour ago, the right sprinklerhead needs adjusting.
Posted by: James T Afontilas - Audio Expert at June 27, 2013 01:25 PM (FIDMq)

*****

Nicely done!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (mvenn)

357 Indictments of Boston Blowhjole Bomber released. Use of WMD, 4 murders, 30 other counts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (ZshNr)

358 She is a con man.


Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (El+h4)


Word, baby!

Posted by: Austin Powers at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (8ZskC)

359 We are laughing and laughing hard.

We didn't want to teach them to read, and now they refuse to learn all on their own.

Posted by: The KKK at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (gWHwW)

360 Just imagine what Old English font could do.







Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:28 PM (jvd3N)

Especially when paired with Old English 800.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (XIxXP)

361 333 She's playing dumb. Then she can attack her interlocutor as a racist for being irritated at her apparent stupidity.

She is a con man.
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (El+h4)


When she wants to be heard and understood, there are no problems.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (RZwdH)

362 Re: Cursive.
Ok. Work with me here. When the burning time comes & we are physically battling the FSA, we won't need fancy Enigma machines or encryption programs, we can just write the message!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (ix+5k)

363 F. Joe,
you're right, but the point is that people with low IQs (and high IQs!) can get a lot more out of education than they are getting under our current system. It may not make them fundamentally better at problem-solving or systematizing or give them more g, but it means their time in school wouldn't be massively inefficient daycare/indoctrination camp.

Posted by: Emperor of Ice Cream at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (ZMzpb)

364 You don't have to have an opinion on who is guilt or innocent, but what is more than obvious is that Trayvon needed better friends

Posted by: John Robert Gregg at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (e8kgV)

365 Sigh.... incorrect as usual...

Posted by: Nicholi Tesla at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

Tom could sure build nice machines, but he was not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


Tesla was a badass. Anyone with the stones to publicly call out Thomas Edison as an idiot and back it up gets my respect.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (8/DeP)

366 are you people watching the trial on TV? I don't have a TV subscription anymore

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (8sCoq)

367
Just imagine what Old English font could do.


Dumb fucker. Old English doesn't come from a font. It comes in a can.


Posted by: Jeantel
-------------------

And THAT, is why I visit this swamp.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (aDwsi)

368 This trial would be hysterically funny were not an innocent man fighting for his life, for a second time!

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (CMlD4)

369 It is true about teenagers not being able to read and write in cursive. I teach high school juniors and seniors, and when I put notes on the overhead, there was an outcry from the children because they could not read it. I had to do it all over in print. I am making my eight year old son write his name and the alphabet in cursive right now. I am the wickedest Mommy EVER he says.

Posted by: Jmel at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (9tSXa)

370 Barring physical brain damage or some other misfortune hampering cognitive development, IQ is fluid and can change.

Posted by: MESNA member at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (mV5Rx)

371 I guess we will see after lunch if the judge cuts the defense a break. Rachel just gave testimony that she did not say something during a deposition and defense wants to play the tape as they have two transcripts of the depo. In one the reporter couldn't understand what she said so she just put asterisks and in the other the reporter wrote what he/she believes Rachel said. Judge has to decide if she will let the jury hear the tape so they can try and figure it out.

Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (bj+Nc)

372 That was Jeb.

He's my idol you know? Anyway, Jenteal will have many many children that are natural conservatives.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (Cs2tJ)

373 I tried listening to the singing birds around the yard last night but the damned wet grass was making too much noise. Couldn't hear the birds. Off with the sprinklers!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (eEfYn)

374 @343: Lindsey Grahamnesty also said it.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (B/VB5)

375 Ribbip. Ribbip.

Posted by: Bullfrog Jeantel at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (wAQA5)

376 Worse than her not being able to read it is she wouldn't even try.

You get a passing grade either way; why bother?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (/kI1Q)

377 Flowers for Jeanteal

Posted by: Algernon at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (MMC8r)

378 Was she talking about trying to fire up wet grass?

Posted by: assclownspotter at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (vC6Bj)

379

All I know..... is that Judge Jeanine is going to absolutely have an on-air aneurism on her next episode.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (nELVU)

380 Fellow traveller, welcome! Can I interest you in a class action lawsuit?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:29 PM (ix+5k)

We can start with every fucking supermarket in the world.

They place the credit card reader so that I have to contort myself to sign the screen.

Posted by: Charles Proteus Steinmetz at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (WW8xK)

381 She's a year behind in school. Why?

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (RZwdH)

382 who naMES THEIR kid 'jenteal'
that's an adjective, not a name

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (8sCoq)

383 Poor Trayvon.
When this is over, all he is going to be remembered for is getting shot by a black guy over some Skittles and having the ugliest fattest stupidest girlfriend in the Universe.

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (45uEa)

384 Tom E was an innovative engineer, vice an inventor like Tesla. Finding innovative engineers is difficult.

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (CMlD4)

385 She's a year behind in school. Why?

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (RZwdH)



Asking questions is now racist.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (GQ8sn)

386 When, oh when are we going to get Minx 0.80 Alpha?

#twoweeks

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (WW8xK)

387 If you'd been smoking as much weed as me that night, you'd hear the grass, too! Cracker.

Posted by: Rachael Jenteal at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (ggRof)

388 #322

It's all a game. She is making herself look dumb (but telling a lot of lies in the process, I think) to help defend Travyon. However, the act is also offensive to normal sensibilities and evidence of profound immaturity.

One study I saw said that while white folks do, on average, have higher IQ's than black folks, black folks balance of verbal / nonverbal favors the verbal IQ. What that means is, basically, you can expect a black girl like her to be much better with language than she is with math, and her cranium looks plenty big. So I call BS on her being stupid or uneducated. She's a player and a punk and can write perfect cursive with her eyes closed.

It's offensive what she's doing, and what's more offensive is she's doing it on purpose to stir the left up in righteous fury / pity.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (El+h4)

389 are you people watching the trial on TV? I don't have a TV subscription anymore

Posted by: Jones in CO
---------------

It's theater..., weird, PC, clichéd, post-modern theater.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (aDwsi)

390 Whatz she mean she dont kno cursive .. she cursed plenty of times

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (e8kgV)

391 who naMES THEIR kid 'jenteal'
that's an adjective, not a name

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (8sCoq)



To be fair, that's her last name.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (GQ8sn)

392 Sorry, but I've got no compassion for this person at all. The black "leadership" encourages and promotes the black communityto live and act like animals. If anyone is to blame, it's the Sharptons and Jacksons, etc.. They have a vested interest in keeping their "community" in a continual victim status state.

What I find amuzing is that many blacks act like they WANT to be back on the plantation. The plantation masters feed, clothed, housed, and provided for their needs. Isn't that the same thing that's bascially going on today? The "makers" in society are still providing for these people in every way imaginable.

So while they rant about slavery and slave masters, etc., they still want to be taken care of in the same way their masters did back then.

Posted by: Havedash at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (F0WNa)

393 and misspelled to boot

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (8sCoq)

394 275 Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 01:21 PM (GoIUi)

Great post.

I used to sneer at people who said things along the lines of, "You just don't understand my circumstances." Later I realized it was 100% true. I can't begin to relate to this witness, because I had parents who pushed me to read at an early age. I liked reading, and writing, from five on. I was able to read at a 12th grade level in the 4th grade. I became interested in politics and economics when I was a high school freshman. Etc, etc, etc. I'm been civically engaged for two-thirds of my life and cannot fathom the existence of someone who isn't.

What on earth is a life like, lived like hers?

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (6KiQ+)

395 And they said I was a nut job

Posted by: Jared Loughner at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (e8kgV)

396
Posted by: Emperor of Ice Cream at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM (ZMzpb)

Problem solving is really interested, and possibly only connected to IQ because we put it in the IQ test.

There was a study done about 2 years back where they used magnets to fuck with people's brains (on a temporary basis).
While the magnets were active people came up with more creative solutions to the classic "matchstick problem."

Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (GaqMa)

397 Worse than her not being able to read it is she wouldn't even try.

How's she gonna tell which welfare check is hers?

Posted by: wth at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (wAQA5)

398 209 the old man probably went to segregated, southern schools.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 01:11 PM (n9F1h)

Exactly.

Thomas Sowell writes eloquently about the rise of the Black middle class, and how it got stomped on by the Democrats and the Great Society.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (WW8xK)

After watching that Jay-walking segment, I went to talk to my great-aunt (RIP) who was almost 90. I know for sure that she went to segregated schools and I suspect that she had a bit of a learning disability, though she could read very well and had accomplished much in her life. (She had a high school diploma and was a retired beautician.)

I asked her the questions that Jay had asked. She answered every one of them correctly also.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (dYizu)

399 The jury is all white women.

Didn't most white women vote for Obama?



Posted by: BlueStateRebel at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (7ObY1)

400
She's playing dumb. Then she can attack her interlocutor as a racist for being irritated at her apparent stupidity.


She is a con man.


Yup. I'm sure she'll break out in Shakespeare with perfect Oxford diction any minute now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (0HooB)

401 All I know..... is that Judge Jeanine is going to absolutely have an on-air aneurism on her next episode.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (nELVU)


I would love to show Judge jeanine my sesual prowess. Best 5 minutes of her FKN life.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (XIxXP)

402 She's a year behind in school. Why? Two years, shes entering her senior year at 19. I graduated at 17.

Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (CMlD4)

403 OK. I don't get this not being able to read cursive thing, even if you weren't taught to write it. Really?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (r+7wo)

404 IQ is fluid and can change.

Posted by: MESNA member at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (mV5Rx)

Clearly....and not always up!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (WW8xK)

405
are you people watching the trial on TV? I don't have a TV subscription anymore

Posted by: Jones in CO

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Check out the Legal Insurrection blog - they have live streaming video.

Posted by: @JohnTant at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (PFy0L)

406 #twoweeks


Two weeks? Awesome.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (KXm42)

407 Posted by: platija de asalto now using BING and duckduckgo instead of google at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (Kkt/i)


Make sure you're using Tor for browsing, too.

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (6H6o8)

408 I'm making my points about the heritability IQ and the early age in childhood at which IQ is fixed ... to show that there is little evidence that better teachers would really have that much effect.

The smartest kids are produced in the heavily-unionized systems in Scandinavia.

Everybody likes to bash on the teachers and teachers unions, but there's little evidence they are the cause. Teacher's unions are the cause of many municipal bankruptcies --- but they aren't the cause of dumb kids.

Teacher's really are more like coaches. A coach can help you maximize your talent. But if you aren't talented, the world's greatest coaches won't help much.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (ZPrif)

409
Tom E was an innovative engineer, vice an inventor like Tesla. Finding innovative engineers is difficult.


Posted by: Jean
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Other way around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (aDwsi)

410 I didn't see much of the trial footage. Maybe 10 seconds while walking thru the room this morning. All I could see was an inner tube.

Has anybody done the 'eye analysis' to see if she is 'looking' for answers?

Posted by: sTevo at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (U6PH8)

411 When, oh when are we going to get Minx 0.80 Alpha?

#twoweeks

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (WW8xK)



When do we enter the beta software stage?

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (GQ8sn)

412 Indictments of Boston Blowhjole Bomber released. Use of WMD, 4 murders, 30 other counts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM



Three bombing victims and the policeman. Shouldn't he also be charged with killing Tspeedbump during the commission of a felony?

Posted by: Mike Nifong at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (bAGA/)

413 But, they did pick up more words and better grammar and thus changed their IQ without changing the important stuff.


Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:27 PM (GmTxn)

Actually, it did not make their IQ go up... but it would make it easier to understand the questions written on the IQ test. or the directions given if it was a timed spatial test given by a moderator (have had both done...).

One major problems with IQ tests is that the respondent must understand the task which they are trying to accomplish... which is why some say they are RACCCISSSTTTT.... they are not... but they can be Cultural...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (lZBBB)

414 esla was a badass. Anyone with the stones to publicly call out Thomas Edison as an idiot and back it up gets my respect.Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (8/DeP) He was also an insufferable asshole to the point that hardly anyone would work with him. He would have accomplished much more had he had more cooperation with other technologists. But he much preferred to play the asshole.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (OlN4e)

415

This is the book they use nowadays to teach handwriting: http://goo.gl/zZKEu

I give it 2 thumbs up! The kids like the edged italic.

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (RZwdH)

416 are you people watching the trial on TV? I don't have a TV subscription anymore

Posted by: Jones in CO

Check out legal insurrection for live feed

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (qdzWt)

417 If I recall correctly from my mis-spent yoot, one can, actually, hear the grass on side 3 of Pink Floyd's UMMAGUMMA.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (7ObY1)

418 #400

Next time someone asks you for cash while you're at a Western Union, please call me first.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:37 PM (El+h4)

419 Posted by: MESNA member at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (mV5Rx)


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Best typo today.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:37 PM (GmTxn)

420 What on earth is a life like, lived like hers?
Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (6KiQ+)


Based on all current events and my response thereto? Far happier than mine.


EC! Another dessert cart, s'il vous plait.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 27, 2013 01:37 PM (VtjlW)

421 So I call BS on her being stupid or uneducated. She's a player and a punk and can write perfect cursive with her eyes closed.


She just doesn't strike me as a nine-dimensional chess player. Just sayin'.

Sometimes stupidity is just stupidity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:37 PM (8ZskC)

422 <.i>you listen' you listen' you listen' you can go now you can go now you can go now </i>


Can't she be deported?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 27, 2013 01:37 PM (ujg0T)

423 Better teachers would mainly help the smart kids who are being held back by stupid teachers. The stupid kids will still be stupid.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (ZPrif)

424 The jury is all white women.



Didn't most white women vote for Obama?


Which is why the closing statement by the prosecution will be a bunch of zoom-ins on the 9 and 12 year old pictures of Trayvon set to "Wind Beneath My Wings". They won't even deliberate, it'll just be "give Zimmerman the chair!"

Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (B/VB5)

425 >What on earth is a life like, lived like hers?

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (6KiQ+)


A TV show like 48 Hours is science to her

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (8sCoq)

426 Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."






Reading cursive is racist and for crackas

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (1Jaio)

427 Posted by: Mike Nifong at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM



Stupid sock committing commentarial malpractice.

Posted by: huerfano at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (bAGA/)

428 shes entering her senior year at 19

So, this is her after five years of high school. Can't imagine a sixth is going to do much.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (FcR7P)

429 We can start with every fucking supermarket in the world.

They place the credit card reader so that I have to contort myself to sign the screen.


And Diawa & Shimano. Ever see a left handed reel? And don't get me started on circular saws.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (ix+5k)

430 I understand wanting to blame the prosecutor integree that's very accurate but if you want to understand how f***** up this is rest this I think the families civil attorney is running the prosecution's case which means the state of Florida was so afraid of the Rye is that they are essentially capitulated their civic duty and it busted every ethic possible in the application of this case.

I have not seen one left of center commentator admit that their structural at the CLE flaws in the prosecution's case

I admit I can't watch the show I'm driving through the Smoky Mountains but the media is either in on the gag or they simply cannot get past the racial identities of the actors in this drama

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (yTLpe)

431 412 Indictments of Boston Blowhjole Bomber released. Use of WMD, 4 murders, 30 other counts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 01:31 PM


Squeal!! That just makes him cuter!!!1!!!

Posted by: Justice4Jahar at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (RZwdH)

432 She has a low IQ but she is much more fluid and talkative on the tapes.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (zOTsN)

433 [Tesla] was also an insufferable asshole to the point that hardly anyone would work with him. He would have accomplished much more had he had more cooperation with other technologists. But he much preferred to play the asshole.

That may well explain my affinity for him.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (8/DeP)

434 Female Bank Robber Masquerading As "Doublenaught Spy" Recruiter:
We'll never find another... BRAIN... like his!

Male Bank Robber Also Masquerading:
He's a double-zero if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Jethro Bodine (274 episodes, 1962-1971) at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (e8kgV)

435 The smartest kids are produced in the heavily-unionized systems in Scandinavia.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe


The union effect is mitigated by two things; school vouchers (at least in Sweden) and a monoculture that values education. It's not comparable to our mess.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (XS/b3)

436 403 OK. I don't get this not being able to read cursive thing, even if you weren't taught to write it. Really?
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (r+7wo)
Some things are simply Mysteries of the Church

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (45uEa)

437 Teacher's really are more like coaches. A coach can help you maximize
your talent. But if you aren't talented, the world's greatest coaches
won't help much.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (ZPrif)


The opposite is also true. If a coach teaches you poor technique, you'll never perform to your ability.

Posted by: Brewer at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (eV1I0)

438
Reading cursive is racist and for crackas


Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (1Jaio)

And crackas is disparaging but not offensive.... and certainly not racist!

Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (bj+Nc)

439 EC! Another dessert cart, s'il vous plait.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 27, 2013 01:37 PM (VtjlW)


Oh, you noticed!

Coming right up!

*wheels another cart up*


Today's special is a chocolate ganache, topped with bacon crumbles.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:39 PM (GQ8sn)

440 247 I've lived in the ghetto. Unfortunately, she's the norm.
Posted by: kathysaysso at June 27, 2013 01:18 PM (6H6o

For the present day, yes. But it wasn't always so. (Grew up in South Central LA; live there now.)

We are looking at more than a rail-roading of a man we are looking at the evidence of an on-going crime perpetrated on almost all Americans and, especially, on one segment of them.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (aKcT0)

441 So, this is her after five years of high school. Can't imagine a sixth is going to do much.
Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (FcR7P)


Intresting comment on that earlier. Apparently she's still elidgable to play Nose Gaurd on the football team.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (XIxXP)

442 She's a year behind in school. Why?

Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 01:33 PM (RZwdH)



Only a year????

Posted by: NC Ref at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (/izg2)

443 Barry the father: If I had a letter it would look like that one

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (1Jaio)

444 Three bombing victims and the policeman. Shouldn't he also be charged with killing Tspeedbump during the commission of a felony?


The "felony murder" rule has been used to indict one suspect for the death of a co-conspirator in the commission of a crime. If they didn't use it here, maybe they were concerned about "bad optics.'

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (8ZskC)

445 Flatbush Joe you are flat wrong about IQ. IQ scores are highly malleable and dependent upon environmental conditions. In fact, that's a major criticism of IQ testing, validity-wise.

Posted by: random thought generator at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (++jnv)

446 I don't know why y'all are hammering this girl. Heck, if Charles Barkley was misquoted in his autobiography, this stuff can happen to anyone.

Posted by: jakeman at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (96M6e)

447 I learned how to do autopsies from watching reruns of Quincy.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (bYRF2)

448
>>>It's theater..., weird, PC, clichéd, post-modern theater.

Like ambulances pulling dead bodies of junkies out of shitbag apts, its a thing you should show your children as a cautionary tale.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (3ZtZW)

449 Posted by: MESNA member at June 27, 2013 01:32 PM (mV5Rx)


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Best typo today.





Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone,
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (aDwsi)

450 When do we enter the beta software stage?

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:36 PM (GQ8sn)

I think they are going to release the beta version when the upgrade for the Y2K issue is complete.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (WW8xK)

451 5 min away from court resuming...Welcome Back Jabba

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (qdzWt)

452 428
shes entering her senior year at 19



So, this is her after five years of high school. Can't imagine a sixth is going to do much.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (FcR7P)
Probably needed a hold back or 2 in k-6 that didn't happen either. Wouldn't want to make her feel bad.

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (FIDMq)

453 One study I saw said that while white folks do, on average, have higher IQ's than black folks, black folks balance of verbal / nonverbal favors the verbal IQ. What that means is, basically, you can expect a black girl like her to be much better with language than she is with math, and her cranium looks plenty big. So I call BS on her being stupid or uneducated. She's a player and a punk and can write perfect cursive with her eyes closed.
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:34 PM (El+h4)

First of all, I highly doubt this girl is able to write a full sentence. She is just not that bright. And that's putting it very mildly.

Next, I don't know about the black vs white IQ thing. It may be true of US people, but there were many people in my home country in deepest darkest Africa that were very smart. Some that were nothing special at home or even in the bottom half of the class came to the US for college and graduated with honors. And we are 100% pure black, no white blood in our ancestry.

I suspect it has a lot to do with culture. If your culture keeps you dumb, you're just not going to measure high on the IQ scale, IMO.

I

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (r+7wo)

454
"Yup. I'm sure she'll break out in Shakespeare with perfect Oxford diction any minute now."

If SNL had a hair on its ass, that would be the premise of its next opening skit. Unfortunately, we don't live on that planet.

This whole thing is so, so depressing. We as a nation cannot survive this trajectory much longer.

Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (4I3Uo)

455 377
Flowers for Jeanteal

Damn right. That girl done too much living off the fatta' the lan', I declare.

Posted by: Lennie Small at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (mV5Rx)

456 No, I disagree. The inconsistency about the cursive thing gives it away. She intended to come on and make it look like the defense was beating up on an ignorant black girl, but she didn't count on having to explain the cursive she wrote but couldn't read.

I was in high school not long ago and there is a difference between 'dumb' and 'stupid'.

'dumb' is something you have to be smart to be; clever enough to scheme but not experienced enough to know how stupid the schemes are.

'stupid' is really truly simple.

She's 'dumb', not 'stupid'. It's an artifact of teenage culture; when teenagers deal with adults, they almost always become instantly 'dumb'.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (El+h4)

457

I admit I can't watch the show I'm driving through the Smoky Mountains but the media is either in on the gag or they simply cannot get past the racial identities of the actors in this drama


Where are you headed?

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (gZfUw)

458 It's one thing for the usual suspects to call everything racist, it's another when they use that type of bullshit to ruin people's lives witht the help of the sheeple and the MSM.

It couldn't have been clearer that the msm misrepresentations that continue to this day have poisoned at least 3 wits.

Posted by: Justice4Jahar at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (RZwdH)

459 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:35 PM (ZPrif)

The problem with Education.. if the Progressive mindset that inhabits Education.

They constantly try to reinvent the wheel... putting things in place which don't work... then double down on them in an attempt to make them work... then instead of going BACK... they move onto something else new...

Discovery Method of Teaching Math is a prime example. Kill and Drill WORKS for boys... and all data points to decreasing Math scores Nationwide.... but they won't go BACK...

Hell.... had a Live in Girlfriend who was a Middle School Math Teacher... TOP in her field in Colorado... yet could not figure out a 15% tip in her head /facepalm

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (lZBBB)

460 She needed to sharpen her goose quill.

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:42 PM (45uEa)

461 Wet Grass RustlingTray and Cracker ScuffleingDeeDee Mumbling
Posted by: dananjcon at June 27, 2013 01:10 PM (jvd3N)

I chuckled at this.

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 01:42 PM (nTgAI)

462 >>>It's theater..., weird, PC, clichéd, post-modern theater.

Like
ambulances pulling dead bodies of junkies out of shitbag apts, its a
thing you should show your children as a cautionary tale.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands
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Over and over..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:42 PM (aDwsi)

463 Circus.

Posted by: sandbagger at June 27, 2013 01:42 PM (8X9tr)

464 My niece, who just finished first grade and turned seven last month, can read and write in cursive. That kind of surprised me because in my school days we didn't learn cursive until 3rd grade, but she told me she learned in school. Believe it or not, she goes to public school (suburban Dallas) although she's been reading since she was 3.

But the point is, it's really sad that a 19 year old can't do what a first grader can. Unless she has a learning disability, it's practically child abuse to ignore the fact that your child is illiterate. And she's obviously been promoted to the next grade every year. Great job, school.

Posted by: Mayday at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (eHc+1)

465 She definitely would qualify for "Halfwits" on SCTV

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (45uEa)

466 This is the "to kill a mockingbird" trail all over again. Only this time with the races reversed. Will the jury deciding Zimmerman's fate be just as blind and racist as the jury in the movie?

Posted by: deepred at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (rUiSC)

467 Has Al Sharpton jumped to her defense yet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (1Jaio)

468 I meant IQ test, not scale.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (r+7wo)

469 Shaka, when the walls came tumbling down.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (bYRF2)

470
A couple of months ago there was a viral video of a HS student reaming out his teacher. What people failed to see was that the kid was 18 years old and still a sophomore. He was white, too.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (RZwdH)

471 Talking head say she corroborates Zimmerman stalking St Trayvon

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (zOTsN)

472 "If she looked in the mirror and wasn't embarrassed I would think she could jack off a chihuahua in church during the sermon without undue embarrassment."

Posted by: maddogg

And this is why I come here!

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (QD4Vg)

473 And don't get me started on circular saws.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (ix+5k)

There used to be worm-drive saws that would work for us. I haven't done carpentry in a long time, so I don't know whether they are still around.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (WW8xK)

474 It's not all bad. Political hack prosecutors are presenting witnesses that make them all look like crooked imbeciles...and elsewhere...other dumbfucks are celebrating the wisdom of legally coercing the rest of us to call some guy his "wife". Winning.

Posted by: SurferDoc at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (F+av1)

475 "329
BTW- what does wet grass sound like OVER THE PHONE??"

It sounds like Obama walking: swish, swish, swish

Posted by: BK at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (6KiQ+)

476
433 [Tesla] was also an insufferable asshole to the point that hardly anyone would work with him."

Remember that Tesla was assfucked by Edison early on, when he was supposed to get $50,000 for certain work. Edison told him to pound sand.

An experience like that doesn't make someone want to trust and work with others.

Posted by: jwest at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (u2a4R)

477 Best thing US did for IQ was to raise the bottom by doing things like:
1) Mass vaccinations
2) Vitamin and mineral supplements in foods
3) Better maternal care
4) Indoctrinating women to not drink while pregnant
5) Getting rid of lead paint

stuff like that. Hope is to raise the bottom to be less cripplingly low.

There is no well-established scientifically proven way to raise IQ en masse -- only ways to avoid lowering it.

I hope in the future we discover ways to give everybody an extra 5-10 IQ points

In the next 10-20 years we'll discover dozens, perhaps hundreds, of genes that raise or lower IQ. China is doing a lot of work on this. US researchers avoid the topic for political reasons. Chinese don't care.

IQ, like height, is multi-genic. Likely hundreds of genes that each have a small effect.

We'll know a lot more by 2025-2030. Sooner if we'd fund the research.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (ZPrif)

478 Where did HR Puff n Stuff get the Sumo wrestling wig ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (nTgAI)

479 I admit I can't watch the show I'm driving through the Smoky Mountains but the media is either in on the gag or they simply cannot get past the racial identities of the actors in this drama

Where are you headed?


If they don't quit posting & start paying attention to the road, over the side!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (ix+5k)

480 Posted by: Mayday at June 27, 2013 01:43 PM (eHc+1)

That does not come by osmosis. Her parents, and I bet there are two, one man, one woman, spent many evenings reading to and with that child. Schoolastic success is no accident. It takes work and dedication by parents that give a shit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (XIxXP)

481 Coming in late to this...but this is what fifty years of the welfare state has accomplished for the black community. (Writ large--yes, they're are exceptions, but this is the general trend.)

Keep voting for Dems, guys. They have your BEST INTERESTS at heart.

Hey, at least Jeantel won't be a victim of climate change. Or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (659DL)

482 Has Al Sharpton jumped to her defense yet?

I have to remember to catch some MSNBC later when this topic comes up. Should be a hoot. I may actually see the episode where Chris Matthews is so hurt by life he just keels over.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (8/DeP)

483 So, speaking of barely functional retards...

As anyone seen the promos for that new MATT! DAMON! movie that's coming out? Elysium is the title, I believe.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (/PCJa)

484 There used to be worm-drive saws that would work for
us. I haven't done carpentry in a long time, so I don't know whether
they are still around.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (WW8xK)

Yep... still around.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (nELVU)

485 Oh, she's dumb, yes.

But you're pretty much what you make yourself. A person with an 80 IQ who actually gives a shit can function higher than a 100 who doesn't.

If it were all genetics and opportunity, explain Meaghan McCain.

Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (MMC8r)

486 239
There might be some sympathy for her if she wasn't such a snotty
beeatch. She's saying "sir", but it's in a very disrespectful way.


Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:17 PM (bj+Nc)

Please tell me she's not all "yessa" as in evoking the blackface caricatures of yore.

Posted by: platija de asalto now using BING and duckduckgo instead of google at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (Kkt/i)

487 #453

It's just an average. The secondary part is the following:

"IQ varies more greatly within groups than between groups"

What that means is if by US IQ tests blacks are 12 points behind, that still doesn't mean that there aren't as many genius-level blacks as there are whites, 'Jews' or Asians.

It just simply means that taken as an aggregate, blacks tend to have lower IQs as tested by US IQ tests. Mulattos (half and half) fall roughly in between blacks and whites in average IQ.

In fact, one thing I noticed about the black folks I've known is that there is a greater variation in apparent intelligence than among the whites. This might have as much to do with upbringing and diet as anything else though, since IQ can be lowered by environmental factors but cannot be raised.

Anyone who says that Clarence Thomas must have an IQ 12 points lower than Roberts because he is black doesn't understand how averages work. Clarence Thomas may the most intelligent man in Washington.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (El+h4)

488 Hey, if we've learned anything from Miss Jeantel's testimony, is that wet grass sounds wet.

You crazy H8rs.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (qoQi/)

489 yet could not figure out a 15% tip in her head

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (lZBBB)

And this is important.....why?

There is only one thing that we need to know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (WW8xK)

490 There used to be worm-drive saws that would work for
us. I haven't done carpentry in a long time, so I don't know whether
they are still around.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:44 PM (WW8xK)

They still sell them

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (FIDMq)

491 I wish I could tell Ms. Jenteal that if one's neck is that large, perhaps one should wear one's weave down and not up. Unless she's attempting to distract the lawyers and jury.

I can't knock her for having an unusually large neck, but we can all do things not to emphasize most of our problem areas.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (r+7wo)

492 I hope in the future we discover ways to give everybody an extra 5-10 IQ points



I know one right now.


Turn off the tv.

Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (GQ8sn)

493 how the fuck do you even function in society without having a working knowledge of your native language?

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (8sCoq)

494 ...But the worst part of the journey to California was the awful roar of the prairie, described as "louder than a thousand locomotives" by the settlers, who would stuff cotton in their ears and wrap their heads with blankets. Many went insane.

Posted by: edj at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (9Ko7L)

495 There used to be worm-drive saws that would work for
us. I haven't done carpentry in a long time, so I don't know whether
they are still around.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
------------

Still have my dad's vintage Skil. Rugged as hell...., but very heavy

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (aDwsi)

496 I love the sound of wet grass over my iPhone in the morning.

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:47 PM (45uEa)

497 She look pissed

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:47 PM (zOTsN)

498 A couple of months ago there was a viral video of a HS student reaming out his teacher. What people failed to see was that the kid was 18 years old and still a sophomore. He was white, too.

-----------

That video had me fucking livid at that kid with his "you gotta touch their hearts, teach-lady" bullshit. If you're 18 and think the free public school isn't touching you in the right places, get your GED and go to college. And kindly step your scraggly-haired self away from the 15-year-olds. Thanks.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:47 PM (GmTxn)

499 I wrote college exams / final exams in cursive. Still got the actual papers


a long time ago, yes, but nevertheless..........

Posted by: watching the sun set, fitfully at June 27, 2013 01:47 PM (omBWL)

500 BTW- what does wet grass sound like OVER THE PHONE??"

It sounds like Obama walking: swish, swish, swish


That's wet ASS.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:47 PM (ix+5k)

501 If I had a grass, it would be as wet as the grass on that phone.

Posted by: ward at June 27, 2013 01:47 PM (SPaCH)

502 Has a simple question been asked of Rachel? "Have you ever, in your life, written and sent a letter to somebody?" Isn't it an interesting choice for a young Snap-Chatter to pick up pen and paper to communicate?

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (FcR7P)

503 I can't knock her for having an unusually large neck, but we can all do things not to emphasize most of our problem areas.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (r+7wo)
A size 1400 burqa would also help

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (45uEa)

504 457 grey fox

South Carolina

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (XjImS)

505
how the fuck do you even function in society without having a working knowledge of your native language?

Posted by: Jones in CO
----------------

Heh. And..... we get to vote!

Posted by: 11,000,000 Illegal Aliens at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (aDwsi)

506 I don't think it's just cursive BTW

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (zOTsN)

507 how the fuck do you even function in society without having a working knowledge of your native language?
Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (8sCoq)

She doesn't. Those communities are made up constructs with their own language and rules. They are financed by criminal activity, graft and government largesse. It is nothing the working class law abiding could easily understand.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (XIxXP)

508 Still have my dad's vintage Skil. Rugged as hell...., but very heavy


Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (aDwsi)

----
Yep... Skil #77... frickin work horse.
I have a couple of Porter Cable's with the magnesium housings. Much lighter.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (nELVU)

509 Meanwhile in MA, white Hispanic Aaron Hernandez is now suspected of being involved in a double homicide in July 2012.

Where are all the race baiters?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 01:49 PM (g1DWB)

510 Still have my dad's vintage Skil. Rugged as hell...., but very heavy


Still have my dad's all metal Craftsman from the 50's. Heavy as hell & you guessed it, right handed.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:49 PM (ix+5k)

511
"If I had a daughter she would be just like Jeanteal" -TFG

Jeanteal, is that some kinda new dwuck? Elmer Fudd

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 27, 2013 01:49 PM (HVff2)

512 I can't knock her for having an unusually large neck, but we can all do things not to emphasize most of our problem areas.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:46 PM (r+7wo)

I agree you can do things to downplay problem areas. I'm wondering if she has a bad thyroid problem that is making her look a bit like a bullfrog.

Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:49 PM (bj+Nc)

513
"There used to be worm-drive saws that would work for us. I haven't done carpentry in a long time, so I don't know whether they are still around."

Not only are they still around, they're better.

Older models used a standard worm and worm wheel, which would only contact on tooth at a time. Now, they the better brands use double enveloping worm wheels, originally developed for submarine propulsion. By contacting three teeth at once it allows the wheel to be small and fit into a smaller overall package.



Posted by: jwest at June 27, 2013 01:49 PM (u2a4R)

514
"And don't get me started on circular saws.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (ix+5k)"

Porter Cable made a LH model. Dunno if they still do. I'm a righty, but I prefer the blade on the left side because I learned on an old wormdrive saw.

Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2013 01:49 PM (4I3Uo)

515
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (XjImS)


I see. I am in NC myself, so I was curious.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (gZfUw)

516 Look at her twitter

It's just twitter speak

She is illiterate

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (zOTsN)

517 okay now I'm seeing the live stream
is she on drugs?

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (8sCoq)

518 yet could not figure out a 15% tip in her head

I do this all the time, effortlessly. My wife (Master's Degree in IT) still asks me how.

Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (MMC8r)

519 wtf is that around her neck

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (8sCoq)

520 South Carolina

Posted by: sven
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Mmm. Can't be in the Blueridge long. You must be passing close by me in Asheville.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (aDwsi)

521 offs

Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (nqBYe)

522 A size 1400 burqa would also help

Posted by: Mister Wonderful at June 27, 2013 01:48 PM (45uEa)---
Ease up ya'al. Its a necklace.
If you click the video to full screen.... you can clearly make out LT275 70 R17 on it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (nELVU)

523
I suspect it has a lot to do with culture. If your culture keeps you dumb, you're just not going to measure high on the IQ scale, IMO.


I believe you've hit upon it. I see an entire culture that's encouraged to reject any kind of intelligence for social aspects. Being stupid is kewl, for some strange reason.

FTR, I also saw this in my own birth culture back home in Alabama. If you had any kind of smarts, you were the outcast.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (0HooB)

524 okay now I'm seeing the live stream
is she on drugs?
Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (8sCoq)


I know she chugged a 40. I hope she burps really loud.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (XIxXP)

525 Probably needed a hold back or 2 in k-6 that didn't happen either. Wouldn't want to make her feel bad.
Posted by: Red Shirt at June 27, 2013 01:41 PM (FIDMq)

You see, when I was growing up in d.d. Africa, if you failed your exams you got held back. No argument. We called it "repeating."

It's not such a terrible thing. I have a friend who repeated for some reason in secondary school and she went on to get one of the highest scores in the country in one of our college entry exam. And she got an almost perfect score on the Oracle certification test, which I am told is quite uncommon.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (r+7wo)

526 I bet she has to clean those cracks around her neck really carefully each night.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (RZwdH)

527 Fat or Giotto.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (zOTsN)

528 okay now I'm seeing the live stream
is she on drugs?


I think that's the consensus. That or she's an imbiber of "Drank."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (/PCJa)

529 >>wtf is that around her neck

fat

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (g1DWB)

530 >>>131
This girl has been failed by everyone. Her parents, her teachers, her
friends. It's really very sad, and a damning indictment of our public
school system.

Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (wsGWu)
And thanks to the consistent blockage of real social security reform by the Democrats, my generation will "depend" on her for our retirement. BWAAAAAAHH!!!!


Posted by: Kadang07 at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (xDyqg)

531 Goiter

Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 01:51 PM (zOTsN)

532 <i>That video had me fucking livid at that kid with his "you gotta touch their hearts, teach-lady" bullshit. If you're 18 and think the free public school isn't touching you in the right places, get your GED and go to college. And kindly step your scraggly-haired self away from the 15-year-olds. Thanks. </i>


Frankly, that kid had a point. The teacher's demeanor was one of an absolute union drone.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (ujg0T)

533 If she votes then there's a chance she gets called and sits on a jury. That should make you feel good.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (4Vr+0)

534 BTW- what does wet grass sound like OVER THE PHONE??"



It sounds like Obama walking: swish, swish, swish





That's wet ASS.

*****

Shhhh. We on the down low.

Posted by: Reggie Love at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (6KiQ+)

535 Letters are going the way of the dodo bird. She obviously can text and you don't have to be terribly literate to do that:

Goin to 7-11. C u lr."

Gt my weed?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (MWJLy)

536 On variation, east asians tend to have less.
Interestingly, east asian IQ is, on average, higher by a few points (~5) than white euro IQ. But it also has a smaller std of deviation. So there are fewer non-functional retards. But also fewer super-geniuses.

People underestimate how much smarter the uber-geniuses are compare to just normal "smart" people. And how important the uber cognitive elite are in driving technical and scientific advances.

IQ is just one facet of human nature, of course, albeit an important one.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (ZPrif)

537 I was curious.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (gZfUw)

I wouldn't admit that if I were you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (WW8xK)

538 There used to be worm-drive saws that would work for

us. I haven't done carpentry in a long time, so I don't know whether

they are still around.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Hell yeah. Those things are the shit. I have a 20 year old Milwaukee worm drive that kicks ass. For me the best part about those was the blade was where you can see it, unlike a regular circular saw.

Posted by: Berserker at June 27, 2013 01:52 PM (FMbng)

539 I do this all the time, effortlessly. My wife (Master's Degree in IT) still asks me how.

Posted by: zsasz
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It's a chromosomal thing. Have you tried her at map reading?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (aDwsi)

540 Okay, not every 19-year-old senior is an idiot. I entered my son into high school a year later than usual. He spent that year traveling at home and abroad and studying math. He was 15 when he started freshman year and is currently an honor student at one of the top 3 public schools according to the US News rankings.

However, this girl's ignorant.

Posted by: VKI at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (TKoA3)

541 526
"I bet she has to clean those cracks around her neck really carefully each night."

Well, that is where the stray Cheetos is.

Posted by: Mr. Notprahs at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (mV5Rx)

542 as far as cursive perhaps the person that actually wrote the statement writes horribly.

I'm glad i'm not watching.


Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (nqBYe)

543 My wife can't seem to figure it out either. I tell her $1.50 for every $10.00 and 50 cents for every three dollars. There are a hundred ways to do it in your head.

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (nTgAI)

544 now the judge is telling the attorney how to interrogate the witness


wtf

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (8sCoq)

545 She said she thought what she was hearing was "just a fight". Really? Just a fight? How often did Travon fight? Sounds like she was used to Travon getting into fights. Defense hopefully jumped on that.


Posted by: Dang at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (Hx2XA)

546 And don't get me started on circular saws.

What I'd really like is a left-handed chain saw. Not a fan of standing and holding backwards.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:54 PM (FcR7P)

547 Judge Scrunty is at it again.

Posted by: Maloderous at June 27, 2013 01:54 PM (p2s4o)

548 Yeah, she's dumb. That's exactly why she needs to vote 6 or 7 times.

Posted by: DNC at June 27, 2013 01:54 PM (/Mla1)

549 Being held back in school is no sign of lack of intelligence these days, its a sign of non-conformity. I had to be in HS 5 years myself.

Many folks that grew up in good areas or long ago don't understand how different it is now. How little respect is given or received, and how punishment is by turns indolent and draconian, leading to unclear boundaries and appearance of phony and arbitrary authority.

Teenage boys are extremely sensitive to it.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:54 PM (El+h4)

550
She's 'dumb', not 'stupid'

My money says neither can be fixed. Speaking of fixed, she should be......what we need are more of her running around populating the earth.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 27, 2013 01:54 PM (HVff2)

551 What I'd really like is a left-handed chain saw. Not a fan of standing and holding backwards.
Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 01:54 PM (FcR7P)


Oh, suck it up buttercup

Posted by: Stumpy McFingerless. at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (XIxXP)

552
how the fuck do you even function in society without having a working knowledge of your native language?
Posted by: Jones in CO




Saw some posts elsewhere defending her idiocy by claiming she's of Haitian descent, so how could you racists expect her to read English.

I've got 5 bucks that if you toss something in French in front of her you'll get the same response, probably worse.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (kdS6q)

553 Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (nTgAI)

---

Divide by three. Cut that in half.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (nELVU)

554 I couldn't understand how she was able to say trayvon would have told me if he was going to confront someone. isn't that conjecture, supposition, completely made up bullshit?

Posted by: sweet...ish at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (bj+Nc)

555 #543

I just add 10 percent by sliding the decimal point, and then add half that again. Bingo! instant 15%.

Maybe some folks don't realize you can visualize numbers in your mind?

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (El+h4)

556 There's a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her. It seems painfully apparent that not one person in her life gives a shit that she's functionally illiterate and utterly incoherent.

It's not just that. It's the whole black culture that dismisses learning and books as "acting white." I suspect that, if you had unlimited time and patience, you could teach Jenteal to read something like Jane Eyre and actually enjoy it. But no one will take the time or patience. Why should they, when the immediate pleasures af the thug life are right outside her window? I guarantee you that Jenteal voted for Barack because he's her homie and loves that he's living large on all us nasty ass crackers.

But if you told her that Barky and Mooch laugh their asses off at fools like her, she wouldn't believe you. The government schools have bred her to be a slave. A slave who only works when she wants to, but a slave nonetheless.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 27, 2013 01:56 PM (zF6Iw)

557 wtf is that around her neck
Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:50 PM (8sCoq)

Radio Collar ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 01:56 PM (nTgAI)

558 that judge makes no sense....Jenteal already told West that she didn't say "you want that too" and it was in front of the jury....WTH

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 01:56 PM (qdzWt)

559 baldilocks, Yes, this isn't just one group being dumbed down it's all the kids in ,ajor cities.

if the parents don't spend a lot of time instructing their children after school. they get left in the dust.
Many parents do not realize the children aren't being taught, so they don't put the time aside to teach them the basics.

Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 01:56 PM (nqBYe)

560 #552

She's just playing dumb. She's highly clever but has to keep up the street cred, ya know. Can't come across as some kinda egghead.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (El+h4)

561 Frankly, that kid had a point. The teacher's demeanor was one of an absolute union drone.

----

Her behavior may have been bad (I don't remember seeing much of it, as his tantrum took up most of the video) but his behavior was that of a toddler. Forcing a tenth-grade teacher to deal with an adult throwing a hissy fit isn't going to help anybody.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (GmTxn)

562 Just take 10% (if you can't do that in your head, you're as hopeless as the star witness), and then add half of that.

Posted by: yinzer at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (/Mla1)

563 >wtf is that around her neck


I'm pretty sure it's her head.

Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (MMC8r)

564 as far as cursive perhaps the person that actually wrote the statement writes horribly.

I'm glad i'm not watching.
Posted by: willow
----------------

Wait..., I thought she supposedly wrote it..?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (aDwsi)

565 She's just playing dumb. She's highly clever but has to keep up the street cred, ya know. Can't come across as some kinda egghead.
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (El+h4)

OK, she's the inner city Amy Ferrah Fowler.

Posted by: Stumpy McFingerless. at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (XIxXP)

566 The active ingredient in purple drank from the Robotussin is Dextromethorphan. Robotussin with Codeine is available by prescription only. The Dextro kind (DM) can be bought off the shelf. I tried it once in college, and it's about the nastiest buzz I can possibly imagine.

Posted by: Chris M at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (k3w9p)

567 yet could not figure out a 15% tip in her head

15% is hard maths. Loan officer at one of the banks here can't do 10% in her head. Wasn't long after that I found another bank.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (epxV4)

568 Wanted: Witness. Must read cursive.

Posted by: FLORIDA DA'S OFFICE at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (MMC8r)

569 Brng mee s0l0 n teh w00kee thayll pay 4 ths 0utr4g3

--DeeDee the Hutt

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in his happy place at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (zUi7I)

570 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's? I do have a number I consider mine, as well as a GT score that I can kinda try to translate to IQ.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (ZshNr)

571 539 I [figure a 15% tip in my head] all the time, effortlessly. My wife (Master's Degree in IT) still asks me how.

Posted by: zsasz
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It's a chromosomal thing. Have you tried her at map reading?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 01:53 PM (aDwsi)

As a member of the XX chromosomal club, ya sexist, I can do this too, as well as read a map. (But, seriously, I know a lot of ladies who can do neither.)

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 01:59 PM (PDqaO)

572 fuck she can barely keep her eyes open- is it drugs or just not enough brain power to operate the eyelids

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:59 PM (8sCoq)

573 mike, hmm, I thought i read she couldn't read it, and she did Not write it, But signed it.

Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 01:59 PM (nqBYe)

574 You are all crazy-ass cracka morons...no matter what skin color.

I have some catching up to do.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 01:59 PM (baL2B)

575 Maybe some folks don't realize you can visualize numbers in your mind?
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (El+h4)

This is the problem. I do complex math almost everyday in my job, and I havea PhD in Chemical engineering. I have always been extremely good at all kinds of math. It just comes naturally to me.

However, I cannot for the life of me do arithmetic in my head. I am also a big fail at directions. I recently came to the conclusion that it's because I can't visualize jack in my head.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:00 PM (r+7wo)

576 572

probably the 6 cheeseburgers.....she just got back from lunch

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 02:00 PM (qdzWt)

577 As a member of the XX chromosomal club, ya sexist, I
can do this too, as well as read a map. (But, seriously, I know a lot
of ladies who can do neither.)

Posted by: baldilocks
----------------

It isn't an absolute thing..., just a distribution thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 02:00 PM (aDwsi)

578 This girl don't need to calculate a tip. Y'all know why. If you don't, you never worked in a restaurant, sugar.

Posted by: Paula Deen at June 27, 2013 02:01 PM (/Mla1)

579 572
"is it drugs or just not enough brain power to operate the eyelids"

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Otis from Superman (1978) at June 27, 2013 02:01 PM (mV5Rx)

580 572 fuck she can barely keep her eyes open- is it drugs or just not enough brain power to operate the eyelids

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 01:59 PM (8sCoq)


It's 'itis'....she just ate lunch.

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:01 PM (X6akg)

581 Maybe some folks don't realize you can visualize numbers in your mind?


Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:55 PM (El+h4)

---
Yes.
I visualize 69.
Alot.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 27, 2013 02:01 PM (nELVU)

582 So now we're blaming Creole being spoken by her mom? Serious You Guys.

Posted by: jakeman at June 27, 2013 02:01 PM (96M6e)

583 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's?

Yep. And unlike the Vice President, mine is real.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2013 02:01 PM (659DL)

584 "And I think the reason he keeps repeating her answers back to her is so that the jury knows what the f**k she just said."
---
Agreed.. I can't even make out half of her responses, perhaps I could if I was 20 feet away but who knows.
It's also to remind her of her own answers, she seems to forgets statements she makes 5 or 10 minutes prior, let alone from months ago.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (7mQyC)

585 That is why I just tip 20% as a rule. Multiplying by 2 and shifting the decimal point doesn't require much visualization.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (r+7wo)

586
yet could not figure out a 15% tip in her head
Posted by: Romeo13



Look at the total, shift the decimal point one place and double it.

Because you tip 20%, you cheapskates.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (kdS6q)

587 <I>Her behavior may have been bad (I don't remember seeing much of it, as his tantrum took up most of the video) but his behavior was that of a toddler. Forcing a tenth-grade teacher to deal with an adult throwing a hissy fit isn't going to help anybody.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 01:57 PM (GmTxn) </i>


Maybe I caught the extended version? What I saw was a teacher who was basically dozing, not engaging the class, and didn't seem to care what the class did as long as there was minimal noise and no mayhem.

I hope the kid in question went on to get his GED and pass out of high school. He could sense he was wasting his time there.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (ujg0T)

588 How hard is it to read cursive? What crap!

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (RZwdH)

589 #570

There are different tests. On that I took went up to 135 and I got 133, but that's because I lag slightly on code memorization (read: I'm terrible at it.) Spatially, identifying and subdividing shapes, I scored about as high as you could, I think. This was in High School. They did that because I tried to drop out and they wanted to see if I was mentally deficient I guess.

Some of the tests are more like SAT's, i.e. more narrowly focused. The one I took did a bunch of stuff that wasn't directly 'math' or 'words'.

SAT's, if the person does not study excessively, seem to correlate pretty well to IQ's if taken at the same age.

Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (El+h4)

590 Jeantel has dumbed down the court.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (Cs2tJ)

591 Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 01:58 PM (ZshNr)

The school sent the results home when I was in middle school (maybe 1st year of HS).

I didn't care too much then, because I couldn't figure out how to use it to get some girl's shirt off.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (WW8xK)

592 Been a long day for Ms Yes Sir. What have I missed.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:03 PM (baL2B)

593 In Florida, if you drop out of school and turn 18, you cannot return to high school. You go to a jr college to get your GED


apparently she never actually dropped out; the cut-off ( before they send her to jr college GED courses ) is 20 or 21

Posted by: watching the sun set, fitfully at June 27, 2013 02:03 PM (omBWL)

594 i can't watch anymore of this

it's clear the object of this Kafkaesque exercise is to punish Zimmerman, period

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 02:03 PM (8sCoq)

595
wait.... an I missing something.... she signed a deposition she neither wrote nor could read???

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 02:03 PM (nELVU)

596 In a lot of wealthy well heeled upper class neighborhoods the schools, nationally ranked, do not teach script. They don't see the use for it. It's on the heap with phonics and traditional math, like memorizing your times tables. Kids instead are taught to print and use the computer starting in pre school. Oh, and french, they are usually taught french too. Don't know why french, you'd think they'd teach them Spanish.

So, if the jurors are mothers with kids. They won't fault her for not being able to read script. The attorney has to get across the fact that she signed it without being able to read it and did she write it or did someone else write it for her?

Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 02:03 PM (/b8+5)

597 I [figure a 15% tip in my head] all the time, effortlessly. My wife (Master's Degree in IT) still asks me how.

Posted by: zsasz

Learned my math in my dads race car shop. I can do most math in my head. I failed Middle school math even though I could calculate Cubic inches, use micrometers and explain airflow from carburetor to exhaust in an engine. I try not to judge people by their H.S. transcripts.

Posted by: Stumpy McFingerless. at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (XIxXP)

598 I always tip 17.6425%, just for the challenge.

Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (MMC8r)

599 That is why I just tip 20% as a rule. Multiplying by 2 and shifting the decimal point doesn't require much visualization.


Anyone know a good quick way like that to figure a 3% tip?

Posted by: Algore at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (8ZskC)

600 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals",
how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a
specifically designed test) your IQ's? I do have a number I consider
mine, as well as a GT score that I can kinda try to translate to IQ.

Posted by: Lincolntf
---------------

I recall my parents whispering something with my 4th grade teacher..., couldn't quite pick it out, but it sounded kinda like 'IQ of a poodle'. I have never figured out what that means. It might have been 'noodle'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (aDwsi)

601 So the defense is finally done embarrassing Gentooa. The State tries to salvage something from her testimony.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (codCi)

602 Been a long day for Ms Yes Sir.

It would take about 2 seconds to create a word cloud of today's proceedings.

Posted by: jakeman at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (96M6e)

603 Stupid stumpy sock.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:04 PM (XIxXP)

604
150 I'm trying to decide if Jenteal has any redeeming qualities. So far I got nuttin'
Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (Cs2tJ)


ISWYDT

If she and Trayvon had had a son, he'd look like Barack Obama. Does that count?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 27, 2013 02:05 PM (HsTG8)

605 how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a
specifically designed test) your IQ's?


I think that the Mensa group has a conversion table based on the SAT, by the year you took it.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 02:05 PM (codCi)

606 I just am skeptical that fixing the schools -- ie reforming the unions -- will fix the problem of citizens like this horrid, racist, stupid girl.

Dumb people are also more likely to seek out racial/tribal bonds over broader American bonds.

I think reforming the schools will help somewhat, on the margin. But I doubt it will have a dramatic effect.

Dumb people have a difficult life because they are stupid. Life is hard and confusing for them. They will then blame others for their failures. Especially in a multi-ethnic society like America. There will always be an Other group to pin blame on.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 02:05 PM (ZPrif)

607 Stanford-Binet was the standard IQ test for a long time. Wechsler IQ test is also used.

Either one will yield a low number for the manatee on the stand.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (WW8xK)

608 Heh I'll live I'm using the truck's bluetooth for vox or Lad is transcribing....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (XjImS)

609 Is your group racist?



Yes sirrrrrr.

Posted by: RWC aka Wet Grass Whisperer at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (fWAjv)

610 I like to compute the amount to tip in my head

in hexadecimal, in Chinese

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (8sCoq)

611 The way the prosecutor says it, it sounds more like "creepy ass-cracker," which is an entirely different thing, no?

Posted by: jakeman at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (96M6e)

612 can you believe that the judge just said "i believe the words were creepy ASS cracker"

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (qdzWt)

613 She thinks this is funny. Yes sir.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (baL2B)

614 A slave who only works when she wants to, but a slave nonetheless.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 27, 2013 01:56 PM (zF6Iw)

Great image there MPPPP. Conditioned by the all-powerful state to be a mental slave, just not a menial slave!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (Cnqmv)

615 cursive = actin' white. Its not just the schools failing her, its her own damn 'culture' which discards education as acting white.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at June 27, 2013 02:07 PM (9Bdcz)

616 Either one will yield a low number for the manatee on the stand.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (WW8xK)


Take that back.

Posted by: A Manatee with a Degree in French Literature at June 27, 2013 02:07 PM (8ZskC)

617 Learned my math in my dads race car shop. I can do
most math in my head. I failed Middle school math even though I could
calculate Cubic inches, use micrometers and explain airflow from
carburetor to exhaust in an engine. I try not to judge people by their
H.S. transcripts.

Posted by: Stumpy McFingerless
----------------------

Interestingly, it was reading Hot Rod Magazine that piqued my interest in math. I fairly quickly started working out the math associated with all of the mechanics of engines, transmissions, crank angles, cam timing , etc.etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 02:07 PM (aDwsi)

618 Is "creepy ass cracker" just a manner of speaking in your culture and age group?

WTF?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 02:07 PM (mvenn)

619 I think that the Mensa group has a conversion table based on the SAT, by the year you took it.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 02:05 PM (codCi)

Just checked one based on my IQ and GRE score. My IQ is in the freakishly high percentiles.

What? You're asking for proof? Bwahahahaha

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:08 PM (r+7wo)

620 >Been a long day for Ms Yes Sir.


are my pants on fire? -Yes Sir.
does 2+2= yellow? -Yes Sir.
gleep herp dooble gleep? -Yes Sir.

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 02:08 PM (8sCoq)

621 Is "creepy ass cracker" just a manner of speaking in your culture and age group?

WTF?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 02:07 PM (mvenn)

Don't you just love the racist paternalism?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:08 PM (r+7wo)

622 Maybe I caught the extended version? What I saw was a teacher who was basically dozing, not engaging the class, and didn't seem to care what the class did as long as there was minimal noise and no mayhem.


-------

We may be thinking of different videos? I remember him asking a question about the time they got for taking the standardized tests repeatedly, her saying she didn't know, time to move on to worksheets. When he wouldn't drop it, she told him to leave, which is when he launched into his tirade, which is why he was packing his backpack and heading to the door while ranting in his bad-DMX-impression-voice. But yeah...if the teacher sucked, then adding to the suckitude by throwing a tantrum just makes it that much worse for the kids who are legally required to be there, because they're 14-17, so that's why the fact that he was 18 bugged me so much.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (GmTxn)

623 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's?


I do.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (fwARV)

624
Beam me down there, I'll mind meld that bitch and translate

Posted by: Spock at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (2cfUo)

625 583 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's?

-----
Obtained my K-12 records a while back and there's an IQ score there. The test was administered when I was in the second grade, circa 1968.


Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (eo/+2)

626
wait.... an I missing something.... she signed a deposition she neither wrote nor could read???
Posted by: fixerupper




Yes. She also signed it with someone else's name.

Not kidding, folks.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (kdS6q)

627 If she and Trayvon had had a son, he'd look like Barack Obama.

It would look like the Cloverfield Monster

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (XIxXP)

628
Dear Facebook: Had MUCH easier day at work today....yes sir!!

Posted by: Court Stenographer at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (nELVU)

629 whats the score of overruled/sustained for prosecution and defense?.....this judge seems inclined to overrule anything and everything the defense objects to

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (qdzWt)

630 618 - IKR

Btw notice how much louder and clearer she is when answering on direct.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (7mQyC)

631 Oh wow, my SAT exactly tracks my tested IQ.

Didn't study for the SAT.

Posted by: HoboJerky at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (X4HxX)

632 You'll know this trial is rigged if Zimmerman's lawyer, Mr. Knock-Knock, Esq., uses the word "uppity" in his closing argument.

Posted by: Impartial Observer at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (mV5Rx)

633 I know mine as well as all of my siblings. My mother was the Dean of Girls at the junior high and she got them all and told us.

This was so we had no excuse about school being too hard.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (GoIUi)

634 are my pants on fire? -Yes Sir.
does 2+2= yellow? -Yes Sir.
gleep herp dooble gleep? -Yes Sir.

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 02:08 PM (8sCoq)


LOL!

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (X6akg)

635 English is her 3rd language?

Bullshit.

Posted by: RWC aka Wet Grass Whisperer at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (fWAjv)

636 Is "creepy ass cracker" just a manner of speaking in your culture and age group?

Paula Deen, call your office.

Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 02:10 PM (MMC8r)

637 English is her third language apparently.

Posted by: HoboJerky at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (X4HxX)

638 Don't calculate a tip unless you are out having lunch at Marie Callender's with the other old ladies. Just throw a few bucks on the table. What ever it's worth to you. Don't be cheap.

Posted by: SurferDoc at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (F+av1)

639 gleep herp dooble gleep? -Yes Sir.


*****

We may need to refer to the transcript for clarification on this comment.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (mvenn)

640 Dee -dee 'whats you be talking about sir..'

Mr. West - English motherfucker, do you speak it?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (7mQyC)

641 Is "creepy ass cracker" just a manner of speaking in your culture and age group?

I'm not watching it. Who asked that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (MWJLy)

642 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's?


I do.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (fwARV)

Mine is about 341.

Quit asking for proof! Racists!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (r+7wo)

643 Tony, I've done that. And the GT tables. First IQ test I remember the results of was in grade school, last similar thing was a GT-ASVAB at age 30. The results hold up pretty consistently considering all the variations in testing and scoring.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 02:12 PM (ZshNr)

644 I like to compute the amount to tip in my head



in hexadecimal, in Chinese

Posted by: Jones in CO says our forefathers would be shooting people by now at June 27, 2013 02:06 PM (8sCoq)

I visualize an abacus in my head and use it to calculate the tip to the nearest penny!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 27, 2013 02:12 PM (Cnqmv)

645 Gettin' testy, yes, sir.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:12 PM (baL2B)

646 She's bouncing.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 27, 2013 02:13 PM (UypUQ)

647 You are all perverts now, crackas.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:13 PM (baL2B)

648 I wonder whether she can read and write in Spanish and Creole either?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:13 PM (MWJLy)

649 "I'm not watching it. Who asked that? "
--
Prosecution opened that door on re-direct.

Now West is stepping inside that door on re-cross.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:13 PM (7mQyC)

650 my sixth grade teacher told each of us our IQ ( Stanford-Binet ) score, although I don't think he was supposta do that


85, like that guy in Alien 4; no shame, no game

Posted by: watching the sun set, fitfully at June 27, 2013 02:13 PM (omBWL)

651 641
Is "creepy ass cracker" just a manner of speaking in your culture and age group?



I'm not watching it. Who asked that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (MWJLy)

Cracka bald attorneys.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (baL2B)

652 #583 - IQ Administered soph year in h.s., obtained it with other school records necessary for gubment clearance

Posted by: MoeRon at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (ejHMs)

653 Alien 3 ---- see what a low IQ does to a dude?

Posted by: watching the sun set, fitfully at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (omBWL)

654 I meant To by. Sorry. Fucking auto correct.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (ZshNr)

655 The parsing of "Creepy Ass Cracker"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (mvenn)

656 Just got her to admit that "cracker" and "the n-word" are commonly used in her community.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (gZfUw)

657 Jeantel is done.....and I think she ended on a lie.

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (X6akg)

658 I like to compute the amount to tip in my head

in hexadecimal, in Chinese
------------------------

Octal. In Klingon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (aDwsi)

659 IQ is no guarantor of fabulous success though. Witness, myself.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (codCi)

660
Finally this disaster of a witness is being excused... for now. She may be called back at a later time.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (7mQyC)

661 575 Chique D'Afrique,

Cognitive constructs. I have a chalk board, book of many data, and was taught memory palace mnemotics by my grandma and my 8th grade drop out grandpa.

I am not a great higher math ind, I'm prety savvy to geometry.

Used to have a pretty good library in my head.

Greatest gift anyone ever gave me except maybe her finger and my son.

Chique we need to figure out how to break the cycle in the poor communities as education has changed the last twenty years we're trapping folk of all races in a life of defacto servitude.

They just produce votes, and judicial entertainment.

You have a good day ma'am.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (XjImS)

662
how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a
specifically designed test) your IQ's?



Yeah. Kids in the gifted program weren't supposed to be told, because they thought it would make us stuck-up.

But one day the program advisor left the folder with the scores on his desk while he went out for a smoke, and....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (kdS6q)

663 Is "creepy ass cracker" just a manner of speaking in your culture and age group? I'm not watching it. Who asked that? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:11 PM (MWJLy)

***

The prosecutor, on re-direct.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (mvenn)

664 Just got her to admit that "cracker" and "the n-word" are commonly used in her community.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 02:14 PM (gZfUw)


Mine to, although we are taling about triscuits and the President.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (XIxXP)

665 hehe, make her wait there all day.

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 02:15 PM (r98SZ)

666 Wow; That is really bad.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:16 PM (MWJLy)

667 My IQ earned it's stripes by selecting my wife. I'm serious, not being a beta. Best goddamned decision I ever made. And she's almost as smart as me...

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (ZshNr)

668 Last question West asked was "Did Trayvon use cracka?" She said No....which contradicts her earlier testimony.



Or did I mishear that?

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (X6akg)

669 Stop calling her a child. She's 19. When I was 19 I was working and in my second year of university. Sheesh!

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (RZwdH)

670
commenter:

".... we have a 19 year old child here."


**spit**

Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (nELVU)

671 IQ Administered soph year in h.s., obtained it with other school records necessary for gubment clearance

Posted by: MoeRon
--------------

Ah. An old joke about Marines (among Navy types). There are two requirements to be a Marine, big..., and dumb. If you're big enough, they will waive the dumb requirement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (aDwsi)

672 I don't think the trial is rigged except by the Judge trying to put a fix in. This goes well (ie, against Zimmerman) she may get a big position in the Obama admin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (MWJLy)

673 Do we have a count on the number of times "Creepy Ass Cracker" was said in court today and yesterday? Bonus points for anyone who has the number of times per-person.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:18 PM (7mQyC)

674 When I was 19, I was literate.

Posted by: Maloderous at June 27, 2013 02:18 PM (p2s4o)

675 cursive = actin' white. Its not just the schools failing her, its her own damn 'culture' which discards education as acting white.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at June 27, 2013 02:07 PM (9Bdc


THIS.

Imagine if you could have a conversation with Traytable. Asked him what he wanted to be when he got older. Do any of you think his answer would be anything other than "rapper," "NBA star" or some variant of "hangin' wit ma homeez?" The next conservative candidate ought to take a blowtorch to that goddamned thug culture, NAACP and Jay-Z be fucked.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 27, 2013 02:18 PM (zF6Iw)

676 Stop calling her a child. She's 19. When I was 19 I was working and in my second year of university. Sheesh!
Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (RZwdH)

I was on an Aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf. Yeah, infantlizing her is getting old.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:18 PM (XIxXP)

677 Suspender man says she is "humanized." Dude, she thinks you are a creepy ass cracka along with the rest.

Oh! You have to be "sophisticated" to maintain a lie! I see!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (baL2B)

678 'court' analysts looooooove to talk about how beautiful she looks today just to appear like they're sensitive.

She's a fat retarded pile of contradictions.

Calling her anything else shows their bias.

Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (DKLl9)

679 Of course she's smart enough to lie. Ever work in juvie law? You know it.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (RZwdH)

680 669 - Same, a 19 year old is not a child, even if this one acts like one.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (7mQyC)

681 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you
know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically
designed test) your IQ's?




I do. It's higher than Morgan Fairchild's IQ. Who I've slept with!

Posted by: Jon Lovitz at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (/izg2)

682 top calling her a child. She's 19. When I was 19 I was working and in my second year of university. Sheesh!

Posted by: waldo
--------------

I have re-defined 'kids' to be 26 year-olds, so STFU.

Posted by: Barky at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (aDwsi)

683
IQ is no guarantor of fabulous success though. Witness, myself.

Same here (he said as he sat, funemployed and pantsless, contemplating a beer).

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (0HooB)

684 At some point will the defense ask her who wrote the letter for her? Now THAT would be some entertainment.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (EGPJQ)

685 ".... we have a 19 year old child here."

A U.S. Marine climbing a mountain in Kandahar calls "B.S."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (659DL)

686 "Or did I mishear that?" - I think you miss heard that, or she was answering another question.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (7mQyC)

687
Dumb people are also more likely to seek out racial/tribal bonds over broader American bonds.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 02:05 PM (ZPrif)

This truth is something I've been pondering for a while. I suspect that it's due to the fact that most of them have few individual achievements to be proud of.

It's no accident that racial pride and the hollowing out of the public education system ran along the same timeline.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (ThQzX)

688 Drink the beer, add ten ( temporary) IQ points.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2013 02:21 PM (ZshNr)

689 659, and it is sure no guarantee of a happy life....

Posted by: MoeRon at June 27, 2013 02:21 PM (ejHMs)

690 Same here (he said as he sat, funemployed and pantsless, contemplating a beer).
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (0HooB)

Aren't you a machinist ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 02:21 PM (nTgAI)

691
I speak fluent cursive.

A lot.

Especially around you assholes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 27, 2013 02:21 PM (HsTG8)

692 At some point will the defense ask her who wrote the letter for her? Now THAT would be some entertainment.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (EGPJQ)


Give her a pen and a piece of paper and ask her to write it again.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:21 PM (XIxXP)

693 She testified at the end that tray-tray, the sizzurp junkie, never used the word cracka.

A little different than all her previous testimony.

Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 02:21 PM (DKLl9)

694 WUT!!!

Posted by: RWC aka Wet Grass Whisperer at June 27, 2013 02:22 PM (fWAjv)

695 I like to compute the amount to tip in my head


in hexadecimal, in Chinese
------------------------

Octal. In Klingon.

_______________________




I compute tip amounts using YOUR money. In Austrian, bitches.

Posted by: Barack the Great at June 27, 2013 02:22 PM (/izg2)

696 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals",
how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a
specifically designed test) your IQ's? I do have a number I consider
mine, as well as a GT score that I can kinda try to translate to IQ.

Posted by: Lincolntf

===========

IQ 140 measured in high school. I imagine that the Value Rite has taken off a few points, 'cause I seem to be the dumbest smart guy I know.

Posted by: En Raged at June 27, 2013 02:22 PM (BSP4q)

697 I have found my long lost sister............ I am so happy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jabba The Hutt at June 27, 2013 02:22 PM (HlUFk)

698 NSA! She is fixin' to use her phone! Wiretap!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:23 PM (baL2B)

699 668 Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:17 PM (X6akg)



after a dramatically looooong pause in which her brain can't function without scrunching her face.....she said "I don't recall" IOW she doesn't wanna say yes

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 02:23 PM (qdzWt)

700 Wtaching the legainsurection feed. Did a crack whore just stumble into the courtroom?

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 02:23 PM (r98SZ)

701 If Z is convicted this judges behavior should give plenty of reasons for an appeal.

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 27, 2013 02:23 PM (nTgAI)

702 685 ".... we have a 19 year old child here."

A U.S. Marine climbing a mountain in Kandahar calls "B.S."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2013 02:20 PM (659DL)

AMEN

Posted by: RWC aka Wet Grass Whisperer at June 27, 2013 02:23 PM (fWAjv)

703 Oh vomit..."typical 19 yr old." Riiight.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:24 PM (baL2B)

704 Fifty years of "uplift" and trillions of dollars later ...

Posted by: En Raged at June 27, 2013 02:24 PM (BSP4q)

705 This is a "new world" you cracka old peoples!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:25 PM (baL2B)

706 WW II vet, Gordon Larsen, when asked what he was doing when he was 17, " I was landing on Guadalcanal."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 02:25 PM (aDwsi)

707 I.Q. I had to take a WAIS test last year, so I know what I had then. Don't want to brag but it was higher then I thought I'd ever have.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2013 02:25 PM (Fz2C7)

708 Wonder what's for dinner.

'Drank' or smoke?

Posted by: RWC aka Wet Grass Whisperer at June 27, 2013 02:25 PM (fWAjv)

709 If Reggie Love and I adopted a child, she'd look like Janteel.

Posted by: SCOAMF at June 27, 2013 02:26 PM (ejHMs)

710 Heh. The "creepy-ass cracker" questions were hilarious. I assume that the defence was trying tobring out how racist her sub-culture actually is towards whites, andindirectly impeach Trayvon's character?

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 02:26 PM (gZfUw)

711 New witness is a cracker!!

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 02:26 PM (r98SZ)

712 'Drank' or smoke?
Posted by: RWC aka Wet Grass Whisperer at June 27, 2013 02:25 PM (fWAjv)


And after that, chewy or crunchy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:26 PM (XIxXP)

713 GZ's Neighbor?

Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 27, 2013 02:27 PM (Cs2tJ)

714 Yes. She also signed it with someone else's name.

Not kidding, folks.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (kdS6q)


WHAT?!?

You're kidding, right? You've got to be kidding!

How is that even possible?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 27, 2013 02:27 PM (V1ZIU)

715 T-Mobile guy on the stand now.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 02:27 PM (gZfUw)

716 The court stenographer is doing a happy dance with the new witness.

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:27 PM (X6akg)

717
I watched some of the trial coverage last night on HLN. The commentators were actually lauding this young woman, claiming she made awonderful witness because she was so "urban" and "real" and "authentic."
All I could think was that if she's an example of "real" "urban" culture, that culture is headed for doom.

Posted by: enraged citizen at June 27, 2013 02:27 PM (/sohm)

718 Hell, I can't even spell IQ.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 02:28 PM (mvenn)

719 714 Yes. She also signed it with someone else's name.

Not kidding, folks.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2013 02:09 PM (kdS6q)


WHAT?!?

You're kidding, right? You've got to be kidding!

How is that even possible?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 27, 2013 02:27 PM (V1ZIU)


She signed it 'Diamond Eugene' which she claims is another name she uses.....aka an alias.

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:28 PM (X6akg)

720 Zimmerman must be related to Emmanuel Goldstein. Why else would we be required to hate him?

Posted by: Winston Smith at June 27, 2013 02:28 PM (B5y+v)

721 Man, I can't understand a word of what this T-Mobile guy is saying.¹


Notes: ¹ No, not really.


Posted by: Serious Cat at June 27, 2013 02:28 PM (UypUQ)

722 The TMobile Manager will explain to the jury how a TMobile phone can pick up the sound of wet grass

Posted by: SCOAMF at June 27, 2013 02:29 PM (ejHMs)

723 I have re-defined 'kids' to be 26 year-olds, so STFU.

-----------

Unless, of course, we're talking about 14-year-olds who need to get abortions and morning-after pills. Those right there are women.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone, But Just A Little at June 27, 2013 02:29 PM (GmTxn)

724 It is Bush's fault this young lady is an idiot. Bush lied and she lost her original IQ of 43.7.

Posted by: MSNBC at June 27, 2013 02:30 PM (3lMGK)

725 Guilt...Innocence. What difference does it make?!

Posted by: Hillary at June 27, 2013 02:30 PM (B5y+v)

726 Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 02:19 PM (DKLl9)

Beautiful is quite a stretch. I love how "tolerant" whites will describe any black woman as beautiful, even the hideous ones.

But she does have nice skin. Or really great foundation.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:30 PM (r+7wo)

727 She signed it 'Diamond Eugene' which she claims is another name she uses.....aka an alias

as opposed to "Stupid Twat", which she has recently adopted.

Posted by: SCOAMF at June 27, 2013 02:30 PM (ejHMs)

728 She signed it 'Diamond Eugene' which she claims is another name she uses.....aka an alias.

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:28 PM (X6akg)


To use Internet language that Diamond would possibly understand...OMFG!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 27, 2013 02:31 PM (V1ZIU)

729 I saw the crack addict walk in too. It's nothing.... just their culture..

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 02:31 PM (/jHWN)

730 sven! I understood your comment this time.

Yes, something needs to be done in those communities. Unfortunately, I am an outsider as I didn't grow up in this country, and the main similarity I have with AAs is skin color. (Well, there's also dancing ability and being late to functions, but that is something we Africans passed on to our descendants wherever they may find themselves in the world today.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:32 PM (r+7wo)

731 on a good day my is three digits of course there are a lot of good days for the last over 28 years

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 02:32 PM (yTLpe)

732 We have all of her calls on tape going back years, if anyone wants a laugh.

Posted by: NSA at June 27, 2013 02:32 PM (B5y+v)

733 423 Better teachers would mainly help the smart kids who are being held back by stupid teachers. The stupid kids will still be stupid.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 01:38 PM (ZPrif)


Meh. I think you're treating a spectrum with one attribute (smarts) as if it has two sides (smart and stupid). Think of heat - physically, there is no "cold" attribute - only absence of heat. What feels cold is just relatively less hot.

Stupid is being treated as if it's a trait, when it's really a lack of smarts - but it's relative, and there's still a curve on the "stupid" end of the smarts spectrum. There's stupid, and then there's literal bag of rocks stupid (as in a non-thinking bag of rocks). Even a "stupid" kid can have a lot of potential to tap into and to cultivate. A good teacher will aid that development; a malicious "teacher" destroys even that.

Basically I think "smart" is overrated, and your PoV is one that unnecessarily discounts human potential. There's more to a human being than his intelligence stat.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 27, 2013 02:33 PM (oY6Yp)

734 There is a lot of math, which is not my first language.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:33 PM (baL2B)

735 Posted by: NSA at June 27, 2013 02:32 PM (B5y+v)

Spill it Trudy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:33 PM (XIxXP)

736 To use Internet language that Diamond would possibly understand...OMFG!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 27, 2013 02:31 PM (V1ZIU)



It also came out that she goes by 'Dee-Dee' sometimes.

And she speaks 3 'languages'.

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:33 PM (X6akg)

737 I be using diffrant nams because I be votin for President Obama 4 times................

Posted by: Diamond Eugene at June 27, 2013 02:33 PM (HlUFk)

738 Diamond Eugene, I'm sorry, but that's a tranny name.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:34 PM (XIxXP)

739 Ok? Did the defense lawyer ask " Who did write the letter ? "Did someone make her sign it ?

Posted by: DrDrill at June 27, 2013 02:34 PM (sOFZs)

740 I'd hit it

Posted by: Survey says..... at June 27, 2013 02:34 PM (2cfUo)

741 not a lot of good days damn voice recog

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 02:34 PM (yTLpe)

742 642 Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals", how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's?


I do.

Back in school, I was preternaturally talented in some subjects and very average in others. All in all, it evened out.

I was in the advanced English and History classes where you got college credits in high school. The super-geniuses used to kind of look at me funny, like "what's THAT guy doing in this class?" They were used to being in all the same advanced classes with each other, and it must have been odd for them to see an interloper in just a few classes.

Especially with my leather jacket and perpetually-stoned eyes (I was no stranger to the evil weed in those days.)

Best part was, I would skip half the advanced English classes and still pull down high-90s. Finally my teacher took me aside one day and told me, look, you and I both know you can easily pass this class even if you rarely show up, but it's very disrespectful to me to do that.

She was a very nice lady and a good teacher, so I stopped skipping after that.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at June 27, 2013 02:35 PM (7ObY1)

743 "Cognitive constructs. I have a chalk board, book of many data, and was
taught memory palace mnemotics by my grandma and my 8th grade drop out
grandpa."

Thanks sven10077,.... I've never heard of constructing memory like that but found it online just now. Excellent. I know if we push ourselves, our minds can recall quite a bit. I'm going to work on this.

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 02:35 PM (/jHWN)

744 Can you hear me now ??

Posted by: wet grass at June 27, 2013 02:36 PM (2cfUo)

745 Cracka, I'm gonna eat your ewok like it was a spare rib....sho nuff...

Posted by: Diamond Eugene at June 27, 2013 02:36 PM (hZyOq)

746 Well, there's also dancing ability and being late to functions, but that is something we Africans passed on to our descendants wherever they may find themselves in the world today.

Posted by: chique d'afrique

I'm a pretty good dancer and regularly late to functions too even though I'm as white as can be as far as i know! Time to go on a family tree recon mission.

Time to get my 40 acres & a mule!

Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 02:37 PM (DKLl9)

747 230 her 8th grade english teacher shoudl be on trial.
Posted by: dillhole12 at June 27, 2013 01:16 PM (uURnG)

The blame might be even earlier than that. My wife is a freshman english teacher, and she gets a lot of students who are practically illiterate.

How does that happen? The students fail english in previous years, for any number of reasons. However, those schools are severely reluctant to hold a student back for any reason, mostly due to social stigma for the student. This problem only compounds, because it's imperative for the student to get caught up and that rarely happens.

So now they're in high school and expected to be able to read and write, and they can barely do either. They rarely develop any critical thinking ability because of this, given the fact that they're allowed to pass along in school. In some states, there are very lax english requirements for graduation; my wife frequently has seniors taking her freshman english class for the fourth time. They just have to pass that one class to graduate.

Posted by: Hal at June 27, 2013 02:38 PM (MftY/)

748
Aren't you a machinist ?

I was. I finished a 2yr course in Machine Shop in HS, then completed a 4yr Tool and Die Apprenticeship after that. I know how to program CNC machines, do QC inspection, know AutoCAD and have done some design work. I've been overqualified for a long time and can't buy a job down here.

Not even at one of the major employers who rhymes with Lockheed. They were looking for a Toolmaker recently, I applied, got nada. I've been trying to get on there for years with no success. Couldn't get on over at the Cape either, even with exp at MSFC.


It appears I've wasted a lot of time and effort to learn a trade I'm good at and enjoy. Thanks, NAFTA.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 02:38 PM (0HooB)

749 Can they not just stipulate that the phone records are accurate? Since the defense attorney pretty much stated it on the last witness.

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 02:40 PM (r98SZ)

750 Listen closley, can you hear me ?

Posted by: wet grass at June 27, 2013 02:40 PM (2cfUo)

751 There was a huge opportunity missed by the defense cross examine:

"Ms Jenteal, as you know Creole, please translate "cracka." Merci!

So, from what I can tell, this is the person the prosecution painted today:
1) English not her first language (ya think? I detected no Creole accent, cher).
2) She is a child
3) She is not sophisticated enough to lie
4) This is urban speak and you are old if you do not get the New World Order
5) She has impeccable manners, sir*

*Phone call to peeps: "Let's hit that bong and beer funnel like a pinata, yawl. I been dealin' with creepy ass bald crackas all damn day."

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 02:41 PM (baL2B)

752 Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 02:37 PM (DKLl9)


Lol, I have a Taiwanese friend who also had pretty good rhythm and was always late too. We used to joke that she wasn't really Asian.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:41 PM (r+7wo)

753 i'm loud as shit

Posted by: wet grass at June 27, 2013 02:41 PM (2cfUo)

754 747: My son is a professor of something or other at a private, Midwest college. He's shown me the writing "skills" of some of the better students from some of the better high schools who now are in his class.

The average civil war soldier wrote better than today's high school student.

Posted by: MoeRon at June 27, 2013 02:42 PM (ejHMs)

755 That does not come by osmosis. Her parents, and I bet there are two, one
man, one woman, spent many evenings reading to and with that child.
Schoolastic success is no accident. It takes work and dedication by
parents that give a shit.
--

You are right, Oldsailer. In fact, the story of how we found out she could read is a good example. My sister read 2 or 3 books to her every night before bedtime. One night when my niece was 3, my sister, half joking, said "I'm tired. Why don't YOU read the book to ME tonight." And my niece did just that.

It didn't take long to realize she hadn't simply memorized the words. We could pick out any book (she had a ton) and she'd read it, sounding out the words if she didn't know them. One of the best parenting techniques my sister uses is to not jump in and help her (in reading and other things) unless and until she really needs it. Our parents were like that too, hands off. I don't know if it was deliberate or not, but we had to figure out a lot things out for ourselves.

Posted by: Mayday at June 27, 2013 02:42 PM (eHc+1)

756 Yeah, infantlizing her is getting old.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 02:18 PM (XIxXP)


---------------------------------------------------


Isn't this the very same thing they've been trying to do with Trakycon from the beginning? Poor, poor chillren.

Sorry. I'm all out of mercy today.

Posted by: Soona at June 27, 2013 02:43 PM (vcFsU)

757 Jesus H! What does this vision of loviness and part time rocket scientist eat? A 1/2 cow a day? She eats more in one day than the entire population of some sub-saharan countries.......................................................

Posted by: Franklin Stein at June 27, 2013 02:43 PM (3lMGK)

758 743 yup

my grandmother was the teacher train she never practiced she taught my grandfather and expanded his horizons I do wish people took more interested or 3 to 5 year old cognitive development
best of luck if you need any help and I can just ask

Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 02:43 PM (eow+a)

759
Just out of curiosity, not asking for any "reveals",
how many of you know (by which I mean you remember a specific score to a specifically designed test) your IQ's?


Got told mine was "up there" in HS. No numbers, 'cause the lady who gave the test also was my best buddies' aunt. She was wise not to tell us.

Didn't do much good, sadly.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 02:44 PM (0HooB)

760 Posted by: Hal at June 27, 2013 02:38 PM (MftY/)

One of the aspects of my extreme culture shock when I came to this country for college was the discovery in Freshman English that some people that got into college could barely read or write.

We had to exchange essays once and give the author feedback, and I didn't know where to begin when I saw that my classmate used "homies" and "baller" in his process essay.

We had to read aloud in some classes in my secondary school in deepest darkest Africa, and I'm pretty sure 100% of my classmates were proficient in reading.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:45 PM (r+7wo)

761
Waiting for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to start the Sanford marches in 3-2-1...

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 02:46 PM (EGPJQ)

762 And we are about to hear expert testimony that cursive is the written language of white racists.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 02:47 PM (EGPJQ)

763 They just called Jack Baugher.

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 02:47 PM (r98SZ)

764 I remember seeing a Jay Leno Jay-walking video, probably posted here, in
which Leno interviewed a black couple in their forties and the father
of one of them---a man in his eighties.



Jay asked his usual questions and neither the younger man, nor the
woman could answer them correctly. Then he turned to the old man and
asked him the same questions; he knocked every question out of the park.


If I ever find myself in LA and someone tells me they'd like to ask me some questions on camera, I will RUN AWAY.

They only show the video if you screw up. You have no chance of looking even mildly intelligent. The entire purpose of the exercise is to laugh at the idiot on camera.

Posted by: T Tebow at June 27, 2013 02:48 PM (45N4D)

765 I be using diffrant nams because I be votin for President Obama 4 times................
Posted by: Diamond Eugene at June 27, 2013 02:33 PM (HlUFk)


----------------------------------------------------


And considering how elections are run nowdays, that's absolutely within the realm of possibilities.

Posted by: Soona at June 27, 2013 02:48 PM (vcFsU)

766 NM - they called Jenna Lauer. Not Jack Baugher.

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 02:49 PM (r98SZ)

767 I saw someone on twitter talking about this and had wondered it myself during Jeantel's testimony.....but defense didn't ask it.......


Could 'Get off me' could be slang for 'Get away'?

Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:49 PM (X6akg)

768 And considering how elections are run nowdays, that's absolutely within the realm of possibilities

Wrong.

it's "probabilities".

Posted by: MoeRon at June 27, 2013 02:49 PM (ejHMs)

769 Many of you probably wouldn't be surprise to learn just how many typical
high school students favor print over cursive because (believe it or
not) cursive is rarely taught in the lower grades anymore. In fact, many
districts do not bother because state standards - the end-all, be-all -
do not require it. Sad but true.


Whenever I write anything by hand other than checks, it's in cursive. I'm mid thirties.

Posted by: T Tebow at June 27, 2013 02:52 PM (45N4D)

770 Genitalia ( "That was a real knee slapper wasn't it? I crack myself up") is fat

And she's really big too

Did I mention of how much of a cow Trayvon's "ho" is?

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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:52 PM (MWJLy)

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Posted by: HLN at June 27, 2013 02:52 PM (DKLl9)

772 Holy smokes a witness that doesn't mumble!




Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:54 PM (7mQyC)

773 oh gosh she was watching celebrity apprentice.
...next witness. /jk

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:54 PM (7mQyC)

774 @chique d'afrique

I just want to apologize for my poorly 'ritten freshman essay u had to rede, i was compleatly drukn on likor and bere.

Posted by: Penfold at June 27, 2013 02:55 PM (Fbt5B)

775 Creepy Ass Cracker ain't racist or offensive!

Posted by: Fat Assed Hoochie at June 27, 2013 02:55 PM (qvPJn)

776 Can I take a brief off topic moment to celebrate?
I hope the parents here will understand. My teen son who has Asbergers is going away for two weeks to camp. I hope he has a wonderful time, makes friends and is safe and happy. When I told them at church that I was glad to have a break all the parents smiled so I hope nobody here considers I'm saying anything objectionable. Now I just have to make it until Sunday. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 02:57 PM (MWJLy)

777 So you would say mam it was back..and to the left ... back and to the left, back and to the left right?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 02:57 PM (7mQyC)

778 We've got no time for this!

Posted by: Jack Baugher at June 27, 2013 02:58 PM (codCi)

779 She says she had control of the remote vs. her husband.... credibility out the door right there.

778 - ha ha


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:00 PM (7mQyC)

780 My mother was a college English professor. She had to have students in Freshman composition who didn't belong there. She used to save some of their errors on writing assigmnents. My favorite was "My mother bore me standing up" which I think was intended to mean, "My mother raised me to be person of moral integrity."

My mother would roll her eyes at my egregious typos on here, but at least she would know I was literate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 03:02 PM (MWJLy)

781 Cursive...........aint nobody got time for that.

Posted by: Tray's my Boo at June 27, 2013 03:03 PM (2cfUo)

782 I know that a lot of folks under 30 have probably never been instructed in cursive, so it's not surprising that Ms. Jenteal couldn't read it.

What's surprising to me is that whoever wrote this letter for her in cursive never asked about her ability to read it.

Big, big mistake by the prosecution.

Almost like asking a 90 year-old, who never used a computer, about an email he sent.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at June 27, 2013 03:04 PM (OL4L4)

783
you know who else uses cursive ? Slave owners.
cursive = craka script

Posted by: Tray's my Boo at June 27, 2013 03:06 PM (2cfUo)

784 Does she seem the type to participate in flash mobs?

Posted by: sclc at June 27, 2013 03:06 PM (gNuGU)

785 Yelps. Rabid dog being put down?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:07 PM (7mQyC)

786 Crakascript™ I like it.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:08 PM (7mQyC)

787 Maybe if this witness yelled out Hey, I'm calling the cops! Trademark would have ran and George would not felt he had to shoot because help was on the way?

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 03:09 PM (RZwdH)

788 This one is easy on the eyes.

Posted by: trainer says HI to the NSA at June 27, 2013 03:09 PM (K5X44)

789 Oh so you stopped your husband from breaking it up? So you would say it's really your fault that TM is dead now right? /just saying

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:11 PM (7mQyC)

790 788 - Yeah I'd hit it.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:11 PM (7mQyC)

791 Fenelon my aspie son is going away for two weeks and I excited and scared to death. Cheers!

Posted by: thunderb at June 27, 2013 03:14 PM (QdTZd)

792 Could 'Get off me' could be slang for 'Get away'?
Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 02:49 PM (X6akg)

I'm pretty sure I've heard it used that way.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at June 27, 2013 03:15 PM (fzFF6)

793 Your husband is not the dog, madame...

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 03:16 PM (RZwdH)

794 792 - Possible.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:17 PM (7mQyC)

795 The culture that values education knows no limits.

The culture that doesn't... well, you've seen it in the witness box.

MLK Jr will be weeping in his grave. And well he should.

Posted by: perturbed at June 27, 2013 03:17 PM (u6Ueb)

796 I wonder if GZ is going to take the stand in his own defense. So far, no one can identify the voice calling for help and he can say That was me! without contradiction.

Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at June 27, 2013 03:17 PM (codCi)

797 One wonders if Rachael will be prosecuted for perjury????

One also must wonder if the Martin family will be charged for witness tampering in coaching her, I mean helping her recover her lost memory to make these supposedly previously unrevealed accounts in court???

Will a hand writing analysis be performed on the letter that supposedly was written by Rachael???? Who wrote the letter?

Are these questions too distracting from the MSM narrative? If so, forget you read this post.

Posted by: dscott at June 27, 2013 03:19 PM (PQhpg)

798 796 - The tards on tv says he'll have to (not in the legal sense though)... I don't really see any need yet for him to get on the stand, I'm not saying he should or shouldn't or if it's wise over all or not, just for now as juror I wouldn't be thinking "I have to hear from this guy" to make this call.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:25 PM (7mQyC)

799 One of the aspects of my extreme culture shock when I came to this country for college was the discovery in Freshman English that some people that got into college could barely read or write.
_______________________

Affirmative Action.

See, it would be raaaaaacist not to allow clearly unqualified people to go to college (or law school or medical school, etc.).

Posted by: Enraged Citizen at June 27, 2013 03:25 PM (/sohm)

800 Excuse me your honor, but this chair smells like ass.

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 03:27 PM (r98SZ)

801 Just thinking, if Ms. Jeantel were a white beauty pageant contestant, there would be no end to the mockery of her stupidity.

Buzzfeed would have non-stop posts about her idiocy.

Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 03:30 PM (DKLl9)

802 797 - My take away from dee-dee:

a) She knew the person that got shot very well and was in communication with him most of the day.
b) She was on the phone with the person that got shot leading up to the minutes before he was shot.
c) There was some discussion while on the phone with him that he thought someone was following him, described by the now dead TM as a creepy ass cracker. She assumed when the phone went dead TM was in an physical altercation with creepy ass cracker, this did not particularly alarm her.

d) She called back a minute or two later, upon no anwser she shrugged it off and paid it no concern until the following afternoon when she learned TM was dead from friends. She did not come forward for three weeks to tell anyone in LE or even TM's parents she may have been the last person to talk to him. (odd) The first person related to the case she discussed the events with was the Martin family attorney nearly a month later after being contacted.

e) She appears easily confused and her ability to recall events after they happen appears suspect given different versions of testimony and her own inability to remember what she has said even while on the stand from one minute to another.

f) She claims overhearing on the call the confrontation between the two parties beginning, that TM said words to the effect of "why you following me", and GZ saying "what are you doing here", and later someone saying "Get off" who she claims was TM. Given point E who said exactly what and in what manner is questionable as she appears to have given various different versions and different levels of detail of who said what over time.

g) The lying over age and her hospital stay to avoid involvement are noted, yet don't particularly seem directly relevant to the core of her testimony.

Net: This witness was all over the place on several fronts.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:33 PM (7mQyC)

803 re: Jenna - omg a witness that actually knows where a question is headed and just goes there saving everyone some time. Amazing.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:35 PM (7mQyC)

804 I don't think the NSA's computers can read cursive either.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 27, 2013 03:39 PM (yuTiW)

805 with a roll of the dice she could have been a juror not a witness

Posted by: tmitsss at June 27, 2013 03:41 PM (yuTiW)

806 I can't believe this is a prosecution witness...

Posted by: Mayor McCheese at June 27, 2013 03:41 PM (wuOQ2)

807 If she can't read shit, you must acquit.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 27, 2013 03:42 PM (K4AdI)

808
806 - I know.. once again O'mara seems to be getting everything he needs\wants.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:46 PM (7mQyC)

809 "Will a hand writing analysis be performed on the letter that supposedly was written by Rachael???? Who wrote the letter?
"

Jeantel answered that, it was a friend of hers that help compose then wrote the letter. Jeantel just signed it, with an alias. That isn't in dispute.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2013 03:46 PM (Fz2C7)

810 I guess she was all sweetness and light today...

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at June 27, 2013 03:46 PM (9+ccr)

811 Posted by: thunderb at June 27, 2013 03:14 PM (QdTZd)

Your son is not by any chance going to a Camp that is specifically intended for kids with a high fiuctiooning Spectrum disorders and ADHDis he? My son is.

I feel like a parrot "You know it's important to look people in the eye when you talk to them; I know that's hard for you, but look between their eyes." You've just recently figured out he has Asbergers. He's not officially diagnosed but he has every single symptom, and the camp psychologist seems to feel it's a real possibility. It's a whole new world for us.

We should keep in touch on here as camp goes on to see how each other is doing.

All the best.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 03:46 PM (MWJLy)

812 Meant "We've just recently figured out he has Asbergers"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2013 03:48 PM (MWJLy)

813

Go, O'Mara!

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 03:52 PM (RZwdH)

814 To summarize the last States witness, Zimmerman was a decent guy that was getting beat up and screaming for help. The States witness.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2013 03:55 PM (Fz2C7)

815 Ha ha that was funny about the husband not knowing where they were.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 03:56 PM (7mQyC)

816 814 - Seems that way, i was trying to think about why the State even called her... best I could come up with was to further establish that there were "yelps" but to me so far (at best) that doesn't really go either way. The down side is she just claimed GZ was the all around decent seeming guy in the neighborhood but really didn't see anything that night.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:01 PM (7mQyC)

817 Beat up? Where's the proof? How sleezy!

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:06 PM (RZwdH)

818 I can't believe that there wasn't a motion to keep this out before hand.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:06 PM (RZwdH)

819 Anybody can take out a TRO - no to little proof required. This is so sleezy.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:07 PM (RZwdH)

820 Wait the state gets to try and bias her opinion of GZ with past events she wasn't aware of at the time and only learned of post this event?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:07 PM (7mQyC)

821 sh1t that was all dismissed\resolved six years before the event... haha

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:09 PM (7mQyC)

822 This is bullshit. Both are playing to the juries. Also means that GZ will testify.

Did you know TM was a violent punk?
Did you know that TM routinely used dangerous drugs?
Did you know that TM was a thief?
Did you know that TM was suspended for 30 days this year alone?

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:10 PM (RZwdH)

823 chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 02:02 PM (r+7wo)

Heh. My degrees are in chemistry and chemical engineering.
I can read a map great but can barely figure out how to navigate my car out of the driveway. My wife does all the driving. My need to wear Coke-bottle glasses probably doesn't help.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at June 27, 2013 04:10 PM (TLokJ)

824
Can't the defense get the call logs for the phones to see if they indeed were cutting out as much as she claims they were?

Posted by: kj at June 27, 2013 04:10 PM (kw7uo)

825 More free advertising for FB and Twitter.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:11 PM (7mQyC)

826 Defense should rest. Call for fat assed district attorney gal to surrender her law liscense and report for incarceration for her racist profiling of a white man in favor of that Dead son of a Obama DSOAB!

Posted by: concealedkerry or submit at June 27, 2013 04:11 PM (vXqv3)

827 So the state is trying to impeach their own witness now? WTF?

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2013 04:12 PM (Fz2C7)

828 Waldo - Well the judge already ruled the defense can't use any of that. (Not unless I guess a witness or state some how brings it up on their own)

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:12 PM (7mQyC)

829 Again, it doesn't matter if OMara opened the door because GZ will testify and it will come in.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:13 PM (RZwdH)

830 824 - If you mean dee-dee...cell yeah they already did the call log break down yesterday, given the short durations and constant calls for awhile it did seem at least for a period 5-6:30ish there were issues that day.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:14 PM (7mQyC)

831 Uh, she could have responded to someone else's tweet and not the brother directly.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:14 PM (RZwdH)

832 I have followed people accidentally. I've done it numerous times. Especially with a touchpad.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:17 PM (RZwdH)

833 CRACK IS WHACK!

Posted by: Whitney 'an Shiiiiiii... at June 27, 2013 04:17 PM (qM5uD)

834 Sounds like she did not follow this person ... but GZ brother tweeted her.. and state is now saying cause the "follow" option is there in that tweet she some how followed him. Hilarious.

You FB'd your neighbor, and that neighbor is friends of GZ ..... how dare you!!!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:18 PM (7mQyC)

835 Well this prosecution is going down quicker than sandra fluke at Bill Clintoons bathroom pizza party, question is is Office Holder gonna have to cajones to try Zimmerman in Feral Court since this son of Obama needs retribution from his slaying after attempted murder of GZ!

Posted by: concealedkerry or submit at June 27, 2013 04:18 PM (vXqv3)

836 118 If I were the corrupt prosecutor, I would be getting a tad nervous when my "star witness" turned out to be retarded Jabba the Hut.

Posted by: maddogg at June 27, 2013 01:02 PM (OlN4e)

"Retarded Jabba the Hut"? That sounds like a good name for an alternative rock band.

Posted by: Slappy at June 27, 2013 04:19 PM (LTbLf)

837
@830
Thanks

Posted by: kj at June 27, 2013 04:19 PM (kw7uo)

838 She has made zero tweets. lol!

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:20 PM (RZwdH)

839 I can't watch this I am getting madder by the minute, this is Prosecutorial Punishment for defending ones self against a protected minority. Had one of his own taken out The Dead Son Of Obama we wouldn't have to be here today . The Govt is out of control and the remedy isn't pretty.

Posted by: concealedkerry or submit at June 27, 2013 04:24 PM (vXqv3)

840 One has to wonder do the prosecutors really believe this shit or are they just 'doing their job'?

Nearly every job I've had there have been things I really didn't want to do, but had to since my boss told me to.

The DA says jump, they have to jump.

Posted by: yomomma at June 27, 2013 04:34 PM (DKLl9)

841 Witness excused.

She didn't have much but what she had was solid and from what the jury heard, I can only imagine it favored the defense.

Notes: Heard confrontation start, heard about 3 phrases exchanged, then scuffling, then what seemed like wrestling and yelps and calls for help, called 911 - about 30 seconds from wrestling and first yelp to 911 connection and call. Kept husband from going outside and possibly stopping all this. During call heard other neighbor say something to the effect of "cut it out" - however can not be heard or is not distinguishable on tape. Tape matches additional yelps\life threatening explicit calls for help then gun shot. Some minutes after shots went outside when police seemed to be on scene - saw\heard GZ say he had gun and offer for it to be taken - did not think anything of the manner in which this was done. Confirmed (as others have) there were HOA issues with the cut-through. Vaguely knew GZ from neighborhood, knew he was in NW program, from what she knew he was decent, mild mannered guy.

Net: Witness seemed very credible did not appear to want to say or speculate about anything beyond the scope of what her limited direct knowledge of events.



Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:35 PM (7mQyC)

842 "840 One has to wonder do the prosecutors really believe this shit or are they just 'doing their job'? "
---

There are time I wonder the same - if they are doing this purposefully in order to help the defense or are just going through the motions as best they can with what little they have.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:36 PM (7mQyC)

843
I get the picture that Lauer has been a victim of crime. I suspect by her fear of letting anyone hear her call 911 or even going up and ID'ng GZ afterwards.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:37 PM (RZwdH)

844 OMG! Is it the crazy lesbian bitch?

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:38 PM (RZwdH)

845 Oh Jesus the next witness is testifying in Spanish only.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:38 PM (7mQyC)

846 She had no problem speaking english on all the television programs she got her fat face on.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:39 PM (RZwdH)

847 Yes! She's one half of Thelma and Louise.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:40 PM (RZwdH)

848 I "sell" construction equipment.... no speaky da english... 12 years....good grief...

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 04:40 PM (/jHWN)

849 Been in the states 12 years.... but doesn't really speak any English? JHC.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:41 PM (7mQyC)

850 I can't believe they called this nut.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:42 PM (RZwdH)

851 846 - Oh nice, I wasn't aware this one had been giving tv interviews.. sigh.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:42 PM (7mQyC)

852
"My children and the woman who's carpet I munch."

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:42 PM (RZwdH)

853 seriously? WTF? A spanish speaking columbian immigrant... 12 years in US... a citizen... can speaka de english but really not comfortable so wants to use spanish interpreter. Right now, Dee Dee is thinking, WTH?? I could have had a gibberish-mumbler interpreter??

Posted by: Yip at June 27, 2013 04:44 PM (/jHWN)

854 851 846 - Oh nice, I wasn't aware this one had been giving tv interviews.. sigh.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:42 PM (7mQyC)


All over the place: http://goo.gl/7vV0T

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:44 PM (RZwdH)

855 854 851 846 - Oh nice, I wasn't aware this one had been giving tv interviews.. sigh.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:42 PM (7mQyC)

All over the place: http://goo.gl/7vV0T

Cross is gong to be delicious. I'm going to savor it like a rich truffle.

Posted by: Ward at June 27, 2013 04:46 PM (SPaCH)

856 854 - Unreal, I hope O'mara at least mentions this somehow.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:47 PM (7mQyC)

857 No children were involved in this case.

Posted by: waldo at June 27, 2013 04:47 PM (RZwdH)

858 Am I right that from a quick Google even Sanford PD didn't find her all that creditable in their initial investigation?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:48 PM (7mQyC)

859
Hey, she read her name correctly - and it sounds like that could have been a lucky guess.

When I was teaching K-5 general music, there were not many times that I had the students do writing lessons or tests, but there were a few. Mostly grades 4-5. I would kiddingly say, "Please spell your name correctly" and a smattering of laughter would ensue. But I did get a 5th grader who actually misspelled his name (and, no, he was unfortunately not the kind of student who would do it to make me laugh). And he was not 'special ed'.

Posted by: dwagyak at June 27, 2013 04:54 PM (/vWYr)

860 Another description of the ground and pound.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:57 PM (7mQyC)

861 haha she just answered the question before it was translated. Her English for "Hey wants going on" sounds fine to me.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 04:59 PM (7mQyC)

862 daaam those are some big titties.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 05:06 PM (7mQyC)

863 "Why reasonable people go stark raving mad when anything involving
a Negro comes up, is something I don't pretend to understand." To Kill a Mockingbird, Chapter 9.

Posted by: Atticus Finch at June 27, 2013 05:08 PM (Xv7f/)

864 What a coupla days. I ate five donuts for lunch.

Posted by: Paula Deen at June 27, 2013 05:09 PM (Xv7f/)

865 If this is gonna be a long cross might as well break for the day.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 05:09 PM (7mQyC)

866 864 - Hope you didn't buy them at Walmart.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 05:10 PM (7mQyC)

867 Rachael Jenteal's vote for Obama in Florida 2012 was more important than mine in New York. That gives me a sad.

I'm in favor of the Electoral College, but I'm also in favor of required literacy civics tests to register to vote.

Posted by: Rogue Low-Level Employee at June 27, 2013 05:11 PM (epWQP)

868 She is just a breeder to create more voters for us and dependents on the system--but if she wants to terminate her pregnancies, that's ok, too.

Posted by: The DNC at June 27, 2013 05:15 PM (RnTRh)

869 "All White Jury Acquits Zimmerman In Shooting of Unarmed Teen"



Posted by: NYC Parent at June 27, 2013 05:16 PM (HEo6y)

870 what was the hippo's name in madegascar 2?

Posted by: phil at June 27, 2013 05:23 PM (lB/5N)

871 870 what was the hippo's name in madegascar 2?

Whatever it was, that was a beautiful, gorgeous, well put together hippo with a great attitude after being held down by crackas.

Posted by: white pundits at June 27, 2013 05:26 PM (DKLl9)

872 What was the point of making her get up and do that re-enactment? Time taken?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 05:28 PM (7mQyC)

873 Court going to recess for the day.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 05:40 PM (7mQyC)

874 "IQ is fluid."

Den sum you crackers need to get yo ass a'crackin' on puttin' it in da water.

D'you here me Dawg!

Posted by: Jeanteel Genious at June 27, 2013 05:40 PM (qYvEa)

875 Wut?!?

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at June 27, 2013 05:51 PM (codCi)

876 twitter questions were stupid....the prosecution thought they caught the witness following GZ's brother...when in fact, it was a list of suggestions of people to follow .....I get that all the time and have no idea who they are. she never actually followed him.....wish the jury could have seen that fiasco

Posted by: Kawfytawk at June 27, 2013 05:56 PM (qdzWt)

877 Zimmerman should not testify. If he does, the prosecutor can use the new nuclear option: "Have you ever in your life used the 'N-word'?" If he lies, perjury. If he's truthful, he's guilty. That's the way our "justice" system works now.

Posted by: En Raged at June 27, 2013 07:05 PM (BSP4q)

878 Let me get this straight.

Jenteal can't read or write cursive yet she had a "friend"who can read and write cursive and has him/her draft the letter which she signs with an alias.

Okaaaaaaaay.

It's been pointed out here that students in Jenteal's age group aren't taught cursive in school nowadays.

That would eliminate anyone in her age group she would consider a "friend".

That means it would have to been someone a lot older than her drafted the letter and and let her sign it with an alias.

You don't suppose one of the Justice Brothers flunkies or "Trey-Trey's" family put her up to this?

It would've been a simple matter for Jenteal to have named the individual who wrote that letter and have him/her come to court to substantiate her testimony yet she wouldn't name this supposed "friend".

I'm thinking Jenteal is a 2013 version of Tawana Brawley.






Posted by: Pakimon. at June 27, 2013 07:11 PM (qvPJn)

879 797
One wonders if Rachael will be prosecuted for perjury????



One also must wonder if the Martin family will be charged for
witness tampering in coaching her, I mean helping her recover her lost
memory to make these supposedly previously unrevealed accounts in
court???



Will a hand writing analysis be performed on the letter that supposedly was written by Rachael???? Who wrote the letter?



Are these questions too distracting from the MSM narrative? If so, forget you read this post.

Posted by: dscott at June 27, 2013 03:19 PM (PQhpg)

If the glove don't fit you can't acquit.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 07:12 PM (baL2B)

880 Yesterday she claimed that, over the cell phone, she could hear the
sound of "grass, wet grass." Yes, of course everyone hears vegetation,
and especially over a cell phone.
--------------------------

Well, The Move did have song called "I can Hear the Grass Grow", so I'm buying her story.

Good song, by the way. Great drumming by Bev Bevan.

Posted by: jbarntt at June 27, 2013 09:58 PM (UNFot)

881 Can't read, but she can roll the blunt with the best of them. This trial is disgusting. After seeing this it confirms what I have felt. Zimmerman is a hero. We should be thanking him for what he did.

Posted by: jefferson davis at June 28, 2013 08:40 AM (AEZbh)

882 34She had an IEP, I'll betcha.
Posted by: brown gargantua at June 27, 2013 12:50 PM (mV5Rx)******************Is this the new "short bus"? All three of my kids had an IEP, two because they are gifted.The third, of course, is a retard who rides the short bus to school.

Posted by: Teri at June 28, 2013 05:31 PM (2cu/g)

883 This is clear evidence of institutional racism that is inherent in the system. That we expect this woman to be able to read cursive, let alone English, only illustrates how racist our society is. Whiteness places importance on such things as speaking, reading, and writing standard English, and we are wrong to be shocked that this black woman can't read too well. Shame on us! Raaaaaaaaaaaacists!

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at June 29, 2013 06:53 PM (2/oBD)

884 Rachel
Jeantel has a new job. She's become one of the translators at the
United Nations. Her first day on the job went like this:

Senegalese Ambassador: 'What did the Uzbek Ambassador say?'

Rachel Jeantel: 'I don't know. I don't hear cursive, Mr AssHO!'


Posted by: Predictable History at June 29, 2013 07:45 PM (UG6Ql)

885 I live in Florida. From the beginning it was not about race until Fredika Wilson, Jesse Jackson, Al Shapton bought the black panthers shouting "a million dollars for the capture of Zimmerman" Btw Zimmerman never left the scene, he was the community watchman trained by the police. In fact Sanford police say he was the eyes and ears. He was not a white man like the black political leaders thought. He was of mix blood with black relatives. Spike Lee but a hit out on him giving the wrong address, two elderly white people were targeted, they had to move. If this is about race thank the black leaders that decided to throw their weight around. Tryavon Martin went to Miami Dade School where weeks before he was suspended for having in his locker women's jewelry and a robbery tool. His mother the same one that sits crying every day at the trial kicked her beloved son out of her home. He was sent to his fathers girlfriends house to live. He was a very sad young man and arguably someone could say angry. His record at school was not allowed in court so far. Yet Zimmerman's records are that he took Martial Arts well so did Tryavon Jujitsu. Zimmerman's visit to a psychologist . It is clear that Trayvon should have seen a psychologist he was kicked out of his Miami Dade school.
This 19 year old woman who is suppose to be creole Spanish and cannot speak English . Lied first saying she was younger so she would not have to testify. She lied that she wrote the letter. she lied saying Trayvon said "get off, get off of me" she could not have heard that for the phone went dead. When she told Martin to run he said "Nah, I am close to the house". He then called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker'. If she could not speak english rather ebonics, a translator should of been brought in but the prosecution failed its star witness. She really helped the Defense.

Posted by: Jane at June 30, 2013 01:44 PM (OyOxn)

886 Not going to get into the whole debate on whether or not she wrote it... But...


To the geniuses talking about her low IQ and other derogutorary names, did you realize that her first languages were Creole and Spanish? Speaking English as a third language can be only what I could imagine to be very difficult. From what I read all you can speak is Asshole.

Posted by: Jess at July 12, 2013 09:59 PM (8SdP6)






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