New York City's Special Counsel Registered as a Paid Lobbyist on Behalf of Bloomberg's 501c4 MAIG in Nevada

What's going on here?

Earlier this month, the New York Times reported that Michael Bloomberg had ramped up his gun control activism and started pressuring state governments to pass laws expanding background checks, among other measures.

CARSON CITY, Nev. — John W. Griffin is a fast-talking, whiskey-loving, fifth-generation Nevadan who spends his days as a lobbyist courting lawmakers in Stetsons. He advocates for luxury casinos, once brokered a dispute between a brothel and a nightclub, and has helped feuding families resolve tussles over cattle crossings.

Now he is representing the ultimate city slicker, Michael R. Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, who, undaunted by defeat in Congress, is taking his campaign for stricter gun laws to the nation’s state capitals, including here, where a bill to expand the use of criminal background checks is before the State Legislature.

On Friday, after responding to my initial report on Mayor's Against Illegal Guns' use of New York City's government servers for their website and domain, Bloomberg's Press Secretary Marc La Vorgna pushed back with this:
Bloomberg spokesman Marc La Vorgna emails, saying Mayors Against Illegal Guns is not "a 501(c)(4) social welfare organization," as this article originally stated.

The group's "action fund" -- a separate entity -- is the 501(c)(4). But, as Haberman and Friess note in Politico, "The overlap between Bloomberg’s groups and the city are evident throughout the registration information for several of the websites associated with them."

In Nevada, Bloomberg set to influence a background check bill by registering and paying 13 lobbyists. As you can see here, they were lobbying on behalf of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Action Fund. This is the 501(c)(4) entity, not the 501(c)(3) one according to Press Secretary La Vorgna.

One of the paid lobbyists registered in Nevada was Christopher Kocher, who is (according to his LinkedIn profile), Director of Outreach and Special Counsel at Office of the Mayor of New York City.

It appears as if Bloomberg is paying an employee of the city (Special Counsel, no less) to lobby on behalf of his 501(c)(4) from that action fund, which last week was claimed to be entirely separate from the 501(c)(3) which was using the city's servers.

A couple questions:

1. How is this ethical?

2. How is this legal? It's possible it could be, but it certainly doesn't seem right.

I had trouble confirming last night that Christopher Kocher was still an employee, but it appears to be the case, as Maggie Haberman of Politico reports.

Posted by: JohnE. at 08:45 AM



Comments

1 I sure don't have any answers to those questions, but I can say great work on this and congrats for being linked everywhere with the scoop!

Posted by: CaveJohnson at June 25, 2013 08:50 AM (O1/8v)

2 Mayor Bloomingdaleberg is 16 oz. short of being human.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (71LDo)

3 There's something rotten in the State of New York, and the stench is strongest in New York City.

Posted by: grognard at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (/29Nl)

4 Insty:



SHOCKER: Sneaky Anti-Gun Fanatic Bloomberg Spending NYC Tax Money on Gun Efforts in Nevada. This sounds like an investigation from the New York Attorney General is in order.

Posted at 8:42 am by Glenn Reynolds

Posted by: backhoe at June 25, 2013 08:53 AM (ULH4o)

5 Midgets with Napoleon complexes.

I'm shocked!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:53 AM (+98Gb)

6 2 Mayor Bloomingdaleberg is 16 oz. short of being human.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (71LDo)


He banned everything taller and sweeter than him, i.e. 2-liter bottles of soda.

Little fucking Hitler.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:54 AM (+98Gb)

7 JohnE

good job, be careful ...this guy is vindictive as hell....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 25, 2013 08:54 AM (8JJ6O)

8 3 There's something rotten in the State of New York, and the stench is strongest in New York City.
Posted by: grognard at June 25, 2013 08:51 AM (/29Nl)


Ever been to Albany, dude?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (+98Gb)

9
and the stench is strongest in New York City.





Funny, we used to think that smell was New Jersey.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (MBqvE)

10 I see that Insty is linking to JWF on this.
And JWF is linking to JohnE's original article here.

Nice to see some more coverage of this

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (ct8kX)

11 It is legal because "Granny" Bloombergis a liberal elitist without morals or integrety and he is rich enough to payoff anyone that cannot be intimidated.
In other word "Scum" which is why he get along so well with the administration in Washington, they are brothers and sisters of the heart.

Posted by: John21 at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (46VAS)

12 Silly douches. Rules are for conservatives.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (fwARV)

13 They will need some kind of mesh to keep him from sliding through the bars.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (z9HTb)

14
This is kick -ass. And in the middle of moonbat hell

http://tinyurl.com/ph7zroa

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (OlN4e)

15 They will need some kind of mesh to keep him from sliding through the bars.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (z9HTb)

You called?

Posted by: Trans-Vaginal Mesh at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (fwARV)

16 JohnE,

I hope you don't live anywhere near New York state.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (GQ8sn)

17 Why are any states listening to these people anyway. Nevada is becoming California minor. So is AZ. Watch out, TX. The blue disease is spreading in your direction too.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2013 08:58 AM (0125T)

18 Bloomberg has meddled in Ohio politics and it went nowhere. I don't think people here appreciate his input. Hope he lost a bundle.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (9Mux3)

19 I'm ready for the Burning Times.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (fwARV)

20 Laws are for little people. Liberals believe in their tiny little brains that they are so smart, so superior, and so correct and benevolent in their goals that breaking laws to accomplish them is ok.

And they get away with it every damn day.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (g1DWB)

21 Now he is representing the ultimate city slicker, Michael R. Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, who, undaunted by defeat in Congress, is taking his campaign for stricter gun laws to the nation¡¯s state capitals, including here, where a bill to expand the use of criminal background checks is before the State Legislature.


Someone check on Curly's gold.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (KvM9d)

22 19 I'm ready for the Burning Times.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at June 25, 2013 08:59 AM (fwARV)


I would rather be the one holding the torch than dodging the flames.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 09:00 AM (+98Gb)

23 This is kick -ass. And in the middle of moonbat hell

http://tinyurl.com/ph7zroa

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 08:57 AM (OlN4e)



Those rounds are kind of expensive. And I think they're re-manufactured too. Shooting a jihadi with or without the "Enchanted Porcine Round of Heavenly Denial" works for me.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)

24 You silly right-wing haters. Michael Bloomberg is a wise and bipartisan leader. His ideological commitment to the improvement of humankind is unquestionable. Therefore anything he does to continue improving this horrible country, starting from its most important city, is completely justifiable for a greater good. Our beloved President Obama, who we in Brattleboro support completely, counts him as one of his most valuable allies.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at June 25, 2013 09:02 AM (jCQ+I)

25 Wait a Democrat misusing government resources? In the Northeast no less?

Nothing will come of this.

Except maybe that audit John E. is I am sure preparing for.

Posted by: blaster at June 25, 2013 09:02 AM (c28BI)

26 19 I'm ready for the Burning Times.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence


See nic....

Posted by: I'm lighting my torch now... at June 25, 2013 09:03 AM (ULH4o)

27 Bloomberg previously tried to buy guns across state lines as part of one of his publicity campaigns.

Jackass is a felon, just like so many other elected scumbags.

This is just exhibit 2034AA-B/4C.

People need to re-learn the recall, and use it, A LOT.

Politicians should wake up drenched in sweat worrying about whether they'll have a job in the morning, just like everyone else.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at June 25, 2013 09:04 AM (qyfb5)

28
Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)




Nothing wrong with reloads. I would trust my life to my carefully crafted hand cast bullets in my carefully prepared and loaded brass. Sealed against moisture at both the crimp and primer pocket.

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:04 AM (OlN4e)

29 Those dudes in the roman senate knew how to deal with shit like this.

Posted by: Berserker at June 25, 2013 09:05 AM (FMbng)

30 Excellent post, JohnE.

Involve the former Mayor of Las Vegas, Oscar Goodman, if possible.

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 09:06 AM (MhA4j)

31 29 /conspiracy theorist!/

Posted by: panzernashorn at June 25, 2013 09:06 AM (MhA4j)

32
Remember when people tried to pass Bloomberg off as a Presidential candidate (possibly running as independent) claiming his "business experience" would make him appeal to conservatives.
Time did a whole portrait on him saying "he ran New York like a business."
Clearly more like the mafia.
I wish I could go to people I know who thought his soda ban was a "great idea" to "protect people from themselves" and say "where's your tiny god now!"

Posted by: tsrblke at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (GaqMa)

33 Nothing wrong with reloads. I would trust my life to my carefully crafted hand cast bullets in my carefully prepared and loaded brass. Sealed against moisture at both the crimp and primer pocket.

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:04 AM (OlN4e)



Well, they seem kind of expensive for reloaded ammo. Usually, they're cheaper.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (GQ8sn)

34 What was that saying, "hubris comes before the fall."

Bloomberg's ego is writing checks even the combine bank accounts of his personal fortune and NYC can't cover. Mixing private and public funds for a private political agenda. Paying people on the government payroll, hey isn't that bribery? Do we have RICO here?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:09 AM (STdzY)

35 Rich people have separate laws and super rich people like bloomberg have mostly not laws restraining them like us normal peons. And if you don't like them apples, he will just jet off in his private jet to some exotic island and pick his nose

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2013 09:11 AM (9Bj8R)

36 Forget it, Anna. It's Bloomietown.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:11 AM (GQ8sn)

37 Trying to buy an extended mag in MD, just to give Bloomy the finger.

*placeholder for ASCII middle finger*

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 25, 2013 09:12 AM (X4HxX)

38 EC, so who's going to get his nose sliced by a knife and who will get their brains blown out?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:12 AM (STdzY)

39 EC, so who's going to get his nose sliced by a knife and who will get their brains blown out?


I hope not JohnE!

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:13 AM (GQ8sn)

40 Those rounds are kind of expensive. And I think they're re-manufactured too. Shooting a jihadi with or without the "Enchanted Porcine Round of Heavenly Denial" works for me.


Silver Bullet Gun Oil. Manufactured with 13% pig fat. silverbulletgunoildotnet.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:13 AM (KvM9d)

41 If it had been a conservative lobbying against gun control he would be in court already.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:14 AM (lZvxr)

42 Ever been to Albany, dude?





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2013 08:55 AM (+98Gb)


Of course. And at least half the assholes there are from NYC.

Posted by: grognard at June 25, 2013 09:14 AM (/29Nl)

43 Well, they seem kind of expensive for reloaded ammo. Usually, they're cheaper.Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:08 AM (GQ8sn) Cheaper? Yeah, but what's it worth to send a jihadi straight to Hell, do not stop, do not pass go, just into the pit for eternity. Plus, when they hear about your special bullets, the terrorists will feel terror. Worth a little more to me to terrorize the goat fucking sand fleas.

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:14 AM (OlN4e)

44 When folks start calling Nevada a border state, blatantly lying in front of our eyes and telling us it's truth (setting us up for some bigger lie later) - and we collectively as a nation lap it up, if we even bother to notice...yeah.

I'd say as much as it pains me to say it, this cake is baked. The burning is coming and there's not much anyone can do about it.

Posted by: akula_51 at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (Vgn84)

45 Firearm ownership and American Freedom are directly related. Which is why Bloomberg's greatest desire is the enslavement and persecution of any American who dared to dream they were free.

Posted by: Grandmaster Flash at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (9auGS)

46 When folks start calling Nevada a border state


It borders California.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)

47 Irresponsible reporting by non-credentialed "journalists" is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: The Progressive Borg at June 25, 2013 09:17 AM (JQuNB)

48 The burning is coming and there's not much anyone can do about it.

Posted by: akula_51 at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (Vgn84)

I don't think the elites are gonna actually let things burn completely. They will use any and every crisis to garner ever more control and power....

Posted by: KG at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (p7BzH)

49 NYC is a shit hole. It has a commission to insure that British themed Pubs can not advertise to hire Brits for bartenders.


And that is one of its lesser traits.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (lZvxr)

50 Cheaper? Yeah, but what's it worth to send a jihadi straight to Hell, do not stop, do not pass go, just into the pit for eternity. Plus, when they hear about your special bullets, the terrorists will feel terror. Worth a little more to me to terrorize the goat fucking sand fleas.


Dipping your rounds in some bacon grease works too.

Just saying.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (GQ8sn)

51 SHOCKER: Sneaky Anti-Gun Fanatic Bloomberg Spending NYC Tax Money on Gun Efforts in Nevada. This sounds like an investigation from the New York Attorney General is in order.

The NY AG is too busy trying to shut down all sources of energy, nuclear, coal and fracking, to look into official corruption and criminality.

Posted by: real joe at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (PD2ad)

52 OT kinda

This is what the GOP should be doing -
http://tinyurl.com/pt6serv

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (STdzY)

53 How is this legal?

That's so cute how we think our rulers are gonna follow laws.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (/kI1Q)

54 I know nothing about the various legal and ethical rules regarding lobbying work vis a vis other employment so this is talking out my ass even more than usual, but I bet the claim will be that it's legal and that care is taken to separate out the work for the city from the lobbying work yadda yadda yadda.


Isn't this kind of thing that Mrs. Weiner is currently in trouble for doing?

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (VtjlW)

55 I don't think the elites are gonna actually let things burn completely. They will use any and every crisis to garner ever more control and power....


Math is a bitch. They can have all of the control & power they want. When the FSA checks stop coming, hello Sierra Leone.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (KvM9d)

56 Bloomie is a power hungry, third rate Napoleon wanna-be with little man syndrome.

Posted by: real joe at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (PD2ad)

57
Dipping your rounds in some bacon grease works too.

Just saying.Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:18 AM (GQ8sn) Unsalted lard is best, for obvious reasons. But for the budget jihadi slayer, that is a viable and effective option

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (OlN4e)

58
I'd say as much as it pains me to say it, this cake is baked. The burning is coming and there's not much anyone can do about it.

Posted by: akula_51 at June 25, 2013 09:16 AM (Vgn84)

Aye. Congress knows its idiot subjects well.

Let it burn. Ain't a damn thing anyone can do to stop it. Pray, and let it burn.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 25, 2013 09:21 AM (fIUCx)

59 How is this ethical?

========
Because the children!!!!
Wingnutz!

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 25, 2013 09:21 AM (3LaGb)

60 And California has turned into Mexico del Norte.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:21 AM (STdzY)

61 When folks start calling Nevada a border state





Remember, BATFEIEIO is now requiring FFLs to report anyone buying multiple semiauto rifles........but only in "border" states. Effectively, a National Gun Registry, which is supposed to be illegal. Stop laughing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2013 09:21 AM (MBqvE)

62 48 They will use any and every crisis to garner ever more control and power....

Like anything truly "viral", once the actual crisis gets hot, there will be nobody driving that bus but the mob. Like there's going to be anyone "in charge"...lman

I just don't get why these douches think they're so special. Over the course of recent human history, it seems from my perusal that people eventually get sick of that shit and overthrow said Governments.

Posted by: akula_51 at June 25, 2013 09:22 AM (Vgn84)

63 Math is a bitch. They can have all of the control power they want. When the FSA checks stop coming, hello Sierra Leone.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:20 AM (KvM9d)

See, I don't think that's gonna happen. When it gets bad enough, they will invent some crisis, maybe a war as it has historically been the case, to distract everyone and "resolve" the situation in their favor.

Posted by: KG at June 25, 2013 09:23 AM (p7BzH)

64 When the FSA checks stop coming, hello Sierra Leone.

I like your optimism.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 25, 2013 09:25 AM (/kI1Q)

65 The rule of law in America has crash-landed in a remote corner of the Rockies. Recovery efforts are not even remotely close to being underway.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 25, 2013 09:25 AM (659DL)

66 BTW, I never expect legal or ethical behavior from leftists. The don't give a fuck about legality, and they don't have ethics, so why feign surprise when that is demonstrated?

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:25 AM (OlN4e)

67

See, I don't think that's gonna happen. When
it gets bad enough, they will invent some crisis, maybe a war as it has
historically been the case, to distract everyone and "resolve" the
situation in their favor.


Posted by: KG at June 25, 2013 09:23 AM (p7BzH)

It'll be difficult to invent that particular brand of madness since about a quarter of the populace is wide awake and expecting such an invention.

That'll cause complications.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 25, 2013 09:25 AM (fIUCx)

68 When the FSA checks stop coming, hello Sierra Leone Match King from outta nowhere.

Payback is a vicious royal bitch... and there are some payback bills being earned - of legendary proportion.

Posted by: Grandmaster Flash at June 25, 2013 09:26 AM (9auGS)

69 It's a tax.

Posted by: John Roberts at June 25, 2013 09:26 AM (tOkJB)

70 I just don't get why these douches think they're so special.






I can't help thinking about the Hollywood fortress story in World War Z (the book). It'll end up the same way, with the hired security walking out the back door with the purse dog while the Free Shit Army assaults the front gates.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2013 09:27 AM (MBqvE)

71 Nevada is a western state. I wouldn't expect them to easily give up their guns.

Posted by: Here Come Da' Judge at June 25, 2013 09:27 AM (RZwdH)

72 When the FSA checks stop coming, hello Sierra Leone.


Is that like Liberia and the fighting going on there?


*dons women's wigs and undergarmets for +5 resistance to gunshot injuries*

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:27 AM (GQ8sn)

73 "Remember, BATFEIEIO is now requiring FFLs to report anyone buying
multiple semiauto rifles........but only in "border" states.
Effectively, a National Gun Registry, which is supposed to be illegal.
Stop laughing."

Which was the whole point of Fast Furious. The borg is learning, they thought they had to go all Machiavellian to do it in their first term; now they understand the media will hold their jock - so they just do it.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 09:28 AM (CMlD4)

74 I had the Orwellian naming that all the progger orgs use. Mayors Against Illegal Guns, pah. Are there mayors somewhere in favor of illegal guns?

Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at June 25, 2013 09:29 AM (codCi)

75 EC, nice

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2013 09:29 AM (CMlD4)

76 hate. dammit.

effin .087 interface

Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at June 25, 2013 09:30 AM (codCi)

77 EC, try the new and improved burqua made of Kevlar...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:31 AM (STdzY)

78 71

Yeah they would....they keep voting in Reid. As long as they have cowboy poetry they are fine being disarmed....you know...kinder, gentler cowboys

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 25, 2013 09:31 AM (qdzWt)

79 This is what the GOP should be doing -
http://tinyurl.com/pt6serv

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:19 AM (STdzY)



Ted Cruz = Hannibal

US Senate = Romans at Cannae

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:31 AM (GQ8sn)

80 That'll cause complications.


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 25, 2013 09:25 AM (fIUCx)

Maybe, if we're not already too shackled when that portion of the populace finally decides to take real action.

Posted by: KG at June 25, 2013 09:32 AM (p7BzH)

81 It's still legal for ordinary citizens to buy guns from individuals with no background check and no paper trail. This will not stand!

Posted by: The Progressive Borg at June 25, 2013 09:33 AM (JQuNB)

82 EC, try the new and improved burqua made of Kevlar...


But the bras and panties look so pretty on me!

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)

83 EC, try the new and improved burqua made of Kevlar...


Under the brand name "Hag Bag".

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:35 AM (KvM9d)

84
Nevada is a western state. I wouldn't expect them to easily give up their guns.

Posted by: Here Come Da' Judge at June 25, 2013 09:27 AM (RZwdH)

Almost ALL of the people in NV live in Las Vegas and Reno and they are mostly ex patriot California idiots. The true western Nevadans live out in the desert and there isn't that many of them. That is why it has turned blue.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:35 AM (lZvxr)

85 Yeah they would....they keep voting in Reid. As long as they have cowboy poetry they are fine being disarmed....you know...kinder, gentler cowboys


aka, Brokeback.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2013 09:36 AM (KvM9d)

86 Bloomberg is a malignant butt growth.

Posted by: ontherocks at June 25, 2013 09:36 AM (7/NGN)

87
Speaking of Liberia, I was always impressed with the quality of the Rebel military leadership. Point in case: General Butt Nekkid.

http://tinyurl.com/5ybh7j

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:36 AM (OlN4e)

88 Ben dump

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2013 09:37 AM (lZvxr)

89 Don't forget kiddies, Liberia was created by the US to repatriate ex-slaves. For all those like Sharpton and the Jackson Mafia... why don't they move there. The US went and created a country for those who wanted to go back. So go back please!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 25, 2013 09:38 AM (STdzY)

90 Speaking of Liberia, I was always impressed with the quality of the Rebel military leadership. Point in case: General Butt Nekkid.


What a piece of shit. Someone ought to "accident" one of his kids.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:39 AM (GQ8sn)

91 Posted by: EC at June 25, 2013 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)
The fact that they *exist* is really the point. As long as they're in business no jihadi can be sure they won't be used on him. We all know they're going to hell anyway, but this way they'll be less certain themselves and some may choose to back out.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at June 25, 2013 09:41 AM (WxM5m)

92 Plus, when they hear about your special bullets, the terrorists will feel terror. Worth a little more to me to terrorize the goat fucking sand fleas.
Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2013 09:14 AM (OlN4e)

That.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at June 25, 2013 09:42 AM (WxM5m)

93 The US went and created a country for those who wanted to go back.

They don't actually want to go back--why would they? They wouldn't have a fraction of the power there that they have here.


In other news, don't try to eat cherry PopTarts after getting a paint-on fluoride treatment. Dammit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 25, 2013 09:43 AM (/kI1Q)

94 >>> Ben dump

Just don't do it in an empty toll booth.

Posted by: Kevin Nam at June 25, 2013 09:43 AM (z9HTb)

95 alright, I have a question, The 'border' states would like special provisions because they are on the front lines of illegal crossings? so they want special gun rights laws or restrictions?

yet these are the same states leaders advocating for open borders (cali, Nevada= (lol)) ?

If both these things are True (?) Why isn't this used as material against the advocates as showing the lack of border control makes border states more dangerous ?

if this doesn't make sense , I claim lack of coffee.


alex, tea.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2013 09:59 AM (nqBYe)

96 that's it, I'm never reading comments again, It makes me end up asking a question on an empty thread! @#@5

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2013 10:01 AM (nqBYe)

97 What Bloomberg has done in NY is a series of federal felonies. We can expect Atty Gen Holder to be on this progressive miscreant any moment now....

I'm sorry, I break myself up sometimes.

Posted by: An Observation at June 25, 2013 11:18 AM (ylhEn)

98 Bloomie spent a small -- actually, a large -- fortune buying the mayor's office, and an even larger one buying a second term, so I think he has a right to enjoy a few perks. Not that he couldn't afford to buy them, too.

Posted by: Jerome at June 25, 2013 12:11 PM (eQa5p)






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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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