David Gregory Wonders Why Glenn Greenwald Shouldn't Be Charged With a Crime

On Meet the Press David Gregory had a contentious exchange with Glenn Greenwald in which he asked if Greenwald should be criminally liable for "aiding and abetting" Edward Snowden.

You are a polemicist here; you have a point of view; you are a columnist; you're a lawyer. You do not dispute that Edward Snowden has broken the law, do you? . . . To the extent that you have aided and abetted Snowden, even in his current movements, why shouldn't you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime?

It's clear Gregory is fairly un-self-aware. He attacks Greenwald, while suggesting Greenwald has a point of view, before assuming a criminal "aiding and abetting" relationship in his question. Greenwald responded:

I think it's pretty extraordinary that anybody who would call themselves a journalist would publicly muse about whether or not other journalists should be charged with felonies. The assumption in your question, David, is completely without evidence--the idea that I've "aided and abetted" him in any way. The scandal that arose in Washington before our stories began was about that fact that the Obama administration was trying to criminalize investigative journalism by going through the emails and phone records of AP reporters, accusing a Fox News journalist of the theory that you just embraced: being a co-conspirator in felonies for working with sources. If you want to embrace that theory, it means that every investigative journalist in the United States who works with their sources, who receives classified information, is a criminal.

Gregory didn't like being steamrolled, and went back to his ad hominem attack.

Well, the question of who is a journalist may be up to a debate with regard to what you are doing; and, of course, anybody who is watching this understands I was asking a question. That question has been asked by lawmakers as well. I'm not embracing anything.

No, the question hasn't been asked by serious people, and asking Greenwald about it on Meet the Press gives it undue weight. But that's what you do when you seek to discredit someone who is damaging the party/administration you support. He's right about one thing, though: there is a question here about who is a journalist, although I don't think it cuts in the direction Gregory thinks.

Gregory immediately started taking a beating on Twitter, and--maybe surprisingly--most of it was from the left. First, a tweet from Greenwald, followed by some of the reaction to the interview:









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Comments

1 My favorite burn:

"Has David Gregory ever publicly wondered if powerful DC officials should be prosecuted for things like illegal spying & lying to Congress?"

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 01:49 PM (X4HxX)

2
How does David Gregory feel about Julian Assange/Bradley Manning?

Or was what those two did "different"?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 23, 2013 01:50 PM (ADnWI)

3 Love the leaks, annoyed with the leaker.

Sort of like love the sinner, hate the sin, right?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 01:51 PM (X4HxX)

4 Uhhhh...unless Greenwald is actually on US territory (thought he is in UK?), what jurisdiction does US have over him? Even if he WAS aiding abetting?

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at June 23, 2013 01:51 PM (FWwQD)

5 Or was what those two did "different"?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 23, 2013 01:50 PM (ADnWI)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 01:51 PM (X4HxX)

6 As much as I despise NBC I have to say Meet The Press was much better when they had Tim Russert.I watched one show with Gregory and turned it off never to be seen in my house again.


In short David Gregory is a shit.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 01:53 PM (lZvxr)

7 Gregory should have thrown his illegal magazine at Greenwald.

Posted by: real joe at June 23, 2013 01:53 PM (PD2ad)

8 I'm pretty sure something is racist here. Somehow.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at June 23, 2013 01:53 PM (uE7DN)

9 Can they both lose?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 23, 2013 01:53 PM (7V8r+)

10
@5 Exactly.

Wonder if Mr. Gregory has contributed to Manning's defense - or if he has an "I am Bradley Manning" bumper sticker on his car.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 23, 2013 01:54 PM (ADnWI)

11 Hawt Blue On Blue Action!!!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2013 01:55 PM (TIIx5)

12 so the connected journalists get to violate gun laws and decide who is an unconnected journalist. I think we've seen this movie before.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at June 23, 2013 01:55 PM (uE7DN)

13 The miracle is that Gregory was able to ask ANY question with his lips plastered so tightly to O'Bumble's ass cheeks.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 23, 2013 01:55 PM (ndlFj)

14 Breaking: Snowden is fleeing to Ecuador, according to the Ecuadorian govt.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 01:57 PM (X4HxX)

15 When you have Glenn Greenwald AND David Limbaugh beating up this douchebag at the same time, then life's good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2013 01:57 PM (+98Gb)

16 Story in nick.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 01:58 PM (X4HxX)

17 David Gregory is a gun law violator as should have been prosecuted as one. And since he is in the employ of an NBC affiliate, that makes him a terrorist.

Posted by: Fritz at June 23, 2013 01:58 PM (G9Mmf)

18 The media has already done it's part in covering for Obama and the NSA. It's all Snowden, all the time. And I've noticed a lot of right wing blogs have played right along with it.
Fuck Snowden, this is about the current administration, the NSA and the Fourth Amendment.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 01:58 PM (Fz2C7)

19 Oooook, Ecuador's embassy is where Assange is hiding from rape charges.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 01:59 PM (X4HxX)

20 Wonder if Mr. Gregory has contributed to Manning's defense - or if he has an "I am Bradley Manning" bumper sticker on his car.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 23, 2013 01:54 PM (ADnWI)


I have no doubt that Gregory strips naked at night, hides his junk between his legs, and sings I Feel Pretty, while fantasizing about Breanna Manning.

Posted by: An Artist With A Thompson at June 23, 2013 01:59 PM (RZwdH)

21 18 The media has already done it's part in covering for Obama and the NSA. It's all Snowden, all the time. And I've noticed a lot of right wing blogs have played right along with it.
Fuck Snowden, this is about the current administration, the NSA and the Fourth Amendment.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 01:58 PM (Fz2C7)

True. But the drama is hard to resist.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 02:00 PM (X4HxX)

22 18 IRSIRSIRS

Posted by: Tonic Dog at June 23, 2013 02:00 PM (uE7DN)

23 Nobody will likely confuse David Gregory with a journalist.
Sure, he's a Journo-List-er.
But he is a Democrat hitman.
And that is all he has ever been.

With their man in "control" they let the scales slip.
And it is ugly in there.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at June 23, 2013 02:01 PM (JSmUP)

24 @ Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 01:53 PM (lZvxr)

Exactly my feelings. I didn't share the same political leanings as Russert, but I certainly respected him as a journalist.

Didn't matter which side of the aisle you sat on, if you showed up on MTP during the Russert era you were going to get grilled, fairly, but grilled nonetheless.

David Gregory is a smarmy, sanctimonious progressive ass kisser.

And he looks like the Grinch - that's a face that even his mother must recoil in horror from.

Posted by: turfmann at June 23, 2013 02:01 PM (GgGgG)

25 18 The media has already done it's part in covering for Obama and the NSA. It's all Snowden, all the time. And I've noticed a lot of right wing blogs have played right along with it.
Fuck Snowden, this is about the current administration, the NSA and the Fourth Amendment.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 01:58 PM (Fz2C



THIS. Don't get me wrong; Snowden should face the music, whether it's 30 years in Leavenworth or the wrong end of a rope.

But that can wait until the important issue - the instrumentalities of our government being used against the citizenry - is dealt with. What Snowden uncovered is one of the most serious events/threats to the republic in our history.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2013 02:01 PM (+98Gb)

26 Maybe he should have asked his question in French. He's bi, you know.

Posted by: BignJames at June 23, 2013 02:02 PM (Sg0G/)

27 Nobody will likely confuse David Gregory with a journalist.

A chimp, yes, journalist, no.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:03 PM (6TB1Z)

28 Ecuador is trying to become the new face of Latin Left.
Unfortunately for Ecuador it's too small, shitty, remote, elevated, and unimportant for American's to notice that Ecuador has been trying to piss us off for a while now.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 02:04 PM (ZPrif)

29 Gregory has his lips so firmly affixed to obamas ass that even a crow bar couldn't separate them. Fuck him and the horse he rode on...

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at June 23, 2013 02:04 PM (9+ccr)

30 I really really like the Zimbabwe reference.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:04 PM (wPxCh)

31 "You I are a polemicist here; you I have a point of view; you I are a
columnist (gag, puke, razzberry) journalist; you I are a lawyer. I do not dispute that Edward Snowden David Gregory has
broken the law, do you? . . . To the extent that I have aided and
abetted pinko, commie, progressives, even in his our current movements, why shouldn't you I, Mr.
Greenwald, David Gregory, be charged with a crime?"

Fixed it.

RICO all banksters, IRS bureaucrats and their ho politicians.

Oh. And make hollywood pay taxes on the billion$ of movie revenue.

Posted by: Tortuga at June 23, 2013 02:04 PM (FmyWU)

32 Glenn Greenwald, who I have never met personally but have only ever heard good things about, is most certainly a journalist. Now good day to you, sirs!

Posted by: glenno greenwaldo at June 23, 2013 02:04 PM (9+vDU)

33 It's funny that none of these commentators remember the NYT running classified documents on the front page repeatedly throughout the Bush years...

Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 02:05 PM (MMC8r)

34 Yeah dandy let the 2 pricks fight, while all the while the entire world, especially the Ruskies and the Chicoms spit in obama's face, which I could care less about, except in this case he does represent the United States of America. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 02:05 PM (jE38p)

35 And he looks like the Grinch - that's a face that even his mother must recoil in horror from.

That's unnecessary. I prefer "A face from which even his mother must recoil".

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:05 PM (6TB1Z)

36 "I have no doubt that Gregory strips naked at night, hides his junk between his legs, and sings I Feel Pretty, while fantasizing about Breanna Manning..."

After which he will pleasure himself while doing a show stopping tribute to Ethel Merman singing "There's No Business Like Show Business!"

Posted by: turfmann at June 23, 2013 02:06 PM (GgGgG)

37 28
Ecuador is trying to become the new face of Latin Left.

Unfortunately for Ecuador it's too small, shitty, remote, elevated,
and unimportant for American's to notice that Ecuador has been trying to
piss us off for a while now.


Equador: You despise me, don't you America.

America: Oh, if I gave you any thought, I probably would.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:07 PM (6TB1Z)

38 If I were President, I'd intercept that plane on the way to Cuba caring Snowden and force it to land in Florida.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 02:08 PM (jE38p)

39 38 If I were President, I'd intercept that plane on the way to Cuba caring Snowden and force it to land in Florida.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 02:08 PM (jE38p)

Yeah, but you would be a real president not a pretender like we have in the WH

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at June 23, 2013 02:09 PM (9+ccr)

40 Equador: You despise me, don't you America.

America: Oh, if I gave you any thought, I probably would.
Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:07 PM (6TB1Z)


If America wanted to, it could make life difficult for Equador. Not under this President, mind you, but it is possible

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 02:09 PM (jE38p)

41 Ecuador is 50% larger than Cuba population wise. But Americans literally don't know where it is. The average LIV probably can't even figure out the equator clue in their stupid name.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 02:10 PM (ZPrif)

42 "That's unnecessary. I prefer "A face from which even his mother must recoil".

Oh, fine.

Not only is the NSA reading my comments, but now they're correcting my grammar.

Posted by: turfmann at June 23, 2013 02:10 PM (GgGgG)

43 Nevergiveup, if this administration does that it will be amusing to see Gaylord retreat behind the Reagan era intercept of the Achille Lauro terrorists.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:10 PM (wPxCh)

44 32 Glenn Greenwald, who I have never met personally but have only ever heard good things about, is most certainly a journalist. Now good day to you, sirs!
Posted by: glenno greenwaldo at June 23, 2013 02:04 PM (9+vDU)

Here, here!

Posted by: Cabana Boy at June 23, 2013 02:10 PM (X4HxX)

45 "glenno greenwaldo"

Yeah, I almost forgot about his sockpuppeting trolling.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 02:14 PM (Fz2C7)

46 Wasn't it Gregory who got off with DC officials about that illegal (or is that undocumented) gun clip.

Talk about those with glass houses not throwing stones

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 23, 2013 02:14 PM (e8kgV)

47 Exactly my feelings. I didn't share the same political leanings as Russert, but I certainly respected him as a journalist.



Didn't matter which side of the aisle you sat on, if you showed up
on MTP during the Russert era you were going to get grilled, fairly, but
grilled nonetheless.



David Gregory is a smarmy, sanctimonious progressive ass kisser.



And he looks like the Grinch - that's a face that even his mother must recoil in horror from.

Posted by: turfmann at June 23, 2013 02:01 PM (GgGgG)

I think the difference is that Russert liked politics. He enjoyed the rough and tumble world and liked stirring it up to get at the truth. Gregory likes being the center of attention and making sure his views are dominant.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at June 23, 2013 02:15 PM (1hekh)

48 If America wanted to, it could make life difficult for Equador. Not under this President, mind you, but it is possible

Posted by: Nevergiveup


Tangentially related: I'd wondered why Argo got so much good press from Hollywood, seeing how it's about a CIA guy and all. I watched it last night, and now I know. The opening 5 minutes set the stage, and are all about how evil America did mean things to Iran, so we really deserved the hostage taking, etc. (there is the tie-in to you Equador comment) Despite that, the movie is quite entertaining.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:16 PM (6TB1Z)

49
Did David Gregory ask himself that to a mirror or did he denounce himself after he asked the question to GG aka Spankme McSockpuppet?

The mental gymnastics he must go through have to be totally lacking.

Posted by: Gmac at June 23, 2013 02:17 PM (IanLz)

50 At least with Cuba and Venezuela we kind of wish they would like us cause they have nice beaches.

Havana or Caracas might be a decent place to put a Caribbean Disney theme park some day.

But Ecuador? Quito is like 2 miles in elevation.

I'd rather just watch Emperor's New Groove than actually visit Ecuador.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 02:17 PM (ZPrif)

51 David Gregory a journalist?

David Gregory isn't a human being. He's an ambulatory pile of shit molded into the shape of a human being.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 23, 2013 02:17 PM (V1ZIU)

52 Personally, I don't like most of the positions held by Greenwald, but unlike most of the Progressives out there, Greenwald doesn't change his positions to match the press releases from Media Matters (and the White House).

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 23, 2013 02:17 PM (e8kgV)

53 38
We have a president? Who knew.

Posted by: Tuna at June 23, 2013 02:18 PM (M/TDA)

54 The opening 5 minutes set the stage, and are all about how evil America did mean things to Iran, so we really deserved the hostage taking, etc. (there is the tie-in to you Equador comment) Despite that, the movie is quite entertaining.
Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:16 PM (6TB1Z)

Yep. They didn't mention how all democrats, communists, academics, etc, were getting lined up and executed.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 23, 2013 02:18 PM (X4HxX)

55 David Gregory was behind me in line at Union Station the other day. Would have been fun to have engaged him on this. Poor timing!

Posted by: Crispian at June 23, 2013 02:20 PM (+qU9V)

56 Tte David Schuster tweet had to hurt. I guess when you leave NBC on bad terms you don't mind a little parting shot.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 23, 2013 02:21 PM (OWjjx)

57 This from the dude who should have had that 30 rd magazine pounded into his ass with a 2 pound sledge by the government but managed to skate.

Posted by: Berserker at June 23, 2013 02:22 PM (FMbng)

58 Wasn't it during Y2K the saying made the rounds

"This New World Order
has a Third Reich odor?"

Barky's enablers are beginning to smell....

Posted by: backhoe at June 23, 2013 02:23 PM (ULH4o)

59 Meanwhile,Gregory broke the law on live TV with no consequences.

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2013 02:23 PM (9XBK2)

60 That Greenwald is almost as bad as someone disobeying clearly written local laws. Like laws against possessing a high-capacity magazine in DC, madly waving it around for everyone to see. On TV even.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 23, 2013 02:24 PM (xw77v)

61 Shouldn't Gregory have been charged for that AR15 magazine he held up on the air a few months ago?

It WAS illegal, wasn't it?

Posted by: gastorgrab at June 23, 2013 02:24 PM (FX38i)

62 Ugh Markey the Malarky on Fox live attacking Gomez.. run away!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:24 PM (wPxCh)

63 Doesn't the Gregory fellow have a formal title? Something akin to "The unprosecuted felon" David Gregory?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 02:25 PM (0HooB)

64 9 Can they both lose?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 23, 2013 01:53 PM (7V8r+)

Ultra-leftist piece of shit versus ultra-leftist piece of shit. Yeah, I'm having a hard time picking sides here, too.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at June 23, 2013 02:26 PM (7xeJQ)

65 Free as a bird, baby! Free as a bird!

Posted by: David Gregory at June 23, 2013 02:27 PM (V1ZIU)

66 Nullification of federal law.

"Sorry, but in the sovereign state of X we determine for ourselves whether or not we need to follow a given federal law."

Posted by: RiverC at June 23, 2013 02:27 PM (KTytI)

67 Markey's opponent is a commie in Rino clothing. No different than Lady Lindsey and Juan McCain.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:28 PM (SkhKv)

68 Watching the evolution of Greenwald over the years has been quite interesting.

Greenwald has evolved from hack to genuine journalist, while Gregory has taken the reverse path evolving from journalist into hack.

Posted by: Purp at June 23, 2013 02:28 PM (/gHaE)

69
It WAS illegal, wasn't it?

For us, the Lumpenproletariat, yes.

For him, the Ruling Elite, not so much. IMO, the DC DA should be fired.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 02:28 PM (0HooB)

70 Well..., that's rich..., the Huff Po challenging one of their Fellow Traveling Obama enablers.

Bi-Polar? Or just confused? But then, confusion is just a symptom.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 02:29 PM (aDwsi)

71 Unprosecuted felon and unofficial mouthpiece for the Obama administration David Gregory.

The pay is good and kneepads are provided by the GSA.

Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 23, 2013 02:29 PM (xw77v)

72 I don't know what just happened in my mouth, but it tastes like love.

Posted by: David of Gregory: Royal Knob Slobberer at June 23, 2013 02:30 PM (i7B17)

73 Pesky things like gun laws don't apply to the ruling class progressive trash.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 02:30 PM (ZPrif)

74 Greenwald should have shot back asking why Gregory's wife is not rotting in prison for her role in destroying the economy while making herself filthy rich

Posted by: Albie Damned at June 23, 2013 02:30 PM (Yhu4q)

75 {What Snowden uncovered is one of the most serious events/threats to the republic in our history.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2013 02:01 PM (+98Gb)}

How do you square this with:

{THIS. Don't get me wrong; Snowden should face the music, whether it's 30 years in Leavenworth or the wrong end of a rope. }

Seems that either he's a horrible traitor for informing the US public about the unconstitutional actions of the US government or he's done us all a great service for the same.

Posted by: Lazarus at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (q4ggw)

76 If I loathed the TFG administration for nothing else, it would be for making me have any type of grudging admiration for Greenwald. It has come to this.

brb committing seppuku

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (Gk3SS)

77 David Gregory is just getting warmed up. His next target is Paula Deen

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (R8hU8)

78 Hostess: Twinkies Returning To Shelves In July



So it really benefited the union to be recalcitrant-thousands lost their jobs and aren’t getting them back. Yay, unions!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (jE38p)

79 Am I the only one seeing an embiggened blog?

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:34 PM (SkhKv)

80 Why does the color yellow come to mind?

Posted by: sTevo at June 23, 2013 02:34 PM (dlAh+)

81 Infidel, what does it look like?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:35 PM (Iyg03)

82 Please pardon the OT, but I thought the NSA should know that I'm at one of those deadly church potlucks. It's one of those Evangelical Christian churches, you know, those weird people who believe that human nature cannot be perfected by government programs.

We saved you some strawberry pie.

Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 02:35 PM (OnR0C)

83
I have my boyfriend's name tattooed on my butthole.


Only had to pay for 4 letters. BAMA

Posted by: David of Gregory: Meat Sheath at June 23, 2013 02:35 PM (i7B17)

84 rd, WIDE.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:36 PM (SkhKv)

85 No, Infidel, it's showing up all stretched out on my phone too.

Posted by: L, elle at June 23, 2013 02:36 PM (0PiQ4)

86 the NSA should know that I'm at one of those deadly church potlucks. It's one of those Evangelical Christian churches

Drone strike powers, ACTIVATE!

Posted by: The NSA at June 23, 2013 02:36 PM (xw77v)

87 Where does it start?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:36 PM (Iyg03)

88 Isn't Gregory himself a gun felon, albeit, one with the pull to escape punishment?

THE BALLS ON THESE GUYS!

Posted by: toby928© at June 23, 2013 02:37 PM (QupBk)

89 Also, is it the font or is it the blog width?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:37 PM (Iyg03)

90 David Gregory, ferret faced rat hack.
He's the creeping snitch who would report you to the "office" in high school.

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 02:38 PM (aUQgu)

91 David Gregory (Undocumented Felon - DC) muses that journalism is a crime. A charge he'll never have to worry about.

Posted by: Whatwesettlefor at June 23, 2013 02:38 PM (b1EPA)

92 Dinner tonight with the MIL..... the one that says that 'anyone who works, works for the government' and 'the government is my favorite charity.'


Anyone have a rope?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 23, 2013 02:39 PM (l3vZN)

93 Boom goes the hammer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2013 02:39 PM (XS/b3)

94 Only Gregory can get away with crime while journalisting...
The party loyal always have that privilege afforded them.

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 02:39 PM (MhA4j)

95 And Glenn used Rick Ellsberg as his middleman so it's all good anyway.

Posted by: toby928© at June 23, 2013 02:39 PM (QupBk)

96 Gregory actually couldn't let it go and kept on with the excuse of him only being a journalist by just asking questions.

http://tinyurl.com/kq9mx4f

Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 02:39 PM (Fz2C7)

97 Mmmmmnmmmhmmm

Posted by: David Gregory Sucking Obama's Cock at June 23, 2013 02:40 PM (jx1IL)

98 Isn't Gregory himself a gun felon, albeit, one with the pull to escape punishment?

He plea-bargained on the basis of "tender rectum" and the DA decided a lifetime of performing voluntary fellatio on the President was punishment enough.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 23, 2013 02:40 PM (xw77v)

99 "Well, the question of who is a journalist may be up to a debate"
I think the best that can be said about Greenwald is that he has committed occasional random acts of journalism, but that is still more than can be said about Gregory.

Posted by: Thresherman at June 23, 2013 02:41 PM (Vbcjo)

100 RdBrewer -- it has something to do with the way the video is embedded that causes this. Purp knows how to fix it.

Posted by: L, elle at June 23, 2013 02:41 PM (0PiQ4)

101 rdbrewer, from the top. Gonna reboot and try again.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:41 PM (SkhKv)

102 Reminds me of the joke. Guy is at a bar putting down shots. Obviously getting hammered. Guy next to him say, buddy slow down, what's the problem?

Guy said just had my first blow job. Guy says so what.

The drinker says, trying to get the taste out of my mouth.


News at 11.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at June 23, 2013 02:42 PM (Cydud)

103 Jinx, for you or the MIL?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:42 PM (wPxCh)

104 How does it look now?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:42 PM (Iyg03)

105 I removed some of the embed code.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:43 PM (Iyg03)

106 Going old school here:

A pox on both their houses. They are indistinguishable. Both need to be punched in the face.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (1sUs7)

107 Looks fine now, rd. Don't know if it was you or the reboot.

Hi horde.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (SkhKv)

108 WoW! Can David Gregory be more of a gov't hack?

Posted by: firefirefire at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (nAkDV)

109 Dinner tonight with the MIL..... the one that says that 'anyone who
works, works for the government' and 'the government is my favorite
charity.'


I am a Fed. Please tell her to cut out the middleman, and mail her check directly to me. I'd thank her, but you know, she owes it to me.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (6TB1Z)

110 brb committing seppuku

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (Gk3SS)


Hopefully it won't be accompanied by an I-hate-I95 Interpretive Dance of Rage.

Posted by: Vendette at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (iXuYG)

111

"I have no doubt that Gregory strips naked at night, hides his junk
between his legs, and sings I Feel Pretty, while fantasizing about
Breanna Manning..."


Omg! I do the same thing, in front of the mirror each day!

So does Mooch.

Posted by: Baraky at June 23, 2013 02:45 PM (qoQi/)

112 Just imagine what I would have called Glenn if there were an (R) president.

Posted by: David Gregory at June 23, 2013 02:45 PM (jx1IL)

113 Gregory needs to end his life with the barbed cock of satan.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:45 PM (SkhKv)

114 107
Looks fine now, rd. Don't know if it was you or the reboot.



Hi horde.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (SkhKv)
Don't be sucking up. Only show up once a week?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at June 23, 2013 02:45 PM (Cydud)

115 You fixed it, rd. thanks! a lot easier on the eyes and I don't have to scroll side to side anymore.

Posted by: L, elle at June 23, 2013 02:45 PM (0PiQ4)

116 75

Seems that either he's a horrible traitor for informing the US public about the unconstitutional actions of the US government or he's done us all a great service for the same. Posted by: Lazarus at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (q4ggw)

Why is there the implication that the possibilities be mutually exclusive? It sound to me that Snowden both a) blew the whistle regarding unconstitutional espionage upon US citizens AND b) blabbed to China et al. about our espionage abroad. Yes, it really can be both a dessert topping AND a floor wax.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at June 23, 2013 02:46 PM (7xeJQ)

117 Elle, howz it look?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:46 PM (Iyg03)

118 113
Gregory needs to end his life with the barbed cock of satan.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:45 PM (SkhKv)


Can I watch?

Posted by: barney at June 23, 2013 02:46 PM (Cydud)

119 Oh, cross-post.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2013 02:46 PM (Iyg03)

120 I shall ponder who gets the rope. Meanwhile back out in the broiling sun to build a concrete form. Have a great day everyone.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 23, 2013 02:46 PM (l3vZN)

121 Hopefully it won't be accompanied by an I-hate-I95 Interpretive Dance of Rage.

I haven't seen that dance myself, but am quite familiar with the 495 sign language and mime combination.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 02:47 PM (6TB1Z)

122 AlextheChick, sepukku?

So who gets the Sybian with the nuclear power plug?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:47 PM (wPxCh)

123 They really seem to take Their jobs lightly eh?

So if a reporter reports information you don't want reported because SHUT UP., than off with their heads!

similar to video guy?

they are sure of themselves, do they think They will be in power indefinitely?


they must.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:47 PM (nqBYe)

124 Want to attack or protect your political cronies? Who needs antique measures like bills of attainder when our Panopticon State can pick and choose at will whom to prosecute for any transgression? You reading this are already felons, having broken dozens of arcane laws or regulation on the books of hundreds of federal agencies from the fucking EPA and IRS on down to local licensing agencies for crap like haircuts and gardening.

The republic is a fiction. It's only by safety in numbers or political protection from cronies that untold numbers of us are not in jail or worse: under investigation. Where the process is the punishment itself.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 23, 2013 02:48 PM (xw77v)

125 My question is why isn't David Gregory serving time for a clear violation of the high capacity magazine ban. Or at least having to spend thousands of NBC's dollars to challenge his conviction on 2nd amendment grounds, which would be so delicious that I'm gaining weight just thinking about it.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 23, 2013 02:48 PM (afG7W)

126 alex, Noooooo! but if you do, may i borrow your cute little silver sandals?


Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:49 PM (nqBYe)

127 Billy Bob, no. Sometimes comment during the week. Mostly a lurker. Have been busy the past few weeks ....

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:49 PM (SkhKv)

128 92 Dinner tonight with the MIL..... the one that says that 'anyone who works, works for the government' and 'the government is my favorite charity.'


Anyone have a rope?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 23, 2013 02:39 PM (l3vZN)

Start drinking now.

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 02:49 PM (0n1+D)

129 Lib vs Lib attacking is always good. Maybe this will take off and be a new thing. But how quickly the dumber one forgets he just broke the law a few months ago.

Posted by: Fact Guy at June 23, 2013 02:49 PM (EMye6)

130 Greenwald is a sodomite and a traitor. Gregory is a useful idiot for Obama and an unindicted illegal arms felon.

Let them devour each other. I'll bring the popcorn.

Posted by: Guy Est at June 23, 2013 02:50 PM (cYpor)

131 The blog looks OK to me now.

OT, but I just read this absolutely fantastic post by Sarah A. Hoyt about amnesty and the Burning Times:

http://tinyurl.com/lkoddy4

She's an immigrant herself, by the way. The kind we want.

Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 02:50 PM (sdi6R)

132 I wouldn't mind if a few journalist were locked up over some minor technicality. This might help release the vapor lock the mfm have on TFG's vagina.

Posted by: sTevo at June 23, 2013 02:51 PM (2F32t)

133 Hey AlextheChick, ShoeBuy is having a 20% off sale that ends today.

Are these boots stompy enough?
http://www.shoebuy.com/pleaser-flair-2010/241786/518027

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:51 PM (wPxCh)

134 Jinx, I would claim severe pms. and i won't be liable for my actions? and if they woulld like to back out of the dinner date , because I would certainly understand.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:51 PM (nqBYe)

135 Seems that either he's a horrible traitor for
informing the US public about the unconstitutional actions of the US
government or he's done us all a great service for the same.

Posted by: Lazarus at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM


There's no either/or. The answer, without question, is BOTH.

That's why I advocate giving the slimy little leaker an cell that adjoins Choom Boy's. When there is criminal behavior on both sides, both must be punished.

And Greenwald should be charged with a misdemeanor for appearing on Gregory's show. NBC never, ever misses a chance to suck President Historic First's© toes. Which, come to think of it, qualifies them to be charged as accessories to a whole shitload of crimes.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 23, 2013 02:52 PM (/RIVS)

136 alex, Noooooo! but if you do, may i borrow your cute little silver sandals?




Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:49 PM (nqBYe)



Yes. Yes, you may. Aren't they awesome?


Hopefully it won't be accompanied by an I-hate-I95 Interpretive Dance of Rage.

Posted by: Vendette at June 23, 2013 02:44 PM (iXuYG)



I-95 wasn't that bad actually. I could have done without leaving in the middle of a fucking monsoon though.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 02:52 PM (Gk3SS)

137 They are indeed the cutest sandals i've seen in a while.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:54 PM (nqBYe)

138 Hi ATC, you cute thing you

you never got your crown, next time I'm bringing one for you.

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 02:54 PM (0n1+D)

139 Jinx, I would claim severe pms. and i won't be liable for my actions? and if they woulld like to back out of the dinner date , because I would certainly understand.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:51 PM (nqBYe)


Minor issue: Jinx is a guy.

Posted by: Vendette at June 23, 2013 02:54 PM (iXuYG)

140 Don't get carried away praising Russert; wasn't his strange memory responsible for Scooter Libbey's prosecution?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 23, 2013 02:55 PM (x4gwG)

141 vendette, oy.

sorry Jinx!

hands you a brewsky!

is that male enuff for you?

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:55 PM (nqBYe)

142 Are these boots stompy enough?
http://www.shoebuy.com/pleaser-flair-2010/241786/518027


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 02:51 PM (wPxCh)



Why, yes, yes they are.


Hi ATC, you cute thing you



you never got your crown, next time I'm bringing one for you.





Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 02:54 PM (0n1+D)


*waves*

I will graciously accept.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 02:57 PM (Gk3SS)

143 sigh, puts dunce cap back on.
(blast it, i felt so free for a few minutes)

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 02:57 PM (nqBYe)

144 OT of course.

The "new" amended amnesty bill.
First, the bill does not alter the fundamental legalization-first structure of the original Gang of Eight bill. The nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants will be granted legal status within months of the bill becoming law, before enhanced border security and interior enforcement measures are in place. But the bill does put in place new requirements that those measures be finished before millions of legalized immigrants can move on to permanent legal resident status — green cards — and ultimately to U.S. citizenship. Even so, there remain some of the exceptions and waivers that critics pointed out in the original bill.

*eats shit sandwich*
*smacks lips*

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 23, 2013 02:58 PM (xw77v)

145 The pool at my complex has mysteriously gone from crystal clear blue to murky green.


How can that be?

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 02:59 PM (fsLdt)

146 Ohhe, Anna, those are nice. Could bring the big stomp to the muzzies with pig leather!

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 03:00 PM (SkhKv)

147 so Snowden is heading to venezuela, that really doesn't help his cause.

still I'm glad to know i must cover my screen before doing the wild thing, or cutting my toe nails. (shudder how gross)

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:00 PM (nqBYe)

148 Soylent?

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 03:01 PM (aUQgu)

149 I wouldn't mind if a few journalist were locked up
over some minor technicality. This might help release the vapor lock the
mfm have on TFG's vagina.

Posted by: sTevo
---------------------------

So far, I have not witnessed any genuine outrage among the MSM over the AP wiretapping, Rosen wiretapping, NSA shenanigans. I suppose that IF Holder jailed a couple of them they MIGHT get the picture, but I doubt it.

Here is a succinct commentary on Hitler's use of newspapers:
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/newspapers_nazi_germany.htm


Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:01 PM (aDwsi)

150 "Meanwhile,Gregory broke the law on live TV with no consequences."

What Law? There is only Authoritah!

Posted by: Eric "Cartman" Holder at June 23, 2013 03:01 PM (ndlFj)

151 Don't get carried away praising Russert; wasn't his strange memory responsible for Scooter Libbey's prosecution?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 23, 2013 02:55 PM

Perjury is part of the Jurno-List Lodge Initiation.

Posted by: Luke R. Witness for Hire at June 23, 2013 03:01 PM (MhA4j)

152 Glenn Greenwald is a admitted Marxist.
Fuck Glenn Greenwald.

Posted by: Muddywood at June 23, 2013 03:01 PM (qURNb)

153 Did any of you get some laugh out of Jazzy's attempt at restoring his stardom with his "debunking" article on Daily Beast that he said would "blow Greenwald out of the water"

Well, it was a rehash of his FTP for Dummies cut and paste, along with "Google says they followed the rules, that's good enough"

Tina Brown must be desperate to protect the Prophet Obama if she's reduced to letting Cali Cheetohs Man write an article

Only Meggie Mac's presence on her staff kept that from being the dumbest article they ever printed

Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 03:02 PM (/9IC1)

154 Soylent?


I suspect.

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 03:02 PM (fsLdt)

155 135 Seems that either he's a horrible traitor for
informing the US public about the unconstitutional actions of the US
government or he's done us all a great service for the same.

Posted by: Lazarus at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM


Did he actually divulge something any one here didn't already know? The N(o) S(uch) A(gency) is spying on people, duh. Only he let everyone know that we are all be snooped at and the bad guys are not that stupid to figure out that there is serious snooping going on (see bin Laden using couriers instead of phones, computers etc. etc.)

Posted by: Ma Bell at June 23, 2013 03:03 PM (RLdcX)

156 152
Glenn Greenwald is a admitted Marxist.
Fuck Glenn Greenwald.


Posted by: Muddywood at June 23, 2013 03:01 PM

Do you think this would have the traction it's getting if Snowden was working with someone on the right?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 03:03 PM (/9IC1)

157 "145
The pool at my complex has mysteriously gone from crystal clear blue to murky green.


How can that be?"


Too much spinach yesterday.

Posted by: guy in 18C in eleven's complex at June 23, 2013 03:04 PM (Fz2C7)

158 Do you think this would have the traction it's getting if Snowden was working with someone on the right?

*Nominates remark for Rhetorical Question of The Year*

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 23, 2013 03:05 PM (xw77v)

159 The pool at my complex has mysteriously gone from crystal clear blue to murky green.

*****

Sounds like a baby crapped in the pool.

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 03:05 PM (MhA4j)

160 The pool at my complex has mysteriously gone from crystal clear blue to murky green.
-------
Algae bloom. Time to nuke it..., or make soup.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:05 PM (aDwsi)

161 154 eleven

well do not swallow

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 03:06 PM (aUQgu)

162 Only worry if the water turns brown and Hedora emerges.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 03:06 PM (wPxCh)

163 Tina Brown must be desperate to protect the Prophet Obama if she's reduced to letting Cali Cheetohs Man write an article

Only Meggie Mac's presence on her staff kept that from being the dumbest article they ever printed



Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 03:02 PM (/9IC1)


Is there any former respectable rag which Tina Brown's presence hasn't sent straight down the shitter? I think her record is longer than Dimaggio's.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 23, 2013 03:07 PM (x4gwG)

164 The pool at my complex has mysteriously gone from crystal clear blue to murky green.
------------------

Just keep telling yourself that those stories of flesh-eating bacteria are overblown.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:07 PM (aDwsi)

165 Ma Bell, I actually had no idea they were looking inadvertently grabbing all of my online information and phone calls , for later prosperity.
I did however know they would listen in on overseas Calls, Because they told us they would.

so yeah i am surprised and shocked my own country thinks I and everyone else is a possible terrorists or traitor.

I had hopes when that dhs b.s. list came out that , It was only for the New Overlords to strike us with fear, I never thought the Intelligence community would write that shit down and possibly use that to harm us.

now i don't know, that's now a problem, how many feel like me? not a lot of information but enough to feel threatened?

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:09 PM (nqBYe)

166 Gee, David, speaking of being a criminal - you know you are a felon, right?

Just because your pals covered for you and your illegal 30rd mag - you are still a felon.

Posted by: Wayne LaPierre at June 23, 2013 03:09 PM (EOJeZ)

167 are possible*

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:09 PM (nqBYe)

168 Oh I'm not going in til it turns back nice clear blue.


Too many kids and beer drinkers.


And beer drinking kids.

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 03:10 PM (fsLdt)

169 Tina Brown's .... record is longer than Dimaggio's.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 23, 2013 03:07 PM

More like Dillinger's

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 03:11 PM (MhA4j)

170 OT: Sonoma race started

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 03:11 PM (aUQgu)

171 now i don't know, that's now a problem, how many feel like me? not a lot of information but enough to feel threatened?


Posted by: willow
-----------------------

So far as I am concerned, there is NO personal information that should be *gathered* , much less *revealed* without a specific warrant for the person-of-interest.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:11 PM (aDwsi)

172 I knew someone who died from that shit. I know it's all too real.

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 03:12 PM (fsLdt)

173 Mike , I agree with you.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:12 PM (nqBYe)

174 willow, I feel violated. But I haven't trusted the gov't for a long time. Not suprised we are living in a commie nation now. I try to be positive, but it's getting more difficult.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 03:13 PM (SkhKv)

175 and why i personally do not like Greenwald's ideology, we know Gregory hangs out and is an Obama tool, Isn't it truly possible this threat comes from the WH through Gregory's mouth?

So it is a big fkn deal.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:14 PM (nqBYe)

176 Heh. It's 3:15..., clouding up outside..., Sunday afternoon. I feel a nap coming on...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:15 PM (aDwsi)

177 Think I will go pull some weeds in the garden and talk to the tomatoes. I have some orange ones I hope to eat by next weekend.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 03:15 PM (SkhKv)

178
So far as I am concerned, there is NO personal information that should be *gathered* , much less *revealed* without a specific warrant for the person-of-interest.

I liked the Congresscritter who held up his Verizon phone in the hearing the other day and asked someone, "Where is the warrant that permits my phone to be tapped?"

I don't think he got a straight answer. I'd like to know the same thing.

Where's the warrant? What's the probable cause? Why are you spying on little old me? Have you ever read the Fourth Amendment? If you have, do you understand what it means?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 03:15 PM (0HooB)

179 Is anybody else numb from constant streams of crap from DC?
.....now where's that drink

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 03:16 PM (aUQgu)

180 178 -- That about covers it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:17 PM (aDwsi)

181 Afternoon all. Just back from WWZ. Not a bad piece of entertainment. Would make some changes, but overall it was pretty good.

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 03:17 PM (8FeS+)

182 and that term used 'inadvertantly' cracks me up, Not!

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:17 PM (nqBYe)

183 Not sure if any of the congress critters have read the Constitution, and if they have, they don't follow it. Nor do they care as long as they get theirs.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 03:18 PM (SkhKv)

184 The government has revoked Snowden's passport now. But I guess he will not need it in Ecuador.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 03:18 PM (lZvxr)

185 Wait. Was there an accident before the race even started?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 03:18 PM (Gk3SS)

186 someday we should re-read the NDAA, In light of the broken trust .

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:19 PM (nqBYe)

187 Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:09 PM (nqBYe)

The "party line" concept that this is all for our own good, and the government apparatchiks have only the best of intentions scares the heck out of me!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at June 23, 2013 03:20 PM (Cnqmv)

188 Is it too early to start drinking tequila?

Posted by: Fritz at June 23, 2013 03:20 PM (G9Mmf)

189 Infidel, I believe that is why many progressives like to claim it is a living breathing document, so it can be 'managed properly'

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:20 PM (nqBYe)

190 Where's the warrant? What's the probable cause? Why
are you spying on little old me? Have you ever read the Fourth
Amendment? If you have, do you understand what it means?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 03:15 PM (0HooB)



Yeah. I would have kinda liked there to be a vote about repealing the Fourth Amendment. That would have been nice.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 03:20 PM (Gk3SS)

191 185 Bobby LaBonte's ride broke

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 03:21 PM (aUQgu)

192 I don't recall any of this "burn the journanlist traitor!11!" back when the NYT investigative reporters were revealing secrets about Bush's anti-terrorism tactics.
In fact former NYT editor has bragged about meeting with Bust at the White House and being asked to hold off on a story because it would damage national security.

Pretty sure these NYT reporters got a Pulitzer for their work, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2013 03:21 PM (AmWlQ)

193 I can think of 30 reasons why unprosecuted gun criminal David Gregory should be sitting in the D.C. Jail right now.

Posted by: Stu-22 at June 23, 2013 03:22 PM (k4bdL)

194
Not sure if any of the congress critters have read the Constitution, and if they have, they don't follow it. Nor do they care as long as they get theirs.

They don't even read the bills they vote on.

Another question: Where is SCOTUS on all this? How come no one up there is saying what they're doing is unconstitutional? If we lumpenproles can figure it out, why can't they?

All this silence from virtually everyone in DC is concerning. It's like a green light for every bit of this, despite its clear illegality.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 03:22 PM (0HooB)

195
Wait. Was there an accident before the race even started?


Posted by: alexthechick
--------------

I'm not watching, but a warm-up lap accident happens sometimes. A Turn One clusterfuck after the green flag is very common. Guys all hyped and adrenalined.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:22 PM (aDwsi)

196 I know I shouldn't judge by appearances but I will make an exception for David Gregory. He flat out looks like a shit with a face that would benefit from a curb stomping.
No offence.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 23, 2013 03:22 PM (WuYi+)

197 Laterz.........ZZZZZzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 03:24 PM (aDwsi)

198 Later 'rons and 'ettes. Havesome tomatoes and corn to attend to.

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 03:24 PM (SkhKv)

199 All involved should be in prison on charges of Aggravated Contemptible Douchiness in the First Degree. Or just get beaten with a stick. Whichever.

Posted by: Stu-22 at June 23, 2013 03:25 PM (k4bdL)

200 A face in need of a fist.



Backpfeifengesicht

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 03:25 PM (fsLdt)

201 Yeah. I would have kinda liked there to be a vote about repealing the Fourth Amendment. That would have been nice.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 03:20 PM (Gk3SS)

imagine a constitutional convention with this group in power

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 03:25 PM (nqBYe)

202 I'm recording the race so we can fast forward through the commercials. The Nationwide race yesterday was pretty good.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 03:26 PM (0HooB)

203 I Eaaaattttt your tomatos!!!!


I eat them up!!!

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 03:26 PM (fsLdt)

204 Our current crop of politicians (at least most of them) can't handle the directness and clarity of the Founding Founder's words. If there isn't a loop hole, waiver, or special exception per paragraph, it obviously won't make sense to a ruling class functionary. My conclusion is that RINOS ruling class establishment types may read the Constitution, but they cannot comprehend it, or act in accordance with its restrictions, because they are TOP.MEN and much smarter than the people. After all, look at the gravy train jobs environment that they have created for themselves, not you!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at June 23, 2013 03:28 PM (Cnqmv)

205
At this point every government who hates obambi will tweethe is flying to thier country. twat on

Posted by: Prefounder at June 23, 2013 03:28 PM (vdRcL)

206
Insert poat title here

And the rest of us wonder why David Gregory hasn't been charged with a crime. After all, there's video evidence.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 03:29 PM (0HooB)

207 When the NYT leaked Pentagon info in the '70's, they were heroes because they struck a blow against the eeevil non-Progressive Nixon and his eeevil warmongering.

When someone does that against the Progressive Obama and his justified monitoring and harassment of eeevil Tea Partiers, then they are the villains.

You are either an enthusiastic ally, or you are an enemy.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 03:29 PM (Vk2pI)

208 I've been trying to get up the energy to go mow the lawn, but it's not working. The beers in the fridge are calling me.

True, my lawn isn't trying to kill me, but it is Outside.

I mean, I could have a heart attack while mowing. Better safe than sorry, I say.

Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 03:29 PM (sdi6R)

209 188 Is it too early to start drinking tequila?
Posted by: Fritz at June 23, 2013 03:20 PM (G9Mmf)


Never too early for that!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at June 23, 2013 03:29 PM (Cnqmv)

210 Backpfeifengesicht
Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 03:25 PM (fsLdt)


Arsch mit Ohren

Posted by: Ma Bell at June 23, 2013 03:30 PM (RLdcX)

211
What kind of HOMO has two first names for a name.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at June 23, 2013 03:30 PM (jucos)

212 76 If I loathed the TFG administration for nothing else, it would be for making me have any type of grudging admiration for Greenwald. It has come to this.

brb committing seppuku
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 02:32 PM (Gk3SS)

THIS. Thinking pleasant thoughts about Gleen makes my face twitch. I try to say something like "I admire Greenwald's principled consistency" but it comes out as "I admire Greenwald's fleh. Flargh. Nurgle." I just can't speak the words.

Posted by: joncelli at June 23, 2013 03:30 PM (vh67+)

213 199 or both?

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 03:32 PM (MhA4j)

214 The only people who want Snowden prosecuted ar the media and the governmentBIRP.

And did anyone else giggle when they heard Snowden's passport was revoked?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 23, 2013 03:32 PM (T5H5e)

215 127
Billy Bob, no. Sometimes comment during the week. Mostly a lurker. Have been busy the past few weeks ....

Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 02:49 PM (SkhKv)


Well, you were missed.

Posted by: barney at June 23, 2013 03:33 PM (Cydud)

216 off damn sock

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at June 23, 2013 03:33 PM (Cydud)

217 A tourism advertising handout = Dean Heller's 30 pieces of silver

http://tinyurl.com/mscwhwh

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 03:49 PM (Vk2pI)

218 {All this silence from virtually everyone in DC is concerning. It's like a green light for every bit of this, despite its clear illegality.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 03:22 PM (0HooB)}

Because both parties have their fingerprints all over this. The Rs set it up under Bush and the Ds slammed down on the accelerator under Obama. It's been a decade long process of trampling the bill of rights into pieces and people on both sides have been cheering it on along the way. The only part that seems to be intact is the third amendment because they don't need to quarter troops in people's homes when they can just steal your money at will.

What has been so revealing and disturbing in all of this is the sheer number of people who seem to be just A-OK with it all, right and left, journalists, bloggers, regular citizens, because some 1 in 20 million threat that a terrorist might kill someone.

Seriously, can anyone remember what life in this country was like before 9-11?

The terrorists HAVE won.

Posted by: Lazarus at June 23, 2013 03:50 PM (q4ggw)

219 I mean, I could have a heart attack while mowing. Better safe than sorry, I say.

Posted by: rickl


I feel exactly the same way about winter (shoveling snow), and autumn (raking leaves). Spring and I are still on reasonably good terms.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 03:51 PM (6TB1Z)

220 216 BB
nice hash (Cydud)
See Ya Dude

Posted by: seamrog at June 23, 2013 03:52 PM (JjGgb)

221 Almost thought I had to get up and do something constructive there for a minute.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 03:52 PM (Fz2C7)

222 I feel exactly the same way about winter (shoveling
snow), and autumn (raking leaves). Spring and I are still on reasonably
good terms.


Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 03:51 PM (6TB1Z)



Outside will kill you. This is why I try not to go Outside unless I must.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 03:53 PM (Gk3SS)

223 I'm going to an outdoor wedding at 6. It's muggy and high Eighties now, hoping it cools off with no rain. I much prefer outdoor events (because cigars), but there's a lot to be said for AC in summertime North Carolina.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 23, 2013 03:54 PM (ZshNr)

224 from the sidebar....

Peggy darling your boyfriend suppressed the Tea Party sugarbumps and establishment GOPers like you shit on us....

when your wing of the party takes a good healthy shit on the GOP working poor with amnesty I want you to know I'll need to see a doctor from the raging hard on I'll have voting against you fucks....

straight ticket D Peg....

b/c you convinced me Palin is an idiot and I already know SCOAMF is a retard....

of course you were stupid enough to not attack him in 08 so what's that make you hun?

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

225
Hitler had his Gestapo.

Obama has his media Goofstapo.

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 03:55 PM (GcwH1)

226 Mowed the lawn early-ish 8 a.m. Was already about 75
degrees, and humid. Much perspiring.

Time to re-hydrate. cold beer.

Posted by: seamrog at June 23, 2013 03:55 PM (JjGgb)

227 222 AlexTheChick,

AtC outside is an honorable nation er uh perhaps not our uh friend but in the uh spirit of moderation we must make ah peace.....

//SCOAMF

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 03:56 PM (LRFds)

228 225 soothsayer,

the Goofstapo and Heinrich Schumer are about to kill the country with the help of the Vichy GOP

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 03:57 PM (LRFds)

229 224 this *nodding poor ole head*

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 03:58 PM (aUQgu)

230 Husband finally got his gun after 85 days in what's supposed to be a 7 day waiting period, And this is what we get.

http://tinyurl.com/kdbmuxw

Gotta love Maryland.

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 03:59 PM (0n1+D)

231 Killing the country?


“This Tuesday, I’ll lay out my vision for where I believe we need to go — a national plan to reduce carbon pollution, prepare our country for the impacts of climate change, and lead global efforts to fight it,” the president said. “This is a serious challenge — but it’s one uniquely suited to America’s strengths.”


Can the horde put to me some gnawlidge?

What are Americas strengths these days?

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:00 PM (8FeS+)

232
The terrorists HAVE won.

Yup, it sure looks that way, given that we (Average Americans) are under surveillance for no good reason and mosques are not even looked at.

At least we can't say we weren't warned. TFG did say he'd side with his muzbuds if it came down to it.

We are so terribly fucked.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 23, 2013 04:00 PM (0HooB)

233 Yep its the Peoples Republic of Maryland - Not Disapproved.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 04:00 PM (wPxCh)

234 Just reading this article makes me want to hang onto my desk for dear life:

http://tinyurl.com/n2pcak4

Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 04:01 PM (sdi6R)

235 Gotta love Maryland.

*****

Because..?

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 04:01 PM (MhA4j)

236 Gregory certainly believes in a journalist's right to possess hi capacity magazines and not be prosecuted for it.

Posted by: chas at June 23, 2013 04:02 PM (t05mB)

237 "It's all Snowden, all the time."

I think it's pretty fucking hilarious that this 20-something high school dropout who was dating a stripper is outrunning the feds better than Marc Rich, and every day it's a new story like "US govt revokes Snowden's passport." Keystone Cops lol.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 23, 2013 04:02 PM (AVaK2)

238 Everybody's favorite communist, Nelson Mandela, appears close to kicking the bucket.

Way to go Mandela, you courageously defeated a white racist capitalist government and replaced it with a black racist communist govt.

You fought white racism and embraced the most murderous ideology, communism, in the history of humanity.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 04:02 PM (ZPrif)

239 231 RWC,

Hotair generation....

he's a regular blast furnace and a fucking retard

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:02 PM (LRFds)

240 Did you go to the link?

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 04:03 PM (0n1+D)

241 What are Americas strengths these days?

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:00 PM (8FeS+)


The manufacture and wearing of clown noses.

Posted by: Tami at June 23, 2013 04:03 PM (X6akg)

242 232 Backwards Boy,

ironically SCOAMF's special treatment for them means that when they do score another touchdown backlash is a lot more likely....

deservedly so IMHO

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:04 PM (LRFds)

243 Spypeach,

Wait, WTF, what??? I don't get it? What does that even mean? I'm from Texas, no comprendo???

Posted by: lindafell at June 23, 2013 04:04 PM (PGO8C)

244
Gotta love Maryland.

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 03:59 PM (0n1+D)

Love MDs low crime rate.


Oh, wait.

"As we tried to research this issue, we discovered other alarming findings: 1) MPD only reports crime data on 9 specific offenses out of approximately 150 or so offense types, all others are intentionally hidden from the public, and 2) MPD may be under or misreporting the crimes to the public, and possibly in its annual FBI crime statistics."


- they were looking into an assault on a cyclist by 15 yoots that wasn't reported.

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:05 PM (8FeS+)

245 George Orwell wonders why David Gregory isn't charged with a crime, viz., possession of a banned high capacity assault rifle magazine.

Posted by: George Orwell what enjoys going to the feelies at June 23, 2013 04:05 PM (xw77v)

246 David Gregory is aiding and abetting ignorance.

Posted by: Craig Poe at June 23, 2013 04:05 PM (BVkEs)

247 243 lindafell,

it means I think translated from the Fucktard NE Moonbat "you got it..."


Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:05 PM (LRFds)

248 The Peoples Republic of Maryland's default setting for weapons licenses is Disapproved. They lack an Approved stamp. So they pair Not with Disapproved, thus employing a double negative to say Yes.

May their offices get overrun with spiders.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 04:06 PM (wPxCh)

249 OT If you need a laugh go to Sooper Mexican and watch the parody of Hank Johnson taking the Snap Challenge. I LOLed

Posted by: t-dubya-d at June 23, 2013 04:07 PM (u6lBN)

250 Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 03:59 PM (0n1+D)


Lol. Congrats, i think.

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:07 PM (8FeS+)

251 This from a man that was not prosecuted for committing an actual, um, felony. The IRONY may not burn, but the stupid should.

Posted by: Gulermo at June 23, 2013 04:07 PM (LaLuv)

252 Lindafell,

We have no idea, seriously WTF is that.. I guess that means fuck you we don't like it but we still have to give you your gun you stupid white redneck.

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 04:07 PM (0n1+D)

253 252 spypeach,

pretty much....

they're afraid if they make an "approved" stamp it'll get used too often...

Maryland is a funny place...

beautiful...some really nice folk...and purposely self-hamstrung...

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:09 PM (LRFds)

254 he's a regular blast furnace and a fucking retard
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:02 PM (LRFds)

Can't wait until the paticulars of his awesome plan are known.



The manufacture and wearing of clown noses.
Posted by: Tami at June 23, 2013 04:03 PM (X6akg)

Wearing, si. Manufacturer, no.

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:09 PM (8FeS+)

255
Husband finally got his gun after 85 days in what's supposed to be a 7 day waiting period, And this is what we get.



http://tinyurl.com/kdbmuxw



Gotta love Maryland.

Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 03:59 PM (0n1+D)

Holy crap, spypeach!! I had a 10-day wait and went and picked up my darlin' fluffy. Didn't get anything from the state. That "Not Disapproved" is hilarious! I bet California wishes they'd thought of it first, lol.

Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2013 04:09 PM (8lmkt)

256 Seen on twitter:



http://tinyurl.com/lv6kstp

Posted by: Tami at June 23, 2013 04:10 PM (X6akg)

257 254
The manufacture and wearing of clown noses.
Posted by: Tami at June 23, 2013 04:03 PM (X6akg)

Wearing, si. Manufacturer, no.
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:09 PM (8FeS+)


That's what China is for.

Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 04:11 PM (sdi6R)

258 255 Peaches,

Peaches you using .38 Semi-Wadcutters ma'am?

I know a bit about .38s

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:11 PM (LRFds)

259 Yeah, I remember when Greenwald was a proud lapdog of the Congressional Democrats ("I had my work read on the Senate floor!"). I don't know what changed, either.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 04:12 PM (QTHTd)

260 145 The pool at my complex has mysteriously gone from crystal clear blue to murky green.


How can that be?
Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2013 02:59 PM (fsLdt)

Landlord is skimping on cleaning and chlorine. Tell him that the city/county/borough/township/[insert local government here] might be interested in why it looks so green. He'll pry open the wallet.

Posted by: joncelli at June 23, 2013 04:13 PM (vh67+)

261 Wearing, si. Manufacturer, no.

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:09 PM (8FeS+)


I was about to take manufacture out of my post....but the dog started barking to come in so I just hit post.

Posted by: Tami at June 23, 2013 04:13 PM (X6akg)

262 >>>>What are America's strengths these days?

Uuh, we love Mexicans so much that we're about to import 30 million of them?

Posted by: L, elle at June 23, 2013 04:13 PM (0PiQ4)

263 My sisters both live in MD. The one is married to a prof at UMd, and works at USDA herself, so I suppose there is a commute time argument there, although for some reason they bought in Univ. Park, immediately adjacent to some seriously dangerous neighborhoods. The local schools stink on ice, of course, so they've paid private school tuitions since middle school. She's a moderate Republican, but he's a true lib. They pay ungodly taxes and get defecated upon by the local governments, because, Caucasian.

The other lives in Annapolis, and has discovered that the local schools lack, shall we say, rigor and discipline, and so started with private school tuition from KGarten. They're both Republicans but again chose to live there.

I just don't get why they do this to themselves.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2013 04:15 PM (6TB1Z)

264 Alternate Title for this thread:

Glenn Greenwald Wonders Why David Gregory Shouldn't Be Violated With a Garden Hoe

Posted by: Kaisersoze at June 23, 2013 04:16 PM (mUY87)

265 Yeah, green isn't that bad. When the pool gets a mustard or black looking funk going, you're in for an expensive clean up.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 23, 2013 04:16 PM (ZshNr)

266 Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 04:01 PM (sdi6R)

****

I had a Vietnam refugee working for me and he came in one morning very upset. He asked me if there were such things as Dak Deebles. The fear in his face was unmistakeable and all I could get out of him was agitated inquiry about there being actual Dak Deebles.
Finally another guy came in who spoke better English and after questioning him a moment explained he saw a show about Dare Devils the night before and wanted to know if it was real.
I knew the show in question, Motorcycle guys with full face helmets painted like demons and skulls etc. who were doing stunts and jumps through burning hoops etc. I told him it was real and he lost his shit right there. Screaming and wailing. The poor guy thought they were real "Devils" and didn't understand the stunt thing. He was sure they were coming for him because his POS B.I.L. told him they were. He wanted confirmation from someone he trusted completely and when I did that...well...
So after much explanation that it was just a name we white eyes give to people who do these dangerous stunts he was very relieved. He put a fish in B.I.L.'s truck heater core box.

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 04:18 PM (MhA4j)

267 I seem to remember that back when President Bush referred to Adam Clymer of the New York Times as a major league asshole in front of an open mike, other journalists reacted by saying they were surprised Bush disparaged Clymer when David Gregory is a much bigger asshole.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 23, 2013 04:19 PM (31Nrp)

268 Yeah, I remember when Greenwald was a proud lapdog
of the Congressional Democrats ("I had my work read on the Senate
floor!"). I don't know what changed, either.


Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 04:12 PM (QTHTd)



*sets up IV line of Val U Rite directly into jugular* Nothing has changed. Greenwald has been consistent on this issue since the first version of the Patriot Act passed. *sets up additional IV of tequila*



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 04:22 PM (Gk3SS)

269 David Gregory should be tried in The Hague.

Posted by: Craig Poe at June 23, 2013 04:22 PM (BVkEs)

270 Well, your first problem is giving a fuck what reporters think.

Posted by: Auntie M at June 23, 2013 04:23 PM (B/weO)

271 He put a fish in B.I.L.'s truck heater core box.

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 04:18 PM (MhA4j)



That. Is. Perfect.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 04:23 PM (Gk3SS)

272 That. Is. Perfect.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away.

Never screw with a skilled mechanic.

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 04:24 PM (MhA4j)

273 For that fresh broiled fish smell....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 04:24 PM (wPxCh)

274
262
>>>>What are America's strengths these days?



Uuh, we love Mexicans so much that we're about to import 30 million of them?
---------------------
How many will be muzzers from God knows where?

Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 04:25 PM (aUQgu)

275 This David Gregory guy. He's a bit of dick, isn't he?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 23, 2013 04:26 PM (I2uSp)

276 275 CJ Burch,

"How ya doing Dwave Gergory?"

//Bawney Fwank

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:28 PM (LRFds)

277 Landlord is skimping on cleaning and chlorine. Tell him that the city/county/borough/township/[insert local government here] might be interested in why it looks so green. He'll pry open the wallet.
Posted by: joncelli at June 23, 2013 04:13 PM (vh67+)

Pool places (most pool places) analyze water samples for free and print out the results.

Official looking paperwork usually lights a fire under asses.

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:28 PM (8FeS+)

278 David Gregory and Glenn Greenwald are both shitbags.

Posted by: Crazy Bald Guy at June 23, 2013 04:28 PM (fUROf)

279 I put a fish in a asshole manager's ceiling years ago. Took a few days before it really started getting ripe.

An errant fish is an incredibly effective way to induce extreme paranoia and subsequent erratic behavior in a mark...thus starting their downward spiral of self-fulfilling prophesies leading to destruction.

Posted by: Purp at June 23, 2013 04:28 PM (vaPEU)

280 Wow. I have almost earned a crumb of respect for Glenn Greenwald for not hauling off and punching the White Ape known as David Gregory.

Yo, DG - you should be throwing stones about criminal charges for investigative journalism, you jackass. Or did you think we've forgotten your brandishing that illegal magazine a few months back?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 23, 2013 04:29 PM (CA2NO)

281 Greenwald is a journalist, David Gregory is just a White House spokesperson, as is most of the NBC crowd. Gregory is no longer a journalist, he has been throwing away his credentials every time he parrots the White House talking points.

Posted by: doug at June 23, 2013 04:30 PM (uJ8q7)

282 *puts the sunglasses on*

You have to be Super Fly to wear these
http://www.shoebuy.com/gola-superfly/434865/926717

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 04:30 PM (wPxCh)

283 Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2013 04:09 PM (8lmkt)


You folks are in the wrong State. I can walk into a gun shop here, plop down money, and walk out with any gun I want. I just can't buy more than 3 in a month.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2013 04:31 PM (lZvxr)

284 David Fucking Gregory, unindicted felon, has the BALLS to wonder that?

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: acethepug at June 23, 2013 04:32 PM (T4wxI)

285 "I think the difference is that Russert liked politics. He enjoyed the rough and tumble world and liked stirring it up to get at the truth."

And then he used all that bullshit capital to foist Juggy McFuckstain on America. Hope Russert is on a slightly higher spit than pig Kennedy.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 23, 2013 04:32 PM (AVaK2)

286 Huffpo and Shuster slamming him? It's come to this.

Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2013 04:32 PM (EAgmr)

287 283 Vic,

Heh Ohio, Indiana, Louisiana, Texas....a lot of places are similar...

I don't think there's a 3 gun limit back home...

I'm fighting the urge to buy a 5" Rhino at gunbroker right now actually as my open carry piece...

under the reserve and I need to see if Ms 10077 is game....

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:33 PM (LRFds)

288 Peaches you using .38 Semi-Wadcutters ma'am?

I know a bit about .38s


Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:11 PM (LRFds)

Just got the .38 specials, they're having trouble getting .357 and .38 hollowpoints (is that a Semi-Wadcutter??). And, sadly, fluffy is still a virgin, sitting unloaded in a secure location. I haven't even put the snap caps in yet and done any dry firing. Life is a little crazy/hectic at the moment.

Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2013 04:34 PM (8lmkt)

289 284 AceThePug,

Indeed ATP indeed...

use Gergory as fuel for Tedster and Mario Andretti out there in LA...

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:34 PM (LRFds)

290 Posted by: Purp at June 23, 2013 04:28 PM (vaPEU)

I did something similar to an old roommate. I got a can of popcorn shrimp and stuffed them in the hem of the curtains that hung behind the couch.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 23, 2013 04:34 PM (AVaK2)

291 David Gregory?

Why oh why internet? Why do I never learn.


http://tinyurl.com/6vkmvh7
(SFW)

Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 04:34 PM (8FeS+)

292
279
I put a fish in a asshole manager's ceiling years ago. Took a few days before it really started getting ripe.

An errant fish is an incredibly effective way to
induce extreme paranoia and subsequent erratic behavior in a mark...thus
starting their downward spiral of self-fulfilling prophesies leading to
destruction.


Posted by: Purp at June 23, 2013 04:28 PM (vaPEU)

So, is this better than Marbles in the overhead, or should I go with a Fulminate of Mercury firecracker?

Posted by: Ensign Pulver at June 23, 2013 04:35 PM (ylG8S)

293 Dead fish ideas thread up.

Posted by: Purp at June 23, 2013 04:37 PM (vaPEU)

294 Wait, Dave, you have the audacity to call Glenn Greenwald a criminal when you broke DC gun laws live on air?

Hypocrite.

Posted by: Predictable History at June 23, 2013 04:38 PM (B3S2w)

295
He put a fish in B.I.L.'s truck heater core box.
A reliable source informs me that two medium sized shrimp work better and are more difficult to locate. Not that I would know.

Posted by: Gulermo at June 23, 2013 04:40 PM (LaLuv)

296 266
So after much explanation that it was just a name we white eyes give to people who do these dangerous stunts he was very relieved. He put a fish in B.I.L.'s truck heater core box.
Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 04:18 PM (MhA4j)


Heh.

FWIW, I saw Karl Wallenda walk across Veterans Stadium between games of a Phillies doubleheader back around 1975 or 76.

I didn't think I could my breath for 20 minutes, but I believe I did.

Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 04:43 PM (sdi6R)

297 I'm not as pro-journalist as you guys are. Why is passing on stolen information any different from passing on stolen watches? I also don't think "journalists" are any fucking different from you or me, legally. They are simply fuckwads out there who get leakers to leak to them.

BUT, that this idea suddenly comes from a so-called journalist himself, after years and decades of leaking, from the Pentagon Papers to the "Torture Memos", all cheerfully reported on by the NYT and shit-heads like Gregory, just when it defends the President-Who-Shall-Be-Protected, is too much. It is selective prosecution to the n-th degree. And already after Rosen at Fox.

Journalists prosecuted under 1917 Espionage Act by Obama: 7.
By all other presidents combined: 3.
(None of the prosecutions were successful, so far. At least I think those are the numbers.)

Posted by: Randall Hoven at June 23, 2013 04:45 PM (YxJKp)

298 288 Peaches,

Hollowpoints are a little different than Wadcutters.

In a short pistol cops found the wadcutter was more effective.

Practice and safe shooting

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 04:47 PM (LRFds)

299 David Gregory sucks!

Posted by: One BLT to go! at June 23, 2013 04:50 PM (Oi60j)

300 @297 Good points.

The "rights" people think they are preserving for Rolling Stone and the Washington Post apply to "journalists" from Al Jazeera and ITAR-Tass. Sooner or later they're going to get slapped in the face with that.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 23, 2013 04:51 PM (TbVAj)

301 We're charging Snowden with espionage.

No, you can't know why.

Posted by: The Gubmint at June 23, 2013 04:51 PM (MeVdV)

302 Proving yet again - Why do you need thirty round magazines?

A: Because people like David Gregory are in positions of power and influence.

Posted by: Obamao at June 23, 2013 04:53 PM (e+pdj)

303 Well, that makes it petty obvious, Gregory was not prosecuted so he would become a government lapdog.

Or he wasn't prosecuted because he was already a government lapdog.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at June 23, 2013 04:56 PM (qyfb5)

304 I think it's pretty fucking hilarious that this 20-something high school dropout who was dating a stripper is outrunning the feds better than Marc Rich, and every day it's a new story like "US govt revokes Snowden's passport." Keystone Cops lol.
-----------------------------------------

Kind of gives credence to the rumors he is getting big time help from someone or some "thing".

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2013 04:56 PM (2IQGd)

305 Anything that damages my administration, my legacy or me, is by definition treason. Oh, and any other reason I make up, if needed.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 23, 2013 04:59 PM (gWHwW)

306 Kind of gives credence to the rumors he is getting big time help from someone or some "thing".

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2013 04:56 PM (2IQGd)


Or it's all a big squirrel.

I was listing the options to someone on the phone and they said "But why would Obama want a leaker running around damaging the reputation and operations of the US? Ohhhhhhh, never mind."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at June 23, 2013 05:08 PM (qyfb5)

307 306 Mero,

Undermine(properly IMHO NSA doing this is horseshit) Public confidence in the US govt and agitating the rightwing(ideally into violence)

Piss off/justify new cold wars at the same time Bark is disarming our nuclear arsenal if he gets his way

Undermining the US' moral authority...

Snowden is a Bambi backer...


Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 05:10 PM (LRFds)

308 Whatever his intentions, Snowy the Snowball is distracting from more than adding to the investigation and public knowledge.

I think he's riling up the fringe and splitting the middle, all while providing more rumor than fact.

Also he chose marxists and leftists to be his go-betweens, which is at least suspicious - not sure if they're punking or being punked at the moment.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at June 23, 2013 05:15 PM (qyfb5)

309 Also, why does no one ever use the proper full title, David "Unindicted Felon" Gregory?

We need to be pounding these asshole leftist journalist-advocates, not deferring to them. It's like we *want* to lose.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at June 23, 2013 05:16 PM (qyfb5)

310 effective way to induce extreme paranoia and subsequent erratic behavior in a mark...
thus starting their downward spiral of self-fulfilling prophesies leading to destruction.

Posted by: Purp

Sooo....CIA then. eh?

Posted by: Beto at June 23, 2013 05:18 PM (MhA4j)

311 Merovign,

That's a good point, if someone wanted to create chaos and paranoia this type of information is perfect .

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 05:26 PM (nqBYe)

312 help create*

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 05:26 PM (nqBYe)

313 Gregory is a servant of the System.

He feeds it and it feeds him.

We are led by braying beasts.

Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 05:29 PM (AO9UG)

314 regardless of that, I'm still angry -disillusioned that they spy on average joe.
still angry they really do believe american citizens have no rights, while they make up shitty ass rights for everything else out of whole cloth. (BC!, Abortion! rights of non citizens to be specialized new citizens etc.
still angry at that stupid ass dhs list . How fkn sick is that?
and they have done the job of losing the previous respect i had for their jobs.

Posted by: willow at June 23, 2013 05:30 PM (nqBYe)

315 David Gregory should be charged with the crime of being a douchebag while impersonating an asshole. Or is it the other way around. Whatever--Gregory should just put a sock in it.

Posted by: Cynical Ol Geezer at June 23, 2013 05:33 PM (RZP0w)

316 Of course, willow. We have basically been occupied by a (philosophically) foreign power that has set up camp throughout our government and issued edicts overriding our principle of government and civil rights.

It is the worst its ever been, if only because the current office-holders have so much more power and money than past abusers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at June 23, 2013 05:42 PM (qyfb5)

317 Gregory and Greenwald are unamerican idots. The pox on both of them.

Posted by: El Gordo at June 23, 2013 05:52 PM (zHSUj)

318 Greenwald is gay. Gay bashing I think. Could be a hate crime. Homophobia? Gays can't be that smart? Some gay guy got the scoop I should have had?

Posted by: Scott Lassiter at June 23, 2013 06:09 PM (8goJI)

319 259 Yeah, I remember when Greenwald was a proud lapdog of the Congressional Democrats ("I had my work read on the Senate floor!"). I don't know what changed, either.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 04:12 PM (QTHTd)


That's pretty easy. Greenwald has dared to stand up more for the supposed liberal principles instead of simply keeping the liberals in power and control. This is an inverse of conservatives who get shit on when they take a salt and to keep their status and power at the expense of their principles.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 23, 2013 06:13 PM (zeGKL)

320 319 Buzzion,

Correct....

I hate a lot about him but he is as busy trying to hold the mule moonbats accountable as we held Bush....

Plan B Buzz...Plan B

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:55 PM (LRFds)

321 If Greenwald had been on his game today he would have chosen that moment to whip out an AK magazine and challenged Gregory to a journalism-as-crime contest.

Posted by: MTF at June 23, 2013 07:02 PM (wXcOC)

322 Shark. Jumped.

Posted by: Edward R. Murrow at June 23, 2013 07:04 PM (wXcOC)

323 The guy at hillbuzz has two articles that you should see

Today in History: June 23rd, 2013 Open Threadhttp://tinyurl.com/kdl74q5

10 Stupid Things Conservatives Do Every Day That Democrats LOVEhttp://tinyurl.com/lmne826

I ran across them today and he almost seems to be channeling Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: caustic at June 23, 2013 07:31 PM (/b8+5)

324 [quote] If you want to embrace that theory, it means that every investigative
journalist in the United States who works with their sources, who
receives classified information, is a criminal.[/quote]

According to what the DOJ published of Rosen's email to Kim, he "worked with his source" by giving the source a list of what the source should steal, and hand over, so Rosen could undermine US policy in Korea. I'm ok with calling such masterminds of espionage, criminals.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 23, 2013 07:41 PM (TbVAj)

325

Judith Miller Goes to Jail
Published: July 7, 2005


http://tinyurl.com/mcov5cm

Perhaps this was more of a pivotal moment for journalism. I remember her sort of hanging out there on her own. Maybe ther journalists should have raised holy hell at that time and journalism would not be where it is today.



Posted by: caustic at June 23, 2013 08:55 PM (/b8+5)

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