Obama Scandal Scorecard

Well, this all escalated quickly.

In case you’re having trouble keeping up here’s a quick rundown of the scandals engulfing the beleaguered Obama administration. I’ve put them in order of what I think is their seriousness.

1) Obama Sics IRS On Conservatives and Jews

You heard about the Jewish angle, right?

This is the most serious of scandals because it’s an abuse of power that clearly crossing any concept of decency and legality. The idea of using one of the most powerful domestic agencies to deter political activities is such a clear abuse of power, it was once included in an Article of Impeachment.

It’s also the easiest scandal to explain to people. The first reaction of many idiots, er, low information voters is, “they all do it”. Well, they don’t and people know this because unless you’re a left wing loon, everyone hates/fears the IRS. Even idiots, er, low information voters, would remember if this type of police state activity were “business as usual”.

It’s also damning because the scandal has blown up from “some idiots in Cincinnati” to “top officials in DC” and from “giving some groups a hard time” to “illegally sharing information with liberal activists groups”.

One thing to keep in mind…liberals keep saying that the IRS is in a tough spot with enforcing the rules as written. Bull. Nothing about the “rules” made them focus only on political opponents of the administration or leak confidential documents to leftwing groups. Don’t buy the spin.

2) Obama’s Health And Human Services Secretary Is Extorting Money From HealthCare Industry To Support ObamaCare

This is a little bit of a dark horse but I think it ranks higher than most people seem to at the moment.

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is hitting up companies she has tremendous control over in order to circumvent the will of Congress.

Sure some of these companies are willing co-conspirators because contrary to the image Obama is trying to portray, ObamaCare is a boon for health insurance companies. But there are other health care stakeholders, like hospitals and medical device manufacturers who aren’t as fond of ObamaCare but might be able to trade of a few bucks for a favorable waiver or ruling from…Kathleen Sebelius.

The Obama administration says they need the money because Congress won’t give them more. Well…tough. Inaction is a policy choice as much as action is. Congress doesn’t want HHS to have money to do certain things. That’s not something Obama gets to decide to ignore by selling government favors for private money.

3) Super-Scandal Obama

I making this one up because Obama ‘s IRS and HHS scandals are connected through ObamaCare. Like Super Storm Sandy was a big storm that combined with other elements (location, tides, etc0 to magnify it’s effects, the nexus of the IRS and ObamaCare mean that when these two scandals interact, they have more power than either alone.

ObamaCare is still unpopular, well over budget and pretty much doomed to failure. Add in a corrupt and political active IRS getting involved in people’s health care and (at least the appearance) of HHS selling ObamaCare indulgences, you have a powerful Super Scandal that a smart opposition party could use to do real damage to ObamaCare.

4) Benghazi Cover-Up

I know it’s odd to push this one so far down the list since it has a body count but ultimately, Benghazi is a political scandal that lacks the legal jeopardy of the IRS and HHS scandals.

To me the biggest issues in Benghazi are:

A-The incompetence of not only failing to increase protection for our facility (despite numerous requests from those on the ground) as the security environment deteriorated during the summer of 2012 but the positive decision to reduce security assets available.

B-The “Talking Points” cover-up. Four Americans died not because of what the military did or didn’t do that night but because Hillary Clinton refused to properly manage her department in the months leading up to that night. She then had her hatchet woman ensure that the public was lied to about the information she had available to her in making those decisions.

Worst of all, she sold out a key concept of America…freedom of speech. She did this by knowingly lying about the role a “Youtube video” in the attack. By throwing an American’s right to produce and disseminate political thought, she took the tyrants way out to save her ass.

C-The lack of foresight by policy makers to have assets on standby on the anniversary of 9/11 is unforgivable. Why was the EuroCom special ops force on a training mission in Croatia and not on a heightened state of alert at a base more conducive to covering a known hot spot like North Africa? Could no one in the White House or the Pentagon look at a calendar, read the news and put 2 and 2 together?

Clinton’s actions clearly render her unfit for the Presidency and Obama should be held to account for the actions of his handpicked Secretary of State and for not ensuring that the Department of Defense was ready to go.

All of that said, Benghazi as bad a failure as it was, is a political scandal lacking the abuse of law the other two have.

5) AP Phone Records

Honestly at this point I’m not even sure it’s a scandal. There’s no doubt that someone leaked the interception of a new type of “underwear bomb” to the AP. James Brennan may have made things worse (we don’t know for sure) by telling selected commentators that we had an inside man on the job but that was secondary to the leaking of the operation itself (which was plenty damaging alone).

Why the administration should not investigate who the source of the leak to the AP was is beyond me. I want people who are sworn to keep sensitive secrets to keep them.

There’s been a lot of claims the administration “spied” on the AP or that they “bugged” them but that’s not the claim the AP makes. They said their phone records were accessed (probably via subpoenas) . Well, investigators issue subpoenas for such records every day. The First Amendment protects the rights of news organizations to publish material; it’s not a blanket exemption from all laws.

Keep in mind, it doesn’t appear that the AP is the subject of the investigation. What the DoJ knows is someone leaked information to the AP. The number of people who had access to that information may be relatively large but it’s not infinite. By taking the AP’s phone records and matching them to the list of people who called them with the list of people who had access to the information, you can develop a universe of potential suspects.

The AP says it’s a “roadmap” to their reporting operations. I’m more worried about people who leak a “road map” to intelligence operations.

Politically this could be a loser. People tend to not like the press and they do like catching terrorists. When people find out this is about getting to the bottom of who leaked damaging national security information to the press, I think most people we say, “go get the bastards”.

One caveat…we know this administration is power hungry and doesn’t recognize any legal or traditional limits on its powers. Might they have abused the information they gathered? Obviously. So this could turn out to be a bigger deal. But based on what we know now, it’s only a big deal because the press loves to protect themselves and their assumed privileges more than anything. Even more than they love Obama.


Dishonorable mentions:
Fast and Furious/Pigford

They should be bigger deals but for various reasons they simply aren’t.

Maybe now the floodgates are breaking open these two scandals will get a second look.

Posted by: DrewM. at 10:19 AM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:23 AM (/PCJa)

2 Scandals?

What Scandals, we see nothing.

Posted by: NY Slime Editors at May 14, 2013 10:24 AM (wR+pz)

3 When you've lost Andrea Mitchell...

IMPEACH!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 10:26 AM (lVPtV)

4 Not a scandal? Yeah, well fuck you too, Mr. Rightwing Blogger. It's different when it's OUR ox getting gored.

Posted by: Associated Press at May 14, 2013 10:26 AM (Q9qpj)

5 I know it’s odd to push this one so far down the list since it has a body count but ultimately, Benghazi is a political scandal that lacks the legal jeopardy of the IRS and HHS scandals.

The Benghazi *cover-up* may only be political, but the whole Bengahzi attack should have ended Barack Obama's career immediately.

Imagine if a General had simply refused to take his Army into battle because he "didn't know how long [a conflict] would last." At the very least he'd be removed from duty. In extreme cases (say, where a US Ambassador was murdered and (quite likely) sodomized), he'd probably receive further disciplinary action. In even more extreme cases (say, where he then claimed that the enemy responsible for the attack was not the enemy, thus providing them "aid and comfort"), he'd be dishonorably discharged, at minimum.

Barack Obama sided with Islamic Terrorists over the US Ambassador to Libya. At the bare minimum that should have seen him impeached.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:27 AM (/PCJa)

6 Damn, I really am just a local news story...

Posted by: Chechen-Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at May 14, 2013 10:27 AM (FcR7P)

7 I agree with you on the substance of the AP phone records, but I think it may have legs as a political issue among the LIVs : "Look, Obama is spying on the press just like Nixon did !!!111!1"

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 14, 2013 10:28 AM (RJ+Yj)

8 Drudge editor Joseph Curl: ‘CIA source says still one more shoe to drop’ for Obama administration.

Posted by: USA at May 14, 2013 10:28 AM (VIaw0)

9 I want Benghazi to be the big one because 1) People died, and 2) it's about the future--specifically, the future of President Hillary Clinton. The millstone must be wound tightly around her neck.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2013 10:28 AM (DuH+r)

10 You'll have to keep this thread active and move it to the top each time a new one hits Drew.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2013 10:28 AM (53z96)

11
Fast & Furious

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:29 AM (XYSwB)

12 6) And by failing on Gun Control, he looses his base.

Posted by: Michael Moore's Boobs at May 14, 2013 10:29 AM (rCS6C)

13
Tweet from Bette Midler:

I LOVE THE IRS!!! HOW CAN A POLITICAL ORGANIZATION BE CALLED A NON-PROFIT THAT PROMOTES GENERAL WELFARE??

I think the all capitals adds that certain je ne sais quoi.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 14, 2013 10:29 AM (XUKZU)

14 Dishonorable mentions:
Fast and Furious/Pigford
"They should be bigger deals but for various reasons they simply aren’t."

That whole Birth Certificate kerfuffle ain't looking quite so tinfoiley now, amirite?

Posted by: Jaws at May 14, 2013 10:29 AM (4I3Uo)

15 A Scandal Cascade?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 14, 2013 10:30 AM (uIz7u)

16 I am disappointed I didn't hear Rush or Quinn mention the IRS Jewish angle... Drudge has it on his page, but not very prominent. There is something viscerally disgusting about that. Now comes word he went after pro-life groups too: https://www.thomasmoresociety.org/2011/04/12/christian-voices-for-life/

Posted by: Baldy at May 14, 2013 10:30 AM (tyDFN)

17 8
Drudge editor Joseph Curl: ‘CIA source says still one more shoe to drop’ for Obama administration.




The CIA will not be silent under Barry's bus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 10:30 AM (lVPtV)

18 Some points on Benghazi:

1. The lies are quite possibly to cover up 'gunrunning' in form of trafficking weapons through Turkey into Syria.
2. Obama is continually lying about his statements in the immediate aftermath in which he called this 'an act of terror' not 'a terrorist act' which is quite a different thing.
3. There is the added complicity by Candy Crowley in 'covering' for Obama by her comment upholding (falsely) Obama's comments in the Romney/Obama debate she 'moderated'

Posted by: onlyme at May 14, 2013 10:31 AM (J4kQ3)

19 A Scandal Cascade?

Are you not entertained?

Posted by: Maximus Scandalous Cascadius at May 14, 2013 10:31 AM (BrQrN)

20 Anyone ever read about those naval mishaps over the years, in which, say, a sub rams a small boat while surfacing? The captain tends to get relieved, kind of instantly.

What's always interested me is that the bio of the captain is generally one of superb competence and judgment for twenty years. Often he could have had no reasonable way to prevent the mishap. Wasn't him steering the ship; he couldn't have known the critical error a subordinate was about to make, not in time to forestall it.

But he gets relieved anyway. Sometimes it's a pity but that's the way it has to be. Because if nothing else, it's his responsibility to create systems, and a command climate, in which these things do not happen, ever.

The contrast with our government in modern days is striking. Just once I'd like to see someone resign, unsolicited: "I let you all down and it's time for someone else to take charge here." Or get fired: "So-and-so is a fine public servant and I don't blame him for what happened. It wasn't his fault - but it is his responsibility. I have therefore asked for and received his resignation."

Posted by: JPS at May 14, 2013 10:31 AM (g11mv)

21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This recital is all well and good but never forget that things could have been immeasurably worse. But for our intrepid media, heroically represented by the likes of Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson, America could well have been saddled with an even greater horror...an inexperienced former governor of Alaska as our Vice President. Thank God we dodged that bullet. /

Posted by: LGoPs at May 14, 2013 10:31 AM (g9KEM)

22

There is always a but attached by each liberal talking head, stating in so many words that Benghazi was nothing but political theater by the conservatives.

Got that? A way to trivialize Benghazi; and save Hillary's skin. Watch them all at once, you'll see the pattern, even Jon Stewart's attack on the IRS and AP scandal downplays Benghazi. Every.Single.One.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:31 AM (XYSwB)

23 I'd consider Gosnell a scandal for Soetero the crying fucktard as well. Barry voted against Born Alive. He owns Gosnell.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 10:32 AM (eMP2S)

24
I still think IRSis a squirrel- clumsilyreleased-to distract from Benghazi.

Which tells me how damaging they think Benghazi could be.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (SCcgT)

25 Go to nbc.com. They are STILL trying to bury the rapidly metastasizing Obama scandals. Prince Harry comes first. Amazing!

Posted by: Body Builder at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (DrC22)

26


This is big, too. Free speech being squashed.

The ignored DOJ scandal — anti-free speech codes on campuses


over at the legal insurrection

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MANDATES UNCONSTITUTIONAL SPEECH CODES AT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES NATIONWIDE

http://thefire.org/article/15767.html

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (XYSwB)

27 Jane, I agree. The CIA has more shit and they are tired of being the fall guys for these incompetent clowns.

Video of the attack with sound? That would certainly bring the attack to the surface. TV loves them some video.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (wR+pz)

28 It will be interesting to see how the AP and those who write for it react. Will they say "oh, you're such a naughty boy but we wuv you anyhow", like a mother speaks to a son caught stealing nudie magazines, or will they say "f*ck him, he messed with the wrong people!" and start doing their jobs?

Posted by: William Teach at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (vRNdo)

29 and fuck that space-zapper.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (SCcgT)

30 The most striking thing about Benghazi is that Jamie Gorelick does not appear to have been involved.

Which leads one to wonder what truly horrible calumny she was brewing up at the time.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (Q9qpj)

31 To quote Flounder from that great American film "Animal House":

"Oh boy oh boy oh boy!"

Posted by: GuyfromNH at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (ILXYI)

32 There's also the sex scandal at DHS (women managers harrassing males). There's also something that would probably be a scandal if we knew what he was up to - the several times he has ditched the press. The email scandals (Cabinet level appointees using fake names to hide info from the public and Congress). Naming "recess" appointees when Congress was not in recess... I'm sure we could think of dozens of things that should be considered scandalous by a righteous public.

Posted by: Baldy at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (tyDFN)

33 . . . and can we bag the impeachment talk? It ain't gonna happen. The Republicans shot their wad with Billy Jeff. Even if they had enough votes in the Senate to convict (which they don't and won't), the Dims would portray an impeachment effort as evil Rethuglicans going after a Dim president for purely political reasons. And racism. Mostly racism.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (RJ+Yj)

34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7tgX_Uaqs


Posted by: dan-O at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (D0bIN)

35 the russians caught an us diplomat trying to turn a soviet into a double agent.....

http://tinyurl.com/d3nvdgs

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (GVxQo)

36 I am not a crook.

Posted by: Prez'nit Milhous at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (vbh31)

37
5 -

It's important to remember that Watergate did not sink Nixon immediately either. The left was screaming as loud as they could before Nov. '72, and Nixon won in a landslide anyway.

These things take time. It's frustrating when you're in the middle of it, and clearly the big difference between then and now is the participation of the press, but I can't help but be optimistic at this point that we're going to see some good come from all of this.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (TOk1P)

38 The AP Phone records will be the biggest hitting scandal. The AP, first and foremost, protects its own. It won't be a matter of the public caring, but the gatekeepers care and they are pissed.

Posted by: BSKB at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (4KWOY)

39 Bevel, yes - but who will draw that connection, besides Fox News and those other rabid partisans we all know not to listen to (like you or me)?

Bush authorizes enhanced interrogation and there's a bright clear line connecting him to Abu Ghraib. But Obama votes against legal protections for babies born in botched abortions, here we have a maniacally dedicated abortionist who killed babies born in botched abortions...nah, I don't really see it.

Posted by: JPS at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (g11mv)

40 If we ever find out what Stevens was really doing there, Benghazi may turn out to be far more than political.

The AP thing is a scandal because the media says so. Scandals can slowly evolve, or they can be declared. This one was declared

I think the media, although they'll never admit it, has finally figured out that sucking Obama's dick ain't helping them stay employed.

Revenues down, credibility down, loss of market share, mass firings, newspapers closing, magazines (literally) being sold at Dollar Menu prices, salary haircuts, big names being shown the door, etc.

Happy talk ain't been putting any gelt in their pockets.

Posted by: @PurpAv at May 14, 2013 10:35 AM (4ckfP)

41
25Go to nbc.com.

No. Absolute boycott.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 14, 2013 10:36 AM (SCcgT)

42 Benghazi really chaps my ass.

You don't abandon your people.

But yeah, it does looks like the wheels are falling off 0bama's bus at the moment. We'll have to wait and see if the bus actually goes off the cliff or just ends up in the weeds.

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:36 AM (8sCoq)

43

Mika's brain has been replaced by the one on the other end of her Blackberry.

She literally cannot speak without reading what to say at this point.

A real-time puppet.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:36 AM (XYSwB)

44 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (XYSwB)

I'll have to read that, and it seems pretty inflamatory. However- isn't that just one more reason not to send your kid to college?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:36 AM (/PCJa)

45 31 To quote Flounder from that great American film "Animal House":


"The Negroes stole our dates?"

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 14, 2013 10:36 AM (wR+pz)

46 We'll have to wait and see but there is a good chance that this is just a spat and Obama and the media will soon be having make up sex.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 14, 2013 10:36 AM (XUKZU)

47 Add in to the "forgotten" list, his campaign turning off the validation code on credit card contributions. In both 2008 and 2012. The FEC says, "at this point, what does it matter?"

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2013 10:37 AM (BAS5M)

48 >>>The most striking thing about Benghazi is that Jamie Gorelick does not appear to have been involved.

***

Heh. No shit. Gorelick to me epitomizes the fact that Democrats never, ever, ever - not even once - get held accountable for anything. EVER.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 14, 2013 10:37 AM (g9KEM)

49 As they say third time is a charm.


My next scandal should pretty much destroy the nation.

Stay tuned.

Posted by: Jaime Gorelick at May 14, 2013 10:37 AM (vJ+mj)

50 I've never understood why, in the midst of Benghazi, we didn't simply fast-rope Hillery in amongst the bastards and her crush them with her giant thighs.

Posted by: Exceptionally Mediocre at May 14, 2013 10:37 AM (ZKGJl)

51
33 -

If the evidence indicates criminal intent on the part of this administration, impeachments (yes, many) will have to come. Regardless of the outcome in the Senate.

I want to see how Reid got ahold of Romney's tax records.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 14, 2013 10:37 AM (TOk1P)

52 Benghazi could quickly move up the list if thesubsurface storyof gun running turns out to have legs.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 14, 2013 10:37 AM (K+mtQ)

53 These scandals are suddenly growing and advancing like an ice sheet towards the White House...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 14, 2013 10:38 AM (wtvvX)

54 Dishonorable mentions:
Fast and Furious/Pigford
"They should be bigger deals but for various reasons they simply aren’t."




Pigford wasn't an Obama thing. That was a CBC push that went through during the infamous Christmas Eve lame duck session; with the help of two Republicans.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2013 10:38 AM (53z96)

55
Tweet from Bette Midler:

I LOVE THE IRS!!! HOW CAN A POLITICAL ORGANIZATION BE CALLED A NON-PROFIT THAT PROMOTES GENERAL WELFARE??

Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!

I'm going with Dilaudid for the win.

Posted by: Jaws at May 14, 2013 10:38 AM (4I3Uo)

56 The most striking thing about Benghazi is that Jamie Gorelick does not appear to have been involved.

Which leads one to wonder what truly horrible calumny she was brewing up at the time.


Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 14, 2013 10:34 AM (Q9qpj)


She bailed on defending Duke against the civil claims by the LAX students so even that witless bint knows there are times to throw your cards in and take a hike.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 14, 2013 10:38 AM (Vn7Sn)

57 Drudge editor Joseph Curl: ‘CIA source says still one more shoe to drop� for Obama administration.

The CIA will not be silent under Barry's bus.


Hopefully like a loose, banging muffler.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2013 10:39 AM (KvM9d)

58 Rumor also has it that Obama's tears taste like Armand de Brignac Brut Gold and Jay-Z's ballsack. But mostly, Jay-Z's ballsack.

Posted by: Fritz at May 14, 2013 10:39 AM (UzPAd)

59 @40

Well, true dat. It was reported months ago that a gun deal was going down and the CIA had captured some nasties and the fight was to free the towel heads they had.

Guns for Syrian rebels shipped from Benz was the plan.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 14, 2013 10:39 AM (wR+pz)

60 Hello. My desktop IP had been banned. 173.226.71.three-four

Please assist. I have important observations that need to be shared with the world.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 14, 2013 10:39 AM (Qh0T+)

61
. . . and can we bag the impeachment talk? It ain't gonna happen.

***

Yeah, and Boner is not exactly covering himself with glory. Circumstances have lobbed several softballs right over the plate and he refuses to swing.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (XUKZU)

62 I smell blood

Posted by: Shark at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (9Bj8R)

63 The IRS attacking Tea Party and conservative groups/individuals in the run-up to the 2012 election now looms large in Romney's loss. 2010 scared the regime shitless and so they sicked the IRS on those groups they felt could hurt team SCOAMF.

Not saying that it's the only reason Mitt lost, but I think it could have been a big factor.

We really are being ruled by tyrants. But thankfully, we have Boehner and the GOP establishment to hold them accountable....

Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (+98Gb)

64 So, contrary to his commencement address, tyranny really was right around the corner.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (QXlbZ)

65
It's egregious, preposterous, lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!

Posted by: Jackie Chiles Obama at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (jKWYf)

66
" (probably via subpoenas) "
You "know" this how?
Subpoenas are specific to person or persons as you well know.

Posted by: Gulermo at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (LaLuv)

67 Yea, I'm with Drew on the AP stuff. I mean, who wouldn't want the government to have the ability to access phone records of an entire news outlet(hate those guys), secretly, for months on end. Seems completely reasonable. That could never be abused and in any case it was only used to shore up a few pesky leaks. Nothing wrong with that. What matters is National Security and the power of the government to ensure our safety. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: meh at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (NA9mY)

68 It was reported months ago that a gun deal was going down and the CIA had captured some nasties and the fight was to free the towel heads they had.

Guns for Syrian rebels shipped from Benz was the plan.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 14, 2013 10:39 AM (wR+pz)

Yes I think that is true also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (9Bj8R)

69

This is an interesting clip (say it ain't so...), but Chuck Todd actually says it was a wider net being thrown, not just to AP:

CHUCK TODD: it’s chilling and they owe us an explanation. The broad scope of what they subpoenaed in going after phone records. They potentially tapped reporter’s phone records from a bunch of news organizations in the broadways they went on and subpoenaed to Capitol Hill pressroom. Any reporter from any news organization could have been using this. Here they claim they were going after the Associated Press.

and then he continued:

TODD: It’s just that they went to the capital pressroom. There is shared communications there. The idea of going after people’s personal cell phones which by the way is where a majority of reporting is done when you do the telephone reporting these days. It seems over the top and you wonder, they better have a very good explanation of whatever fish they are trying to smoke out. Let’s realize they put it well a little while ago. This has been an attempt, a concerted effort to spook anybody that might leak, anybody that might be a source or a whistle blower in government and sort of keep them from ever talking to the press.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (XYSwB)

70 . . and can we bag the impeachment talk? It ain't gonna happen. The Republicans shot their wad with Billy Jeff. Even if they had enough votes in the Senate to convict (which they don't and won't), the Dims would portray an impeachment effort as evil Rethuglicans going after a Dim president for purely political reasons. And racism. Mostly racism.

No. Just because people will slander you does not mean you don't do what's right. Let them say what they will. It's our timidity about doing what's right that has led to so many problems.

See, what happens is Conservatives (including conservative Republicans) start on a course that is just and right, but then start getting called mean names. Then the Republican portion of that coalition says, "OH NOES! This is hurting us politically!" and they stop. They never bother to think "doesn't stopping show that we agree that we're in the wrong?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (/PCJa)

71 Solyndra and other green companies
GM pension grab
Acorn

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (m2CN7)

72 62 I smell blood
Posted by: Shark at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (9Bj8R)


You have an overactive Lorenzini, boy-o!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (+98Gb)

73

*clip

http://freebeacon.com/todd-on-phone-records-scandal-its-chilling/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (XYSwB)

74 71 Solyndra and other green companies
GM pension grab
Acorn
Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (m2CN7)


Doug Ross @ Journal has a very long chronicle. You'll have to search it out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (+98Gb)

75 43




Mika's brain has been replaced by the one on the other end of her Blackberry.



She literally cannot speak without reading what to say at this point.



A real-time puppet.




Stupid scrunt has never even tried to hide her receiving WH talking points.

Mika, looking at Blackberry: "Joe, Valerie said you're wrong on that point."

Beyond disgusting. Completely in the pocket of the administration.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (lVPtV)

76 There was also the scandal of his INTENTIONAL foreign fundraising for both campaigns. He started out in scandal. I'm afraid I sometimes feel desensitized by them all...

Posted by: Baldy at May 14, 2013 10:42 AM (tyDFN)

77 Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!

I'm going with Dilaudid for the win.


Thorazine for second!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2013 10:42 AM (KvM9d)

78 So Jews are gonna get "Special Handling" under obama. Interesting. And you wonder why that "term" was not caught by anyone in the obama admin- because liberal Jews have no idea what that means, the ignorant sluts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 10:43 AM (9Bj8R)

79 Benghazi should be number one with a bullet. It is the mission of the President to be this nation's chief diplomat and he failed by having one of his own representatives murdered either directly or indirectly or by sheer incompetence.

But the MSM has poisoned that well, so give up, right? [sarcasm font]It's OK to back down. The LIV's will still respect you [sarcasm font close]

Posted by: Michael Moore's Boobs at May 14, 2013 10:43 AM (rCS6C)

80 I don't know exactly how the IRS works, but my guess is that there are all kinds of warnings, etc. in place to prevent casual political bias in audits and denying of tax-exempt status.

Even if they are "career employees", they had to have gotten some sort of thumbs-up from somebody relatively close to Obama.

It's too big a risk.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 14, 2013 10:43 AM (T0NGe)

81 There's some seeerious dogwhistling going in this here post.

*dials AttackWatch hotline*

Posted by: jakeman at May 14, 2013 10:43 AM (96M6e)

82
1Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.
---
You know, i used to find this an amusing piece of hyperbole.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (SO2Q8)

83 61
. . . and can we bag the impeachment talk? It ain't gonna happen.


We absolutely should talk about impeachment. It probably won't happen, but it's warranted.

We need a response stronger than the GOP leadership sending a 'gravely concerned' letter and then going out to eat with Barry.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (XN0LR)

84 "...you have a powerful Super Scandal that a smart opposition party could use to do real damage to ObamaCare."

Where are you going to find one of those?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (O6Tmi)

85 So Jews are gonna get "Special Handling" under obama. Interesting. And you wonder why that "term" was not caught by anyone in the obama admin- because liberal Jews have no idea what that means, the ignorant sluts

What's beyond "chilling?" 'Cause that's beyond chilling.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (/PCJa)

86 "metastasizing Obama" - Probably the best summation out there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (uIz7u)

87 Where are you going to find one of those?

Sorry, the only smart party is the one involved in all the scandals.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (/PCJa)

88
why am I thinking of a dog with bones??

Posted by: soothsayer at May 14, 2013 10:45 AM (qpM85)

89

er, two bones

Posted by: soothsayer at May 14, 2013 10:45 AM (/eLjI)

90 You know, i used to find this an amusing piece of hyperbole.

Really? I was never engaging in hyperbole.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:45 AM (/PCJa)

91 This administration has a real habit of fucking over people who have or are trying to aid us combating terrorism. I would never trust this government. you risk your life if you do...

Posted by: Waldo at May 14, 2013 10:45 AM (sXWmd)

92
I don't know exactly how the IRS works, but my guess is that there are all kinds of warnings, etc. in place to prevent casual political bias in audits and denying of tax-exempt status.

***
Since this happened at several offices through out the country then either the IRS is completely corrupt or this was directed from the top.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 14, 2013 10:46 AM (XUKZU)

93 Now we have Marines on standby to possibly go into Libya to "curb unrest" or something.

Imagine how they feel with Choom Boy as their CiC.

If they do go in, and one life is lost...ugh. Can't go there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 10:46 AM (lVPtV)

94 Since this happened at several offices through out the country then either the IRS is completely corrupt or this was directed from the top.

Those are not mutually exclusive statements.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:46 AM (/PCJa)

95 "a smart opposition party"...
Hahahahaha.. where we gonna find one of those?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 14, 2013 10:47 AM (f9c2L)

96 Benghazi hasn't ripened yet. Still needs investigation.

The IRS thing is done, as far as investigation goes. Even if it doesn't go to Barky, it goes to *progressivism*. It is perfect for rallying the Right. Every GOP candidate needs it on their ads. And we can circle back to it next year if we get a slow month.

So Benghazi should be the focus. Especially since it annoys Volcano Boi.

Good roundup btw, Drew.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 14, 2013 10:47 AM (a33IE)

97 42 Benghazi really chaps my ass.

You don't abandon your people.

But yeah, it does looks like the wheels are falling off 0bama's bus at the moment. We'll have to wait and see if the bus actually goes off the cliff or just ends up in the weeds.



I'd like to think the wheels are falling off, but I remember all the dick sucking that went on at this site during the elections. And he was elected again. ALL of these scandals will be a nothing burger. Once again.

Posted by: Citation X driver at May 14, 2013 10:47 AM (AVQ2x)

98 Eric Holder looks like a weasel

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:47 AM (8sCoq)

99 Here is what the President should say but won't about the IRS thing:

A few years ago I made a joke in a speech at ASU about auditing the President of the University. When, I heard about the IRS targeting individuals and groups, I was not laughing. The IRS and our tax codes are not jokes, and they are not weapons. I have fired the (whatever the lead counsel in Cincinatti). I have placed the head of the IRS on administrative leave. I am ordering the AG to investigate this abuse.

I want the American people to know that this behavior disgusts me. Anyone who knows me, who has heard me speak, would know that I would never, ever wish that the power of government be used in this way.



But of course he can't say that. Because this is exactly how he operates. Remember Joe the Plumber? Look at OFA collecting names from fundraising. Hell, look at the official White House website.

Posted by: blaster at May 14, 2013 10:47 AM (W6bkf)

100 Yea, I'm with Drew on the AP stuff. I mean, who wouldn't want the government to have the ability to access phone records of an entire news outlet(hate those guys), secretly, for months on end. Seems completely reasonable. That could never be abused and in any case it was only used to shore up a few pesky leaks. Nothing wrong with that. What matters is National Security and the power of the government to ensure our safety. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: meh at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (NA9mY)

Warning, Ace has considered bans over comments considered to be attacks on the Cobloggers.

Posted by: Nate at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (i3OIF)

101 Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!

I'm going with Dilaudid for the win.Posted by: Jaws at May 14, 2013 10:38 AM (4I3Uo)


Good guess, I'll submit Retardozine.

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (+xmn4)

102 I didn't know about the Jewish angle. Gee, almost every day in every way Obama proves what a great Christian heis. SARC is, because whatever real Christians (as opposed to neo nazis slugs) might feel about a Palestinian state there is no question that real Christians support the existence of Israel and its right to exist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (kENHJ)

103 high fives CBD

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (f9c2L)

104 The damage now is greater than the sum of its parts because so many things are going wrong at once. People are starting to get the impression that Obama is both corrupt AND incompetent. As bonus deliciousness, the press looks really bad.

Posted by: pep at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (6TB1Z)

105 I may be a cynic, but there is no way congress will impeach the nation's first black president.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (mV8sg)

106 Obama's a Chicago politician and Cook County Illinois is famous for its very colorful and corrupt politics. Only a fool would think that he was the sole virgin in that whorehouse.

And by 'fool' I mean a lot of voters.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (hLRSq)

107 So what's this (main page, sidebar) about a CIA Agent arrested in Russia?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (/PCJa)

108 Doug Ross @ Journal has a very long chronicle. You'll have to search it out.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:41 AM (+98Gb)

Thanks.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (m2CN7)

109 None of these are hills to die on. Too hard. The media won't cooperate. Democrats will call us racists.

What is most important is that candidates with an "R" after their names win elections, and the only way they're going to do that is by refusing to dig our heels in on anything. Stay nimble. Adapt to the circumstances, mainly by bowing to every Democrat demand, letting their scandals pass by in silence, and moving ever further to the left. We simply can't afford principles. They might cost us elections.

Once we've done that and won back the Senate and the White House, then we can make a quick jump to the right and all will be well.

Sound like a plan?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (CJjw5)

110 104The damage now is greater than the sum of its parts because so many things are going wrong at once. People are starting to get the impression that Obama is both corrupt AND incompetent. As bonus deliciousness, the press looks really bad.
Posted by: pep at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (6TB1Z)


That won't stop the LIVs from writing it all off as "Both sides do it!!1!".

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 10:50 AM (+xmn4)

111 I'm toying with a Unified Theory of Scandals that puts all of them under the rubric of Taste The Tyranny. Fundamentally, that is what all of these are about. Setting the IRS upon political opponents? The King shall be free to use his minions to attack potential usurpers to the throne. Extorting money from those over which a department head has oversight? The King is entitled to the first harvest of wheat. Claiming that the King should not be entitled to legislate as he wishes? The King pronounces, the subjects comply. Diplomats killed whilst on a mission for the King? The King's couriers live only at his whim. Potentially spying on the phones for the press? The King is entitled to know what his criers are saying.


All of the scandals, all of them, stem from the view that there should not be any limitations to what the Executive may do and the corollary view that what the Executive does necessarily is proper. How dare mere subjects question the King?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 14, 2013 10:50 AM (VtjlW)

112 That escalated quickly...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI


Posted by: Chairman Mow at May 14, 2013 10:50 AM (RGDtb)

113 >Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!


Dammitol

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:50 AM (8sCoq)

114 105 I may be a cynic, but there is no way congress will impeach the nation's first black president.


Hence his behavior.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 10:51 AM (XN0LR)

115 Eric Holder looks like a weasel


I've always said he looks like the black version of Yanni, minus the awesome hair.


Eric Holder: http://tinyurl.com/b46guco


Yanni: http://tinyurl.com/6m5nycr


Why don't we ever see the two of them together at the same time?!?!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2013 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)

116 "ObamaCare is still unpopular, well over budget and pretty much doomed to failure."

That depends on your success criteria.

If growing government and confiscating private property is the goal, then it's working just fine thank you.

Posted by: BlearyTruth at May 14, 2013 10:51 AM (uazKL)

117 I may be a cynic, but there is no way congress will impeach the nation's first black president.

I'm afraid you're right.

Of course, I'm not sure impeachment means anything. Only two impeachments in history, and neither succeeded. The second failed on purely political grounds. That is: no one disputed the facts regarding the articles of impeachment. Democrats just decided their party being in power was more important than the law.

That lead directly to TFG.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:51 AM (/PCJa)

118 100
Yea, I'm with Drew on the AP stuff. I mean, who wouldn't want the
government to have the ability to access phone records of an entire news
outlet(hate those guys), secretly, for months on end. Seems completely
reasonable. That could never be abused and in any case it was only used
to shore up a few pesky leaks. Nothing wrong with that. What matters is
National Security and the power of the government to ensure our safety.
Nothing to see here.

Posted by: meh at May 14, 2013 10:40 AM (NA9mY)



Warning, Ace has considered bans over comments considered to be attacks on the Cobloggers.

Posted by: Nate at May 14, 2013 10:48 AM (i3OIF)


That's hardly an attack. It's a sarcastic disagreement with Drew's take on the AP story.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2013 10:51 AM (X6akg)

119 >That won't stop the LIVs from writing it all off as "Both sides do it!!1!".


Because Bush Cheney Haliburton!

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:52 AM (8sCoq)

120 We absolutely should talk about impeachment. It probably won't happen, but it's warranted.

We need a response stronger than the GOP leadership sending a 'gravely concerned' letter and then going out to eat with Barry.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (XN0LR)


If it were my call, I'd stay "gravely concerned" until the Democrats themselves brought up impeachment, because of what Obama's reputation was doing to their re-election chances.

Keeping Obama in office until at least 2014 while looking like a corrupt piece of shit he obviously is advantageous.

If Obama then got impeached, I would then enjoy the spectacle of Joe Biden as the face of the Democrat Party for the short time remaining until 2016.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let it Burn) at May 14, 2013 10:52 AM (Qxe/p)

121 This just in from the lefty idiots on facebook:

"If you name your party after a historical armed tax revolt you should expect to be audited by the IRS. If you named your club the "Burning Things Unsafely Club" you would expect the fire marshal to show up, right?"

I can't even begin to comprehend the hypocritical stupid in that. Wait, no, I've got it:

"I hate the Tea Party and anything that the Greatest Human Being Who Has Ever Lived Or, Indeed, Will Ever Live does to them is A-OK by me, even if it is a grossly illegal abuse of power."

Posted by: Fart at May 14, 2013 10:52 AM (2aB+q)

122 60 Hello. My desktop IP had been banned. 173.226.71.three-four

Please assist. I have important observations that need to be shared with the world.
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 14, 2013 10:39 AM (Qh0T+)


Clean out your cache.
Unplug your modem from the computer and the electric outlet.
Reboot your computer.

Posted by: Waldo at May 14, 2013 10:52 AM (sXWmd)

123
101 -

I'm going to go with the medication not taken. As in, she stopped.

Simple, but time-tested: Lithium.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 14, 2013 10:52 AM (TOk1P)

124 113 >Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!


Dammitol
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:50 AM (8sCoq)


You must be a Congress of Wonders/Firesign Theatre fan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:53 AM (+98Gb)

125 Oh, and:

plug your modem back into the outlet and the computer.

Posted by: Waldo at May 14, 2013 10:53 AM (sXWmd)

126 Sound like a plan?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (CJjw5)

everything except the part about winning the Senate and White House. It still may be a little to soon. We need to weigh our options.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2013 10:53 AM (m2CN7)

127 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (CJjw5)


So standard operating procedure?

Posted by: The RNC at May 14, 2013 10:53 AM (XN0LR)

128 I may be a cynic, but there is no way congress will impeach the nation's first black president.


Can we just impeach his white half then ?

Posted by: cu'chulainn at May 14, 2013 10:53 AM (Vk2CC)

129 The AP is not really a nexus of conservative reporting. So the thing that stands out for me is did the administration just backstab one of their foot soldiers. From this point on will the AP be more likely to be critical of Obama?

Posted by: jason in phoenix at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (DNED1)

130 85 So Jews are gonna get "Special Handling" under obama. Interesting. And you wonder why that "term" was not caught by anyone in the obama admin- because liberal Jews have no idea what that means, the ignorant sluts

What's beyond "chilling?" 'Cause that's beyond chilling.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:44 AM (/PCJa)


Sonder Behandlung. Sounds much better in the original German, nein?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (+98Gb)

131 Drew - Benghazi could have legs, but it's a long shot.

Here's what I think.. Obama got caught with his pants down.. maybe literally.

No one has yet to ascertain who in the White House received the flash traffic message from Benghazi at the White House. We need to know what chain that went through. I'm betting either Obama wasn't there or blew it off. (or maybe he was blowing Reggie off.. who knows?)

If we can get someone to testify that Obama was AWOL or blew it off personally, then we have a real scandal. Otherwise, it's merely a FUBAR situation that can be blamed on miscommunications and nameless bureaucrats.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (f9c2L)

132 That's hardly an attack. It's a sarcastic disagreement with Drew's take on the AP story.
Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2013 10:51 AM (X6akg)

It isn't, but Ace might have a bad day every once and a awhile, it is good to be cautious.

Posted by: Nate at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (i3OIF)

133 The left is being as predictable as ever. Bush did it too, it's the Republicans trying to create a scandal, it's because Barry is black.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (1Jaio)

134 Benghazi, even if you swallow the excuse that it was "too late" to send help (which I don't), is gross dereliction of duty in the President's unique and clear role as CiC. The coverup is also a really scandalous political move and seems to flaunt Congressional oversight. So to me Benghazi IS the worst. I'd put Fast and Furious second b/c of body count and POTUS responsibility as face of the US internationally.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (KZ5KD)

135 Sound like a plan?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (CJjw5)

You know what's really embarrassing?

The fucking retards believe it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (O6Tmi)

136 From this point on will the AP be more likely to be critical of Obama?

It's our fault. If we hadn't made him angry, he wouldn't have hit us.

Posted by: The Associate Press at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (/PCJa)

137 ooh Julie Banderas sighting

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (8sCoq)

138 everyone hates/fears the IRS


Bette Midler on Twitter: I LOVE THE IRS!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (7ObY1)

139 This is scandal overload. It will all merge into one big mess that the media will ignore and by the end of summer Obama and the media will be renewing their vows, pledging love and fidelity for evermore.

Posted by: Decaf at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (z+Ems)

140 Well, maybe I'm a little bit of a crook. Sigh.

Posted by: Prez'nit Milhous at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (vbh31)

141 Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!

---------------------------------------------------
Fukitall

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (jucos)

142

108 polynikes:

For you (and all) -

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/06/president-barack-obamas-complete-list.html


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (+98Gb)

143 >From this point on will the AP be more likely to be critical of Obama?


They get their back fur up for a little while, then return to blowing him

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (8sCoq)

144
Other than that, how your golf Mr. President?

Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (mETGQ)

145 Still before noon!


http://bit.ly/128uTS8


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (VtjlW)

146 Wrong again, Drew. Obama is CIC. CIC is a military commander, and by neglecting to react to an attack on US soil, he may be lawfully guilty of deriliction of duty. Naturally, it won't happen unless he's on record ordering the troops to stand down. But it's still not a political only scandal. Also, he and other admin members probably won't be charged on anything regarding IRS.

So, I don't get the distinction you make.

Posted by: Juicer at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (VpZSG)

147 Bette Midler on Twitter: I LOVE THE IRS!Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (7ObY1)

Spoken like a true tax cheat.

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (+xmn4)

148 It is NOT paranoia if everyone really IS out to get me...

Posted by: Barack Millhouse Obama at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (jucos)

149

When we seize back power, we need to build Motte and Baileys. Throw them up every couple of miles across the entire land. It worked for the Normans and it will work for us, too.

Posted by: Waldo at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (sXWmd)

150 131 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (f9c2L)


Obama was AWOL for 8 hours. And 2 stand-down orders were given.

Only one person has the authority to do that; the C-in-C.

And that is SCOAMF.

Q - E - D

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:57 AM (+98Gb)

151 Bette Midler on Twitter: I LOVE THE IRS!

She'll be warbling The Rose at the weekly camp talent shows.

Posted by: Prez'nit Milhous at May 14, 2013 10:57 AM (vbh31)

152 Just because people will slander you does not mean you don't do what's right.

I think we make a gigantic mistake in associating courts and court-like proceedings with some sort of metaphysical "justice."

When you realize the whole thing (yes, even impeachment) is run by the lawyers for the lawyers, you realize that you won't get justice and if you're lucky, you'll get an application of the law.

And, I know nobody likes this...impeachment is political. It is structured the way it is because it is political. We have to stop this kind of deification of our political process. It's not justice or some judgement of history. It's politics and the politics don't call for impeachment or removal.

You're not going to get impeachment on negligence or any other "shoulda"s on the case of Obama. The only possible way is if he, himself, committed a crime.

What crime has Obama, himself, committed -- that can be proved? Stupid, dangerous policies in Benghazi? Laziness in overseeing the IRS? In all of these things, Obama's either entirely disinterested or has personal plausible deniability.

First, don't jump the gun. If he's found personally culpable, nail him. Otherwise, go after people we know are guilty with Congressional oversight.

Second, this is scandalpalooza and other scandals will break as well, in part because people will think this is a good time for them to break. We can just pick one up at our convenience, run with it for a while and let it drop for a time.

Third, there are so many scandals that an impeachment proceeding will just focus the libs. Unfocus them. Again, too many scandals.

It's not just good politics, it's more just. Better to win by going after lower players than lose by going after the big fish right away.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 14, 2013 10:57 AM (T0NGe)

153 "78 So Jews are gonna get "Special Handling" under obama. Interesting. And you wonder why that "term" was not caught by anyone in the obama admin- because liberal Jews have no idea what that means, the ignorant sluts"

It's not the same kind of "special handling" enjoyed by David Gregory, I'm sure.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (HjPtV)

154 On the AP stuff, if the DOJ had a valid warrant approved through a federal court to obtain those records I would have no problem with it, or not much of a problem depending on why they went after them.



But if they had no warrant then someone should go to JAIL.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (53z96)

155 I am up for impeaching Obama's electorate. Half the country is provably too stupid or corrupt to be trusted with the franchise.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (a33IE)

156 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 14, 2013 10:56 AM (VtjlW)

I think I'm starting to get burned out. Which, I think, is part of what TFG is hoping for. I'm on the side of him purposely releasing the info about the IRS scandal and the AP bugging scandal- specifically to "saturation bomb" us with scandals just so we can't keep up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (/PCJa)

157 @100 Really, net-nanny?

You got a direct line to the boss man? Because "getting attacked" (AKA "being gently mocked" to those of us not wearing our pants up around our nipples) is part and parcel of co-blogging here, and has been for years.

Jesus Christ collecting lawnmower catalogs, man, that was an "attack?"
Really? Who are you, Ned Flanders?


Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (Q9qpj)

158 Sound like a plan?

Honestly, it sounds more like a straw man. Granted, Boehner and Cantor aren't going to be on the cover of He-Man Quarterly any time soon, but I expect that lots of Pubs will want to take this opportunity to put a stake in the heart of Barry's little socialist putsch. I guess we'll see.

Posted by: pep at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (6TB1Z)

159 If it were my call, I'd stay "gravely concerned" until the Democrats themselves brought up impeachment, because of what Obama's reputation was doing to their re-election chances.

I wouldn't hang my hat on that.

The Democrats are an actually viable political party. They recognize that their base is more important to winning than the middle.

A Democrat will never suggest impeaching Obama. They might vote to impeach if they are from a battleground state when the issue has already come up (probably not), but no Democrat is going to want the mailbombs and unhinged hatred which will hurtle toward him if he calls for impeaching Caesar Hussein.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (gvWL9)

160 It isn't, but Ace might have a bad day every once and a awhile, it is good to be cautious.
Posted by: Nate at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (i3OIF)


If we were cautious, courteous, and had manners we would not be morons and and this Blog would not be the fun place it is. Have a drink or 2 or 3 and relax.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (9Bj8R)

161
What I don't get about how people view all this is, why is it necessary to tie this back to trying to GET THE BLACK GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE???

Seriously you guys, you can chip away at all the Presidents men. You don't have to start at the top. History tells us that.

Figure out who in the Administration had the direct line to the IRS twits. LEAVE BARACK OBAMA OUT OF IT!

Or risk having it all fall apart because, racist.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (TOk1P)

162 When we seize back power, we need to build Motte and Baileys. Throw them up every couple of miles across the entire land. It worked for the Normans and it will work for us, too.

------------------------

Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity.

Posted by: Gen. George S. Patton at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (CJjw5)

163 157 a balrog....

nate bruises easily

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (GVxQo)

164 Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 10m

Former Chargers RB Chuck Muncie passed away of a heart attack. RIP.

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (8sCoq)

165 My current fantasy is Obama being impeached, arrested, and sent to Gitmo along with Minnie Rodent, Jay Carney, Axeltoad, Chinless Holder, et al.

Cuba is lovely this time of year, I hear.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (lVPtV)

166 If I were in charge of a committee investigating Benghazi I would first request the presence or subpoena if necessary, the special ops team that was ready to deploy on a rescue mission to Benghazi.

I would ask one question. Who ordered you to stand down?

And then I would subpoena that person. And so on and so until I got to Obama. Of course, he would have had someone thrown under the bus by that time.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2013 11:00 AM (m2CN7)

167 Former Chargers RB Chuck Muncie passed away of a heart attack. RIP.
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (8sCoq)


He was a pretty good player as I remember.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 11:00 AM (9Bj8R)

168 Juicer nails it. There could be an Executive crime of dereliction of duty. But we don't KNOW that yet. That is why Benghazi needs investigation (and the others can wait).

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (a33IE)

169 Impeachment really would be the over-reaching that the Progs are accusing us of. But not for the reasons they give.

Look, Obama deserves to be impeached. But we don't have the Senate and we barely have the House once you figure out the squishes...and do you think the likes of Collins and Murkowski, to name just two, would be on board?

It was a bad idea against Clinton and it is a bad idea now. The MSM is finally committing a few acts of journalism. Watch them fall into Protect Barry mode immediately and irrevocably if we try to impeach.

Should he be impeached? Yes.

Will he be impeached? No

Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes.





Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (7ObY1)

170 Fast and Furious/Pigford

They should be bigger deals but for various reasons they simply aren’t

Example Number One of the current strength of the Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrissey "conservatives."
Despite massive law-breaking and a number of dead victims, we have to go all "in fairness..." on Choom Boy and hope maybe the next friggin' felony causes him some discomfort.
This really bugs me. All the stuff about the "rule of law" I was taught as a child now proves to be so much bullshit, when we (and I mean some commenters, too) decide we have to be concerned about what some other liberal felons think of our actions.
NOT impeaching President Historic First© is racism, straight up. It means we are judging him as above the law because of his skin color.

Posted by: MrScribbler at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (mHrip)

171 Political cartoon just found on FB. Ties Gaylord Fock'er speech about tyranny is not happening with the IRS anal probing.

http://tinyurl.com/cr8h2bz

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (uIz7u)

172 There is no there there. The PReznit told me so!

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (dedTA)

173 It isn't, but Ace might have a bad day every once and a awhile, it is good to be cautious.


Posted by: Nate at May 14, 2013 10:54 AM (i3OIF)



ace said he does not consider disagreement with the post as an attack.....it's personal insults against a cob he has a problem with.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (X6akg)

174 I am disappointed I didn't hear Rush or Quinn mention the IRS Jewish angle... Drudge has it on his page, but not very prominent. There is something viscerally disgusting about that.

The Obama base is composed of self-hating Jews or stone-cold anti-Semites. They'd line up to be TFGs Einsatzgruppen or Sonderkommandos in a moment.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (zF6Iw)

175 Cuba is lovely this time of year, I hear.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 10:59 AM (lVPtV)

Actually next time a see a blurp about them needing a dentist down there, I am thinking of volunteering for it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (9Bj8R)

176 When you realize the whole thing (yes, even impeachment) is run by the lawyers for the lawyers, you realize that you won't get justice and if you're lucky, you'll get an application of the law.
-------------------------

If The Lawyers and The Jew Bankers ever form an alliance, we are truly doomed.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (CJjw5)

177 Four U. S. troops killed by a road side bomb in A-stan today.

God bless them and comfort their poor families.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (lVPtV)

178 >He was a pretty good player as I remember.


3-time Pro Bowler. He was 60 years old.

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (8sCoq)

179 How quickly we are forgotten.

Posted by: GM creditors at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (evdj2)

180 ace said he does not consider disagreement with the
post as an attack.....it's personal insults against a cob he has a
problem with.


Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (X6akg)

Correct. There is world of difference with snarking on the content of a cob's post and calling one a "faggot".

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (GQ8sn)

181 I agree with the bottom-up investigation for Benghazi.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (KZ5KD)

182 Four U. S. troops killed by a road side bomb in A-stan today.

God bless them and comfort their poor families.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (lVPtV)


Bring them home NOW

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (9Bj8R)

183

Sonder Behandlung. Sounds much better in the original German, nein?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Jawohl, JJ. Es ist sehr viel besser

As is the targeting of political opponents with the agencies of state.

Posted by: imp at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (VoUg8)

184 Should he be impeached? Yes.
Will he be impeached? No
Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (7ObY1)


Would impeachment deliver positive change? No.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let it Burn) at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (Qxe/p)

185 Jane, with the partial exception of Indonesian Imbecile, most of those clowns are American citizens. They'll be headed to Colorado's supermax.

Besides Obama would probably end up as Cuba's president

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (a33IE)

186 Some of the stuff I've seen directed at the cob-loggers over the years, and now this dufus handwrings over someone daring to disagree with one.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (Q9qpj)

187 Should he be impeached? Yes.

Will he be impeached? No

Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes


Not trying to impeach a guy who uses the IRS as a weapon seems more dangerous to me.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (gvWL9)

188 To me,No. 5might be the element that stirs a potential superstorm sort of scandal that you note with No. 3. The press seems so pissed off by an afront to them andthere are plenty of opportunities available for them to get back at the White House that they might take the revenge tact. Maybe not the entire press (cough, New York Times), but enough to make a big deal in the mainstream.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at May 14, 2013 11:04 AM (YsFN3)

189

There is world of difference with snarking on the content of a cob's post and calling one a "faggot".

You can call a cob a fag, so long as he isn't one. Then you have to use more creativity, or your shit's all retarded.

Posted by: imp at May 14, 2013 11:04 AM (VoUg8)

190 All right. I want this to be a fair fight when disagreeing with the cobloggers.
I want none of this namecalling like dumbass. Or none of this like half tard monkey. Or none of this like twitter pussy. Or incompetent gutter wipe.

Now lets have a clean fight. Ding Ding.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2013 11:04 AM (m2CN7)

191 http://tinyurl.com/cn47whx (USA Today)

Caption on video:

Not so green: Obama administration allows wind-energy plants to kill eagles despite federal law (May 14)

Willy-nilly!


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at May 14, 2013 11:04 AM (2iU3x)

192
It was a bad idea against Clinton and it is a bad idea now. The MSM is finally committing a few acts of journalism. Watch them fall into Protect Barry mode immediately and irrevocably if we try to impeach.

Should he be impeached? Yes.

Will he be impeached? No

Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM..................This! Times eleventy. And I would even throw in an uptwinkle for good measure. I've only heard a few voices on the right side of the aisle mention this. But it's obviously getting attention because it's not something that's thrown out everyday. It's a gigantic mistake to do so.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 14, 2013 11:04 AM (dedTA)

193

And, as if on cue, Kirsten Powers reverts to being a leftist asshole:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/05/13/benghazi-gosnell-cry-wolf-column/2153989/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 11:05 AM (+98Gb)

194 My guess is the biggest scandal is what was going on in Benghazi.

I get it that "part" of the reason the Ambassador was there was to be able to report before 9/30 on the conditions there in support of Clinton's desired announcement about a permanent station in Benghazi: "at least in part because Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wanted to convert the department compound there into a permanent outpost and department officials wanted her to be able to announce this was the case when she made a planned visit to Libya in December 2012."

Of course, this point was omitted from the State Department's Accountability Review Board report even though Hicks specifically told the ARB that Clinton wanted the Benghazi mission converted into a permanent post.

It has been argued at CNSNews that given that she was planning to leave the State Department after 2012, a trip to Libya in December of last year to announce that the U.S. had established a permanent diplomatic presence in Benghazi--the city in which the administration had anchored its support for anti-Qaddafi Libyan revolutionaries--could have been a triumphant capstone to Clinton's diplomatic career. Said Hicks, “Washington was fully informed that the ambassador was going to Benghazi. We advised them August 22nd or thereabouts.”

tinyurl.com/cfsh73d

Is it possible someone could despise Hillary enough to engineer the failure of the capstone of her diplomatic career?

Posted by: USA at May 14, 2013 11:05 AM (VIaw0)

195 In fairness to the poster, however, he or she may be a recent refugee from Chalres Jhonson's lunatic asylum.

That would explain it.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 14, 2013 11:05 AM (Q9qpj)

196 Add <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2529609#.UZIq1hQ69Ts.twitter">
EPA waives fee requests for friendly groups, denies conservative groups</a>.
Disparate treatment of FOIA fee waiver requests based on political position. These guys just can't help it. The politics creeps into everything.

Posted by: Haiku Guy at May 14, 2013 11:05 AM (wKFky)

197 I think I'm starting to get burned out. Which, I
think, is part of what TFG is hoping for. I'm on the side of him
purposely releasing the info about the IRS scandal and the AP bugging
scandal- specifically to "saturation bomb" us with scandals just so we
can't keep up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 10:58 AM (/PCJa)


I've been commenting for a while that the volume of obviously corrupt bullshit that the JEF and his minions toss out there can't be by accident and it works to stymie the country on moving ahead on anything productive.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 14, 2013 11:05 AM (Vn7Sn)

198 Don't try to impeach Obama, it's a mug's game. Impeach his underlings, Holder, Sebelius etc.

Posted by: toby928 at May 14, 2013 11:05 AM (evdj2)

199 184Should he be impeached? Yes.
Will he be impeached? No
Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at May 14, 2013 11:01 AM (7ObY1)

Would impeachment deliver positive change? No.Posted by: jwb7605 (Let it Burn) at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (Qxe/p)


What are our options other than letting him get away with it or hoping for an errant meteor?

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (+xmn4)

200 Rut...roh! Rack up another one.....



EPA waives fee requests for friendly groups, denies conservative groups






http://tinyurl.com/czldp24

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (X6akg)

201 "Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes."

Well that settles it.. who needs principles. Only the ends matter.

Posted by: meh at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (NA9mY)

202
8 Drudge editor Joseph Curl: ‘CIA source says still one more shoe to drop’ for Obama administration.


Hope it's a huge boot to his neck

Posted by: Marybeth at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (Ks0w4)

203 @149 on "Motte and Baileys"
That's some kind of drink, right?

It's been done already. They were called National Guard Armories, built after the Civil War in response to things like the NYC draft riots and Clement Van Landingham. They looked like forts, and for quite a while they were.

Step 1 in the modern federalization of state militias, which went on and on. And, oh, they worked, too. But even in the North they were seen as the heavy hand of the New Union government. You can still hear, anywhere, how they were seen in the South.

Posted by: comatus at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (JNUY4)

204 All of these scandals were suppressed from BEFORE the election except the AP phones. The press actively looked the other way. THIS too is a scandal. The press corps is complicit in the cover-ups.

Posted by: Yip at May 14, 2013 11:07 AM (/jHWN)

205 Drew: There's also scandal at the EPA re: private email accounts being used to circumvent Federal Law. Probably another for Dishonorable Mention category.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue, now with 50% more protein at May 14, 2013 11:07 AM (8iy5P)

206 187 Should he be impeached? Yes.

Will he be impeached? No

Will trying to impeach him hurt us? Yes

Not trying to impeach a guy who uses the IRS as a weapon seems more dangerous to me.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM (gvWL9)


Abso-fucking-lutely. Come what may, he has to be gone after. And hard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 11:07 AM (+98Gb)

207
101Time for a fun new game: NAME THAT PILL!

I'm going with Dilaudid for the win.Posted by: Jaws at May 14, 2013 10:38 AM (4I3Uo)

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Gardisil?

Posted by: Michelle Bachmann at May 14, 2013 11:07 AM (SO2Q8)

208 Fast and Furious, along with the Benghazi cover-up, dwarfs anything else the resident filth currently occupying the WH has undertaken.

Posted by: WVinMN at May 14, 2013 11:07 AM (4Pleu)

209 Quite frankly "Fast and Furious" should have cooked King Joffrey's goose. Selling arms to Mexican thugs in order to get a body count and move for legislation subverting the second amendment? That's an impeachement. But black democratium and all, so bend over and enjoy it people.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 14, 2013 11:07 AM (mV8sg)

210 Impeachment would likely fail. Because race issues.

Then there's the idea of President Biden, unleashed to fully realize his own brand of crazy.

No, I like the idea of an Obama 2nd term totally consumed by the JEF's incompetence - what Mark Steyn called 'where Obama's delusions meet reality'

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 11:08 AM (8sCoq)

211 This just occurred to me:

The President really is above the law. He's not supposed to be. I'm pretty sure the founders are spinning so quickly in their graves that we could use them to power the entire continent. But it's true.

Impeachment is supposed to be about the law. It's "political" in that it is (by necessity) a political process (the House votes to Impeach, the Senate tries the case), but it was supposed to be a real threat to make sure Presidents remember that they're not above the law.

Now, we don't dare use it because "racism" and "it will hurt us politically." Rather than pursue actual justice and hold the President to actual standards (really- he should be impeached just on the number of times he's been held in Contempt of Court) means that the President has become King. He may be a temporary king who will be replaced by another one in about 4 years, but the President is King.

Maybe the mot and baileys would be a good idea, if as symbolism if nothing else.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 14, 2013 11:08 AM (/PCJa)

212 Anything improperly done got done without the President's approval. 0ne great man can't control every action of every federal employee. The President has made it quite clear that he has not got no tolerance of this Republican-like behavior. Once all the facts (which the administration has put out in detail) are clear it can be determined if anything improper was done. If so, it will be fixed. Move on, please.

Posted by: RioBravo at May 14, 2013 11:08 AM (eEfYn)

213
Not trying to impeach a guy who uses the IRS as a weapon seems more dangerous to me.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 11:03 AM ................If there's a smoking gun, yes. If not it's stupid to even bring it up right now. The press and the WH are suddenly not on as great of terms and they are starting to cover some of these scandals. Let Barry wallow in his shit filled diaper. But unless there is evidence he directed and or knew about it I think it' s a horrible idea. The left and the press (redundant terms I know) will rally around the JEF and we'll be right back to where we started.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 14, 2013 11:08 AM (dedTA)

214 Testing - 0 0 O

Posted by: RioBravo at May 14, 2013 11:09 AM (eEfYn)

215 Average Joe sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: toby928 at May 14, 2013 11:09 AM (evdj2)

216 Frankly, I anticipate more liberals jumping on the bandwagon in defense of the IRS. Remember, taxation is for all intents and purposes their outlet for altruistic expression.

Posted by: The Third Horesman Of The Apocalypse at May 14, 2013 11:09 AM (vbh31)

217 What are our options other than letting him get away with it or hoping for an errant meteor?

We can't discuss those here. Suffice it to say, lots of people had better hope to hell that he can be impeached. Because that is the constitutional remedy we have.

Posted by: comatus at May 14, 2013 11:09 AM (JNUY4)

218 Re 109 EOJ--Damn straight

It took Democrats 2 1/2 years to get Nixon and this was with tapes with the president's voice authorizing the coverup. It was aided by one of the senior FBI officials, Mark Felt, and helped by the fact that Dems had large majorities in the House and Senate. 56-43-1 in Senate and 241 to 192 in the House. Hugh Scott (Sen. Minority Leader) helped send Nixon out the door when he declared Republican Senators would not block the impeachment.

If you are going to impeach someone and make it stick, go after Eric Holder who has been Obama's protector. Bill Clinton was handicapped when an outsider Janet Reno took the office of AG. Most LIV don't care about the Atty Gen. but this office can extend a whole lot of protection from investigation. Notably, look at what happened to Nixon after his loyalist Mitchell left the DOJ--others such as William Ruckelshaus weren't going to hold the bag for Tricky Dick.



Posted by: wg at May 14, 2013 11:09 AM (DFHva)

219 What are our options other than letting him get away with it or hoping for an errant meteor?

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (+xmn4


As been pointed out one option is to keep sounding all this, let the LIVs stew in scandalous shit for a few more years then reap the gains that come from a discredited party. It's a long shot admittedly, but less so (I think) than impeachment is.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at May 14, 2013 11:10 AM (ULkyQ)

220 http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/06/president-barack-obamas-complete-list.html







Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (+98Gb)

And all before his first term was up. Who said he was a slacker??

Posted by: dananjcon at May 14, 2013 11:10 AM (jvd3N)

221 If I remember correctly using the IRS to go after political enemies was #2 on the list of Impeachment charges of Richard Nixon. Hell yes we should impeach him and every time one of the assholes in the press says something the Republican being questioned should hold that up and show it to them and as what the difference is.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2013 11:10 AM (53z96)

222 139 This is scandal overload. It will all merge into one big mess that the media will ignore and by the end of summer Obama and the media will be renewing their vows, pledging love and fidelity for evermore.
Posted by: Decaf at May 14, 2013 10:55 AM (z+Ems)

Or we're going to find out that the trouble is all these agencies working independently, which is why the WH never knows what's going on. So therefore, everything must be restructured and realigned with direct oversight from the Oval Office. For now and evermore...

Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 14, 2013 11:10 AM (fzFF6)

223 What are our options other than letting him get away with it or hoping for an errant meteor?

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 11:06 AM (+xmn4)


The only viable option I see is to keep it visible.
Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip.

Eventually, everybody but the most LIV will be so sick of it they'll vote it out. On principle.

That happened after Nixon.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let it Burn) at May 14, 2013 11:10 AM (Qxe/p)

224 Covering up arming All Qaeda in Benghazi should make it higher


Arming our enemies who use said arms to kill us? Top of the list, or at least tied.

Posted by: thunderb at May 14, 2013 11:11 AM (NzlD2)

225 Benghazi matters because, as Mark Steyn writes, it is a matter of character. So are blatant abuses of the law, but the President's prime responsibilities are to 1) execute the nations laws 2) protect us/carry out foreign policy. If he doesn't do the latter, or sells out the people who do, he and whoever joined him in that political endeavor, are unfit for office.

Now maybe you're scoring this solely from a "what gains traction from the proles" angle. That's fine. But Benghazi is important because it shows how craven and self-serving this leadership is.

Posted by: Holmes at May 14, 2013 11:11 AM (zwxCM)

226 213
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 14, 2013 11:08 AM (dedTA)


Impeachment is a legal proceeding. It should always be done based upon facts. Political considerations should
not enter into it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM (gvWL9)

227 I may be a cynic, but there is no way congress will impeach the nation's first black president.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 14, 2013 10:49 AM (mV8sg)


As has been pointed out, they don't have to. They just have to keep "impeachment" on the table, no matter what. Keep TFG sucking back Kools (and Reggie) and snorting coke off the Resolute desk.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM (zF6Iw)

228 We've reached a sad state when the Executive branch has to proclaim themselves incompetence to dodge a charge of malevolence.

Posted by: toby928 at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM (evdj2)

229 New thread....Andy wins bet.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM (X6akg)

230 If you are going to impeach someone and make it stick, go after Eric Holder who has been Obama's protector.



Don't need to impeach Holder. He has a contempt citation already. File a new one with the Washington circuit court for perjury/lying to congress in FnF. They are required by law to then form a Grand Jury to indict him.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM (53z96)

231 I refuse to consider impeachment until we have identified the Dem wife who will play the Maureen Dean role. You can't leave these things to chance.

Posted by: pep at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM (6TB1Z)

232
129The AP is not really a nexus of conservative reporting. So the thing that stands out for me is did the administration just backstab one of their foot soldiers. From this point on will the AP be more likely to be critical of Obama?
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Hell NO

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin of AP at May 14, 2013 11:13 AM (SO2Q8)

233 CHUCK TODD: it’s chilling and they owe us an explanation. The broad
scope of what they subpoenaed in going after phone records. They
potentially tapped reporter’s phone records from a bunch of news
organizations in the broadways they went on and subpoenaed to Capitol
Hill pressroom. Any reporter from any news organization could have been
using this



question... Do they have to have a judge sign off on the subpoena. ?

Posted by: willow at May 14, 2013 11:13 AM (nqBYe)

234 212Anything improperly done got done without the President's approval. 0ne great man can't control every action of every federal employee.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 14, 2013 11:08 AM (eEfYn)


Except for that one time Bin Laden was killed. I heard Obama was directly controlling the soldier with an xbox controller and taking the shot himself by proxy.

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 11:13 AM (+xmn4)

235 Hillary Clinton was legal counsel to the House Committee on the Judiciary during Watergate

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 11:13 AM (8sCoq)

236 Some people just saw their career at the CIA go bye-bye because of the officer caught in Moscow. Very amateurish, very embarrassing. Tsk.

Posted by: joncelli at May 14, 2013 11:14 AM (RD7QR)

237 Debating with a Lefty, a case study from last night:

Her: The Senate is going to vote an important bill regulating the SEC to prevent all the speculating and sub prime usury crap. The banks get richer and the middle class eats it.

Me: I wish they (SEC) would enforce the laws and regulations already on the books. Congress' attempts to fix things usually have hidden consequences that take years or more to show up.

Her: The laws were deregulated under Reagan and it has finally caught up with us. They were fine for generations before... Since Great Depression, brought on by much the same and the Great Recession. Time to reinstall those old rules that worked!!!

[bait the hook]

Me: Like Glass-Steagall separation of banking and investments? I agree.

Her: yes!

She descibes herself as a dyes-in-the-wool Liberal, very passionate about politics, very informed, and very adamant on her positions. Like the Citizens United decision must be repealed via amendment.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2013 11:14 AM (BAS5M)

238 Everything's fair game.

Time to reopen the book on the GM/Chrysler shakedown by the UAW, as managed by Obama...

http://bit.ly/hTqHJ6

That is to say - the media should actually report on this for the first time...

Posted by: goy at May 14, 2013 11:14 AM (QsFws)

239 >question... Do they have to have a judge sign off on the subpoena. ?


supposedly the AG has to authorize it

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 14, 2013 11:14 AM (8sCoq)

240 Impeachment is a legal proceeding. It should always be done based upon facts. Political considerations should
not enter into it.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 11:12 AM.......Of course. That's why I think unless the hearings and or investigations have a smoking gun I think it's foolish to bring it up until then. There's no point in giving the left and press lackeys a rallying point.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 14, 2013 11:15 AM (dedTA)

241 I've been hearing talk of impeachment. None of these scandals will result in impeachment--wait, let me qualify that: if the GOP enjoys a major 2010-likeblowout in 2014, some of the more impulsive and grandstanding Republican House members, flush with victory, may view this as a mandate to go after the President for reals, but I'm telling you here and now it would be a wasted effort, doomed from the start, one that would damage the chances of whomever we nominate to go against Hillary in 2016.

The MSM, although peeved at the AP scandal, will soon come back home and start doing their real job again, which is to cover for their beloved, meaning that the vast majority of Americans would not hear or see even a small part of the truth and even if they did, so what? 'They all do it, right?' Or at least that would be the majority response. In case you've haven't noticed, the President's popularity numbers have barely moved since all this came out.

Bottom line: the first Black American President will not be--like Nixon--faced with the choice of resignation or the certainty of a successful impeachment. His failures will be buried or obfuscated. History books will paint him as a saint. The best we can do right now is use those scandals to keep his Administration (and the Democratic Party) on the defensive, hopping around in frantic attempts to put out the various fires, thus limiting the damage they might do if given time and room to govern.

Posted by: troyriser at May 14, 2013 11:16 AM (vtiE6)

242 151 Bette Midler on Twitter: I LOVE THE IRS!

She'll be warbling The Rose at the weekly camp talent shows.

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Want to get under her skin? Tell them that someone is about to unearth her old movie The Thorn again.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 14, 2013 11:16 AM (+x8q5)

243 As been pointed out one option is to keep sounding all this, let the LIVs stew in scandalous shit for a few more years then reap the gains that come from a discredited party. It's a long shot admittedly, but less so (I think) than impeachment is.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at May 14, 2013 11:10 AM (ULkyQ)


I've no faith that the LIVs can stew in anything. It's all dismissed with "They're all corrupt!" with the throwing up of the hands and resumed ignorance.

Posted by: Heralder at May 14, 2013 11:16 AM (+xmn4)

244 Very true Allen. The only other means of removal is resignation. That only happens if the political damage for the Party of Serfdom gets so great they put pressure on the president. In most other ways this president is completely immune from Constitutional remedies. He is king in all but name.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue, now with 50% more protein at May 14, 2013 11:16 AM (r2mIz)

245 Impeachment is a legal proceeding. It should always be done based upon facts. Political considerations should not enter into it.

I disagree completely with this. IMO, impeachment is the power Congress has to counter the Executive. The system is set up so that any two branches can gang up on the third and thwart them. It's a completely political process, and rightly so, from a balance of powers perspective.

Posted by: toby928 at May 14, 2013 11:16 AM (evdj2)

246 thank you ,Jones

Posted by: willow at May 14, 2013 11:17 AM (nqBYe)

247 245 Impeachment is a legal proceeding. It should always be done based upon facts. Political considerations should not enter into it.

I disagree completely with this. IMO, impeachment is the power Congress has to counter the Executive. The system is set up so that any two branches can gang up on the third and thwart them. It's a completely political process, and rightly so, from a balance of powers perspective.

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Given that we don't control the Senate, I'd be wary about throwing around impeachment right now.

I'd rather that Boehner grow a set and begin playing hardball with budgets and other processes to geld Obama, or as much as can be done since I think Moochelle already removed those years ago.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 14, 2013 11:18 AM (+x8q5)

248 I think we make a gigantic mistake in associating courts and court-like proceedings with some sort of metaphysical "justice."

Courts dispense process, not justice. If any justice happens, its strictly coincidental.

Posted by: @PurpAv at May 14, 2013 11:18 AM (4ckfP)

249 with all these scandals, the GOP is gonna be a shoo-in for the upcoming midterms and the presidency!

LMAO just hallucinatin

Posted by: Bigby's Whistling Fingers at May 14, 2013 11:19 AM (oQ9Vj)

250 There's a good plan: impeach the underlings. EPA head, IRS head and Holder. Leave Barky to "run" the county from the sand bunker on the 13th hole.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 14, 2013 11:19 AM (a33IE)

251 Other than press reports, we have no knowledge of any attempt by the
Justice Department to seek phone records of the AP. We are not involved
in decisions made in connection with criminal investigations, as those
matters are handled independently by the Justice Department. Any
questions about an ongoing criminal investigation should be directed to
the Department of Justice."

OutFront tonight: CNN's Brian Todd has the story.


typical, The WH is Never responsible for anything.

Posted by: willow at May 14, 2013 11:19 AM (nqBYe)

252 Or we're going to find out that the trouble is all these agencies working independently, which is why the WH never knows what's going on. So therefore, everything must be restructured and realigned with direct oversight from the Oval Office. For now and evermore...

Yep, I think that's the plan.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2013 11:19 AM (kENHJ)

253 and the WH never Knows anything!

Posted by: willow at May 14, 2013 11:20 AM (nqBYe)

254 Everything's fair game.



Time to reopen the book on the GM/Chrysler shakedown by the UAW, as managed by Obama...



http://bit.ly/hTqHJ6



That is to say - the media should actually report on this for the first time...

Posted by: goy


Absolutely not. That would give them exactly what they want. "This is old news and an obvious witchhunt."

You don't topple someone with old scandals that didn't work in the first place. You use the new scandals that are emerging daily.

Posted by: pep at May 14, 2013 11:21 AM (6TB1Z)

255 The reason why the AP subpoenas are going to blow up in Obama's face is because of the target. Obama is going after the press, in their mind. It may, in fact, be completely justified, from a leak-plugging perspective. But the press is pissed off now, and they're taking a look at the real scandals with their knives out and venom in their hearts. Just as they took Clinton to task over Monica, after years of covering for him, because they felt betrayed, the MSM is finally going to take the gloves off with Obama.

He was in pretty serious trouble with them anyway. But whatever cover they were still willing to provide is now history. Even if he lasts his full term, his agenda's DOA. And any bullshit he tries to pull will get fully scrutinized by a hostile and bitter media. Lover-scorned and all that....

It's a good day to be an American, that's for sure!

Posted by: NukemHill at May 14, 2013 11:24 AM (7WLzC)

256 I disagree completely with this. IMO, impeachment is the power Congress has to counter the Executive. The system is set up so that any two branches can gang up on the third and thwart them. It's a completely political process, and rightly so, from a balance of powers perspective.

Congress can counter any action by a president if it is unified. It has far, far more tools that are more effective than impeachment.

Impeachment is not political and not intended to be used as a political tool - a Dem-majority congress can not impeach a Republican just because it feels like it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2013 11:25 AM (ZSnCv)

257 The AP story may be the one that is key here though. Just as Benghazi appeared to "grow legs" when Carney's bullshit was threatening to shred what was left of the MSM's credibility, this perceived attack on the self created hallowed ground of the press may find the press retaliating by actually doing their jobs on the other stories. They may tie them together in interesting ways as well. I would love to see them actual let Rand Paul explain Austrian School Economics as it pertains to what Sebelius is doing and Obamacare compared to free markets.

Posted by: Donavo nPfeiffer at May 14, 2013 11:26 AM (jBIzT)

258 Illinois Reveiw reports today that as long ago as 2009 before they would approve their tax exempt status the IRS wanted directors of Coalition for Liffe of Iowa to pledge under penalties of perjury that they would never picket outside of Planned Parenthood facilities.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at May 14, 2013 11:26 AM (sojHv)

259
Thorazine for second!

Has Obama's man juice been reduced to pill form yet? If so, I'm going with that. If not, and Bette has been drinking straight from the tap....so to speak...I don't believe that's grounds for immediate disqualification.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 14, 2013 11:27 AM (0IhFx)

260 Four U. S. troops killed by a road side bomb in A-stan today.
God bless them and comfort their poor families. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (lVPtV)

Bring them home NOW
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2013 11:02 AM (9Bj8R)


I remember when that was the siren call of the left - you know, back before dissent became the Highest Form of Treason.

I guess they're back to being "baby killers" again.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 14, 2013 11:27 AM (zF6Iw)

261 The media's goal is to get another Dem president after Obama, Obama reputation is now disposable (they know the GOP would never impeach, and even if they did it would still be a Dem (Biden) as Prez.) None of the scandals the MSM is suddenly interested in covering affect Hillary. The other scandals serve to push Benghazi, which could affect her run for President, off the front page. Sorry to be so cynical, but I really think that's what's going on here. I can't believe the MSM has suddenly developed a concern about their reputation for fairness.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at May 14, 2013 11:30 AM (DLUX7)

262 Impeachment is not political and not intended to be used as a political tool - a Dem-majority congress can not impeach a Republican just because it feels like it.

We'll just have to disagree. They can if they are willing to pay the political price. Just like in International Law, there is what is, and what ought. Power politics is always about the same question, how many divisions can you bring.

Posted by: toby928 at May 14, 2013 11:30 AM (evdj2)

263 typical, The WH is Never responsible for anything.
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I wonder what all them czars be doin'.

Posted by: RioBravo at May 14, 2013 11:31 AM (eEfYn)

264
march of the half black frogs
orange jumpsuit day
ankle bracelets for all

Posted by: phil at May 14, 2013 11:31 AM (lB/5N)

265 . I'd put Fast and Furious second b/c of body count and POTUS responsibility as face of the US internationally.


And because of the absolute proof that the POTUS was involved in Fast and Furious: The Stimulus he wrote financed it, and THE POTUS HAD TO CHANGE THE POLICY OF THE BATFE IN ORDER FOR FAST AND FURIOUS TO OCCUR


By the way as far as scandals go Reverend Wright and the Black Panther intimidation squad are peeking out from under the bus. Gangwalker is also waving "Hi". Say maybe the MFM could find Obamao's drug dealer while they're at it. Maybe the LA Times could release that video tape they're sitting on.


Posted by: An Observation at May 14, 2013 11:32 AM (ylhEn)

266 I think the AP scandal, while it doesn't have legs, is more important then it looks on the surface. Certainly, most likely the Administration did everything legally in gathering that data, but now the AP is coming to grips with the abusive boyfriend that is the Messiah. It not longer those "filthy right wingers" feeling the sting, it's their own ass on the line. They may not acknowledge that this administartion is as bad as we are claiming, but they now have conclusive proof from personal experience that Obama is not as angelic as they thought he was. Whereas Clinton was a cad, they're discovering Obama is a shark and that has tremendous value.

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at May 14, 2013 11:40 AM (MlqTY)

267 That's how I see the AP story, too, a concerted effort to spook anybody that might leak.

Any. body.


Absolute means to absolute fear and absolute revenge for any kind of anyone who says anything like the truth to any reporter.


Of COURSE they are not looking to protect national security by finding the leaker. It's a pretext with an immediate and longer-run practical purpose.

The first is to punish the AP for getting out ahead of Obamy's story and Obamy's best spin with best-for Obamy timing...

The second to have a tighter grip on methods and means of information flow to the AP, and to get back at anyone at all who has or would or could cross them.

Posted by: SarahW at May 14, 2013 11:51 AM (LYwCh)

268 fundamental transformation tipping point in 3... 2...1...

Posted by: vikings fan at May 14, 2013 11:51 AM (7alS3)

269
I like the scorecard idea, but this was kind of inadequate.


First of all, it completely missed the notion - one that would hit home withanyone - that our people were apparently abandoned in the field. The military angle is still very much under investigation - we really don't know whether troops could have arrived to help in time, except we DO know that there were a few in Tripoli who were literally about to get on a plane, who were told to stand down. There are teams that are supposed to have a 4 hr response time, but they were not even called. The idea that the military couldn't have had any kind of response is BS. Secondly, people don't like to be lied to, and they might be waking up to the obvious fact thatthey are STILL being handed out a string of outrageously obvious lies. So the Benghazi bit is pretty inadequate.


The list could get pretty long, but Fast and Furious has even resulted in the first cabinet member in history being held in contempt of Congress, along with an illegal invocation of executive privilege. Then there were the illegal recess appointments without a recess. But how about the "historic" lawsuit(s?) against the DHS, where her employees are suing because they're being told not to follow the law?

Posted by: Optimizer at May 14, 2013 12:16 PM (Mxt9o)

270 What about all the loans to green companies and also re-arranging who got ownership of GM bypassing the investors

Posted by: mkn at May 14, 2013 12:20 PM (SXu8/)

Posted by: boudicabpi at May 14, 2013 12:27 PM (kuXv2)

272 It appears the IRS was harassing pro-life organizations from the earliest days of the Obama administration. The Coalition for Life of Iowa reports that when it sought yax exempt status in 2009 the IRS asked a lot of intrusive questions and also demanded the directors all sign statements, under penalty of
perjury, that they will not picket or protest or organize others to
picket or protest outside of Planned Parenthood. They got the help of the Thomas More Society of Chicago, a public interest law firm, and the IRS backed of and granted them 501 (c)(3) status.





Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at May 14, 2013 12:34 PM (X2SbM)

273
The scorecard idea is a great one and we should all keep a copy in our wallet for the next election.
But there is one overriding point that I want to make. There was a time when I thought that our elected leaders, some of whom have differing political ideals than my own, would always do what was intrinsically right no matter the political consequences. Of course they would lean towards their own political nature but "right" and "truth" always come first.
This scorecard is an incomplete list of lies and deceit all motivated by political ideology to the detriment of our way of life. The problem is systemic. The people in this administration are a collection of political hacks with one goal, to "Fundamentally change the United States of America" and the ends justify the means.
Shame, shame on all of them.

Posted by: TheOtherJay at May 14, 2013 12:34 PM (nojhZ)

274 "...Of course they would lean towards their own political nature but "right" and "truth" always come first..."

Posted by: TheOtherJay at May 14, 2013 12:34 PM (nojhZ)

This viewpoint is valid only if the definitions of 'right' and 'truth' are mutually agreed-upon. If you believe in concepts such as 'right' and 'truth' and the other guy thinks 'right' and 'truth' are archaic social constructs devised by an oppressive, capitalistpatriarchy to oppress the unprivileged Other, then you've got a problem.

Posted by: troyriser at May 14, 2013 12:45 PM (vtiE6)

275 The maker of the film that nobody sawIS STIILL IN JAIL as a political prisoner. That makes it a legal sandal

Posted by: Avi at May 14, 2013 12:54 PM (Gx3Fe)

276 ".... If you believe in concepts such as 'right' and 'truth' and the other guy thinks 'right' and 'truth' are archaic social constructs devised by an oppressive, capitalistpatriarchy to oppress the unprivileged Other, then you've got a problem."Posted by: troyriser at May 14, 2013 12:45 PM (vtiE6)Well put. "Houston, we have a problem."

Posted by: TheOtherJay at May 14, 2013 01:20 PM (nojhZ)

277 I agree the IRS scandal should be at the top of the list. This is rank political repression and the face of tyranny. These kinds of tactics are straight out of the Stalin playbook.

Posted by: Blake at May 14, 2013 02:11 PM (e+hz7)

278 You forgot the EPA scandal. Just shove it in the glovebox and we'll get back to it shortly.

Posted by: Mr_Fastbucks at May 14, 2013 02:32 PM (b67KU)

279


I
am going to outline a theory on Benghazi that I have not heard from anyone but
I think someone should look into it. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I have
problems looking at the Benghazi attack and response and logically coming up
with anything else.




First, the real questions that need to be asked are:


1.
Why was Benghazi embassy not prepared for attack when they had told the state
department a number of times that their security was poor?


2.
Why was the military/CIA not prepared to respond when the embassy was attacked?
Even more to the point, why were multiple responders told to stand down?




The Obama administration's response to these questions have been inadequate and
deflecting when you realize what has been going on in the Middle East and Northern
Africa over the past 2 years. Everyone has already given the genius label to
both Obama and Hillary Clinton over the past 10 years so I don't think they
could realistically be expected to be unprepared for an event like this to have
happened.




There is only one logical response to both the questions above-----it was a
premeditated event. They had expected it and most probably were involved in it.
They were setting up their own "October/November Surprise." It is
difficult to remember what was going on during the election back in 2012 but
the economy was struggling and Romney was gaining ground. Is it possible the
Obama administration set up the attack with the intention of the kidnapping of
the US ambassador so that they could later set up a rescue event?




I think it is quite possible and probably the only logical answer to all the
questions around Benghazi.


Why
were they unprepared even after they asked for more security?


Why
were multiple rescue teams told to stand down?


Why
was military unprepared for incidents on the 9/11 anniversary?


Why
were CIA officers Woods and Doherty told to stand down?


Why
has the response by the administration been so botched?


Why
were the President and Secretary of State out of touch during this entire
series of events as if they couldn't be bothered? They micromanage everything
else.


Where
were the President’s on-staff photographers taking pictures of the President
making heroic decisions?




There are a lot more questions but the only logical response is that it was a
planned attack where they wanted to capture the US ambassador and later free
them in some type of either diplomatic or military mission. The Obama
administration's response has been so poor because they have more to cover up
than just ineptitude. No one really believes that they are that inept. The
problem occurred when CIA employees Woods and Doherty decided to disobey the
order to stand down and they went to help the Ambassador. What was supposed to
be a surrender and kidnapping of the US ambassador turned into a serious
firefight which led to the death of the ambassador and the further attack on
the CIA annex.




I believe this theory needs to be investigated because it is far worse than
just the ineptitude that has been portrayed. Another good question is who was
really responsible for the Benghazi attack and have they been apprehended? Why
the lack of info on the attackers. We knew everything about the 9/11 hijackers
within a few months of their attack and yet there is still enormous confusion
about the Benghazi attackers.




Let me know what you think.




John M

Posted by: JohnM at May 14, 2013 03:13 PM (XygAY)

280 I believe the president is responsible for the IRS scandal. There aren't any direct links but his rhetoric since before his first election caused this. He has spun an atmosphere of hate from the people who cling to their gun and bible, his calling those who disagree with him on immigration as enemies. He has been complaining about all those who oppose his benevolent whims. The president and his surrogates in the press have hit this theme for over four years.

When Congresswoman Giffords was shot very quickly it was the rights fault for making a commercial "targeting" Giffords. Didn't the president say we needed to watch our tone. Palin was smeared from top to bottom over that commercial. Yet we have five years of the MSM (called Democratic Operatives with bylines by Instapundit) attacking and demonizing the right.

Posted by: i4cu2 at May 14, 2013 06:19 PM (piPOg)

281 The most important thing is what this'll do to Obamas' relationship with the MSM...Wither the AP goest...

Posted by: Frank Rosato at May 14, 2013 08:42 PM (SXvBJ)

282 May the sh*tstormcome down on him as he so richly deserves.

Posted by: Rachel at May 15, 2013 06:33 AM (d0PNL)

283 Least we forget, that which we had to pass in order to read WILL add 16,000 ADDITIONAL SS IRS agents and you know that will REALLY end up being 32,000 to 48,000 ...

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