The Only Battle Fought on American Soil in WWII: The Battle of Attu

May 11-30, 1943.

The only battle of WWII fought on American soil, the Japanese forces likely moved on the Aleutians as a diversion from the battle that took place at Midway. But they took and held Attu and Kiska for a year. American forces moved on them to retake the islands in 1943. Sixty* Seventy years ago we took them back.

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A young Army private was awarded the Medal of Honor in this fight. His citation:

In the face of severe hostile machinegun, rifle, and mortar fire, Pvt. Martinez, an automatic rifleman, rose to his feet and resumed his advance. Occasionally he stopped to urge his comrades on. His example inspired others to follow. After a most difficult climb, Pvt. Martinez eliminated resistance from part of the enemy position by BAR fire and hand grenades, thus assisting the advance of other attacking elements. This success only partially completed the action.

I can't add anything to that.


*maths are hard, thank you profligatewaste.

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 09:13 PM



Comments

1 First?

Posted by: scampydog at May 12, 2013 09:15 PM (2SXc9)

2 You mean 70 years

Posted by: profligatewaste at May 12, 2013 09:16 PM (uyl03)

3 Except that 1943 is 70 years ago.

Posted by: Doc Rochester at May 12, 2013 09:16 PM (6R9pi)

4
My uncle Frank Callow was stationed here in WW2.
I do not know if he took part in this battle or not.
God Bless you Uncle Frank.

Posted by: Tom_Ohio at May 12, 2013 09:16 PM (Zz48T)

5 Other American territories on which WW2 battles were fought: Hawaiian Islands (raid on Pearl Harbor), Philippine Islands, etc.

Posted by: Observer at May 12, 2013 09:17 PM (lw5+8)

6 Watched a special on military channel a few yrs back on this. Think the Japanese casualties were near 100%

Posted by: scampydog at May 12, 2013 09:19 PM (2SXc9)

7 These posts make up for your lack of understanding of the G - Spot .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 12, 2013 09:19 PM (TQOZk)

8 Also a shot pile of frostbite.

Posted by: scampydog at May 12, 2013 09:20 PM (2SXc9)

9 It's still uncertain the Japan was behind the invasion. It could have been a spontaneous reaction to the release of the The Philadelphia Story. Or something.

Last one out of the executive branch, please turn the lights off.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2013 09:20 PM (1qpwX)

10 >> These posts make up for your lack of understanding of the G - Spot .

I don't believe in those or girl orgasms.

Myths.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 12, 2013 09:20 PM (pUqSw)

11 By that , they are amazing . Keep them coming .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 12, 2013 09:21 PM (TQOZk)

12 Perhaps the word "infantry" and/or ground should have been utilized in the title. "Soil" implies but does not clarify.

That being said, I'm still a dick.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 09:22 PM (7gwGw)

13 Curveballs are an optical illusion, you know.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2013 09:25 PM (1qpwX)

14 They shelled Sarah Palin's house.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 12, 2013 09:25 PM (5wHPS)

15 Look at me talking to myself.

...I am a shame upon my Mother's non-posting, still-alive soul.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 09:27 PM (7gwGw)

16

1943 was a long time ago.

Posted by: Jay Carney at May 12, 2013 09:27 PM (D00cy)

17 Curveballs are an optical illusion, you know.


Posted by: Circa

You, sir... Physics are...

There is nothing...

That's not permitted, you know, legally. Something about state law, dude.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 09:30 PM (7gwGw)

18 Didn't the Germans also land a U-boat in NJ and 7 or 8 spies/infiltrators were detained and executed. That is an enemy action no? The Germans were very active along the east coast if I remember correctly.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 12, 2013 09:31 PM (jucos)

19 Little-known side story. A small piece of high ground on the northern extreme of Attu known as the Deetu knoll was the scene of a pivotal event in the recapture of the island. This marked the first wartime use of prototype robots. It is sometimes referred to as the Battle of Attu Deetu.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:31 PM (pxDth)

20 What difference does it make at this point!?!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 12, 2013 09:31 PM (r0+v0)

21 6 Watched a special on military channel a few yrs back on this. Think the Japanese casualties were near 100%

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Pretty typical for land battles against the Japanese on the islands, actually. Very few prisoners were taken, and most of those who were captured decided that they'd rather not return home due to the shame.

Posted by: junior at May 12, 2013 09:33 PM (sHIXY)

22 The Japs also attacked LA.

Posted by: Wild Bill Kelso at May 12, 2013 09:35 PM (5wHPS)

23 What's this about Kucinich?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 12, 2013 09:35 PM (V1ZIU)

24 Posted by: Wild Bill Kelso at May 12, 2013 09:35 PM (5wHPS)

Completely underrated movie that I have always loved.

"That is the craziest son of a bitch I ever saw."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2013 09:36 PM (1qpwX)

25 We also fought bitter battles on the American soil of Wake Island and Guam. The last Japanese soldier on Guam did not surrender until the early 1970s.

Posted by: Tantor at May 12, 2013 09:36 PM (k33iX)

26 The only battle of WWII fought on American soil

umm, Philippines? we owned it at the time

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:39 PM (BBWjt)

27 It is sometimes referred to as the Battle of Attu Deetu.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:31 PM (pxDth)


Barrel, Seamus. Now.

Posted by: Bill H at May 12, 2013 09:40 PM (3sZO1)

28 The only battle of WWII fought on American soil

umm, Philippines? we owned it at the time

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:39 PM (BBWjt)


And Guam. We still own that island.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 12, 2013 09:40 PM (Vk2pI)

29 And Guam. We still own that island.

Until it tips over and sinks!!!!!!

Posted by: Hank Johnson (D) at May 12, 2013 09:41 PM (BBWjt)

30
Really DIT? American soil? Is that because Alaskaand the Aluetianswere territories (or possessions) but Guam, Midway, the Marshall Islands, Hawaii and the Philippines etc...weren't?

Havingsaid that, it was nice to read the citation.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 09:41 PM (LP0Fj)

31 Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 12, 2013 09:31 PM (jucos)

Long Island (NY).

Tried and executed rather quickly.

We didn't fuck around back then.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:42 PM (O6Tmi)

32 I think Dave meant to say "the only battle fought on land that is a part of territory that would become a future US state"

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:42 PM (BBWjt)

33 OT
Low 41 Monday night in southeastern NC.
Bitchez.

Posted by: Christopher Monckton at May 12, 2013 09:43 PM (wY9V8)

34 Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:42 PM (BBWjt)

Exactly.

The convolutions of the cobloggers' minds are a wonderful thing to behold.

That, and Dave is undoubtedly hammered.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:43 PM (O6Tmi)

35 Well Chemjeff...except for Hawaii

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 09:43 PM (LP0Fj)

36 Barrel? After such a long run for a short slide? I appeal for leniency.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:44 PM (pxDth)

37 Posted by: Christopher Monckton at May 12, 2013 09:43 PM (wY9V

Northern NJ: Low of 39 tonight, and 36 tomorrow night......

Bitches.

And...fuck you Al Gore.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:45 PM (O6Tmi)

38 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:44 PM (pxDth)

Barrel? He's a rogue judge. Ignore him.

That shit was funny.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:46 PM (O6Tmi)

39 35
Well Chemjeff...except for Hawaii

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 09:43 PM (LP0Fj)

Well that wasn't a "land battle". So I'm still technically right.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:46 PM (BBWjt)

40 From what I have read it was a major fuck up. They build an airfield and tried bombing the japs, fought a battle then invaded an island the Japs had already left.

Not the best and brightest running the show. Wasted a shit load of money and men on nothing. The japs would have been starved out and left. Sort of like the Alaska highway. Throw money at a problem that doesn't exist. US Army ran the country, so they didn't really give a shit what they pissed away.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 09:47 PM (wR+pz)

41 Hey its into May here in North Texas and I can count on o e hand how many days I've had to run the AC. I'm not bitchin; if this glo al warming, I'm all for it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 09:48 PM (LP0Fj)

42 the Japanese forces likely moved on the Aleutians as a diversion from the battle that took place at Midway

My understanding is that it wasn't a diversion. Yamamoto deliberately divided his forces instead of undertaking a full attack on Midway. It, the Aleutian Campaign, was intended to protect the northern flank of the empire.

Pretty stupid move, no? The goal was Midway. Worry about the northern flank later.

Posted by: Argeopagitica at May 12, 2013 09:48 PM (DziRF)

43 >>>Low 41 Monday night in southeastern NC.

Bitchez.

Posted by: Christopher Monckton


Outstanding! Another member of the NC Horde. We'll talk about highly spiritual things...like barbecue, when the thread goes completely OT later.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 09:48 PM (4Mv1T)

44 Shit yeah, 42 in CLT tonight, no A/C Duke power must be pissed.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 09:49 PM (wR+pz)

45 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:31 PM (pxDth)

Attu Brute.

Posted by: esch at May 12, 2013 09:49 PM (9XVgh)

46 So I'm still technically right.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:46 PM (BBWjt)

No, you are correct. There is no "technicality" involved.

Yeah, I've had a few....what of it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:49 PM (O6Tmi)

47 I have to laugh at the quibbling over the title of this post. Seems some readers thought Mother's Day was for nitpicking rather than picnicking.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:49 PM (pxDth)

48 TR this is getting a little creepy. Too many NC morons, I won't use the Tar word.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 09:50 PM (wR+pz)

49
Would this be one of the eight Aluetian islands we recently ceded to Russia?
The ones with the oil-rich sea beds?
Why didn't we at least tap that oil first?
Oh yeah.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at May 12, 2013 09:52 PM (Sptt8)

50 Very good book about the battle: The 1000 Mile War by Brian Garfield. Detailed but quite readable.

Posted by: RDS at May 12, 2013 09:52 PM (YAGV/)

51 Another member of the NC Horde.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 09:48 PM (4Mv1T)

So....how do you communicate with the other NCers when you aren't on AOSHQ?

Notes written in crayon? Cans and lots of string?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:52 PM (O6Tmi)

52 @48. Creepy? Hell, we're just well represented. And why not.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 09:53 PM (4Mv1T)

53 Thousands of polar bear refuges filled the roads.

Posted by: eman at May 12, 2013 09:55 PM (ZOGUz)

54 So....how do you communicate with the other NCers when you aren't on AOSHQ?

Notes written in crayon? Cans and lots of string?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:52 PM (O6Tmi)

Secret decoder ring. Premium NC members only, sorry Charlie.....


http://tinyurl.com/crkfjoa

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 09:55 PM (wR+pz)

55
Ha! So, CBD if no land warfare is involved its not a battle? I think the 8th Air Force over Europeor the Pacific Fleet in the Coral Sea might disagree.

Here, have another drink. Slides over a Glenmorangie on the rocks....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 09:55 PM (4cA6A)

56 CBD- You realize that Billy Bob is standing right over there. He JUST counted nearly 100 guns at his house. His. Fucking. House. Lost of course in the water hazard on #7 at Myers Park Country Club.

But I bought two more this week.

Here's what we want, if you don't want your ass shot off. And that's an NC barbecue thread. East versus west. And you better get it right.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 09:56 PM (4Mv1T)

57 My dad was born on May 8, 1945. His name is Victor.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at May 12, 2013 09:56 PM (QR2k5)

58 Here, have another drink. Slides over a Glenmorangie on the rocks....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 09:55 PM (4cA6A)

Wow, you have no idea what you are talking about and I ought to.....

What?

Glenmorangie?

Okay!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:57 PM (O6Tmi)

59 Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at May 12, 2013 09:52 PM (Sptt

Good thing Obama is more flexible now after the election. Goodness knows what else he'll give away to his Commie or muz buddies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2013 09:57 PM (Cnqmv)

60 Charlie, sunglasses?

http://tinyurl.com/cjoogr5

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 09:57 PM (wR+pz)

61 Attu Brute.
Posted by: esch at May 12, 2013 09:49 PM (9XVgh)


*****

Nice. Right back at tu.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 09:58 PM (pxDth)

62 Nice statue


http://tinyurl.com/c47gafv

Posted by: RWC at May 12, 2013 09:59 PM (Wl/Ht)

63
Actually, I just read it was Kissinger under Ford who gave away the Aluetians.
Still sux, but I can take the hat off to sleep!

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at May 12, 2013 10:00 PM (Sptt8)

64 I have to laugh at the quibbling over the title of this post.

Well, it is important.

As of 1940, both Attu and Manila were just as much sovereign US soil as Boston and Albuquerque are.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 10:00 PM (BBWjt)

65 TR, speaking of guns, I think I am going to score for that Luger I passed up, if I can figure out what the real price should be. Package deal with the other five I bought. I know the guy wants them out of his house, so I am just going to low ball it and see what happens.

Always wanted a luger.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:00 PM (wR+pz)

66 Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 09:56 PM (4Mv1T)

BBQ thread?

Very complicated.

Eatern vs. Western NC would require a thousand comments.

Add in KC vs. TX vs. TN vs. SC vs. MS vs. the upstarts in CA and NYC and MD and Chicago and you will have a conflagration.

But.....I'll write one, and if Ace and the cobloggers are too hungover to post next weekend, I'll sneak it in.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 10:01 PM (O6Tmi)

67 @62

Is that the guy at Bragg?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:01 PM (wR+pz)

68 Well, it is important.

As of 1940, both Attu and Manila were just as much sovereign US soil as Boston and Albuquerque are.


Posted by: chemjeff
_________________________________________________________
Words and phrases should have meaning. Historical and otherwise.

...I promise not to stop being a dick,

-Slappy

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 10:02 PM (7gwGw)

69 @67

No, that's Iron Mike I am thinking about.


http://tinyurl.com/ce8p3cl


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:03 PM (wR+pz)

70 @66

We are just talking about REAL BBQ, not that TX shit.

That would mean East vs West NC.

We want to talk about Memphis and KC? Then we will have a division II thread.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:04 PM (wR+pz)

71 Two game 7's tomorrow: Rangers vs. Capitals and Leafs vs. Bruins.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at May 12, 2013 10:05 PM (QR2k5)

72 Can we please have a baseball thread?

Hockey and gaming are quality activities, but THIS IS AMERICA, is it not?

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 10:05 PM (7gwGw)

73 So, we've apparently determined that most of what DiT wrote was wrong.


And that CBD is drunk. And an asshole.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 12, 2013 10:05 PM (GEICT)

74
And here CBD, have a good Mexican cigar too. Unwraps one and passes the cutter and the lighter.


One of my friends in the Corps had a neighbor who fought in Europe and later in Korea. I loved listening to him tell stories of his time in the Army.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 10:05 PM (EYfcP)

75 We have been embiggened!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2013 10:05 PM (Cnqmv)

76 Didn't realize there were this many NC morons...

Posted by: Emdoc at May 12, 2013 10:06 PM (oe4oA)

77 And that CBD is drunk. And an asshole.


So you are saying your not either? Slackard.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:06 PM (wR+pz)

78 >>>Eastern vs. Western NC would require a thousand comments.

And it would be epic. It could get the next civil war started. Has to happen somewhere. Last one was a Citadel cadet in Charleston lobbing a large round at the Feds out in the bay on Sumter.

Why not the second one start at the HQ?

And you realize it's your turn to lose.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:06 PM (4Mv1T)

79 And here CBD, have a good Mexican cigar too. Unwraps one and passes the cutter and the lighter.



Is that sorta like getting the best vodka that comes in a plastic bottle?


Go Dominican, go Cuban or go home.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 12, 2013 10:07 PM (GEICT)

80 Didn't realize there were this many NC morons...

Posted by: Emdoc at May 12, 2013 10:06 PM (oe4oA)


I will be corrected swiftly if I'm wrong, but I believe that the much-loved and much-feared AlextheChick is in NC too.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at May 12, 2013 10:07 PM (QR2k5)

81 Now that there are no Blockbusters, how does one see an old movie like 1941? Is Netflix the only alternative?

Posted by: Wild Bill Kelso at May 12, 2013 10:07 PM (5wHPS)

82 So you are saying your not either? Slackard.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:06 PM (wR+pz)



Not drunk. I got shit drunk friday night. That put me off for a bit.


But yes, I am most assuredly an asshole.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 12, 2013 10:07 PM (GEICT)

83 I believe the first army units sent to Attu had been training for desert warfare in North Africa.

Posted by: Jose Wales at May 12, 2013 10:08 PM (lPbS1)

84 I will be corrected swiftly if I'm wrong, but I believe that the much-loved and much-feared AlextheChick is in NC too.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at May 12, 2013 10:07 PM (QR2k5)




Yup. She is.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 12, 2013 10:08 PM (GEICT)

85 @82

One out of two is not bad.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:08 PM (wR+pz)

86 "And it would be epic. It could get the next civil
war started. Has to happen somewhere. Last one was a Citadel cadet in
Charleston lobbing a large round at the Feds out in the bay on Sumter.

Why not the second one start at the HQ?

And you realize it's your turn to lose."


Posted by: Tobacco Road
___________________________________________________
We could make it into an "Axis and Allies" -type territorial struggle. Much like media coverage nowadays, it could be a 'roll-of-the-dice' type thing.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 10:09 PM (7gwGw)

87 And that CBD is drunk. And an asshole.

Er. Drunk and an asshole is the definition of the Moron Lifestyle, isn't it?

Posted by: filbert at May 12, 2013 10:09 PM (7vimm)

88 Drunk and an asshole is the definition of the Moron Lifestyle, isn't it?

Posted by: filbert at May 12, 2013 10:09 PM (7vimm)



A most excellent point.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 12, 2013 10:11 PM (GEICT)

89 Battle of Hawaii. One of the only American actions in Asia during WWII. My Uncle fought in the Battle Of the Somme on Moloka'i. Fixed bayonets and horse charges abound!

Posted by: TFG Constitutional Scholar/Military Genius at May 12, 2013 10:11 PM (Wl/Ht)

90 It appears this is now the ONT.

For a later date we need to have a NC Moron roll call and meet up. Most of you live in RDU if I can figure shit out, but I know at least three morons live in CLT.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:11 PM (wR+pz)

91 BB- Get the Luger. You clearly print money in a basement you say you don't have in Eastover. Get the damn thing. And let me shoot it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:12 PM (4Mv1T)

92
"Go Dominican, go Cuban or go home."

Blah blah blah....All those guys who left Cuba and went elsewhere ended up in Mexico down around Vera Cruz. I brought back a handful that havecongac infused in the wrapper and have a smooth, mellowburn. And they cost about $6-8 eachcompared to spending a sawbuck for a name on a ring.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 10:13 PM (4Vr+0)

93 I am leaning that way for sure. Just want to figure out if it a real gun and not a parts gun.

I just discovered my P-38, which I was told was a parts gun is not, so all those little Nazi stamps on it make it more valuable.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:14 PM (wR+pz)

94 I am not a crook.

Posted by: Prez'nit Milhous at May 12, 2013 10:14 PM (vbh31)

95 And that CBD is drunk. And an asshole.

Er. Drunk and an asshole is the definition of the Moron Lifestyle, isn't it?

Posted by: filbert at May 12, 2013 10:09 PM (7vimm)


Also, lack of pants...

Posted by: The Political Hat, Pants-free at May 12, 2013 10:15 PM (Vk2pI)

96 67 @62

Is that the guy at Bragg?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:01 PM (wR+pz)

No, it's Martinez. Statue located in Lincoln Park, CO.

Posted by: RWC at May 12, 2013 10:15 PM (Wl/Ht)

97 Did someone say lack of pants? You can not make this shit up.



http://tinyurl.com/c9f2wk5

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:16 PM (wR+pz)

98 I believe the first army units sent to Attu had been training for desert warfare in North Africa.
Posted by: Jose Wales at May 12, 2013 10:08 PM (lPbS1)
--------------------------------------------------------
This is true. They were also not prepared to spend and extended time in the Arctic and many casualties were die to frostbite. The native Aluet (sp) population provided both scouts and soldiers that helped save the American effort. Whoever said upthread that the leadership was substandard was correct. Real F Troop material.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 12, 2013 10:17 PM (jucos)

99 Nice. Right back at tu.

Heh.

Keep this up and we're gonna shame us.

Posted by: esch at May 12, 2013 10:17 PM (9XVgh)

100 BB- We have C Monckton down east here tonight, we have Golfman in SE NC, EC, GGE and I are
in the RTP area. You in Mecklenburg County. ATC is somewhere unknown in NC.

There are more lurking I know.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:18 PM (4Mv1T)

101 Before retaking Attu and Kiska there was the Battle of the Komandorskie Islands. (sp?)

The only daylight gunnery fight between the IJN and the USN in WWII. Both sides withdrew; which was a good thing for the old USS Salt Lake City; 'Swayback Maru' was in a tough spot there.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at May 12, 2013 10:18 PM (gmoEG)

102 @100

We need a secret hand shake! or code, like fuck you?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:19 PM (wR+pz)

103 I have been deluged with requests to finish the story of the rogue steer that came to be on our land yesterday - Vlad the Impaler. And by deluged, I mean 2 people asked me. And even they didn't seem, you know, more than mildly interested. But they were 'ettes so I will comply.



Note to city people: this is a story about un-people from Jesusland and livestock. No lattes were consumed, no hipsters were present, and no one had sex with the livestock. You may want to skip it.




Note to people with cattle operations: the cattle related part of this story is what you would call "an hour on Tuesday morning". The only enjoyment you may get out of this is laughing at our ineptness. You may want to skip it.



If I may suggest mood music, this is what was going through my head while we were running around like idiots. I hadn't thought of this song since 1986:



http://tinyurl.com/24asmnr



Because I am lazy, here is the first post I made yesterday:




*******************************************



109 OT - but funneh. I was out doing some chore this morning and car drives down our driveway. Turns out they are neighbors from about a mile away. Lady gets

out and asks me if I have seen a cow. Turns out they had a steer get loose and it was last seen running towards our land. She gave me her cell and her

husbands cell and I told her I would take the 4 wheeler back into the woods to look for him. Found him right away in one of our deer food plots. He is not

just a steer - he is a Texas Longhorn steer. Complete with Muad'dib ventilating horns. I named him Vlad the Impaler after the third time he charged me and head butted the 4 wheeler.



Vlad apparently does NOT want to go home. We have spent the last 3 hours chasing him all around our 65 acres. We eventually got him chased into one of our fenced pastures. High fives all around. Vlad was cool with the pasture until he realized he was trapped. Then he trotted over to the fence - and then trotted right through it. Electrified and everything. Vlad the Impaler sliced like an F-in hammer.



So now my neighbor has 5 guys coming on horses - apparently they can throw ropes too. Another guy has a tranquilizer gun. I'll be on the ATV with my son on foot. Be back later - I think.

Posted by: Muad'dib - Taiga Cowboy at May 11, 2013 03:32 PM (SCTXH)

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 12, 2013 10:19 PM (SCTXH)

104 Dead giveaway.

Posted by: Prez'nit Milhous at May 12, 2013 10:20 PM (vbh31)

105 @102

Oh, I didn't finish my code word, like "fuck you Carolina".

There.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:20 PM (wR+pz)

106 @103

So WTF happened? Did you get the damn thing?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 10:23 PM (wR+pz)

107 Here is the conclusion of the Vlad the Impaler:



We left Vlad the Impaler to settle down in the thick woods for about 2 hours while my neighbor formed up his posse. While they were gathering, I scouted Vlad until I saw him bed down in some really thick cover in the woods - on the edge of a pasture. Apparently, making us run around and look stupid for 3 hours wears a steer out. Who knew?



My neighbor finally came back over with 2 guys and a girl with horses plus 3 other guys on foot. One of the these guys had a tranquilizer gun like you used to see on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. That added to me and my son. Also, wives came to point and laugh. The posse's plan was to send the cavalry forward in a glorious charge to take Vlad by surprise. The problem with that plan is that Vlad was wisely staying in the thickest, nastiest crap he could get into. No way a horse would get through that. I asked Dart Man how close he needed to get to tranq Vlad - and he said 20 yards. I proposed the plan that I guide Dart Man in that close on foot - which was possible because he was bedded down and the winds favored a sneak from the woods side.



So off me and Dart Man go on foot. About a half mile hike. We were followed at a distance by all the other people and laughing wives. Horses stayed in the trailer. We did a real nice stalk and got to within 20 yards. I pointed at Vlad and made the shooty sign with my hand. Dart Man indicated that it was too thick to shoot. I pointed at the ground and made the mime for low crawling. He looked at me like I was coming too. Uh, no. So Dart Man low crawls, through the mud mind you, and gets to within maybe 5 yards of Vlad. The steer finally figured out that he wasn't alone and stood up. Dart Man pegged him in the right shoulder perfectly.



Game over, right? Nope. Although they knew exactly how much Vlad weighed (613 lbs - they just bought him), they apparently didn't give him enough juice to knock him down or at least make him docile enough to handle. So off he goes to the races. Again. The drugs had some effect though. Instead of racing back in forth in the thick stuff, he headed towards the open land near the house. Where horses can be used. Also, he was groggy and would lay down every once in a while until a person got close. Then back on hoof. So we have this gaggle of people trying to chase Vlad again - now trying to keep him from getting to the road where he could injure someone in a car crash.



The head horse guy yells to someone to get the cutting horse out. If you have never seen a cutting horse, here is a vid:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCRzUjn4I7I



I have only seen them at rodeos - never in real life use. The lead guy gets on his trained cutting horse and starts to confront Vlad in the open ground near the house. While he is doing that, the 2 other horse peeps get around behind the steer with lariats. Eventually, Vlad is so worn out from trying to get away from the cutting horse that he lays down. The 2 other riders threw ropes around his horns and spaced out perfectly to put tension on him from either side. These folks rode beautifully and knew what they were doing. A pleasure to watch. They towed him over to a trailer, winched him in and took him home. Total elapsed posse time: 2 hours.


Vlad the Impaler gets to grow to market weight this summer and no humans were injured in all the comedy. We lost a day but I bet my son and I will laugh about this for the rest of our lives. Good, unexpected fun.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 12, 2013 10:23 PM (SCTXH)

108 I usually agree with Mr. Cochran, but are you effin kidding me?
Nothing comes close to Texas BBQ, and I'll share a few Nicaraguan cigars should change your mind about tinny flavored Dominicans and overrated Cubans.

Posted by: MikeinMontana at May 12, 2013 10:23 PM (ZX0Je)

109 Maud'dib, I'm an 'ette and I'm very interested in what happened.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at May 12, 2013 10:23 PM (QR2k5)

110 Lurking

Posted by: rdumoron at May 12, 2013 10:23 PM (aUQgu)

111 Posted by: Muad'dib at May 12, 2013 10:19 PM (SCTXH)

*****

I'm not an ette, but please go on.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 10:24 PM (pxDth)

112 @105 Give 'em the stink eye, while spiting out, "You Moron."

Dead giveaway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:25 PM (4Mv1T)

113 I'm headed over to the Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball thread.

It is NOT because I don't believe in you morons. I love you guys.

It is simply because there is no baseball here for me to absorb.

The MSM media fails baseball, as well. They think Susan G. Komen and pink bats are the solution.

"Awareness" replaces action.

I LOVE Jackie Robinson day. That's American Quality.

Pink bats and wristbands for a shitbox that donates 34 cents out of every dollar is crap. I'm "aware". My Mom doesn't care.

Go Cleveland. Chief Wahoo isn't racist, you are.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 12, 2013 10:25 PM (7gwGw)

114 A brigade of Canadians was there too, Dave in Texas.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2013 10:26 PM (mGBy8)

115 Vlad The BBQ . . . coming soon to an AoSHQ near you.

Posted by: filbert at May 12, 2013 10:27 PM (7vimm)

116 bbq from BarbecueLodge on Wilkenson Blvd the best

Posted by: rdumoron at May 12, 2013 10:29 PM (aUQgu)

117 Aww. So sweet on Mothers Day.


http://tinyurl.com/bozc7nx


Warms the heart.

Posted by: RWC at May 12, 2013 10:29 PM (Wl/Ht)

118 Ah. @110. Another NC Moron. Um hmm.

You know. One of the oldest malitias in the US, commisioned by none other than Geo. Washington, was/is in Fayetteville NC.

This could be the NC AoS HQ Light Infantry.

Drunk, stupid, and pantless is no way to go through life, soldier.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:29 PM (4Mv1T)

119 32 I think Dave meant to say "the only battle fought on land that is a part of territory that would become a future US state"

I sank a German U-Boat off the coast of Puerto Rico. Is that gonna count once it becomes a state?

Posted by: Ernest Hemingway at May 12, 2013 10:29 PM (tOkJB)

120 I logged in to brag about being soo happy about get a dremel for mothers day..DIT texas brought me back to rality. Thank you Dave. My Gpa was one of the first frog men in WWII. Thank you for that. Listening to kid rock lets roll

Posted by: Infidel at May 12, 2013 10:30 PM (gqEUi)

121 Is Vlad from Vladoflivestock?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 12, 2013 10:31 PM (pxDth)

122 Lots closer to RDU than CLT, but hey, a moron meetup? Count me in...

Posted by: Emdoc at May 12, 2013 10:31 PM (oe4oA)

123 'The guys played soccer in the rocks while the kids played barefoot and the donkey watched."

https://twitter.com/CoachNagy/status/333770276540149761

That's one HELL of a straight line, there.

Posted by: filbert at May 12, 2013 10:31 PM (7vimm)

124
Carolina BBQ is pretty good and I would never say anything bad about pork, but beef...well let's just say its the reason BBQ was invented.

Now about those cigars...we should get together and conduct more evaluation. Over scotch or brandy.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 10:32 PM (4cA6A)

125 >>>bbq from BarbecueLodge on Wilkenson Blvd the best

Wait. Just wait. You are an Eastern NC RDU Moron, extolling the virtues of the sacred Q, that is located west of Lexington NC??

{it's okay...I like it too}

I just like the flame wars.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:32 PM (4Mv1T)

126 108 I usually agree with Mr. Cochran, but are you effin kidding me?
Nothing comes close to Texas BBQ, and I'll share a few Nicaraguan cigars should change your mind about tinny flavored Dominicans and overrated Cubans.

Posted by: MikeinMontana at May 12, 2013 10:23 PM (ZX0Je)




Be glad to take some off your hands. But you'll never convince me about the Cubans. It was like smoking sex, with a hot latin woman.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 12, 2013 10:34 PM (GEICT)

127 Emdoc. Sorry I missed you there. There is a strong RDU moron contingent here.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 12, 2013 10:34 PM (4Mv1T)

128 Sorry Mr Cochran... I retread and realize now that it was that scurrilous Billy Bob that defamed TX BBQ. My apologies.

Posted by: MikeinMontana at May 12, 2013 10:36 PM (IpHyk)

129 Muad'dib, that is very cool

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 10:36 PM (BBWjt)

130
My old unit, 1-17th Inf, fought at Attu, and at Pork Chop Hill in Korea. Yet no one in my chain of command bothered to tell us about these battles, missing an opportunity to build up some additional esprit de corps. Didn't find out about my own unit's history until I did my own research many years later. That still pisses me the fuck off.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2013 10:36 PM (MBqvE)

131 Thousands of polar bear refuges filled the roads.

But they're white so no one today cares.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2013 10:36 PM (mGBy8)

132 Great story, Maud'dib! remind me of that old cowboy song Windy Bill.

Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at May 12, 2013 10:37 PM (/lWM8)

133 But they're white so no one today cares.

Word.

Posted by: Infidel at May 12, 2013 10:38 PM (gqEUi)

134
#5

Other American territories on which WW2 battles were fought: Hawaiian Islands (raid on Pearl Harbor), Philippine Islands, etc.


Posted by: Observer at May 12, 2013 09:17 PM (lw5+


That was quick.A lot of other territories saw a hell of a lot more action than Alaska - 100,000+ dead civilians in PI forgotten...

Posted by: Obamao at May 12, 2013 10:46 PM (JtyGg)

135
"It was like smoking sex, with a hot latin woman."

A good Mexican (or Nicaraguan) then would be like smoking sex witha hot,mature, divorced, Latina.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 12, 2013 10:47 PM (gaOtJ)

136
Wait. Just wait. You are an Eastern NC RDU Moron, extolling the virtues of the sacred Q, that is located west of Lexington NC??

Yea. Born West; live East

Accident of nature. Semper Sic Tyrannis

Posted by: rdumoron at May 12, 2013 10:54 PM (aUQgu)

137 We're being heckled on Twitter by Dan Collins (@vermontaigne):

@aceofspadeshq was so drunk when they invented the TEA Party, none of them recalls

It's a fair cop.

Posted by: filbert at May 12, 2013 11:14 PM (7vimm)

138 Pvt. Martinez. Thank you. thank you ever so much. Made without fear.

Posted by: and irresolute at May 13, 2013 01:00 AM (DBH1h)

139
I'm sorry to use the space. No, actually I'm not...

"
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action with the enemy. Over a period of several days, repeated efforts to drive the enemy from a key defensive position high in the snow-covered precipitous mountains between East Arm Holtz Bay and Chichagof Harbor had failed. On 26 May 1943, troop dispositions were readjusted and a trial coordinated attack on this position by a reinforced battalion was launched. Initially successful, the attack hesitated. In the face of severe hostile machinegun, rifle, and mortar fire, Pvt. Martinez, an automatic rifleman, rose to his feet and resumed his advance. Occasionally he stopped to urge his comrades on. His example inspired others to follow. After a most difficult climb, Pvt. Martinez eliminated resistance from part of the enemy position by BAR fire and hand grenades, thus assisting the advance of other attacking elements. This success only partially completed the action. The main Holtz-Chichagof Pass rose about 150 feet higher, flanked by steep rocky ridges and reached by a snow-filled defile. Passage was barred by enemy fire from either flank and from tiers of snow trenches in front. Despite these obstacles, and knowing of their existence, Pvt. Martinez again led the troops on and up, personally silencing several trenches with BAR fire and ultimately reaching the pass itself. Here, just below the knifelike rim of the pass, Pvt. Martinez encountered a final enemy-occupied trench and as he was engaged in firing into it he was mortally wounded. The pass, however, was taken, and its capture was an important preliminary to the end of organized hostile resistance on the island."

Posted by: and irresolute at May 13, 2013 01:38 AM (DBH1h)

140 Like I said, thanks Joe.

Posted by: and irresolute at May 13, 2013 01:41 AM (DBH1h)

141 Guam, Philippines, politically equal to Alaska at the time. The Chamorros suffered until liberation which is a serious celebration even these days. Why a few years ago the Liberation Day festivities were sponsored by . . . Toyota. The Philippines - same, same, with resistance among the natives until liberation. They're a separate country now, but Brothers and Sisters, you can bet there's a natural relationship very similar to that the US had and should still have with Great Britain.

Posted by: Guaman at May 13, 2013 05:58 AM (JFgTJ)

142 Let's put it this way - it was the worst fight on the North American continent in WWII, and second only to Iwo in the proportion of casualties to the forces engaged.

And Billy Bob is thinking (if he's thinking at all) of Kiska. We had outflanked it by taking Attu and the Nips evacuated under the cover of the well-known Aleutian fogs.

Actually, the Aleutian campaign was run by some of the best brains in the US military. Simon Buckner went on to command 10th Army on Okinawa and Tom Kinkaid went on to command the US 7th Fleet under MacArthur (and was a prime architect of the "Hit 'em where they ain't" strategy).

PS The Nazi agents who landed on Long Island surrendered to the first Coastguardsman they met. No fighting whatsoever.

Posted by: formwiz at May 13, 2013 04:08 PM (Kv1kb)

143 "83
I believe the first army units sent to Attu had been training for desert warfare in North Africa."

Correct. Made father had a cousin who was killed on Attu, and he had been trained for N. Africa.

Posted by: jbarntt at May 13, 2013 09:24 PM (UNFot)

144 for the record, the German 'infiltrators' (spies) that landed on Long island were not 'tried.'
They received a (military run) status hearing (tribunal, if your prefer), that determined that they were unlawful combatants that had no protection under the Geneva Convention
. . . and so were summarily executed.

Posted by: CAPT Mike at May 14, 2013 03:45 AM (DiQnH)






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