Timeline: Emails Reveal State Department Flack Has Fingers All Over Talking Points Deception, Stating That Her "Superiors" Were Unhappy With Implication They'd Ignored Warnings

They lied.

What difference does it make?

That's an odd question-- if it made no difference to you, Hillary, why did you lie about it?

It's a very strange assertion to make that something doesn't matter if that same person spent hours and hours crafting a lie about that something.

As intelligence officials pieced together the puzzle of events unfolding in Libya, they concluded even before the assaults had ended that al Qaeda-linked terrorists were involved. Senior administration officials, however, sought to obscure the emerging picture and downplay the significance of attacks that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

...

Within hours of the initial attack on the U.S. facility, the State Department Operations Center sent out two alerts. The first, at 4:05 p.m. (all times are Eastern Daylight Time), indicated that the compound was under attack; the second, at 6:08 p.m., indicated that Ansar al Sharia, an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group operating in Libya, had claimed credit for the attack. According to the House report, these alerts were circulated widely inside the government, including at the highest levels. The fighting in Benghazi continued for another several hours, so top Obama administration officials were told even as the fighting was taking place that U.S. diplomats and intelligence operatives were likely being attacked by al Qaeda-affiliated terrorists. A cable sent the following day, September 12, by the CIA station chief in Libya, reported that eyewitnesses confirmed the participation of Islamic militants and made clear that U.S. facilities in Benghazi had come under terrorist attack. It was this fact, along with several others, that top Obama officials would work so hard to obscure.

Look, you've got to read the whole thing. Let me quote just one more bit, though:

After the internal distribution, CIA officials amended that draft to include more information about the jihadist threat in both Egypt and Libya. “On 10 September we warned of social media reports calling for a demonstration in front of the [Cairo] Embassy and that jihadists were threatening to break into the Embassy,” the agency had added by late afternoon. And: “The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al Qaeda in Benghazi and Libya.” But elsewhere, CIA officials pulled back. The reference to “Islamic extremists” no longer specified “Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda,” and the initial reference to “attacks” in Benghazi was changed to “demonstrations.”

The talking points were first distributed to officials in the interagency vetting process at 6:52 p.m. on Friday. Less than an hour later, at 7:39 p.m., an individual identified in the House report only as a “senior State Department official” responded to raise “serious concerns” about the draft. That official, whom The Weekly Standard has confirmed was State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland, worried that members of Congress would use the talking points to criticize the State Department for “not paying attention to Agency warnings.”

In an attempt to address those concerns, CIA officials cut all references to Ansar al Sharia and made minor tweaks. But in a follow-up email at 9:24 p.m., Nuland wrote that the problem remained and that her superiors—she did not say which ones—were unhappy.

See page 2 of the article to watch how Version 1 of the talking points -- specific, informative, accurate, and noting "attacks" by Al Qaeda connected groups -- becomes Version 3, that speaks only of "demonstrations" and does not mention Al Qaeda.

I seem to remember this Victoria Nuland woman offering many lies to the camera in defense of her image-concerned boss, but as of yet I haven't found them. I will update if I do. For now, I just have this.

More: Here, Nuland lies to the press -- a FoxNews reporter -- claiming that Susan Rice's Sunday Talking Points accurately reflected the government's "initial assessment," despite the fact that Victoria Nuland personally had the "initial assessment" changed to suit her "superiors'" political worries.

Note, in addition, there is no mention of a YouTube video in the Talking Points-- that's something Susan Rice added. And yet Nuland affirms that's part of their 'initial assessment."


Posted by: Ace at 04:54 PM



Comments

1 We had the NERVE to think that they weren't giving us the whole truth.

-Hillary 2016

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 03, 2013 04:58 PM (7gwGw)

2 Fucking traitors. All of them.
Lying, shitbag traitors.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 03, 2013 04:58 PM (ZPrif)

3 I still have to note that, in my opinion, Obama and Clinton murdered those four men as surely as if they did it with their own hands. And their minions covered up their crime.

Posted by: toby928 at May 03, 2013 04:58 PM (evdj2)

4 head, pike; some assembly required

Posted by: teh Wind at May 03, 2013 04:58 PM (JIMJN)

5 Also

Posted by: toby928 at May 03, 2013 04:58 PM (evdj2)

6 get a rope...

Posted by: Yip at May 03, 2013 04:58 PM (/jHWN)

7 Barrel, Ace.

Posted by: KG at May 03, 2013 04:59 PM (p7BzH)

8 Barky always lies, Hillary too.

Posted by: Killerdog at May 03, 2013 04:59 PM (IXYmu)

9 Fuck them fuck them fuck them.


Our people attacked. Our people dead and dying. Their concern? The optics of who was doing the attacking.

FUCK. THEM.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 03, 2013 04:59 PM (GEICT)

10 For someone who didn't know jack shit because of the fog of battle, they seem to have had quite a grasp of the facts all along.

Posted by: Up With People! at May 03, 2013 04:59 PM (FmFB3)

11 Note: Uninvolved film maker still in jail

Posted by: The Dept. of Acuracy at May 03, 2013 04:59 PM (+I8Mq)

12 This makes me so sad. The idea that someone in a position of the public's trust would lie. And it's stupid, and there was no good reason, no wonder people don't trust the government.

Posted by: gumchewer at May 03, 2013 05:00 PM (mwctc)

13 alternate reality involved, where Barky really is the smartest president in history.

Posted by: mallfly at May 03, 2013 05:00 PM (bJm7W)

14 "reveal"..."stating"..."unhappy"..."implication"..."ignored"...good luck, Ace. This one is...has been...and will be... a loser. America does not give a shit.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 03, 2013 05:00 PM (65Fed)

15 Ambassador Stevens was unavailable for comment.

Posted by: toby928 at May 03, 2013 05:01 PM (evdj2)

16 Look at that smug bitch just lie and lie with that fucking smirk on her face.
Fuck these people. They're lower than dogshit.

Posted by: Warden at May 03, 2013 05:01 PM (HzhBE)

17 We were having trouble coming up with a way to blame this one on the teabaggers.

What'd you expect us to do?

Posted by: V. Nuland at May 03, 2013 05:01 PM (bOAKf)

18 I feel italicized.

Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at May 03, 2013 05:02 PM (uhftQ)

19 #14

You mean the MSM does not give a shit, and they have to protect Special Needs Kid Obama and Hillary.

Posted by: Jack at May 03, 2013 05:02 PM (Zv1QB)

20 America does not give a shit.

Clearly we should only talk about the Kardashians, then.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 03, 2013 05:02 PM (nbX4o)

21 But hey, don't worry your pretty little heads, lefties, about these people having control over your health care.

Posted by: Warden at May 03, 2013 05:03 PM (HzhBE)

22 How many dead Mexicans and New Mexicans, *now with holes!, does it take to equal one ambassador and three good men?

...doesn't matter, I'm not writing or broadcasting about about either.

Posted by: Your Media at May 03, 2013 05:03 PM (7gwGw)

23 I love that the entire blog is in italics.

Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at May 03, 2013 05:03 PM (GrtrJ)

24 I get the feeling that Victoria Nuland has severe untreated psychiatric issues.
I'm not being frivolous here. Check out her Wikipedia profile.
Her father, the esteemed Yale Med School professor Sherwin Nuland, had significant depression issues, and also split from Victoria's mother when the daughter was young and vulnerable.
Also, Victoria is married to Robert Kagan, the less intelligent of esteemed Yale classics prof (and noted conservative) Donald Kagan's two sons (the other son being Frederick).
Victoria may be one hell of an emotionally fractured individual, operating only with the help of a doggedly constructed and maintained amoral shell.

Posted by: RamonAllones at May 03, 2013 05:03 PM (3lLli)

25 Les Aspin had less culpability over Mogadishu than Hillary and her minions have with Benghazi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 03, 2013 05:03 PM (tsPRH)

26 I had it fixed there for a brief minute.

Let's see what happens now.

Posted by: Andy at May 03, 2013 05:03 PM (bOAKf)

27 This government is so corrupt and its actions so evil that we're going to need a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" when they're gone, like they had after apartheid in South Africa -- just to welcome the LIVs back into the fold as Americans.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 03, 2013 05:04 PM (tyF2+)

28
while the Obama admin was covering up their lies for Benghazi, the Boston bombers went along their merry way


Posted by: soothsayer at May 03, 2013 05:04 PM (BUcLz)

29 They lie because they know the MSM will cover for them. The media covered upthe Fast Furious lies. Today in Mexico themediaallows obama to lieabout drugs and guns. Just how big of a crime does this regime have to commit before they are held accountable/

Posted by: Bufalobob at May 03, 2013 05:04 PM (bxn1D)

30 Let's see what happens now.

Is that a challenge?

Posted by: toby928 at May 03, 2013 05:04 PM (evdj2)

31 A fucking YouTube video. They blamed it on a MOTHERFUCKING YOUTUBE VIDEO!!!! And they're going to get away with it. And that ghoul Hillary is going to be elected in 2016.

Posted by: Warden at May 03, 2013 05:04 PM (HzhBE)

32 In a just world, these sacks of shit would be stood up against the nearest wall.

As it stands, I'm inclined to agree with others on here that Vicki Nuland will be subject to the "nuts and sluts" defense to save the asses of the higher-ups.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:05 PM (+x8q5)

33
So this confirms that the admin actually knew what was happening as it was happening and lied about it repeatedly. And four people died because of their incompetence. Whenwill the impeachment procedure begin? Yeh, that's what I thought.

Posted by: madamemayhem at May 03, 2013 05:05 PM (S2RnE)

34 Fucking traitors. All of them.


Summary executions.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:05 PM (cUARf)

35 @ 23
"I love that the entire blog is in italics"

So does Hillary Clinton

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 03, 2013 05:05 PM (65Fed)

36 Hilary Clinton is fucking done.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:05 PM (R18D0)

37 I am doing my best to not get too pissed off about this, because

) no one will ever be prosecuted, much less lose their job for malfeasance in office or dereliction of duty, because

) the media will refuse to cover this, and even if they did, it wouldn't matter because

C) America is fully under Free Shitter control. Not enough registered voters exist to throw these pieces of shit out of office. As long as the Obamapho' be ringin', they ain't got no worries.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2013 05:05 PM (xvMKm)

38 36 Hilary Clinton is fucking done.

---

She's been done fucking Bill for, what, 35 years now?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:06 PM (+x8q5)

39 TREASON!

In a sane world, these motherfuckers would hang.

But we don't live in a sane world - the motherfuckers are running our government.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

Posted by: turfmann at May 03, 2013 05:06 PM (GgGgG)

40 How many bodies is Hillary responsible for, including Arkansas, DC and Benghazi. That woman is evil.

Posted by: Deli LLama at May 03, 2013 05:06 PM (lGu1O)

41 is there a point at which these fucktards are going to be held accountable for lying, covering up, treason, willfully looking the other way, etc.?

Cause right now, this is really pissing me off that this MAJOR freaking scandal is unraveling and yet as the others, it will likely be poo-pooed by the sycophant-press MSM as politics. AAAaahahhhh...

Posted by: Yip at May 03, 2013 05:06 PM (/jHWN)

42 Isn't it enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every day? I learned enough about Islam from Chelsea. Now, bring me a goddammed cup of HiU and keep yer mouth shut.

Posted by: hrc at May 03, 2013 05:07 PM (2iU3x)

43 Hey, did everyone hear we have a gay NBA player? Isn't that fantastic?!!

Posted by: Warden at May 03, 2013 05:07 PM (HzhBE)

44 Hillary: "Stack 'em over there. I'm out."

Posted by: Your Media at May 03, 2013 05:08 PM (7gwGw)

45 "36
Hilary Clinton is fucking done."

God bless Ace. He can't be held accountable for the stupidity of his fans.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 03, 2013 05:08 PM (65Fed)

46 Hey, did everyone hear we have a gay NBA player? Isn't that fantastic?!!

Posted by: Warden

We used to have a gay ambassador.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:08 PM (R18D0)

47 So this confirms that the admin actually knew what was happening as it was happening and lied about it repeatedly.
And four people died because of their incompetence.


Incompetence indicates trying & failing.
This is more like willful disregard.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:09 PM (cUARf)

48 Look, you've got to read the whole thing.


Do I. I am sure the MSM will be all over this though, like with Valarie Plame because, after all someone could die from this.


And yeah, the LIV won't hear of it, the hair on fire press that breathlessly covered the Plame story won't cover this and most American simply will not hear of it or get that it matters even if they do.

Lets face it, we have ringside seats to watching the grand US experiment fail and we might as well congratulate those who have been working tirelessly for decades doing so while we let them make their own narrative.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at May 03, 2013 05:09 PM (Lqb+9)

49 This must be important. It broke on late Friday afternoon EDT.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 03, 2013 05:09 PM (8ZskC)

50 They are "Gosnells" to me. Butchers of adults. Adults who had no chance and died by a fiendish choice.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote at May 03, 2013 05:09 PM (EGPJQ)

51 / sock off

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at May 03, 2013 05:10 PM (EGPJQ)

52 If you want a vision of the future, imagine a YouTube uploader with boot pressed against his face - forever.

Posted by: Regular Moron at May 03, 2013 05:10 PM (U2UQk)

53 I still want to know who gave the orders for the military to stand down from trying to rescue the embassy people. The other shit is secondary.

Who said, let them die.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2013 05:10 PM (ymDPi)

54 Who found the YouTube video and decided to blame the "demonstrations" on that? That's what I want to know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 03, 2013 05:11 PM (8ZskC)

55 Eric Holder: "What billy-club-wielding, gun-running S.O.B. DID ALL THIS SHIT?!?"
-"Who?"

..."oh"

..."Stack 'em over there."

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 03, 2013 05:11 PM (7gwGw)

56 think back too.... as this unfolded, the blaming of the video, the speech at the UN.. the talking points at the AF hanger, the sunday talk show circus... good god... these people ... shameful..

Posted by: Yip at May 03, 2013 05:11 PM (/jHWN)

57 Sox rule

Posted by: hispanic seal in massachusettes at May 03, 2013 05:11 PM (65Fed)

58 Hey, did everyone hear we have a gay NBA player? Isn't that fantastic?!!

Posted by: Warden

We used to have a gay ambassador.



We do have a pole smoking POTUS.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:12 PM (cUARf)

59 literally, what difference does it make? Obama was re-elected, and the country will move past this eventually. Nothing will come of it because Obama and the dems have the media in their pockets.

Posted by: Ep at May 03, 2013 05:12 PM (bSWzX)

60 I have zero doubt that Nuland will dive on the grenade for Hillary.

Posted by: spongeworthy at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (r5w1L)

61 The question, for me, is why did the Administration want Stevens dead so badly that they would risk impeachment and possible prosecution? Why did he have to be silenced, permanently?

Posted by: toby928 adjusts his tinfoil hat at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (evdj2)

62 I hope this scandal strangles Obama to the point of resignation. He is a first class failure. I've never considered him presidential - he'll always be know as the "Community Organizer of the USA". And a darn crappy one at that.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (EGPJQ)

63 We do have a pole smoking POTUS.



Please, let's not waste that momentous milestone on the guy who's already got the America's First Black President trophy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (8ZskC)

64 Everything was a lie. Everything.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (ZPrif)

65
We do have a pole smoking POTUS.

---

To paraphrase from Game Of Thrones, "Reggie's been stabbin' him for years but Barack still ain't dead yet."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:14 PM (+x8q5)

66 When will these poisonous motherfuckers be arrested, tried and convicted of treason among other things. What's that you say? Soon. No, not soon, not fucking ever. These bastards will walk away from this shit without getting stained. Why? Because the cocksucking media won't report on any of it. Those evil bastards will get away with murdering our ambassador because the media won't tell the truth. Why does anyone even wonder why we lose elections. The fucking Pravda media is all the reason needed.

Posted by: madamemayhem at May 03, 2013 05:14 PM (S2RnE)

67 Sorry I was checking on my truck.

1) told you so media

2) it doesn't really matter the media will not allow Prince Fuckstick to take a hit

3) I said he went to bed the night he did b/c he wanted the Ambassador dead, dead men tell no tales and there was no way he could stop Congress from speaking to an Ambassador politically during campaign season.

4) fuck you America, fuck you Mitt Romney, and fuck you Mr President.

America you KNEW this stank and you allowed the media to jedi mind trick Low Information nation into shrugging....

the President of the United States engaged in undeclared war acting as Radical Islam's Airwing and Arming the very fuckers who attacked our sovereign soil and you worried about "war on tampons" and Todd Akin....

I could fill a dead river bed with the spit I want to cast at you moderates.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:14 PM (LRFds)

68 Please, let's not waste that momentous milestone on the guy who's already got the America's First Black President trophy.

---

I thought Bill got that trophy back in '98. As a result, Barry's had to stretch himself to get his name in the history books.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:15 PM (+x8q5)

69 Ben-Whatzi? That gal on Idol was awesome!

Posted by: America at May 03, 2013 05:15 PM (65Fed)

70 I think these fucktards ALWAYS think of everything in political terms. Always calculating risk/reward... AND they believe their own shit... they think they are smarter than everyone else and can "manage" any crisis and shape any "message" because they're smart AND they have the press in their pocket. F all of them... damn 'em all to hell.

Posted by: Yip at May 03, 2013 05:15 PM (/jHWN)

71 "Hillary Clinton is fucking done." Don't count on it. Remember 47% of our population has their heads buried deep in their posteriors (they don't even know who effin' Biden is). And they all vote. She has a huge shot of taking over for TFG. Sad, very sad, but true.

Posted by: Pipe Holder at May 03, 2013 05:15 PM (VTeUD)

72 I hope they're also checking the instant messages to and from these scumbags.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (R18D0)

73 Oh my God. So fucking blatant, so fucking treasonous. Will we see anyone getting their necks stretched? Or at least making big rocks into little ones?

If this doesn't torpedo the Hildebeast's aspirations and pretty much neutralize the SCOAMT's agenda for the next three-and-a-half years, we really HAVE lost this country.

Un-fucking believable.

Posted by: acethepug at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (AZykp)

74 I thought Bill got that trophy back in '98. As a result, Barry's had to stretch himself to get his name in the history books.


"Stretch himself..." ISWYDT

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (8ZskC)

75 I cannot express to you how much I hate the whole shit-gaggle in this administration. Every time I see them, it is like they are walking by me, kicking my dog and "The Cops" DO NOTHING.

Officer NBC-fucking-Barbrady

...nothing to see here.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (7gwGw)

76 3 Toby 928th,

Bronco went to bed b/c he knew he was fucked if the people under attack lived....

so he shrugged and Atlas shat.

Bronco will allow as many people as need to die die as Americans to empoer his "transformative period"

Fuck him, fuck them, and fuck the soft GOP

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (LRFds)

77 I have zero doubt that Nuland will dive on the grenade for Hillary.

Posted by: spongeworthy at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (r5w1L)

Oh, she's been "diving" on me quite frequently.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (ggRof)

78 @61 Toby
I don't believe they 'think' from a giverning POV. They think first and foremost about a polical POV. Which leads to actions and decisions like this. And know this: They knew precisely what was going on and what was happening as it was happening. This information is only the scratch on the surface. Think about the survivors will have to say. Now THAT will make the Monster of Florence seem juvenile.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (EGPJQ)

79 The question, for me, is why did the Administration want Stevens dead so badly that they would risk impeachment and possible prosecution?



They didn't. Amb. Stevens just got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Trying to save him would have involved a bunch of assests & people and exposed the muslim Fast & Furious program.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (cUARf)

80 Actually, there is some evidence that fire insurance does decrease the both the frequency and severity of fires due to fire related building codes and the ability of the insurer to adjust the premium on a poorly rated property.

The left does not want either of these rational approaches to intrude upon their control on the populace via mandated one size fits all health insurance.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (Cnqmv)

81 67 Sorry I was checking on my truck.

1) told you so media

2) it doesn't really matter the media will not allow Prince Fuckstick to take a hit

3) I said he went to bed the night he did b/c he wanted the Ambassador dead, dead men tell no tales and there was no way he could stop Congress from speaking to an Ambassador politically during campaign season.

4) fuck you America, fuck you Mitt Romney, and fuck you Mr President.

America you KNEW this stank and you allowed the media to jedi mind trick Low Information nation into shrugging....

the President of the United States engaged in undeclared war acting as Radical Islam's Airwing and Arming the very fuckers who attacked our sovereign soil and you worried about "war on tampons" and Todd Akin....

I could fill a dead river bed with the spit I want to cast at you moderates.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:14 PM (LRFds)

Exactly!! Wish I could re-tweet and favorite that.

Posted by: Spypeach at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (6xG9/)

82 Oh, she's been "diving" on me quite frequently.


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 03, 2013 05:16 PM (ggRof)


*seething...*

Posted by: Huma Wiener at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (8ZskC)

83 Not a hot enough place in hell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (lVPtV)

84 It's over over there.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (65Fed)

85 Benghazi was a time ago

It was that disgusting video that promulgated a spontaneous attack by some excited bystander who killed our ambassador

Questioning obama's and hillary 2016 clinton is racist, misogynistic, homophobic and unpatriotic



Posted by: Ministry of Truth at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (WR5xI)

86 Oops wrong thread sorry, my bad. H

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 03, 2013 05:17 PM (Cnqmv)

87 I think we now know why Victoria Nuland was suddenly replaced as State Dept. spokesflack recently.

Like Dems deciding to shield Jamie Gorelick by putting her on the 9-11 panels so she couldn't be asked about the FISA/Wall memo, they yanked her out of there before this came to light to keep her from being asked any questions about it.

Posted by: drawandstrike at May 03, 2013 05:18 PM (rdsN9)

88 These anti-muslim videos have gotten totally out of hand.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at May 03, 2013 05:18 PM (8ZskC)

89 Initially, I was doubtful of Hillary Clinton's credibility, - until I saw the fish-eyed lenses in her spectacles.

In an instant she went from "falling-down drunken whore" to "Ben Franklin's sainted grandmother."

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2013 05:18 PM (G9Mmf)

90 As the lib Hilbots say, "Here come the wingnuts with their Benghazi nothing burger."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (lVPtV)

91
People Died...and Hillary Lied.

People Died...and Hillary Lied.

People Died...and Hillary Lied.

Posted by: wheatie at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (3B3wv)

92 I hate all these cock suckers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (jE38p)

93 They let these men die.

They knew what was happening and knew we had assets in the area who could have extracted them. But they were afraid of angering the very people who were attacking our men. Afraid of making the boss look bad , because the boss gets mad when he looks bad.

So they let these men die. It really is that simple.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (xvMKm)

94 Posted by: Pipe Holder

I know she has a good shot but with her, "What does it matter" quote and the swirling bullshit everywhere this bitch goes, it adds up and will be a huge mountain that will make the swiftboating look like a molehill.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (R18D0)

95 People, this country is over. Let. It. Burn. We'll have to rebuild EVERYTHING, but at least we could start over with the right people.

Posted by: ICBMMan at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (SRlAF)

96 think back too.... as this unfolded, the blaming of the video, the speech at the UN.. the talking points at the AF hanger, the sunday talk show circus... good god... these people ... shameful..
Posted by: Yip at May 03, 2013 05:11 PM (/jHWN)


------------------------------------------


Marxists are cold, emotionless, and without mercy. They love death if it pushes their agenda. Shame? Shame has nothing to do with this. Marxists feel nothing but the kick of their rifles.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2013 05:19 PM (ymDPi)

97 Jake Tapper reported on November 1, 2012, "Without question in this hyper-partisan environment, Republican operatives are fanning flames and creating suspicions where there is no evidence of wrongdoing, trafficking in false rumors and idle speculation. The White House has felt it necessary to pop its head up and shoot down stories it says is false."

http://tinyurl.com/as55buk

Posted by: jeannebodine at May 03, 2013 05:20 PM (LBBS3)

98 There were nightly updates about me going to the nail salon.

Posted by: Valerieplame at May 03, 2013 05:20 PM (Tj05I)

99 Thank you for coming Mrs. Clinton. For my first question I'd like to pose a hypothetical: Let's suppose on the day in question that you wanted Ambassador Stevens and the others to die. What would you have done differently?

Posted by: irright at May 03, 2013 05:20 PM (pMGkg)

100 Afraid of making the boss look bad , because the boss gets mad when he looks bad.



So they let these men die. It really is that simple.



Well, they weren't really people in the Peter Singer meaning of "people." Not one of them went to an Ivy League school, after all.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at May 03, 2013 05:21 PM (8ZskC)

101 Hopefully, historians will see this event as the beginning of the end of the Obama presidency, as well as the demise of Hillary Clinton's presidential aspirations.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 03, 2013 05:21 PM (gA69l)

102 I can't wait to see this reported on the evening news.


*tries to wipe smirk off face*

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2013 05:21 PM (3+QKS)

103 93 They let these men die.

They let them die...to Win an Election.

Posted by: wheatie at May 03, 2013 05:22 PM (3B3wv)

104 What does it matter, Mme. Secretary? It matters because we don't want another Benghazi in our future, which seems likely at this point.

A failure to learn from our mistakes almost guarantees a repetition.

Posted by: Jack at May 03, 2013 05:22 PM (Zv1QB)

105 Posted by: jeannebodine at May 03, 2013 05:20 PM (LBBS3)

Jake Tapper's wife is high up in Planned Parenthood, that family swims in blood money.

Posted by: Valerieplame at May 03, 2013 05:22 PM (Tj05I)

106 80 Actually, there is some evidence that fire insurance does decrease the both the frequency and severity of fires due to fire related building codes and the ability of the insurer to adjust the premium on a poorly rated property.


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There are always ways to game this.

One particular restaurant in my college town had a number of suspicious fires over the years, typically when they were in financial trouble, with one that happened my last semester in college coming coincidentally as the bar had been cleaned out of all the liquor.

The fire marshall always seemed to declare that there was no arson, though, and they would get a payout and rebuild.

Said restaurant finally sold its property and moved across town a few years back, as a drug store wanted the location. Fittingly enough, the debris from the building caught on fire after it was demolished.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:23 PM (+x8q5)

107 When somebody writes the history of the past five years, I suggest it be entitled "Golem Shrugged" and the Dedication page be inscribed "For LIV... you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded"

Posted by: Aloha Akhbar - philosophunculist jihad at May 03, 2013 05:23 PM (/lWM8)

108 "Superiors." The irony is thick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 03, 2013 05:23 PM (8ZskC)

109 79 Rickb223,

Correct there is NO WAY Congress could have been stopped from deposing a sitting US Ambassador...Choom knew his dick was in a blender so he allowed a man to die....

he allowed a gay man to die and the gay radicals still suck barry's Reggie off

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:23 PM (LRFds)

110 MFM delenda est.

Because they are complicit in not only negligent homicide and cooperation with terrorists, but treasonous malingering on vital issues of security and the cover-up of all of it.

And as much as we bitch, we are not hard enough on the MFM by a factor of at least 10. We should be monkeywrenching the living shit out of the fuckers on a daily basis.

Show the fucking bored teenagers at Anonymous / Hamas Recruitment Center #202 what it looks like.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 03, 2013 05:23 PM (qyfb5)

111 103 93 They let these men die.

They let them die...to Win an Election.

They let them die because of the possibility that it might make them look bad.

So sad about Chris, they said.

Posted by: Jack at May 03, 2013 05:23 PM (Zv1QB)

112 101 Wyatt Earp,

I think you overestimate "the moderates"....

no offense this is the beginning of the end of the republic not the democrats.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:24 PM (LRFds)

113 Like Dems deciding to shield Jamie Gorelick by putting her on the 9-11 panels so she couldn't be asked about the FISA/Wall memo, they yanked her out of there before this came to light to keep her from being asked any questions about it.


Then they need to Vince Foster her.
Congress can subpeona her.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:24 PM (cUARf)

114 Those far rightwing extremist tea party bloggers led by the dead-and-still-lying Breitbart are trying to gin up fake outrage over Benghazi, which was caused by the House GOP defunding their security.


The above pretty much sums up the response we'll get from this. The Media will ensure no play.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 03, 2013 05:24 PM (yCvxi)

115 One thing i would also like added , in case we forget is Where or what faciltiy did Doherty and Woods come from?

so There was a facilty close to the compound, and remember THEY were told to 'stand down'

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:24 PM (nqBYe)

116 But hey, an NBA player came out of the closet, so FORWARD!!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 03, 2013 05:24 PM (yCvxi)

117 Uninvolved film maker still in jail.

The only story I want is the story of how he was chosen to eat shit. We know (enough) what State and Obama did. So what? They can.

My first suspicion was that Petraeus kept (or accepted) a list of blasphemers, and he offered "Nakoula" up off it. (YouTube! That's buzzy!) Nobody else whose name has come up in this is an infidel-hater. State hates Jews. Petraeus hates you.

But my later, stronger, probably more sucker-y suspicion is that Nakoula works for "us" and he got set up and fucked. He's an enigma wrapped in stupid, with this goofy-ass marginal-"intelligence"-stooge type life story, like a living Thomas Pynchon character, Coptic Lee Harvey Ricin Elvis.

How'd he get here? Or anywhere? WTF?

Posted by: oblig. at May 03, 2013 05:25 PM (cePv8)

118 They lie through their rotten teeth because they know the MFM will cover or lie for them. A half way honest press and these assholes would all be in jail

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 03, 2013 05:25 PM (1Jaio)

119
he allowed a gay man to die and the gay radicals still suck barry's Reggie off

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As lefties proved during the Clinton years, they'll look the other way on someone abusing their constituents (women under Clinton, gays under Obama) as long as they get things done the "right way".

With women, that meant abortion being protected under Clinton.

With gays, that meant Obama finally killing DADT, amongst other measures, once Hollywood withheld money to force the official position change.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:25 PM (+x8q5)

120 They didn't let these men die to win an election, they covered it up to win an election.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2013 05:25 PM (3+QKS)

121 But hey, an NBA player came out of the closet, so FORWARD!!

Posted by: Burn the Witch

Hope he didn't trip over Ambassador Steven's body!

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:26 PM (R18D0)

122 also the drones, we know they were there watching. and doherty or woods assumed they carried some arnament because they were 'painting targets"

remember that?

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:26 PM (nqBYe)

123 To Obama and Clinton, the crises was not that Muslims had attacked our embassy and killed several US citizens including the ambassador, while Obama and Clinton sat on their hands. Nope. The crises to them was getting caught sitting on their hands. This infuriates me. They got away with it and effectively won the election on false premises. Obama and Clinton are FORESWORN. Do their oaths of office mean nothing??? Can we haz impeach now?

Posted by: Starboardhelm at May 03, 2013 05:26 PM (hHgxI)

124 I was posting about that this morning. If she lied about this, what else is she lying about?
The refused requests for security
They knew it was Al Qaeda right away
They had fighting forces they could have sent there and did not
They did not med evac for hours
They let Stevens,Smith and Woods die
They lied to the public
They lied to the families
They lied to Congress
They jailed a person in a false flag cover up
The President went to bed
And then to Vegas
To campaign
They did it all for an election



Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:26 PM (nH8jP)

125 Trayvon has gotten more justice.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2013 05:27 PM (3+QKS)

126
If there's no impeachment, justice demands revolution.

Posted by: some1 at May 03, 2013 05:27 PM (cSlKk)

127 Obama and Clinton are FORESWORN. Do their oaths of office mean nothing???


Here. Calm yourself. Have a cookie.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at May 03, 2013 05:27 PM (8ZskC)

128 Woods and Doherty were painting targets. It does not mean the drones were armed

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:27 PM (nH8jP)

129 Big surprise that the Pantsuited Harpy lied to protect her ample ass. We all knew it. Of course, nothing will happen. This will probably ensure her a landslide win in 2016.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 03, 2013 05:28 PM (1o6s9)

130 Obama and Clinton are FORESWORN. Do their oaths of office mean nothing??? Can we haz impeach now?


Posted by: Starboardhelm

Only if Obama was white and Hilary was a man.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:28 PM (R18D0)

131 Trayvon has gotten more justice.


Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2013 05:27 PM (3+QKS).


That's because no one who died at the embassy looked like Barry's son

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 03, 2013 05:28 PM (1Jaio)

132 Hopefully, historians will see this event as the beginning of the end of the Obama presidency, as well as the demise of Hillary Clinton's presidential aspirations.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 03, 2013 05:21 PM (gA69l)


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Historians? Any true historian will be by my side hoeing rat shit into the camp's vegetable garden.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2013 05:29 PM (ymDPi)

133 120 Dr Spank,

No sir they refused to use C100 and the Extremis force to even try to interdict because dead men tell no tales...

then the fucking goddamned media aided them in covering up the details to let it blow over....

two phase action cycle Dr Spank...

Barack obama let the men die for maximum cover potential

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:29 PM (LRFds)

134 In the larger realm of this, beyond the people dead and the loss of credibility of the government with it's own people and elsewhere because of the untruths told about what happened in Benghazi, there is a really bad quality to this.


A deliberate limiting of the questions of .....why (?). The Media and the politicians conspire to limit information to the people, and themselves. The is the path down into stagnation and degeneracy. It's not fear. It is mental sloth. They are too mentally deficient to actually have any inquiry as to what really happened. Ambassador Stevens will soon become an un-person, and our government will probably not even acknowledge that he ever existed.

The Media and the politicians are mentally lazy, sloppy and careless. As bad as this was, it portends much worse debacles in the future. A story told by morons (the political class) to imbeciles (the media).

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (RFeQD)

135 Thunderb right, and also was it Cia at the other compound that woods and doherty came from against orders that were saying they could go in and told to stand down, along with african con (ham) etc?

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (nqBYe)

136 Even the most low information voter knew at the time of the Benghazi attack, if they were aware of the attack in the first place, that not having sometype of military response was a fuckup.

This is where liberal Hollywoods propaganda machine bites them in the butt. Every LIV has watched a million TV shows where after such an event against American interests, Chuck Norris and his pals or some facsimile , is parachuted into the conflict and America's enemies are soon dead.

That no attempt was even made I would assume was questioned by everyone with a brain.

Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (m2CN7)

137 That's because no one who died at the embassy looked like Barry's son


Posted by: TheQuietMan

I'm pretty sure if Barry had a son, he'd be getting fucked in the ass.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (R18D0)

138 Don't worry, Hillary told the families of the victims. We got the guy who made that video.

We sat in a room and watched your sons die half a world away. And then we jailed a YouTuber in Schenectady.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (xvMKm)

139 12
101 Wyatt Earp,

I think you overestimate "the moderates"....

no offense this is the beginning of the end of the republic not the democrats.


True enough.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (gA69l)

140 And I thought this whole situation was due to an amusing anecdote told by Mary Poppin's Perfectly Perfect Piecing about a movieabout Mohammed. At least that's what all of the Sunday News Shows after 9/11/12 presented to me. By a high ranking Administration official.Silly me.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 03, 2013 05:31 PM (YOWAW)

141 How about a shout out for a gay basketballer?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:31 PM (P3dtw)

142 119 Brandon in BR,

indeed and the republic is doomed because decent men refuse to grasp how ruthless a domestic foe we face and rely on the moderates and FSA to "punish them"

The FSA and Moderates are not reliable we have a duty to the Constitution to kill snakes in the crib metaphorcially when needed....

fucking soft ass GOP More Atwater less Armey

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:31 PM (LRFds)

143 and right we know they were painting and we know, 5 people in that room at the white house were watching, that was in the original information ?

perhaps no armaments (dunno)

biden saying ;you son has large balls'? etc

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (nqBYe)

144 Yes, Nakoula Nakoula is still in jail. In solitary. Has he hanged himself yet?

I'm sure the civil rights community will jump up soon demanding his release. You know, like demanding the release of those innocents in Gitmo.

*crickets*

Posted by: PJ at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (ZWaLo)

145 It's bigger than us.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (/djtm)

146 Have I mentioned that the MFM are degenerate, lickspittle serfs? Because I'm not sure I said that *explicitly*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (qyfb5)

147 You know someone was told to find something, anything, offensive on YouTube after the embassy had burned.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (R18D0)

148 Obama: Ben Ghazi? Does he play in the NBA? Is he gay?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (P3dtw)

149 Marxists are cold, emotionless, and without mercy. They love death if it pushes their agenda. Shame? Shame has nothing to do with this. Marxists feel nothing but the kick of their rifles.


And my family & friends wonder how, when I say that I could whack these animals and not lose any sleep.
I tell 'em, "It's easy. A little Kentucky windage..."
Hell, in my wildlife rehab career, I've had to put down hundreds of animals for much less.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:33 PM (cUARf)

150 Man, Hillary is FUCKED now!

Posted by: Vince Foster at May 03, 2013 05:33 PM (HzhBE)

151 148

You beat me to it

Posted by: loneduck at May 03, 2013 05:33 PM (trhwS)

152 It's all Mitt Romney's fault for politicizing Benghazi. And what about his gaffes?

Look! Squirrel!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 03, 2013 05:33 PM (5fSr7)

153 Drip. Drip. Drip. DELUGE.

Posted by: Craig Poe at May 03, 2013 05:34 PM (BVkEs)

154 I hope to God Ham and Petraeus testify. Hard for the MFM to ignore that.

The administration is playing a little game here. They are not getting the defense counsel the needed security clearances so their clients can talk to them about testifying prior to the committee hearing next week.
Effectively denying Benghazi survivors who want to testifytheir right to counsel. To silence them.

The SAME WEEK they prematurely applied that right to a bunch of FUCKING TERRORISTS!

sorry for the shouting

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:34 PM (nH8jP)

155 Woods and Doherty were painting targets. It does not mean the drones were armed

Even unarmed flying things are weapons when you crash'em into shit. We should have learned that lesson by now...


Posted by: @PurpAv at May 03, 2013 05:34 PM (/gHaE)

156 The Five just reported this now.

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2013 05:34 PM (X6akg)

157
138 Don't worry, Hillary told the families of the victims. We got the guy who made that video.

We sat in a room and watched your sons die half a world away. And then we jailed a YouTuber in Schenectady. You're welcome.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2013 05:30 PM (xvMKm)


^^^^^^THIS

Posted by: Aloha Akhbar - philosophunculist jihad at May 03, 2013 05:35 PM (/lWM8)

158 EOJ, some seem to not mind that because the guy was a loser, and broke the computer thingy he made with the courts.

i however find this b.s

the guy crummy as he is, is a Private citizen was Used to cover up for team Obama.

they also used that moment to tell us OUR speech caused this.

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:35 PM (nqBYe)

159 127 Obama and Clinton are FORESWORN. Do their oaths of office mean nothing???

No.

You appear surprised by this revelation.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 03, 2013 05:35 PM (pS8Z3)

160 I'm out of the barrel. I smell like bacon grease.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:35 PM (P3dtw)

161 The thing about this is it's easy to understand. Even for the fucking idiots. This is starting to look like a blue dress with jizz around the collar.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (R18D0)

162 A Clinton lie? Never happen.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (P3dtw)

163 While we are on the subject of piece of shit politicians lying their asses off, Obama has told some real whoppers today in Mexico.

Posted by: navybrat at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (2ZO++)

164
Bastards. Our heroes were still under fire and they were crafting excuses.

There may be 4 or at least 2 less dead if instead they would have tried to help them.

Hillary also lied by saying she never saw the memos requesting more security form a U S AMBASSADOR TO LIBYA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (jKWYf)

165 Even unarmed flying things are weapons when you crash'em into shit. We should have learned that lesson by now...

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Especially stationary objects like mortar teams, which killed Sean Smith.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (xvMKm)

166 OT: In a good light... UPS just delivered my newest book " The Monster of Florence" Thanks Ace!

Posted by: Yip at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (/jHWN)

167 Thunderb, those were great points to bring to the topic.

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (nqBYe)

168 Vast right wing conspiracy.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:37 PM (P3dtw)

169 159 Sean bannion,

hey don't worry Sean barry's got our friends, relatives, and brothers in arms' back though right?

I mean no way in hell would he hamstring a response matrix b/c he found it onerous....

I hate anyone who can't see what he did.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:38 PM (LRFds)

170 So--the Drudge link is misleading.

The FBI did not release a video of the Benghazi attack. They released a video of the still photos of the three suspects.

I should have known that. A video of the attack probably would not have looked like a "spontaneous protest".


(Hell in the photos the guys are carrying more than assault posters.)

Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 05:38 PM (r2PLg)

171 the JEF is not getting counsel for the survivors clearances prior to their clients testifying IN AN EFFORT TO SILENCE THEM

the same week they extended those rights to fucking terrorists

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:38 PM (nH8jP)

172 There should be pitchforks and torches marching to DC. If only there was some sort of organization or a number of such organization dedicated to getting to the truth of matters like this and disseminating it to the public.

In my mind, the media are no less complicit in the murders of the Benghazi victims than Clinton and Obama, and they are complicit, as without them shilling for their personal jesus and saddlebags Clinton, we might not have to suffer the first fours years of these incompetent fucks, let alone another four years.

Posted by: assault flounder at May 03, 2013 05:38 PM (Kkt/i)

173 What's in it for me? Nothing, you say? *Yawns*

Posted by: FSA at May 03, 2013 05:39 PM (Kkt/i)

174 161 Dang,

There is NO way in hell the media, the Senate, or Free Shit Army lets Obama pay....

the *most* we're gonna get is a reverse Scooter Libby.....

this nation needs to divorce now while there is still enough amity to let it be relatively painless because they will not stop and once able they will shred the document.....

Please God let us splinter.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:40 PM (LRFds)

175 Someone needs to say it.
Hillary is a cunt.
And no, I do NOT denounce myself.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:40 PM (cUARf)

176 We need background checks on all video protests.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:40 PM (R18D0)

177 And we wonder how Hitler could do the things that he did. How could the German people allow this? Well......now we know.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2013 05:40 PM (ymDPi)

178 yeah weren't the dems for whistleblowers until this administration came into power?

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:40 PM (nqBYe)

179 146---" Have I mentioned that the MFM are degenerate, lickspittle serfs? Because I'm not sure I said that *explicitly*."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 03, 2013 05:32 PM (qyfb5)
----------------------------------
It cannot be said enough.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 03, 2013 05:41 PM (C8mVl)

180 For someone who didn't know jack shit because of the fog of battle, they seem to have had quite a grasp of the facts all along.

This needs to be repeated. At least as many times as I heard 'fog of war' during their cover-up phase.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 03, 2013 05:41 PM (UU0OF)

181 175 Someone needs to say it.
Hillary is a cunt.
And no, I do NOT denounce myself.

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And WHAT a cunt!

Posted by: Huma Dorr Weiner at May 03, 2013 05:41 PM (+x8q5)

182 171 ThunderB,

Obama is waving his dick in our faces with his antics.....

he goes down to mexico and decried 'gun smuggling" he send a fucking judge to mirandize tflashbang and friends...


Fuck you Boehner do your fucking job or look in the Camera and just say 'whatever he wants baby' so we can properly assess the AO

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:41 PM (LRFds)

183 We were all thinking it, rick.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2013 05:41 PM (xvMKm)

184 #175. I have your back.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (P3dtw)

185 While we are on the subject of piece of shit politicians lying their asses off, Obama has told some real whoppers today in Mexico.

Listen, you tea party extremist, and possible YouTube uploader, I think he told the truth. He blamed Mexican violence on American guns.

I believe our Precedent.

Posted by: Regular Moron at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (U2UQk)

186 I always knew this was true

but seeing it in print makes me want to weep

deny counsel to Benghazi survivors

provide counsel to Boston terrorists

weep

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (nH8jP)

187 Clinton needs to hang for this.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (Lv6Qx)

188 "Do their oaths of office mean nothing???"

It's a living oath of office, kinda like a living Constitution.

Posted by: PJ at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (ZWaLo)

189 What was that thing Leftists used to say, "It's not the lies, it's the cover up or something?" Anyone remember that?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (2YIjo)

190 But they still won't be able to pin it on obama or Hillary. Some lower level schmucks head will roll

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (9+ccr)

191

I want names.

If it doesn't make a difference, why ya hiding She-devillary?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2013 05:43 PM (XYSwB)

192 This story is as olde as the constitution and just as irrelevant.

Posted by: Jay Carney at May 03, 2013 05:43 PM (3+QKS)

193 Please let the witnesses be Ham and Petraeus

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:43 PM (nH8jP)

194 189 What was that thing Leftists used to say, "It's not the lies, it's the cover up or something?" Anyone remember that?

---

I seem to remember something about that, but apparently I'm now a dinosaur that no one in the media listens to.

Posted by: Bob Woodward at May 03, 2013 05:43 PM (+x8q5)

195 We've got to protect our phony-baloney jobs, gentlemen!!!!

Posted by: Asst. Deputy Secretary of State Le Petomaine at May 03, 2013 05:44 PM (MMC8r)

196 Is being anti-American an impeachable offence?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2013 05:44 PM (+dA48)

197 hey remember when stars like better midler and the left were yelling that the Obscure video guy should be Killed for causing Benghazi?


That was Hillary's and Obama's doing!

what if He had been before he was arrested?


Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:44 PM (nqBYe)

198 Remember them outting His address?

Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:44 PM (nqBYe)

199 Furthermore, the Obama Administration intentionally covered up a profound geopolitical truth: that President Gutsy Call personally taking out Gay Santa Claus Impersonator bin Laden didn't magically end Global Jihad.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (2YIjo)

200 No worries!

We just won't make a big deal of this. After all, they told US the truth and made it clear that we just couldn't report it as it would be clearly damning evidence that Obama and Hillary were unfit for office.

As long as know, we don't mind deceiving the American public.

Posted by: The MSM at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (Zv1QB)

201 Bill: I just fucked another bimbo.
Hillary: What difference does it make?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (P3dtw)

202 Grab all the rope in Texas and find a tall oak tree, as the song goes

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (BAS5M)

203 Benghazi was a long time ago.

Anyone think there could be a market for Obama administration voodoo dolls?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (lVPtV)

204 Obscure video guy should be Killed for causing Benghazi?


That was Hillary's and Obama's doing!

what if He had been before he was arrested?

And he's still in jail

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (9+ccr)

205 Posted by: sven10077@sven10077

I think Obama will skate. He knows someone big has to go. Hilary will not be allowed to pass the buck to him even though she'll try. Hilary stinks to high heaven. The clock is ticking. She slit her own throat with, "What difference... does it make?" It showed she tried to cover it up and didn't pull it off.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (R18D0)

206 Kind of...Nixonian, isn't it?

Posted by: zsasz at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (MMC8r)

207 53 I still want to know who gave the orders for the military to stand down from trying to rescue the embassy people. The other shit is secondary.

Who said, let them die.
Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2013 05:10 PM (ymDPi)


******************


Who the hell was responsible for clearing action in Libya yet leaving AFRICOM without a rapid response Special Forces group.

CIF.

Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (r2PLg)

208 196

No, that wins you awards and praise from the left.

Posted by: loneduck at May 03, 2013 05:45 PM (trhwS)

209 They lied? Dog bites man.


Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp Reporting from the Doghouse. at May 03, 2013 05:46 PM (bb5+k)

210 Reader CJ Burch. Don't you mean voters?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at May 03, 2013 05:46 PM (/djtm)

211 Thunderb if it were Petraus and Ham, It would redeem my thoughts of those higher ups.

I have been blown away by them standing aside and letting this farce continue.


Posted by: willow at May 03, 2013 05:46 PM (nqBYe)

212 its been said...Watergate didn't have a body count

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:46 PM (nH8jP)

213 Posted by: PJ at May 03, 2013 05:42 PM (ZWaLo)

An oath to these people is more "flexible" now that Obama has been re-elected, and their interpretation was pretty darn flexible before he got elected the first time.

The libs/progs have started to plumb the depths of depravity, and I am afraid to see what they will do next!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 03, 2013 05:46 PM (Cnqmv)

214 It wasn't just Hillary's lies. It was the media cheering those lies and anointing her as some sort of powerhouse for the lies. We helped create the situation that killed them-what difference does it make how it happened (liberal cheers, huzzahs and applause). I am sure Morning Joe kissed her ass afterward.

Posted by: ejo at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (GXvSO)

215 I don't think there were orders to "stand down"

I think there was a request to go in, and the JEF never answered

like voting "present"

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (nH8jP)

216 The Four
daggar this is knife! over! daggar, this is knife! over! daggar this is knife. where the heck are you?!

Variable, this is Knife! Over!...Variable, this is Knife!
Over!... Variable, this is Knife! where the heck are you!?!?

Hillary: the machine is still on Huma.

Posted by: Knife at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (jKWYf)

217 Clapper didn't sign statement.
Hillary never saw request for more security
Holder never knows anything going on in DOJ

Is there a standing rule to never ever put your name on anything of importance in the administration of liars, criminals and murderers?

Posted by: Dlei LLama at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (lGu1O)

218
I wish someone would start replaying Clinton's eulogy for Chris Stevens. That was some of the most egregious dishonesty ever caught on camera.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (Lv6Qx)

219 205 Dang,

Nah I'm thinking it'll be Susan Rice to stir the race card for Hillary's! run

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (LRFds)

220
This re-affirms my disgust and contempt for DoS as a whole. Lots of great patriots, to be sure, in the ranks but this organization as a whole is a bunch of elitist, commie fucks. A few years back I worked at an embassy in S.America and each and everyone of the state fucks were pieces of shit. I saw the same thing in Iraq. Fucking worthless. I seem to get pissed a lot lately.

Posted by: fastfreefall at May 03, 2013 05:48 PM (MPEti)

221 I called out tapper....

watch my tweetline to see his non answer

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 03, 2013 05:48 PM (LRFds)

222 Hillary Clinton/Christopher Stevens 2016

Posted by: Craig Poe at May 03, 2013 05:48 PM (BVkEs)

223
This is another golden opportunity for some Pubbies to bring this to the awareness of the LIV's, or at least talk about it on the Sunday talkfests.

If they had any smarts (I know, I know), they'd send out a few emails about this so everybody had their talking points, and this would be all we'd hear for about a week, at least until the hearings start.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 03, 2013 05:48 PM (+z4pE)

224 Clinton and Obama only lied because conservatives made them lie.

The Progressives' Grand Plan for the Benefit of Humanity cannot afford to be sidetracked by bad PR.

They were protecting themselves against conservative small-mindedness and warmongering bloodlust.

Or something.

(Yes, this sort of thing is actually what the Faithful believe.)

Posted by: Phinn at May 03, 2013 05:48 PM (dMLWe)

225 214 It wasn't just Hillary's lies. It was the media cheering those lies and anointing her as some sort of powerhouse for the lies. We helped create the situation that killed them-what difference does it make how it happened (liberal cheers, huzzahs and applause). I am sure Morning Joe kissed her ass afterward.
Posted by: ejo at May 03, 2013 05:47

Anyone remember that fat ass Crowley with her talking points from obama excoriating Romney for the nerve of bring up said subject during the debate?

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 03, 2013 05:49 PM (9+ccr)

226 "223
This is another golden opportunity for some Pubbies to bring this to the awareness of the LIV's, or at least talk about it on the Sunday talkfests.

If they had any smarts (I know, I know), they'd send out a few emails about this so everybody had their talking points, and this would be all we'd hear for about a week, at least until the hearings start.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 03, 2013 05:48 PM (+z4pE) "

Agreed. But maybe the Media could do its fucking job too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at May 03, 2013 05:49 PM (2YIjo)

227 Wow, how can them lying bastards look at themselves in the mirror? Especially Barry before he flew yo Vegas?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (HVff2)

228 Ansar al Sharia leaked on day one and then was stuffed back in about as well as toothpaste.

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (sOtz/)

229 wow.

I wonder how the families are going to take it when they hear this.

I

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (nH8jP)

230 215 I don't think there were orders to "stand down"

I think there was a request to go in, and the JEF never answered

like voting "present"
Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:47 PM (nH8jP)

***************


Well there is talk now that Doherty had to frigging "commandeer" a damn plane to get from Tripoli to Benghazi.

And not all of the Tripoli security went forward to Benghazi.

Now--if Ambassador Stevens request for a small plane--can't remember the make--had not been denied....

Maybe they could have gotten in there sooner.


Most likely.


Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (r2PLg)

231 I wonder how the families are going to take it when they hear this.

I
Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (nH8jP)


The question is will they hear this?

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 03, 2013 05:51 PM (9+ccr)

232 Game theory thought of the day: the Left is not afraid of the Republican establishment (frustrated, perhaps, but not afraid) and neither should we be. For if we win it will be because we defeat the Left, and if we can defeat the Left we can naturally defeat the establishment, for we would have more than enough potential (potential in physics terms), given the magnitude of the task, whereas if we cannot defeat the Left neither the support nor disdain of the establishment matter.

The constants that make all this true is that the establishment cannot defeat the Left itself, and the magnitude of the task. Defeating the Left is like Germany; the establishment is Italy.

Posted by: Sir Francis Bacon at May 03, 2013 05:51 PM (LwrQ3)

233 Stand down.

Posted by: President Gutsy Call at May 03, 2013 05:51 PM (Zv1QB)

234 "228 Ansar al Sharia leaked on day one and then was stuffed back in about as well as toothpaste.

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (sOtz/) "

Ansar al-Sharia? Must be tea baggers. Or anarchists.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at May 03, 2013 05:51 PM (2YIjo)

235 But maybe the Media could do its fucking job too.

---

We'll have to excuse them.

They're too busy with their mouths on Obama's cock and trying to rally investment funds to pull their investments in the LA Times in case of a Koch Brothers purchase to bother with anything as gauche as doing their jobs.

That requires actual work, not getting the talking points from the White House fax machine or JournoList.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 03, 2013 05:51 PM (+x8q5)

236 I was using Ansar al Sharia in one of my Muslim sock names.

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 05:52 PM (sOtz/)

237 #232. Me? I'm drunk.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:52 PM (P3dtw)

238 Old news by Sat morn...dead Americans...pffft.

Posted by: getonwithit at May 03, 2013 05:52 PM (MbeEN)

239 234 "228 Ansar al Sharia leaked on day one and then was stuffed back in about as well as toothpaste.

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 05:50 PM (sOtz/) "

Ansar al-Sharia? Must be tea baggers. Or anarchists.

---

Nope, I'm pretty sure that was a forward drafted by the Grizzlies back in the day.

Posted by: Barry The Jock Sniffer at May 03, 2013 05:52 PM (+x8q5)

240 It was! That was the gutsy call. Sending the order to stand down, the order to let those men die, when we could have been there is time, and then lying about it...that was the gutsy call.

VP Joe Biden

Posted by: The New Narrative at May 03, 2013 05:53 PM (Zv1QB)

241 I will never "denounce" myself for anything I say. (# 175 for example)
However, I will apologize to the 'ettes for my coarseness.
Sorry ladies.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2013 05:53 PM (cUARf)

242 #227. There are no reflections.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:53 PM (P3dtw)

243
I don't know that I agree so much that they "let them die". We had a C-130 in Italy or something...who knows? Amb. Stevens was an experienced Middle East hand who knew he was in a dangerous place and shit happens.

What is absolutely appalling, though, is that the administration immediately and knowingly lied about the motive and circumstances to make it be anything other than Islamist terror.

But, that was a long time ago (TM).

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 03, 2013 05:53 PM (A0sHn)

244 Wait, wasn't Stevens gay? And Barry and Hillary let him die?

*confused*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2013 05:54 PM (lVPtV)

245 The families of the dead should be on every show they can get on. Unfortunately, if I recall, all but one or maybe two were big obama lovers and told us to fuck off....

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 03, 2013 05:54 PM (9+ccr)

246 they did not even try to med evac them quickly

some of the survivors waited forever for care

who knows how that has affected them

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 05:55 PM (nH8jP)

247 Got to give them credit though. They took a deliberate (and successful) plan to kill the loose ends in an Al Queda gun running scheme that the Russians were about to expose and turned it into a compromise of sorts. A half admitted to "botched" RESCUE of the people they killed on purpose. They learned what to do to the loose ends during Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Up With People! at May 03, 2013 05:55 PM (FmFB3)

248 #! 241. When I think about you, I denounce myself. Or something like that.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 03, 2013 05:55 PM (P3dtw)

249 Also there is a new and better write up from the House Committee that is out.

That stupid bitch--Charlene Lamb is quoted as literally screaming that she did not want them to request the military security team.

I think the acronym is SST.

Let me go see if I can find that bullshit.

Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 05:55 PM (r2PLg)

250 some of the survivors waited forever for care

who knows how that has affected them


We could find out if they weren't hidden away and not allowed to talk...

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 03, 2013 05:56 PM (9+ccr)

251 An oath to these people is more "flexible" now that Obama has been re-elected, and their interpretation was pretty darn flexible before he got elected the first time.The libs/progs have started to plumb the depths of depravity, and I am afraid to see what they will do next!
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 03, 2013 05:46 PM (Cnqmv)


----------------------------------------------


And what's really scary. They have over three and a half years left in this term.

I hope and pray I have the strength for what could very well be coming soon.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2013 05:56 PM (ymDPi)

252 244
 Wait, wasn't Stevens gay? And Barry and Hillary let him die? 

He didn't play basketball and dance around in a pink thong.

Posted by: loneduck at May 03, 2013 05:56 PM (trhwS)

253 Merde new thread.

You'll just have to take my word for it.

Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 05:56 PM (r2PLg)

254 It would be nice if the Clintons, all of them, died in a fire. And I don't denounce myself, too.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 03, 2013 05:57 PM (DuH+r)

255
Gee, I guess it was those darned "people with no belief system" after-all.
Bet the administration wishes they had Kerry around to explain all thislast September!

Posted by: RK at May 03, 2013 05:57 PM (5LnNh)

256 Here's another thing from the article: The Weekly Standard has confirmed the identities of the authors of
two critical emails—one indicating the main reason for the changes and
the other announcing that the talking points would receive their final
substantive rewrite at a meeting of top administration officials on
Saturday, September 15.
The White House provided the emails to members of the House and
Senate intelligence committees for a limited time and with the
stipulation that the documents were available for review only and would
not be turned over to the committees. The White House and committee
leadership agreed to that arrangement as part of a deal that would keep
Republican senators from blocking the confirmation of John Brennan, the
president’s choice to run the CIA.If the House report provides an
accurate and complete depiction of the emails, it is clear that senior
administration officials engaged in a wholesale rewriting of
intelligence assessments about Benghazi in order to mislead the public.



I am so fucking pissed off that even when it comes to delivering documents which they are obliged to do for oversight purposes, they're still playing political games with them. And the fucking Repukes bend over and let them get away with it rather than tell them to go fuck themselves and either subpoena them or go screaming to Sharyl Attkisson. Fucking eunuchs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 03, 2013 05:58 PM (dWIil)

257
Agreed. But maybe the Media could do its fucking job too.

Agreed. But there is a lot teh Pubbies could be doing.

We've covered how exactly to do it many times: All the Pubbie has to say is, "That's an interesting question, I'll get to that in a minute.

What I'd like to know is why, in the light of these recent revelations about the attack at Benghazi, why you haven't reported on them. In addition, will you correct your inaccurate reporting?"

And then not say a fucking thing on any other subject. Those assholes can be embarrassed, but first, somebody on our side has to want to try.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 03, 2013 05:58 PM (+z4pE)

258 So this confirms what we all knew to be true, no?I am not shocked one itsy bitsy, teeny, tiny bit.

Posted by: joanne at May 03, 2013 06:00 PM (Cjcon)

259 The question, for me, is why did the Administration
want Stevens dead so badly that they would risk impeachment and possible
prosecution? Why did he have to be silenced, permanently?

Posted by: toby928 adjusts his tinfoil hat at May 03, 2013 05:13 PM (evdj2)

Backlash. As in Fast and Furious.

Posted by: jem at May 03, 2013 06:02 PM (7g1yh)

260 I'm looking forward to Ms. Nuland's testimony. It should help in getting closer to where the buck is supposed to stop.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 03, 2013 06:04 PM (vcskT)

261 244
Wait, wasn't Stevens gay? And Barry and Hillary let him die?

*confused*


Posted by: Jane D'oh


Funny.

Talk about society keeping people in thew closet, getting gays murdered will definitely do it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2013 06:04 PM (3+QKS)

262 Proof of Hillary's diplomatic excellence: Hillary traveled more miles than those preceding her since FDR ( WWII.)

This is the standard, hailed as, noteworthy.

Posted by: 13times at May 03, 2013 06:05 PM (fGPLK)

263 This is shocking in regards to its lack of shockingosity.

Posted by: jakeman at May 03, 2013 06:07 PM (96M6e)

264 Oh hell I felt compelled to find it.




Despite the denial of Ambassador Stevens’ request, Embassy Tripoli officials persisted in their requests for additional security. In July 2012, for example, RSO Eric Nordstrom alerted DS officials in Washington that he intended to submit a formal cable request for an extension of the SST and MSD teams. DS personnel in Washington alerted Mr. Nordstrom that Ms. Charlene Lamb, the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security, was “reluctant to ask for an SST extension, apparently out of concern that it would be embarrassing to the [State Department] to continue to have to rely on [Defense Department] assets to protect our Mission.”18 Moreover, in response to Mr. Nordstrom’s intent to request an MSD extension, Ms. Lamb responded, “NO, I do not [I repeat] not want them to ask for the MSD team to stay!”19

http://thehill.com/images/stories/blogs/globalaffairs/benghazi.pdf


Interim Progress Report for The House Republican Conference on the Events Surrounding the September ii, 2012 Terrorist Attacks in Benghazi, Libya April 23. 2013

Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 06:08 PM (r2PLg)

265 Excuse me if this has been mentioned before, I haven't had time to read all the comments. This is conjecture on my part but it is very feasible. When they trotted out Petraeus to repeat the narrative, he resigned soon after. My guess is he objected to the altered talking points and they leaned on him with their knowledge of his affair, so he did as he was asked. He resigned because he knew that since the Administration knew of his affair, there was a good chance it would get out.

Posted by: flmom at May 03, 2013 06:08 PM (nSjrf)

266 I'm thinking the committee didn't get the emails from the administration

they got them from Petraeus and Ham

God I hope so

Posted by: Thunderb at May 03, 2013 06:13 PM (nH8jP)

267 Obama took Boehner out on the golf course to tell him they had tapes of me with him when he was shitfaced and I have a lot of sisters.

BOEHNER NEEDS TO GO

Posted by: Skanky whore at May 03, 2013 06:14 PM (Tj05I)

268 the deal is, if this is hung around Hillary's neck, political career is over. I've thought for a couple years that AoS should have "folders" or "files" with all this political shit in it.
Folks could add information to the file and we can dump these cork smokers. I'm not too technologically inclined but could this be "crowd-sourced" by morons?

Posted by: TheThinMan at May 03, 2013 06:15 PM (nUSH+)

269 Isn't it a crime to cover up for terrorists? The State Dept exception?

I am so confused.

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 06:16 PM (sOtz/)

270 If only they had given as much care for the well-being of the people at the embassy than they did to their political careers. I cannot imagine scrambling to cover up their culpability rather than scrambling assets.

Posted by: no good deed at May 03, 2013 06:18 PM (mjR67)

271 Amos 5:24

"But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream."

Pray for justice for the killers of Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods and for justice for the people who tried to keep it hidden and did nothing to prevent it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2013 06:24 PM (INYkK)

272 Wait, wasn't Stevens gay? And Barry and Hillary let him die?

*confused*


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2013 05:54 PM (lVPtV)


Jason Collins for Ambassador to Libya; since he's so brave and shit...

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 03, 2013 06:24 PM (dWIil)

273 IMO, YMMV, letting al Qaeda linked terrorists skate for messaging reasons is not optimal security protocol.

Also, aieeeeeee! We are all going to be murdered so Obama looks good!

*Arms flailing overhead*

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 06:24 PM (sOtz/)

274 This from the link Ace has is also interesting:


On September 28, a statement from ODNI seemed designed to quiet the growing furor over the administration’s explanations of Benghazi. “In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available.”

The statement continued: “As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized attack carried out by extremists. It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. However, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with, or sympathetic to al Qaeda.”

The statement strongly implies that the information about al Qaeda-linked terrorists was new, a revision of the initial assessment. But it wasn’t. Indeed, the original assessment stated, without qualification, “we do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda participated in the attack.”

The statement from the ODNI came not from James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, but from his spokesman, Shawn Turner. When the statement was released, current and former intelligence officials told The Weekly Standard that they found the statement itself odd and the fact that it didn’t come from Clapper stranger still. Clapper was traveling when he was first shown a draft of the statement to go out under his name. It is not an accident that it didn’t.

Posted by: tasker at May 03, 2013 06:25 PM (r2PLg)

275
What infuriates me the most about Benghazi is that OFuckHead intentionally left over 30 people to the hands of the islamist attackers. If not for the three refusing to follow stand-down orders, there could have been many, many more deaths. At minimum, they would have become hostages.

Obama is evil.

Posted by: Marmo at May 03, 2013 06:25 PM (pcgW1)

276 Ambassador Stevens was gay and was also a member of the Chinook tribe of Native Americans in Washington State.

Why do Hillary and Obama hate gay Native Americans?

Posted by: Anchovy at May 03, 2013 06:28 PM (sv7CT)

277 So when is Candy Crowley going to apologize on national TV to Romney and commit ritual suicide for her shame in failing her journalist caste?

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 03, 2013 06:30 PM (KCvsd)

278 Hey, Guys! I Toally Just Learned Something! The MFM Are a Bunch Of Lying Whores for the Far Left!

Pass it on!

Oh, shit, you knew?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 03, 2013 06:42 PM (qyfb5)

279 There was an article on real clear politics today by some guy trying to label this a conspiracy theory. Go read it if you want to realize how brain-dead these libs are.
He tried to discredit everything by linking to a lib writing in FP. The guy basically said that Obama is not to blame, even though it took him about 3 hours after being informed of the event to give the go ahead to the spec ops team in croatia.
And even if they Obama did give the order in 10 min (how do you NOT give that ******* order?) the 40 member spec ops team would be powerless to do anything. He says those 40 member would be powerless to stop 2 guys with mortars. And if they tried to parachute in, theyd just miss the consolate and land in the Benghazi zoo.
I'm not kidding guys. Its so frustrating.

Posted by: Stone at May 03, 2013 06:42 PM (4sMhD)

280 sry for sp/gram/redundancy errors, still at work so had to make the post fast

Posted by: Stone at May 03, 2013 06:44 PM (4sMhD)

281 JASON COLLINS!!!

Posted by: your betters in the media at May 03, 2013 06:58 PM (Hl098)

282 Libya?

Posted by: Low Information Voter at May 03, 2013 07:01 PM (pmsMR)

283 @279
Parachuting is so last millenium. VTOL. Run out, like a Viking.

Posted by: Beagle at May 03, 2013 07:06 PM (sOtz/)

284 Where is Victoria Nulaid now? Will Congressman Issa subpoena her?

Posted by: melanerpes at May 03, 2013 07:17 PM (zs4Yp)

285 You know, I can't see John Kerry doing a coverup to save Bronco Bama or Clinton. If pressure is put on Kerry, I'll bet he'll start scrambling to cover his own a$$, leaving them exposed. Kerry has no loyalty to party or country -- just to Kerry. Obama might have given himself a mortal wound by nominating fellow narcissist Kerry for SoS.

Posted by: Starboardhelm at May 03, 2013 07:40 PM (hHgxI)

286 I know I'm preaching to the choir and beating a dead horse but this is all because of the media. They decide what Americans will care about or get upset and outraged about. And as long as they don't care about these outrages, 'America' doesn't care or know.
They are the Praetorian Guard for the left and their governing philosophy for news dissemination is the old "If a tree falls in the ofrest and nobody is there ot Hear/report it, did it in fact really fall".

Posted by: LGoPs at May 03, 2013 08:23 PM (4x8W0)

287 "If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear/report it, did it in fact really fall".

I haet it when I don't proof read. There I did it again. Hate it...

Posted by: LGoPs at May 03, 2013 08:24 PM (4x8W0)

288 <blockquote>
I know I'm preaching to the choir and beating a dead horse
</blockquote>

You do know that's against the law in several states, right?

Posted by: Gov Weenie at May 03, 2013 09:29 PM (B/weO)

289 Nuland always had a hint of hotness to her IMHO. Of course she was lying non-stop...she worked for Clinton. But, I'd certainly do her.

Posted by: Dingbat at May 03, 2013 09:47 PM (PdHlY)

290 103
93 They let these men die.



They let them die...to Win an Election.



Posted by: wheatie at May 03, 2013 05:22 PM (3B3wv)

And I did my part to make sure Barky beat Mittens.

Posted by: candy crowley at May 03, 2013 10:36 PM (rznx3)

291 Obama and Hillary ought to hang for this, right next to Joker. And to think we were once worried about John Kerry's acts of treason. This makes him look like fucking Washington crossing the Delaware.

Posted by: RJ Wagner at May 03, 2013 11:36 PM (fcNCl)

292 Now the shitbag Kenyan says Mexico is gonna be different....IOW he is going to turn the place over to the narco=terrorists. wow,,,

Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2013 12:40 AM (9UoXO)

293
As a retired senior officer, I object to some of the more vociferous comments; folks in the chain of command can and do make mistakes, and most mistakes are not venal.
The crafting of these 'talking points,' however reveal an administration and beaucracy (State Dept) firmly focused on CYA, and shamelessly willing to make bald faced lies in public to hide their grotesque failings.
Best Regards,

Posted by: CAPT Mike at May 04, 2013 03:01 AM (DiQnH)

294 I have started to notice that some of the biggest petty tyrants and most unethical bureaucrats are women- from Janet Reno, Janet Nepalitano, Lisa Jackson on the tyrant side, to all these lying female managers and PR operatives (Stephanie Cutter got caught red-handed lying about PAC coordination with the Obama campaign, where are the criminal charges?) Are women more pliable to "the ends justify the means"?

Posted by: Smarty at May 04, 2013 09:26 AM (llVl9)

295 My god, what a travesty! Four people dead all because of politics, and no one wants to be honest about what happened because of - you guessed it - politics. It's not politics in the sense of electioneering, slogans, and kissing babies, no, this is politics in the sense of bad petty office politics. It's the politics of saving-your-own ass-and-throwing-your-pals-under-the-bus type of politics. More than anything else, this is the bloody handed Stalinist type of politics, where the ends justifies the means, and the unfortunate deaths of friends is considered collateral damage in the battle for a utopian dream that isn't humanly possible to achieve. The press won't report anything critical or ask honest questions, because to do so would jeopardize the cause. This current occupant of the White House cares nothing for anyone but himself, and he doesn't mind a body count. He lies, people die, and he shoots some hoops or another round of golf. I am still trying to figure out what country I am living in. This certainly is not America, and we aren't in Kansas anymore.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at May 05, 2013 12:24 AM (2/oBD)

296 When some one searches for his vital thing, so he/she wants to be available that in detail, therefore that thing is maintained over here.

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An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat