American Craft Beers Invade the German Market, Appealing to German Beer Drinkers Who Are Tired of the Limited Range of Flavors Permitted by the Beer Purity Law of 1516

“It’s easy to get decent beer in Germany. We call it boredom on a high level," says one German beer drinker.

The problem standards is that sometimes they become standard.

Interesting article from the WaPo, and maybe yet another reason for American chest-pounding. We beat the French at wine and now we're going to beat the Germans at beer.*


[U]nlike the United States, where in recent years many supermarkets have expanded their beer selection to include dozens of styles from the far reaches of the globe, most German stores have remained resolutely unvaried, almost always offering just a handful of manufacturers and only rarely throwing a non-German beer into the mix.

Now Rauschmann and others are proselytizing, traveling Germany to spread the gospel of unusual tastes. His company, Braufactum, is owned by German beer giant Radeberger, which Rauschmann said was trying to help spark a new beer culture in the country where it has been a major producer since 1872.

For some beer businesspeople, that change can’t happen fast enough.

“The German beer industry has to reinvent itself in a hurry, or it’s going to be a small fraction of what it is now,” said Eric Ottaway, the general manager of Brooklyn Brewery, which has been expanding in Europe and has been exporting its beer to Germany through Braufactum, which sells a 12-ounce bottle of Brooklyn Lager in upscale grocery stores for the equivalent of $4.20 — almost three times its typical American price.

* Bottle Shock with Jeff Daniels and Chris "Captain Kirk" Pine was a pretty good based-on-true-events Rocky-style movie about an upstart California vinter entering a France vs. America wine competition. It's not great, but it's good. It used to be free on Netflix.

Posted by: Ace at 08:05 PM



Comments

1 If we can beat the Germans with beer, than we should be able to beat the fucking Chinese with cars. But I'm not counting on it.

Posted by: RebelYankee at May 01, 2013 07:48 PM (VF2q2)

2 And the Texans beat the Scots at Whisky back in December, Balcones Distilling in Waco, TX won a blind tasting being called the Judgement of London. The article was in the NYT (I know, bad source, but it was a good writeup).

Posted by: Sean at May 01, 2013 07:48 PM (d5Sa2)

3 Italian wine is where it's at.

Posted by: stourma at May 01, 2013 07:49 PM (8k5/X)

4 Jeff Daniels...?

Bill Pullman.

Posted by: Dave at May 01, 2013 07:49 PM (9fERA)

5 Bill Pullman was in Bottle Shock, not Jeff Daniels.

Posted by: Aruges at May 01, 2013 07:50 PM (NqY9l)

6 A Texan whiskey? WTF.

Posted by: stourma at May 01, 2013 07:50 PM (8k5/X)

7 Mmmm.... beer

Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 01, 2013 07:51 PM (xKC/c)

8 OT - Happened upon some Miley Cyrus pictures in my travels. http://tinyurl.com/cf8rmlm Not too bad. And then I read the comments. Are people in the UK all gay? A lady gets half naked, and they all complain.
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Now whats the topic about?

Posted by: Up With People! at May 01, 2013 07:51 PM (FmFB3)

9 Beer!

Posted by: Rats Alley at May 01, 2013 07:55 PM (7yx0r)

10 "A Texan whiskey? WTF."
Posted by: stourma at May 01, 2013 07:50 PM (8k5/X)

----

Yup, taking the world by storm. Check out balconesdistilling.com

Here is the NYT article

http://tinyurl.com/awrgyo5

Posted by: Sean at May 01, 2013 08:09 PM (d5Sa2)

11 3
Italian whine is where it's at.


FIFY

Posted by: Beppe Grillo at May 01, 2013 08:09 PM (6TB1Z)

12 Beer is just a wonderful thing, and who knew it would be so good after any one of us drank that first one, which tasted like shit.

Com'on. You know you were thinking it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:09 PM (4Mv1T)

13

Howie Carr in for Mark Levin tonight!

Posted by: soothie at May 01, 2013 08:09 PM (/eLjI)

14 I don't like beer. Guess I should head back to the ice cream thread.

Posted by: madamemayhem at May 01, 2013 08:09 PM (S2RnE)

15 A lady gets half naked, and they all complain.

Sorry, but she's just not that good looking, and the pink hair and tattoos don't help.

Posted by: pep at May 01, 2013 08:11 PM (6TB1Z)

16 Ice cream is not an acquired taste. Beer, and whiskey for that matter, most certainly are. And what a taste I've acquired.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:11 PM (4Mv1T)

17 French ass got kicked in 1978 and 1986, too.

'Merica!

Posted by: Judgment of Paris at May 01, 2013 08:11 PM (SjVZP)

18 I lived in Germany a year and was underwhelmed with the beer, except the Weizens. In my not so humble opinion (lived in Ireland, England, Germany, and visited a lot of other places) America has a better selection of good, great, and downright strange beer than anywhere in the world, bar none.

Posted by: Gerard Harbison at May 01, 2013 08:11 PM (eUS4K)

19 German beers do get redundant.

Posted by: teh Wind at May 01, 2013 08:11 PM (o558S)

20 We also beat them at their national sport... in 1918 and 1945

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 01, 2013 08:13 PM (QTHTd)

21 Some American craft beer is better than a lot of foreign imports. I'm lookin at you Stella. And Heineken.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 08:13 PM (5wHPS)

22 Me no understand: Every other German town has its own brewery


They all taste the same? Maybe, but they taste good

Posted by: living in the Sequester World at May 01, 2013 08:13 PM (Dll6b)

23 Personally, I prefer an English Ale more so than a German beer, but to each his own.

I also happen to like cheap scotch, which by definition is not cheap, but a Moron has to have standards, and mine are pretty damn low.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:13 PM (4Mv1T)

24 I stopped into a pub in Frankfurt a long time ago, and they had a house beer. I can't remember what they called it, but they offered that along with commercial brands.

It was to die for. It was like a rich tasting lager, if that makes any sense. A little more gold-colored than other lagers, though. (So it might have been something else.) It had a very slight chocolatey-coffee aftertaste.

If I still drank, and if I was ever going to be anywhere near Frankfurt, I'd hunt that place down. Oh, my.

Anyone ever have a beer called Arnold Beer? Liquor stores used to sell it in, like, two or three gallon containers shaped like a giant can of beer. That was from Germany, I think, and it tasted similar to that pub beer.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 01, 2013 08:14 PM (Iyg03)

25 Orange Blossom Pilsner is a great Florida beer. Smaller beer companies are making the US market interesting.

Brew Fest Key West 2013 or bust!

Posted by: Beagle at May 01, 2013 08:16 PM (sOtz/)

26 Belgian beer is mucho good-o. Makes Belgians forget about the rampant child molesting going on in that strange country

Posted by: living in the Sequester World at May 01, 2013 08:16 PM (Dll6b)

27 the US AFB in Bitburg Germany was heated by the excess steam coming from the brewery. In the winter, the air smelled all yeasty.

Posted by: thunderb at May 01, 2013 08:16 PM (nH8jP)

28 german beers insist upon themselves.

Posted by: Peter Griffin at May 01, 2013 08:16 PM (LCRYB)

29 It's hard to believe that just a generation ago, American beer was synonymous with "bland" and "mass produced". I can remember when imported beer was a big deal.

Today, with the craft brewing revolution, there has probably never been such a dizzying variety of beer available in all history.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 08:17 PM (sdi6R)

30 what did they drink at the vaunted beer summit?

Posted by: thunderb at May 01, 2013 08:18 PM (nH8jP)

31
Brew Fest Key West 2013 or bust!Posted by: Beagle at May 01, 2013 08:16 PM (sOtz/)
===============
Stay away from Kelly's...beer sucks. The Porch and Krawl off Duval have excellent craft selections.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 08:18 PM (5wHPS)

32 Spatenbrau is good; from somewhere around Karlsruhe, I think.



Posted by: living in the Sequester World at May 01, 2013 08:18 PM (Dll6b)

33 29--

you could say the same thing about pRon

Posted by: ace at May 01, 2013 08:18 PM (LCRYB)

34 Me no understand: Every other German town has its own brewery...
Posted by: living in the Sequester World at May 01, 2013 08:13 PM (Dll6b)

Yeah, but every other town in Colorado has it's own brewery as well. Often more than one and each doing it's own thing. Have no idea if they're good though since I only use beer for cooking.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:19 PM (lVb7s)

35 Bitburg? We used to kick your ass in high school basketball, back in the day

Posted by: Karlsruhe Knights, kicking flyboy ass at May 01, 2013 08:19 PM (Dll6b)

36 it almost like if you reduce the regulations, and allow market forces to prevail, the market will produce a dizzying selection of goods

Posted by: thunderb at May 01, 2013 08:20 PM (nH8jP)

37 And so begins the Great Beer Wars.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at May 01, 2013 08:21 PM (HiKk0)

38 >>>Belgian beer is mucho good-o.

There was a place in Antwerp that at that time was listed in the Guiness Book as having the biggest selection of beers, over a thousand. The locals I talked to were nice, and they treated me to some beers they were very proud of, the Trappist beers.

Those were great, but one was "sweet" and was kind of gross.

After looking at the wall of beer for about 30 minutes I spotted cans of Budweiser. The Bud had been sitting there so long up near a flourescent light that the red paint on the cans was fading to pink.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 01, 2013 08:21 PM (Iyg03)

39 I really enjoy going to the bokze barn and buying single beers with goofy labels and labels that imply anything esoteric. Sometime you win sometimes you lose. Pecker Wreckerfrom Rahr Brewery was the last one I bought.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:21 PM (zEeUf)

40
While serving in the US Army while in S. Korea I had the opportunity to sample (Cold War) Polish and Czech beer. Hands down...Czech Pilsner is one of the best beers I've ever had. Got in a little trouble for "fratenizing" with the Warsaw Pact. Worldly man I is.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 01, 2013 08:21 PM (wYShC)

41 Oh...

BOTTLE shock.

With an "o".

I thought, it being Germany...never mind.

Posted by: Bob, Person of Hench at May 01, 2013 08:22 PM (Lr5E0)

42 Colorado's beers are excellent.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 01, 2013 08:22 PM (QTHTd)

43 The Germans do make excellent beers . Hell , where would Americans be without the Germans to get us started .
What surprises me is that the Germans don't play around with their hop formulas . You can do a lot with just hops and not run afoul of the German beer law . A lot of high end American Ipa's are just fresh hopped , giving them a good distinctive flavor . They Got that grapefruit flavor thing goin' on .
Currently drinking a homemade ipa sans dry hopping .
Tasty !
A friend makes his ipa's with loads of Cascade hops , also very tasty .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 08:22 PM (USjX1)

44 Heineken is not a German beer. That shit you get here is brewed just for the American market.

And to enjoy German beer, don't buy that bottled stuff. Every hinky town in Germany has at least one or two "Gasthäuser" that brew their own beer and believe me, everyone tastes different.

Posted by: Ma Bell at May 01, 2013 08:22 PM (RLdcX)

45 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:19 PM (lVb7s)


/wave

Late happy birthday to you! (It was this weekend, wasn't it?)

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:23 PM (oY6Yp)

46 >>Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 01, 2013 08:21 PM (wYShC)<<



Would that have been Pilsner Urquel by any chance? (and yes I may have spelled that wrong)

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:23 PM (SCTXH)

47
>>>it almost like if you reduce the regulations, and allow market forces to
prevail, the market will produce a dizzying selection of goods


It was like that a long time ago here, and then many breweries went away, and are now making a comeback. It's been a long sweeping cycle.

My senior project in business school was assigned to me by one of the professors. The assignment was on the American brewing industry. What beer swilling college senior wouldn't have a blast with that, I ask you??

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:23 PM (4Mv1T)

48
Trappist ales are pretty rich and potent. I could be a fat happy monk if it came down to it as long as the beer was brought to my table by a ginger or a big chested brown native girl. Just sayin...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:24 PM (zEeUf)

49 Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:23 PM (oY6Yp)

Thanks! Yes it was, didn't know you knew.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:24 PM (lVb7s)

50 Beer ha. OK I did my part. Took the family out to Arthur Ave in the Bronx and had some good italian food and some scotch and beer.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2013 08:24 PM (jE38p)

51 >>>Colorado's beers are excellent.

Breckenridge Brewery makes a very nice selection.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 01, 2013 08:24 PM (Iyg03)

52 You knuckleheads crave the validation of your rightwing hops and barley.

WHAT ARE YOUR TOP 5 LAGERS?!! GIVE ME YOUR TOP FIVE LAGERS!!!!

Posted by: Ergdrew Ergbert at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (LCRYB)

53 aw polliwog!!!!!! happy happy birthday!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (GVxQo)

54 German beers do get redundant.

Which is probably why they mix it with such random shit.

Beer and lemonade...loved that, will do that at home.
Beer and lemon-lime soda...that was OK, not for a first beer.
Beer and Fanta...well, I *had* been drinking...
Beer and Coca-Cola...what the fuck is wrong with you fucks?


Today, with the craft brewing revolution, there has probably never been
such a dizzying variety of beer available in all history.


And some of them are really disgusting. Just keep throwing in hops until you can't taste anything else, then add oregano.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (hO8IJ)

55 I had a few Lagunitas Fusion 16s the other night, excellent hoppy beer weighing in at 4.9% ABV. You can drink it allll night.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (5wHPS)

56 44 Heineken is not a German beer. That shit you get here is brewed just for the American market.

Posted by: Ma Bell at May 01, 2013 08:22 PM (RLdcX)


Dutch Amsterdam not Dutch Volkswagen.

Posted by: alex® at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (q7WBr)

57 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:24 PM (lVb7s)

You posted it on some ONT, I think. No secrets on teh Internets.

Is why I took my b-day off my Facebook. = P

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (sGtp+)

58
I couldn't read the bottle, Maud'dib. They insisted upon printing the label in Czechosolvakian. Nice guys working for the Neutral Nations (Security Council). On the other side we had the Swiss and Swedes. Better looking wimmens but kinda stuckup.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (wYShC)

59 America! Fuck yeah!!!

Posted by: fastfreefall at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (Tz35j)

60 Posted by: Ma Bell at May 01, 2013 08:22 PM (RLdcX)

My parents liked traveling around when my dad was stationed at Spangdalem (sp?) but my dad doesn't drink beer because his first job was in a grocery store removing the bottles of beer that had gone "off" so that's something I don't get to hear about. They tried various wines but beer just never happened.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (lVb7s)

61 After looking at the wall of beer for about 30 minutes I spotted cans of Budweiser.

It took me three days in Vienna to realize the "Budweiser" on the menus was from Budweis, not St. Louis.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (hO8IJ)

62 Heck, Lincoln NE has at least 6 microbreweries, plus a little storefront 20 miles south of town called Monkey Wrench where they produce beer that I swear also contains illegal pharmaceuticals. Where Europe has massive government and EU regulation, most states have embraced beer libertarianism, which is even better than the regular kind.

You can get better beer in an American supermarket than in a high-end liquor store in England.

Posted by: Gerard Harbison at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (eUS4K)

63 Love me some craft beer. Especially a good IPA. Never a better time to be a beer drinker.

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (NLEWE)

64 Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (sGtp+)

After I wrote that I remembered jewells and I condoling each other for April sucking so much this year.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:29 PM (lVb7s)

65 Guinness only tastes good in Ireland, from the tap


"doesn't travel well"

Posted by: every Irishman you've ever heard at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (Dll6b)

66 After I wrote that I remembered jewells and I condoling each other for April sucking so much this year.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:29 PM (lVb7s)



April's dead and gone, so here's to a new month!

Oh hrm... time to pay rent.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (oY6Yp)

67 libeertarianism. I like it.

Now if we can just figure out how to brew health care...

Posted by: alex® at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (q7WBr)

68
Top 5 lagers?
Urquell Pilsner
Maredsous Ale
Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA
Full Sail IPA
Pecker Wrecker Imperial Pilsner
La Fin du Monde Ale
There's no such thing as a top 100 lager let alone a top 5.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (bxpf3)

69 Oh hrm... time to pay rent.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (oY6Yp)

*Very* important to remember that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:31 PM (lVb7s)

70
I remember arriving in Germany after becoming a PX Hero on that 3.2 shit we drank and getting shitfaced on 6 bottles of some dark beer,name escapes me.

Oktoberfest in Munich, one gigantic drunkoff--I miss that sometimes. Germans do make a variety of good beer, imho.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2013 08:31 PM (SAMxH)

71 What a Moron Meet-up should devolve into - a pie fight.

From The Great Race starring Natalie Wood, Tony Curtis, Jack Lemon, Peter Falk, and Keenan Wynne.

http://youtu.be/SDJQ7zn3-2g

"I never mix my pies!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:31 PM (ULEme)

72 >>Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (wYShC)
<<



Ah. Got it. The beer I may have misspelled and am too lazy to google was brewed in Pilsen. The first time I drank it I may have had a beer O. Prior to that I was a Miller Hi Life low information drinker. I got better.



Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:31 PM (SCTXH)

73 Met a guy at the beer tap at Greenes in Columbia S.C. who's trying to get a microbrewery started up . He's jumped through all the hoops like a circus dog but is still waiting for the federal beaurocracy to get off it's collective ass .
C'mon feds , the guy is just trying to open a business and make some beer . He ain't tryin' to make machine guns . Although , I'd support that business too .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 08:31 PM (USjX1)

74 Not a beer connoisseur here. Used to drink lots of it, but don't know much about the different types. Have even done some home brewing for the fun of it. I have my own keg cooler/dispenser and haven't bought a keg in years.

Posted by: Ronster at May 01, 2013 08:32 PM (ndfWf)

75 I have drunk a lot, and I mean a fucking lot, of both German and American beers. My favorite "mass market" German beer is Bitburger (you can get it in the States but it's not at all the same as the one you get in Germany), my favorite European beer in general was a Czech Pilsner, not Budweis, but something like it. My favorite "mass market"American beer is Sam Adams Boston Lager, which beats the shit out of most German beers. My current favorite "premium" American beer is 'Arrogant Bastard Ale" by the Stone Brewing Co. out of California. There's a local brewery here in W-S that makes a great stout in December only, so that can't really count as a favorite.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2013 08:33 PM (ZshNr)

76 Its only because of the Germans I will drink bier. Though only in Germany so I am pretty much safe from drinking beer every again, unless I win a lottery.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:33 PM (ULEme)

77 But their beer is served by ladies with humongous bazzooms, so technically, they still beat us.

Posted by: waldo at May 01, 2013 08:33 PM (sXWmd)

78 54
And some of them are really disgusting. Just keep throwing in hops until you can't taste anything else, then add oregano.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (hO8IJ)


I tried my hand at homebrewing several years ago, but gave it up. I just wasn't good at it.

It's like cooking. Some people have a knack for it, while others can barely boil water without screwing it up.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 08:34 PM (sdi6R)

79 >>76
Its only because of the Germans I will drink bier. Though only in
Germany so I am pretty much safe from drinking beer every again, unless I
win a lottery.<<



But you do drink vodka in your waffle cones, so - you know - you would fit right in here in WI.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:34 PM (SCTXH)

80 >>>There's no such thing as a top 100 lager let alone a top 5.

I don't always drink beer, but when I do, it's not a lager.

Stay thirsty my friends.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Man in the World at May 01, 2013 08:34 PM (4Mv1T)

81 let me tell you a little about Japanese beer.
The Japanese are very very good at copying, learning, and improving things, and are very good at quality foods. Keep that in mind.

Now for some reason, beer was taxed at a higher rate than sake. Maybe a form of protectionism since beer is a fur-in-er drink, I don't know. This tax was based on the level of malt used in production. However, some imports used low enough proportions of malt, so they were not officially "beer" and had low tax and this gave the Japanese beer producers a disadvantage. The Japanese brewers responded by producing low malt beers. The response from the tax and regulate state was to lower the level of malt required for the highest tax, and creating a lower tax for drinks with lower levels of malt.

The brewers responded by creating Happoshu, a low malt "beer" that was taxed at a low rate. It turns out that people really don't care so much about the taste if the beer is cheap enough, so Happoshu became popular, lowering the tax revenue to the state. Can't have that, so the state responded by lowering the malt proportions required for the "beer" tax. The brewers responded by creating some of the worst tasting crap every to be put in a can, made with very low malt, or even no malt. This is called happousei (which i think is Japanese for fuck you you fucking fucks) or something. Not sure since whenever I drink it all my mind remembers is "piss water".

Well, this piss water is now very popular, (since it is cheap, maybe 50 cent per can cheaper than happoshou, and a lot cheaper than real beer, since that is all now sold as a "premium" product.

Competition being what it is, the brewers started competing for the best commercials, the best slogans, the best can color, who can say the word "Dry" in the deepest voice, and what not, but all the while selling piss water.

It is now cheaper for me to buy 0% beer with all the malt and no alcohol (hence, low tax), and to put a shot of alcohol in it (35% pure sold for canning fruits - no malt, so low tax) and drink that. cost about 100yen, while a can of shit beer costs me about 200 yen and a good import is about 300 yen.

Most restaurants don't sell the cheap crap, but they sell a lot of imports (corona).

The moral -- a tax and regulate state, trying to *protect* the native industry ended up destroying it.

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (zZJJp)

82 Yuengling!

Posted by: Guy from Pennsylvania that says Yuengling at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (q7WBr)

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (ULEme)

84
I love those giant outdoor beer gardens they have in Munich.

Posted by: waldo at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (sXWmd)

85 It's been my experience that German beer sucks. It's got this metallic taste to it; it's like drinking pennies.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (LScnt)

86 why did Miley Cyrus decide to go all skank? It is really rather revolting. I mean what sort of stupid bint gets a tattoo under her breast that says "just because"


oooo, how edgy what rebel you are Miley. Way to poke a finger in the eye of all the young kids who supported your music career. Let us know how your albums are going now that you aren't a Disney bubblegum princess anymore.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (RZ8pf)

87
Brew Kettle "White Rajah"
Great Lakes 'Rye of the Tiger"
Oskar Blues "Deviant Dale's IPS"
Fullers "ESB"
Troeg's "Nectar Nugget"
Bell's "Two Hearted Ale"

Mmmmmmmmm.... brb. Gettin a beer.

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (NLEWE)

88 *Very* important to remember that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 01, 2013 08:31 PM (lVb7s)



Was going overseas for half a month, and happened to mention the vacation offhand to my landlord.

"So you'll be mailing the rent in then?"

*blink*

"Uh ... Here, let me pay next month's rent in advance."

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (v3pYe)

89 IPA sucks. I don't know what everyone is talking about. It's like this place is being overrun by hipsters. Next you'll tell me PBR is good for drinking ironically.

Posted by: wooga, rice beer ain't bad at May 01, 2013 08:36 PM (Sq+6U)

90
>>I may have had a beer O.
We usually sat up in the barracks sucking down *Schlitz so, yeah, I get the Big O. I have pretty low standards (obviously) and that pilsner was nectar of the Gods. I think I could drink one today and I would be able to identify it. Good Stuff.

*Schlitz was all we could get on our ration cards.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 01, 2013 08:36 PM (wYShC)

91 Leffe Blond, fantastic beers. Laphroaig Quarter Cask, fantastic scotch.

Posted by: stourma at May 01, 2013 08:37 PM (8k5/X)

92
IPAs don't suck at all. Once you acquire a taste for them, they're outstanding--balanced, complex, refreshing...
Providing you get a good one, of course. A bad IPA is just a bitter bomb.

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:38 PM (NLEWE)

93 >>>85 It's been my experience that German beer sucks.

You can get a Paulaner hefeweisen at a lot of places. It is not like pennies.

Posted by: wooga, at May 01, 2013 08:38 PM (Sq+6U)

94 So that explains how Happousei got named in Ranma.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:38 PM (ULEme)

95
Love me some craft beer. Especially a good IPA. Never a better time to be a beer drinker.Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:27 PM (NLEWE)
----------------------------
this +1000

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 08:39 PM (5wHPS)

96 82 Yuengling!

Posted by: Guy from Pennsylvania that says Yuengling at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (q7WBr)



Anakin completed his descent into the dark side when he murdered all the yeunglings.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:39 PM (oY6Yp)

97 #93: Hefeweizens are generally okay; maybe I'll give that one a try sometime, then.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:39 PM (LScnt)

98 Anyone who says ipa's suck is a comsymp .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 08:40 PM (USjX1)

99
"IPA sucks. I don't know what everyone is talking about. It's like this place is being overrun by hipsters."

Get off my lawn. I bet youswill soylattes at Starbucks.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:40 PM (bxpf3)

100 why did Miley Cyrus decide to go all skank? It is really rather revolting. I mean what sort of stupid bint gets a tattoo under her breast that says "just because"


oooo, how edgy what rebel you are Miley. Way to poke a finger in the eye of all the young kids who supported your music career. Let us know how your albums are going now that you aren't a Disney bubblegum princess anymore.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (RZ8pf)
----
REEERRRR!

You know what beer sucks? No beer. Like I have right now. I deserve a shot of whiskey for not having beer, but don't have that either.

Posted by: Up With People! at May 01, 2013 08:40 PM (FmFB3)

101 Also in Germany: beer at McDonalds.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 01, 2013 08:40 PM (Iyg03)

102
Any beer nerd looking for a mind blowing experience should pick up a bottle of Rochefort 10 Trappistes. As the name indicates, it's brewed by monks in a an abbey that's been brewing since the late 1500's.
$6 for a 12 oz bottle. And holy fuck is it worth every penny.

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (NLEWE)

103 McDonalds unt Deutchland? Nein nein nein! Jaeger schnitzel!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (ULEme)

104 Highland Gaelic Ale, brewed in Asheville, NC.

Some damn good beer

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (4Mv1T)

105 I'd rather have a Root Beer.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (k29T4)

106 @100
You in prison bro or a dry county?

Posted by: fastfreefall at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (Tz35j)

107 So, a lager is the heavier stuff and a pilsner the lighter stuff?

I'll just have an ice cold tall neck Bud with my fried crappie and fried potatoes/onions and cole slaw. Thanks.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (J3IzX)

108
Cans of cold Heineken in every vending machine, 'tis a magical place.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2013 08:41 PM (ZshNr)

109 I don't mind IPAs once in a while, but not for everyday drinking.

I mean, uhh, if I were the sort who drinks every day, that is.

Whew. My shameful secret remains safe. Wait, did I just say that out loud?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:42 PM (LScnt)

110 Anyone who says ipa's suck is a comsymp .

Or they have more than two working tastebuds.

Just chew on some hops pellets.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 08:42 PM (hO8IJ)

111
I got introduced to Schwabenbrau and Dinkel-Acker when I was in my twenties. They were like drinking a milkshake compared to the thin, mass-produced American beers. Thus began my journey to find the perfect beer.

I'm still looking, but Guinness is awfully close.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 01, 2013 08:42 PM (+z4pE)

112 PW, it was the beer typing there. Yeah that's the ticket.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:42 PM (ULEme)

113 82 Yuengling!
Posted by: Guy from Pennsylvania that says Yuengling at May 01, 2013 08:35 PM (q7WBr)


Seconded!

Yes, I know this thread is about craft beers and niche beers, but I'm 1) lazy, 2) cheap, and 3) a creature of habit, so Yuengling is my usual go-to beer. I'm drinking one right now.

Still, it's nice knowing that I could be drinking all sorts of exotic and tasty craft beers, if I wanted to.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (sdi6R)

114 Guinness has a special place all it's own.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (ZshNr)

115 Hey how about the egyptian beers? Looks like piss and taste like it too!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (jE38p)

116
Here's the Beer Advocate link for Rochefort 10.
http://tinyurl.com/2pgw2l

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (NLEWE)

117 OK, I broke a rule and googled "Prothonotary". Because I care. I was on point. Took one for the team. You get my drift.


Let me guess. I'm the only one who didn't know that word.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (SCTXH)

118 >>>You know what beer sucks? No beer. Like I have right
now. I deserve a shot of whiskey for not having beer, but don't have
that either.

Posted by: Up With People!


*clinks imaginary glass*

It's bone dry here at the "Road" house tonight, too. I heard this muffled whimpering last night. Pretty sure it was my liver sobbing, "Uncle, Uncle!"

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (4Mv1T)

119
100>> I dont have any either but here, have a glass of 12yr Glen Moranje.

Slides one down....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (bxpf3)

120 McDonalds unt Deutchland? Nein nein nein! Jaeger schnitzel!

McDonalds has free bathrooms, and better coffee than the rest areas with the pay bathrooms.

I'm just sayin'.

Laughed my ass off at "Der Big Tasty", though.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 08:44 PM (hO8IJ)

121 When I was a young buck I spent some time in a little logging town in Northern Ca. We used to get a beer called Buckhorn .
2.11$ a twelvepack . It made PBR seem like Stella Artois . It was that bad .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 08:45 PM (USjX1)

122 >> Yuengling!

Fond memories of going to the distributor and picking up cases of yuengling returnables.

It was my first wife that drove me to drink,.... never did thank her for that.

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at May 01, 2013 08:45 PM (zZJJp)

123 Haven't had a San Miguel for quite some time.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2013 08:45 PM (i8bnm)

124 #117: I just know the word "prothonotary" from the warbler I use as my name here, a bird who served our country well by ratting out Alger Hiss.

I'm afraid to ask what other meaning it might have.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:45 PM (LScnt)

125
IPA is disgusting.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 08:45 PM (k29T4)

126 @ 101

Here's one for you, rd--8/9 year old kids drinking beer like it was water--from those fliptop bottles.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2013 08:46 PM (SAMxH)

127 this thread is making me want a gin and tonic.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 01, 2013 08:46 PM (RZ8pf)

128 Sorry Heather in the month I was in Germany visited McDonald's exactly once. Ein Big Mac bitte. Prefer eating at local places.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:47 PM (ULEme)

129 @ 107 a truly divine dinner!

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at May 01, 2013 08:47 PM (HVff2)

130 when I was in college the Utica Club Brewer tour up in Utica NY was a way to spend a few hours

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2013 08:48 PM (jE38p)

131 121 awkward,

I had some of that. Awful stuff. Maybe better than
Olympia though.

Posted by: Ronster at May 01, 2013 08:48 PM (ndfWf)

132 In East Texas it's Shiner Bock, unless you have a bit o'Oirish in ye, and it's St. Patricks Day. Then it's Smithwicks. And if you want to get wiped slick? Guinness Stout. Or, if you are headed to Houston this weekend, to the NRA convention, it's whatever the draft is at Hooter's.

Posted by: EROWMER at May 01, 2013 08:48 PM (kxlCQ)

133
I used to hate IPA's, too, gravitating more toward brown ales, porters and stouts.
Now I'm a full fledged hop head.
It's an acquired taste, but once you get there there's nothing better. 'Cept a Belgian double or quadruple, maybe.

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:48 PM (NLEWE)

134 Okay, I looked up prothonotary; nothing to worry about. I was a little worried that the search would lead me to Urban Dictionary or something.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:49 PM (LScnt)

135 >>Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 01, 2013 08:46 PM (RZ8pf)<<



Just made myself one. Here *slides it over to PGiS*. I'll make another.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:49 PM (SCTXH)

136 I'm such a dickhead and fuckwad, stay thirsty my friends

Posted by: Your president baraky at May 01, 2013 08:50 PM (HVff2)

137 Speaking of Germany and beer, who is going to see Iron Man 3???

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:50 PM (ULEme)

138 123>>> and the problem with that would be......? Red Horse on the other hand, at a little place called the Roufadora just behind the fide station off MagsaysayBlvd. gottahave aBalut to go with it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:50 PM (GwLJQ)

139 Speaking of Germany and beer, who is going to see Iron Man 3??


*raises hand*

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 08:51 PM (doBIb)

140 Heather @ 110 .
Now I see you are not of the body .

///

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 08:51 PM (USjX1)

141 82 Yuengling!

Any native PAian takes great pride in their state having the oldest brewery in the United States.

Posted by: Grand Admiral Thrawn at May 01, 2013 08:51 PM (JqnAE)

142 If it wasn't for this hard cold front coming through I'd have thought I'd have a chance at catching some crappie this weekend. Maybe it'll warm up next week and they'll start making little runs into the bank.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 08:53 PM (PcFsV)

143 I used to drink Yuengling Black and Tans

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:53 PM (4Mv1T)

144 The problem standards is that sometimes they become standard.


The problem grammrs is that sometimes they grammar.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 01, 2013 08:53 PM (7x9pP)

145 Radish and Garrett - serious you guys? You hate IPA? My oldest found an "extra" IPA called Torpedo. I think from Sierra Nevada. Enough hops to make the voyage from England to India? Not enough. Double it. I get me some hop nirvana on that stuff.


But my fav beer is still Summit EPA from MSP.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:53 PM (SCTXH)

146 Interesting thing about Yuengling ... I was all about it when it wasn't distributed in Ohio. Once it was, it became far less intriguing. Funny how that works. It's still a good lager, though.

Posted by: Warden at May 01, 2013 08:53 PM (NLEWE)

147 137 Speaking of Germany and beer, who is going to see Iron Man 3???

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 08:50 PM (ULEme)



Committed to not bankrolling Hollywood after the re-election of Focker. Will settle for random pics/cosplays of the World's Most Beautiful Woman in the ONTs.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 08:54 PM (oY6Yp)

148 So, we make a better wine than the French, it's not like they're ever going to come to our national aid or harm us. They're not even in the picture.

As for Germany... that's more complex. If they like our beer, they might keep us from been crushed by the Chinese hordes. However, if they think we're encroaching on their gig, they might want us to be crushed by the Chinese hordes so they can once again be King of Beer Mountain.

What we really have to do is figure out what liquor the Chinese cannot live without, and then perfect it. Then then can't destroy us!

/or they will destroy us and take our recipes. Why do geopolitics have to be so confusing?

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2013 08:54 PM (z63Tr)

149 #147: Gwyneth Paltrow does cosplay?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (LScnt)

150 Hey Teej - yesterday was 84. Tonight it is snowing. An hour north of here they are going to see maybe a foot. Fishing opener is Saturday and we have a foot of ice on the lakes.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (SCTXH)

151 All this talk of craft beer makes me think of the alcoholics turned pruno-meisters in iraq because they didnt have an "in" with the folks that could get the real shit. Funny as heck.

Posted by: fastfreefall at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (Tz35j)

152 Will settle for random pics/cosplays of the World's Most Beautiful Woman in the ONTs.


Aww, thanks CM!!

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (doBIb)

153 Oh I remember Buckhorn, quantity not quality

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (HVff2)

154 I can't get an IPA half of the way to my mouth before I want to vomit from the odor. Smells like the trough in the Men's Room.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (k29T4)

155 Prefer eating at local places.

I've never actually eaten a meal at German McDs, just coffee. Which is about all I ever get at American McDs anymore, either.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 08:56 PM (hO8IJ)

156 What we really have to do is figure out what liquor the Chinese cannot live without, and then perfect it. Then then can't destroy us!


Kentucky bourbon. It's a "thing" over there.

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 08:56 PM (doBIb)

157
>> Yuengling!


A true Pennsylvanian knows to say "Lager"

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 08:56 PM (5wHPS)

158 Not that I think Paltrow is the World's Most Beautiful Woman, but People bestowed that title on her for some reason.

As a fellow Moron pointed out, she wasn't even the most attractive woman on that People cover.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:56 PM (LScnt)

159 Not sure where WaPo is getting their information. I just spent three years in Germany and the two large German stores I frequented dedicated about 1/3 of the store to beer and alcohol. Must have been 40 brands of beer.

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 08:57 PM (ZolUS)

160 EC- Not to harsh the buzz in this here beer thread, but I couldn't find word one this afternoon regarding that vote we were waiting on. You see anything?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:57 PM (4Mv1T)

161 mmm thanks for the gin and tonic.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 01, 2013 08:57 PM (RZ8pf)

162 Screw it, I'm still looking for a Belgian beer I drank in college, about 100 years ago. It was called Sezoens. Skunkiest crap you ever smelled, and it was the best stuff I ever drank. It's not made anymore that I can find. Sigh...

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at May 01, 2013 08:57 PM (d6TfZ)

163
Free the Beers!!! (and free beer too).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 01, 2013 08:58 PM (jKWYf)

164 Tobacco,I was away from the blog this afternoon. What vote was this?

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 08:58 PM (doBIb)

165 See garrett , this is how I know you're gay .
nttatwwt.

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 08:58 PM (USjX1)

166 EC- The "carry" vote we were talking about.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 08:59 PM (4Mv1T)

167 >>Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (k29T4)<<



So you know to use vaseline to keep your line from freezing to your guides but hate hops. And you owe me a keyboard from earlier.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 08:59 PM (SCTXH)

168 From the land of Skyblue Waters.....HAMMS...The Beer refreshing....YUK

Posted by: Rats Alley at May 01, 2013 09:00 PM (7yx0r)

169 158
Not that I think Paltrow is the World's Most Beautiful Woman, but People bestowed that title on her for some reason.

As a fellow Moron pointed out, she wasn't even the most attractive woman on that People cover.

xx

Gweneth Paltrow: Has World's Best Agent.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2013 09:00 PM (z63Tr)

170 Radish and Garrett - serious you guys? You hate IPA?

I'm not gonna legislate it out of existence or anything, but after about three tablespoons of an IPA I'm ready to pour it out and move on to something drinkable.

I need to drive up to WI pretty soon; Indianapolis-area brewers are mostly hops-freaks and the companies I like won't distribute to Indiana.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 09:00 PM (hO8IJ)

171 Skunkiest crap you ever smelled

Piker.

Posted by: Mickey's Wide Mouth at May 01, 2013 09:01 PM (vbh31)

172 Tobacco, WRAL is showing nothing. I can't find anything.

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 09:01 PM (doBIb)

173 what is I P A?

Posted by: thunderb at May 01, 2013 09:01 PM (nH8jP)

174 "I can't get an IPA half of the way to my mouth before I want to vomit from the odor. Smells like the trough in the Men's Room."

Damn Garret what kinda place are you drinking at?? At my slurp-n-burp they have piss cookies that smell like the shithouse door on a tuna boat.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (dW//4)

175 157
>> Yuengling!


A true Pennsylvanian knows to say "Lager"
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 08:56 PM (5wHPS)


I prefer Chesterfield Ale myself. The lager is meh.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

176 #170: Leinenkugel doesn't even distribute in Indiana? Weird, they've been selling in Colorado for a few years now.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (LScnt)

177 Shiner Bock. Not new. Not improved.

Tito's Vodka consistently beats all the world's "best".

Guess where I live. Yep, Heaven.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (JIHPI)

178
Skunkiest crap you ever smelled


you talking about me again? I'm a bit yeasty and hoppy down there!

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (nH8jP)

179 Been warm, warm here for a few days too Mr dib. Tomorrow, high in the thirties and snow.

And this "fishing opener" thing kills me. No such thing around here. Fish for whatever, whenever. I'm guessing you're talking about walleye which we have here but not like up there.
Bucket list. Go north. Fill a cooler with walleye and another with yellow perch. I figure those perch gotta be some fine eatin' too.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:03 PM (Nsomq)

180 So is my new hash any good?

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 01, 2013 09:03 PM (xw77v)

181 Meh. Lousy grumpy hash.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 01, 2013 09:03 PM (xw77v)

182 >>I need to drive up to WI pretty soon;
Indianapolis-area brewers are mostly hops-freaks and the companies I
like won't distribute to Indiana.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 01, 2013 09:00 PM (hO8IJ)<<

When you do, keep coming 4-5 hours NW of your prior stomping grounds and I would be happy to show you less hoppy local alternatives. Provided you bring chocolate cream pie....

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 09:03 PM (SCTXH)

183 65
Guinness only tastes good in Ireland, from the tap
"doesn't travel well"
Posted by: every Irishman you've ever heard at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (Dll6b)

Oh yeah! Freakin' Awesome.

Posted by: trainer says LIB at May 01, 2013 09:04 PM (eVgJn)

184 India Pale Ale.

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 09:04 PM (doBIb)

185 It was Alan Rickman, Bill Pullman and Chris Pine (sporting a very bad wig) in Bottle Shock. Quite a good little movie. I am now the film scold.

Posted by: jules at May 01, 2013 09:04 PM (JGqgw)

186 Bottle Shock was Bill Pullman, Chris Pine and Alan Rickman. Jeff Daniels was not in the movie

Posted by: JCELEPHANT at May 01, 2013 09:04 PM (9zbRc)

187 >>>So is my new hash any good?

Posted by: Grumpy Cat


Taste a little like corned beef. Cook it some more.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 09:04 PM (4Mv1T)

188 Tobacco, it's HB 937.

Postponed till the 6th of May.

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 09:05 PM (doBIb)

189 I have tried beer all over the world and have determined genuine Heineken is the best. Unfortunately, you have to go to Holland to get it. The stuff they export - even to Europe - is full of perservatives and tastes like ass.

The 'real' stuff has a four month shelf life and is only sold in Holland. In the old days, you could identify it by the brown bottle and the red star (the export version had a white star); however, many years ago they started using the red star on both versions.

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 09:05 PM (3qKP/)

190 I remember one of my college dormmates had a six-pack of Olde Frothingslosh. Tasted about as bad as the "lady" looked on the can.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 01, 2013 09:05 PM (+z4pE)

191 Not a big IPA fan. If it's going to be a beer, Leffe or believe it or not on a hot day, a cold Coors Light. Why, because it's a small step up from water.

Posted by: stourma at May 01, 2013 09:06 PM (8k5/X)

192
Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:03 PM (Nsomq)

Crappie. That's what you want to be eating if you are eating Green Fish.
I on the otherhand will spend tomorrow reefing on 5-6 lb Kamloops Rainbows. Too bad I can only bonk 5 of them.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:06 PM (k29T4)

193 Thanks EC. I thought, Wral AND NandO just gonna bury this story??

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 09:06 PM (4Mv1T)

194 >>173
what is I P A?<<


thunderb - when the brits were in colony mode in India, they discovered that their normal beers went bad quickly in the heat. Either on the ships in transit or in storage in India. They found that if they significantly increased the hops content, the increased hop oil reached a level where the beer kept long enough to be of use. They called it India Pale Ale.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 09:07 PM (SCTXH)

195 In the old days, you could identify it by the brown bottle and the red star

Hold the Red Star proudly high in hand!

Posted by: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx at May 01, 2013 09:07 PM (uRskg)

196 Tobacco, they don't want people to know. I don't use them for local news.

Since we're talking German beer, maybe a special ONT pic tonight.

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 09:08 PM (doBIb)

197 For a change of pace German beer, try a bottle of Schlenkerla, a Rauchbier made in Bamberg. The base style is a marzen/oktoberfest but its made with a large amount of beechwood smoked malt. It tends to be a polarizing beer so you'll likely love it or hate it, but either way is worth trying if you've never had it before. They make a smoked weizen and a smoked bock too, but the marzen version is the best to me.
If you haven't tried Pilsner Urquell in a while, they are now shipping all their beer in refrigerated containers and full boxes to protect from light and it is now stored cool at distributors. The bottled version didn't always travel well especially if it then sat dusty on a shelf. They've made a major effort to protect the flavor of the beer and it's made a big difference. The version I hadfrom acantasted nearlyidentical to a draftin a side by side tasting, so give the cans a shot too. Pilsner Urquell is sublime and one of the reasons that pilsners will maintain a placein the goodbeer revolution.

Posted by: Bawappitis at May 01, 2013 09:08 PM (NjCMi)

198 PGiS - I used Hendricks gin on that one.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 09:08 PM (SCTXH)

199 Before Carlsberg bought Elephant Beer you could really only get it at the brewery, where you were encouraged to lash yourself to the bar as a safety precaution. 14% alcohol content.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 01, 2013 09:08 PM (JIHPI)

200 Most German beer tastes like good beer that's gone past its "sell by" date. Everything worth knowing about beer making is known in that region of the world occupied by Ireland, Scotland, and England. I've had some fine American craft brews, but they've all tasted like good Irish, Scots, or English beers. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as they recognize that mine is the correct one.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 01, 2013 09:08 PM (ymovd)

201 I hope they won't forget to import these fine beers straight from the White House and our Brewmeister-in-Chief.

http://tinyurl.com/4oujsgr

Posted by: naturalfake at May 01, 2013 09:09 PM (G9qZk)

202 Ace, you should be schilling Mangria!

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:10 PM (k29T4)

203 178

Skunkiest crap you ever smelled


you talking about me again? I'm a bit yeasty and hoppy down there!

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (nH8jP)

You gotta license for that thing?

Posted by: ATF at May 01, 2013 09:10 PM (FIDMq)

204 Skunkiest crap you ever smelledyou talking about me again? I'm a bit yeasty and hoppy down there! Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 01, 2013 09:02 PM (nH8jP)
I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2013 09:11 PM (dW//4)

205
when the brits were in colony mode in India, they discovered that their normal beers went bad quickly in the heat. Either on the ships in transit or in storage in India

If you grease the bung, liberally, with Vaseline this won't happen.

Posted by: Jason Collins at May 01, 2013 09:12 PM (k29T4)

206 This is all due, of course, to the Nazis chasing away Young Einstein and thus giving America the secret of splitting the beer atom.

Posted by: Nero Wolfe's Beer Glass at May 01, 2013 09:13 PM (y1474)

207 Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 01, 2013 09:08 PM (JIHPI)

Used to drink that in my young and stupid days. There was also a Belgium beer that was 19% ac. Consistency of motor oil and you could only drink it if it was ice cold. Can't remember the name but it had Adam Eve on the label.

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 09:13 PM (ZolUS)

208 British sailors had other uses for bungs....

Posted by: CrochetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 09:13 PM (dW//4)

209 Did someone say yeasty?

Posted by: Puffley Judd at May 01, 2013 09:13 PM (vbh31)

210 >>>and thus giving America the secret of splitting the beer atom.

Wow. Atomic beer.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 09:13 PM (4Mv1T)

211 Shiner Bock. Not new. Not improved.



Tito's Vodka consistently beats all the world's "best".
Yes to this - although I'm in MT-- can't get Shiner here. Local beers ( 7 breweries within 15 miles- 5 of them within 6 blocks!) have some wicked IPA's -- Head Trauma IPA comes to mind!

Posted by: freeTibet with purchase of equal or greater value Tibet at May 01, 2013 09:14 PM (quLHy)

212 WTF you guys talking about fishing when it's turkey season up there in the frozen north ?
Our season is over .
Now we fish , until deer season .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 09:14 PM (USjX1)

213 British sailors had other uses for bungs....

Indeed.

Posted by: Admiral Bungholio at May 01, 2013 09:14 PM (vbh31)

214 149 #147: Gwyneth Paltrow does cosplay?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at May 01, 2013 08:55 PM (LScnt)



Said "of", not "by", but I guess that distinction is subtle.

Still not sure what I think of the whole Codename Rescue thing. Sometimes I think superheros would benefit from an end to their story.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2013 09:14 PM (rm+Am)

215 "Adam AND Eve on the label"

Damn it, I'm just another ampersand victim!

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 09:15 PM (ZM9OS)

216 Greenfish? Never heard em called that before.
My favorite is actually bluegill. Only when they're big enough to fillet though. Then walleye and crappie. Mmm, and blue cat.
Only had trout twice. Good stuff too.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:15 PM (M3APu)

217 Teej, up here they close fishing March 31 to protect spawning. They reopen some species like walleye and pike on the first Saturday in May. Bass and musky open in June.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 09:16 PM (SCTXH)

218 I can shoot a turkey off my porch pretty much any day. I don't want to eat the fucker, though.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:16 PM (k29T4)

219 I've always preferred the red snapper myself. ...as long as it doesn't have a fishy odor.

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 09:17 PM (ZolUS)

220 Nothing smells like a wild turkey

Posted by: CrochetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 09:17 PM (dW//4)

221 What's the name of the beer from down under that'ssold in an oil can?

Posted by: Ronster at May 01, 2013 09:18 PM (ndfWf)

222 Secret ingredient for coating Walleye for a fry: Club crackers. Awesome.

Posted by: The Third Horesman Of The Apocalypse at May 01, 2013 09:19 PM (vbh31)

223 Fosters

10W30

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 09:19 PM (4Mv1T)

224 Nothing smells like a wild turkeyPosted by: CrochetyOldJarhead stop talking about me!!!

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 01, 2013 09:19 PM (nH8jP)

225 When you're boatless, like me, about the only time you can catch a crappie or walleye is during the spawn.
Other than then, they're hangin' out in deeper water.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:22 PM (6Zy+s)

226
We don't have bluegill up here.
Walleye and Perch. Smallies, Largemouth, Pike, Rainbows, Cutthroat, Brookies, Browns, Bull Trout, Lake Trout and a few places w/ Muskie Hybrids. ...and catfish, carp, and mountain and lake whitefish. Kokanee, but they don't get very big. Same with the Grayling.
...but no Bluegill or Crappie.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:22 PM (k29T4)

227 Beer and wine, what drunken faggotry is this? That's the best the US can do, is FUCKING BEER AND WINE!
Grasping at straws my stinky bitches, grasping at straws.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 01, 2013 09:22 PM (G6kli)

228 Nothing smells like a wild turkey
Posted by: CrochetyOldJarhead
stop talking about me!!!
Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 01, 2013 09:19 PM (nH8jP)
Fuck off bitch this is MY gig!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2013 09:22 PM (dW//4)

229 I hate beer.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2013 09:22 PM (piMMO)

230 You need to get a canoe, Teej.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:24 PM (k29T4)

231 Grasping at straws my stinky bitches, grasping at straws.

***

Titanium straws?


http://t.co/htEED4DuDP

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2013 09:24 PM (piMMO)

232 Hey Radish!

I really like the picture of the Bleeding Hearts(?) and the waterfall. Nicely done!

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 09:24 PM (dW//4)

233 @31 USS Diversity

Brew Fest is Aug-Sept Labor Day weekend. All the craft beers you can drink for the cost of one wristband. Southernmost area, near the marker surrounded by Japanese tourists taking pictures.

Posted by: Beagle at May 01, 2013 09:25 PM (sOtz/)

234
Holy crap a BEER THREAD! As always *cheers* horde!

I love the IPA's myself, all of 'em. Lots of 'em.

The wife has got me trying to minimize the gut though, so its mostly Yuengling and bourbon right now..

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 01, 2013 09:25 PM (X3xYu)

235 >>>Yuengling and bourbon right now...

Now there's a manly drink.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 09:26 PM (4Mv1T)

236 Lager and Ale:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK4U7uibkaU

Kind of an awkward setting.

Posted by: Kim Mitchell at May 01, 2013 09:27 PM (uRskg)

237 Club crackers. Hmm, will have to give that a try. Got hooked on Harold Ensley's coating mix years ago.
I really need to see some bobbers going under soon. Still love watching em ease outta sight.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:27 PM (GX2fm)

238 Some of the best beers I've had in the US aren't widely distributed - only available locally (usually on tap). But 2 of my favorite crafts that can be found are Stone IPA and Bell's Two Hearted. Troegs and Great Lakes (Cleveland, of all places) make some good stuff. Heavy Seas is good too. Sierra Nevada is consistent, solid...love their Celebration (Christmas) Ale

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 01, 2013 09:27 PM (XvrTA)

239 Dead Guy Rogue Ale. Not bad stuff....

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 09:28 PM (dW//4)

240 68.. if you ever get a chance to go to the Yard House you will not be disappointed. 100+ beers on tap. I just recently discovered La Fin du Monde ..... nice

Posted by: ET at May 01, 2013 09:29 PM (YpjaN)

241 What's the name of the beer from down under that'ssold in an oil can?
Posted by: Ronster at May 01, 2013 09:18 PM (ndfWf)


Foster's green oil can (now called Ale, used to be called bitter - not a palatable term for yankees) is not half bad for $1.99/ oil can. Not great, but I buy it every now and then and never regret it when I'm feeling frugally.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 01, 2013 09:30 PM (XvrTA)

242 All this beer causing this thread to get a little sluggish.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 01, 2013 09:31 PM (4Mv1T)

243 I like Panko for frying fish.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:31 PM (k29T4)

244 Bear Whiz and Tree Frog come to mind as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2013 09:31 PM (i8bnm)

245 Tito's Vodka? Swill.

Posted by: stourma at May 01, 2013 09:31 PM (8k5/X)

246 A canoe? Um, not on my lakes.
Better have a minimum 12ft semi-v with an outboard, trolling motor and depth finder.
Minimum.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:33 PM (+jNI+)

247
any of the stone beers= liquor store
(tenn has some goofy ass booze laws)
current favs sweetwater brewery IPA (damn, thats good stuff)
and shiners new summer brew ruby redbird

Posted by: rain of lead at May 01, 2013 09:33 PM (J/npG)

248 Club crackers. Hmm, will have to give that a try.

Don't forget to mix in a pinch or two of sugar. Not sure why, but it's kind of the plat de résistance.

Posted by: The Third Horesman Of The Apocalypse at May 01, 2013 09:33 PM (vbh31)

249 I keep meaning to try Victory Beer one of these days.

I don't know whether it's any good or not, but it's a nice tip of the hat to Orwell.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 09:33 PM (sdi6R)

250 I always get a kick out of the beer snobs who think that if it isn't Bud Light, it isn't beer.

Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Fritz at May 01, 2013 09:34 PM (G9Mmf)

251 Garrett , you're full o' shit .
Turkeys must be in a farmers pen .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 09:34 PM (USjX1)

252
Brew Fest is Aug-Sept Labor Day weekend. All the craft beers you can drink for the cost of one wristband. Southernmost area, near the marker surrounded by Japanese tourists taking pictures.Posted by: Beagle at May 01, 2013 09:25 PM (sOtz/)
-------------------------
May have to see about that!

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 09:34 PM (5wHPS)

253 Germans sold off small scale brewing equipment - enmass- during the early to mid 80's. I know, I worked at a craft brewery that bought German copper mash and lauder tuns.

Americans did the same with large scale breweries but those parts and equipment went to China. Falstaff (SF) and General Brewing Company (Olympia, Wa.)

I know someone that bid on the Falstaff equipment, he picked up some nifty artwork, steam kettles, yeast brinks and 100's of old bung style golden gate kegs. (yuck it up)

We actually hand-bunged kegs for three or four years before switching over to Sankey single keg stations.

also: won the bid on Red Hook west - Seattle and stripped the place to the last bolt.





Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2013 09:34 PM (fGPLK)

254 We actually hand-bunged kegs for three or four years

That sounds like something I could go for.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 01, 2013 09:37 PM (vbh31)

255 I used to go to a place called Gays (liquor store) in Indiana. Pretty damn fine collection of beers, but I kept picking the ones with licorice in them, so I stopped trusting beer I haven't heard of.

Posted by: Up With People! at May 01, 2013 09:37 PM (FmFB3)

256 I really like Newcastle. And if I am honest, Budweiser. Not the Czech one.

Boring beer often tastes better after a couple. Whereas the spicy craft stuff can be great if you only have one, before the extract aftertaste builds up.

Posted by: Beagle at May 01, 2013 09:37 PM (sOtz/)

257 Radish is correct. Even though she's a girl and this is science. IPA is largely the hipster version of "this is awful, now you taste it".

Posted by: Ian S. at May 01, 2013 09:38 PM (OevbG)

258 I keep meaning to try Victory Beer one of these days.

I don't know whether it's any good or not, but it's a nice tip of the hat to Orwell.
Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 09:33 PM (sdi6R)


They make one of the better US Pilseners that I've had. Pilsener is not always a beer that screams "full-flavor" but theirs is pretty good. Didn't catch the Orwell reference, but I've always avoided Rogue beers, because their iconography is clearly nicked from commie/Soviet "art" - don't know their politics, but fuck 'em with their "revolution" beers with the fist and the red star and all that shit.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 01, 2013 09:38 PM (XvrTA)

259 @ 215 adam and eve
Verbodun Vrucht (Forbidden Fruit ) - belgian dark strong

Posted by: Bawappitis at May 01, 2013 09:38 PM (NjCMi)

260
Nope. Wild birds.
They are all over the riverbottom this time of year. They roost 3-4 nights a week in the pines next to my house.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:40 PM (k29T4)

261
You knuckleheads crave the validation of your rightwing hops and barley.

WHAT ARE YOUR TOP 5 LAGERS?!! GIVE ME YOUR TOP FIVE LAGERS!!!!
Posted by: Ergdrew Ergbert at May 01, 2013 08:25 PM (LCRYB)






This should be on erg's list......

http://volcanobrewingcompany.com/microbrewery/

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2013 09:41 PM (MBqvE)

262
and you are right, I am full of shit. I don't really fry much fish.
But when I do, I use Panko flakes.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:41 PM (k29T4)

263 FWIW, in two years living in France I never saw anyone drink Stella Artois


everyone drinking beer drank Kronenbourg. QED

Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at May 01, 2013 09:42 PM (Dll6b)

264 agree - IPA is nasty.

Enduring favorites - Anchor Steam Porter, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Tecate, Pacifico, Pilsner Urquell.

Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2013 09:43 PM (fGPLK)

265 I don't really fry much fish.
But when I do, I use Panko flakes.
- -- -
Do you wash it down with Dos Equis?

Posted by: fluffy at May 01, 2013 09:43 PM (tYU+x)

266 Didn't catch the Orwell reference, but I've always avoided Rogue beers, because their iconography is clearly nicked from commie/Soviet "art" - don't know their politics, but fuck 'em with their "revolution" beers with the fist and the red star and all that shit.
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 01, 2013 09:38 PM (XvrTA)


In the book "1984", Winston Smith drinks Victory Gin and smokes Victory Cigarettes, both manufactured by the state-owned factories. They're both described as being of crappy quality.

I figure Victory Beer is being ironic or something.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 09:44 PM (sdi6R)

267 Missouri gov gave all ccw names to federal government. I am sure this has been mentioned here, but this is something!

Posted by: lou's a girl at May 01, 2013 09:44 PM (vgd4f)

268
>>Do you wash it down with Dos Equis?

Barq's. It has bite.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:45 PM (k29T4)

269 This should be on erg's list......

It's ace.

Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 09:45 PM (doBIb)

270 Fucking Bruins.

Not that I didn't really expect this.

Fuck you, Andrew Ference.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 01, 2013 09:47 PM (uRskg)

271 I had some Germans over for business, they love our beer selection and I took them to my local sub micro brewery, where you pick your ingredients and they brew and bottle it for you (with some guidence). They were shocked,

(Shenandoah Brewery in Alex, for you DC types)

Posted by: Jean at May 01, 2013 09:47 PM (EYbqR)

272 Actually a lot of Germans drink wine . Yet , it may the right time to release my handcrafted beers to the German Market , Alles Kaput and Patton's Piss .

Posted by: DrDrill at May 01, 2013 09:47 PM (vT+VP)

273 Hunt those wild birds ...nimrod .
See how tame they act after you've killed a couple of 'em .
I have birds roosting within 400 yds of my back door .
I bet you couldn't kill one of mine if your life depended on it .
You're full 'o shit .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 09:47 PM (USjX1)

274 These guys started a Micro Brewery in my old machine shop and now with investors are building a new Brewery in the Hill Country
http://www.texmexbeer.com/beer.html

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at May 01, 2013 09:47 PM (MhA4j)

275 I'm out .
Nite all .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 09:48 PM (USjX1)

276
Hey how about the egyptian beers? Looks like piss and taste like it too!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2013 08:43 PM (jE38p)








When I was stationed there back in '90, we used to drink the local Stella brand. The export version isn't TOO bad, I remember it as being a bit like Heineken, without the freshness.

The local version of Stella was something else entirely. Sold in what looked like wine bottles, they'd re-use bottles for the next batch by running 'em through a dishwasher most likely. Pretty common to have about 3 or 4 labels plastered over each other because they were too lazy to peel the old ones off.

Supposedly they fortified/preserved it with formaldehyde, which gives the most amazingly horrendous hangovers. Blackouts are common while drinking the stuff.

Finally, the chain of command decreed that the local Stella was strictly off limits when out in the bars at Sharm al-Sheik.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2013 09:50 PM (MBqvE)

277 You're full 'o shit .Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 09:47 PM (USjX1)No, I live in a place where there is a large population of unpressured birds. I also live in a state that allows you to shoot turkey with a rifle, so 400 yards is close enough.If I wanted to waste my time hunting something I don't want to eat, I have a long list of critters available to me. Turkey would be among the last I'd choose to waste my time on.It's time to fish. When the Elk start to use their wallows, I'll start to think about hunting again.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 09:52 PM (k29T4)

278
This should be on erg's list......

It's ace.
Posted by: EC at May 01, 2013 09:45 PM (doBIb)






Yeah, knew it was a sock. I just wanted to get the first volcano + beer reference in.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2013 09:52 PM (MBqvE)

279 I recently sampled a microbrew farmhouse saison that damn near gagged me. I was getting ready to pour the remaining 5 bottles down the drain when I decided to give it another chance and come at it with "fresh" taste buds.

I wouldn't call it appealing, but it wasn't bad, in a subtle way. Probably wouldn't buy it again, though.

Okay truthfully, the 6.5% alcohol made me reconsider.

Posted by: Fritz at May 01, 2013 09:53 PM (G9Mmf)

280 Elk? Thats a big animal. 1 medium sized elk would feed you for half a winter right?

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 09:54 PM (dW//4)

281 Why Obamacare is too difficult to implement by Barry O ...................On....1...2....3........ It is because Obama's brilliantly conceived legislation is being implemented "Stupidly" thedumb-ass governors of "Red States". These dumb-ass GOP Governors could "Fuck-Up" a wet dream and it is not 1/2 Chocolate Jesus's fault...........................

Posted by: Cluessness at May 01, 2013 09:55 PM (3Z1wn)

282 Founders and Bells in Michigan cant expand rapidly enough. They seem to have figured out how to expand and keep a level of quality.

Michigan is the best beer state in the union. We drink to forget Detroit, and yall up in here.

Posted by: rev dr e buzz the main maing at May 01, 2013 09:56 PM (HQml1)

283 Old style
Cubbies beer

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 01, 2013 09:56 PM (E8hSa)

284 << fortified/preserved it with formaldehyde.

Ingredient for making pickled sailor.


Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2013 09:56 PM (fGPLK)

285 Back in the boom times of Bush I'd drive 80 miles to lake Erie, and 80 back to get a slab or three of walleye, and fry it and eat it all in one sitting. Damn good fish.

Posted by: Up With People! at May 01, 2013 09:56 PM (FmFB3)

286 Y'all come on down. We have enough 'craft' beers to float the Navy. Just please leave town once you are sated.

Posted by: Beer City at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (aDwsi)

287 This must be why everyone is so jealous of the US. They were so bored they thought they could import excitement through immigration. That didn't work, the immigrants didn't assimilate. Europe is old and boring and yet all the lefties, libs, dems are european wanna bee's. We could have saved ourselves a mint by giving them all a one way ticket to the European country of their choice and desire.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (/b8+5)

288 It's beer, beer, beer- that makes me want to cheer.

Posted by: Hooray beer! at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (i7B17)

289 Three days of 70's and tomorrow it's gonna be 40, Friday low 30, chance of snow. In MAY!! And I have to go a wedding Friday evening. Wonderful. Global warming my ass.

Posted by: jewells45 at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (u25eL)

290 There's no such thing as a top 100 lager let alone a top 5.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 08:30 PM (bxpf3)
Amen, brother.For my money, give me a DIPA, a bourbon barrel aged RIS, or a good smoked porter. My favorite brewery - hands down - is Founders Brewing in Grand Rapids, Michigan. And I'm an Ohio State fan.Founders CBS and KBS, and their Doom bourbon-barrel aged IPA or Boltcutter Barleywine, are on my top ten list of beers.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (Ujyht)

291 Banned check.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 09:58 PM (erYRT)

292 So i check in here a while ago and yay for ice cream, I run to the store to get the items i'm missing to make banana splits. I come back and read (horror look on my face) Beer.

my tongue recoiled in alarm.my body shuddered in revolt ion

srsly Ice Cream and beer!

no way

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 09:59 PM (nqBYe)

293 Gee, it let me come back.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 10:00 PM (erYRT)

294 Don't be fooled jarhead , garrett doesn't kill elk either .
dude is the mitt romney of outdoorsmen .
really out .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2013 10:00 PM (USjX1)

295 >>Posted by: jewells45 at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (u25eL)<<



I know!! It was 84 here yesterday. Now it is snowing and up north about an hour they are calling for 12+ inches.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 01, 2013 10:00 PM (SCTXH)

296 Did you buy chocolate syrup and whip cream....cause you know, someone else is asking.

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 10:00 PM (dW//4)

297 CrotcheyOldJarhead

why yes i did, and also caramel topping. and maraschino cherries!

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:01 PM (nqBYe)

298 290
their Doom bourbon-barrel aged IPA

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (Ujyht)


Maybe Monty might make a few extra bucks by licensing his DOOM logo?

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2013 10:01 PM (sdi6R)

299 only thing i didn't buy was vanilla ice cream as i actually had that.

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:02 PM (nqBYe)

300 My favorite brewery - hands down - is Founders
Brewing in Grand Rapids, Michigan. And I'm an Ohio State fan.Founders
CBS and KBS, and their Doom bourbon-barrel aged IPA or Boltcutter
Barleywine, are on my top ten list of beers.


Posted by: rabidsquirrel at May 01, 2013 09:57 PM (Ujyht)

Wow...thats like 15 miles from my door...I was unawares

Posted by: Red Shirt at May 01, 2013 10:02 PM (FIDMq)

301 294 Don't be fooled jarhead , garrett doesn't kill elk either .
dude is the mitt romney of outdoorsmen .
really out .

WTF, awkward? Did garrett rape your dog, or something?

Posted by: fluffy at May 01, 2013 10:02 PM (xEQSN)

302 Once on a camping trip up in Wisconsin, we asked the waitress what they had in the way of local brews. We kind of expected, oh, Point, maybe Leinenkugel, maybe something we'd never heard of. The waitress squinted at the ceiling for a moment, brightened, and said, "We have Old Milwaukee". Poor thing..., that elicited a lot of guffaws, for which we apologized.

I recall in the '70s being able to buy Chief Oskosh for $2.00 an 8-pack. It was a fair beer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 01, 2013 10:02 PM (aDwsi)

303 Did garrett run over awkward davies' pet turkey or something?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 01, 2013 10:03 PM (uRskg)

304 It was 85 here this afternoon; high tomorrow is gonna be 50 with winds at 25 gusting to 35 and overnight low is gonna be 39.

If you cant grow tropical plants on the patio year 'round its too fuckin cold. Iam all for global warming.

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 10:03 PM (dW//4)

305 Oh FFS.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 01, 2013 10:03 PM (uRskg)

306 Beer after ice cream just ain't right.

admit it.

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:03 PM (nqBYe)

307 I'm sure they've made beer ice cream on Iron Chef at some point.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 01, 2013 10:04 PM (uRskg)

308 or elk after ice cream , i'm with garrett, or just making stuff up.

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:04 PM (nqBYe)

309 Worst spring I can ever remember.

Posted by: jewells45 at May 01, 2013 10:04 PM (u25eL)

310 Waterhouse, Bite you tongue!

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:05 PM (nqBYe)

311 Willow I would dare say it is entirely dependant upon the order of application

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 10:05 PM (dW//4)

312 Seriously, who can drink two 9% beers and not have a splitting headache within an hour.

I cellared six barleywine beers brewed in 98' 99' 2002 2003.

We drank them last November, good thing too, they probably peaked in 2010.

Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2013 10:05 PM (fGPLK)

313 Where can a guy get an ONT on tap?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 01, 2013 10:07 PM (l3vZN)

314
Once on a camping trip up in Wisconsin, we asked the waitress what they had in the way of local brews. We kind of expected, oh, Point, maybe Leinenkugel, maybe something we'd never heard of. The waitress squinted at the ceiling for a moment, brightened, and said, "We have Old Milwaukee". Poor thing..., that elicited a lot of guffaws, for which we apologized.

====

You can usually tell in the first few seconds after that question if they have anything local or craft-y.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 01, 2013 10:08 PM (5wHPS)

315 CrotcheyOldJarhead, I could see beer, and some more beer, taking a nap and than Ice-cream,

but definitely not ice cream flavor on my tongue tantalizing my brains and other senses ,than sniffing beer.

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:08 PM (nqBYe)

316 Hmmm Levin is not on his show until monday, howie carr subbing. Savage is not on until monday, jd hayward subbing.

Anyone know if hannity had a sub too?

Wonder if they are having a meeting?

Posted by: Caustic at May 01, 2013 10:09 PM (/b8+5)

317 Got *really* drunk one night at the Hofbräuhaus. I still have no idea what the nationality was of those other people at the table. I also remain mystified as to how I managed to find way back to the pension where I had a room. Good times...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 01, 2013 10:09 PM (aDwsi)

318 313
Where can a guy get an ONT on tap?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 01, 2013 10:07 PM (l3vZN)

First, you have to find the speakeasy that has it.

Posted by: Red Shirt at May 01, 2013 10:10 PM (FIDMq)

319 Anyone know if hannity had a sub too?
--------

Hannity on both radio and TV today

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 01, 2013 10:11 PM (aDwsi)

320 All I heard was "...ice cream flavor on my tongue tantalizing my brains and other senses...." followed by a nap.;-)

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 10:11 PM (dW//4)

321 hmm. my computer is having issues loading site, i keep ending up at a wierd ace site.

so i guess that means i'll go read a book, maybe tomorrow it will like me.

Posted by: willow at May 01, 2013 10:11 PM (nqBYe)

322 CrotcheyOld--- Are you the one who has had some experience with the Ontos?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 01, 2013 10:12 PM (aDwsi)

323 Either ONT is imminent due to uberslow load problems or the hamsters found the fridge

Posted by: Red Shirt at May 01, 2013 10:13 PM (FIDMq)

324 300+ and no ONT yet? WTH???

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 10:14 PM (dW//4)

325 I'm with ya willow. Not an appealing combination to me either.
Haven't had a banana split in ages. Prefer mine with vanilla scoops and either two pineapples and a strawberry or vice versa.
Whipped cream and a cherry on all three, but only if you're not too terribly busy.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 10:16 PM (ma+gB)

326 Hammer - Ontos?

Posted by: CrotcheyOldJarhead at May 01, 2013 10:17 PM (dW//4)

327
Wow...thats like 15 miles from my door...I was unawares


Posted by: Red Shirt at May 01, 2013 10:02 PM (FIDMq)

Grand Rapids is a great beer city. Founders is simply amazing, and HopCat was rated the 3rd best beer bar in the world by Beer Advocate.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at May 01, 2013 10:18 PM (Ujyht)

328 Oops. Too slow with that one.
Oh well. Past my bedtime anyway.
Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at May 01, 2013 10:18 PM (ma+gB)

329 As a home brewer who is very active in the 'caft-beer' world; I can attest that what has happened here in the US over the last 20 years has shaken up the world of beer. Simply put beer has been elevated to the levels of wine in complexity and 'art' and the rest of the world is taking notice.

German beers while technically brilliant lack complexity or depth in many cases. Recepies have changed very little from most breweries going back 300-400 years. In the case of Weinstaphen (est 1050,) is the oldest continuing brewery in the world. They make great beer but its seen little change over the centuries. Take a Dogfish Head, Sierra Nevada or Russian River and introduce that into Europe and it will no doubt shake things up.

Don't get me wrong, I love German and Belgian beers, my Dopplebock and Belgian Strong Ale are excellent but the craft beer industry in the US simply makes the best beer in the world. The IPA and California common style beers are mostly responsible for that growth and many states and towns have successful and fantasic micro-breweries.

Posted by: ATLDiver at May 01, 2013 10:19 PM (rCsM0)

330 316
Hmmm Levin is not on his show until monday, howie carr subbing. Savage is not on until monday, jd hayward subbing.
Wonder if they are having a meeting?
Posted by: Caustic at May 01, 2013 10:09 PM (/b8+5)
That would be a hell of a meeting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2013 10:20 PM (i8bnm)

331
>>1 medium sized elk would feed you for half a winter right?

A Cow Elk is pretty much enough meat for a whole year.
...of course, you will be losing a couple of quarters to friends and those who help you pack it out. So, no reason not to shoot your deer and antelope, too.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2013 10:20 PM (+FMrb)

332 Bottle Shock - great movie!
Love the Pilsener Urkle (sp) on tap in Prague. Just not the same in bottles here. Loved all the local pilseners and lagers on tap in Germany. DH loved the hefeweisens. They gave me a head ache! You can get 4 or 5 different types of Spaten on tap at Maders restaurant in Milwaukee. Only place in the states I've ever found it on tap.

Rabid squirrel...O.H.

Cheers!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at May 01, 2013 10:40 PM (1M/xn)

333 "Adam AND Eve on the label"

Damn it, I'm just another ampersand victim!

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 09:15 PM (ZM9OS)


Cis-normative oppressors

Posted by: Gender Studies Post-Doctoral Scholar at May 01, 2013 10:48 PM (Vk2pI)

334 Founders and Bells in Michigan cant expand rapidly
enough. They seem to have figured out how to expand and keep a level of
quality.



Michigan is the best beer state in the union. We drink to forget Detroit, and yall up in here.





Posted by: rev dr e buzz the main maing at May 01, 2013 09:56 PM (HQml1)


I love Founders Dirty Bastard; a growler of that shit disappeared in record time along with my cortex for a short while. Bells Oberon is a very good summer beer. I'm sorry I missed this thread when it was active. My former neighbor is from the Black Forest and goes back every summer; he said American beers are where it's at and in Germany it's relatively boring. I plan on going on a liver enlargement tour of Ommegang's brewery in Cooperstown, NY at some point in the future.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 01, 2013 11:32 PM (xsGP6)

335 75
I have drunk a lot, and I mean a fucking lot, of both German and
American beers. My favorite "mass market" German beer is Bitburger (you
can get it in the States but it's not at all the same as the one you get
in Germany), my favorite European beer in general was a Czech Pilsner,
not Budweis, but something like it.


Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2013 08:33 PM (ZshNr)

Didn't read all the comments, so apologies if someone else has chimed in, but I believe the brand you're talking about is "Czechvar", which has been described to me as 'the Czech Budweiser', or ever 'the original Budweiser'.
I've had it, anyways. And it is good.

Posted by: Lewis at May 01, 2013 11:41 PM (UB1pV)

336 How in the hell could Michigan possibly be the best beer state in the Union? Those hippies in Oregon and Vermont brew the hell out o' them some beer.

Not to mention Colorado and California.

Posted by: Lewis at May 01, 2013 11:44 PM (UB1pV)

337 To my mind, the (current) era of good beer (in the U.S.) started about 1992.

The year before, when I was still in college (in Chicago), there was a local bar that had a selection of 50 beers available, which was pretty impressive at the time.

Two years later, in my rinky-dink third tier hometown city, there came a bar that offered over 500 different beers at any one time.

Wow.

Posted by: Lewis at May 01, 2013 11:59 PM (UB1pV)

338 Make that more like 700 beers, actually.

*might be a little drunk*

Posted by: Lewis at May 02, 2013 12:08 AM (UB1pV)

339 "Bottle Shock" - fun!!
One of the best discoveries upon moving to TX: Tito's vodka. Better by far than any other I've tasted.
And while it doesn't merit consideration by serious beer drinkers, if you're living the lo-carb lifestyle, ice cold Michelob Ultra is quite drinkable when beer is the ideal quaff. In my experience only, of course, which is occasional and limited.

Posted by: BlueyRaisin at May 02, 2013 12:47 AM (MJ7uZ)

340
@ 335. Czechvar is Budweis. Due to the legal dispute with Budweiser, they can call it Budweis in Czech but its calledCzechvar over here.
If the Czech pilsnerhe was referring to wasn't Pilsner Urquell, there is a decent chance it was Staropramen which is quite similar, though I give the nod to Pilsner Urquell.
For Buckeye Katie, try the bottles now if you haven't recently. Per my prior post, the Urquell has gone to some great lengths in the past year to change their packaging and distributing to protect the flavor of the beer. Issues with the quality of their beer off the shelf related to poor handling, light struck/skunky, etc. are pretty much taken care of now. And as mentioned, the beer in their can was near indistinguishable from that out of a tap.
I've had the unfiltered versionfrom down in their beer tunnels too and let me tell you it was a little slice of heaven.

Posted by: Prindlewappitus at May 02, 2013 01:16 PM (2Ynt1)

341 Texas has six distilleries, all with distinctive flavors of whiskey.

As for beer, I'll stick with Shiner Bock nowadays.

Posted by: MAJ Arkay at May 02, 2013 03:01 PM (TnUAk)

342 Saddest part about "Bottle Shock" is that the actual event (blind tasting where US wine beats French) was not the first, as hyped by Napa County lo these many years.
The first true "bottle shock" occurred in 1911, when the Golden State California Champagne from Italian Swiss Colony, Asti Winery, beat ALL the competition (including the fwench) at the Torino Wine Exposition, one of the largest and most prestigious of that era.
Awarded the "Grand Prix" for best wine of the whole Exposition, the Golden State Cal Champagne became the first American wine to be judged best in international competition.
And yes, blind judging...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at May 02, 2013 03:13 PM (wX/ht)

343 And oh by the way...
Racer 5 IPA from Healdsburg, California.
Great family, great employees, great beer.
And no, I don't work at The Bear Republic Brewery, nor am I an investor.
Well, other than the beer-belly investing I've done...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at May 02, 2013 04:11 PM (b+dLf)

344 I hate that I missed this thread.
Been re-sampling Brekenridge Vanilla Porter.

The 'problem' with German beer is their purity standard. They are only allowed four ingredients: Barley, hops, yeast and water. So you aren't going the find an oatmeal stout over there.

Posted by: sTevo at May 02, 2013 08:22 PM (dlAh+)






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