Governor Rick Scott Demands FAU Explain the Jesus Stomping Incident

Yes, please.

How the media and liberals/leftists (but I repeat myself) think of this: A goonish, benighted conservative politician once again pushes censorship and quashes the free exchange of ideas.

What they never consider: Pracitcally everything.

[T]he double standard is glaring. I have zero doubt that a professor would have immediately understood the problem with the assignment if the name to be written on the paper had been “Mohammed” or “Martin Luther King” instead of Jesus. I also hope that a professor would understand he had crossed a line if he asked an atheist, like me, to bow down to a shrine. The fact is that universities these days rely on double standards to function, as the overwhelming majority of colleges, like FAU, maintain unconstitutional speech codes that typically ban inappropriate, offensive, or hurtful speech. If the plain language of these codes were followed, they would not last a day, since every professor and student would be found guilty of violating them. In order to exist, these kinds of codes must be selectively applied.

But it's even more retarded in thought than that. Consider, there might be some kind of a bracing Kill Your Assumptions/Smash Your Symbols experience were a Christian to stomp on the name of Jesus. (Just roll with the hypothetical for a moment.) In that particular case, the Christian would, arguably at least, be learning (or at least being subject to) some kind of lesson that The Word is Not The Thing and The Symbol Is Not the Signified and also various Question Your Beliefs type kindergarten horsehshit.

But does a Muslim learn that lesson from stomping on the name Jesus? No. How about an atheist? Again, no. How about a gay guy who hates "Bible Thumpers"? No. How about a feminist who hates the Patriarch and considers patriarchal religion to be the most important perpetuator of Male Privilege? Again, obviously not.

These folks don't learn any of these Very Important Lessons from these actions. In fact, they learn the opposite lesson, don't they? While the Christian is arguably learning to "not be so tribal in outlook," or something, the other groups are learning the power of tribalism.

After all, their symbols aren't being smashed. The symbols of their Destested Enemy are being smashed. Their Symbols are being elevated by contrast to the treatment of the Symbol of the Enemy.

This isn't just about double-standards. It is about that, of course, but it isn't just about that. It's also about the bizarre assumptions encoded into the Non-Thinking among our supposed Cognitive Elite.

Because, obviously, if you wanted to teach all students something along these lines, you'd ask each to smash the symbols of something personally/psychologically important to himself or herself. How on earth is a committed Patriarchy-hating church-hating feminist learning about smashing her own symbols by trodding on the symbols of the Other? In that case, she learns no lesson at all, except "You're awesome and people who disagree with you suck."

What lesson is that? We do not need to teach people to have an overinflated opinion of themselves and to denigrate the beliefs of people not like them. People are already kind of pretty good at that already.

Now, if the professor asked the Christian to stomp on Jesus, the Muslim to stomp on Allah or Mohammad, the feminist to stomp on a Giant Vagina costume, and the atheist to stomp on a sheet of paper reading "Trivial acts of intellectual rebellion will make Daddy notice and love me," then I concede the lesson would have had some actual purpose to it. I wouldn't necessarily agree with the lesson -- it's still too much to have a state-funded school demanding public renunciations of faith from its students -- but I would concede there was some sort of lesson lurking around there. Or, if not a lesson, at least an experience. (And experience is the raw stuff of "lessons.")

But of course they did not do that, because they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't even think of doing that. Because they do not want to ask any part of the Leftist/Diversity coalition to give up, or even question, any of their bugaboos and shibboleths. In fact, the entire exercise, as constructed, is simply a coalition-unification exercise which increases In-Group Solidarity by identifying an Out-Group Other and inviting the In-Group to further debase the Out-Group, and moreover takes it one further step by demanding the identified and marginalized member of the Out-Group himself participate in and thus condone his own debasement.

The bizarre assumption at work here seems to be that Only Christians are capable of tribal and/or irrational thought, and thus that only Christians need to be "educated" out of such thinking.

Not only is this ridiculous and bigoted on the face of it, but if only Christians need to be educated -- if everyone else arrives at University without needing any further moral or intellectual instruction in How to Think -- why are anyone except Christians permitted in these courses?

Remember the starting assumption: Only Christians need these sorts of lessons. That being the case then, no other students should gain credits from taking the course.

Of course the professor would object to such a rule because that would mean virtually no one would take his course and he'd be fired. So instead he teaches a course, supposedly offering "lessons," but largely to people he's already decided have no need of his "lessons."

Absurd and vile. It's so goddamned stupid and evil in that lazy, casual, thoughtlessly dumb way in which most evil is committed. No one bothers to think; no one troubles himself with questions; no one ever applies the Shoe on the Other Foot test to make sure he's not just cocooning himself in a world that flatters himself and reassures him that anyone who Looks Different from him is just bad and wrong.


Posted by: Ace at 11:36 AM



Comments

1 We need to set up a Mohammed stomping counter battery....

asshole teachers.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:37 AM (LRFds)

2 Educators are simply not that bright. The curriculum called for the stomping, so the professor put it on. No real thought involved.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at March 27, 2013 11:38 AM (QupBk)

3 ace,

Don't forget, the school suspended the student who called the professor out.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2013 11:39 AM (GQ8sn)

4 How about Weasel Stomping Day (teacher edition)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k76IGLi6jWI

Posted by: Tony253 at March 27, 2013 11:40 AM (PryWG)

5 Bravo, Ace. Truly lucid deconstruction of what went on here.

Posted by: Derak at March 27, 2013 11:41 AM (lkjWK)

6 Ace,
As I'm sure you're aware, the professor in question is black, ergo your post is racist, and the moral high ground remains his and his alone. See how easy it is to form a worldview? No need for a TLDR post. Just roll with it, racist.

Posted by: JRobb at March 27, 2013 11:41 AM (iyRtB)

7 3 EC,

you can't have a tyranny without stupid overreach...

the tyrant was caught being a dick so he kicked in the turbo and went "asshole"

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:41 AM (LRFds)

8 I'm bracing myself for the Christians to start rioting in the streets, burning flags, and blowing themselves up.

Posted by: mrdinj at March 27, 2013 11:42 AM (9qDRl)

9
Man, I hope that dude is suing the crap out of that university and the professor specifically.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2013 11:42 AM (IY7Ir)

10 I think a good way to get some answers is set up a national "Stomp Mohammed" day. That ought to wake everyone up.

Posted by: Heralder at March 27, 2013 11:42 AM (+xmn4)

11 Must one really go to college and pay tens of thousands of dollars to get a piece of construction paper and put his foot on it?

I have long maintained that every society has to decide what to do with its indolent and willfully ignorant. We institutionalize ours in colleges and universities where they do less harm than in the real world. But make no mistake, they still do harm. It just takes longer for it to manifest itself.

Posted by: Voluble at March 27, 2013 11:42 AM (qYvEa)

12 8 mrdin,

Just because it hasn't happened here doesn't mean it hasn't happened...

Lebanon

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:43 AM (LRFds)

13 the tyrant was caught being a dick so he kicked in the turbo and went "asshole"


The school double-downed on the suspension. I hope the student is able to sue the school for all sorts of shit, even made up shit. I'm pretty incensed at this story.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2013 11:43 AM (GQ8sn)

14 First the lawyers, then the college profs.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2013 11:43 AM (srueX)

15 I'm bracing myself for the Christians to start rioting in the streets, burning flags, and blowing themselves up.

Shouldn't we be blowing up other people?

*adds Jello and celery to grocery list*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (/kI1Q)

16 10 Herlader,

Indeed....

I think we may need to get a new generation of asshole Xians...

we'll help your grandma across the street, give you the shirt off our back and knock your teeth down your throat...whatever is needed.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (LRFds)

17 Love the fact the "professor" is a Dem activist.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (lVPtV)

18 Good essay Ace.

Posted by: maddogg at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (OlN4e)

19 Its about time he weighed in, now to read the article and see if you have the latest outrage on this.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (53z96)

20 the feminist to stomp on...

Leah Dunham?

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 27, 2013 11:45 AM (t06LC)

21 I'd like to knock that fucking affirmative action "professor" activist on his ass and piss on his fucking face.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 27, 2013 11:46 AM (wbmaj)

22 The only things they think need to be challenged are the things that support Western Civilization. This is a class in relativism-- which is, at its core, about diminishing Western Civ until it's no more important, preferable, or just than any other civilization out there.

Posted by: zsasz at March 27, 2013 11:46 AM (MMC8r)

23 he feminist to stomp on...



Leah Dunham?

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 27, 2013 11:45 AM (t06LC)


BC pills.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2013 11:46 AM (GQ8sn)

24 Hey prof, how 'bout stomping a pic of the JEF?


Yeah, didn't think so....

Posted by: Tami at March 27, 2013 11:47 AM (X6akg)

25
Beautiful.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 27, 2013 11:47 AM (Y4TdB)

26 Very interesting post. Had heard about this, and was irritated but glad the student prevailed in the end. However, I had pretty much passed this off as more of the typical liberal/leftist education establishment BS that goes on every day, but this analysis takes it to a better level.

Don't various forms and levels of this kind of "indoctrination" go on at many levels in the media every day?

Posted by: RM at March 27, 2013 11:47 AM (/Frlf)

27 Good essay Ace. Posted by: maddogg at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (OlN4e)Good comment, esse.

Posted by: Jesus (read: Hey, Zeus!) at March 27, 2013 11:48 AM (O1oM2)

28 I just stomped on a picture of Nelson Mandela's face. It was that blowing up of trains with women and children aboard during the Apartheid days thing. I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 27, 2013 11:48 AM (wbmaj)

29
Course title and description?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 27, 2013 11:48 AM (052zE)

30 OT

Just noticed on Drudge that Sean Penn's son just outed himself as a paragon of tolerance.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2013 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)

31 "Remember the starting assumption: Only Christians need these sorts of lessons. That being the case then, no other students should gain credits from taking the course. "
Lesson or reality show?WTF happened to readings, lectures, and term papers?

Posted by: Wendy at March 27, 2013 11:48 AM (KydDZ)

32 From this morning post

The student who refused to stomp on “Jesus” is having academic charges
filed against him and HAS been expelled. So their statement that no
punishment yesterday was lying bullshit. Keep in mind this is a public
funded college. It is time to fire some people. Also, one wonders if
they have incompetent lawyers advising them or if they are simply not
listening to them.

http://is.gd/SFXDaR

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 11:49 AM (53z96)

33 Can you imagine the outpour of Humanity if the word MUhammed was the topic? Why the Chocolate Cupcake in Charge would spit out Reggies 7 Iron . and do something..

Posted by: clemenza at March 27, 2013 11:49 AM (HMQ8k)

34 I'm bracing myself for the Christians to start rioting in the streets, burning flags, and blowing themselves up.

From my reading of the incident, it was a Mormon student who balked. Statistically I'd imagine there had to be at least one or two Christians in the class who could have also balked, but kept their mouths shut and went along.

Conjecture on my part.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at March 27, 2013 11:49 AM (feFL6)

35
One of the sites (I forgot which) had the section from the book, and it didn't even make any sense.
The actual lesson is an interesting study in human nature and how something that is meaningless(a piece of paper) becomes a symbol when something is written on it.
But you can merely describe that and point to examples, you don't actually have to go through the exercise.
This is what I don't understand about the new hippie teaching methods (mind you I'm only in my late 20s and still GET OFF MY LAWN.)
What is the point of engaging in this activity? Why couldn't the professor have merely highlighted the myriad examples of symbolism. He could have for example discussed Jewish tradition to write "G-D" as a matter of not writing out the name of God (so that you don't destroy the symbol.)
Furthermore the entire point of the exercise as it was written in the book was to have someone express discomfort (if no one does then the exercise itself doesn't teach what it's supposed to teach.)
In that sense the professor was trying to teach a different lesson (hatred of religion) to which I say "Fuck him." The class isn't about stepping on Christianity Dipshit, it's about discussion of the importance of symbols. "I hate Christians 101" is down the hall.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 27, 2013 11:49 AM (GaqMa)

36
I'm bracing myself for the Christians to start rioting in the streets, burning flags, and blowing themselves up.

Kate of smalldeadanimals:

"Not showing up to riot is a failed conservative policy"

Of course, the Burning Times will change all that.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 27, 2013 11:49 AM (vN7SY)

37 32 Vic,

because it is a public institution it is also very vulnerable to counter demonstrations...

I am thinking maybe we need to coopt the counterculture shit and start protesting the fuckers.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:50 AM (LRFds)

38 I mentioned this recently. When I was in college, and especially following 9/11, there was a concerted push across all my classesto instruct the kiddies about 'Us vs. Them'. 'Us vs. Them' is a construct used to divide people against each other. There actuallyis no 'Them' you see, we're all 'Us', 'Us vs. Them' is just a distraction. A distraction prefered by evil types like Boooosh, Xtianists, etc. The answer is to unify 'Us' so as to defeat 'Them', or 'Us', or something. It all seemed rather silly to me at the time, still does.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 27, 2013 11:50 AM (W7ffl)

39 Vic, thanks, I was unaware of the latest and greatest on this. I had thought the student prevailed.

Posted by: RM at March 27, 2013 11:50 AM (/Frlf)

40 How about this professor takes a magic marker and writes Heyzeus on his sack. Then we stomp it some. Suffer for his art, and all that.

Posted by: Liza Minelli, woman beater at March 27, 2013 11:51 AM (ccC5G)

41 I got a say this type of stuff has been happening for 40 years and now your in the shit waste deep.

Posted by: clemenza at March 27, 2013 11:51 AM (HMQ8k)

42 34 illegally posting anonymously on the internet,

not bad conjecture though...statistically the numbers are higher.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:51 AM (LRFds)

43 EC, I just had to go to Drudge and see what Sean Penn's hell spawn did:

Sean Penn's son handled a paparazzo in Beverly Hills today much
the way his father used to ... violently ramming the photog -- and also
calling the guy a "f***ot" and a "n***er."



Nice. And his spawn's name is "Hopper." How douchey.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 11:51 AM (lVPtV)

44 I hope the student is able
to sue the school


I don't. That only means that once again, the taxpayers pay for the stupidity and bias of others. Instead, all involved, from the "professor" to the president of the University need to be looking for new jobs. That'll get the attention of both them and any other brave, transgressive types who think this is how you demonstrate how superior you are.

Posted by: pep at March 27, 2013 11:51 AM (YXmuI)

45 I'd stomp on a picture of Bucky Dent, Bill Laimbeer or the 72 Russian Olympic hoops team.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2013 11:52 AM (ZshNr)

46 If it had been a picture of Christ, the young man had been asked to stomp on it might have had the makings of a great novel as in "Silence" by the Japanese Christian Shusako Endo:

http://www.amywelborn.com/catholicwriters/silence.html


This story of academia is the shape of things to come. Islam will get a pass. Christianity not so much

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2013 11:52 AM (S7KLd)

47 I think I'll stomp on a pic of TFG. As a stress-reliever.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 11:52 AM (lVPtV)

48 I see some small amount of utility to this assignment, but only in a "punch back twice as hard" kind of way. The student should have written "Liberal Fascist" ( but I repeat myself) and stomped on that, thereby causing the teacher's head to 'splode.

Posted by: Al at March 27, 2013 11:53 AM (o5tVE)

49 @ 45 hey Bill Lambier was clean..

Posted by: clemenza at March 27, 2013 11:53 AM (HMQ8k)

50 If I were to stomp on someone's face (I mean their actual face), it would be _____________.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 27, 2013 11:53 AM (wbmaj)

51 Actually, the governor "requested" an explanation. I would have told FAU: You're a state institution, I'm the chief executive of the state, so you'd better make it good because your job is on the line.

Posted by: Socratease at March 27, 2013 11:53 AM (wkhW/)

52 OBVIOUSLY Gov. Rick Scott is a SoCon religious right stooge who needs to focus on what's REALLY IMPORTANT.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at March 27, 2013 11:53 AM (YYJjz)

53 Imagine the outcry if he had called for the stomping of "Obama"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 11:54 AM (aDwsi)

54 The Mormon doesn't view the empty Cross as a holy symbol. He would have shrugged and stomped on the torture-implement of the Romans. Even more so for the Muslim (Muslims have hated the Cross since the start).

Jesus's *name* is different.

The Mormon and the Muslim alike view Jesus as the Christ and his mission as holy.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 27, 2013 11:54 AM (QTHTd)

55 Vic - that article was from Monday, I believe the case has progressed since that point in time and the student is no longer under (wholly illegitimate) sanction.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (fMiHM)

56 @ 53 thats a thread of a different color and time..

Posted by: clemenza at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (HMQ8k)

57 You're a state institution, I'm the chief executive of the state, so you'd better make it good because your job is on the line.

My guess is that they'll decide to spend more time with their families soon.

Posted by: pep at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (YXmuI)

58 and the atheist to stomp on a sheet of paper reading "Trivial acts of intellectual rebellion won't make daddy love you any more,"

That was the most awesome thing anyone will write on the HQ all day. We can all go home now.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (B/VB5)

59 FIRE is going to have a field day with this, particularly the whole oh hey no one got punished except we're totally punishing the kid who squealed bit.


Because, obviously, if you wanted to teach all students something along these lines, you'd ask each to smash the symbols of something personally/psychologically important to himself or herself.

I was actually thinking about this earlier today. It's not necessarily a bad illustration to teach the very basic concept that words and symbols have meaning to the extent that we vest them with meaning and accept the underlying premise of the meaning. But that lesson works to and only to the extent that you are using something the student finds valuable. Ask me to stomp on a Yankees pennant and I will jump up and down in gleeful abandon. Ask me to do that to a Cubs hat and it's on like Donkey Kong. Also, you can teach the same lesson by writing down Flying Spaghetti Monster or whatever, holding up the card and saying "Now, if I put this on the ground and stepped on it, would you be offended? If so, tell me why." Same lesson, no actual offense.

You're absolutely correct about all the rest of it, of course. It's beyond unthinking and goes into being actively anti-thought.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (VtjlW)

60 Sharp analysis, Ace.

So instead he teaches a course, supposedly offering "lessons," but largely to people he's already decided have no need of his "lessons."

They are needed there to validate the prof's actions and witness the Christian's humiliation. If no-one sees it did it really happen sort of thing.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (VD8bZ)

61 55
Vic - that article was from Monday, I believe the case has progressed
since that point in time and the student is no longer under (wholly
illegitimate) sanction.
====
What about the "Prof."?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (aDwsi)

62 Alec Baldwin: Is calling a black man a "coon" worse than calling him the "n-word?"
My response: "Coon" is worse--I hear many blacks call each other the "n-word."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (wbmaj)

63 58 Ian S,

pretty much...

"Love me...ME DADDY!"

//A Sullivan esq

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (LRFds)

64 Imagine the outcry if he had called for the stomping of "Obama"

As I've seen suggested elsewhere, the student should have written "CHICAGO" above "JESUS" and then stomped it. Problem solved.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (B/VB5)

65 "Non-approved ideas will contaminate the faithful." --Sharif Don't-like-it.
Srsly, multi-culti is only uni-culti, as is amply documented here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d9uyc4z
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d6jz5
Btw, Muzzies will get exercised if you diss عيسى (Issa).

Posted by: Thorvald at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (1V6Pv)

66 Your link is wrong, Vic. The student wasn't expelled. From Drudge:


"Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university decided he wouldn't be punished.


Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (7rusg)

67 Hopper Penn is an abusive out-of-control hater? Gee, never could have guessed that would happen from that loving family

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (QTHTd)

68 Love the fact the "professor" is a Dem activist.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (lVPtV)


Surely you don't expect Top Men to act like parvenus and point this out. They have more important things to concentrate on, like getting new tee-times because of all this blasted cold weather.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 11:57 AM (EefAv)

69 Great post.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at March 27, 2013 11:57 AM (51kjJ)

70 I'm kind of surprised Bill Ayers wasn't invited as a guest lecturer.

Posted by: pep at March 27, 2013 11:57 AM (YXmuI)

71 67 BTH,


is Hooper spawn of Material Gal or Robin(seldom)Wright?

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 11:57 AM (LRFds)

72 The best way to keep these "jumped-up monkeys" in their place is with a two-handed truncheon.

Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2013 11:58 AM (UzPAd)

73

I'd really really really like to know the name of this course and its description as it's listed in the registry.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 27, 2013 11:58 AM (+oin+)

74 Has Jeff Spicoli been asked to comment?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 27, 2013 11:58 AM (wbmaj)

75 C'mon AtC, I wanna hear how you managed to swallow the gummy tab.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 11:59 AM (da5Wo)

76 Good dissection, oh Furry One.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 11:59 AM (+z4pE)

77 Ooh we need to find a flag for Christians to burn. Maybe a rainbow banner or does the EU have a flag? Maybe we could just go with pictures Biden?

Posted by: Palerider at March 27, 2013 11:59 AM (ql12X)

78 Best rundown of the FAU thing I've seen yet.

Posted by: Sardiver at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (o87nI)

79 we may be winning the sequester....

Rasmussen says 45% think the sequester didn't cut enough spending....


BOOM

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (LRFds)

80 8 I'm bracing myself for the Christians to start rioting in the streets, burning flags, and blowing themselves up.


Posted by: mrdinj at March 27, 2013 11:42 AM (9qDRl)

Sadly, one lesson that can be drawn from recent history, is that only violent protests are listened to by the Elite...

1 million TEA Partiers in Washington??? /crickets.....

Bunch of Moslems in another country Kill each other over a Cartoon?? Ah... we must silence ourselves...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (lZBBB)

81 DOH --pictures of Biden.

Posted by: Palerider at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (ql12X)

82 C'mon AtC, I wanna hear how you managed to swallow the gummy tab.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 11:59 AM (da5Wo)



I answered below but I'll repeat here. Licking it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)

83 I hope the student is able to sue the school I don't. That only means that once again, the taxpayers pay for the stupidity and bias of others. Instead, all involved, from the "professor" to the president of the University need to be looking for new jobs. That'll get the attention of both them and any other brave, transgressive types who think this is how you demonstrate how superior you are.

But even when they are fired they soon find a happy home in some other taxpayer funder institution. They are never made to suffer for their anti-social behavior.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (VD8bZ)

84 80 Romeo13,

Maybe if we rioters BUY the slums we burn....?

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (LRFds)

85 73




I'd really really really like to know the name of this course and its description as it's listed in the registry.





Posted by: Soothsayer at March 27, 2013 11:58 AM
====
Don't know about that, but, "The lesson on bashing the name of Christ is included in a textbook
titled, “Intercultural Communication: A Contextual Approach, 5th
Edition.”

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (aDwsi)

86 Right on, Ace, in characterizing this as an intellectually lazy and evil exercise. Note the esteemed professor's credentials include a Phd from Howard University. Typical Howard University product? probably. Useless? for sure.

The FAU bio states his specialties are in communications, race something or other, and something else useless. I own a small biz and employ half a dozen sales reps. Would I ever consider hiring someone whose studies specialize in this sort of grievance-mongering? Why on earth would I? Let's see: a customer-facing rep who has a racial/gender/LBGTQ-EIEIO chip on his or her shoulder? Is that a recipe for a success in a customer-facing job?

Sales isn't everything, but it's a lot of things. The people educated by Howard and FAU in this sort of crap are stained with unemployability outside of the education or gubmint world, and guess what: those are not productive enterprises. Good luck, losers, and maybe you should ask for your tuition and wasted years back from these BS institutions.

Posted by: Luke Duke at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (Cj86e)

87 Bad Boys was a decent Sean Penn movie, like an OZ for a younger generation of shithead kids like myself. The soda cans in the pillow case, the boom box bomb, all good stuff.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (ZshNr)

88 Let's have "Everyone Stomp on a Pic of Mohammed Day." Remember how well the "Everyone Draw Mohammed Day" worked out?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (lVPtV)

89 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (7rusg)


That was from Fox. Their story was that on Fri the university said no punishment but on Monday he was expelled and had "academic charges" filed against him.


Those may have been withdrawn by now. I can't follow every news organization in the country.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (53z96)

90 82 AlextheChick,

You know....that answer answers so many questions...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (LRFds)

91

Great piece, as always, Ace.


I swear, I would have written Obama on a piece of paper and started stomping on it.

What did the student have to lose?

But, of course, the student was much too decent for that.

Only the vile creatures swimming in the sewers could come up with such a class, such a "professor/propagandist" and "instruction."

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM (XYSwB)

92 This post is proof that eating hobo meat makes you smart. Real smart.

Great work, Ace.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM (R18D0)

93 Fifty years ago, a college degree was virtually a stamped ticket to a Better LIfe. Today, a degree gets you a trip to the unemployment line and 70k in debt. And much of the fault lies with asshole professors like this one. His BS lessons may resonate with the others in his campus cacoon, but it's worthless in the job market.

Posted by: MikeW at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM (r/L31)

94 83
I hope the student is able to sue the school I don't. That only means
that once again, the taxpayers pay for the stupidity and bias of
others. Instead, all involved, from the "professor" to the president of
the University need to be looking for new jobs. That'll get the
attention of both them and any other brave, transgressive types who
think this is how you demonstrate how superior you are.



But even when they are fired they soon find a happy home in some
other taxpayer funder institution. They are never made to suffer for
their anti-social behavior.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (
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It is a resume enhancer

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM (aDwsi)

95 Shooting the name on the paper with a gun made out of another piece of paper would have got him fired and possibly prosecuted.

Posted by: Whatev at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM (A7Wh1)

96
the entire exercise, as constructed, is simply a coalition-unification exercise which increases In-Group Solidarity by identifying an Out-Group Other and inviting the In-Group to further debase the Out-Group, and moreover takes it one further step by demanding the identified and marginalized member of the Out-Group himself participate in and thus condone his own debasement.

I've been posting my ass off over there saying just this thing, but they have only published a few of them.

Posted by: SGT Ted at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM (OoS+x)

97
@54 - The Mormon and the Muslim alike view Jesus as the Christ and his mission as holy.

-------------------------------

Er... no.

While Mormons view Jesus as the Christ and Savior of the World (and head of the church - i.e. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints), Muslims merely view him as yet another prophet.

Posted by: junior at March 27, 2013 12:03 PM (A9dYV)

98 As I've seen suggested elsewhere, the student should have written "CHICAGO" above "JESUS" and then stomped it. Problem solved.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2013 11:56 AM (B/VB5)



this is brilliant

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:03 PM (XYSwB)

99 But even when they are fired they soon find a happy
home in some other taxpayer funder institution. They are never made to
suffer for their anti-social behavior.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (VD8bZ)


Exactly; how many people were fired at Duke? Even that fuzznuts Brodhead is still in place after running roughshod over the rights of the accused and generally acting like a pandering ninny for the assholes in the faculty. A lot of alumni are pissed off over it but they couldn't care less.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (EefAv)

100
Should I point out that the enstompening of pictures, or anything for that matter, isn't something we Americans normally do?

In most cases, the ever-popular one-fingered salute is all that's necessary to express our displeasure. We don't associate the bottom of our shoes with badness as do some cultures.

Jus' sayin'...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (+z4pE)

101
Kind of related: I see the post-racial utopia under Omarxist has arrived at Townson U. (drudge)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (IY7Ir)

102 You're absolutely correct about all the rest of it, of course. It's beyond unthinking and goes into being actively anti-thought.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at March 27, 2013 11:55 AM (VtjlW)

Reminds me of something I read about a teacher leading a discussion on speech/tribalism/tolerance (the usual). A student speaks up and basically makes the point that everyone should think the same, because tolerance, and is against tribalism. So the teacher tells him that instead of wearing the hat of the baseball team he was wearing in class, he should come to the next class wearing a hat that said "baseball" on it.

Posted by: Mainah at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (659DL)

103 Sean Penn should be forced to stomp on a Dixie cup.

Madonna should be forced to stomp on her vibrator.

Jim Carrey should be forced to stomp on a picture of himself mugging.

Rosie O'Donnell on a twinkie or molton hot steel.

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (r2PLg)

104 The kid should have thrown the textbook on the floor and stomped it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (wrS2o)

105 What a screwed up world we live in.
Pop tarts in a shape that could look like a gun... HORROR.
stomping on Jesus... meh, just another day in America.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (DGIjM)

106

Next, they'll have a flag-burning exercise.

And, Kiss Che Guevara Poster day.

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:05 PM (XYSwB)

107 That was from Fox. Their story was that on Fri the university said no punishment but on Monday he was expelled and had "academic charges" filed against him.Those may have been withdrawn by now. I can't follow every news organization in the country.

And then after a while they'll make the student's position there untenable in many little ways until he leaves.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:05 PM (VD8bZ)

108 101

Kind of related: I see the post-racial utopia under Omarxist has arrived at Townson U. (drudge)


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM
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"Towson"...., and now I must go wash my hands

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:06 PM (aDwsi)

109

What if it had been spelled Jesús?

just sayin'

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:07 PM (XYSwB)

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:07 PM (XYSwB)

111 96

the entire exercise, as constructed, is simply a
coalition-unification exercise which increases In-Group Solidarity by
identifying an Out-Group Other and inviting the In-Group to further
debase the Out-Group, and moreover takes it one further step by
demanding the identified and marginalized member of the Out-Group
himself participate in and thus condone his own debasement.

I've been posting my ass off over there saying just this thing, but they have only published a few of them.

Posted by: SGT Ted at March 27, 2013 12:02 PM
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I am stealing that....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:08 PM (aDwsi)

112 104 The kid should have thrown the textbook on the floor and stomped it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM (wrS2o)

_____________________

Like it.

Although I'm trying to think what a college prof would really give a damn about.

Maybe the kid could have reached into the prof's wallet grabbed teacher's union card and stomped on that.

Or, a Bob Dylan album.

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:08 PM (r2PLg)

113 I'm a Christian. How come no one cares if I'm offended?

This shit has all kinds of "Deny your god, or die." to it.

I'm not going to worship Caesar, bitches. Bring on the lions.

Posted by: Ook? at March 27, 2013 12:08 PM (OQpzc)

114


I wish this piece had wider coverage.

Like, everywhere.

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM (XYSwB)

115 As usual ace, you are analyzing things in 3D (that's a compliment, by the way). I just saw it as some professor being a massive tool.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM (q177U)

116 103
Sean Penn should be forced to stomp on a Dixie cup.



Madonna should be forced to stomp on her vibrator.



Jim Carrey should be forced to stomp on a picture of himself mugging.



Rosie O'Donnell on a twinkie or molton hot steel.

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:04 PM
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Obama on the Constitution..., oh,wait...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM (aDwsi)

117
They should change the name to Townson to please me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM (IY7Ir)

118 As per Ace's reasoning, there seems to be the makings of a first class lawsuit here against the university.

Esp. as I'm sure their speech/behavior codes include the usual stuff about making someone feel uncomfortable, isolated, etc, etc.

Also, depending on FL's constitution free speech/freedom of religion violations.

A big payday for that student would be nice as incentive for other conservative students to stop hiding beliefs and use the left's own speech codes against them.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM (G9qZk)

119 Licking it.





Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)


*ahem*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM (da5Wo)

120 Uh.... if Seperation of Church State means the Government and schools cannot be pro religion...

How can the then be ANTI one Religion?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2013 12:10 PM (lZBBB)

121 117

They should change the name to Townson to please me.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2013 12:09 PM
=========
You are better off being unassociated.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

122 The answer is to unify 'Us' so as to defeat 'Them', or 'Us', or something. It all seemed rather silly to me at the time, still does.
--------------
Actual the purpose behind this is to change the Us to be Progressives and their allies and the Them to be those that oppose Progressives.

See once you destroy those that oppose Us the we are all unified. Those damn Tea Party types keep us divided. Destroy those pointing out the violence of Islam and Occutards!

Posted by: GardenGnome at March 27, 2013 12:11 PM (sTfkB)

123 Maybe the prof's "prescription" --burn that because it is "de rien".

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:11 PM (r2PLg)

124 FIRE is going to have a field day with this,

Strangely, their site is entirely silent on that point...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at March 27, 2013 12:12 PM (fMiHM)

125 Actually, you shouldn't stomp on it, no matter what it is; even the Yankees pennant. He who shows no honor for his enemies will receive no honor in return.

Posted by: RiverC at March 27, 2013 12:12 PM (El+h4)

126 Dude! nice one. Made the brain move a little this morning without coffee...nice work. Keep it up Ace!

Posted by: Brian at March 27, 2013 12:13 PM (UnMRd)

127 Accountability would be a nice thing for once. This "professor" should be given a fair hearing and then hung

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2013 12:13 PM (9Bj8R)

128
Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university decided he wouldn't be punished.

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He can claim it until he gets his grade

Posted by: different instructor at March 27, 2013 12:13 PM (SO2Q8)

129 @120

The idea of seperation of church and state has been inverted. Usually we think of the church co-opting the state.

What really bothered the founders was the idea of the state co-opting the church. You have to remember that the founding generation were mostly Anglicans and the head of the Anglican church was the king of England so that rebellion also meant ex-communication and a trip to hell. It was a political tool they wanted to keep the government from using for the purpose of tyranny.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 27, 2013 12:13 PM (t06LC)

130 I'm not going to worship Caesar, bitches. Bring on the lions.

We are watching them teach our children to be the beasts that will tear us to pieces.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM (VD8bZ)

131 113 Ook,

I am not mocking you Ook the problem is that on a micro level I agree with you, but this disparate treatment bullshit is done with Tax dollars.

The Pretty pony "Islam" is getting a lot of deference no other faith gets....that's a timebomb.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM (LRFds)

132 I'd like to see this prof stomp on a piece of paper with "affirmative action" written on it. Because you know his head would explode.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM (R18D0)

133 Strangely, their site is entirely silent on that point...Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at March 27, 2013 12:12 PM (fMiHM)The Forbes article is by the FIRE guy. I think he's taken to writing in media outlets rather than putting everything on the site to increase visibility.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM (GaqMa)

134
"Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university decided he wouldn't be punished.
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Wait, they need multiple classes for this BS class?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM (SO2Q8)

135 130 Decaf,

Yup...Caesar is stealing the kids....

I think it is time for us to ghettoize ourselves since the donks really want that.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM (LRFds)

136 If those evil white, male, Christians hadn't set up this tolerant system, we gay, feminist, atheists would be free to do anything we wanted in a Muslim sharia state or Communist meritocracy.

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:15 PM (uPUrh)

137 ::: 5 Bravo, Ace. Truly lucid deconstruction of what went on here. :::

agreed!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 12:15 PM (csi6Y)

138 alexthechick is right. The point of this exercise is to illustrate the power of words through the involuntary hesitation the actors should feel when ordered to stomp on the paper. Which is exactly the moment the prof should have pointed this out to the class, made his point, then moved on. The student could have written Mohammed, Obobo, or whatever else he valued and it would have served the same point.

Posted by: Dorian Taupe at March 27, 2013 12:15 PM (i0YIJ)

139 Ace,

Why is it that you're willing to invoke concepts like good and evil, when you openly claim atheism and are very dubious about natural law? And why is it that the forces and ideologies that are all employing evil all seem to align, and select as their singular target Christisnity?

Why is this so absurd and vile? They're just seizing power from those too weak to hold on to it. The only way your value judgements approach logical coherence is if there is some metaphysical standard. Some objective sort of moral order.

Otherwise might makes right.

The split. It's theological. The leftists believe not only that there is no morality (and thus they may do as they please), but additionally that there are no rights.

At long last Ace, where do you stand? Is your objection one of principle, or just one of preference, because your (our) side is losing? And if it's the second, why not join their side since it's winning?

If you're not careful your thinking critically on these issues is going to lead you to Catholicism. Romans has a discourse on this very topic, btw.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 27, 2013 12:15 PM (62WS0)

140
These folks don't learn any of these Very Important Lessons from these actions. In fact, they learn the opposite lesson, don't they? While the Christian is arguably learning to "not be so tribal in outlook," or something, the other groups are learning the power of tribalism.


You're on a roll, Ace. Keep at 'em!

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 27, 2013 12:16 PM (GpMdZ)

141 134

"Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He
claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university
decided he wouldn't be punished.
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Wait, they need multiple classes for this BS class?


Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM
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Perhaps required 'core curriculum'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:16 PM (aDwsi)

142
135, I concur with you, Sven, and Decaf. Great ideas Ace. I enjoyed your thoughtful input.

Posted by: Draki at March 27, 2013 12:16 PM (L8r/r)

143 What is there to explain?
Stomp on the child-rapist, and practioners of the religion of peace will riot and kill people, as well as target the people who offended for death.

Stomp on Jesus? Christians will complain, but won't receive coverage. Then they go have potluck.

Posted by: blindside at March 27, 2013 12:17 PM (x7g7t)

144 Go into teacher's little office and burn teacher's diploma from Berkeley because you've learned the lesson that it's just meaningless words on paper.

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:17 PM (r2PLg)

145 "These folks don't learn any of these Very Important Lessons from these actions. In fact, they learn the opposite lesson, don't they? While the Christian is arguably learning to "not be so tribal in outlook," or something, the other groups are learning the power of tribalism."

Actually the Christians are off buying ARs because they've been to this rodeo before.

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:17 PM (uPUrh)

146
Actual the purpose behind this is to change the Us to be Progressives and their allies and the Them to be those that oppose Progressives.

Nail. Head.

It's the subtle, always-assumed posture of the Leftards. They have declared War against America on all fronts, and we must push back on all fronts, be it in school or at work, in the opinion pages, wherever they attack.

It's sad that we are being forced to defend our way of life constantly in our own country, but it is what it is. They started it, we must finish it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 12:17 PM (+z4pE)

147 "But the truth is that it is only by believing in God that we can ever
criticise the Government. Once abolish the God, and the Government
becomes the God. The fact is written all across human history; but it is
written more plainly across that recent history of Russia; which was
created by Lenin. There the Government is the God, and all the more the
God, because it proclaims aloud in accents of thunder, like every other
God worth worshipping, the one essential commandment: "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me."



...The truth is that Irreligion is the opium of the people. Wherever the
people do not believe in something beyond the world, they will worship
the world. But, above all, they will worship the strongest thing in the
world. And, by the very nature of the Bolshevist and many other modern
systems, as well as by the practical working of almost any system, the
State will be strongest thing in the world. The whole tendency of men is
to treat the solitary State as the solitary standard. That men may
protest against law, it is necessary that they should believe in
justice; that they may believe in justice beyond law, it is necessary
that they should believe in a justice beyond the land of living men. You
can impose the rule of the Bolshevist as you can impose the rule of the
Bourbons; but it is equally an imposition. You can even make its
subjects contented, as opium would make them contented. But if you are
to have anything like divine discontent, then it must really be divine.
Anything that really comes from below must really come from above."



- G.K. Chesterton (Christendom in Dublin 1932)

Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:18 PM (z3Lez)

148 Muslims merely view [`Isa al-Masih] as yet another prophet.

The Qur'an does make that argument that he is a human Prophet, yes.

But the Qur'an also concedes the Virgin Birth, all the miracles, and Jesus's return on the Last Day. This last theme is strongest in the Syrian apocalyptic hadith.

My point was that no Muslim would step on Jesus's name, especially since Muslims aren't allowed to draw portraits of the Prophets - Jesus's name is all they have.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 27, 2013 12:18 PM (QTHTd)

149 I've got nothing to add. Only that when you're on, Ace, you slice like a f'n hammer. This is one of those posts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2013 12:18 PM (zF6Iw)

150 Stomping Lauraw with a Jesus st0mping post.

How meta. Or something.

Posted by: eleven at March 27, 2013 12:18 PM (KXm42)

151 *adds Jello and celery to grocery list* Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 11:44 AM (/kI1Q)

Don't forget the shredded carrots!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM (sbV1u)

152 Fifty years ago, a college degree was virtually a stamped ticket to a
Better LIfe. Today, a degree gets you a trip to the unemployment line
and 70k in debt. And much of the fault lies with asshole professors like
this one. His BS lessons may resonate with the others in his campus
cacoon, but it's worthless in the job market.

***

Yeah, today all to often a degree especially from an Ivy League school leaves one less capable of functioning in society or understanding how the world works than he was before he enrolled.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM (XUKZU)

153 I coulda put Ivan De Jesus. We never should have given away Ryne Sandberg for him.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM (SO2Q8)

154 Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:18 PM (z3Lez)

That is a marvelous quote. o.O I do not believe I have ever read that before.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM (GpMdZ)

155 Why is it that you're willing to invoke concepts like good and evil, when you openly claim atheism and are very dubious about natural law?

Atheism does not denythe concepts of good and evil, only the existence of God.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM (VD8bZ)

156 Wait, they need multiple classes for this BS class?



This seems like the sort of class one takes to fulfill the "global
studies" or "cultural sensitivity" or WhateverTheFuckTheyCallItThisYear
requirement. 6-9 credit hours, if you want a diploma.


I'm not understanding the class-participation thingy, though. Twenty years ago I took "History of World Religions"--six major ones, so it was a shallow survey--and we read a lot of texts and watched some recordings of ceremonies, but we weren't required to pray or fast or make offerings. It was assumed we could understand the material without play-acting it.

Have we really been dumbed that far down in a generation?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (/kI1Q)

157 Burn the prof's teaching license.

After alll you will be freeing him from bowing down to "Da Man!"

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (r2PLg)

158 Nobody f**ks with da Jesus.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (DrWcr)

159 The real poison at Towson and other very expensive indoctrination camps:
Just two of the extremely liberal staff members:
Elyshia Aseltine joined the Department of Sociology, Anthropology, and Criminal Justice in Fall 2012. She graduated with her Ph.D. in Sociology from the University of Texas at Austin. Her teaching and research focus on crime/law/deviance, criminal justice, and race/ethnicity in the US and Africa.
Elizabeth Clifford joined the Dept. of Sociology, Anthropology, and Criminal Justice at Towson in 2000, and is now department chair. Her research interests are immigration, gender, inequality, race and ethnicity, and pedagogy. Her co-authored book, Immigration and Women: Understanding the American Experience was published by New York University Press in Spring 2011.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (wbmaj)

160 88Let's have "Everyone Stomp on a Pic of Mohammed Day." Remember how well the "Everyone Draw Mohammed Day" worked out?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (lVPtV)Uhhh, remember a certain reverend that tried to have a burn a koran day?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (UrENZ)

161 14 First the lawyers, then the college profs.
Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2013 11:43 AM (srueX)

Where do you think Lawyers come form?

We have to poison the roots, to kill the tree.

Posted by: blindside at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (x7g7t)

162 "We are in the century of constant sacrifice by the normal to the abnormal" --Chesterton

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (aDwsi)

163 You wanna get this type of critical / post-modern a-go-go crap to go away?

Tell each of the parents that their children's future employment value drops with each one of these classes.

At some point international corporations are going to look at these indoctrination exercises with a very jaundiced eye if they haven't already.

"Hmm, hire the Chinese kid who has been hitting the physical science classes like a madman, or the Gender Queer Tribal Ethnology major from UFU?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (UCv7P)

164 While Mormons view Jesus as the Christ and Savior of the World (and head
of the church - i.e. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints),
Muslims merely view him as yet another prophet.

***

And a prophet who will publicly acknowledge his inferiority to Muhammad in the final days and will help kill the Jews.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2013 12:21 PM (XUKZU)

165 Yet another post by Ace proving he is the best writer and thinker on all the internets. Absolutely brilliant.

Posted by: Jesusland at March 27, 2013 12:21 PM (jIlzK)

166 I'm outa here for today

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 12:21 PM (53z96)

167
A better lesson would have been to give a A+ to anyone who didn't do any stomping.
The lesson being to not be a sheep and meekly do as the State commands.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:21 PM (SO2Q8)

168 You have to remember that the founding generation were mostly Anglicans
and the head of the Anglican church was the king of England so that
rebellion also meant ex-communication


Not true. The pilgrims were Calvinists. The Delaware valley types were Quakers. The backcountry folks were mostly Presbyterian. Only the planter colonies were primarily Anglican.

Posted by: pep at March 27, 2013 12:22 PM (YXmuI)

169 Indoctrinate U.
You'll be like us, or you'll be against us. Your choice. Some 1984 nonsense here

Posted by: FGCU_James at March 27, 2013 12:22 PM (i2t1q)

170 Choo-choo Rick Scott of the Medicare expansion cave is a conservative? This is big news!

Posted by: Truman North at March 27, 2013 12:22 PM (qcktF)

171 What exactly is the religion of Professor Asshole anyway?

I ask because walking on something is specifically a sign of disrespect in the Muslim world and they do shit like make plazas designed to look like Bush 41 to show that disrespect.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 27, 2013 12:22 PM (e0xKF)

172 "His BS lessons may resonate with the others in his campus
cacoon, but it's worthless in the job market."

Oddly, this incident and its resolution have provided his students with more "education" then they were to have ever received from his bs syllabus.

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:22 PM (uPUrh)

173 This is a good piece of writing from a thinking man.


Thanks Ace.

Posted by: mama winger at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (P6QsQ)

174 That is a marvelous quote. o.O I do not believe I have ever read that before. Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM (GpMdZ)

I commend to you the book The Size of Chesterton's Catholicism.

It's chock-a-clock full of quotes like that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (sbV1u)

175 I'm not understanding the class-participation
thingy, though. Twenty years ago I took "History of World
Religions"--six major ones, so it was a shallow survey--and we read a
lot of texts and watched some recordings of ceremonies, but we weren't
required to pray or fast or make offerings. It was assumed we could
understand the material without play-acting it.

Have we really been dumbed that far down in a generation?


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 12:20 PM (/kI1Q)


13 years ago. Religions of the World. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism. Worthless. But required.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (da5Wo)

176 155
Why is it that you're willing to invoke concepts like good and evil,
when you openly claim atheism and are very dubious about natural law?



Atheism does not denythe concepts of good and evil, only the existence of God.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:19 PM
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True, and it is thus fairly benign, however, morality is reduced to 'personal morality', which is to say no morality at all

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (aDwsi)

177 What Jefferson was saying was, Hey! You know, we left this England place 'cause it was bogus; so if we don't get some cool rules ourselves - pronto - we'll just be bogus too! Get it?

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (QupBk)

178 I would disagree with the whole exercise to begin with, as it is Nominalist at best, simply anti-theist at worst. While it is possible to assign meaning to symbols that does not inhere them, for instance when we alone have a bad experience with something we may, in our mind, create a link that doesn't exist except for us; it's not there in the symbol, is just in our heads.

But it doesn't logically follow that this is a property of reality, and the majority of humanity for all time has not assumed this to be so. Just because you can create connections to symbols that are entirely mental, doesn't mean that symbols don't have actual connections regardless of what you think about them.

Humanity's belief in magic has a lot to do with this uncertainty; the uncertainty of the connection of symbols to realities makes the superstitious search for them in hopes of controlling them. The way around this is not to deny this connection, but to note that it is external to man and his power; if a word only means what I assert it to mean, the connection is only mental, then what prevents me from changing the meaning of the whole language? Nominalism, as an attempt to escape 'magical thinking' actually paves the way for brainwashing.

Posted by: RiverC at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (El+h4)

179
You make the point I was thinking of in your last paragraph. It's like a "Lord of the Flies" type scenario, where there is no adult supervision, so these people become savages in their actions, since there is no one to stop them.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (TOk1P)

180
Oh man, just listening to Carolla on Dennis Miller, hilarious.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2013 12:24 PM (IY7Ir)

181 Critical Thinking? Not taught here, Christianists!

(kudos to Dennis Prager for the nic h/t insty)

Posted by: Leftist Seminaries - Formerly Known As Universities at March 27, 2013 12:24 PM (HjPtV)

182 @ 145 - "Actually the Christians are off buying ARs because they've been to this rodeo before." - Bingo!

Posted by: Alte Schule - AKA Gunner Hennessey at March 27, 2013 12:24 PM (4iWKM)

183 88Let's have "Everyone Stomp on a Pic of Mohammed Day." Remember how well the "Everyone Draw Mohammed Day" worked out?Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 12:01 PM (lVPtV)Uhhh, remember a certain reverend that tried to have a burn a koran day?

This speaks to the muslims' notion of the weak and strong horse. Evidently lefties have the same belief. They know whom to humilite and there will be no reprisals, to them Christianity is the weak horse.

Posted by: Decaf at March 27, 2013 12:24 PM (VD8bZ)

184 156 we read a lot of texts and watched some recordings of ceremonies, but we weren't required to pray or fast or make offerings. It was assumed we could understand the material without play-acting it.

Have we really been dumbed that far down in a generation?

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They may be trying to dumb things down, but it's arguable they're trying to be intentionally subversive.

They may know, for example, that reciting the call to prayers in Arabic makes you a Muslim, even if play-acting, and that renouncing said beliefs makes you an apostate subject to death.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 27, 2013 12:24 PM (e0xKF)

185 145 jean,

The Crusades were a defensive action, it is why Jihadi Jim hates that the west got rifles.

//Shit nobody in academia admits about the Crusades.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (LRFds)

186 I don't know where I'd get political and cultural commentary if it weren't from here.

Damn Ace. You're good.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (csi6Y)

187 So burn a Koran and the President and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs get involved. Spit on Jesus and Christians, no never mind?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (9Bj8R)

188 I think the Professor exhibits Sadistic Personality Disorder. Sadism does not always involve the use of physical aggression or violence. More often, sadistic individuals express aggressive social behaviors and enjoy publicly humiliating others in order to achieve a sense of power over them.

Posted by: USA at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (RIg+t)

189 ::::Yet another post by Ace proving he is the best writer and thinker on all the internets. Absolutely brilliant.
Posted by: Jesusland at March 27, 2013 12:21 PM (jIlzK) ::::

I agree. And he could make a good living about it, if he would stop being such a pussy about trying to make money.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (CJjw5)

190 that renouncing said beliefs makes you an apostate subject to death.

What does calling in CAS on mosques get you?

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:27 PM (uPUrh)

191 "It's so goddamned stupid and evil in that lazy, casual, thoughtlessly dumb way in which most evil is committed."

Maybe it's more thought behind evil than you want to accept.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 27, 2013 12:27 PM (AWmfW)

192 I answered below but I'll repeat here. Licking it. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at March 27, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)

I read that totally out of context.

And I categorically refuse to scroll up any further in order to get the context.

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 12:27 PM (sbV1u)

193

As usual ace, you are analyzing things in 3D


4D

Posted by: qualia at March 27, 2013 12:27 PM (XYSwB)

194 One reason Christians will have a hard time standing on thename ofJesus is that it could beinterpreted as denying one's faith. Christians and Jews are not supposed to publicly deny their faith. Instead Jews are supposed to pronounce their faith like Daniel when he got tossed into a lion's den for it. Christians are supposed to proclaim their faith and "bear their cross." My understanding is that Muslims are allowed to lie for their faith under taqiyah.

Posted by: Draki at March 27, 2013 12:27 PM (L8r/r)

195 The American University System -- where we open minds by imposing the most restrictive speech codes we can get away with!

Come have your assumptions challenged you white, Christian, right wing heteronormative fuckwagon!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:27 PM (ZPrif)

196 Although I'm trying to think what a college prof would really give a damn about.



Tenure.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2013 12:28 PM (GFM2b)

197 171 What exactly is the religion of Professor Asshole anyway?

_____________________

Global Warming and/or "Passionate" Liberal.

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:28 PM (r2PLg)

198 Buzzsaw,

The class is likely a required course.

Only a fraction of colleges now require historyz, economics, etc. Degrees now consist entirely of courses like this.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 27, 2013 12:29 PM (ieU06)

199 185, I know. Till Edessa is free. ( Jean is for Jean Parisot De La Valette, based on my old LGF delavalette handle, before getting purged)

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:29 PM (uPUrh)

200 I remember reading articles about college Young Republicans being threatened with expulsion after stepping on the Hamas flag, since it has "Allah" written on it.

Posted by: Pyrocles at March 27, 2013 12:29 PM (cv5Iw)

201 I'm outa here for today
Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2013 12:21 PM (53z96)


Me too. See you on the morning thread.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2013 12:29 PM (zF6Iw)

202 ::: I agree. And he could make a good living about it, if he would stop being such a pussy about trying to make money. :::

T SHIRTS!!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 12:29 PM (csi6Y)

203 Just because you can create connections to symbols that are entirely mental, doesn't mean that symbols don't have actual connections regardless of what you think about them. Posted by: RiverC at March 27, 2013 12:23 PM (El+h4)

I see your noumenon and I raise you a phenomenon

Posted by: Immanuel Kant at March 27, 2013 12:29 PM (sbV1u)

204 196 Although I'm trying to think what a college prof would really give a damn about.



Tenure.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2013 12:28 PM (GFM2b)

_________________

Damn it!


That's like a super power though--kryptonite cannot even stomp on it.

Posted by: tasker at March 27, 2013 12:30 PM (r2PLg)

205 Yep, the worst thing about the Crusades was that they failed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:30 PM (ZPrif)

206 What does calling in CAS on mosques get you?<<<<

A boner?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 27, 2013 12:30 PM (CJjw5)

207 Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university decided he wouldn't be punished.

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He can claim it until he gets his grade

Posted by: different instructor at March 27, 2013 12:13 PM (SO2Q


Sounds like this kid is a glutton for punishment. What exactly is his major, and why does he want to study at what must be a truly crappy school? What are his career goals?

Now if the course in question is one of those wretched mandatory-obligatory "arts" electives that science and engineering students get saddled with, I can see his being switched instructors as a win, sort of.

Me, I took introductory languages as my mandatory-obligatory artsy-fartsy courses. Maybe they are more work, but you may actually learn something useful, and there is a lot less political BS slung at you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2013 12:30 PM (29+x5)

208
"Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He

claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university

decided he wouldn't be punished.
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Wait, they need multiple classes for this BS class?




Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM
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Perhaps required 'core curriculum'?

***

It's almost as if they given up their focus on education and instead have taken up brain washing.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2013 12:30 PM (XUKZU)

209 And a prophet who will publicly acknowledge his inferiority to Muhammad in the final days and will help kill the Jews.

We're getting a little far off the beaten track here, but yeah, I can expand on that.

Jesus is supposed to abolish jizya. That means he's abolishing the dhimmat. Jews and Christians will no longer be under God's protection. Under Jesus's reign, any observant Jews and Christians will be hunted down and killed. The observant Jews are supposed to be joining the Dajjal - antichrist - so that's where Jesus will find many of them.

As for Jesus acknowledging inferiority to Muhammad, this doesn't happen directly. On the Last Day there's a question about whether Jesus will pray in front of, or behind, the Mahdi. The Shia are sure that Jesus is subservient to the Mahdi. If he's behind the Mahdi then he's definitely behind the Prophet. But the Sunnis aren't so sure. And the Sufi hadiths tend to elevate Jesus over Muhammad.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 27, 2013 12:31 PM (QTHTd)

210 4DPosted by: qualia11D!

Posted by: CAC after he finds his stash at March 27, 2013 12:31 PM (vN7SY)

211 Vengeance is Mine. I shall repay, saith the Lord. Romans 12: 19-21. Pity the fools who are about to learn the hard way how terribly fair the Almighty is.

Posted by: Jmel at March 27, 2013 12:31 PM (9tSXa)

212 205 Flatbush Joe,

They failed...partially. They are about to fail permanently. The New Texas Republic needs to housebreak the college class.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (LRFds)

213 Yeah, not to pile on, but this is damn good.

Posted by: Truman North at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (qcktF)

214
It's almost as if they given up their focus on education and instead have taken up brain washing.

Methinks it's no coincidence that this began just around the time that Little Billy Ayers decided to become an "educator."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (+z4pE)

215 Yep, the worst thing about the Crusades was that they failed.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:30 PM (ZPrif)

yeah but to be fair, at the time of the Crusades ya couldn't find a decent Hotel anywhere in Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (9Bj8R)

216 Fun religious fact of the day -- Muhammad was a slave-trader in the trans-Saharan slave trade. Yep, Mo-Mo bought and sold black people.

Child-rapist, slave-trader, all around good guy Muhammad.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

217 Traditional academia: Question everything.

The new Academia: Never question the new Academia.

Posted by: USA at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (RIg+t)

218 Interesting that Hot Air/Morrissey spent his post dissecting the various free speech issues while Ace focused on the broader view of tribalism and how it is, and isn't, addressed.

I like the broader question. Well-paid lawyers will hash out the narrowlegal stuff.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (9KqcB)

219 Worthless. But required.

The class I took wasn't worthless at all, but that was before "college education" became a synonym for "job training." *shrug*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (/kI1Q)

220 - G.K. Chesterton (Christendom in Dublin 1932)



Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:18 PM (z3Lez)

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I love that man.

Posted by: mama winger at March 27, 2013 12:33 PM (P6QsQ)

221 #209 Do you really think Jesus saidhe'd do those things before Muhammad lived? If Jesus is a prophet then why is his proclamation of being the son of God ignored?

Posted by: Draki at March 27, 2013 12:33 PM (L8r/r)

222 This professor probably had visions of students standing on their desk at the end of the semester shouting, "Captain my Captain". Because he's so cool.

Posted by: Matticus at March 27, 2013 12:33 PM (0Mr4u)

223 What does calling in CAS on mosques get you?

I can always use the excuse they had at Mazar-e-Sharif....

"Hey, sorry. I forgot to recalibrate after I changed the batteries in the AN/PED-1"

That should save me a court-martial, right?

Posted by: Immanuel Kant at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM (sbV1u)

224 218 CJ,

poppin'fresh is in on the gag.....

his only problem with hard socialism is the price tag...

he's MN nice bud.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM (LRFds)

225 Isn't tenure for teachers in publicly financed colleges a stupid thing?

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM (QxSug)

226 208

"Rotelas is back in class, but with a different instructor. He


claimed "victory" Tuesday on his Facebook page once the university


decided he wouldn't be punished.
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Wait, they need multiple classes for this BS class?






Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:14 PM
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Perhaps required 'core curriculum'?

***

It's almost as if they given up their focus on education and instead have taken up brain washing.

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'Almost'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM (aDwsi)

227 @163--exactly.

As a Hunan Resources manager (so what's it to ya!), if I were to receive a resume indicating a degree from FAU, I would, well, not give it the 6 seconds of attention I normally do. Anyone who would willingly attend such a university inherently lacks fundamental critical thinking skills.

Hopefully students realize that the public actions of professors will hurt their employment prospects.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM (Ec6wH)

228

Child-rapist, slave-trader, all around good guy Muhammad.Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (ZPrif)


You left out "galloping schizophrenic."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM (IDSI7)

229 Ace, The student who objected in this story was actually a Muslim. I think it's worth mentioning. No one reporting this story today is mentioning it though.

Posted by: supercore23 at March 27, 2013 12:35 PM (bwV72)

230 Flatbush, worst part was that they weakened Byzantium. Sustaining Jerusalem would have been difficult in any scenario, but the West could have held the straits and any number of coastal enclaves forever. After the restoration of the Iberian peninsula, Jerusalem could have been taken at anytime (as could have Mecca/Medina).

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:35 PM (XwRIg)

231 227 Hunan Resources

Yum!

Posted by: USA at March 27, 2013 12:35 PM (RIg+t)

232 Jews and Christians will no longer be under God's protection. Under Jesus's reign, any observant Jews and Christians will be hunted down and killed.


They had better pack a lunch & pin next of kin notification on their clothing.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (GFM2b)

233 Here ya go. From FAU's website, "Professor" Poole teaches "intercultural communication, leadership communication, political communication."

http://www.fau.edu/scms/poole.php

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (lVPtV)

234 Sorry, My mistake. I read Mormon as Muslim.

Posted by: supercore23 at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (bwV72)

235 228


Child-rapist, slave-trader, all around good guy Muhammad.Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

You left out "galloping schizophrenic."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2013 12:34 PM
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Yeah, well..., there was something prophetic about traveling on a flying donkey

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (aDwsi)

236 229 supercore23,

the class was being done the wy it was in deference to 'him"...mention it....

then let's go over what the "nuts as shit but logical" conclusion is....

You know Xians and Muslims have qa lot more in common than either does with asshole liberal.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (LRFds)

237 185
145 jean,

The Crusades were a defensive action, it is why Jihadi Jim hates that the west got rifles.

//Shit nobody in academia admits about the Crusades.


Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (LRFds)
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“…but out of the desert, from the dry places and the dreadful suns, come
the cruel children of the lonely God; the real Unitarians who with
scimitar in hand have laid waste the world. For it is not well for God
to be alone.”
– G.K.Chesterton on Islam (The Romance of Orthodoxy, Orthodoxy

Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (z3Lez)

238 229
Ace, The student who objected in this story was actually a Muslim. I
think it's worth mentioning. No one reporting this story today is
mentioning it though.

Posted by: supercore23 at March 27, 2013 12:35 PM (bwV72)

Mormon...not Muslim.

Posted by: Tami at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (X6akg)

239
Are the students at this university doing any kind of protest?

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (Sptt8)

240 Hey the supercore idiot is back , Muslim - Morman Same thing

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:37 PM (XwRIg)

241
Flatbush, worst part was that they weakened Byzantium. Sustaining Jerusalem would have been difficult in any scenario, but the West could have held the straits and any number of coastal enclaves forever. After the restoration of the Iberian peninsula, Jerusalem could have been taken at anytime (as could have Mecca/Medina).

Fucking CINOs.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 27, 2013 12:37 PM (vN7SY)

242 Beautiful! Best read anywhere 2013.

Posted by: Waco Kid at March 27, 2013 12:37 PM (5pTyN)

243 See the sock link:
[...] And this is the perfect place to comment on the “stomping on Jesus” “controversy.”

Everybody is wrong about that, except me.

Read the original exercise carefully.

It’s about (crudely, I admit) getting students to confront their own inhibitions and taboos.

It’s — to put it crassly — a conversation starter.

If performed correctly, anyone who balks at stomping on the paper with “Jesus” on it is encouraged to talk about why they can’t do it — not get punished.

(I suspect the person who invented the exercise many years ago assumed most students would balk, because America was more (nominally) Christian at the time.

(That’s not a contradiction, btw: I mean America is “nominally Christian” now; but was even more “nominally Christian” then…)

The instructor in this recent instance, in other words, completely missed the point of the exercise.

As did almost everybody on the right who is commenting on it.

I also think Christians should be heartened by all this because it would seem to prove something millions of them believe:

That the word “Jesus” alone carries tremendous power, be it to heal — or infuriate and confound the wicked.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 27, 2013 12:37 PM (VwC86)

244 "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me."




- some itinerant Jewish rabbi

Posted by: mama winger at March 27, 2013 12:38 PM (P6QsQ)

245 Greetings:

I grew up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s. Back there and then, there was a folk-tradition that was used when someone wanted you to do something you really, really didn't want to do. It was usually verbalized as something like this. "Fine you kick my ass, and I stomp on your paper." It tended to add a new perspective to the interpersonal communication.

Posted by: 11B40 at March 27, 2013 12:38 PM (odXHG)

246 Sorry, My mistake. I read Mormon as Muslim.
Posted by: supercore23 at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (bwV72)

No problem, Home Land Security and the TSA does that all the time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2013 12:38 PM (9Bj8R)

247 239


Are the students at this university doing any kind of protest?



Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM
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Likely the kid will be shunned..., oh, wait..., that isn't what you mean..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:38 PM (aDwsi)

248 240 jean,

Muslim, mormon...whatever it takes...

//Mr Mom

the class structure was done in deference to islam in not having the exercise be "write down the most important thing to you" now stomp on it...


Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:38 PM (LRFds)

249 I'm beginning to think my year in Kindergarten would be worth 3 years of college credit now.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 27, 2013 12:38 PM (zNKmn)

250 So thankful every day that my son is a Music major at a Christian college. He doesn't have to put up with any bullshit classes like this. In fact, his general ed classes have made him more conservative - his sociology class watched "Waiting for Superman" last year and he is now a radical education reform supporter. They studied genocide and now he is protestingUS policy toward Syria. And there isn't any ideology in music.

BTW, his college has doubled in size in the last 10 years. Families are moving toward smaller Christian-focused colleges like this one to keep their kids away from the Marxist propaganda and useless classes.

Posted by: rockmom at March 27, 2013 12:39 PM (qE3AR)

251 Yup, I misread. My bad guys.

Posted by: supercore23 at March 27, 2013 12:39 PM (bwV72)

252 Another fun religious fact: The Nation of Islam (the heretical black nationalist muslim sect) believes that white people are a race of demon-creatures created in genetic breeding experiments by an evil black scientist name Yakob 6000 years ago.

Crazy, but true. It's also what Malcolm X (who's picture is on every middle school hallway in America, right next to MLK) believed, taught, and preached.

Malcolm X did have a late in life conversion from believing all white people are inherently evil to all non-muslims are inherently evil. That's when he went to Mecca and realized the NoI was a heretical sect (NoI believes Muhammad was not the last prophet -- kinda a big part of Islam to reject.)

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:39 PM (ZPrif)

253
Hey the supercore idiot is back , Muslim - Morman Same thing
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them polygamists all look the same

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:40 PM (SO2Q8)

254 I'm surprised MalcomX didn't come back with his head in a basket

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2013 12:41 PM (XwRIg)

255 #244 mama winger, good quote. Rickb, here for some trolling fun? Muhammad was a lying, illiterate pedophile.

Posted by: Draki at March 27, 2013 12:41 PM (L8r/r)

256 I was going to make a magic carpet /magic underwear joke but I'm not going to.

Posted by: eleven at March 27, 2013 12:41 PM (KXm42)

257 243 AndyCanuck,

Correct as I said in mocking Supercore the "whole exercise is in deference to 'him'..."


'him" being everyone...the problem is the exercise mutated into 'stomp on jesus"....

1) write down the most important thing to YOU

2) stomp on it

is a a very different lesson than

1) write down the most important thing to HIM

2) stomp on it

1 teaches self analysis and introspection and ideally speaks to deference and restraint

2 teaches 'don't be the outsider'

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:41 PM (LRFds)

258 After the restoration of the Iberian peninsula, Jerusalem could have been taken at anytime (as could have Mecca/Medina).

There's a point of irony--had they held, all those Iberians with no place to go might have gone East to the Holy Lands, instead of West to the Americas.

Makes one wonder...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at March 27, 2013 12:42 PM (fMiHM)

259 Do you really think Jesus saidhe'd do those things before Muhammad
lived?


Of course not. The idea that Jesus would promise to kill his own people is absurd.

I was talking about the logic of apocalyptic circles. If the Jewish Messiah is here, then, yeah, if it's Jesus or Nehemiah bar Hoshiel or Bar Kosiba or freakin' Shabtai Sevi he's going to have a problem with the Jews who don't believe. Islam comes out of these circles.

If Jesus is a prophet then why is his proclamation of being the
son of God ignored?


Because fuck you, says the Muslim. Islam has its own scriptures and treats the older ones with varying degrees of contempt.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 27, 2013 12:42 PM (QTHTd)

260 224 sven,

Morrissey's take is probably similar to that ofmost conservative bloggers: Jump right into the weeds and tussle over 'rights.' Which simply means the university hires a slightly more expensive lawyer to help it follow the letter of the law, and nothing else changes.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:42 PM (9KqcB)

261
Yup, I misread. My bad guys.

Premature Commentation.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 12:43 PM (+z4pE)

262 //Shit nobody in academia admits about the Crusades.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (LRFds)


Sure they do. After, they fixed the history.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 27, 2013 12:43 PM (zNKmn)

263 It’s about (crudely, I admit) getting students to confront their own inhibitions and taboos.

It’s — to put it crassly — a conversation starter.


Why
Do people
Pay tuition money
For this?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 27, 2013 12:43 PM (T0NGe)

264 "The Crusade was a religious movement, but it was also a perfectly
rational movement; one might almost say a rationalist movement. I could
quite understand Mr. Pound saying that such a campaign for a creed was
immoral; and indeed it often has been, and now perhaps generally is,
quite horribly immoral. But when he implies that it is irrational he has
selected exactly the thing which it is not. It is not enlightenment, on
the contrary it is ignorance and insularity, which causes most of us to
miss this fact. But it certainly is the fact that religious war is in
itself much more rational than patriotic way. I for one have often
defended and even encouraged patriotic war, and should always be ready
to defend and encourage patriotic passion. But it cannot be denied that
there is more of mere passion, of mere preference and prejudice, in
short of mere personal accident, in fighting another nation than in
fighting another faith. The Crusader is in every sense more rational
than the modern conscript or professional soldier. He is more rational
in his object, which is the intelligent and intelligible object of
conversion; where the modern militarist has an object much more confused
by momentary vanity and one-sided satisfaction. The Crusader wished to
make Jerusalem a Christian town; but the Englishman does not wish to
make Berlin an English town. He has only a healthy hatred of it as a
Prussian town. The Moslem wished to make the Christian a Moslem; but
even the Prussian did not wish to make the Frenchman a Prussian. He only
wished to make the Frenchman admire a Prussian; and not only were the
means he adopted somewhat ill-considered for this purpose, but the
purpose itself is looser and more irrational. The object of all war is
peace; but the object of religious war is mental as well as material
peace; it is agreement. In short religious war aims ultimately at
equality, where national war aims relatively at superiority. Conversion
is the one sort of conquest in which the conquered must rejoice."

- G.K.Chesterton (The New Jerusalem 1920)

Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:43 PM (z3Lez)

265 "write down the most important thing to you" now stomp on
it...

***

I am not stomping on a picture of Kate Upton's boobs!

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2013 12:44 PM (XUKZU)

266 The teacher is currently writing a book:

Obamamania: The Rise of a Mythical Hero

Is it necessary to say anything else about this colossal douche?

Posted by: mare at March 27, 2013 12:44 PM (A98Xu)

267 260 CJ,

correct...Ed is like the cops in reno 911 in the foxworthy episode that was a send up of Smokey and the bandit...

stuck playing 'the game"...

well I want to change the game.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:45 PM (LRFds)

268 265
"write down the most important thing to you" now stomp on

it...

***

I am not stomping on a picture of Kate Upton's boobs!


Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2013 12:44 PM
====
Well, OK.., there you have it. Principle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:45 PM (aDwsi)

269 I am not stomping on a picture of Kate Upton's boobs! Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2013 12:44 PM (XUKZU)

How about Kathy Griffin's crotch?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2013 12:46 PM (sbV1u)

270 265 WalrusRex,

YOU NEED TO STOMP ON THEM BOOBS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE WR now get to it...

//Dork prof

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:46 PM (LRFds)

271 I'd like to think I would refuse to renounce Christ even with a gun to my head, but (thankfully and fortunately) daily life for most of us doesn't usually offer such dramatic opportunities for demonstrations of faith.However, I find myself a little envious of the Mormon kid who was blessed with such an opportunity. No, he wasn't held at gunpoint or anything like that, but there were consequences for his witness. I'm sorry he was expelled and forced to endure all he's endured so far, but I'm guessing he is (or will be) grateful for what happened.

Posted by: troyriser at March 27, 2013 12:46 PM (vtiE6)

272 there is some shit i will not eat---- e.e. cummings

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2013 12:46 PM (aDwsi)

273 I'm beginning to think my year in Kindergarten would be worth 3 years of college credit now.>>

Add in the potty training you received prior to it and it's worth a 4 year degree.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2013 12:47 PM (wrS2o)

274 ::: Morrissey's take is probably similar to that ofmost conservative bloggers: Jump right into the weeds and tussle over 'rights.' Which simply means the university hires a slightly more expensive lawyer to help it follow the letter of the law, and nothing else changes. :::

Agreed.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 27, 2013 12:48 PM (csi6Y)

275 Did Kate Upton ruin our thread or make it better? Better! Thanks for clarifying boulder.

Posted by: Draki at March 27, 2013 12:48 PM (L8r/r)

276 So, a glorified baby sitter at a glorifed community college really got Christians to challenge their beliefs by acting out his personal revenge fantasies.
Win win.
And to think, only 25% of college grads are doing jobs that are basically unskilled.
BTW, toots, I don't think any chick who excelled at the Jesus stomping class is going to get her MRS degree. Just saying.

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at March 27, 2013 12:48 PM (QxSug)

277
237 185 145 jean,The Crusades were a defensive action, it is why Jihadi Jim hates that the west got rifles.//Shit nobody in academia admits about the Crusades.Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:26 PM (LRFds) ----------------“…but out of the desert, from the dry places and the dreadful suns, come the cruel children of the lonely God; the real Unitarians who with scimitar in hand have laid waste the world. For it is not well for God to be alone.” – G.K.Chesterton on Islam (The Romance of Orthodoxy, Orthodoxy
Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:36 PM (z3Lez)


There is at least one. Search for the article "The real history of the Crusades" by Thomas Madden. He's a professor at St. Louis University.

He's also got a good article about things you may not expect about the Spanish Inquisition

Posted by: buzzion at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (GULKT)

278 Another fun religious fact: The Nation of Islam (the heretical black nationalist muslim sect) believes that white people are a race of demon-creatures created in genetic breeding experiments by an evil black scientist name Yakob 6000 years ago.

Obama's church gave the NOI leader a lifetime achievement award did it not?
It sure did: http://tinyurl.com/3dmd6a

I know all about media bias, but the Right's inability to properly mock this shit and the Democrats associated with it is inexcusable.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (9KqcB)

279 sure sure, the crusades.
Woe is them. I guess we're all equal, culturally after all.
So, can I keep my culture and ignore yours now?

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (QxSug)

280 You know what people don't pay tuition for?

Oprah's book club.

Please tell me how these classes are better than Oprah's book club.

You don't need to pay tuition to go to Oprah's book club.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (T0NGe)

281
Ace, dude, check this out in the sidebar at the link in this post:

Plus, Jay-Z gets called out for dissing legendary singer/songwriter Paul Anka.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (+z4pE)

282 Obama's church gave the NOI leader a lifetime achievement award did it not? It sure did:
***
How dare you, sir!
Don't you know that guilt by association is something that can only be done to conservatives.

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at March 27, 2013 12:50 PM (QxSug)

283
271I'd like to think I would refuse to renounce Christ even with a gun to my head, but (thankfully and fortunately) daily life for most of us doesn't usually offer such dramatic opportunities for demonstrations of faith.
---
I'm reading the Gulag Archipeligo and the chapter on interrogation has me certain that the State is capable of having anyone confess to anything.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:52 PM (SO2Q8)

284 The senior vice president of student affairs of FAU release a youtube apology on this. No word on what's happening to the prof....



http://tinyurl.com/d7vgn6n

Posted by: Tami at March 27, 2013 12:52 PM (X6akg)

285 well I want to change the game.

Introducing: Ace TV (channel 4375 on Comcast Digital) And then the change begins.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:52 PM (9KqcB)

286 Also, this whole thing stinks to me of performance reviews. If the governor of Florida can ask a college why they're a bunch of pillow biting pinko commies, then the next step would be actually checking to make sure that the teachers are doing their jobs.
And the union thugs can't have that. It'd be like the 1920's labor movement all over again! Except without the strike breakers or deplorable working conditions.
or work.

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at March 27, 2013 12:52 PM (QxSug)

287 283 Buzzsaw90,

yup and then have you thank them for killing you...

Hillary!'s special friends are my nightmare fuel

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 12:53 PM (LRFds)

288 Yep, when Malcolm X used to call white people - "white devils" he didn't mean "I'm really angry that white people supported Slavery and Jim Crow." Nope, he called them "white devils" as in "I believe you are one of the white demon-creatures the evil black scientist Yakob created on his island laboratory thousands of years ago to take over the world and enslave the black man who is destined to rule the world again by divine right."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:54 PM (ZPrif)

289 Also, can we admit that Britney Griner is clearly a man?
As in, chromosomally she's a dude.
That's why she won't compete in the Olympics. She can't pass the gender test.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2013 12:55 PM (ZPrif)

290 Vile, indeed. FAU is a hotbed of weirdo liberals and transgenders.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky Loves Florida Gulf Coast basketball at March 27, 2013 12:55 PM (baL2B)

291
I'm reading the Gulag Archipeligo and the chapter on
interrogation has me certain that the State is capable of having anyone
confess to anything.


Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 27, 2013 12:52 PM (SO2Q
-------------

So far, Pastor Saaed Abedini is holding out in Iran. I cannot even imagine.




Posted by: mama winger at March 27, 2013 12:56 PM (P6QsQ)

292
277

There is at least one. Search for the article "The real history of
the Crusades" by Thomas Madden. He's a professor at St. Louis
University.



He's also got a good article about things you may not expect about the Spanish Inquisition

Posted by: buzzion at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (GULKT)
----------------
Thanks for the references. I'll check them out.
I have never understood how the Crusaders were guilty of "attacking" Islam, when Christianity had already been in the Holy Land for 570 years BEFORE Muhammad was even born.

Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:56 PM (z3Lez)

293 The senior vice president of student affairs of FAU release a youtube apology on this. No word on what's happening to the prof....

That’s nice but I don’t want an apology. I want a comprehensive review of the THINKING BEHIND the project. I don’t want to let it go with the usual ‘apology, discipline everyone move along’ schtick.

You can tell the media want that with how they opened the article:

Florida Atlantic University has apologized for a controversial classroom lesson that led critics to accuse the school of religious intolerance. But that didn’t stop Gov. Rick Scott for stepping into the fray on Tuesday.

Two sentences in and they’ve managed to roll their eyes at all the fuss. No more.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:57 PM (9KqcB)

294 Yep, when Malcolm X used to call white people - "white devils" he didn't mean "I'm really angry that white people supported Slavery and Jim Crow." Nope, he called them "white devils" as in "I believe you are one of the white demon-creatures the evil black scientist Yakob created on his island laboratory thousands of years ago to take over the world and enslave the black man who is destined to rule the world again by divine right."

As when rappers and other black activists use the term "devils" (see West, Kanye), it means two different things for two different audiences. Whites pretend it means 'racist whites' while black nationalists use it for all whites.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 01:00 PM (9KqcB)

295 You don't need to pay tuition to go to Oprah's book club.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (T0NGe)

You do have to like "behemoths," however (3rd photo down in linky)http://tinyurl.com/cuf8nhe

Posted by: ChristyBlinky Loves Florida Gulf Coast basketball at March 27, 2013 01:00 PM (baL2B)

296 That’s nice but I don’t want an apology. I want a
comprehensive review of the THINKING BEHIND the project. I don’t want to
let it go with the usual ‘apology, discipline everyone move along’
schtick.



You can tell the media want that with how they opened the article:



Florida Atlantic University has apologized for a controversial
classroom lesson that led critics to accuse the school of religious
intolerance. But that didn’t stop Gov. Rick Scott for stepping into the
fray on Tuesday.



Two sentences in and they’ve managed to roll their eyes at all the fuss. No more.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:57 PM (9KqcB)

Notice in the video where he says the 'lesson came from a professor at another university.'

Uh...huh....so, Poole was FORCED! to use it? I mean, WTF?

Posted by: Tami at March 27, 2013 01:01 PM (X6akg)

297 Ace knocks it out of the park.

Posted by: fb at March 27, 2013 01:01 PM (JVEmw)

298 Thanks for the references. I'll check them out.I have never understood how the Crusaders were guilty of "attacking" Islam, when Christianity had already been in the Holy Land for 570 years BEFORE Muhammad was even born.
Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 12:56 PM (z3Lez)


Read anything by him you can find online. Its written in a fairly entertaining manner obviously meant to be understood by everyone and not just as scholarly work.

Posted by: buzzion at March 27, 2013 01:03 PM (GULKT)

299 298 Buzzion,

it's a masterful work...

I had an epic takedown on kingdom of heaven I wrote...

nothing compared to that piece though.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 01:04 PM (LRFds)

300 speaking of smashing assumptions, do any of these pinko courses ever challenge the two basic assumptions of their existence?
Assumption 1: gimme
Assumption 2: white men suck balls, unless they're gay in which case they're better than jesus.

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at March 27, 2013 01:05 PM (QxSug)

301 Ace, awesome post!

Posted by: Mindy at March 27, 2013 01:05 PM (wk9P4)

302 A gloriously great post. You realize that this all applies to many other topics, including the newest dance craze, Same-Sex Marriage (rather than Opposite-Sex Marriage!). I have already donated to the Ace-a-thon, but will be giving again. It was that good.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 27, 2013 01:05 PM (71LDo)

303 From Hot Air comments:

http://is.gd/SFXDaR

Despite a misleading press release from FAU, apparently the student IS being punished.

Posted by: shoeless hunter at March 27, 2013 01:07 PM (dY+4R)

304 #StompOnMohammad

Simple. Easy. Eat.Me.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 27, 2013 01:08 PM (pDRpv)

305 ("This isn't just about double-standards. It is about that, of course,
but it isn't just about that. It's also about the bizarre assumptions
encoded into the Non-Thinking among our supposed Cognitive Elite.")


“Without education, we are in a horrible and deadly danger of taking educated people seriously.” - G.K. Chesterton

Posted by: Strife at March 27, 2013 01:10 PM (z3Lez)

306 Notice in the video where he says the 'lesson came from a professor at another university.'

Exactly. Stuff like this is common practice. If we allow it to pass with an apology and a reprimand, they win.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 01:16 PM (9KqcB)

307
299 298 Buzzion,it's a masterful work...I had an epic takedown on kingdom of heaven I wrote...nothing compared to that piece though.
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 01:04 PM (LRFds)


So did he. http://tinyurl.com/23nknmr

Posted by: buzzion at March 27, 2013 01:16 PM (GULKT)

308 307 Buzzion,

I read it...I used the line "Saladin? More like Alladin"

he pointed out far more anachronistic juxtaposition than I did but hey he's a pro I am just a simple layman....

guy is a genius.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 01:18 PM (LRFds)

309 These be the stomping times

Posted by: Peace signs on the soles of my shoes at March 27, 2013 01:20 PM (bQMb4)

310 Great post, Ace, since it bypassed the trap of the "free speech" angle and got to the heart of the professor's true intent.
Off to on Amazon to find "Gulag Archipelego" and "The real history of
the Crusades." (Hubby's already taken care of the AR-15 and ammo situation.)
Also wondering how much of this will have changed by the time my kid is ready for university. The bubble's got to burst soon, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 27, 2013 01:22 PM (KqmXZ)

311 I also hope that a professor would understand he had crossed a line if he asked an atheist, like me, to bow down to a shrine.

He asked everyone in the class to bow down to a shrine the moment they walked through the door.

Posted by: no good deed at March 27, 2013 01:22 PM (mjR67)

312 Brilliant. Nicely done. It's all about the double standards. That they never think to notice.

Posted by: Rick67 at March 27, 2013 01:26 PM (c9uVG)

313 One more point..Intercultural Communications Professor?

Once wallowing in this crap becomes your full-time job, you're going to resort to stupid shit like this just to fill the time. All of these niche courses succumb to that.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 01:28 PM (9KqcB)

314 I'm proud to discover that the dissenting student is LDS. Hooray for you Ryan Rotela!

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2013 01:30 PM (1lyEg)

315 In all actuality, this student civil rights were violated.
He should sue the professor, the school and the board of regents.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 27, 2013 01:30 PM (MhA4j)

316 I think the students should ask the professor to piss on his own degree.

Posted by: no good deed at March 27, 2013 01:34 PM (mjR67)

317 This is one of your best, Ace.

Posted by: huerfano at March 27, 2013 01:35 PM (bAGA/)

318 student got suspended for threatening the instructor's boss to whom he went several days after still bitchin' about something he was asked to do, but chose not to do. This deserves less OUTRAGE then Tentgate or the Menendez underage hooker scandal

Posted by: occam at March 27, 2013 01:38 PM (LNq9e)

319 I know all about media bias, but the Right's
inability to properly mock this shit and the Democrats associated with
it is inexcusable.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 12:49 PM (9KqcB)


I've long referred to Calypso Louie's cult as Black Scientology as written by al-Rahn Hubbard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2013 01:40 PM (EefAv)

320 student got suspended for threatening the instructor's boss to whom he went several days after still bitchin' about something he was asked to do, but chose not to do. This deserves less OUTRAGE then Tentgate or the Menendez underage hooker scandal

Great job seeing the little picture.

Posted by: CJ at March 27, 2013 01:41 PM (9KqcB)

321 Lizzy,

The real history of the crusades is an article so not on amazon. Check Thomas maddens wiki page to see the books he does have.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 27, 2013 01:47 PM (6XP3o)

322 Brilliantly-stated. This is, in a nutshell, why I feel most "education" at traditional 4-year institutions is largely a waste of time and money. Universities no longer teach genuine critical thinking and research methods, they no longer foster true diversity, and they certainly don't guarantee a career or even a job.

When companies fail to deliver on their promises, they're sued or worse. Why is it that places like Harvard are exempt?

Posted by: Saber Alter at March 27, 2013 01:52 PM (8V74Y)

323 I laughed hardest when Juan Williams defended forcing students to follow rote orders verbatim regardless of their opinions or beliefs as an exercise in "critical thinking".

Seriously, that's how he defends this situation; he believes forcing a student to do something while following orders is teaching them "critical thinking".

I'm guessing he might not have "critical thinking" skills beyond that himself.

Posted by: gekkobear at March 27, 2013 02:18 PM (BI9vB)

324 323 gekkobear,

Eric Holder was a domestic terrorist....he runs the FBI...Barack borrowed sugar quote unquote from Billy Ayers...

The M-1917 Trench knife is a great invention

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 27, 2013 02:22 PM (LRFds)

325 I see nothing wrong with what this professor did. The real crime was the student being a snitch.

Posted by: BA Degree, 1968, and still on a college campus at March 27, 2013 02:28 PM (pmsMR)

326 When does the esteemed professor Skip Gates chime in on this?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 27, 2013 02:50 PM (BAS5M)

327 Ace: "But does a Muslim learn that lesson from stomping on the name Jesus? No."

Not so quick.

You might notice that Muslims never call him Jesus Christ.

But any proper Muslim will always say "Jesus, blessed be his name". If they say the name Jesus five times in a paragraph, they also say "blessed be his name" five times as well. This is especially true with Islamic scholars and imams.

Jesus is a fairly major semi-prophet to Muslims so don't be too sure that Muslims would stomp that paper.

Recall their fetish over books and writings with the Koran or holy scripture or content.

The story might have been quite different if there had been a devout Muslim in the classroom.

Posted by: TooCon at March 27, 2013 03:06 PM (f+yEj)

328 I hate to admit it, but I graduated from that school some 40+ years ago. It must have started precipitously downhill the year after I left. I would not send my poor dog there today. It wasn't just the teacher involved in this foolishness - it was the entire administration! Until the public's common sense embarrassed them. But the culture remains. They'll probably have students sign some sort of gag order before being admitted to such classes. Fascinating how promoting "tolerance" can be so intolerant.

Posted by: gfmucci at March 30, 2013 07:37 PM (SZZFS)






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