Your Government Is Now Officially Your Religion

They told me that if I voted for Romney, we'd have gibbering zealots imposing their strange religious dogmas on us, and they were right!

And they were right.

And they were right.

You know, some of us don't join religions because we actually don't want to have strange devotional rituals and forbiddances imposed on us.

But religion is voluntary. Government law is not. Why are these monsters -- yes, monsters -- encoding their bizarre religious devotions into law?

As I've said: God save us from those with no god but but bursting at the seams with Religion.

I do not want religion in my government. And that means the bizarre Leftist Cult of the State with all its priests and all its mysteries and all its devotions and dogmas and catechisms.


Posted by: Ace at 04:36 PM



Comments

1 Anybody else feel like there's a convergence going on between this site and Instapundit?

I blame myself, really.

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:37 PM (I2LwF)

2 Forget it aceman, its Commiefornia.

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (53z96)

3 But more to the point, this is what totalitarianism looks like. A petit totality at this point, sure. But totalitarianism grows. It insists upon itself.

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (I2LwF)

4 Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (hEr50)

5
Myth : Freedom is the way

Countermyth : Homo.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (AWl8t)

6 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:40 PM (4OvDk)

7 CA liberals like to think that they are the free-ist of the States. But it speaks volumes as to how Fascist a liberal State actually is.



There is a reason smart people are leaving that State in droves and the only ones coming in are the FSA and looters.

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 04:41 PM (53z96)

8 Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (hEr50)
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Both of which are getting less effective as the populace continues to dumb down.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 20, 2013 04:41 PM (jucos)

9 Expect to see attempts by gov't to tax e-cigs

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 20, 2013 04:41 PM (8sCoq)

10 Recall the post Ace wrote some time ago, where he was in awe of old California because there you could actually build a fire on the beach? Without permission? And people would naturally assume they needed none?

Now the first thing we must ask about anything we do is "are we permitted?"

Thanks for missing us, Asteroid 2012 DA14. Thanks a whole fucking lot.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:41 PM (j3uk1)

11 Liberalism is the grey goo of social construction.

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (I2LwF)

12 We just feel that it's in your best interest to face the NorthWest and pray 5 times a day.

Why do you fight us?

Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (u2a4R)

13 How hard/expensive would it be to get a Remington 10/22 modified to look like an AR15? I've never bothered to look.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (4OvDk)

14 All they're trying to do is encourage healthy practices in our children.

Like fisting.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (CJjw5)

15 President Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu had a light-hearted moment when Obama introduced his chief foreign policy speechwriter Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes. Pointing at Rhodes, Obama said to Netanyahu, "Just remember that anything offensive that I say, it's because of him." Obama then pointed out that Ben's brother, David, runs CBS News and has a "proud Jewish mother."

Netanyahu quipped, "It sounds like a very incestuous relationship,"

"Not if you watch CBS News," Obama retorted.

Posted by: Gary Busey at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (e8kgV)

16 I still have trouble resolving the years long fight to get smoking banned and cigarettes eliminated only to have marijuana legalized. Yeah, don't go telling me the "smoke" is different and that people who smoke marijuana don't do the long term damage to themselves that cigarettes do. I'm not buying it.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (RZ8pf)

17 We're going to burn you at the stake in an eco-friendly way, heretic.

Posted by: Typical Democrat at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (YYJjz)

18 Dogmas, devotions, catechisms, rituals.

Whew! For a second there I thought Ace was aiming at the Catholic Church again.


Posted by: Al at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (V70Uh)

19 >CA liberals like to think that they are the free-ist of the States. But it speaks volumes as to how Fascist a liberal State actually is.


the stuff that isn't against the law in CA would probably fill a complete legal-pad size piece of paper

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (8sCoq)

20 In a way, this is another example of the folly of the Left.
In Europe, where religions are established, church attendance is much smaller than here (where real religions are not established).
Somebody trustworthy told me you can get a drink in Salt Lake City, for example.

Posted by: Thorvald drinking good Scotch in broad daylight at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (1V6Pv)

21 The viewpoint that this kind of arbitrary exercise of power is benign needs to be destroyed.

Some Dem's were bitching that we were making government out to be the bad guy. It's past time we make that a fucking reality.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 20, 2013 04:44 PM (UCv7P)

22 While I, as a sentient human being, am personally offended by Axe fragrances, I also do not have the right not to have my senses offended.

Mary Katherine Ham appears to be deeply out of touch with our zeitgeist. On the other hand she's white, so she doesn't have many rights anyhow.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:44 PM (j3uk1)

23 Countermyth :You'll thank us.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 20, 2013 04:44 PM (AWmfW)

24 Somebody trustworthy told me you can get a drink in Salt Lake City, for example.

Well of course you can, silly. Here, have some tea.

Posted by: Some Mormon in Salt Lake City, for example at March 20, 2013 04:44 PM (4OvDk)

25 >>>16 I still have trouble resolving the years long fight to get smoking banned and cigarettes eliminated only to have marijuana legalized. Yeah, don't go telling me the "smoke" is different and that people who smoke marijuana don't do the long term damage to themselves that cigarettes do. I'm not buying it.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (RZ8pf)


"Because, shut up," they explained.

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:44 PM (I2LwF)

26 But more to the point, this is what totalitarianism looks like.

But it's for your own good. You oughta be thanking them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (/kI1Q)

27 We've earned slavery and dammit, we're gonna get it!

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (8ZskC)

28 Good good. Now take up your light saber and strike them down.

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (QupBk)

29 And, yes, that last one was a joke.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (4OvDk)

30 When schools and teachers react hysterically to such non-threats, they¡¯re telling us one of two things: Either that they


are scared children themselves, or metrosexual pussies.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (GFM2b)

31
Heh.

http://tinyurl.com/cgp5dbl

Posted by: maddogg at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (OlN4e)

32 The contract agency I work with hasa huge sign on its door "this is a fragrance free office" and they have rules about the kind of soap and shampoo you use in addition to the no cologne or perfume or scented lotion rules.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (RZ8pf)

33 The White Horse prophesy points to.... JOHN KERRY?!?!?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 04:46 PM (FsUAO)

34 Comfort Eagle says all that needs to be said on this:

To resist it is useless

It is useless to resist it

His cigarette is burning

But he never seems to ash. . .
We are building a religion

We are making a brand

We're the only ones to turn to

When your castles turn to sand

Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 04:46 PM (8wqqE)

35
Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.
Posted by: Dr. Varno




...and ruthless efficiency

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 20, 2013 04:46 PM (kdS6q)

36 The viewpoint that this kind of arbitrary exercise of power is benign needs to be destroyed.

Yep. A government which can do these things can do anything.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:46 PM (4OvDk)

37 A Payday bar will violate both the peanut ban and the zipgun-shaped object ban. Instant expulsion.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 04:46 PM (8ZskC)

38 How hard/expensive would it be to get a Remington 10/22 modified to look like an AR15? I've never bothered to look.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (4OvDk)

Damn hard since the 10/22 is a Ruger <snark>

But it is still damn hard because they are virtually impossible to find just like ammo right now

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 04:46 PM (53z96)

39
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (RZ8pf)



I suppose they call in a HAZMAT team for a fart.

Posted by: maddogg at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (OlN4e)

40 @24 No s**t?
My source told me it was more than the Baghdad Hilton.

Posted by: Thorvald drinking good Scotch in broad daylight at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (1V6Pv)

41 They're immune to ridicule as only the truly zealous can be. And they're wearing mirrored sunglasses whenever they knock on your door in the dead of night.

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (I2LwF)

42 NOT THE BEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (QupBk)

43 I would like to nail my 95 feces to the door of the White House.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (tqLft)

44 How hard/expensive would it be to get a Remington 10/22 modified to look like an AR15? I've never bothered to look.


Not too terribly hard or $$. Bunch of aftermarket kits are out there.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (GFM2b)

45 Dogmas, devotions, catechisms, rituals. Whew! For a second there I thought Ace was aiming at the Catholic Church again. Posted by: Al at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (V70Uh)

Naw. He wouldn't do that. Why, every religion has something called a "catechism". Specifically. By that very name.

They also have "strange devotional rituals and forbiddances"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 20, 2013 04:47 PM (sbV1u)

46 When schools and teachers react hysterically to such non-threats, they¡¯re telling us one of two things: Either that they





are scared children themselves, or metrosexual pussies.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (GFM2b)



They're incredibly stupid and immature and can't handle things like an adult.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (1Jaio)

47 35 LDC,

I'd say creativity and drive, the whole "ruthless efficiency" thing is more their kicks....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (LRFds)

48 Margaret Atwood wondered if, one day, this country would lose its Constitution and get an explicitly Christian government a la revolutionary Iran.

I wonder if that theocracy would be freer than the system we got now.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (QTHTd)

49 maddogg, let's just say that the office doesn't smell all that great. I guess some granola types take the rules to mean it is OK not to bathe or wear deoderant.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (RZ8pf)

50
Damn hard since the 10/22 is a Ruger


D*mn it. I knew that sounded wrong.
I even checked both bing and google and both had results for "Remington 10/22."

Here's my card. Please be gentle.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (4OvDk)

51 Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.

...and ruthless efficiency


And an almost fanatical devotion to the post.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (j3uk1)

52 When they get done with us, we'll all be perfect.

Posted by: mama winger at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (P6QsQ)

53 :::The contract agency I work with hasa huge sign on its door "this is a fragrance free office" and they have rules about the kind of soap and shampoo you use in addition to the no cologne or perfume or scented lotion rules.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (RZ8pf):::

Sensible. Especially for the whores in the Legal Department. It's like their slut-glands produce it non-stop, or something.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (CJjw5)

54 If you're going to have a religion in charge of your government wouldn't you rather it be Christianity. At least they only want 10%

Posted by: Buzzion at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (S8Kpn)

55 I would like to nail my 95 feces to the door of the White House.


PRO TIP: You don't need nails if you have a good throwing arm.

Posted by: A Monkey at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (8ZskC)

56 I suppose they call in a HAZMAT team for a fart.

Then the school cafeteria will likely be a superfund cleanup site.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (j3uk1)

57 They're incredibly stupid and immature and can't handle things like an adult.

Lots of teachers and maybe most school administrators simply never left school.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (QTHTd)

58 These are the muslim marchers who beat themselves over the head with pointy wooden sticks to prove themselves worthy of their pedophile prophet.
These are the hairshirt monks.
These are the dumb shit Jets fans that go to night games wearing nothing but body paint.

They are immune to ridicule.

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (I2LwF)

59
Remember when we were kids and would so often retort, "It's a free country!".
I said that to my kids the other day and then had to think about it.
I hope they can always say it.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (J+V/o)

60 Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.

...and ruthless efficiency


And an almost fanatical devotion to the post.



That's four things.

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (QupBk)

61 Speaking of religion...

Devout muslim woman burns her 17 year old daughter with hot knife for resisting an arranged marriage. Happened in Florida. The grandma says it was an accident because... wait for it... the house they live in has an oven.

Inside the house. An oven. "Look at me. I'm inside the house. Now look at what I'm touching. An oven. We should be on Cribs or some shit. Who wants fucking Bagel Bites®? Hot Bagelbites®, bitchez - step the fuck back!"

The shit you find in non-third world homes these days. Amazing.

http://tinyurl.com/cyemk2x

Posted by: Dang at March 20, 2013 04:50 PM (R18D0)

62 I want to fashion an e-cigarette into the shape of a partly chewed Pop-Tart.
Hilarity will ensue.

Posted by: Roy at March 20, 2013 04:50 PM (VndSC)

63 If you're going to have a religion in charge of your government wouldn't you rather it be Christianity. At least they only want 10%

Also "For me all things are permissible..." (yes, I know its out of context, sort of).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:50 PM (4OvDk)

64 Modified 10/22

http://imageshack.us/photo/my___s/38/1022x.jpg/

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 04:50 PM (53z96)

65 55 I would like to nail my 95 feces to the door of the White House.


PRO TIP: You don't need nails if you have a good throwing arm.

Posted by: A Monkey at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (8ZskC)


I was channeling my inner Martin Luther.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2013 04:50 PM (tqLft)

66 The contract agency I work with hasa huge sign on its door "this is a
fragrance free office" and they have rules about the kind of soap and
shampoo you use in addition to the no cologne or perfume or scented
lotion rules.


Marinating in chemicals that cause respiratory failure in others is your RIGHT, DAMMIT.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (/kI1Q)

67 25
>>>16 I still have trouble resolving the years long fight to
get smoking banned and cigarettes eliminated only to have marijuana
legalized. Yeah, don't go telling me the "smoke" is different and that
people who smoke marijuana don't do the long term damage to themselves
that cigarettes do. I'm not buying it.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (RZ8pf)

___________
It is hypocritical. But the effects aren't anwyehre close to the same. Nobody smokes 2 packs a day of pot. Well outside of Snoop Dogg anyway.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (HDgX3)

68 They are immune to ridicule.

That's the frightening possibility. These clones of Pol Pot in slacks and polo shirts care only about power.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (j3uk1)

69 The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that
workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That
$600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new
policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies
looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health
conditions.


Under the new federal health care
insurance mandate, companies may also penalize obese workers, smokers
and anyone else who doesn't participate in the company wellness plan and
meet specific goals.







Since most lesbians are overweight, why is Barry discriminating against them? Is he a lesbophobe?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (1Jaio)

70 BTW, Ace - you still using the e-cigs or are you back to sucking the paper dick?*





*don't be all mad, gurrrrl, I smoked for 15 years.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (CJjw5)

71 >Remember when we were kids and would so often retort, "It's a free country!".
I said that to my kids the other day and then had to think about it.




I have started saying 'it's a relatively free country'

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (8sCoq)

72 How can I take any post seriously that hasn't traveled back and forth in time?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (AWl8t)

73 If government is religion, does that mean conservatives are agnostics and libertarians atheists?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (hLRSq)

74 I wonder if that theocracy would be freer than the system we got now.


Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 04:48 PM (QTHTd)

------------
Depending on the creed, I think that's a distinct possibility. The one I adhere to says, "All things are lawful. It's just that not all things are beneficial." And "Love your neighbor as you do your own self."

Fairly benign. Far less restrictive than what we've got now.

Posted by: mama winger at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (P6QsQ)

75 67 Mr. Moo moo,

right and you don't hold the hit in from tobacco quite the same way...

I'd be interested in seeing a peer reviewed study...

fucking stoners.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (LRFds)

76 Why don't you want those who know better than you NOT to tell you what to do?

I can point to a whole bunch of stupid shit you've done in your life that wouldn't have happened if you'd just have listened to those who know better than you.

Do you want a life where you make bad choices?

Or do you want a life where all the good choices have been made for you?

Which is better, the life of bad choices or the life of good choices?

(But seriously, that's how they think. It sounds so good but it is oh so fucking evil.)

(Bonus points: This isn't a party thing. It is the very heart of good vs. evil--free will--and a lot of Republicans are happy to jump on board.)

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (VjL9S)

77
And an almost fanatical devotion to the post.
Posted by: Grumpy Cat





Well done. 10 points to Gryffindor.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (kdS6q)

78 :::The contract agency I work with hasa huge sign on its door "this is a fragrance free office" and they have rules about the kind of soap and shampoo you use in addition to the no cologne or perfume or scented lotion rules. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:45 PM (RZ8pf):::

Unfortunately, I work for the Federal government. When my office tried something like this, the chick who bathes in perfume every morning filed an EEO complaint.

Why, Sean, whatever was her complaint? That she was being discriminated against as a "fragranced-American"?

No...she was a hyphenated American alright, and as such, she gets anything she wants. I still sneeze every single time I have to walk by her desk.

Damn stuff sticks in the back of your throat its so heavy.....

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (sbV1u)

79 13 How hard/expensive would it be to get a Remington 10/22 modified to look like an AR15? I've never bothered to look.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (4OvDk)

A Ruger 10/22 usually costs around $250, and a cheap kit would be around $100 at least and it would still take 10/22 mags. Probably cheaper to buy a Colt or SW 22 AR. It'll look better and is not much more. I've seen them for around $400.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (t06LC)

80 We're going to burn you at the stake in an eco-friendly way, heretic.

***

What yu need is propane and propane accessories.

Posted by: Hank Hill at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (Hx5uv)

81 @48 If done right, it most certainly would be.
Anyone can be good with a gun to his head. Force discounts virtue in exact proportion (Thorvald's Rule 145.19.
Only free good people are really good.
(N.B. The Devil wants to run your Charity.)

Posted by: Thorvald drinking good Scotch in broad daylight at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (1V6Pv)

82 Devout muslim woman burns her 17 year old daughter with hot knife for resisting an arranged marriage.

How dare we judge people with different religious viewpoints when they dismember their children, amirite?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (/kI1Q)

83 The e-cigs thing makes no sense. It does away with almost every complaint a non-smoker can have. I don't mind what anyone does with their own hide, and if they feel steadier with some nicotine, that's their business. I love e-cigs because they don't make other people besides the willing, smoke them. Regular cigarette smoke hurts my skin and eyes and breathing passages and lungs. It also smells terrible, and coats everything in an oily residue that stinks and burns. E-cigs - nuthin.

Posted by: Sarahw at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (LYwCh)

84 Simply, these old rich fucking bastards don't know how to enjoy life, and no amount of wealth and leisure can ever compensate for their misery and insanity. It's a character flaw that's baked into the bread.

I thank God for their mortality.

Posted by: Fritz at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (WM+rJ)

85 seriously though- what IS the most free country in the world?

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (8sCoq)

86 I was channeling my inner Martin Luther.

Well played, if you know anything about Luther.

*golf clap*

Just for that I won't pee in your shoes. Today.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (j3uk1)

87
Where did I last read the line about "that which is not expressly allowed is banned"?
Hmmm. I wonder where that was...

Posted by: CS Lewis' Tyrants... at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (lbiWb)

88 >>>No...she was a hyphenated American alright, and as such, she gets anything she wants. I still sneeze every single time I have to walk by her desk.

Leave a tuna sandwich in her desk when you leave on Friday afternoon.

Posted by: Roy at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (VndSC)

89


Bada Bing, Bada BOOM!


Do unto others...

I abhor being preached to.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (XYSwB)

90 There is a reason smart people are leaving that State in droves and the only ones coming in are the FSA and looters.
Posted by: Vic
***

And unfortunately many of those Californians are coming here to AZ. I'm sure they will leave all the stupid leftist beliefs back in CA. (we are sooo screwed)

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (uhftQ)

91 The only thing the government should tell is not to marry people of the same sex.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (AWl8t)

92 24
Somebody trustworthy told me you can get a drink in Salt Lake City, for example.

Well of course you can, silly. Here, have some tea.Posted by: Some Mormon in Salt Lake City, for example at March 20, 2013 04:44 PM (4OvDk)


Irony of that: Utah's legislative session just ended, a valiant effort was made to strike down the "Zion Curtain" laws that were designed to keep impressionable kids from seeing alcoholic drinks in restaurants but are unfair to businesses (and patrons.) I think it will get struck down next session, thank goodness. MIKEY BLOOBERG WANTS TO PASS THE SAME LAW IN NYC BUT FOR CIGARETTES. When I read about his new pet project laws for NY I LOL'd my heart out. The far left and the far right ARE exactly the same sometimes. Smiley face fascism at its best (worst).

Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (8wqqE)

93 Myth: Expensive, ineffective red tape slows the economy and ruins lives.

Countermyth: Government knows what it is doing and is making your life better.

Posted by: Hank Hill at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (Hx5uv)

94 Sweet sweet vindication after the last thread.

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (62WS0)

95 73 If government is religion, does that mean conservatives are agnostics and libertarians atheists?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (hLRSq)

A popular internet anarchist guy says "there is no govt", so there you go!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (FsUAO)

96 Tobacco free for one year in 11 days.
eCig like a m'f*cker.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (GFM2b)

97 Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (RZ8pf)
------------------------------------------------------------
There was a neighbor kid where I grew up who used to smoke the ditch weed all day every day. He is now only qualified to make paintings for the Dutch Government for his welfare stipend. He is a mess..... to this day. Nice to see you around PGiS

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (jucos)

98 85 Jones in CO,

depends on whether you mean raw freedom because the nation is so fucked up there is anarchy or free in the sense of a genuine hand off attitude in a first tier nation?

Most free Zimbabwae, or Somalia....

most free first tier?

Probably Switzerland

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (LRFds)

99 Devout muslim woman burns her 17 year old daughter with hot knife for resisting an arranged marriage.

How dare we judge people with different religious viewpoints when they dismember their children, amirite?


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 04:52 PM (/kI1Q)



As long as we still ban Christmas the holiday displays and music it's okay

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (1Jaio)

100 I think the funniest part is people complaining about how a ban is foisted upon them in government schools without mentioning the government schooling being foisted upon them.

But I have to admit Axe is pretty nasty, especially applied in the "one container per dose" theory, especially when it's to hide the fact that someone didn't bathe.

I think they should allow terrible smells in government schools and make the government schools optional.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (bxiXv)

101
"How hard/expensive would it be to get a Remington 10/22 modified to look like an AR15? I've never bothered to look."

Skip the 10/22 and proceed to a Smith and Wesson MP 15-22 immediately. Spend a little bit more and thank me later.

Posted by: Jaws at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (4I3Uo)

102 :::No...she was a hyphenated American alright, and as such, she gets anything she wants. I still sneeze every single time I have to walk by her desk.:::

What has two thumbs and would be crop-dusting her workstation with every beer-and-fajita fart I had left over from the night before?

THIS GUY
*b* *d*

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (CJjw5)

103 I've come to the conclusion that most teachers are people that simply can not function in the real world, so they stay in school where it's safe. This goes double for collage professors.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (BjJOB)

104 I'm sitting here crying reading Clintons hacked emails. Such a wonderfull caring and innocent person. I hope they catch the hacker who showed how innocent she is and give him some hard time. This hacking must stop!

Posted by: Whatev at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (A7Wh1)

105
Obama statement in Israel:
"I want to speak directly to the Israeli public .. and let them know they have a friend in the United States" - from broadcast
--- ---- --- -

Too badIsrael doesn't have one in the White House.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (1Y+hH)

106 And an almost fanatical devotion to the post.Posted by: Grumpy CatWell done. 10 points to Gryffindor.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
***

That's ok.
Slytherin gets all the loose women.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (uhftQ)

107 If government is my religion, I must be a heretic.


Posted by: Al at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (V70Uh)

108 depends on whether you mean raw freedom because the nation is so fucked up there is anarchy or free in the sense of a genuine hand off attitude in a first tier nation?
...
Probably Switzerland


Can I get a free first tier nation that doesn't get quite so cold?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (4OvDk)

109 lol


“Please be offended please be offended please be offended please be offended” followed by “Why are you offended!!??” = the Lampanelli Cycle.

— jay smooth (@jsmooth995) February 20, 2013

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (hEr50)

110 The new guidelines limit lunchtime and recess visits, ban handing out birthday invitations at school and prohibit visits during the school day by younger siblings.

Succeeding in convincing children that there is no difference between school and prison.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (j3uk1)

111 It's the same mentality that's leading to all these crazy gun laws.

They don't care about safety and acknowledge that the laws won't do what they claim it will do. They just want to punish rednecks.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (I/HMT)

112
"insurance mandate, companies may also penalize obese workers, smokers
and anyone else who doesn't participate in the company wellness plan and
meet specific goals"
In other words, "we can make it up as we go along. You, on the other hand will sit back and take it".

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (lbiWb)

113 83
The e-cigs thing makes no sense. It does away with almost every
complaint a non-smoker can have. I don't mind what anyone does with
their own hide, and if they feel steadier with some nicotine, that's
their business. I love e-cigs because they don't make other people
besides the willing, smoke them. Regular cigarette smoke hurts my skin
and eyes and breathing passages and lungs. It also smells terrible, and
coats everything in an oily residue that stinks and burns. E-cigs -
nuthin.


Posted by: Sarahw at March 20, 2013 04:53 PM (LYwCh)

Tobacco company lobbying meets "do something!".

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (AWmfW)

114

Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (hEr50)



AKA You and Michelle.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (XYSwB)

115 What has two thumbs and would be crop-dusting her workstation with every beer-and-fajita fart I had left over from the night before? THIS GUY *b* *d* Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 04:55 PM (CJjw5)

Potent.

I'm assuming you kept those to yourself during last week's lap dance. Amirite?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (sbV1u)

116
I have for a long time believed that there are more people with strong political views than religious. Or is it just that a larger percentage of them vote?

Either way, heathenism and divisive, splintering political activism are on the uptick.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (J+V/o)

117 Obama statement in Israel:
"I want to speak directly to the Israeli public .. and let them know they have a friend in the United States" - from broadcast



"A friend?" Did he mention Sarah Palin by name?

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (8ZskC)

118 The far left and the far right ARE exactly the same sometimes. Smiley face fascism at its best (worst).


Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (8wqqE)

______________
Yep. It's a circle. Go far enough left you end up on the right and vice versa.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (HDgX3)

119 @66 She's right, unfortunately.
The legal principle of "eggshell skull" comes in with the miasma of urban life.
There are detectable levels of anti-depressants in fish tissue in urban rivers. The sewage treatment doesn't remove them.
Weirdly, the most susceptible seem to gravitate to to the blue urban cesspools.

Posted by: Thorvald drinking good Scotch in broad daylight at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (1V6Pv)

120 The far left and the far right ARE exactly the same sometimes. Smiley face fascism at its best (worst).


Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (8wqqE)

So who is the "far right" there?

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (53z96)

121 108 Allen G,

No..South America is gaining into first tier status though...

at current rate of US descent Brazil will be better than us for business and liberty within 25 years....

already has hotter chicks.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (LRFds)

122 This hacking must stop!
Posted by: Whatev at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (A7Wh1)

Thanks, but a little too late.

Wanna see my weiner?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (t06LC)

123 I think they should allow terrible smells in government schools and make the government schools optional.

It's not like learning is taking place there, anyway.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (j3uk1)

124

Myth: Harvard

Countermyth: Yale


Ad nauseum...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (XYSwB)

125 :::I'm assuming you kept those to yourself during last week's lap dance. Amirite?:::

I didn't get a lap dance. That part was the joke. I just stayed for a beer so I wouldn't feel like a complete chump for paying the cover.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (CJjw5)

126 If anyone doubts that leftism is a religion, just look at how they treat nonbelievers!

Posted by: Weew at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (mWijP)

127 Y'all just lemme know when we are ready to water that tree of liberty.
'cause nothin's gunna change until we do.

Posted by: MrShad at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (Xqfwb)

128
"raw freedom because the nation is so fucked up there is anarchy"
"Anarchy" =/= "freedom". The "rules or it's Somalia" straw man needs to die a horrible death...

(FWIW, "Somalia" isn't "anarchy - it's an area of geographically smaller monarchies tribal lands - government run amok)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (lbiWb)

129 Somebody trustworthy told me you can get a drink in Salt Lake City, for example.



Well of course you can, silly. Here, have some tea.
========
I once gave a homeless guy a few beers in SLC. My car had died and he helped push-start it.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (VjL9S)

130 Skip the 10/22 and proceed to a Smith and Wesson MP 15-22 immediately. Spend a little bit more and thank me later.

Actually, I'm planning for the future education of my kids.

I'm going to start them out on pellet guns (because my wife insists). I'll do a bolt-action .22 for their first "real" gun, but when I get them working on other weapons, I'll want them using .22s for practice (if possible- .22 rounds will hopefully be cheap by then, or I'll be loading my own).

For me, I hope to have an AR15 or one of those bull-pup carbines someone posted a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (4OvDk)

131 switzerland isn't that cold

they won't let anyone in tho

my BIL worked there over a decade trying to get citizenship - no dice. the moment his contract was up, he had to get on a flight OUT

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (J6kXj)

132
Ace -- here is your problem.
God invites you in to His relationship. You are not compelledby Him. You know,,, free will.

The state has no room for anything but the state. The state compels where God welcomes.

Posted by: newguy at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (kduZC)

133 Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2013 04:39 PM (hEr50)[/i



Myth: Sunlight

Countermyth: Global Warming

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (XYSwB)

134 actually fascism is on the left hand side of the scale near communism.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (BjJOB)

135 They don't care about safety and acknowledge that the laws won't do what
they claim it will do. They just want to punish rednecks.


See also abortion. Any liberal/-tarian can make abortion legal. To force insurance companies and hospitals to cover the procedure takes malice.

(Yes, I know, I need to put down that chicken . . .)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (QTHTd)

136 It's the same mentality that's leading to all these crazy gun laws.

They don't care about safety and acknowledge that the laws won't do what they claim it will do. They just want to punish rednecks.


They will be in for a world of hurt when that pendulum swings back.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (GFM2b)

137 > If government is religion, does that mean conservatives are agnostics and libertarians atheists?



well, it certainly makes liberals 'fundamentalists'


Posted by: Jones in CO at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (8sCoq)

138 School is prison.

My 40th H.S. reunion is coming up and I mentioned to a old friend that I would kind of like to go. He responds:

"If I liked any of them, we would have kept in touch."

Yes. No desire to attend now.


Posted by: Al at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (V70Uh)

139 So who is the "far right" there?
Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 04:58 PM (53z96)

Santorum.

ducks

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:01 PM (FsUAO)

140
You got Government in my Relogion!

You got Religion in my Government!

Two great institutions that taste shitty together!

Posted by: Jaws at March 20, 2013 05:01 PM (4I3Uo)

141 You know, some of us don't join religions because we actually don't want to have strange devotional rituals and forbiddances imposed on us.

If you don't join us, that just makes you a heretic. And government has the duty to protect the faithful.

Posted by: The Holy Federal Church at March 20, 2013 05:01 PM (j3uk1)

142
Don't forget the leftist cult religious institution of "charity" which the rest of us call taxes and confiscation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 20, 2013 05:01 PM (IY7Ir)

143 Heh.

http://tinyurl.com/cgp5dbl

***

Yeah, that's great. His Wholiness Pope Obama hoisted by the environmental regulation petard.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 20, 2013 05:02 PM (Hx5uv)

144 The E-cig people forgot to pay the jizya.

Posted by: Voluble at March 20, 2013 05:02 PM (qYvEa)

145 Well I'm not saying I don't understand how fragrances can irritate people with severe allergies etc. But, there has to be a happy medium between marinating in fragrance and an office environment that smells like month old moldy cheese and sweaty jock straps.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 05:02 PM (RZ8pf)

146 Please remember that we are imposing these quasi-religious rituals on you for your own good! There is nothing personal in our rigorous examination of every aspect of your entire life, it is just good government in action!

Of course, we expect reasonable people to be eager to pay their "fair" share of the cost to implement this scrutiny, unless of course, they are members of a traditionally Democrat voting block.

Posted by: Barky Ochooma I at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (Cnqmv)

147
Ace, it's time to put this quote at the top:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may
be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than
under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes
sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for
our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (lbiWb)

148 The far left and the far right ARE exactly the same sometimes. Smiley face fascism at its best (worst).

First of all, "Mormon" does not equal "far right" in any measurable way.

Secondly, I don't know about all of Utah, but in suburbs of SLC you can get alcoholic drinks in restaurants, no fuss.

The political spectrum is *at least* a 3D map of space, not a line. Some people lump Communitarians and Libertarians together, and that dog just runs in circles and bites its tail.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (bxiXv)

149 Liberals = Fundamentalists: They will force you into their religion like it or not
Conservatives = Deists: Government exists, not sure how little of govt action is possible
Libertarians = Agnostics: Does/Should government exist? Not sure
Anarchists = Atheists: Government doesn't exist

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (FsUAO)

150 I still have trouble resolving the years long fight to get smoking banned and cigarettes eliminated only to have marijuana legalized. Yeah, don't go telling me the "smoke" is different and that people who smoke marijuana don't do the long term damage to themselves that cigarettes do. I'm not buying it. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 04:43 PM (RZ8pf)___________It is hypocritical. But the effects aren't anwyehre close to the same. Nobody smokes 2 packs a day of pot. Well outside of Snoop Dogg anyway.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 04:51 PM (HDgX3)


--------------------------------------------------


I have a disdain for smoking nazis.

Posted by: Soona at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (uzR7E)

151 Even the soviets weren't this zealous.

Posted by: Ook? at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (OQpzc)

152 and an office environment that smells like month old moldy cheese and sweaty jock straps.

You work here too?!?

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (QupBk)

153 The only perfumes that bother me use synthetic scents....I get horrible throwuppy headaches

Posted by: phoenixgirl, commenter at the best conservative blog at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (iJWQn)

154 I've come to the conclusion that most teachers are
people that simply can not function in the real world, so they stay in
school where it's safe. This goes double for collage professors.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016


My kid came home from school and said some children were talking in class and she told them to be quiet because they were driving her insane. Can you imagine someone in an office setting acting like that?

Now for some entertainment on the subject...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ9s_lSRJ3A

Posted by: Dang at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (R18D0)

155 Axe? pfft kids today have it easy.

Try sitting next to some brothers who played basketball all morning and covered their odor with Brut.

We called it Brutal of course.

Posted by: polynikes at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (m2CN7)

156 The far left and the far right ARE exactly the same sometimes. Smiley face fascism at its best (worst).Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 04:54 PM (8wqqE) ______________Yep. It's a circle. Go far enough left you end up on the right and vice versa.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 04:57 PM (HDgX3)

Depends on how you structure the continium. The left/right dynamic actually comes from european parliments where the commies sat on the right, regular politicians in the middle, and fascists on the right. It really is meaningless.
If one were to construct the continium from left to right on the metric of approach of government to problems (which makes the most sense) we'd see it as Commies-Fascists-Conservatives-Libertarians or by party and issue Commies-socialists-religious right-economic right-libertarians-anarchists(I guess). The overlap you notice is people like Huckabee and the Utah legislature both believe the government has a moral cause to protect like our earstwhile socialists. That is the overlap.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (t06LC)

157 Probably Switzerland

Can I get a free first tier nation that doesn't get quite so cold?Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:56 PM (4OvDk)


Every household has a gun and a "get of my lawn" attitude. Not a bad blueprint for Moronotopia. . . or Alextopia, for that matter.

Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (8wqqE)

158 But, there has to be a happy medium between marinating in fragrance and an office environment that smells like month old moldy cheese and sweaty jock straps.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 05:02 PM (RZ8pf)


Soap?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (bxiXv)

159 128 Jess 1,

Jess it's me...you know i think that is absolute bullshit and agree with you, BUT you can do pretty much whatever you want in most of Africa until the locals kill you....

I am *not* a neo-anarchist or saying get on nanny Bloomby's jock or you want Somalia....

I assure you if you figure out way to get materials for money in Africa with proper security they are not gonna sierra club your ass though

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:05 PM (LRFds)

160 The proper response is Fuck you. Put me in jail. I could use the free medical and dental. See what that does to your commie bottom line.

Posted by: Ook? at March 20, 2013 05:05 PM (OQpzc)

161 @144 !
"I spat out a mouthful of Schaefer's on the bar."

Posted by: Thorvald drinking good Scotch in broad daylight at March 20, 2013 05:05 PM (1V6Pv)

162 If we don't drag these "lawmakers" out into the streets and hang them the perception will be that it is OK to act like a monarch.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 20, 2013 05:05 PM (+paCV)

163 @145
There was some 19th century English fellow cited recently by John Derbyshire and elsewhere, who noted the gap between what the law permits and what decency demands. When that gap disappears all that remains is punctilious legalism and microscopically detailed rules on everything. It is the end of civil society, and that's where we are now.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 05:05 PM (j3uk1)

164 O/T

Ear gages have to be the most hideous current fad. I'm looking at a 20 something girl with blue hair, pierced nose, and quarter sized gages in her ears.

Posted by: L, elle at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (nla83)

165 Some of this is related to hatred of boys and masculinity.

Posted by: Baldy at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (opS9C)

166 jizya sounds dirty.

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (QupBk)

167 If the Swiss allowed immigration I'd be there in a second. For the skiing alone. The freedom would be a nice bonus.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (HDgX3)

168 That may be our best point of attack on liberals.

Convince everyone what they practice is a religion and then we'll describe it, circumscribe it and then proscribe it.

Just like they've done to Christianity.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (Kpn/z)

169 Well I'm not saying I don't understand how fragrances can irritate people with severe allergies etc. But, there has to be a happy medium between marinating in fragrance and an office environment that smells like month old moldy cheese and sweaty jock straps.

Yes, but that would require all persons involved to be reasonable. If even one person is not, the whole thing breaks down.

Yes, the way it should work is that people shouldn't come in smelling as though they bathed in cologne, and people who are sensitive to it should let that politely be known.

The way it does work, though, is that someone (either side) gets a bug up their butt, and Demands A Solution! from HR. HR says, "D*mn it, we have better things to do. Okay, fine, all fragrances are banned."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (4OvDk)

170
In one of Chesterton's books he imagines a Man from Mars looking down on Earth with a vision not clouded by preconceived notions, who is therefore able to see clearly how much of what we take for granted is absurd. The Man from Mars doesn't see some human activity called "religion" and other human activities called "government" and distinguish them a priori; he judges them each according to what's actually going on.

If the Man from Mars looked down on the current state of liberalism, he would see a ritualistic irrational religion that worships a Sun God (Obama), makes certain words taboo (you know what they are), puts certain people under the ban (gun owners), and engages in useless repetitive rituals (recycling) and human sacrifice (abortion).

Posted by: The Regular Guy at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (qHCyt)

171 and an office environment that smells like month old moldy cheese and sweaty jock straps.

Get the HVAC fixed and the carpet cleaned.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (/kI1Q)

172 Damn weiner sock

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:07 PM (t06LC)

173 I'm looking at a 20 something girl with blue hair, pierced nose, and quarter sized gages in her ears.

They're handles. If you get my drift.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 05:07 PM (j3uk1)

174 131 Black orchid,

correct...harder than hell to get in...you can be left alone but you better have a nice million or so in the bank...

Canada is less free than Swiss land but also only costs ~600G to hop in line...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:07 PM (LRFds)

175
"BUT you can do pretty much whatever you want in most of Africa until the locals kill you...."
Unless, of course, one is the head of State, which means... pretty much the same thing happens.
Sure, I know, but the whole "Somalia = libertarian" thing justs chafes my -

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (lbiWb)

176 11 Liberalism is the grey goo of social construction.
Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2013 04:42 PM (I2LwF)

What a bizarre and fascinating analogy. You could also think of a liberal as a "amplifier host." They are infected with otherwise ridiculous ideas that most people would not be interested in advancing. But they then advocate them with such ferocity that they infect otherwise immune (or rational) people who would normally have a higher tolerance against infection.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (q177U)

177 If the Swiss allowed immigration I'd be there in a second. For the skiing alone. The freedom would be a nice bonus.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (HDgX3)

I'd be in it for the Swissettes (if I wasn't married)

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (t06LC)

178 Anarchists = Atheists: Government doesn't exist

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (FsUAO)


Ehh, philosophically Anarchy barely exists now. The term has been taken over by Black Bloc Communists.

The thought that an Anarchist (someone who believes in Absolute Personal Responsibility) would cover their face and throw rocks at other people's property...

Then again, "inflammable' means "flammable," so there you go.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (bxiXv)

179 Depends on how you structure the continium. The left/right dynamic actually comes from european parliments where the commies sat on the right, regular politicians in the middle, and fascists on the right. It really is meaningless. If one were to construct the continium from left to right on the metric of approach of government to problems (which makes the most sense) we'd see it as Commies-Fascists-Conservatives-Libertarians or by party and issue Commies-socialists-religious right-economic right-libertarians-anarchists(I guess). The overlap you notice is people like Huckabee and the Utah legislature both believe the government has a moral cause to protect like our earstwhile socialists. That is the overlap.


----------------------------------------


Beck's linear chart comes closest to reality.

Posted by: Soona at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (uzR7E)

180 59
Remember when we were kids and would so often retort, "It's a free country!".
I said that to my kids the other day and then had to think about it.
I hope they can always say it.
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 20, 2013 04:49 PM (J+V/o)


If anybody said that to me today I think I would punch them.

Posted by: rickl at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (zoehZ)

181 Oh, I fucking love this:

"CVS
employees will have to reveal their body weight, body fat and other
medical information or pay higher insurance premiums. The company said
in a statement the move is designed to help colleagues become more
active to improve their health."

How do you like your fucking Obamacare now, fatty?

How do you like your Obama now?

Oh so very, very delicious!

But, at least it's "free" right, shithead?

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (VjL9S)

182 Thanks Eaton

Posted by: Truman North and his shiny new website at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (I2LwF)

183 I was on a project in an office where instead of fragrances, all food was banned. People would bring in some nasty shit for lunch, microwave it which made the entire floor stink. Multiply that by 100 worker bees on the floor and the whole place stand in the afternoon. After enough complaints, no more food was allowed. If you wanted to eat, you had to go to the building lobby.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (HDgX3)

184 Actually far Right = monarchism. That's where I've been at for the past four or five years.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (QTHTd)

185 Heathen! I cast a regulation spell at you!

Posted by: Deputy Assistant to the Deputy to the Assistant Secretary at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (RD7QR)

186 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (bxiXv)

They call themselves Anarcho-capitalists now, but the classic term is still Anarchist. They are still around on the interwebs, trust me.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (FsUAO)

187 Isn't this entire thread a Vogelin hypothesis? That because socialism has killed god doesn't mean that the part of the human condition hasn't been killed so that the socialist tries to create heaven on earth and has merely replaced him?

Has anyone read Vogelin?

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (t06LC)

188 156 Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 20, 2013 05:04 PM (t06LC)


There is no right-left- center. It's a sliding scale where on one side you have anarchy and on the other complete totalitarianism.

The ideal is to be at a point before anarchy where you have just enough government to ensure the civil society; i.e. what the founding fathers meant the US to be.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2013 05:10 PM (tqLft)

189 Anarcho-capitalists diverge greatly with the other "anarchists" in that they believe rightly that government is violence, and they want to minimize aggression.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:10 PM (FsUAO)

190 What we have today is a government without self-restraint.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 20, 2013 05:10 PM (UypUQ)

191 :::Actually far Right = monarchism. That's where I've been at for the past four or five years.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (QTHTd):::

It will be my honor to rule you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 05:10 PM (CJjw5)

192 switzerland isn't that cold they won't let anyone in tho my BIL worked there over a decade trying to get citizenship - no dice. the moment his contract was up, he had to get on a flight OUT
Posted by: BlackOrchid

***
From what I heard you have to have a certain level of wealth before you will be considered.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:10 PM (uhftQ)

193 words taboo (you know what they are), puts certain people under the ban (gun owners), and engages in useless repetitive rituals (recycling) and human sacrifice (abortion).
Posted by: The Regular Guy at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (qHCyt)

But, on Sundays, we worship an inflated pig skin.

Posted by: Ook? at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (OQpzc)

194 181 Oh so very, very delicious!

But, at least it's "free" right, shithead?
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (VjL9S)


Coming soon: Arbeit Macht FREE!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (tqLft)

195 "CVS
employees will have to reveal their body weight, body fat and other
medical information or pay higher insurance premiums. The company said
in a statement the move is designed to help colleagues become more
active to improve their health."

How do you like your fucking Obamacare now, fatty?


People have no idea of the 24/7 colonoscopy coming to their lives. And they voted for it.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (j3uk1)

196 oh yeah food smells, those suck too. Especially burned popcorn. Look distracted computer nerd don't put a bag of popcorn in the microwave and punch in the wrong time and then wander off in search of code nirvana, leaving the rest of us to smell burned popcorn for the rest of the afternoon.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (RZ8pf)

197 It will be my honor to rule you.

It will be my rule to honor you, my liege.

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (QupBk)

198 188 JJ Sefton,

The whole point was to have a sheriff that kept the powerful from devouring the powerless wholesale...

that was "us"...have a decent enough argument to convince the sheriff etc etc

now the sheriff is there to help the slothful eat the dutiful....

fucking asshole liberals.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (LRFds)

199
#181,
"employees will have to reveal their body weight, body fat and other
medical information or pay higher insurance premiums"
Even though there's no link between insurance payouts and those values listed?
We're f***ed.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:12 PM (lbiWb)

200
Yep. It's a circle. Go far enough left you end up on the right and vice versa.

Stupidest thing I've ever read. Forget "left" and "right," which distinctions don't mean a thing. They arose from the seating in the National Assembly in France, where the monarchists sat on the right. Not too relevant to us today, is it?

The diametrically opposite poles are not left and right, or liberal and conservative, because those terms have been so perverted as to be meaningless, but rather statism and individualism.

Those who assert the state's primacy over the individual (i.e., those commonly called "leftists," and which includes communists, socialists, fascists, progressives, and Democrats) are on one side, those who assert the individual's primacy over the state (i.e., those commonly called "rightists," and which includes those called "conservatives" and libertarians) are on the other.

Doubt this? Which group is more likely to agree with the quote: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state?"

The quote is from Mussolini - the progenitor of fascism (which in the 20s and 30swas highly regarded by Democrats, especially FDR).

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 20, 2013 05:12 PM (IDSI7)

201 I was in Geneva once and went to get money at an ATM. Didn't work. So I went inside to get it resolved. Everyone I dealt with had a bug up their ass. I'm not sure if it's because I was an American or I was wasting their time with my peon problems (compared to Sir Such and Such who needs to move $5M from account A to B) or a little of both. But holy shit those bankers were not fun to deal with. That's my ever lasting impression of Switzerland.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:12 PM (HDgX3)

202 I was on a project in an office where instead of fragrances, all food was banned. People would bring in some nasty shit for lunch, microwave it which made the entire floor stink. Multiply that by 100 worker bees on the floor and the whole place stand in the afternoon. After enough complaints, no more food was allowed. If you wanted to eat, you had to go to the building lobby.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
***

I worked at a place where someone over nuked some squid or octopus. Stank up the whole two story building.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:13 PM (uhftQ)

203 Well, Jeff, if you can carve out Boulder County as your fief and keep the rest of Colorado at bay, and don't let the local hipsters and potheads vote...

...I could live with that. I could.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:13 PM (QTHTd)

204 and people who are sensitive to it should let that politely be known.


Sensitive. Lol.

My dad has had to be taken to the ER due to reactions from the old cologne-soaked ladies at his church. His lungs seize up. Unlike Axe oxygen is necessary for human health.

If you push someone and they require treatment in the ER, that's assault (if they die, it's manslaughter). If you use chemicals that send someone to the ER, that's SHUT UP YOU WHINY ANHEDONIAC PANSY WE HAVE RIGHTS!

(Meanwhile, if you take your vapourless e-cig to school/office/church...)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 05:13 PM (/kI1Q)

205 Fascists make the trains run on time, especially the ones to the camps.

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 05:13 PM (QupBk)

206 @164 I know, right?
They don't seem even to get that their earlobe fashion suggests some more bizarre self-mutilation, the pierced nasal septum, for example. (Although, truth be told, certain pig bones can be quite elegant in the right septum.)
Unless they're obviously protein-deficient, I expect they eat cats and rodents as well. Or worse.

Posted by: Thorvald drinking good Scotch in broad daylight at March 20, 2013 05:13 PM (1V6Pv)

207 Ban a legal action because it might appear to promote the legal action. Can we apply that to guys doing guys?

Posted by: Whatev at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (A7Wh1)

208 Then again, "inflammable' means "flammable," so there you go.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:08 PM (bxiXv)

I love that word. It is a word that means, "Not just flammable, but mother fucking flammable." We need more words like that.

Posted by: Ook? at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (OQpzc)

209 ::::It will be my rule to honor you, my liege.
Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 05:11 PM (QupBk) ::::

Attention, future Death's Head Legionnaires:

THIS is how you curry favor with your despot.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (CJjw5)

210
From what I heard you have to have a certain level of wealth before you will be considered.

How about willingness to mow lawns and hang around the Home Depot parking lot? That's what we gun for here in California.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (IDSI7)

211 Oh, I've been in the office where someone microwaved some elderly fish he'd caught. The whole place stank like Satan's cock all afternoon.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (QTHTd)

212 Ban a legal action because it might appear to promote the legal action.

Shit, I can't even top that.

Posted by: The Red Queen at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (j3uk1)

213 Indouchable?

Posted by: toby928© sips the sweet tea of despair at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (QupBk)

214 Ruger 10/22 aftermarket.

http://tinyurl.com/d4ys55f

Posted by: Daybrother at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (+paCV)

215
Amen, Brother Ace.

Amen.

Posted by: Some1 at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (cSlKk)

216 Mr moo moo

Me thinks you encounter these types of problems where ever you go

Posted by: phoenixgirl, commenter at the best conservative blog at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (iJWQn)

217 Yes, but that would require all persons involved to be reasonable. If even one person is not, the whole thing breaks down. Yes, the way it should work is that people shouldn't come in smelling as though they bathed in cologne, and people who are sensitive to it should let that politely be known. The way it does work, though, is that someone (either side) gets a bug up their butt, and Demands A Solution! from HR. HR says, "D*mn it, we have better things to do. Okay, fine, all fragrances are banned."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (4OvDk)


-------------------------------------------


That's the way all corporations operate. If one person screws up, instead of disciplining that person, the whole company has to pay the price.

Happened with earphones/nodes. One person in another department didn't hear the fire alarm because she had her music turned up too high. So the company demanded that the wires be cut on one earpiece so that only one ear will be recieving any audio. And yes, the wires HAVE to be cut.

Posted by: Soona at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (uzR7E)

218 Rock 'n roll is my religion and my law!

Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (lG3E4)

219 >>>Has anyone read Vogelin?


Yeah. His poetry sucks.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (hEr50)

220 Boulder County's even got a palace for you:
http://www.colorado-for-free.com/CO_images/NCAR1.jpg

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:15 PM (QTHTd)

221 My homo high school put up a list of everyone who got over 600 on the verbal portion of the SAT and then subsequently took it down to not hurt everyone else's self-esteem in the 80's. So that kind of shit isn't new. Of course, nobody batted an eye when all the seniors carried water pistols in class either, so it isn't like teachers were totally gay like they are now.

Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (E55AK)

222 It is a word that means, "Not just flammable, but mother fucking flammable." We need more words like that.

I'm inirritable.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (j3uk1)

223 People would bring in some nasty shit for lunch, microwave it which made the entire floor stink.

I would make burned microwave popcorn a fireable offense.

People have no idea of the 24/7 colonoscopy coming to their lives.

Free preventative care! Unless they find something while they're in there, then it's diagnostic care and you pay full price.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (/kI1Q)

224 Attention, future Death's Head Legionnaires:



THIS is how you curry favor with your despot.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (CJjw5



How about if I just offer to serve you cocktails?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (UOM48)

225 Because they believe in no god, and have attained power over others, they have stylized themselves a deity.

The Pharaohs, The Caesars... history repeats itself.

And the center does not hold.

Posted by: SGT. York at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (H1IKD)

226 210 Jay Guevera,

Si Si

it never fails to amuse me when my foreign contacts lecture us on "needing to take care of the mexicans" given their own nation's migration laws...

I used to be laid back on illegal immigration until I figured out the international left is knowingly using it to destroy the US

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (LRFds)

227 Posted by: RoyalOil at March 20, 2013 05:09 PM (VjL9S)

If somebody else is paying for my medical care, then they should have some say in how I consume that care.

That's why one of the roots of our current health-care evil is health-care paid for by employers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (3Mkrp)

228 Moore got lucky and handled this situation in a clear and level headed
manner. I doubt many of us would remain so calm in face of armed
officers in our home and threats to our children. Also, he was
fortunate in his credentials which emphasized the unreasonable actions
of law enforcement. Think how easily another parent without those
credentials would have been portrayed as reckless and irresponsible.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (L4CWX)

229
AllenG,

Just to clarify, the SW MP 15-22 is indeeda dedicated .22lr platform - not 5.56. Mossberg and Colt also make versions of this, but not as well.

IMO, way more fun than a 10/22, with adjustable length stocks for the wimmenz and chirrunz, goodpeep sights for learning irons,and an excellent training analog for the real deal that will invariably sneak into youe collection someday.

Posted by: Jaws at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (4I3Uo)

230 RE: CVS

Is this new? I remember my dad got a new job sometime in the 90s. Before he was hired though he had to get a chest x-ray to verify he wasn't a smoker. Reason was insurance. The company charged employees who smoked a portion of the health insurance premium.

I'm not sure what's so wrong with making people who are obese or smoke or like to jump out of airplanes on the weekends more for health insurance. Bad drivers pay more for car insurance. Same principle.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:17 PM (HDgX3)

231 referring to "mysteries, dogmas and catechisms" when referencing cigarettes seems weird

Posted by: JDP at March 20, 2013 05:17 PM (60GaT)

232 On the CVS thing... I'm torn.

One of the things BCBSTX was investigating at least ten years ago was the idea of sliding premiums for group plans.

Right now the way a group plan works, the same premium applies to everyone. So people who really are major health-risks are subsidized by the people who are healthy. They were looking at a way to change that- if they could get the health data.

That proved problematic for a variety of reasons; so they changed it to "we'll give the whole company a cut on the premiums if you can get X% of your workforce signed up for our wellness program."

Now, I'm not sure how widespread that was, but this seems like a logical extension of that- While getting the specific health data is problematic, getting data on who has enrolled in a benefit is less so. So their insurance plan may be offering a lower rate for people on the wellness plan (this one administered by WebMD, I think), and a higher rate for people who are not.

Now, if I had been CVS, I would have advertised the higher premium as "the premium", and said that people who volunteered to enroll in the wellness program would get a discount. Instead, they advertised the lower premium as "the premium" and advertised the higher rate as "a penalty."

Almost like they'd been taking communications lessons from GOP strategists.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 05:17 PM (4OvDk)

233 How about willingness to mow lawns and hang around the Home Depot parking lot? That's what we gun for here in California.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
***

About the same here in AZ till they self deported due to lack of jobs.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:17 PM (uhftQ)

234 Gee howdy, Trey Gowdy took down that ICE douche. Thing of beauty.

Trey has gotten a little makeover, I see. Better haircut, and cooler glasses.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 05:18 PM (UOM48)

235 An ultra-liberal I know posted something to the effect that Christians shouldn't complain about helping poor people since Jesus says that what we should do. I pointed out that Christ said that we should give out of charity and desire to do good deeds. He didn't say that the government should come and forcibly take our money and give it to the poor. For some reason, I never heard back.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 20, 2013 05:18 PM (1hekh)

236 :::How about if I just offer to serve you cocktails?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 05:16 PM (UOM4 :::

Remove your brassiere and report to the Pleasure Battalion Supply Sergeant. She will issue you your SPL uniform. Yes, that means "Slave Princess Leia."

Dismissed.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 05:18 PM (CJjw5)

237 That's what we gun for here in California.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (IDSI7)

Lots of hookers too. Or at least that was the case when I lived in NorCal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2013 05:18 PM (3Mkrp)

238 I used to be laid back on illegal immigration until I figured out the international left is knowingly using it to destroy the US


Congratulations. You've identified the Golden Thread that runs through all of the superficially diverse causes of the Left.

Bill Ayres smiles down upon you.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (8ZskC)

239 229 Jaws,

of course I'd build an AR-15 with a multi-cal lower and convert an upper to .22LR

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (LRFds)

240
"I'm not sure what's so wrong with making people who are obese or smoke or like to jump out of airplanes on the weekends more for health insurance. "
Because "it's counterproductive" isn't enough?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (lbiWb)

241 @229

Only thing better is a converted dedicated .22 Ar.
Yeah, I built one of those. Currently set up as a M4gery with Knights rail. More expensive though as its an actual .223 with a different barrel and bolt.

You could always get a regular AR and .22 kit seeing as a .223 barrel is .22 diameter.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (t06LC)

242 I think we should ban the hand motion of smoking a cigarette.

Posted by: Whatev at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (A7Wh1)

243
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:03 PM (bxiXv)

Oh, I agree 100%. I'm Mormon and don't consider myself right wing. But the bill to end the "Zion curtain" (which deals with mixed drinks, not plain beer or wine, I should have specified) was killed by Lewis' "moral busybodies" in the Utah legislature, and they just happen to be conservative Mormons. I just found it ironic, because I suspect that Bloomberg would be horrified to find himself in the same category as a bunch of conservative Utah politicians, yet there he is.

Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (8wqqE)

244 I just went into a church to have a conversation about religion, but everyone there had a bug up his ass for some reason. . . .

Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (+iA5G)

245 Yes, that means "Slave Princess Leia."

Just be sure you get the Carrie Fisher look from the 1980s, not 2013.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (j3uk1)

246 This is somewhat related. Almighty govrnment in California has the power to bend the rules of time and space. Particularly time.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/d8h6bfy

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (Hx5uv)

247
Remove your brassiere and report to the Pleasure
Battalion Supply Sergeant. She will issue you your SPL uniform. Yes,
that means "Slave Princess Leia."



Dismissed.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 20, 2013 05:18 PM (CJjw5


I thought that uniform was reserved for AtC?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (UOM48)

248 239 229 Jaws,of course I'd build an AR-15 with a multi-cal lower and convert an upper to .22LR
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (LRFds)

Damn sven, we think alike.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:20 PM (t06LC)

249 238 Cicero,

in my past life consulting on armor tables for a game company prior to 9/11 I was rather tolerant of the leftoids...

but I noticed that everything that they loved and inveighed invariably hurt industry and liberty...

then one day I stopped being so tolerant...it was when they were more concerned for "the real victims of 9/11" than they were on punishing it.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (LRFds)

250 I think we should ban the hand motion of smoking a cigarette.

***

And peace signs because they look like you're holding a cigarette.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (Hx5uv)

251 Man, this primrose path looks beeeautiful.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (Lq5WC)

252 Speaking of health care, my kid is sick and I take him to the doctor to find out he has an infection. The nurse practitioner tells me she isn't going to test for strep because she would give him the same antibiotics so it doesn't make any difference.Which is fine I guess, but it seemed more a cost cutting measure than anything to do with finding out what was wrong with him. If he had strep, it could lead to complications that I should be looking out for, maybe it would have been nice to know for sure.


Of course seeing an actual doctor is now practically impossible.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (RZ8pf)

253 Man, I am super-tired and super-bored.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (UypUQ)

254 Ear gages have to be the most hideous current fad. I'm looking at a 20 something girl with blue hair, pierced nose, and quarter sized gages in her ears.
Posted by: L, elle at March 20, 2013 05:06 PM (nla83)




I keep waiting for the day that it is pronounced "cool" to be living in caves again.

And, I will laugh when they try to start a fire.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (XYSwB)

255 Just be sure you get the Carrie Fisher look from the 1980s, not 2013.


The recent sizes provide lots of extra room to carry your stuff.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (8ZskC)

256 soon every one and everyplace will have a google map

information and connectivity will infect every cell of every nook and cranny

its making people crazy (just my Thought of the Day)

Posted by: Eaton Cox at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (q177U)

257 And Jesus said: Turn your ploughshares into swords, and turn them on the innocent to extract their Fair Share so that government fat cats have secure jobs.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (FsUAO)

258 I say buy the 10/22 AND an AR-15 if you can swing it. The more firearms you have the better.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (uhftQ)

259 The whole place stank like Satan's cock all afternoon.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 20, 2013 05:14 PM (QTHTd)

And I presume you've had a "personal" experience of this aroma?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (Kpn/z)

260 248 Jolly Roger,

part of why I finally caved on the AR platform recently was the multi-cal potential...

that and wife NEEDING a carbine to practice with...now I am gonna build another lower into a pistol caliber carbine

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (LRFds)

261 Solzhenitsyn observed how in Stalin's USSR, the old rituals of the Russian Orthodox Church had essentially been mirrored and co-opted by secular State equivalents, right down the line in the smallest detail.

It is one of the oldest habits of the Left.

Voltaire said that mankind would not be free until the last king had been strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

We still have what are, for all intents and purposes, kings. They're just not called that in the secular State apparatus. And we still have what are, for all intents and purposes, priests. They're just not called that in the secular State apparatus.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (gqT4g)

262 I thought that uniform was reserved for AtC?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (UOM4

Too short.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (3Mkrp)

263 240

"I'm not sure what's so wrong with making people who are obese or
smoke or like to jump out of airplanes on the weekends more for health
insurance. "
Because "it's counterproductive" isn't enough?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:19 PM (lbiWb)

____________
What's counter productive about it? You weigh 400 lbs and smoke 3 packs a day, you pay $200 a month. I weigh 180 and don't smoke, I pay $100. One of 2 things happens:
1. You lose weight and stop smoking, and save $100 a month
2. You don't change, I save money by not having to subsidize your poor choices.
Win win.
.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:23 PM (HDgX3)

264 Unrelated but Jimmy Fallon is going to take over the Tonight Show. Presumably his band -- The Roots -- will move with him.

The Roots is led by QuestLove -- an open Communist and Afrocentric black nationalist.

And he gets a starring role on TV every night.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 20, 2013 05:23 PM (ZPrif)

265 If you push someone and they require treatment in the ER, that's assault (if they die, it's manslaughter). If you use chemicals that send someone to the ER, that's SHUT UP YOU WHINY ANHEDONIAC PANSY WE HAVE RIGHTS!

Yeah, and I refuse to stop eating peanuts, too.

Get over it.

If you're that allergic to something, it's your job to avoid it. I'm sorry that that sucks, but it's true. I refuse to live my life catering to the people around me who might be allergic to what I eat, wear, whatever.

I'll promise not to overuse the cologne (actually I don't normally use any), because that's tacky. I don't promise not to use any, because I have the right to use a legal product in a responsible way.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 05:23 PM (4OvDk)

266 258 I say buy the 10/22 AND an AR-15 if you can swing it. The more firearms you have the better.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:22 PM (uhftQ)

Yea verily, this is best. But what you mean is 15 ARs. 15 is 14 is 13...is 1 is none. Have to plan for malfunctions.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:23 PM (t06LC)

267 It insults the dignity of our tireless leaders that after they ban something for your own good you pretend to continue doing it with something else. Its like a slap in the face.

Posted by: Whatev at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (A7Wh1)

268
@4: "Two weapons against this are Sunlight and Ridicule."

Oh, sure. NOW you tell me!

Posted by: Zombie Mohammed Atta at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (FsqHK)

269
"of course I'd build an AR-15 with a multi-cal lower and convert an upper to .22LR"

You can pay (what was) $400 for the Smith or (at least) $400 for a dedicated .22lr top end to pin onto your business carbine. I chose the former because Full Gun / less dinking around.

The bolt/BCG kits are ok at $120ish, but I've also seen them become craptastic pains in the arse too.

Posted by: Jaws at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (4I3Uo)

270 Thou art not mortal! Thou art not mortal!

Posted by: Mainstream Media to their Lord and Savior Obama at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (Hx5uv)

271 What I never got about Axe is, Axe what?

Posted by: Toure at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (8ZskC)

272 Test

nurse


Test over.

Checking to see if the green box shows up.


Posted by: Al at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (V70Uh)

273 Of course seeing an actual doctor is now practically impossible.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 05:21 PM (RZ8pf)

_____
You have to ask and often insist on seeing a doctor. My kids' doctor's office plays this game with me too. Oh such and such NP or PA is available. I say, that's great, I'd like to see Dr. So and So. If you're going to charge me $140 a visit, I sure as fuck want to see someone with an MD after their name. And magically, a slot opens up on the Dr's schedule.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2013 05:24 PM (HDgX3)

274 The biggest reason there's a problem with the "do this or we charge more for your insurance" trend in corporate medical insurance is that the reasons are at least as political as they are medical.

Somehow the actuaries that used to Rule the World either left or were shouted down.

And that's even *before* you take "junk science" into account.

Some people also don't want to get even close to the corner where race, sexual habits or other factors get insurance adjustments for office-workers health benefits.

In theory, I think actuarial adjustments are great, except that it seems that's not what we're actually talking about.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 20, 2013 05:25 PM (bxiXv)

275 "employees will have to reveal their body weight, body fat and other
medical information or pay higher insurance premiums"



I smell a class action...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2013 05:25 PM (XYSwB)

276 I would be OK with the whole "tell us about your life and we'll tell you what you have to pay" if it was more in depth than smoking or obesity. For example, what about the people who are adreniline junkies, always bungee jumping or stuff like that. Or the older guys who think they are still college athletes and end up injuring themselves over and over. Or, the women who aren't obese, but rather they are anorexic or bulimic. I can go on, but I won't. Suffice it to say, we've made it OK to say certain groups have to pay more without necessarily basing that on what groups (illegals using the ER as a doctor's office) are actually spending the most health care dollars.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 20, 2013 05:25 PM (RZ8pf)

277 Netanyahu quipped, "It sounds like a very incestuous relationship,"

Zing. That officially makes it a bibi destroys day. He keeps this up, it will be as long as tfg is over there.

Posted by: bibi's boobs destroy at March 20, 2013 05:26 PM (x57Uq)

278 Anybody who dies from Axe exposure is just the weakest of the herd who deserves to be culled.

Evolution in action.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 20, 2013 05:26 PM (ZPrif)

279 @260
Excellent. Be sure to pick a hammer that can withstand the blowback operation. I saw a guy that had a Rock River two stage that shattered due to the fact it couldn't take the additional stress of the mechanism.

Someone used to sell a .45 Ar kit, although I forgot who.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:26 PM (t06LC)

280 263 Mr Moo Moo,

the most moonbatfuck retarded person I know weighs more than me and does drugs...

I have this crazy notion about "leave me the fuck be and get free market forces back into health and take your metaphorical dick out of my ass"

*thanks*

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:26 PM (LRFds)

281 You have to ask and often insist on seeing a doctor. My kids' doctor's
office plays this game with me too. Oh such and such NP or PA is
available. I say, that's great, I'd like to see Dr. So and So. If you're
going to charge me $140 a visit, I sure as fuck want to see someone
with an MD after their name. And magically, a slot opens up on the Dr's
schedule.



PRO TIP: It helps a lot if you add, "I have guns."

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 05:26 PM (8ZskC)

282 And peace signs because they look like you're holding a cigarette.


What about when you make the peace sign look like you are licking va jay jay?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2013 05:27 PM (45vNz)

283 Group insurance plans are inherently socialist.

If you are obese or a smoker, prepare to be ostracized.


Posted by: Al at March 20, 2013 05:27 PM (V70Uh)

284 I ran across a link yesterday that said already some docs are giving "group" appointments to patients with the same ailments. Some groups have as many as twelve patients (!!!). The hell?

No damned way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2013 05:27 PM (UOM48)

285 "CVS
employees will have to reveal their body weight, body fat and other

medical information or pay higher insurance premiums. The company said

in a statement the move is designed to help colleagues become more

active to improve their health."

Wouldn't carrots work better in this situation? Give three extra days of vacation for all those who pass a bi-annual fitness exam. Make it a "prize".

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 20, 2013 05:28 PM (UypUQ)

286
#263,
What's counter productive about it?
The goal is to reduce insurance payouts - so who costs less, the one who croaks @ 60 or 90?
(note that almost 80% of the Medi payouts go to 20% of the enrollees, and that "obesity" has become the new bogyman. At 6' 185 a 34" waist I'm "obese" these days...)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:28 PM (lbiWb)

287 PRO TIP: It helps a lot if you add, "I have guns."

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at March 20, 2013 05:26 PM (8ZskC)

Don't worry...they'll be asking soon enough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2013 05:29 PM (3Mkrp)

288 269 Jaws,

the price is wobbly RIGHT NOW because of barry....

I used to post "budget AR-15 builds" in the Sunday ONT in happier times...

I will strive to do at least one a month...

the 170 buck mark up right now on stripped lowers has me in a rage...

not at the businessman he is just doing what free markets do...

I'd like to kick DiFi in her dick.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:29 PM (LRFds)

289 At 6' 185 a 34" waist I'm "obese" these days...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 20, 2013 05:28 PM (lbiWb)

Wow...what a fat fuck.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2013 05:29 PM (3Mkrp)

290 The Roots is led by QuestLove -- an open Communist and Afrocentric black nationalist.

And he gets a starring role on TV every night.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 20, 2013 05:23 PM (ZPrif)


After their slam against Michelle Bachmann, they are golden. Forget it, Jake, it's Hollywoodtown.

Posted by: LizLem at March 20, 2013 05:30 PM (8wqqE)

291 @269

I went with the spikes dedicated barrel/bolt instead of the kit. I used to shoot it often because it was identical to the real ar but shot cheaper ammo. At least .22 used to be cheaper...

I can shoot 7.62x54r cheaper now

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:30 PM (t06LC)

292 BTW I once treated a guy that shot himself in the leg with the SW M & P 15/22. Through and through the bone. Apparently it had a light trigger.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 20, 2013 05:31 PM (+paCV)

293 "Speaking of health care, my kid is sick and I take him to the doctor to
find out he has an infection. The nurse practitioner tells me she isn't
going to test for strep because she would give him the same antibiotics
so it doesn't make any difference."

Later in life, your kid will then end up dying of a hospital acquired infection, an antibiotic resistant superbug which got that way because of ignorant "efficiency-based" overprescribing of antibiotics just like what you describe here.


Make no mistake. That is a massive problem and it is getting worse almost every single day. We're rapidly reverting from the 21st century to the 19th in terms of infection control.


"Of course seeing an actual doctor is now practically impossible."

Give it a few more years of Obamacare. We'll be telling campfire stories about how we once saw a Doctor. At a considerable distance down a hallway. On their way to provide medical care to one of The Special People who have that privilege.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 20, 2013 05:31 PM (gqT4g)

294 279 Jolly Roger,

saw a couple of places selling 'em in the shotgun news...

a .45APC upper may be where I wind up going...

I kind of dug the grease gun...

add in the innate subsonic status of the .45apc and if you pay the NAF fee you have a TRULY silent(almost) carbine

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:32 PM (LRFds)

295 Yea verily, this is best. But what you mean is 15 ARs. 15 is 14 is 13...is 1 is none. Have to plan for malfunctions.
Posted by: Jollyroger
***

Right now the challenge is finding one of either that isn't at ONG prices.
I'm partial to the AK-47 or (AKM-S)myself tho.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:32 PM (uhftQ)

296 291 JollyRoger,

one of history's ironies is gonna be a bunch of Cold Warriors using the other teams ammo choice I think...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:32 PM (LRFds)

297 Someone asked about freedom rankings. Heritage does an annual report on the economic freedom rankings.


Since Obama came along the US has dropped to #10 on the list.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 05:33 PM (53z96)

298 If you're that allergic to something, it's your job to avoid it. I'm sorry that that sucks, but it's true. I refuse to live my life catering to the people around me who might be allergic to what I eat, wear, whatever. I'll promise not to overuse the cologne (actually I don't normally use any), because that's tacky. I don't promise not to use any, because I have the right to use a legal product in a responsible way.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 05:23 PM (4OvDk)


----------------------------------------------


TX needs to keep it's dust from blowing into OK. It plays hell with a just-washed car.

Posted by: Soona at March 20, 2013 05:33 PM (uzR7E)

299 I wish those other states would keep their pollution out of AZ. The EPA has a hard on for us over it.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 20, 2013 05:35 PM (uhftQ)

300 OT but nude thread is up, so forget you:

Ok listening to Rand talk about his immigration stuff.

The only citizenship part that exists is that people already working here would not have to leave to get in line. The same exact line that a Mexican in Mexico City would get into.

So to me Rand's plan just sounds like an expansion of the foreign work population via visas.

If that's all this is, it's not a terrible plan. I'm all for the freedom to move where you want and work where you want, as long as it doesn't confer voting and welfare privilege.

https://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=c1h85V2MoZo

Remove spaces if you want to watch.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 20, 2013 05:36 PM (FsUAO)

301 From what I understand, the ones using the most healthcare dollars are:

Women and men in their final 6 months, transplant recipients and those with HIV.

The drugs for the last two are extremely expensive and it's a multi drug cocktail for both.

The old men and women are falling apart and medicine can only do so much without massive intervention.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 20, 2013 05:36 PM (Kpn/z)

302 ' “We think it’s the right balance between safety and parental involvement,” said Kelly Hall, executive director of elementary schools and Title I.'

I taught in a Catholic elementary school years ago. Most of these ridiculous, over the top rules and zero tolerance policies have little to do with safety. They have to do with the laziness of school personnel.

Parents stopping off to visit their kids during recess. Whichever person supervising walks over to find out who it is and why they are there. Very simple.

Fear of guns and weapons leading to kids being disciplined for biting pop tarts into guns, playing guns with fingers or sticks, playing with a bubble gun. The solution to this is to give brain transplants to people too stupid to distinguish between playing and an actual threat.

And zero tolerance policies are the result of staff members who are too lazy to make a common sense decision.
meth=a problem, cough drop=not a problem.
student with real gun=a problem, student with a pop tart shaped like a gun=not a problem

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 20, 2013 05:36 PM (ERh5p)

303
Sven, I can't argue with your urge to punt that cunt.

With even a hint of good luck with the outcome of this nightmare, the AR bubble is going to pop bigtime. I hope for a good choice of Colt 69xx's on pawn shop shelves when Mr. Panicky's mortgage gets out of control. Maybe we'll see quality lowers at $79 again too. You never know.

Posted by: Jaws at March 20, 2013 05:38 PM (4I3Uo)

304 @294
I always was partial to the thought that while a 9mm may expand into .45, a .45 will never shrink to a 9.

@295
Wait for it to go back. I refuse to pay panic prices for anything. I like the AK series and really like the 74s. Ammo was really cheap too at $250 or so for 2160 rounds about a year ago.
@298
You're welcome for your little bit of Texas we let you have.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 20, 2013 05:39 PM (t06LC)

305 297
Someone asked about freedom rankings. Heritage does an annual report on the economic freedom rankings.


Since Obama came along the US has dropped to #10 on the list.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking


Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2013 05:33 PM (53z96)

--I wish more people would consult that chart before the mindless Canada-bashing. It's far from perfect here, but glass houses and all that . . .

Posted by: logprof at March 20, 2013 05:41 PM (+iA5G)

306 Actually, I'm planning for the future education of my kids. I'm going to start them out on pellet guns (because my wife insists). I'll do a bolt-action .22 for their first "real" gun, but when I get them working on other weapons, I'll want them using .22s for practice (if possible- .22 rounds will hopefully be cheap by then, or I'll be loading my own). For me, I hope to have an AR15 or one of those bull-pup carbines someone posted a couple weeks ago.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 20, 2013 04:59 PM (4OvDk)

I started my kids out at ages 8 and 10, respectively, using my black powder, cap-and-ball revolvers, one a.36 Navy and the other a Remington .44. They loved the thunderclap boom and the big cloud of smoke. I guess I'm just a very bad dad. From there, we went to the Ruger 10/22 and an old familySW K-38 Target Masterpiece, aconventional .38 Special revolver. Both of my children, now young adults,are excellent shots.

You're buying an AR-15? I honestly don't understand the attraction. I'm a former infantryman, so I'm very familiar with the platform. I'm also familiar with the propsensity of that weapon, with its tight tolerances,to jam in the field if not kept immaculately clean. My somewhat beat-up old commie surplus Yugo SKS may not be pretty, but it's absolutely reliable. I'll take Betty. You can have Veronica.

Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2013 05:41 PM (vtiE6)

307 "I taught in a Catholic elementary school years ago. Most of these
ridiculous, over the top rules and zero tolerance policies have little
to do with safety. They have to do with the laziness of school
personnel."

I personally have found that over the top rules and zero tolerance policies have to do with the ridiculously overlawyered condition of American society.

If you don't have rigid procedures for everything, you'll get sued.

If you attempt to apply common sense, which requires discriminating between minor and major problems, then Discrimination will be alleged. And there is no more heinous sin in the modern secularist state than that. So not only will you get sued, you'll also have the zampolits of the state descending upon you with a combination of overwhelming force and arbitrary decisions.

Little wonder that people opt to play it safe.


Posted by: torquewrench at March 20, 2013 05:43 PM (gqT4g)

308 one of history's ironies is gonna be a bunch of Cold Warriors using the other teams ammo choice I think...

Not exactly unprecedented: The Continental army, fighting for their traditional rights as Englishmen under a new flag, ended up armed with .69 caliber French muskets supplied by anDivine Right kingwhile fighting against a limited, constitutionalmonarchy, armed with .75 caliber muskets, which they believed was heading towards anautocracy.

Kind of a weird situation, really.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 20, 2013 05:43 PM (/ZHx6)

309 ' “We think it’s the right balance between safety and parental involvement,” said Kelly Hall, executive director of elementary schools and Title I.'

I taught in a Catholic elementary school years ago. Most of these ridiculous, over the top rules and zero tolerance policies have to do with the laziness of school personnel. None of this stuff is necessary to keep kids safe.

Parents stopping off to visit their kids during recess. Whichever person supervising walks over to find out who it is and why they are there. Very simple.

Fear of guns and weapons leading to kids being disciplined for biting pop tarts into guns, playing guns with fingers or sticks, playing with a bubble gun. The solution to this is to give brain transplants to people too stupid to distinguish between playing and an actual threat.

And zero tolerance policies are the result of staff members who are too lazy to make a common sense decision.
meth=a problem, cough drop=not a problem.
student with real gun=a problem, student with a pop tart shaped like a gun=not a problem

Bans on homemade treats? Really? How many kids per year die from food poisoning from homemade treats?

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 20, 2013 05:44 PM (ERh5p)

310 Ouch! Double posted. Sorry

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 20, 2013 05:45 PM (ERh5p)

311 306 Troyriser,

an AR-15 with quality ammo is a better weapon than most AK builds not by Finn or Israeli hands...

I resisted the urge to go back to the AR a long time, but in the end if I need a practical battle weapon with cheap easily available parts if the SHTF here in NA the AR is tops.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 20, 2013 05:45 PM (LRFds)

312 Spraying chemicals on a filthy smelly body just adds more smells... Mybe they should have a trip to a Turkish Bath?

Posted by: Baldy at March 20, 2013 05:47 PM (opS9C)

313

--I wish more people would consult that chart before the mindless
Canada-bashing. It's far from perfect here, but glass houses and all
that . . .

I may have to take off to the Great White North. It's a beauty when you go.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 20, 2013 05:51 PM (7v/wS)

314 "If you don't have rigid procedures for everything, you'll get sued."

This is true for some of the examples but not others. No one is going to sue over a pop tart gun or a kid pointing his finger as a gun.

Also, no matter how careful you are, and no matter how rigid your rules are in a building and playground with hundreds of kids, there will still be accidents and injuries, and their parents can still sue you. I doubt if those zero tolerance policies lessen the risk of lawsuits at all. Watch kids play. They're broken bones waiting to happen.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 20, 2013 05:51 PM (ERh5p)

315 Its insurance people. Its a risk based business.

If you had a couple of car accidents and 5 speeding ticktets your premium would be far greater than someone who didn't everything else being equal.

Posted by: polynikes at March 20, 2013 05:53 PM (m2CN7)

316
"BTW I once treated a guy that shot himself in the leg with the SW M P 15/22. Through and through the bone. Apparently it had a light trigger."

Yeah, a light trigger and a piece of meatware that was not programmed with several of The Rules.

Posted by: Jaws at March 20, 2013 05:56 PM (4I3Uo)

317 Agreed. I've been saying this for a long time.

I have a God already. I do not need another. A secular religion is a religion still.

Posted by: Crude at March 20, 2013 05:57 PM (N3XVc)

318 264

wasn't aware. doubt many people are, it's not like he does interviews on the show

Posted by: JDP at March 20, 2013 06:03 PM (60GaT)

319
Lots of hookers too. Or at least that was the case when I lived in NorCal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 20, 2013 05:18 PM (3Mkrp)


Gang membership a big plus for either sex.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 20, 2013 06:12 PM (IDSI7)

320 Wednesday.

Posted by: WWW at March 20, 2013 06:12 PM (cvrr4)

321 When I was in High School in the 80s, the original Polo Cologne was very popular. Maybe a little too popular. I have distinct memories of the nausea caused by hundreds of teenaged boys (all boys Catholic HS) who drenched themselves every day.

Somehow, I survived, though.

Posted by: elliot at March 20, 2013 06:53 PM (gJeT3)

322 Oh, and the old adage of "those that can, do. Those that can't, teach" is at the bottom of alot of these stupid decisions made by schools (i.e. the Pop Tart gun). When teacher A brings little Tommy to the principle's office because he chewed his PBJ sandwich into the shape of a phallus (thereby sexually assaulting his whole class) the principle can't give him a lecture on the effects of greenhouse gasses on the ozone layer, he has to make a decision.

It is beyond his/her skill set.

Posted by: elliot at March 20, 2013 06:59 PM (ULg3N)

323 The religion has a name, it is called statolatry...the worship of the state, the advocacy of a highly centralized and all-powerful national government...

Posted by: Utah at March 20, 2013 07:07 PM (toEx0)

324 134
actually fascism is on the left hand side of the scale near communism.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at March 20, 2013 05:00 PM (BjJOB)


Fascism, Naziism, Communism, etc. are all branches of the tree of Marxist idiocy. And that tree is planted nice and deep into the dung heap of feudalism.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 20, 2013 08:08 PM (gmoEG)

325 <<You know, some of us don't join religions because we actually don't want
to have strange devotional rituals and forbiddances imposed on us>>

Kinda close minded and topical don't you think champ?

You sorta pride yourself on being a pseudo intellectual and producing blogs that delve into quasi-philosophical subjects. Which are really mostly obscure fringe populist subjects dredged up from the last fifty years or so and not necessarily philosophical.

Which is fine. Your blog, your right.

But I am growing a little tired of the assault on religion masquerading as some past philosophical endeavor you've explored and deduced is a pursuit of dupes and people who like strange "rituals" they don't understand.

Religion, at least for some of us, is not only philosophically consistent, but based on faith and experience. It's not some hokey, topical pastime that is long on rhetoric or ritual and short on intellectual deductions and existential truths.

IMVHO

Posted by: Marcus at March 20, 2013 08:42 PM (nl+lr)






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