Wow: Another Colorado Legislator Goes Wild, Instrucing Rape Survivor a Gun Wouldn't Have Stopped Her Violation, No Matter What She Might Think

In. Credible.

You're a dumb little girl and you don't know what you're talking about. Why don't you stop talking, dumb little girl?

Katie Pavlich previously reporter her story. I'm going to quote some of it, but you should probably read it all.

Amanda Collins is a young rape survivor. While in college in 2007, she was raped 50 feet away from the campus police department office at the University of Nevada-Reno and was lucky to get out alive. Her attacker was James Biela, a serial rapist who raped two other women and murdered another. He attacked her at gun point in a gun free zone. At the time of the attack, Collins was in possession of a concealed weapons permit but was not in possession of her firearm due to university policies prohibiting carrying concealed weapons on campus.

...

"I was legislated into being a victim," Collins said.

Well, that's a hell of a story, and a hell of an inconvenience for the Bullets-Don't-Work-On-Criminals crowd. Fortunately, Democratic State Senator Evi Hudak was there to propagate this theory:

"Well, I just want to say statistics are not on your side, even if you had had a gun. You said that you were a martial arts student, I mean person, experience in taekwondo, and yet because this individual was so large and was able to overcome you even with your skills, and chances are that if you had had a gun, then he would have been able to get than from you and possibly use it against you," Hudak said.

Collins responded by saying, "Respectfully Senator, you weren't there...I was there, I know without a doubt in my mind at some point I would have been able to stop my attack by using my firearm. He already had a weapon of his own, he didn't need mine."

Ms. Hudak probably doesn't know what "semi-automatic" means, given that she seems unclear that a gun a projectile weapon usable at range. She seems to not understand the rapist was interested in a live girl, not a dead body, and that Collins, however, would have been quite interested in a dead rapist. As rape must be conducted at touching distance, but shooting can occur at touching distance to hundreds of yards away, I'm a bit flabbergasted by this notion that a rapist would obviously just take a gun away from a woman.

Is he going to deflect bullets with his Sith hands, too?

Dana Loesch notes that guns are used 2.1 million times a year to defend against crime, and 10% of those cases -- 210,000 per year -- are cases of women defending themselves against sexual assault.

Allah takes Hudak's "statistics" argument for what it is: A simple statement that some women are just going to have to be raped -- 210,000 women per year will have take one for the team -- for the Greater Good of disarmament.


Posted by: Ace at 06:23 PM



Comments

1 And these people claim others are waging a war on women.

But the sheep just gobble it up and, statistically, some just have to be fleeced or turned into chops for the team I guess.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at March 05, 2013 06:25 PM (8kIXE)

2 War on women.

Delicious Dana Loesch also showcased this today.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 05, 2013 06:25 PM (I2LwF)

3 what is it with libs and this statistical determinism on guns

"well x% of people shoot someone by accident...or get it turned on them..." like it's an argument-ender

Posted by: JDP at March 05, 2013 06:25 PM (60GaT)

4 Katie P. is teh hawt.

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:27 PM (53z96)

5 He attacked her at gun point in a gun free zone.

That's unpossible!

Posted by: Every knee-jerk lefty fuckknob ever at March 05, 2013 06:27 PM (SU3pu)

6 England thanks you.

Posted by: pep at March 05, 2013 06:28 PM (6TB1Z)

7 There is no reasoning with these people. Prepare for a real fight because that's what we're headed for.

Posted by: Andrew at March 05, 2013 06:28 PM (HS3dy)

8 So because not every single rape can be stopped with a gun, no rape should ever be stopped with a gun.

#liberallogic

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 05, 2013 06:28 PM (HDgX3)

9 Gun grabbers are stupid. Not only that but they are in violation of the Constitution. We MUST pass laws making it a felony to propose any law that infringes on the second amendment.

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:28 PM (53z96)

10 Pot legalization is showing early effects.

Posted by: Absolute power is a plus, absolutely! at March 05, 2013 06:28 PM (I88Jc)

11 [i["Well, I just want to say statistics are not on your side,

When these dipshit leftists make these claims, the response needs to be "Really, which statistics are those?"

Posted by: Jay at March 05, 2013 06:29 PM (WSgyE)

12 Evi Hudak is not just ignorant and a liar, she is objectively pro-rapist.

Her position CANNOT be reconciled with opposition to rape.

She is a sick bitch and I hope they have the ability to recall politicians by popular vote in Colorado.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:29 PM (bxiXv)

13 Bullets don't penetrate flesh!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:29 PM (Rcoex)

14 I am still dancing on Huga Chavez's grave. Death to Tyrants!

Posted by: ALH at March 05, 2013 06:29 PM (eqV3Q)

15 50 feet away from the campus police? Really? If the police can't respond when they are only 50 feet away, what good are they? I guess that is kind of this victim's point.

Posted by: SH at March 05, 2013 06:29 PM (gmeXX)

16 'Just lie back and think of Obama.'

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:30 PM (Rcoex)

17 What the fuck has happened to Colorado? Infestation of Californians?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (UOM48)

18 say statistics are not on your side,

Is a lie this silly leftist needs to tell herself.

Also, it sounds a lot like "What difference, at this point does it make"?

Posted by: Jay at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (WSgyE)

19 This point [past statistics show that a gun was not a factor in preventing a rape] was made here over a week ago, and it has taken me this long to figure it out.

Past statistics don't show guns as a factor because guns were not present at the time of the rape. As shown in the post, it was a gun free zone.

The dem politician is using statistical evidence that is based on the fact that guns are not present as saying that even if they were available to the victim it would have made little difference because it has made little difference in the past.

Even when the rape takes place at the victim's home, the gun might well be stored, locked up, unloaded and the victim didn't have time to retrieve the weapon. The statistics would show that having a weapon did not prevent the rape; the democrat conclusion is then no reason to have a weapon.

[ I confess to being a little slow, but eventually I'll get there.]

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (a1cox)

20 If I was a GOP politician in CO, here is what I would say. Not only does the left want to take your gun away, but if you are being raped, you are on your own.

Posted by: SH at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (gmeXX)

21 Drudge is reporting that Eric Holder says that drone attacks on US soil are legal. Death to Tyrants!

Posted by: ALH at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (eqV3Q)

22 The Greater Good.

Posted by: Neighborhood Watch Alliance at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (7xeJQ)

23 What the fuck has happened to Colorado? Infestation of Californians Jordans?

Fixed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 05, 2013 06:31 PM (SU3pu)

24 ""Well, I just want to say statistics are not on your side, even if you had had a gun. You said that you were a martial arts student, I mean person, experience in taekwondo, and yet because this individual was so large and was able to overcome you even with your skills, and chances are that if you had had a gun, then he would have been able to get than from you and possibly use it against you," Hudak said."

She sounds Concerned.



(And also extremely stupid.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (Rcoex)

25 From the link: they recommend attacking the rapist with a ballpoint pen, or vomiting, or urinating, or telling him you're menstruating or carrying a disease.

Or, just spitballin' here, you could blow his nuts off.

Posted by: pep at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (6TB1Z)

26 Sweetie, I know you think you need a gun, but we've decided that it's better you get raped because we feel very safe and enlightened in our doorman protected apartments and guns are icky. Try peeing yourself.

Posted by: your betters at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (wsGWu)

27 Dems love statistics for guns, but on economic matters, anecdotes are all that matter.

Posted by: SH at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (gmeXX)

28 Just completely O/T.

You can not make up some dumb fucking ledes. This from the French news agency.


Hugo Chavez death: Live Report




Shit, I am tuning in for that. Zombie reports!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (wR+pz)

29 What the fuck is wrong with these people???



And AtC, if you're around, the soapbox is waiting for you.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (GEICT)

30 Democratic State Represenative Evi Hudak, you got a purty mouf.

Posted by: Deliverence at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (N2yhW)

31 Most of the statistical horseshit from the left on guns comes (made up almost in whole) from advocacy orgs. Their famous Garen Wintemute study about "more likely to be used agianst you" had terrible methodology and was debunked almost immediately, and on top of that when he was asked if he would want his wife to be armed if she was attacked he answered "yes."

The left are just control-frenzied liars with a pathetically distorted ideology that elevates, as Evan Sayet put it, "wrong over right, evil over good, and the policies that lead to failure over those that lead to success."

Thus the glowing praise for dictators and hatred for people who actually do things productive and helpful, like for example making the desert bloom (Israel).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (bxiXv)

32 17 What the fuck has happened to Colorado? Infestation of Californians?

Pretty much.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (3D74W)

33 It's official now. Colorado is the first pro rape state.

Go rapists!

Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (0PiQ4)

34 Dems love statistics for guns, but on economic matters, anecdotes are all that matter.

Posted by: SH at March 05, 2013 06:32 PM (gmeXX)


No, they love lies. Real statistic show that areas with a lot of gun carrying people are the safest places in the US.

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (53z96)

35 It looks like Colorado is bucking for those sweet rape-tourism dollars.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (piMMO)

36 Try peeing yourself.

That's extra.

Posted by: Hooker at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (N2yhW)

37 Hugo is still dead.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (ndlFj)

38 210,000 women per year will have take one for the team -- for the Greater Good of disarmament

Inform the counselors at the campus Womyns Centers; they need to update their brochures.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (hO8IJ)

39 I have four daughters. I can tell you, I'd much rather they be armed with a Glock than a Bic.

Posted by: pep at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (6TB1Z)

40 Rape is a violent crime that needs specially trained professionals to intervene. Otherwise, the victim with a boner may suffer.

Posted by: Absolute power is a plus, absolutely! at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (I88Jc)

41 Isn't this what you have been talking about with Lena Dunham Ace? This witness is not part of the Progressive Sisterhood, so her live, and her body have less value. It might even be argued that the Left, with it's fetishism against guns that seems almost Freudian, is more concerned with weakening bad men (i.e. all non-Left men) than protecting all women. I know it's freaky, but with some of the Leftists I have had to know, I would believe it.

Posted by: calbadger at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (TaWQc)

42 Hey break out the pudding and vodka. CNN reports Hugo Chavez has really died.

http://tinyurl.com/b4qdegj

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (h4Bce)

43 This terrible incident reinforces our strong belief that consciousness needs to be raised on the need for all Americans to respect gun- free zones. Even the rapists.

Posted by: The Oberlin College Consciousness Monitoring Committee at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (26PWj)

44 Vic - well that is true. I certainly didn't mean to imply the statistics they use are anything close to being accurate.

But this is the kind of anecdote we need to show how awful the dems are on guns.

Keep up the gun debate Dems. I'm sure that will help in 2014.

Posted by: SH at March 05, 2013 06:35 PM (gmeXX)

45 Allah wants American whores to get raped.

Posted by: Muslim Brotherhood at March 05, 2013 06:35 PM (VfTO4)

46 Ace there is a Virginia legislator by the name of Christopher Dumler, a JAG officer and Democrat politician, who pled guilty to forceable sodomy under a special deal where he only was found guilty of a misdemeanor.

He refuses to resign. The party of women, forceably sodomized that is.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 05, 2013 06:35 PM (++kZl)

47 And you all laughed at me!

Posted by: Clayton Williams at March 05, 2013 06:35 PM (+iA5G)

48 take one for the team

I volunteer.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 05, 2013 06:35 PM (N2yhW)

49 42 Hey break out the pudding and vodka. CNN reports Hugo Chavez has really died.

http://tinyurl.com/b4qdegj

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (h4Bce)



A suggested a dipping in the Chavez thread. Bannion had some....odd....ideas.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)

50 9
Gun grabbers are stupid. Not only that but they are in violation of the
Constitution. We MUST pass laws making it a felony to propose any law
that infringes on the second amendment.
=======
Nah. A law ain't no good. If they're willing to ignore the Constitution, they'll ignore a law.

Besides, first court--even a conservative one--that gets a hold of it will strike down such a law as a restriction on the legislature's power to legislate.

And the piss-yellow coward John Roberts will just call it a tax.

No. We have a solution. Our right to own guns is not a right that flows from man.

Consent of the governed and no further; he who refuses to respect the law is entitled to no protection under those laws.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2013 06:36 PM (VjL9S)

51 Posted by: Clayton Williams

There's an obscure but relevant sock.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 05, 2013 06:36 PM (N2yhW)

52 How about if rape victims are allowed to carry a gun but can only use it if they pee or vomit on it first? Is that a compromise Democrats can work with?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 05, 2013 06:36 PM (HDgX3)

53 Mofo Sandra, always buttin' in.

Posted by: dogfish at March 05, 2013 06:37 PM (N2yhW)

54
So....I guess women soldiers, sent into combat, shouldn't have guns.
Because the enemy might take their gun away, and use it against them.

Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2013 06:37 PM (QPnFm)

55 BCochran, totally missed that thread. Now I am afraid to go read it.

Here have another picture of Cammy from Street Fighter
http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2512070/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:37 PM (h4Bce)

56 "42 Hey break out the pudding and vodka. CNN reports Hugo Chavez has really died.

http://tinyurl.com/b4qdegj

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:34 PM (h4Bce) "

Damn it, Anna! Now that CNN has reported it, we can no longer be certain.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:38 PM (Rcoex)

57 Nah. A law ain't no good. If they're willing to ignore the Constitution, they'll ignore a law.


Ad to the law that anyone can enforce it up to and including shooting said politician on sight.

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:38 PM (53z96)

58 Rape: It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: JDTAY at March 05, 2013 06:39 PM (a0nis)

59 Statistics show that poor personal hygiene is more effective than firearms in deterring rape.

Posted by: Evi Hudak at March 05, 2013 06:39 PM (26PWj)

60 Here have another picture of Cammy from Street Fighter
http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2512070/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:37 PM (h4Bce)



Ha! Not bad at all.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:39 PM (GEICT)

61 Did you forget your Whistle? Vomit? Urination?

Posted by: Evi(l) Hudak at March 05, 2013 06:39 PM (VfTO4)

62 My only quibble with Collins' testimony is when she said "Respectfully, Senator..." She owes that toxic scrunt nothing, certainly no respect.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at March 05, 2013 06:39 PM (hrDVY)

63 I think the woman who said "well, they'll just have to shoot me" will be the only one comfortable with the statistics of the Colorado Democrat. I didn't know that cognitive impairment from marijuana usage could develop so quickly.

Posted by: no good deed at March 05, 2013 06:39 PM (mjR67)

64
Colorado democrats are loathsome pathetic assholes.
The demco-frat-club moron socialists can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals - so they are going for law abiding citizens.

Hickenlooper will get a call from the nation's jackass in cheif - Biden - and it's all over for CO.

Posted by: F&U at March 05, 2013 06:40 PM (O7ksG)

65 Another liberal opens it's liberal mouth, and shit falls out. Had this been a Republican, a man, and the issue something other than gun control, there'd be dozens of news write ups on this by now....and hundreds more by tomorrow. Since it's a lib, and since it's about getting evil guns 'off the street', not a peep from the MFM will be heard.



OT: This is the second time, at the same hotel that the internet has sucked sweaty donkey balls. It cuts out, drops to 'local only', is slooooooow. But I think I have the code worked out. Call the front desk...complain. When they say the internet is up, and is just fine, and the problem must be with my computer....inform them that it does the same thing on my work computer, and smart phone. When they say they'll check it, wait five minutes, call back, and complain again. The key here is to get them to say they'll call their tech guy. Once that happens, the internet suddenly starts working just as soon as you hang up. I'm convinced some connections are given more priority over other connections, and you have to bug them until they bump your connection to a higher priority.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 06:40 PM (eyJh9)

66 62
My only quibble with Collins' testimony is when she said "Respectfully,
Senator..." She owes that toxic scrunt nothing, certainly no respect.




Nonsense. She's worked very hard for that title.

Posted by: Babs Boxer at March 05, 2013 06:41 PM (UOM48)

67 I am getting *REALLY* sick of spending all of my energy just trying to protect the BASIC RULES OF CIVILIZED SOCIETY from people who want to turn me into a serf.

They don't respect the rules. The are in violation of them. It is a large-scale legalistic coup.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:41 PM (bxiXv)

68 When will the Democrats stop their War Against Women?

Posted by: mare at March 05, 2013 06:41 PM (A98Xu)

69 Conservative women deserve to be raped.

Posted by: Theyre all thinking it at March 05, 2013 06:41 PM (wsGWu)

70 PLEASE TWEET THIS EVIL BITCH

@SenHudak

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 06:41 PM (8sCoq)

71 68 When will the Democrats stop their War Against Women?
Posted by: mare at March 05, 2013 06:41 PM (A98Xu)


Divide and conquer, that's always been their policy. For everyone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (bxiXv)

72 Are we ready for the Affordable Handgun Act" yet?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (Tgggp)

73 I've got a gun under my desk that can help with your rapist.

Posted by: Conn State Rep Ernest Hewitt at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (dSE0q)

74 Here have another picture of Cammy from Street Fighter
http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2512070/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:37 PM (h4Bce)




http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2416608/

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (GEICT)

75 Has Whoopi cleared up whether Amanda suffered a rape or a rape-rape?

Posted by: mare at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (A98Xu)

76 Just lay back and think of Obama.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (qyv02)

77
Democratic State Represenative Evi Hudak...



Wasn't there an "Evi Hudak" toy in the "Masters of The Universe" line? Pretty sure.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (kdS6q)

78 Perhaps a full Burqa would have fended off her attacker. What? No?

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at March 05, 2013 06:42 PM (hhsyr)

79 The gun grabbers want me raped and want me dead and I don't think they're too fussed about the order in which that occurs.


You know what? There are no guarantees that if I have a gun, those things won't occur. But at least I will have a chance to stop it. Without a gun? Then there is an absolute guarantee that my ability to protect myself will be nearly totally eliminated.


I am five feet tall. Let's set aside the whole voluptuous thing for the moment, shall we? I am five. feet. tall. That's sixty inches, from crown to sole. My reach, via fist and foot, is limited respective to that. Virtually every man and nearly all women have a significant advantage against me due to this. All that I have to even attempt to equalize the odds is a weapon. I had best have a projectile weapon or I am virtually guaranteed to lose a fight. There is no amount of training or skill that can overcome the fact that I am five feet nothing.


I want a chance. That's it, just a chance at being able to protect myself. Those who deem me too weak or hysterical or idiotic to handle a gun are siding with allowing me to be victimized with nearly no realistic chance to fight back. That is vile. That is disgusting. That is perverse. The fact that those who hold such views deem themselves moral superior is ludicrous.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (Gk3SS)

80
Did you forget your Whistle? Vomit? Urination?

If I was a rapist, and these defensive measures were threatened against me, I'd inform my victim that I'd hose her off, beat the shit out of her, and rape her anyway. It's much harder to argue with a well aimed bullet though. But hey....statistics!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (eyJh9)

81 Albemarle County Supervisor Christopher J. Dumler said Monday he won’t heed his party’s call for him to resign in the wake of his guilty plea to misdemeanor sexual battery.
“It hasn’t changed anything,” Dumler said after a budget work session. “I’m looking forward to working on the budget process and working hard on behalf of the people of Scottsville.”

On Sunday, the Albemarle County Democratic Party Committee and the executive committee of the city Democratic Committee called on Dumler to resign, joining a growing chorus. County supervisors unanimously censured Dumler last month following his guilty plea. All five of his colleagues and state House Minority Leader David J. Toscano, D-Charlottesville, have urged Dumler to quit.
The youngest supervisor in county history, Dumler was considered a promising young Democrat at the time of his arrest last fall on a charge of forcible sodomy, a felony. He pleaded to the lesser charge Jan. 31.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (++kZl)

82 The great writer of all things turkey , Joe Kelly , related the story of when his daughter moved to D.C. for her first job after college . Joe insisted she take a handgun to her new digs .
D.C. real estate prices being what they are Joe's daughter had to have a roomate .
Anyway , shortly after her arrival in D.C. Ms. Kelly was startled by a strange man kicking her door open . Ms. Kelly promptly pointed her hogleg at the asshole , causing him to rethink his choice of victims .
First thing Ms. Kelly's roomie had to say . " I'm not comfortable being in a house with a gun " . Not , thank god you saved us from , god knows what .

Point is , there is no reasoning with these anti gun dickheads .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (USjX1)

83 Here have another picture of Cammy from Street Fighter
http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2512070/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:37 PM (h4Bce)


Dammit, at this rate I'm going to be downloading pics all day!!!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (bxiXv)

84 All is explained. She is the sister of Fugly Napalitano. The one of the left

http://is.gd/YkCE1J

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (53z96)

85 Without victims, the Democrats would have no one to stand upon to get to the upper rungs of power.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (fMgJk)

86 here's the fat fuck in question

http://coloradosenate.org/home/images/32.jpg

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (8sCoq)

87 Legalized pot? Pro-Rape? Colorado here I come.

Posted by: #Occupy Wall St. Rapists at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (VfTO4)

88 Evie Hudak, born in NYC, Democrat.

Posted by: Ook? at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (OQpzc)

89 I'm certanly not going to criticise Ms. Collins, it obviously took a lot of guts to tell your story in front of a bunch of self-important imbecilies.
But I would like...and I think this NEEDS to happen...somebody needs to start yelling back atthese Senators and House Reps. The "At long last, have you no shame?" thing.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (YmPwQ)

90 BTW, it is Evie. Went and looked at her pic; she doesn't have to worry about rape.

Posted by: dogfish at March 05, 2013 06:45 PM (N2yhW)

91 Amanda Collins better prepare herself for the full Joe The Plumber treatment.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 05, 2013 06:45 PM (xjpRj)

92 "Well, I just want to say statistics are not on your side..."

Well, that settles it. That being the case, the 1972 Olympic ice hockey team could have just stayed home and not wasted the effort.

The Red Sox should have just stopped trying to get into the World Series.

And the American colonists in 1776? They could have just learned to like tea.


Posted by: Keith Arnold at March 05, 2013 06:45 PM (n4EDK)

93 "86 here's the fat fuck in question

http://coloradosenate.org/home/images/32.jpg"

"Like anyone would want to "r" her."

Posted by: mare at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (A98Xu)

94 88 Evie Hudak, born in NYC, Democrat.

Isn't the governor from NY too?

Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (QPnFm)

95

Great post.

Where are all of those bra-less women screaming a women's right to choose?

Posted by: beach at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (XYSwB)

96 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 06:40 PM (eyJh9)

The IT guy is

a) running a gambling site from the hotel servers
b) watching waaaayyy too much porn
c) downloading all three epi of LOTR AND the entire StarWars series
d) running a store
e) selling all the stuff stole from patrons on ebay.
f) all of the above.

when they call, he backs off for awhile.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (qyv02)

97 Admit it BCochran, you want to PaddleHer and clean her up.

Poor Merovign.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (h4Bce)

98 Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (8sCoq)


Hah, beat you to it.

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (53z96)

99 Evi Hudek appears to have contracted Scruntner's Disease.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (DLu2s)

100 Er....the 1972 hockey team?

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 05, 2013 06:47 PM (YmPwQ)

101 That is vile. That is disgusting. That is perverse. The fact that those who hold such views deem themselves moral superior is ludicrous.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (Gk3SS)


It's not that they think they're morally superior (though they certainly act that way), it's that they're offended by morality. They oppose the concept that there is a right or wrong.

And yes, that is a form of insanity, and yes, that's why their position objectively makes no sense at all.

Point is , there is no reasoning with these anti gun dickheads .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (USjX1)


Which is why our only policy here needs to be to say no, and then enforce the prohibition. Just no - no bargaining, no negotiation, no explanations - we've done that since the Civil War and the fuckers *just* *won't* *listen*.

They don't deserve consideration.

NO is what they deserve.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:48 PM (bxiXv)

102 The Red Sox should have just stopped trying to get into the World Series.


You mean like the Cubs did?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:48 PM (Gk3SS)

103 Allah takes Hudak's "statistics" argument for what it is: A simple statement that some women are just going to have to be raped -- 210,000 women per year will have take one for the team -- for the Greater Good of disarmament.



Good for Allah.

It's like the libs are inching towards sharia law.

Posted by: beach at March 05, 2013 06:48 PM (XYSwB)

104 That's a man, baby.

Posted by: Austin Powers at March 05, 2013 06:48 PM (N2yhW)

105 Who are you going to believe: me, a trusted government official of a tyrannical regime, or your own lying eyes and personal training and experience?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 06:48 PM (Cnqmv)

106
Yeah this state is brutal, it has gone from steady red to moonbat CA in a 10 year span. At least 6 of these 7 gun laws will pass and be signed. We're fucked.

But I do encourage people just to ignore these and not comply.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 05, 2013 06:48 PM (p/cQy)

107 Why is it that "Women Organized Against Rape" are all chicks that's you'd never fuck anyway?

Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at March 05, 2013 06:49 PM (YmPwQ)

108 You know, I'm thinking the much maligned Akin had a valid point. Women DO have a way to shut down the reproductive processes in case of rape. It's called free birth control.

Obama, the only friend a woman needs.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at March 05, 2013 06:49 PM (hrDVY)

109 Democrat war on women?

Now, kiddies, if we [Breitbarts] or we [rich GOP consultants] had learned anything in the past 4 years, we'd have an interweb network of incestuous sites cross-pollonnating this story so hard the MSM couldn't ignore it.

But here we are, fapping to pictures of Rosie O'Donnel instead.

Own it.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at March 05, 2013 06:49 PM (X/+QT)

110 There is no reasoning with these people. Prepare for a real fight because that's what we're headed for.


It's gonna be over pretty quick if they don't believe in icky guns.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (d0Dmj)

111 "Statistics senator? Statistics? Statistically you have a 100% chance of dying. Given those odds, wouldn't it be better if you got ahead of the game and offed yourself right now?"

That should have been the response.

And that should be the response each and every time they throw out any statistic they pretend shows a gun won't help.




Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (VjL9S)

112 Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 05, 2013 06:44 PM (YmPwQ)


Too genteel! I prefer screaming "Are you MFers insane!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (Cnqmv)

113 Poor Merovign.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:46 PM (h4Bce)


This is as bad as the Great Israeli Soldier Babe thread. I may have to get more disk space.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (bxiXv)

114 AtC, I hope it's ok, I prob should've asked first, but I posted the last paragraph of your...statement...up on my FB page. I attributed it to "a friend".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)

115 "92 "Well, I just want to say statistics are not on your side..."

Well, that settles it. That being the case, the 1972 Olympic ice hockey team could have just stayed home and not wasted the effort.

The Red Sox should have just stopped trying to get into the World Series.

And the American colonists in 1776? They could have just learned to like tea.


Posted by: Keith Arnold at March 05, 2013 06:45 PM (n4EDK) "

Statistics is God for stupid people.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (Rcoex)

116 Why are all these barbaric rapes happening today, or ever?

Because Capitalism.

Restless young men, with no hope of overcoming the alienation of income inequality inherent in the system, seek to subjugate the sisterhood in order to justify monetary lending.

Posted by: Absolute power is a plus, absolutely! at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (I88Jc)

117 Went and looked at her pic; she doesn't have to worry about rape.

I hate to break this to you, but fat ugly scrunts get raped, too. Old ladies get raped.

It's not about sexual desire. It's about desiring to inflict pain and humiliation.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (hO8IJ)

118 Russian cosplayers get real Mi-8 helicopters for their photo-shoots.
http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3175879/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (h4Bce)

119 Sorry. 1980. 1972 was a different Olympic memory entirely.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (n4EDK)

120 Just lie back and think of gun control.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (T0NGe)

121 Fat, ugly, and stupid is no way to go through life Evi. Go back to NYC and go bar hopping at 4 am. .

Posted by: Dean Wormer at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (53z96)

122 The Party isn't on your side.

Posted by: Hank Chinaski at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (+H/dq)

123 First thing Ms. Kelly's roomie had to say . " I'm not comfortable being in a house with a gun " .

What a fucking retard.

Did Ms. Kelly tell roomie she still had a chance to catch back up with the guy and let him rape or rob her?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 05, 2013 06:52 PM (LFiXO)

124 I want a chance. That's it, just a chance at being able to protect myself.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:43 PM (Gk3SS)


Have you tried being butt-ugly? It's been a Godsend for me.

Posted by: Evi Hoodlooks at March 05, 2013 06:52 PM (tcTbv)

125 I hate to break this to you, but fat ugly scrunts get raped, too. Old ladies get raped.

It's not about sexual desire. It's about desiring to inflict pain and humiliation.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (hO8IJ)


Exactly.

It's about control and power and perversion.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:52 PM (GEICT)

126 Hickenlooper is from PA. His religion is Quaker.

Posted by: Ook? at March 05, 2013 06:52 PM (OQpzc)

127
Go rapists! Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2013 06:33 PM (0PiQ4) Formerly known as the Buffaloes. I like it! It shows great sensitivity to cultural diversity.

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at March 05, 2013 06:52 PM (hhsyr)

128 Statistics is God for stupid people.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (Rcoex

That's what I said to my Stat's prof. in College. Didn't go over so good?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 05, 2013 06:53 PM (9Bj8R)

129 Collins responded by saying, "Respectfully Senator, you weren't there...I was there..."

See, that's where she messed up. She should've said something along the lines of, "Look, Fuckhead, and I mean that as disrespectfully as possible you submoronic POS. I was there while you were diddling your papers with a dedicated security detail at your fingertips. So F-Off and Die! I won't be beholden to idiots like you and think maybe I should defend myself against you, first, before I bother with worrying about future, would-be rapists."

And then she should've gotten mean.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 05, 2013 06:53 PM (eHIJJ)

130 Re: gun laws.

Your representatives wish to make you outlaws/criminals. I say; oblige them by acting as such.

Criminals aren't concerned about gun laws nor do they obey gun free zones.

Neither should you.

An important fact of government: if the populace doesnt respect and comply, there's actually little that government can do. We out number them.

the only factor is the fear of being by yourself. Time for everyone to realize that their are more on your side than on theirs and that numbers will make the difference.

Again it's the moderates or the ones who can't make up their mind that are the problem. They wait for consensus, meanwhile everyone else take it in the ass.

Fear is the real killer. Ask a soldier. When you turn and run is when you're most vulnerable.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 05, 2013 06:53 PM (qyv02)

131 118 Russian cosplayers get real Mi-8 helicopters for their photo-shoots.

http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3175879/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:51 PM (h4Bce)




I dunno know if this counts AP, but it should.

http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2417246/

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:54 PM (GEICT)

132 It's about control and power and perversion.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:52 PM (GEICT)


No wonder the Democrats want to protect the poor widdwe wapists. Symapthy.

Just not with the victims. Because to Democrats, people who do bad things are victims too! Maybe even *better* victims! Because patriarchy!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:54 PM (bxiXv)

133 Just remember the current crop of Progressive-Socialist Democrats are Walter Mitty Feudalists. They want to be in control and in power to tell you what you can and can not do. So if that makes you a victim, they are fine with that because that is what they want. If allows them to get their jollies off knowing they control you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:55 PM (h4Bce)

134 If the rnc and state parties are not seeking out people like this to use in congressional and senate ads to eventually beat democrat incidents then they deserve to lose.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 05, 2013 06:55 PM (8kDDT)

135 Time to call it a day.

Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:55 PM (53z96)

136 Statistics is God for stupid people.

76.3% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Forty percent of all people know that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 06:56 PM (hO8IJ)

137 BCochran, I think you just found one of AlextheChick's secret photos.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:56 PM (h4Bce)

138 Statistics is God for stupid people.


"All else being equal", which is usually isn't.

Posted by: fluffy at March 05, 2013 06:56 PM (z9HTb)

139

So, what are we gonna do with it?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (LPRBM)

140 AtC, I hope it's ok, I prob should've asked first,
but I posted the last paragraph of your...statement...up on my FB page. I
attributed it to "a friend".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)



No problem.


I'm kicking around an idea about the connection between gun control, socialism, conservatism, risk and chance. The working thesis is that conservatives (writ large) are more comfortable with the concept of risk, that is to say, that conservatives do not expect guaranteed returns and recognize that there are risks to everything. Thus conservatives are not saying that a gun will insure that the bad thing won't happen. Instead, there is a chance that it won't and that chance has value. Socialists (writ large) want guarantees and want to eliminate risk from nearly all realms of life. Thus socialists reject claims that gun use can decrease bad things happening because there are risks to gun use and it's not a guaranteed security feature.


Now, there's all kinds of caveats and holes to poke in that but it is an idea to which I'm allocating some processing cycles.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (Gk3SS)

141 Ms. Hudak has spent many years in the field of education. She comes by her stupidity naturally.

Posted by: Ronster at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (pDjY6)

142 Rape is a crime of aggression, humiliation, and domination.
Gun control is a crime of aggression, humiliation and domination.

Not surprising someone condoning the latter has no ill feeling to the former.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (0q2P7)

143 If allows them to get their jollies off knowing they control you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:55 PM (h4Bce)


They have SWAT teams and IRS audits and lawyers and jails and drones and missiles.

But control is what they really want.

So I can hurt them more than they can hurt me.

I can say no.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (bxiXv)

144 "109 Democrat war on women?

Now, kiddies, if we [Breitbarts] or we [rich GOP consultants] had learned anything in the past 4 years, we'd have an interweb network of incestuous sites cross-pollonnating this story so hard the MSM couldn't ignore it.

But here we are, fapping to pictures of Rosie O'Donnel instead.

Own it.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at March 05, 2013 06:49 PM (X/+QT) "

Wait, Rosie?


(Puts picture of Lawrence away.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:58 PM (Rcoex)

145 Time to call it a day.


Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2013 06:55 PM (53z96)

Now I know how you can be ready to go with really good posts at ungodly hours!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 06:58 PM (Cnqmv)

146 Meanwhile History Channel's first episode of 'The Bible' apparently drew over 27 million viewers. Which meant it stole the #1 spot for the night.

https://aenetworks.box.com/s/asgmvuf5r2stszf99rkc

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 06:58 PM (h4Bce)

147 At long-last, we have found out what a legitimate rape is: A rape in a gun-free zone.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2013 06:59 PM (VjL9S)

148 I'll tell ya what will stop rape : a lack of a whore-like wardrobe.

Posted by: Rep. Paul Rosenthal at March 05, 2013 06:59 PM (4cRnj)

149 Hudak cited propaganda statistics saying for every one woman who successfully killed an assailant there are 83 women killed by an assailant as justification for trying to legislate away 's. Collins right to defend herself. I say unless that ratio approaches one to one that we should be doing more to arm women. Give women a level field and a fighting chance. Link in my nick.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 05, 2013 06:59 PM (NGuqP)

150 Now, there's all kinds of caveats and holes to poke in that but it is an idea to which I'm allocating some processing cycles.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (Gk3SS)


We fight for the Users!

Posted by: TRON at March 05, 2013 07:00 PM (bxiXv)

151 A gun is a restraining order with explosive conviction behind it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:00 PM (h4Bce)

152
It's a little selfish that people like Evi Hudak, who NEVER have to worry about being attacked for sexual reasons, thing the same is true of every other woman.

Posted by: Gunslinger at March 05, 2013 07:00 PM (4S7hN)

153 Conservatives want the people to have control over their lives, progressives want to have control over the people's lives.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 05, 2013 07:00 PM (qyv02)

154
Democrats: Women are too inept to pay for their own birth control or shoot guns with their clumsy, weak little hands.

Unless they're in the military, of course.

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:00 PM (c1gk/)

155 Why don't we try having a gun holiday in America. One day, where it is illegal to fire a gun by ANYBODY.

No guns, no tear gas.

Would Obama take his chances on Gun Holiday?

Would Evi?

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at March 05, 2013 07:01 PM (tcTbv)

156 "128 Statistics is God for stupid people.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 06:50 PM (Rcoex

That's what I said to my Stat's prof. in College. Didn't go over so good?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 05, 2013 06:53 PM (9Bj8R) "

:-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 07:01 PM (Rcoex)

157 The reason those 83 were killed is because they didn't have a firearm to fight back with.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 05, 2013 07:01 PM (qyv02)

158 I'm starting to think democrat women want all women disarmed to increase their chances of gettin' laid.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 05, 2013 07:02 PM (4cRnj)

159 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (Gk3SS)

Related thought: Risky environments also mean there is no "wired" result for any course of action, thus the "wrong" people might thrive and prosper. Controlled low risk environments reduce everyone's chances of thriving or prospering, unless , of course, they are the "correct" people (fellow travelers). In the low risk state, the entire power of the state apparatus can be brought to bear to ensure the approved result (the school solution always wins).

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (Cnqmv)

160 I have a suggestion. I think that the Democrat politician -an old woman- should have her name and addressed published in all local papers, radio, TV, online and on mobile apps, etc to let criminal rapists know that she is a willing target for them without defense (which I suspect watching this she has her own gun to protect herself- sorry about the run on sentence). Let her be an open target like the young girls on campuses who suffer targeting. Yes.. I think that is a good suggestion. Let the one who doesn't care suffer the consequences of her words. I know this won't happen but may be the young lady who was raped will run against the Democrat machine in Colorado. My...hasn't that state fallen.

Posted by: buffy at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (INAPN)

161 Ugh. I just watched the video. That woman is disgusting. Though I guess well suited for Colorado, unfortunately.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (eyJh9)

162 THE GIRLS GET GUNS

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (8sCoq)

163 liberals like to hold on to these statistical arguments.

it's a disconnect where they live in generally safe areas where gun ownership isn't widespread, can't understand why anyone would want one, and think the self-defense argument is moot as long as guns are eliminated. human agency doesn't come into the picture

Posted by: JDP at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (60GaT)

164 Gun free zone my ass. It's only gun free to those who fear detection and consequence. Criminals do not have these fears. They have guns.


I will carry until I'm dead. Gun free stores and zones and libraries, etc., be damned. I will not be the rape these assholes are looking for.


I will, however, point out that the gun grabbers would like to see more rapes occur, particularly those with loss of life. That I will shout from rooftops until the idiots get the truth.

Posted by: tcn at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (VLG62)

165 "136 Statistics is God for stupid people.

76.3% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Forty percent of all people know that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 06:56 PM (hO8IJ) "

:-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 07:04 PM (Rcoex)

166 Then the state should get rid of all the security in the capital bldgs. What a hypocrite!

Posted by: Waldo Truth at March 05, 2013 07:04 PM (5PMD3)

167
With opposition like this ... if we can't win this one ... well ... I'm headed to the hills with all the liquor, soap, ammo and liquor I can carry.

Posted by: Bear Claw Chris Lapp at March 05, 2013 07:05 PM (u3N3z)

168 Democrats: Well sure, you might get raped, but we'll support your abortion afterward. That's what really counts.

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:05 PM (c1gk/)

169 The 83:1 "statistic" has what experts call "the smell of bullshit."

It's like when all the studies show a population is 10% overweight, and suddenly a study comes out that says 90% of them are overweight, you suddenly remember that farm smell and start wondering about how they came up with that.

Unfortunately, "science," as a profession (especially social science), has developed that "used car salesman" feel, what with all the massive fraud and abuse of principles and math and stuff.

Posted by: TRON at March 05, 2013 07:06 PM (bxiXv)

170 human agency doesn't come into the picture

That's because they see everyone who isn't part of their select group of credentialed/connected rulers as livestock.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 07:06 PM (hO8IJ)

171 Colorado: Where your right to not get raped is less important than your right to smoke pot.

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:06 PM (c1gk/)

172 Assault whistles

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2013 07:07 PM (HjPtV)

173 An armed woman is just going to have her weapon taken away.

So....I guess being armed isn't that big of a deal, eh?

So why don't we just take away bad guys' weapons when they get uppity? Is it that men aren't so easy to disarm? So women are just helpless little bunnies...? Uh..

Boy, this is a series of knots of liberal logic.

Posted by: zsasz at March 05, 2013 07:07 PM (MMC8r)

174 Unless they're in the military, of course.

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:00 PM (c1gk/)

Of course, after they return to the states, they immediately return to their stupid incompetent status and cannot possibly be allowed to handle firearms. Janet N might also declare them terrorists, but that is a different branch of the insanity of our current regime!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 07:07 PM (Cnqmv)

175 In the low risk state, the entire power of the state
apparatus can be brought to bear to ensure the approved result (the
school solution always wins).


Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (Cnqmv)



Yup. If you constrain risk, then those in charge of those constraints will have the power.

It's the triumph of the wordsmiths. Hell, look at the EPA mandating that whatever that additive was must be used in x percent of fuel. That it does not exist in sufficient quantities to do so is irrelevant. The words say it is so thus it is so. Reality does not matter.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 07:07 PM (Gk3SS)

176 #117

I knew there would be at least that wouldn't take it as a joke. Spare me the lecture.

Posted by: Austin Powers at March 05, 2013 07:07 PM (N2yhW)

177 I'm kicking around an idea about the connection between gun control, socialism, conservatism, risk and chance. The working thesis is that conservatives (writ large) are more comfortable with the concept of risk, that is to say, that conservatives do not expect guaranteed returns and recognize that there are risks to everything. Thus conservatives are not saying that a gun will insure that the bad thing won't happen. Instead, there is a chance that it won't and that chance has value. Socialists (writ large) want guarantees and want to eliminate risk from nearly all realms of life. Thus socialists reject claims that gun use can decrease bad things happening because there are risks to gun use and it's not a guaranteed security feature.


Now, there's all kinds of caveats and holes to poke in that but it is an idea to which I'm allocating some processing cycles.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 06:57 PM (Gk3SS)



Conservatives: We know nothing is guaranteed, but we want the freedom for a fighting chance.

Liberals: We demand safety in every facet and action of life and are willing to give up freedom in exchange for it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:08 PM (GEICT)

178 GODAMN THESE FUCKING interlopers in my state


I want a law that says to run for office in Colorado, you must be native born to Colorado

I hate these fucking fuckers that fucking come here and fuck things up with their fucked up fucking agendas

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 07:08 PM (8sCoq)

179 10% of those cases -- 210,000 per year -- are cases of women defending themselves against sexual assault.

An especially impressive number if you know that there aren't even 210,000 sexual assaults per year.

Yeah, sex crime stats are garbagey, and so are self-defense numbers, but...please. That's not even a little bit plausible. Two hundred is pushing it.

You're talking about actual events. Very specific ones, contingent on very specific situations. Picture them. The events. Happening. In the necessary way. Once every two minutes.

...Please.

Trying to out-RAPE! the other side is not how to win this War™.

Posted by: oblig. at March 05, 2013 07:09 PM (cePv8)

180 @149
Seamus
Hudak cites statistics, yet we do not know if the 83 women who were killed were armed, and thus capable of defending themselves. Using past history to conclude that being armed doesn't change the outcome is a fallacy if the past history is a history of unarmed victims.

I know you get it but I'm struggling to put what I'm thinking into a 30 second sound bite.

Being armed will reduce the frequency of rapes, simply because most rapes happen to unarmed victims. This dem politicians use of statistics is the kind of sophistry that really bugs me. Sorry.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 05, 2013 07:09 PM (a1cox)

181 I'm in CO on vacation skiing, practicing my second amendment rights and adhering to my namesake, Molon Labe mfers!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at March 05, 2013 07:09 PM (+2qIg)

182 Rafi from 'The League' should be in CO to help these assholes.


http://tinyurl.com/bd4nlfg

PYH - Protect Your Hole

Posted by: RWC at March 05, 2013 07:09 PM (sqp6o)

183 >Democrats: Well sure, you might get raped, but we'll support your abortion afterward. That's what really counts.


And have some marijuana- you'll feel better.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 07:10 PM (8sCoq)

184 163 liberals like to hold on to these statistical arguments.

Posted by: JDP at March 05, 2013 07:03 PM (60GaT)


Let me tell you something about statistics and liberals. It's bullshit.

Anyone ever hurl that "97% of scientists support AGW" crap?

Do you want to know the real numbers? 75 out of 10,257.

I am *not* shitting you, 10,257 surveys were taken, and all but 77 were removed from the data set, 75 of which supported a bland statement about humans affecting the environment.

75 out of 10,257 = 97% in leftist minds.

They fucking lie about EVERYTHING.

Posted by: TRON at March 05, 2013 07:10 PM (bxiXv)

185 Aren't Quakers pacifists?

Posted by: Ook? at March 05, 2013 07:10 PM (OQpzc)

186 117 - It's not about sexual desire. It's about desiring to inflict pain and humiliation.

Which explains Hudak's choice of profession.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at March 05, 2013 07:11 PM (hrDVY)

187 Listen, sugartits, I know that rape made you have a bad day, but let's not get all emotional with the guns and whatnot. Here, have a joint. You'll feel better.

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:11 PM (c1gk/)

188 I knew there would be at least that wouldn't take it as a joke.

Possibly because only a sick piece of shit (or a progressive, but I repeat myself) thinks rape is funny.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 07:11 PM (hO8IJ)

189 Yeah, sex crime stats are garbagey, and so are self-defense numbers, but...please. That's not even a little bit plausible. Two hundred is pushing it.


Are you honestly putting forth the proposition that in a country of 315 million people there are only 200 attempted sexual assaults a year?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 07:12 PM (Gk3SS)

190 If guns are so ineffective at making people dead, why are we outlawing them?

Posted by: Shrike27 at March 05, 2013 07:12 PM (DebgL)

191
Man, I just can't WAIT for the Saturday Night Live sketch on THIS!!!





What?

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:12 PM (c1gk/)

192 Once again government employees are the enemy.

Posted by: tony redenzo at March 05, 2013 07:12 PM (TtA6H)

193 I hate these fucking fuckers that fucking come here and fuck things up with their fucked up fucking agendas

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 05, 2013 07:08 PM (8sCoq)


We know what you mean.

Posted by: Californians Angry Because Their State Was Screwed By Incoming East-Coast Leftists at March 05, 2013 07:13 PM (bxiXv)

194 Heh. Colorado's motto: "Nothing Without the Deity."

I'm surprised they haven't gone insane over that yet.

'Cause it's just like RAPE.

Posted by: zsasz at March 05, 2013 07:13 PM (MMC8r)

195 They need that rape caused pregnancy abortion money.

Posted by: madamex at March 05, 2013 07:13 PM (+kvQd)

196
Boy, this is a series of knots of liberal logic.

It's actually easy to figure out. They're finger painting politics in the blood of innocents, as usual. They're trying to get as much mileage from Sandy Hook as they can...logic be damned. They will get whatever they can from this....small tactical victories toward the eventual goal of eliminating guns. It's why they must be fought.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 07:14 PM (eyJh9)

197 I don't know what the girl is complaining about, she got laid and nobody died, win-win.

Posted by: Evi Hudak at March 05, 2013 07:14 PM (mV8sg)

198
Conservatives: We know nothing is guaranteed, but we want the freedom for a fighting chance.




(yes)


Liberals: We demand safety in every facet and action of life and are willing to give up freedom in exchange for it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:08 PM (GEICT)

see this is where my belief falls apart , the average person perhaps thinks yeah,
the progressive leaders of any party in my opinion just like the idea of america disarmed.

Posted by: willow ette at March 05, 2013 07:14 PM (nqBYe)

199 Alex, I think in general you are correct. You can transfer your thesis to business also.

Posted by: mare at March 05, 2013 07:14 PM (A98Xu)

200 184 well my point isn't so much about that as it is statistical arguments not always mattering to the degree they make them. it's more the principle of the thing: do people have the right to self-defense.

i feel the same way about the death penalty, in CA recently their main argument was how expensive the appeals process was, but that's just beating around the bush

Posted by: JDP at March 05, 2013 07:15 PM (60GaT)

201 #188

Name calling. Ok. Clearly this "Senator" thinks it's funny, so maybe you are right.

Posted by: Austin Powers at March 05, 2013 07:15 PM (N2yhW)

202 An especially impressive number if you know that there aren't even 210,000 sexual assaults per year.

You might want to let the DOJ know they did their violent crime survey all wrong, because they say there was 243,800 in 2011.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv11.pdf

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 07:16 PM (hO8IJ)

203 Yup. If you constrain risk, then those in charge of those constraints will have the power.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 07:07 PM (Gk3SS)

Exactly. Better yet, those who chose to be in charge of the constraints are typically bureaucrats that have never done anything is a risk environment and are now empowered to stifle risk and its by-product, progress, by use of the administrative state!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 07:16 PM (Cnqmv)

204 Name calling.

Truth telling. Sorry you can't handle it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 07:16 PM (hO8IJ)

205 I'm so. so sorry for what my formerly libertarian state has become. The only explanation I have is ex-pat Californians. We've become Washington, Oregon, etc. in that a small geographic area (Denver and Boulder) has killed us. Pueblo's the retarded stepson, as they get every dollar they have from the feds, and they vote for anyone with free money.,

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at March 05, 2013 07:17 PM (Q8Wa9)

206 But binders ,Romney ... war on womenz!!!

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 05, 2013 07:18 PM (9+ccr)

207 "188 I knew there would be at least that wouldn't take it as a joke.

Possibly because only a sick piece of shit (or a progressive, but I repeat myself) thinks rape is funny.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 05, 2013 07:11 PM (hO8IJ) "

Let's not start policing each other's speech just yet.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 05, 2013 07:18 PM (Rcoex)

208 Statistics mean absolutely nothing to Democrats when the subject of single parenting (survey says: Don't) or Head Start ( statistics show that there is no lasting benefit, at all) come up. Figures.

But yeah fuck the Party of Statistically Helpless Women. They'll "love" us women straight into burkas because we can't be trusted to dress ourselves next.

Posted by: Jenny tries too hard and also hates her phone at March 05, 2013 07:19 PM (QuOBC)

209 Bang!

Plop! (sound of dead rapist hitting the ground).


Talkative Liberals just hate short dialogues with rapists.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 05, 2013 07:19 PM (cCxiu)

210
The mediating factors in risk taking are several.

Smart people using their brains, will improve the risk/reward ratio. Meaning if you're smart, risks don't look so overwhelming because you can figure out ways to solve the intermediating aspects of risk taking. Also, smart people frequently don't take "stupid" risks.

Experience and willingness to work hard also can mitigate "risk", in starting a business, for instance. And there is Edison's aphorism; Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

Dumb people take dumb risks, and are frequently punished for them.

If you have "government power" you can also mediate your risk, because you can rig the game. Change the rules to make you "a winnah!".
People of middling intelligence and ability may gravitate toward government because it is inherently a low risk environment. Failing upwards happens a lot more often in government than in private enterprise. I give you......Joe Biden.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 05, 2013 07:19 PM (RFeQD)

211 http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3110224/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:19 PM (h4Bce)

212 I bet they figure if they can disarm the blue states by internal action, they will only have to use the military to destroy the red states. People living in the blue states wouldn't be a factor.

Posted by: Ook? at March 05, 2013 07:19 PM (OQpzc)

213 What i learned is prison is that the only way to legitimately prevent an ass rape is to shit on their dicks.

Of course if you tend to shake your booty or wear tight slacks and have a
nice looking ass which many of you men who still participate in regular physical activity do, then you were probably asking for it so lean back, breathe out, relax and
enjoy it.

Ladies, this method only works reliably for male victims. You gentler gender have only a 50-50 chance that this method can come into play butt, that doesnt mean you shouldn't practice just in case.

To test it out, simply increase your fiber intake for a few days to ensure you are regular like a chocolate smoothie, then tell your unsuspecting partner that you want some backdoor action...and just at the right moment...BAM!...RELEASE THE KRAKEN and watch that erection expire faster than a Promise from Dear Leader.


Posted by: Tony Rezko at March 05, 2013 07:20 PM (+OTLF)

214 "Dumb people take dumb risks, and are frequently punished for them."

Who are you talking about?

Posted by: Kennedys at March 05, 2013 07:20 PM (+kvQd)

215 I'm sorry you fit one of the categories that has made you hypersensitive. I'm sorry I offended you even, but you are hypersensitive if you come to AoSHQ to lecture on the travesty of rape. Of course rape isn't "funny".

Posted by: Austin Powers at March 05, 2013 07:21 PM (N2yhW)

216 211 http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3110224/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:19 PM (h4Bce)





http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2819354/

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:21 PM (GEICT)

217
i feel the same way about the death penalty, in CA recently their main argument was how expensive the appeals process was, but that's just beating around the bush

They can fix that with a law that says if anyone is sentenced to death, the sentence gets carried out within one year, no exeptions.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at March 05, 2013 07:22 PM (+z4pE)

218 Rape is never funny.

Posted by: Fleece Johnson at March 05, 2013 07:22 PM (HQgFB)

219 I see BCochran is finding all the shapely shapes to have his brain seize up over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:23 PM (h4Bce)

220 A bullet fired straight up the rectum of a rapist caught in the act, too Draconian?

Posted by: Absolute power is a plus, absolutely! at March 05, 2013 07:23 PM (I88Jc)

221
Of course rape isn't "funny".

It was the acme of humor when Sarah Palin was running for VP. Just sayin', and not calling you out, or anything.

Based on the 'honorable' scrunt's dressing down of the young rape victim...to the left, it's still not that big a deal.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 07:23 PM (eyJh9)

222 Alex the Chick, pagin Alex the Chick. Fire up the raptors

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2013 07:24 PM (Dnbau)

223 219 I see BCochran is finding all the shapely shapes to have his brain seize up over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:23 PM (h4Bce)






They're all actually by the same photog. At least the last few have been.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:24 PM (GEICT)

224 Letting Democrats use math is like giving a loaded gun to a lemur*


*I think that's a type of weasel.

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 05, 2013 07:24 PM (QupBk)

225 Btw, AP, don't you have another interview coming up soon?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:25 PM (GEICT)

226 218
Rape is never funny.

Posted by: Fleece Johnson at March 05, 2013 07:22 PM (HQgFB)

Are we talking rape rape, date rape, shit i changed my mind the next day rape, legitimate rape, or ass-plundering the other rape rape?

Posted by: Tony Rezko at March 05, 2013 07:25 PM (+OTLF)

227
[164Gun free zone my ass. It's only gun free to those who fear detection and consequence. Criminals do not have these fears. They have guns.]


Bullshit. They just needed a bigger SIGN.

Duh!

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:25 PM (c1gk/)

228 224 Letting Democrats use math is like giving a loaded gun to a lemur*


*I think that's a type of weasel.

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 05, 2013 07:24 PM (QupBk)



I was informed earlier that all animals are a type of weasel. So yes, you're correct.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:26 PM (GEICT)

229 The last year I lived in California the legislature authorized tens of millions of dollars to pay outside attorneys to file appeals for every death row inmate. Yeah, that could get expensive.

Posted by: Ook? at March 05, 2013 07:26 PM (OQpzc)

230
*I think that's a type of weasel.

** As are democrats.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 05, 2013 07:26 PM (eyJh9)

231 Thomas Jefferson, anyone convicted of a crime and sentenced to death shall be executed seven days after the verdict unless the day of execution falls on a Sunday then its carried out the following Monday.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:26 PM (h4Bce)

232 Rapists deserve a safe workplace.

Posted by: OSHA at March 05, 2013 07:27 PM (MMC8r)

233 231 Thomas Jefferson, anyone convicted of a crime and sentenced to death shall be executed seven days after the verdict unless the day of execution falls on a Sunday then its carried out the following Monday.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:26 PM (h4Bce)



Pffft. Just a dead white guy. What does he know?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:27 PM (GEICT)

234 Gotta love the "patting on your poor little head" approach by the Left.

I hate these fucking people. They'd rather see women raped and/or dead than kill an attacker with a "scary" gun.

I guess there's a drone attack in my future, and I don't give a shit.

Posted by: Babs Boxer at March 05, 2013 07:28 PM (UOM48)

235 Leftists are willing to let women be raped so they can feel good about themselves and morally/intellectually superior to others.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 05, 2013 07:28 PM (uhftQ)

236 How did it happen, that we are finally on the side of a issue which is clearly to the benefit of women? Consider since 1973, the leftists have championed abortion, single motherhood, family law which enslaved men - and emerged as the party of the modern "liberated" woman.

In the present case, we have the AR-15 being presented as the ideal defensive weapon for women, and concealed carry as the ultimate rape whistle. And the left showing itself as the party of rape before self defense. How the fuck did the leftists fall down so badly on this? And honestly I can't think of any single advocate on our side of gun rights == women's rights. The meme seems to have emerged from thin air.

Posted by: Rule #2 at March 05, 2013 07:28 PM (CypDC)

237 Oh, fuck me and my lousy sock removal.

Gah. Babs Boxer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 05, 2013 07:28 PM (UOM48)

238
I would imagine the ass-clownsin congress whoadvance that kind of specious argument travel securely with armed escorts too. what a bunch of insufferable fools.

I am firmly convinced we are seeing the calculated and coordinated effort to disarm the U.S. in preparation to reform the government.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 05, 2013 07:29 PM (zAcMD)

239 BCochran, the interview was this morning. They said typical interview was for 30 minutes. This one lasted about 50 minutes. They asked a 'hypothetical' problem and how would I troubleshoot it. My answer pretty much mirrored what actually was done. Asked if I was self-taught on items, said yes and gave examples. If I ever wrote documentation, said yes instructions for others in shop to use. Hope I did well.

I have one accidental factor in my favour. They had hired someone whom I had worked with before, a real hard working super troop who told them I was the same.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:30 PM (h4Bce)

240 So, does knowing a woman is not armed make a rape MORE or LESS likely, Democrats?

Posted by: zsasz at March 05, 2013 07:30 PM (MMC8r)

241 So the choice for Colorado coeds is go unarmed and throw yourself on the mercy of a rapist or ignore the law and shoot the bastard and throw yourself on the mercy of a judge and jury.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (MEjG8)

242 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:30 PM (h4Bce)



Awesome AP! Sounds like it went great.


If you don't mind me asking, what do you do?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (GEICT)

243 Beware rapeweasels in bananapants.

Posted by: wooga at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (jf2XR)

244 I have to object to this mischaracterization of weasels. There are many fine weasels. Wild Weasels for one

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (Dnbau)

245 Posted by: zsasz at March 05, 2013 07:30 PM (MMC8r)


Can you say "Gun Free Zone!", comrade?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (Cnqmv)

246 I listened to Amanda Collins on Beck (I know, STFU). She is an incredibly brave young woman. Exactly the type the Left hates with the heat of a white-hot sun.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (UOM48)

247 Better to face 12 than be carried by 6, that is your choice women of Colorado.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:31 PM (h4Bce)

248 240 So, does knowing a woman is not armed make a rape MORE or LESS likely, Democrats?

Posted by: zsasz at March 05, 2013 07:30 PM (MMC8r)


You can't squeeze reason from a drone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 07:32 PM (bxiXv)

249 218
Rape is never funny.

Posted by: Fleece Johnson at March 05, 2013 07:22 PM (HQgFB)

ARe you Kidding me? Rape is fucking Hilarious!Just mention the word infront of an old white conservative republican and watch the stupid hilarity that ensues, from his stupid comments to the press focusing on it absurdly for weeks on end to help their cocksucking mother fucking boyfriend stay in power and to trash the republican party...from the democrats beuilding their entire convention around it, to using it to support a war on women - women that they dont really give a shit about unless they are ugly short haired angry liberal hateful cunts and vote democrat cause the other women should be raped by a bunch of black borthers according to Sandra Bernhardt...rape is just one of the ridiculous memes that helped to reelect Barack Son of Carter Obama ... Rape is fucking COMEDY GOLD in this country.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at March 05, 2013 07:32 PM (+OTLF)

250 Alex the Chick, pagin Alex the Chick. Fire up the raptors

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2013 07:24 PM (Dnbau)



Who's getting raptor'd now?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 05, 2013 07:32 PM (Gk3SS)

251 229 sure but the question is more, even if it's expensive, should the death penalty be reserved as an option for certain crimes. that's pretty clear to me

Posted by: JDP at March 05, 2013 07:32 PM (60GaT)

252 I want a law that says to run for office in Colorado, you must be native born to Colorado

Jones,
I'm concerned for all the red states. I see the mass migration picking up steam, reds immigrating to red states to live among their own, but if not more blues fleeing the shit they created.

Every red state will need a border control of its own before long.

Posted by: Rule #2 at March 05, 2013 07:33 PM (CypDC)

253 Just so we're clear-

Armed criminals are invincible supervillian clones of Bruce Lee, Billy The Kid and Jason Borne.

Armed victims (especially women) are blind, helpless creatures with the motor skills of a drunken baby lemur who are capable only of shooting themselves in the foot if confronted.

Got it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 05, 2013 07:33 PM (X9Mnx)

254 Load girls up on big gulps..(not in NYC) so she always has to pee.. problem solved. Duh.

Posted by: Democrat at March 05, 2013 07:33 PM (DGIjM)

255 I think Progressives should be labeled for what they are.
They do not care about the individual, They care about power and ownership of collectives

a victim is a casualty to get where they want to go.
victims are expendable to their desires

Posted by: willow ette at March 05, 2013 07:34 PM (nqBYe)

256 *looks left and looks right*

Besides being a raving history nut and anime fiend... well let me backtrack compared to The Dude I am a mere piker... hhmmm what do I do? Besides almost having a blog like AllenG? Oh yeah, I have a few clues about computers and networks. Plus avid reader and possible writer.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:34 PM (h4Bce)

257 140...I'm kicking around an idea about the connection between gun control, socialism, conservatism, risk and chance.

It's about control, AtC.

Socialism survives by control, and by force.
It can't survive if people have some control over their own lives, and are not dependent on the government.

Socialism can't gain complete control...if people are armed, and can say:
"No. I don't think I'll let you force me to do that."

Liberals promote the illusion that they can eliminate risk, and protect you from bad things happening.
But it is a lie.
A lie they tell repeatedly, in different ways...in order to gain complete control over our lives.

Liberals/socialists are fuckin control freaks.
Conservatives want to be left alone.

Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2013 07:34 PM (QPnFm)

258 the Colorado legislature. I was recalling your very fine,.... tutorial, on the subject of women and the right to self defense

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2013 07:34 PM (Dnbau)

259 241

No! They can also pee on their rapists and make him angrier while not actually making themselves any safer! I tell ya, Colorado has some awesome ways of protecting women.

Posted by: Jenny tries too hard and also hates her phone at March 05, 2013 07:35 PM (QuOBC)

260 (unless they can use the victim to gain something)

Posted by: willow ette at March 05, 2013 07:35 PM (nqBYe)

261 235
Leftists are willing to let women be raped so they can feel good about
themselves and morally/intellectually superior to others.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 05, 2013 07:28 PM (uhftQ)
Rape is just another chance to abort a fetus bro.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at March 05, 2013 07:35 PM (+OTLF)

262 Thunderb>>> Wild Weasels....yeah!!!!! And Mud-movers!!!!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 05, 2013 07:35 PM (zAcMD)

263 247 At least half of those 12 may be female.

Posted by: Rule #2 at March 05, 2013 07:35 PM (CypDC)

264 The same Democrats who tell you that a woman can't use a gun to repel an attacker will go on a tirade that women shouldn't be barred from combat.

Posted by: zsasz at March 05, 2013 07:35 PM (MMC8r)

265 Learn this phrase girls: "STOP.. my bladder is full and I am not afraid to use it"

Posted by: Democrat at March 05, 2013 07:36 PM (DGIjM)

266 Besides being a raving history nut and anime fiend... well let me backtrack compared to The Dude I am a mere piker... hhmmm what do I do? Besides almost having a blog like AllenG? Oh yeah, I have a few clues about computers and networks. Plus avid reader and possible writer.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 07:34 PM (h4Bce)



I knew all of that except for the computers/networks. Well, good luck and congrats on what sounds like a kick ass interview.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2013 07:37 PM (GEICT)

267 I apologize for being cold about the victim here.


However, this example is too valuable for me to pass up. This is an actual story about a real person with whom other people can
identify. It has real power, politically. Statistics are fine in support of the other arguments and anecdotes, but
only in support. Saying "210,000 rapes" goes right by a lot of people,
but once they hear about or see a girl/woman about their age, about their
height/weight, same color hair, etc., it allows for the kind of personal
identification that makes a difference, and can actually change people's minds who are presently voting against you.


This story is the exactly the right approach politically, but it can be even more powerful if it is repeatedly stated bluntly in the plainest of words. (Look up some of the shit O'Neil said about Reagan. It was mean, plain, blunt, and effective.)


"They do not care if you are raped and they will not listen to your concerns about it."


"______ does not listen and _____ does not care." (fill in the blank with: "my opponent," "Obama," "gun grabbers," "Schumer," "Reid," this nasty bitch from CO, etc.)


"_____ is pursuing policies that will hurt people because they are unreasonable, insensible, and irresponsible. Even worse, while they are hurting people they do not listen to anyone's point of view because they don't care."


In order to dig our way out of the Obama hole,
these plain-jane messages have to be repeated like a mantra
until they bore the shit out of the high-info voter, and then keep going until it starts to make the paint peel off the walls. The leaders on the right need to get on every interview -- then completely ignore media questions, shock, horror, and outrage and just keep repeating the same mantra:


"they are hurting people because they are unreasonable, insensible,
and irresponsible. They don't listen and they don't care."


When the topic changes, stay on the message: "Your children will be slaves to runaway debt because Obama doesn't listen and Obama doesn't care."


"You lost your doctor because Democrats don't listen and they don't care."


"You can't find a job because Democrats don't listen and they don't care."

Posted by: jc at March 05, 2013 07:38 PM (i8c5b)

268 Mountaintop Coal removal is kinda rape-y.

Posted by: Ashley Judd at March 05, 2013 07:39 PM (Ph479)

269 You don't need guns to protect yourself from rape.

If you wear a T-Shirt that says "I Have Syphallis" with a picture of a pustule covered cooter underneath it, You will reduce your chance of getting raped.

Personally i have never had any problem with the unwanted attention of an actual erection...

...but I think the T-Shirt thing will work well for you weaker women.

Posted by: Moochie Antoinette Lobsterzilla Obama at March 05, 2013 07:40 PM (+OTLF)

270 Queen Alex, it would be a public service to forward saidtutorial to the idiot scrunt in the Colorado legislature

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2013 07:40 PM (Dnbau)

271
jc,
You're dead on.
I like that formulation, too.

"Your energy prices are skyrocketing because Obama won't allow drilling, but he won't listen and he doesn't care."

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:44 PM (c1gk/)

272 Every one of the Dem retards in CO can be subjected to recall petitions.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 05, 2013 07:49 PM (wYVte)

273 271

jc,
You're dead on.
I like that formulation, too.



"Your energy prices are skyrocketing because Obama won't allow drilling, but he won't listen and he doesn't care."

Posted by: Warden at March 05, 2013 07:44 PM (c1gk/)

==
Thanks. But, it isn't mine. I stole it directly from Hans Bleiker. He is a guy that travels the country teaching bureaucrats how to get the public to accept government projects.
He made a study out of how to convince people of just about anything. It always works. The only words you need to know are:
responsible, sensible reasonable, listening, and care.
With those words you can get almost anybody to either change their mind or give up the fight.

Well, guess what? It can be turned both ways.

Posted by: jc at March 05, 2013 07:49 PM (i8c5b)

274
90,176
Austin Powers/Dogfish,
You can take your ha, ha rape is funny shit and fuck off and die.
I hope you never know someone who was raped and then see how it can destroy her life. But, then you might not care.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 05, 2013 07:57 PM (PBm/l)

275 Bill O Reilly just called Colmes a liar about a dozen times. It sounds like he wants to reach over and pummel him.

heh

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2013 08:08 PM (Dnbau)

276 Conservative rape prevention: blow his fuckin' brains out.

Liberal rape prevention: look like Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at March 05, 2013 08:14 PM (erlzv)

277 Just try to take the guns from these women... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVz6d24Q52c

Posted by: Anon at March 05, 2013 08:17 PM (f+fIu)

278
@92: "That being the case, the 1972 Olympic ice hockey team could have just stayed home and not wasted the effort."

Uh, the Russians won in 1972 - hockey and basketball, for that matter.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 05, 2013 08:23 PM (FsqHK)

279 unclear that a gun a projectile weapon usable at range.


Unclear as hell...WTF?

Posted by: Jeanne of the North at March 05, 2013 08:29 PM (JE3nf)

280
Thing that would have prevented the rape?



A State Senator Evie Hudak mask . . .

Posted by: Aleac Leamas at March 05, 2013 08:33 PM (Nfpnr)

281 I'm in Hudak's district. Last fall, if I didn't get 50 mailers I got a 100 from her all talking about women's rights issues.Not a word about the economy, but boy is she all for women's rights. Then this statement to Collins;Hudak is as dumb as they come. My neighbors are even dumber. May have to move to Montana.

Posted by: aGrimm at March 06, 2013 07:59 AM (TZg2J)






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The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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